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From [e-mail] Mon Oct 07 20:34:21 1996
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From: Jerry <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Bearcat 210 question (add on board)
Date: Mon, 30 Sep 1996 21:00:08 -0700
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Matthew Kleinmann wrote:
  Also, the scanner has a
> search button on it, but I have yet to be able to get it to do
> anything.  Anybody know how that works or what she does?

To search between frequencies, you have to manually stop the scanner at a chan
nel, then enter the lower
frequency and press "Limit," then the upper frequency and "Limit" again. Press
 search and you should be able to
scan between the upper and lower limits you set.

Have no idea about the board you found, unfortunately.


From [e-mail] Mon Oct 07 20:34:22 1996
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From: Jerry <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Bearcat 210 question (add on board)
Date: Mon, 30 Sep 1996 21:03:08 -0700
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Matthew Kleinmann wrote:
>
>  Also, the scanner has a
> search button on it, but I have yet to be able to get it to do
> anything.  Anybody know how that works or what she does?  Many thanks in
> advance!

The search feature enables you to scan all the frequencies between upper and l
ower limits you determine.

To search, stop the scanner on a channel, then enter the lower frequency + "li
mit" and then the upper frequency
+ "limit." Then press "search" and you should be scanning all the freqs betwee
n.

You should note that this process erases the frequency stored on the channel y
ou stop at.


From [e-mail] Mon Oct 07 20:34:23 1996
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From: Jerry <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: radar detectors as scanners?
Date: Mon, 30 Sep 1996 21:05:48 -0700
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I have just noticed that a recent crop of radar detectors claim to alert
you ahead of time to possible dangers ahead, like trains, etc.

Do these radar detectors scan certain frequencies and then trigger an
alert when one of them is detected?

TNX in advance.


From [e-mail] Mon Oct 07 20:34:24 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Tomcat305)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Recording
Date: 1 Oct 1996 00:11:56 -0400
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Hi all!  I am recording from the BC9000XLT, but when I play it back, the
first portion of the transmittion is all garbled, and scrathcy, I am
rcording with Radio Shack's CTR-102, does anybody have any suggestions?


From [e-mail] Mon Oct 07 20:34:24 1996
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From: [e-mail] (x)
Newsgroups: alt.radio.scanner,rec.radio.scanner,alt.conspiracy,alt.sex.fetish.white-mommas
Subject: Re: Secret Service code names.
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Upon 1 OCT 96 03:32:32 GMT, [e-mail] You Said...:

->In a previous article, "Charlie Solomon" <[e-mail]>
wrote:
->->
->->> I spoke to a couple of Secret Service guys at a presidential
function
->->about
->->> ten days ago. Clinton's code name is, in fact, "Eagle."
->->
->->Those Secret Service guys!  Are we ever going to break their
codes, or what?
->
->It's true, they are a wacky bunch!

1986 During Reagans Term, he visited Miami,Florida. I saw a Secret
Service agent and started a conversation.."

I said, "So...What do they call Reagan's airplane in code?...."

Secret Service agent replied, "...Diaper One..."



From [e-mail] Mon Oct 07 20:34:25 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Si Ballenger)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Easley, SC: Help with strange Codes and Signals
Date: Tue, 01 Oct 1996 04:49:10 GMT
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[e-mail] (Porcine d'Lite) wrote:

>I would appreciate any help with the codes and signals that the
>Easley, SC PD uses. They must be different from what the Police Call
>describes because I heard one a couple of weeks ago that would have
>translated into "dead animal in the middle of the road in Room 110 at
>Days' Inn - Situation normal"

>Now I've slept at the Days' Inn in Easley and can testify that,
>although it's not the Ritz, the message as described would not be
>"normal".

>I don't think that they use any other standard 10-code system. If you
>can help with any Easley, Greenville, or Pickens County codes it would
>be greatly appreciated. Thanks.

Years ago (and maybe still) county and police codes were used. They were
setup some what particular to the countys. You may have heard code 45
(hazard removed) and thought it was 10-45 (animal carcass in __). Best
bet would be to check the local radio Shack stores and see if they had
current copys of the code list (EMTs had a different list too).  Si B.





From [e-mail] Mon Oct 07 20:34:26 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Ntjstsex)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Findlay,Ohio
Date: 1 Oct 1996 01:06:59 -0400
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Anyone in the Findlay Ohio area that can help me out with local
frequencies i would be much apreciated......Pretty new to this...Thanks
ahead for any advice.
Would like to talk to anyone that would be interested in helping out a new
kid on the block. E-mail me at   [e-mail]


From [e-mail] Mon Oct 07 20:34:28 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Bill Cheek)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Uniden SC-150 MODs??
Date: Tue, 01 Oct 1996 05:17:03 GMT
Organization: COMMtronics Engineering/World Scanner Report
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selah <[e-mail]> wrote:

>does anybody know where i can find MODs for the SC-150

What do you mean "find"?

Like in "written up in easy-to-follow instructions"?  You won't.  No
one has written anything for the "yellow banana".  There are dozens of
mods that CAN be done to it, but which have been written for other
scanners.

It would be up to you to research those and translate the ones that
interest you.  Forget cellular and memory mods, though.  Not possible.

Bill Cheek
Scannist Extraordinaire



From [e-mail] Mon Oct 07 20:34:28 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Luke Atmadic)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: LA & LAS VEGAS FREQS.
Date: Tue, 01 Oct 1996 05:25:31 GMT
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I'm going to be in the La and Las Vegas area next week. I'm wondering
if anyone has police , fire,ect. for these 2 cities.Also some Freqs.
for Hoover Dam Las Vegas casinos Nellis AFB, or anything else of
intrest in this area.

                        Thank You
                        George



From [e-mail] Mon Oct 07 20:34:29 1996
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From: [e-mail] (The Gimp)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: LA & LAS VEGAS FREQS.
Date: Tue, 01 Oct 1996 05:28:17 GMT
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I'm going to be in the La and Las Vegas area next week. I'm wondering
if anyone has police , fire,ect. for these 2 cities.Also some Freqs.
for Hoover Dam Las Vegas casinos Nellis AFB, or anything else of
intrest in this area.

                        Thank You
                        George



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From: [e-mail] (Beavis)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: LA & LAS VEGAS FREQS.
Date: Tue, 01 Oct 1996 05:32:04 GMT
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I'm going to be in the La and Las Vegas area next week. I'm wondering
if anyone has police , fire,ect. for these 2 cities.Also some Freqs.
for Hoover Dam Las Vegas casinos Nellis AFB, or anything else of
intrest in this area.

                        Thank You
                        George

     Please E-mail me back with any info you have.



From [e-mail] Mon Oct 07 20:34:31 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Beavis)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: LA & LAS VEGAS FREQS.
Date: Tue, 01 Oct 1996 05:33:12 GMT
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I'm going to be in the La and Las Vegas area next week. I'm wondering
if anyone has police , fire,ect. for these 2 cities.Also some Freqs.
for Hoover Dam Las Vegas casinos Nellis AFB, or anything else of
intrest in this area.

                        Thank You
                        George

     Please E-mail me back with any info you have.



From [e-mail] Mon Oct 07 20:34:31 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Beavis)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: LA & LAS VEGAS FREQS.
Date: Tue, 01 Oct 1996 05:33:44 GMT
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I'm going to be in the La and Las Vegas area next week. I'm wondering
if anyone has police , fire,ect. for these 2 cities.Also some Freqs.
for Hoover Dam Las Vegas casinos Nellis AFB, or anything else of
intrest in this area.

                        Thank You
                        George

     Please E-mail me back with any info you have.



From [e-mail] Mon Oct 07 20:34:32 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Mark Fellhauer)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: FS:  BC200XLT
Date: 30 Sep 1996 23:32:05 -0700
Organization: Primenet Services for the Internet
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Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
X-Posted-By: @206.165.21.82 (sparkfel)

For Sale:

One BC200XLT
Full 800 Mhz receive mod already done
New one amp hour battery pack insert from Yost
High performance aftermarket rubber duck antenna

All for $185 firm.  Price includes shipping anywhere in the contiguous
U.S.

Respond via private e-mail

Mark Fellhauer
[e-mail]


From [e-mail] Mon Oct 07 20:34:33 1996
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From: Dan <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: alt.radio.scanner,rec.radio.scanner,rec.radio.swap
Subject: Trade HD for scanner
Date: Mon, 30 Sep 1996 23:35:00 -0700
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I have a Conner Hard drive Model CFS210A (210 MB)

I am looking for a trade on scanner, small 10 meter amp, Black and White
video camera (security) or maybe a ssb CB .

Let me know what you have to trade.


From [e-mail] Mon Oct 07 20:34:34 1996
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From: "Robert H. Eisner" <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: LA & LAS VEGAS FREQS.
Date: Tue, 01 Oct 1996 06:36:18 +0000
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To: Beavis <[e-mail]>

Beavis wrote:
>
> I'm going to be in the La and Las Vegas area next week. I'm wondering
> if anyone has police , fire,ect. for these 2 cities.Also some Freqs.
> for Hoover Dam Las Vegas casinos Nellis AFB, or anything else of
> intrest in this area.
>
>                         Thank You
>                         George
>
>      Please E-mail me back with any info you have.

Hi George,

Check out the following URLs for Las Vegas:

 http://www.skylink.net/~pay/scanner.html
 http://exo.com/~fricke/vegasradio.html
 http://www.ufomind.com/area51/orgs/janet/lv_air_freqs.html
 http://members.aol.com/j4dice/frequencies/travel/lasvegas.html

Bob


From [e-mail] Mon Oct 07 20:34:34 1996
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From: "Robert H. Eisner" <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: LA & LAS VEGAS FREQS.
Date: Tue, 01 Oct 1996 06:44:33 +0000
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To: Beavis <[e-mail]>

Beavis wrote:
>
> I'm going to be in the La and Las Vegas area next week. I'm wondering
> if anyone has police , fire,ect. for these 2 cities.Also some Freqs.
> for Hoover Dam Las Vegas casinos Nellis AFB, or anything else of
> intrest in this area.
>
>                         Thank You
>                         George
>
>      Please E-mail me back with any info you have.

Check out the following URLs for LA:

 http://home.earthlink.net/~stevewb/scanfreq.html
 http://www.ci.la.ca.us/dept/LAFD/freqncy.htm

Bob


From [e-mail] Mon Oct 07 20:34:35 1996
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From: Dan <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: radar detectors as scanners?
Date: Tue, 01 Oct 1996 00:28:13 -0700
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To: Jerry <[e-mail]>

Jerry wrote:
>
> I have just noticed that a recent crop of radar detectors claim to alert
> you ahead of time to possible dangers ahead, like trains, etc.
>
> Do these radar detectors scan certain frequencies and then trigger an
> alert when one of them is detected?
>
> TNX in advance.



Yes

they will be in every new car by 1999
Its a warning devise to alert motorist when a ambulance or emergency
vehicals are within a half mile or so. I saw it on Beyond 2000 on the
Discovery channel


From [e-mail] Mon Oct 07 20:34:36 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Kevin & Beth)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Pro-51 scanner
Date: Tue, 01 Oct 1996 06:36:18 -0500
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>I have a Radio Shack Pro-51 scanner. Does anybody know if there is any
>way to get it to scan other bands that it can't now receive? Any mods
>for this unit??
>

Go to my homepage and follow the links to the first scanner page, you will
thn see the mod as a link...

--
I want my Cable TV.......and CMT too....

Check out our home page @   http://www.intersurf.com/~kleger


From [e-mail] Mon Oct 07 20:34:37 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Gary Coffman)
Subject: Re: hamradio-online.com EXCLUSIVE: WA State Eases Proposed Radio Restrictions
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In article <01bbaf0d$c7953260$[e-mail]> "nrhblack" <nrhblac
[e-mail]> writes:
>Ham radio is authorized by Federal Law which overrides State law.  Ham
>radio installations do not need to be certified.
>
>Henry Black P.E.  KK6JR, G4NOC

Irrelevant. State law controls what equipment you may or may not
have in a vehicle.

And BTW, I've edited the newsgroups line to remove the *repeated*
listing of rec.radio.amateur.misc which causes multiple occurances
of these postings. When are you going to get that right when you
generate these spams, Ed?

Gary
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Gary Coffman KE4ZV          |    You make it,     | Due to provider problems
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es
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From [e-mail] Mon Oct 07 20:34:38 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Jeff Pleines)
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Subject: AOR AR-8000 SOLD
Date: 1 Oct 1996 16:05:01 GMT
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THANKS ALL FOR RESPONDING TO MY POST FOR THE AR-8000 + ACCESSORIES.
I've just sold the package, so I wanted to let everyone know its
no longer available.



Regards,

Jeff


From [e-mail] Mon Oct 07 20:34:39 1996
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From: Ronald Coursey <[e-mail]>
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Subject: New Radio Shack Pro-2006 Scanners For Sale
Date: Tue, 01 Oct 1996 09:06:07 -0700
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Brand New in sealed factory Box
$350
These are new with late ser# and date codes
30 day money back satisfaction - 90 day warranty
-----------------------------------------------------
Factory Refurb
$300
These where serviced by the Fort Worth center and checked here
with an IFR-1500 service monitor to spec or better!
All radios are mint to near mint with new box/manual/antenna
30 day money back satisfaction - 30 day warranty
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Or a Linked Repeater 1282.750


From [e-mail] Mon Oct 07 20:34:39 1996
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From: [e-mail] (BILL WATTS)
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Subject: Re: CB linear amps 4 Sale
Date: Tue, 01 Oct 96 09:28:00 -0800
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-=> Quoting Harold Swanson to All <=-

 HS> It would be nice if this thread would stop it is geting repeatative
 HS> and  anoyying to everyone, and if you want to continue it use email! :|

Yassuh, Boss. We be doin' what you be axin', sho' 'nuff. :*O


... Bill Watts  ex-Cape Codder  [e-mail]



From [e-mail] Mon Oct 07 20:34:40 1996
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From: John Mackey KA0SSF <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: RG-223/U COAX
Date: Tue, 01 Oct 1996 10:52:09 -0700
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[e-mail] wrote:

> Fred W. Brockway ([e-mail]) wrote:
> : Bought a small spool of cable this weekend.  Markings are SURPRENANT
> : SURCO RG-223/U.  About the size of RG-58.  What is it?


> It's 50 ohm coax, similar to RG-58 but double-shielded. RG-223 is very good
> cable for jumpers in base stations etc. where a small, well shielded cable
> is needed.       Brian Reed, KJ7JS


What the hell are you talking about?  According to BILL CHEEK,
nothing is as good as rg-59 regardless of wether it is 50 or
75 ohm & regardless of the application.



From [e-mail] Mon Oct 07 20:34:41 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Time Dog)
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Subject: Mods and Help on PRO 2006
Date: Tue, 01 Oct 1996 20:10:14 GMT
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Hello all...

        I have just picked up a PRO 2006 in a pawn shop for 125.00 it
has the Cell Mod and both a Signal Meter and an SWR Meter, I would
like to have a list of the things that can be done with this scanner,
so I can check what has been done inside, it seems to have a couple of
extra mini jacks on the back (don't know what they are for).  So if
someone could send me the mods and how they are done, I can go inside
and trace it out to see what they have done.  Scanner works great and
I know it was a steal at that price. Hell it even had a light
installed over the keypad for viewing the keys in the dark.  Also was
wondering if anyone knows what the government is keeping from us as
the latest beyond police call says that the government says that
824-849 and 869-894 (cell phone) be locked out was wondering what the
824-849 was for?


     _,,/|   Time Dog...   Email at ( [e-mail] )
     \o.O'
    =_~_='  _.-~`~-._.-~`~-._JuSt aBeRrAtEd_.-~`~-._.-~`~-._


From [e-mail] Mon Oct 07 20:34:43 1996
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give it up wiil you!


From [e-mail] Mon Oct 07 20:34:44 1996
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From: Rick Cooper <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: Mods and Help on PRO 2006
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I suggest you get the Bill Cheek books.  As far as the 824-849 mhz
frequencies, these are the mobile- or portable-to-cell site frequencies.
 In other words, the input frequencies to the cell site.



From [e-mail] Mon Oct 07 20:34:45 1996
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Any mods for the 2042 would be appreciated.

Thanks

[e-mail]



From [e-mail] Mon Oct 07 20:34:46 1996
From: [e-mail] (James Collins)
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I'm looking for ANY pro 24 mods that are known.   Can U Help me?


Thanks,                 James


From [e-mail] Mon Oct 07 20:34:47 1996
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From: Bob Schwerdtman <[e-mail]>
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Michael Alexander wrote:
>
> In article <324f5d33.17754872@192.188.72.23>, [e-mail] wrote:
>
> > [e-mail] (DHickey389) wrote:
> >
> > >Can anyone advise me on the choice of an outside antenna.  I  have
> > >narrowed it down to a D130j discone or an Scantenna from Antennacraft.  I
> > >live in northwest suburban Chicago, have a pro 2004 and enjoy scaning air
,
> > >public safety and ham frequencies.  I'm mainly concerned about inter-mod
> > >from adjacent channels.  Thanks in advance for your help.
> >
> > The Scantenna will tend to be "peaky" across its bandwidth, meaning it
> > will have some gain here and there in its performance band.  It will
> > have zero or even negative gain in other portions of its bandwidth.
> >
> > A discone is relatively flat at 0-dBi gain across several octaves of
> > its bandwidth.
> >
> > Six of one and a half-dozen of the other, but if your interests are
> > many and varied, then I'd go with the discone.  If your interests are
> > strictly confined to the areas you mentioned above, then then
> > Scantenna might be the better choice.  Neither one will bestow any
> > great blessings upon your head and shoulders, but no evils, either.
> >
> Wouldn't you want an antenna to have gain? This is a subject that has come
> up a number of times and the consensus seemed to be that an antenna with
> gain was preferable to one without (assuming that your sole purpose was to
> receive and not transmit). I finally settled on the Scantenna, although I
> started out looking to buy a discone, after talking to the folks at Grove.
> For what it's worth, the Scantenna works well and you can't beat the
> price--about $40 compared to $60-plus for a discone like the one Radio
> Shack sells.
>
> --
> Michael Alexander
> [e-mail] could also check out the channelmaster antenna from Amat
eur
Electronic supply $39.95 with 50 feet of co-ax They are at
http://www.aesham.com or 800-558-0411


From [e-mail] Mon Oct 07 20:34:48 1996
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From: Jeff <[e-mail]>
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Subject: LAFD Radio Codes
Date: Tue, 01 Oct 1996 18:57:51 -0700
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Does anyone know the LAFD radio codes, and unit identifications?
I already have the scanner freq. so please don't send those.

E-Mail response please

Thanks All!


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From: [e-mail] (Bill Nelson)
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Subject: Re: CB linear amps 4 Sale - Hypocrites
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Bill Cheek ([e-mail]) wrote:
: "Glenn Hansen" <[e-mail]> wrote:

: >The ban is on the sale not the possession of these 'special' radios.

: Sale, yes.  But also importation, too.  Otherwise, imported goods must
: be matched by invoices or bills of lading that show the imported
: contraband is for subsequent export.

Import for sale, yes. As far as I know, there is no ban on import for
private use.

Bill


From [e-mail] Mon Oct 07 20:34:49 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Bill Nelson)
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Steve Work ([e-mail]) wrote:
: Craig ([e-mail]) wrote:
: : I just got mine today.  Brand spanking new in the box.

: : I put it on my Visa, so there was no risk and I'm very happy with
: : what I got.  Just called to order 2 more.  Hard to beat the 2006
: : for ease of use.

: They aren't going to last very long, are they?

Who knows?  I bought two that were "like new" for $200 each, but it took
me a while to find them.

As more and more cellular sites go to digital service, I expect there will
be many such radios for sale rather cheaply.

Bill


From [e-mail] Mon Oct 07 20:34:53 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Glen Quarnstrom)
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Subject: Re: Bill Cheek is an IDIOT was:Re: RG 59\U
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John Mackey KA0SSF <[e-mail]> wrote:

>Bill Cheek wrote:

>> Like I said, RG-8, RG-8x, RG-59, RG-6, Belden 8214 and 9913 and many
>> other cables are well known to last 20-years or longer.  The only
>> conclusion is that your ham club and mentors have misindoctrinated
>> you............

>NOT if they are exposed to sunlight, about 6 years is all they can
>take.

I've had some of my cables up for nearly 20 years, and they still work
fine.  Oh, they probably don't work quite as well as they did when
they were new, but any degradation isn't obviously evident.

Of course, I'm only a ham, so what do I know?

>> The performance variables of a coaxial cable include the resistance
>> and inductance of the center conductor and shield; the parameters of
>> the dielectric insulation between the center conductor and shield; the
>> percent coverage of the shield; the diameter of the center conductor;
>> the inner diameter of the shield; the composition of the shield and
>> center conductor; and of course, the length of the cable.

>YES, & it is the insulation for the center that becomes violated
>when exposed to sunlight.

So how does the sunlight get to the dielectric in order to violate it?

--
[e-mail]



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What I don't understand is what ancient Greek philosopers have
to do with this thread.

JWM


From [e-mail] Mon Oct 07 20:34:54 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Bob)
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Subject: Re: PRO 2021 800MHz MOD - HELP!
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>Now this is 8 year old information, but it turns out they must have
>received psuedo signals or lied about it, because the PRO-2021 is
>totally incapable of receiving 800 MHz.
>


That would make some sense, because I pick up a lot of cell phones in
the 400 MHz range, so the pseudo-signal theory sounds fair.

It probably doesn't work then, but I find it odd that Grove Radio
advertises that they will perform the mod for $40.



From [e-mail] Mon Oct 07 20:34:56 1996
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I NEED THE MOD. TO RECEIVE CELL. FREQ. BC80.


From [e-mail] Mon Oct 07 20:34:57 1996
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McInnis wrote:
>
> In article <[e-mail]>, Old Sarge <old.sarge@worldnet.a
tt.net> writes:
> >...
> >
> > Before people start jumping on what's illegal or not, look at your
> > scanner radio and see if it's able to monitor cell phone frequencies.
> > If it can, YOU are also illegal.  So leave it alone unless it personally
> > bothers you or interferes with your quality of life, if you have a life
> > at all.
> > --
> > *********************************************************
> > Rich Greene E-7 USA Ret - http://www.wolfenet.com/~rich
> > Mailhandler, USPS Seattle - [e-mail]
> > *********************************************************
>
> Wrong.  It's not usually illegal to own a scanner capable of receiving
> cell phone calls as long as it was made before the ban took effect.  It
> IS illegal in general to listen to cell phone calls no matter if the
> scanner is legal or not.  It is illegal in general to manufacture new
> scanners capable of receiving cell phone frequencies.
>
> --
> Mickey McInnis - [e-mail]
> --
> All opinions expressed are my own opinions, not my company's opinions.



Then why do most new 800 Mhz scanners pick up cell phones by "immaging"?
Answer that one Micky Mouse!

There are more 11 meter amps out than there are ham operators out
there.....thats the facts. Control of the CB band is to far gone....only
those 2000 watt stations who interfear with other things are at risk.
face reality!


From [e-mail] Mon Oct 07 20:34:58 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Dionysios Vlachiotis)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: R7000 squelch detect
Date: Wed, 02 Oct 1996 07:57:15 GMT
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Hello everybody

I am seraching how to obtain from the ICOM R7000 the squelsh status
signal for use to my  optolinx interface !!!!
Please respond to [e-mail]

Thanks in advance and 73 de SV8RV



From [e-mail] Mon Oct 07 20:34:59 1996
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From: [e-mail] (T800Radio)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Look! 800Mhz GE Trunk Radio System.
Date: 2 Oct 1996 05:10:13 -0400
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Forwarded for SMD International, London. UK.
=================================
Please "ONLY" REPLY TO EMAIL ADDRESS BELOW.
=========================================

           *Posted from UK Company for hobyists in the USA*

              "All enquiries for more information will
               be kept in strictest confidence possible"

             "Remember your details are secure in the UK"

      "This mail has been posted for informational purposes only"

To those of you in the USA that may be interested in monitoring and
more on the High Security GE / Ericsson 800Mhz Trunk System and / or
programming EDACS MPA and MPD Radios (and others) for the GE /
Ericsson 800Mhz Trunk System. i.e Being able to use a compatible Radio
as if it were part of the high security Trunk System (follow all
communications etc.).

For more detailed information and equipment supplies, please send Private
Email to [e-mail]

Regards, Mike Jones
Super Micro Devices (SMD). London. UK.


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From: [e-mail] (Greg LaP.)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: CDN Military Freq.???
Date: Wed, 02 Oct 1996 13:39:55 GMT
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Does any one have a list of Cdn Military freqs. which have been left
off the DOC freq. lists?????

                Greg
                [e-mail]




From [e-mail] Mon Oct 07 20:35:01 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Greg LaP.)
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Subject: FS:Crystals
Date: Wed, 02 Oct 1996 13:41:42 GMT
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 I have these crystals (for Realistic scanners) for sale:

                                        154.620 Mhz   QTY OF 9
                                        154.710 Mhz                 8
                                        167.730     "                 10
                                        169.465      "             6
                                        162.850      "                 3

        $ 5.00 cdn ea. or 3 for $10.00 cdn

                                Thanks,
                                Greg
                                [e-mail]




From [e-mail] Mon Oct 07 20:35:02 1996
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From: [e-mail]
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Subject: Re: RG-223/U COAX
Date: Wed, 02 Oct 1996 08:11:30 -0700
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John Mackey KA0SSF wrote:
>
> [e-mail] wrote:
>
> > Fred W. Brockway ([e-mail]) wrote:
> > : Bought a small spool of cable this weekend.  Markings are SURPRENANT
> > : SURCO RG-223/U.  About the size of RG-58.  What is it?
>
>
> > It's 50 ohm coax, similar to RG-58 but double-shielded. RG-223 is very goo
d
> > cable for jumpers in base stations etc. where a small, well shielded cable
> > is needed.       Brian Reed, KJ7JS
>
> What the hell are you talking about?  According to BILL CHEEK,
> nothing is as good as rg-59 regardless of wether it is 50 or
> 75 ohm & regardless of the application.

Damn John,  You must be the most anal person I have ever ran across.

Every chance to mention Bill in a post you do it.  What is your
problem?  Bill, posted a challenge to get rid of the name calling
and down to real technical talk, and you still end up name calling
and prodding.  Get real.


From [e-mail] Mon Oct 07 20:35:06 1996
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From: Gerry Moersdorf <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc,rec.radio.shortwave,rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Software decoding of FSK modulated signal
Date: Wed, 02 Oct 1996 12:10:28 -0400
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Peter Onion wrote:
>
> Daniel Ayers ([e-mail]) wrote:
> : Hello Everyone,
> :
> : I am developing a program to decode FSK modulated signals using a
> : SoundBlaster soundcard.  The plan is to digitize the signal from the
> : radio's audio output and then analyse it in software to produce binary
> : data for further analysis.
> [SNIP]:
        Hey this is a great idea, the entire world has a soundcard.  im tired
of the "box clutter" in my swl site and would love to trash the decoder
de' jour from aea.  while ur writing the software,, make it for swl'ers
,, that is a dx'er's interface not a ham interface.  so it needs hf /
vhf frequency storage with point and click interface on win 95,, use win
95 soundblaster drivers, support all modes with one program and
selectable interface including cw / fax / amtor / baudo, etc.  have a
"signal acquisition mode" like AEA that's actually worth a shit.
automatic controls on freq shifts baudrate and bit inversion.  automatic
audio level controls via stock soundblaster interface.  hey,, u want my
$100 bucks up front?

--
Gerry Moersdorf, President/CEO
                 Applied Innovation INC
                 5800 Innovation Dr, Dublin OH 800-247-9482



From [e-mail] Mon Oct 07 20:35:07 1996
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From: [e-mail] (BILL WATTS)
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Subject: Re: Credentials
Date: Wed, 02 Oct 96 11:59:00 -0800
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-=> Quoting Bud Jamison to All <=-


 BJ> John, SHUT the fuck up.  No one CARES about your vendetta against
 BJ> Bill.

I second the motion.




From [e-mail] Mon Oct 07 20:35:08 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Marc Chabot)
Date: 02 Oct 96 23:00:00
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Subject: BILL THE SCAPEGOAT
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Hello Douglas


>From: "douglas dumire" <[e-mail]>
>Is there something behind the name Bill that makes people want to
>bad talk them???

That depends of the personnal psychology of each assaliant,
although they all seem to be somehow jealous...  and there isn't
THAT much to be jealous about the ol'man Cheek.  Yet, many bozos
vomitted on him, for now it's John MacKeyMouse KA0SSF and in a
few months it's gonna be someone else.  It will never ends.  Each
time a new MickeyMouse pops up to urinate on him.  As sure as
the sun raises again each day!

Just look at Bob Parnass, he only posts his "articles", it seems
to be a good way to "duck".

In some circumstances it can be funny to see Bill Cheek
keyboard-wrestle.


>Or is it that some people are envious of Bill Cheek or Bill Gates
>for there ideas and success.             ---- -----    ==== =====

Oh boy, the only thing they have in common is the first name;
just look a their respective wallet and the galactic wedge
appears!  =:)


        M.C.
---
 * SPEED 2.00 #2668 *
--
Internet: [e-mail]
Standard disclaimer: The views of this user are strictly his own.
This message was sent through the STAT! Medical <--> Internet Gateway
For more information email <[e-mail]>


From [e-mail] Mon Oct 07 20:35:09 1996
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From: "Dale R. Parfitt" <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: MOD. FOR BC80.
Date: Wed, 02 Oct 1996 20:44:23 -0400
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To: Keith Braithwaite <[e-mail]>

Keith Braithwaite wrote:
>
> I NEED THE MOD. TO RECEIVE CELL. FREQ. BC80.

Hi Keith,

It depends on what freqs your talking about. he vast majority of
intermod is caused by pager transmitters. This is due to at least 3
reasons:
1. Hi ERP- 250W is a minimum.
2. High duty cycle- almost always on the air.
3. The spectral allotment they re assigned to. At VHF and UHF there are
2 sets of primary frequencies. True 3rd (and higher) order intermod
needs these 3 requirements to become rampant.

Now at VHF and UHF the pager freqs are prety well built out. But 900 MHz
is expanding rapidly. So if you're seeing worse 900 MHz intermod, yes it
can and will get worse.
Our company manufactures a patented intermod filter models for vhf AND
uhf. These were reviewed about 6 months ago in US Scanner News.

Short of a filter you might try an adjustable attenuator or a
directional antenna.

Hope this helps.

Dale WA2YPY


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From: [e-mail] (Meliss6789)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Don Bruder: Afraid of Women?
Date: 2 Oct 1996 21:38:26 -0400
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  Yep!


From [e-mail] Mon Oct 07 20:35:10 1996
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Radio Shack's 1997 Catalog Policy
From: [e-mail] (Ima P. Ness)
Organization: U.S. Natural Gas
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In article <51fk58$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] says...
->
->Actually, Radio Shack isn't being silly about the catalog issue, the
->customers are!  And, if you don't like being asked your name and address
->OR paying 2.95 for a catalog, then shop somewhere else ! ! !

Brilliant attitude.  You can ask away, and as long as I am paying cash,
you can kiss my ass.  Any you dear dipshit droid type dumb ass, can keep your
2.95 catalog for emergency T.P.

love to all

Ima




From [e-mail] Mon Oct 07 20:35:12 1996
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Subject: Re: Radio Shack's 1997 Catalog Policy
From: [e-mail] (Ima P. Ness)
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In article <51fk5b$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] says...
->
->Bitching to the employee about a lousy 2.95 catalog.  That doesn't
->accomplish a thing!

Makes me feel better.  The reason Radio Shaft can't afford to give away a
2.95 catalog, is because that would represent 2 hours of droid pay.

Ima



From [e-mail] Mon Oct 07 20:35:13 1996
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Radio Shack's 1997 Catalog Policy
From: [e-mail] (Ima P. Ness)
Organization: U.S. Natural Gas
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In article <51fk5h$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] says...
->
->Way to go ! ! !  I worked at Radio Shack for almost 3 years and for the
->most time really enjoyed it.  "Most" of the customers were very nice, but
->then again, you've got the people that just won't be happy unless they
->give you a hard time.  My manager has been with the company for over 15
->years and to this day, I can't see how he's lasted this long.  Why do
->people continue to go back to Radio Shack if they have so many gripes and
->complaints against them!
->
->Glade to see more POSITIVE Radio Shack input here !


Your manager has been with Radio Shaft, due to his inability to do anything el
se.

If you ever find out any other reason for him staying that long, please let us
 all know.

People go back to Radio Shaft, cause they happen to have that 1.4K ohm resiste
r
that Safeway, just happened to run out of.  Either that or Barnum was right..

I find the only POSITIVE comments about the shaft come from droids or silly
confused managers.

Ima



From [e-mail] Mon Oct 07 20:35:14 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Robert E. Edmunds)
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Subject: Re: AMERICAN DOLLARS
Date: 3 Oct 1996 02:43:40 GMT
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Garry Hobart ([e-mail]) writes:
> On Sun, 29 Sep 1996 08:55:57 GMT, [e-mail] (Watcher5)
> wrote:
>
>>Help overturn the illegal Helms-Burton law.  Support the Florida ban!
>
> Until you earn your own freedom, I would refrain form telling others
> how to use theirs.
>
     ? ? ? -  Would you like to EXPLAIN this little remark please.....






> Garry
> ----------------------------------------------
> Principles aren't of much account anyway, except at election time.
> After that you hang them up to let them season.
> Mark Twain (1835-1910)


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From [e-mail] Mon Oct 07 20:35:15 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Robert E. Edmunds)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: AMERICAN DOLLARS..TROLL...TROLL
Date: 3 Oct 1996 02:47:27 GMT
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"kevin courtney" ([e-mail]) writes:
> give it up wiil you!

   No, I'm sorry, we wooon't.  It has been shown that this newsgroup
almost NEVER sticks to the hobby of scanning, so there's no reason to give
it up.


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From [e-mail] Mon Oct 07 20:35:15 1996
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From: [e-mail] (GDI)
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Subject: Merci
Date: Thu, 03 Oct 1996 02:49:16 GMT
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What are the frequencies for Merci (Medical) in the Chicago Area?
Also any hostpitals in the North-West suburbs of Chicago.. Thanks



From [e-mail] Mon Oct 07 20:35:18 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Robert E. Edmunds)
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Subject: Re: US vs. CAN (was AMERICAN DOLLARS)
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Dungeon Master () writes:
> On Wed, 02 Oct 1996 15:53:31 -0400, Porchnoy <[e-mail]>
> wrote:
>
>>Watcher5 wrote:>
>>> Ask the U.N. which country is better to live in.  They'll live you
>>> right away.  Canada.
>>      "They'll live you right away?"
>>      What, no schools in Canada?
> Would you guys please keep on the subject of scanners.
> I'me sure there is a newsgroup out there where you can  talk about
> which country is better to live in.
>
> Dungeon Master.

    Yes, and I'm sure there is a newsgroup out there where certain other
people on this newsgroup can argue who's dick is bigger, but THEY insist
on trying to prove it here, so butt out!


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From [e-mail] Mon Oct 07 20:35:19 1996
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From: [e-mail] (lmck)
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Subject: RS 2011 Mods?
Date: 3 Oct 1996 03:38:28 GMT
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Many years ago my wife bought me a Radio Shack 2011 as a present.  I
have used it intermittently, as several other scanners and radios have
appeared over the years.  I got to wondering, "Are there any useful
mods floating around for this older, low-buck scanner?"

Any help would be appreciated.

Levi



From [e-mail] Mon Oct 07 20:35:20 1996
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From: John Mackey KA0SSF <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: RG-223/U COAX
Date: Wed, 02 Oct 1996 20:38:56 -0700
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Glen Quarnstrom wrote:


> [e-mail] wrote:
> >problem?  Bill, posted a challenge to get rid of the name calling
> >and down to real technical talk, and you still end up


> Perhaps Bill "jiggle" Cheeks could stop his own insults and
> namecalling, thus setting an example?

Well said Glen, very well said.




From [e-mail] Mon Oct 07 20:35:21 1996
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From: John Mackey KA0SSF <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: RG-223/U COAX
Date: Wed, 02 Oct 1996 20:44:07 -0700
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[e-mail] wrote:

> Damn John,  You must be the most anal person I have ever ran across.

Next to you I pale in only mild comparison.


> Every chance to mention Bill in a post you do it.  What is your

Bullshit, look at the first couple posts I made about coax, I never
mentioned Bill untill he jumped in critizing ham radio operators.



> problem?  Bill, posted a challenge to get rid of the name calling

Uh huh, pull your head out of your ass.  I have proposed a truce on
**TWO** different occasions & he has contiinued.


> and down to real technical talk, and you still end up name calling
> and prodding.  Get real.

You better read again, I didn't call Bill a name.  I am talking truth
about technical matters, & he responds by putting down ham radio.



From [e-mail] Mon Oct 07 20:35:22 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Bill Cheek)
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Date: Thu, 03 Oct 1996 04:45:14 GMT
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"douglas dumire" <[e-mail]> wrote:

>       Is there something behind the name Bill that makes people want to bad talk
>them???
>       Or is it that some people are envious of Bill Cheek   or   Bill Gates for
>there ideas and success.

I think it's the bills more so than a Bill.

:-)

Bill




From [e-mail] Mon Oct 07 20:35:25 1996
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Subject: Re: Credentials
Date: Thu, 03 Oct 1996 04:50:49 GMT
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[e-mail] wrote:

>> > Sooooooo, Mister John Mackey, let's you and me get down  and do some
>> > technical jousting for REAL.  Not insults and slander; rather nitty
>> > gritty technology where......I will clean your clock; sharpen your
>>
>> HEHEHEEHHEHEEHHEHEHEEHHEHEEHEHEHEHe
>>
>> You're such a comedian Billy!!!!
>>
>> > Your ONLY claim to fame is to play dirty.
>>
>> You mean like you, constantly lying & telling half-truths?

>John,  why don't you answer Bill, and play dirty, quit calling names,
>and talk technical.  So answer with just Yes or No.

He's not here for scanners or things technical.  What he said above
was tantamount to a low-life, slithering, snake-in-the-grass, "No."

I believe there is no further use in dealing or trying to deal with
him.  Mackey has his own self-serving interests and agenda.  I'm about
ready to stick him in my shit-list.

It's just that as a minister, I'm trained to never give up on lost
souls.  But this one is perhaps already discarnate.......

Rev. Bill
ULC




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From: [e-mail] (Bill Cheek)
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[e-mail] (Bill Nelson) wrote:

>Bill Cheek ([e-mail]) wrote:
>: "Glenn Hansen" <[e-mail]> wrote:
>
>: >The ban is on the sale not the possession of these 'special' radios.
>
>: Sale, yes.  But also importation, too.  Otherwise, imported goods must
>: be matched by invoices or bills of lading that show the imported
>: contraband is for subsequent export.
>
>Import for sale, yes. As far as I know, there is no ban on import for
>private use.

That's an interesting concept.  I haven't followed the entire thread,
but if the implication is toward the so-called "export radios", then
they are not legal to import unless there is a matching bill of lading
for export.  That's how Customs looks at it, anyway.

As for cellular-capable radios....hmmmmm.   Private use only?
Perhaps.  I don't know about that one.

Bill




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[e-mail] wrote:
>repetitive junk removed<
>BESIDES,NOT PLAYING THE GAME FAIRLY IS ILLEGAL.SO LET'S BE
>REASONABLE

Question - how can it be illegal to cheat on an illegal scheme???
Its like the guy who went to the police complaining about the chap who
sold him inferior quality cocaine....
Guido





Guido Zsilavecz         [e-mail]
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From: [e-mail] (Jerry Lindell)
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Subject: Re: RG 59\U
Date: Thu, 03 Oct 1996 06:22:34 GMT
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[e-mail] (Bill Cheek) wrote:

>>Yes. Here are the loss factors per 100-ft for cables at 1000 MHz:

>RG-58           22   dB  Hobbyist
>RG-8x           13   dB    grade
>RG-8            12   dB      coaxial
>RG-59           11   dB        cables
>RG-6             8.5 dB
>Belden 8214      7   dB
>Belden 9913      4.5 dB
>========================================
>Andrew LDF2-50A  3.5 dB  Commercial
>Andrew LDF4-50A  2.3 dB    Grade
>Andrew LDF5-50A  1.5 dB       Cables

>The Andrew cables are "hardline" and not generally suited for
>hobbyists due to expense of not only the cable, but also the special
>connectors that are required.

Is anybody familiar with a cable manufactured by Chushcraft/Singnals
called ULTRALINK 93605 . A guy who installs 2 way mobile radios said
they use this on their base station installations and says it's better
and cheaper than Belden 9913.

Jerry
[e-mail]



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In <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Ima P. Ness) writes:
>
>
>-  My manager has been with the company for over 15
>->years and to this day, I can't see how he's lasted this long.  Why
do
>->people continue to go back to Radio Shack if they have so many
gripes and
>->complaints against them!
>->
>-    That manager seems to be fulfilling the Peter Principle.

      He lasts "that long" because he gave up and fits in with
      the RS attitude: pay cheap and reap those that need to be
      told what to do with their lives....RS fills that gap.

      People go into RS with an attitude.  Once they go through
      that "your address please"...after a Cash transaction...
      well, it just pleases a lot of people to know that they
      have an address to give...I just tell the inquisitioneer
      that "I"M HOMELESS...don't know the address on my cardboard
      box."

      You can see their feeble minds trying to UNDERSTAND.  You
      know they have not been programmed with that ANSWER...and
      their lights go dead and they look for the manager for
      answers...that is why he lasts fifteen years...HE DON"T
      HAVE THE ANSWER.

      bill conduit


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From: Scott Cochran <[e-mail]>
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Chris Kalmar wrote:
>
> PVBoy33 wrote:
> >
> > Scott Cochran wrote:
> > >Just last week, when the first lady was in town, I monitored traffic on
> > >415.700. "Crown Crown Executive One Foxtrot" was heard. What or who is
> > >Crown??
> >
> > In response, the rumor I've heard on the subject is that "Crown" is the
> > ground SS agents
> He flew by east Iowa enroute Muscatine Iowa.
> Is he Exec 1 freighter carrying limo's?
> They ran a patch then went secure (they feed modems over the
> voice circuit)
> Sample in
> http://www.geocities.com/Tokyo/3899/scanners.html
I was told by writer from RCMA (in transition) that Crown is the White
House. Several decent sources have said the same. FYI-Scott


From [e-mail] Mon Oct 07 20:35:31 1996
From: [e-mail] (Jonathan Clough)
Subject: Re: Military Aero Ant
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In article <51epnm$[e-mail]>
           [e-mail] "Alec Lemas" writes:

> In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail]
>  wrote:
> >We have in the main found this to outperform other types on the military
> >airband. Its possible to have 1 of the Dipoles cut for VHF Airband and the
> >remaining 5 for UHF and the performance is still good. I guess if your
> >interest was outside the airbands you could have dipoles cut to specific
> >areas of interest that would hopefully give improved RX on those frequncies
> >over say a Disconne but yet still maintain to some degree "average" RX over
> >a wider spectrum.
> >
>
>  How 'bout a price.I think,if I really try,I can figure the Pound -> $ rate.

Not cheap I'm afraid - around 90.00 Pounds.

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JC,
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From: [e-mail] (Jonathan Clough)
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In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail]  writes:

> Why not use what the military uses?  A discone.

Whilst the antennas you may say on top of Military Control Towers etc may look
similar to the commonly accepted "Disconne" you can by at your local RS I
think you will find them a little bit different in particilar quite a bit
smaller and "tuned" to the UHF frequencies.

The RAF & RN used to/still do use a "solid cone" type antenna that looked
rather like a Clowns Hat than anything else. These were specifically
deisgned for the 220-400MHz frequencies.

          /-\
         /   \
        /     \
       /_______\
       |       |
        \ | | /
          | |
          | |

They were sometimes available at outlets that purchased suprlus MOD
equipment and if you have a suitable Castle Wall to secure them to (They are
very heavy) they work very well indeed but they are very heavy indeed. The
story goes that the MoD later realised that they were worth more melted down
for metal content than they 5.00 Pounds or so they were getting selling them
as surplus.

When actually using a "Nest of Dipoles" cut for 220-400MHz or a "Disconne"
I can only really say that with few exceptions feedback would suggest the
difference in reception is considerable - in favour of the Nest.

However as with any antenna its impossible to say how well something will
work for you in your location until you try it.

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John Mackey KA0SSF <[e-mail]> wrote:

>OK Bill, support your statement proving that the UV sensitivity of mose
>coax cables is a "old wive's tale".  Tell us the study, technical article, or
>reference in a credible book or magazine that supports your (stupid)
>statement.
WWhy don't you tell us, John. Since you seem so keen on the point...
However, lt me wet this one with some facts.
Fact, most cable (including the "cheapy" brands) will survive the weather nice
ly.
  Case in point: I live in an apartment complex in which cable was installed a
s a refit
about 5 years after the buildings were put in. Some of this cable is routed ou
tside (most
of that being on the roof). This cable has (for the most part) performed witho
ut severe
loss, in weather that is normal for the Arizona desert, for almost 15 years! T
he cable was
the usual brand of 75 ohm stuff that is cheap. the jacket was brittle (due to
exposure to
the sun) but otherwise whole and unbroken. Explain how this could be john.....
 This type
of cable did NOT have the uv protected sheathing you desribe, and worked nicel
y in some of
the harshest natural conditions for 16 years (until replacement this last year
). Most of
the cable was in remarkably good shape, considering the conditions that it was
 used in
(average temp on a roof in the arizona desert often exceeds 150 F).


>NOT if they are exposed to sunlight, about 6 years is all they can
>take.
Read above and say that again....

>Can you even provide a single shread of documentation to support your
>statement rather than attempting to detract from the issue by cutting
>down ham radio again to help with your defense.

Granted, UV protection can extend the life of certain tyes of cable (prevent t
he sheathing
from decomposing under adverse conditions). However, your case seems to demand
 extremes
that can't possibly exist outside of a lab. I was into CB in Phoenix for almos
t 15 years
and used the same RG-8 cable on the tower for most of that time. Given the con
nectors were
checked periodically, I had NO problems with that cable (its the black sheath)
. It
withstood temps as high as 150 F (on the roof in direct sunlight) in the summe
r and cold
stuff as low as 10 F in the winter (which is rare, but has happened) at night.
 I had said
cable tested when I removed it from service, and it was still viable (a little
 more lossy
at 27 MHz, but not much). The rating on it for 30 MHz was less than 1 DB/100ft
 loss (new)
and what was measured after 14 years was just over 1.2db/100F for the cable I
had (and it
was just over 120 feet long!).


>heheeheheh bullshit.
Cows do it too, John, but they don't brag about it.......


>YES, & it is the insulation for the center that becomes violated
>when exposed to sunlight.
This only happens if the outer sheathing has decomposed significantly. As stat
ed above, I
have dealt with 2 types of cable oever a long period of time. These could be c
onsidered
"real world" tests for all intents. If you don't move the cable much over time
, it won't
develope cracks in the outer lining near as fast. It is true that weathering e
ffects (like
heat/moister/cold) can degrade the performance of coaxial line. However, if pr
operly
treated, that line can withstand a full decade of the worst that mother nature
 can offer.


>Funny how you HAVE NEVER been able to come up with anything to
>support your status an an engineer.  No fcc license, no degree,
>no accreditating body, nothing.  No wonder you come up with the
>bedpan changer idea, that is probably what you do for a living.
He has done plenty. Why don't you read his books (he has published at least th
ree). I have
checked. I found some people who actually confirmed that Mr. Cheek is a respec
ted member
of the local IEEE in his area. Besides, you have done so much accusation, that
 the burden
of proof lies with you. In this country, you are innocent until proven otherwi
se. You have
NOT proven Mr. Cheek to be a liar. You have, by your own statements, proven yo
urself to be
a loudmouthed "wannabe" with no real sense of the larger scheme of things.

>No, actually, you stole the bedpan thing from Glenn Hansen because you
>are to lame/stupid to come up with anything original.  Instead, you
>copy from others (sorta like how you always come up with scanner mods
>shortly after Bob Parness comes up with them).

Hmmm, hate to say this John, but you are attempting to divert the point. Have
you even
considered the possibility that Mr. Cheek and Mr. Parnass can exchange (or com
pare) notes?
Most good professionals know that they do not know everything about their prof
ession. This
is why they join groups like the International Electrical & Electronics Engine
ering union
(IEEE). I don't even feel that you considered this at all.


Basically, to make a long point short. John, you are a fool to persist in this
 useless
arguement. Please shelve it. I think I have made my point.




From [e-mail] Mon Oct 07 20:35:35 1996
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>> no degree,
>
>Correct.  I have several degrees.   :-)
>
>>no accreditating body, nothing.
>
>Wrong.  IEEE. ISA, APCO, RCA, NARTE, MENSA,.....and.....more.

Wow, I don't know about the rest of these, but when I went to P$U, the only
thing IEEE was good for was a free pizza party and maybe a T-shirt that you
had to pay for anyway.  Heck, you still have to pay an outrageous sum to get
into it after you graduate.  They don't require anything but ca$h.   tyler



From [e-mail] Mon Oct 07 20:35:36 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Dick Zeitlin)
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Date: Thu, 03 Oct 1996 13:51:14 GMT
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On Mon, 30 Sep 1996 08:11:32 -0500, "I. M. Ecox" <[e-mail]>
wrote:

>                                                    They link
>to various ground stations to keep up with AF-1 (Executive One
>Foxtrot).

Executive 1 Foxtrot would not be the callsign for AF-1.  The
"Executive One Foxtrot" denotes a civilian aircraft carrying the first
family, but not the president.  Any military aircraft carrying the
president uses the callsign "<service> 1"  (Air Force 1, Marine 1,
etc.)  If I take Clinton sightseeing in a Cherokee (not bloody
likely!) I could use the callsign "Executive 1"

All this is set out in excruciating detail in the Air Traffic
Controller's Handbook.

        D/

--
ObDis: The account is borrowed.  The thoughts are all mine.


From [e-mail] Mon Oct 07 20:35:37 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Michael Schuster)
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Subject: Re: Opto Xlorer vs. conventional scanners
Date: 3 Oct 1996 10:26:33 -0400
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In article <52ve45$[e-mail]>,
Andrei Moutchkine <[e-mail]> wrote:
>
>       OK, what can conventional scanners do what Xplorer cannot?

A lot ... but just off the top of my head:

Receive signals not in the immediate vicinity of the receiver.

Demodulate AM and sideband mode transmissions.

Store frequencies in banks of memory locations and check each of them
periodically for activity (i.e. SCAN).

Add, remove, modify the contents of such memory channels as conditions,
licenses, interference, useage patterns change.

Seach between two frequency limits for activity.

>If I buy the Xplorer, I would be using it as my primary device.

Very poor choice unless your object is to find nearby new frequencies
but never listen to them once found.

--
Mike Schuster           |       [e-mail]
[e-mail]      |       [e-mail]


From [e-mail] Mon Oct 07 20:35:38 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Michael Jacobs)
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        Forgive me if this turns out to be a duplicate post, I haven't
seen my first one show up, nearly a week later.

        I have a Radio-Shack Pro-42 I'm very happy with but it does seem
to be getting quieter and quieter.  Replacing the NiCads with fresh
alkaline batteries helped a very small amount.  Odd as this sounds, it
*feels* as if the problem might be the connection under the antenae or
volume switch.
        Does this sound repairable, and if so to whom should I send it?
An e-mail response would be greatly appreciated.

                          Many Thanks,

                                Michael Jacobs
--
Michael C. Jacobs  -  [e-mail]
- Certified Netware Engineer
- IBM Certified OS/2 Engineer
- IBM Certified Lan Server Engineer


From [e-mail] Mon Oct 07 20:35:39 1996
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Aaron Giles <[e-mail]> wrote in article
<52usq7$[e-mail]>...
> >   The pilot explained to me that the altimiter changes with
changes in
> >barometric pressure...as you go higher, lower pressure, and
the dial
> >registers this, etc...  This is a very exact gradient between
barometric
> >pressure and (vertical) distance, so if you know the exact
barometric
> >pressure at a point on the ground near your location (and
also know that
> >point's distance above sea level) you can accurately know
your altitude
> >within a few feet.  Altimiters are adjustable, and have a
seperate setting
> >on the face (that looks like an odometer) that you set
accordingly when
> >your local airport gives you the "altimiter setting."
> >

> The rate at which pressure changes with altitude also depends
on the
> temperature of the air, so the altimeter reading probably
isn't that accurate
> on days when the temperature is not close to standard.
>
And that is reason for the communication being refered to here.
The baro-altimeter on board a plane uses the air pressure
gradient to measure the plane's altitude in reference to a fixed
point in altitude.  This fixed point is usually "mean sea-level"
(MSL altitude).  The pilot must periodically get updates to keep
his altimeter adjusted for changes in barometric pressure due to
weather conditions.  "Atlanta altimeter is 2900" would tell the
pilot (as he nears Atlanta) that, given the current conditions
and Atlanta's actual altitude above sea-level,  the correct
local zero setting for sea level is 29.00 inches Hg.  It is very
accurate as far as measuring the pressure gradient, but must be
kept adjusted for the reference point.  To measure height "above
ground level" (AGL altitude) they bounce radar off the ground
below, i.e. radar altimeter.



From [e-mail] Mon Oct 07 20:35:40 1996
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From: "Scott A. Nelson" <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: Radio Shack's 1997 Catalog Policy
Date: Thu, 03 Oct 1996 08:52:25 -0700
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Ima P. Ness wrote:
>
> In article <51fk58$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] says...
> ->
> ->Actually, Radio Shack isn't being silly about the catalog issue, the
> ->customers are!  And, if you don't like being asked your name and address
> ->OR paying 2.95 for a catalog, then shop somewhere else ! ! !
>
> Brilliant attitude.  You can ask away, and as long as I am paying cash,
> you can kiss my ass.  Any you dear dipshit droid type dumb ass, can keep you
r
> 2.95 catalog for emergency T.P.
>
> love to all
>
> Ima

I must be naive.  I thought all this STUPID bullshit was over.  Let's
PLEASE use this newsgroup for what it was intended.  Who gives a shit
about the RS catalog?
Almost two (!) weeks went by and now we have more postings by another
idiot with nothing better to do...

-- Scott --


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From: Larry Lefczik <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: Pro 2021 Key Beep Mod
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Yes there is a mod to lower or eliminate the beep.  I have done it to my
PRO-2021 and will have to get the details for you.  I am fairly sure it
is a yellow wire from the keypad to the rear of the main board, but I'll
have to confirm that.


From [e-mail] Mon Oct 07 20:35:41 1996
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From: [e-mail] (chainsaw)
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Subject: Re: CDN Military Freq.???
Date: Thu, 03 Oct 1996 16:12:47 GMT
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[e-mail] (Greg LaP.) wrote:

>Does any one have a list of Cdn Military freqs. which have been left
>off the DOC freq. lists?????

>               Greg
>               [e-mail]


I'd like that list also!



From [e-mail] Mon Oct 07 20:35:42 1996
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Hi,I just picked up this scanner,it worked fine for
a couple of days and then went caput!
Everything appears normal except for the fact that
it never picks up ANY signal??
I am not familiar with this unit,anyone have any ideas???
  Thanxx



From [e-mail] Mon Oct 07 20:35:43 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Blue dot 9)
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Subject: Re: radar detectors as scanners?
Date: 3 Oct 1996 12:21:13 -0400
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In article <52u0eq$[e-mail]>, [e-mail]
(Brian Paul Wilde) writes:

>
>The new radar detectors are 'intelligent' ones, in that they can
>receive coded signals and display a message alerting the driver
>to hazardous conditions, work, or emergency vehicles.
>
>Seeing a demo of them, I was impressed.  Being an emergency responder,
>I find this a great tool.
>
>-Brian Wilde
>-FF/Medic/N2OWD
>
>

Actually, I read an article in a publication which stated that governments
(fed, state, local) were going to put low emittance radars on vehicles
which are for emergency, DOT, and public service use.

The reason for this is that there are millions of ppl with radar detectors
in thier vehicles.  The idea is to 'fool' ppl that there is a 'patrolman,
or cop' in the area thus making the driver slow down to the speeds posted
(usually 45mph during highway construction).

This is probably the demo that you stated that you saw.  Lots of 'smoke
and flash' when actually its just plain radar.

BTW, using a radar detector as a scanner.......pphhhlllbbbtt!  8-P  I
don't think so.  Using a radar detector in conjuction with a mobile
scanning setup gets the thumbs up.

Steer clear of those 360 degree radar detectors.  Nothing more that a
non-shielded detector case.  Good ones are made of all metal constuction
with a cone-collector exposed (which is then covered by a small piece of
plastic to prevent damage).  Uniden made some of the best lower-cost,
all-metal detectors!

360 degrees is nothing more than a gimmick which promotes shoddily made
radar detectors (a QVC specialty at the most!).

Dave
(Scanner Flatulaire)


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From: [e-mail] (Blue dot 9)
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Subject: Re: Credentials
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My cat's breath smells like cat-food....  ;-)

Dave


From [e-mail] Mon Oct 07 20:35:45 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Blue dot 9)
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Subject: FS: RS PRO-2026 MOBILE CELL CAPABLE
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 I have a Pro 2026 mobile scanner  that is an "A" code.  This means it
doesn't have the built in cable but a DC jack (allows for home use).  The
manufacture date code is 11A3--which means that this is the most desirable
version of this scanner.  Please note that the "B" code version is not
cell modifiable.

Item is new..from RS and is still in the original box, and is a VIRGIN in
terms of modifications!  You do the mod yourself or I'll do it for you.
You be the judge.

Asking price is $180 firm.

Disclaimer:  LISTENING TO CELL CONVERSATIONS IS ILLEGAL IN THE 50 UNITED
STATES!  I am not responsible if you get busted.


Shipping is ~$8.00 UPS GROUND--possibly more if out of USA.

Dave

PS.  Two people have responded to this, the first one had a girlfriend
that wouldn't let him buy it (!!!), and the second never showed thus
placing the scanner on hold for almost a month.


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From: "Patrick D. Lukens" <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: Small investment with a Big return, not a scam
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Danny Allen wrote:
>  I saw an article in an internet newsgroup telling me
>  I could make $50,000 within a month for an investment of only $5.
>
>          1. Linda Lapierre,  PO BOX XXXXXXXXXX
>          2. Oleg Gorbik, XXXXXXXXXX
>          3. Christo van Zyl, XXXXXXXXXXXX
>          4. Dan Allen, 419 Oley St., Reading PA 19601.
>          5. Ruth Ragan, XXXXX
>
>  2) Put your name as
>  the fifth one on the list.

Gees, not only did this guy fall for a pyramid scheme, he's *CHEATING* at
it, too!


--
--Patrick


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Subject: Re: CB linear amps 4 Sale - Hypocrites
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John Mackey KA0SSF acts like an ass (again) ---
> > Jim Wayda wrote:
> > > Do not buy a CB Linear amplifier. You could be fined by the FCC and
> > > also serve jail time. It is not worth it.

 > Lets ask Bill Cheek.  He's been busted for running CB linears
> before at least once.

John,  Starting it again aren't you?  We just read where you
cry like a baby that you keep asking for a truce but Bill
won't leave you alone. You are such a wimp. Cry us that
truce river again would you.


Larry
ROFLMAO at little boy John



From [e-mail] Mon Oct 07 20:35:48 1996
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From: "E. Scott Sykes" <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Credentials
Date: Thu, 03 Oct 1996 21:16:00 -0300
Organization: Mercury Monitor
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Larry Wilson wrote:
>
> Brian Varine says;
> >>On Thu, 3 Oct 1996, John Mackey KA0SSF wrote:
> >>> Bud Jamison wrote:
>
> >>> John, SHUT the fuck up.  No one CARES about your vendetta against Bill.
> >> Bud, do us all a favor & GO TO HELL.  We don't need your CONSTANT
> >          ^^
> >> nagging
> >> here to.
>
> >Us? And who is us? I think the rest of "us" are tired of your bullshit
> >and Cheek bashing. You've proved your point, you don't like Cheek
>
> >Now----Start talking scanners or SHUT THE FUCK UP!
>
> He can't. He has never said shit about scanners. All he
> can do is cause trouble. All he can do is repeat misinformation
> about coax he heard from his Ham buddies. He is a world class
> ass and nothing else.
> Yes John, another vote for you to shut up and go away.


All those opposed say ye nay.

 (silence)

All those in favor say ye aye.
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ayeayeayeayeayeaeayeayeayeayeayeayeayeayeayeayeayeayeayeayeayeayeyayeayeayeaye
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yeayeayeayeayeayeayeayeayeayeyayeayeayeayeayeayeayeayeayeayeayeayeayeayeayeaye
ayeaye
The ayes have it!!!!

Scott


From [e-mail] Mon Oct 07 20:35:49 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Raymond Miller)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: E-mail address for E.D.C.O. Please
Date: 4 Oct 1996 00:20:18 GMT
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Looking for the E-mail address for edco in Vienna Virginia, please. If
anyone has this, please pass it along if you can. A general one is fine,
but if you have the specific one for the AOR representative stationed
there (Mr. K. Ochina) that would be great. Thanks a lot
Regards, Ray Miller N2NJK


From [e-mail] Mon Oct 07 20:35:50 1996
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From: "E. Scott Sykes" <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: radar detectors as scanners?
Date: Thu, 03 Oct 1996 21:56:55 -0300
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Blue dot 9 wrote:
>
> In article <52u0eq$[e-mail]>, [e-mail]
> (Brian Paul Wilde) writes:
>
> >
> >The new radar detectors are 'intelligent' ones, in that they can
> >receive coded signals and display a message alerting the driver
> >to hazardous conditions, work, or emergency vehicles.
> >
> >Seeing a demo of them, I was impressed.  Being an emergency responder,
> >I find this a great tool.
> >
> >-Brian Wilde
> >-FF/Medic/N2OWD
> >
> >
>
> Actually, I read an article in a publication which stated that governments
> (fed, state, local) were going to put low emittance radars on vehicles
> which are for emergency, DOT, and public service use.
>
> The reason for this is that there are millions of ppl with radar detectors
> in thier vehicles.  The idea is to 'fool' ppl that there is a 'patrolman,
> or cop' in the area thus making the driver slow down to the speeds posted
> (usually 45mph during highway construction).
>
> This is probably the demo that you stated that you saw.  Lots of 'smoke
> and flash' when actually its just plain radar.
>
> BTW, using a radar detector as a scanner.......pphhhlllbbbtt!  8-P  I
> don't think so.  Using a radar detector in conjuction with a mobile
> scanning setup gets the thumbs up.
>
> Steer clear of those 360 degree radar detectors.  Nothing more that a
> non-shielded detector case.  Good ones are made of all metal constuction
> with a cone-collector exposed (which is then covered by a small piece of
> plastic to prevent damage).  Uniden made some of the best lower-cost,
> all-metal detectors!
>
> 360 degrees is nothing more than a gimmick which promotes shoddily made
> radar detectors (a QVC specialty at the most!).
>
> Dave
> (Scanner Flatulaire)

It may have been the scanner that looks like a Radar Detector! Some
major manufacturer builds a device that looks broadcasts from the mobile
extenenders that are used to transmit car calls from police cruisers to
the portable and vice versa. It works much better than RDs when it
works, because mobile extenders transmit omni-directional around corners
and over hills. Virginia State Police uses 458.350 mhz and it works for
about 1/2 mile or so on my 2006 a cheap ant.

Scott


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From: [e-mail] (Don Lejeune)
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Subject: Re: Merci
Date: 4 Oct 1996 00:59:29 GMT
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In , GDI writes:

>What are the frequencies for Merci (Medical) in the Chicago Area?
>Also any hostpitals in the North-West suburbs of Chicago.. Thanks
>They are 462.750,462.850,463.925,464.350.And for Northwestern memorial
they are 35.680,43.680,152.0075,152.480,155.280,155.340.


From [e-mail] Mon Oct 07 20:35:51 1996
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From: Brian Varine <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: Credentials
Date: Thu, 3 Oct 1996 18:01:48 -0700
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On Thu, 3 Oct 1996, John Mackey KA0SSF wrote:

> Brian Varine wrote:
>
> > Us? And who is us? I think the rest of "us" are tired of your bullshit
> > and Cheek bashing. You've proved your point, you don't like Cheek
> > Now----Start talking scanners or SHUT THE FUCK UP!

> Son, you better just stick to your studies down there in Eugene.  You're
> not in this league.

Eugene? I'm in Corvallis dumbshit.


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From: [e-mail] (Harold B Richard Sr.)
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Date: 4 Oct 1996 01:19:31 GMT
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If someone needs a Frequency for something.Please send the name,Town and state
 of Frequency your searching for.Reply at e-mail above.


From [e-mail] Mon Oct 07 20:35:53 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Joe)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner,phl.scanner
Subject: Re: Comouter Controled Scanners
Date: Fri, 04 Oct 96 01:33:09 GMT
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Sorry,about the mistype.




Joe
[e-mail]


From [e-mail] Mon Oct 07 20:35:54 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Edward Bialas)
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Subject: Re: RG 59\U
Date: 4 Oct 1996 01:48:10 GMT
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This is a bunch of (B.S).  Even if UV destroys the outer insulation, so
what.

The cable is made up of an inner conductor surrounded by something like
"ground braid material". The distance seperating these two conductors
determines the impedance of the cable and this distance must remain
constant throught the lenght of the cable itself..

All the  outer insulation does is to cover up the cable and has nothing
to do with the characteristics of the cable itself.

Now if the outer insulation is gone, yes the cable is more suseptable to
wrinkles, "kinks", and other distortions and this will cause you problems.
 At these deformed spots within the cable the imedence will  be slightly
different because the distance between inner and outer conductor would
have changed.

I've stated my peace.....UV is B.S.

















From [e-mail] Mon Oct 07 20:35:55 1996
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Subject: Re: Credentials
Date: Thu, 03 Oct 1996 18:51:18 -0700
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John Mackey KA0SSF wrote:
>
> [e-mail] wrote:
>
> > Are you that much pro-government John, that you must have something
> > issued by them to be valid in anything.  You sound like a  government
>
> No, I am simply asking Bill Cheek to put up or shut up.  He has stated
> numberous times he has a FCC issues commercial radio-telephone license.
> I have simply asked him to demonstrate proof by giving the license
> number.  Why would he have a reason to hide his license number??

John,

You have asked a great many different things of Bill.  Just right now
the credentials
seems to be the pet peeve of the month for you.  At times its the
material in his books.
OTher times it is his technical knowledge.  You claim he stole it.
Prove what you have to say.

What does a government certificate mean anyways.  Do you put that much
faith into the
the US government, that if they do not give the approval you will not
belive anything.
Damn, this is not WW Germany or Russia.

Grow up, Get a life, and get back to scanning.


> What kind of an answer could I give "I will clean your clock"??


John,

If you can clean his clock do it!  Otherwise shut up.


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tyler wrote:
>
> >> no degree,
> >
> >Correct.  I have several degrees.   :-)
> >
> >>no accreditating body, nothing.
> >
> >Wrong.  IEEE. ISA, APCO, RCA, NARTE, MENSA,.....and.....more.
>
> Wow, I don't know about the rest of these, but when I went to P$U, the only
> thing IEEE was good for was a free pizza party and maybe a T-shirt that you
> had to pay for anyway.  Heck, you still have to pay an outrageous sum to get
> into it after you graduate.  They don't require anything but ca$h.   tyler


What's you point?


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John Mackey KA0SSF wrote:
>
> tyler wrote:
>
> > >>no accreditating body, nothing.
> > >
> > >Wrong.  IEEE. ISA, APCO, RCA, NARTE, MENSA,.....and.....more.
>
> > Wow, I don't know about the rest of these, but when I went to P$U, the onl
y
> > thing IEEE was good for was a free pizza party and maybe a T-shirt that yo
u
> > had to pay for anyway.  Heck, you still have to pay an outrageous sum to g
et
> > into it after you graduate.  They don't require anything but ca$h.   tyler
>
> MOST of the other organizations he mentions are the same way,  just
> write
> a big check & you're in.
>
> BUT, Bill has NEVER been able to offer a single shread of evidence to
> prove his membership or certification with ANY of these organizations.
> All he would have to do is give a certificate or membership number that
> we could verify.  He can't even do that for his FCC license, he says his
> license does not have a number on it.  Funny, my FCC commercial license
> has a number on it & when I called the FCC they said EVERY commercial
> license they have EVER issued has number on it.
>
> Could Bill POSSIBLY be lying, oh perish the thought.

You are back into assumptions John,  say something with fact!


From [e-mail] Mon Oct 07 20:35:59 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Bill Nelson)
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Dan ([e-mail]) wrote:

: Then why do most new 800 Mhz scanners pick up cell phones by "immaging"?
: Answer that one Micky Mouse!

Because the FCC has not figured out a way to ban images.

Bill


From [e-mail] Mon Oct 07 20:35:59 1996
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From: KIRK MCDONALD <[e-mail]>
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Subject: PRO-2004/5/6
Date: Fri, 04 Oct 1996 00:56:05 -0400
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Can someone give me the specs. on these scanners. ie # of channels,
features, differences, ect., which one is best and can accept the most
modifications. I am interested in getting one of the new 2006's posted
in this ng, but would like more info on it first. Please advise me.
Thank you.
KM


From [e-mail] Mon Oct 07 20:36:00 1996
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From: [e-mail] (None)
Newsgroups: alt.radio.scanner,rec.radio.scanner,alt.radio.scanner.flame_fest
Subject: Computer Control Scanners
Date: Thu, 03 Oct 96 20:58:40 -0800
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I am looking for a quality scanner
(other than the AOR 8K)that can
 be computer controled with a
price tag under $700.Does anyone
know if Yupiteru plans on including
computer control interfaces with
any of their future models?I
have seen some info on new radio
shack models that have this feature
,but are they really high quality
products?Please post or e-mail me
with any info that you can provide
on this subject.


Thanks,
        Joe
        [e-mail]


From [e-mail] Mon Oct 07 20:36:01 1996
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Subject: Re: McDonalds
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Each McDonalds uses a different frequency.  I've found most to be in
the 30Mhz range.

Troy Alton wrote:
>
> Does anyone know the freqs for the drive through at McDonalds? I think it
> would be interesting to hear what they are saying about you.

--
________________________________
[e-mail]
http://www.westworld.com/~justus


From [e-mail] Mon Oct 07 20:36:02 1996
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From: [e-mail] (RfSam)
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Subject: PRO-2035 SCANNER  10-4-96
Date: 4 Oct 1996 07:38:21 -0400
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RADIO SHACK PRO-2035 DESKTOP SCANNER
1000 MEMORY CHANNELS
COVERAGE IS FROM    25-520MHZ and 760-1300MHZ
EXCELLENT CONDITION
$265


From [e-mail] Mon Oct 07 20:36:03 1996
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From: David <[e-mail]>
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Subject: FS AOR1000XLT
Date: Fri, 04 Oct 1996 06:16:55 -0700
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I have more scanners then I can use so I'm selling aor 1000xlt in the
original box.I
paid $395(recipt included)for on 1/11/93.It's in like new condition with
earphone,ac and
car adaptors and instructions.1000 channels and coverage from 500khz
through 1300mhz.
The price is $275 plus $10 for shipping.I'll send it cod.Thanks

                                 David


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From: [e-mail] (Tim Moore)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: anybody own a Pro-2037 ?
Date: 4 Oct 1996 17:37:48 GMT
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This is directed to current owners of Pro-2037's. I just bought one
yesterday and I am wondering if mine is acting correctly. I can't pick
up anything between 896mhz to 920mhz. I have a Pro-51 that picks up lots
of stuff in that range.

Does the freq 121.5 give you static? Like a mini birdie that adjusting
the squelch does not overcome. When scanning it just stops right on that
freq and won't go again unless I lock it out. Heck, its the aviation
emergency freq. and I listen to it on all my other scanners.

--
Tim Moore [e-mail]
10/04/96 13:12
Transmitting LIVE from
Fredericksburg, VA




From [e-mail] Mon Oct 07 20:36:04 1996
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From: [e-mail] (BILL WATTS)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Credentials
Date: Fri, 04 Oct 96 11:42:00 -0800
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-=> Quoting John Mackey Ka0ssf to All <=-

 JMK> BILL WATTS wrote:

 > I second the motion.

 JMK> Why don't you & Bud both go to hell.

No, thanks. You've given this group a foretaste of Hell
with your posts and I don't want to be doomed to that.

... Bill Watts  ex-Cape Codder  [e-mail]


From [e-mail] Mon Oct 07 20:36:05 1996
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From: [e-mail]
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Date: Fri, 04 Oct 1996 21:46:52 GMT
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I have a SC 150 Pick up lots of Cell activity in the high bands 800 to
950.

"_DEiCiDE_" <[e-mail]> wrote:

>I have one of the newer uniden scanners called the sportcat.....
>of course the cellular phones are blocked....does anyone know of any
>modifications for this scanner????
>



From [e-mail] Mon Oct 07 20:36:06 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Daniel M. Conti)
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Brian Varine <[e-mail]> wrote:

>On 4 Oct 1996, TLink94222 wrote:

>> Can anyone out there give me some help trying to locate the new
>> frequency(s) for the Jersey City Medical Center.  Understand they may have
>> moved to a 900Mhz system but have had no luck trying to find it.  The new
>> ScannerMaster still lists the old system frequencies.  Thanks!  You can
>> E-mail me at [e-mail].

>Try 935-940 MHz

>=============================================================================
=
>Brian R. Varine <[e-mail]>                    Finger for PGP Key
>http://www.orst.edu/~varineb                              When in doubt,
>Stop Highway Robbery! http://www.motorists.com              -=JAM IT=-



That certainly narrows it down!
[e-mail]
Compuserve - 71242,1774        Amateur Radio - N2TYB
Ridgefield, New Jersey




From [e-mail] Mon Oct 07 20:36:07 1996
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From: Warren Whitby III <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: radar detectors as scanners?
Date: Fri, 04 Oct 1996 16:31:14 -0700
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E. Scott Sykes wrote:
> It may have been the scanner that looks like a Radar Detector! Some
> major manufacturer builds a device that looks broadcasts from the mobile
> extenenders that are used to transmit car calls from police cruisers to
> the portable and vice versa. It works much better than RDs when it
> works, because mobile extenders transmit omni-directional around corners
> and over hills. Virginia State Police uses 458.350 mhz and it works for
> about 1/2 mile or so on my 2006 a cheap ant.

My state uses a seperate VHF frequency for car-to-base transmissions.
Every time that frequency comes in clear on my mobile scanner, I know
that one is nearby.

Warren Whitby
[e-mail]


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From: [e-mail] (Eric Oyen)
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John Mackey KA0SSF <[e-mail]> wrote:


>Strange how all these problems have one common demonitor, Bill Cheek.
No, they have more than one denominator. you are the second denominator, John.
 In fact,
you are more common in thse discussions than Bill is. So, Put up, or shut up!

>You are correct, Cheek is NOTHING to be jealous of.
And what are you? You sure act jealous, John. Your very attitude speaks volume
s toward
that point...







From [e-mail] Mon Oct 07 20:36:09 1996
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In <534cqb$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Eric Oyen) writes:

>
>
> and engage thy brain.
>
>    He's been sitting on it for so long now...
     quite possibly he's going to have to get
     help to get his brain some air by being
     shown how to stand up.

     bill conduit
     etc.
>
>



From [e-mail] Mon Oct 07 20:36:09 1996
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From: "OLLIE FLINT" <[e-mail]>
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Subject: F.S. PRO 2021,PRO 50
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Hi ,
     I am selling my scanner gear(or trade?)
PRO 2021 with speed up mod .Desktop or mobil  200 chanel programmable AM
-FM  30 -512mhz  with manual.    perfect working cond.     $150.00

PRO 50  like new, 20 chanel hand held  30- 512mhz with oridginal box and
manual (4 mo. old)   $75.00

Ramsey down converter ,works great      $75.00


email
    Ollie Flint


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From: [e-mail] (Mark Krubsack)
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 On 4 Oct 1996 17:37:48 GMT, [e-mail] (Tim Moore) wrote:

>This is directed to current owners of Pro-2037's. I just bought one
>yesterday and I am wondering if mine is acting correctly. I can't pick
>up anything between 896mhz to 920mhz. I have a Pro-51 that picks up lots
>of stuff in that range.

The Pro-51 is a double conversion receiver.  The Pro-2037 is a triple
conversion receiver.  You are hearing images of the cellular calls on the
Pro-51, but the extra level/step of converson in the Pro-2037 eliminates
those images.

BTW, I have both of these scanners as well.  The new Pro-51 picks up
cellular fine as an image.  For the Pro-2037, I purchased Grove's
downconverter which works admirably.



 +------------------------------+
 |        Mark Krubsack         |
 |------------------------------|  To Know, To Dare, To Keep Silence.
 | e-mail: [e-mail] |
 +------------------------------+




From [e-mail] Mon Oct 07 20:36:11 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Brian Heath)
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Subject: Re: ** Bullet Prof Vests** For Sale
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Once upon a time, Tom Montgomery <[e-mail]> wrote:

*   > Do I need one of these when I listen to my scanner??????????????????
*
*   No, but you need one of these when you read some of posts in this
*   newsgroup.. Bullets flyin everywhere :)

I think we should take up a collection and get one for Bill Cheek --
he takes so many slings and arrows. <g>

Anyway -- I wouldn't buy from this dude first because he spams -- and
second because he can't spell.  Come on, "bullet-PROF"????!?!?!?!?!




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From [e-mail] Mon Oct 07 20:36:12 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Peter Gerba)
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Subject: 2006 ??? where??
Date: 4 Oct 1996 23:54:35 -0700
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Would some good egg please repost the 2006 ad.

thanks,
pete
[e-mail]



From [e-mail] Mon Oct 07 20:36:15 1996
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From: Dan <[e-mail]>
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Joel S Gamble wrote:
>
> Dan wrote:
> >
> > Bill Nelson wrote:
> > >
> > > Dan ([e-mail]) wrote:
> > >
> > > : Then why do most new 800 Mhz scanners pick up cell phones by "immaging
"?
> > > : Answer that one Micky Mouse!
> > >
> > > Because the FCC has not figured out a way to ban images.
> > >
> > > Bill
> >
> > Wrong...because the public would not buy them if they didnt pick up cell
> > calls in some way. The public gets what it wants.
>   This is rediculious!!
>   Do you think 'the public' buys scanners specifically to 'eavesdrop' on
> someones (totally boring) private conversations?
>   Do you think an 800 Mhz ONLY scanner would sell?I dont!
>   I have had several devices capable of  monitoring cellular calls and
> have listened to maybe 3 or 4 before becoming tired of it.
>   If a scanner will or will not recieve cellular has absolutely nothing
> to do with my decision to buy.
>   Am I alone in that I have no interest in listening to cellular?


Good for you! Just count the request for (800mhz) mods on the scanner
newsgroups. It speaks for its self.


From [e-mail] Mon Oct 07 20:36:18 1996
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From: [e-mail] (FishFotoJr)
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Subject: Re: ** Bullet Prof Vests** For Sale
Date: 5 Oct 1996 03:40:13 -0400
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Just as an aside, most Threat Level II (standard PD issue , some
departments do vary from level I through IIIA) run about $320-$360 a
piece, I am not sure what you are selling, but I am skeptical.  I have 2
vests, one was bought used from an NYC*EMS EMT for about $140, but it is
about $320 new, and I have  Threat Level III A vest that I purchased for
about $440, with shock plate at another $45.

No I do not need this when scanning at home, but I wear a vest most of the
time scanning in the car on the way to work, ie: news photography.

What state are these vests issue?  State PDs can buy them at discount do
to the volume, are you involved with the PD and managed to walk off with
the vests?  Are the panels certified, and serial numbered?  What is the
make?  Point Blank? Gall's/Gall's Lite? Magnum? Safariland???

Anyone else a tad skeptical?

Steven E. Frischling
Freelance News Photographer
Police Department City of New York Working Press #0067
City of SanJose Police Department Working Press PS53796


Steven E. Frischling
Freelance News Photographer
NYPD Working Press #0067

Too young to be respected; Too old to not be taken seriously; INVINCIBLE!;
Fear was just a word in the dictionary; Life was a right, not a gift;
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From [e-mail] Mon Oct 07 20:36:19 1996
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Bill Nelson wrote:
>
> Dan ([e-mail]) wrote:
> : Bill Nelson wrote:
> : >
> : > : Then why do most new 800 Mhz scanners pick up cell phones by "immaging
"?
                             ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> : > : Answer that one Micky Mouse!
> : >
> : > Because the FCC has not figured out a way to ban images.
> : >
> : > Bill
>
> : Wrong...because the public would not buy them if they didnt pick up cell
> : calls in some way. The public gets what it wants.
>
> Funny, Radio Shack (and others) do a booming business in scanners that do
> not go much above 500 MHz, so cannot receive cellular conversations, even
> through images. Even the newer triple conversion scanners, which are very
> immune to images, sell well.

Look above^^  We are talking about 800mhz scanners.....stay with us now!
Oh yea.....good concentration here.

And you really need to check....the Pro-2035 and the Pro-62 BOTH receive
cell due to imaging! And damn good I might add! So do your
homework.....Sir

> The "cellular buffs" are a small minority of the scanner crowd. Most are
> interested in the local public service communications - or the easily
> monitored "wireless phone" conversations of their neighbors.

> Bill

I love being a minority. Most people who get into the hobbie but a cheep
one fist (makes sence). After they see if they like it, then they shell
out the bucks for a good one. Hell I still have and still buy non-800mhz
scanners but none of them can replace my Pro-43. Top dog in my
book......besides the AOR-8000 which is a bit expensive..(but worth it,
so I have heard!) I too like to listen to public service but I have only
met a few people on a hundred who didn't like listening to cell
calls......and they were just pissed because they have a cell phone and
didn't realize they could be listened to. Guess they had something to
hide!

More and more of the seriouse scanner buffs are ordering from Canada or
the UK so they can have FULL 800mhz coverage. You can act like its not a
big deal but it is. Just read the post in the scanner news groups and
you will see. If we had a $1 everytime someone ask for a mod to unlock
the 800mhz portion of their scanner we could retire. Facts are facts.


.........next


From [e-mail] Mon Oct 07 20:36:20 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Georg Schwarz)
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Subject: Freq spacing of CT1+ cordless telephones?
Date: 5 Oct 1996 08:41:02 GMT
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Could anyone tell me what frequency spacing between different channels
the CT1+ standard for cordless telephones (analogue ones, in
use for some years in Germany and probably other [European]
countries, too) is? What bandwidth (per direction) do those
phones normally utilize? I *think* they have 40 channel
pairs, but I could be wrong.
Enlightening answers are welcome. Please try to send any resonses
by mail as well. Thanks a lot.

PS: I'm not sure if this is the correct news group to ask that
question. If not, please excuse me.
--
Georg Schwarz ([e-mail], [e-mail], PGP 2.6ui)
Institut fⁿr Theoretische Physik  [phone]   FAX -21130   IRC kuroi
Technische UniversitΣt Berlin  http://itp1.physik.tu-berlin.de/~schwarz/


From [e-mail] Mon Oct 07 20:36:21 1996
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From: Don Hayes <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Electronic Definitions
Date: Sat, 5 Oct 96 06:53:33 -0500
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You mean you actually had the entire message referred to, just so you can
make a comment on the validity of Cheeks' degree? Please spare us the nonsense
.


From [e-mail] Mon Oct 07 20:36:24 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Bob Zito)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner,rec.radio.swap,alt.radio.scanner
Subject: FS/FT:AOR AR-2515 Scanner in excellent condition now $349.00 + Shipping OR
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AOR AR-2515 Scanner in excellent condition now $349.00 + Shipping OR
Trade for Dual-band (2m/70 cm mobile tranmceiver OR 1.2 Ghz/220
tranceiver)
 Following specs:
 AOR-AR3000A style case/display/keypad
 Full Cellular enabled
 Priority feature
 Copy data from log or Frequency to Banks
 Link all banks together or group
 12 Vdc input
 120 Vac adapter included
 Modes
   Narrow FM
   Wide FM
   AM
  Search Increments
    5 kHz
    12.5 kHz
    25 kHz
  2000 Memories
 15 programmable Search banks
  5-1500 Mhz
 10-segment LED signal strenth meter as well as recorded in software
 10 db attenuation switch
 Triple conversion
  Lock
  Backlight
  RS232 Computer interface
     DOS Software included!
     Load-up all memories from computer
     Load-up computer Software from Scanner memories
     All functions controllable by software
     Software works with commen Frequency databases
     Spectrum Analyzer in software
     Bank Maintainance in software
     Frequency Database with descriptions in software
     Print Bank & Frequency Lists
     Link/Unlink banks from software
     Cable included!
<[e-mail]> (Bob Zito) KI7EV WA. State


From [e-mail] Mon Oct 07 20:36:25 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Dr Pepper)
Newsgroups: alt.radio.scanner,rec.radio.scanner
Subject: response to J.T. Ward, PopCom
Date: Sat, 05 Oct 1996 19:54:27 GMT
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The following is my response to J. T. Wards article in the November
issue of PopComm., . , . , . ,


I read with interest, the column by J. T. Ward in the November
issue of PopularCommunications.  His premise of the government
banning scanner radios is not all that farfetched. After all,
they did in the UK.  And judging the present political climate
here in the US,  laws like this are not only possible, but are
probable.  Look at the cellular ban,  the "V" chip, and the
Computer Decency Act (Which was declared unconstitutional).
Orwells predictions of  "1984" didn't quite come true, but we
are getting there.  I disagree, however, with the proposed
olution that J.T. suggested, of turning to the ARRL.  There
are several things wrong with that.  Some would equate this
move the same as registering guns. Now the government knows
where the scanners and scannerists are. They can come
and get them any time they want to.  The Turner Diaries
describes what can happen to our society when the government
comes to confiscate guns, and they just as well could be
confiscating radios as well.  They did this in WWII. They
effectively shut down all of the Ham radio Operators for the
duration, and in fact confiscated radios.  Secondly, and more
important is the fact (at least in my mind) that the ARRL is a
bunch of stodgy old timers that are still stuck in the nineteen
thirties.  I equate them with the unions. They wereeffective
n their time, but failed to change in rapidly changing times.
The ARRL shouldhave had some effect on the cellular ban, but
where were they?

I don't consider myself a pessimist, however, in my opinion, the
only answer to this problem is not turning to another  bureaucracy,
but rather a strong letter writing campaign to our Congressmen and
Senators.  I know, they are part of the problem, but if enough
people point out where the votes come from, maybe they will soon
get the idea.


--
Dr Pepper
10 - 2 - 4
Dr Pepper
10 - 2 - 4




From [e-mail] Mon Oct 07 20:36:25 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Donald Gray)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: ** Bullet Prof Vests** For Sale
Date: Sat, 05 Oct 1996 20:11:03 GMT
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Bandit <[e-mail]> wrote:

>FOR SALE :

>State Patrol issue tufflex Lite Weight bullet prof vests in perfect
>shape $125.00 ea. these are the real McCoys. These are made to go under
>the clothing.

I've got an interface and the software for it! Needs a 357mag with a
fine charge of bullseye to get it on the air. Fair makes yer eyes
water though!!!!

::-->>   POW



Donald Gray
Free Agent V1.0 -
Eudora Lite V1.5.4
Please do not short the output or severe damage will be caused to the fuse.
         (On a Sony power supply leaflet!)



From [e-mail] Mon Oct 07 20:36:26 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Bud Jamison)
Date: 05 Oct 96 20:21:20
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: CHP San Diego base freq?  It isn't Orange-B any more
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JHKMS> That's what I thought at first, but as I said before, the traffic on
JHKMS> 42.66 does not seem to correlate with what I hear on 39.4 (having a
JHKMS> scanner on each at the same time).

You have to remember that the mobile units can talk to each OTHER, not always
necessarily to the dispatcher, on the mobile freq.

... No longer a Ghost!


From [e-mail] Mon Oct 07 20:36:27 1996
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From: [e-mail] (spiderman)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Need manual For RS Pro 2005, Can Youu Please Help
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Like it says i need a manual for a Rs Pro 2005.  I would really
appreciate a copy of one.  Thanks.

Bob Johnson
11205 Brushy Glenn Dr.
Austin TX 78754



From [e-mail] Mon Oct 07 20:36:28 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Clint Bradford)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Uniden GMR100 and GMRS
Date: Sun,  6 Oct 1996 02:09:00 GMT
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>>If you want FRS style, special purpose only radios, go with the GMR100
>>or PRS-100/101.

NEITHER can legally operate on the FRS. Only FRS Type-Accepted units can
be used on the FRS - period.


From [e-mail] Mon Oct 07 20:36:29 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Bill Nelson)
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Dan ([e-mail]) wrote:
:
: Look above^^  We are talking about 800mhz scanners.....stay with us now!
: Oh yea.....good concentration here.

I have responded to this thread by e-mail. I doubt if anyone else is
interested.

Bill


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For example, did Atlanta PD finally switch over to 800?  Which system, their
own or the county (Fulton, I think)...??

doug



From [e-mail] Mon Oct 07 20:36:31 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Bill Cheek)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Pro 2004 computer compatible? (Yes--INFO!!)
Date: Sun, 06 Oct 1996 07:46:53 GMT
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[e-mail] (Blue dot 9) wrote:

>In article <325748f2.2166025@192.188.72.23>, [e-mail] (Bill Cheek)
>writes:
>
>>
>>>Please note the previous posts below for proper setup!!   I have proper
>>>information regarding this item!!
>>>
>>>Dave
>>
>>So, why don't you post it, Dave?
>>
>--------------edited for brevity--------------
>>
>>Bill Cheek
>>Scannist Extraordinaire

>I did.  I guess you didn't read far enough, considering that you didn't
>want to hear this news anyway (being that it would affect your CE(hb?- 232
>Kit sales).

Wow.  That is one dumb statement.

You see, I love competition.  The more people who by Optoelectronics
and/or other interfaces, the more who will buy the CE-232.  I can't
afford Opto's merchandising, marketing, shilling,  and touting budget,
so what the hell?  Sooner or later, their market becomes my market.
I'm real patient.

Not that the CE-232 Scanner/Computer Interface is *better* than
Opto's, or vice versa.... frankly, I don't think they step on each
other's turf at all.  The two interfaces do different things.  Some
people prefer one.  Some prefer the other.  Some have both.  Most have
none at all.  Thusly, the more people who buy Opto means the more
market entries.  Out of that bunch will be some who feel the Opto
doesn't do what they want it to do.  That's when the CE-232 knocks on
their door and says, "Hello!".

So I am delighted that you singlehandedly, with great courage and
fearlessness, brought the Opto Interfaces to the PRO-2004.  You should
be awarded a medal.

>I also won $5 (yay!!) on a bet that you would flame my post.  You are so
>predictable.

It would be nice if you could show me what I said to you that
constitutes a "flame"?

Make my day.

Bill Cheek
Scannist Extraordinaire
(Competitor)



From [e-mail] Mon Oct 07 20:36:32 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Bill Cheek)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Electronics Semantics and other subjects
Date: Sun, 06 Oct 1996 08:07:29 GMT
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[e-mail] (Glen Quarnstrom) wrote:

>I called no one any names.  The "jiggle" was a reference to Cheek's
>"technical" description of zero-beating.

You have a problem with that?  Then why don't YOU provide helpful
posts here and use the terminology that suits YOU?

>My beef with Cheeks has nothing to do with any ongoing flame wars

SO what is your beef?  You have been unfriendly and antagonistic to me
from long before you appeared here.....starting back in FidoNet where
you were in the attack mode from the git-go......

> He's right most of the time, but when he's wrong, he won't back off, and
>then the fights start.

This is going to be hard for you to understand, but after 33 years in
electronics & radio engineering and technology, it will be a rare case
where I say something that is out and out *wrong*.  For one thing, I
"tailor" what I say to whom it is said.  A lot of my writing is
directed NOT to the guy who already knows.....rather, to the guy who
doesn't know.

Take "zero beating" fer instance.  That means nothing except to an old
time radioist.  The term is elusive, vague, and indefinite.  I used
the term "jiggle" to describe more succinctly what one's eyes and ears
actually detect in the process.  After a neophyte becomes comfortable
with the effects and results of synchronizing and phasing two similar
signals, then he can he told of the "insider" term, zero beating, or
better still, heterodyning.

You tried to argue TV antennas with me, if I recall.  No, I will not
back down from that one, because I have TESTED and used TV antennas
mounted in the vertical plane for scanners for the last 25 years.
There is nothing from which to back down on that score.  I *know* they
work......and are a cost effective alternative to the very expensive
and probably inferior log periodics.

Got anything else you want to test me on, Mr. Quarnstrom?  If not,
then let's get back to scanners and scanning......though I do take
note that you have NOT posted anything of use to the forum (yet).  So
far, you've played the same personal agenda here that you started with
me on FidoNet.

So quit talking shit and get down and TEST ME.  Or let's all get down
on scanners and scanning and leave each other the hell alone.

Or does that not fit your agenda?

Bill Cheek
Scannist Extraordinaire
(Protagonist)



From [e-mail] Mon Oct 07 20:36:33 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Bill Cheek)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Mods For Radio Shack Scanner Mod#2042
Date: Sun, 06 Oct 1996 08:11:11 GMT
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[e-mail] (Chuck Slaten) wrote:

>Does anyone have the Mods for the New Radio Shack 2042 Scanner.
>If so please leave a reply..Thanks de KB8PDR

"The" mods?  Which "ones" do you mean?  Cellular?  Not possible.
What else?




From [e-mail] Mon Oct 07 20:36:34 1996
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In article <[e-mail]>,
[e-mail] writes
>Finally, I am looking for a design of a loop antenna similar to the
>KIWA MW loop. Unfortunately, I can't possibly afford the 350 UKP price
>of the KIWA, much as I would like to buy it, so building a similar
>design(balanced loop with DG Mosfet amplifier and bandwidth control)
>is the only alternative. Has anyone built a design by GF Maynard
>called the "WQ medium wave loop". This appeared in the UK "Shortwave
>magazine" in November 1986, and looks very impressive. However, the
>construction is VERY complex, so I would like to gather any opinions
>before starting on the project myself.
>
Joe, Graham Maynard has several ready made loop antenna design's and
builds them to customer preferences.

For info on these and other loop items, contact....

[e-mail]

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From [e-mail] Mon Oct 07 20:36:35 1996
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From: [e-mail]
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: search the name of a scanner
Date: Sun, 06 Oct 1996 12:00:22 GMT
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i search a base scanner from realistic , and i missed the name

i remember he have 1000 memories ( i have see it in a french book in
april or later i don t know)

please say me what is the best scanner ( base scanner ) , i need only
am fm wfm , and the price in USA ( just for info , here it is not the
same : price x2 )

thanks for all
|--------------------|
|[e-mail] |
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From [e-mail] Mon Oct 07 20:36:37 1996
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From: SKYHAWK <[e-mail]>
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Subject: PRO-2035/62 FS OR TRADE
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PRO-2035 ......MINT CONDITION   $275 OR TRADE
PRO-62.........MINT CONDITION   $225 OR TRADE


From [e-mail] Mon Oct 07 20:36:38 1996
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From: "Robert H. Eisner" <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: Cordless phone advice sought
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To: Mike Staples <[e-mail]>

Mike Staples wrote:
>
> I'd like to get suggestions for a good 'secure' cordless phone.
> Just being digital would probably be good enough for my use but
> if there are affordable units out there that actually encrypt, I
> would be interested in those as well.  Actual model and features
> to look for is what I'm interested in.  I just bought a GE 900 Mhz
> that claimed security but my 2006 disagrees, it's just a 900 Mhz
> analog unit.
>
>                                           Thanks!

Radio Shack 900 Mhz Spread Spectrum Cordless Telephone (model ET-904).

It can't be monitored!

Bob


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From: "Perry T. Boulter" <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: I can find any Freqs you need
Date: 6 Oct 1996 19:09:21 GMT
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Anyone with Radio Shack Pro-2032  200channel unit: can the freq.s be
modified
for additional reception? Also looking for a good antenna sugestion>




From [e-mail] Mon Oct 07 20:36:40 1996
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Eric Becker wrote:
>
> just about to get a 400 channel 800 and 900 mhz scanner with a whole bunch o
f
> other stuff and it said to see if it was legal to have in a car and was
> wondering if anyone knew anything about this?
>
> [e-mail]

I have had one attached to the dash of the car for years, and run all
over that area and have never had a problem. As far as I know there are
no restrictions on using a handheld or mobile scanner in the car{except
for tuning cell freqs). You could check at the  local police station.

Happy Scanning

Mickey Hill


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From: [e-mail] (Ron Hauger)
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Date: Mon,  7 Oct 1996 01:50:00 GMT
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 On 10-06-96 BARRY, WA2KLS wrote to ALL...

 BW> And the exodus continues. . .
 BW> Wow, sorry, I kind of got carried away. I didn't mean to use up this
 BW> much bandwidth. But I needed to address the issue. My way.

        Wait until you discover satellite tv.

 [e-mail]*KC4KNA*VBARC*AMSAT*RTTY*PACKET*SWL*ATV
 HF+VHF WEFAX*TVRO*SCPC*FM2*EXTRATERRESTRIAL*WATCHEROFTHESKIES

---
 * OFFLINE 1.58


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John Mackey KA0SSF <[e-mail]> writes:



>Better yet, why not use RG-213.  It is only slightly more expensive
>than RG-8 & is UV resistant so it will last years & years.  The life
>of RG-8, due to the UV problem, is only 2-3 years.


I don't know where you live, or what the sun is like
there, but I have used the common coax available at
hamfests, discount stores, and radio shack for years
and never experienced such rapid degradation. In
fact the only problems I've had were with a couple
of inadequately weatherproofed connections.


rw


From [e-mail] Mon Oct 07 20:36:42 1996
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From: TEX <[e-mail]>
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Subject: REQ pro 2037 Mods.?
Date: Sun, 06 Oct 1996 19:51:43 -0700
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Somebody know pro 2037 mods? Please E-Mail me



       Tanks


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From: "E. Scott Sykes" <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: Mods For Radio Shack Scanner Mod#2042
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Bill Cheek wrote:
>
> [e-mail] (Chuck Slaten) wrote:
>
> >Does anyone have the Mods for the New Radio Shack 2042 Scanner.
> >If so please leave a reply..Thanks de KB8PDR
>
> "The" mods?  Which "ones" do you mean?  Cellular?  Not possible.
> What else?

Optoelectronics OS535 is a MOD and will allow cellular when computer
controlled.

Scott


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R. Wiley <[e-mail]> wrote in article =
<[e-mail]>...
> John Mackey KA0SSF <[e-mail]> writes:
>=20
> >Better yet, why not use RG-213.  It is only slightly more expensive
> >than RG-8 & is UV resistant so it will last years & years.  The life
> >of RG-8, due to the UV problem, is only 2-3 years.
>=20
> I don't know where you live, or what the sun is like=20
> there, but I have used the common coax available at=20
> hamfests, discount stores, and radio shack for years
> and never experienced such rapid degradation. In
> fact the only problems I've had were with a couple
> of inadequately weatherproofed connections.

There lies the source of the old wives tale that you must
replace your coax every few years. I have used RG-8,
RG-58, RG-59, RG-6 RG-213 and a few others. The only failure=20
I have ever had is when the connector was not properly
sealed and caused water contamination. I have some
RG-8 that is over 10 years old and still shows the same
SWR and impedance resistance it did at install. Same
with the RG-6 though it is only 8 years old.=20


Glenn


From [e-mail] Mon Oct 07 20:36:47 1996
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From: "E. Scott Sykes" <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: Pro 2004 computer compatible? (Yes--INFO!!)
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Bill Cheek wrote:
>That's when the CE-232 knocks on
> their door and says, "Hello!".

Has anyone produced a windows based program for the HB(CE)232?

What is the latest version of the controlling program?

> So I am delighted that you singlehandedly, with great courage and
> fearlessness, brought the Opto Interfaces to the PRO-2004.  You should
> be awarded a medal.

Medal Awarded!!!

> Bill Cheek
> Scannist Extraordinaire
> (Competitor)

Do not compete, enhance. An OS456 and a CE(HB)232 make a good pair!

Scott


From [e-mail] Mon Oct 07 20:36:48 1996
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Don Hayes wrote:

> Let's throw these two white trash Arkansas thieves the hell out and back to
the trailer park they came from in Arkansas.

It couldn't be said better.


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From: "E. Scott Sykes" <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: Uniden GMR100 and GMRS
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Steve S wrote:
>
> In <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Clint
> Bradford) writes:
> >
> >
> >>>If you want FRS style, special purpose only radios, go with the
> GMR100
> >>>or PRS-100/101.
> >
> >NEITHER can legally operate on the FRS. Only FRS Type-Accepted units
> can
> >be used on the FRS - period.
>
> And that is "EXACTLY" why I used the term "FRS style" not FRS!  I'm
> sure Clint was about to list the technical differences between GMRS and
> FRS radios like integral antennas, narrower bandwidth, and lower power
> but he just didn't get around to it.
>
> Steve S.
> KAF8111


I believe that FRS & GMRS use some of the same frequencies, it blows
that theory.

Scott


From [e-mail] Mon Oct 07 20:36:49 1996
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Subject: Re: Cordless phone advice sought
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Robert H. Eisner wrote:
>
> Mike Staples wrote:
> >
> > I'd like to get suggestions for a good 'secure' cordless phone.
> > Just being digital would probably be good enough for my use but
> > if there are affordable units out there that actually encrypt, I
> > would be interested in those as well.  Actual model and features
> > to look for is what I'm interested in.  I just bought a GE 900 Mhz
> > that claimed security but my 2006 disagrees, it's just a 900 Mhz
> > analog unit.
> >
> >                                           Thanks!
>
> Radio Shack 900 Mhz Spread Spectrum Cordless Telephone (model ET-904).
>
> It can't be monitored!
>
> Bob

Get your algorithms, algorithms for sale...


From [e-mail] Mon Oct 07 20:36:50 1996
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From: Antonio D Robinson  <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: 2006 Interfaces
Date: Mon, 07 Oct 1996 04:03:48 GMT
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In article <[e-mail]>,
        "E. Scott Sykes" <[e-mail]> wrote:

>MaD MaX wrote:
>>
>> What are the best computer interfaces for the 2006? also, what are the pric
e
>> ranges?
>
>Try this:
>
>The Monitoring Post "The Pro-2006 Home Page"
>http://homeptd.net/~pro2006/#Hardware
>
>Good starting point would be CE232, World Class Optoelectronics OS456!
>
>Scott

 Is this address correct?


From [e-mail] Mon Oct 07 20:36:51 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Jason Low)
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>: >   I have had several devices capable of  monitoring cellular calls and
>: > have listened to maybe 3 or 4 before becoming tired of it.
>: >   If a scanner will or will not recieve cellular has absolutely nothing
>: > to do with my decision to buy.
>: >   Am I alone in that I have no interest in listening to cellular?

Hear, hear. I find the cell images annoying on my radio, especially since
I work practically underneath a cell tower and it overloads on my FD's
866.x mhz frequencies.

I occasionally wonder if the same scenario (cell freq freaks) would play
out if it were fast food outlets that were illegal to listen to. Can you
imagine the number of people who were looking for mods to unblock the
30.8x freqs in their scanner, or finding some way to circumvent the 30
mhz block, or buying an 'old' scanner that can pick up drive-thrus.

I feel safe in that 99.998% of my cellphone calls (or even landline
calls) would bore someone completely to death. I can't imagine someone
wanting to hear any of the following, which summarizes the total of my
cell transmissions this past weekend:

"I'm at Blockbuster. Have you guys seen Mystery Science Theater 3000 yet?"

"I was talking with Peter today and he says we have the defib unit now,
so I'm going to be stopping by the hall before I get home."

"If I grabbed a pizza on the way home, would you guys eat it?"

"How many rolls of film will you need me to pick up, and do you need
batteries?"

Man, come to think of it, now I understand why you find it absolutely
necessary to listen to cell calls. Maybe you could buy out all but the
most expensive batteries in every 7-11 in my path so that I have to feed
Duracell some more money. Yeah, that's it.. now I see why it's so crucial
for you to hear people's inane phone conversations.

..J.    [e-mail]


From [e-mail] Mon Oct 07 20:36:52 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Eric Oyen)
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Subject: Re: Credentials
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[e-mail](BAYCITVIDGRP) wrote:

>    He's been sitting on it for so long now...
>     quite possibly he's going to have to get
>     help to get his brain some air by being
>     shown how to stand up.
Good one! I think I noticed the Cranial/rectal inversion problem there myself.
..

I just hope it doesn't cause too many problems..... Ah well. Meanwhile, I am w
orking on a
design that will filter 100% of the noise I get on my scanner. Then I might be
 able to
hear those weak signals...







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John Mackey KA0SSF <[e-mail]> wrote:

>IF you feel I started this then you OBVIOUSLY have NOT followed these
>threads to know what the hell is really going on.  How do you
>explain Bill Cheek's behavior, or do you even know what he has been
>up to?

Oh, he finnaly speaks upon me. I feel honored (NOT!).

I hate to say this, johnny boy, but I have followed these threads with somwhat
 more
diligence than you seem able to muster. I am very aware of what has been going
 on in this
newsgroup, and you seem to be 99% of the problem. How is it that you can post
120 times in
the course of a month and yet, bell only posted about 30 times? How is it that
 you take
cause to insult every word/phrase that is spoken in reference to mr. Cheek? Wh
y do you
persist in such inane arguements to no real purpose? Have you figured out why
you get
neaaged all the time? Before you judge others, you have better take a long, ha
rd look at
the guy in the mirror.






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From: [e-mail] (HH357)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Secrets in the OS-535 hardware -pro 2035 & 2042
Date: 7 Oct 1996 05:33:52 -0400
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When the OS 535 first came out, and was reviewed by various magazines, it
was noted that there were at least two mysteries.  Both involved  daughter
board connections on the OS board.

These spots were labelled Cellular Key, and Digital Data (?).  What has
come of this?   Has anyone figured out what, or how they work?

Is there any connection between the Cellular Key position and the well
publicised 20 digit code that enables cellular reception?  I doubt it, but
who knows.

With the proliferation of digital radio, maybe this "feature? " would be
useful.

Your responses will be appreciated.
                                             cheers


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From: [e-mail] (D Stark)
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In article <[e-mail]>, Porchnoy <[e-mail]> wr
ote:

>        familar with my topic.  If you were, you would
>        know that the minute the ARRL drops its support
>        of the Morse code requirement, the rest of the
>        world will follow, and we can make amateur radio
>        what it should be:  a means for all the people
>        of the world to communicate in friendship.

        You can't be familiar with your topic because
obviously you have never tried to listen to 20-meter or
75-meter phone!  Cussing, chasing other people off the
frequency with catcalls, playing endless loop recordings of
the last few words somebody said on the air, etc, etc, etc
are not MY idea of "communicate in friendship"!  Is that
your dream for the future of ham radio?

        (Others have already pointed out that only people
who have passed a code test are on those bands.) Now take a
look at 2 meters in many metro areas. No Morse requirement
there, yet the same kind of crap is growing on VHF. The code
requirement has nothing to do with the amoral conditions
that are growing in amateur radio - along with the rest of
society.

73 de Dave, NF2G


From [e-mail] Mon Oct 07 20:36:57 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Kevin Kibbe)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: NOAA 137 MHz Reception and Decoding
Date: Mon, 07 Oct 1996 16:49:39 GMT
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Thanks for the NOAA info I have downloaded the jvfax program and it
look very good indeed. I will start to build the interface this week.

For Freqs you will want to try 137.50 137.4000 137.7700 136.7700
137.8500 and get a copy of the satellite tracking software called:
STSPLUS look for a file called SOP9637a.zip You will need that to help

find the satellite. Or just scan the above freqs and you will hear
after some time the chir;s.

                                Kevin




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From: [e-mail] (Bill Cheek)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Pro 2004 display problem
Date: Mon, 07 Oct 1996 16:55:13 GMT
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Daniel Mark <[e-mail]> wrote:

>My Realistic 2004 scanner display is scrambled after start-up.
>Functions are, however, unaffected.
>After I press reset button on back of scanner, all is back to normal
>until I shut off and restart. Then the problem repeats itself. Any
>permanent solution to this annoying problem??

One of the more likely scenarios is that one or more solder joints on
the Logic/CPU board are going defective.  You could try resoldering
some of them in the vicinity of the CX-501 clock resonator and see
if that does it.........  Otherwise, see the below excerpt from my
FAQ for a broader view of what you might be dealing with.

Bill

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============[ From the FAQ - copyrighted 1996] ===============

034: My PRO-2004 has problems, first mild and now severe.  It
     has been repaired several times.  Can you fix it?

    There is a distinct possibility this PRO-2004 has problems
    with defective solder joints.  Back in 1986, there was a
    production run of the PRO-2004 manufactured with a defective
    wave soldering machine.  At first, it was only marginally
    defective, but it worsened and degraded with time.

    The result, by the time the malfunctioning machine was
    discovered, was that many defective PRO-2004's had been shipped
    to market.  Some immediately failed within the warranty period
    and were repaired or replaced.  Others didn't fail until after
    the warranty expired, and were either repaired or junked.  Some
    didn't fail for years.........

    Failures appear to come in waves.....periodic rashes.  Defective
    solder joints are a serious problem, because the radio can be
    fixed only to the extent that it is broken.  Repaired solder
    joints today have no bearing or relationship to those headed for
    failure in a week, a month, or a year.  There is no economical
    way to repair them all in one fell swoop.  A PRO-2004 with
    defective solder joints is very likely to develop more problems
    with the passing of time.  There can be no guarantees against
    subsequent related or unrelated failures.

    With that in mind, I do such repairs, but I cannot guarantee
    that other failures won't occur.  Costs of repair can be high,
    and I would estimate the first repair tag to be $100 plus return
    shipping. I know, it's a bum deal, but I can't do any better than
    that except to offer to buy the unit for my repair parts bin.

    I pay $25 plus shipping for defective PRO-2004's in reasonably
    clean condition.  (No basket cases....)  You might consider this
    as an alternative to continued repair bills.

==============================================================



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"Patrick D. Lukens" <[e-mail]> wrote:

>Danny Allen wrote:
>>  I saw an article in an internet newsgroup telling me
>>  I could make $50,000 within a month for an investment of only $5.
>>
>>          1. Linda Lapierre,  PO BOX XXXXXXXXXX
               1a.  Micky Harcourt PO Box  234  New York  NY2346
>>          2. Oleg Gorbik, XXXXXXXXXX
>>          3. Christo van Zyl, XXXXXXXXXXXX
>>          4. Dan Allen, 419 Oley St., Reading PA 19601.
>>          5. Ruth Ragan, XXXXX
>>
>>  2) Put your name as
>>  the fifth one on the list.

>Gees, not only did this guy fall for a pyramid scheme, he's *CHEATING* at
>it, too!


>--
>--Patrick




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From: Carl Jansson <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: PRO-51 Local oscillator?
Date: Mon, 07 Oct 1996 13:44:53 -0500
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Scared Poet wrote:
>
>         Anyone have the freq of the local oscillator on the RS PRO-51
> scanner?
>
>         Thanks,

10.8 MHz an 450 kHz


From [e-mail] Mon Oct 07 20:37:02 1996
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From: John Mackey KA0SSF <[e-mail]>
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> > [e-mail] (DHickey389) wrote:
> > >Can anyone advise me on the choice of an outside antenna.  I  have
> > >narrowed it down to a D130j discone or an Scantenna from Antennacraft.  I
> > >live in northwest suburban Chicago, have a pro 2004 and enjoy scaning air
,
> > >public safety and ham frequencies.  I'm mainly concerned about inter-mod
> > >from adjacent channels.  Thanks in advance for your help.


Hell, talk to Bill Cheek.  He'll tell you how to use a
tv antenna turned vertical & get 10 db gain @ 25 MHz.




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From: John Mackey KA0SSF <[e-mail]>
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Bill Cheek wrote:

> He's so fond of accusations of lack of candor.  But never mind that I
> succinctly told the imbecile that my license number was in the upper
> right corner of the certificate.  He misconstrues anything you say to

Ok Bill then WHAT is your license number AND the expiration date
on your FCC commercial license?


> But then what do you expect of a hospital bedpan changer?  Lack of
> candor among other things.

If you are so full of candor then how do you explain your little stories
about me having kids that are bedwetters (I don't have kids), &
your little stories about PJB being on prozac, & your story about
me being a hospital bedpan changer?




From [e-mail] Mon Oct 07 20:37:04 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Mark Krubsack)
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Subject: Re: Mods for Pro-2037 Scanner
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 On Thu, 03 Oct 1996 19:19:26 GMT, [e-mail] (Kevin Kibbe) wrote:

>Has anyone attempted to modify in anyway the RS Pro-2037 Scanner?
>
>I have just ordered the "service manual" that i hope has schematics
>and will soon try such things as adding more memory channels. I should
>not have any problem doing that if the memory chip is separate and
>identifiable... If it is part of the CPU then I'm cooked. I will also
>try the so called vertual down conversion method of getting the cell
>band to work but that will leave me with 12.5khz steps I would think.

I also have this radio.  Let me know what you come up with.



 +------------------------------+
 |        Mark Krubsack         |
 |------------------------------|  To Know, To Dare, To Keep Silence.
 | e-mail: [e-mail] |
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From [e-mail] Mon Oct 07 20:37:05 1996
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From: "Jason J. Garcφa" <[e-mail]>
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Subject: R.S. Pro-2046 Mobile Scanner
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Colleague hobbyists,

I posted this same message two days ago and NOBODY answered anything! A
visit to the Monitoring Times' WWW site didn't help much: the reviews
posted are those for the month of September. Did you receive MT already?
I haven't received yet! Please drop me an Email line on the subject if
you don't mind to help. I'll sure appreciate it! Here it goes again:

I'm still waiting for the arrival of the 10/96 issue of Monitoring Times
here in CA to read Bob Parnass' review on the 2046! What did he say
about it?!!! I had in mind to purchase the scanner this weekend if it
was really worth it, but wanted to read the news first. Did Bob compare
it to the previous Pro-2026? What's briefly the final recommendation?

I would appreciate newsgroup postings or direct Email on the subject
from people on the East coast or the Midwest who already received MT or
have some "personal" knowledge regarding the 2046's performance rating.

Thank you.

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From [e-mail] Sat Oct 12 12:03:27 1996
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Subject: Re: ** Bullet Prof Vests** For Sale
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> I also am skeptical.  I wear a Level II  at work and I know it cost me
> $400.00 with the shock plate.
>
> Also, everyone should know there is no such thing as a "Bullet Proof
> Vest".  They are merely "bullet resistent", so don't put on one and
> think that you are Superman and nothing will harm you.

Maybe the vests are to repel rubber bullets. <g>



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From: [e-mail](Gene Kelley)
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Subject: Re: ** Bullet Prof Vests** For Sale
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In <532vc2$[e-mail]> [e-mail]
writes:
>
>Do I need one of these when I listen to my scanner??????????????????

You do if you listen to your scanner in Miami, Los Angeles, or
Washington DC.



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In <5353ct$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (FishFotoJr)
writes:
>
>Just as an aside, most Threat Level II (standard PD issue , some
>departments do vary from level I through IIIA) run about $320-$360 a
>piece, I am not sure what you are selling, but I am skeptical.  I have
2
>vests, one was bought used from an NYC*EMS EMT for about $140, but it
is
>about $320 new, and I have  Threat Level III A vest that I purchased
for
>about $440, with shock plate at another $45.
>
>No I do not need this when scanning at home, but I wear a vest most of
the
>time scanning in the car on the way to work, ie: news photography.
>
>What state are these vests issue?  State PDs can buy them at discount
do
>to the volume, are you involved with the PD and managed to walk off
with
>the vests?  Are the panels certified, and serial numbered?  What is
the
>make?  Point Blank? Gall's/Gall's Lite? Magnum? Safariland???
>
>Anyone else a tad skeptical?
>
>Steven E. Frischling
>Freelance News Photographer
>Police Department City of New York Working Press #0067
>City of SanJose Police Department Working Press PS53796
>
>
>Steven E. Frischling
>Freelance News Photographer
>NYPD Working Press #0067
>
>Too young to be respected; Too old to not be taken seriously;
INVINCIBLE!;
>Fear was just a word in the dictionary; Life was a right, not a gift;
>Death was only a concept; STRENGTH!--Nikon F4s ad 1992
>
I also am skeptical.  I wear a Level II  at work and I know it cost me
$400.00 with the shock plate.

Also, everyone should know there is no such thing as a "Bullet Proof
Vest".  They are merely "bullet resistent", so don't put on one and
think that you are Superman and nothing will harm you.



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From: "David A. Lovell" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: **** Need info for Bearcat III ****
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
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Steve Olmstead wrote:
>
> Hello to all.....
>
> I have recently acquired a Bearcat scanner model  BC III LH  manufactured
> in 1978 by the Electra Co.  I am in need of a power supply cord that plugs
> in the back of the scanner.  I am also interested in the schematics for
> this particular unit.  If you have any of these items available, or know of
> another place that I could find them please leave an E-mail message to my
> address listed below.
>
> Thanks for reading this message....
>
> Steve Olmstead       **KC8ATK**
> Fostoria, Ohio  USA
> [e-mail]

Hi Steve:
I have BC III LH power cords for $5 each.  I also can provide owner's
manual including schematic for $11.
Hope this helps.
Best Wishes,
David A. Lovell, RF Eng., Owner, Electra Corp.
251 N. 300 W. Greenfield, IN  46140   317 326-4419




From [e-mail] Sat Oct 12 12:03:31 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Dr Pepper)
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Subject: Re: 2006
Date: Sun, 06 Oct 1996 16:12:14 GMT
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[e-mail] (MaD MaX) wrote:

>I have yet to find a web site with a lot of pro-2006 mods and add ons.. can
>someone e-mail, or post the smeter mod?  All the web pages seem to have are
>cell restoration =( even the 'official pro-2006 sites"

There is a dedicated PRO-2006 website, but I lost the bookmark.  Do a
Web search for "PRO-2006" and you should find it  :-}

Dr Pepper
10 - 2 - 4




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Date: Mon, 07 Oct 1996 15:16:23 -0400
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Dr Pepper wrote:
> There is a dedicated PRO-2006 website, but I lost the bookmark.  Do a
> Web search for "PRO-2006" and you should find it
        Wow! Great advice! I wouldn't have
        thought of that!


From [e-mail] Sat Oct 12 12:03:33 1996
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Subject: Re: 25 Cordless Freqs?
Date: Thu, 10 Oct 1996 20:58:50 -0400
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Abe Collins wrote:
>
> Anyone have a list of the 25 cordless
> phone channel frequencies?  Thanks.
>
> [e-mail]


Here ya go......

Cordless Telephone

       Channel    Base     Handset

         1       43.72     48.76
         2       43.74     48.84
         3       43.82     48.86
         4       43.84     48.92
         5       43.92     49.02              Ch 5 Handset was in
         6       43.96     49.08              error in the original
         7       44.12     49.10              FCC notice.
         8       44.16     49.16
         9       44.18     49.20
        10       44.20     49.24
        11       44.32     49.28
        12       44.36     49.36
        13       44.40     49.40
        14       44.46     49.46
        15       44.48     49.50
       ---------------------------
        16       46.61     49.67
        17  B    46.63     49.845             Chs A - E handset
        18  C    46.67     49.86              frequencies are also
        19       46.71     49.77              used for baby room
        20  D    46.73     49.875             monitors and low power
        21  A    46.77     49.83              handie-talkies
        22  E    46.83     49.89
        23       46.87     49.93
        24       46.93     49.99
        25       46.97     49.97

        Effective 05 June 95, an additional 15 channels are
    authorized and the original 10 channels are renumbered 16-25.


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For sale pro 2032 scanner 200 Channels with Cellular mod ,hyper scan &
Mobil ant, Im in so Calif. E-Mail to   [e-mail]


From [e-mail] Sat Oct 12 12:03:35 1996
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From: Ken Koller <[e-mail]>
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Listening tonight to the CHP's Freeway Vandalism Task Force on Blue
42.340. Heard something I don't understand.

Dispatch: "S2, L.A., I checked on the high band, no repsonse, closest
victor unit is coming from Coldwater and the 101."

What is the "High Band"? Never heard of it before.


Ken Koller

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From [e-mail] Sat Oct 12 12:03:36 1996
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From: Keith Stein <[e-mail]>
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Hi Don,

Air Force 1 is the Presidents 747 aircraft.

Marine 1 is the Presidents helicopter when he is aboard. But they also
use Nighthawk 1 when he is NOT aboard.

I've never heard them use Army 1.


Keith Stein
Woodbridge, VA
http://www.newspace.com/casr




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In <5399ec$[e-mail]> Keith Stein <[e-mail]>
writes:
>Hi Don,
>Air Force 1 is the Presidents 747 aircraft.

No. I believe it was said before that ANY plane the president is on is
AF1, not just his VC-25.

>Marine 1 is the Presidents helicopter when he is aboard. But they also
>use Nighthawk 1 when he is NOT aboard.
>
>I've never heard them use Army 1.

That's being reserved for a "Micheal Dukakis" style ride in an M-1
Abrams.....  ;o)

Steve S.
KAF8111


From [e-mail] Sat Oct 12 12:03:37 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Bowiemaker)
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I have an AR 1000 pe-ban for sale. Won't last at $300! Pls e-mail me.


From [e-mail] Sat Oct 12 12:03:38 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Lindsay Reid)
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Can anyone tell me what resolution of signal strength is available via
RS232 on the AR5000. I believe the AR3000A sends a letter
(A to P) to indicate one of 16 signal strengths as the answer to a
"Y" command. Is the resolution better than 16 on the AR5000?
Lindsay Reid - West Midlands - UK


From [e-mail] Sat Oct 12 12:03:39 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Lindsay Reid)
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Has anyone any views on the "better" of these two. I know there are a
lot of factors that make one "better" than another - some are personal
preferences - but views would be appreciated. Technically, the AOR
seems to have better specs but two UK dealers have told me that the
Icom performs better than the AOR.


Lindsay Reid - West Midlands - UK7
Lindsay Reid - West Midlands - UK


From [e-mail] Sat Oct 12 12:03:40 1996
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From: [e-mail] (NYO41ed)
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Has anyone called Metrowest? I think I will call them today. I don't even
get five hours out of my BC-3000.


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From: [e-mail] (Tony White)
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Subject: BC 760XLT operators manual needed!
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If you have one, I'll buy it or pay for a copy of it!

Also, if you have a 760XLT that you're interested in selling, let me know.
I'm interested in acquiring another if the price is right.

Reply email, please.  Thanks.



From [e-mail] Sat Oct 12 12:03:42 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Evan Platt)
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Check out http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/5019/9000.html
But here they are.
---
When you hold down the 2 + 9 + DELAY keys as you turn the 9000xlt on
you enter a sort of Test mode. To do a
Keycheck test you can hit any key or turn the VFO knob either
direction and the alpha display will tell you
what key you're touching or which direction you're turning the VFO
knob.



At this point if you momentarily hit LOCK (to the right of the VFO
knob) and one other button various things
will happen.

2+9+SCAN held while turning power on will clear all memories and load
in test frequencies

2+9+MANUEL while turning power on will clear all memories to
000.0000mhz

LOCK & C Replaces all memories with 1300mhz and alpha taga channels
1-250 with Channels 00-249 in the
display. AGAIN WIPES ALL MEMORIES!

LOCK & D Checksum and Firmware version number (v.09 in all 9000xlt's
to date)

LOCK & E LCD Display test

LOCK & PROG Runs a short, repeating Demo Program incorporated
specifically for showing at the January
1995 CES in Las Vegas. It also sounds alttention tones as the message
scrolls on the display. (Note that the
word "Scanner" is spelled "Scaner" in the demo program; it was too
late to change this mistake that
originated in Japan.)

2+9+ATT held while turning power on will set the unit into a turbo
search test mode. (requires a Signal
Generator)


           The first 3 tricks will WIPE OUT THE SCANNERS MEMORY!, the
last 4 won't


                            ADDITIONAL NOTES

No reason available on why the FM filtering is narrower (ie less HiFi)
than the BC8500XLT during quiet
periods. There was an improvement in the circuit, but this means a bit
of hiss when no transmissions are
coming through.

All BC9000xlt's (whether built in 1994 - serial numbers 45+ , or in
1995 - serial numbers 55+ have firmware
version 0.09. All have AM mode available on any frequency the scanner
is capable of.




              A TIP FROM BOB PARNASS (MONITORING TIMES)

You can use the SND button during a Search as a sort of Radio
Shack-type MON button, transferring a freq to
any bank you'd like to become your "Monitor" bank. With RS Scanners,
you have to go through extra steps to
transfer the memories from monitor channels to permanent channels.




"Philip J. Smith" <[e-mail]> wrote:

>What keypad tricks are there for the BC9000? I want to replace my BC890
>with a 9000.
>
>BTW, if anyone is looking for a BC890 w/ tone board, it's for sale.
>
>[e-mail]
>



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I just purchased one Bearcat SC150 sport, and was wondering if anyone
could tell me of any mods for it. I have surfed the net and found none
for the SC150. I am particularly looking for a cell mod, but unable to
find one. Is it possible at all? I hope so, or have they just not
figured it out yet? By the way, how old is this scanner? Is it a
relatively new scanner? Thanks.

Gord.

P.S.
Please don't reply to this address, reach me at [e-mail], or just
post any comments. Thanks.


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John Mackey KA0SSF <[e-mail]> wrote:





>> Most good professionals know that they do not know everything about their p
rofession. This
>> is why they join groups like the International Electrical & Electronics Eng
ineering union
>> (IEEE). I don't even feel that you considered this at all.

>Since I make my professional career in communications, & I really *DO*
>have
>the license & degree (similar) that Bill claims to have, I am aware
>of & have considered your suggestion.


First of all......  I had not wanted to get involved, but this
bullshit has gone on long enough.

You have a Commercial Radiotelephone operating license.  So do many
others, in fact my 12 year old son has repeatedly passed the practice
test.  SO WHAT?  Any trained monkey can take, and pass the GROL,
it is a very dummied down test.

It has so little bearing on Two way now a days, as it is not requred
by the FCC anymore!

And what degree do you claim to have?

You have asked Bill Cheek all these questions, surely you will be man
enough to answer them first!

You have mentioned MANY times to me in FIDO netmail that you have
attended NUMEROUS Motorola training schools, yet you refuse to name
ANY of them, or name ANY of the instructors!

I doubt you could even tell me where the school is!  Specifically,
now, and describe the surroundings....


While you are at it, explain why NONE of the Two way shop owners or
managers in your area know who you are, when you claim to have all
sorts of experince in the field?

And just what is your career in Communications?  Janitorial for a
modem manufacturer?

Seeing as you have been so quick to question others, share with us a
little about yourself John!

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TO THE NUMEROUS THAT HAVE SENT ME EMAIL ABOUT THE FAMOUS JOHN MACKEY
JR POST ON FIDO  "OOPS, I BLEW UP A HAM REPEATER" SEND ME YOUR ADDRESS
AGAIN, I WILL SEND YOU COPIES OF THAT, COPIES OF OTHER STUPIDITY HE
HAS POSTED, AND OF COURSE, THE SPIN MANY HAVE ON HIS VOTING FOR
HIMSELF ON THE FIDO CB RADIO ECHO FOR MODERATOR, USING A ALIAS FROM
ANOTHER BBS!!!!!

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From [e-mail] Sat Oct 12 12:03:45 1996
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From: "Barry Burke Jr." <[e-mail]>
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Date: Thu, 10 Oct 1996 16:28:57 -0700
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Phil wrote:
>
> I have a couple of Bc 200 XLT radios that have given me many thrills
> over the years at the Winston Cup races. A nasty and recurring problem
> however, is bleed over from the satellite feed of the radio and TV
> broadcasters. Can anybody give me some mods worth passing on to my tech,
> that could possibly moderate this problem? Thanks


I use the same radio, with the same problem.  The way I solved it was simply n
ot using ANY antenna.

The radio seems to be sensitive enough w/ no antenna to pick up just about eve
ry thing, but with NO overload
problem.

This worked for me at both New Hampshire (1 mile) and Pocono (2.5 mile) and I
had no problem hearing both
sides of just about everything.



Barry


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I have a couple of Bc 200 XLT radios that have given me many thrills
over the years at the Winston Cup races. A nasty and recurring problem
however, is bleed over from the satellite feed of the radio and TV
broadcasters. Can anybody give me some mods worth passing on to my tech,
that could possibly moderate this problem? Thanks

                                                Phil Reese,
                                                Scannist Mediocre


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From: [e-mail] (m. mattson)
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"Victoria Baker" <[e-mail]> wrote:

>Can you put scanner crystals in a CB and monitor them?
>Roger

If you mean as in VHF/UHF, no.


Mark

The truth as I perceive it to be.
Your perception will be different.




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From: [e-mail] (Dwayne S. Byrd)
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On 7 Oct 1996 01:43:55 GMT, "Victoria Baker" <[e-mail]>
wrote:

>Can you put scanner crystals in a CB and monitor them?
>Roger

No.



From [e-mail] Sat Oct 12 12:03:48 1996
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From: [e-mail] (T. Mooney)
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Subject: Re: CB as a monitor?
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"Victoria Baker" <[e-mail]> wrote:

>Can you put scanner crystals in a CB and monitor them?
>Roger

you know what? I do not think you can.. just imagine if you could
actually do this? you would have people transmitting on police, fire
and ambulance frequencies ever minute..It would be total chaos!



From [e-mail] Sat Oct 12 12:03:49 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Rich & Katy Mulvey)
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On Sat, 05 Oct 1996 00:32:15 -0700, Dan <[e-mail]> wrote:
>Good for you! Just count the request for (800mhz) mods on the scanner
>newsgroups. It speaks for its self.


Perhaps you might consider taking a course or two in logic.

We have several hundred thousand scanners out there.  Out of that, a
few ask for 800MHZ mods.  Therefore, you see only those people who
*want* the mods.

Do you expect the remaining 99% to post a message saying, "Please don't
send me 800MHZ mods?"

- Rich

--
My mailer has the unfortunate tendency to bounce 10,000 copies of any
junk mail I receive back to the sender.  Be warned.





From [e-mail] Sat Oct 12 12:03:51 1996
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From: [e-mail] (John Wilkerson)
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Subject: Re: CB linear amps 4 Sale - Hypocrites
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Dan ([e-mail]) wrote:
: Bill Nelson wrote:
: >
: > Dan ([e-mail]) wrote:
: > : Bill Nelson wrote:
: > : >
: > : > : Then why do most new 800 Mhz scanners pick up cell phones by "immagi
ng"?
:                              ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
: > : > : Answer that one Micky Mouse!
: > : >
: > : > Because the FCC has not figured out a way to ban images.
: > : >
: > : > Bill
: >
: > : Wrong...because the public would not buy them if they didnt pick up cell
: > : calls in some way. The public gets what it wants.
: >
: > Funny, Radio Shack (and others) do a booming business in scanners that do
: > not go much above 500 MHz, so cannot receive cellular conversations, even
: > through images. Even the newer triple conversion scanners, which are very
: > immune to images, sell well.
:
: Look above^^  We are talking about 800mhz scanners.....stay with us now!
: Oh yea.....good concentration here.

: And you really need to check....the Pro-2035 and the Pro-62 BOTH receive
: cell due to imaging! And damn good I might add! So do your
: homework.....Sir

: > The "cellular buffs" are a small minority of the scanner crowd. Most are
: > interested in the local public service communications - or the easily
: > monitored "wireless phone" conversations of their neighbors.

: > Bill

: I love being a minority. Most people who get into the hobbie but a cheep
: one fist (makes sence). After they see if they like it, then they shell
: out the bucks for a good one. Hell I still have and still buy non-800mhz
: scanners but none of them can replace my Pro-43. Top dog in my
: book......besides the AOR-8000 which is a bit expensive..(but worth it,
: so I have heard!) I too like to listen to public service but I have only
: met a few people on a hundred who didn't like listening to cell
: calls......and they were just pissed because they have a cell phone and
: didn't realize they could be listened to. Guess they had something to
: hide!

: More and more of the seriouse scanner buffs are ordering from Canada or
: the UK so they can have FULL 800mhz coverage. You can act like its not a
: big deal but it is. Just read the post in the scanner news groups and
: you will see. If we had a $1 everytime someone ask for a mod to unlock
: the 800mhz portion of their scanner we could retire. Facts are facts.
:

: .........next

Could you all please cut out rec.radio.cb on the headers next time you
follow up to this thread?  I see nothing regarding CB radio anymore in
this thread.

--
     John L. Wilkerson Jr.        [e-mail]
                                  http://www.iwaynet.net/~johnw

     Coordinator of the rec.radio.cb FAQ




From [e-mail] Sat Oct 12 12:03:52 1996
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From: [e-mail] (John Wilkerson)
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Subject: Cellular Images WAS: Re: CB linear amps 4 Sale - Hypocrites
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Dan ([e-mail]) wrote:
: Joel S Gamble wrote:
: >
: > Dan wrote:
: > >
: > > Bill Nelson wrote:
: > > >
: > > > Dan ([e-mail]) wrote:
: > > >
: > > > : Then why do most new 800 Mhz scanners pick up cell phones by "immagi
ng"?
: > > > : Answer that one Micky Mouse!
: > > >
: > > > Because the FCC has not figured out a way to ban images.
: > > >
: > > > Bill
: > >
: > > Wrong...because the public would not buy them if they didnt pick up cell
: > > calls in some way. The public gets what it wants.
: >   This is rediculious!!
: >   Do you think 'the public' buys scanners specifically to 'eavesdrop' on
: > someones (totally boring) private conversations?
: >   Do you think an 800 Mhz ONLY scanner would sell?I dont!
: >   I have had several devices capable of  monitoring cellular calls and
: > have listened to maybe 3 or 4 before becoming tired of it.
: >   If a scanner will or will not recieve cellular has absolutely nothing
: > to do with my decision to buy.
: >   Am I alone in that I have no interest in listening to cellular?


: Good for you! Just count the request for (800mhz) mods on the scanner
: newsgroups. It speaks for its self.


HOW can one rig a scanner to block these images?  How can one put in an
attentuator circuit to only pick up stronger signals?

Also.... seems this thread has jumped solely to scanner discussion... why
don't you folks edit the headers to exclude rec.radio.cb?




--
     John L. Wilkerson Jr.        [e-mail]
                                  http://www.iwaynet.net/~johnw

     Coordinator of the rec.radio.cb FAQ




From [e-mail] Sat Oct 12 12:03:53 1996
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From: Fred Smith <[e-mail]>
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John Wilkerson wrote:
>
> Dan ([e-mail]) wrote:
> : Joel S Gamble wrote:
> : >
> : > Dan wrote:
> : > >
> : > > Bill Nelson wrote:
> : > > >
> : > > > Dan ([e-mail]) wrote:
> : > > >
> : > > > : Then why do most new 800 Mhz scanners pick up cell phones by "imma
ging"?
> : > > > : Answer that one Micky Mouse!
> : > > >
> : > > > Because the FCC has not figured out a way to ban images.
> : > > >
> : > > > Bill
> : > >
> : > > Wrong...because the public would not buy them if they didnt pick up ce
ll
> : > > calls in some way. The public gets what it wants.
> : >   This is rediculious!!
> : >   Do you think 'the public' buys scanners specifically to 'eavesdrop' on
> : > someones (totally boring) private conversations?
> : >   Do you think an 800 Mhz ONLY scanner would sell?I dont!
> : >   I have had several devices capable of  monitoring cellular calls and
> : > have listened to maybe 3 or 4 before becoming tired of it.
> : >   If a scanner will or will not recieve cellular has absolutely nothing
> : > to do with my decision to buy.
> : >   Am I alone in that I have no interest in listening to cellular?
>
> : Good for you! Just count the request for (800mhz) mods on the scanner
> : newsgroups. It speaks for its self.
>
> HOW can one rig a scanner to block these images?  How can one put in an
> attentuator circuit to only pick up stronger signals?
>
> Also.... seems this thread has jumped solely to scanner discussion... why
> don't you folks edit the headers to exclude rec.radio.cb?
>
> --
>      John L. Wilkerson Jr.        [e-mail]
>                                   http://www.iwaynet.net/~johnw
>
>      Coordinator of the rec.radio.cb FAQI can pick up cel phone "images" on
my tv. just hook up a large anntena
and set it for UHF and ajust until you here some conversations.


From [e-mail] Sat Oct 12 12:03:54 1996
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From: Dan <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: Cellular Images WAS: Re: CB linear amps 4 Sale - Hypocrites
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Jason Low wrote:
>
> >: >   I have had several devices capable of  monitoring cellular calls and
> >: > have listened to maybe 3 or 4 before becoming tired of it.
> >: >   If a scanner will or will not recieve cellular has absolutely nothing
> >: > to do with my decision to buy.
> >: >   Am I alone in that I have no interest in listening to cellular?
>
> Hear, hear. I find the cell images annoying on my radio, especially since
> I work practically underneath a cell tower and it overloads on my FD's
> 866.x mhz frequencies.
>
> I occasionally wonder if the same scenario (cell freq freaks) would play
> out if it were fast food outlets that were illegal to listen to. Can you
> imagine the number of people who were looking for mods to unblock the
> 30.8x freqs in their scanner, or finding some way to circumvent the 30
> mhz block, or buying an 'old' scanner that can pick up drive-thrus.
>
> I feel safe in that 99.998% of my cellphone calls (or even landline
> calls) would bore someone completely to death. I can't imagine someone
> wanting to hear any of the following, which summarizes the total of my
> cell transmissions this past weekend:
>
> "I'm at Blockbuster. Have you guys seen Mystery Science Theater 3000 yet?"
>
> "I was talking with Peter today and he says we have the defib unit now,
> so I'm going to be stopping by the hall before I get home."
>
> "If I grabbed a pizza on the way home, would you guys eat it?"
>
> "How many rolls of film will you need me to pick up, and do you need
> batteries?"
>
> Man, come to think of it, now I understand why you find it absolutely
> necessary to listen to cell calls. Maybe you could buy out all but the
> most expensive batteries in every 7-11 in my path so that I have to feed
> Duracell some more money. Yeah, that's it.. now I see why it's so crucial
> for you to hear people's inane phone conversations.
>
> ..J.    [e-mail]



Just because your life is boring doesnt mean everyone elses is.
(I have heard of) drug deals going down, Stakouts in progress, cops
reporting in when they dont want to use there radios, and my favorite
cheating spouses. Unlimited weakends and free night are the time to
listen, they dont worry about how long they are on and will talk about
anthing! Oh yea, don't listen to cell calls its illegal!
Right!  I love this hobbie.

Ps......I know you net cops and law abiding citizens will have a time
with this post.


From [e-mail] Sat Oct 12 12:03:55 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Steve Work)
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John Wilkerson ([e-mail]) wrote:

: And also..... the 1-900 phonesex lines :)  One I heard I didn't know if I
: should laugh or puke.    I laughed.


The person calling was probably calling it with a cloned phone, too.  For
free.


From [e-mail] Sat Oct 12 12:03:56 1996
From: [e-mail] (Jonathan Clough)
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In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail]  writ
es:


Joe,

> Does anyone know of a supplier of the full range of CFS or CFJ Murata
> filters, preferably in the UK? I know Cirkit sell them, but their
> range is limited; the narrowest one they sell is 1 khz, while I am
> looking for 300hz or 500hz. I would also like to find a supplier of

Murata in the UK are in Fleet. Phone number is 01252 811666 but unless you
want to open an account with a turnover of several K you won't get
very far :-(

There are several distributors who you could try. Eurodis/HB Electronics
(01204 555000) being one in Bolton although Murata should be able to point to
more local
ones (if your not in the NW !)

If you know the specific filter you are after Murata should be able to
tell you which distributors have or have had that particular item. If Murata
or a distributor have no stock you will probably be stuck with minimum order
via a distributor for a few hundred pieces.

> Collins mechanical filters and Hy Q  or similar crystal filters.
> Again, I know these are sold by manufacturers such as AOR or Kiwa, but
> they seem to rather more expensive than they should be, as they are
> sold as spares or accessories for their products.

Even if you do find distributors with stock they may well be rather more
commercial that you wish and have minimun order value or qty in which case
getting the single units from AOR and the like can be your best bet.


Good luck with your projects.

--
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From [e-mail] Sat Oct 12 12:03:57 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Clay Irving)
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Subject: Re: Chicago freqs?
Date: 10 Oct 1996 07:54:46 -0400
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In <53gq6q$[e-mail]> [e-mail] writes:

>" modemx" <[e-mail]> wrote:

>>Anyone have any Chicago/suburban freqs. that are different or unusual to
>>listen too!
>>--
>>[e-mail]

>     I found a web page  "www.panix.com"  check it out, it contains a
>great wealth of info on scanner frequencies by state and by type.
>I have several pages of freq's that I obtained from this location

That would be: Scanning Reference
               http://www.panix.com/~clay/scanning

The direct URL for the Frequencies by State section is:

               http://www.panix.com/~clay/scanning/frequencies/states/

--
Clay Irving N2VKG
[e-mail]
http://www.panix.com/~clay/


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From: [e-mail] (Michael Alexander)
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In article <53ah7o$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Dr. Kim) wrote:

> [e-mail] wrote:
>
> >I am looking for a quality scanner
> >(other than the AOR 8K)that can
> > be computer controled with a
> >price tag under $700.
>
> Yes, I don't know if it's still on the market, but I'm running a
> AR-2500 via serial control from my PC. Back when I bought (some years
> ago) it was around $500.
>
> [e-mail]

Buy a one of the new PRO2006 ($350)  being offered here on a daily basis,
along with the Opto456 interface ($200) and you're well under $700.

If you want a handheld, go with the AOR2700, being sold at a discount for
$200 (I've heard but not confirmed) because it has or soon will be
discontinued. The Optolynx interface is about $100 (there are a couple of
others for the same money but the Opto seems to be the most flexible).

--
Michael Alexander
[e-mail]


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On Tue, 8 Oct 1996, Michael Alexander wrote:

> In article <53ah7o$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Dr. Kim) wrote:
>
> > [e-mail] wrote:
> >
> > >I am looking for a quality scanner
> > >(other than the AOR 8K)that can
> > > be computer controled with a
> > >price tag under $700.
> >
> > Yes, I don't know if it's still on the market, but I'm running a
> > AR-2500 via serial control from my PC. Back when I bought (some years
> > ago) it was around $500.
> >
> > [e-mail]
>
> Buy a one of the new PRO2006 ($350)  being offered here on a daily basis,
> along with the Opto456 interface ($200) and you're well under $700.
>
> If you want a handheld, go with the AOR2700, being sold at a discount for
> $200 (I've heard but not confirmed) because it has or soon will be
> discontinued. The Optolynx interface is about $100 (there are a couple of
> others for the same money but the Opto seems to be the most flexible).

Don't get a AR 2700, it's miserable. It has awesome features but the
receiver is crap.

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From: [e-mail] (Dr. Kim)
Newsgroups: alt.radio.scanner,rec.radio.scanner,alt.radio.scanner.flame_fest
Subject: Re: Computer Control Scanners
Date: Mon, 07 Oct 1996 09:01:17 GMT
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[e-mail] wrote:

>I am looking for a quality scanner
>(other than the AOR 8K)that can
> be computer controled with a
>price tag under $700.

Yes, I don't know if it's still on the market, but I'm running a
AR-2500 via serial control from my PC. Back when I bought (some years
ago) it was around $500.

[e-mail]



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John Mackey KA0SSF ([e-mail]) wrote:
: Bill Cheek wrote:

: > First of all, determine the exact source of the interference.  "Your
: > computer" isn't good enough.  The interference could be coming from
: > the monitor, the keyboard, the CPU or from anything else that is

: Bill what the hell are you doing now???

: Stick to scanners, you know them fairly well.  Stay out of computers.
: Let people who know what they are talking about help him out.

Did I hear someone say truce?  Hey, Bill, glad to see that you are still
hanging around.


--
--Patrick

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From: [e-mail] (Mike Staples)
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Subject: Cordless phone advice sought
Date: 6 Oct 1996 17:34:38 GMT
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I'd like to get suggestions for a good 'secure' cordless phone.
Just being digital would probably be good enough for my use but
if there are affordable units out there that actually encrypt, I
would be interested in those as well.  Actual model and features
to look for is what I'm interested in.  I just bought a GE 900 Mhz
that claimed security but my 2006 disagrees, it's just a 900 Mhz
analog unit.



                                          Thanks!



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I've got the AT&T 9120 900 MHz Digital cordless and trust me, it's digital
and absoutley secure!  I took my BC200XLT over to a friends house and
EASILY scanned and listened to his "digital" 900 MHz phone!  Anywho, the
AT&T is on sale for a while at Incredible Universe for $149, tons of
features too!

Shawn


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From: John Mackey KA0SSF <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: Credentials
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nobody wrote:

> While I don't know Mr. Cheek personally I have been in attendance when
> he came on the Scanner Conference on AOL and found him to be a heck of a
> nice guy and quite willing to share his knowledge.

Yea, sorta.  But you have apparently never disagreed with him.

You so something that does not fit with his view of reality &
he will become very nasty.



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From: John Mackey KA0SSF <[e-mail]>
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Glen Quarnstrom wrote:

> "Patrick D. Lukens" <[e-mail]> wrote:
> >he had no desire to get involved.  Why involve him?  Anyway, it seems
> >that Bill has more support than anyone counted on, and as one who
> >supported him from the beginning, I am glad to see it.  Maybe I'll stick
> >around this time....

> Why would anyone support an arrogant bully, I wonder?




heheheheehhahahaahahhahohohohohohohawhawhawharharhehe




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From: John Mackey KA0SSF <[e-mail]>
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Glen Quarnstrom wrote:

> Mr. Cheek's tactics are quite clever.  He instigates attacks, then
> pretends to be the victim.  What most folks don't see is what goes on
> behind the scenes.


Yes, Bill is excellent at starting something then turning the tables
so to confuse most except those deeply involved.  He is very crafty at
that.




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From: Brian Varine <[e-mail]>
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On Sat, 5 Oct 1996, John Mackey KA0SSF wrote:

> Eric Oyen wrote:
>
> > Hey, John, you started this whole mess. You can clean it up....If you don'
t want to be
> > nagged, then close thy mouth and engage thy brain.
>
> IF you feel I started this then you OBVIOUSLY have NOT followed these
> threads to know what the hell is really going on.  How do you
> explain Bill Cheek's behavior, or do you even know what he has been
> up to?

Gee, I've been on rec.radio.scanner for over 3 years, B Check has been
pretty good. What is he up to. Is that Bill flying around in black
helicopters?


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http://www.orst.edu/~varineb                               When in doubt,
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From [e-mail] Sat Oct 12 12:04:07 1996
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On Sat, 5 Oct 1996, John Mackey KA0SSF wrote:

> Larry Wilson wrote:
>
> > He can't. He has never said shit about scanners. All he
> > can do is cause trouble. All he can do is repeat misinformation
> > about coax he heard from his Ham buddies. He is a world class
> > ass and nothing else.
>
> Larry, you obviously have not followed the threads I have
> been involved in.  I have made many constructive comments
> about scanners.

Why don't you post some more "constructive" comments? If Bill really is
the "World Class Ass" you say, I think we'll figure it out in due time. All
you've done is prove what an ass you can be.

> Shut up, stick your head back in your ass where it belongs,
> & go away.

Is this your definition of "constructive"?


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From [e-mail] Sat Oct 12 12:04:08 1996
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In <53a7i0$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Eric Oyen) writes:
>
>[e-mail](BAYCITVIDGRP) wrote:
>
>>    He's been sitting on it for so long now...
>>     quite possibly he's going to have to get
>>     help to get his brain some air by being
>>     shown how to stand up.
>Good one! I think I noticed the Cranial/rectal inversion problem there
myself...
>
>I just hope it doesn't cause too many problems..... Ah well.
Meanwhile, I am working on a
>design that will filter 100% of the noise I get on my scanner. Then I
might be able to
>hear those weak signals...
>
>   Grove Electronics sells one...or two.

     I sent for one.  Got it and the noise did not
      leave...it just remained the same.  Sent it
      back and that was that.  Quite possibly there
      is no answer....with all the variables having
      to do with LOCATION of antennae and Location
      of roof and Location of where your radios are
      and how long the length of the cable and more.

      Also, certain scanners seem to do it more than
      others....certain antennae seem to increase this
      level of noise and all etc's.  I have four up on
      the roof and each has its own peculiarities as far
      as what signals it receives from where originating.

      Plus the rain and the cold weather and the sun and the
      very hot sun factor play parts....when It's really hot
\     I get great reception over teh hills behind me.  When
      It's cold I don't get reception that great over the hills
      behind me.

       I'm told that Sun Flaring affects reception ...

       bill conduit
>
>
>



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Brian Varine wrote:

> Why don't you post some more "constructive" comments? If Bill really is
> the "World Class Ass" you say, I think we'll figure it out in due time. All
> you've done is prove what an ass you can be.


Are you looking in a mirror?




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Bill Cheek wrote:

> John Mackey KA0SSF <[e-mail]> wrote:
> >Shut up, stick your head back in your ass where it belongs,
> >& go away.

> Nice healthy, wholesome comment.  ;-/


It's NOTHING when compared to the CRAP you
have put out over time.

How about those comments you wrote to
Guitrman?



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Brian Varine wrote:

> Gee, I've been on rec.radio.scanner for over 3 years, B Check has been
> pretty good. What is he up to. Is that Bill flying around in black

Bill Cheek ass kissers tend not to notice.




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From: John Mackey KA0SSF <[e-mail]>
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Eric Oyen wrote:
> How is it that you take
> cause to insult every word/phrase that is spoken in reference to mr. Cheek?

I do not insult Mr. Cheek on everything.  For example, I do think he is
very
knowledgable on scanner modifications.  Certainly he knows more about
modifying scanners than me.  It is his I am GOD attitude & lying that
I am attacking.




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nobody wrote:

> accusations etc. I know Mr. Cheek has said in the past he'd be willing
> to cut it out if you did. I assume that offer still stands.


I have proposed a truce on TWO different occasions & Bill just
continues to attack.




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Richard Kendrick wrote:

> Let's see, two addresses, one real (old) and one anonymous (current). You
> have been lambasting numerous denizens of this group, particularly denouncin
g
> their credibility. Before you present yourself as a paragon of virtue, you m
ight
> begin by establishing _your_ credibility with a non-anonymous address.


You don't know what the HELL you are talking about.  I have stated MANY
times that I DO NOT have an internet address associated with my internet
access I use to get on here.  The only way I am even able to access
news servers is by finding anonymous news servers.

I am hardly anonymous when I use my name & callsign.




From [e-mail] Sat Oct 12 12:04:14 1996
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From: John Mackey KA0SSF <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: Credentials
Date: Mon, 07 Oct 1996 12:34:58 -0700
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Hugh Duff wrote:

> [e-mail] (Bill Cheek) wrote:
> >Your ONLY claim to fame is to play dirty.  But if you think different

> Now here's a prime candidate for the "pot calling the kettle black"
> award of the year.


Bill wins that head & shoulders above everyone else.




From [e-mail] Sat Oct 12 12:04:15 1996
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From: John Mackey KA0SSF <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: Credentials
Date: Sun, 06 Oct 1996 03:51:12 -0700
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[e-mail] wrote:

> OTher times it is his technical knowledge.  You claim he stole it.
> Prove what you have to say.

You better review what I have written.  I NEVER said he stole
anything.



> > What kind of an answer could I give "I will clean your clock"??

> If you can clean his clock do it!  Otherwise shut up.

Bill is the one who said the above, not me.  You should
ask Bill but I doubt you will because to you Bill can do
no wrong & you blindly follow him.




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From: John Mackey KA0SSF <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: Credentials
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Richard Kendrick wrote:


> Let's see, two addresses, one real (old) and one anonymous (current). You

Wrong.  The "Pionet" address is a temporary address I was using while
I was in the hospital in Iowa (just before my surgery) a few weeks
ago.  The other address is a non-address because with this system I
usually use I do not have an e-mail address.

I am hardly anonymous when I put my name & call in every entry.


> have been lambasting numerous denizens of this group, particularly denouncin
g
> their credibility. Before you present yourself as a paragon of virtue, you m
ight
> begin by establishing _your_ credibility with a non-anonymous address.

If I had an e-mail address I would give it, but I don't.  See above.



From [e-mail] Sat Oct 12 12:04:17 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Glen Quarnstrom)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner,alt.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Credentials
Date: Sat, 05 Oct 1996 00:28:12 GMT
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nobody <[e-mail]> wrote:

>While I don't know Mr. Cheek personally I have been in attendance when
>he came on the Scanner Conference on AOL and found him to be a heck of a
>nice guy and quite willing to share his knowledge. I have perused two of

"Nice guy" is somewhat subjective.  If you ever had the occasion to
take issue with something he'd said, you'd likely have reason to
reconsider your opinion.

>his books and found them to be well written and very useful. I really
>don't give a rat's rear end about his credentials since he has yet to
>steer me wrong.

I don't care about his credentials, either, since they have nothing to
do with his expertise in scanners.  So why, I wonder, does he insist
on flaunting them in people's faces as though they made him better or
smarter than others?  His works stands on its own; there's no need to
prop it up with pretentious chest-beating and bragging.

>can be used, is great. What is disconcerting is the name calling,
>accusations etc. I know Mr. Cheek has said in the past he'd be willing
>to cut it out if you did. I assume that offer still stands.

Mr. Cheek's tactics are quite clever.  He instigates attacks, then
pretends to be the victim.  What most folks don't see is what goes on
behind the scenes.

--
[e-mail]



From [e-mail] Sat Oct 12 12:04:17 1996
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From: John Mackey KA0SSF <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: Credentials
Date: Thu, 10 Oct 1996 12:04:00 -0700
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BILL WATTS wrote:

> Woweee! Ten whole dollars! You must be pretty damned sure
> of yourself to risk half a day's pay.

Naw, hell that's all I paid to buy your daughter for the weekend.




From [e-mail] Sat Oct 12 12:04:19 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Blue dot 9)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Credentials
Date: 10 Oct 1996 02:39:08 -0400
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Guess what?

I just called the local MENSA Organization(which happens to be the
National Headquarters), and they said that Bill Cheek is not an 'active
member' of MENSA.

Yes, I know...non -'active member' can imply that he may have been active
at one time, but this is for the sake of alleving those  which the "burden
of proof" lays upon.

**********EDITORIAL STATEMENT***********
I know ~10 people which are members of MENSA, ~5 of which I grew up with,
and others I met while in college.  Three of those people which I
contacted agreed and  stated that he shouldn't be saying that he is a
member of MENSA if he is not active.

This all came about during a cycling-club  meeting, which has nothing to
do about internet, scanners, or flames on Usenet.  I just threw it out to
'open discussion,' and this was the overall response I received.  No names
were involved, and no pre-judged character definitions were imposed.

 Asked question: " What do you think about someone using MENSA membership
as a credential when he is non-active?"

Dave
(Scanner Flatulaire)
('Mensa,' in spanish, means : the female gender form of IDIOT!!  'Menso,'
of course, is the male gender form of IDIOT.

Note: I am not supporting any side on this credential business.  I am just
stating fact.  BTW, the reason I called up MENSA is because I happen to
have a lot of time on my hands (which I am very proud of...being able to
do my work, make a decent income, and still have more time than I need).

Oh, most (not all) MENSA members are usually very introverted and
'intellectually snooty.'

In article <53ccf9$[e-mail]>, [e-mail]
(Richard Kendrick) writes:

>John Mackey KA0SSF <[e-mail]> wrote:
>
*******************************edited*******************
>>lying that I am attacking.
>
>On the issue of credentials, you have accused Bill Cheek of lying about
>possessing various certifications and degrees. Other than your
allegations,
>you have not offered any proof of Bill's prevarication. As the accuser,
the
>burden of proof is on you. You have the floor to present your opening
>arguments.
>
>
>Richard Kendrick CET WA7TWI           |
>Amateur Radio Extra Class             |  Do not adjust your mind, there
>QRP #4129/G-QRP #8591/MI-QRP #M-1412  |  is a fault in reality.
>Mesa, AZ  email: [e-mail]  |
>
>



From [e-mail] Sat Oct 12 12:04:20 1996
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From: [e-mail] (BILL WATTS)
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Subject: Re: Credentials
Date: Fri, 11 Oct 96 00:02:00 -0800
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 John Mackey KA0SSF wrote
 > BILL WATTS wrote:
 >
 > > Woweee! Ten whole dollars! You must be pretty damned sure
 > > of yourself to risk half a day's pay.

 > Naw, hell that's all I paid to buy your daughter for the weekend.

She told me some fatheaded fucking pervert offered her 10 bucks to
tie him up and whip the shit out of him last weekend. She was a
little off on the name, though. She said his name was Wackey.
By the way, what's your address? My son-in-law would like to see
you. I think it's about making you eat either your words or the
shit out of your bedpans or maybe kissing a Cheek of his ass.
My daughter is headed for the San Diego Law Library to research
the laws on slander.

Bill Watts  ex Cape-Codder  [e-mail]


From [e-mail] Sat Oct 12 12:04:21 1996
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Subject: Re: Credentials
Date: Wed, 9 Oct 1996 17:57:22 -0700
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I have my press credentials

Oh wait, this is a stupid flame war, sorry to disturb the pointless
arguments.


Ken Koller

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From [e-mail] Sat Oct 12 12:04:22 1996
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From: John Mackey KA0SSF <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: Credentials
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BAYCITVIDGRP wrote:

>      to the Idiot of Mackey:  I wonder what his family coat of arms

You like to SPAM don't you?




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From: John Mackey KA0SSF <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: Credentials
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Richard Kendrick wrote:

> John Mackey KA0SSF <[e-mail]> wrote:
> >ago.  The other address is a non-address because with this system I
> >usually use I do not have an e-mail address.

> So, you are indirectly admitting you are stealing access to the net.

No, I am admitting that my internet access does not provide me
with an e-mail address.  It is a free newsgroup & internet access
system which I maintain & access.  I have not stolen anything, nor
did I indicate that.


> We have no proof you haven't stolen the identity you are currently using.

We have no proof you haven't stolen the identity you are currently using
either.



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From: LWilson
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner,alt.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Credentials
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The Idiot Mackey lies (?)

>No, I am admitting that my internet access does not provide me
>with an e-mail address.  It is a free newsgroup & internet access
>system which I maintain & access.

Same thing you told Cheek. You post you maintain a system so prove it.
What is system name? If you can't give name then you are liar Idiot
Mackey. What is system name to check your Credentials?

Larry
Idot Mackey Lie Counter



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From: [e-mail] (tyler)
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Subject: Re: Credentials: Don't you think this has gone far enough?????
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In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] says...
>
>John Mackey KA0SSF wrote:
>>
>> Patrick D. Lukens wrote:

WHO GIVES A SHIT!?!?!?!  KNOCK IT THE FUCK OFF!!!!!!!!



From [e-mail] Sat Oct 12 12:04:25 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Michael J. Huck)
Newsgroups: alt.radio.scanner,rec.radio.scanner
Subject: cruise ship freqs? rccl in particular
Date: Sun, 06 Oct 1996 15:29:05 GMT
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I was wondering if anyone is aware of frequencies used for various operations
on-board
ship.  I am planning a future vacation on a RCCL ship, so those are the freqs
that I am most
interested in at the moment.  Also any ship to shore communications.

Mike



From [e-mail] Sat Oct 12 12:04:26 1996
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From: "David A. Lovell" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Crystals
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Date: Mon, 07 Oct 1996 09:34:37 -0500
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Victoria Baker wrote:
>
> Where can I get a crystal for the frequency of 155.670 MHz?
> Thanks.  Roger

Roger, we have 'several' crystals here - but what model scanner
do you have?  Different manufacturers used different IF frequencies
in their crystal based scanners, requiring different crystal
resonance frequencies to be on channel.  Can you elaborate?
Best Regards, Dave Lovell





From [e-mail] Sat Oct 12 12:04:27 1996
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From: "David A. Lovell" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: crystals
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
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J V Pollock wrote:
>
> Im looking for a cheap source of crystals for my bearcat scanner.
>
> Its an old 8 channel scanner I picked up at a garage sale for (believe
> it or not, 50 cents).  Got it working too.  I'm trying to get my dad
> into the hobby with it covertly, by sticking in some police freqs.
>
> Anyway, Radio shack crystals are special order for 4.99 or some such,
> and a buck shipping.  I was pretty disappointed to learn that jan
> crystals are even more!  10$ per crystal.
>
> Anyone have any other sources?
>
> Please carbon copy reponses to [e-mail]

As it happens, I've re-acquired Electra's original crystal bank
(thank you Terry Ott) and am willing to accommodate you at $5 per
crystal - provided we have the frequencies in stock.  So what do you
need for your Bearcat?

Best Wishes,
Dave Lovell, W9DAG, RF Eng., Owner - ELECTRA CORP. 317 326-4419




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Xtals

Clydes Corner
East 14 St
San Leandro, Ca
Cilff has been in the Bus. 30 years
 He has picked up lots of old stock


From [e-mail] Sat Oct 12 12:04:28 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Jeff Zeman)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: crystals
Date: Fri, 11 Oct 1996 16:55:34 GMT
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"David A. Lovell" <[e-mail]> wrote:

>J V Pollock wrote:
>>
>> Im looking for a cheap source of crystals for my bearcat scanner.
>>
>> Its an old 8 channel scanner I picked up at a garage sale for (believe
>> it or not, 50 cents).  Got it working too.  I'm trying to get my dad
>> into the hobby with it covertly, by sticking in some police freqs.
>>
>> Anyway, Radio shack crystals are special order for 4.99 or some such,
>> and a buck shipping.  I was pretty disappointed to learn that jan
>> crystals are even more!  10$ per crystal.
>>
>> Anyone have any other sources?
>>
>> Please carbon copy reponses to [e-mail]

>As it happens, I've re-acquired Electra's original crystal bank
>(thank you Terry Ott) and am willing to accommodate you at $5 per
>crystal - provided we have the frequencies in stock.  So what do you
>need for your Bearcat?

>Best Wishes,
>Dave Lovell, W9DAG, RF Eng., Owner - ELECTRA CORP. 317 326-4419


Try... http://www.iinc.com:80/ggcomm/xtals.html



From [e-mail] Sat Oct 12 12:04:29 1996
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From: Steve Garber <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Disable "beep" on 2006?
Date: 10 Oct 1996 16:03:02 -0700
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How do I disable the "beep" noise each time I use my PRO-2006?

Thanks,

Steve



From [e-mail] Sat Oct 12 12:04:30 1996
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From: "L.G. Shirley" <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Dole back in NJ Sunday the 13th
Date: Thu, 10 Oct 1996 21:41:42 -0400
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Prez candidate Bob Dole will be back in New Jersey this Sunday.
Hoping for better weather I'm sure. He will start the day in
Newark acoording to a news release.

He'll start the day in Newark at the Columbus day parade at noon.
Then he travels. It's unknown at this time if it's by bus again or
when he'll take to the road.

Somerville is the first site mentioned on his afternoon tour and
he should be going to the Somerset County Courthouse. This should
attract quite a few politicans and congressional contenders were
among those mentioned.

Later, he will go to Hamilton, NJ scheduled to speak at the gazebo
in Kuser Farm Park. This might be a good opportunity to search for
some new freq's in use by the USSS. Last time they only used "Mike"
165.2125. But keep 165.5125/166.4875 and 165.6875/166.800 the two
main Newark office freq's in mind, all 4 can be used simplex.

The NJ troopers will once again be involved. Try scanning both
troop B and C trunking along w/the freq's mentioned in the 1st post
no matter how Dole travels, bus, helo, car.

Somerville uses 155.310s as its main ferq. They probably will have
help from a nearby town. The SPEN's may be used. I've found the
use of itinerants and business freq's used in Somerville for some
events like the Tour of Somerville.

If anyone gets a chance to monitor, keep the 464 & 469 freq's I
believe Dole's people used at Milltown in mind again. It looks
like his campaign people have set up shop in Somerville already.
464.500  464.550  469.500  469.550 both simplex and rptr use.

Hamilton Township uses the 453 band. But search it for hidden any
hidden freq's and don't forget the 458's which might be used as
simplex also.

Has anyone else Nationwide found the campaigns using their own two
way radios? That would mainly be Perot and Brown. I only saw cell
phones during Perot's NJ visit during the '92 election.

Regards,
LGS



From [e-mail] Sat Oct 12 12:04:31 1996
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From: [e-mail] (kevin kibbe)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: DTMF decoders?
Date: Fri, 11 Oct 1996 03:33:35 GMT
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Aaron <A.SCHREIBER-COMPETATIVE.SHOOTER> wrote:

>I am looking for a DTMF decoder at a fair price.  Any suggestions?  Also,
>anyone ever use MoTron Electronic's TDD8X?
>Thanks in advance for any suggestions.

Not too hard a thing to make for about $20. Most of the work can be
done by one IC. The chip you need is a MC145436AP and a xtal that  can
be found at just about any electronics parts store, a 3.579545 MHZ.
You will also need the Motorla Data Book, this book give the schematic
for the rest of the hookup. A 1 M Ohm resistor and a 0.1uF cap are the
rest of the parts.

The only problem is that you will need some way to view the output of
the chip which is in BCD. This can be sent to the parallel port of
your computer and read into you machine using BASIC if you like. If
you are handy with electronics you should have no problem. If anyone
likes I will sent an ASCII diagram of the basic hookup. I will be
using a basic Stamp to display the BCD data on a LCD display. When I
have finished this I will post the plans and program if anyone wants.
(It will take about 2 weeks due to the shipping delay I have waiting
for the STAMP uC)

I have build the decoder part and it works just fine on my scanner.


                                        Kevin Kibbe




From [e-mail] Sat Oct 12 12:04:32 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Steve Kennedy)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: DTMF decoders?
Date: Fri, 11 Oct 1996 17:06:04 GMT
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Aaron <A.SCHREIBER-COMPETATIVE.SHOOTER> wrote:

>I am looking for a DTMF decoder at a fair price.  Any suggestions?  Also,
>anyone ever use MoTron Electronic's TDD8X?
>Thanks in advance for any suggestions.

I have been using a TDD-8X at home AND at work for about 6 months.  I
can highly recommend it for those that have relatively simple needs in
DTMF decoding.  This sucker just flat works as advertised.... no
problems at all as long as you realize that at the price of $59.00, it
doesn't include a cabinet or power supply.

All connections to the PC board are through standard connectors, and
it even comes with PC software for computer logging of DTMF tones.

You can hook it to scanners via ext speaker jack or record output jack
(preferred).  It works over a wide range of audio conditions.

For the money, you can't go wrong.  This is a solid design built with
quality parts.  Highly recommended!

Steve
WB7PSD



From [e-mail] Sat Oct 12 12:04:33 1996
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From: John Mackey KA0SSF <[e-mail]>
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Bill Cheek wrote:
> Say, how's come you posted the same article twice, two-and-a-half
> minutes apart?


So you just had to continue the spamming by
qouting & respondind.

Smart <not>




From [e-mail] Sat Oct 12 12:04:34 1996
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From: (Patriot)
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Date: Wed, 09 Oct 1996 20:18:47 GMT
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You guys are making this group very boring. We get tired of seeing
usless, childish sparring by 2 egotistical morons. This starting to
sound like a "I'm smarter than you" second grade argument.
Who cares?

Look ladies, If you wantto have a spat take it to the
alt.lovers.quarrell group. Let the folks who use this group to try to
stay current on info about a great hobby, share ideas and hopefully
learn a little enjoy it with out your attention getting gimicks. Use
those on your xyl's or whoever puts up with you.

BTW, you're giving Amateur Radio a bad rep.

Patriot


From [e-mail] Sat Oct 12 12:04:37 1996
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From: [e-mail](BAYCITVIDGRP)
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Subject: Re: Enuf' already Cheek & Mackey!!!
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In <[e-mail]> (Patriot) writes:
>
>
>>
>
>>
>Don't you guy's realize the people on this group are laughing at you
>two.
>You are becoming the Laurel & Hardy or Cheech & Chong of the newsgroup
>and it isn't a laughing matter, it's kind of pitiful.
>
     gosh...if that's true. just think how rich the Cheeks Guy is going
      to be....and famous....the Cheech and Chong referrent...plus the
      cheeks guy will be on all tv. talk shows and even on the front
      page of Monitoring Times for his escalated level of notoriety.

      as for getting on with the "GROUP"....very unhealthy...very
      anti-intellectual, lower yourself to the level which is pure
      sewer swill.

      You really need to get a handle on what's right with this.
      the cheeks guy has his place in the universe...and it is
      rec.radio.scanner.  the idiot guy has his place in the
      universe and it ain't rec.radio.scanner.

      learn how to exercise your rights...choose to or not to choose
      to. No one is forcing you to read any posts by the Cheeks Guy
       or the moronic Idiot guy.  they are not alive unless you
      give-in and assume their positions by accessing their wording.
      You give them life.  Learn how to control your mind-bladder
      better.

      bill conduit
      the "etc" guy

>Lets get on with the group.
>
>the group. Like how to get my 2035 into full coverage without
>replacing cpu's and OS535's.
>
>Patriot
>
>
>



From [e-mail] Sat Oct 12 12:04:38 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Gene McAvoy)
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Subject: Free FCC Databases - NOW!
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There's over 30 states available FREE right now!

Yup...you read it right, FREE.

Check it out today at:

        http://www.oz.net/~gmcavoy/index.html

We've got a 5 meg limit on WWW space for this project.
We're NOT askin' for money here!  However, a lot of folks
have been generous with their web space (most ISPs give you
5 megs for a web page whether you use it or not...) and we've
therefore been able to put up more states at once.  So, if you
don't see the state data you want...you can either just be patient
or drop us a bit of email offering web space and we'll talk about
setting you up as an href link for your state database.

Questions/Comments...email us.

73 to all...
Gene McAvoy / KG7XD
Matt Amis / AA7LP

ScanWare Associates
PO Box 1743
Silverdale, WA 98383-1743




From [e-mail] Sat Oct 12 12:04:39 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Georg Schwarz)
Newsgroups: alt.cellular-phone-tech,de.alt.radio-scanner,rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Freq spacing of CT1+ cordless telephones?
Date: 6 Oct 1996 18:46:48 GMT
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[e-mail] (harry dutch) writes:

>the analog system CT0 has 12 channels, frequencies are 31.0375-31.3125 base,
>39.9375-40.2125 handsets, step 25khz

>the analog system CT1 has 40 channels, frequencies are 959.0125-959.9875 base
,
>914.0125-914.9875 handsets, step 25khz

>the analog system CT1+ has 80 channels, frequencies are 930.0125-931.9875 bas
e,
>885.0125-886.9875 handsets, step 25khz

>hope that helps.

Thanks a lot! That's exactly the information I was looking for.

>harry dutch, the netherlands
>i'm homeless - because i have no homepage

there are plenty of free opportunities to get a home page if you care
about having one..
--
Georg Schwarz ([e-mail], [e-mail], PGP 2.6ui)
Institut fⁿr Theoretische Physik  [phone]   FAX -21130   IRC kuroi
Technische UniversitΣt Berlin  http://itp1.physik.tu-berlin.de/~schwarz/


From [e-mail] Sat Oct 12 12:04:40 1996
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From: Eric Becker <[e-mail]>
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Date: Mon, 07 Oct 1996 02:42:00 GMT
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i was wondering if anyone had the plano, texas frequencies for pisd school and
service center aswell as plano's police and fire.


i was also wondering what frequencies motorola two-way radios. that you can
buy are operating at. they are running on crystals.


thankyou
eric becker


From [e-mail] Sat Oct 12 12:04:41 1996
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From: [e-mail] (wfm)
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Subject: FS AOR-1000
Date: 11 Oct 1996 13:38:02 GMT
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For sale AOR-1000, $200.00.  I will pay shipping.

Before the Net Price Police flame away, this is full
coverage INCLUDING cellular.

If anyone is interested email me or I can be reached
nights at 717-879-5315, days 607-773-0104.

bill




 **Some people cause smiles wherever they go, others whenever they go**




From [e-mail] Sat Oct 12 12:04:42 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Drew Durigan)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: FS AR2700
Date: 11 Oct 1996 23:17:24 GMT
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Bob E <[e-mail]> wrote:
>
>For Sale like new AOR AR-2700 scanner.  Haven't sent warranty card in.
>Only used 4 weeks.  Bought new mail order and thought it was a little
>smaller and lighter.
>
>500Khz to 1300 Mhz.  NFM, WFM, AM.
>
>Not modified haven't even taken the cover off.  Comes with:
>
>Cig lighter plug
>Two anetnnas
>Belt clip
>Box and warranty registration card
>Nicat batteries
>Charger
>
>$250.00


Hmmm...would this be the same AR2700 that's currently available brand new
for $209.95 from Electronic Distributors and several participating
dealers (page 7, Pop Comm, 9/96)

Tsk, tsk

-Drew in Sunny Central Florida-



From [e-mail] Sat Oct 12 12:04:43 1996
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From: [e-mail] (wfm)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: FS MR_8100
Date: 11 Oct 1996 13:39:05 GMT
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For sale MR-8100.  $200.00, I will pay shipping.

NOTE: I have replace the oddball plugs that came with the radio.
      The audio out now has a 1/8" jack.  (Plug in speaker or
      headphones).
      The power input now has a 5.5 mm O.D. 2.1 mm I.D. inline
      jack.  (Same type jack as on some portable scanners)
      (Rat Shack #274-1577)

      I only tried to program the scanner from my computer
      ONCE.  They did NOT communicate with each other.  I
      now understand that Scanner World supplied the wrong
      cable.  This may have been the trouble OR the scanner
      may just NOW work with a computer.

      I do NOT have the scanner/computer interface cord nor
      the speaker that came with the scanner.

If anyone is still interested email me or I can be reached
nights at 717-879-5315, days 607-773-0104.

bill



 **Some people cause smiles wherever they go, others whenever they go**



From [e-mail] Sat Oct 12 12:04:43 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Raymond Miller)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.swap,rec.radio.scanner,alt.radio.scanner
Subject: FS or Trade: BC-890XLT full coverage scanner
Date: 11 Oct 1996 13:17:33 GMT
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I have a full coverage (unblocked) BC-890XLT scanner in mint condition
that I purchased new October 22, 1993. I've used it very little. It works
fine. I have the original box, manual and sales slip for it. I would
like to sell or trade (preferably trade) this unit for something else.
I find that I get more use from hand held scanners generally so if an
interesting hand held (with full coverage & unblocked) were offered,
perhaps we could strike a deal.On the side of selling my unit, I
honestly have no idea what a fair market price would be, so make an
offer if you like. Here is the frequency coverage of my unit:
29 - 54mhz
108 - 136.975mhz
137 - 174mhz
216 - 224.9875mhz
225 - 399.9875mhz
400 - 512mhz
806 - 956mhz (Cell freqs have correct 30mhz spacing)
Also, the unit allows for the addition of a CTCSS tone board as an option.
I never opted to do that, however.
Please e-mail with what you would like to offer for trade, if interested.
Regards, Ray Miller N2NJK


From [e-mail] Sat Oct 12 12:04:44 1996
From: [e-mail] (Kip Rumble)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: FS PRO-43 (Canada)
Date: Fri, 04 Oct 1996 16:25:21 GMT
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For sale - PRO-43.  Cell modified and lower band expanded.

c/w NiCad batteries and owners manual.

Will ship free anywhere in Canada.

Asking $300.00 Cdn.

[e-mail]




From [e-mail] Sat Oct 12 12:04:45 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Bob Zito)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner,rec.radio.swap,alt.radio.scanner
Subject: FS/FT Pro 43 Scanner with 800 mhz & 70 Mhz restored
Date: Thu, 10 Oct 1996 23:05:37 GMT
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FS/FT Pro 43 Scanner with 800 mhz & 70 Mhz restored in good condition
with nicad battery pack, spare empty battery case, rubber duck and
carrying case. $230 + Shipping or trade for a dual-band 2m/70cm radio.
Thanks!
Bob
<[e-mail]> (Bob Zito) KI7EV WA. State


From [e-mail] Sat Oct 12 12:04:46 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Gary Moncur)
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Subject: FS:  Scanner Magazines
Date: Mon, 07 Oct 96 21:05:22 GMT
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I'm cleaning house and offer the following scanner magazines for sale:

There is a total of 96 issues of  Monitoring Times and Popular
Communications.  My intent is to sell the MTs and PCs and throw in the
WSR and NSR issues as a bonus to someone interested in the entire package.

The cost for the entire package mailed in the lower 48 states is $150, or best


offer.  I would rather sell the entire package as a whole, but if that doesn't


work, I'll offer individual magazines in lots of 10 for $25.  I don't want to
mail single issues all over the country.

Please respond via emil if you have questions or would like to make an
offer.  Thanks!

      Gary     <[e-mail]>


Monitoring Times:
1990    Nov & Dec only
1991    Complete
1992    Complete
1993    all except March
1994    Complete
1995    Complete
1996    Jan thru October (current)

Popular Communications:
1990    Dec only
1991    all except Jan
1992    Complete
1993    Jan only

World Scanner Report
1993    Complete (10 issues)
1994    9 issues (last one missing)

National Scanning Report
5 total issues
(May/Jun 91,  Sep/Oct 91,  Jan/Feb 94,  Mar/Apr 94,  May/Jun 94)


-Gary   -Salt Lake City, Utah USA-


From [e-mail] Sat Oct 12 12:04:47 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Barry, WA2KLS)
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Subject: FS: 2 scanners
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I have a PRO-2003. Covers:30-50mhz,
88.1-107.9mhz,108-136mhz,138-174mhz, 410-512mhz. 50 channel
programmable base scanner with manual and antenna. In EXC working and
VG cosmetic condition.

$65 + shipping FIRM

Also PRO-2011. Covers 30-54mhz, 138-174mhz,380-512mhz. 20 channel
programmable base scanner in MINT condition, with antenna.

$55 + shipping FIRM

Regards, Barry, WA2KLS





From [e-mail] Sat Oct 12 12:04:48 1996
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From: Mike VE4 TCH
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Subject: FS: BC-200XLT
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I have for sale , one Uniden Bearcat BC200XLT hand-held scanner complete with
EXTRA nicad battery
pack and modified for the cell band..
Mint condition.
In original box.
BEST (reasonalble) OFFER.

e-mail:  [e-mail]




From [e-mail] Sat Oct 12 12:04:49 1996
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From: Mark or Marsha Wilson <[e-mail]>
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For sale Radio Shack Pro 44.  Make an offer.



Mark

[e-mail]


From [e-mail] Sat Oct 12 12:04:49 1996
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From: Steve Garber <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Good apartment/townhouse scanner antenna?
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Anyone suggest a good scanner antenna for apartment/townhouse
applications? I would really rather not be limited to using the whip
antenna supplied with my scanner (horrors!)

Thanks,

Steve



From [e-mail] Sat Oct 12 12:04:51 1996
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From: "Jeffrey Miller" <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: good intro scanner
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> whats a decent starter scanner....dollars is a factor please...
> [e-mail]
>
What type of scanner do you want (Handheld or Base)?  What is the price
range
you are looking at?   How large or small an area do you live in (NYC vs
Boringville)?

You may want to take a look a Police Call or a Frequency Directory for your
area.  By doing this you can at least get an idea of the minimum number of
channels
necessary for PD, FD, EMS etc.

Then also consider if you will need 800Mhz and if you are near an Air Force
Base
you may want Military Air (225-400Mhz which adds cost to the scanner).

Answering at least the price range will give us an idea of what to
recommend.

Good Luck
Jeff


From [e-mail] Sat Oct 12 12:04:52 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Kcc007)
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Subject: Help!  What scanner is this?
Date: 10 Oct 1996 22:12:31 -0400
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I am trying to put together a mobile scanning rig and remember that
someone(bearcat?) made one that was like a flat square. Looked like
something that you would see in an emergency vehicle. Like:

[---------------]
[ XXXXXXXXXXXX  ]
[ X SCREEN  X   ]
[ XXXXXXXXXXXX  ]
[ O  O   O  O   ]
[---------------]

(Sorry if the picture does not look like a square due to the proportional
font)

It was flat not like the normal rectangle shaped box on most scanners.

My question are:

What Scanner was this?
How good were they?
How much do they cost and where can I buy one?

Thanks in advance, feel free to E-mail me at [e-mail] or
post it to the group.

[e-mail]
N8LNN
Keith C. Collins


From [e-mail] Sat Oct 12 12:04:53 1996
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From: [e-mail] (David Bernazzani)
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Subject: Re: Help!  What scanner to buy????
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Mark or Marsha Wilson <[e-mail]> wrote:

>I am looking for a good scanner in the $400 range.  I want a hand held,
>that gets as many frequencies as possible.  One thing I DO want is
>military aircraft <I live in Baltimore MD>.  I am looking at a
>bc2500xlt, for $350.  Is this a good deal?

For around the same price consider the BC3000XLT which is the update
to the 2500.  I guess the 2500 had some problems with images and
intermod but the 3000 with triple conversion greatly improved this.
Good coverage, fast scanning, auto search and store, per-channel
selectable delay of 2/4 seconds, 400 channels in 20 banks, 10 priority
channels.

Battery life is fair at best.

OH, and yes, it will get mil air along with just about everything else
you might want.

Dave Bernazzani
N1WSQ



From [e-mail] Sat Oct 12 12:04:54 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Hay145)
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Hi,

>I am looking for a good scanner in the $400 range.  I want a hand held,
>that gets as many frequencies as possible.  One thing I DO want is
>military aircraft <I live in Baltimore MD>.  I am looking at a
>bc2500xlt, for $350.  Is this a good deal?

Not for the BC2500XLT which was a poor product from Uniden that suffered
from Intermod and poor battery life. The 3000XLT that replaced it (looks
the same) is the far better receiver although with the basic same features
25-550MHz & 760-1300MHz (less cellular).

You should be able to get the BC-3000XLT for $350 which would be a far
better choice although if you have a little more to spend take a look at
the UBC-3000XLT from somebody like Javiation in the UK
(http://www.demon.co.uk/javiation/) which will give you full 800MHz and
not be blocked in anyway

Good Luck
Harry.


From [e-mail] Sat Oct 12 12:04:55 1996
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From: [e-mail](BAYCITVIDGRP)
Newsgroups: alt.radio.scanner,rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Help! Not recieving PD freqs. in 800 - 900 range, Why?
Date: 10 Oct 1996 22:44:08 GMT
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In <325d3142.490421@129.174.1.8> [e-mail] (Don R. Morgan)
writes:
>
>Hi, I am new to the whole scanner thing and would like to pick up my
>local Police Dept.  I have a list of their frequencies and they are
>all in the 853.0000 to 855.0000 range.  I have an SC150 - Uniden
>Sportcat scanner that will recieve in this range, but I don't ever
>seem to pick up anything but some strange noises.  Can anyone help me
>with this?   Also, now that I have gotten into this, I am enjoying it
>and would like to know, aside from Radio Shack, where I can find
>quality handheld scanners.  Any recomendations?
>
>Thanks
>
>Don

    Maybe the freq's are not working.  Because they are on a piece
    of paper only means that they are scheduled to be installed
    in the future. Program in their normally assigned freq's and
    see how much traffic is coming on ... if a lot, then they
    are not on 800 yet....800 is a major expense and lots of
    communities cannot afford it...but they assign the channels
    years ahead.  We have four agencies here in the Bay AREa
    with 800 assignations and they don't have the money for the
    installation.  OR some stupid city worker reminds the people
    in San Fran that BUrma is on the list of countries that SF
    does nto do business with and Motoralla and Erickson do bus
    with Burma and now San Fran is playing "world cop" by not
    installing the 33 million system as fast as they were to have
    because of the USA company doing business with Burma....a
    country just outside Communist China, whom the merchants of
    San Fran are allowed to import goods from this slave labor
    country...all with the blessing of the mayor: King Willie.

    You figure it.

    Call you local newspaper photo or news desk and ask them
    if they get pd on normal or 800 channels....

    Call 18004768050.....Scanner World...your above is on sale
      for 159.99.  Not my first choice of scanners.

    Damark....get their 800 number from 800 operator and
    ask for a catalog...they have a bcat 120xlt on sale for
    99.00...great buy if you don't need 800...

    or the bcat 16 channel desk model for %60...dollars....good
    scanner, very reliable.  I use it for CHP in my JEEP.  Great
    for low freq and high freq listening. . not too good with
    488 and in this range...don't get both sides all time


     Don't forget Grove Enterprises...they have an 800 number
      too...nice source of books on scanning.  Scanner World
      same....GE's prices generally lower than SW.

     bill conduit
     etc.


From [e-mail] Sat Oct 12 12:04:56 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Donald Gray)
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Subject: Re: Hey, Morse Code: Bye Bye
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Porchnoy <[e-mail]> wrote:

>Dr Pepper wrote:
>> the fact (at least in my mind) that the ARRL is a
>> bunch of stodgy old timers that are still stuck in the nineteen
>> thirties.
>       Why? Just because they still support the
>       inclusion of one-hundred-and-fifty-year-
>       old technology (Morse code) as a requirement
>       for higher ham radio licenses?

Good on yer Porchnoy,

I have noticed here in the UK,  that the only people who gripe at the
need to do a morse test are those who are too bloody lazy to learn it!

In rough conditions, Morse is still the most realiable method of radio
communications. The human ear can detect and read an interupted
carrier wave (CW or more corectly ICW) when the same signal strength
am, fm or ssb signal would be totaly unreadable.

BTW: I bet the  "Gripers" uses technology  that is more than 150 years
old....Clothes? shoes? A bed? cups? table/chairs? a light in the house
at night?  etc etc.


Wots rong wid antik teknoligie???? (were thha heel didd eye puth mi
speil chucker?)

;;-->>


Donald Gray
Free Agent V1.0 -
Eudora Lite V1.5.4
Please do not short the output or severe damage will be caused to the fuse.
         (On a Sony power supply leaflet!)



From [e-mail] Sat Oct 12 12:04:57 1996
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In <[e-mail]>
[e-mail] (Donald Gray) writes:
>
>In rough conditions, Morse is still the most realiable method of radio
>communications.

Wow. And all this time the military has been wasting money on FEC and
EDC algorithms like Reed-Solomon, Golay, and simple parity when all
they had to do is beef-up Morse Code training.

I'm sure at one time buggy-whip training was an integral part of
drivers education.

;o)

Steve S.
KAF8111



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From: [e-mail] (D Stark)
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In article <[e-mail]>, Porchnoy <[e-mail]> wr
ote:
>Dr Pepper wrote:
>> the fact (at least in my mind) that the ARRL is a
>> bunch of stodgy old timers that are still stuck in the nineteen
>> thirties.
>        Why? Just because they still support the
>        inclusion of one-hundred-and-fifty-year-
>        old technology (Morse code) as a requirement
>        for higher ham radio licenses?

        And I suppose you think trunking is brand new?  It
was invented over 70 years ago...

        If you were familiar with your topic, you would know
that some Morse requirement is still necessary under the
terms of international treaty. Complain to the
administrations of those other countries while you're at it.

73 de Dave, NF2G


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Porchnoy <[e-mail]> wrote:

>Dr Pepper wrote:
>> the fact (at least in my mind) that the ARRL is a
>> bunch of stodgy old timers that are still stuck in the nineteen
>> thirties.
>       Why? Just because they still support the
>       inclusion of one-hundred-and-fifty-year-
>       old technology (Morse code) as a requirement
>       for higher ham radio licenses?
>--
>       When one has a chance to annoy
>       people, one should do so.
>                    --Oswald Spengler
>               Philosopher of History
 I have been a ham for almost 20 years and when I started, the bands
were still civil. In comes no code and the bands have gone straight
to hell. QRM, cursing, name calling, frequency wars like never before.
Ham radio is just like real life. The country in a whole is morally
bankrupt, and so is ham radio. So go ahead and kill the code and say
goodbye to amateur radio as we knew it for sure. Any idiot can
memorize a question and answer book. The code was somthing special.
Thats why I got my extra class license, because I wanted to take the
20 wpm before they did away with it. Casey N4GKS.



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[e-mail] wrote.......=20
>  I have been a ham for almost 20 years and when I started, the bands
> were still civil. In comes no code and the bands have gone straight
> to hell. QRM, cursing, name calling, frequency wars like never before.

There is something missing here. When did no code ticket holders get
HF privileges?  20, 40 and 80 meters phone has always had it group of
uncivilized operators. At least since 1964 when I first started =
listening
to ham radio operators. Where have you been listening?

> Ham radio is just like real life. The country in a whole is morally
> bankrupt, and so is ham radio.=20

So those holding licenses that require code have higher morals
than no coders?=20

>So go ahead and kill the code and say
> goodbye to amateur radio as we knew it for sure. Any idiot can
> memorize a question and answer book. The code was somthing special.

Any idiot can copy 5 WPM down on paper during the test as dots and =
dashes,
decode it and pass the test. I would also venture to guess that a high =
percentage=20
of Extra, Advanced and General class hams would fail the code test if
they had to take it 6 months after passing.=20

> Thats why I got my extra class license, because I wanted to take the
> 20 wpm before they did away with it.=20

So if code is so good at weeding out the immoral operators why does=20
QST and other publications keep publishing reports of FCC actions
against Extra, Advanced and General class hams that have violated
the rules and levied fines against them?  Infact let's arrange a QSO
up on 14.313 and you can explain to me how code has kept the
morally bankrupt people out of ham radio. That is if we can get
through the jamming, obscenities and malicious QRM on there.

Glenn







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Subject: Re: Hey, Morse Code: Bye Bye
Date: Sun, 06 Oct 1996 16:17:49 -0400
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D Stark wrote:
>         If you were familiar with your topic, you would know
> that some Morse requirement is still necessary under the
> terms of international treaty. Complain to the
> administrations of those other countries while you're at it.
        The whole problem is that the ARRL is trying
        to attract young people to the ham radio hobby
        by emphasizing modern technology aspects like
        satellites, computers, and packet radio.  The
        ARRL fails to mention that after one obtains
        an entry-level ham license, it is necessary
        to learn this massively out-dated bullshit
        known as Morse code just to get on decent HF
        bands and to obtain higher privileges. I am
        familar with my topic.  If you were, you would
        know that the minute the ARRL drops its support
        of the Morse code requirement, the rest of the
        world will follow, and we can make amateur radio
        what it should be:  a means for all the people
        of the world to communicate in friendship.
--
        When one has a chance to annoy
        people, one should do so.
                     --Oswald Spengler
                Philosopher of History


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[e-mail] (D Stark) wrote:

>In article <[e-mail]>, Porchnoy <[e-mail]> w
rote:
>>Dr Pepper wrote:
>>> the fact (at least in my mind) that the ARRL is a
>>> bunch of stodgy old timers that are still stuck in the nineteen
>>> thirties.
>>        Why? Just because they still support the
>>        inclusion of one-hundred-and-fifty-year-
>>        old technology (Morse code) as a requirement
>>        for higher ham radio licenses?

>        And I suppose you think trunking is brand new?  It
>was invented over 70 years ago...

>        If you were familiar with your topic, you would know
>that some Morse requirement is still necessary under the
>terms of international treaty. Complain to the
>administrations of those other countries while you're at it.

>73 de Dave, NF2G
 Good for you dave. N4GKS (former AE4KQ).



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From: [e-mail] (Barry, WA2KLS)
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Porchnoy <[e-mail]> wrote:

>Dr Pepper wrote:
>> the fact (at least in my mind) that the ARRL is a
>> bunch of stodgy old timers that are still stuck in the nineteen
>> thirties.
>       Why? Just because they still support the
>       inclusion of one-hundred-and-fifty-year-
>       old technology (Morse code) as a requirement
>       for higher ham radio licenses?
>--
>       When one has a chance to annoy
>       people, one should do so.
>                    --Oswald Spengler
>               Philosopher of History

I've got to get my 2 cents in here.

I remember when I was a kid during the 50's and I had an old Zenith
console sitting next to my bed. Every nite I'd fall asleep listening
to ham radio operators from all over the world "rag chewing" on AM.
I'd sometimes tune around the bands and hear the dots and dashs of
morse code, and wonder what wonderful secrets these guys were sending
to each other. If only I could understand their language, I could
travel to those distant places and learn about things that I'd only
read about in books.

Then as an adult, I'd gone off to college and then Viet Nam, and
nothing could have been further from my mind then shortwaves and hams
and code. When the war was over, I came home, got married and bought a
house. It was right next door to the biggest antenna farm you ever
saw. And the ham radio bug bit, and bit hard.

Only difference was that this time I could do something about it. And
I did. The code was tough. But you know what? I REALLY wanted to
become a Ham. It meant so much to me. This "rite of passage", this
code.

And I was ready.

I'm sure that alot of you reading this, will be laughing at what I've
written, and will shrug it off as just another "old timer" that wants
to keep the hoby all to himself. Well, that's ok, but it's not quite
true. You see, I haven't been an active ham for about 10 years. For
various reasons. One of which is the quality, or lack thereof, of
people operating on the amateur bands. That, my friends, is partly the
fault of a no-code license.

Unfortunately we've cheapened the hobby by making it too easy. There
were too many old timers dying off, and not enough young people
entering, to fill the vacancies within the hobby. So there was panic
among the ranks. The no-code license was brought in to make it easier
to become a ham. To fill the ranks with quantity, but not with
quality. Then too, the thinking was, that once you got a taste of
amateur radio, you would want to learn the code and receive additional
priveledges. But, that's not happening is it?

True, not every hobby was as difficult to get into as Amateur Radio,
but it was the very fact that it was hard to become a ham, that gave
this hobby it's stature.

Sure there were poor operators before "no code". . .there will always
be bad apples. Amateur Radio is a microcosm, and as such, it parodies
the rest of the world. Both good and bad. But, there are more, many
more, poor operators since "no code" went into effect.

Now, well, now the hobby has fallen into disarray, like a neighborhood
that has started to decay because those that cared, moved out of the
city.

And the exodus continues. . .

Wow, sorry, I kind of got carried away. I didn't mean to use up this
much bandwidth. But I needed to address the issue. My way.

Barry, WA2KLS (still proud to be a ham)







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From: [e-mail] (Ron Katz)
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Yeh great, what next get rid of licensing all together?  Looking at
what happened after no code here in Toronto I'd say ham radio is now
just another form of CB.  No not all No coders are born again CB'ers
but it's close.

I owned and ran a repeater, was involved in RDF and a lot more.  After
the Crap that No code brought in, I gave it all up and invested my
money on Scanners and other monitoring equipment.  Ham radio has
changed forever.

Morse Code is a stepping stone.  If your serious enough, you will
learn it like everyone else. ( or would have )  In my opinion it
filtered out many who were not willing to take the time to learn it
and just wanted a glorified CB to play with.

When they got rid of code they should have increased something else.
Maybe an aptitude test would have been in order!

  - * -



Porchnoy <[e-mail]> wrote:

>Dr Pepper wrote:
>> the fact (at least in my mind) that the ARRL is a
>> bunch of stodgy old timers that are still stuck in the nineteen
>> thirties.
>       Why? Just because they still support the
>       inclusion of one-hundred-and-fifty-year-
>       old technology (Morse code) as a requirement
>       for higher ham radio licenses?
>--
>       When one has a chance to annoy
>       people, one should do so.
>                    --Oswald Spengler
>               Philosopher of History

Ron Katz
News Cameraman
Toronto Ontario
http://www.interlog.com/~ronkatz/
Your source of information for
Scanning the Emergency Services and More.


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From: [e-mail] (Dr Pepper)
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Subject: Re: Hey, Morse Code: Bye Bye
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[e-mail] (Donald Gray) wrote:

>Porchnoy <[e-mail]> wrote:

>>Dr Pepper wrote:
>>> the fact (at least in my mind) that the ARRL is a
>>> bunch of stodgy old timers that are still stuck in the nineteen
>>> thirties.

>>      Why? Just because they still support the
>>      inclusion of one-hundred-and-fifty-year-
>>      old technology (Morse code) as a requirement
>>      for higher ham radio licenses?

When did I say ANYTHING about code?  No, not at all, code requirement
has NOTHING to do with MY OPINION.  Although I consider myself to be a
political conservative, I would be a flaming liberal when compared to
the ARRL. They seem afraid to take a chance, press forward, modernize
their thinking.  I am not the only Ham who feels this way.  {BTW I DID
pass the code test  in 1965.}

>Good on yer Porchnoy,

>I have noticed here in the UK,  that the only people who gripe at the
>need to do a morse test are those who are too bloody lazy to learn it!

>In rough conditions, Morse is still the most realiable method of radio
>communications. The human ear can detect and read an interupted
>carrier wave (CW or more corectly ICW) when the same signal strength
>am, fm or ssb signal would be totaly unreadable.

>BTW: I bet the  "Gripers" uses technology  that is more than 150 years
>old....Clothes? shoes? A bed? cups? table/chairs? a light in the house
>at night?  etc etc.

That was a great job of throwing the switch in the middle of a thread,
Donald.  :-}

>Wots rong wid antik teknoligie???? (were thha heel didd eye puth mi
>speil chucker?)

>;;-->>


>Donald Gray
>Free Agent V1.0 -
>Eudora Lite V1.5.4
>Please do not short the output or severe damage will be caused to the fuse.
>         (On a Sony power supply leaflet!)


Dr Pepper
10 - 2 - 4




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From: [e-mail] (Dr Pepper)
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Subject: Re: Hey, Morse Code: Bye Bye
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[e-mail] (Barry, WA2KLS) wrote:

>Porchnoy <[e-mail]> wrote:

>>Dr Pepper wrote:
>>> the fact (at least in my mind) that the ARRL is a
>>> bunch of stodgy old timers that are still stuck in the nineteen
>>> thirties.
>>      Why? Just because they still support the
>>      inclusion of one-hundred-and-fifty-year-
>>      old technology (Morse code) as a requirement
>>      for higher ham radio licenses?
>>--
>>      When one has a chance to annoy
>>      people, one should do so.
>>                   --Oswald Spengler
>>              Philosopher of History

>I've got to get my 2 cents in here.

>I remember when I was a kid during the 50's and I had an old Zenith
>console sitting next to my bed. Every nite I'd fall asleep listening
>to ham radio operators from all over the world "rag chewing" on AM.
>I'd sometimes tune around the bands and hear the dots and dashs of
>morse code, and wonder what wonderful secrets these guys were sending
>to each other. If only I could understand their language, I could
>travel to those distant places and learn about things that I'd only
>read about in books.

>Then as an adult, I'd gone off to college and then Viet Nam, and
>nothing could have been further from my mind then shortwaves and hams
>and code. When the war was over, I came home, got married and bought a
>house. It was right next door to the biggest antenna farm you ever
>saw. And the ham radio bug bit, and bit hard.

>Only difference was that this time I could do something about it. And
>I did. The code was tough. But you know what? I REALLY wanted to
>become a Ham. It meant so much to me. This "rite of passage", this
>code.

>And I was ready.

>I'm sure that alot of you reading this, will be laughing at what I've
>written, and will shrug it off as just another "old timer" that wants
>to keep the hoby all to himself. Well, that's ok, but it's not quite
>true. You see, I haven't been an active ham for about 10 years. For
>various reasons. One of which is the quality, or lack thereof, of
>people operating on the amateur bands. That, my friends, is partly the
>fault of a no-code license.
>
>Unfortunately we've cheapened the hobby by making it too easy. There
>were too many old timers dying off, and not enough young people
>entering, to fill the vacancies within the hobby. So there was panic
>among the ranks. The no-code license was brought in to make it easier
>to become a ham. To fill the ranks with quantity, but not with
>quality. Then too, the thinking was, that once you got a taste of
>amateur radio, you would want to learn the code and receive additional
>priveledges. But, that's not happening is it?

>True, not every hobby was as difficult to get into as Amateur Radio,
>but it was the very fact that it was hard to become a ham, that gave
>this hobby it's stature.

>Sure there were poor operators before "no code". . .there will always
>be bad apples. Amateur Radio is a microcosm, and as such, it parodies
>the rest of the world. Both good and bad. But, there are more, many
>more, poor operators since "no code" went into effect.

>Now, well, now the hobby has fallen into disarray, like a neighborhood
>that has started to decay because those that cared, moved out of the
>city.

>And the exodus continues. . .

>Wow, sorry, I kind of got carried away. I didn't mean to use up this
>much bandwidth. But I needed to address the issue. My way.

>Barry, WA2KLS (still proud to be a ham)

I agree with you wholeheatedly, Barry.  That was well put. Even though
this was not my original direction, I think you have stated your
position quite well.




Dr Pepper
10 - 2 - 4




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D Stark wrote:>
>         You can't be familiar with your topic because
> obviously you have never tried to listen to 20-meter or
> 75-meter phone!
        Look, pal: Stop telling me what I am familiar with
        and what I am not familiar with!  I hold an Advanced
        Class amateur radio license and have been on 20 meters
        quite frequently.  That's right, I passed their bullshit
        13-word-per-minute code test, and I stll think Morse
        code sucks!


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[e-mail] (Si Ballenger) wrote:

>   The old days are gone. The ham bands are in the same fix as natural
>resources on public lands. Those that want those resources will claim
>that they are under utilized and are used only by an elite few. Relying
>on an elite "code club" to keep the bands from being sold off to some
>big $$$$ outfits by the politicians is lost dream. With todays radio
>technology, the code thing is rapidly becomming a libility in stead of
>an asset. If you want to keep what you have,  you are going to need a
>large voting base to keep the politicians in line. You may have to open
>some parts of the lower bands to the no coders, but maybe having part of
>a band for your exclusive use is better than having no band at all. Ham
>bands and redwoods have one thing in common, once they are gone... they
>are gone! Just ask humpty-dumpty.  ;-)
>
        Well put!  Many years ago I *had* a HAM licence but, after having to put up w
ith
so many individuals with a "High And Mighty" attitude I let it lapse.  (I wond
er
just how many people did this?)  Now I see almost the same `problem?' surfacin
g
again with this rediculous `No Code' hoo haa.  If this keeps up big $ will mos
t
likely triumph and there will be no more HAM bands.

        OK...  Now for *my* `take' on this `tempest in a teapot'.  *I* don't see
*anything* wrong with `code' itself.  *If* an `op' wants to use `code' then s/
he
should be allowed to.  (Just like those `ops' that are keeping AM alive!)
However...  *If* the HAM bands are to be kept `alive' we are going to need to
get *a lot* more people involved!  Now...  With the proliferation of
`alternative' modes of communications *other than* `code' in other areas of
`life' it makes less and less sense for it being a *`major?'* requirement for
a
HAM licence.  `Code' really never has been any `moral leavening or high ground
'!
`Code' has never eliminated `Lids/Bad Ops'.  Neither has `building your own'!
What will and does is `peer pressure' and `self policing' either done `kindly
and gently' or with `appropriate?' stronger means up to and including loss of
licence and equipment via `pushing' the appropriate `regulatory?' agency to
action.  There *also* should be a concerted approach towards reviving and
updating the `Elmer' system.  New ops, whether code or no code licenced, shoul
d
be welcomed and guided by older and more experienced ops.  (*And* there should
be more of a sense of community whether or not *any* individual does or doesn'
t
`meet?' nebulous `standards' of `perfection?')  It *shouldn't* make any
difference whether or not the op is an `appliance operator' or a `homebrewer'.
It *shouldn't* make any difference whether they are a `coder' or `no coder'!
If
this particular hoo ha keeps up the HAM bands will eventually wither away and
end up in the hands of big $.  How many out there bemoan all the `strange stuf
f'
that has appeared on and in our cars?  However...  We still `bite the bullet'
and buy anyway.  We don't try and keep our Model A four popper with the 2
circuit carb, manual advance distributor, and the lousy rings that barely seal
.
How many still cook on woodstoves?  Nope!  We either use `modern?' electric or
gas stoves.  How many still have and use `the little shack out back'?  Nope!
We
have indoor plumbing!  So...  Why is there this insistance about `code'?  Like
all the other `examples' I've put forth there is both no `need?' for it *and*
no
real `roadblock' in place for those who want to use it/them.  (I suppose that
*someone* will try and bring up that `old chestnut' about being stranded with
nothing but the `bare essentials?' and *only* being able to send `code' to be
`rescued'.  Given that even a lot of the `old-timers' have become `appliance
operators' I *don't* think that it really `holds water' anymore.  Maybe if you
are someplace like East Baum Fouk, Egypt or some other `god forsaken' place yo
u
don't belong in the first place and don't have access to other alternative mea
ns
of communications it *might*.  But, with all the alternatives available these
days, it's highly unlikely.)  If the HAM *hobby* is going to survive its going
to take putting aside this and other predjudices and get more people involved!



     Doleo ergo sum,
       Bob Whiston
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This "Code vs. No Code" stuff is getting old. Why do so many see it as
such a black & white issue?  The way it is now makes good sense: code
proficency is not required to get access to the bands on which code is
not used; but is required for the bands where it is.
The percentage of jerks into amateur radio is very small. Some are "no
codes", some have higher class licenses. Thay are the same in one
aspect; they are intolerant of those who disagree with them and are sure
ham radio would be better without the others.


From [e-mail] Sat Oct 12 12:05:13 1996
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From: "Mel Robinson" <[e-mail]>
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Somebody please try this I'm to chicken, the radio is still under warranty
too.

BC890XLT

BC890XLT-800MHZ FULL RESTORE

1. REMOVE ALL CABINET SCREWS.
2. REMOVE 4 FACE PLATE SCREWS AND 1 BRACKET SCREW AT CENTER OF MAIN BOARD.
3. CAREFULLY DEPRESS THE OUTSIDE EDGES OF FACEPLATE SHIELD AND TILT DOWN.
4. UNPLUG J4 AND J5 AND RIBBON CONNECTORS J501 J502 AND J503.
5. REMOVE FACEPLATE AND LOGIC BOARD.
6. POSITION BOARD SO MICROPROSSOE CHIP IS ON LEFT AND MEMORY BATTERY ON
RIGHT.
7. LOCATE THE 3 CHIP RESISTORS AT CHIPS UPPER RIGHT..MARKED 104 AND
   CAREFULLY DESOLDER.
8. INSTALL THE CHIP RESISTOR AT THE 2 EMPTY PADS CLOSEST TO MEMORY BATTERY.
9. REASSEMBLE CAREFULLY IN REVERSE ORDER.
10. TEST BY ENTERING FREQ. AROUND 870 MHZ.




From [e-mail] Sat Oct 12 12:05:15 1996
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From: Ken Koller <[e-mail]>
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You know, I am this close to hitting the unsubscribe key on this group.
All this is is just bitching, whining and complaining, and I've just about
had it. If you want to ramble on back and forth about, what is so damn
difficult about sending it private email? If John Mackey doesn't have a
valid email address, then that should give you an idea about his
intentions and his validity. Don't keep clogging the group with your
stupid childish flame wars. I cannot believe the size of my kill file for
this group, and it's the only group that I even need to use kill files.
ENOUGH ALREADY!


Ken Koller

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From [e-mail] Sat Oct 12 12:05:15 1996
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From: "Robert H. Eisner" <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: alt.radio.scanner,rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: I'm going to Miami for a day! Help with frequencies, Please!~
Date: Wed, 09 Oct 1996 18:03:22 -0400
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[e-mail] wrote:
>
> I will be staying over in Miami for a day before heading out to
> vacation, and would like to listen to my scanner in the BIG city for
> the time I am there. Would some kind scanning Miamian (?) please help
> me out with a list of good active frequencies to listen to while I am
> there, such as law enforcement, fire, ambulance, feds, etc?
>
> Any help would be greatly appreciated, including any radio codes, unit
> identifiers, etc? Please?

Check out the following URLs:

 http://www.shadow.net/~mikef/dadeps.txt

Bob


From [e-mail] Sat Oct 12 12:05:17 1996
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From: [e-mail](BAYCITVIDGRP)
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Subject: Re: John Mackey / Bill Cheek
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In <[e-mail]> Stephen Giessinger
<[e-mail]> writes:
>
>Isn't anyone else tired of seeing half the newsgroup postings coming
from
>one of these two?  I'm new to all, this but please.... It's beginning
to
>look as if we will continue to be victimized by this egotistical
mental
>illness if someone doesn't REMOVE someone's ACCESS!


    knock, knock.....

    whoa ?

    pithy, pithy

    slow

           What a bunch of bull-burgers.  Gee, making the group safe
    from "reality".  I agree, Mackey is the idiot he is.  The Cheek
    Guy don't like takin crap from no one, especially the idiot.  But
    gosh, gee....what harm are they doing you?

     You have choices.  You know what they are.  Why threaten-imply
     when you have the answer before you...?

      You are not being spoon-fed forced to open your eyes beyond
      the Subject Lines....they are not doing false advertising and
      surely not sending you "FORM-Junk E-mail" with their "message"
      on it taking up your space uninvited.

      Get a grip.  Choose to read the post or just keep in clickin'
      until you see "scanner stuff" and then "click" and be saved.

      Come on people.  The Cheek-Guy and the Idiot have a life to
      live here on the internet.  Let them alone.  I can choose to
      read the IDIOT or not.  It don't harm me not to read it. I
      can choose the Check-Guy because I enjoy his attitude and his
      "fuch-you you primadona" stance.

       People...you are lazy.  You expect Big Brother to do your
       choosing for you.  To rid the Group of the "cheek guy" and
       the IDIOT GUY.  What's next: they guy who wants to know what
       a scanner is?

       You really miss the whole point of the Cheek Guy and the
       blithering jibberish-spouting IDIOT Guy....they bring a
       certain "rush" to us all who decide to or not to.  Just
       think of all those times when your family is getting on
       your arse and you need help.

       You turn to the Cheeks Guy and the Blithering Idiot Guy
       for mind-stem stimulation to bring your life into better
       focus.  These two save you from a lot of infirmities.

       They save you from being "bored" ..... they titillate and
       upon their images read you expectorate.  Say, it gives you
       something to do.  Be glad they exist.

       bill conduit
       the "etc" guy


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Subject: Re: John Mackey / Bill Cheek
Date: Thu, 10 Oct 1996 20:53:51 -0700
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John Mackey KA0SSF wrote:
>
> Stephen Giessinger wrote:
>
> > Isn't anyone else tired of seeing half the newsgroup postings coming from
> > one of these two?  I'm new to all, this but please.... It's beginning to
>
> Bill has had a truce proposed to him three times & every time he
> continues
> his attacking.

Please.... rise above all this and choose not to respond.  Peace.


From [e-mail] Sat Oct 12 12:05:21 1996
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From: Giessinger <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: John Mackey / Bill Cheek
Date: Thu, 10 Oct 1996 20:51:05 -0700
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BAYCITVIDGRP wrote:
>
> In <[e-mail]> Stephen Giessinger
> <[e-mail]> writes:
> >
> >Isn't anyone else tired of seeing half the newsgroup postings coming
> from
> >one of these two?  I'm new to all, this but please.... It's beginning
> to
> >look as if we will continue to be victimized by this egotistical
> mental
> >illness if someone doesn't REMOVE someone's ACCESS!
>
>     knock, knock.....
>
>     whoa ?
>
>     pithy, pithy
>
>     slow
>
>            What a bunch of bull-burgers.  Gee, making the group safe
>     from "reality".  I agree, Mackey is the idiot he is.  The Cheek
>     Guy don't like takin crap from no one, especially the idiot.  But
>     gosh, gee....what harm are they doing you?
>
>      You have choices.  You know what they are.  Why threaten-imply
>      when you have the answer before you...?
>
>       You are not being spoon-fed forced to open your eyes beyond
>       the Subject Lines....they are not doing false advertising and
>       surely not sending you "FORM-Junk E-mail" with their "message"
>       on it taking up your space uninvited.
>
>       Get a grip.  Choose to read the post or just keep in clickin'
>       until you see "scanner stuff" and then "click" and be saved.
>
>       Come on people.  The Cheek-Guy and the Idiot have a life to
>       live here on the internet.  Let them alone.  I can choose to
>       read the IDIOT or not.  It don't harm me not to read it. I
>       can choose the Check-Guy because I enjoy his attitude and his
>       "fuch-you you primadona" stance.
>
>        People...you are lazy.  You expect Big Brother to do your
>        choosing for you.  To rid the Group of the "cheek guy" and
>        the IDIOT GUY.  What's next: they guy who wants to know what
>        a scanner is?
>
>        You really miss the whole point of the Cheek Guy and the
>        blithering jibberish-spouting IDIOT Guy....they bring a
>        certain "rush" to us all who decide to or not to.  Just
>        think of all those times when your family is getting on
>        your arse and you need help.
>
>        You turn to the Cheeks Guy and the Blithering Idiot Guy
>        for mind-stem stimulation to bring your life into better
>        focus.  These two save you from a lot of infirmities.
>
>        They save you from being "bored" ..... they titillate and
>        upon their images read you expectorate.  Say, it gives you
>        something to do.  Be glad they exist.
>
>        bill conduit
>        the "etc" guy

You are kidding aren't you?  This is the rec.radio.scanner newsgroup
we're talking about right?  I thought "flaming" was unacceptable, not to
mention boring and a waste of resources.


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From: John Mackey KA0SSF <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: John Mackey / Bill Cheek
Date: Fri, 11 Oct 1996 10:47:57 -0700
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Giessinger wrote:
> You are kidding aren't you?  This is the rec.radio.scanner newsgroup
> we're talking about right?  I thought "flaming" was unacceptable, not to
> mention boring and a waste of resources.


Never mind Bill Conduit, he is just the Newsgroup Idiot.

You are exactly correct, this flaming should not be happening.  BUT,
we have asked Bill Cheek for a true THREE times & he refuses.  Just
last night a forth request was made.  Perhaps Bill Cheek will
cooperate now & go with a truce.




From [e-mail] Sat Oct 12 12:05:22 1996
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Subject: Re: LAPD knocked off the air
Date: 9 Oct 1996 21:01:37 GMT
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The news reported that the system failed due to a "microchip" overheating
and that officials say that it can happen again at anytime.  Rest assured,
the "new" system will be in place by 2004.  Next time you talk to your
neighborhood officers, get their pager number...you may need it!!!

Karl Dahlquist
[e-mail]


From [e-mail] Sat Oct 12 12:05:25 1996
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From: Ken Koller <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: LAPD knocked off the air
Date: Thu, 10 Oct 1996 15:05:14 -0700
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On Wed, 9 Oct 1996, Earl wrote:

> Brent Corbin wrote:
> >
> > Pat Pope ([e-mail]) wrote:
> > : On Monday October 7, at around 10:00pm LAPD was knocked off the air.
> >         [...]
> >
> > : Does anyone know have any more details, or know how this happened? How c
ould the whole
> > : system have a significant single point of failure?  Are the Astro radios
 so low powered
> > : they can't talk to the station on simplex?  Could an earthquake cause a
similar outage?
> >
> > Darn - I was listening to the CHP trying to catch window-smashers and mana
ged
> > to miss all the 'fun'  8*(   For what it's worth, at or about the same tim
e
> > TV channel 18 dropped signal for about 30 seconds, and sometime during the
> > same program I was watching on the tube, the CHP's state-wide repeater sys
tem
> > started freaking out (it wasn't clear whether this was a local problem, or
> > on a link)...    Power Surge?   Alien Visitation 8*) ?
> >
> > How long did the system stay down?  Could you hear the div hq's trying to
> > raise units on simplex, or were they generally knocked off the air?
> You said something about "the CHP's state-wide repeater system" could
> you explain more about this system?  I know San Diego has gone to a
> simalcast system here in San Diego along with repeating the mobile
> channel for all of the San Diego frequencies including the new Blue-1.

From what I understand, when the system went down they were still able to
talk simplex to each individual station, so the radio traffic came in and
out of there after being directed I guess by phone from the LAPD dispatch
center. This is how LASO works as well, each station has thier own 911
desk, and they route calls from Sheriff Comm Center to the individual
stations routinely instead of having the dispatchers there handle them.
I'm not really sure on all the details of it, but I have a friend who
works the desk at a LASO station and I think that's how he expalined it
to me.


Ken Koller

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From [e-mail] Sat Oct 12 12:05:26 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Brent Corbin)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: LAPD knocked off the air
Date: 11 Oct 1996 19:16:32 GMT
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You know, actually this is a pretty good example of the sort of
disaster-waiting-to-happen scenarios usually associated with trunked
radio systems.  Goes to show that a conventional system having a poorly
designed architecture can be just as vunerable as a trunked system...





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From: [e-mail] (Brent Corbin)
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Subject: Re: LAPD knocked off the air
Date: 10 Oct 1996 16:13:37 GMT
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On Wed, 9 Oct 1996, Earl wrote:
> You said something about "the CHP's state-wide repeater system" could
> you explain more about this system?  I know San Diego has gone to a
> simalcast system here in San Diego along with repeating the mobile
> channel for all of the San Diego frequencies including the new Blue-1.
>
>       Thank you

The statewide system used to belong to the California State Police,
until it was disbanded a litle while back.  In southern Ca,
the repeaters sit on 460.375.  In central and northern Ca, the
repeaters sit on 460.450 - except in the Bay Area, where the freq
is 453.825.  A variety of state enforcement operations use the
system with the CHP playing net control (not all the users are
happy with the new arrangement, but that's another can o' worms).

Most CHP units do not carry 453/460 radios (some do - presumably
supervisors, etc  --- I saw a CHP unit the other night that had
5 antennae, a low-band, a UHF, a VHF-Hi and 2 800 MHz).

LAPD has dropped this frequency into their new radios, and occasionally
use it for liason with CHP dispatch (to report disabled vehicles, etc).

That's the short scoop --- enjoy!




From [e-mail] Sat Oct 12 12:05:28 1996
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From: LWilson
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Subject: Mackey operates like a Novice
Date: Thu, 10 Oct 1996 21:06:08 GMT
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Tell us again your excuses for smoking Waynes system
and smoking your Micor because you couldn't get the positive
and negative wires straight. What a newbie moron. Looks as
if all those credentials you have aren't worht squat chump.
Even a 8 year old knows to check polarity and not to assume
things in such a situation. HAHAHAHA. Still deny it FOOL?


Larry W



From [e-mail] Sat Oct 12 12:05:29 1996
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From: John Mackey KA0SSF <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: Mackey operates like a Novice
Date: Thu, 10 Oct 1996 20:52:45 -0700
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LWilson wrote:

> Tell us again your excuses for smoking Waynes system
> and smoking your Micor because you couldn't get the positive
> and negative wires straight. What a newbie moron. Looks as
> if all those credentials you have aren't worht squat chump.
> Even a 8 year old knows to check polarity and not to assume
> things in such a situation. HAHAHAHA. Still deny it FOOL?


Interesting, you are posting under an alias & won't let your
e-mail address or full name or callsign be known.

Perhaps you should ask the licensee of that repeater at the
time, Justin Bousquet KC7FFX (now AB7NG).  He asked for my
assistance.  (Wayne didn't own the repeater, he owned the
power supply which is all that smoked)  Perhaps you should
ask Wayne why he wired up the power supply with the positive
(red) & negative (black) leads reversed and NO fuse
protection in the system!!!

Now who's the novice, FOOL?????




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John Mackey KA0SSF  wrote
> Richard Kendrick wrote:
> > My inbox had 146 messages today for rec.radio.scanner.
>   --SNIP--
> > Less than three percent were from Bill Cheek (4).
>
> Well that is a good sign, it sounds like Bill is getting the message.


No, it looks like he is ignoring your silly attacks. When are
you going to get the message. You talk the talk but still crawl
like a scum snake. What next trash mouth?

Posting Score update -
Mackey - 74
Cheek  - 13

Larry
Head Topic Counter



From [e-mail] Sat Oct 12 12:05:31 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Richard Kendrick)
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Subject: Re: Mackey's Verbosity
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John Mackey KA0SSF <[e-mail]> wrote:

>Richard Kendrick wrote:

>> My inbox had 146 messages today for rec.radio.scanner.
>  --SNIP--
>> Less than three percent were from Bill Cheek (4).

>Well that is a good sign, it sounds like Bill is getting the message.

Seems I'm not the only person who has noticed the disparity between
quantity and content from Mackey. In another post from
[e-mail], Subject: Mackey King of Babble,
Date: Thu, 10 Oct 1996 19:04:08 GMT, he wrote:

>Of the last 511 messages on my server the score stands at

>Mackey - 66
>Cheek  - 13

>Go figure. Only three of Mackey's messages even came close to
>being on topic for this NG. Over half of Cheeks were. Go figure.

So what message might that be, John?



Richard Kendrick CET WA7TWI           |
Amateur Radio Extra Class             |  Do not adjust your mind, there
QRP #4129/G-QRP #8591/MI-QRP #M-1412  |  is a fault in reality.
Mesa, AZ  email: [e-mail]  |



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From: John Mackey KA0SSF <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: Mackey's Verbosity
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LWilson wrote:

> No, it looks like he is ignoring your silly attacks. When are
> you going to get the message. You talk the talk but still crawl
> like a scum snake. What next trash mouth?

And he isn't making trouble for this NG anymore either.

Did your mother raise you stupid or did you just turn out that way?


How come you won't use your real name, call, or e-mail address?



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From: John Mackey KA0SSF <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: Mackey's Verbosity
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Richard Kendrick wrote:

> So what message might that be, John?

Perhaps Bill has learned a lesson & now is willing to accept that
truce that he had declined previous times.

That sounds like the message.




From [e-mail] Sat Oct 12 12:05:33 1996
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The Idiot Mackey crys like a girly boy

> LWilson wrote:
>
> > No, it looks like he is ignoring your silly attacks. When are
> > you going to get the message. You talk the talk but still crawl
> > like a scum snake. What next trash mouth?
>
> And he isn't making trouble for this NG anymore either.

The only trouble maker is the IDIOT Mackey.

> Did your mother raise you stupid or did you just turn out that way?

Typical Idiot Mackey, does what he accuses Cheek of.

> How come you won't use your real name, call, or e-mail address?


I do post my real name. Can't you read headers the IDIOT Mackey?
I don't have a call the IDIOT Mackey. Why is it important?
No E-mail good for the IDIOT Mackey, good for me. So what?
You are still the IDIOT Mackey.

Updated score
IDIOT Mackey - 94
Cheek        - 19

Larry Wilson - No call
Head IDIOT Mackey Scorekeeper



From [e-mail] Sat Oct 12 12:05:34 1996
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From: LWilson
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Subject: Re: Mackey's Verbosity
Date: Thu, 10 Oct 1996 23:49:50
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The IDIOT John Mackey KA0SSF gurgs.....
> LWilson wrote:>
> > Tell us again your excuses for smoking Waynes system
> > and smoking your Micor because you couldn't get the positive
> > and negative wires straight. What a newbie moron. Looks as
                       **deleted text**

> Interesting, you are posting under an alias & won't let your
> e-mail address or full name or callsign be known.

No alias Idiot Mackey, real name. No callsign IDIOT Mackey, is it required?
Full name, header say LWilson and signature Larry Idiot Mackey can't figure it
?

> Perhaps you should ask the licensee of that repeater at the
> time, Justin Bousquet KC7FFX (now AB7NG).  He asked for my
> assistance.  (Wayne didn't own the repeater, he owned the
> power supply which is all that smoked)

IDIOT Mackey no mention Micor smoked also. How come IDIOT Mackey?

>Perhaps you should
> ask Wayne why he wired up the power supply with the positive
> (red) & negative (black) leads reversed and NO fuse
> protection in the system!!!

IDIOT Mackey forget to mention IDIOT Mackey wasn't using fuse
when IDIOT Mackey smoked Micor. Why not IDIOT Mackey?

> Now who's the novice, FOOL?????

The IDIOT Mackey is FOOL and quite dumb.

Larry Wilson
Tracker of IDIOT Mackey




From [e-mail] Sat Oct 12 12:05:35 1996
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From: John Mackey KA0SSF <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: Mackey's Verbosity
Date: Fri, 11 Oct 1996 10:57:23 -0700
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LWilson wrote:

> The IDIOT Mackey talks but is just a little girly boy hiding behind a fake
> mailer. He knows he could never hold onto an account if he posted by normal

hahahahahahahhahahhahhahahahha, I've had the same fidonet account for a
year
you fool.   heheehehehehehehahhahahahahahaaha.  Hey speaking of hiding
behind
fake mailers, how come you won't give you real name, real e-mail
address,
or callsign on these lie filled messages you've been sending.  Now who's
hiding?   heheheheheheehehehehe


> He has admitted
> to having to pay for sex,

Really?  when?


> smoked somebody's repeater system,

When & Who's?


> smoked his own UHF system

I did????  When & which one??


> can't even install an antenna without it crapping out in 10 days.

Hmm, if a new antenna craps out in 10 days it sounds defective to me.


> the IDIOT Mackey touch your power supply. He don't know positive from negati
ve.

Yea, I guess you're right.  I should have known that Wayne's power
supply
would be wired backwards with the red leads being negative & the black
leads
being positive.


You are a coward & a fool.

A coward is not afraid to itentify himself.




From [e-mail] Sat Oct 12 12:05:36 1996
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Be cautious of buying from this guy.  I made him and offer on his WS-1000.
He accepted only to forward a later e-mail to tell me he got a higher bid
from someone else.  Backed out of the deal entirely.



From [e-mail] Sat Oct 12 12:05:37 1996
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From: "Barry Burke Jr." <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Mobile scanning antennae - recommendations?
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Does anybody have any recommendations for a good mobile scanning antenna?



Here's my needs  -   Mostly UHF public service monitoring, except for my state
's PD which is STILL on VHF-lo.

Also,  This antenna will be going on a brand-new pickup, so I'd rather NOT dri
ll holes in the sheet metal
to mount it.  I'd really like a non-marking mag mount, or a glass mount.

Last question, are the glass mounts ANY better than the better rubber-duckies?
  I don't want to spend
the bucks if I'm not going to see much of an improvement over a set-mounted an
tenna.


This is for a BC-200 & Pro-2006


Thanks,

Barry Burke Jr.


From [e-mail] Sat Oct 12 12:05:38 1996
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From: [e-mail] (m. mattson)
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"Barry Burke Jr." <[e-mail]> wrote:

>Does anybody have any recommendations for a good mobile scanning antenna?

A mag-mount, bottom loaded CB antenna (with coil removed), trimmed to
fit your frequncey bands, has worked well for me.

Mark

The truth as I perceive it to be.
Your perception will be different.




From [e-mail] Sat Oct 12 12:05:39 1996
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Hello Barry,

I use the Radio Snack 20-012, which costs $29.95. It works quite well on
low band. I've used a 200XLT and the 2004 on it along w/a freq counter.

The antenna can be tuned a bit and I followed the instructions of
someone who tuned one to allow mine to give me better results on the Fed
VHF band. It works very well in the VHF band.

UHF and 800's are ok but I can't tell you about the performance specs in
these bands. I've used it w/the 200XLT, which as you know has very poor
800 reception. It does help, but any outside antenna will help the
800's.

Perhaps someone will comment on the UHF ability and if this antenna can
be tuned in that band also. BTW, I've had mine for about 6 yrs, never
had any problems with it or any connections. You will want to get a BNC
adapter though since it only comes with the Motorola plug.

Regards,
LGS


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In article <[e-mail]>, "Barry Burke Jr." <[e-mail]>
writes:

>
>Does anybody have any recommendations for a good mobile scanning antenna?
>
>
>
>Here's my needs  -   Mostly UHF public service monitoring, except for my
>state's PD which is STILL on VHF-lo.
>
>

Try Groves NOTENNA.
Doesn't show at all I get good reception from 29 thru 900 mhz.
cheers


From [e-mail] Sat Oct 12 12:05:41 1996
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From: "M.J.deHaan" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Mod.to freq.range of scanner
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A modification in frequencie range of your scanner will be
very difficult.
Not to say it is not cost effective.
                          Martin.



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I'm thinking about getting this scanner but I would like information
on how to open it up to get more frequencies.

Please send me any information about the model #2035.


Thank You,

Ryan

also I own a Pro 2032 Radio Shack, would appreciate and info
on modifing this model.
`[1;35;40mNet-Tamer V 1.06 - Test Drive



From [e-mail] Sat Oct 12 12:05:43 1996
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In article <325d5a14.1657190@192.188.72.19>, [e-mail] wrote:

> "E. Scott Sykes" <[e-mail]> wrote:
>
> >Bill Cheek wrote:
> >>
> >> [e-mail] (Chuck Slaten) wrote:
> >>
> >> >Does anyone have the Mods for the New Radio Shack 2042 Scanner.
> >> >If so please leave a reply..Thanks de KB8PDR
> >>
> >> "The" mods?  Which "ones" do you mean?  Cellular?  Not possible.
> >> What else?
>
> >Optoelectronics OS535 is a MOD and will allow cellular when computer
> >controlled.
>
> Oh no it won't!  That would be illegal for them to peddle it that way.
> If there are "unlock" codes for the software, fine....but the user
> won't know how to get them.  And besides, hundreds of bucks for a
> cellular mod?  You've got to be kidding?

The Opto535 sold in Canada and probably elsewhere will tune cellular
without need of the unlock code. The code is relatively easy to get, in any
case. It is often posted here. Buying an Opto just to get cellular doesn't
make sense, though. The real value is computer control--the cell ability is
just a bonus.

>
> Also.....Mr. Slaten asked for "the mods" for the 2042.  That strongly
> implies he wasn't looking for a commercial thingamabob.

Seems that way to me too. What surprises me is the number of people who buy
expensive scanners like the 2035 and 2042 and after the fact ask about
mods. When I spend that kind of money, I like to do my investigating before
getting out the plastic!
>
> :-)
>
> Bill Cheek
> Scannist Extraordinaire

--
Michael Alexander
[e-mail]


From [e-mail] Sat Oct 12 12:05:44 1996
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From: [e-mail] (JOE THOMAS)
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Subject: Need Northern N.J. Scanner Freqs.
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Hello,

I am looking for scanner freqs. in northern N.J. P/D,F/D,Troopers etc.
A while back i was given a www. site by a kind person but of course i
lost it.
If you could help please E-Mail me at [e-mail].
Thanks a billion.

73.  Joe  KG2FX



From [e-mail] Sat Oct 12 12:05:45 1996
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To: JOE THOMAS <[e-mail]>

JOE THOMAS wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> I am looking for scanner freqs. in northern N.J. P/D,F/D,Troopers etc.
> A while back i was given a www. site by a kind person but of course i
> lost it.
> If you could help please E-Mail me at [e-mail].
> Thanks a billion.
>
> 73.  Joe  KG2FX

Joe,

check out the following URL:

 http://www.li.net/~j4dice/frequencies/NewJersey/

Bob


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From: Don Coco <[e-mail]>
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Subject: New Chanel On Dal.net
Date: Thu, 10 Oct 1996 08:31:48 -0700
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I Invite you to chat in real time on a new chanel called #radio_scanner
which will operate Evenings for North America.  It can be reached on irc
dal.net and I hope to meet you their.  We will chat about anything
relating to Scanners and Frequencies.  Please give this new chanel a
try.  I'm located in Sacramento California.



From [e-mail] Sat Oct 12 12:05:46 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Barry Saxon)
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Subject: Re: NOAA 137 MHz Reception and Decoding
Date: Sat, 5 Oct 1996 12:59:48 GMT
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In article <531389$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Kevin Kibbe) writ
es:
>From: [e-mail] (Kevin Kibbe)
>Subject: NOAA 137 MHz Reception and Decoding
>Date: Thu, 03 Oct 1996 19:14:05 GMT

>Looking for people who have made and or use equipment to receive and
>decode the weather data from the NOAA satellites.

>I would like to know what is good (in the low price range) and what is
>not. Mostly I would like to build as much as possible but would love
>to find ready may PC boards. (If such a thing could be found!)

I picked up premade boards at Dayton for an APT decoder that works with JVFAX.

I've got them mostly populated, but have to work on the case and get a few
more parts.  The article is in the March 1996 QST, p35.  Towards the end is
the address for a circuit board supplier, FAR Circuits.

Good luck.
Barry







From [e-mail] Sat Oct 12 12:05:47 1996
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From: Rolf Mathison <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: NOAA 137 MHz Reception and Decoding
Date: Mon, 07 Oct 1996 08:40:47 -0700
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George F. wrote:
>
>
> How much bandwidth is needed?  I have a PRO-60 and PRO-2006 both of which
> have WFM, would that give enough bandwidth?
>
> Thanks,
> GeorgeGeorge,

       As I recall, standard receivers come with two bandwidths,
too narrow and too wide....
       However, there is no harm in trying (the interface is cheap
enough). If its too narrow the picture will be too dark if too wide
it will appear "washed out" with little contrast.  BUT...you can
probably enhance the pictures with a picture editing program. Most
such programs have an "equalize" function which can help restore
the contrast.

Regards,

Rolf


From [e-mail] Sat Oct 12 12:05:48 1996
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From: Rolf Mathison <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: NOAA 137 MHz Reception and Decoding
Date: Fri, 11 Oct 1996 19:33:54 -0400
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Andrew Syred wrote:
>
> In article <53bcc9$[e-mail]>, Kevin Kibbe
> <[e-mail]> writes
> >
> For Freqs you will want to try 137.50 137.4000 137.7700 136.7700
> >137.8500 and get a copy of the satellite tracking software called:
> >STSPLUS look for a file called SOP9637a.zip You will need that to
>
> What transmits on 137.77 & 136.77. Never heard of these, sure the're
> correct?
>
> Transmission:
>
> NOAA 12         137.50mHz (morning and evening passes)
> NOAA 14         137.62mHz (midday passes)
> MET 3-5         137.85mHz (currently on as afternoon passes)
> MET 2-21        137.85mHz (currently off)
> MET 3-6         137.80mHz (currently off)
> Sich1 & Okean4  137.40mHz (really interesting images but transmission
> intermittant - schedule available off web)
Andrew,

NOAA sats transmit beacon data on 136.77 and 137.77

Regards,
Rolf


From [e-mail] Sat Oct 12 12:05:49 1996
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From: Koert Koelman <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Oct 12 Radio Auction San Mateo CA
Date: Thu, 10 Oct 1996 22:59:07 -0700
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On October 12, 1996, the Palo Alto Amateur Radio Association
(PAARA) will hold its 45st annual auction and flea market at the
San Mateo Shriners Center, 1925 Elkhorn Court, San Mateo, CA.
Doors open at 7:30 A.M. and the auction will start around 9:30
A.M.

Ham radio gear, electronic parts and test equipment is likley to
change hands at bargain prices.  Raffle prizes will be offered
and coffee & donuts will be served.  All in all it will be a lot
of fun for those of you who have the post Foothill Flea Market
blues.

Flea market table space is available at $10 per table.  Auction
charges are 10% of the sales price (buy-back subject to $5/max.
charge per lot).  Equipment donations are welcomed by the club.
Proceeds benefit PAARA.

Directions to the Shriners' Center.  From HWY 101 or 280, take
the HWY 92 to the El Camino Real South exit.  On the El Camino
Real travel to 20th Avenue, where you'll turn right.  One block
and you'll see Elkhorn Court.  Talk-in frequency is 147.45
simplex.

Please, note the location this year ... it is in San Mateo.  See
you there.

Koert KC6WCI


From [e-mail] Sat Oct 12 12:05:50 1996
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From: "Jeffrey Miller" <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Off topic but interesting TV Show Call Letters
Date: 10 Oct 1996 22:10:10 GMT
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I was watching an old rerun of Emergency! and looked up the call letters
they were using KMG-365 and they are actually used in LA where the show is
based and where all the incidents take place with a unit called Squad 51
and Station 51.
Anyone else come across this on a TV show aside from Cops or Rescue 911?
.
One other question what sections of LA does KMG-365 Cover and is there
really
a squad 51 Rescue/Paramedic unit in LA County?

Just Curious
[e-mail]


From [e-mail] Sat Oct 12 12:05:51 1996
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From: John Mackey KA0SSF <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: Open letter to B. Cheek & any others concerned
Date: Fri, 11 Oct 1996 10:59:19 -0700
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tyler wrote:
> Well, Mr. Mackey, knowbody else cares and this could have been

Hey Mr. Know-it-all Tyler, that is "nobody", not "knowbody".



From [e-mail] Sat Oct 12 12:05:52 1996
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From: [e-mail]
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Subject: Opto CX12
Date: Thu, 10 Oct 1996 21:15:14 -0700
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I just bought a used Optoelectronics CX 12 (Not the CX 12AR) interface. The gu
y also
gave me the FFC adapter for the 8000.  Does this make it a CX12AR now or are t
here
internal differences between the CX12 and CX12AR?  The CX12 lets me upload and

download info the the 8000 but I have problems when I use it scanning on the P
C.
I have a stereo cable going from the "Data" jack on the FFC adapter to the fir
st jack
on the CX12 and another stereo cable from the "Squelch" jack on the FFC to the
 second
jack on the CX12, and it still won't work.  I do have the switch on the correc
t
setting.  Is the CX12 capable of using the squelch signal?
--



Greg Ottria, KE6PTP
Castro Valley, California
E-Mail: [e-mail]
1996 Sea Doo GTX
"A man who is smiling when things go wrong
 has thought of someone he can blame"


From [e-mail] Sat Oct 12 12:05:53 1996
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From: [e-mail] (RfSam)
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Subject: OPTOELECTRONICS R-10 INTERCEPTOR  10-7-96
Date: 7 Oct 1996 08:02:37 -0400
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OPTOELECTRONICS R-10 INTERCEPTOR & APS-104 PRE-SELECTOR
R-10 INTERCEPTOR (NEAR FIELD RECEIVER): FREQUENCY RANGE - 30MHz TO 2GHz
APS-104 PRE-SELECTOR: FREQUENCY RANGE 10 - 1000MHz CONTINUOUS
BOTH ARE BEING SOLD FOR  $625  ( about $1300 from OPTO )
E- MAIL IF INTERESTED   [e-mail]


From [e-mail] Sat Oct 12 12:05:54 1996
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From: John Pelura III <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Outdoor antenna
Date: Wed, 09 Oct 1996 17:10:17 -0500
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I need to purchase an outdoor antenna that I will connect to my 200XLT.
Does anyone have any suggestions. I will be listening to mostly fire on
low band, police on highband, and state police on 800 band, so I need
something that is all around good. I live in a suburban area, the
terrain is mostly flat with with houses as the only obstructions. I live
in south jersey about 35 miles from Philly, PA.
Thanks for any assistance.
-john


From [e-mail] Sat Oct 12 12:05:55 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Jeff Zeman)
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John Pelura III <[e-mail]> wrote:

>I need to purchase an outdoor antenna that I will connect to my 200XLT.
>Does anyone have any suggestions. I will be listening to mostly fire on
>low band, police on highband, and state police on 800 band, so I need
>something that is all around good. I live in a suburban area, the
>terrain is mostly flat with with houses as the only obstructions. I live
>in south jersey about 35 miles from Philly, PA.
>Thanks for any assistance.
>-john

John,

I've had good luck with the inexpensive Scantenna and the Channel
Master Monitenna for the ranges you listed above.I think Grove sells
the Scantenna. You'll probably need an attenuator if you plan on using
it with a 200 Xlt. I've never had good luck hooking a 200 XLt to an
external antenna. Maybe your situation is better.

Jeff



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From: "Robert H. Eisner" <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: Overseas scanning
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David P. Walton <[e-mail]> wrote:
>
> I'm thinking of buying a used AR8000.  Problem is I may be selected for a
> job in Germany.  Does anyone know what scanning activities can be found in
> Heidelberg and surrounding towns in Germany?  I only speak english and
> don't want to spring for a scanner if I can't understand the language!!!

Hi David,

you may want to post this question on de.alt.radio-scanner (if your ISP
carries it).

Bob


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From: Clay Scott <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Palo Alto area freq's needed
Date: Fri, 11 Oct 1996 10:48:38 -0700
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Sorry to bomb the list with this request.  I am leaving for Palo Alto, CA
on Sunday the 13th.  I have run out of time at work to search through the
web sites I have bookmarked (my home system still hasn't recovered from
the lightning strike!).  So, if some kind soul has a ready list of
frequencies they could email to me today (Friday) I would be very
greatful.

                                Thanks,
                                [e-mail]


From [e-mail] Sat Oct 12 12:05:57 1996
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From: "E. W.  Balinski" <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Philly Frequency Data Needed
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Hello,

   I will be travelling to the Philadelphia PA area
and King of Prussia in particular.  Does anyone
have any info on the local channels used there ??
I am looking for Police, Fire, and buff
channels.

Thanks
Gene WA1UXA
[e-mail]



From [e-mail] Sat Oct 12 12:05:58 1996
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From: [e-mail]
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Subject: Re: Police Moble Data Terminals
Date: 11 Oct 1996 18:16:38 GMT
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>   [e-mail] writes:
>  Howdy,
>
>  I'm a photojournalist working in the Los Angeles area and our local law enf
orcement agencies
>  are all using moble data terminals in their vehicles to send typed messages
 to one another.
>  I've heard it mentioned that you can scan those frequencies with a scanner
and patch the
>  signal to your pc and have it decoded and displayed.  Someone even told me
you could do
>  this with pager signals and watch the numbers scroll by on the screen.  Doe
s anyone have
>  information on doing this and what software or hardware is used for the pc?
  Is anyone doing
>  this in the Los Angeles area?
>
>  Rich
>  [e-mail]
>
>>>>
howdy again,

I've been told this is illegal, but I've also heard from journalist in other a
reas that their local police
departments have programed radios for news media organizations so they can mon
itor at least some
(they like to keep their tac channels private) of their "scrambled" frequencie
s.  I'd sure like to hear
more about this from anyone who knows for sure.  Keep in mind I'm not really i
nto the tech side of
scanning, just do so as part of my job.

Thanks,
Rich
[e-mail]


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From: [e-mail]
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Subject: PRO  2032
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For sale pro 2032 scanner 200 Channels with Cellular mod ,hyper scan &
Mobil ant, good cond $130.00  Im in so Calif. E-Mail to
[e-mail]


From [e-mail] Sat Oct 12 12:06:00 1996
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From: Daniel Mark <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Pro 2004 display problem
Date: Sun, 06 Oct 1996 19:55:21 -0700
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My Realistic 2004 scanner display is scrambled after start-up.
Functions are, however, unaffected.
After I press reset button on back of scanner, all is back to normal
until I shut off and restart. Then the problem repeats itself. Any
permanent solution to this annoying problem??

Thanks
Dan
[e-mail]


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From: [e-mail] (Bill Cheek)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Pro 2004 display problem
Date: Fri, 11 Oct 1996 14:34:40 GMT
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Daniel Mark <[e-mail]> wrote:

>My Realistic 2004 scanner display is scrambled after start-up.
>Functions are, however, unaffected.
>After I press reset button on back of scanner, all is back to normal
>until I shut off and restart. Then the problem repeats itself. Any
>permanent solution to this annoying problem??

One of the more likely scenarios is that one or more solder joints on
the Logic/CPU board are going defective.  You could try resoldering
some of them in the vicinity of the CX-501 clock resonator and see
if that does it..........  Otherwise, see the below excerpt from my
FAQ for a broader view of what you might be dealing with.

Bill

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============[ From the FAQ - copyrighted 1996] ===============

034: My PRO-2004 has problems, first mild and now severe.  It
     has been repaired several times.  Can you fix it?

    There is a distinct possibility this PRO-2004 has problems
    with defective solder joints.  Back in 1986, there was a
    production run of the PRO-2004 manufactured with a defective
    wave soldering machine.  At first, it was only marginally
    defective, but it worsened and degraded with time.

    The result, by the time the malfunctioning machine was
    discovered, was that many defective PRO-2004's had been shipped
    to market.  Some immediately failed within the warranty period
    and were repaired or replaced.  Others didn't fail until after
    the warranty expired, and were either repaired or junked.  Some
    didn't fail for years.........

    Failures appear to come in waves.....periodic rashes.  Defective
    solder joints are a serious problem, because the radio can be
    fixed only to the extent that it is broken.  Repaired solder
    joints today have no bearing or relationship to those headed for
    failure in a week, a month, or a year.  There is no economical
    way to repair them all in one fell swoop.  A PRO-2004 with
    defective solder joints is very likely to develop more problems
    with the passing of time.  There can be no guarantees against
    subsequent related or unrelated failures.

    With that in mind, I do such repairs, but I cannot guarantee
    that other failures won't occur.  Costs of repair can be high,
    and I would estimate the first repair tag to be $100 plus return
    shipping. I know, it's a bum deal, but I can't do any better than
    that except to offer to buy the unit for my repair parts bin.

    I pay $25 plus shipping for defective PRO-2004's in reasonably
    clean condition.  (No basket cases....)  You might consider this
    as an alternative to continued repair bills.

==============================================================



From [e-mail] Sat Oct 12 12:06:02 1996
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From: [e-mail] (johanne paquin)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: PRO 2032
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Date: Thu, 10 Oct 96 09:41:10 -0300
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would a DX-392 considered box/manual/no scratches



From [e-mail] Sat Oct 12 12:06:02 1996
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From: [e-mail]
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Pro 2035 and OptoScan 535. Do they work wll together?
Date: 9 Oct 1996 19:14:52 GMT
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Scott West ([e-mail]) wrote:

: The manual is pretty straight forward.  Two things that I would suggest
: are to use a new nibbler, (R/S P/N 64-823), and to wear some work gloves
: while doing the nibbling of the metal case.

Can it be installed without making new holes, for example putting it in
one of those Radio Shack project cases, while extending the wiring
between the case and the scanner?  Or are there hardware connections
which make it essential to put the OS535 inside the scanner itself?


--
--Patrick

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From [e-mail] Sat Oct 12 12:06:03 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Michael Alexander)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Pro 2035 and OptoScan 535. Do they work wll together?
Date: Thu, 10 Oct 1996 09:16:16 -0400
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In article <[e-mail]>, Rob Kling <[e-mail]> wrote:

> I am interested in knowing what happens to my 2035's memory when I use
the 535? Can I program the onboard 2035 memories from the 535? Can I
> use the 2035,  without a computer,  when I have a 535 installed? I mean I
spend 300 dollars for 1000 memories, I would like to use them:)
> From talking to Opto Electronics people, I am starting to think I could
buy the 535,  attach a PLL and I could have a radio!
>
> Rob Kling
> N8YBV

No, you can't program the scanner. Yes, you can use the scanner, even with
the Opto installed and without a computer. The number of channels in the
scanner is irrelevant when you are running it by computer. The interface
will allow you to decode PLL and DTMF tones.

--
Michael Alexander
[e-mail]


From [e-mail] Sat Oct 12 12:06:04 1996
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From: Bob Childers <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: PRO 2035 code
Date: Sun, 06 Oct 1996 16:47:56 -0400
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Where might one find the code to light up 800 on the 2035 ???


From [e-mail] Sat Oct 12 12:06:05 1996
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From: (Patriot)
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On Sun, 06 Oct 1996 16:47:56 -0400, Bob Childers
<[e-mail]> wrote:

>Where might one find the code to light up 800 on the 2035 ???


Bob, There *ain't* one. You have 2 or 3 options. 2 of them require
replacing the cpu, the other is full control with a PC, interface
board and software (a great option for monitoring buff's) but it
depends on your pocket book and how important that useless banter is
worth to you.

Still, the 2035 is a great scanner.

Patriot


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From: [e-mail] (Blue dot 9)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: PRO 2035 code
Date: 10 Oct 1996 02:42:19 -0400
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In article <[e-mail]>,
[e-mail] (Michael Alexander) writes:

>The code specifically unlocks the Opto 535 interface, which can be
>installed in the PRO2035 or 42. Buying a $300 (or is that one also on
sale
>with the Opto 456 for $200 too?) interface to listen to cellular
obviously
>does not make much sense.

The OS-456, and OS-535 are both at $199 at OPTOELECTRONICS.

Dave
(Scanner Flatulaire)



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From: [e-mail] (Barry, WA2KLS)
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Subject: PRO-2003*SOLD*
Date: Tue, 08 Oct 1996 03:44:54 GMT
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The PRO-2003 has been sold. The PRO-2011 is still available at $50 +
shipping. Regards, Barry, WA2KLS



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From: Jeff Bertholdi <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Pro-2035 Mod?
Date: Thu, 10 Oct 1996 23:39:15 -0500
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How about a straight answer.  Is the Opto the only way to get continuous
coverage on the Pro-2035?

Is there no other part replacement that can be done to get the
continuous coverage?

Jeff


From [e-mail] Sat Oct 12 12:06:08 1996
From: [e-mail] (Jonathan Clough)
Subject: Re: Pro-2035 Mod?
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In article <[e-mail]>
           [e-mail] "Jeff Bertholdi" writes:

Hi Jeff,

> How about a straight answer.  Is the Opto the only way to get continuous
> coverage on the Pro-2035?
>
> Is there no other part replacement that can be done to get the
> continuous coverage?

The only way to restore continuous coverage from 760-1300MHz to allow
"normal" keyboard entry of all frequencies without using the Opto board is
replace the main IC with the ones used on the PRO-2035 that were sold by
RS outside the USA & Canada as the IC controls the frequencies you can enter.

The only difference between the GRE-9312 (as used in the US model) and the
GRE-9410 is the full 760-1300MHz coverage. There is no other difference
feature wise. AM, NFM & WFM together with increment steps of 5, 12.5 and
50Khz remain the same.

There are two ways to replace the IC....remove the IC fitted to your logic
board and refit the GRE-9410. The IC is a 100 pin surface mount device so
its not something for the unexperienced. This is the least expensive way.

The only other alternative is replace the complete logic board that has the
GRE-9410 IC already fitted together with all other components. This is just
a "swap out" and is about as simple as boiling an egg - its also more
expensive :-(

The same applies to the PRO-2042 and most other current RS/Uniden receivers
(PRO-26, PRO-60 etc).

Hope this helps and clears it up a little for you.


--
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From [e-mail] Sat Oct 12 12:06:08 1996
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From: "Ben Robbins" <[e-mail]>
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Does anyone know the key board code to open this scanner to all freqs.

Thanks


From [e-mail] Sat Oct 12 12:06:09 1996
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From: Risius <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: pro-25
Date: Thu, 10 Oct 1996 12:49:31 +0100
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Ben Robbins wrote:
>
> Does anyone know the key board code to open this scanner to all freqs.
>
> Thanks
I am interested in codes or mods for a 25 as well.  Anyone able to
help Ben and I?
Andy


From [e-mail] Sat Oct 12 12:06:10 1996
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From: Bob Carson <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Pro-29 Mods?
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Any mods for this model?


From [e-mail] Sat Oct 12 12:06:11 1996
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From: John Mackey KA0SSF <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner,alt.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Quarnstrom, the instigator
Date: Fri, 11 Oct 1996 11:14:03 -0700
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Bill Cheek wrote:
> Summing it all up.....Quarnstrom is NOT a participant; he's just an
> instigator and troublemaker.

Funny how all these problems are from people who disagreed with you on
your fido echo.

You SHOULD have received a e-mail from me a few hours before you posted
this offering you a truce.  This flame you just did indicates you
don't want the truce.  I hope this indication is wrong & your e-mail
system is running slow.




From [e-mail] Sat Oct 12 12:06:12 1996
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From: [e-mail] (RfSam)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: RADIO SHACK PRO-2035 SCANNER  10-7-96
Date: 7 Oct 1996 08:03:05 -0400
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RADIO SHACK PRO-2035 DESKTOP SCANNER
1000 MEMORY CHANNELS
COVERAGE IS FROM    25-520MHZ and 760-1300MHZ
EXCELLENT CONDITION
$265


From [e-mail] Sat Oct 12 12:06:13 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Steve Work)
Subject: Re: RADIO SHACK PRO-2035 SCANNER  10-7-96
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RfSam ([e-mail]) wrote:
: RADIO SHACK PRO-2035 DESKTOP SCANNER
: 1000 MEMORY CHANNELS
: COVERAGE IS FROM    25-520MHZ and 760-1300MHZ
: EXCELLENT CONDITION
: $265

You're going to have a hard time poppin' this one till Ron Coursey runs
out of new 2006's.  And he's got quite a few in his stash, you know.


From [e-mail] Sat Oct 12 12:06:14 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Xray6646)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Radios For Sale
Date: 11 Oct 1996 18:07:21 -0400
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I have the following radios for sale this week:

3-Sabre 1 UHF 12ch $400ea
2- HT1000 UHF 16 ch $350ea
1-Plectron monitor VHF $75
2-MT500 VHF 8ch $100ea
2-STX800 type 1 w/full keypad $325ea
1-STX821 type II,IIi full keypad new battery $400
1-MT1000 VHF 16ch $350
1- Visar UHF 16ch $350
3- HT1000 shoulder mics $50ea
6-MT1000 shoulder mics $50ea

Please make an offer and please specify which radio you are referring to
when you reply via email, I get confused some times.. I am currnetly
looking for the Following Radios:

HT1000 VHF
MTX800 or810
MTX8000
Ht1000 Rack charger

Please email  with any offers or trades, the prices above are ASKING
prices.
Thanx,
JOE


From [e-mail] Sat Oct 12 12:06:15 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Terry Calof)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Recommend a handheld scanner?
Date: 10 Oct 1996 03:55:10 GMT
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I am looking to buy a handheld scanner. I am tired of and disappointed in
using my 2m HT for scanning. I would like something that covers almost
everything (100kHz-1200 Mhz) with cell unblocked. Atlantic Ham Radio in
Toronto has advertised an AOR AR-2700 at $499 Cdn ($375 US). Is this a
good choice, or can I do better for the money? Any suggestions based on
ownership? Thanks, Terry


From [e-mail] Sat Oct 12 12:06:16 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Mark Parkhill)
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Subject: Re: Recording
Date: Mon, 07 Oct 1996 12:28:14 +1000
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In article <52q5mc$[e-mail]>, [e-mail]
(Tomcat305) wrote:

> Hi all!  I am recording from the BC9000XLT, but when I play it back, the
> first portion of the transmittion is all garbled, and scrathcy, I am
> rcording with Radio Shack's CTR-102, does anybody have any suggestions?

Sounds like you are using a microphone input on the recorder that has
automatic level control.

What happens is when it first turns on there is heaps of gain and it
overloads the input of the
tape recorder until it backs itself off a bit. It is common for it to take
from one to two seconds
on small portable cassette recorders.

Try attenuating the signal before you plug it into the recorder as this
will make it look more
like a microphone input.

Hope this helps, Mark.

--
[e-mail]


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From: [e-mail] (Tim Moore)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: REQ pro 2037 Mods.?
Date: 7 Oct 1996 17:24:40 GMT
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In article <[e-mail]>, From TEX <[e-mail]>, the
following was written:
> Somebody know pro 2037 mods? Please E-Mail me
>

Somebody mail them to me too if you have any.



From [e-mail] Sat Oct 12 12:06:17 1996
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From: [e-mail] (TiChenjago)
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Subject: req: Richmond Hts,OH (CLEVE)
Date: 11 Oct 1996 17:25:55 -0400
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Does anyone know police/fire/etc Richmond Hts, OH.  Betty bearcat, AES
books have either old or wrong listings.  Thanks in advance for any help.
    Paul


From [e-mail] Sat Oct 12 12:06:19 1996
From: [e-mail] (Jonathan Clough)
Subject: Re: response to J.T. Ward, PopCom
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In article <536eth$[e-mail]>
           [e-mail] "Dr Pepper" writes:

Hi,

> The following is my response to J. T. Wards article in the November
> issue of PopComm., . , . , . ,
>
>
> I read with interest, the column by J. T. Ward in the November
> issue of PopularCommunications.  His premise of the government
> banning scanner radios is not all that farfetched. After all,
> they did in the UK.  And judging the present political climate

Just a small point:

The UK does not have any form of legislation on Scanners. They are not
"banned" in any shape or form - it is within the laws of the UK to sell,
purchase and own a scanner. Neither is there any restriction of the
frequencies such equipment can receive (unlike the USA).

Leglisation does exist though on what frequencies you are entitled to legally
listen to as a member of the public.

Until recently "scanners" with coverage anything more than AM, FM and
Amateur frequencies were illegal in several European countries - Germany as
an example. Even sets such as the Icom IC-R9000 were only allowed to legally
receive the above. This is no longer the case.


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Cellular ban is a poor example because:
>
> 1. It was enacted thanks to the lobbying efforts of a well-funded,
> focused industry (CTIA), with a minor, unorganized response by hobbyists
> & maybe the scanner manufacturing industry.  Is there a similar
> organization calling for the ban/seizure of scanners?

Yes there is...Motorola and GE ;)  JUST KIDDING! Don't need their high
priced lawyers coming to sue me!!


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[e-mail] (David Bernazzani) writes:


>True.  The loss is only about 1.5:1 - still very respectable
>especially compared to the gain you get from using the better cable.


I believe you mean diminished loss.  There is no gain in
feedline, only loss.

rw


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[e-mail] (R. Wiley) wrote:

>[e-mail] (David Bernazzani) writes:
>
>
>>True.  The loss is only about 1.5:1 - still very respectable
>>especially compared to the gain you get from using the better cable.
>
>
>I believe you mean diminished loss.  There is no gain in
>feedline, only loss.

Could be semantics, but gain is relative.  This is especially
pertinent when working with ratios and decibels.  Consider these
terms:

1.  More gain
2.  Less gain
3.  More loss
4.  Less loss

or, just

1.  gain
2.  loss

So what if something has a negative dB gain?  Or a negative dB loss?

Consider:  "A low pass filter has an insertion loss of 5 dB."

Thus, it can also be said to have a gain of -5 dB.  Antennas are
especially pertinent here where they can exhibit either gain or loss.
Interestingly, we never ascribe "gain" to coax, nor "loss" to
antennas, but that is NOT any cosmic principle.

A point source isotropic radiator is said to have 0-dBi gain.  In
fact, a discone antenna has 0-dBi gain across most of its performance
band, but in fact, it also has -dB gain in spots.  THAT is a relative
loss.  RG-58 coax has a certain loss per 100-ft at 1 GHz.  RG-6 has a
much lower loss per 100-ft at 1 GHz, for a relative gain compared to
RG-58.

Gain can be positive or negative.  Loss can be positive or negative.

Thus:  - Gain = + Loss     and     + Gain = - Loss

It is generally best to not mix the terms, gain and loss; rather to
use one term best for a situation, and then apply polarity to indicate
relativity as needed.

But the entire matter is not cut and dried, so that's why we don't
usually use "gain" to describe coax, nor "loss" to describe antennas.

But we can.........and there are other situations where either term is
appropriate.  The most important thing is to use whatever term is most
comfortable, and then apply the (+) or (-) polarity as appropriate.

Bill Cheek
Scannist Extraordinaire




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Edward Bialas wrote:

> This is a bunch of (B.S).  Even if UV destroys the outer insulation, so
> what.

That would be a big problem if the outer was destroyed.


> The cable is made up of an inner conductor surrounded by something like
> "ground braid material". The distance seperating these two conductors
> determines the impedance of the cable and this distance must remain

The TYPE of material seperating the inner & outer conductor ALSO plays
a big role in impedence along with the distance between.


> All the  outer insulation does is to cover up the cable and has nothing
> to do with the characteristics of the cable itself.

It also helps protect the cable from moisture & sunlight.




From [e-mail] Sat Oct 12 12:06:24 1996
From: [e-mail] (James Collins)
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Subject: RS 2011 Mods?
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L  I got to wondering, "Are there any useful
LM>mods floating around for this older, low-buck scanner?"

LM>Any help would be appreciated.

LM>Levi

Hello levi,
 I have the same scanner as you and have posted a few times asking
for any mods, with no response from anyone.
 I just thought I'd ask if you could let me know if you find any
information on the subject.   I would very much appreciate it.

  Thank you,

   JAmes



---
 * WaveRdr 1.10 [NR] * UNREGISTERED EVALUATION COPY


From [e-mail] Sat Oct 12 12:06:25 1996
From: [e-mail] (Jonathan Clough)
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In article <[e-mail]>
           [e-mail] "Dan Morgan" writes:

> On Fri, 27 Sep 1996 15:36:49 GMT, [e-mail] (Bill Cheek) wrote:
> >[e-mail] (Knight Blu) wrote:
> >
> >>Is the RS2035 modifyable for cellular
> >
> >No.  Not in any conventional sense.  There are three ways to sort of
> >do it, none of which are very good answers to the US hobbyist.
> >
> >1.  Replace the CPU with a European CPU
> >2.  Replace the Logic/Display board with a European version
> >3.  Perform the "virtual downconverter" mod.
> >
> >(1) is hairy as hell, but cheaper than (2).  (2) is expensive, but
> >easier.  Both (1) and (2) yield cellular.....in 12.5 kHz steps.

Yes to 1.
Yes to 2.

Defaults to 12.5KHz steps but 5, 12.5 or 50KHz step sizes can be selected
when searching between any two frequencies within the PRO-2035's frequency
coverage (No 30KHz steps though).


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From [e-mail] Sat Oct 12 12:06:26 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Blue dot 9)
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Subject: Re: scanner software
Date: 10 Oct 1996 02:44:58 -0400
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In article <01bbb578$10856060$195003cf@ollie-flint>, "OLLIE FLINT"
<[e-mail]> writes:

>I  have a new Pro 2006 and would like to marry it to my computer.
>
>What would be the best choice for a interface and sofware combo ?
>what are the features and advantages?

Ollie, try the following site:

http://home.ptd.net/~pro2006/

There is a wealth of information there about your new Pro-2006 and related
topics.

Dave
(Scanner Flatulaire)



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I have the CE-232 interface, and am completely happy with it.  It is not
as simple to install as other products, but it offers the hacker some
possibilities not available with others.

The Ce-232 allows one to write scripts for the interface that tell the
scanner and computer to do custom functions.  I wrote one for mine that
will wait for a specific frequency to become active (such as the aircraft
emergency freq of 121.500, or a tactical frequency used by a PD.)  Once it
detects activity, it reprograms the last bank with related frequencies,
locks out all the other banks, and turns on the recorder.  It will
continue in that mode until no activity is heard on any of the
frequencies for a user defined amount of time.  Once that time limit is
reached, it reprograms the scanner just the way it was before all of this
happened.  That way I can have the thing chug away as normal while I am
gone, and still have a certain amount of control over what is recorded.

The CE-232 actually reprograms the memory in the scanner, unlike other
interfaces that use the computer's memory for frequency retention.  With
the CE-232, you can program it, unhook it, and it will stay that way.  It
is quite useful if you travel with your scanner.  I have various frequency
lists for the areas to which I drive, and when I plan to head out to other
states I simply program it for that area and then toss it in the car and
away I go.  Other interfaces won't let you do that.  With those, you would
have to program it manually if you planned on using it on the
road...unless you have a lap top computer!

The CE-232 won't decode PL tones, and isn't quite as fancy as some others,
but it is a very utilitarian interface.

Bill Cheek is the designer and retailer for the CE-232.  Commtronics
Engineering is his business name.  He's on the internet.

Andy



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TO ALL INTERESTED PARTIES.  I AM CURRENTLY WORKING ON A DETAILED LIST OF
ALL ACTIVE FREQUENCIES IN AND AROUND THE PORTLAND AREA AND WILL SOON
PUBLISH THIS WORK.  I CURRENTLY HAVE OVER 300 LISTINGS INCLUDING PORTLAND
POLICE, FIRE, AND MEDICAL AND MORE.  I AM NOW WORKING ON GETTING PORTLAND
PROGRESS AND E.I.D. FREQUENCIES.  ANYONE INTERESTED IN BUYING MY LIST
CONTACT ME AT:
[e-mail]
FOR THIS LIST I ASK FOR A $5.00 DONATION.  DON'T WAIT FOR THE BOOK, IT WILL
BE MORE EXPENSIVE.
  I HAVE FOUND THAT THE POLICE CALL BOOKS WERE RATHER VAGUE IN TERM OF WHO
IS USING THEM, I.E. TRUNKED SYSTEM, OR BUSINESS BAND.  MY LIST OF
FREQUENCIES HAS THE COMPANY NAMES ASSOCIATED WITH THE FREQUENCY THEY ARE
USING AND BELIEVE ME, THERE ARE MORE INTERESTING ONES TO LISTEN TO BESIDES
THE POLICE.
  THERE MAY OR MAY NOT BE MISTAKES THAT I HAVE MADE WITH THE LISTING SO FOR
THIS REASON, THERE ARE NO REFUNDS, HOWEVER, I AM SURE YOU WILL NOT BE
DISSAPPOINTED, BUT I CANNOT GUARANTEE THAT.
GET YOUR COMPUTERIZED PRINTOUT NOW BEFORE THE BOOK!.



From [e-mail] Sat Oct 12 12:06:31 1996
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In <01bbb6d1$b4735ce0$[e-mail]> "Internet Arena" <urfe@in
etarena.com> writes:

>TO ALL INTERESTED PARTIES.  I AM CURRENTLY WORKING ON A DETAILED LIST OF
>ALL ACTIVE FREQUENCIES IN AND AROUND THE PORTLAND AREA AND WILL SOON
>PUBLISH THIS WORK.  I CURRENTLY HAVE OVER 300 LISTINGS INCLUDING PORTLAND
>POLICE, FIRE, AND MEDICAL AND MORE.  I AM NOW WORKING ON GETTING PORTLAND
>PROGRESS AND E.I.D. FREQUENCIES.  ANYONE INTERESTED IN BUYING MY LIST
>CONTACT ME AT:
>[e-mail]
>FOR THIS LIST I ASK FOR A $5.00 DONATION.  DON'T WAIT FOR THE BOOK, IT WILL
>BE MORE EXPENSIVE.
>  I HAVE FOUND THAT THE POLICE CALL BOOKS WERE RATHER VAGUE IN TERM OF WHO
>IS USING THEM, I.E. TRUNKED SYSTEM, OR BUSINESS BAND.  MY LIST OF
>FREQUENCIES HAS THE COMPANY NAMES ASSOCIATED WITH THE FREQUENCY THEY ARE
>USING AND BELIEVE ME, THERE ARE MORE INTERESTING ONES TO LISTEN TO BESIDES
>THE POLICE.
>  THERE MAY OR MAY NOT BE MISTAKES THAT I HAVE MADE WITH THE LISTING SO FOR
>THIS REASON, THERE ARE NO REFUNDS, HOWEVER, I AM SURE YOU WILL NOT BE
>DISSAPPOINTED, BUT I CANNOT GUARANTEE THAT.
>GET YOUR COMPUTERIZED PRINTOUT NOW BEFORE THE BOOK!.

HEY! Don't shout -- Please press your caplocks key and type like a normal
person.

Have you checked resources available on the Web? There are several
excellent references like the great site Bruce Varine has for Portland
and Oregon State frequencies at http://www.orst.edu/~varineb/scanner.htm

I wish you luck in your endeavor, but...


--
Clay Irving N2VKG
[e-mail]
http://www.panix.com/~clay/


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Subject: Re: Scanners on a Cruise???
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[e-mail] wrote:
>
> Has anyone ever taken their scanner with them on a Cruise? Vacation
> time is coming up at the end of the month, and the wife and I are off
> on a 7 day Carnival Cruise of the western Carribbean on the
> Imagination, and I am wondering if I could/should take my AR8K/Scout
> combo.
>
> In the cruise guide, the mention ship-to-shore telephone as well as
> inmarsat telephone, could these be monitored? I am sure ther must be
> other radio communications aboard ship as well, with a crew of over
> 900.
>
> How about in the ports of call? would I run into any problems with
> local laws regarding scanners? Would there be an above average risk of
> theft from the ship if the equipment is left in my stateroom?
>
> Does anyone have any frequencies to share for Carnival Cruise lines,
> or for any Western Caribbean ports, e.g. Cozumel, Ocho Rios, etc?

Don't make the mistake I made and take the scanner on the cruise.  My
wife almost
float tested the unit.  She was not happy.

Joseph


From [e-mail] Sat Oct 12 12:06:33 1996
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From: [e-mail] (~5150~)
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Subject: Re: Scanners on a Cruise???
Date: Fri, 11 Oct 1996 02:11:06 GMT
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>Don't make the mistake I made and take the scanner on the cruise.  My
>wife almost
>float tested the unit.  She was not happy.

>Joseph


Exactly...Be a hobbyist my friend, not a freaking geek!




~What is understood, need not be discussed~  Van Halen-



From [e-mail] Sat Oct 12 12:06:33 1996
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Subject: Re: Scanners on a Cruise???
Date: Fri, 11 Oct 1996 21:42:33 GMT
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[e-mail] wrote:

>Has anyone ever taken their scanner with them on a Cruise?

Yes - Just make sure it's insured against ALL RISKS - have it
mentioned as a specific item on the insurance policy. Be warned that
accidents can and do happen - I know - it happened to me!!!! - It got
very, very wet!





From [e-mail] Sat Oct 12 12:06:34 1996
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Dear David,
           Communication of police,fire services etc. are all
    in German.
     In English: all Atc traffic with airplanes.
                 USARMY traffic in the 30-50 MHZ band(FM)think
                 also of US Military Police.
                 USARMY Aviation control towers also in
                 the 30-50 MHZ band (FM) and around 140 MHZ(AM)
                             Kind Regards,
                                          Martin.



From [e-mail] Sat Oct 12 12:06:35 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Barney Fife)
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Subject: Scrambler phone units for sale
Date: Sun, 06 Oct 1996 10:45:55 -0400
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For Sale:

One complete pair of  REI  handset coupling voice scrambling units model
ACS-2 .  Brand new units.  Speech spectrum inversion technology, Led
indicators for secure channel indication. Uses 9 volt battery.  Strap over
any handset with adjustable acoustic couplers.  Use anywhere in the world.

$ 500.00 firm for the pair.

--
The Band: were puttin the band back together!  Jake


From [e-mail] Sat Oct 12 12:06:36 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Petri Havanto)
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In article <[e-mail]> Carl Lowry <[e-mail]> writes:

> Very interesting. This is a pyramid scam which is prosecutable by the U.
> S. Postal Inspectors under Title 18, United States Code. Why do we allow
> these guys to crum up the Internet with these scams?  Carl

Easy. We don't. A copy of the article to him, his sysadmin and to IRS
should stop the stuff pretty effectively.

Yours,
Petri


From [e-mail] Sat Oct 12 12:06:37 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Bob Horvath)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Speach Inversion
Date: Wed, 09 Oct 1996 17:36:37 GMT
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Randall Fox <[e-mail]> wrote:

>Does anyone know how to defeat speach inversion?  Is it possible?
>
> Randall Fox
>
If it's regular simple speech inversion, Ramsey sells  a speech
inversion kit or finished product.



From [e-mail] Sat Oct 12 12:06:38 1996
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From: jpaquin <[e-mail]>
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Subject: trade for scanner
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--
jpaquin
35 MHZ oscilloscope dual trce/x-y axes/35mhz(up to 50) light weight 6"ctr


RS discone antenna(the one who transmit on 140/220/440/900 (two months old


cb full band antenna(new never used)tuneable to cb/10m/also cover
144/220/440/900 1290 Mhz hambands on tx/rx

Andre 709-944-5268



From [e-mail] Sat Oct 12 12:06:39 1996
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From: " modemx" <[e-mail]>
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Does anyone have freq's for them???????Didnt think so!
--
[e-mail]


From [e-mail] Sat Oct 12 12:06:40 1996
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From: Tate Gordinier <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: UFO transmissions?
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> ->--
> -It's been a lot more difficult to pick up the "aliens" since they switched
> from VHF to an 8000 e.t.-hz trunked system. Besides, the language they spoke
> made speech inversion sound like Shakespear.
>     However, it still would'nt hurt to check in with the MARS system every
> now and then. You never know.
>
> ->
> ->What is the MARS system?  and why would aliens be using earthly 800MHz
trunked radios?


From [e-mail] Sat Oct 12 12:06:41 1996
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From: [e-mail] (kEN Colburn)
Subject: UFO transmissions?
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Anyone heard any UFO transmissions? No wait, they are spotted all over,
it stands to reason they use some type of radio to comm w/ the mother
ship or other scouts. Someone must have heard something.

--
If you'd like to sponsor me (as little as $5) in this year's LOVE RIDE
for Muscular Dystrophy, emale me.
  [e-mail]
http://www.mainelink.net/~writer/poster/Poster.html




From [e-mail] Sat Oct 12 12:06:41 1996
From: [e-mail] (Pete Womack)
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[e-mail] (kEN Colburn) wrote:

>Anyone heard any UFO transmissions? No wait, they are spotted all over,
>it stands to reason they use some type of radio to comm w/ the mother
>ship or other scouts. Someone must have heard something.

        We won't be able to hear anything until we develop sub-space communication.

Energize!

Pete.

Medical Technologist, parent, brewer, computer nerd



From [e-mail] Sat Oct 12 12:06:42 1996
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In a previous article, [e-mail] (kEN Colburn) wrote:
->Anyone heard any UFO transmissions? No wait, they are spotted all over,
->it stands to reason they use some type of radio to comm w/ the mother
->ship or other scouts. Someone must have heard something.
->
->--
-It's been a lot more difficult to pick up the "aliens" since they switched
from VHF to an 8000 e.t.-hz trunked system. Besides, the language they spoke
made speech inversion sound like Shakespear.
    However, it still would'nt hurt to check in with the MARS system every
now and then. You never know.

->
->


From [e-mail] Sat Oct 12 12:06:43 1996
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From: [e-mail](Steve S)
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Subject: Re: Uniden GMR100 and GMRS
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In <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Clint
Bradford) writes:
>
>
>>>If you want FRS style, special purpose only radios, go with the
GMR100
>>>or PRS-100/101.
>
>NEITHER can legally operate on the FRS. Only FRS Type-Accepted units
can
>be used on the FRS - period.

And that is "EXACTLY" why I used the term "FRS style" not FRS!  I'm
sure Clint was about to list the technical differences between GMRS and
FRS radios like integral antennas, narrower bandwidth, and lower power
but he just didn't get around to it.

Steve S.
KAF8111


From [e-mail] Sat Oct 12 12:06:47 1996
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From: "Patrick D. Lukens" <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: Uniden GMR100 and GMRS
Date: Mon, 07 Oct 1996 11:22:01 -0700
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E. Scott Sykes wrote:
>
> Steve S wrote:
> >
> > In <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Clint
> > Bradford) writes:
> > >NEITHER can legally operate on the FRS. Only FRS Type-Accepted units
> > can
> > >be used on the FRS - period.

GMRS radios can be used on 7 of the 14 FRS frequencies.  They are shared
between the two services. (the GMRS interstitial freqs.)  However, GMRS
operators (or anyone else) may not use non-type accepted radios on the 7
FRS only frequencies.

> I believe that FRS & GMRS use some of the same frequencies, it blows
> that theory.
>
> Scott

Exactly...

Does anyone get the impression that there are some GMRS users out there
who haven't a clue about FRS, and then get upset to find out that they
will have to share a part of their service with unlicensed "CBers"?

--
--Patrick

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From [e-mail] Sat Oct 12 12:06:47 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Michael R. Erb)
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Subject: Re: Uniden UBC-3000XLT
Date: Wed, 09 Oct 1996 22:58:52 -0400
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I ordered an adaptor from Scanner World. It's original equipment in that
the plug fits perfectly. The RS plug will stick out more than necessary.
Price is about the same. Item AD2500U- $14.99

Scannerworld [phone]

Michael

---

In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] wrote:

> I just ordered the 3000XLT from Javiation. Since it doesn't come with a
> wall wart unit, I'd like to go ahead and buy one fom Radio Shack to have
> on hand when it arrives. Does any know the p/n or model number? Thanks.
>
>
> Ed


From [e-mail] Sat Oct 12 12:06:48 1996
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From: john fleenor <[e-mail]>
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visit john's ham page at http://www.why.net/home/jlfleenor for web page
graphics, ham software, ham links, electronic projects, and more!


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From: [e-mail] (Donald Gray)
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Subject: Re: WTB  AR8000  PC Interface
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[e-mail] (Randall R. Moore) wrote:

>Me too!

>[e-mail]

I do a low cost interface for the AR8000/2700 - it comes as ready
built or as a full kit of parts for home construction

Email me for mor details if interested...

Regards

Donald
[e-mail]


Donald Gray
Free Agent V1.0 -
Eudora Lite V1.5.4
Please do not short the output or severe damage will be caused to the fuse.
         (On a Sony power supply leaflet!)



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Where are you?

Can you send a  bank cheque - money order?

I can ship Fedex

I have one and friend is looking to sell his also.




"Borgman" <[e-mail]> wrote:

>       Prefer 800mhz and 30-88mhz already done.
>                                                       [e-mail]
>                                                       Jason Borgen

Ron Katz
News Cameraman
Toronto Ontario
http://www.interlog.com/~ronkatz/
Your source of information for
Scanning the Emergency Services and More.


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From: [e-mail] (David Bernazzani)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Yaesu FT-50R as a scanner?
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Jim Brady <[e-mail]> wrote:

>The Yaesu FT-50R is a hand held amateur Radio transciver, ulta compact
>dual band unit (TX on 144-148 and 430-450).  It also has a Wide Band
>Receiver (75-200MHz, 300-540MHZ and 590-999MHZ). There are 112 memories.
>I have been told that this is a great amateur rig.  BUT, what I would
>like to know is how good is it as a SCANNER?  How good is the receiver?
>Should I consider this instead of the BC3000XLT?
>Any information would be appricated.
>[e-mail]


This is a great 2M/440 Amateur rig, no doubt.

The WFM is not great on this radio.  Most scanners with this mode are
much better.  The two I played with were not very sensitive on bands
outside the 2M/440 amateur bands.  I'm not sure how good it is in the
800-999MHz range - probably not good.

Only 1 priority channel.  Many scanners come with more than 1 priority
channel.  The latest offerings from Uniden provide 10 priority
channels and the check is a bit faster.  Also, with the Yaesu, I think
the DW channel must be channel 1 when in memory channel mode.
Alphanumerics are very nice, however.

Overall, IMHO, it's probably the best basic HT ham rig for the money
but it's not necessarily a great scanner.  The WFM is poor.  No data
skip or mass-unlock of locked out channels.  Scanning is slow compared
to the near 50 or 100 channels/sec on modern uniden scanners.  Only
112 channels (yeah, that's a lot, but many feel strapped with less
than 200 and many hams will fill up channels with repeaters, etc).
The FT10 has banks which are hard to set-up and I *think* the FT50
doesn't do banking at all - a major drawback for scanning.  It lacks
search and store features found on radios of comparable price.
Coverage starts at 76MHz or so and so older police/fire in the 33MHz
area can't be scanned (which is still used in some communities here in
Mass).  No selectable delay.

If you are a ham who likes the VHF amateur bands and only want/need
one radio and wish to have wide coverage for receive, this is a great
rig to get.  Those looking for a scanner only might be better spending
somewhat close to the same money and get a 400 channel Uniden
BC3000XLT or similar handheld with many of the bells and whistles to
make scanning a real pleasure.

Just thoughts,

Dave Bernazzani
N1WSQ


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From: [e-mail] (Peter Laws)
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[e-mail] (David Bernazzani) writes:

>Jim Brady <[e-mail]> wrote:

>This is a great 2M/440 Amateur rig, no doubt.
>The WFM is not great on this radio.  Most scanners with this mode are

It's a 75 kHz filter, I'm told, which isn't wide enough for music.  Works
OK for voice.  Not well, but OK.

>much better.  The two I played with were not very sensitive on bands
>outside the 2M/440 amateur bands.  I'm not sure how good it is in the
>800-999MHz range - probably not good.

I have no problem hearing OKC FD and PD from Norman, a distance of ~20
miles.  PD is VHF Hi, FD is UHF.  No experience with 800, as I don't
listen to the OK Highway Patrol.

>Only 1 priority channel.  Many scanners come with more than 1 priority

Sort of.  You can use the "dual watch" as a crude priority.


>Alphanumerics are very nice, however.

Yeah, but they could have used 5 characters instead of 4 (the fifth is
there - press PTT out of band to see it).

>but it's not necessarily a great scanner.  The WFM is poor.  No data

But it *transmits*.

>112 channels (yeah, that's a lot, but many feel strapped with less
>than 200 and many hams will fill up channels with repeaters, etc).

Nah.  I use it for scanning 80%, ham 20%.  Only have a dozen or so
repeaters.  Rest is Fire, EMS, PD, etc.  And, it transmits.

>The FT10 has banks which are hard to set-up and I *think* the FT50
>doesn't do banking at all - a major drawback for scanning.  It lacks

Agreed.  No banks is not good.  I haven't played with the software (a
coworker a few cubes away has it).  That would be the only way to enable
banks.  It does let you have 6 search pairs though and there seems to be 4
"bands" for each of the 2 VFO's.  It does transmit, though.

>search and store features found on radios of comparable price.
>Coverage starts at 76MHz or so and so older police/fire in the 33MHz

A problem in fewer and fewer places.

>Mass).  No selectable delay.

<shrug>  Haven't noticed this as a problem. It does allow you to change
when the scanning resumes, though, which I've never seen on a scanner.
Choices are carrier drop or 5 seconds.  Did I mention that it transmits?

>BC3000XLT or similar handheld with many of the bells and whistles to
>make scanning a real pleasure.

It's an HT, not a scanner.  But it's not as big a compromise as other
HT-scanners.  I find that I leave my BC3000XLT at home a lot more now.

You didn't mention that the audio level and quality is superior to the
BC3000XLT, nor did mention the fact that DCS (digital PL) is built in and
that CTCSS decode (encode is standard) is available with the optional
keypad (which also has a digital voice recorder).

Peter



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From: [e-mail] (bnr)
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One nice little scanning feature that is available on the FT50 that I wish
I had on my 3000 is the ability to scan and have the radio hold the signal
only five seconds before it continues to scan.  This is great, especially
if you include 2m repeaters in your scan.  Your radio doesn't get
hung up on long winded conversations but at the same time lets you
know the freq is active.

Without a bank system though, the FT50 fails as a scanner.  It is a great
radio and it has helped me out a lot by not forcing me to carry a scanner
and an ht at the same time. The small size is nice also.

I also wish the WFM mode worked, but oh well - you can't have everything.
I don't listen to the 800 band a lot, so I really can't speak of its
performance there.


I like my FT50 and would feel comfortable recommending it, just not as a
scanner.

73's

Brian Raines     N3XWJ  ||  www.universe.digex.net/~bnr/3000.html
[e-mail]  ||  The Uniden BC3000xlt



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From: [e-mail] (Bert)
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Cecil Moore <[e-mail]> wrote:

>> Only the very brilliant few will remain useful

>As long as they know Morse code, there is nothing to fear. :-)

Heh heh heh heh  <ROFLMAO>

One has to sometimes wonder if we would but only send a handful of
well versed Amateurs (with keys in hand) to the third world, could we
end poverty and plage in one fell sweep?


Bert Burland aka N5TOA / From The Texas Panhandle
EMail-([e-mail]) Fido-NetMail-(Sysop@1:3825/24)



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In article <01bbb538$656f2740$9b070ccf@jim-reid-1>, "Jim Reid"
<[e-mail]> wrote:

I know that many people think that the FCC was and continues to be a royal
pain in the _ _ _ but I for one will miss some of the support that was
received from the FCC in the past.

As society becomes more and more dependant on using the RF spectrum as a
vehicle for communication and other activities, we need to ensure that the
frequency spectrum is MANAGED in such a way that all of us may use it in
one way or another.  Key word is manage, which to me means the focal point
for activites.  What kind of activies am I talking about?

I gave up on CB about 6 months after the FCC killed the license
requirement for that activity.  The activities I encountered while
listening/participating (at the time I was stationed in Hawaii) were rough
to say the least.  (Linear amps with sideband splatter 3 channels either
side of the base carrier.)  Perhaps I will get my ham license someday,
provided that it too doesn't go away.

As a boat owner, I carry a hand held Marine VHF.  The FCC has done in the
majority of the license requirements for operation of Marine VHS as well.
I can't wait to hear how out of control that band will get, considering
that Marine VHF is often used for life support activites.

The Livermore, CA monitoring facility (one of the ones which is becoming
automated) is less than a mile from our RC aircraft flying field.  We have
obtained the assistance from the FCC staff at that facility to help
resolve issues with RFI problems several times in the past.  Where are we
going to get real time assistance in the future?   Philly?

Questions for all; Why are these facilities shutting down?  Why has the
operations budget been reduced to a point where they can no longer do the
job as defined by the charter?  What is the impact going to be on all of
us?

Eric Helms
[e-mail]

--




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From: [e-mail](au)
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From Mobile Radio Technology Oct '96:

"The FCC has closed all 12 of it monitoring stations.  Almost all FCC
field offices are equipped for monitoring frequencies at VHF and above.
The monitoring stations were additionally equipped to monitor signals
in the high-frequency (HF) range.  Stations were closed in the
following locations: Allegan, MI; Anchorage, AK; Belfast, ME; Douglas,
AZ; Ferndale, WA; Grand Island, NE; Honolulu; Kingsville, TX;
Livermore, CA; Powder Springs, GA; San Juan, PR; and Vero Beach, FL.

Other offices closed by the commission include those in Buffalo, NY;
Norfolk, VA; Miami, Houston, Portland, OR; and St. Paul, MN.

Ok whats open?

Offices that remain in operation include Atlanta; Baltimore; Boston;
Chicago; Dallas; Denver; Detroit; Kansas City, MO; L.A.; New Orleans;
New York; Philadelphia; San Diego; San Francisco; Seattle; and Tampa,
FL.

The FCC has previously announced that upon closing of the field offices
and monitoring stations that it would have a toll-free number to report
Land Mobile interference problems.  800-322-8255 "

According to this article Prior to June 1, 1996 the FCC maintained 35
field offices and monitoring stations, this number has dwindled to 16
offices.


Just thought it was an interesting piece of news to pass on to all the
radio enthusiasts.

au


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[e-mail](au) whistled a happy tune like:

|>From Mobile Radio Technology Oct '96:

|>"The FCC has closed all 12 of it monitoring stations.  Almost all FCC
|>field offices are equipped for monitoring frequencies at VHF and above.
|>The monitoring stations were additionally equipped to monitor signals
|>in the high-frequency (HF) range.  Stations were closed in the
|>following locations: Allegan, MI; Anchorage, AK; Belfast, ME; Douglas,
|>AZ; Ferndale, WA; Grand Island, NE; Honolulu; Kingsville, TX;
|>Livermore, CA; Powder Springs, GA; San Juan, PR; and Vero Beach, FL.

|>Other offices closed by the commission include those in Buffalo, NY;
|>Norfolk, VA; Miami, Houston, Portland, OR; and St. Paul, MN.

|>Ok whats open?

|>Offices that remain in operation include Atlanta; Baltimore; Boston;
|>Chicago; Dallas; Denver; Detroit; Kansas City, MO; L.A.; New Orleans;
|>New York; Philadelphia; San Diego; San Francisco; Seattle; and Tampa,
|>FL.

|>The FCC has previously announced that upon closing of the field offices
|>and monitoring stations that it would have a toll-free number to report
|>Land Mobile interference problems.  800-322-8255 "

|>According to this article Prior to June 1, 1996 the FCC maintained 35
|>field offices and monitoring stations, this number has dwindled to 16
|>offices.


|>Just thought it was an interesting piece of news to pass on to all the
|>radio enthusiasts.

|>au

THIS can only be good news to SW pirates / free radio enthusiasts.
As long as they are not interfering with other services, I seriously doubt
that the FCC is going to bother ANYONE on HF with a moderately powered
signal that does not GRAB the whole world's attention.

I tried to contact the FCC monitoring station in Laurel, MD a few months ago
about a deliberate interference problem I heard on the ham bands.

They ignored my FAX.
They didn't return my phone call messages.

If there IS anyone left in FCC monitoring, they are likely too busy with
commercial work to want to fool with SW and FM band pirates.

Happy listening!

Bry




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In <[e-mail]> John Mackey KA0SSF
<[e-mail]> writes:
>
>tyler wrote:
>> >Yea, it looks like the same will happen about the interference
between you
>> and cheek....pretty much a regular kind of thing.
>
>
>At least it is constructive in that it keeps Bill Cheek in order.
>
   to the idiot guy...JM
     You are a legend in your own mind-lessness.

     You say hello and only your mirrored image says "goodbye" back.

     pithy pithy fella
      you bring to our view
     unimaginative and useless
      self-play a reward for you.

     bill conduit


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>but they do nothing.
>
>Yea, it looks like the same will happen about the interference between you
and cheek....pretty much a regular kind of thing.



From [e-mail] Sat Oct 19 10:41:58 1996
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From: Shawn Walsh <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: 12V power supply- Multiple radios
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John C. Kincaid wrote:
>
> I have a Pro 2035 and 2 Pro 2006's. I would like power them  with one
> external 12V power source. The conversion of the radios is not a problem. I
> need guidance on what to use as the external power source. Radio Shack has
> a 12v, 3amp multi purpose supply. Is this  what  I need? (3 amps seems
> high). Looking for guidance, education, and/or advise. Obviously I am not
> knowledgeable in this area.
>
> Thanks in advance for the help.
>
> John Kincaid

John,
  The power supply from Radio Shack will work fine for your
application.  The 3 amp specification is the maximum current that unit
will supply.  I suspect that even with both radios running at the same
time, you'll only "pull" about 1 amp.  Thats good though, that means the
power supply will be operating well within its limits.  However, for
running a piece of electronic equipment, make sure to purchase a
"REGULATED" power supply.  That simply means that even if the load
changes (and as long as the power supply isn't overloaded), the voltage
will stay within about 3% (hopefully) of the rated voltage.  That's
important because a low voltage situation will impair the functionality
and a high voltage condition may fry the unit.  One question:  why are
you going to convert the 2006's?  Just wondering.
Shawn


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John C. Kincaid wrote:
>
> I have a Pro 2035 and 2 Pro 2006's. I would like power them  with one
> external 12V power source. The conversion of the radios is not a problem. I
> need guidance on what to use as the external power source. Radio Shack has
> a 12v, 3amp multi purpose supply. Is this  what  I need? (3 amps seems
> high). Looking for guidance, education, and/or advise. Obviously I am not
> knowledgeable in this area.
>
> Thanks in advance for the help.
>
> John Kincaid
John,
  The power supply from Radio Shack will work fine for your
application.  The 3 amp specification is the maximum current that unit
will supply.  I suspect that even with both radios running at the same
time, you'll only "pull" about 1 amp.  Thats good though, that means the
power supply will be operating well within its limits.  However, for
running a piece of electronic equipment, make sure to purchase a
"REGULATED" power supply.  That simply means that even if the load
changes (and as long as the power supply isn't overloaded), the voltage
will stay within about 3% (hopefully) of the rated voltage.  That's
important because a low voltage situation will impair the functionality
and a high voltage condition may fry the unit.  One question:  why are
you going to convert the 2006's?  Just wondering.
Shawn


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I have a Pro 2035 and 2 Pro 2006's. I would like power them  with one
external 12V power source. The conversion of the radios is not a problem. I
need guidance on what to use as the external power source. Radio Shack has
a 12v, 3amp multi purpose supply. Is this  what  I need? (3 amps seems
high). Looking for guidance, education, and/or advise. Obviously I am not
knowledgeable in this area.

Thanks in advance for the help.

John Kincaid


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From: [e-mail] (Bob Whiston)
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"John C. Kincaid" <[e-mail]> wrote:

>I have a Pro 2035 and 2 Pro 2006's. I would like power them  with one
>external 12V power source. The conversion of the radios is not a problem. I
>need guidance on what to use as the external power source. Radio Shack has
>a 12v, 3amp multi purpose supply. Is this  what  I need? (3 amps seems
>high). Looking for guidance, education, and/or advise. Obviously I am not
>knowledgeable in this area.

        Well...  {BSE GRIN!}  I've been using a TripLite PR-3 (3 Amp continious 4.5 A
mps
intermittant) power supply to power a pair of PRO-2004s for the last few years
and wouldn't want to add another one to it.  Now...  The PRO-2006 *does* consu
me
a little less current and I would think that if you don't have the volume
`cranked up' you could get by with running a pair of them and the PRO-2035 off
of one.  (The TripLite PR-3 has a much lower ripple than the one from Rat Shaf
t
and costs approximately the same.  (Lower ripple is preferable since it means
that the internal regulators of the scanners won't have yet another `variable'
to cope with and you'll have less problems in the `long run'.)  *If* you want
to
err on the `safe side' I'd recommend the TripLite PR-7 (5 Amps continious 7 Am
ps
intermittant) which still has less ripple than the Rat Shaft 3 Amp unit and
costs only a little more given that you have 2 Amps more and much more
`headroom'.  I've been running 2 PRO-2006s (With the Optoscan board installed
in
both), a AOR AR-2500, and an AIE TCF-4 Tone/Code adapter off of one with no
problems.  (I should also mention that both power supplies are also keeping
GelCels `trickle/float charged' so that I don't have scanning interruptions
during power `outages'! [The computer that runs the Opto boards has it's own
UPS.])


     Doleo ergo sum,
       Bob Whiston
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From [e-mail] Sat Oct 19 10:42:03 1996
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From: Porchnoy <[e-mail]>
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Tomcat305 wrote:
>
> What kind of Device can pick up this frequncie? 15041.
        Webster's Dictionary.


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In article <53ng63$[e-mail]>, [e-mail]
 says...
>
>What kind of Device can pick up this frequncie? 15041.

kHz, MHz, GHz ??
I assume it is kHz, in which case any half decent HF receiver should do it.
Dave



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From: [e-mail] (Arnold Morscher)
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Subject: 160 mhz handheld scanner recommendations?
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I am interested in scanning in the neighborhood of 160 mghz
(railroad frequencies).  Currently I have an old Radio Shack
Pro 36 that has a hard time picking up transmissions that are
more than a mile away, even with a variety of recommended
antennaes.

Can anyone recommend a scanner that is sensitive in the the
160 mhz range?

Thanks for any info,
Arnie


From [e-mail] Sat Oct 19 10:42:06 1996
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From: Gary Vodvarka <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: [Q] CHP "High Band" ?
Date: Wed, 16 Oct 1996 19:02:13 +0100
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John C. Kendall wrote:
>
> Ken Koller <[e-mail]> wrote:
>
> >Listening tonight to the CHP's Freeway Vandalism Task Force on Blue
> >42.340. Heard something I don't understand.
>
> >Dispatch: "S2, L.A., I checked on the high band, no repsonse, closest
> >victor unit is coming from Coldwater and the 101."
>
> >What is the "High Band"? Never heard of it before.
>
> >
> >Ken Koller
>
> >  *************************************************************************
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> >  *************************************************************************
> Ken:
>
> I don't know the exact answer to your question, but here is a guess.
>
> In old time scanning the 'high band" was 150-170Mhz
>
> The CHP, in addition to their extenders on 154.905, can also operate
> on several other "high band" frequencies such as mutual aid freqs
> 155.475, 156.075 and CLEMARS 154.920 and 154.935.
>
> CHP offices are equipped to operate on other State frequencies such as
> the Department of Justice 154.680 and 154.665 as well as Fish and Game
> Dept. freqs.
>
> Given the broad scope of the investigation into the window smashing
> they may have been using some of these freqs. for coordination with
> other agencies and for security.
>
> John
> KO6JW
I understand that they are testing a new 900mhz system. This could be
what they are talking about. Gary


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Gary Vodvarka ([e-mail]) wrote:
: I understand that they are testing a new 900mhz system. This could be
: what they are talking about. Gary

Actually, in this case they were refering to 460.375 --- but a new 900MHz
system would explain the unit I saw a week or so ago with two 800MHz-style
antennas (my guess was that one was for cellular and the other was on the
CalTrans 800MHz system).  Do you have any other information on this
(new 900MHz) system?

The CHP does have some allocations around 950 MHz (and 75 MHz) for linking
to remote tx/rx sites, but I suspect that that's not what you're talking
about ---

Thanks...




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From: mike daly <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: [Q] CHP "High Band" ?
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Brent Corbin wrote:
>
> Gary Vodvarka ([e-mail]) wrote:
> : I understand that they are testing a new 900mhz system. This could be
> : what they are talking about. Gary
>
> Actually, in this case they were refering to 460.375 --- but a new 900MHz
> system would explain the unit I saw a week or so ago with two 800MHz-style
> antennas (my guess was that one was for cellular and the other was on the
> CalTrans 800MHz system).  Do you have any other information on this
> (new 900MHz) system?
>
> The CHP does have some allocations around 950 MHz (and 75 MHz) for linking
> to remote tx/rx sites, but I suspect that that's not what you're talking
> about ---
>
> Thanks...
i dont think that the chp is going to go to 800 or 900 there was
something that i saw on the net about why there not going to 800.there
was to many things that was wrong. think about when there in notheren
cal and how many repeaters they would have to use just to get around the
mountians i used to in redding and there on trunked when i left the city
limits that was it no more signal


From [e-mail] Sat Oct 19 10:42:11 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Kevin Leffler)
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Subject: Aaron Schreiber?
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Aaron Schreiber, you sent me an e-mail but forgot to give me a valid
return address. If want the info, send me your real address sometime.

Kevin



From [e-mail] Sat Oct 19 10:42:12 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Iain L. Taylor)
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Subject: Re: ACARS standalone software decoder?
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[e-mail] (D Stark) wrote:

>Is anyone aware of a shareware program that can be used with
>an existing radio modem to decode ACARS transmissions?  I'm
>looking for something similar to the POCSAG decoder program
>being discussed in another thread.

At this time there is AFAIK no complete ACARS decoding shareware( or
public domain ).

Tigger



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[e-mail] (Iain L. Taylor) wrote:
>
>At this time there is AFAIK no complete ACARS decoding shareware( or
>public domain ).
>
>Tigger
>
Didnt someone just post a load of binaries in alt.radio.scanner.uk ???


sid



From [e-mail] Sat Oct 19 10:42:14 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Gordon Flemming)
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What is supposed to be the difference between these two groups?




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From: [e-mail] (Tim Moore)
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In article <[e-mail]>, From Larry Borges
<[e-mail]>, the following was written:
> Need advice on best antenna for hand held scanner.  Make, Model, $$$,
> and where to buy....  Thanks in advance...  LWB

You don't have much to choose from. Radio Shack makes one that is center
loaded and is adjustable for various freq.s. I think it cost about
$15-18. It does beat the rubber duckie antenna.



From [e-mail] Sat Oct 19 10:42:16 1996
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Need advice on best antenna for hand held scanner.  Make, Model, $$$, and
where to buy....  Thanks in advance...  LWB


From [e-mail] Sat Oct 19 10:42:17 1996
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Tim Moore wrote:
>
> In article <[e-mail]>, From Larry Borges
> <[e-mail]>, the following was written:
> > Need advice on best antenna for hand held scanner.  Make, Model, $$$,
> > and where to buy....  Thanks in advance...  LWB
>
> You don't have much to choose from. Radio Shack makes one that is center
> loaded and is adjustable for various freq.s. I think it cost about
> $15-18. It does beat the rubber duckie antenna.  Boy is that off the mark!
Many retailers are selling the Austin
antenna (I think it is called the Condor, or something like that...).  It
is a large rubber duckie type with considerable gain at 800 mhz (where
there is LOTS of stuff these days).  I have used it on 2 different hts
even in the aircraft band and it beats the wet noodle standard duckie
hands down.  Also I understand some 2/440 ham ht antennas are quite good
as replacements (I think Bob Grove reviewed an antenna by Anli that was
quite good for this).   73s  Mike


From [e-mail] Sat Oct 19 10:42:17 1996
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From: Dan Fortin <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Antenna need a ground??
Date: Mon, 14 Oct 1996 00:57:32 -0500
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Question: I bought a discone antenna to hook up to my Pro-2006, but
since I live in an apartment complex, the antenna will be used strictly
indoors. Since it won't be outside, do I need to ground it ?? If so, is
there any way of doing this inside short of plugging a wire from the
antenna right into the ground plug of an AC outlet?? The antenna is
currently hanging from the ceiling from a hook and string.


Please email:
[e-mail]



From [e-mail] Sat Oct 19 10:42:18 1996
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From: Dave <[e-mail]>
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KIRK MCDONALD wrote:
>
> Tony White wrote:
> >


I found the perfect center element for my discone to be a stainless steel whip
 antenna
off of a CHP car.

later
Dave


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[e-mail] wrote:
>
> I have a handheld scanner and was wondering if the "double duck" type
> of antennas that screw on the top of the scanner are worth the money
> in terms of better reception?
>
> Thanks.

Me too.  I would also like to know if they help reception.

Thanks,

Steve


From [e-mail] Sat Oct 19 10:42:20 1996
From: [e-mail] (James Collins)
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Subject: Any 2011 mods?
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Date: Mon, 14 Oct 1996 05:28:55 GMT
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Hello Bill,
 I've been reading messages in this area for about a month or so.
I've noticed that many people seem to have a problem with your messages.
Its also very evident that you know your stuff!
 I have one simple question for you.

  "Are there any mods that can be performed on a Realistic Pro 2011?"

ANY you know of, or maybe where I could look for info, would be of some
help.



Yes, I know its a piece of shit.
Yes, I know that I should buy a new one.
But...     NO, I don't have the money right now.
and I DO have the 2011 laying around.

 Thanks,
  James

---
 * WaveRdr 1.10 [NR] * UNREGISTERED EVALUATION COPY


From [e-mail] Sat Oct 19 10:42:21 1996
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From: [e-mail]
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Subject: anyone can send me a wav of a pocsag sound ?
Date: Thu, 17 Oct 1996 20:29:29 GMT
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anyone can send me a wav of a pocsag sound please ?
this is to test a program and compare this sound to a sound listened
here , i am not sure this is pocsag

thanks to send it at my mail
Yo hablo espa±ol ,
I speak English .
Mais je parle mieux Franτais !



From [e-mail] Sat Oct 19 10:42:22 1996
From: [e-mail] (Bob Penhale)
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Subject: AOR 2700 - Comments?
Date: Sun, 13 Oct 1996 22:49:43 GMT
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I'm considering an upgrade from a BC 200XLT to the AOR 2700.  Any
opinions on the latter unit?

Thanks in advance,
Bob.



From [e-mail] Sat Oct 19 10:42:23 1996
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From: Brian Varine <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: AOR 2700 - Comments?
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On Sun, 13 Oct 1996, Bob Penhale wrote:

> I'm considering an upgrade from a BC 200XLT to the AOR 2700.  Any
> opinions on the latter unit?


Yeah, don't buy it. I myself have both units and the BC200XLT is a lot
better in terms of the receiver. The 2700 has a lot of features but they
stopped at the receiver. My 200XLT outperforms the 2700 in UHF. ONe
bright spot, 800MHz, it's pretty damn good compared to the 200XLT. It
also has MilAir. If your expecting a budget AOR 8K, this ain't it. If you
pay $200-250 for it it's not a bad deal I guess. Figuring th 200 was $225
new I'd say the 2700 should be in the same price range. Shoot, I'll sell
you mine for $190.


From [e-mail] Sat Oct 19 10:42:24 1996
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From: Rich Wells <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: AOR-8000 Switch Problem
Date: Tue, 15 Oct 1996 06:59:40 -0400
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Mr. Hermit,
  Try to get ahold of the latest issue of US Scanner News. They have an
article on how to fix your very problem. I think they managed to find
replacement knobs from either a Uniden or Icom radio...that and a little
glue made for a cheap fix.

Strong signals,
Rich Wells
N2MCA
Owner : Pro-34/43/60/26/2006/2042 BC-3000/9000 AR-2700/8000 MVT-7100 R-1
Former Owner : Pro-51 BCT-7 BC-8500
North Carolina editor
The Scanner Club
http://www.enter.net/~jheller/scanclub.html

The Hermit wrote:
>
> The power Switch knob on my 8000 has started just spinning in place
> with out turning on the radio... (My wife played with it.  Grrrrrrrrr)


From [e-mail] Sat Oct 19 10:42:25 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Daniel Ayers)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: AOR-8000 Switch Problem
Date: 15 Oct 1996 22:06:45 GMT
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The Hermit ([e-mail]) wrote:

: The power Switch knob on my 8000 has started just spinning in place
: with out turning on the radio... (My wife played with it.  Grrrrrrrrr)

Tell your wife to keep her hands off your knobs!  [:-)))]

Is the knob itself rotating around the shaft (geez, that sounds rude!) or
is the shaft rotating with no effect?  Pull the knob off to find out which.

: this up. I can't see a set screw and the knob won't come off with
: gentel pressure.

It should, pull hard. ;-)  Mine come off easily.

: As an aside I love the radio but the knobs are a little cheezzy. For
: what the radio cost it seem sort of cheaply made.

Someone was marketing replacement knobs, and quite cheaply too.  I don't
have their details, but maybe someone else can help ...

(FWIW, I think the AR8000 is a *great* scanner that suffers from a handful
of basic problems, like the one you mention, that could have been easily
corrected at little or no cost.)

Daniel.

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From: [e-mail]
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Subject: Re: AOR-8000 Switch Problem
Date: Tue, 15 Oct 1996 14:34:21 -0700
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The Hermit wrote:
>
> The power Switch knob on my 8000 has started just spinning in place
> with out turning on the radio... (My wife played with it.  Grrrrrrrrr)
>
> If you push down on it it will engage.  Is there anyway to tighten
> this up. I can't see a set screw and the knob won't come off with
> gentel pressure. Has any one had one of these apart to see what holds
> the knobs on..
>
> As an aside I love the radio but the knobs are a little cheezzy. For
> what the radio cost it seem sort of cheaply made.
Is it the rubber knob that has failed?  If so, call EDCO and get some
new rubber knobs.  The new ones are thicker and are made of a harder
material.  I've had mine for over a year now and they are still good.



From [e-mail] Sat Oct 19 10:42:26 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Homer J. Simpson)
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In article <5411tm$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Daniel
 Ayers) wrote:

>Someone was marketing replacement knobs, and quite cheaply too.  I don't
>have their details, but maybe someone else can help ...

Store hours: Eastern Time Monday-Friday 10 AM to 6 PM,
            Thursday 10 AM to 8 PM, Saturday 10 AM to 4 PM.
                                  Our store address is:
                      323 Mill Street NE Vienna, VA 22180
                              Our telephone numbers are:
                  Sales Desk/ Catalog Orders 800 368 3270
                            Technical Help 703 938 3350
                                     FAX [phone]

                       www.access.digex.net/~eeb/eeb.html

I just got new knobs about three weeks ago - they ARE made better than the old

ones - $3 for the set (one plain, two with white dots).


From [e-mail] Sat Oct 19 10:42:27 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Tom Bonazza)
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Subject: AOR8000 "RF" command
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When I send my ar8000 the RF command the respone I get is RFxxxxxxxxx
STyyyyyyy MDzz...etc, not RFxxxxxxxxx (what my CU8232 manual says I should
get back).  Is there an alternative command that returns only the frequency?

Tom
[e-mail]



From [e-mail] Sat Oct 19 10:42:28 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Cloud78572)
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Subject: APT Satellite recv.
Date: 15 Oct 1996 01:09:20 -0400
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 Does anyone know how I could easily convert the audio from an APT
satellite into something that my AEA FAX2 would think was HF fax?
Satellite audio is 2400 hz tone varying in amplitude.I would have to turn
this into an 1800 hz tone varying in frequency. I was thinking of making
an op-amp tone generator at 1800 hz and somehow modulating it with the
satellite audio. Is this possible, and can anyone come up with a
schematic? Thanks in advance !
   P.S. does anyone know of any soundblaster demodulators that actually
work?


From [e-mail] Sat Oct 19 10:42:30 1996
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[e-mail] (Cloud78572) wrote:

> Does anyone know how I could easily convert the audio from an APT
>satellite into something that my AEA FAX2 would think was HF fax?
>Satellite audio is 2400 hz tone varying in amplitude.I would have to turn
>this into an 1800 hz tone varying in frequency. I was thinking of making
>an op-amp tone generator at 1800 hz and somehow modulating it with the
>satellite audio. Is this possible, and can anyone come up with a
>schematic? Thanks in advance !
>   P.S. does anyone know of any soundblaster demodulators that actually
>work?

  Take a look at Ralph Taggarts book "Weather Satellite Handbook",
Chapter 5, page 5-5.  I have used this circuit (I used a 4046 VCO in
place of the A to D converter) and got pretty good results...but only
after much tweeking of the 2 resistors and the capacitor used in the
VCO circuit.  The limiting factor in my set-up, I think, was the fact
that I was using a RS 2006 scanner to receive the satellite signal.
Unfortunately, the narrow band bandwidth is too narrow and wide band
is too wide.  I have a different scanner now with a bandwidth better
suited for this application...your note has inspired me to give it
another try!  By the way, for debugging purposes, I found it very
convenient to record the satellite signals on an old VCR...much better
than waiting 12 hours for the next pass to check out the "latest
tweek" :)  Good luck and keep me posted on your progress.
                                      Cliff




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From: [e-mail] (George Sambataro)
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Subject: AR 2700
Date: Mon, 14 Oct 1996 20:52:01 GMT
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IS anyone familiar with the AR2700 500 channel scanner?  . Covers
500khz to 1300 mhz, continuous for about $360.

Thanks,

George



From [e-mail] Sat Oct 19 10:42:32 1996
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George,
   AOR has discontinued the 2700...so most places are unloading their
stock
in the low $200 range. Consider yourself fortunate if you can find one.
However, if this is your first or second scanner, I would recommend
buying
a Uniden BC-3000XLT instead which can be had for low to mid $300 range
and is worth every penny...IMHO.

Strong signals,
Rich Wells
N2MCA
Owner : Pro-34/43/60/26/2006/2042 BC-3000/9000 AR-2700/8000 MVT-7100 R-1
Former Owner : Pro-51 BCT-7 BC-8500
North Carolina editor
The Scanner Club
http://www.enter.net/~jheller/scanclub.html

George Sambataro wrote:
>
> IS anyone familiar with the AR2700 500 channel scanner?  . Covers
> 500khz to 1300 mhz, continuous for about $360.
>
> Thanks,
>
> George


From [e-mail] Sat Oct 19 10:42:33 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Bowiemaker)
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I need info on how well the AR 8000 performs as a SWL set. I am interested
in mild SWL, and mostly CW and SSB on the HAM bands. How does it compare
to the Sony Pro 80, or should I have a Grundig, or Sony 2010, 7600G, etc.
Thank you very much for your help.


From [e-mail] Sat Oct 19 10:42:34 1996
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From: Mike Mayer <[e-mail]>
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In article <543r9d$[e-mail]>,
        [e-mail] (Bowiemaker) wrote:

>I need info on how well the AR 8000 performs as a SWL set. I am interested
>in mild SWL, and mostly CW and SSB on the HAM bands. How does it compare
>to the Sony Pro 80, or should I have a Grundig, or Sony 2010, 7600G, etc.
>Thank you very much for your help.

 Most SW-specific radio's will outperform the AR8000 on the SW bands.  You
compromise a bit on performance with a smaller package.  However, I have
connected a longwire antenna to the AR8000 and have had quite respectable
shortwave reception.  Any rubber duck antenna is going to suck as far as SW
reception, so go for the wire, or dipole/balun if you are really serious.

That having been said, the AR8000 does have true carrier reinsertion for USB
and LSB.  Also has CW and AM modes.  It's not as convenient to do "spin the
knob" manual tuning, but as far as dialing in a frequency or simply
searching automatically thru the SW bands it does a pretty good job.  I have
devoted a bank in my AR8000 to just SW frequencies, such as VOA, BBC, WWV,
etc.

Fun stuff.

MIke


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Subject: AR 8000 and Opto Scout *******************************************
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I'm seriously thinking of buying an AR 8K and was wondering if anyone
had any experiences (good/bad) adding the Opto Scout 40. Does the Scout
add significantly to the 8K's usefulness and enjoyment. Anybody have
any vendor recommendations. Post or e-mail at [e-mail].
Thanks!


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Anthony D. Proctor ([e-mail]) wrote:
: I'm seriously thinking of buying an AR 8K and was wondering if anyone
: had any experiences (good/bad) adding the Opto Scout 40. Does the Scout
: add significantly to the 8K's usefulness and enjoyment. Anybody have
: any vendor recommendations. Post or e-mail at [e-mail].
: Thanks!

The only downside I have experienced is it switching to a new sensed
frequency when I wanted to stay on the one I was just on.  I've also
had it lock onto intermod noise a couple of times.


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From: [e-mail]
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Subject: ar2700 frequencies
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In my manual and on the back of the scanner it says it receives
frequencies .5-1300 MHz but I can get it to tune down to .1 MHz.  Is
this the same for anybody else?  Does anyone know why this is?


From [e-mail] Sat Oct 19 10:42:37 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Mark Polvi)
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Subject: ar2700 owner's manual
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I recently purchased a used ar2700 without a manual to operate it.
Does anyone know where I might be able to purchase a xerox copy or fax
copy of the owner's manual?  I have tried EDCO and they have them on
back order for 2-3 weeks if you can believe any more will be shipped
on this discontinued scanner.  Please send me a message if you can
help. Thanks. Mark.



From [e-mail] Sat Oct 19 10:42:38 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Sid James)
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Anyone got the plans to build an interface for the AR8000
know its a max 232 jobby and some caps.......
just need pin info (max232 and ar8000) thanks
Sid



From [e-mail] Sat Oct 19 10:42:39 1996
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From: [e-mail](Anthony D. Proctor )
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Subject: AR8000 slipping knob FIX
Date: 16 Oct 1996 21:16:03 GMT
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As per Steve Donnell, WA1YKL, in the October 1996 U.S.Scanner News:

"The new knobs can be ordered from Icom America by calling them at:
                         [phone]
 The part number you want to order is described as N152 knob, for the
 IC-R100, with an ICOM part number of 93009420. The cost of the knobs
 is only $1.15 each."


From [e-mail] Sat Oct 19 10:42:40 1996
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Subject: Re: AR8000 slipping knob FIX
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Sid James ([e-mail]) wrote:

: Dont suppose anyone thought of contacting AOR to get the correct
: replacement knob did they ??

Why get another knob from AOR???  The object of this is to get a better
replacement knob than was originally on the radio.


                                WELCOME TO
                                 THE WORLD
                                  OF AR8000
                                   RECEIVER



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From: "Robert H. Eisner" <[e-mail]>
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To: Ed Michelson <[e-mail]>

Ed Michelson wrote:
>
> I am going to Atlanta this weekend.  Does anyone have frequencies for
> Atlanta, esp. the airport.  I am particularly interested in airline
> company frequencies, airinc, and hf frequencies in use to test the hf
> radios of planes prior to departure.
>
> thanks in advance
> --
> Edward A. Michelson
> Northwestern University, Evanston, IL.   USA
> [e-mail]

Hi Ed,

The following frequencies came from the AirNav WEB site at:

  http://www.cc.gatech.edu/fly/cgi-bin/airport-info?ATL

             UNICOM: 122.95
              ATIS: 119.65(ARR)
                    125.55(DEP)
    ATLANTA GROUND: 121.75(RWYS 9L/27R & 9R/27L)
                    121.9(RWYS 8R/26L & 8L/26R)
     ATLANTA TOWER: 119.1(RWYS 9R/27L & 9L/27R)
                    119.5(RY 08R/26L & 08L/26R)
  ATLANTA APPROACH: 126.9(270-089)
                    127.9(090-269)
                    118.35(090-269)
                    127.25(270-089)
 ATLANTA DEPARTURE: 125.0(090-269)
                    125.7 (270-089)
CLEARANCE DELIVERY: 121.65
PRE-TAXI CLEARANCE: 121.65
           CLASS B: 119.3(E V97 & N V18)
                    119.8(S V18)
                    121.0(W V97 & N V18)
             EMERG: 121.5
                IC: 127.9(090-269)

Bob


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From: [e-mail] (Ed Michelson)
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I am going to Atlanta this weekend.  Does anyone have frequencies for
Atlanta, esp. the airport.  I am particularly interested in airline
company frequencies, airinc, and hf frequencies in use to test the hf
radios of planes prior to departure.

thanks in advance
--
Edward A. Michelson
Northwestern University, Evanston, IL.   USA
[e-mail]



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From: [e-mail] (Paul Britton)
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Date: 19 Oct 1996 10:30:31 GMT
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In article <54744a$[e-mail]>,
[e-mail] says...
>
>Anyone got any frequency lists for Australia. In particular Victoria.
>Email >>>[e-mail]<<<    Thanks
>

Have a look at http://www.tbsa.com.au, heaps of information...

Paul



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Does anyone know where to find the frequencies used by the personel at
the 1996 Australian Motorcycle Grand Prix?

Please mail any info to [e-mail]

Thanx!
Andrew


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From: [e-mail](BAYCITVIDGRP)
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Subject: Re: B  Radio Shack salesman plays DUMB !
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In <544i8o$[e-mail]> [e-mail] writes:
>
> Uniden makes Radio Shack's radio right, right !  Everybody knows it
too ! So when
>you ask a Radio Shack salesman, they play dumb and pretend they have
never
>heard of a company called Uniden. Pretty funny ! Just something for
thought !


     It is alleged that Radio Shack makes most of their radios.
     Such as the 2000 series radio sets, base models.  The big
     ones and then the latest not so big ones...but desk only.

     It is allged that Uniden Makes the PRO-2000 series , those
     that go into the car / desk.  The PatrolMan only goes mobile.
     These Uniden Make.

      Radio Shack be Tandy.

     The portables allegedly are Tandy's...the Pro 43's. etc.
      That is Radio Shack's parent holding company.


     allegedly yours

      bill conduit


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From: [e-mail]
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[e-mail] wrote:
> Uniden makes Radio Shack's radio right, right !  Everybody knows it too ! So
 when
>you ask a Radio Shack salesman, they play dumb and pretend they have never
>heard of a company called Uniden. Pretty funny ! Just something for thought !


The top of the line RS scanners are made by GRE of Japan...not Uniden.
Been that way for years...everybody knows it, too.




From [e-mail] Sat Oct 19 10:42:47 1996
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From: [e-mail] (tyler)
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In article <544i8o$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] says...
>
> Uniden makes Radio Shack's radio right, right !  Everybody knows it too ! So

when
>you ask a Radio Shack salesman, they play dumb and pretend they have never
>heard of a company called Uniden. Pretty funny ! Just something for thought !


Most of those guys can't find their own ass with both hands.  I was in there
the other day looking for a DTMF decoder.  The guy had no idea what so ever
what touch tones were.  As for playing dumb......I don't think they're
playing. ...tyler



From [e-mail] Sat Oct 19 10:42:48 1996
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From: [e-mail](Steve S)
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In <544i8o$[e-mail]> [e-mail] writes:
>
> Uniden makes Radio Shack's radio right, right !  Everybody knows it
too ! So when
>you ask a Radio Shack salesman, they play dumb and pretend they have
never
>heard of a company called Uniden. Pretty funny ! Just something for
thought !

I once went in a Cutis Mathis store and saw my Panasonic VCR with a
Curtis Mathis label on it.  I told the salesman that C-M must buy VCRs
from Panasonic as none are made/assembled in the US.  He said "No way,
we make these in Texas and sell them to the Japanese for them to market
under the Panasonic name".  I was ROFLMAO!!!!!!

Steve S.
KAF8111


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From: [e-mail] (Tony White)
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In article <544i8o$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] says...
>
> Uniden makes Radio Shack's radio right, right !  Everybody knows it too ! So

when
>you ask a Radio Shack salesman, they play dumb and pretend they have never
>heard of a company called Uniden. Pretty funny ! Just something for thought !


Most of 'em don't have to *play*.



From [e-mail] Sat Oct 19 10:42:49 1996
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From: [e-mail]
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: B  Radio Shack salesman plays DUMB !
Date: Fri, 18 Oct 1996 03:23:50 GMT
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[e-mail] (tyler) wrote:

>
>Most of those guys can't find their own ass with both hands.  I was in there
>the other day looking for a DTMF decoder.  The guy had no idea what so ever
>what touch tones were.  As for playing dumb......I don't think they're
>playing. ...tyler
>
The sad part about it is as soon as you get in the door, they're all
over you like flies on crap - "Can I hup ya, can I hup ya?".  (Yeah,
give me a million dollars.)  I usually bite my tongue real hard and
tell them I can find what I need.  However, in one store, the same
salesman can back to me twice within a few minutes - "Can I hup ya!?".
I gave him both barrels.

 If you want to have some fun with them, tell them you're building a
time machine, and you need some help with parts, schematics, etc..
Usually does the trick, but the spacey ones think it's kinda *cool*.

Jim Muldoon



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From: [e-mail] (Dr Pepper)
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Subject: Re: B  Radio Shack salesman plays DUMB !
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On Fri, 18 Oct 1996 02:56:16 GMT, [e-mail] (Stephen
Allocco) wrote:

>If the Shackdroid doesn't know who Uniden is, it's pathethic
>because a professional would make a point of staying on top
>of things in his field.  (We're talking "reading a magazine
>or two in the field," not "getting a doctorate in electrical
>engineering.")
>
>If the Shackdroid _knows_ who Uniden is and is in fact
>"playing dumb," it's pathethic because he doesn't care
>enough to present even the impression that he knows about
>his field and could be a resource to his customers.
>Maybe I'm expecting too much here, though.
>
>Steve Allocco
><[e-mail]>
>

You have questions? they have answers, , , , NOT!
Don't forget, we're talking minimum wage "professionals" here.
Dr Pepper
10 - 2 - 4
Good Anytime


From [e-mail] Sat Oct 19 10:42:51 1996
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From: [e-mail](BAYCITVIDGRP)
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In <[e-mail]> [e-mail]
(Dr Pepper) writes:
>

>><[e-mail]>
>>
>
>You have questions? they have answers, , , , NOT!
>Don't forget, we're talking minimum wage "professionals" here.
>Dr Pepper
>10 - 2 - 4
>Good Anytime


       ......plus a commission on all sales they make.

       .....the manager gets overrides on all volume over
      the quota....

      the commission is "minimum" too.....

       bill conduit


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From: [e-mail] (chainsaw)
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[e-mail](Steve S) wrote:

>In <544i8o$[e-mail]> [e-mail] writes:
>>
>> Uniden makes Radio Shack's radio right, right !  Everybody knows it
>too ! So when
>>you ask a Radio Shack salesman, they play dumb and pretend they have
>never
>>heard of a company called Uniden. Pretty funny ! Just something for
>thought !

>I once went in a Cutis Mathis store and saw my Panasonic VCR with a
>Curtis Mathis label on it.  I told the salesman that C-M must buy VCRs
>from Panasonic as none are made/assembled in the US.  He said "No way,
>we make these in Texas and sell them to the Japanese for them to market
>under the Panasonic name".  I was ROFLMAO!!!!!!

>Steve S.
>KAF8111

That's pfunnie!!



From [e-mail] Sat Oct 19 10:42:53 1996
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BAYCITVIDGRP wrote:
>
> In <544i8o$[e-mail]> [e-mail] writes:
> >
> > Uniden makes Radio Shack's radio right, right !  Everybody knows it
> too ! So when
> >you ask a Radio Shack salesman, they play dumb and pretend they have
> never
> >heard of a company called Uniden. Pretty funny ! Just something for
> thought !
>
>      It is alleged that Radio Shack makes most of their radios.
>      Such as the 2000 series radio sets, base models.  The big
>      ones and then the latest not so big ones...but desk only.
>
>      It is allged that Uniden Makes the PRO-2000 series , those
>      that go into the car / desk.  The PatrolMan only goes mobile.
>      These Uniden Make.
>
>       Radio Shack be Tandy.
>
>      The portables allegedly are Tandy's...the Pro 43's. etc.
>       That is Radio Shack's parent holding company.
>
>
>      allegedly yours
>
>       bill conduit
WELL THATS SIMPLE RADIO SHACK SUCKS


From [e-mail] Sat Oct 19 10:42:54 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Blue dot 9)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: B  Radio Shack salesman plays DUMB !
Date: 19 Oct 1996 04:49:41 -0400
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At my areal RS stores (about 12), the droids are shocked when I say that
some are Uniden, and some are GRE.  They really believe that this stuff is
MADE in Fort Worth.

This guy gave me the dirtiest-fucking-look after mentioning the facts, and
then he blew me off as being a nut.  All he could do was give a cheesy
smile, shift his eyes, and say (with a chuckle), "Naaah,...(hehe) I've
never heard anything like *that* before.  It says Realistic and Radio
Shack on ALL of OUR scanners."

Furthermore, I am considered a nusiance by the droids, because I know what
I need, and to top things off....I start helping other customers with what
they should and shouldn't buy!!!

I kept on telling some customers that GMRS was what they where looking
for, and not CB (for their particular application).  The droid said that
GMRS was only a Global Pos. Sat. receiver, and couldn't be used as a
radio.  Get it?  GPS</>GMRS HA!

Then the droid wanted to sell them either the HTX-202 or the HTX-404,
because it had more channels to talk on!!!  Get a load of this bastard.
Then I told them to go to a REAL radio supply store because I knew a guy
at that store that could give them a substantial discount, and he knows
what he is talking about (not like RS mall droids).

They also get pissed when I look for scanners with date codes.  All these
fuckers look at me like I am a nut, and they say..."sir, they're all the
same....none of them can be modified."  When I find what I am looking for
I just buy it and leave without a word.  I don't tell them exactly what I
am looking for (< 2A4, and other ), and I don't tell them how to mod the
scanners.

I have told some about the OS-535 and such and the first thing they do is
say, "but that will void your warranty...", and "well I can't sell you
something if your are doing something illegal...it's store
policy.......!!!!"  The latter came about after the Oklahoma City Bombing
(which I have been to, and is very sad to see--yet it's so small and it
looks about ten pounds heavier on TV).

Kinda sounds familiar to you, doesn't it?

Dave
(Scanner Flatulaire)

In article <544i8o$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] writes:

> Uniden makes Radio Shack's radio right, right !  Everybody knows it too
! So
>when
>you ask a Radio Shack salesman, they play dumb and pretend they have
never
>heard of a company called Uniden. Pretty funny ! Just something for
thought !
>
>
>



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From: Joe Makatura <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: B  Radio Shack salesman plays DUMB !
Date: Fri, 18 Oct 1996 23:44:12 -0600
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[e-mail] wrote:
>
>  Uniden makes Radio Shack's radio right, right !  Everybody knows it too ! S
o when
> you ask a Radio Shack salesman, they play dumb and pretend they have never
> heard of a company called Uniden. Pretty funny ! Just something for thought
!
Uniden DOES NOT make all of RS's scanners. Actually, until lately, very
few. Most are made by GRE.

Joe


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From: [e-mail] (PKHARTLEY)
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Subject: Re: B  Radio Shack salesman plays DUMB !
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In article <544i8o$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] writes:

>Uniden makes Radio Shack's radio right, right !  Everybody knows it too !
So
>when
>you ask a Radio Shack salesman, they play dumb and pretend they have
never
>heard of a company called Uniden. Pretty funny ! Just something for
thought !
>
>
>

Most of the stuff in RS is made by other companies. I wonder if RS or
Tandy actually manufactures anything!

Scanners: GRE, Uniden
Some Shortwave Radios: Sangean
900 MHz SS Cordless phone: Escort
Most Calculators: Casio

Any others?


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Subject: Baseband Audio Interface?
Date: Fri, 11 Oct 96 13:21:49 GMT
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I've read that the audio signal present at the baseband audio output is
superior to the audio presented at the 'tape out' jack for purposes of tone
detection.  If true, does anyone have a tried-and-true means of interfacing
this signal from the discriminator (right?) to something like a DTMF decoder
chip?  Thanks and regards,

Steve


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From: [e-mail] (John J. Scala)
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Date: 15 Oct 1996 01:21:54 GMT
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Is there any kind of modifications that can be made to a Bearcat 142XL? Maybe
to increase its frequency range or sensitivity, etc? I have not seen this mode
l
mentioned at all in this area, but maybe this is for a reason <grin>. Any info

would be appreciated. Thanks.
                                 John J.Scala



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From: [e-mail] (Jimmy Simmons)
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Subject: Re: BC 760 XLT Cell Mod Wanted
Date: 17 Oct 1996 01:01:08 -0500
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[e-mail] wrote:
: My 760 gets cell images great at 21.7 above the cell freq. Try it, maybe you
: will decide not to bother with the mod.
: Phil

  Agreed...   scanning the band limits from

  895.000 mHz  to 915.000 mHz

 on mine works extremely well, I was able to hear conversations where
the people in the vehicle would be 2 cities away from my location so
I was apparently picking up the cell-site from the area they were in.

  Works well, and right in the middle of the US AMATEUR RADIO BAND..

 902~928mHz

   The NeXus!
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From [e-mail] Sat Oct 19 10:42:59 1996
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From: "W. Charles Alexander" <[e-mail]>
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Subject: BC 860 XLT and PRO 43 for sale
Date: 16 Oct 1996 12:23:55 GMT
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This may be a 2 nd post, sorry if it is. I posted early Wed am and it was
not in an hour latter, so I re posted.

BC860 XLT very good condition with box and manual    95.00 shipped to 48
PRO 43 good condition with box and manual   195.00 shipped to 48

OR Will sell both for 255.00!

Will ship via ups    Will NOT ship COD it takes to lone to get the money,
and that is the reason I am selling them.

--
W. Charles Alexander
[e-mail]


From [e-mail] Sat Oct 19 10:43:00 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Edward W. Carr)
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Subject: BC 890 XLT....
Date: Mon, 14 Oct 1996 16:55:35 GMT
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Does anyone know the correct mods for this scanner????

I found one place that had one

ftp://ftp.qrz.com/mods/bc890xlt.txt

but the instructions are very vague and as a result I lost my lowband
27 mhz - 66 mhz.  I put it back the way it was and every thing worked
fine.  So if any one could offer the correct mod for my scanner I
would really appreciate it...

Thanks in advance

T. Carr

P.S. here is a copy of the mod I downloaded.....

Subject: bc890xlt-800mhz full restore



1. remove all cabinet screws.

2. remove 4 face plate screws and 1 bracket screw at center of main
board.

3. carefully depress the outside edges of faceplate shield and tilt
down.

4. unplug j4 and j5 and ribbon connectors j501 j502 and j503.

5. remove faceplate and logic board.

6. position board so microprossoe chip is on left and memory battery
on right.

7. locate the 3 chip resistors at chips upper right..marked 104 and

   carefully desolder.

8. install the chip resistor at the 2 empty pads closest to memory
battery.

(The chip could be on several different padds.. Horizontal or vertical
Could you be more specific I tried many different combinations and
none worked...)


9. reassemble carefully in reverse order.

10. test by entering freq. around 870 mhz.



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From: [e-mail] (Edward W. Carr)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: BC 890 XLT....
Date: Tue, 15 Oct 1996 15:28:01 GMT
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On 15 Oct 1996 01:03:25 -0400, [e-mail] (Cloud78572) wrote:
> It worked for my '890. I don't think it will work if your s/n ends in
>"D". What kind of 890xlt do you have that covers 27 to 60 mhz? Mine is 29
>to 54mhz.

I was not sure of the specifics mine is also 29 - 54mhz  and then
starts at 66 again I Think.....

Which two pads is it refering to ???? Right next to the three that I
removed?  And does it go horizontal or vertical... I assume
vertical....  there wre four blank pads to choose from.... and they
formed a square...  What is the rating of the chips in ohms also if
you know??  I may have fried them although I was using a very low
wattage solidering iron...



From [e-mail] Sat Oct 19 10:43:02 1996
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From: Kari Eriksson <[e-mail]>
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Subject: BC-220XLT
Date: Wed, 16 Oct 1996 12:45:43 +0200
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Uniden Bearcat BC-220 XLT modifications needed!
Are there any WWW or FTP where mods can be found?

Also all articles of 220 XLT are welcome.


Kari


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From: Dan Niro <[e-mail]>
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Subject: BC9000XLT vs PRO2006 Recommendations Wanted
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OK Guys,
Im interested in buying a new scanner and I need some recommendations.
From what I'm reading, the current hot models are the BC9000XLT and the
PRO2006. Anybody know anything good / bad about one vs the other? I'm
interested in performance and features. And if I'm gonna make the
investment, I gotta have cell-band coverage (or the ability to restore
it). I haven't yet heard of a fix to restore cellular on the new 9000XLT
(does a fix exist?). I heard the euro-9000 received cell, but a segment
of the VHF-Lo band was blocked to comply with euro regulations, this
would be unacceptable if it's true. Does either perform better? Which
should I get? Accurate and reliable feedback is appreciated...

                        thanx.


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From: [e-mail] (Michael Alexander)
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Subject: Re: BC9000XLT vs PRO2006 Recommendations Wanted
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In article <[e-mail]>, Dan Niro <[e-mail]> wrot
e:

> OK Guys,
> Im interested in buying a new scanner and I need some recommendations.
> From what I'm reading, the current hot models are the BC9000XLT and the
> PRO2006. Anybody know anything good / bad about one vs the other? I'm
> interested in performance and features. And if I'm gonna make the
> investment, I gotta have cell-band coverage (or the ability to restore
> it). I haven't yet heard of a fix to restore cellular on the new 9000XLT
> (does a fix exist?). I heard the euro-9000 received cell, but a segment
> of the VHF-Lo band was blocked to comply with euro regulations, this
> would be unacceptable if it's true. Does either perform better? Which
> should I get? Accurate and reliable feedback is appreciated...
>
>                         thanx.

By stating that you want cell coverage, you have already made your decision.

--
Michael Alexander
[e-mail]


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From: [e-mail] (Per H. Nielsen)
Newsgroups: alt.radio.scanner,rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: BC9000XLT vs PRO2006 Recommendations Wanted
Date: 16 Oct 1996 12:42:44 GMT
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Dan Niro <[e-mail]> writes:

>OK Guys,
>Im interested in buying a new scanner and I need some recommendations.
>From what I'm reading, the current hot models are the BC9000XLT and the
>PRO2006. Anybody know anything good / bad about one vs the other? I'm
>interested in performance and features. And if I'm gonna make the
>investment, I gotta have cell-band coverage (or the ability to restore
>it). I haven't yet heard of a fix to restore cellular on the new 9000XLT
>(does a fix exist?). I heard the euro-9000 received cell, but a segment
>of the VHF-Lo band was blocked to comply with euro regulations, this
>would be unacceptable if it's true. Does either perform better? Which
>should I get? Accurate and reliable feedback is appreciated...

Well both radios have their advantages. This is what I can
recall from memory:

PRO-2006 advantages:

  Easy cellular restore.
  Computer control boards available
  Many modifications available

BC9000 advantages:

  Scans very fast (100 ch/s vs approx. 30 ch/s for PRO-2006)
  More memory channels (500 vs 400)
  More memory banks (20 vs 10)
  Alfanumeric tags
  Optional CTCSS board (possible on PRO-2006 with computer interface)

Since I have no practical experience with the BC9000 myself, I cannot
comment on the RF performance. I do however own a UBC3000 which
in many ways is operated like the BC9000 and I must say that I
perfer the UBC3000 to the PRO-2006 considering operation. I do
however miss the possibility to store 10 search ranges, which is
a very nice feature on PRO-2006.

As for the European version (UBC9000XLT) this has full coverage,
except for the UHF TV band also missing on PRO-2006. There are no
general European regulations demanding exclusion of certain bands.

Regards
Per

--
Per H. Nielsen                                 Telephone:  Int [phone]
Software Division                              Fax:        Int [phone]
Dansk Data Elektronik A/S, Herlev, Denmark     E-mail:     [e-mail]


From [e-mail] Sat Oct 19 10:43:07 1996
From: [e-mail] (Jonathan Clough)
Subject: Re: BC9000XLT vs PRO2006 Recommendations Wanted
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In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] "Dan Niro" write
s:

>  I heard the euro-9000 received cell, but a segment
> of the VHF-Lo band was blocked to comply with euro regulations, this
> would be unacceptable if it's true. Does either perform better? Which
> should I get? Accurate and reliable feedback is appreciated...

With regard to the UBC-9000XLT.

Yes. No.

As accurate as it can be:

UBC-9000XLT has 25-550MHz and 760-1300MHz, there are no "gaps" other than
760-1300MHz.

Other than this and the unfortunate fact that the UBC-9000XLT is more
expensive than then the US BC-9000XLT they are the same.


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From [e-mail] Sat Oct 19 10:43:08 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Bob Parnass, AJ9S)
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Subject: Re: BC9000XLT vs PRO2006 Recommendations Wanted
Date: 18 Oct 1996 03:06:08 GMT
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In article <[e-mail]>,
Art Yeap  <[e-mail]> wrote:

   >Wow, this is THE MAN! Any comments on the Icom handheld R-1 vs. these
   >others? Any comments would be appreciated. Tnx.

The R-1 I used had terrible selectivity on VHF and I wouldn't
recommend it.
--
==============================================================================
Copyright 1996, Bob Parnass, AJ9S                        [e-mail]

        Locate & identify transmitters in your area with RadioMap(tm)


From [e-mail] Sat Oct 19 10:43:09 1996
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From: [e-mail] (tisme)
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Subject: Bearcat 101
Date: 12 Oct 1996 02:47:09 GMT
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I was wondering how to use the Bearcat 101.  It is an analog scanner, so
I don't know how to program it.  It has a row of switches and LED's to
indicate which channel (I guess) the switch is for.  Whenever it is
scanning, it will stop at frequencies that sound like birdies and when
there is no antenna, it has better reception.  Any help is appreciated.

                                                                Tisme



From [e-mail] Sat Oct 19 10:43:10 1996
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Subject: Re: Bearcat 101
Date: Thu, 17 Oct 1996 12:08:06 -0400
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Andy wrote:
>
> Wow!  Memories!  I had one of those things and I thought the
> manual might still be in the files.  It was November 1977
> when I got it according, but sorry, no manual.  It cost $160 back
> then.  But I did find a BC-250 manual!!
>
> Andy
>
> On 12 Oct 1996 02:47:09 GMT, [e-mail] (tisme) wrote:
>
> >I was wondering how to use the Bearcat 101.  It is an analog scanner, so
> >I don't know how to program it.  It has a row of switches and LED's to
> >indicate which channel (I guess) the switch is for.  Whenever it is
> >scanning, it will stop at frequencies that sound like birdies and when
> >there is no antenna, it has better reception.  Any help is appreciated.
> >
> >                                                               Tisme
> >
If anyone needs a Bearcat 101 manual, I'd be glad to photocopy mine for
them.


From [e-mail] Sat Oct 19 10:43:11 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Andy)
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Date: Wed, 16 Oct 1996 23:21:29 GMT
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Wow!  Memories!  I had one of those things and I thought the
manual might still be in the files.  It was November 1977
when I got it according, but sorry, no manual.  It cost $160 back
then.  But I did find a BC-250 manual!!

Andy



On 12 Oct 1996 02:47:09 GMT, [e-mail] (tisme) wrote:

>I was wondering how to use the Bearcat 101.  It is an analog scanner, so
>I don't know how to program it.  It has a row of switches and LED's to
>indicate which channel (I guess) the switch is for.  Whenever it is
>scanning, it will stop at frequencies that sound like birdies and when
>there is no antenna, it has better reception.  Any help is appreciated.
>
>                                                               Tisme
>



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From: NJ Islander <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Bearcat 210xlt 40 channel?
Date: Tue, 15 Oct 1996 21:27:19 -0400
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Anyone know what this is worth, is it a reliable unit?  Thanks in
advance.


From [e-mail] Sat Oct 19 10:43:12 1996
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From: [e-mail](BAYCITVIDGRP)
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Subject: Re: Bearcat 210xlt 40 channel?
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In <[e-mail]> NJ Islander <[e-mail]>
writes:
>
>Anyone know what this is worth, is it a reliable unit?  Thanks in
>advance.

    I have a 210 and a 210xlt still working fine.

    The 210xlt is a fine machine and was very
    high on the satisfaction list...

    fifty bucks if ou can get it....

    the radio is very reliable...gets the ultra
    high freq's with no noise and the low freq's
    are very easy to get with this one...

    bill conduit


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Subject: Bearcat 760 XLT-Z ???
Date: Wed, 16 Oct 1996 22:06:12 -0700
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Hello everyone,

        I am interested in getting a scanner to use in my car.  I was informed
that the Bearcat 760 XLT-Z was a very good radio.  That it is used by
law enforcement and other agencies.  I would like to know what people
who have the radio think about it.  I am going to either get a scanner
like this or wait for the Beartrunker when it comes out since my
community is on 800 Mhz Motorola trunkings.

        73s

        Earl


From [e-mail] Sat Oct 19 10:43:14 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Sonya Lyles)
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Subject: Bearcat 860 Model?
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  I just ran across a Bearcat 860 at a clearance price of 159.99 on
mylunch hour today!  It sounds almost too good to be true. Can anyone
tell me what the difference is between this model and the 890 that I
am somewhat familiar with. This  860 seems to be very similar to the
890 and appears to have full coverage (29 - 956 less cellular) Can it
be moded? Is it being discontinued?

I'd be interested in anything anyone could tell me about this model.
Looks like I'll never get my hands on that old elusive Pro 2006 -- so
at the low price of $159 I could finally upgrade my trusty Pro 37
handheld and get that base station I've always wanted ;-)

TIA

            _
           (_`
           ._)onya


From [e-mail] Sat Oct 19 10:43:15 1996
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From: "Bill O'Connor" <[e-mail]>
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Great scanner!!  Has data delete function to cut down on birdies.  I have
heard it is not modifiable.  Turbo scan feature.  Cell coverage from 862 -
868.92 MHz.

Sonya Lyles <[e-mail]> wrote in article
<5419fm$hpn$[e-mail]>...
>

>
> I'd be interested in anything anyone could tell me about this model.



From [e-mail] Sat Oct 19 10:43:16 1996
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What are be best general books on scanning and scanners?

Mike


From [e-mail] Sat Oct 19 10:43:17 1996
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From: LWilson
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Subject: Re: Bill Cheek is an IDIOT was:Re: RG 59\U
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Blake Bowers writes...

> John Mackey KA0SSF <[e-mail]> wrote:>
>
> >> And what degree do you claim to have?
>
> >Master of Communications Technology.

> Issued by whom?

He has mentioned many times. Time to prove it for the Idiot Mackey.

> >> While you are at it, explain why NONE of the Two way shop owners or
> >> managers in your area know who you are, when you claim to have all
> >> sorts of experince in the field?

> >Have you ever seen my resume???

> No, and most shops in your area certainly don't seem to remember it!

I think he is a liar. Time for IMackey to post resume. He always demands
proof when other make claims. Post it IMackey.
> >Please hurry, in a few days I will be adding you to my twit
> >filter in both the fidonet & internet programs.

> I am excited!

IMackey adds people who he can't badger to kill file. Why if Cheek so
upsets him doesn't he add him?

> >So why do you want to fightagain?  You know you lose every time.

> Just got tired of your crap on USENET.  I tried to get you to respond
> to my questions on FIDO, and you refused.  So, I approached you here.

If IMackey acted on Fido like he does here he would lose access. His
Sysop agreed with Cheek when he got ScanRadio boot.

Post those Credentials and resume IMackey. Rec.Radio.Scanner waits.

Post those Credentials and resume IMackey. Rec.Radio.Scanner waits.
IMackey Watch


From [e-mail] Sat Oct 19 10:43:19 1996
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From: John Mackey KA0SSF <[e-mail]>
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LWilson wrote:

> He has mentioned many times. Time to prove it for Mackey.

No problem, I can & will prove anything I say.  But first things first.
I have asked you for your e-mail address & have been asking Bill Cheek
for 3 months to post his degree & resume info.  Once that those
two issues are completed, I'll give you anything you want.


> I think he is a liar. Time for IMackey to post resume. He always demands
> proof when other make claims. Post it IMackey.

No problem, see above.


> IMackey adds people who he can't badger to kill file. Why if Cheek so
> upsets him doesn't he add him?

Bill is a fun challenge, good entertainment.


> His
> Sysop agreed with Cheek when he got ScanRadio boot.

Yup, sure did.  I am PROUD to have been booted off of ScanRadio.
Only the asskissers remain like Blake Bowers & a few others.  Funny
how all the quality people are gone.  There used to be about 50 posts
a day to that echo with good info, now there are about 5-10 a day
including the MONTHLY posting from Roger Cravens where he posts the
same damm thing that takes up about 9 messages.


> Post those Credentials and resume IMackey. Rec.Radio.Scanner waits.
No problem, I would be more than happy to.  See response to your
first query for details .




From [e-mail] Sat Oct 19 10:43:20 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Richard Kendrick)
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John Mackey KA0SSF <[e-mail]> wrote:

>No problem, I can & will prove anything I say.  But first things first.
>I have asked you for your e-mail address & have been asking Bill Cheek
>for 3 months to post his degree & resume info.  Once that those
>two issues are completed, I'll give you anything you want.

Why does Bill have to show his information first? If you were forthright
and honest in your request for Bill to post his degree and resume
information, you would post yours first. But since you are a coward,
all your previous rantings and posturing makes sense.

>> I think he is a liar. Time for IMackey to post resume. He always demands
>> proof when other make claims. Post it IMackey.

Mackey, put up or shut up.






Richard Kendrick CET WA7TWI           |
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From [e-mail] Sat Oct 19 10:43:21 1996
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From: [e-mail]
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John..Mackey..KA0SSF wrote:
>
> Richard Kendrick wrote:
>
> > Why does Bill have to show his information first? If you were forthright
>
> I have been waiting THREE months for Bill show the very same info
> you are asking me for.  So are you meaning so say that by not showing
> this info when requested then the individual is not forthright?
>
> > and honest in your request for Bill to post his degree and resume
> > information, you would post yours first. But since you are a coward,
>
> As I said, I've been requestin Bill to post his for 3 months & these
> requests for my resume just started last week.  Bill is the coward.  He
> even asked if I would put a money wager on I & I did & he still wouldn't
> give the info.  I'll tell you what though,  I'll post a part of my
> resume
> credentials in a good faith effort & if Bill posts his complete resume &
> then I'll post the rest of mine.
>
> > all your previous rantings and posturing makes sense.
>
> You must be VERY new to this NG because you don't seem to know what is
> going on, or else you are a fool.

All this credential crap you have been slinging for months under the
guise
of "WE".  What will this do with the price of tea  in China.  Why is it
important.  You say you have a beef with Bill.  State you beef, not with
the
credentials, but what is your or "WE" as you commonly state is the real
problem.

Joseph


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From: Larry Wilson
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The Idiot Mackey excuses more.....

> I have been waiting THREE months for Bill show the very same info
> you are asking me for.

What Bill have to do with it? You made claims to others not Bill. Does
Bill control Idiot Mackey? I think maybe it only excuse IMackey have
to keep from looking BIGGERR FOOL.

> So are you meaning so say that by not showing
> this info when requested then the individual is not forthright?

You call Bill liar and fraud when he don't give it so what makes
you different?  Others than Bill ask, you refuse you must be liar by
IMackey standards.

>You must be VERY new to this NG because you don't seem to know what is
>going on, or else you are a fool.

Hasn't IMackey said he don't call names? Same old liar Imackey. Idiot Mackey
always says this when in a corner. IMackey don't dispute he is a fool though.

Many other than Cheek ask IMackey to back his claim. Where IMackey get Masters
?
Where IMackey maintain computer system. Many other than Cheek ask why you use
him
as excuse. He got nothing to do with this conversation. Say or shut up IMackey
.

Larry Wilson
Idiot Mackey dodge question counter.



From [e-mail] Sat Oct 19 10:43:23 1996
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From: [e-mail]
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John..Mackey..KA0SSF wrote:
>
> [e-mail] wrote:
>
> > All this credential crap you have been slinging for months under the
> > guise
> > of "WE".  What will this do with the price of tea  in China.  Why is it
> > important.  You say you have a beef with Bill.  State you beef, not with
>
> That **IS** my beef, his credentials which I believe to be fake or
> exagerated
> like we found with his FCC commercial license & his MENSA membership.

You always say "WE".  What does that mean.  He has three books
published.  Plus titles
are for men.  There was a day when intelligence and merit alone stood.
If all you look
at in a man is the funny initial after his name, you have a lot of
growing up and learning
to do.  I have no education, titles, or funny initials.  I am very
respected for what I do.
I don't need them.

> The
> rest of my beef is with his arragonance.

Who are you to judge who is arragonance.  You sound like a war protester
just protesting
because you have nothing better to do.  I sure somewhere you have a
bumper sticker that
reads, "Nuke the Whales."  If that is you only two points, you have made
them.  You don't
belive in Bill credentials.  Ok point taken, made and noted.  You think
he is arrogant.  Ok
you made you point, point taken made and noted.  Go on, there are other
more arrogant people
in the world that are well worth you talents than Bill.  Take on a new
challange like the
Rev. Mel Sharpton.  His arragonance outshines Bill's 100 to 1.  That is
a challange.

Joseph


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From: "John..Mackey..KA0SSF" <[e-mail]>
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[e-mail] wrote:

> All this credential crap you have been slinging for months under the
> guise
> of "WE".  What will this do with the price of tea  in China.  Why is it
> important.  You say you have a beef with Bill.  State you beef, not with

That **IS** my beef, his credentials which I believe to be fake or
exagerated
like we found with his FCC commercial license & his MENSA membership.
The
rest of my beef is with his arragonance.


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In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] wrote:

[blathering snipped]

Take on a new
> challange like the
> Rev. Mel Sharpton.  His arragonance outshines Bill's 100 to 1.  That is
> a challange.
>
> Joseph

Please tell me how you know that Sharpton is arrogant. Have you met him?

--
Michael Alexander
[e-mail]


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Michael Alexander wrote:
>
> In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] wrote:
>
> [blathering snipped]
>
> Take on a new
> > challange like the
> > Rev. Mel Sharpton.  His arragonance outshines Bill's 100 to 1.  That is
> > a challange.
> >
> > Joseph
>
> Please tell me how you know that Sharpton is arrogant. Have you met him?
>
> --
> Michael Alexander
> [e-mail]

Has Mackey ever met Bill.  As for Mel, one has to watch the news.

Joseph


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[e-mail] wrote:
>
> Michael Alexander wrote:
> >
> > In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] wrote:
> >
> > [blathering snipped]
> >
> > Take on a new
> > > challange like the
> > > Rev. Mel Sharpton.  His arragonance outshines Bill's 100 to 1.  That is
> > > a challange.
> > >
> > > Joseph
> >
> > Please tell me how you know that Sharpton is arrogant. Have you met him?
> >
> > --
> > Michael Alexander
> > [e-mail]
>
> Has Mackey ever met Bill.  As for Mel, one has to watch the news.
>
> Joseph

First,  it's AL Sharpton and I HAVE met him. Typically, it was because I
was monitoring a protest at the state capital in Albany, NY.  And when
the cameras are not turned on and he talks one-on-one with people, he's
actually quite nice.


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From: [e-mail] (Richard Kendrick)
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"John..Mackey..KA0SSF" <[e-mail]> wrote:

>[e-mail] wrote:
 [ snip ]

>That **IS** my beef, his credentials which I believe to be fake or
>exagerated like we found with his FCC commercial license & his
>MENSA membership. The rest of my beef is with his arragonance.

A previous poster had claimed to have checked with the national Mensa
office regarding whether or not Bill Cheek was a member. According to
Teresa at the national office (American Mensa, Ltd., 201 Main Street,
Suite 1101, Fort Worth, TX 76102, 817.332.2600) Bill is not a current
member. However, she was not allowed to say if he was a _lapsed_
member. From Mensa's point of view, if a person has qualified once,
he is qualified for life. The paying of dues becomes a trival matter.
Bill has never said if he was a current or lapsed member, only that
he was a member. With the above in mind, that is a truthful statement.
Anything else is conjecture.




Richard Kendrick CET WA7TWI           |
Amateur Radio Extra Class             |  Do not adjust your mind, there
QRP #4129/G-QRP #8591/MI-QRP #M-1412  |  is a fault in reality.
Mesa, AZ  email: [e-mail]  |



From [e-mail] Sat Oct 19 10:43:29 1996
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From: Charles Simmont <"Pirate@Garden"@hvs.com>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: RE: Bill Conduit
Date: Tue, 15 Oct 1996 17:52:16 -0700
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I am pretty sure my address has always been [e-mail]. If you
cant reach me that way, post openly to the news group. I am here daily.


From [e-mail] Sat Oct 19 10:43:30 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Geoff Wilson)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Boston University Police Frequencies Wanted
Date: 16 Oct 1996 22:32:49 GMT
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Could anyone pls mail me the freqs used by BUPD.  Thanks in advance.
Geoff Wilson   [e-mail]


From [e-mail] Sat Oct 19 10:43:30 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Clay Irving)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Carnival Cruise Lines info pls.
Date: 14 Oct 1996 09:09:10 -0400
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In <53s9pa$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (KEgan30306) writes:

>Looking for either freqs. or ranges to search while on a Carnival Cruise.
>Internal shipboard commuications as well as any ship, satillite, or
>ship/shore that may be in range of a BearCat 205.

Try: http://www.panix.com/~clay/scanning/frequencies/maritime.shtml

--
Clay Irving N2VKG
[e-mail]
http://www.panix.com/~clay/


From [e-mail] Sat Oct 19 10:43:31 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Ed Griffin)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Cause of  "chuffing" sound
Date: Fri, 18 Oct 1996 13:16:21 GMT
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If it happens at night, it could be the tower lights blinking on/off.
Ed

Jerry Stack <[e-mail]> wrote:

>In listening to the local L.A. Co. Sherriff's frequency, I have noticed a
>kind of "chuffing"sound on transmissions by the dispatcher. It has a
>regular rhythm. There is no similar sound coming from the mobile units.
>The frequency is in the 480 mhz range. Other transmissions in this
>spectrum don't have the strange sound.

>I've noticed this on several scanners. Anyone have an idea what causes
>this?





From [e-mail] Sat Oct 19 10:43:32 1996
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From: Andy Thornicroft <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Cause of  "chuffing" sound
Date: Fri, 18 Oct 1996 13:18:14 +0000
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Jerry Stack wrote:
>
> In listening to the local L.A. Co. Sherriff's frequency, I have noticed a
> kind of "chuffing"sound on transmissions by the dispatcher. It has a
> regular rhythm. There is no similar sound coming from the mobile units.
> The frequency is in the 480 mhz range. Other transmissions in this
> spectrum don't have the strange sound.
>
> I've noticed this on several scanners. Anyone have an idea what causes
> this?

I suspect what you are hearing is a Quasi Sync or simulcast radio
system. Several radio transmitters are used on the same frequency to
increase range. The problem is that unless they are all on exactly the
same frequency, you hear the beat note between two or more. If this is 1
or 2Hz, then it sounds like a chuffing noise.

--
Andy T


From [e-mail] Sat Oct 19 10:43:33 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Dr Pepper)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Cause of  "chuffing" sound
Date: Fri, 18 Oct 1996 19:23:58 GMT
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On Thu, 17 Oct 1996 20:11:51 -0700, Jerry Stack <[e-mail]>
wrote:

>In listening to the local L.A. Co. Sherriff's frequency, I have noticed a
>kind of "chuffing"sound on transmissions by the dispatcher. It has a
>regular rhythm. There is no similar sound coming from the mobile units.
>The frequency is in the 480 mhz range. Other transmissions in this
>spectrum don't have the strange sound.
>
>I've noticed this on several scanners. Anyone have an idea what causes
>this?
>

Sounds like repeater squelch tails to me.  It
could even be MULTIPLE squelch tails if they
are going through several cross band repeaters.
Dr Pepper
10 - 2 - 4
Good Anytime


From [e-mail] Sat Oct 19 10:43:34 1996
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From: gary sellani <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Cause of  "chuffing" sound
Date: Fri, 18 Oct 1996 19:05:24 -0700
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To: Ed Griffin <[e-mail]>

Ed Griffin wrote:
>
> If it happens at night, it could be the tower lights blinking on/off.
> Ed
>
> Jerry Stack <[e-mail]> wrote:
>
> >In listening to the local L.A. Co. Sherriff's frequency, I have noticed a
> >kind of "chuffing"sound on transmissions by the dispatcher. It has a
> >regular rhythm. There is no similar sound coming from the mobile units.
> >The frequency is in the 480 mhz range. Other transmissions in this
> >spectrum don't have the strange sound.
>
> >I've noticed this on several scanners. Anyone have an idea what causes
> >this?

The Fremont primary channel has three locations and suffers the same
problem.


From [e-mail] Sat Oct 19 10:43:35 1996
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From: Jerry Stack <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Cause of  "chuffing" sound
Date: Fri, 18 Oct 1996 17:16:42 -0700
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Andy Thornicroft wrote:
>
> Jerry Stack wrote:
> >
> > In listening to the local L.A. Co. Sherriff's frequency, I have noticed a
> > kind of "chuffing"sound on transmissions by the dispatcher. It has a
> > regular rhythm. There is no similar sound coming from the mobile units.
> > The frequency is in the 480 mhz range. Other transmissions in this
> > spectrum don't have the strange sound.
> >
> > I've noticed this on several scanners. Anyone have an idea what causes
> > this?
>
> I suspect what you are hearing is a Quasi Sync or simulcast radio
> system. Several radio transmitters are used on the same frequency to
> increase range. The problem is that unless they are all on exactly the
> same frequency, you hear the beat note between two or more. If this is 1
> or 2Hz, then it sounds like a chuffing noise.
>
> --
> Andy T


Thanks, Andy. That would explain why the mobile units dont't have the
problem, only the base units.


From [e-mail] Sat Oct 19 10:43:36 1996
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From: Bill Eitner <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner,alt.radio.scanner,rec.radio.cb,rec.radio.swap
Subject: Re: CB linear amps 4 Sale - Hypocrites
Date: Thu, 17 Oct 1996 17:47:05 -0700
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Joel S Gamble wrote:
>
> Dan wrote:
> >
> > Bill Nelson wrote:
> > >
> > > Dan ([e-mail]) wrote:
> > >
> > > : Then why do most new 800 Mhz scanners pick up cell phones by "immaging
"?
> > > : Answer that one Micky Mouse!
> > >
> > > Because the FCC has not figured out a way to ban images.
> > >
> > > Bill
> >
> > Wrong...because the public would not buy them if they didnt pick up cell
> > calls in some way. The public gets what it wants.
>   This is rediculious!!
>   Do you think 'the public' buys scanners specifically to 'eavesdrop' on
> someones (totally boring) private conversations?
>   Do you think an 800 Mhz ONLY scanner would sell?I dont!
>   I have had several devices capable of  monitoring cellular calls and
> have listened to maybe 3 or 4 before becoming tired of it.
>   If a scanner will or will not recieve cellular has absolutely nothing
> to do with my decision to buy.
>   Am I alone in that I have no interest in listening to cellular?

I think having the ability to listen to cellular, not whether
or not you choose to is the issue. This is just another example
of buisiness and government trying to dictate what the people
can and can't do. And the people involved (current and potential
scanner listeners) unconcsiously rebelling by wanting and buying
scanners that can somehow receive cellular....BILL


From [e-mail] Sat Oct 19 10:43:37 1996
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From: Steve Miller <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Cell mod for Radio Shack Pro-2036
Date: Thu, 17 Oct 1996 22:49:14 -0700
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Thanks for checking this out.

I'm looking for a modification for the Pro-2036 or Uniden BC-890XLT.
If you have a mod or know a radio mag that published one, please reply.
Thanks,  Steve
Vista, Ca




From [e-mail] Sat Oct 19 10:43:38 1996
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From: Scott Smith <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Cellular Motorola /CarKit for old large Handhleld cellphone FOR SALE
Date: Wed, 09 Oct 1996 07:37:14 -0400
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For the original Motorola hand held cellphones. Probably could be converted to
 newer models.
New in the box never used. All packing/accesories/etc. Mounts handleld in car.
Was $500 when new. I'll accept any reasonable/best offer. How about $100???
N2CQQ Scott
[e-mail]


From [e-mail] Sat Oct 19 10:43:39 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Filipe M.P. Vieira)
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Subject: Check it out!!! Turn your computer into a scanner!!
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http://www.durhamradio.ca/winradio.htm

I would like to hear some opinions about this kind of scanner!
No computer RF problems?
_____________________________________________________________________
Filipe M.P. Vieira                               [e-mail]


From [e-mail] Sat Oct 19 10:43:40 1996
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From: [e-mail] (SCSchill)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Chicago Marathon
Date: 18 Oct 1996 21:09:12 -0400
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Anyone know what frequencies will be used for the Chicago Marathon.  I'm
interested in receiving Marshal's reports and leader updates.

Thanks
[e-mail]
Steve Schilling


From [e-mail] Sat Oct 19 10:43:40 1996
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From: [e-mail] (PVBoy33)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: CHP San Diego base freq?  It isn't Orange-B any more
Date: 14 Oct 1996 06:02:32 -0400
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Jamie Hanrahan, Kernel Mode Systems ([e-mail]) wrote:
: According to _Monitor America_, the CHP has acquired some 39 MHz freqs
: formerly used by the California State Police, and one of these (39.40)
: is quite active in the San Diego area.  At first I thought this was
: the new San Diego base, but it is apparently only for dipatching
: freeway assistance to motorists and similar non-law-enforcement stuff;
: the traffic is not related to what I hear on 42.66 and furthermore
: 39.40 is *simplex*.

Actually what you are hearing is the CHP dispatch for the Freeway Service
Patrol.

[e-mail]


From [e-mail] Sat Oct 19 10:43:41 1996
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From: Earl Grad <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: CHP San Diego base freq?  It isn't Orange-B any more
Date: Thu, 17 Oct 1996 09:59:38 -0700
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Jamie Hanrahan, Kernel Mode Systems wrote:
>
> In article <53t33o$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (PVBoy33) wri
tes:
> > Jamie Hanrahan, Kernel Mode Systems ([e-mail]) wrote:
> > : According to _Monitor America_, the CHP has acquired some 39 MHz freqs
> > : formerly used by the California State Police, and one of these (39.40)
> > : is quite active in the San Diego area.  At first I thought this was
> > : the new San Diego base, but it is apparently only for dipatching
> > : freeway assistance to motorists and similar non-law-enforcement stuff;
> > : the traffic is not related to what I hear on 42.66 and furthermore
> > : 39.40 is *simplex*.
> >
> > Actually what you are hearing is the CHP dispatch for the Freeway Service
> > Patrol.
>
> Someone else claimed otherwise, but that does make sense for what I'm
> hearing.
>
> So, where is the actual base freq that corresponds to 42.66 M in San
> Diego?
>
>         --- Jamie Hanrahan, Kernel Mode Systems, San Diego CA
>         Internet: [e-mail] (JH645)  CompuServe: 74140,2055
In San Diego, the CHP is now on a repeaterized system.  The area that
had Orange is now on Orange-1 39.40 , Gold is now on Gold-1 39.60, Tan
is now on Tan-1 39.80.  The inputs are still on the same frequencies,
just new CTCSS codes.  FSP for San Diego is on 937.350 Mhz sharing with
other business band users.  I have been monitoring ever since they
switched over.

73s
Earl    KA7WFU
        San Diego, CA


From [e-mail] Sat Oct 19 10:43:43 1996
From: [e-mail] (Jonathan Clough)
Subject: Re: COMMTEL215 mods
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Date: Wed, 16 Oct 96 12:59:06 GMT
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In article <[e-mail]>
           [e-mail]
           "<[e-mail]>" writes:

Hi,

> I'm looking for some COMMTEL215-modifications
> The commtel 215 looks like a UNIDEN-UBC serie-model
> Can anyone help me?

The Commtel 215 is the same receiver as the Uniden Bearcat 890XLT. It is
also the same (for the sake of argument) as the PRO-2036 from Realistic.

The only frequency modification you can probbaly do is give it the 29-54MHz
coverage that was on the BC-890XLT rather than the 66-88MHz for the European
models.

I haven't seen any references to other modifications although you will quite
often see threads relating to the 890XLT and PRO-2036 so keep an eye open
for those.

Hope this helps.


--
Cheers,
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Subject: Re: Computer Interference
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HH357 wrote:

> I've spent 20+ years in computers, and there is absolutely nothing wrong
> with Bills analysis here.
> Maybe his "computer isn't not good enough" is a little opinionated

So what's your point??



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From: [e-mail] (HH357)
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In article <[e-mail]>, John Mackey KA0SSF
<[e-mail]> writes:

>
>> I've spent 20+ years in computers, and there is absolutely nothing
wrong
>> with Bills analysis here.
>> Maybe his "computer isn't not good enough" is a little opinionated
>
>So what's your point??

The point was that YOUR complaint was bogus.   What he said was correct!


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[e-mail] (HH357) wrote:

>Mr. Mackey ,  You're full of it.

Gawd.....I've got him on my killfile list.  Is he responding to this thread,
too?  Sheesh.........   :-)

>I've spent 20+ years in computers, and there is absolutely nothing wrong
>with Bills analysis here.
>Maybe his "computer isn't not good enough" is a little opinionated,

I didn't mean that the way it sounds all by itself.  Randy referred to "his
computer" causing interference.  Saying THAT little bit is what I meant by
not being "good enough".  There are many constituent components of a
computer, such that it was like saying, "My car's broke."  That's not good
enough.

Bill Cheek
Scannist Extraordinaire
Computer Systems Engineer



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From: [e-mail](George L. Vetterle)
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In <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Bill Cheek) writes:
bunch of stuff deleted...

>I didn't mean that the way it sounds all by itself.  Randy referred to
"his
>computer" causing interference.  Saying THAT little bit is what I
meant by
>not being "good enough".  There are many constituent components of a
>computer, such that it was like saying, "My car's broke."  That's not
good
>enough.
>
>Bill Cheek
>Scannist Extraordinaire
>Computer Systems Engineer
>
It's been my experience that the newer PCs are pretty clean.  I've seen
more problems with other devices interfering with computers,
particularly the monitor, than vice versa.  An easy way to check your
PC for leaking RFI is to use a portable AM radio like a walkman with
earphones.  Tune the dial to a lower frequency away from any strong
stations and move the radio around the different components of the
computer as it's working.  You can thusly isolate any offending
components.

George L. Vetterle
[e-mail]
Reformed Provocateur and Occasional Poster of Useful Information
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From: [e-mail] (Jerry)
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Date: Sun, 13 Oct 1996 00:45:36 GMT
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On Tue, 08 Oct 1996 06:07:22 GMT, [e-mail] (harryg) wrote:

>On 6 Oct 1996 17:34:38 GMT, [e-mail] (Mike Staples)
>wrote:
>>I'd like to get suggestions for a good 'secure' cordless phone.
>>Just being digital would probably be good enough for my use but
>>if there are affordable units out there that actually encrypt, I
>>would be interested in those as well.  Actual model and features
>>to look for is what I'm interested in.  I just bought a GE 900 Mhz
>>that claimed security but my 2006 disagrees, it's just a 900 Mhz
>>analog unit.
>
>I don't know what level of security you're looking for but Motorola
>makes a small flip-style 10 and 25 channel (regular ~46mhz) models
>that 'invert' your speech.  If you listen to it with a scanner or
>another cordless you can't make-out the words (believe me I tried).
>This should keep away the average evesdropper.   I bought the 25
>channel model (2125) at Sears for around $100 and I've also seen them
>at Office Depot.


Just for general info, there is a way to decypher this besides buying
a decoder.  Just take the IF output from a receiver (scanner or
whatever) and input this to an HF receiver and tune in the IF freq
(455Khz or 10.7Mhz or whatever) and set to USB and use the passband or
fine tuning or main tuning and there you have it.  I have done this
with a local Taxi company that uses freq inversion
encryption/scrambling.  It is not the clearest, but you are able to
understand it.

Jerry

Lineage = 18Q9116 / KAVN9927
Mine = KBMD9044

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Version: 2.6.2

mQCNAy/+7gcAAAEEANJOJGMc/kWwJ08pj+d+1JuvIkAUvPko/jIuAY4/NRRZWI2h
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I seem to have lost my silly little list of cordless phone frequencys
and Biny ereased them from my scanner.  Please repost the list.


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tansp wrote:
>
> I seem to have lost my silly little list of cordless phone frequencys
> and Biny ereased them from my scanner.  Please repost the list.

Cordless Telephone

       Channel    Base     Handset

         1       43.72     48.76
         2       43.74     48.84
         3       43.82     48.86
         4       43.84     48.92
         5       43.92     49.02              Ch 5 Handset was in
         6       43.96     49.08              error in the original
         7       44.12     49.10              FCC notice.
         8       44.16     49.16
         9       44.18     49.20
        10       44.20     49.24
        11       44.32     49.28
        12       44.36     49.36
        13       44.40     49.40
        14       44.46     49.46
        15       44.48     49.50
       ---------------------------
        16       46.61     49.67
        17  B    46.63     49.845             Chs A - E handset
        18  C    46.67     49.86              frequencies are also
        19       46.71     49.77              used for baby room
        20  D    46.73     49.875             monitors and low power
        21  A    46.77     49.83              handie-talkies
        22  E    46.83     49.89
        23       46.87     49.93
        24       46.93     49.99
        25       46.97     49.97

        Effective 05 June 95, an additional 15 channels are
    authorized and the original 10 channels are renumbered 16-25.


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From: [e-mail] (Sherrod Munday)
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tansp <[e-mail]> wrote:

>I seem to have lost my silly little list of cordless phone frequencys
>and Biny ereased them from my scanner.  Please repost the list.


There are now an additional 15 channels, which I do not know off-hand,
but here's what I do have:  Hope this helps.

FREQUENCY       LOCATION       TYPE      SERVICE
 46.6100        NATIONWIDE     BUSINESS  CORDLESS PHONE CH.1 -BASE
 46.6300        NATIONWIDE     BUSINESS  CORDLESS PHONE CH.2 -BASE
 46.6700        NATIONWIDE     BUSINESS  CORDLESS PHONE CH.3 -BASE
 46.7100        NATIONWIDE     BUSINESS  CORDLESS PHONE CH.4 -BASE
 46.7300        NATIONWIDE     BUSINESS  CORDLESS PHONE CH.5 -BASE
 46.7700        NATIONWIDE     BUSINESS  CORDLESS PHONE CH.6 -BASE
 46.8300        NATIONWIDE     BUSINESS  CORDLESS PHONE CH.7 -BASE
 46.8700        NATIONWIDE     BUSINESS  CORDLESS PHONE CH.8 -BASE
 46.9300        NATIONWIDE     BUSINESS  CORDLESS PHONE CH.9 -BASE
 46.9700        NATIONWIDE     BUSINESS  CORDLESS PHONE CH.10 -BASE
 49.6700        NATIONWIDE     BUSINESS  CORDLESS PHONE CH.1 -HANDSET
 49.7700        NATIONWIDE     BUSINESS  CORDLESS PHONE CH.4 -HANDSET
 49.8300        NATIONWIDE     BUSINESS  CORDLESS PHONE CH.6 -HANDSET
 49.8450        NATIONWIDE     BUSINESS  CORDLESS PHONE CH.2 -HANDSET
 49.8600        NATIONWIDE     BUSINESS  CORDLESS PHONE CH.3 -HANDSET
 49.8750        NATIONWIDE     BUSINESS  CORDLESS PHONE CH.5 -HANDSET
 49.8900        NATIONWIDE     BUSINESS  CORDLESS PHONE CH.7 -HANDSET
 49.9300        NATIONWIDE     BUSINESS  CORDLESS PHONE CH.8 -HANDSET
 49.9700        NATIONWIDE     BUSINESS  CORDLESS PHONE CH.10 -HANDSET
 49.9900        NATIONWIDE     BUSINESS  CORDLESS PHONE CH.9 -HANDSET

Sherrod





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From: [e-mail] (Tim Moore)
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In article <541q14$[e-mail]>, From
[e-mail] (D Stark), the following was written:
> This is not correct.  Cordless phones are not legal to
> monitor in the USA.  Check this page for details:


Oh, please - not another lawyer yapping about whats legal and what
isn't. Go help convict O.J.

--
Tim Moore [e-mail]
10/17/96 18:07
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Fredericksburg, VA




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From: [e-mail] (PKHARTLEY)
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Subject: Re: cordless phone monitoring
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In article <[e-mail]>,
[e-mail] (Tim Moore) writes:

>> This is not correct.  Cordless phones are not legal to
>> monitor in the USA.  Check this page for details:
>
>
>Oh, please - not another lawyer yapping about whats legal and what
>isn't. Go help convict O.J.
>
>--
>Tim Moore [e-mail]
>10/17/96 18:07
>Transmitting LIVE from
>Fredericksburg, VA
>
>

You don't have to be a lawyer to figure out that it is now illegal to
monitor cordless phones!

Yes, the law is:
1) Stupid
2) Virtually impossible to enforce
3) Broken frequently

It is still the law. You should understand this and make your own
decisions about your actions. If you want to blow it off because of 1, 2,
or 3 above, that is your choice. It is still illegal.


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From: [e-mail] (Dr Pepper)
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On Tue, 15 Oct 1996 11:57:05 -0700, Mike Drucker <[e-mail]>
wrote:

>Glenn Hansen wrote:
>>
>> The last two months I have been experiencing a weird thing with my cordless
 phone. Every night
>> between 12:40 and 12:55 am my cordless phone will ring once. Sometimes it a
lmost seems like
>> half of a ring. None of the other 3 phones in the house ring and of course
caller ID is not activated.
>> Any ideas what could be going on?
>>
>> Glenn
>Glenn,
>
>It sounds like some sort of signal leakage from someone else's
>cordless.  I sometimes hear sounds during a conversation that are of
>that nature...sometime's I'lleven hear conversations (until I switch
>channels).
>
>What the precise nature of the leaked signal is in your case, I don't
>know.
>
>Ken

My guess (and that's all it is) Is, that the phone company is
checking the lines. When they do this, (usually in the wee hours),
some times there is leakage to your ringer and you will hear a 1/2
ring.

I suggest that you try putting a paper sack over the cordless
phone, as it seems to be the only one that rings, so that the dirt
in the phone lines won't get all the place when they blow out the
lines.

Have a good day  :-^}

Dr Pepper
10 - 2 - 4
Good Anytime


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From: [e-mail] (Blue dot 9)
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Subject: Re: Cordless Phone Weirdness
Date: 15 Oct 1996 15:00:28 -0400
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It's someone elses phone.  Maybe a guy is calling his girlfriend, or
husband calling wife from work.

You probably live in an area where someone else has a phone just like
yours, or someone whose phone gives a similar data burst (it tells the
mobile unit to 'ring').

I have seen this happen on the older, cheaper AT&T (800 model?) phones
which have only a couple of channels available.

To fix this press *channel* (if yours has a channel button).  If this does
not solve your problem, then remove the power cord from the base of the
phone for about one minute and plug back in.  Some newer phones reset the
'seed' channel when reset.

Do you receive many cordless calls on your scanner in your particular
area?

Dave
(Scanner Flatulaire)

It would be interesting to see what would happen if someone boosted the
data burst to cover, oh..let's say, about a mile radius...would a lot of
phones ring?

In article <01bbba4a$427daf60$[e-mail]>, "Glenn
Hansen" <[e-mail]> writes:

>The last two months I have been experiencing a weird thing with my =
>cordless phone. Every night
>between 12:40 and 12:55 am my cordless phone will ring once. Sometimes =
>it almost seems like
>half of a ring. None of the other 3 phones in the house ring and of =
>course caller ID is not activated.
>Any ideas what could be going on?=20
>
>
>Glenn
>
>



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From: [e-mail] (David M Schertzer)
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Subject: Re: Cordless Phone Weirdness
Date: 15 Oct 1996 12:51:30 GMT
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I had a similar prob with an old phone and
wuz a dead battery...It rang more frequently not
btwn a certain time frame..I  know u check the batt,right?


Oak Harbor, WA   USA
Ham Radio - VE7-LFA/W7
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From: [e-mail] (Richard Fitzgerald)
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In article [e-mail], "Glenn Hansen" <[e-mail]
t.net> writes:
>The last two months I have been experiencing a weird thing with my =
>cordless phone. Every night
>between 12:40 and 12:55 am my cordless phone will ring once. Sometimes =
>it almost seems like
>half of a ring. None of the other 3 phones in the house ring and of =
>course caller ID is not activated.
>Any ideas what could be going on?=20
>
>
>Glenn

Most likely what you are seeing (hearing) is the periodic automated line test
performed by your local telephone company.  During the early morning timethey
 will send a signal down your phone line to measure the impedance of the line.
If everything is within a certain value nothing is recorded.  If the measurmen
t
is out of range, a trouble ticket is generated.  Generally, this pulse is not
enough to activate the ringer on your phone, however they may be sending a
measurment signal at a level that your cordless phone will detect it as a ring
signal and "rings" your phone.  I had the same problem, except they would ring

our regular phone.  I called in a trouble report, but they denied that their
test would "ring" a phone.  Funny thing, I din't have any more late night
phone ringing sessions.

Richard Fitzgerald





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From: [e-mail] (Doug Mason)
Subject: Re: Cordless Phone Weirdness
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In article <01bbba4a$427daf60$[e-mail]>,
Glenn Hansen <[e-mail]> wrote:

>The last two months I have been experiencing a weird thing with my =
>cordless phone. Every night
>between 12:40 and 12:55 am my cordless phone will ring once. Sometimes =
>it almost seems like
>half of a ring. None of the other 3 phones in the house ring and of =
>course caller ID is not activated.
>Any ideas what could be going on?=20

I thought I was going crazy at one point.  When I lived in Portola Valley
my Sony cordless would ring almost to the minute at 12:00am every night.
I suspected that one of the neighbors had a cordless and had a regular
caller and my phone would pick up the ring transmission for just a second
then realize that it was for a different phone.

...then I bought another cordless phone and the same thing happened.

...then I moved to Redwood City, and the same thing started happening,
but at 10:30pm!

Everyone thought I had gone crazy!


--Doug

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Doug Mason ([e-mail]) wrote:

: I thought I was going crazy at one point.  When I lived in Portola Valley
: my Sony cordless would ring almost to the minute at 12:00am every night.
: I suspected that one of the neighbors had a cordless and had a regular
: caller and my phone would pick up the ring transmission for just a second
: then realize that it was for a different phone.


Mine rings for a second or so every now and then, and I assume that my
phone is getting temporarily confused by the signal from a neighbor's.
I've learned not to answer it until I hear the "land-line" phone ring.


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[e-mail] (Jerry) wrote:


>>I'm curious whether this is happening just to me or is a wider spread
>>problem? /Bert
>>
>>Bert Burland aka N5TOA / From The Texas Panhandle
>>EMail-([e-mail]) Fido-NetMail-(Sysop@1:3825/24)


It is a widestpead problem. They owe me money for articles I wrote.
 I also got a few nasty letters from them and then they contacted my
employer to let him now what a scum I am.......
Nice people indeed,

Bob




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From: [e-mail] (Curt Phillips)
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[e-mail] (Jerry) wrote:
>On Tue, 08 Oct 1996 22:51:40 GMT, [e-mail] (Bert) wrote:
>>Are there other former CB_Radio subscribers here?  If so are you too
>>having trouble getting CQ Communications to honer their subscription
>>agreement.  CB_Radio went out of production, but the remainder of the
>>subscription was to be fulfilled with the magazine "Popular
>>Communications".
>>
>>I received a notice from CQ Communications saying my subscription
>>would expire with the December-96 issue, this even though my
>>subscription started with the April-96 issue, even though CB_Radio was
>>not even in production in December-95 or even January-96.
[snip]
>>I'm curious whether this is happening just to me or is a wider spread
>>problem? /Bert
[snip]
>Wayne Greene is bankrupt, standby to loose money to help defer his
>losses.  Only in america !
>Jerry

  Wayne Greene is the Editor/Publisher of 73 Magazine, and has not been
affliated with CQ Publications since the late 1950s, when he was fired by
them.  Whether or not it was his fault is a matter of dispute (he says
not).

  Greene's publications are in trouble, CQ has some publications in
trouble, RCMA is either dead or in a deep coma, US Scanner News is AWOL and
Grove is saying in MONITORING TIMES that his business (both hardware and
publishing) has been off a lot over the past year...  where is this great
economy that they're telling us about?

============ Opinions expressed are solely those of the author ============
Curt Phillips CEM KD4YU (ex-WB4LHI)|   Motto of the
Engineer/Writer/Gadgeteer/Raconteur|   Tarheel Scanner/SWL Group:
Chairman, Tarheel Scanner/SWL Group| #2) The more they don't want you to
ARRL Life; QCWA; Raleigh ARS; NRA /listen, the more interesting it must be.

==== [e-mail] ======= [Copyright 1996 All rights reserved]======



From [e-mail] Sat Oct 19 10:44:03 1996
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From: "Thomas R. Sundstrom" <[e-mail]>
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Curt Phillips wrote:

>   Greene's publications are in trouble, CQ has some publications in
> trouble, RCMA is either dead or in a deep coma, US Scanner News is AWOL and
> Grove is saying in MONITORING TIMES that his business (both hardware and
> publishing) has been off a lot over the past year...  where is this great
> economy that they're telling us about?

I think it has more to do with the bottom of the sunspot cycle and the
distraction of the Internet's offerings. The largest segment of SW
radios  being sold nowadays are the nominal $200-$250 portables. With
these receivers I think some would-be listeners are discouraged by not
being able to hear all the second- and third-level signals from remote
parts of the world.

Tom
--

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From [e-mail] Sat Oct 19 10:44:04 1996
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From: [e-mail] (johanne paquin)
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Past two years it was their 50 anniversary,on sw if you have describe 50
stations,you were supposed to have a special attestation(do some remember?)
Well I never receive-it and have fax and phone no reply it is frustating
when you sat on a chair listening for callsings loose signal and ave to
restart again.
aLSO ONE DAY i SEND AND ADD FOR POP.COM. this add was placed in
servicing and tech. It takes me lot of calls and faxes to have my money
back,
ANY OTHERS WITH THE FABULUS CQ CONTEST?????????
VO2APL


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From: [e-mail](BAYCITVIDGRP)
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In <[e-mail]> John Mackey KA0SSF
<[e-mail]> writes:
>
>
>
>
>heheehehehehehe
>
>
     to the Idiot of Mackey:  I wonder what his family coat of arms
                               says about this delusion of grandeur

     to the Idiot of Mackey:  you have a limited reach....
                               descending.

    GET IT.

    bill conduit


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BILL WATTS wrote:

> My daughter is headed for the San Diego Law Library to research
> the laws on slander.


heheehehehehehe




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From: John Mackey KA0SSF <[e-mail]>
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LWilson wrote:

> Same thing you told Cheek. You post you maintain a system so prove it.
> What is system name? If you can't give name then you are liar Idiot
> Mackey. What is system name to check your Credentials?

What the hell are you talking about???  You need to give me more than
that.  What kind of a "system" are you talking about that I
"told Cheek" about??  Please qoute, you are being VERY vague.

BTW - Who are you, what is your e-mail address, where are you?
4th request.



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From: [e-mail] (Blake Bowers)
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John Mackey KA0SSF <[e-mail]> wrote:

>Thanks for checking Mensa out.  Much appreciated.  I know Bill is
>lying about his FCC license too because the FCC told me on the phone
>that they have NO currently valid license on record for a
>Bill or William Cheek in California.  The license he CLAIMS to

Uh, John, who at the FCC said this?  They have never in the past been
this forthcoming over the telephone before.


Name and phone number please?  I should like to verify.  I will be
more than happy to post the results either way.



BTW, did you know that Motorola Technical training will do the same
for Motorola Dealers?  If a dealer has a job applicant claiming
Motorla Technical Training, they will verify.

Want to send me your resume?




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Eric Oyen wrote:
> I wouldn't laugh if I were you. there maybe sufficient grounds for such
> in the court system here in the U.S.

Right.  The Courts are really going to go after someone who said
something on the internet after he was provoked by lews comments
like that guy made.

Hell, first of all there is not a trace of any evidence on this
common anarchy usually called the internet.

Second, if the US courts couldn't get OJ simpson with as much as was
happening there how the hell could they do this?




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John Mackey KA0SSF wrote:
>
> BILL WATTS wrote:
>
> > My daughter is headed for the San Diego Law Library to research
> > the laws on slander.
>
> heheehehehehehe

John,
I wouldn't laugh if I were you. there maybe sufficient grounds for such
in the court system here in the U.S. You might want to ask Phil Kane
about it...


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From: [e-mail] (BILL WATTS)
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-=> Quoting Baycitvidgrp to All <=-

 Ba>  #FROM   :[e-mail]
 >>
 >>Right.  The Courts are really going to go after someone who said
 >>something on the internet after he was provoked by lews comments
 >>like that guy made.
 >>
 >>Hell, first of all there is not a trace of any evidence on this
 >>common anarchy usually called the internet.
 >>
 >>Second, if the US courts couldn't get OJ simpson with as much as was
 >>happening there how the hell could they do this?
 >>
 Ba> People...get real.

 Ba> did someone call his daughter a bad name, inferring social
 Ba> put down or more...?

 Ba> That person can say his daughter all he/she wants.

 Ba> It's generic and it signifies nothing specific....

 Ba> Libel or Slander arises when his daughter is identified
 Ba> by her given name on her Birth Certificate and Social
 Ba> Security Account.  You have to slander her by name and
 Ba> be sure that no one else in his family is called by that
 Ba> name....the accusation has to be "name-Specific"....

 Ba> You have to insult her credence in some way by what you
 Ba> say to the world identifying her by NAME.  She has to be
 Ba> Specificly affronted to the nth degree so much so that she
 Ba> is laughed at and ridiculed and scoffed in public because
 Ba> of this libel or slander.

 Ba> bill

Please quote some references for your statements.
Read California Civil Codes Sections 45, 45a and 46
and the references included in Deering's California
Codes. No name is needed - just a reference that will
enable anyone to identify her - such as "your daughter."
I only have one daughter.  A remark (impugning someone's
chastity) that is spread by oral, mechanical or any other
means is slander. A remark that doesn't require interpretation
is Prima Facie evidence of libel and doesn't require any
laughing, ridiculing, etc. for a finding of guilty.
We haven't read the Federal laws yet, so I can't expound
on them.
If Mackey is reading this, a simple and sincere apology
will go a long way at this point and save a lot of time
and trouble for all involved.

... Bill Watts  ex-Cape Codder  [e-mail]


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From: "John..Mackey..KA0SSF" <[e-mail]>
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Patrick D. Lukens wrote:

> of justice in their favor, even only a wee tiny bit....  I think there is
> enough evidence to show that John Mackey wrote such comments....  Unless
> Mackey can prove a forgery....

Really, how does that get proven?


> >  >>Second, if the US courts couldn't get OJ simpson with as much as was
> >  >>happening there how the hell could they do this?
>
> Civil and criminal courts are different systems...  Besides, OJ had the
> better lawyers...

Hmmm, my siser is an EXCELLENT attorney.  :)


> > If Mackey is reading this, a simple and sincere apology
> > will go a long way at this point and save a lot of time
> > and trouble for all involved.



> Looks like someone has done some legal research.  Probably more than
> Mackey has done.....

My sister tells me not to worry.  :)


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John..Mackey..KA0SSF wrote:
>
> Patrick D. Lukens wrote:
>
> > of justice in their favor, even only a wee tiny bit....  I think there is
> > enough evidence to show that John Mackey wrote such comments....  Unless
> > Mackey can prove a forgery....
>
> Really, how does that get proven?
>
>
> > >  >>Second, if the US courts couldn't get OJ simpson with as much as was
> > >  >>happening there how the hell could they do this?
> >
> > Civil and criminal courts are different systems...  Besides, OJ had the
> > better lawyers...
>
> Hmmm, my siser is an EXCELLENT attorney.  :)
>
>
> > > If Mackey is reading this, a simple and sincere apology
> > > will go a long way at this point and save a lot of time
> > > and trouble for all involved.
>
> > Looks like someone has done some legal research.  Probably more than
> > Mackey has done.....
>
> My sister tells me not to worry.  :)

For one who complains about arragonance, you are pretty damn arrogant
yourself.

Joseph.


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From: [e-mail] (George Vetterle)
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"John..Mackey..KA0SSF" <[e-mail]> wrote:

>Patrick D. Lukens wrote:

>> of justice in their favor, even only a wee tiny bit....  I think there is
>> enough evidence to show that John Mackey wrote such comments....  Unless
>> Mackey can prove a forgery....

>Really, how does that get proven?

>
>> >  >>Second, if the US courts couldn't get OJ simpson with as much as was
>> >  >>happening there how the hell could they do this?
>>
>> Civil and criminal courts are different systems...  Besides, OJ had the
>> better lawyers...

>Hmmm, my siser is an EXCELLENT attorney.  :)

>
>> > If Mackey is reading this, a simple and sincere apology
>> > will go a long way at this point and save a lot of time
>> > and trouble for all involved.



>> Looks like someone has done some legal research.  Probably more than
>> Mackey has done.....

>My sister tells me not to worry.  :)

Maybe your sister doesn't like you John :)  Seriously though, I think
that Bill Watts is pretty much right on with his understanding of the
law.  If he's willing to settle for an apology from you, it might be a
prudent move on your part to give him one.  The women and children
should be considred noncombatants unless they are shooting at you too.
I think your comment was a little out of line, be a man and say you're
sorry.


--
George Vetterle
[e-mail]

"I don't mind if you don't like my manners.  I don't like them myself.
They're pretty bad.  I grieve over them on long winter evenings."-Phillip
Marlowe, THE BIG SLEEP (WB, 1946)




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From: "John..Mackey..KA0SSF" <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Credentials
Date: Wed, 16 Oct 1996 12:52:58 -0700
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Patrick D. Lukens wrote:


> > Really, how does that get proven?
>
> It doesn't have to be.  Even if you are entirely in the right, you could
> spend thousands defending yourself.

That means that someone would have to spend thounsands harassing me
also.


> But would she defend you for FREE?  If she's that good, she must make
> MONEY at it.  Even if you were sued and won, it'd cost you unless your
> sister was really generous with family members.

Yes she would defend me for free, isn't she a GREAT sister!!


From [e-mail] Sat Oct 19 10:44:15 1996
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From: John Mackey KA0SSF <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner,alt.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Credentials: Don't you think this has gone far enough?????
Date: Sat, 12 Oct 1996 19:42:39 -0700
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tyler wrote:

> If we were on a playground somewhere, I'd beat you up, but we're not, so I

Do you spend a lot of time on playgrounds?  Beat me up!!!???!!  heheehhe
You
better pack your lunch & bring a friend.

> can't do anything to you.  You don't have an address.  All you do is bitch a
nd
 I do so have an address, you have never asked for it:

PO Box 1586, Beaverton, Oregon  97075-1586


> moan.  You give ham radio a bad name.  I'd expect more from a 31 year old.
Do

Given the crap you just put out I would have expected more from a 10 yr
old.


> you ever contribute to the scanner newsgroup, or are you just here to get it

Then you don't read this NG much.  Look at the input I did on COAX for
example.



From [e-mail] Sat Oct 19 10:44:16 1996
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From: [e-mail] (tyler)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner,alt.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Credentials: Don't you think this has gone far enough?????
Date: 12 Oct 1996 12:49:20 GMT
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In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] says...
>
>tyler wrote:
>> WHO GIVES A SHIT!?!?!?!  KNOCK IT THE FUCK OFF!!!!!!!!
>
>
>Watch your language.
>
>
If we were on a playground somewhere, I'd beat you up, but we're not, so I
can't do anything to you.  You don't have an address.  All you do is bitch and

moan.  You give ham radio a bad name.  I'd expect more from a 31 year old.  Do

you ever contribute to the scanner newsgroup, or are you just here to get it
on with Cheek?  What's your problem?



From [e-mail] Sat Oct 19 10:44:17 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Evan Platt)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner,alt.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Credentials: Don't you think this has gone far enough?????
Date: Sun, 13 Oct 1996 06:34:10 GMT
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But he does have an e-mail address:
(From one of his msgs.. Unimportant lines clipped)
From: John Mackey KA0SSF <[e-mail]> <- Easy to change
Organization: myself <- Easy to change too
Message-ID: <[e-mail]> <- harder to change..
Reply-To: [e-mail] <- easy to change.
NNTP-Posting-Host: ts1-28.pdx.cyberhighway.net <- Hard to change. He's
on cyberhighway.net.


[e-mail] (tyler) wrote:
>If we were on a playground somewhere, I'd beat you up, but we're not, so I
>can't do anything to you.  You don't have an address.  All you do is bitch an
d
>moan.  You give ham radio a bad name.  I'd expect more from a 31 year old.  D
o
>you ever contribute to the scanner newsgroup, or are you just here to get it
>on with Cheek?  What's your problem?


From [e-mail] Sat Oct 19 10:44:18 1996
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From: Eric Oyen <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: Credentials: Don't you think this has gone far enough?????
Date: Tue, 15 Oct 1996 23:56:36 -0700
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John..Mackey..KA0SSF wrote:
>
> Evan Platt wrote:
>
> > NNTP-Posting-Host: ts1-28.pdx.cyberhighway.net <- Hard to change. He's
> > on cyberhighway.net.
>
> Umm, yea, sorta.  BUT, I change news servers frequently.  Like today I
> am on a different one from cyberhighway.
Why? Are you trying to hide, John, Alias Johnny, Alias JACK!


From [e-mail] Sat Oct 19 10:44:19 1996
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From: Charles Simmont <"Pirate@Garden"@hvs.com>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Crystal scanner?????
Date: Mon, 14 Oct 1996 15:26:09 -0700
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I am looking for an old style crystal scanner with 8-20 available
channels. Condition is not important as long as it works, not looking for
anything elaborate, just the basic. Thanks....


From [e-mail] Sat Oct 19 10:44:20 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Orca)
Subject: Re: CTCSS or "tone" boards
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Steve S ([e-mail]) wrote:
: In <[e-mail]> Jerry Gault <[e-mail]>
: writes:
: >       Can someone explain CTCSS to me, if a scanner can be equipped
: >with one, what changes will be seen?
:
: For the two posters who wanted to know about CTCSS tone boards and
: their utility, here's a quick summary:

: When the FCC assigns a common radio channel to two or more
: organizations, they most likely would desire to hear only units from
: their own organization and not the other(s).  When they buy an LMR
: (land mobile radio) system, they will be assigned separate "PLs" or
: Private Line [trademark of Motorola] tones. These are sub-audible tones
: that are transmitted along with mic audio.  When like units "hear"
: their PL, they open squelch to pass audio.  When a unit from the other
: organization keys up, the dissimilar PL causes the audio to remain
: squelched.  If you accidently key your radio while the other
: organization is on the air, you normally get a warning tone telling you
: to wait. Some LMRs have a BUSY light for this function.  The Continuous
: Tone Coded Squelch System (CTCSS) does not provide ANY encryption or
: privacy.  Scanner listeners can hear all conversations.  If you have a

It does keep you from hearing all the other traffic on the frequency, so
in that sense it does afford some 'privacy' by filtering out uneccessary
chatter.

If you can carry a tune, you can hum at the right frequency and open the
squelch.  :)

: scanner with a tone board, you can filter out different organizations
: on the same channel.  In my case, I like CTCSS for GMRS (General Mobile
: Radio System) in the 462.55 to 462.725 band.  When the local high
: school coach uses 462.575 for field-to-booth comms, I can filter him
: out and listen for only a special coded transmission from other GMRS
: users using 123.0 Hz CTCSS.

: Sorry for the dissertation (I get carried away sometimes)

: Steve S.
: KAF8111


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From [e-mail] Sat Oct 19 10:44:21 1996
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From: Jerry Gault <[e-mail]>
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Subject: CTCSS, What is it?
Date: Wed, 16 Oct 1996 16:03:28 -0400
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Hello:

       Can someone explain CTCSS to me, if a scanner can be equipped
with one, what changes will be seen?

Thanks for any help.

Jerry


From [e-mail] Sat Oct 19 10:44:22 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Steve Kennedy)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: CTCSS, What is it?
Date: Thu, 17 Oct 1996 19:53:13 GMT
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Jerry Gault <[e-mail]> wrote:

>Hello:

>       Can someone explain CTCSS to me, if a scanner can be equipped
>with one, what changes will be seen?

>Thanks for any help.

>Jerry

CTCSS is a standard Tone-Coded Squelch System that uses sub-audible
tones to open the squelch instead of just the presence of an RF
carrier.  Motorola called theirs PL (Private Line) , GE called theirs
CG (Channel Guard), I think RCA called theirs QC (Quiet Channel), and
their are other "brand" names for the same thing.

Most people just call it "PL" or "sub-audible".  This allows you to
listen to a busy channel, but only hear transmissions that contain the
appropriate tone (there are 32 to 48 "standard" tones, most below
250Hz).  When it is turned off, you hear everything as normal.

Steve



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From: [e-mail](Steve S)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Curtis-Mathis electronics (was:  Radio Shack salesman plays DUMB !)
Date: 18 Oct 1996 21:24:18 GMT
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In <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Steve Work) writes:


>Might Curtis Mathes be just buying Japanese Panasonic VCR's and
putting
>their name on it and doubling the price?  Hoping that ignorami will
fall
>for it thinking they're getting a "quality" product.
>
>Perhaps they apply the C.M. label in Texas, and call this
"manufacture".
>The parts (i.e. VCR, label) are imported but assembled in the US.

You guessed it.  They charge a 75% markup for the "Curtis Mathis
Extended Warranty".  How anyone can fall for this scam is beyond me.

Steve


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From: [e-mail] (JCEEIII)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: D.I.R.T. Racing Team Frequencies
Date: 14 Oct 1996 22:14:50 -0400
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Can anyone help me in locating source for up-to-date listing of D.I.R.T.
modified racing team frequencies? Would prefer one that includes the
drivers name and current car number. Thanks!


From [e-mail] Sat Oct 19 10:44:24 1996
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From: Bob Henry <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Disable "beep" on 2006?
Date: Mon, 14 Oct 1996 18:54:31 -0700
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Try replacing or recharging the batteries!
Steve Garber wrote:
>
> How do I disable the "beep" noise each time I use my PRO-2006?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Steve


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From: (Copper Penny)
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Subject: Re: Disable "beep" on 2006?
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On Mon, 14 Oct 1996 18:54:31 -0700, Bob Henry <[e-mail]>
wrote:

>Try replacing or recharging the batteries!
>Steve Garber wrote:
>>
>> How do I disable the "beep" noise each time I use my PRO-2006?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Steve
No No No there is a mod to disable the beep, you don't replace or
recharge the battery. Steve answer this note and I will E-Mail it to
you directly.

Happy Scanning,

Copper Penny.


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From: [e-mail] (William A Charette)
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Subject: Discone ?'s
Date: 18 Oct 1996 04:01:37 -0500
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a couple questions...
I've never seen one before....how big are they?

Is it something that needs to be mounted on a rooftop like a ham radio
antenna? or is it something that can be in a car with a portable scanner?

If it's a rooftop deal, does it need a mast?

How much does a new one run?

If/when I look for one, where might I find a new one if there isn't one
for sale in this group (as in which specific stores or what kinds of
stores in general, or mail order houses as well?)

And...which bands or frequency ranges will it help with?


email preferred.  Reply to [e-mail]


thanks in advance,
Bill


From [e-mail] Sat Oct 19 10:44:27 1996
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From: Scott Blaha <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: Discone ?'s
Date: Fri, 18 Oct 1996 12:03:54 -0700
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William A Charette wrote:
>
> a couple questions...
> I've never seen one before....how big are they?

Most are about 2-3' high, and 3' dia or so at the base.

>
> Is it something that needs to be mounted on a rooftop like a ham radio
> antenna?

can be-I like to 'hang' mine in the attic with nonconductive plastic.

> or is it something that can be in a car with a portable scanner?

Only if you have a spare seat you're not using <g>

>
> If it's a rooftop deal, does it need a mast?

see above

>
> How much does a new one run?

Varies...RS has two; one for $15-20, and one for $60. I have them both,
but to be honest, the $15 one is a deal.

>
> If/when I look for one, where might I find a new one if there isn't one
> for sale in this group (as in which specific stores or what kinds of
> stores in general, or mail order houses as well?)

RS, as I mentioned, or try the Grove home page.

>
> And...which bands or frequency ranges will it help with?

Well, the advertise 25-1300Mhz, but without adding a vertical element,
you don't get as good cordless reception.

>
> email preferred.  Reply to [e-mail]
>
> thanks in advance,
> Bill

Hope this helps

Scott


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From: Don Hayes <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Dole back in NJ Sunday the 13th
Date: Sun, 13 Oct 96 07:01:44 -0500
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Great posting!!! Thanks ! By the way...Dole's SS call is PATRIOT.
Enjoy the listening opportunity.


From [e-mail] Sat Oct 19 10:44:29 1996
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From: [e-mail] (S87C51)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: DTMF Decoder web site
Date: 15 Oct 1996 20:27:30 -0400
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Hi,

The best "free" dtmf decoder I have seen is the one by ConCept Technology.
It is a DOS based version and is available for download on:

http://home.aol.com/pdrunen

This genius used the parallel port to bring in the data coming out of a
M8870 decoder.  His program dates/times it and saves to disk.  Even has a
very well drawn schematic of the decoder in the GIF format.

I contacted him last week and he said he almost has the windows version
completed.  This one will use power from the parallel port to get away
from ext battery.  I check his web site every day to get it!  His email is
[e-mail] if you want on his list.  This windows program will also
let you minimize the icon and still receive DTMF tones in the background.
he has added a wave file which speaks the dtmf tones as they are received.

Will let everyone know when the windows version is on the site!

He said he should have some PC cards aval very soon as his friend in Aust
is doing the PCB layout(s)!  I use mine on my scanner and have no problem
logging the phones made on my personal repeater.

Well, that all for now!

S87C51.



From [e-mail] Sat Oct 19 10:44:30 1996
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From: KIRK MCDONALD <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: DTMF Decoder web site
Date: Fri, 18 Oct 1996 23:52:38 -0400
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S87C51 wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> The best "free" dtmf decoder I have seen is the one by ConCept Technology.
> It is a DOS based version and is available for download on:
>
> http://home.aol.com/pdrunen
>
> This genius used the parallel port to bring in the data coming out of a
> M8870 decoder.  His program dates/times it and saves to disk.  Even has a
> very well drawn schematic of the decoder in the GIF format.
>
> I contacted him last week and he said he almost has the windows version
> completed.  This one will use power from the parallel port to get away
> from ext battery.  I check his web site every day to get it!  His email is
> [e-mail] if you want on his list.  This windows program will also
> let you minimize the icon and still receive DTMF tones in the background.
> he has added a wave file which speaks the dtmf tones as they are received.
>
> Will let everyone know when the windows version is on the site!
>
> He said he should have some PC cards aval very soon as his friend in Aust
> is doing the PCB layout(s)!  I use mine on my scanner and have no problem
> logging the phones made on my personal repeater.
>
> Well, that all for now!
>
> S87C51.

What is a DTMF Decoder and what can it do for me or my scanner ? I am
familar with CTCSS tones but not DTMF.
TIA
KM


From [e-mail] Sat Oct 19 10:44:31 1996
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From: [e-mail] (David)
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Subject: Re: DTMF decoders?
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DTMF decoders are also available here
http://www.rain.org/~dschmidt
Battery operated, full assembled less case, all 16 tones decoded.
16x2 line LCD display
511 number non-volatile memory
scroll buttons
2400 baud RS232 port for your PC.  With cable
runs off any DC voltage from 5.1V to 40V (10mA draw), 9volt clip
attached.
$70.00
dave
DSchmidt Technologies

On 9 Oct 1996 02:29:28 GMT, Aaron <A.SCHREIBER-COMPETATIVE.SHOOTER>
wrote:

>I am looking for a DTMF decoder at a fair price.  Any suggestions?  Also,
>anyone ever use MoTron Electronic's TDD8X?
>Thanks in advance for any suggestions.
>



From [e-mail] Sat Oct 19 10:44:32 1996
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From: [e-mail] (mystery)
Subject: Re: DTMF decoders?
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[e-mail] (kevin kibbe) wrote:

>Aaron <A.SCHREIBER-COMPETATIVE.SHOOTER> wrote:

>>I am looking for a DTMF decoder at a fair price.  Any suggestions?  Also,
>>anyone ever use MoTron Electronic's TDD8X?
>>Thanks in advance for any suggestions.

>Not too hard a thing to make for about $20. Most of the work can be
>done by one IC. The chip you need is a MC145436AP and a xtal that  can
>be found at just about any electronics parts store, a 3.579545 MHZ.
>You will also need the Motorla Data Book, this book give the schematic
>for the rest of the hookup. A 1 M Ohm resistor and a 0.1uF cap are the
>rest of the parts.

>The only problem is that you will need some way to view the output of
>the chip which is in BCD. This can be sent to the parallel port of
>your computer and read into you machine using BASIC if you like. If
>you are handy with electronics you should have no problem. If anyone
>likes I will sent an ASCII diagram of the basic hookup. I will be
>using a basic Stamp to display the BCD data on a LCD display. When I
>have finished this I will post the plans and program if anyone wants.
>(It will take about 2 weeks due to the shipping delay I have waiting
>for the STAMP uC)

>I have build the decoder part and it works just fine on my scanner.


>                                       Kevin Kibbe
got a pager?
I recently read an artical about using a pager to decode DTMF
here is the web site   http://www.thecodex.com/








From [e-mail] Sat Oct 19 10:44:33 1996
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From: Don Hayes <[e-mail]>
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Steve is right on the money. While you can purchase parts and build it on
your own, the Motron is an excellent value for the price! It does flat
out work as advertised. Has a good size LED display, memory for storing the
decoded numbers, free software for direct inputting into a pc, and a well
built circuit board. All you need for portability is a cabinet and a power
source for the DC. You cannot beat the price !!!!

Don


From [e-mail] Sat Oct 19 10:44:34 1996
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Just a quick note, I have an LCD DTMF decoder, assembled (less case),
16x2 line LCD display, 511 number non-volatile memory, all 16 tones
decoded, 2400 baud RS232 output, scroll and clear buttons for sale.
Current consumption is <10mA at a DC input of 5.1-40VDC (comes with a
9V battery clip all for $70.00.
    If you want to see a picture and a full description, point your
web browser to http://www.rain.org/~dschmidt
Dave
DSchmidt Technologies

On Sun, 13 Oct 96 06:57:37 -0500, Don Hayes <[e-mail]>
wrote:

>Steve is right on the money. While you can purchase parts and build it on
>your own, the Motron is an excellent value for the price! It does flat
>out work as advertised. Has a good size LED display, memory for storing the
>decoded numbers, free software for direct inputting into a pc, and a well
>built circuit board. All you need for portability is a cabinet and a power
>source for the DC. You cannot beat the price !!!!
>
>Don



From [e-mail] Sat Oct 19 10:44:35 1996
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From: [e-mail] (John)
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Subject: Re: ENCRYPTED COMMUNICATIONS:  Expert advice sought, please.
Date: Tue, 15 Oct 1996 02:19:29 GMT
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"John F. Masinter" <[e-mail]> wrote:
>Now this is something I definitely know about...

Some may beg to differ..

>I develop encryption software for a living. You will not crack
>*anything* DES encrypted in the near future. That's why the
>U.S. Government is so afraid of it. Not even they can crack it.
>In fact, at this point in time, it is consider by US Law to be a
>munition, and exportation of any software containing DES is highly
>illegal. And if you do happen to have a Cray-YMP laying around,
>all that a manufacturer would have to do is lengthen the key.

I can't remember the specifics, but I thought I would publicly note
that there is research to the contrary of the above statements.  My
comments below are off the top of my head and this information is
available through various web sites and maybe even the SCI.CRYPT
newsgroup FAQ.

Certain DES keys have been shown to be weak.  I don't remember the
details or whether they used a particular mathematical analysis to
weaken the keys, but the information IS available on the web.  That's
where I read it.

I believe someone was able to brute force a DES key (was it 1024 bits?
I don't know.. but it's documented.) by parallel processing on a
rather large network of computers.  6 million dollars worth of
computers comes to mind.  And it didn't take eons to brute force.  I
believe it was a week of CPU time.

None the less, the lowly PC user doesn't have a chance in hell.  The
best bet would be to get access to the key through whatever means
possible.  Then your set.

I believe the government is more terrified of Public Key encryption as
opposed to DES.

Good luck.

John Herndon
[e-mail]


From [e-mail] Sat Oct 19 10:44:36 1996
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From: John Mackey KA0SSF <[e-mail]>
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BAYCITVIDGRP wrote:

> >You are becoming the Laurel & Hardy or Cheech & Chong of the newsgroup
  --snip--
>      gosh...if that's true. just think how rich the Cheeks Guy is going
>       to be....and famous....the Cheech and Chong referrent...plus the

Gee, that means I would get a pretty good cut of the money made!



>       You really need to get a handle on what's right with this.
>       the cheeks guy has his place in the universe...and it is
in the sewer.  (correct ending added)




From [e-mail] Sat Oct 19 10:44:37 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Carl)
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Subject: FCC Pig Watches Over Your Shoulder
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I got an Email respose to a post I made in "alt.fan'mr-kfi" and a
poster who's going by ôsundown66ö threatened to turn me in to the FCC
for posting something relating to scanner radios and another,
completely unrelated post relating to cordless phones.  He actually
accused me of listening in to coreless phone conversations with my
scanner!  Well, I was shocked at such a scandalous accusation.
Anyways, I thought some of you might be interested in knowing about
this individual.  If you'd like to see the original Email, let me know
via Email

[e-mail]




From [e-mail] Sat Oct 19 10:44:38 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Dr Pepper)
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On Sun, 13 Oct 1996 21:03:15 GMT, [e-mail]
(Carl) wrote:

>I got an Email respose to a post I made in "alt.fan'mr-kfi" and a
>poster who's going by ôsundown66ö threatened to turn me in to the FCC
>for posting something relating to scanner radios and another,
>completely unrelated post relating to cordless phones.  He actually
>accused me of listening in to coreless phone conversations with my
>scanner!  Well, I was shocked at such a scandalous accusation.
>Anyways, I thought some of you might be interested in knowing about
>this individual.  If you'd like to see the original Email, let me know
>via Email
>
>[e-mail]
>
>
HHhhhmmmmmm, , ,  I think I'll do a DejaNews on him, ,    :-}~


Dr Pepper
10 - 2 - 4
Good Anytime


From [e-mail] Sat Oct 19 10:44:39 1996
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From: [e-mail] (tyler)
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In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail]

says...
>
>On Sun, 13 Oct 1996 21:03:15 GMT, [e-mail]
>(Carl) wrote:
>
>>I got an Email respose to a post I made in "alt.fan'mr-kfi" and a
>>poster who's going by ôsundown66ö threatened to turn me in to the FCC
>>for posting something relating to scanner radios and another,
>>completely unrelated post relating to cordless phones.  He actually
>>accused me of listening in to coreless phone conversations with my
>>scanner!  Well, I was shocked at such a scandalous accusation.
>>Anyways, I thought some of you might be interested in knowing about
>>this individual.  If you'd like to see the original Email, let me know
>>via Email
>>
>>[e-mail]
>>
>>
>HHhhhmmmmmm, , ,  I think I'll do a DejaNews on him, ,    :-}~
>
What is DejaNews????

...Tyler



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From: [e-mail] (George F.)
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In article <542r95$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] says...
>
>In article <[e-mail]>,
[e-mail]
>says...
>>
>>On Sun, 13 Oct 1996 21:03:15 GMT, [e-mail]
>>(Carl) wrote:
>>
>>>I got an Email respose to a post I made in "alt.fan'mr-kfi" and a
>>>poster who's going by ôsundown66ö threatened to turn me in to the FCC
>>>for posting something relating to scanner radios and another,
>>>completely unrelated post relating to cordless phones.  He actually
>>>accused me of listening in to coreless phone conversations with my
>>>scanner!  Well, I was shocked at such a scandalous accusation.
>>>Anyways, I thought some of you might be interested in knowing about
>>>this individual.  If you'd like to see the original Email, let me know
>>>via Email
>>>
>>>[e-mail]
>>>
>>>

If I'm not to listen to a cordless telephone radio transmission or a celluar
telephone radio trasmission, then keep the damn radio transmission out of my
house, you are trasspassing!!!

George,

Cut Gov't Waste, Cut the FCC.

The FCC, another worthless big brother organization!



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>>>>I got an Email respose to a post I made in "alt.fan'mr-kfi" and a
>>>>poster who's going by ôsundown66ö threatened to turn me in to the FCC
>>>>for posting something relating to scanner radios and another,
>>>>completely unrelated post relating to cordless phones.  He actually
>>>>accused me of listening in to coreless phone conversations with my
>>>>scanner!  Well, I was shocked at such a scandalous accusation.
>>>>Anyways, I thought some of you might be interested in knowing about
>>>>this individual.  If you'd like to see the original Email, let me know
>>>>via Email

PLEASE POST HIS NOTE TO YOU AS WELL AS HIS E-MAIL ADDRESS.....THANKS...



From [e-mail] Sat Oct 19 10:44:41 1996
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Subject: Fleet Week  Freqs needed
Date: Fri, 11 Oct 1996 23:34:24 -0700
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I need the frequencies used at Fleet Week in San Francisco and the Blue
Angles.
--



Greg Ottria, KE6PTP
Castro Valley, California
E-Mail: [e-mail]
1996 Sea Doo GTX
"A man who is smiling when things go wrong
 has thought of someone he can blame"


From [e-mail] Sat Oct 19 10:44:42 1996
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From: CL Lim ([e-mail])
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[e-mail] (cl lim) writes:
Can anyone tell me what are the FM and MW broadcast band limits for Israel? Wh
at is the frequency raster (step)? Thanks in
advance.



From [e-mail] Sat Oct 19 10:44:43 1996
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Subject: FM Wide?
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I've been looking at specs for some scanners, and have noticed some
have a feature called FM Wide.  Can anyone tell me what the purpose of
this is?

Thanks.



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From: [e-mail] (Glen Quarnstrom)
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Subject: Re: FM Wide?
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[e-mail] (Ken Flanagan) wrote:

>I've been looking at specs for some scanners, and have noticed some
>have a feature called FM Wide.  Can anyone tell me what the purpose of
>this is?

In general, most voice comms are in what's called NBFM (Narrow Band
Frequency Modulation).  This includes ham comms, police calls, mobile
radio, dispatch, cellular, etc.

Wide FM would be your FM broadcast staions, who use a much wider
bandwidth, which gives room for much higher fidelity than voice grade
communications.  Wide FM will let you listen to FM broadcast stations
and TV audio if the scanner covers that range.



--
[e-mail]

"General statements are as valid as specific ones." ...Bill Cheek 8/11/95



From [e-mail] Sat Oct 19 10:44:45 1996
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From: Jeff Christner <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: FM Wide?
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Ken Flanagan wrote:
>
> I've been looking at specs for some scanners, and have noticed some
> have a feature called FM Wide.  Can anyone tell me what the purpose of
> this is?
>
> Thanks.

Well, back when I was in the Air Force, one of the comm systems on our
aircraft (EC-135P) used wide band FM, the system was for
uplinks/downlinks and used one frequency for each, TX & RX. It could
also be encrypted but mostly it was in the clear, I am not sure how it
was used in flight as I only listened to it during ground tests. The
radio could be tuned in the standard military aircraft frequencies, i.e.
225-400Mhz.

--
Jeff C.

"There's some nationalism left in the world, but mostly it's
giant corporations who walk the earth as if it were their own."


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From: [e-mail] (Marcum N. Nance III)
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Subject: Re: FM Wide?
Date: Thu, 17 Oct 1996 12:29:57 GMT
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Ken Flanagan wrote:
>
> I've been looking at specs for some scanners, and have noticed some
> have a feature called FM Wide.  Can anyone tell me what the purpose of
> this is?

The signal that an FM transmitter sends out is called its carrier.
The basic idea behind FM is that as the loudness of the audio signal
we want to transmit (the voice or song or whatever) varies, the carier
moves.
An unmodulated FM transmitter (one that has silence when you listen to
it) sends out its carrier on its 'carrier frequency', (that is the
frequency that you dial on your receiver to listen to the channel).
The maximum amount that the carrier is allowed to move is refered to
as its 'bandwidth' or as its 'peak deveation'.
There are two 'types' of fm  they are narrow and wide, they have to do
with the ratio of 'bandwidth' to 'carrier frequency'.

The reason for the two types has to do with the amount of 'data' that
needs to be sent without distortion, (said another way it depends on
how much distortion you can live with and still have a good signal).

A FM 'wide' station would be for  one that is either sending alot of
data very rapidly or needs 'low distortion'. A perfect example is a
stereo  fm radio staion, which sends '2' copies of the sound you are
listening to (one for the left channel and one for the right) and they
want that sound to have very little distortion so that it sounds good
when you hear it.

On the other hand a police dispatcher can be understood easily even
when some of the 'sound' of his/her voice is lost completely, kind of
the way that your telephone doesn't transmit your 'true voice'
(reguardless of what AT&T says in its comercials). The Alpha codes the
police use (subsituting a word for a letter) make up for the fact that
with the loss or distortion its tough to tell the difference between
various letters ( which is why say B,D, and E are often confused on
the phone).

Your receiver must match the 'wide vs narrow' of the transmitter
otherwise it cannot decode them properly.






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From: [e-mail](Steve S)
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Subject: Re: FM Wide?
Date: 17 Oct 1996 23:48:55 GMT
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In <[e-mail]> Jeff Christner <[e-mail]> writes:

>Well, back when I was in the Air Force, one of the comm systems on our
>aircraft (EC-135P) used wide band FM, the system was for
>uplinks/downlinks and used one frequency for each, TX & RX. It could
>also be encrypted but mostly it was in the clear, I am not sure how it
>was used in flight as I only listened to it during ground tests. The
>radio could be tuned in the standard military aircraft frequencies,
i.e. >225-400Mhz.
>--
>Jeff C.

There is a function on several military UHF radios for FM and WBFM in
the 225-400 MHz range (EC-135/E-3/E-4/etc).  Firstly, 99% of clear
voice military aviation comms in this band are in the narrowband AM
mode. Secure voice comms are in the wideband or narrowband AM mode.
NBFM mode was rarely used operationally and may have originated in
order to have interoperability with federal (ground) agencies operating
in the 380-400 MHz range.  WBFM usually enabled a separate 70 MHz IF
input line to the radio which was fed from external modem equipment
(i.e. SATCOM or FDM mux).  So, back to the original question, the
previous posts about WFM for broadcast and TV audio reception seem to
be on target.  You really don't have a need for it in the 225-400 MHz
band.

Steve S.
KAF8111


From [e-mail] Sat Oct 19 10:44:48 1996
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In <5458qr$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Marcum N. Nance
III) writes:
>A perfect example is a stereo  fm radio staion, which sends '2' copies
>of the sound you are listening to (one for the left channel and one
for >the right) and they want that sound to have very little distortion
so >that it sounds good when you hear it.

Well... actually, an FM broadcast consists of a left+right program
(0-15kHz) and a left-right program (23-38kHz).
{Plus a stereo pilot tone at 19kHz but who's counting}  ;o)

Good analogy though on narrow versus wide, Marcum!

Steve S.
KAF8111

****GMRS - The license you buy WITHOUT taking a test!!!****


From [e-mail] Sat Oct 19 10:44:49 1996
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Subject: Re: FM Wide?
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In <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Steve Work) writes:

>
>Steve S ([e-mail]) wrote:
>
>: Well... actually, an FM broadcast consists of a left+right program
>: (0-15kHz) and a left-right program (23-38kHz).
>: {Plus a stereo pilot tone at 19kHz but who's counting}  ;o)

>Acutally, one way of describing how FM stereo works is this.  It
switches >between left and right 38,000 times a second.  If you're
listening on a
>mono FM radio you can't hear the switching, you just hear a mixture.
A
>stereo FM receiver can be built by taking a switch which operates at
>38Khz where you feed the received signal alternately to the left and
>right channels.  Many radios are designed this way.  The 19KHz tone is

>used to "sync up" the 38Khz switch.

That's pretty funny.  Now, tell everyone how it REALLY works before
some kid thinks this is true and runs off to tell his friends.
Remember, add the L+R to the L-R signal, etc, etc.


From [e-mail] Sat Oct 19 10:44:49 1996
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From: [e-mail]
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Subject: For Sale 200 ch Base Scanner **CELL**
Date: Sat, 12 Oct 1996 08:40:48 GMT
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Pro 2032 radio shack scanner 200 ch base with Cell Mod
like new with Manual ready to work right out of the box
$$140.00 leave e-mail to [e-mail]


From [e-mail] Sat Oct 19 10:44:50 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Braman)
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Subject: For Sale Pro-26
Date: Thu, 17 Oct 1996 16:29:57 GMT
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I have a pro-26 radioshack scanner and a pro 2006 for sale. I'm asking
225.00 for the 2006 fully modified. and 325.00 for the pro-26 with ac
adapter and leather case. if you know anything about scanners this is
a hell of a deal. Please contact me ASAP.


From [e-mail] Sat Oct 19 10:44:51 1996
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From: [e-mail] (rick thompson)
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Subject: FOR SALE: AOR AR-8000 W/ full coverage
Date: Sun, 13 Oct 1996 01:58:16 GMT
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        Mint AOR AR-8000 with FULL COVERAGE.  Barely used.  Comes with AC
adapter, leather case, Optoelectronics Scout connector, box, manual,
and receipt.  Not a scratch!  $500, and I pay the shipping.  E-mail if
interested.



From [e-mail] Sat Oct 19 10:44:52 1996
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From: Martin Connor <[e-mail]>
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Subject: For Sale: Pro-39
Date: Wed, 16 Oct 1996 16:09:44 -0700
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For Sale:

        Modified PRO-39 for $200.00 (American) includes:
        - set of Nicads
        - battery charger
        - original rubber duck antenna
        - RS center-loaded telescoping whip antenna
        - original box and manual
        - shipping to Continental 48 states


                                [e-mail]


From [e-mail] Sat Oct 19 10:44:53 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Barry Adair)
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Subject: Fort Worth Med Freqs
Date: Thu, 17 Oct 1996 18:23:11 GMT
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I was a lady asking for the Fort Worth Med Freqs, but I misplaced her
address, so here goes.
Most Med in the Fort Worth area is on the Fort Worth Trunked System
so just monitor the police freqs and you shound hear them, also the
fire department has a EMS Dispatch freq of
856.4375 Channel 1 Dispatch
857.4375 Channel 2 Major Fires
858.4375 Channel 3 Minor Fires & Other incidents
859.4375 Channel 4 Medical & Adm.
860.4375 Channel 5 Special Ops

Careflight in Fort Worth Dispatch is 155.280
Careflight in Dallas Dispatch is 155.340

I have listings of about all of the Metroplex freqs, you can contact
me at
[e-mail]



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From: "Borgman" <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Frank in Oregon, email me please.
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        If you still have that PRO-43 for sale, please let me know.
                                                        Jason
                                                        [e-mail]


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From: [e-mail] (JIM LATHROP)
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Subject: Re: Freq's for football games
Date: Thu, 10 Oct 96 23:24:00 -0800
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In reference to the coaching staff, the communications from the press
box coaches to the on the field coaches are hard wired. Occasionally you
will notice in a game that the system is out for one of the teams
(someone unplugged or tripped over a wire, I suppose), when that happens
the rules state that the other team must stop using their commo
equipment until the other's is fixed. Occasionally the referees will
announce this to the crowd, just like a penalty announcement, and
sometimes they dont, but a TV crew that is on the ball will notice and
mention it to their audience.
If the origi


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From: [e-mail](BAYCITVIDGRP)
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Subject: Re: Freqs.for Freeway Service Patrol-Bay Area??
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In <53qelh$[e-mail]>
[e-mail](BAYCITVIDGRP) writes:
>
>In <53q60v$[e-mail]> [e-mail](Anthony
>Santiago ) writes:
>>
>>Does anyone know what Freq's the FSP tow truck's are on?? It looks
>like
>>800 or 900 MHZ antennas on the roofs. I heard the may be dispatched
>via
>>cell phone or MDT by CHP.
>>
>>
>>     BASE150
>
>   cellphones....?  Most tow trucks get their calls on their
     good old standby company radios....Some have MDT...but
     not many.

    IF you will listen, the chp officer on scene asks dispatch
    for a fsp....dispatch says they have been dispatched already.

    Then i hear: officer on scene calling FSP to come .... that
     is cellular.  I do video for a tow company and will get back
     with the exact way it is done next time.  This company is
      very big....they pulled a Garbage Truck out of a Motel swimming
      Pool the other day....three tow trucks show up and they used
     one.

     Big Tow Trucks....

     be back when I talk to the company when I deliver the video Monday

    or
>
>   why not just ask one when you see one on
>    the street where you live?
>
>   bill



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Subject: Freqs.for Freeway Service Patrol-Bay Area??
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Does anyone know what Freq's the FSP tow truck's are on?? It looks like
800 or 900 MHZ antennas on the roofs. I heard the may be dispatched via
cell phone or MDT by CHP.


     BASE150


From [e-mail] Sat Oct 19 10:44:57 1996
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From: Cameron Jones <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Frequencies Worth Listening to in PERTH W.A.
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Does Anyone Have Any Good Frequencies Worth Listening To In The Perth
Western Australia Area The Usual Stuff Is Getting Quite Boring I Can
Listen In Any Mode Between 100KHz-2060GHz

PLEASE EMAILS ONLY




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From: "Bill O'Connor" <[e-mail]>
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Jeff:
Try Percon Corp. at http://perconcorp.com  they have several products that
can meet your needs or dnld from ther on-line database.
Bill

N9mxt <[e-mail]> wrote in article
<53nv60$[e-mail]>...
> Hello,
>   Does anyone know where I can get a CD/ROM or DISK filled with all the
> licensed frequencys of ILLINOIS?  I am a serious scanner buff and when I
> get frequencies on the scanner that I don't know who or what they are, I
> would like to look them up!
>
>     If you know where I can get this DATABASE, please let me know.
>
>                      Thanks for your time..     N9MXT - Jeffrey
>


From [e-mail] Sat Oct 19 10:44:59 1996
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From: Tom Montgomery <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: FS   RS Pro 2004
Date: Tue, 15 Oct 1996 13:02:07 -0700
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Tom Montgomery wrote:
>
> Pro 2004 for sale:
>
> Has cell mod, scan speed mod and 400 channel memory mod. Great shape,
> comes with car adapter, antenna, original manual, original box, and as a
> bonus the RS Service Manual with schematics !!
>
> $200.00
>
> If you live in the SF Bay area, I will meet you half way to deliver.
> If not, e-mail me at:
>
> [e-mail]


SOLD in a record 30 minutes !!    Thanks.


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Subject: Re: FS   RS Pro 2004
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Tom Montgomery wrote:
>
> Pro 2004 for sale:
>
> Has cell mod, scan speed mod and 400 channel memory mod. Great shape,
> comes with car adapter, antenna, original manual, original box, and as a
> bonus the RS Service Manual with schematics !!
>
> $200.00
>
> If you live in the SF Bay area, I will meet you half way to deliver.
> If not, e-mail me at:
>
> [e-mail]


SOLD in a record 30 minutes !!    Thanks.


From [e-mail] Sat Oct 19 10:45:01 1996
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From: Tom Montgomery <[e-mail]>
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Subject: FS   RS Pro 2004
Date: Tue, 15 Oct 1996 10:42:05 -0700
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Pro 2004 for sale:

Has cell mod, scan speed mod and 400 channel memory mod. Great shape,
comes with car adapter, antenna, original manual, original box, and as a
bonus the RS Service Manual with schematics !!

$200.00

If you live in the SF Bay area, I will meet you half way to deliver.
If not, e-mail me at:

[e-mail]


From [e-mail] Sat Oct 19 10:45:01 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Daniel M. Conti)
Subject: FS : DIAMOND Discone antenna
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DIAMOND Discone antenna for sale, 4 mos old....
$50.00 shipped to 48, COD $5.00 extra

E-MAIL IF INTERESTED
[e-mail]
Compuserve - 71242,1774        Amateur Radio - N2TYB
Ridgefield, New Jersey




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DIAMOND MX-2000 Triplexer for sale, 2 mos old, $65.00 shipped to 48,
COD $5.00 extra

E-MAIL IF INTERESTED
[e-mail]
Compuserve - 71242,1774        Amateur Radio - N2TYB
Ridgefield, New Jersey




From [e-mail] Sat Oct 19 10:45:03 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Daniel M. Conti)
Subject: FS : PRO-2006 Base Scanner - MINT, unblocked!
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Realistic PRO-2006 base scanner for sale.  The best ever made in my
opinion and that of many others.  MINT condition, harldy used, in box
with manual, and antenna.  Cellular and speed up mods HAVE been done.
$350.00 shipped to 48, COD $5.00 extra.

E-Mail if interested.
[e-mail]
Compuserve - 71242,1774        Amateur Radio - N2TYB
Ridgefield, New Jersey




From [e-mail] Sat Oct 19 10:45:04 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Daniel M. Conti)
Subject: FS : Radio Shack External Speakers
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I have four (4) Radio Shack external speakers that I will no longer
need....they are less then 6 mos old, cat # 21-549, and sell new for
$14.99 each at the shack.  First person to shoot me $35.00 for all
four gets 'em, shipped to 48.....

E-MAIL IF INTERESTED
[e-mail]
Compuserve - 71242,1774        Amateur Radio - N2TYB
Ridgefield, New Jersey




From [e-mail] Sat Oct 19 10:45:05 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Daniel M. Conti)
Subject: FS : Standard C508A min dual band HT
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Standard C508A mini dual band HT for sale.  MINT condition, in box
with manual.

$185.00 shipped to 48. COD $5.00 extra

E-Mail if interested.
[e-mail]
Compuserve - 71242,1774        Amateur Radio - N2TYB
Ridgefield, New Jersey




From [e-mail] Sat Oct 19 10:45:05 1996
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From: [e-mail] (William D. Lambert)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: FS ICOM 7100 & CT-17
Date: Sun, 13 Oct 1996 21:46:40 GMT
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I have an Icom 7100  SN/03320  with cellular unblocked in good
condition. I have the original box, operators manual, and service
manual. The CT-17 interface has never been used.

This radio has been used primarily with a Motron TXID transmitter
fingerprint system and a 15 pin D connector has been added to the rear
panel to interface with this equipment.  Radio has less than 50 hours
total use.

$1050.00 plus shipping for everything.

Please e-mail direct.

Bill Lambert

[e-mail]



From [e-mail] Sat Oct 19 10:45:07 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Thomas N Tumino)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: FS ICOM R1 (Clarification)
Date: 17 Oct 1996 02:12:32 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
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I don't know this guy but I have an R1 and the standard coverage range is
.1 - 1300 Mhz.

Javin Press ([e-mail]) wrote:
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: [e-mail] wrote in article <[e-mail]>...
: > ICOM-R1 hand held scanner with an extra nicad battery unit, wall charger
: > and extra antenna.  100-1300 Mhz with no blocks.  (Gets cell phones.)
: > 100 channel memory, 10 banks, clock, timer, etc.  Everything comes in
: > its original box with the manual. Excellent condition.  Retails for $599
: > with cell phone block.  Yours for w/o cell phone block for $300 plus
: > shipping.  Please email
: >

: Do you mean 1 MHz to 1300 MHz, or 100 MHz to 1300 MHz?
: Where did you buy it from? Europe? Or did you do the modification yourself?
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: nicad battery unit, wall charger<br>> and extra antenna.  100-1300
: Mhz with no blocks.  (Gets cell phones.) <br>> 100 channel memory,
: 10 banks, clock, timer, etc.  Everything comes in<br>> its original
: box with the manual. Excellent condition.  Retails for $599<br>>
: with cell phone block.  Yours for w/o cell phone block for $300
: plus<br>> shipping.  Please email<br>> <br><br>Do you mean 1 MHz
: to 1300 MHz, or 100 MHz to 1300 MHz?<br>Where did you buy it from? Europe?
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From [e-mail] Sat Oct 19 10:45:07 1996
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From: [e-mail] (William D. Lambert)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: FS ICOM R7100
Date: Fri, 18 Oct 1996 02:40:10 GMT
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Icom R7100 with cellular in good condition. 900.00  shipped.

If interested please reply direct.

Bill Lambert

[e-mail]



From [e-mail] Sat Oct 19 10:45:08 1996
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From: Marty <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.swap,misc,.emer-services,nyc.for.sale,rec.radio.scanner
Subject: FS MOTOROLA HT 220 VHF
Date: Sat, 19 Oct 1996 06:07:59 -0700
Organization: IDT Corporation
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I have Motorola HT-220 Slim-line Portable Radios for sale. These radios
are set up On VHF 150-160 Mhz They can talk point to point up to 1 mile.
I am asking $ 100.00 for two radios. Batteries not included.


From [e-mail] Sat Oct 19 10:45:09 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Barry Adair)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: FS Radio Shack Pro-62
Date: Tue, 15 Oct 1996 14:30:31 GMT
Organization: INTERNET AMERICA
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For Sale Radio Shack Pro-62 Scanner, 200 channel triple conversion,
hyperscan.
Make offer to :
[e-mail]
or call
817-531-7292,  any offer is plus shipping, payment is with USPO Money
Order, shipping will be UPS Ground, unless you request otherwise.



From [e-mail] Sat Oct 19 10:45:10 1996
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From: Tom Montgomery <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: FS RS Pro 2004
Date: Tue, 15 Oct 1996 10:40:40 -0700
Organization: Netcom
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RS Pro 2004 for sale:

Has cell mod, scan speed mod, 400 channel memory mod. Great shape, and
comes with car adapter, antenna, original owners manual, original box,
and as a bonus RS Service Manual !!

$200.00

If you live in the SF Bay area, I will meet you halfway for delivery, If
not e-mail me at :

[e-mail]

and we'll talk about shipping. Thanks...


From [e-mail] Sat Oct 19 10:45:12 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Bob Zito)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner,rec.radio.swap,alt.radio.scanner
Subject: FS/FT:AOR AR-2515 Scanner in excellent condition now $349.00 + Shipping OR
Date: Sun, 13 Oct 1996 04:29:56 GMT
Organization: Wolfe Internet Access, L.L.C.
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AOR AR-2515 Scanner in excellent condition now $349.00 + Shipping OR
Trade for Dual-band (2m/70 cm mobile tranmceiver OR 1.2 Ghz/220
tranceiver)
 Following specs:
 AOR-AR3000A style case/display/keypad
 Full Cellular enabled
 Priority feature
 Copy data from log or Frequency to Banks
 Link all banks together or group
 12 Vdc input
 120 Vac adapter included
 Modes
   Narrow FM
   Wide FM
   AM
  Search Increments
    5 kHz
    12.5 kHz
    25 kHz
  2000 Memories
 15 programmable Search banks
  5-1500 Mhz
 10-segment LED signal strenth meter as well as recorded in software
 10 db attenuation switch
 Triple conversion
  Lock
  Backlight
  RS232 Computer interface
     DOS Software included!
     Load-up all memories from computer
     Load-up computer Software from Scanner memories
     All functions controllable by software
     Software works with commen Frequency databases
     Spectrum Analyzer in software
     Bank Maintainance in software
     Frequency Database with descriptions in software
     Print Bank & Frequency Lists
     Link/Unlink banks from software
     Cable included!
<[e-mail]> (Bob Zito) KI7EV WA. State


From [e-mail] Sat Oct 19 10:45:13 1996
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From: Bob Schwerdtman <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: FS/TRADE SCANNER
Date: Sat, 12 Oct 1996 16:57:09 -0500
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BC-10 mobile scanner
Preprogrammed to scan police frequencies
New they sell for around $175.00
Mint condition with all packaging and accessories
$100.00 plus one half shipping or would like to trade for desktop
scanner or Shortwave radio or ???


From [e-mail] Sat Oct 19 10:45:14 1996
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From: "Nick Carrigan" <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: FS:  2006 and TR980
Date: 15 Oct 1996 02:54:24 GMT
Organization: Seanet Online Services, Seattle WA
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For Sale:

Trident TR980
(in box, no manual.  Comes with a battery holder and a dc pwr adapter. )

asking $150

R/S Pro 2006
(in box, no manual [like u need one] .. missing internal antenna...
otherwise works
okay...)

asking $200


Nick
[e-mail]



From [e-mail] Sat Oct 19 10:45:14 1996
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From: "Nick Carrigan" <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: FS:  Icom R7100 uncut
Date: 15 Oct 1996 07:29:46 GMT
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For Sale:

Icom R7100 used.  Has range of 25-2.0 Ghz (completely uncut)...

It's fairly used, has a couple of cosmetic dents, otherwise in pefect
condition.

Asking $750 + shipping...



Nick

[e-mail]


From [e-mail] Sat Oct 19 10:45:16 1996
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From: Mindaugas Juknys <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: FS: Antenna for cordless phones
Date: Sat, 12 Oct 1996 00:01:52 -0700
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The AMT-143 externally mounted antenna is designed to extend the effective
diffusion range of household cordless phones (800/900 Mhz).
 Proper placement and mounting of the AMT-143 insures a profound connection
between the base station (transmitter) and receiver.
 Signals sent by the AMT-143 radiate as far as the eyes can see. Neverthless,
the operating frequency range of household cordless phones (800/900 MHz) is
known to be influenced by large ojects and reliefs, typical causing an effect
known as multiple reflection. To avoid this, mount your AMT-143 as high above
your buildings roottop and as far away from other antennas as possible
(flowever, mounting the AMT-143 directly above other antennas is acceptable).
 Following this advice, your signal will have a substantially larger effective

range as well as an evenly distributed effective field. These qualities are
indispensable in urban locations.

Technical data :

Direction pattern...........omnidirectional
Frequency range.............790-980 MHz
Height......................1.3 m
VSWR........................< 1.3:1
Impedance...................50 Om
Gain........................6 dB
Max.power...................50 W
Cable length................10 m/RG 213
Antenne connector...........N
Telephone connector.........TNC
Packing.....................PE

Price.......................$140


For orders or more information, please call to Vilnius, Lithuania
Phone [phone]
Fax   [phone]
or e-mail : [e-mail]


From [e-mail] Sat Oct 19 10:45:17 1996
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From: [e-mail] (tersIan)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: FS: AOR AR 8000
Date: Thu, 17 Oct 1996 15:43:53 GMT
Organization: LebaNet Incorporated.
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Like new, and in mint condition, AOR AR 8000 with cellular mod and
laptop cable.

Asking $450 obo.

Only serious offers please.

-Ben




From [e-mail] Sat Oct 19 10:45:18 1996
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From: P. Mursak <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: FS: AR2700
Date: 18 Oct 1996 14:21:12 -0700
Organization: Zippo
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For Sale: AR2700 Ser. #52816 received as a birthday gift and purchased from AE
S in Milwaukee less than 30 days ago. In
box, complete with manual, receipts, all packaged accessories. Used briefly to
 check electronics and cellular modification only
(less than 1 hr total usage).

No gaps-.5 to 1300Mhz (800 Mod performed by Cellular Security Group in MA., do
cumented cost $50) NFM, WFM, and
AM - 500 Memory channels -
10 Search Banks, Full-Featured hand held, wide band receive scanner.

Will include Radio Shack AA Nicads and Radio Shack 23-242 Quick Charge (in box
). Will also include Austin "Condor"
LB/HB/UHF/800-900 rubber duck replacement antenna ($30 never used).

PRICE: $230 plus shipping. Selling because I have two handhelds and will proba
bly never use this one. Email or call.

Peter Mursak
540-669-7907
[e-mail]


From [e-mail] Sat Oct 19 10:45:19 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Pat)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner,alt.radio.scanner
Subject: FS: CRAIG scanner
Date: Mon, 14 Oct 1996 00:26:21 +0100
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I am moving and after clearing out the attic I found my old scanner. I was
thinking of putting it in a yard sale (or the trash), but thought someone
knowledgeable could tell me if this oldie might be a goodie? I will
describe it a little below. Thanks.


Craig (Model 4354) receiver, circa early 1970s

Made by The Craig Corporation, Compton CA

...owner's manual

...twelve channels

...3-bands

...FM monitor scanner

...program VHF High, Low, and UHF frequencies

...priority and weather channel monitoring

...mobile or base



Pat
_________________________
"All paths lead to home."


From [e-mail] Sat Oct 19 10:45:19 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Donald W. Chapman)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner,alt.radio.scanner
Subject: FS: Pro-26
Date: Sat, 12 Oct 1996 14:16:50 GMT
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For sale PRO-26 with abilty to hear cellular (380 Mhz Image).  Also
has low battery warning beep mod.  Includes book, hi-cap nicads,
charger, and leather case $350.00

don

[e-mail]



From [e-mail] Sat Oct 19 10:45:20 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Greg Wittig)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: FS: Radio Shack Scanner
Date: Thu, 17 Oct 96 17:06:04 GMT
Organization: Network Intensive
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Radio Shack Model 2021. in exc. cond. $125.00 plus shipping.
Greg KE6LPV


From [e-mail] Sat Oct 19 10:45:21 1996
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From: [e-mail] (PJM)
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For Sale: AR2700 Ser. #52816 received as a birthday gift and purchased
from AES in Milwaukee less than 30 days ago. In
box, complete with manual, receipts, all packaged accessories. Used
briefly to check electronics and cellular modification only.  Does not
seem to have reported birdies, etc.
(less than 1 hr total usage).

No gaps-.5 to 1300Mhz (800 Mod performed by Cellular Security Group in
MA., documented cost $50) NFM, WFM, and
AM - 500 Memory channels -
10 Search Banks, Full-Featured hand held, wide band receive scanner.

Will include Radio Shack AA Nicads and Radio Shack 23-242 Quick Charge
(in box). Will also include Austin "Condor"
LB/HB/UHF/800-900 rubber duck replacement antenna ($30 never used).

PRICE: $230 plus shipping. Selling because I have two handhelds and
will probably never use this one. Cannot be returned due to mod. Email
or call.

Peter Mursak
540-669-7907



From [e-mail] Sat Oct 19 10:45:22 1996
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From: "Andrew R. Gozdziewski" <[e-mail]>
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Subject: GMR100 Owners Manual
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I recently purchased two used Uniden GMR100's and did not get an owners
manual with them.  Does anyone know where I can get one or does anyone
have one they would be willing to sell?

Please e-mail me with your responses!

Thanks in advance!

Andrew


From [e-mail] Sat Oct 19 10:45:23 1996
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Does anyone have a Uniden Speaker/Mic they would like to sell?  Has
anyone had any experience with one or have an more information about it
(PTT or voice-activated?)?

Thanks in advance!

Andrew


From [e-mail] Sat Oct 19 10:45:24 1996
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From: [e-mail](Steve S)
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Subject: GMRS CTCSS common tones
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Just wanted to see if anyone with a CTCSS decoder has monitored any
tones on GMRS, especially 462.675.  I want to know what the most common
tones in use are and if there is a nationwide standard for the
Traveler's Assistance channel (shouldn't it be common?).

TIA,
Steve S.
KAF8111


From [e-mail] Sat Oct 19 10:45:26 1996
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From: "Barry Burke Jr." <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: Good apartment/townhouse scanner antenna?
Date: Sat, 12 Oct 1996 22:00:07 -0700
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To: Steve Garber <[e-mail]>

Steve Garber wrote:
>
> Anyone suggest a good scanner antenna for apartment/townhouse
> applications? I would really rather not be limited to using the whip
> antenna supplied with my scanner (horrors!)
>


        I've had good luck with two aftermarket whips.  First, and best (but a PAIN t
o
walk around with <G>) is the Grove ANT-8, it's a set-top BNC telescoping anten
na.  It seems to work
GREAT on lower bands, but it's about 5 feet long.

        The other set-top I've had good luck with is the Rat Shack model with the cen
ter load in it.
BOTH will blow away the rubber duckie that came with my Bearcat.


Barry



From [e-mail] Sat Oct 19 10:45:27 1996
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From: "Robert H. Eisner" <[e-mail]>
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To: Steve Garber <[e-mail]>

Steve Garber wrote:
>
> Does Grove have a WWW home page, and if so, what is it?
>
> Steve

Steve,

Grove's WEB page can be found at http://www.grove.net

Bob


From [e-mail] Sat Oct 19 10:45:28 1996
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Steve Garber wrote:
>
> Does Grove have a WWW home page, and if so, what is it?
>
> Stevehttp://www.grove.net/index.html
--
Gary Beck
[e-mail]
http://fly.hiwaay.net/~gmb/index.html


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In <[e-mail]> "Robert H. Eisner" <[e-mail]>
writes:
>
>Steve Garber wrote:
>>
>> Does Grove have a WWW home page, and if so, what is it?
>>
>> Steve
>
>Steve,
>
>Grove's WEB page can be found at http://www.grove.net
>
>Bob

   Just to be fair to Scanner World: they have one too

         http://www.scannerworld.com
    their e-mail address: [e-mail]

    bill conduit
     etc.


From [e-mail] Sat Oct 19 10:45:29 1996
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I am thinking about buying the Scanner beam by grove. Does anyonehave
or know anything about this? Is the reception much better than a
omnidirecional? Should I buy a discone instead?
                    Thanks, Ken
                    [e-mail]



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Ken ([e-mail]) wrote:
: I am thinking about buying the Scanner beam by grove. Does anyonehave
: or know anything about this? Is the reception much better than a
: omnidirecional? Should I buy a discone instead?
:                     Thanks, Ken
:                     [e-mail]



From [e-mail] Sat Oct 19 10:45:31 1996
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In <549i5j$[e-mail]> [e-mail]
(Thomas N Tumino) writes:
>
>Ken ([e-mail]) wrote:
>: I am thinking about buying the Scanner beam by grove. Does
anyonehave
>: or know anything about this? Is the reception much better than a
>: omnidirecional? Should I buy a discone instead?
>:                     Thanks, Ken
>:                     [e-mail]
>
   I have one...and a discone and another discone and a straight
    mast kind....

     the scanner-beam is a good unit...but it does not pull
     in distant signals like the expensive discone does....

     That is 100 miles away....from San Fran bay area up against
     the hillside and being able to pick up Sacramento Fire or
     San Juaquin Fire on that antennae....or Monterey Fire or
     CHp....or up in the Wine country....major success with the
      BC 300....what a combo...

      The single Mast type is good...for ultra high freq's....

      The scanner beam is good for local listening..it
      seems to get them all quite well...but you will
      discover that for yourself.  Local being within
      30 to 40 miles .....

      bill conduit
      etc.


From [e-mail] Sat Oct 19 10:45:32 1996
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From: "J.W. Wolfington" <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Help find a Web Page
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I am trying to find the web page that listed who had recently applied
for new radio licenses (it was mostly public service licenses)

If anyone has any information please let me know.

J.W. Wolfington    [e-mail]


From [e-mail] Sat Oct 19 10:45:33 1996
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From: DARKSIDE <[e-mail]>
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Subject: HELP IN DADE COUNTY,FLORIDA!!!!!!!!!
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CAN ANYONE HELP IN SETTING UP TO MONITOR THE METRO POLICE TRUNKING
SYSTEM IN DADE COUNTY,FLORIDA AND/OR THE CITY OF MIAMI POLICE???????????
THANKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

>>>>>>THE DARKSIDE


From [e-mail] Sat Oct 19 10:45:34 1996
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From: [e-mail] (kEN Colburn)
Subject: Help with old scanner
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Got some old RS Patrolman scanners. PRO 7A, pro 14 and Pro 45.
They use xtals. Is each xtal only good for one frequency?
2) One scanner is missing 2 xtals- can i put a dif freq xtal in there to get
a dif freq?
 Right now none of them are picking anything up,even with roof discone.

3) Is there 800mHz xtals?

thanks in advance for any help with these.
--
If you'd like to sponsor me (as little as $5) in this year's LOVE RIDE
for Muscular Dystrophy, emale me.
  [e-mail]
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From [e-mail] Sat Oct 19 10:45:34 1996
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From: Jerry Stack <[e-mail]>
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kEN Colburn wrote:
>
> Got some old RS Patrolman scanners. PRO 7A, pro 14 and Pro 45.
> They use xtals. Is each xtal only good for one frequency?

Yes

> 2) One scanner is missing 2 xtals- can i put a dif freq xtal in there to get
> a dif freq?

Yes, you can purchase crystals for $5 at Radio Shack. They have a mail order c
atalog and the service, in my
experience, is quite prompt. Be sure to have the model number with you when yo
u order, since there are two
kinds of crystals, each made to work with a different intermediate frequency.

>  Right now none of them are picking anything up,even with roof discone.

Are you sure that
>
> 3) Is there 800mHz xtals?
>
> I don't know the answer to this, but I believe many of the older scanners we
re not designed for this frequency.


From [e-mail] Sat Oct 19 10:45:35 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Evan Platt)
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Subject: Re: Help!  What scanner is this?
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My guess is this is a Uniden MR8100. A friend of myne has one. He has
seen better scanners. The 760 is a good mobile, does PL. If you have
room, the BC9000 is the best buy. But I believe you are refering to
the MR8100. Not worth it, IMHO.

[e-mail] (Kcc007) wrote:

>I am trying to put together a mobile scanning rig and remember that
>someone(bearcat?) made one that was like a flat square. Looked like
>something that you would see in an emergency vehicle. Like:
>
>[---------------]
>[ XXXXXXXXXXXX  ]
>[ X SCREEN  X   ]
>[ XXXXXXXXXXXX  ]
>[ O  O   O  O   ]
>[---------------]
>
>(Sorry if the picture does not look like a square due to the proportional
>font)


From [e-mail] Sat Oct 19 10:45:36 1996
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From: Rich Wells <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: Help!  What scanner to buy????
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Mark,
   I think your best bet would be a BC-3000XLT. I just purchased one
mail order for $334 + shipping. Uniden did one heck of a nice job
with this beauty(except for the stinkin'Nicad - when are they just
gonna listen and give us AA battery-able scanners?). If the Nicad
thought turns you off(as it did me for a while), try the Radio
Shack Pro-26...you should be able to get one for about $350 mail
order.

Good luck!

Strong signals to all,
Rich
N2MCA
Owner : Pro-34/43/60/26/2006/2042 BC-3000/9000 AR-8000 MVT-7100 R-1
Former Owner : Pro-51 BCT-7 BC-8500
North Carolina editor
The Scanner Club
http://www.enter.net/~jheller/scanclub.html


Mark or Marsha Wilson wrote:
>
> I know, another stupid newbie question.....
>
> I am looking for a good scanner in the $400 range.  I want a hand held,
> that gets as many frequencies as possible.  One thing I DO want is
> military aircraft <I live in Baltimore MD>.  I am looking at a
> bc2500xlt, for $350.  Is this a good deal?
>
> Any help <comments, suggestions, flames...> would be appreciated.
>
> Thanks
>
> Mark


From [e-mail] Sat Oct 19 10:45:37 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Michael Alexander)
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In article <53iua5$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Hay145) wrote:


> You should be able to get the BC-3000XLT for $350 which would be a far
> better choice although if you have a little more to spend take a look at
> the UBC-3000XLT from somebody like Javiation in the UK
> (http://www.demon.co.uk/javiation/) which will give you full 800MHz and
> not be blocked in anyway
>
Yes, it's not blocked but you won't search in 30 KHz steps, however. You'll
need to use the "Turbo" function
and scan at 300 cps in 5 KHz steps.

--
Michael Alexander
[e-mail]


From [e-mail] Sat Oct 19 10:45:38 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Don R. Morgan)
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Subject: Help! Not recieving PD freqs. in 800 - 900 range, Why?
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Hi, I am new to the whole scanner thing and would like to pick up my
local Police Dept.  I have a list of their frequencies and they are
all in the 853.0000 to 855.0000 range.  I have an SC150 - Uniden
Sportcat scanner that will recieve in this range, but I don't ever
seem to pick up anything but some strange noises.  Can anyone help me
with this?   Also, now that I have gotten into this, I am enjoying it
and would like to know, aside from Radio Shack, where I can find
quality handheld scanners.  Any recomendations?

Thanks

Don


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In <53so8a$[e-mail]> [e-mail](Jason
H.) writes:
>
(Garbage unrelated to scanning)

>[End]
>

Sorry to the other NGs but Jason, keep this spam off of our NG
(rec.radio.scanner).  Read the NG FAQs before posting to a bucketful of
newsgroups.   K?!?

Steve


From [e-mail] Sat Oct 19 10:45:40 1996
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From: [e-mail] (David Horak)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: I need your comments on the ICOM R1
Date: 17 Oct 1996 09:20:33 -0500
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In <01bbbbd5$163634e0$927550cc@javin> "Javin Press" <[e-mail]> writes:

>My pro-51 would here week signals when the ICOM wouldn't hear anything at
>all, even with the squelch turned all the way down! Why is that? Is the
>receiver on my pro-51 more sensitive? I am thinking of buying and ICOM, but
>before I spend $500 on one, I would like to know what everyone thinks of the
>ICOM. Is it worth the $500 or so bucks?
>Is the receiver on the ICOM a good one? What are the ICOMs shortcomings?

I wouldn't pay more than $250 for the R1.  It's retail price is WAY
steep.  It is prone to intermod, overload and generally sucks unless
you want to use it in a remote and desolate place.  It's ONLY advantage
is that it is very small.  I am surprised that you found this
particular unit to not be very sensitive.  It's known to be pretty
sensitive.

David


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Evan Platt <[e-mail]> wrote in article
<[e-mail]>...
> What kind of antenna did they both have? The same antenna??

The ICOM just has it's rubberduck antenna, so did mine. I even tried
switching the two, but there was no improvement in the ICOM's reception!




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color="#000000">>...<br>> What kind of antenna did they both have? The
same antenna??<br><br>The ICOM just has it's rubberduck antenna, so did
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From [e-mail] Sat Oct 19 10:45:43 1996
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From: "Javin Press" <[e-mail]>
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David Horak <[e-mail]> wrote in article
<545fbh$[e-mail]>...
> In <01bbbbd5$163634e0$927550cc@javin> "Javin Press" <[e-mail]>
writes:
> I wouldn't pay more than $250 for the R1.  It's retail price is WAY
> steep.  It is prone to intermod, overload and generally sucks unless
> you want to use it in a remote and desolate place.  It's ONLY advantage
> is that it is very small.  I am surprised that you found this
> particular unit to not be very sensitive.  It's known to be pretty
> sensitive.
>
> David
>

So what your saying is, despite it being an "ICOM" and having full coverage
from 1 MHz to 1.3 GHz, it is still a piece of trash?  Where else can you get
a scanner that has that wide of a freq. range for under $500?  Don't get me
wrong, I'm not defending the ICOM, it's just that it seems that for all it
does, it would be worth the money!
By the way, what do you mean "intermod" and "overload"? I'm not to familiar
with the terms.  Thanks though for the feedback!


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writes:<br>> I wouldn't pay more than $250 for the R1.  It's retail
price is WAY<br>> steep.  It is prone to intermod, overload and
generally sucks unless<br>> you want to use it in a remote and desolate
place.  It's ONLY advantage<br>> is that it is very small.  I
am surprised that you found this<br>> particular unit to not be very
sensitive.  It's known to be pretty<br>> sensitive.<br>> <br>>
David<br>> <br><br>So what your saying is, despite it being an
"ICOM" and having full coverage from 1 MHz to 1.3 GHz, it is still
a piece of trash?  Where else can you get a scanner that has that wide
of a freq. range for under $500?  Don't get me wrong, I'm not defending
the ICOM, it's just that it seems that for all it does, it would be worth
the money!<br>By the way, what do you mean "intermod" and
"overload"? I'm not to familiar with the terms.  Thanks
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From [e-mail] Sat Oct 19 10:45:44 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Joseph Cardani )
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner,phl.scanner
Subject: ICOM CI-V Computer Command Manual Question
Date: Thu, 17 Oct 1996 18:29:47 GMT
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Hi,

Does anyone have the ICOM CI-V Computer Command Manual documenting the
commands to control the R-7000 series communications receiver? I am
specifically looking for the sample BASIC program that is included in
the manual that performs the control of the radio. When I called ICOM,
they stated that this program was not in the Manual. However I spoke
to several other sources that said it was in the ICOM manual. ICOM may
have taken it out of the new version of the manual.

Any help would be greately appreciated!

Joe Cardani



From [e-mail] Sat Oct 19 10:45:45 1996
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From: Bryan Winstead <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Idiot Embargo
Date: Fri, 11 Oct 1996 22:37:04 -0500
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A Modest Proposal:

I've followed this guy's drivel for months.
This is my first and last post on the subject.
I suggest that nobody respond to this pathetic waste.
Zilch. Nuttin'. No matter how he tries to get yer goat.
Which, I suspect, would be from behind. Personally,
I sadistically look forward to everyone ignoring him
until that joyous day when he responds to himself.
Then continues ... and continues ... and continues ...
until finally he kills himself.


From [e-mail] Sat Oct 19 10:45:46 1996
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From: (Copper Penny)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Illinois Frequencies
Date: Sat, 12 Oct 1996 16:08:06 GMT
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On Sat, 12 Oct 1996 09:58:40 -0700, French <[e-mail]> wrote:

>I'm looking for some scanner frequencies for central Illinois
>Madison,Jersey,and Green counties. Any help would be appreciated.
Try out this web site, I think you will find it very helpfull.

www.li.net/~j4dice/links.html

Happy Scanning,

Copper Penny.


From [e-mail] Sat Oct 19 10:45:47 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Marc Klopert)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Is there a scan speedup mod. for the 2022 ??
Date: 16 Oct 1996 22:56:02 GMT
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Jeff 352 ([e-mail]) wrote:
:   Yes there is a mod for this. Find the ceramic resonator
: (a little blue chip) on the main board behind the front
: panel and replace it with a 3-4 mhz. crystal. The original
: resonator is about 1.7 mhz. so by replacing it with a 3.4
: mhz. resonator you will double the speed. I replaced mine
: with a 5 mhz. but that has proven to be a little too fast
: for scanning some freqs. (it will scan so fast it wont stop
: on a active freq.) So I would recomend a 3.4 mhz. or so.
: You can special order the crystal from R.S.

Why special order anything?..a 3.58(3.579545 really) colorburst crystal
should be ok-the shack should have it, and it will be cheap



From [e-mail] Sat Oct 19 10:45:48 1996
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From: Bobby Irvin <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: It's only a test
Date: Tue, 15 Oct 1996 06:55:16 -0500
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Sorry, but since the alt.test group is not available from this server, I
needed to use one that was.
-----------------
Bobby Irvin
[e-mail]
-----------------


From [e-mail] Sat Oct 19 10:45:48 1996
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From: John Mackey KA0SSF <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: John Mackey / Bill Cheek
Date: Thu, 10 Oct 1996 20:46:13 -0700
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[e-mail] wrote:


> Interesting analogy.  however, if Cheek is only taking a vacation, he
> will come back full force, no matter how much persistance.  If he has
> stopped participating, then there is no need to carry this on.  I am
> wondering why he has stopped...  Did he decide to try the truce idea?


Perhaps the time HAS come to try a truce again!




From [e-mail] Sat Oct 19 10:45:50 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Bill Cheek)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: John Mackey / Bill Cheek
Date: Fri, 11 Oct 1996 14:57:12 GMT
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Stephen Giessinger <[e-mail]> wrote:

>Isn't anyone else tired of seeing half the newsgroup postings coming from
>one of these two?

Why don't you COUNT the posts first?




From [e-mail] Sat Oct 19 10:45:50 1996
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From: John Mackey KA0SSF <[e-mail]>
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How come you don't want people to know your address at globalserve?




From [e-mail] Sat Oct 19 10:45:51 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Dr Pepper)
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On Thu, 10 Oct 1996 13:08:27 -0700, John Mackey KA0SSF
<[e-mail]> wrote:

>Patrick D. Lukens wrote:
>
>> John Mackey KA0SSF wrote:
snipppy dee deeeee

WoW! Agent .99 works great !  I just killfiled mackay and cheek.
What a pleasure not to see that clutter up the ng anymore :-}
>



From [e-mail] Sat Oct 19 10:45:52 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Tony White)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Ken Winters' D/FW Frequency List -- is it available in a text file?
Date: 16 Oct 1996 02:38:02 GMT
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I've seen several copies of Ken Winters' _D/FW Frequency List_ in several
locations around the area.  I notice, though, that the publisher is "Basic
Computer Services" or something like that -- and on the last page of the list
there is handwritten (and copied into the book) the following statement: "For
updates on all frequencies connect to the Cowtown BBS at 817-xxx-xxxx."

What I want to know is -- is the entire list available as a textfile?  I
prefer not to have the printed material, and the ability to print out only
what I want to use.

If not, does Ken Winters have an email address?



From [e-mail] Sat Oct 19 10:45:53 1996
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From: Steve Carter <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Kill Files
Date: Wed, 16 Oct 1996 07:37:00 -0500
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This may seem off topic, but since it's this newsgroup I'd like to us it
on, fill me in on KillFiles.  I think I could put to use what they do.
Does anyone know if Netscape has kill file ability, and how to do it?
Steve


From [e-mail] Sat Oct 19 10:45:54 1996
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Subject: Re: LAPD knocked off the air
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Isn't the Portland system hooked with Multinomah County?  I hadn't known
the problems were still happening.

Karl

[e-mail]

PS. My suggestion for LA is to get your local-officers pager number to use
for the next time the system crashes.  Of course, the first suggestion
would be to become well-armed, but I think everyone has already done that.



From [e-mail] Sat Oct 19 10:45:55 1996
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From: [e-mail] (PVBoy33)
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Subject: Re: LAPD knocked off the air
Date: 14 Oct 1996 05:55:36 -0400
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[e-mail] (Brent Corbin) wrote:

> The statewide system used to belong to the California State Police,
> until it was disbanded a litle while back.  In southern Ca,
> the repeaters sit on 460.375.  In central and northern Ca, the
> repeaters sit on 460.450 - except in the Bay Area, where the freq
> is 453.825.  A variety of state enforcement operations use the
> system with the CHP playing net control (not all the users are
> happy with the new arrangement, but that's another can o' worms).

Two errors I wish to correct (no offense intended Brent).
1) The correct frequency for north state is 460.425
2) Central and Nor Cal are dispatched on 460.375 with 460.425 as
secondary, investigations, and Governor's Security

regards,
[e-mail]




From [e-mail] Sat Oct 19 10:45:56 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Brent Corbin)
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Subject: Re: LAPD knocked off the air
Date: 14 Oct 1996 18:47:45 GMT
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Karl Dahlquist ([e-mail]) wrote:

: Isn't the Portland system hooked with Multinomah County?  I hadn't known
: the problems were still happening.

: Karl

: [e-mail]

: PS. My suggestion for LA is to get your local-officers pager number to use
: for the next time the system crashes.  Of course, the first suggestion
: would be to become well-armed, but I think everyone has already done that.


Ok - this is admittedly off topic a bit, but as a current resident of LA,
the absolutely *LAST* thing I want is a bunch of well-armed citizens walking
the streets...



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Brent Corbin wrote:
>
> Karl Dahlquist ([e-mail]) wrote:
>
> : Isn't the Portland system hooked with Multinomah County?  I hadn't known
> : the problems were still happening.
>
> : Karl
>
> : [e-mail]
>
> : PS. My suggestion for LA is to get your local-officers pager number to use
> : for the next time the system crashes.  Of course, the first suggestion
> : would be to become well-armed, but I think everyone has already done that.
>
> Ok - this is admittedly off topic a bit, but as a current resident of LA,
> the absolutely *LAST* thing I want is a bunch of well-armed citizens walking
> the streets...

Oh, so you prefer a bunch of well-armed burglars roaming the 'hood instead?

Good thinking...


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From: Curtis Wheeler <[e-mail]>
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Brent Corbin wrote:
>
> Karl Dahlquist ([e-mail]) wrote:
>
> : Isn't the Portland system hooked with Multinomah County?  I hadn't known
> : the problems were still happening.
>
> : Karl
>
> : [e-mail]
>
> : PS. My suggestion for LA is to get your local-officers pager number to use
> : for the next time the system crashes.  Of course, the first suggestion
> : would be to become well-armed, but I think everyone has already done that.
>
> Ok - this is admittedly off topic a bit, but as a current resident of LA,
> the absolutely *LAST* thing I want is a bunch of well-armed citizens walking
> the streets...

As a former resident of LA county - I'd say it may be just what the city
needs...

--
Curtis


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From: [e-mail] (Brent Corbin)
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PVBoy33 ([e-mail]) wrote:

: Two errors I wish to correct (no offense intended Brent).
: 1) The correct frequency for north state is 460.425
: 2) Central and Nor Cal are dispatched on 460.375 with 460.425 as
: secondary, investigations, and Governor's Security

Absolutely none taken 8*)  I don't live in NoCal anymore, and took my
information from a copy of the CSP's radio manual, dated 28 May 1992.
Things *do* change...

Thanks for the correction!  //Brent




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In article <53u1sh$[e-mail]>, [e-mail]
(Brent Corbin) writes:

>
>Ok - this is admittedly off topic a bit, but as a current resident of LA,
>the absolutely *LAST* thing I want is a bunch of well-armed citizens
walking
>the streets...

You're confused.
Well-armed citizens protect us from the well armed crooks.
The Supreme court has said that the police have absolutely no
responsibilty to protect you.
Gof figure.
                             cheers


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From: "Todd L. Sherman" <[e-mail]>
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Questions:

I'm aware that its legal to monitor things in the 46 to 49 MHz PORTABLE
phone bands (but not cellular), and that it is NOT legal to divulge what you
hear on those bands.

Queries are:

1)  Where are those laws in the Code? and what is their exact wording?

2)  What if you hear a neighbor talking on his portable phone, bragging to
friends or girlfriends about such illegal things as (hypothetically),
shooting my pet kitty with a pellet gun and killing it one day and, buying
30 grams of (this) drug and (that) drug on (this) day and to bring (this
much money) to cover it at (this) place? and things said such like, say,
"This stuff is REALLY great, man...I mean...LISTEN to how this stuff sounds
when it burns!...(crackling noise)"?

3) Are those things legal to report to the POLICE, if not the public? or
would it be ruled out as evidence due to a technicality?

4) And what would happen if someone warned a neighbor that I am monitoring
to give him fair warning, and as a last ditch, no other way, effort to get
him to stop harrassing and the like.

...All this "hypothetically," of course.

Todd

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From [e-mail] Sat Oct 19 10:46:01 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Art Burke)
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Subject: Re: Laws on monitoring
Date: Wed, 16 Oct 1996 21:19:31 GMT
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Listen to what you want.  Could you imagine the moronic look on the
faces of people "busting you" for listening to a baby whine on 49mhz?
What a joke the legal system has become.

AP Math and Music Instruction
From Arithmetic to College Level Mathematics

See My Homepage:
http://www.radix.net/~mathtutor


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From: [e-mail] (Dr Pepper)
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On Wed, 16 Oct 1996 12:45:53 -0400, "Todd L. Sherman"
<[e-mail]> wrote:

>On Wed, 16 Oct 1996, Steve Work wrote:
>
>> Brian J. Rueger ([e-mail]) wrote:
>>
>> : Several folks on this group have asked a question about overhearing menti
on
>> : of illegal activity while (illegally) monitoring the cellular band.  Now,
 I
>> : am not a lawyer but I do have a BS degree in Criminal Justice and I know
a
>> : little about the law.  When I first read this question, I remembered back
 to
>> : my college days and having read a section in one of my case law books.
>> : Also, let me point out that this book is copyright is 1975 and the case
>> : involved was in 1921.  So, things may have changed, but I doubt they have
.

BOY ARE YOU WRONG ! !
Things have changed just in the five years! Congress passed a law
about listening to cellular AND portable phone calls. They did
this when a Congressman got caught with his fly open over a
portable phone.
>>
>
snippy de deeeee

Dr Pepper
10 - 2 - 4
Good Anytime


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From: [e-mail] (D Stark)
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In article <[e-mail]>, "Todd
L. Sherman" <[e-mail]> wrote:

>  That's twice now that people have read my bolded "PORTABLE
>TELEPHONE/MONITOR frequencies" and inserted "CELLULAR."
>
>  This is about the 44 to 49 MHz PORTABLE telephone (you know, with
>portable handset and the base) and the baby monitor bands, people; NOT the
>800 to 900 MHz, encrypted communication CELLULAR bands.  Again...NOT NOT NOT
>about the CELLULAR bands.

Cellular calls are not generally encrypted.  That's why we
have a stupid law like ECPA in the first place.

>  It's legal to monitor the 44 to 49 MHz freqs as far as I am aware.  HAS

No, no, no, a thousand times NO.  It is NOT LEGAL TO MONITOR
ANY MOBILE OR PORTABLE TELEPHONE CALLS IN THE UNITED
STATES!!!  Cordless and cellular are both covered by ECPA
(Title 18 Sections 2510-2520 inclusive of the United States
Code) as of 1994.  Get it straight. READ the statute, for
cryin' out loud.  It's all there in black and white.





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From: [e-mail] (PVBoy33)
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Dr Pepper (who has reprimanded me on a similar topic) wrote:

> EXAMPLE:
> (hypothetically) I hear a conversation between a neighbor talking
> to his broker. He gives him his social security number, account
> numbers, bank account numbers, dollar amounts in savings, the
> whole enchilada.  What do I do about it?
> NOTHING !
> WHY?
> Because he would be REALLY pissed about me listening in, and would
> not focus on my attempt to point out the dangers of doing what he
> did. AND MOST LIKELY he would report ME for listening in to his
> conversations. do not pass go, do not collect 100 dollars, go
> straight to JAIL!!

Not only that, but you will have set yourself up for a civil suit against
you by the neighbor, and that, my friends, would not be a pretty situation
to be in just because you can't keep it in the public safety band...

[e-mail]


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For the ulitmate in paradox, did you realize that easedropping law
prohibits audio recording BUT NOT VIDEO!   In most states an employer can
Videotape with a concealed camera, but can not record sound.

I can speak as a investigator;  the police can't use evidence illegally
obtained (recording via scanner) but can sure as hell start an
investigation.  There are LOTS of cases that have been tested on this
point.

Sven



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Todd L. Sherman wrote:
> 1)  Where are those laws in the Code? and what is their exact wording?

The laws are different from state to state.  If you live in California
there is an online law library that lists all of the law codes for
California.  Check my web page for the web address.

> 2)  What if you hear a neighbor talking on his portable phone, bragging to
> friends or girlfriends about such illegal things as (hypothetically),
> shooting my pet kitty with a pellet gun and killing it one day and, buying
> 30 grams of (this) drug and (that) drug on (this) day and to bring (this
> much money) to cover it at (this) place? and things said such like, say,
> "This stuff is REALLY great, man...I mean...LISTEN to how this stuff sounds
> when it burns!...(crackling noise)"?
>
> 3) Are those things legal to report to the POLICE, if not the public? or
> would it be ruled out as evidence due to a technicality?
>
> 4) And what would happen if someone warned a neighbor that I am monitoring
> to give him fair warning, and as a last ditch, no other way, effort to get
> him to stop harrassing and the like.
>

Since it's illegal to pass on information gained through monitoring
these
freqs (assuming it is in your area) then your breaking the law if you do
so.
Then again .. it's illegal to carry a concealed weapon, but I know
several
people who do so anyway because if it saves your life it's worth paying
the
penalty for breaking that law.  If your neighbor is breaking the law,
you
always have the option of informing the authoritys anonomously (sp?).

--
________________________________
[e-mail]
http://www.westworld.com/~justus


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From: [e-mail] (Jeff Kalikstein)
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Subject: Listening to remote phones
Date: 11 Oct 1996 11:40:50 GMT
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I have been trying to find the right frequency for the remote phone on my
home.  I have found two frequency ranges (when then phone is on the same
channel): one around 49.7 mHz and one around 49.9 mHz.  Both channels,
however only recieve simplex from the phone.  Should their be a duplex
channel?  Or if not, what should be the offsett for the frequency from the
base to the phone?


Thanks alot
--
 ______________________
|   Jeff Kalikstein    |
|http://westnet.com/~jk|
 ----------------------


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On 10/11/96 6:40AM, in message <53lbo2$[e-mail]>, Jeff
Kalikstein <[e-mail]> wrote:

> I have been trying to find the right frequency for the remote phone on my
> home.  I have found two frequency ranges (when then phone is on the same
> channel): one around 49.7 mHz and one around 49.9 mHz.  Both channels,
> however only recieve simplex from the phone.  Should their be a duplex
> channel?  Or if not, what should be the offsett for the frequency from the
> base to the phone?
>
>
> Thanks alot
> --
>  ______________________
> |   Jeff Kalikstein    |
> |http://westnet.com/~jk|
>  ----------------------
Try 46.610 to 46.990



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Subject: Live ATC comms via Real Audio
Date: 14 Oct 1996 13:27:24 GMT
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Could someone please repost the message about the live ATC comms via Real
Audio?  It was deleted from my server.

Thanks in advance,

David


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From: [e-mail] (Bob Horvath)
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"David Schoenberger" <[e-mail]> wrote:

>Could someone please repost the message about the live ATC comms via Real
>Audio?  It was deleted from my server.
>
>Thanks in advance,
>
>David


www.audionet.com/simuflite               (Dallas)

www.cyberair.com/audio/chiapp/index.html     (Ohare)

These were as I copied from the Usenet Posting


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From: "Robert H. Eisner" <[e-mail]>
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David Schoenberger wrote:
>
> Could someone please repost the message about the live ATC comms via Real
> Audio?  It was deleted from my server.
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> David

Here it is again:

Check out the following WEB sites:

Live audio feed from the Dallas/Fort Worth (DFW) Air Traffic Control:

  http://www.audionet.com/simuflite/

Live audio feed from the Chicago O'Hare (ORD) Air Traffic Control:

  http://www.cyberair.com/audio/chiapp/index.html

Frequency and Navigation information for all US Airports:

  http://www.cc.gatech.edu/db1/fly/airport-info.html


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David Schoenberger wrote:
>
> Could someone please repost the message about the live ATC comms via Real
> Audio?  It was deleted from my server.
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> DavidTry Dallas Ft.Worth ATC at:
http://www.audionet.com/simuflite/
--
Gary Beck
[e-mail]
http://fly.hiwaay.net/~gmb/index.html


From [e-mail] Sat Oct 19 10:46:14 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Ned412)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Looking for Parts for Kenwood TK-930 Series
Date: 12 Oct 1996 06:06:18 -0400
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I have 3 of these radios that I used for my business.  I removed them from
the vehicles before I sold them but the antenna's went with the trucks.
Where can I get new antennas and the connectors that go with them.?

I don't plan on using the trunking feature anymore.  Just the talk around
feature for my personal use.

Thanx,

Ned....   :-)


From [e-mail] Sat Oct 19 10:46:15 1996
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From: KIRK MCDONALD <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: Looking for Pro 2006
Date: Sun, 13 Oct 1996 02:03:57 -0400
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[e-mail] wrote:
>
> I heard someone on this group was selling a few Pro 2006's.
>
> I would like to get one if the person could contact me.
>
> e-mail me @ [e-mail]
>
> Thanks
>
> Ryan
>
> `[1;36;45mNet-Tamer V 1.06 - Test Drive

Look in Rec.Radio.Swap,  and Rec.Radio.CB newsgroups. you'll find it in
both groups.


From [e-mail] Sat Oct 19 10:46:16 1996
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From: Barry <[e-mail]>
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Subject: looking for secret service freqs
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Im hoping someone can help me out on finding the Secret Service freqs
used during the presidential campain?


thanks,
Barry


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From: [e-mail] (Jeff Zeman)
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Barry <[e-mail]> wrote:

>Im hoping someone can help me out on finding the Secret Service freqs
>used during the presidential campain?

Barry try here. This is a good list
http://www.zianet.com/kc5kto/fedfrqs/secserv.frq





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From: Harold Holmes <[e-mail]>
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Good fed file freq listings at http://rever.nmsu.edu/~weasel
or try www.zianet.com/kc5kto/scanner.html
They have very good freq listings plus links to scanner stuff.
good luck.


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From: [e-mail] (Tomcat305)
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Subject: Looking for some Good Coast Guard Freqs.
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If anybody has a good list to send me please would you do that?  I will
eschange freqs to!


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From: [e-mail] (Clay Irving)
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Subject: Re: Looking for some Good Coast Guard Freqs.
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In <546h96$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Tomcat305) writes:

>If anybody has a good list to send me please would you do that?  I will
>eschange freqs to!

Try: http://www.panix.com/~clay/scanning/frequencies/maritime.shtml

--
Clay Irving N2VKG
[e-mail]
http://www.panix.com/~clay/


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From: [e-mail] (Jimmy Simmons)
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Subject: Re: Luke AFB frequencies needed!
Date: 17 Oct 1996 00:51:01 -0500
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Roy Schahrer ([e-mail]) wrote:
: Steve Garber <[e-mail]> wrote:
:
: >I'd appreciate hearing about any frequencies used at Luke.
:
: Luke AFB can be found at: LAFB PD 173.4875
:                                   165.0875
:                                   163.4857
:                                   164.4875
:                           OSI Ch1 138.1750
:                               Ch2 138.0750
:                               Ch3 138.1850

  These are common frequencies used at a majority of the installations
 US and some Worldwide...  My base shows that these are the freqs for
the SP Squadron, and AFOSI too, but guess what?  They aren't...  They
upgraded...

  Best thing to do is make contact with the Base Frequency Cordinator(sp)
and request a copy of the frequencies used over the base...  If you approach
the person NCOIC, in the right way, you should be able to get access to this
information..  If he isn't able to give you the list, find out if there is
an Amateur Radio Club on the base, goto a meeting, get in good with them find
the ones who are scanning enthsiest(Sp) most are/were, they should have an
up-to-date list, just like I do for Keesler AFB, here in Mississippi...

    The NeXus!
--
|=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=|
|The NeXus, [e-mail]  www.datasync.com/nexus|
|=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=|


From [e-mail] Sat Oct 19 10:46:21 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Flatted5th)
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Subject: Mackey The Victor?
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Well I'll be dipped in shit! No matter what you think of John Mackey, you
got to admit one thing. Hes the first one in a long list to get Cheek to
shut the fuck up! For that alone the boy should be applauded. I know the
truth about Bill Cheek and it aint pretty, so Im real glad hes finally got
the message. Adios Billy boy!  (remember the great coax scam of '88?  Ha!!
 What a con. I bet your still living high off that one)


From [e-mail] Sat Oct 19 10:46:22 1996
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From: [e-mail](George L. Vetterle)
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In <5438mn$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Flatted5th)
writes:
>
>Well I'll be dipped in shit! No matter what you think of John Mackey,
you
>got to admit one thing. Hes the first one in a long list to get Cheek
to
>shut the fuck up! For that alone the boy should be applauded. I know
the
>truth about Bill Cheek and it aint pretty, so Im real glad hes finally
got
>the message. Adios Billy boy!  (remember the great coax scam of '88?
Ha!!
> What a con. I bet your still living high off that one)

Well Mr. Flatulence of the 5th degree,

If you know the truth about Bill Cheek, tell it and while you're at it,
sign your name and quit hiding behind the AOL screen name.  Give
yourself a little credibility.
--
--
George Vetterle
[e-mail]

"I don't mind if you don't like my manners.  I don't like them myself.
They're pretty bad.  I grieve over them on long winter evenings."-Phillip
Marlowe, THE BIG SLEEP (WB, 1946)



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From: Larry Wilson
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Flatted5th wrote ...
> Well I'll be dipped in shit!

Quite sure you are. Not just dipped but full of. You stink awful bad.

> No matter what you think of John Mackey, you got to admit one thing.

What, he is a Idiot? Yep, most will admit he certainly is. Not to
mention coward, liar and head Idiot. Oh yea, Micor and PS destoyer.

> Hes the first one in a long list to get Cheek to shut the f**k up!

You seemed confused. Cheek quit responding to the Idiot Mackey. Now you next.
Why you sound just like Idiot Mackey? Must be PJB. Your AOL membership say it
all.
That be gone soon too. You just flame troller. Nice try we all laugh lots now.

Larry Wilson
IMackey Watch



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From: John Mackey KA0SSF <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: Mackey's Verbosity
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LWilson wrote:

> I do post my real name. Can't you read headers

"LWilson" is not a real name, fool.


> I don't have a call

Just wondering.
It speaks for your credibility.


> No E-mail good for the IDIOT Mackey, good for me. So what?

I have NEVER hid my e-mail address.


> You are still the IDIOT Mackey.

And you're still a FOOL.

hehehheheheheehhaahahahahahahhaahhoohhohoohho




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From: John Mackey KA0SSF <[e-mail]>
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LWilson wrote:

> Full name, header say LWilson and signature Larry Idiot

You signature is Larry Idiot!!

you are named well.




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From: [e-mail] (Bud Jamison)
Date: 11 Oct 96 16:54:00
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Subject: Re: Mackey's Verbosity
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L> The IDIOT Mackey talks but is just a little girly boy hiding behind a fake
L> mailer. He knows he could never hold onto an account if he posted by normal
L> means. Everything the IDIOT posts is a reflection of himself. He has

Fido netmail to 1:105/40 will get to him.  It's also a good bet that a cc to
the sysop there, Bill George (MacKey is a point off him) will have some
effect.

... I SWEAR I thought she was 18!


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From: [e-mail] (BILL WATTS)
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-=> Quoting John Mackey Ka0ssf to All <=-

 JMK> hehehheheheheehhaahahahahahahhaahhoohhohoohho

When I lived on Cape Cod we used to hear a waterfowl
that made a noise like a madman laughing. It is called
a LOON. I guess they live in Oregon, too.

... Bill Watts  ex-Cape Codder  [e-mail]



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From: [e-mail] (Richard Kendrick)
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John Mackey KA0SSF <[e-mail]> wrote:

>>LWilson wrote:

>> I don't have a call


>It speaks for your credibility.


Whether or not a person has an amateur radio license has nothing to do
with his credibility. For all you know Mackey, he could be in the process of
earning his license. As usual, no forethought on your part before your
mouth vomits hyperbole.


Richard Kendrick CET WA7TWI           |
Amateur Radio Extra Class             |  Do not adjust your mind, there
QRP #4129/G-QRP #8591/MI-QRP #M-1412  |  is a fault in reality.
Mesa, AZ  email: [e-mail]  |



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From: John Mackey KA0SSF <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: Mackey's Verbosity
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Rudolph Valentino wrote:

> Personally, I think you're full of shit, and I don't care for how you've
> dragged your personal problems with others into this ng.  That's what

Then don't click on the damm threads FOOL.


Why don't you just put Bill & I into a Kill file. It is a excellent
alternative.  That is what I did with Blake Bowers & it works great.




From [e-mail] Sat Oct 19 10:46:28 1996
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From: John Mackey KA0SSF <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Mackey's Verbosity
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Bud Jamison wrote:
> Fido netmail to 1:105/40 will get to him.  It's also a good bet that a cc to

Yea, I *THOUGHT* that was common knowledge.  My fidonet address is
listed
in just about ALL the online directories & ham radio e-mail directories.


> the sysop there, Bill George (MacKey is a point off him) will have some effe
ct.

Yea Bud that makes a lot of sense.  You don't like something I did
on Internet so you make the complaint to my Fidonet system.




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From: [e-mail] (Richard Kendrick)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Mackey's Verbosity
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[e-mail] (Neil Bell) wrote:

[ snip ]

>If Mackey can't use hyperbole or profanity .. well, he couldn't write.
>I think he gets a cheap thrill because he is so jealous of Bill Cheeks
>success and his lack thereof.

That is the same conclusion I've arrived at. It's like Mackey thinks Bill Chee
k
is the local gunslinger in town and to make a name for himself, he has to
blow Bill away. Whether or not Mackey has any technical talent remains
to be seen. Bill, at least has three books to his credit that have been fairly
well received by scanner and radio types. So far, all Mackey has given us
is flatulence and a few chuckles watching his prepubescent tantrums.



Richard Kendrick CET WA7TWI           |
Amateur Radio Extra Class             |  Do not adjust your mind, there
QRP #4129/G-QRP #8591/MI-QRP #M-1412  |  is a fault in reality.
Mesa, AZ  email: [e-mail]  |



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From: "John..Mackey..KA0SSF" <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: Mackey's Verbosity
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Neil Bell wrote:
> I think he gets a cheap thrill because he is so jealous of Bill Cheeks
> success and his lack thereof.

What's there to be jealous of???


From [e-mail] Sat Oct 19 10:46:31 1996
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From: "Patrick D. Lukens" <[e-mail]>
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BAYCITVIDGRP wrote:
>       Enter the IDIOT OF MACKEY into your killfile or allow him to
>       speak to himself from this point forward.  There is nothing he
>       has to say that he is worthy of the body politic here.  He is
>       a permanent "left-field".  He's a redundant "never been".
>
>       Quit giving this lunacy space.  Once you do this you give him
>       reason to continue his ACT.  KILLFILE him or ignore him. That
>       will make him "a legend in his own mind"......

Good idea.  I just cancelled a reply to one of his posts.  It is time to
ignore the mess....

>       bill conduit
>       etc.

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From [e-mail] Sat Oct 19 10:46:33 1996
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Subject: Re: Mackey's Verbosity
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In <[e-mail]> "John..Mackey..KA0SSF"
<[e-mail]> writes:
>
>Neil Bell wrote:
>> I think he gets a cheap thrill because he is so jealous of Bill
Cheeks
>> success and his lack thereof.
>
>What's there to be jealous of???


     to the IDIOT OF MACKEY.....

     say what?

     he (idiot of mackey) gets off on replies, no matter the subject
     or the inference.  He lives for replies...orgasmic in scope.  He
     needs your rejection and despisement and lucidity about his
     lineage living under a rock deep in the pig pen feeding/swilling
     area.

     there is a saying in gestalt which I got from EST....

     "what you resist...persists".   AS long as we continue to resist
      this aberrancy, he will continue.  If we just refer him to go to
      alt.angst...then we allow him no more fodder.

      For my part...the IDIOT OF MACKEY is off my lines to read.  I
       will use the KILLFILE option.  His posts are boring and rather
       child-like in tone and reach.  He has no point of view and he
       keeps his name before us because we think he listens to reason.

      Enter the IDIOT OF MACKEY into your killfile or allow him to
      speak to himself from this point forward.  There is nothing he
      has to say that he is worthy of the body politic here.  He is
      a permanent "left-field".  He's a redundant "never been".

      Quit giving this lunacy space.  Once you do this you give him
      reason to continue his ACT.  KILLFILE him or ignore him. That
      will make him "a legend in his own mind"......

      bill conduit
      etc.


From [e-mail] Sat Oct 19 10:46:33 1996
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From: "Steve Olmstead" <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Memory Failure --- BC 350A ????
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Hello and thanks for reading this message.

I have a Bearcat 350A mobile scanner mounted in my car and about once a
month the scanner loses all of it's programmed channels.  Is there anyone
who has had a similar problem with the 350A??  If so,  what can be done to
remedy the problem??  Any suggestions are welcome.

Steve Olmstead
Fostoria, Ohio  USA
[e-mail]
http://www.bright.net/~solmst/


From [e-mail] Sat Oct 19 10:46:34 1996
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On 18 Oct 1996 01:23:54 GMT, "Steve Olmstead" <[e-mail]>
wrote:

>Hello and thanks for reading this message.
>
>I have a Bearcat 350A mobile scanner mounted in my car and about once a
>month the scanner loses all of it's programmed channels.  Is there anyone
>who has had a similar problem with the 350A??  If so,  what can be done to
>remedy the problem??  Any suggestions are welcome.
>
>Steve Olmstead
>Fostoria, Ohio  USA
>[e-mail]
>http://www.bright.net/~solmst/

Had a similar problem with a Bearcat, but not the 350A.  The only way
I found to solve the problem was to wire it directly to a 12 volt
source that was NOT switched on with the ignition.  I suspect that
switching it on with the ignition caused some type of transient that
trashed the memory.  A bit of a pain cause I have to remember to turn
it off but if I forget it's no big deal since it don't draw enough
current to hurt the battery.  Anyway it's better than reprograming
once a month.

Art



From [e-mail] Sat Oct 19 10:46:35 1996
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From: Tom Montgomery <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Mil Air Antennas
Date: Thu, 17 Oct 1996 15:41:42 -0700
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I saw an ad in October's MT for a fellow that is selling aircraft blade
antennas for the 225-440 range. I am really interested in one of these
and was wondering if anyone on the list has purchased one, how best to
mount, and general comments. Also would like e-mail address of this
fellow if anyone has one. His name is Don....

Thanks very much..

Monty

[e-mail]


From [e-mail] Sat Oct 19 10:46:36 1996
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From: [e-mail]
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Subject: Mod for Bearcat
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Okay, this is probably flame-bait, but I'd thought I would ask
this before buying a new/used $200+ scanner...

Is there any 'hope' for a lowly Uniden Bearcat BC60XLT-1?

I am not asking for a cell mod or a 512+ expansion (which is my
scanner's limit), but is there any hope for adding more channels,
or adding a few bands that might be reachable in your scanner but
not in mine?

If not, oh well, that '3000 sounds good, only if I could find
a decent place to buy it in the Chicagoland area...

Any bit o help is appreciated...

Tom
[e-mail]

P.S.  If you haven't figured it out, I am new to this...


From [e-mail] Sat Oct 19 10:46:37 1996
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From: "E. Scott Sykes" <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Mods For Radio Shack Scanner PRO 2042
Date: Sat, 12 Oct 1996 09:40:41 -0300
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Bill Cheek wrote:
>
> "E. Scott Sykes" <[e-mail]> wrote:
>
> >Bill Cheek wrote:
> >>
> >> [e-mail] (Chuck Slaten) wrote:
> >>
> >> >Does anyone have the Mods for the New Radio Shack 2042 Scanner.
> >> >If so please leave a reply..Thanks de KB8PDR
> >>
> >> "The" mods?  Which "ones" do you mean?  Cellular?  Not possible.
> >> What else?
>
> >Optoelectronics OS535 is a MOD and will allow cellular when computer
> >controlled.
>
> Oh no it won't!  That would be illegal for them to peddle it that way.

True cellular capability is not available to the 2042 and the 2035
without an OS535. Therefore "oh yes it does"! It is legal for them to
"peddle" it that way for authorized or government users, but they don't.

> If there are "unlock" codes for the software, fine....but the user
> won't know how to get them.

All they have to do is ask. The information is routinely available in
this news group and some software providers deliver it without question.

> And besides, hundreds of bucks for a cellular mod?  You've got to be
>kidding?

Hundreds of bucks = $199 as of about 3 weeks ago. 1(800)327-5912. See
the Ad in the Sept. 96 Monitoring Times edition, the inside cover.
The OS535 and the OS456 adds a whole lot more to the scanner than any
other scanner interface commercially available at this time.
>
> Also.....Mr. Slaten asked for "the mods" for the 2042.  That strongly
> implies he wasn't looking for a commercial thingamabob.
>

If you open the case and add, change, move, remove, or otherwise modify
the scanner the act itself then becomes a modification and the scanner
has been modified. The installing of the OS535 (commercial thingamabob)
will accomplish the above.

(Case closed)

Scott


From [e-mail] Sat Oct 19 10:46:38 1996
From: [e-mail] (Jonathan Clough)
Subject: Re: Mods For Radio Shack Scanner PRO 2042
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Hi Scott,

> True cellular capability is not available to the 2042 and the 2035
> without an OS535. Therefore "oh yes it does"! It is legal for them to

Not wishing to disturb the hornets nest the PRO-2035 that was sold by RS
outside the USA and Canadian distribution system and the PRO-2042 that is
about to do so do receive full 800MHz coverage by using different main IC's.


--
Cheers,
JC.
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From [e-mail] Sat Oct 19 10:46:39 1996
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Im looking for a used motorola mtx 8000/838 b7 800 mghz portable im
in the toronto area email me if you have 1 at [e-mail]






From [e-mail] Sat Oct 19 10:46:40 1996
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Hoi

Zijn hier ook nederlanders die deze lijst lezen


From [e-mail] Sat Oct 19 10:46:41 1996
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mister X ([e-mail]) wrote:
: Hoi

: Zijn hier ook nederlanders die deze lijst lezen

i don't agree. i think Ginger was foxier.

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From [e-mail] Sat Oct 19 10:46:42 1996
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On Thu, 17 Oct 1996 12:28:33 -0700, mister X <[e-mail]>
wrote:

>Hoi
>
>Zijn hier ook nederlanders die deze lijst lezen

Jazeker, ook voor Nederlanders is hier zat info te halen. En anders
wel op mijn Homepage (zie signature).

Groeten,


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From: d
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need for Avr software and drives scanner.
Please contact me to : [e-mail]



From [e-mail] Sat Oct 19 10:46:44 1996
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From: "Javin Press" <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Need Mods for Pro-51 and ICOM R1
Date: 16 Oct 1996 21:52:19 GMT
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I was wondering if anyone has the DEC 1994 issue of Monitoring Times.
In it, an article titled "Bob's tips and tricks", has some Mods for the
pro-51 scanner
(not 2,9,L\O).  If anyone has this article, please let me know!
Also, does anyone have the CELL mods for the pro-34 scanner, and the ICOM R1
receiver. The ICOM has coverage from 1 MHz to 1300 MHz, but the whole 800
MHz is blocked. Is there a code to "unlock" this block?
Any answers can be posted on to this message, or e-mailed to me at
[e-mail]
                                                Thanks in advance.

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<html><head></head><BODY><p><font size=2 color="#000000" face="Arial">I was
wondering if anyone has the DEC 1994 issue of Monitoring Times.<br>In it, an
article titled "Bob's tips and tricks", has some Mods for the
pro-51 scanner <br>(not 2,9,L\O).  If anyone has this article, please
let me know!<br>Also, does anyone have the CELL mods for the pro-34 scanner,
and the ICOM R1 receiver. The ICOM has coverage from 1 MHz to 1300 MHz, but
the whole 800 MHz is blocked. Is there a code to "unlock" this
block?<br>Any answers can be posted on to this message, or e-mailed to me at
[e-mail]<br>						Thanks in
advance.<br><br></p>
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From [e-mail] Sat Oct 19 10:46:45 1996
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Subject: Need Pro 2040 Mods.
Date: Sat, 12 Oct 1996 22:42:40 GMT
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Please, can I modify this scanner for full 800 mhz?



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On Sat, 12 Oct 1996 22:42:40 GMT, [e-mail]
(Quixote) wrote:

>Please, can I modify this scanner for full 800 mhz?
>
Come on someone out there must know if this rig can be modified or
not, I would also like to know.
Please help.


From [e-mail] Sat Oct 19 10:46:46 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Tom Howley)
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Subject: Re: Need Pro 2040 Mods.
Date: 13 Oct 96 17:22:16 GMT
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I had one of these radio's for a few weeks.  I did an exhaustive search
through dejanews and did not find any mods for 800MHZ for the 2040.  The
other fellow mentions you can have a downconverter added to get your
required band.

Tom

In article <[e-mail]>, <Unknown> says...
>
>On Sat, 12 Oct 1996 22:42:40 GMT, [e-mail]
>(Quixote) wrote:
>
>>Please, can I modify this scanner for full 800 mhz?
>>
>Come on someone out there must know if this rig can be modified or
>not, I would also like to know.
>Please help.



From [e-mail] Sat Oct 19 10:46:47 1996
From: [e-mail] (Jonathan Clough)
Subject: Re: Need pro 60 mods.
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In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] "David" writes:

David,

> Would like to get full 800 mhz coverage for radio shack scanner.

As with most of the most recent RS (mfr by Uniden & GRE) and Unidens own
sets the frequency "coverage" is controlled by the main IC rather than a
Matrix of Diodes or similar as on some earlier sets.

The US PRO-60 uses a CPU that has the US cell frequencies blocked out, the
version sold here in the UK and elsewhere in Europe uses a different CPU
(the only different component between the two "models") that does not have
the frequencies used by US cellular blocked out.

The only way to restore the frequencies used by US Cellular and allow
keyboard entry is replace the main IC (a 100 pin'ish surface mount chip) and
this is not an easy job unless you have the correct tools for the job. It is
possible to get the complte logic board with the IC and all components
already fitted but this is a more expensive option.

The PRO-60 however does not have programmable increment steps and you would
find if you did replace the IC then it would step through the 800MHz
frequencies in 12.5KHz increments. US cellular uses 30KHz.

Hope this helps.


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From [e-mail] Sat Oct 19 10:46:48 1996
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From: kf4lza <[e-mail]>
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Subject: NEEDED FREQS. FOR PK 96'
Date: Sat, 12 Oct 1996 00:51:11 -0700
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Anyone who has the frequencies for the radios being used at the annual
PROMISE KEEPERS conference '96, please let me know. I will be going to it
on 18-20 of October, and bringing my scanners, and ham
radios....thanks....

SEND ALL FREQUENCIES TO:

[e-mail]


From [e-mail] Sat Oct 19 10:46:49 1996
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Date: Mon, 14 Oct 1996 10:08:28 -0700
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Xref: news1.epix.net rec.radio.scanner:68424 alt.radio.scanner:40411

You may wish to purchase a standard TNC cell phone antenna for $8 or so,
and a $3-$4 TNC to BNC adaptor from Radio Shack.  We've found that this
combination works well.

Sonny J. Lewis wrote:
>
> Anybody know where to get an 800MHz rubber duckie (stubby) antenna w/BNC
> connector?
>
> Sonny
> --
> [e-mail]
> [e-mail]
> Columbus Frequency Index:  http://members.aol.com/slewis3092/freq/index.htm

--
Best regards,

Bill Fischer @ Electronic Countermeasures Inc.
65 - 31 Avenue South West, Calgary, Alberta, Canada T2S 2Y7
Voice [phone], Fax [phone]
MailTo:[e-mail]
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From [e-mail] Sat Oct 19 10:46:50 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Rick Maloney)
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Check out my homepage at http://www.muskoka.com/~maloney/

for great race scanning links, race links and sim racing links.

Rick Maloney

Rick Maloney
Bracebridge, Ont., Canada

NNNASCAR NNNorth Eh!!!!




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I prepose a new news group. It will be called

rec.radio.scanner.cheek.feud

The feud can continue on the new newsgroup, and rec.radio.scanner can
return to the topic of scanning?

What do you all think?

Jim Wayda
Captain, Scanner Price Police.


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From: [e-mail] (BILL WATTS)
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-=> Quoting Jim Wayda to All <=-

 JW> I prepose a new news group. It will be called

 JW> rec.radio.scanner.cheek.feud

 JW> The feud can continue on the new newsgroup, and rec.radio.scanner can
 JW> return to the topic of scanning?

 JW> What do you all think?

 JW> Jim Wayda
 JW> Captain, Scanner Price Police.

Wayda go, Jim.

... Bill Watts  ex-Cape Codder  [e-mail]


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In <[e-mail]> Jim Wayda <[e-mail]> writes:
>
>I prepose a new news group. It will be called
>
>rec.radio.scanner.cheek.feud
>
>The feud can continue on the new newsgroup, and rec.radio.scanner can
>return to the topic of scanning?
>
>What do you all think?
>
>Jim Wayda
>Captain, Scanner Price Police.

     ....there is a newsgroup already set up for the
     Idiot Guyette.....its' called: alt.angst

     very suitable and very easy to find....spell and pronounce

     bill conduit
     etc.


From [e-mail] Sat Oct 19 10:46:53 1996
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Visit my new South Dakota Scanner Radio Page at:
http://ww2.sd.cybernex.net/~jlayton/sdscan.html



From [e-mail] Sat Oct 19 10:46:54 1996
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Subject: Newfoundland freqs wanted
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Can any one help me with frequencies for the St. John's and
Harbor Grace areas?  My neighbor is planning a trip to the island of
Newfoundland and would like some interesting stuff to listen to.

- police
- emergency
- fire
- etc



From [e-mail] Sat Oct 19 10:46:55 1996
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In <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Charles Mikelson) writ
es:

>Can any one help me with frequencies for the St. John's and
>Harbor Grace areas?  My neighbor is planning a trip to the island of
>Newfoundland and would like some interesting stuff to listen to.

>- police
>- emergency
>- fire
>- etc

Try: http://www.panix.com/~clay/scanning/frequencies/canada/newfoundland/

--
Clay Irving N2VKG
[e-mail]
http://www.panix.com/~clay/


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Start using ******REC**********.radio.scanner





In article <[e-mail]>, K Sollmann  <[e-mail]> wrote:
>I understand that the Millenium company has gone out of business. I
>would like to know what happened to them.

There was no company by that name. The company producing the "Millenium"
nicads was Gates Energy Products.

Their assets were acquired by Eveready quite a while ago.

>I have used Milleniums for awhile and found them to be a good battery.
>Does anyone has any suggestions for a substitute?

The NEW design Eveready penlite cells (with a dimpled anode cap) are the
same formula.


--
Mike Schuster           |       [e-mail]
[e-mail]      |       [e-mail]


From [e-mail] Sat Oct 19 10:46:56 1996
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Hi there,

Can anyone tell me what frequencies i could find the following on:

 1. Police
 2. Ambulance
 3. Fire Brigade

I have some frequencies for the Highway Patrol along the Hume Hwy from
Mittagong (110 km SW of Sydney) to Victoria.

Thanks 4 ur help...

Helmut


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From: [e-mail] (Bud Jamison)
Date: 11 Oct 96 17:00:08
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"M> Anyone else come across this on a TV show aside from Cops or Rescue 911?

Adam 12 used a valid unit ID and valid LAPD callsign.

"M> One other question what sections of LA does KMG-365 Cover and is there
"M> really a squad 51 Rescue/Paramedic unit in LA County?

I believe the callsign IS valid for LACoFire, but there is no Station 51.

... Perhaps I should take up golf instead?


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From: [e-mail] (Mark L9)
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<<"M> Anyone else come across this on a TV show aside from Cops or Rescue
911?

Adam 12 used a valid unit ID and valid LAPD callsign.

"M> One other question what sections of LA does KMG-365 Cover and is there
"M> really a squad 51 Rescue/Paramedic unit in LA County?

I believe the callsign IS valid for LACoFire, but there is no Station
51.>>


We've gone over this time and time again.  So, here's one more time...

Yes there is NOW a real "Station 51" in the Los Angeles County Fire
Department.  Last year, or earlier this year, Station 60 located on the
premises of Universal Studios in LA was renamed "Station 51" in honor of
the series.

The call sign "KMG 365", according to POLICE CALL, is assigned to the City
of Bellflower.



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From: [e-mail] (Rick)
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[e-mail] (D Stark) wrote:


>        According to "Police Call" way back when Emergency
>was still on the air, KMG-365 was licensed to an LA County
>fire transmitter in Bellflower.

>73 de Dave, NF2G

Hey, I have the station 51 alert tone in a wave file if anyone is
interested.  I may be able to put it up as a binary file if anyone is
interested and nobody complains.



Rick Streifel
[e-mail]
N 49.16.34.2
W123.01.36.9



From [e-mail] Sat Oct 19 10:47:00 1996
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Of the 18 or so divisions within the LAPD, "Rampart" certainly is one of
them, though I don't know, offhand, the division number.  On the old "Adam
12" show, the "1" designation referred to "Central" division.


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From: [e-mail] (PVBoy33)
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But have you ever noticed that every fire unit that has been in a TV show
- ie. Dragnet, Adam 12, CHiPs, etc. has been engine 51... From
"Emergency"?


From [e-mail] Sat Oct 19 10:47:01 1996
From: [e-mail] (Pete Womack)
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Ken Koller <[e-mail]> wrote:

>On Sat, 12 Oct 1996, D Stark wrote:

>> In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail]
ximumaccess.com (Bud Jamison) wrote:
>> >
>> >"M> One other question what sections of LA does KMG-365 Cover and is there
>> >"M> really a squad 51 Rescue/Paramedic unit in LA County?

[cut]

>Now, to clear this up, there *IS* a LACoFD Station 51, located on the
>grounds of Universal Studios, 3900 Lankershim Blvd. It is a fully
>operational fire station, housing an engine company, a paramedic squad
>and a patrol unit. It was formerly FS60, but was renumbered 51 just last
>year.

        About ten years ago, my wife and I went out to LA to see her relatives, and w
e
took the Universal City tour. I remember seeing the "Squad 51" rescue unit
parked out in the back lot. Does anyone know if U.S. is using that unit in the
LACoFD station mentioned above? It would be a shame to mothball a functioning
rescue squad truck.

Pete (who lived to watch "Emergency!" every week).
Medical Technologist, parent, brewer, computer nerd



From [e-mail] Sat Oct 19 10:47:02 1996
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From: [e-mail] (PVBoy33)
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 [e-mail] (Mark L9) wrote:

> Of the 18 or so divisions within the LAPD, "Rampart" certainly is one of
> them, though I don't know, offhand, the division number.  On the old
"Adam
> 12" show, the "1" designation referred to "Central" division.

Actually, the "Rampart" everyone has been referring to is the hospital in
the TV show "Emergency." It is actually Harbor-UCLA Med Center...
The Rampart Division of the LAPD is division 2, which would make any car
in the Rampart area 2 Adam 12...etc.

[e-mail]


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From: John Mackey KA0SSF <[e-mail]>
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Hey Bill-

Well how ya doing?

This has gone on now for nearly 3 months, since July 20th.  I believe
it started with Hugh Duff, PJB, & a few others.

I have not come down on you regarding your technical knowledge of
scanners, I think you are good in that area.  My problem is primarily
with your grand-standing, lying/story-making, & your arrogance.

I want you to know that my issue with you WAS NOT because you kicked
me off of your scanradio echo.  It was because of the arrogant WAY you
kicked me off.  You made half truths & gave warnings & then second
warnings BEFORE I received the first warnings.  You then complained to
my sysop, made YOUR complaints public on your echo, & stated that any
response could be done via private netmail.  I responded to you via
private netmail & you REFUSED to consider or respond to my e-mails.
Then you complained to my sysop & he asked me to not send you e-mail
due to your request.

Another area is your credentials you claim (licenses, degrees, &
certificates.  Personally, I couldn't care less about them, but
the way you flaunt them invites controversy.  We now know you
are not current with your Mensa membership.  We also know your
FCC commercial license was either never for real, or it was revoked
when the FCC busted you for illegal equipment/activities, or you
chose not to renew it when the license became lifetime 13 yrs ago.

Personally, I don't believe that affects your knowledge.  But it
does speak for your credability.

You claim to have dual masters degrees but will not present anything
to confirm them.  That speaks for itself.

You stories about my kids being bed wetters (I have no kids) & me
not having eye lids also speaks for itself & your credability.

I think you have learned that at some point your activities will
come back to you.  Sorta like the saying "what goes around comes
around".  I have had several former & current Scanradio members
who have asked me to forward the messages from here to them because
they were supportive & interested.

On THREE seperate occasions since July you have been offered a
truce & you only continued your attacks.

I would like to offer you a truce again.  You may respond if you like,
but you don't have to.  Your actions online will clearly indicate
wether you chose the truce or not.

BTW- myself & the others have a long memory,  so this is for good not
just a couple weeks.  If you go back on it then the truce is off.

Have a nice day Bill.



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From: [e-mail] (tyler)
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Subject: Re: Open letter to B. Cheek & any others concerned
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Well, Mr. Mackey, knowbody else cares and this could have been put on
alt.boring.childish.hehitmefirst.   Could you please just stop?



From [e-mail] Sat Oct 19 10:47:05 1996
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From: Eric Oyen <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: Open letter to B. Cheek & any others concerned
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John Mackey KA0SSF wrote:
*** snip ***
>
> BTW- myself & the others have a long memory,  so this is for good not
> just a couple weeks.  If you go back on it then the truce is off.
>
> Have a nice day Bill.
John,
you are right. some of US do have long memories. However, it seems that
yours is somwhat selective. How is it that out of roughly 1000 posts,
that yu would have 200 of them dealing with this (and others) subject?
in the same period of time, I noticed about 50 odd postings from Mr.
cheek on this subject (or related items) and an additional twenty on
subjects relating to scanner, their repair, or modification. Why is
that, John?

WHat I see is a vastly different picture from the point of veiw of
having all such artivles available here. I have counted them, sorted
them and still, my numbers show that you are the one causing most of the
trouble. why don't you just give it up? I am sure there are others who
can back up my figures....


From [e-mail] Sat Oct 19 10:47:06 1996
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From: [e-mail] (tyler)
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In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] says...
>
>tyler wrote:
>> Well, Mr. Mackey, knowbody else cares and this could have been
>
>Hey Mr. Know-it-all Tyler, that is "nobody", not "knowbody".
>

You know, you just don't get it.  You and Cheek are the two most childish
people I have ever known on the net.  (or anywhere for that matter)  Could you

PLEASE JUST STOP!!???!!?!?!?!



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From: John Mackey KA0SSF <[e-mail]>
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tyler wrote:
> Could you
> PLEASE JUST STOP!!???!!?!?!?!

I agree, please do stop.




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From: "John..Mackey..KA0SSF" <[e-mail]>
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Eric Oyen wrote:
> you are right. some of US do have long memories. However, it seems that
> yours is somwhat selective. How is it that out of roughly 1000 posts,
> that yu would have 200 of them dealing with this (and others) subject?
> in the same period of time, I noticed about 50 odd postings from Mr.

Then your memory is not long enough or else you are a new comer.  Only
up
to a couple weeks ago Bill's entrys overwhelmed this NG, often with
attacking remarks.


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From: Eric Oyen <[e-mail]>
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John..Mackey..KA0SSF wrote:
>
> Eric Oyen wrote:
> > you are right. some of US do have long memories. However, it seems that
> > yours is somwhat selective. How is it that out of roughly 1000 posts,
> > that yu would have 200 of them dealing with this (and others) subject?
> > in the same period of time, I noticed about 50 odd postings from Mr.
>
> Then your memory is not long enough or else you are a new comer.  Only
> up
> to a couple weeks ago Bill's entrys overwhelmed this NG, often with
> attacking remarks.
New comer, mayby, but not that new John.

Obviously, I had to do a lot of "catch-up" reading here, but I did
catalog a fair number of posts and you have 1/5 of them over a 2 month
period of time. The numbers speak for themselves.

Anything you have to add contrary to the real facts in this case only
serve to prove that you are in denial, John.


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From: [e-mail](Anthony Santiago )
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Own AOR8000 and am thinking about hooking SCOUT up to it. Is the SCOUT
a worth while investment?? Had one of the first Freq. counters by Opto
and was a little disappointed in it. Also had the Opto Explorer but it
did'nt perform to my expectations.


From [e-mail] Sat Oct 19 10:47:11 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Dr Pepper)
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Hi,

I've been running OptoScan with a PRO-2006,
for several years now.  I'm using a 286, SVGA,
with two hard drives, "C" and "D".  I recently
moved all my OptoScan program and files from the
C drive to the D drive. NOW, the program seems to
work, but when it stops on a signal, it stays there,
and does not continue to scan when the signals stops.
I moved the program and files back to C drive, and
the same problem persists. I checked all the switches
in the program, and don't see any thing that would help.

YOUR help would be appreciated.
Thanx
73 de Ron, WB6GKI

[e-mail]

Dr Pepper
10 - 2 - 4
Good Anytime


From [e-mail] Sat Oct 19 10:47:12 1996
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John Pelura III <[e-mail]> wrote:

>I need to purchase an outdoor antenna that I will connect to my 200XLT.
>Does anyone have any suggestions. I will be listening to mostly fire on
>low band, police on highband, and state police on 800 band, so I need
>something that is all around good. I live in a suburban area, the
>terrain is mostly flat with with houses as the only obstructions. I live
>in south jersey about 35 miles from Philly, PA.
>Thanks for any assistance.
>-john

Due to the width of the band you require, I would suggest a Discone
antenna. It can be used thru a wide range of frequencies like the ones
you  need.  A discone, if you don't know about them, is a cone made of
conductive rods (typically 8) with a slant height equal to a quarter
wavelength of the lowest target frequency. On top of the cone, there
is a disc with a diameter equal to the 70% of the slant height. It
takes little space to be installed and performs well up to UHF.

Don't expect much gain with a discone; of course, you must pay gain
for bandwidth. I once made myself a discone and it didn't show up more
gain than a rubber-ducky at floor level but, it can be placed high
above the rooftop thus avoiding unwanted indoor reflections, and
increases gain as referred to the rubber-ducky.

Discone antennas are cheap and may be homemade (you may download
discone.txt  from ftp.funet.fi/pub/ham/antenna for construction
details).

If you expect much more gain, you must consider some sort of directive
antennas (yagis, quads..) but with a narrower bandwidth and higher
attenuations when out of band.

Jordi EA3AAI
[e-mail]




From [e-mail] Sat Oct 19 10:47:14 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Richard Evans)
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Robert H. Eisner ([e-mail]) wrote:
: David P. Walton <[e-mail]> wrote:
: >
: > I'm thinking of buying a used AR8000.  Problem is I may be selected for a
: > job in Germany.  Does anyone know what scanning activities can be found in
: > Heidelberg and surrounding towns in Germany?  I only speak english and
: > don't want to spring for a scanner if I can't understand the language!!!

: Hi David,

: you may want to post this question on de.alt.radio-scanner (if your ISP
: carries it).

: Bob

There is always air traffic control. If you are near an air field.
All air traffic control speach is in English.

Richard.


From [e-mail] Sat Oct 19 10:47:15 1996
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From: [e-mail] (WoodyWorkr)
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Subject: Palm Springs Freqs requested
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I am going to be in Palm Springs Ca. for a week and was wondering if
anyone would be so kind as to send me a list of local frequencies of
interest.  I have a 100 channel scanner and would appreciate any city,
county, fire and law enforcement as well as CHP and search & rescue.  Any
local repeater freqs may provide some local information also.   Please
reply by e-mail as I will not have much time to  review newsgroups this
week.  Thanks in advance.
Bernie Swanson
Bellevue, WA

"The sound of tireless voices is the price we pay for the right to hear
the music of our own opinions"
True then and true on the Internet..
Adlai Stevenson (1900-1965)


From [e-mail] Sat Oct 19 10:47:16 1996
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From: "Robert H. Eisner" <[e-mail]>
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To: Clay Scott <[e-mail]>

Clay Scott wrote:
>
> Sorry to bomb the list with this request.  I am leaving for Palo Alto, CA
> on Sunday the 13th.  I have run out of time at work to search through the
> web sites I have bookmarked (my home system still hasn't recovered from
> the lightning strike!).  So, if some kind soul has a ready list of
> frequencies they could email to me today (Friday) I would be very
> greatful.
>
>                                 Thanks,
>                                 [e-mail]

Hi Clay,

A list of Bay Area frequencies can be found at the following URL:

 http://www.amdahl.com/ext/scc-so/sccfreq.html

PALO ALTO
Police Primary (80)      482.6125  Share with Stanford DPS
                         482.8125
                         482.3375  SCCLEMACS
Fire & Paramedics        153.770
                         153.845   County Wide Fire - Blue
                         154.280   Fire Mutual Aid - White I
                         154.265   Fire Mutual Aid - White II
                         154.295   Fire Mutual Aid - White III
Public Works             453.700

Bob


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From: [e-mail] (Evan Platt)
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[e-mail](BAYCITVIDGRP) wrote:
>       Div. of Forestry fire:  151.34
>                               151.40

And Morgan Hill CDF: 151.445


>      Palo Alto fire:  154.445     plus medic

Thats the imput of 153.770.. Not going to do much good. Just FYI.

>                       154.995
>                       154.025

154.025 is Mountain View.. 154.995?? Thats also the inpt for MV Fire.

>                       153.83    tac
>                        33.96
>                        33.1

I haven't used the above?? Whats' 153.83?


>       if you need a book of freq's or more
>       call Scanners Unlimited in San Carlos
>       ask for Glen... tell him I sent you

Good call on the other freq's.. Yes, Glenn's the man.. 415-573-1624.
I'm there most weekends.


From [e-mail] Sat Oct 19 10:47:18 1996
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From: [e-mail] (FishFotoJr)
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These are the first 20 frequencies in my scanner, I live on the Menlo
Park/Palo Alto boarder in California.  As a news photographer I have found
these are the most used Freq in the area , plus  on a radio, I have
Baystar San Mateo County EMS, hope this helps, if when you are here you
need help I am at 1(800)662-5306

01-482.612-Palo Alto PD
02-153.770-Palo Alto FD
03-488.337-Menlo Park PD
04-153.890 -Menlo Park FD/Redwood City FD (Disp)
05-488.787-Redwood City PD(483.4125 , replacment)
06-156.105-Redwood City FD/Menlo Park FD (Tactical 1)
07-45.660-San Mateo County Narcotics Task Force "Ida"
08-488.537-San Mateo County Sheriff (South)
09-489.087-Atherton PD
10-488.387-East Palo Alto PD
11-151.190-San Mateo County Fire Mutual Aid "White 1"
12-488.887-San Mateo County Police, County Wide
13-154.025-Palo Alto/Mountain View Fire,Primary Direct
14-482.337-Santa Clara County Law Mutual Aid
15-154.250-Santa Clara County Fire Primary
16-153.845-Santa Clara County Fire Countywide-Common Blue
17-154.280-Santa Clara County Mutual Aid "White 1"
18-460.100-San Jose PD Tactical/SOD
19-154.010-San Jose FD Disp./Airport Crash Box
20-453.775-San Francisco Int'l Airport FD/Crash Box


Steven E. Frischling
Freelance News Photographer
NYPD Working Press #0067

Too young to be respected; Too old to not be taken seriously; INVINCIBLE!;
Fear was just a word in the dictionary; Life was a right, not a gift;
Death was only a concept; STRENGTH!--Nikon F4s ad 1992



From [e-mail] Sat Oct 19 10:47:19 1996
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From: Jay Kolin <[e-mail]>
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Anyone know the active Freq? I've listened to 154.650...no activity.

JK


From [e-mail] Sat Oct 19 10:47:20 1996
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From: [e-mail] (D Stark)
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Subject: Re: POCSAG Decoding Software Sources
Date: Mon, 14 Oct 96 14:36:03 GMT
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In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] wrote:
>Hi all
>in regards to recent messages here are the software sources
>for POCSAG decoding software.
>
>http://www.bearnet.demon.co.uk/pocsag/
>
>This is where to find PD v2.03 from the author
>The sofware requires a small hardware decoder which costs
>about UKP 5.00 and costs UKP 20.00 to register.

There are a couple of websites that claim you can use PD
v2.03 with a Baycom packet modem.  I haven't tried it myself
so I don't know if it really works.

73 de Dave, NF2G


From [e-mail] Sat Oct 19 10:47:21 1996
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From: [e-mail] (M.D.Kalmijn)
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Subject: Re: POCSAG Decoding Software Sources
Date: Wed, 16 Oct 96 11:41:33 GMT
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In article <[e-mail]>,
   [e-mail] (tomgrady) wrote:
>Hi all
>in regards to recent messages here are the software sources
>for POCSAG decoding software.
>
>http://www.bearnet.demon.co.uk/pocsag/
>
>This is where to find PD v2.03 from the author
>The sofware requires a small hardware decoder which costs
>about UKP 5.00 and costs UKP 20.00 to register.
>The new shareware version times out after 15mins
>(only 5 mins in older versions) and logging is disabled
>To get the system to work at its best feed it with your scanner
>discriminator output (nice square waves) most of the problems
>people have with this software are some scanners produce
>nice 'rounded' sine waves which do not decode correctly
>
>http://huizen.dds.nl/~mkalmijn/pocsag2e.htm
>
>This is where to find the windows based software 'Semasoft'
>this uses your soundcard only no hardware interface
>just feed the audio to your soundcard line-in
>This software is a beta only and the instructions are not in english!
>hope further developments improve it PD v2.03 is far better and more
>functional.
>
SemaSoft readme.txt is availeble in ENglish now!!!!!!!


From [e-mail] Sat Oct 19 10:47:22 1996
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From: "LB" <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: POCSAG Decoding Software Sources
Date: 16 Oct 1996 06:58:19 GMT
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Do you think you could upload in this newsgroup a small WAV file containing
a capture of an on the air Pocsag transmission, i just would like to know
if the code used in belgium is the same as anywhere in the world ?

rgds
//end
LB


From [e-mail] Sat Oct 19 10:47:23 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Donald Gray)
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Subject: Re: POCSAG Decoding Software Sources
Date: Thu, 17 Oct 1996 19:46:09 GMT
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"LB" <[e-mail]> wrote:

>Do you think you could upload in this newsgroup a small WAV file containing
>a capture of an on the air Pocsag transmission, i just would like to know
>if the code used in belgium is the same as anywhere in the world ?

>rgds
>//end
>LB
NO - NO - NO - NO - NO - No - No - no - no

PLEASE NO do not post binaries or wav files in a news group. Please do
not ask for them to be posted in a news group.

If you want a wav or binary, then ask for it to be emailed just to
you, not EVERYONE.

Thank you





Donald Gray
Free Agent V1.0 -
Eudora Lite V1.5.4
Please do not short the output or severe damage will be caused to the fuse.
         (On a Sony power supply leaflet!)



From [e-mail] Sat Oct 19 10:47:23 1996
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From: "E. Scott Sykes" <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: POCSAG Readme.txr English
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Ultrix wrote:
>
> In article <53gfa8$[e-mail]>, [e-mail]
> says...
> > Hello
> >
> > After a few requests I've placed a translation of the readme.txt on my
> > homepage rgarding semasoft (pager decoder)
> > Greetings,
> >
> >   Marco
>
> Cool!  uh, what's the address to you page???????  :)
>
>                                 [e-mail]


http://huizen.dds.nl/~mkalmijn/pocsag1.htm


From [e-mail] Sat Oct 19 10:47:24 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Cloud78572)
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Subject: Re: POCSAG-Software, pager decoder without hardware
Date: 14 Oct 1996 00:08:04 -0400
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 I have an 8-bit soundbaster,and I can't get it to work. It keeps telling
me that the device is still playing, even if I haven't been using the
sound card.


From [e-mail] Sat Oct 19 10:47:25 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Barry Saxon)
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In article <53p2hq$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Rick Christian) wr
ites:

>The program causes GPF's, system lockups, and loss of sound function
>requiring the system to be rebooted, often requiring a complete reset.

>Sucess rate of the software is low. I can get a few numeric messages
>to decode, and even fewer alpha ones


I had all the above problems, and a spontaneous reboot.  Not a single decode.

Blowing it away was a singular thrill.


From [e-mail] Sat Oct 19 10:47:26 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Cloud78572)
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 Discriminator output isn't the issue with this program. It won't even let
me get so far as to start trying to decode. As soon as I turn it on, it
starts giving error messages.


From [e-mail] Sat Oct 19 10:47:27 1996
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i have download a prog to listen pocsag but i dont find any
frequencies lo listen
anyone have freqs ?
Yo hablo espa±ol ,
I speak English .
Mais je parle mieux Franτais !



From [e-mail] Sat Oct 19 10:47:28 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Marg Eveleigh)
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I am looking for Portland Maine frequencies particularly those of the
police and media.  My usually good source of US frequencies,
www.perconcorp.com, does not seem to have any listings.  Does anyone know
of a site that does or would mind sending me some freqs.
Thanks.
Margaret in Toronto


From [e-mail] Sat Oct 19 10:47:29 1996
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From: [e-mail] (BILL WATTS)
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-=> Quoting Mjg to All <=-

 Mj> Hi Folks: I'm Mike in Philadelphia. I have reason to believe that some
 Mj> badass  has bugged my home. I can't find the bug and have a large
 Mj> well-filled home.
 Mj> But I have a scanner. Can anyone tell me what frequency a bug might
 Mj> transmit  at? Maybe I can pick it up on the scanner.

You might try giving out some false info that the bugger
would hear and act upon. Just don't make it obvious by
doing something like talking louder when doing it. If it
seems like someone is acting on the false info, then you
can get serious about finding the bug.
There was at least one guy who sold bug detectors and put
out a catalog but he just got arrested for selling bugging
equipment.


... Bill Watts  ex-Cape Codder  [e-mail]



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From: [e-mail] (mjg)
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Hi Folks: I'm Mike in Philadelphia. I have reason to believe that some badass
has bugged my home. I can't find the bug and have a large well-filled home.

But I have a scanner. Can anyone tell me what frequency a bug might transmit
at? Maybe I can pick it up on the scanner.

Also, are there any newsgroups for bugging?

It has been suggested that I buy a 'frequency counter' and walk around with
that, and write it all down. So I'll do that soon.

In the meantime, if you have a list of bug frequencies, I'd really appreciate
your sending a copy to me.

Thanks...MikeG/Philley


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In a previous article, [e-mail] (mjg) wrote:
->Hi Folks: I'm Mike in Philadelphia. I have reason to believe that some badas
s
->has bugged my home. I can't find the bug and have a large well-filled home.
->
->But I have a scanner. Can anyone tell me what frequency a bug might transmit

->at? Maybe I can pick it up on the scanner.
->
->Also, are there any newsgroups for bugging?
->
->It has been suggested that I buy a 'frequency counter' and walk around with
->that, and write it all down. So I'll do that soon.
->
->In the meantime, if you have a list of bug frequencies, I'd really appreciat
e
->your sending a copy to me.
->
->Thanks...MikeG/Philley


Mike,
Try the following URL:
http://www.tscm.com/bugfreq.html
Good luck,
Phil


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mjg wrote:
>
> Hi Folks: I'm Mike in Philadelphia. I have reason to believe that some badas
s
> has bugged my home. I can't find the bug and have a large well-filled home.
>
> But I have a scanner. Can anyone tell me what frequency a bug might transmit
> at? Maybe I can pick it up on the scanner.
>
> Also, are there any newsgroups for bugging?
>
> It has been suggested that I buy a 'frequency counter' and walk around with
> that, and write it all down. So I'll do that soon.
>
> In the meantime, if you have a list of bug frequencies, I'd really appreciat
e
> your sending a copy to me.
>
> Thanks...MikeG/Philley

Why do you think you are being bugged???????
If you have a chordless phone, that is probly your bug....
I think most are in the 170'smhz. i might me wrong though.


http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/5860/

--
Dave Booth kc6wfs dm04rk


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> Mike,
> Try the following URL:
> http://www.tscm.com/bugfreq.html
> Good luck,
> Phil

After going to that site it makes you a bit paranoid.
--
E. Scott Sykes
This is Ground Control. . .


From [e-mail] Sat Oct 19 10:47:33 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Frank Guerrero)
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Subject: Re: Pro 2004 display problem
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In article <[e-mail]>,
[e-mail] (Ultrix) wrote:


> Since you can press the reset button and everything works fine, your
> problem could be with your POR (Power-on Reset) circuit in the scanner.
> This circuit is used to allow the power supply time to stabilize before
> initializing the CPU.  If the CPU tries to initialize before the power
> supply is stable, it will either crash, or come up in an unknown state,
> which explains why your scanner display is scrambled on power up.  By the
> time you reach around and press the reset button, the supply has had more
> than enough time to become stable and then everything works peachy.....

Could this problem also cause the memory to zero it self upon turn on? I
have this problem on a 2004 and a Pro-34, if not any hints as to where to
look?
Could I use an O'scope to verify if the components are performing properly?
Thanks for any information you can give. BTW this was a great reply to the
original post.
[e-mail]


From [e-mail] Sat Oct 19 10:47:34 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Ultrix)
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Subject: Re: Pro 2004 display problem
Date: Mon, 14 Oct 1996 21:36:52 -0700
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In article <fguerrero-1210960108290001@pma2_119.loop.com>,
[e-mail] says...
> In article <[e-mail]>,
> [e-mail] (Ultrix) wrote:
> Could this problem also cause the memory to zero it self upon turn on?
I
> have this problem on a 2004 and a Pro-34, if not any hints as to where
to
> look?
> Could I use an O'scope to verify if the components are performing
properly?
> Thanks for any information you can give. BTW this was a great reply to
the
> original post.
> [e-mail]

        Hmmm...  Good question.....   Yes, it could, but it is hard to
say....  I can look over the schematic I have of the 2006 and get back to
you and any possible ways that this could cause memory loss.

    You could verify the POR circuit with an analog scope but it might
take a couple of attempts.  You would need to connect channel 1 of the
O'scope to 5V on the scanner to use as a reference, and probe with
channel 2 on the lead of the capacitor that connects to the resistor.
When you turn the power on you should see CH1 immediately register 5v and
CH2 transistion from low to high a few hundred milliseconds later.  If
you have an analog scope, this may take a couple of tries, if you have a
digital storage scope then it should be no sweat to catch the pulse.
Once CH2 goes high (5V), it should remain there until power is removed
from the scanner.  If a voltage remains on CH2 after CH1 has dropped to
zero (the scanner has been turned off), then your problem is probably
related to the diode.  If both channels transistion simultaneously
without the few hundred millisecond delay, check the resistor first with
a DMM and look for a value of 100K Ohms plus or minus 10K.  If this
checks out then replace the cap.

Also, before doing any of this it might be a good idea to check the
bottom of the PCB for solder shorts and the like, and also check for any
metallic debris that may have entered the case.

I hope this helps.....
                                        [e-mail]


From [e-mail] Sat Oct 19 10:47:35 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Mike Smith)
Subject: Pro 2005 For Sale
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I have a Pro 2005 for sale for $200.00.
It's in great shape and has been modified for cellphones.
Manual + extra antenna + Service manual.

[e-mail]

Mike Smith - N9MMP
Brownsburg, In.
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From [e-mail] Sat Oct 19 10:47:36 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Rob Kling)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Pro 2035 and OptoScan 535. Do they work wll together?
Date: 12 Oct 1996 14:16:48 GMT
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>I am interested in knowing what happens to my 2035's memory when I use the 53
5? Can I program the onboard 2035 memories from the 535? Can I
>use the 2035,  without a computer,  when I have a 535 installed? I mean I spe
nd 300 dollars for 1000 memories, I would like to use them:)
>From talking to Opto Electronics people, I am starting to think I could buy t
he 535,  attach a PLL and I could have a radio!
>
>Rob Kling
>N8YBV

I would like to thank all those who replied for the valuable information provi
ded here. This is an excellent way to get product info!

As with any exploration the first answered question lead to more questions. Wh
at is the difference in scan rates between the OptoScan 535(535)
and the CE232?  I am a systems engineer ie) computer programmer and I have all
 the tools to do any type of code deveolopment I want. How
hard would it be to writre my own software  for the 535 compared to the CE232?
 Also I would like to know what functions that are available for the
PRO 2006 are NOT available for my PRO 2035 when using the 535. For instance I
was reading that you can, with the use of an Opto Electronics
board, tone scan, or signal strenth scan. My PRO 2035 does not have a signal s
trength meter, can I do this with a 535 installed ?  As I understand it the
535 can be programmed in such away as to give continuous coverage, what are th
e codes for this?  I heard that Monitoring Times published these codes
in a recent article, I would lilke to know the month and year of that issue. A
lso, if the code has been published is Optoelectronics planning to change it?

I am getting ready to purchase one of these products and I like the features o
f both the CE232  and 535, but I can not afford both of them, so I have to
be chosey about which one I purchase, hence the question and answer sessions.

FYI Mike a PLL is a Phase Locked Loop. It enables a computer chip to control t
he analog device known as a VCO Voltage Contolled Ocillator.
This digital to analog interface is what enables modern scanners to be control
led by computers. It is probalbly the single most valuable interface in the
communication industry today.

Rob Kling
N8YBV




From [e-mail] Sat Oct 19 10:47:37 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Michael Alexander)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Pro 2035 and OptoScan 535. Do they work wll together?
Date: Sun, 13 Oct 1996 17:40:23 -0400
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In article <53oecq$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] wrot
e:

> >As I understand it the
> >535 can be programmed in such away as to give continuous coverage, what
are the codes for this?  I heard that Monitoring Times published these
codes
> >in a recent article, I would lilke to know the month and year of that
issue. Also, if the code has been published is Optoelectronics planning to
change it?
> >
>
> >>Rob Kling
> >N8YBV
>
>
> I have found the unlock code!,  If any one is interested it can be found
at an excellent site for scanner buffs.
>
>
>         http://www.zianet.com/kc5kto/base.html#pro2035
>
>
> Rob

The unlock code is 27568114936463053849

--
Michael Alexander
[e-mail]


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From: [e-mail] (Blue dot 9)
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Subject: Re: PRO 2035 code
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Call them up--numnuts! :-)

They've had it for $199 for awhile

Dave
(Scanner Flatulaire)

.In article <53jqne$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] writes:

>>The OS-456, and OS-535 are both at $199 at OPTOELECTRONICS.
>
>>Dave
>>(Scanner Flatulaire)
>
>Their homepage says $249...where is the 456 on sale for $200??
>
>Bob
>
>[e-mail]
>
>
>



From [e-mail] Sat Oct 19 10:47:39 1996
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From: "Thomas Bernie" <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: Pro 2040 Mods,Please Help
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Quixote <[e-mail]> wrote in article
<53o7rq$[e-mail]>...
> need pro 2040 Mods, Can anybody restore cellular band?
>
Cellular Security Group, re:  Virtual Down-converter, 508-281-8892


From [e-mail] Sat Oct 19 10:47:40 1996
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need pro 2040 Mods, Can anybody restore cellular band?



From [e-mail] Sat Oct 19 10:47:41 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Terry Calof)
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Subject: PRO 25 or PRO 60?
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Both these Rad Shack scanners are on sale in Canada. My questions are:
   1) Can they be modified easily to open up the cell band?
   2) Is one superior to the other in terms of audio quality, ease of use,
      ergonomics?
   3) The 25 has 100 memories, but scans twice as fast as the 200 memory
60. Is
      this important?
   4) The 25 uses a double conversion receiver. The 60 has triple het
conversion

      In real life is this an important factor?
If you are familiar with either scanner, I would greatly appreciate your
feedback. Thanks in advance, Terry


From [e-mail] Sat Oct 19 10:47:42 1996
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From: Rich Wells <[e-mail]>
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Terry,
   Personally, I would go with the Pro-60 given it has triple conversion
and
twice the channels. You can never have too many channels(well maybe in
some
cases ;-), and the triple conversion will come in handy if you travel
with
it even if you don't live near a large city which is bound to have lots
of strong transmitters.
   The Pro-60 is a worthy successor to the Pro-43 which is/was one of
the
best handhelds ever made. It is slightly dated comapred to the newer
AR-8000
and BC-3000 but is worth the difference in price if you can get one for
sale.
The audio is much better than the 43, offers a direct tuning feature,
the ability to step through channels manually either forward or backward
and
has a nice stepping feature while searching. These last two features are
not
as handy as the VFO control on an AR-8000 or MVT-7100 but they are a
step
in the right direction.
   As for scanning speed, I wouldn't worry about that too much unless
you
tend to scan more than 50 channels at a time. And the 60 can not be
moded
to restore cellular...I doubt the 25 can either if it is a newer design.

Strong signals,
Rich Wells
N2MCA
Owner : Pro-34/43/60/26/2006/2042 BC-3000/9000 AR-2700/8000 MVT-7100 R-1
Former Owner : Pro-51 BCT-7 BC-8500
North Carolina editor
The Scanner Club
http://www.enter.net/~jheller/scanclub.html

Terry Calof wrote:
>
> Both these Rad Shack scanners are on sale in Canada. My questions are:
>    1) Can they be modified easily to open up the cell band?
>    2) Is one superior to the other in terms of audio quality, ease of use,
>       ergonomics?
>    3) The 25 has 100 memories, but scans twice as fast as the 200 memory
> 60. Is
>       this important?
>    4) The 25 uses a double conversion receiver. The 60 has triple het
> conversion
>
>       In real life is this an important factor?


From [e-mail] Sat Oct 19 10:47:43 1996
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Subject: Re: PRO 25 or PRO 60?
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Terry Calof asks......

I have a Pro-60 and am quite pleased with it.

> Both these Rad Shack scanners are on sale in Canada. My questions are:
>    1) Can they be modified easily to open up the cell band?

The 60 isn't.

>    2) Is one superior to the other in terms of audio quality, ease of =
use,
>       ergonomics?

Pro-60 audio on a scale of 1-10 is around a 7.=20

>    3) The 25 has 100 memories, but scans twice as fast as the 200 =
memory
> 60. Is this important?

Only if you scan lots of frequencies with no activity.=20

>    4) The 25 uses a double conversion receiver. The 60 has triple het
> conversion  In real life is this an important factor?

I think it is. The triple conversion is far superior. If you live in the =
sticks and don't have any
transmitter sites around you might be OK but I myself wouldn't by double =
conversion.

I am not familiar with the Pro-25 so I can't compare. Maybe after input =
from 25 users this
will help. Good luck!


Glenn




From [e-mail] Sat Oct 19 10:47:44 1996
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paul burke wrote:
>
> in my home town pawnshop they have a pro 62 for $129.00 is this a good
> buy y/n  can you do cell mods on this one
>
> thanks paul
>
> email  [e-mail]

The price is not bad!
As for the "cel mod"  there is no mod for it.
Sorry.....

http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/5860
--
Dave Booth kc6wfs


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From: [e-mail] (John Wilkerson)
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I have a Realistic PRO-66 handheld scanner... (New in the 1997) catalog.
This scanner has a problem with its low battery circuit.

Wwwhen using Nicads, the battery warning activates and shuts off the
scanner when the batteries are fully charged at times.

I figure this scanner has the voltage sensor set a bit on the high side
when it comes to nicads.

Has anyone figured out the low battery circiut on this scanner yet so as
in order to deactivate it?



--
     John L. Wilkerson Jr.        [e-mail]
                                  http://www.iwaynet.net/~johnw

     Coordinator of the rec.radio.cb FAQ
http://www.iwaynet.net/~johnw/cb1.html




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If any one has information on how to unlock the pro-2036, I would
appreciate hearing from you
[e-mail]



From [e-mail] Sat Oct 19 10:47:47 1996
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             FOR SALE: USED and in MINT condition

         A RADIO SHACK >> PRO-43 << PORTABLE SCANNER
         ===========================================

                   FIRM  C.O.D. US$ 190.-
                   ======================

Complete with all originals: Antena, instruction manual, and box.

Frequency coverage:  30  - 50 MHz
                     118 - 174 MHz
                     220 - 512 MHz
                     806 - 823.9375 MHz
                         - [Unmodifiable 800 Mhz]
                     851 - 868.9375 MHz
                         - [Unmodifiable 800 Mhz]
                     896 - 999.9875 MHz

It has 200 channels  divided  into  10 banks. With individual
lockout and 2 second rescan delay for every memory channels.
AM and narrow band FM are selectable on any frequency. Plus 10
"monitor" memories that can be written manually during a search.

Scan rate at 25 channels/second and search rate at 50
steps/second. Priority channel is checked every 2 seconds.

Built in light to view in the dark.

REQUIRES 6 AA (Alkaline or NiCd) batteries (NOT included.)


             HERE COMES MY HONEST fine PRINTS:

-- The September 1992 issue  of  Monitoring Times  details a
modification to restore cellular phone band coverage and expand
VHF-low band coverage to 30 - 88 MHz. But when I brought it to
the expert radio store to modify the 800 Mhz, they said it's
unmodifiable because it was the latest version.

-- Batteries are NOT included.


=:)  Steven
[e-mail]


From [e-mail] Sat Oct 19 10:47:48 1996
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From: "rabdoe" <[e-mail]>
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Subject: pro2006
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I have one for sale,already modified in excellent condition with original
box..I am selling because i dont listen to it..
400 channels the old Radio Shack grey one that they discontinued...make me
an offer...
thanx


From [e-mail] Sat Oct 19 10:47:49 1996
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From: George Sambataro <[e-mail]>
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So far I have found out ...
the UBC-3000 is a little larger/heavier radio, with slightly better speaker so
und, better signal
rejection but is missing 560 MHZ - 750 MHZ.

Is there anything of interest in the 560-750 mhz range?


George Sambataro


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Hi all.

   I have a 440-470 Saber III and was wondering how to extend the Rx
band upper limit to, oh say, 509Mhz? Rx only. I've heard of tricks that
do so but I have no details myself. Any help would be great. Thanks very
much.


                                           Matt D.

--
First they came for the hackers. But I never did anything
    illegal with my computer, so I didn't speak up.
Then they came for the pornographers. But I thought there was
    too much smut on the Internet anyway, so I didn't speak up.
Then they came for the anonymous remailers. But a lot of nasty
    stuff gets sent from anon.penet.fi, so I didn't speak up.
Then they came for the encryption users. But I could never
    figure out how to work PGP anyway, so I didn't speak up.
Then they came for me. And by that time there was no one left
    to speak up.
                   It can happen folks
                                                 (SIOP-ESI)


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[e-mail](George L. Vetterle) wrote:

>Glen,
>
>Why don't you elaborate and tell us all EXACTLY what went on behind the
>scenes on Fidonet?  Were you or were you not kicked out of Bill's echo?
> If so, why?  If, indeed, you are an ejectee, you are not the first to
>come into this news group raising hell with Bill afterwards.  Andy
>Moss, Hugh Duff and John Mackey have already done it.  Mackey seems to
>be the only one left.  You place yourself in good company. Carry on.

If memory serves, Quarnstrom was not ejected from the SCANRADIO forum
on Fidonet.  He popped in to do some "technical potshooting" at me,
and didn't like it when I disagreed with him.  He got  snotty and was
warned about it.

Then he disappeared.  End of story until recently when he found his
way onto the newsgroup here.

Summing it all up.....Quarnstrom is NOT a participant; he's just an
instigator and troublemaker.

Bill Cheek
Scannist Extraordinaire



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From: [e-mail] (Tim Bohr (R))
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Subject: Question on RS 3V Transformer
Date: 15 Oct 1996 13:59:57 GMT
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I've got a couple of old Radio Shack "Silent Play" FM
transmitters that I like to hook up to my two scanners
and listen to the activity on a small beater FM unit
around the house.

I'd like to convert these Silent Play units to use 3V DC
from a wall transformer (they currently use 2 AAA's).

 I've got an adjustable transformer (12V-3V
various increments) and it works well on the 3V setting,
however there is a hum on the output of the scanner that is
not there when using AAA batteries.

I see RS has some transformers in the 9V range and something
on the box is advertised "reduced line hum" or something like
that. I'd like to use their little 3V ones if possible, but they
don't have that claim.

Any tips on reducing this hum? Also, should the power supply be
regulated, and how? And should something be put inbetween the
transmitter/power supply and scanner to prevent the scanner from
being fried from the $25 PS/transmitter setup?

Please email if possible, I don't get to the newsgroups often.
Thanks.

Tim Bohr



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From: [e-mail] (m. mattson)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Question on RS 3V Transformer
Date: Fri, 18 Oct 1996 04:12:02 GMT
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>I'd like to convert these Silent Play units to use 3V DC
>from a wall transformer (they currently use 2 AAA's).

> I've got an adjustable transformer (12V-3V
>various increments) and it works well on the 3V setting,
>however there is a hum on the output of the scanner that is
>not there when using AAA batteries.

The basic problem is that the transformer is not well regulated and/or
filtered,  You can conquer this by putting regulation between the
transformer and device.  Use a 7805 or similar regulator, and set the
transformer output to 7.5 volts.  There shouldn't be a problem running
the devices at 5 volts.  If you're concerned, put a Zener after the
regulator to drop it down to 3.

Mark

The truth as I perceive it to be.
Your perception will be different.




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From: Tom West <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Radar Detector Repair
Date: 16 Oct 1996 18:32:34 GMT
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I am looking to see if Bel Electronics performs calibration adjustments on
their units. Upon checking with Circuit City they state it would cost $100
just to check the unit. I don't believe this price is correct since one can
buy a new one for a little more. If anyone knows I would appreciate a line.


From [e-mail] Sat Oct 19 10:47:55 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Michael Alexander)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: re Pro-51
Date: Fri, 11 Oct 1996 06:19:41 -0400
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In article <53gufd$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Scared
Poet) wrote:

> : codes into it's memories, some of these codes are in the 'locked out'
> : freqs, and the scanner will scan them.  The problem is I was under the
> : understanding that after these test codes were in the memory banks you
> : could direect-enter any frequency, but this doesn't seem to be the
> : case.  Was this limited to an earler release of the scanner?? Mine is
> : about 8 months old.
>
>         From what I've been told about the mod, there's no direct entry
> for the blocked out bands.  WHat you have to do is find the frequency you
> want by going into the channel that has an "unblocked" frequency that's
> int he same range, do a direct search, and when you find it, store it into
> a monitor memory.  And from there, you have to program the frequency from
> the monitor into the channel you want.

It depends on the date of the scanner's manufacture. I'm sorry, I can't
tell you what the cut off date is, but that "mod" cannot be done with
models that have been sold in the past year or so.

--
Michael Alexander
[e-mail]


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From: ****@*********.*** (Blues Player)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: re Pro-51
Date: Sat, 12 Oct 1996 00:28:37 GMT
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On Tue, 08 Oct 1996 13:39:01 -0400, Brian Karas <[e-mail]>
wrote:
>I found a keypad code for the Pro-51 (2,9,L/O) that will program test
>codes into it's memories, some of these codes are in the 'locked out'
>freqs, and the scanner will scan them.  The problem is I was under the
>understanding that after these test codes were in the memory banks you
>could direect-enter any frequency, but this doesn't seem to be the
>case.  Was this limited to an earler release of the scanner?? Mine is
>about 8 months old.
>Does anybody have any mods to open up this scanner, or did I miss
>something??
>
>Thanx...

If your Pro-51 is truly 8 months old (manufacturing date) then the mod
(code) will probably not work. If you enter the code and the frequency
range is in place you can do the following to capture the upper and
lower limits of this range:
Caution: entering the key code wipes out all stored memory
locations!!!

1. Enter the key code (2,9,L/O).
2. Manually scan to the lower limits of the frequency range (keep the
squelch down so you step through the range as approach the limits).
3. At the lower end of the range, store the frequency into one of the
ten monitor locations by pressing the monitor key.
4. Repeat the above for the upper end of the frequency range, also
storing it into a monitor cell MON.
5. Finally, program the two monitor cell locations into one (each) of
the two hundred storage locations by:
Press Program
Enter storage location
Scan through the 10 MON locations for the lower limit stored
Press enter to store it.
Repeat the above for the upper limit.

To access the cell range, simply program a lower and upper limit and,
using the arrow keys scan between the two.

When you find a frequency that you also want to save (such as a
police frequency - we have a few in our area) store them into one of
the ten MON locations and then program them into a storage location.

This worked for me, although I would prefer a more permanent fix but
that's why I ordered the AR2700.

Blues Player



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From: [e-mail] (Jimmy Simmons)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: REALAUDIO BROADCASTING
Date: 17 Oct 1996 06:09:45 -0500
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   I normally don't post questions until I have done my own searching...

 I have found a limited amount of broadcasting on the internet using
RealAudio player...  What I am looking for is all webpages which contain
RA broadcasts featuring two-way broadcasts, either shortwave, or FM
signals..

  Currently I found a link with 24 hours Dallas/Ft Worth Air Traffic Control

 and Voice of America....

   I'm looking for pages with public-safety orintated broadcasts, and more
utility/shortwave broadcasts...  Any information known to you would be very
much greatly appricated posted on here...  I prefer LIVE broadcasts, but I
will be interested in all....
--
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From [e-mail] Sat Oct 19 10:47:58 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Joe J. Budion, IV)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: REALAUDIO BROADCASTING
Date: Thu, 17 Oct 1996 20:32:53 GMT
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There is Chicago Ohare Approach at http://www.cyberair.com click on
Faa/Control Tower and click on live RA broadcast.  What is the DFW
address?

Joe

[e-mail] (Jimmy Simmons) wrote:


>   I normally don't post questions until I have done my own searching...

> I have found a limited amount of broadcasting on the internet using
>RealAudio player...  What I am looking for is all webpages which contain
>RA broadcasts featuring two-way broadcasts, either shortwave, or FM
>signals..

>  Currently I found a link with 24 hours Dallas/Ft Worth Air Traffic Control

> and Voice of America....

>   I'm looking for pages with public-safety orintated broadcasts, and more
>utility/shortwave broadcasts...  Any information known to you would be very
>much greatly appricated posted on here...  I prefer LIVE broadcasts, but I
>will be interested in all....
>--
>|=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=|
>|The NeXus, [e-mail]  www.datasync.com/nexus|
>|=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=|

_______________________
Joe J. Budion, IV
Sylvania, OH 43560 USA
[e-mail]
[e-mail]



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Date: Thu, 17 Oct 1996 19:23:46 GMT
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In article <54545p$[e-mail]>, Jimmy Simmons ([e-mail])
writes:
>
>   I normally don't post questions until I have done my own searching...
>
> I have found a limited amount of broadcasting on the internet using
>RealAudio player...  What I am looking for is all webpages which contain
>RA broadcasts featuring two-way broadcasts, either shortwave, or FM
>signals..
>
>  Currently I found a link with 24 hours Dallas/Ft Worth Air Traffic Control
>
> and Voice of America....
>
>   I'm looking for pages with public-safety orintated broadcasts, and more
>utility/shortwave broadcasts...  Any information known to you would be very
>much greatly appricated posted on here...  I prefer LIVE broadcasts, but I
>will be interested in all....
>--
>|=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=|
>|The NeXus, [e-mail]  www.datasync.com/nexus|
>|=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=|
>

I have a lot of links to radio stations on my website, both
international and UK based.

Many have real-audio facilities, but I have not marked which - I
keep meaning to do this since I enjoy Internet radio.  There are
also links to sites that do a better job (for now :-) from my site.

Anyone is welcome to drop in.

Simon

--
Simon Collings, G4SGI
Radio Communications Consultant
http://www.ibmpcug.co.uk/~g4sgi/






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Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: REALAUDIO BROADCASTING
Date: 18 Oct 1996 00:57:04 -0500
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  Thanks, I just loaded that url up, and I'm going to check it out...  So far
just the O'hare Airport and DFW International..  which I'm listening to right
now.. Comes in clear..  I'm going to crank up the Kenwoood TS-450 when I get
off of work and monitor the next Hurricane Hunter's operation with Hurricane
Lili out just on the edge of the Gulf where I live...

  BTW,  Huricane Hunter information can be
        found at their new webpage on my server

   www.hurricanehunters.com  or  www.datasync.com/~hhunters

 Covers their schedules for flight synopsis etc...

--------------------
Simon Collings ([e-mail]) wrote:
: I have a lot of links to radio stations on my website, both
: international and UK based.
:
: Many have real-audio facilities, but I have not marked which - I
: keep meaning to do this since I enjoy Internet radio.  There are
: also links to sites that do a better job (for now :-) from my site.
: Anyone is welcome to drop in.
: Simon
: --
: Simon Collings, G4SGI
: Radio Communications Consultant
: http://www.ibmpcug.co.uk/~g4sgi/
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From: [e-mail] (Jimmy Simmons)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: REALAUDIO BROADCASTING
Date: 18 Oct 1996 01:02:13 -0500
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Joe J. Budion, IV ([e-mail]) wrote:
: There is Chicago Ohare Approach at http://www.cyberair.com click on
: Faa/Control Tower and click on live RA broadcast.  What is the DFW
: address?
: Joe

   Answered this in email, but for the useage of everyone else reading here it
 is:

   http://www.simuflite.com

   Click on the AudioNet icon for Live transmission, this is the Dallas Fort W
orth Int. ATC..
 Real Audio 2.0 or 1.0 will do, its only 14.4bps transmissions.. LIVE...

   O'Hare is offline till about the 29th of October for hardware/software upgr
ades....

   The NeXus!
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From [e-mail] Sat Oct 19 10:48:02 1996
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From: John Mackey KA0SSF <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: rec.radio.scanner.CHEEKS?
Date: Sat, 12 Oct 1996 22:55:53 -0700
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Patriot wrote:
> Ignoring a pest will rid you of it.

I want to thank you for your advice.  I put Blake Bowers
in my Killfile & it's been great.  Thanks.




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From: [e-mail] (tyler)
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In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] says...
>
>Patriot wrote:
>> Ignoring a pest will rid you of it.
>
>I want to thank you for your advice.  I put Blake Bowers
>in my Killfile & it's been great.  Thanks.
>
>Hey John boy, how about telling the computer illiterate how to make a kill
file so we can get rid of you?  tyler



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Subject: Re: Recommend a handheld scanner?
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Terry Calof wrote:
>
> I am looking to buy a handheld scanner. I am tired of and disappointed in
> using my 2m HT for scanning. I would like something that covers almost
> everything (100kHz-1200 Mhz) with cell unblocked. Atlantic Ham Radio in
> Toronto has advertised an AOR AR-2700 at $499 Cdn ($375 US). Is this a
> good choice, or can I do better for the money? Any suggestions based on
> ownership? Thanks, Terry

--
MZÉ
Terry,    I got Yupiteru  MVT7100  from Atlantic Ham radio last year and
its a great radio,  full coverage,  very sensitive,   shortwave all the
way to the gigahertz....     cellular,  cordless,  cb   vhf   police
air,, you name it.  the Yupiteru will receive it.   Unless you live in
a big city like Honolulu  or New York  its too sensitve  it will jam up
with noise.. Other than that Its nearly a perfect radio,
                                                Cheers,
                                                [e-mail]


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From: [e-mail] (George Sambataro)
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Subject: Recommendation for Handheld scanner
Date: Mon, 14 Oct 1996 19:39:00 GMT
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HI.

My son recently destroyed my BC200 and I would like to replace it.

I would like to get a similar scanner that has the ability to be
modified to receive the cellular freqs and has a fairly low scan step
rate.  I am willing to spend more this time  (300-400$).

What would you recommend?

Thanks,

George



From [e-mail] Sat Oct 19 10:48:06 1996
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Subject: Re: Recommendation for Handheld scanner
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George,
   For your price range, if you really need cellular then I would
suggest a Pro-43
which is an excellent receiver and can be easily modified. However,
since you are
willing to pay this amount of money, I would suggest getting a newer
model which
today come with a lot more features and dynamite receivers.
   You can get a Pro-26 in the upper $300 range(or if lucky on sale at
Rat Shack for
$350) or the BC-3000 in the lower $300 range via mail order. Pro-60s,
which are
identical to the trusty 43 with a few more features, can be had on sale
at Rat
Shack for $250; a very sweet deal if I say so myself!
   If this is going to be your only scanner, I would stay away from the
AR-2700...
although the current pricing is nice(low $200 range), they are hard to
find since
they have been discontinued and have too many quirks. You'd be much
happier with
a Pro-26 or BC-3000.

Strong signals,
Rich Wells
N2MCA
Owner : Pro-34/43/60/26/2006/2042 BC-3000/9000 AR-2700/8000 MVT-7100 R-1
Former Owner : Pro-51 BCT-7 BC-8500
North Carolina editor
The Scanner Club
http://www.enter.net/~jheller/scanclub.html

George Sambataro wrote:
> My son recently destroyed my BC200 and I would like to replace it.
>
> I would like to get a similar scanner that has the ability to be
> modified to receive the cellular freqs and has a fairly low scan step
> rate.  I am willing to spend more this time  (300-400$).
>
> What would you recommend?


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From: [e-mail] (nigel thain)
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[e-mail] (nigel thain) wrote:

>Can anyone tell me how long it normally takes from posting your money
>to receiving the registered key file on email ???
>Just getting a bit impatient (he says wide eyed rubbing his hands with
>anticipation)
>
>
>Nige
>
Well I can tell you ...... 34 hours (and a few minutes) from posting
in a letter box to reception of key file via internet.

Thanks pete.
Keep up the good work

Nige


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Can anyone tell me how long it normally takes from posting your money
to receiving the registered key file on email ???
Just getting a bit impatient (he says wide eyed rubbing his hands with
anticipation)


Nige



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From: [e-mail] (Jeff Zeman)
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Subject: Re: Repost:Best Apartment antennae
Date: Fri, 11 Oct 1996 15:54:00 GMT
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John Mackey KA0SSF <[e-mail]> wrote:

>Bill Cheek wrote:
>> A magnet mount whip on a balcony railing or glummed to the top of a
>> heating duct or refrigerator is about as good as any.  Or make your
>> own Off Center Fed Dipole, instructions for which I posted here
>> recently.


>hehehheehhahaahahahhehe

>Bill you don't understand how coax works but you are going to
>tell people how to build antennas.

>hehehehehehehe
> Now I've heard everything
>hehehehe

>What next, are you going to tell surgeons how to operate?


So I'm confused? Do you have a better idea?



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From [e-mail] Sat Oct 19 10:48:10 1996
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From: Mike Mayer <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: req: Richmond Hts,OH (CLEVE)
Date: Thu, 17 Oct 1996 14:10:17 GMT
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In article <53me13$[e-mail]>,
        [e-mail] (TiChenjago) wrote:

>Does anyone know police/fire/etc Richmond Hts, OH.  Betty bearcat, AES
>books have either old or wrong listings.  Thanks in advance for any help.
>    Paul

 Try this site... lots of N. Ohio frequencies.

http://www.panix.com/~clay/scanning/frequencies/states



From [e-mail] Sat Oct 19 10:48:11 1996
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Subject: REQ= pro2011 mods???
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Once again I am looking to find ANY mods for the pro2011 scanner.
Yes, I know its a cheap old piece of trash, but since I do have it, I'd
like to tweak it a little if possible.      Is there anywhere I can find
the information I'm looking for?????             Thanks to anyone who can
help me out.


 JAmes

---
 * WaveRdr 1.10 [NR] * UNREGISTERED EVALUATION COPY


From [e-mail] Sat Oct 19 10:48:12 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Donald Wiggins)
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Subject: RS scanners
Date: Wed, 16 Oct 1996 05:52:43 -0400
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I'm the proud owner of a RS Pro-2036 and a Pro-2037 base scanners. I really
enjoy them and they work well. Can these particular scanners be modified in
any way? The manual of the 2036 shows how to install a CTCSS tone board.
What exactly does this do? Any other mods would be appreciated. Thanks in
advance...
Donnie
[e-mail]


From [e-mail] Sat Oct 19 10:48:12 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Fred Greaves)
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Subject: San Diego or Imp. County Scanner users
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I'm looking for people that listen to scanners in San Diego and Imperial
County along the border. If you are bilingual and listen to Mexican
frequencies, that's even better. I am a news photographer that is willing
to pay for the right border related news tips. Please email me if you are
interested.

[e-mail]


From [e-mail] Sat Oct 19 10:48:13 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Bill Cheek)
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Subject: Scanner Club Info Needed Now!
Date: Fri, 11 Oct 1996 14:33:29 GMT
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ATTENTION ALL SCANNER CLUB MEMBERS:

I am presently typesetting a major new book on the radio monitoring
hobby, (no, I'm not the author), and have enough "white space" left to
include information on regional and local scanner clubs.

I would appreciate your IMMEDIATE feedback by e-mail with data on any
and all scanner clubs and "notification networks as follows:

Name of Organization:
 Contact Person Name:
             Address:
      City/State/Zip:
         Voice Phone:
           Fax Phone:
           BBS Phone:
              E-Mail:
            WWW page:
            Comments:

This information is needed ASAP, preferably before this coming Monday.
Thanks in advance.

Bill Cheek
[e-mail]



From [e-mail] Sat Oct 19 10:48:15 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Kevin Leffler)
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Subject: Re: Scanner Club Info Needed Now!
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>I would appreciate your IMMEDIATE feedback by e-mail with data on any
>and all scanner clubs and "notification networks as follows:

I don't know if it counts, but I am a member of a club on AOL. Also I
subscribe to a "Club" publication. Heres the info for both:

Name of Organization:Thursday Night American Scanner Scanner Conf.
 Contact Person Name:Terry Stader
             Address:
      City/State/Zip:
         Voice Phone:
           Fax Phone:
           BBS Phone:
              E-Mail:[e-mail]
            WWW page:
            Comments:


Name of Organization:The Scanner Club
 Contact Person Name:Les Mattson
             Address:P.O. Box 62
      City/State/Zip:Gibbstown, N.J. 08027
         Voice Phone:
           Fax Phone:
           BBS Phone:
              E-Mail:[e-mail]
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            Comments:The above e-mail is not les's. It is actually Jeff
bixby's e-mail address. Jeff is the assistant editor and would know les's
current e-mail address.



From [e-mail] Sat Oct 19 10:48:16 1996
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From: Sean Dorn <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Scanner Freqs for Fresno, CA
Date: Tue, 15 Oct 1996 17:44:53 -0700
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Hello,

     I just purchased my first scanner and would like to know if anyone
knows the basic scanner frequencies for the Fresno, California area? If
you reply, please also e-mail your response to me also so that I don't
miss it. Thanks.

                        Sean Dorn
                        [e-mail]



From [e-mail] Sat Oct 19 10:48:17 1996
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From: Dave Booth <[e-mail]>
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Date: Wed, 16 Oct 1996 12:14:27 -0700
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Sean Dorn wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
>      I just purchased my first scanner and would like to know if anyone
> knows the basic scanner frequencies for the Fresno, California area? If
> you reply, please also e-mail your response to me also so that I don't
> miss it. Thanks.
>
>                         Sean Dorn
>                         [e-mail]

Do a search here..
http://www.perconcorp.com/db_srch.htm


http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/5860
--
Dave Booth


From [e-mail] Sat Oct 19 10:48:18 1996
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From: "E. Scott Sykes" <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: scanner software
Date: Fri, 11 Oct 1996 22:45:58 -0300
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To: OLLIE FLINT <[e-mail]>

OLLIE FLINT wrote:
>
> I  have a new Pro 2006 and would like to marry it to my computer.
>
> What would be the best choice for a interface and sofware combo ?
> what are the features and advantages?
> can any one that has winradio  tell me how it would compare?
>
> Thanks,
> Ollie Flint


Hello Ollie,
 It is my opinion that the OS456 is the best interface if you don't mind leavi
ng the scanner hooked up to the
computer. While this makes mobile operations a little more difficult it is the
 most usefull. OS456 is also the
best choice if you would like to scan by tone or scan by signal strength. The
CE232 is a good choice if you
want to run your scanner away from the computer. Now don't let me confuse you,
 the CE232 does require a
computer to operate but it can load frequencies into the scanner for those tim
es you wish to use it without
the computer. The OS456 cannot do this.

The CE232 requires proprietary software to operate and the software leaves alo
t to be desired but very
fuctional and reliable. It does have a few features that the others don't have
. The ability to write your own
radio operation scripts and 4 addressable switches and more...(Bill insert you
r ad here)

I have tested a number of software packages that work with the OS456 and would
 like to say that the Scan*Star
for Windows Plus would be the best. Others may say that the Probe 2.0 software
 would be the best. I don't know
as the author has not released a demo version. Probe operates under DOS, but c
an run under a window. Scan*Star
requires windows.

There, you have read my biased point of view concerning your question.
I own 2 2006s I have an OS456 in one and a HB(CE)232 in the other.
Next week I will be removing the HB(CE)232 and installing another OS456. Then
I will reconfigure both of the
scanners for use with the HB(CE)232.
I depend on the Scan*Star program as my work horse and let it create files tha
t I load into the scanner with
the HB(CE)232 for those times I can't cruise around with a laptop on the conso
le. I write my own scripts and
was a "charlie" tester with the origial version HB232 and a beta tester with t
he VADER hardware/software
recorder.

As for the WinRadio I only know what I have read and played with at EEB.
HF = Good deal, it has Sideband!
VHF/UHF = not ready for prime time
Put your $600 towards a AR8000 and then order Scan*Star Plus. If you
care WinRadio is not Cellular capable, AR8000 can be.

Good luck and let me know what your final purchases are.

Scott


From [e-mail] Sat Oct 19 10:48:19 1996
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From: "E. Scott Sykes" <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: scanner software HB(CE)232
Date: Sat, 12 Oct 1996 10:03:41 -0300
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[e-mail] wrote:
>
> I have the CE-232 interface, and am completely happy with it.  It is not
> as simple to install as other products, but it offers the hacker some
> possibilities not available with others.
>
> The Ce-232 allows one to write scripts for the interface that tell the
> scanner and computer to do custom functions.  I wrote one for mine that
> will wait for a specific frequency to become active (such as the aircraft
> emergency freq of 121.500, or a tactical frequency used by a PD.)  Once it
> detects activity, it reprograms the last bank with related frequencies,
> locks out all the other banks, and turns on the recorder.  It will
> continue in that mode until no activity is heard on any of the
> frequencies for a user defined amount of time.  Once that time limit is
> reached, it reprograms the scanner just the way it was before all of this
> happened.  That way I can have the thing chug away as normal while I am
> gone, and still have a certain amount of control over what is recorded.
>
> The CE-232 actually reprograms the memory in the scanner, unlike other
> interfaces that use the computer's memory for frequency retention.  With
> the CE-232, you can program it, unhook it, and it will stay that way.  It
> is quite useful if you travel with your scanner.  I have various frequency
> lists for the areas to which I drive, and when I plan to head out to other
> states I simply program it for that area and then toss it in the car and
> away I go.  Other interfaces won't let you do that.  With those, you would
> have to program it manually if you planned on using it on the
> road...unless you have a lap top computer!
>
> The CE-232 won't decode PL tones, and isn't quite as fancy as some others,
> but it is a very utilitarian interface.
>
> Bill Cheek is the designer and retailer for the CE-232.  Commtronics
> Engineering is his business name.  He's on the internet.
>
> Andy

Want to trade scripts?


From [e-mail] Sat Oct 19 10:48:20 1996
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From: Warren Whitby III <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: Scanners on a Cruise???
Date: Mon, 14 Oct 1996 20:37:58 -0700
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[e-mail] wrote:
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> [e-mail] wrote:
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> >Has anyone ever taken their scanner with them on a Cruise?

When I went on a cruise in 1990 on Carnival's Mardi Gras, the ship's
officers were Italian, and used their VHF radios to speak to each other
in Italian.  My scanner wouldn't have been much good then.

Warren Whitby


From [e-mail] Sat Oct 19 10:48:21 1996
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Subject: Re: Scanners on a Cruise???
Date: Mon, 14 Oct 1996 22:33:18 -0500
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[e-mail] wrote:
>
> [e-mail] wrote:
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> >Has anyone ever taken their scanner with them on a Cruise?

Dear Anonid,
I'd program all the maritime (VHF) freqs in the scanner, 156.XX etc. I'd
also buy the radio shack frequency counter I saw advertised on this board
for $45.00 and take that along for the onboard coms.
Mark



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From: [e-mail] (James R. Quinby)
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Subject: Re: Scanners on a Cruise???
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The only problem you'll run into is that the crews (and I was on a
Carnival Cruise, also) rarely speak English. Lots of Asians, Latinos,
etc.

For ship-to-shore telephone stuff, you'll need a SW radio.  I bought
one while we were on our honeymoon, but the ship puts out so much
interference, it wasn't much good. INMARSAT is a little more
complicated. About the only marine band VHF stuff I heard was around
San Juan, and it was mostly US Coast Guard. And I was too busy with
other stuff anyway.

I didn't worry about leaving it in the room, (there's a safe you can
use in the stateroom) but if we ever take another cruise, I'll leave
the radio behind.

By the way, the radio room on the ship is (sort of) open to the
public. You can go up there to place phone calls, or just hang around
and watch the operator work (which is what I did one night). Don't
miss the tour of the bridge, either. You'd be suprised at how little
there is up there. The big ships practically run themselves. They
handed out little technical sheets that listed all the gizmos, the
shipyards where it was built, etc.

Have a good trip! And watch out for the nickel slots!

Jay Q.



On Wed, 09 Oct 1996 21:29:32 GMT, [e-mail] wrote:

>Has anyone ever taken their scanner with them on a Cruise? Vacation
>time is coming up at the end of the month, and the wife and I are off
>on a 7 day Carnival Cruise of the western Carribbean on the
>Imagination, and I am wondering if I could/should take my AR8K/Scout
>combo.



From [e-mail] Sat Oct 19 10:48:22 1996
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From: Charles Pringle <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Scout & AR-8000
Date: 18 Oct 1996 14:04:31 GMT
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1.  What is the sequence needed to allow the AR-8000 to auto detect the
correct mode (AM, NFM, etc) of the signal sent from the Scout?  I
remember someone mentioning a sequence that allowed the receiver to do
this.

2.  What is an optional source for the N100 (or equivalent) FM trap sold
by Opto?  Their price seems too high.



From [e-mail] Sat Oct 19 10:48:23 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Steve Work)
Subject: Re: Scout & AR-8000
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Charles Pringle ([e-mail]) wrote:
: 1.  What is the sequence needed to allow the AR-8000 to auto detect the
: correct mode (AM, NFM, etc) of the signal sent from the Scout?  I
: remember someone mentioning a sequence that allowed the receiver to do
: this.

The AR8000 itself sets its mode based on the frequency chosen.  This is
determined by a "bandplan" which is programmed into the radio.  The Scout
only determines the frequency of the detected signal, it is not capable
of determining the modulation method.  The Scout commands the radio to
tune to the detected frequency, the radio then sets itself to the proper
mode for this frequency according to its bandplan.

: 2.  What is an optional source for the N100 (or equivalent) FM trap sold
: by Opto?  Their price seems too high.

Mini-circuits might be an option, www.minicircuits.com


From [e-mail] Sat Oct 19 10:48:24 1996
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From: [e-mail] (regor)
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Subject: shareware
Date: 13 Oct 1996 09:24:32 GMT
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Hello

have someone information for me about some adresses for shareware
in the internet for the topic scanner and frequencies only for area
germany

thanks


From [e-mail] Sat Oct 19 10:48:25 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Dave Long)
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Subject: Shawn Walsh: Please E-Mail me.
Date: Fri, 18 Oct 1996 19:15:29 GMT
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Need your email address.
Dave



From [e-mail] Sat Oct 19 10:48:26 1996
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From: "Michel Van Goethem" <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Signal Generator second hand wanted
Date: 15 Oct 1996 11:57:06 GMT
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I am in search for a second hand:
1. Signal Generator AM-FM stereo 19-110MHz
    Digital level adjustement 20 dBmV - 100 dBmV open circuit
    Impedance 50 ohms
    Modulator 400 Hz - 1kHz

2. AF-mVmeter

3. AF-sinus generator 1 kHz 115 mV

Please fax me with prices ** 32 3 238 7708
MOBELEC
Ronny Demetsenaere
Gijzelaarsstraat 72
2000 Antwerpen
 tel: [phone]

or e-mail [e-mail]

or via newsgroup


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From: "Michel Van Goethem" <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Signal Generator Second hand wanted
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I am in search for a second hand:

1.Signal generator AM-FM Stereo 19-110 MHz
  Digital level adjustement 20 dBmV - 100 dBmv open circuit
  Impedance 50 ohms
 Modulation 400 Hz - 1 kHz

2. AF - mVmeter

3. AF sinus generator 1kHz 115 mV

Demetsenaere Ronny
Gijzelaarstraat 72
2000  Antwerpen
belgium

preference :
tel: [phone]
fax: [phone]

or
email [e-mail]

or newsgroup


From [e-mail] Sat Oct 19 10:48:28 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Ted Kell)
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Subject: Re: Small investment with a Big return, not a scam
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In article <[e-mail]>, Carl Lowry <[e-mail]> wrote:

> [e-mail] wrote:
> >
> > "Patrick D. Lukens" <[e-mail]> wrote:
> >
> > >Danny Allen wrote:
> > >>  I saw an article in an internet newsgroup telling me
> > >>  I could make $50,000 within a month for an investment of only $5.
>
> Very interesting. This is a pyramid scam which is prosecutable by the U.
> S. Postal Inspectors under Title 18, United States Code. Why do we allow
> these guys to crum up the Internet with these scams?  Carl

I don't.  I send the post back to the posters sysadmin (postmaster@xxx).
For every 3 I send back, I get about 1 reply saying that the account has
been canceled.  Perhaps the others get acted upon.

Furthermore, I have started copying the post and sending by FAX a copy to
the local office of the USPS Postal inspection service.  I don't get
anything back, but maybe they can help.

Ted


From [e-mail] Sat Oct 19 10:48:29 1996
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From: [e-mail] (CatDaddy)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc,rec.radio.shortwave,rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Software decoding of FSK modulated signal
Date: Sat, 12 Oct 1996 00:13:59 GMT
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Hey, I agree -- good luck with the programming and let us know when
it's ready -- I, too, am tired of all these add on boxes and cables!!

Michael

On Wed, 02 Oct 1996 12:10:28 -0400, Gerry Moersdorf <[e-mail]>
wrote:

>Peter Onion wrote:
>>
>> Daniel Ayers ([e-mail]) wrote:
>> : Hello Everyone,
>> :
>> : I am developing a program to decode FSK modulated signals using a
>> : SoundBlaster soundcard.  The plan is to digitize the signal from the
>> : radio's audio output and then analyse it in software to produce binary
>> : data for further analysis.
>> [SNIP]:
>       Hey this is a great idea, the entire world has a soundcard.  im tired
>of the "box clutter" in my swl site and would love to trash the decoder
>de' jour from aea.  while ur writing the software,, make it for swl'ers
>,, that is a dx'er's interface not a ham interface.  so it needs hf /
>vhf frequency storage with point and click interface on win 95,, use win
>95 soundblaster drivers, support all modes with one program and
>selectable interface including cw / fax / amtor / baudo, etc.  have a
>"signal acquisition mode" like AEA that's actually worth a shit.
>automatic controls on freq shifts baudrate and bit inversion.  automatic
>audio level controls via stock soundblaster interface.  hey,, u want my
>$100 bucks up front?
>
>--
>Gerry Moersdorf, President/CEO
>                Applied Innovation INC
>                5800 Innovation Dr, Dublin OH 800-247-9482
>



From [e-mail] Sat Oct 19 10:48:29 1996
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From: Tom Montgomery <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: SOLD
Date: Thu, 17 Oct 1996 14:12:48 -0700
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Tom Montgomery wrote:
>
> Have for sale GRE handheld antenna amplifier with new battery and AC
> adapter.  Works on base units too. I bought new for 69.00 will sell for
> 35.00.If you live in SF Bay area I'll meet you half way to deliver. If
> not e-mail. Also looking for Diamond Discone Antenna in good condition.
>
> Monty
>
> [e-mail]

Sold, Thanks....


From [e-mail] Sat Oct 19 10:48:30 1996
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From: [e-mail]
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Subject: Southern California
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Does anyone have frequencies for Azusa, Baldwin Park, Covina, Glendora,
La Verne, Pomona, or West Covina?  Primarily after police, but also fire.
If anyone does, I'd appreciate your posting 'em.  Thanks in advance.


From [e-mail] Sat Oct 19 10:48:31 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Anthony O. Cardenas ~ WA6IGJ)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner,alt.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Southern California
Date: Tue, 15 Oct 1996 19:42:49 GMT
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Do yourself a favor!

Get a copy of  POLICE CALL 1996.  NOT the same as the Police Call as
sold in Radio Shack... don't settle, don't be fooled!

Get it at Jun's Electronics or Henry Radio, both in Los Angeles.

You will thank me!

Uncle T.
WA6IGJ

On Sun, 13 Oct 1996 10:20:04 -0700, [e-mail] wrote:

>Does anyone have frequencies for Azusa, Baldwin Park, Covina, Glendora,
>La Verne, Pomona, or West Covina?  Primarily after police, but also fire.
>If anyone does, I'd appreciate your posting 'em.  Thanks in advance.



From [e-mail] Sat Oct 19 10:48:32 1996
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From: [e-mail] (John Moran)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner,alt.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Southern California
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I have then on CD-ROM and also in a database, ALL the southern cal
frequencies take up about 5mb uncompressed....about 700k compressed!
JOHN

[e-mail] wrote:
: Does anyone have frequencies for Azusa, Baldwin Park, Covina, Glendora,
: La Verne, Pomona, or West Covina?  Primarily after police, but also fire.
: If anyone does, I'd appreciate your posting 'em.  Thanks in advance.

--
---
JOHN/PHX ([e-mail]) computing & making good Chemistry!
-------



From [e-mail] Sat Oct 19 10:48:33 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Steve Silverwood)
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Subject: Re: Southern California
Date: Wed, 16 Oct 1996 01:13:24 GMT
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Pick up a copy of the ScanFan book -- it has all this stuff and a lot
more.

[e-mail] wrote:

>Does anyone have frequencies for Azusa, Baldwin Park, Covina, Glendora,
>La Verne, Pomona, or West Covina?  Primarily after police, but also fire.
>If anyone does, I'd appreciate your posting 'em.  Thanks in advance.


-- //Steve//

Steve Silverwood         Toshiba America Information Systems
CompuServe: 76703,3035   Internet: [e-mail]
America Online: KB6OJS   Homepage: http://home.earthlink.net/~kb6ojs/



From [e-mail] Sat Oct 19 10:48:34 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Steve St. Denis)
Subject: Re: Southern California
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[e-mail] wrote:

>Does anyone have frequencies for Azusa, Baldwin Park, Covina, Glendora,
>La Verne, Pomona, or West Covina?  Primarily after police, but also fire.
>If anyone does, I'd appreciate your posting 'em.  Thanks in advance.
If you have not found these frequencies yet, you can try my web page.
I have a page there that has lots of web pages with scanner
frequencies on them you may find your frequencies on one of these web
pages !


Regards,
Steve St. Denis
E-Mail Address: [e-mail]
Scanner Radio Web Page: http://www.iaw.on.ca/~sstdenis
Fort Erie Ontario Canada



From [e-mail] Sat Oct 19 10:48:35 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Jerry)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Speach Inversion
Date: Sun, 13 Oct 1996 01:02:48 GMT
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On Wed, 09 Oct 1996 00:01:06 -0700, Randall Fox <[e-mail]>
wrote:

>Does anyone know how to defeat speach inversion?  Is it possible?
>
> Randall Fox
>


Tap into the IF output of your scanner/receiver and input this to an
HF receiver.  Tune to whatever the IF frequency is, 455Khz, 10.7Mhz,
whatever.  And use USB or LSB mode.  It does work.  I have used this
method to tune into a local Taxi company that uses freq inversion
scrambling.  It is not the clearest audio, but it can be understood.

Jerry

Lineage = 18Q9116 / KAVN9927
Mine = KBMD9044

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From [e-mail] Sat Oct 19 10:48:36 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Duane Anderson)
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Subject: Springfield, OR - Digital Full Time
Date: Sat, 12 Oct 1996 03:18:30 GMT
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October 9, 1996
Springfield, Oregon city police began transmitting in digital mode.
Although newspaper reports indicate the transmissions are not
encrypted, scanner users are in the dark until a digital mode receiver
hits the market.

Springfield not only has shut out citizens, but neighborhood watch
groups, fire depts, volunteer fireman, REACT members, not to mention
the Oregon State Police, Lane County Sheriffs office and the City of
Eugene police, all who work closely with SPD.

Suprisingly, today, 10/11/96, they have been in analog mode.  Some
testing has been done in digital mode on secondary channels however.

For an update on Springfield (the only known digital PD in Oregon), go
to the URL  http://www.clipper.net/~scanrite/springfield.html

Duane
Lane County Scanner Guide
http://www.clipper.net/~scanrite


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From: [e-mail] (Duane Anderson)
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Subject: Springfield, OR - Digital Timeline
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For those following the Springfield, Oregon police full digital saga,
I now have a timeline page at
http://www.clipper.net/~scanrite/springtime.html

For those wanting more info on Springfield, see
http://www.clipper.net/~scanrite/springfield.html


Duane
Lane County Scanner Guide
http://www.clipper.net/~scanrite


From [e-mail] Sat Oct 19 10:48:37 1996
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Anyone trying to reach Richard Reider using

[e-mail] will not work.

use [e-mail]

Thanks.
Richard Reider



From [e-mail] Sat Oct 19 10:48:38 1996
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From: [e-mail] (BILL WATTS)
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Subject: Re: Strange Maritime rece
Date: Wed, 16 Oct 96 22:32:00 -0800
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-=> Quoting George L  Vetterle to All <=-


 GLV> In <[e-mail]> Mike Drucker <[e-mail]> writes:
 >
 >N. Schultheiss wrote:
 >>
 >> This is one for you tropospheric ducting experts:
 >>
 >> Early this moring I tuned my BC 220XLT into the local Continous
 GLV> Marine
 >> Broadcast (161.775 MHZ).  Instead of the Sarina Coast Guard Radio
 >> broadcast (about 50 miles away), I was treated to the C.M.B. from
 >> Cornwall C.G. radio on the St. Lawrence Seaway!
 >> I would guess it came from their remote facility in Kingston (?)
 GLV> about
 >> 400 miles away.
 >> Keep in mind this was strong enough to completely cover the local
 >> broadcast.
 >
 >I'm not a tropospheric ducting expert, but I've received xmns from
 >stations below 160 MHz from quite a distance late at night...as much
 as
 >100 miles on rare occasions (e.g., St. Pete FD at 150-something from
 >Orlando).  Could it be that the phenomenon is not tropospheric but
 >actual bounce off the ionosphere due to some rare condition?  (I know
 >the layers are usu. transparent to wavelengths much above 30 MHz
 GLV> *under
 >normal conditions*)
 >
 >I bet rec.radio.shortwave would have some guesses.....
 >
 >Ken

 GLV> Late one night several years ago, I carried on a conversation with 2
 GLV> sidebanders in Eastern Oregon.  I live in Central California, several
 GLV> hundred miles away, and at first thought that they were local.  I just
 GLV> figured that it was some kind of short skip or something.

When I lived on Cape Cod I used to hear PD's from Texas
every now and then. Sounded sort of "Wild West" with
shootouts all over the place. They sounded as close as
the local PD's but a lot more exciting.

... Bill Watts  ex-Cape Codder  [e-mail]


From [e-mail] Sat Oct 19 10:48:39 1996
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From: Steve Donnell <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner,alt.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Strange Maritime reception
Date: Tue, 15 Oct 1996 00:42:19 -0400
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Hi, what you are seeing here is a radio propagation condition known as "
"tropospheric ducting".  Simply speaking it occurs when sharp
differences in the temperature and moisture content at different levels
in the upper atmosphere permit VHF/UHF radio signals to be received,
sometimes hundreds of miles further than they can usually be. This can
often be noticed along the leading edge of a high pressure weather
cell. On a couple of occasions I have also heard Canadian CG broadcasts
on 161.775, also try checking 161.650, out of the New Brunswick area.
Listening to these freqs as well as the American NOAA
channels,particularly the lesser used freqs like 162.425, can be a great
way to know when a "band opening" is occuring and other distant stations
may be received. "Tropo ducting" conditions can also occure over large
bodies of water, here in NH, this will sometimes permit 2 Meter and 440
MHz Ham contacts with other Hams all the way from Virginia to Nova
Scotia , or to receive the Bronx Fire Dept on 154.190..
73s DE WA1YKL


From [e-mail] Sat Oct 19 10:48:41 1996
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From: "N. Schultheiss" <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner,alt.radio.scanner
Subject: Strange Maritime reception
Date: Mon, 14 Oct 1996 17:54:03 -0700
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This is one for you tropospheric ducting experts:

Early this moring I tuned my BC 220XLT into the local Continous Marine
Broadcast (161.775 MHZ).  Instead of the Sarina Coast Guard Radio
broadcast (about 50 miles away), I was treated to the C.M.B. from
Cornwall C.G. radio on the St. Lawrence Seaway!
I would guess it came from their remote facility in Kingston (?) about
400 miles away.
Keep in mind this was strong enough to completely cover the local
broadcast.

I check the other local C.M.B. frequency (161.650) and found it to be
loud and clear with local information..

Any in sights?
This has happened before, usually this time of year..

The temp was about 50 degrees F. and the barometer was on the rise at
about 1015 millibars.

  Neil
=========================================================
N. Schultheiss
[e-mail]
Detroit, Michigan, USA
http://www.acs.oakland.edu/~ncschult/boatnerd.html
_Great Lakes Vessel Passage Web Page_
Vessel passages updated every Monday and Thursday,
extensive Photo Gallery, Facts and Figures, News & Rumor,
Where to Buy, Calendar of Events,
COMPLETE listing of MARITIME frequencies in the Facts & Figures section.
=========================================================


From [e-mail] Sat Oct 19 10:48:42 1996
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From: Mike Drucker <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner,alt.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Strange Maritime reception
Date: Tue, 15 Oct 1996 12:09:35 -0700
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N. Schultheiss wrote:
>
> This is one for you tropospheric ducting experts:
>
> Early this moring I tuned my BC 220XLT into the local Continous Marine
> Broadcast (161.775 MHZ).  Instead of the Sarina Coast Guard Radio
> broadcast (about 50 miles away), I was treated to the C.M.B. from
> Cornwall C.G. radio on the St. Lawrence Seaway!
> I would guess it came from their remote facility in Kingston (?) about
> 400 miles away.
> Keep in mind this was strong enough to completely cover the local
> broadcast.

I'm not a tropospheric ducting expert, but I've received xmns from
stations below 160 MHz from quite a distance late at night...as much as
100 miles on rare occasions (e.g., St. Pete FD at 150-something from
Orlando).  Could it be that the phenomenon is not tropospheric but
actual bounce off the ionosphere due to some rare condition?  (I know
the layers are usu. transparent to wavelengths much above 30 MHz *under
normal conditions*)

I bet rec.radio.shortwave would have some guesses.....

Ken


From [e-mail] Sat Oct 19 10:48:43 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Orca)
Subject: Re: Strange Maritime reception
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I think the record for this phonomena is about 1200 miles.

Mike Drucker ([e-mail]) wrote:
: N. Schultheiss wrote:
: >
: > This is one for you tropospheric ducting experts:
: >
: > Early this moring I tuned my BC 220XLT into the local Continous Marine
: > Broadcast (161.775 MHZ).  Instead of the Sarina Coast Guard Radio
: > broadcast (about 50 miles away), I was treated to the C.M.B. from
: > Cornwall C.G. radio on the St. Lawrence Seaway!
: > I would guess it came from their remote facility in Kingston (?) about
: > 400 miles away.
: > Keep in mind this was strong enough to completely cover the local
: > broadcast.

: I'm not a tropospheric ducting expert, but I've received xmns from
: stations below 160 MHz from quite a distance late at night...as much as
: 100 miles on rare occasions (e.g., St. Pete FD at 150-something from
: Orlando).  Could it be that the phenomenon is not tropospheric but
: actual bounce off the ionosphere due to some rare condition?  (I know
: the layers are usu. transparent to wavelengths much above 30 MHz *under
: normal conditions*)

: I bet rec.radio.shortwave would have some guesses.....

: Ken

--
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From [e-mail] Sat Oct 19 10:48:45 1996
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From: [e-mail](George L. Vetterle)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner,alt.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Strange Maritime reception
Date: 16 Oct 1996 10:19:42 GMT
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In <[e-mail]> Mike Drucker <[e-mail]> writes:
>
>N. Schultheiss wrote:
>>
>> This is one for you tropospheric ducting experts:
>>
>> Early this moring I tuned my BC 220XLT into the local Continous
Marine
>> Broadcast (161.775 MHZ).  Instead of the Sarina Coast Guard Radio
>> broadcast (about 50 miles away), I was treated to the C.M.B. from
>> Cornwall C.G. radio on the St. Lawrence Seaway!
>> I would guess it came from their remote facility in Kingston (?)
about
>> 400 miles away.
>> Keep in mind this was strong enough to completely cover the local
>> broadcast.
>
>I'm not a tropospheric ducting expert, but I've received xmns from
>stations below 160 MHz from quite a distance late at night...as much
as
>100 miles on rare occasions (e.g., St. Pete FD at 150-something from
>Orlando).  Could it be that the phenomenon is not tropospheric but
>actual bounce off the ionosphere due to some rare condition?  (I know
>the layers are usu. transparent to wavelengths much above 30 MHz
*under
>normal conditions*)
>
>I bet rec.radio.shortwave would have some guesses.....
>
>Ken

Late one night several years ago, I carried on a conversation with 2
sidebanders in Eastern Oregon.  I live in Central California, several
hundred miles away, and at first thought that they were local.  I just
figured that it was some kind of short skip or something.
--
--
George Vetterle
[e-mail]

"I don't mind if you don't like my manners.  I don't like them myself.
They're pretty bad.  I grieve over them on long winter evenings."-Phillip
Marlowe, THE BIG SLEEP (WB, 1946)



From [e-mail] Sat Oct 19 10:48:46 1996
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From: "Ze Mota" <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: sunnyline color handheld scanner
Date: 13 Oct 1996 14:00:44 GMT
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X-Newsreader: Microsoft Internet News 4.70.1155

Does anyone know where I can find drivers for this scanner to work on
Windows95?
--
[e-mail]


From [e-mail] Sat Oct 19 10:48:47 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Dr Pepper)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: sunnyline color handheld scanner
Date: Sun, 13 Oct 1996 18:06:14 GMT
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On 13 Oct 1996 14:00:44 GMT, "Ze Mota" <[e-mail]>
wrote:

>Does anyone know where I can find drivers for this scanner to work on
>Windows95?

I think you've got the wrong "scanner" News Group.  This is RADIO
scanners, not OPTICAL scanners  :-}
>--
>[e-mail]

Dr Pepper
10 - 2 - 4
Good Anytime


From [e-mail] Sat Oct 19 10:48:48 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Rich Carlson)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Syntor CH programming Problem
Date: Fri, 04 Oct 1996 20:32:16 -0500
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Sorry if this is a bit out of context for this group, but I don't know
where else to look:

In programming a fleet of Motorola Syntor X9000's (with the Alpha-Numeric
control heads) I have no problem cloning the radio itself (with RDPROG) but
the "CHPROG" (Control Head Programmer) will not allow one to read in a file
or clone control heads.  It gets real tedious to type in 32 channel labels
while sitting at the trunk of a squad car, and then doing it for 15
different cars... This also makes for inconsistent labels and mistakes.

Is there a trick to this?  Has anyone else had this problem?

Thanks in advance for any help!

--
Rich Carlson, N9JIG ([e-mail])

ScannerMaster Illinois Communications Guide [phone]

CARMA (Chicago Area Radio Monitoring Association) BBS [phone]
PO Box 2681, Glenview IL 60025    SASE for sample newsletter.


From [e-mail] Sat Oct 19 10:48:49 1996
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From: [e-mail] (H.P. de Nijs)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner,nl.markt
Subject: Te koop aangeboden: FRG-9600
Date: Sat, 19 Oct 1996 07:04:07 GMT
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Wegens be-eindiging hobby te koop:

FRG-9600 van Yaesu
receiver all band, all mode VHF/UHF
60 - 905 MHz

Goede staat. Incl. manual en binnen-antenne.

Prijs HFl. 650,-



E-mail naar

[e-mail]





H.P. de Nijs





From [e-mail] Sat Oct 19 10:48:49 1996
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From: Larry Wilson
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Subject: Re: The Idiot Mackey's Verbosity
Date: 14 Oct 1996 22:14:50 -0400
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The Idiot Mackey is a riot isn't he? He says he has
a "Master of Communications Technology."  though he is
afraid to say from where. Excuses but no proof.

The Idiot Mackey says "It is a free newsgroup & internet access system which I
 maintain & access."
though he makes excuses he can't say what system. Another lie?

The Idiot Mackey says his addrss is "PO Box 1586, Beaverton, Oregon  97075-158
6"
but that is a PO Box for a rinky dink repeater group. Or does the Idiot Mackey
live at the post office? Rinky dink it must be, he is their PR man.

IMackey claim to fame is "Look at the input I did on COAX for example." Though
 it has
been disputed by many and he has been proven to be merely carrying on an old h
ams tale.

He never has told truth regarding a power supply and UHF Micor he smoked. He i
gnored my
comments when I refuted his lies with truth.

IMackey you a fraud and a Fool.

That right IMackey, no Internet E-mail. Can't bomb me. Can't do squat. Feel at
 home?

Larry R. Wilson  <<<<<<--- See Idiot Mackey, full name. No call. No want one.
IMackey Counter



From [e-mail] Sat Oct 19 10:48:51 1996
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From: [e-mail]
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: The person who helped with Cubic info?????????????
Date: Fri, 11 Oct 1996 10:19:12 -0500
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Last week (10/1 - 10/4) I put a plea for help for info on Cubic
Electronics in Ocean Side, Ca. Some very nice gentleman gave me the info
I needed. I have since had a complete system crash and lost ALL my
messages...in fact I lost 2 hard drives with everything on them. The
only thing I remember about the message was that his address started
with something like "HONT"..his name was Loenk (?), The important thing
was, he gave me the name of a guy that had worked for Cubic. He said the
guy still repaired Cubic radios for a fair price. H ealso said the guy
had a fax on during the day but in the evening it was off line. He gave
me the telephone number and all the info I needed. I can't remember
which newsgroup it was in. If he will PLEASE contact me again I would
appreciate it very much. I need the same info again.

I am posting this to all the ham and radio newsgroups to find this good
samaritan again. I sent him a thank you message, but of course that is
also gone now so I can't get the address from there.

Tommy Statham
N5HTQ


From [e-mail] Sat Oct 19 10:48:51 1996
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From: Rob Kling <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
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Date: Sun, 13 Oct 1996 14:42:20 -0400
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I have recently purchased the PRO 2035 ($300, new, +1 yr warranty),  which I t
hink was a fair deal.
Then, I see in the forum that there is a lot of excitement regarding the much
older 2006. Are the radios that much different,
I thought they were both manufactured by GRE . I know the 2035 has a faster sc
an rate, more channels and is NOT
cell modifiable, other than that what is the difference?

Rob Kling
N8YBV



From [e-mail] Sat Oct 19 10:48:52 1996
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From: Rob Kling <[e-mail]>
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Subject: The PRO2035 vs. The PRO2006: What's the difference?
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I have recently purchased the PRO 2035 ($300, new, +1 yr warranty),  which I t
hink was a fair deal.
Then, I see in the forum that there is a lot of excitement regarding the much
older 2006. Are the radios that much different,
I thought they were both manufactured by GRE . I know the 2035 has a faster sc
an rate, more channels and is NOT
cell modifiable, other than that what is the difference?

Rob Kling
N8YBV


From [e-mail] Sat Oct 19 10:48:53 1996
From: [e-mail] (Chris Sussmann N1UOC)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Thunderbirds freq???
Date: Fri, 18 Oct 1996 06:05:08 GMT
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Hello All...

Having an Air Show this weekend in my home town...Thunderbirds are
going to show up...anyone out there have the plane-to-plane freqs??

I do not subcribe to the list so please reply to my email...

[e-mail]

TIA,

Chris
Enid Oklahoma



From [e-mail] Sat Oct 19 10:48:54 1996
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From: [e-mail] (kevin kibbe)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Toronto
Date: Sun, 13 Oct 1996 00:15:33 GMT
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[e-mail] wrote:

>Please advise if you are aware of a publication of Toronto Frequencies

If you must have a book walk, don't run, to your nearest Radio Shack
Store and get the latest "Haruteq Scanner book the Ontario Edition"
this is a great book, just about eveything you could ever want, and it
comes out evey year (I think...).

If you want a list that is just about as good try some of the web
pages with lots of info, just do a web search for "Ontario scanner
frequencies", you will find lots. Or if your computer is up to it you
can down load the mother of all Canadian frequency lists from:

www.ic.gc.ca/ic-data/telecom/telecom-e.html

Here you will find about 80 MB of just about all (not the cops or
mil.) freqs. It gives the Lat. and Long of the antenna, the height of
the ant. power and much more. It tells you who and what freq. Can't
ask for more. I am sure it is the basis of the Haruteq book. Anyway
it's very large and broken into about ~12 blocks of 1 meg each
(zipped) the site is a good one (fast) so if your computer can handle
large files (each 1 meg block unzips to about 5 meg then go for it and
do a text search or use a data base program to find your town. (the
list is in order of frequency). I have downloaded it all and it's well
worth it.

Have fun, let me know how you make out.

                                                Kevin




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From: "Bob Lyle" <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Toronto
Date: 12 Oct 1996 13:20:22 GMT
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Absolutely. The most comprehensive listing is probably the Haruteq book
published by Bart Veerman in Stoney Creek. It's avilable at Radio Shack,
Atlantic Ham Radio and some larger bookstores in the area. Retail cost is
about $25.

Regards!

½Bob╗

[e-mail]

[e-mail] wrote in article <53muar$[e-mail]>...
> Please advise if you are aware of a publication of Toronto Frequencies
>


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Save you money. Try    http://www.interlog.com/~ronkatz


[e-mail] wrote:

>Please advise if you are aware of a publication of Toronto Frequencies

Ron Katz
News Cameraman
Toronto Ontario
http://www.interlog.com/~ronkatz/
Your source of information for
Scanning the Emergency Services and More.


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From: "Gary Misbach" <[e-mail]>
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Have ar8000 w/acc. and computer interface.
Will trade for oki900/att or two,or acc.
thanks
Gary
[e-mail]


From [e-mail] Sat Oct 19 10:48:58 1996
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From: "R.S. Glines" <[e-mail]>
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Subject: TRADE: Hand Held Scanner For Base Scanner
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Trade: Realistic Pro-46 100ch hand held scanner for a 100ch base
scanner.
If your interested, send e-mail to: [e-mail]

Regards R.S. Glines


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Sorry for the duplicate messages.

Ed


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Trade: Realistic Pro-46 100ch hand held scanner, for Pro-2021
or equivalent.

R.S. Glines * [e-mail]


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Trade: Realistic Pro-46 100ch hand held scanner, for a 100ch or better
base scanner. The Pro-46, has new ni-cads, and new wall charger.
Pro-46 coverage: 29-54, 108-136.975, 137-174, 406-512, 806-956Mhz.

Interested? Send E-mail to: [e-mail]


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Trade: Realistic Pro-46 100ch hand held scanner for a 100ch or better
base scanner. The Pro-46 comes with, manual (online printout), new
ni-cads, and a new wall charger. Pro-46 coverage: 29-54, 108-136.975,
137-174, 406-512, 806-956mHz. I need a base style scanner for easier
desktop operation.

Ragards, R.S. Glines


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Trade: Realistic Pro-46 100ch hand held scanner, for a 100ch or better
base scanner. The Pro-46 has new ni-cads, but no charger or manual.
Pro-46 coverage: 29-54, 108-136.975, 137-174, 406-512, 806-912MHZ.

Best Regards, R.S. Glines * [e-mail]


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Would like to trade for BC9000XLT.

E-mail if interested.

Ed


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Would like to trade for BC9000XLT.

E-mail if interested.

Ed


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Has anyone ever heard of a company called "Turtle Tennas"? I have someone
who is trying to get in touch with them but he has no idea if they're still
in business. Apparently they were distributed in Canada by a company called
"Databank Technical" at one time.

Thanks!

½Bob╗

[e-mail]


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I'm thinking of trying the TV antenna for a scanner, but where is the best
place to put the 300/75ohm transformer.  Should I put it at the antenna and
run 50ohm coax to the scanner or should I put the transformer at the scanner
and run 300 ohm twin lead to the TV antenna?

Tnx,
George



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I think a T.V. ant works great. Its also a good stealth ant for people
who live in areas with strict CC&R's. Try using it with a rotor to zero
in on those weak signals.

Barry


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>>George F. wrote ...........
>> First, I have a Discone in my attic and am really happy with the way =
it=20
>> works.  But I've heard much about using TV antennas for scanners.  =
One=20
>> problem that I have is I thought most TV antennas are designed for =
either=20
>> 300ohms or 75ohms?  If 300 is the correct answer, where can I get a =
balum to=20
>> match to my 50 ohm scanner?  If 75ohms is the correct answer, isn't =
that=20
>> still too much of a mismatch to take advantage of any extra gain a TV =
antenna=20
>> might have over a Discone with had a 50ohm impedance?

>No. If you were to watch the resistance/impedance of your discone as =
you tune up a range of
>frequencies you would see it rise and fall like a roller coaster. The =
resistance will go from near zero to
>over 500.  --------deleted text------------

I really blew it. I was speaking about multi-band scanner antennas =
above, not discones. The results I have had=20
with my RS discone shows it varies from around 30 to 100 ohms as you =
tune its range. Sorry for the confusion.


Glenn





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From: [e-mail] (Dr Pepper)
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On 14 Oct 1996 03:39:15 GMT, [e-mail] (George F.) wrote:

>First, I have a Discone in my attic and am really happy with the way it
>works.  But I've heard much about using TV antennas for scanners.  One
>problem that I have is I thought most TV antennas are designed for either
>300ohms or 75ohms?  If 300 is the correct answer, where can I get a balum to
>match to my 50 ohm scanner?  If 75ohms is the correct answer, isn't that
>still too much of a mismatch to take advantage of any extra gain a TV antenna

>might have over a Discone with had a 50ohm impedance?
>
>Thanks,
>George
>

If the tenna is a 300 ohm, then get a Radio Shack Balun, for a few
cents. This will take it to 75 ohms. And don't forget to turn the
TV antenna sideways for vertical polarization.  :-}
Dr Pepper
10 - 2 - 4
Good Anytime


From [e-mail] Sat Oct 19 10:49:08 1996
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From: [e-mail] (TristTom)
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Subject: UBC 300xlt for $400.?  worth it?
Date: 14 Oct 1996 12:27:01 -0400
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I have a chance to purchase the Uniden UBC 3000xlt for $400. US.  is it
worth it?  $400. seems like a lot of money!



________________________________________________________
Mr. Tristan Li Tom

[e-mail]          http://users.aol.com/tristtom/

213.845.0626

"When I tried to tell my story, they cut me off, to take
a break. I sat silent 5 commercials-I had nothing left
to say." - R.E.M.
________________________________________________________





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From: [e-mail] (P.J. Heller)
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Seen it advertised from a dealer for about $339 new.


In article <53tpkl$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (TristTom)
wrote:

> I have a chance to purchase the Uniden UBC 3000xlt for $400. US.  is it
> worth it?  $400. seems like a lot of money!
>
>
>
> ________________________________________________________
> Mr. Tristan Li Tom
>
> [e-mail]          http://users.aol.com/tristtom/
>
> 213.845.0626
>
> "When I tried to tell my story, they cut me off, to take
> a break. I sat silent 5 commercials-I had nothing left
> to say." - R.E.M.
> ________________________________________________________


From [e-mail] Sat Oct 19 10:49:10 1996
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From: Ron Cain <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: UBC 300xlt for $400.?  worth it?
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TristTom wrote:
>
> I have a chance to purchase the Uniden UBC 3000xlt for $400. US.  is it
> worth it?  $400. seems like a lot of money!
>
> ________________________________________________________
> Mr. Tristan Li Tom
>

Sounds like a good deal to me. Of course this version WILL pick up
cellular bands unlike the U.S. version. There are some other differences
between the two that escape me for the moment.

Are you buying from Jonathan Clough? He's very knowledgeable and can
spell out all the differences between the two versions. I have the U.S.
BC3000xlt and am very satisfied with it.

Of course some people still listen to cellular on the U.S. models on the
image frequencies of 1005-1030 Mhz. I'm told the reception is great if
you're within 1/2 mile of a cellular tower. Further, I'm told that a
discone antenna hooked up by coax to the rubber duck connector will
really extend your listening range.

Be sure and get the undocumented keypad tricks for your particular
model as they can really enhance operation.
Good luck, Ron Cain


From [e-mail] Sat Oct 19 10:49:11 1996
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From: Rich Wells <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: UBC 300xlt for $400.?  worth it?
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While I think the 3000 is well worth a $400 price tag for the features
and receiver
performance you get, you can get one mail order in the low $300s(I
bought mine for
$334). The $400 price is the typical department store-style mark-up
price for the
"manufacturer's suggested retail price". Phooey! Don't be had! Pick up a
copy of
Monitoring Times or Popular Communications and shop around!

Strong signals,
Rich Wells
N2MCA
Owner : Pro-34/43/60/26/2006/2042 BC-3000/9000 AR-2700/8000 MVT-7100 R-1
Former Owner : Pro-51 BCT-7 BC-8500
North Carolina editor
The Scanner Club
http://www.enter.net/~jheller/scanclub.html

TristTom wrote:
>
> I have a chance to purchase the Uniden UBC 3000xlt for $400. US.  is it
> worth it?  $400. seems like a lot of money!


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From: [e-mail] (Michael Alexander)
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In article <53tpkl$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (TristTom)
wrote:

> I have a chance to purchase the Uniden UBC 3000xlt for $400. US.  is it
> worth it?  $400. seems like a lot of money!
>
>
That's an impossible question to answer! "Worth" is dependent on what you
plan to do with it.

--
Michael Alexander
[e-mail]


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From: [e-mail] (Hay145)
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I don't think so !

You are not reading the question :-( BC3000XLT yes,  but the guy is asking
about the UBC3000XLT which is the full coverage version and not available
from dealers here.


> Seen it advertised from a dealer for about $339 new.
>
>
>In article <53tpkl$[e-mail]>, [e-mail]
>(TristTom)
>wrote:
>
>> I have a chance to purchase the Uniden UBC 3000xlt for $400. US.  is it
>> worth it?  $400. seems like a lot of money!
>>

Harry.



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On Thu, 10 Oct 1996, kEN Colburn wrote:

> Anyone heard any UFO transmissions? No wait, they are spotted all over,
> it stands to reason they use some type of radio to comm w/ the mother
> ship or other scouts. Someone must have heard something.

How would you know? Doubt they'd speak english.


Ken Koller

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From [e-mail] Sat Oct 19 10:49:15 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Filipe M.P. Vieira)
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On Thu, 10 Oct 1996 11:02:25 GMT, [e-mail] (kEN Colburn)
wrote:

>Anyone heard any UFO transmissions? No wait, they are spotted all over,
>it stands to reason they use some type of radio to comm w/ the mother
>ship or other scouts. Someone must have heard something.
>
>--
>If you'd like to sponsor me (as little as $5) in this year's LOVE RIDE
>for Muscular Dystrophy, emale me.
>  [e-mail]
>http://www.mainelink.net/~writer/poster/Poster.html
>
>

Try SETI instalations via www and ask them!
They have nice scanner's and very very SMALL antenas....

_____________________________________________________________________
Filipe M.P. Vieira                               [e-mail]


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For more info on UFO's
Check out the MUFON   UFO Net   it was on Sat 8 AM EST 7237.0 LSB !
also the UFO net on TU/SAT 8:00 to 11:00 am  3977.5 (Apx)
They both used to be active a year or so ago!

Robert Sheaffer <[e-mail]> wrote in article
<53lsp8$[e-mail]>...
> In article <[e-mail]>,
> kEN Colburn <[e-mail]> wrote:
> >Anyone heard any UFO transmissions? No wait, they are spotted all over,
> >it stands to reason they use some type of radio to comm w/ the mother
> >ship or other scouts. Someone must have heard something.
>
> Yes, but the conversations are in Reticulan, a language nobody can
> understand.
>
> Worse yet, the NSA and CIA have conspired to block all UFO transmission
> frequencies from your scanners!
>
> --
>
>
> Robert Sheaffer - [e-mail] - Skeptical to the Max!
>
>


From [e-mail] Sat Oct 19 10:49:17 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Richard Evans)
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[e-mail] wrote:
: In a previous article, [e-mail] (kEN Colburn) wrote:
: ->Anyone heard any UFO transmissions? No wait, they are spotted all over,
: ->it stands to reason they use some type of radio to comm w/ the mother
: ->ship or other scouts. Someone must have heard something.
: ->
: ->--
: -It's been a lot more difficult to pick up the "aliens" since they switched
: from VHF to an 8000 e.t.-hz trunked system. Besides, the language they spoke
: made speech inversion sound like Shakespear.
:     However, it still would'nt hurt to check in with the MARS system every
: now and then. You never know.

What if they use some type of siglan other than Radio waves. Perhaps
not even Electormagnetic waves, or perhaps not even waves.

The fact that we wouldn't know anything about such a signal does not
prove that it doesn't exist, and does not prove that UFOs don't use
it.

Richard.


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From: [e-mail] (Bert)
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>>: In a previous article, [e-mail] (kEN Colburn) wrote:

>>: ->Anyone heard any UFO transmissions? No wait, they are spotted all over,

Yeah!  I had one of'em in and out of a 62 Buick once.

Bert Burland aka N5TOA / From The Texas Panhandle
EMail-([e-mail]) Fido-NetMail-(Sysop@1:3825/24)



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[e-mail] (Richard Evans) writes:

>[e-mail] wrote:
>: In a previous article, [e-mail] (kEN Colburn) wrote:
>: ->Anyone heard any UFO transmissions? No wait, they are spotted all over,
>: ->it stands to reason they use some type of radio to comm w/ the mother
>: ->ship or other scouts. Someone must have heard something.
>: ->
>: ->--
>: -It's been a lot more difficult to pick up the "aliens" since they switched
>: from VHF to an 8000 e.t.-hz trunked system. Besides, the language they spok
e
>: made speech inversion sound like Shakespear.
>:     However, it still would'nt hurt to check in with the MARS system every
>: now and then. You never know.

>What if they use some type of siglan other than Radio waves. Perhaps
>not even Electormagnetic waves, or perhaps not even waves.

>The fact that we wouldn't know anything about such a signal does not
>prove that it doesn't exist, and does not prove that UFOs don't use
>it.

>Richard.

You're all missing an important fact:

The aliens don't base their timekeeping on hours/minutes/seconds.
kHz/mHz/gHz as we use them are based on cycles per seconds.

Since the aliens don't count in seconds, they transmit on frequencies
we have no way ever to recieve. <grin>

Steve


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Richard Evans ([e-mail]) wrote:
: What if they use some type of siglan other than Radio waves. Perhaps
: not even Electormagnetic waves, or perhaps not even waves.

I tuned the alien signals into my computer fax program and this is what it
produced:

  \|/  ____  \|/
   @~ / oO \ ~@
   /_( \__/ )_\
      \_U__/

--
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *

        Uncle [e-mail]



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[e-mail] (Bert) wrote:

>>>: In a previous article, [e-mail] (kEN Colburn) wrote:

>>>: ->Anyone heard any UFO transmissions? No wait, they are spotted all over,


>Yeah!  I had one of'em in and out of a 62 Buick once.

>Bert Burland aka N5TOA / From The Texas Panhandle
>EMail-([e-mail]) Fido-NetMail-(Sysop@1:3825/24)

That was a Dynaflow transmission Bert. I can see why you would think
that though.



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On 13 Oct 1996, W. Charles Alexander wrote:
> > Yes, but the conversations are in Reticulan, a language nobody can
> > understand.
> >
> > Worse yet, the NSA and CIA have conspired to block all UFO transmission
> > frequencies from your scanners!

Ahh....so those Black Helicopters are actually EH-60Qs huh, jamming the
transmissions from UFOs.


Ken Koller
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From [e-mail] Sat Oct 19 10:49:22 1996
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From: "Bruce A. Langos" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Uniden BC 855 For Sale
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Desktop model modified to 100 channel and cell block removed.  In perfect
condition with documentation.

$125.00 shipped anywhere in the US

bruce


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Hi,I'm looking at this phone
and am wondering if it is digital
spread spectrum, and immune
to scanner interception??

Thanxx



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>>I believe that FRS & GMRS use some of the same frequencies, it blows
>>that theory.

The FRS frequencies are unique to the FRS.


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>>>I believe that FRS & GMRS use some of the same frequencies, it blows
>>>that theory.

>The FRS frequencies are unique to the FRS.

NOT TRUE - there are seven common frequencies:
462.5625, 462.5875, ...462.7125.

The UNIQUE freqs for the FRS are:
467.5625, 467.5875,...467.7125

Fred K,
A.R.S. N9SLR
GMRS KAE5707


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Frederick Kelcz ([e-mail]) wrote:


: >>>I believe that FRS & GMRS use some of the same frequencies, it blows
: >>>that theory.

: >The FRS frequencies are unique to the FRS.

: NOT TRUE - there are seven common frequencies:
: 462.5625, 462.5875, ...462.7125.

   Which is why FRS is such a bad idea (as implemented).

     Bob   KB0CY - KAF1068



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From: [e-mail] (ShawnWalsh)
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Hey all, thought you might be interested:  Wal-Mart has a nice AC-DC
universal adapter that has 3,4.5,6,7.5,9,and 12 volt settings at 800ma
max.  It has every plug known to man on it except the 9v emulator end and
a polarity switch.  It only costs about $15!  I bought it for my BC 200XLT
and it works great!  I am able to listen to the scanner while charging the
battery packs.  I think it is packaged under the Popular Mechanics name,
but the actual model number is a Gemini AS498.  Just thought I'd let you
know.

Shawn


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Michael Alexander wrote:
>
> In article <53lqi9$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (ShawnWals
h)
> wrote:
> > Hey all, thought you might be interested:  Wal-Mart has a nice AC-DC
> > universal adapter that has 3,4.5,6,7.5,9,and 12 volt settings at 800ma
> > max.  It has every plug known to man on it except the 9v emulator end and
> > a polarity switch.  It only costs about $15!  I bought it for my BC 200XLT
> > and it works great!  I am able to listen to the scanner while charging the
> > battery packs.  I think it is packaged under the Popular Mechanics name,
> > but the actual model number is a Gemini AS498.  Just thought I'd let you
> > know.
> >
> > Shawn
>
> I bought a universal adapter with a variety if tips for the UBC3000 at Rat S
hack
> and I paid about $12 for it.
I looked at the one you mentioned, If I remember correctly, it was only
a 400ma or 500 ma supply, I might be wrong.  Anywho, I can charge 2
battery packs and still listen to the scanner and the supply doesn't
even get warm.  Well, just some info.
Shawn


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Slightly off-topic, but just letting everyone know that I have just
updated my web page with a number of new photographs. Please stop by and
take a look. Fell free to send your comments, questions and critiques.
The URL is listed below and it is caps sensitive.


Ken Koller

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What kinda of device can pick up the Coast Guards HF Freqs....Is it a
ShortWave that can do it?


From [e-mail] Sat Oct 19 10:49:29 1996
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I am trying to find an antenna mount that will allow me
to attach the pole to the side of my house.   The problem
is that the roof overhangs the side of the house by 27 inches.

I have found several that hold the pole 6, 12, or 18 inches
out from the wall, but none that come anywhere close to 27.
If I could find one for 24 inches, I could probably make
some 3" spacers, but anything more than that is asking for
trouble.   Does anyone make a wall mount that can clear a
27" (or even 24") roof overhang?

--  Alan E. Frisbie               [e-mail]
--  Flying Disk Systems, Inc.


From [e-mail] Sat Oct 19 10:49:30 1996
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From: KIRK MCDONALD <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: Wall-mount antenna bracket
Date: Wed, 16 Oct 1996 22:40:11 -0400
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To: Alan Frisbie <[e-mail]>

Alan Frisbie wrote:
>
> I am trying to find an antenna mount that will allow me
> to attach the pole to the side of my house.   The problem
> is that the roof overhangs the side of the house by 27 inches.
>
> I have found several that hold the pole 6, 12, or 18 inches
> out from the wall, but none that come anywhere close to 27.
> If I could find one for 24 inches, I could probably make
> some 3" spacers, but anything more than that is asking for
> trouble.   Does anyone make a wall mount that can clear a
> 27" (or even 24") roof overhang?
>
> --  Alan E. Frisbie               [e-mail]
> --  Flying Disk Systems, Inc.

I have seen similar situations where the  cure was to put a couple of
2x4s or metal braces across the edge of the overhang and attach the
standard antenna mounts to them. It should work as long as it's sturdy
enough.Good Luck.
Kirk McDonald
Fairfield County Fire Monitoring


From [e-mail] Sat Oct 19 10:49:31 1996
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From: "R.S. Glines" <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: WANT: Pro-46 Manual...
Date: Thu, 17 Oct 1996 15:40:14 -0700
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I need a Realistic Pro-46 hand held scanner manual or photo copy.
I'll pay for copy expense and postage if necessary.

Regards, R.S. Glines


From [e-mail] Sat Oct 19 10:49:32 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Barry Adair)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: WANT: Pro-46 Manual...
Date: Fri, 18 Oct 1996 06:10:38 GMT
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"R.S. Glines" <[e-mail]> wrote:

>I need a Realistic Pro-46 hand held scanner manual or photo copy.
>I'll pay for copy expense and postage if necessary.

>Regards, R.S. Glines
You can call Radio Shack National Parts, in Fort Worth Tx and order
it, The last one I got was $5.49, but since I live about 5 miles from
there I did not have to pay shipping and handling.




From [e-mail] Sat Oct 19 10:49:33 1996
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From: [e-mail]
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Subject: Re: WANT: Pro-46 Manual...
Date: Fri, 18 Oct 1996 17:10:56 GMT
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"R.S. Glines" <[e-mail]> wrote:

>I need a Realistic Pro-46 hand held scanner manual or photo copy.
>I'll pay for copy expense and postage if necessary.

>Regards, R.S. Glines

before you pay for anything, go to this web site.  hope you find what
you're looking for.

        support.tandy.com/html8/8558.html



From [e-mail] Sat Oct 19 10:49:34 1996
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From: mondad <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: WANTED FTG-9600 Receiver Manual (Yaesu)
Date: Tue, 15 Oct 1996 23:30:41 -0400
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Please email me at [e-mail] to see if i can get a copy of your
manual. Thanks


From [e-mail] Sat Oct 19 10:49:34 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Ken Landen)
Subject: Wanted Small Handheld 800 Mhz scanner with 100-200 in good
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condition, will pay up to $125
 Reply-To: [e-mail]
References:
Organization:

Im looking for a small  Uniden or realistic Scanner with 800 MHZ and Air
with 100-200 channels, can spend up to $125
please e-mail or call 310-967-4066 if you have one you would like to
sell.
P.S. I have misc. none electronic items to trade like collectible movie
posters.
Thanks
--






From [e-mail] Sat Oct 19 10:49:35 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Carl Hodder)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Wanted: BC-8500XLT Service manual or Schematic.
Date: 16 Oct 1996 05:41:15 GMT
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I am looking for a Bearcat BC-8500 Service manual or Schematic.
Would like to see if it's possible to unblock the 800 MHz band
(if I can't find one). Not interested in the virtual mod
that displays the blocked out part of the band in the 300 MHz
area.

Looking for Cellular mods (diode type, not virtual downconversion).
I have checked several mod sites on the internet with know luck.
It should have a diode mod because it was made before 1994 and all
other Bearcat 800 MHz scanners made before 1994 have diode/wire cut
mods including 200, 205, 600, 700, 760, 855, 890, and 2500.
BTW- I have seen these mods posted earlier but I don't have them myself.

Looking for Keypad Tricks like BC-3000 or BC-9000 radios have.

Would like any technical info on this radio. Any Bearcat hardware
hackers out there?



From [e-mail] Sat Oct 19 10:49:36 1996
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From: "Dan & Michele" <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Wanted: BC350A mods (if any)
Date: 19 Oct 1996 02:45:36 GMT
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i am looking for any simple mods to perform on my bc350a, rx'd as a
present. tnx



From [e-mail] Sat Oct 19 10:49:37 1996
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From: Charles Simmont <"Pirate@Garden"@hvs.com>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: WANTED: CRYSTAL SCANNER
Date: Mon, 14 Oct 1996 22:13:05 -0700
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If you have one of these and would like to part with it, e-mail me at
"[e-mail]", thanks....


From [e-mail] Sat Oct 19 10:49:38 1996
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In <53v7hk$[e-mail]> Charles Simmont
<"Pirate@Garden"@hvs.com> writes:
>
>If you have one of these and would like to part with it, e-mail me at
>"[e-mail]", thanks....


    I have a REgency 8 channel crystal scanner

    your address above my server says don't exist.

   getting a lot of these "they don't exist" addreses
   lately....

      does the IDIOT GUY give classes and people signing
      on to learn how to "not be who you claim to be"....?

      e-me at : my address

    bill conduit


From [e-mail] Sat Oct 19 10:49:39 1996
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From: "Bruce Langos" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Wanted: WS-1000 Scanner
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Please e-mail if you have one to sell reasonably priced.




From [e-mail] Sat Oct 19 10:49:40 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Clay Irving)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Washington DC Freq. List Wanted
Date: 12 Oct 1996 08:02:15 -0400
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In <[e-mail]> "Paul
D. Ashcraft" <[e-mail]> writes:

>I will be in DC for christmas and need a listing of frequencys for the
>immediate area including the Crystal City area.

Try: http://www.panix.com/~clay/scanning/frequencies/states/dc/

--
Clay Irving N2VKG
[e-mail]
http://www.panix.com/~clay/


From [e-mail] Sat Oct 19 10:49:40 1996
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"Paul D. Ashcraft" <[e-mail]> wrote:


>I will be in DC for christmas and need a listing of frequencys for the
>immediate area including the Crystal City area.

>Your help is much apreciated.

 For Crystal City monitor Arlington County's 800mhz trunk:

  856-860.4375, 856-860.7625, 856-860.9375

 Here you will find every county agency but when most government goes
to sleep after 5pm then you will get the Police, Fire, and Sheriff....

Ken



From [e-mail] Sat Oct 19 10:49:41 1996
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From: [e-mail]
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Subject: Western Pa Homepage Updated
Date: 13 Oct 96 10:26:57 EDT
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My Western Pennsylvania Scanning Homepage has been updated.  I've included
some new links etc.  In the next few weeks I hope to be adding to the
Station Id section.  Additions, Corrections, Deletions are always welcome.
Thanks Dan KE3UC

http://www.pitt.edu/~ruhe


From [e-mail] Sat Oct 19 10:49:42 1996
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From: Don Hayes <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: What do you people use your frequency counters for? Are they
Date: Sun, 13 Oct 96 07:06:44 -0500
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The freq counter is used as a stand alone device for picking up freq info
where you see or suspect taht communications are happening. In many situations
you can't ask to people taht are using the radios for their freqs, so you
need a way to get those freqs. You can also be close to a sight such as a
TV station, rally, march and find out the freqs the quickest way.
. rather than
using the scanner's search mode.


From [e-mail] Sat Oct 19 10:49:43 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Richard Evans)
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Date: 14 Oct 1996 15:37:53 GMT
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Don Hayes ([e-mail]) wrote:
: The freq counter is used as a stand alone device for picking up freq info
: where you see or suspect taht communications are happening. In many situatio
ns
: you can't ask to people taht are using the radios for their freqs, so you
: need a way to get those freqs. You can also be close to a sight such as a
: TV station, rally, march and find out the freqs the quickest way.
: . rather than
: using the scanner's search mode.
BUT what if more than one channel is being transmitted. Receiving two
or more signals at once will confuse most frequency counters, and you
will never get a stable reading.

Richard.


From [e-mail] Sat Oct 19 10:49:44 1996
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From: [e-mail]
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: What do you people use your frequency counters for? Are they worth buying??
Date: Sat, 12 Oct 1996 06:18:07 GMT
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Are they used for diognostic reasons, or are they an add-on toy/gizmo?

Does anyone have an opinion on the RS freq. counter (22-305) --$149.99
in Canada.

thanks


From [e-mail] Sat Oct 19 10:49:45 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Tomcat305)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: What do you people use your frequency counters for? Are they worth buying??
Date: 12 Oct 1996 04:46:44 -0400
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Well, a freqs. counter is a little toy that for Example I take mine to the
Airshows and get freqs. when a transmition is made from a radio, the freq.
counter picks it up, only if your within serveral hundred feet of the
transmition


From [e-mail] Sat Oct 19 10:49:46 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Jorge Saavedra)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: What do you people use your frequency counters for? Are they worth buying??
Date: 12 Oct 1996 11:33:15 GMT
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 ([e-mail]) writes:
> Are they used for diognostic reasons, or are they an add-on toy/gizmo?
>
> Does anyone have an opinion on the RS freq. counter (22-305) --$149.99
> in Canada.

Save your money.  The 22-305 gives a reliable count only when directly
connected to a signal source.  Otherwise, it functions as a random number
generator.  It seems to have poor shielding from its own internal signals.
Even when the input is shorted, the random counts continue.  In short:
it's a piece of junk!



--
If a free society cannot help the many who are poor,       | Jorge Saavedra
it cannot save the few who are rich. -- John F. Kennedy    | Nepean, Ont.


From [e-mail] Sat Oct 19 10:49:47 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Patrick vd Steeg)
Subject: What signals are used by SCOUT?
Summary: what signals are used by scout
Sender: [e-mail] (USENET News System)
Message-ID: <steeg.845619800@vipera>
Date: Fri, 18 Oct 1996 06:23:20 GMT
Organization: Philips Research Laboratories Eindhoven, Netherlands
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Lines: 25


Hi All,

I have a very simple question. What signals are used by the SCOUT??
Are both TX and RX signals of the RS232 present?
I want to know if the connector used to connect an AR8000 and
a SCOUT can also be used to connect the AR8000 (via an interface) to
a PC. The normal connector used in the AR8000 for this is VERY impractical
and weak (IMHO).

Thanks in advance,

Patrick van de Steeg

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From [e-mail] Sat Oct 19 10:49:48 1996
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From: Rob Kling <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: What's the diffence beteen the PRO2035 and the PRO2006?
Date: Sun, 13 Oct 1996 14:29:28 -0400
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I have recently purchased the PRO 2035 ($300, new, +1 yr warranty),  which I t
hink was a fair deal.
Then, I see in the forum that there is a lot of excitement regarding the much
older 2006. Are the radios that much different,
I thought they were both manufactured by GRE . I know the 2035 has a faster sc
an rate, more channels and is NOT
cell modifiable, other than that what is the difference?

Rob Kling
N8YBV


From [e-mail] Sat Oct 19 10:49:49 1996
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From: Rob Kling <[e-mail]>
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Subject: What's the diffence beteen the PRO2035 and the PRO2006?
Date: Sun, 13 Oct 1996 14:28:11 -0400
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I have recently purchased the PRO 2035 ($300, new, +1 yr warranty),  which I t
hink was a fair deal.
Then, I see in the forum that there is a lot of excitement regarding the much
older 2006. Are the radios that much different,
I thought they were both manufactured by GRE . I know the 2035 has a faster sc
an rate, more channels and is NOT
cell modifiable, other than that what is the difference?

Rob Kling
N8YBV


From [e-mail] Sat Oct 19 10:49:50 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Sid James)
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Subject: Why discriminator output anyway ??????
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Theres a lot of talk at the moment about poxsag and how it only seems
to work when connected to raw audio.
Can someone explain, apart from the obvious, the difference between
filtered and unfiltered ?.
Also how is it that the likes of hamcomm work quite happily through an
earphone socket of a shortwave receiver, but pocsag wont through a
scanner earphone socket.

And finally esther, and finally cyril......Would anyone have the
discriminator o/p location for

1. AR8000
2. AR800
3. AR3000A

Finally Finally... anyone wanting to try a windows version of pocsag
look on http://huizen.dds.nl/~mkalmijn/
It looks like it does the job

Regards Sid



From [e-mail] Sat Oct 19 10:49:51 1996
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From: "Bob Lyle" <[e-mail]>
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FYI, the folks at Rosetta say NT dirvers should be available early in 1997.
I was only evaluating the radio, not buying it, so I can wait. But you're
right, NT or perhaps "Cairo" may be the necessity for developers to
recognize rather than '95 or 3.11.

Regards!

½Bob╗

[e-mail]




From [e-mail] Sat Oct 19 10:49:52 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Nevr4Get U)
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Subject: WINRADIO... info needed
Date: 13 Oct 1996 18:05:27 -0400
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Does anyone outhere knowhow much WinRADIO cost. I tried the WinRADIO web
page, but al they have there is info about and the software for WinRADIO.
Any information would be greatly appreciated.


thanks in advance

ALDO

[e-mail]



From [e-mail] Sat Oct 19 10:49:52 1996
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From: Bob Fehlner <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Xplorer
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I just received my Xplorer...  And it doesn't support that resricted 800
range...  In fact, it may report harmonics for the restricted 800
frequencies...  Any known mods out yet...

And it doesn't support digital (not really surpised)...

And they have a bunch of filter and antenna combinations you can buy to
get the frequency you really wanted in the first place...

Not to mention a mapping accessories package for almost $150...

Hmmm...
--
Crazy Bob
[e-mail]


From [e-mail] Sat Oct 19 10:49:53 1996
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The Cellular Security Group can unlock your Xplorer . . . call 508-281-8892

Bob Fehlner <[e-mail]> wrote in article
<[e-mail]>...
> I just received my Xplorer...  And it doesn't support that resricted 800
> range...  In fact, it may report harmonics for the restricted 800
> frequencies...  Any known mods out yet...
>
> And it doesn't support digital (not really surpised)...
>
> And they have a bunch of filter and antenna combinations you can buy to
> get the frequency you really wanted in the first place...
>
> Not to mention a mapping accessories package for almost $150...
>
> Hmmm...
> --
> Crazy Bob
> [e-mail]
>


From [e-mail] Sat Oct 19 10:49:54 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Tom Howley)
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Subject: Re: Xplorer
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Run a search through Deja News (www.dejanews.com) with the name xplorer.
 Make sure you do a power search and search only the rec.radio.* groups.
  YOu will find several messages with the cell unblock code.

Tom

PS.  I saw the postings a couple of months ago.
In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] says...
>
>I just received my Xplorer...  And it doesn't support that resricted
800
>range...  In fact, it may report harmonics for the restricted 800
>frequencies...  Any known mods out yet...
>
>And it doesn't support digital (not really surpised)...
>
>And they have a bunch of filter and antenna combinations you can buy to
>get the frequency you really wanted in the first place...
>
>Not to mention a mapping accessories package for almost $150...
>
>Hmmm...
>--
>Crazy Bob
>[e-mail]



From [e-mail] Sat Oct 19 10:49:55 1996
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From: [e-mail]
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Subject: Re: YANKEE STADIUM FREQS WANTED!
Date: 18 OCT 96 18:53:00 GMT
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In a previous article, [e-mail] (NYChronic) wrote:
->Does anyone know the frequencies used in Yankee Stadium?
->I am going to the world Series and would love to here the plays being
->called.
->
->Thanks in advance for anyone with info.
-
 For NYC PD, you can try the following:
 477.0625
 476.9625 Bronx patrol freqs.
 471.0375 Yankee Stadium Detail (may or may not be in use)
 476.7375 Citywide 1
 476.6875 Citywide 2

 What I can't figure out is what you mean by "would love to hear the plays
 being called" This is'nt football. The players don't have little wireless
recievers in their caps. (although just about anything could be in Wetteland's
 cap! Have you seen that thing?!)
 You can hear the plat by play on regular AM radio.
 Actually I can't really see bringing my scanner to the game. Why not just sit
 back and enjoy.
 Phil


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From [e-mail] Sat Oct 19 10:49:57 1996
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From: Rich Wells <[e-mail]>
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Keep your commercial crap off this newsgroup...or I'm sure I and several
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Strong signals(except to this looser),
Rich Wells

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From: [e-mail] (Dan Morisseau)
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In article  [e-mail](George L. Vetterle) writes:


>Sounds like Michael Alexander has been sending you e-mail too :)


     Since Mikey lost out on his bid to become  "Supreme And Exalted Moderator

Of All Scanner Newsgroups" he has had a good deal of time on his hands. E-mail

keeps him entertained.    :)

====================================================================
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From [e-mail] Sat Oct 19 10:50:00 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Richard Kendrick)
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[e-mail](George L. Vetterle) wrote:

>Sounds like Michael Alexander has been sending you e-mail too :)

>In <542tua$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Richard
>Kendrick) writes:

[ stuff I wrote snipped ]

No, he hasn't, but if he had, the reply would be appropriate. It was really
directed at John Mackey, but at the time I posted it, I was engaged in
several other off-line activites simultaneously and inadvertently omitted
his name.



Richard Kendrick CET WA7TWI           |
Amateur Radio Extra Class             |  Do not adjust your mind, there
QRP #4129/G-QRP #8591/MI-QRP #M-1412  |  is a fault in reality.
Mesa, AZ  email: [e-mail]  |



From [e-mail] Sat Oct 19 10:50:01 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Michael Alexander)
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I wrote in my typical ignorant style>

>Well, better to keep you mouth shut and let people think you are a fool
>then to open your mouth and confirm it.

OK, I have confirmed that I am a fool and an asshole. I know more about
scanners than most of you dicks though.

--
Michael Alexander
[e-mail]



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From: [e-mail] (Bert)
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[e-mail] (DARKLY BRIGHT) wrote:

>        Do you consider 2-meters an 'entrenched interest'? They are
>        currently up for grabs and amateurs have little say in what
>        happens.

In the good ole USA politicle system, money rules, no 2 ways about it.

Bert Burland aka N5TOA / From The Texas Panhandle
EMail-([e-mail]) Fido-NetMail-(Sysop@1:3825/24)



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[e-mail] (Eric Helms) wrote:

>In article <01bbb538$656f2740$9b070ccf@jim-reid-1>, "Jim Reid"
><[e-mail]> wrote:

>I know that many people think that the FCC was and continues to be a royal
>pain in the _ _ _ but I for one will miss some of the support that was
>received from the FCC in the past.

>As society becomes more and more dependant on using the RF spectrum as a
>vehicle for communication and other activities, we need to ensure that the
>frequency spectrum is MANAGED in such a way that all of us may use it in
>one way or another.  Key word is manage, which to me means the focal point
>for activites.  What kind of activies am I talking about?

>I gave up on CB about 6 months after the FCC killed the license
>requirement for that activity.  The activities I encountered while
>listening/participating (at the time I was stationed in Hawaii) were rough
>to say the least.  (Linear amps with sideband splatter 3 channels either
>side of the base carrier.)  Perhaps I will get my ham license someday,
>provided that it too doesn't go away.

>As a boat owner, I carry a hand held Marine VHF.  The FCC has done in the
>majority of the license requirements for operation of Marine VHS as well.
>I can't wait to hear how out of control that band will get, considering
>that Marine VHF is often used for life support activites.

>The Livermore, CA monitoring facility (one of the ones which is becoming
>automated) is less than a mile from our RC aircraft flying field.  We have
>obtained the assistance from the FCC staff at that facility to help
>resolve issues with RFI problems several times in the past.  Where are we
>going to get real time assistance in the future?   Philly?

>Questions for all; Why are these facilities shutting down?  Why has the
>operations budget been reduced to a point where they can no longer do the
>job as defined by the charter?  What is the impact going to be on all of
>us?

>Eric Helms
>[e-mail]

It will certainly encourage a new generation of pirates!  I think that
we will be seeing lots of new activity on the hf bands and also lots
of interference on bands above 50 mhz.

The FCC has been a real disappointment to all I believe.  Since the
non-enforcement of CB started, its been downhill for them.  They are
quick to get into your pocket, but real weak in enforcing the rules.



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Based on my dealings, as a commercial broadcaster, with the FCC, I
suspect the agency's budget has been gobbled up by bureaucratic nonsense.
Paperwork became the top priority.  We were FAR more likely to get handed
major fines for an incorrect entry on an EEO form than for some
transgression that really mattered.

It isn't that the rules aren't being enforced, it's that priority is
being given to enforcing STUPID regulations.  That gives the appearance
that the FCC isn't doing their job.  But, then, I guess they aren't.

I wonder if the people of Virginia Beach really gave a damn that I had a
Native American as a Sales Manager.  Or would they have been more
concerned if my transmitter drifted off frequency and raised havoc with
air traffic control at the naval air station a few miles away?

Jim


On Fri, 11 Oct 1996, dj wrote:

> [e-mail] (Eric Helms) wrote:
>
> The FCC has been a real disappointment to all I believe.  Since the
> non-enforcement of CB started, its been downhill for them.  They are
> quick to get into your pocket, but real weak in enforcing the rules.
>


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 Don't think for a second that the FCC is going to let pirates fill the
airwaves. The statute of limitations is 7 long years. They may well be
luring pirates into going on the air with their apparent lack of
enforcement, all the while recording instances of violations, only to have
a massive sweep every few years. I don't think they'd give up a cash cow
like fines at 10 grand a pop.


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Eric Helms wrote:
>
> In article <01bbb538$656f2740$9b070ccf@jim-reid-1>, "Jim Reid"
> <[e-mail]> wrote:
>
> I know that many people think that the FCC was and continues to be a royal
> pain in the _ _ _ but I for one will miss some of the support that was
> received from the FCC in the past.
>
> As society becomes more and more dependant on using the RF spectrum as a
> vehicle for communication and other activities, we need to ensure that the
> frequency spectrum is MANAGED in such a way that all of us may use it in
> one way or another.  Key word is manage, which to me means the focal point
> for activites.  What kind of activies am I talking about?
>
> I gave up on CB about 6 months after the FCC killed the license
> requirement for that activity.  The activities I encountered while
> listening/participating (at the time I was stationed in Hawaii) were rough
> to say the least.  (Linear amps with sideband splatter 3 channels either
> side of the base carrier.)  Perhaps I will get my ham license someday,
> provided that it too doesn't go away.
>
> As a boat owner, I carry a hand held Marine VHF.  The FCC has done in the
> majority of the license requirements for operation of Marine VHS as well.
> I can't wait to hear how out of control that band will get, considering
> that Marine VHF is often used for life support activites.
>
> The Livermore, CA monitoring facility (one of the ones which is becoming
> automated) is less than a mile from our RC aircraft flying field.  We have
> obtained the assistance from the FCC staff at that facility to help
> resolve issues with RFI problems several times in the past.  Where are we
> going to get real time assistance in the future?   Philly?
>
> Questions for all; Why are these facilities shutting down?  Why has the
> operations budget been reduced to a point where they can no longer do the
> job as defined by the charter?  What is the impact going to be on all of
> us?
>
> Eric Helms
> [e-mail]
>
> --
> Actually since Radio is no longer a public service the FCC really has no
reason to enforce anything!  Radio is simply a marble for the big boys to
trade!


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From: "Douglas \"Lonely Planet Boy\" Shawhan" <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: ~FCC closes down all 12 monitoring stations
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On 8 Oct 1996, Jim Reid wrote:

>
>
> au <[e-mail]> wrote in article >
<53ct1f$[e-mail]>... > > From Mobile Radio
Technology Oct '96: > > > > "The FCC has closed all 12 of it's monitoring
stations. "  > > However, they ARE still monitoring from many of these >
same sights, remotely.  The data is sent to a central > monitoring station
near Washington DC, I believe.  So > the FCC is still monitoring both
commercial and amateur > activity in both the HF and VHF spectrum areas.
They > have to, by law, I believe.  This is another example of > Ann
Rands(Sp?) thesis that eventually all jobs for > most people will be taken
over by computers and > machines.  Only the very brilliant few will remain
useful > to the on going economy and whatever life style will exist > for
the un and under employed. > > 73, Jim, AH6NB > > Hmmmmmm..... I would say
au <[e-mail]> wrote in article
> <53ct1f$[e-mail]>...
> > From Mobile Radio Technology Oct '96:
> >
> > "The FCC has closed all 12 of it's monitoring stations. "
>
> However,  they ARE still monitoring from many of these
> same sights, remotely.  The data is sent to a central
> monitoring station near Washington DC,  I believe.  So
> the FCC is still monitoring both commercial and amateur
> activity in both the HF and VHF spectrum areas.  They
> have to,  by law,  I believe.  This is another example of
> Ann Rands(Sp?) thesis that eventually all jobs for
> most people will be taken over by computers and
> machines.  Only the very brilliant few will remain useful
> to the on going economy and whatever life style will exist
> for the un and under employed.
>
> 73,  Jim, AH6NB
>
>

Hmmmm.......  in this case the most moderate and sensitive answer to those
former FCC employees would be: HAR HAR! CRAWL INTO THAT BREADLINE YOU
PARASITES!  AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAA! I'M BUILDING A TRASMITTER IN MY
GARAGE THAT WILL GIVE SATAN AN RF BURN! THEY'RE GONNA HEAR ME JAMMING
HORTON HEAT IN *ASGARD!!* IM GOING TO BROADCAST OPININONS SO LUDICROUS
BIASED AND IRRESPONSIBLE THAT RUSH LIMBAUGH AND HOWARD STERN WILL END IT
ALL IN A CRYPTO-GOOFUS SUICIDE PACT!

*ahem* Sorry, I guess getting my first Ramsey catalog has made me a bit
uhh...... enthusiastic.



____________________________________________________________
If we can draw the line against the industrial machine in
America, and make it hold, then perhaps in the decades to
come we can gradually force industrialization underground,
where it belongs, and restore to all citizens of our nation
their rightful heritage of breatheable air, drinkable water,
open space, family farm agriculture, a truly democratic
political economy. Why settle for less? -Edward Abbey
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[e-mail] (dj) wrote:

>[e-mail] (Eric Helms) wrote:

>>In article <01bbb538$656f2740$9b070ccf@jim-reid-1>, "Jim Reid"
>><[e-mail]> wrote:

>>I know that many people think that the FCC was and continues to be a royal
>>pain in the _ _ _ but I for one will miss some of the support that was
>>received from the FCC in the past.

>>As society becomes more and more dependant on using the RF spectrum as a
>>vehicle for communication and other activities, we need to ensure that the
>>frequency spectrum is MANAGED in such a way that all of us may use it in
>>one way or another.  Key word is manage, which to me means the focal point
>>for activites.  What kind of activies am I talking about?

>>I gave up on CB about 6 months after the FCC killed the license
>>requirement for that activity.  The activities I encountered while
>>listening/participating (at the time I was stationed in Hawaii) were rough
>>to say the least.  (Linear amps with sideband splatter 3 channels either
>>side of the base carrier.)  Perhaps I will get my ham license someday,
>>provided that it too doesn't go away.

>>As a boat owner, I carry a hand held Marine VHF.  The FCC has done in the
>>majority of the license requirements for operation of Marine VHS as well.
>>I can't wait to hear how out of control that band will get, considering
>>that Marine VHF is often used for life support activites.

>>The Livermore, CA monitoring facility (one of the ones which is becoming
>>automated) is less than a mile from our RC aircraft flying field.  We have
>>obtained the assistance from the FCC staff at that facility to help
>>resolve issues with RFI problems several times in the past.  Where are we
>>going to get real time assistance in the future?   Philly?

>>Questions for all; Why are these facilities shutting down?  Why has the
>>operations budget been reduced to a point where they can no longer do the
>>job as defined by the charter?  What is the impact going to be on all of
>>us?

>>Eric Helms
>>[e-mail]

>It will certainly encourage a new generation of pirates!  I think that
>we will be seeing lots of new activity on the hf bands and also lots
>of interference on bands above 50 mhz.

>The FCC has been a real disappointment to all I believe.  Since the
>non-enforcement of CB started, its been downhill for them.  They are
>quick to get into your pocket, but real weak in enforcing the rules.

ditto...i'm a tech for 800 and 900MHZ trunked radio systems in the
Houston area....the interferance (mainly paging xmtrs and other
spurious uhf xmtrs) gets very bad...and the ONLY FCC field rep is a
suit and tie type that doesn't work the field..we've been told in the
past to "work it out among ourselves" with violators!!!!




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BAYCITVIDGRP wrote:

>    to the idiot guy...

shut up fool.




From [e-mail] Sat Oct 19 10:50:11 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Cloud78572)
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Subject: Re: ~FCC closes down all 12 monitoring stations~
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 Closing the monitoring stations means nothing. They probably just monitor
via satellite now. A lot easier, and they can hear EVERYTHING. No more
line of sight problems. No one can hide.


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It doesn't work like that.



Cloud78572 ([e-mail]) wrote:
:  Closing the monitoring stations means nothing. They probably just monitor
: via satellite now. A lot easier, and they can hear EVERYTHING. No more
: line of sight problems. No one can hide.


From [e-mail] Wed Oct 30 06:54:20 1996
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From: "Barry Burke Jr." <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: ** Overheating cell phone?? **
Date: Mon, 21 Oct 1996 08:54:19 -0700
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rgdong wrote:
>
>         Take a look inside the cell phone port and see if by chance,
>         any of the flimsy contacts may have been bent during repeated



> > >        did not charge the battery. ***___I got her a new power cord that
 also
> > >        charges the battery.___** She had been in the habit of leaving th
e
> > >        phone connected most of the time in the car. Now she says the
> > >        phone is noticeably hot to the touch...that she thinks the batter
y
> > >        is overcharging.


Ray,
        This guy is NUKING his NiCds.  Some cars have cigarette lighters that are NOT
 keyed.  If it was
        shorted it should have blown the fuse built into the charge cord (every cellu
lar charge cord I've
        ever seen has a 3-5 amp fuse)


Barry



From [e-mail] Wed Oct 30 06:54:22 1996
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Date: Mon, 21 Oct 1996 11:25:01 EDT
From: Dave Shaffer <[e-mail]>
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In my previous post, I reported that a NiCad battery on my wife's
cell phone was overheating when left connected in the car to a
cigarette lighter charge cord. I suspected that the cord was the
main problem, and it may yet prove to be part of the problem.

I had a chance to look at the set-up over the weekend. The phone
was in the car connected to the power cord. It was not only hot, but
if also registered only two bars on the battery meter.

I have a separate motorola phone in my car with a NiMH battery.
I switched batteries on the phone and connected my wife's phone
to the cord again. 24 hours later it was not hot but registered
six bars on the power meter. (Six is the max on these phones.)

Meanwhile, I discharged the ni-cad as completely as possible,
which didn't take much time. I then attempted to recharge it
overnight and it did not take a full charge. (Three bars.)

I have a more sophisticated charge system in my car that involves
a 3-watt booster for the phone. I connected my phone (still with
the Ni-Cad battery) to that system this morning and found that
the battery was still overheating and not showing a full charge.

Still this morning the phone in my wife's car with my NiMH battery
was cool and fully charged.

The Ni-CAd is one year old but had seen a fair amount of use in that
time. Given this new evidence, I suspect the battery may have been
going bad. The experience so far suggests that the NiMH battery may be
just fine on my wife's phone.

Questions...

Is the condition of the Ni-cad just routine, or did I cause it to
develop these symptoms by keeping it connected to the charge cord?

Is the difference in NiCad and NiMH batteries part of the issue?

Is there any danger in keeping the battery connected in that fashion?

Can I logically assume that the NiCad is basically a goner and needs
to be replaced? Can it be reconditioned?

Thanks again for your comments and input so far...

- Dave


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Going Broke ([e-mail]) wrote:
: I just purchased a motorola flip phone, and the operating instructions
: specifically state DO NOT CHARGE BATTERY MORE THAN 24 HOURS.
: Based on this I'd venture to guess you fried the battery, as most newer
: cars have a hot lighter (meaning the key does not have to be on to use
: it).

It seems like "overhearing" cell phone would be more appropriate for this
group.


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I just purchased a motorola flip phone, and the operating instructions
specifically state DO NOT CHARGE BATTERY MORE THAN 24 HOURS.
Based on this I'd venture to guess you fried the battery, as most newer
cars have a hot lighter (meaning the key does not have to be on to use
it).

-
   Larry
-
  GOING BROKE
  [e-mail]




From [e-mail] Wed Oct 30 06:54:25 1996
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From: Rick Solis <[e-mail]>
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Subject: *correction* Re: GE PCS-Scan Radio for Sale
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Rick Solis wrote:
>
> For Sale: PCS-Scan radio package.
> Used but in good condition.
> 16 Channel GE PCS Radio with Scan- VHF BAND
> 2 Batteries / Rapid Charger
> 3/4 wave and stubby antennae
> Alligator and swivel clips
> Shoulder mike
>
> I can program it prior to shipping if needed.
>
> Reply by E-mail; please do not post to group.

***CORRECTION***

The radio is a UHF radio.  Asking price for the whole pkg. is US$ 600.00
OBO.

Sorry for the inconvenience.


--
Rick Solis NREMT-P
Athens-Limestone Emergency Medical Services
"Oh, bother" said Pooh as he took the ET out of the esophagus...


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Rick Solis <[e-mail]> wrote:

>Rick Solis wrote:
>>
>> For Sale: PCS-Scan radio package.
>> Used but in good condition.
>> 16 Channel GE PCS Radio with Scan- VHF BAND
>> 2 Batteries / Rapid Charger
>> 3/4 wave and stubby antennae
>> Alligator and swivel clips
>> Shoulder mike
>>


Thats almost as much as a new one!  How old exactly is it and how much
has it really been used?








Chris



From [e-mail] Wed Oct 30 06:54:26 1996
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From: Greg Gilbert <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: 2.0 Ghz to 2.6 Ghz
Date: Mon, 28 Oct 1996 20:46:31 -0500
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Hi All,

Question: What's there to hear in the range between 2.0 Ghz and
2.6 Ghz? If one is to buy a new receiver does it make any difference
in the upper receive limits?

Open to any comments. Thanks to all in advance.

:-) Greg
--
Marietta, GA USA  @_____________@       _____           |
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From [e-mail] Wed Oct 30 06:54:27 1996
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From: "Scott A. Nelson" <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: 2006/PRO34 speed mod
Date: Sun, 27 Oct 1996 10:59:10 -0800
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A few years ago I tried to modify mt PRO34 for increased scanning
speed. The mod worked fine- it increased scanning speed, but it would
never stop on anything!  The NOAA wx wouldn't even stop it.  I then
decided that it would be better to slow it back down.  I did and it works
fine.
     My question is this.  I also have a PRO2006 and have thought about
doing this mod, but have never done so based on my previous experience.
Has anyone else ever had this problem?  Are you satisfied with your 2006
speed modification?  Thanks in advance.

                                                -- Scott --


From [e-mail] Wed Oct 30 06:54:28 1996
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From: [e-mail] (m. mattson)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: 2006/PRO34 speed mod
Date: Mon, 28 Oct 1996 00:50:02 GMT
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"Scott A. Nelson" <[e-mail]> wrote:

>A few years ago I tried to modify mt PRO34 for increased scanning
>speed. The mod worked fine- it increased scanning speed, but it would
>never stop on anything!  The NOAA wx wouldn't even stop it.  I then
>decided that it would be better to slow it back down.  I did and it works
>fine.
>     My question is this.  I also have a PRO2006 and have thought about
>doing this mod, but have never done so based on my previous experience.
>Has anyone else ever had this problem?  Are you satisfied with your 2006
>speed modification?  Thanks in advance.

>                                               -- Scott --

I suspect you may have tried to go too far with your 34.  It is
adviseable to not exceed 2X the original speed.  I modded mine years
ago with no problem.

Mark

The truth as I perceive it to be.
Your perception will be different.




From [e-mail] Wed Oct 30 06:54:29 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Michael Alexander)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: 2006/PRO34 speed mod
Date: Mon, 28 Oct 1996 15:07:29 -0400
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In article <[e-mail]>, "Scott A. Nelson" <[e-mail]> wrote:

> A few years ago I tried to modify mt PRO34 for increased scanning
> speed. The mod worked fine- it increased scanning speed, but it would
> never stop on anything!  The NOAA wx wouldn't even stop it.  I then
> decided that it would be better to slow it back down.  I did and it works
> fine.
>      My question is this.  I also have a PRO2006 and have thought about
> doing this mod, but have never done so based on my previous experience.
> Has anyone else ever had this problem?  Are you satisfied with your 2006
> speed modification?  Thanks in advance.
>
>                                                 -- Scott --

Funny you should mention this. Recently, I bought a 2006 and was musing
whether to do this so-called "speed mod." The fact is, I did on another
model that I owned and did not see a bit of difference. Cutting the diode
didn't seem to hurt anything; but it didn't help either. When faced with
the same option this time, I elected not to do it. Has anyone confirmed
whether this "mod" actually works?

--
Michael Alexander
[e-mail]


From [e-mail] Wed Oct 30 06:54:30 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Bob Parnass, AJ9S)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner,alt.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: 2006/PRO34 speed mod
Date: 28 Oct 1996 23:10:22 GMT
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First, it's not a good idea to change the CPU clock crystal/resonator
in a scanner as a way to alter scan rate.

I added diode D501 to the PRO-2006 I reviewed in October 1990
Monitoring Times, but measured no difference in scan or search
rate thereafter.  This is confusing as I've seen postings which
claim otherwise.  ....Your mileage may vary.

In article <[e-mail]>,
Michael Alexander <[e-mail]> wrote:

    > ... I bought a 2006 and was musing whether to do this
    >so-called "speed mod." The fact is, I did on another
    >model that I owned and did not see a bit of difference.
    > Cutting the diode didn't seem to hurt anything;
    >but it didn't help either. When faced with
    >the same option this time, I elected not to do it.
    >Has anyone confirmed
    >whether this "mod" actually works?

From the PRO-2006 review:

" ...The PRO-2006 has two scan speeds,  which  measured  approxi-
mately  13  and  26 channels/second.  While scanning at high
speed, the PRO-2006 won't skip over weak signals  like  some
of the AOR-2515 scanners do.  Adding diode D501, situated at
an unmarked location between D502 and D503 sped up the  PRO-
2005 scan and search rates by 25%.  Adding the same diode in
the PRO-2006 has no effect on the scan or search rates.

It has been claimed that a PRO-2005 could  be  made  into  a
PRO-2006  by merely replacing the CPU clock crystal with one
of a higher frequency.   Don't  believe  it.   Changing  the
PRO-2005  clock speed would affect both the rescan delay and
the priority rate, and they would no  longer  be  2  seconds
long, as they are in the PRO-2006...."
--
==============================================================================
Copyright 1996, Bob Parnass, AJ9S                        [e-mail]

        Locate & identify transmitters in your area with RadioMap(tm)


From [e-mail] Wed Oct 30 06:54:31 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Gary Ross)
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Subject: Re: 2006/PRO34 speed mod
Date: 30 Oct 1996 03:26:10 GMT
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In article <553egu$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] wrote:

> First, it's not a good idea to change the CPU clock crystal/resonator
> in a scanner as a way to alter scan rate.

I agree it's not the ideal way, but it worked for me on a PRO-34 and 2006.
Sure it shortens the delay time, but the speed increase was worth it. I
compared both chipped scanners to stock units and detected no loss of
signals.

I don't recall the crystal I used in the PRO-34. The 2006 ran well with a
16MHz crystal. Faster speeds caused CPU lockup.

Gary
--

Gary Ross
[e-mail]
[e-mail]




From [e-mail] Wed Oct 30 06:54:32 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Larry Levy)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: 415.7 AF-1 Dead?
Date: Sat, 26 Oct 1996 00:31:05 GMT
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[e-mail] (N5OFF) wrote:

>Well, The Pres was all over my state yesterday and today, and for the
>first time, 415.7 was dead.

>Any ideas?  Did they finally figure out that the use of this was risky?

>73

I don't think so...A few weeks ago when the President was here in
L.A., I monitored some routine traffic between Executive1 through
Crown Control running a phone patch to Andrews AFB.

Boring stuff...but at least it was on 415.700.

-Larry



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From: [e-mail](Steve S)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: 415.7 AF-1 Dead?
Date: 26 Oct 1996 00:22:48 GMT
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In <54qt8d$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (N5OFF) writes:
>
>Well, The Pres was all over my state yesterday and today, and for the
>first time, 415.7 was dead.
>
>Any ideas?  Did they finally figure out that the use of this was
risky?
>
>73
I'm sitting here at my scanner right now listening to Robins AFB
security since the Prez is in Macon (and on base) right now. No 415.7
activity but I'm listening to USAF security go through ramp security
checks.

Steve S.


From [e-mail] Wed Oct 30 06:54:34 1996
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From: Tim Tyler <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: 415.7 AF-1 Dead?
Date: Sat, 26 Oct 1996 05:07:07 -0400
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Larry Levy wrote:
>
> [e-mail] (N5OFF) wrote:
>
> >Well, The Pres was all over my state yesterday and today, and for the
> >first time, 415.7 was dead.
>
> >Any ideas?  Did they finally figure out that the use of this was risky?

  They always knew that E/F was very much a non-secure circuit (save for
use of STU-IIIs on it over the past couple years) monitored by thousands
of citizens, spies, and worst of all, THE MEDIA all over the USA.  One
very wealthy hobbyist even paid for remote receive sites located at/near
E/F ground sites, so he could monitor both sides of all E/F traffic
years ago, and this was known to WHCA.


   The problem is/was that some of the people using that circuit just
couldn't get it through their thick but empty skulls that it was a
non-secure circuit using a standard, well-known radio frequency pair!
Classified traffic would occasionally go out over it until the aircraft
radio or CROWN operator quickly cut it off, or some clowns would try to
'talk-around' classified traffic...


   Current E/F traffic levels depend on what aircraft is being used,
where the aircraft is (including altitude -- E/F is far from having
"NATIONWIDE" coverage), & of course the traffic needing to be passed.


  Satellite-based systems these days have helped make the E/F network an
old, semi-obsolete (mostly obsolete except for being a redundant
circuit) analog-based system that they often have trouble securing (via
STU-IIIs) & costs WHCA a couple million dollars a year to maintain.


   Yet this Spring, I caught Hitlary (aboard E1F in my area) talking to
(yes, talking *to*, not talking WITH) Bill (aboard AF1 in CA) on it.


    So I wouldn't exactly take that freq out of my scanners just yet --
but maybe sometime in the next couple of years.



    Tim


From [e-mail] Wed Oct 30 06:54:34 1996
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From: [e-mail] (T. Mooney)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: 800 mhz scanner!
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Does anyone know where I can get a 800 mhz scanner cheap around the
Toronto Area? I don't care if its used or whatever..



From [e-mail] Wed Oct 30 06:54:35 1996
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From: Bob Mann <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: 900Mhz spread spectrum cordless phones
Date: Wed, 23 Oct 1996 10:41:43 -0400
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What's the group's view on the best value in an un-monitorable, 2-line
900Mhz spread spectrum cordless phone?  Appreciate your responses.
--
- Bob Mann
  R.W. Mann & Company, Inc.
  e-mail:  [e-mail]
  http://www.interport.net/~rwmannco/


From [e-mail] Wed Oct 30 06:54:36 1996
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From: John Mackey-KA0SSF <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: [Fwd: Back at it again]
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John..Mackey..KA0SSF wrote:

 Subject: Back at it again
 Date: Fri, 25 Oct 1996 08:55:46 -0700
 From: Bill Cheek <[e-mail]>
 To: [e-mail]

> Still up to your old tricks, eh Johnnie Baby?
> Just can't leave well enough alone, can you?
> You sure do spend a LOT of time on me.  Sounds
> like a faggoty thing to do, Johnny Mackey, when
> you ought to have better things to do with your time.

You homosexual tendiencies are showing again Bill.  You always
like to talk about faggots, gays, & the like.

Now who is up to their old tricks?

I thought you wanted a truce.

You actions indicate differently.



From [e-mail] Wed Oct 30 06:54:37 1996
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From: Michael Smith <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: [MODS] BC-80XLT
Date: Mon, 21 Oct 1996 10:12:10 -0400
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Does ne1 know of any mods available for the BC-80XLT?

        Thanks in advance!


From [e-mail] Wed Oct 30 06:54:38 1996
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From: Chris Altwegg <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner,alt.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: [Wanted] Seattle/Bellevue/Redmond WA frequencies
Date: Thu, 24 Oct 1996 07:46:50 -0700
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Gary Palmer wrote:
>
> [Wanted] Good Seattle / Bellevue / Redmond Washington frequencies to
> burn up some time in the hotel room.
>
> Please email them to me (in additional to posting to this list if you
> wish)--my ISP has lots of problems with their news server and I don't
> want to miss them.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Gary Palmer
> [e-mail]


You might try:  http://www.wolfenet.com/~daydream/index.html
for local police and other frequencies
--
Chris Altwegg                    |  [e-mail]
Pinpoint Direct Marketing Mgmt.  |  206-523-6477 (voice)
6001 NE 61st. St.                |  206-523-6559 (fax)
Seattle, WA 98115                |  206-522-8099 (home)


From [e-mail] Wed Oct 30 06:54:39 1996
Date: Thu, 24 Oct 1996 00:21:58 +1000
From: "Michael" <[e-mail]>
Subject: AAA Nokia 2110 secret codes for hidden features ?
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I'm looking for Secret codes for the Nokia 2110e.

I understand it is capable of working as a 2 way radio with another
similar phone.

Any help ?

Ozmik

[e-mail]

or

[e-mail]


From [e-mail] Wed Oct 30 06:54:40 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Steve Work)
Subject: Re: AAA Nokia 2110 secret codes for hidden features ?
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Michael ([e-mail]) wrote:
: I'm looking for Secret codes for the Nokia 2110e.

: I understand it is capable of working as a 2 way radio with another
: similar phone.

Cell phones are not capable of talking to each other as 2-way radios,
because the transmit frequency of the phone is *always* 45Mhz below the
receive frequency.  In order to talk directly to each other, one phone
would have to transmit on a frequency which the other receives.  This is
not possible the way the phones are designed.

However, many cell phones have a test mode which allows the phone to
monitor a channel and listen in on another phone using that frequency.
But newer phones have this "test" feature either disabled or restricted
because it encourages people to monitor calls.  In some countries (i.e.
the US) this is not legal to do.


From [e-mail] Wed Oct 30 06:54:41 1996
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From: Brian Varine <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: AF-1 Freq List.
Date: Sat, 26 Oct 1996 12:56:08 -0700
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I've seen the common pair listed on here, just wondering if anyone has a
master list of AF-1 freqs. Any ideas on what AF-2 uses? The VP will be in
Eugene soon so I wonder if I can snag anything up here in Cornvalley.

==============================================================================
Brian R. Varine <[e-mail]>                     Finger for PGP Key
http://www.orst.edu/~varineb                               When in doubt,
Stop Highway Robbery! http://www.motorists.com               -=JAM IT=-





From [e-mail] Wed Oct 30 06:54:42 1996
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From: [e-mail] (DMeans7115)
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Subject: Re: AF-1 Freq List.
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would like to have the same information, if you have it.
please email me...
thanx
dan
[e-mail]
(OHIO)


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From: [e-mail] (Dick Zeitlin)
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On Tue, 08 Oct 1996 13:34:15 -0400, Tim Tyler <[e-mail]> wrote:

>   While I'm at it, someone recently indicated in this forum that
>EXECUTIVE ONE FOXTROT is any civil aircraft transporting a member of the
>'first family.' Untrue.  The aircraft used are normally standard
>USAF/89th AW birds like a C-20.

From the horse's mouth  (Air Traffic Control Handbook 7110.65J,
                         Section 2-4-20, Aircraft Identification ):

        (Note that this refers to the identification of aircraft
         under US ATC  handling.  When outside this country there
         are ICAO regulations for aircraft identification.)

------------------

      9. Presidential aircraft and Presidential family aircraft:
         (a) When the President is aboard a military aircraft, state
the name of the military service, followed by the word "One."

   Examples -
      "Air Force One."
      "Army One."
      "Marine One."

         (b) When the President is aboard a civil aircraft, state the
words "Executive One."
         (c) When a member of the President's family is aboard any
aircraft, if the U.S. Secret Service or the White House Staff
determines it is necessary, state the words "Executive One Foxtrot."

   Reference -
      FAAO 7110.65, Operational Priority, paragraph 2-1-4.

      10. Vice Presidential aircraft:
         (a) When the Vice President is aboard a military aircraft,
state the name of the military service, followed by the word "Two."

   Examples -
      "Air Force Two."
      "Army Two."
      "Marine Two."

         (b) When the Vice President is aboard a civil aircraft, state
the words "Executive Two."
         (c) When a member of the Vice President's family is aboard
any aircraft, if the U.S. Secret Service or the White House Staff
determines it is necessary, state the words "Executive Two Foxtrot."

   Reference -
      FAAO 7110.65, Operational Priority, paragraph 2-1-4.

----------------------

If anyone's really interested I can post the entire section, which
discusses civil, rescue, military, etc. callsigns.

        D/

--
ObDis: The account is borrowed.  The thoughts are all mine.


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From: [e-mail] (cleve e massey)
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I found a good web site with a link to a major airport comm and nav freq
guide...

www.simuflite.com

Do not go to the link that says airports...that is airport web pages...but
the comm and navaid link is terrific...

If you know the airport three letter code, all the info is right
there...and since it is intended for pilots, then it is updated real
often...

BTW...if you are visiting or doing business in Dallas and have time on
your hands before a departure...they have a new observation area on the
southeast end of the airport...follow the signs from the E. Airfield Rd.
You get a terrific view of the east side of the airfield and if you are
lucky, planes landing on 17L will taxi right by you...and if you have
forgotten your scanner they have tower comms piped to a loudspeaker right
there...

This afternoon after the skies cleared there was not an empty parking
space out there...

just for your info...cleve


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From: [e-mail] (KingsleyH)
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Subject: Airport/Tower
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I live near Boston Logan International Airport and can listen to all the
airport traffic from the planes but am unable to hear the Tower.  I have
the freq's but no luck.  Does anyone have a suggestion???

Hal Kingsley


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KingsleyH ([e-mail]) wrote:
: I live near Boston Logan International Airport and can listen to all the
: airport traffic from the planes but am unable to hear the Tower.  I have
: the freq's but no luck.  Does anyone have a suggestion???
:
: Hal Kingsley

This is not uncommon.  Tower radios can be low power with a low antenna
because they have line of sight to their targets, the planes.  The planes,
of course, have line of sight to a wide area including your antenna.  An
elevated outdoor antenna might be required for you to hear the tower.

Mike



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What Kind of scanner do you got?

Well here is one possibility...When you program the freqs., it should say
AM somewhere by the freqs. being displayed on the scanner, but if you tell
me what scanner you got I could help you even more, so get back to me with
your type of scanner u got...bye


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In article <54qgts$[e-mail]>, [e-mail]
(KingsleyH) writes:

>I live near Boston Logan International Airport and can listen to all the
>airport traffic from the planes but am unable to hear the Tower.  I have
>the freq's but no luck.  Does anyone have a suggestion???
>
>Hal Kingsley

Ft. Lauderdale airport has their tower and ground freqs. on little signs
at both ends of the runway.  I don't know if this is common at all
airports but you may want to take a ride out to the airport and check it
out maybe bring some binoculars if the runways are not close to a road,
plus this could help you get familiar with the airports layout this helps
when listening to the ground freq.

Just a suggestion................hope it helps.


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From: "Robert H. Eisner" <[e-mail]>
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KingsleyH wrote:
>
> I live near Boston Logan International Airport and can listen to all the
> airport traffic from the planes but am unable to hear the Tower.  I have
> the freq's but no luck.  Does anyone have a suggestion???
>
> Hal Kingsley

Hi Hal,

You have to be fairly close to hear the Tower frequency.  I live about
10 miles from Dulles Intl Airport, just outside of Washington, DC and
can barely hear the tower.

Are you sure that you're tune to the right frequency?

Boston Logan Intl Airport operates on the following:

                              UNICOM: 122.95
                                ATIS: 135.0(617-567-0160)
                       BOSTON GROUND: 121.9
                        BOSTON TOWER: 119.1
                                      121.75(HELICOPTERS)
                                      128.8
                                      128.8
                     BOSTON APPROACH: 118.25(NORTH)
                                      120.6(SOUTH)
                                      127.2(WEST)
                                      126.5
                    BOSTON DEPARTURE: 133.0
                  CLEARANCE DELIVERY: 121.65
                  PRE-TAXI CLEARANCE: 121.65
         (ARR/DEP RYS 04R/22L 09/27): 128.8
(ARR/DEP RYS 4L/22R 15R/33L 15L/33R): 128.8
           (ARR/DEP RYS 4R/22L 9/27): 119.1
                             CLASS B: 124.1(091-269)
                                      124.4(270-090)
                               EMERG: 121.5
                            GATE CTL: 134.05
                                  IC: 120.6(SOUTH)


Bob


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You don't have to be close to the tower, it just depends on the
situations, I live 35 miles from one and can pick it up cristal Clear


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From: [e-mail] (Jerry Green)
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[e-mail] (JoeF27802) wrote:

>In article <54qgts$[e-mail]>, [e-mail]
>(KingsleyH) writes:
>
>>I live near Boston Logan International Airport and can listen to all the
>>airport traffic from the planes but am unable to hear the Tower.  I have
>>the freq's but no luck.  Does anyone have a suggestion???
>>
>>Hal Kingsley
>
>Ft. Lauderdale airport has their tower and ground freqs. on little signs
>at both ends of the runway.  I don't know if this is common at all
>airports but you may want to take a ride out to the airport and check it
>out maybe bring some binoculars if the runways are not close to a road,
>plus this could help you get familiar with the airports layout this helps
>when listening to the ground freq.
>
>Just a suggestion................hope it helps.


All the freqs are on the Internet as well at
http://www.cc.gatech.edu/dbl/fly/airport-info-html

You even get diagrams of the runways

Regards

Jerry/TYS


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Robert H. Eisner wrote:
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> The URL that I specified is:
>
>  http://www.cc.gatech.edu/dbl/fly/airport-info-html
>
> Bob

use http://www.cc.gatech.edu/db1/fly/airport-info.html
                               ^                 ^

that should get you there.

pht


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Jerry Green wrote:
>
> [e-mail] (JoeF27802) wrote:
>
> >In article <54qgts$[e-mail]>, [e-mail]
> >(KingsleyH) writes:
> >
> >>I live near Boston Logan International Airport and can listen to all the
> >>airport traffic from the planes but am unable to hear the Tower.  I have
> >>the freq's but no luck.  Does anyone have a suggestion???
> >>
> >>Hal Kingsley
> >
> >Ft. Lauderdale airport has their tower and ground freqs. on little signs
> >at both ends of the runway.  I don't know if this is common at all
> >airports but you may want to take a ride out to the airport and check it
> >out maybe bring some binoculars if the runways are not close to a road,
> >plus this could help you get familiar with the airports layout this helps
> >when listening to the ground freq.
> >
> >Just a suggestion................hope it helps.
>
> All the freqs are on the Internet as well at
> http://www.cc.gatech.edu/dbl/fly/airport-info-html
>
> You even get diagrams of the runways
>
> Regards
>
> Jerry/TYS

Hi Jerry,

the URL you posted is invalid.  I got the following error:

 File Not found

 The requested URL /dbl/fly/airport-info-html was not found on this
server.

The URL that I specified is:

 http://www.cc.gatech.edu/dbl/fly/airport-info-html

Bob


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From: Wes Padilla <[e-mail]>
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KingsleyH wrote:
>
> I live near Boston Logan International Airport and can listen to all the air
port traffic from the planes but am unable to hear the Tower.  I
have the freq's but no luck.  Does anyone have a suggestion???

> Hal Kingsley
    I have an antenna about 15 or 20 ft AGL...hooked up to a Pro-2006.
I live about 25 miles east of LAX, 40 or 50 miles to the se of Catalina
and about 50 or 60 north of Oceanside. I can always hear LAX Tower,
Ground, Clearance Delivery and sometimes ATIS. I sometimes hear Burbank
ground coms. It just depends on the antenna, how long your coaxial cable
is, what quality it is, and how far you are from the station. But I
noticed a great difference with my 40 dollar antenna.

Wes


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From: [e-mail] (Patrick W. P. Dirks)
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Subject: Re: Airport/Tower
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In article <54qgts$[e-mail]>, [e-mail]
(KingsleyH) writes:

>I live near Boston Logan International Airport and can listen to all the
>airport traffic from the planes but am unable to hear the Tower.  I have
>the freq's but no luck.  Does anyone have a suggestion???
>
>Hal Kingsley

Simple.  I'm assuming you don't have the wrong frequency, like one for
"Boston Center" instead of "Boston/Logan Tower", but I notice there are
lots of follow-ups to help you verify your frequency.  VHF communications
are limited to line-of-sight.  If the airport is beyond your horizon,
you're not going to receive the tower's communications but you *WILL*
receive the plane's transmissions because they originate at high(er)
altitudes, within a direct line from your scanner.

In theory, you could picture a smooth marble with a radius of 3957 miles.
Picture yourself standing on top of it and think how far you can see; the
point where your line of sight meets the marble surface (i.e. the farthes
you can see) is a point exactly "r" from the center of the earth.  Your
eyes are at some height "h" above the earth's surface so they're at r+h.
The distance "d" between where you're standing and your horizon can be
derived using the Pythagorean theorem: (r+h)^2 = r^2 + d^2; solving for d
yields

    d = sqrt( (r+h)^2 - r^2 )     or

    d = sqrt( 2rh + h^2 )

Thats the distance you can receive a station that's at ground level.

In practice it's hard to give an exact radius from the airport where you
should expect to receive the tower because it depends on the height of the
tower's transmitting antenna as well as your scanner antenna (not to
mention the buildings in between that interfere with the signal).  The
higher each antenna, the larger the potential reception range.  If your
scanner is portable you could try brining it closer to the airport or to
some higher ground to see the difference.

Hope that helps,
-Patrick Penzias Dirks.


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From: Tim Tyler <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: Alabama "HEAR" freq
Date: Mon, 21 Oct 1996 13:29:46 -0400
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Taliesin wrote:
>
> David & Sissy Coffin <[e-mail]> wrote:
> -> I am looking for the "HEAR" frequency for Alabama.  I have the FCC
> -> database, but am having trouble locating this freq.
>
> -> David
>
> What is HEAR?

  Hospital ER/Ambulance Radio (system/network).  A freq that an
ambulance can use to alert a hospital ER that they're enroute with a
patient & let them know the patient's condition, etc.  ER staff can also
give EMTs medical instructions over the net.


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[e-mail] (David & Sissy Coffin) said:
> I am looking for the "HEAR" frequency for Alabama.


From the  FAF - Frequently Asked Frequencies
      on  ftp://oak.oakland.edu
      as  /pub/hamradio/docs/misc/scanner.faf


Public Safety Intersystem

    Police                                                   [90.19]
       39.46   intersystem operations only
       45.86   intersystem operations only
      155.370  (widely used, but not a Federal allocation)
      155.475  statewide emergency nets
      173.075  stolen vehicle recovery (LoJack)
      154.665 .680 .695 }  State Police
      154.905 .920 .935 }    coordinated
      155.445 .460 .490 }      operations

    Fire                                                     [90.21]
       45.88   intersystem, primarily base-mobile
      154.265 .280 .295  mutual aid

    Emergency Medical                                        [90.27]
      155.340  HEAR - Hospital Emerg. Ambul. Radio
      460.525 .550  inter/intrasystem w/ Police & Fire
         (also see FAF-Ambulances for MED channels)

    Public Safety - all
      220.8025-220.8475  Mutual Aid (5 kHz intervals)       [90.720]
      866.0125 .5125 }
      867.0125 .5125 }  Mutual Aid                          [90.617]
      868.0125       }

    (mobile freqs:  220 +1 MHz;  460 +5 MHz;  860 -45 MHz)



From [e-mail] Wed Oct 30 06:54:58 1996
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From: [e-mail]
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Subject: Re: Alabama "HEAR" freq
Date: 27 Oct 1996 00:51:35 GMT
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>   [e-mail] (David & Sissy Coffin) writes:
>  I am looking for the "HEAR" frequency for Alabama.  I have the FCC
>  database, but am having trouble locating this freq.
>
>  David
>
>
>>>>
I would check out 155.3400 MHz.  This is a nationwide Hospital-Ambulance frequ
ency.


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From: [e-mail] (tyler)
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Subject: Andrews AFB frequencies?
Date: 30 Oct 1996 00:58:53 GMT
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I'm not that far from Andrews and would be very interested to get some
frequencies of their aircraft of any sort.  Any help in pointing me in the
right direction would be greatly appreciated.  Thanks.
Tyler



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From: [e-mail] (Edwin Janssen)
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Aan 17-10-96 14:09, in bericht <[e-mail]>, kEN Colburn
<[e-mail]> schreef:

mister X ([e-mail]) wrote:
: Hoi

: Zijn hier ook nederlanders die deze lijst lezen

i don't agree. i think Ginger was foxier.

Ik lees deze groep ook wel een s maar eigenlijk nooit iets waar ik iets aan he
b.
Het zou misschien verstandiger zijn als er een Nederlandse Scannergroep beston
d,vind je ook niet?-

groeten
[e-mail]




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From: Chris Altwegg <[e-mail]>
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Subject: AOR 8000 and Broadcast Band?
Date: Fri, 25 Oct 1996 17:19:03 -0700
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I just got an AOR 8000, and while I'm pretty happy with the radio and
all it's features, my radio seems to get a tremendous amount of hiss on
the broadcast band...regular AM radio frequencies.  Is this normal or
should it be better.  Reception is really crappy on BCB and noisy.

Am I doing something wrong?
--
Chris Altwegg                    |  [e-mail]
Pinpoint Direct Marketing Mgmt.  |  206-523-6477 (voice)
6001 NE 61st. St.                |  206-523-6559 (fax)
Seattle, WA 98115                |  206-522-8099 (home)


From [e-mail] Wed Oct 30 06:55:01 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Steve Work)
Subject: Re: AOR 8000 and Broadcast Band?
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Chris Altwegg ([e-mail]) wrote:
: I just got an AOR 8000, and while I'm pretty happy with the radio and
: all it's features, my radio seems to get a tremendous amount of hiss on
: the broadcast band...regular AM radio frequencies.  Is this normal or
: should it be better.  Reception is really crappy on BCB and noisy.

Remember, the AR8000 has an internal ferrite bar antenna which is used
for the AM broadcast band, actually, it is used for anything you tune to
which is below 2Mhz.  I might be stating the obvious, but with this type
of antenna, you need to rotate the radio until you get the best
reception.


From [e-mail] Wed Oct 30 06:55:02 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Michael Schuster)
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Subject: Re: AOR 8000 and Broadcast Band?
Date: 26 Oct 1996 07:57:32 -0400
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In article <[e-mail]>,
Chris Altwegg  <[e-mail]> wrote:
>I just got an AOR 8000, and while I'm pretty happy with the radio and
>all it's features, my radio seems to get a tremendous amount of hiss on
>the broadcast band...regular AM radio frequencies.  Is this normal or
>should it be better.  Reception is really crappy on BCB and noisy.
>
>Am I doing something wrong?

No. This is normal. There is limited real estate inside for parts
placement, and the medium wave rod rod antenna ended up too close to the
CPU, whose noise it picks up.

--
Mike Schuster           |       [e-mail]
[e-mail]      |       [e-mail]


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From: [e-mail] (Sid James)
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Chris Altwegg <[e-mail]> wrote:

>Am I doing something wrong?
>--
No chris I dont think so.
I was disappointed as well, the Specially made ferrite rod antenna
for medium wave reception, is quite bluntly a waste of time.
I think its a case of ... if you want am reception (broadcast band)
buy a specific radio.. the ar8000 is great for civil
air/mil/police/utilities/cellular and of course the computer control


I think the icon r10 (i think thats the name) which is out soon and
does the same as the 8000 will give it a run for its money

Sid



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From: [e-mail] (Steve Work)
Subject: Re: AOR 8000 and Broadcast Band?
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Sid James ([e-mail]) wrote:
: I think its a case of ... if you want am reception (broadcast band)
: buy a specific radio.. the ar8000 is great for civil
: air/mil/police/utilities/cellular and of course the computer control

Just get a GE Superradio III for about 1/10 the cost of the AR8000.  No
one really gets a scanner to listen to the AM broadcast band, do they?


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From: [e-mail] (Tomcat305)
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Date: 26 Oct 1996 19:04:38 -0400
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I listen to AM Band all the time!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  As a matter of
Fact thats all I listen too!!!!!!!  Maybe you dont like AM but there are
thousands of people that love AM, I dont know what I would do with out
it!!!!!!!!  Sorry for being mad but, dont dissssssss AM Mode!!!!  All of
you people that like AM speak out!!!! AM is the Best


From [e-mail] Wed Oct 30 06:55:05 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Steve Work)
Subject: Re: AOR 8000 and Broadcast Band?
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Tomcat305 ([e-mail]) wrote:
: I listen to AM Band all the time!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  As a matter of
: Fact thats all I listen too!!!!!!!  Maybe you dont like AM but there are
: thousands of people that love AM, I dont know what I would do with out
: it!!!!!!!!  Sorry for being mad but, dont dissssssss AM Mode!!!!  All of
: you people that like AM speak out!!!! AM is the Best

Come on!  All I was saying is that if you like AM, you normally don't go
buy a scanner to pick it up.  I didn't say it was wrong to listen to AM,
it's just that most people use a plain old AM radio to pick it up.
Lighten up!


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From: [e-mail] (William A Charette)
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[e-mail] (Michael Schuster) writes:

>In article <[e-mail]>,
>Chris Altwegg  <[e-mail]> wrote:
>>I just got an AOR 8000, and while I'm pretty happy with the radio and
>>all it's features, my radio seems to get a tremendous amount of hiss on
>>the broadcast band...regular AM radio frequencies.  Is this normal or
>>should it be better.  Reception is really crappy on BCB and noisy.
>>
>>Am I doing something wrong?

>No. This is normal. There is limited real estate inside for parts
>placement, and the medium wave rod rod antenna ended up too close to the
>CPU, whose noise it picks up.


Is there anyway to increase it's AM radio pickup capabilities? I want one
of these honey's, and I love driving around at night trying to pick up
far away a.m. stations.  I live in Minneapolis and regularily get 670
a.m. from Chicago, WMAQ from Denver and also something on 1100, 1110, and
1160.

I'd love to be able to use the scanner to scan these channels instead of
hitting the buttons on my radio when it gets staticky.

-Bill



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From: [e-mail] (Jon Weaver)
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Subject: AOR 8000 or Yupiteru 7100
Date: 28 Oct 1996 14:59:10 GMT
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I am just about to buy a Yupiteru 7100 scanner, and I am convinced that
this is the right move, but I have just discovered that the AOR 8000 is
only about 60 UK pounds more than the 7100.

Does anyone feel that there are enough features on the 8000 to justify the
extra money, or would I be better off sticking with the Yupiteru.

Any thoughts/information would be appreciated

Regards

Jon


From [e-mail] Wed Oct 30 06:55:08 1996
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From: Rich Wells <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: AOR 8000 or Yupiteru 7100
Date: Mon, 28 Oct 1996 12:34:06 -0500
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Jon,
   The MVT and AOR are really two different beasts. One concentrates
on features(AOR) and the other on receiver performance(MVT).
   The AOR has a LOT more features and controllability. This comes at
a price though...a user's manual comparable to some catalogs! ;-) The
bank/channel configuration is nice, twenty search ranges with lots
of lockout frequencies(500?), alpha-tagging and twin VFOs. The draw-
backs of the AOR seem to be it's construction...cheap case, top-
mounted buttons that are starting to come off and keypad lettering
that starts to disappear!
   The MVT is a GREAT receiver with great audio quality and strength.
It has a lot fewer features than the AOR though making it easier to
program tho. It has 1000 channels but only ten banks compared to the
20 banks in the AOR and ten search limits. Biggest drawbacks for the
MVT are a non-programmable two-second delay while scanning and the
ability to scan a maximum of four banks. The construction of the MVT
is rock solid and receiver performance is the best I have come across
in a hand-held. Except for my R-1, my MVT gets used a lot to listen
on commercial aeronautical frequencies since it is tops for AM signal
quality and sensitivity.
   Personally, my MVT gets a lot more use than my AOR. Of course
that's probably not an unbiased statement since I can just pick up
the AOR at any time. I didn't choose to own one over the other!
   Interesting tho...when I bought mine the price difference was
about $60 US which is about $90 UK right? Maybe you're getting a
better deal on the AOR?
   Good luck!

Strong signals,
Rich Wells
>>> Please direct e-mail to [e-mail]! <<<
N2MCA
Owner : Pro-34/43/60/26/2006/2042 BC-3000/9000 AR-8000 MVT-7100 R-1
Former Owner : Pro-51 BCT-7 BC-8500
North Carolina editor
The Scanner Club
http://www.enter.net/~jheller/scanclub.html


Jon Weaver wrote:
> I am just about to buy a Yupiteru 7100 scanner, and I am convinced that
> this is the right move, but I have just discovered that the AOR 8000 is
> only about 60 UK pounds more than the 7100.
> Does anyone feel that there are enough features on the 8000 to justify the
> extra money, or would I be better off sticking with the Yupiteru.


From [e-mail] Wed Oct 30 06:55:09 1996
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From: Bill Beekman <[e-mail]>
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Subject: aor 8000 problems with computer link
Date: Tue, 29 Oct 1996 11:35:34 -0500
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I was wondering if anyone has had problems using the computer link cable
for the AOR 8000?  I hooked it up and set everything up.  The process of
dumping the data to the pc got about 1/2 way done then froze.  Now the
connection will not work..  Any suggestions?  Are the driver chips on
the connector prone to going bad?


From [e-mail] Wed Oct 30 06:55:10 1996
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From: Harry Stuver <[e-mail]>
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Date: Tue, 29 Oct 1996 20:37:53 -0800
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Bill Beekman wrote:
>
> I was wondering if anyone has had problems using the computer link cable
> for the AOR 8000?  I hooked it up and set everything up.  The process of
> dumping the data to the pc got about 1/2 way done then froze.  Now the
> connection will not work..  Any suggestions?  Are the driver chips on
> the connector prone to going bad?

If the freeze stops at the same channel every time. You need to delete
the channel it stopped on from the 8K keypad. I think this happens
from data not being completely deleted when editting channels from
the keypad. I now delete the channel from the keypad then add the new
channel.
Hope this is the problem . If not e-mail me with details of your set-up.
Also you can subscribe to the AR8000 list and some one should be able
to help.
***************
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put "subscribe" in body of message (no quotes)
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send to: [e-mail]
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         OR try
http://radio.rpmdp.com/ar8000-list.html

******************
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Harry kd6nhn
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From: [e-mail] (CLopez0407)
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Subject: AOR 8000 Recommendation
Date: 25 Oct 1996 18:04:22 -0400
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I am interested in purchasing an AOR 8000. I have an old PRO-2004 but want
something faster and newer. My question: Is the 8K worth the money and how
does it compare to other similiar scanners? Thnks.


From [e-mail] Wed Oct 30 06:55:12 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Steve Work)
Subject: Re: AR 8000 Software
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gunner ([e-mail]) wrote:
: What is MS Access?

A database program, it has nothing in itself to do with scanners, but it
might be useful as a means of storing and categorizing a list of frequencies.



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From: Dantin <[e-mail]>
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Date: Mon, 21 Oct 1996 09:23:58 -0500
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gunner wrote:
>
> What is MS Access?

The Microsoft Access database program that is included on Microsoft
Office, or available seperately.


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From: [e-mail] (Daniel Ayers)
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Date: 28 Oct 1996 11:10:54 GMT
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: For some fresh AR8000 software, watch out for CHANNEL COMMANDER V2.00
: soon to be released. Written for WINDOWS 3.1 and above.

I'll look out for it, however as I said I'd prefer non-Windows software.
I've never seen a Windows interface add anything to a scanner program
(although I wouldn't mind seeing a counter-example).

: BTW: Daniel, It's good to see a Kiwi poster - not many about - where
: are you? I used to live in Titirangi, NW Auckland.

I'm in Christchurch.

Daniel.

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From [e-mail] Wed Oct 30 06:55:14 1996
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Subject: AR1500 v AR1000
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Is the AOR ar1500 better than the ar1000? Why?

How much is a 1500 worth secondhand?

Please reply by Email...


From [e-mail] Wed Oct 30 06:55:15 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Douglas E. Mitton)
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Just today I found the circuit schematic on the WEB for a simple 2
transistor RS232 level translator circuit.  I want to get it to work
on a simpler Apple port and am looking for interface details for the
factory installed PC interface option.

1) How would I obtain a service manual for this radio?

2) Could some one, who has a service manual, post some details on the
   actual biasing components on the Tx and Rx input pins?  I want to
   determine if the 2 transistor circuit will work on my Apple as it
   doesn't have all the current sourcing pins of the PC model.

Thanks in advance!

   ----------------------------------
   Doug Mitton
    * In Brockville, Ontario, Canada
      (City of the Thousand Islands!)
   EMail: [e-mail]
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A few questions:

1) Is it base or handheld?  If it's a base, is it the successor to the
AR3000?

2) How much is it?

3) How does it compare to the AR8000 in performance.   It was given a
"lower" number, does this imply anything in relation to the 8000?


From [e-mail] Wed Oct 30 06:55:17 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Mike Harpe)
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I should have used this as a followup...sorry for the dupe...


                        First Impressions
                The AOR AR-7000 Scanning Receiver
                Copyright (c) 1996 Michael E. Harpe

I got to spend about 3 hours with an AR-7000 at the Monitoring Times
Convention in Atlanta from 10/18-10/20.  What follows is my first impression
of the unit based on my playing with it.  I had no manual and folks from
Grove knew nothing about the unit and brought it along anyway.  Thanks, Bob!

The AR-7000 is yet another "DC-to-daylight" receiver built around DSP (Digital
Signal Processing) technology.  The unit description provided in the previous
article was correct so I won't repeat it here...

I sat down at the unit and was immediately impressed with the sparse, yet
functional control panel.  The user interface is the LCD, a keypad, a four key
"joystick" arrow keypad and a detented tuning knob.  The user interacts with
the unit by selecting different functions on the keypad.  Menus are presented
to the user for scan and search programming.  The menus are reminiscent of
BIOS setup menus found in most PCs.  The interface is fairly intuitive.  I was
able to set up scan and search programs after only a few minutes of
experiments.  The unit can store eight different scan programs and eight
different search programs.  This makes finding new frequencies a breeze.

The unit's operation will take some getting used to.  The squelch is set by
selecting a function key marked SQL and rotating the one knob.  Other
parameters like IF bandwidth, modulation mode, filter width and volume are
all set with softkeys and the one knob.  Curiously, volume is set by holding
down either a raise or lower key marked volume.  Entering a frequency into one
of the dual VFO memories is accomplished by pushing FREQ and entering the
frequency on the keypad.  The knob does tune the VFO memories as expected.
I would prefer a separate knob for the squelch.

One nice feature of search is that the unit displays signal strength as a
moving
histogram that shows strength relative to the squelch threshold.  I found this
very useful.  You must hit SQL to adjust the squelch threshold and hit ENTER
to keep the selected setting.  I kept making bad entries because of all the
function selection I was having to do.  This feature does eliminate the proble
m
of not hearing something because the squelch is set too high.

The filters were quite sharp and served to quiet noise down very well.  I can'
t
comment too much on performance other than to say that the unit did eveything
I asked of it.  We were located directly across the street from Hartsfield
Airport and I heard HTs being used by ground crews quite clearly.

800 MHz performance seemed OK.  It received everything we wanted.

HF performance seemed OK.  I don't know what kind of antenna the unit was
connected to so I can't comment on the performance.  We received WWV on 10 MHz
with about an S5 indication.  Tuning around on HF is awkward because of the
detented knob.  The detented knob is a bad design feature and should be
replaced with an optical knob in the production unit.  Any radio that is
used on HF needs a very smooth control.

Overall, I liked the unit.  It was next to an ICOM R-8500 and I got a chance
for a little side-by-side comparison.  One thing that was really obvious was
that the ICOM has much better audio.  The AR-7000 audio is a bit tinny for
my taste.  The AR-7000 user interface is superior to the ICOM's.  I felt
the ICOM was too obscure and required too much time with the manual.  On the
other hand, the AR-7000 requires a lot of keypad work to set up some things.
Lack of a separate squelch control is not good.

Mike Harpe, N4PLE
Jeffersonville, IN


From [e-mail] Wed Oct 30 06:55:18 1996
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From: [e-mail] (NR3O, Chris Smith)
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Subject: Re: AR8000 interface
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In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] says..
.
>
>Anyone got the plans to build an interface for the AR8000
>know its a max 232 jobby and some caps.......
>just need pin info (max232 and ar8000) thanks
>Sid
>
see http://www.primenet.com/~baron/aorintfc.html.  I did the mod for the AR
2700 to get myself a Scout serial port and built the MAX232-based level
convertor to get it connected to the PC.  Supposedly, the AR8000 has the same
serial interface as the 2700.  See WJE's homepage
(http://www.mv.com/users/wje/aor.html) for 2700 as you will also find there th
e
8000 pinouts (the Scout jack mod makes it easier to get to the serial lines--i
f
you use the standard jack inside the battery compartment to get at it, you wil
l
need to make-up a flat flex cable--his page has thast info as well.

Good luck!

Chris Smith ([e-mail])



From [e-mail] Wed Oct 30 06:55:19 1996
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Hello
I have built the interface for the ar8000 and it works a treat
on my laptop.... but as soon as i connect it to my Normal pc
the display on the ar8000 disappears... as if something is shorting
out. Has anyone come across this before. The circuit must be
ok otherwise it wouldnt work on the laptop (presumably )

Any clever dicks out there, please put me out of my misery

Sid




From [e-mail] Wed Oct 30 06:55:20 1996
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Sid James ([e-mail]) wrote:
: Hello
: I have built the interface for the ar8000 and it works a treat
: on my laptop.... but as soon as i connect it to my Normal pc
: the display on the ar8000 disappears... as if something is shorting
: out. Has anyone come across this before. The circuit must be
: ok otherwise it wouldnt work on the laptop (presumably )
:
: Any clever dicks out there, please put me out of my misery
:
: Sid
:
Could be a ground loop.  If you have an isolation transformer available,
plug the desktop into it and plug it into the wall.  Disconnect all
external devices that may be connected the computer and to the wall (i.e.
printer, modem, etc.).  It will probably be simpler to unplug them from
the wall rather than from the computer, but either will do.  Make sure the
monitor is receiving its power from
the computer or the isolation transformer.  If you have an internal modem,
disconnect the phone cord from it.  If every thing works,
then probably it's a ground loop. If it doesn't work with an isolation
transformer, then it's likely due to improper signal/voltage from the
desktop's I/O port.  If you have the proper software and loopback plugs
you can check the signals, but not the voltages.  You would need an
o-scope to do that; it's usually simpler to swap in a new I/O card.  If it
is a ground loop, then you have to trace down the leak, which could be in
the radio, desktop or interface.

Mike


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On Mon, 21 Oct 1996 19:25:32 GMT, [e-mail] (Dan
Morgan) wrote:

-The Email address you gave me is not good. Please give me a correct
-one. I get the response that scanware.com is not found.

same thing here scanware.com ? not on the www
Yo hablo espa±ol ( muy mal )
I speak English .
Mais je parle mieux Franτais !


From [e-mail] Wed Oct 30 06:55:22 1996
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 -=> Quoting Pat Chaney to All <=-

 >It pisses me off that all these experts expect these poor, minimum
 >wage slobs to be able to answer a question about DTMF decoder chips.
 >If you need one of those things, your ass better have a catalog number
 >ready when you enter the store...otherwise youre simply a moron
 >looking for something to complain about.  95% of Radio Shack customers
 >need a battery, alarm clock, or phone thingy...not anything in the 27x
 >series.
 PC> If it's any consolation things are no different with RS here in
 PC> England. I agree with you that it isn't the fault of the sales staff
 PC> themselves, but of the company policies towards pay, training, and so
 PC> on. That's what people are really complaining about, but they (perhaps
 PC> naturally) direct their criticisms towards more visible targets.

        Radio Shack has the skinflintiest attitude of any company I
        know of. They're still pulling that trademark tactic of theirs
        of manufacturing and selling products that are incompatible
        with products of other manufacturers. Today I needed a 1/8"
        stereo-to-mono plug adapter to use on a Sony headset for a
        Pro-29 scanner. When I tried the adapter, the volume coming
        through the earpieces was drastically lower than normal, as
        though something inside the adapter was broken and nulling the
        connection. The guy at RS told me that there's one millimetre
        difference in the length of Sony plugs and RS ones. Just
        enough to make the two brands incompatible and forcing you
        to buy an RS headset for the RS plug. He wouldn't even take
        the plug back after that, and it was already opened and stapled
        shut when he had sold it to me. They've made their fortune with a
        nickel-and-dime attitude like that. It's almost a disgrace for
        a corporation their size to cultivate that kind of image.

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From [e-mail] Wed Oct 30 06:55:23 1996
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DARKLY BRIGHT wrote:
>
>  -=> Quoting Pat Chaney to All <=-
>
>  >It pisses me off that all these experts expect these poor, minimum
>  >wage slobs to be able to answer a question about DTMF decoder chips.
>  >If you need one of those things, your ass better have a catalog number
>  >ready when you enter the store...otherwise youre simply a moron
>  >looking for something to complain about.  95% of Radio Shack customers
>  >need a battery, alarm clock, or phone thingy...not anything in the 27x
>  >series.
>  PC> If it's any consolation things are no different with RS here in
>  PC> England. I agree with you that it isn't the fault of the sales staff
>  PC> themselves, but of the company policies towards pay, training, and so
>  PC> on. That's what people are really complaining about, but they (perhaps
>  PC> naturally) direct their criticisms towards more visible targets.
>
>         Radio Shack has the skinflintiest attitude of any company I
>         know of. They're still pulling that trademark tactic of theirs
>         of manufacturing and selling products that are incompatible
>         with products of other manufacturers. Today I needed a 1/8"
>         stereo-to-mono plug adapter to use on a Sony headset for a
>         Pro-29 scanner. When I tried the adapter, the volume coming
>         through the earpieces was drastically lower than normal, as
>         though something inside the adapter was broken and nulling the
>         connection. The guy at RS told me that there's one millimetre
>         difference in the length of Sony plugs and RS ones. Just
>         enough to make the two brands incompatible and forcing you
>         to buy an RS headset for the RS plug. He wouldn't even take
>         the plug back after that, and it was already opened and stapled
>         shut when he had sold it to me. They've made their fortune with a
>         nickel-and-dime attitude like that. It's almost a disgrace for
>         a corporation their size to cultivate that kind of image.
>




I just bought one of their softpacks ($9.99 cheepo) for a scanner and
when I ask the salesman if he had any in stock he went back and got one.
After ringing it up I noticed that it was a return and it was stapled
shut with a business card turned backwards and the catalog number was
wrote on it. I took it but if it had of been a piece of electronic
equipment I would have told him to stick it. If something is returned
they box it up and stick it right back on the shelf. Man I wish Walmart
would start stocking conectors, resitors, and capacitors........then the
Shack would be gone!


From [e-mail] Wed Oct 30 06:55:24 1996
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    connection. The guy at RS told me that there's one millimetre
>        difference in the length of Sony plugs and RS ones. Just
>        enough to make the two brands incompatible and forcing you


Your problem here is SONY!  THEY make everything special for there
equipment!  Every buy anything like a Sony Discman and try to get a
replacement adapter for it?  How about $40- $90 for a stupid adapter
that you could get at RadioShack for $12-$20


From [e-mail] Wed Oct 30 06:55:25 1996
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Dan <[e-mail]> wrote:

>I just bought one of their softpacks ($9.99 cheepo) for a scanner and
>when I ask the salesman if he had any in stock he went back and got one.
>After ringing it up I noticed that it was a return and it was stapled
>shut with a business card turned backwards and the catalog number was
>wrote on it. I took it but if it had of been a piece of electronic
>equipment I would have told him to stick it. If something is returned
>they box it up and stick it right back on the shelf. Man I wish Walmart
>would start stocking conectors, resitors, and capacitors........then the
>Shack would be gone!


You don't think Walmat re-package's and sells returns you are deadly
wrong.  Do you have any idea how much stuff would cost if the returns
were not resold!!!!!  Walmart just has the proper re-packaging
equipment in the stock room to make it look new!  Remember that!



Chris










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>
>I just bought one of their softpacks ($9.99 cheepo) for a scanner and
>when I ask the salesman if he had any in stock he went back and got one.
>After ringing it up I noticed that it was a return and it was stapled
>shut with a business card turned backwards and the catalog number was
>wrote on it. I took it but if it had of been a piece of electronic
>equipment I would have told him to stick it. If something is returned
>they box it up and stick it right back on the shelf. Man I wish Walmart
>would start stocking conectors, resitors, and capacitors........then the
>Shack would be gone!

Could it have been a situation where the salesman had opened the package
for the softpack for a previous customer, to see if it fit his unit?
Could it have been that it didn't fit, and the packaging was damaged, so
it had to have a new "header" stapled on it when it was put back?  Could
this entire scenario have taken place because the salesman was gracious
enough to allow the previous customer to try it in the store so he
wouldn't have to bring it all the way back if it didn't work?  Or, could
it have been that the customer bought it, took it out to his car, tried it
and found it didn't fit and brought it back in?  Perhaps the customer (who
in this case would have to be called a "customer-droid,") tore the
packaging up so that a new header had to be fashioned for it?  I'll would
venture to say that if YOU had brought the item back in the above
situation, and the salesman said he couldn't refund it because the
packaging was destroyed, you would have screamed "The thing is BRAND NEW!
There is NOTHING wrong with it!"  Then the salesman would have made the
refund, put a new header on it, and the next customer would have come in
and screamed "This thing is USED!  There MUST be something wrong with it!"

There would be a lot of people complaining here if they had waltzed into a
RS, asked to try the softpack to see if it would fit, but were refused the
opportunity because the salesman said "No...it will damage the packaging,
and if it doesn't fit I will have to put a new header on it.  Putting a
new header on it will make future customers upset."  I can hear it
now..."Darn salesdroids won't let you open up a package to try something
out!  They are idiots!"

Have any of you ever tried on a pair of trousers or shoes, found that they
did not fit, and had the clerk put them back on the shelf?  (That's why
they have fitting rooms in stores.)  Have you or your wife
(husband...don't want to be sexist here!!!) taken some item of clothing
home and returned it?   How about a new car?  Do you think the 100 or so
miles on the odometer are put on by the guy driving it from the factory to
the transport truck?  How about the book in the book store?  Has anyone
leafed through the pages before you?

For what it's worth, I have been trading at my local RS since 1978, with
the same manager (gotta be a record!!) and when I buy a new scanner I have
him put it on the display shelf 3-4 days.  Even though few scanners don't
work out of the box, I like to have mine "burnt in" before I get it home.
It often has a scratch or two from the "customer-droids" that don't know
how to handle equipment, but I don't mind.  Could you consider that a
"used" scanner?  I don't know...you make the call.

The reply to this post will no doubt be a cry that ALL RS stores simply
repackage ALL returns and sell them as new.  "I saw it happen before my
own eyes!"  "I bought a new stereo system and it had holes drilled in the
case and the speakers were blown!"  "I bought a new scanner and there was
only a brick in the box!"  To those folks, I say simply don't go to RS
anymore.

I agree that if I purchased a radio (or numerous other types of equipment,
items,) and it was obviously used and scratched, I would be upset...but a
softpack in a package with a restapled header???






From [e-mail] Wed Oct 30 06:55:27 1996
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In <54vuqn$[e-mail]> [e-mail] writes:
>For what it's worth, I have been trading at my local RS since 1978,
with
>the same manager (gotta be a record!!) and when I buy a new scanner I
have >him put it on the display shelf 3-4 days.  Even though few
scanners don't
>work out of the box, I like to have mine "burnt in" before I get it
home.
>It often has a scratch or two from the "customer-droids" that don't
know
>how to handle equipment, but I don't mind.  Could you consider that a
>"used" scanner?  I don't know...you make the call.

I'm just curious how this works. You buy a scanner from a manager
you've known for 18 years and then you have him set it up in the store
for several days so it can "burn in". Then, after several customers
have fiddled with the knobs and handled it, you return to pick it up
and take it home with scratches and all. Did I get that right? If so,
when you buy a car, do you do the same? I'd just like to know more
about this thought process.

Thanks,
Steve S.
KAF8111


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m. mattson wrote:
>
> >I'm just curious how this works. You buy a scanner from a manager
> >you've known for 18 years and then you have him set it up in the store
> >for several days so it can "burn in". Then, after several customers
> >have fiddled with the knobs and handled it, you return to pick it up
> >and take it home with scratches and all. Did I get that right? If so,
> >when you buy a car, do you do the same? I'd just like to know more
> >about this thought process.
>
> Steve,
> In electronics there is something that Andy knows about and you don't.
> It's commonly referred to as "infant failure syndrome".
>
> The essence is this:  with any given electronic component, if it
> survives the first 24 hours of run time, it will probably run the next
> 100,000 hours without failure.  This is not theory, but rather
> statistical probability based on experience.
>
> Therefore:  What Andy is doing is very intelligent
        Why not break it in at your home, instead of having
        many ignorant customers drolling over and on it?


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From: [e-mail] (m. mattson)
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>I'm just curious how this works. You buy a scanner from a manager
>you've known for 18 years and then you have him set it up in the store
>for several days so it can "burn in". Then, after several customers
>have fiddled with the knobs and handled it, you return to pick it up
>and take it home with scratches and all. Did I get that right? If so,
>when you buy a car, do you do the same? I'd just like to know more
>about this thought process.

Steve,
In electronics there is something that Andy knows about and you don't.
It's commonly referred to as "infant failure syndrome".

The essence is this:  with any given electronic component, if it
survives the first 24 hours of run time, it will probably run the next
100,000 hours without failure.  This is not theory, but rather
statistical probability based on experience.

Therefore:  What Andy is doing is very intelligent, and if I wasn't
always so eager to get my hands on a new "toy", I'd do the same.

Mark

The truth as I perceive it to be.
Your perception will be different.




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>       Why not break it in at your home, instead of having
>       many ignorant customers drolling over and on it?

Only Andy can answer that.  I don't claim to know his motives, but he
did indicate he was freindly with the store manager, so I suspect the
units weren't subject to too much abuse.


Mark

The truth as I perceive it to be.
Your perception will be different.




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Porchnoy <[e-mail]> wrote:
>m. mattson wrote:
>>
>> >I'm just curious how this works. You buy a scanner from a manager
>> >you've known for 18 years and then you have him set it up in the store
>> >for several days so it can "burn in". Then, after several customers
>> >have fiddled with the knobs and handled it, you return to pick it up
>> >and take it home with scratches and all. Did I get that right? If so,
>> >when you buy a car, do you do the same? I'd just like to know more
>> >about this thought process.
>>
>> Steve,
>> In electronics there is something that Andy knows about and you don't.
>> It's commonly referred to as "infant failure syndrome".
>>
>> The essence is this:  with any given electronic component, if it
>> survives the first 24 hours of run time, it will probably run the next
>> 100,000 hours without failure.  This is not theory, but rather
>> statistical probability based on experience.
>>
>> Therefore:  What Andy is doing is very intelligent
>       Why not break it in at your home, instead of having
>       many ignorant customers drolling over and on it?


First, not many fool with it for those few days, but it does sit there
and cook. I'd rather take one home that I know will not fail, than to have
to pack it back up and drag it into the store again.  Saves a trip for me.
It's called "economy of motion."

About new cars...I ordered one (a truck) from the chevy dealer.  Had it
built just the way I wanted it.  Got it at the dealer and there was almost
150 miles on it.  No way was the transport truck 150 miles from the
factory, so I assume someone drove it somewhere.  I guess you could call
it a used vehicle then, if you were real picky.  I figure that those 150
miles mean that the thing is road worthy.  Just another thing I won't need
to take back to the store.  The process hasn't failed me yet, so I don't
plan on fooling with success.



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From: [e-mail] (tyler)
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>Need more?
>
>BTW, I am biased.  I am a stockholder in the company...that's also why I
>know about the details of their manufacturing and importing.
>
 Yea, how about telling me what makes a manager put an item that has just been

brought back by the customer as "bad" or "doesn't work"  right back on the
shelf where it was bought in the first place?  Where in the handbook does it
give shitty practices like that?  And don't tell me it doesn't happen, I've
seen it happen right in front of me.  ...tyler






>
>
>
>
>



From [e-mail] Wed Oct 30 06:55:33 1996
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RE<<Radio Shack:  "You've got questions....We'll bug the hell out of
you!">>

I love it! It is so true. But I have one better. Over the summer I had a
problem with a Uniden Scanner, after being on hold with Uniden's Customer
Service for 45 minutes I finially get this droid on the phone. I explain
my problem to him and his reply is " I suggest you bring your BC-3000 over
to Radio Shack". Being a little neive I said, "Oh, that's great... when
did you bring them on board as an authorized service center?" The guy then
says, " There not, but maybe they can show you how to use your
scanner"......... Now I have been scanning for 20 years, what I have is a
design flaw in the production of the Bearcat Scanner, not a miss-use in
it's operation. I then replied: Well, what is some idiot at Radio Shack
gonna do for me? Probably look at me like I have 6 heads. Besides, I
allready spoke with 4 other BC-3000 owners with the same problem.


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From: [e-mail](BAYCITVIDGRP)
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In <54fir2$[e-mail]> [e-mail] writes:
>
>(snip)
>>
>>     My words are chosen with purpose and
>>      continuity of a mood which was evoked
>>      by that writer who began the schtick
>>      I am taking umbrance with.....get it.
>>
>>      bill conduit
>>
>"Umbrance" is not a word.  The correct spelling is "umbrage," and you
>should have ended your paragraph with a question mark, not a period.
>
   Umbrance is.  And your referrent to "get it" needing a question
    mark?....wrong.  I did not intend it as a question.  It stands
    alone...a referrent to "get it"....

   the word is one of my jollies....it means "to wonder about"....

   I posted a definition of words I invented some time ago,
    you must have missed reading it and printing it out and
    saving it.....

    Umbrance is sort of a derivative of the word "umbrage"...

    where is the 'cheek guy"?

    bill


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In <54fvc8$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (tyler) writes:
>
>
>>Need more?
>>
>>BTW, I am biased.  I am a stockholder in the company...that's also
why I
>>know about the details of their manufacturing and importing.
>>
> Yea, how about telling me what makes a manager put an item that has
just been
>brought back by the customer as "bad" or "doesn't work"  right back on
the
>shelf where it was bought in the first place?  Where in the handbook
does it
>give shitty practices like that?  And don't tell me it doesn't happen,
I've
>seen it happen right in front of me.  ...tyler
>
>
     WHAT A CONCEPT...>NO ONE HAS SEEN....

     Tell me a story about how lousy RS is and
     usually the JAPANESE will rush in and begin
     their own Chain of "Tokyo Shack's" all across
     the country...

     Why has RS been allowed to fester so long?

     If you will look carefully you will see stores
     closing all the time.  Especially on West Coast
     States.

     How come someone has not "had a better idea than
     RS" and start the process immediately following
     the next commercial. Question Mark.

     Maybe OFFICE DEPOT or MAX would be a good outlet
     for a new concept based on what RS could not do.
     You put the question mark in place.

     Dream a new view....give the people a new reason
     to let RS die a ominous death....due to a better
     way to merchandise products that give better
     answers.

     RS's motto should be: You have a problem...So Do we.
     You have not left yet."

     Come on America....rethink the RS concept and start
      a new revolution....with great pay and even better
       commissions and med and dent and psych and chiro
       coverage.  With great benefits like: two days off
       concurrently.  In one month.

     There must be an answer to RS which some one can
      begin making money off of.  And on the exit sign
        an addenum says: IF you leave here hating us,
        you get to speak to a real live person who will
        listen to you....for an appointment dial:......

     Just think of RS as an EST'ian concept: working
      there because you are an asshole.  Allow EST to
      be reborn.  In order to get this, you would have
      had to have gotten it before.

      bill conduit

      where is the 'cheek guy?'



From [e-mail] Wed Oct 30 06:55:36 1996
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From: [e-mail] (D Stark)
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In article <54fv3l$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (tyler) wrote:

>Yea, I can't really say anything bad about their antenna selection, except I
>like the way they rate their antenna gain in reception miles.  "Sure, this on
e
>will pick up stations to 120 miles UHF."  What's the effiecency?  What's the
>gain?  What's the bandwidth?

How many consumers who [think] they need a TV antenna would
even know what efficiency, gain, or bandwidth mean?

Their marketing stuff says "up to 120 miles" because that is
the information Joe Couchpotato wants.  He can't understand
anything else.

Now, if the customer is technically inclined, then the more
technical specs should be easily available.  Since I haven't
shopped for a TV antenna lately (we've got cable), I don't
know if that is the case or not.

73 de Dave, NF2G



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From: [e-mail] (D Stark)
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In article <54f7eb$[e-mail]>, [e-mail](BAYCITVIDG
RP) wrote:

>>You shouldn't start a sentence with "and."

>     My words are chosen with purpose and
>      continuity of a mood which was evoked
>      by that writer who began the schtick
>      I am taking umbrance with.....get it.

So how do you explain the above poorly constructed sentence?
If you are attempting to respond in kind to each writer, why
do you end the last clause with a preposition?  The phrase
".....get it." appears to be a question, so where is the
correct punctuation?  Finally, an ellipsis is three dots,
not five.

Don't attempt to flaunt your education unless you have one.



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From: [e-mail] (D Stark)
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In article <54fir2$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] wrote:

>"Umbrance" is not a word.  The correct spelling is "umbrage," and you
>should have ended your paragraph with a question mark, not a period.
>
>
OOOH, I missed that one!  Thanks for catching it.  :-)


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tyler ([e-mail]) wrote:

:  Yea, how about telling me what makes a manager put an item that has just be
en
: brought back by the customer as "bad" or "doesn't work"  right back on the
: shelf where it was bought in the first place?  Where in the handbook does it

: give shitty practices like that?  And don't tell me it doesn't happen, I've
: seen it happen right in front of me.  ...tyler

I hardly every buy stuff from them (other than nickel-and-dime items) for
this very reason.  They sell nothing in sealed boxes, everything is in
something which is easily re-packaged and difficult to tell how many
times has been returned.   Of course there's also the fact that *I* would
probably want to return almost anything I bought there myself.


From [e-mail] Wed Oct 30 06:55:39 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Alan Frisbie)
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Subject: Re: B  Radio Shack salesman plays DUMB !
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In article <54fvc8$[e-mail]>,
[e-mail] (tyler) writes:

> Yea, how about telling me what makes a manager put an item that has just bee
n
> brought back by the customer as "bad" or "doesn't work"  right back on the
> shelf where it was bought in the first place?  Where in the handbook does it

> give shitty practices like that?  And don't tell me it doesn't happen, I've
> seen it happen right in front of me.  ...tyler

It has happened to me twice, two years apart, in the same
store (some of us are slow learners), with the same manager:

        Al Arzabak
        Radio Shack store #01-3691
        109 Plaza Pasadena
        Pasadena, CA 91101

--  Alan E. Frisbie               [e-mail]
--  Flying Disk Systems, Inc.
--  4759 Round Top Drive          [phone] (voice)
--  Los Angeles, CA 90065         [phone] (FAX)


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From: [e-mail] (D Stark)
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In article <54gfjq$[e-mail]>, [e-mail](BAYCITV
IDGRP) wrote:

>     Sniff your own and allow it to quiet you.
>
>     bill

People who "debate" using scatological phrases instead of
reasoned discourse end up keeping John Mackey company in my
killfile.  Bye.



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In <54g5tu$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (D
Stark) writes:
>
>In article <54f7eb$[e-mail]>,
[e-mail](BAYCITVIDGRP) wrote:
>
>>>You shouldn't start a sentence with "and."
>
>>     My words are chosen with purpose and
>>      continuity of a mood which was evoked
>>      by that writer who began the schtick
>>      I am taking umbrance with.....get it.
>
>So how do you explain the above poorly constructed sentence?
>If you are attempting to respond in kind to each writer, why
>do you end the last clause with a preposition?  The phrase
>".....get it." appears to be a question, so where is the
>correct punctuation?  Finally, an ellipsis is three dots,
>not five.
>
>Don't attempt to flaunt your education unless you have one.
>
     Give your brain a rest and stand up fellah....

     Why does there have to be a question mark right "there"?

     I said what I said and you refuse to listen to what I said
     in the sentence I wrote...which i cannot nor someone elses
     see anything wrong with it....get it!

     the ellipsis is your ritual and your anal savings....not mine.
     create your perfect world when you take a crap at your
     expense....quit making like the world evolves due to your
     demand for anal extraction of a system you "remember as" being
     something which when seen in a new way...brings out the
     true anally fixated....

     Sniff your own and allow it to quiet you.

     bill


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From: [e-mail] (Blue dot 9)
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Subject: Re: B  Radio Shack salesman plays DUMB !
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In article <01bbc203$2a902200$[e-mail]>, "David M.
Hitchner" <[e-mail]> writes:

>I go to Radio Shack because they provide things that are difficult to get
>elsewhere and prices can be very reasonable when thing are on sale.  I
>recently picked up a DSP on a manager's close-out table for $27.00.  It
>works great with my scanner.  It cuts out a lot of hiss and high pitched
>whines.  An unexpected benefit was that it almost totally cuts out the
>keyboard beep on my PRO-2006.
>
>

Yeah, I bought that, too.  Couldn't resist, Marked all the way down from
$79.  When I got home I found out that IT SUCKED in most applications.

It does, however, work well with the AM heterodynes.  I think that this
would be better for CBers and DXers.

When I used it to remove the cellular whine it made ppl's voices come in
as if they were talking through a pipe!  The same for distant TXs (better
yet tubular).

The best application I saw on it was the CW section....It would pick out
those little beeps a hell of a lot clearer.

Anyway, the poor salesdroid that sold it to me couldn't even figure out
what the heck a DSP was...I mentioned something like, "Dolby uses the same
type of signal processing for surround sound."

Then he replied to the tune of, "why would you want to make your scanner
surround sound....?"

Let me tell you...complete morons (pronounced MOW--ronz).  I get a kick
out of these guys.  Hell, even my fiancee laughs at them.

I exchanged the unit for something else.

Dave
(Scanner Flatulaire)

BTW, there is a better way to remove the beep completely  off of the 2006,
use a switch if you want to have control over it's state.


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From: [e-mail] (Tommy Willoughby)
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Date: 26 Oct 1996 22:12:33 GMT
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: Steve S.
: KAF8111
  ^^^^^^^     What's this?
--


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Tommy Willoughby wrote:
>
> : Steve S.
> : KAF8111
>   ^^^^^^^     What's this?
> --perhaps an old cb license?

--
E. Scott Sykes
This is Ground Control. . .


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From: [e-mail] (Drew Durigan)
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>Let me tell you...complete morons (pronounced MOW--ronz).  I get a kick
>out of these guys.  Hell, even my fiancee laughs at them.
>
>I exchanged the unit for something else.

Too bad you can't also exchange Sammy Salesdroid for 'something else'...
like a form of intelligent life! <g>

-Drew in Sunny Central Florida-




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From: Dave Dinstett <[e-mail]>
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On Sun, 20 Oct 1996 [e-mail] wrote:

> Barry Burke Jr. wrote:
> >
> > Joe Kearney wrote:
> >
> > > Im completely sick and tired of all this RS employee bashing.  I
> > > worked for RS for two years a while back, and made it up to manager.
> > > Its a completely thankless job from every angle...company/customer.
> > > The pay is lousy if youre not a used car salesman type (not very
> > > condusive to getting the skilled people to stay).
> > >
> > > It pisses me off that all these experts expect these poor, minimum
> > > wage slobs to be able to answer a question about DTMF decoder chips.
> >
> > I've never thought they SHOULD be able to answer those questions.  I have
a problem
> > when they PRETEND to be knowledgeable, when we all know that if they were,
 they'd be a TECH somewhere
> > else.  If a salesman simply helped me find what I needed without the added
 "knowledge" I would be beyond happy.
> >
> > Some of the best RS salespeople I've ever met simply knew their own produc
ts, they didn't claim to
> > be electronic techs or engineers, just salespeople.  Just as I would not a
sk a car salesperson a
> > mechanical question, I don't think an RS person has to be able to answer a
n eletronic one.
> >
> > I like to think of it as Circuit City with a parts department. <g>
> >
> > What really IRKS me, are the ads "We've got ANSWERS",  come on... <G>
> >
> > Barry
>
> I agree with Barry here.
>
> It is not the lack of information that irritates most of us, it is the
> misinformation that is so often given.
>
>

I guess if I went to a Chevy dealer, I wouldn't expect the salesperson to
know about the cars.

Besides, they opened a new RS here in my town. I went and applied because
I figured I had more knowledge about electronics in general (including
DSS -> which they seemed very impressed) than any other ordinary person.
You know, they never called me back. I went in there after they opened,
and some lackey didn't even know what scanner had 800 Mhz. After asking a
few obvious questions, the manager finally came out and told me that
cellular was indeed blocked from all scanners and had been for a few
years. Gee, I thought that was common information...

******************************************************************************

Dave Dinstett
---- --------
 ** Remember! Intel Inside is a warning label! **
______________________________________________________________________________

[e-mail]
[e-mail]

******************************************************************************



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(snip)

>> > I've never thought they SHOULD be able to answer those questions.  I have
 a problem
>> > when they PRETEND to be knowledgeable, when we all know that if they were
, they'd be a TECH somewhere
>> > else.

FWIW, the manager of the RS where I shop is an electrical engineer (and a
good friend.)  During the Korean conflict, he taught radio and radar in
the army.  After the service he worked for Colesman Industries (NOT the
ice chest company) when the company was subcontracted by various
government agencies.  During the Kennedy administration, he was in charge
of monitoring/collecting information gathered during the atmospheric
a-bomb tests.  He was in Hawaii for the tests...rough assignment!

During the Apollo program, the company was contracted to NASA.  He was the
project manager for the star tracking system the astronauts used to
determine their location while they were between the moon and the earth.

There are several circuits designed by him that are in every B-52 bomber.

I've seen all the signed documents and awards with the various president's
signatures that he received for his work.

When NASA quit sending up manned rockets, he got laid off (layed
off???)...anyway...he didn't have a job anymore.  He had a few bucks in
the bank, an engineering degree, and no job...like hundreds of others at
the same time.  He wandered in to the local RS one day, and after a
conversation with the manager, he signed on with the company and has been
with it since 1975.

He plans on retiring in a year or two, and is going to do quite nicely,
thank you very much.  He plunked money into their stock plan and other
company investment deals, and made out like a bandit.

Anyway, here is a case where the manager of the RS store is literally a
rocket scientist!  If you have qestions, he definitely has the answers.

I'm not attempting to fuel any arguments, nor am I trying to prove someone
wrong about anything...just passing on a bit of info about one RS store.

Andy



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Dave Dinstett <[e-mail]> wrote:


>Besides, they opened a new RS here in my town. I went and applied because
>I figured I had more knowledge about electronics in general (including
>DSS -> which they seemed very impressed) than any other ordinary person.
>You know, they never called me back. I went in there after they opened,
>and some lackey didn't even know what scanner had 800 Mhz. After asking a
>few obvious questions, the manager finally came out and told me that
>cellular was indeed blocked from all scanners and had been for a few
>years. Gee, I thought that was common information...

>*****************************************************************************
*

>Dave Dinstett
>---- --------

Dave,
   You never did say why they never called you back.   To be shunned
by Radio Shack of all places...  And you actually had the nerve to
make it public..   Hang your head...     :)

                                        John



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In article <54in5k$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (John Kracke)
writes:

>   You never did say why they never called you back.   To be shunned
>by Radio Shack of all places...

I'll tell you why they never called him back.  Two words.  Job security.
Do you think that middle aged management is willing to compromise their
jobs to some hot shots that can do better?  These guys have mortgages,
automobile financing and check this out...rugrats to feed.

Don't get me wrong, I am not a supporter of crummy service.  I just now
understand that if you have too many qualifications, you get looked over
and over in just about any job.

It's happened to me, and it's probably happened to you elsewhere.

So, if these droids start selling the HTX-202 as GMRS, scoff at them,
report their wrong "Answers (tm)" to a supervisory level (even if its
above the manager)...and then piss 'em off like I did.  Direct the poor
customer out the DOOR! (slam)  (Note: I do not work for RS, that's the
funny part!)

Dave
(Scanner Flatulaire)

Your protection is different than my Trojan
My Trojan is my protection as I relieve.

In Sunnier Southern Texas

Jeers!

69s

the i.e. guy

Do not adjust your behind,
there is a fault-line in it.


(did i miss any?) ;-)


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In article <54in5k$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] says...
>
>Dave Dinstett <[e-mail]> wrote:
>
>
>>Besides, they opened a new RS here in my town. I went and applied because
>>I figured I had more knowledge about electronics in general (including
>>DSS -> which they seemed very impressed) than any other ordinary person.
>>You know, they never called me back. I went in there after they opened,
>>and some lackey didn't even know what scanner had 800 Mhz. After asking a
>>few obvious questions, the manager finally came out and told me that
>>cellular was indeed blocked from all scanners and had been for a few
>>years. Gee, I thought that was common information...
>
>>****************************************************************************
**
>
>>Dave Dinstett
>>---- --------
>
>Dave,
>   You never did say why they never called you back.   To be shunned
>by Radio Shack of all places...  And you actually had the nerve to
>make it public..   Hang your head...     :)
>
THE REASON THEY DIDN'T CALL HIM IS SIMPLY BECAUSE HE KNEW TOO MUCH. har de har

har.  You have to take a test to be a Radio Shack worker and obviously, he
passed.

Tyler




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>So, if these droids start selling the HTX-202 as GMRS, scoff at them,
>report their wrong "Answers (tm)" to a supervisory level (even if its
>above the manager)...and then piss 'em off like I did.  Direct the poor
>customer out the DOOR! (slam)  (Note: I do not work for RS, that's the
>funny part!)

Hmmm...they do that in your area too, huh?

Reminds me of the time I overheard Sammy Salesdroid trying to sell HTX-
202s to a construction foreman because "they have more channels and talk
further than these do."  ("These" being the standard CB walkie-talkies)

License?  What license?  DUH!!!!

"You've got questions, we've got Salesdroids."


-Drew in Sunny Central Florida-



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Drew Durigan wrote:
>
> >So, if these droids start selling the HTX-202 as GMRS, scoff at them,
> >report their wrong "Answers (tm)" to a supervisory level (even if its
> >above the manager)...and then piss 'em off like I did.  Direct the poor
> >customer out the DOOR! (slam)  (Note: I do not work for RS, that's the
> >funny part!)
>
> Hmmm...they do that in your area too, huh?
>
> Reminds me of the time I overheard Sammy Salesdroid trying to sell HTX-
> 202s to a construction foreman because "they have more channels and talk
> further than these do."  ("These" being the standard CB walkie-talkies)
>
> License?  What license?  DUH!!!!
>
> "You've got questions, we've got Salesdroids."
>
> -Drew in Sunny Central Florida-

Hey, like they say in the Air Force-If you can't dazzle them with
brilliance, baffle them with bullshit.

ron cain


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From: Brian Varine <[e-mail]>
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Subject: BC200 XLT ---->SOLD
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The BC200 I had posted has been sold, thanks to all who replied!

==============================================================================
Brian R. Varine <[e-mail]>                     Finger for PGP Key
http://www.orst.edu/~varineb                               When in doubt,
Stop Highway Robbery! http://www.motorists.com               -=JAM IT=-





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From: [e-mail] (TristTom)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: BC3000xlt. vs. BC200xlt?
Date: 27 Oct 1996 11:17:54 -0500
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How does the Uniden BC3000xlt compare in reception quality to the
BC200xlt?  Any comments on which model is more worth the money would be
appreicated. thanks!



________________________________________________________
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213.845.0626

"When I tried to tell my story, they cut me off, to take
a break. I sat silent 5 commercials-I had nothing left
to say." - R.E.M.
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From: Brian Varine <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: BC3000xlt. vs. BC200xlt?
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On 27 Oct 1996, TristTom wrote:

> How does the Uniden BC3000xlt compare in reception quality to the
> BC200xlt?  Any comments on which model is more worth the money would be
> appreicated. thanks!

Geez, the 3000XLT is a power scanner. It's got the Twin Turbo system that
scans VHF at an amazing 100CPS. Full coverage except cell (25MHz-1.3GHz).
It's a great portable. The BC200XLT is a great scanner but doesn't
compare to the 3000XLT. If you have the cash, the 3000XLT.


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From: [e-mail] (David W. Murphy)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: RE: BC8500 can it receive cell phone freq?
Date: Sat, 26 Oct 1996 17:48:01 GMT
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Can anyone tell me if the BC8500 be opened up for 860-900 Mz. Please
email me
[e-mail]

Thannks





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From: [e-mail] (Bob Parnass, AJ9S)
Newsgroups: alt.radio.scanner,rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Bc9000xlt mod's
Date: 29 Oct 1996 01:17:15 GMT
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In article <[e-mail]>,
Uncle Billy  <[e-mail]> wrote:

        >Need Help,
        >Looking for any xlt9000 modifications....

From the FAQ:

See "The Uniden Bearcat BC9000XLT," by Bob Parnass, AJ9S, in
Monitoring Times, March 1995.   For  tips  and  modification
information, see my column in June 1996 Monitoring Times.

Reprints of articles from Monitoring Times are available
for $2.00 each plus a self-addressed stamped envelope from:

      Grove Enterprises, 300 S. Highway 64 West,  Brasstown,
      NC  28902.   For  a  free catalog, call [phone].
      Telephone (orders only): [phone].

Note: I don't get any part of the $2.00.
--
==============================================================================
Copyright 1996, Bob Parnass, AJ9S                        [e-mail]

        Locate & identify transmitters in your area with RadioMap(tm)


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From: John <[e-mail]>
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Bob,


    Thank's alot I really appreciate the info.  Modifications for that
radio are hard to find.  I will look at the article as soon as I have
the chance, I wish I could read it online too.  $2.00 seems like a fair
price to me.

   Thanks again
   John



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From: [e-mail] (CLopez0407)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: BC9000XLT vs PRO2006 Recommendations Wanted
Date: 25 Oct 1996 18:02:47 -0400
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I own a PRO 2006 and a friend has the 9000. The PRO 2006, overall, is just
a better radio; even my friend agrees--get the PRO 2006


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From: "Pack Man" <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Bearcat BC 20/20 HELP.
Date: 22 Oct 1996 03:29:29 GMT
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Recently acquired a Bearcat BC 20/20 at a garage sale.  Please send
information re.

(1) purpose of the A/B switch
(2) number of channels in properly working unit
(3) any operational "tips & tricks" you want to share.

Thanks a million!


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From: Eric Oyen <[e-mail]>
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Well Folks,
It *WAS* quiet around here for a bit, and now the flamers are back...

Why can't you guys jusr accept the fact the Bill has done things that
you can't even approach? Why must you besmirch his good name over some
trivial point? In fact, WHY DON'T YOU USE YOUR HEADS FOR THING BESIDES A
COLLECTIVE LOT OF HATRACK??????

Get with it, guys.

Consider the foolowing pionts:

1. Bill Cheek is a published author with some technical background in
electronics engineering,
2. Mr. Cheek has demostrated a "working knowledge" of electronic gear
(in general, and scanners (in particular),
3. He has also demonstrated a resolve almost as strong as a
steal/titanium alloy mix,
4, he doesn't need to prove what he has already demonstrated that he
KNOWS.

Now, admittedly, he has "seemed" a little off base when dealing with the
ignorant masses, but do you blame him? I think not. How else can a
person respond to repeated stupidity over a long period of time?

So, without further adue, lets all get back to the business at hand,
scanners....


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From: "John..Mackey..KA0SSF" <[e-mail]>
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[e-mail] wrote:

> You always say "WE".  What does that mean.

For a typical example, see the attached message.  Several of "us" were
questioning Bill.


> You sound like a war protester just protesting
> because you have nothing better to do.

You sound like you have the disease of "Allagator Mouth/Canary Bird
Ass".

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From - Wed Jul 24 18:23:37 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Scott Gustafson)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Scanner FAQ from Bill Cheek
Date: Wed, 24 Jul 1996 15:37:57 -0700
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In article <31f02173.65768442@192.188.72.19>, [e-mail] (Bill Cheek) wrot
e:
>That's about it up to the minute.  More news at 11.  Petey-boy will be
>wanting to get on the pot next.  Then Duffster will want his turn.
>They both just LOVE to sit after me.

In article
<[e-mail]>,
<[e-mail]> wrote:
>Why don't you you just answer YES or NO...Are you a Engineer ?
>I don't care to hear that you have X number of years in Engineering
>environments so that qualifies you as one in your own mind.
>YES or NO ???

After reading the above post by Bill Cheek, I would be amazed if he has any
Degree from any University whatsoever. Anyone with an ounce of education
would not resort to name calling and the behavior that you exhibit here in
this forum. If Bill, you in fact have a degree, please send me the name of
the University from which it was awarded. But as I said, I would really be
amazed if you had a B.S., M.S, M.E., or above.

scott

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From: [e-mail] (Flatted5th)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Bill Cheek is an IDIOT was:Re: RG 59\U
Date: 26 Oct 1996 22:03:38 -0400
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Yes it appears as if cheeks has backed off at last. But then  everyone has
known all along that he was the problem and that if he would just quit
posting , the problem would stop. And sure enough.


From [e-mail] Wed Oct 30 06:56:07 1996
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From: [e-mail]
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Flatted5th wrote:
>
> Yes it appears as if cheeks has backed off at last. But then  everyone has
> known all along that he was the problem and that if he would just quit
> posting , the problem would stop. And sure enough.

But PjB,

you go and shoot your mouth off.  You need to up
your medication.


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From: [e-mail](George L. Vetterle)
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Subject: Re: Bill Cheek is an IDIOT was:Re: RG 59\U
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In <54uftq$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Flatted5th)
writes:
>
>Yes it appears as if cheeks has backed off at last. But then  everyone
has
>known all along that he was the problem and that if he would just quit
>posting , the problem would stop. And sure enough.

Now what can we do to make YOU go away?
--
--
George Vetterle
[e-mail]

"I don't mind if you don't like my manners.  I don't like them myself.
They're pretty bad.  I grieve over them on long winter evenings."-Phillip
Marlowe, THE BIG SLEEP (WB, 1946)



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From: "Douglas Gates" <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: Bill Cheek is an IDIOT was:Re: RG 59\U
Date: 29 Oct 1996 20:05:51 GMT
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Why don't you dickheads stop criticizing and get to the fucking point of
this group?

Doug




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From: [e-mail] (Richard Kendrick)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: BILL CHEEK! WHY IS HE SO DESPISED?
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[e-mail](BAYCITVIDGRP) wrote:

>In <[e-mail]> Wes Padilla <[e-mail]> writes:

>>
>>Why does everyone hate him?

[ eloquent, detailed, and true explaination snipped ]

In a word, jealousy. He has done what they can't and instead of looking inward
into themselves, they lash out at the person who not deliberately or directly,
pointed out their shortcomings.

Richard Kendrick CET WA7TWI           |
Amateur Radio Extra Class             |  Do not adjust your mind, there
QRP #4129/G-QRP #8591/MI-QRP #M-1412  |  is a fault in reality.
Mesa, AZ  email: [e-mail]  |



From [e-mail] Wed Oct 30 06:56:11 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Bill Cheek)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: BILL CHEEK! WHY IS HE SO DESPISED?
Date: Mon, 28 Oct 1996 17:31:37 GMT
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[e-mail] (tyler) wrote:

>Good googily moogily Bill!!!  Could you possibly kiss his ass any more?  Yea,

>there is no argument that he is intelligent, it's his big

> <ego>

>that pisses everyone off.

You just gotta keep it going, don't you?

Okay....here's bone for you to gnaw:  if, using 100% of your intellect,
*you* could do ten percent of what I can do using 1% of mine, you'd be
perceived as having an "ego", too.

Look deeper, lad.  It's not an "ego".  It's a reality check that smacks you
betwixt the eyeballs and gives you an irregular heartbeat and nasal polyps.

Tell ya what, son, you get off the video games and the TV set; put the
play-toys and frivolous pursuits aside;  and spend the next 30 years
learning everything you possibly can learn; doing everything you can
possibly do; going everywhere within reach and then some; shoot for the
stars.....say Aldeberan and Deneb....miss by a country mile...and hit the
moon instead.

You'll feel your cheerios, too.  And you won't give a wad of belly-button
gunk whether anyone likes it or not.  Because it won't matter one teeny
weeny iota.  It never does matter when you got 'em and the other feller's
got 'em to get.  His sniveling is only a matter over which to giggle a bit
and then move on...........

That's a tough old bone to chew, ain't it?   :-)

Bill Cheek
Scannist Extraordinaire
Rocket Scientist/Cosmic Leaper



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From: [e-mail](BAYCITVIDGRP)
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In <552d9m$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (tyler) writes:
>
>
>>>Why does everyone hate him?
>>
>(snip...snip)
>
>>      That's it WES.  They just have no conscience.  No sense of
one's
>>      history as the Cheeks Guy has.  they resent him....they resent
>>      anyone who defends him.  Or understands him.
>>
>>      Or gets along with him because he is an intelligent man.
>>
>>      Don't get too worked up about it.  the Cheeks Guy ain't.
>>
>>      bill conduit
>>      etc. guy
>
>Good googily moogily Bill!!!  Could you possibly kiss his ass any
more?  Yea,
>there is no argument that he is intelligent, it's his big
>
>
>>      tyler....enjoyed your depiction-symbol of the Cheek Guy.
         I don't think I kissed his anus in what I said.  I just
         take an objective approach to his past postings and the
         fun he has in answering some of the more dubious dolts
         who inhibit the group and come to these conclusions.

         you are a creative guy....you seem to know the definition
         of most words used and are offeneded by the IDIOT of
          MACKEY....but gosh, you fail to learn from the postings
         what is going on ahead of you.

          The Cheek Guy don't take anyone's shit....he stands up
          and take umbrage at any who would disparage his name or
          his "place" in the world he's grown up on....and in.

          You seem to have an EGO fantasy too seeing as how some
           of your postings have been egregariously pronounced.
          So who is calling the IDIOT MACKEY black.  The Pot and
         the Kettle analogy.

           If you cannot see the derision for what it is attached
           to the Cheek Guy for all that it is based on, then the
            "whoooosh" passed you by.

           It's a generational thing....learn about it.  For a man
            his age he's not all that wrong in his statements...sure
            he uses words like POOP and words which were used back in
            the 50's....but that is his history.

            A lot of you should really think about taking an EST
             class from a authorized ESTian graduate....it's not the
             same as when in vogue, but it would be a start.

            I kiss no one's anus...you should know that by now.

            Anti-anus kisser,
             bill conduit

>
>
>
>
>
>
>



From [e-mail] Wed Oct 30 06:56:14 1996
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From: Bill Eitner <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: BILL CHEEK! WHY IS HE SO DESPISED?
Date: Mon, 28 Oct 1996 14:07:07 -0800
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tyler wrote:
>
> >>Why does everyone hate him?
> >
> (snip...snip)
>
> >      That's it WES.  They just have no conscience.  No sense of one's
> >      history as the Cheeks Guy has.  they resent him....they resent
> >      anyone who defends him.  Or understands him.
> >
> >      Or gets along with him because he is an intelligent man.
> >
> >      Don't get too worked up about it.  the Cheeks Guy ain't.
> >
> >      bill conduit
> >      etc. guy
>
> Good googily moogily Bill!!!  Could you possibly kiss his ass any more?  Yea
,
> there is no argument that he is intelligent, it's his big
>
> eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee             gggg                           ooooo
> e                           g       g                      o       o
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> e                       g                              o               o
> e                      g                              o                 o
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> e                            g         g                   o       o
> eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee              ggggggg                      ooooooo
>
> that pisses everyone off.
>
> tyler


        I love the graphic...BILL


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From: [e-mail] (Flatted5th)
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Bill Cheek wrote:

>You just gotta keep it going, don't you?

>Okay....here's bone for you to gnaw:  if, using 100% of your >intellect,
>*you* could do ten percent of what I can do using 1% of >mine, you'd be
>perceived as having an "ego", too.

You gotta be shittin me cheeks. After being told for six months to let go
of it and it would end, you finally do, it ends, and then you got the nuts
to start whinin' about someone else keeping it going?  HAHAHA
Thats rich.  Try another tack, Goofy


From [e-mail] Wed Oct 30 06:56:16 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Glen Quarnstrom)
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[e-mail] (Flatted5th) wrote:

>Bill Cheek wrote:
>
>>You just gotta keep it going, don't you?
>
>>Okay....here's bone for you to gnaw:  if, using 100% of your >intellect,
>>*you* could do ten percent of what I can do using 1% of >mine, you'd be
>>perceived as having an "ego", too.
>
>You gotta be shittin me cheeks. After being told for six months to let go
>of it and it would end, you finally do, it ends, and then you got the nuts
>to start whinin' about someone else keeping it going?  HAHAHA
>Thats rich.  Try another tack, Goofy

Excuse me for taking Cheek's side here (and you don't know how much it
pains me to do this...) but he DID let it go, and you and others tried
to start it up again.

As for Bill, of course, he did snap at the bait you dimwits offered,
so he's not off the hook on that score.

The whole lot of you should newgroup alt.fan.bill-cheek, then you all
could take the flame wars there.  I might even join in myself, if
things got interesting.

I've said this before, and I'll say it again.  If you don't want flame
wars, DON'T RESPOND TO FLAMES!  It's that simple.  Unfortunately,
simple people can't handle this solution.

And yes, Cheek, this goes for you, too.  If you STOP responding to the
baiters, they'll go away eventually.  Of course, you know that, so you
respond, knowing that the wars will erupt anew, and you can continue
to get your desired attention, and can pretend to be the victim rather
than the perpetrator.
--
[e-mail]

"General statements are as valid as specific ones." ...Bill Cheek 8/11/95


From [e-mail] Wed Oct 30 06:56:16 1996
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From: [e-mail](BAYCITVIDGRP)
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Date: 28 Oct 1996 17:41:15 GMT
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In <552k4i$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Richard
Kendrick) writes:
>
>[e-mail](BAYCITVIDGRP) wrote:
>
>>In <[e-mail]> Wes Padilla <[e-mail]>
writes:
>
>>>
>>>Why does everyone hate him?
>
>[ eloquent, detailed, and true explaination snipped ]
>
>In a word, jealousy. He has done what they can't and instead of
looking inward
>into themselves, they lash out at the person who not deliberately or
directly,
>pointed out their shortcomings.
>
>Richard Kendrick CET WA7TWI           |
>Amateur Radio Extra Class             |  Do not adjust your mind,
there
>QRP #4129/G-QRP #8591/MI-QRP #M-1412  |  is a fault in reality.
>Mesa, AZ  email: [e-mail]  |
>
    I think i have an insight into the Cheek Guy...it's because
      he don't take their shit that is the answer to this whole
      flame thing.  He states his standing and they cannot accept
      that it works.  He has put their non-knowing standing at risk
      and to engage him is a risk and a horror which they must
discredit as to be able to "take over the group" without the Cheek
       Guy.

       Seems they may have succeeded, but now they have nothing to
       contribute....reality is at work.

       bill conduit
       I never met the Cheek Guy, but then I did.



From [e-mail] Wed Oct 30 06:56:17 1996
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From: [e-mail](George L. Vetterle)
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In <553ehn$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Flatted5th)
writes:
>

>You gotta be shittin me cheeks. After being told for six months to let
go
>of it and it would end, you finally do, it ends, and then you got the
nuts
>to start whinin' about someone else keeping it going?  HAHAHA
>Thats rich.  Try another tack, Goofy

Mr. Empty fifth:

If you had any huevos yourself, you'd quit hiding behind your AOL
screen name.  If you want to talk the talk, sign your name.  Maybe you
only have the huevos of a gallina?

--
--
George Vetterle
[e-mail]

"I don't mind if you don't like my manners.  I don't like them myself.
They're pretty bad.  I grieve over them on long winter evenings."-Phillip
Marlowe, THE BIG SLEEP (WB, 1946)



From [e-mail] Wed Oct 30 06:56:19 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Glen Quarnstrom)
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[e-mail] (Bill Cheek) wrote:

>[e-mail] (tyler) wrote:
>
>>Good googily moogily Bill!!!  Could you possibly kiss his ass any more?  Yea
,
>>there is no argument that he is intelligent, it's his big
>
>> <ego>
>
>>that pisses everyone off.
>
>You just gotta keep it going, don't you?

Look who's talking.

>Okay....here's bone for you to gnaw:  if, using 100% of your intellect,
>*you* could do ten percent of what I can do using 1% of mine, you'd be
>perceived as having an "ego", too.

But that wouldn't make it any more attractive than when you do it.

>Look deeper, lad.  It's not an "ego".  It's a reality check that smacks you
>betwixt the eyeballs and gives you an irregular heartbeat and nasal polyps.

In your dreams, perhaps.

<irrelevant braggadocio deleted>

>That's a tough old bone to chew, ain't it?   :-)

Tough?  Bill, you're about as easy a nut to crack as I've ever
encountered.  You're so predictable we can almost set our watches by
your outbursts of self-promotion, insults, and name-calling.  It'd be
pathetic if it weren't so amusing.  It's sort of like watching some
caged gorilla beating his chest and roaring, and it's cheaper than
going to the zoo.

--
[e-mail]

"General statements are as valid as specific ones." ...Bill Cheek 8/11/95


From [e-mail] Wed Oct 30 06:56:20 1996
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Richard Kendrick wrote:

> In a word, jealousy. He has done what they can't and instead of looking inwa
rd
> into themselves, they lash out at the person who not deliberately or directl
y,
> pointed out their shortcomings.

What a bunch of shit.

For being an extra class ham & having your commercial license, you
sure don't know much.



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From: John Mackey---KA0SSF <[e-mail]>
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Bill Cheek wrote:

> Okay....here's bone for you to gnaw:  if, using 100% of your intellect,
> *you* could do ten percent of what I can do using 1% of mine, you'd be
> perceived as having an "ego", too.

These are the types of things I was after you about Bill, & what my
warnings to you were regarding.  You appear to NOT want a truce.

I'ld advise you to DROP this, now.


> Look deeper, lad.  It's not an "ego".  It's a reality check that smacks you
> betwixt the eyeballs and gives you an irregular heartbeat and nasal polyps.

Yes it IS your ego Bill.  Your last sentence was VERY egotistical &
arrogant.


> Tell ya what, son, you get off the video games and the TV set; put the
> play-toys and frivolous pursuits aside;  and spend the next 30 years
> learning everything you possibly can learn; doing everything you can

To bad you don't have anything to show for your 30 years.



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From: [e-mail](Robert Harris )
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Does anyone know of or have any plans for building a small crystal
transmitter?  Any help would be appreciated.

Robert Harris
[e-mail]


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From: [e-mail] (Tomcat305)
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Subject: Re: Buying A Scanner
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Look into the AOR's  like the AR5000 or AR3000 or AR8000...BTW Are you a
beginner, if you are don't even think of buying this scanner, or you will
be lost!!!!


From [e-mail] Wed Oct 30 06:56:23 1996
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In article <550mah$[e-mail]>,
        [e-mail] (Tomcat305) wrote:

>Look into the AOR's  like the AR5000 or AR3000 or AR8000...BTW Are you a
>beginner, if you are don't even think of buying this scanner, or you will
>be lost!!!!

Although perhaps a touch condescending towards our friends who are newer to
the hobby, this advice does nonetheless bring up a valid and often
overlooked point.  The AR scanners listed above are near top of the line and
quite fully-featured, particularly the AR8000.

Regardless of the endeavor, fist-time entrants to a given hobby who jump in
full throttle and get the most sophisticated tools of that hobby,
unfortunately find themselve quickly disenchanted by the complexity or
learning required.  That's why parents who hunt may likely start their kid
out on a simple and relatively harmless BB gun and not a 30-06 double barrel
shotgun which will scare the crap out of the kid upon first firing.

I would encourage anyone with the money to get an AR8000, no questions asked
because you will eventually get a lot out of it.  However, I can recommend
many units that present a much more straightforward and enjoyable experience
to the newer scannist who may not yet feel entirely at home with using a
scanner.

Enjoy regardless.

Mike


From [e-mail] Wed Oct 30 06:56:25 1996
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Mike Mayer <[e-mail]> wrote:

>                           That's why parents who hunt may likely start their
 kid
>out on a simple and relatively harmless BB gun and not a 30-06 double barrel
>shotgun which will scare the crap out of the kid upon first firing.

Please forgive a Limey for pointing this out to a Yank, but a 30-06
(thirty ought six) is not a shot gun, double barreled or not! 'Tiz a
30 calibre rifle (or carbine) m'dear.

However, with that minor, but necessary correction in the interests of
being a pedantic old sod, I do tend to agree with the spirit of the
meaning .

Any which way, this has nowt to do with scanning but being nosey, I
just had to interfere.


>I would encourage anyone with the money to get an AR8000, no questions asked

 You do have good taste though....  :>)


Humour (?) mode off. I too recommend the AR8000 even for a newcommer
to the hobby. My recommendations are based on the following
assumptions:-

1) If, after a few weeks of trying out the hobby, you get well and
truely hooked, you have one of the most versatile hand portable radios
around - you will not regret buying it. If you do get hooked (highly
probable) you could regret buying an inferior radio

On the other hand...

2) if you give up the hobby 'cos it doesn't turn you on, you still
have a desirable piece of kit that will sell readily.

OK, so there are other radios about that are easier to get going
straight away. But they won't do what the AR8000 will!

Stuff it on "Novice Mode" take a couple of days out to get to grips
with the hand book and the world is your platform. Every minute with
the handbook will reward you with hours of listening pleasure.

>because you will eventually get a lot out of it.  However, I can recommend
>many units that present a much more straightforward and enjoyable experience
>to the newer scannist who may not yet feel entirely at home with using a
>scanner.

>Enjoy regardless.

>Mike

Donald Gray
Free Agent V1.0 -
Eudora Lite V1.5.4
Please do not short the output or severe damage will be caused to the fuse.
         (On a Sony power supply leaflet!)



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From: [e-mail] (Brent Corbin)
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Karl Dahlquist ([e-mail]) wrote:


: Karl Dahlquist <[e-mail]> wrote in article
: <01bbbf8c$600b4aa0$4342aace@default>...
: > First heard
: >
: > 470.6125 LA County Central Dispatch

: 860.7625 LAFD Command
: 123.025 Aircraft Media and Fire

Also check: 170.000 169.200 123.975 154.400

Has anyone heard any support comms in the ham bands?  I did a quick pass
through 2m, 220 & 440 and didn't hear anything (though it's entirely
conceivable they're on simplex).  I got a little curious when I heard a
representative for Malibu saying something like "We really don't know
what the current status is for some of the shelters - our cable went
out a few minutes ago"   8*( 8*(


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From: [e-mail] (Brent Corbin)
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Subject: Re: Calabasas / Malibu Fire!!!
Date: 23 Oct 1996 01:08:22 GMT
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MEM&GWM ([e-mail]) wrote:
: [e-mail] (Brent Corbin) wrote:

: >Karl Dahlquist ([e-mail]) wrote:


: >: Karl Dahlquist <[e-mail]> wrote in article
: >: <01bbbf8c$600b4aa0$4342aace@default>...
: >: > First heard
: >: >
: >: > 470.6125 LA County Central Dispatch

: >: 860.7625 LAFD Command
: >: 123.025 Aircraft Media and Fire

: >Also check: 170.000 169.200 123.975 154.400

: U.S.Forest Service Air VICTOR very busy today on 119.975

Also a fair amount of traffic on white 1:  154.280


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From: Ken Koller <[e-mail]>
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ROn 22 Oct 1996, Karl Dahlquist wrote:

> Karl Dahlquist <[e-mail]> wrote in article
> > 470.6125 LA County Central Dispatch
> 860.7625 LAFD Command
> 123.025 Aircraft Media and Fire

170.000 Air Tankers Primary
169.200 Air Tankers Secondary
154.340 Fire Operations
154.430 Fire Operations
154.400 Fire Operations

Tankers and Helos should be out there till at least Friday.




Ken Koller

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From: [e-mail] (MEM&GWM)
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Subject: Re: Calabasas / Malibu Fire!!!
Date: Thu, 24 Oct 1996 03:47:40 GMT
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Ken Koller <[e-mail]> wrote:

>ROn 22 Oct 1996, Karl Dahlquist wrote:

>> Karl Dahlquist <[e-mail]> wrote in article
>> > 470.6125 LA County Central Dispatch
>> 860.7625 LAFD Command
>> 123.025 Aircraft Media and Fire

>170.000 Air Tankers Primary
>169.200 Air Tankers Secondary
>154.340 Fire Operations
>154.430 Fire Operations
>154.400 Fire Operations

>Tankers and Helos should be out there till at least Friday.



>
>Ken Koller

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Hi Ken,

I also heard the Erickson SkyCrane twice today on 123.3000. I don't
know if this is the HeliTanker, Operations kept referring to. It was
really neat to finally hear from the SkyCrane.

Other reported SkyCrane frequencies are: 123.1500, 123.2500, 123.3000,
123.3500, 123.500. Enjoy!

Good Scanning makes good friends,

Mike




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From: Ken Koller <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: Calabasas / Malibu Fire!!!
Date: Sat, 26 Oct 1996 09:46:18 -0700
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On Thu, 24 Oct 1996, MEM&GWM wrote:

> Ken Koller <[e-mail]> wrote:
>
> >ROn 22 Oct 1996, Karl Dahlquist wrote:
>
> >> Karl Dahlquist <[e-mail]> wrote in article
> >> > 470.6125 LA County Central Dispatch
> >> 860.7625 LAFD Command
> >> 123.025 Aircraft Media and Fire
>
> >170.000 Air Tankers Primary
> >169.200 Air Tankers Secondary
> >154.340 Fire Operations
> >154.430 Fire Operations
> >154.400 Fire Operations

> I also heard the Erickson SkyCrane twice today on 123.3000. I don't
> know if this is the HeliTanker, Operations kept referring to. It was
> really neat to finally hear from the SkyCrane.
>
> Other reported SkyCrane frequencies are: 123.1500, 123.2500, 123.3000,
> 123.3500, 123.500. Enjoy!

123.500 was what they were using during the fire. They're back at Van
Nuys now, only the county ships are out on the fire now. That skycrane
costs a fortune to fly, they have a $2,000 reposistion fee for just
starting the engine and it's something like $8,000 an hour to fly.


Ken Koller

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From [e-mail] Wed Oct 30 06:56:31 1996
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From: CS <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: Can Uniden MR8100 becomputer controlled?
Date: Sat, 19 Oct 1996 19:28:26 -0700
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Michael Alexander wrote:
>
> In article <54b49h$[e-mail]>, [e-mail]
> (Carl Hodder) wrote:
>
> > Can a Uniden MR-8100 be computered controlled like other computer controll
ed
> > scanners (FRG-9600, IC-R7000, AR-2700, AR-3000A, AR-8000 etc)?
>
> No.
Maybe, but I don't think so. Check with the scancat people.

> >
> > What can it do under computer control?
> >
> > Can you program cell frequencies in 30kHz or 12.5kHz steps? (ie, if you
> > program channel 1 with 888.830 will it round down to 888.825).
> >
30k steps

> > What opions are out on this scanner? Seems not to be popular.

The CHP reject scanner has most of the usual features: manual, l/o,
direct freq' entry, 10 banks of 10 memory channels, backlit LCD display,
unique design. No "options".

> >
> > Does Scancat gold support this radio and can it search for frequencies
> > under computer control?
They (Scancat) offered a version that did interface with the 8100.
"Control" may be too grand a term for what it will do.
> >
> > Does it use a standard serial cable and terminal program or a special
> > cable and special computer program to talk to it?
>
Standard cable. Simple DOS program to upload and edit freq' data files.
It's much faster to edit these files with Windows Notepad as they are
just plain text.

In short, you don't want one. Even at that $99. price I saw. Good luck.
> --
> Michael Alexander
> [e-mail]

                                 Matt D.

--
First they came for the hackers. But I never did anything
    illegal with my computer, so I didn't speak up.
Then they came for the pornographers. But I thought there was
    too much smut on the Internet anyway, so I didn't speak up.
Then they came for the anonymous remailers. But a lot of nasty
    stuff gets sent from anon.penet.fi, so I didn't speak up.
Then they came for the encryption users. But I could never
    figure out how to work PGP anyway, so I didn't speak up.
Then they came for me. And by that time there was no one left
    to speak up.
                   It can happen folks
                                                 (SIOP-ESI)


From [e-mail] Wed Oct 30 06:56:33 1996
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From: Ken Wyatt <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: Can Uniden MR8100 becomputer controlled?
Date: Mon, 21 Oct 1996 10:47:23 -0700
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Carl Hodder wrote:
>
> Can a Uniden MR-8100 be computered controlled like other computer controlled
> scanners (FRG-9600, IC-R7000, AR-2700, AR-3000A, AR-8000 etc)?
>
> What can it do under computer control?

        Not in the normal sense.  It has a standard RS-232 port (0-5V)
        which may be used to read out or load in channel information.
        You can not control the radio functions using this port. Once
        the channels are loaded, it becomes a conventional scanner.
        This -is- very convenient if you do much travel.  I keep several
        "scan lists" in my HP 100LX palmtop and can upload different
        channel schemes as I go.


>
> Can you program cell frequencies in 30kHz or 12.5kHz steps? (ie, if you
> program channel 1 with 888.830 will it round down to 888.825).

        I don't really know the answer to this.  I haven't bothered to
        listen!

>
> What opions are out on this scanner? Seems not to be popular.

        The greatest problem is one of paging transmitter overload.
        This occurs only within 500 - 1000 feet of a transmitter, so
        your reception is mostly OK.  The other minor problem is that
        it is made to mount to a police-style mounting bracket and will
        not mount under the dash. I'll post an old review later today.

        The paging interference can be reduced greatly with a 10 dB
        attenuator in the antenna line.

>
> Does Scancat gold support this radio and can it search for frequencies
> under computer control?

        Nope.

>
> Does it use a standard serial cable and terminal program or a special
> cable and special computer program to talk to it?
>       It uses a standard DB-9 serial cable (you -may- need a null-        mo
dem adapter). The DOS software is custom from Uniden.  There
        is also a Windows-based package being developed.  Preliminary
        (trial) versions are available on CompuServe or AOL under the
        name PSCAN.EXE.  This works a lot better than the DOS version.

        I own three of these radios now and despite the shortcomings,
        I believe these are one of the niftiest scanners around.

        Ken (WA6TTY)


From [e-mail] Wed Oct 30 06:56:33 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Douglas E. Mitton)
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Subject: Canada and a 2.5mm Stereo Jack/Plug?
Date: Fri, 25 Oct 1996 21:55:39 GMT
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I'm going to ask another basic (?) question.

I've been trying to add the "scout port" mod to my AR2700, I can't
find a jack small enough to fit inside the package.  All I've been
able to locate to date is the Radio S. 3.5mm items and they are about
twice too large for the recommended location ... above the 12vdc jack
inline with the bottom row of keys.  They won't fit any where else
either.

Any one have any ideas on a Canadian source of these things ... a
chain type store would be nice too!  :-)

Thanks in advance!!!

   ----------------------------------
   Doug Mitton
    * In Brockville, Ontario, Canada
      (City of the Thousand Islands!)
   EMail: [e-mail]
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From [e-mail] Wed Oct 30 06:56:35 1996
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Subject: Re: Canada and a 2.5mm Stereo Jack/Plug?
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To: "Douglas E. Mitton" <[e-mail]>

Douglas E. Mitton wrote:
>
> I'm going to ask another basic (?) question.
>
> I've been trying to add the "scout port" mod to my AR2700, I can't
> find a jack small enough to fit inside the package.  All I've been
> able to locate to date is the Radio S. 3.5mm items and they are about
> twice too large for the recommended location ... above the 12vdc jack
> inline with the bottom row of keys.  They won't fit any where else
> either.
>
> Any one have any ideas on a Canadian source of these things ... a
> chain type store would be nice too!  :-)
>
> Thanks in advance!!!


Doug,

About a year ago I purchased submini 2.5mm mono jacks at Radio
Shack(Radio Shack P/N 274-292).  They are closed circuit jacks, so you
have to modify the jack to be open circuit.

I don't have an AR2700, but have put several jacks on my AR8000.  The
real estate inside the AR8K is very "tight".  None-the-less, with
some *very careful* planning, you can install jacks on either side of
the AR8K towards the bottom (below the power jack level), on the left
side about the height of the <SRCH> key, or on the top of the AR8K
between the "DIAL" and "VOL" silkscreen.  There may be room to install a
jack on top of the AR8K between the BNC and "SQ" silkscreen also.  Be
sure to check both halves of your 2700 for possible interference.

Like the Opto Scout manual suggests, I would recommend using only an
exacto knife to create the holes.  Unless you feel like drilling out
some components in your 2700. :>(  As always, any mods you perform are
at *your own risk* and will void your warranty.  If you don't feel
comfortable with performing the mods, I would look for a competent local
tech that someone recommends.

Hope that this helps,
Scott


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From: [e-mail] (T. Mooney)
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Subject: CANADIAN SKI PATROL!
Date: Wed, 23 Oct 1996 02:25:36 GMT
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if anyone has these freq's could they please post them! thanks..




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From: [e-mail] (Diback)
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Subject: Canaidian mil. Freqs.
Date: 22 Oct 1996 13:05:48 -0400
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for all of you Canadians out there, here are a few hf. freqs.  I don't
know how much help they'll be to scanner listeners, but if you've got a
shortwave radio with SSB capabiletie's, it's better than nothing
11.249mhz  USB
6.746mhz   USB
13.257mhz  USB
hope these Help!


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In <54krqq$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (John Wilkerson)
writes:
>
>Jerry Stack ([e-mail]) wrote:
>: In listening to the local L.A. Co. Sherriff's frequency, I have
noticed a
>: kind of "chuffing"sound on transmissions by the dispatcher. It has a

>: regular rhythm. Last theory.... the transmitting station could be
broken.
>
      "chuff-chuff"   "chuff-ammmmm-chuff"  ad infinitum for a minute
       and then again for another minute after eyes are opened and
       people who came to see what the noise was about have gone on
       their way.....   "chuff-chuff".....

       Could this be the Sound of 4000 or more RS sales people being
       led in their daily "chuff" to help them keep their minds on the
       program...not on the poverty-like monies they earn for being so
       damn "in-Need" of this job.

       You have heard of TM.   Radio Shackers do the "chuff-chuff"
       to get their heads on straight and lined up to be good at
      what they do each day.

       bill conduit


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Subject: Re: Cause of  "chuffing" sound
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John Wilkerson wrote:
>
> Jerry Stack ([e-mail]) wrote:
> : In listening to the local L.A. Co. Sherriff's frequency, I have noticed a
> : kind of "chuffing"sound on transmissions by the dispatcher. It has a
> : regular rhythm. There is no similar sound coming from the mobile units.
> : The frequency is in the 480 mhz range. Other transmissions in this
> : spectrum don't have the strange sound.
>
> : I've noticed this on several scanners. Anyone have an idea what causes
> : this?
>
>    Is this area around hilly terrain?  Possibly could be a "loss of
> phase".  Perhaps..... only perhaps, that agency could be using more than
> one transmitter antenna.  Those multiple antennas could be slightly "out
> of phase" with one another.  There may be a slight transmission delay
> between antenna sites which could cause this sound.
> Sometimes around hills or mountains, they need more than one antenna to
> ensure proper coverage in their areas.


I'm on the flatland here, but there are, I believe, multiple transmitters and
antennas. Someone else suggested
that the problem could be that these xmtrs are slightly off frequency from one
 another. For some reason it only
seems to occur on one freq, however, not on other freqs of the same department
 which presumably, broadcast from
the same sites.

Thanks for the information.




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From: [e-mail] (Darrell A. Larose)
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Subject: Re: Cell frequecies?
Date: 24 Oct 1996 07:19:35 GMT
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Alexander Gordon Soon ([e-mail]) writes:
> Just kinda puzzled what frequencies cells go at. I thought they were in
> the 900 mhz. But then someone told me they were in the 800's. And then
> another told me its in the 400's. So what is it? Does it depend on the
> area? I live in Vanouver Canada, so if anyone knows let me know.
>
In Canada the frequency allocations for cell starts at 869.040/824.040 Mhz
up to 895.980/850.980 Mhz (Base/Mobile) these are spaced at 0.030 Mhz steps.

This corresponds to the gap in all RatShack scanners. Although monitoring
cell phones is legal in Canada, Radio Shack only imports USA model scanners
into Canada.




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Darrell A. Larose ([e-mail]) wrote:

: In Canada the frequency allocations for cell starts at 869.040/824.040 Mhz
: up to 895.980/850.980 Mhz (Base/Mobile) these are spaced at 0.030 Mhz steps.

: This corresponds to the gap in all RatShack scanners. Although monitoring
: cell phones is legal in Canada, Radio Shack only imports USA model scanners
: into Canada.

Many scanners pick up 870Mhz North American cell frequencies while tuned
to the 900Mhz range due to "images", this was discussed here a couple
days ago.  In Europe, the cellphones are truly in the in 900Mhz range,
however.


From [e-mail] Wed Oct 30 06:56:42 1996
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From: [e-mail] (F. Barry Mulligan)
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Subject: Re: Cell frequecies?
Date: 25 Oct 1996 14:16:22 GMT
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> ... what frequencies cells go at ... I live in Vanouver Canada ...
In the US, the allocation is:

From the  FAF - Frequently Asked Frequencies
      on  ftp://oak.oakland.edu
      as  /pub/hamradio/docs/misc/scanner.faf


Cellular Telephone                                          [22.902]

          Chs        Freqs (base)        System      Use

        800-832    869.040 - 870.000     A - RCC     voice
          1-312    870.030 - 879.360     A - RCC     voice
        313-333    879.390 - 879.990     A - RCC     data
        334-354    880.020 - 880.620     B - Telco   data
        355-666    880.650 - 889.980     B - Telco   voice
        667-716    890.010 - 891.480     A - RCC     voice
        717-799    891.510 - 893.970     B - Telco   voice

        Transmissions are FM. Channels are 30 kHz apart. Mobiles
    transmit 45 MHz below the base (824.040-848.970) and are usually
    repeated by the base.
        Channels 800-832 are also identified as Chs 991-1023.


From [e-mail] Wed Oct 30 06:56:44 1996
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From: Jim <[e-mail]>
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F. Barry Mulligan wrote:
 >
 > > ... what frequencies cells go at ... I live in Vanouver Canada ...
 > In the US, the allocation is:
 >
 > From the  FAF - Frequently Asked Frequencies
 >       on  ftp://oak.oakland.edu
 >       as  /pub/hamradio/docs/misc/scanner.faf
 >
 > Cellular Telephone                                          [22.902]
 >
 >           Chs        Freqs (base)        System      Use
 >
 >         800-832    869.040 - 870.000     A - RCC     voice

Correction:
          991-1023    869.040 - 870.000     A - RCC     voice



 >           1-312    870.030 - 879.360     A - RCC     voice
 >         313-333    879.390 - 879.990     A - RCC     data
 >         334-354    880.020 - 880.620     B - Telco   data
 >         355-666    880.650 - 889.980     B - Telco   voice
 >         667-716    890.010 - 891.480     A - RCC     voice
 >         717-799    891.510 - 893.970     B - Telco   voice
 >
 >         Transmissions are FM. Channels are 30 kHz apart. Mobiles
 >     transmit 45 MHz below the base (824.040-848.970) and are usually
 >     repeated by the base.
 >         Channels 800-832 are also identified as Chs 991-1023.

Only one change as shown above. This according to EIA/TIA spec IS-54
Revision B on page 14.

B-band is OK, and, no, I cannot explain the gap for channels 800 through
990.

Regards,

Jim - Former cellular system eng w/ATT WS


From [e-mail] Wed Oct 30 06:56:45 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Douglas E. Mitton)
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Subject: Re: Cell frequecies?
Date: Sat, 26 Oct 1996 13:04:52 GMT
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I use:

Search - 869.04 Mhz to 893.93 Mhz step 30 Khz mode FM
You will find a couple of control frequencies which you can just lock
out.  This is the TX band of 832 channels, I never found activity on
the Rx band (824.04Mhz to 848.97Mhz Same other stuff)

870-880Mhz is Cantel and 880-890 is Bell Mobility.
The one unexpected thing about this is that you can find out the
'quality' of the 2 systems ... more Cantel subscribers complain about
signal quality being bad ... hmmmmm ... maybe thats just because there
are MORE Cantel subscribers ... how about that, insights just by
typing it ...   :-)

[e-mail] (Alexander Gordon Soon) wrote:

>Just kinda puzzled what frequencies cells go at. I thought they were in
>the 900 mhz. But then someone told me they were in the 800's. And then
>another told me its in the 400's. So what is it? Does it depend on the
>area? I live in Vanouver Canada, so if anyone knows let me know.

>Gord. <[e-mail]>

   ----------------------------------
   Doug Mitton
    * In Brockville, Ontario, Canada
      (City of the Thousand Islands!)
   EMail: [e-mail]
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From [e-mail] Wed Oct 30 06:56:46 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Evan Platt)
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The dutch do in fact have older model cell phones in 450 range....
They also have the new digital phones, forgot what they are called,
but they're an abbreviation (Grin>)

[e-mail](Steve S) wrote:

>In <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Steve Work) writes:
><snip>
>
>>  In Europe, the cellphones are truly in the in 900Mhz range,
>>however.
>
>Yes, and all are digital technology. I had a PRO-2030 there for two
>years and got zip in that freq range. However, I did hear some Dutch
>telephone (patches?) in the 450 MHz range. I don't think it was 70 cm
>autopatch but rather an older form of mobile telephone.  Anyone have
>any ideas on this?
>
>Steve S.
>KAF8111



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From: "Bill Inabnett" <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Cell Mod for BC8500 XLT Scanner
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Would sincerely appreciate info on cell mod and other mods for a BC8500XLT
Scanner.

Please email :

                                             [e-mail]


From [e-mail] Wed Oct 30 06:56:47 1996
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From: Joshua Tarplin <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Cell mods for PRO-2026/BC760-XLT
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Xref: news1.epix.net alt.radio.scanner:40681 rec.radio.scanner:68972

Anybody have the cellular modifications for the Realistic PRO-2026
(a/k/a Uniden BC760-XLT)?

Please reply by e-mail to [e-mail].

Thanks!

Joshua


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From: [e-mail] (Clint Bradford)
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Subject: RE: Cellular Phone Monitoring...
Date: Sat, 26 Oct 1996 17:38:00 GMT
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>>>...they were broadcasting, I was just receiving...

It continues to amaze me when idiots admit in public forums that they
break the law.


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From: [e-mail](Steve S)
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Subject: RE: Cellular Phone Monitoring...
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In <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Clint
Bradford) writes:
>
>
>>>>...they were broadcasting, I was just receiving...
>
>It continues to amaze me when idiots admit in public forums that they
>break the law.

You hit it on the head, Clint. How can anyone think cellphones are
considered "BROADCASTING"?  Folks should confer with the dictionary
before using terms with very specific meanings.

Steve S.


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From: [e-mail]
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Subject: Re: Cellular Phone Monitoring...
Date: 28 Oct 1996 05:08:02 GMT
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 Phone wires are private property. The airwaves are not, and never will
be. If you expect to have total privacy during radio communications,
you're not too bright. Making monitoring illegal is the same as passing a
law that says everyone has to wear earplugs when walking down the street
(so they can't hear other people's conversations). The airwaves are a
public place.Don't kid yourself about privacy.


From [e-mail] Wed Oct 30 06:56:52 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Ken Flanagan)
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Subject: Re: Cellular Phone Monitoring...
Date: Mon, 28 Oct 1996 13:57:49 GMT
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[e-mail] wrote:

> Phone wires are private property. The airwaves are not, and never will
>be. If you expect to have total privacy during radio communications,
>you're not too bright. Making monitoring illegal is the same as passing a
>law that says everyone has to wear earplugs when walking down the street
>(so they can't hear other people's conversations). The airwaves are a
>public place.Don't kid yourself about privacy.

Exactly.  That's why here in Canada, we have no laws restricting
monitoring.  Why?  Canada Gazette in Feb. 1989 said it perfectly. "The
radio frequency spectrum is a scarce and vital public resource".
That's why the Radiocommunication Act states this for sections 4 and 9
(these are the sections pertaining to scanners).

4.(1) No person shall, except under and in accordance with a radio
authorization, install, operate, or possess radio apparatus, other
than:
  (b) radio apparatus that is capable only of the reception of
broadcasting and that is not a broadcasting receiving undertaking

9.(1)(b) without lawful excuse, interfere with or obstruct any
radiocommunication.
9.(2) except as prescribed, no person shall intercept and make use, or
intercept and divulge, any radiocommunication, other than
broadcasting, except as permitted by the originator thereof.

In other words:

Scanners and scanning are legal anywhere in Canada.  There are no
restricted frequencies.  A license is not required.  You can't use
what you hear for personal gain or tell anyone what you have heard.

So much for the U.S. being the "land of the free", eh?



From [e-mail] Wed Oct 30 06:56:53 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Kim Helliwell)
Subject: Re: Cellular Phone Monitoring...
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Clint Bradford ([e-mail]) wrote:

: >>>...they were broadcasting, I was just receiving...

: It continues to amaze me when idiots admit in public forums that they
: break the law.

--

I do follow this law, and I agree it's stupid to admit breaking it, but:

IT'S A STUPID LAW!!!!!!!!



From [e-mail] Wed Oct 30 06:56:53 1996
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From: Ron <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Check Out My Scanner URL
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Check out my new Frequency Scanner URL at:

http://www.inlink.com/~rhill/scanner.html

Let me know what you think of it.

See Ya There

Ron



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From [e-mail] Wed Oct 30 06:56:54 1996
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From: Bryan Longacre <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Colorado Springs freqs
Date: Sun, 27 Oct 1996 09:13:36 -0700
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Anyone have Colo Spgs freqs.  I can't seem to get a comprehensive list
of police, state police, EMS, and El Paso County sheriff.  Any help
would be appreciated.  Please no flames.


From [e-mail] Wed Oct 30 06:56:56 1996
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Subject: Re: Colorado Springs freqs
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Bryan Longacre wrote:
>
> Anyone have Colo Spgs freqs.  I can't seem to get a comprehensive list
> of police, state police, EMS, and El Paso County sheriff.  Any help
> would be appreciated.  Please no flames.

Information on Colorado Springs frequencies may be obtained from:

http://ourworld.compuserve.com/Scan_PikesPeak

or

http://www.frii.com/~rmedic/

73, Ken


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From: [e-mail] (Joost)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: COM203 (by Commtel)
Date: Sun, 27 Oct 1996 03:45:13 GMT
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[e-mail] (Jonathan Clough) wrote:

>The Commtel 203 is the same as the PRO-39.

Thanks for your help. Unfortunately, Tandy (Radio Shack) states
something else. Accoring to their reference page (at
http://support.tandy.com/2849.html) they mention the PRO-39 as follows
(under "Features"):

[QUOTED]
This Pro -39 covers the following bands:

30-50 MHz ..... VHF Lo
50-54 MHz..... 6-Meter Ham Band
108-136.975 MHz.....Aircraft (AM)
[/QUOTED]

My Commtel COM203 (manufactured by GRE) offers a frequency range
starting at 68 MHz. So, i.m.h.o., these scanners cannot be *exactly*
the same. Anyone that knows a solution to this?

Anyway, thanks very much for your kind reply, Jonathan!


Greetings,



Joost van Stuyvenberg
Amsterdam, The Netherlands
[e-mail]




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From: [e-mail] (Joost)
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Subject: COM203 (by Commtel)
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Hello,

<Sorry if this question was posed here before; I'm new to this
newsgroup. I also posted it in alt.radio.scanner.>

At Javiation's page (http://www.demon.co.uk/javiation/pro43.html) I
discovered that the PRO-43 will be named COM204 from now on. Is there
also an original or ancient name for my COM203? Its specifications are
more or less similar. These are a.o.:

        200 channels
        68-88, 108-174, 380-512 and 806-960 MHz
        Lockout, Delay, Priority channel, 10 monitor channels
        Search up/downward within predefined limit frequencies
        etc.

I bought this scanner a few weeks ago, and didn't have anything but
fun with it. Except that entering 200 frequencies by hand is a bit
exhausting :-)

Is there anyone that owns this scanner? I'd like to hear your
experience, comments, hints, etc. Make sure you got the type number
right: I'm talking about the Commtel COM203, not the 204.

Best wishes, and thanks in advance,


Joost van Stuyvenberg
Amsterdam, The Netherlands
[e-mail]




From [e-mail] Wed Oct 30 06:56:58 1996
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Subject: Computer interface
Date: Mon, 21 Oct 1996 18:53:22 GMT
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I just purchased a Pro 2035, and I was wondering is there a computer
interface for this model, and if so, what the name of it is, and the
price, I am mainly looking for something to control channel lists with
and so forth. have never been to deep into scanning before, and plan
on getting a little more involved with it
Thanks for any help..
                                    Garry


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From: [e-mail] (Bill Cheek)
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Subject: Re: Computer interface
Date: Tue, 22 Oct 1996 18:08:19 GMT
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[e-mail] wrote:

>I just purchased a Pro 2035, and I was wondering is there a computer
>interface for this model, and if so, what the name of it is, and the
>price, I am mainly looking for something to control channel lists with
>and so forth. have never been to deep into scanning before, and plan
>on getting a little more involved with it

The CE-232 Scanner/Computer Interface will AutoProgram the 2035's 1000-ch
memory banks with not only frequencies, but also custom settings of channel,
mode, delay and lockout.  You can also remotely control the scanner from the
keyboard of the PC.....a definite plus, considering the nasty front panel of
the PRO-2035.

E-Mail me for more details if you like.

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From [e-mail] Wed Oct 30 06:57:01 1996
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From: [e-mail] (F. Barry Mulligan)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Continental Airlines scanner Policy anyone ?
Date: 21 Oct 1996 02:37:38 GMT
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[e-mail] (Pat Chaney) wrote:
> I've seen a web page recently that details the policy of all the major
> airlines on this ...

You may be refering to the file available as:
    ftp://oak.oakland.edu  /pub/hamradio/docs/misc  scan.airline
    CompuServe  Hamnet Lib 2  AIRLNE.TXT
While it includes a number of airlines' policy statements, Continental is
not one.

> ... you can usually use a scanner during the flight ...
Actually, the majority of airlines ban radios of any sort during all phases
of the flight. Delta is a notable (and appreciated) exception.

> I'm sure if you ring them you'll get the answer.
I wouldn't count on it. Continental's Public Affairs dept. was one of several
that failed to reply to the 1995 query.
                                                         /* barry /&


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From: John Kirby <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: Continental Airlines scanner Policy anyone ?
Date: 23 Oct 1996 02:44:37 GMT
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I have used a scanner on Continental flights before. Last March I was
returning from LA and when I took my seat an official looking dude
noticed my AR8000. He had what looked like flight crew insignia on his
lapels. All he asked me was if the radio was capable of transmitting.
I said no and he left me alone. Later in the flight, (somewhere over New
mexico on my way to houston), one of the retarded stewardesses said I
couldn't use it on the plane. I promptly ignored her because the flight
crew is obviously in a much better position to decide if my radio was
appropriate or not. One moral to this story is "try to get a window
seat", if they can't see the scanner then they won't bother you. I had an
isle seat unfortunately.

John Kirby

ps
there is very little to hear inside an efficient Faraday shielding
aircraft.




From [e-mail] Wed Oct 30 06:57:03 1996
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From: [e-mail] (F. Barry Mulligan)
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Subject: Re: Converting PRO-43 to receive 72mhz
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[e-mail] (Dan Arsenault) asked:
> ... if there is mod that I could make to receive 72MHZ.

    Installing a diode at location D3 on the logic (main) board will enable
54-88 MHz on US/Canada models (it's already there on the European version).
Reception will not be ideal, as the front end is tuned for 30-54 MHz, but
should more than meet your needs.
    The procedure is documented in any of the descriptions of the PRO-43
cellular mod. This entails removing diode D4, which may then be moved to the
D3 position.
                                                        /* barry /&


From [e-mail] Wed Oct 30 06:57:03 1996
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From: [e-mail] (tyler)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: cordless phone monitoring
Date: 21 Oct 1996 14:04:22 GMT
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In article <54bne9$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] says...
>
>cordless phones are difficult to monitor unless yhou are right on top of
>them because of their low poser!!

In the right conditions, you can talk around the world with low poser!



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I'll say it again:

>>can thank that idiot Hillary and her first lady Bill for listening to be
>>illegal.  Maybe those rf signals shouldn't come into my home.  That is
>>trespassing!  If they come into my home, don't I have a right to listen to
>
>Geez, learn some history (and some law) before you spout off
>in public!
>
>First off, ECPA was signed in 1986.  Clinton wasn't elected
>until 1992.
>
It wasn't till '95 that it was illegal to listen to cordless phones.

>Second, electromagnetic radiation cannot "trespass" under
>any law on the planet.
>
It sure comes into my home unwelcomed all the time.  What would you call that?

Cable theft is different.  Cable is a service provider that I pay a premium
for.  If I want to watch those premium channels, I pay the premimum because he

runs the cable into my house at my request.  If he runs a microwave link that
happens to go through my house, I'm picking up whatever I want to because I
didn't "ask" him to do that.

tyler



From [e-mail] Wed Oct 30 06:57:06 1996
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From: [e-mail] (TIMOTHY GUEGUEN)
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Subject: Re: CQ Comm's Subscription Troubles?
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Thomas R. Sundstrom ([e-mail]) wrote:
: Curt Phillips wrote:
:
: >   Greene's publications are in trouble, CQ has some publications in
: > trouble, RCMA is either dead or in a deep coma, US Scanner News is AWOL an
d
: > Grove is saying in MONITORING TIMES that his business (both hardware and
: > publishing) has been off a lot over the past year...  where is this great
: > economy that they're telling us about?

: I think it has more to do with the bottom of the sunspot cycle and the
: distraction of the Internet's offerings. The largest segment of SW
: radios  being sold nowadays are the nominal $200-$250 portables. With
: these receivers I think some would-be listeners are discouraged by not
: being able to hear all the second- and third-level signals from remote
: parts of the world.

: Tom
: --

:  Thomas R. Sundstrom                         [e-mail]
:  TRS Consultants                             http://www.trsc.com
:  PO Box 2275                                 [e-mail]
:  Vincentown, NJ 08088-2275, USA
:  [phone] | Fax [phone]
:  < Contributing Editor, "Radio & Communications", ACP Symes Magazines >
Intersting comments from Mr. Sundstrom, as always.  He does have a point
about folks not realising that the more exotic stations aren't exactly
easy catches on portables.  It can be done however.  Probably my best
catch was two or three years back, when I heard the Solomon Islands
Broadcasting Corporation late one winter night.  Their signal on 5020 khz
was weak but understandable.  A great catch on my Sangean ATS803a and
less than opitimal attic random wire.  And I'm sure some newcomers, not
realising how bad current reception conditions are, have returned their
new radios for a refund, thinking there is nothing to listen to on shortwave.

As for Wayne Greene, has a new issue of 73 magazine come out in the last
month?  The most recent one around here was the September issue.  Of
course, over the last few months I've been rather amused with some of the
content of the magazine, such as a review of a book that claims the moon
landings were faked, or the article in the Sept. issue that mentioned
so-called "zero point" energy devices.  The fringe science stuff I'm sure
has turned off some readers.

On the other hand, I hand the pleasure of actually being able to buy the
October issue of Monitoring Times at a local bookstore.  Its great to see
it finally available locally.  Hopefully it will continue to show up.

tim gueguen [e-mail]




From [e-mail] Wed Oct 30 06:57:08 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Curt Phillips)
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[e-mail] (TIMOTHY GUEGUEN) wrote:
>Thomas R. Sundstrom ([e-mail]) wrote:
>: Curt Phillips wrote:
>: >   Greene's publications are in trouble, CQ has some publications in
>: > trouble, RCMA is either dead or in a deep coma, US Scanner News is AWOL a
nd
>: > Grove is saying in MONITORING TIMES that his business (both hardware and
>: > publishing) has been off a lot over the past year...  where is this great
>: > economy that they're telling us about?
>: I think it has more to do with the bottom of the sunspot cycle and the
>: distraction of the Internet's offerings. The largest segment of SW
>: radios  being sold nowadays are the nominal $200-$250 portables. With
>: these receivers I think some would-be listeners are discouraged by not
>: being able to hear all the second- and third-level signals from remote
>: parts of the world.
>Intersting comments from Mr. Sundstrom, as always.  He does have a point
>about folks not realising that the more exotic stations aren't exactly
>easy catches on portables.  It can be done however.  Probably my best
[snip]
>As for Wayne Greene, has a new issue of 73 magazine come out in the last
>month?  The most recent one around here was the September issue.  Of

  The report was that "Wayne Greene, Inc" had filed for bankruptcy <sp>,
but that "73" was not a part of it.  WGI evidently, encompassed a computer
magazine, a CD music magazine and (maybe?) his cold-fusion newsletter.
  So, supposedly, 73 will continue, but I have noticed it is getting
smaller each month.  Of course, Wayne should have a bundle in the bank from
the sale of all of his empire to IDG in the mid-1980s.  He supposedly got
between $15 - $60 million in that deal.

>course, over the last few months I've been rather amused with some of the
>content of the magazine, such as a review of a book that claims the moon
>landings were faked, or the article in the Sept. issue that mentioned

  Of course, with the "moon landings faked" story he was copying the gone
but not forgotten Midnight Man of WWCR, William Cooper (up until recently,
on WWCR 5065 Khz from Midnight to 1AM, Eastern).  Cooper claims we got
advanced technology from aliens back in the 1930s, but for some reason
faked the moon landings (something about all of the original astronauts
being Masons :-).

>so-called "zero point" energy devices.  The fringe science stuff I'm sure
>has turned off some readers.

  Yep, Wayne is knee-deep into the "cold fusion is real" movement, and has
been publishing a newsletter on it (although that may have collapsed with
the bankruptcy).

  73 is still a good magazine, and I hope Green is able to keep it going.

========== Opinions expressed are solely those of the author ==========
Curt Phillips, CEM KD4YU (ex-WB4LHI)   | "I don't want to achieve
Engineer/Writer/Hurricane Fran survivor| immortality through my work.
Chairman, Tar Heel Scanner/SWL Group   | I want to achieve it through
ARRL Life; QCWA; Raleigh ARS; NRA; AEE | NOT DYING."     -- Woody Allen
==== [e-mail] ===== [Copyright 1996 All rights reserved]====




From [e-mail] Wed Oct 30 06:57:09 1996
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From: SKYHAWK <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: CTSS Board/BC890?
Date: Mon, 28 Oct 1996 19:14:11 -0800
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Anybody know where to get the CTSS Tone board for the BC 890 , for
cheaper than $60 Bucs????
--
"The SKY's the limit"
TPS 207-874-0574


From [e-mail] Wed Oct 30 06:57:09 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Jeff)
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Anyone in the Dallas area that can say what diferent channels are we hearing
on AUDIONET's  Dallas PD's real audio on the NET.

Jeff


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From: "T. Allen" <[e-mail]>
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Jeff wrote:
>Anyone in the Dallas area that can say what diferent channels are we hearing
>on AUDIONET's  Dallas PD's real audio on the NET.
>Jeff

You can go to uttp://www.airmail.net/dpd/com_code.txt for a list of
channels,
their frequencies and what the channels are used for.  All of these are
being
broadcast.
It is operating just like a regular scanner.  When Channel 1 (Central
Patrol)
is not being used then it goes over to Channel 2 (Northeast Patrol).  It
then
stops when someone is talking.

T.E.Allen


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email me, i like to know more about this, please
thanx
dan
[e-mail]
(OHIO)


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From: [e-mail] (T.E.Allen)
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Subject: Dallas PD radio traffic via RealAudio
Date: Tue, 22 Oct 1996 09:23:02 -0500
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The Dallas Police Department now broadcasts its 16 police channels in
realtime (well, only a 8 second delay).

http://www.audionet.com/radio/dallaspd

TAllen


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From: Jim <[e-mail]>
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T.E.Allen wrote:
 >
 > The Dallas Police Department now broadcasts its 16 police channels in
 > realtime (well, only a 8 second delay).
 >
 > http://www.audionet.com/radio/dallaspd
 >
 > TAllen

I have just a small question (well, maybe actually several questions):

1. Does 'Audionet' have permission to do this (I am just asking - I'd
   maybe like to do something similar someday)?


2. Is this 'legal' (given what was in the Comm. act of 1929 and 1934:
'listen
   but not reveal' clauses ...)?

Questions, comments?

Jim


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From: [e-mail] (Victor Healey)
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In article <[e-mail]>  posted on Tue, 22
Oct 1996 09:23:02 -0500,
T.E.Allen  who is at mailto:[e-mail] says...
> The Dallas Police Department now broadcasts its 16 police channels in
> realtime (well, only a 8 second delay).
>
> http://www.audionet.com/radio/dallaspd

Now that is neat. I was able to follow even the morse code repeater id
via this link.

--
Victor Healey Ki4je
Marietta Ga.


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Heck I have heard that those porkupines at US Scanner News an Popular
Communications have screwed their writers out of thousands of dollars.
Maybe the readers should boycot the magazines and call the advertisers.


From [e-mail] Wed Oct 30 06:57:15 1996
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From: [e-mail] (D Stark)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Deadbeat Publishers
Date: Thu, 24 Oct 96 16:19:19 GMT
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In article <54m8n9$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (NYO41ed) wrote
:

>I really feel that the publications that are up against hard times can
>like most businesses that tread rocky water blame it on mis-management.

Or on greed, which can cause the mismanagement.  Trying to
make the big bucks in a hurry, rather than being content
with staying afloat and meeting expenses.



From [e-mail] Wed Oct 30 06:57:16 1996
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From: Nick Marsh <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Deadbeat Publishers
Date: Fri, 25 Oct 1996 17:30:03 -0300
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To: Popularcom <[e-mail]>

Popularcom wrote:
>
> Nothing's "wrong" with Pop'Comm - we're feeling the same pinch that all
> other pubs/businesses in our hobby are currently experiencing. Times have
> been tough, but they're getting better, AND NO ONE is getting "screwed" by
> us.
> Sincerely,
> Harold Ort
> Editor, Pop'Comm

Thanks Harold for the info. I appreciate your response and I'm sure many
others will be glad to hear that all is as well as can be expected under
the current market and economic conditions. It is so easy to get a rumour
started on the net and with the change of editors and moving around of
authors at POPCOMM it was easy to see that one coming.

Keep up the good work. I'd like to see an article on a really solid
RS-232 to TTL interface for the SCOUT, AR8000 and AR2700 built around the
MAX 232 or 233 chip.
--


Nick
WB4SQI
Ashland, KY
Scanner Enthusiast and Delinquent Ham


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D Stark wrote:
>
> In article <54m8n9$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (NYO41ed) wro
te:
>
> >I really feel that the publications that are up against hard times can
> >like most businesses that tread rocky water blame it on mis-management.
>
> Or on greed, which can cause the mismanagement.  Trying to
> make the big bucks in a hurry, rather than being content
> with staying afloat and meeting expenses.

Bingo, Dave!


From [e-mail] Wed Oct 30 06:57:18 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Michael Alexander)
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Subject: Re: Deadbeat Publishers
Date: Sat, 26 Oct 1996 13:44:59 -0400
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In article <54qdoj$[e-mail]>, [e-mail]
(Popularcom) wrote:

[stuff deleted]

> So, take this note for concrete "fact" that no one is being "porked" -
> let's stand tall and approach this subject as professional men and women,
> not pre-schoolers, folks!

The specific allegation was that PopComm is "porking" writers, not its
subscribers. You don't address that issue at all.

I would certainly agree that the economy, and a low-dollar volume business
(scanners) would make advertising dollars tough to come by. The one thing
that you don't mention is the role that editorial plays in attracting
subscribers (thereby attracting ad dollars). That omission is telling, I
think.

I used to subscribe to PopComm, but I stopped. The reasons are: too many
articles geared to stroking advertisers, and too few articles covering
scanners and related stuff.

I really didn't care for all of the "back-when-radio-was-shortwave-in-Cuba"
stuff that is your primary editorial focus. I wanted then, and now,
*trustworthy* head-to-head product comparisons, new products, product
roundups, features about new technologies, how-to tricks/shortcuts/hacks
and other useful stuff. Scanners, and shortwave, too (I don't own one, but
it would never occur to me to read PopComm to find out which SW radio I
should buy).

For what it's worth, I used to subscribe to MT too. No longer. Basically
for the same reasons.

--
Michael Alexander
[e-mail]


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From: [e-mail] (Michael Alexander)
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Subject: Re: Deadbeat Publishers
Date: Sat, 26 Oct 1996 20:22:49 -0400
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In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] wrote:

> D Stark wrote:
> >
> > In article <54m8n9$[e-mail]>, [e-mail]
(NYO41ed) wrote:
> >
> > >I really feel that the publications that are up against hard times can
> > >like most businesses that tread rocky water blame it on mis-management.
> >
> > Or on greed, which can cause the mismanagement.  Trying to
> > make the big bucks in a hurry, rather than being content
> > with staying afloat and meeting expenses.
>
> Bingo, Dave!

I'm sorry, but nobody goes into the magazine publishing business expecting
to make big bucks in a hurry. If you knew anything about the magazine
business, you would know that this statement is completely without
foundation. Magazines are notorious money losers. Probably 9 out of 10 fail
within the first couple of years (you can't even begin to count the number
of computer magazines that have come and gone in the past 3-4 four years,
for example). Take Sports Illustrated for instance. That magazine lost
money for 10 years running before turning a profit. Magazines also are very
expensive to launch, especially on a national level. They are expensive to
produce, at least in four color, and to market and distribute. Getting
newsstand distribution is exceptionally difficult too. The competition is
very fierce because shelf space is limited and there are many new
publications trying to break in at any one time. Editorial talent is very
expensive. Editors today make serious money--particularly on trade
magazines that require specialized industry knowledge. Man, I could go on
and on...

--
Michael Alexander
[e-mail]


From [e-mail] Wed Oct 30 06:57:20 1996
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From: Joe Makatura <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: Deadbeat Publishers
Date: Mon, 28 Oct 1996 21:21:32 -0700
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To: Michael Alexander <[e-mail]>

Michael Alexander wrote:
>
> In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] wrote:
>
> > D Stark wrote:
> > >
> > > In article <54m8n9$[e-mail]>, [e-mail]
> (NYO41ed) wrote:
> > >
> > > >I really feel that the publications that are up against hard times can
> > > >like most businesses that tread rocky water blame it on mis-management.
> > >
> > > Or on greed, which can cause the mismanagement.  Trying to
> > > make the big bucks in a hurry, rather than being content
> > > with staying afloat and meeting expenses.
> >
> > Bingo, Dave!
>
> I'm sorry, but nobody goes into the magazine publishing business expecting
> to make big bucks in a hurry. If you knew anything about the magazine
> business, you would know that this statement is completely without
> foundation. Magazines are notorious money losers. Probably 9 out of 10 fail
> within the first couple of years (you can't even begin to count the number
> of computer magazines that have come and gone in the past 3-4 four years,
> for example). Take Sports Illustrated for instance. That magazine lost
> money for 10 years running before turning a profit. Magazines also are very
> expensive to launch, especially on a national level. They are expensive to
> produce, at least in four color, and to market and distribute. Getting
> newsstand distribution is exceptionally difficult too. The competition is
> very fierce because shelf space is limited and there are many new
> publications trying to break in at any one time. Editorial talent is very
> expensive. Editors today make serious money--particularly on trade
> magazines that require specialized industry knowledge. Man, I could go on
> and on...
>
> --
> Michael Alexander
> [e-mail]
Yes, but CQ Comms is a prime example of a publisher getting too greedy.
They had no business coming out with a CB magazine. Most of their
adverstisers' merchandise could be purchased locally so national
advertising was a complete waste of money. This pub was doomed from the
start. And CQ VHF...give me a break. This magazine is a complete joke.

Joe


From [e-mail] Wed Oct 30 06:57:21 1996
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From: Tom West <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Detector Calibration
Date: 30 Oct 1996 05:35:07 GMT
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Does anyone know if Bel-Tronics calibrates their detectors? I have one of
their units that is a couple years old and has began to emit a false warning
ANy help would be appreciated.

                              Daryl West
                              [e-mail]


From [e-mail] Wed Oct 30 06:57:22 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Michael Cunningham)
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Subject: Diamond Discone Problem?
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I recently had a Diamond D130J discone installed on my tower. After the
installer had left I noticed that one of the long metal elements that points
down towards the ground had been bent upward so it is in a horizontal
position.

Will this affect the antenna very much? It seems to work pretty well.
Would it be best to just leave it alone? I thought if it was bent back
downward it might break off.

The antenna is not used for transmitting.

Thanks...........Mike


---
 ■ NFX v1.3 [000]



From [e-mail] Wed Oct 30 06:57:23 1996
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Subject: Re: Discone ?'s
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Scott,
I am going out to buy a Discone myself, what type of verticl element
do you recomend, and could you tell me the best coax to use, which has
the least amount of loss?
Thanks for any help.
Garry
On Fri, 18 Oct 1996 12:03:54 -0700, Scott Blaha
<[e-mail]> wrote:

>William A Charette wrote:
>>
>> a couple questions...
>> I've never seen one before....how big are they?
>
>Most are about 2-3' high, and 3' dia or so at the base.
>
>>
>> Is it something that needs to be mounted on a rooftop like a ham radio
>> antenna?
>
>can be-I like to 'hang' mine in the attic with nonconductive plastic.
>
>> or is it something that can be in a car with a portable scanner?
>
>Only if you have a spare seat you're not using <g>
>
>>
>> If it's a rooftop deal, does it need a mast?
>
>see above
>
>>
>> How much does a new one run?
>
>Varies...RS has two; one for $15-20, and one for $60. I have them both,
>but to be honest, the $15 one is a deal.
>
>>
>> If/when I look for one, where might I find a new one if there isn't one
>> for sale in this group (as in which specific stores or what kinds of
>> stores in general, or mail order houses as well?)
>
>RS, as I mentioned, or try the Grove home page.
>
>>
>> And...which bands or frequency ranges will it help with?
>
>Well, the advertise 25-1300Mhz, but without adding a vertical element,
>you don't get as good cordless reception.
>
>>
>> email preferred.  Reply to [e-mail]
>>
>> thanks in advance,
>> Bill
>
>Hope this helps
>
>Scott



From [e-mail] Wed Oct 30 06:57:24 1996
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From: Sean <[e-mail]>
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Subject: disney freqs.
Date: Sat, 26 Oct 1996 23:09:40 -0400
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Here is a request that probably gets posted every so often, does anyone
have a listing for Disney World freqs.  I used to have a listing, but
they got misplaced and lost when I moved.  I'm heading down there in
Nov, so any help is greatly appreciated.  Please respond with any help
or lists to [e-mail].   Many thanks for any responses.


From [e-mail] Wed Oct 30 06:57:25 1996
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From: "Robert H. Eisner" <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: disney freqs.
Date: Sat, 26 Oct 1996 23:21:42 -0400
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To: Sean <[e-mail]>

Sean wrote:
>
> Here is a request that probably gets posted every so often, does anyone
> have a listing for Disney World freqs.  I used to have a listing, but
> they got misplaced and lost when I moved.  I'm heading down there in
> Nov, so any help is greatly appreciated.  Please respond with any help
> or lists to [e-mail].   Many thanks for any responses.

Check out the following URL:

 http://acm.rpi.edu/~n1spx/freq/disney.frq

Bob


From [e-mail] Wed Oct 30 06:57:26 1996
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From: [e-mail] (tyler)
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Subject: DO Bill Cheek/John Mackey really work for Rat Shack?
Date: 22 Oct 1996 14:26:59 GMT
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Is it true?  Do Bill Cheek and John Mackey really work for the likes of Rat
Shack?



From [e-mail] Wed Oct 30 06:57:27 1996
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From: [e-mail] (NR3O, Chris Smith)
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Subject: Does Any 2700 Software WORK (well)?
Date: 25 Oct 1996 19:40:02 GMT
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I have a new AR2700 and am getting very frustrated trying to get software to
work with it...at least like I would think it's SUPPOSED to.

I bought SCANCAT GOLD, both the DOS and then the Windows versions.  It seems
flakey to me with the 2700.  For one thing, their makers say the squelch has t
o
remain open during a search to get signal strength back, but THAT's pretty
annoying to use that way.  Also, the pop-up windows misbehave, the searching
stops for 5-10 seconds without a signal--then resumes, and the various control
s
like the continue delay don't seem to work right to me. [This on the new
Windows version.]

The same sort of story seems true with Radio Manager ("RM") shareware--doesn't

seem to work right with the 2700. Controls don't seem to work correctly or as
one might expect. For one thing, the default settings do not work and once you

get into diddling parameters, you have no idea what to diddle how much (many o
f
these packages seem to give you adjustments, but procedure for how to optimize

what you're doing for a particular radio).

In both these cases, the documentation is either poor or too generic for a
particular radio (I have had trouble with getting my Icom 706 to run with RM
and SCANCAT too).

Yes, I will seek additional tech support (and have to wait for it), but does
anyone have any GOOD experience with software for the 2700?  I did find the AO
R
PC Manager software to work pretty much, albeit very much limited in
capability.  *IT* does not seem to work consistently in the spectrum analysis
area.....gees!  It's also a remote control type program for the radio as
opposed to a more fully featured PC-based radio control program (there is a
subtle point here it seems).

Thanks & please respond to [e-mail] and [e-mail]
m
(someday I'll get my eMail doing what I want to <g>).

Chris NR3O




From [e-mail] Wed Oct 30 06:57:28 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Donald Gray)
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Subject: Re: Does Any 2700 Software WORK (well)?
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[e-mail] (NR3O, Chris Smith) wrote:

>I have a new AR2700 and am getting very frustrated trying to get software to
>work with it...at least like I would think it's SUPPOSED to.

[snip]
>Chris NR3O

I too have found the same Chris, I was so flagged off at paying out
good money and not getting the anticipated performance!

I won't slag off any particular offering, but I was so disapointed
that I decided to do a new Windows package for the AR8000. It will be
available for the AR2700 but not just as yet.

The programme, CHANNEL COMMANDER V2.00 is under beta test NOW and a
few routines are to be finished.

I have created a TRY before BUY system. A fully featured demo version
will be lodged in a web server soon. The demo version will be the full
package and will do everything that the registered version will do,
except that the demo version times out after 15 minutes but can be
restarted for further 15 mins etc etc. This way, you can fully
appraise the features, quality, and usefullness before parting with a
penny. (Planned upgrades will be free of charge other than covering
cost of disk/postage if not emailed.)

(Any data generated via the demo version is automatically picked up
and used by the registered version)

I will keep you posted as to when and where the web site is for you to
download a copy of CHANNEL COMMANDER V2.00 as soon as I have more
specific details.

Another AR8000 (AR27000 potential)  software is also very nearly ready
for release: "CONTROL 8000"  This will also be on the web soon. This
will also be ideal for people with visual disability (Big buttons &
Big Freq displays etc. Again I will let you know its availability
site/sites nearer the time

Regards


Donald Gray
Free Agent V1.0 -
Eudora Lite V1.5.4
Please do not short the output or severe damage will be caused to the fuse.
         (On a Sony power supply leaflet!)



From [e-mail] Wed Oct 30 06:57:29 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Rob Neff)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: DTMF Decoder web site
Date: 21 Oct 1996 09:48:01 -0700
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>What is a DTMF Decoder and what can it do for me or my scanner ? I am
>familar with CTCSS tones but not DTMF.
>TIA
>KM

Basicly, they are Touch-Tones. The same tones used on your telephones.
A decoder would display the coresponding number of each tone to you,
as they were sent.
(Dual Tone, Multi Frequency)

Rob Neff





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I'm looking for the best dual band handheld out there.  I need the following
features.

1> Alpha Tagging
2> Easily modified to receive cellular
3> Easily modified for extended transmit( important)
4> PL encode/decode
5> Fast scanning
6> 100 memory channels
7> Like to have aircraft band
8> Must be 5W at max power

I'm assuming one of the AOR's is an option. Icom and Yaesu come to mind too.
Kenwood's been putting out ok radio's too.

Lemme know ASAP.  I'm looking to spend $500-600.

Redirect Flames,quotations of law, and other BS to /dev/null or nil:.

Lileeth



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Lileeth A Atkinson ([e-mail]) wrote:

: 1> Alpha Tagging
: 2> Easily modified to receive cellular
: 3> Easily modified for extended transmit( important)
: 4> PL encode/decode
: 5> Fast scanning
: 6> 100 memory channels
: 7> Like to have aircraft band
: 8> Must be 5W at max power


                                WELCOME TO
                                 THE WORLD
                                  OF AR8000
                                   RECEIVER


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Steve Work ([e-mail]) wrote:
: Lileeth A Atkinson ([e-mail]) wrote:

: : 1> Alpha Tagging
: : 2> Easily modified to receive cellular
: : 3> Easily modified for extended transmit( important)
: : 4> PL encode/decode
: : 5> Fast scanning
: : 6> 100 memory channels
: : 7> Like to have aircraft band
: : 8> Must be 5W at max power

:
:                                 WELCOME TO
:                                  THE WORLD
:                                   OF AR8000
:                                    RECEIVER

Ooops. I should have specified that.  Dual Band Handheld TRANSCEIVER.

Thanks for the response.

How does the Kenwood TH-79AD fare with the Yaesu FT51R ?  They both look like
NICE radios.

Lileeth



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Does anyone know the frequency for Southern California Edison in the West side

area like Beverly Hills, Century City, it used to be on VHF but they moved to
800, I think. Also anyone know the frequencies for Westech Security in the sam
e
area? If so e-mail me or just post here.
Thanks
Ken


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From: Dan <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: Ethics on monitoring cordless video.
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[e-mail] wrote:
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>  If it comes in on my tv,I'm gonna' watch it. If you don't like it, don't
> put a tv transmitter in your bedroom. Same goes for my scanner...


Amen Brother........Tell them about it!
The beauty of it is that most dumbasses have no idea that they can be
seen or heard.
I love this hobby!


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[e-mail] wrote:
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>  If it comes in on my tv,I'm gonna' watch it. If you don't like it, don't
> put a tv transmitter in your bedroom. Same goes for my scanner...
        Okay, I won't put your scanner in my bedroom.
--
        When one has a chance to annoy
        people, one should do so.
                     --Oswald Spengler
                Philosopher of History


From [e-mail] Wed Oct 30 06:57:35 1996
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Steve S wrote:
> With the advent of new cordless video cameras for monitoring Junior in
> his crib, a whole new era of scanner (television) monitoring has
> dawned. Toys 'R Us is marketing two different cordless video systems.
> One operates on TV channel 58 I think. After this holiday season, when
> many parents put these new toys into use, I suspect some enterprising
> scanner/monitor enthusiast will buy a Radio Shack VU-225 or some such
> outdoor TV antenna and a rotor. After much searching around, this
> enthusiast may hit pay dirt; a constant video signal from a neighbor's
> master bedroom.
        Why would the baby's crib be in the master bedroom?


From [e-mail] Wed Oct 30 06:57:36 1996
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From: Mike Drucker <[e-mail]>
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Porchnoy wrote:
>
> [e-mail] wrote:
>         When one has a chance to annoy
>         people, one should do so.
>                      --Oswald Spengler
>                 Philosopher of History

That's a gem.  Suggest you check out John Cleese's video, "How to
Irritate  People,"  for further guidance on this art form.

And lest I be accused of going off-topic...  The airwaves are public
property (Communications Act of 1934).  I am a member of the public.
Therefore, I am an owner of the airwaves.  As an owner, I have the right
to use my property as I see fit - including monitoring it.  (Licensing
requirements are another topic entirely.)

Seems like this debate has been going on forever...

Ken Ailsworth


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From: [e-mail] (Andy Domonkos)
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Where can you monitor these cordless video? (What channels, freqs, etc).

Thanks.

Andy



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With the advent of new cordless video cameras for monitoring Junior in
his crib, a whole new era of scanner (television) monitoring has
dawned. Toys 'R Us is marketing two different cordless video systems.
One operates on TV channel 58 I think. After this holiday season, when
many parents put these new toys into use, I suspect some enterprising
scanner/monitor enthusiast will buy a Radio Shack VU-225 or some such
outdoor TV antenna and a rotor. After much searching around, this
enthusiast may hit pay dirt; a constant video signal from a neighbor's
master bedroom.

Should this monitoring opportunity be as illegal as phone monitoring?

Does this exceed the bounds of the listener's (watcher's) right to
know?

I'd like to hear some opinions on this.

TIA,
Steve S.
KAF8111


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In <[e-mail]> Porchnoy <[e-mail]>
writes:
>
>Steve S wrote:
<snip> After much searching around, this
>> enthusiast may hit pay dirt; a constant video signal from a
neighbor's
>> master bedroom.
>       Why would the baby's crib be in the master bedroom?

For the same reason we find baby monitors in the master bedroom; no
spare room in the house or apartment for Junior to have his own room.
I'm not saying this situation will be common, but many know that it is
a distinct possibility.  Mom or Dad may have set the camera on a chest
of drawers overlooking both the crib and bed. They may forget to turn
it off when they retire hence providing a monitor more than a shot of
Junior sleeping.

Steve S.



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Porchnoy wrote:
>
> Steve S wrote:
> > With the advent of new cordless video cameras for monitoring Junior in
> > his crib, a whole new era of scanner (television) monitoring has
> > dawned. Toys 'R Us is marketing two different cordless video systems.
> > One operates on TV channel 58 I think. After this holiday season, when
> > many parents put these new toys into use, I suspect some enterprising
> > scanner/monitor enthusiast will buy a Radio Shack VU-225 or some such
> > outdoor TV antenna and a rotor. After much searching around, this
> > enthusiast may hit pay dirt; a constant video signal from a neighbor's
> > master bedroom.
>         Why would the baby's crib be in the master bedroom?

Well, that's actually not to odd-many parents keep the baby in their room,
especially for the 1st few month's (We did). But the real question is: Why
would anyone _want_ to watch Junior in his crib in _any_ bedroom?!

Scott


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From: [e-mail] (Alan140709)
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Subject: Re: Ethics on monitoring cordless video.
Date: 29 Oct 1996 07:16:29 -0500
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Mike Drucker <[e-mail]> wrote:

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>
>And lest I be accused of going off-topic...  The airwaves are public
>property (Communications Act of 1934).  I am a member of the public.
>Therefore, I am an owner of the airwaves.  As an owner, I have the right
>to use my property as I see fit - including monitoring it.

No you don't. You are one individual, not the public.  Public property is
entrusted to an administrator or administrative body for use as intended
by the public as expressed through appropriate laws, charters, rules,
policies and/or guidelines.  Many public officials, employees and others
have found this out the hard way by going to jail for diverting public
property to personal use. This is usually for tangible property mis-use,
but intangible property abuse is protected by law just as much as
tangible.

Your statement  "As an owner, I have the right to use my property as I see
fit" when referring to public property should be re-worded to say  "As a
MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC, I have the right to use PUBLIC PROPERTY as THE
APPROPRIATE ADMINISTRATIVE BODY  sees  fit".

>(Licensing  requirements are another topic entirely.)

No they're not.  They are an integral part of the codified expression of
the public's intent as to just how the particular public property shall be
used. For example,  drivers licenses, speed limits, load limits and rules
of the road are all part of the laws governing highway use.  Granted, you
might not agree with the code, but that's the way representative
government works.

If the law says you cannot overtly monitor certain frequencies, that is
just as binding legally as the prohibition of amateur radio transmissions
outside the amateur bands.

Alan


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From: [e-mail] (Blue dot 9)
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In article <[e-mail]>, Scott Blaha
<[e-mail]> writes:

> But the real question is: Why
>would anyone _want_ to watch Junior in his crib in _any_ bedroom?!
>
>

Would you like to see that gorgeous blonde's teat being drained by Jr.?
It could happen.

Dave
(Scanner Flatulaire)


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 You say that an induvidual doesn't have a right to use public property
for his own use. When a person uses the public airwaves to transmit a
signal, and then says that no one can listen, he's using the airwaves for
his own use. By the way, the FCC is supposed to regulate spectrum usage.
When your just monitoring, your not "using" any spectrum, and your not
communicating. I see monitors as being outside the jurisdiction of the
FCC. Whether or not you monitor, it has no effect on the electromagnetic
spectrum, so it falls outside their sphere of concern. They don't have any
ligitimate authority to pass laws on monitoring.


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From: [e-mail] (djbond)
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uh...how does one scan video using a scanner?

dj
On 29 Oct 1996 21:28:02 GMT, [e-mail] wrote:

> You say that an induvidual doesn't have a right to use public property
>for his own use. When a person uses the public airwaves to transmit a
>signal, and then says that no one can listen, he's using the airwaves for
>his own use. By the way, the FCC is supposed to regulate spectrum usage.
>When your just monitoring, your not "using" any spectrum, and your not
>communicating. I see monitors as being outside the jurisdiction of the
>FCC. Whether or not you monitor, it has no effect on the electromagnetic
>spectrum, so it falls outside their sphere of concern. They don't have any
>ligitimate authority to pass laws on monitoring.



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[e-mail] wrote:
>
>  You say that an induvidual doesn't have a right to use public property
> for his own use. When a person uses the public airwaves to transmit a
> signal, and then says that no one can listen, he's using the airwaves for
> his own use. By the way, the FCC is supposed to regulate spectrum usage.
> When your just monitoring, your not "using" any spectrum, and your not
> communicating. I see monitors as being outside the jurisdiction of the
> FCC. Whether or not you monitor, it has no effect on the electromagnetic
> spectrum, so it falls outside their sphere of concern. They don't have any
> ligitimate authority to pass laws on monitoring.


Tell him dude.....

Hey people get out your manual to your cell phones and look in the back.
It says something to the fact of:

Its against the law to curse on the airways!
Boy from what I have heard, 2 out of 5 cell phone users are breaking the
law!
You never hear of anybody getting fines or put in jail for that do you?
So why the hell do you think someones going to get sent off for
listening to it?
Its a stupid law just like the privacy act.....only a few pay any
attention to it.


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Alan140709 wrote:
>
> Mike Drucker <[e-mail]> wrote:
>
> snip
> >
> >And lest I be accused of going off-topic...  The airwaves are public
> >property (Communications Act of 1934).  I am a member of the public.
> >Therefore, I am an owner of the airwaves.  As an owner, I have the right
> >to use my property as I see fit - including monitoring it.
>
> No you don't. You are one individual, not the public.  Public property is
> entrusted to an administrator or administrative body for use as intended
> by the public as expressed through appropriate laws, charters, rules,
> policies and/or guidelines.  Many public officials, employees and others
> have found this out the hard way by going to jail for diverting public
> property to personal use. This is usually for tangible property mis-use,
> but intangible property abuse is protected by law just as much as
> tangible.
>
> Your statement  "As an owner, I have the right to use my property as I see
> fit" when referring to public property should be re-worded to say  "As a
> MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC, I have the right to use PUBLIC PROPERTY as THE
> APPROPRIATE ADMINISTRATIVE BODY  sees  fit".
>
> >(Licensing  requirements are another topic entirely.)
>
> No they're not.  They are an integral part of the codified expression of
> the public's intent as to just how the particular public property shall be
> used. For example,  drivers licenses, speed limits, load limits and rules
> of the road are all part of the laws governing highway use.  Granted, you
> might not agree with the code, but that's the way representative
> government works.
>
> If the law says you cannot overtly monitor certain frequencies, that is
> just as binding legally as the prohibition of amateur radio transmissions
> outside the amateur bands.
>
> Alan



Whaaaaaaaaa! you little baby. Enforcement is so low on this that there
is only a handful
of people who get caught every year.


From [e-mail] Wed Oct 30 06:57:46 1996
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From: [e-mail] (TristTom)
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Date: 26 Oct 1996 11:11:49 -0400
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Here's a question that I'm hoping someone can help me with-

If I plug my 3000xlt scanner into my car stereo via the cassette to cd
adapter thingy, does it drain the batteries on my scanner more than if I
used the built-in speaker?



________________________________________________________
Mr. Tristan Li Tom

[e-mail]          http://users.aol.com/tristtom/

213.845.0626

"When I tried to tell my story, they cut me off, to take
a break. I sat silent 5 commercials-I had nothing left
to say." - R.E.M.
________________________________________________________





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TristTom wrote:
>
> Here's a question that I'm hoping someone can help me with-
>
> If I plug my 3000xlt scanner into my car stereo via the cassette to cd
> adapter thingy, does it drain the batteries on my scanner more than if I
> used the built-in speaker?
>
> ________________________________________________________
> Mr. Tristan Li Tom
>
> [e-mail]          http://users.aol.com/tristtom/
>
> 213.845.0626
>
> "When I tried to tell my story, they cut me off, to take
> a break. I sat silent 5 commercials-I had nothing left
> to say." - R.E.M.
> ________________________________________________________


Hi, if you have the volume control on the scanner set lower than you
normally would, then the battery drain will be lower , beacuse you are
driving the scanner's audio output amp less harder. But also remember
that when using the fake cassette, you are also causing the motor,
belts, and drive wheels in your car's stereo to get extra wear. Try
looking for an audio transfer product that  transmits on the FM
Broadcast band instead.Then just set your car stereo to a blank FM
channel.


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[e-mail] (TristTom) wrote:

>Here's a question that I'm hoping someone can help me with-

>If I plug my 3000xlt scanner into my car stereo via the cassette to cd
>adapter thingy, does it drain the batteries on my scanner more than if I
>used the built-in speaker?


Hi Tristron,

I doubt that it will drain the batteries faster. If anything it may
make them last a wee bit longer but I very much doubt if  you will
notice the difference, one way or the other.

regards


Donald Gray
Free Agent V1.0 -
Eudora Lite V1.5.4
Please do not short the output or severe damage will be caused to the fuse.
         (On a Sony power supply leaflet!)



From [e-mail] Wed Oct 30 06:57:49 1996
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From: "Barry Burke Jr." <[e-mail]>
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Date: Sat, 26 Oct 1996 08:31:03 -0700
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Blackeye wrote:
>
> For Sale Pro 2006 in excellent condition with manual.
> $325 COD and I pay shipping via ground UPS.


Blackeye,
        There's a guy on this NG that was selling these for $350 new, and $300 for a
factory refurb.


Barry



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Can anyone please give me a list of the FRS frequencies as well as a
quick rundown on the max TX power for them, the date (or approx date)
they became FRS (and no longer a part of GMRS), etc.

Thanks in advance...

Brian Petersen
[e-mail]


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From the  FAF - Frequently Asked Frequencies
      on  ftp://oak.oakland.edu
      as  /pub/hamradio/docs/misc/scanner.faf


FRS - Family Radio Service                                  [95.627]

      Ch     Freq          Ch     Freq

       1   462.5625         8   467.5625
       2   462.5875         9   467.5875
       3   462.6125        10   467.6125
       4   462.6375        11   467.6375
       5   462.6625        12   467.6625
       6   462.6875        13   467.6875
       7   462.7125        14   467.7125

        The FRS was adopted on 10 May 96 and will be authorized
    by July 96. It uses FM with a peak deviation of +/- 2.5 kHz.
    Maximum power is 0.5w.
        Channels 1 - 7 are shared with GMRS.


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From: Taliesin <[e-mail]>
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F. Barry Mulligan <[e-mail]> wrote:

-> From the  FAF - Frequently Asked Frequencies
->       on  ftp://oak.oakland.edu
->       as  /pub/hamradio/docs/misc/scanner.faf


-> FRS - Family Radio Service                                  [95.627]

->       Ch     Freq          Ch     Freq

->        1   462.5625         8   467.5625
->        2   462.5875         9   467.5875
->        3   462.6125        10   467.6125
->        4   462.6375        11   467.6375
->        5   462.6625        12   467.6625
->        6   462.6875        13   467.6875
->        7   462.7125        14   467.7125

->         The FRS was adopted on 10 May 96 and will be authorized
->     by July 96. It uses FM with a peak deviation of +/- 2.5 kHz.
->     Maximum power is 0.5w.
->         Channels 1 - 7 are shared with GMRS.

--

What good is a radio with only 0.5 watts of power?  Better to use CB.



From [e-mail] Wed Oct 30 06:57:53 1996
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From: "Patrick D. Lukens" <[e-mail]>
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Date: Mon, 28 Oct 1996 09:15:59 -0800
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Joseph G. Hetro wrote:
> > What good is a radio with only 0.5 watts of power?  Better to use CB.

> 3. The uhf frequencies can
> transmit through building clearer than the cb.
>
> 4. Types of transmissions:  FM vs AM.

For the most part, CB may be better, but FRS was intended to do things
CBs fall short on.  Note the F stands for "Family."  The FRS is intended
for such things as short range comms during family outings - events, etc.
 It is basically an event oriented utility radio. Therefore, low power is
not a problem...  If you want to talk to someone across town, surely it
won't be useful, but if you have a group of people trying to coordinate
a family event, and you want to talk through buildings ( and don't want
to share your communications with everyone who has a CB in the car) than
FRS may come in handy....


--
--Patrick

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From: [e-mail] (Clint Bradford)
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Subject: RE: Family Radio Service (FRS)
Date: Tue, 29 Oct 1996 23:18:00 GMT
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>>Can anyone please give me a list of the FRS frequencies as well as a
>>quick rundown on the max TX power for them, the date (or approx date)
>>they became FRS (and no longer a part of GMRS), etc.

I just emailed you a copy of the entire FCC Rule creating the FRS.


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Does anyone have a list of FCC classification codes for entries in
FCC frequency database files?  I'm not talking about the service codes,
but the classification types such as "FX1", "FB4", "MO", "FB2", "FX1T",
and so on.  If anyone could please send this my way, preferably with a
CC to my mailbox, I'd really appreciate it.

Thanks in advance...

Brian Petersen
[e-mail]


From [e-mail] Wed Oct 30 06:57:56 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Steve Work)
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chuck uibel ([e-mail]) wrote:
: can the scanner be confiscated at the airport?

First of all, it's not illegal to have a modified scanner, it's only
illegal to *use* it to listen in on cellphones.  The Cellular Security
Groups openly advertises they mod scanners and they have been doing it
for years.  And also, do you expect the minimum-wage security types at
the airport to even know what a scanner is, let alone a modified one.
Don't worry.


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[e-mail] (Steve Work) scribbled:

>And also, do you expect the minimum-wage security types at
>the airport to even know what a scanner is, let alone a modified one.
>Don't worry.

Usually when I go to the airport to drop someone off, I take the scanner
in...but I preset it to the local WX freq. on yesterday's occasion.  I did
this to make the security realize that a handheld scanner is not a magical
weapon.  Just a radio receiver with extra powers (actually they should
think it's just a weather radio after turning it on).

So....when I used to go through security, the schmucks usually said "make
it beep" (heh-heh can't do that with the Pro43 beep mod that makes it
really quiet.).  I just turned it on and static would be there.

Now with the WX programmed I thought I would have less of a problem.
Wrong!  As soon as I turned it on and raised the volume the announcer
stated, "...forecast for the Dallas/Ft. Worth Area, cloudy and 30% chance
for rain..."

You should have seen this guy bug-out.  He said, "you can catch Dallas
with that thing?"  Remember folks, I live in South Texas along the
US/Mexico Border (close to S. Padre Island).

After queer looks at me, and about two minutes of explaining that it was
just a forecast coming from a local station, not from Dallas (what a
dream...reception from hundreds of miles away....) he finally let me go
through.  He was still  dumbfounded, yet he allowed his ignorance make the
decision to let me go inside.  He was just confused at why they were
announcing Dallas WX.

I think he may be related to that guy at Radio Shack (ever notice that no
matter where you go, the dumbest salesman at RS looks like the same
dumbass at the other RS across town?).

I think I will stick to making static noises on my scanner.

Dave
(Scanner Flatulaire)


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From: [e-mail] (Marcum N. Nance III)
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[e-mail] (Sherrod Munday) wrote:

>[e-mail] (Steve Work) wrote:

>>Steve S ([e-mail]) wrote:

And I now write:

Look my intent was to describe the need and usage of the FM wide
setting, not go into the technical details of how an FM stereo program
is encoded... The point is that more information must be encoded into
the channel and a lower distortion or loss is desired, therefore a
wider bandwith is required!
Please lets NOT all breakout out engineering textbooks and describe
the intricacies of FM modulation, pilot tones, SCA broadcasting,
subcarrier modulations, decoding variants and other meaningless (to
the origional poster) drivel...

snip




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In article <54ha6e$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Steve Work) writes:

>I'd like to bet the most stereo generators use this switching approach,
>it's easier to build.  And probably most radios today use the switching
>method of detection, it's easier to implement on a chip and requires
>fewer capacitors and inductors.

Well you might *THINK* that but practical implementation of the theory is
exactly opposite.  The most common stereo generators, in Orban Optimods, use
the "matrix method" of generating stereo by multiplying the L-R component by
38kHz.  The L+R is summed with this signal.  The reason the matrix method is
used is that, if 38 kHz square wave switching is used, a low-pass filter must
be inserted after the stereo generation to remove the harmonics of 38 kHz.
The requirements of the filter are infinitely steep rolloff at the stopband
with extremely flat frequency response and extremely low group delay in the
passband.  The examples of the switching type stereo generator usually
compromise stereo seperation for reasonable filter design.

A practical switching stereo generator was developed by a European company,
Rood, which relaxes filter requirements by using a sine wave switching
technique.

Analog generators are still the "rule" but several true digital stereo
generators are now available due to the price of high-bit D/A's having come
down and the performance having gone up in the past few years but even
Orban's "digital" Optimod 8200 processor uses an analog stereo generator.

You are correct about switching being used for detection though.

Bob Stroupe
Chief Engineer
KKBQ AM/FM



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Subject: For sell or trade
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Have a mint aor8000 with box,manual and all also computer interface
and fax solf ware interested in sell for $650.00 or will trade for a
good handheld bc3000,pro43,60 and base unit pro2004,5,6 or bc9000,8500
.Anyone interested.Email Phil



From [e-mail] Wed Oct 30 06:58:01 1996
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        Am looking for the "flight for life" type of freq. for the Chicago and
Madison, WI area.

        I have the Milwaukee and McHenry Co. ,IL Flight for life on:

                129.275mHz      Flight following
                154.34 mHz      Patient follow up reports
                463.175/468.175 split pair for patient follow-up (this pair
                                most freq. used, but may use any of the 10
                                463/468 pairs e.g 463/468.000, 463/468.025,
                                463/468.050 etc)

        Any input of others in this area???


        jw



From [e-mail] Wed Oct 30 06:58:02 1996
From: [e-mail] (Mike Hertel)
Subject: Frequencies for San Diego, CA
Date: 27 Oct 96 04:08:47 -0700
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Does anyone has a complete list of frequecies for all of the sheriff
units in San Diego county?  If so please post here.


From [e-mail] Wed Oct 30 06:58:02 1996
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From: van den eynde johnny <[e-mail]>
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Subject: frequenties belgie
Date: 26 Oct 1996 20:17:12 GMT
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alle frequenties welkom,
ik ben op zoek naar het trunknetwerk van Bosch?????



From [e-mail] Wed Oct 30 06:58:03 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Bob Davis)
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Subject: FRS and GMRS info please.
Date: Tue, 29 Oct 1996 20:26:29
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Can someone please point me to info on Family Radio Service and the common
frequencies to GMRS.  Also the output power levels would be helpful.  I am
thinking about using an HT I have now on FRS but I know little about it .
                Thanks   Bob
Bob Davis



From [e-mail] Wed Oct 30 06:58:04 1996
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From: "Robert H. Eisner" <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: FRS and GMRS info please.
Date: Tue, 29 Oct 1996 21:09:44 -0500
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To: Bob Davis <[e-mail]>

Bob Davis wrote:
>
> Can someone please point me to info on Family Radio Service and the common
> frequencies to GMRS.  Also the output power levels would be helpful.  I am
> thinking about using an HT I have now on FRS but I know little about it .
>                 Thanks   Bob
> Bob Davis

Hi Bob,

check out the following URLs:

 http://www.srs-rf.com/scanref.htm#GMRS
 http://home.navisoft.com/nspi/frs.html#Q4

Bob


From [e-mail] Wed Oct 30 06:58:05 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Raymond Miller)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.swap,rec.radio.scanner
Subject: FS / Trade: Radio Shack DX-160 W/matching speaker
Date: 27 Oct 1996 13:06:05 GMT
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This unit is for sale or trade. Details in the rec.radio.shortwave NG
Looking to sell or trade (preferably trade) for scanner. What have you
got?
Thanks.


From [e-mail] Wed Oct 30 06:58:05 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Daniel M. Conti)
Subject: FS : ALINCO DR 130 T, 2 meter rig - $175.00 !
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ALINCO DR 130 T 2 meter mobile rig for sale, in box with all hardware,
mountng brackets, manual - MINT, ourchased 5/96, also includes the
optional PL decode board installed.

$175.00 plus shipping  charges.

E-Mail if interested
[e-mail]
Compuserve - 71242,1774        Amateur Radio - N2TYB
Ridgefield, New Jersey




From [e-mail] Wed Oct 30 06:58:06 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Daniel M. Conti)
Subject: FS : AOR AR 8000, MINT - Cell Mod.
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AOR AR 8000 hand held scanner, in MINT condition, with AOR soft case,
manual.  The cell band is uncensored in this radio.

$500.00 shipped to 48, COD $5.00 extra
[e-mail]
Compuserve - 71242,1774        Amateur Radio - N2TYB
Ridgefield, New Jersey




From [e-mail] Wed Oct 30 06:58:07 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Daniel M. Conti)
Subject: FS : JIM  M-75 Pro series wide band pre-amp..$65.00!
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JIM  M-75 low noise, wide band GaAs FET Pre-Amplifier for sale.
Purchased brand new about a month or so ago for $119.95. Have receipt
Hardly used.
In box with manual.

$65.00 shipped to 48, COD $5.00 extra

E-Mail if interested
[e-mail]
Compuserve - 71242,1774        Amateur Radio - N2TYB
Ridgefield, New Jersey




From [e-mail] Wed Oct 30 06:58:08 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Daniel M. Conti)
Subject: FS : OPTOElectronics CX12AR interface - $65.00
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OPTOElectronics CX12AR computer interface to run AR8000 and various
other radios via computer. MINT, inbox with manual, all access.,
cables.

$65.00 shipped to 48, COD $5.00 extra

E- Mail if Interested
[e-mail]
Compuserve - 71242,1774        Amateur Radio - N2TYB
Ridgefield, New Jersey




From [e-mail] Wed Oct 30 06:58:09 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Daniel M. Conti)
Subject: FS : Radio Shack Pro-2006, MINT, W/Cell mod - $275.00
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Radio Shack Pro-2006 scanner, MINT, in box with manual, Cell mod done.
$275.00 shipped to 48, COD $5.00 extra

E-Mail if interested
[e-mail]
Compuserve - 71242,1774        Amateur Radio - N2TYB
Ridgefield, New Jersey




From [e-mail] Wed Oct 30 06:58:09 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Bill Averyt)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: FS A.O.R. AR900
Date: Sat, 26 Oct 1996 14:00:36 GMT
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Handheld scanner-no frequency blocking in this unit.  Like new condition.  $20
0 firm.



From [e-mail] Wed Oct 30 06:58:10 1996
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From: Dan <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: FS Bearcat 60xlt-1
Date: Wed, 23 Oct 1996 13:16:17 -0700
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Bran new in the box never used!
 30 channel hand held.
 $85 Shipped!
 I need the money!


From [e-mail] Wed Oct 30 06:58:11 1996
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From: SKYHAWK <[e-mail]>
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Subject: FS or Trade
Date: Sat, 26 Oct 1996 17:11:12 -0700
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PRO-2035 Mint with manual
$250 + shipping

Or possibly trade for:
1.5 or higher Hard Drive
100 mhz or higher Pentium Motherboard
Printer Depending on what
Some sort of Computer set-up for my kids..Depends  Thanks TOM
--
"The SKY's the limit"
TPS 207-874-0574


From [e-mail] Wed Oct 30 06:58:12 1996
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From: [e-mail] (SteveOG1)
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Subject: FS or Trade AOR 2700
Date: 27 Oct 1996 23:15:46 -0500
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AOR 2700 one month old cellular mod, PC interface cable. asking $350.
includes shipping. or trade for a Pro-2006.


From [e-mail] Wed Oct 30 06:58:13 1996
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From: Marvin Kaminsky <[e-mail]>
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Subject: FS Pro 2035 Scanner
Date: Wed, 23 Oct 1996 09:45:23 -0700
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For sale: Radio Shack Pro 2035 desk top scanner
1000 channels
Like new in box with manual
$275

Please reply e-mail to [e-mail]


From [e-mail] Wed Oct 30 06:58:14 1996
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From: "Jim Boros" <[e-mail]>
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Subject: FS Regency TS-2
Date: 26 Oct 1996 16:06:05 GMT
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I'm selling a Regency Turboscan TS-2 scanner.   Covers 30-54, 118-174,
406-512, and 806-950 MHz (nothing blocked, 30KHz spacing where
appropriate).   Scans  40-50 channels per second.   75 channel memory in
six banks, vacuum fluorescent display.

        Asking $175 which includes shipping in 48 states.




From [e-mail] Wed Oct 30 06:58:14 1996
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From: [e-mail]
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Subject: FS:  Uniden Bearcat BC 8500XLT
Date: Sun, 27 Oct 1996 15:17:14 -0800
Organization: Pacific Bell Internet Services
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For Sale: Bearcat 8500XLT in great shape.  1000 channel and covers

        25-1300 Mhz. With manual.  $275

        reply [e-mail]    Steve


From [e-mail] Wed Oct 30 06:58:15 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Frank B.)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner,alt.radio.scanner
Subject: FS:  Yupiteru MVT-7100, Mint Now $475
Date: Mon, 28 Oct 1996 19:25:28 GMT
Organization: Teleport - Portland's Public Access [phone]
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Yupiteru MVT-7100 Radio Scanner.

   100Khz-1650Mhz Continous Coverage
   Mint condition,  hardly used.
   All original:  Docs, box, AC Adapter, Belt clip, Car adapter,
        Telescopic Antenna, 4 AA nicad batteries, and Carry strap.

==$475.00    Shipped


Frank Bernardi  ([e-mail])
Oregon



From [e-mail] Wed Oct 30 06:58:17 1996
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From: Brian Varine <[e-mail]>
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Subject: FS: BC200XLT
Date: Tue, 22 Oct 1996 07:00:34 -0700
Organization: Oregon State University
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For Sale:

Unider/Bearcat BC200XLT
200 channels
30-50MHz
118-172MHz
406-512MHz
806-956MHz (Includes Cell!)

INcludes:
Manual,
carrying soft case,
rubber duck antenna,
A/C Charger
Free access to the Oregon Electronic Order of Battle;-)

Mods complete:
Cell and Light Mod

Asking price $155---I pay shipping.


==============================================================================
Brian R. Varine <[e-mail]>                     Finger for PGP Key
http://www.orst.edu/~varineb                               When in doubt,
Stop Highway Robbery! http://www.motorists.com               -=JAM IT=-





From [e-mail] Wed Oct 30 06:58:18 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Sarid Shefet)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner,alt.radio.scanner,rec.radio.swap
Subject: Re: FS: BC200XLT
Date: Tue, 22 Oct 1996 10:47:14 -0400
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 Same conditions !
Asking price
 $150                 I pay shipping.
-----

--
 _________________________
 Sarid Shefet
 Department of Food Science
 North Carolina State University
  [e-mail]
 http://www4.ncsu.edu/unity/users/s/s_shefet/www/index.html
 _________________________
 "DOS Computers manufactured by companies such as IBM, Compaq, Tandy, and
millions of others are by far the most popular, with about 70 million
machines in use wordwide. Macintosh fans, on the other hand, may note that
cockroaches are far more numerous than humans, and that numbers alone do
not denote a higher life form."
                  (New York Times, November 26, 1991)
 _________________________


From [e-mail] Wed Oct 30 06:58:19 1996
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From: [e-mail]
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: FS: Bearcat 890xlt w/PL
Date: 21 Oct 96 09:42:07 EDT
Organization: University of Pittsburgh
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For Sale: Bearcat 890xlt with PL Board.  The radio is excellent condition
includes original box, owners manual and all accessories.  This is a first
generation model and the 800 mhz can be opened up.  I did not need this
option so it was never preformed.  Asking price $250.00 plus shipping
Thanks -Dan- KE3UC


From [e-mail] Wed Oct 30 06:58:20 1996
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From: [e-mail]
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: FS: Bearcat 890xlt w/PL
Date: 23 Oct 96 08:47:41 EDT
Organization: University of Pittsburgh
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Fore Sale: Bearcat 890xlt w/PL.  The radio is in excellent condition,
includes original box, owners manual, and all accessories.  This is a first
generation model and can be cell modified if you so desire. Asking price is
$250.00 plus shipping.  Thanks in advance -Dan- KE3UC


From [e-mail] Wed Oct 30 06:58:21 1996
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From: [e-mail]
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: FS: Bearcat 890xlt w/Pl
Date: 24 Oct 96 12:59:12 EDT
Organization: University of Pittsburgh
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From: [e-mail]
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: FS: Bearcat 890xlt w/PL
Date: 23 Oct 96 08:47:41 EDT
Organization: University of Pittsburgh
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For Sale: Bearcat 890xlt w/PL.  The radio is in excellent condition,
includes original box, owners manual, and all accessories.  This is a first
generation model and can be cell modified if you so desire. Asking price is
$250.00 plus shipping.  Thanks in advance -Dan- KE3UC


From [e-mail] Wed Oct 30 06:58:21 1996
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From: [e-mail](BAYCITVIDGRP)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: FS: Bearcat 890xlt w/Pl
Date: 24 Oct 1996 17:54:04 GMT
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In <54o79p$[e-mail]> [e-mail] writes:
>
>

>
>For Sale: Bearcat 890xlt w/PL.  The radio is in excellent condition,
>includes original box, owners manual, and all accessories.  This is a
first
>generation model and can be cell modified if you so desire. Asking
price is
>$250.00 plus shipping.  Thanks in advance -Dan- KE3UC


   to owners of:   this scanner.

    How do you find this scanner for its efficacy ....?
    I have had this 890xlt for about three years now
    and i find it to be the most putrid-working unit
    I have...and I have plenty scanners to compare.

    It's only good on the low freq range...but put
    it to the test on others and nada, nope-response,
    negative, major no-no, bust my b...s gist, nothing
    happening here....

    Even the 800's are "lousy with interference" off
    all four antennae and with an indoor 800 fixture
    piece.

    so how is this unit rated by users in areas other
     than the East Bay Area of the San FranciscoBay
     Area in California.....

    bill conduit
    etc.


From [e-mail] Wed Oct 30 06:58:23 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Michael Alexander)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: FS: Bearcat 890xlt w/Pl
Date: Fri, 25 Oct 1996 16:25:21 -0400
Organization: Kersur Technologies
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In article <54oafs$[e-mail]>,
[e-mail](BAYCITVIDGRP) wrote:

> In <54o79p$[e-mail]> [e-mail] writes:
> >
> >
>
> >
> >For Sale: Bearcat 890xlt w/PL.  The radio is in excellent condition,
> >includes original box, owners manual, and all accessories.  This is a
> first
> >generation model and can be cell modified if you so desire. Asking
> price is
> >$250.00 plus shipping.  Thanks in advance -Dan- KE3UC
>
>
>    to owners of:   this scanner.
>
>     How do you find this scanner for its efficacy ....?
>     I have had this 890xlt for about three years now
>     and i find it to be the most putrid-working unit
>     I have...and I have plenty scanners to compare.
>
>     It's only good on the low freq range...but put
>     it to the test on others and nada, nope-response,
>     negative, major no-no, bust my b...s gist, nothing
>     happening here....
>
>     Even the 800's are "lousy with interference" off
>     all four antennae and with an indoor 800 fixture
>     piece.
>
>     so how is this unit rated by users in areas other
>      than the East Bay Area of the San FranciscoBay
>      Area in California.....
>
>     bill conduit
>     etc.

Well, I'm glad that I'm not selling this scanner. With an "endorsement"
like this one, I'm sure there will be many offers!

--
Michael Alexander
[e-mail]


From [e-mail] Wed Oct 30 06:58:24 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Greg LaP.)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: FS: freqs. for N.S.
Date: Mon, 28 Oct 1996 14:48:19 GMT
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 Moving around the province or just got that new scanner.
         HALLOWEEN IS HERE  !!!!!!!
Don't be fooled by the frequencies that some people give you, be sure
! ! !
I have two of the latest lists of frequencies for Nova Scotia.  From
2 Mhz to 23.4 Ghz.  I can land mail a diskette, e-mail you the two
lists for only  $10.00.  Each list is about 1 Meg long (200 pages).
These lists are far better than those $ 24.95 Scanner Books out there.
E-mail me to get these lists now and to get info on how to get these
lists in time for HALLOWEEN ! ! ! ! !

                        Greg
                        [e-mail]




From [e-mail] Wed Oct 30 06:58:25 1996
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From: Steve Giron <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: FS: PRO 2006 w/OPTO 456 Board
Date: Thu, 24 Oct 1996 00:10:23 -0700
Organization: A. O. P. A.
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Radio Shack PRO-2006 with Optoscan 456 computer interface installed.

This radio is in very, very clean condition. I'll include Scancat Gold
as well.

$500.00 shipped to you.


[e-mail]


From [e-mail] Wed Oct 30 06:58:26 1996
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From: [e-mail] (D Baugh)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: FS: PRO-32A
Date: 22 Oct 1996 18:08:32 GMT
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Scanner for sale
Radio Shack PRO-32A handheld scanner for sale.  Great condition, in original b
ox with owners manual and AC adapter.  200 Channels.  Cost $300 new, about 7 y
ears ago.
Will sell for $125.

e-mail if interested.
[e-mail]



From [e-mail] Wed Oct 30 06:58:27 1996
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From: Howard Brayman <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: FS: PRO-43 with cell mod
Date: Tue, 22 Oct 1996 09:11:53 -0400
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For Sale:

Radio Shack PRO-43 with cellular modification.
Includes ac adapter/charger and manual.

Price: $215.  Includes shipping (continental US).

[e-mail]  716-722-0068 (days)

Howard Brayman


From [e-mail] Wed Oct 30 06:58:28 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Sarid Shefet)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: FS: PRO-43 with cell mod
Date: Tue, 22 Oct 1996 10:55:22 -0400
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Will sell the same for $ 210

--
 _________________________
 Sarid Shefet
 Department of Food Science
 North Carolina State University
  [e-mail]
 http://www4.ncsu.edu/unity/users/s/s_shefet/www/index.html
 _________________________
 "DOS Computers manufactured by companies such as IBM, Compaq, Tandy, and
millions of others are by far the most popular, with about 70 million
machines in use wordwide. Macintosh fans, on the other hand, may note that
cockroaches are far more numerous than humans, and that numbers alone do
not denote a higher life form."
                  (New York Times, November 26, 1991)
 _________________________


From [e-mail] Wed Oct 30 06:58:28 1996
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From: [e-mail] (cpocklington)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: FS: PRO-51... great condition
Date: 29 Oct 1996 16:59:40 GMT
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200 channel Direct Entry Programmable Scanner

29-29.7 mhz (ham radio 10m)
29.7-50 mhz (VHF Lo)
50-54 mhz (ham radio 6m)
108-136.975 mhz (aircraft)
137-144 mhz (government)
144-148 mhz (ham radio 2m)
148-174 mhz (VHF Hi)
406-450 mhz (ham radio and government)
450-470 mhz (UHF standard)
470-512 mhz (UHF "T" band)
806-823.9375 mhz (public service)
851-868.9375 mhz (UHF Hi)
896.1125-956 mhz (UHF Hi)

Band search
2-Second Scan Delay
Memory Backup
Lock-Out Function
Priority Channel
Ten Channel-Storage Banks
Monitior Memories
Frequency Search

No mods done to unit

Bought March 1996, used infrequently, great condition...
includes NiCads, plug-in charger, earphone

retails 299.99  will sell for $230.00 plus you pay COD charges...
[e-mail]



From [e-mail] Wed Oct 30 06:58:29 1996
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From: Doug <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner,rec.radio.swap
Subject: FS: Radio Shack 2027 Full 800 Scanner.
Date: Sun, 27 Oct 1996 07:38:25 -0700
Organization: DiscoverNet, Inc.
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FS: Radio Shack 2027 Full 800 Scanner. This is a DESKTOP unit running on
AC power.  100 memory channels, vhf & uhf hi-lo-air plus full coverage
of the 800 mhz band, Yes Cellular.

In great shape $125.00 you pay the shipping.

--
*************************************************************************
                                Doug Miles
        email:          [e-mail]
        Homepage:       http://www.discover.net/~ko6tx/

        Packet:         ko6tx@w6jbt.#soca.ca.usa.noam
        Tcp/ip:         [e-mail] [44.18.0.148]

        Fax:            [phone]


From [e-mail] Wed Oct 30 06:58:30 1996
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From: [e-mail] (DMeans7115)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: FS: Radio Shack freq. counter
Date: 28 Oct 1996 01:51:09 -0500
Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364)
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EMAIL ME ---
WOULD LIKE TO KNOW MORE ABOUT THIS...

THANX
DAN
CONCIDER BUYING IT FOR MYSELF
[e-mail]
(OHIO)


From [e-mail] Wed Oct 30 06:58:31 1996
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From: Ryan J Snodgrass <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: alt.radio.scanner,cmu.misc.market,rec.radio.scanner
Subject: FS: Uniden Bearcat BC100-XLT
Date: Tue, 22 Oct 1996 08:11:04 -0400
Organization: Senior, Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
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I have a Uniden Bearcat BC100-XLT scanner with 10 channels/bank, 10
banks.  It is possible to upgrade the memory on this to have 20
channels/bank.  This is a pretty common scanner.  I have the manuals,
carrying case and charger.  Make me an offer!
Ryan
--



From [e-mail] Wed Oct 30 06:58:32 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Greg LaP.)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: FS:Crystals
Date: Mon, 28 Oct 1996 14:51:37 GMT
Organization: Seimac Limited
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 I have these crystals (for Realistic scanners) for sale:

                                        154.620 Mhz   QTY OF 9
                                        154.710 Mhz                 8
                                        167.730     "                 10
                                        169.465      "             6
                                        162.850      "                 3

        $ 5.00 cdn ea. or 3 for $10.00 cdn

                                Thanks,
                                Greg
                                [e-mail]




From [e-mail] Wed Oct 30 06:58:33 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Lawrence M. Koga)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: FS:Pro-34
Date: 26 Oct 1996 02:43:30 GMT
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Oldie but a goodie.  $ 125.00+shipping

What's wrong with it.

The keyboard legend is missing.  All you have is the keys but, no
legends(0,1,2...prog, enter,speed, etc)

It has not been modified.  It can be.

Lawrence


From [e-mail] Wed Oct 30 06:58:34 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Garfoon)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: FS:Welz WS-1000E Scanner
Date: 21 Oct 1996 13:04:30 -0400
Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364)
Lines: 14
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Welz WS-1000E 500-1300mhz scanner

Full coverage including cell. As new in box with docs.

About the size of a deck of playing cards.

$400 or best offer + shipping and COD


~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Time flies like an arrow.....
fruit flies like a banana.

Groucho Marx


From [e-mail] Wed Oct 30 06:58:34 1996
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From: Rick Solis <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.swap,rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.scanner
Subject: GE PCS-Scan Radio for Sale
Date: Sun, 27 Oct 1996 10:14:53 -0600
Organization: Athens-Limestone Emergency Medical Services
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For Sale: PCS-Scan radio package.
Used but in good condition.
16 Channel GE PCS Radio with Scan- VHF BAND
2 Batteries / Rapid Charger
3/4 wave and stubby antennae
Alligator and swivel clips
Shoulder mike

I can program it prior to shipping if needed.

Reply by E-mail; please do not post to group.
--
Rick Solis NREMT-P
[e-mail]
Athens-Limestone Emergency Medical Services
"Oh, bother" said Pooh as he took the ET out of the esophagus...
--
Rick Solis NREMT-P
Athens-Limestone Emergency Medical Services
"Oh, bother" said Pooh as he took the ET out of the esophagus...


From [e-mail] Wed Oct 30 06:58:35 1996
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From: Rick Solis <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.swap,rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: GE PCS-Scan Radio for Sale
Date: Sun, 27 Oct 1996 10:53:52 -0600
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Rick Solis wrote:
>
> For Sale: PCS-Scan radio package.
> Used but in good condition.
> 16 Channel GE PCS Radio with Scan- VHF BAND
> 2 Batteries / Rapid Charger
> 3/4 wave and stubby antennae
> Alligator and swivel clips
> Shoulder mike
>
> I can program it prior to shipping if needed.
>
> Reply by E-mail; please do not post to group.
> --

I apologize for posting to the wrong group. Please disregard...
--
Rick Solis NREMT-P
Athens-Limestone Emergency Medical Services
"Oh, bother" said Pooh as he took the ET out of the esophagus...


From [e-mail] Wed Oct 30 06:58:36 1996
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From: Ron M <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: GeeWhiz (Scanner Master)
Date: Fri, 25 Oct 1996 07:40:34 -0700
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To: NYO41ed <[e-mail]>

NYO41ed wrote:
>
> Kevin wrote:<<I am interested in hearing from anyone having experiences
> with a product called "GeeWhiz" ? from ScannerMaster. I'm not certain if
> this is the
> correct name for the product though. I think it is similar to the Comsec
> SA-78 ?
>
> Thanks in advance --
> Kevin Fisher >>
>
> Well, I have the Comsec unit, and yeah it works but I am not 100%
> satisfied, and by all means it's no panacia.

I have the SA-80 unit which you should have along with the SA-78 or at
least the SA-80. The 78 eliminates the beeps but does nothing for the
buzz. The 80 eliminates the buzz about 80% which is much better than
listening without. I haven`t opened the pkg on unit and is new. Sell for
$35.
The G/WIZ works very good and I would also reccomend it to users as one
unit doing both the 78 and 80 all in one.
Ron


From [e-mail] Wed Oct 30 06:58:37 1996
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From: "Hotfoot" <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Good Items for sale
Date: 27 Oct 1996 23:24:31 GMT
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FOR SALE:

Pro-39 Scanner- Handheld 200 channel, unblocked 800 mhz, Good shape $175

Pro-23 Scanner-Handheld 50 channel,  800 mhz (not unblocked for cell), Good
shape $125

Please contact me at [e-mail]

1 Item for a friend...

KENWOOD TR-9000

2 Meter all mode. 10 watts out. Good shape and in good working condition

for this item please contact [e-mail]

Thx
JL


From [e-mail] Wed Oct 30 06:58:38 1996
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From: [e-mail] (N5OFF)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Good Service from Uniden
Date: 29 Oct 1996 21:04:41 -0500
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I sent my 9000XLT off to Uniden for warranty service on a quirky tuning
knob.

They only kept it about 2 days, and returned it in great working
condition, programming preserved.

Good service.

Tom


From [e-mail] Wed Oct 30 06:58:39 1996
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From: [e-mail] (DMeans7115)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: GOVT. FREQ?
Date: 28 Oct 1996 01:46:17 -0500
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I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE FREQ.- ANY GOVT. LAW ENFORMENT AGENCY (U.S. GOVT.)
PLEASE EMAIL...

THANX
DAN
[e-mail]
(OHIO)


From [e-mail] Wed Oct 30 06:58:40 1996
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From: Allen Hunt <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: GRID Laptop Computer
Date: 22 Oct 1996 11:51:41 GMT
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Hello Everybody:
     I'am looking to buy a GRID laptop computer.  If anybody is selling
one, please email me what you may have ASAP.

Allen
[e-mail]



From [e-mail] Wed Oct 30 06:58:40 1996
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From: [e-mail]
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: gsm
Date: Mon, 28 Oct 1996 16:34:53 GMT
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kristian jonsson <[e-mail]> wrote:

>hello!
>Does anyone now how to listen to Gsm mobile phones?Are there anyone who has e
lectric
>things to "listening to gsm".

>[e-mail]




From [e-mail] Wed Oct 30 06:58:41 1996
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From: NewsRadio <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Halton Police goes 800 this week
Date: Fri, 25 Oct 1996 20:54:01 -0700
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Halton Regional Police in Ontario, Canada, consisting of the towns of
Oakville, Burlington, Milton, Georgetown, and Acton has moved over to
their new 800 Mhz trunking system. As of today, they are still
simulcasting on the old VHF frequencies. So far, 5 800 Mhz frequencies
have been monitored in the new system, and only the police are on the
system so far. Public works, fire, transit, etc will be migrating over in
the future.

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and Broadcast Engineering Page:
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From [e-mail] Wed Oct 30 06:58:42 1996
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From: [e-mail] (D Stark)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Halton Police goes 800 this week
Date: Mon, 28 Oct 96 18:25:31 GMT
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In article <[e-mail]>, NewsRadio <[e-mail]> wrote
:
>Halton Regional Police in Ontario, Canada, consisting of the towns of
>Oakville, Burlington, Milton, Georgetown, and Acton has moved over to
>their new 800 Mhz trunking system. As of today, they are still
>simulcasting on the old VHF frequencies. So far, 5 800 Mhz frequencies
>have been monitored in the new system, and only the police are on the
>system so far. Public works, fire, transit, etc will be migrating over in
>the future.

The exact frequencies are listed at
http://www.frontiernet.net/~dstark/on_halt.html

73 de Dave, NF2G


From [e-mail] Wed Oct 30 06:58:43 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Bjorn Brown)
Subject: Haruteq Scanner Book
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
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Date: Fri, 25 Oct 1996 19:18:11 GMT
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Does anyone have info. on the Haruteq scanner book?  I have the September
1995 edition.  I was under the impression that it was published
annually.  Is the new one out yet?
--
==BJORN R. BROWN==============
 Mississauga, Ontario, Canada
 E-MAIL: [e-mail]
==============================


From [e-mail] Wed Oct 30 06:58:44 1996
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From: [e-mail] (DMeans7115)
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Subject: Re: Haruteq Scanner Book
Date: 28 Oct 1996 01:41:54 -0500
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I also would like information on this - please.

email me

thanx - Dan
[e-mail]
(OHIO)


From [e-mail] Wed Oct 30 06:58:45 1996
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From: Vegard ╪stengen <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Help ! Directional, Portable scanner for 10-100MHz.....
Date: Fri, 25 Oct 1996 15:10:17 +0200
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Hi..

I'm looking for an directional, protable scanner for the range
10-100MHz. All trafic types of interest but FM and SSB cruital.
I guess the best way is to use a hand helt antenna, not very big,
but it will have to be good..

If anybody know of scanners that with the right antenna will make a
great mach send me a mail...

Vegard
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From [e-mail] Wed Oct 30 06:58:46 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Richard Songhurst)
Newsgroups: alt.cellular.gsm,alt.cellular.oki,alt.cellular.oki.900,alt.cellular.tech,alt.cellular-phone-tech,alt.radio.scanner,rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Help Please!! with DiamondTel 92 Transportable (Mitsubishi)
Date: 25 Oct 1996 14:37:11 -0700
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On 25 Oct 1996 14:05:02 GMT, "Brian T. Pacchetti" <[e-mail]>
wrote:
: Hello and thank you for reading,

: I have a DiamondTel (Mitsubishi) 92 Transportable that I whish to modify to
: as a extention phone. To date I have been able to locate a prom on the main
: board and
: read, however the ESN number that I wish to modify is not obvious within
: this 28 pin
: chip. Is the ESN number located within this chip on the main board? Or is
: the ESN
: located on a chip by its self? If so where is its location and how is it
: identified?

: Any help locating the ESN number so to change, I would apreciate any and
: all advise
: on this subject. If after reading you can not help, a point in the right
: direction of someone whom might would be apreciated as well.

: Thanks in advance,

: Brian,           [e-mail]

I would strongly advise against any attempt to change the E.S.N. or any other
operational aspect of cellular phones. To do so is a violation of U.S. and
Canadian Law. You're cellular carrier may provide a second phone capability
on your current M.I.N. without changing the ESN on your second unit. Of
course they will charge you for it!

--
--


From [e-mail] Wed Oct 30 06:58:47 1996
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From: "Brian T. Pacchetti" <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Help Please!! with DiamondTel 92 Transportable (Mitsubishi)
Date: 25 Oct 1996 14:05:02 GMT
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Hello and thank you for reading,

I have a DiamondTel (Mitsubishi) 92 Transportable that I whish to modify to
as a extention phone. To date I have been able to locate a prom on the main
board and
read, however the ESN number that I wish to modify is not obvious within
this 28 pin
chip. Is the ESN number located within this chip on the main board? Or is
the ESN
located on a chip by its self? If so where is its location and how is it
identified?

Any help locating the ESN number so to change, I would apreciate any and
all advise
on this subject. If after reading you can not help, a point in the right
direction of someone whom might would be apreciated as well.

Thanks in advance,

Brian,           [e-mail]





From [e-mail] Wed Oct 30 06:58:48 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Mike Bolton)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: HELP! New cordless phone freqs????
Date: Tue, 29 Oct 96 19:29:50 -0500
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Does anyone have the frequencies for the 900mhz cordless
phones??

I monitored 902 - 928 with 5khz step on an AOR 1500 while useing
one of these phones and I still couldn't pick anything up!!!!!




From [e-mail] Wed Oct 30 06:58:49 1996
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From: "Robert H. Eisner" <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: HELP! New cordless phone freqs????
Date: Tue, 29 Oct 1996 23:38:40 -0500
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To: Mike Bolton <[e-mail]>

Mike Bolton wrote:
>
> Does anyone have the frequencies for the 900mhz cordless
> phones??
>
> I monitored 902 - 928 with 5khz step on an AOR 1500 while useing
> one of these phones and I still couldn't pick anything up!!!!!

Check out the following URL

 http://www.srs-rf.com/scanref.htm#PORT

Bob


From [e-mail] Wed Oct 30 06:58:50 1996
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From: Rich Wells <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Help:  Pro-60 Scanner
Date: Wed, 23 Oct 1996 06:31:46 -0400
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Short of reseting the CPU I do not think this is possible; they can
only be over-written. Why do you ask?

Strong signals,
Rich Wells
>>> Please direct e-mail to [e-mail]! <<<
N2MCA
Owner : Pro-34/43/60/26/2006/2042 BC-3000/9000 AR-8000 MVT-7100 R-1
Former Owner : Pro-51 BCT-7 BC-8500
North Carolina editor
The Scanner Club
http://www.enter.net/~jheller/scanclub.html

John Whiten wrote:
>
> How do I clear out one of the MONITOR memory channels?


From [e-mail] Wed Oct 30 06:58:50 1996
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From: [e-mail]
Newsgroups: alt.radio.scanner,rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Here they are "Secret Service Frequencys"you asked for them.
Date: Tue, 22 Oct 96 21:26:11 GMT
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171.290,164.100,164.400,166.215,166.515,167.025,167.900,168.200,168.220,168.40
0,
170.150,407.450,408.200,407.750,418.350,407.850,415.700,407.875,415.750,408.20
0,
407.450,415.450,415.700,407.850,419.075,163.170,165.790.These were active when

the President visited here two weeks ago.These are also limosine and bus
frequencies associated with the President and Vice President.



From [e-mail] Wed Oct 30 06:58:52 1996
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From: [e-mail] (John Doty)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave,rec.radio.amateur.space,rec.radio.scanner
Subject: HETE Spacecraft
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The High Energy Transient Experiment (HETE) Spacecraft is currently
scheduled for launch on October 29, 1996 from Wallops Island on a
Pegasus rocket. Our low rate VHF (137.96 MHz) data transmitter on
board may be of interest to radio hobbyists. This data stream will
be used for spacecraft status messages and to notify astronomical
observers of gamma ray burst positions in real time. This data may
be received with relatively simple equipment.

The planned orbit is ~540 km altitude, 38 degrees inclination. The
other elements depend on the launch date and time. The first
northgoing equator crossing should occur at around 164 degrees east
longitude on the Earth, about 4300 seconds after the release of
Pegasus from the launch aircraft (nominally 1700 UT).

VHF signals will be weak for the first few hours, as the VHF antenna
is stowed with the solar panels, which will not release until we
have adequate control of spacecraft angular momentum.

For information on receiving the VHF data, visit:

http://space.mit.edu/HETE/VHFlistening.html

For general information on HETE, visit:

http://space.mit.edu/HETE/

John Doty, HETE Project Scientist

--
John Doty               "You can't confuse me, that's my job."
[e-mail]


From [e-mail] Wed Oct 30 06:58:52 1996
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From: "Mark J. Maresca" <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Hudson County, NJ Frequencies?
Date: Mon, 28 Oct 1996 11:05:32 -0500
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I'm a newbie to scanning so excuse me if this is an obvious question:

Where can I find a list of frequencies (police, fire, marine, etc.) for
Hudson County and the surrounding areas?

Thanks, Mark J. Maresca
Secaucus, NJ
<[e-mail]>


From [e-mail] Wed Oct 30 06:58:53 1996
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From: [e-mail]
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Hudson County, NJ Frequencies?
Date: 29 OCT 96 21:52:30 GMT
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In a previous article, "Mark J. Maresca" <[e-mail]> wrote:
->I'm a newbie to scanning so excuse me if this is an obvious question:
->
->Where can I find a list of frequencies (police, fire, marine, etc.) for
->Hudson County and the surrounding areas?
->
->Thanks, Mark J. Maresca
->Secaucus, NJ
-><[e-mail]>


Mark,
Get the Scanner Master NY/NJ 6th. Edition, it will have just about everything
you will need. Contact them at 800-722-6701.
Or, at the very least, pick up a NJ Police Call at your local Rat Shack.
Have Fun,
Phil


From [e-mail] Wed Oct 30 06:58:54 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Bcheekego)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: I am a POOPYHEAD, flush me down the toilet!!
Date: 29 Oct 1996 13:09:48 -0500
Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364)
Lines: 16
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Message-ID: <555h9c$[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail] (Bcheekego)
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I am a poopyhead, and I think that I am a great menace to society.  I am
an old fart that has nothing better to do that to stick my ying/yanger
betwixt my leggies and walk around the house like that all day long until
I am relieved of my pressures.

I understand that I have loyal followers and loyal depisers, but that fact
is I simplipoopity don't give a wiggumity flibbity flabbity fargin hoot
for either of the two.

I fly solo whenever I can.

bcheekego

I have no relation to that other guy.

My name is B'chee Kego and I'm from France.


From [e-mail] Wed Oct 30 06:58:56 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Richard Kendrick)
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Subject: I am Mackey, hear me whine
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Mackey, in reviewing your postings of the last few months,
one glaring point has surfaced. The ratio of content to quantity
is profoundly small. Lots and lots of noise, but no substance.
That is unless you are substituting invective for substance.

I suppose in person you might be a pleasant chap. But, the
person you've shown yourself to be here is a sad and
pathetic wretch. Much like someone who is starved for
attention and is willing to endure the wrath of others
in order to get some form, any form of attention. Perhaps,
you are in love with the sound of your own voice and you are
doing the cyberspace equivalent with the massive volume
of your vacuous postings.

No matter. The alt.radio.scanner and rec.radio.scanner
newsgroups have really suffered enough of this spirited
discussion. You have wasted more bandwidth with your
inane bombast than all the other participants combined.
Your actions indicate you really want a monologue with
yourself, not a dialogue with the residents of the
newsgroups. Contentedly, I comply with your request.

There is a Buddhist koan that asks what is the sound
of one hand clapping. A more topic specific version
might be what is the sound of a Mackey posting to
himself.


Richard Kendrick CET WA7TWI           |
Amateur Radio Extra Class             |  Do not adjust your mind, there
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From [e-mail] Wed Oct 30 06:58:57 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Glen Quarnstrom)
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[e-mail] (Richard Kendrick) wrote:

<lenghty tirade, complete with name-calling, deleted>

>No matter. The alt.radio.scanner and rec.radio.scanner
>newsgroups have really suffered enough of this spirited
>discussion. You have wasted more bandwidth with your

[...]

>There is a Buddhist koan that asks what is the sound
>of one hand clapping. A more topic specific version
>might be what is the sound of a Mackey posting to
>himself.

What is your point, except to further fan the flames?  Cheek has
backed off.  If Mackey doesn't back off, killfile him.  Problem
solved.

You have just contributed to stirring the pot by addressing a problem
that seems well on the way to being solved.
--
[e-mail]

"General statements are as valid as specific ones." ...Bill Cheek 8/11/95


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From: John Mackey---KA0SSF <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: I am Mackey, hear me whine
Date: Mon, 28 Oct 1996 20:24:12 -0800
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Richard Kendrick wrote:
>
> Mackey, in reviewing your postings of the last few months,
> one glaring point has surfaced. The ratio of content to quantity
> is profoundly small. Lots and lots of noise, but no substance.

Then why are you trying to stir things up again?

Why don't you shut up & spend your time trying to become a man.



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From: [e-mail](BAYCITVIDGRP)
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In <[e-mail]> John Mackey---KA0SSF <[e-mail]>
writes:
>
>Richard Kendrick wrote:
>>
>> Mackey, in reviewing your postings of the last few months,
>> one glaring point has surfaced. The ratio of content to quantity
>> is profoundly small. Lots and lots of noise, but no substance.
>
>Then why are you trying to stir things up again?
>
>Why don't you shut up & spend your time trying to become a man.
>
     Fellahs....fellati..'s

     Now that I got your attention:

     The IDIOT OF MACKEY needs your response to be assimilated into
     the Main-poop of society.  He needs RESPONSES.  He needs to be
     who you make him out to be so he can be the shit he is.  He is
     valid because you (and Me here, I guess) make him so....kindly
     think about what you are doing.  You are giving dying dried-up
     shit water to survive by and remain smelling shit.

     Members of a better way....unite and no longer excite the IDIOT
     of MACKEY to show us his peculiar prepubescent character.

     Your posts keep him alive.  Quit and he will not survive.
     Your angst at him he lives for.  No more.

     I know he's the things we throw peanuts at because he was hit
     hard by an ugly stick....but enough is over already with this
     odiferous non-being.

     Quit posting about him and you deny him existence...he needs you
     badly in order to be the IDIOT OF MACKEY.  NO MORE is the sign on
     the door.

     Allow him to be blown away when the wind clears the air for
humanity and anyone else who understands.

     bill conduit
     etc. guy....

     loved that post by the other cheeks guy....what a combo.


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Subject: ICOM R 7000 FOR SALE FULL CELLULAR
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This unit is 6 years old and in perfect working order.Don`t miss the
chance of a lifetime to own the best scanner ever made.



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From: [e-mail] (Bob Parnass, AJ9S)
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In article <01bbc48f$67ea5b00$e14446c7@thomas>,
netnews.worldnet.att.net <[e-mail]> wrote:

        >Does anybody have info on the new Icom R-8500 receiver?

My email response to you bounced.

You can obtain R8500 information directly from ICOM or read the
advertisements in the hobby press.  Shortwave, a British magazine
available at Borders book stores (USA), published a multipage,
qualitative review in a recent issue.

November 1996 Monitoring Times magazine contains Bob Grove's
high level comparison of the R8500 versus an AOR AR5000.

I've tested both models, bought an Icom R8500, and like using it.
Bob Grove had a problem with the R8500 he used overloading from
an S9+40 db FM broadcaster, but mine works well and I've not
experienced overload or intermod problems to date.  It's sensitive
and easy to use.

That said, the R8500 lacks a few features, e.g. a 30 kHz bandwidth,
and you can't defeat the rescan delay using the front panel controls.

My quantitative AR5000 and R8500 reviews should appear in the 12/96
and 1/97 issues of Monitoring Times.
--
==============================================================================
Copyright 1996, Bob Parnass, AJ9S                        [e-mail]

        Locate & identify transmitters in your area with RadioMap(tm)


From [e-mail] Wed Oct 30 06:59:02 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Michael Schuster)
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Subject: Re: Is the AR8000 all its cracked up to be ???
Date: 26 Oct 1996 21:49:19 -0400
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In article <[e-mail]>,
Sid James <[e-mail]> wrote:
>Recently bought an AR8000 and I must admit its good.
>Its got so many things you can do that after 3 weeks i'm still
>referring to the manual.
>Computer control is brilliant.
>Now to the important bits......Reception.
>
>1. Its supposed to have a ferrite rod in, to make am stations better.
>........If i ever hear one I will let you know.

        Rule Number One: you don't buy a scanner to listen to MW.

>2. Reception using a lead pencil is better than the supplied aerial.

        Rule Number Two: bundled antennas get tossed into the box.

>3. Breakthrough on the Civil Air band 118-132 Mhz.
>   I thought this was because I was using a discone. Its certainly
>noisier with the discone but still audible when using a vhf rubber
>duck.

        I get TV channel 2 at the top of the cordless phone band.
        Nothing's perfect.

>4. Audio clipping on cellular when someone shouts.
>   This is the one radio where this has been a problem.

        The IF bandwidth in FM-N is just a little too narrow.

--
Mike Schuster           |       [e-mail]
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From: [e-mail] (Sid James)
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Subject: Is the AR8000 all its cracked up to be ???
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Recently bought an AR8000 and I must admit its good.
Its got so many things you can do that after 3 weeks i'm still
referring to the manual.
Computer control is brilliant.
Now to the important bits......Reception.

1. Its supposed to have a ferrite rod in, to make am stations better.
........If i ever hear one I will let you know.

2. Reception using a lead pencil is better than the supplied aerial.

3. Breakthrough on the Civil Air band 118-132 Mhz.
   I thought this was because I was using a discone. Its certainly
noisier with the discone but still audible when using a vhf rubber
duck.

4. Audio clipping on cellular when someone shouts.
   This is the one radio where this has been a problem.
   I have/have had AR800/AR900/AR2000/AR3000A
   Aor say its a choice of Sat tone or clipping... funny my AR800
   suffered from neither !

Comments Welcome
Apart from the "Well why not sell it then" type thanks !

Sid




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From: "Jory McIntosh, KB5UBS" <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: Is the AR8000 all its cracked up to be ???
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Sid James wrote:
>
> Recently bought an AR8000 and I must admit its good.
> Its got so many things you can do that after 3 weeks i'm still
> referring to the manual.
> Computer control is brilliant.
> Now to the important bits......Reception.
>
> 1. Its supposed to have a ferrite rod in, to make am stations better.
> ........If i ever hear one I will let you know.

I have used my 8000 to listen to MW and receive 850 - KOA out of Denver
with the internal antenna, and I am in Dallas!  As well I can receive
several FAA Nav. signals in the 300 to 400 KHz area with little
difficulty.  I have also received a lowfer station that is about 30 miles
from me on 184 KHz.  Not bad considering the band coverage on this radio
and the internal antenna.
>
> 2. Reception using a lead pencil is better than the supplied aerial.I will a
gree, the ducky leaves much to be desired, but since I am a ham I
use several of my other radios duckies to improve receive in what ever
portion of the frequency range I am wanting to listen too.
>
> 3. Breakthrough on the Civil Air band 118-132 Mhz.
>    I thought this was because I was using a discone. Its certainly
> noisier with the discone but still audible when using a vhf rubber
> duck.AM reception is noisy esp if you have a computer near by.
>
> 4. Audio clipping on cellular when someone shouts.
>    This is the one radio where this has been a problem.
>    I have/have had AR800/AR900/AR2000/AR3000A
>    Aor say its a choice of Sat tone or clipping... funny my AR800
>    suffered from neither !Well nothings perfect, but at least it will reciev
e cellular after all it
is illegal to sell a scanner with cellular caps.
>
> Comments Welcome
> Apart from the "Well why not sell it then" type thanks !
>
> Sid


All in all I would say that the 8000 is an excellent scanner, sure its
got its problems, but it does everything I need it to do.

73
Jory McIntosh
KB5UBS


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From: [e-mail] (Daniel Ayers)
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Jory McIntosh, KB5UBS ([e-mail]) wrote:

: I have used my 8000 to listen to MW and receive 850 - KOA out of Denver
: with the internal antenna, and I am in Dallas!  As well I can receive
: several FAA Nav. signals in the 300 to 400 KHz area with little
: difficulty.

I'm very surprised to hear that, since the AR8000's coverage *starts* at
500kHz.  I would have expected you to have *considerable* difficulty in
receiving those signals.

Apparently the radio accepts any frequency above 100kHz as input, but coverage
starts at 500 kHz. (Refer to the various spec sheets on the WWW, I'll double
check my manual when I get home tonight - but I'm sure the above is true).

: I have also received a lowfer station that is about 30 miles
: from me on 184 KHz.  Not bad considering the band coverage on this radio
: and the internal antenna.

Not bad at all, since you're outside the coverage of the radio.  How do you
do it?

Daniel.

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Daniel Ayers ([e-mail]) wrote:

: Apparently the radio accepts any frequency above 100kHz as input, but covera
ge
: starts at 500 kHz. (Refer to the various spec sheets on the WWW, I'll double
: check my manual when I get home tonight - but I'm sure the above is true).

: : I have also received a lowfer station that is about 30 miles
: : from me on 184 KHz.  Not bad considering the band coverage on this radio
: : and the internal antenna.

What does the radio do when you enter a frequency between 100 and 500Khz?


From [e-mail] Wed Oct 30 06:59:08 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Todd Coles)
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Subject: Re: Is the AR8000 all its cracked up to be ???
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In article <553sba$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Daniel
 Ayers) wrote:
>Jory McIntosh, KB5UBS ([e-mail]) wrote:
>
>: I have used my 8000 to listen to MW and receive 850 - KOA out of Denver
>: with the internal antenna, and I am in Dallas!  As well I can receive
>: several FAA Nav. signals in the 300 to 400 KHz area with little
>: difficulty.
>
>I'm very surprised to hear that, since the AR8000's coverage *starts* at
>500kHz.  I would have expected you to have *considerable* difficulty in
>receiving those signals.
>
>Apparently the radio accepts any frequency above 100kHz as input, but coverag
e
>starts at 500 kHz. (Refer to the various spec sheets on the WWW, I'll double
>check my manual when I get home tonight - but I'm sure the above is true).
>
.....clip, clip
>Daniel.

Why would the radio acept a frequency outside the range that it can receive?
Doesn't really make sense.


Todd



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From [e-mail] Wed Oct 30 06:59:09 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Michael R. Erb)
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Date: Tue, 22 Oct 1996 08:07:01 -0400
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Dave,

I purchased a UBC3000xlt from Javiation, a few months ago. It arrived when
they said it would. They charged me what they said they would charge me
and they credited me a small amount -without question- when I "complained"
about a certain issue that wasn't made clear concerning the lack of power
adaptor.

All in all, I'd say that Javiation is about as good a place to buy
something as you're likely to find.

Michael

---


In article <[e-mail]>, "David A. Skerritt"
<[e-mail]> wrote:

> I am looking for opinions from anyone who has purchased a scanner from
> Javiation.  Also, anyone own the UBC9000XLT (i.e. the full coverage version
> of the BC9000XLT in the U.S.).  If so, what are your opinions of it.
>
> Any replys would be appreciated.
>
> Dave Skerritt - Ham: N0YFY     Internet:  [e-mail]
>
> Omaha, NE


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David A. Skerritt wrote:
>
> I am looking for opinions from anyone who has purchased a scanner from
> Javiation.  Also, anyone own the UBC9000XLT (i.e. the full coverage version
> of the BC9000XLT in the U.S.).  If so, what are your opinions of it.
>
> Any replys would be appreciated.
>
> Dave Skerritt - Ham: N0YFY     Internet:  [e-mail]
>
> Omaha, NE
I purchased a AOR AR000 from Javiaion several months ago. Johnathan
Clough was very helpful and promply and fully answered all my questions.
I think I did try his patience a little though!!!!! I highly recommend
doing business with Javiation and would not hesitate buying from them
again.


From [e-mail] Wed Oct 30 06:59:11 1996
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From: Eric Oyen <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Kiss my ass you assholes!
Date: Mon, 28 Oct 1996 00:18:47 -0700
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John Mackey-KA0SSF wrote:
>
> You assholes are starting to piss me off, and if this
> shit keeps up, I will kick some ass and make you sorry
> you ever fucked with me. This espescelly applys to
> that fool Cheek and his buttkisser buddies. I can do
> things with my computer and software that you assholes
> don't even have a clue about. Stop fucking with me or
> else you fools will pay. No more warnings! Thats it.
How are you going to do it without spending many $$$ to personally go
there and do the deed?

It has been 5 days and I didn't see post one until tonight. So, why you
now post this?

Also, it is duely noted that you have threatened (however indirectly) to
use "hacker techniques" to cause problems with our machines. I think
not. the internic security beureau takes a dim view of hackers (and
"wannabe's").

My recommendation to you is, go back under that slimy rock and stew in
your own juices. You brought this one on yourself, John boy and you are
the one that is going to have to own up to it.


From [e-mail] Wed Oct 30 06:59:12 1996
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From: "Bobby Raymer" <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: Kiss my ass you assholes!
Date: 28 Oct 1996 02:40:46 GMT
Organization: Info Avenue INTERNET Access
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Hay ASSHOLE take your bitching too 3.895.00 where the asshole net is too
air out your bitching


John Mackey-KA0SSF <[e-mail]> wrote in article
<[e-mail]>...
> Mike Mayer wrote:
>
> > In article <[e-mail]>,
> >         John Mackey-KA0SSF <[e-mail]> wrote:
> > >You assholes are starting to piss me off, and if this
> > >shit keeps up, I will kick some ass and make you sorry
>
> sni, snippy, snip
>
> > Sorry.  Could not resist your compelling challenge.
> > Mike
>
>
>
>
> It wasn't my challenge.  It was a forgery.  Try looking at the
> header & routing info.
>
>
>


From [e-mail] Wed Oct 30 06:59:13 1996
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From: John Mackey-KA0SSF <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Kiss my ass you assholes!
Date: Sun, 27 Oct 1996 13:24:28 -0700
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You assholes are starting to piss me off, and if this
shit keeps up, I will kick some ass and make you sorry
you ever fucked with me. This espescelly applys to
that fool Cheek and his buttkisser buddies. I can do
things with my computer and software that you assholes
don't even have a clue about. Stop fucking with me or
else you fools will pay. No more warnings! Thats it.



From [e-mail] Wed Oct 30 06:59:14 1996
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From: Mike Mayer <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Kiss my ass you assholes!
Date: Sun, 27 Oct 1996 23:25:35 GMT
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In article <[e-mail]>,
        John Mackey-KA0SSF <[e-mail]> wrote:

>You assholes are starting to piss me off, and if this
>shit keeps up, I will kick some ass and make you sorry
>you ever fucked with me. This espescelly

Spelled "especially" but for better grammer try "in particular".

>applys to

Applies.

>that fool Cheek and his buttkisser buddies. I can do
>things with my computer and software that you assholes
>don't even have a clue about.

Like how to make one into a lamp?

>Stop fucking with me or
>else you fools will pay. No more warnings! Thats it.

Sorry.  Could not resist your compelling challenge.

Mike




From [e-mail] Wed Oct 30 06:59:15 1996
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From: [e-mail](Steve S)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Kiss my ass you assholes!
Date: 28 Oct 1996 00:17:39 GMT
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In <550r1h$[e-mail]> Mike Mayer
<[e-mail]> writes:
>
>In article <[e-mail]>,
>       John Mackey-KA0SSF <[e-mail]> wrote:
>
>>You assholes are starting to piss me off, and if this
>>shit keeps up, I will kick some ass and make you sorry
>>you ever fucked with me. This espescelly
>
>Spelled "especially" but for better grammer try "in particular".
>
                                    "grammar" ;o)

>>applys to
>
>Applies.
>
>>that fool Cheek and his buttkisser buddies. I can do
>>things with my computer and software that you assholes
>>don't even have a clue about.
>
>Like how to make one into a lamp?
>
Or how he can hold a piece of paper up to the monitor and use it as a
fax machine.

>>Stop fucking with me or
>>else you fools will pay. No more warnings! Thats it.
>
>Sorry.  Could not resist your compelling challenge.
>
>Mike

Has anyone else missed the Cheek-Mackay flame war? Boy, this sure is
refreshing......not!

Steve S.


From [e-mail] Wed Oct 30 06:59:16 1996
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From: Eric Oyen <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: Kiss my ass you assholes!
Date: Mon, 28 Oct 1996 14:50:23 -0700
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Bobby Raymer wrote:
>
> Hay ASSHOLE take your bitching too 3.895.00 where the asshole net is too
> air out your bitching
>
> John Mackey-KA0SSF <[e-mail]> wrote in article
> <[e-mail]>...
> > Mike Mayer wrote:
> >
> > > In article <[e-mail]>,
> > >         John Mackey-KA0SSF <[e-mail]> wrote:
> > > >You assholes are starting to piss me off, and if this
> > > >shit keeps up, I will kick some ass and make you sorry
> >
> > sni, snippy, snip
> >
> > > Sorry.  Could not resist your compelling challenge.
> > > Mike
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > It wasn't my challenge.  It was a forgery.  Try looking at the
> > header & routing info.
> >
> >
> >
Actually, he should take it to 27.365 (lsb) and let the REAL idiots have
a crack at him.... HE HE!

What say you?


From [e-mail] Wed Oct 30 06:59:17 1996
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Mike Mayer wrote:
>
> In article <[e-mail]>,
>         John Mackey-KA0SSF <[e-mail]> wrote:
>
> >You assholes are starting to piss me off, and if this
> >shit keeps up, I will kick some ass and make you sorry
> >you ever fucked with me. This espescelly
>
> Spelled "especially" but for better grammer try "in particular".
>
> >applys to
>
> Applies.
>
> >that fool Cheek and his buttkisser buddies. I can do
> >things with my computer and software that you assholes
> >don't even have a clue about.
>
> Like how to make one into a lamp?
>
> >Stop fucking with me or
> >else you fools will pay. No more warnings! Thats it.
>
> Sorry.  Could not resist your compelling challenge.
>
> Mike
<wink> nice come-back. <grin>


From [e-mail] Wed Oct 30 06:59:17 1996
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From: "Karl Dahlquist" <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: KNBC Burbank Fire
Date: 25 Oct 1996 20:00:07 GMT
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There appears to be an incident at KNBC Burbank,  home of Tonight Show,
CNBC, etc.

470.2125 Verdugo Dispatch
470.1375 Tac (Fireground)

[e-mail]


From [e-mail] Wed Oct 30 06:59:18 1996
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From: Jeff Christner <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: KNBC Burbank Fire
Date: Sat, 26 Oct 1996 16:02:37 -0400
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Evan Platt wrote:
>
> The local affiliate of the Peacock network failed to strut
> it's feathers early Thursday morning October 10, 1996, due
> to a 5th alarm electrical fire. 30 Rockefeller Plaza, a 70
> story brick class 1 construction measuring 190 x 200, is the
> building that houses the studios for WNBC TV.
> (rundown cut)

> >There appears to be an incident at KNBC Burbank,  home of Tonight Show,
> >CNBC, etc.
> >
> >470.2125 Verdugo Dispatch
> >470.1375 Tac (Fireground)
> >
> >[e-mail]

I got the New York fire on my pager, as it was going on, however, I
seem to remember something coming in from California about KNBC also,
although I forget what it was.

--
Jeff C.

"There's some nationalism left in the world, but mostly it's
giant corporations who walk the earth as if it were their own."


From [e-mail] Wed Oct 30 06:59:19 1996
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From: "Karl Dahlquist" <[e-mail]>
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Subject: LA Firestorm - Mutual Aid
Date: 25 Oct 1996 16:33:47 GMT
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There is an interesting story on the National Interagency Fire Center

http://www.latimes.com/HOME/NEWS/LIFE/topstory.html

also, try

http://www.pepperdine.edu
http://www.kfwb.com

[e-mail]


From [e-mail] Wed Oct 30 06:59:20 1996
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From: "Karl Dahlquist" <[e-mail]>
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Subject: La Tuna Canyon
Date: 22 Oct 1996 22:29:41 GMT
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470.2125 Verdugo Dispatch
857.2375 LAFD
857.4375 LAFD


LOWELL AND FOOTHILL BLVD.


From [e-mail] Wed Oct 30 06:59:21 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Brian Humphrey)
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Subject: Re: La Tuna Canyon
Date: 24 Oct 1996 17:17:17 GMT
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Karl:

The La Tuna Canyon Fire was reported on 10-22-96 at 14:15 hrs. The press
narrative from our info line is as follows:

TWENTY-NINE COMPANIES OF LOS ANGELES CITY FIREFIGHTERS, THREE LAFD
HELICOPTERS AND FOUR LOS ANGELES COUNTY FIRE DEPARTMENT HANDCREWS, ALL
UNDER THE COMMAND OF LOS ANGELES CITY FIRE DEPARTMENT ASSISTANT CHIEF
RICHARD OLSEN RESPONDED TO A MAJOR EMERGENCY BRUSH FIRE NEAR 4500 NORTH
LOWELL AVENUE IN THE TUJUNGA AREA. THE FIRST COMPANIES TO ARRIVE ON SCENE
REPORTED NEARLY FIVE ACRES OF GRASS AND BRUSH BURNING ADJACENT TO THE
EASTBOUND LANES OF THE FOOTHILL FREEWAY BETWEEN LA TUNA CANYON ROAD AND
LOWELL AVENUE. THOUGH THE FIRE, FANNED BY LIGHT WINDS, QUICKLY GAINED
GROUND OVER THE STEEP AND RUGGED TERRAIN, PRECISION WATER DROPS BY THE
HELICOPTERS HELPED TO CONTROL THE BLAZE WHILE FIREFIGHTERS WITH HANDLINES
BRISKLY FLANKED THE FIRE. THEIR WELL COORDINATED EFFORTS WITH THE
HANDCREWS CONFINED THE FIRE TO LESS THAM 35 ACRES. THE FIRE WAS
EXTINGUISHED IN 3 HOURS AND ELEVEN MINUTES. NO STRUCTURES WERE THREATENED
OR DAMAGED. ONE LOS ANGELES CITY FIREFIGHTER, SUFFERING THE EFFECTS OF
HEAT EXHAUSTION WAS TRANSPORTED TO VERDUGO HILLS HOSPITAL FOR OBSERVATION.
 HE WAS TREATED AND RELEASED. THE CAUSE OF THIS FIRE IS CATEGORIZED AS
"UNDER INVESTIGATION".

<Yawn!>

Karl, as you are aware, we welcome the public to call our our taped media
info line. On this recording are daily stats as well as details of
SIGNIFICANT incidents that have occured during the PREVIOUS CALENDAR DATE.
 It is updated by 08:00 Pacific TIme each day.

The phone number is [phone]

Stay Safe!

Brian Humphrey
Public Information Officer
Los Angeles City Fire Department

http://www.ci.la.ca.us/dept/LAFD

E-Mail: <[e-mail]>



From [e-mail] Wed Oct 30 06:59:22 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Clint Bradford)
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Subject: RE:Laws on monitoring
Date: Fri, 18 Oct 1996 00:32:00 GMT
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>>I'm aware that its legal to monitor things in the 46 to 49 MHz
>>PORTABLE phone bands (but not cellular)...

You have been mis-informed.

It is against federal law to monitor either.


From [e-mail] Wed Oct 30 06:59:23 1996
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Subject: Re: Laws on monitoring
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Clint Bradford ([e-mail]) wrote:

: >>I'm aware that its legal to monitor things in the 46 to 49 MHz
: >>PORTABLE phone bands (but not cellular)...

: You have been mis-informed.

: It is against federal law to monitor either.

It's legal to monitor things in the 46-49 band as long as they're not
private telephone conversations.


From [e-mail] Wed Oct 30 06:59:24 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Ken Flanagan)
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[e-mail] (Clint Bradford) wrote:

>>>I'm aware that its legal to monitor things in the 46 to 49 MHz
>>>PORTABLE phone bands (but not cellular)...
>
>You have been mis-informed.
>
>It is against federal law to monitor either.

It should be noted that refers to U.S. federal law.  Here in Canada,
we are able to monitor any radio signal, including cellular and
portables.  It only becomes illegal if you use what you're heard for
personal gain or tell others what you have heard.



From [e-mail] Wed Oct 30 06:59:25 1996
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Subject: Looking for info
Date: Thu, 24 Oct 1996 19:03:06 GMT
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I am relatively new to scanning, I just purchased a PRO-2035, and am
looking for a good antenna, and computer interface, any suggestions
are appreciated. Is the RadioShack discone antenna a good selection or
is there another that would be a better choice? I am in somewhat of a
rural area, are there any guides as far as antenna height?
Thanks again for any help.
Garry
[e-mail]


From [e-mail] Wed Oct 30 06:59:26 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Doug Mason)
Subject: Looking for Opto Scout or Xplorer...
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Looking to make an immediate purchase (this week) of one of the following:

- Optoelectronics Scout Model 40

...or if the price is right:

- Optoelectronics Xplorer

..will do an immediate COD cash purchase (via FedEx, my expense) to whomever
can offer an excellent price ASAP.  Lowest price first time gets the deal,
any mods/accessories included taken into consideration.

Obviously I have a somewhat immediate need but don't want to pay full retail
if at all possible.  Opto has a special on the Scout at $449 with some
freebies like an antenna, carry case and the freq CD...

Please reply to this message or contact me at [e-mail].

Thanks,


--Doug



--
Doug Mason                                      [e-mail]
Nextel Communications, Inc.                     [e-mail]
TZ250, RS250R, CBR900RR, etc.                   AFM#954, WSMC#554, GLRRA#54


From [e-mail] Wed Oct 30 06:59:26 1996
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From: [e-mail] (DMeans7115)
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Subject: Re: looking for secret service freqs
Date: 22 Oct 1996 01:20:44 -0400
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do you really think the secret service, published their freq's?
If they did, Of course I would like to know them.
but I doubt it, very much
[e-mail]
(OHIO)


From [e-mail] Wed Oct 30 06:59:27 1996
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From: [e-mail] (G.Robert Arrabito)
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Subject: looking to buy a Pro-25
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I would like to buy a used Pro-25 or similar hand held scanner.
If you have one for sale then please e-mail me. Thanks.


Rob
e-mail: [e-mail]


From [e-mail] Wed Oct 30 06:59:28 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Bill Cheek)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Making PCB  Questions on photo method.
Date: Thu, 24 Oct 1996 14:42:36 GMT
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[e-mail] (Ron Katz) wrote:


>  Ok its taken me a week to finally finish by artwork and I have it
>printed with a lazer printer on Transparency Film.
>
>  I bought a UV light and all the necessary chemicals from MG.
>
>  Problem I have is when I develop, the image appears strong but,
>slowly seems to fade and the rest of the board goes purple in colour.
>
>  The image seems to wash away. What's Wrong?  The development time is
>less then 2 Min. and I'm using MG418 Positive Photoresist Developer
>and Positive PCB pre sensitized.  Developer is being mixed 1 to 6
>parts water and my light source is a 15watt UF florescent type tube
>with a regular florescent daylight tube at the same time because my
>lamp takes two. The hole thing is about 6 inches away and exposure
>times have been ranging from 2.5-5 min.
>
>  I'm also using a sheet of glass to hold the Transparency flat onto
>the board.
>
>  Should I be pulling the PCB out of the developer the second an image
>appears?
>
>When do I wipe of the purple material.
>
>Is the material that is left covering the traces not

I can't help you with most of the above because I use different processes,
but most glass absorbs UV to some extent.  Perhaps that is a contributing
factor.

Bill Cheek
Scannist Extraordinaire



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From: [e-mail] (Tomcat305)
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Subject: Malibu Fire
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Did anyone hear about the fire truck that crashed into another fire engine
and then crashed into a truck, almost killing me!!!!  I was lucky that I
didn't get hit!!!  Some glass came and hit me and cut me....It was just
horrible!!!  Well in LA times you will see my report my name is Nathan
Carrillo


From [e-mail] Wed Oct 30 06:59:30 1996
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From: [e-mail]
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Subject: Re: Manual for pro-51, pro-41
Date: Wed, 23 Oct 1996 13:15:53 GMT
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[e-mail] (Mark Krubsack) wrote:

> On 22 Oct 1996 17:23:12 GMT, [e-mail] (Rick Gerson) wrote:

>>Hi;
>>
>>I am looking for a manual for a pro-51 or pro-41
>>
>>-- or any other information on these units.

>Same for me.  I own a Pro-51 (and a Pro-2037, and Pro-2020).  Any info on
>these would be appreciated.


>
>(!!!!!)-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-(!!!!!)
>(!!!!)  +------------------------------+   (!!!!)
>(!!!)   |        Mark Krubsack         |    (!!!)
>(!!)    |------------------------------|     (!!)
>(!!)    | e-mail: [e-mail] |     (!!)

Check  the Tandy website.

                www.tandy.com





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From: [e-mail] (spannerwl7af)
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Anyone got there freqs?

Carl


From [e-mail] Wed Oct 30 06:59:32 1996
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From: Joe Makatura <[e-mail]>
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Tom Montgomery wrote:
>
> I saw an ad in October's MT for a fellow that is selling aircraft blade
> antennas for the 225-440 range. I am really interested in one of these
> and was wondering if anyone on the list has purchased one, how best to
> mount, and general comments. Also would like e-mail address of this
> fellow if anyone has one. His name is Don....
>
> Thanks very much..
>
> Monty
>
> [e-mail]
Just remember these are intended for use on the belly of an aircraft and
the radiation pattern may be undesirable if used otherwise. BTW, I'm not
blowing smoke out of my ass...12 years in the USAF has given me plenty
of experience with these antennas.

Joe


From [e-mail] Wed Oct 30 06:59:33 1996
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From: [e-mail] (tyler)
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Subject: Re: Military Aircraft on unequipped scanner
Date: 22 Oct 1996 14:33:03 GMT
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>I'm interested in receiving military aircraft signals on my scanner
>which is not capable of doing this.  Did I see a doohickey in a Grove
>catalog some time ago that you put between the antenna and the radio
>that allows the signals to be received in another frequency range?
>
>If so, how does this thing deal with the AM/FM difference?  Most
>military air transmissions are AM, right?  From what I understand, my
>scanner is only FM.

>-Chris Estes-
>
Sorry Chris, I think you are out of luck.  If your scanner had AM capability,
it would work, but FM just won't cut it.  They are down converters.  They take

a whole block of spectrum and shift it down to other frequencies.  I don't
think they are over $100, but it won't help you if you don't have the
capability to receive AM.  Tyler



From [e-mail] Wed Oct 30 06:59:34 1996
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From: Scott Smith <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Mods wanted for Kenwood 741.941,742,942 Triple Bander.
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I am looking for mods for the triple bander Kenwood. I have heard it can
handle 200 channels per band and that the 440/450 unit can be modified
for the 800 MgHz band. I would apprecitate ANY information on mods for
this radio. I am putting all 6 bands into two chasis.
--
Scott Smith: Amateur N2CQQ
[e-mail]


From [e-mail] Wed Oct 30 06:59:35 1996
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From: [e-mail] (DARRYL LINKOW)
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Subject: Mods wanted for Standard
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Anyone have any mods for the Standard C5900DA tri-bander?  If so,
please post here or Email me.  73, Darryl KE6IHA

---
 * OLX 2.2 * Darryl Linkow [phone]  9 am - 5 pm PDT


From [e-mail] Wed Oct 30 06:59:36 1996
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From: "Robert H. Eisner" <[e-mail]>
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Subject: More Info on Toys R US Cordless Phone/Headsets
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Hi All,

Thanks for all the replies to my Toys R US Cordless Phone
question that I posted last week.

The Toys R US stores that operate in the 457 Mhz range
have phones that look like Cell phones with a 2 inch
rubber duck type antenna.  This appears to be a 2 channel
system.  One phone operates on 457.5375 and the other on
457.5875.

              Base Unit     Hand Unit

               457.5375     468.6625
               457.5875     468.7625


The Toys R US stores that operate in the 30-35 Mhz range
have a headset like the ones used at Fast Food drive-thrus.


                Base        Headset

               30.8400      154.5700
               33.1600      154.5150

Bob


From [e-mail] Wed Oct 30 06:59:37 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Scannaman)
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Subject: More stuff for sale....
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pro 2026 NON CELL less than 1 year old, with box, 100plus shipping
DX-394 shortwave with amplified antenna 200 plus shipping
TRC465 sideband CB with box, etc...100 plus shipping
WILL SELL COMPLETE PACKAGE FOR 350 plus shipping
Free delivery to Eastern Mass, RI, S. NH.......Scannaman@AOL


From [e-mail] Wed Oct 30 06:59:38 1996
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From: "Mark" <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Multiple Radios w/one ext antenna??
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A newby question regarding hanging several scanners (Pro2035 and Pro2037)
on the same external antenna.

a) are there any attenuation or interference problems
b) is the a handy dandy one to two (or more) cable splitter
c) any other problems that may crop up

Thanks for the help

Mark


From [e-mail] Wed Oct 30 06:59:39 1996
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Subject: Re: Multiple Radios w/one ext antenna??
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I did that one and the "second" unit would stop scanning in odd places
when the "first" found a good freq.  Also the "second" one would would
chirp as the "first" one scanned.



"Mark" <[e-mail]> wrote:

>A newby question regarding hanging several scanners (Pro2035 and Pro2037)
>on the same external antenna.

>a) are there any attenuation or interference problems
>b) is the a handy dandy one to two (or more) cable splitter
>c) any other problems that may crop up

>Thanks for the help

>Mark




From [e-mail] Wed Oct 30 06:59:39 1996
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From: Pam or Rusty  <[e-mail]>
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Subject: nascar freqs
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please help.. I have some friends going to phoenix tommorrow to the nascar rac
e and they have a
scanner and would like to listen to thier favorite drivers at the track. can s
omeone post the
frequencies for me...?
Thanks.
Rusty Blinston


From [e-mail] Wed Oct 30 06:59:40 1996
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From: "Robert H. Eisner" <[e-mail]>
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Pam or Rusty wrote:
>
> please help.. I have some friends going to phoenix tommorrow to the nascar r
ace and they have a
> scanner and would like to listen to thier favorite drivers at the track. can
 someone post the
> frequencies for me...?
> Thanks.
> Rusty Blinston

Check out the following URLs:

 http://www.winstoncuponline.com/scanner.html
 http://student-www.eng.hawaii.edu/carina/nascarscannerfrequencies.html

Bob


From [e-mail] Wed Oct 30 06:59:41 1996
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Subject: Re: nascar freqs
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You can get a freq. book at Radio Shack-- Police Call & Beyond Police
Call, it has most all the race car freq.

okay
dan
[e-mail]
(OHIO)


From [e-mail] Wed Oct 30 06:59:42 1996
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Anyone have frequencies for Roosevelt Roads, Puerto Rico?
Thanks.

Ed


From [e-mail] Wed Oct 30 06:59:44 1996
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Subject: need  manual pro32
Date: Mon, 28 Oct 1996 12:31:02 -0800
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Hello Anybody,

         I just got a radio shack pro 32 scanner 200 channel model.
Since it was a gift, ( a used one) no manual:<( came with it.

         Would be intrested in getting one if it can be spared;  thanks
Anthony A. Andrianos kc6kim@ pacbell.net
P.O.421 Ross, Ca  94957


From [e-mail] Wed Oct 30 06:59:44 1996
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From: "Jory McIntosh, KB5UBS" <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: NEED DALLAS POLICE DEPARTMENT FREQUENCIES
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tammy chess wrote:
>
> Hi You Guys,
>
> I am looking for all 16 frequencies currently being used by the Dallas
> Police Department.  Currently I know of only 12.  Can anyone out there
> help me ...... PLEASE
>
> Tammy
>                       / ^   ^ \
>                      { (o) (o) }
>  ---------------oOOOo-----U----oOOOo-----------------

Check out this address, it has over 2000 DFW frequencies.
http://www.interplaza.com/scandfw/

Enjoy
73
Jory
KB5UBS


From [e-mail] Wed Oct 30 06:59:46 1996
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From: "Bill Crocker" <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: NEW PRO-2046 Mobile Scanner
Date: 26 Oct 1996 18:23:52 GMT
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I just picked up one of Radio Shacks new mobile scanners...

PRO-2046 (Cat #20-149)
29-54MHz, 108-136.9750MHz (AM), 137-174MHz, 406-512MHz, 806-823.9375MHz,
851-868.9375MHz, 896.1125-956.0000MHz  (Cellular Blocked, and probably not
restorable)
Preprogrammed bands:  POLICE FIRE-EMG, DOT (department of transportation),
HWY, PUBLIC SVC, and WEATHER
Frequency display:  000.0000
Hyperscan:  scan 50 channels per second
Hypersearch:  search up to 300 steps per second
Data Skip
Weather Band Key
Ten Channel-Storage Banks
Ten Monitor Memories
Ten Priority Channels
Nine Frequency Bands
Two Frequency Band Search Options
Frequency Skip
Two-Second Channel Scan/Search Delay
Key Confirmation Tones
Memory Backup (14 days with no power)
Lock-Out Function
Squelch Control
Backlit Display
Supplied with 12VDC cable for car installation, requires optional
(#273-1652C) A.C. adapter.
BNC antenna jack, external speaker jack, mounting bracket, and manual.

This unit is on sale through the end of this month, October-96, for
$199.00.  It has a very nice look and feel.  Controls are laid out nicely,
display is amber.  More on performance later!

Bill Crocker


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From: [e-mail] (Bob Parnass, AJ9S)
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In article <01bbc373$1e523520$7050c7cd@billc>,
Bill Crocker <[e-mail]> wrote:

        >I just picked up one of Radio Shacks new mobile scanners...
        >PRO-2046 (Cat #20-149)
           ...
        >This unit is on sale through the end of this month, October-96, for
        >$199.00.  It has a very nice look and feel.  Controls are laid out nicely,
        >display is amber.  More on performance later!


For a full review including quantitative test results,
see my column in October 1996 Monitoring Times.

Summary from the FAQ "Buying a Used Scanner:"

PRO-2046: 1996 vintage 100 channel  mobile  made  by  Uniden
with  fairly  good  performance.  Descendent of the BC760XLT
but no CTCSS option available.  Ten banks of  ten  channels.
Scans  memory  at  about  34  channels/sec.  Service search,
direct search, and band search.   Preset  search  limits  by
band  and  user  cannot  program  the  search limits.  Image
rejection is minimal, as one would  expect  from  a  scanner
with  IFs  of  10.85  and  0.450  MHz.   10  Monitor  memory
channels.  Can lock out up to 20 channels from a search.
--
==============================================================================
Copyright 1996, Bob Parnass, AJ9S                        [e-mail]

        Locate & identify transmitters in your area with RadioMap(tm)


From [e-mail] Wed Oct 30 06:59:48 1996
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From: [e-mail] (ANN KENON)
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This is a newbie question - please be patient!!

Radio Shack/Realistic PRO-25 scanner has sensitivity specifications of
20dB S/N with 60% modulation, 3kHz deviation for FM, 0.6uV in 137-174MHz.

What do each of these figures mean in terms of what it can receive, and
the quality of reception and audio output? How do these figures compare
to other portable and base-station scanners? If I want better
reception/audio quality, would it make much difference to go for another
make or price bracket?

Listening to VHF/UHF transmissions, the audio quality is not high, not as
good as commercial broadcast FM. Is this due to bandwidth? Using Xandi
Electronics' miniature crystal-controlled transmitter (143.775MHz) to
transmit conversation to the scanner, the end result is not as clear as
it could be. Would a different transmitter/scanner combination give
better clarity, or would a different technology be necessary for improved
fidelity?


From [e-mail] Wed Oct 30 06:59:49 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Uncle)
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On 26 Oct 1996 16:48:22 GMT, [e-mail] (ANN KENON) wrote:

+
+This is a newbie question - please be patient!!
+
+Radio Shack/Realistic PRO-25 scanner has sensitivity specifications
of
+20dB S/N with 60% modulation, 3kHz deviation for FM, 0.6uV in
137-174MHz.
+
+What do each of these figures mean in terms of what it can receive,

<el snippo>

 +to VHF/UHF transmissions, the audio quality is not high, not as
+good as commercial broadcast FM. Is this due to bandwidth? Using

3kc deviation is the normal allocated bandwidth for an FM voice
channel.  But on the 100Mc FM band, where fidelity is x times more
important than communications, the bandwidth per station is 150kc
(plus/minus, depending on the country, etc)

All comes down to horses for courses.  You want fidelity or
communications
that don't take up a lot of space in the limited spectrum
available.  That's why most FM handhelds, etc have a
LIMITED BANDWIDTH  of 3kc.  Human voice seldom goes above that,
so the limit is set there.  FM music however goes much higher,
not to mention a 19kc stereo pilot reference, SCA (hidden
channels for elevator music) and actually has two channels
(left/right) matrixed together.

Even as high as the 1200Mc ham band, voice is limited to
3kc, just not to be wasting spectrum.

Uncle Brian

    -    -    -    -
Life isn't meaningless, it just has a poor signal to noise ratio.


From [e-mail] Wed Oct 30 06:59:50 1996
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From: Dave Booth <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: NHRA Driver Freqs Needed
Date: Fri, 25 Oct 1996 09:49:40 -0700
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To: "John G. Olden" <[e-mail]>

John G. Olden wrote:
>
> Does anyone have a current listing of scanner frequencies of the
> drivers in NHRA?  I need them before Aug 30th for the U.S. Nationals.
> If you have them please E-mail them to me at    [e-mail]
>
> Thanks


DRIVER                  PRIMARY

Top Fuel

Joe Amoto               469.4000
Ron Capps               463.3000
Tom Johnson             457.5500
Rance McDaniel          461.3375

Funnycars

Gordie Bonln            463.4250
John Force              466.5500
Gordon Mineo            463.3250
Cruz Pedregon           467.4375

Pro Stock

Terry Adams             468.4250
Jerry Eckman            465.5000
Ray Franks              466.5875
Chuck Harris            466.2750
Ed Heck                 466.4000
Joe Lepone              466.6000
Larry Morgan            466.4500
Rickie Smith            464.2500
Mike Thomas             468.4875
Jim Yates               466.2750
http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/5860/

--
Dave Booth


From [e-mail] Wed Oct 30 06:59:51 1996
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Subject: Northrup, Lake Charles Freq Needed
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I'd like to know if anyone has the OPS freq for the Northrup/Grumman plant
at Lake Charles, LA.

Thanks.

Tom


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From: [e-mail] (D Stark)
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Subject: Re: Not Illegal?  (was Toys-R-Us)
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In article <54h3p0$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (m. mattson)
 wrote:

>Is what these stores are doing the same as if a scanner buff pulled a
>cordless phone transmission and re-broadcast on a baby monitor?  And
>without the callers' knowledge?
>
>If it were a scanner buff, I suspect someone would be getting their
>undies in a knot.
>
>Is what these stores are doing legal???

Why would it be illegal to repeat your own internal
communications on your own radio system?



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[e-mail] (D Stark) wrote:

>In article <54h3p0$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (m. mattson
) wrote:

>>Is what these stores are doing the same as if a scanner buff pulled a
>>cordless phone transmission and re-broadcast on a baby monitor?  And
>>without the callers' knowledge?
>>
>>If it were a scanner buff, I suspect someone would be getting their
>>undies in a knot.
>>
>>Is what these stores are doing legal???

>Why would it be illegal to repeat your own internal
>communications on your own radio system?

Does this mean I can broadcast a private phone conversasion on
broadcast band FM (as an example)?  Only if I'm one of the parties?
Without the other parties' knowledge?

Mark

The truth as I perceive it to be.
Your perception will be different.




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From: "Jeffrey Clarine" <[e-mail]>
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Subject: OLD BEARCAT BC/2020 ADVICE NEEDED
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Have recently acquired a BC 20/20 (circa 1982) and can't understand the A-B
switch.  PLEASE, if anyone has one or a operations manual, post the specs
and purpose of the switch.  Your help is greatly appreciated.



From [e-mail] Wed Oct 30 06:59:54 1996
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From: Dan Gray <[e-mail]>
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To: Jeffrey Clarine <[e-mail]>

Jeffrey Clarine wrote:
>
> Have recently acquired a BC 20/20 (circa 1982) and can't understand the A-B
> switch.  PLEASE, if anyone has one or a operations manual, post the specs
> and purpose of the switch.  Your help is greatly appreciated.


Jeffrey,

     I just gave my old BC 20/20 to a friend so I don't have the manual
anymore.  However, the switch is for moving from the first bank of 20
channels to the second bank of 20 channels, hence 20/20!  It holds a
total of 40 channels.

Good Luck,
Dan


From [e-mail] Wed Oct 30 06:59:55 1996
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From: Brian Varine <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: Oops: Re: Receiving traffic helicopter signals?
Date: Mon, 21 Oct 1996 06:35:21 -0700
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On Mon, 21 Oct 1996, Armando Stettner wrote:

> > If it is microwave, I suspect it is pretty directional.  However, I
> > suspect that it is microwave....
> Oops:  I ment to say that I suspect it is *not* microwave.

Actually the helicopter in Portland Oregon uses a diection microwave link
to transmit it's TV and FLIR (Yes, KGW has FLIR-Incredible but true)
They even have a big website about the helicopter including the type of
microwave link

http://www.kgw.com


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Brian Varine ([e-mail]) wrote:

: Actually the helicopter in Portland Oregon uses a diection microwave link
: to transmit it's TV and FLIR (Yes, KGW has FLIR-Incredible but true)
: They even have a big website about the helicopter including the type of
: microwave link

They probably bought the equipment at a bargain-basement price from some
military electronics contractor whose main business is drying up due to
budged cuts.  I'm sure the development of this stuff was paid for by the
military, it would be far too expensive for someone to develop just for
the commercial market.


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From: "Chris Smith, NR3O" <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: Open Squelch Problem (AR2700 & SCANCAT)
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<[e-mail]> wrote:
>I am unable to get the my radio's squelch to close while running
>SCANCAT

Ah, yes, wonderful....it's a "feature" of SCANCAT (they could not get the radi
o
to respond with signal strength any other way than to command its squelch open
.

|:(



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From: Chuck Penson <[e-mail]>
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Subject: OPINIONS: PRO-2042?
Date: Thu, 24 Oct 1996 12:57:58 -0600
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I'm looking for some thought re this gizmo. I'm having a little attack
of technolust...

Thanks,

--
Chuck


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I'm looking for some thoughts re this gizmo. I'm having a little attack
of technolust...

Thanks,

--
Chuck


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From: [e-mail] (Drew Durigan)
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Subject: PLAY Dumb?  RS Salesdroids ARE Dumb!!
Date: 24 Oct 1996 17:10:19 GMT
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>So, if these droids start selling the HTX-202 as GMRS, scoff at them,
>report their wrong "Answers (tm)" to a supervisory level (even if its
>above the manager)...and then piss 'em off like I did.  Direct the poor
>customer out the DOOR! (slam)  (Note: I do not work for RS, that's the
>funny part!)

Hmmm...they do that in your area too, huh?

Reminds me of the time I overheard Sammy Salesdroid trying to sell HTX-
202s to a construction foreman because "they have more channels and talk
further than these do."  ("These" being the standard CB walkie-talkies)

License?  What license?  DUH!!!!

"You've got questions, we've got Salesdroids."


-Drew in Sunny Central Florida-



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From: "Jack Joyner" <[e-mail]>
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Date: 22 Oct 1996 21:06:27 GMT
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Sid,
Pin 7 goes to the + supply voltage, usually from the power supply or
battery.  Pin 4 goes to the - supply voltage (ground).  IEEE specs for
RS-232 is for + & - 12 volts on the signel line.
Jack

Sid James <[e-mail]> wrote in article
<[e-mail]>...
> Hi
> I recently sent a query about 12volt on rs232 line....now i'll put it
> another way.
>
> I am trying to build the pocsag interface as show in the pocsag
> documentation.
> I am having trouble understanding where pin 7 of the 741 chip goes
> it just says +12v. similarly with pin 4 this says -12v.
>
> If anyone has successfully build one, can they PLEASE explain where
> the voltage comes from, or am I getting it completely wrong !
>
> Sid
>
>


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From: [e-mail] (Sid James)
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Hi
I recently sent a query about 12volt on rs232 line....now i'll put it
another way.

I am trying to build the pocsag interface as show in the pocsag
documentation.
I am having trouble understanding where pin 7 of the 741 chip goes
it just says +12v. similarly with pin 4 this says -12v.

If anyone has successfully build one, can they PLEASE explain where
the voltage comes from, or am I getting it completely wrong !

Sid



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From: [e-mail] (Barry Saxon)
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In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Sid J
ames) writes:

>I am having trouble understanding where pin 7 of the 741 chip goes
>it just says +12v. similarly with pin 4 this says -12v.

>If anyone has successfully build one, can they PLEASE explain where
>the voltage comes from, or am I getting it completely wrong !

>Sid

I built one; it works fine.
You assemble a bridge rectifier to drive the 741, that derives its inputs from

RTS and DTR, which are pins 4 and 20 respectively on a DB25.  Ground is 7.

Barry


From [e-mail] Wed Oct 30 07:00:04 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Rob Kling)
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Sid,

        I think the question you are asking is where does the power come from?  If yo
u notice there are two schematics
in the diagrams found in the archive PD-203.zip,  whcih can be found at   http
://www.l0pht.com/radiophone/pager/pager.html.
The upper schematic,  the one that contains the 741, is the demodulator. The l
ower schematic is the one that allows you to derive
power from your RS-232 connection. I believe the reason these are seperate dia
grams is so you can supply the demodulator with
your own power source, so as not to put a load on your COM port.

Rob

>Hi
>I recently sent a query about 12volt on rs232 line....now i'll put it
>another way.
>
>I am trying to build the pocsag interface as show in the pocsag
>documentation.
>I am having trouble understanding where pin 7 of the 741 chip goes
>it just says +12v. similarly with pin 4 this says -12v.
>
>If anyone has successfully build one, can they PLEASE explain where
>the voltage comes from, or am I getting it completely wrong !
>
>Sid
>


From [e-mail] Wed Oct 30 07:00:05 1996
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From: William Daughtry <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Police And Fire Frequencies For S.E.Alabama
Date: Sat, 26 Oct 1996 16:36:15 -0700
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Does anyone have the frequencies for both Houston County Sheriff and
Fire Departments? Trying to program Bearcat scanner. Thanks.


From [e-mail] Wed Oct 30 07:00:06 1996
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Subject: Re: Police convention @ PHX
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No, but according to today's AZ REPUBLIC, there were more workshops on
dealing with the media than fighting terrorism, militias, etc.



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From: [e-mail] (Dave Parkhill)
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NJ Islander <[e-mail]> wrote:

>gross wrote:
>>
>> I heard a rumor that a gallon of aluminum pop can tabs are worth around
>> $200.00 because these tabs are pure aluminum.  This rumor came from a
>> very respected source.  If any knows if this is true, please email me
>> with your answer.  Thank You for your time.
>>
>> Jeff
>> [e-mail]
>Um, aluminum goes for about $.30 a pound at a scrap yard.  So I would
>guesstimate that a gallon of these "pop" (soda here in the east) tabs
>would be worth about $10-15.
There was a rumour flying around years ago that if a community or
group saved X amount of pop tops, they could trade them in on a
wheelchair. Seeing as the most expensive part of aluminum processing
is the electricity involved, (especially in these days of recycling),
I'd guess pop tops are a dime a pound. It would be cool if it were
true, though. I've got 2 - five gallon buckets full of beer caps, I'll
take offers!
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From [e-mail] Wed Oct 30 07:00:08 1996
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I heard a rumor that a gallon of aluminum pop can tabs are worth around
$200.00 because these tabs are pure aluminum.  This rumor came from a
very respected source.  If any knows if this is true, please email me
with your answer.  Thank You for your time.

Jeff
[e-mail]


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Aluminum Trivia :

The Washington Monument is capped with a 100 oz. piece of Aluminum
because, at the time, it was considered highly valueable due to its
rareity and expensive refining process.  Not so anymore.

gross ([e-mail]) wrote:
: I heard a rumor that a gallon of aluminum pop can tabs are worth around
: $200.00 because these tabs are pure aluminum.  This rumor came from a
: very respected source.  If any knows if this is true, please email me
: with your answer.  Thank You for your time.

: Jeff
: [e-mail]

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From [e-mail] Wed Oct 30 07:00:10 1996
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From: NewsRadio <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Portable antennas for sale
Date: Tue, 22 Oct 1996 17:05:56 -0700
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I have a number of Cellwave rubber ducky antennas for sale, most with
unusual frequency ranges and/or connectors. Most are for sale at 10$
each. These are new, never used, but without packaging as they were demos
for a trade show. Please e-mail me if you are intersted at
[e-mail]

Some of the frequency ranges are:

821 Cellular, full band (tx/rx - 870)
806 Trunking, full band (tx/rx - 850)
406-420 UHF
118 VHF Air

Many are with BNC connectors, also some with SMA, some with threaded
Motorola type, etc. There are about a dozen in total. Also, some are
stubby types, some are full half wave whips, and some of the
trunking/cellular ones are the hi gain type.

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Subject: Power supply for 2006
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Is it better to use an AC/DC power adapter to power my Pro-2006 or
staight from household current. I remember someone saying it reduces
heat inside the unit by using an adapter. The back of the 2006 says 13.8
volt. I haven't seen one exactly 13.8 volt. HELP! -Scott


From [e-mail] Wed Oct 30 07:00:11 1996
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Scott Cochran ([e-mail]) wrote:
: Is it better to use an AC/DC power adapter to power my Pro-2006 or
: staight from household current. I remember someone saying it reduces
: heat inside the unit by using an adapter. The back of the 2006 says 13.8
: volt. I haven't seen one exactly 13.8 volt. HELP! -Scott


A 12-volt DC one will very likely work here, be sure and get the + and -
polarity correct, though.


From [e-mail] Wed Oct 30 07:00:12 1996
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Scott Cochran wrote:
>
> Is it better to use an AC/DC power adapter to power my Pro-2006 or
> staight from household current. I remember someone saying it reduces
> heat inside the unit by using an adapter. The back of the 2006 says 13.8
> volt. I haven't seen one exactly 13.8 volt. HELP! -Scott

A 12 volt supply works fine... so does the 13.8 or so you get from the cig
lighter in your car when the engine is running.  (Automotive DC is pretty
harsh.. spikes, poor regulation, etc.)  12V from a lead acid battery in the
home works fine... just as anything from about 11.5V up to about 14 to 15V
or so out of a DC power supply.

Unless you have a good reason to do away with the AC, I can see no benefit
to doing so.  The unit is designed with it's own power supply, with sufficient
regulation and filtering to power the unit with plenty to spare.  If you do
see a substantial improvement in performance by going DC, then you may have
a slight problem with either regulation or filtering in your internal supply.

On the other hand, if you are trying to run off of solar, battery, generator,
car, boat, or other DC source because there is no AC, or AC is inconvenient
then that is a different story.

In the manual you will find the limits of acceptable input voltages to the
DC input jack, with it's respective current requirements.

I do know, however, that it will run fine on 12 volts.  No degredation in
performance or volume whatsoever.

Dan
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From [e-mail] Wed Oct 30 07:00:13 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Blue dot 9)
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In article <[e-mail]>, Scott Cochran <[e-mail]>
writes:

>The back of the 2006 says 13.8
>volt. I haven't seen one exactly 13.8 volt. HELP! -Scott

The reason that it say 13.8 volts is because it is rated to handle a
direct load from the automobile battery, either from the cigarette lighter
or a dedicated circuit.

Automobiles' voltage changes drastically due to accessories and the rate
of recharge from the alternator.  Sometimes as high as 17 volts due to
overcharge, and sometimes as low as 10.5 volts.

Therefore, the scanners which are suggested by the manufacturer to be
capable of mobile use usually put a 13.8V rating to assure the consumer
that connecting this item to their car is a possibility.

If you decide to use a wall-wart, then a regulated wall-wart at 12V rating
(with enough amperage) will do just fine.

If you want to use the scanner in your car, then use either the direct
cigarette lighter cord, or wire a line to the fuse box.  Please use a
....3A (?) in-line fuse.  Someone correct me if this is otherwise.  Also I
would suggest a electrical noise filter (usually found at sound-stores,
and use the one for a stereo head unit).

Dave
(Scanner Flatulaire)


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From: [e-mail] (Donald Sullivan)
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What is the price????



From [e-mail] Wed Oct 30 07:00:15 1996
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From: "rabdoe" <[e-mail]>
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Subject: pro 2006 FS:
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I have a Pro 2006 in excellent condition with manual and box,hardly used
from the time i got it..I want $300 for it,but be willing to trade for a
lesser model with cellular mod and some cash...let me know
thanx [e-mail]


From [e-mail] Wed Oct 30 07:00:16 1996
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Subject: Pro 2035
Date: Mon, 21 Oct 1996 17:21:48 GMT
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I just bought a new Pro2035 from Radio Shack, I got a really good deal
on it, I think, " $249.99 due to clearance" I would just like get
anyones opinion on it, good bad or indifferent, and to know if anyone
could tell me a good place for getting freqs. for the Maryland area, I
have Police Call, but it seems pretty limited. Thanks for any help..

                                     Garry
                           [e-mail]


From [e-mail] Wed Oct 30 07:00:17 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Dan Morgan)
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Subject: Re: PRO 2035 Close Out at RS / Q. on memory
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On Tue, 22 Oct 1996 03:24:27 -0500, [e-mail] (Gary
Buchholz) wrote:
>
>Gee, do you believe that RS still has vintage 1995 PRO 2035
>(1,000 memory "continuous" 25-1.3G) still in stock?  My local
>RS had three of these (claimed new) in a box.
>
>Catalog price was $499.  Best price from Grove (according to my
>stockpile of old catalogs) was $399.  RS is finally dumping these
>at $249.  Bought one to add to my collection joining my PRO 2006
>and BC 9000 XLT.
>
>Works great, really brain damaged search and store which doesn't
>understand unique frequencies.
>
>Question.  The manual says that the scanner will retain freqs in
>memory for three months without power.  Is this is pre-EEPROM
>non-volatile memory scanner or is there an hidden button battery
>inside the case that I missed in my initial inspection.
>
>Thanks
>  Gary / ke9zm
If I remember correctly, the button battery is on the left side of the
main board close to the transformer.


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From: [e-mail] (Gary Buchholz)
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Subject: PRO 2035 Close Out at RS / Q. on memory
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Gee, do you believe that RS still has vintage 1995 PRO 2035
(1,000 memory "continuous" 25-1.3G) still in stock?  My local
RS had three of these (claimed new) in a box.

Catalog price was $499.  Best price from Grove (according to my
stockpile of old catalogs) was $399.  RS is finally dumping these
at $249.  Bought one to add to my collection joining my PRO 2006
and BC 9000 XLT.

Works great, really brain damaged search and store which doesn't
understand unique frequencies.

Question.  The manual says that the scanner will retain freqs in
memory for three months without power.  Is this is pre-EEPROM
non-volatile memory scanner or is there an hidden button battery
inside the case that I missed in my initial inspection.

Thanks
  Gary / ke9zm


From [e-mail] Wed Oct 30 07:00:19 1996
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From: Rich Wells <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: PRO 2035 Close Out at RS / Q. on memory
Date: Wed, 23 Oct 1996 11:59:23 -0400
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I believe there is a small re-chargeable battery on the board
whose job is to refresh the PROM holding your data and it can,
as you mentioned, only deliver power for three months without
being recharged before it is exhausted.

Strong signals,
Rich Wells
>>> Please direct e-mail to [e-mail]! <<<
N2MCA
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Gary Buchholz wrote:
> Question.  The manual says that the scanner will retain freqs in
> memory for three months without power.  Is this is pre-EEPROM
> non-volatile memory scanner or is there an hidden button battery
> inside the case that I missed in my initial inspection.


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Actually what most microprocessor circuits did in this situation was to
use a large (~ 1 Farad or greater) capacitor to store the energy for the
memory backup. That's how my old PRO-34 worked.

Incidentally I read a post a while back about someone having trouble
listening with a discone antenna. The most likely problem is a bad
connection at one end of the coax or the other. i.e. a multimeter is a
worthless instrument for checking a coax cable. Good dc continuity does
not equal good rf continuity. If you installed a connector yourself,
there is a 99.999999% probability you did a lousy job. That's why my
company hires people whose only job in life is to install RF connectors
on cables.

John Kirby BSEE




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              RADIO SHACK PRO 2036

      THATS RIGHT I SAID A PRO 2036 MINT COND. FOR ONLY  $100  OBO

       POLICE,CORDLESS, CELLULAR, MANY MANY MORE

     CALL TONY AT 310.984.4322  OR PAGE AT 310.770.1289

          DON'T WAIT IT'LL GO SOON!



From [e-mail] Wed Oct 30 07:00:21 1996
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From: Steve Arnold <[e-mail]>
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paul burke wrote:
>
> in my home town pawnshop they have a pro 62 for $129.00 is this a good
> buy y/n  can you do cell mods on this one
>
> thanks paul
>
> email  [e-mail]

The price is great!

No cell mods.

Steve

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Has anyone done the PRO-2005 speed mod. I have read two ways of doing it.
One is to add a diode to D501 but I've recently read that if you clip
D503, it has the same effect. True? SOunds a lot easier.
Any tips on adding a faster X-tal?

==============================================================================
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From [e-mail] Wed Oct 30 07:00:23 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Alan Frisbie)
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In article <[e-mail]>,
Andrew Helyer <[e-mail]> writes:

> I've also heard that Belden-9913 is great.

It is, but it is very stiff and cannot be bent in tight arcs.
However, if you want great reception, you need to accept
these things.

> And regarding the Belden 9913 coax.  It's a much larger copper core
> (11AWG I believe).  How do I get that wire connected to the BNC
> connector on the 2006?

The only connector I know that is made for Belden 9913 is the
Amphenol 82-202-1006 plug.   This is a type-N plug, so you
will need to use a N-to-BNC adaptor.   Amphenol also makes
a crimp-on Type-N connector for 9913, but it is not practical
for the person who only needs one or two connectors.

You can get the Amphenol 82-202-1006 from Digi-Key (800-344-4539)
under their part number ARF1020-ND.   The price is $6.69 each,
but they have a $25 minimum order.

Other parts that you will need:

  Type-N right-angle adapter - Amphenol 82-64, Digi-Key ARF1028-ND, $19.02
    (This assumes that the coax enters your room from any direction other
    than directly behind the radio.   Two of these will give you a lot
    of flexability in positioning your radio.)
  Type-N to BNC adapter - Amphenol 31-217, Digi-Key ARF1102-ND, $10.26

Two connectors (I assume that you need one at the antenna end also)
and one of each of the adapters will put you over their minimum order.
Yes, Amphenol prices are high, but high-quality will save you money
and grief in the long run.

You can call Amphenol (203-743-9272) and ask for a copy of the
Assembly Instructions for Clamp-type N connectors.   They will
FAX it to you immediately.

--  Alan E. Frisbie               [e-mail]
--  Flying Disk Systems, Inc.


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From: Andrew Helyer <[e-mail]>
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I'm in need of info about connecting an external antenna to a Realistic
Pro-2006.  Specifically, I'm curious what coaxial cable to use between
the unit and the antenna.  The manual recommends RG-8.  I've also heard
that Belden-9913 is great.

My understanding is that I should use a 50ohm cable such as RG-8.  But
if quad shielded RG-6 cable is just as good, I'd like to know that.

And regarding the Belden 9913 coax.  It's a much larger copper core
(11AWG I believe).  How do I get that wire connected to the BNC
connector on the 2006?

Any help is appreciated.  Probably best to Email me.

--Andrew;

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From [e-mail] Wed Oct 30 07:00:25 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Scan Mod)
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Subject: PRO-2036
Date: 25 Oct 1996 21:12:09 -0400
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How is the pro-2036 and why do I see so little about it.
please e-mail me with this info


From [e-mail] Wed Oct 30 07:00:26 1996
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From: KIRK MCDONALD <[e-mail]>
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To: Scan Mod <[e-mail]>

Scan Mod wrote:
>
> How is the pro-2036 and why do I see so little about it.
> please e-mail me with this info

I just bought a new one about a month ago and I think it's great. I was
going to get a Bearcat 9000, then I saw Radio Shack had a sale on the
pro-2036, at 169.$ it was about 200. $ less than the BC-9000 and looks
identical to it. It has all the features I wanted except the
alpha-numeric display. Even the optional CTCSS board costs substancially
less than the same board for the bearcat. I was suprised when I opened
the scanner to install the board, and saw the pro-2036 is actually made
by Uniden. In my opinion it was a very good deal. I would like to find
out what, if any, mods can be done to it. I have also bought a pro-2006
due to the extensive mods that can be done to it. Still considering the
Bc-9000 also. Does anyone know if there is a Radio Shack clone of the
BC-9000 ?

Kirk McDonald
Fairfield County Fire Monitoring


From [e-mail] Wed Oct 30 07:00:27 1996
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From: [e-mail] (MEM&GWM)
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[e-mail] (Scan Mod) wrote:

>How is the pro-2036 and why do I see so little about it.
>please e-mail me with this info
 Hey Scan Mod,

I just pick up tonight, a used RS  pro-2036 and it is made by Uniden
for the Radio Shack in the Phillipines.

It is the exact  Uniden scanner Bearcat 890xlt and is almost the same
as the BC 9000xlt but the bc 890 is NOT triple coversion. I love the
rotoray knob.

If you get any information concerning this scanner and mods please
pass it on to the newsgroup for all to see. Thanx

Good scanning makes good friends,

Mike



From [e-mail] Wed Oct 30 07:00:29 1996
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KIRK MCDONALD wrote:
>
> Scan Mod wrote:
> >
> > How is the pro-2036 and why do I see so little about it.
> > please e-mail me with this info
>
> I just bought a new one about a month ago and I think it's great. I was
> going to get a Bearcat 9000, then I saw Radio Shack had a sale on the
> pro-2036, at 169.$ it was about 200. $ less than the BC-9000 and looks
> identical to it. It has all the features I wanted except the
> alpha-numeric display. Even the optional CTCSS board costs substancially
> less than the same board for the bearcat. I was suprised when I opened
> the scanner to install the board, and saw the pro-2036 is actually made
> by Uniden. In my opinion it was a very good deal. I would like to find
> out what, if any, mods can be done to it. I have also bought a pro-2006
> due to the extensive mods that can be done to it. Still considering the
> Bc-9000 also. Does anyone know if there is a Radio Shack clone of the
> BC-9000 ?
>
> Kirk McDonald
> Fairfield County Fire Monitoring


I picked on of these Pro-2036 scans up at RS too.  Price was good at
$125.  Question is does this model, since it is an Uniden, have a 800 mhz
cellular modification?  An info or diagram would be appreciated.  Tks..

Steve Miller
Vista, CA



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I've searched high and low and can't seem to find ANY mods for the RS
Pro-2036 scanner which I've heard that is a clone of the Uniden 890xlt.
Can anybody help!!!!
Dennis
[e-mail]


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Has anybody replace the US CPU for the European CPU?  Any problems any
feature loses, any extra birdies etc. etc.


From [e-mail] Wed Oct 30 07:00:31 1996
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From: JazzMan <[e-mail]>
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I searched altavista for info on modifying the PRO-34 800mhz band,
to no avail. Does anyone here have any pointers on where to look?
I've got the service manual which indicates some differences between
the US and Canada version, but it doesn't specifically say how to
convert the PRO-34 to the Canadian specs. Also, I tried to go to
 http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/bcheek
but Netscape doesn't like that address and gives me an error message.
Any info would be appreciated!                 JazzMan

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In a previous article, JazzMan <[e-mail]> wrote:
->I searched altavista for info on modifying the PRO-34 800mhz band,
->to no avail. Does anyone here have any pointers on where to look?
->I've got the service manual which indicates some differences between
->the US and Canada version, but it doesn't specifically say how to
->convert the PRO-34 to the Canadian specs. Also, I tried to go to
-> http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/bcheek
->but Netscape doesn't like that address and gives me an error message.
->Any info would be appreciated!


    You have to get to the bottom board and clip D-11. It involves some
soldering to get to the board (antenna ground), but it can be fairly easily
done.
Phil


From [e-mail] Wed Oct 30 07:00:34 1996
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From: JazzMan <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: PRO-34 Frequency mod pointers needed!
Date: Sun, 27 Oct 1996 12:41:19 -0800
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[e-mail] wrote:
>
> In a previous article, JazzMan <[e-mail]> wrote:
> ->I searched altavista for info on modifying the PRO-34 800mhz band,
> ->to no avail. Does anyone here have any pointers on where to look?
> ->I've got the service manual which indicates some differences between
> ->the US and Canada version, but it doesn't specifically say how to
> ->convert the PRO-34 to the Canadian specs. Also, I tried to go to
> -> http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/bcheek
> ->but Netscape doesn't like that address and gives me an error message.
> ->Any info would be appreciated!
>
>     You have to get to the bottom board and clip D-11. It involves some
> soldering to get to the board (antenna ground), but it can be fairly easily
> done.
> Phil.

That's easier than I had expected! The manual lists different values for
several components, plus the addition of a choke on the antenna ground and
three resistors (R801, R802, R803). Will I need to do any tuning after clippin
g
D11, or will I be up and running right away? Thanks for your quick reply to
my earlier post, Phil!

JazzMan
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From [e-mail] Wed Oct 30 07:00:35 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Mike Bell)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: PRO-34 Frequency mod pointers needed!
Date: Tue, 29 Oct 1996 14:49:10 GMT
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JazzMan <[e-mail]> wrote:

>That's easier than I had expected! The manual lists different values for
>several components, plus the addition of a choke on the antenna ground and
>three resistors (R801, R802, R803). Will I need to do any tuning after clippi
ng
>D11, or will I be up and running right away? Thanks for your quick reply to
>my earlier post, Phil!


Canadian standards for interference are tighter than FCC regs...
That's the reason for the additional components.

-- Mike --





From [e-mail] Wed Oct 30 07:00:36 1996
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From: Roy Rutherford <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Pro-38
Date: Sat, 26 Oct 1996 13:52:12 -0700
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I just received an older looking model Pro-38 Realistic scanner. While
everything appears to work, I don't get any radio transmissions.  I've
tried a number of freq's that I know are busy.  All I get is an
occassional beep from the speaker.
Is this unit worth fixing?  I just need a scanner for a specific
purpose, to monitor a group of freq's in the 46-49 range.  ANY input
would be greatly appreciated.


From [e-mail] Wed Oct 30 07:00:37 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Jeff Krauss)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Pro-43 Keyboard Problem
Date: 21 Oct 1996 16:38:34 GMT
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My Pro-43 has the following problem.  The right hand column of keys, "3",
"6" and "9", no longer work.  I've taken the unit apart and cleaned the
inside of the keypad and the pc board with alcohol, bu that didn't solve
the problem.  I've ordered a new rubber keypad from RS (they cost $5)  but
it hasn't arrived yet.  Is this likely to solve the problem, or do I need
to use some other solvent for cleaning the pc board?


From [e-mail] Wed Oct 30 07:00:38 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Mike Owyang)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Pro-43 Keyboard Problem
Date: Mon, 21 Oct 1996 20:33:29 -0800
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In article, [e-mail] (Jeff Krauss) wrote:

> My Pro-43 has the following problem.  The right hand column of keys, "3",
> "6" and "9", no longer work.  I've taken the unit apart and cleaned the
> inside of the keypad and the pc board with alcohol, bu that didn't solve
> the problem.  I've ordered a new rubber keypad from RS (they cost $5)  but
> it hasn't arrived yet.  Is this likely to solve the problem, or do I need
> to use some other solvent for cleaning the pc board?

I also had the same problem and no amount of cleaning helped. Replacement
of the keypad took care of it.

Mike


From [e-mail] Wed Oct 30 07:00:39 1996
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From: "ALAN RAINEY" <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Pro-43 Speaker
Date: 25 Oct 1996 14:15:09 GMT
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Does anyone know if there is a better replacement speaker for the 43'?  The
original speakerhas gotten so mushy that it needs to be replaced.  With the
size limitations of the case, has anyone found a better one?

Thanks,

Alan Rainey
Wichita Falls, TX


From [e-mail] Wed Oct 30 07:00:40 1996
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From: Bryan Winstead <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: Pro-43 Speaker
Date: Mon, 28 Oct 1996 22:04:53 -0600
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tyler wrote:
>
> In article <01bbc27e$69a046c0$1efe61ce@default>, [e-mail] says...
> >
> >Does anyone know if there is a better replacement speaker for the 43'?  The
> >original speakerhas gotten so mushy that it needs to be replaced.  With the
> >size limitations of the case, has anyone found a better one?
> >
> >Thanks,
> >
> >Alan Rainey
> >Wichita Falls, TX
>
> Alan,  Sorry to tell you this, but the best speaker I've heard the PRO-43
> drive is an 8" wide-range generic speaker from Rat Shack.  I try to use the
> speaker in mine as little as possible.  IT SOUNDS HORRIBLE.   I dont' know
> what else you could put in there to get any better sound from.  It's a reall
y
> SMALL space for a speaker.
> Tyler


Our man Cheek has a nice solution to this problem.
My suggestion is to buy his handbook(s).
They are hugely insightful regarding the hobby.
If you'd ask him, he'd probably tell you which
book contains this solution ... and then go ahead
and explain the mod to you in detail anyway. And
then tell you to email him if you run into a problem.
And then step you through the part where you didn't
pay attention ... all the time being cordial and
friendly. At least that's my experience.
Flame away IDIOTS.


From [e-mail] Wed Oct 30 07:00:40 1996
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From: "Kent Christian" <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Pro-60
Date: 27 Oct 1996 21:16:57 GMT
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Does anybody know how to hack a Radio Shack Pro-60 to get cell freq's.
Thank you in advance.
[e-mail]


From [e-mail] Wed Oct 30 07:00:41 1996
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From: [e-mail] (John Kracke)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: PRO2004 PROBLEMS
Date: Fri, 25 Oct 1996 14:47:12 GMT
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Okay, I am going to throw this on the table for anyone to help..  I
have asked the infamous BC for assistance and the advice ( the FAQ
regarding bad solder joints) he has given me is plausilbe and most
likley the culprit.  What I really need to know is what specific area
(component ID) should I be looking at..   Or, if anyone can point me a
a specific resolution that would be very nice too..  Here are the
problems:

SCANNER NUMBER 1:

Problem 1:  The scanner works well and receives all freqs without
problem.  When it is first powered up, I get a scratchy sound that
soon goes away.  After it has been up for about fifteen minutes or so,
the sound (audio) starts to fade to nothing.  The scanner still scans,
still stops on various channels, but no sound.

This is what I have been able to determine about Problem 1..  using a
heat gun, I can recreat the problem if I shoot warm air in the area of
the power supply..  Using a can of cold spray, and heat, I cannot
isolate the problem to any one specific componient.  I have replaced
just about everyting in that area..   I have replaced the processor
board so I know the noise is not from IC502 (I have two scanners and
the problem does not follow the processor boards)


Problem 2:  On occasion, when I power up the scanner, the display
light illuminates, but nothing is displayed and there is no sound
regardless of the volume setting, nor is there andy "beep" when I try
to manually sellect a channel or enter a frequency.   If I turn the
set on and off several times, it might start working..  If I leave it
on and walk away, come back a little while later, it will be working,
but ALL of the ten channel banks are selected when I only was scanning
on the first bank.   Then the audio problem is repeated in "problem 1"
above.

I have absolutely no idea what is causing Problem 2.  I have left the
scanner run continuously scanning bank 1 and come back several hours
later to find all ten banks selelcted..  This is a very intermittant
problem  I have replace the processor board with one that I know is
good, and the problem still persists.


SCANNER NUMBER 2:

Problem:  Scanner works well.  It scans, receives, sounds great
however, the audio on anything in the 800MHZ and above ranges sounds
like it is coming from a microphone with wind blowing on it (similar
to a sound of a dirty volume control).    I replaced the processor
board and the problem is still present.  So I don't think IC502 is the
culprit here either..

So, anyone want to take a shot?  I have the service manual.  I do not
have a signal generator, but I do have an O'scope and a handy dandy
VOM.

I would appreciate any advice (toward solving the problem that is)...

                                        John






From [e-mail] Wed Oct 30 07:00:42 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Blue dot 9)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: PRO2004 PROBLEMS
Date: 28 Oct 1996 19:26:53 -0500
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In article <54qjog$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (John Kracke)
writes:

>This is what I have been able to determine about Problem 1..  using a
>heat gun, I can recreat the problem if I shoot warm air in the area of
>the power supply.

It sounds like your transformer is on the blink....not producing enough
amperage.  Try a 12V wall wart and see if it still happens.  If you don't
have a wall wart, then use a cigarette adapter (and your car, too!) and
see if it still continues.

If it doesn't then you hit that problem, if it does then it is between the
board and the power supply area.

Just a suggestion...seeing as no one else wants to give out free advice.

Dave
(Scanner Flatulaire)


From [e-mail] Wed Oct 30 07:00:43 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Michael Alexander)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: pro2006 400 channels FS:
Date: Mon, 21 Oct 1996 11:33:37 -0400
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In article <[e-mail]>, "Barry Burke Jr." <[e-mail]> wrot
e:

> rabdoe wrote:
> >
> > I asked for offers the first time and they all came under the $300.00
> > mark,that's what I am trying to get minimum for this excellent condition
> > 400 channel scanner..somebody told me they could get them REFURBISHED with
> > a Warranty for $300.00 This is a hardly used scanner 'NOT REFURBISHED'with
> > the simple resistor mod,original box,manual..I stand behaind anything I
> > sell...I also have the antenna extension cable for the back of the unit.
>
>
> In my opinion, a factory refurb w/ warranty is worth more than USED
anytime. <G>
>
>
> For $50 more I just bought one of those radios NEW.
>
> Barry

A few months back I bought three refurbished PCs for my business. I got a
great deal on them, they look new and they are covered by the usual
warranty. It was the first time that I ever bought anything refurbed. I
recommend it.

--
Michael Alexander
[e-mail]


From [e-mail] Wed Oct 30 07:00:44 1996
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From: "Mark" <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: PRO2037 or alternatives
Date: 26 Oct 1996 02:25:06 GMT
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Questions from a newby regarding scanners.  I can get a PRO 2037 for $179
and am trying to see if this is a good deal.  What other scanners are on
the market that have the same basic functionality?  I want a scanner for a
couple of hundred but would like the most I can get for my money.  The last
time I used scanners the choice was which crystals to put in the eight
available slots.

Mark


From [e-mail] Wed Oct 30 07:00:46 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Mark Krubsack)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: PRO2037 or alternatives
Date: Sat, 26 Oct 1996 10:47:33 GMT
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 On 26 Oct 1996 02:25:06 GMT, "Mark" <[e-mail]> wrote:

>Questions from a newby regarding scanners.  I can get a PRO 2037 for $179
>and am trying to see if this is a good deal.  What other scanners are on
>the market that have the same basic functionality?  I want a scanner for a
>couple of hundred but would like the most I can get for my money.  The last
>time I used scanners the choice was which crystals to put in the eight
>available slots.

I have the Pro-2037, and like it.  It doesn't get cellular, but you can go
to www.grove.net and get their converter for that.  The thing I DO LIKE
about the 2037 is it's triple-conversion.  In a large city, intermod can be
a problem, the triple conversion eliminates a lot of that.

With scanners, I think you choose your desired set of bells and whistles,
then look for a good price.  Nowadays, they all do about the same thing.  If
you can find it, cellular coverage is really nice.



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From [e-mail] Wed Oct 30 07:00:47 1996
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From: Carlo <@postoffice.csu.edu.au>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Problem camnis hsc-050
Date: Sun, 27 Oct 1996 21:10:51 -0800
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MESSAGE:
   HI.
Hi.
I got the wideband reveiver pre-amplifier' and 'camnis hsc-050 scanning
reveiver'.
They are hooked up to my  wheelchair.  I am disabled person and
I am in a electrical chair.
I have a problem. Every time I move ,i am getting static coming through
the scanner. ALSO Either I not move around now and
when I take the pre-amplifier off ,but
It still does it. Is there anything I can do to  Fix this problem ?

Ps I used to have the uniden 200xlt scanner, and I used to have the
Uniden 200xlt and m-75 pre-amplifier hooked up together,
no static coming through on the uniden 200xlt  Scanner.

LET ME KNOW SOON YOU CAN PLEASE

PLEASE REPLY BY FAX ON THIS FAX NO. 060 561596 AT HOME

BEST REGARDS....THANK YOU....CARLO

PS I AM IN AUSTRALIA


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From [e-mail] Wed Oct 30 07:00:48 1996
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From: Carlo <@postoffice.csu.edu.au>
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Subject: problem camnis hsc-050
Date: Wed, 30 Oct 1996 13:32:00 -0800
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MESSAGE:
   HI.
Hi.
I got the wideband reveiver pre-amplifier' and 'camnis hsc-050 scanning
reveiver'.
They are hooked up to my  wheelchair.  I am disabled person and
I am in a electrical chair.
I have a problem. Every time I move ,i am getting static coming through
the scanner. ALSO Either I not move around now and
when I take the pre-amplifier off ,but
It still does it. Is there anything I can do to  Fix this problem ?

Ps I used to have the uniden 200xlt scanner, and I used to have the
Uniden 200xlt and m-75 pre-amplifier hooked up together,
no static coming through on the uniden 200xlt  Scanner.

LET ME KNOW SOON YOU CAN PLEASE

PLEASE REPLY BY FAX ON THIS FAX NO. 060 561596 AT HOME

BEST REGARDS....THANK YOU....CARLO

PS I AM IN AUSTRALIA


E-MAIL ON
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From: [e-mail] (Dr Pepper)
Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy.area51,alt.radio.scanner,rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Proposed trip to Area-51
Date: Mon, 28 Oct 1996 20:49:07 GMT
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I am planning another trip to the Rachel, Nevada area for a
Radio scanning trip of Area 51.  I have several ideas about
what I want to do and how to do it.  I am looking for
someone with the time, equipment, and similar interests.
I do NOT plan on trying to get past the "cammo dudes",
and I do not plan on trying to peek into the restricted area.
This is a RADIO expedition.  I have all of the related maps,
charts and quads, and will be using GPS  as well as other
sophisticated radio and radio locating equipment.  If anyone
is interested in joing me on this trip, please e-mail me at:
[e-mail].  I do NOT want any money
from you, and this is NOT  a scam.  I am planning to be
there in the mild weather of May, 1997.

Dr Pepper
10 - 2 - 4
Good Anytime


From [e-mail] Wed Oct 30 07:00:49 1996
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From: [e-mail](Steve S)
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Subject: Re: Proposed trip to Area-51
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In <[e-mail]> [e-mail]
(Dr Pepper) writes:
>
>I am planning another trip to the Rachel, Nevada area for a
>Radio scanning trip of Area 51.<snip>
>I do NOT plan on trying to get past the "cammo dudes",
>and I do not plan on trying to peek into the restricted area.
>Dr Pepper
>10 - 2 - 4
>Good Anytime

Good luck! I don't know if you'll hear anything good. I bet you'll get
better stuff in the casino/hotel. I'd be more interested in how many
different casinoes one can monitor from say the fifth story of the
Mirage.

Steve S.
KAF8111


From [e-mail] Wed Oct 30 07:00:50 1996
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From: [e-mail] (kEN Colburn)
Subject: Re: Proposed trip to Area-51
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i was planning a trip out there last summer but didn't make it.
Have fun! Post again closer to the date and maybe some of us can go.
i suppose you've seen the Glen Campbell stuff on the Net about A51?
I think he has a book on it too.
There's also plenty of info on the web if you search for Area 51 and UFOs.

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From [e-mail] Wed Oct 30 07:00:51 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Rob Brown)
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On Mon, 28 Oct 1996 20:49:07 GMT, [e-mail] (Dr
Pepper) wrote:

>
>I am planning another trip to the Rachel, Nevada area for a
>Radio scanning trip of Area 51.  I have several ideas about
>what I want to do and how to do it.  I am looking for
>someone with the time, equipment, and similar interests.
>I do NOT plan on trying to get past the "cammo dudes",
>and I do not plan on trying to peek into the restricted area.
>This is a RADIO expedition.  I have all of the related maps,
>charts and quads, and will be using GPS  as well as other
>sophisticated radio and radio locating equipment.  If anyone
>is interested in joing me on this trip, please e-mail me at:
>[e-mail].  I do NOT want any money
>from you, and this is NOT  a scam.  I am planning to be
>there in the mild weather of May, 1997.
>
>Dr Pepper
>10 - 2 - 4
>Good Anytime


Dr. Pepper:

     If you are not asking for money, then I must assume that you have
enough money to undertake such a trip.  I really think that with all
the problems in the world -- hunger, homelessness, the general moral
and ethical decay of our society -- it is wasteful and disgraceful
that you would spend your time and energy, lurking around in Nevada
with electronic equipment, like some ridiculous character in a Boris
Karloff movie.  I really think that if you have the energy to do such
a thing, then you should learn to expend it in dealing with things
that are going to help our world to progress.


Rob
[e-mail]


From [e-mail] Wed Oct 30 07:00:52 1996
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From: "Patrick D. Lukens" <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: Radio frequency changes
Date: Wed, 23 Oct 1996 10:58:41 -0700
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[e-mail] wrote:
>
> I was curious how often police can change their radio frequencies. I am
> considering buying a scanner that is preprogrammed with police frequencies
> and was wondering how the long the preprogrammed frequencies would be good.
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------
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Rarely if ever, if they stick with the same radio systems.  Since they
are allocated frequencies by the FCC, they are not likely to ever change
them.  UNLESS they are in the process of doing a system change over to a
trunked system, which requires changing out the radio equipment in all of
their cars, etc.  This, however, is happening more and more often.  Find
out what kind of system your local PD uses.  If it is an 800Mhz trunked
system, then they will likely be on those frequencies for some time to
come.  If not, find out if they plan on spending your money to buy a
trunked system.  If that, too is not the case, then you can count on
at least a few years of listening to the same agencies on the
same frequencies.


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From [e-mail] Wed Oct 30 07:00:53 1996
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From: Dave Booth <[e-mail]>
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[e-mail] wrote:
>
> I was curious how often police can change their radio frequencies. I am
> considering buying a scanner that is preprogrammed with police frequencies
> and was wondering how the long the preprogrammed frequencies would be good.
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------
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If would be to costly to the police depertment to keep changing there
freq's. So it's a good bet that if they are are on the 800's they will
stay there for a long time!
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From: [e-mail] (Evan Platt)
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Any scanner where you can't change the freq's in it isn't worth
investing it. Any new scanner can be programmed on the fly.

[e-mail] wrote:

>I was curious how often police can change their radio frequencies. I am
>considering buying a scanner that is preprogrammed with police frequencies
>and was wondering how the long the preprogrammed frequencies would be good.
>-----------------------------------------------------------------------
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From [e-mail] Wed Oct 30 07:00:55 1996
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From: [e-mail] (tyler)
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  And we all know that more customers means more money.
>
>Keep up the good work all you RS people!
>
>Taliesin
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>
Oh knock it off already.  It just makes me sick.  Just don't try to talk to us

about parts or radios or anything Rat Shack sells that you have no clue about.

 If you don't know.... Just say..."I don't know."   Not:  "Sure, we have that
right here."
tyler



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From [e-mail] Wed Oct 30 07:00:56 1996
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t
>Oh knock it off already.  It just makes me sick.  Just don't try to talk to u
s
>about parts or radios or anything Rat Shack sells that you have no clue about
.
> If you don't know.... Just say..."I don't know."   Not:  "Sure, we have that

>right here."
>tyler
Why people just think you are lying and leave pissed off that you
wouldn't help them.  Everyone comes into RadioShack to get help and
they think you know stuff even if you really don't!

Just think about it!


Chris



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ust say..."I don't know."   Not:  "Sure, we have that
>right here."
Why bother saying I don't know, 90% of the people think you really do
and you just don't want to help them and leave pissed off saying under
there breath, "They just don't want to help us!".


Chris





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From: [e-mail] (Bob Parnass, AJ9S)
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In article <[e-mail]>,
Scott Cochran  <[e-mail]> wrote:

    >Jimmy Simmons wrote:
    >>
    >>  Just in case some of you didn't know this yet, if you enjoy listening
    >> to REAL AUDIO on the internet,...
    >>   Dallas Police Department, LIVE 24 HOURS A DAY on REAL AUDIO...
    >>
    >>  Direct Webpage is:  http://www.audionet.com/radio/dallaspd/
    >>

    >It wouldn't work for me, maybe it was down for awhile.

Won't work for me either, due to the protective "firewall"
I go through to access the Web.  This wouldn't be a problem
if I used a commercial ISP (Internet Service Provider).


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 Just in case some of you didn't know this yet, if you enjoy listening
to REAL AUDIO on the internet, recently Dallas/Ft Worth Airport had
put up its ATC communications, well now you can ADD another to this list.

  Dallas Police Department, LIVE 24 HOURS A DAY on REAL AUDIO...

 Direct Webpage is:  http://www.audionet.com/radio/dallaspd/

 AudioNet is the sponsors for this innovative way to produce some
programing, you can goto their webpage and check out the lastest
things offered...

   http://www.audionet.com


   Jimmy, [e-mail]
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From: Scott Cochran <[e-mail]>
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Jimmy Simmons wrote:
>
>  Just in case some of you didn't know this yet, if you enjoy listening
> to REAL AUDIO on the internet, recently Dallas/Ft Worth Airport had
> put up its ATC communications, well now you can ADD another to this list.
>
>   Dallas Police Department, LIVE 24 HOURS A DAY on REAL AUDIO...
>
>  Direct Webpage is:  http://www.audionet.com/radio/dallaspd/
>
>  AudioNet is the sponsors for this innovative way to produce some
> programing, you can goto their webpage and check out the lastest
> things offered...
>
>    http://www.audionet.com
>
>    Jimmy, [e-mail]
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It wouldn't work for me, maybe it was down for awhile.


From [e-mail] Wed Oct 30 07:01:01 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Steve Work)
Subject: Re: Receiving traffic helicopter signals?
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Armando Stettner ([e-mail]) wrote:

: If it is microwave, I suspect it is pretty directional.  However, I
: suspect that it is microwave....

Not necessarily.  If it's in a flying helicopter, it would be quite
expensive to have an antenna on some type of motorized platform which
would keep it aimed at the home base while in flight.  IMO, it would be
more practical just to broadcast the signal omnidirectionally.




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gary sellani wrote:
>
> Steve Work wrote:
> >
> > Armando Stettner ([e-mail]) wrote:
> >
> > : If it is microwave, I suspect it is pretty directional.  However, I
> > : suspect that it is microwave....
> >
> > Not necessarily.  If it's in a flying helicopter, it would be quite
> > expensive to have an antenna on some type of motorized platform which
> > would keep it aimed at the home base while in flight.  IMO, it would be
> > more practical just to broadcast the signal omnidirectionally.

Nope, they are directional antennas and they are microwave. A number of
companies manufacture them with radomes over the antenna though, so you
cant see the moving parts. On the tower, usually the broadcast tower, the
receive antenna also tracks the helicopter. Its quite a complex system
with control equipment that keeps the two antennas aligned.


>
> The traffic helicoptors in the SF Bay Area are found between 450 and 451
> MHZ. KGO is 450.2125MHZ.

Your thinking of the Radio broadcast. Or perhaps the tv audio from the
cameraman is sent on the 450 frequencies. All the video is up in the M/W
portion.

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From [e-mail] Wed Oct 30 07:01:03 1996
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As far as recieving from the helecopters, first thing you have to find
out what frequency band they are operating in.  Usually they are near
the MDS (1900-2200 MHz), or they may be in the 7GHz band.  They may
either have syncronous antennas which track the recieving site or they
may run omni and the recieving site tracks the transmitted signal.
Their power is usually under 15 watts, and being microwave it IS line of
sight.  The video modulation is FM as are the audio carriers, usually
6.2 and 6.8 MHz, some have special subcarriers for other data.  Basiclly
they use the same equipment as the ENG trucks on the street and have to
share the same 2 bands with them.


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In article <54su6t$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] wrote:
>Wanted:Mods for my scanner Cell block etc.
Sorry for the repost !!


From [e-mail] Wed Oct 30 07:01:04 1996
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From: [e-mail]
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Subject: request updated Freqs for Austin, TX
Date: Fri, 25 Oct 1996 19:27:27 GMT
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Please send me updated Freqs for scanning
and shortwave listing if you have them for my area.

Does anybody know what freq. for the shuttle to pick up in Austin?

Other odd freqs for my area are appreciated.

Thank you so much!!!!!

[e-mail]


From [e-mail] Wed Oct 30 07:01:05 1996
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From: John Mackey---KA0SSF <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Richard Kendrick  was: Re: I am Mackey, hear me whine
Date: Tue, 29 Oct 1996 23:29:31 -0800
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Glen Quarnstrom wrote:

> [e-mail] (Richard Kendrick) wrote:
> <lenghty tirade, complete with name-calling, deleted>

> What is your point, except to further fan the flames?  Cheek has
> backed off.  If Mackey doesn't back off, killfile him.  Problem
> solved.
> You have just contributed to stirring the pot by addressing a problem
> that seems well on the way to being solved.


Yea, & he is STILL carrying on with his stupid bullshit in
e-mail.


What a fool.




From [e-mail] Wed Oct 30 07:01:06 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Raymond Miller)
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Subject: RS Patrolman Pocket Transistor Radio Question
Date: 21 Oct 1996 12:01:26 GMT
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Back in the late 60's or early 70's (don't recall which) Radio Shack
had a small pocket size transistor radio grey in color called the
patrolman (as well as a similar one for aircraft listening) that
had am and high vhf (may have had one with low vhf available too).
I had one and have no idea where it ever went. Does anyone ever see
any of these out there? If so, what type of price does a mint one
bring? Thanks for the information.
Regards, Ray Miller N2NJK


From [e-mail] Wed Oct 30 07:01:07 1996
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From: "Glenn Hansen" <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: RS Patrolman Pocket Transistor Radio Question
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Raymond Miller  wrote ...
> Back in the late 60's or early 70's (don't recall which) Radio Shack=20
> had a small pocket size transistor radio grey in color called the
> patrolman (as well as a similar one for aircraft listening) that
> had am and high vhf (may have had one with low vhf available too).
> I had one and have no idea where it ever went. Does anyone ever see
> any of these out there? If so, what type of price does a mint one
> bring? Thanks for the information.

Ray,
        Realistic Patrolman model # 12-629 Solid State-Squelch control.  VHF-AM =
 535-1605 kc and 147-175 Mc.
Even has a  1-1/4 by 1-3/4 schematic on the inside cover.  I have no =
idea as to the value of this thing.  I'm willing
to trade mine for the new Icom though. :-)

Glenn


From [e-mail] Wed Oct 30 07:01:08 1996
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From: Don Wall <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: RS Patrolman Pocket Transistor Radio Question
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Recently sold a Jetstream (the aircraft model), in very good
condition, working, for $10. Bought it at a yard sale for 25
cents.
Don Wall



From [e-mail] Wed Oct 30 07:01:09 1996
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From: [e-mail]
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Subject: RS232 Interface Output Question. (AOR et al.)
Date: 22 Oct 1996 10:56:04 -0700
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I have been away from scanners for about 7 years and am not
generally aware of what a typical computer 'interface' (serial)
on a scanner will do.  I understand that commands can be sent to
the scanner to tune the VFO and assorted other parameters...

Q:  Do scanners output the channel # / VFO frequency as they
    scan (not search) from memory channels?

 Basically I would like to construct a standalone display that
could display an alpha numeric 'tag' for the freq that
is being currently monitored (tuned).

I'd imagine that this could just be done by having the external
device tune the scanner, but that you lose some scan
speed that way.  The device would also have to be more complex
than if it only had to look up the frequenct and display a name.

Opinions and comments welcome.

Cheers,
        ...Alan Hawrylyshen (AR2700 owner)

PS-> Yes, I could have purchased a better scanner...


--
Alan Hawrylyshen           | The opinions expressed above are my own.
Vancouver, BC              | Pay no attention to the man behind the
Canada                     | curtain.


From [e-mail] Wed Oct 30 07:01:10 1996
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Subject: Re: RS232 Interface Output Question. (AOR et al.)
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[e-mail] (Douglas E. Mitton) writes:

> [e-mail] wrote:
>
> > Basically I would like to construct a standalone display that
> >could display an alpha numeric 'tag' for the freq that
> >is being currently monitored (tuned).
> [snip]
>
> The display unit would have to be intelligent, from what I've been
> reading.  Basically do what a PC would do ... take the place of the
[snip]

I figure that a motorola 68HC11 family device and an  4x40 or 4x20 char
LCD with two serial ports + 32K RAM should do the trick. Small too.

One port to run the scanner, and one to connect to the computer
for programming / OR, if I really felt ambitious, a few knobs to
allow for the onboard firmware to permit entry of the names / FQs.

I suppose only one serial port is required depending on the 'mode'
of operation.

--
Alan Hawrylyshen           | The opinions expressed above are my own.
Vancouver, BC              | Pay no attention to the man behind the
Canada                     | curtain.


From [e-mail] Wed Oct 30 07:01:11 1996
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From: Ben Hines <[e-mail]_This_When_replying>
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Subject: San Diego, CA Sheriff
Date: 27 Oct 1996 07:36:41 GMT
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In article <[e-mail]> Mike Hertel, [e-mail]
writes:
>Subject: Frequencies for San Diego, CA
>From: Mike Hertel, [e-mail]
>Date: 27 Oct 96 04:08:47 -0700
>>Does anyone has a complete list of frequecies for all of the sheriff
>units in San Diego county?  If so please post here.

Not sure if this is complete, it's from a list I have. I think the list
is originally from Bill Cheek, actually. (his BBS) The active/act stuff
were just my notes from a while back, the others are probably used as
well.

  39.3800 San Diego            Police     County (SDSO?)  - Unknown use
  45.9400 San Diego            Police     SDSO Repeats 453.500 (Eastern)
  72.8400 San Diego            Police     SDSO Fixed link - Borrego
 453.1000 San Diego    Act     Police     SDSO F08 (R) - Emergency
 453.2500 San Diego            Police     SDSO F13 (R/S) - Detectives
 453.2750 Chula Vista          Police     SDSO Detention Facility (S)
 453.4000 San Diego            Police     SDSO F06 (R) - Admin and
Detectives
 453.4250 San Diego    Act     Police     SDSO F09 (R) - North Tactical
 453.4250 San Diego            Police     SDSO F11 (S) MDT Units (Testing)
 453.5000 San Diego   Active   Police     SDSO F04 (R) - Eastern
 453.5750 San Diego   Active   Police     SDSO F07 (R) - Inquiry
 453.6250 San Diego            Police     SDSO Detention Facility (S)
 453.7000 El Cajon             Police     SDSO Detention Facility (S)
 453.7250 San Diego            Police     SDSO F01 (S) - Car to Car
 453.7500 San Diego   Active    Police     SDSO F02 (R) - North Coastal
 453.8250 San Diego   Active   Police     SDSO F10 (R) - South Tactical
 453.8250 San Diego            Police     SDSO F12 (S) - South Tactical
 453.8500 Santee               Police     SDSO Detention Facility (S)
 453.9250 San Diego  Act       Police     SDSO F03 (R) - North Inland
 453.9500 San Diego  Active    Police     SDSO F05 (R) - Southern
 453.9750 San Diego            Police     SDSO Mobile units - Unknown use
 460.1250 Santee               Police     SDSO Detention Facility (S)
 474.7               Active    Police     SDSO - Eastern        Dispatch


Funny comment heard from SDPD last night: "It's snowing on Mesa College!"

Right now from SDPD: high speed chase, FTY, eastbound division st @ 50
MPH+, throwing beer cans out window. Being called from the helo. Arent
saturday nights fun?

-Ben
--
[e-mail]           "You're either in with the lizard people
<http://sdcc17.ucsd.edu/~bhines/>     or you're not"    - Tori Amos


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From: [e-mail] ()
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Millard C. White ([e-mail]) wrote:
: Has anyone heard of a newsgroup for satellite TV?  I am trying to find
: info on DSS vs. Primestar

I found five:

alt.satellite.tv.crypt
alt.satellite.tv.europe
rec.video.satellite.dbs
rec.video.satellite.europe
rec.video.satellite.misc
rec.video.satellite.tvro




From [e-mail] Wed Oct 30 07:01:13 1996
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[e-mail] wrote:
: Millard C. White ([e-mail]) wrote:
: : Has anyone heard of a newsgroup for satellite TV?  I am trying to find
: : info on DSS vs. Primestar
:
: I found five:
: alt.satellite.tv.crypt
: alt.satellite.tv.europe
: rec.video.satellite.dbs
: rec.video.satellite.europe
: rec.video.satellite.misc
: rec.video.satellite.tvro

I just found a few more.  Here is the whole list:

     alt.binaries.satellite-tv
     alt.dss
     alt.satellite.tv.australasia
     alt.satellite.tv.crypt
     alt.satellite.tv.europe
     alt.satellite.tv.forsale
     fr.rec.tv.satellite
     it.hobby.satellite-tv
     rec.video.satellite.dbs
     rec.video.satellite.europe
     rec.video.satellite.misc
     rec.video.satellite.tvro
     tnn.dcom.satellite
     z-netz.telecom.satellit



From [e-mail] Wed Oct 30 07:01:14 1996
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From: Joe Makatura <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner,rec.radio.shortwave
Subject: Re: sat news group
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Millard C. White wrote:
>
> Has anyone heard of a newsgroup for satellite TV?  I am trying to find
> info on DSS vs. Primestar
>
> Please respond to me at [e-mail] or to these newsgroups
>
> Thanks
>
> MCW
> Tidewater, VA
try   rec.video.satellite.dbs

Joe


From [e-mail] Wed Oct 30 07:01:15 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Bob Hayward)
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Subject: Re: sat news group
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[e-mail] () wrote:

>Millard C. White ([e-mail]) wrote:
>: Has anyone heard of a newsgroup for satellite TV?  I am trying to find
>: info on DSS vs. Primestar
>
>I found five:
>
>alt.satellite.tv.crypt
>alt.satellite.tv.europe
>rec.video.satellite.dbs
>rec.video.satellite.europe
>rec.video.satellite.misc
>rec.video.satellite.tvro

I find alt.dss to be a good source of information.

--
Bob
[e-mail]


From [e-mail] Wed Oct 30 07:01:16 1996
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From: [e-mail] (John C. Kendall)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: SBE Opti-Scan
Date: Tue, 29 Oct 1996 00:37:02 GMT
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conel <[e-mail]> wrote:

>HELP.....Recently aquired a SBE Opti-Scan programable scanner. Model
>SBE-12SM. It is apparently programed by inserting a credit card sized
>card into a optical reader slot ! Does anyone have info on this unit
>or how the cards are punched ?
>                                       Thanks
>                                       [e-mail]
I owned an SBE Opti-Scan when they first came out (about 1977 or
1978).

The unit originally came with a book listing the codes for every
possible frequency.  I also developed a program for an early HP
programable calculator to print out the code for any given frequency.
Unfortunately, I cannot lay my hands on them at the moment.

However, I can tell you that the algorithm for the program was able to
be deduced from the codes on the cards.  That's how I did it.

The bottom line is that this receiver was never a very good performer.
It lacked preselection and was quite prone to images and intermod.
The VHF high band section in my unit also became microphonic after a
period of operation.  In metropolitan areas such as Los Angeles, the
UHF section was unusable because of interference and de-sensitizing
from other strong signals.

I returned my unit to the factory while it was under warranty for some
modifications.  This helped only slightly.

I replaced the unit after about a year.

The unit covered the following bands:

30-50 Mhz
150-170 Mhz
450-470 Mhz

It also covered either 470-490 or 500-512 depending on how it was
configured at the factory.  If you have the algorithm for the card
codes - it can receive outside these ranges a bit.

Hope this helps a little.

John
KO6JW




From [e-mail] Wed Oct 30 07:01:17 1996
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From: Doug Biegler <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: SBR superboat freq?
Date: Tue, 29 Oct 1996 20:27:32 -0800
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Does any have or know how to get SBR Superboat racing frequencies?
I will be in Key West for the world championships in Nov.
Thanks
Doug
[e-mail]


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Subject: SBR Superboat race frequencies
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Does any have or know how to get frequencies for SBR Superboat races?
Will be attending in Nov. at Key West.
Thanks, Doug
[e-mail]


From [e-mail] Wed Oct 30 07:01:18 1996
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From: Bob Bencsko <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Scanner Freq Database Program
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I am looking for a good, pref Windows based, Scanner/VHF Ham radio Freq
Database program. Can anyone point me in the right direction to find
some and let be know what they use if any...

Bob
[e-mail]


From [e-mail] Wed Oct 30 07:01:19 1996
From: [e-mail] (Jeffrey Mielke)
Subject: Scanner Frequency Help
Date: 28 Oct 96 14:43:57 -0800
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Does anyone out there have a list of scanner frequencies for southern
Nevada (Las Vegas area)? I'd sure appreciate any assistance. Trying
to program my new FT-50R. Thanks for the help.


From [e-mail] Wed Oct 30 07:01:20 1996
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From: "Robert H. Eisner" <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: Scanner Frequency Help (LAS VEGAS)
Date: Mon, 28 Oct 1996 19:36:44 -0500
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To: Jeffrey Mielke <[e-mail]>

Jeffrey Mielke wrote:
>
> Does anyone out there have a list of scanner frequencies for southern
> Nevada (Las Vegas area)? I'd sure appreciate any assistance. Trying
> to program my new FT-50R. Thanks for the help.

Hi Jeffrey,

Check out the following URLs for Las Vegas:

 http://www.skylink.net/~pay/scanner.html
 http://exo.com/~fricke/vegasradio.html
 http://www.ufomind.com/area51/orgs/janet/lv_air_freqs.html
 http://members.aol.com/j4dice/frequencies/travel/lasvegas.html

Bob


From [e-mail] Wed Oct 30 07:01:21 1996
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From: [e-mail] (D Stark)
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Subject: Re: scanning and the law?
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In article <54dva7$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (gunner) wrote:
>Does anyone have the poop on listening to cellulars and cordless
>phones?  In layperson's terminology?
>
>1)  Are they equally illegal, technically, but rarely enforced?''

That is exactly right.

>2)  If it were enforced, is it a misdemeanor?

I believe any violation of a Federal statute is a felony.

>3)  Is it condoned more being done at a base, rather than a mobile
>scanner?

Makes no difference.

>4)  Are their any blatant precedents where someone was prosecuted for
>passive monitoring?

That depends.  What do you mean by "passive" monitoring?  If
you mean just quietly sitting at home listening and not
telling anybody about it, then prosecution is highly
unlikely.  There usually has to be a complaint before there
is any detection and enforcement.

If you mean monitoring and then sharing "spicy" information,
people have been prosecuted for that.  It should also be
said that people have avoided prosecution when they have
reported criminal activity that they have overheard.

>5)  Could the law legally confiscate your scanner?

Yes.

For further details, check
http://www.frontiernet.net/~dstark/scanlaws.html

(after November 1, the URL for that page will be
http://www.frontiernet.net/~dstark/laws_ny.html)

73 de Dave, NF2G


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In article <54f0jt$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (WatnNY) wrote:

>(County Sheriff?) -- BUT here in NY they CAN NOT, according to the law,
>CONFISCATE your scanner. They CAN write you a ticket for the
>use/possession of it in your vehicle, but CAN NOT confiscate it.

I beg your pardon?  When did that change?  They can either
confiscate the scanner, or if you cannot surrender it they
can and will impound the whole car.

And don't just look in the V&T for the answer. Confiscation
is, I think, covered under the CPL.  I don't have a copy yet
(next semester).

If the law has indeed changed, I would be happy to hear
about it.  I think the NY law as it has been enforced tends
to violate constitutional protections against unreasonable
search and seizure, but the NY Court of Appeals is even more
liberal than the US Supreme Court and people in cars have NO
privacy in this state.

73 de Dave, NF2G


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From: [e-mail] (Dr Pepper)
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Subject: Re: scanning and the law?
Date: Mon, 21 Oct 1996 16:06:16 GMT
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On 21 Oct 1996 01:10:21 -0400, [e-mail] (WatnNY) wrote:

>>5)  Could the law legally confiscate your scanner?
>
>You betchum, Red Ryder, , , ,In those States where it is illegal to have a
>
>scanner in an automobile, they'll rip off your $400 scanner in a New York
>heartbeat,  :-{
>
>Dr Pepper -- you should rephrase this. In NY it's illegal to have a
>scanner in your vehicle unless you are a police officer, a peace officer,
>OR receive permission from the local governing law enforcement agency
>(County Sheriff?) -- BUT here in NY they CAN NOT, according to the law,
>CONFISCATE your scanner. They CAN write you a ticket for the
>use/possession of it in your vehicle, but CAN NOT confiscate it.

Now lets see if I have this right, , , , ,
They can give you a ticket for violating the law, but then they
allow you to continue on your way, while you continue  to VIOLATE
THE LAW ?  Nope, I don't think so.  And if you get caught in
Virginia, Your scanner AND your Radar detector are BOTH toast.

You are right, however, I should have added the words "some of"
before the words "those States"

BTW, "New York heart beat" is rhetorical. Even though the ONLY
time in my entire life that I was asked for a bribe to fix a
speeding ticket was by a New York State Trooper.


Dr Pepper
10 - 2 - 4
Good Anytime


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From: [e-mail] (John Kracke)
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Subject: Re: scanning and the law?
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[e-mail] (Dr Pepper) wrote:

>On 21 Oct 1996 01:10:21 -0400, [e-mail] (WatnNY) wrote:

>>>5)  Could the law legally confiscate your scanner?
>>
>>You betchum, Red Ryder, , , ,In those States where it is illegal to have a
>>
>>scanner in an automobile, they'll rip off your $400 scanner in a New York
>>heartbeat,  :-{
>>
I Think I would challenge this (the confiscation) in the courts...
you might be surprised...

>>Dr Pepper -- you should rephrase this. In NY it's illegal to have a
>>scanner in your vehicle unless you are a police officer, a peace officer,
>>OR receive permission from the local governing law enforcement agency
>>(County Sheriff?) -- BUT here in NY they CAN NOT, according to the law,
>>CONFISCATE your scanner. They CAN write you a ticket for the
>>use/possession of it in your vehicle, but CAN NOT confiscate it.

>Now lets see if I have this right, , , , ,
>They can give you a ticket for violating the law, but then they
>allow you to continue on your way, while you continue  to VIOLATE
>THE LAW ?  Nope, I don't think so.

So let me get this straight... If I am speeding and get stopped by a
cop.. and he finds that I have a cracked windshield and broken tail
light, he will confiscate my car????  Nope I Don't Think so!!!!!!!


>And if you get caught in
>Virginia, Your scanner AND your Radar detector are BOTH toast.

I think you should revisit this thought.  In Virginia, you will not
lose your scanner or radar detector..  If your scanner or radar
detector is confiscated, then either you did something to really piss
off the officer, you were commiting a bank robbery or other serious
crime.  They simply do not confiscate these items.   If you have a
scanner in the car and are not commiting a bank robbery the officer
might just ask you to put it in the trunk if he even bothers with it.
Radar detectors are handled the same way... put it in the trunk after
you disable it (break the power cord).  Then the officer will let you
go away....after he has given you a ticket.   Oh, yes, In most states,
even New Jersey, a licensed amateur radio operator can have a scanner
in thier vehicle...
                                John

"The opinions expressed herein are strictly those of the Author and do
not necessarily reflect those of GRCI..."



From [e-mail] Wed Oct 30 07:01:26 1996
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>(County Sheriff?) -- BUT here in NY they CAN NOT, according to the law,
>CONFISCATE your scanner. They CAN write you a ticket for the
>use/possession of it in your vehicle, but CAN NOT confiscate it.

I beg your pardon?  When did that change?  They can either
confiscate the scanner, or if you cannot surrender it they
can and will impound the whole car.

Dave -- read just more than the law -- case law says the cop who gets you
for it can NOT confiscate the scanner. I should probably therefore clarify
and say the judge may be able to IF found guilty.


From [e-mail] Wed Oct 30 07:01:27 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Mike Harpe)
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[e-mail] (WatnNY) writes:

>NOT in New York, though a lot of people will tell you that you can.

I would check this.  There is a Federal pre-emption of laws that regulate
scanner possession by licensed Amateurs.  This was done a few years ago and
caused many states to re-write their laws.  Kentucky is one of these states
as is Indiana.  They both did so very reluctantly.

Mike Harpe, N4PLE
Jeffersonville, IN  47130



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My understanding of scanners in cars is that if you have a ham
license, the FEDS say you can have a mobile scanner.  I carry a letter
stating that.  I believe I got it from ARRL.


[e-mail] (D Stark) wrote:

>In article <54dva7$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (gunner) wrote:
>>Does anyone have the poop on listening to cellulars and cordless
>>phones?  In layperson's terminology?
>>
>>1)  Are they equally illegal, technically, but rarely enforced?''

>That is exactly right.

>>2)  If it were enforced, is it a misdemeanor?

>I believe any violation of a Federal statute is a felony.

>>3)  Is it condoned more being done at a base, rather than a mobile
>>scanner?

>Makes no difference.

>>4)  Are their any blatant precedents where someone was prosecuted for
>>passive monitoring?

>That depends.  What do you mean by "passive" monitoring?  If
>you mean just quietly sitting at home listening and not
>telling anybody about it, then prosecution is highly
>unlikely.  There usually has to be a complaint before there
>is any detection and enforcement.

>If you mean monitoring and then sharing "spicy" information,
>people have been prosecuted for that.  It should also be
>said that people have avoided prosecution when they have
>reported criminal activity that they have overheard.

>>5)  Could the law legally confiscate your scanner?

>Yes.

>For further details, check
>http://www.frontiernet.net/~dstark/scanlaws.html

>(after November 1, the URL for that page will be
>http://www.frontiernet.net/~dstark/laws_ny.html)

>73 de Dave, NF2G




From [e-mail] Wed Oct 30 07:01:30 1996
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From: [e-mail] (WatnNY)
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Subject: Re: scanning and the law?
Date: 22 Oct 1996 15:03:29 -0400
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 Oh, yes, In most states, even New Jersey, a licensed amateur radio
operator can have a scanner in thier vehicle...

NOT in New York, though a lot of people will tell you that you can.

Mike
Watertown, NY


From [e-mail] Wed Oct 30 07:01:31 1996
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I would check this.  There is a Federal pre-emption of laws that regulate
scanner possession by licensed Amateurs.

In NY the Vehicle and Traffic Law is VERY clear that the radio in question
in possession (in the vehicle) HAS to be an amateur radio, NOT a scanner


From [e-mail] Wed Oct 30 07:01:32 1996
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From: [e-mail] (D Stark)
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In article <54iebp$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (John Kracke) wrote:
>[e-mail] (Dr Pepper) wrote:
>
>>On 21 Oct 1996 01:10:21 -0400, [e-mail] (WatnNY) wrote:
>
>>>>5)  Could the law legally confiscate your scanner?
>>>
>>>You betchum, Red Ryder, , , ,In those States where it is illegal to have a
>>>
>>>scanner in an automobile, they'll rip off your $400 scanner in a New York
>>>heartbeat,  :-{
>>>
>I Think I would challenge this (the confiscation) in the courts...
>you might be surprised...

Already been tried.  The confiscations stand.  The only
"case law" about it is a NY Attorney General's Opinion that
basically says they can take your scanner but they have to
return it after trial.

73 de Dave, NF2G



From [e-mail] Wed Oct 30 07:01:33 1996
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From: [e-mail] (D Stark)
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In article <54j0o4$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] wrote:
>My understanding of scanners in cars is that if you have a ham
>license, the FEDS say you can have a mobile scanner.  I carry a letter
>stating that.  I believe I got it from ARRL.

That is legally incorrect, and the ARRL has never told
anyone such.  The courts decide what the laws mean, not the
ARRL.

You may have gotten a letter explaining why letting hams
have mobile scanners is a good idea, but the League clearly
states that a ham rig that receives out-of-band is different
from a scanner that does not transmit.

73 de Dave, NF2G


From [e-mail] Wed Oct 30 07:01:34 1996
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From: [e-mail] (D Stark)
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In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (
Mike Harpe) wrote:
>[e-mail] (WatnNY) writes:
>
>>NOT in New York, though a lot of people will tell you that you can.
>
>I would check this.  There is a Federal pre-emption of laws that regulate
>scanner possession by licensed Amateurs.  This was done a few years ago and
>caused many states to re-write their laws.  Kentucky is one of these states
>as is Indiana.  They both did so very reluctantly.

Not true.  The FCC does not have Constitutional authority
over state Motor Vehicle Departments.  The Federal courts
have already held that state regulation of equipment that
can or cannot be used in cars is a lawful exercise of their
police power and will not be preempted by any Federal
agency.

Also, NY state courts have ruled (the cites are on my
website at www.frontiernet.net/~dstark/scanlaws.html) that
the state V&T section prohibiting scanners is not preempted
because it only regulates a specific kind of receiver and
has a specific allowance for Federally-licensed ham
operators.  It does not, however, say that a ham license
automatically entitles you to have a mobile scanner.

73 de Dave, NF2G


From [e-mail] Wed Oct 30 07:01:35 1996
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From: [e-mail] (HH357)
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In article <[e-mail]>,
[e-mail] (Dr Pepper) writes:

>
>>Boy, this sucks.  What if you have a portable scanner (handheld) and you
>>go somewhere in your car?  Are you obligated to hide it along with your
>>gun?  This is rediculous!
>>
>>*** Only if your gun isn't legally registered in NY !!! Otherwise, just
>>hide the scanner !!!
>
>And they're comin' to getcha, haha, haha, , , ,
>
>First they register your guns.
>Then they register your radios.
>
>Read the Turner Diaries (Do a net search)

The trouble with the Turner diaries is that it is a piece of neo-nazi
trash.   It starts out interestingly enough, but slowly and surely it gets
more and more racist.  So while it has an interesting plot, it gets pretty
sicko at the end.  Especially about 'race mixers' and 'The Day of the
Rope'.

I am not a fiction reader, but the ad I saw I a gun magazine peaked my
fancy, and I ordered it not knowing any better.   So while I can now say I
have read it, I wouldn't reccomend it.
           cheers


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From: [e-mail] (Dr Pepper)
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On 24 Oct 1996 19:37:36 -0400, [e-mail] (WatnNY) wrote:

>Boy, this sucks.  What if you have a portable scanner (handheld) and you
>go somewhere in your car?  Are you obligated to hide it along with your
>gun?  This is rediculous!
>
>*** Only if your gun isn't legally registered in NY !!! Otherwise, just
>hide the scanner !!!

And they're comin' to getcha, haha, haha, , , ,

First they register your guns.
Then they register your radios.

Read the Turner Diaries (Do a net search)

Dr Pepper
10 - 2 - 4
Good Anytime


From [e-mail] Wed Oct 30 07:01:36 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Attache)
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Subject: Scanning as a hobby
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I want to get a scanner in the near future, but I have to convince my mother
that radio scannign is a real hobby, what hobby IS there to radio scanning
apart from listening to it?
I would beinterested as well :-)
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From [e-mail] Wed Oct 30 07:01:38 1996
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From: Wes Padilla <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: Scanning as a hobby
Date: Sun, 27 Oct 1996 21:54:17 -0800
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D Stark wrote:
>
> In article <54p73t$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Paul Cordin
gley) wrote:
>
> >frequencies or rare and unusual stations. This may lead you to getting
> >your ham ticket, or taking technology courses, or even studying for a
> >career in radio or telecommunications. You meet some nice people.
> >Mostly it's just fun.
>
> It could also lead to a career in law enforcement,
> firefighting or some other aspect of public safety. Many
> have been bitten by the "bug" early in life while listening
> to a scanner.
>
> 73 de Dave, NF2GOr becoming a Pilot,
Wes


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From: [e-mail] (Brian Albert Doreste)
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Subject: Semasoft POCSAG decoder question
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I have tried to use the Semasoft POCSAG decoder, but the only message
that I get is 'PREAMBLE' and I can't get anything to decode.  What
does this mean, and has anyone had any luck with this program?  If
anyone has gotten this to work, what frequencies are you listening to
and what kind of scanner do you have?  I am using a BC700A.  Thanks
for your help.

- Brian


Brian A Doreste
139 Haines Street            email: [e-mail]
Newark, DE 19711-5328 USA    University of Delaware
Collection of either address for commercial uses is prohibited



From [e-mail] Wed Oct 30 07:01:39 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Luke Pickering)
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Subject: Re: Semasoft POCSAG decoder question
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In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] says...

> have any specific knowledge of this decoder, but most
>POCSAG units I have seen need a direct tap from the discriminator, so
>just plugging into a headphone/speaker jack simply won't fly...

Actually it will, albeit not as well as a direct connect. Either Semasoft
or PD will function with a simple audio connection interface but PD is
the only one that really allows 'direct' data input since Semasoft uses a
sound card....

Cheers, Luke.

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From [e-mail] Wed Oct 30 07:01:40 1996
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From: Mike Agner <[e-mail]>
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Brian Albert Doreste wrote:
>
> I have tried to use the Semasoft POCSAG decoder, but the only message
> that I get is 'PREAMBLE' and I can't get anything to decode.  What
> does this mean, and has anyone had any luck with this program?  If
> anyone has gotten this to work, what frequencies are you listening to
> and what kind of scanner do you have?  I am using a BC700A.  Thanks
> for your help.
>
> - Brian
>
> Brian A Doreste
> 139 Haines Street            email: [e-mail]
> Newark, DE 19711-5328 USA    University of Delaware
> Collection of either address for commercial uses is prohibited  Brian, I don
't have any specific knowledge of this decoder, but most
POCSAG units I have seen need a direct tap from the discriminator, so
just plugging into a headphone/speaker jack simply won't fly...
  Good luck...Mike


From [e-mail] Wed Oct 30 07:01:41 1996
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From: [e-mail](Anthony D. Proctor )
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Is there any way to make the 8K sort the frequencies in the banks. I
have a AR2500 and it sorts the freqs in each bank automatically to
improve scan speed. I've not seen this in ScanCat either.


From [e-mail] Wed Oct 30 07:01:42 1996
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In article <54uk4c$[e-mail]>,
        [e-mail](Anthony D. Proctor ) wrote:

>Is there any way to make the 8K sort the frequencies in the banks. I
>have a AR2500 and it sorts the freqs in each bank automatically to
>improve scan speed. I've not seen this in ScanCat either.

 Unfortunately, no.  I have tried this using what I thought was a clever
sequence of MOVE's and COPY's from the scanner keypad, and would work on any
bank to sort it in ascending frequency order, however, I invariably always
had one or two that were still out of order.  It drove me nuts, so I stopped
trying to figure out a good way to do it.  It involved writing down the
channels in a bank and their frequencies, then sorting them on paper and
going back and forth on the scanner.

Seems to me the only quick way to do it is to upload a bank in to a software
program and re-sort, then download back into the radio.

This is indeed a feature that AOR should have put into this scanner.
Perhaps even a sort alphabetically by alphanumeric tag (although scan speed
would suffer).

Mike



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Mike Mayer ([e-mail]) wrote:
: In article <54uk4c$[e-mail]>,
:       [e-mail](Anthony D. Proctor ) wrote:

: >Is there any way to make the 8K sort the frequencies in the banks. I
: >have a AR2500 and it sorts the freqs in each bank automatically to
: >improve scan speed. I've not seen this in ScanCat either.

What is the best order, acending or decending frequency ?

:  Unfortunately, no.  I have tried this using what I thought was a clever
: sequence of MOVE's and COPY's from the scanner keypad, and would work on any
: bank to sort it in ascending frequency order, however, I invariably always
: had one or two that were still out of order.  It drove me nuts, so I stopped
: trying to figure out a good way to do it.  It involved writing down the
: channels in a bank and their frequencies, then sorting them on paper and
: going back and forth on the scanner.

: Seems to me the only quick way to do it is to upload a bank in to a software
: program and re-sort, then download back into the radio.

It is pretty easy with their windows software.

: This is indeed a feature that AOR should have put into this scanner.
: Perhaps even a sort alphabetically by alphanumeric tag (although scan speed
: would suffer).

: Mike


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From [e-mail] Wed Oct 30 07:01:45 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Dr Pepper)
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Subject: Sparta LA Police ???
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I just saw that the Sparta LA Police Department
has new handhelds. The antennas look like 800 mHz.
Does anyone know if they are trunked?  I wonder
where Chief Gillespy got the funding?
Dr Pepper
10 - 2 - 4
Good Anytime


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From: [e-mail](David Palmer )
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In <[e-mail]> [e-mail]
(Dr Pepper) writes:
>
>I just saw that the Sparta LA Police Department
>has new handhelds. The antennas look like 800 mHz.
>Does anyone know if they are trunked?  I wonder
>where Chief Gillespy got the funding?

Prob'ly got special law enforcement funding from Clinton due to the
high murder rate in his town.

That, or he is taking bribes from some moonshiners.


--
David Palmer                    [e-mail]
Monterey, CA


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On 27 Oct 1996 04:34:54 GMT, [e-mail](David Palmer )
wrote:

>In <[e-mail]> [e-mail]
>(Dr Pepper) writes:
>>
>>I just saw that the Sparta LA Police Department
>>has new handhelds. The antennas look like 800 mHz.
>>Does anyone know if they are trunked?  I wonder
>>where Chief Gillespy got the funding?
>
>Prob'ly got special law enforcement funding from Clinton due to the
>high murder rate in his town.
>
>That, or he is taking bribes from some moonshiners.
>
>
>--
>David Palmer                   [e-mail]
>Monterey, CA
NNNNNnAaaaah, , , ,   Chief Gilespie [sic] would't do anything
dishonest.  Would he?  You may be right about Clinton, though.
Dr Pepper
10 - 2 - 4
Good Anytime


From [e-mail] Wed Oct 30 07:01:47 1996
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Subject: Spectrum Band Range Terminology
Date: Sat, 26 Oct 1996 20:40:17 -0700
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I am aware of the following frequency ranges and their typical
designations (i.e. "VHF", "UHF", etc):

LF   (Low Frequency)              30 kHz  - 300 kHz
MF   (Medium Frequency)           300 kHz - 3 MHz
HF   (High Frequency)             3 MHz   - 30 MHz
VHF  (Very High Frequency)        30 MHz  - 300 MHz
UHF  (Ultra High Frequency)       300 MHz - 3 GHz
SHF  (Super High Frequency)       3 GHz   - 30 GHz
EHF  (Extremely High Frequency)   30 GHz  - 300 GHz

However, I do not know the frequency ranges for the ELF and VLF
bands.  Could someone possibly pass these my way?

ELF  (Extremely Low Frequency)    ? kHz   - ? kHz
VLF  (Very Low Frequency)         ? kHz   - 30 kHz

Also, what are the ranges for the Longwave, Mediumwave, and
Shortwave bands commonly seen on shortwave radios?  Are they
congruent with the LF, MF and HF bands listed above?

Thanks in advance,

Brian Petersen
[e-mail]


From [e-mail] Wed Oct 30 07:01:48 1996
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From: [e-mail] (F. Barry Mulligan)
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[e-mail] (Brian Petersen) asked:
> ... the frequency ranges for the ELF and VLF bands.
> ... what are the ranges for the Longwave, Mediumwave, and Shortwave bands

As defined by international treaty, currently the "Radio Regulations"
(Geneva, 1982), the designations for the bands are:


Freq.        30kHz   300kHz    3MHZ     30MHz    300MHz    3GHz     30GHz
        VLF   |   LF   |   MF   |   HF   |   VHF   |   UHF  |   SHF  |   EHF
              |        |        |        |         |        |        |
Band  <--4----|---5----|---6----|---7----|----8----|----9---|---10---|---11-->
              |        |        |        |         |        |        |
Wave-         |   lw   |   mw   |   sw   |         |        |        |
 length      10km    1000m     100m     10m        1m      10cm      1cm


After using up the adjectives very/ultra/super/extremely, they gave up and
band 12 (300-3000 GHz) has no name. The bands below 9 kHz (the lowest freq.
subject to treaty) are usually refered to as ELF.
                                                             /* barry /&


From [e-mail] Wed Oct 30 07:01:49 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Richard Songhurst)
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On Fri, 18 Oct 1996 20:33:32 GMT, Jon Posner <[e-mail]> wrote:
: Greetings.  Can you tell me where to purchase a good speed dialing
: device.  i.e. for getting through to constantly busy phone #'s etc.  I'd
: be interested in both software for Mac  or a stand-alone device.  Thanks
: in advance.  -Jon

Most phone companies have a "*66 Call Again" feature that you can subscribe
to. The feature will call you back when the line is free and will connect
you up. At least I know my telco (B.C. Tel.) has it, and if your company
is owned by GTE, they would have the same network equipment and services.
--
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Richard Songhurst
email: [e-mail]


From [e-mail] Wed Oct 30 07:01:50 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Ken Landen)
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I just purchased a used SC150, but the guy did'nt have a manual, so Im
trying to wing it, anybody, know how to use this thing? Will Uniden send
me one if I contact them? If not can someone photocopy the Manual for me
I'll be happy to cover the cost of printing and shipping. By the way how
do you tell if its charging is their any type of indicator?, and do you
just press turbo and it switches over? Please e-mail me or post your
response here thanks
Ken
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From: "Andrew R. Gozdziewski" <[e-mail]>
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To: Ken <[e-mail]>

Ken Landen wrote:
>
> I just purchased a used SC150, but the guy did'nt have a manual, so Im
> trying to wing it, anybody, know how to use this thing? Will Uniden send
> me one if I contact them? If not can someone photocopy the Manual for me
> I'll be happy to cover the cost of printing and shipping. By the way how
> do you tell if its charging is their any type of indicator?, and do you
> just press turbo and it switches over? Please e-mail me or post your
> response here thanks
> Ken
> --
>

Hi!

I have a Sportcat 150 that I bought last year.  I also recently bought two
Uniden GMR100s used without a manual.  I called up Uniden and they sent me a
Owners Manual for $7.50 plus tax.  They Sportcat manual is pretty thick, so I
think it would be worth it!

Uniden Phone Number:

1-800-297-1023

Andrew


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From: [e-mail] (Beavis)
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Subject: SS-70A Descambler
Date: Wed, 30 Oct 1996 06:42:32 GMT
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Does anyone know if there is any better unit then the Ramsey SS-70A?
If there is or is not is this a good unit or is it junk?


                        Thanks George


Please e-mail with your reply.



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Snipped to fit... (imported from somewhere else)...

On Tue, 22 Oct 1996 14:46:58 GMT, [e-mail] (Wong) wrote:
>Some phones have very strong magnetic speaker and I was wondering it
>will cause any harmful effect to our health?
>It is so strong that it can lift up a thumb clip.
>Can anyone who know please elaborate on it. Thank you.

MJane!

I've never considered it, but now that you've mentioned it,  WOW!...
This evening after my long commute to and from work,  I'm taking a
chisel and hammer to my  SIX  BOSE SPEAKERS, located  ALL AROUND ME,
in front of me,  next to me in the door panels and rest assured,  I
won't forget that pair  BEHIND  me either!  They all must go!

Monday I am mounting a expedition,  I want you to be in charge,  to
both the North Pole and South to dig-up those damned BIG MAGNETS the
DEMOCRATS  burried lo those many years ago, used to keep all races
POLARIZED!

Our plan is to MOVE those magnets to the Moon.  Now,  here on Earth,
one simply tosses a empty can into the air and  Zap!,  the can is on
it's way to a crater and half of our ecology problem is solved!

MJane,  please  don't  forget the MAGNETS on your REFRIGERATOR DOOR
because they were placed there to  'get'  your FOOD!    'Oh Damned!...
The MICROWAVE's gotta' go too!  No Microwaves  without a  HUGE MAGNET!


Be advised,  our next Newsletter reveals that  DENTISTS  are part of
'the plan' too!   Dentists have placed tons of SILVER  fillings in our
heads, because it's a well known fact that Silver is one of the BEST
CONDUCTORS in the World(!)... thus  assuring  each of us would RECEIVE
"MAXIMUM MAGNETIC PULL"  ("MMP")  right UP to our  BRAINS, 24-hours a
day!   ARGGGG!

Warn everyone now!  Don't go to any more LARGE STORES  either!  They
exposing our  BODIES  to known QUANTITIES of  PHOTONS,  measured at
MICROWAVES(!),  all part of  'the evil ploy'  and cleverly disguised
as:  AUTOMATIC DOOR OPENERS!  But the trick is, if you must go,  Let
someone YOU DON'T LIKE  go in first!  You RUSH in - BEFORE  the door
closes.

MJane, these are all  FACTS,   each proven by utilizing the well known
method where we place our arms out even with the horizon and spin
round-and-round-and-round, until we actually  CANCEL  the evil
Magnetic Influence by spinning  FASTER  than the Gravitational Pull!
Very similar to the  PULL  I am placing on your leg now.  Notice when
one  STOPS  how everything now  MOVES on it's own?   This is how life
REALLY IS, but soon, the magnets will all have their way.

Your Uncle T.
WA6IGJ



From [e-mail] Wed Oct 30 07:01:53 1996
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From: "Robert H. Eisner" <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner,alt.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Taco Bell Drive-Threw freq. Here!
Date: Thu, 24 Oct 1996 13:25:48 +0000
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Draco wrote:
>
> This is the freq. for Taco Bell drive- threw.  You will only here the
> drive- threw employee, "Well come to Taco Bell ..." ,the costumers
> voice goes to a speaker and is not a freq. signal.
>
> 154.520Mhz &  159.890Mhz (freq. tested in California)
>
> -Draco

Hi Draco,

Taco Bell should be on 154.515 (not 154.520).  The matching speaker
frequency (customer) should be 33.160.

Are you sure you're not receiving some kind of image for 159.890?

Bob


From [e-mail] Wed Oct 30 07:01:54 1996
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From: sean <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Target Stores
Date: Sun, 27 Oct 1996 10:05:52 -0800
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Does anyone know what frequ.that Target uses.  They run around with
handheld 2 ways


From [e-mail] Wed Oct 30 07:01:55 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Joost)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner,nl.markt
Subject: Re: Te koop aangeboden: FRG-9600
Date: Wed, 23 Oct 1996 20:01:30 GMT
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Hi guys,

        +Wegens be-eindiging hobby te koop:
                -Ging wanga wobber ing tong blarg.
        +Goede staat. Incl. manual en binnen-antenne.
                -Squif de quop shing tang English zong
                -Usenet und waddayoutalkinabout?

Ignore him, he's trying to sell a FRG-9600 in dutch in an english
newsgroup. Some guys are *sooooo* stupid. I am almost ashamed of being
a dutchman.

Wishes,

Joost van Stuyvenberg
Amsterdam, The Netherlands
[e-mail]




From [e-mail] Wed Oct 30 07:01:56 1996
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From: Dieter Herchet <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Tech info needed !
Date: Fri, 25 Oct 1996 14:39:33 -0700
Organization: ASI, Siemens AG, Erlangen, Germany
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Howard Brayman wrote:
>
> For Sale:
>
> Radio Shack PRO-43 with cellular modification.
> Includes ac adapter/charger and manual.
>
> Price: $215.  Includes shipping (continental US).
>
> [e-mail]  716-722-0068 (days)
>
> Howard Brayman

Hi,

I'm interessted. Please tell me more about tech. spec's. Because over
here in Germany it's hard to get the RS-catalog.

Tnx for your reply.

- Dieter -


From [e-mail] Wed Oct 30 07:01:57 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Tim Moore)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: TOYS R US Cordless Phones?
Date: 21 Oct 1996 12:14:21 GMT
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In article <[e-mail]>, From "Robert H. Eisner"
<[e-mail]>, the following was written:
> I've seen listings in the FCC files for same frequencies that are
> allocted to McDonalds (35.02/154.600), but could never figure out
> why a Toys R US would have headsets.  This Toys R US was using
> 457.5875/467.8125 the same combination that used by KFC.

Toys R Us has a floor walker that has a phone that looks like one of
those headsets that McDonalds uses. The floor walker runs around the
store to tell callers if certain products are in stock when they call --
neat service!! These headsets are not "phones" but rather private uhf
radios that hook into the stores phone system. Kind of like ham radios,
in the 2meter band, being able to hook into repeaters and make phone
calls thru it.



From [e-mail] Wed Oct 30 07:01:58 1996
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From: "Robert H. Eisner" <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner,alt.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: TOYS R US Cordless Phones?
Date: Mon, 21 Oct 1996 11:09:52 +0000
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Tim Moore wrote:
>
> In article <[e-mail]>, From "Robert H. Eisner"
> <[e-mail]>, the following was written:
> > I've seen listings in the FCC files for same frequencies that are
> > allocted to McDonalds (35.02/154.600), but could never figure out
> > why a Toys R US would have headsets.  This Toys R US was using
> > 457.5875/467.8125 the same combination that used by KFC.
>
> Toys R Us has a floor walker that has a phone that looks like one of
> those headsets that McDonalds uses. The floor walker runs around the
> store to tell callers if certain products are in stock when they call --
> neat service!! These headsets are not "phones" but rather private uhf
> radios that hook into the stores phone system. Kind of like ham radios,
> in the 2meter band, being able to hook into repeaters and make phone
> calls thru it.

Hi Tim,

This explains why I've been getting a dead carrier in the 457.xxxx range
frequencies everytime I drive by a Toys R US, Hechingers or Home Depot
store.  Hechingers and Home Depot are Home Supply/Hardware Stores in
the Washington DC area.

I wonder if anyone out there has come across one on 35.02/154.600???

Thanks,
Bob


From [e-mail] Wed Oct 30 07:01:59 1996
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From: [e-mail]
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner,alt.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: TOYS R US Cordless Phones?
Date: 26 Oct 1996 22:55:59 GMT
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In article <[e-mail]> <54erdl$[e-mail]> <32
[e-mail]> <[e-mail]>,
    [e-mail] (Tim Moore) wrote:
>
> Toys R Us has a floor walker that has a phone that looks like one of
> those headsets that McDonalds uses. The floor walker runs around the
> store to tell callers if certain products are in stock when they call --
> neat service!! These headsets are not "phones" but rather private uhf
> radios that hook into the stores phone system. Kind of like ham radios,
> in the 2meter band, being able to hook into repeaters and make phone
> calls thru it.

Hi Tim,

I checked two stores in MD and one in Northern VA and found
the following:

In Rockville and Wheaton, MD

The Toys R US stores that operate in the 457 Mhz range
have phones that look like Cell phones with a 2 inch
rubber duck type antenna.  This appears to be a 2 channel
system.  One phone operates on 457.5375 and the other on
457.5875.

              Base Unit     Hand Unit

               457.5375     468.6625
               457.5875     468.7625

In Tysons Corner, VA

The Toys R US stores that operate in the 30-35 Mhz range
have a headset like the ones used at Fast Food drive-thrus.


                Base        Headset

               30.8400      154.5700
               33.1600      154.5150

Bob
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From [e-mail] Wed Oct 30 07:02:00 1996
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From: Dennis VanHoose <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Trade SA8600 for Scanner
Date: Thu, 24 Oct 1996 11:45:48 -0400
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I have a SA-8600 cable box w/test board installed that I would like to
trade for a scanner. BC890XLT or BC9000XLT ??


From [e-mail] Wed Oct 30 07:02:01 1996
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From: Nathan Robbins <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Tricks, tips, mods for BC200XLT
Date: Mon, 28 Oct 1996 09:41:35 -0600
Organization: Mississippi State University
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Could someone post any tips, tricks, mods, specical features of the
Bearcat 200XLT please?

Nathan Robbins
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From [e-mail] Wed Oct 30 07:02:02 1996
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From: "Chris Evans" <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: alt.radio.scanner,rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Trident TR2400 (or other handheld scanners)
Date: Sun, 27 Oct 1996 13:57:00 -0800
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I'm considering purchasing the Trident TR2400 hand held.  Does anyone have
any
experience with this model or recommendations of a more favorable
comparable unit?
(I have no experience with scanners.)  Anyone know if the Trident can be
easily modified
to be cell enabled?

Thanks!
-c


From [e-mail] Wed Oct 30 07:02:03 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Curt Phillips)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: TV Ant for Scanning
Date: Wed, 23 Oct 1996 00:24:10 GMT
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[e-mail] (George F.) wrote:
>I'm thinking of trying the TV antenna for a scanner, but where is the best
>place to put the 300/75ohm transformer.  Should I put it at the antenna and
>run 50ohm coax to the scanner or should I put the transformer at the scanner
>and run 300 ohm twin lead to the TV antenna?

  Generally speaking, 300 ohm twin lead is less lossy than 75 ohm coax at
the scanner/TV frequencies (30-800 MHz), so using the twin-lead for the
long run and putting the transformer (balun) at the scanner is the better
choice.

  There are a couple of things to be aware of...
1) twin-lead needs to be kept away from steel poles, etc.  You can buy
"stand-off" holders to keep it away from the tower leg or metal poles.

2) the loss of twin lead increases rather substantially when it is wet.  If
you live in Seattle or someplace with a lot of rainfall, the advantage of
twin-lead over coax is less evident.

  You didn't mention it, but I assume you know that the TV antenna should
be rotated so that the elements are perpendicular to the ground.  That is,
rotate it for vertical polarization.

=========== Opinions expressed are solely those of the author ==========
Curt Phillips, CEM KD4YU (ex-WB4LHI)  | They that can give up essential
Engineer/Writer/Adventurer/Raconteur  | liberty to obtain a little
Chairman, Tar Heel Scanner/SWL Group  | temporary safety deserve neither
ARRL Life; QCWA; Raleigh ARS; NRA; AEE|liberty nor safety. -Ben Franklin
==== [e-mail] ====== [Copyright 1996 All rights reserved]====



From [e-mail] Wed Oct 30 07:02:04 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Carl Hodder)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Uniden 8500XLT mod.
Date: 25 Oct 1996 22:25:10 GMT
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I don't have the cellular mod for the BC8500XLT but I have recently
found an old newsgroup message from someone name Jon who claims to have
a mod to enter out o band frequencies on the 8500 between 25 to 1300 MHz
including the blocked out 800 MHz parts. He claims to have already
modified two BC8500XLT scanners. The message only talks about the mod
but does not include it.

I don't have this person's e-mail address but he goes on to say that
he will be contacting Popular Communications to see if they will mention
it in an up comming issue.

What I would like to see if someone has all the Popular Communications
between 1993 to 1996 and check in several places that it might be, like
the scanner column or letters area. Assuming that he contacted them and they
published it.

If someone does find it or knows of this person please E-mail me.


From [e-mail] Wed Oct 30 07:02:05 1996
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From: [e-mail] (David M Schertzer)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Uniden 8500XLT mod.
Date: 26 Oct 1996 04:09:05 GMT
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CELL IMAGE FREQ - 1270-1295MHZ

Oak Harbor, WA   USA
Ham Radio - VE7-LFA/W7
[e-mail]



From [e-mail] Wed Oct 30 07:02:06 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Carl Hodder)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Uniden 8500XLT mod.
Date: 29 Oct 1996 15:50:49 GMT
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Here is the message I found but can trace down the owner. I think
it's about 2 to 3 years old.

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Attention All BC8500XLT Owners (or future owners)!

Don't count this one out yet!

I have successfully got this thing so it is a coninuous receiver from 25
to
1300 MHz.  It allows direct keyboard entry of any frequency.  If you are
doing
an AUTO search, the freqs are properly stored in memory locations!  (I
get
excited about this because my first attempt wouldn't allow direct
keyboard
entry or to save freqs in memories!  But never fear, ALL works great now!!!)
I have already modified two with no problems at all!

So everyone hang tight, I am trying to get a hold of the scanner guy at
Popular Commuications (and others) to see if they want to publish.

-Jon

Carl Hodder ([e-mail]) wrote:


: I don't have the cellular mod for the BC8500XLT but I have recently
: found an old newsgroup message from someone name Jon who claims to have
: a mod to enter out o band frequencies on the 8500 between 25 to 1300 MHz
: including the blocked out 800 MHz parts. He claims to have already
: modified two BC8500XLT scanners. The message only talks about the mod
: but does not include it.

: I don't have this person's e-mail address but he goes on to say that
: he will be contacting Popular Communications to see if they will mention
: it in an up comming issue.

: What I would like to see if someone has all the Popular Communications
: between 1993 to 1996 and check in several places that it might be, like
: the scanner column or letters area. Assuming that he contacted them and they
: published it.

: If someone does find it or knows of this person please E-mail me.


From [e-mail] Wed Oct 30 07:02:07 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Bob Parnass, AJ9S)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner,rec.radio.amateur.equipment
Subject: Re: Uniden BC-100XLT Info Needed
Date: 28 Oct 1996 22:51:18 GMT
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In article <551btu$[e-mail]>,
Kirk James Smith <[e-mail]> wrote:

  >I'm looking for a part number for the small metal "spring"
  >located on the bottom of a Uniden BC-100XLT handheld
  >scanner that puts pressure on the battery pack to keep it in place.

I've had a BC100XLT, BC200XLT, and BC205XLT, and know the part
in question.  Two screws fasten the spring to the bottom of
the BC100XLT.

The service manual for the BC200XLT doesn't show
a picture of the spring.  My best guess is that the spring
corresponds to the following part from the the 200XLT parts list:

        Part no.        Description

        HPSP421080Z     Plate; spring  C5210R 0.3T NI
--
==============================================================================
Copyright 1996, Bob Parnass, AJ9S                        [e-mail]

        Locate & identify transmitters in your area with RadioMap(tm)


From [e-mail] Wed Oct 30 07:02:08 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Jeff Zeman)
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Subject: Re: Uniden EXP900/Is It Secure??
Date: Tue, 22 Oct 1996 17:32:46 GMT
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[e-mail] (chainsaw) wrote:

>If any one owns one,what do you think of it?
>How is it for range and sound quality??
>  Thanxx

I own an EXP9100 and I think it's about as secure as your going to
get. The signal is extremely wide so a normal scanner is unable to
hear it.

Jeff




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From: [e-mail] (Clint Bradford)
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Subject: Re: Uniden GMR100 and GMRS
Date: Fri, 18 Oct 1996 00:41:00 GMT
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>The FRS frequencies are unique to the FRS.

>>NOT TRUE - there are seven common frequencies:
>>462.5625, 462.5875, ...462.7125.

I guess I meant to say that the RULES OF OPERATION are unique to both.

FRS users must abide by their set of rules, and GMRS licensees
must abide by their rules. Licensed GMRS operators cannot transmit on
FRS freqs with their equipment - it must be FRS type-accepted. And vice
versa.


From [e-mail] Wed Oct 30 07:02:10 1996
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From: [e-mail] (TristTom)
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Uniden UBC3000xlt scanner for sale!


-like new, in box with instructions
-has full cell. coverage!
-doesn't include AC adapter (you can use any 12v multi adapter, this is
the European model and didnt' come with any power supply when I bought it
new).


I bought this about 2 months ago for $410. and need to sell it due to car
repairs.


I'd like to sell it for best offer (preferrably over $350.)  I'm in the
Los Angeles area and would prefer to sell it to someone local, who can
pick it up, but I'd be willing to ship it if you pay the shipping costs
etc...


Please e-mail if interested, thanks.


________________________________________________________
                     Mr. Tristan Li Tom

[e-mail]          http://users.aol.com/tristtom/

213.845.0626 voice/fax


"When I tried to tell my story, they cut me off to take
a break.  I sat silent, five commercials-I had nothing
left to say." - R.E.M.
________________________________________________________


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Wanted  all band radio scanner  150 khz - 1.3 ghz or similar.

Please E mail me at  [e-mail]


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How can i get the pro 25 into cell? it has cell freqs in it but i cannot figur
e out the keypad
sequence to program it......thansk in advance , mike


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There is a program called xsort, I think its on Minerva 4 or 5 or Simtel
which can handle huge files.

Paul

In article <[e-mail]>, Sid James
<[e-mail]> writes
>Hi All
>I have been collecting a large amount of data and now want it
>presented in a particular order.
>I have tried word6 and it says the file is too large to cope with
>Would anyone have a sort utility of some description.
>I'd be grateful
>PS to the OFF TOPIC brigade.
>The data IS radio related. nuff said
>
>Cheers Sid
>

Paul Richards                     Analyst/Programmer and Network Manager
[e-mail]           also likes Beer...
[e-mail]              ORANGE: 0976 376726
http://www.hitech.demon.co.uk  for AR8000 interface diagram


From [e-mail] Wed Oct 30 07:02:15 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Alan Frisbie)
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In article <[e-mail]>,
[e-mail] (Sid James) writes:

> I have been collecting a large amount of data and now want it
> presented in a particular order.
> I have tried word6 and it says the file is too large to cope with
> Would anyone have a sort utility of some description.

I assume that you are running MS-DOS.   If so, the SORT
utility should be able to sort your data.   For instructions
on how to use SORT, type "HELP SORT" at the "C:>" prompt.

If you are running MS-DOS version 5 or lower, you can also
find complete documentation in the User's Guide that came
with MS-DOS.   If you have MS-DOS version 6.0 or higher,
you will have to purchase the MS-DOS Technical Reference
manual to get the same information.   See the order form
in the back of your User's Guide for more information.

There is one limitation listed in the documentation: SORT
is limited to a file size of 64K.   If your file is larger
than 64K, you will have to split your file into multiple
files, sort them, split them again, combine all the
first halves into one file and the last halves into another
file, sort these two files, etc.   It is a simple process
once you get the hang of it.   A clever person could write
a program or even a batch job to automate it, but for a
one-shot job it probably isn't worth it.

--  Alan E. Frisbie               [e-mail]
--  Flying Disk Systems, Inc.


From [e-mail] Wed Oct 30 07:02:16 1996
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In article <[e-mail]>,
[e-mail] (Dr Pepper) writes:

> On 23 Oct 96 11:21:12 PDT, [e-mail] (Alan Frisbie)
> wrote:
>> I assume that you are running MS-DOS.   If so, the SORT
>> utility should be able to sort your data.   For instructions
>> on how to use SORT, type "HELP SORT" at the "C:>" prompt.

> On the other hand, , , MicroSoft Works is a great program
> to use for spreadsheets or databases. It's easy to learn
> and easy to use.   :-}

Granted.   However, MS-DOS SORT is available on every MS-DOS
system at no extra charge, making it an immediate solution
without the cost and effort of buying yet another software package.

Each one has its place, and I would not want to discourage
anyone from buying the product that gives them the best
solution for their problem.

--  Alan E. Frisbie               [e-mail]
--  Flying Disk Systems, Inc.


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From: [e-mail] (Larry Levy)
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Subject: Re: Weird Reception of LAPD Frequencies
Date: Thu, 24 Oct 1996 10:02:57 GMT
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Hi,

You thought your example was weird? Wait till you hear my theory on
this!!!! :)

I live in the NW San Fernando Valley and have a Pro-2006 connected to
a discone in the attic.

I have noticed this "phasing" you described on LAPD frequencies, but
only when the 5' mast that my discone is attached to in the attic has
moved off vertical. This used to happen quite a bit after the
Northridge earthquake when aftershocks would move the mast. I'd then
have to climb up into the attic and straighten the thing out.

I noticed that if the mast was at more than say a five or ten degree
angle from vertical, I'd hear what you described on the West Valley
and Devonshire Division frequencies. That was how I'd tell if I had to
make another trip up into the attic.

Needless to say, I now have the antenna mounted in a more stable way.
:)

Hope that helps,

-Larry


[e-mail] wrote:

>I've noticed that whenever I'm listening to LAPD frequencies from my
>area (a tad away from their location), REGARDLESS of what scanner I'm
>using, its antenna, or my location (as long as I'm an acceptable distance
>AWAY from their coverage area), LAPD frequencies seem to have a weird
>"phase-in, phase-out, phase-in, phase-out" effect on their actual carrier
>signals.  Its as if the operator of any given frequency is turning a
>variable repeater TX power dial between 100 watts and 10 watts, 100 watts
>and 10 watts, etc.  I guess the best way I can explain it is to give you
>all an illustration, as dumb as this will be.  :)  Picture this as a heart
>monitor-like graph of the carrier "strength" over the duration of one
>second showing, which is respectively showing the signal strength:

>Full scale:   --------.    .--------.     .--------.     .---------
>   Average:            ` .`          `. .`          `. .`
>      Poor:             .              .              .

>As you can see, or maybe not, the signal drops to a hissy level about
>three times a second at exact intervals, and then back up to full scale
>again.  What could be causing this?  Depending on the frequency I'm
>listening to, the interval is either faster or slower.  And like I said,
>it happens regardless of what scanner I'm using, whether I'm on the east
>side of town or the west side of town, etc.  I was thinking that it may
>be a side-effect of out of phase co-phased antennas, but I'd be apt to
>think that hetrodyne would be in order in such a case, not this.  But
>then again, maybe this is a result of being **SLIGHTLY** out of phase?
>Someone help.  I'm beggin' ya.  I was put on this very earth to find
>out the cause of this exact phenomenon, at this exact point in time.
>Thank you all for your undivided attention.  And I'll leave the light
>on for 'ya.  Bye now!  Yeah, yeah, yeah .. .. .. ..




From [e-mail] Wed Oct 30 07:02:19 1996
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Subject: Re: Weird Reception of LAPD Frequencies
Date: Wed, 23 Oct 1996 18:43:22 -0700
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[e-mail] wrote:
>
> I've noticed that whenever I'm listening to LAPD frequencies from my
> area (a tad away from their location), REGARDLESS of what scanner I'm
> using, its antenna, or my location (as long as I'm an acceptable distance
> AWAY from their coverage area), LAPD frequencies seem to have a weird
> "phase-in, phase-out, phase-in, phase-out" effect on their actual carrier
> signals.  Its as if the operator of any given frequency is turning a
> variable repeater TX power dial between 100 watts and 10 watts, 100 watts
> and 10 watts, etc.  I guess the best way I can explain it is to give you
> all an illustration, as dumb as this will be.  :)  Picture this as a heart
> monitor-like graph of the carrier "strength" over the duration of one
> second showing, which is respectively showing the signal strength:
>
> Full scale:   --------.    .--------.     .--------.     .---------
>    Average:            ` .`          `. .`          `. .`
>       Poor:             .              .              .
>
> As you can see, or maybe not, the signal drops to a hissy level about
> three times a second at exact intervals, and then back up to full scale
> again.  What could be causing this?  Depending on the frequency I'm
> listening to, the interval is either faster or slower.  And like I said,
> it happens regardless of what scanner I'm using, whether I'm on the east
> side of town or the west side of town, etc.  I was thinking that it may
> be a side-effect of out of phase co-phased antennas, but I'd be apt to
> think that hetrodyne would be in order in such a case, not this.  But
> then again, maybe this is a result of being **SLIGHTLY** out of phase?
> Someone help.  I'm beggin' ya.  I was put on this very earth to find
> out the cause of this exact phenomenon, at this exact point in time.
> Thank you all for your undivided attention.  And I'll leave the light
> on for 'ya.  Bye now!  Yeah, yeah, yeah .. .. .. ..

Could be an effect of a simulcast signal with one of the xmitters being
unstalble and drifting during the transmission. This could explain why
it is cyclic based on the period of the drift...

Just a thought...MikeN


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From: CSupak <[e-mail]>
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m. mattson wrote:
>
> [e-mail] wrote:
>
> >I've noticed that whenever I'm listening to LAPD frequencies from my
> >area (a tad away from their location), REGARDLESS of what scanner I'm
> >using, its antenna, or my location (as long as I'm an acceptable distance
> >AWAY from their coverage area), LAPD frequencies seem to have a weird
> >"phase-in, phase-out, phase-in, phase-out" effect on their actual carrier
> >signals.  Its as if the operator of any given frequency is turning a
> >side of town or the west side of town, etc.  I was thinking that it may
> >be a side-effect of out of phase co-phased antennas, but I'd be apt to
>
> I suspect you're thinking is exactly right.  The same thing happens on
> our county-wide paging system, where the same signal is output from
> all antennas in the county.  With "normal" radio coms, the signal is
> sent to the appropriate antenna (only) so that this doesn't occur.
>
> Mark
>
> The truth as I perceive it to be.
> Your perception will be different.

Or he could have a nearby paging transmiter that's almost swamping his
scanners front end, but not quite.

MD
--
First they came for the hackers. But I never did anything
    illegal with my computer, so I didn't speak up.
Then they came for the pornographers. But I thought there was
    too much smut on the Internet anyway, so I didn't speak up.
Then they came for the anonymous remailers. But a lot of nasty
    stuff gets sent from anon.penet.fi, so I didn't speak up.
Then they came for the encryption users. But I could never
    figure out how to work PGP anyway, so I didn't speak up.
Then they came for me. And by that time there was no one left
    to speak up.


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From: "Karl Dahlquist" <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: Weird Reception of LAPD Frequencies
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I live up in a canyon in Sherman Oaks, and get the same type of conditions
you described for N Hollywood and Van Nuys (sometimes)  Of course, I don't
even receive Hollywood, West LA, but get South LA and all the Tac
frequencies.

Also, my handheld Bearcat 2500xlt gets better reception of the valley freqs
than my 2006 with a discone antenna at 50 feet.

(But in my office in Burbank, I get them all *CRYSTAL CLEAR* with my
Bearcat 855 Xlt with stock antenna)

Go figure.

Don't blame your equipment.

Karl


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From: [e-mail] (MEM&GWM)
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[e-mail] wrote:

>I've noticed that whenever I'm listening to LAPD frequencies from my
>area (a tad away from their location), REGARDLESS of what scanner I'm
>using, its antenna, or my location (as long as I'm an acceptable distance
>AWAY from their coverage area), LAPD frequencies seem to have a weird
>"phase-in, phase-out, phase-in, phase-out" effect on their actual carrier
>signals.  Its as if the operator of any given frequency is turning a
>variable repeater TX power dial between 100 watts and 10 watts, 100 watts
>and 10 watts, etc.  I guess the best way I can explain it is to give you
>all an illustration, as dumb as this will be.  :)  Picture this as a heart
>monitor-like graph of the carrier "strength" over the duration of one
>second showing, which is respectively showing the signal strength:

>Full scale:   --------.    .--------.     .--------.     .---------
>   Average:            ` .`          `. .`          `. .`
>      Poor:             .              .              .

>As you can see, or maybe not, the signal drops to a hissy level about
>three times a second at exact intervals, and then back up to full scale
>again.  What could be causing this?  Depending on the frequency I'm
>listening to, the interval is either faster or slower.  And like I said,
>it happens regardless of what scanner I'm using, whether I'm on the east
>side of town or the west side of town, etc.  I was thinking that it may
>be a side-effect of out of phase co-phased antennas, but I'd be apt to
>think that hetrodyne would be in order in such a case, not this.  But
>then again, maybe this is a result of being **SLIGHTLY** out of phase?
>Someone help.  I'm beggin' ya.  I was put on this very earth to find
>out the cause of this exact phenomenon, at this exact point in time.
>Thank you all for your undivided attention.  And I'll leave the light
>on for 'ya.  Bye now!  Yeah, yeah, yeah .. .. .. ..


The LAPD is probably putting into effect the NEW 484.**** Frequencies
that were supposed to go into service 1 Jan 1996.  Some are and some
aren't. They are running frequencies in tandem.



From [e-mail] Wed Oct 30 07:02:23 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Dave)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: what frequency used by radio-shack's new family two way radio
Date: Tue, 22 Oct 1996 14:56:28 GMT
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While you are there, ask to check out their frequency counter.  Put
the radio and the counter side by side, key the radio and read out the
frequency!  (Or ask to look at the owner's manual for the radio).
Dave

achien <[e-mail]> wrote:

>Is any one know what frequency band is used by Radio-Shack's new
>family two way radio ?  Looks like it is made by Motorola and
>No FCC license required. 1/2 watts Tx power,  It is priced at $179.99

>Thanks!




From [e-mail] Wed Oct 30 07:02:24 1996
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From: [e-mail](Steve S)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: what frequency used by radio-shack's new family two way radio
Date: 22 Oct 1996 20:28:53 GMT
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In <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Ken Jones)
writes:
>Here's the line-up:
>
>462.5625, 462.5825, 462.6125, 462.6325, 462.6625, 462.6825,
>462.7125, 467.5625, 467.5825, 467.6125, 467.6325, 467.6625,
>467.6875, 467.7125
>
>one-half watt erp, non removeable antenna, 2.5 kHz deviation, 3 kHz
>max audio high end response, no license.

>Cheers,
>Ken

Kenny,
    Better check your frequencies again! (Couple o'typos). Another
restriction is no remote speaker/mic plugs.

Steve S.
KAF8111


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From: [e-mail](Steve S)
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Subject: Re: what frequency used by radio-shack's new family two way radio
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In <[e-mail]> achien <[e-mail]> writes:
>
>Is any one know what frequency band is used by Radio-Shack's new
>family two way radio ?  Looks like it is made by Motorola and
>No FCC license required. 1/2 watts Tx power,  It is priced at $179.99
>
>Thanks!

They operate in the GMRS band on the interstitial channels plus
addition interstitals between GMRS repeater input channels (a big
mistake, IMHO):

462.5625, 462.5875, 462.6125, 462.6375, 462.6625, 462.6875, 462.7125
467.5625, 467.5875, 467.6125, 467.6375, 467.6625, 467.6875, 467.7125

Steve S.
KAF8111


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From: "Patrick D. Lukens" <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: what frequency used by radio-shack's new family two way radio
Date: Tue, 22 Oct 1996 09:46:17 -0700
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Ken Jones wrote:
> Here's the line-up:
>
> 462.5625, 462.5825, 462.6125, 462.6325, 462.6625, 462.6825,
> 462.7125, 467.5625, 467.5825, 467.6125, 467.6325, 467.6625,
> 467.6875, 467.7125

Not quite.  Those are the freqs designated for FRS.  However, the RS
model only has the lower 7 of these 14.  Also, there is not a channel
selector knob.  For all intents and purposes, it is a 1 channel radio,
but that one channel can be changed by removing the battery pack and
selecting the frequency with dip switches.  I'm not impressed by it, and
few people who have discussed it here in the past have has much
good to say about it.

Last time I checked, they weren't in the stores yet.  Have they arrived?

> one-half watt erp, non removeable antenna, 2.5 kHz deviation, 3 kHz
> max audio high end response, no license.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Ken

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From [e-mail] Wed Oct 30 07:02:30 1996
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From: Dave Booth <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: what frequency used by radio-shack's new family two way radio
Date: Tue, 22 Oct 1996 14:12:17 -0700
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Dave wrote:
>
> While you are there, ask to check out their frequency counter.  Put
> the radio and the counter side by side, key the radio and read out the
> frequency!  (Or ask to look at the owner's manual for the radio).
> Dave
>
> achien <[e-mail]> wrote:
>
> >Is any one know what frequency band is used by Radio-Shack's new
> >family two way radio ?  Looks like it is made by Motorola and
> >No FCC license required. 1/2 watts Tx power,  It is priced at $179.99
>
> >Thanks!
I think they are the new FRS freqs. 10 of them in the 450's and 460's.

I have them programed in my u-16 but have not heard anything yet.
Too new.

http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/5860

--
Dave Booth kc6wfs dm04rk


From [e-mail] Wed Oct 30 07:02:31 1996
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From: [e-mail](Steve S)
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Subject: Re: What's Between 896 - 915 Mhz (Cell Images)
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In <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Jack Becker)
writes: >I was doing a scan between these two frequency ranges and it
sounds like
>cellular phones... Is this possible?  I know it's not 900 Mhz portable
phones
>as the callers are in there cars...
>
>Thanks!
>Jack Becker

Let me guess.  You have a dual conversion scanner (i.e PRO-2030, et
al). You are receiving images from the cellular band just below 896
MHz. If you subtract 21.6 MHz (or 21.4 depending on the scanner's IF)
from each "phone call" you hear, you'll find the actual cell site
frequency.  If you continue to listen, you are in violation of the ECPA
(sic). The only problem with this image reception is that it makes it
nearly impossible to search for legitimate stuff in the 896+MHz range.
I know, I have the same problem.

Steve S.
KAF8111


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From: [e-mail] (Jack Becker)
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Subject: What's Between 896 - 915 Mhz?
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I was doing a scan between these two frequency ranges and it sounds like
cellular phones... Is this possible?  I know it's not 900 Mhz portable phones
as the callers are in there cars...

Thanks!

Jack Becker

[e-mail]
[e-mail]


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From: [e-mail] (Jack Becker)
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> I was doing a scan between these two frequency ranges and it sounds like
> cellular phones... Is this possible?  I know it's not 900 Mhz portable phone
s
> as the callers are in there cars...

>It probably is an "image" of a cellular phone.  Radios commonly respond to
>frequencies other than that to which they are tuned.  Very commonly the
>radio will pick up signals which are 21.4Mhz below where they are tuned.
>If you subtract 21.4 from your setting, you'll very likely find that
>you're in the range of 870 to 894, the frequencies used by cellular
>towers to comminicate to the mobile phones.

I was wondering if this could be the case... I wasn't sure if the image would
be 10.7 Mhz or multiples of that...

Thanks!

Jack Becker

[e-mail]
[e-mail]


From [e-mail] Wed Oct 30 07:02:33 1996
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Steve Work wrote:

> Jack Becker ([e-mail]) wrote:
> : I was doing a scan between these two frequency ranges and it sounds like
> : cellular phones... Is this possible?  I know it's not 900 Mhz portable pho
nes
> : as the callers are in there cars...

> It probably is an "image" of a cellular phone.  Radios commonly respond to
> frequencies other than that to which they are tuned.  Very commonly the
> radio will pick up signals which are 21.4Mhz below

Yes, that is probably it.


  The 902-928 band is used for for amateur radio, spread
spectrum cordless phones, and a handfull of other uses.


From [e-mail] Wed Oct 30 07:02:34 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Dave)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Where can I get new PRO2006's?
Date: Tue, 22 Oct 1996 17:05:44 GMT
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When I first saw the listing I didn't pay much attention to it (my
2004 is still going strong).  Now I'm thinking I would like a backup
scanner for another room in my house and I can't find the original
posting about new 2006's for sale.
   Can someone e-mail me the number/address for the guy that is
selling the new 2006's?  Thanks

Dave
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From [e-mail] Wed Oct 30 07:02:35 1996
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I am interested in purchacing a good modified handheld for general
use. I have been reading this newsgroup for a few days, and am
somewhat familiar with the Radio Shack units. Any advise as to what
would be considered  good, upper end units would be appreciated.
Thanks,



From [e-mail] Wed Oct 30 07:02:36 1996
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Hi All
I have nearly completed the pocsag interface using the layout supplied
by pocsag.
The only trouble is it doesnt actually say where to get the +12 and
-12 volts required for operation from.
If someone can drop me the pinouts for a 25 way I'd be grateful

Sid



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From: [e-mail] (Sid James)
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[e-mail] (Brian Gaff) wrote:
>I know you are trying to be helpful, but even helpful binaries
>are frowned upon on this group. The previous poster did the
>right thing.
>
>Brian
>
>--
>[e-mail]
>Brian Gaff AKA B G Services - Still supporting Z80
>                              The Spectrum Emulator
Jeeeezus mate !
Do you just sit there waiting for someone to do anything wrong ?
You arent related to Brian Hamilton Kelly are you..... (another
tosser)
I know you lot harp on about band width, but please 144 lines of
transmitted data, costs exactly how much.
Surely there is more waste in YOU complaining about the binary
and ME complaining about you, and no doubt all the other brian gaffs
who will say.. blah blah binaries should go into binaries etc etc and
I have to pay for all my calls bleat bleat.

Pissed off mode off..



Sid



From [e-mail] Wed Oct 30 07:02:38 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Roger Reese)
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Subject: Where to get a Directional Finder
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Would anybody happen to have any sources (other than the FCC of
course) or information on DF equipment (including antennas)? I need a
rig that will help me locate anything from 50Mhz up to 2.0Ghz with 1
degree resolution.  I don't care what it costs, or where its made, but
I need a source soon.

Also, any other source of information that is related to "DF" work
would be great.



From [e-mail] Wed Oct 30 07:02:38 1996
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From: [e-mail] (JNG2000)
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Subject: Which Database is the best
Date: 27 Oct 1996 16:31:02 -0500
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Does anybody have any thoughts about the per con disk or others? I am
looking to buy one and was wondering which people perfered. Thanks


From [e-mail] Wed Oct 30 07:02:39 1996
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From: Zoran Marjanski <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Why connect my scanner to a PC?
Date: Mon, 28 Oct 1996 22:43:43 -0500
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Hi,

I'm a newbie doing some homework before I go and buy my scanner. I
notice some models, like the AOR8000 and AOR2700, can connect to a PC
via the serial port (RS232).

Why might I want to do this?

Can other models like the MVT 7200 and UBC3000XLT do this also?

Any suggestions on a scanner are welcome. I'm looking for something that
goes up to about 1G with no gaps, portable with AC and CAR adapters.

Thanks, Zoran.


From [e-mail] Wed Oct 30 07:02:40 1996
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From: [e-mail](BAYCITVIDGRP)
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Subject: Re: Why doesn't my discone work very well?
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In <54gure$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Michael
Bruss) writes:
>
>I recently installed a discone antenna about 20 ft. high, but it
provides
>no better reception on 45-165 MHz for my PRO-2006 that it gets using
just
>the little whip antenna mounted on the case.  I checked that the cone
is
>grounded OK and that the disc is not shorted to ground.  The discone
is
>connected via 75' of RG58 cable; would RG8 improve performance much?
>Also, there is a large VHF/UHF TV antenna mounted on the same mast as
the
>discone, but about 3' lower.  The TV antenna is not connected to
anything
>at the moment, but could it be shielding the discone?  Would a pre-amp
>help, and if so, would a mast-mounted pre-amp be necessary or would an
>indoor type do?  Any advice appreciated.
>
>Mike

   What's in front of your roof?  Larger buildings or what?

   Major trees with spikes in them from Friends of the Earth
   will hinder reception.....

   What does the eye see when looking from your roof?

   Then this may help. I have a discone on my roof and
   i get up to 100 miles away....over hills and dales
   and puppy dog trails....

   bill conduit


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BAYCITVIDGRP ([e-mail]) wrote:
:
:    What's in front of your roof?  Larger buildings or what?

No tall buildings anywhere near my roof.

:    Major trees with spikes in them from Friends of the Earth
:    will hinder reception.....
:

No tall trees nearer than 100 ft or so, and those are pretty scrawny
eucalyptus.  No spikes in 'em that I know of.

:    What does the eye see when looking from your roof?

There is a power line about 60 or so feet away; otherwise it's pretty
clear.

:
:    Then this may help. I have a discone on my roof and
:    i get up to 100 miles away....over hills and dales
:    and puppy dog trails....
:
:    bill conduit


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From: [e-mail](BAYCITVIDGRP)
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Subject: Re: Why doesn't my discone work very well?
Date: 24 Oct 1996 14:55:25 GMT
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In <54n2q3$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Mark
Fraser) writes:
>
>Discones are wideband and flat, but have NO GAIN!  Hence, a whip will
>behave much better at some frequencies, [has to do with resonance,
doesn't
>it!], maybe worse at others.  Maybe better with a different kind
>of antenna [I've got an automotive magnetic mount stuck to my
>filing cabinet] with good performance in bands of YOUR interest.
>
>Discones' best virtue is this flat response, which equates to
>constant impedance [more or less...] - can put a transmitter into them
>at ANY freq, and hve it do a reasonable job of matching the antenna
and
>TX impedance.  no so the other [band-sensitive] types...
>
>/mark
>
>:      I phoned Radio Shack and spoke to a PERSON who
        advised me to check the recommended cable to use.
        He made a point to say also that the cable should
        be installed with very little slack...no great
        amount of unstretched cable ...

        so check your Cable type and check what is the
        RS advice-giver's point.....

        bill conduit
        etc.


From [e-mail] Wed Oct 30 07:02:43 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Michael Bruss)
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BAYCITVIDGRP ([e-mail]) wrote:
: >:      I phoned Radio Shack and spoke to a PERSON who
:         advised me to check the recommended cable to use.
:         He made a point to say also that the cable should
:         be installed with very little slack...no great
:         amount of unstretched cable ...
:
:         so check your Cable type and check what is the
:         RS advice-giver's point.....
:
:         bill conduit

Yes, mine is a RS antenna, but it's the more expensive model ($60).  I was
impressed with it's material -- stainless steel.  Had to use a cobalt bit
to drill a hole for attaching a ground wire to the short little mounting
mast that came with it.  The cable is a taut as seemed reasonable, and it
does not loop on itself at any point.  However, it is RG58 and 75' long; I
could put in heavier cable, but can't do much about the length of the run.

Mike


From [e-mail] Wed Oct 30 07:02:44 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Anthony O. Cardenas ~ WA6IGJ)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Why doesn't my discone work very well?
Date: Tue, 29 Oct 1996 23:10:45 GMT
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SNIPPED  to fit...

>I recently installed a discone antenna about 20 ft. high, but it provides
>no better reception on 45-165 MHz for my PRO-2006 that it gets using just
>the little whip antenna mounted on the case.  I checked that the cone is
>grounded OK and that the disc is not shorted to ground.  The discone is
>connected via 75' of RG58 cable; would RG8 improve performance much?

*75 feet of  RG58  will cost you about:

43%  of your signal at     50MHz
64%  of your signal at   160MHz
82%  of your signal at   460MHz
92%  of your signal at   860MHz

*Above notes taken  +/-  from  POLICE CALL, 1996.

The above figures are for quality, name-brand coax.  Low cost brands
tend to cheat on: wire quality/quantity, shielding %, foam/dielectric
material choice, and jacket... so your losses may be even higher!
RG58 is ok for SHORT runs with LOW power applications, as in jumpers
or very short antenna runs, but avoid  (if at all possible)  runs over
twenty feet.

I once got a super deal on close-out,  "X-Brand"  coax... ok, it was
Radio Shack RG-8,  but as I removed the outer jacket to install the
first connector,  I could  SEE  spaces between the sheild conductors,
as if a number of wires were missing from the braid!  I could easily
SEE between the braided sheild, through the dielectric and to the
center copper strands below that!  I sure didn't want to press it into
service, so I took the junk back.  What a lesson.

As others have mentioned,  in it's classic configuration, the DISCONE
antenna offers no gain.  As a  'flat'  load for a transmitter,  it
should work just fine at it's rated frequencies.  But always remember
that when one adds a zero-gain antenna to  poor/aged/inefficient/cheep
coax, the losses take their toll in a hurry!

I use a Diamond Tri-Band vertical for  144/220/440MHz.  It offers
mucho gain, without the 'noise' a pre-amplifer would introduce to my
scanner.  Besides, as a general rule, a pre-amp is installed at the
receiver,  AFTER the loss the coax and connectors gave you!  Don't
forget that pre-amp noise can be so high, desired weak signals can be
burried under it!  The simple fact is, one can't hear or amplify
signals they don't have.

While the Diamond offers the most gain at the center of the above
bands,  there is still enough gain on the 'skirts' to make the
antenna well worthwhile.  In addition, there seems to be enough mass
and conductor in the sky, that the antenna works well at 30MHz too.
FYI,  I use about 30' of 9913 Belden coax with quality teflon
connectors and a good ground system.

73's
Uncle T.
WA6IGJ


From [e-mail] Wed Oct 30 07:02:46 1996
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From: Dave Booth <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: would like freqs for every thing
Date: Tue, 22 Oct 1996 14:07:18 -0700
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To: Larry Snyder <[e-mail]>

Larry Snyder wrote:
>
> Dear scanner dudes
>
> Would like as many freq's as possible.  doesn't matter what it is, but
> would like to have had to get freq's.  I am new at this hobby, and would
> like to make contacts.  please send freq's to: Pete Mc Queary, 1901
> Road "B", Redwood valley, Ca. 95470.  Would like to have police radio
> codes for Mendocino County Area, Please.
>
>    Thanks, Pete.

Do a search here for freqs!
http://www.perconcorp.com/db_srch.htm

--
Dave Booth kc6wfs dm04rk

http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/5860


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From: Marvin Kaminsky <[e-mail]>
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Subject: RE:WS1000
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I recently aquired a WS1000E.  I find that it does not stay on active
frequencies for more than a few seconds.  Can anyone advise what to do or
is this normal for this radio.


From [e-mail] Wed Oct 30 07:02:47 1996
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From: Ed Gosnell <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Yaesu FRG9600 Need advice
Date: Tue, 29 Oct 1996 22:27:55 -0800
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Hi,
I have an FRG9600 that's been packed away for a long time.  I'd like to
hook it up to my PC, as I know it was designed to be computer
controlled.  A dealer told me that the Yaesu kit is no longer in
production.
I would appreciate any ideas as to what software and cables I may need,
and where I can get them.
Thanks,
Ed Gosnell


From [e-mail] Wed Oct 30 07:02:49 1996
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From: Mike Agner <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Yaesu FT-50R as a sca
Date: Sun, 27 Oct 1996 05:21:09 -0800
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E. Scott Sykes wrote:
>
> KvnDil wrote:
> >
> > I've had a Yaesu FT50R for about four weeks now, and have found nothing
> > comparable to it for both scanning and for transmitting dual-band as a
> > ham.  It's much less expensive than many of the scanners on the market,
> > and has the added bonus of being a transmitter as well.  I highly
> > recommend it.  I bought mine at Ham Radio Outlet.
>
> I second the motion entirely! I own 2 2006s, a 43, other radios and the
> FT50R. The FT50R kicks butt!
> Drawbacks:
>    100 memory channels no banks
>    complicated lock-out
>
> Reasons to have one:
>    Transmits!!! Modifiable for FRS GMRS Biz bands and APCO bands   (I
> don't advise this)
>    Receives 76-200mhz 300-540mhz 590-999mhz (cellular blocked- latest
> versions not restorable)
>    CTCSS decode with FTT12 keypad
>    DTMF Decode
>    Record and Playback on/off air with FTT12 Keypad
>    Computer progamability
>    $400 w/FTT12 $339 without can be found cheaper
>    Many, many, many other reasons
>
> --
> E. Scott Sykes
> This is Ground Control. . .  All:  I saw this site a couple of weeks ago, I
hope it's still
good...it has very interesting info on mods to the FT50 and other info on
this fine-sounding little wonder.  It is:
  http://members.gnn.com/hca/ft50/index.htm
  (If this is no good or I mistyped (common at 4am) please let me know at
[e-mail])  73s  Mike



From [e-mail] Wed Oct 30 07:02:50 1996
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From: [e-mail] (asplund)
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Subject: Yaesu FT-530 giveaway (practically)
Date: 29 Oct 1996 19:03:43 -0800
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Hello all,

Awhile back, I posted the following for a friend, at the time he sold all
the radios he was willing to give up.  Now he wants to sell the rest, AND
has DROPPED the price $150!!

-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
A friend of mine has a "bunch" of Yaesu Dual Band Radios which he would like
to sell at a great price.  He purchased them for the emergency response group
which he is envolved in and has decided to sell them and get radios which
do not have as many functions and features.  His policy appears to be "the
simpler the better" for emergencies.

Yaesu FT-530 Dual Band HT
Yaseu Standard 2 Watt Battery
Yaesu Hi-Power 5 Watt Battery
Yaesu Rapid Charger (for both of the above batteries)
Yaesu Standard Battery Charger
Yaesu External Speaker/Mic
Yaesu Standard "Rubber Duck" Antenna
Antenna Specialist's Dual Band "Rubber Duck" Antenna

Each of them have had the out-of-band modification done by a local Southern
California Dealer at time of purchase.  They will be sold on a first come
first serve basis.

He is asking $320.00 for each radio.  They may be placed on a credit card for
no additional fee, and there is a $5 shipping charge to anywhere in the US via
UPS insured ground.

If you are interested, please call Steve at 818-502-0000.


(I am posting this for a friend who does not have access to the newsgroups,
please do not write me back.)
--Daryl Asplund


From [e-mail] Thu Nov 07 21:17:18 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Rich Carlson)
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Subject: Fun with Police Video mikes!
Date: Fri, 25 Oct 1996 21:54:27 -0500
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I am a police officer in a small town near Chicago.  We recently installed
an in-car video system with a wireless mike.  The officers switch off the
mike when not on a stop, but the receiver is still active.  The other day
one of our officers was on patrol, and heard voices coming from his
receiver.  They were apparently High School kids messing around with a
video camera and mike, and posing as homeless people to film the reactions.


They were having great fun bothering the merchants and passersby, and had
been kicked out of several stores while the officer was tracking them down
(With the tape running...).  When the officer found them, they "freaked"
and hightailed it to their brand new Explorer.  They left the mike on, and
were afraid they were going to get arrested for various infractions.  They
were followed out of town, and eventually stopped for a traffic violation
just outsdie of the village limits, right after they said "Well, he can't
stop us now"

Imagine their faces when they were quoted word for word.....

BTW:  Most in-car video systems work on regular wireless mike freqs from
169 to 172 MHZ.

--
Rich Carlson, N9JIG ([e-mail])

ScannerMaster Illinois Communications Guide [phone]

CARMA (Chicago Area Radio Monitoring Association) BBS [phone]
PO Box 2681, Glenview IL 60025    SASE for sample newsletter.


From [e-mail] Thu Nov 07 21:17:20 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Joe Leikhim)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner,alt.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Weird Reception of LAPD Frequencies
Date: Sun, 27 Oct 1996 22:43:25 GMT
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[e-mail] wrote:

>I've noticed that whenever I'm listening to LAPD frequencies from my
>area (a tad away from their location), REGARDLESS of what scanner I'm
>using, its antenna, or my location (as long as I'm an acceptable distance
>AWAY from their coverage area), LAPD frequencies seem to have a weird
>"phase-in, phase-out, phase-in, phase-out" effect on their actual carrier
>signals.  Its as if the operator of any given frequency is turning a
>variable repeater TX power dial between 100 watts and 10 watts, 100 watts
>and 10 watts, etc.  I guess the best way I can explain it is to give you
>all an illustration, as dumb as this will be.  :)  Picture this as a heart
>monitor-like graph of the carrier "strength" over the duration of one
>second showing, which is respectively showing the signal strength:

>Full scale:   --------.    .--------.     .--------.     .---------
>   Average:            ` .`          `. .`          `. .`
>      Poor:             .              .              .

>As you can see, or maybe not, the signal drops to a hissy level about
>three times a second at exact intervals, and then back up to full scale
>again.  What could be causing this?  Depending on the frequency I'm
>listening to, the interval is either faster or slower.  And like I said,
>it happens regardless of what scanner I'm using, whether I'm on the east
>side of town or the west side of town, etc.  I was thinking that it may
>be a side-effect of out of phase co-phased antennas, but I'd be apt to
>think that hetrodyne would be in order in such a case, not this.  But
>then again, maybe this is a result of being **SLIGHTLY** out of phase?
>Someone help.  I'm beggin' ya.  I was put on this very earth to find
>out the cause of this exact phenomenon, at this exact point in time.
>Thank you all for your undivided attention.  And I'll leave the light
>on for 'ya.  Bye now!  Yeah, yeah, yeah .. .. .. ..


The LAPD system is simulcast from several geographically seperated
transmitter sites at once. The signals from each transmiter have the
potential to reinforce each other when the signals are received in
phase and on exactly the same carrier frequency. This is the reason
simulcast systems are used to provide improved building penetration in
many systems.

However, if the signals differ slightly in frequency you will hear the
signals beating against each other like you described. If you are
closer to one site than another the signal from the closer site will
capture (8 to 12 dB ratio), If you are far outside of the coverage
area, the signals from one site to another may differ in the time
taken to travel from the transmitter to your receiver. RF signals
travel the speed of light 5.4 microseconds per mile. If the signal
from one site arrives 125 microseconds later than another site the
distortion can be quite severe. If the simulcast ystem is not properly
designed the signals from the multiple sites can be destructive.

 There are many other "problems" that simulcast systems present
including the following:

All carrier frequencies must be closely locked together using high
stability oscillators, Rubidium, WWVB, GPS.

Transmitter modulation (FM deviation etc) must be nearly identical
from each transmitter.

Audio frequency response of the audio chain from the dispatch console
and reciever voters must be nearly identical before transmission at
each site.

Transmitter site separation must be within the maximum allowable for
the modulation used. FM audio distorts at 125 microseconds, while high
speed data distorts at lower transmitter site separations as a
function of the baud rate.

FM capture ratio can overcome some of the phase delay problem but not
all.







From [e-mail] Thu Nov 07 21:17:21 1996
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Subject: Re: Airport/Tower
Date: 28 Oct 1996 06:11:30 GMT
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Hal,
        You need: a better antenna, higher antenna, better coax,
shorter coax, or some linear combination of the above.

--
GDK


From [e-mail] Thu Nov 07 21:17:21 1996
From: [e-mail] (Kip Rumble)
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Subject: FS: PRO-43 (Canada)
Date: Tue, 29 Oct 1996 16:20:26 GMT
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For sale PRO-43.  Cellular enabled, lower band expanded.

C/w NiCad batteries and users manual.

Will ship free anywhere in Canada.

$275.00 Cdn

[e-mail] (Victoria)



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Price reduced:

Radio Shack PRO-43 with cell mod for sale.
Includes ac adapter/charger and manuals.

Price: $175, includes shipping.

Contact: Howard Brayman
[e-mail]
716-722-0068 (days)


From [e-mail] Thu Nov 07 21:17:23 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Roland Stiner)
Date: 29 Oct 96 20:38:00
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N>Hopefully with the new generation of scanners coming out there will be
 >some exitement in the hobby.

There is plenty of excitement in the hobby for those that are interested
in putting in the time and effort to find good frequencies and listen.

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From [e-mail] Thu Nov 07 21:17:25 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Carl Hodder)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Uniden 8500XLT mod.
Date: 29 Oct 1996 21:51:01 GMT
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Should read "can't trace".

Carl Hodder ([e-mail]) wrote:
: Here is the message I found but can trace down the owner. I think
: it's about 2 to 3 years old.

: --------------------------------------------------------------------
: Attention All BC8500XLT Owners (or future owners)!
:
: Don't count this one out yet!
:
: I have successfully got this thing so it is a coninuous receiver from 25
: to
: 1300 MHz.  It allows direct keyboard entry of any frequency.  If you are
: doing
: an AUTO search, the freqs are properly stored in memory locations!  (I
: get
: excited about this because my first attempt wouldn't allow direct
: keyboard
: entry or to save freqs in memories!  But never fear, ALL works great now!!!)
: I have already modified two with no problems at all!
:
: So everyone hang tight, I am trying to get a hold of the scanner guy at
: Popular Commuications (and others) to see if they want to publish.
:
: -Jon

: Carl Hodder ([e-mail]) wrote:


: : I don't have the cellular mod for the BC8500XLT but I have recently
: : found an old newsgroup message from someone name Jon who claims to have
: : a mod to enter out o band frequencies on the 8500 between 25 to 1300 MHz
: : including the blocked out 800 MHz parts. He claims to have already
: : modified two BC8500XLT scanners. The message only talks about the mod
: : but does not include it.

: : I don't have this person's e-mail address but he goes on to say that
: : he will be contacting Popular Communications to see if they will mention
: : it in an up comming issue.

: : What I would like to see if someone has all the Popular Communications
: : between 1993 to 1996 and check in several places that it might be, like
: : the scanner column or letters area. Assuming that he contacted them and th
ey
: : published it.

: : If someone does find it or knows of this person please E-mail me.


From [e-mail] Thu Nov 07 21:17:26 1996
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From: [e-mail] (David Steinberg)
Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy.area51,alt.radio.scanner,rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Proposed trip to Area-51
Date: 30 Oct 1996 04:03:57 GMT
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In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail].n
et (Rob Brown) wrote:
>     If you are not asking for money, then I must assume that you have
>enough money to undertake such a trip.  I really think that with all
>the problems in the world -- hunger, homelessness, the general moral
>and ethical decay of our society -- it is wasteful and disgraceful
>that you would spend your time and energy, lurking around in Nevada
>with electronic equipment, like some ridiculous character in a Boris
>Karloff movie.  I really think that if you have the energy to do such
>a thing, then you should learn to expend it in dealing with things
>that are going to help our world to progress.
>
>
>Rob
>[e-mail]

I appreciate your sentiments... Fortunately most of us aren't obligated to
live according to your wishes. If this is not so, please show me in the
manual.

If you feel obligated to "help the world progress", that's wonderful. Keep it
up...

David

________________
David Steinberg
Orlando, FL                Take deep breaths...
[e-mail]



From [e-mail] Thu Nov 07 21:17:27 1996
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From: KuoH <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: alt.radio.scanner,rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Semasoft POCSAG decoder question
Date: Wed, 30 Oct 1996 01:22:40 -0600
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Brian Albert Doreste wrote:
>
> I have tried to use the Semasoft POCSAG decoder, but the only message
> that I get is 'PREAMBLE' and I can't get anything to decode.  What


  If you play with the volume controls alot, you might be able to get
some pages to decode.  If you add a couple of diodes and resistors, you
might get a few more pages to decode.  If you build a schmidt trigger or
use the discriminator output you might get all the pages to decode.

  It would also help to know the speed of the paging company's
transmissions.  Lacking the know how to locate the discriminator output
of my SC150 and being too lazy to procure the parts for the schmidt
trigger, I have also experimented with the audio output of my scanner
with limited success.

  All I can say is that through the earphone jack, you probably will not
be able to decode any pages above 512 baud  (they can transmit at 512,
1200, and 2400)  I have been able to decode maybe 25%-50% of the pages
at 512, but none at the higher speeds.  Then again, not having
instructions in English, I don't even know if the program will decode
1200 and 2400 baud transmissions.

KuoH


From [e-mail] Thu Nov 07 21:17:28 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Matthew Volkmer)
Newsgroups: alt.radio.scanner,rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Semasoft POCSAG decoder question
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Brian Albert Doreste ([e-mail]) wrote:
:
: I have tried to use the Semasoft POCSAG decoder, but the only message
: that I get is 'PREAMBLE' and I can't get anything to decode.  What
: does this mean, and has anyone had any luck with this program?  If
: anyone has gotten this to work, what frequencies are you listening to
: and what kind of scanner do you have?  I am using a BC700A.  Thanks
: for your help.


Ive tried it here in Australia with some success. I find it to work
better if the volume on my scanner is turned up so that the little
vertical bar on right of screen is 1/4 red and 1/4 green and top is clear.

I get a lot of preamble, parity error etc messages but I did get a couple
of 'actual' pager text after 'data:'

Ive havent tried it for long but I will give it another go soon.


Cheers Matthew


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From: [e-mail] (Matthew Volkmer)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner,alt.radio.scanner
Subject: Image of gp300?
Date: 30 Oct 1996 18:26:40 +1030
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Anyone know of any web sites that has a image of a motorola gp300 that
can be downloaded?


Many Thanks


PS  Please DO NOT email me one.  I cant receive large email.




From [e-mail] Thu Nov 07 21:17:30 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Joe Nicholson)
Date: 30 Oct 96 05:21:47
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Ethics on monitoring
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 -=> Quoting [e-mail] to All <=-

 Cl> By the way, the FCC is supposed to regulate spectrum usage. When
 Cl> your just monitoring, your not "using" any spectrum, and your not
 Cl> communicating. I see monitors as being outside the jurisdiction of
 Cl> the FCC. Whether or not you monitor, it has no effect on the
 Cl> electromagnetic spectrum, so it falls outside their sphere of concern.
 Cl> They don't have any ligitimate authority to pass laws on monitoring.


 Wake up and learn something about your government and scanners before
 you complain again and show more of your ingnorance.

 Congress passed the laws, not the FCC.  The FBI, not the FCC, enforces
 the privacy laws passes by congress.

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From [e-mail] Thu Nov 07 21:17:33 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Ken MacGray)
Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy.area51,alt.radio.scanner,rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Proposed trip to Area-51
Date: Wed, 30 Oct 1996 06:30:01 -0500
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> Dr. Pepper:
>
>      If you are not asking for money, then I must assume that you have
> enough money to undertake such a trip.  I really think that with all
> the problems in the world -- hunger, homelessness, the general moral
> and ethical decay of our society -- it is wasteful and disgraceful
> that you would spend your time and energy, lurking around in Nevada
> with electronic equipment, like some ridiculous character in a Boris
> Karloff movie.  I really think that if you have the energy to do such
> a thing, then you should learn to expend it in dealing with things
> that are going to help our world to progress.

Christ, give it a rest, pal. Live a little...

--
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            Central Massachusetts' Premier Online Service
508-368-4222 - email:[e-mail] - http://www.tiac.net/users/mayor
      Area 51 Images/Lore: http://www.tiac.net/users/mayor/a51/
=====================================================================



From [e-mail] Thu Nov 07 21:17:34 1996
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From: [e-mail] (tyler)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Ethics on monitoring cordless video.
Date: 30 Oct 1996 11:42:05 GMT
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In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] says...
>
>uh...how does one scan video using a scanner?
>
>dj
DJ:
Most people scan video already.  It's called channel surfing.  I'm going to
make an assumption and say that these video monitors for babys will transmit
on normal TV channels so the consumer won't have to have any special receiver.

 If that is a good assumption, all you need is a TV and an antenna.  Move it
around till you find someone.  It would help to do some research on the
manufactures of the devices to find out what channels they typically transmit
on.  HOLD DOWN THAT CHANNEL CHANGE BUTTON.  To stop scanning:  Leave your
finger off the channel change button.  -much simpler than actual voice
scanning-   (if my assumption is true)
Tyler



From [e-mail] Thu Nov 07 21:17:35 1996
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From: "George T. Pasel Jr." <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: PRO-2026 mod
Date: Wed, 30 Oct 1996 05:57:29 -0600
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This might be old hat for most of you but I thought I'd ask anyhow.

I just bought a PRO-2026 that RS has on close out sale now and in one of
the older mod lists I found the instructions to clip L201 to restore the
blocked 800mhz range.  Well when I opened it up the PC board has the
markings for L201, but it is no longer there.

My question is; is the newer 2026 now permently blocked or is there
another mod to restore 800 mhz.  I did look for a FAQ, but so far I have
not found much.

Thanks for any help.

George


From [e-mail] Thu Nov 07 21:17:36 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Alan140709)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Ethics on monitoring cordless video.
Date: 30 Oct 1996 07:03:19 -0500
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Dan <[e-mail]> wrote:

>
>Whaaaaaaaaa! you little baby. Enforcement is so low on this that there
>is only a handful
>of people who get caught every year.

Whaaaaaaaaa! yourself. Your comment is beside the point. You divert, you
digress,
a typical response from one who knows he is wrong.

Alan


From [e-mail] Thu Nov 07 21:17:37 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Alan140709)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Ethics on monitoring cordless video.
Date: 30 Oct 1996 07:04:30 -0500
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[e-mail] wrote:

>When your just monitoring, your not "using" any spectrum, and your not
>communicating. I see monitors as being outside the jurisdiction of the
>FCC. Whether or not you monitor, it has no effect on the electromagnetic
>spectrum, so it falls outside their sphere of concern. They don't have
any
l>ligitimate authority to pass laws on monitoring.

Like I said, you might disagree with the law.

Alan


From [e-mail] Thu Nov 07 21:17:38 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Jack Thigpen)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Outer Banks, NC frequencies?
Date: Wed, 30 Oct 96 14:02:24 GMT
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I need help with frequencies for Duck, Kitty Hawk and Kill Devil
Hills, NC -- police, fie, emergeny, Billy Mitchell Airport and
Corps of Engineers Research Facility.

Thanks,

Jack Thigpen
Texas A&M University
[e-mail]


From [e-mail] Thu Nov 07 21:17:39 1996
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From: [e-mail]
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Flood/Dam Freqs for Los Angeles
Date: Wed, 30 Oct 1996 07:35:53 -0700
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Does anyone have a good source of frequencies active during rains for
flood control, dams, and so on for the Los Angeles area?  Any information
would be appreciated.

Brian Petersen
[e-mail]


From [e-mail] Thu Nov 07 21:17:40 1996
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From: Dennis VanHoose <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: BC-890XLT vs Pro-2036
Date: Wed, 30 Oct 1996 10:04:11 -0500
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I'm confused, I just bought a Pro-2036 scanner from RS and after looking
for any mods for it I've found None. It seems to be a clone of the
Uniden BC 890XLT in every way except that the Uniden is continuous
coverage and the Pro-2036 is in blocks. Are the electronics the same
inside and can the RS unit be full coverage also. Im pleased with the
unit but would like to get a little more out of it if possible. Can
anyone help?
Thanks, Dennis
[e-mail]


From [e-mail] Thu Nov 07 21:17:40 1996
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From: Carl Jansson <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy.area51,alt.radio.scanner,rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Proposed trip to Area-51
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Rob Brown wrote:
>
> On Mon, 28 Oct 1996 20:49:07 GMT, [e-mail] (Dr
> Pepper) wrote:
>
> >I am planning another trip to the Rachel, Nevada area for a
> >Radio scanning trip of Area 51...
> >                                               ...If anyone
> >is interested in joing me on this trip, please e-mail me at:
> >[e-mail].
>
> Dr. Pepper:
>                                      ...I really think that with all
> the problems in the world -- hunger, homelessness, the general moral
> and ethical decay of our society -- it is wasteful and disgraceful
> that you would spend your time and energy, lurking around in Nevada
> with electronic equipment...
> ...you should learn to expend it [your energy & money] in dealing with
> things that are going to help our world to progress.

Rob:

How come you're wasting YOUR time and YOUR money reading USENET posts
when there's so much work to be done saving the world?  All that money
you waste on computer gear, online charges, and electricity - not to
mention all the time you waste looking for people to criticize when you
could be out "dealing with things that are going to help our world to
progress."

In case the satire is over your head---

If Dr. Pepper wants to go run around in the wilderness with a bunch of
radio gear on his own time and at his own expense that's fine.  I hope
he has an absolute blast.  It's not your place to judge him or anyone
else.

Get a life.

-Carl


From [e-mail] Thu Nov 07 21:17:42 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Richard Evans)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner,alt.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Weird Reception of LAPD Frequencies
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Mike ([e-mail]) wrote:
: [e-mail] wrote:
: >
: > I've noticed that whenever I'm listening to LAPD frequencies from my
: > area (a tad away from their location), REGARDLESS of what scanner I'm
: > using, its antenna, or my location (as long as I'm an acceptable distance
: > AWAY from their coverage area), LAPD frequencies seem to have a weird
: > "phase-in, phase-out, phase-in, phase-out" effect on their actual carrier
: > signals.  Its as if the operator of any given frequency is turning a
: > variable repeater TX power dial between 100 watts and 10 watts, 100 watts
: > and 10 watts, etc.  I guess the best way I can explain it is to give you
: > all an illustration, as dumb as this will be.  :)  Picture this as a heart
: > monitor-like graph of the carrier "strength" over the duration of one
: > second showing, which is respectively showing the signal strength:
: >
: > Full scale:   --------.    .--------.     .--------.     .---------
: >    Average:            ` .`          `. .`          `. .`
: >       Poor:             .              .              .
: >
: > As you can see, or maybe not, the signal drops to a hissy level about
: > three times a second at exact intervals, and then back up to full scale
: > again.  What could be causing this?  Depending on the frequency I'm
: > listening to, the interval is either faster or slower.  And like I said,
: > it happens regardless of what scanner I'm using, whether I'm on the east
: > side of town or the west side of town, etc.  I was thinking that it may
: > be a side-effect of out of phase co-phased antennas, but I'd be apt to
: > think that hetrodyne would be in order in such a case, not this.  But
: > then again, maybe this is a result of being **SLIGHTLY** out of phase?
: > Someone help.  I'm beggin' ya.  I was put on this very earth to find
: > out the cause of this exact phenomenon, at this exact point in time.
: > Thank you all for your undivided attention.  And I'll leave the light
: > on for 'ya.  Bye now!  Yeah, yeah, yeah .. .. .. ..

: Could be an effect of a simulcast signal with one of the xmitters being
: unstalble and drifting during the transmission. This could explain why
: it is cyclic based on the period of the drift...

: Just a thought...MikeN


Could be another transmitter on a very very similar frequency, but not
quite the same frequency.

When two frequencies are similar but not exactly the same, they drift
in and out of phase with each other. When they are in phase they
re inforce each other creating a slightly stronger signal. When
they are out of phase they work against each other creating a
weaker signal. If they are of similar strength then they will
virtually anialate each other.

The speed at which the signal strength changes is exactly equal to
the difference in frequencies between the two signals. So if as you
say your signal is dropping out 3 times a second, then the difference
in frequency between the two signals is 3 Hz.

Richard.


From [e-mail] Thu Nov 07 21:17:43 1996
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From: Brian Keence <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Antenna Wire
Date: Wed, 30 Oct 1996 07:46:27 -0800
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I noticed a post about the lead wire to a discone, saying that it
shouldn't be too long or cross itself.  I have an outside antenna
mounted above my TV antenna, (only about 6" above it).  My extra coax I
wrapped in a neat circle and tie wired it together.  Should I eliminate
the extra wire?  Thanks.

Brian
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From [e-mail] Thu Nov 07 21:17:47 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Bob Parnass, AJ9S)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner,alt.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: BC-890XLT vs Pro-2036
Date: 30 Oct 1996 16:02:51 GMT
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In article <[e-mail]>,
Dennis VanHoose  <[e-mail]> wrote:

    >I'm confused, I just bought a Pro-2036 scanner from RS...
    > It seems to be a clone of the Uniden BC 890XLT in every way
    >except that the Uniden is continuous
    >coverage and the Pro-2036 is in blocks....

I tested both models last year, side by side, at the same time.
If I recall, both units have the same frequency coverage.
Specifying the coverage in several bands is a marketing ploy.

The only difference between the BC890XLT and PRO-2036 I could find
were:

1) The cabinet colors and control markings are different.
2) The squelch controls work in opposite directions to conform
   to the opposite Uniden and Radio Shack conventions.

From the FAQ:

  BC890XLT (Uniden): Same as  Radio  Shack  PRO-2036.   Tuning
  knob.   200  channels,  global  delay.  Count, AUX, and Auto
  Store features.  Scans and searches fast.  Accepts  optional
  CTCSS  board.   Dual conversion with 10.8 MHz and 450 kHz IF
  -- lots of images and birdies.  Prone  to  severe  intermod,
  especially  when  used  with  an  outdoor antenna.  See "The
  Uniden BC-890XLT and Radio Shack PRO-2036," by Bob  Parnass,
  in June 1995 Monitoring Times.
--

==============================================================================
Copyright  1996,   Bob Parnass,  AJ9S     AMPS Wireless Development Laboratory
[e-mail] - [phone]     Bell Laboratories


From [e-mail] Thu Nov 07 21:17:48 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Pro43)
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Subject: Re: Pro-2036
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Pro 2036 can pick up cell in the 400-512 range with this mod.Find IC 11
,locate it on the bottom of the main board(where its pins come
through).Cut
the trace between pin 7 and the base of Q17 and solder a wire to pin7 and
base of Q17.Cut the trace between pin9 and the base of Q18.Solder a wire
to
pin9 and the base of Q18.Then solder one more wire to pin8(ground).You now
need a dual pole dual throw switch(6 leads on the underside)Solder the
free
wire ends in this order.

          pin9 o    o base of Q17

base  Q18  o     o pin7

     N/C       o      o pin 8 (ground)

            BACK OF SWITCH

o = switch legs
N/C=no connection



When the switch is connecting the top leads to the center leads all is
normal.When you switch to the opposite connection or center leads to
bottom
leads the 800 BPF is hotwired on.When you search between 400-512 with the
switch in the latter position the radio picks up cell.The step is off a
little but alot is on there.

Do this at your own risk.I did it last night and listened for awhile to
make
sure it wasnt a fluke.There is about a 435 MHZ spread between what you
hear
and what the display reads.Enjoy
If you have concerns or questions e-mail me here on AOL.Ira


From [e-mail] Thu Nov 07 21:17:49 1996
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From: [e-mail] (D Stark)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Ethics on monitoring cordless video.
Date: Wed, 30 Oct 96 16:24:44 GMT
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In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail]
 wrote:
> You say that an induvidual doesn't have a right to use public property
>for his own use. When a person uses the public airwaves to transmit a
>signal, and then says that no one can listen, he's using the airwaves for
>his own use. By the way, the FCC is supposed to regulate spectrum usage.
>When your just monitoring, your not "using" any spectrum, and your not
>communicating. I see monitors as being outside the jurisdiction of the
>FCC. Whether or not you monitor, it has no effect on the electromagnetic
>spectrum, so it falls outside their sphere of concern. They don't have any
>ligitimate authority to pass laws on monitoring.
>
Wow.  I am continually amazed at how ignorant the American
public is about the way its government and laws operate.

1. No "individual" has stated that scannists are prohibited
from listening to their signals.  Laws were passed by
Congress making that so.  (Corporations and special
interests paid for those laws, but that is a different
debate.)

2. The FCC's function with respect to scanning is regulation
of the technical standards by which scanners are
manufactured.  Under that delegated authority, they have
changed the technical specs to exclude certain frequency
bands from new scanners.  They did that in obedience to a
mandate from Congress.

3. Congress most certainly does have "ligitimate [sic]
authority to pass laws" on everything.  That's how our
three-part government works.  Congress is the Legislative
(law making) branch that they tried to teach you about in
grade school, but evidently you weren't listening.





From [e-mail] Thu Nov 07 21:17:50 1996
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From: [e-mail] (D Stark)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Ethics on monitoring cordless video.
Date: Wed, 30 Oct 96 16:26:35 GMT
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In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] wrote:

>Whaaaaaaaaa! you little baby. Enforcement is so low on this that there
>is only a handful
>of people who get caught every year.

So?  Does that make it right?  Who is the baby here?



From [e-mail] Thu Nov 07 21:17:51 1996
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From: [e-mail]
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Subject: Re: 2006/PRO34 speed mod
Date: Wed, 30 Oct 1996 11:52:06 -0500
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Gary Ross wrote:
>
> In article <553egu$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] wrote:
>
> > First, it's not a good idea to change the CPU clock crystal/resonator
> > in a scanner as a way to alter scan rate.
>
> I agree it's not the ideal way, but it worked for me on a PRO-34 and 2006.
> Sure it shortens the delay time, but the speed increase was worth it. I
> compared both chipped scanners to stock units and detected no loss of
> signals.
>
> I don't recall the crystal I used in the PRO-34. The 2006 ran well with a
> 16MHz crystal. Faster speeds caused CPU lockup.
>
> Gary
> --
>
> Gary Ross
> [e-mail]
> [e-mail]

I've done this on a PRO-34 and a PRO-50. Works great for me. Delay time
is halved, but scan and search speed is doubled. No other side effects
that I can see.


From [e-mail] Thu Nov 07 21:17:52 1996
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From: Dick Gozinya <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner,alt.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Incredible Scanner night!
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Patrick D. Lukens wrote:
>
> I think I got my wife hooked on scanning last night.  At about 11pm, we
> woke up to the sound of several firetrucks rolling past the house (we
> live right on University Ave, a major city street).  I turned on the
> scanner to hear a LOT of traffic on all of the PHX simplex channels, as
> they were fighting a warehouse fire.  (You rarely hear firescene traffic
> on a handheld unless they are VERY close).  This was about 1/4 mile from
> our house, and from the kitchen, I watched as several fireballs shot
> hundreds of feet into the air.  Man, what a sight!  I'd never seen
> anything like it except on TV!  Apparently, there were several 55 gal
> drums of alcohol in this warehouse.  We could feel the heat from this
> fire in our back yard!  Absolutely astounding!
>
> --
> --Patrick
>
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>                          Patrick D. Lukens
>     Ph.D. Candidate, History     |  Format Advisor, Graduate College
>  Modern Mexico, Public History   |      Arizona State University
>      Modern Latin America        |      Tempe, Arizona 85287-1003
>    Daddy to Victoria, Age 5      |           [phone]
>      [e-mail]       |      [e-mail]
>                 http://www.public.asu.edu/~plukens
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------

Who gives a shit?  Loser!


From [e-mail] Thu Nov 07 21:17:53 1996
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From: [e-mail]
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner,alt.radio.scanner
Subject: Fire Frequencies in Los Angeles Area
Date: Wed, 30 Oct 1996 09:59:34 -0700
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Hi all.

I live in the San Gabriel Valley and have noticed that many of the fire
department frequencies on VHF have a "pattern" of being referred to with
a specific color as the frequency's "name".  For example, the following
frequencies, regardless of what list/book I see them in, when noted, are
ALWAYS indicated as being:

154.0700  Red (commonly seen under cities in eastern side of valley)
154.0850  Blue
154.3100  Brown
154.3700  Red (commonly seen under cities in western side of valley)
154.4150  Green
156.1650  Grey

Because of the fact that I always see 154.415 referred to as "Green",
154.070 as "Red", etc., I'm wondering if there is some sort of standard
plan in this area for the coordination of fire frequencies that gives
each one a color label?  If such a plan/list exists, could someone
please send this to me in e-mail, or post it here on the group?

My only other questions would be; first, does such a plan exist for
police frequencies on VHF as well, and second, is such a scheme in
effect for UHF (460-473 MHz area) fire/police frequencies too?

I've noticed that other counties such as San Diego, Ventura, Riverside,
San Bernardino, etc., all have their own set of frequencies vs. color
names.  They however aren't interchangeable; each county seems to have
its own configuration.  I know I'm becoming sort of an information hog
here, but if anyone has information on this topic but for other So Cal
counties, I'd like them too.  :)

Thanks in advance.

Brian Petersen
[e-mail]


From [e-mail] Thu Nov 07 21:17:54 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Tom  Zoch)
Subject: Any mods for a Pro 50? (Don't laugh, it was an Xmass gift)
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Well I got one and it would be nice to have more memories, extended band
coverage couldn't hurt eather.



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From: J&J Mac <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Pro-41... Can it be modified?
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I have an old hand held scanner, the Radio Shack PRO-41..  Are there any mods
for this antique?


Thanks...

J.


From [e-mail] Thu Nov 07 21:17:58 1996
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From: "Patrick D. Lukens" <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner,alt.radio.scanner
Subject: Incredible Scanner night!
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I think I got my wife hooked on scanning last night.  At about 11pm, we
woke up to the sound of several firetrucks rolling past the house (we
live right on University Ave, a major city street).  I turned on the
scanner to hear a LOT of traffic on all of the PHX simplex channels, as
they were fighting a warehouse fire.  (You rarely hear firescene traffic
on a handheld unless they are VERY close).  This was about 1/4 mile from
our house, and from the kitchen, I watched as several fireballs shot
hundreds of feet into the air.  Man, what a sight!  I'd never seen
anything like it except on TV!  Apparently, there were several 55 gal
drums of alcohol in this warehouse.  We could feel the heat from this
fire in our back yard!  Absolutely astounding!

--
--Patrick

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                         Patrick D. Lukens
    Ph.D. Candidate, History     |  Format Advisor, Graduate College
 Modern Mexico, Public History   |      Arizona State University
     Modern Latin America        |      Tempe, Arizona 85287-1003
   Daddy to Victoria, Age 5      |           [phone]
     [e-mail]       |      [e-mail]
                http://www.public.asu.edu/~plukens
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From [e-mail] Thu Nov 07 21:17:58 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Steve Work)
Subject: Re: Is the AR8000 all its cracked up to be ???
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Todd Coles ([e-mail]) wrote:

: Why would the radio acept a frequency outside the range that it can receive?

: Doesn't really make sense.


Is it perhaps because the radio operates from 100-500Khz but does not
meet its published specs in this range?  Or perhaps modes such as wide-FM
don't work very well in this range?


From [e-mail] Thu Nov 07 21:17:59 1996
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From: [e-mail] (N5OFF)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Bootleggers on 155.200 Mhz
Date: 30 Oct 1996 13:12:59 -0500
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The other night I heard some fisherman/bootleggers using 155.200 Mhz as a
chit chat channel.

The allocations in this area run in 15 Khz splits, and the nearest channel
is 155.205, used here for ambulance services.

Wonder if the downsized FCC has the capacity to police interference to an
ambulance company or other public safety agencies?

Wonder what kind of radios these guys are using, also?

My location is near the Gulf of Mexico, S. Louisiana, and the interference
is to Acadian Ambulance Co.

73 de tom


From [e-mail] Thu Nov 07 21:18:00 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Flatted5th)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Bill Cheek and flames
Date: 30 Oct 1996 13:44:27 -0500
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Well buddy congratulations, you have just entered the Bill Cheeks 'ASS
KISSERS HALL OF SHAME".
Cheeks has demonstated nothing to me exceppt what I already knew, that he
is a con who likes to stir things up.
He has always been that way. Why are you falling for his con job?


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On Wed, 23 Oct 1996 23:44:49 GMT, [e-mail] (Draco) wrote:

>This is the freq. for Taco Bell drive- threw.  You will only here the
>drive- threw employee, "Well come to Taco Bell ..." ,the costumers
>voice goes to a speaker and is not a freq. signal.
>
>154.520Mhz &  159.890Mhz (freq. tested in California)
>
>-Draco
>
Here in Washington AC, I found both sides of the conversation on
33.400, but you gotta be close. Like in the parking lot.
John Davis
[e-mail]


From [e-mail] Thu Nov 07 21:18:02 1996
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From: [e-mail] (christopher carlson)
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Subject: Bearcat 200 Problems
Date: 30 Oct 1996 18:46:03 GMT
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I have a Bearcat 200 scanner and have recientily found it to be broke.  It
will scan, but no longer pulls in any frequencies.  If anyone has a scematic
for this scanner, please let me know.  Any other help will be appreciated
also.

Thanks

Chris Carlson
KB0YNP
[e-mail]


From [e-mail] Thu Nov 07 21:18:03 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Dr Pepper)
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Subject: Re: Proposed trip to Area-51
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On Wed, 30 Oct 1996 03:26:02 GMT, [e-mail] (Rob
Brown) wrote:

>On Mon, 28 Oct 1996 20:49:07 GMT, [e-mail] (Dr
>Pepper) wrote:
>
>>
>>I am planning another trip to the Rachel, Nevada area for a
snippy de deeeee
>>there in the mild weather of May, 1997.
>>
>>Dr Pepper
>>10 - 2 - 4
>>Good Anytime
>
>
>Dr. Pepper:
>
>     If you are not asking for money, then I must assume that you have
>enough money to undertake such a trip.  I really think that with all
>the problems in the world -- hunger, homelessness, the general moral
>and ethical decay of our society -- it is wasteful and disgraceful
>that you would spend your time and energy, lurking around in Nevada
>with electronic equipment, like some ridiculous character in a Boris
>Karloff movie.  I really think that if you have the energy to do such
>a thing, then you should learn to expend it in dealing with things
>that are going to help our world to progress.
>
>
>Rob
>[e-mail]

Well, Rob Brown, I'm going to make the assumption that
you are serious, and not just trolling for flames.  This being
the case, I have to tell you  that you are an arrogant, flaming
liberal jerk.  Only a  liberal would presume to tell someone
else how to spend their hard earned money.  My hobby is
MY business, and you have NO RIGHT to tell me what to
do and what not to do.  get lost, you arrogant jerk!

Dr Pepper
10 - 2 - 4
Good Anytime


From [e-mail] Thu Nov 07 21:18:04 1996
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From: Mac the fake Mac <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Recoton wireless speaker frequencys
Date: Wed, 30 Oct 1996 19:17:28 +0000
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Does anyone know the rang of frequencys used by Recoton wireless
speakers?

Thanks,
Jay
[e-mail]


From [e-mail] Thu Nov 07 21:18:05 1996
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From: "Patrick D. Lukens" <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: Incredible Scanner night!
Date: Wed, 30 Oct 1996 11:18:15 -0800
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Dick Gozinya wrote:
> Who gives a shit?  Loser!

Well, pardon the hell out of me, but if you don't "give a shit," don't
read it, Dick...

--
--Patrick

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From [e-mail] Thu Nov 07 21:18:05 1996
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From: KuoH <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Detector Calibration
Date: Wed, 30 Oct 1996 11:21:44 -0800
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Tom West wrote:
>
> Does anyone know if Bel-Tronics calibrates their detectors? I have one of
> their units that is a couple years old and has began to emit a false warning
> ANy help would be appreciated.

  It is not with a screwdriver and a scanner if that's what you wanted to
know.  Chances are that you are picking up signals from other sources
such as another detector, cellular phone, security systems, etc...

KuoH

KuoH


From [e-mail] Thu Nov 07 21:18:06 1996
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From: "Jory McIntosh, KB5UBS" <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: alt.radio.scanner.uk,alt.radio.scanner,rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Is the AR8000 all its cracked up to be ???
Date: Wed, 30 Oct 1996 11:29:05 -0800
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Daniel Ayers wrote:
>
> Jory McIntosh, KB5UBS ([e-mail]) wrote:
>
> : I have used my 8000 to listen to MW and receive 850 - KOA out of Denver
> : with the internal antenna, and I am in Dallas!  As well I can receive
> : several FAA Nav. signals in the 300 to 400 KHz area with little
> : difficulty.
>
> I'm very surprised to hear that, since the AR8000's coverage *starts* at
> 500kHz.  I would have expected you to have *considerable* difficulty in
> receiving those signals.
>
> Apparently the radio accepts any frequency above 100kHz as input, but covera
ge
> starts at 500 kHz. (Refer to the various spec sheets on the WWW, I'll double
> check my manual when I get home tonight - but I'm sure the above is true).
>
> : I have also received a lowfer station that is about 30 miles
> : from me on 184 KHz.  Not bad considering the band coverage on this radio
> : and the internal antenna.
>
> Not bad at all, since you're outside the coverage of the radio.  How do you
> do it?
>
> Daniel.
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
---
> Daniel Ayers, B.Sc (Hons), M.Sc                            Phone: (025) 387-
334
> Software Engineer/Sysadmin, Securicor 3net (NiQ Routers) [e-mail]
.nz
> Internet Consulting (Security,Servers,Networks,etc)         [e-mail]
.nz

My 8000 really does recieve down to as far as I know 184 Khz. It will
accept entry down to 100 Khz but I don't know of any signals that low to
test its receiption.  I can recieve a lowfer station at 184 Khz as well
as a Air Nav beacon at 365 Khz, so I know for sure that my 8000 will
receive below the factory stated 500 KHz.

Jory McIntosh
KB5UBS


From [e-mail] Thu Nov 07 21:18:07 1996
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From: "Douglas Gates" <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: REALAUDIO/DALLAS PD
Date: 30 Oct 1996 19:32:09 GMT
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It works for me. Very nice site. You need at least a 14.4 connection. The
audio is loud and clear. I wish more departments would put their
communications on the net. Now I can listen to Dallas or Chicago airport
while I'm on the computer. Now you don't have to have a scanner to scan.

Doug Gates - KB2WYR

>   Dallas Police Department, LIVE 24 HOURS A DAY on REAL AUDIO...
>
>  Direct Webpage is:  http://www.audionet.com/radio/dallaspd/



From [e-mail] Thu Nov 07 21:18:08 1996
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From: Scott Blaha <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Ethics on monitoring cordless video.
Date: Wed, 30 Oct 1996 11:34:51 -0800
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Blue dot 9 wrote:
>
> In article <[e-mail]>, Scott Blaha
> <[e-mail]> writes:
>
> > But the real question is: Why
> >would anyone _want_ to watch Junior in his crib in _any_ bedroom?!
> >
> >
>
> Would you like to see that gorgeous blonde's teat being drained by Jr.?
> It could happen.
>
> Dave
> (Scanner Flatulaire)

It could, but more likely you'll get to see that blonde's back as she lifts
junior out of the crib-she's not going to stand at the crib facing the
camera :)

Scott


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From: "Jory McIntosh, KB5UBS" <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: alt.radio.scanner.uk,alt.radio.scanner,rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Is the AR8000 all its cracked up to be ???
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Steve Work wrote:
>
> Daniel Ayers ([e-mail]) wrote:
>
> : Apparently the radio accepts any frequency above 100kHz as input, but cove
rage
> : starts at 500 kHz. (Refer to the various spec sheets on the WWW, I'll doub
le
> : check my manual when I get home tonight - but I'm sure the above is true).
>
> : : I have also received a lowfer station that is about 30 miles
> : : from me on 184 KHz.  Not bad considering the band coverage on this radio
> : : and the internal antenna.
>
> What does the radio do when you enter a frequency between 100 and 500Khz?

It allows entry of the frequency and if there is a singal on that
frequency it receives it.  I can receive a air nav beacon that is about
35 miles from me with a s 7 to s 9 signa.  My Kenwood 440 receive the
same signal with 30 over 9 reading.  So the 8000 is not very "hot" below
500 Khz but it will receive there.

By the posts I have seen, I take it that noone else's 8000 will receive
below 500 Khz?  I purchased mine about 2 months ago and the only change I
did was reprogramed the eeprom to include cellular reception, so I don't
see how that would affect my ability to receive below 500 Khz.

Jory McIntosh
KB5UBS


From [e-mail] Thu Nov 07 21:18:12 1996
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From: Scott Blaha <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Ethics on monitoring cordless video.
Date: Wed, 30 Oct 1996 11:38:53 -0800
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tyler wrote:
>
> In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] says...
> >
> >uh...how does one scan video using a scanner?
> >
> >dj
> DJ:
> Most people scan video already.  It's called channel surfing.  I'm going to
> make an assumption and say that these video monitors for babys will transmit
> on normal TV channels so the consumer won't have to have any special receive
r.
>  If that is a good assumption, all you need is a TV and an antenna.  Move it
> around till you find someone.  It would help to do some research on the
> manufactures of the devices to find out what channels they typically transmi
t
> on.  HOLD DOWN THAT CHANNEL CHANGE BUTTON.  To stop scanning:  Leave your
> finger off the channel change button.  -much simpler than actual voice
> scanning-   (if my assumption is true)
> Tyler

Well, actually it's not quite that easy...These remote monitors operate on the
same principle as the "Rabbit" transmitter/receivers marketed so that you can
watch TV in another part of the house without buying another cable box, antenn
a, etc.
Mainly, it's a rabbit xmitter with a video camera attached that broadcasts to
the
rabbit receiver attached to the TV in the den or wherever. If you have the sam
e type
of receiver at your house, you 'could' pick up the transmission.

Scott


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From: "Jory McIntosh, KB5UBS" <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Is the AR8000 all its cracked up to be ???
Date: Wed, 30 Oct 1996 11:40:22 -0800
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Todd Coles wrote:
>
> In article <553sba$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Dani
el Ayers) wrote:
> >Jory McIntosh, KB5UBS ([e-mail]) wrote:
> >
> >: I have used my 8000 to listen to MW and receive 850 - KOA out of Denver
> >: with the internal antenna, and I am in Dallas!  As well I can receive
> >: several FAA Nav. signals in the 300 to 400 KHz area with little
> >: difficulty.
> >
> >I'm very surprised to hear that, since the AR8000's coverage *starts* at
> >500kHz.  I would have expected you to have *considerable* difficulty in
> >receiving those signals.
> >
> >Apparently the radio accepts any frequency above 100kHz as input, but cover
age
> >starts at 500 kHz. (Refer to the various spec sheets on the WWW, I'll doubl
e
> >check my manual when I get home tonight - but I'm sure the above is true).
> >
> .....clip, clip
> >Daniel.
>
> Why would the radio acept a frequency outside the range that it can receive?
> Doesn't really make sense.
>
> Todd
>
> ----------------------------------------------------
> Unauthorized reproduction of this work, in whole or in part, without the exp
ressed, writen consent of its creators could be construed as an
act of war, and wou
> ----------------------------------------------------Now this is really start
ing to bother me.  I can't beleive that my 8000
is the only one in the world that will go below 500 Khz, I have it right
here at work and just entered a freqnecy below 500 Khz and it had no
problem with it.  Even receives all the computer noise around the office
down there.  Really weird, maybe I got more than I paid for in this 8000?
 Someone out there must have an 8000 that receives below .500 Mhz ???

Jory McIntosh
KB5UBS


From [e-mail] Thu Nov 07 21:18:14 1996
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Subject: Does anyone know of any scanner clubs in Louisiana.
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If someone knows of any please respond to my e-mail above.Thanks-----Swamp----
-.



From [e-mail] Thu Nov 07 21:18:15 1996
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From: [e-mail] (John Wilkerson)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Uniden GMR100 and GMRS
Date: 30 Oct 1996 20:04:36 GMT
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Clint Bradford ([e-mail]) wrote:

: >The FRS frequencies are unique to the FRS.

: >>NOT TRUE - there are seven common frequencies:
: >>462.5625, 462.5875, ...462.7125.

: I guess I meant to say that the RULES OF OPERATION are unique to both.

: FRS users must abide by their set of rules, and GMRS licensees
: must abide by their rules. Licensed GMRS operators cannot transmit on
: FRS freqs with their equipment - it must be FRS type-accepted. And vice
: versa.

   Yes they can..... on the 7 frequencies allocated to GMRS that also are
the same 7 frequencies that FRS and GMRs share.

--
     John L. Wilkerson Jr.        [e-mail]
                                  http://www.iwaynet.net/~johnw

     Coordinator of the rec.radio.cb FAQ
http://www.iwaynet.net/~johnw/cb1.html




From [e-mail] Thu Nov 07 21:18:16 1996
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From: "Jory McIntosh, KB5UBS" <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: alt.radio.scanner,rec.radio.scanner,rec.radio.shortwave
Subject: LW receiption on AR8000
Date: Wed, 30 Oct 1996 12:06:21 -0800
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I have an AOR AR8000 that receives from 100 Khz to 1950 Mhz. I verified
this by receiving an air nav beacon on 365 Khz and a lowfer station at
184.5 Khz.  From a discussion with other 8000 owners on the newsgroups,
most 8000s come from the factory with 500 Khz to 1950 Mhz coverage.  I
wonder if I am the only one that has a 8000 with Long Wave receiption?
Just for note, I bought my 8000 two months ago, and did the eeprom
modification for 800 receiption using Radio Manager for windows.  Anyone
else got a 8000 that receives below 500 Khz?

Thanks and 73
Jory McIntosh
KB5UBS


From [e-mail] Thu Nov 07 21:18:17 1996
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From: chuck uibel <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: Ethics on monitoring
Date: Wed, 30 Oct 1996 13:28:02 -0700
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Of course monitoring phone calls is unethical. In's unstopable, so
people settle for it being illegal.


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From: KuoH <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: Strong magnetic speaker, is it harmful?
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Anthony O. Cardenas ~ WA6IGJ wrote:

> MJane, these are all  FACTS,   each proven by utilizing the well known
> method where we place our arms out even with the horizon and spin
> round-and-round-and-round, until we actually  CANCEL  the evil
> Magnetic Influence by spinning  FASTER  than the Gravitational Pull!
> Very similar to the  PULL  I am placing on your leg now.  Notice when
> one  STOPS  how everything now  MOVES on it's own?   This is how life
> REALLY IS, but soon, the magnets will all have their way.
>
> Your Uncle T.
> WA6IGJ


  lol....and don't forget to wear the lead lined vest and welders mask while r
eading this message at the
computer, unless you want to let the monitor's radiation convert your body int
o a giant sized burrito!

  I took out the left side speakers the other day, and damned if the car didn'
t start pulling to the right!

KuoH


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Dick Gozinya wrote:

> Who gives a shit?  Loser!

  Why quote 25 lines just to add a one line insult, and not even a good
one at that?

KuoH


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In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail]
t (Rob Brown) writes:

>On Mon, 28 Oct 1996 20:49:07 GMT, [e-mail] (Dr
>Pepper) wrote:

>>
>>I am planning another trip to the Rachel, Nevada area for a
>>Radio scanning trip of Area 51.  I have several ideas about
>>what I want to do and how to do it.  I am looking for
>>someone with the time, equipment, and similar interests.
>>I do NOT plan on trying to get past the "cammo dudes",
>>and I do not plan on trying to peek into the restricted area.
>>This is a RADIO expedition.  I have all of the related maps,
>>charts and quads, and will be using GPS  as well as other
>>sophisticated radio and radio locating equipment.  If anyone
>>is interested in joing me on this trip, please e-mail me at:
>>[e-mail].  I do NOT want any money
>>from you, and this is NOT  a scam.  I am planning to be
>>there in the mild weather of May, 1997.
>>
>>Dr Pepper
>>10 - 2 - 4
>>Good Anytime


>Dr. Pepper:

>     If you are not asking for money, then I must assume that you have
>enough money to undertake such a trip.  I really think that with all
>the problems in the world -- hunger, homelessness, the general moral
>and ethical decay of our society -- it is wasteful and disgraceful
>that you would spend your time and energy, lurking around in Nevada
>with electronic equipment, like some ridiculous character in a Boris
>Karloff movie.  I really think that if you have the energy to do such
>a thing, then you should learn to expend it in dealing with things
>that are going to help our world to progress.
>

>Rob
>[e-mail]


The only thing ridiculous here is you using the electronic equipment in front
of you which you obviously don't understand to attack the educational values
of somebody who does.  Mr. 'Pepper's' interest is shared with the tens
millions of ham radio enthusiasts around the world (people who make a point of

their involvement in the greater human welfare) as well as the hundred of
millions who make science a decerning value in their personal growth as well
as the billions of people (except you) that make personal knowledge the
forefront of human dignity and the prime stalwart against the misery of
ignorance.
Get on topic and get an education, moron.


From [e-mail] Thu Nov 07 21:18:21 1996
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From: Curtis Wheeler <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: Bootleggers on 155.200 Mhz
Date: Wed, 30 Oct 1996 13:56:15 -0800
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N5OFF wrote:
>
> The other night I heard some fisherman/bootleggers using 155.200 Mhz as a
> chit chat channel.
>
> The allocations in this area run in 15 Khz splits, and the nearest channel
> is 155.205, used here for ambulance services.
>
> Wonder if the downsized FCC has the capacity to police interference to an
> ambulance company or other public safety agencies?
>
> Wonder what kind of radios these guys are using, also?
>
> My location is near the Gulf of Mexico, S. Louisiana, and the interference
> is to Acadian Ambulance Co.

Did the ambulance company actually suffer any interference, or do you
just assume they did?  If the company is actually sufferning from
interference the FCC certainly has the capacity to help - but they have
to be told about it.

Have you heard these 'bootleggers' on a regular basis?  Could they be a
licensed operation some distance away that you are hearing due to
conditions?

--
Curtis


From [e-mail] Thu Nov 07 21:18:22 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Richard Green)
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Subject: Glass Mount Scanner Antenna
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I work at a TV station in Tampa Fl, and want to be able to hear the
"Assignment Desk " on our 2-way freq. I have a handheld scanner.....

BUT I want to connect it to an external antenna ( glass mount ) to it and an
internal power source ( ie ( cig lighter ) )

Can anyone recomend a model to me?


From [e-mail] Thu Nov 07 21:18:23 1996
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From: "David Jerome" <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: AOR 8000 and Broadcast Band?
Date: 30 Oct 1996 22:33:56 GMT
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> Is there anyway to increase it's AM radio pickup capabilities? I want one

> of these honey's, and I love driving around at night trying to pick up
> far away a.m. stations.  I live in Minneapolis and regularily get 670
> a.m. from Chicago, WMAQ from Denver and also something on 1100, 1110, and

> 1160.
>
> I'd love to be able to use the scanner to scan these channels instead of
> hitting the buttons on my radio when it gets staticky.
>
> -Bill
>
Well,
In spite of the notice that an external antenna won't help, I do get better
reception with an external whip or (better) a longwire. It doesn't directly
insert a signal, but there's usually enough coupling to put a bit more
signal into the ferrite rod.
This technique works for AM BC receivers too. (Wrap a few coils around the
RX and earth one end and put a longwire on the other end.)
Biggest problem with the 8000 is that it really is a bit of a kludge to get
it to work much below about 2000 KHz, as the sensitivity starts to really
drop off. Still, getting to RX the 23 cm Amateur bands offsets that little
problem....

Dave, VK4KHS


From [e-mail] Thu Nov 07 21:18:24 1996
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Subject: Re: Is the AR8000 all its cracked up to be ???
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> Why would the radio acept a frequency outside the range that it can
receive?
> Doesn't really make sense.
>
>
> Todd
Actually it will receive right down there, the sensitivity is pretty poor
though!
Mine starts dropping off around 1800 KHz, still O.K. at 300 KHz, but you
gotta really pump in the R.F. at 150 KHz!

Dave, VK4KHz


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From: [e-mail] (Bud Jamison)
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JM> I'ld advise you to DROP this, now.

Or what, Johnny-Boy?  Gonna SPAM us?  Want to lose your Internet access as
well as your Fido access?  It CAN be done.

... Consciousness: That annoying time between naps.


From [e-mail] Thu Nov 07 21:18:25 1996
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Subject: Re: Why doesn't my discone work very well?
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Anthony O. Cardenas ~ WA6IGJ <[e-mail]> wrote in article
<[e-mail]>...
> SNIPPED  to fit...
>
> >I recently installed a discone antenna about 20 ft. high, but it
provides
> >no better reception on 45-165 MHz for my PRO-2006 that it gets using
just
> >the little whip antenna mounted on the case.  I checked that the cone is
> >grounded OK and that the disc is not shorted to ground.  The discone is
> >connected via 75' of RG58 cable; would RG8 improve performance much?
>
> *75 feet of  RG58  will cost you about:
>
> 43%  of your signal at     50MHz
> 64%  of your signal at   160MHz
> 82%  of your signal at   460MHz
> 92%  of your signal at   860MHz
>
> *Above notes taken  +/-  from  POLICE CALL, 1996.
>
> The above figures are for quality, name-brand coax.  Low cost brands
> tend to cheat on: wire quality/quantity, shielding %, foam/dielectric
> material choice, and jacket... so your losses may be even higher!
> RG58 is ok for SHORT runs with LOW power applications, as in jumpers
> or very short antenna runs, but avoid  (if at all possible)  runs over
> twenty feet.
<snip><snip>

A little hint from Downunder,
Provided that you don't need a lot of flexibility, or can add a length of
flexible cable in the reception laboratory :-) why don't you try thin
ethernet cable (co-axial). It's 50 ohms, similar size to RG59 and usually
6dB better at 1000 MHz. Even better - it's usually 1/3 the cost of RG59.

If you prefer RG8, try thick ethernet cable (also co-axial).

Watch out - you need to use crimp type connectors and may need to make up
some collets to build up the diameter at the shield.

Also, make any bends fairly gentle, since if you crush or crimp the cable,
it's history!

Australian amateurs have been doing this for a few years now and it works
very well.

Good luck, and let us know how you go!

Dave, VK4KHS


From [e-mail] Thu Nov 07 21:18:26 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Richard Songhurst)
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Subject: Re: Ethics on monitoring cordless video.
Date: 30 Oct 1996 15:23:13 -0800
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On 28 Oct 1996 00:24:48 GMT, [e-mail](Steve S) wrote:
: With the advent of new cordless video cameras for monitoring Junior in
: his crib, a whole new era of scanner (television) monitoring has
: dawned. Toys 'R Us is marketing two different cordless video systems.
: One operates on TV channel 58 I think. After this holiday season, when
: many parents put these new toys into use, I suspect some enterprising
: scanner/monitor enthusiast will buy a Radio Shack VU-225 or some such
: outdoor TV antenna and a rotor. After much searching around, this
: enthusiast may hit pay dirt; a constant video signal from a neighbor's
: master bedroom.

: Should this monitoring opportunity be as illegal as phone monitoring?


How about us in Canada! As pointed out in another message, we have the right t
o
monitor anything! So bad for the so called "land of the free" EH!--
--

--
--


From [e-mail] Thu Nov 07 21:18:27 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Sid James)
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Subject: Re: Semasoft POCSAG decoder question
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Mike Agner <[e-mail]> wrote:

>Brian Albert Doreste wrote:
>>
>> I have tried to use the Semasoft POCSAG decoder, but the only message
>> that I get is 'PREAMBLE' and I can't get anything to decode.  What
>> does this mean, and has anyone had any luck with this program?  If
>> anyone has gotten this to work, what frequencies are you listening to
>> and what kind of scanner do you have?  I am using a BC700A.  Thanks
>> for your help.
>>
Having tried the discriminator output and the headphone socket,
the headphone socket works best..... but also I am only getting
PREAMBLE.... also it only seems to detect this on a 1200 transmission


Sid



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From: [e-mail] (Garry)
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I am looking for the freqs. for the NFL Baltimore Ravens, I am mainly
looking for the security freqs. but any related to the team could also
be interesting, and help would be appreciated.
Thanks
--
Garry
[e-mail]
http://www.flash.net/~garry1/


From [e-mail] Thu Nov 07 21:18:31 1996
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From: john phelps <[e-mail]>
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Robert Riskin wrote:
>
> Bill Nelson wrote:
> >
> > gross ([e-mail]) wrote:
> > : I heard a rumor that a gallon of aluminum pop can tabs are worth around
> > : $200.00 because these tabs are pure aluminum.  This rumor came from a
> > : very respected source.  If any knows if this is true, please email me
> > : with your answer.  Thank You for your time.
> >
> > You should lose a small amount of respect for your source, who is passing
> > on an urban legend (eg myth).
> >
> > The whole can is pure aluminum.  I have no idea how much a gallon can of
> > tabs would weigh - but it is worth about $0.25 - $0.30 per pound at the
> > recyclers. It does not matter whether you take them the whole can or just
> > the tops - they just weigh what you provide.
> >
> > BillA gallon of aluminum will weigh about 21 lbs. at 165 lb/ft^3. $7.00 or
> so.hey bill, i got a deal for you i've been saving up those tabs, and since
you were the first to ask, i thought i go ahead and let you have them at
a discount. i have 50 one-gallon milk jugs and i could let you have them
for $100.00 per jug, which is half price and you could make a tidy
profit and save me the embarrasment of having to deal with all those
questions they usually ask.
sincerely yours, pop top.


From [e-mail] Thu Nov 07 21:18:31 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Tomcat305)
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Subject: AR8000's Fuzzy Freqs. (Please Read)
Date: 30 Oct 1996 19:09:05 -0500
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Hi, I just got a AR8000 and Some of my freqs. are fuzzy at times so I just
put that ATT thingy on and it takes it out, but that eliminates the
distant signals, Is the Fuzzy stuff from the crappy antenna?


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>Dr. Pepper:
>
>     If you are not asking for money, then I must assume that you have
>enough money to undertake such a trip.  I really think that with all
>the problems in the world -- hunger, homelessness, the general moral
>and ethical decay of our society -- it is wasteful and disgraceful
>that you would spend your time and energy, lurking around in Nevada
>with electronic equipment, like some ridiculous character in a Boris
>Karloff movie.  I really think that if you have the energy to do such
>a thing, then you should learn to expend it in dealing with things
>that are going to help our world to progress.

>Rob
>[e-mail]

Rob, Did Dr. Pepper ever tell you how to spend YOUR money?  What are you?  A
liberal?  I actually worked for the government for a while.  I've seen what
our taxes are spent on.  If you want to spend your time on the social and
ethical decay, go ahead.  Why don't you start by cleaning up some grafitti
somewhere?

I'm not sure who said it, but:
          "It's a good thing we don't get as much government as we pay for!"
Tyler



From [e-mail] Thu Nov 07 21:18:34 1996
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From: [e-mail] (tyler)
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>Rob
>[e-mail]

Oh, by the way, I'll listen to you complain about everyones posts here on my
scanner while you chatter away on your cellular or cordless phone.
Tyler



From [e-mail] Thu Nov 07 21:18:35 1996
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From: Dan <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Ethics on monitoring
Date: Wed, 30 Oct 1996 16:35:42 -0800
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D Stark wrote:
>
> In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] wrote:
>
> >Whaaaaaaaaa! you little baby. Enforcement is so low on this that there
> >is only a handful
> >of people who get caught every year.

> So?  Does that make it right?

NO.....but I still will listen along with the other hundred thousands!

> Who is the baby here?

Well it can't be you because your a woosy! (kindly put)


From [e-mail] Thu Nov 07 21:18:37 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Raymond Miller)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave,rec.radio.swap,rec.radio.scanner
Subject: F/S Or Trade: DX-160 General Coverage
Date: 31 Oct 1996 00:50:01 GMT
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Would like to trade for scanner (or sell / PREFER trade) A very nice
DX-160 general coverage receiver. I had offered this unit recently and
indicated that the dial had a minor problem. The tuning dial cord was
loose from age and is now fixed. Radio looks and sounds great. Date of
mfg. is January 1977 according to the folks at Radio Shack customer
service. My interests would be in the area of Realistic hand-helds such
as: Pro-44 ('94); Pro-46 ('94); Pro-51 ('95); Pro-23 ('95) OR Tabletops:
Pro-2030 ('94) Pro-2026 ('95) Pro-2004 (real old) OR What have you to
offer in trade. If trade doesn't work out, make reasonable offer.
Regards,
Ray Miller N2NJK


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From: Dave Roy <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: AOR 8000 or Yupiteru 7100
Date: Wed, 30 Oct 1996 17:04:24 -0800
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Jon Weaver wrote:
>
> I am just about to buy a Yupiteru 7100 scanner, and I am convinced that
> this is the right move, but I have just discovered that the AOR 8000 is
> only about 60 UK pounds more than the 7100.
>
> Does anyone feel that there are enough features on the 8000 to justify the
> extra money, or would I be better off sticking with the Yupiteru.
>
> Any thoughts/information would be appreciated
>
> Regards
>
> Jon
BUY THE YUPI!!!!!!!!!!!!!
trust me


From [e-mail] Thu Nov 07 21:18:39 1996
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From: Dan <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner,alt.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Incredible Scanner night!
Date: Wed, 30 Oct 1996 17:06:34 -0800
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> Patrick D. Lukens wrote:
> >
> > I think I got my wife hooked on scanning last night.  At about 11pm, we
> > woke up to the sound of several firetrucks rolling past the house (we
> > live right on University Ave, a major city street).  I turned on the
> > scanner to hear a LOT of traffic on all of the PHX simplex channels, as
> > they were fighting a warehouse fire.  (You rarely hear firescene traffic
> > on a handheld unless they are VERY close).  This was about 1/4 mile from
> > our house, and from the kitchen, I watched as several fireballs shot
> > hundreds of feet into the air.  Man, what a sight!  I'd never seen
> > anything like it except on TV!  Apparently, there were several 55 gal
> > drums of alcohol in this warehouse.  We could feel the heat from this
> > fire in our back yard!  Absolutely astounding!
> >
> > --
> > --Patrick




Dick Gozinya wrote:
>
> Who gives a shit?  Loser!


Maybe not you but the rest of us do! Your the loser.
Scanning is a great hobbie! I have many hobbies and scanning is my
favorite.


My wife loves scanners to

One morining we woke up and I turned the scanner on while getting ready.
It quickly stoped on a well known DEA frequency (418.625) here around
Knoxville. The more we listened the better it got. So we finally loaded
the scanners (all 7 of them) and the hand held freq counter, and off we
went. I know this is exactly what the authorities DON'T want but what
the hell, This was a one time thing. Since we knew where they were, we
drove by and parked at a gas station about three hundred yards away and
set up shop. I found thier stake out frequency and listened to the low
down. After listening to them for about 30 minutes they all got ready
for the take down! The suspects were in a local hotel. They were
suspected of hauling drugs. The DEA had both rooms on eithr side of the
suspects room. The suspect were four BIG ass Mexicans.
When they all got in position the signaled on the radio and all hell
broke loose!
I had no idea that there were that many DEA agents around here. They
poped out of cars, vans and hotel rooms, kicked in the door and brought
the suspects out. No body was hurt and no shots were fired. It was
great! Just like watching COP's on TV but 100 times better. In the End
they had to let them go because they found NO drugs on them.....come to
find out they were just up here collecting the money and wiring it back
through Westen Union.

Note: It is not smart to put yourself in any harm or to jeopardize a
undercover operation....if you choose to do so you run the chance of
being arrested or even worse hurt or killed. If you cant resist stay far
away and have a good time.

You might even get some good video and/or pictures like I did!

GO AHEAD WITH THE FLAMES!


From [e-mail] Thu Nov 07 21:18:41 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Hellspawn)
Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy.area51,alt.radio.scanner,rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Proposed trip to Area-51
Date: 31 Oct 1996 01:15:22 GMT
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In article <[e-mail]>,
[e-mail] says...
>
>On Mon, 28 Oct 1996 20:49:07 GMT, [e-mail] (Dr
>Pepper) wrote:
>
>>
>>I am planning another trip to the Rachel, Nevada area for a
>>Radio scanning trip of Area 51.  I have several ideas about
>>what I want to do and how to do it.  I am looking for
>>someone with the time, equipment, and similar interests.
>>I do NOT plan on trying to get past the "cammo dudes",
>>and I do not plan on trying to peek into the restricted area.
>>This is a RADIO expedition.  I have all of the related maps,
>>charts and quads, and will be using GPS  as well as other
>>sophisticated radio and radio locating equipment.  If anyone
>>is interested in joing me on this trip, please e-mail me at:
>>[e-mail].  I do NOT want any money
>>from you, and this is NOT  a scam.  I am planning to be
>>there in the mild weather of May, 1997.
>>
>>Dr Pepper
>>10 - 2 - 4
>>Good Anytime
>
>
>Dr. Pepper:
>
>     If you are not asking for money, then I must assume that you have
>enough money to undertake such a trip.  I really think that with all
>the problems in the world -- hunger, homelessness, the general moral
>and ethical decay of our society -- it is wasteful and disgraceful
>that you would spend your time and energy, lurking around in Nevada
>with electronic equipment, like some ridiculous character in a Boris
>Karloff movie.  I really think that if you have the energy to do such
>a thing, then you should learn to expend it in dealing with things
>that are going to help our world to progress.
>
>
>Rob
>[e-mail]

Well, to be off-topic for a minute: What makes your ideal use of HIS money
better than his use of it? If you want to do something noble with the money,
earn it yourself.

Hellspawn



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From: [e-mail] (Alexander Gordon Soon)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: scanner antenna?
Date: 31 Oct 1996 01:17:49 GMT
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I have a BC SC150 and want to replace to a better antenna. Anyone know any
good ones. I am interested in mostly 30-50mhz range, as well as the
890-956mhz range. Any advice would be appreciated. If anyone knopws of any
mods for this scanner let me know too. Thanks.

Gord.


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[rec.pets.cats]
Dick Gozinya  <[e-mail]> wrote:
>Eva <[e-mail]> writes:
>>
>> Today my little fluffy started using the litter box.
>
>Who gives a shit?  Loser!

[rec.garden.figs]
Dick Gozinya  <[e-mail]> wrote:
>Manuel <[e-mail]> wrote:
>>
>> Yahoo!!!  Today the first figs of the season have ripened on my trees.
>
>Who gives a shit?  Loser!

[alt.buttwipe]
Dick Gozinya  <[e-mail]> wrote:
>Big Asshole <[e-mail]> wrote:
>>
>> I am a bigger asshole than Dick Gozinya.
>
>Who gives a shit?  Loser!

[alt.dump.your.load.on.dick]
Dick Gozinya  <[e-mail]> wrote:
>Thomas Crapper <[e-mail]> writes:
>>
>>Don't you mean "looser", Dick?  Have a fig.
>
>Who gives a shit?  Loser!

In other words Dick, If you don't care to read or discuss the
hobby of scanning, UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THE FUCKING GROUP!




From [e-mail] Thu Nov 07 21:18:43 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Greg Griffin)
Subject: Diagnosis Murder TV Show on location...
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the Diagnosis Murder TV Show is on location today in El Segundo, CA
(near LAX) shooting at El Segundo High School -- i've been searching
the range 173.2 - 173.375, but i haven't heard any traffic so far.

i'm also searching the 450 - 512 MHz range, because they might be
using one of those low-power splinter freqs.

is there a comprehensive list of ITINERANT frequencies available?

thank you!


--
*
* Greg Griffin
* [e-mail]
*


From [e-mail] Thu Nov 07 21:18:45 1996
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From: [e-mail](Steve S)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Ethics on monitoring cordless video.
Date: 31 Oct 1996 01:54:14 GMT
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In <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (djbond)
writes:
>
>uh...how does one scan video using a scanner?
>
>dj

By using a traditional TV!  Just pick up an older TV with a UHF tuner
that goes up to channel 83 and you also have a cellphone monitor
(albeit illegal).

Steve S.
KAF8111
--- I don't advocate non-compliance with the ECPA ---


From [e-mail] Thu Nov 07 21:18:46 1996
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bearcat bc700a
maybe one hour old in box 800 mhz,like new
make me a offer
Danny    email [e-mail]


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-> Note: It is not smart to put yourself in any harm or to jeopardize a
-> undercover operation....if you choose to do so you run the chance of
-> being arrested or even worse hurt or killed. If you cant resist stay far
-> away and have a good time.

   THIS IS ALWAYS A GOOD IDEA!!!

-> You might even get some good video and/or pictures like I did!

   Cool!  Can we get you to post some???

-> GO AHEAD WITH THE FLAMES!

   I got my Nomex jumpsuit on and the fire hose ready!

Taliesin
--

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From [e-mail] Thu Nov 07 21:18:48 1996
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From: [e-mail](Steve S)
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Subject: Re: V-Link Phones (and an FRS connection?)
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In <[e-mail]> [e-mail]
(Digital Matrix) writes:
>
>Hi all.  MTV has been advertising a "phone" called the V-link phone.
>It looks like they are targeting the highschool crowd.  They're
>pushing it like a cellular phone, they say its a great party line and
>you never get a phone bill.  I realize its not a phone, I'm just
>curious what the frequencies are that these things use and how they
>work in order to get the party line effect.  Thanks for any
>information you have, web searches have returned nothing.
>
Oh my God!! Could someone actually market FRS equipped Teen Phones that
have 7 to 14 channels of high school party line activity?!?

If true, I guess I can kiss my GMRS interstitials goodbye as I live
close to a high school.

Steve S.
KAF8111


From [e-mail] Thu Nov 07 21:18:49 1996
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From: "Robert H. Eisner" <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Recoton wireless speaker frequencys
Date: Wed, 30 Oct 1996 21:04:41 -0500
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To: Mac the fake Mac <[e-mail]>

Mac the fake Mac wrote:
>
> Does anyone know the rang of frequencys used by Recoton wireless
> speakers?
>
> Thanks,
> Jay
> [e-mail]

You may want to try 902-928 Mhz Wide FM mode.

Bob


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From: [e-mail](Steve S)
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Subject: Re: Incredible Scanner night!
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In <[e-mail]> KuoH <[e-mail]> writes:
>
>Dick Gozinya wrote:
>
>> Who gives a shit?  Loser!
>
>  Why quote 25 lines just to add a one line insult, and not even a
good
>one at that?
>
>KuoH

Occasionally, real losers show up and show their maturity. I like the
origianl post but I think this response came from alt.radio.scanner.
"Dick" was in between reading alt.race.supremacy and alt.rectal.probing

Steve S.
;o)


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From: "Robert H. Eisner" <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Taco Bell Drive-Threw freq. Here!
Date: Wed, 30 Oct 1996 21:10:54 -0500
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To: John Davis <[e-mail]>

John Davis wrote:
>
> On Wed, 23 Oct 1996 23:44:49 GMT, [e-mail] (Draco) wrote:
>
> >This is the freq. for Taco Bell drive- threw.  You will only here the
> >drive- threw employee, "Well come to Taco Bell ..." ,the costumers
> >voice goes to a speaker and is not a freq. signal.
> >
> >154.520Mhz &  159.890Mhz (freq. tested in California)
> >
> >-Draco
> >
> Here in Washington AC, I found both sides of the conversation on
> 33.400, but you gotta be close. Like in the parking lot.
> John Davis
> [e-mail]


Hi John,

FYI

the matching headset frequency for 34.400 is 154.540

An article on Fast Food Monitoring can be found in the August issue
of Monitoring Times.  It can be viewed online at the following URL:

 http://www.grove.net/fastfreq.txt

Bob


From [e-mail] Thu Nov 07 21:18:52 1996
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From: [e-mail]
Newsgroups: alt.radio.scanner,rec.radio.scanner
Subject: FS:  AOR 1000 handheld scanner with Cellular coverage
Date: 31 Oct 1996 02:17:01 GMT
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For sale--$300 including shipping and insurance.  Comes with charger,
manual and original box.  Excellent condition.


Please email with any questions, of course!

Michelle



From [e-mail] Thu Nov 07 21:18:53 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Jim Wishner)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: duluth scannerers...
Date: 31 Oct 1996 02:42:12 GMT
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what's the deal with 553.775 mhz?

i'm glad it's there...a real public service for me...but why is it there?


tnx, dejim in duluth, not just another cold omaha...


21.1 degrees F @ 03:43 UTC tuesday oct 31






From [e-mail] Thu Nov 07 21:18:54 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Joe Palmer)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner,alt.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Incredible Scanner night!
Date: Thu, 31 Oct 1996 02:50:15 GMT
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KuoH <[e-mail]> wrote:

>Dick Gozinya wrote:

>> Who gives a shit?  Loser!

>  Why quote 25 lines just to add a one line insult, and not even a good
>one at that?

        But at least we know now that his parents must have had ESP...

        They named him,  "DICK"

                                                 Seeyaalllaterbye...  JoeP.
                             de N0LQT (Joe Palmer) from Newton, Ks. 67114

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From [e-mail] Thu Nov 07 21:18:54 1996
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From: [e-mail](BAYCITVIDGRP)
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Subject: Re: Fire Frequencies in Los Angeles Area
Date: 31 Oct 1996 03:18:17 GMT
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In <[e-mail]> [e-mail] writes:
>
>Hi all.
>
>I live in the San Gabriel Valley and have noticed that many of the
fire
>department frequencies on VHF have a "pattern" of being referred to
with
>a specific color as the frequency's "name".

    Access: http://www.ci.la.ca.us/departments/lafd/index.html

     or ask for Brian Humphries of the LAFD for help in helping
     you help yourself to the answers you need help with....he
     can help you.

      bill conduit
     no can help you


From [e-mail] Thu Nov 07 21:18:55 1996
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From: [e-mail] (TYSTICK)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: looking for radio shack 2006 scanner
Date: 31 Oct 1996 03:20:58 GMT
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NNTP-Posting-Host: viking.cris.com

if u got one for sale ,please let me know.
It can even be a 2004 or 2005


From [e-mail] Thu Nov 07 21:18:56 1996
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From: [e-mail] (David W. Murphy)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: TRADE - AMERITRON ALS500 FOR AOR8000
Date: Thu, 31 Oct 1996 03:59:23 GMT
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I have ALS500 in good condition. Will trade it for AOR8000. If
interested please email me at :

[e-mail]

Thanks
K5FOY
David Murphy




From [e-mail] Thu Nov 07 21:18:57 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Steve Ayscue)
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Subject: Re: AR 8000 Software
Date: Thu, 31 Oct 1996 04:32:05 GMT
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On 28 Oct 1996 11:10:54 GMT, [e-mail] (Daniel Ayers)
wrote:


>I've never seen a Windows interface add anything to a scanner program
>(although I wouldn't mind seeing a counter-example).
>
>: BTW: Daniel, It's good to see a Kiwi poster - not many about - where
>: are you? I used to live in Titirangi, NW Auckland.
>
>I'm in Christchurch.
>
>Daniel.
>
>-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
--
>Daniel Ayers, B.Sc (Hons), M.Sc                            Phone: [phone]
34
>Software Engineer/Sysadmin, Securicor 3net (NiQ Routers) [e-mail].
nz
>Internet Consulting (Security,Servers,Networks,etc)         [e-mail].
nz

The Drag and Drop of frequencies in bank lists is *very* nice in AR
Toolkit for the Mac. Anyone know witch Windows 8K software will allow
this?

Windowing systems offer much more conveinence in multitasking.

Steve Ayscue
[e-mail]


From [e-mail] Thu Nov 07 21:18:58 1996
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From: [e-mail] (m. mattson)
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Subject: Re: duluth scannerers...
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[e-mail] (Jim Wishner) wrote:

>what's the deal with 553.775 mhz?

>i'm glad it's there...a real public service for me...but why is it there?


for the thousands (?) of us that aren't within 50 miles of Duluth,
what are you hearing on 553.775?

Mark

The truth as I perceive it to be.
Your perception will be different.




From [e-mail] Thu Nov 07 21:18:59 1996
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From: Steve Ralston <[e-mail]>
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Date: Wed, 30 Oct 1996 21:08:42 -0800
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I found an old tunable VHF receiver at a swap-meet. The brand is "SONAR"
model FR102D. It can be tuned from 150 to 175MHz (Megacycles used on the
dial face!!). It also has a switch for a fixed freq. and one crystal
sockit inside. I took it home and plugged it in and set it to 162.40,
the local NOAA station, but heard nothing. About 2 minutes later it came
to life. By God, there are tubes inside! I opened it up and found it had
7 tubes and the tubes were marked "Built for SONAR by RCA". (The
original tubes still work). Anyone know when this beast was made or who
used them? Thanks, Steve Ralston Escondido, CA


From [e-mail] Thu Nov 07 21:19:00 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Dan Morisseau)
Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy.area51,alt.radio.scanner,rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Proposed trip to Area-51
Date: Wed, 30 Oct 1996 21:10:32 PST
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In article  [e-mail] (Rob Brown) writes:

:>     If you are not asking for money, then I must assume that you have
:>enough money to undertake such a trip.  I really think that with all
:>the problems in the world -- hunger, homelessness, the general moral
:>and ethical decay of our society -- it is wasteful and disgraceful
:>that you would spend your time and energy, lurking around in Nevada
:>with electronic equipment, like some ridiculous character in a Boris
:>Karloff movie.  I really think that if you have the energy to do such
:>a thing, then you should learn to expend it in dealing with things
:>that are going to help our world to progress.


Rob,

        Grab the reins there, buddy! who appointed you the arbiter of worthwhile and
appropriate recreational endeavors, anyway? You are coming off as just LITTLE
too self righteous for the taste of most. This guy, Dr. Pepper, is entiltled
to spend his ahrd earned money as He likes; NOT in accordance with YOUR
directives. Back W-A-Y off and get a little better sperspective on life and
your role in other people's activities. as long as Dr. pepper pays his
federal, state and local income, sales and property taxes, he's done his FULL
share and his only worry ought to be how to mkae sure YOUR ilk don't steal
MORE of his earned cash. If the others remarks haven't provided you with a
better perspective, thenmaybe this will help the message sink in.





====================================================================
"I distrust a close-mouthed man. He generally picks the wrong time
to talk and says the wrong things. Talking is something you can't do
judiciously unless you keep in practice"
                               - Casper Gutman, The Maltese Falcon
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From: [e-mail] (Dan Morisseau)
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Subject: Re: Incredible Scanner night!
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In article "Patrick D. Lukens" <[e-mail]> writes:

>Dick Gozinya wrote:
>> Who gives a shit?  Loser!

>Well, pardon the hell out of me, but if you don't "give a shit," don't
>read it, Dick...


Pat,
    Forget him! The kind of warped personailty tht he represents is just
trying to get a reaction. Gozinya delights in causing others unhappiness. Just

let him slither away unnoticed.



====================================================================
"I distrust a close-mouthed man. He generally picks the wrong time
to talk and says the wrong things. Talking is something you can't do
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From [e-mail] Thu Nov 07 21:19:03 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Richard Kendrick)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner,alt.radio.scanner
Subject: All hail King Mackey the Great
Date: 30 Oct 1996 23:26:01 -0700
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Behold brothers and sisters, I bring you the profound story
of how King Mackey the Great became so. It is an exciting
tale filled with wonder, awe, and heroic deeds. Come closer,
as I relate this grand history.

In the land of Scannerdom, there was a terrible injustice in
the county of Power Supply. The evil mercenary force from
Capacitor held the people of Smoke prisoner. Repeater, the
ruler in exile of Power Supply, offered a rare and unused
Radio Shack battery card to anyone who could free the people
of Smoke from their Capacitor prison. A young and fearless
warrior stepped forward to take up the gauntlet. Repeater
told him of the dangers but the young man was undaunted and
resolutely set off to free them.

When he arrived at the gate, Mackey was challenged by the
fearsome guardians Positive and Negative. So terrible were
these mighty sentinels that even the renowned guardian Cerebus
trembled when faced with Positive and Negative. Armed with
his trusty screwdriver he didst battle with them. Now, the
screwdriver is no ordinary weapon in the hands of a
professional. But our hero, battle tested and proven in the
labs and urinals of Technical School, was no simple
professional. He had become a Grand Master of the Number
Two Phillips Blade.

The guards fired spinning hex nuts and sliced with the dreaded
razor sharp quartertwenty threads. Again and again, using
every feint, lunge, and parry the guardians had learned in
centuries of defending the cabinet, but to no avail. In the
end, Mackey maneuvered himself and with one swift strike, he
ended it. He had touched both guardians in the only way to kill
them. He bridged the gap between them in a move only a Master
Bladesman could execute, the Short.

The Capacitor force exploded from the cataclysm releasing the
Smoke from their electrolytic bondage. Afterward, the Smoke
rewarded Mackey with their highest honor, the Diddler of the
Spark.

Mackey, hoisted by his own petard, began the journey home. In
the land of Recdotradiodotscanner, he was attacked by the
Legions of Ennui. These were no ordinary warriors, but elite
shock troops. Armed with the latest in Apathy, Disdain, and
Contempt, they lay seige to our hero.

For months, a battle of attrition was waged. One after another,
mighty warriors all, they fell. Even I, your humble scribe was
a soldier in the Legion of Ennui, but I too, fell to the great
Mackey. No one could understand how a single man could withstand
such an onslaught as we heaped upon him. That is, until we
learned the source of his great strength. He was the most
favored disciple of the malevolent gods Fraud and Liar. They
had taught him the secret fighting languages of Turpitude,
Innuendo, and the most deadly of them all, Obscenity.
Repeatedly, he repeled the attacks with adroit displays of
oratorical onanism.

There was a point in the war when we thought we were going to
prevail. We had Mackey surrounded, he was in everybodys kill
file, and his ISPs were terminating his accounts as fast as
he could login. He had been beaten back to where he stood alone
armed only with a 300 baud modem and a Commodore 64.

Alas, we were all victim to his great strategy and now he sprang
his most devastating weapon. Surrounding him with our keyboards
poised for the final death blow, he hoisted his hands above him.
Like Moses bestowing the Ten Commandments to the chosen people,
in his hands, his mail-order diploma proclaming him Master of
Communication Technology smote us down.

Cowered by the supreme Divinity before us, a hush fell upon the
surrounding army. The only sound was a muffled cough from one of
the younger soldiers. We lay prostrate on the ground before him
fearful of his wrath. Who were we to show the temerity to
challenge his divine turgescence. We waited. Slowly, he walked
through the defeated masses and went home.

Upon returning to Scannerdom, word of his great deeds had
preceded him. He was ordained Supreme Grand Master Fool of
the Universe and the people clamored for his ordination as
King. In response, the Church of Scanner Mods proclaimed him
King and the great sage and visionary Pope Bcheek presided
over the coronation. As he placed the Discone Crown upon his
head, he spoke the sacred papal blessing, "This boy reeks."

So there you have it, brothers and sisters, behold the saga of
his fetidness, King Mackey the Great, Ruler of Torpor, Supreme
Grand Master Fool of the Universe, Grand Master of the Number
Two Phillips Blade, holder of the Diddler of the Spark, Divine
Master of Communication Technology, High Priest of the sect of
Fraud and Liar, and Orational Master of Turpitude, Innuendo,
and Obscenity.

All hail King Mackey the Great.



Richard Kendrick CET WA7TWI           |
Amateur Radio Extra Class             |  Do not adjust your mind, there
QRP #4129/G-QRP #8591/MI-QRP #M-1412  |  is a fault in reality.
Mesa, AZ  email: [e-mail]  |



From [e-mail] Thu Nov 07 21:19:03 1996
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From: [e-mail]
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Subject: Re: Fire Frequencies in Los Angeles Area
Date: Wed, 30 Oct 1996 23:52:25 -0700
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BAYCITVIDGRP wrote:
>
> In <[e-mail]> [e-mail] writes:
> >
> >Hi all.
> >
> >I live in the San Gabriel Valley and have noticed that many of the
> fire
> >department frequencies on VHF have a "pattern" of being referred to
> with
> >a specific color as the frequency's "name".
>
>     Access: http://www.ci.la.ca.us/departments/lafd/index.html
>
>      or ask for Brian Humphries of the LAFD for help in helping
>      you help yourself to the answers you need help with....he
>      can help you.
>
>       bill conduit
>      no can help you

Thanks for the reply.  I tried the URL but the server informed me that
it was an invalid address (error 404).  Is this the correct URL (no typeos
or such)?  If so, how do I contact Brian Humphries?

Brian Petersen
[e-mail]


From [e-mail] Thu Nov 07 21:19:04 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Scan2000)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Are there any MODS for the BC220XLT?????
Date: 31 Oct 1996 02:37:44 -0500
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Are there any mods that I could do to an 220xlt?? If so E-mail me at
[e-mail] .


Thanks
Brian


From [e-mail] Thu Nov 07 21:19:05 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Scan2000)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: ?? on 900 Mhz cordless
Date: 31 Oct 1996 02:41:54 -0500
Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364)
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I tried to search at 923.6 to 926.6 and picked up open fregs with nothing
or I could not pick up anything at all, could this be because no one has a
900 mhz phone in my area? Any info.

E-mail at [e-mail]
                                                               Thanks
                                                                Brian


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EMAIL INFO,
              TONY


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From: [e-mail] (William A Charette)
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Subject: Re: All hail King Mackey the Great
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BRAVO!!!!!

BRILLIANT!

That was wonderful!

I doubt that The MAN has the oratorical onanism to figger it all out :)

better slip on my Mackey dosimeter now :)

-Bill



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From: "tom.chambers" <[e-mail]>
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I subscribe to an interesting UK scanner list server,but I haven't been
able to locate a list covering my Washington,DC tri state area.Any
one know of anything? Thanks, [e-mail]
--
AD HOC! AD HOC! - AND QUID PRO QUO!
SO LITTLE TIME! - SO MUCH TO KNOW!


From [e-mail] Thu Nov 07 21:19:08 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Michael Alexander)
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In article <[e-mail]>, "Patrick D. Lukens" <[e-mail]>
wrote:

> Dick Gozinya wrote:
> > Who gives a shit?  Loser!
>
> Well, pardon the hell out of me, but if you don't "give a shit," don't
> read it, Dick...
>
> --
> --Patrick

 "Dick Gozinya <[e-mail]" is no doubt a psuedonym. He's
obviously some sort of lowlife, unimaginative coward.

--
Michael Alexander
[e-mail]


From [e-mail] Thu Nov 07 21:19:10 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Toby Te Rupe)
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Subject: Advice for Newbie buying a Pro 26 Scanner
Date: 31 Oct 1996 10:39:19 GMT
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Can you please fill me in on the Pro's and Con's of this model please.  I am
about to purchase one second hand for $450 $NZ (New Zealand) Which equates to
about $230 $US.  Is this a good proice for this model (second hand).
I am not a totally a newbie, do know a very terminologies, but not the really
technical ones please.
Thanks in advance for any replies.



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From [e-mail] Thu Nov 07 21:19:11 1996
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From: [e-mail]
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Subject: Cellular Telephone High Pitch Tone
Date: Thu, 31 Oct 1996 03:49:01 -0700
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Does anyone know what is the purpose (or cause) of the super high pitch
tone you can hear on a cellular frequency?  I'm talking about the one
that is so high its equivilant to what you hear when your ears are
ringing; maybe even higher.  :)  I've noticed this on ALL cellular
frequencies when there is a carrier present, and NEVER on any non-
cellular frequencies I monitor.

Also, what is the cause of the cellular phone owner's audio not being
heard?  In some conversations, its quite low in volume, and in others,
both parties are equal in audio level.  But for some you will never
hear the person with the cellular phone talking at all.  Apparently,
in this case, when the cell phone owner speaks, you can hear the
person who's not on the cell phone's audio being cut out (detectable
from the quick cutting in and out of background noise from the non-
cell user's phone).  Why does this happen?

Brian Petersen
[e-mail]


From [e-mail] Thu Nov 07 21:19:12 1996
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From: Chris <[e-mail]>
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If you go to the Motorola site, www.motorola.com , there are images in
their text that you can get.  You may have to pick them out of your
Cache directory though, but they have pictures of most all of their
current equipment along with specs.


From [e-mail] Thu Nov 07 21:19:13 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Clay Irving)
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In <[e-mail]> "tom.chambers" <[e-mail]> wri
tes:

>I subscribe to an interesting UK scanner list server,but I haven't been
>able to locate a list covering my Washington,DC tri state area.Any
>one know of anything? Thanks, [e-mail]

Every scanning list I know about is listed at:

        Scanning Reference/Media/Mailing Lists
        http://www.panix.com/~clay/scanning/media/lists.shtml

--
Clay Irving N2VKG
[e-mail]
http://www.panix.com/~clay/


From [e-mail] Thu Nov 07 21:19:15 1996
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From: [e-mail](BAYCITVIDGRP)
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Subject: Re: All hail King Mackey the Great
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    Nicely put.

    One problem....will the IDIOT of Mackey GET IT?

    I am sure it's going to WHOOOSSH! right on past
    whatever receptors of his reality are still able
    to undertsand how low he has to go to stand up.

    Your King Mackey the Great should have read

     Idiot of Mackey the Redundant
                         Verbosity of Silenced Thinking
                         Virtuouso of Idle Might
                         Bile Filling of Brain-Drain

     What images you have let loose on this oaf of the putrid
     in things cast from the larvae of pidgeon droppings.

      YOu have given him the lowness he deftly deserves and
      it's my hope that those who know him bestow this prize
      on any he cohabits with.  Or even where he goes to the
      store or maybe he pops off covers of garbage cans to
      reconstitute his odiferous personality.

      What will happen will be the next step: he WON'T get it.
      Get being the verb and It being the noun.

      Your work is a work of intellectual tickling our fancies.
      You exacted the rightness of those who have the ability
      to stay focused and aware of their surroundings.

      bill conduit
      etc. guy


From [e-mail] Thu Nov 07 21:19:16 1996
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Subject: Churches chicken
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does any one have the drive thru frequencies for churches chicken ?
Thanks,
                              Dave


From [e-mail] Thu Nov 07 21:19:17 1996
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From: [e-mail](Jim Tedford)
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Subject: Best Internet Resource
Date: 31 Oct 1996 14:10:20 GMT
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I'm compiling a list of frequency-finding resources.  If you had to pick
one single internet resource for finding specific frequencies, what
would you choose?

You can e-mail me or post here.  I'll post whatever results I get
here in a couple of weeks.

Thanks!

jdt


From [e-mail] Thu Nov 07 21:19:18 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Steve Work)
Subject: Re: AOR 8000 and Broadcast Band?
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gunner ([e-mail]) wrote:
: I think it is a valid argument, though.  If you drive a $30,000
: four-wheeler, then you should be able to cruise it on the street; if
: you buy a $5000 computer, you should be able to do simple text-based
: word processing; and if you buy a $600.00 scanner, you sure as hell
: should be able to listen to AM radio on the damn thing.

Why wear out a $600 scanner listening to AM radio?  I'd rather put the
hours on a $6 transistor radio.




From [e-mail] Thu Nov 07 21:19:19 1996
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From: [e-mail](Jim Tedford)
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Subject: Dallas on The Internet
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Does anybody know what the technical setup is for the Dallas
PD and ATC that Audionet is using?  Is it an ordinary scanner hooked
to a server, or is there some other type of arrangement?

And is there any other scanner-type trafffic available on the internet?

(Anyone who hasn't heard it should check it out.  Use your web
browser to go to http://www.audionet.com.  You'll need RealAudio
(http://www.realaudio.com) to be able to access it.

jdt


From [e-mail] Thu Nov 07 21:19:20 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Steve Work)
Subject: Re: Cellular Telephone High Pitch Tone
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[e-mail] wrote:
: Does anyone know what is the purpose (or cause) of the super high pitch
: tone you can hear on a cellular frequency?  I'm talking about the one
: that is so high its equivilant to what you hear when your ears are
: ringing; maybe even higher.  :)  I've noticed this on ALL cellular
: frequencies when there is a carrier present, and NEVER on any non-
: cellular frequencies I monitor.

It's called a signalling tone (ST), it is a 10Khz tone used by the cell
tower to control the operation of the phone.  Often it is repeated 5 times.
A buzzing noise, another signal you hear, is a burst of data.  This is
used by the tower to command the phone to change frequency or power.  It
is also used by the phone to signal the tower it is starting a call, and
to identify itself.

: Also, what is the cause of the cellular phone owner's audio not being
: heard?  In some conversations, its quite low in volume, and in others,
: both parties are equal in audio level.  But for some you will never
: hear the person with the cellular phone talking at all.  Apparently,
: in this case, when the cell phone owner speaks, you can hear the
: person who's not on the cell phone's audio being cut out (detectable
: from the quick cutting in and out of background noise from the non-
: cell user's phone).  Why does this happen?

Cellular systems are duplex, which means there are two freqencies, one
from phone to tower, and one from tower to phone.  Each frequency is
primarily responsible for carrying one side of the conversation.  But in
many cases, the tower "repeats" the cell phone signal, this enables the
person talking on the phone to hear themselves.  But towers sometimes do
not repeat the base signal, it depends on what mode they are operating
in.  I am not sure of why the operating mode of the tower changes,
however.


From [e-mail] Thu Nov 07 21:19:21 1996
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From: Paul Jackson <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: All hail King Mackey the Great
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Richard Kendrick wrote:
>
> Behold brothers and sisters, I bring you the profound story
> ......
> All hail King Mackey the Great.
>


:-)

Good!  I'm ready for the video!  :-)


From [e-mail] Thu Nov 07 21:19:23 1996
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From: [e-mail] (HH357)
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Subject: Re: Cellular Telephone High Pitch Tone
Date: 31 Oct 1996 09:44:46 -0500
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In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] writes:

>
>Does anyone know what is the purpose (or cause) of the super high pitch
>tone you can hear on a cellular frequency?  I'm talking about the one
>that is so high its equivilant to what you hear when your ears are
>ringing; maybe even higher.  :)  I've noticed this on ALL cellular
>frequencies when there is a carrier present, and NEVER on any non-
>cellular frequencies I monitor.

I don't know about the source of the tone you're talking about, but I know
what you mean.
It seems to me that the "better" scanners, like the pro-43 don't seem to
have this problem.   My older pro-37 definitely has it, and so does my
even older pro-2004, but to a MUCH less extent than than the 37.

If you use an audio filter such as the RS - DSP unit, or other type of
audio filter you can eliminate the noise entirely.
                        cheers


From [e-mail] Thu Nov 07 21:19:24 1996
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From: [e-mail]
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Subject: Re: Cellular Telephone High Pitch Tone
Date: Thu, 31 Oct 1996 07:58:23 -0700
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HH357 wrote:
>
> In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] writes:
>
> >
> >Does anyone know what is the purpose (or cause) of the super high pitch
> >tone you can hear on a cellular frequency?  I'm talking about the one
> >that is so high its equivilant to what you hear when your ears are
> >ringing; maybe even higher.  :)  I've noticed this on ALL cellular
> >frequencies when there is a carrier present, and NEVER on any non-
> >cellular frequencies I monitor.
>
> I don't know about the source of the tone you're talking about, but I know
> what you mean.
> It seems to me that the "better" scanners, like the pro-43 don't seem to
> have this problem.   My older pro-37 definitely has it, and so does my
> even older pro-2004, but to a MUCH less extent than than the 37.
>
> If you use an audio filter such as the RS - DSP unit, or other type of
> audio filter you can eliminate the noise entirely.

Actually, the noise is definitely a part of the audio in the carrier.  Its
just a matter of whether the speaker in your scanner responds to frequencies
that high in pitch which determines if/how well you'll hear it.  :)  Either
way, I have my PRO-2006 going into one of my stereo's auxiliary jacks with
a RCA jack splitter and am able to weed out the tone using my 1-gillion band
equalizer.  Its just that when I'm listening to my handheld with headphones,
where I don't have the luxury of an EQ, that it gets REALLY annoying.  <g>

Brian Petersen
[e-mail]


From [e-mail] Thu Nov 07 21:19:25 1996
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From: [e-mail]
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Steve Work wrote:
>
> [e-mail] wrote:
> : Does anyone know what is the purpose (or cause) of the super high pitch
> : tone you can hear on a cellular frequency?  I'm talking about the one
> : that is so high its equivilant to what you hear when your ears are
> : ringing; maybe even higher.  :)  I've noticed this on ALL cellular
> : frequencies when there is a carrier present, and NEVER on any non-
> : cellular frequencies I monitor.
>
> It's called a signalling tone (ST), it is a 10Khz tone used by the cell
> tower to control the operation of the phone.  Often it is repeated 5 times.
> A buzzing noise, another signal you hear, is a burst of data.  This is
> used by the tower to command the phone to change frequency or power.  It
> is also used by the phone to signal the tower it is starting a call, and
> to identify itself.

Actually I was talking about the steady tone you hear during conversations;
not the data bursts heard before/after a frequency shift.

> : Also, what is the cause of the cellular phone owner's audio not being
> : heard?  In some conversations, its quite low in volume, and in others,
> : both parties are equal in audio level.  But for some you will never
> : hear the person with the cellular phone talking at all.  Apparently,
> : in this case, when the cell phone owner speaks, you can hear the
> : person who's not on the cell phone's audio being cut out (detectable
> : from the quick cutting in and out of background noise from the non-
> : cell user's phone).  Why does this happen?
>
> Cellular systems are duplex, which means there are two freqencies, one
> from phone to tower, and one from tower to phone.  Each frequency is
> primarily responsible for carrying one side of the conversation.  But in
> many cases, the tower "repeats" the cell phone signal, this enables the
> person talking on the phone to hear themselves.  But towers sometimes do
> not repeat the base signal, it depends on what mode they are operating
> in.  I am not sure of why the operating mode of the tower changes,
> however.

Hmmm.  Maybe there are phones out there now which let the cell user hear
his own voice internally (without having the audio take a round trip thru
the cell tower first), and if this is present, the phone tells the tower
not to duplex the cell caller's voice?  Just a guess.

Brian Petersen
[e-mail]


From [e-mail] Thu Nov 07 21:19:26 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Bob Parnass, AJ9S)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner,alt.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Advice for Newbie buying a Pro 26 Scanner
Date: 31 Oct 1996 15:02:10 GMT
Organization: Bell Laboratories, Naperville, IL
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In article <559vkn$[e-mail]>,
Toby Te Rupe <[e-mail]> wrote:

        >Can you please fill me in on the Pro's and Con's of [the PRO-26]
        > ... about to purchase one second hand for $450 $NZ (New Zealand)
        >Which equates to about $230 $US.


When you buy a used radio.  Check each corner for dents.
A radio which is dropped will almost always fall on a corner
first.

From the "Buying a Used Scanner FAQ:"


PRO-26: 1995 vintage.  Very good portable made by for  Radio
Shack by Uniden.  200 channels, very fast scan/search.  Good
display.  Covers all TV channels, but spectrum  adjacent  to
cellular  phone  band  is censored which prevents monitoring
parts  of  some  trunked  systems  (e.g.,  IL  State  Police
district  4).   Up  to  50 frequencies can be skipped during
search.  Limited  image  rejection  causes  929  MHz  paging
interference in 170 MHz range.  IFs are 380.7/254.4, 58.075,
and 5.5/0.455 MHz.  Audio suffers from small  speaker.   See
"The  Radio  Shack  PRO-26 vs. Uniden/Bearcat BC3000XLT," by
Bob Parnass, AJ9S, in Monitoring Times, August 1995.


BC3000XLT (Uniden): 1995  vintage.   Excellent  400  channel
portable  with  20  banks.   Up conversion.  Very fast scan,
search, and intelligent Auto Store.  Mode,  attenuator,  and
delay   settings   programmable   for   each   channel.   50
frequencies can be locked out during search.  Larger speaker
than PRO-26 produces better, crisper audio.  See "The Uniden
Bearcat BC3000XLT," by  Bob  Parnass,  AJ9S,  in  Monitoring
Times,   April   1995   and  "The  Radio  Shack  PRO-26  vs.
Uniden/Bearcat  BC3000XLT,"  by  Bob   Parnass,   AJ9S,   in
Monitoring Times, August 1995.

Reprints of articles from Monitoring Times are available
for $2.00 each plus a self-addressed stamped envelope from:

      Grove Enterprises, 300 S. Highway 64 West,  Brasstown,
      NC  28902.   For  a  free catalog, call [phone].
      Telephone (orders only): [phone].

Note: I don't get any part of the $2.00.
--

==============================================================================
Copyright  1996,   Bob Parnass,  AJ9S     AMPS Wireless Development Laboratory
[e-mail] - [phone]     Bell Laboratories


From [e-mail] Thu Nov 07 21:19:27 1996
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From: [e-mail]
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Best Rubberducky Antenna?
Date: Thu, 31 Oct 1996 08:03:16 -0700
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Is there such a thing as a 'better' or 'high performance' rubber duck
antenna for handheld scanners?  Any info or thoughts on the matter would
be appreciated.  I sort of have a feeling they're all the same, and what
antennas out there that ARE better aren't THAT much better - not at least
enough to justify the hyped cost.  :)

Brian Petersen
[e-mail]


From [e-mail] Thu Nov 07 21:19:28 1996
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From: Bob Mann <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Antenna Specialists CCA-806 Patch Antenna
Date: Thu, 31 Oct 1996 10:04:03 -0500
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Any experience with this passive patch antenna, reported to give 3db
boost to portable cellphones?
--
- Bob Mann
  R.W. Mann & Company, Inc.
  e-mail:  [e-mail]
  http://www.interport.net/~rwmannco/


From [e-mail] Thu Nov 07 21:19:29 1996
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From: [e-mail] (David Horak)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: 2006/PRO34 speed mod
Date: 31 Oct 1996 09:17:59 -0600
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>In article <[e-mail]>, "Scott A. Nelson" <[e-mail]> wrote:

>> A few years ago I tried to modify mt PRO34 for increased scanning
>> speed. The mod worked fine- it increased scanning speed, but it would
>> never stop on anything!  The NOAA wx wouldn't even stop it.  I then
>> decided that it would be better to slow it back down.  I did and it works

I did this to my pro34 years ago.  I found that any crystal over 4 MHz
would not work.  A TV crystal (3.55...) should work fine and give you
a modest speed increase over the standard 2MHz crystal.

>>      My question is this.  I also have a PRO2006 and have thought about
>> doing this mod, but have never done so based on my previous experience.
>> Has anyone else ever had this problem?  Are you satisfied with your 2006
>> speed modification?  Thanks in advance.

This involves cutting a diode that will speed the scan from 26 to 30 cps.
It works fine.  The other speed mod changes the crystal from 12 to 16 MHz
(I think) and although I haven't done it, I've never heard anyone
complain about it NOT working.

David


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From: Greg Gilbert <[e-mail]>
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Subject: WS-1000 radio
Date: Thu, 31 Oct 1996 10:20:56 -0500
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Hi All,

Any comments; good and bad on the "small scanner"; from
Javiation; the WS-1000 radio? I was thinking about getting one.

Any good on Shortwave? Equall to the AR8000 in receiving the
signals as well; HF and VHF?UHF?

Thanks to all in advance. Private e-mail would be best.

Thanks,

:-) Greg
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From [e-mail] Thu Nov 07 21:19:32 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Lileeth A Atkinson)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.scanner,rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: KENWOOD TH-79AD(H) MODIFICATION SUCCESSFUL
Date: 31 Oct 1996 15:23:25 GMT
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I've seen questions regarding this in all three forums, so I've crossposted.

Very recently picked up a Kenwood TH-79AD(High-Power) handheld.  After searchi
ng
the net for a day, and finding out not much of anything, I decided to
experiment.  I'm sure all of you have been looking.

The serial number (date code) on the radio is 7040-something.  Brand new unit.

Despite what the original author believes(talked with him yesterday), the
published mod for the 79a *DOES* work.  I have a couple suggestions to add
though.

First, the original mod suggests that you remove the ribbon cable.  From the
people who have tried this method, it seems as though they have problems with
their keyboards.  Chances are, the ribbon cable (which incidentally is *really
*
thin) is probably not being put back correctly.  Suggestion #1 - LEAVE THE
RIBBON CABLE ALONE.

Next, There is the MARS/CAP modification that tells you to CUT the green wire.
From what I've seen and heard, you can only do the MARS/CAP modification or
the wideband modification.  In my opinion, unless you need specific access
to 420-438mhz, I'd leave it alone.  I simply did the wideband modification.
I'm not going to repeat(or look up for that matter) what freq's it opens up,
but I'm summarize the results.  EXTENDED RECEIVE AND EXTENDED TRANSMIT.

I talked with an electrical engineer who did surface mount tech work for
Panasonic.   If you don't know what surface mount tech involves, THINK small.
Not just small, tiny tiny tiny.  He used magnifying glasses, special lights,
and even microscopes to work on some units.  It requires special tools.

The people I've talked with have had problems trying to desolder this diodes.
THEY ARE WAY TOO SMALL AND TOO CLOSE TOGETHER.

Now listen, I'm just a regular kid off the street.  I've assembled heathkit
projects, and built little tone generators and the like.  I don't have any
surface mount experience at all.  I certainly don't have the tools or the skil
l.
After talking with this tech, he suggested that I cut the diodes off the board
with an exacto knife.  Didn't have one of those either.  So I used one of
those tiny flat head screwdrivers you buy at Radio Shack.

VERY CAREFULLY, I took the screwdriver and pressed down firmly on the legs
of the diodes.  This literally cut the diode from the leg soldered on the boar
d
This would normally sound hard to do, but remember these legs are a FRACTION
of a millimeter.  After that, I used tweezers to pull the diode off the board.
BTW, the diode is glued to the board, but a firm pull removes it.  I did this
to the two diodes.  I removed both diodes cleanly.  No damage at all to the
PC BOARD.

Put back the four screws, turned on the unit and blam-o.  One modified unit.

Think this is a fluke ?  Think I got lucky ?  Nope.  A friend brought his
79AD(H) over, and he performed the mod exactly the way I had mine.  BOOM,
clean removal, no problems.  No keyboard problems, no iradic operation. Just
a clean uncensored radio.

This is not meant to be a standalone mod.  Use this message as an addendum
to the original modification document.  Its like rel 1.5.  The filename
everywhere is '79a.txt' in the Kenwood directory under mods.  The file
structure is basically setup the same everywhere, whether it be FTP, HTTP, or
gopher.  mods/kenwood/79a.txt.  Searching a web engine like
http://www.altavista.com or http://www.lycos.com or http://www.yahoo.com
will definitely yield results.

Hope this answers any questions.  Thanks to Renegade.

VeeBee



From [e-mail] Thu Nov 07 21:19:33 1996
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From: Will Beachy <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner,alt.radio.scanner
Subject: Frequency Counter Help Please
Date: Thu, 31 Oct 1996 12:19:21 -0400
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I want to buy a frequency counter but I'm not sure about a few things.
One, what exactly does it do/is it used for?  Two, how do you use it?
Finally, what kind should I purchase?

Regards,
Will


From [e-mail] Thu Nov 07 21:19:34 1996
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From: Seric <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Pro-2004 mod help
Date: Thu, 31 Oct 1996 08:49:15 -0800
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I am looking for information on how to hack a Radio Shack Pro-2004 to
get cell freq's.  Thank you in advance.
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From [e-mail] Thu Nov 07 21:19:35 1996
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From: Rich Wells <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: Incredible Scanner night!
Date: Thu, 31 Oct 1996 12:12:51 -0500
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Michael Alexander wrote:
> Dick Gozinya wrote:
>  Who gives a shit?  Loser!

>  "Dick Gozinya <[e-mail]" is no doubt a psuedonym. He's
> obviously some sort of lowlife, unimaginative coward.

Not to mention the fact that he probably used 90% of his vocabulary to
compose his wonderful prose. ;-)


From [e-mail] Thu Nov 07 21:19:36 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Dale Fravel N2LWY)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Real  Audio Railroad  web site
Date: Thu, 31 Oct 96 17:27:26 GMT
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Does any know of any Real Audio site with Railroad audio?

Thanks
Dale Fravel




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From: [e-mail] (Michael Schuster)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Best Rubberducky Antenna?
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In article <[e-mail]>,  <[e-mail]> wrote:
>Is there such a thing as a 'better' or 'high performance' rubber duck
>antenna for handheld scanners?  Any info or thoughts on the matter would
>be appreciated.  I sort of have a feeling they're all the same, and what
>antennas out there that ARE better aren't THAT much better - not at least
>enough to justify the hyped cost.  :)

My favorites are the GRE All-Band or (if size is not a problem) the Austin
Condor.


--
Mike Schuster           |       [e-mail]
[e-mail]      |       [e-mail]


From [e-mail] Thu Nov 07 21:19:37 1996
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From: "Patrick D. Lukens" <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner,alt.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Incredible Scanner night!
Date: Thu, 31 Oct 1996 09:41:23 -0800
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Reverend Tweek wrote:
>
> [rec.pets.cats]
> [rec.garden.figs]
> [alt.buttwipe]
> [alt.dump.your.load.on.dick]
> Dick Gozinya  <[e-mail]> wrote:
> >Thomas Crapper <[e-mail]> writes:
> >>
> >>Don't you mean "looser", Dick?  Have a fig.
> >
> >Who gives a shit?  Loser!
>
> In other words Dick, If you don't care to read or discuss the
> hobby of scanning, UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THE FUCKING GROUP!

Interesting.  Same reply in several groups.  Is it possible for some lame
jerk to write a program which ramdonly attaches to several post with the
same reply (Like one of those cancel-bots which randomly cancels
thousands of usenet messages?)  It would be an interesting way to start
flames without actually having to read any groups...

Either that, or this guy has a *lot* of time on his hands to be making
juvenile anonymous posts...

--
--Patrick


From [e-mail] Thu Nov 07 21:19:38 1996
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From: "Patrick D. Lukens" <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: All hail King Mackey the Great
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Now if you *gotta* continue the flame wars, *that's* the way to do it.
You're a great writer, Richard!

--
--Patrick

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From [e-mail] Thu Nov 07 21:19:40 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Reverend Tweek)
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In article <[e-mail]>, Patrick D. Lukens <[e-mail]> wrote:
>Reverend Tweek wrote:
>>
>> [rec.pets.cats]
>> [rec.garden.figs]
>> [alt.buttwipe]
>> [alt.dump.your.load.on.dick]
>
>Interesting.  Same reply in several groups.

Not exactly...

>Either that, or this guy has a *lot* of time on his hands to be making
>juvenile anonymous posts...

But I see you got the point anyway.





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From: Ken Koller <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Air Force 1 Freq?
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Da Prez is flying in tonight 10-31. I have 415.7 already programed in, is
there anything else I should dial in?


Ken Koller

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From [e-mail] Thu Nov 07 21:19:41 1996
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From: Andrew Marshall <[e-mail]>
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In article <[e-mail]>, "Jory McIntosh, KB5UBS"
<[e-mail]> writes
>
>I can recieve a lowfer station at 184 Khz

Please pardon my ignorance, but what is a 'lowfer' station? Some sort of
beacon? (afaicr, there are no 'long wave' <150-290KHz approx> broadcast
stations in the US, so must be another service I assume). Can anyone
enlighten me please?

Regards,
--
Andrew Marshall
[e-mail]


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From: [e-mail] (Drew Durigan)
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Subject: Halloween Riots in St. Petersburg
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It was one week ago tonight that the black animals rioted in St.
Petersburg, Florida.  By sheer coincidence, it is also Halloween!  I
fully expect another night of rioting, looting, shooting, burning
buildings, etc.

Which frequencies should I have programmed into the 'ol scanner?


-Drew in Sunny Central Florida-



From [e-mail] Thu Nov 07 21:19:43 1996
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Hi -

Im looking for the freq's for American Medical Response (AMR)
they are located out of Natick MASS.  I know they use 2 different
freq's because they aquired ASA/Norfork Bristol and Chaulk.
If someone has these I'd appreciate it if you can pass them
on to me.

Thanks

JJ



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From: "Barry Burke Jr." <[e-mail]>
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I finally own a place where I can install an outdoor scanner antenna.

I'm looking for recommendations on a good one.

What about the Grove Scanner Beam?  The Antennacraft Scantenna?


Any info would be welcomed.


Thanks!

Barry


From [e-mail] Thu Nov 07 21:19:45 1996
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From: Curtis Wheeler <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: Cellular Telephone High Pitch Tone
Date: Thu, 31 Oct 1996 11:50:41 -0800
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[e-mail] wrote:
>
> Does anyone know what is the purpose (or cause) of the super high pitch
> tone you can hear on a cellular frequency?  I'm talking about the one
> that is so high its equivilant to what you hear when your ears are
> ringing; maybe even higher.  :)  I've noticed this on ALL cellular
> frequencies when there is a carrier present, and NEVER on any non-
> cellular frequencies I monitor.
>

You are likely hearing what is called SAT (supervisory audio tone).  I
beleive this is supposed to be an "out of band signal" but you can
usually hear it.  It's about a 6 KHz tone if I remember correctly.  It
is one of the signals used between the cellsite and the cellphone to
keep the call up.

Regards

--
Curtis


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From: J&J Mac <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: Bootleggers on 155.200 Mhz
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Curtis Wheeler wrote:
>
> N5OFF wrote:
> >
> > The other night I heard some fisherman/bootleggers using 155.200 Mhz as a
> > chit chat channel.
> >
> > The allocations in this area run in 15 Khz splits, and the nearest channel
> > is 155.205, used here for ambulance services.
> >
> > Wonder if the downsized FCC has the capacity to police interference to an
> > ambulance company or other public safety agencies?
> >
> > Wonder what kind of radios these guys are using, also?
> >
> > My location is near the Gulf of Mexico, S. Louisiana, and the interference
> > is to Acadian Ambulance Co.
>
> Did the ambulance company actually suffer any interference, or do you
> just assume they did?  If the company is actually sufferning from
> interference the FCC certainly has the capacity to help - but they have
> to be told about it.
>
> Have you heard these 'bootleggers' on a regular basis?  Could they be a
> licensed operation some distance away that you are hearing due to
> conditions?
>
> --
> Curtis



Might even be someone on 155.595 with a badly tuned system.  A local PD uses t
hat freq out here..

Jim..


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From: Curtis Wheeler <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: Cellular Telephone High Pitch Tone
Date: Thu, 31 Oct 1996 12:03:14 -0800
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[e-mail] wrote:
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> Also, what is the cause of the cellular phone owner's audio not being
> heard?  In some conversations, its quite low in volume, and in others,
> both parties are equal in audio level.  But for some you will never
> hear the person with the cellular phone talking at all.  Apparently,
> in this case, when the cell phone owner speaks, you can hear the
> person who's not on the cell phone's audio being cut out (detectable
> from the quick cutting in and out of background noise from the non-
> cell user's phone).  Why does this happen?

When you are listening to the cellsites transmit frequency you will
often hear the cellphone's audio being sent back out with the "distant
end's" audio.  This is to provide "sidetone".

Sidetone is the user's transmited audio fed back to his receiver so he
can "hear himself".  When you pick up a regular telephone you can
usually hear yourself as long as there is "battery" on the line - even
if you don't get dialtone.  The sidetone levels may differ from channel
to channel for on reason or another.  Additionally, if a cellphone's
transmit deviation is low it will result in lower sidetone.

The main purpose of sidetone is to help the caller determine how loud to
talk.  Low sidetone will tend to make people talk louder (like when your
teenager yells during a normal conversation when they have their Walkman
headset on - they can't hear themselves so they tend to talk louder.)
High sidetone will tend to make a user speak more softly.

Regards


--
Curtis


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From: "Andrew R. Gozdziewski" <[e-mail]>
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Subject: GMRS License?
Date: Thu, 31 Oct 1996 20:43:32 +0000
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Does anyone know what the average time for the turn around of a GMRS
license?  I sent mine in about two weeks ago and it hasn't arrived yet.

Thanks in advance!

Andrew


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From: Ron Williscroft <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: Cellular Telephone High Pitch Tone
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[e-mail] wrote:
>
> Does anyone know what is the purpose (or cause) of the super high pitch
> tone you can hear on a cellular frequency?  I'm talking about the one
> that is so high its equivilant to what you hear when your ears are
> ringing; maybe even higher.  :)  I've noticed this on ALL cellular
> frequencies when there is a carrier present, and NEVER on any non-
> cellular frequencies I monitor.
>
> Also, what is the cause of the cellular phone owner's audio not being
> heard?  In some conversations, its quite low in volume, and in others,
> both parties are equal in audio level.  But for some you will never
> hear the person with the cellular phone talking at all.  Apparently,
> in this case, when the cell phone owner speaks, you can hear the
> person who's not on the cell phone's audio being cut out (detectable
> from the quick cutting in and out of background noise from the non-
> cell user's phone).  Why does this happen?
>
> Brian Petersen
> [e-mail]---------------------
Brain, This tone is called an SAT or Supervisory Audio Tone. It can be
5970Hz, 6000Hz or 6030Hz.

It is used to verify the complete (loop) audio path from the Cell-site
to the mobile and back. This allows the cell-site to ensure that the
channel has been captured and also allows for continuous loop-check.

The mail purpose is to verify the mobile or portable has captured the
channel and the site controller continuously monitors the the SAT and if
the site does not detect SAT for usually more than 3 seconds it
disconnects the channel.

It is also used to verify correct handoff. eg. the site will send info
to the mobile telling what channel to switch to and what SAT to
transmit, it verifies that it has rcvd to correct mobile at the new site
by seeing the mobile come up on channel with the correct SAT.

Hope I've Helped

Best Regards,

Ron Williscroft, VE4QE
Former Field Technician with Bell Cellular


From [e-mail] Thu Nov 07 21:19:50 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Steve Work)
Subject: Re: Antenna Specialists CCA-806 Patch Antenna
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Bob Mann ([e-mail]) wrote:
: Any experience with this passive patch antenna, reported to give 3db
: boost to portable cellphones?
: --

The antenna does not actually create more power.  What it does is channel
the radiated power so that more of it emanates horizontally and less
towards the sky.  Generally, you want to use an antenna like this when
you are in a rural area, not when you are in a city.  In a rural area you
are likely to be further away from the towers.





From [e-mail] Thu Nov 07 21:19:51 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Steve Work)
Subject: Re: Pro-2004 mod help
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Seric ([e-mail]) wrote:
: I am looking for information on how to hack a Radio Shack Pro-2004 to
: get cell freq's.  Thank you in advance.
: --

The radio is easily moddable by just cutting a wire.  If you search on
terms like "radio, scanner, mods, pro2004" you should have no problem
finding out how.  One such site might be
ftp://oak.oakland.edu/pub/hamradio/mods or you might try
www.acs.oakland.edu there is an amateur radio link on this page.




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tests tsese test


From [e-mail] Thu Nov 07 21:19:53 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Raymond Miller)
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Subject: Scanner To Trade
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Would like to trade a very nice PRO-62 Hand held scanner for any of the
following, in nice shape: PRO-51; PRO-43; PRO-39; PRO-2004.
E-mail if interested.
Regards,
Ray Miller N2NJK


From [e-mail] Thu Nov 07 21:19:54 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Robert L. Ennis)
Subject: Re: Best Internet Resource
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[e-mail](Jim Tedford) wrote:

>I'm compiling a list of frequency-finding resources.  If you had to pick
>one single internet resource for finding specific frequencies, what
>would you choose?

>You can e-mail me or post here.  I'll post whatever results I get
>here in a couple of weeks.

Jim,

One of the best resources on the internet for frequency information,
which I just posted the othernight in alt.radio.scanner, is the WEB
site [www.perconcorp.com/db_srch.htm].  It also helps if you search by
the name of the "county seat" (city name) because that is where the
sheriff departments are usually located, as well as State Police
agencies.  Take a look at it and let me know what you think,

Rob Ennis
[e-mail]




From [e-mail] Thu Nov 07 21:19:56 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Sid James)
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[e-mail] (Sid James) wrote:

I must assume from all the posts stateside than
I am the only person in the UK to have bought an 8000
I feel very proud indeed.......
Come on guys get your noses out of the 8000 operating manual (now how
do I to a program search.....) and tell me about the 8000...

For instance did you know that the CE approved 8000's are not as
sensitive as the pre CE approved ones... so much for Europe eh !

Sid



From [e-mail] Thu Nov 07 21:19:57 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Sid James)
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Subject: Re: LW receiption on AR8000
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"Jory McIntosh, KB5UBS" <[e-mail]> wrote:

>I have an AOR AR8000 that receives from 100 Khz to 1950 Mhz.
Um.... I thought all 8000's did that reception 500 to 1950 actual
input from 100.... and presumably reception if the signal is strong
enough...

sid



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[e-mail] (Tomcat305) wrote:

>Hi, I just got a AR8000 and Some of my freqs. are fuzzy at times so I just
>put that ATT thingy on and it takes it out, but that eliminates the
>distant signals, Is the Fuzzy stuff from the crappy antenna?

It might help it you disclose what frequencies are fuzzy and exactly
what you mean by fuzzy .... Is that the same as fuzzy logic !!

Sid



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From: [e-mail] (GILLINS)
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Date: 31 Oct 1996 17:07:55 -0500
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I bought one when they first came out for around $500 you did get a good
deal but thats how electronics go. I love mine and im thinking of
purchasing form optoelectronics the OS535 board so i can run it from my
pc.and unlock the 800 mhz range have fun.


From [e-mail] Thu Nov 07 21:19:59 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Clint Bradford)
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Subject: RE: FRS and GMRS info please.
Date: Thu, 31 Oct 1996 22:28:00 GMT
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>>Can someone please point me to info on Family Radio Service and the
>>common frequencies to GMRS.  Also the output power levels would be
>>helpful.  I am thinking about using an HT I have now on FRS but I know
>>little about it .

The FRS is good for about as far as you can yell, Bob. <g>

1/2-watt max output...

I will Email you the Docket/RuleMaking creating the FRS.

-Clint Bradford


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From: "Peter A. Forkes" <[e-mail]>
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Radio Shack have a 100 channel mobile scanner on sale for $150.  It's
reduced by $100 so it's not a bad price, but is it any good?
--
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From [e-mail] Thu Nov 07 21:20:01 1996
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From: [e-mail] (kEN Colburn)
Subject: Re: Proposed trip to Area-51
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What a moron. Anyway, suppose the Dr. goes to Area 51 and exposes
someting that saves us taxpayers from a billion $ scam?
Hey Rob your laser printer is ruining the ozone layer, SMASH IT NOW.
--
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From: [e-mail] (Victor Healey)
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In article <[e-mail]>  posted on
Sat, 26 Oct 1996 20:22:49 -0400,
Michael Alexander  who is at mailto:[e-mail] says...
> I'm sorry, but nobody goes into the magazine publishing business expecting
> to make big bucks in a hurry.
Really?....

Does the name Wanye Greene mean anything to anyone?

--
Victor Healey Ki4je
Marietta Ga.


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From: [e-mail] (kEN Colburn)
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Kinda late but i figger SOMEONE in LA must have monitored what when on in
the oj chase. Details?
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MackDaddy <[e-mail]> wrote in article
<[e-mail]>...
> tests tsese test
                ^
Apparently the test did not work.




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Anyone know the NY_Metro 800 mhz frequ's in nyc?


From [e-mail] Thu Nov 07 21:20:08 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Steve Kennedy)
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"George T. Pasel Jr." <[e-mail]> wrote:

>This might be old hat for most of you but I thought I'd ask anyhow.

>I just bought a PRO-2026 that RS has on close out sale now and in one of
>the older mod lists I found the instructions to clip L201 to restore the
>blocked 800mhz range.  Well when I opened it up the PC board has the
>markings for L201, but it is no longer there.

>My question is; is the newer 2026 now permently blocked or is there
>another mod to restore 800 mhz.  I did look for a FAQ, but so far I have
>not found much.

>Thanks for any help.

>George


The newer units built after April 1994 do not have an L201, and cannot
be "unblocked" because the microprocessor code was changed to
eliminate that capability.

The date code on the box and rear of the scanner looks like this (I'll
use mine for example):

11A3

The number to the left of the alpha character is the month of
manufacture, the number to the left of the alpha character is the
year.  There is no indication of which decade, only the year within
the decade.

So, mine was built in November 1993 before the restrictions were put
into place.  If yours is 4A4 or later (April 1994), then you have a
unit that does not have this capability in the first place, so there
is nothing to "unblock".

Steve



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From: [e-mail] (Richard Green)
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Is there a QUALITY one - I have heard bad things on the RS model


From [e-mail] Thu Nov 07 21:20:09 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Garry)
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I know there are at least three freqs. for Fort Howard vetrans
hospital here in Ft. Howard Maryland, but I can not find them
anywhere, if anyone has a database they can search for them, I would
be ever gratefull.
Thanks
--
Garry
[e-mail]
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Does anyone know the freq for Utah Highway Patrol?



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These kind of flames I can deal with!


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From [e-mail] Thu Nov 07 21:20:11 1996
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Bravo!!
Bravisimo!!!

Well told, one and all!

I takes REAL brains to dream up such a story!!!!!


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And who said Florida wasn't part of the South?





Drew Durigan <[e-mail]> wrote in article
<55as4h$[e-mail]>...
> It was one week ago tonight that the black animals rioted in St.
> Petersburg, Florida.  By sheer coincidence, it is also Halloween!  I
> fully expect another night of rioting, looting, shooting, burning
> buildings, etc.
>
> Which frequencies should I have programmed into the 'ol scanner?
>
>
> -Drew in Sunny Central Florida-
>
>


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Andrew Marshall wrote:
>
> In article <[e-mail]>, "Jory McIntosh, KB5UBS"
> <[e-mail]> writes
> >
> >I can recieve a lowfer station at 184 Khz
>
> Please pardon my ignorance, but what is a 'lowfer' station? Some sort of
> beacon? (afaicr, there are no 'long wave' <150-290KHz approx> broadcast
> stations in the US, so must be another service I assume). Can anyone
> enlighten me please?
>
> Regards,
> --
> Andrew Marshall
> [e-mail]
Bear in mind that the AR8000 was not designed for shortwave reception.
It's designed for everything (well almost everything) above 30MHz.
Think of the shortwave ability as a bonus!  I find it to be at least
as good as my Kenwood R1000 table top shortwave.


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From: [e-mail] (Greg Griffin)
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        hello!

        i've actually had good luck with my RadShack CELLULAR glass
        mount antenna (i like its very low profile). it doesn't get
        VHF-High or Low very well, but for UHF and 800 MHz reception
        it's great!

        greg

Richard Green ([e-mail]) wrote:
: Is there a QUALITY one - I have heard bad things on the RS model
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* Greg Griffin
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From: "SCmd 'Lobo' Chistu <WOLVERINE>" <[e-mail]>
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Bernie Skoch wrote:
>
> [e-mail] (Rob Brown) wrote:
> >On Mon, 28 Oct 1996 20:49:07 GMT, [e-mail] (Dr
> >Pepper) wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>I am planning another trip to the Rachel, Nevada area for a
> >>Radio scanning trip of Area 51.  I have several ideas about
> >>what I want to do and how to do it.  I am looking for
> >>someone with the time, equipment, and similar interests.
> >>I do NOT plan on trying to get past the "cammo dudes",
> >>and I do not plan on trying to peek into the restricted area.
> >>This is a RADIO expedition.  I have all of the related maps,
> >>charts and quads, and will be using GPS  as well as other
> >>sophisticated radio and radio locating equipment.  If anyone
> >>is interested in joing me on this trip, please e-mail me at:
> >>[e-mail].  I do NOT want any money
> >>from you, and this is NOT  a scam.  I am planning to be
> >>there in the mild weather of May, 1997.
> >>
> >>Dr Pepper
> >>10 - 2 - 4
> >>Good Anytime
> >
> >
> >Dr. Pepper:
> >
> >     If you are not asking for money, then I must assume that you have
> >enough money to undertake such a trip.  I really think that with all
> >the problems in the world -- hunger, homelessness, the general moral
> >and ethical decay of our society -- it is wasteful and disgraceful
> >that you would spend your time and energy, lurking around in Nevada
> >with electronic equipment, like some ridiculous character in a Boris
> >Karloff movie.  I really think that if you have the energy to do such
> >a thing, then you should learn to expend it in dealing with things
> >that are going to help our world to progress.
> >
> >
> >Rob
> >[e-mail]
>
> Rob,
>   I seldom respond to posts on the net, but I gotta to yours.
>   Good grief.  Here's a guy who is asking if anyone wants to join him in
> a perfectly legal and legitimate trip for his enjoyment, and you have the
> gall to suggest that what he's doing with HIS money offends you?
>   Who the heck are you to tell him what he should spend his money and
> time on?

I sencond this motion.

>    Let me guess...You're voting for Clinton, right?

ehhh.. as if there was anything better.  You telling me Bod Dole with
his family-values-because-I-don't-have-anything-constructive-to-propose
act is any better???

> Regards,
> Bernie

Grtz,
Max.


From [e-mail] Thu Nov 07 21:20:17 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Tom Jones)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Police frequencies Phoenix
Date: Fri, 01 Nov 1996 01:23:56 GMT
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Anyone got all the great police frequencies for Phoenix and Maricopa
county.   Certainly, radio shack has the regular frequencies, but does
have the "inside" frequences for the detectives, etc.  Also, what
about FBI, DEA, etc.  Reply to email address please.


From [e-mail] Thu Nov 07 21:20:18 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Sherrod Munday)
Subject: WTB: Uniden MR8100 Scanner
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I'm interested in buying a Uniden MR8100 scanner.  Please e-mail me if
you have one available, and what you'd like for it.

Sherrod Munday
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From [e-mail] Thu Nov 07 21:20:19 1996
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From: "Michael J. Marcus" <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: alt.radio.scanner,rec.radio.scanner,rec.radio.shortwave
Subject: Re: LW receiption on AR8000
Date: Thu, 31 Oct 1996 17:43:07 -0800
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Jory McIntosh, KB5UBS wrote:
>
> I have an AOR AR8000 that receives from 100 Khz to 1950 Mhz. I verified
> this by receiving an air nav beacon on 365 Khz and a lowfer station at
> 184.5 Khz.  From a discussion with other 8000 owners on the newsgroups,
> most 8000s come from the factory with 500 Khz to 1950 Mhz coverage.  I
> wonder if I am the only one that has a 8000 with Long Wave receiption?
> Just for note, I bought my 8000 two months ago, and did the eeprom
> modification for 800 receiption using Radio Manager for windows.  Anyone
> else got a 8000 that receives below 500 Khz?
>
> Thanks and 73
> Jory McIntosh
> KB5UBS


Jory,

My AR8000 receives down to 100 Khz as well.  I don't have the manual
with me but I think there's some sort of disclaimer regarding
sensitivity below 500 Khz.  I can pick up the local PDX Airport Beacon,
but that's about it for below 500 Khz.  BTW, my 8K is of fairly recent
manufacture as well...

73,

Michael
KG7M / KAF4032


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From: Robert Riskin <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: Pop Can Tab Question
Date: Thu, 31 Oct 1996 17:46:45 -0800
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Bill Nelson wrote:
>
> gross ([e-mail]) wrote:
> : I heard a rumor that a gallon of aluminum pop can tabs are worth around
> : $200.00 because these tabs are pure aluminum.  This rumor came from a
> : very respected source.  If any knows if this is true, please email me
> : with your answer.  Thank You for your time.
>
> You should lose a small amount of respect for your source, who is passing
> on an urban legend (eg myth).
>
> The whole can is pure aluminum.  I have no idea how much a gallon can of
> tabs would weigh - but it is worth about $0.25 - $0.30 per pound at the
> recyclers. It does not matter whether you take them the whole can or just
> the tops - they just weigh what you provide.
>
> BillA gallon of aluminum will weigh about 21 lbs. at 165 lb/ft^3. $7.00 or
so.


From [e-mail] Thu Nov 07 21:20:21 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Daniel Ayers)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: New AOR Software
Date: 1 Nov 1996 02:25:05 GMT
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Victor Healey ([e-mail]) wrote:

: While I find it some what hard to believe that someone needs dedicated
: software when you have win 95 and office 95, I'll give it a spin just for
: fun. ;>0

So have you written WordBASIC macros that perform multichannel scanning,
spectrum analysis, priority scanning, frequency management and all those
other functions of the various scanner programs?

No?

So how do you do these things with HyperTerminal?

I am eager to see your answer, as you might have discovered something that wil
l
remove the need for the rest of us to spend $100 on scanner programs.

Daniel.


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From [e-mail] Thu Nov 07 21:20:22 1996
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From: [e-mail] (cleve e massey)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: ATTENTION LITTLE ROCK SCANNERS
Date: Thu, 31 Oct 1996 20:28:02 -0600
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We are invading Little Rock this weekend for coverage of Clinton's
election nite stuff...

You should be listening like crazy to the 450.xxx and the 455.xxx...CBS
will be putting up several radio systems...a repeater for
engineering...one for operations and one for citywide IFB.  That one will
transmit programming all the time and be interrupted for directors to talk
to on camera talent...

ABC always puts up the same kind of thing...

I believe NBC does the same, but have never worked for them, so don't know
for sure...

I will post freq. here as I find them out...

If you can get near the festivities, we use wireless mics in many
ranges...a lot in the 169-174 range and then a bunch on oddball UHF freq.


later...cleve


From [e-mail] Thu Nov 07 21:20:23 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Daniel Ayers)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Is the AR8000 all its cracked up to be ???
Date: 1 Nov 1996 02:30:43 GMT
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Todd Coles ([e-mail]) wrote:

: Why would the radio acept a frequency outside the range that it can receive?
: Doesn't really make sense.

Very true.  But the following are verifiable facts:

1. The manual states (page 115) that the scanner's coverage starts at
   500 kHz.

2. The scanner will accept input frequencies down to 100kHz.

My previous post on the matter was a bit TIC, but one does wonder what is
going on.  It seems that the AR8000 is capable of receiving below 500kHz
(contrary to the manufacturer's specifications), but I speculated that its
performance is poor/buggy so AOR decided to start the "official"
coverage at 500kHz.

Daniel.


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From [e-mail] Thu Nov 07 21:20:24 1996
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From: [e-mail](RJ WELSH)
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Subject: Re: Halloween Riots in St. Petersburg
Date: 1 Nov 1996 02:32:56 GMT
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In <01bbc788$e3243060$1a42aace@default> "Karl Dahlquist"
<[e-mail]> writes:
>
>
>And who said Florida wasn't part of the South?
>
>
>
>
>
>Drew Durigan <[e-mail]> wrote in article
><55as4h$[e-mail]>...
>> It was one week ago tonight that the black animals rioted in St.
>> Petersburg, Florida.  By sheer coincidence, it is also Halloween!  I

>> fully expect another night of rioting, looting, shooting, burning
>> buildings, etc.
>>
>> Which frequencies should I have programmed into the 'ol scanner?
>>
>>
>> -Drew in Sunny Central Florida-
>>
>>


hey, drew, you got a nice white sheet to hide under?
i'm gonna put that scanner where it'e REAL dark!


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From: [e-mail] (Todd Coles)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: AR 2700 Discontinued?
Date: Fri, 01 Nov 96 02:34:38 GMT
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I was just checking out some web sites, and a scanner dealer had a sale on the

AR2700.  The only problem - they were sold out and the dealer said that the
unit had been discontinued.  Can anyone confirm this?

Thanks

Todd


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From [e-mail] Thu Nov 07 21:20:28 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Daniel Ayers)
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Subject: Re: Sorting AR8000 freqs
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Anthony D. Proctor ([e-mail]) wrote:

: Is there any way to make the 8K sort the frequencies in the banks.

You can always enter them (manually) in frequency order, or sort them with
an external program.

Thge problem is - how do you know it will make any difference?

I know about the "turbo" modes on various scanners and how they work.  The
scan speed is improved because sorted frequencies minimise the changes to the
VFO voltage (that tunes the receiver), and if the scanner knows how long is
required and takes only that long then sorted frequencies scan faster.

However the AR8000 has programmed tuning and squelch-detect times.  Wouldn't
that suggest that the AR8000 always waits for the set length of time when
changing frequency, regardless of how long is required?  I know that it fails
to scan properly if you set that time too short, so that suggests to me it
waits as long as you tell it to regardless of what the VFO is doing.

My guess is that sorting the channels would have no effect on the AR8000.

Has anyone done any experiments?

Daniel.

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From [e-mail] Thu Nov 07 21:20:29 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Brian Humphrey)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: LA & LAS VEGAS FREQS.
Date: 1 Nov 1996 03:16:39 GMT
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In response to my post that read:

>>You can find an official list of Los Angeles City Fire Department
>>frequencies at:
>>http://www.ci.la.ca.us/dept/LAFD/freqncy.htm
>>Monitor Safely!
>>
>>Brian Humphrey
>>Public Information Officer
>>Lso Angeles City Fire Department
>>E-Mail: <[e-mail]>

[e-mail] (Anthony O. Cardenas ~ WA6IGJ) wrote:

>Brian,
>
>Do you know of a similar  WWW  site or list for LA County Fire?

Tony, unfortunately our good friends at L.A. County Fire do not have an
Internet website or e-mail. Please know that I have been urging them to
get on-line for nearly 2 years. Hopefully that will happen soon.

He also wrote...

>I now take a moment to thank you for all of your very insightful and
>helpful posts.   LAFD is really on the ball and you are a great
>ambassador for them.  It's easy to see that you enjoy what you do!

Gosh Tony <blush>. Thank you for the kind words. I draw tremendous
satisfaction from assisting those in the monitoring hobby. A hobby I and
many other members of our Department share.

Stay Safe!

Brian Humphrey




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From: [e-mail] (F. Barry Mulligan)
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Subject: Re: Diagnosis Murder TV Show on location...
Date: 1 Nov 1996 03:21:06 GMT
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[e-mail] (Greg Griffin) asked:
> is there a comprehensive list of ITINERANT frequencies available?
Don't know about 'comprehensive', but -

From the  FAF - Frequently Asked Frequencies
      on  ftp://oak.oakland.edu
      as  /pub/hamradio/docs/misc/scanner.faf


Broadcast Remote Pickup                                     [74.401]
             25.87  -  26.45   @  20/40 kHz intervals
            152.87  - 153.35   @  60 kHz intervals
            161.64  - 161.76   @  30 kHz intervals
            450.050 - 450.850  }  @  50/100 kHz
            455.050 - 455.850  }     intervals

Film and Video Production                                   [90.69 ]
            152.87   152.90   152.93   152.96   152.99   153.02
            173.225  173.275  173.325  173.375

Wireless mikes                                              [90.265]
            169.445  169.505  170.245  170.305
            171.045  171.105  171.845  171.905
            plus unused FM/TV broadcast channels            [74.802]


Dot Frequencies

    Dot color                          Other
      Red       151.625  itinerant       "J" Dot      467.7625
      Purple    151.955                  "K" Dot      467.8125
      Blue      154.570                  Silver Star  467.850
      Green     154.600                  Gold Star    467.875
      White     462.575  GMRS            Red Star     467.900
      Black     462.625  GMRS            Blue Star    467.925
      Orange    462.675  GMRS
      Brown     464.500  itinerant
      Yellow    464.550  itinerant

        "Dot" stickers are used by the manufacturer or distributer to
    indicate the frequency of otherwise identical transceivers. They
    are often found in rental inventories and on construction sites.
        Additional itinerant frequencies include 27.49, 35.04, 43.04,
    151.505, 158.400, 469.500 and 469.550 MHz.


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From: [e-mail] (NYO41ed)
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Subject: Re: Deadbeat Publishers
Date: 31 Oct 1996 22:21:45 -0500
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Malaxander has always been anti- publisher goin back to his  days on AOL.


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From: [e-mail] (gunner)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: AOR 8000 and Broadcast Band?
Date: Fri, 01 Nov 1996 03:53:24 GMT
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I think it is a valid argument, though.  If you drive a $30,000
four-wheeler, then you should be able to cruise it on the street; if
you buy a $5000 computer, you should be able to do simple text-based
word processing; and if you buy a $600.00 scanner, you sure as hell
should be able to listen to AM radio on the damn thing.

--my only complaint regarding my AOR 8000

Doug



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From: [e-mail]
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Subject: Scanner te koop gevraagd!!
Date: Thu, 31 Oct 1996 19:55:40 -0800
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Ik ben voor een vriend van mij op zoek naar een scanner.
Hij is op zoek naar een scanner die de frequenties aan kan zonder hiaten.
Zijn voorkeur gaat uit naar een AOR of een Yupiteru.
Reacties SVP alleen per E-mail.
Alvast bedankt.

[e-mail]





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From: Aaron <A.SCHREIBER-COMPETATIVE.SHOOTER>
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Subject: Re: Frequency Counter Help Please
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I have a opto M1.  I love the thing and it works great.  Now I am buying
additional things for it like antenna's, filters, ect....
I had a Radio Shack one for a few days before I returned it.  It doesn't
have the good, and valuable, filter and capture features of some of the
Opto models.  Check out Opto's homepage at www.optoelectronics.com



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From: [e-mail] (Steve Work)
Subject: Re: Is the AR8000 all its cracked up to be ???
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Daniel Ayers ([e-mail]) wrote:

: My previous post on the matter was a bit TIC, but one does wonder what is
: going on.  It seems that the AR8000 is capable of receiving below 500kHz
: (contrary to the manufacturer's specifications), but I speculated that its
: performance is poor/buggy so AOR decided to start the "official"
: coverage at 500kHz.

I can say for sure that wide FM starts working poorly below 2Mhz and is
really bad below 1Mhz.  I'm sure it's totally worthless below 500Khz.


                                WELCOME TO
                                 THE WORLD
                                  OF AR8000
                                   RECEIVER



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From: [e-mail] (Steve Work)
Subject: Re: OJ chase?
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kEN Colburn ([e-mail]) wrote:
: Kinda late but i figger SOMEONE in LA must have monitored what when on in
: the oj chase. Details?
: --

The cops were listening in on his cellphone calls, for sure.


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From: [e-mail] (Evan Platt)
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Try department (minus the S) everything else is OK.

[e-mail] wrote:

>>     Access: http://www.ci.la.ca.us/departments/lafd/index.html
>Thanks for the reply.  I tried the URL but the server informed me that
>it was an invalid address (error 404).  Is this the correct URL (no typeos
>or such)?  If so, how do I contact Brian Humphries?


From [e-mail] Thu Nov 07 21:20:38 1996
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From: [e-mail](Robert Harris )
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Subject: scanner listeners on IRC
Date: 1 Nov 1996 04:27:03 GMT
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I am an avid user of IRC, I have hunted and searched for channels
dedicated to scanning on IRC, but have found none.  What are they, if
any, and on what network?

Robert Harris
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