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- From: evansmp@uhura.aston.ac.uk (Mark Evans)
- Newsgroups: alt.irc
- Subject: Re: Useless Bots
- Message-ID: <1992Jul27.121146.4966@aston.ac.uk>
- Date: 27 Jul 92 12:11:46 GMT
- References: <1992Jul26.035708.8997@news.cs.brandeis.edu>
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- oren@chaos.cs.brandeis.edu (Oren Kastner) writes:
- :
- : So? How does the generation of ``random'' information should be deemed as more
- : important than pre-programmed one? Seems silly to me. For example, you /msg
- : avalon and he doesn't know who you are so he does a /whois on you. Right there
- Do you know what responds to a WHOIS?
- The local server, the one you are directly connected to, the command is
- NOT sent accross the irc net.
- : he generates traffic that a bot might NEVER do -- as you said, it only
- : generates whatever traffic it was preprogrammed to output. Also, there is less
- : overhead when considering the chance that a bot will get into a
- : ``conversation'' with someone -- as a ``human'' on IRC might.
- Odd I thought that this was the whole point of IRC, to talk to _people_.
- :
- :
- : [ -=- About Moose -=- ]
- : >Well one thing if he's not the admin at his site he might not want to attract
- : >his attention. ircII is a CPU user, and IRCII script bots are pretty much
- :
- : So you are justifying his actions by suggesting he might be running a server
- : without the cooperation of his Sys Admin? I would think that the Sys Admin's
- : support would be *VERY* important in running your own server. The only
- Running a system which chews up CPU time is a good way to get on the wrong
- side of the sys-admin.
- : already too many of those around. I'm stressing here the fact that this is
- : NOT a client that the average joe can compile and keep in his/her account
- : [resources permitting], but a server that needs extra attention and a Sys
- : Admin's approval to make it into an offical resource.
- (what extra attention? if someone can compile a client they can just as
- easily compile a server)
- In fact it was a client (ircII) which as being refered to.
- if you will think back to the original post you will discover that the
- title specificaly mentioned the ircII client program.
- :
- : >wasting a WHOLE lot of CPU because they are running all the IRCII code just to
- : >use the ircII scripting language to make a bot. If people start using
- : >up CPU time for irc, then the admin might cut it off, and let people do
- : >=REAL= work on the machines.
- :
- : This is *NOT* the point here!
- Correction this is the point.
- :
- : >Well it is a lot of their businesses because they run servers...they might
- : >not want all the traffic that bots create on there. 0Vanity channel op bots
- : >create a lot of mode traffic. And cause general problems for people.
- :
- : Wowowo, hold on a minute. When you run a server it is NO business of yours
- : how many users you have on the server and what/who they are -- UNLESS they
- : cause problems (like harassment).
- Buzzz wrong answer.
- What are K-lines and R-lines for then?
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