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From [e-mail] Fri Nov 08 21:55:54 1996
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From: Henry Cross <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc,comp.os.linux.networking,rec.boats
Subject: Re: Internet connection on a boat, worldwide?
Date: Thu, 31 Oct 1996 23:05:03 -0800
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Axel Boldt wrote:
>
> [e-mail] (Larry Butler) writes:
>
> > Axel Boldt <[e-mail]> wrote:
>
> > >2) If not, which speeds are possible over duplex packet radio?
> >
> > 300 baud on HF, 1200-2400 baud on VHF.
>
> Ok, does that mean that I can get a world-wide 2400 baud telnet
> connection?  That would be ideal.
>
> > Internet on long range HF radio would never happen.  Connect to your
> > ISP, if he'll let you, at 300 baud.
>
> Well, for sending and receiving email that's good enough.
> Anyone knows an ISP which would let me do this?
>
> Axel

If you've got access to the phone lines _via_ whatever why not use a
Linux box at the house as a PPP server to dial-in to and let it connect
to the ISP? That way the ISP is not involved.
--
H.Cross
[e-mail]
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From [e-mail] Fri Nov 08 21:55:56 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Rob Noordanus)
Subject: Re: New FBB for DOS????
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[e-mail] wrote:

>> Present DOS version is v5.15c i thk.  He has released a windows version
>> v.7.00a, and there IS a version due out shortly for LINUX.

>Jean Paul will release versions for Windows, Linux AND Dos.  I have no
>information on when that will occur as the programs are still being
>debugged.

When will the final Windows-version be released? I'm desperately
waiting for it...

>73,
>Dean - KE0WO

Regards, Rob
PE1OTP @ PI8HWB

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From [e-mail] Fri Nov 08 21:55:57 1996
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In <55bafe$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Bill Sohl) writes:
>
>From what I've heard from people, the complaint or fear of having
>an influx (too many) hams on HF is really based on the fact that
>such an influx, if it happens, would detract (over crowd) the typical
>ham operating periods (peak usage times) which are weekends
>and evenings.  Such fears, even if realized, still ignor the fact
>that the ham bands have a very low usage when measured
>over the 24 hour by 7 day a week total time frame.
>
>Bill Sohl  K2UNK

Such fears also ignore the fact that if there aren't enough hams, our hobby
will die out.  Our clout with the government, so necessary to retention of all
our bands, is directly a function of the number of active, give-a-darn hams.
HF is still the best way to attract new hams.

Roger J. Buffington
W6VZV
[e-mail]

USC Law School, Class of '97

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"I want to die peacefully, in my sleep, like my Grandfather."
"Not screaming, and in terror, like his passengers."
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From [e-mail] Fri Nov 08 21:55:59 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Rob Janssen)
Subject: Re: Dedicated PBBS Radio
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In <55buro$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Joel B. Black) write
s:

>Thanks in advance to all who read.  A few hams and I in my area are
>interested in setting up a 2m PBBS.  We are looking for different
>pieces/parts.  The main part (the radio) is a difficult find.  No one
>(including me) is willing to give up his/her radio for such a feat!
>At one time, I had read, on this newsgroup, a posting about a Motorola
>Micor (?) I believe.  Can anyone verify this and, if so, tell me a
>good place to purchase one.  We need a radio that has at least 50w out
>due to the remote location and the lack of packeteers in the area (we
>are trying to spark some interest).

You don't need 50w, especially in a remote location.
Your BBS will be heard by everyone, but it will not hear its users,
not exactly a useful situation.

When you want a well-working BBS system, you should set it up to use
as much power as its users, or less.  This will make the users setup
their equipment to hear your system, and that will automatically mean
you hear them.  Hearing them is normally more difficult, because many
users are competing for the channel each time your BBS ends its transmission.

With that issue out of the way, find a suitable surplus transceiver.
The Micor is probably OK (I don't know, they are not available over here).
Don't use a PLL-driven amateur transceiver, even when it is donated to
you.  It will keyup slowly, forcing you to use a lot of txdelay and
causing a lot of collisions on the channel.  Furthermore, the 50W models
usually won't stand the heat when someone starts downloading a big file
or a lot of messages.

Rob
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| AMPRnet:       [e-mail] | AX.25 BBS: PE1CHL@PI8WNO.#UTR.NLD.EU |
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From [e-mail] Fri Nov 08 21:56:00 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Glen Quarnstrom)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: HomeBrew TNC, want to Build
Date: Fri, 01 Nov 1996 19:53:27 GMT
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[e-mail]  (Carl Stevenson) wrote:

>In <54meje$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Paul C) write
s:
>>Alan Baker ([e-mail]) wrote:
>>
>>: using the NET/ROM Firmware from Software 2000
>>
>>Are they still around?  I haven't heard anything from them since they
>>threatened to sue anyone using TheNet for copyright violation some years
>>ago.
>
>Last I knew, the company was still around doing commercial projects for
>clients.
>
>The principles Ron and Mike, both hams, got so disgusted with the way
>hams around the world willingly ripped them off that they vowed to never
>write code for hams again ...  our loss, Ron and Mike were very creative
>and talented guys ...
>
>BTW ...  TheNet WAS a theft by the Germans, a reverse compile of the
>NetRom code from a NetRom ROM sent to them by WA8DED ...  I personally
>saw the sources and the comparison was totally identical ...  not a
>shred of doubt about it ...

I've seen credible statements that say otherwise.  And I seriously
doubt that G8BPQ is a direct ripoff.

>
>Also, I don't think they threatened to sue all hams ... just the Germans
>who stole the code and some blatant jerk American hams who insisted on
>distributing it and promoting it saying "Why should be pay for NetRom
>.. all ham software should be free."
>
>It was a disgrace to all of ham radio ...

These guys asked for what they got.  The program was overpriced,
support was pathetic, upgrades were WAY overpriced, and attitude was
arrogant.  The only good thing about NetRom was the excellent manual.

And yes, I bought a NetRom chip for our first node.  You couldn't even
change the callsign without paying for a new chip.  No discount for
multiple nodes, etc.

If they'd have offered realistic pricing and regular upgrades, they'd
probably have done a lot better.

Glen WB7DOW
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From [e-mail] Fri Nov 08 21:56:00 1996
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From: [e-mail] (jerry wang)
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Subject: Y-connection to mic/TNC
Date: 1 Nov 1996 21:33:08 GMT
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I use a Radio Shack HTX 212 2m radio for packet on my KPC3.
I am wondering if it is possible to connect both the KPC3 & the Mic to the
same jack via Y-connector and have both work.
I don't mean using both at the same time.
I mean if I can use either the TNC at one time, and then using the Mic for
Voice at a different time without having to pull out the mic/tnc cable and
connect the other.
Will something electrically not work?
Please post here or email your response.
Thanks
Jerry    KE6UUX

--
Jerry H. Wang
California State University Northridge
School of Engineering and Computer Science
Email: [e-mail]
Web: www.csun.edu/~hbcsc274


From [e-mail] Fri Nov 08 21:56:01 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Ask for Ron Lindon)
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Subject: ICOM IC706 Any modifications known?
Date: Fri, 01 Nov 1996 23:09:08 GMT
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please reply via email as I can only get to view these newsgroups once
every two weeks or so and I might miss a follow up.

Thanks

Ron Lindon, c/o
[e-mail]



From [e-mail] Fri Nov 08 21:56:02 1996
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From: "Ruud Kattenberg" <[e-mail]>
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Subject: PK 900 mailbox memory
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I like to increase the capacity of the internal mailbox in my PK900. Who
knows if this is possible and how to do it?

73's
Dik PA3GBH
[e-mail]


From [e-mail] Fri Nov 08 21:56:03 1996
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From: "Mitch, WA4OSR" <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Vibroplex web page up...
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The Vibroplex web page is now up at-
http://www.vibroplex.com

check it out, and give me your feedback...

thanks,
mitch
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[e-mail]                               11 Midtown Park, E.
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On 1 Nov 1996 03:44:49 GMT, "Obelisk965" <[e-mail]> wrote:



>5.     D.Watson, 2430 W.Territorial Rd., Battle Creek, MI 49015

Is a moron!  Posts a fake email address, yet places his own name &
address! Go figure!! ..more net-link scum!



In the immortal words of Dogbert:

" Perhaps, when committing your first federal crime,
it would be unwise to slap your name and address on it
and mail it to 10,000 people "


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From: Axel Boldt <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: Internet connection on a boat, worldwide?
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Henry Cross <[e-mail]> writes:

> If you've got access to the phone lines _via_ whatever why not use a
> Linux box at the house as a PPP server to dial-in to and let it connect
> to the ISP? That way the ISP is not involved.

If I had access to the phone lines, I could simply dial into my
ISP. But satellite phones seem to be too expensive.

Axel


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From: [e-mail] (Steve Childress)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Marine Message Comms
Date: Sat, 02 Nov 96 04:59:11 GMT
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For those discussing marine (or landbased) occasional or emergency message
traffic needs...

Checkout ORBCOMM - low earth orbit satellites. VHF low cost transceivers
from Panasonic and Torrey Sciences. Does packet data gatewayed to the
internet.

[e-mail]


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From: [e-mail] (Tedd Doda)
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Subject: Re: New FBB for DOS????
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In message <555lpd$[e-mail]> - [e-mail] (Craig Br
o
ad) writes:
:>
:>In article <[e-mail]>, kd6clo@radio.
org says:
:>>
:>>
:>>
:>>Does anyone know when the release of the new FBB for DOS is comming out???
:>>
:>>Heard rumors about Jean-Paul developing a new version!!!!!
:>>
:>>
:>Have heard NO rumor's at all that a new DOS version is coming out.
:>
:>Present DOS version is v5.15c i thk.  He has released a windows version
:>v.7.00a, and there IS a version due out shortly for LINUX.
:>

You may want to send a packet to Doug, ve4kv@ve4kv. He mentioned to me that
there was indeed a new DOS (ver 7) being developed.

bcnu,

Tedd Doda, CET
(Lazer Audio and Electronics/ Baden, Ont. Canada)
packet va3sed@va3sed ******* Running FBB  under Warp Connect!
e-mail [e-mail]** Running the IAK in Warp Connect!
[Team OS/2 in Canada]



From [e-mail] Fri Nov 08 21:56:09 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Ron Cole)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: Hams Need to Develop Better Technology
Date: Sat, 02 Nov 1996 12:34:08 GMT
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[e-mail] (John D. Seney, WD1V,   LeCroy T&M   800.553.2769)
wrote:

>In the last 40 years, hams have lost more than frequency. They have
>lost functional communications performance and the once cherished
>uniqueness of what only amateur wireless services could provide.

>Today, the contrast is such that someone that selects amateur radio
>as a hobby is picking inferior communications performance and capability that
>is so far behind the times its like a student picking a Commodore C64 or VIC-
20
>while his classmates are selecting Pentiums.
<SNIP>

Let me see the old technology
        1) 10 Ghz WAN, using TCP/IP at 10mbs. Carring HTTP, NNTP. SMTP.
        2) UHF Linked Radio Networks covering thousands of square miles.
        3) 1200 Mhz 2400 bps Digital Voice Radios.
        4) Mobile Satellite SSB Voice Communications.
        5) Mobile FM Video Communiucations.

Some of this technology I am installing as the next wave in personal
communications for John Doe Consumer.  But I am using it now.
Perhaps if you would take some time and investigate more than the
local 2m FM party line repeater you wold find that out their on the
edge of Ham Radio is where all the new technology is, and it is being
devloped by hams.

Ron
N5HYH








From [e-mail] Fri Nov 08 21:56:10 1996
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From: Fred <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: Attn:NH NTS/ARES
Date: Sat, 2 Nov 1996 09:11:51 -0500
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On Wed, 30 Oct 1996, Art Allen wrote:

> Date: Tue, 29 Oct 96 17:10:45 EST
> Message-ID: <37437@WA1WOK> (37437@WA1WOK)
> From: [e-mail]
> To: NTS@NHBBS
> Subject: network interruption
> Path: WA1WOK
>
> My Friends,
>
> I believe that a brief packet network interruption is immanent and
> since
> this might effect NTS and ARES ability to handle packet traffic, I'd
> like
> to make you all aware of it. Please email me if any of your officials
> desire further details.
>
> I have no packet route at this time (except for IP,
> [e-mail]).
>
> Internet artky1k.juno.com
>
> 73 and GL...Art...
>
>
>
>
Actually it would have been nice if you had included the reason for this
"brief packet network interruption" now, wouldn't it?

Just what is the reason for the comming outage and what frequencies does
it have effect on?  We all would like to know.



 Fred

Fred Peerenboom
internet: [e-mail]
Amateur Radio: ke8tq@n8acv.#day.oh.usa.noam



From [e-mail] Fri Nov 08 21:56:11 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Andreas Haffner)
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Subject: Re: Internet connection on a boat, worldwide?
Date: Sat, 02 Nov 1996 14:30:40 GMT
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Axel Boldt <[e-mail]> wrote:

>Henry Cross <[e-mail]> writes:
>
>> If you've got access to the phone lines _via_ whatever why not use a
>> Linux box at the house as a PPP server to dial-in to and let it connect
>> to the ISP? That way the ISP is not involved.
>
>If I had access to the phone lines, I could simply dial into my
>ISP. But satellite phones seem to be too expensive.
>
>Axel

One norwegian ISP promises a service in near future: transfer subscriber -->
ISP: by phone; ISP --> subscriber: by satellite (TV-equipment with some
add-on). Since the transfer volume subscriber --> ISP usually is small but the
other direction much higher, this could become a solution for remote/boat
internet access. The TV-satellite connection for a boat is on the market I
think, though quite expensive.

Andreas Haffner

---------------------------------------------
This is my own opinion!.......?.......I think
Homepage..........http://home.sn.no/~ahaffner


From [e-mail] Fri Nov 08 21:56:11 1996
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I need 120 videocipher II decoder modules, If You have one or more, let me
know,
[e-mail]
Thanks,


From [e-mail] Fri Nov 08 21:56:13 1996
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Subject: Re: Vibroplex web page up...
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"Mitch, WA4OSR" <[e-mail]> wrote:

>check it out, and give me your feedback...

My only negative comments are:

1) No pricing information. Why not? When customers go to the trouble
    of finding a website, the pricing should already be there. Why not
    put it there???

2) Why not allow customers to purchase from the website? Many people
are not as hung up on security as others. Besides, netscape 3.0 is
secure enough for most people.

Lot's of postives. Nice products (the 'best' of course!)

73

KR4AJ



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From: [e-mail] (Savaidis Prodromos)
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Subject: modem link
Date: Sat, 02 Nov 1996 16:59:38 GMT
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I suppose it is possible to use 2 full dublex VHF/UHF
with 2 modems with 4 wires (2 leased lines) and an interface
for syncronization to work as an Hayes compatible link
( I hear about this from a computer technic)
Does anyone has any idea about this?

Also I read an article about a transmiter with <GUNN> diode at
 10 GHz , is there any  receiver for this freq?
I have the theorical  part from a work for a master degree

Thanks a lot

Makis Savaidis
http://users.spark.net.gr/~savaidis





From [e-mail] Fri Nov 08 21:56:15 1996
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From: Bob Nielsen <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: TAPR + WA8DED EPROM :WHERE ???
Date: 2 Nov 1996 10:40:04 -0700
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ik8enh wrote:
>
> Hi, thanks for taking time out to read this and those that reply
> THANKS in advance.
> I am looking for a switching Eprom (for my TNC2) including T.A.P.R.
> release 1.1.8 (or newest , if exist) and WA8DED (last version) mode.
> Where I can found it ???
> See-you ,Nino
>

I believe that the Symek TNCs from Germany have a dual EPROM like that
(TF instead of WA8DED, however).  You might try to see if they can
supply you.

Bob

--
Bob Nielsen                 Internet: [e-mail]
Tucson, AZ                  AMPRnet:  [e-mail]
                            AX.25:    [e-mail]
                            http://www.primenet.com/~nielsen


From [e-mail] Fri Nov 08 21:56:16 1996
From: [e-mail] (Jeff WA4EGT)
Subject: RE: Y-connection to mic/TNC
Date: 2 Nov 96 16:22:09 -0800
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In response to what Jerry wrote (see below)

The MIC line has some DC present, to power the mic element. That DC
voltage is also biased downward by the PTT to cause the handheld to
transmit. The external mic may be wired to avoid presenting a voltage
to the mic element unless you push the PTT on the mic, in which case,
the audio from the mic may not be mixed with the TNC audio, but I
don't have that particular handheld, and speaker mic, so don't know
how they have it wired.

Ideally, they would have put in a mic switch with two poles, one to
close the PTT line, and the other to put the MIC audio into the
radio. Some of the mics with touchtone pads on them disable the mic
audio when the tones are being sent, more clever engineering to keep
voice audio from interfering with signalling audio.

You might consider building a small project box with a dpdt switch,
with two inputs, tnc and mic, and use the toggle switch to flip
between the mic and tnc. I built one of these toggle switch boxes a
few years ago, and used it until I decided to leave a tnc on the air
all the time, and got a second radio for voice. You may find that
changing frequencies (between voice repeater and packet radio freq)
is more of a hassle than it's worth, and each time you switch to the
repeater, you disappear from the packet frequency, so if you have
friends who might leave you messages in your TNC, your station will
be intermittantly accessible.

Basically, the Y-adapter sounds questionable, but some other users
may have done it with good results. Maybe they will post a message
explaining how they wired the Y-adapter, and whether or not it works
as they expected it to work.

As a licensed amateur, it is your responsibility to experiment, and
to advance the communication art, so on that basis, you should try
this, an report your results to the rest of us. Just kidding...

Have fun!!!

Jeff, WA4EGT


Jerry's original message:

"I use a Radio Shack HTX 212 2m radio for packet on my KPC3. I am
wondering if it is possible to connect both the KPC3 & the Mic to the
same jack via Y-connector and have both work. I don't mean using both
at the same time. I mean if I can use either the TNC at one time, and
then using the Mic for Voice at a different time without having to
pull out the mic/tnc cable and connect the other.

Will something electrically not work?
Please post here or email your response.
Thanks
Jerry    KE6UUX

--
Jerry H. Wang
California State University Northridge
School of Engineering and Computer Science
Email: [e-mail]
Web: www.csun.edu/~hbcsc274"


From [e-mail] Fri Nov 08 21:56:17 1996
From: [e-mail] (Jeff WA4EGT)
Subject: RE: Vibroplex web page up...
Date: 2 Nov 96 16:28:59 -0800
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Is this the vibroplex company that makes keys, bugs, cw stuff?

There doesn't appear to be anything there having to do with
vibroplex. Maybe the address resolution is fouled up, it comes with
Mobile Area Free Net.Are the domain name servers setup right to
resolve "vibroplex.com" ??

Jeff, WA4EGT
InterFlex Systems   http://www.interflex.com

-------------------------------------------------------

re your message:


The Vibroplex web page is now up at-
http://www.vibroplex.com

check it out, and give me your feedback...

thanks,
mitch
--
-------- * * * VIBROPLEX - The oldest name in ham radio! * * ---------
Felton "Mitch" Mitchell, WA4OSR                The Vibroplex Co., Inc.
[e-mail]                               11 Midtown Park, E.
334-478-8873, FAX [phone]                   Mobile, AL 36606-4141


From [e-mail] Fri Nov 08 21:56:18 1996
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Subject: Re: Hams need to Develope Better Technology
Date: 3 Nov 96 03:35:30 GMT
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 Hi,

 I really don t see that Hams need to develope better technology. We ve been
doing just fine, at least in the last ten years, with developement.

 The problem is that the majority of hams are no longer PIONEERS. And as long
as the that is the case, the PIONEERS will be outcasts, in a service that
was created primarily for the PIONEERS.

 This is the case now, and its the main reason why the general ham population
does not use all this neet stuff we PIONEERS have come up with.

 The 440 Repeater situation in the Chicagoland repeater is an example of this,
. As many note, the bands are FULL, yet there is hardly any activity. Why, be-
cause somebody put a repeater on a pair, that nobody really needed. It was an
ego thing, not a pioneering thing. They bought the stuff, and hooked it to-
gether, and it made them feel good. They didn t build the first repeater. And
so, there it sits, wasting spectrum-time-area. And, in the meantime, we don t
have 9600 baud web surfing going on by the people in ham radio who want it. So
they leave ham radio. Pioneers are outcasts, and outcasted.

 We need to give Pioneers the status, and resources they once had in Ham
Radio. Without it, there really is no reason for Ham Radio. And we might as
well all just be using HF(ALE), VHF, UHF and SHF Cellular Phones.


73, Don.

Mailbox : WB9MJN @ N9HSI.IL.USA.NA
AMPRNet : [e-mail][44.72.98.19]
Internet: [e-mail]



From [e-mail] Fri Nov 08 21:56:19 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Luis Velis)
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Subject: n3tuk web page
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Hi folks

Please visit my web page at
http://www.geocities.com/siliconvalley/heights/5575/index.html



best 73's de n3tuk



From [e-mail] Fri Nov 08 21:56:20 1996
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From: [e-mail] (James Lee)
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Subject: ELECTRONICS TIMES publisher is sick?
Date: 3 Nov 1996 09:00:20 GMT
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I got my ham license through a classroom training hosted by an open
446.650 repeater's founder KJ6TQ late 1993 at Burbank Fire Dept.
training center in Calif.  Almost a year ago KM6NP close repeater
system pop up in the same pair who claimed to be coordinated but
has been trying to conquer the pair to shutdown the KJ6TQ repeater.

Mike Mercado or KM6NP, who publishes the Electronics Times, even
installed transmitter just for the purpose of jamming KJ6TQ
operations and periodically broadcast warning to KJ6TQ repeater's
users.

Ham radio operators pride themselves in being polite.  Yeah right!
I can't believe this person whom I presumed smart is SICK.



From [e-mail] Fri Nov 08 21:56:21 1996
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From: Frederic RIBLE F1OAT <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: New FBB for DOS????
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[e-mail] wrote:

> Jean Paul will release versions for Windows, Linux AND Dos.  I have no
> information on when that will occur as the programs are still being
> debugged.

  You can have some information on the Linux version at

      http://fpac.lmi.ecp.fr

73's Frederic F1OAT.


From [e-mail] Fri Nov 08 21:56:22 1996
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From: Rolfe Tessem <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: Marine Message Comms
Date: Sun, 03 Nov 1996 09:29:39 -0400
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Steve Childress wrote:
>
> For those discussing marine (or landbased) occasional or emergency message
> traffic needs...
>
> Checkout ORBCOMM - low earth orbit satellites. VHF low cost transceivers
> from Panasonic and Torrey Sciences. Does packet data gatewayed to the
> internet.

For marine use, especially on a personal yacht, check out:

http://www.globewireless.com/yachts/yacht.htm

Rolfe
W3VH
--
Rolfe Tessem         |     Lucky Duck Productions, Inc.
[e-mail]        |     96 Morton Street
[phone]       |     New York, NY 10014


From [e-mail] Fri Nov 08 21:56:23 1996
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From: "Mitch, WA4OSR" <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: TAPR + WA8DED EPROM :WHERE ???
Date: Sun, 03 Nov 1996 08:23:53 -0600
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ik8enh wrote:
>
> Hi, thanks for taking time out to read this and those that reply
> THANKS in advance.
> I am looking for a switching Eprom (for my TNC2) including T.A.P.R.
> release 1.1.8 (or newest , if exist) and WA8DED (last version) mode.
> Where I can found it ???
> See-you ,Nino
>

i made one with a 27c512... i put 1.1.8 in the first half and WA8DED
is the second half... i pulled the high address pin (i forget which
one) out so it wouldn't plug into the socket, ran a wire from that
address pin to spdt switch, and the poles of the switch to +5 and
gnd... then a flip of the switch selects either operating system
for the tnc...

mitch
--
Felton "Mitch" Mitchell, WA4OSR [e-mail]
The Vibroplex Co., Inc., 11 Midtown Park, E., Mobile, AL 36606-4141
800-840-8873 orders, 334-478-8873 info, FAX [phone]
Visit our web site at - http://www.vibroplex.com


From [e-mail] Fri Nov 08 21:56:24 1996
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From: "Mitch, WA4OSR" <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: Vibroplex web page up...
Date: Sun, 03 Nov 1996 08:26:08 -0600
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To: Jeff WA4EGT <[e-mail]>

Jeff WA4EGT wrote:
>
> Is this the vibroplex company that makes keys, bugs, cw stuff?
>
> There doesn't appear to be anything there having to do with
> vibroplex. Maybe the address resolution is fouled up, it comes with
> Mobile Area Free Net.Are the domain name servers setup right to
> resolve "vibroplex.com" ??
>
> Jeff, WA4EGT
> InterFlex Systems   http://www.interflex.com
>

there appears to be some sort of glitch with address resolution...
a few people are getting the host maching (mobile area free net)
when attempting to get to www.vibroplex.com ... i have discussed
the problem with the sys admin, who is looking into the matter...

mitch
--
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The Vibroplex Co., Inc., 11 Midtown Park, E., Mobile, AL 36606-4141
800-840-8873 orders, 334-478-8873 info, FAX [phone]
Visit our web site at - http://www.vibroplex.com


From [e-mail] Fri Nov 08 21:56:25 1996
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I am looking into buying a GPS receiver for APRS (Automatic Packet Position
Reporting System) use. The requirements are: <300$US and must be able to be
interfaced to laptop. I am considering the Garmin 45/45xl, Magellan 3000 but
may consider other makes/models.
Any opinions, FAQs, Websites?
Thanks.
73
John KF4ERV
* John Vause  KF4ERV  [e-mail]  Powered by OS/2 Warp.       *
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From [e-mail] Fri Nov 08 21:56:26 1996
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Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: Dedicated PBBS Radio
Date: Sun, 03 Nov 1996 15:27:35 +0000
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Joel B. Black wrote:
>
> Thanks in advance to all who read.  A few hams and I in my area are
> interested in setting up a 2m PBBS.  We are looking for different
> pieces/parts.  The main part (the radio) is a difficult find.  No one
> (including me) is willing to give up his/her radio for such a feat!
> At one time, I had read, on this newsgroup, a posting about a Motorola
> Micor (?) I believe.  Can anyone verify this and, if so, tell me a
> good place to purchase one.  We need a radio that has at least 50w out
> due to the remote location and the lack of packeteers in the area (we
> are trying to spark some interest).
>
> Again, thanks for all replies and for reading this post...
>
> 73's...Joel, KS4AW


You may wnat to look for some GE MVP rigs..they can handle almost any
abuse and keep right on going..and they are also pretty cheap to get a
hold of..

Willie...KB5TES..Houston


From [e-mail] Fri Nov 08 21:56:27 1996
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From: "B. Hildebrand" <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: Advice on GPS receiver
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[e-mail] wrote in article <[e-mail]>...
> I am looking into buying a GPS receiver for APRS (Automatic Packet
Position
> Reporting System) use. The requirements are: <300$US and must be able to
be
> interfaced to laptop. I am considering the Garmin 45/45xl, Magellan 3000
but
> may consider other makes/models.
> Any opinions, FAQs, Websites?
> Thanks.
> 73
> John KF4ERV
The Garmin 45/45XL or GPS-II have external antennas that can be replaces
with an antenna that can be remoted such as the Trimble OEM miniature
antenna with built in pre-amp.  I routinely get 8 satellites at near full
scale with this setup.  The best thing about the Garmin vs. Magellan is
that the Garmin has upload and download capability.  You can download the
track file from the Garmin and plot it on a map such as DeLorme's Street
Atlas USA v3.0.  The GPS-II has the ability to mount to the car's dash, or
they have hardware to mount to a bicycle's handle bars and can be mounted
vertical or horizontal.
For shareware and GPS info check out
ftp://sundae.triumf.ca/pub/peter/index.html.
BH KH2Z


From [e-mail] Fri Nov 08 21:56:28 1996
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From: [e-mail] (DAVEYUP)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Baycom
Date: 3 Nov 1996 12:32:42 -0500
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Hia im wanting to run winpack with my baycom and ive been told i will need
a driver to get it to work.
Can anyone shed some light on this and where can i get the driver.
drop me an email.
thanks in advance.
Dave.
Little motors rev faster


From [e-mail] Fri Nov 08 21:56:28 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Patricia Barth)
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Subject: IP number in Texas
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Does anyone know who to contact about getting an IP number for packet
in Texas. I am planning to use JNOS and need one.

                                                                Thanks
                                        73's Jeff     KC5IBY
[e-mail]


From [e-mail] Fri Nov 08 21:56:30 1996
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From: "David A. Cooley" <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: KPC-3 and HTX-202 Help!!!!!
Date: Sun, 03 Nov 1996 15:45:37 -0600
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Benjamin K. Derry wrote:
>
> Hi I just bought a KPC-3 and want to hook it up to my HTX-202 HT. I
> tried four or five times with different wiring connections and it
> doen't work. The guy I got it from included a KPC-3 to Kenwood cable
> that had a correctly wired speaker wire for the HT, but the other end
> was for the kenwood. So I cut it off and rewired it after figuring out
> which colors connect to which pins. The problem is according to the
> tapr.org web site I have it wired correctly but it still doen't
> transmit anything. I can monitor but not transmit and I did figure out
> that it will transmit if the tip and the other contact on the mic plug
> contact each other(learned from experimenting). But according to the
> wiring diagram that contact isn't even used.

Ben,
From the PTT out of the TNC cable, hook a 2.2K resistor to the tip of
the mic plug... From the Xmit pin of the TNC, hook a .1uf cap to the tip
of the mic plug.  <ake sure the shell of the mic plug conects to ground
on the TNC and it should work just fine.


> And in the TNC itself there is a jumper for HT's should it be in HT
> mode or normal?

Not sure what the jumper does... it may insert the 2.2K resistance
internally...

Take care,
Dave

--
========================================================================
David Cooley                AKA N5XMT                 [e-mail]
http://www.ipass.net/~cooldave/
Sponges grow in the ocean... Wonder how deep it would be if they didn't!
========================================================================


From [e-mail] Fri Nov 08 21:56:31 1996
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From: "David A. Cooley" <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Best shareware software for TNC?
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What is the best software (Shareware) to use with a TNC... I'm using an
AEA PK-90... right now I have winpacket 5.4, but not sure if there is
something better and/or newer.
Thanks,
Dave

--
========================================================================
David Cooley                AKA N5XMT                 [e-mail]
http://www.ipass.net/~cooldave/
Sponges grow in the ocean... Wonder how deep it would be if they didn't!
========================================================================


From [e-mail] Fri Nov 08 21:56:32 1996
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This has to be bogas, the e-mail address doesn't work.

Get a jaob slick.

Jay



From [e-mail] Fri Nov 08 21:56:33 1996
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From: David Kelly <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.ham-radio.packet,rec.radio.amateur.digital,rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: Best shareware software for TNC?
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David A. Cooley wrote:
>
> What is the best software (Shareware) to use with a TNC... I'm using an
> AEA PK-90... right now I have winpacket 5.4, but not sure if there is
> something better and/or newer.

No doubt about it, Kermit is the best software to use for *any* serial
device!  :-)

But seriously, "It all depends on what you want to do." No software does
more on packet than JNOS or TNOS, unless you count Linux with native
AX.25 in the kernel. But is that what you want to do?

Seriously, I used Kermit on DOS and Unix systems, but mostly VersaTerm
PRO on Macintosh for about 10 years. Has mostly to do with the fact I
used those programs for many many other things at the same time and
couldn't see any other reason not to use 'em for packet.

Now most of my packeting is running FreeBSD (Un*x) hosting TNOS.

--
David Kelly N4HHE, [e-mail] (wk), [e-mail] (hm)
=====================================================================
The human mind ordinarily operates at only ten percent of its
capacity -- the rest is overhead for the operating system.


From [e-mail] Fri Nov 08 21:56:34 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Arden Eby)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: WANTED: Tono EXL 5000e RTTY/CW/Amtor Terminal
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I'm looking for a Tono EXL 5000e RTTY/CW/Amtor Terminal.  Will pay a
reasonable price.  Contact me at any of the e-mail or packet mail
addresses listed in my signature below or call:

(503)-761-6412

Thanks es 73 de Arden KI7FG
******************************************************************************
                                 Arden Eby
                      Internet:  [e-mail]
                  Packet Radio:  [e-mail]
     Homepage (Eby's Cyberscroll)  http://www.teleport.com/~arden/
******************************************************************************



From [e-mail] Fri Nov 08 21:56:35 1996
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From: William R Liporace <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: MAX232 / MAX232CPE Pinouts
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I am looking for the pinouts for the two chips.  The Icom CT-17 uses the
standard MAX232 chip and the chip I have is the MAX232CPE.  The are
slightly differant but both work in the interface.  I just need to know
what the differant pins are so I can brew my own!!
TNX Will KB2HUN

William Liporace KB2HUN          [e-mail]
763 Huntingdon Drive             KB2HUN @ K2TR (yccc packet cluster)
Niskayuna, NY 12309              KB2HUN @ WA2PVV (NEDA)
518-346-3804 home                518-471-2837 work



From [e-mail] Fri Nov 08 21:56:36 1996
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Andreas Haffner wrote:
>
> Axel Boldt <[e-mail]> wrote:
>
> >Henry Cross <[e-mail]> writes:
> >
> >> If you've got access to the phone lines _via_ whatever why not use a
> >> Linux box at the house as a PPP server to dial-in to and let it connect
> >> to the ISP? That way the ISP is not involved.
> >
> >If I had access to the phone lines, I could simply dial into my
> >ISP. But satellite phones seem to be too expensive.
> >
> >Axel
>
> One norwegian ISP promises a service in near future: transfer subscriber -->
> ISP: by phone; ISP --> subscriber: by satellite (TV-equipment with some
> add-on). Since the transfer volume subscriber --> ISP usually is small but t
he
> other direction much higher, this could become a solution for remote/boat
> internet access. The TV-satellite connection for a boat is on the market I
> think, though quite expensive.
>
> Andreas Haffner
>
> ---------------------------------------------
> This is my own opinion!.......?.......I think
> Homepage..........http://home.sn.no/~ahaffner

For me, weekends are easy.  When I am boating (closer to land than most)
I hook up via cellular modem connected to a flip phone.  My weekends are
free.  My problem comes when I ignore the fish and let 'em get away
'cause I'm hooked on the net.  Or let the saltwater get on the phone,
I'm still bonking myself in the head for that one.


From [e-mail] Fri Nov 08 21:56:37 1996
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From: "Thomas A. Talley" <[e-mail]>
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Subject: AX.25 Driver for WIN95/NT4
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I ask this question once in awhile..... Has anyone
developed an AX.25 Device driver for WIN95/NT4.0?

Once someone said they where working on a RAS driver.....

Just wondering

Tnx
Tom Talley KA9QPG

[e-mail]



From [e-mail] Fri Nov 08 21:56:38 1996
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From: Arthur Garabedian <[e-mail]>
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F/S General Radiotelephone MC-5 CB.  Good condition! ARTHUR KC6KUK . . .


From [e-mail] Fri Nov 08 21:56:40 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Rob Janssen)
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In <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Gl
en Quarnstrom) writes:

>>BTW ...  TheNet WAS a theft by the Germans, a reverse compile of the
>>NetRom code from a NetRom ROM sent to them by WA8DED ...  I personally
>>saw the sources and the comparison was totally identical ...  not a
>>shred of doubt about it ...

>I've seen credible statements that say otherwise.  And I seriously
>doubt that G8BPQ is a direct ripoff.

You should read more carefully.  TheNET *REALLY WAS* a disassembled/
decompiled version of NET/ROM with a few bugs fixed and a few features
added.  No doubt about that.

But *THAT DOES NOT MEAN* that all programs providing NET/ROM compatible
networking are direct ripoffs as well!  G8BPQ isn't, the NET/ROM networking
in NET and NOS isn't.  These are three different re-implementations of
the protocols specified in the NET/ROM manual, by independent programmers.

For example, I did the NET/ROM coding in NET and I can tell you I never
disassembled a NET/ROM or TheNET EPROM.
I have some TheNET "source" somewhere, but after a quick glance I decided
that it would be easier to write everything from scratch than to try to
fit those functions into another existing program that already did buffer
management and AX.25 link level (KA9Q NET).
So, I put it aside and never used it again.

The same is probably true for G8BPQ and for NOS.

>>Also, I don't think they threatened to sue all hams ... just the Germans
>>who stole the code and some blatant jerk American hams who insisted on
>>distributing it and promoting it saying "Why should be pay for NetRom
>>.. all ham software should be free."
>>
>>It was a disgrace to all of ham radio ...

>These guys asked for what they got.  The program was overpriced,
>support was pathetic, upgrades were WAY overpriced, and attitude was
>arrogant.  The only good thing about NetRom was the excellent manual.

>And yes, I bought a NetRom chip for our first node.  You couldn't even
>change the callsign without paying for a new chip.  No discount for
>multiple nodes, etc.

>If they'd have offered realistic pricing and regular upgrades, they'd
>probably have done a lot better.

That is right, it was the reason for not using NET/ROM in the local
network as well.  The SW2000 guys thought the could make a living out
of radio amateurs, but they forgot that the packet network was being
set up by people on a low budget and was rapidly evolving.
Callsigns were changing all the time, extra links were added to nodes
for testing, etc.  It simply wasn't practical to have to order an EPROM
for this each time.
It could have worked when a 'license' for a single node would have been
available, from which the owner could generate any number of EPROMs
with callsigns from a list attached to this license.

But then, the concept of using a slow Z-80 based TNC for each link with
connections to a serial matrix wasn't good anyway.  We needed a system
with fast interconnection and cheap extensibility.  So I wrote software
for use on old PC's with one or more SCC cards, and it entirely replaced
NET/ROM and TheNET in this area.
The only thing still left over from the NET/ROM era is the protocol,
and it is very far from optimal...

Rob
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From [e-mail] Fri Nov 08 21:56:40 1996
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From: "Robert Denoue (Netscape)" <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Help, some reference wanted !
Date: Mon, 04 Nov 1996 15:02:20 +0100
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Hello,

I'm interested by the relation between Internet and packet radio. Can you
give me some reference for learning about that ?

I'm a novice with packet (but not with networks nor radio nor data
processing).

I'm searching for contacts, especialy, but not only, with french people.

Some questions :
        are there some packet networks in france ?
        Is there a connection between internet and thoses network ?
        Is there a distribution list for packet ?
        What are the essential books or online documents to read for
understand 'state of the art'
        .... etc.

Thanks.
--
73, F5NMX
Robert Denoue, [e-mail]


From [e-mail] Fri Nov 08 21:56:41 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Brian Kantor)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: HomeBrew TNC, want to Build
Date: 4 Nov 1996 15:07:59 GMT
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In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] writes:
>The only thing still left over from the NET/ROM era is the protocol,
>and it is very far from optimal...

And the thousands of net/rom nodes still on the air all over the USA,
especially here on the west coast of the USA.  Most of people involved
in packet still think they're the best (or only) way to do networking.

Feh.
        - Briah


From [e-mail] Fri Nov 08 21:56:42 1996
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From: Jeff King <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: Advice on GPS receiver
Date: Mon, 04 Nov 1996 08:12:41 -0800
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[e-mail] wrote:
>
> I am looking into buying a GPS receiver for APRS (Automatic Packet Position
> Reporting System) use. The requirements are: <300$US and must be able to be
> interfaced to laptop. I am considering the Garmin 45/45xl, Magellan 3000 but
> may consider other makes/models.
> Any opinions, FAQs, Websites?
> Thanks.
> 73
> John KF4ERV
> * John Vause  KF4ERV  [e-mail]  Powered by OS/2 Warp.       *
> * Defenselessness is a crime which generates it's own punishment.   *
> * The four boxes of Freedom: Soap, Ballot, Jury, and Ammo.           *
> * Those who trade Freedom for Security have neither. - B. Franklin    *

Check out Trimble. They have a web page. I use their OEM board in
a product I make.

Jeff King wb8wka


From [e-mail] Fri Nov 08 21:56:43 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Andreas Haffner)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc,comp.os.linux.networking,rec.boats
Subject: Re: Internet connection on a boat, worldwide?
Date: Mon, 04 Nov 1996 17:32:49 GMT
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David Henley <[e-mail]> wrote:

...

>My problem comes when I ignore the fish and let 'em get away
>'cause I'm hooked on the net.  Or let the saltwater get on the phone,
>I'm still bonking myself in the head for that one.

I feel with you. Lost my quite expensive cordless phone this season in the
marina at ten foot deep  :-(((((((


Andreas Haffner

---------------------------------------------
This is my own opinion!.......?.......I think
Homepage..........http://home.sn.no/~ahaffner


From [e-mail] Fri Nov 08 21:56:44 1996
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From: [e-mail] (ik8enh)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: EPROM TNC 2
Date: Mon, 04 Nov 1996 17:41:42 GMT
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Hi, thanks for taking time out to read this and those that reply
THANKS in advance.
I am looking for a switching Eprom (for my TNC2) including T.A.P.R.
release 1.1.8 (or newest , if exist) and WA8DED (last version) mode.
Where I can found it ???
See-you ,Nino



e-mail          [e-mail]
AX.25           [e-mail]
or              IK8ENH  MR. Molaro Nino,Via R. Raiola 61
                        80053 C/mare di Stabia NA -ITALY




From [e-mail] Fri Nov 08 21:56:45 1996
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From: [e-mail] (ik8enh)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: ENCODING/DE.  DTMF  with S. Blaster
Date: Mon, 04 Nov 1996 17:41:44 GMT
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I am looking for any programming  on using a sound  blaster to encode
and decode DTMF tones.
Tks ,Nino



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AX.25           [e-mail]
or              IK8ENH  MR. Molaro Nino,Via R. Raiola 61
                        80053 C/mare di Stabia NA -ITALY




From [e-mail] Fri Nov 08 21:56:46 1996
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From: Tim Hynde <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: ELECTRONICS TIMES publisher is sick?
Date: Mon, 04 Nov 1996 13:31:25 -0500
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>James Lee wrote:

> Mike Mercado or KM6NP, who publishes the Electronics Times, even
> installed transmitter just for the purpose of jamming KJ6TQ
> operations and periodically broadcast warning to KJ6TQ repeater's
> users.
>
> Ham radio operators pride themselves in being polite.  Yeah right!

Well, there are still plenty of gentlemen operators left.

... and all that wide open space on 6m and 220 MHz ??...


From [e-mail] Fri Nov 08 21:56:47 1996
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From: Rich Abbot <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: Y-connection to mic/TNC
Date: Mon, 04 Nov 1996 13:31:37 -0500
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jerry wang wrote:
>
> to connect both the KPC3 & the Mic to the
> same jack via Y-connector and have both work.

Jerry,

A small audio switchbox is the safest way to go.

If you don't want to do the wiring yourself, then
there are two commercial sources for such a box:
MFJ has a line of switchboxes that are rig and
TNC-specific.  Check with them, or with one of
their distributors, to see if the 212 & KPC3 are
covered.  An alternative is the Ultracable from
Oak Bay, which lets you create any mic/rig/tnc
wiring combination using jumpers (or so their
documentation says).

Good luck & 73,

Rich


From [e-mail] Fri Nov 08 21:56:48 1996
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From: [e-mail]
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Subject: PCjr on Packet?
Date: Mon, 04 Nov 1996 19:51:52 GMT
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I have an old IBM PCjr that I would like to dedicate to a packet
setup.

Does anyone use a PCjr on packet?  If so, do you know where I can find
a serial cable for it.

Any advise would help.

Thanks

[e-mail]



From [e-mail] Fri Nov 08 21:56:48 1996
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From: [e-mail]
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Alinco DJ-160 prints
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Does anyone know where I can find the prints for an Alinco DJ-160T
handheld?  I think I fried mine and I want to check the prints to
make sure everything is ok.

Thanks,

Bob Ratliff
[e-mail] [Down untill repaired]
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From [e-mail] Fri Nov 08 21:56:50 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Bob Dengler)
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In <[e-mail]>, Tim Hynde <[e-mail]> writes:
>>James Lee wrote:
>
>> Mike Mercado or KM6NP, who publishes the Electronics Times, even
>> installed transmitter just for the purpose of jamming KJ6TQ
>> operations and periodically broadcast warning to KJ6TQ repeater's
>> users.
>>
>> Ham radio operators pride themselves in being polite.  Yeah right!
>
>Well, there are still plenty of gentlemen operators left.
>
>.... and all that wide open space on 6m and 220 MHz ??...

Excuse me, 'wide open space' on 222 MHz?  Then why did the last 220 SMA meetin
g
feature a hearing due to a denial of freq. coordination to a repeater on Blue
Ridge, and why were there 2 freq. coordinators on 222 MHz in So. Cal. for a
while?  The 222 MHz band may not be used as much as 2 meters, but it's stuffed

full of repeaters.  There is some room on 6m, but it's awfully noisy.

I'm not sure we can blame Mike for the mess on 446.65.  He is only a pawn of
SCRRBA, which apparently decided that the frequency shall not have an 'open'
repeater on it.  The 'warning' transmitter cites references to SCRRBA
coordination, but makes no mention of possible coordination of KJ6TQ by other
freq. coordination entities, so it is not accurate to say that any other
repeater on the freq. is uncoordinated.

Bob NO6B (KE6TZF)



From [e-mail] Fri Nov 08 21:56:50 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Martin J. Hallsworth)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc,uk.radio.amateur
Subject: Take a look at my home pages
Date: Mon, 04 Nov 96 22:49:12 GMT
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Hi,
I have just updated most of my homepages so why not take a look,
plenty of hamradio links.
let me have your URL and I will link to you as well !!

cheers martin

HTTP://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/Martin_Hallsworth

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From [e-mail] Fri Nov 08 21:56:51 1996
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From: Doug Wetzel <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: Advice on GPS receiver
Date: Mon, 04 Nov 1996 15:52:37 -0800
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APRS Sig mailing list:

[e-mail]

In your text body type:

SUBSCRIBE APRSSIG <YOUR NAME>

Everything you wanted to know about GPS/APRS available there!

73
Doug
KC7CO
Seattle APRS Coordinator


From [e-mail] Fri Nov 08 21:56:52 1996
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From [e-mail] Fri Nov 08 21:56:53 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Clemm Coulter)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: TNC SOFTWARE HELP
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Hello and tnx for any help in advance;
I am trying to locate software to use with my PacComm Spirit=2 (9600
baud packet).
I would like a DOS based software with seperate recieve, monitor and
transmit windows like the Host Master software I use with my KAMplus.
This software can only be used with a Kamtronic TNC.
Again, thanks for any help.


Clemm Coulter
AE4DM
[e-mail]



From [e-mail] Fri Nov 08 21:56:55 1996
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From: Robert Denoue <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Packet radio and Internet (a little help) - Packet radio et Internet (Qui peut m'aider?)
Date: Tue, 05 Nov 1996 10:13:24 +0100
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Hello,

I'm interested by the relation between Internet and packet radio. Can you
give me some reference for learning about that ?

I'm a novice with packet (but not with networks nor radio nor data
processing).

I'm searching for contacts, especialy, but not only, with french people.

Some interrogations :
        are there some packet networks in france ?
        Is there a connection between internet and thoses network ?
        Is there a distribution list for packet ?
        What are the essential books or online documents to read for
understand 'state of the art'
        .... etc.

Thanks.
--

-> follows this message french translation ' in case of' :

Je suis intΘressΘ par la relation entre internet et le packet radio.
Pouvez-vous m'indiquer quelques rΘfΘrences pour apprendre ce sujet.

Je suis dΘbutant dans le packet (mais pas dans les rΘseaux, ni dans la
radio, ni dans l'informatique).

Je recherche des contacts, en france particuliΦrement, mais pas
exclusivement.

Quelques points que je voudrais Θclaircir :
        y a t-il des rΘseaux packet en france ?
        y a t-il une connexion entre ces rΘseaux et internet ?
        y a t-il des listes de distribution consacrΘes au packet ?
        quels sont les ouvrages ou les documents en ligne α lire pour
dΘmarrer ?
        and so on...

Merci.

73, F5NMX
Robert Denoue, [e-mail]
ISOC member.


From [e-mail] Fri Nov 08 21:56:56 1996
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From: "DAMON L. DUPERRE" <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Classic Radio
Date: 5 Nov 1996 12:21:54 GMT
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        ARF 2001 scanning tranciever,  with factory shoppe
manual.  Excellent condition.  Will take highest offer.

      Rick Swanson [phone]


From [e-mail] Fri Nov 08 21:56:57 1996
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From: Gabe Nemeth <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: TNC Interfacing to ADI 2M and 70cm Radios
Date: Tue, 05 Nov 1996 08:53:51 -0500
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Hi and thanks for reading.
Has anyone interfaced the ADI 2M/70cm radios directly
to a 9.6Kbps TNC?. I am interested in finding out because
the ADI represents great value here in CANADA for the $$.
(Best current price is 349.00 CDN, thats about 249 USD).

Or in general. I can read schematics. So, are there general
instructions on tapping radios directly, for TNC interfacing?
It would be nice to tap the radios without adding too much
additional load to the radio circuits themselves. Has anyone
any experience in this area? What kind of coupling is recommended?

Cheers, and '73 de VE3SLJ.
Gabe.


From [e-mail] Fri Nov 08 21:56:58 1996
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From: michael@PROBLEM_WITH_YOUR_MAIL_GATEWAY_FILE (Michael R. Allen)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: lost ax25.h
Date: 5 Nov 1996 16:23:17 GMT
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For those amateurs who are also, linux users, I have a small request.
It seems that I do not have the ax25.h file neede to compile ax25-utils.
Could someone possibly send it too me by email.  Thanks.

Mike
[e-mail]



From [e-mail] Fri Nov 08 21:56:59 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Stephen Harris)
Subject: Re: Internet connection on a boat, worldwide?
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Axel Boldt ([e-mail]) wrote:
: [e-mail] (Larry Butler) writes:

: > Axel Boldt <[e-mail]> wrote:

: > >2) If not, which speeds are possible over duplex packet radio?
: >
: > 300 baud on HF, 1200-2400 baud on VHF.

: Ok, does that mean that I can get a world-wide 2400 baud telnet
: connection?  That would be ideal.

Radio has to be pretty much line of site, doesn't it?  So if you moved
out of range of any earth station, then you'd be cut off.  At my old
company I set up linux boxes onboard supertankers with UUCP connections
back to the office.  This used Inmarsat A.  Cheaper than telex, but still
expensive :-(

Our RO's used to chat to each other via radio each night if they could "see"
each other - they used to discuss Unix problems and solve them amongst
themselves without having to bother me :-)
--
                            Stephen Harris
             [e-mail]   http://www.spuddy.org/spuddy/

      The truth is the truth, and opinion just opinion.  But what is what?
  * Meeeeow ! Call  Spud the Cat on > 01268 515441 < for free Usenet access *


From [e-mail] Fri Nov 08 21:57:00 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Dick Spargur)
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Subject: Re: Just try this, it will work
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Stephen Boltinghouse ([e-mail]) wrote:

: Take five minutes to read this and it WILL change your life.
:
    Go AWAY!  This is a sleazy pyramid scheme; the only ones who profit
    are the originators.

--

    yours,
    Richard C. Spargur (Dick)
    B5/F4


From [e-mail] Fri Nov 08 21:57:01 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Pete)
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Subject: Winpack web page is MOVING and now caters for TPK users !
Date: Tue, 05 Nov 1996 23:16:39 GMT
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Hello ALL

I have moved my Winpack web page to a new location.  It previously
resided at Healey communications and it is now on Acay.

ALL files are operational including force17.zip !!  I have added a TPK
page to cater for the unexpected demand in TPK addons.

As always, FEEDBACK is welcome !  Hopefully with the help of N0MTH,
I'll be able to  add a Winpack FAQ section.  I am also considering
adding a TSTHOST or/and WinTnc page if there is enough demand and
there are enough addons available to make it worthwhile !

New page @ www.acay.com.au/~vk2yx

If anyone is experiencing problems getting to the welcome page, try
www.acay.com.au/~vk2yx/welcome.html

If you DO have problems, please e-mail me so I can let my ISP know..

Peter Illmayer
email: [e-mail]


From [e-mail] Fri Nov 08 21:57:02 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Joao Martins)
Newsgroups: rec.ham-radio.packet,rec.radio.amateur.digital,rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: Best shareware software for TNC?
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David Kelly ([e-mail]) wrote:
: David A. Cooley wrote:
: >
: > What is the best software (Shareware) to use with a TNC... I'm using an
: > AEA PK-90... right now I have winpacket 5.4, but not sure if there is
: > something better and/or newer.

: No doubt about it, Kermit is the best software to use for *any* serial
: device!  :-)

: But seriously, "It all depends on what you want to do." No software does
: more on packet than JNOS or TNOS, unless you count Linux with native
: AX.25 in the kernel. But is that what you want to do?

: Seriously, I used Kermit on DOS and Unix systems, but mostly VersaTerm
: PRO on Macintosh for about 10 years. Has mostly to do with the fact I
: used those programs for many many other things at the same time and
: couldn't see any other reason not to use 'em for packet.

: Now most of my packeting is running FreeBSD (Un*x) hosting TNOS.

: --
: David Kelly N4HHE, [e-mail] (wk), [e-mail] (hm)
: =====================================================================
: The human mind ordinarily operates at only ten percent of its
: capacity -- the rest is overhead for the operating system.


        Try Wintnc, I think it is the best one!!!

Find it @  http://members.aol.com/g7jjf/index.html


--
                                      Greetings,

                                                Joao Martins

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From [e-mail] Fri Nov 08 21:57:03 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Winton Bell)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: RE: Y-connection to mic/TNC
Date: 6 Nov 1996 04:54:04 GMT
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In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] says...

>Jerry    KE6UUX
>Email: [e-mail]
>Web: www.csun.edu/~hbcsc274"

Jerry, There is a neat digital switching solution to this, I expect the
best way to describe it in words is:-
Use a J-K flip flop in the latching mode, with resets coming in by diodes
from the PPT line such that we get logic of "either audio or data signal
can switch the state to gain output signal flow in the analog path".
The analog path can be switched by using say a 4066 I/C and the J-K FF q
and not q outputs go to the control pins of the individual channels of
audio.
I have looked at it from several logic states, and arrived at conclusion
it wouldn't allow switching to occur until the other channel had decayed
in signal levels. Hope this helps, 73 Winton at ZL3AO.




From [e-mail] Fri Nov 08 21:57:04 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Jimmy Navarro)
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Subject: Re: ELECTRONICS TIMES publisher is sick?
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I leave in Eagle Rock and always used the MARS repeater using high
power mobile rig.  Lately I can't even make a call.  You people are the
ones who are suppose to go to 222 MHz because those people got their
first. I too got intimimated with that QST, gave a call to one of MARS
people, it's phony.  I wouldn't even give a damn to SCARA or whoever in
that Santiago Peak group.  Oh well, Mr. Dengler, KE6TZF is Sunset Ridge
Repeater group.  You're one of those people jamming.  I was wondering
may be you people are getting a lot high power RF's being radiated
right in your head like those guys at 147.435?  If you've been using
MARS 446.650, would this mess will make you happy?  I should say 73 but
don't which is appropriate this time.  May be KJ6TQ would no better...
 (=:
:DE KE6FPK
In article <55lmo4$[e-mail]>, [e-mail]
says...
>
>In <[e-mail]>, Tim Hynde <[e-mail]> writes:
>>>James Lee wrote:
>>
>>> Mike Mercado or KM6NP, who publishes the Electronics Times, even
>>> installed transmitter just for the purpose of jamming KJ6TQ
>>> operations and periodically broadcast warning to KJ6TQ repeater's
>>> users.
>>>
>>> Ham radio operators pride themselves in being polite.  Yeah right!
>>
>>Well, there are still plenty of gentlemen operators left.
>>
>>.... and all that wide open space on 6m and 220 MHz ??...
>
>Excuse me, 'wide open space' on 222 MHz?  Then why did the last 220
SMA meeting
>feature a hearing due to a denial of freq. coordination to a repeater
on Blue
>Ridge, and why were there 2 freq. coordinators on 222 MHz in So. Cal.
for a
>while?  The 222 MHz band may not be used as much as 2 meters, but it's
stuffed
>full of repeaters.  There is some room on 6m, but it's awfully noisy.
>
>I'm not sure we can blame Mike for the mess on 446.65.  He is only a
pawn of
>SCRRBA, which apparently decided that the frequency shall not have an
'open'
>repeater on it.  The 'warning' transmitter cites references to SCRRBA
>coordination, but makes no mention of possible coordination of KJ6TQ
by other
>freq. coordination entities, so it is not accurate to say that any
other
>repeater on the freq. is uncoordinated.
>
>Bob NO6B (KE6TZF)
>
-------------------------------------------------------------------
KE6TZF      SUNSET RIDGE REPEATER GROUP             LIC ISU 15-MAY-1995
CLUB        P. O. BOX 412                           LIC EXP 15-MAY-2005
            WALNUT               CA  91788-0412     LST UPD 15-MAY-1995
NO6B        DENGLER, ROBERT J                        IS RESPONSIBLE

NO6B               DENGLER, ROBERT J                LIC ISU 27-OCT-1987
EXTRA              10946 KANE AVE                   LIC EXP 27-OCT-1997
DOB  4-JUL-1963    WHITTIER             CA  90604   LST UPD 27-OCT-1987
                   (PREVIOUSLY WA6ZGQ, ADVANCED)



From [e-mail] Fri Nov 08 21:57:05 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Darren)
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Subject: Live Radio To Your Desktop - 100% FREE!
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From [e-mail] Fri Nov 08 21:57:06 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Rob Janssen)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: HomeBrew TNC, want to Build
Date: Wed, 6 Nov 1996 12:04:40 GMT
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In <55l0sf$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Brian Kantor) writes:

>In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] writes:
>>The only thing still left over from the NET/ROM era is the protocol,
>>and it is very far from optimal...

>And the thousands of net/rom nodes still on the air all over the USA,
>especially here on the west coast of the USA.  Most of people involved
>in packet still think they're the best (or only) way to do networking.

You quoted out of context.  I was discussing the situation over here.

Rob
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From [e-mail] Fri Nov 08 21:57:07 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Marcin Skubiszewski)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Beginner's question: where can I get info about packet radio ?
Date: 6 Nov 1996 13:28:13 GMT
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The subject says it all. I am a newly-licenced ham, and would like to
try out packet radio.

                                                Marcin, F8AQR.



From [e-mail] Fri Nov 08 21:57:08 1996
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From: [e-mail] (root)
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Subject: Re: Internet connection on a boat, worldwide?
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In article <55p8hf$[e-mail]>, Bob Hauck <[e-mail]> wrote:
>In article <[e-mail]>,
>       [e-mail] (Stephen Harris) writes:
>
>: [e-mail] (Larry Butler) writes:
>
>: > Axel Boldt <[e-mail]> wrote:
>
>: > >2) If not, which speeds are possible over duplex packet radio?

Point:  packet radio is simplex!

>: > 300 baud on HF, 1200-2400 baud on VHF.

9600 baud on VHF/UHF.

>: Ok, does that mean that I can get a world-wide 2400 baud telnet
>: connection?  That would be ideal.
>
>> Radio has to be pretty much line of site, doesn't it?  So if you moved
>
>Only at VHF and above.  HF signals can reflect from the upper
>atmosphere and "skip" around the world.  This works especially
>well over ocean paths.  OTOH, there isn't a great deal of bandwidth
>at HF, and there's a lot of interference and fading, so data rates
>are low.  Also, the required antennas grow larger at the lower
>frequencies, which could be an issue on a small boat.
>
>Amateur radio operators have been using teletype and tacket over
>HF for years.  The equipment is relatively cheap.  As the previous
>poster said, the data rates aren't anything to get excited about,
>but are still quite a bit greater than 0 <g>.  You must be licensed
>of course, and the Ham bands can't be used for commercial traffic.
>But this is a viable solution for non-commercial use.


1200 baud PSK has been successfully run on 10 meters between
continents.  The LEOS (low earth orbiting satelites) run at least 1200
baud, the other satelites can run higher.

OTOH, I can't remember liking a 1200 baud connection, even when 2400
baud was the best available (I was recently reminded of it with some
cellular modem tests).  If the poster is serious, he'll need alot of
scripting and crontab work to get anything useful, on-line will suck.
--
"...linux gives me a woody"   =-ddt->


From [e-mail] Fri Nov 08 21:57:09 1996
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Subject: Need SYSOP advice
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I'm trying to hard-wire two nodes together. One is a Paccom tiny2 and
the other is an MFJ1270b.
can anyone offer a wiring diagram for the RS232 port to port cable?
Any advice on parms with X1J4 would be aprreciated also.

73's de KD4CDX


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DESPERATELY SEEKING , SCIENCE+MECHANICS,RADIO TV  EXPERIMENTER
MAGAZINES FROM EARLY60's and LATE FIFTIES-jerry Pulice [e-mail]



From [e-mail] Fri Nov 08 21:57:11 1996
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From: James W. Barr <[e-mail]>
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In rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc David A. Cooley <[e-mail]> wrote:
: What is the best software (Shareware) to use with a TNC... I'm using an
: AEA PK-90... right now I have winpacket 5.4, but not sure if there is
: something better and/or newer.
: Thanks,
: Dave

I have been VERY happy with WinTNC.  The only problem is that it does use
KISS mode so my built-in mailbox in my MFJ TNC becomes useless.  Lately, I
have been using a GREAT program called PacketPET for Windows.  It has a
TON of nicely integrated features, and uses the native mode of yout TNC.
I have been leaving my radio and TNC on 24 hours per day with my TNC
mailbox enabled, and it has been working great.

Of course, I just got a used spare 386 PS/2 PC onto which I'm installing
jNOS.  As soon as that is set up to my liking, I'll switch to that as my
24 hour system.

Good luck!

p.s.  I can't seem to get TNOS to work with my PS/2.  I have loaded both
the most recent versions of the DPMI memory manager and the most recent
versions of tNOS, and my system locks with a "Stack Overflow" error.  Back
to using old-reliable jNOS!

: --
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From [e-mail] Fri Nov 08 21:57:12 1996
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From: David Henley <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc,comp.os.linux.networking,rec.boats
Subject: Re: Internet connection on a boat, worldwide?
Date: Wed, 06 Nov 1996 12:00:37 -0500
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root wrote:
>
> In article <55p8hf$[e-mail]>, Bob Hauck <[e-mail]> wrote
:
> >In article <[e-mail]>,
> >       [e-mail] (Stephen Harris) writes:
> >
> >: [e-mail] (Larry Butler) writes:
> >
> >: > Axel Boldt <[e-mail]> wrote:
> >
> >: > >2) If not, which speeds are possible over duplex packet radio?
>
> Point:  packet radio is simplex!
>
> >: > 300 baud on HF, 1200-2400 baud on VHF.
>
> 9600 baud on VHF/UHF.
>
> >: Ok, does that mean that I can get a world-wide 2400 baud telnet
> >: connection?  That would be ideal.
> >
> >> Radio has to be pretty much line of site, doesn't it?  So if you moved
> >
> >Only at VHF and above.  HF signals can reflect from the upper
> >atmosphere and "skip" around the world.  This works especially
> >well over ocean paths.  OTOH, there isn't a great deal of bandwidth
> >at HF, and there's a lot of interference and fading, so data rates
> >are low.  Also, the required antennas grow larger at the lower
> >frequencies, which could be an issue on a small boat.
> >
> >Amateur radio operators have been using teletype and tacket over
> >HF for years.  The equipment is relatively cheap.  As the previous
> >poster said, the data rates aren't anything to get excited about,
> >but are still quite a bit greater than 0 <g>.  You must be licensed
> >of course, and the Ham bands can't be used for commercial traffic.
> >But this is a viable solution for non-commercial use.
>
> 1200 baud PSK has been successfully run on 10 meters between
> continents.  The LEOS (low earth orbiting satelites) run at least 1200
> baud, the other satelites can run higher.
>
> OTOH, I can't remember liking a 1200 baud connection, even when 2400
> baud was the best available (I was recently reminded of it with some
> cellular modem tests).  If the poster is serious, he'll need alot of
> scripting and crontab work to get anything useful, on-line will suck.
> --
> "...linux gives me a woody"   =-ddt->

Anything less than 14.4 really sucks nowadays!


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From: Axel Boldt <[e-mail]>
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[e-mail] (root) writes:

> 1200 baud PSK has been successfully run on 10 meters between
> continents.  The LEOS (low earth orbiting satelites) run at least 1200
> baud, the other satelites can run higher.
>
> OTOH, I can't remember liking a 1200 baud connection, even when 2400
> baud was the best available (I was recently reminded of it with some
> cellular modem tests).  If the poster is serious, he'll need alot of
> scripting and crontab work to get anything useful, on-line will suck.

The original poster, being me, is serious, so tell me more. What's
PSK? It uses LEOSs I suppose? Do you have to be licensed? Price? What
type of equipment do you need? Can you connect to the internet (telnet
and/or email)? What kind of scripting do you mean? Where to start?

Thanks,
  Axel

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From [e-mail] Fri Nov 08 21:57:15 1996
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From: Dave Booth <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: Take a look at my home pages
Date: Wed, 06 Nov 1996 09:53:25 -0800
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Martin J. Hallsworth wrote:
I'll go and check it out!!!!

http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/5860/
Dave booth kc6wfs






>

> Hi,
> I have just updated most of my homepages so why not take a look,
> plenty of hamradio links.
> let me have your URL and I will link to you as well !!
>
> cheers martin
>
> HTTP://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/Martin_Hallsworth
>
>    ____  ____                   ____  __    ____        ____
>   "   /     /       /  ____    /   /   /   /   / /   / /   /
>      /    _/    ___/  /___/   /  _    /   /  _   \_ / /
>     /      )   /  /  /       /   /   /   /   /     / /
>    /     _/   /__/  /___/   /___/ __/__ /___/     / /___/
>
>       With Ham Radio I learn something new each day !
>
> ==============================================================
> |                                                            |
> | HTTP://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/Martin_Hallsworth |
> |                                                            |
> |             Mailto:[e-mail]              |
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> ==============================================================

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From [e-mail] Fri Nov 08 21:57:16 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Steven Breen)
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Subject: Ham Radio Windows Icons Available
Date: Wed, 06 Nov 1996 21:34:37 GMT
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Hi All

I have a few original ham radio orientated icons available for
download and personal use from my home pages at....

http://homepages.enterprise.net/srb/icons.html

73 de Steve (G7HZQ)

email [e-mail]
ax25  G7HZQ @ GB7ZPU.#21.GBR.EU


From [e-mail] Fri Nov 08 21:57:17 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Dean Woodward)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc,comp.os.linux.networking,rec.boats
Subject: Re: Internet connection on a boat, worldwide?
Date: 6 Nov 1996 22:08:28 GMT
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In article <557o3q$[e-mail]>,
Larry Butler <[e-mail]> wrote:
>Axel Boldt <[e-mail]> wrote:
>
>Internet on long range HF radio would never happen.  Connect to your
>ISP, if he'll let you, at 300 baud.  This would be ideal HF
>conditions, no noise.  Your favorite home page MIGHT download in a
>day.  No way, Jose.
>
>>4) Or would private radio hobbyists forward your traffic to your ISP?
>
>Ham radio operators have a worldwide packet radio BBS system that can
>be accessed from ANY boat equipped with a licensed ham radio operator
>and an HF ham radio station.  There are several frequencies on the
>different HF ham bands that allow user access via HF.  Many systems
>are used STRICTLY for mail forwarding.  This system is the very
>simplest of bbs email and is only connected to other ham radio
>stations, not the internet.  Internet's HUGE load of data would swamp
>the HF system to make it totally useless.

If all he needs/wants to do is download e-mail and usenet,
I don't see why not.  I will admit that any graphical interface
would be pretty much a write-off, except maybe some web pages with
images turned off.

FWIW, Left to my own options, I'd load the Linux box into a healthy
laptop and take it with me.  Let it run UUCP to get mail/news over HF.
<shrug> I never got into the WWW anyway.  I'm writing this connected
(via PC PLUS) to a Un*x box.  Shell access only.  No SLIP, no PPP,
no graphical interface.  It's fast, easy, and cheap (Hour/day for $5/month).
If I need the WWW, I can run Lynx (text-based browser) and guess at
the images, though mostly when I'm browsing I'm looking for something
technical.  I never see the junk on Yahoo and other popular sites,
and usually get my info faster because I don't have to wait for an
image to download every screen.

Sorry, I digress...

>As another note, Bob Bruninga WB4APR at the US Naval Academy, has
>invented a fantastic packet radio GPS reporting system in use by Navy
>ships and ham radio operators worldwide.  A special GPS compatible
>firmware is installed in the boat mounted packet modem (They are only
>$100) which transmits the GPS data to anyone who can monitor them with
>Bob's program (APRS, it's called).  The program, and packet radio,
>work great on HF and VHF radio.  I can track the Naval Academy's
>sailing vessels and other craft from here in Charleston, SC almost
>anytime.  The program displays ship speed, position, type, name,
>direction of travel and is capable of keyboard to keyboard
>communications between stations.  It also has an amazingly good
>broadcasting function which allows any station using the PC program to
>enter system-wide announcements and bulletins to all stations.  The
>receiving stations' programs have special windows where these are
>stored and displayed.  Now, wouldn't this be a neat way of reading
>NOTAMs?
>
>It's a pity APRS has not been implemented by the government
>bureaucracy for the safety aspect of having an aircraft type beacon
>system in the marine environment.  Any station not reporting in every
>X minutes automatically could trigger an alarm.  Emergency
>communcations is already built into the system.  Shame it's not on
>YOUR boat.

Much as I hate the gov't holding my hand, if some sort of system were
in place where an alarm went off if I stopped xmitting, I'd get one.
(I said I don't want the gov't to hold my hand- didn't say I don't
want them to come running when I yell!)

--
Dean Woodward    =o&o  |  I try to take days one at a time, but
[e-mail]  |    sometimes several days attack me at once.
'85 FJ1100             |


From [e-mail] Fri Nov 08 21:57:18 1996
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From: Sander en of Luise <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: ENCODING/DE.  DTMF  with S. Blaster
Date: Wed, 06 Nov 1996 21:30:41 -0800
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ik8enh wrote:
>
> I am looking for any programming  on using a sound  blaster to encode
> and decode DTMF tones.

Hello Nino,

Have you already tried AltaVista with a query 'dtmf NEAR soundblaster'? That g
ives 12 results.

http://altavista.digital.com/cgi-bin/query?pg=aq&what=web&fmt=.&q=dtmf+NEAR+so
undblaster&r=&d0=&d1=

Good luck.

Sander

> Tks ,Nino
>
> e-mail          [e-mail]
> AX.25           [e-mail]
> or              IK8ENH  MR. Molaro Nino,Via R. Raiola 61
>                         80053 C/mare di Stabia NA -ITALY
>


From [e-mail] Fri Nov 08 21:57:19 1996
From: [e-mail] (Chris Sussmann N1UOC)
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On 5 Nov 1996 23:26:08 GMT, [e-mail] (Joao Martins) wrote:

>David Kelly ([e-mail]) wrote:
>: David A. Cooley wrote:
>: >
>: > What is the best software (Shareware) to use with a TNC... I'm using an
>: > AEA PK-90... right now I have winpacket 5.4, but not sure if there is
>: > something better and/or newer.
>
>
>: But seriously, "It all depends on what you want to do." No software does
>: more on packet than JNOS or TNOS, unless you count Linux with native
>: AX.25 in the kernel.

I agree, the things you can do with Nos are worth the grey hair!!

Chris
N1UOC



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Damned lawyers  - Typical attitude. I doubt that his  livelihood depends on a
few crummy dollars a year from the wireheads (ARRL/SBE).  He'd be much better
off just ignoring a few comments in a newletter with a tiny circulation.

[e-mail]

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From [e-mail] Fri Nov 08 21:57:21 1996
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From: David Cooley <[e-mail]>
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Subject: TNC EPROMS
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I hope this isn't a dumb question, but here goes...
I have an AEA PK-90 and I am wondering if the code in EPROM is generic
across all T.A.P.R. TNC-2 units, or if they are unit specific.
If they are generic, or if there is an upgrade for the pk-90 any
pointers and advice will be welcome.
Thanks,
Dave

--
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L. M. Rappaport wrote:
>
> [e-mail] (.) wrote (with possible editing):
>
> >In article <01bb739f.8e9f00c0$[e-mail]>,
> >   "James S. Kaplan" <[e-mail]> wrote:
> >>ARRL lawyer to sue member
> >>
> >>The following is a copy of a message I received today from
> >>ARRL General Counsel Christopher D. Imlay N3AKD:
> >>
> >>
> >>To:       James S. Kaplan, KG7FU
> >>Copies:   Mary Lou Brown, NM7N
> >>          Terry Baun
> >>          John Poray
> >>Date:     July 16, 1996
> >>Re:       Your article, SBE Chapter 124 Newsletter, July, 1996
> >>**************************************************************
> >>
> >>     Jim, I have just finished reading your article in the July,
> >>1996 Water Cooled Newsletter, page 6. In it, you argue that two of
> >>my clients, the American Radio Relay League, Inc. and the Society
> >>of Broadcast Engineers, Inc. should cooperate in certain government
> >>relations projects, specifically spectrum protection. You note that
> >>I serve as the General Counsel for both organizations. You then
> >>jump from that argument to the following, which I quote:
> >>
> >>     If Mr. Imlay can't resolve HIS OWN conflicts of interest,
> >>     perhaps both ARRL and SBE should be seeking more
> >>     effective counsel. No offense Chris, but we have work to
> >>     do. We should not only be sending a message to the FCC
> >>     and Congress, but to other radio industries.
> >>
> >>                              (emphasis in original)
> >>
> >>It is not useful for me to educate you on the subject of your
> >>article to correct the errors in it, and I do not intend to do so.
> >>What I do intend, however, is for you to print a retraction, in
> >>unambiguous terms, in a form acceptable to me, and to furnish to
> >>me, in writing, an assurance that such will be printed in the next
> >>Chapter Newsletter for Chapter 124. Failing that, I am going to sue
> >>you in the District of Columbia for libel.
> >>
> >>     I have no intention of allowing you to falsely allege that I
> >>have a conflict of interest in representing two of my best clients,
> >>especially in an SBE publication. You are not entitled to damage my
> >>reputation as a lawyer, which you have done in your article, or to
> >>infer (without any basis at all) that I have violated the canons of
> >>ethics governing attorneys, by which I govern my actions.
> >>
> >>     I will await your response.
> >>
> >>Chris Imlay, N3AKD
> >>
> >Great response! People need to express their thoughts and opinions without
the threat
> >of legal action!
> >
> >Dave
> >[e-mail]


I noticed that Chris did not include his email so we could write to him
with a few opinions!

Kent, NI9U


From [e-mail] Fri Nov 08 21:57:23 1996
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From: [e-mail]
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Date: 7 Nov 1996 14:55:29 GMT
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In <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (L. M. Rappaport) writes:
>
>Imagine that - a lawyer concerned about his reputation!  As if they
>had any.  Give him a break, Imlay - get a life.
>
>L. M. Rappaport
>

Alas, it is arrogance of that sort that gives the profession a bad name among
the public.  Pretty unfortunate.

Roger J. Buffington
W6VZV
[e-mail]

USC Law School, Class of '97

--------------------------------------------------
"I want to die peacefully, in my sleep, like my Grandfather."
"Not screaming, and in terror, like his passengers."
--------------------------------------------------



From [e-mail] Fri Nov 08 21:57:24 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Michael L. Ardai)
Subject: Re: ARRL lawyer to sue member
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
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In article <[e-mail]> Kent Winrich <[e-mail]> writes:
[Revival of this old blather...]

-I noticed that Chris did not include his email so we could write to him
-with a few opinions!

I don't know why someone just brought this thread back; it made the rounds
back in the summer (and I thought got bashed to death...)

Try calling the League; I'm sure they have Chris's address.  It might be
[e-mail], but I haven't tried that one.
/mike



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From [e-mail] Fri Nov 08 21:57:25 1996
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From: [e-mail]
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Error Correction Coding for 56KB modems
Date: 7 Nov 1996 17:03:19 GMT
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WA4DSY/PacComm 56KB modem users who want to play with
Error Correction Coding AKA Forward Error Correction
can download a binary EPROM image from my home page
to replace the EPROM in your 56KB modem.  The
replacement EPROM adds 1 parity bit for every 2 data
bits which reduces the maximum through-put to 37.3 KB.
However, the modem can operate with signal levels
3 db lower than the uncoded version and is
pretty much immune to impulse noise from sources such as
power line static and radar noise. Three stations
in the Atlanta GA area have been using this beta EPROM
for about a week with good results.  Your mileage may vary.

http://www.wa4dsy.radio.org


Dale Heatherington WA4DSY




From [e-mail] Fri Nov 08 21:57:26 1996
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From: Geoff Storchan <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: IP Number
Date: Thu, 07 Nov 1996 09:31:04 -0800
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Does anyone know of a datbase on the internet where I can llok up IP
numbers?? I applied for a number a few months ago but never received
anything in my bbs mailbox about it. Yet last weekend my friend was
looking through some datbase and found my number. I would like to know
how to reach it or maybe you can reach it and will doublecheck for me and
see if my IP number is in there. Thanks a lot!!!

73 es vy good DX,

Geoff KB8UUM



From [e-mail] Fri Nov 08 21:57:27 1996
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From: Bob Nielsen <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: HomeBrew TNC, want to Build
Date: 7 Nov 1996 14:08:02 -0700
Organization: Lack Thereof
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Rob Janssen wrote:
>
> In <55l0sf$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Brian Kantor) writes:
>
> >In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] writes:
> >>The only thing still left over from the NET/ROM era is the protocol,
> >>and it is very far from optimal...
>
> >And the thousands of net/rom nodes still on the air all over the USA,
> >especially here on the west coast of the USA.  Most of people involved
> >in packet still think they're the best (or only) way to do networking.
>
> You quoted out of context.  I was discussing the situation over here.

You are both correct.  It is far from optimal; it is still widely used
(at least in the U.S.A.) and many people (I hesitate to say most, but
Brian is probably correct) think it the best or only way to network.

Bob

--
Bob Nielsen                 Internet: [e-mail]
Tucson, AZ                  AMPRnet:  [e-mail]
                            AX.25:    [e-mail]
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From [e-mail] Fri Nov 08 21:57:28 1996
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From: Axel Boldt <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: Internet connection on a boat, worldwide?
Date: 07 Nov 1996 13:17:38 -0800
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[e-mail] (Dean Woodward) writes:

> FWIW, Left to my own options, I'd load the Linux box into a healthy
> laptop and take it with me.  Let it run UUCP to get mail/news over HF.

Sounds pretty good to me (we were intending to have Linux boxes on the
boat anyway). Is anybody doing this UUCP over HF thingy? How to go
about it?

Thanks,
  Axel


From [e-mail] Fri Nov 08 21:57:28 1996
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Geoff Storchan wrote:
>
> Does anyone know of a datbase on the internet where I can llok up IP
> numbers?? I applied for a number a few months ago but never received
> anything in my bbs mailbox about it. Yet last weekend my friend was
> looking through some datbase and found my number. I would like to know
> how to reach it or maybe you can reach it and will doublecheck for me and
> see if my IP number is in there. Thanks a lot!!!
>
> 73 es vy good DX,
>
> Geoff KB8UUM

There is a database at ftp.ucsd.edu in /hamradio/packet/ampr.org.
Entries will only show up there if you or someone else put them in.

You are on that list:  44.102.16.75

Bob

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Tucson, AZ                  AMPRnet:  [e-mail]
                            AX.25:    [e-mail]
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From [e-mail] Fri Nov 08 21:57:29 1996
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From: Joesph Fenn <[e-mail]>
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Subject: dual addressing
Date: Thu, 7 Nov 1996 13:41:34 -1000
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Anybody know how to send 1 msg text on packet but with 2 or more
callsines in the address??   I know that certain software drivers
such as mysys (AA4RE) can do it okay, but guess theres no way to
do it with my Commodore 128 and german Digicom V5 software.
Tnx in advance if any answers available.
                Joe KH6JF




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From [e-mail] Fri Nov 08 21:57:30 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Rudi Logghe)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Vanessa Card?
Date: Fri, 08 Nov 1996 00:16:21 GMT
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Hello,

Does someone have more information or links to webpages about the
Vanessa (plugin?) card?

Tnx in advance!


---
Rudi Logghe, ON1JL
http://www.club.innet.be/members/year2138/



From [e-mail] Fri Nov 08 21:57:31 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Rudi Logghe)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: (x)net, where can I find it?
Date: Fri, 08 Nov 1996 00:18:27 GMT
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Hello,

Where can I find the excellent (x)net software on the net? I've
recently got a copy of a friend, but I'm also looking if there are
newer versions available. I'm especially looking for the PC-net
version with the ip-router included.

Thanks in advance!



---
Rudi Logghe, ON1JL
http://www.club.innet.be/members/year2138/



From [e-mail] Fri Nov 08 21:57:32 1996
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From: [e-mail]
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Dovetron RTTY help???
Date: 8 Nov 1996 03:39:23 GMT
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I've recently been given a "Dovetron Regenerative RTTY Terminal Unit". Can
anyonr tell me anything about this unit, or even better, does anyone have
a manual for this. I'm looking to use it as a RTTY reader and any info
would be appreciated.
Tnx and 73, Ken


From [e-mail] Fri Nov 08 21:57:33 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Gary Coffman)
Subject: Re: Hams Need to Develop Better Technology
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail] (Gary Coffman)
Organization: Destructive Testing Systems
References: <[e-mail]> <55fihr$[e-mail]>
Date: Fri, 8 Nov 1996 04:19:42 GMT
Lines: 48

In article <55fihr$[e-mail]> [e-mail] writes:
>[e-mail] (John D. Seney, WD1V,   LeCroy T&M   800.553.2769)
>wrote:
>>In the last 40 years, hams have lost more than frequency. They have
>>lost functional communications performance and the once cherished
>>uniqueness of what only amateur wireless services could provide.
>
>>Today, the contrast is such that someone that selects amateur radio
>>as a hobby is picking inferior communications performance and capability tha
t
>>is so far behind the times its like a student picking a Commodore C64 or VIC
-20
>>while his classmates are selecting Pentiums.
><SNIP>
>
>Let me see the old technology
>       1) 10 Ghz WAN, using TCP/IP at 10mbs. Carring HTTP, NNTP. SMTP.
>       2) UHF Linked Radio Networks covering thousands of square miles.
>       3) 1200 Mhz 2400 bps Digital Voice Radios.
>       4) Mobile Satellite SSB Voice Communications.
>       5) Mobile FM Video Communiucations.
>
>Some of this technology I am installing as the next wave in personal
>communications for John Doe Consumer.  But I am using it now.
>Perhaps if you would take some time and investigate more than the
>local 2m FM party line repeater you wold find that out their on the
>edge of Ham Radio is where all the new technology is, and it is being
>devloped by hams.

But does any of that stuff beep? "Real" hams beep, shoot skip,
and work "DEE-X". "Real" hams have no use for stuff that they
can't copy by ear and send by hand. Any "real" ham will tell you
that developments only come from giant multinational corporations.

"Real" hams are too stupid to advance the art, assume everyone else
is too, and sneer at the idea of "snapping chips into sockets". If
it doesn't glow in the dark, or can't be scavenged from a 1950s TV
set, then it isn't fit for a "real" ham to touch. After all, some
third world person might not have it, and woe be unto us if we
don't drag our fellows down to the lowest common denominator.

Somehow, I don't think you're a "real" ham. Too bad there aren't
more like you in amateur radio.

Gary
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es
534 Shannon Way             |    Guaranteed!      | Email to [e-mail]
Lawrenceville, GA 30244     |                     |


From [e-mail] Fri Nov 08 21:57:34 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Joerg Krause)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Q: Manchester Modem from S53MV
Date: 8 Nov 1996 13:34:18 GMT
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hallo,

is there anybody who had ( or will do ) try the high speed modems from S53MV ?

Who dont know what I mean can lock at http://lois.kud-fp.si/hamradio/packet.ht
ml.
Its a very slow link but very intereting.

I am fascinate from this kind of idea. I meet S53MV in Sep at Weinheim. He has
 give a
presentation of there new 1.2288 MB/s link on the HamRadio. They have build a
compled new TX/RX with integrated PSK ( os was is QPSK ?? ) modem. GREATH

Now I will spend some Time on test this kind of modems. I will start with the
"Manchester Modem".

Had anybody try this bevor ????

Is there anybody who live in my near and we can try this together ??? I live i
n
Freiburg. It is a town in south Germany.


73++    Joerg   DG2GJK





From [e-mail] Fri Nov 08 21:57:35 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Jason)
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In article <[e-mail]>, Kent Winrich <[e-mail]> wrote:
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> rec.radio.amateur.antenna,rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc,rec.radio.amateur.d
x,
>rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.homebrew,rec.radio.amateur.misc
,r
>ec.radio.amateur.policy,rec.radio.amateur.space
>Subject: Re: ARRL lawyer to sue member


[ BIG snip]..


yep... we really need to see this here in rec.radio.space..... geezz.

Jason     N1RWY


From [e-mail] Sat Nov 16 17:17:27 1996
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From: altavoz <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: $10 Ant' book, Paul Lee's , CQ magazine
Date: Mon, 11 Nov 1996 20:22:32 -0800
Organization: worldnet.att.net
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The best $10 ever spent ! "Amatuer radio vert' antenna HB"
By Capt Paul H. Lee N6PL

______End of text  from altavoz___________


From [e-mail] Sat Nov 16 17:17:28 1996
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From: Ronald Coursey <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: -->Radio Shack PRO-2006 Scanners For SAle<--
Date: Mon, 11 Nov 1996 09:56:43 -0800
Organization: General Device Instruments
Lines: 30
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
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Hello All We Have Radio Shack PRO-2006 Scanners For Sale
Model 20-145A 120VAC and 12VDC 400 Chan
25-520Mhz
760-823.945Mhz
851-868.945.Mhz
896-1300Mhz Stock out of the box.

If you mod this scanner you will VOID any return policy
PLease if you must mod the scanner wait until the warranty is up.

Brand New - 90 Day Warranty - $350
Factory Refurb (Mint Cond) - 30 Day Warranty - $300

All scanners come with new manual and antenna and use an 9 Volt
battery for memory back up -Not included-

Shipping is FED-X 2 Day Air $15 Add $5 for COD must be Cert Funds Only

Visa and Master Cards ok but must be shipped to Bank Billing Address
or please call or fax a signed order.

 Also Faxed orders welcome

 General Device Instruments
 Ronald Coursey N6UUM
 408-241-7376 Voice
 408-241-6375 Fax
 408-983-1234 BBS
 [e-mail] E-Mail
 www.generaldevice.com Web Site


From [e-mail] Sat Nov 16 17:17:29 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Jeff Jones)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: 56K packet?
Date: 12 Nov 1996 18:53:34 -0800
Organization: CRL Network Services      [phone]  [Login: guest]
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A fellow ham mentioned to me an article that he had read in Communications
Quarterly about doing 56K packet. I don't have access to the issue and
this sounds really interesting! Has anyone read the article and could
they give me some details about what was written? I am really interested
in this! Thanks!

Jeff
AB6MB



From [e-mail] Sat Nov 16 17:17:32 1996
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From: [e-mail]
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: 56K packet?
Date: Tue, 12 Nov 96 22:14:39 PDT
Organization: TAC, The Atlanta Connection and Radio.Org
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In Article<56bd7e$[e-mail]>, <[e-mail]> write:
> Path: news.radio.org!gatech!www.nntp.primenet.com!nntp.primenet.com!cpk-news
-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!su-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.pbi.net
!news5.crl.com!nexp.crl.com!crl.crl.com!not-for-mail
> From: [e-mail] (Jeff Jones)
> Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
> Subject: 56K packet?
> Date: 12 Nov 1996 18:53:34 -0800
> Organization: CRL Network Services      [phone]  [Login: guest]
> Lines: 9
> Message-ID: <56bd7e$[e-mail]>
> NNTP-Posting-Host: crl.com
> X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2]
>
> A fellow ham mentioned to me an article that he had read in Communications
> Quarterly about doing 56K packet. I don't have access to the issue and
> this sounds really interesting! Has anyone read the article and could
> they give me some details about what was written? I am really interested
> in this! Thanks!
>
> Jeff
> AB6MB
>
For a good reference about 56k baud packet radio operations...
connect to the following web site here in the Atlanta area:

www.wa4dsy.radio.org

Dale, WA4DSY, is the creator of the 56k packet modem and has lots of
useful information on how to order, technical specs., and other weird things
about the 56k packet modem. When you connect to his www site you will
notice that his web link is via that 56k modem to the internet. Check it
out...you'll love what you'll see

John
KD6CLO




From [e-mail] Sat Nov 16 17:17:33 1996
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From: "Bob Dye" <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: aus.radio.amateur.digital,aus.radio.amateur.misc,aus.radio.packet,in.ham-radio,rec.radio.amateur.antenna,rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc,rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.space
Subject: AEA DSP-232, Azimuth/Elevation rotor, & SatTrak IV Tracking Box
Date: 14 Nov 1996 02:55:11 GMT
Organization: kc4hdk
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I have a DSP-232 and a SatTrak IV for sale.  Never opened,
I purchased them new and never got into satellite.  I sold my
Yaesu 736 now have no use for them.  I also have a Yaesu G-5400
Azimuth/Elevation Rotor that was put up outside for only 6 months.

Please e-mail me or call.

Bob
[e-mail]
561-552-3114 voice mail



From [e-mail] Sat Nov 16 17:17:34 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Russell Gore)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Anyone else playing with PIC16Cxx microcontrollers
Date: Mon, 11 Nov 1996 23:11:52 GMT
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        Just wondering if anyone is playing with the PIC16Cxx microcontrollers
from Microhip?  I have been playing with them for a little time, I am
writing a little program to hook up to the KAM or any modem, monitor
pin status and mabe the ADC in the 16C71 and send this telemetry back
over packet and some other little stuff like that.  Wonder if anyone
else is using it in amateur radio applications??
73 Russ



From [e-mail] Sat Nov 16 17:17:35 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Andrew John Murrell)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: Best term software...
Date: 12 Nov 1996 15:36:07 GMT
Organization: Brunel University, Uxbridge, UK
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In article <[e-mail]>,
        [e-mail] (David Covert) writes:
>
>I am new to packet and would like to know what you consider to be the
>best terminal package for packet work. I have seen WinPack and am
>looking for other candidates before settling down with one. Please
>let me know your opinion.

It really depends what OS you plan to use, if you want to use windows stick
with winpack, but if you want to use dos paket61 is a good choice

Andy, g7ueh

--

email - [e-mail]




From [e-mail] Sat Nov 16 17:17:36 1996
From: [e-mail] (David Covert)
Subject: Best term software...
Date: 12 Nov 96 14:34:21 -0800
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
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Lines: 7


I am new to packet and would like to know what you consider to be the
best terminal package for packet work. I have seen WinPack and am
looking for other candidates before settling down with one. Please
let me know your opinion.

thx 73 de dave kb5gog


From [e-mail] Sat Nov 16 17:17:36 1996
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From: [e-mail]
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: Best term software...
Date: Wed, 13 Nov 96 14:06:56 GMT
Organization: MHVNet, the Mid Hudson Valley's Internet connection
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In article <56a5h7$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Andrew John
Murrell) wrote:
>In article <[e-mail]>,
>        [e-mail] (David Covert) writes:
>>
>>I am new to packet and would like to know what you consider to be the
>>best terminal package for packet work. I have seen WinPack and am
>>looking for other candidates before settling down with one. Please
>>let me know your opinion.
>
>It really depends what OS you plan to use, if you want to use windows stick
>with winpack, but if you want to use dos paket61 is a good choice
>
>Andy, g7ueh>


   I'll recommend KAGold. I use it in Windows 95. EXCELLENT software!

Tom


   Tom Randall            Amateur Radio - KB2SMS
   [e-mail]       Mt. Beacon Amateur Radio Club / ARRL
                          Member: AAVSO Solar Division
                          "Hoof hearted, Ice melted!"

   Opinions herein are mine and may not be that of MHV.NET!


From [e-mail] Sat Nov 16 17:17:37 1996
From: [e-mail] (Tim Madden)
Subject: Re: Best term software...
Date: 13 Nov 96 01:52:17 -0800
References: <[e-mail]> <56a5h7$[e-mail]>
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
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Lines: 16

I would not worry about settling down with any one package.

I use the APRS package sometimes and I use the plain old Windows 3.1
terminal program others.
The terminal program works well when I configure the function keys to
connect to the local PBBS or DX Cluster.  I labeled the key with the
purpose and frequency so it is quick.

If you have a radio with a remote (computer) frequency control, and a
custom terminal program that works the various pieces of packet
infrastructure and tunes the radio, that would be ideal.

I think the best has yet to be written.  Most DX and Contest hams
around here switch programs to do DX Cluster spotting and Contest or
DX logging at the same time with multi-purpose logger/packet
programs.  Some of these add remote interface to the HF rig.


From [e-mail] Sat Nov 16 17:17:38 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Andrew John Murrell)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: BPQ server site ????
Date: 11 Nov 1996 14:56:59 GMT
Organization: Brunel University, Uxbridge, UK
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Message-ID: <567err$[e-mail]>
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Does anyone know of a BPQ server site like the excellent winpack site ?

Or failing that, does anyone know of a server that allows the QRZ cd-rom
to be interfaced to bpq ???

Thanks

Andy, g7ueh

[e-mail]
--

"If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck and quacks like a duck
 you've got a duck" -- Dan Rather




From [e-mail] Sat Nov 16 17:17:40 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Marty Albert)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Bulletin Export Files Available
Date: Fri, 08 Nov 1996 17:21:10 GMT
Organization: TruCom Internet Services
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Hello, Folks:

I now have Packet Bulletin Export Files available on my Home Page.

The files are split by distribution group. I now have the following
available: ALLUSA, WW, EU, CANADA, ARRL, AMSAT, and NASA, and many
others. Others may be added as needed.

Files will be posted daily and should be online after about Noon
Central Time.

Just point your Netscape 3.0 or MS Inetrnet Explorer 3.0 browser at:

   http://www.trucom.com/ppages/marty

and go to the Amateur Radio area. The rest should be clear to all.

NOTE: New export files by distribution are being added almost daily!
Many thanks to all who are sending me their BBS exprts via attached
E-Mail for inclusion!

I have just today (17 OCT) updated the pages to include a Frames
Version that makes navigation around the site easier. Note that the
non-Frames Versions are still there but the URLs have changed.

Take Care & 73



Marty Albert - [e-mail]
Amateur Radio: KC6UFM@KC6UFM.#SEMO.MO.USA.NOAM

Heartland Internet Services

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From [e-mail] Sat Nov 16 17:17:41 1996
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From: "Eric" <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Club WWW site
Date: 13 Nov 1996 09:06:56 GMT
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This is the Hamtpon Roads Radio Association web site you may be interested
in.  We are located in Norfolk Virginia.  Let me know what you think!

Eric KE4KIK 73!

http://www.infi.net/hrra


From [e-mail] Sat Nov 16 17:17:42 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Ellis G.)
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Subject: Re: Club WWW site
Date: Wed, 13 Nov 1996 22:01:58 GMT
Organization: The Internet Access Company, Inc.
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"Eric" <[e-mail]> wrote:

>This is the Hamtpon Roads Radio Association web site you may be interested
>in.  We are located in Norfolk Virginia.  Let me know what you think!

Very cool!

(it took forevvvvvvvvvvvvver to load!)

Ellis


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From [e-mail] Sat Nov 16 17:17:43 1996
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From: Dave Booth <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: Club WWW site
Date: Thu, 14 Nov 1996 15:25:18 -0800
Organization: KC6WFS
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Eric wrote:
>
> This is the Hamtpon Roads Radio Association web site you may be interested
> in.  We are located in Norfolk Virginia.  Let me know what you think!
>
> Eric KE4KIK 73!
>
> http://www.infi.net/hrra

I'll go and check it out!
http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/5860
--
Dave Booth kc6wfs


From [e-mail] Sat Nov 16 17:17:44 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Jimmy Navarro)
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Subject: Re: Club WWW site
Date: 15 Nov 1996 07:16:37 GMT
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In article <01bbd141$bc5224c0$[e-mail]>,
[e-mail] says...
>
>This is the Hamtpon Roads Radio Association web site you may be interested
>in.  We are located in Norfolk Virginia.  Let me know what you think!
>
>Eric KE4KIK 73!
>
>http://www.infi.net/hrra
How much do your ISP charge for home page?  I'd like to build a Web site for
an open repeater club.  73!



From [e-mail] Sat Nov 16 17:17:45 1996
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From: DANNY STALLINGS <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: Club WWW site
Date: Fri, 15 Nov 1996 12:56:12 -0500
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Jimmy Navarro wrote:
>
> In article <01bbd141$bc5224c0$[e-mail]>,
> [e-mail] says...
> >
> >This is the Hamtpon Roads Radio Association web site you may be interested
> >in.  We are located in Norfolk Virginia.  Let me know what you think!
> >
> >Eric KE4KIK 73!
> >
> >http://www.infi.net/hrra
> How much do your ISP charge for home page?  I'd like to build a Web site for
> an open repeater club.  73!
NICE PAGE BUT TAKES FOREVERE AT 28.8 TO LAOD.
PLEASE VISIT MY HOMEPAGE AT
HTTP://WWW.GEOCITIES.COM/HEARTLAND/3764
DAN-KC4OR


From [e-mail] Sat Nov 16 17:17:46 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Gary Pearce)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Copying RTTY with KAM + ?
Date: Mon, 11 Nov 1996 11:56:36 GMT
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With the help of several hams on this newsgroup, I'm up and running with my
KAM Plus and Icom 706, using KaWin software.  My third RTTY contact was
Japan, during the WAE-RTTY contest, from here in North Carolina.

HF digital is still something of a mystery (what frequencies, what modes,
what bps rates, what tones, who's "live" and who's automated....?).  I have
some reading to do in the ARRL operating manual... any other good books or
web sites to read?  (I've found Gloria Medcalf's site -
http://www.idir.net/~medcalf/ztx/).

But my most immediate question involves RTTY:

When in RTTY mode, listening to an "empty" frequency, the KAM's bargraph
display is full of "noise," and my computer display is constantly printing
"garbage" characters.  Once I've tuned in a signal, I print the copy fine,
but as soon as the signal drops the "garbage" returns.

In limited experimenting, I think I've found that if I'm NOT using HOST
mode (if I connect to the KAM with just a standard communications program),
this doesn't happen so much.

The manual doesn't show any software or hardware adjustments that I can
find (probably right under my nose).

Any suggestions?  Anybody want a sked?

73,
Gary
========
Gary Pearce             Avid/Video Editor       Internet:[e-mail]
116 Waterfall Ct.       Franklin Video
Cary, NC 27513          Raleigh, NC
919-380-9944            919-833-8888            Ham Radio: KN4AQ



From [e-mail] Sat Nov 16 17:17:47 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Gary L. Johnson)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: Copying RTTY with KAM + ?
Date: 11 Nov 1996 13:06:05 GMT
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In article <567474$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] says...
>
>
 >But my most immediate question involves RTTY:
>
>When in RTTY mode, listening to an "empty" frequency, the KAM's bargraph
>display is full of "noise," and my computer display is constantly printing
>"garbage" characters.  Once I've tuned in a signal, I print the copy fine,
>but as soon as the signal drops the "garbage" returns.
>
>In limited experimenting, I think I've found that if I'm NOT using HOST
>mode (if I connect to the KAM with just a standard communications program),
>this doesn't happen so much.
>
>The manual doesn't show any software or hardware adjustments that I can
>find (probably right under my nose).
>


        In the Kantronics installation it notes that input
level greater than 50mv should be padded.  The basic answer is to reduce the
signal level to the TNC.  It should not make any difference whether
the TNC is running in Host mode or command mode.

73 Gary KF7XP


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From [e-mail] Sat Nov 16 17:17:48 1996
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From: [e-mail]
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Subject: Could you tell me KJ7GZ's CA's packet address?
Date: 10 Nov 1996 14:10:54 GMT
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Hi there.
Dose anyone know KJ7GZ's CA's COMPLETE PACKET ADDRESS?
I think Mr. Hill is staying in CA on his long vacation.
Though I know his LAKEWOOD's address , don't know his CA's.
If you know above , would you let me know?
Thanks in advance.

_His packet friend  Takeshi Tsunemoto - JN1RII
email: [e-mail]
packet: [e-mail]
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From [e-mail] Sat Nov 16 17:17:49 1996
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From: "Robert D." <[e-mail]>
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Subject: FS:PacComm gear
Date: Thu, 14 Nov 1996 17:00:55 -0600
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FOR SALE:  Complete PacComm satellite setup - both the Narrowband DFM
TNC and PSK-1.  For PACSAT work.
Bought from Bob Myers Communications one year ago.  Never used.  In
original boxes.  Original cost $547.  Will sell to highest offer over
$275.  Yes, $275.  Plus shipping.  Sorry, no trades.  Cannot answer
technical questions (didn't get round to learning it!)  No phone calls
please.  Send inquiries to e-mail only.
73 de KF9ZK


From [e-mail] Sat Nov 16 17:17:50 1996
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From: AC6V <[e-mail]>
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Subject: FYI: 400 Ham radio Links
Date: Sat, 09 Nov 1996 09:24:53 -0800
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FEATURING 40 PAGES AND OVER 400 LINKS TO DX AND HAM RADIO

Includes Links to HF Digital, APRS, Great Packet Tutorial

AC6V DX Reference Page at:  http://www.netcom.com/~ac6v/index.html


From [e-mail] Sat Nov 16 17:17:51 1996
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From: Chris Lewicki <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Good modem for satellite work?
Date: 13 Nov 1996 09:08:28 GMT
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Hello,
        Our ham club is setting up a satellite station and we're going
to be purchasing a modem to replace our twitchy pac-com 1200 BD psk
modem.  As for criteria, we'd like to be able to communicate with
everything up there, possibly including Wefax, as well as be able to
expand it to 56Kb/s at some point.
        I'm not too familiar with how the different modems work (as
far as the separation of TNC and modem), but I'd like something that
has one line to the radio, and the other to the serial port on the
computer. Capability to use under Linux is a boon.
        So, from what I've gleaned from various publications, these
are the ones I've been looking at:

AEA DSP-2232 (or 1132)
TAPR DSP-93
PacCom Spirit 2
AEA DSP-232

Out of these, I've only had a chance to play with the TAPR modem, and
even though I couldn't really get it to work, I kinda liked it (I'm
sick that way). I've heard some people say that it isn't "completely
finished" yet, but I may be willing to wait for completeness if it
works in some fashion now.  The fact that TAPR is just down the road
(I'm in Tucson), make it a bit more attractive, and the extra $500 I'd
save compared to the 2232 can go a long way towards something else for
the station.

I like the "dual-port" capability of the 2232, but I can't say I'd use
it sooner than a year from now.

I know the Spirit has 56KB capability off the bat, so that's a plus there...

No idea about the DSP 232.

Any other ones out there I'm neglecting?

I'd be gracious to hear people's experiences or suggestions with any
of these modems.

--
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From [e-mail] Sat Nov 16 17:17:52 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Martin Rath)
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Subject: Ham Radio Home Page
Date: Sat, 09 Nov 1996 16:01:41 GMT
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Hi
I just finished my new home Page. If you are a Ham
Radio or a citizen bander give me the adress of your
home page and I will link you !
Have a look at:
http://www.geocities.com/Paris/2565

73's from Martin Rath FA1UKP
http://www.geocities.com/Paris/2565
[e-mail]
[e-mail]



From [e-mail] Sat Nov 16 17:17:53 1996
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From: johnf <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Ham Radio Site
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http://www.cyberramp.net/~johnf


From [e-mail] Sat Nov 16 17:17:53 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Roland Stiner)
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How do you get your messages to display from Juno onto Usenet?
--


From [e-mail] Sat Nov 16 17:17:55 1996
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From: John Hughes <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: Hams Need to Develop Better Technology
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[e-mail] (Gary Coffman) wrote:
>
> >
> >Let me see the old technology
> >     1) 10 Ghz WAN, using TCP/IP at 10mbs. Carring HTTP, NNTP. SMTP.
> >     2) UHF Linked Radio Networks covering thousands of square miles.
> >     3) 1200 Mhz 2400 bps Digital Voice Radios.
> >     4) Mobile Satellite SSB Voice Communications.
> >     5) Mobile FM Video Communiucations.

>
> But does any of that stuff beep? "Real" hams beep, shoot skip,
> and work "DEE-X". "Real" hams have no use for stuff that they
> can't copy by ear and send by hand. Any "real" ham will tell you
> that developments only come from giant multinational corporations.
>
> Somehow, I don't think you're a "real" ham. Too bad there aren't
> more like you in amateur radio.
>
> Gary

I usually like reading your posts.  You've got so much technical information
to offer, even in support of other agendas, that i can count on learning
something or at least about something.

This bunch of insults, however, just continues the internecine backbiting
that does little to advance honest debate.  Someone offers concrete examples
to support his point and the response is invective and an offhand, "you're the
exception" type of comment.

I don't know what a "real" ham is.  Lots of people involved for reasons of the
ir
own.  Some very smart, very technical, some, like me, non technical, but hopin
g
to learn a bit abt the mysteries of electronics.

But there're always people ready to tear you down, to build themselves up.  Ha
s to be
a better way to communicate, pun intended.

I'm not the thought, speech or any other kind of police.  But look forward to
reading
more of your (intended or not) educational type posts...73 de John, ks4xn.



From [e-mail] Sat Nov 16 17:17:56 1996
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From: [e-mail] (John D. Seney, WD1V,   LeCroy T&M   800.553.2769)
Subject: Hams Using Mac Computers
Organization: MV Communications, Inc.
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Looking for software and hints 'n kinks?

Visit my home page.

73,

John D. Seney
http://www.mv.com/ipusers/wd1v


From [e-mail] Sat Nov 16 17:17:57 1996
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From: [e-mail] (David Wm. Thomas)
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Subject: Help on APRS with KAM+
Date: Tue, 12 Nov 1996 23:16:57 GMT
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I am trying to get my KAM+ working with APRS, Version 7.4.  I have
tried older versions and and they all do the same.  I am trying to get
it to go into the HF mode.  The software receives the packets and
everything fine, it just won't transmit.  Do I have to have my VHF
radio hooked up with it also?  The VHF part seems to work just fine.
I have tried the ALT-S, the Controls menu and setting up 2 port and
selecting HF also.  When I hit the tab key, the screen says 2*HF.  I
have tried just HF and nothing else seems to work.  When I try to send
a beacon, the screen says ..transmitting... but nothing happens.  I am
using a ICOM 738 and it works with the KAM+ fine with all other
software, like Hostmaster and others.  I noticed that if I go into the
Operations menu and athen into the cmd. mode, I can set the beacon to
transmit every 1 minute, and the HF rig does transmit packets,
although I don't know what they are, I assume that it is the beacon.
Then I can go back and shut off the beacon. and everything continues
the same.  Am I missing something?   Can I use the APRS software just
with the HF rig?

Dave, K3MWT



From [e-mail] Sat Nov 16 17:17:58 1996
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Subject: Re: Help on APRS with KAM+
Date: Tue, 12 Nov 96 22:19:45 PDT
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In Article<56b0k7$[e-mail]>, <[e-mail]> write:
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> From: [e-mail] (David Wm. Thomas)
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> Subject: Help on APRS with KAM+
> Date: Tue, 12 Nov 1996 23:16:57 GMT
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>
> I am trying to get my KAM+ working with APRS, Version 7.4.  I have
> tried older versions and and they all do the same.  I am trying to get
> it to go into the HF mode.  The software receives the packets and
> everything fine, it just won't transmit.  Do I have to have my VHF
> radio hooked up with it also?  The VHF part seems to work just fine.
> I have tried the ALT-S, the Controls menu and setting up 2 port and
> selecting HF also.  When I hit the tab key, the screen says 2*HF.  I
> have tried just HF and nothing else seems to work.  When I try to send
> a beacon, the screen says ..transmitting... but nothing happens.  I am
> using a ICOM 738 and it works with the KAM+ fine with all other
> software, like Hostmaster and others.  I noticed that if I go into the
> Operations menu and athen into the cmd. mode, I can set the beacon to
> transmit every 1 minute, and the HF rig does transmit packets,
> although I don't know what they are, I assume that it is the beacon.
> Then I can go back and shut off the beacon. and everything continues
> the same.  Am I missing something?   Can I use the APRS software just
> with the HF rig?
>
> Dave, K3MWT
>

Dave,

My suggestion is to check out this web site here in the Atlanta area
here in Georgia:

http://www.mindspring.com/~rwf/aprs.html

APRS is really big here in the Atlanta area and this web page should help
you out for the right information.

John
KD6CLO




From [e-mail] Sat Nov 16 17:17:59 1996
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From: [e-mail] (David Alexander)
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Subject: help please: help finding modem in LA area
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Hi folks,

My father, UK callsign G4AKD, is going to be in the LA area sometime soon. he
would like to buy a modem while he is there:

an AEA PK232 Mk 2

I would be grateful to hear from anyone who could offer assistance, or let me
know where to get them from so that I can pass the knowledge on to him.

Please e-mail me:

[e-mail]

many thanks


David Alexander, AIX 3.2 & 4.1 Support Professional & SP Certified
Technical Manager
Unilink Computers Ltd
Enterprise House
59-65 Upper Ground
London, UK
Tel [phone]
[e-mail]


From [e-mail] Sat Nov 16 17:18:00 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Bob Novak)
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Subject: Re: help please: help finding modem in LA area
Date: Tue, 12 Nov 1996 14:35:33 GMT
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On Tue, 12 Nov 1996 09:24:56, [e-mail] (David Alexander)
wrote:

>Hi folks,
>
>My father, UK callsign G4AKD, is going to be in the LA area sometime soon. he

>would like to buy a modem while he is there:
>
>an AEA PK232 Mk 2
>
>I would be grateful to hear from anyone who could offer assistance, or let me

>know where to get them from so that I can pass the knowledge on to him.

Probably the company with the largest inventory of packet equipment
and best prices in the LA area is Ham Radio Outlet. They have a store
in Orange County, near Disneyland on Euclid Blvd.  Ask for Dale,
KB7UB, he is very knowledgeable about packet. HRO has a homepage at
http://www.hamradio.com . Dale's page is at http://www.bono.com/bubba/




Bob Novak
http://www.bono.com


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From: [e-mail] (Jason)
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Subject: Help! KPC-3 to alinco Dj160T HT
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Has anyone done this?
The manual does not give any wiring instructions for the Alinco...

TNX,   Jason N1RWY
[e-mail]


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Subject: HELP!!!! I am lost in transparent mode
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Help!

My MFJ 1278b is in transparent mode.  I have followed the instructions
and can't seem to get out.  Can someone help me escape from this fate!

Alan
W1HYV


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From: Dave Maciorowski <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc,rec.radio.amateur.homebrew
Subject: Re: HELP:TNC Radio interfacing
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Gabe Nemeth wrote:
>
> Hi, and thanks for reading;
> I'm interested in information (Books, Web Pages, etc) that detail
> to any degree the interfacing of 9k6bps TNCs to FM radios. Does
> anyone have or know of a source of this type of information?
> Perhaph there is a circuit cookbook showing how it is all done.
> Gabe Nemeth VE3SLJ. <[e-mail]>

Mike's Curtis's 9600 Baud Packet Handbook is a good place to start.
Get it from ftp://ftp.tapr.org/tapr/general/9600baud/96man2x0.txt

In general, crystaled radios and synthesized all-mode radios work the
best.  Most of the other synthesized FM radios work, but not very well.
They may say "data ready", but they're not.

Many of us are using either TEKK radios or surplus commercial radios,
eg. Motorola Micor or Mitrek.  Mod instructions for these are available.

-----
Dave Maciorowski, WA1JHK
Colorado Repeater Association, Inc.
  Serving Colorado with Voice and Data, 6-Meters to 1.2 Gig

Internet: [e-mail] or [e-mail]
CRA:      http://www.rmsd.com/hamradio/cra/


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From: mays@indigo (Skip May)
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Subject: Re: HELP:TNC Radio interfacing
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Contact TAPR (Tuson Amateur Packet Radio), they have a web page. Their
one of the ones who started all the packet mess and they have projects
and information avail for 9600 packet.

73's
Skip May   WV6F
[e-mail]


Gabe Nemeth ([e-mail]) wrote:
: Hi, and thanks for reading;
: I'm interested in information (Books, Web Pages, etc) that detail
: to any degree the interfacing of 9k6bps TNCs to FM radios. Does
: anyone have or know of a source of this type of information?
: Perhaph there is a circuit cookbook showing how it is all done.
: Gabe Nemeth VE3SLJ. <[e-mail]>


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From: Gabe Nemeth <[e-mail]>
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Subject: HELP:TNC Radio interfacing
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Hi, and thanks for reading;
I'm interested in information (Books, Web Pages, etc) that detail
to any degree the interfacing of 9k6bps TNCs to FM radios. Does
anyone have or know of a source of this type of information?
Perhaph there is a circuit cookbook showing how it is all done.
Gabe Nemeth VE3SLJ. <[e-mail]>


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From: Gabe Nemeth <[e-mail]>
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Subject: HELP:TNC software tools
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Hello and thanks for reading.
Is there any software tools or users groups that can provide
some of the basic TNC terminal s/w functions? C or VB would
be great?  To be specific this would include port interface s/w,
PACKET s/w, APRS,. etc..
Gabe Nemeth <[e-mail]>


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In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Bruce Gaska
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From [e-mail] Sat Nov 16 17:18:07 1996
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From: "Neal Zipper" <[e-mail]>
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Subject: IP Address
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I am new to IP for ham radio and want to know if the address we receive
from ampr.org are true Internet IP addresses or just for the ham Radio side
of the routers? Any one know?

--
Neal Zipper, CNA
KR4IZ

Please note my new Email address. Please update your bookmarks.
Email: [e-mail]


From [e-mail] Sat Nov 16 17:18:08 1996
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From: David Kelly <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: IP Address
Date: Wed, 13 Nov 1996 23:15:13 -0600
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Neal Zipper wrote:
>
> I am new to IP for ham radio and want to know if the address we receive
> from ampr.org are true Internet IP addresses or just for the ham Radio side
> of the routers? Any one know?

Looks real to me. Try "nslookup" for yourself on your ISP.
This doesn't mean the nets are *really* connected (everywhere)
but the groundwork is done to make the connections.

        nexgen: {1182} nslookup kr4iz
        Server:  spider.HiWAAY.net
        Address:  204.214.4.4

        Name:    kr4iz.ampr.org
        Address:  44.98.24.79

--
David Kelly N4HHE, [e-mail] (wk), [e-mail] (hm)
=====================================================================
The human mind ordinarily operates at only ten percent of its
capacity -- the rest is overhead for the operating system.


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Subject: Re: IP Address
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So does this mean there are IP gateways on the net that will allow access
though trusted IP addresses to the Ham side? If so who are they and is
there any info available to set it up? What software would I use for the
gateway and mail server? I have here a home a small network that could be
used as a gateway if needed (1 station ham side, 1 station
Internet/router).

The more I'm in ham radio the neater it gets!
--
Neal Zipper, CNA (4 more tests and counting for the CNE)
KR4IZ

Please note my new Email address. Please update your bookmarks.
Email: [e-mail]

David Kelly <[e-mail]> wrote in article
<[e-mail]>...
> Neal Zipper wrote:
> >
> > I am new to IP for ham radio and want to know if the address we receive
> > from ampr.org are true Internet IP addresses or just for the ham Radio
side
> > of the routers? Any one know?
>
> Looks real to me. Try "nslookup" for yourself on your ISP.
> This doesn't mean the nets are *really* connected (everywhere)
> but the groundwork is done to make the connections.
>
>       nexgen: {1182} nslookup kr4iz
>       Server:  spider.HiWAAY.net
>       Address:  204.214.4.4
>
>       Name:    kr4iz.ampr.org
>       Address:  44.98.24.79
>
> --
> David Kelly N4HHE, [e-mail] (wk), [e-mail] (hm)
> =====================================================================
> The human mind ordinarily operates at only ten percent of its
> capacity -- the rest is overhead for the operating system.
>


From [e-mail] Sat Nov 16 17:18:11 1996
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From: [e-mail] (John Kesling)
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Subject: Re: IP Address
Date: Thu, 14 Nov 1996 19:47:57 GMT
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David Kelly <[e-mail]> wrote:

>Neal Zipper wrote:
>>
>> I am new to IP for ham radio and want to know if the address we receive
>> from ampr.org are true Internet IP addresses or just for the ham Radio side
>> of the routers? Any one know?
>
>Looks real to me. Try "nslookup" for yourself on your ISP.
>This doesn't mean the nets are *really* connected (everywhere)
>but the groundwork is done to make the connections.
>
>       nexgen: {1182} nslookup kr4iz
>       Server:  spider.HiWAAY.net
>       Address:  204.214.4.4
>
>       Name:    kr4iz.ampr.org
>       Address:  44.98.24.79
>
>--
>David Kelly N4HHE, [e-mail] (wk), [e-mail] (hm)

Yep, that's right, ampr.org is a real fully registered domain.

Most ampr.org addresses are not routed from packet to the
wired side of the internet though.  The FCC rules put the
responsibility for the content of packet transmissions on
the first station to transmit them in the ham bands.  I would
not want to run a wide open router knowing that at any time
someone anyplace on the internet could send illegal (for
amateur radio)  traffic to a node routed through me that
could put my license in jeopardy.

It is fairly straight forward to implement a router from
wired internet to packet internet but until the rules
change I don't think you'll see it happening very often.

73 - John
----------------------------------------------
 John Kesling - WA8ZGO - [e-mail]


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Neal Zipper wrote:
>
> So does this mean there are IP gateways on the net that will allow access
> though trusted IP addresses to the Ham side? If so who are they and is
> there any info available to set it up? What software would I use for the
> gateway and mail server? I have here a home a small network that could be
> used as a gateway if needed (1 station ham side, 1 station
> Internet/router).


Actually both ends can be accomplished in a single computer, using one
of the xNOS variants or Linux.

See http://minnie.cs.adfa.oz.au/Gateways for information on
radio/internet gateways.

Bob

--
Bob Nielsen                 Internet: [e-mail]
Tucson, AZ                  AMPRnet:  [e-mail]
                            AX.25:    [e-mail]
                            http://www.primenet.com/~nielsen


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Can I just use a standard X.25 serial driver for Windows 95 or does it need
to be a special driver. I can't seem to find a 32bit driver. I want to use
a 32bit driver so it is compatible with the other networking stuff I have.
--
Neal Zipper, CNA
KR4IZ

Please note my new Email address. Please update your bookmarks.
Email: [e-mail]




From [e-mail] Sat Nov 16 17:18:14 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Jens David)
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Subject: Re: IP Number
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Hi,

In <[e-mail]>, Geoff Storchan <[e-mail]> writes:
>Does anyone know of a datbase on the internet where I can llok up IP
>numbers?? I applied for a number a few months ago but never received
>anything in my bbs mailbox about it. Yet last weekend my friend was
>looking through some datbase and found my number. I would like to know
>how to reach it or maybe you can reach it and will doublecheck for me and
>see if my IP number is in there. Thanks a lot!!!
>
>73 es vy good DX,
>
>Geoff KB8UUM
>

Well, how about looking up the address on one of the authentative DNSs for the
domain in question?

73s
   Jens

[e-mail]



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From: [e-mail] (Clint Bradford)
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Subject: Re: KPC-3 and HTX-202 Help!!!!!
Date: Tue,  5 Nov 1996 03:48:00 GMT
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> Hi I just bought a KPC-3 and want to hook it up to my HTX-202 HT. I

Here's the TNC hook up for the Radio Shack 2m HT:

   TNC                                         Radio
   ===                                         =====

Audio Out  -----------||--------------  Tip of Mic plug
                      C1     |
                             |
PTT Line   ----\/\/\/--------|          Ring of Mic (not connected)
                 R1

Audio In   ---------------------------  Tip of speaker plug

Ground     ---------------------------  Ring of Speaker plug

C1 is a 0.1 mfd capacitor of any type, R1 is 2200 ohms.


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From: "Cees Slager" <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: KPC9612
Date: 10 Nov 1996 12:29:57 GMT
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I am looking for a program witch runs in Windows95 and is capable of
working and support the Kantronics KPC9612 TNC.
The program should also have at least 6 com ports, who can help.




From [e-mail] Sat Nov 16 17:18:16 1996
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From: "Stan Huntting" <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: KPC9612
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Cees Slager <[e-mail]> wrote in article
<01bbcf02$af0efd60$LocalHost@pentium>...
> I am looking for a program witch runs in Windows95 and is capable of
> working and support the Kantronics KPC9612 TNC.
> The program should also have at least 6 com ports, who can help.

Ask, and ye shall download the solution. See the KaWin Home Page at
http://www.mutadv.com/kawin/

73,

Stan
----------------------------------------------
Stan Huntting,    KF0IA
Email:            [e-mail]
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                  Boulder, CO 80301-1731, USA



From [e-mail] Sat Nov 16 17:18:17 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Jason)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Latest firmware version for KPC-3?
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What is the latest version of firm ware for the KPC-3?

Will 5.1 do GPS?
If I have 5.1 what do I have to do for an upgrade.. How much $?

Jason  N1RWY


From [e-mail] Sat Nov 16 17:18:20 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Steve K Brown)
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Subject: LBBS Help
Date: Sat, 09 Nov 96 13:13:09 GMT
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Hi all,

I run a mailbox using the fine LBBS 0.18B written by Darryl Miles and
have been trying to contact him with a couple of problems, but he
doesn't appear to be around anymore.

If anyone can give me his *current* email address, or, help me with the
following points, I'd be appreciative.

1. There seems to be a problem with the bbs-inject program when some
   R-lines that include mixed alphanumeric fields. Notably, there are
   four Dutch stations along the lines of [e-mail] where the
   'ZA2' whatever causes the bbs-inject to stall, leaving a lock file
   behind. This happens everytime and means my spool directory grows and
   grows. Ihave to manually 'adjust' those lines, and it works again.

2. My forwarding partner has upgraded his system to NNA 3.01. Although
   our forwarding appears to be fine, I understand there is a potential
   problem, and that a new version of LBBS has a fix. This *could* be a
   fix for the suspect FBB Compressed Forwarding rather than
   specifically for NNA though.

Any clues?


Steve


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From [e-mail] Sat Nov 16 17:18:21 1996
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From: [e-mail] (David J Brown)
Newsgroups: uk.radio.amateur,rec.radio.amateur.packet,rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: LBBS Help
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Steve K Brown ([e-mail]) wrote:
: Hi all,

: I run a mailbox using the fine LBBS 0.18B written by Darryl Miles and
: have been trying to contact him with a couple of problems, but he
: doesn't appear to be around anymore.

: If anyone can give me his *current* email address, or, help me with the
: following points, I'd be appreciative.

I'll mail a copy of this to Darryl and also mail you his email address
tomorrow when I can access my 'Zmail Aliases' :-)

Cheers, g7pit
--
               David J Brown [e-mail] but at home.


From [e-mail] Sat Nov 16 17:18:22 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Jonathan Naylor)
Newsgroups: uk.radio.amateur,rec.radio.amateur.packet,rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: LBBS Help
Date: 12 Nov 1996 09:18:34 -0000
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[e-mail] (Steve K Brown) writes:
>Hi all,
>
>I run a mailbox using the fine LBBS 0.18B written by Darryl Miles and
>have been trying to contact him with a couple of problems, but he
>doesn't appear to be around anymore.

FYI FBB for Linux should be available soon, and unlike Darryl, Jean-Paul is:
i)  contactable,
ii) willing to listen to good ideas.

>If anyone can give me his *current* email address, or, help me with the
>following points, I'd be appreciative.

<RANT>
Darryl is *very* difficult to contact, and does not offer good support for
his BBS which is unacceptable, he should release the source code and then
you would have a number of experts within a short period. Bugs would be
fixed better too.
</RANT>

I suggest you subscribe to the Linux-Hams mailing list as that is the
primary support forum for Linux and amateur radio, there are a number of
LBBS users on there.

To join it, send a message to [e-mail] with the body of
the message containing:

subscribe linux-hams
end

Then send your request to [e-mail], they're very helpful.

>Steve


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Jonathan

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From [e-mail] Sat Nov 16 17:18:22 1996
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From: [e-mail] (John Morris)
Newsgroups: uk.radio.amateur,rec.radio.amateur.packet,rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: LBBS Help
Date: Wed, 13 Nov 96 19:59:38 GMT
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In article <569fda$[e-mail]>
           [e-mail] "Jonathan Naylor" writes:

> <RANT>
> Darryl is *very* difficult to contact, and does not offer good support for
> his BBS which is unacceptable,

[snip]

You should demand your money back...

Seriously, did you pay anything? Did he make any money out of it? If
not, I really don't think you are in a position to criticise.

73, John.

--
John Morris                Usenet is essentially Letters to the Editor
[e-mail]    without the editor. Editors don't appreciate
GM4ANB@GB7EDN.#77.GBR.EU   this, for some reason.      - Larry Wall






From [e-mail] Sat Nov 16 17:18:24 1996
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From: John Morris <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: uk.radio.amateur,rec.radio.amateur.packet,rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: LBBS Help
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Michael J Wooding <[e-mail]> wrote:
>In article <[e-mail]>, John Morris
><[e-mail]> writes
>>> Darryl is *very* difficult to contact, and does not offer good support for
>>> his BBS which is unacceptable,
>
>Perhaps you should provide one then - out of your own pocket of course
>and in your own time!

Hey - watch that editing when you are quoting!

I *did not* write anything apparently attributed to me above.

John, GM4ANB




From [e-mail] Sat Nov 16 17:18:25 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Martin Vernon)
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Steve K Brown ([e-mail]) wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I run a mailbox using the fine LBBS 0.18B written by Darryl Miles and
> have been trying to contact him with a couple of problems, but he
> doesn't appear to be around anymore.
>
> If anyone can give me his *current* email address, or, help me with the
> following points, I'd be appreciative.
>
> 1. There seems to be a problem with the bbs-inject program when some
>    R-lines that include mixed alphanumeric fields. Notably, there are
>    four Dutch stations along the lines of [e-mail] where the
>    'ZA2' whatever causes the bbs-inject to stall, leaving a lock file
>    behind. This happens everytime and means my spool directory grows and
>    grows. Ihave to manually 'adjust' those lines, and it works again.

Are you sure it's relative to the alphanumeric's - reason I ask is because
a similar thing happen's to one of my boxes running LBBS 0.18B but this is
down to the actual size of the compressed FBB code blocks. Seems that
anything MUCH over 10K gets LBBS really upset with the same results as
you.

> 2. My forwarding partner has upgraded his system to NNA 3.01. Although
>    our forwarding appears to be fine, I understand there is a potential
>    problem, and that a new version of LBBS has a fix. This *could* be a
>    fix for the suspect FBB Compressed Forwarding rather than
>    specifically for NNA though.

Is there a newer version of LBBS, I asked Darryl a while back when the
flock() problem cropped up and he was working on it then but I've heard
nothing since.

As Jonathan says, there will be a Linux version of FBB, which is in beta
now and rather good already. Some nice perl scripts and shared newspools
should be possible.

Cheers, Martin.
--
 Martin Vernon, Sysop GB7OS/GB7OSP, Chairman GCPG, IP Co-ordinator N. Wales
 GW6HVA@GB7OSP, [e-mail],  e-mail:  [e-mail]
     Voice/SMS/Ans  [phone]   Data: GB7OSP 8N1 [phone]
       http://warp.gb7osp.ampr.org  or  http://www.gw6hva.demon.co.uk


From [e-mail] Sat Nov 16 17:18:26 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Bruce Gaskamp)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Looking for K4ABT
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Can anyone out there help me to locate this person.   I'm trying to locate him

on e-mail, if he has an address?    His info can be found on the QRZ database.

He goes by "Buck Rogers" and I think he writes articles for CQ magazine.
I've struck out on finding him on e-mail.   There's another thing I could use
some help on is how to find out someones e-mail address if  you don't know
what it is already.   Is there a "white pages" on the internet similiar to
like ham radio has?   If possible, I'd like to know where this site is.

Thanks for the help and 73's to all
Bruce - KB5MRP


From [e-mail] Sat Nov 16 17:18:29 1996
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From: Rick Szpyrka <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: Looking for K4ABT
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Bruce Gaskamp wrote:
>
> Can anyone out there help me to locate this person.   I'm trying to locate h
im
> on e-mail, if he has an address?    His info can be found on the QRZ databas
e.
> He goes by "Buck Rogers" and I think he writes articles for CQ magazine.
> I've struck out on finding him on e-mail.   There's another thing I could us
e
> some help on is how to find out someones e-mail address if  you don't know
> what it is already.   Is there a "white pages" on the internet similiar to
> like ham radio has?   If possible, I'd like to know where this site is.
>
> Thanks for the help and 73's to all
> Bruce - KB5MRP

K4ABT's email address is [e-mail]

73 Rick WB8TIF
--
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Bloomfield Hills, MI USA
Email: [e-mail] or [e-mail]
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From [e-mail] Sat Nov 16 17:18:29 1996
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From: Mike White <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: Morse Code BBSes?
Date: Fri, 15 Nov 1996 08:06:20 -0800
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Brent Corbin wrote:
>
> Mike White ([e-mail]) wrote:
> : Are there any Morse Code BBSes that exist?  An interface to JNOS
> : would be a rather cool thing...
> You're joking, right?
Not at all.  It'd be a great way to check mail from Field Day or
whatever.  I really don't want to lug my Laptop (or palm top) plus
tnc, etc, etc to to check my mail.  What'd be nice is to do is
just connect to the board, and read mail that way.  As a side thought,
those people who still have the C64's and the CW interface could
connect just like people with real TNCs.

> Actually, I suppose it could be done, along the lines of the CW robots on
> the RS birds, but heck - might as well use 45b rtty 8*)

Does anybody know if there is source code for the robots?

On a side note: can one hook an ascii terminal up to JNOS and access
the command line from there?

Cheers-
  -Mike


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From: Mike White <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: Morse Code BBSes?
Date: Fri, 15 Nov 1996 08:17:43 -0800
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Gary Coffman wrote:
>
> In article <[e-mail]> Mike White <[e-mail]> writes:
> >Are there any Morse Code BBSes that exist?  An interface to JNOS
> >would be a rather cool thing...
>
> It might force some amateurs to clean
> up their ragged fists too. I'd like to see this work in a
> CSMA network, it should be a hoot. And imagine hand keying
> the TCP/IP header on every packet and doing the CRC in your
> head. Heh, heh, yeah, a riot.
Actually, that'd be kind of neat (in a bizzare, twisted sort of way)
to see working in action... and pretty simple to implement.  Yank out
the modem, and drop in a Morse Code Modulatator/Demodulator.  Not
to useful for most humans, but I would imagine a few people could
interface that way.

> On a slightly more serious note, the russian hamsats have
> a robot QSO generator which works with Morse, so the idea
> isn't totally impossible, just a huge step backwards.
Or sidewards.  Heck, right now the area that I'm in has minimal
(as in 0) traffic; modes are modes, it'd be nice to have a few
new users around!

Cheers-
  -Mike


From [e-mail] Sat Nov 16 17:18:33 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Gary Coffman)
Subject: Re: Morse Code BBSes?
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
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In article <[e-mail]> Mike White <[e-mail]> writes:
>Are there any Morse Code BBSes that exist?  An interface to JNOS
>would be a rather cool thing...
>  -Mike

Heh, heh. Now there's a thought. There's no speed limitation on
OOK Morse on HF amateur radio. Instead of poking along at 300
baud, we could have Morse BBS systems relaying traffic at
1000 WPM in machine Morse. Of course we'd need a really good
CNR to get away with that using OOK. High power amplifiers and
big antenna arrays would be de rigor.

It'd be ugly, inefficient, and backward, IE just what amateurs
seem to like, lets do it.

Or, more mundanely, we could add a user interface to our BBS
systems that used manual OOK Morse. That'd limit throughput
to under 20 WPM on average (probably *way* under 20 WPM), and
relieve a lot of the load on the forwarding system due to the
reduction in traffic. It might force some amateurs to clean
up their ragged fists too. I'd like to see this work in a
CSMA network, it should be a hoot. And imagine hand keying
the TCP/IP header on every packet and doing the CRC in your
head. Heh, heh, yeah, a riot.

On a slightly more serious note, the russian hamsats have
a robot QSO generator which works with Morse, so the idea
isn't totally impossible, just a huge step backwards.

Gary
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es
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Subject: Re: Morse Code BBSes?
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In message <[e-mail]> Mike White wrote:

> Are there any Morse Code BBSes that exist?  An interface to JNOS
> would be a rather cool thing...

Not that I know of.  But for the luddite who will not have a computer
in the shack, I have seen RX only TNCs which monitor the local DX
cluster and relay the spots in Morse Code !

73, Gareth.



From [e-mail] Sat Nov 16 17:18:35 1996
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Are there any Morse Code BBSes that exist?  An interface to JNOS
would be a rather cool thing...
  -Mike

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From: "fiorito" <[e-mail]>
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Subject: pk900 x ic820h
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I want to connect a pk900 + ic820h

thank,s in advance for any info

          73  from PY1WOO (J. M. FIORITO)


From [e-mail] Sat Nov 16 17:18:36 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Claude Frantz)
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Subject: reading CW
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What is the best device to read CW (the human excepted) ?
--
Claude
([e-mail])
The opinions expressed above represent those of the writer
and not necessarily those of her employer.


From [e-mail] Sat Nov 16 17:18:37 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Gary Coffman)
Subject: Re: reading CW
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In article <stefans.847786995@bauv111> [e-mail] w
rites:
>What is the best device to read CW (the human excepted) ?

Try fftmorse, available on the usual ftp sites. It uses your
soundblaster card to sample receiver audio. A FFT is used to
find the Morse signal, and a simple speed adaptive algorithm
turns that into text.

The program uses fairly crude algorithms, the FFT binning is
crude, the threshold slicer isn't adaptive, and the element
to Morse algorithm is only adaptive to speed, but full C source
comes with it, so you can jazz it up as much as you like.

None of the commercially available decoder boxes I've tried
do a good job on human sent code because the only adaptation
they do is for sending speed. Most of the programs out there
use a *first* match algorithm to decode Morse, using a static
lookup table. That doesn't do a good job on ragged fists.

What you really want is a program which "copies behind" and
strives for *best match* over a number of code elements. This
involves a cross correlation algorithm running concurrently with
a trellis-like decoding matrix whose weighting is constantly
updated as the program learns the sending style of the person
being received.

This is somewhat similar to the approach used in chess programs
to search out a move strategy. (There are probably more elegant
approaches, but today's PCs have enough horsepower to make this
one fly.) I'd like to see more effort put into this because machine
Morse decoders don't have to be as bad as they are.

Gary
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From [e-mail] Sat Nov 16 17:18:39 1996
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From: [e-mail] (KW5Q)
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Subject: Sound Blaster 16 Spectral display & Filtering FREEWARE
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I have uploaded to Simtel.Net:

http://www.simtel.net/pub/simtelnet/msdos/hamradio/sbfft11.zip
ftp://ftp.simtel.net/pub/simtelnet/msdos/hamradio/sbfft11.zip   1032518 bytes

sbfft11.zip     Sound Blaster spectral display and filtering

Features:
 * Sound Blaster 16 (or 100% compatible) input and output.
 * Band widths of 2K, 4K, 8K or 16K Hz.
 * Spectral resolutions of 1 Hz to 16 Hz per pixel.
 * Display of power spectral density with any of 4 color maps in either
    linear or logarithmic scale.
 * Define and use as many as to six filters simultaneously -- band pass,
    band stop, low pass, and high pass.
 * Filters are defined graphically by mouse movement based upon
    the displayed spectrum.  Once you see a signal, you can
    quickly define a pass or stop filter around the signal by clicking
    and dragging the mouse.
 * Net filter passband is displayed at all times.
 * Filters can be selectively enabled and disabled by a single
    keystroke.

Special requirements: DOS 3.0 or higher, SB16 or 100% compatible, SVGA,
                      VESA modes 101, 105, mouse.

Copyrighted Freeware.  Uploaded by the author.

Kevin - KW5Q

[e-mail]

$$e^{-\frac12 K^2} \frac d{dK} e^{\frac12 K^2}e^{\sqrt{in}}$$
Kevin McWilliams
KW5Q
Applied Mathematician



From [e-mail] Sat Nov 16 17:18:40 1996
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Subject: Re: Sound Blaster 16 Spectral display & Filtering FREEWARE
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Sounds good!
http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/5860
kc6wfs

KW5Q wrote:
>
> I have uploaded to Simtel.Net:
>
> http://www.simtel.net/pub/simtelnet/msdos/hamradio/sbfft11.zip
> ftp://ftp.simtel.net/pub/simtelnet/msdos/hamradio/sbfft11.zip   1032518 byte
s
>
> sbfft11.zip     Sound Blaster spectral display and filtering
>
> Features:
>  * Sound Blaster 16 (or 100% compatible) input and output.
>  * Band widths of 2K, 4K, 8K or 16K Hz.
>  * Spectral resolutions of 1 Hz to 16 Hz per pixel.
>  * Display of power spectral density with any of 4 color maps in either
>     linear or logarithmic scale.
>  * Define and use as many as to six filters simultaneously -- band pass,
>     band stop, low pass, and high pass.
>  * Filters are defined graphically by mouse movement based upon
>     the displayed spectrum.  Once you see a signal, you can
>     quickly define a pass or stop filter around the signal by clicking
>     and dragging the mouse.
>  * Net filter passband is displayed at all times.
>  * Filters can be selectively enabled and disabled by a single
>     keystroke.
>
> Special requirements: DOS 3.0 or higher, SB16 or 100% compatible, SVGA,
>                       VESA modes 101, 105, mouse.
>
> Copyrighted Freeware.  Uploaded by the author.
>
> Kevin - KW5Q
>
> [e-mail]
>
> $$e^{-\frac12 K^2} \frac d{dK} e^{\frac12 K^2}e^{\sqrt{in}}$$
> Kevin McWilliams
> KW5Q
> Applied Mathematician


From [e-mail] Sat Nov 16 17:18:41 1996
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From: [e-mail] (KW5Q)
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Subject: Sound Blaster Spectral Display & Filtering FREEWARE
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I have uploaded to Simtel.Net:

http://www.simtel.net/pub/simtelnet/msdos/hamradio/sbfft11.zip
ftp://ftp.simtel.net/pub/simtelnet/msdos/hamradio/sbfft11.zip   1032518 bytes

sbfft11.zip     Sound Blaster spectral display and filtering

Features:
 * Sound Blaster 16 (or 100% compatible) input and output.
 * Band widths of 2K, 4K, 8K or 16K Hz.
 * Spectral resolutions of 1 Hz to 16 Hz per pixel.
 * Display of power spectral density with any of 4 color maps in either
    linear or logarithmic scale.
 * Define and use as many as to six filters simultaneously -- band pass,
    band stop, low pass, and high pass.
 * Filters are defined graphically by mouse movement based upon
    the displayed spectrum.  Once you see a signal, you can
    quickly define a pass or stop filter around the signal by clicking
    and dragging the mouse.
 * Net filter passband is displayed at all times.
 * Filters can be selectively enabled and disabled by a single
    keystroke.

Special requirements: DOS 3.0 or higher, SB16 or 100% compatible, SVGA,
                      VESA modes 101, 105, mouse.

Copyrighted Freeware.  Uploaded by the author.

Kevin - KW5Q

[e-mail]

$$e^{-\frac12 K^2} \frac d{dK} e^{\frac12 K^2}e^{\sqrt{in}}$$
Kevin McWilliams
KW5Q
Applied Mathematician



From [e-mail] Sat Nov 16 17:18:42 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Alex Evonosky)
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Subject: soundblaster cw?
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                Anyone know of shareware sotware that will decode cw
using the soundblaster?
Please let me know.
Thank You in advance.
de kb4lbx/alex
73



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From: [e-mail] (Alex Evonosky)
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        One more,  The software is to workw/ win95 and pentium.
Thank You, 73



                                73,
                           Alex - KB4LBX
                          [e-mail]

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From: [e-mail] (Alex Evonosky)
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Subject: soundblaster rtty?
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Does anyone know of a freeware program that can decode rtty for
receive only using the soundblaster?  Please let me know.
Thank You and best 73
Alex-KB4LBX



From [e-mail] Sat Nov 16 17:18:44 1996
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From: fiz <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Stuck setting up Linux for AX25
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Hi,

I've been trying to set up AX25 in Linux and have ran into a brickwall.
I'm following the AX25-HOWTO (dated 14 June 96) and have gotten to step
6. I have an /etc/ax25/axports file with the first line

145     KG0YG-1 1200    255     2       145.770

and type

axattach /dev/ttyS1 145

At this point I get the message

AX.25 port 145 bound to device sl0

So far so good. The next step is to try to make a connection using
'call'. I type

call 145 WK3S

Now I get the following messages:

axconfig: port 145 not active
call: no AX.25 port data configured

aaarrrggg, any ideas?

ttfn fiz (KG0YG)


From [e-mail] Sat Nov 16 17:18:45 1996
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From: [e-mail] (John Boyer)
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Subject: Re: Stuck setting up Linux for AX25
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fiz ([e-mail]) wrote:
Loads of stuff deleted....

If I remember rightly you have to have a nrports file to use vanilla AX25.
That is netrom ports.

I can't remember the format. Maybe it's the same as axports.
The axports file is for tcpip.

If you need more help I'll bring my configuration files in.

Regards J.



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From: [e-mail] (Victor V Voronkov)
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Subject: Re: Stuck setting up Linux for AX25
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fiz ([e-mail]) wrote:
> Hi,

> I've been trying to set up AX25 in Linux and have ran into a brickwall.
> I'm following the AX25-HOWTO (dated 14 June 96) and have gotten to step
> 6. I have an /etc/ax25/axports file with the first line

> 145   KG0YG-1 1200    255     2       145.770

> and type

> axattach /dev/ttyS1 145

> At this point I get the message

> AX.25 port 145 bound to device sl0

> So far so good. The next step is to try to make a connection using
> 'call'. I type

> call 145 WK3S

> Now I get the following messages:

> axconfig: port 145 not active
> call: no AX.25 port data configured

> aaarrrggg, any ideas?

> ttfn fiz (KG0YG)

after axattach you need type
ifconfig sl0 ip_address_of_sl0

If you use script:
axattach /dev/ttyS1 145
sleep 2
ifconfig sl0 ip_address

73! de RX3DIN  Victor


From [e-mail] Sat Nov 16 17:18:47 1996
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From: [e-mail] (John Boyer)
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Victor V Voronkov ([e-mail]) wrote:
 sone stuff deleted:----
: ifconfig sl0 ip_address_of_sl0
:

I forgot about that. I've only set it up the once. I left it alone when it was

working.

I still think he needs the nrports file as  well though.
J.



From [e-mail] Sat Nov 16 17:18:48 1996
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From: "Steven R. Sampson" <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: Stuck setting up Linux for AX25
Date: Wed, 13 Nov 1996 13:33:23 -0600
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fiz wrote:
>
> I'm still trying but haven't gotten it figured out yet. I forgot a
> couple things in the original post. I have Linux 2.0.0 and I think the
> ax25 utils are 2.0.12 (whatever the current version is).

Might as well upgrade your kernel first, and then download the new
AX.25 stuff.

Welcome to the "bronco-Ax.25-trip-to-hell!"

Sure makes CPM look like an advanced operating system...

Steve


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From: fiz <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: Stuck setting up Linux for AX25
Date: Wed, 13 Nov 1996 20:11:26 -0700
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fiz wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I've been trying to set up AX25 in Linux and have ran into a brickwall.
> I'm following the AX25-HOWTO (dated 14 June 96) and have gotten to step
> 6. I have an /etc/ax25/axports file with the first line
>
> 145     KG0YG-1 1200    255     2       145.770
>
> and type
>
> axattach /dev/ttyS1 145
>
> At this point I get the message
>
> AX.25 port 145 bound to device sl0
>
> So far so good. The next step is to try to make a connection using
> 'call'. I type
>
> call 145 WK3S
>
> Now I get the following messages:
>
> axconfig: port 145 not active
> call: no AX.25 port data configured
>
> aaarrrggg, any ideas?
>
> ttfn fiz (KG0YG)


Hi,

I've tracked the problem down to ax25-utils-2.0.12 and Linux 2.0.0. They
don't play well together. I found ax25-utils-2.0.12a and immediately got
it to work. Maybe the keeper-o-the-howto could put a pointer to the
ax25-utils part of the HOWTO to a more useful site than sunsite and
ftp.inka.de, ie

http://www.cs.nott.ac.uk/~jsn/

ttfn fiz (KG0YG)


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From: fiz <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: Stuck setting up Linux for AX25
Date: Wed, 13 Nov 1996 11:00:13 -0800
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John Boyer wrote:
>
> Victor V Voronkov ([e-mail]) wrote:
>  sone stuff deleted:----
> : ifconfig sl0 ip_address_of_sl0
> :
>
> I forgot about that. I've only set it up the once. I left it alone when it w
as
> working.
>
> I still think he needs the nrports file as  well though.
> J.


Hi,

I'm still trying but haven't gotten it figured out yet. I forgot a
couple things in the original post. I have Linux 2.0.0 and I think the
ax25 utils are 2.0.12 (whatever the current version is).

I have a nrports file but editing it doesn't seem to make any
difference. I don't have netrom support compiled into the kernel, and
can't figure out how to load it as a module (probably because it was
never compiled as a module either).

I do want to set up TCP eventually but have to get Linux talking to the
radio first. Adding an ip address to either the ifconfig or axattach
commands doesn't seem to make any difference.

I'm still getting 'axconfig: port 145 not active' when I try to connect
to another system with 'call 145 WK3S'. port '145' is defined in
/etc/ax25/axports. I'm wondering if the problem is Linux isn't seeing
the TNC, maybe because of an unknown irq conflict, or the TNC not setup
correctly, or _____ (fill in the blank with your favorite Linux
problem). Could someone try unplugging their TNC from the computer and
see if 'call your_port KG0YG' gives an error message like mine. I'm
wondering if the software sends a command to the TNC and is not getting
the expected answer back. Somewhat like sending 'AT' to a modem and not
getting 'OK' back.

still baffled,

ttfn fiz (KG0YG)


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From: Bob Nielsen <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: Stuck setting up Linux for AX25
Date: 14 Nov 1996 10:57:03 -0700
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fiz wrote:
>
> fiz wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > I've been trying to set up AX25 in Linux and have ran into a brickwall.
> > I'm following the AX25-HOWTO (dated 14 June 96) and have gotten to step
> > 6. I have an /etc/ax25/axports file with the first line
> >
> > 145     KG0YG-1 1200    255     2       145.770
> >
> > and type
> >
> > axattach /dev/ttyS1 145
> >
> > At this point I get the message
> >
> > AX.25 port 145 bound to device sl0
> >
> > So far so good. The next step is to try to make a connection using
> > 'call'. I type
> >
> > call 145 WK3S
> >
> > Now I get the following messages:
> >
> > axconfig: port 145 not active
> > call: no AX.25 port data configured
> >
> > aaarrrggg, any ideas?
> >
> > ttfn fiz (KG0YG)
>
> Hi,
>
> I've tracked the problem down to ax25-utils-2.0.12 and Linux 2.0.0. They
> don't play well together. I found ax25-utils-2.0.12a and immediately got
> it to work. Maybe the keeper-o-the-howto could put a pointer to the
> ax25-utils part of the HOWTO to a more useful site than sunsite and
> ftp.inka.de, ie
>

I believe that ax25-utils-2.0.12 requires kernel 2.0.12 or newer.

Bob

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From [e-mail] Sat Nov 16 17:18:53 1996
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From: Bob Nielsen <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: TNC EPROMS
Date: 7 Nov 1996 14:15:01 -0700
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David Cooley wrote:
>
> I hope this isn't a dumb question, but here goes...
> I have an AEA PK-90 and I am wondering if the code in EPROM is generic
> across all T.A.P.R. TNC-2 units, or if they are unit specific.
> If they are generic, or if there is an upgrade for the pk-90 any
> pointers and advice will be welcome.

The TAPR TNC-2 code is generic (some versions require 16K of RAM, others
require 32K).  Code used in many clones or near clones (MFJ1270, PacComm
Tiny-2, DRSI DPK-2, for example) is interchangeable.  As far as I know,
the only AEA unit which uses compatible code is the PK-80.  The PK-88
and later use proprietary code by AEA.  The PK-90 was not sold for
amateur use and I don't have knowledge about that model.  You can
probably find out by contacting AEA.

Bob

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On 1996-11-07 [e-mail] said:
   >Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
   >Clemm Coulter wrote:
   >> Hello and tnx for any help in advance;
   >> I am trying to locate software to use with my PacComm Spirit=2
   >>(9600  baud packet).
   >You can try paKet or SP.  Paket will work with your existing
   >firmware, but uses separate screens for the different functions
   >(chosen with the F keys).  SP requires WA8DED or TheFirmware eproms,
   >or can be used wtih the TNC in KISS mode by running the TFKISS TSR.
..snip...

ALSO don't forget TSTHOST !!!  This has seperate receive/smit windows (split
screen), supports up to 8 simultanious connects, sports a built in full
function personal mailbbox, and large scroll-back buffers for received text.
 LOTS of other features too!  As above, it requires either WA8DED e-proms or
a KISSable TNC.  (I'm running TSTHOST with WA8DED E-PROMS in my lowly
TNC-1...and it works FB).

Joe Burnham (Email to [e-mail]) <===preferred
>> or << [e-mail]

Net-Tamer V 1.07X; Beta - Test Drive



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In message <562ji1$[e-mail]>
        [e-mail] writes:



> On 1996-11-07 [e-mail] said:
>    >Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
>    >Clemm Coulter wrote:
>    >> Hello and tnx for any help in advance;
>    >> I am trying to locate software to use with my PacComm Spirit=2
>    >>(9600  baud packet).
>    >You can try paKet or SP.  Paket will work with your existing
>    >firmware, but uses separate screens for the different functions
>    >(chosen with the F keys).  SP requires WA8DED or TheFirmware eproms,
>    >or can be used wtih the TNC in KISS mode by running the TFKISS TSR.
> ..snip...

> ALSO don't forget TSTHOST !!!  This has seperate receive/smit windows (split
> screen), supports up to 8 simultanious connects, sports a built in full
> function personal mailbbox, and large scroll-back buffers for received text.
>  LOTS of other features too!  As above, it requires either WA8DED e-proms or
> a KISSable TNC.  (I'm running TSTHOST with WA8DED E-PROMS in my lowly
> TNC-1...and it works FB).

> Joe Burnham (Email to [e-mail]) <===preferred
> >> or << [e-mail]

> Net-Tamer V 1.07X; Beta - Test Drive

Hi Folks,

Just to say that TSTHOST works very very well, and is the software I
have used for 2 plus years now.



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From: [e-mail] (Curtis D. Levin)
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On Sun, 10 Nov 1996 21:12:06 GMT, J Pallister <[e-mail]> wrote:
>> ALSO don't forget TSTHOST !!!  This has seperate receive/smit windows (spli
t
>> screen), supports up to 8 simultanious connects, sports a built in full
>> function personal mailbbox, and large scroll-back buffers for received text
.
>>  LOTS of other features too!  As above, it requires either WA8DED e-proms o
r
>> a KISSable TNC.  (I'm running TSTHOST with WA8DED E-PROMS in my lowly
>> TNC-1...and it works FB).

Also, if you run uder Os/2, there's Pr/2 for Os/2, and for you linuxers,
there's also TNT, both have same reqs as all the others. Tfkiss is
included in both packages, by the way. 73.

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From: [e-mail] (Peter Berrett)
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Subject: tnc2 - how to get in kiss mode?
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Hi all

I wish to try out the wintnc software that has been recently released
as well as try out a bit of tcpip.

The difficulty is that whilst tcpip etc is easy enough to get going on
baycom style modems i have difficulties with my tnc.

I have an mfj1270b tnc-2.

I have looked through the manual and searched the internet to no avail.
I know that there is a command 'kiss on' which is supposed to put the
tnc into kiss mode however it seems to stay in command mode.

When I run the wintnc software it does not recognise any packets being
received by the tnc. I have configured the software correctly to a kiss
compatible tnc however unlike the baycom it does not recognise any
packets.

When I run tpk I can still see packets coming up on the screen so they
are coming ok. And the wintnc parameters seem to be correct with
regards to speed of connection to tnc (9600) etc.

It seems the tnc is not kicking correctly intop kiss mode.

How can I tell my tnc to go into kiss mode. Is there some sort of
initialisation string (there is a space for this in wintnc) that I can
use to put it into kiss mode?

Hoping someone can help

cheers Peter vk3kat



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You might have to give it the command to go to KISS mode and then do a
soft reset.  That's how my KAM Plus does it, though the manual didn't
explain it that way.

Alan


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From: Dave Maciorowski <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: tnc2 - how to get in kiss mode?
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Peter Berrett wrote:
>
> Hi all
>
> I wish to try out the wintnc software that has been recently released
> as well as try out a bit of tcpip.
>
> The difficulty is that whilst tcpip etc is easy enough to get going on
> baycom style modems i have difficulties with my tnc.
>
> I have an mfj1270b tnc-2.
>
> I have looked through the manual and searched the internet to no avail.
> I know that there is a command 'kiss on' which is supposed to put the
> tnc into kiss mode however it seems to stay in command mode.[snip]

I had the same problem with my MFJ-1270B.  It turns out that you need
version 1.1.8 or newer to have the KISS support.  You can download it
from http://www.tapr.org/ in the Software Library and burn the EPROM
yourself, or order a V1.1.9 EPROM from TAPR at 817-383-0000.

There is also a KISS-only EPROM for the TNC2.

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  Serving Colorado with Voice and Data, 6-Meters to 1.2 Gig

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From: Bob Nielsen <[e-mail]>
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Peter Berrett wrote:
>
> Hi all
>
> I wish to try out the wintnc software that has been recently released
> as well as try out a bit of tcpip.
>
> The difficulty is that whilst tcpip etc is easy enough to get going on
> baycom style modems i have difficulties with my tnc.
>
> I have an mfj1270b tnc-2.
>
> I have looked through the manual and searched the internet to no avail.
> I know that there is a command 'kiss on' which is supposed to put the
> tnc into kiss mode however it seems to stay in command mode.
>
> When I run the wintnc software it does not recognise any packets being
> received by the tnc. I have configured the software correctly to a kiss
> compatible tnc however unlike the baycom it does not recognise any
> packets.
>
> When I run tpk I can still see packets coming up on the screen so they
> are coming ok. And the wintnc parameters seem to be correct with
> regards to speed of connection to tnc (9600) etc.
>
> It seems the tnc is not kicking correctly intop kiss mode.
>
> How can I tell my tnc to go into kiss mode. Is there some sort of
> initialisation string (there is a space for this in wintnc) that I can
> use to put it into kiss mode?
>
> Hoping someone can help


In addition to "kiss on"  you need to issue the command "restart".
Three LEDs shoulc blink three times, indicating that it is in KISS mode.

Some of the versions of MFJ (and TAPR) firmware have a potential problem
that if you have set up anything other than the default KISS parameters,
they will reset to the defaults after a few minutes of no signals being
received.  Replacements are available from TAPR (1.1.9 eproms or if you
can burn your own, 1.1.8a is freely available for download from
www.tapr.org or ftp.tapr.org.)  Or you can use a dedicated KISS eprom,
if you only use software that requires KISS.  These are also available
from TAPR.

If you just use the defaults, your current firmware should work.

Bob

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From: [e-mail] (Tedd Doda)
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In message <564o00$[e-mail]> - [e-mail] (Peter Berrett
)
 writes:
:>
:>
:>Hi all
:>
:>I wish to try out the wintnc software that has been recently released
:>as well as try out a bit of tcpip.
:>
:>The difficulty is that whilst tcpip etc is easy enough to get going on
:>baycom style modems i have difficulties with my tnc.
:>
:>I have an mfj1270b tnc-2.
:>
:>I have looked through the manual and searched the internet to no avail.

After giving the command "kiss on". send the command "restart". This will
reset the TNC in kiss mode.

73,

Tedd Doda, CET
(Lazer Audio and Electronics/ Baden, Ont. Canada)
packet va3sed@va3sed ******* Running FBB  under Warp Connect!
e-mail [e-mail]** Running the IAK in Warp Connect!
[Team OS/2 in Canada]



From [e-mail] Sat Nov 16 17:19:03 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Curtis D. Levin)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: tnc2 - how to get in kiss mode?
Date: 11 Nov 1996 18:02:49 GMT
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On 10 Nov 1996 14:14:24 GMT, Peter Berrett <[e-mail]> wrote:
>I have an mfj1270b tnc-2.
>
>I have looked through the manual and searched the internet to no avail.
>I know that there is a command 'kiss on' which is supposed to put the
>tnc into kiss mode however it seems to stay in command mode.

Normally, and I say normally, because I have a kpc-3, the tnc must be put
into kiss mode with the INterface kiss command. If your tnc uses kiss on,
then that's what should do it. However, after the tnc is put into kiss
mode, it requires a reset. There should be a reset, or a restart command
for the tnc. Try reset first, and if it doesn't work, resort to the
manual. Look in the manual index for Kiss Mode, and/or wait for someone
out here to reply who also has an MFj. 73.

--
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| Curtis D. Levin   | Team Os/2 | [e-mail]  |
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From [e-mail] Sat Nov 16 17:19:04 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Jon Eyes)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: tnc2 - how to get in kiss mode?
Date: Wed, 13 Nov 1996 21:00:36 GMT
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[e-mail] (Tedd Doda) wrote:

>In message <564o00$[e-mail]> - [e-mail] (Peter Berret
t)
> writes:
>:>
>:>
>:>Hi all
>:>
>:>I wish to try out the wintnc software that has been recently released
>:>as well as try out a bit of tcpip.
>:>
>:>The difficulty is that whilst tcpip etc is easy enough to get going on
>:>baycom style modems i have difficulties with my tnc.
>:>
>:>I have an mfj1270b tnc-2.
>:>
>:>I have looked through the manual and searched the internet to no avail.

>After giving the command "kiss on". send the command "restart". This will
>reset the TNC in kiss mode.

>73,

>Tedd Doda, CET
>(Lazer Audio and Electronics/ Baden, Ont. Canada)
>packet va3sed@va3sed ******* Running FBB  under Warp Connect!
>e-mail [e-mail]** Running the IAK in Warp Connect!
>[Team OS/2 in Canada]

I have a usefull little program called SETKISS, which will drop most
TNCs in and out of KISS mode from the DOS prompt.
It only works with standard IRQs on the commports though!
I can post it on to anyone that wants it.
--
Jon Eyes.
G7OMN@GB7LEN.#16.GBR.EU
Southport, Merseyside. UK.



From [e-mail] Sat Nov 16 17:19:05 1996
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From: Alexander Parkinson <[e-mail]>
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Hi

Try issuing the following line commands to MFJ TNC 2:

> param ax0 kiss on   enters KISS mode

> param ax0 restart   TNC control turned over to computer

> param ax0 255       exits KISS mode, control returned to TNC

73 de Alexander VE4APN




From [e-mail] Sat Nov 16 17:19:06 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Daugherty)
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hello

       I'm  looking to start a MOO on packet and I need to know how to set
up tnos for it. The moo requires telnet and i need to know how to configure
it so i can telnet back into my machine. thanks

todd N9OGL



From [e-mail] Sat Nov 16 17:19:08 1996
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From: [e-mail](Gerald Schmitt )
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: TS-690S Tx Audio Problem w/TNC
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In <[e-mail]> scott <[e-mail]> writes:
>
>Anybody experience the following with the Kenwood TS-690s (and I
presume
>the 450S would be the same):
>
>I connect my radio to my MFJ-1278 All Mode TNC via the ACC2 (13 pin)
jack
>provided on the back of the rig.  If I am using the TNC with the
radio,
>everything seems to work peachy.  If I leave the radio connected to
the
>TNC and use the front panel Microphone connector for SSB, I get
reports
>of distorted audio.  If I disconnect the TNC Cable, audio reports are
>excellent.  If anyone has come across this, AND A FIX, please let me
in
>on it.  I love the radio, but connecting and disconnecting the TNC all

>the time SUCKS!  73, Scott, N0EDV.
>
>--
>Gotta FLY or gonna Die !
>    Ask me about my
> Aeronca Super Chief !
>
>--
>Gotta FLY or gonna Die !
>    Ask me about my
> Aeronca Super Chief !

The problem is that the audio impedence as seen by the mike and TNC are
about the same. One fix that works if you have enough audio drive is to
put a few K resistor in the audio drive line from the TNC and then
adjust up the audio output of the TNC to compensate. This presents a
much greater impedence to the mike from the TNC and you don't put half
your mike output into the TNC audio out circuit. Before starting you
might check if the MFJ audio out can be driven hard enough to do this.


                                Good Luck 73

                                Jerry KK5YY



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From: [e-mail] (Dick Kriss)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: TS-690S/450S Tx Audio Problem w/TNC :-(
Date: Mon, 11 Nov 1996 13:10:40 -0600
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> In <[e-mail]> scott <[e-mail]> writes:
> >
> >Anybody experience the following with the Kenwood TS-690s (and I
> presume
> >the 450S would be the same):
> >
> >I connect my radio to my MFJ-1278 All Mode TNC via the ACC2 (13 pin)
> jack
> >provided on the back of the rig.  If I am using the TNC with the
> radio,
> >everything seems to work peachy.  If I leave the radio connected to
> the
> >TNC and use the front panel Microphone connector for SSB, I get
> reports
> >of distorted audio.  If I disconnect the TNC Cable, audio reports are
> >excellent.  If anyone has come across this, AND A FIX, please let me
> in
> >on it.  I love the radio, but connecting and disconnecting the TNC all
>
> >the time SUCKS!  73, Scott, N0EDV.
> >

The problem is a latent defect in the Kenwood radio design. Forget about
working AFSK and go for a FSK hookup and you can get around the problem.

Been there, done that and it is waste of your time and effort to contact
Kenwood. No problems in FSK...never could get AFSK to work and AEA does
not even show a PK-232 AFSK hookup. They recommend FSK...and I learned
why the hard way.

Dick, KD5VU
[e-mail]
[e-mail]


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Will Traditional Radio Work On The Web? - Washington Post

Find this article at:

NewsLinx Daily Web News

http://www.newslinx.com/


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From: [e-mail] (Jon Eyes)
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Subject: Winpack, YAPP & KPC4
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I am having problems with YAPP transfers with a KPC4 that I have
recently acquired.
This is the scenario,   during an outgoing Yapp transfer the PC will
send 2750 bytes to the tnc. That will be sent by the tnc to the
recipient.
Next the PC will top up the buffers, by sending a further 1500 bytes
to the tnc.  A short while after that, I will get an error msg that
reads:

`The YAPP transfer has failed. Error msg is "Cancel" was received from
the sender'

It seems that the bbs is reporting a checksum error in one of the
received packets. I am unable to ascertain if this is in data from the
"top up" of the tnc buffer, or if it is corrupting data already rxd by
the tnc, during the top up.

The KPC4 is running v3.06 firmware, Winpack version is v5.53, the KPC
is running hardware hand shaking, with a fully wired serial lead,
CTS/RTS/DSR/DTR etc.

The parameter set used is basically the KAM set, with the unnecessary
commands removed.  Timing params are: MAXframe 4, PACLen of 128, the
streamsw characters are disabled.
I have tried various settings of paclen and maxframe, to no avail.

Winpack is running under Windows 95, on a 16550 UART serial port, at
4800 baud. I have also tried altering the buffering for the port, this
also made no difference.

Now am I missing something, or do I have a faulty KPC4?
Coz I've run out of ideas!   :-)

73 - Jon, G7OMN Remote sysop @ GB7LEN
   e-mail: [e-mail]

--
Jon Eyes.
Southport, Merseyside. UK.



From [e-mail] Sat Nov 16 17:19:13 1996
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From: Doug Wetzel <[e-mail]>
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I have a continuing need for the following tncs:

Kantronics KPC3  (Prefer Rev 6.0 GPS EPROM, but will take others)
PacComm Tiny-2
PacComm PicoPacket

If you have one of these units that you wish to sell, please contact me
prior to advertising with price, Prom version, and condition.

Thanks!

Doug
K7IP


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From: [e-mail] (Craig Stimson)
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Subject: Re: Y-connection to mic/TNC
Date: Sat, 09 Nov 1996 04:33:11 GMT
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[e-mail] wrote:


>>
>>Jerry, There is a neat digital switching solution to this, I expect the
>>best way to describe it in words is:-
>>Use a J-K flip flop in the latching mode, with resets coming in by diodes

>PMFJI, MFJ markets a tnc/mic switch for approx. 35US$ and has serveral models
 available
>based on type of radio/type of tnc. I just finished installing one between my
 Alinco

Greetings all,

Thought I would throw in my $.02 worth. I had a spare 25 pin data
switch kicking around. I built the neccessary adaptor cables (one 25
pin male D plug to male 9 pin D plug for the KPC-3, one 25 pin male D
plug to female 8 pin DIN for the ICOM-28H and another cable with a
male connector on the end to plug the desk mike into). It worked out
pretty good, all I had to do was purchase the 8 pin connectors!

So there ya go....

73
Craig

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+  Craig Stimson                                                          +
+  E-mail: [e-mail]                                   +
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From [e-mail] Mon Nov 25 18:45:17 1996
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From: Michael J Wooding <[e-mail]>
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In article <[e-mail]>, John Morris
<[e-mail]> writes
>> Darryl is *very* difficult to contact, and does not offer good support for
>> his BBS which is unacceptable,

Perhaps you should provide one then - out of your own pocket of course
and in your own time!

Mike

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From [e-mail] Mon Nov 25 18:45:18 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Brent Corbin)
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Subject: Re: Morse Code BBSes?
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Mike White ([e-mail]) wrote:
: Are there any Morse Code BBSes that exist?  An interface to JNOS
: would be a rather cool thing...
:   -Mike

: --
: [e-mail]                       (v)715/833-8653
: N9UXC                         (f)715/833-2027

You're joking, right?

Actually, I suppose it could be done, along the lines of the CW robots on
the RS birds, but heck - might as well use 45b rtty 8*)



From [e-mail] Mon Nov 25 18:45:20 1996
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From: "Bob Dye" <[e-mail]>
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Well here is the list.  Most of this equipment was hardly ever used.  I am
getting out of many parts of ham radio concentrating on my UHF repeater and
links to it.  I will pay for shipping.  Please pass on this message to
others that
may be interested.  If you are on local packet please post it on the local
BBS.
Trying to generate revenue. Thank you for your time.

Bob
[e-mail]
561.552.3114 If no answer leave voice mail



MANUFACTURE   MODEL #             CONDITION & DESCRIPTION


MFJ                    VERSA TUNER V  GOOD


KENWOOD         TS690                   EXCELLENT, WITH INTERNAL ANT TUNER


AEA                    DSP-232               NEW IN BOX


YAESU                G-5400B               EXCELLENT, SEPARATOR KIT, 200'
CABLE

KIRON CORP       SATTRAK IV         HIGH ACC CLOCK,   TRACKING BOX








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From: Chuck Harrington <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: Winpack, YAPP & KPC4
Date: Thu, 14 Nov 1996 23:39:08 -0500
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Jon Eyes wrote:
>
> I am having problems with YAPP transfers with a KPC4 that I have
> recently acquired.

> Now am I missing something, or do I have a faulty KPC4?
> Coz I've run out of ideas!   :-)
>

I don't know, but you might try downloading Visual PacketPeT from my Web
sight below, and see what kind of results you have with the Yapp
transfer. Just a thought...

73 Chuck

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Visit WEB SIGHT  - http://www.gate.net/~paketpet
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From [e-mail] Mon Nov 25 18:45:22 1996
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Jimmy Navarro wrote:
>
> In article <01bbd141$bc5224c0$[e-mail]>,
> [e-mail] says...
> >
> >This is the Hamtpon Roads Radio Association web site you may be interested
> >in.  We are located in Norfolk Virginia.  Let me know what you think!
> >
> >Eric KE4KIK 73!
> >
> >http://www.infi.net/hrra
> How much do your ISP charge for home page?  I'd like to build a Web site for
> an open repeater club.  73!

Check out http://geocities.com
You can get "free" homepages there!!!
73....
--
Dave Booth kc6wfs
http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/5860/


From [e-mail] Mon Nov 25 18:45:23 1996
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From: [e-mail] (David Woolley)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: soundblaster cw?
Date: Sat, 16 Nov 1996 00:09:33 GMT
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In article <[e-mail]>,
Alex Evonosky <[e-mail]> wrote:
>               Anyone know of shareware sotware that will decode cw
>using the soundblaster?

No, but there is various freeware to do this.  Names include FFTMORSE and
DSPMORSE.  FFTMORSE won't work unpatched on the 8 bit SB Pro. Both are
supplied with source code.

Note that these programs only seem to be good for reasonably interference
free, non-fading signals.  Recovering morse of real HF bands is a difficult
problem.  I did try enhancing FFTMORSE a while ago, but only improved it
slightly.  I'll maybe try again, but on Linux, not DOS.  NB please state
the operating system when asking this sort of question, although it is a
reasonable assumption that Windows is a bad choice - you need DOS or a
pre-emptive multi-tasker, like Unix, and maybe NT.
--
David Woolley, London, England          [e-mail]
(Sending any email to this site constitutes a licence to copy it to any
company which might reasonably be assumed to have transported it or
might reasonably be assumed to service any addresses quoted in it. 15Sep1996)



From [e-mail] Mon Nov 25 18:45:24 1996
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From: "Arnold K." <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Need Notch Filter
Date: Fri, 15 Nov 1996 18:21:46 -0800
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Hi, and thanks for reading this message. I need a Tunable Notch Filter
for 2 Meters (144 MHz to 148 MHz). If anyone has one for sale or you
know where I could perchase one would you let me know where? Thank you
for your help.Please e-mail.

 73, Arnold  AA3HO       [e-mail]


From [e-mail] Mon Nov 25 18:45:24 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Rob Turner)
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Subject: looking to get a Hand held Ham Radio.
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looking to get a Hand held Ham Radio.
If there is anyone selling or giveing one away please email me.
adam turner
[e-mail]



From [e-mail] Mon Nov 25 18:45:25 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Rob Macedo)
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Subject: Ham Digital List
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add ham-digital



From [e-mail] Mon Nov 25 18:45:26 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Simon Quantrill)
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Subject: RE: LBBShelp
Date: 16 Nov 96 16:54:41 GMT
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Oh NO it looks like another one of those heated disscusions are
happning again.!!

Whether you pay money or not you can still air you point, however the
FACT is there is no LBBS source code and no backup support. If you want
to use it use it if you don`t then don`t!!.

I personally tried it and found it a pain in the ^&&* to set up with
no docs, so I trashed it in favour of nothing at all!! I do my mail
collecting manually! as I am not a BBS. So it don`t bother me one way
or the other. Lets not fill up this list with whimsical arguements it
puts me in a bad mood!!..

73..PS: If collpit had not released his source code where would we all be
to day ;)


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From [e-mail] Mon Nov 25 18:45:27 1996
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From: Bob Nielsen <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: IP Address
Date: 16 Nov 1996 10:39:02 -0700
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John Kesling wrote:
>
> David Kelly <[e-mail]> wrote:
>
> >Neal Zipper wrote:
> >>
> >> I am new to IP for ham radio and want to know if the address we receive
> >> from ampr.org are true Internet IP addresses or just for the ham Radio si
de
> >> of the routers? Any one know?
> >
> >Looks real to me. Try "nslookup" for yourself on your ISP.
> >This doesn't mean the nets are *really* connected (everywhere)
> >but the groundwork is done to make the connections.
> >
> >       nexgen: {1182} nslookup kr4iz
> >       Server:  spider.HiWAAY.net
> >       Address:  204.214.4.4
> >
> >       Name:    kr4iz.ampr.org
> >       Address:  44.98.24.79
> >
> >--
> >David Kelly N4HHE, [e-mail] (wk), [e-mail] (hm)
>
> Yep, that's right, ampr.org is a real fully registered domain.
>
> Most ampr.org addresses are not routed from packet to the
> wired side of the internet though.  The FCC rules put the
> responsibility for the content of packet transmissions on
> the first station to transmit them in the ham bands.  I would
> not want to run a wide open router knowing that at any time
> someone anyplace on the internet could send illegal (for
> amateur radio)  traffic to a node routed through me that
> could put my license in jeopardy.
>
> It is fairly straight forward to implement a router from
> wired internet to packet internet but until the rules
> change I don't think you'll see it happening very often.
>

It's also fairly easy to set up a gateway to accept only traffic from
44.xx originators or specific "trusted" hosts.

Bob

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From [e-mail] Mon Nov 25 18:45:28 1996
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From: "Matthew A. Erickson" <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: reading CW
Date: Sat, 16 Nov 1996 10:09:17 -0800
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Claude Frantz wrote:
>
> What is the best device to read CW (the human excepted) ?
> --
> Claude
> ([e-mail])
> The opinions expressed above represent those of the writer
> and not necessarily those of her employer.
Best CW reader I have ever used, was a Kantronics "The Interface",
CW/RTTY TNC. It had the best CW/RTTY algorythom, I have ever used.




From [e-mail] Mon Nov 25 18:45:29 1996
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From: "Matthew A. Erickson" <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: soundblaster cw?
Date: Sat, 16 Nov 1996 10:10:39 -0800
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Alex Evonosky wrote:
>
>                 Anyone know of shareware sotware that will decode cw
> using the soundblaster?
> Please let me know.
> Thank You in advance.
> de kb4lbx/alex
> 73
There is a Shareware ver. of the soundblaster CW software on QRZ CDrom,
also on some of the hamradio FTP sites.




From [e-mail] Mon Nov 25 18:45:31 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Gary Coffman)
Subject: Re: Morse Code BBSes?
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail] (Gary Coffman)
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In article <[e-mail]> Mike White <[e-mail]> writes:
>Gary Coffman wrote:
>>
>> In article <[e-mail]> Mike White <[e-mail]> writes:
>> >Are there any Morse Code BBSes that exist?  An interface to JNOS
>> >would be a rather cool thing...
>>
>> It might force some amateurs to clean
>> up their ragged fists too. I'd like to see this work in a
>> CSMA network, it should be a hoot. And imagine hand keying
>> the TCP/IP header on every packet and doing the CRC in your
>> head. Heh, heh, yeah, a riot.
>Actually, that'd be kind of neat (in a bizzare, twisted sort of way)
>to see working in action... and pretty simple to implement.  Yank out
>the modem, and drop in a Morse Code Modulatator/Demodulator.  Not
>to useful for most humans, but I would imagine a few people could
>interface that way.

It'd be a real case of John Henry versus the steam hammer all right.
It might spur some development of better Morse decoders, though,
so it wouldn't be all bad. As I noted in another post, the current
state of machine decoding of hand sent Morse is very far from what
is possible to achieve.

>> On a slightly more serious note, the russian hamsats have
>> a robot QSO generator which works with Morse, so the idea
>> isn't totally impossible, just a huge step backwards.
>Or sidewards.  Heck, right now the area that I'm in has minimal
>(as in 0) traffic; modes are modes, it'd be nice to have a few
>new users around!

Well, yeah, there's that. Any activity is better than none I suppose.
My fancy has been struck by the idea of very fast machine Morse for
HF forwarding, however. Machines already do a good job of decoding
machine sent Morse, and the rules don't put a speed limit on Morse
usage on HF. That's a possible way around the current 300 baud limit.
I recall some amateurs experimenting with this a few years ago, but
they weren't using an error detecting and correcting protocol, so
what they mostly got was garbage unless conditions were very good.

You're looking at a Morse signal that's nearly 12 kHz broad at
1000 WPM, however, and that'd be a nightmare on the bands. You
couldn't use a narrow filter (obviously), and even DSP couldn't
form a matched filter around the signal because it would be non-
uniform, and hence energy prediction algorithms wouldn't work.
And you'd need a very special CW transmitter to key that fast
too.

It's a pretty problem, and we might have to face it if we can't
get the HF digital rules reformed, but there are certainly more
efficient (and more friendly to other band users) ways to do high
speed data than OOK Morse.

Gary
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es
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From [e-mail] Mon Nov 25 18:45:32 1996
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From: "Brian E. Cauchi" <[e-mail]>
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Subject: FAX SSTV RTTY WEFAX with SoundBlaster: OK!
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Hello.
I've just updated my FTV program, which does FAX & SSTV using a SoundCard,
to decode Baudot using the same (FM) demodulation engine.

Here is a run down of the more interesting features:

(1) It keeps the demodulated signal in memory, so that the signal can be
analysed again at a different keying rate or polarity! Garbage can be
resampled on the fly, which means that minutes of received signals decoded
at the wrong baud rate or keying polarity are recovered, on the fly, while
still receiving.

(2) Keying rate and polarity are analysed automatically - standard baud
rates are automatically set following analysis.

(3) Tuning oscilloscope available at all times, without loss of copy.

(4) Program works in real time.

(5) I wrote it, and I love it - I myself can't believe it works so well!

Download your copy of FTV from my web site, at:
http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/2504

System requirements, and the standard features of FTV are described in the
following page:
http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/2504/ftv.htm

By the way, AM signals from low orbiting weather satellites are also
decoded - no extra interfaces needed. Demodulation mode is user selectable
in software.


Hope you all have a load of fun receiving 'words and pictures' - I hope to
get some feedback !

All the best from Brian, 9H1JS, on the Island of Malta.





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Subject: Re: Vibroplex web page up...
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Distribution:

Mitch, W4OA ([e-mail]) wrote:


: Mitch, WA4OSR <[e-mail]> wrote in article
: <[e-mail]>...
: > The Vibroplex web page is now up at-
: > http://www.vibroplex.com
: >
: > check it out, and give me your feedback...
: >

: oops, gave my wrong email address... correct address is:
: [e-mail]    or
: [e-mail]

: mitch, w4oa

Suggest retail prices for wach of the keys would be nice...
--
Jeff Maass       ([e-mail])      Amateur Radio K8ND
      USPSA/IPSC # L-1192   NROI/CRO          NW of Columbus Ohio


From [e-mail] Mon Nov 25 18:45:35 1996
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From: Nick <[e-mail]>
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Subject: PK-12
Date: Sat, 16 Nov 1996 15:16:09 -0500
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How much would a used or a used little PK-12 TNC go for?

Also, what are it's power requirements? (volts and amps)

Thanks,
Nick KF4BYA
[e-mail]


From [e-mail] Mon Nov 25 18:45:35 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Mike)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: Low cost 1.2GHz packet?
Date: 17 Nov 1996 01:00:34 -0500
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phil reed ([e-mail]) wrote:
: It occured to me that a way to build an inexpensive packet backbone link on
: 1.2GHz would be to take an existing 9600 baud 2M FM radio and run it into a
: Down East Microwave transverter. Is there any reason this wouldn't work?
:
I don't think this would be inexpensive unless you are on flat land or
are up above everybody else.  Otherwise you would need a lot more
transmitters inbetween.  We have a hard enough time running a 440
backbone up here bacause of the landscape.  It is a good idea though
since the frequency would be able to support higher speeds especially
if your backbone people decided to up the speed later when things start
getting cheaper/popular like the 56k modems.

Mike
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From [e-mail] Mon Nov 25 18:45:37 1996
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I would say:

   I am sorry I stated your apparent conflict of interest as
fact.

Simon

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>In article <01bb739f.8e9f00c0$[e-mail]>,
>   "James S. Kaplan" <[e-mail]> wrote:
>>ARRL lawyer to sue member
>>
>>The following is a copy of a message I received today from
>>ARRL General Counsel Christopher D. Imlay N3AKD:
>>
>>
>>To:       James S. Kaplan, KG7FU
>>Copies:   Mary Lou Brown, NM7N
>>          Terry Baun
>>          John Poray
>>Date:     July 16, 1996
>>Re:       Your article, SBE Chapter 124 Newsletter, July, 1996
>>**************************************************************
>>
>>     Jim, I have just finished reading your article in the July,
>>1996 Water Cooled Newsletter, page 6. In it, you argue that two of
>>my clients, the American Radio Relay League, Inc. and the Society
>>of Broadcast Engineers, Inc. should cooperate in certain government
>>relations projects, specifically spectrum protection. You note that
>>I serve as the General Counsel for both organizations. You then
>>jump from that argument to the following, which I quote:
>>
>>     If Mr. Imlay can't resolve HIS OWN conflicts of interest,
>>     perhaps both ARRL and SBE should be seeking more
>>     effective counsel. No offense Chris, but we have work to
>>     do. We should not only be sending a message to the FCC
>>     and Congress, but to other radio industries.
>>
>>                              (emphasis in original)
>>
>>It is not useful for me to educate you on the subject of your
>>article to correct the errors in it, and I do not intend to do so.
>>What I do intend, however, is for you to print a retraction, in
>>unambiguous terms, in a form acceptable to me, and to furnish to
>>me, in writing, an assurance that such will be printed in the next
>>Chapter Newsletter for Chapter 124. Failing that, I am going to sue
>>you in the District of Columbia for libel.
>>
>>     I have no intention of allowing you to falsely allege that I
>>have a conflict of interest in representing two of my best clients,
>>especially in an SBE publication. You are not entitled to damage my
>>reputation as a lawyer, which you have done in your article, or to
>>infer (without any basis at all) that I have violated the canons of
>>ethics governing attorneys, by which I govern my actions.
>>
>>     I will await your response.
>>
>>Chris Imlay, N3AKD
>>
>Great response! People need to express their thoughts and opinions without th
e threat
>of legal action!

>Dave
>[e-mail]

In the end people get the government they deserve.

Read "The Weapon Shops of Isher" by A.E. vanVogt

Simon



From [e-mail] Mon Nov 25 18:45:38 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Thierry Wautelet)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc,rec.radio.swap
Subject: Re: DRSI Packet Board Modem Chip (TCM1305JL)
Date: Sun, 17 Nov 1996 08:58:24 +0100
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In article <56abfr$[e-mail]>,
MakeMyDay <[e-mail]> wrote:

>Looking for a source for the TCM1305JL (or equivalent) modem chip.
>
>It is a 16-pin DIP.
>
>The folks at DRSI quit selling the board/parts 2 years ago after it was
>cloned in Europe, they say.
>
>Any help?
>
><MakeMyDay>
>

Hi,

That's a TCM3105 (not 1305) and it's a fairly standard
IC from TEXAS INSTRUMENTS that you should be able to
find at any good compoment shop I think.

Never heard abt clone board here ?. As far as I
remembered, they stop making and stocking them,
just doing batch on order.

Hope it help,
Thierry (ON7KL)


Email : [e-mail]
Ham : ON7KL                                           PowerMac User


From [e-mail] Mon Nov 25 18:45:39 1996
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From: Michael J Wooding <[e-mail]>
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In article <56hvqs$[e-mail]>, John Morris
<[e-mail]> writes
>Hey - watch that editing when you are quoting!
>
>I *did not* write anything apparently attributed to me above.
>
>John, GM4ANB

Apologies John - I did not notice the info automatically put on by my
software.

Mike

--
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From [e-mail] Mon Nov 25 18:45:40 1996
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From: [e-mail] (John Dundas)
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Subject: HELP..Mods for Maxon 150 UHF for 9K6 Packet
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Hello One and all,
    I am looking for mods for the Maxon 150 UHF radio for 9600 baud packet
use. If you have any information please drop me a line.

rgds John GM0OPS @ GB7SAN

or

[e-mail]



From [e-mail] Mon Nov 25 18:45:40 1996
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subscribe


From [e-mail] Mon Nov 25 18:45:41 1996
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From: [e-mail](MICHAEL J DRUM)
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Subject: Want Kenwood IF-10D Computer Interface.
Date: 17 Nov 1996 15:14:30 GMT
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Greetings,

I want to buy a Kenwood IF-10D Computer interface for my TS-60. If you
have one for sale please contact me at my Email address and let me know
the details. I will answer all reply's sent.

Thank You.

Mike>



From [e-mail] Mon Nov 25 18:45:42 1996
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From: [e-mail](MICHAEL J DRUM)
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Subject: Any mod info for Kenwood TS-60 Transceiver?
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Greetings,

I am looking for any mod info on the Kenwood TS-60 six meter all mode
transceiver. I was unable to get any applicable info from Kenwood's web
site on this transceiver, so I now turn to the internet for help.

Any info would be appreciated. All reply's will be answered.

Thanks.

Mike>



From [e-mail] Mon Nov 25 18:45:43 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Pete)
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Subject: Is there a need for TSTHOST info ???
Date: Mon, 18 Nov 1996 00:14:17 GMT
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Hello ALL

Are there many userers of TSTHOST out there ? Are there many addons
available for this software, servers etc ? Any info would be
appreciated !

Cheers..Peter..vk2yx
e-mail:[e-mail]


From [e-mail] Mon Nov 25 18:45:44 1996
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From: Raj Singh <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Help LPT CW interface
Date: Sun, 17 Nov 1996 17:46:01 -0800
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Hi and thanks for reading this. I hope you can help me figure this out.

I want to key the rig from the parallel port of the computer with a
logging program like CT. The rig is a Kenwood TS-830S which uses
negative keying. I built a K3KU type parallel interface which should key
both
positive and negative keyed rigs. When I attach everything, it
imediately keys the rig.

I don't know enough about transistors to figure this out on my own in
real life. If you are familiar with the CT manual. It calls for a PNP
and a NPN transistor. I am using a 2N5401 and a 2N5551.

Thanks in advance
Raj VE6RAJ


From [e-mail] Mon Nov 25 18:45:45 1996
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Subject: winpack with two bbs?
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it is possible to use two bbs with winpack ?
how?
Saludos



From [e-mail] Mon Nov 25 18:45:45 1996
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From: [e-mail]
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Subject: Help with WinPack V5.5
Date: Mon, 18 Nov 1996 06:13:28 -0500
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Is there any way to send control characters from the edit window in
WinPack?  I frequently need to send, for example, Control-A to abort
sending a message,  or Control-T to cancel a command while connected
to the BBS but WinPack apparently won't allow any characters preceded
by the "control" key to be transmitted.
Thanks in advance,
Gene WA4WBI    [e-mail]


From [e-mail] Mon Nov 25 18:45:46 1996
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From: Ian Wilson <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: PK232MBX & kiss mode
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Hi

I have been using a PK232mbx for packet for about a year now, using
Winpack as the driver.  Now this program is very good but I find it
limited in some areas.

So what I would like to do is to get the tnc into kiss mode so I can run
Superpacket.  I used to run this on a Baycom modem.

I have tried the command KISS ON, but I get absolutely no response from
the tnc.  I even have problems runing winpack with compressed
forwarding/downloading, setting the XFLOW command results in no text
comming back from the tnc.

Any clues would be appreciated.
--
Ian Wilson GM1XOG  @GB7SAN.#78.GBR.EU

Turnpike evaluation. For Turnpike information, mailto:[e-mail]


From [e-mail] Mon Nov 25 18:45:48 1996
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From: Dave Maciorowski <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: Latest firmware version for KPC-3?
Date: Mon, 18 Nov 1996 06:01:18 -0700
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Jason wrote:
>
> What is the latest version of firm ware for the KPC-3?
>
> Will 5.1 do GPS?
> If I have 5.1 what do I have to do for an upgrade.. How much $?
>
> Jason  N1RWY

I bet Kantronics would know :-)  Visit them at http://www.kantronics.com

-----
Dave Maciorowski, WA1JHK
Colorado Repeater Association, Inc.
  Serving Colorado with Voice and Data, 6-Meters to 1.2 Gig

Internet: [e-mail] or [e-mail]
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From [e-mail] Mon Nov 25 18:45:49 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Christopher K. Greenhalgh)
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Subject: Re: Latest firmware version for KPC-3?
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In article <[e-mail]> Dave Maciorowski <[e-mail]
m> writes:

>>
>> What is the latest version of firm ware for the KPC-3?

7.5 I believe. It does GPS and paging.

>> Will 5.1 do GPS?

No. 6.x is needed for built in support.

>> If I have 5.1 what do I have to do for an upgrade.. How much $?
>>
>> Jason  N1RWY

Contact Kantronics. I bought a 6.0 revision for only $20.00, after mailing my
old module back to them.

Take care.


Christopher K. Greenhalgh, N8WCT
Computer/Electronic Tech. II at The Ohio State University
E-Mail: [e-mail] ([e-mail])
AX.25 : n8wct@w8cqk.#cmh.oh.usa.noam


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Roland Stiner ([e-mail]) wrote:
: How do you get your messages to display from Juno onto Usenet?
       Pse SUBSCRIBE this UseNet-echo-conference --
73
                  De Anton, RV3DHc/RK3KPE


From [e-mail] Mon Nov 25 18:45:51 1996
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From: Clif <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: Any mod info for Kenwood TS-60 Transceiver?
Date: Mon, 18 Nov 1996 08:36:29 -0600
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MICHAEL J DRUM wrote:
>
> Greetings,
>
> I am looking for any mod info on the Kenwood TS-60 six meter all mode
> transceiver. I was unable to get any applicable info from Kenwood's web
> site on this transceiver, so I now turn to the internet for help.
>
> Any info would be appreciated. All reply's will be answered.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Mike>

There is one technical bulletin and one parts change bulletin out on the
TS-60. There are no mod sheets. What do you want it to do???

Clif
[e-mail]
AVVid is an authorized Kenwood and Icom Service Center


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Subject: Re: DRSI Packet Board Modem Chip (TCM1305JL)
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Bob Nielsen wrote:
>
> Thierry Wautelet wrote:
> >
> > In article <56abfr$[e-mail]>,
> > MakeMyDay <[e-mail]> wrote:
> >
> > >Looking for a source for the TCM1305JL (or equivalent) modem chip.
> > >
> > >It is a 16-pin DIP.
> > >
> > >The folks at DRSI quit selling the board/parts 2 years ago after it was
> > >cloned in Europe, they say.
> > >
> > >Any help?
> > >
> > ><MakeMyDay>
> > >
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > That's a TCM3105 (not 1305) and it's a fairly standard
> > IC from TEXAS INSTRUMENTS that you should be able to
> > find at any good compoment shop I think.
> >
> > Never heard abt clone board here ?. As far as I
> > remembered, they stop making and stocking them,
> > just doing batch on order.
> >
>
> T.I. quit making the TCM3105, so it may be a bit hard to find.  I
> remember seeing DRSI's announcement a few years ago.  They were quitting
> all ham products to concentrate on the more lucrative commercial market,
> as I recall.
>
> Bob
>
> --
> Bob Nielsen                 Internet: [e-mail]
> Tucson, AZ                  AMPRnet:  [e-mail]
>                             AX.25:    [e-mail]
>                             http://www.primenet.com/~nielsen

We made a few of these pocket packet boards ourselves in our company ham
club. Had a couple extra boards, so I searched to find a couple more
chips. Searched all domestic suppliers listed on the TI www page. As far
as I can tell they are ALL gone!

P.S. If you find any, I can still use about six of them 8o) !

73's de W6QS - Don


From [e-mail] Mon Nov 25 18:45:52 1996
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From: [e-mail] (James E. Thomas)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: FT736R hooked up to a TNC
Date: Mon, 18 Nov 96 20:03:31 GMT
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Has anyone ever had any sucess in hooking up a FT736R to a pk88?  When I
transmit the reciever does not open up fast enough for most of the nodes
around my area.

Any suggestions would be appreciated
Jim VE3TEJ


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From: Joe Giraudo <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: looking to get a Hand held Ham Radio.
Date: Mon, 18 Nov 1996 12:07:36 -0800
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R. A. Green wrote:
>
> On 16 Nov 1996 07:03:33 GMT, [e-mail] (Rob Turner)
> wrote:
>
> >looking to get a Hand held Ham Radio.
> >If there is anyone selling or giveing one away please email me.
> >adam turner
> >[e-mail]
> >
> Hell, if there's anyone giving one away, email me too!
>
> --ronPosted in Rec.Amateur.Boatanchors?

Tube type hand held?


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From: Dick Flanagan <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: Latest firmware version for KPC-3?
Date: Mon, 18 Nov 1996 14:34:32 -0700
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Christopher K. Greenhalgh wrote:
>
> Contact Kantronics. I bought a 6.0 revision for only $20.00, after mailing m
y
> old module back to them.

Interesting.  They quoted me $30 plus $7.50 S&H for a 6.0 rev.  :(
--
Dick Flanagan W6OLD CFII ([e-mail]) Minden, Nevada


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From: [e-mail](Dale Harper)
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Subject: Re: looking to get a Hand held Ham Radio.
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In <[e-mail]> Joe Giraudo <[e-mail]> writes:
>
>R. A. Green wrote:
>>
>> On 16 Nov 1996 07:03:33 GMT, [e-mail] (Rob Turner)
>> wrote:
>>
>> >looking to get a Hand held Ham Radio.
>> >If there is anyone selling or giveing one away please email me.
>> >adam turner
>> >[e-mail]
>> >
>> Hell, if there's anyone giving one away, email me too!
>>
>> --ronPosted in Rec.Amateur.Boatanchors?
>
>Tube type hand held?

Quaker Oats box and crystal.


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From: mdluna
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p



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From: Roger Barker <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: Help with WinPack V5.5
Date: Tue, 19 Nov 1996 00:16:03 +0000
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In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] writes
>Is there any way to send control characters from the edit window in
>WinPack?  I frequently need to send, for example, Control-A to abort
>sending a message,  or Control-T to cancel a command while connected
>to the BBS but WinPack apparently won't allow any characters preceded
>by the "control" key to be transmitted.

WinPack version 5.53 and earlier didn't pass many control characters
through to the TNC, mainly because it was designed to be used with AX25
BBSs, and they don't normally need control characters. It is, however,
quite easy to embed the few control characters that are needed in
scripts, and make them available on function keys.

The new version 6 (released today!) passes most control characters that
are keyed into the single line tx window direct to the TNC.

--
Roger Barker, G4IDE  [e-mail]
Boston, UK           "Be tolerant of everything, except for intolerance!"


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From: "Peter Gottlieb" <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: I am looking for a Radio to talk back and forth when quading.
Date: 19 Nov 1996 01:43:11 GMT
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What is "quading?"

Give an idea of range, do you need waterproof, etc and maybe somebody can
help you.


Rob Turner <[e-mail]> wrote in article
<56jp9g$[e-mail]>...
> I am looking for a Radio to talk back and forth when quading.



From [e-mail] Mon Nov 25 18:45:59 1996
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From: Roger Smallwood <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: *** AEA DSP-232 Only $379.00 ***
Date: Mon, 18 Nov 1996 21:52:33 -0500
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AEA DSP-232 Only $379.00

All mode dsp tnc.

For more info call [phone] or email [e-mail]

--
Thanks!!
Roger N8EKG
R&L Electronics
[e-mail]


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From: [e-mail] (John P. Skubick)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: ICOM IC-281 HF Transceiver
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The ICOM IC-281 HF tranceiver, does anyone know if it's digital
signaling inputs from a TNC are FSK or AFSK?

Thanks.  --John, K8JS



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From: "Mitch, W4OA" <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc,rec.radio.swap
Subject: Re: DRSI Packet Board Modem Chip (TCM1305JL)
Date: Mon, 18 Nov 1996 21:35:45 -0600
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Don Labriola wrote:
>
> Bob Nielsen wrote:
> >
> > Thierry Wautelet wrote:
> > >
> > > In article <56abfr$[e-mail]>,
> > > MakeMyDay <[e-mail]> wrote:
> > >
> > > >Looking for a source for the TCM1305JL (or equivalent) modem chip.
> > > >
> > > >It is a 16-pin DIP.
> > > >
> > > >The folks at DRSI quit selling the board/parts 2 years ago after it was
> > > >cloned in Europe, they say.
> > > >
> > > >Any help?
> > > >
> > > ><MakeMyDay>
> > > >
> > >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > That's a TCM3105 (not 1305) and it's a fairly standard
> > > IC from TEXAS INSTRUMENTS that you should be able to
> > > find at any good compoment shop I think.
> > >
> > > Never heard abt clone board here ?. As far as I
> > > remembered, they stop making and stocking them,
> > > just doing batch on order.
> > >
> >
> > T.I. quit making the TCM3105, so it may be a bit hard to find.  I
> > remember seeing DRSI's announcement a few years ago.  They were quitting
> > all ham products to concentrate on the more lucrative commercial market,
> > as I recall.
> >
> > Bob
> >
> > --
> > Bob Nielsen                 Internet: [e-mail]
> > Tucson, AZ                  AMPRnet:  [e-mail]
> >                             AX.25:    [e-mail]
> >                             http://www.primenet.com/~nielsen
>
> We made a few of these pocket packet boards ourselves in our company ham
> club. Had a couple extra boards, so I searched to find a couple more
> chips. Searched all domestic suppliers listed on the TI www page. As far
> as I can tell they are ALL gone!
>
> P.S. If you find any, I can still use about six of them 8o) !
>
> 73's de W6QS - Don


check the current issue of nuts & volts... there is a company
advertising the 3105 chips in a display (box) type ad... i left
my n & v at the office or i would give you the page reference...
this is the n & v that i received today, which i think is the
december issue...

mitch
--
Felton "Mitch" Mitchell, W4OA  [e-mail]
The Vibroplex Co., Inc., 11 Midtown Park, E., Mobile, AL 36606-4141
800-840-8873 orders, 334-478-8873 info, 334-476-0465 FAX
Visit our web site at - http://www.vibroplex.com


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From: [e-mail] (Timothy J Salo)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: IP Address
Date: 18 Nov 1996 22:38:34 -0600
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A couple of nits...

In article <[e-mail]>,
David Woolley <[e-mail]> wrote:
        [...]
>Incidentally, is there an Autonomous System number for 44.0.0.0/8; as I
>understand it, backbone routes are to ASes, not to individual machines,
>allowing for more than one gateway to serve a block of addresses.
        [...]

More precisely, 44.0.0.0 is an IP address.  It happens to be a class A
address, in pre-CIDR nomenclature.  For what it is worth, from the
whois database:

>>>>>>   % whois 44.0.0.0
>>>>>>   Amateur Radio Digital Communications (NET-AMPRNET)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>      Netname: AMPRNET
>>>>>>      Netnumber: 44.0.0.0
>>>>>>
>>>>>>      Coordinator:
>>>>>>         Kantor, Brian  (BK29)  [e-mail]
>>>>>>         [phone] (FAX) [phone] (FAX) [phone]
>>>>>>
>>>>>>      Domain System inverse mapping provided by:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>      UCSD.EDU           128.54.16.1, 132.239.1.1, 132.239.254.201
>>>>>>      TROUT.NOSC.MIL     128.49.16.7
>>>>>>
>>>>>>      Record last updated on 14-Jul-92.

You are correct that the Internet routing tables contain routes for
networks, rather than individual hosts.

(Autonomous System numbers are something completely different.)

More trivia from:

Tim Salo
[e-mail]
KI0EQ


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From: [e-mail] (Steve Childress)
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Subject: Re: looking to get a Hand held Ham Radio.
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In article <[e-mail]>, Joe Giraudo <[e-mail]> wrote:
>R. A. Green wrote:
>>
>> On 16 Nov 1996 07:03:33 GMT, [e-mail] (Rob Turner)
>> wrote:
>>
>> >looking to get a Hand held Ham Radio.
>> >If there is anyone selling or giveing one away please email me.
>> >adam turner
>> >[e-mail]
>> >
>> Hell, if there's anyone giving one away, email me too!
>>
>> --ronPosted in Rec.Amateur.Boatanchors?
>
>Tube type hand held?

Maybe he meant a radio for pigs to listen to heavy metal with.


------------------------------------------------------------
[e-mail]          If Computers Are The Answer...
  WB6CSZ                         What Was The Question?



From [e-mail] Mon Nov 25 18:46:05 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Gary Coffman)
Subject: Re: Low cost 1.2GHz packet?
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail] (Gary Coffman)
Organization: Destructive Testing Systems
References: <56lu1h$[e-mail]>
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In article <56lu1h$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (phil reed) writes:
>It occured to me that a way to build an inexpensive packet backbone link on
>1.2GHz would be to take an existing 9600 baud 2M FM radio and run it into a
>Down East Microwave transverter. Is there any reason this wouldn't work?

The big problem is frequency stability. You'll need to ovenize the
oscillators, and probably employ some compensation too, in order to
keep them netted. AFC may help too, but that can lead to a very long
Txd as the receiving station has to acquire lock with the transmitter
of the moment before it can start to decode the packet.

Since you can go much faster than 9.6 kb on 1.2 GHz, and since the
wider signals will tolerate drift better, it would make more sense
to go to 56 kb or faster at 1.2 GHz. The WA4DSY modem can tolerate
a 4 ppm drift at 1.2 GHz, IE about 5 kHz, before the error rate
increases. This much drift at 9.6 kb would cause the station to be
uncopyable (you need to hold drift to 0.4 ppm for a G3RUH 9600 baud
modulation at 1.2 GHz).

There are other options too. The Slovenian 256 kb and 1.2 Mb data
radios use plain Manchester FSK. They're broad as a barn, but that
means they tolerate drift very well indeed. Of course bandwidth
consumed is starting to get pretty large at 1.2 Mb FSK, and the
required signal levels start to climb rather rapidly to give adequate
SNR. But you can use high gain directional antennas to address both
concerns rather nicely for a backbone.

In summary, I wouldn't bother with 9600 baud at 1.2 GHz. If you're
going to the trouble to get the signal up there, you might as well
take advantage of the bandwidth available and run something faster.
Even though you have to use double conversion to get the WA4DSY
RF modem onto 1.2 GHz, it'll still likely be cheaper and easier
than using a modified voice grade 2m radio and G3RUH modem with the
transverter, when you consider the 10x increased frequency stability
you'll have to achieve to make the latter combo work.

Gary
--
Gary Coffman KE4ZV          |    You make it,     | Due to provider problems
Destructive Testing Systems |    we break it.     | with previous uucp address
es
534 Shannon Way             |    Guaranteed!      | Email to [e-mail]
Lawrenceville, GA 30244     |                     |


From [e-mail] Mon Nov 25 18:46:06 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Gary Coffman)
Subject: Re: What do I need for RTTY?
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail] (Gary Coffman)
Organization: Destructive Testing Systems
References: <56p08p$[e-mail]>
Date: Tue, 19 Nov 1996 14:43:42 GMT
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In article <56p08p$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Gordon Gekko) write
s:
>Hi everyone.
>
>I have been out of ham radio for a number of years, and when I was last
>on RTTY, I had a model 15 teleprinter and a homebrew TU.  Well, times
>they have a changed!
>
>I have a 386 DX40 in the shack as my logging computer, and I would like to
>get on RTTY again with my Kenwood TS820, but I don't know what I need
>to do it.
>
>I have heard that a sound card can decode RTTY, but I'd like to transmit as
>well. I don't have a clue what gizmo I need between the computer and the
>transmitter RTTY key in jack.

You've got two ways you can go, Dave. You can use the sound card to
synthesize an AFSK signal and feed that to the microphone jack of a
SSB rig, or you can use a parallel or serial port status line to
toggle the FSK input of a rig so equipped, and let software bit bang it.

This assumes the rig needs a TTL input to its FSK port, most modern
rigs do. But if you need something else, you'll have to build a simple
level converter.

PTT will be handled by another status bit which will be toggled by
the software to put the rig in transmit. (Or if you decide to use
AFSK, the SSB rig's VOX can handle PTT.)

AFSK is easiest since no interfaces or modifications are required,
but true FSK often works better, and is the *only* way to go if
the transmitter doesn't do SSB.

Gary
--
Gary Coffman KE4ZV          |    You make it,     | Due to provider problems
Destructive Testing Systems |    we break it.     | with previous uucp address
es
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From [e-mail] Mon Nov 25 18:46:08 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Gary Coffman)
Subject: Re: Low Cost 1.2Ghz packet?
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail] (Gary Coffman)
Organization: Destructive Testing Systems
References: <[e-mail]>
Date: Tue, 19 Nov 1996 15:00:17 GMT
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In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] writes:
>
> Clearly, a wider BW modulation is more appropriate. Which leads us to the
>56 KB WA4DSY or a 38.4 KB G3RUH modem. The 56KB 'DSY modem is clearly tech-
>nically superior. But, on 1.2 Ghz its not easily implimented. There are no
>I/Q outputs and its onboard IF is 28 Mhz. A 38.4 KB G3RUH modem, thru a
>widebandwidth 2m radio should be easier to do, with the DE transverters.

Using the WA4DSY modem isn't difficult. You just have to use double
conversion. You can use the DE 10m->2m low power transverter (IE don't
buy the PA), between the RF modem and the DE 1.2 GHz transverter. You
can even use the Hamtronics TV-2 and a 2m->10m receive converter in
there. You don't need TR switching in the intermediate stage since
the RF modem has separate Tx and Rx ports (and you should set up the
1.2 GHz transverter's IF ports the same way). TR is only needed on
the 1.2 GHz side (unless you run separate antennas, then you can
avoid this too). This double conversion costs about the same as the
G3RUH modem board that you won't need, and the WA4DSY modem costs
about the same as a 2m rig, so costing becomes a wash, but your
throughput just took a giant leap upward.

Gary
--
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Destructive Testing Systems |    we break it.     | with previous uucp address
es
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Subject: Save 80% On Your Grocery Bills!!!
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From [e-mail] Mon Nov 25 18:46:10 1996
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From: [e-mail]
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Internet packet cluster
Date: 19 Nov 1996 15:07:50 GMT
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Is there such a thing as an internet-based packet cluster?  If so, what's
the address?  If not, why not?

73,
  WD0EWJ




From [e-mail] Mon Nov 25 18:46:11 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Gary Coffman)
Subject: Re: Digital & Analog
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail] (Gary Coffman)
Organization: Destructive Testing Systems
References: <01bbd694$cfc63d40$c7ef8ea1@ranger>
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In article <01bbd694$cfc63d40$c7ef8ea1@ranger> "HONG WAI TENG" <[e-mail]
ng.my> writes:
>Why digital transmission is better than analog?
>Please explain in terms of networking communications
>Thanks

Boiled down to the very basic level, digital technique is better
than analog technique because it is easier to separate a signal
consisting of a finite number of known discrete states from noise
and other channel impairments than it is to separate an analog signal
with an infinite number of possible states from noise and other channel
impairments. Digital signals allow the creation of a finite decision
tree in signal space while analog signals do not.

For a detailed explanation, I refer you to _Digital Modulation
and Coding_ by Stephen Wilson. That's the best single book on
the subject that I've found. (And the subject cannot be done
justice in less than book length IMHO.)

Gary
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Destructive Testing Systems |    we break it.     | with previous uucp address
es
534 Shannon Way             |    Guaranteed!      | Email to [e-mail]
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From [e-mail] Mon Nov 25 18:46:13 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Dale Heatherington)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: Low Cost 1.2Ghz packet?
Date: 19 Nov 1996 17:08:58 GMT
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In <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Gary Coffman
) writes:
>In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] writes:
>>
>> Clearly, a wider BW modulation is more appropriate. Which leads us to the
>>56 KB WA4DSY or a 38.4 KB G3RUH modem. The 56KB 'DSY modem is clearly tech-
>>nically superior. But, on 1.2 Ghz its not easily implimented. There are no
>>I/Q outputs and its onboard IF is 28 Mhz. A 38.4 KB G3RUH modem, thru a
>>widebandwidth 2m radio should be easier to do, with the DE transverters.
>
>Using the WA4DSY modem isn't difficult. You just have to use double
>conversion. You can use the DE 10m->2m low power transverter (IE don't
>buy the PA), between the RF modem and the DE 1.2 GHz transverter. You
>can even use the Hamtronics TV-2 and a 2m->10m receive converter in
>there. You don't need TR switching in the intermediate stage since
>the RF modem has separate Tx and Rx ports (and you should set up the
>1.2 GHz transverter's IF ports the same way). TR is only needed on
>the 1.2 GHz side (unless you run separate antennas, then you can
>avoid this too). This double conversion costs about the same as the
>G3RUH modem board that you won't need, and the WA4DSY modem costs
>about the same as a 2m rig, so costing becomes a wash, but your
>throughput just took a giant leap upward.


Down East sells a model 1296-28 transverter.  It has a 10 meter IF.
It puts out 3 watts at 1296 mhz and is $550.
This will interface to the WA4DSY 56k modem directly.

Dale Heatherington, WA4DSY
http://www.wa4dsy.radio.org/










From [e-mail] Mon Nov 25 18:46:14 1996
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From: Ronald Coursey <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Radio Shack PRO-2006 Scanners For Sale
Date: Tue, 19 Nov 1996 09:14:39 -0800
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From [e-mail] Mon Nov 25 18:46:15 1996
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From [e-mail] Mon Nov 25 18:46:16 1996
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From: Hank Oredson <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: Morse Code BBSes?
Date: Tue, 19 Nov 1996 13:19:48 -0800
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Brent Corbin wrote:
>
> Mike White ([e-mail]) wrote:
> : Are there any Morse Code BBSes that exist?  An interface to JNOS
> : would be a rather cool thing...
> :   -Mike
>
> : --
> : [e-mail]                       (v)715/833-8653
> : N9UXC                         (f)715/833-2027
>
> You're joking, right?
>
> Actually, I suppose it could be done, along the lines of the CW robots on
> the RS birds, but heck - might as well use 45b rtty 8*)

Actually fairly simple to do ... with a few minor problems
(like how do you send "Line Feed" and "Carriage Return"
 and "Tab" in Morse?).

Considered putting one on air in 1986, but never quite got
around to doing the TNC interface.  If I did put one on air,
what freq should it use?


From [e-mail] Mon Nov 25 18:46:17 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Curt Phillips)
Newsgroups: rec.radio,rec.radio.amateur,rec.radio.amateur.antenna,rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors,rec.radio.amateur.digital,rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc,rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.space
Subject: Re: looking to get a Hand held Ham Radio.
Date: Tue, 19 Nov 1996 22:34:31 GMT
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Joe Giraudo <[e-mail]> wrote:
>R. A. Green wrote:
>> On 16 Nov 1996 07:03:33 GMT, [e-mail] (Rob Turner)
>> wrote:
>> >looking to get a Hand held Ham Radio.
>> >If there is anyone selling or giveing one away please email me.
>> >adam turner
>> >[e-mail]
>> Hell, if there's anyone giving one away, email me too!
>> --ronPosted in Rec.Amateur.Boatanchors?
>Tube type hand held?

  But of course.  Didn't you ever watch the TV show "Combat" (or re-runs).
One of their WWII portable radios was in a field pack, but another type
literally WAS a tube type hand held... a LARGE handheld, but a handheld
radio nonetheless.

  But for FREE?????  Well, I did get a handheld radio "almost" for free.
It was a handheld receiver only (scanner) that covered the 2 meter band
(and the 160 MHz range public service band) for only $5... AND, it even
came with some crystals for the four channels.  Unfortunately, none of them
were ham frequencies.

========== Opinions expressed are solely those of the author =========
Curt Phillips, CEM KD4YU (ex-WB4LHI)  |    Motto of the
Engineer/ Writer/ Gadgeteer/ Raconteur|    Tarheel Scanner/SWL Group:
Chairman, Tarheel Scanner/SWL Group   |    "If it's expensive and
ARRL Life; QCWA; Raleigh ARS; NRA; AEE|      electronic, we like it."
==== [e-mail] ==== [Copyright 1996 All rights reserved]====



From [e-mail] Mon Nov 25 18:46:18 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Curt Phillips)
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Subject: Re: I am looking for a Radio to talk back and forth when quading.
Date: Tue, 19 Nov 1996 22:36:17 GMT
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"Peter Gottlieb" <[e-mail]> wrote:
>What is "quading?"

  It must be "tuning up his quad".  They can be very finicky, you know.

--
=========== Opinions expressed are solely those of the author ==========
Curt Phillips, CEM KD4YU (ex-WB4LHI)  | They that can give up essential
Engineer/Writer/Adventurer/Raconteur  | liberty to obtain a little
Chairman, Tar Heel Scanner/SWL Group  | temporary safety deserve neither
ARRL Life; QCWA; Raleigh ARS; NRA; AEE|liberty nor safety. -Ben Franklin
==== [e-mail] ====== [Copyright 1996 All rights reserved]====





From [e-mail] Mon Nov 25 18:46:19 1996
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From: [e-mail] (ik8enh)
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Subject: T.A.P.R. 1.1.9
Date: Tue, 19 Nov 1996 22:57:37 GMT
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Any news ???
Tks in advance,
Nino


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From [e-mail] Mon Nov 25 18:46:20 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Pete)
Newsgroups: aus.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Winpack, version 6.10, come and get it !!!
Date: Wed, 20 Nov 1996 00:26:02 GMT
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Hello ALL

Well Winpack version 6.10 is hot off the press (well internet) and
will be available from my web page by 20:00 est 20/11/96.(Australian
Time)

Once again, Roger has done a brilliant job enhancing the package and
it looks impressive.. And PLEASE remember, read the documentation
before sending an e-mail fro help !

Drop by and grab a copy....

http://www.acay.com.au/~vk2yx

Keep that web counter ticking !!

Pete..vk2yx


From [e-mail] Mon Nov 25 18:46:21 1996
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From: Roger Smallwood <[e-mail]>
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Subject: *** AEA DSP-232 only $ 379.00 ***
Date: Tue, 19 Nov 1996 21:06:59 -0500
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New Special AEA DSP-232 all mode DSP tnc only $379.00

for more info call [phone] or
email [e-mail]

--
Thanks!!
Roger N8EKG
R&L Electronics
[e-mail]


From [e-mail] Mon Nov 25 18:46:22 1996
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From: Tim Connolly <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: IP Number
Date: Tue, 19 Nov 1996 21:14:53 -0500
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Jens David wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> In <[e-mail]>, Geoff Storchan <[e-mail]> writes:
> >Does anyone know of a datbase on the internet where I can llok up IP
> >numbers?? I applied for a number a few months ago but never received
> >anything in my bbs mailbox about it. Yet last weekend my friend was
> >looking through some datbase and found my number. I would like to know
> >how to reach it or maybe you can reach it and will doublecheck for me and
> >see if my IP number is in there. Thanks a lot!!!
> >
> >73 es vy good DX,
> >
> >Geoff KB8UUM
> >
>
> Well, how about looking up the address on one of the authentative DNSs for t
he
> domain in question?
>
> 73s
>    Jens
>
> [e-mail]


 If your using windows, goto DOS and type:   ping kb8uum.ampr.org

I see you as : 44.102.16.75

-- Tim Connolly
-- Vienna Computer Services & World Wide Web Advertising
-- http://www.midohiovalley.com/vcs
-- mailto:[e-mail]


From [e-mail] Mon Nov 25 18:46:24 1996
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From: Tim Connolly <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: tnc2 - how to get in kiss mode?
Date: Tue, 19 Nov 1996 21:16:09 -0500
Organization: Vienna Computer Services
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Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <564o00$[e-mail]>
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To: Peter Berrett <[e-mail]>

Peter Berrett wrote:
>
> Hi all
>
> I wish to try out the wintnc software that has been recently released
> as well as try out a bit of tcpip.
>
> The difficulty is that whilst tcpip etc is easy enough to get going on
> baycom style modems i have difficulties with my tnc.
>
> I have an mfj1270b tnc-2.
>
> I have looked through the manual and searched the internet to no avail.
> I know that there is a command 'kiss on' which is supposed to put the
> tnc into kiss mode however it seems to stay in command mode.
>
> When I run the wintnc software it does not recognise any packets being
> received by the tnc. I have configured the software correctly to a kiss
> compatible tnc however unlike the baycom it does not recognise any
> packets.
>
> When I run tpk I can still see packets coming up on the screen so they
> are coming ok. And the wintnc parameters seem to be correct with
> regards to speed of connection to tnc (9600) etc.
>
> It seems the tnc is not kicking correctly intop kiss mode.
>
> How can I tell my tnc to go into kiss mode. Is there some sort of
> initialisation string (there is a space for this in wintnc) that I can
> use to put it into kiss mode?
>
> Hoping someone can help
>
> cheers Peter vk3kat


  After you type kiss on, type restart... that should do it.

-- Tim Connolly
-- Vienna Computer Services & World Wide Web Advertising
-- http://www.midohiovalley.com/vcs
-- mailto:[e-mail]


From [e-mail] Mon Nov 25 18:46:26 1996
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From: Tim Connolly <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: alt.radio.digital,rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc,rec.radio.amateur.dx,rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.homebrew,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.space,rec.radio.shortwave,alt.ham-radio.binaries,alt.ham-radio.am,alt.ham-radio.amtor,alt.ham-radio.digital-voice,alt.ham-radio.dxing,alt.ham-radio.eme,alt.ham-radio.spread,alt.ham-radio.exotic-modes,alt.ham-radio.fax,alt.ham-radio.fm,alt.ham-radio.hf,alt.ham-radio.nocode,alt.ham-radio.slowscan,alt.ham-radio.packet,alt.ham-radio.ssb,alt.ham-radio.uwave,alt.ham-radio.morse,alt.ham-radio.vhf-uhf,alt.ham-radio.rtty
Subject: Re: Sound Blaster 16 Spectral display & Filtering FREEWARE
Date: Tue, 19 Nov 1996 21:19:04 -0500
Organization: Vienna Computer Services
Lines: 47
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
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To: KW5Q <[e-mail]>
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KW5Q wrote:
>
> I have uploaded to Simtel.Net:
>
> http://www.simtel.net/pub/simtelnet/msdos/hamradio/sbfft11.zip
> ftp://ftp.simtel.net/pub/simtelnet/msdos/hamradio/sbfft11.zip   1032518 byte
s
>
> sbfft11.zip     Sound Blaster spectral display and filtering
>
> Features:
>  * Sound Blaster 16 (or 100% compatible) input and output.
>  * Band widths of 2K, 4K, 8K or 16K Hz.
>  * Spectral resolutions of 1 Hz to 16 Hz per pixel.
>  * Display of power spectral density with any of 4 color maps in either
>     linear or logarithmic scale.
>  * Define and use as many as to six filters simultaneously -- band pass,
>     band stop, low pass, and high pass.
>  * Filters are defined graphically by mouse movement based upon
>     the displayed spectrum.  Once you see a signal, you can
>     quickly define a pass or stop filter around the signal by clicking
>     and dragging the mouse.
>  * Net filter passband is displayed at all times.
>  * Filters can be selectively enabled and disabled by a single
>     keystroke.
>
> Special requirements: DOS 3.0 or higher, SB16 or 100% compatible, SVGA,
>                       VESA modes 101, 105, mouse.
>
> Copyrighted Freeware.  Uploaded by the author.
>
> Kevin - KW5Q
>
> [e-mail]
>
> $$e^{-\frac12 K^2} \frac d{dK} e^{\frac12 K^2}e^{\sqrt{in}}$$
> Kevin McWilliams
> KW5Q
> Applied Mathematician


Could you explain what this software is used for, thanks!
Sounds like something I have been interested in.

-- Tim Connolly
-- Vienna Computer Services & World Wide Web Advertising
-- http://www.midohiovalley.com/vcs
-- mailto:[e-mail]


From [e-mail] Mon Nov 25 18:46:27 1996
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From: Tim Connolly <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: IP Address
Date: Tue, 19 Nov 1996 21:21:23 -0500
Organization: Vienna Computer Services
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To: David Kelly <[e-mail]>

David Kelly wrote:
>
> Neal Zipper wrote:
> >
> > I am new to IP for ham radio and want to know if the address we receive
> > from ampr.org are true Internet IP addresses or just for the ham Radio sid
e
> > of the routers? Any one know?
>
> Looks real to me. Try "nslookup" for yourself on your ISP.
> This doesn't mean the nets are *really* connected (everywhere)
> but the groundwork is done to make the connections.
>
>         nexgen: {1182} nslookup kr4iz
>         Server:  spider.HiWAAY.net
>         Address:  204.214.4.4
>
>         Name:    kr4iz.ampr.org
>         Address:  44.98.24.79
>
> --
> David Kelly N4HHE, [e-mail] (wk), [e-mail] (hm)
> =====================================================================
> The human mind ordinarily operates at only ten percent of its
> capacity -- the rest is overhead for the operating system.



C:\WINDOWS\Desktop>ping kr4iz.ampr.org

Pinging kr4iz.ampr.org [44.98.24.79] with 32 bytes of data:

Request timed out.
Request timed out.
Request timed out.
Request timed out.

C:\WINDOWS\Desktop>

Here's what I see as your IP address on the Internet!
-- Tim Connolly
-- Vienna Computer Services & World Wide Web Advertising
-- http://www.midohiovalley.com/vcs
-- mailto:[e-mail]


From [e-mail] Mon Nov 25 18:46:29 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Timothy J Salo)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: IP Address
Date: 19 Nov 1996 21:39:27 -0600
Organization: University of Minnesota
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Sender: [e-mail]
Message-ID: <56tuhf$[e-mail]>
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>> Neal Zipper wrote:
>> > I am new to IP for ham radio and want to know if the address we receive
>> > from ampr.org are true Internet IP addresses or just for the ham Radio si
de
>> > of the routers? Any one know?
>>      [...]

The 44.x.x.x addresses are "real" IP addresses, in the sense that
the 44.x.x.x addresses are part of the same address space as are all
other [legitimate] IP addresses.

The 44.0.0.0 IP network is announced to the Internet.  I can't see the
Internet routing table entries in the core of the Internet, but I
suspect that only the 44.0.0.0 network is announced.  Specifically,
I doubt that pieces of the 44 net are announced from various places
in the Internet.  (Note, there were some recent experiments with
announcing pieces of class A IP addresses, of which the 44 net is one.
So far, I believe that these are still only experiments.)

The following "traceroute" from me to an arbitrary 44.x.x.x address
might provide some interesting info.  ("traceroute" identifies each
router in the path between a source and destination in the Internet.
Each line in the following output is another router; my comments
are in brackets. The numbers are round-trip-times.)

> noc# traceroute 44.0.0.1
> traceroute to 44.0.0.1 (44.0.0.1), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets
        [The following two routers are at my site]
>  1  [a router internal to our site]  3 ms  2 ms  2 ms
>  2  [another internal router]  3 ms  2 ms  2 ms
        [These routers are SprintLink routers]
>  3  sl-chi-5-S4/4-T1.sprintlink.net (144.228.55.45)  13 ms  13 ms  12 ms
>  4  sl-chi-3-F0/0.sprintlink.net (144.228.50.3)  14 ms  13 ms  14 ms
        [This is a SprintLink router at the Pensauken (NYC) NAP]
>  5  sl-pen-2-H2/0-T3.sprintlink.net (144.228.10.37)  31 ms  31 ms  213 ms
        [CERFnet has a router at the Pensauken NAP]
>  6  cerfnet.sprintnap.net (192.157.69.5)  115 ms  107 ms  169 ms
        [CERFnet has an ATM VC between the Pensauken NAP and San Diego]
>  7  san-atm-ds3.cerf.net (134.24.17.100)  114 ms  115 ms  108 ms
>  8  riptide-fddi.cerf.net (134.24.252.10)  117 ms  311 ms  122 ms
        [And, finally the UC San Diego Campus]
>  9  * muir-gw-fddi.ucsd.edu (132.239.254.238)  189 ms  116 ms
        [And, AMPR]
> 10  ampr.org (44.0.0.1)  107 ms *  96 ms

Note that because a few 44.x.x.x hosts are directly reachable from
the Internet, it does not follow that _all_ 44.x.x.x hosts are.  I assume
that only a very few 44.x.x.x hosts are directly reachable from the
Internet.  The owner of 44.x.x.x., Brian Kantor, (located at, surprise,
UCSD), could probably tell us for sure.

Disclaimer: I don't claim to know much about radio, but I have had some
exposure to the Internet...

Probably more than you ever wanted to know,

Tim Salo
[e-mail]
KI0EQ
[I might even get my own 44 address, if I ever get a rig on the air...]




From [e-mail] Mon Nov 25 18:46:30 1996
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From: Jerry Needell <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: Internet packet cluster
Date: Tue, 19 Nov 1996 22:42:42 -0500
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why??

[e-mail] wrote:
>
> Is there such a thing as an internet-based packet cluster?  If so, what's
> the address?  If not, why not?
>
> 73,
>   WD0EWJ

--
Jerry Needell - [e-mail] (most reliable e-mail address)
Amateur Radio - N1SJQ
Packet  Radio - [e-mail] or [e-mail]


From [e-mail] Mon Nov 25 18:46:31 1996
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From: [e-mail]
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: Internet packet cluster
Date: 20 Nov 1996 07:46:59 GMT
Organization: DigiPhone Corporation, Bryan/College Station Texas 409-693-8885
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In <[e-mail]>, Jerry Needell <[e-mail]> writes:
>why??
>
>[e-mail] wrote:
>>
>> Is there such a thing as an internet-based packet cluster?  If so, what's
>> the address?  If not, why not?
>>
>> 73,
>>   WD0EWJ
>
>--
>Jerry Needell - [e-mail] (most reliable e-mail address)
>Amateur Radio - N1SJQ
>Packet  Radio - [e-mail] or [e-mail]

There are several of them.  Run up a copy of LYCOS or whatever and look up
OH2BU, for example.  Very nicely done LINUX cluster that will even take spots
from you direct.   What is the counter now over 1,400,000 hits the last I
saw of it?

There are also TELNET ports to a bunch of them.

As to why, the reaction time on these is a TON faster than the over the
air versions at 1200 baud....

    :)

//-----------------------------
Mike - W5WQN
[e-mail]
[e-mail]



From [e-mail] Mon Nov 25 18:46:32 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Peter Frenning)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: Internet packet cluster
Date: Wed, 20 Nov 1996 09:20:56 GMT
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[e-mail] wrote:

>Is there such a thing as an internet-based packet cluster?  If so, what's
>the address?  If not, why not?
>
>73,
>  WD0EWJ
>
>
Try this one:
        http://www.clinet.fi/~jukka/webcluster.html

It's very good.

vy 73 de OZ1PIF

*********************************   OZ1PIF  *****************************
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From [e-mail] Mon Nov 25 18:46:33 1996
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From: [e-mail]
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: Internet packet cluster
Date: 20 Nov 1996 15:43:28 GMT
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There is at least one website dx cluster, as well as several that you can
telnet to.  Just put "dx cluster" into a few search engines and that
should keep you busy for a while.  It doesn't seem to have much practical
use to me either, unless you can find one near your area that you can't
connect to by packet.

Alan -- KJ5ZD


From [e-mail] Mon Nov 25 18:46:34 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Brian Kantor)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: IP Address
Date: 20 Nov 1996 16:19:39 GMT
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As an experimental network, there is some routing of parts of network 44
to and from the rest of the internet.

In general, because of access controls, ham radio based links will not
respond to pings nor connection attempts from non-net-44 addresses.
        - Brian


From [e-mail] Mon Nov 25 18:46:34 1996
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Date: Wed, 20 Nov 1996 18:29:22 +0100
From: William Vynck <[e-mail]>
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To: MICHAEL J DRUM <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Want Kenwood IF-10D Computer Interface.
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MICHAEL J DRUM wrote:
>
> Greetings,
>
> I want to buy a Kenwood IF-10D Computer interface for my TS-60. If you
> have one for sale please contact me at my Email address and let me know
> the details. I will answer all reply's sent.
>
> Thank You.
>
> Mike>


DONT BUY !!

To expencive, i could send you the chematics to build one.


73
William


From [e-mail] Mon Nov 25 18:46:35 1996
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From: [e-mail] (/E00680/cstevens/Carl Stevens)
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[e-mail] wrote:
: THIS is Your Problem!!!

Sorry for the massive crosspost. This is just to let everyone know that
I sent a complaint about this spam to [e-mail]. I am not
advocating that everyone do this and bring the system to it's knees -
that would be a personal choice.

I think I'll send a complaint to [e-mail] also; just to
make sure the bases are covered.


Carl Stevens                      _\_/^\_/_          Long EZ N223MM
[e-mail]  _____/_/_/|\_\_\_____    And one on the way!

"The right of self-defense is the first law of nature ... and when
 the right of the people to keep and bear arms is, under any color
 or pretext whatsoever, prohibited, liberty, if not already
 annihilated, is on the brink of destruction."
 -- St. George Tucker, in his edition of Blackstone's Commentaries


From [e-mail] Mon Nov 25 18:46:36 1996
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From: Gary Robison <[e-mail]>
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Subject: PK-88
Date: Wed, 20 Nov 1996 22:19:16 +0000
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Will the PK-88 work for an X1-J node ?
I have one up the shelf and would like
to put it up as a node if I could. Our
local group has a dead area to the North
West this would add to the coverage.

Thank you
Gary K3SJX


From [e-mail] Mon Nov 25 18:46:37 1996
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From: Ian Brown <[e-mail]>
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Posting gingerly,

Sorry folks - I did not mean to 'follow-up' this post.

I must have had a 'window' behind another one - wondered what was
happening at the time - this is a 'beta' system I am using.

Ian >>




From [e-mail] Mon Nov 25 18:46:38 1996
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Can I use a Baycom type modem with the Mac SoftKiss TNC emulator?

Please reply via e-mail.


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From [e-mail] Mon Nov 25 18:46:39 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Pete)
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Subject: Having problems downloading Winpack 6.10 ?
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Hello ALL

Some Amateurs that have tried to download the NEW version of Winpack
V6.10 from my web page have experienced problems trying to get the
1.33MB file down.

To help get it  down and to relieve the frustration, I have broken
Winpack down into 4 parts to give a better chance of getting each
section.

http://www.acay.com.au/~vk2yx

Cheers..Peter


From [e-mail] Mon Nov 25 18:46:40 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Eddie Seymour)
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Subject: W95 Generic Terminal Prog.
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Am looking for a simple w95 term. prog. with split-screen and a
reasonable scroll-back buffer. Tried winpack but don't want all the
frills. Use a tnc-2. YAPP would do fine if it was w95 multi-taskable.
Eddie Seymour, WB4MLE
E-Mail [e-mail]

Packet wb4mle@wb4mle.#cenal.al.usa.noam


From [e-mail] Mon Nov 25 18:46:41 1996
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From: Todd Peterson <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Free Electronics Directory
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You WILL want to set a bookmark!

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From [e-mail] Mon Nov 25 18:46:41 1996
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Hello,
I am new to the world of packet and I was wondering if I could get some
information? First, when a TNC is placed in command mode, and the mall
command is initiated, as traffic is observed there is usually <UA ..> and
other symbols at the end of the line. What do these symbols mean?
Secondly, I intend to use packet to capture telemetry data. I would like
to write my own terminal program to log the incoming data. Has anyone done
this before? If so, is it just a matter of connecting with the correct
callsign, and then starting the data flow. Any help would be greatly
appreciated.

Joern.



From [e-mail] Mon Nov 25 18:46:43 1996
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From: "Steve Wolf" <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: TS-690S/450S Tx Audio Problem w/TNC :-(
Date: 21 Nov 1996 11:54:47 GMT
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> The problem is a latent defect in the Kenwood radio design. Forget about
> working AFSK and go for a FSK hookup and you can get around the problem.
>
> Been there, done that and it is waste of your time and effort to contact
> Kenwood. No problems in FSK...never could get AFSK to work and AEA does
> not even show a PK-232 AFSK hookup. They recommend FSK...and I learned
> why the hard way.

My AFSK KAM+ works great on my 450 and my 690.  Always has.

A friend's radios (he operates a number on HF,
WA8BXN@WA8BXN.#NEOH.OH.USA.NA) work fine on AFSK, too.

I made some comparisons of the rig's FSK performance to its AFSK
performance and found that AFSK was preferred.  This is not
theoretical bs.  I drove 300 miles and connected up to home a couple
of dozen times over a couple of weeks.  I wish I could remember
specific reasons I chose AFSK over FSK but I would encourage others
to perform the same tests.

Sounds to me like a problem with AEA.

(Or ... are you talking about the 2.1 kHz frequency difference?  If you
wanted to connect up to NO8M on 14074 mark with a AFSK KAM+
you would set your dial to 14076.1.  You would then adjust the IF
Shift to center the KAM's LED meter to the white noise on the
frequency.)

--
73,
Steve
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From [e-mail] Mon Nov 25 18:46:44 1996
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subscribe [e-mail]



From [e-mail] Mon Nov 25 18:46:45 1996
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From: James W. Barr <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: W95 Generic Terminal Prog.
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Eddie Seymour <[e-mail]> wrote:
: Am looking for a simple w95 term. prog. with split-screen and a
: reasonable scroll-back buffer. Tried winpack but don't want all the
: frills. Use a tnc-2. YAPP would do fine if it was w95 multi-taskable.
: Eddie Seymour, WB4MLE
: E-Mail [e-mail]

Eddie,

You said that you want split-screen, so I guess Win95's HyperTerminal is
out.  Another suggestion is to use a program called PacketPet for Windows.
This is not a native Win95 program (it's Win31), but it runs very well
under Win95.  It has a TON of features, but you don't have to use them
all.  It works quite well with my MFJ 1270 TN.  It even "speaks" the call
letters of the station to which you are connected!  I have had ZERO luck
finding this program on the 'net, but it is on AOL.  If you want it, check
out AOL or I can put it in my FTP site temporarily for you to get or I
could e-mail it to you.  It's big, about 1.2mb, but I think it is one of
the best TNC programs for Windows out there.

: Packet wb4mle@wb4mle.#cenal.al.usa.noam

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From [e-mail] Mon Nov 25 18:46:47 1996
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From: Jim Johnson <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: Sound Blaster 16 Spectral display & Filtering FREEWARE
Date: Thu, 21 Nov 1996 08:33:34 -0800
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Tim Connolly wrote:
>
> KW5Q wrote:
> >
> > I have uploaded to Simtel.Net:
> >
> > http://www.simtel.net/pub/simtelnet/msdos/hamradio/sbfft11.zip
> > ftp://ftp.simtel.net/pub/simtelnet/msdos/hamradio/sbfft11.zip   1032518 by
tes
> >
> > sbfft11.zip     Sound Blaster spectral display and filtering
> >


   This sounds very similar to the product that Brian Beasley (sp) sells
for about $100 ... is that the case or am I missing the boat?

   Tnx,

   Jim W6SC
   [e-mail]


From [e-mail] Mon Nov 25 18:46:48 1996
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From: [e-mail]
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Subject: Amateur Radio web page
Date: Thu, 21 Nov 1996 11:27:26 -0600
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This is my new Amateur Radio web page...

http://linc2.lincup.com/~tstatham

Please check it out and let me know what you think.
I know it is slow, but is it worth the load time? I
would appreciate any ideas for improvement. I am new to
web page design and this is a learning experience for
me. Thanks in advance.

Tommy
N5HTQ

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From [e-mail] Mon Nov 25 18:46:49 1996
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From: Rob Dover <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: Internet packet cluster
Date: Thu, 21 Nov 1996 10:55:24 -0700
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[e-mail] wrote:
>
> In <[e-mail]>, Jerry Needell <[e-mail]> writes
:
> >why??
> >
> >[e-mail] wrote:
> >>
> >> Is there such a thing as an internet-based packet cluster?  If so, what's
> >> the address?  If not, why not?
> >>
> >> 73,
> >>   WD0EWJ
> >
> >--
> >Jerry Needell - [e-mail] (most reliable e-mail address)
> >Amateur Radio - N1SJQ
> >Packet  Radio - [e-mail] or [e-mail]
>
> There are several of them.  Run up a copy of LYCOS or whatever and look up
> OH2BU, for example.  Very nicely done LINUX cluster that will even take spot
s
> from you direct.   What is the counter now over 1,400,000 hits the last I
> saw of it?
>
> There are also TELNET ports to a bunch of them.
>
> As to why, the reaction time on these is a TON faster than the over the
> air versions at 1200 baud....
>
>     :)
>
> //-----------------------------
> Mike - W5WQN
> [e-mail]
> [e-mail]

How about ones that allow direct telnet access to the cluster rather
than through
a xnos firewall?
73 -Rob-
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From [e-mail] Mon Nov 25 18:46:50 1996
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From: Neal Campbell - ON9CNC <[e-mail]>
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Subject: WTB: HAL PCI4000
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If you are interested in selling a HAL PCI4000 card, please contact me
via e-mail:[e-mail]

Thanks,
Neal - ON9CNC


From [e-mail] Mon Nov 25 18:46:51 1996
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From: Clif <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Radio Repair
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Check our web site for used equipment as well as service on Kenwood and
Icom radios

http://rampages.onramp.net/~avvid

Clif
[e-mail]
AVVid is an authorized Kenwood and Icom Service Center


From [e-mail] Mon Nov 25 18:46:52 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Gary Coffman)
Subject: Re: Low Cost 1.2Ghz packet?
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In article <56spja$[e-mail]> [e-mail] writes:
>
>Down East sells a model 1296-28 transverter.  It has a 10 meter IF.
>It puts out 3 watts at 1296 mhz and is $550.
>This will interface to the WA4DSY 56k modem directly.

I didn't know they'd come out with that, Dale. But *yeow* $550?
That's pretty steep for 3 watts. That's the kind of money I paid
for my classy 20 watt SSB Electronics transverter.

Gary
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es
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From [e-mail] Mon Nov 25 18:46:53 1996
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From: [e-mail] (LIHUA CHEN)
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Subject: noise filtering software
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Hi, Netters:

   I recentely bought a multimedia PC and I am curious about
the floowing question.

     usually shortwave broadcasting are very noisy, especially
listening to far or weak station.  Are there any hardware or software
that take the output from shortwave radio (through audio output) and
perform "noise filtering" and "signal enhancing" process on PC and
send to PC's speaker?  in that way, the audio quality can be improved without
improving antena system.  Any pointer is appreciated.

 Larry Chen


From [e-mail] Mon Nov 25 18:46:54 1996
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From: Chuck Harrington <[e-mail]>
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Subject: AEA Out Of Business!?
Date: Thu, 21 Nov 1996 18:31:23 -0500
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A news item dated November 19, 1996 on the HAM RADIO ONLINE MAGAZINE
http://www.hamradio-online.com/ states that AEA, the maker of many
amateur radio products including digital TNCs (PK232, PK900 etc), is out
of business effective Friday, November 15, 1996! Other details are
available at the above sight.

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From [e-mail] Mon Nov 25 18:46:55 1996
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Subject: Re: AEA Out Of Business!?
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In Article<[e-mail]>, <[e-mail]> writes:
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et!news.gate.net!news
> From: Chuck Harrington <[e-mail]>
> Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
> Subject: AEA Out Of Business!?
> Date: Thu, 21 Nov 1996 18:31:23 -0500
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>
> A news item dated November 19, 1996 on the HAM RADIO ONLINE MAGAZINE
> http://www.hamradio-online.com/ states that AEA, the maker of many
> amateur radio products including digital TNCs (PK232, PK900 etc), is out
> of business effective Friday, November 15, 1996! Other details are
> available at the above sight.
>
> --
> Visual PacketPeT - Terminal Software For All hardware TNCs!
> Visit WEB SIGHT  - http://www.gate.net/~paketpet
> DOWNLOAD - ftp://ftp.gate.net/pub/users/paketpet/vpaket32.zip
> EMAIL - [e-mail]

Gee! Did anyone get the code that cured the problems in the
DSP-232? I just bought one and was expecting the new eprom
this month. Damn Damn Damn!!!!!



From [e-mail] Mon Nov 25 18:46:56 1996
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From: "Lorenzo" <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: pk12
Date: 22 Nov 1996 00:12:48 GMT
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please help me
is that possible to use the pk12 from aea whith f6fbb
what do i do
if you know that please send me a answer
thanks for your help
73 all the best
from
laurent


From [e-mail] Mon Nov 25 18:46:57 1996
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Subject: Compaq series 2690 info needed
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I purchased a Compaq series 2690 notebook pc at a recent
hamfest. The system needs power supply and batteries. I
would appreciate any info you can provide me with. Thanks!
I hope to use for packet.





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From: [e-mail]
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Subject: hp vectra ls/12 pc info needed
Date: Thu, 21 Nov 96 20:23:02 edt
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I recently bought a hp vectra ls/12 laptop model d1024a. I
am in need of info about the pc including power requirements
and battery type. This is one of two small systems I got a
a tremendous price at a hamfest. I hope to get at least one
of them up on packet. Thanks!





From [e-mail] Mon Nov 25 18:46:59 1996
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From: Bob Sull <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Sound Blaster 16 Spectral display & Filtering FREEWARE
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
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Tim Connolly wrote:
>
> KW5Q wrote:
> >
> > I have uploaded to Simtel.Net:
> >
> > http://www.simtel.net/pub/simtelnet/msdos/hamradio/sbfft11.zip
> > ftp://ftp.simtel.net/pub/simtelnet/msdos/hamradio/sbfft11.zip   1032518 by
tes
> >
> > sbfft11.zip     Sound Blaster spectral display and filtering
> >
> > Features:
> >  * Sound Blaster 16 (or 100% compatible) input and output.
> >  * Band widths of 2K, 4K, 8K or 16K Hz.
> >  * Spectral resolutions of 1 Hz to 16 Hz per pixel.
> >  * Display of power spectral density with any of 4 color maps in either
> >     linear or logarithmic scale.
> >  * Define and use as many as to six filters simultaneously -- band pass,
> >     band stop, low pass, and high pass.
> >  * Filters are defined graphically by mouse movement based upon
> >     the displayed spectrum.  Once you see a signal, you can
> >     quickly define a pass or stop filter around the signal by clicking
> >     and dragging the mouse.
> >  * Net filter passband is displayed at all times.
> >  * Filters can be selectively enabled and disabled by a single
> >     keystroke.
> >
> > Special requirements: DOS 3.0 or higher, SB16 or 100% compatible, SVGA,
> >                       VESA modes 101, 105, mouse.
> >
> > Copyrighted Freeware.  Uploaded by the author.
> >
> > Kevin - KW5Q
> >
> > [e-mail]
> >
> > $$e^{-\frac12 K^2} \frac d{dK} e^{\frac12 K^2}e^{\sqrt{in}}$$
> > Kevin McWilliams
> > KW5Q
> > Applied Mathematician
>
> Could you explain what this software is used for, thanks!
> Sounds like something I have been interested in.
>
> -- Tim Connolly
> -- Vienna Computer Services & World Wide Web Advertising
> -- http://www.midohiovalley.com/vcs
> -- mailto:[e-mail]

Better yet, explain what this has to do with DX?

Later,
Bob
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          >DXCC  WAS  RCC <  >8P9BC<
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From [e-mail] Mon Nov 25 18:47:00 1996
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From: Chuck Harrington <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: AEA Out Of Business!?
Date: Thu, 21 Nov 1996 22:35:16 -0500
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[e-mail] wrote:
>
> Gee! Did anyone get the code that cured the problems in the
> DSP-232? I just bought one and was expecting the new eprom
> this month. Damn Damn Damn!!!!!

They say they are still going to honor their warranties, but I don't
know where that leaves folks like you who are waiting on firmware.
Messages regarding this posted in rec.radio.amateur.misc suggest that
they are / have sold off their product lines. Perhaps another company
will pick up the DSP-232 and carry the ball forward. Time will tell I
guess.

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DOWNLOAD - ftp://ftp.gate.net/pub/users/paketpet/vpaket32.zip
EMAIL - [e-mail]


From [e-mail] Mon Nov 25 18:47:02 1996
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From: Chuck Harrington <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: W95 Generic Terminal Prog.
Date: Thu, 21 Nov 1996 22:40:35 -0500
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To: "James W. Barr" <[e-mail]>

James W. Barr wrote:
>
> Another suggestion is to use a program called PacketPet for Windows.
> This is not a native Win95 program (it's Win31), but it runs very well
> under Win95.  It has a TON of features, but you don't have to use them
> all.  It works quite well with my MFJ 1270 TN.  It even "speaks" the call
> letters of the station to which you are connected!

>I have had ZERO luck
> finding this program on the 'net, but it is on AOL.  If you want it, check
> out AOL or I can put it in my FTP site temporarily for you to get or I
> could e-mail it to you.  It's big, about 1.2mb, but I think it is one of
> the best TNC programs for Windows out there.
>
> : Packet wb4mle@wb4mle.#cenal.al.usa.noam
>

Jim, thanks for your kind words and please note the sights for Visual
Packetpet
listed below. It is also at the QRZ and TAPR sights, though the Web
sight below
will always have the current version of Visual PacketPeT Light. (current
v3.2)

73 Chuck
Visual PacketPeT / AKA PacketPeT For Windows!

--------------------------------------------------

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From [e-mail] Mon Nov 25 18:47:03 1996
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Subject: Re: looking to get a Hand held Ham Radio.
Date: 22 Nov 1996 03:58:38 GMT
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In <[e-mail]>, Joe Giraudo <[e-mail]> writes:
>R. A. Green wrote:
>>
>> On 16 Nov 1996 07:03:33 GMT, [e-mail] (Rob Turner)
>> wrote:
>>
>> >looking to get a Hand held Ham Radio.
>> >If there is anyone selling or giveing one away please email me.
>> >adam turner
>> >[e-mail]
>> >
>> Hell, if there's anyone giving one away, email me too!
>>
>> --ronPosted in Rec.Amateur.Boatanchors?
>
>Tube type hand held?

  Sure, those 90 volt B batterys are getting a little long in the tooth :-(=)

                                                                Jim



From [e-mail] Mon Nov 25 18:47:04 1996
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From: Ken Harris <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Newbie Q: radio & modem?
Date: Thu, 21 Nov 1996 20:52:49 -0800
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What's a good beginner radio and modem?  I'd like to
get into satellite packet at some point.

        I like the idea of using a PC as a TNC (with just a
UART in hardware).  The Baycom modems seem cool.

--
---
Ken J. Harris
voice:  415/969-7896 x 15, 800/477-9008 x 15,   fax:    [phone]
mailto:[e-mail]        http://www.shoreline-studios.com
smail:  1804 N. Shoreline Blvd, Mountain View, CA 94043-1320
ICBM:   lat=37.4182816, lon=-122.0779037


From [e-mail] Mon Nov 25 18:47:04 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Bob Bergman)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: AEA Out Of Business!?
Date: Thu, 21 Nov 1996 22:15:31 -0700
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In article <[e-mail]>,
[e-mail] wrote:
> EMAIL - [e-mail]
>
>Gee! Did anyone get the code that cured the problems in the
>DSP-232? I just bought one and was expecting the new eprom
>this month. Damn Damn Damn!!!!!
>
It would be nice if AEA would post the code to the net so we
could download it and burn our own firmware to fix these
problems!


--<Bob Bergman>[e-mail]



From [e-mail] Mon Nov 25 18:47:05 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Paul Richardson)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: WA4DSY 56k
Date: Fri, 22 Nov 1996 05:47:16 GMT
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How does paccomm sells the 56k modem thanks.

ve9vw
Paul Richardson (VE9VW)
[e-mail]
http://geocities.com/siliconvalley/4353


From [e-mail] Mon Nov 25 18:47:06 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Timothy J Salo)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: IP Address
Date: 21 Nov 1996 23:56:20 -0600
Organization: University of Minnesota
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In article <56vb2r$[e-mail]>,
Brian Kantor <[e-mail]> wrote:
>As an experimental network, there is some routing of parts of network 44
>to and from the rest of the internet.
>       [...]

Is the 44 net announced as a single 44.0.0.0/8, or are various pieces
of it announced at various places, (fairly experimental, at least
from the Internet side)?

Thanks,
        -tjs


From [e-mail] Mon Nov 25 18:47:07 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Lawrence M. Koga)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc,rec.radio.swap,comp.sys.laptop
Subject: FS:T1000SE Laptop
Date: 22 Nov 1996 07:45:27 GMT
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Toshiba T1000SE Laptop, CGA Backlit screen very nice

2Meg Ram card included

Battery is average 1 Hour.  The power supply died a long time ago.  I have
a cigarette lighter adapter which powers and charges the battery

I have Paket software on the ram card.

$ 175+shipping

73's, Lawrence NH6NJ


Keywords:



From [e-mail] Mon Nov 25 18:47:08 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Tommy Karlberg)
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Subject: Re: T.A.P.R. 1.1.9
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[e-mail] (ik8enh) wrote:

>Any news ???
>Tks in advance,
>Nino

Works fine 4 me.




From [e-mail] Mon Nov 25 18:47:08 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Lawrence M. Koga)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: FS:T1000 Laptop
Date: 22 Nov 1996 08:05:36 GMT
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Toshiba T1000 Laptop, The Original.

768K Ram card included

Battery is average 2 Hours.  I lost the power supply so I replace the plug
with a standard one.  I use a Radio Shack 9V battery eliminator.

I have Paket software on the ram card.

$ 95+shipping

73's, Lawrence NH6NJ


Keywords:



From [e-mail] Mon Nov 25 18:47:09 1996
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From: [e-mail] (John D. Seney, WD1V,   LeCroy T&M   800.553.2769)
Subject: Re: AEA Out Of Business!?
Organization: MV Communications, Inc.
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In article <[e-mail]>,
[e-mail] wrote:
> >
> > A news item dated November 19, 1996 on the HAM RADIO ONLINE MAGAZINE
> > http://www.hamradio-online.com/ states that AEA, the maker of many
> > amateur radio products including digital TNCs (PK232, PK900 etc), is out
> > of business effective Friday, November 15, 1996! Other details are
> > available at the above sight.
> >
> > --
> > Visual PacketPeT - Terminal Software For All hardware TNCs!
> > Visit WEB SIGHT  - http://www.gate.net/~paketpet
> > DOWNLOAD - ftp://ftp.gate.net/pub/users/paketpet/vpaket32.zip
> > EMAIL - [e-mail]
>
> Gee! Did anyone get the code that cured the problems in the
> DSP-232? I just bought one and was expecting the new eprom
> this month. Damn Damn Damn!!!!!

Date: 21 Nov 1996 11:14:14 -0900
Priority: Urgent
From: "Bruce Gordon" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Macnet Members on Internet List Update
To: "John Seney" <[e-mail]>

Just got off the phone with Mike Lamb.  It is true.  AEA is history and he
only has hopes of selling the product line if possible.  Also a side notefor
the Mac users of the DSP-2232, If anyone would like to get the MacRatt III
software fixed for the DSP-2232, the author needs a box to test with, and
debug the code. I have his email address, and I am sure we could work
something out. Message me if you could part with some hardware for a few
months.   Bruce AL7AQ
  Bruce Gordon * Debora Gordon R.N.         Bruce's Trading Post
        P.O. Box EXI                        Excursion Inlet South
     Juneau, Alaska 99850               Excursion Inlet, Alaska 99850

    University of Alaska            Remote Weather Data Collection Site
   [e-mail]               AL7AQ@KL7HFI * KL7WJ@KL7HFI
    [e-mail]                  Wards Cove Packing Co.

       ****  Have bandwidth and connection   Will communicate  ****

John D. Seney
http://www.mv.com/ipusers/wd1v


From [e-mail] Mon Nov 25 18:47:10 1996
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From: [e-mail] (William B James)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: packet with Sound Blaster?
Date: 22 Nov 96 15:05:32 GMT
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Hi
wondered is anyone knows of a program that will
decode 300 baud hf and 1200 baud vhf packet
with a 16 bit sound card?
thanks
Bruce kb8kac


From [e-mail] Mon Nov 25 18:47:11 1996
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From: [e-mail]
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Subject: Save 80% On Your Grocery Bills!!!
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What has this garbage got to do with Digital Communications ???


From [e-mail] Mon Nov 25 18:47:12 1996
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From: "Brian E. Cauchi" <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: RTTY-SOUNBLASTER WANTED!!!
Date: 22 Nov 1996 18:32:06 GMT
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Take a look at my site, on:

        http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/2504/ftv.htm

Cheerio, from Brian.




From [e-mail] Mon Nov 25 18:47:13 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Howard Sherer)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc,rec.radio.swap
Subject: FS add up to 4 additional comm ports with hi irq to your pc
Date: 22 Nov 1996 19:06:16 GMT
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For Sale, isa bus card to add up to 4 additional comm ports to your pc
using high and selectable irq's. Works great, I have run out of isa slots
on my shack pc and cant use it anymore. $40. Howard AE3T


From [e-mail] Mon Nov 25 18:47:14 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Dave Rickmers)
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Subject: Re: Sound Blaster 16 Spectral display & Filtering FREEWARE
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Bob Sull <[e-mail]> wrote:


>> > $$e^{-\frac12 K^2} \frac d{dK} e^{\frac12 K^2}e^{\sqrt{in}}$$

>> Could you explain what this software is used for, thanks!
>> Sounds like something I have been interested in.
>>

>
>Better yet, explain what this has to do with DX?
>
You could use it to make difficult signals easier to copy, remove
heterodynes, etc.  Like the Watkins-Johnson dsp only cheaper.
dr



From [e-mail] Mon Nov 25 18:47:15 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Edward Lewis)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: MFJ 1278B Fax
Date: Fri, 22 Nov 1996 20:47:30 GMT
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I am using a MFJ 1278 B Data controller to receive weather fax. I am
using the Multicom software and the manual doesn't tell how to center
the pictures. I usually have 2\3 on one side and 1\3 on the other.
could someone who is using this software help me.


From [e-mail] Mon Nov 25 18:47:16 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Tim Smith)
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In article <[e-mail]>,
   [e-mail] (Dave Rickmers) wrote:

>You could use it to make difficult signals easier to copy, remove
>heterodynes, etc.  Like the Watkins-Johnson dsp only cheaper.
>dr
>


Can you tell me what the s/w is called and where I could d/l it?

Thanks,

Tim N1BTQ


From [e-mail] Mon Nov 25 18:47:17 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Dave Rickmers)
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Subject: Re: Sound Blaster 16 Spectral display & Filtering FREEWARE
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[e-mail] (Tim Smith) wrote:


>Can you tell me what the s/w is called and where I could d/l it?
>
>> http://www.simtel.net/pub/simtelnet/msdos/hamradio/sbfft11.zip
>> ftp://ftp.simtel.net/pub/simtelnet/msdos/hamradio/sbfft11.zip   1032518 byt
es
>>
>> sbfft11.zip     Sound Blaster spectral display and filtering
dr


From [e-mail] Mon Nov 25 18:47:18 1996
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From: [e-mail]
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: WA4DSY 56k
Date: Fri, 22 Nov 96 18:02:09 PDT
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In Article<[e-mail]>, <[e-mail]> write:
> Path:
news.radio.org!cssun.mathcs.emory.edu!news-feed-1.peachnet.edu!gatech!csulb.ed
u
!hammer.uoregon.edu!hunter.premier.net!news.nl.innet.net!INnl.net!feed1.news.e
r
ols.com!uunet!in3.uu.net!ott.istar!istar.net!news.nstn.ca!coranto.ucs.mun.ca!n
e
ws.unb.ca!agate.nbnet.nb.ca!news
> From: [e-mail] (Paul Richardson)
> Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
> Subject: WA4DSY 56k
> Date: Fri, 22 Nov 1996 05:47:16 GMT
> Organization: NBNet.nb.ca
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> Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
> Reply-To: [e-mail]
> NNTP-Posting-Host: mctnts03c45.nbnet.nb.ca
> X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.1/32.230
>
> How does paccomm sells the 56k modem thanks.
>
> ve9vw
> Paul Richardson (VE9VW)
> [e-mail]
> http://geocities.com/siliconvalley/4353

Paul,

Connect to http://www.wa4dsy.radio.org/ and check out this
sight. Dale, WA4DSY, is the maker of this 56k modem and has
a web page on all of the specs. for this modem.

73

KD6CLO
John




From [e-mail] Mon Nov 25 18:47:20 1996
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From: David Woolley <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: IP Address
Date: Sat, 23 Nov 1996 01:12:48 GMT
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In article <572fq9$[e-mail]>,
Jens David -DG1KJD- <[e-mail]> wrote:

>
>Well, what did you expect? :-)
>Obviously not every IP frame to hosts within the amprnet go via mirrorshades,
>obviously some (or should I say "some subnets"?) are announced individually.

The address you quote is not in the amateur radio network (44.0.0.0/8);
it was in a "normal" class C network.  Domain names (ampr.net) are much
more flexible than IP addresses and reflect an administrative, not a
physical network, structure.  Your example doesn't disprove the
hypothesis that all of 44.0.0.0/8 is routed through mirrorshades - I
would thing a single interconnect point would be the most likely case.

>Distribution: all

Used on USENET this is likely to have either no effect, or restrict
distribution in arbitrary ways.  It is not one of the few more or less
universally recognized ones.
--
David Woolley, London, England          [e-mail]
(Sending any email to this site constitutes a licence to copy it to any
company which might reasonably be assumed to have transported it or
might reasonably be assumed to service any addresses quoted in it. 15Sep1996)



From [e-mail] Mon Nov 25 18:47:21 1996
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From: [e-mail] (David Woolley)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: IP Number
Date: Sat, 23 Nov 1996 01:23:56 GMT
Organization: Demon Subscriber at Home
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In article <[e-mail]>,
Tim Connolly  <[e-mail]> wrote:
>
> If your using windows, goto DOS and type:   ping kb8uum.ampr.org
>
>I see you as : 44.102.16.75

This will not work in all cases; it is relying on a side effect of ping
implementations and assuming a rather more restrictive choice of software
than simply Windows.

Versions of nslookup do exist for Windows.  NT 4, has one included.
--
David Woolley, London, England          [e-mail]
(Sending any email to this site constitutes a licence to copy it to any
company which might reasonably be assumed to have transported it or
might reasonably be assumed to service any addresses quoted in it. 15Sep1996)



From [e-mail] Mon Nov 25 18:47:22 1996
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From: [e-mail]
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: LCD 4x20 displays for sale....cheap
Date: 23 Nov 1996 01:29:46 GMT
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I have some 4x20 character displays for sale at $8.95 each.  They are new
and are compatible with Optrex and the Hitachi standard.  They have a 14
pin interface.  If you are interested, please E-mail me.

Thanks in advance,
Walt


From [e-mail] Mon Nov 25 18:47:23 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Eddie Seymour)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: W95 Generic Terminal Prog.
Date: Sat, 23 Nov 1996 01:56:34 GMT
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In this news thread Chuck Harrington commented:

>James W. Barr wrote:
>>
>> Another suggestion is to use a program called PacketPet for Windows.

>Visit WEB SIGHT  - http://www.gate.net/~paketpet
>DOWNLOAD - ftp://ftp.gate.net/pub/users/paketpet/vpaket32.zip
Tried PacketPet v3.2- A very nice program but is much more complex
than I need.

Eddie Seymour, WB4MLE
E-Mail [e-mail]

Packet wb4mle@wb4mle.#cenal.al.usa.noam


From [e-mail] Mon Nov 25 18:47:24 1996
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From: Chuck Harrington <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: W95 Generic Terminal Prog.
Date: Fri, 22 Nov 1996 22:07:16 -0500
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Eddie Seymour wrote:
>
> A very nice program but is much more complex
> than I need.
>
> Eddie Seymour, WB4MLE
> E-Mail [e-mail]

Thats a first! First time the software did too much! :-)
Which features do you actually want? Just Curious...

--
Visual PacketPeT - Terminal Software For All hardware TNCs!
Visit WEB SIGHT  - http://www.gate.net/~paketpet
DOWNLOAD - ftp://ftp.gate.net/pub/users/paketpet/vpaket32.zip
EMAIL - [e-mail]


From [e-mail] Mon Nov 25 18:47:25 1996
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William Vynck wrote:
>
> MICHAEL J DRUM wrote:
> >
> > Greetings,
> >
> > I want to buy a Kenwood IF-10D Computer interface for my TS-60. If you
> > have one for sale please contact me at my Email address and let me know
> > the details. I will answer all reply's sent.
> >
> > Thank You.
> >
> > Mike>
>
> DONT BUY !!
>
> To expencive, i could send you the chematics to build one.
>
> 73
> William

Build, ha! Many of us "appliance operators" are either too busy to build
or don't know one end of a soldering iron from the other.

Besides, OEM equipment always looks so much nicer.

Radio Randy.


From [e-mail] Mon Nov 25 18:47:27 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Gary Coffman)
Subject: Re: Newbie Q: radio & modem?
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
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In article <[e-mail]> Ken Harris <kjh@shoreline-stu
dios.com> writes:
>What's a good beginner radio and modem?  I'd like to
>get into satellite packet at some point.

If you want to get into satellite packet, you don't want a
beginner radio or modem.

>       I like the idea of using a PC as a TNC (with just a
>UART in hardware).  The Baycom modems seem cool.

Baycom doesn't use a hardware UART. It bit bangs, implementing
a USART in software (note USART, not UART, packet uses *synchronous*
HDLC, and a UART can only handle *asynchronous* data). The only
added hardware used in the Baycom system is a simple modem chip (which
is obsolete and out of production, though still available in limited
quantities from some distributors).

To do satellite packet, you need all-mode radios for at least
2m and 70cm (and preferably for 23cm and 13cm too considering
the imminent launch of P3D). And you need 1200 baud PSK and
9600 baud FSK modems (and something in the 38.4 to 256 kb
range for P3D's advanced modes, stay tuned for more info on
that). The simple Baycom system won't work for any of that.
The ideal solution is a DSP modem (but with AEA now defunct,
the range of choices for viable DSP modems has become very
limited at the moment).

The *minimum* system for satellite packet is a duplex dual
bander and a 9600 baud G3RUH style FSK packet modem coupled to
a TNC or a synchronous interface like the Ottawa PI2 card.
The problem is, none of the current crop of dual banders is
*actually* 9600 baud ready, advertising claims not withstanding.
So the reality is that you still need the all-mode radio, IE
an IC821H or FT736R, to do satellite packet properly.

Note, if you're willing (and skilled enough), you can cobble
a workable 9600 baud satellite station up from commercial surplus
radios such as a high band Mastr II and UHF Micor, or the like,
for much less money than an all-mode amateur rig. This is cut and
paste, however, and probably not something for a beginner to tackle.

If you just want to get your feet wet in packet, and realize
you'll have to get something else when you move on to satellite
packet, then a Baycom and an Alinco DR-1200 2m packet rig, or
virtually any other 2m rig, will do. If you want to start out
on 9600 baud, the little 70cm TEKK radio is cheap and effective.
You'll need to buy a real modem and digital interface, however,
the Baycom won't hack 9600 baud.

(Note to avoid confusion, the Baycom folks have a 9600 baud
modem too, but that is *very* different from their regular
"dongle" product.)

Gary
--
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Destructive Testing Systems |    we break it.     | with previous uucp address
es
534 Shannon Way             |    Guaranteed!      | Email to [e-mail]
Lawrenceville, GA 30244     |                     |


From [e-mail] Mon Nov 25 18:47:27 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Gary Coffman)
Subject: Re: WA4DSY 56k
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In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] writes:
>How does paccomm sells the 56k modem thanks.

Cash, VISA, Mastercard, or a check on a US bank.

Gary
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Destructive Testing Systems |    we break it.     | with previous uucp address
es
534 Shannon Way             |    Guaranteed!      | Email to [e-mail]
Lawrenceville, GA 30244     |                     |


From [e-mail] Mon Nov 25 18:47:29 1996
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From: Steve Stroh <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: Our Purpose: Amateur Radio
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On 16 Nov 1996, Dick Mock wrote:

>
> I see a lot of discussion here that leans toward the viewpoint that
> ham radio is justifyable only if it is on the leading edge of radio
> technology.  The context of these comments usually is with emphasis on
>
> digital technology.
>
> Certainly ham radio is a platform for experimentation and indeed does
> "... contribute to the advancement of the radio art."
> That's Part 97.1(b), but only one of the five purposes of the Amateur
> Radio Service as defined in Part 97.1.

I can recommend Lyle Johnson WA7GXD's speech made at the 1996 ARRL and
TAPR Digital Communications Conference.  It is transcribed at the TAPR Web
Site (http://www.tapr.org, look for Digital Conference).  In his speech,
Lyle discusses the exact points that Dick raises.  Of the original
purposes for the creation of the Amateur Radio Service, only advancement
of the radio art is likely to remain relevant in the next few years.

Read it for yourself (or hear it for yourself if you're RealAudio
capable.)

Disclaimer- I transcribed Lyle's speech.


Steve N8GNJ

--
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From: [e-mail] (Bob)
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Subject: Re: *** AEA DSP-232 only $ 379.00 ***
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I am amused!

Well, OK, I'm really not amused...

Given that AEA is in the process of selling off their residual
production to go out of business, I am just amazed at this impressive
good deal R&L Electronics is offering...  NOT!!

It sure looks to me that they're all too willing to screw a few
customers to solve their stock problems...

Wouldn't it have been a little more fair of you to caveat your ad here
with the note that they who buy AEA products now do so with little to
no possibility of product support, since AEA is about to go belly up?
Oh well, bidness is bidness!!!

As always: caveat emptor.  I'll remember this ad next time I'm
shopping for gear...

Bob

Roger Smallwood <[e-mail]> wrote:

>New Special AEA DSP-232 all mode DSP tnc only $379.00
>
>for more info call [phone] or
>email [e-mail]
>
>--
>Thanks!!
>Roger N8EKG
>R&L Electronics
>[e-mail]



From [e-mail] Mon Nov 25 18:47:31 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Gary Coffman)
Subject: Re: Our Purpose: Amateur Radio
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In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Dick Mock) writes:
>
>I see a lot of discussion here that leans toward the viewpoint that
>ham radio is justifyable only if it is on the leading edge of radio
>technology.  The context of these comments usually is with emphasis on
>digital technology.
>
>Certainly ham radio is a platform for experimentation and indeed does
>"... contribute to the advancement of the radio art."
>That's Part 97.1(b), but only one of the five purposes of the Amateur
>Radio Service as defined in Part 97.1.

Correct, but purposes (c) and (d) also demand technical leadership
to sharpen our skills with SOTA technique. And the SOTA is definitely
in the digital arena.

>None of the puposes described here requires that the Amateur Radio
>Service prove it's worth by defining the edge of technology.

Well, I'd contend 97.1(b) does, and 97.1(d) certainly insists that
we be au currant if we are to form a pool of trained technicians and
electronics experts. (There's little demand for experts in obsolete
technique.) Note that the amateur service is intended to serve as a
reserve job training program for military and industrial needs. That's
fullfilled by goals (c) and (d).

>On the contrary,
>we, without pecuniary interest, cannot be expected to produce new
>technology. It is in spite of that handicap, that we sometimes do.

I would suggest that it is *because* of that *advantage* that we
sometimes do. We aren't restricted by demand for quarterly bottom
line results, we aren't pressured by marketing to get half baked
products out the door, and we are free to pursue avenues of research
which may not pay off for 10 to 20 years (if then). Those operating
"for profit" don't take that long view. They only pay engineers to
develop the "sure things" on time and on budget, and sure things are
rarely ever truly new or innovative because the new and the innovative
requires exploring uncharted waters. Amateurs enjoy a freedom to
follow wherever their curiosity and interest leads them precisely
because their family's livelyhood doesn't depend on "sure thing"
success in their explorations.

It is exactly that sort of freedom which has brought us most technical
innovation. That sort of freedom is seldom seen in industry today.
Bell Labs used to offer it, Sarnoff Labs used to offer it, but no
more. Only the government's national labs, and a very few universities,
are allowing that sort of free range of inquiry today, and most of that
is driven by a cutthroat grantsmanship and a publish or perish syndrome
which isn't conducive to good results. Amateurs still have that freedom
so essential to true innovation.

Most of the really breakthrough ideas are "table top science". The huge
government and industrial labs can tackle the heavy iron projects which
establish another decimal point, but it is the quiet table top science
which most often brings the totally unexpected breakthroughs.

In communications today, the table top is a computer keyboard and
screen since many of the most promising communications advances
are almost wholly software driven. Software is the ultimate cottage
endeavor. It doesn't require lots of money, just a computer and an
inquiring mind with the time and peace to contemplate new approaches.
That time and freedom from pressure for bottom line results has become
almost the exclusive province of amateurs.

Amateurs rarely achieve commercial success with their innovations,
and that's as it should be. Amateur radio is not intended to be
a "for profit" track of patents and commercial production and
marketing. But many of the ideas first held by amateurs, and freely
distributed by them to anyone who wishes to use them, *do* find their
way into commerical products once amateurs have turned them from
uncharted waters to the "sure things" a commercial R&D manager will
let his engineers tackle.

As an immodest example, I'd suggest you look back through the
archives a few years to the posts where I first proposed using
TIL agents for distributed network computing, and then compare
that to something called an applet in a product called Java.
The web didn't even exist back when I came up with those ideas,
but the limited resources of amateur radio computer networks
led me to the idea of reducing network bandwidth consumption
by distributing autonomous processes to off-load the network
from having to pass every bit produced by an application's
computations to the end user. Other amateurs may not have
embraced that idea, but the web certainly has.

Gary
--
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Destructive Testing Systems |    we break it.     | with previous uucp address
es
534 Shannon Way             |    Guaranteed!      | Email to [e-mail]
Lawrenceville, GA 30244     |                     |


From [e-mail] Mon Nov 25 18:47:32 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Jim Hopkins)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: AEA Out Of Business!?
Date: 23 Nov 1996 12:26:40 GMT
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Bob Bergman ([e-mail]) wrote:
: It would be nice if AEA would post the code to the net so we
: could download it and burn our own firmware to fix these
: problems!
:
: --<Bob Bergman>[e-mail]
:

Bob was writing about the DSP-232. AEA's PK-12 also had a serious firmware
bug that would not let it make connects with 2 addresses in the
destination, which effectively made it useless for connecting via a ROSE
switch. They did produce a fix for it but I don't know how well it was
distributed. What really bothered me about that was that the PK-12
was an 'entry-level' TNC and if it didn't work, a new user was likely
to believe that he or she was doing something wrong, rather than the
code in the TNC being farbled up. And AEA's tech support was *not*
helpful with this problem. It took escalation to a VP of the company
with *my* troubleshooting results proving the problem to get it fixed.

maintain,
Hopkins



From [e-mail] Mon Nov 25 18:47:34 1996
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From: [e-mail] (ik8enh)
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Subject: Re: Internet packet cluster
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[e-mail] wrote:

>Is there such a thing as an internet-based packet cluster?  If so, what's
>the address?  If not, why not?

>73,
>  WD0EWJ

Yes yes yes ....you can make telnet to the following :

[GUIDE TO SELECT Clusters ON INTERNET ]
[(C)1996 ,Nino Molaro IK8ENH ]
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WU3V                                                  206.104.42.245
WD5B                                                  206.153.72.61
WD5B                                            sapgate.freeway.net

WD5B                                                  205.153.140.12
KC8FT                                                 206.153.72.61
KC8FT                                           sapgate.freeway.net

KC8FT                                                 205.153.140.12
KC8FT                                                 204.183.221.30
PY2XB                                                 143.108.1.123
N6ND                                                  128.49.212.82
NO4J                                                  207.98.193.11
KA4PKB                                                205.241.25.11
N5UXT                                                 44.108.2.31
N7TR                                                  206.14.170.172
W5AU                                                  207.101.37.15
K9FN                                                  44.69.108.1
F6CNB                                                 44.69.108.1
NHDX                                                 amrad.keene.edu

WP4K  KP4RF (?)                                       136.145.86.159
VE1DXC                                                131.114.192.6
IK5PWJ                                                131.114.192.6
NO4J                                                  131.114.192.6
WD5B                                                  131.114.192.6
KC8FT                                                 131.114.192.6
KS9K                                                  205.159.78.4
N9DKI                                                 128.46.140.168
KF5XV                                                 207.22.208.22
WA5PIE                                                205.148.193.32
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JE3YEK                                                130.54.29.215
R3ARES                                                147.45.1.2
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From: [e-mail] (Eddie Seymour)
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Subject: Re: W95 Generic Terminal Prog.
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In this news thread Chuck Harrington commented:


>Thats a first! First time the software did too much! :-)
>Which features do you actually want? Just Curious...
>
Just a basic split-screen (about 3 lines) and about a 4 screen
scrollback. File save ok but not necessary.

Eddie Seymour, WB4MLE
E-Mail [e-mail]

Packet wb4mle@wb4mle.#cenal.al.usa.noam


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In Article<[e-mail]>, <[e-mail]> writes:
> Path:
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> >
> >Gee! Did anyone get the code that cured the problems in the
> >DSP-232? I just bought one and was expecting the new eprom
> >this month. Damn Damn Damn!!!!!
> >
> It would be nice if AEA would post the code to the net so we
> could download it and burn our own firmware to fix these
> problems!
>
>
> --<Bob Bergman>[e-mail]
>

Hams are a funny lot.  It has been announced here several times that AEA is
selling their product lines.  What do you guys think they are selling?  I am
sure it is the source code to their TNCs as well as the PCB layouts and the
sheet metal drawings.

I have had my DSP-232 for about a year now.  AEA has been working on the code
for that amount of time plus their development time.  I am sure the value of
the product is the engineering time that went into the writing the code.  Do
you expect them to give it away?

I got upgrade EPROMs for my DSP in the mail two days ago.  They are working
for me.

Bill



From [e-mail] Mon Nov 25 18:47:38 1996
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From: Erich <[e-mail]>
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Subject: TEKK KS-960  tuning
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Hello All,

I need to adjust the receive frequency of my TEKK KS-960.  Which of
the variable capacitors is the right one to tweak?

Erich   KA6AMD   DM15bp
[e-mail]


From [e-mail] Mon Nov 25 18:47:38 1996
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From: David Cooley <[e-mail]>
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Subject: pk80
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Is the latest firmware for the PK-80 1.1.2?
If not, where can I get newer?
Tnx,
Dave

--
=================================================================
David Cooley           A.K.A. N5XMT            [e-mail]
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As with ETHERAX25 program, this allows to trick DOS TCP/IP programs
to believe it is talking to LAN card, so that Internet programs
can be used on amateur radio. Has anyone seen a program to allow
the same for OS/2 inbuilt TCP/IP to talk on ax.25 network ?

So in short, I am looking for AX.25 driver for OS/2. OS/2 has been
very good (Merlin Version 4 even better), so would like to use
more of it's inbuilt features.


73's
Ken VK4KWM


From [e-mail] Mon Nov 25 18:47:40 1996
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From: [e-mail]
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Subject: Re: Digital & Analog
Date: 24 Nov 1996 04:06:19 GMT
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When you think of digital information think of a radar "blip" or sonar
"ping" or morse code "dit" or "dah".  Where analog signals are more like
waves.  Since all forms of propagation get worn down (attenuated) going
thru the atmosphere, the analog "waves" can wear down to almost nothing
and get lost in the noise.  But digital will also wear down it is easier
for the receiver to discriminate between the signal and the background
noise.
Also, digital technologies are RELATIVELY new and not every one has a
computer or digital device to receive the signal.  That's one of the
reasons why one of sales pitches for digital phones as being more secure.
DISCLAIMER: I'm not an expert, My radar tech. days are 2 decades past.
But I thought this is a slightly more understandable explaination than an
earlier one.
Ron
KE6UDO


From [e-mail] Mon Nov 25 18:47:41 1996
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From: [e-mail] (paulyim)
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Subject: How is packet?
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Hi there!
I am new at this hobby and trying to set up packet gear. Now I got the
2M going in voice.  I don't find anything intersting or exciting on
the idea of connecting 1200 baud on packet, say compared to Internet.
Please someone tell me why I should have a packet when things like
internet or BBS is going on 28.8K baud.

Paul Yim,
[e-mail]



From [e-mail] Mon Nov 25 18:47:42 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Marty Albert)
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Subject: Bulletin Export Files Available
Date: Sun, 24 Nov 1996 04:38:02 GMT
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Hello, Folks:

I now have Packet Bulletin Export Files available on my Home Page.

The files are split by distribution group. I now have the following
available: ALLUSA, WW, EU, CANADA, ARRL, AMSAT, and NASA, and many
others. Others may be added as needed.

Files will be posted daily and should be online after about Noon
Central Time.

Just point your Netscape 3.0 or MS Inetrnet Explorer 3.0 browser at:

   http://www.trucom.com/ppages/marty

and go to the Amateur Radio area. The rest should be clear to all.

NOTE: New export files by distribution are being added almost daily!
Many thanks to all who are sending me their BBS exprts via attached
E-Mail for inclusion!

I can always use more folks sending their export files. Please
consider sending me yours via attached E-Mail! The more I get, the
more that will be available for all.

Take Care & 73



Marty Albert - [e-mail]
Amateur Radio: KC6UFM@KC6UFM.#SEMO.MO.USA.NOAM

Heartland Internet Services

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From [e-mail] Mon Nov 25 18:47:43 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Joel E. Davis)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Wx sat freqs
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Greetings and hello, I just got interested in weather sat. reception.
Downloaded JVFax6.10, built the 741 interface. Now I need more info. How about

a list of freqs for NOAA & Meteor. Going to try to use 2004 or 2006 Rat Shack
scanner. Have other radios that can be modified if they don't work right.
Tnks joe K5ZCX


From [e-mail] Mon Nov 25 18:47:44 1996
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From: xx@xx.x (K. S.)
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Subject: Re: MFJ 1278B Fax
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[e-mail] (Edward Lewis) wrote:

>I am using a MFJ 1278 B Data controller to receive weather fax. I am
>using the Multicom software and the manual doesn't tell how to center
>the pictures. I usually have 2\3 on one side and 1\3 on the other.
>could someone who is using this software help me.

Hi, on my side the same problem !

vy 73 , Karl - AUSTRIA



From [e-mail] Mon Nov 25 18:47:45 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Rob Janssen)
Subject: Re: Low cost 1.2GHz packet?
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In <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Gary Coffman)
 writes:

>In article <56lu1h$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (phil reed) writes:
>>It occured to me that a way to build an inexpensive packet backbone link on
>>1.2GHz would be to take an existing 9600 baud 2M FM radio and run it into a
>>Down East Microwave transverter. Is there any reason this wouldn't work?

>The big problem is frequency stability. You'll need to ovenize the
>oscillators, and probably employ some compensation too, in order to
>keep them netted. AFC may help too, but that can lead to a very long
>Txd as the receiving station has to acquire lock with the transmitter
>of the moment before it can start to decode the packet.

Our network is linked on 1.2 GHz all the way, and frequency stability
is not the main problem.

I would't use transverters, though.  It is much easier and cleaner to
generate 1.2 GHz signals directly than to mix them up from 2M.
(not to mention 10M)

In Europe, the Interlink-TRX designs by DF9IC are most popular.  The
simple Interlink-TRX 1 fits on a eurocard (100x160 mm) and uses a fixed
offset of 59 MHz between RX and TX for a halfduplex link.  This means
the transmitter and local oscillator of the receiver can be (and are)
combined.
The more complex, but easier to reproduce, Interlink-TRX 3 uses separate
boards for receive and transmit, and a duplexer to allow full-duplex
operation with 59 or 28 MHz split (these values fit in the European
23cm bandplan).

Basically they are just NBFM transceivers, using the wellknown ceramic
filters on 455 KHz.  This allows AFSK or FSK operation, up to about
19k2 BPS.  (I think some links use 38k4 BPS with the Interlink-TRX 3)
The transmit signal is generated using a PLL with fixed divisor after
a crystal oscillator (the crystal is selected for the correct frequency).
The crystal oscillator is FM modulated and the PLL is fast enough to
track it, so the usual problem with G3RUH modems and PLLs does not occur.
The crystal is "ovenized" using a PTC resistor.

Of course a DSY modem will go faster, but on 23cm the total effort will
be quite high because of the dual conversion that is required.

The S53MV 1.2 Mbit/s design looks nice, but there is no room in the
23cm bandplan to allow the setup of a well-meshed network using this
kind of bandwidth.  For some fast local link it could be used, of course.

Rob
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| AMPRnet:       [e-mail] | AX.25 BBS: PE1CHL@PI8WNO.#UTR.NLD.EU |
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From [e-mail] Mon Nov 25 18:47:46 1996
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From: Bob Gebeaux <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: How is packet?
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for the same reason you might use cw ...it might be fun

regards bob



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From: [e-mail] (Paul J. Piercey)
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Subject: Re: How is packet?
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In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] wrote:
>
>Hi there!
>I am new at this hobby and trying to set up packet gear. Now I got the
>2M going in voice.  I don't find anything intersting or exciting on
>the idea of connecting 1200 baud on packet, say compared to Internet.
>Please someone tell me why I should have a packet when things like
>internet or BBS is going on 28.8K baud.
>
>Paul Yim,
>[e-mail]
>

As a packet sysop, it's usually my job to encourage people to get into packet
so that's what I'll do. Regardless of the fact that information is available
at a much higher quantity and speed via the internet, it really has nothing to

do with amateur radio, being a primarily wired environment. This would change
once everyone had a personal satellite uplink but, that's a few years off yet.

Amateur radio is a world of experimentation, or it should be, and as such,
there are those who are still working on increasing the efficiency of all the
modes therein, packet being just one of them. There are now 56KBaud packet
links in many places and 9600 baud is becoming widespread. True, the packet
world does utilize the internet for traffic forwarding and interconnection
between radio LANs but this is intended to increase efficiency also.

Personally, I find it interesting that I can take a HT, a battery operated TNC

and a battery operated laptop computer and operated packet pretty well
anywhere I can get into a node. Totally wireless. I have done a bit of
travelling and bring my portable gear whenever I can and keep up with things.

Currently, we have come in to the satellite age with the use of PACSats and
orbiting mailboxes, such as KO-23 and the MIR machine. In fact, since August
1996, we have a fulltime dedicated packet satellite link between Newfoundland,

Nova Scotia and British Columbia through the IPARN system, piggy backed on a
geostationary communications satellite.

Packet is growing but I guess too many people are getting caught up in the
hype and glamour of the internet. They are all tools or hobbies. I find packet

interesting and would like to see it continue to grow and the only way to
ensure that is for people like yourself to take the plunge and determine if
it's something you want to be a part of.

I also am involved with some of the other digital modes but that's another
topic HIHI.

73.

============================================================================
Paul J. Piercey (VO1HE)
Agent - The Mutual Group

President - Society of Newfoundland Radio Amateurs
Assistant Director, Avalon - Radio Amateurs of Canada
Sysop - VO1AAA, VO1BT

VO1HE@VO1AAA.#ENF.NF.CAN.NOAM
[e-mail]
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From [e-mail] Mon Nov 25 18:47:50 1996
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Date: Sun, 24 Nov 1996 08:59:59 -0500
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paulyim wrote:
>
> Hi there!
> I am new at this hobby and trying to set up packet gear. Now I got the
> 2M going in voice.  I don't find anything intersting or exciting on
> the idea of connecting 1200 baud on packet, say compared to Internet.
> Please someone tell me why I should have a packet when things like
> internet or BBS is going on 28.8K baud.
>
> Paul Yim,
> [e-mail]
>
Well,  It just goes to show that there are many aspects of ham radio to
whet everybodies interest.
I, for example, could care less about talking on 2 meters -
especially through a repeater - a telephone or cellular phone is much
better without all the qrm.

Just the fact that we are able to connect a radio up to a computer and
chat with other technically inclined hams is pretty exciting to me.  And
I am not confined to 1200 baud, I can connect to the internet gateway at
9600 baud and chat with hams all over the world in the ww conference.  I
realize this may not be available in every city, but if it isn't, here
is an opportunity for an enterprising individual to do something really
different.

Additionally, depending on which TNC you have, you can operate on other
modes besides packet.  There is AMTOR, PACTOR, RTTY, WEFAX, SSTV, etc.

Try it - you'll like it!

73, Gene WA4WBI


From [e-mail] Mon Nov 25 18:47:51 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Gary Coffman)
Subject: Re: AEA Out Of Business!?
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In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] w
rites:
>In Article<[e-mail]>, <[e-mail]> writes:
>> >Gee! Did anyone get the code that cured the problems in the
>> >DSP-232? I just bought one and was expecting the new eprom
>> >this month. Damn Damn Damn!!!!!
>> >
>> It would be nice if AEA would post the code to the net so we
>> could download it and burn our own firmware to fix these
>> problems!
>
>Hams are a funny lot.  It has been announced here several times that AEA is
>selling their product lines.  What do you guys think they are selling?  I am
>sure it is the source code to their TNCs as well as the PCB layouts and the
>sheet metal drawings.

It has been announced that AEA is *attempting* to sell their product
lines. If they manage to find buyers for their product lines, well
and good, we can get support from the new owners of the product line.
But (as seems somewhat likely), if they can't find a buyer for the
product line, it would be a nice gesture for them to make the source
available to their long suffering customers so we can attempt to
fix the problems ourselves. (Heck, I'd even *pay* a reasonable amount
for good commented source for some of their products.)

I'd like to see all amateur manufacturers make it a policy to release
source (under a non-commercial use copyright) for any product that they
no longer support (for whatever reason). As more and more amateur products
become dependent on microprocessor code, it is going to become harder to
keep them going after the manufacturer either abandons the product or the
manufacturer becomes defunct. I rather doubt that there are many trade
secret algorithms coded into amateur products which would be of any
commercial value after the product line is orphaned, so I don't see this
as harmful to the manufacturers. I see it as a matter of good will to the
amateur community.

Gary
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From [e-mail] Mon Nov 25 18:47:53 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Jens David DG1KJD)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: OS/2  AX.25 DRIVER ?
Date: 24 Nov 1996 14:50:56 GMT
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Hi,

In <[e-mail]>, Ken Morris <[e-mail]> writes:
>As with ETHERAX25 program, this allows to trick DOS TCP/IP programs
>to believe it is talking to LAN card, so that Internet programs
>can be used on amateur radio. Has anyone seen a program to allow
>the same for OS/2 inbuilt TCP/IP to talk on ax.25 network ?

Yep, I was working on it, but I stopped development some month ago because the
re
seemed to be no real interest in it.
However, it already works but is a little unstable and wastes a lot of CPU pow
er.
It is called "WAMPlus" (derived from WAMPES bye DK5SG/KA9Q) and was ported fro
m
the linux version.
It is easy-to-use and provides a lot of advanced features like AX25 callsign f
ilter,
KISS multiport support, flexnet support, netrom support, "autorouter" and so o
n.

I'd continue development on it if there was more interest in it.

>
>So in short, I am looking for AX.25 driver for OS/2. OS/2 has been
>very good (Merlin Version 4 even better), so would like to use
>more of it's inbuilt features.
>
>
>73's
>Ken VK4KWM

73 + 55
   Jens

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From [e-mail] Mon Nov 25 18:47:54 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Fred Moeves)
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Subject: Wefax
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        Hello All,
I need a little advice. I am looking for a program to use to download
weather fax pictures off satellites. I am using the DSP-2232 tnc.
Whitch program is the best ? I have a demo verison of AEA wefax but,
since AEA is out of business dont think I can get it. Any info would
be helpfull.
        Thanks and 73 Fred KB4QZH
        [e-mail]

73 Fred KB4QZH
[e-mail]



From [e-mail] Mon Nov 25 18:47:55 1996
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From: [e-mail] (JACK CLARKE)
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Subject: Re: How is packet?
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----- begin snip -----

Hi there!
I am new at this hobby and trying to set up packet gear. Now I got the
2M going in voice.  I don't find anything intersting or exciting on
the idea of connecting 1200 baud on packet, say compared to Internet.
Please someone tell me why I should have a packet when things like
internet or BBS is going on 28.8K baud.

Paul Yim,
[e-mail]

----- end snip -----

If your criteria is "Which one works faster?", then don't bother
with packet.  Also, don't bother with ham radio - the telephone
works faster (and better).

This is a hobby.  We play with our radios sending signals out
through the air -- not along telephone lines.  IT'S A HOBBY!



Jack                     DEFINITION: "Ham Operator" - A lonely,
VE3EED/W7                pathetic, wretch sitting in a corner
in                       somewhere - tuning around on his radio -
Mesa                     desperately trying to be important.
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From: [e-mail] (Gary Coffman)
Subject: Re: Low cost 1.2GHz packet?
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
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In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] writes:
>In <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Gary Coffman
) writes:
>>In article <56lu1h$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (phil reed) writes:
>>>It occured to me that a way to build an inexpensive packet backbone link on

>>>1.2GHz would be to take an existing 9600 baud 2M FM radio and run it into a

>>>Down East Microwave transverter. Is there any reason this wouldn't work?
>
>>The big problem is frequency stability. You'll need to ovenize the
>>oscillators, and probably employ some compensation too, in order to
>>keep them netted. AFC may help too, but that can lead to a very long
>>Txd as the receiving station has to acquire lock with the transmitter
>>of the moment before it can start to decode the packet.
>
>Our network is linked on 1.2 GHz all the way, and frequency stability
>is not the main problem.

Tell us what *is* the main problem.

>I would't use transverters, though.  It is much easier and cleaner to
>generate 1.2 GHz signals directly than to mix them up from 2M.
>(not to mention 10M)

I'm not sure that this is true. Since there are off the shelf
transverters which can do it, I don't think it is easier to build
up a PLL radio for 23 cm than it is to hook up a transverter. And
we've used hetrodyne technique for many years, are comfortable with
it, and have learned how to do it well. I'm not at all sure that
the PLL rig will be cleaner (in fact I'd almost be willing to bet
it would have higher phase noise).

>In Europe, the Interlink-TRX designs by DF9IC are most popular.  The
>simple Interlink-TRX 1 fits on a eurocard (100x160 mm) and uses a fixed
>offset of 59 MHz between RX and TX for a halfduplex link.  This means
>the transmitter and local oscillator of the receiver can be (and are)
>combined.
>The more complex, but easier to reproduce, Interlink-TRX 3 uses separate
>boards for receive and transmit, and a duplexer to allow full-duplex
>operation with 59 or 28 MHz split (these values fit in the European
>23cm bandplan).

Full duplex operation allows effective employment of AFC, and that
makes things much easier.

>Basically they are just NBFM transceivers, using the wellknown ceramic
>filters on 455 KHz.  This allows AFSK or FSK operation, up to about
>19k2 BPS.  (I think some links use 38k4 BPS with the Interlink-TRX 3)
>The transmit signal is generated using a PLL with fixed divisor after
>a crystal oscillator (the crystal is selected for the correct frequency).
>The crystal oscillator is FM modulated and the PLL is fast enough to
>track it, so the usual problem with G3RUH modems and PLLs does not occur.
>The crystal is "ovenized" using a PTC resistor.
>
>Of course a DSY modem will go faster, but on 23cm the total effort will
>be quite high because of the dual conversion that is required.

I don't think so. As Dale informed us, Down East now has an off the
shelf transverter which will do it. So no effort is involved (just
some scorching of the plastic in the wallet). I've also noted before
that there are inexpensive ways to cascade to 1.2 GHz. It would seem
your TRX radios are dual conversion too, first IF at 59 MHz you said.

>The S53MV 1.2 Mbit/s design looks nice, but there is no room in the
>23cm bandplan to allow the setup of a well-meshed network using this
>kind of bandwidth.  For some fast local link it could be used, of course.

There is room in our bandplan. We have someone here building several sets
for use as part of a thesis project. We're watching that with interest.
I'm pretty sure that the wide bandwidth will make frequency stability
issues much less of a factor than with the narrowband stuff. I'm not as
sure about how robust it will be in the face of the high RF environments
with which we have to deal. We'll see.

BTW, Dale is experimenting with FEC implemented in hardware on board
the new WA4DSY modem. That's not quite ready for release (and may never
be, it *is* experimental, but you can download the current image from
his website, www.wa4dsy.radio.org). He's already seen a 3 db improvement
against gaussian noise, and a much larger improvement against some forms
of impulse noise (impulses 40 db stronger than the received modem signals
don't increase observed error rates) in over the air tests.

We had power line arcing near one of our high speed repeater sites that
was just killing throughput, addition of FEC in the end point modems has
reduced retries to nearly nil, IE *no* mods were done to the bit repeater
site being slammed, just to the end user stations. Stations using this
ECC mode aren't compatible with stations using the ordinary 56 kb mode,
but Dale has included a way to manually switch the ECC modem back to ordinary
56 kb operation to deal with that for now.

I've been of the opinion that FEC should be done on the PC rather than
in the modem (Karn's approach), but Dale has some good reasons for putting
it in the modem instead. The only downside, other than the ECC overhead,
is a longer lockup time, Txd has to be moved up to 16 mS.

Gary
--
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Destructive Testing Systems |    we break it.     | with previous uucp address
es
534 Shannon Way             |    Guaranteed!      | Email to [e-mail]
Lawrenceville, GA 30244     |                     |


From [e-mail] Mon Nov 25 18:47:57 1996
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From: Jan Marius Evang <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: Low Cost 1.2Ghz packet?
Date: 24 Nov 1996 18:52:47 +0100
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Hi, Dale
  DH> Down East sells a model 1296-28 transverter. It has a 10 meter
  DH> IF. It puts out 3 watts at 1296 mhz and is $550. This will
  DH> interface to the WA4DSY 56k modem directly.

This sounds *very* interresting.
Have you got an estimate what the total cost would be for such an
installation? We have a USCC4 card, and would need a WA4DSY modem and
this transverter ($550). Would the modem interface to a common TNC?
What kind of antenna should be used? Can we make one ourself?

73 de LC1MAT Marius


  DH> Dale Heatherington, WA4DSY http://www.wa4dsy.radio.org/










From [e-mail] Mon Nov 25 18:47:58 1996
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From: Jan Marius Evang <[e-mail]>
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Subject: [Linux ax25] Mulitiuser "call"?
Date: 24 Nov 1996 18:54:52 +0100
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hi!
We are a radio club at the university, and we have a PC
running Linux and AX.25, with a BBS, but we also want to
use the same AX.25 port for calling out, with the members'
personal call signs, without taking the BBS of the air,
is this possible with the normal "call" program?
73 de LC1MAT Marius


From [e-mail] Mon Nov 25 18:47:59 1996
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From: [e-mail]
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Subject: Re: How is packet?
Date: 24 Nov 1996 18:10:09 GMT
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>>>Hi there!
I am new at this hobby and trying to set up packet gear. Now I got the
2M going in voice.  I don't find anything intersting or exciting on
the idea of connecting 1200 baud on packet, say compared to Internet.
Please someone tell me why I should have a packet when things like
internet or BBS is going on 28.8K baud.<<<


Because on packet you can trade ansi pix!

;-)

73--Alan


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From: [e-mail] (Dave)
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[e-mail] (tyler) wrote:

>This is really getting off topic, but I couldn't resist:
>What's the difference between a dead dog on the road and a dead lawer on the
>road?

>There are skid marks in front of the dog!
>Tyler

and to get further out of hand-

there are three differences between lawyers and lab rats:

1) lawyers reproduce faster than rats
2)lawyers will do things that rats refuse  to do
3)  unlike rats,  if you experiment on lawyers, the staff doesnt get
attached to them



From [e-mail] Mon Nov 25 18:48:02 1996
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Subject: Re: *** AEA DSP-232 only $ 379.00 ***
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In Article<[e-mail]>, <[e-mail]> writes:
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> From: [e-mail] (Bob)
> Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc,rec.radio.swap,rec.radio.amateur.
misc,rec.radio.amateur.space,rec.radio.scanner,rec.radio.amateur.policy
> Subject: Re: *** AEA DSP-232 only $ 379.00 ***
> Date: Sat, 23 Nov 1996 09:22:53 GMT
> Organization: TFSnet Online Services
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>
> I am amused!
>
> Well, OK, I'm really not amused...
>
> Given that AEA is in the process of selling off their residual
> production to go out of business, I am just amazed at this impressive
> good deal R&L Electronics is offering...  NOT!!
>
> It sure looks to me that they're all too willing to screw a few
> customers to solve their stock problems...
>
> Wouldn't it have been a little more fair of you to caveat your ad here
> with the note that they who buy AEA products now do so with little to
> no possibility of product support, since AEA is about to go belly up?
> Oh well, bidness is bidness!!!
>
> As always: caveat emptor.  I'll remember this ad next time I'm
> shopping for gear...
>
> Bob
>
> Roger Smallwood <[e-mail]> wrote:
>
> >New Special AEA DSP-232 all mode DSP tnc only $379.00
> >
> >for more info call [phone] or
> >email [e-mail]
> >
> >--
> >Thanks!!
> >Roger N8EKG
> >R&L Electronics
> >[e-mail]
>
Beware! There are several software problems
in the DSP-232. The software to fix them was
in beta and scheduled for shipment around
Thanksgiving. I know, I bought one about a
month ago and was looking forward to receiving
the fix. Damn! They'll be giving these things
away before the end of the year.



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> Subject: *** AEA DSP-232 Only $379.00 ***
> Date: Mon, 18 Nov 1996 21:52:33 -0500
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> AEA DSP-232 Only $379.00
>
> All mode dsp tnc.
>
> For more info call [phone] or email [e-mail]
>
> --
> Thanks!!
> Roger N8EKG
> R&L Electronics
> [e-mail]


Are you guys going to obtain and distribute the new proms
that'll make the tnc work properly with the AEA software?




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> Subject: Re: AEA Out Of Business!?
> Date: Sat, 23 Nov 96 10:37:44 PDT
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>
> In Article<[e-mail]>, <[e-mail]> writes:
> > Path:
> nwnews.wa.com!uw-coco!uw-beaver!news.u.washington.edu!news.uoregon.edu!news.
tex
> oma.com!www.nntp.primenet.com!nntp.primenet.com!dciteleport.com!newsfeed.int
ern
> > >
> > >Gee! Did anyone get the code that cured the problems in the
> > >DSP-232? I just bought one and was expecting the new eprom
> > >this month. Damn Damn Damn!!!!!
> > >
> > It would be nice if AEA would post the code to the net so we
> > could download it and burn our own firmware to fix these
> > problems!
> >
> >
> > --<Bob Bergman>[e-mail]
> >
>
> Hams are a funny lot.  It has been announced here several times that AEA is
> selling their product lines.  What do you guys think they are selling?  I am

> sure it is the source code to their TNCs as well as the PCB layouts and the
> sheet metal drawings.
>
> I have had my DSP-232 for about a year now.  AEA has been working on the
code
> for that amount of time plus their development time.  I am sure the value of


> the product is the engineering time that went into the writing the code.  Do


> you expect them to give it away?
>
> I got upgrade EPROMs for my DSP in the mail two days ago.  They are working
> for me.
>
> Bill
>
Bill,

I don't give a damn how much they have invested in fixing the problems.
I have already paid for a flawless product and I sure as hell don't like
the idea of paying for it twice. So what's wrong with them posting the
code so those of us who got burnt can get some relief?

Rod Hart



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In Article<[e-mail]>, <[e-mail]> write
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> From: [e-mail] (Gary Coffman)
> Subject: Re: AEA Out Of Business!?
> Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
> Reply-To: [e-mail] (Gary Coffman)
> Organization: Destructive Testing Systems
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>
> In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail]
 writes:
> >In Article<[e-mail]>, <[e-mail]> writes:
> >> >Gee! Did anyone get the code that cured the problems in the
> >> >DSP-232? I just bought one and was expecting the new eprom
> >> >this month. Damn Damn Damn!!!!!
> >> >
> >> It would be nice if AEA would post the code to the net so we
> >> could download it and burn our own firmware to fix these
> >> problems!
> >
> >Hams are a funny lot.  It has been announced here several times that AEA is

> >selling their product lines.  What do you guys think they are selling?  I a
m
> >sure it is the source code to their TNCs as well as the PCB layouts and the

> >sheet metal drawings.
>
> It has been announced that AEA is *attempting* to sell their product
> lines. If they manage to find buyers for their product lines, well
> and good, we can get support from the new owners of the product line.
> But (as seems somewhat likely), if they can't find a buyer for the
> product line, it would be a nice gesture for them to make the source
> available to their long suffering customers so we can attempt to
> fix the problems ourselves. (Heck, I'd even *pay* a reasonable amount
> for good commented source for some of their products.)
>
> I'd like to see all amateur manufacturers make it a policy to release
> source (under a non-commercial use copyright) for any product that they
> no longer support (for whatever reason). As more and more amateur products
> become dependent on microprocessor code, it is going to become harder to
> keep them going after the manufacturer either abandons the product or the
> manufacturer becomes defunct. I rather doubt that there are many trade
> secret algorithms coded into amateur products which would be of any
> commercial value after the product line is orphaned, so I don't see this
> as harmful to the manufacturers. I see it as a matter of good will to the
> amateur community.
>
> Gary
> --
> Gary Coffman KE4ZV          |    You make it,     | Due to provider problems


> Destructive Testing Systems |    we break it.     | with previous uucp
addresses
> 534 Shannon Way             |    Guaranteed!      | Email to [e-mail]
> Lawrenceville, GA 30244     |                     |

We truly are a strange lot. Who else in this world would be
happy about having the chance to pay twice for a product?




From [e-mail] Mon Nov 25 18:48:07 1996
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Subject: Re: How is packet?
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[e-mail] (paulyim) wrote:

 I think the packet bbs system is infinitely more effecient in buying
and swapping. Buy and sell messages can be tailored to be sent to your
geographic area, rather than rec. radio swap which is always, by
definition, worldwide. Also, contacting MIR is kind of fun.  k2gt




From [e-mail] Mon Nov 25 18:48:08 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Anthony S. Pelliccio)
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Subject: Re: ARRL lawyer to sue member
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In article <57a3vj$[e-mail]>, Dave <[e-mail]> wrote:

>1) lawyers reproduce faster than rats
>2)lawyers will do things that rats refuse  to do
>3)  unlike rats,  if you experiment on lawyers, the staff doesnt get
>attached to them
>
For some absolutely hysterical lawyer jokes surf on over to
http://cartalk.com and look for the picture of a shark with a tie on. Click
on it and be launched into a sampling of NOLO Press' favorite lawyer jokes.

Tony


From [e-mail] Mon Nov 25 18:48:09 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Rob Kling)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: FT736R hooked up to a TNC
Date: 24 Nov 1996 22:29:00 GMT
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Jim,
  On my MFJ TNC I have a command TXDELAY that is used sequence the PTT and the
 transmission of characters. There also
 is a command AXDELAY that allows for repeater time delays. I do not know if t
he pk88 has those commands, but if it does you should
adjust those(fiddle) until you get it right!

73's
Rob Kling -N8YBV


>Has anyone ever had any sucess in hooking up a FT736R to a pk88?  When I
>transmit the reciever does not open up fast enough for most of the nodes
>around my area.
>
>Any suggestions would be appreciated
>Jim VE3TEJ


From [e-mail] Mon Nov 25 18:48:10 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Rob Janssen)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: AEA Out Of Business!?
Date: Sun, 24 Nov 1996 23:22:47 GMT
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In <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Bob Bergman) writes:

>In article <[e-mail]>,
>[e-mail] wrote:
>> EMAIL - [e-mail]
>>
>>Gee! Did anyone get the code that cured the problems in the
>>DSP-232? I just bought one and was expecting the new eprom
>>this month. Damn Damn Damn!!!!!
>>
>It would be nice if AEA would post the code to the net so we
>could download it and burn our own firmware to fix these
>problems!

This does not look like AEA's typical attitude...
When I put a revised PK-232 firmware on my system for public access,
and a friend distributed EPROMS with this firmware for the cost of
the EPROMs and shipping, AEA freaked out and sent a threatening letter...

(the purpose of this action was to cure a very serious bug in the KISS
mode that caused a lot of problems when the PK-232 was used for TCP/IP,
but AEA insisted that the new firmware offered increased functionality
(namely the mailbox) and was not to be given away.  of course, our viewpoint
was that it made the box adhere to the specs in the advertisement (namely
that it supported KISS) and we asked for a version that fixed the bug but
did not include extra functionality.   AEA did not reply, so we just
continued to distribute it...)

Rob
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From [e-mail] Mon Nov 25 18:48:11 1996
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From: [e-mail]
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Subject: Re: AEA Out Of Business!?
Date: Sun, 24 Nov 96 19:12:20 PDT
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> In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail]

writes:
> >In Article<[e-mail]>, <[e-mail]> writes:
> >> >Gee! Did anyone get the code that cured the problems in the
> >> >DSP-232? I just bought one and was expecting the new eprom
> >> >this month. Damn Damn Damn!!!!!
> >> >
> >> It would be nice if AEA would post the code to the net so we
> >> could download it and burn our own firmware to fix these
> >> problems!
> >
> >Hams are a funny lot.  It has been announced here several times that AEA is


> >selling their product lines.  What do you guys think they are selling?  I
am
> >sure it is the source code to their TNCs as well as the PCB layouts and the


> >sheet metal drawings.
>
> It has been announced that AEA is *attempting* to sell their product
> lines. If they manage to find buyers for their product lines, well
> and good, we can get support from the new owners of the product line.
> But (as seems somewhat likely), if they can't find a buyer for the
> product line, it would be a nice gesture for them to make the source
> available to their long suffering customers so we can attempt to
> fix the problems ourselves. (Heck, I'd even *pay* a reasonable amount
> for good commented source for some of their products.)
>
> I'd like to see all amateur manufacturers make it a policy to release
> source (under a non-commercial use copyright) for any product that they
> no longer support (for whatever reason). As more and more amateur products
> become dependent on microprocessor code, it is going to become harder to
> keep them going after the manufacturer either abandons the product or the
> manufacturer becomes defunct. I rather doubt that there are many trade
> secret algorithms coded into amateur products which would be of any
> commercial value after the product line is orphaned, so I don't see this
> as harmful to the manufacturers. I see it as a matter of good will to the
> amateur community.
>
> Gary
> --


Hi Gary,

Well your idea has merit, I'll admit that.

I did get final release EPROMs from AEA.  They sent them by mail last week.
They are working fine.

Bill



From [e-mail] Mon Nov 25 18:48:12 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Eric Bear Albrecht)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: Encryption of voice over amateur frequencies is Not legal
Date: Sun, 24 Nov 1996 18:39:17 -0800
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Dan Dillon <[e-mail]> wrote:

> kisasi wrote:
> >
> > Has anyone had any experiences connecting PGP phone to radios via the
> > VOX connecters on radios , and mike and speakear jacks on a computer.
>
> ***************************
> ***************************
>
> While encryption is NOT illegal, encryption over amateur radio IS illegal,

...snip...
>   The rules do not apply to the legitimate use of secret telecommand
>codes used to protect the security of a space station [97.207(f)].
>Also, repeater trustees can use authentication codes to secure access
>to control functions of a hilltop repeater.  (Authentication codes are
>sent by control operators to the repeater control functions - the
>repeater checks, or authenticates, the code to ensure that the commands
>are coming from an authorized control operator.)  Universally accepted
>touchtone pad tones are not considered to be codes and ciphers; their
>use in traditional repeater and other applications is fine.
>
> *** Quoted from "The FCC Rule Book Guide to the FCC Regulations"
> *** 9th edition, ARRL

> The above very clearly spells out that it is illegal to use Codes or
> Cyphers over amateur radio with two very specific, narrow, and well
> defined exceptions.
>

Codes and ciphers may be used to facilitate communication but not to
obscure it.  PGP signatures, for instance, are legal by my reading,
since they provide only authentication for a plaintext message.

Any encryption scheme used to generate a signature, PGP included,
would provide the security needed for satellite operations, without
even having to provide a special rule.

;B



From [e-mail] Mon Nov 25 18:48:14 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Gary L. Johnson)
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Subject: Re: *** AEA DSP-232 only $ 379.00 ***
Date: 25 Nov 1996 02:48:11 GMT
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In article <[e-mail]>, rwhart@ix.n
etcom.com says...
>
>
>In Article<[e-mail]>, <[e-mail]> writes:
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>> From: [e-mail] (Bob)
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.amateur.space,rec.
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>> Subject: Re: *** AEA DSP-232 only $ 379.00 ***
>> Date: Sat, 23 Nov 1996 09:22:53 GMT
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>>
>> I am amused!
>>
>> Well, OK, I'm really not amused...
>>
>> Given that AEA is in the process of selling off their residual
>> production to go out of business, I am just amazed at this impressive
>> good deal R&L Electronics is offering...  NOT!!
>>
>> It sure looks to me that they're all too willing to screw a few
>> customers to solve their stock problems...
>>
>> Wouldn't it have been a little more fair of you to caveat your ad here
>> with the note that they who buy AEA products now do so with little to
>> no possibility of product support, since AEA is about to go belly up?
>> Oh well, bidness is bidness!!!
>>
>> As always: caveat emptor.  I'll remember this ad next time I'm
>> shopping for gear...
>>
>> Bob
>>
>> Roger Smallwood <[e-mail]> wrote:
>>
>> >New Special AEA DSP-232 all mode DSP tnc only $379.00
>> >
>> >for more info call [phone] or
>> >email [e-mail]
>> >
>> >--
>> >Thanks!!
>> >Roger N8EKG
>> >R&L Electronics
>> >[e-mail]
>>
>Beware! There are several software problems
>in the DSP-232. The software to fix them was
>in beta and scheduled for shipment around
>Thanksgiving. I know, I bought one about a
>month ago and was looking forward to receiving
>the fix. Damn! They'll be giving these things
>away before the end of the year.
>


Well I received the update EEPROMS on November 23rd.  Hope
that all other received these as well.  Have not tried
the updates yets.  But the beta versions had solved
many of the problems.

73 Gary


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From [e-mail] Mon Nov 25 18:48:16 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Timothy J Salo)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: IP Address
Date: 24 Nov 1996 22:15:12 -0600
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In article <572fq9$[e-mail]>,
Jens David -DG1KJD- <[e-mail]> wrote:
>       [...]
>44.0.0.1 alias ampr.org alias mirrorshades.ucsd.edu uses a technique
>called "IP encap", "IP tunneling" or "IPIP" to carry the IP frames further
>on to the destination. It encapsulates the source IP frame into athother
>IP frame directed to a router who knows about the original target at the
>original's target network.  The routing table at mirrorshades tells the
>system which destination address the outher IP header gets.
>       [...]

Interesting.  I don't claim to know much about the amateur radio side
of things.

>Anyway, take a look at this:
>
>$ traceroute ka9q.ampr.org
>traceroute to ka9q.ampr.org (129.46.90.35), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets
> 1  ostcisco.hrz.uni-bielefeld.de (129.70.35.1)  1.424 ms  1.199 ms  1.19 ms
> 2  gigacisco.hrz.uni-bielefeld.de (129.70.2.9)  1.976 ms  1.019 ms  1.003 ms
> 3  Uni-Bielefeld1.WiN-IP.DFN.DE (188.1.4.141)  2.784 ms  1.838 ms  1.774 ms
> 4  ZR-Hannover1.WiN-IP.DFN.DE (188.1.4.137)  5.732 ms  3.322 ms  3.34 ms
> 5  ipgate1.WiN-IP.DFN.DE (188.1.144.62)  10.419 ms  9.758 ms  9.636 ms
> 6  border3-serial3-1.WestOrange.mci.net (204.70.67.45)  164.115 ms  163.742
ms
> 180.208 ms
> 7  core1-fddi-0.WestOrange.mci.net (204.70.64.17)  178.678 ms *  176.694 ms
> 8  sprint-nap.WestOrange.mci.net (204.70.1.210)  258.174 ms *  496.246 ms
> 9  * sprint-nap.WestOrange.mci.net (204.70.1.210)  330.3 ms  204.034 ms
>10  cerfnet.sprintnap.net (192.157.69.5)  172.67 ms  161.204 ms *
>11  san-atm-ds3.cerf.net (134.24.17.100)  236.377 ms *  222.959 ms

>12  qualcomm-sdsc-ds3.cerf.net (134.24.47.200)  231.275 ms *  230.648 ms
>13  * krypton-e2.qualcomm.com (192.35.156.2)  234.045 ms  226.821 ms
>14  * ascend-max.qualcomm.com (129.46.54.31)  242.766 ms *
>15  * * karnp50.qualcomm.com (129.46.90.33)  258.305 ms
>16  unix.ka9q.ampr.org (129.46.90.35)  266.721 ms  251.253 ms  331.818 ms
>
>Well, what did you expect? :-)
>Obviously not every IP frame to hosts within the amprnet go via mirrorshades,
>obviously some (or should I say "some subnets"?) are announced individually.

Note that you happened to pick an ampr.org host which is _not_ on the
44.0.0.0 net.  Rather, this would appear to be one of Phil Karn's
machines at Qualcomm, where I believe he currently works.  I also
believe that Qualcomm is in San Diego and is geographically and
topologically close to UCSD where the 44 net is announced.

More [perhaps] interesting, although not necessarily relevant info from:

-tjs


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From: Jeff Wait <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Packet Modem
Date: Sun, 24 Nov 1996 22:42:27 -0600
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Hello, Looking for a packet modem kit that I can build.  What I need is
the schematic. I can build it from that.  I do have the schematic for a
basic packet modem from '73' Amateur Radio Today, February issue.  But
one problem can't find the TCM3105JL chip,  TI don't make it any more
and also other people been looking for it and can't find it themselfs.
Any suggestion PLEASE  E-Mail me at: [e-mail] .  Thanks


From [e-mail] Mon Nov 25 18:48:17 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Michael C. McHugh (TA2ZG/W2AV))
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Subject: Looking for BPQ Conference Application
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Hello, all -

Does anyone know of a "conference" application for BPQCODE?  I've
looked at the usual sites (ucsd.edu:/hamradio/packet and tapr.org:
/tapr/software_lib) but found nothing.  Not interested in Packet-
Cluster or similar - looking for freeware ;).

We may have a need here for something like this as we work to upgrade
the local packet network.  I'll write something if I have to but don't
want to re-invent any wheels.  If I do have to write it, I'll upload
it as freeware.

Thanks for any pointers, information, etc. - 73

de Mike (TA2ZG/W2AV)     Remote Sysop TA2EM BBS - first PRBBS in Turkiye
Amateur Packet Radio:    TA2ZG@TA2EM.#IST.TUR.EU
Internet (email only):   Michael C. McHugh <[e-mail]>



From [e-mail] Mon Nov 25 18:48:18 1996
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From: "Giovanni Mazzola" <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: AEA Out Of Business!?
Date: 25 Nov 1996 07:36:59 GMT
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> It would be nice if AEA would post the code to the net so we
> could download it and burn our own firmware to fix these
> problems!

I was wating for AEA to fix the DSP-2232 problems for so long
that I lost any hope...

Giovanni, IT9XXS



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From [e-mail] Mon Nov 25 18:48:21 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Gary Coffman)
Subject: Re: How is packet?
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In article <57aad8$[e-mail]> [e-mail] writes:
>[e-mail] (paulyim) wrote:
>
> I think the packet bbs system is infinitely more effecient in buying
>and swapping. Buy and sell messages can be tailored to be sent to your
>geographic area, rather than rec. radio swap which is always, by
>definition, worldwide. Also, contacting MIR is kind of fun.  k2gt

Well, no, the newsgroups do *not* have worldwide distribution by
definition, though they often have it by poster carelessness.
That line up there in the header marked "Distribution:" can be
set to limit distribution to a city, state, nation, or the default
value of "world". Only if you leave it at default do you get
worldwide distribution.

If your news software doesn't show you the header by default (it
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From [e-mail] Mon Nov 25 18:48:22 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Gary Coffman)
Subject: Re: AEA Out Of Business!?
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In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail]
tcom.com writes:
>I don't give a damn how much they have invested in fixing the problems.
>I have already paid for a flawless product and I sure as hell don't like
>the idea of paying for it twice. So what's wrong with them posting the
>code so those of us who got burnt can get some relief?
>
>Rod Hart

You thought you bought a *flawless* product? What world do you live
in? Certainly not the real one.

Gary

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From [e-mail] Mon Nov 25 18:48:23 1996
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From: "Roger E. Koss" <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: How is packet?
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Paul: There's lots of things you can do with 1200 Baud Packet. If you are
into or want to get into Traffic Handling, Packet is a great vehicle for
that. If you are interested in Space and Satellites,  you can connect to
the Russian Space Station MIR and the U.S. Space Shuttle. You can also
download telemtry from the DOVE (DO-17) satellite and others. You can get
involved with the new Automatic Position Reporting System (APRS) which
can be used for things like Spacecraft Tracking or Public Event Tracking,
Bunny Hunting, even Disaster Comms and Jammer Hunting. Packet, like CW,
Phone, RTTY etc is just a mode that you can use to communicate...it's up
to your imagination what you can do with it...



From [e-mail] Mon Nov 25 18:48:25 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Rob Janssen)
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Subject: Re: AEA Out Of Business!?
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In <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Gary Coffman)
 writes:

>You could also have spread the story of their defective product and their
>unresponsive behavior to the four winds without fear of commercial libel
>if you had proof of your claim. That too might have driven them into
>bankruptcy (bad publicity from disgruntled customers can do that sometimes).

We did that, but it didn't work.  Or maybe it did.

The situation was worsened by the behaviour of their local representative,
but I won't bring up that story all over again.

Fortunately, I have never owned an AEA product myself.  I only remember
the frustration resulting from operation of their TNC's on the local
channel, and trying to modify them (and the software config files) for
use in BBS systems etc.

Rob
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From [e-mail] Mon Nov 25 18:48:26 1996
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From: Bjarke Korsgaard <[e-mail]>
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Subject: ADSP 2181...
Date: Mon, 25 Nov 1996 22:21:28 -0800
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Hello DSP freaks

I have just purchased the EZ-KIT lite from Analog Device (ADSP2181 and
AD1847). The EZ-KIT contains the source code for four FIR filters
(FIRDEMO.DSP), but I do not know how to calculate the equiation weights
or what ever it is in the four files fir1.dat, fir2.dat, fir3.dat and
fir 4.dat (containing a lot of hex-digits). Do enybody know how to do?

Do you further more know how to build notch filters - the equiation...

Any source code for solving the above will be pleased...


Yours faithfully

Bjarke Korsgaard


From [e-mail] Tue Dec 03 19:24:15 1996
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In article <5738de$17ec$[e-mail]>, [e-mail]@smtp-news2.i
bm.net writes:
>In <[e-mail]>, Joe Giraudo <[e-mail]> writes:
>>R. A. Green wrote:
>>>
>>> On 16 Nov 1996 07:03:33 GMT, [e-mail] (Rob Turner)
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> >looking to get a Hand held Ham Radio.
>>> >If there is anyone selling or giveing one away please email me.
>>> >adam turner
>>> >[e-mail]
>>> >
>>> Hell, if there's anyone giving one away, email me too!
>>>
>>> --ronPosted in Rec.Amateur.Boatanchors?
>>
>>Tube type hand held?
>
>  Sure, those 90 volt B batterys are getting a little long in the tooth :-(=)

>
>                                                                Jim



From [e-mail] Tue Dec 03 19:24:15 1996
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From: James Dunn <[e-mail]>
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Subject: 32 X 1 Meg transfer to PC
Date: Sun, 24 Nov 1996 20:52:31 -0800
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I'm looking to capture 1Meg of digital information in 1 sec, then
transfer it to a computer port for analysis and manipulation using C++
programs.
  Is there anyone that knows how to use C++ to acess PC port
information?

                     [e-mail]



From [e-mail] Tue Dec 03 19:24:16 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Jamie)
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Subject: APRS 7.7e Now Available!
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WB4APR's APRS 7.7e is now available at The Western NC APRS & Ham Radio
Home Page  http://www.bluenet.net/ke4htm



From [e-mail] Tue Dec 03 19:24:17 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Jamie)
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Subject: Re: Encryption of voice over amateur frequencies is Not legal
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On Tue, 19 Nov 1996 20:43:27 -0800, Dan Dillon
<[e-mail]> wrote:

>kisasi wrote:
>>
>> Has anyone had any experiences connecting PGP phone to radios via the
>> VOX connecters on radios , and mike and speakear jacks on a computer.
>
>***************************
>***************************
>
>While encryption is NOT illegal, encryption over amateur radio IS illegal,
>and it's use would lead to the detriment of amateur radio.  It would give
>the money grabbing politians and the money paying frequency grabbing
>interests of big business the opportunity for congress and the FCC to
>take away yet another chunk of VALUABLE AMATEUR RADIO SPECTRUM.
>
>
While it is illegal to encrypt anything over the Ham band. It's not
illegal to digitize your voice. example use Internet Phone over the
net. Now the downside. This can at present be only done for experments
and in  the expermental portion of the bands. Seems this is the
actually way radio should go but we must provide an easy way for the
FCC to listen in to each conversation before we can do it full time.

73,
Jamie - KE4HTM
http://www.bluenet.net/ke4htm


From [e-mail] Tue Dec 03 19:24:19 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Gary Coffman)
Subject: Re: AEA Out Of Business!?
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In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail]
tcom.com writes:
>In Article<[e-mail]>, <[e-mail]> writ
es:
>> >Hams are a funny lot.  It has been announced here several times that AEA i
s
>> >selling their product lines. What do you guys think they are selling?  I a
m
>> >sure it is the source code to their TNCs as well as the PCB layouts and th
e
>> >sheet metal drawings.
>>
>> It has been announced that AEA is *attempting* to sell their product
>> lines. If they manage to find buyers for their product lines, well
>> and good, we can get support from the new owners of the product line.
>> But (as seems somewhat likely), if they can't find a buyer for the
>> product line, it would be a nice gesture for them to make the source
>> available to their long suffering customers so we can attempt to
>> fix the problems ourselves. (Heck, I'd even *pay* a reasonable amount
>> for good commented source for some of their products.)
>
>We truly are a strange lot. Who else in this world would be
>happy about having the chance to pay twice for a product?

I'm not suggesting paying twice for a product. I didn't pay for the
source code when I bought the product. All I paid for was just one
copy of a binary image of the code. So I don't own a copy of what I'd
like to buy. I could reverse engineer the binary, but that's a PITA
I'd be willing to pay a nominal sum to avoid having to do.

Gary
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From [e-mail] Tue Dec 03 19:24:20 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Vinicio Coletti)
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Subject: 24 GHz and up
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I need informations on components available for transmission on higher
microwaves bands, such as 24 GHz and 48 GHz.
What would you use to do EME on such bands ?
I think the interesting point is that with a 4 feet dish at 24 GHz you
get a 0.5 degrees beam (and at 48 you need only 2 feet!).
Am I right with these calculations ?

I bet main problem here will be to have enough power for a moon
reflection at those very high frequencies.

Any suggestions ?

73 de IK0WRB




Vinicio Coletti
[e-mail]
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From [e-mail] Tue Dec 03 19:24:21 1996
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From: Alexander Parkinson <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: How is packet?
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Paul

My answer is how and why:

I operate a Macintosh TCP/IP station. Packet actually
sparked my interest in Amateur radio. In the process of
working with packet I developed a much deeper understanding how
the Internet works, an understanding that goes beyond the keyboard.
The majority of people have no idea of what is really going on
out in "cyberspace". The interaction begins and ends at the keyboard
and the monitor with no thought to the communications network behind
the scenes. I think it is nothing short of a man-made technological
wonder. . .





Alexander


On Sun, 24 Nov 1996, paulyim wrote:

>
> Hi there!
> I am new at this hobby and trying to set up packet gear. Now I got the
> 2M going in voice.  I don't find anything intersting or exciting on
> the idea of connecting 1200 baud on packet, say compared to Internet.
> Please someone tell me why I should have a packet when things like
> internet or BBS is going on 28.8K baud.
>
> Paul Yim,
> [e-mail]
>
>
>


From [e-mail] Tue Dec 03 19:24:24 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Rob Janssen)
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Subject: Re: DRSI Packet Board Modem Chip (TCM1305JL)
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In <56abfr$[e-mail]> MakeMyDay <MakeMyDay@worldne
t.att.net> writes:

>Looking for a source for the TCM1305JL (or equivalent) modem chip.

>It is a 16-pin DIP.

>The folks at DRSI quit selling the board/parts 2 years ago after it was
>cloned in Europe, they say.

I have never seen a DRSI PCPA clone in Europe.
I would consider it a DRSI PCPA clone only if it has two channels, an 8530
and an 8536.

When DRSI calls every card that has one or more 8530s on it 'a DRSI clone',
well then there have been some clones.  But they usually had quite
different design objectives, and were not at all patterned after the
DRSI PCPA product.  Cards like that existed before DRSI came out with
the PCPA.

Rob
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From [e-mail] Tue Dec 03 19:24:25 1996
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From: Albert School KB8WES <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Which radios to use for 9600 baud packet?
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Two Questions:

1. Can any commonly available 2m HT's be used for 9600 packet?

2. If not...What are some economical radios that are available?

Thanks in advance,

Albert
[e-mail]


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Gary L. Johnson wrote:
>
> In article <[e-mail]>, rwhart@ix
.netcom.com says...

> >Beware! There are several software problems
> >in the DSP-232. The software to fix them was
> >in beta and scheduled for shipment around
> >Thanksgiving. I know, I bought one about a
> >month ago and was looking forward to receiving
> >the fix. Damn! They'll be giving these things
> >away before the end of the year.
> >
>
> Well I received the update EEPROMS on November 23rd.  Hope
> that all other received these as well.  Have not tried
> the updates yets.  But the beta versions had solved
> many of the problems.

And I too just now received an update in the mail. EPROM, not EEPROM.
Parts are labeled "AEA V1.0 L31". Level 31? Instructions dated
10/24/96 say "This upgrade enhances your DSP-232;s ability to function
in Amtor, Pactor, 9600 bps Packet and 9600 pbs KISS mode."

Just thinking, if AEA can't find a buyer for their intellectual
property, it sure would be nice if they'd post the source code to
the DSP-232. One of the reasons I purchased a DSP-232 was that it
has a very powerfull CPU (MC68340) that can be programmed with free
tools (gcc and gdb), and AEA's advertising copy showed a picture of
their PCB including the jack for connecting Motorola's Background
Debugging Mode. Alas, haven't had time to play with these toys.

--
David Kelly N4HHE, [e-mail]
=====================================================================
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In Article<[e-mail]>, <[e-mail]> writ
es:
> Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
> Path: ix.netcom.com!ix.netcom.com!ix.netcom.com!enews.sgi.com!news.sgi.com!s
wrinde!cssun.mathcs.emory.edu!news.radio.org!wa4mei!ke4zv!gary
> From: [e-mail] (Gary Coffman)
> Subject: Re: AEA Out Of Business!?
> Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
> Reply-To: [e-mail] (Gary Coffman)
> Organization: Destructive Testing Systems
> References: <[e-mail]> <[e-mail]3
mez.netcom.com> <[e-mail]> <NEWTNews.848774561.25479.bill@bi
ll.halcyon.com> <[e-mail]>
> Date: Mon, 25 Nov 1996 14:36:45 GMT
> Lines: 18
>
> In article <[e-mail]> rwhart@ix.
netcom.com writes:
> >I don't give a damn how much they have invested in fixing the problems.
> >I have already paid for a flawless product and I sure as hell don't like
> >the idea of paying for it twice. So what's wrong with them posting the
> >code so those of us who got burnt can get some relief?
> >
> >Rod Hart
>
> You thought you bought a *flawless* product? What world do you live
> in? Certainly not the real one.
>
> Gary
>
> --
> Gary Coffman KE4ZV          |    You make it,     | Due to provider problems


> Destructive Testing Systems |    we break it.     | with previous uucp
addresses
> 534 Shannon Way             |    Guaranteed!      | Email to [e-mail]
> Lawrenceville, GA 30244     |                     |


Gary,

I never buy anything unless I think it is flawless and meets
my requirements. Hopefully we have not given up on the quest
for a quality product or a dollar of value for a dollar spent.


Rod



From [e-mail] Tue Dec 03 19:24:28 1996
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From: "Gary V. Smith" <[e-mail]>
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Subject: AEA Equipment
Date: Mon, 25 Nov 1996 17:16:50 -0800
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Hello All,

I recently sent a PK-232 and a PK-232MBX to AEA for repair.  They came
back with a sticker saying, "out of business."  We've all since heard the
scoop on the situation.  However, this doesn't get my TNC's any closer to
repair.  Is there anyone out there willing to take on the repair of these
units?  Mr. Moore, at AEA, told me that they are looking for someone to
sub-out the service and repair function and to call back in two weeks.
That was a week ago.  I'd like to get this equipment in the repair cycle
somewhere asap.

Ttul, tnx es 73 de
Gary - KD6RXT
South Bend, IN
-k-


From [e-mail] Tue Dec 03 19:24:28 1996
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From: Bigdad <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: Packet Modem
Date: 26 Nov 1996 01:56:40 GMT
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That chip is available from i believe JDR Microdevices not sure
of the address but im sure they have a web page. Also FAR
circuits  has several circuit boards available for building the
TCM3105 based modems and they have the chips available with these
boards for $10...check out their home page at
WWW.CL.AIS.NET/FARCIR. Hope that helps you out some..in fact if
that issue of 73 is the Feb 96 article they have the board AND
the chip for $14

Art WB9HNJ



From [e-mail] Tue Dec 03 19:24:29 1996
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From: "Mark Bryant" <[e-mail]>
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Have you ever gotten a nasty letter from an Irishman or black? And I and B
don't pretend that they know everything.

M


> Why is it that when you tell a 'joke' about an Irishman it is called
> tasteless; when you tell a joke about a black it is called racist, and
> when you tell a joke about a lawyer it is called funny?
>
> hmmmm
>
> cdn
>
>
>


From [e-mail] Tue Dec 03 19:24:30 1996
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From: Bigdad <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Looking for Software
Date: 26 Nov 1996 03:39:37 GMT
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Greetings...im looking for a software package mentioned in a
construction article for a packet modem. The company that wrote
it is called J*com and it is called SofTNC. Can anyone help me
locate this or send me a copy? Thanks in advance and 73's

                      Art WB9HNJ



From [e-mail] Tue Dec 03 19:24:31 1996
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From: rderr <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: looking to get a Hand held Ham Radio.
Date: Mon, 25 Nov 1996 20:39:21 -0800
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[e-mail] wrote:
>
> In article <5738de$17ec$[e-mail]>, [e-mail]@smtp-news2
.ibm.net writes:
> >In <[e-mail]>, Joe Giraudo <[e-mail]> writes:
> >>R. A. Green wrote:
> >>>
> >>> On 16 Nov 1996 07:03:33 GMT, [e-mail] (Rob Turner)
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> >looking to get a Hand held Ham Radio.
> >>> >If there is anyone selling or giveing one away please email me.
> >>> >adam turner
> >>> >[e-mail]
> >>> >
> >>> Hell, if there's anyone giving one away, email me too!
> >>>
> >>> --ronPosted in Rec.Amateur.Boatanchors?
> >>
> >>Tube type hand held?
> >
> >  Sure, those 90 volt B batterys are getting a little long in the tooth :-(
=)
> >
> >                                                                JimI imagin
e that the A battery will also weigh a few pounds, perhaps the
whole thing could be mounted on a kid's toy wagon as a mobile unit.


From [e-mail] Tue Dec 03 19:24:32 1996
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From: golux <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Software for RTTY-SOUNDBLASTER ??
Date: Tue, 26 Nov 1996 06:23:05 +0100
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Hello friends:

I am looking for software for RTTY with SoundBlaster card

If you know someone please send me e-mail.


Thank you.




E-mail: [e-mail]


From [e-mail] Tue Dec 03 19:24:35 1996
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From: [e-mail]
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Subject: Re: Which radios to use for 9600 baud packet?
Date: Mon, 25 Nov 96 22:31:34 PDT
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In Article<57da1u$[e-mail]>, <[e-mail]
io-state.edu> writes:
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magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu!!aschool
> From: Albert School KB8WES <[e-mail]>
> Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
> Subject: Which radios to use for 9600 baud packet?
> Date: 25 Nov 1996 23:27:58 GMT
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> Keywords: packet, radio
> Originator: aschool@
>
> Two Questions:
>
> 1. Can any commonly available 2m HT's be used for 9600 packet?
>
> 2. If not...What are some economical radios that are available?
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> Albert
> [e-mail]

Can't really answer #1 because I have never seen mods for 9600 for a ht.

But for #2, if you want to get onto 9600 packet on 440 mhz, check out the
Tekk data radios. They run at about 2w-2.5w and about the size of credit
card. Normally the run at about $150 for xtals and shipping and can only
be special ordered thru a Tekk distributer called Metro North Communications
in Kansas City, Mo....number is 816-452-1900

John
KD6CLO




From [e-mail] Tue Dec 03 19:24:36 1996
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From: Mike <[e-mail]>
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Subject: FS: Canon Notejet Computer, Perfect for Packet
Date: Mon, 25 Nov 1996 21:58:44 -0800
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Canon Notejet 486 50Mhz notebook, upgradeable to 75Mhz, Color, 12mb ram
540Hd, 3.5" floppy, 14.4 modem. Win 3.11. Has built in inkjet printer,
under keyboard. Prints on regular paper. Self contained, only slightly
taller than a standard notbook. Perfect for a portable packet station.
$700.00.

Selling for a non ham friend. His email address [e-mail].

Email him or me and I will forward.

73 DE N6HTY, MikeN


From [e-mail] Tue Dec 03 19:24:37 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Jim Kehler)
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Subject: Re: *** AEA DSP-232 only $ 379.00 ***
Date: Tue, 26 Nov 1996 06:40:42 GMT
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Bob wrote:

>>> Given that AEA is in the process of selling off their residual
>>> production to go out of business, I am just amazed at this impressive
>>> good deal R&L Electronics is offering...  NOT!!
>>>
>>> It sure looks to me that they're all too willing to screw a few
>>> customers to solve their stock problems...
>>>
>>> Wouldn't it have been a little more fair of you to caveat your ad here
>>> with the note that they who buy AEA products now do so with little to
>>> no possibility of product support, since AEA is about to go belly up?
>>> Oh well, bidness is bidness!!!
>>>

AEA didn't have any product support when they WERE in business, so
what's the big deal ?  The typical ham doesn't look for support anyway,
all they care about is saving ten bucks.

>>> As always: caveat emptor.  I'll remember this ad next time I'm
>>> shopping for gear...
>>>
>>> Bob
>>>

If you think R & L did something wrong by putting something on sale to
get rid of it, you are probably pissed off at the produce guy in your local
grocery store most of the time too.   R & L always had good prices, in my book
.
But you go right ahead and get even with them by paying more for something
somewhere else.  That will really piss 'em off........

73,  Jim KH2D







From [e-mail] Tue Dec 03 19:24:38 1996
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From: Thomas Sailer <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: packet with Sound Blaster?
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To: William B James <[e-mail]>

> wondered is anyone knows of a program that will
> decode 300 baud hf and 1200 baud vhf packet
1200 baud AFSK: take a look at http://home.pages.de/~flexnet
> with a 16 bit sound card?
8bit is enough :-)

73s de Tom
--
Thomas (Tom) Sailer                    EMail: [e-mail]
Weinbergstrasse 76                     Ham Radio: hb9jnx @ hb9w.che.eu
CH-8408 Winterthur                     Phone: ++41 52 222 32 81


From [e-mail] Tue Dec 03 19:24:39 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Anton Laukhin)
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Subject: Re: [Linux ax25] Mulitiuser "call"?
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Jan Marius Evang ([e-mail]) wrote:
: hi!
: We are a radio club at the university, and we have a PC
: running Linux and AX.25, with a BBS, but we also want to
: use the same AX.25 port for calling out, with the members'
: personal call signs, without taking the BBS of the air,
: is this possible with the normal "call" program?
> 73 de LC1MAT Marius
====================================================================
    Hello Marius.  As I right understand You asked us what kind of programme
you can use for a normal call?  Is it correct?   73 & CUL   De Anton, RV3DHC



From [e-mail] Tue Dec 03 19:24:40 1996
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From: Gary Tait <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Baycom + XT as TNC ?
Date: Tue, 26 Nov 1996 11:04:03 -0500
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Does anybody have plans/software to make a Baycom Modem ,and an XT into
a TNC-2 clone TNC.

I will be using it to run APRS,TCP/IP, and TPK

Gary Tait , VE3VBF
- Please do not quote US prices, they are no good to me ,here in Canada -



From [e-mail] Tue Dec 03 19:24:43 1996
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From: Jeff Griffin <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: *** AEA DSP-232 only $ 379.00 ***
Date: 26 Nov 1996 16:04:16 GMT
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I had a DSP-232 for about a week. One of the main problems was
a birdie at 145.085-145.105. This is right in the middle of the
local packet bbs area. With a cable connected to the 232 my ht
picked up this birdie from 35 feet away (s9). The case by
itself tx's  up th 5 feet away. I checked the unit for proper
grounding, and found no problem areas. I tryed to use the unit
for 9600 sat work and was only able to get a weak signal from
KO-23. I took my 232 back to HRO for an exchange, thinking that
I must have gotten a defective unit, but the one the shelf did
the same thing. On the way to HRO I talked to two people both
returned their DSP-232's for a refund. Knowing the state of
AEA, (I called late last week for tech help. The recorded
message said the company was being 'bought' and any tech
problems or servive warrenty work needed, call ARRL in about a
month). I was very lucky to get my money back. I now plan on
buying a TAPR DSP93 kit.

73 Jeff



From [e-mail] Tue Dec 03 19:24:44 1996
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From: Gary Tait <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: TNC plans ?
Date: Tue, 26 Nov 1996 11:05:29 -0500
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Where can I find full TNC-2 plans/board patterns/ ROM images,
based on a Z80 CPU.

Gary Tait , VE3VBF
- Please do not quote US prices, they are no good to me ,here in Canada -



From [e-mail] Tue Dec 03 19:24:45 1996
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Does anyone know how I can reach Gordon LaPoint or whoever is the
current Eastern MA ip address coordinator to get an address on the W1ON
packet node?

Thanks,

Jerry,  N1TIN


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From: [e-mail]
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Subject: Re: AEA Out Of Business!?
Date: 26 Nov 1996 16:22:03 GMT
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In <[e-mail]>, [e-mail]
m writes:
>I don't give a damn how much they have invested in fixing the problems.

well, a maker has to be concerned...bottom line, y'know...

>I have already paid for a flawless product and I sure as hell don't like

a "flawless" product would have had at least a couple more zeroes between
the first significant digit and the decimal point.

>the idea of paying for it twice. So what's wrong with them posting the
>code so those of us who got burnt can get some relief?
>
>Rod Hart

plus given revisions to software, what you paid for was a copy of the current
item at the time you bought it. that it can be revised w/o having to completel
y
replace the box was a design feature -- it could have been made never
upgradable...(service bulletin 1 - upgrading. procedure: remove guts. install
new
guts...)

Bill Newkirk WB9IVR                  The Space Coast Amateur Technical Group
Melbourne, FL                       duty now for the future of amateur radio
Lombardi's 1st Law of Business:
   Companies succeed in spite of their best effort.  If they succeed at all.



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In <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (CDN) writes:
>when you tell a joke about a lawyer it is called funny?
>hmmmm
>cdn

because a number of high-profile members of the profession diligently slave
to become the ambulance-chaser stereotype that is the root of the gags.

all you gotta do is listen to the radio and tv ads.

one radio station personality locally commented once that for the money the
law firm was paying for the spot, and for the production cost of the spot, the

cost of a professional voice talent would have been peanuts and would
enhance their appearance and remove some of the "used car salesman" image
the founder projects...

Bill Newkirk WB9IVR                  The Space Coast Amateur Technical Group
Melbourne, FL                       duty now for the future of amateur radio
Lombardi's 1st Law of Business:
   Companies succeed in spite of their best effort.  If they succeed at all.



From [e-mail] Tue Dec 03 19:24:50 1996
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From: Robert Barron <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: TCP/IP and Win95
Date: Tue, 26 Nov 1996 10:54:05 -0600
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I know I've seen messages like this before but then I was not ready to
set up TCP/IP at my home station again.  So.....

Are there any Win95 drivers for using a standard TNC on a serial port
with the native Win95 TCP/IP stack?  If not, what are the alternatives?
I'd rather not have to resort to setting up a LAN in my home to a
Linux box just to get on to TCP/IP.

Does Trumpet Winsock work?  Please let me know what you've got working.

Thanks.

73,

Robert KA5WSS
[e-mail]


From [e-mail] Tue Dec 03 19:24:50 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Edward Lewis)
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Subject: Re: MFJ 1278B Fax
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xx@xx.x (K. S.) wrote:

>[e-mail] (Edward Lewis) wrote:
>
>>I am using a MFJ 1278 B Data controller to receive weather fax. I am
>>using the Multicom software and the manual doesn't tell how to center
>>the pictures. I usually have 2\3 on one side and 1\3 on the other.
>>could someone who is using this software help me.
>
>Hi, on my side the same problem !
>
>vy 73 , Karl - AUSTRIA
>
I have discovered that if I save my fax and than view it I can shift
the picture and fix the slant, but I would like to view a complete
picture on the screen as I receive it. Using Superfax with my KPC3 I
can shift the picture as I receive it.


From [e-mail] Tue Dec 03 19:24:52 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Gary Coffman)
Subject: Re: Low cost 1.2GHz packet?
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In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (James D. Cronin) writes:
>
>What you need to do is figure out some way to use an ATV transceiver on
>900 MHz or higher.  Color video signals have a bandwidth of a few MHz.
>I think a Houston ATV group did a 1.2 gig FM ATV transceiver.  There are
>also wireless VCR rabbits on 900 and another similar device that works
>on 2.4 gig.
>
>Any ideas for a modem with output that looks like baseband video?

Some years ago, before the advent to DAT, there were boards which
allowed you to backup data onto a VCR. The data was encoded as
white and black pixels in the active video area of a regular NTSC
signal. There was enough ECC included to allow operation with
VHS VCRs, so it would probably be robust enough for over the
air transmission as well. Of course these systems are now obsolete
and it might be difficult to find them. You could build something
similar, however.

That would give you 480 kilobytes per second. If you were brave,
you could use 8-bit greyscale for the pixels instead of just
black and white, and that would give you 3.84 megabytes/sec.
Video frames are a natural for a block code ECC like Reed-Solomon,
interlace is automatically included for protection against burst
errors, and the NTSC sync offers very positive data sync.

It isn't the most efficient way to send data via radio, but it
is a workable method.

Gary
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From [e-mail] Tue Dec 03 19:24:53 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Benedict P. Barszcz)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: WA4DSY 56k $349
Date: Tue, 26 Nov 96 17:20:55 GMT
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In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Gar
y Coffman) wrote:
>In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] writes:
>>How does paccomm sells the 56k modem thanks.
>
>Cash, VISA, Mastercard, or a check on a US bank.
And this is the price.

Yes, the PI2 card works fine with the modem. That is the card used by WA4DSY
in his testing!

The modem is $349. We have them in stock.


Gwyn Reedy, W1BEL
PacComm Packet Radio Systems
http://www.paccomm.com


From [e-mail] Tue Dec 03 19:24:54 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Gary Coffman)
Subject: Re: Which radios to use for 9600 baud packet?
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Keywords: packet, radio
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In article <57da1u$[e-mail]> Albert School KB8WES <
[e-mail]> writes:
>Two Questions:
>
>1. Can any commonly available 2m HT's be used for 9600 packet?

The Wilson SM1402 and Mark IV should work. And a Motorola HT220
would probably work too. As long as the HT is crystal controlled,
uses direct FM modulation, and doesn't have too tight IF filtering
on receive, it should work. None of the synthesized HTs are likely
to work correctly, however. That's because the PLL loop filter
distorts the modulation.

>2. If not...What are some economical radios that are available?

Notorola Mitrek and Micor. Icom IC22A. Regency HR-2B. Etc. (These
are all old and cheap, IE in the $25 to $50 range at hamfests.)
Basically, any crystal controlled direct FM radio without excessively
tight IF filtering should work. Synthesized radios are unlikely to work
unless they use IF modulation. IF modulation works because it is outside
the phase locked loop, but IF modulation is typically found only on
all-mode radios (except the Azden PCS9600D, but that's a 70cm only
radio).

Don't believe the advertising hype of "9600 baud ready" on new
synthesized FM radios, it isn't the truth. There are only a few
really 9600 baud ready synthesized 2m voice radios on the market
today, the IC-706, IC-275, IC-821H, and Yaesu FT736R, and they all
require some (at least slight) modification to work properly. They
all use IF modulation, and all cost upwards of $1000.

There are some real plug and play 9600 baud data radios on the market,
however. Kantronics offered one (though I think it is out of production),
MFJ offers one, and the TEKK radios work excellently on 70cm. These radios
are crystal controlled, optimized for data, and best of all are cheap
compared to synthesized voice rigs (under $200).

I think the Hamtronics kits should work fine too. They are crystal
controlled direct FM. Crystal control is perfect for a packet radio,
because you want it to *stay put* on its LAN frequency and not go
wandering off where it doesn't belong (like to a trunk frequency).
You want it to be where the network can always find it when there
is inbound traffic for your station. Network routing can't work
if you channel hop. So the fact most synthesized radios won't work
for 9600 baud isn't a drawback, it is really a plus since it enforces
some network discipline.

Gary
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From [e-mail] Tue Dec 03 19:24:55 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Gary Coffman)
Subject: Re: AEA Equipment
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In article <[e-mail]> "Gary V. Smith" <[e-mail]>
writes:
>
>I recently sent a PK-232 and a PK-232MBX to AEA for repair.  They came
>back with a sticker saying, "out of business."  We've all since heard the
>scoop on the situation.  However, this doesn't get my TNC's any closer to
>repair.  Is there anyone out there willing to take on the repair of these
>units?  Mr. Moore, at AEA, told me that they are looking for someone to
>sub-out the service and repair function and to call back in two weeks.
>That was a week ago.  I'd like to get this equipment in the repair cycle
>somewhere asap.

Well, the PK-232 isn't very complicated. Why don't you just
fix them yourself? As long as the ROMs are Ok, it's a straight
forward job. If the ROMs are bad, you're hosed now that AEA is
gone. What are the symptoms?

Gary
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From [e-mail] Tue Dec 03 19:24:56 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Gary Coffman)
Subject: Re: Newbie Q: radio & modem?
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
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In article <57egh8$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Mike Wootan)
 writes:
>Ken Harris ([e-mail]) wrote:
>
>:      I like the idea of using a PC as a TNC (with just a
>: UART in hardware).  The Baycom modems seem cool.
>
>I was looking at the Baycom radio modem also.  Could someone please tell
>me the advantage of using a TNC vs. going the Baycom route?

Frankly, for 1200 baud Bell 202 over voice grade FM radios, there is
little if any advantage over Baycom to going to a separate TNC. The
Baycom modem and software drivers work well enough. The only possible
downside is that the computer must remain powered. With a TNC with
on-board mailbox, you can shutdown the computer and still receive
AX25 packet mail or act as a digipeater. That's the only advantage
to a TNC for 1200 baud Bell 202 packet. If you keep your computer
powered, there's no reason to use a TNC.

At higher speeds, you need a better modem, but a TNC still isn't
likely the correct solution. Better is a digital interface card
in the PC (like the Ottawa PI-2 card), and the proper software
drivers (built into recent Linux kernels, or in NOS). That'll
let you easily handle 9.6kb, 19.2 kb, or 56 kb with the appropriate
external modem. The exception is if you're using a laptop because
it has no slots for internal cards. Then you may still need the
TNC.

To a large degree, a TNC is an obsolete idea. It was intended to
work with a dumb terminal (*Terminal* Node Controller), and few of
us use those today.

Gary
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From [e-mail] Tue Dec 03 19:24:59 1996
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From: Steve Sampson <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: TCP/IP and Win95
Date: Tue, 26 Nov 1996 12:19:49 -0600
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Robert Barron wrote:
>
> Are there any Win95 drivers for using a standard TNC on a serial port
> with the native Win95 TCP/IP stack?  If not, what are the alternatives?
> I'd rather not have to resort to setting up a LAN in my home to a
> Linux box just to get on to TCP/IP.

How much would you pay for one, if it was available?  I'm just curious.
If there is enough interest, and the unit price was right (cheaper than
buying Linux on a CD)...

No.  The alternative is to run JNOS in a DOS window.  You really don't
want to run your Win95 TCP/IP out the comm port anyway.  Keep the two
systems seperate.  That way your ISP network can't get to your Radio
network.

>
> Does Trumpet Winsock work?  Please let me know what you've got working.

No.

Get the latest version of JNOS on:

ftp://ftp.ucsd.edu/hamradio/packet/tcpip/incoming

Use the binary uploaded, or recompile the way you want.  If you don't
have Borland C++, then you might look at the KA9Q version of NOS, as
Phil has reworked his to compile with GCC I've heard.

One other alternative is to get the K5JB (SK) PIPE.COM program.  This
is a Packet Driver designed to pipe data from two DOS windows to each
other.  With this, you could have JNOS settup for radio in one DOS box,
and another JNOS set up for phone dialup, and PIPE.COM would connect
the two.

Best bet is to just get Linux...

Win95 just isn't designed for slow networks.

Steve


From [e-mail] Tue Dec 03 19:25:00 1996
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From: [e-mail] (John P. Skubick)
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Subject: ICOM IC-781 HF Transceiver
Date: Wed, 27 Nov 1996 00:01:08 GMT
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The ICOM IC-781 HF tranceiver, does anyone know if it's digital
signaling inputs from a TNC are FSK or AFSK?

Thanks.  --John, K8JS



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> In <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (CDN) writes:
> >when you tell a joke about a lawyer it is called funny?
> >hmmmm

Maybe the jokes aren't funny. But neither is what lawyers are helping
to do to our hobby, our country and our world.

People oftn use humor to release frustration and tension. The cost of
doing business with and the results of lawyers causes both. No wonder
there are so many lawyer jokes.

Perhaps if lawyers had a canon of ethics which kept them from taking
frivolous cases, charging exorbanant rates, raping those who win large
judgement sums, and taking or making action that hurt groups like
amateur radio they would have a some respect from the general public.

Of course, some lawyer will try and justify or nullify the above. That's
what they do.


de kg7fu
=20





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Howdy:
 I am not sure if this is the right conference, but here goes.
I recently got an Icom ICT7A dual band handie. The rig is one of these
new fangled models without a squelch control. I have been told that it
is controllable from the TT Pad but there is nothing in the book. Does
anyone know of a way to set the Squelch level and are there any other
secret commands for the rig.

                                                Thanks
                                                Steve VA3SF
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From [e-mail] Tue Dec 03 19:25:03 1996
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From: Burt Fisher <[e-mail]>
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Date: Tue, 26 Nov 1996 21:50:04 -0500
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Thomas Mosher wrote:

> Since when is AEA going tits up?
> --
> Thomas Mosher
> [e-mail]

Hams do not know what "tits" are.
Explain for them.

#================#===================================================#
|  Burt Fisher   |  Teacher of video, broadcasting and electronics   |
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|    K1OIK       |  If you sit on the fence, it is a pain in the butt|
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From [e-mail] Tue Dec 03 19:25:04 1996
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From: "Adi Linden" <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Need TCP/IP advice
Date: 27 Nov 1996 03:27:17 GMT
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Hi there!

I am trying to get some sort of Internet connection going for the local
packet users.  However, I am not sure as to what to do.  I used to operate
a landline BBS connected to Fido and Internet via UUCP.  But I am lost as
to what NOS actually does.

What is needed to connect to a NOS node and send mail,etc.?  Will a generic
packet terminal do or does a user have to run NOS himself?  My knowledge
about NOS is below of what I found so in the software docs for TNOS for
example.  I guess I'll need some basics.

Also, to connect a node in my shack to the Internet via land line, what's
needed?  There is a local provider offering dial-up PPP only.  Or I could
call LD and do UUCP.  Is either possible?  Or do I have to do something
else?

I do live in a rather remote area and there is no NOS node anywhere near I
could possibly connect to via my packet setup.  Any answers to my questions
or tips of where to research would be very much appreciated!

- Adi - VA3ADI - 73's...


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From: [e-mail] (Jeff McLeman)
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Subject: Re: TCP/IP and Win95
Date: Wed, 27 Nov 1996 04:16:51 GMT
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On Tue, 26 Nov 1996 12:19:49 -0600, Steve Sampson
<[e-mail]> wrote:

>Robert Barron wrote:
>>
>> Are there any Win95 drivers for using a standard TNC on a serial port
>> with the native Win95 TCP/IP stack?  If not, what are the alternatives?
>> I'd rather not have to resort to setting up a LAN in my home to a
>> Linux box just to get on to TCP/IP.
>

>Best bet is to just get Linux...
>
>Win95 just isn't designed for slow networks.
>
>Steve


I'd have to agree with Steve. After writing and debugging a packet
radio driver for Windows 95/ Windows NT, the stack is not tolerable to
slow packet networks. Now if all Amateur IP networks were 19200 or
higher, it woudn't be a problem. But I had nothing but problems at
1200. So I stopped developing the driver. Sorry.

Jeff

----------------------------------------------------
Jeff McLeman               [e-mail]
Issaquah, Wa.
A.K.A. KD1IT               kd1it@n7duo.#wwa.wa.usa.na
----------------------------------------------------


From [e-mail] Tue Dec 03 19:25:06 1996
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From: Tom Rehnstrom <[e-mail]>
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Hi all,

I want to build a APT reciever. I once retuned a 2M reciever and fixed
the MF-filter, replaced power supply etc, but the result was poor.. very
sensetive to interference and unstable oscillator (xtal, though)
I've seen a couple of design also, but with more or less obsolete
components. Is there anyone that would like to share their design with
me, or point me in the right direction? I would be most greatful.

Thanx
/Tom    [e-mail]


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From: Steve Stroh <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: Encryption of voice over amateur frequencies is Not legal
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On Mon, 25 Nov 1996, Jamie wrote:

> While it is illegal to encrypt anything over the Ham band. It's not
> illegal to digitize your voice. example use Internet Phone over the
> net. Now the downside. This can at present be only done for experments
> and in  the expermental portion of the bands.

Please explain.  Internet phone is transferring voice through the use of
TCP/IP, which almost always is encapsulated in AX.25 packets.  Every AX.25
packet (should) have the users callsign in the header, thus satisfying the
ID requirement.

TCP/IP is public, AX.25 is public, Internet Phone is public.  I fail to
see ANY rules problem with this approach.

> Seems this is the
> actually way radio should go but we must provide an easy way for the
> FCC to listen in to each conversation before we can do it full time.

As long as you're using public systems, and can produce documentation for
any systems that you build (modulation techniques, coding systems, etc.),
the job of interception is the FCC's concern. Once they have the
intercepted data, all you have to say was "I was using JNOS and Internet
phone" and it's up to the FCC to "reverse engineer" your transmissions.

Steve N8GNJ

--
Steve Stroh  Woodinville, Washington, USA  [e-mail]



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From: "Adi Linden" <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: TNOS v.2.20
Date: 27 Nov 1996 05:39:40 GMT
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Anton Laukhin <[e-mail]> wrote in article
<54nk3s$[e-mail]>...
> -       Who are use TNOS v.2.20 here? I need for autoexec.nos for it. Can
any-
>     body help me with it?
>          Best of luck
>     73 & CUL de Anton
>                            RV3DHC/RK3KPE
>

Check out the TNOS support site at www.lantz.com

I am trying to get a TNOS server working myself but still lack a lot of
info...  Good Luck!

- Adi - VA3ADI -


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From: [e-mail] (Timothy J Salo)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: IP Number
Date: 27 Nov 1996 00:06:16 -0600
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In article <[e-mail]>,
David Woolley <[e-mail]> wrote:
>
>Versions of nslookup do exist for Windows.  NT 4, has one included.

nslookup can query the domain name system (DNS) and, for example,
return the IP address(es) associated with a domain name, such as an ampr.org
name, (and conversely, return the name associated with an IP address).

Many versions of nslookup will also dump the whole zone file (DNS
source file) for a domain.  Alternatively, the zone file for ampr.org
appears to be stored at ftp:ucsd.edu/hamradio

> -rw-r--r--   1 32767  32766  1151143 Nov 26 13:02 ampr.org
> -rw-r--r--   1 32767  32766  1267553 Nov 26 13:02 ampr.org.rev
> -rw-r--r--   1 32767  32766   725665 Nov 26 13:04 ampr.tar.Z
> -rw-r--r--   1 32767  32766  1377850 Nov 26 13:04 amprhosts
> -rw-r--r--   1 32767  32766     9031 Nov 26 13:02 amprnets

The file ampr.org appears, in fact, to be the output of an nslookup
command.  The first few lines look like, (I deleted most of the
44205 lines of ampr.org):

> > ls -d ampr.org
> [ucsd.edu]
>  ampr.org.                      SOA   ampr.org brian.ucsd.edu. (96111913 360
00 )
>  AMPR.ORG.                      NS    trout.nosc.mil
>  AMPR.ORG.                      NS    haig.cs.ucl.ac.uk
>  AMPR.ORG.                      NS    munnari.OZ.AU
>  AMPR.ORG.                      NS    ns.ripe.net
>  AMPR.ORG.                      NS    thenetmagic.netmanage.co.il
>  AMPR.ORG.                      NS    orfeas.chemeng.ntua.gr
>  AMPR.ORG.                      NS    ucsd.edu
>  AMPR.ORG.                      A     44.0.0.1
>  sk0ar-11                       A     44.140.2.1
>  sk0ar-4                        A     44.140.3.3
>  va3spf                         A     44.135.92.53
>  bkbn.va3spf                    A     44.135.92.54
>  sk0ar-5                        A     44.140.1.3
>  hb9bht.c                       A     44.142.31.42
>  hb9rfc.c                       A     44.142.31.44
>  sk0ar-7                        A     44.140.1.1
>  n4djv-pc                       A     44.36.8.13
>  n4ebv-pc                       A     44.36.8.42
>  ka0ysq-cidl3                   A     44.50.0.58
>  wa3hgw                         A     44.112.0.6
>       [...]

The file amprhosts contains the interesting information from the above
file in a bit less esoteric format.

Note that file amprnets lists the people who have volunteered to
assign 44.x.x.x addresses in particular geographic areas.

Without a doubt, far more than anyone wanted wanted to know, from:

-tjs


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From: Tom <[e-mail]>
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FUman wrote:
>
> > In <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (CDN) writes:
> > >when you tell a joke about a lawyer it is called funny?
> > >hmmmm
>
> Maybe the jokes aren't funny. But neither is what lawyers are helping
> to do to our hobby, our country and our world.
>
> People oftn use humor to release frustration and tension. The cost of
> doing business with and the results of lawyers causes both. No wonder
> there are so many lawyer jokes.
>
> Perhaps if lawyers had a canon of ethics which kept them from taking
> frivolous cases, charging exorbanant rates, raping those who win large
> judgement sums, and taking or making action that hurt groups like
> amateur radio they would have a some respect from the general public.
>
> Of course, some lawyer will try and justify or nullify the above. That's
> what they do.
>
> de kg7fu
>


I won't try to nullify your argument...I'm ready for a return to the wild
west where things got settled with force instead of the law...


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From: [e-mail] (Matt Harris)
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Subject: Re: Internet connection on a boat, worldwide?
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On 6 Nov 1996 06:04:11 -0800, [e-mail] (root) wrote:

>In article <55p8hf$[e-mail]>, Bob Hauck <[e-mail]> wrote:
>>In article <[e-mail]>,
>>      [e-mail] (Stephen Harris) writes:
>>
>>: [e-mail] (Larry Butler) writes:
>>
>>: > Axel Boldt <[e-mail]> wrote:
>>
>>: > >2) If not, which speeds are possible over duplex packet radio?
>
>Point:  packet radio is simplex!
Since when is packet radio ONLY simplex?  true; most plain-jane VHF
packet IS simplex, but I have run duplex packet with a freind (so many
times I can't remember) using 2 bands. (eg. 2 m/70 cm duplex)
Matt Harris

KD4PBS



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From: Thomas Mosher <[e-mail]>
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Jim Kehler wrote:
>
> Bob wrote:
>
> >>> Given that AEA is in the process of selling off their residual
> >>> production to go out of business, I am just amazed at this impressive
> >>> good deal R&L Electronics is offering...  NOT!!
> >>>
> >>> It sure looks to me that they're all too willing to screw a few
> >>> customers to solve their stock problems...
> >>>
> >>> Wouldn't it have been a little more fair of you to caveat your ad here
> >>> with the note that they who buy AEA products now do so with little to
> >>> no possibility of product support, since AEA is about to go belly up?
> >>> Oh well, bidness is bidness!!!
> >>>
>
> AEA didn't have any product support when they WERE in business, so
> what's the big deal ?  The typical ham doesn't look for support anyway,
> all they care about is saving ten bucks.
>
> >>> As always: caveat emptor.  I'll remember this ad next time I'm
> >>> shopping for gear...
> >>>
> >>> Bob
> >>>
>
> If you think R & L did something wrong by putting something on sale to
> get rid of it, you are probably pissed off at the produce guy in your local
> grocery store most of the time too.   R & L always had good prices, in my bo
ok.
> But you go right ahead and get even with them by paying more for something
> somewhere else.  That will really piss 'em off........
>
> 73,  Jim KH2D
Since when is AEA going tits up?
--
Thomas Mosher
[e-mail]




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From: [e-mail] (Thomas Mahanna)
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Subject: Where to get a list of RTTY Stations?
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Hi:
        Is there a current list of RTTY/AMTOR/SITOR, etc stations out
there? Thanks.

-Tom



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From: Dave Maciorowski <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: TCP/IP and Win95
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Jeff McLeman wrote:
> I'd have to agree with Steve. After writing and debugging a packet
> radio driver for Windows 95/ Windows NT, the stack is not tolerable to
> slow packet networks. Now if all Amateur IP networks were 19200 or
> higher, it woudn't be a problem. But I had nothing but problems at
> 1200. So I stopped developing the driver. Sorry.

        How about at 9600?  We have two 9600 baud repeaters here in
Colorado that are routed to each other and to a 56kb leased line to
the Internet.  Would your driver and the Win95 stack work in
this environment?

        Also, we'll be moving up to 56kb (WA4DSY modems).  Do you have
any interest in finishing your driver for that environment?

-----
Dave Maciorowski, WA1JHK
Colorado Repeater Association, Inc.
  Serving Colorado with Voice and Data, 6-Meters to 1.2 Gig

Internet: [e-mail] or [e-mail]
CRA:      http://www.rmsd.com/hamradio/cra/


From [e-mail] Tue Dec 03 19:25:16 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Gary Coffman)
Subject: Re: *** AEA DSP-232 only $ 379.00 ***
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In article <57f4e0$[e-mail]> Jeff Griffin <[e-mail]
v> writes:
>I had a DSP-232 for about a week. One of the main problems was
>a birdie at 145.085-145.105. This is right in the middle of the
>local packet bbs area. With a cable connected to the 232 my ht
>picked up this birdie from 35 feet away (s9). The case by
>itself tx's  up th 5 feet away. I checked the unit for proper
>grounding, and found no problem areas. I tryed to use the unit
>for 9600 sat work and was only able to get a weak signal from
>KO-23. I took my 232 back to HRO for an exchange, thinking that
>I must have gotten a defective unit, but the one the shelf did
>the same thing. On the way to HRO I talked to two people both
>returned their DSP-232's for a refund. Knowing the state of
>AEA, (I called late last week for tech help. The recorded
>message said the company was being 'bought' and any tech
>problems or servive warrenty work needed, call ARRL in about a
>month). I was very lucky to get my money back. I now plan on
>buying a TAPR DSP93 kit.

Heh, this is a common problem, and not just with the DSP-232.
The PK-232 has it too. The problem is a lack of RF bond between
the case halves. If you sand the paint off the mating surfaces,
and use a screw every 5 cm (as is standard VHF shielding practice),
those harmonics of the reference oscillator stay inside where
they belong, and don't radiate all over the shack.

Gary
--
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Destructive Testing Systems |    we break it.     | with previous uucp address
es
534 Shannon Way             |    Guaranteed!      | Email to [e-mail]
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From [e-mail] Tue Dec 03 19:25:17 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Gary Coffman)
Subject: Re: TNC plans ?
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
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In article <[e-mail]> Gary Tait
<[e-mail]> writes:
>Where can I find full TNC-2 plans/board patterns/ ROM images,
>based on a Z80 CPU.

Contact TAPR. They'll give you all that for the standard license
fee.

>Gary Tait , VE3VBF
>- Please do not quote US prices, they are no good to me ,here in Canada -

I'd tell you what the fee is (NAFTA makes it the same in Canada as the
US), but you don't seem to want to know.

Gary
--
Gary Coffman KE4ZV          |    You make it,     | Due to provider problems
Destructive Testing Systems |    we break it.     | with previous uucp address
es
534 Shannon Way             |    Guaranteed!      | Email to [e-mail]
Lawrenceville, GA 30244     |                     |


From [e-mail] Tue Dec 03 19:25:18 1996
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From: Bosse =?iso-8859-1?Q?Alv=E4ng?= <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Looking for SB soft...
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Hello out there...
Can anyone give me a hint on how to find SoundBlaster programs
for use in our fine hobby. All hints are appreciated!!!
-- =


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From [e-mail] Tue Dec 03 19:25:20 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Edward Lewis)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: Which radios to use for 9600 baud packet?
Date: Wed, 27 Nov 1996 16:54:04 GMT
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[e-mail] wrote:

>
>In Article<57da1u$[e-mail]>, <[e-mail].o
hio-state.edu> writes:
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.sprintlink.net!news-peer.sprintlink.net!howland.erols.net!math.ohio-state.edu
!magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu!!aschool
>> From: Albert School KB8WES <[e-mail]>
>> Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
>> Subject: Which radios to use for 9600 baud packet?
>> Date: 25 Nov 1996 23:27:58 GMT
>> Organization: The Ohio State University
>> Lines: 10
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>> NNTP-Posting-Host: achilles.medctr.ohio-state.edu
>> Keywords: packet, radio
>> Originator: aschool@
>>
>> Two Questions:
>>
>> 1. Can any commonly available 2m HT's be used for 9600 packet?
>>
>> 2. If not...What are some economical radios that are available?
>>
>> Thanks in advance,
>>
>> Albert
>> [e-mail]
>
>Can't really answer #1 because I have never seen mods for 9600 for a ht.
>
>But for #2, if you want to get onto 9600 packet on 440 mhz, check out the
>Tekk data radios. They run at about 2w-2.5w and about the size of credit
>card. Normally the run at about $150 for xtals and shipping and can only
>be special ordered thru a Tekk distributer called Metro North Communications
>in Kansas City, Mo....number is 816-452-1900
>
>John
>KD6CLO
>
>
The MFJ 8621 packet radio runs 9600 packet with 5 watts. $ 119.95 from
HRO.


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From: Thomas Sailer <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: SoundBlaster software?
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> Hello out there...
> Can anyone give me a hint on how to find SoundBlaster programs
> for use in our fine hobby. All hints are appreciated!!!
For Packet Radio:
http://home.pages.de/~flexnet
or your favorite Linux kernel archive.

Tom


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In Article<01bbdc0a$ff402c40$[e-mail]>, <[e-mail]> writes:
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> From: "FUman" <[e-mail]>
> Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.antenna,rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc,rec.rad
io.amateur.dx,rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.homebrew,rec.radio
.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.policy,rec.radio.amateur.space
> Subject: Re: ARRL lawyer to sue member
> Date: 27 Nov 1996 02:28:05 GMT
> Organization: kg7fu
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> References: <01bb739f.8e9f00c0$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]
.ac.uk> <56clho$8cp$[e-mail]> <57a3vj$[e-mail]> <57ac
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icy:12573 rec.radio.amateur.space:3862
>
> > In <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (CDN) writes:
> > >when you tell a joke about a lawyer it is called funny?
> > >hmmmm
>
> Maybe the jokes aren't funny. But neither is what lawyers are helping
> to do to our hobby, our country and our world.
>
> People oftn use humor to release frustration and tension. The cost of
> doing business with and the results of lawyers causes both. No wonder
> there are so many lawyer jokes.
>
> Perhaps if lawyers had a canon of ethics which kept them from taking
> frivolous cases, charging exorbanant rates, raping those who win large
> judgement sums, and taking or making action that hurt groups like
> amateur radio they would have a some respect from the general public.
>
> Of course, some lawyer will try and justify or nullify the above. That's
> what they do.
>
>
> de kg7fu
> =20
>
>
>
YEA! YOU TELL'EM JAMES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

de kd6clo   :)



From [e-mail] Tue Dec 03 19:25:24 1996
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From: Robert Barron <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: TCP/IP and Win95
Date: Wed, 27 Nov 1996 12:07:27 -0600
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Steve Sampson wrote:
>
> Robert Barron wrote:
> >
> > Are there any Win95 drivers for using a standard TNC on a serial port
> > with the native Win95 TCP/IP stack?  If not, what are the alternatives?
> > I'd rather not have to resort to setting up a LAN in my home to a
> > Linux box just to get on to TCP/IP.
>
> How much would you pay for one, if it was available?  I'm just curious.
> If there is enough interest, and the unit price was right (cheaper than
> buying Linux on a CD)...

I'd pay $50 or maybe more.  I understand that Linux is all ready to go.
But I don't want to have to boot Linux to check my email when I'm trying
to get some work done under Win95.

> No.  The alternative is to run JNOS in a DOS window.  You really don't
> want to run your Win95 TCP/IP out the comm port anyway.  Keep the two
> systems seperate.  That way your ISP network can't get to your Radio
> network.

Well that's not a factor for me.  I don't access the Internet from home.

> Get the latest version of JNOS on:
>
> ftp://ftp.ucsd.edu/hamradio/packet/tcpip/incoming
>
> Use the binary uploaded, or recompile the way you want.  If you don't
> have Borland C++, then you might look at the KA9Q version of NOS, as
> Phil has reworked his to compile with GCC I've heard.

Thanks for the info.  I may have to go that way but I would prefer some
other method, if one exists.

> Best bet is to just get Linux...

Actually I already have Linux though with an older kernel that does not
have the AX.25 support in it.

> Win95 just isn't designed for slow networks.

This may be but surely some of the faster Amateur TCP/IP networks are
as fast as a slow dialup line.  I'm a little confused as to why someone
has not come up with a solution to this.

If someone could come up with a packet driver for Win95 I think that
more people would give TCP/IP a try.  I can set up Linux or NOS to
do this (I've set up NOS before and I program Unix at work) but I would
rather not have to do this at home!

73,

Robert KA5WSS
[e-mail]


From [e-mail] Tue Dec 03 19:25:25 1996
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From: [e-mail]
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: AEA Equipment
Date: 27 Nov 1996 18:43:32 GMT
Organization: DigiPhone Corporation, Bryan/College Station Texas 409-693-8885
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In <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Gary Coffma
n) writes:
>In article <[e-mail]> "Gary V. Smith" <[e-mail]>
 writes:
>>
>
>Well, the PK-232 isn't very complicated. Why don't you just
>fix them yourself? As long as the ROMs are Ok, it's a straight
>forward job. If the ROMs are bad, you're hosed now that AEA is
>gone. What are the symptoms?
>
>Gary
>--
>Gary Coffman KE4ZV          |    You make it,     | Due to provider problems
>Destructive Testing Systems |    we break it.     | with previous uucp addres
ses
>534 Shannon Way             |    Guaranteed!      | Email to [e-mail]
>Lawrenceville, GA 30244     |                     |

ROM's are sometimes like oil wells.   When you have a burner, all you need
is one good one!

    :)

If they never solve the sale or public release, someone will eventually slant
drill the field, I would guess, advocacy not withstanding.  A real advocate
of the situation might even be able to CH7 them and class action the shrapnel
if much ado was made over something at that point.

    :)


//-----------------------------
Mike - W5WQN
[e-mail]
[e-mail]



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From: [e-mail] (Lee Mairs)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Need PK232 Amtor Help
Date: 27 Nov 1996 19:07:14 GMT
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I've decided to try HF digital modes and probably will
need a bit of help.  I've a good station, antenna and a
PK232MBX with software for Pactor.  ANybody in the
Northern VA, DC area willing to Elmer me thru the
initial stages?  For one - How can I tell if its Amtor
as opposed to one of the other tors?
Lee Mairs
KM4YY



From [e-mail] Tue Dec 03 19:25:27 1996
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From: [e-mail] (John Minger)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: CW Program/Power Mac
Date: 27 Nov 1996 19:53:24 GMT
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In article <angell-1611962002190001@206.24.45.55>,
V.C. Angell <[e-mail]> wrote:
>Does anyone know of a CW practice program that will run on a Power Mac?
>The CW practice program we have been using no longer works when we changed
>Macs (It works, but it sends at 9,000 WPM!)
> HELP?
>
>"VC" KC0EM


I found that Morse Trainer-US V1.1.1 still works OK on my
PowerTower Pro 225 (Macintosh clone), which uses a 604e processor.
All the other ones I have fail to work.

Take a look at John Seney's web pages.  I found some info on the
Morse stuff on http://www.mv.com/ipusers/wd1v/page5.html

Here is the boilerplate from that page about Morse Trainer:

------begin quotation-----

 MORSE TRAINER-US V1.1.1
MorseTrainer is a powerful tool for learning and training Morse
code. Features: Three different training modes: user text, random
text, library text; Arbitrary signal pitch and timbre; Arbitrary
speed and tempo; Multi-alphabet support; Random text generator;
Text library editor; On-line alphabet; On-line manual; Help
Balloons; And a lot more. New features in 1.1: Enhanced sound
generator, volume control and risetime control. The pitch is set
in steps of 10Hz instead of using MIDI frequencies; Speed and
tempo limits increased to 80 words/minute as a result of the
enhanced sound generator; User-selectable font in the Misc
settings dialog.  FREEWARE!

This version uses TrueType fonts instead on bitmaps fonts so
that the user can distinguish 0(zero) from O(character).
Furthermore speed and tempo can be given in either
characters/minute or words/minute.  Archive is available
mac.archive.umich.edu, path: mac/util/organization/ Author is
available via internet: [e-mail]

-----end-----

Good luck and remember to keep the character speed high,
20 wpm or more, so you will learn the real sound of the
code.  Otherwise, you will get stuck on dots and dashes and
have to "un-learn" those bad habits.

-John, AC6VV


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From: [e-mail] (Sigvald Refsum)
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If you really want it, you can get it, but at a cost.
There is a global satellite system called Inmarsat, which have telephone,
fax, data and high speed data services.

There are several suppliers of equpment to this marked. Nera is one of
them. As I work as with data applications on this equipment i will be
biazed in favour of our equipment.

Inmarsat B
        Voice
        Fax  9,6
        Data 9,6 kbps
        Data 64/56 kbps
        Telex

Inmarsat M
        Voice
        Fax  2,4
        Data 2,4 kbps

Inmarsat Phone
        Voice
        Fax  2,4
        Data 2,4 kbps

Inmarsat C
        600 bps store & forward

Inmarsat D
        Pager system

The maritime systems comes with autotracking or unidirectional antennas.
With a Inmarsat B system you can connect a CISCO router directly to the
units HSD channel and configure the CISCO to do DTR dial or V.25bis dial
access to the Inmarsat B system. Many ISP (internet service providers)
support dial-in ISDN connections using PPP and CISCO routers.

With this system you get a digital connection all the way from the boat
to the internet.
There are more information available at www.inmarsat.org and
www.nera.no.

I will also be happy to supply more info if wanted.

Best regards
Sigvald



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From [e-mail] Tue Dec 03 19:25:31 1996
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From: [e-mail] (John Dundas)
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Subject: SYS 20 Attendance List 27 Nov 96
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Hi Martin,

   The bid is 62303_GB7SAN. Will send down the agenda list also.

Rgds John




SYSOPS 20 Attendees List Update No. 002 Dated 27 Nov 96.

Hello One and all,

The following have indicated that they will be attending the SYS20 meeting
to be held in Glasgow on Saturday the 7th of December:

CALL             Position
GM0JQE   SYSOP GB7AYR
GM7DUG  ASST SYSOP GB7AYR
GM0OPS   SYSOP GB7SDX
GM4CXM  ASST SYSOP GB7SDX
GM1FML  SDX Support Group and MacPac Committee Member
GM4COX  C.S.F.M.G Repeater Group
G1DVU           SYSOP GB7SXE  DCC Member
G4HIP           SYSOP GB7BBC
G4OAR           SYSOP GB7OAR
G7HUD           NWPUG
G1TLH           SYSOP GB7TLH
G4AVN           SYSOP GB7TDX
G7UZS           ASST SYSOP GB7TDX
GM4WZY  SYSOP GB7NDX
G0BLE           SYSOP GB7BLE
GM3YEW  SYSOP GB7YEW

The following have sent in their apologies:

GM4ANB, GM7AOM, G4AJJ, G3ZXN, GI3TLT, GI4WRI, GI4AHP, G0LGS, G8JHE, G7OPJ,
G0UHK, G8OQN, G4EGH, GM4UPX, G7JHE, GW8TVX, G7JYF

(If you have been missed of the list please let me know)

If you would like to attend this important meeting at which the Radio
Communications Agency will be present, then please let me know. These
meetings are a good way to put forward your views and the views of your
group and users to the RA and the RSGB DCC.

rgds John Dundas GM0OPS @ GB7SAN
e-mail: [e-mail]
Tel: [phone] (Most evenings till 23.00)





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From: [e-mail] (John Dundas)
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Subject: SYS 20 Agenda List 27 Nov 96
Date: 27 Nov 1996 22:33:07 GMT
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GB7SDX             1 0 1 540       2

GM0OPS 26-Nov-1996 0806Z CP GM0OPS: AGENDA ITEMS TO DA
R:961126/0709Z @:GB7SAN.#78.GBR.EU [Glasgow] FBB5.14d #:261603
Original from GB7SDX to SYS20@GBR

Hello One and all,
  The following is a list of agenda items for SYS20 to be held in Glasgow
on Sunday the 7th of December 1996.

1. Outstanding Items from SYS19 (Seperate message to be issued)
2. 2m bandplan. New subband for packet radio.                   GM0OPS

    If you have any items for the agenda please send them to me and also
to SYS20@GBR.

rgds John Dundas@GB7SAN
E-Mail: [e-mail]
Tel: [phone] (Most evenings til 23.00)




From [e-mail] Tue Dec 03 19:25:32 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Pete)
Newsgroups: aus.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Winpack version 6.10 FAQ
Date: Thu, 28 Nov 1996 01:24:55 GMT
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Hello Winhackers

As I've received a rather LARGE number of questions about Winpack
version 6.10, I'd decided to put up an FAQ Web page to get you through
some of the downloading problems and registration issues.

Drop in for a browse.  I hope to have a more comprehensive FAQ up and
running in a few weeks to cater for the technical queries....

Point your browser to the Winpack web page:

http://www.acay.com.au/~vk2yx/winpack.html

Cheers..Peter


From [e-mail] Tue Dec 03 19:25:33 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Pete)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: SYSOP 19 Minutes Release before SYSOP 20 Meeting
Date: Thu, 28 Nov 1996 02:29:36 GMT
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On 26 Nov 1996 07:03:50 GMT, [e-mail] (John Dundas)
wrote:


>e)   PGP/M-FILTER/PASSWORDS
>
>At SYSOP 18 G7AYI agreed to write a paper on the subject of PGP, M-Filter
>and  passwords for the RA and the DCC.
>
>G7AYI could not attend the meeting and the paper was submitted on his behalf
>by  G3ZFR.
>
>The paper was read out by G3ZFR and was split into four sections:
>M-Filter, PGP, Passwords and A Combined System.
>
>A discussion took place on the content of the document.
>
>G6BSK proposed that the name itself is misleading and should be changed to
>User Authentication Signature Seconded by G8OQN. The proposal was carried.
>

As a keen supporter of the use of PGP - User Authentication Signature,
I am interested in how this subject is progressing.  I was advised by
a number of Hams in the UK that messages with PGP Signatures would be
removed from the UK packet network.

Can anyone provide us ALL with information of how this is progressing
?  I would like to provide some feedback to the hams in VK as to the
current positon in G Land....

I'm glad that a VERY sensible statement was made here, changing PGP
from PGP encryption to User Authentication Signature.

Thanks..Peter..vk2yx
email:[e-mail]


From [e-mail] Tue Dec 03 19:25:34 1996
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From: "Erik Skovgaard" <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: Sound Blaster 16 Spectral display & Filtering FREEWARE
Date: 28 Nov 1996 03:47:14 GMT
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Jay,

It must be a local problem.  It works for me.  Try it a couple of times.
Sometimes the DNS cache needs to be refreshed and a second or third attempt
does the job.  Netscape is a little impatient with DNS.

73 de VE7MDL                 ....Erik.


Jay <[e-mail]> wrote in article
<[e-mail]>...
> [e-mail] (Dave Rickmers) wrote:
>
> >[e-mail] (Tim Smith) wrote:
> >
> >
> >>Can you tell me what the s/w is called and where I could d/l it?
> >>
> >>> http://www.simtel.net/pub/simtelnet/msdos/hamradio/sbfft11.zip
> >>> ftp://ftp.simtel.net/pub/simtelnet/msdos/hamradio/sbfft11.zip
1032518 bytes
> >>>
> >>> sbfft11.zip     Sound Blaster spectral display and filtering
> >dr
> Is the software anywhere else on the net?? I can't connect to
> simtel.net for some reason. Netscape keeps giving me "no DNS entry"
>
> Thanks
> Jay
> [e-mail]
>


From [e-mail] Tue Dec 03 19:25:35 1996
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From: "Erik Skovgaard" <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc,comp.os.linux.networking,rec.boats
Subject: Re: Internet connection on a boat, worldwide?
Date: 28 Nov 1996 03:55:33 GMT
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As the CEO of Inmarsat said at a conference, I attended a few years ago,
"It is a wide-held misconception that Inmarsat only provides expensive
services to large ships.  I would like to correct this error.  Inmarsat
*also* provides expensive services to small ships"

If you only need email, try looking at "www.pinoak.com".  I do not have any
personal experience (except with Clover Modems), but at least it looks
interesting.

Cheers,                              ....Erik.

m/v DOROTHY B, Vancouver, B.C.

Sigvald Refsum <[e-mail]> wrote in article
<57h8eu$[e-mail]>...
> If you really want it, you can get it, but at a cost.
> There is a global satellite system called Inmarsat, which have telephone,
> fax, data and high speed data services.
>
> There are several suppliers of equpment to this marked. Nera is one of
> them. As I work as with data applications on this equipment i will be
> biazed in favour of our equipment.
>
(stuff deleted)


From [e-mail] Tue Dec 03 19:25:37 1996
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From: Burt Fisher <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: *** AEA DSP-232 only $ 379.00 ***
Date: Wed, 27 Nov 1996 23:09:10 -0500
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Brian Carling wrote:

> |>Hams do not know what "tits" are.
> |>Explain for them.
> |>
> |>#================#===================================================#
> |>|  Burt Fisher   |  Teacher of lunacy |
>
> Here's the explanation:
> They are those three things on Burt Fisher's CHEST!

Typical ham response.

#================#===================================================#
|  Burt Fisher   |  Teacher of video, broadcasting and electronics   |
| Amateur call   |         South Dennis, Ma. (Cape Cod)              |
|    K1OIK       |  If you sit on the fence, it is a pain in the butt|
#================#===================================================#
|This message was posted from home            [e-mail]       |
#====================================================================#
If you try to milk too much, you won't get a drop
Samantha Fisher


From [e-mail] Tue Dec 03 19:25:38 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Eric Bear Albrecht)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc,rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Learning code (was Re: CW Program/Power Mac)
Date: Wed, 27 Nov 1996 21:20:51 -0800
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John Minger <[e-mail]> wrote:

[snip]
>
> Good luck and remember to keep the character speed high,
> 20 wpm or more, so you will learn the real sound of the
> code.  Otherwise, you will get stuck on dots and dashes and
> have to "un-learn" those bad habits.
>
> -John, AC6VV

This is good and essential advice, and I'm really glad that nowadays
people recognize the problem.  It's half the solution, or less than
half; the most important thing (IMHO) is learning the long characters
first (at high char speed of course) instead of the way I was crippled:
if you learn the simple ones first, then you end up making as many
decisions per character as there are elements in the character.  Gak!
Furious activity in one part of the brain, while another part of the
brain is sitting around just getting frustrated.

;B

--
"I'm not a member of any organized political group --
 I'm a Democrat."          -- Will Rogers

Eric Bear Albrecht  W5VZB  [e-mail]


From [e-mail] Tue Dec 03 19:25:39 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Victor V Voronkov)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: TNC plans ?
Date: 28 Nov 1996 06:33:21 GMT
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Gary Tait ([e-mail]) wrote:
> Where can I find full TNC-2 plans/board patterns/ ROM images,
> based on a Z80 CPU.

Some time ago I find scheme, PCB layout of TNC on a some ftp site.
Today I put this file on ftp://ftp.stack.net/pub/ham/packet/dixtnc.zip

Interesting, possibly to find on Internet sheme, PCB layout for making
more new TNC2≤(H,X), TNC3 ?

73! de RX3DIN  Victor
---
http://www.stack.net/~victor/hamradio/


From [e-mail] Tue Dec 03 19:25:40 1996
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From: Chuck Harrington <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: *** AEA DSP-232 only $ 379.00 ***
Date: Thu, 28 Nov 1996 02:32:49 -0500
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Thomas Mosher wrote:
>
> Since when is AEA going tits up?
> --
> Thomas Mosher
> [e-mail]

Since November 15th, there abouts...
RIP

--
Visual PacketPeT - Terminal Software For All hardware TNCs!
Visit WEB SIGHT  - http://www.gate.net/~paketpet
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EMAIL - [e-mail]


From [e-mail] Tue Dec 03 19:25:41 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Brian Carling)
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Subject: Re: *** AEA DSP-232 only $ 379.00 ***
Date: Thu, 28 Nov 1996 10:24:53 GMT
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Burt Fisher <[e-mail]> whistled a happy tune like:

|>Thomas Mosher wrote:

|>> Since when is AEA going tits up?
|>> --
|>> Thomas Mosher
|>> [e-mail]

|>Hams do not know what "tits" are.
|>Explain for them.
|>
|>#================#===================================================#
|>|  Burt Fisher   |  Teacher of lunacy |

Here's the explanation:
They are those three things on Burt Fisher's CHEST!

73 from Amateur Radio AF4K  /  G3XLQ
http://www.mnsinc.com/bry
E-mail:  [e-mail]
Home of MEGALIST ham radio files, pirate links etc. etc.



From [e-mail] Tue Dec 03 19:25:43 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Cj N1WKO)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: killing the internal speaker
Date: 28 Nov 96 05:45:12 EST
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I have a Yeasu FT-2500M working as my packet radio right now.  When I first
hooked it up last May, I noticed that the radio will send the audio thorugh th
e
mic jack.  This is the way I had left it up till ths morning.

I was doing some work on my power suply, and figured that I would add the mini
plug to go in back of the radio, and kill the internal speaker (thus not havin
g
to hear the noise of the packets).  All has gone well, except one thing, there
is still audio coming from the speaker.  I thought if there was a plug in the
jack, that was supposed to kill the speaker.  Am I wrong?  Is there something
wrong with the radio?  I would snip the wires to the speaker, but once I get
the outdoor anteana up, I am putting this radio back in the car.

Any suggestions?

-Cj

--
There is a theory that states, "If the answer to the question of life, the
universe, and everything and the question itself were known simutaniously, the
universe would cease to exist as we know it.  There is another theory that thi
s
has already happened. -Douglas Adams, "So Long, and Thanks For All the Fish"


From [e-mail] Tue Dec 03 19:25:44 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Cj N1WKO)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: Newbie Q: radio & modem?
Date: 28 Nov 96 05:57:55 EST
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In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Gar
y
Coffman) writes:

> To a large degree, a TNC is an obsolete idea. It was intended to
> work with a dumb terminal (*Terminal* Node Controller), and few of
> us use those today.

Speak for yourself.   In this area, having an autominous TNC working on the
radio stuff is still desirable over bogging the computer down with another
process.  This is especially the case when stacking TNC's.  A lot of us in thi
s
area have nodes on 145.01 - 145.09.  Also, running a dumb terminal and a TNC i
s
a lot cheaper than trying to get a pc good enough to run multiple processes.

This is starting to sound like a flame, but it is not intended to be, sorry.

-Cj

--
There is a theory that states, "If the answer to the question of life, the
universe, and everything and the question itself were known simutaniously, the
universe would cease to exist as we know it.  There is another theory that thi
s
has already happened. -Douglas Adams, "So Long, and Thanks For All the Fish"


From [e-mail] Tue Dec 03 19:25:45 1996
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From: [e-mail] (John D. Seney, WD1V,   LeCroy T&M   800.553.2769)
Subject: Macintosh Ham Radio Software List
Organization: MV Communications, Inc.
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
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Date: Thu, 28 Nov 1996 11:17:18 GMT
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On my WWW page - or if you want the list as an attached
file, send me an email with SUBSCRIBE MAC SOFTWARE LIST
on the subject line.

73,

John D. Seney
http://www.mv.com/ipusers/wd1v


From [e-mail] Tue Dec 03 19:25:46 1996
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From: [e-mail](MICHAEL J DRUM)
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Subject: WTB: Kenwood IF-10D or plans to build.
Date: 28 Nov 1996 11:19:35 GMT
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Greetings,

I am still looking to buy or build a Kenwood IF-10D interface for my
TS-60s all-mode transceiver. This interface mounts inside the radio and
serves as a buffer between the radios digital board and a level
converter such as Kenwood's IF-232C interface. I am building my own
level converter from readily available plans, but I have not been able
to find any plans or specifications on the IF-10D.

If you have information on this interface, or have an IF-10D you would
like to part with, please leave me a private Email message and I will
get back to you.

All reply's will be answered.

Thanks for your time.

Mike, N2QAC.



From [e-mail] Tue Dec 03 19:25:47 1996
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From: [e-mail](MICHAEL J DRUM)
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Subject: Any feedback on TS-50 or 60 computer control?
Date: 28 Nov 1996 11:28:12 GMT
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Greetings,

I am planning on building and buying the hardware to interface my
Kenwood TS-60s to my computer. I am sure their are others who have
already done this and have some opinion on the software available to
control the radio once the interfacing has been done. I would like to
hear from people who use their radios in this manner and get their
feedback on what software they use and what they like or do not like
about it. Any recomendations would be appreciated.

Thanks for your time and all reply's will be answered.

Mike, N2QAC.



From [e-mail] Tue Dec 03 19:25:49 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Markus Baertschi)
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  David,

  I'm interested as well.

  73 Markus    HB9VCD

[e-mail] (Jens David DG1KJD) wrote:

>Hi,

>In <[e-mail]>, Ken Morris <[e-mail]> writes
:
>>As with ETHERAX25 program, this allows to trick DOS TCP/IP programs
>>to believe it is talking to LAN card, so that Internet programs
>>can be used on amateur radio. Has anyone seen a program to allow
>>the same for OS/2 inbuilt TCP/IP to talk on ax.25 network ?

>Yep, I was working on it, but I stopped development some month ago because th
ere
>seemed to be no real interest in it.
>However, it already works but is a little unstable and wastes a lot of CPU po
wer.
>It is called "WAMPlus" (derived from WAMPES bye DK5SG/KA9Q) and was ported fr
om
>the linux version.
>It is easy-to-use and provides a lot of advanced features like AX25 callsign
filter,
>KISS multiport support, flexnet support, netrom support, "autorouter" and so
on.

>I'd continue development on it if there was more interest in it.

>>
>>So in short, I am looking for AX.25 driver for OS/2. OS/2 has been
>>very good (Merlin Version 4 even better), so would like to use
>>more of it's inbuilt features.
>>
>>
>>73's
>>Ken VK4KWM

>73 + 55
>   Jens

>---- 73 + 55 ------------------ Jens David, DG1KJD --------------------------
--
>AMPRnet+global: [e-mail] -- DieBug: dg1kjd@db0ach.#nrw.deu.
eu
>>>>            Tel./Fax/Dial-in V32bis,V42bis: [phone]              <
<<
><<<       dg1kjd-svr.ampr.org [44.130.21.60] AX25: DG1KJD via DB0ME         >
>>





From [e-mail] Tue Dec 03 19:25:50 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Gary Fiber)
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Subject: Re: AEA Equipment
Date: Thu, 28 Nov 1996 14:46:37 GMT
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[e-mail] (Gary Coffman) wrote:

>In article <[e-mail]> "Gary V. Smith" <[e-mail]>
 writes:
>>
>>I recently sent a PK-232 and a PK-232MBX to AEA for repair.  They came
>>back with a sticker saying, "out of business."  We've all since heard the
>>scoop on the situation.  However, this doesn't get my TNC's any closer to
>>repair.  Is there anyone out there willing to take on the repair of these
>>units?  Mr. Moore, at AEA, told me that they are looking for someone to
>>sub-out the service and repair function and to call back in two weeks.
>>That was a week ago.  I'd like to get this equipment in the repair cycle
>>somewhere asap.

>Well, the PK-232 isn't very complicated. Why don't you just
>fix them yourself? As long as the ROMs are Ok, it's a straight
>forward job. If the ROMs are bad, you're hosed now that AEA is
>gone. What are the symptoms?

>Gary
>--
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>Destructive Testing Systems |    we break it.     | with previous uucp addres
ses
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When I worked at AEA it was rare for the roms to go TU.  The tech used to
replace about 5 chips generally and got about 98% on the PK-232s going.  That
is how they used to fix lightning damaged units for about $ 75.00 as generally
it was the same chips that were blown.  I am sorry I do not remember the actua
l
chips.  There many online who can lead you through the repair process of the
PK-232.  Might be a good time to sharpen up the skills in digital
troubleshooting.

Gary



From [e-mail] Tue Dec 03 19:25:51 1996
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From: "Jim Forrest" <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: Internet connection on a boat, worldwide?
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Sigvald:

     I am looking information on Nera's new MINI-M stabilized terminal.
When will it be available?  Will it support data?  Have you sent data using
this terminal?

        I need to transfer large binary files from a 55' sailboat in the South
Pacific.  Inmarsat A and B stabilized marine antennas are too large to fit
on board but I do have room for an Inmarsat M stabilized dome and certainly
for a mini-M dome.  The files are, on the average, 300,000 bytes and can
either be sent directly to a receiving PC or as attachments to e-mail
through someone like CompuServe.  I also need to access e-mail and dial
into Intuit using Quicken to pay bills but my major use will be the
transfer of data files.

        1)  Have you, or do you know of someone who has, transferred large data
files using an Inmarsat M or mini-M stabilized marine antenna?
        2)  What hardware and software was used?  i.e. what Nera equipment,
communication software, etc.
        3)  What  was the experienced actual baud rate for the transfer?
        4)  What is the best hardware and software to do this?
            5)  Is M or mini-M a better choice?

        My timeframe is this:  I need to know now if this is possible in order to
plan the next year.  I will be purchasing equipment and doing test
transmissions this spring.  Actual data transfers will begin in the summer
at which point I will be sending data 2-3 times a week.

        Please send me any information that will help me.

Thank you,

Jeanette Denby
[e-mail]



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From: [e-mail]
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Subject: Re: killing the internal speaker
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In Article<[e-mail]>, <[e-mail].e
du> writes:
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> From: [e-mail] (Cj N1WKO)
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> Subject: killing the internal speaker
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>
> I have a Yeasu FT-2500M working as my packet radio right now.  When I first
> hooked it up last May, I noticed that the radio will send the audio thorugh
the
> mic jack.  This is the way I had left it up till ths morning.
>
> I was doing some work on my power suply, and figured that I would add the mi
ni
> plug to go in back of the radio, and kill the internal speaker (thus not hav
ing
> to hear the noise of the packets).  All has gone well, except one thing, the
re
> is still audio coming from the speaker.  I thought if there was a plug in th
e
> jack, that was supposed to kill the speaker.  Am I wrong?  Is there somethin
g
> wrong with the radio?  I would snip the wires to the speaker, but once I get
> the outdoor anteana up, I am putting this radio back in the car.
>
> Any suggestions?
>
> -Cj
>
> --
> There is a theory that states, "If the answer to the question of life, the
> universe, and everything and the question itself were known simutaniously,
the
> universe would cease to exist as we know it.  There is another theory that
this
> has already happened. -Douglas Adams, "So Long, and Thanks For All the Fish"


Cj-

Check out the Hints and Kinks artical in the August 96 QST.
This might solve your problem with the audio still being
active on your radio!

John
KD6CLO/4




From [e-mail] Tue Dec 03 19:25:54 1996
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From: Thomas Brockdorf <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: killing the internal speaker
Date: 28 Nov 1996 15:55:11 GMT
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[e-mail] (Cj N1WKO) wrote:
>I have a Yeasu FT-2500M working as my packet radio right now.  When I first
>hooked it up last May, I noticed that the radio will send the audio thorugh t
he
>mic jack.  This is the way I had left it up till ths morning.
>
>I was doing some work on my power suply, and figured that I would add the min
i
>plug to go in back of the radio, and kill the internal speaker (thus not havi
ng
>to hear the noise of the packets).  All has gone well, except one thing, ther
e
>is still audio coming from the speaker.  I thought if there was a plug in the
>jack, that was supposed to kill the speaker.  Am I wrong?  Is there something
>wrong with the radio?  I would snip the wires to the speaker, but once I get
>the outdoor anteana up, I am putting this radio back in the car.
>
>Any suggestions?
>
>-Cj
>
>--
>There is a theory that states, "If the answer to the question of life, the
>universe, and everything and the question itself were known simutaniously, th
e
>universe would cease to exist as we know it.  There is another theory that th
is
>has already happened. -Douglas Adams, "So Long, and Thanks For All the Fish"


I have an FT 2500 that I use for packet.
With a jack plugged in the rear, the speaker is turned off.
The female part of the jack has a contact that opens up when you plug in the m
ale
end.
Perhaps you have an odd-ball male jack that is not quite the right size.
I have seen this happen on other headphone type jacks.
Thats about the only thing that I can think of that would cause this problem.

73 de Thomas AA9IS




From [e-mail] Tue Dec 03 19:25:56 1996
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In <57d239$2jt2$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] writes:
>Is anybody else using PaKet 6.1? I haven't seen any updates lately. I use it
in a
>WIN-OS2 session with OS/2 and it's pretty slick. It is spinning away in it's
own
>session as I'm on the 'net' and connected to another communications program
>concurrently. Anyway, if there is any new version or news, I'd like to hear a
bout
>it.
>
>                                                     Thanks - Jim WD9AHF

I am also using Paket 6.1 under OS/2, only in a DOS session window, while
typing this note dialed into my ISP over a phone line. Isn't TRUE multitasking
great?

No updates to Paket 6.1 that I am aware off.

I am thinking about switching my packet setup over to an APRS beacon -
digipeater though.


73
John

* John  KF4ERV  [e-mail]  Powered by OS/2 Warp.              *
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From [e-mail] Tue Dec 03 19:25:57 1996
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From [e-mail] Tue Dec 03 19:25:59 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Jose, Valencia)
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Hi, folks.  I am interested in AEA's email address. Please, would you reply
to me with such info..??

José.
---------------------------------------------
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From [e-mail] Tue Dec 03 19:26:00 1996
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From: Dan Dillon <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: killing the internal speaker
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Cj N1WKO wrote:
>
> I have a Yeasu FT-2500M working as my packet radio right now.  When I first
> hooked it up last May, I noticed that the radio will send the audio thorugh
the
> mic jack.  This is the way I had left it up till ths morning.
>
> I was doing some work on my power suply, and figured that I would add the mi
ni
> plug to go in back of the radio, and kill the internal speaker (thus not hav
ing
> to hear the noise of the packets).  All has gone well, except one thing, the
re
> is still audio coming from the speaker.  I thought if there was a plug in th
e
> jack, that was supposed to kill the speaker.  Am I wrong?  Is there somethin
g
> wrong with the radio?  I would snip the wires to the speaker, but once I get
> the outdoor anteana up, I am putting this radio back in the car.
>
> Any suggestions?
>
> -CjIf plugging in an external speaker does not kill the audio to the
internal speaker then you can fix that fairly easily.  I am surprised
that the INTERNAL speaker still is audible while the external speaker
is plugged in.  If it is NOT audible then you can pop a mini plug with
no speaker wired to it to kill the audio.

Otherwise, you can pop open the radio, replace the jack with the kind
of jack that makes a connection when there is no plug and breaks a
connection when there is a plug in it.  (these are so common that you
can find them at radio shack.)  What you want to do is put this jack
in the place of the existing jack, with the external speaker wired to
it just the same.  What you want to do different this time is to wire
the internal speaker so that it's circuit is cut off when you have a
plug put into your updated jack.  It should work great... Actually it
should work like Yaesuf should have designed it in the first case.

Dan
KD6FPX

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From [e-mail] Tue Dec 03 19:26:01 1996
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From: "Michel Stoop (PE1OZA)" <[e-mail]>
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Robert Barron wrote:

> Are there any Win95 drivers for using a standard TNC on a serial port
> with the native Win95 TCP/IP stack?  If not, what are the alternatives?

I have successfully run TCP/IP on Win95 with the use of Trumpet95 and
ethrax25/winpkt. I could run most Win95 apps like Netscape32 (3.0G).
I couldn't get it to work with the Win95 TCP/IP stack. I tried this
with a packet to ndis driver and told Win95 to use a real mode ndis
driver.

Fortunatly trumpet95 wouldn't work after 30 days...

73 Michel, PE1OZA


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I just recently re-connected my MFJ-1278 after 2 years of non-use.
I can't find the users manual, so it took me quite sometime to
get familar with the commands. But I can't activate the 'Automatic
Signal Analysis' function. Can someone refresh my memory?

Any help is greatly appreciated.

Jon C. n7wzg



From [e-mail] Tue Dec 03 19:26:03 1996
From: Clifford Buttschardt <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: Sound Blaster 16 Spectral display & Filtering FREEWARE
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I've had the very same difficulty for weeks!  Cliff K7RR

On Wed, 27 Nov 1996, Jay wrote:

> [e-mail] (Dave Rickmers) wrote:
>
> >[e-mail] (Tim Smith) wrote:
> >
> >
> >>Can you tell me what the s/w is called and where I could d/l it?
> >>
> >>> http://www.simtel.net/pub/simtelnet/msdos/hamradio/sbfft11.zip
> >>> ftp://ftp.simtel.net/pub/simtelnet/msdos/hamradio/sbfft11.zip   1032518
bytes
> >>>
> >>> sbfft11.zip     Sound Blaster spectral display and filtering
> >dr
> Is the software anywhere else on the net?? I can't connect to
> simtel.net for some reason. Netscape keeps giving me "no DNS entry"
>
> Thanks
> Jay
> [e-mail]
>
>



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From: [e-mail] (Joe D. Reed)
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"Jim Forrest" <[e-mail]> wrote:

>Sigvald:

>     I am looking information on Nera's new MINI-M stabilized terminal.
>When will it be available?  Will it support data?  Have you sent data using
>this terminal?

>       I need to transfer large binary files from a 55' sailboat in the South
>Pacific.  Inmarsat A and B stabilized marine antennas are too large to fit
>on board but I do have room for an Inmarsat M stabilized dome and certainly
>for a mini-M dome.  The files are, on the average, 300,000 bytes and can
>either be sent directly to a receiving PC or as attachments to e-mail
>through someone like CompuServe.  I also need to access e-mail and dial
>into Intuit using Quicken to pay bills but my major use will be the
>transfer of data files.

>       1)  Have you, or do you know of someone who has, transferred large data
>files using an Inmarsat M or mini-M stabilized marine antenna?
>       2)  What hardware and software was used?  i.e. what Nera equipment,
>communication software, etc.
>       3)  What  was the experienced actual baud rate for the transfer?
>       4)  What is the best hardware and software to do this?
>            5)  Is M or mini-M a better choice?

>       My timeframe is this:  I need to know now if this is possible in order to
>plan the next year.  I will be purchasing equipment and doing test
>transmissions this spring.  Actual data transfers will begin in the summer
>at which point I will be sending data 2-3 times a week.

>       Please send me any information that will help me.

>Thank you,

>Jeanette Denby
>[e-mail]

Have you checked out Marisat C?
Works great on data and antenna is small and fixed.
Maybe does not work in South Pacific?

Joe Reed



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In article <57h8eu$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Sigvald
Refsum) writes:

>Inmarsat D
>       Pager system

Sigvald, what kind of equipment does the pager system require?



Beth B.
Voyagers Mail Forwarding Service
Islamorada, Florida Keys


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From: "Eric A. Cottrell" <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: OS/2  AX.25 DRIVER ?
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Jens David DG1KJD wrote:
> I'd continue development on it if there was more interest in it.

I am interested.

73 Eric WB1HBU  [e-mail]
-- Posted using Netscape for OS/2 Beta 2 Yeah!!!!  ----


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From: Lee Eschen <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: Sound Blaster 16 Spectral display & Filtering FREEWARE
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Clifford Buttschardt wrote:
>
> I've had the very same difficulty for weeks!  Cliff K7RR
>
> On Wed, 27 Nov 1996, Jay wrote:
>
> > [e-mail] (Dave Rickmers) wrote:
> >
> > >[e-mail] (Tim Smith) wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >>Can you tell me what the s/w is called and where I could d/l it?
> > >>
> > >>> http://www.simtel.net/pub/simtelnet/msdos/hamradio/sbfft11.zip
> > >>> ftp://ftp.simtel.net/pub/simtelnet/msdos/hamradio/sbfft11.zip   103251
8 bytes
> > >>>
> > >>> sbfft11.zip     Sound Blaster spectral display and filtering
> > >dr
> > Is the software anywhere else on the net?? I can't connect to
> > simtel.net for some reason. Netscape keeps giving me "no DNS entry"
> >
> > Thanks
> > Jay
> > [e-mail]
> >
> >

I just got it using Netware 3.01 with no problems whatever. Try again!

-- N6AXB in Cave Junction, Orygon.
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From [e-mail] Tue Dec 03 19:26:08 1996
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From: Gary Tait <[e-mail]>
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Subject: TNC-2 Plans
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Does anybody know where I can find plans for a TNC-2 clone, based
on a Z80?

Any text files must be ASCII , and image files must be GIF or TIFF

I found one that the image files are PRN and PS files, which, do to my
system limitations, I can't view or print.

Gary Tait , VE3VBF
- Please do not quote US prices, they are no good to me ,here in Canada -



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From: [e-mail] (Pete)
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Hello all winhackers

I have started a Winpack FAQ Web page, hoping to answer MOST
questions!

I am seeking REAL LIFE experiences to add to the page, something that
you were given as a problem and were able to fix it.  I don't care
what it was, ANYTHING that you may think usefull that can help other
Hams.

If you have something interesting, please send it in the format:

Question: How do I get Winpack to change channels on my Television ?
Answer: Well you start by doing blah.. blah.... blah...

I think you get the picture !

Any information would be appreciated that could help those that are
having problems.  Also, if YOU have Winpack running with a Baycom
modem, you are going to be considered a GOD !!  Send the setup files
you are using and we'll verify they work !!!

Cheers..Pete..vk2yx
[e-mail]


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On 28 Nov 1996 21:35:15 GMT, [e-mail] <[e-mail]> wrote:
 : get familar with the commands. But I can't activate the 'Automatic
 : Signal Analysis' function. Can someone refresh my memory?

ASA

--
Howard Goldstein <[e-mail]>


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From: [e-mail] (Dan Correia)
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rderr <[e-mail]> wrote:

>[e-mail] wrote:
>>
>> In article <5738de$17ec$[e-mail]>, [e-mail]@smtp-news
2.ibm.net writes:
>> >In <[e-mail]>, Joe Giraudo <[e-mail]> writes:
>> >>R. A. Green wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> On 16 Nov 1996 07:03:33 GMT, [e-mail] (Rob Turner)
>> >>> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> >looking to get a Hand held Ham Radio.
>> >>> >If there is anyone selling or giveing one away please email me.
>> >>> >adam turner
>> >>> >[e-mail]
>> >>> >
>> >>> Hell, if there's anyone giving one away, email me too!
>> >>>
>> >>> --ronPosted in Rec.Amateur.Boatanchors?
>> >>
>> >>Tube type hand held?
>> >
>> >  Sure, those 90 volt B batterys are getting a little long in the tooth :-
(=)
>> >
>> >                                                                JimI imagi
ne that the A battery will also weigh a few pounds, perhaps the
>whole thing could be mounted on a kid's toy wagon as a mobile unit.


I'll take two!



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From: [e-mail] (Gary Coffman)
Subject: Re: Low Cost 1.2Ghz packet?
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
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In article <[e-mail]> Jan Marius Evang <[e-mail].n
o> writes:
>Hi, Dale
>  DH> Down East sells a model 1296-28 transverter. It has a 10 meter
>  DH> IF. It puts out 3 watts at 1296 mhz and is $550. This will
>  DH> interface to the WA4DSY 56k modem directly.
>
>This sounds *very* interresting.
>Have you got an estimate what the total cost would be for such an
>installation? We have a USCC4 card, and would need a WA4DSY modem and
>this transverter ($550). Would the modem interface to a common TNC?
>What kind of antenna should be used? Can we make one ourself?
>
>73 de LC1MAT Marius

Well, since I haven't seen a reply by Dale, I'll take a stab at
costing out a system. The modem is $349 from PacComm. The transverter
is $550 from Down East. The digital interface card, a PI-2, is $125
from the Ottawa Group (or you can buy the Gracilis card from PacComm,
or kludge your own 8530 card). The antenna can range from a simple
homemade corner reflector to a loop yagi, and cost would range from
around $5 to maybe $100. So that comes to $1124 for the whole package.
It's about $350 cheaper if you're putting it on 1.35m or 70cm because
of lower transverter cost, IE the used MMT432 transverters we've been
using on 70cm.

As a comparison, lets look at the cost of a 2m 1200 baud setup. The
radio will cost about $300, the TNC about $150, and the antenna can
again range up to $100. So we're looking at about $550, or roughly
half the cost of the 56 kb setup. But throughput is 47 times worse.
We can cut the cost by using a surplus commercial radio, IE Motorola
Mitrek, and a Baycom on the PC, but we can't boost the throughput.

As far as using a TNC with the 56 kb modem, it can be done. GRAPES
used to include instructions for modifying a TNC2 with the modem
kits (I don't know if PacComm includes the instructions with their
W&T units). You have to soup up the TNC with B level parts and
a faster clock, and you need a KISS56 ROM. That'll let it run
56 kb on the radio side, but it'll only do 19.2 kb on the computer
side. That's Ok on a busy channel, because packet is bursty, but
it really doesn't let you get the full benefit of the 56 kb modem.

PacComm has a TNC that they claim can keep up with the 56 kb modem.
I don't know if it will or not. I haven't tried one. The Kantronics
Data Engine can keep up with the 56 kb modem, but that's pretty
heavy overkill for a TNC. IMHO the digital interface card is the
way to go, and is certainly cheapest. If you have a Mac, however,
you can program the 8530 in its serial port to handle 56 kb, and
you don't need an interface at all. Most hams don't use Macs, so
that's rarely mentioned.

Gary
--
Gary Coffman KE4ZV          |    You make it,     | Due to provider problems
Destructive Testing Systems |    we break it.     | with previous uucp address
es
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From [e-mail] Tue Dec 03 19:26:13 1996
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From: "Hans" <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Morse training software
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Hi,
Does anyone know of any public domain CW training software that is possible
to configure for non-english characters (swedish)?

Best Regards,

Hans / SM0IMJ



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Subject: Re: Encryption of voice over amateur frequencies is Not legal
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On Mon, 25 Nov 1996 07:29:19 GMT, [e-mail] (Jamie) wrote:

>While it is illegal to encrypt anything over the Ham band...

From which section of Part-97 did you conclude this???

I haven't been able to find anything that specifies or implies that
encryption of voice or data is illegal.  The only reference I have
seen to encryption is 97.113-a4 Prohibited transmissions which states:

a.  No amateur station shall transmit:
     4.  ... messages in codes or ciphers intended to obscure the
meaning thereof, except as otherwise provided herein; ...

If one were to identify in the clear, switch to encryption, QSO,
switch to clear, identify in the clear I don't see how this would
violate FCC rules.  Keep in mind that encryption obscures the
information NOT the meaning of it.  Since one would not have done
anything to obscure the meaning of anything they transmitted how would
this be illegal?

I believe what the FCC had in mind was to prohibit the use of 10-codes
or "secret" codes.  If one was to say "the eagle has landed" yet no
eagle landed anywhere, but the phrase secretly meant something, then
it should be a prohibited transmission.  Obviously, the message was in
a code or cipher intended to obscure the meaning thereof.

My second argument is that if the FCC intended that there be no codes
or ciphers at all why go on to add "intended to obscure the meaning
thereof" when "messages in codes or ciphers" would cover everything?

Also, in section 97.309-b RTTY and data emission codes regarding
digital transmission:

   b.Where authorized by ºº97.305(c) and 97.307(f) of this Part, a
station may transmit a RTTY or data emission using an unspecified
digital code, except to a station in a country with which the United
States does not have an agreement permitting the code to be used.
RTTY and data emissions using unspecified digital codes must not be
transmitted for the purpose of obscuring the meaning of any
communication. When deemed necessary by an EIC to assure compliance
with the FCC Rules, a station must:

1.Cease the transmission using the unspecified digital code;
2.Restrict transmissions of any digital code to the extent instructed;

3.Maintain a record, convertible to the original information, of all
digital communications transmitted.

Have I missed anything?  What's the consensus out there?

Andrew
N2CBU


From [e-mail] Tue Dec 03 19:26:15 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Jeffrey Herman)
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Subject: Re: *** AEA DSP-232 only $ 379.00 ***
Date: 29 Nov 1996 20:07:13 GMT
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In article <[e-mail]>, Bob <chainsaw.at.tfs.net> wrote:
>Wouldn't it have been a little more fair of you to caveat your ad here
>with the note that they who buy AEA products now do so with little to
>no possibility of product support, since AEA is about to go belly up?
>Oh well, bidness is bidness!!!

Ah, "product support" - the cry of the appliance operator. Maybe you
should invest in a soldering gun and test equipment, Bob.

KH2PZ


From [e-mail] Tue Dec 03 19:26:16 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Gary Coffman)
Subject: Re: AEA Out Of Business!?
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail] (Gary Coffman)
Organization: Destructive Testing Systems
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In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail]
com.com writes:
>In Article<[e-mail]>, <[e-mail]> wri
tes:
>> In article <[e-mail]> rwhart@ix
.netcom.com writes:
>> >I don't give a damn how much they have invested in fixing the problems.
>> >I have already paid for a flawless product and I sure as hell don't like
>> >the idea of paying for it twice. So what's wrong with them posting the
>> >code so those of us who got burnt can get some relief?
>>
>> You thought you bought a *flawless* product? What world do you live
>> in? Certainly not the real one.
>
>I never buy anything unless I think it is flawless and meets
>my requirements. Hopefully we have not given up on the quest
>for a quality product or a dollar of value for a dollar spent.

Gee, you must be disappointed a lot. I've never seen a flawless
product, especially not one that contains software. They all have
bugs or other problems of design or execution. You look for the
best you can find, try to fix what you can, and learn to live with
the rest. You get lots fewer ulcers that way.

Only you can determine when you get a dollar of value for a dollar
spent, but with your expectations I doubt you are often satisfied.
Even if you added a couple more zeros to AEA's price, I expect there
would still be a bug or two lurking in there somewhere. Even billion
dollar spacecraft have defects. Any complex product does. The notion
of "zero defects" is absurd, as NASA discovered.

Gary
--
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es
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From [e-mail] Tue Dec 03 19:26:16 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Dayglo)
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Subject: AEA Fax III Decoder Programming
Date: 29 Nov 1996 20:20:09 GMT
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I would like to be able to code my own software for the AEA Fax III.  I was
wondering the following:

Did AEA or anyone else sell a set of libraries for the hardware?
Did AEA or anyone else sell programming documentation for the hardware?
Does anyone know the data's format?

Any help would be appreciated.  E-mail to [e-mail].



From [e-mail] Tue Dec 03 19:26:18 1996
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Lifted from the local paper without permission, and forwarded
without comment...

"The parents of 4-year-old Sarah Engstrand filed a US $1.2
million
lawsuit in New York City against the girls' grandparents because
the elder couple's Akita dog, Becky Bear, bit and deeply scarred

Sarah's nose and cheek during the girl's birthday party in 1994.
The grandparents are heartsick at being sued by their own son,
who not surprisingly is a lawyer, as is his wife."

A Redshirt in Rocklin

"HILLARY SHOT VINCE!!" - A Local Bumper Sticker
--





From [e-mail] Tue Dec 03 19:26:19 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Geoff Joy)
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Subject: Re: Encryption of voice over amateur frequencies is Not legal
Date: Fri, 29 Nov 1996 16:50:19 -0800
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On Fri, 29 Nov 1996 18:54:50 GMT, [e-mail] wrote:

>On Mon, 25 Nov 1996 07:29:19 GMT, [e-mail] (Jamie) wrote:
>
>>While it is illegal to encrypt anything over the Ham band...
>
>From which section of Part-97 did you conclude this???
>
>I haven't been able to find anything that specifies or implies that
>encryption of voice or data is illegal.  The only reference I have
>seen to encryption is 97.113-a4 Prohibited transmissions which states:
>
>a.  No amateur station shall transmit:
>     4.  ... messages in codes or ciphers intended to obscure the
>meaning thereof, except as otherwise provided herein; ...
>
[snip]

>Have I missed anything?  What's the consensus out there?
>
>Andrew
>N2CBU

Encryption=encipher  look it up.

A Code is a replacement system: ARCHON = I am fine, home soon.
10-4 = OK, Code 3 = With lights and siren, ARL 73 = Best regards,
Of these, the first is a private code, designed to obscure the
message.

A cipher is the replacement of one letter or symbol for another:

Guvf vf n EBG-13 Pvcure.

Modern cryptograhy depends on large primes and random numbers to
generate ciphers that are very difficult to break.  The output of a
good cipher appears to be random.  The "perfect" cipher is a one-time
pad generated from a good random number generator.

It is these kinds of "codes and ciphers" that FCC prohibits.

PGP and PGP Phone are designed to "obscure" the content of the message
and are prohibited under Part 97.




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From: [e-mail] (Joseph Carcia III)
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Subject: AEA out - New modem suggestion(s)
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Now that AEA is out of business, does anyone have any suggestions
about a good modem similiar to the DSP-2232?  Something to work the
satellites . . .

Thanks!

73,

Joe, NJ1Q

[e-mail]




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Subject: Re: AEA's email address
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> Hi, folks.  I am interested in AEA's email address. Please, would you reply
> to me with such info..??
>
> José.

Hi Jose,

AEA no longer has an email address that they are reading.  As they have let
people go as they get ready to go out of business they have lost the people
that were reading and replying to email.

Bill



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From: [e-mail] (Marty Albert)
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Subject: Re: Encryption of voice over amateur frequencies is Not legal
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On Fri, 29 Nov 1996 18:54:50 GMT, [e-mail] wrote:

>On Mon, 25 Nov 1996 07:29:19 GMT, [e-mail] (Jamie) wrote:
>
>>While it is illegal to encrypt anything over the Ham band...
>
>From which section of Part-97 did you conclude this???
>

 <snip>

>
>Have I missed anything?  What's the consensus out there?
>
>Andrew
>N2CBU


The purpose of the "...intended to obscure communications..." is to
allow the use of encryption of aux. station control signals.

This is also the statement that allows the use of data compression
systems on digtal data... The intent is to compress the data, not to
obscure the data's meaning.

Simply IDing in the clear does not allow you to encrypt anything sent
via Amateur radio. You must also make available the encryption system
being used so that anyone, including the FCC, can monitor the
information content.

Take Care & 73



Marty Albert - [e-mail]
Amateur Radio: KC6UFM@KC6UFM.#SEMO.MO.USA.NOAM

Heartland Internet Services

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unsub Ham-Digital



From [e-mail] Tue Dec 03 19:26:23 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Eric Bear Albrecht)
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Gary Coffman <[e-mail]> wrote:

> In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Dick Mock) writes:
> >
> >On Sat, 23 Nov 1996 Steve Stroh <[e-mail]> wrote:
> >>I can recommend Lyle Johnson WA7GXD's speech ...
...
> >>...Of the original
> >>purposes for the creation of the Amateur Radio Service, only advancement
> >>of the radio art is likely to remain relevant in the next few years.
...
> >....  e.g. We are losing our grip on being
> >"necessary" in emergency situations

Lemme tell you one thing from out here in the wild west -- we had one
hellacious fire six months ago, and all the king's horses and all the
king's men could not communicate with each other for the first day of
the week-long fight.  At all.  It was ham radio, and only ham radio,
that gave them any and all communications from one unit to another on
the first day.  And I think they are all well aware of it.  Over the
next couple of days the BLM, Forest Service, local FD's, state agencies,
National Guard, etc. etc. eventually got it together to talk to one
another, but still all week we tied loose ends together by way of the
*low usage* repeater that my club maintains, not because we use it,
we don't much, but because there's nothing else out there.

w5vzb
--
"I'm not a member of any organized political group --
 I'm a Democrat."          -- Will Rogers

Eric Bear Albrecht       [e-mail] / [e-mail]


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In article <01bbde38$321b37c0$[e-mail]>, "A Redshirt" <occ
[e-mail]> wrote:
>
>Lifted from the local paper without permission, and forwarded
>without comment...
>
>"The parents of 4-year-old Sarah Engstrand filed a US $1.2
>million
>lawsuit in New York City against the girls' grandparents because
>the elder couple's Akita dog, Becky Bear, bit and deeply scarred
>
>Sarah's nose and cheek during the girl's birthday party in 1994.
>The grandparents are heartsick at being sued by their own son,
>who not surprisingly is a lawyer, as is his wife."

I wonder if the family isn't in cahoots on this - Grandparents file
bankruptcy, Homeowner's insurance pays,  Everyone profits.
Get a few crapola TV show appearances & a book.
Grandparents now live high on the hog in retirement.
Children inherit estate.

So they say, well, let's at least get something positive out of
the bad situation, eh?

Probably how a lawyer's mind works.

[e-mail]

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In <01bbde38$321b37c0$[e-mail]>, "A Redshirt" <occupant@ps
yber.com> writes:
>
>Lifted from the local paper without permission, and forwarded
>without comment...
>
>"The parents of 4-year-old Sarah Engstrand filed a US $1.2
>million
>lawsuit in New York City against the girls' grandparents because
>the elder couple's Akita dog, Becky Bear, bit and deeply scarred
>
>Sarah's nose and cheek during the girl's birthday party in 1994.
>The grandparents are heartsick at being sued by their own son,
>who not surprisingly is a lawyer, as is his wife."
>
If I had to guess, based on no other information, I would guess that this is
a scheme to get around the inheritance tax, which will tax a bequest from
the grandparents to the kids or grandkids, at a confiscatory rate of 45% if th
ey
have a sizeable estate.

On the other hand, tort damages for physical injury are generally excluded fro
m
taxes.  Therefore, the unfortunate injury to the daughter may be a vehicle for
all concerned to avoid the inheritance tax.  (Or it may not be; I'm only
guessing).

Sounds like a clever scheme, by a clever lawyer.  The kind of lawyer people
pay good money for.

Roger J. Buffington
W6VZV
[e-mail]

USC Law School, Class of '97

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"I want to die peacefully, in my sleep, like my Grandfather."
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From: [e-mail]
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Subject: Re: Packet on low-frequencies possible?
Date: Sat, 30 Nov 1996 06:38:40 -0500
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Antwan wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> I was wondering if packet-radio can be used on 20/40/80 meter bands.
> Specifically I am interested in the maximum baudrate that can be used (1200-
56
> k) on these low frequencies. Anyone has an idea? Is there anything I can rea
d
> on this subject?
>
> Thanks in advance, Antwan Reijnen, [e-mail]
---
Packet is commonly used on these band, 300 baud is the maximum allowed
by the FCC for US hams.  There is a lot of bbs bulletin forwarding going
on in the HF bands, QSOs are frustrating due to slow speeds and packet
collisions causing numerous retries.
There are several books available through the ARRL on the subject,
mostly entry level.  The Radio Amateurs Handbook by the ARRL also covers
packet.  You probably have similar books by the Dutch equivilant of the
Amateur Radio Relay League.  Perhaps in the public library.
73 Gene WA4WBI


From [e-mail] Tue Dec 03 19:26:27 1996
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From: Bob Gebeaux <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: Need PK232 Amtor Help
Date: 30 Nov 1996 11:43:14 GMT
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sure... be glad to try.

I live in Quantico va. and also have the pk232mbx set up with my hf rig.

I work on saturday, but will be off sunday and a good part of next week.
try me at home on the phone. [phone]

regards bob
ka3ocs




From [e-mail] Tue Dec 03 19:26:28 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Antwan)
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Subject: Packet on low-frequencies possible?
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Hi all,

I was wondering if packet-radio can be used on 20/40/80 meter bands.
Specifically I am interested in the maximum baudrate that can be used (1200-56

k) on these low frequencies. Anyone has an idea? Is there anything I can read
on this subject?

Thanks in advance, Antwan Reijnen, [e-mail]



From [e-mail] Tue Dec 03 19:26:29 1996
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From: Steve Baer <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Pocket Packet  (Handheld) System For Sale
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Pocket Packet System For Sale consisting of :

o Paccomm Pico Packet [VERY small, but no internal battery] (1200bps
TNC-2 w/mailbox)
  {Cost : $130}
o Sharp Wizard OZ-9520 512k Organizer/ASCII Terminal Emulator {Cost :
$400}
  [40/80 column x 16 line scrolling display, fits in shirt pocket]
o Wizard Spreadsheet Software (on IC Card) ] {Cost : $30}
o Pre-made connectors for ICOM/Radio Shack HT's (used on IC-02AT) {Cost
: $10}
o Belkin RS-232C Cable For Wizard-->Pico Packet {Cost : $50}
o AC Adaptor, Multi-voltage, for Pico Packet {Cost : $10}
o "Battery swap" fairly new ICOM BP-7 w/external connector for Pico
Packet (you send      your BP-7 or equivalent to me as replacement)
o Batteries for Wizard
o Manuals + 90-day warantee

$450 plus shipping in U.S.
$50 extra for BP-7 battery if not replaced

I'll be in the SF Bay area for another week if you'd like to see this
unique setup, and after that back to Seattle. If you know much about
handheld computers/PDAs, only the $500 units have built in terminal
emulators for packet (Casio Cassiopeia 2MB @$499 or HP 200LX 1MB @499),
so this is a real bargain. I've got almost $680 into this system with
tax and it's less than a year old. Please e-mail directly to
[e-mail] for a prompt reply.

Steve Baer KC7FLP


From [e-mail] Tue Dec 03 19:26:30 1996
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I'm interested also.

Greetings, Aart!
[e-mail]
http://www.noord.bart.nl/~aartw
--
| Standard disclaimer: The views of this user are strictly his own.


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From: Steven Monsey <[e-mail]>
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Hi,

I'd like to write a Winpack server program. Does anyone have experiance
with doing this? I have some questions that I would like cleared up befor
I dig into it.

Steve N0FPF - Seattle


From [e-mail] Tue Dec 03 19:26:33 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Gary Coffman)
Subject: Re: Packet on low-frequencies possible?
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In article <57p4bi$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Antwan) writes:
>Hi all,
>
>I was wondering if packet-radio can be used on 20/40/80 meter bands.
>Specifically I am interested in the maximum baudrate that can be used (1200-5
6
>k) on these low frequencies. Anyone has an idea? Is there anything I can read

>on this subject?
>
>Thanks in advance, Antwan Reijnen, [e-mail]

Regulations vary in different countries. In the USA, we can use
packet on those bands, but only at 300 baud or less. We can use
1200 baud on 10 meters, up to 19.2 kb on 6m and 2m, up to 56 kb
on 1.33m and 70cm, and whatever will stay inside the band edges
above 70cm.

That's what the regulations say. Now what's practical is a different
matter. It is seldom *practical* to do even 300 baud on 80m. The
multipath fading is too severe. You really want to drop down to
about 50 baud symbols on 80m. On 40m and 20m, 300 baud will usually
work.

Note well, however, that baud is not necessarily the same thing
as bits per second. Baud is the symbol rate, but some modulations
we use assign more than one bit to a single symbol. This is called
symbol overloading, and can allow much higher data rates than simple
baud would indicate. Some more advanced digital codings also use
multiple carriers to effectively transmit symbols in parallel. This
also allows a reasonably high bps while still maintaining a low
baud.

Gary
--
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es
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There are only 3 laywer jokes...

all the rest are true stories!

On Tue, 26 Nov 1996 00:09:28 GMT, [e-mail] (CDN) wrote:

>[e-mail] (Anthony S. Pelliccio) wrote:
>
>
>>For some absolutely hysterical lawyer jokes surf on over to
>>http://cartalk.com and look for the picture of a shark with a tie on. Click
>>on it and be launched into a sampling of NOLO Press' favorite lawyer jokes.
>>
>>Tony
>
>
>Why is it that when you tell a 'joke' about an Irishman it is called
>tasteless; when you tell a joke about a black it is called racist, and
>when you tell a joke about a lawyer it is called funny?
>
>hmmmm
>
>cdn
>
>



From [e-mail] Tue Dec 03 19:26:36 1996
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From: Roger Barker <[e-mail]>
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In article <[e-mail]>, Steven Monsey
<[e-mail]> writes
>I'd like to write a Winpack server program. Does anyone have experiance
>with doing this? I have some questions that I would like cleared up befor
>I dig into it.

There's the source code for the REQFIL server on the distribution disk.
A lot of people never find it because it is in SERVERS.ZIP which isn't
installed on to your hard disk. It's in VB, but there is a long comment
in it that explains what a server needs to do, irrespective of what
language you use. Unzip SERVERS.ZIP then read the file REQFIL.FRM in a
text editor and search for "Sub ServerAction" - the comment comes right
after it.

A lot of people in the UK have written servers, also some in VK - so a
packet message to WINPAC @ WW should produce a good response. (I'm
amazed at just how many servers there are available).

Finally, if all else fails, there's always me!    :-)

--
Roger Barker, G4IDE  [e-mail]
Boston, UK           "Be tolerant of everything, except for intolerance!"


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> Clifford Buttschardt wrote:
> >
> > I've had the very same difficulty for weeks!  Cliff K7RR
> >
> > On Wed, 27 Nov 1996, Jay wrote:

                     snip

>
> I just got it using Netware 3.01 with no problems whatever. Try again!
>
> -- N6AXB in Cave Junction, Orygon.
> --------------------------------------------------------------------
> Lee, of the Independent Republic of Jefferson: ([e-mail])
>   We laugh at honor and are shocked to find traitors in our midst.
>                                           -C. S. Lewis
> --------------------------------------------------------------------


Hey Guys,

Why is this thread propigated to 29 different news groups?  That is a horrible

waste of spectrum.


Please Please dump all of the news groups from your replies except one.
alt.ham-radio.digital-voice seems like the right place to me.

Please let this message be the last one to all 29 news groups.

Bill



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In article <[e-mail]>,  <[e-mail]> wrote:
>There are only 3 laywer jokes...
>
>all the rest are true stories!

I can pretty much believe that. After reading those it makes me wish
I had a daughter so I could forbid her to marry a lawyer. :)

>>Why is it that when you tell a 'joke' about an Irishman it is called
>>tasteless; when you tell a joke about a black it is called racist, and
>>when you tell a joke about a lawyer it is called funny?

Even though you didn't post this, I missed the original response so here
goes:

The reason it's funny is because by and large most lawyers are lower
than slime.

Tony





From [e-mail] Tue Dec 03 19:26:39 1996
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From: Mike <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Two packet stations with Macintosh computers, etc.
Date: Sat, 30 Nov 1996 21:39:24 -0500
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There are two systems;  Both have Macintosh computers, a TNC, a
DC power supply and a two-meter FM radio.  Software and manuals are
included.

(1)  $455.00
Mac Plus 2 Meg memory and built-in 40 meg hard drive
with keyboard and mouse.
AEA PK-232 MBX TNC unit
KDK 2033 (25 watts) 2 meter FM tranceiver
Azden DC power supply
All cables for direct plug-in

(2)  $320.00
Mac Plus with 4 Meg of memory, with mouse and keyboard
MFJ 1270B TNC, with optional clock and memory
KDK 2016A 2-meter FM (15 watts??) tranceiver
EF Johnson DC power supply (Matches radio; makes a "base" for unit

The prices reflect US dollars, and do not include shipping.

-Mike S.
K0JTA
(Minnesota


From [e-mail] Tue Dec 03 19:26:41 1996
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From: todd daugherty <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: Encryption of voice over amateur frequencies is Not legal
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hello


     digital codes are legal over the amateur band. As written in
97.309(a) and 97.309(b) which refers to specified and unspecified coding.
 I'm experimenting in a special coding system called PCM (PULSE CODE
MODULATION) which sends the voice signal over the radio in a digital
code. other unspecified coding systems is Spread Spectrum. coding is
legal to a point and are limited to ceeeertain bands S.S. (70CM) PCM
(33CM and above except 1.2 and 10.0 GHZ) codes are legal as longer as not
to obscure the meaning but being used to facilitate communication.


todd n9ogl


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From: [e-mail](donald wesley phibbs)
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Does anyone know where to find Commodore c-64 software.?

I have the MFJ modem card, but cannot find the software needed.
Any information on where to locate this software will be appreciated.

Don(AD4QQ)