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- From: peterd@bunyip.com (Peter Deutsch)
- Subject: Re: index for all of gopherspace
- Message-ID: <1992Jul28.001835.8426@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca>
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- Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 00:18:35 GMT
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- In article <1992Jul27.180509.27470@mercury.unt.edu>
- billy@sol.acs.unt.edu (Billy Barron - VAX/UNIX Systems Manager) writes:
- > daniel@nstn.ns.ca (Daniel MacKay) writes:
- >
- > >Now, the WAIS thang works because all the people who run WAISs, have
- sent
- > >in to the mother of all WAISs, an abstract for each database they've
- > >published.
- > >
- > Not all. I've found quite a few WAISs that are NOT in the master
- directory.
- > This also is the biggest problem with WAIS. The directory is flat
- and getting
- > too big.
-
- I submit that the problem is that neither WAIS nor Gopher are an
- ideal tool with which to build a distributed Yellow Pages service.
- Gopher does interactive browsing well, while WAIS does large text
- indexing well. What you need is a service that does Yellow Pages well,
- which is both accessible from either service (or as an adjuct to it)
- and is able to keep an up-to-date view of the world.
-
- > >Here's the problem I'm trying to solve: I know somewhere in
- gopherspace
- > >there's a really good recipe database. But where is it?
- > >
- > I agree this is a BIG problem. I was going to bring it up at the
- Gopher
- > Developer's Conference in a couple of weeks and see what could be
- worked
- > out.
- >
- > >You send a query to the meta-database server, and it returns a
- > >list of databases. You pick one [or several- but we can't do this
- without
- > >overhauling the client] of those, and your client sends a search off
- to
- > >them.
- > >Now, why couldn't we do this with gopher?
- >
- > This could be done. Actually, I don't really care to make this a
- "user"
- > feature. It would involve some major coding and maybe a protocol
- change.
- > Just something us sysadmins use to figure out where we would like to
- place
- > links to.
-
- I don't see Yellow Pages as fitting into the Gopher paradigm as such.
- It seems that all you want is to ensure that the index of services is
- available _through_ the Gopher clients. This seems like an ideal case
- for another gateway function, similar to the one that was recently
- discussed for reaching WHOIS servers (which are after all, the White
- Pages equivalent of a services listing).
-
- Even if our particular hammer is not the right tool to hit this one
- with (and I obviously think it is) I would caution against trying to
- make every tool do everything. In this case, a well-defined and
- publicised gateway seems to make more sense here(BTW, I would make the
- same arguement for White Pages services. I definitely think the
- "gateway to WHOIS" approach is the way to go, here, rather than trying
- to extend the Gopher protocol to handle user record searches).
-
-
-
- - peterd
-