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From [e-mail] Thu Sep 05 21:29:00 1996
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From: "K. McIntyre" <bux110>
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Subject: Re: "Attention Police Scanner Fans"
Date: 4 Sep 1996 15:14:09 GMT
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Hi i am a protection officer who spends approximately 16 hours per day
listening to police transmissions . How can i help?



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From: [e-mail] (Going Broke)
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"K. McIntyre" <bux110> wrote:
>
>Hi i am a protection officer who spends approximately 16 hours per day
>listening to police transmissions . How can i help?
>

Well, you didn't say which state you are from, but most of us want the
frequencies used for any given area.  I personnally like to listen to the
fire dept., but also listen to anything else given the chance.
Thanks for any info you can provide the group.

Larry

-
  GOING BROKE  [e-mail]




From [e-mail] Thu Sep 05 21:29:02 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Edwin Teh, 9V1ZY)
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Subject: ### Motorola AP50 - Looking for Mods
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Does anyone have any mods for the Motorola AP50 (Standard/Compact).
Please email them to me at [e-mail]
Thanks.

73 de 9V1ZY

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From [e-mail] Thu Sep 05 21:29:03 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Jeff)
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Subject: Re: ### Motorola AP50 - Looking for Mods
Date: Mon, 02 Sep 96 21:03:53 GMT
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In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Sc
ott Manthe) wrote:
>In article <50b4lg$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (John Amdor
>III) wrote:
>
>>Hi Edwin...
>>
>>Haven't been to IRC #hamradio for a while...how are you?
>>
>>What is an AP-50?  Is it a Motorola ham rig?
>>
>>John  KD6MXL
>>[e-mail]
>
>It's a Motorola ham rig. Unavailable in the US, unfortunately, although I
>may have a few pretty soon to get rid of. I thought the thing was
>broadbanded, so I wonder what mods he needs...
>
Correction the Motorola HAM rig is avalable in US, .Royal Communication in CA
is SOLE DIST.

I have personaly had a DEMO unit at our store we are in the process of
deciding if we want to sell and stock them.

AP-50  however ROYAL has decide to stock only the LARGER of the two size HT.

Jeff
Ham Station USA.
>>[e-mail] (Edwin Teh, 9V1ZY) wrote:
>>
>>>Does anyone have any mods for the Motorola AP50 (Standard/Compact).
>>>Please email them to me at [e-mail]
>>>Thanks.
>>
>>>73 de 9V1ZY
>>
>>>--
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>>
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>>>           the evidence of things not seen. [Heb 11:1]
>>
>>>             As Email can be altered electronically,
>>>     the integrity of this communication is not guaranteed.
>
>Scott A. Manthe
> E-MAIL: [e-mail]
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From [e-mail] Thu Sep 05 21:29:04 1996
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From: Sparky J. Morehouse <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: ***TWO SCANNERS ON ONE ANTENNA HOOKUP???
Date: 4 Sep 1996 20:12:19 GMT
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In note <32200479.81800519@192.188.72.19>, [e-mail] (Bill Cheek) writes:

>[e-mail] ([e-mail]) wrote:
>
>>      I am wanting to share two scanners on one antenna lead.
>
>You bet.  An economical approach to getting the most for the least.
>
>> Does anyone make a device that would accomplish this?
>
>Every Radio Shack store in the world has a choice or two,  So does
>most any TV or video specialty store.  The device you want is called a
>"splitter".....and it's far more than just a "tee" connector, though
>in effect, that's what it is.  A splitter is designed to minimize
>losses from the splitting process.
>
>>For the record I have a Pro-2035 and a Pro-2006.
>
>It doesn't matter WHAT you use, though............
>
>> Is there a down side to stacking the units one on top of the other???
>
>Yes, two at least.
>
>A splitter does exactly that......sends half the power received by the
>antenna to one receiver, and half to the other.  You're looking at a
>minimum of  3-dB splitting loss relative to one receiver and one
>antenna.
>
>Two scanners in close proximity can feed each other their PLL and L.O.
>products to create a grand profusion of "birdies" and other
>interfering signals.  A  physical separation is advisable.
>
>Rgds,
>
>Bill

What Bill sez about stacking and the interference is true, but, not
insurmountable.

The same porblem can also happen when stacking two computer displays.
Sheilding *might* be helpful; physical seperation may not always be possible.
The first thing I'd try is a piece of metel connected to a good ground BETWEEN

the radios. The next level might be to use metal boxes, such as a tin bread
box; connect it to a good ground, and put the desktop radio in it, the other
on top. Caveat: interference could, in theory, be transmitted via the antenna
connection itself, depending in circuitry.

The splitter Bill mentions is a PASSIVE device. An antenna amplifier can make
up for this loss; I'd recommend an adjustable output model. There are models
that have multiple output ports. Bandpass is an issue here.

The common inline coax type of antenna amplifier sold by Radio Shack is 10 db
of amplification, and is mounted up at the antenna, with a power supply module

that plugs in a wall outlet. The bandpass goes up to 950 mhz. Before you shop
for an amplifier, determine what freqs are important to you, and then match
the amp to the freqs desired. Caveat: Antenna amplifiers CAN do too good of a
job, amplifying pager signals, harmonics created by frequency mixing, and damn

near everything. That's why I suggest a variable output type so you can dial
in the ammount of amplification desired, or whatever works best for you. The
last thing you want is the type that has the amplifier at the radio
itself...it'll also amplify NOISE as well as signal.

Good luck,>

Sparky

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FROM: Sparky J. Morehouse          "in the Wine Country of California"
                        HAM:  KE6VGA
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From [e-mail] Thu Sep 05 21:29:05 1996
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From: "Trevor Reiten" <[e-mail]>
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[e-mail] wrote in article <50kfoa$[e-mail]>...
> I hate to ask this old question, but I lost my list of the 25 47/49mhz
> cordless-phone freqs and need to re-program my scanner. Thanks for your
> tolerance.
>
> Jim
>
>
>
Jim...  checkout http://www.li.net/~j4dice/genfreq.html

Trev


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I hate to ask this old question, but I lost my list of the 25 47/49mhz
cordless-phone freqs and need to re-program my scanner. Thanks for your
tolerance.

Jim




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From: [e-mail] (David Horak)
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Subject: Re: 25 Cordless-phone Frequencies?
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In <50kfoa$[e-mail]> [e-mail] writes:

>I hate to ask this old question, but I lost my list of the 25 47/49mhz
>cordless-phone freqs and need to re-program my scanner. Thanks for your
>tolerance.

>Jim

*************** New 43-49MHz Cordless Phone Allocations *******************

NOTE: Channels 16 through 25 are identical to the old 10 channel system.

                BASE                            HANDSET
                ----                            -------

Channel 1       43.72                           48.76
Channel 2       43.74                           48.84
Channel 3       43.82                           48.86
Channel 4       43.84                           48.92
Channel 5       43.92                           49.00
Channel 6       43.96                           49.08
Channel 7       44.12                           49.10
Channel 8       44.16                           49.16
Channel 9       44.18                           49.20
Channel 10      44.20                           49.24
Channel 11      44.32                           49.28
Channel 12      44.36                           49.36
Channel 13      44.40                           49.40
Channel 14      44.46                           49.46
Channel 15      44.48                           49.50
Channel 16      46.61                           49.67
Channel 17      46.63                           49.845 #
Channel 18      46.67                           49.86  #
Channel 19      46.71                           49.77
Channel 20      46.73                           49.875 #
Channel 21      46.77                           49.83  #
Channel 22      46.83                           49.89  #
Channel 23      46.87                           49.93
Channel 24      46.93                           49.99
Channel 25      46.97                           49.97

# = 49.83-49.89 freqs commonly used for baby monitors.


David


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 05 21:29:08 1996
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From: Lou Cummings <[e-mail]>
Subject: 890XLT MODIFICATION
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Anyone with info on the simple modification to restore the blocked
frequency section of the Bearcat 890 XLT please send e-mail with mod.
Also have the AOR 8000 and would like to know the restoration mod for it,
too. Would be greatly appreciated. I know the AOR can be restored with
software, but I use it at my occupation and need it to be portable, so
the software restoration would be useless in my application. Thanks in
advance to any techno-wizards who might respond - 73s!

John KF4ANC
[e-mail]



From [e-mail] Thu Sep 05 21:29:10 1996
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Lou Cummings wrote:
>
> Anyone with info on the simple modification to restore the blocked
> frequency section of the Bearcat 890 XLT please send e-mail with mod.
> Also have the AOR 8000 and would like to know the restoration mod for it,
> too. Would be greatly appreciated. I know the AOR can be restored with
> software, but I use it at my occupation and need it to be portable, so
> the software restoration would be useless in my application. Thanks in
> advance to any techno-wizards who might respond - 73s!
>
> John KF4ANC
> [e-mail]

John, e-mail the date code on the back of the BC-890 to me.  As far as
the AR8000, once unblocked with software, it is permanently unblocked,
even without software control (as opposed to the OS-535 which needs the
unblock code from the software each time.)

Contact the Scancat Gold people at:

http://www.scancat.com/


for software and an interface.  Alternatively, Grove will do the mod for
you:

http://www.grove.net/


Good luck!
'73 de JIM


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From: [e-mail] (CCSys)
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Subject: Re: 9913 coax
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On Tue, 03 Sep 1996 07:34:54 -0400, Jim Finney <[e-mail]>
wrote:
>Does Radio Shack make a decent coax for these frequencies?

This reminds me of the following song-

                   I dun-no if its true
     but I have heard and it's been said...
              RA-DI-AX got its name
                           from
                 RADIo shack coAX

In a pinch I made a dummy load for 900 MHz from about 150' of Radio
Shack RG-8 coax.  It wasn't a perfect dummy load but it served the
purpose.

Why not go to the next hamfest and get some 1/2" heliax and some
connectors?  You might actually be able to receive what your antenna
"hears."  If the 7/8 LDF is cheap then so much the better!

Andrew
N2CBU


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From: Jim <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: 9913 coax
Date: Wed, 04 Sep 1996 08:00:57 -0700
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Jim Finney wrote:
 >
 > Bill Cheek wrote:
 > >
 > > "John.Mackey.KA0SSF" <[e-mail]> wrote:
 > >
 > > >9913 isn't much different in stiffness & is only slightly larger than
 > > >rg-8.  The coax to really go for is rg-213 & rg-214 as they are the only
 > > >ones that I am aware of that ARE NOT UV SENSISTIVE.  The others wear
 > > >down from UV sunlight after a year or two and become VERY lossy.  This
 > > >is typical of rg- 8, 58, 8x, and 9913.
 > >
 > > I have some 20-yr old Belden 8214 and 9913 still in service.  The UV
 > > problem, if there is one, is not a concern.  As for RG-213 and RG-214,
 > > both are very lossy at UHF and are quite unsuited for scanning.  RG-8
 > > and RG-58, of course, are also unsuited for scanning, but you got
 > > those right.
 > >
 > > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+
 > > | Bill Cheek                E-mail: [e-mail]  FidoNet: 1:202/731 |
 > > | COMMtronics Engineering   Compuserve:  74107,1176                    |
 > > | World Scanner Report      Voice Phone: [phone]:30pm-5:30pm  |
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 > > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+
 > Given that 9913 is the best coax to use, what is the next best?  My
 > interests are 400 and 800mHz.  Does Radio Shack make a decent coax
 > for these frequencies?
 >
 > Thanks for the input.
 >
 > Jim..

Jim, your next step up is to 1/2 inch 'Heliax' from 9913.

In our 'business' (a cellular operator, AT&T WS, in Dallas) we have used
and still use each of the following: 9913, 1/2", 7/8", 1 1/4" and
1 5/8" Heliax (in the RSA's).
We use the 9913 for low-budget installations at 800 MHz where we can acccept t
he
loss, i.e., we do link-budget calculations versus cost versus the predicted co
verage
area. We have used several hundred feet of 9913 where we could tolerate the lo
ss
(what: 8-10dB?). If we *think* need less loss we move up to 1/2" (on relativel
y
low-budget projects, i.e., a cell extender inside a retail store). Any permane
nt
installations we automatically specify 1/2" *if* it is sufficient - otherwise
we move up the size scale again. We buy 1/2" with a discount, I think it works
out to around a dollar a foot.

Regards, Jim


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Subject: Re: 9913 coax
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"Mark S. McDermott, P.E." <[e-mail]> wrote:

>I can go on, however I suggest a serious look at the LMR family of
>cable.

Can you give details of manufacturer and / or distributors?

Bill


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Jim Finney wrote:

> Given that 9913 is the best coax to use, what is the next best?  My
> interests are 400 and 800mHz.  Does Radio Shack make a decent coax
> for these frequencies?
>
> Thanks for the input.
>
> Jim..

Jim,

The last coax(RG-8) I bought at Radio Shack had a very poor shield.
Braid was uneven.

Ask yourself four questions.

How long a run of transmission line do you need?
What is the highest frequency you will be scanning?
What is the most loss you will accept?
How much money do you have?

You can spend $0.20 per foot for RG58 with 16 db loss per 100ft at
900mhz
or $18 per foot for 2-1/4" hardline with .55 dbloss per 100ft at 900mhz.

I use 170ft of 1-5/8" hardline at the house--salvaged from commercial
use. :-)
Some of my friends have gotten the tail ends of cable TV hardline rolls
and built matching transformers(75ohm).

You ask about the next best thing to 9913, my opinion is 9914. It has a
foam dielectric and is a few cents per foot cheaper. 1.5db greater loss
at 900mhz, though. Same connectors.

Another alternative is Times LMR-400. It uses 9913 connectors, costs 1/2
of 9913 and boasts 3.88db per 100ft loss-900mhz(9913 has 4.2db
loss/100ft). Available from Tessco(800-472-7373) for $.44 per foot.
Sounds great, but I've never tried it.
You could be brave and try the LMR-600. Cost is about the same as 9913.
2.5db loss/100ft at 900mhz. Cost of connectors is the catch(about $16
each).

Hope this was useful.

Mark Prescott
KE4LWP


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"John.Mackey.KA0SSF" <[e-mail]> wrote:


>9913 isn't much different in stiffness & is only slightly larger than
>rg-8.  The coax to really go for is rg-213 & rg-214 as they are the only
>ones that I am aware of that ARE NOT UV SENSISTIVE.  The others wear
>down from UV sunlight after a year or two and become VERY lossy.  This
>is typical of rg- 8, 58, 8x, and 9913.

I have some 20-yr old Belden 8214 and 9913 still in service.  The UV
problem, if there is one, is not a concern.  As for RG-213 and RG-214,
both are very lossy at UHF and are quite unsuited for scanning.  RG-8
and RG-58, of course, are also unsuited for scanning, but you got
those right.

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From: [e-mail] (Bill Cheek)
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Subject: Re: 9913 coax
Date: Tue, 03 Sep 1996 17:31:38 GMT
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Jim Finney <[e-mail]> wrote:

>Bill Cheek wrote:

>> I have some 20-yr old Belden 8214 and 9913 still in service.  The UV
>> problem, if there is one, is not a concern.  As for RG-213 and RG-214,
>> both are very lossy at UHF and are quite unsuited for scanning.  RG-8
>> and RG-58, of course, are also unsuited for scanning, but you got
>> those right.

>Given that 9913 is the best coax to use, what is the next best?  My
>interests are 400 and 800mHz.  Does Radio Shack make a decent coax
>for these frequencies?

Loss in coax always goes up as frequency goes up.    Fer
instance, you can use RG-58 for 100-kHz through 10 MHz with
little or no loss.  But you lose everything in RG-58 at UHF
frequencies.

Radio Shack has a passably decent coax for casual-to-serious
scannists who attend to details.  RG-6 Satellite Cable!
It's decent stuff.  Flexible.  Acceptable loss figures,
provided you use the gold-plated F connectors, and install
them correctly.  And the RG-6 is cheap enough to not send
you to the Salvation Army Soup Kitchen.

Belden 8214 is about the next best to 9913, but between the
cost and the rigidity and the size, it makes no sense to opt
for 8214 in lieu of 9913.  So the best downward compromise
is RG-6 satellite cable, IMHO.

Rgds,

Bill

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From [e-mail] Thu Sep 05 21:29:23 1996
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From: "Mark S. McDermott, P.E." <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: 9913 coax
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9913 WAS some of the best low loss cable at a reasonable price a few
years back. However it was surpassed by Times Microwave LMR-400 a couple
years ago. 9913 by its mechanical features has a few serious flaws that
surface with age, the most obvious is moisture accumualtion. This
happens from the heating and cooling of the cable, the dialectric is
partialy air, recalling basic science you will remember water is a part
of. Over the years you WILL have water accumulation, no matter how much
tape or goo or anything else you try less pressurization of the cable.
Other mechanical problems are in the bending of the cable, the loss
factors are based on STRAIGHT cable not one with bends.
I can go on, however I suggest a serious look at the LMR family of
cable.
Airtouch Cellular along with other carriers have begun to use LMR style
cable for monoploles and other stuctures that require tight turning
radius with loss levels similiar to Andrew LDF6 or LDF7.


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[e-mail] (CCSys) wrote:
>Why not go to the next hamfest and get some 1/2" heliax and some
>connectors?  You might actually be able to receive what your antenna
>"hears."  If the 7/8 LDF is cheap then so much the better!

>Andrew
>N2CBU

I agree...it is amazing how much money and effort people will put into
a receiver and antenna, only to connect it all with shitty coax that
some dolt at Radio Shack sold them.

I finally decided to put 1/2 inch hardline on one of my setups and was
absolutely amazed at the stuff I was hearing.  I was picking up 800
MHz trunked systems from 50 to 75 miles away.  My old range with RG-8
was about 20-25 miles.

Yes, the hardline is more expensive and the connectors are outrageous,
but it is well worth it.  I suggest everyone look into it if possible
and practical.



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Bob Witte <[e-mail]> wrote in article
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> [e-mail] wrote:
>
> : Yes, the hardline is more expensive and the connectors are outrageous,
> : but it is well worth it.  I suggest everyone look into it if possible
> : and practical.
>
>   And if the cable length and frequency of interest warrant it.

Good point Bob. I have a number of uhf/vhf antennas here in the shack. I
use anything from
rg/58 on up.  I certainly can't see a person using hardline or 9913 if all
they want are their
local emergency services which are in close proximity to the receiver site.
I can listen to
my local police, fire and such with a coat hanger stuck in the back of my
receiver.  That
is why the scanner I use for that has nothing but a whip on it.

OTOH, if I am trying to hear/work a number of the Ham sats I certainly am
going to try and
reduce cable losses as much as possible. Same holds true when I am trying
to
catch stations far far away from here. Low loss coax and the antenna is as
high as possible.

Just my rambling opinion..............    Glenn








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From: [e-mail] (Mark S. Conway)
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131.550     be sure and open up the squelch.
I had the same setup, and it works great. Especially around 7:00 -
7:30pm during the air raid. (overseas traffic) .......

"M. J. Caruso" <[e-mail]> wrote:

>Have a PRO-2006 scanner connected to an M-400 decoder. Looking to find
>the ACARS frequencies in the Syracuse-Rochester (NY) areas.  MY antenna
>is about 75' so should have little trouble receiving anything.  Getting
>tired of just the digital pager traffic (very boring).  On the ham side,
>I have a KAM+, and enjoy the digital modes alot.  Maybe on the VHF/UHF
>side things just aren't that exciting?


>Any info. or suggestions appreciated.

>Mark, N2WTD




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From: [e-mail] (Clint Bradford)
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I find it quite amusing that all the "anti-Bill Cheek" sentiment here is
written by:

1. illiterates;
2. folks who like to hide their true EMail addresses; and/or
3. folks who send private EMail to those who have positive, first-hand
   experiences with Bill Cheek - threatening bodily harm (invalid
   addresses, of course).

Sounds/feels like petty, immature jealousy. Sure reads like it.

-Clint Bradford
 ATTENTION to Details


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VEGGIEPETA <[e-mail]> wrote in article
<50a8m9$[e-mail]>...
> I have an all band base station scanner antenna [Radio-Shack-20-176A].
> Anyone had experience with this?  I am now using a magnetic mounted cb
> antenna mounted to my gutter.  Will the scanner antenna improve reception
> mounted to gable?Thanx.
>
Is the antenna you are talking about a base or mobile antenna? (I don't
have the RS Catalog so I don't know).

On the assumption that it is a base antenna...
I have a RS All band base antenna (108-1300Mhz) monted from my ceiling and
it works great..IF you are using a CB antenna for your scanner change to a
scanner antenna this will improve reception in bands outside the 11 and 10
Meter area.
.
At one point I was using a 800Mhz Cordless phone antenna but lost lots of
Transmissions on VHF (148-174)  UHF (406-512).  After switching to scanner
antenna my reception improved on the bands mentioned above but decayed a
little on the 800Mhz band.
.
Give the scanner antenna a try...


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Subject: Antenna for scanners: OCFD
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This article/file is for the benefit of all.

(c) 1996 <All Rights Reserved>
Bill Cheek-COMMtronics Engineering

This article is for personal use only and may NOT be
placed on a CD-ROM nor any other media that
conveys, stores, or transports for any monetary
cost, without expressed permission of the author.
This article can only be given away, absolutely free
of charge.

=====================================================

Home-Made Off-Center-Fed-Dipole Scanner Antenna
                                      - By Bill Cheek

You need:

Item
No.
1    TV Matching Transformer (300-ohm to 75-ohm)
      RS #15-1140, -1143, -1230, -1253
2    RG-6 Coax (You decide the length)
      RS #278-1316, -1317, -1318
3    Gold Type F male connectors  on each end of the RG-6
      RS #278-225
4    Adapter, female Type F-to-male BNC
      RS #278-251
5    Wire, copper tubing, aluminum tubing, etc;  2 sections
      or pcs.   5a is 48" long   5b is 18" long



  |
  |
  |
  | 5a
  |
  |
  |
  |                                       __________
  |    _____  3        2            3  4 |          |
F o---| 1   |XXX===================XXXYYY| Scanner  |
F o---|_____|XXX===================XXXYYY|__________|
  |
  |    Notes:  5a and 5b must not touch at Feedpoints (F)
  |            All items are available at Radio SHack.
  | 5b
  |

Install it so it looks pretty much as shown, with the wires or tubing
going straight up and down.  The short end can be on top or bottom, as
shown.   Can be taped to a window or a wall.  Best kept away from
metal, though, especially anything its size or larger.

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From [e-mail] Thu Sep 05 21:29:34 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Bill Cheek)
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Subject: Re: Antenna Grounding
Date: Mon, 02 Sep 1996 19:06:42 GMT
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[e-mail] (Michael Cunningham) wrote:

>I have a question concerning the grounding of an antenna.
>
>Currently I have a Rohn free-standing tower with two large TV
>antennas on top of it. The tower is grounded as well as the coax
>and the rotator cable.
>
>What I'm going to do is use a side-mount to put up a Diamond D-130J
>scanner antenna. I will be using Belden 9913 coax or a similar type.
>
>The question is, Do I need to ground the 9913 or will the scanner antenna
>be protected because it will be mounted below the TV antennas and because
>the tower is grounded?

Let's put it this way.....20-yrs ago I put up a 100-ft tower with all
sorts of antennas on it.  Several years later, I took it down and
found several of the Belden 8214 coax runs would not budge.  Following
the run up the tower, I found where the shields of the coax were
"welded" to the tower leg at many spots along its length.

Obviously, it had been hit by lightning a time or two and the pulses
travelling down the shields arced through the outer insulation to the
tower leg, thereby bonding the shield to the tower.  Fortunately, the
coax was not otherwise damaged, and my station never suffered any
harm.  I always was real hot and heavy on grounding, anyway.

Shortly thereafter, I learned that it is good egineering practice to
artificially bond coax shields to the tower at about 10-ft intervals
down the tower.  Commercial kits are available for this purpose, but I
always made my own thereafter, except for industrial sites, of course.

>It is my understanding that if lightning were to hit the tower it would
>take a path directly to the ground rod attached to the tower.

It will take a number of paths.  Even though the tower is well
grounded, and even though the coax may be grounded to the tower via
the antenna at the top and to earth at the station entry point, the
shield is not necessarily at the same potential of the tower along its
length.  Hence, a difference in potential of some magnitude develops
and arc-over can occur when lightning hits.  And it will, just because
the resistance, inductance, and distributed capacitance of the tower
legs and the coax shields will be different.  So voltages developed
across them will differ.  A 5kV difference in potential will arc
through most coax outer insulation.

>BTW, I've found the Belden flexible 9913 coax a little hard to find. I
>have seen coax called "CQ Flexi 4XL811A" being advertised as being the same
>as Belden flexible 9913. Has anybody used the CQ? Is it OK?

I don't know anything about that.  But since 9913 is more or less a
reference standard of quality, you should be cautious with all
pretenders and claimants of "equality"......like you're doing here.

Rgds,

Bill

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From [e-mail] Thu Sep 05 21:29:35 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Susan)
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looking for a good description of Uniden MR 8100 scanner

any info would be appreciated.

Thanks ,
Richard Reider


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 05 21:29:36 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Clint Bradford)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Anyone know about/have BC890XLT?
Date: Mon,  2 Sep 1996 09:00:00 GMT
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>>...BC890 XLT desk scanner. Anyone have any specs on it?

The modification to restore true "full coverage" is the simple movingof
a single surface-mount component from one pair of solder pads to another
pair.


[e-mail]
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In article <50ioop$[e-mail]>
           [e-mail] "Michael Cunningham" writes:

Hi Mike,

> I recently bought my first scanner, a BC3000XLT, and have found a
> couple of things in the manual that aren't explained clearly. This
> may help other first time owners.
>
> 1) Manual Programming (pages 10 and 11). The example frequency it shows
> to enter is 460.150. However if you try to enter"460150" it won't
> work. What you have to do is enter "460" then press the "SFT" key and
> then enter "150". You can also do this when entering upper and lower
> frequencies for a search.

The frequency used as an example is 460 *point/decimal* 15Mhz

The "SFT" key is the decimal point.

Just keying in 460150 could be 46.015MHz or 460.150Mhz (as in the example),
both of which are valid frequencies. You have to tell it where the "."
(point) is so you key in 460 "point" 15 then enter.

> 2) Unlocking All Channels after doing a search (page 31). While doing
> a search you may lock out several frequencies and then want to unlock
> all of them after the search. The manual says to stop the search by
> pressing the "SRC" key and then press "L/O" for 2 seconds. What I've
> found is that you need to press the "HLD" or "LMT" key to stop the search
> and then the "L/O" key for 2 seconds.

As you say you have to pressing the "HLD" key will stop the search.

Can't speak for the BC-3000XLT manual but the UBC-3000XLT manual I have just
looked in (uses the same examples and data) shows that you press "HLD" to
stop the search (Diagram top right of page 31) so I assume the BC-3000XLT is
a misprint, perhaps in time they will print a revised version.


> As I said this is my first scanner so please let me know if I am giving
> out bad information.

Hope you have fun.


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From [e-mail] Thu Sep 05 21:29:38 1996
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From: huckinsb <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Bearcat 300???
Date: 2 Sep 1996 13:50:11 GMT
Organization: Willow Tree
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I recently purchased some scanners and cbs at a sale. One scanner is a
Bearcat 300. It doesn't work well yet, however, I am wondering what this
old relic is cabable of. Can anyone tell me more about it?? It's a good
looking unit.

                                 ->bh



From [e-mail] Thu Sep 05 21:29:39 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Si Ballenger)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Bearcat 300???
Date: Tue, 03 Sep 1996 00:45:15 GMT
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huckinsb <[e-mail]> wrote:

>I recently purchased some scanners and cbs at a sale. One scanner is a
>Bearcat 300. It doesn't work well yet, however, I am wondering what this
>old relic is cabable of. Can anyone tell me more about it?? It's a good
>looking unit.

>                                 ->bh

Bob Parnass post some bearcat repair tips in the group from time to
time, which covers the BC300. Uniden will fix them for about $55. I've
got one that had to be fixed over the years, so I sent it to Uniden. I
use it as a "baseload" scanner (on all the time monitoring important
frequencies). A while back Andy Rooney (60 Min.) was doing a piece on
his "stuff" that didn't work, but he couldn't bring himself to toss out.
In the middle of the pile of "stuff" on his desk was a BC300!




From [e-mail] Thu Sep 05 21:29:40 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Claude Alan Cartee)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Bearcat 9000 & CTSS board...
Date: 04 Sep 1996 19:09:56 GMT
Organization: cisco Systems Inc., Menlo Park, CA, USA
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Can somone post the frequencies which are detected by the 9000's CTSS
board?

Does this board also allow the detection of CTSS?  Will it display the
values of CTSS tone being received?


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 05 21:29:40 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Douglas Peck)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Bearcat 9000XLT
Date: Thu, 05 Sep 1996 00:22:16 GMT
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I am thinking of purchasing the BC 9000XLT.  I have had some bad luck
with Bearcat scanners in the past, but I'm willing to give them
another try.  Any feed back would be appreciated.


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 05 21:29:41 1996
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From: John Bumgardner <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Bearcat BCT-7 BearTracker 800
Date: Tue, 03 Sep 1996 18:05:32 -0700
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still looking for a friend for any 800 mhz mods for this scanner.  Will
appreciate any response.  Thanks and 73  Pls email


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 05 21:29:42 1996
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From: bozo <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Bill Cheeks is an asshole
Date: Tue, 27 Aug 1996 21:07:15 -0700
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John--Mackey--KA0SSF wrote:
>
> Diback wrote:
>
> > To all Bill Cheek haters out there, Please stop posting to this group.
> > Bill Cheek has kindly devoted his life to making our lives better through
>
> What a load of shit.

What's next Bob Parnass hate mail??


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 05 21:29:43 1996
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Subject: Re: bincancel:10 large binaries:AR599:@@NCM
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]>
Date: Tue, 3 Sep 1996 16:11:12 GMT
From: [e-mail] (Richard E. Depew)
Followup-To: news.admin.net-abuse.misc
Organization: ARMM Services, Bincancel Division
Keywords: ARMM - Automated Retroactive Minimal Moderation
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Xref: news2.epix.net alt.retromod:1621 biz.general:75089 biz.jobs.offered:265231 comp.databases.ms-access:91548 comp.mail.eudora.ms-windows:11062 news.newusers.questions:262478 rec.autos.simulators:30367 rec.models.railroad:63194 rec.radio.scanner:55862 sci.math.symbolic:22546

Large binary posts do not belong in unmoderated discussion groups.

I run a program that searches for, and issues advisory cancels for,
large binaries in the akr, biz, comp, misc, news, rec, and sci
hierarchies.

I have issued 10 cancels for large binary files (average size 249,755
characters - total size 2,497,551 characters) posted to 9 different
unmoderated discussion groups in the biz, comp, news, rec, and sci
hierarchies as follows:
   2 comp.mail.eudora.ms-windows
   1 sci.math.symbolic
   1 rec.radio.scanner
   1 rec.models.railroad
   1 rec.autos.simulators
   1 news.newusers.questions
   1 comp.databases.ms-access
   1 biz.jobs.offered
   1 biz.general

This pointer is being posted to each affected group listed above.
Follow-ups are directed to news.admin.net-abuse.misc.

If you want to see exactly which file was deleted from a particular
group, read the full report in news.admin.net-abuse.announce.  The
full report can also be found in alt.nocem.misc and alt.retromod.
Look for AR599 in the subject, or, if your reader supports it, use
this <URL:news:[e-mail]>

The criteria used to search for this batch of large binaries were:
   NEWSGROUPS: Unmoderated akr, biz, comp, misc, news, rec, or sci
               (except for comp.binaries.apple2, comp.bugs.2bsd,
                and rec.games.bolo)
   BINARY: base64, binhex, uuencode, and xbtoa encoded files, etc.
   SIZE: > 100,000 characters [(size * (# of parts - .5)), if multi-part]

If you must post a binary to Usenet, please post it *only* to an
appropriate binaries newsgroup such as alt.binaries.misc, and do *not*
crosspost it to non-binaries groups.  Then, if you like, post something
in the appropriate discussion group telling people where to find the
binary in the binaries group (a pointer to the binary).  This will
permit news administrators and users to decide for themselves whether
to receive the binary files.

For more information about binary cancels, see the bincancel FAQ,
<URL:http://www.geocities.com/Paris/5886/binfaq.txt>.

Please direct public feedback to news.admin.net-abuse.misc and private
feedback to [e-mail].  In the interests of preventing
cross-posted flame wars, please honor the followup-to header and do
*not* cross-post your reply to multiple groups.  Thanks for your
cooperation.

Best wishes,
Dick
--
Richard E. Depew, Munroe Falls, OH    [e-mail] (home)
It's over, and can't be helped, and that's one consolation, as they
  always say in Turkey, when they cut the wrong man's head off''
  -- Charles Dickens, _The Pickwick Papers_


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Subject: Re: bincancel:31 large binaries:AR598:@@NCM
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]>
Date: Tue, 3 Sep 1996 02:11:28 GMT
From: [e-mail] (Richard E. Depew)
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Large binary posts do not belong in unmoderated discussion groups.

I run a program that searches for, and issues advisory cancels for,
large binaries in the akr, biz, comp, misc, news, rec, and sci
hierarchies.

I have issued 31 cancels for large binary files (average size 145,553
characters - total size 4,512,151 characters) posted to 12 different
unmoderated discussion groups in the comp, misc, news, and rec
hierarchies (with cross-posts into alt groups) as follows:
  16 news.newusers.questions
   3 rec.outdoors.fishing
   2 rec.sport.golf
   2 comp.periphs.scsi
   1 rec.radio.scanner
   1 rec.games.video.sony
   1 rec.games.video.nintendo
   1 rec.crafts.jewelry
   1 rec.bicycles.racing
   1 misc.invest.stocks
   1 comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.controls
   1 alt.binaries.pictures.erotic.centerfolds
        comp.fonts

The cancels in non-targeted groups are a consequence of the way
cross-posts work.  A cross-posted article has only one Message-ID.
When it is canceled from one group it is canceled from all groups.

This pointer is being posted to each affected group listed above.
Follow-ups are directed to news.admin.net-abuse.misc.

If you want to see exactly which file was deleted from a particular
group, read the full report in news.admin.net-abuse.announce.  The
full report can also be found in alt.nocem.misc and alt.retromod.
Look for AR598 in the subject, or, if your reader supports it, use
this <URL:news:[e-mail]>

The criteria used to search for this batch of large binaries were:
   NEWSGROUPS: Unmoderated akr, biz, comp, misc, news, rec, or sci
               (except for comp.binaries.apple2, comp.bugs.2bsd,
                and rec.games.bolo)
   BINARY: base64, binhex, uuencode, and xbtoa encoded files, etc.
   SIZE: > 100,000 characters [(size * (# of parts - .5)), if multi-part]

If you must post a binary to Usenet, please post it *only* to an
appropriate binaries newsgroup such as alt.binaries.misc, and do *not*
crosspost it to non-binaries groups.  Then, if you like, post something
in the appropriate discussion group telling people where to find the
binary in the binaries group (a pointer to the binary).  This will
permit news administrators and users to decide for themselves whether
to receive the binary files.

For more information about binary cancels, see the bincancel FAQ,
<URL:http://www.geocities.com/Paris/5886/binfaq.txt>.

Please direct public feedback to news.admin.net-abuse.misc and private
feedback to [e-mail].  In the interests of preventing
cross-posted flame wars, please honor the followup-to header and do
*not* cross-post your reply to multiple groups.  Thanks for your
cooperation.

Best wishes,
Dick
--
Richard E. Depew, Munroe Falls, OH    [e-mail] (home)
It's over, and can't be helped, and that's one consolation, as they
  always say in Turkey, when they cut the wrong man's head off''
  -- Charles Dickens, _The Pickwick Papers_


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 05 21:29:46 1996
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From: [e-mail]
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner,alt.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: CANCELLATION OF RCMA/USSN SUBSCRIPTION
Date: Sun, 01 Sep 1996 20:07:02 GMT
Organization: CIOE Corporation
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Temp Berdan <[e-mail]> wrote:
<<<snipped>>>
>> Effective immediately, cancel my RCMA/USSN subscription and remove me
>> from your mailing list.
>>
>> Temp Berdan
>> Santa Barbara, CA


Good for you.  As a consumer, one of the only ways to make your voice
heard is via your spending.

Does anyone else find it curious that USSN was able to...

- Maintain a web site and offer the use of their server to host SCAN-L
- Purchase the mailing list of RCMA
- Hire a lawyer to draft that ridiculous letter

...all the while they couldn't pay their writers?  Smells fishy to me!

My plan of attack is threefold...

- Don't purchase anything from USSN
- Don't purchase anything from anyone who advertises with USSN
- Don't purchase anything from anyone who allows USSN to advertise
with them

I urge others with similar feelings to consider similar actions in an
attempt to voice your opinion.





From [e-mail] Thu Sep 05 21:29:47 1996
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From: [e-mail] (NYO41ed)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: CANCELLATION OF RCMA/USSN SUBSCRIPTION
Date: 4 Sep 1996 00:54:04 -0400
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RE:<< Don't purchase anything from anyone who advertises with USSN>>


Sure, I want the money they owe me. But this strategy is just going hurt
more innocent people. Why take it out on them. Most of the advertisers are
hard working people trying to get by.


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From: [e-mail] (HH357)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Cell-Tracker,How does it work?
Date: 4 Sep 1996 13:56:22 -0400
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I would think that Damien Thorn Could help with this question, especially
if he finished his book on cell Phones like he said he would.

Well Damien?


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 05 21:29:49 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Joe Kubasha)
Subject: Re: Choices for Moderator
In-Reply-To: [e-mail]'s message of Sat, 31 Aug 1996 03:22:03 -0700
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Sender: [e-mail]
Nntp-Posting-Host: whqvax.picker.com
Organization: PICKER INTERNATIONAL
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In <[e-mail]> [e-mail] writes:

> Tim Payne wrote:
>
> > Here are the people that are seriously interested.  Perhaps we can keep th
is
> >
> > All of these people are serious about moderating.  I think we should choos
e 2
> > or 3 (or even all 4).  All 3 of the people seem genuinely sincere about
> > upholding the charter of the new group.
>
>
> You forgot two people, myself & Bill Cheek.  Bill nominated me & himself
> and we both really want to be the moderator.
>

Good!  It looks as if you two have finally come to an agreement!


Joe



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From [e-mail] Thu Sep 05 21:29:49 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Bill Cheek)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Choices for Moderator
Date: Wed, 04 Sep 1996 08:19:03 GMT
Organization: COMMtronics Engineering/World Scanner Report
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Message-ID: <322cd6f8.294198387@192.188.72.23>
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[e-mail] (Joe Kubasha) wrote:

>Good!  It looks as if you two have finally come to an agreement!

Yes.  John Mackey is my goooooooood buddy.   :-)




From [e-mail] Thu Sep 05 21:29:51 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Bill Cheek)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Choices for Moderator
Date: Wed, 04 Sep 1996 08:18:29 GMT
Organization: COMMtronics Engineering/World Scanner Report
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[e-mail] (Gus) wrote:

>[e-mail] (Bill Cheek) wrote:

>>What about choosing none?  What about just starting your own moderated
>>forum or even a moderated list?

>As I recall He was going to start a new group.  not change this ine

That is apparent now.  It wasn't then.  Nor did he bother to
address the question when it was posed.

Bill



From [e-mail] Thu Sep 05 21:29:51 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Bill Cheek)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Choices for Moderator
Date: Wed, 04 Sep 1996 08:18:48 GMT
Organization: COMMtronics Engineering/World Scanner Report
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[e-mail] (Gus) wrote:

>[e-mail] (Bill Cheek) wrote:
>
>>What about choosing none?  What about just starting your own moderated
>>forum or even a moderated list?

>>I am currently writing the proposal for the moderated group
>>rec.radio.scanner.moderated .  I am looking for someone to moderate this
>>  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>>group.  Please E-MAIL me if you would like to be moderator, or know someone
>>that would be a good choice.  I will compile the names and let the group vot
e
>>for their choice in a few days.
>>
>>Thanks for helping this group become even better!!
>

>this was the first post

Thank you.......thank you.......thank you!  You've put an
exclamation on my point !!!!!!!  You see, despite the fact
that he clearly stated, "rec.radio.scanner.moderated", he
embelished it at the end with "Thanks for helping *this*
group become even better!"

Makes it pretty clear to me that he was after THIS group.
He said so.  He said so very explicitly.  While I did not
focus on the keywords at the time of his post, the tone that
I took from it was succinct and not interpreted.  It was at
face value.

To make matters worse, he refused to discuss it or to answer
questions.  He appeared to want to hide behind e-mail.  The
whole scenario, as it unfolded, had questions and doubt
strewn throughout.

Bill Cheek
(Voicing his own opinions)


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 05 21:29:52 1996
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From: albert britton <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Democratic Convention Operation Center
Date: 1 Sep 1996 22:49:55 GMT
Organization: Northwestern University
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I had recently wrapped up some volunteer work in the Joint commcenter
for the Democratic National Convention (DNC) held at the United Center
in Chicago.  There may be other postings about the 800Mhz truncked
system contracted by Motorola for use by all the departments.  I was not
able to get into Motorola's command post where the trunking brains were
located so I don't know the full capability.  I do know that we were all
using the standard MTS2000 radios.  In the commcenter there were base
stations set up by the Chicago PD utilizing all the Citywide freqs
divided into use for demonstrators, traffic, inside and outside security
and the Zone 13 (460.450 PD districts 9,12).  Fire and EMS ops were
handled by a LT and Battalion chief on the Admin channel (154.220)  Il
State Police did not have a base set up.  Capitol Hill PD were operating
using protected mode Sabers but did not know the freqs.  It was
somewhere in the VHF hi-band (164-?).  Secret Service had an advance
team set up a six position repeater system and three operators in the
protected mode.  They had a separate Special Agent cross trained as the
"commo" (comms officer) who was field programming the Sabers thru two
laptops and a Motorola keyloader.  Operating freqs were not obtained but
there was nothing to hear anyways.  They were all very nice guys.  It
was pretty interesting seeing what goes into the preparation of such a
big event and if you get the chance take it in

--
albert britton
Northwestern University
[e-mail]




From [e-mail] Thu Sep 05 21:29:54 1996
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From: [e-mail](BAYCITVIDGRP)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Deployment of new NYC PD freqs?
Date: 3 Sep 1996 19:31:51 GMT
Organization: Netcom
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In <[e-mail]>
[e-mail] (Rick Prelinger) writes:
>
>In the new Scanner Master NYC guide, the new NYC PD frequency
allocations
>are listed.  Does anyone have authoritative information as to when
they
>will go on line?
>
>Rick Prelinger
>[e-mail]


     Is this 800 trunked system allocations?

     If this is the first time they have appeared locally
     in print it means that they have been allocated these
     channels for future use.

     The operateive phrase is "for future use"....

     All this means is, if it's 800's, is that they are in
     process of setting the system up, someday.

    San Fran just began installing their new Motorolla "state
    of the art" 800 system at a cost of around $31Million.
    The allocations were given to them over two years ago.
    A few more police agencies in the ARea have same...the
    channels have been allocated and are in the books.

    One Problem:  they have to find money to pay for the
    system....that is why it takes so long to get on-line and
    ready to install, which can take a year or two once the
    money flows....

    Then there is the mandatory 6 mos. "try it-you'll like it"
    scenario where the bugs are ridded from system....

    bill conduit
    the "etc" guy


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 05 21:29:54 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Rick Prelinger)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Deployment of new NYC PD freqs?
Date: Tue, 03 Sep 1996 13:28:26 -0400
Organization: PANIX Public Access Internet and Unix, NYC
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In the new Scanner Master NYC guide, the new NYC PD frequency allocations
are listed.  Does anyone have authoritative information as to when they
will go on line?

Rick Prelinger
[e-mail]


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 05 21:29:55 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Rick Prelinger)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Deployment of new NYC PD freqs?
Date: Wed, 04 Sep 1996 09:50:01 -0400
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In article <50i137$[e-mail]>,
[e-mail](BAYCITVIDGRP) wrote:

>      Is this 800 trunked system allocations?
>
>      If this is the first time they have appeared locally
>      in print it means that they have been allocated these
>      channels for future use.
>
>      The operateive phrase is "for future use"....
>
>      All this means is, if it's 800's, is that they are in
>      process of setting the system up, someday.
>


No, these are reallocations of UHF T-band frequencies and some new
channels in the 482-484 MHz area.

Anyone else have any ideas?

Rick Prelinger


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 05 21:29:56 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Dan Morgan)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: DIN size scanner/radio
Date: Sun, 01 Sep 1996 04:51:24 GMT
Organization: AT&T WorldNet Services
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On Tue, 02 Jul 1996 17:22:53 -0700, Al Jennings <[e-mail]>
wrote:
>Does anyone know of a decent wide band receiver/scanner similar in
>function ti the Icom R1/R100 or AR3000 that will fit into a DIN size
>opening on an automobile dashboard??
>
>Thanks
>
>Al Jennings
I know this response is a bit late but I just got the 1997 Radio Shack
catalog and on page 42 is the PRO-2046. The description is as follows:

"New Mobile 100-channel scanner with 800 Mhz and VHF-air band
PRO-2046. Great for travel-just touch buttons to explore preset VHF
police, weather, DOT, highway, and 800Mhz police/fire frequencies.
Also provides band search in 12 preset frequency ranges and
HyperSearch direct search-up to 300 steps per minute. During search,
data skip and 20 programmable search skip frequencies help prevent
lockups on undesired signals. Mounts under dash with included bracket
or in the "DIN-E" stereo opening in many vehicles(some dash adaptation
may be required). (TSP) 20-149............229.99

Frequency Coverage: 29-54, 108,174, 406-512, 806-823.9375,
851-868.9375, 896.1125-956Mhz. Power: 12VDC neg. gnd. or AC adapter
(not included) Jacks: external speaker, antenna(BNC), power. Size 1
15/16x7 1/16x7 3/8"."


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 05 21:29:57 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Clint Bradford)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: ESN no.'s where from????
Date: Wed,  4 Sep 1996 04:56:00 GMT
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Organization: ATTENTION to Details BBS - Mira Loma, CA
Distribution: world
References: <[e-mail]>
Lines: 4


>>Does anyone know where I can get ESN no.'s from?

Sure. From the legitimate labels placed on all your cellular equipment.


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 05 21:30:01 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Bill Cheek)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: FCC Trouble with CHEEKS
Date: Mon, 02 Sep 1996 07:17:31 GMT
Organization: COMMtronics Engineering/World Scanner Report
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[e-mail] (John.Mackey.KA0SSF) wrote:

>[e-mail] (Bob Whiston) wrote:

>>      Why should he have to `re-invent the wheel?' just because *you* and some ot
her
>>JACKASSES don't have the sense to come in out of the rain or to just go ahea
d
>>and get the appropriate copies of the referenced material.  Why don't *ALL*
of
>>you just shut up and give this whole thing a rest?

>We shouldn't have to pay him for the truth.

So pay someone else, then, dung-fer-brains.  It's no secret.  But if
it were a "criminal" matter as you uttered from behind that window
just under your belly button, then it would be a matter of public
record, and you could find out the easy way.  Free.  Since you can't
afford to pay.

The TRUTH about my interaction with the FCC is ancient history, and
more or less comprises a saga.....an epoch....that covers ten years,
and which has been documented into previously mentioned references.
It's much to detailed to offer here....and off topic, too.  So either
buy the references, or access public records for free.


>>       Bob Whiston
>>           AKA
>>        -HALFPINT-
>
>I see how you got the nickname "half-pint"

You're blind in one eye and can't see out of the other.  The funny
thing would be to watch your sorry trade-school, bed-pan-changing ass
say that to him...in person.

<giggle>




From [e-mail] Thu Sep 05 21:30:02 1996
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From: John-KA0SSF <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: FCC Trouble with CHEEKS
Date: Mon, 02 Sep 1996 21:12:07 -0500
Organization: myself
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Bill Cheek wrote:

> But.......but......but.......Johnnie-Boy, I do not feel it necessary
> to defend myself to lowly pissants.

A smart assed statement IS a defense mechanism.


> You just don't get it.

No, YOU are the one who does not understand.


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 05 21:30:03 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Bill Cheek)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: FCC Trouble with CHEEKS
Date: Tue, 03 Sep 1996 14:25:21 GMT
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John-KA0SSF <[e-mail]> wrote:

>Bill Cheek wrote:
>
>> But.......but......but.......Johnnie-Boy, I do not feel it necessary
>> to defend myself to lowly pissants.
>
>A smart assed statement IS a defense mechanism.

Kind of trips your trigger, doesn't it, Johnny?  Sticks in
your craw a little?

>> You just don't get it.
>
>No, YOU are the one who does not understand.

I understand yoy are a bedpan changer for a looney-tunes
ward.



From [e-mail] Thu Sep 05 21:30:04 1996
From: [e-mail] (Jay  )
Subject: Re: FCC Trouble with CHEEKS
Date: 3 Sep 96 04:43:28 -0700
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Because he's an author silly!!! He should get paid for what he
rights!!! <G> BTW Bill, if ya read this, I loved book 1 and 2, can't
wait to get 3!!!!


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 05 21:30:04 1996
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From: Anders Enqvist <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Frequences in Sweden - where to find it on the web?
Date: Thu, 05 Sep 1996 16:26:01 +0200
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Hi!

Where can I find a list of frequences for some nice stuff (police, taxi,
cellular ....) in Sweden on the web?

/Anders

(Please answer by e-mail)

 ******************************************************
 Anders Enqvist

 E-mail:    [e-mail]

 ******************************************************


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 05 21:30:05 1996
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From: [e-mail] (DIRTYHURRY)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: frequencies for Michigan Wanted
Date: 1 Sep 1996 03:49:28 -0400
Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364)
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     HI!

     I just got a scanner for my birthday today and would appreciate
anyone sending me information on frequencies & codes for my area  ( Grand
Rapids Michigan  )

                                                         Thanks Much!


[e-mail]


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 05 21:30:06 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Roland Stiner)
Date: 02 Sep 96 12:07:00
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D>     I just got a scanner for my birthday today and would appreciate
 >anyone sending me information on frequencies & codes for my area  ( Grand
 >Rapids Michigan  )

Best thing to do is to run to Radio Shack and get Police Call for your
area.  Everything's in there.

---
   OLX 1.53   -------------->    73, de NK2U    <----------------

--


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 05 21:30:07 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Tom Hlavac)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: FS:  Grundig Satellite 500, AOR 2500 full 800Mhz!!!, Opto FM interceptor (also covers 800 Mhz hehe)
Date: 3 Sep 1996 18:14:53 GMT
Organization: Island Internet Customer
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X-Newsreader: News Xpress Version 1.0 Beta #3

Selling above radios for best offer, or trade for military UHF AM band
transciver in working condition.  Motorola VHF Saber would be nice trade.

[e-mail]


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 05 21:30:08 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Douglas Alexander)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner,alt.radio.scanner
Subject: FS:  Pro-43
Date: 5 Sep 1996 09:44:58 GMT
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Xref: news2.epix.net rec.radio.scanner:55964 alt.radio.scanner:33005

Selling my Pro-43 scanner for $195.00, includes shipping.

   Continuous 800MHz mod, 30-88MHz mod., Improved Audio mod.

   Cigarette lighter adapter included.

   No manual

Can UPS C.O.D.

E-mail if interested.

Douglas.

--
[e-mail]
--

Douglas Alexander
Florida Power & Light
Turkey Point Nuclear Plant
Nuclear Operations Department

--
Pardon me,
I am from the 24th century,
and I'm heading back as soon as
Doc Brown fixes the Flux Capacitor!


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 05 21:30:09 1996
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From: [e-mail] (NYO41ed)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: FS: BC Carry Case
Date: 31 Aug 1996 23:13:45 -0400
Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364)
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NNTP-Posting-Host: newsbf02.mail.aol.com

I have an extra, brand new (*never used) leather carry case that fits the
Bearcat 50, 55, 60, 65, & 60-XLT-1. Ordered direct from Uniden it will
cost you $25+shipping, You can have it for $14 which includes 2 day
postage. Please e-mail me at :[e-mail]. Thanks


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 05 21:30:09 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Gary Ross)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: FS: New NiMH 'AA' Batteries
Date: Sun, 01 Sep 1996 15:27:54 -0652
Organization: Disorganized
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FS: New, VARTA brand, high capacity, 1100mAh, 1.2V, AA size NiMH (Nickel
Metal Hydride) rechargeable batteries. I have not seen higher capacity AA
batteries on the market. Sold in sets of four. $25/set including delivery
(USA). Email if you have questions.

Thanks,
Gary
--

Gary Ross
[e-mail]
[e-mail]




From [e-mail] Thu Sep 05 21:30:10 1996
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Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: FS: Pro 2022
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I have for sale a very clean Pro 2022 base/mobile receiver. It has 200
channels (10/20). It also has full celluar mod done and also a speed mod
for search and scan (replaced xtal oscillator). Has two new front knobs,
new feet, and new antenna from Tandy Natl Parts. Also comes with manual,
external speaker, and AC adapter. VL/A/VH/U/8. Also has very nicely
repainted case (gloss black, quality job).

$150.00 for everything   COD... I'll pay shipping

If you live in the SF Bay Area I'll drive half way..

e mail  [e-mail]

SSG Thomas Montgomery
[phone]  PDT


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 05 21:30:11 1996
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From: Tom Montgomery <[e-mail]>
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Subject: FS: RS PRO 2022
Date: Tue, 03 Sep 1996 14:23:37 -0700
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I have for sale a very clean Pro 2022 base/mobile receiver. It has 200
channels (10/20). It also has full celluar mod done and also a speed mod
for search and scan (replaced xtal oscillator). Has two new front knobs,
new feet, and new antenna from Tandy Natl Parts. Also comes with manual,
external speaker, and AC adapter. VL/A/VH/U/8. Also has very nicely
repainted case (gloss black, quality job).

$150.00 for everything   COD... I'll pay shipping

If you live in the SF Bay Area I'll drive half way..

e mail  [e-mail]

SSG Thomas Montgomery
[phone]  PDT


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 05 21:30:12 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Frank B.)
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Subject: FS: RS Pro-43
Date: Sun, 01 Sep 1996 18:55:56 GMT
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Forsale:

RS Pro-43 with Cell MOD.  Case has
scratches, but in excellent working condition.
Comes with rubber ducky and 6 rechargeable batteries.

===$185.00  Shipped.


Bearcat 2500XLT 400 channel handheld scanner with Cell MOD.
   Very good condition.
   Case, manual, AC adapter, original rubber ducky, and
   2 batteries(one very fresh, one not)
   25Mhz-550Mhz and 760Mhz-1300Mhz.
   400 channels.

===$220.00  Shipped .

Frank Bernardi  ([e-mail])
Oregon.



From [e-mail] Thu Sep 05 21:30:13 1996
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From: Bob Schwerdtman <[e-mail]>
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Subject: FS: UBC9000
Date: Sun, 01 Sep 1996 20:07:21 -0500
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European version of the popular BC9000
This one comes with full cellular right out of the box.
Also has tone board installed and comes with manuals accessories and
box. Mobile mounting bracket also included.
$500.00 shipped FED-EX COD USA only
BOB 847-356-5665
Or E-mail


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 05 21:30:14 1996
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From: [e-mail] (David Horak)
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Subject: Re: FS: Yupiteru MVT-7100
Date: 5 Sep 1996 15:21:12 -0500
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In <50l361$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Frank B.) writes:

>100Khz-550Mhz 760Mhz-1650Mhz   Full coverage

Huh?  My Yupi-MVT7100 does not have a gap between 550 and 760MHz.
It gets it ALL.

David


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From: Louis <[e-mail]>
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Subject: GREAT INTERNET SITE FOUND!!!!!!!
Date: Wed, 4 Sep 1996 06:44:27 -0400
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I found a great scanner web site! It is at
http://www.li.net/~j4dice/stateidx.html
It has ALL ALL ALL the frequencys for North Eastern USA and a few other
places!!!!






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From: [e-mail] (Roland Stiner)
Date: 02 Sep 96 16:45:00
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Can someone tell me "typically" which frequency the harbor master uses
when he's on a cruse ship directing the tug boats?  I have seen the
harbor master on the QE2 in NY harbor but could not find the frequency
(he was talking!)
---
   OLX 1.53   -------------->    73, de NK2U    <----------------
--


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 05 21:30:17 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Bill Cheek)
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Subject: Re: Help with Pro 34 mods
Date: Tue, 03 Sep 1996 17:18:20 GMT
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[e-mail] () wrote:

>My buddy brought to me a Pro 34 scanner for mods, which I did. This opened
>up the 800Mhz band nicely but in the process lost the 30-54Mhz band.  In
>its place there is a 66-88Mhz band or something like that.  Is there a mod
>that keeps the low band while getting all of the 800Mhz?  The mod I
>performed was to move diode D11 to location D9.  Thanks Trevor

Bingo!  You figured it out already.  Wrong diode.  And you
don't move ANY.  Just clip or remove D-11.  Don't do
anything else to the remaining diodes or empty spots.

Rgds,

Bill

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Subject: Re: HELP: Antenna Tuner Design Needed
Date: Tue, 03 Sep 1996 18:19:50 GMT
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Michael Neidich <[e-mail]> wrote:

>Need a schematic/parts list to build a receiving antenna
>tuner/preselector 10-25 MHz, mostly to reject interfering out of band
>signals.  Point me in the right direction if there is a good commercial
>unit, please.
>Mike
MFJ-956 is $39.99.  One year unconditional money back warranty.  Comes
with a schematic.  By the time you add up the cost of the box, the
knobs, the switch, the fixed inductors, the variable capacitor, and
the 2 ea. SO-239 connectors, you may decide to keep it.
dr
Dave Rickmers            I'd wake up and
[e-mail]   there'd be nothing...



From [e-mail] Thu Sep 05 21:30:21 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Hugh Duff)
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Subject: Re: How do Images get made?
Date: Tue, 03 Sep 1996 16:15:04 GMT
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>[e-mail] (Claude Alan Cartee) wrote:

>>I was trying to figure out how images are created inside a scanner.  I
-------clip----------------


[e-mail] (Bill Cheek) wrote:


(a pretty decent description)
--------clip-------------------
>Cool.  So that output section contains a bandpass filter centered at
>10.7 MHz and is say 100 KHz wide.  That means the first three freqs
>get rejected because they are out of the passband, see?  But all ain't
>cool.  Let's see why.
>Suppose another RF signal besides 850.000 MHz was present,
>say 871.400 MHz.
>Ok, 871.400 also mixes with the L.O. of 860.700 MHz to result in the
>following four outputs:
>1.  871.400 MHz
>2.  860.700 MHz
>3. 1732.100 MHz
>4.   10.700 MHz

>Yikes!  Your receiver is tuned to 850.000 MHz but it can receive
>871.400 MHz just as well!  That 871.400 is an image frequency!  You
>are tuned to 850.000 so 871.400 should not be detectable, but it is,
>thanks to the 10.7 MHz of signal #1 being indistinguishable from the
>10.7 MHz resultant of signal #2.
>Triple conversion and a careful selection of L.O. fequencies renders
>image frequencies non-existent for all practical purposes.  But triple
>conversion is found only in the better receivers since it costs more,
>and the way the scanner bands of interest are allocated, image
>interference isn't really much of a problem for dual conversion
>scanners except up in the 800 MHz regions.
>Image interference IS a problem for continuous coverage receivers, and
>even in poorly designed triple conversion units where the L.O.
>frequencies aren't carefully selected by the designer.


Beyond putting thought into the strategic placement of local
oscillator and IF frequencies during the design stages,
you can't do much about the location of the mirror image 2 x I.F.
regardless of what frequency it is.

So what CAN be done ?

Quality radio equipment designers add tracking notch filters in the
front-end tuned to the mirror image frequency (ie frequency + twice
the IF...21.4 MHz)  to attenuate the offending signal 60-70 db down or
better.


The other thing to note is that the  IF image (opposite injection
frequency) is used to our advantage in many scanner designs since the
mixer sum is used for one band and the difference for another using
the same local oscillator.   ie..PRO-2004/5/6.
So you don't necessarily want to permanently design in a high or
lowpass filter (depending on whether low or highside injection is
used).

Hugh Duff  VA3TO  Toronto






From [e-mail] Thu Sep 05 21:30:22 1996
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From: "Anthony A. Andrianos" <[e-mail]>
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Subject: IC R100 need mods
Date: Mon, 02 Sep 1996 19:18:42 -0700
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Hello Anybody,

         I need directions to a site or an idea for mods to an Icom R100
communications reciever.  I can not seem to find any on any of the mod
files (qrz,oak,etc) can you help me ?  Thank you Anthony A. Andrianos
[e-mail]


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 05 21:30:23 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Bob)
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Subject: Re: Icom  IC-R7100 anyone?
Date: Thu, 05 Sep 1996 21:40:08 GMT
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Hoi Bart,

[e-mail] (Bart Wessel) wrote:

>Is there anyone who has the IC-R7100 who can tell me about how it performs in
>practice? Things like selectivity, strong-signal behaviour and such are hard
to
>read from a leaflet.

Even voor de zekerheid: weet je dat de opvolger van de R7100, de
R8500, er al is?

Groeten,

  Bob



From [e-mail] Thu Sep 05 21:30:24 1996
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From: [e-mail](George L. Vetterle)
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Subject: RE: John Mackey's Eyelids & Eyelashes
Date: 3 Sep 1996 10:13:19 GMT
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That's got to be the damndest thing I've ever heard of.
What do you suppose happens when he rubs his eyes?




--
George L. Vetterle
[e-mail]

"Badges?  We ain't got no badges!  We don't need no badges!
I don't have to show you any stinking badges!" -Alfonso Bedoya
(Gold Hat), THE TREASURE OF THE SIERRA MADRE, WB (1948)


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 05 21:30:25 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Bill Cheek)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: John Mackey's Eyelids & Eyelashes
Date: Tue, 03 Sep 1996 17:24:22 GMT
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[e-mail](George L. Vetterle) wrote:

>That's got to be the damndest thing I've ever heard of.

No kidding, man!  It's downright wild!  Wouldn'ta believed
it 'cept for the big writeups in the medical journals.

>What do you suppose happens when he rubs his eyes?

Oh garsh, I dunno.....been wondering that meself, but I
would venture the guess that he gets some jollies of one
sort or another.

:-))



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From: [e-mail] (Bill Cheek)
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Subject: Re: John Mackey's Postnasal Drip
Date: Sun, 01 Sep 1996 00:26:36 GMT
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[e-mail] (Malex007) wrote:

>Give it a rest.

I did.

But he won't.

So I'm gonna thump 'im.

:-))



From [e-mail] Thu Sep 05 21:30:27 1996
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From: "John.Mackey.KA0SSF" <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: John Mackey's Postnasal Drip
Date: Sun, 01 Sep 1996 21:28:35 -0500
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Bill Cheek wrote:

> "engineer".....oh yes, I am and quite recognized as such by many
> professional societies and organizations.

Really, by who or whom????


> The thing that sticks in your craw like a dog gagging on chicken bones
> is that I don't need or desire to spout any "credentials" to the likes
> of you and Duff.  Why should I?  Who the hell are YOU two?  Two very

Then why do you claim to have degrees, FCC license, & be an "engineer"
every chance you get???


> Do you show off your credentials to pissants?  Of course not, and
> that's exactly why I don't bother citing mine to you and Duff.  Now
> anything who matters knows.  And that is plenty good enough for me.
> You and Duff matter about as much as the village idiot flea on a
> junkyard dog.  If I gave you my credentials, would it make you LIKE
> AND ADMIRE ME more?   Whooooooooooey, thanks, but no thanks, I'll pass
> this time.  I don't need any admiration from you and HIM.

You only say this AFTER we questioned your integrity.


> Keep it up, John Mackey, and I will tell the good people around here
> the story of how you were born without any eyelids and what the
> doctors did to make you look halfway natural.

Yea, right,  then where was I born.  Psst-It wasn't Iowa or Oregon.
Right, like you know anything.  You are just lying, again.  (sigh)

Bill, it's to bad you can't deal with life honestly.


> Bill Cheek
> Scannist Extraordinaire

hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha


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From: [e-mail] (Harold G. Peach, Jr.)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Kentucky Scanner Law
Date: Sun, 01 Sep 1996 01:56:15 GMT
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"Robert H. Eisner" <[e-mail]> wrote:

>Warren Whitby III wrote:
>>
>> I am going to be traveling to Kentucky in a couple of months for a
>> weekend.  I know about their draconian scanner laws and I was wondering
>> how they apply to a resident of another state (i.e., me) where scanners
>> and extended rx 2m/70cm radios are legal?
>>
>> I would rather not have to remove my permanenly installed scanner that is
>> buried in my dash for a day and a half visit.

>The September issue of Monitoring Times has an interesting story about
>scanners in Kentucky on page 6.  It's titled "Abandon all radios, ye who
>enter here...".

>Bob

A copy of the law is available at:

http://www.kiprc.uky.edu/kyscan/disclaim/krs43257.htm



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I've heard the Simi Valley PD doing similar training. Once I heard a
call
on a tac channel that said somthing about a woman screaming and a guy
with
a gun in the area. The funny thing about it was that the address they
were
dispatched to was the address to the police station :)

Larry Levy wrote:
>
> [e-mail] (HH357) wrote:
>
> >Some kind of disturbance occured last Sunday, outside of Dodger stadium at
> >about 2 in the afternoon as I recall.   Some supervisor (W unit?) came on
> >the air and wanted dozens of units, with helmets, batons and shotguns to
> >amass at an intersection outside the park.  It was all very exciting to
> >listen to for about a half hour, just him Frantically requesting help for
> >"only 40 minutes or so.."
                        cheers
>
> What you were most likely hearing was a training drill for civil
> disturbance responses that was held in the parking lot at Dodger
> Stadium.
>
> The LAPD training Division has used the Dodger's parking lots many
> times in the past for training purposes. Mostly, they use it for
> felony traffic stop training, but they have  had an in-service
> training program for tactics dealing with civil disturbances sine the
> 1992 riots.


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From [e-mail] Thu Sep 05 21:30:32 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Endel)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: LAPD Strike Teams ?
Date: 4 Sep 1996 08:27:01 -0700
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There's a big dirt lot behind a hill between the LA Police Academy and
Dodger Stadium, just a little to the east off Academy Road.  There's a
training setup there called Camp Snoopy.  It was heavily used after
the King Riots, and may still be used today.  You can't see it from
the road.  It has trailers for personnel and a K9 training course.

They trained with a lot of 37mm foam rubber rounds as well as tactical
stuff.  I believe they put the entire force through it because of the
less than stellar showing during the riots.  It must still be in use.

That's probably what you heard.

[e-mail] (HH357) wrote:

>Some kind of disturbance occured last Sunday, outside of Dodger stadium at
>about 2 in the afternoon as I recall.   Some supervisor (W unit?) came on
>the air and wanted dozens of units, with helmets, batons and shotguns to
>amass at an intersection outside the park.  It was all very exciting to
>listen to for about a half hour, just him Frantically requesting help for
>"only 40 minutes or so.."
>
>The only conclusion I could come to was a potential gang fight or some
>type of political disturbance, and that the shotguns were to show they
>meant business.
>Nothing else happened, and as usual, it wasn't on the news.
>
>My question regards his request.   He asked for a Mobile Field Force to be
>setup, which I have heard before, but he also asked that the units arrive
>in "Strike Team Formation".
>
>What is a Strike Team at the LAPD and what is a S.T. Formation.
>
>                                      cheers



From [e-mail] Thu Sep 05 21:30:33 1996
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Subject: Re: LAPD Strike Teams ?
Date: Wed, 4 Sep 1996 16:26:33 -0700
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On Tue, 3 Sep 1996, Larry Levy wrote:

> [e-mail] (HH357) wrote:
>
> >Some kind of disturbance occured last Sunday, outside of Dodger stadium at
> >about 2 in the afternoon as I recall.   Some supervisor (W unit?) came on
> >the air and wanted dozens of units, with helmets, batons and shotguns to
> >amass at an intersection outside the park.  It was all very exciting to
> >listen to for about a half hour, just him Frantically requesting help for
> >"only 40 minutes or so.."
>
> >The only conclusion I could come to was a potential gang fight or some
> >type of political disturbance, and that the shotguns were to show they
> >meant business.
> >Nothing else happened, and as usual, it wasn't on the news.
>
> >My question regards his request.   He asked for a Mobile Field Force to be
> >setup, which I have heard before, but he also asked that the units arrive
> >in "Strike Team Formation".
>
> >What is a Strike Team at the LAPD and what is a S.T. Formation.

> What you were most likely hearing was a training drill for civil
> disturbance responses that was held in the parking lot at Dodger
> Stadium.
>
> The LAPD training Division has used the Dodger's parking lots many
> times in the past for training purposes. Mostly, they use it for
> felony traffic stop training, but they have  had an in-service
> training program for tactics dealing with civil disturbances sine the
> 1992 riots.

Larry, you da man...

More than likely this was like Larry said a training session. I wonder
what they would do without the Dodger Staduim parking lot? Also, for
those unfamiliar with the area, the LAPD academy, amde famous in the
televsion show T.J. Hooker (Boy I'll bet Wille Shatner wishes he never
did that series) is right next door to the Dodger Staduim parking lot as
well.

A Strike team formation was something that they came up with after the
riots, basically, it's a wedge sorta formation using vehicles in the
forward rows with the doors open, and then having officers on foot behind
the cars in fully riot gear. All of LAPD's new cars have bullet-proof armor
in the front doors.

The shotguns in this scenario would have rubber pellets or bean bags,
which are used in crowd control situations. The rubber pellets are aimed
at the ground and fired which causes them to bounce back up at the crowd,
and the bean bags are fired right at the crowd, both are non-letheal.



Ken Koller

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From [e-mail] Thu Sep 05 21:30:34 1996
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From: [e-mail] (HH357)
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Subject: Re: LAPD Strike Teams ?
Date: 4 Sep 1996 13:56:13 -0400
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In article <50hqp1$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Larry Levy)
writes:

>
>What you were most likely hearing was a training drill for civil
>disturbance responses that was held in the parking lot at Dodger
>Stadium.

Thats possible, except that a Dodger game was in progress.  And by the
tone of the officer in charge you wouldn't have thought it was a drill.
It also was out in the street, not in the parking lot.

MAybe they were testing the officer in charge!


That still doesn't tell me what a Strike Teams is though.
         cheers


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 05 21:30:35 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Rich Carlson)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Legal and ethical restrictions on freq postings
Date: Tue, 03 Sep 1996 23:52:32 -0500
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It is perfectly legal to post frequencies that are illegal to listen to,
such as cellular (BTW, cellular freqs range from about 869 thru 894 MHz,
with the inputs 45 MHz below).  Knowledge of how to committ an illegal act
such as listening to cellular radio is not illegal.  I also know how to
shoot someone, steal his car, or burn his house down,  but I can not be
arrested for that knowledge.

While I am distressed that we have lost the right to monitor in our own
homes radio signals that are beamed in uninvited, I enjoy knowing that
ECPA violations are rarely (if at all) prosecuted, and probably wouldn't
get very far.

AS far as ethics, that is up to you.  Would I post surveilance freqs, or
others that may be sensitive?  In my books, I don't publish unlicensed
freqs that an agency has asked to remain secret.  With the easily
programmable radios that are out there now, these are so changable, that
by the time the books get to the publisher, they can change the freqs a
dozen times.  The decision should be on a case by case basis.


In article <01bb9632$e19cc720$[e-mail]>, "Cliff and
Diana Morrison" <[e-mail]> wrote:

** Are there any legal or ethical restrictions on posting frequencies on the
** Web?  I've been thinking of putting up a page about my area with my
** favorites and my guess at what they are.
**
** The only common sense restriction I could think of is that cellular phone
** and cordless phone frequencies should not be listed since monitoring them
** is illegal.
**
** There was a posting a few back about scanner frequencies in New Hampshire.
** I tried to follow it, but the link pointed to empty webspace.  I am left
** wondering if it vanished because it shouldn't have been up there in the
** first place, or just because of the usual spontaneous combustion of Web
** pages.
**
** Cliff Morrison
** [e-mail]

--
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From [e-mail] Thu Sep 05 21:30:36 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Bill Cheek)
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Subject: Re: LET'S ROCK!
Date: Thu, 05 Sep 1996 18:43:59 GMT
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Tracy Justus <[e-mail]> wrote:

>Let's get this newsgroup rockin' .. I'd like to see some constructive
>posts by both Cheeks and Mackey. In fact I DARE both Cheeks and Mackey
>to a contest!
>
>Which one of you can contribute the MOST to the newsgroup?

Wellllll, Rockin Robin, why don't YOU go through the article queue and
take a LOOK at all my constructive posts (and then Mackey's), before
you shoot off your mouth.  The numbers are already there, fella.

Else.....put your money where your mouth is.

Else.....do some constructive posts of your own, and SHOW ME how it's
done.

Eh?

Bill Cheek
Scannist Extraordinaire



From [e-mail] Thu Sep 05 21:30:37 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Richard D. Meadows)
Subject: Re: Looking for a mailorder outfit to purchase a handheld scanner
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[e-mail] wrote:

>Douglas Alexander wrote:
>>
>> Looking for a good mailorder firm to purchase a handheld scanner from:
>>

>http://www.demon.co.uk/javiation/

You might want to check out  Copper Electronics

They are on the Web

http://www.copper.com

1-800-968-8500  and I think you can get a free catalog.

Richard



From [e-mail] Thu Sep 05 21:30:38 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Going Broke)
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Subject: Re: Looking for a Scanner freq. data base on WWWW
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As a matter of fact, yes I may be able to help. Point your browser to
http://www.oz.net/~gmcavoy/index.html

not all states listed yet but Gene said they are going to post databases
on a
number of other states soon. I think it'll be worth the wait.

Larry

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  GOING BROKE  [e-mail]




From [e-mail] Thu Sep 05 21:30:39 1996
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From: Mike <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner,alt.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Looking for Cordless Freq's
Date: Wed, 04 Sep 1996 20:03:58 -0700
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[e-mail] wrote:
>
> I'm looking for all the low band cordless phone frequencies as well as
> the 900mhz frequencies.  Thank you in advance!

Not sure of the 900 but here are the low bands:

New Cordless 43.72,  43.74,  43.82,  43.84,  43.92,  43.96,  44.12,
44.16,  44.18,  44.20,  44.32,  44.36,  44.40,  44.46,  44.48

Cordless Phones 46.61,  46.63,  46.67,  46.71,  46.73,  46.77,  46.83,
46.87,  46.93,  46.97

Try these too:

Baby Monitors 49.830,  49.845,  49.860,  49.875,  49.890


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 05 21:30:40 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Eric Via)
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Subject: Re: Looking for Cordless Freq's
Date: Thu, 05 Sep 1996 01:09:12 +0900
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In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] wrote:

> I'm looking for all the low band cordless phone frequencies as well as
> the 900mhz frequencies.  Thank you in advance!

  Try the ol' 44 to 49 MHZ range...

  Hope this helps...

Eric Via

===========================================================
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Dallas, Texas
My Web Page: http://www.why.net/users/ericvia/pershome.html
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okay to feed some bits of your friend to one of the vultures, to teach
him to do some tricks.  But only if you're serious about adopting the
vulture.  --Jack Handey


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 05 21:30:40 1996
From: [e-mail] (David Ellis)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: looking for freqs in NM
Date: Sun, 01 Sep 1996 04:16:13 GMT
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I'm looking for freq used in New Mexico, specifically, in and around
Socorro and the VLA (Very Large Array) facilities.

[e-mail]




From [e-mail] Thu Sep 05 21:30:41 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Clint Bradford)
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Subject: Re: Los Angeles Scanner Enthusiasts
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>>Im looking for Daniel Ferrara who posted 8/27 in regards to looking
>>for scanner enthusiasts in the LA area. I sent him mail at his
>>posted address of "[e-mail]" and got a "user unknown"
>>return from Primenet.

Don't you think it was a bogus request?


[e-mail]
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From [e-mail] Thu Sep 05 21:30:42 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Roland Stiner)
Date: 02 Sep 96 12:07:00
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J>==============================================================
 >        FINALLY!  A SCIENTIFIC APPROACH TO EFFECTIVE
 >           WEIGHT MANAGEMENT & METABOLIC FITNESS
 >                 NOW AVAILABLE IN AMERICA!

J>                   P H Y T O ~ S H A P E
 >        Because Nothing Tastes As Good As THIN Feels!
 >==============================================================

J>Your body has three primary sources of energy -- carbohydrates,
 >fats and proteins.  By taking these three energy sources, your
 >body literally "burns" them and creates the energy needed for
 >everyday life. Athletes know this, and often "fuel up" before a
 >competitive meet.

J>The problem is that not all of the food we eat is needed by the
 >body. When we consume an excess of energy (food), beyond what our
 >bodies need, the remainder is stored as fat.

Jeez, I wish he's said that we could loose weight from listing to the
scanner!  If that's not the case, then why post it here???

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From: [e-mail] (Mark)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Mackey as Moderator? Doesnt give his email address to people..
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Post with an e-mail address Mackey or, embarrass your self to the
group!!  You just want to waste space on REC.RADIO.SCANNER!!
IF NOT POST YOUR E-MAIL ADDRESS!!!

Give us R.R.SCANNER readers a break ! You, LOSER, dont even post your
real e-mail address!!! Do you want to waste r.r.scanner space?

Come on Mackey post it for all of us in Rec.Radio.Scanner!

What do you have to hide?

Are you afraid on getting e-mail bombs like you did to Bill Cheek?
Just a mouth behind a mike. Which is real brave from a looser who
doesn't identify himself!

You have NO integrity. You are a transparent peice of Flotsam.

You are also a whimp.. talking trash with No back bone.. Post your
email.. Don't argue with me! - Dont reply without an e-mail address
Don't moderate with no way to privately get in touch with the
moderator!

Either Post YOUR REAL E-MAIL ADDRESS.. or wimp out(lleave the group
jerkoff) - we dont hide behind names like you do!

F*cking loser p*ssy

Die whimp!!!


DONT REPLY without an email address - dont cop out!!!!!!!!!! Dont hide
anymore!!!! Its just not right Mackey...

We are tired of you



From [e-mail] Thu Sep 05 21:30:44 1996
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From: ron cain <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: MAGALLAN 3000 GPS UNIT
Date: Tue, 03 Sep 1996 08:38:08 -0700
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Roland Stiner wrote:
>
> M>There is a system called Tracker that has GPS and a control head that
>  >you can operate to send messages to the dispatcher.
>
> M>You can scroll to say "Traffic Stop" and press the send button this
>  >would send a message to the dispatcher that you are doing a traffic
>  >stop and would both show your location on the map and print out your
>  >location on the screen.
>
> M>Tracker is also made to dispatch calls too.
>
> M>I work for a towing and recovery company and we have used Tracker for
>  >the last few years and found it excelent.
>
> Would you happen to know if the Magellan 3000 is usable in a small
> airplane?  I have a friend in France who flies and is interested in one.
> Would you have any information on that model?
>

Roland, try sci.geo.satellite-nav for GPS questions.

Cheers, Ron Cain


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 05 21:30:45 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Roland Stiner)
Date: 02 Sep 96 12:07:00
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M>There is a system called Tracker that has GPS and a control head that
 >you can operate to send messages to the dispatcher.

M>You can scroll to say "Traffic Stop" and press the send button this
 >would send a message to the dispatcher that you are doing a traffic
 >stop and would both show your location on the map and print out your
 >location on the screen.

M>Tracker is also made to dispatch calls too.

M>I work for a towing and recovery company and we have used Tracker for
 >the last few years and found it excelent.

Would you happen to know if the Magellan 3000 is usable in a small
airplane?  I have a friend in France who flies and is interested in one.
Would you have any information on that model?

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   OLX 1.53   -------------->    73, de NK2U    <----------------
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From [e-mail] Thu Sep 05 21:30:46 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Joseph Cardani )
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Subject: Re: Middlesex County, NJ
Date: Tue, 03 Sep 1996 14:48:59 GMT
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[e-mail] (Going Broke) wrote:

>I'm looking for people in the Middlesex County area to swap freqs with.
>I'm sure none of us has them all.  Maybe if we get together in our e-mail
>we can get a little closer.

>Thanks
>Larry

Larry,

Check my web page for the NJSP Troop C (Central) frequencies,
talkgroup assignments, codes, and unit identifiers. Also have Ocean
County info in there if you are close to that County. The rest of the
detailed info is for South Jersey.

http://www.voicenet.com/~jcardani/sjscan.com

Joe Cardani





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From: [e-mail] (Hurst Laviana (Eagle))
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Subject: Military Aircraft Freqs in Kansas
Date: 4 Sep 1996 16:59:03 GMT
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Has anybody got military aircraft frequencies for the Wichita, Kansas, area?

We are trying to hear McConnell AFB, the Kansas Air National Guard and
the B1-Bs flying overhead.




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From: Temp Berdan <[e-mail]>
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Subject: MilSatCom Iraq...any action??
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Howdy,
Trying to see what I can get in the military satcom arena...
specifically traffic heading out to Hawaii /Guam/Iraq (I'm on the west
coast).
Is anyone out there actually hearing anything on the milsatcoms?
I have a multitude of mil freqs. (they are in the new 5th edition of
ArtSci's "Federal Government Frequency Assignments").
A superb reference manual (with CTCSS tones) ..... but there are so many
freqs that they far exceed the capacity of my 9k.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Temp
P.S. A big thank you to Mike Mattel, LAX scannist, who told me about the
ArtSci pubs.
TB


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There has been quite a lot of *encrypted* traffic around
262.??? (don't have list with me).  I have not heard any
plain traffic on satcom in quite a while.  Last time there
was anything other than a test count was during hurricane
Andrew.  If anyone hears anything I also would be interested
in the freqs.
bill
ps I am on the east coast.

Temp Berdan ([e-mail]) wrote:
: Howdy,
: Trying to see what I can get in the military satcom arena...
: specifically traffic heading out to Hawaii /Guam/Iraq (I'm on the west
: coast).
: Is anyone out there actually hearing anything on the milsatcoms?
: I have a multitude of mil freqs. (they are in the new 5th edition of
: ArtSci's "Federal Government Frequency Assignments").


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 05 21:30:49 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Ken Navarre)
Subject: Re: MilSatCom Iraq...any action??
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George F. ([e-mail]) wrote:
: Help, little new to scanners.  Are MilSatCom  military communication
: satalites?  Can they be heard with a 'normal' scanner if so how bout some
: frequencies.

Try:
260.35 - 260.85
262.05 - 262.55
249.35 - 249.85
261.45 - 261.95
263.55 - 264.05
248.85 - 249.35
the above are specific blocks but other traffic takes place. Some is wide
band, some narrow band, some USB. Most is encrypted but every now and
again something comes thru in the clear. I think the last thing I heard
in the clear was an inventory manifest transmitted from Antartica to an
inbound C-130...

: I have a PRO-2006 & PRO-60 with a Discone Antenna, would this be good enough

: to pick these up?

I've used a similar antenna in Northern Calif to hear the Antartica
stations. A pointed skyward beam would be better. You used to be able to
hear some transponder beacons occasionally to point the beam to but I
haven't heard these on the air in a while...

Ken
--


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 05 21:30:51 1996
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From: BaBaBooey <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: Mobile Scanners - Illegal in USA?
Date: Thu, 05 Sep 1996 02:51:33 -0400
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I know for a fact that they are legal in Ohio.  I believe mobile scanners are
legal in the majority of states.


Sparky J. Morehouse wrote:
>
> Another point I'd like to add is that HOW will a law enforcement officer eve
n
> KNOW you have a scanner unless you're pulled over? If you're discrete, obey
> the traffic laws, and don't have an antenna farm on your vehicle, how will
> they know? My advice is to simple BLEND IN..!
>
> Also, a hand held scanner can be quickly stashed under the seat if you do ge
t
> pulled over. Antenna couplers exist so you can use your car antenna can be
> also used for the scanner.
>
> In note <[e-mail]>, Stan Vandiver  writes:
> >Gus wrote:
> >:>
> >:> [e-mail] (Ramon V. Samson) wrote:
> >:>
> >:> >This maybe an FAQ but, is it true that scanners, particularly mobile on
es
> >:> >are now illegal in the US?? My friend, a scanner enthusiast here in
> >:> >British Columbia, Can, plans to travel by car in the US West Coast stat
es
> >:> >next month, but says he can not take his scanner because of this...Can
> >:> >anyone out there answer this...
> >:>
> >:> I have heard from a friend who is an ham operator that if you are a
> >:> ham you can carry it claiming it for ham use.  in some states it is
> >:> suppose to be illegal.  Tx is one but I have been unable to get the
> >:> law that states it.  It is mainly ilegal to listen to law enforcement
> >:> and emergencies.  that is the reason for the law.  so that ambulance
> >:> chasers and sight seers will not show up at every call.
> >:>
> >:> good luck
> >
> >I think it is illegal in most states, but not necessarily for the reason
> >stated byGus, although that may also be part of it.  The biggest "ambulance
> >chaser" of themall is the news media, and like amateur radio operators, the
y
> >are also frequentlyexempted from the scanner laws.  I believe the main
> >reason for making mobile policescanners illegal is to prevent people (ie,
> >criminals) from monitoring the policeactivities while in the commission of
a
> >crime, or flight from a crime.  Not that itwould make a big difference to
> >criminals anyway... just to be breaking one more law!But its one more thing
> >to charge them with if they're caught I guess.
> >Also, while amateur radio operators may not be exempted in *every* state
> >from thelocal scanner laws... many of our VHF/UHF radios have the capabilit
y
> >to receive (butnot transmit) on the public service bands.  Because of this,
> >the FCC made a federalpreemption to local/state scanner laws so that we may
> >travel nationwide with ourham radios without fear of having them
> >confiscated.  Of course, not all police deptsare aware of this, and its a
> >good idea to carry a copy of this FCC preemption whentravelling, along with
> >a copy of the amateur license.  It would also be prudent toturn off the
> >radio if approached by an officer and not try to "show off" that youcan
> >listen in on his conversations... why invite trouble?--
> >
> >Best regards, Stan
> >ax.25: KD9BE @ KD9BE.#NWIN.IN
> >www: [e-mail]/~kd9be/
>
> ---
> Enjoy,
>
> Sparky
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> FROM: Sparky J. Morehouse          "in the Wine Country of California"
>                         HAM:  KE6VGA
> REPLY: [e-mail]          Please support Public Radio
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------


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From: Sparky J. Morehouse <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: Mobile Scanners - Illegal in USA?
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Another point I'd like to add is that HOW will a law enforcement officer even
KNOW you have a scanner unless you're pulled over? If you're discrete, obey
the traffic laws, and don't have an antenna farm on your vehicle, how will
they know? My advice is to simple BLEND IN..!

Also, a hand held scanner can be quickly stashed under the seat if you do get
pulled over. Antenna couplers exist so you can use your car antenna can be
also used for the scanner.

In note <[e-mail]>, Stan Vandiver  writes:
>Gus wrote:
>:>
>:> [e-mail] (Ramon V. Samson) wrote:
>:>
>:> >This maybe an FAQ but, is it true that scanners, particularly mobile ones
>:> >are now illegal in the US?? My friend, a scanner enthusiast here in
>:> >British Columbia, Can, plans to travel by car in the US West Coast states
>:> >next month, but says he can not take his scanner because of this...Can
>:> >anyone out there answer this...
>:>
>:> I have heard from a friend who is an ham operator that if you are a
>:> ham you can carry it claiming it for ham use.  in some states it is
>:> suppose to be illegal.  Tx is one but I have been unable to get the
>:> law that states it.  It is mainly ilegal to listen to law enforcement
>:> and emergencies.  that is the reason for the law.  so that ambulance
>:> chasers and sight seers will not show up at every call.
>:>
>:> good luck
>
>I think it is illegal in most states, but not necessarily for the reason
>stated byGus, although that may also be part of it.  The biggest "ambulance
>chaser" of themall is the news media, and like amateur radio operators, they
>are also frequentlyexempted from the scanner laws.  I believe the main
>reason for making mobile policescanners illegal is to prevent people (ie,
>criminals) from monitoring the policeactivities while in the commission of a
>crime, or flight from a crime.  Not that itwould make a big difference to
>criminals anyway... just to be breaking one more law!But its one more thing
>to charge them with if they're caught I guess.
>Also, while amateur radio operators may not be exempted in *every* state
>from thelocal scanner laws... many of our VHF/UHF radios have the capability
>to receive (butnot transmit) on the public service bands.  Because of this,
>the FCC made a federalpreemption to local/state scanner laws so that we may
>travel nationwide with ourham radios without fear of having them
>confiscated.  Of course, not all police deptsare aware of this, and its a
>good idea to carry a copy of this FCC preemption whentravelling, along with
>a copy of the amateur license.  It would also be prudent toturn off the
>radio if approached by an officer and not try to "show off" that youcan
>listen in on his conversations... why invite trouble?--
>
>Best regards, Stan
>ax.25: KD9BE @ KD9BE.#NWIN.IN
>www: [e-mail]/~kd9be/

---
Enjoy,

Sparky

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FROM: Sparky J. Morehouse          "in the Wine Country of California"
                        HAM:  KE6VGA
REPLY: [e-mail]          Please support Public Radio
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From [e-mail] Thu Sep 05 21:30:53 1996
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From: [e-mail] (JBerszoner)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Moderate or Not to Moderate.....
Date: 1 Sep 1996 19:13:00 -0400
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That is the question. Who cares is the answer. I, for one, avoid these
bombastic little missives about Cheek, etc., etc., and all the
narrow-minded anarchistic ideas that are thrown about on this group. I
just stick to seeking and answering SCANNER AND SCANNING QUESTIONS. You
dudes can rant and rave all you want. Just do it somewhere else, huh.

I've sat in the weeds long enough, tolerated just about all the childish,
boorish and moronic behaviour I can handle. Moderating this newsgroup
subjects us all to the morals, ideas and ego of the the moderator. That's
no good. Not having a moderator simplifies the issues, but exposes us all
to you morons who flame one another, for whatever reason. That's not good
either.

Maybe we should follow the advice of Bob Dole and find our own
self-control:) Nah, that won't work. Any respectable ideas short of
character assassination, flame-wars, and just plain stupidity?


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In <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Ken Navarre) writes:
>
>Bill Cheek ([e-mail]) wrote:
>: People just don't realize the value of shit.  They think we're being
>: mean when we hose 'em down with some.
>
>: Tsk.....tsk.....tsk.
>
>
>Ummm. Bill, you're NOT helping here!!!  :)
>
>Ken
>--

    From the pile of shit, in time, a rose will grow from within.

    bill


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 05 21:30:55 1996
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From: "Jeffrey Miller" <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: Moderate or Not to Moderate.....
Date: 5 Sep 1996 18:52:31 GMT
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Moderators are only needed if we can't "Control" ourselves... Since we are
all adults
I would assume we are able to control our anger, frustration, etc..
.
If we can't then the moderator should be someone with knowledge but someone
without any grudges against any other people also people with grudges
against them would be bad for a moderator. That way he or she can be fair
toward all the people posting in this news group.
.
Personally I don't believe we need a moderator just self control.
.
Sorry for any spelling errors.



From [e-mail] Thu Sep 05 21:30:56 1996
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From: John-KA0SSF <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: Moderator
Date: Mon, 02 Sep 1996 21:14:37 -0500
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Charles Mikelson wrote:
>
>
> >Bill Cheek wrote:
>
> >> *IF* this newsgroup is to be moderated, then my hat's in the ring,
> >>  self-nomination, if you will.  I've got moderator experience, and a
> >>  decisive Size #13EE boot.
>
> If Bill (shithead) Cheek is allows himself to become moderator he
> will destory this newsgroup just like he destroyed Fido SCANRADIO.
>
> He is a vindictive asshole that seems to think he is GOD and all
> the rest of us can go to hell.
>
> This Nazi dictator must not be allowed to this newsgroup


Well said, very well said.


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From: [e-mail] (Ron Katz)
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Subject: Re: Moderator
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[e-mail] (Bill Cheek) wrote:

>Paul Jackson <[e-mail]> wrote:
>
>>> vote goes to Bill Cheek.  It's a no-brainer, really.  The man has done
>>> more to advance the scanning hobby than everyone else put together.
>
>>I'll second that!  Bill has my vote.


Yes he sure has done a lot to this newsgroup...<GRIN>

I can just imagine what any newsgroup would be if it were moderated by
some  no-life, no-job,  scanners are my life, yapping  think they know
it all, dying book salesman.

Give your head a shake


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From: "John C. Noble" <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: Moderator
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Strikes me that,
..because someone has excellent technical knowledge, that does NOT
necessarily mean they would be a good Moderator.  An analogy would be the
good salesman is made manager, but then fails.  It's a different skill set.
Selfishly, I'd rather have those with great technical knowledge spending
time being productive in that arena, not reading every (damn) post for
"suitability".  My recommendation would be someone ( or a group) who has a
reasonable amount of scanner knowledge, enthusiasm about the topic, the
time to Moderate, and the ability in a amicable way to keep things on
topic.  This is not to say controversy is off topic, but I think it is
agreed flaming is.
Take care.  JN

Tracy Justus <[e-mail]> wrote in article
<[e-mail]>...
> Correct me if I'm wrong (I tend to pass up the flame messages because
> they are a waste of time), but isn't the subject of moderating this
> newgroups the result of an imature flame war between Mackey and Cheeks?
> If so, then making either of them the moderater of this newsgroup is
> just defeating the purpose of having a moderater.
>
> If either of them had the stuff it takes to be a moderater we wouldn't
> be looking for a moderater in the first place.
>
> I suspect that most of the people reading this newgroups are only
> looking to trade information on radio scanning.
>
> Paul Jackson wrote:
> > I have to agree, we should not have to have a moderator but this
> > flaming of Bill has gotten way out of hand.  Bill has the knowledge
> > that would be required to moderate this group.  He has shown great
> > control in all of the flames and that is another -plus- for him.
> >
> > Again, I would had to see this moderated but if it has to be then Bill
> > is the one that can do it!
> >
> > Hang in there Bill!
>
> --
> ________________________________
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From [e-mail] Thu Sep 05 21:30:59 1996
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Date: Wed, 04 Sep 1996 13:52:00 -0400
From: [e-mail] (Roger Cravens)
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Subject: Moderator

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Date: 09-02-96 (22:21)
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NFJ-@>From: [e-mail]

NFJ-@> * From: John-KA0SSF <[e-mail]>
   -@> * Reply-To: [e-mail]

NFJ-@>All with Bill's ass kissers.  Hell, there used to be -*50*- posts
   -@>per day now they get about 5 per day EXCEPT for the monthly
   -@>posting Roger Cravens puts out that takes about 10 messages
   -@>because it is so damm big.

Pardon me a second, John!  Is this an attack on my postings?  I haven't
seen anyone here OR on Fido who posts as complete and extensive listings
as I have in the past, and currently do from time to time.  Especially
on Fido as not everyone on the planet has (or wants) access to Internet
resources for what ever reason they may have.

As it has been mentioned previously, if you don't want or need these
postings of mine, you are most certainly free to hit your next or delete
keys at your convenience.  There has never been anyone holding a gun to
your head forcing you to read anything I post here or anywhere else.

Other than a previously mentioned message where you state you have a
problem with abusing various drugs and alcohol where I wished you the
best in any recovery you might be involved in, to the best of my
knowledge you and I have never been in a pissing contest before.  I am
not going to start now as more than half of the message space this group
is taken up by your drug/alcohol induced ramblings.

I still wish you the best though.  You do need some serious counseling.

Roger Cravens
Atlanta, GA
***
 o QMPro 1.52 o Liberals: Past deeds illuminate current treacheries.


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 05 21:31:00 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Tim Payne)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Moderator and other stuff
Date: Tue, 03 Sep 96 13:46:01 GMT
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Ummmm, excuse me for interupting the flame war that I am somehow being blamed
for starting, but would any of you like to read all the posts before jumping
into the fray?

In addition to my request to help pick a moderator for
REC.RADIO.SCANNER.MODERATED, I also posted the RFD for several new sub topics
of REC.RADIO.SCANNER.  If any of you that are screaming 'START YOUR OWN
MODERATED GROUP!' had bothered to read it, you would know that the moderated
group would be in addition to REC.RADIO.SCANNER.  Hence, Bill and all the
others, I am starting a new group!

Again, if you had read the charted to the moderated group, it says that the
duty of the moderator is to make sure that all posts apply to the group topic,

scanning.  That's it.  Nowhere does it say 'only approve those posts that meet

your personal agenda'.  If your post is for some reason rejected, there will
be multiple moderators to review it if you request it, and you can go to the
leaders of Usenet if you still feel that the post was on topic.

Now, I simply posted asking for moderators because I think there are people
out there with more time and expertise at it than me (hence, I am not trying
to be a dictator!).  I wanted the choice for moderator to be a group decision,

but that obviously cannot occur due to the vocal minority.

I do not now, nor have I ever, said that I know more than anyone else here.
Nor have I ever blasted anyone for being new to the hobby.  I am just the
average hobbyist that tries to gain as much knowledge as possible by reading
and doing.  This was a good forum for that.  It may be again.  Time will
tell.

The moderator(s) for the group needs a basic knowledge of the scanning hobby,
but nothing more.  This is not rocket science!!  It requires the ability to
read the post and decide if it is on or off topic.  Nothing more.

Now, as far as self moderation, that is not possible.  As the last 2 months
have shown, there are many people here that simply cannot contain themselves
for taking pot-shots at others.  Read almost any thread and there is an attack

somewhere.

If there are other questions that you would like addressed, please keep it in
e-mail.  I always put my e-mail address on my posts.

And now, maybe, back to scanning!!

Tim Payne
[e-mail]




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From: [e-mail] (Malex007)
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Well, let's just get back to bashing each other and the hell with
scanning.


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 05 21:31:02 1996
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Jack McGee wrote:
>
>  SNIP ----- SNIP------
> I hope the moderated group(s?) get off the ground.

I also an for moderation of this group. It is the only way
to stop the spam and childish flame wars.

Jim Wayda
Captain, Scanner Price Police


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 05 21:31:03 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Bill Cheek)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Moderator and other stuff
Date: Wed, 04 Sep 1996 08:19:27 GMT
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[e-mail] (Paul Cordingley) wrote:

>Freedom can be stolen in many ways. One is by censorship,

Indeed.

>but another is by allowing one individual to pursue their
>'rights' without regard for those around them.

Ummmmmmm, in REALITY, that statement holds a carefully
measured amount of water.  "Without regard", however is not
a criterion test for the validity of your statement.  It is
perfectly acceptable and even morally correct in some
instances to NOT have regard for rights of others when in
pursuit of one's own rights and civil liberties.  I don't
want to get into a litany of those instances, but let's
refer to "victimless" acts and move right into virtuality.

>The guy who sits in a public place immersed in
>filth, claims it's his right, and dares you to try and move him, is
>stealing your freedom, just like censorship does.

That may be so.....but virtuality is not a place nor is it
public.  It is a concept totally devoid of anything tangible
and physical.  Your statement has no parallel in virtuality
though you are trying to draw one.

>Study democratic nations (The US is not the only one, remember) and
>you'll find that their constitutions allow reasonable limits on
>individuals' excercise of 'rights'. That's why Canadians can't own
>handguns, Americans can't listen to cellphones...and so forth.
>Communities set standards, and then require their members to meet
>them.

Here again, you are trying to parallel reality with
virtuality.

>I wish we could create a community standard in this newsgroup. Closing
>one's eyes doesn't uphold the community standards, it mocks them.

Why do you say that?  There is no relationship of reality to
virtuality.  You are trying to infuse your perception of a
virtual "thing" into a semblance of rule and law.  This is
extremely dangerous for society, civilization, and
especially our way of Life.

Look, let's digress over to another "world" for a moment:
TELEPATHY.  We know that it exists.  It has a name.  It has
been demonstrated to be be outside the realm of chaos and
chance.  We just don't know how to tap and reliably use it
(yet).  But what about when we do?

You will be the first one to call for the "thought police"
when you read someone else's mind begging for you to go lay
an egg and sit on it.  It goes downhill from there.

Virtuality is a form and forum that is best left alone from
civil, social, and moral tampering and engineering.  One,
you have a choice of coming here or not.  Two, you already
possess total control, and if you wish, you can execute me
on the spot........FOOF!  ZAP!  I'm dead.  You have....or
should have full and total control over your computer and
everything in it.  Including me, if I'm in it.

Why isn't that good enough?  Why do you feel compelled to be
a meddling, goody-two-shoes, tearfully begging for a force
to control others?  Don't you understand that once this
force is in place, it can never be excised and that it will
work against you, sooner or later?

Why not just stuff a sock in it and control your own domain?
You already possess a cast-iron, force-field condom.
Nothing from virtuality can enter your reality unless you
permit it.

Bill Cheek
Scannist Extraordinaire
(Voicing his own damned opinions_



From [e-mail] Thu Sep 05 21:31:04 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Bill Cheek)
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Subject: Re: Moderator List
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[e-mail] (Charles Mikelson) wrote:

>Bill Cheeks is a dictator and seems to think he is GOD and everyone
>else can go to hell.
>
>I apologise for my language, but if the FIDONET echos he moderates
>are any example of the type of a**hole he is PLEASE do not let him
>ruin the INTERNET as well.
>
>[e-mail]

Geezus H. Kriste, where did this snotball come from?

I don't know this flake from Adam, but I get the below
e-mail from him about the same time he posted the above.

Sheeeesh!

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Why are you trying to destroy rec.radio.scanner?

Ruining Fido was not enough for you eh!

You are a vindictive anal retentive asshole and
it seem that if it is not your way it has to be wrong.

WHO ELECTED YOU GOD!

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From [e-mail] Thu Sep 05 21:31:05 1996
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From: Jim Conley <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Motorola 800Mhz Radio
Date: Wed, 04 Sep 1996 21:44:45 -0700
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A friend of mine uses a Motorola 800Mhz radio for his business, and
also uses a scanner to follow the fire dispatch.  The Sacramento area
just switched to a 800Mhz trunked system.  He has heard that he can
have his radio programed to listen to the dispatch.

How hard is it to do?

Thanks
Jim


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 05 21:31:06 1996
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From: [e-mail] (SP3027)
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Subject: Motorola HT600 FS
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My Motorola VHF-Hi six-channel 5W portable is still for sale (I sold the
R71). Unit is in excellent condition, but battery can stand replacement.
Comes with charger, and the two adapters for an external antenna. Both the
operator and service manual are included. Make offer.

[e-mail]


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 05 21:31:07 1996
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From: [e-mail]
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Subject: NED MOD AN BEARCAT 9000XLT
Date: 2 Sep 1996 01:24:21 GMT
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I NED MOD AN BEARCAT 9000 XLT.
IN MY COUNTRY IS NOT POSSIBLE TO OBTAIN THE MAGAZINES OF USA.
PLES HELP ME. CELLULAT PHONE REQUIREMENT.
TKS.
PABLO/FERNANDO
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From [e-mail] Thu Sep 05 21:31:08 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Joseph Cardani )
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: New Jersey State Police Freq? Turnpike?
Date: Tue, 03 Sep 1996 14:37:55 GMT
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[e-mail] (Eric 172) wrote:

>  Does anyone have the new whereabouts of the New Jersey State Police
>Troop "D" (The New Jersey Turnpike)?? They used to reside on several
>VHF-Hi frequencies (155.190, 155.580, etc) but have since disappeared. I
>have tried seaching around the 800mhz band (where I believe they have
>relocated to) but have found nothing other than Troop "C" (trunked State
>Police for central Jersey) and Troop "E" (Garden State Parkway).

Eric,

The turnpike state police communications is on the statewide trunked
radio system. The old 150's freqs are no longer used for dispatch.
Troop C (Central) carries the area you are looking for - Which is the
New Brunswick (Now Cranbury) station. The NJSP built a new turnpike
law enforcement communications building in Cranbury a few miles south
of New Brunswick. Actually you can hear all 3 turnpike stations on
Troop C since they are simulcast on the Type II side.

See my home page under New Jersey State at the following url:

http://www.voicenet.com/~jcardani/sjscan.htm

You will find all of the frequencies (they just added several more -
Troop A has 12 and Troop C has 14). Also I have the latest Type I
fleet/subfleet assignments and the newer Type II talkgroups for Troops
A (South)  and troop C (Central).

I believe that the turnpike comms are only transmitted from the
western towers (those closest to the turnpike). If you live close to
the shore, you may not receive the signals. And the Parkway comms are
vice-versa. You would not be able to pick up Parkway from western
portions of NJ.

Anyway check out my web page for ALL of the freqs and the talkgroups.
You should better understand the system after you do.


> Any help would be appreciated! I am specifically interested in the
>frequencies transmitted from the New Brunswick office at exit 9 of the
>Turnpike..

Note, the transmitters are not located at the old sites (New
Brunswick, Moorestown, Newark) anymore - they are now at the trunked
radio system sites.


Joe Cardani



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From: Robert Barker <[e-mail]>
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Subject: New Radio Shack Catalog
Date: Tue, 27 Aug 1996 09:05:59 -0700
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Radio Shack has their new 1997 catalog and surprisingly they did not
charge $3 for it.  They only asked for my name and address to update
their computer.  It was already in their database.  It still does say
$2.95 on it so I'm wondering if other stores would charge and give the $3
coupon sticker or whatever.  My catalog did not have the $3 off coupon
since I got it free.


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 05 21:31:10 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Andy Domonkos)
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Subject: Re: New Radio Shack Catalog
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Drew Durigan ([e-mail]) wrote:
:
: Yep.  That's why we call 'em "Salesdroids."  Completely pre-programmed by
: Radio Shack Corporate, regardless of common sense.
:
: -Drew in Sunny Central Florida-
:  KF4DDM
:

Not all Radio Shack's fault. It's the quality of many brain-dead high
school and college graduates being dumped on the market these days.

Andy



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[e-mail] (Andy Domonkos) wrote:
>
>Drew Durigan ([e-mail]) wrote:
>:
>: Yep.  That's why we call 'em "Salesdroids."  Completely pre-programmed
by
>: Radio Shack Corporate, regardless of common sense.
>:
>: -Drew in Sunny Central Florida-
>:  KF4DDM
>:
>
>Not all Radio Shack's fault. It's the quality of many brain-dead high
>school and college graduates being dumped on the market these days.
>
>Andy


True.  But on the other hand, what caliber of worker do you expect to get
when you only pay your people $5 per hour and work your managers 60+
hours per week?

-Drew in Sunny Central Florida-
 KF4DDM





From [e-mail] Thu Sep 05 21:31:11 1996
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From: [e-mail] (VoltageS)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: New Radio Shack Catalog
Date: 4 Sep 1996 20:19:56 -0400
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I made a $6.00 purchase at my local Radio Shack this a.m. and got the '97
cat. for  no charge.


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 05 21:31:12 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Clay Irving)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: New Scanning List
Date: 3 Sep 1996 10:50:42 -0400
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I've heard from Peter Laws that SCAN-L may return shortly (pending a
conversation with his attorney). In the meantime, I've created another
scanning list:

        List Name:     Scanning
        List Address:  [e-mail]

        Subscription:  Send an Email message to: [e-mail]
                       with "subcribe scanning" in the body of the message.


--
Clay Irving N2VKG
[e-mail]
http://www.panix.com/~clay/


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 05 21:31:15 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Bill Cheek)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Newbie Help Please.
Date: Tue, 03 Sep 1996 17:18:36 GMT
Organization: COMMtronics Engineering/World Scanner Report
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[e-mail] wrote:

>I wouldlike to purchace a antenna that is good in all my
>Mhz ranges can someone suggest one? Ive shopped all around
>and dont know what is the best. I only want the best.
>Is the "antenna specialist" Mon-31R a good one?
>
>I have a Radio Shack PRO-51 hand held.

It is not possible to answer your question yet.  There are
too many variables.  Bear with me.

You can read a book under a 100-w incandescent light bulb
from several feet away.  Even right close to it, it is not
likely to do any permanent damage to your eyes.

Yet you can't read a thing from the light of a .005-w laser
diode, but it could blind you from 100-ft away.

Next, imagine a 1-watt flashlight bulb in a socket with no
reflector, trying to light a room.  It will be dimly lit.
Now put that same bulb in a flashlight and any spot in the
room where you point it will be much brighter than if
illuminated by the normal 100-w room lamp.  The rest of the
room will be dark, of course.  But the spot will be
brilliant.

Ponder the above, because the concepts there are identical
for antennas.

Now there is no such thing as a "best antenna" for scanners.
There is only a "best" for YOUR needs and objectives.  There
are three primary characteristics of antennas that have to
be considered:

1.  Gain - (How "powerful" the antenna is.)
2.  Bandwidth - (The freqs at which it has max reception)
3.  Directivity - (Good for some directions and not others)
                  (or, good for all directions)

I need to know what you want there.  You can't "have it
all".  But we can get down to two simple questions for you
to answer:

A.  Do you want to receive equally well around a full
    360-degree circle?  Yes/No

B.  Do you want to receive equally well from about
    30-MHz to 1 GHz?   Yes/No

If yes to both, then the probable best antenna for your
desires is the Icom AH-7000 or the Diamond D-130J.  These
are discone style antennas with 0 dB gain, but are
omnidirectional and extremely wide-banded.

If *not* yes to both, then the number of variables gets too
huge to address until you give more details of your needs.

Rgds,

Bill

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From [e-mail] Thu Sep 05 21:31:16 1996
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From: [e-mail] (RICK THOMPSON III)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: NO MODERATION!
Date: Mon, 02 Sep 1996 18:56:09 GMT
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        It is up to you what you will read or not.  When people begin to think
that THEY need to determine what other people read,  we are all
subject to their preferences and beliefs.  These are just stop signs
on the "information superhighway".  If you want to read it, read it.
If you don't, then don't.  No one who posts articles should have to
have them delayed and evaluated by someone who would inevitably misuse
his or her position.  No moderation please!




From [e-mail] Thu Sep 05 21:31:17 1996
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Subject: Norfolk county
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Anyone have frequencies for Norfolk CO. Mass?


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 05 21:31:18 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Keith Knipschild)
Subject: NYC Area Scanner Net Tonight
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If your in the NYC area ( NJ/CT/LI ) there is a Scanner Net that
is on 147.360 Mhz at 8pm Wednesdays...
The Net Host is N2NOV - Charlie

I would like to try having a IRC Room open, So if your around
stop by " #NYCSCANNERNET " on the undernet server..

Use the Main Undernet Server at: us.undernet.org

See ya there,
Keith

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From [e-mail] Thu Sep 05 21:31:18 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Ed Williams)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Open Letter About Moderating This Newsgroup
Date: Mon, 02 Sep 1996 01:45:12 GMT
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[e-mail] (Bill Cheek) wrote:
>Mr. Tim Payne wants to force moderated status on this newsgroup.


Bill,
I belive the original idea was to create another newsgroup, i.e...
rec.radio.scanners.moderated, however I was under the assumption that
this newsgroup would stay intact.
If that is not the case then I agree totally with what you are saying.
This is the internet, not fido-net.  Censorship is what we need to be
fighting against instead of trying to promote moderation.
If I want want moderation I will go to Fido-net.

________________________________
Ed Williams <<[e-mail]>>
GRW Engineers, Inc. Lexington, Ky.
http://www.mindspring.com/~ed1

Finger for commercial e-mail notices



From [e-mail] Thu Sep 05 21:31:19 1996
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From: John-KA0SSF <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Open Letter About Moderating This Newsgroup
Date: Mon, 02 Sep 1996 21:02:09 -0500
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Bill Cheek wrote:

> >If I want want moderation I will go to Fido-net.
>
> Exactly.  Though I have to add that Fido moderation is a lot looser
> than Usenet moderation.  Fido's is just that: moderation.  Usenet's is
> CENSORSHIP.  A few people are making a mountain out of a molehill with

BULLSHIT.

You kicjed John Kaose off of your echo when you told everyone here on
this
newsgroup that you would only give him a warning.

Yea Bill, you probably don't have much moderation to do any more
because you kicked everyone off the echo who didn't think like you
& kiss your ass.  Unfortunately you have that right on Fidonet, but
ONLY because you DID NOT do as most everyone requested & have a
moderation election, you have maintained your dictatorship rather
than go with the desire of the people.


> Bill Cheek
> Scannist Extraordinaire

Do you have extra large doorways in your house to accomodate your
big head??


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 05 21:31:20 1996
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From: "James P. Meyer" <[e-mail]>
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Date: Wed, 4 Sep 1996 10:22:55 -0400
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On Wed, 4 Sep 1996, Bill Cheek wrote:

> Hence, my directness and bluntness in evoking anwers to
> questions that were genuine on my part, and probably in a
> lot of others who were intimidated into not asking.
>
> Bill Cheek
> (Voicing my own dumb opinions)

        You have no need to feel intimidated, Bill.  The usenet news
groups are open to everybody.  There are quite a few "faq"s out there in
cyberland that will give you step-by-step directions for creating your
very own news group with every bit of the legitimacy of *any* other news
group.

        There's no reason to be concerned with anything that happens here
on this group.  You can start your very own news group about five minutes
after you read the faq.  You can set it up as open or moderated.  The
group won't be automatically carried by every ISP in the beginning (no
ISP carries *all* the groups even now), but almost every ISP will add the
group if only one or two of their users will ask for the group.

        You could give users a choice of news groups.  Competition is a
good thing, in America at least.

        Jim




From [e-mail] Thu Sep 05 21:31:22 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Bill Cheek)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Open Letter About Moderating This Newsgroup
Date: Wed, 04 Sep 1996 08:18:17 GMT
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[e-mail] (Gus) wrote:

>The original post
>I am currently writing the proposal for the moderated group
>rec.radio.scanner.moderated .

>>My immediate concern is for if Payne wants to take THIS group.  He
>>really hasn't set up a discussion, and in fact, has actively
>>discouraged it.  To me, that has stink all over it.

>I have not seen where he has said that he wanted to take over this
>group and am unsure if he could.  I you want to discuss it do so.  but
>do not flame.  flaming gets nothing done.  except wanting people to
>have a moderated group.

I didn't flame.  If I spoke direct and blunt, that's the way
I am.  It beats mincing words and not being understood to
the other extreme.

Part was my own ignorance at the onset.  I took it to mean
he was going to take THIS group to moderated status. I am
not an expert on the ways and means of the Internet (yet).

I took it to mean that because of his attitude and the face
value of what little he did have to say.  I went on to throw
my hat into the ring, and he snubbed me.  His brand of flame
was low key, but ever there, ever present.  It hung like a
cloud.  You don't call that a flame?  Ok, but then don't
call my bluntness and getting to the point a flame.

Facts of the matter are that Payne COULD have started a
discussion and information thread and given such a serious
matter more than "a few days".  He could have led the
discussion; promoted questions and answers; and made a solid
foundation for his case.  Instead, he openly discouraged
discussion and the group's becoming INFORMED about the
matter.  I didn't like the smell of that deal from the
git-go, and exercised not only my right, but also my duty to
say so.

Hence, my directness and bluntness in evoking anwers to
questions that were genuine on my part, and probably in a
lot of others who were intimidated into not asking.

Bill Cheek
(Voicing my own dumb opinions)



From [e-mail] Thu Sep 05 21:31:22 1996
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From: [e-mail] (NYO41ed)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Open Letter to USSN; Bob Gehri; et al
Date: 4 Sep 1996 00:51:17 -0400
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RE:<<Hmmmmm.....moderating already are we?  Seems to me that the above is
a
perfect example of the very thing you constantly whine about.....sticking
your nose where it doesnt belong.  Has Mr. Van Horn developed arthritis so
that he cannot type anymore? Why do you feel that _you_ need to arrange
this meeting?
Still sore about all those bad reviews in USSN?>>>

Why not give it a rest? Sounds like you guys have nothin better to do, I
rather go pull my pud than waste time on this. Heck there's only a hanfull
of us who are still waiting for our money. Go turn the scanner on and
monitor, isn't that what the hobby is about?


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 05 21:31:23 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Armadillo)
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Subject: Re: Outboard spkr for Drake R8
Date: Sun, 01 Sep 1996 05:55:51 GMT
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On Sat, 24 Aug 1996 20:02:02 -0700, charles andrade
<[e-mail]> wrote:

>Travelin' Man wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I've received a couple bad reviews on the Drake MS-8 speaker.
>>
>> Does anyone have any suggestions for a great quality outboard
>> speaker that would work well with the Drake R8?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Wayne M.
>> [e-mail]
>
>
>Try the Radio Shack Minimus-7 speaker. It works really well on both my R8 and
 my
>RR7030.
>
>Charlie...


For the record, I have 2 of the MS-8's and like them... you must take
the reviews with a liberal dose of salt. :)

Ken


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From: [e-mail] (Roland Stiner)
Date: 02 Sep 96 12:07:00
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T>If anyone out there has a decent list of the 10-codes and Signal codes for
 >the Daytona Beach PD, please contact me via email.  I've been going nuts
 >listening to my scanner and trying to figure out what exactly the hell is
 >going on. :)

I have the same problem for my small town...

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Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Police and fire frq's for Williamsburg va..
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Any one have any links to scanner frq's for Police and fire/rescue and
or state police for Williamsburg va.???


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 05 21:31:26 1996
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From: David Wolverton <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Preamp for scanner,variable or fixed.want quality
Date: Thu, 05 Sep 1996 15:23:26 -0700
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David Wolverton wrote:
>
> Any info on preamps for scanners?I bought a vanguard preamp
> 18 yrs ago and it was great.I am getting back into scanning
> and would like to know if any other companies sell this type
> of equipment.I DO NOT want info on broadband preamps as the
> compromises made are not what I want.I would prefer 800mhz
> preamps or in the 460mhz range.I would also like a nice
> gain-type external for 800mhz if anyone makes such a thing
> Thanks for the help..
> PS the reason i got back into it was I picked up a 800xlt for
> 5 clams at a yard and now I am hooked all over again.
> Dave
Still need some help getting info
Dave


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 05 21:31:26 1996
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From: [e-mail] (HH357)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Presidential Visit - Looking for Freqs.
Date: 3 Sep 1996 07:32:55 -0400
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In article <503tq1$[e-mail]>, [e-mail]
writes:

>
>I am looking for information anyone may have about freqs. that are
>used by the Secret Service, etc. during presidential visits.  Any
>information people may have would be a great help.
>
>Thanks much.

The time to listen to usss is before he arrives.
Once he does, it all goes encrypted until "wheels-up".


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Subject: Re: Presidential Visit - Looking for Freqs.
Date: 3 Sep 1996 07:41:02 -0400
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In article <503tq1$[e-mail]>, [e-mail]
writes:

>
>I am looking for information anyone may have about freqs. that are
>used by the Secret Service, etc. during presidential visits.  Any
>information people may have would be a great help.
>
>Thanks much.

The time to listen to usss is before he arrives.
Once he does, it all goes encrypted until "wheels-up".


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 05 21:31:28 1996
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From: [e-mail] (David Horak)
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Subject: Re: Presidential Visit - Looking for Freqs.
Date: 5 Sep 1996 15:23:32 -0500
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In <50lcqe$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Jeff Goldman) w
rites:

>You might try programming in all of the local McDonald's drive-thru
>frequencies.  You never know when fat-boy will get a craving for five or
>six Big Macs.

If there are any sex shops in your town you might check to see if any
of them use business band freqs.   :-)

Heck, you might even check out a few savings & loan freqs!!!  :-)

David


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 05 21:31:29 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Steve Kennedy)
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Subject: Re: Pro-2006 volume problem
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[e-mail] wrote:

>Strange problem - my 2006 scanner has had a volume drop that is
>specific to the 800 MHz band.  I have to turn the volume up
>considerably higher that on other bands to reach the same volume.

>Any ideas?  I absolutely do not want to send it to RS for repair;
>don't trust them to send it back with the 800 band still accessable.

>thanks,
>jeff

Do you have the WFM mode set for 800Mhz ops instead of NFM?  Check the
display.  This would explain the volume drop.

Steve



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Strange problem - my 2006 scanner has had a volume drop that is
specific to the 800 MHz band.  I have to turn the volume up
considerably higher that on other bands to reach the same volume.

Any ideas?  I absolutely do not want to send it to RS for repair;
don't trust them to send it back with the 800 band still accessable.

thanks,
jeff



From [e-mail] Thu Sep 05 21:31:31 1996
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From: Mark <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: Pro-2006 volume problem
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[e-mail] wrote:
>
> Strange problem - my 2006 scanner has had a volume drop that is
> specific to the 800 MHz band.  I have to turn the volume up
> considerably higher that on other bands to reach the same volume.
> I had the same thing happen.  Turns out I had accidently bumped the mode
switch so that it was receiving in WFM.  Easy enough to check.


MArk


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From: jg <[e-mail]>
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Subject: pro-2026 conversion
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can anyone point me in the direction to get the conversion for
a RS pro-2026.thanks in advance.


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 05 21:31:32 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Bill Cheek)
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Subject: Re: PRO-2035 Mods?
Date: Wed, 04 Sep 1996 15:17:58 GMT
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Tom Sledge <[e-mail]> wrote:

>Any known mods for this Scanner?

Dozens.  What do you want to do to yours?

Bill



From [e-mail] Thu Sep 05 21:31:33 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Bill Cheek)
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Subject: Re: PRO-2035 Mods?
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Karl Schultz <[e-mail]> wrote:

>Tom Sledge wrote:
>>
>> Any known mods for this Scanner?
>
>I'd look in ftp: oak.oakland.edu in /pub/hamradio/mods.

You'd strike out, pal.

So why  give him the old run-around?  One, there is nothing
there for the PRO-2035, and two, what is there, is stuff of
fairly low degree.  Basic stuff.  Stuff that fits into short
ASCII files written by half-literates.

Nothing for the PRO-2035, though.

Bill Cheek
Scannist Extraordinaire
(Telling it like it is, even if it hurts)



From [e-mail] Thu Sep 05 21:31:34 1996
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From: Karl Schultz <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: PRO-2035 Mods?
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Tom Sledge wrote:
>
> Any known mods for this Scanner?

I'd look in ftp: oak.oakland.edu in /pub/hamradio/mods.


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From: Karl Schultz <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: PRO-2035 Mods?
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Bill Cheek wrote:
>
> Karl Schultz <[e-mail]> wrote:
>
> >Tom Sledge wrote:
> >>
> >> Any known mods for this Scanner?
> >
> >I'd look in ftp: oak.oakland.edu in /pub/hamradio/mods.
>
> You'd strike out, pal.

Your're right.  I should have checked first.

> So why  give him the old run-around?  One, there is nothing
> there for the PRO-2035, and two, what is there, is stuff of
> fairly low degree.  Basic stuff.  Stuff that fits into short
> ASCII files written by half-literates.

The source I cited has been useful to me and others for quite awhile,
despite whatever opinion you may have.
I thought that others looking for (other) mods might think so too.

Perhaps you know of a better repository for mods?????


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 05 21:31:35 1996
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From: Louis <[e-mail]>
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Subject: pro-2039
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Does anyone know of any mods for the radio shack pro-2039 scanner?





From [e-mail] Thu Sep 05 21:31:37 1996
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Subject: Pro-29 Mods
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Wanted, any mods to the Radio Shack Pro-29 Scanner.

Thanks in advance!


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--
jpaquin
pro-43 7 months old/cell.mod./box/manual no scratches
225.00 709-944-5268 andre



From [e-mail] Thu Sep 05 21:31:39 1996
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From: [e-mail] (WalterTA)
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Subject: Re: PRO-62 MODS
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>Any known mods for this Hand-held?

To do what, restore cellular ?

On the assumption this is cell blocked in the same way as all the new PRO-
series (hardcoded in the main CPU) you would  have to buy the main Chip
used in the UK version and replace the one you have. Not an easy job.

Same would apply to the PRO-2035 you ask about.

Take a look at http://www.demon.co.uk/javiation/

WTA


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 05 21:31:40 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Daniel M. Conti)
Subject: PROBE Software / 2035 - OPTO535 Concerns - HELP!
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I have been using the latest version of PROBE software with my Radio
Shack Pro-2035 - OPTO 535 setup with much success....

HOWEVER, I understande that there is a code available for the PROBE
software that would unlock the cellular portion of the 800 Mhz band.

Being a law- abiding person, and also entering many numbers into the
program dailty, I'm concerned that I might accidently enter this code,
and therefore break the law.

SO, I would appreciate it if somone could E-Mail me this code, so I
will be sure to make note of it, and stay clear of it in my endeavors.

I ask for E-Mail as I would not like some unscrupulous party to see it
and break the law.

Any and all help offered in this matter will be appreciated, and my
thanks in advance.....!
[e-mail]
Compuserve - 71242,1774     Amateur Radio - N2TYB
Ridgefield, New Jersey



From [e-mail] Thu Sep 05 21:31:40 1996
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Subject: PROBE software Password......Sheesshh!
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Unfortunately, in a comparison of RPOBE, SCANCAT and SCANSTAR computer
controlling software, I find that PROBE is the only one requiriing a
PASSWORD, before you can enter the code.

You guessed it....of the three, I have PROBE!

If anyone out there using PROBE has this password, I would appreciate
getting it via E-MAIL only, please.

Do not suggest getting it from PROBE'S author, as I already tried
that, and was unsuccessful.


[e-mail]
Compuserve - 71242,1774     Amateur Radio - N2TYB
Ridgefield, New Jersey



From [e-mail] Thu Sep 05 21:31:42 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Caress)
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In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] says...
>
>Is it DIS kone or disKONEnee?
>This is a life or death situation, need to know ASAP. tia
>
>--

Well, around the Midwest (which by the way produces more national news
commentators, etc. than any other U.S. Region) we pronounce it

DIS-kone.

"Dis-KOH-nee" is the famous Italian dancer from the late-1970's, known for
his lime-green leisure suit and purple platform shoes.  Only rivaled by John
Travolta in sheer disco-power......

Seriously, the antenna gets its name from its two patterns;  the "disk"
formed by the top elements, and the "cone" formed by the downward diagonal
elements.
>
>My Mom's Net rules:
>No running on the Net with scissors!
>Don't read emale from strangers.
>Let your sister get online for awhile, dammit!
>Shut up, I'm on the modem!    [e-mail]
>http://www.mainelink.net/~writer/poster/Poster.html
>
>



From [e-mail] Thu Sep 05 21:31:42 1996
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From: [e-mail] (William L. Hadley)
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Subject: Re: Radio Related Web Sites -to be deleted
Date: 5 Sep 1996 12:37:17 GMT
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In article <50mf1d$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] says...
>
>In <[e-mail]> Brett Miller - N7OLQ
<[e-mail]> writes:
>
>>I am going to remove the following sites from my list unless someone can
>>confirm that they still exist, or have a new address.  If you can get to
>>any of these sites let me know.
>
>>http://www.yab.com/~macgyver/scanner.html - Arizona Fire Freqs

  http://www.netwrx.net/macgyver/scanner.html

>>http://www.flex.net/u/odium/scan.shtml - Fed. & Texas Freqs & more

  This page was discontinued.


                    Bill Hadley  --  [e-mail]
         Bill's Monitoring Page  --  http://www.snm.com/MrBill/Monitor/




From [e-mail] Thu Sep 05 21:31:43 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Dr Pepper)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Radio schack pro -43
Date: Tue, 03 Sep 1996 19:58:16 GMT
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[e-mail] (Bill Cheek) wrote:

>David <[e-mail]> wrote:

>>Can this scanner be modified to receive cell phones ?

>Only if it has a date code of 2A4 or prior.

HHMMmmmmm, , ,   I thought it was 3A4, Bill ?

>The date code is a little
>white sticker inside the battery compartment.

>If you got the PRO-43 new after March, 1994, then it probably will not
>be modifiable for cellular.

>Rgds,

>Bill

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10 - 2 - 4




From [e-mail] Thu Sep 05 21:31:45 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Bill Cheek)
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Subject: Re: Radio schack pro -43
Date: Wed, 04 Sep 1996 08:19:45 GMT
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[e-mail] (Dr Pepper) wrote:

>>>Can this scanner be modified to receive cell phones ?

>>Only if it has a date code of 2A4 or prior.

>HHMMmmmmm, , ,   I thought it was 3A4, Bill ?

In theeory, maybe it is.  In practice, PRO-43's made in
March, 1994, would not have been shipped and ready for sale
in this country until after April.  The manufacturers had
plenty of notice of the TDDRA law, so compliance was nailed
down and implemented such that 2A4 seems the most certain
cutoff date.

It may well be that some 3A4's can be modified for cellular,
but, but I am sure that most are not. Jerry Dallal, in his
PRO-43 FAQ, points out:

> So far, the  earliest  reported  date  of  manufacture  of
> a nonmodifiable unit is 3A4 (March, 1994).  There have been *no*
> reports of a modifiable US 3A4 unit.
>    THE PRESENCE OR ABSENCE OF A FINAL 'A' IN THE FCC-ID
>    IS A DEFINITIVE WAY OF DETERMINING WHETHER A PRO-43
>    CAN BE MODIFIED FOR EXTENDED FREQUENCY RECEPTION.
>    IF THE FCC-ID IS 'AA020-300',  THE UNIT IS MODIFIABLE.
>    IF THE FCC-ID IS 'AA020-300A', THE UNIT IS NOT MODIFIABLE.

I have no evidence to refute his statement and plenty to
support it, so 2A4 or earlier is the safe bet.  3A4 and up
are trouble.

Rgds,

Bill




From [e-mail] Thu Sep 05 21:31:46 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Pat McCarty)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Radio Shack
Date: 3 Sep 1996 09:33:28 -0700
Organization: CRL Dialup Internet Access
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BAYCITVIDGRP ([e-mail]) wrote:
: In <50f7ib$[e-mail]> [e-mail](Donald
: Andrew Cummins) writes:
: >
: >In <50angd$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Racer0069)
: >writes:
: >>
: >>I'm really tired of this catalog thing with Radio Shack!  Who cares!
: !
: >!!
: >>!
: >>
: >>Why not go to Sears and JC Pennys and see if they'll give you a free
: >>catalog!
: >
: >5$'s for a JCP catalog

:     Spiegel's catalogue will set you back  $6... but they give
:     you a $6 credit for purchasing item...so what are you waiting
:     for...Radio Shack?

:    bill

As of last year (around September), if you bought the RS catalog for
however much it was (3 bucks I think) they would give you credit to
purchase that amount in any RS.

Although when I bought an HTX-202, I bargained for actually 3 catalogs.
FREE! =)

--
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From [e-mail] Thu Sep 05 21:31:47 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Marty Jonas)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Radio Shack
Date: Wed, 04 Sep 1996 12:10:57 GMT
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[e-mail] (Ken Jones) wrote:

>>>Pat McCarty wrote 48 lines on the subject: Re: Radio Shack; here's
>>>some of it:

>>>>As of last year (around September), if you bought the RS catalog for
>>>>however much it was (3 bucks I think) they would give you credit to
>>>>purchase that amount in any RS.
>>>>


>>>This year's cats are out and free.  No coupons.  No trouble.  Gotta
>>>write a ticket for it though, we need your name and address for our
>>>mailing list.

>>>The list is not sold.

>>>HTX 202 on sale at 199...


In all the years I've been going to RS I have NEVER received 1 piece
of mail from them.

So why do they STILL ask for your name & address???

Marty





From [e-mail] Thu Sep 05 21:31:48 1996
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From: [e-mail] (RfSam)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: RADIO SHACK PRO-2035 1000 channel SCANNER
Date: 4 Sep 1996 07:38:55 -0400
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RADIO SHACK PRO-2035 DESKTOP SCANNER
1000 MEMORY CHANNELS
COVERAGE IS FROM    25-520MHZ and 760-1300MHZ  (excluding cellular)
EXCELLENT CONDITION
$265


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 05 21:31:48 1996
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From: [e-mail] (RfSam)
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RADIO SHACK PRO-2035 DESKTOP SCANNER
1000 MEMORY CHANNELS
COVERAGE IS FROM    25-520MHZ and 760-1300MHZ  (excluding cellular)
EXCELLENT CONDITION
$265


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 05 21:31:49 1996
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From: [e-mail] (chainsaw)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner,alt.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Radio Shack Pro-26 on sale for $376 (Canadian)?
Date: Tue, 03 Sep 1996 16:58:46 GMT
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Bill Beekman <[e-mail]> wrote:

>Michael R. Erb wrote:
>>
>> Apparently, Radio Shack (Canada) has the Pro-26 on sale right now for $379
>> Canadian which is roughly $276 U.S.
>>
>> This sounds like a pretty darn good price. Isn't it true that the Canadian
>> version of the Pro-26 can be modified for cellular coverage?
>>
>> Michael
>>
>> --
>> =================================================================
>>                   Michael R. Erb ([e-mail])
>>                Michael 'E' Mobile Sound, Ithaca, NY
>>                      http://www.erb.baka.com
>Canada does not have an Electronic's Privacy Law.  UnBlocked scanners
>are legal there.  But RS's near the US borders tend not to stock
>unblocked.

>--
>Go that way, really fast.  If something gets in your way, TURN!...

>                     <Charles DaMar>
Do any Radio Shacks in Canada stock them??
I live 6 hrs. from the nearest border and you won't
get one in any RS around here.



From [e-mail] Thu Sep 05 21:31:50 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Drew Durigan)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Radio Shack's 1997 Catalog Policy
Date: 1 Sep 1996 18:48:53 GMT
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This year, they must be leaving it up to the discretion of the individual
store managers (now THERE would be a first...Radio Shack Corporate in
Fort Worth allowing their managers the ability to decide ANYTHING on
their own!)

Or are they?


I just returned from my friendly neighborhood Radio Shack store here in
Orlando.  I bought approximately $6 worth of parts and requested a
catalog.  The clerk informed me that he did have to "wand" the catalog,
but that there would be no charge.  He then proceeded to scan the catalog,
 but then manually changed the price charged to 0.00!  Cool!

Now, the $10,000 question: has Tandy Corp FINALLY seen the light with
regards to customer complaints about being charged for their catalogs, or
was this just a smart soul who had ingeniously figured out a way around a
bad corporate policy that aggrivates his customers?

-Drew in Sunny Central Florida-



From [e-mail] Thu Sep 05 21:31:51 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Susan)
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Subject: Radios Forsale
Date: 4 Sep 1996 09:10:29 -0400
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I'm selling the following:

AOR 2500 - $450 obo
and a
TRIDENT 4500 -$450 obo (which is a AOR2500)

Both are in excellent condition.
Full Cellular, AM/FM/NFM/SSB


ICOM 2GXAT 2m extended RX - $225

2 RS TRC-207 40 ch handheld CBs - $85 for both.

Bearcat 560xlt 16 ch scanner - $60

E-mail any questions.

Richard Reider


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 05 21:31:52 1996
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From: <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Regency Digital Flight Scan scanner
Date: 2 Sep 1996 12:27:14 GMT
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Bought a scanner at a tag sale, but have no instructions, and have not been
able to reprogram the scan frequencies. Looking for a photostat of the manual,
or info as to where I might procur one.
Thanks.
            Tim



From [e-mail] Thu Sep 05 21:31:53 1996
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From: [e-mail] (NYO41ed)
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Subject: Regency Touch 16K
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Are there any old Regency Touch 16 channel scanners still in service? I
wish I still had mine for old times sake.


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 05 21:31:54 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Clint Bradford)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: RS Catalog
Date: Wed,  4 Sep 1996 05:05:00 GMT
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>>I guess I'm now an "insider" so here's my info.. Last years catalogs
>>had a $3 price but had a $3 off coupon on them.  This year, it's $3
>>but actually free unless they think you're never going to be seen
>>again. You're supposed to give it to all regular and repeat customers.


I walked into a RS last week. Picked up a mere eight dollars worth of
stuff. Asked the salesman - whom I had never seen before in my life - if
the new catalogs were in yet. He said that they were. We walked to the
cash register, he reached down and pulled out a catalog from under the
counter, said, "They're three bucks, but I'll take it off your bill."

Unsolicited - I didn't ask a damned thing of him. He didn't know me -
and he made the offer BEFORE he asked for my name/address for the
computer.

-Clint Bradford


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 05 21:31:55 1996
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Clint Bradford wrote:
>
> >>I guess I'm now an "insider" so here's my info.. Last years catalogs
> >>had a $3 price but had a $3 off coupon on them.  This year, it's $3
> >>but actually free unless they think you're never going to be seen
> >>again. You're supposed to give it to all regular and repeat customers.
>
> I walked into a RS last week. Picked up a mere eight dollars worth of
> stuff. Asked the salesman - whom I had never seen before in my life - if
> the new catalogs were in yet. He said that they were. We walked to the
> cash register, he reached down and pulled out a catalog from under the
> counter, said, "They're three bucks, but I'll take it off your bill."
>
> Unsolicited - I didn't ask a damned thing of him. He didn't know me -
> and he made the offer BEFORE he asked for my name/address for the
> computer.
>
> -Clint Bradford

Unfortunately, that is not universal.  I went in to buy a repeater
atlas, and asked for a catalog. I was charged full price for the
catalog.  As the saying goes, it's not the money-it's the principle of
the thing.  After all the money I've spent at Rat Shack over the last
25-odd years, I should not have to pay for a catalog-especially since I
use it to obtain stock numbers to help the salesmen out.  How about your
views?  send them to Radio Shack:

[e-mail]

Otherwise, expect a hard line approach to catalogs in the future by the
salespersons (NO Exceptions to the fee) and higher fees.

Thanks for everyone's help!

'73 de JIM N2ZZ


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Thanks for the info. on the RS catalog. There latest flyer (received
yesterday) offers a free catalog if you bring the flyer to there store. I
did, was given the catalog, Iasked if they wanted the flyer and told no, so
I guess I could get another one for a friend if I need to.



From [e-mail] Thu Sep 05 21:31:57 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Garry Hobart)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: RS Mods here!
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If you need RS Mods check out this page. It is one of the best scanner
pages on the Net.   http://www.zianet.com/kc5kto/mods.html

Garry
----------------------------------------------
Principles aren't of much account anyway, except at election time.
After that you hang them up to let them season.
Mark Twain (1835-1910)


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 05 21:31:58 1996
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From: [e-mail]
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: RS Mods here!
Date: Tue, 03 Sep 1996 22:39:50 -0800
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I second the motion. I've used kc5kt0 mod page many, many times for
reference. Even set up my laptop in the garage one spring afternoon so I
could follow directions when I modded two pro-39s. Happy to report no
solder drippings on the laptop. Hats off to kc5tc0.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
 In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Garry
Hobart) wrote:

> If you need RS Mods check out this page. It is one of the best scanner
> pages on the Net.   http://www.zianet.com/kc5kto/mods.html
>
> Garry
> ----------------------------------------------
> Principles aren't of much account anyway, except at election time.
> After that you hang them up to let them season.
> Mark Twain (1835-1910)


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 05 21:31:59 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Bryson Leidich)
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Subject: Re: RS Pro-2036 Info Please
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On Mon, 26 Aug 1996 23:12:29 GMT, [e-mail] (Armadillo)
wrote:

>On 25 Aug 1996 03:48:33 GMT, [e-mail] (Peter M. Baran) wrote:
>
>>I am currently looking at possibly buying a PRO-2036 from the local
>>"Shack". First of all, I guess these radios are made by Realistic for
>>Canada & Australia only, & I haven't been able to find anything about
>>them on the 'Net.
>>The appealing option of this radio is the built in CTCSS board. The
>>radio features 200 channels &  sells for $529 (Canadian $). I'm
>
>
>Peter-
>
>The 2036 was also released in the US... It's a BC 890 that has been
>modified slightly to take care of a couple of major problems. It's an
>OK radio, but not a great one.
>
>The just released 2045 ($349 US) also has a CTCSS option and is a MUCH
>better scanner. There is also the BC 9000 which may be available in
>Canada for not much more money than the 2036......?
>
>Good luck.
>
>Ken

Agree 0n 2045 purchase.  I just picked up a 2036 at a RS Tent sale on
clearance, so I suspect they are being phased out.  I paid $149 for
it.  I didn't need a primary scanner as I have a 2006 that I really
like.  The newer model will meet your needs and probably prove to be a
generally better piece.

Best to you

Bryson


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 05 21:32:00 1996
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From: "Ron L." <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: RS Pro-29, yes or no ???
Date: Thu, 05 Sep 1996 13:35:14 -0400
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Hello,

Just found out that my local Radio Shack carries the Pro-29 with 60
channels and 800 mhz (cellular blocked) for $149.  The sales person
offered to convert it to full cellular for a few dollars more.

I am a newbie to the scanner world, but this sounds like a pretty good
deal to me.  What do you think ??  Any comments ???

I will check this post from time to time, but I would also appreciate
e-mail.

Thanks,

Ron L.
[e-mail]


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 05 21:32:01 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Claude Alan Cartee)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: RS-2042 & Opto 456 board...
Date: 04 Sep 1996 19:23:16 GMT
Organization: cisco Systems Inc., Menlo Park, CA, USA
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I have some questions regarding the operation of the RS-2045 with the
Optoeletronics board installed...

1. How difficult was the installation?  Did it require any surface
mount soldering?  Any soldering at all?  Did it reqiure any holes
drilled into the unit?

2. Does installation effect scanner use with computer
off/disconnected?  (For example does the CTSS option work?)

3. Exactly how does CTSS work?  Does it control scanning, or does it
simply indicate received CTSS tone?  (And require some external
control program to resume scanning?)  Which CTSS tones may be
programmed?  Is CTSS tone displayed to scanner's built-in LCD or is it
transmitted via serial port?

4. Does computer interface have the ability to load scanner's internal
memory?  (i.e. Can I download frequencies, disconnect computer, cycle
power on scanner and still retain programmed frequencies?)

5. How is DTMF decode presented?  Via built-in LCD or via serial port?

6. Does the 535 do anything to the allocation of channels and banks of
the 2042?  (i.e. Does it split up those monster 100 channel banks into
something more reasonable?)




From [e-mail] Thu Sep 05 21:32:02 1996
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From: "Paul M." <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Sacramento Frequencies
Date: 1 Sep 1996 17:30:35 GMT
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I live in Sacramento, CA. and I'm in search of the new frequencies for our
County Sheriff frequencies. They recently switched to a 800 trunking
system. Anyone know any of these or where I could get them?
Please respond by E-mail  if possible.
Thanks in advance,
Paul M.

--
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Enjoy Today Because It's Tommorow's Yesterday
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                     [e-mail]


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 05 21:32:03 1996
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From: Joe Giraudo <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Sandiego Waterfront Question
Date: Thu, 05 Sep 1996 06:51:28 -0700
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On a recent trip to San Diego, I noted what looked like HF dipoles on the
roofs of charter boat offices.  I assmue they use an HF freq for over the
horizon comms.  Any ideas on freqs used?  Tks  DE N7JEH, Joe


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 05 21:32:03 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Andy Domonkos)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Scan-L
Date: 4 Sep 1996 11:40:36 GMT
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Clay Irving ([e-mail]) wrote:
:
: It certainly appears the entire scanning community has completely lost
: their minds...
:

That's pretty accurate Clay.

Andy



From [e-mail] Thu Sep 05 21:32:04 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Clint Bradford)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: SCAN-L (Was Re: [Fwd: ])
Date: Wed,  4 Sep 1996 04:40:00 GMT
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>>"...A republisher of defamatory statements is equally liable with
>>the original party..."

This gross over-simplification is patently ridiculous. The writer knows
nothing about the law.


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 05 21:32:05 1996
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From: David B Smith <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Scan-L listserv
Date: Wed, 04 Sep 1996 00:53:20 -0700
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CC: james, Donovan, III

Ive been out in the Internet for about 1 week now.
And I have heard that there is a Listserv called SCAN-L.
Is it possible that someone can give me the Email Address to
subscribe to that list

                      Thanks in advance

               Email [e-mail]

                           JD


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 05 21:32:06 1996
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From: [e-mail] (DSchopp)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Scanners For Sale
Date: 2 Sep 1996 22:14:58 GMT
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X-NETCOM-Date: Mon Sep 02  5:14:58 PM CDT 1996

I have the following scanners for sale. Price includes shipping.

Radio Shack Pro 46 hand held scanner. 100 channels. Has cell mod to
restore missing portion of 800 mHz band. Comes with rubber ducky antenna,
AC adaptor, and manual. Radio has built in battery charger. $175.

Radio Shack Pro 2035 base scanner. 1000 channels. Formerly RS top of the
line scanner. Covers military air band and can be computer controlled with
the addition of an inteface. $250

If interested please email: [e-mail]

Dan Schopp


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 05 21:32:07 1996
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From: [e-mail] (darkstar)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Scanning Consequences of Move?
Date: 4 Sep 1996 17:23:42 GMT
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Uh, what are the scanning consequences of the three story house I just
purchased in the chi-chi (and more busy) section of town?  It is covered
in metal (not aluminum, I don't think) siding.  (The kind that looks JUST
like white wood till you get up to it and touch it.)  *I'm* not getting
out there on the roof and electrocute myself, but I also listen to
shortwave.  I don't transmit.  I have a radio shack discone antenna and a
couple of different indoor (simple) shortwave antennas.  I also have a
magnet mount scanner antenna.  It might be fun to stick that thing outside
on the metal siding :-)  Also, if I get one of those small satellite
dishes you don't suppose I could hide it in the attic do you?  I didn't
think you'd say yes :-(  This is the chi-chi section of town, and my
little hobby is to remain my little secret!  Should I take my little toys
on the inspection and check?  really all I was wondering for now is
whether that siding will interfere with my fun.  :-)  Or if it will
help...maybe I can connect it and use it somehow!!!



From [e-mail] Thu Sep 05 21:32:07 1996
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From: [e-mail](barry felstein)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Scantenna Performance Problem?
Date: 2 Sep 1996 13:14:30 GMT
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First I guess I'd check the cable for shorts/breaks.If it's ok,then I'd
replace the little matching transformer.I've messed with a lot of them over
the last 30 yrs.,and they are real pieces of crap,a lot of new ones are
bad,right out of the wrapper.My discone(a real bad antenna)beats the rod
out by a mile even when its in the attic of a 1 story house.A little ground
plane made for 800 mhz is vastly superior just holding it over my head!Good
Luck.....Barry


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 05 21:32:08 1996
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From: kj7qy@LOCALNAME
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Seattle Area Ferries
Date: Tue, 03 Sep 1996 20:07:56 GMT
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Greetings all,
I am interested in monitoring the ferries in the Seattle area, but as of yet I
 have not
been able to figure out what frequencies they use.  Any suggestions?

Regards,
-scurrie-


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From: "Glenn Hansen" <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Seattle Area Ferries
Date: 4 Sep 1996 05:06:29 GMT
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kj7qy@LOCALNAME wrote in article <b03.9/21/95M56.38056708@LOCALNAME>...
> Greetings all,
> I am interested in monitoring the ferries in the Seattle area, but as of
yet I have not
> been able to figure out what frequencies they use.  Any suggestions?
>
> Regards,
> -scurrie-

Found this in my archives. Hope it helps

From: [e-mail] (Mark Saran)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Washington state Ferry Freqs
Date: Fri, 28 Jul 1995 12:31:51 -0700

Whidbey's and San Juan terminals have switched over to the new statewide
DOT system.  The Simplex freqs that are used at the docks are:

Dock     852.0875
Boat 1   852.8375
Boat 2   851.7875

The other terminals are still using the old freq of 151.04.  I expect them
to switch over to the new system although the range on the new 800
portables is very poor and the ferry system is aware of the problem, so
what comes next is anyone's guess.

I'm not sure if or when system will stop using ch #79  156.975






From [e-mail] Thu Sep 05 21:32:10 1996
From: [e-mail] (Brad Dennis)
Subject: RE: Seattle Area Ferries
Date: 4 Sep 96 18:55:36 -0700
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You might take a peek at www.wolfenet.com/~daydream

It is a great web page of seattle area frequencies.  Ferries are
listed up there in the www bbs.

J
-Brad


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 05 21:32:11 1996
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From: "Patrick D. Lukens" <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: alt.radio.scanner,rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Sick and tired of B.C? was Pro2035 Mods
Date: Wed, 04 Sep 1996 12:02:55 -0700
Organization: Arizona State University
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Bill Cheek wrote:
>Yes, but WHAT do YOU WANT to do, is the more appropriate question?
>There are dozens of things that can be done to the PRO-2035, but no
>"shopping list" exactly.

In response, Jlkutugata wrote:
> Alright...Just like the rest of you, I have decided to join the rebellion
> against Cheek.
>
> B.C. will spend his time
> answering it in his sarcastic manner!

Uh, pardon me, but what sarcasm are you referring to?  All I see is Bill
pointing out that there are several mods.  Have you checked out his web
page?  Are you one of those people who is upset because he expects to
make a profit off of his work?

Yes, these flame wars are getting silly, but Cheek isn't the only
problem.  People like you who read into what he says when he ISN'T
contributing to the flame wars are just as bad.

Now I guess it is time to unsubscribe...  This is just plain
intolerable......


--
--Patrick

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From [e-mail] Thu Sep 05 21:32:12 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Caress)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: TECH QUESTION:  Realistic PRO-2006 performance seems weak....
Date: 3 Sep 1996 13:07:45 GMT
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I own a six year-old Realistic Pro-2006 scanner.  The diode has been clipped
to restore cellular (although of course I NEVER listen to cellular or other
private communications in violation of the ECPA).

Recently the scanner seems somewhat less sensitive.  Is this atmospheric or
should I send the radio to the Service Center to be tuned and tweaked?  Are
there components inside the radio which might have fatigued over the course
of six years (capacitors which may have started to go sour, etc.?)  I have
taken very good care of the scanner;  it has never been subjected to either
climatic or electrical (i.e. lightning) extremes.  Any ideas?

Thanks,

Paul
[e-mail]



From [e-mail] Thu Sep 05 21:32:13 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Bill Cheek)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: TECH QUESTION:  Realistic PRO-2006 performance seems weak....
Date: Wed, 04 Sep 1996 08:19:17 GMT
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"Glenn Hansen" <[e-mail]> wrote:

>> Recently the scanner seems somewhat less sensitive.

> First thing I would check is the attenuation switch on
> the back. It has bit many a person with the Pro-2xxx series.
> If that isn't it I would ask Bill Cheek for his thoughts.

Dammit, Hansen, you beat me to the punch.  I had a nice two
page missive all prepared to go, in effect telling him to
check the ATT switch on the rear panel, and there you tell
'im in a few poignant words.

Seriously.....I was hot to trot on that one, because it's
bitten me more times than I can count.  I'm so damn gunshy
of that 10 dB Attenuator now that I automatically feel
around back of the scanner whenever I turn the prick on.

I'd lay 2:1 odds that's his problem.  But if not, make it
1:1 that the center conductor contacts on the BNC connector
have gotten separated, worn, or even broken off.  Odds are
about 10:1 against it being anything inside the scanner.

He should point a jaundiced eye toward the antenna, too, if
nothing else proves out.  Or even damaged coax, maybe.

Humbly,

Bill




From [e-mail] Thu Sep 05 21:32:14 1996
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Subject: Thanks Bill Cheek For your help!!!!
Date: Thu, 05 Sep 1996 05:11:40 GMT
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From [e-mail] Thu Sep 05 21:32:15 1996
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From: [e-mail] (RPColtra)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: The WWF presents, Cheek vs. Mackey
Date: 4 Sep 1996 12:32:46 -0400
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Hello, This is Vince McMahon coming at you live from Hazzard County.
Tonight we present the greatest match of all time, Captain Scanner Bill
Cheek Vs Mr.Manly Mackey. This match is one fall, no
disqualifications....and here we go...Wild Bill flys out of his corner ,
smashing Mackey with a HUGE flying elbow...but Mackey counters with a
headbutt to the groin, jeez, that musta hurt!!!! Mackey is now kicking the
life out of Wild Bill, he looks hurt, he looks dazed!!!!! Wild Bills
manager the lovely Mrs Cheek is screaming on the outside.....Wild Bill is
dazed!!!! and The Manly one is really soaking up the boos from the crowd,
loving every minute of it!!! Manly is flipping the crowd off, and they are
going nuts!!! Mackey climbs the turnbuckle and flys off, dropping the big
elbow to Wild Bills noggin!! Bill is hurt, there is blood oozing out of
his nose....Mackey has this one all sewn up!!! Mackey Throws Wild Bill out
of the ring and his manager goes running!! Can u hear the crowd booing???
Wild Bill is out!!! Mackey is strutting around like a giant peacock!!!
Bill staggers to his feet, Mackey jumps out of the ring to continue the
beating!!! OH NO!!! WILD BILL HAS CLOCKED MACKEY WITH HIS SUPER MODIFIED
2005!!!!!!!! IT HIT HIM SO HARD IT BLEW TO BITS!!!!!(hope he has another
one!!)  MACKEY IS OUT COLD!!!!!!!!!! WILD BILL CLIMBS INTO THE RING JUST
AS MACKEY IS COUNTED OUT !!! THE WINNER AND NEW WWF CHAMPION,,,,WILD BILL
CHEEK!!!!!!!!!



Hope y'all enjoyed it....gotta go catch them damn Duke Boys-Roscoe P.
Coltrane!!!


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 05 21:32:18 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Ken Koller)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Thinking of purchasing a handheld scanner
Date: 2 Sep 1996 16:02:54 -0700
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I had a BC200XLT for a number of years before it took a dump and died on
me. I loved it and I really want to get it fixed, what I like about that
scanner is that it has the seperate battery pack so you can buy a extra
one or two and swap them out when needed, I dunno if you can still get
them though. Also, I really liked the fact that the first channel of each
bank is a priority channel when the bank is activated, and channel 1 is
always a priority channel regardless. It also has the instant weather
channel button which if you're in an area prone to weather calmities,
it's great. It also has the standard search features.

Some of the drawbacks of that scanner is that it's big, compared to the
newer handhelds at least. It  only has the ni-cads so when the batteries
die, and you don't have a charger handy, unless you have an extra pack,
your S.O.L. I'm a press photographer and I beat the crap out of it, and
it held up well, and it's easy to work on yourself.

After that one died I went and bought a PRO-60, which has been a
love-hate relationship. I just got mine back from repair for the third
time, the A/C jack input broke twice then I had a problem with the volume
knob. I haven't had the thing in my hands since May when I put it in,
luckily Rat Shack let me borrow a loaner till I got it back.

The things that I like about it are it has programmable priority so you
can select any channel to be the priority fequency. This helps alot in my
line of work becuase I can just switch over from Ventura Fire to Oxnard
to LACoFD to whatever I need. It also has military a/c capability which
is cool, it's nice to have at airshows and if you're close to a miltary
base like I am. It's also nice and small, really compact. And it runs on
AAs, which is nice when the thing dies in the middle of the night on a
brushfire and you just dig into the bag and grab 6 more. The scan speed
of 50 per second is nice too.

On the bad side, you can only have one priority channel, which for me is
one of those catch 22s. I like to set the FD response channel as one
priority and their dispatch as another. I hoping mine is just a lemon or
else it doesn't take much abuse. It also is kinda complicated in the
search mode, there's a couple different ways to do it, but I don't use
that much so maybe it's just me. All in all, though not a bad scanner.

--
Ken Koller   [e-mail]
Fireline Images, Fire/Rescue/EMS Photography
http://www.islandnet.com/~waynej/Ken_Koller/Fireline.html
"Underwater the fish don't stink."


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 05 21:32:19 1996
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From: [e-mail](George L. Vetterle)
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Subject: Re: To "Judge" John Mackey
Date: 1 Sep 1996 21:22:48 GMT
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In <50c2qd$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Malex007)
writes:
>
>Ironic that you find fault in my telling people to talk scanners or
shut
>up by in turn telling me to shut up, don't you think? Let's see--it's
okay
>for you to do it but not me, is that how it works?
>
>Like I said: You have something to say about scanners, say it.
Anything
>else that you have an opinion on is irrelevant, not only to me but to
>everyone else in the group.

In my E-MAIL RESPONSE to your tirade, nowhere did I tell you to shut
up.  I CHALLENGED you to make me shut up.  Since you have chosen not to
keep it to e-mail, I will answer your post in like to show everyone
else in the group, who you claim to speak for, that you lie from both
sides of your mouth.

You have the right to express your opinion, just like I or anyone else
does but if you are going to lie, I will take you to task for it.  If
you would like me to post my original reply to you, for all the world
to see, I would be glad to do so.  It's your call.


--
George L. Vetterle
[e-mail]

"Badges?  We ain't got no badges!  We don't need no badges!
I don't have to show you any stinking badges!" -Alfonso Bedoya
(Gold Hat), THE TREASURE OF THE SIERRA MADRE, WB (1948)


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 05 21:32:20 1996
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From: Ralph Kramdon <[e-mail]>
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HEY GUYS,  WHY DON'T SOMEONE START A REC.JOHN.MACKEY GROUP and take all
this SHIT there?!!!!


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 05 21:32:21 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Emarit Ranu)
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Mendoza ([e-mail]) wrote:
:   To Whom It May Concern:
:
:   To start, I thought this file was a big host. And another thing that
: kept me                                   ^^^^

        It never ceases to amaze me how many errors there are
        in the "get rich quick schemes."

--
        -Emarit Ranu, KG0CQ 73's  [e-mail]
        Electrical Engineering     Colorado State University
        All generalizations are bad.     Censorship:  ######
        _._  __.  _____  _._.  __._


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 05 21:32:21 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Michael Fenech)
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Subject: Re: Toronto Air Show Frequencies needed.
Date: 3 Sep 1996 20:15:02 GMT
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On Sun, 1 Sep 1996 22:29:00 GMT, [e-mail] (RON ROTH) wrote:

> I happened to be at Pearson/Toronto Int'l Airport Sat afternoon
> and noticed the Snowbirds taking off from runway 15 and later land
> on runway 06 left.  They were using the regular commercial DEP and
> ARR frequencies.  I had 245.750 programmed in my scanner but didn't
> pick up any activity there, and so far I haven't heard anything on
> 272.100 either, though there was lots of activity on 123.100, and
> also 234.800 and 253.100.

I heard the Snowbirds using 272.100 this year for their air-to-air
comms.  They only use it to coordinate their movements during a
performance, therefore you wouldn't hear it in use at the airport.
245.750 was inactive.  123.600 is interesting to listen to.  Some of
the acrobatic teams use this frequency to broadcast to the PA system
for the audience at Ontario Place.  As well, you hear the announcer
talking back.  Great if you don't have the privilege of a front row
seat!
--
Michael Fenech
Etobicoke, Ontario  CANADA
[e-mail]



From [e-mail] Thu Sep 05 21:32:22 1996
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From: "Mark Thompson" <[e-mail]>
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Subject: TRADE Icom R7000 for R7100
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I have a new in the box, unused, Icom R7000A (full coverage govt. model)
that I would like to trade for a similar Icom R7100.
Email
Mark


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 05 21:32:23 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Burke Haworth)
Subject: Tune scanner to specific band?
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Can a multi-band scanner be tuned to perform optimally on a specific
band?  I realize this would be at the expense of the other bands but
I have an old scanner that I don't use. If it was sensitive enough it
could still do some useful service monitoring a specific UHF frequency.
Can this be done?




From [e-mail] Thu Sep 05 21:32:24 1996
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From: kevin jones <[e-mail]>
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Hi,

Can anyone tell me what kit I would need for effective communications
between a rally car and service vehicle. Range would need to be at least
five miles, often in hilly and forested areas (Mid & North Wales etc.).

I have heard rally crews many times whilst scanning (VHF) but the boot
is now on the other foot and I need to invest in some radio kit for the
rally team I help out but don't know what I'd need or what is commonly
used.

Would buy new or second hand but kit must be sanctioned by rally regs.
Any info on prices, range, licence requirements etc. would also be
greatly appreciated.

Can anyone help me?

Thanks,

kevin jones


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 05 21:32:25 1996
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Could someone explain virtual down conversion to me,
I have a pro 26 and understand this process can be done to my unit
but not sure what it does!
thanks....Gary



From [e-mail] Thu Sep 05 21:32:28 1996
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Gary Baker wrote:
>
> Could someone explain virtual down conversion to me,
> I have a pro 26 and understand this process can be done to my unit
> but not sure what it does!
> thanks....Gary

There is an excellent article in the February 1996 issue of Monitoring
Times describing virtual downconversion.  In short, It takes advantage
of the image frequency.  The image frequency occurs when a received
signal is mixed with the intermediate frequency of the unit.  This
results in sum and difference frequencies.  One of these is amplified,
the other not amplified/attenuated.  The frequency that is Not amplified
is the image frequency.  Through a few calculations, it boils down to
taking the first IF frequency multiplied by two, and adding or
subtracting to the desired frequency.  For cellular, if the first IF is
10.7 Mhz and the desired frequency is 870, you would check for images
on:
870 + (10.7 x 2) = 891.4

or

870 - (10.7 x 2) =848.6

note that both of these are still in the cell range, so the lower cell
frequencies would still be blocked.

The virtual downconverter essentially attempts to remove the attenuation
(filters) to the image frequencies by the use of a switch.

Pick up the article.  It's much more comprehensive.

Hope this helps!

73 de JIM N2ZZ



From [e-mail] Thu Sep 05 21:32:29 1996
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Date: Wed, 04 Sep 1996 23:19:43 -0400
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Gary Baker wrote:
>
> Could someone explain virtual down conversion to me,
> I have a pro 26 and understand this process can be done to my unit
> but not sure what it does!
> thanks....GaryHi,the Virtual Downconverter is a technique that I designed fo
r
scanners,in order to help cope with the reality of having incomplete 800
Mhz band coverage.The exact proceedure as it is applied to different
scanners varies,but the goal remaind the same: The scanner's 800 Mhz
band RF signal input filter section or it's entire 800 Mhz
downconversion circuitry, normally controlled by the scanner's CPU is in
effect "hot wired ON".The scanner is then programmed with a set of
Search mode frequency limits, along with proper frequency step rate and
signal demodulation mode as needed. Again,these parameters will vary
with different scanner designs, but the intent here is to generate the
correct range of Local Oscillator signals within the scanner that is
needed in order to permit reception in the missing portion of the 800
MHz band; 869.04 - 893.97 MHz to be exact. The end result is perfect "on
channel" reception at the same sensitivity as other 800 Mhz frequencies
for that scanner.

This proceedure can be applied to a number of scanners,including the
PRO-26, PRO-2040, BC80,BC220/230 and BC9000.We have documented specific
examples of this in several articles in all major scanner publications
over the past two years.

The  principle of the Virtual Downconverter can be tested in a scanner
like the PRO-26 or BC3000 by programming in a set of Search limits of
between 360.2 and 385.2 MHz,then selecting Narrow FM mode and 5 KHz
tuning step rate. When searching,you will likely pickup some signals
from the 869 - 894 Mhz range, but since the 800 MHz band signal input
filter is not being selected ON, the actual sensitivity of the receiver
to the 800 Mhz signals will be fairly poor.This can be easily be
corrected however.

With the PRO-26/BC3000 you also have the option of using the attenuator
function to serve as the activation control for the Virtual
Downconverter operation.This serves two functions: it preserves the
"stock" appearance of the radio,in effect giving the  radio "Stealth
Conversion" capabilities. And since the attenuator can be set to
specific memory channels,you can even set certain memories to have
"normal" frequencies in them, or store 800 MHz "conversion" frequencies
in selected channels as needed.Other scanners that do not have a
selectable attenuator function require the installation of a small
switch for the Downconverter function.

Some folks have noted that you can receive the missing 800 Mhz freqs up
in the 1005 - 1015 MHz area. This is true,but since this is occuring by
way of a harmonic (frequency multiple) of the receiver's Local
Oscillator, you have two problems: One is since the harmonic is weaker
than the normal LO, the receive sensitivity is much weaker than normal,
also that even if you have a tuning step rate of 5 KHz selected, the
actual tuning step rate will be 10 KHz.This combined with how the
receiver's First and Second Local Oscilator frequencies line up,you will
be missing about 30 percent of the possible active frequencies.This is
not a problem with the Virtual Downconverter.

With scanners like the BC80 or BC230, using the Virtual Downconverter,
you achieve a major improvement in reception of the 869 - 894 MHz range,
Even if these scanners could program the entire 800 Mhz range,their
tuning step rate would likely be 12.5 KHz,which would not be optimum for
reception in the 880 MHz area. You would also have to contend with image
interference from trunking services in the 860 MHz area. When using
image reception in order to receive the missing frequencies up around
the 910 MHz area, you still have the problem of 12.5 KHz tuning steps,
and if you calculate it out,with the lowest frequency that can program
into these scanners for 870 Mhz image reception, there is about a 3 MHz
section in the 869 - 872 MHz area that you can't receive.

For more inforamtion  call: Cellular Security Group at: 1-508-281-8892



From [e-mail] Thu Sep 05 21:32:31 1996
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From: "Jay S. Schulman" <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: VTECH 910ADL Security?
Date: Wed, 04 Sep 1996 11:16:14 -0500
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Malex007 wrote:
>
> "Picking up the signal" is one thing, listening to it is another! If you
> tune into the VTECH phone with a scanner, all you will hear is hiss. Yes,
> it is secure. The fact that it is not spread spectrum isn't really all
> that relevant--if someone was really determined, they could intercept
> spread spectrum technology as well.

This is what they want you to think.  It may be a 900mhz phone, but it
is analog and unscrambled.  Bring your scanner into the store and try it
out (most stores that sell it also use it in the store because it works
so well).

You will be able to hear it crystal clear.

This is the 910ADL from VTech.
--
Jay S. Schulman

---
"I'm not a cobb or corn, so you canstop butterin' me up.  I don't need
you
to tell me how good my coffee is.  I'm the one who buys it, I know how
f*ckin' good it is.  When Bonnie goes shoppin;, she buys sh*t.  I buy
the
gourmet expensive stuff 'cause when I drink it, I wanna taste it.  But
what's on my mind at this moment isn't the coffee in my kitchen, it's
the dead man in my garage."                             -Pulp Fiction

"I bent my Wookie."                                     -The Simpsons


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 05 21:32:31 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Malex007)
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Subject: Re: VTECH 910ADL Security?
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"Picking up the signal" is one thing, listening to it is another! If you
tune into the VTECH phone with a scanner, all you will hear is hiss. Yes,
it is secure. The fact that it is not spread spectrum isn't really all
that relevant--if someone was really determined, they could intercept
spread spectrum technology as well.


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 05 21:32:32 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Clint Bradford)
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Subject: Want HOLD mod for Radio Shack Freq Counter.
Date: Wed,  4 Sep 1996 04:42:00 GMT
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How to add a hold function to the Radio Shack RF Frequency Counter:

Ground TP17.  In the schematic, TP17 is pin one of U3, connected to
+5V thru a 47k resistor.  On the circuit board, TP17 is on the display
side, just right of the lower-right corner of the IC.  Grounds are about
1/4 inch below and to the right, the three non-tinned points in the large
area of metal.

I grounded TP17 directly and the display stopped.  After lifting the ground,
the counter resumed counting at the beginning of a sampling cycle.

Personally, I would ground TP17 thru a 1k resistor.  I haven't performed
the mod to my RS counter, since the pads are VERY small and my fine-tip
iron is at work.  I will try the 1k Hold mod on Monday and give a report
(unless somebody beats me to it).

An amplifier mod to increase the sensitivity is in the works, reports to follo
w

Happy Trails to You,
Galen, KF0YJ


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From: [e-mail] (Galen Watts)
Subject: RS FREQ COUNTER HOLD MOD!!!!!!!!!
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How to add a hold function to the Radio Shack RF Frequency Counter:

Ground TP 17.  In the schematic, TP17 is pin one of U3, connected to
+5V thru a 47k resistor.  On the circuit board, TP17 is on the display
side, just right of the lower-right corner of the IC.  Grounds are about
1/4 inch below and to the right, the three non-tinned points in the large
area of metal.  TP17 is the tinned pad next to a SM resistor marked '473'
for 47k.

I rigged a momentary switch to ground TP17 thru a 1k resistor (you never
can tell) and it works just fine!  I drilled a small hole to mount the switch
just above the plastic depression so I could push the button with my right
thumb.  A small toggle switch would fit.

I'll be trying the other TP's to see what wonderful things RS didn't put
on the front.

Galen, KF0YJ


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From: Brusletto <[e-mail]>
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Subject: What is a frequency counter for?
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What is a frequency counter for?


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From: [e-mail] (Hugh Duff)
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Subject: Re: What is a frequency counter for?
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Brusletto <[e-mail]> wrote:

>What is a frequency counter for?

Condensed version:

Used to indicate the frequency (cycles per second) of an AC signal.

Commonly used as test and alignment instruments used to calibrate
oscillators and other circuitry that generate an AF or RF signal.
Can be used to test the 60 or 400 Hz on a power line.
Also used as a signal detection device when incorporated with a
sensitive amplifier, can pick out radio signals from the airwaves and
indicate the frequency...ie, standing in the near RF field of a Taxi
or Police car while they are transmitting.

Hugh Duff  VA3TO  Toronto




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PKHARTLEY wrote:
>
> In article <[e-mail]>, Bill Beekman
> <[e-mail]> writes:
>
> >Escort is the best.  Their phone has the greatest number of channels,
> >something like 1000 or the like.   Contact Cincinnati Microwaves 'web
> >site for more info..

Actually it's 100 "channels" on an Escort.

> Sam's Club has the newer model (Courier 9600) for $179. They also have a
> digital Tropez (model 910something?) for $99. If you have a membership, or
> know someone who does, these are the best prices I've seen.

I would NOT recommend the Escort based on my experience with the 9600
that I have had for about 8 months.

The Escort uses direct sequence spread spectrum.  Despite what the
proponents of direct sequence will say, it is much more suseptable to
annoying interference than most frequency hopping spread spectrum
devices.  In fact, I have two frequency hopping devices in the house
with my Escort, a Ricochet wireless modem and my room mates phone.  When
both of those devices are on the air, my Escort DSSS phone is
practically unusable.

This was not always the case.  When I first got the phone last winter it
worked great.  The range was excellent.  I could walk several hundred
feet from house and maintain calls.  The range is now about half that.
I can only attribute this to my theory that more and more 900 MHz
devices are making their way into my neighborhood and "raising the noise
floor".

The Escort 9600 DSSS phone does have better sound quality than any of
the FHSS phones I tried - however sound quality doesn't mean squat when
your handset can't sync up to the base unit.

As far as which phone is more secure...  Freq hopping and direct
sequence are both very secure form any type of casual monitoring.

The Escort phone has, essentially, two layers of coding.  Your voice is
digitized to a 64 kbs stream (PCM), then convolved with a 32 bit "PN
code" that is unique to the base/handset.  So any one that wanted to
eavesdrop would have to be able to crack the 32 bit PN code (on a wide
band receiver since the radio signal from an Escort is about 5 Mhz
wide), run it through a correlator, then decode the PCM (which I think
is also encrypted - remeber that encrypting the digital portion of a
analog-to-digital-to-analog process is really pretty easy so I wouldn't
put it past CNMW to have it)

Freq hoppers are required to use at least 50 channels in there hop
list.  They also digitize your voice (usually into a 64 kbs PCM or 32
kbs ADPCM) which could be easily encrypted.  That signal is sent over a
radio system that is continuously changing "channels" during the call.
The requirement for a 900 Mhz freq hopping phone is that they must use
at least 50 different "center frequency channels" in the hop list.  Freq
hoppers stay on one center freq channel for no more that 400
milliseconds at a time.  Each channel can be up to 500 Khz wide (20dB
bandwidth).  The base and handset sync up on a unique hopping sequence.

Both are VERY secure.  Your neighbor will not be able to listen to your
calls...  unless your neighbor is with the CIA or something...then it
really doesn't matter if you have a cordless or not, now does it?  ;)

Regards
--
Curtis
KD6ELA / GROL / PP-ASEL


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 05 21:32:36 1996
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From: "Jeffrey Miller" <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: Who makes the most "SECURE"  cordless phone?????
Date: 4 Sep 1996 19:05:28 GMT
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Gary Wilburn <[e-mail]> wrote in article <[e-mail]>...
> Have an ATT 9100, 900 Mhz cordless phone.

I would agree that the ATT 9100 is a good phone..  I tried to find the
frequencies it
uses with no luck at all (Searched 902-928).
.
The only thing is I almost didn't buy the phone because the packaging
doesn't mention that it is digital instead of analog -  NOTE>> I got mine
for $140.



From [e-mail] Thu Sep 05 21:32:37 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Doug)
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Please email price/condition

thanks

doug



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From: "Mark Thompson" <[e-mail]>
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Subject: WTB Icom R7000 remote control unit
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I would like to buy a remote control unit for the Icom R7000 receiver.
email
Mark


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From: "Mark Thompson" <[e-mail]>
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Subject: WTB Icom R7000 video board
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I want to buy an external mount video accessory for the Icom R7000
receiver.
email
Mark


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 05 21:32:39 1996
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From: [e-mail]
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Subject: Re:Yaesu FRG 9600 computer control
Date: 2 Sep 1996 15:39:34 GMT
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I'm interested in controling the above rig with a PC and I am building the
interface. Does anyone have details of the optional A to D board that could
be used to read the S meter output? Also any suggestions over software,
I've sen ProCat, Scancat and PC-Monitor any more out there?


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 05 21:32:40 1996
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From: [e-mail]
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i have the MVT 7100 and it is a very good scanner , there is only 2
problems :

-- transmodulation with 88-108 wfm band
-- qrm with my computer ( if you have the solution for it show me ! )

i listen somes stations with the MVT 7100 and not with a realistic pro
2024 !

i dont is the AR 8000 is better than the MVT 7100 but the MPVT 7100 is
very good , if you have not the 7100   but it

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From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 16:51:55 1996
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From: [e-mail] (D Stark)
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In article <[e-mail]>, storming@indi
rect.com (WSNP) wrote:
>"Storm Chaser" by Warren Faidley.
>
>The critically acclaimed book is now in it's second printing!!!!
>

        This is the third time I've seen this notice in
rec.radio.scanner.  Where are all the so-called "no
advertising in the newsgroup" vigilantes now?



From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 16:51:56 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Brian Hafer)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: ***FOR SALE:  PRO-36 Handheld Scanner***
Date: 6 Sep 1996 17:09:02 GMT
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I am selling a Realistic Pro-36 handheld scanner which I got for
Christmas a couple of years ago.  It is in great condition because I've
barely used it.  (That's also why I'm selling it.)  I guarantee that
absolutely EVERYTHING on this scanner is in PERFECT condition.

E-mail me with an offer, and I'll accept the best one I receive in the
next few days.

Specifications:

--20 channel memory
--Direct frequency entry feature
--UHF/VHF/HI/LO/AIR bands
--Frequencies covered: 30-54, 108-136, 136.005-174, 380-512 MHz
--Power: 6 AA batteries
--Recharging jack for use with Ni-Cd's

Love,
Brian Hafer
[e-mail]


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 16:51:58 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Drew Durigan)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: ***TWO SCANNERS ON ONE ANTENNA HOOKUP???
Date: 5 Sep 1996 22:09:51 GMT
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Forget the signal splitter!

Spend a few bucks more and get yourself a good antenna SWITCHER instead.
You can find these...which allow a radio to be switched to 2, 4 or more
different antennas...at ham radio stores (do not use a CB model, as these
are designed for lower frequencies and will exhibit significant loss when
used at the higher frequencies received by your scanner.)

You should be able to get a good VHF/UHF 2-antenna splitter for less than
$30.  Less if you can find a local hamfest and go to their swap meet!

-Drew in Sunny Central Florida-
 KADF-6895
 KF4DDM



From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 16:51:58 1996
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From: [e-mail] (me)
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Subject: 200$ for used Pro 2005
Date: 6 Sep 1996 16:36:08 GMT
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Paid 200$ for used Pro 2005 with cellular mod in place.  Also has
a couple other mods, some lights installed for when a signal is
received and a little signal strength meter.

Good price?




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From: [e-mail] (PKHARTLEY)
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Subject: Re: 25 Cordless-phone Frequencies?
Date: 6 Sep 1996 11:34:36 -0400
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From the  FAF - Frequently Asked Frequencies
      on  ftp://oak.oakland.edu
      as  /pub/hamradio/docs/misc/scanner.faf


Cordless Telephone                                          [15.233]

       Chan  Base    Handset           Chan    Base    Handset

         1   43.72    48.76            16      46.61    49.67
         2   43.74    48.84            17  B   46.63    49.845
         3   43.82    48.86            18  C   46.67    49.86
         4   43.84    48.92            19      46.71    49.77
         5   43.92    49.02            20  D   46.73    49.875
         6   43.96    49.08            21  A   46.77    49.83
         7   44.12    49.10            22  E   46.83    49.89
         8   44.16    49.16            23      46.87    49.93
         9   44.18    49.20            24      46.93    49.99
        10   44.20    49.24            25      46.97    49.97
        11   44.32    49.28
        12   44.36    49.36          Chs A - E handset frequencies
        13   44.40    49.40          are also used for baby room
        14   44.46    49.46          monitors and low power
        15   44.48    49.50          handie-talkies.

        Effective 05 June 95, channels 1 - 15 are authorized and
    the original 10 channels are renumbered 16-25.


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 16:52:03 1996
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From: Jim <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: 800mhz Trunking
Date: Thu, 12 Sep 1996 12:36:08 -0700
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To: Bob Waller <"[e-mail]"@idt.liberty.com>

Bob Waller wrote:
 >
 > GE/Erickson 800mhz Trunking Systems.
 > A lot of information can be found on the Motorola Trunking Systems, but I
 > can't find any on the GE/Erickson products.
 >
 > I am looking for any technical information on how the system works that
 > may be available on the WEB or from you the user.
 > Any help would be appreciated.

You might take a look at:
http://www.ericsson.com/EPI/BR/index.html

technically all I know is that the data channel is at 9600 baud.

Jim


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To: Bob Waller <"[e-mail]"@idt.liberty.com>

Bob Waller wrote:
 >
 > GE/Erickson 800mhz Trunking Systems.
 > A lot of information can be found on the Motorola Trunking Systems, but I
 > can't find any on the GE/Erickson products.
 >
 > I am looking for any technical information on how the system works that
 > may be available on the WEB or from you the user.
 > Any help would be appreciated.

also:
http://www.ericsson.com/EPI/BR/2edacsov.html

Jim


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From: "Mark S. McDermott, P.E." <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: 9913 coax
Date: Wed, 04 Sep 1996 21:00:07 -0700
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Bill Cheek wrote:
>
> "Mark S. McDermott, P.E." <[e-mail]> wrote:
>
> >I can go on, however I suggest a serious look at the LMR family of
> >cable.
>
> Can you give details of manufacturer and / or distributors?
>
> Bill


Distrubuted by all branches of Hutton Communications,

Seattle 800.426.2964            Dallas  800.442.3811
Denver  800.726.6245            Atlanta 800.741.3811
Chigaco 800.435.9313            Canada  800.265.8685


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 16:52:06 1996
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From: Richard Paschal <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: 9913 coax
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Len Anderson <[e-mail]> wrote:
: Nobody is restricted to Radio Shack to purchase coaxial cable.  Belden
: 9913 and 9914 can be ordered through a local Newark Electronics outlet.
: Depending on the length (100' min.), it runs a dollar a foot there.
: There are a great number of electronics product manufacturers with web
: sites now and those can offer addresses of distributors and reps (I
: don't have full Internet access so don't have the huge list).

Amateur Electronics Supply sells Belden 9913 for $.59 / foot.
1-800-558-0411

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From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 16:52:07 1996
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From: Prescott.%1:2619/211.9 (Prescott %1:2619/211.9)
Date: 04 Sep 96 11:15:24
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To: Prescott %1:2619/211.9%12:320/100.666
From: Prescott <[e-mail]>
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Organization: Global Information Exchange Corp.

Jim Finney wrote:

> Given that 9913 is the best coax to use, what is the next best?  My
> interests are 400 and 800mHz.  Does Radio Shack make a decent coax
> for these frequencies?
>
> Thanks for the input.
>
> Jim..

Jim,

The last coax(RG-8) I bought at Radio Shack had a very poor shield.
Braid was uneven.

Ask yourself four questions.

How long a run of transmission line do you need?
What is the highest frequency you will be scanning?
What is the most loss you will accept?
How much money do you have?

You can spend $0.20 per foot for RG58 with 16 db loss per 100ft at
900mhz
or $18 per foot for 2-1/4" hardline with .55 dbloss per 100ft at 900mhz.

I use 170ft of 1-5/8" hardline at the house--salvaged from commercial
use. :-)
Some of my friends have gotten the tail ends of cable TV hardline rolls
and built matching transformers(75ohm).

You ask about the next best thing to 9913, my opinion is 9914. It has a
foam dielectric and is a few cents per foot cheaper. 1.5db greater loss
at 900mhz, though. Same connectors.

Another alternative is Times LMR-400. It uses 9913 connectors, costs 1/2
of 9913 and boasts 3.88db per 100ft loss-900mhz(9913 has 4.2db
loss/100ft). Available from Tessco(800-472-7373) for $.44 per foot.
Sounds great, but I've never tried it.
You could be brave and try the LMR-600. Cost is about the same as 9913.
2.5db loss/100ft at 900mhz. Cost of connectors is the catch(about $16
each).

Hope this was useful.

Mark Prescott
KE4LWP

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From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 16:52:08 1996
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From: Bill.Cheek%1:2619/211.9 (Bill Cheek%1:2619/211.9)
Date: 04 Sep 96 11:13:24
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: 9913 coax
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To: Bill Cheek%1:2619/211.9%12:320/100.666
From: [e-mail] (Bill Cheek)
Subject: Re: 9913 coax
Organization: COMMtronics Engineering/World Scanner Report

"Mark S. McDermott, P.E." <[e-mail]> wrote:

>I can go on, however I suggest a serious look at the LMR family of
>cable.

Can you give details of manufacturer and / or distributors?

Bill

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From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 16:52:09 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Bob Witte)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: 9913 coax
Date: 5 Sep 1996 23:08:29 GMT
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[e-mail] wrote:

: Yes, the hardline is more expensive and the connectors are outrageous,
: but it is well worth it.  I suggest everyone look into it if possible
: and practical.

  And if the cable length and frequency of interest warrant it.

   Bob

Bob Witte / [e-mail] / HP / EMD / [phone] / KB0CY / 7J1AUE


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 16:52:10 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Drew Durigan)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: 9913 coax
Date: 7 Sep 1996 12:55:46 GMT
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Richard Paschal <[e-mail]> wrote:

>Amateur Electronics Supply sells Belden 9913 for $.59 / foot.
>1-800-558-0411

And the salesdroids at Radio Shack are charging .69/ foot now for plain
'ol RG-8!

-Drew in Sunny Central Florida-



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From: John - in Roseville CA <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner,alt.radio.scanner
Subject: ? Is the AOR AR2700 a good scanner to buy?
Date: 6 Sep 1996 03:25:23 GMT
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The ads look good, the specs look good, the price $210.00 at HRO
looks good.  If you fave one, what do you think?

mailto:[e-mail]

John




From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 16:52:11 1996
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From: Steve Eklund <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: A *VERY* SCARY SCENARIO
Date: Sun, 08 Sep 1996 07:24:29 -0700
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Patrick Cook wrote:

>
> In short, SCANNER MONITORING SHOULD BE A HOBBY---NOT AN OBSESSION OR
> REASON TO DO SOMETHING AS STUPID AS INTERFERING WITH EMS PERSONNEL IN
> THEIR EFFORTS TO *SAVE LIVES*!!!  Because the next life they have to
> save could be *YOURS*!!!!
>
> Rob (moderator for aresco), I know I'm ranting, but I think it's worth it
> considering the fact there MAY have been some hams who MAY have done the
> Amateur Radio Service (as well as themselves) a DISservice, IMHO (especially
> with the "Little LEO" folks and other commercialized SIGs breathing down
> our necks and salivating just to get just a piece of our PRECIOUS bands)!!!
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Patrick Cook, KB0OXD


Very good point, Patrick. My wife is an EMT and also a ham. She has
complained to me in the past about people with scanners getting in the
way. She cannot tell how many are actually hams because usually they
are only holding scanners. Some have other hand-held equipment, but she
can't tell for sure if they are hams, CB'ers or just using other
commercial frequencies.

My friend Mike, who is a fireman and also a ham has bitched and moaned
about the same thing. He does not care for on-lookers at all, but his pet
peeve is the hams who whip out their ARES cards and act like they have
some authority at the scene, when all they do is get in the way. He says
that they have plenty of communications in most circumstances, but when
those rare moments pop up, they will ask for assistance. Sort of a "Don't
call us, we'll call you" thing.

Steve, WA3RVT


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 16:52:12 1996
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From: [e-mail] (TomP EMT)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: A *VERY* SCARY SCENARIO
Date: 6 Sep 1996 08:32:25 -0400
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As a 5 yr EMS worker, I cant even tell you how many times I have responded
to MVA's or the like to find some scanner junkie/whacker A. telling me how
to do my job or B.found that they have compromised crime scenes,
endangered patients and basically caused more harm than good. This happen
so regularly its not funny. As a scanner buff myself it bothers me to see
these people pretending to be cops, medics or firefighters. The reason we
switch frequencies is not so much the whackers as more for scene security,
and also confidentiality. We actually had a fatal MVA a few years ago and
the victims mother and father were notified by a party, who heard on their
scanner their son was dead!!!!!! This is why we do it.....anyways, just
thought I would add my 2 cents...Tom


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 16:52:14 1996
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From: John Quackey KISSOFF <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: A *VERY* SCARY SCENARIO
Date: Fri, 06 Sep 1996 21:10:57 -0700
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Patrick Cook wrote:

>Hello everyone:

>I just got off the phone with my mom, who's a home-shopper turned scanner-buf
f,
>and what she described to me (IF this indeed happened the way she described
>it to me is EXACTLY what happened).

Ok, lets get pumped up on second hand info!

>From what she told me, this is what happened.  Keep in mind that I know
>NOTHING of the particulars of this incident other than what she told me:

Now we're rolling with good solid unknown particulars of the incident!

(snip)

>What caught my mom's (and later mine) ears was when some Fire Department
>personnel said (again according to her accounts of this incident) something
>like "There are too many hams listening to us.  Switch to Channel 2" (or
>whatever channel they went to for simplex, on-scene communications).

It's common practice for law enforcement etc. to use lesser known (often
non-repeater) channels when they have to give out names, phone numbers,
incident particulars and other specific info over the air that might be
inappropriately used by persons listening in with scanners. Maybe the
fire department personal used the term "ham" instead "nosey old women
with overly paranoid children" in the interest of community relations
(they've probably had sensitivity training).

>What's so scary about it, you say??

I think we *know* what the scary part of this post is!

(snip)

(snip)

(snip)

(snip)

(snip)

(snip)

(snip)

(snip... snip... )

(snip... snip... )

(snip... snip... whew!)

>Sincerely,

>Patrick Cook, KB0OXD
>Denver, Colorado

Miller Time!!!!!!!



From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 16:52:17 1996
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From: John Nelson <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: A *VERY* SCARY SCENARIO
Date: Fri, 06 Sep 1996 19:18:15 -0800
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Ben Hines wrote:
>
> Why do I find this hard to believe?.. I am sure you get a lot of people
> who interfere with your duties, but are you sure they are ALL "scanner
> junkies" just because they are there?.. have you actually seen scanners
> in these people's hands?.. I seem to remember other EMTs posting around
> here that they never have had this happen.
>
> By the way, if my son had died in an auto accident, I would WANT to
> know RIGHT AWAY

Typical scanner junkie/whacker point of view. They ALL think that they
are "providing a service" with their meddling.

BELIEVE IT! I can't BEGIN to list the reasons why it is BAD for
jerk-offs with scanners to make death notifications, or otherwise get
involved with somebody else's business (police, fire, ems, etc.).

More to the point, the EMT's in question, whose statement about "...too
many hams..." started this thread, were doubtless concerned about
patient confidentiality and didn't want to broadcast sensitive
information that they knew the legions of scanner-heads would hear. That
they equate hams with other parasitic forms of radio-user life forms,
such as the scanner-head, is a sad statement about the hams' current
public image.


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 16:52:21 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Andy Domonkos)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: A *VERY* SCARY SCENARIO
Date: 6 Sep 1996 14:56:51 GMT
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These whackos persuing accident/crime scenes deserve to be arrested or at
the least detained by police. Anyone willingly interfering with public
safety operations are in the same category as criminals themselves.

Perhaps having these individuals grilled over by a psychiatrist and then
having this on a police record would help change their disruptive
attitudes. It sure would affect their employment opportunities during a
background check.

Those individuals are nothing more than gawkers. Unfortunately they give
the rest of us a bad reputation.




TomP EMT ([e-mail]) wrote:
: As a 5 yr EMS worker, I cant even tell you how many times I have responded
: to MVA's or the like to find some scanner junkie/whacker A. telling me how
: to do my job or B.found that they have compromised crime scenes,
: endangered patients and basically caused more harm than good. This happen
: so regularly its not funny. As a scanner buff myself it bothers me to see
: these people pretending to be cops, medics or firefighters. The reason we
: switch frequencies is not so much the whackers as more for scene security,
: and also confidentiality. We actually had a fatal MVA a few years ago and
: the victims mother and father were notified by a party, who heard on their
: scanner their son was dead!!!!!! This is why we do it.....anyways, just
: thought I would add my 2 cents...Tom


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 16:52:22 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Mike Steinkamp)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: a/b switch on bc20/20
Date: Tue, 10 Sep 1996 12:32:46 GMT
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I have read all the FAQ's for this radio, however I can't seem to find
any mods for this radio.  But most of all I can't seem to find out how
this a/b switch is suposed to work.  When I switch it from a to b it
still reads out the same channels.  If I program a different channel
in it changes it, but on both the a and b side.  What am I doing
wrong?  Is it possable this swith is bad?  Any answers?

Mike




From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 16:52:24 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Dr Pepper)
Newsgroups: alt.radio.scanner,rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: alt.radio.scanner.flame_fest FAQ
Date: Sat, 07 Sep 1996 16:45:45 GMT
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[e-mail] (Rob Neff) wrote:

All this _sounds_ great, , , , However, I suspect that you are tilting
at windmills.  what you suggest will never happen.  the kind of p***s
measureing done here will continue un abatted on this frequency.  The
reason is that both parties are absolutely correct, , , , in their own
minds.
sad but true  :-{


>alt.radio.scanner.flame_fest FAQ
>09/05/1996
>Rob Neff

>For any of you that have frequented the rec.radio scanner newgroup,
>you know all to well the kind of crap-posts that are found there.
>Blatant jealousy, forgeries, mis-representations, misinformation and
>down-right rude/obnoxious/slanderous posts have become the norm.
>So, in an honest effort to move these types of messages away from a
>topic-specific newsgroup, I have created
>alt.radio.scanner.flame_fest...
>
>This group is specificly for those kinds of posts, and open critiques
>of each others information, personal attacks and other scanner related
>(yet off topic) messages.

>Please review these few tips while posting/reading to/from  this
>group.

>*Obsenities*:
>Although sometimes difficult to put up with, it has become a social
>norm for people to use profanity as an integral part of their
>vocabulary. Posting a reply to a message simply because it contains
>profanity is both un-necessary and futile.

>*Forgeries*:
>Forgeries are a fact of internet/usenet life and must be watched for.
>Do not assume that a message's creator is the person listed in the
>header information or in the body itself. It has become very common
>for posters either seeking anonymity or chaos, to place the names of
>an innocent party in the header information to make readers beleive
>that someone other than they, sent the message. Most forged posts have
>content in high contrast to the real persons regular posting ettiquite
>and mannerisims, and may contradict a previous posting from the same
>user.
>If an email address is discernable from the header information, and
>you are sceptical about the content of a post, e-mail that poster for
>verification before openly attacking them, to keep yourself one step
>ahead of the game.
>If there isn't an email address, or is an anonymous account, feel free
>to respond in the open forum, as they have selected it by virtue.

>*Threats*:
>Any threats other than ones related to ISPs, legal action and personal
>obligation should not be tolerated!  Such as *bodily harm* or anything
>specific to possible harm to life and/or property. Any threat should
>be reported to the proper authorities, and not invited or egged into
>enactment.

>****************************************************************************
>*VOTE*VOTE*VOTE*VOTE*VOTE*VOTE*VOTE*VOTE*VOTE*
>****************************************************************************

>In the event there is a dispute, and both parties wish to have a vote
>taken of peers to settle a disagreement, one person, agreeable by both
>parties, should be selected to accept votes from peers in the group
>over a specific perod of time, and the results displayed for all to
>see. This result can either be argued or accepted, but is not to be
>considered the last word in a discussion unless agreed to by all
>warring factions.

>****************************************************************************

>Above all else, have fun. But remember that other are trying to do the
>same. The use of emoticons is fruitful in thwarting a wrong take on a
>message.


Dr Pepper
10 - 2 - 4




From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 16:52:25 1996
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From: "James P. Meyer" <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: alt.syntax.tactical...was Open Letter About Moderating This Newsgroup
Date: Fri, 6 Sep 1996 11:01:57 -0400
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On Fri, 6 Sep 1996, Bill Cheek wrote:

> <snicker>  That must certainly be true for a lot of newsgroups, but
> NOT for alt.syntax.tactical.  This is one baaaaaaaad-assed newsgroup.
> More than likely, my ISP/server won't import the postings.  As I
> understand it, these guys have the power to shut down the US
> Government, and even switchy-swatchy it with Russia's, if they wanted
> to bad enough.
>
> I was thinking about getting on there and boning up a little.  :-)

        I surfed over to the WWW and used the Alta Vista search engine to
pull down usenet references to the group.  Your message here was #4 or 5
in the list, BTW.

        The first entry was a FAQ on the group.  From what I can see,
these guys are a lame bunch of spammers who couldn't wipe their own
behinds if somebody held their hands for them.

        Are you *sure* you want to try to learn things from them?  From
what I can see, if you burned out your brain on drugs, you'd still have
to get a lobotomy in order to get down to their IQ level.

        Jim




From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 16:52:26 1996
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From: John Mackey/KA0SSF <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Amusing...
Date: Sat, 07 Sep 1996 12:00:01 -0700
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Clint Bradford wrote:

> I find it quite amusing that all the "anti-Bill Cheek" sentiment here is
> written by:


I have found it interesting that all the Bill Cheek defenders & supporters
are newbies & ass-kissers.




From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 16:52:27 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Len Anderson)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Antenna for scanners: OCF
Date: Mon,  9 Sep 1996 07:24:00 GMT
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Bill, if you please, some clarifications on the diagram for those who
are not used to these "schematics":
=====================================================================
BC>From: [e-mail] (Bill Cheek)
BC>Subject: Antenna for scanners: OCFD

BC>Home-Made Off-Center-Fed-Dipole Scanner Antenna

BC>Item
BC>No.
BC>1    TV Matching Transformer (300-ohm to 75-ohm)
BC>      RS #15-1140, -1143, -1230, -1253
BC>2    RG-6 Coax (You decide the length)
BC>      RS #278-1316, -1317, -1318
BC>3    Gold Type F male connectors  on each end of the RG-6
BC>      RS #278-225
BC>4    Adapter, female Type F-to-male BNC
BC>      RS #278-251
BC>5    Wire, copper tubing, aluminum tubing, etc;  2 sections
BC>      or pcs.   5a is 48" long   5b is 18" long

BC>  |
BC>  |
BC>  |
BC>  | 5a
BC>  |
BC>  |
BC>  |
BC>  |                                       __________
BC>  |    _____  3        2            3  4 |          |
BC>F o---| 1   |XXX===================XXXYYY| Scanner  |
BC>F o---|_____|XXX===================XXXYYY|__________|
BC>  |
BC>  |    Notes:  5a and 5b must not touch at Feedpoints (F)
BC>  |            All items are available at Radio SHack.
BC>  | 5b
BC>  |

BC>Install it so it looks pretty much as shown, with the wires or tubing
BC>going straight up and down.  The short end can be on top or bottom, as
BC>shown.   Can be taped to a window or a wall.  Best kept away from
BC>metal, though, especially anything its size or larger.
======================================================================

Item 1, the matching transformer, should have the 300 Ohm terminals or
wires to the dipole elements, right?

The coax is just _one_ cable, right?  The diagram gives the
appearance a double coax run.  :)

======================================================================

Of more technical interest, what's the approximate frequency range of
this assymetrical dipole?  Had a chance to sweep the VSWR on it?

---
 * OLX 2.1 * Insert dynamite in drive B: and light fuse when ready...


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 16:52:29 1996
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From: @worldnet
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Subject: Re: Antenna in the attic?
Date: Sat, 07 Sep 1996 11:12:28 GMT
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On 5 Sep 1996 18:37:03 GMT, [e-mail] (William Wood)
wrote:

>I'm just starting to get into scanning and am looking to get a
>better antenna for use with my PRO-60 while I'm at home.  I live
>in a community that doesn't allow any type of antenna to be visible.
>I'm, therefore, forced to either put it in the attic, or try to
>disguise it as a piece of landscape or patio furniture.
>
>I live approx 60 miles from downtown Los Angeles (in southern
>Orange County) and can pick up very few LA frequencies.  I upgraded
>my scanner to the $9.95 RS collapsable antenna and it helped a little,
>but I'd still like to pick up more LA freqs.
>
>I've been thinking of getting the RS discone antenna and putting it
>in the attic.  Would that bring in more signals?  I live is a shallow
>canyon in the foothills, so I can't get a good line-of-site to LA.
>Would a directional antenna be better since pretty much all signals
>will be coming from the west (to the east is nat'l forest and mountains).
>
>Any ideas would be appreciated.  Also, does anyone know of any good
>scanner stores in the LA/OC area?
>
>Thanks in advance,
>Bill Wood
>
>--
>William J. Wood
>Lockheed Martin Aeronutronic
>[e-mail]

I would get a outdoor type tv antenna and turn it to vertical.
It will make a great directional antenna. vhf - uhf type. Hope you
have a tall attic. Get the biggest one that will fit.
Rabbit ears is my second choice. They can fit in the attic easier.
If you listen to freq under 50mhz it may not work well.
tv channel 2 is 59.75mhz channel 69 is 805.750mhz
I use a discone in my attic but I live in a metro area.
:<)

Charley
[e-mail]


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 16:52:30 1996
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From: [e-mail]
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Subject: Re: Antenna in the attic?
Date: 7 Sep 1996 08:43:01 GMT
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Bill,
I suffer from the same problem of att restriction and I use a discone in
the attic, it works just fine! You might also look at some of the active
aerials that are on the market. They work well too but can have problems
with strong local signals like hams and broadcast stations.
regards,
Mike Ganley.


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 16:52:31 1996
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From: [e-mail] (William Wood)
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Subject: Antenna in the attic?
Date: 5 Sep 1996 18:37:03 GMT
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I'm just starting to get into scanning and am looking to get a
better antenna for use with my PRO-60 while I'm at home.  I live
in a community that doesn't allow any type of antenna to be visible.
I'm, therefore, forced to either put it in the attic, or try to
disguise it as a piece of landscape or patio furniture.

I live approx 60 miles from downtown Los Angeles (in southern
Orange County) and can pick up very few LA frequencies.  I upgraded
my scanner to the $9.95 RS collapsable antenna and it helped a little,
but I'd still like to pick up more LA freqs.

I've been thinking of getting the RS discone antenna and putting it
in the attic.  Would that bring in more signals?  I live is a shallow
canyon in the foothills, so I can't get a good line-of-site to LA.
Would a directional antenna be better since pretty much all signals
will be coming from the west (to the east is nat'l forest and mountains).

Any ideas would be appreciated.  Also, does anyone know of any good
scanner stores in the LA/OC area?

Thanks in advance,
Bill Wood

--
William J. Wood
Lockheed Martin Aeronutronic
[e-mail]


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 16:52:32 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Len Anderson)
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Subject: Re: ANTENNA QUESTION
Date: Wed,  4 Sep 1996 21:01:00 GMT
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MM>From: [e-mail] (m. mattson)
MM>Subject: Re: ANTENNA QUESTION

MM>jon unruh <[e-mail]> wrote:

MM>>I live 40 miles west of a major city and desire to listen to the 450
           ~~~~~~~~
   [remainder snipped]

MM>It's hard to believe you weren't getting reception.  The only possible
MM>reason I can think of is if everyone is useing 2 watt hand-helds,
MM>which of course makes no sense either.

   A 35 to 45 mile distance begins the "fringe area" where the earth's
   curvature cuts off line-of-sight propagation paths...assuming NO
   change in ground elevation between transmitter and receiver.  VHF and
   above works on a line-of-sight path.  "Ducting" or "meteor scatter"
   effects could defeat that but they aren't that predictable nor are
   they steady.

MM>What was/is the antenna height?  Could a nearby high power transmitter
MM>be washing out reception?  With any of these set-ups, how low could
MM>you set the squelch before you got hash?

   A 40 mile distance calls for an antenna height of 50 to 200 feet and
   a high-gain antenna for any sort of steady signal strength.  It's an
   unfortunate SOL situation, sad to say.

---
 * OLX 2.1 * Go ahead, make my DNA!


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 16:52:33 1996
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From: Dan Prysby <[e-mail]>
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Date: 4 Sep 1996 22:50:04 GMT
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[e-mail] (Samuel Diaz, Jr.) wrote:
>   I recently purchased a Radio Shack Multiband antenna (20.00
>Dollars) for my Hand held Pro-46 Scanner.  Due to height
>restrictions, I placed the antenna approximately 10-12 feet above the
>ground...The reception is not that great compared with the small wic
>antenna that came with the Pro 46.
>
>    Do You think, the problem is the Rg58 cable (20 Ft).  There
>should be a huge difference between these antennas in reception.
>What happened

Could be a couple things:
1. What frequencies - the multiband may be poor in some bands.
    ex. my RS discone is not as good as the RS portable telescoping
    antenna w/BNC mount in the 49MHz band.
    I've heard the discone can be improved with a vertical element
    screwed into the top.
   If it's higher frequencies, it may be connectors.
2. What is the RG58 spec - like loss/100'. Some RG58 may have
   enough loss that for 20' it loses all the antenna gains.
   Connectors too - some are not good for 400+MHz. I use low loss RG6
   and BNC or F connectors, no PL-259.

Specific tests should help with more advice.

Dan Prysby



From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 16:52:34 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Barry Saxon)
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Subject: Any ACARS Shareware??
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Are there any ACARS shareware programs floating about, ideally utilizing the
AEA fax decoder, or the cheesy op-amp deal for POCSAG?


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From: "John C. Noble" <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: Anyone have the specs/description of Uniden MR8100 ?
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Richard,
Ugly.
Take Care, JN

Susan <[e-mail]> wrote in article <50kalb$[e-mail]>...
>
> looking for a good description of Uniden MR 8100 scanner
>
> any info would be appreciated.
>
> Thanks ,
> Richard Reider
>


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 16:52:35 1996
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From: Andy Risius <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Anyone know how to modify PRO-25 ?
Date: Wed, 11 Sep 1996 17:47:05 +0100
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It is sold in different variants in Europe and Canada
with different frequency coverage, so I assume that
there are software or hardware methods of allowing
alternative wave band coverage - or opening other
wavebands.     Anyone know which buttons to press,
switches to move, diodes to add/remove?

Andy

My question is mine, and not my employer's.


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 16:52:36 1996
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From: jg <[e-mail]>
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Subject: anyone know of mod for rs pro2036? (uniden lookalike)
Date: Thu, 05 Sep 1996 10:32:07 -0400
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or where to find it?


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 16:52:38 1996
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From: [e-mail] (ATocco8586)
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Subject: ANYONE TAKEN DELIVERY OF AN EXPLORER YET?
Date: 9 Sep 1996 00:28:59 -0400
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TELL ME ABOUT IT, REACTION TUNING, DECODING, MODULATION. IN ONE UNIT.
SEEMS THAT SOFTWARE COULD BE WRITTEN TO DO SOME REALLY NEAT STUFF WITH
THIS.


              AND HOW MUCH WOULD THAT  PRE-SELECTO APS104 DO THE LINKED TO
THE EXPLORER, OR SCOUT,AR8K COMBO.

   TONY


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 16:52:39 1996
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From: "David Spillett" <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: AOR AR2700 MODS?
Date: 6 Sep 1996 14:56:05 GMT
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For all the latest info on the AR2700, check out
http://www.mv.com/users/wje/aor.html

-Dave [e-mail]

Mark Fellhauer <[e-mail]> wrote in article
<[e-mail]>...
>
> Are there any mods available for the AR2700?
--snip--


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 16:52:39 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Mark Fellhauer)
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Subject: AOR AR2700 MODS?
Date: 5 Sep 1996 23:40:03 -0700
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Are there any mods available for the AR2700?

i.e. 800 Mhz unblock, reaction tune...


Also, is there a good interface and software for this unit?  How about
prices and sources?

Thanks,

Mark Fellhauer
KC7BXS



From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 16:52:40 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Angel Alonso)
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Subject: AOR DA3000 Discone
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Hello !!!

This is my first message here. Sorry for my english, I am spanish and
can not manage very well.

I'm looking at getting a discone antenna for my ar8k, and have found
DA3000 is a bit expensive. Is it well worth ??

Thanks in advance.

__________________________________

-- Angel Alonso <[e-mail]>


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 16:52:41 1996
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From: James Laughter <[e-mail]>
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Subject: AR2700 receiver
Date: Mon, 09 Sep 1996 18:32:31 -0500
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I am thinking of purchasing the AR2700 and would like to hear from
owners about the reception of the receiver over the wide range of
frequencies using just the supplied rubber antenna (i.e. AM broadcast,
Shortwave broadcast, police freqs, cel freqs, etc.).  Is the quality
good or do you have to use other antennas for the lower freqs?
Thanks, Jim N4ID


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 16:52:42 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Steve Work)
Subject: Re: AR8000 Case Needed
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Brian Dragtstra ([e-mail]) wrote:
: NATHAN KEITH wrote:
: >
: > Can anyone advise where to purchase a case for the AR8000 unit?
: >
: > Thanks,
: > NathanWhere did you buy your scanner? Ask them!!!
: Don't waste space on this server for those questions, please.

Tucker Electronics has them, they are in Garland, TX (Dallas).




From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 16:52:43 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Reid A Miles)
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Subject: BC100XLT
Date: Thu, 05 Sep 1996 19:41:45 GMT
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        Can someone tell if there is a way I can upgrade my scanner,
besides adding 100 more channels.. I know uniden wont sell the 800
chip!  But is there anything else I can do to modify it so I can get
from the very low of the bands to the very high of the bands like the
BC3000XLT...  If so Please let me know..  I know there are mod on the
net for Certain things, but none of them do me anygood... I also would
like to know if there are any decent mods out for my scanner?

[e-mail]




From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 16:52:44 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Larry Levy)
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Subject: Re: BC200 XLT PROBLEM
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Hi, JG:

jg <[e-mail]> wrote:

>my nicad pack went sour and the scanner got put on a shelf and forgotr
>about for 1 1/2 years and recently went out and purchased a new batt
>pack put it on and charged it up for 17-24 hrs and i turned it on
>it just scans it will not rx anything. even if you try to get the
>squelch down/up to here static that dosent even work.it worked fine
>before the batt pack went bad.the channels were locked out when i
>refired it up so i set them for rx again.it hasnt been dropped or beat
>up.any clues? i'm not sure which way to go.and it was converted 3yrs ago
>when it was purchased. thanks for any help in advance

The same thing happened to my BC-200XLT last year, but in my case, it
happened because I did something stupid. I attached a test lead in the
wrong place and kaboom!

The symptoms were the same, would seem to scan, but would not break
squelch no matter if you even turned the squelch all the way off.

Anyway, I sent it off to be repaired at Grove and they replaced a
switching transistor and now it works fine again.

-Larry





From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 16:52:45 1996
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From: Jonathan Clough <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: BC3000XLT Manual
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In article <50o7vn$[e-mail]>
           [e-mail] "Michael Cunningham" writes:

Morning Mike,

> I mentioned this because it is not mentioned in the manual (at least
> not mine). The key is only identified as the "shift" key used for

Again, can't check on the BC-3000XLT manual but I asume other than
substituting the word "BC" for "UBC" the two manuals are the same.

On the first inside page (right hand side) is there a large diagram of the
layout on the fro of the 3000XLT - title page is "Controls and Indicators".
The button in questions is identified as "3" and cross references as
Shift/Decimal/Clear

> things like changing the audio mode. I think it would be better if the
> key had a "." on it instead of a "-".

Good eyes :-)

Can't say I'd ever noticed it wasn't quite a "."

You will find that the layout of 0-9 and a "." key is pretty much standard
to all scanners (with a little variation) and had you perhaps had something
before it would have been second nature to press the "." key but as you say
as it was your first it just threw you a little.

> It's been fun so far. Hopefully it will be more fun when I get my antenna
> up.

Sure it will, all the best


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From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 16:52:46 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Michael Alexander)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: BC3000XLT Manual
Date: Mon, 09 Sep 1996 09:10:27 -0400
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In article <50sc30$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Michael
Cunningham) wrote:

 > In article <50o7vn$[e-mail]>
> >            [e-mail] "Michael Cunningham" writes:
> >
> >
> > On the first inside page (right hand side) is there a large diagram of the
> > layout on the fro of the 3000XLT - title page is "Controls and Indicators"
.
> > The button in questions is identified as "3" and cross references as
> > Shift/Decimal/Clear
> >
>
> This page is how you described it only the button identified as "3" only
> says "Shift" beside it. It does not say "Decimal" or "Clear".
>
> On the back of the manual is says copyright 1994. Maybe it's just an
> old manual although the scanner was purchased no more than a month ago.
>
The manual for the UBC3000 also has "3. shift/decimal/clear" copyright is '95

--
Michael Alexander
[e-mail]


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 16:52:47 1996
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From: [e-mail] (David Bernazzani)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: BC3000XLT Manual
Date: Wed, 11 Sep 1996 00:46:31 GMT
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[e-mail] (NYO41ed) wrote:

>I have found problems with the priority scan feature. If you program any
>other channel besides the first channel of the bank as a priority, when
>scanning the unit will get hung up. Uniden will not acknowledge this
>problem.

Ahh... but I will.  I have written on this subject several times in
this forum.  It doesn't happen always by just moving it from the first
channel of a bank, only some combinations fail... but it's enough to
make it difficult to use.  I just keep the priority on channel 1 of
each bank and it's happy.  The 3000 appears to have the same problem
with European versions as well (mine's USA rev 0.20).  At least they
aren't just picking on us Americans :)

Dave Bernazzani
N1WSQ


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 16:52:48 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Michael Cunningham)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: BC3000XLT Manual
Date: 5 Sep 1996 22:06:18 -0600
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> u (RON)
> Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
> Subject: Re: BC3000XLT Manual
> Date: Thu, 05 Sep 96 08:19:03 EDT
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>
> >I recently bought my first scanner, a BC3000XLT, and have found a
> >couple of things in the manual that aren't explained clearly. This
> >may help other first time owners.
> >
> >1) Manual Programming (pages 10 and 11). The example frequency it shows
> >to enter is 460.150. However if you try to enter"460150" it won't
> >work. What you have to do is enter "460" then press the "SFT" key and
> >then enter "150". You can also do this when entering upper and lower
> >frequencies for a search.
>
> Mike,
>     I believe you may have entered the frequency incorrectly. Instead
> of "460150", you should have entered "460.150" (note the decimal point).
> However, you thought you were pushing the SFT key, when in actuality
> you *were* pushing the decimal point key. In the long run, you were
> doing this correctly, just not for the reason you thought.
>
>     Happy Scanning   Ron

I realize it is the "decimal" key now. It would have been nice if this
was pointed out in the manual. Nowhere did it say to press "460" "SFT"
"150". to enter the frequency. I thimk the "SFT" key should also have
a "." on it instead of a "-".

Mike


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From: [e-mail] (Michael Cunningham)
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Subject: Re: BC3000XLT Manual
Date: 5 Sep 1996 22:06:15 -0600
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> From: Jonathan Clough <[e-mail]>
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> Subject: Re: BC3000XLT Manual
> Date: Wed, 04 Sep 96 13:21:45 GMT
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> In article <50ioop$[e-mail]>
>            [e-mail] "Michael Cunningham" writes:
>
> Hi Mike,
>
> > I recently bought my first scanner, a BC3000XLT, and have found a
> > couple of things in the manual that aren't explained clearly. This
> > may help other first time owners.
> >
> > 1) Manual Programming (pages 10 and 11). The example frequency it shows
> > to enter is 460.150. However if you try to enter"460150" it won't
> > work. What you have to do is enter "460" then press the "SFT" key and
> > then enter "150". You can also do this when entering upper and lower
> > frequencies for a search.
>
> The frequency used as an example is 460 *point/decimal* 15Mhz
>
> The "SFT" key is the decimal point.
>
> Just keying in 460150 could be 46.015MHz or 460.150Mhz (as in the example),
> both of which are valid frequencies. You have to tell it where the "."
> (point) is so you key in 460 "point" 15 then enter.
>

I mentioned this because it is not mentioned in the manual (at least
not mine). The key is only identified as the "shift" key used for
things like changing the audio mode. I think it would be better if the
key had a "." on it instead of a "-".


> > 2) Unlocking All Channels after doing a search (page 31). While doing
> > a search you may lock out several frequencies and then want to unlock
> > all of them after the search. The manual says to stop the search by
> > pressing the "SRC" key and then press "L/O" for 2 seconds. What I've
> > found is that you need to press the "HLD" or "LMT" key to stop the search
> > and then the "L/O" key for 2 seconds.
>
> As you say you have to pressing the "HLD" key will stop the search.
>
> Can't speak for the BC-3000XLT manual but the UBC-3000XLT manual I have just
> looked in (uses the same examples and data) shows that you press "HLD" to
> stop the search (Diagram top right of page 31) so I assume the BC-3000XLT is
> a misprint, perhaps in time they will print a revised version.
>


It is a misprint in my manual. The same diagram shows the word "Press"
with a line pointing to the "SRC" key.


>
> > As I said this is my first scanner so please let me know if I am giving
> > out bad information.
>
> Hope you have fun.
>

It's been fun so far. Hopefully it will be more fun when I get my antenna
up.


>
> --
> Cheers,
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|
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From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 16:52:50 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Roy Golisano)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: bc3000xlt problem?
Date: Tue, 10 Sep 96 18:23:41 GMT
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Summary: Two freq's that are close, one being missed due to channel sorting??
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An interesting discovery I've found regarding the BC3000xlt - Anyone have any
comments?

Here goes:

 Nashua police has two freq. 460.1 and 460.2, both were in BANK 2.
2. When scanning, 460.200 would not become active when they broadcasted.

There would be occasions when it would, then fail ..very flakey.

3. If I put 460.2 in bank 21 (the 1st priority channel for Bank 2), It would
   catch action on 460.2 when I had priority on. Not when it was off.

4. I removed all frequencies in bank 2 , except 460.2. I'd scan bank 2 and
  others, it worked fine. I could here action on 460.2 no matter what
   channel in bank 2 it was in.

5. I then started adding in the other frequencies one at a time. Confirming
   that I could hear action on 460.2 when scanning.

6. While continuing to add my freq's into bank 2, and confirming all was well,
   I then entered a freq. of 460.1. When I did this, I then proceeded to scan
   to insure I could receive action on 460.2. NOTHING happened! I verified
   they were broadcasting on 460.2 with another radio, and it was not picking
   it up at all.

7. I then removed 460.1 from bank 2, proceeded to scan and I once again could
   receive action on 460.2!!

8. If I tried 460.105 instead of 460.1 , then scanned. I continue to be able
   to pick up action on 460.2.

To summarize, it seems that when the radio is sorting freqs in each bank, it
has some type of trouble distiguishing 460.1 from 460.2 and just blows it off?
Likewise, if I left 460.1 but changed 460.2 to 460.205 then everything works
great!

Now the big question is what's the deal? Do I have a messed up radio or is
this an inherant problem with the bc3000 and I just happen to stumble onto
this because of the freq. Im listining to??


Any comments on this? Please mail  >>       [e-mail]
Roy


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 16:52:54 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Michael R. Erb)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: BC3000XLT query
Date: Sun, 08 Sep 1996 20:13:12 -0400
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In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail]
(Michael R. Erb) wrote:

> A scannerworld catalog (#1A96) lists the BC3000XLT as including the
> following features...V.F.O.control (rotary tuner), Count Key (the number
> of times a frequency has been hit during a scan) and Weather Alert.
>
> I believe this to be in error...is it?
>
> Michael
>
> --
> =====================================================================
>                     Michael R. Erb ([e-mail])
>              East Coast Editor - Karaoke & DJ USA Magazine
>               Owner - Michael 'E' Mobile Sound, Ithaca, NY
>                        http://www.erb.baka.com


I'd like to clarify why I ask this question...apparently the UBC3000XLT
has a slightly different feature set and I'm trying to figure out what the
actual differences are between the BC and UBC versions.

It seems that the BC may have a WX button where the UBC has a TRBO button.
It's not clear to me wether the UBC has a Count Key or V.F.O. as the BC
-supposedly- has according to the scannerworld catalog.

Hope this clears up any confusion on my original post.

Michael

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                    Michael R. Erb ([e-mail])
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From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 16:52:55 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Michael R. Erb)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: BC3000XLT query
Date: Sun, 08 Sep 1996 16:51:33 -0400
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A scannerworld catalog (#1A96) lists the BC3000XLT as including the
following features...V.F.O.control (rotary tuner), Count Key (the number
of times a frequency has been hit during a scan) and Weather Alert.

I believe this to be in error...is it?

Michael

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                    Michael R. Erb ([e-mail])
             East Coast Editor - Karaoke & DJ USA Magazine
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From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 16:52:56 1996
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From: [e-mail] (NYO41ed)
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Subject: Re: BC3000XLT Reviews Please
Date: 9 Sep 1996 21:43:38 -0400
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I have had one for 5 months now and use it in the NYC Metro area. As far
as performance goes, I love it. It's one of the most functional units I
have had. I do wish the audio output were a little stronger and I wish
it's size were more like the Pro-43, etc.

I had an AOR AR-8000 for 2 days and sent it back, the BC-3000 is much
easier to program.


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 16:52:56 1996
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From: Tom Montgomery <[e-mail]>
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Date: Tue, 10 Sep 1996 09:22:50 -0700
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NYO41ed wrote:
>
> I have had one for 5 months now and use it in the NYC Metro area. As far
> as performance goes, I love it. It's one of the most functional units I
> have had. I do wish the audio output were a little stronger and I wish
> it's size were more like the Pro-43, etc.
>
> I had an AOR AR-8000 for 2 days and sent it back, the BC-3000 is much
> easier to program.

I have to agree with this. I got one a few days ago and am very pleased
with the ease of programming. Fits nicely in a celluar phone mount in
car.  I know I will have this one for a long time. Great unit !!


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 16:52:57 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Armadillo)
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Subject: Re: BC8500XLT
Date: Fri, 06 Sep 1996 04:48:08 GMT
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On Thu, 05 Sep 1996 17:32:41 GMT, [e-mail] wrote:

>     Has anyone ever heard of this scanner or better yet have one.
>I have one that I bought a few years ago.  I have been very unhappy
>with it from day one.  The audio contains lots of hiss and background
>noise.  This problem remains even after using several differnt
>antenna's.  A search of Unidens web page does not even list this
>model.
---- snip----

Ken-

Yes, welcome to the 8500 owner's club (G). I sent mine back to Uniden
for a fix and it did help the audio and sensitivity, somewhat. I have
heard of them making offers to other 8500 owners to replace it with a
9000 which is a _much_ better radio, but don't know if this was a
special case, or a matter of policy. It is, simply put, a bad design,
and they didn't do a whole lot to help it. Makes a nice door stop
though, I'm told by a friend of mine who owns one.

(G)

Ken


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 16:52:59 1996
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From: rich <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: BC8500XLT
Date: 6 Sep 1996 12:10:48 GMT
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To: [e-mail]

I have owned my BC 8500XLT for almost 4 years now.   I do not have the problem
s you r reported.d.

I really enjoy the alpha-numeric display and would only buy scanners with this
  feature.  I live
in a suburban area and have found the radio works very well.  I am also locate
d along a flight
path for the Wilkes-Barre, Scranton Airport.  Inbound flights call their appro
ach within about a
mile of my house.  All my Radio Shack Scanners are  affected by the intermodul
ation.  The 850 is
unaffected.

I still use the antenna the unit came with.  If I can offer any help please as
k.  regards...rich





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From: "Jason J. Garcia" <[e-mail]>
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Subject: BC8500XLT audio solution
Date: Sat, 07 Sep 1996 12:56:23 -0700
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Well... it's not a complete solution but a partial one. But IT WORKS.

I use mine passing the audio through a R.S. DSP40 Noise Reduction System
(Cat. #21-543 discounted right now @ $29.95 from $79.95 - selling out).
My favorite settings are: BANDWITH/medium FILTER/NR. This is a matter of
personal taste, in my opinion. You can play with the settings and find
your favorite.

Even BETTER: a MFJ-752C Audio Filter (available from a myriad of Ham
Radio and SW dealers) using its Primary Filter LP (Low Pass) position.

If I were you (or anybody else reading this posting) I would first try
the R.S. alternative (cheaper and effective).

Good luck, fellow(s)! Let me know if you did it and it worked for you.


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DOES THE 9000 HAVE "REAL" CONTINOUS COVERAGE? 25MHZ-1.3 GHZ INCLUDING CB
FREQS , TV AUDIO,AND CELLULAR INCLUDED?


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jg <[e-mail]> wrote in article <[e-mail]>...
> DOES THE 9000 HAVE "REAL" CONTINOUS COVERAGE? 25MHZ-1.3 GHZ INCLUDING CB
> FREQS , TV AUDIO,AND CELLULAR INCLUDED?
>

No, it has no cellular.

Dave


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From: Bob Dashoff <[e-mail]>
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Subject: BC9000/Crane cell mod kit?
Date: Sat, 07 Sep 1996 11:03:09 -0700
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Does anyone have experience with the Crane modification kit.  I just
ordered one for $32.00 delivered.  It comes with a video and the parts
kit for Cell restoration on the BC9000xlt.  If anyone has done this
installation before I would like to hear about how you like it.  Thanks
a lot.

                                  Bob...


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From: Karl Schultz <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: Bearcat 9000XLT
Date: Thu, 05 Sep 1996 08:59:33 -0600
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Douglas Peck wrote:
>
> I am thinking of purchasing the BC 9000XLT.  I have had some bad luck
> with Bearcat scanners in the past, but I'm willing to give them
> another try.  Any feed back would be appreciated.

Take a look at

http://www.serve.com/ida/us9000.htm

I've got one, but haven't used it enough yet to say too much about it.

So far:

- I like the front panel and controls.  This is pretty subjective, but
I usually don't need to refer to the manual often.

- The AM air band seems, again subjectively, pretty sensitive.  I can
pull in some weak ground (AWOS, ASOS) signals from pretty far away.
Of course, antenna and terrain matter.  I am pleased with this part
so far.

- I was disappointed about the sensitivity in the 2m band.  My tiny
2m HT does WAY better, but then that's what it was designed to do,
while the scanner has wider coverage.  I wish the scanner was a tad
better here, though.  So I just use the HT when I need to pull in the
really weak stuff.

I think that a serious home scanner needs to have some sort of
computer interface/control to at least program the frequency memories.
I'll probably put the 9000 in a vehicle and get something later that
has the 'puter I/F.

If you have any other more specific questions, I can try to answer them.


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From: [e-mail] (RadioGuy73)
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Subject: BIRD 43 WATTMETER  9-11
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BIRD MODEL 43 WATTMETER
N CONNECTORS
EXCELLENT CONDITION
$195


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 16:53:04 1996
From: [e-mail] (Dan Arganbright)
Subject: RE: Cell-Tracker,How does it work?
Date: 6 Sep 96 05:20:01 -0700
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To my knowledge, the Cell Tracker is only available to law
enforcement and cell phone professionals (technicians and such).  In
a nutshell, the cell tower sends a signal to the phone telling it to
switch to a certain frequency and power.  The software then captures
that information and tunes the receiving unit to the frequency of the
phone.


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 16:53:05 1996
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Question: How can the radio and t.v. stations rebroadcast the reporters in
the field on thier cellular phone feed to the station ?
I was at an event and the reporter tried to tell me they have a dedicated
bussiness frequency to the station. My Scout and AR8000 say they are on
cellular. Are they somehow exempt from the law pertaining to monitoring
cellular phone calls ?


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From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 16:53:07 1996
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From: Keith Fitzpatrick <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Charleston, SC area Freq's
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i have a few freq's for the charleston, sc area. i'm looking for more.
anything would be great. i'm also looking for some Chaleston AFB freq's
mainly the security police. thanx for any help.


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 16:53:08 1996
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From: "L.G. Shirley" <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: DEA ch. 10 in NY/NJ area??
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I was wondering what area of NJ you live in? If you're close to them,
you'll hear ch10 without any problem, it's simplex.

BTW, the DEA had exchanged radios w/Essex Cnty last night while working
on a bust. The Cnty is taking down a druggie at 1PM today, haven't heard
the DEA yet, in case you're interested.

Write me before posting anything on the DEA should you find some new
freq's. All of Nwk's channels are different from the National lists

Regards,
LGS


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        I have compiled this list myself, it is not complete. Some of the
things I am missing, and would love to have include the CID NARC channels
and the Chester City NARC channel. If anyone has additions or corrections
to the list please contact me by email. I have also had this list posted
on the WWW at the Philadelphia Area Scanner Page run by Greg Rendell.
It is located at http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/1273

Enjoy!
                   Delaware County Police Frequencies
                   __________________________________

506.7625 Police Sector 1 - Aston, Bethel Twp., Upper Chi. Marcus Hook,
                                Trainer, Lower Chi.
506.8375 Police Sector 2 - Parkside, Upland, Brookhaven, Chester Twp.
                            Newtown Twp., Upper Prov. Twp., Morton,
                            Swathmore, Nether Prov. Twp.
506.8625 Police Sector 3 - City Of Chester

508.0875 Police Sector 4 - Lansdowne, Aldan, Clifton HTS., E. Lansdowne,
                            Yeadon, Darby Boro, Colwyn, Sharon Hill,
                            Collingdale, Folcroft, Darby Twp.
508.1125 Police Sector 5 - Glenolden, Prospect Park, Norwood, Tinicum,
                            Ridley Park
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
-
508.1875 Police M 1 - Same as Sector 1

508.0625 Police M 2 - Same as Sector 2

         Police M 3 - none used by Chester. They use only S-3 or Foxtrot
                      (see below)

506.6375 Police M 4 - Same as Sector 4

506.6125 Police M 5 - Same as Sector 5
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
--
508.3375 Park/Court Police

506.3625 CID

      DATA 1 EAST 506.5625-----DATA 2 WEST 508.4375
                These channels broadcast the same thing. Referred to as
                "Clean" by police units.  Used to get license info on stops

      COUNTY 1 508.0375-----COUNTY 2 508.2375-----COUNTY 5 508.3375
                 County 3 & 4 are unknown. At least by me they are.
                 All of these channels also have other uses. (see in list)
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
-
506.7375 "Alpha" (S-1) / "Charlie" (S-4) - car to car or car to station

507.8125 "Bravo" (S-2) / "Delta" (S-5) - car to car or car to station
          Also used by Delco Prison units
508.2375 "Echo" (CID) unit-unit
          Also Sheriff's Dept. main channel (about all this dept. does
          around here is transport prisoners. They also serve warrants. This
          can be interesting to hear at night.)
506.7125 "Foxtrot" (S-3) - car to car, car to station

155.475 - The "everybody has it" channel. I have heard surveilance ops on
          this freq. at low power. Interesting listening.

 PD's dispatched individually:
 ----------------------------
500.3375  Radnor Twp.
500.6125  Springfield Twp.
506.3125  Ridley Twp./Eddystone Boro (scrambled, usually can't hear much)
453.225   Marple Twp.
453.275   Haverford Twp.
159.090   Upper Darby Twp./Milbourne Boro



~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Ben Russell                     [e-mail]         LETS
Lock Haven University           school phone: [phone]      GO
Junior, Dept. of Biology        home phone: [phone]      FLYERS!!
                                                                (N H L)
"It's true that clothes make the man. Naked people have had little or no
        lasting impact in society." -- Mark Twain
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~





From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 16:53:10 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Orca)
Subject: Re: Disneyland Trunked Frequencies
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Aaron M ([e-mail]) wrote:
: In message <[e-mail]> - [e-mail]
: (Br'er Fox)Mon, 02 Sep 1996 10:19:03 GMT writes:
: :>
: :>    Does anyone have any info on the system being currently used?
: :>Since the latest visit all major traffic has gone trunked (maybe just
: :>maybe conventional) and use what looks to be Motorola MTX. 900 MHz is
: :>the rumored system. Any info whatsoever is appreciated....


: Disneyland Security and Park Operations have moved to Disneyland's new
: Motorola 900MHz trunked system: 938.4875, .4750, .4625, .4500, .5000, .4375,
: 4250, .4125, .4000, .3875 MHz

: It appears that the data channel may rotate between the first 4 frequencies
: listed, but this is not confirmed.  Disneyland Security "CONTROL ONE" can li
nk
: different channels together (using touch CRT display on dual dispatch positi
on
: Motorola CentraCom II console).

: Disneyland Security is NO LONGER heard on 461.850 R "blue".  This frequency

Still listed this way in "Monitor America, 3rd ED. 1996

: was a high power channel with wide range coverage.  464.4625 R was also
: formerly called "BLUE" and was also used by Security.  It now appears to be
: called "SLATE" and Indiana Jones ride activity is heard.  Maintenance,

Tag for thid channel is Events 2

: Custodial, Entertainment, OUtside Vending, Monorail & steam trains, etc.,
: continue to use the UHF radio frequencies.

: Control One  Disneyland Pk Security Dispatch
: Control Two  Hotel
: CFA          Central First Aid
: Park East    Security Supervisor, park area east
: Park West    "            ", park area west
: Hub          Center quad area (w/ Walt Disney/Mickey Mouse statue)

: Marina, Bonita,
: Sierra       Disneyland Hotel tower buildings



: Radio codes:
: 101 - Ride is down
: 101V - Ride is down, (guest illness, custodial callout)
: 104 - Ride is operational
: 105 - Ride is operational, but not at full capacity.


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                 == __       o__|     |__o       __ ==
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From: [e-mail] (Aaron M)
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Subject: Re: Disneyland Trunked Frequencies
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In message <[e-mail]> - [e-mail]
(Br'er Fox)Mon, 02 Sep 1996 10:19:03 GMT writes:
:>
:>      Does anyone have any info on the system being currently used?
:>Since the latest visit all major traffic has gone trunked (maybe just
:>maybe conventional) and use what looks to be Motorola MTX. 900 MHz is
:>the rumored system. Any info whatsoever is appreciated....


Disneyland Security and Park Operations have moved to Disneyland's new
Motorola 900MHz trunked system: 938.4875, .4750, .4625, .4500, .5000, .4375,
4250, .4125, .4000, .3875 MHz

It appears that the data channel may rotate between the first 4 frequencies
listed, but this is not confirmed.  Disneyland Security "CONTROL ONE" can link
different channels together (using touch CRT display on dual dispatch position
Motorola CentraCom II console).

Disneyland Security is NO LONGER heard on 461.850 R "blue".  This frequency
was a high power channel with wide range coverage.  464.4625 R was also
formerly called "BLUE" and was also used by Security.  It now appears to be
called "SLATE" and Indiana Jones ride activity is heard.  Maintenance,
Custodial, Entertainment, OUtside Vending, Monorail & steam trains, etc.,
continue to use the UHF radio frequencies.

Control One  Disneyland Pk Security Dispatch
Control Two  Hotel
CFA          Central First Aid
Park East    Security Supervisor, park area east
Park West    "            ", park area west
Hub          Center quad area (w/ Walt Disney/Mickey Mouse statue)

Marina, Bonita,
Sierra       Disneyland Hotel tower buildings



Radio codes:
101 - Ride is down
101V - Ride is down, (guest illness, custodial callout)
104 - Ride is operational
105 - Ride is operational, but not at full capacity.



From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 16:53:15 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Steve Work)
Subject: Re: Does Radio Shack often sell used equipment as new?
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Alan Frisbie ([e-mail]) wrote:
: I am curious if Radio Shack does the same thing with scanners
: that they do with telephone answering machines: sell used
: units as if they were new?

: Does this same sort of thing happen with scanners at Radio
: Shack?

Is a pig's a$$ pork?

Why do you think that almost nothing which Radio Shack sells comes in a
sealed box?  Most everything they have (except for the blister-pak parts)
comes in some type of unsealed box where the unit can be replaced
convienently in the box and it will look reasonably like an unsold unit.
I've pretty much concluded that this is by design.  Don't we all agree
that their merchandise tends to "boomerang" after people take it home and
find it doesn't work?  And do you really think that all returns go back
to the factory to get reworked?  Do you really?  Perhaps if you do, you
might want to quit smoking the wacky weed for awhile.

The best way to avoid this is just to obey this simple rule:  If you have
more than $4 to spend, don't spend it in a Radio Shack.  Almost always
you'll find a much better equivalent product which hasn't been sold 4 or
5 times somewhere else.

And besides, don't most of us agree that the good RS scanners really are
the ones which are no longer made?  Why pay a new price for a used
scanner when you can pay a used price for better one.


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 16:53:16 1996
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From: Charles L Mankin <[e-mail]>
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The Mik wrote:
>
> I am looking for Eastern Pennsylvania and Southern New Jersey fire
> frequencies. Most importantly, if you could, I need the call signs for
> the different stations so I can know just where the transmission is
> originating from. Any info would be greatly appreciated. Please reply
> by e-mail and not to this newsgroup.
>
> Thanks
>
> MJMPost to Phl.scanner, which is the usenet for Phila scanner people. Also
if you e-mail me direct I'll get you what I have for Delaware,
Montgomery, Chester & Lancaster counties as well as Philadelphia and the
state of DE.   Chuck Mankin
Also watch for my upcoming article on scanning in the state of Delaware
in Popcomm.


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From: [e-mail] (Joseph Cardani)
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Subject: Re: Eastern Pennsylvania/South Jersey freqs
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[e-mail](The Mik) wrote:

>I am looking for Eastern Pennsylvania and Southern New Jersey fire
>frequencies. Most importantly, if you could, I need the call signs for
>the different stations so I can know just where the transmission is
>originating from. Any info would be greatly appreciated. Please reply
>by e-mail and not to this newsgroup.

>Thanks

>MJM

Hi,

Check out my South Jersey Scanner web page at:

http://www.voicenet.com/~jcardani/sjscan.htm

Joe Cardani



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From: [e-mail] (Chuck Meyer)
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In article <50hblb$[e-mail]>,
[e-mail] wrote:

(SNIP)
> Does anyone know of any computer-related product or stand-alone that will le
t
> me decipher MDT communications?  In a related question, has anybody reliably

> "cracked" DES yet?
(SNIP)
> Paul N0YPS
> [e-mail]

Paul,
As regards DES-processed voice, it's probably going to be out of our
league for a while. Perhaps with a good understanding of the operations of
a DES radio and some fast digital signal processing hardware, recordings
could be cracked in FAR worse than realtime. As for the MDT's, if your
local ones are Motorola, Investigate the Motorola Radio Data System
transcievers and RD-LAP radio modems.
You may need a communications analyser to get you a character stream and
parse the packets. Once you have the packets figgered out, then there may
be encryption on top of the packet content data. I have not seen or heard
of scannists reading MDT's yet, only "friend of a friend's uncle" stuff.
Good luck.
-- Chuck


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 16:53:19 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Ultrix)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: ENCRYPTED COMMUNICATIONS:  Expert advice sought, please.
Date: Thu, 5 Sep 1996 17:51:59 -0700
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In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail]
says...

> Far be it of me to put myself in such lofty company as Grove, Cheek or
the
> guys at Tiare (whoever they are), most experts that I've talked to
agree
> that DES has not been cracked, at least not in a way that makes it
> *feasible* in the real world.  It is only a matter of time, however. I
> know some codecrackers in Israel (including Adi Shamir, one of the guys
> who came up with the RSA crypto algorithm) have demonstrated that it is
> possible to crack DES if, you are able to trick your opponent into
> encoding a phrase that you provide and then work backwards from that.
> Certainly, if you're a government agency willing to spend the money,
you
> can build a computer using specially designed DES-cracking chips to do
it
> (it wouldn't surprise me to learn that NSA has done that). However,
that's
> not something you or I are going to buy any time soon.
>
> --
> Michael Alexander
> [e-mail]


        I have also heard that it might be possible to crack certain
encryption algorithms by obtaining a "known" encrypted phrase.  If this
is true, then cracking Mobile Data Terminals may not be as hard as once
thought.  Usually the programs on these terminals have pre-defined forms
that the officer has to fill out when submitting a report or message. I
can say that more than likely one of the fields that the officer must
always enter is either his name, badge number, or patrol car number.
Assuming this, one could capture the received packet with a scanner and a
computer, figure out which portion of the encrypted packet contained
information about the officer's name,badge number or car number (the date
would probably be a good field to use also!).  And try to reverse-decode
this field against a list of names of the officers in the police
department (or badge numbers, dates, etc.).  Once the algorithm was
determined, then all it would take would be a decryption software and a
viewer for your P.C.  Probably not a project that the average scannist
would try but if it could be done then it would definitely be a
marketable product.  (That is if you don't piss off the Local Police,
FBI,CIA,Secret Service in the process  :)

        [e-mail]


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 16:53:20 1996
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From: Karl Leite <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Extended Frequency.....
Date: 6 Sep 1996 10:20:17 -0400
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DEAR FELLOWS:

 I have an UNIDEN BC 700 A - scanner and I would like to get
 instruction manual and how to extend frequency coverage!

 Can you help me???? Please, e-mail me to below addresses!
 Thank you in advance!

 Vy best 73,
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From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 16:53:21 1996
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From: Steve Kagan <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Family Radio Service (FRS) equipment?
Date: 10 Sep 1996 00:30:49 -0400
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Not only does the new Radio Shack offering have only the seven
467 mHz channels (missing the seven 462 mHz ones), but it has no
provision for PL squelch (either tone or digital), nor can it scan.

The radio may be set internally to any one of the seven channels.
I think the user can do that with DIP switches.  But it's a
one-channel (at a time) radio.  In addition to having only a
seven-channel capability (one at a time), it cannot be programmed
from the front panel, has no channel switch, and has no tone pad.

In any case, might Radio Shack be planning a more featured radio?
The current one is a pretty high-priced Motorola-manufactured set.

Radio Shack's (license-required) GMRS radio offerings include a
Motorola-made one, plus a less-expensive, but more-featured scanning
Radio-Shack-branded model.  Neither has any type of PL (tone squelch),
though, and lacks a Touch-Tone-pad (programming) front panel.

So, could anyone post whether other manufacturers are going to
offer Family Radio Service equipment?  Those who know about that
seven-channel (one-channel-at-a-time) Radio Shack/Motorola FRS
product will agree that it's a mighty weak starting entry, indeed.
                                                                     Steve


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 16:53:22 1996
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From: "Patrick D. Lukens" <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: FCC Issues NAL
Date: Mon, 09 Sep 1996 19:55:04 -0700
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Eric Oyen wrote:
>
> [e-mail] (Eric Oyen) wrote:
>
> the use of Amateur Radio Service call sign N7ZZT and asking for a new white
cane and new eyes, among

So, do you have any personal recourse since he was falsly using your call
#s?  You musta had some fun answering the FCC's questions, no?


--
--Patrick

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From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 16:53:22 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Eric Oyen)
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"Patrick D. Lukens" <[e-mail]> wrote:


>So, do you have any personal recourse since he was falsly using your call
>#s?  You musta had some fun answering the FCC's questions, no?


>--
>--Patrick

Patrick,
you would not believe the "fun" I had. I started getting letters complaining a
bout my
activities. After I responded, it became clear that a bootlegger was using my
call and
creating some problems.

I now intend to create problems for him. I have drafted a letter back to the l
egal
services Dept. of the FCC asking them to consider additional evidence in the c
ase that
they may not be aware of. I have also requested that Since Mr. Hoffman works 2
 jobs, that
he be made to pay the entire amount as indicated in the NAL.

Hopefully, that will teach him to mess with hams.


Eric.




From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 16:53:23 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Eric Oyen)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: FCC Issues NAL
Date: Thu, 05 Sep 1996 18:14:06 GMT
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The following was received from the FCC Daily Digest for immediate
publication:
******************************************************************************
***********
Daily Digest

Vol. 15 No. 166
September 5, 1996

PHOENIX. AZ.  Issued a further notice of apparent liability in the
amount of $6,000 against Timothy Harold Hoffman, Phoenix, Arizonia,
for violations of various amateur radio rules.  Action by Chief,
Compliance Division, Compliance and Information Bureau.  Adopted:
August 30, 1996 by FNAL.  DA No. 96-1478.  CIB  Internet URL:
index.html

                                                - FCC -




From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 16:53:26 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Dr Pepper)
Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy,alt.current-events.alt.radio.scanner,rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: FLT 800: From the Rumor Mill...But It Makes Sense..
Date: Sat, 07 Sep 1996 21:55:08 GMT
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[e-mail] (Michael Rivero) wrote:

REPOSTED from alt.conspiracy.

>In article <[e-mail]>, Max Kennedy <[e-mail]> wrote:
>>[e-mail] (Michael Rivero) wrote:
>>
>>>  If it's outside the reserved military airspace, it's not an intentional
>>>target. The instant the missile track headed outside the military
>>>reservation, the operator would have had to have known something was amiss.
>>
>>The problem is, the military has been having target practice too close
>>to shore and near commercial flight paths.  There's been complaints
>>about it before, but it still goes on.
>>
>>Max Kennedy
>>
>>

>  We had the same problem in Los Angeles. The area used for training private
>pilots north of Newhall abuts the Edwards military reservation which connects
>to the Skunkworks via a corridor running under the Los Angeles to Las Vegas
>corridor. There have been a few incidents where the military gang have ventur
ed
>outside their assigned playsky, including an incident where a United Airlines
>747 was nearly rammed by a supersonic delta-winged craft that nobody ever
>admitted owning.

And then (In California), there is the corridor that goes North along
the Eastern slope of the Sierras from Mojave to Reno.  Part way up,
there is R-2508 MOA which is the live fire area at China Lake. This is
bordered by Inyokern Airport, which has a lot of glider activity.
Mixed in with this is a High speed, low level corridor (North/South)
Talk about a nightmare!  Last weekend, a glider from Reno got on the
ranges, and the range controller couldn't get him off.  They finally
got his frequency, and told him in NO uncertain terms that a Harrier
was above him dropping bombs!  He got smart aleky, and things went
down hill from there.  They are sure gonna get HIM!


>  But these incidents involve piloted vehicles that simply got going too fast
.

>  In the case of the Aegis system, there is an operator who is watching both
>the missile and the target(s) on a tactical display system that also includes
>overlays for things like the civilian air traffic corridors (for reasons whic
h
>should be obvious.


>  If the operator saw the missile headed towards the wrong target, or crossin
g
>into the civilian corridor, he or she had the option to shut down the
>illuminator.

>  This is why I do not think the Aegis story credible.

>--
>PIXELODEON PRODUCTIONS | Hand Hammered Special Effects
>Mike & Claire - The Rancho Runnamukka http://www.accessone.com/~rivero
>If nominated I will not run. If elected I will not serve.  :)

Dr Pepper
10 - 2 - 4




From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 16:53:27 1996
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From: George Andrews <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: FOR SALE
Date: Fri, 06 Sep 1996 07:30:14 -0300
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I have a Kenwood TH26AT Handheld VHF (fully modified to transmit/receive
100 - 200 Mhz (GREAT SCANNER) with following accessories:

        2.5w Battery woth charger
        5.0w Battery with desk-top charger
        5/8 telescopic antenna
        rubber duck antenna
        extneded speaker mike
        hard leather case
        manual

Price: $350.00 Canadian dollars


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 16:53:28 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Gene McAvoy)
Newsgroups: alt.radio.scanner,rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Free FCC Databases from ScanWare
Date: Sat, 07 Sep 1996 18:25:12 GMT
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Yup...you read it right, FREE.

Check it out today at:

        http:/www.oz.net/~gmcavoy/index.html

We've got a 5 meg limit on WWW space for this project.
Extra megs are $2 each per month.  Which is a bit more than
We're willing (able) to spend for this FREE project.
We're NOT askin' for money here!  So, if you don't see the
state data you want...you can just be patient.
As we find the time and the resources...we'll post all the states.

Questions/Comments...email us.

73 to all...
Gene McAvoy / KG7XD
Matt Amis / AA7LP

ScanWare Associates
PO Box 1743
Silverdale, WA 98383-1743






From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 16:53:29 1996
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From: Bob Waller <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: FREQ For Moreno Valley
Date: Tue, 10 Sep 1996 10:08:14 -0700
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Samuel Diaz, Jr. wrote:
>
>         Does anyone have interesting frequencies for the Riverside and
> Moreno Valley area (California) other than police and fire.Try 463.5125, I b
elieve thats the Town Gate Mall

Also try the 800mhz NTAC (National Tactical) Freqs.
The Surveillance activity by the Riv S.O. on these is high.

Good Scanning.

Bob


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 16:53:30 1996
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From: Roland.Stiner%1:2619/211.9 (Roland Stiner%1:2619/211.9)
Date: 02 Sep 96 08:07:00
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Subject: frequencies for Michigan Wanted                             N
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To: Roland Stiner%1:2619/211.9%12:320/100.666
From: [e-mail] (Roland Stiner)
Organization: MAG Systems, Inc/TFP BBS
Subject: frequencies for Michigan Wanted                             N


D>     I just got a scanner for my birthday today and would appreciate
 >anyone sending me information on frequencies & codes for my area  ( Grand
 >Rapids Michigan  )

Best thing to do is to run to Radio Shack and get Police Call for your
area.  Everything's in there.

---
   OLX 1.53   -------------->    73, de NK2U    <----------------

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From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 16:53:31 1996
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From: "Bernard AndrΘ" <[e-mail]>
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Subject: frequencies needed for Belgium
Date: 9 Sep 1996 15:41:23 GMT
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Hi there, I am looking for frequencies in Belgium.
Can someone help ?
--
Bernard AndrΘ


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 16:53:32 1996
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From: Richard Venables <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: alt.radio.scanner,rec.radio.scanner,rec.radio.swap
Subject: FS/ WS1000 Hanheld Scanner
Date: Fri, 06 Sep 1996 06:14:22 +0100
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I have a new in box Diamond/Welz WS1000 scanner for sale. I purchased
the unit new from Javiation. Full coverage,no blocks. Never used except
in home. Perfect condition! Org. box and manual.

$325 firm +shipping

E-mail if interested
[e-mail]


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 16:53:33 1996
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From: Tom.Montgomery.%1:2619/211.9 (Tom Montgomery %1:2619/211.9)
Date: 02 Sep 96 21:08:06
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: FS: ACARS program and decoder
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To: Tom Montgomery %1:2619/211.9%12:320/100.666
From: Tom Montgomery <[e-mail]>
Subject: FS: ACARS program and decoder
Organization: Netcom

I have for sale an unregistered AEA ACARS decoder, program (3.5 floppy),
and instruction book. It was 100.00 new, will sell for $65.00.
COD...you pay shipping.(very light) All you need is the radio and
computer !

[e-mail]

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From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 16:53:34 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Susan)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.swap,,rec.radio.scanner,,alt.radio.scanner
Subject: FS: AOR2500 , TR4500 , IC2GXAT , BC560XLT , TRC207 CBs
Date: 6 Sep 1996 07:09:20 -0400
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I'm selling the following: ( Prices Lowered 9/5/96 )

AOR 2500     - $400 obo
TRIDENT 4500 - $400 obo

Or will trade for AOR800 or PRO 2006 or PRO 43

Both are in excellent condition.
Full Cellular, AM/FM/NFM/SSB




OTHER STUFF:


ICOM 2GXAT 2m extended RX - $200

2 RS TRC-207 40 ch handheld CBs - $85 for both.

Bearcat 560xlt 16 ch scanner - $60




E-mail any questions.

Richard Reider


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 16:53:34 1996
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Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: FS: Bearcat BC-9000XLT New!
Date: Tue, 10 Sep 1996 21:55:44 -0700
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Bearcat BC-9000XLT New Scanner!
25Mhz -1300 Mhz AM, FM, FM wide

This is a new in the box scanner.
Purchased mail order a Two weeks ago for $389 Plus shipping.
Will sell for $369 Plus shipping.
The Price is Firm.

Reason for selling.  I purchased a new Surround Sound
Receiver and find myself listening to the stereo more than the scanner.

Receives cellular in the 376 Mhz range great!
(image)

All manuals, box,and power adapter.

Like I said this radio is New! Not a scratch!

216-883-3879 Home
216-433-5590 Work Days


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 16:53:35 1996
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Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: FS: ICOM R1
Date: 5 Sep 1996 19:08:03 -0700
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ICOM R1 handheld scanner:  .1 to 1300 Mhz no blocks or skips.  100 channel mem
ory, clock, timer, and more.
Comes with extra batt pack and extra ant for cell phone pick up.  Excellent co
ndtion with boxes and book.
$350.00 plus shiping.


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 16:53:36 1996
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From: D.Stark%1:2619/211.9%12:320/100.666 (D Stark%1:2619/211.9%12:320/100.666)
Date: 03 Sep 96 21:57:26
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From: [e-mail] (D Stark)
Subject: FS: monitors
Organization: NF2G Enterprises

Motorola MO-3 on 154.130 MHz with reeds DzHz/JzCz
(Rochester, NY FD Protectives and second alarm tones).
$90.00

Plectron Chief on 47.580 MHz with National Ambulance
"disaster" and "news media" tones.
$60.00

$100.00 for both

716.254.1726
[e-mail]
http://www.frontiernet.net/~dstark/



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From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 16:53:37 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Drew Durigan)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: FS: PRO 2026 MOBILE CELL MODIFIABLE
Date: 6 Sep 1996 20:54:29 GMT
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[e-mail] (Blue dot 9) wrote:
>
>I have a Pro 2026 mobile scanner  that is an "A" code.  This means it
>doesn't have the built in cable but a DC jack (allows for home use).
The
>manufacture date code is 11A3--which means that this is the most
desirable
>version of this scanner.  Please note that the "B" code version is not
>cell modifiable.
>
>Item is new..from RS and is still in the original box, and is a VIRGIN
in
>terms of modifications!  You do the mod yourself or I'll do it for you.

>You be the judge.
>
>Asking price is $180 firm.
>
>I am not making any money off of this puppy, I am just providing a
service
>to those who wish to have a non-ECPA enforced scanner.



Hmmm....are you SURE you're "not making any money?"

This particular scanner has been offered several times in the past year
for the closeout price of $139.95-$149.95, brand new in the box.  Last
time it was on sale, I checked the neighborhood Radio Shack, just for fun,
 and found no fewer than 6 out of the available 14 units had a date code
earlier than 4A4 (meaning they were fully modifiable.)

-Drew in Sunny Central Florida-






From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 16:53:38 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Blue dot 9)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: FS: PRO 2026 MOBILE CELL MODIFIABLE
Date: 6 Sep 1996 11:45:58 -0400
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I have a Pro 2026 mobile scanner  that is an "A" code.  This means it
doesn't have the built in cable but a DC jack (allows for home use).  The
manufacture date code is 11A3--which means that this is the most desirable
version of this scanner.  Please note that the "B" code version is not
cell modifiable.

Item is new..from RS and is still in the original box, and is a VIRGIN in
terms of modifications!  You do the mod yourself or I'll do it for you.
You be the judge.

Asking price is $180 firm.

I am not making any money off of this puppy, I am just providing a service
to those who wish to have a non-ECPA enforced scanner.

Disclaimer:  LISTENING TO CELL CONVERSATIONS IS ILLEGAL IN THE 50 UNITED
STATES!  I am not responsible if you get busted.

Note: I also have a Uniden Bearcat BC200XLT handheld, used, in pristine
condition, cell modifiable with original case.  Price is $120 firm.

Shipping is ~$8.00 UPS GROUND.

Dave


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 16:53:39 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Drew Durigan)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: FS: PRO 2026 MOBILE CELL MODIFIABLE (flame on)
Date: 10 Sep 1996 18:00:17 GMT
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>>I am not selling Radio Shack's shit I am selling the shit I have at
HOME.
>>I don't need to go into great lengths to tell you how/where/when I
bought
>>this scanner, but I can tell you I am LOSING dollars.

That is of no concern to me, and has absolutely nothing to do with
today's market value of the scanner.

Let's try this...how would you like to buy my computer?  It's one of the
first 100Mhz Pentiums ever produced.  State-of-the-art in February, 1995,
with 16 megs of RAM, 1.275gig hard drive, 14.4 fax/modem, and a QUAD-
Speed CD-ROM.  I paid $2799.95 for the computer alone.

I'll sell it to you for "what I paid", "my cost!"  That's right...I'm not
making any money on the deal.  In fact, I'll give it to you for an even
$2800 and you even save the sales tax!

Such a deal!

-Drew in Sunny Central Florida-



From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 16:53:40 1996
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From: [e-mail] (William A Charette)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: FS: PRO 2026 MOBILE CELL MODIFIABLE (flame on)
Date: 11 Sep 1996 02:37:17 -0500
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[e-mail] (Drew Durigan) writes:


>That is of no concern to me, and has absolutely nothing to do with
>today's market value of the scanner.

>Let's try this...how would you like to buy my computer?  It's one of the
>first 100Mhz Pentiums ever produced.  State-of-the-art in February, 1995,
>with 16 megs of RAM, 1.275gig hard drive, 14.4 fax/modem, and a QUAD-
>Speed CD-ROM.  I paid $2799.95 for the computer alone.

>I'll sell it to you for "what I paid", "my cost!"  That's right...I'm not
>making any money on the deal.  In fact, I'll give it to you for an even
>$2800 and you even save the sales tax!

>Such a deal!

>-Drew in Sunny Central Florida-

*DROOOOOOOL*


I'LL TAKE 4 PLEASE!!!!

just kidding

Anyway...just a notice.  Around Christmas (my girlfriend advance offered
to get me a scanner....what a sweetie) I'll be in the market for a scanner
that is:

a) Factory cellular enabled
b) modified
-or-
c) easily modifiable (as in clipping a resistor...I don;t want to burn
eproms or replace components or whatever)

My preferences would be either a pro-51, or a pro-43 or the BCXLT3000
(number sic)

or whatever a higher end Bearcat is

I'm prolly gonna have $150-200 at my disposal

SOOOO

If anyone anticipates the need to sell such an item long about
November/December, keep me in mind.  I'll be prowling the groups daily
to find that perfect little gem, after I get the buying OK from her.

If for any reason anyone here wants to contact me at that time, my email
is [e-mail] (altho replying to this post will work too)

I'll be posting another post like this around that time too.

Am I too anxious? maybe



-Bill



From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 16:53:41 1996
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From: Ron M <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner,rec.radio.swap,alt.radio.scanner
Subject: FS: PRO-43 Handheld Scanner
Date: Wed, 11 Sep 1996 07:14:50 -0700
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For Sale:
Like new pro-43 handheld scanner with leather case and wall adapter.
Cellular capable! $325.00 obo.


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 16:53:42 1996
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From: Jim Wayda <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner,rec.radio.swap,alt.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: FS: PRO-43 Handheld Scanner
Date: Wed, 11 Sep 1996 08:23:25 -0700
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Ron M wrote:
>
> For Sale:
> Like new pro-43 handheld scanner with leather case and wall adapter.
> Cellular capable! $325.00 obo.

Is this Canadian Dollars? A PRO-43 is mint condition is worth $250.00
at most.

Jim Wayda
Captain, Scanner Price Police


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 16:53:43 1996
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From: [e-mail] (tyler)
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Subject: Re: FS: PRO-43 Handheld Scanner
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In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] says...
>
>For Sale:
>Like new pro-43 handheld scanner with leather case and wall adapter.
>Cellular capable! $325.00 obo.

$325?  I bought mine new for $289.   What's the catch?



From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 16:53:44 1996
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From: Glenn    compuserve 70414,2514 <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner,rec.radio.swap
Subject: FS: UNIDEN FPH510 PORT. CORRECTION
Date: 8 Sep 1996 12:43:52 GMT
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FOR SALE:  4 UNIDEN FPH510DT 5 WATT, 10 CHANNEL PORTABLE RADIOS
             WITH CTCSS. INCLUDES RAPID CHARGERS.  ASKING PRICE
             SHOULD HAVE BEEN $130.00 EACH.

           1 UNIDEN FPH516 5 WATT, 16 CHANNEL PORTABLE RADIO WITH
             CTCSS, SCAN AND DTMF PAD.  INCLUDES RAPID CHARGER.
             ASKING PRICE SHOULD HAVE BENN $160.00.

REPLY TO GLENN AT [e-mail]


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 16:53:44 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Blue dot 9)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: FS: USED UNIDEN BEARCAT BC200XLT
Date: 6 Sep 1996 11:49:42 -0400
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 I have a BC200XLT handheld scanner, used, cell modifiable, w/original
carry-case, in pristine condition.  Either I do the mod or you do it
yourself.  You be the judge.

Asking price is $120 firm.
Shipping is ~$8.00.

Disclaimer:  LISTENING TO CELL CONVERSATIONS IS ILLEGAL IN THE 50 UNITED
STATES.  I am not responsible if you get busted.

Dave



From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 16:53:45 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Don E. Knowlton)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: FS:R-10 $150.00
Date: 10 Sep 1996 11:20:43 -0500
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For Sale: Opto-Electronics R-10. Mint condition.
Asking $150. will pay shipping in lower 48.
if interested e-mail [e-mail]


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 16:53:46 1996
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From: "John.Mackey.KA0SSF" <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Gain Antennas and the 5/8 wave
Date: Sun, 01 Sep 1996 21:18:55 -0500
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Hugh Duff wrote:

> Sorry for my stupid oversight.  Forgot to mention that a 1/4 wave antenna ha
s gain,
> too, almost as much as a 5/8 wave, but not quite.  1/4 wave antennas are eas
ier to
> match than 5/8 waves.

I'm just going off memory but it seems to me that:

A 5/8 wave antenna has a 3 DB gain.  (This is, of course, DBi)
A 1/4 wave antenna is considered unity (0) gain.

For what ever it is worth, a 1/2 wave has 2.4 DB gain.


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 16:53:47 1996
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From: [e-mail] (F. Barry Mulligan)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Georgia Frequencies
Date: 10 Sep 1996 11:41:55 GMT
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"Uncle L" <[e-mail]> asked for:
> ... any frequencies from the Georgia area as a whole.

    Other than a few intersystem channels and the GSP frequencies, you won't
find much that's statewide. For the metro Atlanta area, download the Atlanta
Area Frequencies file, available as:

      ftp://oak.oakland.edu  /pub/hamradio/docs/misc/  atlanta.freq
 -or-
      CompuServe   Hamnet   Lib 2   ATL-AR.ZIP
                                                             /* barry /&


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 16:53:48 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Bob)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Georgia Frequencies
Date: Wed, 11 Sep 1996 10:12:20 GMT
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Email me with what you are interested in. I have a large collection of
Atlanta and Geogia frequencies.


"Uncle L" <[e-mail]> wrote:

>Does anyone have any frequencies for The Gerogia area?  I have found a site o
n the WWW that has a
>listing for the Hartsfield airport frequencies.  i am looking for any frequen
cies from the
>Georgia area as a whole.  thanks guys
>--
>~!@#$%^&*()_+?><":|}{=-\][';/.,`+_)(*&^%$#@!~/,.';\[]=0-````````~...***//
>_______________________________________________________
>Da Clique is here!!!  Da Clique will always be here!!!  Da Clique rules!!!!!
>Do you have a FEAR OF A BLACK PLANET????????????
>Chuck D.....Terminator X.....Flavor Flav.....Security of the First World....
>--------------_-________-------______-------_____---__---__-__--_--_--_____--
-



From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 16:53:49 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Michael Cunningham)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Grounding 9913
Date: 5 Sep 1996 22:06:12 -0600
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I will be using 9913 or similar coax on my scanner antenna. How do I
ground this type of coax?

When I put up my TV antennas I used RG6 and I used a grounding block
from RS to ground the coax before it enters the house. The grounding
block accepts F-56 connectors.

Since 9913 or similar coax uses PL-259 connectors how do I ground it
before it comes into the house? Is there a grounding block made that
accepts PL-259 connectors?

Mike


---
 ■ NFX v1.3 [000]



From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 16:53:50 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Bill Cheek)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: GROW UP B. CHEEKS
Date: Tue, 10 Sep 1996 01:24:19 GMT
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[e-mail] (Flatted5th) wrote:

>WHY ARE YOU DOING THIS?! THIS GROUP WAS *FINE* UNTIL YOU SHOWED UP!!
>UNDERSTAND?? FINE!!  AND YOU ACT LIKE YOU DONT GET THE
>CONNECTION.....YOU'RE A CREEP FOR DOING THIS AND I HOPE YOUR DAMM
>'BUSINESS' GOES BUST AND YOU ALON WITH IT.
>I WILL NEVER BUY ANOTHER THING WITH THE NAME BILL CHEEKS ON IT AND WILL
>TELL EVERYONE WHO ASKS THAT YOU ARE AN ASSHOLE WITH A HEAD THE SIZE OF A
>HOUSE.
>YOUR TURN, WEE WILLIE (YOU CANT LET ONE GO BY...HA!)

My, my, FlattHead, aren't we getting a little chapped?  Sounds like
you're a bit constipated and can't go poo-poo, and got it all backed
up into your esophagus.

Poor, poor fellow.  THAT's some serious business.  Would you like me
to look up a good proctologist for you?




From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 16:53:51 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Flatted5th)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: GROW UP B. CHEEKS
Date: 10 Sep 1996 20:09:29 -0400
Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364)
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[e-mail] (Bill Cheek) wrote

>My, my, FlattHead, aren't we getting a little chapped?
>Sounds like
>you're a bit constipated and can't go poo-poo, and got it >all backed
>up into your esophagus.

>Poor, poor fellow.  THAT's some serious business.  Would >you like me
>to look up a good proctologist for you?

WELL YOU WOULD KNOW ABOUT ALL THAT BUTT STUFF WOULDNT YOU WILLIE. STILL
SAY POO POO WILLIE? ITS CALLED SHIT. AND YOUR FULL OF IT. SCRAM.




From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 16:53:51 1996
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From: Roland.Stiner%1:2619/211.9 (Roland Stiner%1:2619/211.9)
Date: 02 Sep 96 12:45:00
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: HARBOR MASTER
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Organization: WoodyWare Software, Inc.
Lines: 23

To: Roland Stiner%1:2619/211.9%12:320/100.666
From: [e-mail] (Roland Stiner)
Organization: MAG Systems, Inc/TFP BBS
Subject: HARBOR MASTER


Can someone tell me "typically" which frequency the harbor master uses
when he's on a cruse ship directing the tug boats?  I have seen the
harbor master on the QE2 in NY harbor but could not find the frequency
(he was talking!)
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From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 16:53:52 1996
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From: "Shane Higgenbotham" <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Help for a new scanner user
Date: 11 Sep 1996 08:09:21 GMT
Organization: Higgenbotham Technical Services
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Mike <[e-mail]> wrote in article
<5128gp$[e-mail]>...
>         Hi. I am interesting in buying a scanner to hear whats going on.
This
> stuff is new to me, and I was wondering if anyone could help me out. I am

> looking for a good scanner for $100 or under. I would prefer a handheld
also.
>         Could someone just explain to me how many channels is
> suitable, frequencies etc? I am interested in having the ability to
listen in
> to most everything, plus aircraft. I have *no* idea about any of this,
and
> would appreciate some guidance. And also, just curious - how far can a
scanner
> receive from?
>
>         You can email or post back to this group, but *any* help would be

> greatly appreciated! Thank you!

Mike,

When I started out in the scanner hobby I made several mistakes. First of
all I too wanted to spend $100 or less, which since it was a gamble whether
I would enjoy the hobby seemed reasonable at the moment. Over the years and
as technology advanced I was constantly upgrading/improving and now have a
trail of scanners and a fearful amount of money invested. So,  knowing what
I know now if I had it to do over again I would have plunged deep into the
reaches of the wallet and went whole-hog.
(I think)

Being more logical, your scanner needs mostly depend upon what you are
interested in hearing, police, fire, emergency/medical, cellular and so on.
So first, investigate for instance the frequencies that your local police
use most frequently and go from there.

Best Regards,
Shane

P.S. The above is simply an opinion based on my very own experience. Most
certainly yours and others will differ. Nonetheless I hope RF scanning
becomes an experience as enjoyable to you as it has to me.



From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 16:53:53 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Bunny and/or Roy)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Help with FCC application
Date: 6 Sep 1996 15:30:19 GMT
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I'm trying to figure out how to fill out the application for a license
for my 154mhz handhelds.  If anyone understands this thing and can
take a little time to talk me through it via e-mail, I'd appreciate
the help.

Roy

--
"Papa Hegel he say that all we learn from history is that we learn nothing
from history.  *I* know people who can't even learn from what happened this
morning.  Hegel must have been taking the long view."
                                      (John Brunner, "Stand on Zanzibar")


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 16:53:54 1996
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From: [e-mail]
Newsgroups: alt.radio.scanner,rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Help!  My Pro-43 is dead...
Date: Tue, 10 Sep 1996 19:01:43 GMT
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Hi, everyone:

My pro-43 died about 2 wks ago, I replaced 2 MA862 (Surface mounted
Silicon diode, marked D101, D110) with 4 IN4148 (Fasting switching
silicon, because I can't locate any other SMT replacements ) with the
help from the service manual.  I checked the rest of diodes and
transistors and found no defective parts so far.  Now I can't pick up
anything on 800Mhz or 50MHz.. and the receiption on VHF is very
poor...

I am suspecting maybe it's faulty on RF front-end (Q104, Q105), but
both checked out ok with diode tests.


Does anyone have any experience repairing Pro-43?

Any tips or comments are appreciated.

thanks.

Sufon.
(e-mail: [e-mail])



From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 16:53:55 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Sweeper44)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Help! Need freq!!!
Date: 10 Sep 1996 14:35:35 -0400
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Looking for FBI, ATF, any Federal Gov freq for S.E Michigan and the
Canton, Mi area. I have the local, pd, state and county. But nothing on
the fed area.

Thank for any help in advance!!

Jim


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 16:53:56 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Bill Cheek)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: help!!! (mods for pro-34)
Date: Tue, 10 Sep 1996 15:07:54 GMT
Organization: COMMtronics Engineering/World Scanner Report
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"chris callahan" <[e-mail]> wrote:

>I just completed the 800MHz restoration on my pro-34 and lost 30-54MHz
>band. Other than that the mods seem to be working!!

You clipped the wrong diode.  Resolder it and clip the other one next
to it.

Bill Cheek
Scannst Extraaordinaaire



From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 16:53:57 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Len Anderson)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: HELP: Antenna Tuner D
Date: Wed,  4 Sep 1996 21:05:00 GMT
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
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JH>From: [e-mail] (Jeffrey Herman)
JH>Subject: Re: HELP: Antenna Tuner Design Needed

JH>                 +----------+
JH>                 |          |
JH>                 |          |
JH>                 |          V
JH>    +  <---------*UUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU*--------*  To long wire antenna
JH>                            L1         |

   This is a crosspost from rec.radio.amateur and the values won't work
   well at scanner frequencies which are 30+ MHz.

   Note:  I see a LOT of crossposts from rec.radio.amateur on both the
   scanner and shortwave newsgroups.  How do those things happen?  Some
   ISP that collapses several groups into one?  ???

---
 * OLX 2.1 * Now, THIS is a tagline!


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 16:53:58 1996
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From: [e-mail] (chainsaw)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: How to calculate Image Frequencies??
Date: Fri, 06 Sep 1996 19:03:38 GMT
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Hi,my friend has a Pro-51,this is a dual conversion scanner
so images are there.
How would I calculate the frequency range of 824-849 MHz??
The 869-895 range can be searched directly through the well
known kepad trick,but he is interested in the 824-849 range.
What "range" of frequencies should he search through?
We are both in Canada,in case of concern for the ECPA which does not
exist here.

                          Thanxx for any input given!!




From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 16:53:59 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Jim Fordyce)
Newsgroups: alt.radio.scanner,rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Huge list of scanning-related URLs Part 0/3
Date: 8 Sep 1996 17:07:45 GMT
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I'm posting my compilation of scanning-related URL's in 3 parts.  All the URL'
s
on the list are on my links page (http://www.li.net/~j4dice/links.html).  Feel

free to drop me any URL's that I've missed.

Jim



From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 16:54:00 1996
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From: Bill Crocker <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Icom  IC-R7100 anyone?
Date: Sat, 07 Sep 1996 20:56:09 -0500
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To: Bart Wessel <[e-mail]>

Bart Wessel wrote:
>
> Hello all,
>
> This may not be *quite* the right group, but is as close as I thought I'd ge
t.
>
> Is there anyone who has the IC-R7100 who can tell me about how it performs i
n
> practice? Things like selectivity, strong-signal behaviour and such are hard
 to
> read from a leaflet.
>
> And what about the 25 MHz - 2000 MHz range, which is only guaranteed between
> 25-1000 and 1240-1300 MHz? What does it do in the remainder of the range?
>
> *Did* anyone tie it up to a Scout?
>
> E-mail would be fine. But please do use the group if we can all learn from i
t.
>
> Groetjes,
>
>                Bart.


Bart:

One thing is for sure...it's mechanical band switching relays will drive
you crazy while scanning.  Click'it'ty'Clack...

Bill Crocker


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 16:54:01 1996
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From: [e-mail] (tyler)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Improve RS DISCONE with a wire? HELP!
Date: 6 Sep 1996 15:00:43 GMT
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I've heard it's possible to improve a Rat Shack Discone antenna with a wire on

the top of it. I've seen other discones in this configuration.  What would be
design considerations in the length of the rod at the top?  Would it
effectively be a 1/4 wave whip? Any help would be greatly appreciated! Thanks
in advance.  tyler



From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 16:54:02 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Bill Cheek)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Improve RS DISCONE with a wire? HELP!
Date: Sat, 07 Sep 1996 16:38:43 GMT
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[e-mail] (Garry Hobart) wrote:

>On 6 Sep 1996 15:00:43 GMT, [e-mail] (tyler) wrote:
>
>>I've heard it's possible to improve a Rat Shack Discone antenna with a wire
on
>>the top of it.

>I attached a RS CB whip to the center conducter of the discone. Works
>great.

You wouldn't want to tell him WHERE you picked up on that neat little
hack, now would you?

Nooooo, of course not.   :-)

Bill Cheek
Author of ('er never mind)



From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 16:54:03 1996
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From: [e-mail] (m. mattson)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Improve RS DISCONE with a wire? HELP!
Date: Sun, 08 Sep 1996 04:31:15 GMT
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>>I attached a RS CB whip to the center conducter of the discone. Works
>>great.

>You wouldn't want to tell him WHERE you picked up on that neat little
>hack, now would you?

>Nooooo, of course not.   :-)

>Bill Cheek
>Author of ('er never mind)

Oh come on Bill.  I did mine after seeing one in the Grove catalogue.
You have my utmost respect, but there are other sources out there.

Mark

The truth as I perceive it to be.
Your perception will be different.




From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 16:54:04 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Garry Hobart)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Improve RS DISCONE with a wire? HELP!
Date: Sun, 08 Sep 1996 18:37:37 GMT
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On Sat, 07 Sep 1996 16:38:43 GMT, [e-mail] (Bill Cheek) wrote:

>[e-mail] (Garry Hobart) wrote:
>
>>On 6 Sep 1996 15:00:43 GMT, [e-mail] (tyler) wrote:
>>
>>>I've heard it's possible to improve a Rat Shack Discone antenna with a wire
 on
>>>the top of it.
>
>>I attached a RS CB whip to the center conducter of the discone. Works
>>great.
>
>You wouldn't want to tell him WHERE you picked up on that neat little
>hack, now would you?
>
>Nooooo, of course not.   :-)
>
>Bill Cheek
>Author of ('er never mind)
>

Can you say Icom, Bill? Our local radio shop has one on their roof.
After talking to the owner of the store, it wasn't a giant leap of
logic, to add a CB antenna, to the top of my existing discone.

BTW, Bill, you say that you NEVER start the flames, you only respond
to them. If that is true, then what is the above post, but an attempt
to start trouble? Or were you lying about never starting it? Maybe,
you are just so lame, you don't know what you are doing?

Now let me give you a clue, Bill. You don't like what I have to say?
No problem. Simply right click on this post, scroll over to "usenet
filters", click on "add kill filter". I think even you, can wade thru
the rest of the job. End of problem. Hey, I did as much for you. ;-)
Had to go back and retrieve this post, since it was so amusing. :-)

Garry
----------------------------------------------
Principles aren't of much account anyway, except at election time.
After that you hang them up to let them season.
Mark Twain (1835-1910)


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 16:54:05 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Garry Hobart)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Improve RS DISCONE with a wire? HELP!
Date: Sat, 07 Sep 1996 02:20:24 GMT
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On 6 Sep 1996 15:00:43 GMT, [e-mail] (tyler) wrote:

>I've heard it's possible to improve a Rat Shack Discone antenna with a wire o
n
>the top of it. I've seen other discones in this configuration.  What would be

>design considerations in the length of the rod at the top?  Would it
>effectively be a 1/4 wave whip? Any help would be greatly appreciated! Thanks

>in advance.  tyler
>

I attached a RS CB whip to the center conducter of the discone. Works
great. You need to make an adapter sleve for the connection between
the two antennas. This isn't much problem, if you have the proper
tools. I would send the sleve to a machine shop, if you are not
familiar with drilling, and the use of taps and dies. Anyway, this mod
really improved reception in the VHF range. You could tune the added
antenna to any freq (from about 27Mhz up) that you want.

Garry
----------------------------------------------
Principles aren't of much account anyway, except at election time.
After that you hang them up to let them season.
Mark Twain (1835-1910)


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 16:54:06 1996
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From: [e-mail]
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: infos for Winradio ?
Date: Sun, 08 Sep 1996 01:49:48 GMT
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I want to buy the Winradio , but i want to know it is a good thing for
the price

I have a Yupiteru MVT7100 and did he have the sames performances than
the Winradio ?  ( the computer dont makes qrm in the reciever ? )

Thanks for all
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From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 16:54:06 1996
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From: Tracy Justus <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: Just Who Is Biased Here?
Date: Sat, 07 Sep 1996 04:33:17 -0700
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Porchnoy wrote:
> Tracy Justus wrote:
> > If they arrested these whackos, there wouldn't be any members of the
> > press
> > left! :)
> Would that be the liberal-biased media we always hear about?

Twas just a joke.
I'm not predjudice, I hate everyone equaly :)

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From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 16:54:07 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Larry Jandro)
Subject: Re: KANADIAN DOLLARS
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Porchnoy <[e-mail]> wrote:
>[e-mail] wrote:
>
>> Boy, do you people in the US of A have it tough.  Imagine, PAYING for a
>> RS catalog.
>Boy, you people in Kanada have it sooooooo good.  What with
>your STRONG Kanadian dollar and your NATIONAL sales tax on
>top of provincial SALES TAX.  Ohhhhhhhh, I wish I lived in
>Kanada.

Sorry, but I recently heard this (somewhat different) and can't resist...

Two Canadians meet on the street.  One is carrying a cheap broken scanner.
The other says, "Got yerself a nice scanner, ay.."  The first replies, "Got
it for my wife."  Second one says, "Good trade, ay..!"

Larry Jandro, Owner [On the office Gateway]
*       LJ Video Engineering       *      WARNING...!!!      *
*        near San Francisco        *  Keyboard Not Attached  *
*  http://www.ljvideo.com/larryj   *  Press F10 To Continue. *


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 16:54:08 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Nick Marsh)
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Subject: Kenwood RZ-1 full coverage receiver FS or FT
Date: 6 Sep 1996 12:51:43 GMT
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I have a like new Kenwood RZ-1 wide band receiver for sale for trade.

Coverage is continuous from 500khz to 905mhz, no gaps, full cellular.
100 memory channels with frequency or alpha tag.
Keyboard entry of frequency.
Modes are AM, NFM, WFM.
Different scan modes, seek, carrier, time, audio.
Steps in 5khz, 12.5khz, 25khz.
Stero FM line out jacks on rear panel.
Composite video output rear panel.
Dual antenna inputs, select 1, 1 or both antennas
Built in switchable attenuator.

Price is $350 plus shipping. Will consider trades on:

PRO2006, PRO2035, PRO2042, AOR2700, AOR8000, BC760.

tnx

Nick Marsh
WB4SQI
Ashland, KY
Scanner Enthusiast and Delinquent Amateur


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From: Harry Stuver <[e-mail]>
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Date: Tue, 10 Sep 1996 12:24:03 -0700
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S.C.M.A.(Southern California Monitor Association)formerly RCMA West
Los Angeles chapter is having thier meetings on the 2nd Wednesday
of each month at :
           7:00 p.m. at Acapulco Mexican Restaurant
                        3360 Ocean Park Blvd.
                        Santa Monica, Ca.
                        (10 & 405 fwy.)
                  Talk in : 146.925 pl 114.8

All are welcome !
Door prize, Guest speakers, Hot Freqs. , etc...

See ya there.


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 16:54:10 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Larry Levy)
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Subject: Re: LAPD Strike Teams ?
Date: Thu, 05 Sep 1996 03:06:10 GMT
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[e-mail] (HH357) wrote:

>In article <50hqp1$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Larry Levy)
>writes:

>>
>>What you were most likely hearing was a training drill for civil
>>disturbance responses that was held in the parking lot at Dodger
>>Stadium.

>Thats possible, except that a Dodger game was in progress.  And by the
>tone of the officer in charge you wouldn't have thought it was a drill.
>It also was out in the street, not in the parking lot.

>MAybe they were testing the officer in charge!


>That still doesn't tell me what a Strike Teams is though.
>         cheers

Are we talking about Sun, 8/25 or last weekend?

I was at the 8/25 game and there was no problem that I could see, but
I admit, that doesn't mean much..

In any case, if it was a drill at "Camp Snoopy" behind Dodger Stadium,
as one poster pointed out, then no one at the Stadium might have
noticed.

-Larry



From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 16:54:11 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Endel)
Subject: Re: LAPD Strike Teams ?
Organization: Primenet Services for the Internet

There's a big dirt lot behind a hill between the LA Police Academy and
Dodger Stadium, just a little to the east off Academy Road.  There's a
training setup there called Camp Snoopy.  It was heavily used after
the King Riots, and may still be used today.  You can't see it from
the road.  It has trailers for personnel and a K9 training course.

They trained with a lot of 37mm foam rubber rounds as well as tactical
stuff.  I believe they put the entire force through it because of the
less than stellar showing during the riots.  It must still be in use.

That's probably what you heard.

[e-mail] (HH357) wrote:

>Some kind of disturbance occured last Sunday, outside of Dodger stadium at
>about 2 in the afternoon as I recall.   Some supervisor (W unit?) came on
>the air and wanted dozens of units, with helmets, batons and shotguns to
>amass at an intersection outside the park.  It was all very exciting to
>listen to for about a half hour, just him Frantically requesting help for
>"only 40 minutes or so.."
>
>The only conclusion I could come to was a potential gang fight or some
>type of political disturbance, and that the shotguns were to show they
>meant business.
>Nothing else happened, and as usual, it wasn't on the news.
>
>My question regards his request.   He asked for a Mobile Field Force to be
>setup, which I have heard before, but he also asked that the units arrive
>in "Strike Team Formation".
>
>What is a Strike Team at the LAPD and what is a S.T. Formation.
>
>                                      cheers


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From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 16:54:12 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Michael Alexander)
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Subject: Re: lawyers should study
Date: Fri, 06 Sep 1996 06:36:07 -0400
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In article <NOMSGID_1=3A109=[e-mail]>,
[e-mail] (Roger Cravens) wrote:

>
> It is equally as obvious USSN doesn't have an appreciation for the First
> Amendment of our Constitution.  The legal action they are trying to
> initiate will certainly kill this hobby, as well as the makers of this
> equipment.
>
>
> Make up your own mind, but if you disagree, what would YOU recommend
> doing if a firm owed YOU thousands of $$$$$$$$$?
>
I would do as you are doing. However, your assertion that the magazine's
legal action will kill the hobby is a gross exaggeration. USSN is hardly
considered to be a top publication in the hobby. If the magazine dies, the
hobby will continue with nary a burp.

--
Michael Alexander
[e-mail]


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 16:54:14 1996
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Subject: Re: lawyers should study

===========================================================================
Date: 08-31-96 (03:10)
From: [e-mail] (Roy Schahrer)
  To: D Stark
Subj: Re: lawyers should study
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
N-@>From: [e-mail] (Roy Schahrer)

N-@>[e-mail] (D Stark) wrote:

N-@>>>GRANT & LENNEBERG
 -@>>>Attorneys at Law

N-@>>> Re:    Our Client:
 -@>>> U.S. Scanner Publications
 -@>>>  Matter:
 -@>>> Defamatory statements posted on Internet by Larry Van Horn
 -@>>>and republished by Scan-L

N-@>>>Larry Van Horn on the Grove Net Internet as "ST Editor" for
N-@>>>Satellite Times.

N-@>Well so much for me even thinking about subscribing to USSN again.

N-@>Roy...
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
I would again ask in the strongest terms that all those who either
purchase(d) U.S. Scanner News (or RCMA) or have a subscription please
cancel their subscription or don't purchase further magazines until US
Scanner News decides to pay it's writers what they are due.  In some
cases, they are 7+ months behind from my understanding.

It would seem obvious to me (one of USSN's writers currently _NOT_
writing for them until ALL of their writing staff are paid) if USSN has
the financial resources to pay high-end and expensive attorneys that
they would and should have paid their writing staff FIRST!

It is equally as obvious USSN doesn't have an appreciation for the First
Amendment of our Constitution.  The legal action they are trying to
initiate will certainly kill this hobby, as well as the makers of this
equipment.

As a writer of USSN it is my considered opinion that it would much for
the hobby if USSN went down the financial tubes instead of taking
everyone in the industry (including us) with them.

Make up your own mind, but if you disagree, what would YOU recommend
doing if a firm owed YOU thousands of $$$$$$$$$?


Roger Cravens
USSN Writer (On Strike)
***
 o QMPro 1.52 o In God we trust, all others we monitor!


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 16:54:15 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Bob Whiston)
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Subject: Re: LCD display
Date: Sat, 07 Sep 1996 12:34:09 GMT
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Lester Wahl wrote:
>
>   I have a Uniden scanner with an LCD display.  If the unit is
> mounted under the dashboard, the display can be read easily.
> But if the scanner is mounted overhead (as in my van), the
> display is impossible to read.  The LCD digits seem to fade out
> when the radio is above the observer.  (I'm making an assumption
> that the manufacturer intended under-the-dash mounting.)
>   Is there an easy fix for this?

        Well...  {BSE GRIN!}  Why not just mount it upsidedown?  My B.I.L.  (Brother
In
Law) did this with a BC760xlt in his van and aside from having to do a little
`mental reconfiguring' when reading the readout it worked pretty danged well.
(I once facitiously suggested that he could also face it forward and view it i
n
a mirror.  {CHORTLE!}  He didn't think it was a good idea adding yet another
`variable' to the equation. {SNICKER!})


     Doleo ergo sum,
       Bob Whiston
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From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 16:54:16 1996
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From: James Robinton <robinton>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Legal and ethical restrictions on freq postings
Date: 6 Sep 1996 17:48:23 GMT
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Group,

     First ... This is the type of discussion that I think we need here...
Thought filled and considerate.

     Second... I would like to state my disagreement with any/all
restrictionson reception.  Wires are closed systems and the wire
belongs to someone.  There is only (1) spectrum of airwaves...and
and it penetrates my home, office, elsewhere.   I completely agree
with the government allocating this shared resource for the purpose
of coordinating its usage.  I somewhat disagree with the auctioning
unless there is a specific time period (ie leasing it for commercial
use).  I think the responsibility to prevent interception should be
placed on the user (scramble, hop freq, whatever)...it should not
be placed on manufactures and listeners.

     I personally feel that this is an example of special interests
influencing the congress (or other agencies).  I would like to
express my concern for ethics right back to the source where the
restrictions began.

      If the fact that some(one/agency) is using a frequency for
their traffic, then it is an INTERNAL ethical concern if their
personnel disclose it, and should not be if someone discovers and/or
repeats the knowledge...ie they are not under any PRIOR agreement not
to disclose it...I think a similar argument could apply to someone
saying "I saw 4 squad cars at the high school" vs "I heard someone
talk about police on 155.xxx.

      Third .... in formulating your responses...Please try to consider
both sides...and I will do the same....lets discuss it not to change each
others mind but to add value to the discussion so we will all have as
much input as possible to formulate our final opinions...

Respectfully submited   /Jim /N1CRZ



From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 16:54:17 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Steve Work)
Subject: Re: Legal and ethical restrictions on freq postings
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Rich Carlson ([e-mail]) wrote:
: It is perfectly legal to post frequencies that are illegal to listen to,
: such as cellular (BTW, cellular freqs range from about 869 thru 894 MHz,
: with the inputs 45 MHz below).  Knowledge of how to committ an illegal act
: such as listening to cellular radio is not illegal.  I also know how to
: shoot someone, steal his car, or burn his house down,  but I can not be
: arrested for that knowledge.

Also remember that in many places outside the US, listening to cellular
is perfectly legal.


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 16:54:17 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Dean Walker)
Date: Thu, 05 Sep 1996 17:33:13 GMT
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In article <[e-mail]>, Steve Work ([e-mail]) write
s:
>Rich Carlson ([e-mail]) wrote:
>: It is perfectly legal to post frequencies that are illegal to listen to,
>: such as cellular (BTW, cellular freqs range from about 869 thru 894 MHz,
>: with the inputs 45 MHz below).  Knowledge of how to committ an illegal act
>: such as listening to cellular radio is not illegal.  I also know how to
>: shoot someone, steal his car, or burn his house down,  but I can not be
>: arrested for that knowledge.
>
>Also remember that in many places outside the US, listening to cellular
>is perfectly legal.
>

What ever frequencies invade my body space I shall be able to
listen to them!

Dean Walker
Small Talk Communications


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From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 16:54:19 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Dr Pepper)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Legal and ethical restrictions on freq postings
Date: Thu, 05 Sep 1996 21:17:44 GMT
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[e-mail] (Rich Carlson) wrote:

>It is perfectly legal to post frequencies that are illegal to listen to,
>such as cellular (BTW, cellular freqs range from about 869 thru 894 MHz,
>with the inputs 45 MHz below).  Knowledge of how to committ an illegal act
>such as listening to cellular radio is not illegal.  I also know how to
>shoot someone, steal his car, or burn his house down,  but I can not be
>arrested for that knowledge.

>While I am distressed that we have lost the right to monitor in our own
>homes radio signals that are beamed in uninvited, I enjoy knowing that
>ECPA violations are rarely (if at all) prosecuted, and probably wouldn't
>get very far.

>AS far as ethics, that is up to you.  Would I post surveilance freqs, or
>others that may be sensitive?  In my books, I don't publish unlicensed
>freqs that an agency has asked to remain secret.  With the easily
>programmable radios that are out there now, these are so changable, that
>by the time the books get to the publisher, they can change the freqs a
>dozen times.  The decision should be on a case by case basis.


>In article <01bb9632$e19cc720$[e-mail]>, "Cliff and
>Diana Morrison" <[e-mail]> wrote:

>** Are there any legal or ethical restrictions on posting frequencies on the
>** Web?  I've been thinking of putting up a page about my area with my
>** favorites and my guess at what they are.

Rich, , ,  this is an excellent answer. I agree with you 100%.  My
only departure from the above is what you call "sensitive
frequencies".  While it may be true that they change very often, I see
no harm in listing them. They ARE, after all paid for by you and I.
HOW a person uses them is a question of ethics, not whether they are
listed soemwhere or not.  A wise old friend once said, , , , ,
"If the police don't want you to listen to them, MOVE!!"

Dr Pepper
10 - 2 - 4




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Tracy Justus wrote:
>
> Let's get this newsgroup rockin' .. I'd like to see some constructive
> posts by both Cheeks and Mackey. In fact I DARE both Cheeks and Mackey
> to a contest!
>
> Which one of you can contribute the MOST to the newsgroup?
>
> --
> ________________________________
> [e-mail]
> http://www.westworld.com/~justusNothing more needs to be said!!!!



From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 16:54:20 1996
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From: Bill Funk <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Let's Rock??
Date: Fri, 06 Sep 1996 09:36:02 -0700
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Tracy Justus wrote:
>
> Let's get this newsgroup rockin' .. I'd like to see some constructive
> posts by both Cheeks and Mackey. In fact I DARE both Cheeks and Mackey
> to a contest!
>
> Which one of you can contribute the MOST to the newsgroup?
> =====

Looks like Bill Cheek wins again. He just posted another FAQ post,
and John Mackey weighs in with nothing.
This was *before* Bill had a chance to read your post, BTW.


--
        Bill Funk - [e-mail]
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                User groups: More info than you can shake a CD at!
                             Try one near you!


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 16:54:21 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Michael Cunningham)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Lightning Arrester
Date: 9 Sep 1996 19:05:02 -0600
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I am looking for a particular type of lightning arrester. I don't know
if it is still being made. It has a PL-259 plug on one end and an
SO-239 socket on the other. In the middle is a screw to attach a ground
wire. Is this type available? Where? How much?

This will be used on the coax from a scanner antenna. No transmitting
will be done. If I can find this type I wouldn't have to cut my coax
to insert a lightning arrester.

TIA..Mike

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 ■ NFX v1.3 [000]



From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 16:54:22 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Mark L9)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Looking for a mailorder outfit to purchase a handheld scanner
Date: 5 Sep 1996 03:52:35 -0400
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Also:  Scanner World and Electronic Equipment Bank.  Both have web sites.


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 16:54:23 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Gene McAvoy)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Looking for a Scanner freq. data base on WWWW
Date: Sat, 07 Sep 1996 19:00:16 GMT
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"P.Mohazzabi" <[e-mail]> wrote:

>I am looking for a Scanner freq. database www , other than perconcorp www
>any help?

The very best is ScanWare Associates Free FCC Database Page at:
http://www.oz.net/~gmcavoy/index.html



From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 16:54:24 1996
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From: Tracy Justus <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner,alt.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Looking for Cordless Freq's
Date: Tue, 10 Sep 1996 04:45:21 -0700
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What cordless phone use 30.075-30.300?!?  I think you might be mistaken
there.  Try 43.720-44.480 and 46.610-46.970 (Baby monitors are in the
later freq range).  Also, most fast food drive throughs are in the
top side of the 30MHz range.

Barry O'Grady wrote:
>
> Cordless phone frequencys are 30.075 to 30.300Mhz in 25Khz steps.
>
> Also baby monitors on 37.6, 36.7, 30.4 and 30.6 Mhz.
>
> Fast food drive thoughs use 40.41 and 40.49 Mhz.
>

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From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 16:54:25 1996
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I'm looking for all the low band cordless phone frequencies as well as
the 900mhz frequencies.  Thank you in advance!


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 16:54:26 1996
From: [e-mail] (Dan Arganbright)
Subject: RE: Lose Weight Now
Date: 6 Sep 96 05:01:58 -0700
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I always wanted a thinner scanner!


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 16:54:27 1996
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From: Roland.Stiner%1:2619/211.9 (Roland Stiner%1:2619/211.9)
Date: 02 Sep 96 08:07:00
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Lose Weight Now
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To: Roland Stiner%1:2619/211.9%12:320/100.666
From: [e-mail] (Roland Stiner)
Organization: MAG Systems, Inc/TFP BBS
Subject: Lose Weight Now


J>==============================================================
 >        FINALLY!  A SCIENTIFIC APPROACH TO EFFECTIVE
 >           WEIGHT MANAGEMENT & METABOLIC FITNESS
 >                 NOW AVAILABLE IN AMERICA!

J>                   P H Y T O ~ S H A P E
 >        Because Nothing Tastes As Good As THIN Feels!
 >==============================================================

J>Your body has three primary sources of energy -- carbohydrates,
 >fats and proteins.  By taking these three energy sources, your
 >body literally "burns" them and creates the energy needed for
 >everyday life. Athletes know this, and often "fuel up" before a
 >competitive meet.

J>The problem is that not all of the food we eat is needed by the
 >body. When we consume an excess of energy (food), beyond what our
 >bodies need, the remainder is stored as fat.

Jeez, I wish he's said that we could loose weight from listing to the
scanner!  If that's not the case, then why post it here???

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From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 16:54:28 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Michael Alexander)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Mackey as Moderator? Doesnt give his email address to people..
Date: Fri, 06 Sep 1996 06:41:11 -0400
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In article <[e-mail]>,
[e-mail] (Mark) wrote:

> [stuff deleted]

Your starting this flame-thread complaining about Mackey's lack of
meaningful contribution is pretty ironic. Now we have two people who seem
incapable providing meaningful input: you and Mackey.

--
Michael Alexander
[e-mail]


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 16:54:29 1996
From: [e-mail]
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Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Mackey moments
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
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Users,
            I think it is time you folks lay off my buddy John_Mackey. He
is a cool guy and contributes to this newsgroup all the time. Just
yesterday he gave us these words of wisdom. After reading them I dare any of y
ou to fin fault in what he says. The following are all
of John's contribution for September 7, 1996. Read them an weep you
losers.

John says;

+++++++++++start quotes+++++++++++++++++++++++

I have found it interesting that all the Bill Cheek defenders & supporters
are newbies & ass-kissers.

hahaahahahahah, tell us another one Bill, heheheheheeh

You LOVE that type of shit.

That's true.  The things that Bill did to Fidonet ScanRadio is a good example.

hahahahaah  right.

That's right, YOU HAVE NO POWER!!!  But I might suggest you follow your whn ad
vice
& keep you mouth shut to prevent putting your foot in it again.


+++++++++++++++++++ end of quotes+++++++++++++++


Now if these aren't examples of John_Mackey's intelligence I
do not know what more I can do. He is GOD to me.


                                               PJB
                                               *certified skin flute palyer*
                                               *master debator*





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From: [e-mail] (PjB)
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Subject: Re: Mackey moments
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In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] wrote:

> Users,
>             I think it is time you folks lay off my buddy John_Mackey. He


This is perhaps the lamest attempt at a forgery I have ever seen.
Ha ha ha ha ha!!!  (BTW, its 'teleport'  not 'telport")  Ha ha ha ha!!!!


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 16:54:31 1996
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From: Roland.Stiner%1:2619/211.9 (Roland Stiner%1:2619/211.9)
Date: 02 Sep 96 08:07:00
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: MAGALLAN 3000 GPS UNIT
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To: Roland Stiner%1:2619/211.9%12:320/100.666
From: [e-mail] (Roland Stiner)
Organization: MAG Systems, Inc/TFP BBS
Subject: MAGALLAN 3000 GPS UNIT


M>There is a system called Tracker that has GPS and a control head that
 >you can operate to send messages to the dispatcher.

M>You can scroll to say "Traffic Stop" and press the send button this
 >would send a message to the dispatcher that you are doing a traffic
 >stop and would both show your location on the map and print out your
 >location on the screen.

M>Tracker is also made to dispatch calls too.

M>I work for a towing and recovery company and we have used Tracker for
 >the last few years and found it excelent.

Would you happen to know if the Magellan 3000 is usable in a small
airplane?  I have a friend in France who flies and is interested in one.
Would you have any information on that model?

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From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 16:54:32 1996
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From: Phil Johnston <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Military Aircraft Freqs in Kansas
Date: Fri, 06 Sep 1996 08:18:11 -0700
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Hurst Laviana (Eagle) wrote:

> Has anybody got military aircraft frequencies for the Wichita, Kansas, area?
>
> We are trying to hear McConnell AFB, the Kansas Air National Guard and
> the B1-Bs flying overhead.

Try the following:

301.6 MHz       McConnell AFB Operations
303.0 MHz       McConnell AFB Tactical
375.2 MHz       McConnell AFB Meteorological Staff

My list is dated as I've not done much milair monitoring in a year or so.  I h
ope this
helps.

I've heard all of these frequencies regularly in the past from my location.

Phil Johnston
Springfield, Missouri

PS -- If you've not listened to milair before, you are in for a pleasant surpr
ise.  I
regularly heard activity on more than 200 UHF (225-400 MHz) channels.  The air
 refueling
channels were the most active ... most active were 327.6, 235.1, 305.5, and 26
0.2 MHz.


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Subject: Re: MilSatCom Iraq...any action??
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George:
     The Disconne Antenna is excellent to have if you receive anything.

Allen



From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 16:54:33 1996
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From: [e-mail] (wfm)
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6 to 7 PM EDT 09/09/96 heard Rogue 2 calling Rogue 16 in the
clear on 262.250.  During the hour there were many test counts
and radio checks.  Finally about 7, Rogue 16 said he found
problem with his antenna cable.  Nothing heard after that.
Anyone got any ideas??
thanks
bill

Allen Hunt ([e-mail]) wrote:
: George:
:      The Disconne Antenna is excellent to have if you receive anything.

: Allen



From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 16:54:34 1996
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Do you live anywhere near Annapolis (sp)?  Sounds like a SEAL
team doing training of some type.

wfm wrote:
> 6 to 7 PM EDT 09/09/96 heard Rogue 2 calling Rogue 16 in the
> clear on 262.250.  During the hour there were many test counts
> and radio checks.  Finally about 7, Rogue 16 said he found
> problem with his antenna cable.  Nothing heard after that.
> Anyone got any ideas??
> thanks

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From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 16:54:35 1996
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From: [e-mail] (wfm)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner,alt.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: MilSatCom Iraq...any action??
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NE PA and 262.250 is satcom, so guess it could be SEAL,
but location could be anywhere!?
bill

Tracy Justus ([e-mail]) wrote:
: Do you live anywhere near Annapolis (sp)?  Sounds like a SEAL
: team doing training of some type.

: wfm wrote:
: > 6 to 7 PM EDT 09/09/96 heard Rogue 2 calling Rogue 16 in the
: > clear on 262.250.  During the hour there were many test counts
: > and radio checks.  Finally about 7, Rogue 16 said he found
: > problem with his antenna cable.  Nothing heard after that.
: > Anyone got any ideas??
: > thanks

: --
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From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 16:54:36 1996
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From: [e-mail] (HH357)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Mobile Scanners - Illegal in USA?
Date: 5 Sep 1996 03:08:01 -0400
Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364)
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In article <[e-mail]>, Sparky J. Morehouse
<[e-mail]> writes:

>
>Also, a hand held scanner can be quickly stashed under the seat if you do
get
>pulled over.

Stashing anything under the seat will likely get you in trouble.  Maybe
even shot in some locales.  Atleast make it a semi-perm installation.
   cheers


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 16:54:37 1996
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From: [e-mail] (James Glass)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Moderate a SCANNER ng?!?!
Date: 6 Sep 1996 03:44:31 GMT
Organization: Qestek Engineering, Inc.
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Isn't that great!  Scanner enthusiasts wanting a moderator...

What's next? How about asking for registration of all scanners with a
three-day wait for a background check?

Jim

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Jim


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 16:54:38 1996
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From: Tracy Justus <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: Moderator
Date: Thu, 05 Sep 1996 05:25:03 -0700
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Correct me if I'm wrong (I tend to pass up the flame messages because
they are a waste of time), but isn't the subject of moderating this
newgroups the result of an imature flame war between Mackey and Cheeks?
If so, then making either of them the moderater of this newsgroup is
just defeating the purpose of having a moderater.

If either of them had the stuff it takes to be a moderater we wouldn't
be looking for a moderater in the first place.

I suspect that most of the people reading this newgroups are only
looking to trade information on radio scanning.

Paul Jackson wrote:
> I have to agree, we should not have to have a moderator but this
> flaming of Bill has gotten way out of hand.  Bill has the knowledge
> that would be required to moderate this group.  He has shown great
> control in all of the flames and that is another -plus- for him.
>
> Again, I would had to see this moderated but if it has to be then Bill
> is the one that can do it!
>
> Hang in there Bill!

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From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 16:54:39 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Bill Cheek)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Moderator
Date: Fri, 06 Sep 1996 08:07:20 GMT
Organization: COMMtronics Engineering/World Scanner Report
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"John C. Noble" <[e-mail]> wrote:

>Strikes me that,
>..because someone has excellent technical knowledge, that does NOT
>necessarily mean they would be a good Moderator.

True.  But it it doesn't necessarily mean  they wouldn't be a good
moderator, either.  A lot depends on if they've been to Moderator
School.

> An analogy would be the
>good salesman is made manager, but then fails.  It's a different skill set.

Well, sure, but on the other hand, just TRY to find a sales manager
who has never been a salesman........   :-)

>Selfishly, I'd rather have those with great technical knowledge spending
>time being productive in that arena, not reading every (damn) post for
>"suitability".  My recommendation would be someone ( or a group) who has a
>reasonable amount of scanner knowledge, enthusiasm about the topic, the
>time to Moderate, and the ability in a amicable way to keep things on
>topic.  This is not to say controversy is off topic, but I think it is
>agreed flaming is.

Who cares?  If flaming is off topic for you, then don't flame.  That's
easy enough.  If others' flames bother you, then don't read them.
That's easy, too.  It is a WHOLE LOT EASIER for you to not flame and
to not read flames than to control hundreds of others and get yourself
all worked up into a big ol' snit when you fail.

If you insist on a moderator, then you will eventually get a censor.
Remember, there really is no such thing as a moderated Usenet
newsgroup.  It's a censored newsgroup.  Let's don't mince words here.
There are moderators in other nets, but here, the control is over
message content, not the posters.

You are doomed to failure unless and until you learn to do this
moderating or censoring from your own computer......for you.  It won't
ever get any better than that.  But it can get a lot worse.

Bill Cheek
Scannist Extraordinaire
(IMHO)




From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 16:54:41 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Bill Cheek)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Moderator and other stuff
Date: Fri, 06 Sep 1996 04:34:17 GMT
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[e-mail] (Michael Alexander) wrote:

>> Look at the tone of your message, pal.  So how would you act
>> or react on a moderated group when someone disagreed with
>> you?  Your colors are shown already before the thing gets
>> off the ground, and you WONDER why I am resistant to it?

>Bill, you were resistant to the idea when you thought that *this* group
>would become moderated.

Yes?  Is that wrong?  Am I not free to dissent?  When it looked like
THIS forum was the target of an ambush, you betcha I was resistant to
it.  I am resistant to all forms of tyranny over the minds of men.

>You then accused Tim of all sorts of underhanded
>shennigans even though you were unclear about what he was proposing.

Isn't it incumbent on the poster to be clear?  He wasn't.  Nor was he
open to discussion of the matter.  Looked underhanded to me.

>Moderation of a newsgroup is a good thing if it eliminates having to shift
>throughs post that have nothing to do with scanning. If that was your
>purpose, it was a worthwhile thing to attempt.

One has many options and alternatives to do just what you said - from
the keyboard of his own computer, without reaching out and diddling
into someone else's affairs.  Moderation is not necessary.  You can
moderate from your own keyboard.....decisively, mercilessly.

>I disagree with the assertion that Tim has been anything but above board.
>The guy made a worthwhile effort to set up a new newsgroup by following
>all of the basic guidelines, and further asked for public discourse on the
>matter. I don't see how that makes him a phony! Your characterization is
>counter to the facts.

Where did he ask for public discourse?  He was closed-mouthed, and
asked for E-MAIL, fer Pete's Sake!  He did NOT ask for public
discourse whatsoever.  Show me where he did.

>If the consequence of people "participating in their preferred styles" is
>that others  (like Tim) feel compelled to leave the newsgroup, then before
>long all we'll have here is "style" and no substance.

Not if you mind your own business and leave others to mind theirs.

Not if you control your own computer and leave others to control
theirs.

Not if you moderate the I/O of your domain to suit your tastes and
pleasures and leave it to others to moderate theirs.

>> Look, man, you want THE truth?  Yours and Hobart's recent
>> actions and mannerisms are far more negative, damaging, and
>> destructive than those of Mackey and Company.  THEM, we can
>> laugh AT and WITH.  You and Hobart?  You dudes are as
>> serious as a heart attack.

>I think that the constant bashing of individuals for who they are rather
>than what they say is far more destructive and damaging.

How and why?  It's only because YOU choose to feel destruction and
damage.  How the hell can you speak for what others feel?  How can you
speak for what others do and mean?  How do you know that Jonna Mackey
isn't my wife and we're just playing?  You can't draw any semblance of
a definitive conclusion on this bashing thing.  You don't know
anything other than what you see........and what you see is VIRTUAL.
Not real.  You are only pretending that it is real.  You are fondling
catturds in a sandbox and then whining because they touched you.

Geezus H. Kriste, Michael, you're making a mountain out of a molehill
and blowing smoke into perceived fires and creating delusions from
illusions.

Please......geezus, man,.....control your own computer.  It's almost
as if you're pissed off at the sounds of people breathing because it
freaks out your horse.

Control your horse!  Or get another one.  Plug the nag's ears!  Kick
'is arse!  You can't make others responsible for your welfare and
"safety" out here in virtuality.  You and you alone are responsible.
You want to be a victim, fine, be a victim, but don't snivel about it.
You want to be immune?  Be immune.  Just like that. (Snapping fingers)

Think about what I am trying to tell you, fer Pete's Sake!  It isn't
"my" way, but it IS the ONLY way the anarchist usenet can work.  There
is no other way.  Take THAT to the bank.

Bill Cheek
Scannist Extraordinaire



From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 16:54:42 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Dr Pepper)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Moderator and other stuff
Date: Thu, 05 Sep 1996 21:17:47 GMT
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Jim Wayda <[e-mail]> wrote:

>Jack McGee wrote:
>>
>>  SNIP ----- SNIP------
>> I hope the moderated group(s?) get off the ground.

>I also an for moderation of this group. It is the only way
>to stop the spam and childish flame wars.

>Jim Wayda
>Captain, Scanner Price Police
I'm sure you would be, judgeing from your sig.file.
Dr Pepper
10 - 2 - 4




From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 16:54:43 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Paul Cordingley)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Moderator and other stuff
Date: 6 Sep 1996 01:53:06 GMT
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[e-mail] (Bill Cheek) wrote:

>That may be so.....but virtuality is not a place nor is it
>public.  It is a concept totally devoid of anything tangible
>and physical.  Your statement has no parallel in virtuality
>though you are trying to draw one.

Well Bill that seems to be where we differ....virtuality is different,
but it's still interaction betweeen real people. (None of us are
machines or from another dimension, AFAIK). So the rules of human
nature still apply...and, I would argue, the rules of human conduct.

Sure, virtuality is different - we can be anyone we want to, you the
reader can't tell if I the writer am a fifty-pound teenager or a
three-hundred pound gorilla, or both, but we are still communicating
as real people. At least, we are communicating as the people we have
each chosen to be for the moment.

We can always press delete - after the fact - but by then the idea
that was expressed has done its harm. That's why hate laws exist, and
that's why, even if there can be no laws here, there ought to be
limits.

>>I wish we could create a community standard in this newsgroup. Closing
>>one's eyes doesn't uphold the community standards, it mocks them.

>Why do you say that?  There is no relationship of reality to
>virtuality.  You are trying to infuse your perception of a
>virtual "thing" into a semblance of rule and law.  This is
>extremely dangerous for society, civilization, and
>especially our way of Life.

Well, 'rule of law' wasn't really what I had in mind. Let's say, I
wish that we could agree that when we come here we come as real
people, who want to communicate with other people, as ourselves, and
so we try to be the best that we can be, rather than the worst.

If someone refuses to be at least some minimum level of decent person?
Well I think the rest of us (ie the community) ought to have some
lever we can pull in the name of our common wellbeing. Maybe a
moderator is not the lever of choice, but then what?

You have your own personal lever....you flame back, as low as you can.
Personally there is a level I don't go beneath, even on my favourite
barstool, even after a snoutful. If we all applied our personal
levers? This group would lose all cohesiveness. If some of us restrain
ourselves, but others do not? That's back to tyrrany....the guy who
uses the strongest language wins. So if we have to press delete, you
have to also.

>Why isn't that good enough?  Why do you feel compelled to be
>a meddling, goody-two-shoes, tearfully begging for a force
>to control others?  Don't you understand that once this
>force is in place, it can never be excised and that it will
>work against you, sooner or later?

>Why not just stuff a sock in it and control your own domain?
>You already possess a cast-iron, force-field condom.
>Nothing from virtuality can enter your reality unless you
>permit it.

Thanks for the kind suggestion...but no, this runs against your
premise that no one ought to be intimidated here. So despite your
aggressive tone I will continue to express my views just as freely and
vehemently as you do. Fair's fair, right? But this is tiresome. If we
all showed some restraint, even you, not because we are under duress,
but just because we want the group to work, we could get along just
fine.

Interested?

Paul

PS:Where do you find the time to fire back at all these people,
anyways?



From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 16:54:44 1996
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From: "chris.callahan".%1:2619/211.9 ("chris callahan" %1:2619/211.9)
Date: 03 Sep 96 23:43:47
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Subject: mods for pro 2030
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To: "chris callahan" %1:2619/211.9%12:320/100.666
From: "chris callahan" <[e-mail]>
Subject: mods for pro 2030
Organization: A News Reader at ATMNet

Does anybody have the 66-88 Mhz restoration for the pro-2030 model.
Thanks in advance!!!

Chris Callahan <[e-mail]>

 # Origin: Usenet:A News Reader at ATMNet (1:2619/211.9)

 # Origin: Gateway ARNet <-> HamNet by HB9EBW (12:320/100.666)
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From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 16:54:45 1996
Date: Tue, 10 Sep 1996 16:19:07 -0400
From: "Uncle L" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Mods for Pro 2040 [6 A 6]
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Xref: news2.epix.net alt.radio.scanner:33085 rec.radio.scanner:56216

I have a Radio Shack PRO-2040 [6 A 6] and I would like to know if there are ce
llular
modifications out that have been tried and found to be legit.  Thanks in advan
ce fuys.
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From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 16:54:46 1996
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From: David <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: mods for Pro 51
Date: Sat, 07 Sep 1996 06:55:39 -0700
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can the pro 51 be modified to receive cell phones ?The unit was made in
December of 93.Thanks in advance.

                               David


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 16:54:47 1996
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What modifcations can be made to the rs pro-51? Thanks in advance
                                  David


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 16:54:48 1996
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From: [e-mail]
Subject: MORNING TRAFFIC
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Traffic reports for Orlando, FL are on the following:


450.4125
450.45
450.75

All four frequencies are very active during rush hours.

455.2125 WCPX-TV - Sky6 and Skywatch helicopter
455.4875 WFTV-TV - Skywitness helicopter

123.025 Unicom - Tour helicopters - Fly over Disney, Sea World etc.

Hope this helps,
John




From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 16:54:49 1996
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From: Bob Waller <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Motorola 800Mhz Radio
Date: Tue, 10 Sep 1996 10:02:14 -0700
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Jim Conley wrote:
>
> A friend of mine uses a Motorola 800Mhz radio for his business, and
> also uses a scanner to follow the fire dispatch.  The Sacramento area
> just switched to a 800Mhz trunked system.  He has heard that he can
> have his radio programed to listen to the dispatch.
>
> How hard is it to do?
>
> Thanks
> JimHe would have to find a shop that has the "syskey"(system key) for that
Trunking System. Odds of that happening are not good since that would
give you the ability to TX on the system, depending on how the backbone
is configured.


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 16:54:50 1996
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From: Tom Montgomery <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Need BC3000 Info
Date: Thu, 05 Sep 1996 23:21:00 -0700
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I just ordered a BC3000 and would like to know how many channels you can
lock out on a search.

Does this lockout data channels as well as birdies ?

Thanks for any info.

Monty


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 16:54:50 1996
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From: DEA_hunter <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Need Scan*Star software
Date: Mon, 09 Sep 1996 21:48:20 -0400
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Could someone please upload a full blown version of this software if
they have it??? I would really appreciate it... I just bought a OS456
for my scanner and I would like to have a nice program to run it...


        Many Thanx for reading this article...

my email is [e-mail]


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 16:54:51 1996
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From: [e-mail]
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Network TV on a cellular freq.?
Date: 6 SEP 96 16:52:58 GMT
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Yesterday I saw an ABC newsvan (ch. 7, NYC) in my town with the microwave towe
r
extended. I figured they were getting ready to do a live remote for the 5 PM
news and was interested in what the story was about. I checked some of the
regular network freqs. and my local PD, but nothing. I then stumbled upon the
transmission of the entire live news show (commercials included) over what wou
ldbe a cellular frequency. Is this how they establish the link with the studio
?
Is it like one big phone call? During the actuall broadcast of the story I did
hear promptings over this freq. Things like "standby", and "30 seconds". Soon
after the segment was over, the cellular "link" was gone.
What's going on here?
Thanks,
Phil


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 16:54:52 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Mike Ellenberg)
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Subject: Re: Network TV on a cellular freq.?
Date: 7 Sep 1996 05:13:33 GMT
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[e-mail] wrote:

: Is it like one big phone call? During the actuall broadcast of the story I d
id
: hear promptings over this freq. Things like "standby", and "30 seconds". Soo
n
: after the segment was over, the cellular "link" was gone.
: What's going on here?

Phil what you heard was the IFB (Interruptable Fold Back) from the station.
ENG and SNG trucks normally dial up these numbers back at the station and
feed it into earpieces for the talent to hear the mix-minus program and
cues from the directors and producers back at the station.
The talent normally just talks back to the station via the audio on the
satellite or microwave shot, which BTW- are normally only one way links.

After the live shot is done they hang up the the cell line and power down
the microwave or Ku-band satellite feed then pack up and head back to the
station.

Mike

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From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 16:54:53 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Joseph Cardani )
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Subject: Re: New Jersey Laws
Date: Tue, 10 Sep 1996 12:26:46 GMT
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[e-mail] (James) wrote:

>Don Hayes <[e-mail]> wrote:

>I have a copy of the law in my glove box for NJ.  Basically what it
>says is a) it is a forth degree crime to use a scanner to commit a

>               crime
>            b) it is a forth degree crime if you are in posesion of a

>                scanner while commiting a crime
>            c) radar detectors are not considered a scanner for this
>                purpose of the law

I have a copy of the NJ scanner law on my South Jersey Scanner Page:

http://www.voicenet.com/~jcardani/sjscan.htm

Check near the bottom of the first page under the topic "Scanner Laws"


Joe Cardani



From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 16:54:54 1996
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From: [e-mail](Donald Andrew Cummins)
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Subject: Re: New Radio Shack Catalog
Date: 5 Sep 1996 02:02:48 GMT
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In <50l6bc$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (VoltageS)
writes:
>
>I made a $6.00 purchase at my local Radio Shack this a.m. and got the
'97
>cat. for  no charge.

I got the catalog for free when i gave the clerk the 3 dollars off
sticker, i didn't pay a cent


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 16:54:55 1996
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From: Dan Prysby <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: New Radio Shack Catalog
Date: 4 Sep 1996 22:40:05 GMT
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[e-mail] (Michael Alexander) wrote:
>In article <[e-mail]>, "Patrick D. Lukens" <[e-mail]>
>wrote:
>
>> Rich Wells wrote:
>> >
>> > Interesting. A while back, RS had a great sale on the PRO-26 so I gave in
>> > and bought one. While the guy was closing my transaction I saw their pile
>> > of catalogs and asked if he could throw one in the bad with my purchase.
>> >
>> > At this point, he looked at me with those vacant cow eyes and said, in hi
s
>> > wonderfully monotone void, "I'll have to add an additional $2.95 for that
".
>> > What a total looser! Here I had just made a +$300 purchase and he wouldn'
t
>> > even throw in a free catalog. Needless to say I haven't back there in qui
te
>> > a while.
>>
>> A loser indeed!  I have never paid for a RS catalog, despite the cover
>> price, and with few exceptions, I have gotten one every year since about
>> '87.
>>
>Most of the time, I've had to play the little game where they charge me $3
>and then give me a $3 discount! This year, I rec'd the catalog without
>having to pay anything. If I have a complaint about the catalog it is that
>there isn't anything new that I have to have so I can spend money that I
>don't have!

Push them on this issue!!!
Tell them you are making a sizable purchase but you won't
do it unless they give you a catalog.
I frequent 2 RS in my area so I've built a reputation as a known
customer.
They are easing on this so past protesting might be working.

Dan Prysby



From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 16:54:56 1996
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From: "L. G. Shirley" <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: New Radio Shack Catalog
Date: 5 Sep 1996 23:16:37 GMT
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I saw all the posts and wondered if Radio Shack had learned any lessons
from previous years in requiring you and me to buy their catalog.

The good news is I received my latest flier today and it had a note above
the mailing address to alert me bring the flier to one of their stores and
they would give me a free catalog.

Same as the old coupon deal they've offered before. Since we do post a lot
of information about Radio Shack catalog items along with their catalog
number, it is certainly to RS's advantage to give the catalogs away, one
to a customer.

I'm sure they've been helped sales wise by post on this newsgroup and
others. Limiting the catalogs to one per customer should save them money.
But I don't think asking money for it is a good idea. Hope your fliers
arrive soon before a RS flame war starts.

Regards,
LGS



From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 16:54:57 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Ll pix)
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Date: 9 Sep 1996 18:23:24 -0400
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I just made a $300 purchase at radio Shack. I put a cat. in the bag in
front of the store manager who did not say anything.


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 16:54:59 1996
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From: Rich Wells <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: New Radio Shack Catalog
Date: Wed, 11 Sep 1996 06:50:16 -0400
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Hearing of other's latest catalog exploits I went in to get the low-down at
the local RS. I went in and BOLDY asked for their new catalog. I was given
two options

   1) That will be $2.95 OR
   2) I'll need to take your name and address

Since I was already in their wonderful database, I opted for #2. He scanned
the catalog bar code, printed out a receipt and I was on my way.

Rich
North Carolina editor
The Scanner Club
http://www.enter.net/~jheller/scanclub.html


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Subject: Re: New Radio Shack Catalog
Date: Fri, 06 Sep 1996 21:08:29 -0700
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I walked in and asked for a catalog . There were two salesman there.
While salesman number one went for a catalog in the back room, the first
salesman said they would have to add my name to the database to give me
the catalog. The salesman with the catalog pointed to the $2.95 price on
the cover and asked me for it. I said that I thought they were free. The
first salesman told the second one to give it to me. The second salesman
entered inventory data (NOT my name or address) in the POS terminal and
gave me the catalog. I thanked them and walked out.

Strange!


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From: Dave <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: New Radio Shack Catalog
Date: Fri, 06 Sep 1996 00:27:19 -0400
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I went in RS yesterday and did not buy anything.  I said I had heard that the
new
catalogs were out.  I asked if they were free and they said "Yep!  Take one."
 I
am a frequent customer and have spent a small fortune there over the last few
years.
However, the guy working was new and didn't even know me.  I guess they're fre
e
here.

Dave


Jeffrey Miller wrote:
>
> kEN Colburn <[e-mail]> wrote in article
> <[e-mail]>...
> > FWIW, i went  into RS for a $2 headfone adapter and spent $44 and had to
> > pay $3 for the catalog. i hate when that happens.
> > --
> I just went in and bought about $30.00 worth of stuff and I didn't get
> charged but my
> name was in their database of customers... Guess this means you have to
> shop there
> relatively often to get a "FREE" catalog...
> .
> Makes you wonder about people who just moved and go in there to shop


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 16:55:04 1996
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Charging for their catalog may have been a good short term decision, but canno
t help in the long run.  I
used to keep the RS catalog almost as a reference manual.  When I needed somet
hing like a part or a cable I
would first look it up in the catalog and then drop by the RS.  Now, since I d
o not know exactly what I am
looking for I am just as likely to drop by a nearby local home center or disco
unt store and see if they
have something that will meet my need.  Often as not, if the item is commonly
used, they do.  RS loses.

L. G. Shirley wrote:
>
> I saw all the posts and wondered if Radio Shack had learned any lessons
> from previous years in requiring you and me to buy their catalog.
>
> The good news is I received my latest flier today and it had a note above
> the mailing address to alert me bring the flier to one of their stores and
> they would give me a free catalog.
>
> Same as the old coupon deal they've offered before. Since we do post a lot
> of information about Radio Shack catalog items along with their catalog
> number, it is certainly to RS's advantage to give the catalogs away, one
> to a customer.
>
> I'm sure they've been helped sales wise by post on this newsgroup and
> others. Limiting the catalogs to one per customer should save them money.
> But I don't think asking money for it is a good idea. Hope your fliers
> arrive soon before a RS flame war starts.
>
> Regards,
> LGS



From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 16:55:05 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Meat Head)
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Subject: NHRA Freq
Date: Mon, 09 Sep 1996 16:44:33 GMT
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Does anyone have a list of the frequencies that the NHRA & IHRA car
and tracks use

Please E-mail them to me at
[e-mail]

Thank you



From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 16:55:06 1996
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From: Karl Dahlquist <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: Non-red Los Angeles fire trucks
Date: Thu, 05 Sep 1996 16:38:50 -0700
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To: Alan Frisbie <[e-mail]>

Alan Frisbie wrote:
>
> Unfortunately, my system only keeps items in rec.radio.scanner
> for three days, so I cannot refer to prior postings.   If I
> get any details wrong, please let me know.
>
> As I recall, Brian Humphries (did I spell that right?) said
> that there was only one non-red truck in the Los Angeles
> Fire Department.
>
> Yesterday, I was down in the L.A. EOC (Emergency Operations Center)
> and noticed a large photograph in the hallway.   It showed
> three yellow LAFD trucks: 3, 80, and 180.   (180 is *BIG*!)
> Is this just an obsolete photo, or is there some story behind
> this?   Did I miss an earlier explaination?
>
> BTW, Brian, I (and I think I speak for many of us here) appreciate
> your participation in this group.   The openness of the LAFD is
> to be commended, and should be a model for other public agencies.
> I think you are doing a great job.
>
> Now if your management can just get their act together regarding
> your dispatching system...   :-)
>
> --  Alan E. Frisbie               [e-mail]
> --  Flying Disk Systems, Inc.
> --  Los Angeles, CA 90065



Would those be AIRPORT units?  (LAX and VNY)



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From: Bob Waller <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: Non-red Los Angeles fire trucks
Date: Tue, 10 Sep 1996 19:03:08 -0700
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Alan Frisbie wrote:
>
> Unfortunately, my system only keeps items in rec.radio.scanner
> for three days, so I cannot refer to prior postings.   If I
> get any details wrong, please let me know.
>
> As I recall, Brian Humphries (did I spell that right?) said
> that there was only one non-red truck in the Los Angeles
> Fire Department.
>
> Yesterday, I was down in the L.A. EOC (Emergency Operations Center)
> and noticed a large photograph in the hallway.   It showed
> three yellow LAFD trucks: 3, 80, and 180.   (180 is *BIG*!)
> Is this just an obsolete photo, or is there some story behind
> this?   Did I miss an earlier explaination?
>
> BTW, Brian, I (and I think I speak for many of us here) appreciate
> your participation in this group.   The openness of the LAFD is
> to be commended, and should be a model for other public agencies.
> I think you are doing a great job.
>
> Now if your management can just get their act together regarding
> your dispatching system...   :-)
>
> --  Alan E. Frisbie               [e-mail]
> --  Flying Disk Systems, Inc.
> --  Los Angeles, CA 90065Alan, could these be ARFF rigs(airport crash units)
? I believe 80 is the
CFR station at LAX. Just a thought.

Bob........Ex Crash Fire Rescue, Orange County Fire - John Wayne Airport


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From: [e-mail] (Brian Humphrey)
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Subject: Re: Non-red Los Angeles fire trucks
Date: 5 Sep 1996 19:31:35 GMT
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[e-mail] (Alan Frisbie) wrote:

>As I recall, Brian Humphries (did I spell that right?) said
>that there was only one non-red truck in the Los Angeles
>Fire Department.

Hello Alan,

Due to my perception that there is a wide interest in your question
(dunno why, but it's apparently there <grin>), I will answer your
questions publicly.

Actually it is "Humphrey". No problem...

>Yesterday, I was down in the L.A. EOC (Emergency Operations Center)
>and noticed a large photograph in the hallway.   It showed
>three yellow LAFD trucks: 3, 80, and 180.   (180 is *BIG*!)
>Is this just an obsolete photo, or is there some story behind
>this?   Did I miss an earlier explaination?

Doggone it Alan! My Office is there at the EOC...I encourage you or
others that ___have a security clearance___ to stop by and say hello.

To answer your question... As I recall, the earlier thread was specific
to "Engines" (emphasis added). The LAFD experimented in the early 1970's
with a couple of different colors on a handful of rigs. To this day, the
only Engine that is yellow is LAFD Engine 51 that is part of the primary
Crash-Fire-Rescue (CFR) complement at LAX.

We don't -technically- consider the remainder of the CFR rigs (Crash 80,
Foam 180,Foam 280,Foam 380 at LAX or Crash 90 at Van Nuys Airport) to be
Engines, per say. They all bear a yellow (or for the newer rigs a lime
green) paint scheme in response to an FAA edict for apparatus that is
jointly purchased with federal funds.

As well as CFR responsibilites, LAFD Engine 51 has primary response for
Fire and EMS runs in the busy LAX Terminal area. It is frequently seen
parked in front of terminals, causing many first-time visitors to LA to
think we have changed the color of our fleet.

>BTW, Brian, I (and I think I speak for many of us here) appreciate
>your participation in this group.   The openness of the LAFD is
>to be commended, and should be a model for other public agencies.
>I think you are doing a great job.

Thank You. It is nice to be appreciated by such stalwart supporters of
the fire service as monitoring enthusiasts.

>Now if your management can just get their act together regarding
>your dispatching system...   :-)

Yes, FCCS II is a nightmare (software and integration problems)...or was
ther some other aspect that was troubling to you.

Please contact me whenver I can be of assistance, or visit the LAFD
Website at:

http://www.ci.la.ca.us/dept/LAFD

Stay Safe!

Brian Humphrey
Public Information Officer
Los Angeles City Fire Department

Please direct any __Department related__ e-mail for me to:
<[e-mail]>



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From: <[e-mail]>


Anyone have frequencies for Norfolk CO. Mass?

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From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 16:55:14 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Daniel M. Conti)
Subject: Re: NYC Area Scanner Net Tonight
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[e-mail] (Keith Knipschild) wrote:

>If your in the NYC area ( NJ/CT/LI ) there is a Scanner Net that
>is on 147.360 Mhz at 8pm Wednesdays...
>The Net Host is N2NOV - Charlie

>I would like to try having a IRC Room open, So if your around
>stop by " #NYCSCANNERNET " on the undernet server..

>Use the Main Undernet Server at: us.undernet.org

>See ya there,
>Keith

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Keith,

This is good news.  I was an avid listener to this NET before it
disappeared.

I will try and catch you in the IRC....
[e-mail]
Compuserve - 71242,1774     Amateur Radio - N2TYB
Ridgefield, New Jersey



From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 16:55:14 1996
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From: [e-mail] (T. Mooney)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Oakville/ Toronto freq's.
Date: Fri, 06 Sep 1996 18:59:11 GMT
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I was wondering if any one has the frequencies to Toronto police or
things in oakville, eg: security companys, etc. any help would be
appreciated..



From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 16:55:15 1996
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From: Ron Williscroft <[e-mail]>
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To: "T. Mooney" <[e-mail]>

T. Mooney wrote:
>
> I was wondering if any one has the frequencies to Toronto police or
> things in oakville, eg: security companys, etc. any help would be
> appreciated..

--
Best bet is to walk inot a RADIO SHACK store and buy a copy of the
Haruteq guide. Best frequency book in Ontario.
-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
Ron Williscroft, EMR-D                  Amatuer Radio: VE4QE
Pine Falls District Ambulance           Communications Specialist
Pine Falls, Manitoba, Canada            Radio Ops Instructor/Examiner

P.S.>>>>>PULL TO THE RIGHT AND STOP....Seconds can save someone you
love!


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 16:55:16 1996
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From: [e-mail] (<Gary Newcomer)
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Subject: ohio freqs
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would anyone have freqs for  the  DEA,FBI,ATF,or anything other than the
reguler police or sherriff for  Lima,Ohio (Allen County)area.  State also??



                                                              thanks,  Nuke


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 16:55:17 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Bill Cheek)
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Subject: Re: Open Letter About Moderating This Newsgroup
Date: Fri, 06 Sep 1996 08:07:34 GMT
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"James P. Meyer" <[e-mail]> wrote:

>> Speaking of which, what's the story on alt.syntax.tactical?
>> It's listed on my server, but no headers come down when I
>> query it.

>       I see a lot of groups like that.  Groups are so easy to start that
>many get started without a large group of folks to keep them going so they
>just wither on the vine, so to speak.  Groups also tend to exist for a
>long time after everybody stops using them.  Have you tried posting there?
>Perhaps everybody is reading and nobody is posting.

<snicker>  That must certainly be true for a lot of newsgroups, but
NOT for alt.syntax.tactical.  This is one baaaaaaaad-assed newsgroup.
More than likely, my ISP/server won't import the postings.  As I
understand it, these guys have the power to shut down the US
Government, and even switchy-swatchy it with Russia's, if they wanted
to bad enough.

I was thinking about getting on there and boning up a little.  :-)

Bill



From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 16:55:19 1996
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On Wed, 4 Sep 1996, Bill Cheek wrote:

> Speaking of which, what's the story on alt.syntax.tactical?
> It's listed on my server, but no headers come down when I
> query it.

        I see a lot of groups like that.  Groups are so easy to start that
many get started without a large group of folks to keep them going so they
just wither on the vine, so to speak.  Groups also tend to exist for a
long time after everybody stops using them.  Have you tried posting there?
Perhaps everybody is reading and nobody is posting.

        Jim


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 16:55:20 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Bill Cheek)
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"James P. Meyer" <[e-mail]> wrote:

>On Wed, 4 Sep 1996, Bill Cheek wrote:
>
>> Hence, my directness and bluntness in evoking anwers to
>> questions that were genuine on my part, and probably in a
>> lot of others who were intimidated into not asking.
>>
>> Bill Cheek
>> (Voicing my own dumb opinions)

>       You have no need to feel intimidated, Bill.

Nooo, I'm not.  I'm immune to intimidation, but a lot of
people aren't.  There was no real invitation to discuss the
proposal to create a moderated forum, and it appeared there
was an overt disinclination to discuss.  This could have
been an intimidation factor to which I alluded.

>       You could give users a choice of news groups.  Competition is a
>good thing, in America at least.

Always.  Next to compound interest, it's inspirational.
Speaking of which, what's the story on alt.syntax.tactical?
It's listed on my server, but no headers come down when I
query it.

Bill




From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 16:55:22 1996
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       GROUP!  A NEW WINNER EMERGES.  NOTED THAT THE "CHEEKS GUY" HAS
   BEEN REMISS FOR A FEW DAYS...NOW IT SEEMS THAT WE HAVE A NEW EMPEROR
   OF THE DEARTH IN THIS POSTER NAMED ALEXANDER.....Notice how he is
   very careful not to use the POOP word....he calls it by "shit" ...
   I guess this qualifies for scanner-talk according to the new order
   of things....

      OK...Alexander, Michael....how are you going to keep interest
   in this group as did the Cheeks Guy? Do you continually tell people
   to SHUT THE HELL UP?  Something the "cheeks guy" did not do...he
   welcomed all and no one to engage with....

     Or is there going to be more voices heard to try to fill in the
     silence left by the Cheeks Guy who evidently is still asleep and
     has not awoke to this new challenge to "take over".....

     OOOPS!

     At least with "the cheeks guy" you had a choice....either rebut
     him or put him in a kill file.  Nasty business telling people to
     obey somone who assumes that all will now have to listen because
     "you say so"....

     I too proposed that anyone with a gripe against the Cheeks Guy
     take it to e-mail....personal bantering on personal time.  The
     response was: well, you have been reading it for some time now.
     Everyone wants to be seen as attacking "the Cheeks Guy" for all
     to know and then forget....

     Now ... have you anything to say about scanning which is of a
     Priority One Need To Know?   More than "...just shut up".....

     bill conduit
     the "etc" guy







In <[e-mail]> [e-mail]
(Michael Alexander) writes:
>
>In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail]
wrote:
>[discussion related to group moderation]
>
>> >>>>>>>>>WHAT IS THIS B.S. THIS IS A GROUP ABOUT SCANNING, WTF ARE
ALL
>YOU BABIES SPAMMING FOR???
>> TAKE THIS CRAP TO E-MAIL, MOST OF US WANT TO SEE ARTICLES BOUT
SCANNING
>
>Hmmm, suspect this one was written by a tyro who just got his Internet
>license. Notice the ALL CAPS,  a sure sign of a rank amateur. Then
there is
>the obvious misuse of the term "spam," which certainly does not apply
in
>this case since this post was was only posted posted here. Last, there
is
>the admonishment to take this to e-mail, which is certainly
inappropriate
>since the discussion about moderating a scanner forum in certainly on
>topic.
>
>The only observation that Bobmac has made that is worth a shit is that
most
>people do want to see articles "bout" scanning. So, I'll tell you what
>Bobmac, why don't you post something worthwhile or shut the hell up?
>
>--
>Michael Alexander
>[e-mail]



From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 16:55:23 1996
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From: Porchnoy <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Opinions on Sky Scan Desk Ant
Date: Tue, 10 Sep 1996 22:34:38 -0400
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PH wrote:
>
> I would be interested in opinions anyone may have on the performance
> of the Sky Scan Desk Top 1300 antenna that was reviewed in MT a few
> months back.
It was a joke.  The antenna does not exist.
--
Fixing used Volvos is probably easier and more fun than
trying to get Abe Lincoln re-admitted to Pat Buchanan's
party [the Republican Party].
   -- Editorial: The New York Times (August 14, 1996)


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 16:55:24 1996
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From: [e-mail] (PH)
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I would be interested in opinions anyone may have on the performance
of the Sky Scan Desk Top 1300 antenna that was reviewed in MT a few
months back.




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> > Is there enough radio traffic to justify taking a scanner?
>
>     Traffic tends to be sparse outside of the stops, assuming there are no
> problems, but there are interesting tidbits from time to time. I find it
> comforting to hear the automated waypoints announce "Milepost xx - No defect
s"
> every 20-30 miles (I keep waiting for the computer voice to say "Holy Sh*t -
> have you got problems!").
>     Bring batteries as well as 120v xformer - the interesting communications
> occur when you lose power. On the Crescent I find a flashlight is also a goo
d
> idea <g>.
>                                                        /* barry /&

Another bonus south of Richmond on CSX is that the defect detectors also
give train speed, somewhat unusual compared to other Amtrak routes.
--
Kent L. Weissinger, railfan, lawyer "You cross a lawyer with the
Godfather, baby, make you an offer you can't understand." -Don Henley
http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/3985/  Gulf Wind Chapter, NRHS


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 16:55:27 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Miro Ivankovic, SKS[ Maribor)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: PLEASE Info on the best VHF/UHF scanner
Date: 12 Sep 96 20:57:24 GMT
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Hello,

I am looking for the 'best choice' of the VHF/UHF (incl. Air)
handheld scanners.  Could someone give me any advice on this.

However, I don't care about HF (SSB...) but I want a good perfor-
mance nearby 100-500 MHz (AM/NFM) and above.

Generally, all requirements are: good VHF/UHF and AirBand, high
level audio output and maybe standard batt. size - 'AA'

Thanks, in advance, for the help and any information.


Miro Ivankovic
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From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 16:55:28 1996
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From: Roland.Stiner%1:2619/211.9 (Roland Stiner%1:2619/211.9)
Date: 02 Sep 96 08:07:00
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: POLICE 10 CODES
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To: Roland Stiner%1:2619/211.9%12:320/100.666
From: [e-mail] (Roland Stiner)
Organization: MAG Systems, Inc/TFP BBS
Subject: POLICE 10 CODES


T>If anyone out there has a decent list of the 10-codes and Signal codes for
 >the Daytona Beach PD, please contact me via email.  I've been going nuts
 >listening to my scanner and trying to figure out what exactly the hell is
 >going on. :)

I have the same problem for my small town...

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From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 16:55:29 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Orca)
Subject: Re: POLICE 10 CODES
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The book "Monitor America" 3rd edition 1996 includes police 10 codes and
also crime codes [ i.e. 415, 211, etc. ] for major metro areas.  There are
local variations to the 10 codes, so what applies in Virginia, may or may
not apply in Texas, or any other state.   It is a wealth of information
and was definately worth the price IMO.

Jeff De Heer ([e-mail]) wrote:
: Jerry Laffert wrote:
: >
: >  T>If anyone out there has a decent list of the 10-codes and Signal codes
fo
: >  T>the Daytona Beach PD, please contact me via email.  I've been going nut
s
: >  T>listening to my scanner and trying to figure out what exactly the hell
: >
: >  RS> I have the same problem for my small town...
: >
: >  Are you all so afraid of a uniform that you can't ask a cop?
: >  Many PD's print and pass out free copies of their 10-codes,
: >  but you folks sound like you're too intimidated to ask.

:       I live in Grand Rapids, MI, and have been trying for months to get
: the police & fire 10-codes.  I have called both deparements, and the
: both
: have said that they may not give me that information.  I have called
: mulitple
: times, but get the same answer each time.  Maybe GR is different that
: way, this
: is a dutch community...  ;-)  Oh well, just a though...

: --
: <*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*>
:                   From:  Jeff De Heer
:                          (often refered to as Fre, pronounced free...)
:                   E-Mail: [e-mail]
:                   WWW: http://www.calvin.edu/~jdehee00/
:                   Vice President & Student Member of
:                    the Calvin College chapter of ASME

: The ever famous food for thought:

:         The variable achievment gradient assiduously ascribed a
: regrettably unpropitious exponential symbol to the diagnostic
: instrument,
: which I benignly submitted for judicious academic consideratory
: purposes.

:                       Translation:  I got an E.

:                                         -- Unknown

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From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 16:55:30 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Don Payne)
Subject: Re: pr0-2035
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Steve Marlin <[e-mail]> wrote:
>I just picked up a Radio Shack Pro-2035. I would like to modify it to
>pick up the cell ranges. Can anyone tell me how ??? or should I take it
>back to the store and hit the pawn shops for a older scanner ??
>
>Thanks for any help.

Yeah!! Your 2035 is certainly similar to my 2037.  A base unit, slant front,,
plastic
construction...C'mon!! This is a brand new unit!! It's time to hack!@ HACK!! H
ack>>

Regards,
Don WB5IQV/9
[e-mail]


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 16:55:31 1996
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I just picked up a Radio Shack Pro-2035. I would like to modify it to
pick up the cell ranges. Can anyone tell me how ??? or should I take it
back to the store and hit the pawn shops for a older scanner ??

Thanks for any help.


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 16:55:32 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Bill Cheek)
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Subject: Re: pr0-2035
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[e-mail] (Don Payne) wrote:

>Sorry...only part of the note went out. For the 2035 mods try the FTP site
>pub/hamradio/mods/tandy at oak.oakland.edu. This should have what you need.
>and...happy hacking....

It doesn't.



From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 16:55:34 1996
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From: Jonathan Clough <[e-mail]>
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In article <[e-mail]>
           [e-mail] "Steve Marlin" writes:

Hi Steve,

> I just picked up a Radio Shack Pro-2035. I would like to modify it to
> pick up the cell ranges. Can anyone tell me how ??? or should I take it
> back to the store and hit the pawn shops for a older scanner ??

The only way to actually restore the cellular frequencies to allow keyboard
entry is replace the Main CPU with the one that was used here in the UK,
Europe and elsewhere.

The Opto 535 board will also allow full cellular coverage altough you have
to have the receiver hooked uop to a PC for this.


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From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 16:55:35 1996
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From: [e-mail] (randy stock)
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Subject: pro 200 and 46 mods
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Could someone please point me in the right direction as to where I can
find mods for the pro 200 and the pro 46.Could you please e-mail me or
post it.e-mail is [e-mail]

             Once again thank you.



From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 16:55:36 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Larry Murphy)
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Subject: PRO 60 MODS NEEDED
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Need any mods for the RS PRO 60..


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 16:55:37 1996
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From: [e-mail] (m. mattson)
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[e-mail] (Richard B. Edelman) wrote:

>I have misplaced my PRO-2006 manual and would like to change the
>priority channel from one channel to another.  Can anyone give me a few
>lines on how to do this?
(edited for space)
"press PROGRAM
press desired channel number
press PRI

done


Mark

The truth as I perceive it to be.
Your perception will be different.




From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 16:55:38 1996
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In <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Richard B.
Edelman) writes:
>
>I have misplaced my PRO-2006 manual and would like to change the
>priority channel from one channel to another.  Can anyone give me a
few
>lines on how to do this?

try

[PROGRAM]
[ <channel number> ]
[PRI]


--
David Palmer                     [e-mail]
Monterey, CA


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 16:55:39 1996
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Don't have any answers for you but can tell you from experience that the
tekkies who work on RS products generally don't give a flip as to whether
you've modded or not (especially in the case of a simple, clipped diode).
Past performance, however, is not indicative of future performance. But if
it bugs you, send it in. From what my RS store manager says, they don't
have time to care. MOO.

(((((((((((
In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] wrote:

> Strange problem - my 2006 scanner has had a volume drop that is
> specific to the 800 MHz band.  I have to turn the volume up
> considerably higher that on other bands to reach the same volume.
>
> Any ideas?  I absolutely do not want to send it to RS for repair;
> don't trust them to send it back with the 800 band still accessable.
>
> thanks,
> jeff


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 16:55:40 1996
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From: Steve Marlin <[e-mail]>
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Subject: PRO-2035 Mods
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Thank you for the replies to my question of modifications to the 2035
scanner.  I bought the unit on the spur of the moment because it was a
good buy. I'll do a little more homework before I buy another scanner.
I am quite pleased with the unit even without the cell ranges.
I may look into adding the OS535 board in the future.


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 16:55:42 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Bill Cheek)
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Subject: Re: PRO-2035 Mods?
Date: Fri, 06 Sep 1996 08:07:46 GMT
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Karl Schultz <[e-mail]> wrote:

>>>>Tom Sledge wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Any known mods for this Scanner?

>>>I'd look in ftp: oak.oakland.edu in /pub/hamradio/mods.
>>>
>>> You'd strike out, pal.

>>Your're right.  I should have checked first.

Well, that's one point, all right, but really the least.  More
importantly is WHAT you can expect to find in such rat holes.

>> So why  give him the old run-around?  One, there is nothing
>> there for the PRO-2035, and two, what is there, is stuff of
>> fairly low degree.  Basic stuff.  Stuff that fits into short
>> ASCII files written by half-literates.

> The source I cited has been useful to me and others for quite awhile,
> despite whatever opinion you may have. I thought that others looking
> for (other) mods might think so too.

Ohhhh, it ain't a matter of opinion, pal.  The quality and content of
such archives speaks for itself.  Just like in the game of poker, the
cards speak for themselves and there is no "opinion" of which is the
winning hand.  "Useful" is one thing.  If you want the cellular mod
for a PRO-37 or the wideband unlock for an Icom IC-2GAT, sure, the
archives will have those kinds of files.  "Clip-a-diode" or "add-a-
resistor" kinds of things that can be described in a few lines or
paragraphs.  But those kinds of modifications are in the rare
minority.

> Perhaps you know of a better repository for mods?????

Ummmmmm, yes.  Books.  Magazines.  Newsletters.  Where the authors are
compensated for attention to detail and quality.  Where you get more
than a few paragraphs with plenty of graphics, photos, tables, charts,
and such.

Don't get me wrong.  A writer does not need compensation for exposing
the cellular mod for a PRO-2006.  Or the wideband Tx mod for most ham
transceivers.  And for this kind of thing, the FTP archives are
wonderful.

Don't expect to find out there how to turn a 400-ch scanner into a
25,600-ch scanner or how to interface a computer to your scanner; or
how to make a slick "smart" circuit that differentiates among
different kinds of signals.  Or how to make a cheap lowpass
filter/amplifier that detects CTCSS tones......  catch my drift?

Bill Cheek
Scannist Extraordinaire


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From: Bill.Cheek%1:2619/211.9 (Bill Cheek%1:2619/211.9)
Date: 04 Sep 96 11:17:58
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From: [e-mail] (Bill Cheek)
Subject: Re: PRO-2035 Mods?
Organization: COMMtronics Engineering/World Scanner Report

Tom Sledge <[e-mail]> wrote:

>Any known mods for this Scanner?

Dozens.  What do you want to do to yours?

Bill


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From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 16:55:43 1996
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Tom Sledge wrote:
>
> Any known mods for this Scanner?

I'd look in ftp: oak.oakland.edu in /pub/hamradio/mods.

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From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 16:55:44 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Michael Alexander)
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Subject: Re: PRO-2035 Mods?
Date: Fri, 06 Sep 1996 06:24:54 -0400
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In article <322f05c5.43967583@192.188.72.23>, [e-mail] wrote:
>
> That's all well and good, except that "mods" are not "available" in
> the customary sense, period.  On the archives and BBS file areas, all
> you're going to find are those kinds of mods that involve "clip a
> diode"; "add a resistor"; or "slit a trace".  Once in a rare while,
> something a little more involved gets posted and archived, but it is
> rare.  And when it does happen, the sytax, grammar, and exactness of
> details are often left suffering.
>

The 2035 and 2042 can be modified for computer control and/or to receive
cellular frequencies. Both mods are readily available and are probably the
most desireable things that hobbyists want to do (if past posts indicate
anything, it is that people mainly want to listen to cell phones when they
are inquiring about mods). These are mods available in the customary
sense, period.

Your options are to
--install the Optoelectronics OS535, software and obtain the unlock code;
must use PC to receive cellular;
--swap out the CPU, which can be purchased from overseas (Javiation in
particular); no PC needed but no computer control either.

--
Michael Alexander
[e-mail]


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 16:55:45 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Larry Jandro)
Subject: Pro-51 Test Modes
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I have tried to get to some of the test modes of the Pro-51 with no success.

Specifically, the press 2,9,L/Out while turning on the scanner to load
frequencies into channels 1-23.  This procedure does nothing.  My scanner is
brand new from the R/S store with a date code of 11A3, so this should work -
right..?

Thanks,

Larry Jandro, Owner [On the office Gateway]
*       LJ Video Engineering       *      WARNING...!!!      *
*        near San Francisco        *  Keyboard Not Attached  *
*  http://www.ljvideo.com/larryj   *  Press F10 To Continue. *


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 16:55:47 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Mark S. Conway)
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Subject: Re: Radio Shack FRS radios
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Here's another good one....
Why would they issue the 467 band? I know they
cant have repeaters on the FRS


[e-mail] wrote:

>I just noticed in the new Radio Shack Catalog Item #21-1805 their
>Motorola FRS 7 channel radio.  Didn't the FCC allocate 14 freqs. for
>FRS?  That'd be like buying a CB with only ch 21-40.  What's the deal?
>Do they expect you go go GMRS if you want the other seven channels?  If I
>do go with FRS, I certainly intend to wait until I can buy a 14 channel
>radio...

>Any information regarding this situation would be appreciated...  I had
>been awaiting FRS ever since I had heard of it, as short range
>communications are the only reason I have handheld CBs in the first place....
>But now, I am skeptical, at least with the RS radios....

>TIA

>--
>--Patrick

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From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 16:55:49 1996
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Rob Neff ([e-mail]) wrote:

: The FRS uses all of the GMRS interstitials and the new 467 FRS
: channels for a total of 14.

: 462.5625
: 462.5875
: 462.6125
: 462.6375
: 462.6625
: 462.6875
: 462.7125
: 467.5625
: 467.5875
: 467.6125
: 467.6375
: 467.6625
: 467.6875
: 467.7125

: Rob Neff (N7ORY)

Would you happen to know which 7 of the 14 the new RS radios have? (and
why they don't have all 14?  Or if any other manufacturer has (or intends
to) make a unit with all 14?  Thanks.....

--
--Patrick

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From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 16:55:49 1996
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From: [e-mail] (David Horak)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.cb,rec.radio.scanner,alt.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Radio Shack FRS radios
Date: 9 Sep 1996 13:30:33 -0500
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In <50va0j$[e-mail]> [e-mail] writes:

>I just noticed in the new Radio Shack Catalog Item #21-1805 their
>Motorola FRS 7 channel radio.  Didn't the FCC allocate 14 freqs. for
>FRS?  That'd be like buying a CB with only ch 21-40.  What's the deal?
>Do they expect you go go GMRS if you want the other seven channels?  If I
>do go with FRS, I certainly intend to wait until I can buy a 14 channel
>radio...

>Any information regarding this situation would be appreciated...  I had
>been awaiting FRS ever since I had heard of it, as short range
>communications are the only reason I have handheld CBs in the first place....
>But now, I am skeptical, at least with the RS radios....

 I believe the FRS only allocates these 7 channels.

 David


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From: [e-mail] (G.M. Alf)
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Subject: Re: Radio Shack FRS radios
Date: Tue, 10 Sep 1996 03:26:44 GMT
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>
>Would you happen to know which 7 of the 14 the new RS radios have? (and
>why they don't have all 14?  Or if any other manufacturer has (or intends
>to) make a unit with all 14?  Thanks.....

I've used a couple of PRS-100s for close to three years now and I've
never heard another person on either of the 2 channels the units are
capable of operating on, 2 of the same frequencies FRS uses.  The only
interference I've run into has been pager transmitters and nearby GMRS
mobiles bleeding over from the main frequencies.

Mike



From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 16:55:51 1996
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From: [e-mail] (John Wilkerson)
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Mark S. Conway ([e-mail]) wrote:
: Here's another good one....
: Why would they issue the 467 band? I know they
: cant have repeaters on the FRS

    Well, they need to put the channels _somewhere_.  Doesn't matter
where on the frequency spectrum a service is put.  Repeaters or no repeaters.


--
     John L. Wilkerson Jr.        [e-mail]




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From: [e-mail] (John Wilkerson)
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G.M. Alf ([e-mail]) wrote:

: >
: >Would you happen to know which 7 of the 14 the new RS radios have? (and
: >why they don't have all 14?  Or if any other manufacturer has (or intends
: >to) make a unit with all 14?  Thanks.....

: I've used a couple of PRS-100s for close to three years now and I've
: never heard another person on either of the 2 channels the units are
: capable of operating on, 2 of the same frequencies FRS uses.  The only
: interference I've run into has been pager transmitters and nearby GMRS
: mobiles bleeding over from the main frequencies.

      That gets me..... Thr GMRS people are so worried about FRS bleeding
over onto their repeater freqs..... BUT their own service interferes with
its own channels :)



--
     John L. Wilkerson Jr.        [e-mail]




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From: [e-mail] (Frederick Kelcz)
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Subject: Re: Radio Shack FRS radios
Date: Wed, 11 Sep 1996 10:17:44 +1000
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>: I've used a couple of PRS-100s for close to three years now and I've
>: never heard another person on either of the 2 channels the units are
>: capable of operating on, 2 of the same frequencies FRS uses.  The only
>: interference I've run into has been pager transmitters and nearby GMRS
>: mobiles bleeding over from the main frequencies.

>      That gets me..... Thr GMRS people are so worried about FRS bleeding
>over onto their repeater freqs..... BUT their own service interferes with
>its own channels :)

I think there is a misunderstanding here - FRS and GMRS share
interstitial frequencies in the 462.5625 - 462.7125 freq band and a weak
handheld, for eg. on 462.5625 is not likely to interfere with base operation
on 462.550 Mhz.

HOWEVER, the other severn FRS channels (not shared with GMRS) are the
interstitial channels BETWEEN the GMRS repeater INPUT channels.  Here, a weak
handheld close to a repeater (a few blocks away) on 467.5625 may, in fact,
desensitize the repeater to a mobile unit on 467.550 Mhz 10 miles away, trying

to key up the repeater for 462.55 Mhz.   To try to prevent this, the FCC
imposed stricter technical specs on FRS radios.

F Kelcz,
ARS N9SLR
GMRS KAE5707
Frederick Kelcz, PhD, MD
Dept. of Radiology
University of Wisconsin, Madison


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 16:55:55 1996
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From: [e-mail]
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Subject: Re: Radio Shack FRS radios
Date: Wed, 11 Sep 1996 13:07:58 -0500
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What does FRS stand for? Is it a "modern replacment" for CB's?

Vince


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 16:55:56 1996
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From: [e-mail] (RfSam)
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Subject: RADIO SHACK PRO-2035 SCANNER  9-8
Date: 8 Sep 1996 19:07:13 -0400
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RADIO SHACK PRO-2035 DESKTOP SCANNER
1000 MEMORY CHANNELS
COVERAGE IS FROM    25-520MHZ and 760-1300MHZ  (excluding cellular)
EXCELLENT CONDITION
$265


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 16:55:57 1996
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From: John Graf <[e-mail]>
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Copying to This Group:
John Graf wrote:
>
> The local Radio Shack outlets  in Vancouver,  Canada, have a Model
> PRO-60, on sale for $320 Canadian ($235 US). I am looking for a
> scanner to use at Indycar races but know nothing about them. The text
> of their  ad says:
>
> "Features extended coverage, triple conversion, AMFM/FM wide mode and
> priority channel. With 100 channels per second search speed and 25
> channels per second scanning speed. Frequency coverage: 30-512;
> 760-824; 849-869; 894-999.9875 MHz.
>
> Can anyone give me comments on whether this will work well for Indycar
> races and whether it is a good deal? They say the regular price is
> C$470 (US$ 345).


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 16:56:00 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Rich Carlson)
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Subject: Re: Radio Shack Scanners in Canada
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When I was in ON in June, I looked at a couple different scanners at Radio
Shack, and none had cellular.  I also stopped at Atlantic Radio in
Toronto, and they had cellular capable scanners there.


In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail]
(Jason Lewis) wrote:

** Can anyone tell my if the over-the-counter scanners sold by Radio
** Shack have full 800Mhz range when bought outside of the USA.. Such as
** Canada??
**
** I will be making a trip next month to Canada, and I may pick up a new
** scanner (If they can recieve Full 800Mhz..)
**
** Thanks for any info...
**
**
**
**
**
**                                                 - Jason Lewis
**
** ==
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--
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From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 16:56:01 1996
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From: [e-mail]
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Radio Shack's 1997 Catalog Policy
Date: Thu, 05 Sep 1996 23:12:50 -0800
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Just as an FYI from Texas: The last three RS stores i've been in the last
week all had catalogues in point-of-purchase displays free for the taking.
One was a franchise store and the other two were corporate. No problems as
long as the supply lasts.

))))))))))))))))

In article <50m16e$[e-mail]>,
[e-mail](BAYCITVIDGRP) wrote:

> In <50dp6u$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Jim
> Wishner) writes:
> >
> >
> >perhaps it also will re-evaluate the policy of asking customers for
> their
> >names, addresses, etc.  some (myself included) consider this an
> invasion
> >of privacy, and a waste of time.
> >
> >dejim
> >
>      All you have to do when they ask those redundancies
>       is to say: "CASH"....and count my change carefully..."
>
>      Puts them off center...or just give them the STARE and
>      refuse to talk to them any further.....it gets them
>      off center....
>
>      or ask to see their driver's license to make sure
>      they are HUMANS....registered.
>
>      anything to make them aware that "I pay cash, i no
>      gotto show you no stinkin badges"....
>
>      bill


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 16:56:02 1996
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Subject: Re: Radio Shack's 1997 Catalog Policy
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Being a Radio Shack employee I can tell you that the person who changed
the price to 0.00 is did this because he just didn't want to be bothered
with an arguement. You still have to pay the stupid $2.95. Me, I
sometimes give the darn things away when I know there is a sale or
soon-to-be sale involved. Wy argue over a catalog? Customers are lost
over it.



From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 16:56:03 1996
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From: ron cain <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: Radio Shack's 1997 Catalog Policy
Date: Sun, 08 Sep 1996 09:00:12 -0700
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Your User Name wrote:
>
> Being a Radio Shack employee I can tell you that I
> sometimes give the darn things away when I know there is a sale or
> soon-to-be sale involved. Wy argue over a catalog? Customers are lost
> over it.

Exactly User, so why does Radio Shack continue to irritate its
customers by sometimes charging $2.95 and other times giving
catalogues away for free at corporate stores?

This isn't a flame. I would really like to know why RS is being
so silly about this issue. Most of the people on this newsgroup
have been going to RS since they were kids.

The way I figure it is, RS owes us for making them the huge
success they have become. Instead, they instituted the $3 price tag
on a catalogue that was formerly free.

I don't know about anybody else, but over the last couple of years I
hardly EVER go to RS anymore. And it's getting easier to forget about
them. BTW, I got my new RS catalogue for free by showing the flier.


Cheers, Ron Cain


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In <50dp6u$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Jim
Wishner) writes:
>
>
>perhaps it also will re-evaluate the policy of asking customers for
their
>names, addresses, etc.  some (myself included) consider this an
invasion
>of privacy, and a waste of time.
>
>dejim
>
     All you have to do when they ask those redundancies
      is to say: "CASH"....and count my change carefully..."

     Puts them off center...or just give them the STARE and
     refuse to talk to them any further.....it gets them
     off center....

     or ask to see their driver's license to make sure
     they are HUMANS....registered.

     anything to make them aware that "I pay cash, i no
     gotto show you no stinkin badges"....

     bill


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 16:56:05 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Dwight R. Hayes, Jr.)
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Subject: Re: Radio Shack's 1997 Catalog Policy
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Have you checked your mailbox lately?  On the flyer that they sent out this
month they had a "coupon" for a free catalog.



From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 16:56:06 1996
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From: John Pelura III <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Random Thoughts About the Upgrade Bug / Scanner Features
Date: Sun, 08 Sep 1996 16:08:49 -0500
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David Bernazzani wrote:
>
> Would it be worth the cost to upgrade and sell old equipment...
> probably not.

I know what you mean. I've got a 200XLT with certain mod's that I've
been happy with for years. But I'm looking into an AR8000 very
seriously. Great rage, able to be controlled via a computer, PASSWORDS,
(but it sounds cool), dot matrix screen, more freq's than I know what to
do with, but the price....I'm trying to convince myself that $700 and
some change (computer interface, software, etc) is worth it for these
'features'. Hell, I still use an old Realistic Pro-20A for some local
stuff.

Anyway, I'm sure if you bought 'this years model' you'd be writing the
same message next year, only a few hundred dollars poorer.

john


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From: [e-mail] (Claude Alan Cartee)
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Subject: Re: Random Thoughts About the Upgrade Bug / Scanner Features
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   David Bernazzani wrote:
   >
   > Would it be worth the cost to upgrade and sell old equipment...
   > probably not.

   I know what you mean. I've got a 200XLT with certain mod's that I've
   been happy with for years. But I'm looking into an AR8000 very
   seriously. Great rage, able to be controlled via a computer, PASSWORDS,
   (but it sounds cool), dot matrix screen, more freq's than I know what to
   do with, but the price....I'm trying to convince myself that $700 and
   some change (computer interface, software, etc) is worth it for these
   'features'. Hell, I still use an old Realistic Pro-20A for some local
   stuff.

   Anyway, I'm sure if you bought 'this years model' you'd be writing the
   same message next year, only a few hundred dollars poorer.

   john
------------------------------------------------------------------------
Except, what is _really_ new?

The AOR8k is at least 1.5 years old.

The BC-9/3ks are about the same age.

The RS-2042 is just a firmware update.

Sure the Icom, and AOR have introduced some new high-end units, but
nothing that the 'average' consumer is going to afford.

Hey Uniden, how about a computer controlled BC-9000 class scanner? ;)


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 16:56:07 1996
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From: [e-mail] (m. mattson)
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[e-mail] (testb) wrote:

>Does anyone know where I can send my Regency 1500
>scanner to be repaired?  Everything appears to work
>ok except the audio output.  First the speaker
>didn't work, but the headphone did.  Now there is
>no audio at all.
If you have been useing the headphone on a regular basis, the problem
is almost certainly broken solder joints at the headphone jack.



Mark

The truth as I perceive it to be.
Your perception will be different.




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From: [e-mail] (Michael Schuster)
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In article <50vto0$[e-mail]>,
Jeff Goldman <[e-mail]> wrote:
>Any opinions out there on what is the best replacement rubber ducky
>antenna. Please post.
>

GRE all-band. Otherwise known as the Radio Shack PRO-34 (THIRTY FOUR)
replacement part, or the "Red Top" from CRB Research.


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From: [e-mail] (Dan Morgan)
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On Wed, 28 Aug 1996 12:34:48 -0800, Red Red Groovy
<[e-mail]> wrote:
>Since Tandy Support is being very unhelpful, I am looking to
>       contact someone with a spare PRO-2006 manual or the ability to
>       make a copy of one. I'd appreciate a reply for anyone who can
>       give a hand or point me in the right direction! Thanks...
>
>       Derek Moore
>       [e-mail]
>
>--
>"A group of my friends started the Church of Hello Kitty at Phenomicon in
>Atlanta, 1992. They did it as a revolt against the Church of the SubGenius,
>because, in their words 'Hello Kitty moves more product than 'Bob' and is
>loved by more nubile young Japanese girls.'"     --http://www.latexnet.org
If things don't work out, I have the Pro-2005 manual. The two are
very, very similar. I think the only difference was the speed of scan
and search. I am be wrong.


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James F. Boehner, MD wrote:

> Unfortunately, that is not universal.  I went in to buy a repeater
> atlas, and asked for a catalog. I was charged full price for the
> catalog.  As the saying goes, it's not the money-it's the principle of
> the thing.  After all the money I've spent at Rat Shack over the last
> 25-odd years, I should not have to pay for a catalog-especially since I
> use it to obtain stock numbers to help the salesmen out.  How about your
> views?  send them to Radio Shack:
>
> [e-mail]
>
> Otherwise, expect a hard line approach to catalogs in the future by the
> salespersons (NO Exceptions to the fee) and higher fees.
>
> Thanks for everyone's help!
>
> '73 de JIM N2ZZ

That about echos my experience.  I (sorry to say) worked for Radio Shack
a few years ago (but I could only take their sleasy tacktics for so long),
and they charged ME, as an exmployee, the $3.

Thanks for the email address of Tandy... they shall hear from me :)

TTYL


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From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 16:56:13 1996
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From: Michael Pelletier <[e-mail]>
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MEM&GWM wrote:
>
> "James F. Boehner, MD" <[e-mail]> wrote:
>
> >Clint Bradford wrote:
> >>
> >> >>I guess I'm now an "insider" so here's my info.. Last years catalogs
> >> >>had a $3 price but had a $3 off coupon on them.  This year, it's $3
> >> >>but actually free unless they think you're never going to be seen
> >> >>again. You're supposed to give it to all regular and repeat customers.
> >>
> >> I walked into a RS last week. Picked up a mere eight dollars worth of
> >> stuff. Asked the salesman - whom I had never seen before in my life - if
> >> the new catalogs were in yet. He said that they were. We walked to the
> >> cash register, he reached down and pulled out a catalog from under the
> >> counter, said, "They're three bucks, but I'll take it off your bill."
> >>
> >> Unsolicited - I didn't ask a damned thing of him. He didn't know me -
> >> and he made the offer BEFORE he asked for my name/address for the
> >> computer.
> >>
> >> -Clint Bradford
>
> >Unfortunately, that is not universal.  I went in to buy a repeater
> >atlas, and asked for a catalog. I was charged full price for the
> >catalog.  As the saying goes, it's not the money-it's the principle of
> >the thing.  After all the money I've spent at Rat Shack over the last
> >25-odd years, I should not have to pay for a catalog-especially since I
> >use it to obtain stock numbers to help the salesmen out.  How about your
> >views?  send them to Radio Shack:
>
> >[e-mail]
>
> >Otherwise, expect a hard line approach to catalogs in the future by the
> >salespersons (NO Exceptions to the fee) and higher fees.
>
> >Thanks for everyone's help!
>
> >'73 de JIM N2ZZ
>
> BTW, have you been reading all the postings about the radio shack
> catalogues and people being charged for it. I got mine yesterday for
> free when I brought an adaptor plug for $1.99. I had a chance to ask
> the clone at the counter why some RS charge for the catalogue. He
> said that it was more than just a catalogue but a TECHNICAL Manual
> also. It contains valuable technical information that could not be
> picked up from  any other source. Well, I am still looking between the
> pages for this valuable technical information he was talking about.
>
> Good scanning to ya,


 I have always recieved the RS catalog for free any time that I have
asked for it at the local store here.
 A few days ago I went in just to look around and was given a new
catalog as I was leaving.


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From: [e-mail] (mystery)
Subject: Re: RS Catalog
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I got mine free cause the monthly "flyer" said bring in this flyer and
get a free catalog... so I did. :-)

[e-mail] (Clint Bradford) wrote:


>>>I guess I'm now an "insider" so here's my info.. Last years catalogs
>>>had a $3 price but had a $3 off coupon on them.  This year, it's $3
>>>but actually free unless they think you're never going to be seen
>>>again. You're supposed to give it to all regular and repeat customers.


>I walked into a RS last week. Picked up a mere eight dollars worth of
>stuff. Asked the salesman - whom I had never seen before in my life - if
>the new catalogs were in yet. He said that they were. We walked to the
>cash register, he reached down and pulled out a catalog from under the
>counter, said, "They're three bucks, but I'll take it off your bill."

>Unsolicited - I didn't ask a damned thing of him. He didn't know me -
>and he made the offer BEFORE he asked for my name/address for the
>computer.

>-Clint Bradford






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James F. Boehner, MD ([e-mail]) wrote:
: Clint Bradford wrote:
: >
: > >>I guess I'm now an "insider" so here's my info.. Last years catalogs
: > >>had a $3 price but had a $3 off coupon on them.  This year, it's $3
: > >>but actually free unless they think you're never going to be seen
: > >>again. You're supposed to give it to all regular and repeat customers.
: >
: > I walked into a RS last week. Picked up a mere eight dollars worth of
: > stuff. Asked the salesman - whom I had never seen before in my life - if
: > the new catalogs were in yet. He said that they were. We walked to the
: > cash register, he reached down and pulled out a catalog from under the
: > counter, said, "They're three bucks, but I'll take it off your bill."
: >
: > Unsolicited - I didn't ask a damned thing of him. He didn't know me -
: > and he made the offer BEFORE he asked for my name/address for the
: > computer.
: >
: > -Clint Bradford

: Unfortunately, that is not universal.  I went in to buy a repeater
: atlas, and asked for a catalog. I was charged full price for the
: catalog.  As the saying goes, it's not the money-it's the principle of
: the thing.  After all the money I've spent at Rat Shack over the last
: 25-odd years, I should not have to pay for a catalog-especially since I
: use it to obtain stock numbers to help the salesmen out.  How about your
: views?  send them to Radio Shack:

: [e-mail]

: Otherwise, expect a hard line approach to catalogs in the future by the
: salespersons (NO Exceptions to the fee) and higher fees.

I think it said 3 dollars of your <italics on> NEXT <italics off>
purchase.  So what you have to do is buy the catalog first and then turn
around and buy the other stuff.  Funny thing is that the salesman gave me
back the coupon sticker on the front, so I can use it again...  Weird.

We have a west coast publication called Micro Times, and they used to
have a free magazine rack on most main streets.  Then they found out that
the homeless people were grabbing them up for recycling, and they removed
most of the mag racks.  Now I have to stop onto the Fry's or other
computer or electronics store to pick up a copy.  For awhile the
earthlink ISP was distrib'ing their "AOL" type disks with the magazine,
so people were grabbing handfulls to get the disks.

: Thanks for everyone's help!

: '73 de JIM N2ZZ

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From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 16:56:17 1996
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From: [e-mail] (BDWong)
Subject: RS pro 2025 - info, mods, anything
Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364)

I have a Radio Shack Pro 2025 scanner.  I'm interested in any mods
available and the info to go with it, as well as any info at all regarding
this scanner.  Would like to be able to receive 800-900 mhz stuff.

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From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 16:56:18 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Don Payne)
Subject: Re: RS Pro-2036 Info Please
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[e-mail] (Bryson Leidich) wrote:
>On Mon, 26 Aug 1996 23:12:29 GMT, [e-mail] (Armadillo)
>wrote:
>
>>On 25 Aug 1996 03:48:33 GMT, [e-mail] (Peter M. Baran) wrote:
>>
>>>I am currently looking at possibly buying a PRO-2036 from the local
>>>"Shack". First of all, I guess these radios are made by Realistic for
>>>Canada & Australia only, & I haven't been able to find anything about
>>>them on the 'Net.
>>>The appealing option of this radio is the built in CTCSS board. The
>>>radio features 200 channels &  sells for $529 (Canadian $). I'm
>>
>>
>>Peter-
>>
>>The 2036 was also released in the US... It's a BC 890 that has been
>>modified slightly to take care of a couple of major problems. It's an
>>OK radio, but not a great one.
>>
>>The just released 2045 ($349 US) also has a CTCSS option and is a MUCH
>>better scanner. There is also the BC 9000 which may be available in
>>Canada for not much more money than the 2036......?
>>
>>Good luck.
>>
>>Ken
>
>Agree 0n 2045 purchase.  I just picked up a 2036 at a RS Tent sale on
>clearance, so I suspect they are being phased out.  I paid $149 for
>it.  I didn't need a primary scanner as I have a 2006 that I really
>like.  The newer model will meet your needs and probably prove to be a
>generally better piece.
>
>Best to you
>
>Bryson


A friend just bought a 2037. Suspect it is pretty much the same radio,
sells under catalog number 20-461. Works great except that I have
not been able to locate the mods for it. Anybody heard anything about
the 2037?

Kindest Regards,

Don in Indianapolis, IN


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 16:56:19 1996
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From: [e-mail] (N5OFF)
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Try pressing the reset button on the front panel (I think it is reset, but
I've since sold my 2006 and don't have one to look at).  Anyway, this
should get you back to the 30khz step sizes.

make sure you are in the proper freq range when pressing the button.

let me know if this works, as I am going from a foggy memory.

Tom


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Thanks to some astute folks here I have determined that I have a
problem with the 800 MHz band on my RS 2006.

Symptoms: as you know, in the 869 - 890 range, the correct spacing is
30 khz.  Also, should be NFM.  My problem is that when searching with
these parameters, I'm not picking anything up.  If I switch to 5 khz
spacing with NFM, I can pick things up; this takes a lot of time to
search and, besides, I'd like to fix whatever is broken.

I assume since this problem is in the "forbidden" cellular range, RS
is not going to be much help.  Can anyone here (Bill Cheek, are you
listening to this one?) steer me to a fix?

thanks guys,

jeff



From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 16:56:20 1996
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From: [e-mail] (HH357)
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Subject: Re: RS-2042 & Opto 456 board...
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In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail]
(Claude Alan Cartee) writes:

>
>I have some questions regarding the operation of the RS-2045 with the
>Optoeletronics board installed...
>
>1. How difficult was the installation?  Did it require any surface
>mount soldering?  Any soldering at all?  Did it reqiure any holes
>drilled into the unit?

Make sure you have a "brand new" nibbling tool.  The case in back is
steel.
      cheers


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 16:56:21 1996
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From: [e-mail] (HH357)
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In article <50ml3e$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Malex007)
writes:

>. Nibbling out the
>back (which is NOT steel but aluminum) takes most of the time.

I will re-iterate.  The back, of my 2035 anyway, is steel.

Unless of course YOU can somehow get magnets to stick to aluminum.

cheers


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 16:56:22 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Michael Alexander)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: RS-2042 & Opto 456 board...
Date: Sat, 07 Sep 1996 08:02:07 -0400
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In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail]
(Armadillo) wrote:

> On Thu, 05 Sep 1996 20:12:12 GMT, [e-mail] (Dan
> Morgan) wrote:
>
>
> >>Make sure you have a "brand new" nibbling tool.  The case in back is
> >>steel.
>
> That's good advice.
>
> >The only other problem is to find some decent software for the
> >package.
>
> Probe for DOS (which runs great under windows BTW) is my favorite...
> Tons of features, fast (100 channels per second on a fast computer)
> and runs on any old DOS machine... makes a dedicated computer for the
> radio an affordable proposition... and a great package (G).
>
>  Scanstar for Windows is also a good choice.
>
> Ken

Probe's developer claims a max of 80 cps. I haven't seen anything near
that (more like 40-45). I run it on a 386 machine and it is s-l-o-w when
you are entering freqs and hopping from one menu item to another.

--
Michael Alexander
[e-mail]


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From: [e-mail] (Armadillo)
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Subject: Re: RS-2042 & Opto 456 board...
Date: Mon, 09 Sep 1996 05:23:57 GMT
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On Sat, 07 Sep 1996 08:02:07 -0400, [e-mail] (Michael
Alexander) wrote:


>> Probe for DOS (which runs great under windows BTW) is my favorite...
>> Tons of features, fast (100 channels per second on a fast computer)
>> and runs on any old DOS machine... makes a dedicated computer for the
>> radio an affordable proposition... and a great package (G).
>>
>>  Scanstar for Windows is also a good choice.
>>
>> Ken
>
>Probe's developer claims a max of 80 cps. I haven't seen anything near
>that (more like 40-45). I run it on a 386 machine and it is s-l-o-w when
>you are entering freqs and hopping from one menu item to another.
>
>--

I said FAST computer, into which category the 386 does not alas
fall... What I did not say, and I apologize for, is that 100 cps is on
the OS535. I have had no trouble getting in the 60's and 70's on a
486/66 with the OS 456 and a 2006. I have run 100 plus on the OS535,
although my feeling was at those speeds I might be missing a few of
the weaker signals. So I backed it down to about 80.

You might wish to play with the Settling time adjustement and see if
you could get any faster, although on a 386, I'm not sure what to
expect as I have never run Probe on one.

I'm not sure why you are saying it is slow when entering frequencies
etc... I've not had any speed problems there at all, but again, I've
never run it on a 386. It does do OK on my 33MHz laptop though?

Sorry for the confusion.

Ken


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 16:56:26 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Malex007)
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Subject: Re: RS-2042 & Opto 456 board...
Date: 5 Sep 1996 09:37:50 -0400
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The install takes under two hours even if you go slowly. Nibbling out the
back (which is NOT steel but aluminum) takes most of the time.

You can use the interface unless it is hooked up to the PC. In other
words, your scanner operates as it would without the interface.

Not sure I understand your question about "controlling the CTCSS" but the
codes are displayed on screen (as are DTMF).

The interface does not auto program the scanner (which would be a great
feature).

Banks in the scanner are unchanged. However, all of the available software
gives you the option of setting up any number of banks in any way you
would like.


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From: Bob Schwerdtman <[e-mail]>
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Armadillo wrote:
>
> On Thu, 05 Sep 1996 20:12:12 GMT, [e-mail] (Dan
> Morgan) wrote:
>
> >>Make sure you have a "brand new" nibbling tool.  The case in back is
> >>steel.
>
> That's good advice.
>
> >The only other problem is to find some decent software for the
> >package.
>
> Probe for DOS (which runs great under windows BTW) is my favorite...
> Tons of features, fast (100 channels per second on a fast computer)
> and runs on any old DOS machine... makes a dedicated computer for the
> radio an affordable proposition... and a great package (G).
>
>  Scanstar for Windows is also a good choice.
>
> KenWhat setting do you use to get 100 channel scanning? I am runnig my 2035
on a Pentium and I am getting only 38-45 CPS (which is fine with me) I
have it set for 19.200 baud. What else can I do?


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On Thu, 05 Sep 1996 20:12:12 GMT, [e-mail] (Dan
Morgan) wrote:


>>Make sure you have a "brand new" nibbling tool.  The case in back is
>>steel.

That's good advice.

>The only other problem is to find some decent software for the
>package.

Probe for DOS (which runs great under windows BTW) is my favorite...
Tons of features, fast (100 channels per second on a fast computer)
and runs on any old DOS machine... makes a dedicated computer for the
radio an affordable proposition... and a great package (G).

 Scanstar for Windows is also a good choice.

Ken


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 16:56:31 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Jason Low)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Saskatchewan RCMP "10 Codes"
Date: 5 Sep 1996 07:54:41 -0600
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In article <50h8s7$[e-mail]>,
Peter M. Baran <[e-mail]> wrote:
>The RCMP here in Saskatchewan (Canada) have just recently changed to a
>Central dispatch system. If there are any other Sask. scanner buffs out
>there that may have the most recent list of their "10 Codes", I'd sure
>like to hear from you. I have an older list, but doesn't always match
>what I'm hearing now.

Odds are they're at least close to what I hear out here in Alberta. Try this:

10-1  poor reception
10-2  ok reception
10-4  affirmative
10-6  busy, occupied, etc
10-7  off-duty
10-8  on-duty
10-9  say again
10-10 negatve
10-11 traffic stop (used to be on-duty)
10-12 stand by
10-17 (used to be enroute)
10-18 (used to be urgent)
10-20 location
10-21 phone call
10-22 disregard
10-23 on-scene
10-27 operators license check
10-28 vehicle license check
10-29 CPIC/CNI check
10-30 cautionary code: suspect V (violent), F (firearms), S (suicidal),
                               A (alcohol), D (drugs)
10-33 ofcr down
10-34 time is __
10-36 on duty (used to be sexual assault) (?)
10-38 fatality
10-46 subject suspended, code F (firearms) D (driving) A (alcohol)
10-61 unknown unit, please identify
10-62 are you secure?
10-63 towtruck
10-64 ambulance
10-70 are you ok?
10-71 complaint
10-72 bank alarm
10-73 other alarm
10-74 alarm is false
10-75 meal break
10-76 on portable
10-77 at (ofcr's) residence
10-78 at detachment

Car numbers - the first digit is the zone of operation. Second 'digit'
(the letter) is the type of car. (A - rural patrol, B - municipal/town, C
- highway patrol, D - detectives/GIS, E - special unit, F - radio tech?,
G - freeway patrol, H - helicopter, Z - command/tactical unit), and then
the car number.  For example the car 2C5 is one of the highway patrol
units out of Cochrane, Alberta (but not the 5th one).. and 2A20 is
Cochrane's rural unit.

If the new central dispatch system you hear is anything like the one used
here, you'll hear a burst of data and then a 795 Hz tone, and then the
dispatcher will come up after a moment on a full-duplex open-repeater
transmission. This data and tone is called RTTing by the units and I can
guess it's meant as Request to Transmit.. all of the dispatches for the
southern half of the province are done from Red Deer, in the center of
Alberta, and in order to get to dispatch, the cars have to request the
repeater be enabled. Normally they sit on a regular, repeated frequency,
but in order to contact dispatch, it naturally has to be lengthened.
The burst of data identifies the car/portable/whatever. Vehicles can be
"programmed" to be anything the officer wants them to be. That's what the
10-61 code is for. Sometimes a repaired radio/car will come up 'blank'
and the dispatcher basically says so on the air ("10-61, Red Deer Control
40"). Then the officer and the dispatcher go through this little tango of
having to configure the radio on-air. :)

At least that's my take on it all.. :)


--
..J.   [e-mail]


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From: [e-mail] (Bob Whiston)
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Subject: Re: Scan-L
Date: Sat, 07 Sep 1996 12:34:12 GMT
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[e-mail] (Bill Cheek) wrote:

>But it ain't the ENTIRE scanning community, Clay.  It's just a few
>individuals and maybe a company or two that think hardball is their
>game.  It's downright weird how this cacophony of squeaking wheels can
>create such a ruckus and get away with it.

        [...Text Bobbited...]


>Something to think about.

        Well put!


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From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 16:56:33 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Michael Alexander)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: SCAN-L (Was Re: [Fwd: ])
Date: Sat, 07 Sep 1996 07:34:51 -0400
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In article <50pbov$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (D
Stark) wrote:

>
>         Check out these US Supreme Court cases regarding the
> First Amendment:
>
> Garrison v Louisiana, 379 U.S. 64 (1964) ">
> FCC v Pacifica Foundation, 438 U.S. 726 (1978)
 Fallwell v Flynt, 797 F.2d 1270 (CA4 1986)

We were not discussing whether USSN was a public or private figure and
what they must do to establish that they have been libeled or whether they
may be able to win additional punitive damages. That much is clear--they
are public figures and they would have to prove that someone acted with
"malice" and "reckless disregard of the truth" to win their case.

Someone said that the republisher of a libelous statement was equally
liable as the people who first made the statement. Someone else said,
that's dumb! I asked,  Why is that dumb? Looks like it is time for me to
dig out that mammouth  Law of Communications tome that I was forced to buy
in grad school (mass communications, not law) and see if I can learn what
I'm sure they tried to teach me the first go around.

--
Michael Alexander
[e-mail]


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From: Ben Hines <[e-mail]>
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In article <[e-mail]> Michael Alexander,
[e-mail] writes:
>I'm sorry, I don't understand what you are saying. If the newspaper
>printed a libelous statement both the reporter and the newspaper could be
>sued. That much is certain.

Yep, that's true. But that's because they have editors.

>Yes, Scan-L does redistribute what is sent to it. If it redistributed a
>libelous statement then the maintainer of that list could be sued as well
>as the person making the libelous statement. That's what was being
>threatened, I believe.

That was what was threatened, but the case law does not support it.
SCAN-L was NOT moderated. I could send a message to it and everyone would
get it, without the "maintainer's" intervention. That's why he can't be
sued. The case law supports this. Prodigy was found responsible for *all*
of the messages in their bulletin boards because they exercised some
modetorial (sp?)  control over them. Sorry, don't remember the exact
case. But if they hadn't exercised moderation, then they wouldn't have
been liable.


>Yes, some one is there to say completely what goes and what stays--lists
>are moderated (sometimes actively, sometimes not, but someone sets up the
>lists, controls its distribution and cleans out the spam and other b.s.).

Lists arent always moderated!

-Ben

--
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From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 16:56:35 1996
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From: [e-mail] (D Stark)
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Subject: Re: SCAN-L (Was Re: [Fwd: ])
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In article <50q9ae$[e-mail]>, Ben Hines <[e-mail]> wr
ote:

>That was what was threatened, but the case law does not support it.
>SCAN-L was NOT moderated. I could send a message to it and everyone would
>get it, without the "maintainer's" intervention. That's why he can't be
>sued. The case law supports this. Prodigy was found responsible for *all*
>of the messages in their bulletin boards because they exercised some
>modetorial (sp?)  control over them. Sorry, don't remember the exact
>case. But if they hadn't exercised moderation, then they wouldn't have
>been liable.

        When did that change?  I was bounced from SCAN-L by
Mr Laws himself because I flamed some idiot. If you take
responsibility for content ONE TIME, you've got it
permanently as far as the courts are concerned.

        (I still reject the stupidity of suing any of these
people on the grounds listed in the lawyer letter.)

73 de Dave, NF2G


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 16:56:36 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Rich Carlson)
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Date: Wed, 11 Sep 1996 01:51:31 -0500
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In article <51182f$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (D
Stark) wrote:

** In article <50q9ae$[e-mail]>, Ben Hines
<[e-mail]> wrote:
**
** >That was what was threatened, but the case law does not support it.
** >SCAN-L was NOT moderated. I could send a message to it and everyone would
** >get it, without the "maintainer's" intervention. That's why he can't be
** >sued. The case law supports this. Prodigy was found responsible for *all*
** >of the messages in their bulletin boards because they exercised some
** >modetorial (sp?)  control over them. Sorry, don't remember the exact
** >case. But if they hadn't exercised moderation, then they wouldn't have
** >been liable.
**
**         When did that change?  I was bounced from SCAN-L by
** Mr Laws himself because I flamed some idiot. If you take
** responsibility for content ONE TIME, you've got it
** permanently as far as the courts are concerned.

Not being a lawyer, I offer an OPINION here...

The difference may be on when the removal from the list occurred.  If there
was no prior restraint, then there is no moderation.  If the list owner
removes someone AFTER a specific post for that post, I don't think that
would hold as moderation.  SCAN-L is automated, and only resends what is
sent to it, regardless of content.  A moderated list would infer that the
individual post is approved and distributed, or disproved and rejected.

Just removing an individuals posting priveledges on a privatly maintained
mailing list such as SCAN-L would not define it as a moderated list, thus
exposing the moderator to liability for the content of the posts.

Should Mr. Laws take to approving/disproving posts prior to them being
resent, then he could expose himself to liability should that post be held
to be libel or slander.  I don't think he could be liable as SCAN-L is/was
set up.



**
**         (I still reject the stupidity of suing any of these
** people on the grounds listed in the lawyer letter.)
**
** 73 de Dave, NF2G

--
Rich Carlson, N9JIG ([e-mail])

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From: [e-mail] (Michael Alexander)
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Date: Fri, 06 Sep 1996 06:30:57 -0400
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In article <50n6eo$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] wrote:

> [e-mail] (Michael Alexander) wrote:
>
>
> >Why is it a gross over simplication? I believe that this is actually true.
> >If I, as a journalist, interview you and I write an article in which you
> >slander Bill Cheek, the paper and I could be sued for libel. If your
> >comments are reprinted in another publication, that publication could also
> >be sued for libel. This sort of thing happens all of the time.
>
> I am not a lawer so bear with me.  if you printed in the news paper
> slander it would be you printing it.  You have direct control over
> what is printed.  does not the Scan-l list simply redistribute what is
> sent to it.  no one is there to say completly what goes and what
> stays.

I'm sorry, I don't understand what you are saying. If the newspaper
printed a libelous statement both the reporter and the newspaper could be
sued. That much is certain.

What do you mean have direct control over what is printed? The newspaper
or the reporter?

Yes, Scan-L does redistribute what is sent to it. If it redistributed a
libelous statement then the maintainer of that list could be sued as well
as the person making the libelous statement. That's what was being
threatened, I believe.

Yes, some one is there to say completely what goes and what stays--lists
are moderated (sometimes actively, sometimes not, but someone sets up the
lists, controls its distribution and cleans out the spam and other b.s.).

--
Michael Alexander
[e-mail]


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 16:56:38 1996
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From: [e-mail] (D Stark)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: SCAN-L (Was Re: [Fwd: ])
Date: Fri, 06 Sep 96 14:21:55 GMT
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In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Michael
 Alexander) wrote:
>In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Clint
>Bradford) wrote:
>
>> >>"...A republisher of defamatory statements is equally liable with
>> >>the original party..."
>>
>> This gross over-simplification is patently ridiculous. The writer knows
>> nothing about the law.
>
>Why is it a gross over simplication? I believe that this is actually true.
>If I, as a journalist, interview you and I write an article in which you
>slander Bill Cheek, the paper and I could be sued for libel. If your
>comments are reprinted in another publication, that publication could also
>be sued for libel. This sort of thing happens all of the time.
>
>I'm not a lawyer, however and you would appear to know more about libel
>law than I do. What is it that the writer and I are missing in our limited
>understanding of libel law?

        Check out these US Supreme Court cases regarding the
First Amendment:

Garrison v Louisiana, 379 U.S. 64 (1964) "...even if he did
speak out of hatred, utterances honestly believed contribute
to the free interchange of ideas and the ascertainment of
truth."

FCC v Pacifica Foundation, 438 U.S. 726 (1978) "...if it is
the speakers opinion that gives offense, that consequence is
a reason for according it constitutional protection. For it
is a central tenet of the First Amendment that the
government must remain neutral in the marketplace of ideas."

        It could be argued that USSN's officers can be
considered as "public figures", since they have placed
themselves voluntarily in that position. If so, the
precedent in Fallwell v Flynt, 797 F.2d 1270 (CA4 1986)
might also apply to this case. In that case, the U.S. Court
of Appeals for the Fourth Circuit mentioned an "actual
malice" test for false statements to be actionable.

        There are other decisions that I cannot locate as
quickly holding that a publisher is not liable for false
statements unless they are aware that the statements are
false and/or act with reckless disregard for the truth.  To
even begin to argue that aspect, the plaintiff first has to
prove that the actual statements are false.  No publisher is
liable for distributing true statements as news, even if
USSN would rather the public not know what's going on.

73 de Dave, NF2G
not a lawyer, just a Criminal Justice major



From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 16:56:41 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Fred Lambert)
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Subject: Re: Scan-L listserv
Date: Sun, 08 Sep 1996 03:56:26 GMT
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Can anyone explain to me why my origonal posting was resent using my
name + the % and the numbers with the fidonet stuff on the bottom? I
did not send this. Is someone screwing around?  FredL.
___________________________________________________

Fred.Lambert%1:2619/211.9 (Fred Lambert%1:2619/211.9) wrote:

>To: Fred Lambert%1:2619/211.9%12:320/100.666
>From: [e-mail] (Fred Lambert)
>Subject: Re: Scan-L listserv
>Organization: Voicenet - Internet Access - [phone]

>David B Smith <[e-mail]> wrote:

>>Ive been out in the Internet for about 1 week now.
>>And I have heard that there is a Listserv called SCAN-L.
>>Is it possible that someone can give me the Email Address to
>>subscribe to that list

>>

>    Anyone who wants to subscribe to SCAN-L should do this..........

>   Send email to:    [e-mail]   then in the
>                                  body of the message type:
>                                 subscribe scan-l "your real name"


>                               just don't type in the quotation marks.



>                FredL.



> # Origin: Usenet:Voicenet - Internet Access - [phone] (1:2619/211.9)

> # Origin: Gateway ARNet <-> HamNet by HB9EBW (12:320/100.666)
>--
>|Fidonet:  Fred Lambert%1:2619/211.9 2:301/249.666
>|Internet: Fred.Lambert%1:2619/211.9
>|
>| Standard disclaimer: The views of this user are strictly his own.





From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 16:56:41 1996
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From: [e-mail] (JoeF27802)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Scanner Buff Arrested for ARSON
Date: 9 Sep 1996 03:14:15 -0400
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Some fire fighter friends of mine have told me about a guy in our area
that seems to show up at fires before the fire dept.. They say you can't
miss him because his van has so many antennas on it the aerodynamic drag
alone must reduce his fuel economy.  I told them that sometimes on my
scanner I have heard the police dispatcher report the fire call minutes
before the fire dispatcher has and this could explain how he gets there
before they do.


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 16:56:44 1996
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From: [e-mail](BAYCITVIDGRP)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Scanner Buff Arrested for ARSON
Date: 9 Sep 1996 20:49:22 GMT
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In <510g47$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (JoeF27802)
writes:
>
>Some fire fighter friends of mine have told me about a guy in our area
>that seems to show up at fires before the fire dept.. They say you
can't
>miss him because his van has so many antennas on it the aerodynamic
drag
>alone must reduce his fuel economy.  I told them that sometimes on my
>scanner I have heard the police dispatcher report the fire call
minutes
>before the fire dispatcher has and this could explain how he gets
there
>before they do.


      Going after the wrong excuses....this has very little to do
      with why he gets there faster. Some, but not much.

      How big a city or town is this spot?

      How many fire houses are in that town?

      The lower the number the more time it takes to get to a fire.
       Where does he live in relation to the fire?  OR is he mobile
       most of the time (of course, showing off his psychedelic auto)
       looking for thing to do?

      Don't forget, fire engines are also out on medical calls, water
      running from floor 3 down to floor one....auto fires, etc. the
      fact that he is fast is that he don't go to these other calls.

      How far spaced apart are the fire houses?

      Just because he gets there "before the fire dept" does is no
      cause for "arresting him" because of his ability to get there
      with more ease and timeliness....first learn to walk in his
      mocassins before you cast aspersions as to where his feet have
      been .

      People...think more.  It's a good exercise.

      bill conduit
      professional video news stringer (sometimes still).


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From: [e-mail] (Jeff Goldman)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Scanner Buff Arrested for ARSON
Date: 10 Sep 1996 02:08:00 GMT
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I would argue that the general public is by far more likely to get in the
way of emergency crews.  You can confirm this by taking an informal poll
at the next emergency scene YOU rush on over to in order to determine how
many people there at least own a scanner.

Maybe you are content to accept the fact that a few bad eggs are
representative of the rest of us.  Well I am not.

As for the irrelevent stuff, I guess I can overlook O.J. and Saddam.

rec.radio.scanner
[5] Scanner Buff Arrested for ARSON
[e-mail]


Jeff Goldman wrote:
>
> What about all of the emergency calls where scanner buffs did not
> interfere with emergency personnel or take part in some related
illegal
> activity?  Those incidents obviously go unknown and wouldn't be
> newsworthy to the general public anyway.

  Uh, yeah, if they don't happen, I guess you're right, they "obviously
go unknown..."  Hard to argue with that logic!  ;)


> I have seen several posts in this newsgroup along these same lines.  I
> think all involved should grow up and realize than scanner buffs are
no
> different from the public at large.


   There are a lot of SCARY looking individuals who are into the radio
hobby!  Going to the Dayton Hamvention or Monitoring Times Convention
can be like going to the zoo, in terms of sights, sounds (&
unfortunately, smells) -- so yes, IMHO there is a noticeable distinction
between a random set of people plucked out of general society, and a
random set pulled out of some RF monitoring hobby group!


   But the relevent difference in the basic 'ambulance-chasing' scenario
is that while the general public might be just as likely to get in the
way of the public-safety crews as the 'scanner buffs,' the scanner buffs
are the ones who at times will specifically head to an emergency-run due
to learning about it from monitoring, whereas the general public is
going to already be in the area on other business, or hear about it
after the fact via normal media outlets.


> There will always be some bad eggs.
> At least we are no where near as bad as politicians and lawyers
(usually
> one and the same) who are by far more crooked than the public at large.


  Poor excuse.  O.J. can say that at least he only murdered two people,
so he is "no where (sic) near as bad as Saddam Hussein, etc.


> Just witness how many of Clinton's cronies are in jail, under
indictment,
> or under suspicion.


  Please save the irrelevent stuff for the scanner forum on Compu$erve,
Jeff!  ;)



     Tim Tyler





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From: [e-mail](BAYCITVIDGRP)
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Subject: Re: Scanner Buff Arrested for ARSON
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In <512ii0$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Jeff
Goldman) writes:
>
>I would argue that the general public is by far more likely to get in
the
>way of emergency crews.  You can confirm this by taking an informal
poll
>at the next emergency scene YOU rush on over to in order to determine
how
>many people there at least own a scanner.
>
>     THIS argument does not follow....useless banter about nuttin
      factual....

      I've been doing breaking news for over seventeen years now and
      cannot connect the dots you claim are there in front of me.

      The only ones who really get in the way are NEWS CREWS from the
      t.v. stations or some neophyte camera handler who just got hired
      by a small weekely paper.  I've seen more "getting in their way"
      done by the media than I have by people who have scanners in
their hands behind police lines watching the even unfold.

      Media gets access and as such gets closer to subject...public
      has to stay furhter back and then see it on tv for what they
      missed.  Cops set up their perimeter lines and that's it.
      In most situations everyone stays behind the yellow lines,
      even the press.

       Again, i have really not seen any consternation caused by
       globs of ugly people with scanners in hand demanding to
       be able to get closer with dead bodies on the ground some
       100 feet further ahead.

       The only thing I can think of is "those who are with scanner
       park too close to the scene and get hassled for driving over
       a crime scene...."   The cops just don't allow people to get
       access which is not thought to be "right" in their eyes.

       Maybe people in the San Fran area who listen to scanners
       are a bit more good-looking and have the presence of mind
       not to tread where it's a bit "revealing"....maybe here it
       is a more "educated" looker.  More sophisticated.  Could be
        people with weak stomachs too.

          bill conduit
          the "etc" guy


>



From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 16:56:48 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Ron Katz)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Scanner Buff Arrested for ARSON
Date: Tue, 10 Sep 1996 05:50:03 GMT
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[e-mail] (Jeff Goldman) wrote:

>What about all of the emergency calls where scanner buffs did not
>interfere with emergency personnel or take part in some related illegal
>activity?  Those incidents obviously go unknown and wouldn't be
>newsworthy to the general public anyway.

I agree.  Thats why one person can cast a bad shadow on the rest of
us.

>
>I have seen several posts in this newsgroup along these same lines.  I
>think all involved should grow up and realize than scanner buffs are no
>different from the public at large.  There will always be some bad eggs.
>At least we are no where near as bad as politicians and lawyers (usually
>one and the same) who are by far more crooked than the public at large.
>Just witness how many of Clinton's cronies are in jail, under indictment,
>or under suspicion.






From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 16:56:49 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Ron Katz)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Scanner Buff Arrested for ARSON
Date: Tue, 10 Sep 1996 05:50:04 GMT
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It's not hard to show up before the fire department does. Depending on
their method of dispatching, the way the call is received  and you
already being one the road. Its only a matter of time until your
around the corner.

The fire department are not race car drivers. Not always is their
response time the greatest. Depends on the area.

[e-mail] (JoeF27802) wrote:

>Some fire fighter friends of mine have told me about a guy in our area
>that seems to show up at fires before the fire dept.. They say you can't
>miss him because his van has so many antennas on it the aerodynamic drag
>alone must reduce his fuel economy.  I told them that sometimes on my
>scanner I have heard the police dispatcher report the fire call minutes
>before the fire dispatcher has and this could explain how he gets there
>before they do.



From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 16:56:50 1996
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From: Tim Tyler <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: Scanner Buff Arrested for ARSON
Date: Mon, 09 Sep 1996 08:59:51 -0400
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Jeff Goldman wrote:
>
> What about all of the emergency calls where scanner buffs did not
> interfere with emergency personnel or take part in some related illegal
> activity?  Those incidents obviously go unknown and wouldn't be
> newsworthy to the general public anyway.

  Uh, yeah, if they don't happen, I guess you're right, they "obviously
go unknown..."  Hard to argue with that logic!  ;)


> I have seen several posts in this newsgroup along these same lines.  I
> think all involved should grow up and realize than scanner buffs are no
> different from the public at large.


   There are a lot of SCARY looking individuals who are into the radio
hobby!  Going to the Dayton Hamvention or Monitoring Times Convention
can be like going to the zoo, in terms of sights, sounds (&
unfortunately, smells) -- so yes, IMHO there is a noticeable distinction
between a random set of people plucked out of general society, and a
random set pulled out of some RF monitoring hobby group!


   But the relevent difference in the basic 'ambulance-chasing' scenario
is that while the general public might be just as likely to get in the
way of the public-safety crews as the 'scanner buffs,' the scanner buffs
are the ones who at times will specifically head to an emergency-run due
to learning about it from monitoring, whereas the general public is
going to already be in the area on other business, or hear about it
after the fact via normal media outlets.


> There will always be some bad eggs.
> At least we are no where near as bad as politicians and lawyers (usually
> one and the same) who are by far more crooked than the public at large.

  Poor excuse.  O.J. can say that at least he only murdered two people,
so he is "no where (sic) near as bad as Saddam Hussein, etc.


> Just witness how many of Clinton's cronies are in jail, under indictment,
> or under suspicion.


  Please save the irrelevent stuff for the scanner forum on Compu$erve,
Jeff!  ;)



     Tim Tyler



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From: [e-mail] (Jeff Goldman)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Scanner Buff Arrested for ARSON
Date: 11 Sep 1996 01:54:50 GMT
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You obviously have no life and plenty of time to perpetuate your
ignorance with many long winded posts.  I will let you continue on your
own with your fallacious arguement that the actions of a few idiots
represent the majority.  GOODBYE!



From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 16:56:52 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Bill Cheek)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Scanner FAQ
Date: Fri, 06 Sep 1996 09:09:56 GMT
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[e-mail] (Flatted5th) wrote:

>Damn you to hell, Cheeks! ................

Hey, FlatButt.....I was on my way to bed, still so flabbergasted over
your asinine sniveling that I just HAD to drop another quick note to
tide you over until morning.

Look, you freakin' parsnip, you may as well get it in your thick skull
(and help a few others get it in theirs, too) that I walk through this
ol' Life in my own dang moccasins; eat off my own dinner plate; sign
my own checks; and step to the beat of my own drummer.......and in
this virtual forum, I don't give a flying rutabega what the hell you
think is wrong with me and my ancestry and the horse I rose in on.

Furthermore, whenever your deity of choice passed out brains, you were
off playing with yourself until he came down to the last one and asked
if you wanted it, and you thought he said, "trains", and replied,
"Thanks, but no thanks, I'll catch the next one.......".

Look, doode, you're running along a few bricks short of a load and a
couple of digits shy of a full zip code.  If I was you (which,
thanking my deity, I ain't), I'd be doing the tennis-shoe express down
to my shrink about as fast as I could truck.  You whine and snivel to
that shrink about how you've been victimized, disadvantaged, and
molested and ask for a mint to help settle your stomach.

If you don't believe in shrinks, then go to your minister and beg his
mercy on your friggin soul for being so misguided and soiled.

I do gotta confide that you've been a monstrous good laugh around the
shop here tonight.  One of the boys thinks you sprang from the loins
of Tiny Tim.  Another thinks you're a syphiletic offspring from a mass
Siberian gang orgy.  One of the ladies thinks you come from the Island
of Lesbos......  Remind me in the morning to tell ya what the staff
chemist said about you.  It's too late to go into any more details
tonight.

Just had to lay some of this on ya before I boogeyed off to beddy-bye.

CYA pal.

Bill Cheek
Scannist Extraordinaire
(Didn't fall off the turnip truck yesterday)



From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 16:56:53 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Bill Cheek)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Scanner FAQ
Date: Sat, 07 Sep 1996 03:22:03 GMT
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[e-mail] (Flatted5th) wrote:

>Bill Cheek wrote:
>
>>Are you bad enough to do it?  Or...man enough?  (Psssst, >hey buddy,
>>it's been tried a time or three already.  You sure you want >in on the
>>act, too?)
>
>When it comes to defending a otherwise good group from the likes of your
>sorry ass, you bet I do.

Cool.  Let's see what you're made out of.  The Good Lord made some men
outa flesh & blood and others outa shit.  I don't believe we'll be
finding any meat on your sorry bones.

> All you want; to do Cheeks is expose yourself

You jealous or something?   :-)

>enough through constant posting to make everybody so sick of your shit

Would you like a puke bucket?

>that you can post whatever you; damm well want to

Yes, I can do that.  Just sticks in your craw, doesn't it?   :-)

> even if it is a ad......

What's an ad?  Show it.

> I aint buyin it

I ain't selling it to you.  Remember, I stuffed it down your gullet?

> and anybody with a lick of sense wont either.

Not if it's your brand of "sense", that's for sure.  (Whew!)

> You are the kind thats goin to screw up the net for everybody.

No.  I am the kind that's going to FIX it for everybody.  You're
running along 180-degrees out of phase, pal.  Yer arse is doing all
the talking, too, I see.  Figgers...............

> Go crawl back underneath your rock and stay there.   Koppish?

Last rock I had in hand, I bounced off some poor sap's skull for being
overly disrespectful and wanting to help himself to me wallet.

Capeche?

BTW..........Knock - knock.

Bill Cheek
Scannist Extraordinaire
(Flatbutt's nemesis)



From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 16:56:54 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Robert J Batina)
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Subject: Re: Scanner FAQ
Date: 7 Sep 1996 07:48:26 GMT
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Flatted5th ([e-mail]) wrote:
: Damn you to hell, Cheeks! As a longtime lurker in this ng, I have watched
: this whole th;ing develop. It started when you posted this dam ad for your
: service and here you go doin it againn. Give it a break wiil you. You are
: trying to take this thing over, thats clear. Stop your maneuvering and let
: go of this obsesion while you still have a ounce of credibility.

Ummm... whaat's the problem?  Nothing wrong with the FAQ that he posted.

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From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 16:56:55 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Flatted5th)
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Subject: Re: Scanner FAQ
Date: 5 Sep 1996 19:05:47 -0400
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Damn you to hell, Cheeks! As a longtime lurker in this ng, I have watched
this whole th;ing develop. It started when you posted this dam ad for your
service and here you go doin it againn. Give it a break wiil you. You are
trying to take this thing over, thats clear. Stop your maneuvering and let
go of this obsesion while you still have a ounce of credibility.


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 16:56:56 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Len Anderson)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: scanner for bug detector?
Date: Tue, 10 Sep 1996 04:58:00 GMT
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PA>From: [e-mail]
PA>Subject: scanner for bug detector??

PA>I have been told it is possible to use a scanner as a "bug detector".
PA>Does anyone know how this would be done? Thanks , [e-mail]

A bug that transmits an RF carrier can be picked up on any receiver
tuned near the bug's frequency.  Since you don't know the bug's
frequency, a scanning receiver has to tune through a LOT of channels.
A small spectrum anlyzer is better.

---
 * OLX 2.1 * A hangover is the wrath of grapes.


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I have been told it is possible to use a scanner as a "bug detector".
Does anyone know how this would be done? Thanks , [e-mail]



From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 16:56:57 1996
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From: "L. G. Shirley" <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: scanner for bug detector??
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A scanner would make an excellent bug detector. But what type of bug are
you looking for? Something Law Enforcement uses or is does it belong to an
individual? Give us a few clues.

Regards,
LGS



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From: Ketil Gunstead <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: Scanner Freqs for sale.
Date: Mon, 09 Sep 1996 00:48:22 +0000
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How about Norway freqs? Have some?


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 16:56:59 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Jason Lewis)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Scanner Stores in Toronto, Canada..
Date: Mon, 09 Sep 1996 23:42:01 GMT
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This is a follow up to a previous messge I posted askign if Radio
Shack scanners sold in Canada had Full 800Mhz..

I appreciate the responses recieved and now realize that I must look
for an independant retailer for scanners with full 800Mhz..

During my trip next month I will be traveling to Toronto, and I was
wondering if anyone knows of a good place to find scanners and
scanning equipment???

Also, if I pick up a scanner or two, is it better to go down to the
local UPS and ship it back home..  (Not sure of any border
regulations??)

Thanks...





                                                - Jason Lewis

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From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 16:57:01 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Rich Carlson)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Scanner Stores in Toronto, Canada..
Date: Wed, 11 Sep 1996 09:40:08 -0500
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I bought a Pro-43 at a Radio Shack in Mississauga a couple years ago, as
well as some video equipment the year before since the items were on sale
at the time.  When I came back to the states I was asked what I purchased
in Canada, and I told the customs officer, and he waved me through.  I
think you are allowed up to $250 duty free if you stay in Canada for 24 hrs
or more, check this first.

As for getting in a radio that does not meet FCC specs, I don't think there
is a problem as long as you intend it for your own use, and not resale, and
do not use it for illegal monitoring,  again you are on your own here...


In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail]
(Jason Lewis) wrote:

** This is a follow up to a previous messge I posted askign if Radio
** Shack scanners sold in Canada had Full 800Mhz..
**
** I appreciate the responses recieved and now realize that I must look
** for an independant retailer for scanners with full 800Mhz..
**
** During my trip next month I will be traveling to Toronto, and I was
** wondering if anyone knows of a good place to find scanners and
** scanning equipment???
**
** Also, if I pick up a scanner or two, is it better to go down to the
** local UPS and ship it back home..  (Not sure of any border
** regulations??)
**
** Thanks...
**
**
**
**
**
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From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 16:57:01 1996
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From: [e-mail] (awmunn)
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Subject: scanner w/FM discriminator out??
Date: 9 Sep 1996 20:45:16 GMT
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        I'm looking for a scanner with an FM discriminator output.  Can
someone tell me about these?  Are there radios with these outputs in
place from the factory?  or are they all aftermarket modifications?  Are
there different 'levels' of output from FM discriminators which one must
be aware of when interfacing them?

Thanks

Andrew


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Subject: Scanners and RC model aircraft
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Need a little bit of help here.  I fly RC aircraft which operate in the 72Mhz
band.  We have been experencing some problems on several of the FCC assigned
channels (I should note that we are secondary users in the band to everyone
else).  I am looking for a scanner that has included as part of the frequency
range, the 72 Mhz band.  As an added bonus, I am talking levels of -60 dBm and

lower so a frequency doubler will not work and the harmonics are not strong
enough to pick up with my BC200XLT.

Suggestions on new equipment, hand held?

Suggestions on older equipment that one might be able to find used?

Thanks in advance

Eric Helms
[e-mail]


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 16:57:03 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Susan)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner,,rec.radio.swap,,alt.radio.scanner
Subject: Scanners Forsale ***** 9/9/96
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I'm selling the following: ( Prices Lowered 9/9/96 )

AOR 2500     - was $400 obo -> now $375 obo
TRIDENT 4500 - was $400 obo -> now $375 obo

Or will trade for
AOR800 or PRO 2006 or PRO 43 or C508A or WS1000

Both are in excellent condition.
These are desktop/mobile units
Full Cellular, AM/FM/NFM/SSB

OTHER STUFF:

ICOM 2GXAT 2m extended RX - $200

2 RS TRC-207 40 ch handheld CBs - $85 for both.

Bearcat 560xlt 16 ch scanner - $60


E-mail any questions.

Richard Reider



From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 16:57:04 1996
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From: "Sonny J. Lewis" <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Scanning 800 mhz trunked systems
Date: 9 Sep 1996 21:22:09 GMT
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Here in Columbus, Ohio, some fellow was arrested for having Motorola radios
that were programmed to follow CPD.  He now sits in jail; the city claims
the only way he could have programmed the radios was to have stolen the
ID's that the officers log onto the system with (claim supported--he had 13
ID's, including the Chief's ID).  Since he will not talk about how he was
able to get the ID's, Motorola is investigating because they hadn't
anticipated anyone being able to do that.

In essence, I think that if anyone had a radio that could follow trunked
systems (at least in Columbus), you would most likely end up in jail.


Sonny


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 16:57:05 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Jon69er)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Scanning 800 mhz trunked systems
Date: 10 Sep 1996 01:13:40 -0400
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THERE IS NOTHING ILLEGAL WITH FOLLOWING A TRUNKED SYSTEM..  There is
nothing illegal about that at all.

THE PROBLEM IS THE FACT THAT IF YOU KEY-UP on the system, THEN You are an
unauthorized user on the system..  I don't believe anyone would be
arrested JUST FOR HAVING A RADIO ..

At least here in GA..  I have a radio with systems..  that I monitor..
Never had a problem.


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 16:57:06 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Lon Lentz)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Scanning 800 mhz trunked systems
Date: Wed, 11 Sep 1996 03:36:47 GMT
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"Sonny J. Lewis" <[e-mail]> wrote:

>ID's, including the Chief's ID).  Since he will not talk about how he was
>able to get the ID's, Motorola is investigating because they hadn't
>anticipated anyone being able to do that.

  These people are really stupid. If it gets transmitted in ANY way,
someone WILL intercept it. And he MAY eventually put it to some use.

  With a PC, a receiver, and an A/D converter anyone with a little
programming and digital info transmitting knowledge can do this.






From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 16:57:08 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Bill Cheek)
Newsgroups: alt.radio.scanner,rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Sick and tired of B.C? was Pro2035 Mods
Date: Thu, 05 Sep 1996 02:57:37 GMT
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"Patrick D. Lukens" <[e-mail]> wrote:

BC>>Yes, but WHAT do YOU WANT to do, is the more appropriate
BC>>question?
BC>>There are dozens of things that can be done to the
BC>>PRO-2035, but no "shopping list" exactly.

>In response, Jlkutugata wrote:
>> Alright...Just like the rest of you, I have decided to join the rebellion
>> against Cheek.
>>
>> B.C. will spend his time
>> answering it in his sarcastic manner!
>
>Uh, pardon me, but what sarcasm are you referring to?

That's what I wonder?  I can't believe this freakin' idiot
EXPECTS me or ANYONE to sit down and write him a litany of
the dozens of things that can be done to most any scanner.

It's rather presumptious and rude to ask for "all mods" to
such and such a scanner anyway.  Some of 'em take pages and
pages to describe and if the rascal ain't interested in some
of 'em whatever reason, then it's a waste of time and
bandwidth to snow in the first place.  Why can't he just
figure out what his scanner doesn't do that he wants it to
do and then ask.  Geezus Hortense Kriste!!!!   :-)

>All I see is Bill
>pointing out that there are several mods.  Have you checked out his web
>page?  Are you one of those people who is upset because he expects to
>make a profit off of his work?

THAT ain't even the issue.  True, I am not going to "give"
away copyrighted material, but I don't mind telling a feller
what to do if he asks specific questions that don't take me
all damn day to research and write.

>Yes, these flame wars are getting silly, but Cheek isn't the only
>problem.  People like you who read into what he says when he ISN'T
>contributing to the flame wars are just as bad.

Hah!  You should have seen the e-mail of COMPLAINT this
friggin imbecile wrote to my ISP!  This damn fool has my ISP
thinking about taking up sacking groceries down at the local
supermarket.  Here...you gotta see this snake's drivel:

=============================================================
-> From: [e-mail]
-> Date: Wed, 4 Sep 1996 14:21:23 -0400
-> To: [e-mail]
-> Subject: Bill Cheek

-> I would like to file a complaint against Bill Cheek for
-> wasting bandwith, cpu time, and regular users's time.
-> Enclosed is a plea that has been posted to
-> alt.radio.scanner.

-> Mr. Cheek does not understand when to back down and his
-> threads are too long to make newsgroup reading enjoyable.

-> Please understand that I am not shouting at you, just
-> informing you.  Words come off in different ways when
-> written instead of > being heard aloud.

-> Thank you,
-> Dave
=============================================================

You EVER see the likes of that crap in all your natural born
days?  What looney-tunes ward discharged this fruit loop?

>Now I guess it is time to unsubscribe...  This is just plain
>intolerable......

Looking more and more palatable every day.

Bill Cheek
Scannist Extraordinaire
(Voicing his own opinions)



From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 16:57:09 1996
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From: [e-mail] (PjB)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Sick old boy, needs to get a life.
Date: Mon, 09 Sep 1996 10:45:24 -0800
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In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Ron
Katz) wrote:

> The below information comes directly from your posts and unlike you
> Billy it does not lie.
>

My God!!  And I thought my 45-60 minutes per day on the net was a bit
excessive!  Cheeks, get some rest, 'ol man. You deserve it....<w>


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 16:57:11 1996
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From: "ROSS J. LANE" <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: alt.radio.scanner,rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Standard C 508 A - the REAL mini-scanner - Cell question.
Date: Fri, 06 Sep 1996 21:29:38 -0700
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Daniel M. Conti wrote:
>
> Having been so busy lately, along with playing with some radios that
> are new releases, I haven't been able to play with my Standard C 508
> A.  However, in light of the current WELZ min scanner, I decided to
> take the C 508 A out of mothballs, and I continue to marvel at how
> this is truly the MINI SCANNER of choice for me!  Not as much coverage
> as the WELZ, but PL capabilities, lockout, etc....with GREAT
> performance, and you can TX as well!
>
> Will be interesting to see how the pending AOR AR 16 compares.
>
> QUESTION :  I decided to do the cell mod for the C 508 A, and I can
> now search throgu the cell band freqs in 30 Khz increments...BUT, it
> seems to be totally deaf there...I'm using the ANLI antenna, and other
> areas of the 800 band are fine.  Any thoughts, experiences in this
> area?
> [e-mail]
> Compuserve - 71242,1774     Amateur Radio - N2TYB
> Ridgefield, New Jersey
Dan:
How hard was the mod to perform.  The C508A is the best kept scanner
secret there is.  Wish the scan rate was a little faster.


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From: Bill Crocker <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: alt.radio.scanner,rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Standard C 508 A - the REAL mini-scanner - Cell question.
Date: Sat, 07 Sep 1996 20:52:18 -0500
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ROSS J. LANE wrote:
>
> Daniel M. Conti wrote:
> >
> > Having been so busy lately, along with playing with some radios that
> > are new releases, I haven't been able to play with my Standard C 508
> > A.  However, in light of the current WELZ min scanner, I decided to
> > take the C 508 A out of mothballs, and I continue to marvel at how
> > this is truly the MINI SCANNER of choice for me!  Not as much coverage
> > as the WELZ, but PL capabilities, lockout, etc....with GREAT
> > performance, and you can TX as well!
> >
> > Will be interesting to see how the pending AOR AR 16 compares.
> >
> > QUESTION :  I decided to do the cell mod for the C 508 A, and I can
> > now search throgu the cell band freqs in 30 Khz increments...BUT, it
> > seems to be totally deaf there...I'm using the ANLI antenna, and other
> > areas of the 800 band are fine.  Any thoughts, experiences in this
> > area?
> > [e-mail]
> > Compuserve - 71242,1774     Amateur Radio - N2TYB
> > Ridgefield, New Jersey
> Dan:
> How hard was the mod to perform.  The C508A is the best kept scanner
> secret there is.  Wish the scan rate was a little faster.


The Cell mod no longer works in the late model C508A HT's.

Bill Crocker


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Having been so busy lately, along with playing with some radios that
are new releases, I haven't been able to play with my Standard C 508
A.  However, in light of the current WELZ min scanner, I decided to
take the C 508 A out of mothballs, and I continue to marvel at how
this is truly the MINI SCANNER of choice for me!  Not as much coverage
as the WELZ, but PL capabilities, lockout, etc....with GREAT
performance, and you can TX as well!

Will be interesting to see how the pending AOR AR 16 compares.

QUESTION :  I decided to do the cell mod for the C 508 A, and I can
now search throgu the cell band freqs in 30 Khz increments...BUT, it
seems to be totally deaf there...I'm using the ANLI antenna, and other
areas of the 800 band are fine.  Any thoughts, experiences in this
area?
[e-mail]
Compuserve - 71242,1774     Amateur Radio - N2TYB
Ridgefield, New Jersey



From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 16:57:16 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Shawn Harris)
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Subject: Stanton Calif. Sheriff
Date: Wed, 11 Sep 1996 03:46:41 GMT
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Does anyone know the frequency for the Stanton Calif Sheriff's
department?  I have a book which refers me to 460.4250, but it isn't
right.

Thank you...


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 16:57:17 1996
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From: "Glenn.Hansen".%1:2619/211.9 ("Glenn Hansen" %1:2619/211.9)
Date: 03 Sep 96 13:55:33
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Subject: Re: TECH QUESTION:  Realistic PRO-2006 performance seems weak....
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To: "Glenn Hansen" %1:2619/211.9%12:320/100.666
From: "Glenn Hansen" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: TECH QUESTION:  Realistic PRO-2006 performance seems weak....
Organization: AT&T WorldNet Services



Caress <[e-mail]> wrote.....
> I own a six year-old Realistic Pro-2006 scanner.  The diode has been
clipped
> to restore cellular (although of course I NEVER listen to cellular or
other
> private communications in violation of the ECPA).

Lucky for you or the Black Helos and the ECPA Special Forces Team could
be visiting you some evening.

> Recently the scanner seems somewhat less sensitive.  Is this atmospheric
or
> should I send the radio to the Service Center to be tuned and tweaked?
Are
> there components inside the radio which might have fatigued over the
course
> of six years (capacitors which may have started to go sour, etc.?)  I
have
> taken very good care of the scanner;  it has never been subjected to
either
> climatic or electrical (i.e. lightning) extremes.  Any ideas?

First thing I would check is the attenuation switch on the back. It has bit
many a person with the Pro-2xxx series. If that isn't it I would ask Bill
Cheek
for his thoughts.


Glenn

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From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 16:57:18 1996
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From: Tracy Justus <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Telephone blackbox plans
Date: Sat, 07 Sep 1996 23:11:58 -0700
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Bwahahaha!!!  For ONE thing, it's called a red box, not a black box and
for another thing, they don't work on most payphones and since all Bell
companies went to Electronic Switching Systems years ago you stand
a pretty fair chance of getting cought IF you find a payphone it works
on.  BTW, you can make a red box by simply recording the sound the
reciver makes when you drop a quarter in the slot.

Your User Name wrote:
>
> plans for telephone blackbox. neat little device gives you free l.d.call
> at payphones. Plans are $10. crystals are $5. whole unit built is $60.
>
> Caution for entertainment purposes only.

--
________________________________
[e-mail]
http://www.westworld.com/~justus


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 16:57:19 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Dave W.)
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Subject: Re: Telephone blackbox plans
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In article <[e-mail]>, Your Address (Your User Name) wrote:

>plans for telephone blackbox. neat little device gives you free l.d.call
>at payphones. <SNIP>
>whole unit built is $60.

Do you realize you could make 240 local calls with the same amount of
money?  You could make a few long distance calls with them too.  Plus,
with how cheap the prepaid calling cards are now, I think it would be
stupid to pay way too much for a box that won't work on most phones
anyway.

--
                                      -Dave


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I told you this was a test.



From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 16:57:21 1996
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From: [e-mail] (tyler)
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Subject: thanks for RS DISCONE INFO
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I'd like to thank the few people who gave useful info to me or anyone else who

wishes to improve the Rat Shack Discone.  Thank you.  Thanks Also to THE
GREAT, ALL MIGHTY, BILL CHEEK for starting another pissing contest on a
perfectly good thread.  Look, Mr. Cheek: The reason the info is here is
because it is free.  If you don't want to give it away here, put an add in the

newspaper.  I'd really appreciate it if you would let your stinkin comments
out of this newsgroup.  I thought I had 7 or 8 replies!  NO, it's just that
damn bullshit again from the same bunch of kids!  ...tyler



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From: Tracy Justus <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: The Elusive Ch.7 Howard Co., MD
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Try this. Program all your local law enforcment mutual aid frequencies
in a seperate bank. Next time you hear them switching to channel 7
start scanning that bank. You might also use another bank to put in
the frequencies of near by agencies (Sheriffs, other city police,
highway patrol, etc..).

Will Beachy wrote:
>
> I thought I had all Howard County, MD's frequencies and tonight I
> heard them refer to channel 7.  Channel 7!?!  I have 1-6 (I've had
> them for some time now) but I've never heard of a channel 7.  Maybe
> someone can help me out?

--
________________________________
[e-mail]
http://www.westworld.com/~justus


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 16:57:23 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Michael Alexander)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: The WWF presents, Cheek vs. Mackey
Date: Fri, 06 Sep 1996 06:44:31 -0400
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In article <[e-mail]>, Harry Stuver
<[e-mail]> wrote:

> RPColtra wrote:
> >
> > Hello, This is Vince McMahon coming at you live from Hazzard County.
> > Tonight we present the greatest match of all time, Captain Scanner Bill
> > Cheek Vs Mr.Manly Mackey.....
>
> I enjoyed your coverage of the latest match. I now delete all post with
> any refernce to Cheek without reading any of them. Your condensed version
> is more amusing and still keeps me up to date.
> I wish the Butt Cheek Heads would create thier own news group. I cringed
the day
> I seen Cheek showed up on rec.radio.scanner.
>
> 73's
> Harry Stuver kd6nhn
> [e-mail]

Ah, now we have rec.radio.scanner.flame_fest, a new newsgroup where we can
direct the combattants. Gotta wonder, someone sets up a forum just for
flamers in only a few days but the rest of us couldn't even get agreement
on setting up a moderated forum, which would have been far more useful.

--
Michael Alexander
[e-mail]


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 16:57:25 1996
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From: [e-mail](BAYCITVIDGRP)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: THIS BILL CHEEK THING
Date: 6 Sep 1996 00:02:06 GMT
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In <50n0hk$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (tyler) writes:
>
>I speak for myself when I say that I am tired of a bunch of kids
screwing
>around on this newsgroup.  PLEASE KNOCK IT OFF!!! I don't care who
started it.
> I don't care who hit who first, just leave it alone.  Everyone of you
are
>fouling up this newsgroup with garbage.  PLEASE DROP IT!!!  If I knew
who to
>complain to, I'd get you all kicked off this UNLESS you actually put
some real
>info here.  Please go away!  sincerely tyler  N3SPD
>

      Just wondering about your Whiner-post here.

      If you have a choice to "read" or "not to read" what is the
      question?

      make that "TO READ".....

      OK, you are pissed that the GARBAGE' you are forced to read
      is stinking your aura up and you are 'mad as hell and ain't
      going to take this sheeeeet any more'.

      You know who you don't like reading posts of...obvious it has
      something to do with the CHEEKS GUY....obvious to me, obvious
      to you.  And others.

      The answer:
        1.  Get hooked up to a service that you can pay for
            unlimited use ... this way you cannot claim that all
            these downloads are costing you money.   My server
            company costs me 19.95 per for unlimited net access.

            This would eliminate one of the current "I'm mad as
            hell's".....costs money to read about the Cheeks Guy
            when I don't want to pay for his wisdom and personable
            effusion in this group.

         2. Once hooked up to above...each time you see Cheeks Guy
             or the others who like to "tickle" the Cheeks Guy's
             fancies...you can choose not to stop and be a voyeur.

         3.  You can then put these addresses in your KILL FILE
              and eliminate all need to "prove how powerful your
              threats to get him or them banned" are not.

         4.  You hold the answer to your problem and it is within
             your reach to be free....to fly high and no one will
              wonder where you are....you see, no one cares that
              you are "mad as hell"....really.  Just you.

         To alleviate your angst it's best to just make the decision
         that will allow you absolute control over the posts you will
         or will not read or be offended by or be confused over...it
         will be understood in time that "you have power in your
         finger-tips"...that no one else can do for you.

        Once you do the above...we won't have to read what you write
        about how powerful-less you are on the anarchistic-ly oriented
        web.

         DO WHAT IS BEST FOR YOU....TAKE A STAND....BE FLEXIBLE....BE
         REAL...JUST do it yourself.

         Cut the cords that bind you to the Cheeks Guy and the loyal
         group of festerers who are attracted by this guy's LIGHT.

          bill conduit
          the "etc." guy


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 16:57:26 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Ron Katz)
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[e-mail] (Bill Cheek) wrote:

>[e-mail] (Sky King) wrote:
>
>
>>  Ron Katz:  I don't know what your bitch is with Bill Cheek, but the
>>fact that you feel it necessary to attack his family is to be pitied.
>

Correct, you don't know what my bitch is with Bill.  So why get
involved?

All this time Bill has attacked others but only now you decide to get
involved?  Well thanks for your help.  If Billy wants to pry into my
life by calling ISPs workplaces or contacting others to find
information to use against them or me then I will in return  also
attack his personal life.





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From: [e-mail] (Michael Alexander)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: THIS BILL CHEEK THING
Date: Fri, 06 Sep 1996 12:42:12 -0400
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In article <50nplu$[e-mail]>,
[e-mail](BAYCITVIDGRP) wrote:

>>
>          Cut the cords that bind you to the Cheeks Guy and the loyal
>          group of festerers who are attracted by this guy's LIGHT.
>
>           bill conduit
>           the "etc." guy

I cut all of your suggestions in the interest of saving time and space,
but your suggestions are all good ones and I applaud you for your rare
insight.

But what about those with a *compulsion* to read the damn posts? I mean, I
keep reading what Cheek, Mackey, Duff and everyone else has to say even
though they are seldom related to scanning. I can't help myself! It's  a
sickness, I freely admit. Not all the booze or drugs in the world can save
me from myself. I keep thinking, just maybe one time, one of these guys
will post something truely revolutionary and I'll miss it! Yes, I know
that is not going to happen (no revolutionary thoughts and no misses
because nothing ever gets thrown away in Cyberspace). I'm sick, I tell
you--sick, sick, sick!

--
Michael Alexander
[e-mail]


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 16:57:29 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Bill Cheek)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: THIS BILL CHEEK THING
Date: Sat, 07 Sep 1996 03:12:56 GMT
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[e-mail] (Michael Alexander) wrote:

>[e-mail](BAYCITVIDGRP) wrote:
>
>>          Cut the cords that bind you to the Cheeks Guy and the loyal
>>          group of festerers who are attracted by this guy's LIGHT.
>>
>I cut all of your suggestions in the interest of saving time and space,
>but your suggestions are all good ones and I applaud you for your rare
>insight.

The fellow does have a keen vision, doesn't he?  He's very sick, too,
though.

>But what about those with a *compulsion* to read the damn posts? I mean, I
>keep reading what Cheek, Mackey, Duff and everyone else has to say even
>though they are seldom related to scanning. I can't help myself! It's  a
>sickness, I freely admit. Not all the booze or drugs in the world can save
>me from myself. I keep thinking, just maybe one time, one of these guys
>will post something truely revolutionary and I'll miss it! Yes, I know
>that is not going to happen (no revolutionary thoughts and no misses
>because nothing ever gets thrown away in Cyberspace). I'm sick, I tell
>you--sick, sick, sick!

Yes, of course you are sick.  We're ALL sick to be monkeying around
here in virtuality.  Some are sicker than others, of course.  Depends.
Me, I can tear myself away once in a while, because I *know* no one
will post anything of great revolutionary importance to me.  Unless it
were way off topic and in some other subject of which I am not versed.
Fat chance of that.

Soooooo, in my sickness, I labor through the day and then this
anticipation begins to well up.  It's just an itch at first.  But then
it gnaws;  Finally it becomes a craving and I have to punch through my
server and rush into this volumnous hall to see who wants to have a go
at me next.  I just can't stand the anticipation, it's so keen and
sharp.

Now before you jump all over me for being sicker than you are, you
gotta remember that no one is going to post a revelation to me.  I
don't have things to look forward to like you do.  All I can hope for
is a worthy oponent; someone who can just threaten the shit out of me
and have me terrified of meeting 'im again.

Alas........sniff.........it ain't to happen.  This is a sleazy ol'
forum where everybody expects something fer free.  But my Paw used to
always tell me to put a price tag on things that people want.  So when
I levy a tax on those who want a piece of my butt, it scares off the
worthy opponents and only the stupid ones venture forth not knowing of
my tax collectmanship.

So, yeah, we're all sick.  Now 'scuse me while I go bait a hook and do
a little trolling for an unsuspecting nincompoop to make my day.  :-)

I'll see if I can find me something to post for your jollies in the
next day or two.  What sort of thing is most apt to trip your trigger?

Bill Cheek
Scannist Extraordinaire
(Just a fisherman at heart)



From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 16:57:30 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Bill Cheek)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: THIS BILL CHEEK THING
Date: Fri, 06 Sep 1996 08:07:11 GMT
Organization: COMMtronics Engineering/World Scanner Report
Lines: 57
Message-ID: <322fb2f5.20686798@192.188.72.23>
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Reply-To: [e-mail]
NNTP-Posting-Host: bcheek.cts.com

[e-mail] (tyler) wrote:

>I speak for myself when I say that I am tired of a bunch of kids screwing
>around on this newsgroup.  PLEASE KNOCK IT OFF!!! I don't care who started it
.

But it doesn't matter if you care or not.

> I don't care who hit who first, just leave it alone.

That doesn't matter, either.  All that matters is that YOU leave it
alone.  If you can.  If you can't, then that doesn't matter either.

> Everyone of you are fouling up this newsgroup with garbage.

Nothing is fouled up and no one is doing anything.  Why do you think
so?  Are you not capable of controling your computer?

>PLEASE DROP IT!!!

Drop what?

> If I knew who to complain to, I'd get you all kicked off this
> UNLESS you actually put some real info here.

There is lots of REAL info here.  Don't you know how to use your
computer to access it?  Perhaps you better complain to your mother.
She might kick us all off.  Or teach you how to kick us off.  You can
do it right from your keyboard....didn't you know that?

> Please go away!

Who?

> sincerely tyler  N3SPD

Does that mean you are an Amateur Radio Operator?  I thought Amateur
Radio Operators were fairly intelligent.  No?

To come off as being so victimized as you have done is either a
display of gross ignorance and sheer stupidity, or the lack of ability
to control your computer.  You act a lot like someone who lets their
dog bite 'em all the time and then whines about it.

You have to to take that computer of yours by the lugnuts and squeeze
down until it begs for mercy and then beat the snot out of it until it
agrees to not victimize you anymore.  All this is in your head, Mister
Tyler Amateur Radio Operator N3SPD....it doesn't exist in reality.
Just in the vast open spaces of your mind.......  You have been
victimized by a delusion created by an illusion.

Now take a deep breath; chant a few ommmmmm's; clapse a hold of your
computer, and teach it how to treat you decently.

Bill Cheek
Scannist Extraordinaire
(Lecturing from his own good book)



From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 16:57:31 1996
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From: [e-mail] (a)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: This is why this group should be moderated
Date: 10 Sep 1996 05:04:42 GMT
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In article <3234c224.83378858@192.188.72.23>,
   [e-mail] (Bill Cheek) wrote:
>[e-mail] (Flatted5th) wrote:
>
>>WHY ARE YOU DOING THIS?! THIS GROUP WAS *FINE* UNTIL YOU SHOWED UP!!
>>UNDERSTAND?? FINE!!  AND YOU ACT LIKE YOU DONT GET THE
>>CONNECTION.....YOU'RE A CREEP FOR DOING THIS AND I HOPE YOUR DAMM
>>'BUSINESS' GOES BUST AND YOU ALON WITH IT.
>>I WILL NEVER BUY ANOTHER THING WITH THE NAME BILL CHEEKS ON IT AND WILL
>>TELL EVERYONE WHO ASKS THAT YOU ARE AN ASSHOLE WITH A HEAD THE SIZE OF A
>>HOUSE.
>>YOUR TURN, WEE WILLIE (YOU CANT LET ONE GO BY...HA!)
>
>My, my, FlattHead, aren't we getting a little chapped?  Sounds like
>you're a bit constipated and can't go poo-poo, and got it all backed
>up into your esophagus.
>
>Poor, poor fellow.  THAT's some serious business.  Would you like me
>to look up a good proctologist for you?
>



This is absoulutely ridiculous.  What an utter waste of server space, and
everyone's time.  Go ahead with one of your stupid replies.  I won't
read it.  Grow up.  Be sure to make some stupid remark about me using
an annonymous email address.

This group needs to be moderated.  This is getting too stupid.


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 16:57:33 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Michael Fenech)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Toronto Storm Freqs
Date: 10 Sep 1996 02:38:59 GMT
Organization: iSTAR Internet Inc.
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Toronto Hydro moved to a 900 MHz trunked system quite a while ago.

Frequencies are:  936.6375 936.6500 936.6625 936.6750 936.6875

They are also using 413.6375 (I believe for underground comms).
--
Mike Fenech
Etobicoke, Ontario  CANADA
[e-mail]


On Mon, 9 Sep 1996 00:19:58 GMT, [e-mail] (Marg Eveleigh)
wrote:

>This Saturday Toronto received the remnants of Hurricane Fran.   Because
>the City of Toronto routinely plants Norway (soft) Maples above electric
>lines, many area of Toronto were temporarily without power as tree limbs
>gave in to gravity.  I could NOT find the frequency of the "Tree Crew"
>anywhere nor could I locate Toronto/Ontario Hydro anywhere (using Harteq
>freqs).
>Does anyone out there know these frequencies????  If so I would love to
>know where to find them or if not too onerous to type in what they are/
>Regards
>Margaret



From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 16:57:34 1996
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From: Tracy Justus <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Trunked and Conventional
Date: Fri, 06 Sep 1996 05:47:45 -0700
Organization: Pacific Bell Internet Services
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Don,

If your local police department is on a trunked system, then the best
way to monitor is to take the delay off of all the frequencies in the
trunked system. Some areas split their trunked systems into geographical
areas (For example Orange County, California). Orange County uses a
trunked system for fire, but they actually have three seperate trunked
systems (North, Metro and South) .. I might be wrong on the names since
I don't live in Orange County so this is all by memory.

You best bet is to seperate the trunked systems on your scanner so that
your only monitoring what you want to monitor (less confusion this way).

Since there are no local trunked systems in my area maybe I can refer
you to someone who should have more information listening to them.
Bill Cheeks is from San Diego and if I remember correctly most (if not
all of San Diego's government is on a trunked system). Just make sure
you ask precice questions from Bill, other wise you'll get 90% (Why
don't you be more specific and %10 answer).

Bottom line is, if you want to monitor a trunked system you need to
take all the delays off.

Oh, one other thing .. trunked systems use one of the freqs as a control
freq and that can change several times a day .. first thing to do is to
scan the entire trunked system until you hear a painfully auwful sound
similar to a computer carrier .. once you find that make sure you lock
it out, but remember that they can change the frequency of the control
channel so you will have to do this every time you turn your scanner on.

Take care and happy scanning!

BAYCITVIDGRP wrote:
>
> In <50o9g3$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Horny) writes:
> >
> >I recently began using my Bearcat BC200-XLT radio scanner, and I found
> that
> >Some police departments use a trunked system. What does this mean as
> compaired
> >to conventional and how does it affect my usage of the scanner. Thanks
> for the
> >help.


--
________________________________
[e-mail]
http://www.westworld.com/~justus


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 16:57:35 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Horny)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Trunked and Conventional
Date: 6 Sep 1996 04:32:03 GMT
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I recently began using my Bearcat BC200-XLT radio scanner, and I found that
Some police departments use a trunked system. What does this mean as compaired

to conventional and how does it affect my usage of the scanner. Thanks for the

help.
--
Donald Butterfield
Email-->[e-mail]
Butterscan Enterprises
P.O. Box 30103
Gahanna, OH  43230



From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 16:57:35 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Pedro Delgado)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Using soundboard as a voice activated recorder...
Date: Wed, 11 Sep 1996 17:17:10 GMT
Organization: You name it, We break it !
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  Hello - thanks for reading this msg.

  I'd like to know if there's any software, for Win95 or Dos, that could be us
ed
with a Sound Blaster 32pnp board to record a sound to a file, but only when
there is a sound present at it's input - for use just like a voice activated
recorder, but recording to a sound file instead of a tape...This is particular
ly
interesting, as one could later post process the recording, using filters, GSM
or MPEG compression for archiving, and so on.

  Please email your answers because my news server sometimes loses posts.

  Thanks in advance for your time,



                    Pedro Delgado /
                                 / [e-mail]
=============================================================================
                    PGP Public Key Available upon request
=============================================================================


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 16:57:36 1996
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From: "Jay.S..Schulman".%1:2619/211.9 ("Jay S. Schulman" %1:2619/211.9)
Date: 03 Sep 96 12:10:39
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: VTECH 910ADL Security?
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Organization: WoodyWare Software, Inc.
Lines: 38

To: "Jay S. Schulman" %1:2619/211.9%12:320/100.666
From: "Jay S. Schulman" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: VTECH 910ADL Security?
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana

Gary Stimpson wrote:
>
> Does the VTECH 910ADL cordless phone have voice scrambling so that a
> scanner user can't pick up conversations? (I've browsed through VTECH's
> web site and it has left me a little confused.)
They claim it is a secure phone with "65000 digital codes"...but in
reality, anyone with a 900Mhz scanner can pick up the signal. (it is not
spread spectrum).


Jay S. Schulman

---
"I'm not a cobb or corn, so you canstop butterin' me up.  I don't need
you
to tell me how good my coffee is.  I'm the one who buys it, I know how
f*ckin' good it is.  When Bonnie goes shoppin;, she buys sh*t.  I buy
the
gourmet expensive stuff 'cause when I drink it, I wanna taste it.  But
what's on my mind at this moment isn't the coffee in my kitchen, it's
the dead man in my garage."                             -Pulp Fiction

"I bent my Wookie."                                     -The Simpsons

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 # Origin: Gateway ARNet <-> HamNet by HB9EBW (12:320/100.666)
--
|Fidonet:  "Jay S. Schulman" %1:2619/211.9 2:301/249.666
|Internet: "Jay.S..Schulman".%1:2619/211.9
|
| Standard disclaimer: The views of this user are strictly his own.



From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 16:57:37 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Wayne)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner,wa.general,rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: WA State Patrol controlling your radios
Date: 10 Sep 1996 03:55:04 GMT
Organization: Connect.com.au P/L, Australia
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This newsgroup is for Western Australia, not WAshington state.  You
won't get much response from here.




In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Bruce Miller) says:
>
>The Washington State Patrol has proposed the adoption of a
>Washington Administrative Code regarding wireless communications
>systems used by motorists (not necessarly attached to vehicles).
>



From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 16:57:40 1996
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From: "Ed Mitchell (MS)" <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner,wa.general,rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: WA State Patrol controlling your radios
Date: 10 Sep 1996 17:35:03 GMT
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Wayne <[e-mail]> wrote in article
<[e-mail]>...
> This newsgroup is for Western Australia, not WAshington state.  You
> won't get much response from here.
>
> In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Bruce Miller) says:
> >
> >The Washington State Patrol has proposed the adoption of a
> >Washington Administrative Code regarding wireless communications
> >systems used by motorists (not necessarly attached to vehicles).

Actually, several of the groups are a world-wide forum (but we agree that
wa.general is probably not us!). Unfortunately there is no Washington (WA)
State specific online forum.  And worse the stupid newreader I'm using
doesn't appear to allow me to delete wa.general from this reply. Sorry
about that.

At least its posting on the global rec.radio.amateur.misc has been of value
because I live in WA state also and would not otherwise have known about
this issue. Now, let's not spend lots of time arguing amongst ourselves -
that rarely accomplishes anything - I've already written to the State
Patrol and my elected representatives on this. I'm also posting comments on
our internal company ham radio group forum where perhaps 200 more hams in
WA (the U.S. one) will hear about this poorly worded proposal.

Ed, KF7VY
work: [e-mail]
personal: [e-mail]
"The opinions expressed are my own and do not necessarily reflect those of
my employer."



From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 16:57:41 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Robert Moldenhauer)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner,wash.general,rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: WA State Patrol controlling your radios
Date: 11 Sep 1996 02:11:31 GMT
Organization: Sheltering Skies Publications
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Goodness gracious, a microsoft employee admits he knows nothing about
the internet!  An honest statement form Microsoft, isn't that one of
the signs of the Appocalypse?


In article <01bb9f3e$fa8db400$3e6d379d@edmitch>, [e-mail]
says...
>
>Wayne <[e-mail]> wrote in article
><[e-mail]>...
>> This newsgroup is for Western Australia, not WAshington state.  You
>> won't get much response from here.
>>
>> In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Bruce Miller)
says:
>> >
>> >The Washington State Patrol has proposed the adoption of a
>> >Washington Administrative Code regarding wireless communications
>> >systems used by motorists (not necessarly attached to vehicles).
>
>Actually, several of the groups are a world-wide forum (but we agree
that
>wa.general is probably not us!). Unfortunately there is no Washington
(WA)
>State specific online forum.  And worse the stupid newreader I'm
using
>doesn't appear to allow me to delete wa.general from this reply.
Sorry
>about that.
>
>At least its posting on the global rec.radio.amateur.misc has been of
value
>because I live in WA state also and would not otherwise have known
about
>this issue. Now, let's not spend lots of time arguing amongst
ourselves -
>that rarely accomplishes anything - I've already written to the State
>Patrol and my elected representatives on this. I'm also posting
comments on
>our internal company ham radio group forum where perhaps 200 more
hams in
>WA (the U.S. one) will hear about this poorly worded proposal.
>
>Ed, KF7VY
>work: [e-mail]
>personal: [e-mail]
>"The opinions expressed are my own and do not necessarily reflect
those of
>my employer."
>



From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 16:57:41 1996
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From: CrACKeD <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: alt.radio.scanner,|,rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Walkie talkie
Date: 6 Sep 1996 23:50:03 -0700
Organization: Primenet Services for the Internet
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John Ingram <[e-mail]> wrote:
: In article <50oe2d$[e-mail]>,
:     [e-mail] (Kirk Tarbox) wrote:
: >
: > Can anyone tell me the freq. of those walkie talkies that you see kids
: > running around with  that they bought at payless for 20.00
: > thanks
: >

: Most of them are on 49.860 AM mode.

I think you mean FM.

: The 5 channel models operate on the following frequencies in
: FM mode:

:    49.830
:    49.845
:    49.860
:    49.875
:    49.890

: John

I can agree with that.

- CrACKeD


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 16:57:42 1996
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From: [e-mail] (MEM&GWM)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Wanted: Frequencies for the Erickson Water Dropping Crane Helicopter
Date: Tue, 10 Sep 1996 00:27:35 GMT
Organization: Earthlink Network, Inc.
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Last week on Fire-L or Scan-L lists, someone posted an article giving
the frequencies for the Erickson Helicopters being used in Oregon??
I would be appreciative if anybody would repost them on this newsgroup
I deleted the list by accident. We have one of these Erickson
Helicopters based at the Van Nuys Airport in California. This
helicopter is being used to fight the brush fires in mountainous
areas. I am wondering if these same frequencies would work down here.

Thanx in advance, and good scanning makes good friends.



From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 16:57:43 1996
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From: Tom Leit <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Wanted: Trident TR-2400 Schematic
Date: Sun, 08 Sep 1996 14:20:51 -0500
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I am looking for a schematic or service manual for a Trident TR-2400
hand-held scanner.  The current problem is that it won't accept any
frequencies below 1000MHz (4 digits before the decimal point), and it
seems to not be tuning when I run the frequency up and down. Any ideas?
I would like to fix it.  I repair industrial electronics for a living.
A schematic would make it easier ...
If you have any info, please E-MAIL  to  mailto:[e-mail]
rather than respond here.   Thanks to all.   Tom Leit


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 16:57:44 1996
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From: Michael Love <[e-mail]>
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Roger Pribush <[e-mail]> wrote:
>Can anyone tell me if the Watson scanner antennas are good and where i
>can buy them?
>
>Thanks alot
>
>[e-mail]

I have one from EEB in VA.  It is the BEST scnner antenna I have used
yet!  As a matter of fact they have a base antenna I am considering as a
replacement for my discone and others I use.  IT IS THAT GOOD!  I bought
a CONDOR at the Grove convention a couple of years ago and it was money
wasted.

Michael



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"Jeffrey.Miller".%1:2619/211.9 ("Jeffrey Miller" %1:2619/211.9) wrote:

>To: "Jeffrey Miller" %1:2619/211.9%12:320/100.666
>From: "Jeffrey Miller" <[e-mail]>
>Subject: Re: Who makes the most "SECURE"  cordless phone?????
>Organization: Home User



>Gary Wilburn <[e-mail]> wrote in article <[e-mail]>...
>> Have an ATT 9100, 900 Mhz cordless phone.

>I would agree that the ATT 9100 is a good phone..  I tried to find the
>frequencies it
>uses with no luck at all (Searched 902-928).

> # Origin: Usenet:Home User (1:2619/211.9)

> # Origin: Gateway ARNet <-> HamNet by HB9EBW (12:320/100.666)
>--
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>|Internet: "Jeffrey.Miller".%1:2619/211.9
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>| Standard disclaimer: The views of this user are strictly his own.

i use a sony dct H2 ( the portable ) with dct B1 ( the base ) it is
numeric comunications on 840 MHz  ( you cant listen anything  it is
numeric ! )  this is legal in france but i dont know in others
countries
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Bill Cheek wrote:

      [snip]

> Rated sensitivity is 1-mV (nominal).

This must be a typo!

    [big snip]

>  Tuning Steps are user selectable from 1 kHz to 1 MHz, and
> a BFO is provided to enhance tuning of SSB or CW signals in
> +/-5 Hz increments.

Tuning steps of 1khz is ok for a vhf scanner but not for a serious HF
communications receiver. While not impossible to tune a strong
SSB/CW/FSK
signal it would be tedious. I'm not sure I would characterize a BFO as
an
enhancement for SSB / CW tuning but rather a requirement?

Given there is no data given for selectivity or image rejection in
Bill's
report, I would have conclude that what is being offered here is just
another
scanner except it uses a PC (not very portable) in place of a built in
microprocessor for control.

While Bill's review raves about "World Class" and gushes with
excitement. I would
like to see more real specs on WinRadio. Yes, I've seen Win Radio's web
page and it
has nothing more than Bill posted. How about some real facts not just a
lot of marketing hype. :-(

Peter, KD4CN


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I have one of these things and so far have received very little but
my VDU.  WinRadio comes with an antenna which is a length of co-ax
with the shield stripped at the far end.  I've tried putting in
a length of co-ax to move the antenna further from the VDU but with
no luck.
Something I thought of but have not yet tried is to use a VDU video
cable with a ferrite in case something is being radiated back from
the VDU.  I'm not very hopeful.
Incidentally, I have a Dell Dimension XPS(?) with a P133 CPU
(129.99 something MHz according to WinRadio).  This has three or
four slots for plug-ins.  I couldn't believe the layout which means
that any "long" cards extend over the CPU.  In fact, cards have to
be inserted such that they go through the heat-sink fins. Another
point is that I get more noise by inserting WinRadio in the one
slot which does not extend over the CPU.
My tuppence worth.
        John.


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From: [e-mail] (Bill Cheek)
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John EVANS <[e-mail]> wrote:

>I have one of these things and so far have received very little but
>my VDU.  WinRadio comes with an antenna which is a length of co-ax
>with the shield stripped at the far end.  I've tried putting in
>a length of co-ax to move the antenna further from the VDU but with
>no luck.

Yeah, that supplied antenna is kind of sick.  I didn't even mention it
in my review.  It's just for the neophyte who has nothing else to use
for the moment.

Your best bet is to make a couple of antennas, one for 500 kHz- 30 MHz
and the other for 30 MHz - 1300 MHz and then manually switch them as
needed.  So much the better if you can use Belden 9913, 8214, or even
RG-6 coax so as to get the antennas outside and up on the roof.

>Something I thought of but have not yet tried is to use a VDU video
>cable with a ferrite in case something is being radiated back from
>the VDU.  I'm not very hopeful.

VDU's are notorious for emissions, and a ferrite choke on the  video
cable can reduce some of those emission.  A good bet would be to
borrow another monitor and see if that changes the noise level at all.
Chances are it will.

>Incidentally, I have a Dell Dimension XPS(?) with a P133 CPU
>(129.99 something MHz according to WinRadio).  This has three or
>four slots for plug-ins.  I couldn't believe the layout which means
>that any "long" cards extend over the CPU.

I suspected as much, but didn't encounter the problem myself.

> In fact, cards have to be inserted such that they go through the heat-sink f
ins.

That's ingenious!  Nice flourish there!  Creative!

>Another point is that I get more noise by inserting WinRadio in the one
>slot which does not extend over the CPU. My tuppence worth.    John.

That's another good point....to experiment with different slots.

Odd, but I have very little noise here and there are five computers in
the shop and several more throughout the premises, many with the
covers off, too.

Rgds,

Bill

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Peter Trapp <[e-mail]> wrote:

> Given there is no data given for selectivity or image rejection
> in Bill's report, I would have conclude that what is being offered
> here is just another scanner except it uses a PC (not very portable)
> in place of a built in microprocessor for control.
>
> While Bill's review raves about "World Class" and gushes with
> excitement. I would like to see more real specs on WinRadio.
> Yes, I've seen Win Radio's web page and it has nothing more than
> Bill posted. How about some real facts not just a
> lot of marketing hype. :-(
>
>Peter, KD4CN

Well, Mister Peter Amateur Radio Operator KD4CN Trapp, I just posted
some facts for you under the WinRadio Review and WinRadio Technical
Specifications threads.   Now let us cover one more little piece of
turf, if we may.   My turn now.  :-)

Your language, demeanor, and confrontational style is abominable to
me, and you may as well learn either the easy way or the hard way,
that I am not about to stand for it.  Here's the deal, and you will do
well to drop into the lotus position, finger the gunk in your navel,
and consider this:

This forum is *not* a magazine for which you pay for the privilege of
lambasting me (or other people) with twisted and incomplete or
untruthful adjectives in a pseudo-intellectual style, and to which I
would be required to blandly smile and plant a big ol' smoocharoo on
your chops with an apologetic attitude for breathing the same air as
you.

This forum is a virtual arena that's wide open to everyone.  I am not
getting paid to be here and to let you unload your day's trials and
tribulations all over me.  I am here, exactly like you are, as a
hobbyist and a participant.  You and I are equal in every sense of the
word and to every stretch of the imagination.  You are no more
entitled or privileged to dump on me than I am on you.

Therefore, and you may as well get this down, Mister Peter Amateur
Radio Operator KD4CN Trapp, if you choose to unload on me here....any
implied or overt contracts betweeen us are thus broken, and I probably
*will* unload on you in return, my option of course.  In the
vernacular, you may dish out ONLY to the proportions that you are
willing to receive, and not a slivver more.  You can learn more about
that in Transactional Analysis 101, if you like.

The ONLY thing you get from me, whether or not you give anything in
return, is my conscientious commitment to not flame, attack, or
otherwise shoot first.  That is, I will not *start* a problem with
you.  If I do, it would be an act of gross ignorance for which I am
likely to apologize and beg your indulgence.  However, simply stated,
I do NOT start trouble.  That is my gift to you and to the forum.

If you do wish to be aggressive, that's your business; and your
problem, should I exercise my option to shoot back.  And my friend, a
hundred dollar bill says I can choose more potent adjectives and weld
them together into a much more formidable projectile than you can.
But suit yourself.  That's the beauty of an anarchy.  You are FREE to
suit yourself.  Just understand that I am not a shrinking violet and
there is nothing that can intimidate me.  Mackey, Moss, Duff, and
company tried....and those gals are goooood!  A lot better than you.
:-)

There are a thousand ways you could have asked for more information
and/or for me to clarify something off-camber or confusing that I
might have said, without even so much as my raising an eyebrow.  You
picked the snippety, snooty, snotty, persnickety, anal-retentive
magazine respondent's style, though, which I guarantee *won't* work in
this honorable forum.  Sorry, but you have to PAY for that one.

Give it some deep thought, if I haven't chapped your Amateur Radio
Operator hide.  And if I have.....well, think about it anyway; you had
it coming.

Bill Cheek
Scannist Extraordinaire
(Student)



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Peter Trapp <[e-mail]> wrote:

>Given there is no data given for selectivity or image rejection in
>Bill's report, I would have conclude that what is being offered here
>is just another scanner except it uses a PC (not very portable) in
>place of a built in microprocessor for control.

You had only to ask.  I did not possess specs at the time, and rather
than wait, I posted Part 1.  Please see a new thread titled, WINRADIO
TECHNICAL SPECIFICATIONS.

>While Bill's review raves about "World Class" and gushes with
>excitement. I would like to see more real specs on WinRadio.

Well, you got 'em.

> Yes, I've seen Win Radio's web page and it has nothing more
> than Bill posted. How about some real facts not just a
> lot of marketing hype. :-(

And you didn't get "a lot of marketing hype".  You got almost none.
But what little you did get was based on some fairly concrete factors
now pasted across your monitor screen as follows:

* the  miniaturization of a wide-band scanner *and* a shortwave
  receiver on a single-slot standard PC card - a world-first, to the
  best of my knowledge.  And "firsts" are entitled to a little horn-
  blowing and hoopla, whether you like it or not.

* WinRadio succeeds in defeating PC generated noise, and made it
  possible, to put a wide-band receiver inside a PC - another first!

* a unique user interface that is powerful, intuitive and simple to
  use, designed for Windows users.  Not a first, but still all class.

* the overall package is attractive and immediately useable by
  newcomers as well as pro's;

* with its universal appeal (and yes, some of it *is* thanks to that
  "marketing hype"), WinRadio attempts to bring the entire spectrum of
  hobby radio down to the PC-user masses, a perhaps rather Quixotic
  attempt, nevertheless one that aims at enlarging the number of radio
  amateurs - at the time when their numbers are diminishing and when
  radio is decidedly going out of fashion;

Howzzat?

Bill Cheek
Scannist Extraordinaire
(Hobbyist)




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     WiNRADiO Technical Specifications
===================================================

Frequency range; AM-SSB-FM-N:     0.5 MHz to 1.3 GHz
                        FM-W:    30.0 MHz to 1.3 GHz

Tuning step size, main tuning:      0.5 kHz to 1 MHz
                          BFO:                 5 Hz

Modes:                             AM-SSB/CW-FMN-FMW

Sensitivity          AM     SSB/CW    FM-N      FM-W
  0.5 -  1.5 MHz    5  uV   2.5uV     1 uV        -
  1.5 - 30   MHz    1.5uV   1  uV     0.35uV      -
 30   - 1000 MHz    1.5uV   1  uV     0.35uV    2uV
  1   -  1.3 GHz    5  uV   2.5uV     1 uV      3uV

Image/spurious  rejection:    5 -  513 MHz:     65dB
                            798 - 1300 MHz:     30dB

Dynamic range:                                  65dB

Signal meter linearity:                      +/- 5dB

Selectivity:               AM/SSB:       6kHz @ -6dB
                             FM-N:      17kHz @ -6dB
                             FM-W:     280kHz @ -6dB

Scanning speed:       AM:         10 channels/second
                      FM:         20 channels/second

Intermediate frequencies:     IF1             IF2
   0.5 -  299.999 MHz:    556.325 MHz     58.075 MHz
   300 -  512.999 MHz:    249.125 MHz     58.075 MHz
   513 -  797.999 MHz:     58.075 MHz        -
   798 - 1105.999 MHz:    249.125 MHz     58.075 MHz
  1106 - 1300     MHz:    556.325 MHz     58.075 MHz

                                              IF3
           AM-SSB-FMN:                      455   kHz
                  FMW:                       10.7 MHz

Frequency stability:        10 ppm  0 to 60 degrees C
Antenna connector:                         50 ohm BNC
Audio output:                    0.2W into 8 ohm load

Specifications subject to change without notice.



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From: SWW <[e-mail]>
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Subject: WS-1000 Worlds Smallest & Best Scanner FOR SALE!
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WS-1000 recieves everything, from cell to am, to tv,  smaller and much
much better reception than an r-1, first $400 gets it.


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 16:57:55 1996
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From: [e-mail] (HVFD819)
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Subject: wtb MR-8100UNIDEN
Date: 8 Sep 1996 22:12:32 -0400
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I AM LOOKING FOR A MR-8100 THAT IS FOR SALE
MY SCEEN NAME IS  AOL@SHP421
alt


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 16:57:56 1996
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From: [e-mail] (John Kolb)
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Subject: WTD: Manual Regency M100
Date: 8 Sep 1996 19:48:46 GMT
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Recently picked up a Regency Touch M100 as part of
a group of test equipment, and would like to get a manual
so I can see if the unit is working.

Usual copy and mailing costs gladly paid, or perhaps trade
a manual copy from my collection of HF receiver manuals.

John   [e-mail]




From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 16:57:57 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Michael Jameson)
Subject: WTT: speakers for scanner
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To anyone in the LOCAL Akron area (Cleveland, Canton) I have
a pair of Whafedale Diamond III bookshelf speakers that I would
like to trade for an 800 MHz handheld scanner. Prefer a Pro 39,
Uniden Sportcat or Uniden BC700A but will certainly consider other
800 meg models in good condition.

The Wharfedales are very compact, bookshelf speakers (about 9 by 8 by 7)
and are ideal for small rooms or as surrounds in large rooms. They handle
100 watts and have 4 in. woofers. Removeable grills and drivers make
mods a snap, though I haven't done any myself. This model can still be
found in certain circles but Wharfedale dealers are kinda scarce.
These speakers look like new and orig. sold for $300. My price is $120
for the pair or LOCAL trade for the right scanner.

Thanks for reading.
Mike

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From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 16:57:58 1996
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From: [e-mail] (John Swarbrick)
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Subject: Yes - another funny dispatch!
Date: Mon, 2 Sep 1996 20:09:44 +0000
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  Monitoring police channels in an English town brought out this gem:


  It was chucking out time for the pubs, and there was a large fight
brewing in a rough area.  Police were dispatched, and as suspects were
chased, backup was drafted in.  A WPC and the dispatcher had this to
say:

Dispatcher:  489, could you describe your suspect...?

WPC: <Panting heavily while running> He's big, Irish and is waving an
axe!



John Swarbrick
E-Mail: [e-mail]
WWW:    http://www.innotts.co.uk/~johns
IRC:    X-Phile on undernet, ch. #teenfun


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 16:57:59 1996
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From: [e-mail]
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Subject: Re: Yes - another funny dispatch!
Date: 7 Sep 1996 02:36:06 GMT
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[e-mail] (John Swarbrick) wrote:
>  Monitoring police channels in an English town brought out this gem:
>
>
>  It was chucking out time for the pubs, and there was a large fight
>brewing in a rough area.  Police were dispatched, and as suspects were
>chased, backup was drafted in.  A WPC and the dispatcher had this to
>say:
>
>Dispatcher:  489, could you describe your suspect...?
>
>WPC: <Panting heavily while running> He's big, Irish and is waving an
>axe!
>
Friend of mine worked center zone in Kansas City MO for years, told me of
a dispatch that went like this:  "112, investigate an armed disturbance at
such-and-such address...subject armed with a garden hose..." The
dispatcher went silent, but didn't unkey.  My friend then said to
himself, "Did you say a garden hose???"  The dispatcher then commenced
talking again and continued with "...that's right. I said a garden hose."

He also said that they used to get sent to handle drunks at the bus
station, and they always stunk and barfed in the police cars, so no one
would say they were in service when dispatch would announce they had one
there.  One dispatcher voiced something to the effect of "Any car to work
a non injury accident involving a bus load of college cheerleaders at the
bus station...?"  Of course, someone volunteered and she sent them.  A few
minutes later she advisee that the bus left without making a report, but
there is a drunk there that he can handle.  BUSTED!!!

True or not??? I don't know, but they are good stories.



From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 16:58:00 1996
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From: "Ken Bessler (KG0WX)" <[e-mail]>
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From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 16:58:01 1996
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From: Nick Gibbs <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: Yupiteru MVT-7100
Date: Tue, 10 Sep 1996 20:40:09 +1030
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[e-mail] wrote:
>
> i have the MVT 7100 and it is a very good scanner , there is only 2
> problems :
>
> -- transmodulation with 88-108 wfm band
> -- qrm with my computer ( if you have the solution for it show me ! )

Turn off your computer. :-)

> i listen somes stations with the MVT 7100 and not with a realistic pro
> 2024 !

It is quite sensitive, better than my PRO2004. Pity the battery life is
so short though...

Nick.


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 17:17:04 1996
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From: colteng <[e-mail]>
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To: FS,ICOM,R71/A

FOR SALE ICOM R71/A mint shape 100 khz to 30 Mhz range
exallant reciever

$ 400 U.S. or 500 Cdn.

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From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 17:17:05 1996
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400 US. OR 500 CDN.

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From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 17:17:06 1996
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From: Michael Love <[e-mail]>
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To: Anyone,have,Scanstar,or,Scancat,Hurricane,WEFAX,frq's?

Please mail me if you do.

Michael



From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 17:17:07 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Alec Lemas)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
Subject: Re: *** ALL  ATTENTION  STORM/TORNADO  FANS ***
Date: Wed, 11 Sep 96 00:57:03 GMT
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In article <[e-mail]>, storming@indi
rect.com (WSNP) wrote:
>"Storm Chaser" by Warren Faidley.
>
>The critically acclaimed book is now in it's second printing!!!!
>
>Stunning book includes 100 breathtaking, graphic severe weather
>photographs of tornadoes, lightning, hurricanes, supercell storms and
>hail. Also features adventure stories, easy to understand explanation of
>severe weather mechanics, graphics and extensive glossary. Published by
>The Weather Channel.
>
>Complete data and sample photos at:
>
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>(A free catalog of weather videos, poster, etc. is also
>available at this number.)
>
>Enjoy!

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From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 17:17:08 1996
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From: Jan.Nieuwenhuis.%1:2619/211.9 (Jan Nieuwenhuis %1:2619/211.9)
Date: 02 Sep 96 05:42:53
Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
Subject: 02:German to EUROPE
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To: Jan Nieuwenhuis %1:2619/211.9%12:320/100.666
From: Jan Nieuwenhuis <[e-mail]>
Organization: Netherlands Institute for Sea Research
Subject: German to EUROPE

CHINA (P.R.)     China Radio Int.  2000-2030    3985(SUI)                   [
]
FINLAND          R.Finland         2000-2030(F) (558,963),9855,15440        [
]
YUGOSLAVIA       R.Yugoslavia      2000-2030(g) 6100                        [
]
SLOVAKIA         AWR-Rim.Sobota    2000-2100    6055                        [
]
KOREA (Rep.)     R.Korea Int.      2000-2100    6145(S),7550                [
]
UKRAINE          R.Ukraine Int.    2000-2100(D) (936),5905,6010,6020,6080,  [
]
.                .                 .            6130,9560                   [
]
GERMANY          Deutsche Welle    2000-2200    3995,6075,9545              [
]
USA              WSHB              2005-2057(d) 13770                       [#
]
GREECE           V.of Greece       2020-2030    9420                        [
]
USA              WSHB              2029-2057(a) 13770                       [#
]
AZERBAIJAN       R.Dada Gorgu      2030-2100    4960,5880,6010              [
]
MALTA            V.of Malta        2030-2100(a) 9765,12060 (test)           [#
]
ECUADOR          HCJB              2100-2130    15550,21455U                [
]
AUSTRIA          R.Austria Int.    2100-2130    5945,6155                   [
]
KOREA (D.P.R.)   R.Pyongyang       2100-2150    9325,13785                  [
]
CHINA (R.TAIWAN) V.of Free China   2100-2200    9610,15600,17750            [
]
AUSTRIA          R.Austria Int.    2200-2230    5945,6155                   [
]
ARGENTINA        RAE               2200-2300(b) 15345 (also to Africa)      [
]
GERMANY          Deutsche Welle    2200-2400    3995,6075                   [
]
UKRAINE          R.Ukraine Int.    2300-0000(F) (936),5905,5915,6010,6020,  [
]
.                .                 .            6080,9560,9875              [
]
KIRGHIZIA        R.Bishek          2300-2315    4010                        [
]
IRAQ             R.Iraq Int.       2335-2340?   11810,13680,15210           [
]

 (*) REMARKS:
 (C) = Also to America
 (D) = Also to Africa & America
 (F) = Also to Africa
 (a) = Sunday only
 (b) = Monday-Friday
 (c) = Saturday & Sunday
 (d) = Saturday only
 (g) = Except Sunday
 (o) = Monday only
 (p) = Tuesday only
 (q) = Wednesday only
 (r) = Thursday only
 (u) = Wednesday & Saturday

WITH THANKS TO FOLLOWING SOURCES (in alphabetic order):
 - Alexander Ageenkov, Russia
 - Amitie Radio, France
 - Andreas Nitschke, Germany
 - Arjen Huisman, Holland
 - BBC Monitoring, United Kingdom
 - Bob Padula, Australia
 - DX-Telegramm, Austria
 - Ed Evans, USA
 - Jan Nieuwenhuis, Holland
 - Kurier, Germany
 - Marc Vissers, Belgium
 - Martijn Reneman, Holland
 - Media Roundup, Japan
 - Peter Klein, Germany
 - Radio World, Belgium
 - Richard McVicar, Ecuador
 - Siebel Verlag, Germany
 - Ulrich Bottler, Germany

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From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 17:17:09 1996
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From: John.Berenyi.%1:2619/211.9 (John Berenyi %1:2619/211.9)
Date: 04 Sep 96 16:01:27
Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
Subject: 19" rack rails question
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To: John Berenyi %1:2619/211.9%12:320/100.666
From: John Berenyi <[e-mail]>
Subject: 19" rack rails question
Organization: Texas Instruments

Just bought a rack mounting cabinet for all my Collins and acc. gear.
However, the R390's weigh a ton.  Where can I get rails to help assist
load these boatanchors?

John

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From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 17:17:10 1996
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From: Kevin Alfred Strom <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: 2010 AA battery fix - Correction
Date: Sun, 08 Sep 1996 13:13:06 -0700
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Dear Tony:

Radio Shack sells, or at least used to sell a couple years ago, what they
called a "memory capacitor." It had a rating of 0.1 Farads (or 100,000
microfarads) at 3 volts. It is about the size of a stack of three or four
dimes, if I recall correctly. It stores a lot of energy, enough to run
the microprocessor for about 10 minutes.

I just soldered the capacitor in parallel with the batteries, positive to
positive, negative to negative.

The clock and memories will hold for about ten minutes maximum when the
AA cells are removed, but it is best to replace them within a minute or
two. This is because the huge inrush of current into a nearly discharged
capacitor can sometimes drop the voltage enough to reset things when you
put the new batteries in. I tried some experiments with series resistors
to solve this problem but ultimately decided that it wasn't worth the
extra trouble. Just replace the batteries within two minutes and you
won't have any trouble.

Good luck!

With good wishes,

Kevin WB4AIO
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From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 17:17:11 1996
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From: Klausfiend <[e-mail]>
Subject: 4920???
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Can anybody ID for me the Spanish language station on 4920 kHz
around 0400-0500 UTC. Thanks

dave


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From: [e-mail] (Dave Kernick)
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Date: Fri, 06 Sep 1996 17:43:00 GMT
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Klausfiend <[e-mail]> wrote:

>Can anybody ID for me the Spanish language station on 4920 kHz
>around 0400-0500 UTC. Thanks

>dave

If it's slightly off-frequency (4919.9?) probably Radio Quito, Ecuador.



From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 17:17:13 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Charles P. Crawford)
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In article <[e-mail]>, Klausfiend
<[e-mail]> wrote:

> Can anybody ID for me the Spanish language station on 4920 kHz
> around 0400-0500 UTC. Thanks
>
> dave

Dave, I think your hearing Radio Quito, Ecuador. They are on 4919 and
listed as running 5000 watts.

I got a reply from them with the address in Passport.

I hear them alot hear in western KY.

Charlie

--
   "I was so much older then, I'm younger than that now."
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From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 17:17:14 1996
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Mr. Sawyer,

A copy of your illegal chain letter has been forwarded to your .edu
internet service provider, tntech.edu.  If you do not cancel all of
these posts, you could possibly lose your internet account.

Chain letters are not welcome in this, or any other legitimate newsgroup.

Please refrain from this rude activity.


A. Dale
ix.netcom.com






In article <[e-mail]>,
   [e-mail] (Michael Sawyer...HON10107) wrote:
>***********************************************************************
>This works, I did it and have already received $682.00 in the past week.
>************************************************************************
>Hello! I've got some awesome news that I think you need to take two
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From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 17:17:15 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Damon Z Cassell)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
Subject: Re: A 'Simple' Question re DX-440?
Date: 11 Sep 1996 21:39:15 GMT
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Paul King or Cris de Miranda ([e-mail]) wrote:

: Anyway, I recently picked up a Realistic DX 440 for $10.00 in a gov't
: surplus store which seems to work fine.

I'm jealous, that's a hell of a deal.  If you see a Drake R8A or an
NRD535 for $50, snag me one.

--
- Damon Cassell ----------
  Northeastern University.


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 17:17:16 1996
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From: rick steff <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
Subject: a big thank you
Date: Tue, 10 Sep 1996 02:46:54 -0600
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i just wanted to thank the news group for all the helpful responses on
my choice of a sw receiver.thanks to everyone's help, i purchased a
reconditioned grundig satellit 700 from universal radio for $349.i could
not have made such an educated decision on my purchase without the help
of the info in this group.i really appreciated the kind advice and
helpful pointers on what to look for.i look forward to  learning more
about sw and to the resources this group provides and hope i can help
someone as much as you all helped me.
all the best,
respectfully,
rick


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From: "Scott A. Nelson" <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
Subject: Re: A MESSAGE FROM GLENN HAUSER
Date: Thu, 05 Sep 1996 18:22:15 -0700
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STEVEN R LARE wrote:
>
> I have listened to Glenn Hauser for a long time, and have subscribed to
> his publications in the past.
>
> I have never found him to be a 'nutcase'.I too have listened to gh for many
years and have subscribed to both his
publications.  The man is extremely intelligent and very knowledgeable
about sw and radio in general.  I have never thought him to be a
'nutcase'.  His sw and dx news is the latest to be found anywhere.
                                                Scott


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 17:17:17 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Tim Gerchmez)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
Subject: Re: a newbie respectfully begs help
Date: Mon, 09 Sep 1996 17:24:15 GMT
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On Sat, 07 Sep 1996 21:51:09 -0400, Porchnoy <[e-mail]>
wrote:

>Rodger wrote:
>>
>> Hey Rick...
>>
>> We're all newbies here.  We can all learn from one another.  If I were
>> looking to buy a new radio today, I'd look *really* close at the Sangeon
>> 909.  Everything I've heard sounds really good.
>>
>> Rodger
>Except the fact that it does not have sychronous detection.

If a radio has SSB mode and is reasonably stable, synchronous
detection can be emulated easily enough.  I've found that it really
isn't necessary in a lot of cases.

--
Check out my home page at http://www.blarg.net/~future/index.html


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 17:17:20 1996
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From: rsteff <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
Subject: a newbie respectfully begs help
Date: Sat, 07 Sep 1996 01:32:48 -0600
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dear newsgroup,
i have tried to research this question before submitting it to this most
helpful group, but i really am getting confused.i am interested in
purchasing my first portable (or is it transportable?) shortwave
receiver.i am looking at products under $500.my main interests are
picking up the larger well known international broadcasters, but have
become intrigued by the possibilities of "dx-ing" and would like a radio
that could grow with my interests.i was very close to purchasing the
grundig satellit 700, but a recent visit to the radio netherlands review
web page treated me to their much less than favorable review.so i looked
closer at the sony icf sw 55 and sw77.but many in this group have
commented on the lack of synchronious detection in the sw55, and some
say a lot of the price of the sw77 is in the computer control features.i
realize that a lot of this is personal taste, but i really am having
trouble figuring out the right model for my needs.perhaps a newbie to sw
like myself would be satisfied with the features of the sangean 909, as
it is well reviewed by netherlands, but i'm trying to make as educated a
choice as possible.i realize that the old-timers of this group must get
awfully tired of taking the sw virgin by the hand with their choice of a
radio, but i would seriously appreciate any help on this decision as i
put a lot more stock in the opinions of this group of user's than i do
the ad pages.thank you for reading this lengthy plea and any info very
greatly appreciated.
thank you.
rick


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 17:17:22 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Paul Cecil)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
Subject: Re: afn/afrts
Date: Wed, 04 Sep 1996 23:41:41 GMT
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[e-mail] (Len Anderson) wrote:


>AFRTS has FM broadcasts from Belgium and Germany for U.S. forces there
>according to the '96 WRTH.  The mailing addresses for 'overseas'
>stations of AFRTS usually have an APO number which could mean surface
>mail would go to the USA and then back out again (?), rather slow.

Actually, It usually takes 2 to 5 days for a first class to go from
California to Germany. All priority mail is sent by air, the next
level is flown space available, and last is what ever is handy.

AFRTS here in Germany runs AM, FM, and TV stations at most military
facilities. As far as I am aware of there are no shortwave broadcasts
done by AFRTS.

Paul Cecil
KA5FPT / DA2PC
Kaiserslautern, Germany
Home to the largest military community outside the US of A




From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 17:17:23 1996
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From: Len.Anderson%1:2619/211.9 (Len Anderson%1:2619/211.9)
Date: 03 Sep 96 02:35:00
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To: Len Anderson%1:2619/211.9%12:320/100.666
From: [e-mail] (Len Anderson)
Subject: Re: afn/afrts
Organization: TGT Technologies / The MOG-UR'S EMS: 818-366-1238

DAK>From: [e-mail] (David A. Kaye)
DAK>Subject: Re: afn/afrts

DAK>P.J.M.Boon wrote the quoted material below:
DAK>" Hi, i'm looking for frequencies of AFN/AFRTS radio, that i can receive i
n
DAK>" Amsterdam, Holland.

DAK>AFRTS hasn't been on shortwave in over a decade.  They're distributed by
DAK>satellite.  You might wish to contact AFRTS locally (or the last contact
DAK>address/phone you have for them) and ask if they have recommendations.

AFRTS has FM broadcasts from Belgium and Germany for U.S. forces there
according to the '96 WRTH.  The mailing addresses for 'overseas'
stations of AFRTS usually have an APO number which could mean surface
mail would go to the USA and then back out again (?), rather slow.  The
public affairs officer at the AFRTS Hq might mail out a list and
schedule if mailed directly to:

   AFRTS-BC
   10888 Las Tunas Canyon Road
   Sun Valley, California 91352-2098
   USA

[that's a part of the city of Los Angeles, the eastern end of the San
Fernando Valley...and the gate is on Glenoaks Boulevard...yes, there's a
bunch of sat dishes on the premises...:) ]

---
 * OLX 2.1 * Flattery may get you everywhere.

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From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 17:17:24 1996
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From: rsteff <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
Subject: another beginner's plea for help
Date: Sat, 07 Sep 1996 02:06:33 -0600
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dear newsgroup,
i have tried to research this question before submitting it to this most
helpful group, but i really am getting confused.i am interested in
purchasing my first portable (or is it transportable?) shortwave
receiver.i am looking at products under $500.my main interests are
picking up the larger well known international broadcasters, but have
become intrigued by the possibilities of "dx-ing" and would like a radio
that could grow with my interests.i was very close to purchasing the
grundig satellit 700, but a recent visit to the radio netherlands review
web page treated me to their much less than favorable review.so i looked
closer at the sony icf sw 55 and sw77.but many in this group have
commented on the lack of synchronious detection in the sw55, and some
say a lot of the price of the sw77 is in the computer control features.i
realize that a lot of this is personal taste, but i really am having
trouble figuring out the right model for my needs.perhaps a newbie to sw
like myself would be satisfied with the features of the sangean 909, as
it is well reviewed by netherlands, but i'm trying to make as educated a
choice as possible.i realize that the old-timers of this group must get
awfully tired of taking the sw virgin by the hand with their choice of a
radio, but i would seriously appreciate any help on this decision as i
put a lot more stock in the opinions of this group of user's than i do
the ad pages.thank you for reading this lengthy plea and any info very
greatly appreciated.
thank you.
rick
p.s. please pardon the multiple post, my newsreader suffers from a
faulty operator.


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 17:17:27 1996
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From: [e-mail] (rick steff)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
Subject: another sw newbie's desperate plea for help
Date: Sat, 07 Sep 1996 02:30:09 -0600
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dear newsgroup,
i have tried to research this question before submitting it to this most
helpful group, but i really am getting confused.i am interested in
purchasing my first portable (or is it transportable?) shortwave
receiver.i am looking at products under $500.my main interests are picking
up the larger well known international broadcasters, but have become
intrigued by the possibilities of "dx-ing" and would like a radio that
could grow with my interests.i was very close to purchasing the grundig
satellit 700, but a recent visit to the radio netherlands review web page
treated me to their much less than favorable review.so i looked closer at
the sony icf sw 55 and sw77.but many in this group have commented on the
lack of synchronious detection in the sw55, and some say a lot of the
price of the sw77 is in the computer control features.i realize that a lot
of this is personal taste, but i really am having trouble figuring out the
right model for my needs.perhaps a newbie to sw like myself would be
satisfied with the features of the sangean 909, as it is well reviewed by
netherlands, but i'm trying to make as educated a choice as possible.i
realize that the old-timers of this group must get awfully tired of taking
the sw virgin by the hand with their choice of a radio, but i would
seriously appreciate any help on this decision as i put a lot more stock
in the opinions of this group of user's than i do the ad pages.thank you
for reading this lengthy plea and any info very greatly appreciated.
thank you.
rick


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 17:17:28 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Douglas A. Griffiths)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
Subject: Re: another sw newbie's desperate plea for help
Date: Sat, 07 Sep 1996 17:03:39 GMT
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>Rick wrote: .i am looking at products under $500.my main interests are
>picking up the larger well known international broadcasters, but have
>become intrigued by the possibilities of "dx-ing" and would like a radio
>that could grow with my interests.i was very close to purchasing the
>grundig satellit 700, but a recent visit to the radio netherlands review
>web page treated me to their much less than favorable review.so i looked
>closer at the sony icf sw 55 and sw77.but many in this group have
>commented on the lack of synchronious detection in the sw55, and some
>say a lot of the price of the sw77 is in the computer control features.

Rick, you will get all different kinds of opinions, but here is mine.
I am not a collector of QSL cards, I just like SW programming and its
wide diversity. So for my money I want a receiver that makes it easy
for me to catalog my own listening habits and reliably tune programs
with the best overall sound possible. I own a Sony 2010, Sony SW-55
and Sony SW-77. I actually prefer the SW-77 with external amplified
speakers. I continously shop around looking at the latest SW receivers
and it is hard to beat the computerized tuning of the SW-77. I like
the SW-55 for travel and it has much the same computerized tuning and
probably has the best sound of any portable of its size. Like I say,
it all depends upon your personal listening habits, but you will not
go wrong with the Sony's or the Grundig Satellit 700. Try looking into
the home pages of Grove Radio or Universal Radio for excellent used
buys. I have purchased used goods from Grove and I am favorably
impressed with the virtually new quality of the merchandize. Best
wishes and good listening or DX'ing.




From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 17:17:30 1996
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From: [e-mail] (CASchwark)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
Subject: Re: Antenna Advice wanted
Date: 12 Sep 1996 00:05:53 -0400
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Two very good sources for antenna information and
construction details for all types of indoor and
outdoor, large and small  antennas are:

Joe Carr's Receiveing Antenna Handbook
by Joseph J. Carr,  K41PV
High Text Publications, Inc.  $19.95
ISBN 1-878707-07-8 softcover
(Available at any good bookseller -
  Barnes&Nobel, B. Dalton, etc.)

. . . and . . .

The Antenna Handbook by Clem Small
Available from:
Grove Enterprises
P.O. Box 98
Brasstown, NC  28902
1-800-438-8155
Price - $12.95 + $2 book rate postage ($4.50 UPS)


Chuck Schwark, Chicago, IL



Chuck Schwark, Chicago, IL
Antique Radio Club of Illinois (Elgin)
Antique Radio Resource Page:
http://members.aol.com/caschwark/index.htm


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 17:17:31 1996
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From: "Boyd Roberson II" <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
Subject: Antenna/Realistic DX-440
Date: 9 Sep 1996 06:26:00 GMT
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I've a Realistic DX-440 that I use... I recently found that the
disconnected cable-tv coax works
much-much-much better than the telescoping thing it came with, but...
I've been wanting to get an outside antenna without getting more antenna
than the little radio's capable of using..<grin> I also don't have a large
attic or backyard for stringing out a few hundred feet of wire, which's
about all my local radio-shack seems to have.

--
DFW Texas, USA.
http://www.startext.net/homes/koogles



From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 17:17:32 1996
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From: John Figliozzi <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
Subject: Re: Anyone own DX 350?
Date: Tue, 10 Sep 1996 23:42:08 -0400
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To: kEN Colburn <[e-mail]>

kEN Colburn wrote:
>
> RadShack has the DX-350 on sale for $40. analog SW radio. Any good or
> piece of junk? yah i know, what do u want for $40 but like to have
> something portable. tia
>
> --
>
> My Mom's Net rules:
> No running on the Net with scissors!
> Don't read emale from strangers.
> Let your sister get online for awhile, dammit!
> Shut up, I'm on the modem!    [e-mail]
> http://www.mainelink.net/~writer/poster/Poster.html

Ken:

I bought one of these for my 11 year old son when he first expressed
an interest in sw.  It's no DX machine, but for the money it's not a
bad set for listening to the stronger SW broadcasters.  I took it with
me on a business trip and was surprised that it outperformed some
digital radios I had used previously in that it didn't appear to pick
up a lot of the hash that's so prevalent around modern hotels.  I'd
say go for it and try it for yourself.  RS has a liberal return policy
in the event it doesn't meet your needs.

Hope this helps!

John Figliozzi




From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 17:17:33 1996
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From: [e-mail] ()
Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
Subject: Re: Anyone own DX 350?
Date: 11 Sep 1996 03:49:45 GMT
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kEN Colburn ([e-mail]) wrote:
: RadShack has the DX-350 on sale for $40. analog SW radio. Any good or
: piece of junk? yah i know, what do u want for $40 but like to have
: something portable. tia

I used to own the DX-350, and now I own a DX-375.  The number of stations
I can pick up (i.e., the "sensitivity") is only slightly better on the
DX-375, but the main difference is that the DX-375 is digital, which
makes all the difference in the world.  For example, if you see in the
WRTH ("World Radio TV Handbook") that Radio Pyongyang is at 15,180 kHz,
then with the DX-375, you can just punch in "15180" on the number pad,
and PRESTO! You're now listening to Radio Pyongyang!  But with the
DX-350, you can pick up about 20 stations on the 19 meter band between
15,100 and 15,600, and it's very difficult to find out exactly where
15,180 is.  It's important to know that it's not just a matter of seeing
"15100" and "15200" on the dial, and setting the dial to 8/10 of the way
betwen "15100" and "15200".  Actually, on my DX-350, all the frequencies
on every band were about 200 kHz off!  So I had to set the dial to just
to the left of "15000" to pick up Radio Pyongyang.  But even then, I had
to guess where to set the dial because I could pick up lots of other
stations at nearby frequencies.  In fact, the only way I was ever to find
the stations I was looking for was just to recognize the voice of the
announcers!!!

And the worst part was that every band was off by a different amount!  So
I never knew what frequency I was on.  I even opened up the radio to try
to figure out how to adjust the frequencies to make them more precise, but
I didn't see any screwdriver adjustments for the frequencies.

So I strongly recommend buying the DX-375 instead, just because the 375
is digital, which makes all the difference in the world.

I don't know the price of the DX-375 in America because I'm in Taiwan, but
I think it's about $100.

Mark Nagel
Hualien City, eastern Taiwan



From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 17:17:34 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Guido Schotmans)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
Subject: aor shop in Canterbury ?
Date: Sat, 07 Sep 1996 17:22:32 GMT
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Hello,                                 19:19  3/09/96

I'm very interested the AOR 7030 receiver.  But untill now I
haven't seen here in Belgium.  I have seen it in Holland and
Germany but the prices are much higher than in the UK.

During the month of October, I am making a one day trip to
Canterbury.  Maybe someone  can inform me if there are shops in
Canterury where this kind of equipments is available.

Thanks in advance.




73 de Guido

**********************************************************
                     Guido Schotmans,
       DX-ANTWERP, P.O.Box 16, B-2660 Hoboken, BELGIUM
                     Fido : 2:292/878
                   e-mail :  [e-mail]
                            [e-mail]
**********************************************************



From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 17:17:35 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Alec Lemas)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
Subject: Re: AOR-7030 Versus NRD535D !! Guess who wins ?
Date: Thu, 12 Sep 96 16:55:17 GMT
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In article <518rr4$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Don
ald R. Putnick) wrote:

>
>But will Colin be serving free coffee?  Seriously though, I'm looking
>forward to the article.  Even though I'm very happy with my 535GS
>(and because of it, my receiver budget is zero) it's always helpful to
>learn more about it from other 535 owners.  Not to mention those
>great loggings that show up in receiver reviews.  Thanks, Colin et. al.
>

 How do you like GS?I have the 535-D version & was wondering about the Gilfer
mods.

 lemas

************************************************
 Alec Lemas       |    "Never get outta these |
                        Blues Alive"          |
                  ---------- John Lee Hooker

First choice Email: [e-mail]

Or,try this one: [e-mail]
************************************************


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 17:17:36 1996
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From: [e-mail] (John Rethorst)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
Subject: Re: Best Analog Radio?
Date: Mon, 09 Sep 1996 18:08:52 -0400
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In article <511u0q$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Mike Frenock) wrot
e:

> . . . It still seems
> to me, though, that for quick bandscanning an analong is
> both easier and faster.

Why? If both an analog and digital have a tuning dial, scanning is the
same operation.

John


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 17:17:38 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Radiomatt)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
Subject: Re: Best DC to daylight radio ?
Date: 5 Sep 1996 22:09:32 -0400
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polarad esh-3


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 17:17:39 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Dan Ferguson)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
Subject: Re: Best DC to daylight radio ?
Date: Tue, 10 Sep 1996 19:43:36 GMT
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[e-mail] (Lucerne  Van KESTEREN) wrote:

>In article <[e-mail]>,
>K.Bailey <[e-mail]> wrote:
>>Assume that you can only have ONE radio receiver, yet want to be able to
>>listen to as much as possible. You don't need to be concerned with size
>>or portability; it is to stay at your home. Price is not a major issue.
>>What would you choose?


>I would choose an Icom R7000.

But, of course, one should never make such an assumption!  :-)

df

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From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 17:17:40 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Daniel Grunberg)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
Subject: Re: Best place for 2010 repair
Date: 7 Sep 1996 10:53:14 GMT
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The site http://www.switchboard.com is a white-pages telephone directory of
the USA. You might want to look up Sony, there.

Good luck,

  -- Dan

"Charles P. Hobbs" ([e-mail]) writes:
> I think my 2010 has suffered from a zapped front end  .. . I only get
> noisy reception up to 6-7 mHz, and practically no reception any higher
> than that (unless I hold on to the antenna, and even then I still can't
> hear much . . . )
>
> Soooooo. .. . .where's a good place to get this fixed. (I'd rather not
> try to replace the FET myself . . .)
>
> Thanks in advance!
>
>


--
Daniel A. Grunberg              Kensington, Maryland  USA


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 17:17:41 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Steve Byan)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
Subject: Re: Best place for 2010 repair
Date: Mon, 09 Sep 1996 14:31:25 -0400
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In article <50ro0o$[e-mail]>, Mark Mohrmann
<[e-mail]> wrote:
>    It┤s not that hard to replace the FET! I had to replace 2 of them
> over the summer because I kept forgetting to ground my antenna. It takes
> about 1/2 an hour the first time you do it. Do you have a manual, or any
> of the posted descriptions on doing the repair? A small soldering iron and
> a Radio Shack MPF-102 will do it.

Sony used a 2SK152 FET. These are hard to obtain in the U.S.

The FAQ on the 2010 mailing list recommends using an MPF-102, which is
available from Radio Shack, but I think that this substitution was
marginal - not enough Vdd for the MPF102. The MPF102 is basically
floor-sweepings off the FET fab line; the spec sheet doesn't guarantee
much, so it's quite possible that some or most MPF102's will work fine as
replacements for the 2SK152. It's also possible that you'll get unlucky.

The spec for the MPF102 is that the magnitude of the gate threshold
voltage is less than 8 volts, which is too high for the 2010 (the 2010 has
a 4.5V supply rail).

I suggest the 2N5484, which uses the same process as the MPF102,  but
guarantees the magnitude of the gate threshold voltage is 3V or less.
Newark Electronics lists them for $0.50 in onesies.

(Thanks to John Doty for suggesting the 2N5484 as a substitute for the 2SK152.
)

Regards,
-Steve

--
Steve Byan                                  internet: [e-mail]
Hitachi Computer Products (America), Inc.
1601 Trapelo Road                           phone: [phone]
Waltham, MA 02154                           FAX: [phone]


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 17:17:42 1996
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From: [e-mail] (bob puharic)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
Subject: Re: Best place for 2010 repair
Date: Tue, 10 Sep 1996 09:53:56 GMT
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"Charles P. Hobbs" <[e-mail]> wrote:

>I think my 2010 has suffered from a zapped front end  .. . I only get
>noisy reception up to 6-7 mHz, and practically no reception any higher
>than that (unless I hold on to the antenna, and even then I still can't
>hear much . . . )

>Soooooo. .. . .where's a good place to get this fixed. (I'd rather not
>try to replace the FET myself . . .)

>Thanks in advance!


Might call a local store that deals with sony and ask them if there's
a repair shop around. There is one in Wexford, PA (outside of
Pittsburgh)  that worked on my 2010 a few yrs ago.



From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 17:17:43 1996
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From: Mark Mohrmann <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: Best place for 2010 repair
Date: 7 Sep 1996 11:58:16 GMT
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Charles,

   It┤s not that hard to replace the FET! I had to replace 2 of them
over the summer because I kept forgetting to ground my antenna. It takes
about 1/2 an hour the first time you do it. Do you have a manual, or any
of the posted descriptions on doing the repair? A small soldering iron and
a Radio Shack MPF-102 will do it.





From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 17:17:45 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Ron Hauger)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
Subject: Brother Scott & Mexican t
Date: Wed,  4 Sep 1996 15:54:00 GMT
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Lines: 19

 On 09-03-96 [e-mail] wrote to ALL...

 N > Anyhoo, this guy on the radio, it turns out from subsequent
 N > radio encounters is someone known as Brother Scott. I think
 N >
 N > So here's the set-up: What's the deal on ol' Bro. Scott?
 N > Is he for real, or am I just having a flashback?

         Sure, he is for real. I watch him on my satellite dish
everyday. You could easily scrounge up a BUD cheap and watch him
for FREE. Check with a sat. dealer for info on dishes. check the
sat tv conf. for more stuff. Stay away from the little dishes, get
a 10-ft. dish and a horizon-to-horizon mount. for European tv also.

 [e-mail]*KC4KNA*VBARC*AMSAT*RTTY*PACKET*SWL*ATV
 HF+VHF WEFAX*TVRO*SCPC*FM2*EXTRATERRESTRIAL*WATCHEROFTHESKIES

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 * OFFLINE 1.58


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 17:17:47 1996
From: [e-mail] (Willie)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
Subject: Re: building HF decoder
Date: Tue, 10 Sep 1996 15:41:18 GMT
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I did not read the article but I would recomend a program called Ham
com. It has the skamatic in the manual and can be put together on a
bread board for about $10.00 Canadian and will decoad morce, rtty,
amtor and with a program called JV Fax running the decoder it will do
fax and slow scan TV. all through the speeker jack and a radio with a
BFO or SSB



[e-mail] (ROX) wrote:


>Can someone answer a technical newbie question for me? A couple of
>months ago in Monitoring Times, an article was featured on HF weather
>fax receiving, using the shortwave headphone jack and a computer
>program. Included, was a list of part numbers to buy to create the
>decoder needed for around $20. I've done much soldering and wire fixing
>around the house, but have never created a circuit board from scratch.

>Is there much difficulty in doing this? Do I have to use "etching
>solution," or is there some sort of "idiot board" I could use?

>My only Internet exposure is through this local BBS link. If anyone
>would be kind enough to take the time to explain this to me, I would
>surely appreciate it!





From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 17:17:49 1996
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From: John Figliozzi <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
Subject: Re: CBC overnigh frequencies
Date: Wed, 04 Sep 1996 23:22:21 -0400
Organization: Earthlink Network, Inc.
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To: Terry Tuschen <[e-mail]>

Terry Tuschen wrote:
>
> Can anyone help me with the shortwave frequencies for the CBC, esp. the
> CBC overnight programming?
>
> I am a new shortwave listener, and I love it.  The overnight programming
> on CBC looks pretty good.
>
> Please reply via e-mail to [e-mail]
>
> I have limited access to newsgroups.
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> Terry

Terry:

CBC Overnight is not available via shortwave.  (However, the b/c's
used by CBC are already available to you if you have a shortwave
receiver, if you catch my drift.)  You could try the CBC Radio
affiliate in Winnipeg on 990 kHz.; Windsor on 1550 kHz.; or Toronto on
740 kHz.  Any or all of these should be audible with a decent AM
receiver at night at your QTH.

RCI has programming (most from CBC) weekday mornings from 1200-1400
UTC on 9640 and 11855 kHz. and evenings 2200-0000 and 0100-0300 on
5960 and 9755 kHz.  There are variations on the weekends.  Check out
the CBC/RCI web site for more specific info.

Hope this helps!

John Figliozzi



From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 17:17:51 1996
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Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
Subject: cherche ecouteurs francais
Date: Wed, 04 Sep 1996 23:13:36 GMT
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si vous etes un ecouteur francais et que vous voulez echanger des
informations ecrivez moi
|--------------------|
|[e-mail] |
|--------------------|



From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 17:17:52 1996
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From: [e-mail] (JStek)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
Subject: Chuff Relief for DX-440 and ATS-803A
Date: 6 Sep 1996 16:10:29 -0400
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    To eliminate "chuffing" while tuning the Radio Shack DX-440 and
Sangean ATS-803A:

    1)  Remove the back cover--note the screw in the battery compartment.
    2)  Locate the grey 8-wire ribbon cable running from the circuit board
above the loudspeaker near the center of the radio.  Gently, pry the
connector loose.
    3)  Find the second wire from the left (the side farthest from the
speaker) and bend the wire pin at right angles so that it will not connect
when the plug is reinserted.
    4)  Reinsert the 8-wire ribbon cable plug.
    5)  Replace the back cover.

   This works. I WILL NOT BE RESPONSIBLE IF YOU TOAST YOUR RADIO.


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 17:17:54 1996
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Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
Subject: Re: Couple of SW Questions...
Date: 5 Sep 1996 03:13:12 GMT
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He's not on anymore.
--
"listen, there's a hell of a good universe next door; let's go"  e.e.
cummings
"The Libertarian Immortalist ticket -- 'An End To Death And Taxes'"  R.A.
Wilson
My home page: coming soon (I hope).     IRC: JustnCase (I'm one of
several.)
Williamsport Area Computer Club: http://www.sunlink.net/wacc
DALnet:#wacc


Alan James <[e-mail]> wrote in article
<[e-mail]>...
> And also...whatever happened to Tom Valentine's Show on WWCR?? Is it the
> propogation or my radio??? I can't seem to get him!



From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 17:17:54 1996
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Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
Subject: Re: Couple of SW Questions...
Date: Fri, 06 Sep 1996 16:16:22 GMT
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>If you're willing to drop 19 bucks or so for a book, Passport to Worldband
>Radio has some good reviews on these and many other receivers.

Passport's reviews tend to be a little too subjective for me.  These
reviews from Radio Netherlands are generally more informative:

                http://www.rnw.nl/rnw/en/pub/testlab/index.html

dr
Dave Rickmers            I'd wake up and
[e-mail]   there'd be nothing...



From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 17:17:56 1996
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From: Tom C <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
Subject: Re: Couple of SW Questions...
Date: Mon, 09 Sep 1996 20:17:13 -0700
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Alan James %1:2619/211.9 wrote:
>
> To: Alan James %1:2619/211.9%12:320/100.666
> From: Alan James <[e-mail]>
> Subject: Couple of SW Questions...
> Organization: Netcom
>
> x-no-archive: yes
>
> My Panasonic RF2200 just bit the dust!!! What's a good replacement these day
s??
>
> And also...whatever happened to Tom Valentine's Show on WWCR?? Is it the
> propogation or my radio??? I can't seem to get him!
>
>  # Origin: Usenet:Netcom (1:2619/211.9)
>
>  # Origin: Gateway ARNet <-> HamNet by HB9EBW (12:320/100.666)
> --
> |Fidonet:  Alan James %1:2619/211.9 2:301/249.666
> |Internet: Alan.James.%1:2619/211.9
> |
> | Standard disclaimer: The views of this user are strictly his own.Too bad a
bout your RF2200...mine is still perculating.  Lots of people
like the Sonys and the Grundigs.  Valentine ran out of money and shut
down.  At least that's what he said one night a couple weeks ago. Maybe
it's a plot . . .


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 17:17:57 1996
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From: SHAWN AXELROD <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
Subject: Re: Couple of SW Questions...
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To: Alan James <[e-mail]>

Alan James wrote:
>
> x-no-archive: yes
>
> My Panasonic RF2200 just bit the dust!!! What's a good replacement these day
s??
> You can try the Grundig YB-400 or Sony 2010 for portables. Also the Lowe
150 is great but more $$$ than the other two.

More info at www.universal-radio.com on many receivers as well as alist
of used stuff.

73 Shawn


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 17:17:57 1996
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From: Alan.James.%1:2619/211.9 (Alan James %1:2619/211.9)
Date: 03 Sep 96 00:15:50
Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
Subject: Couple of SW Questions...
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To: Alan James %1:2619/211.9%12:320/100.666
From: Alan James <[e-mail]>
Subject: Couple of SW Questions...
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My Panasonic RF2200 just bit the dust!!! What's a good replacement these days?
?

And also...whatever happened to Tom Valentine's Show on WWCR?? Is it the
propogation or my radio??? I can't seem to get him!

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From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 17:17:58 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Hugh Stegman)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
Subject: Re: Drake SPR-4 crystals
Date: 9 Sep 1996 11:25:01 -0700
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In article <[e-mail]>,
   [e-mail] (Tim Colvin) wrote:

>Want a source of new or used crystals for the Drake SPR-4.
>Thanks in advance for any clues...  Tim

I'd give R.L. Drake a call.  They still support the 4-line, though parts
are pretty much gone.  All you need to know is the required frequency
offset and the crystal type, then any number of 3rd parties can make them
up.  Probably run about 10-15 bucks a rock, new, way less used.  If used,
try before buy if possible.


-hugh





From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 17:17:59 1996
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From: Keng-Hwee Chiam <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
Subject: Dressler ARA-40
Date: Tue, 10 Sep 1996 18:13:40 -0400
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Hi, I was wondering if anyone has had any good experience with the
Dressler ARA-40 active antenna.  I live in an apt., and am considering
getting the ARA-40 to enhance reception on my Satellit.

Any comments will be welcome.  Thanks!

Keng-Hwee
[e-mail]


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 17:18:00 1996
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From: "S.Manning" <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
Subject: Re: DX 390 modification
Date: 5 Sep 1996 22:39:14 GMT
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Jim Tedford / Nan Hawthorne <[e-mail]> wrote in article
<509il9$[e-mail]>...
> I'm trying to find an article that came out a couple of years ago on how
> to modify a Radio Shack DX 390. The article had instructions on how to
> get rid of the muting when using the tuning dial.  I found it on an ftp
site,
> but I've lost the article and don't remember where I found it.  Anyone
> know where this kind of article might live?
>
> jdt
>

There is an electrolytic capacitor just behind the volume control. remove
it and place a jumper across the two exposed points and solder in place.
This will eliminate the chuffing or squelching as it is often called.
There are two other capacitors just above this capacitor so make sure you
get the one just behind the volume control pot. Good luck.

7(Seven) AkA [e-mail]
Bootlegging on a friends cpu.


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 17:18:01 1996
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From: [e-mail] (MEM&GWM)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
Subject: DXing
Date: Mon, 09 Sep 1996 03:52:59 GMT
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I have a Sony ICF-SW7600G Short Wave Radio for the past 3 years. I
have been using it primarily for listening to the major stations in
english like the BBC and Deutsche Welle. But lately, after subscribing
to this newsgroup, I have become interested in DXing.

My questions are:

                             What exactly is Dxing and how do I do it?

                             Can I Dx with the 7600G using an indoor
                             antenna?



From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 17:18:02 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Eric Oyen)
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Subject: FCC Issues NAL
Date: Thu, 05 Sep 1996 18:14:20 GMT
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The following was received from the FCC Daily Digest for immediate
publication:
******************************************************************************
***********
Daily Digest

Vol. 15 No. 166
September 5, 1996

PHOENIX. AZ.  Issued a further notice of apparent liability in the
amount of $6,000 against Timothy Harold Hoffman, Phoenix, Arizonia,
for violations of various amateur radio rules.  Action by Chief,
Compliance Division, Compliance and Information Bureau.  Adopted:
August 30, 1996 by FNAL.  DA No. 96-1478.  CIB  Internet URL:
index.html

                                                - FCC -




From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 17:18:04 1996
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Date: Sat, 07 Sep 1996 10:44:00 -0400
From: [e-mail] (Gregory Baker)
Subject: Re: FIDEL IS 70 TODAY!
Message-ID: <NOMSGID_1=3A109=[e-mail]>
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Here are the good things Castro has done for the SWLing community:

        1) Arnie Coro and "DXers Unlimited."
        2) All those really interesting anti-Castro clandestines,
        such as "La Voz del CID," "R. Caiman," that station on
        Swan Island...

Remember, politicial controversy is great for DXing.  We conservatives
have had to sit still long enough to get 20 minutes of Radio for Peace
International for a reception report; you liberals have to sit still
long enough to listen to Rush Limbaugh or the militia movement on WWCR
for a reception report.

Could QSLs be the path to world peace?

And to think, if Fidel had just a little better curve ball, we'd
remember him as the Washington Senator pitcher who gave up Roger Maris'
61st home run!

------------------------------------------------------------------------
BRASS CANNON TAX SERVICES        [e-mail]
WB3EBO          Maryland Wing, Civil Air Patrol


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 17:18:06 1996
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From: [e-mail] (TIMOTHY GUEGUEN)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
Subject: Re: For Those Who Have Had Enough!
Date: 11 Sep 1996 06:09:52 GMT
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jmarvin ([e-mail]) wrote:
: Here's a little info for those of you who are sick and tired of
: WWCR misuse of the shortwave bands!

: The pertinent Commission rule is Section 73.788(a) which reads as
: follows:  A licensee of an international broadcast station shall
: render
: only an international broadcast service which will reflect the
: culture of
: this country and which will promote international goodwill,
: understanding, and cooperation.  Any program solely intended for
: and
: directed to an audience in the continental United States does not
: meet the
: requirements for this service.

: In the event you wish to file a complaint regarding station WWCR,
: Nashville, the correct address is:  Larry W. Olson, Acting Chief,
: Planning
: and Negotiatons Division, International Bureau, Federal
: Communications
: Commission,  2000 M St. N.W.,  Washington, D.C. 20554
Personally I think that this section of the broadcasting regs is silly.
Further, you can bet that any such complain will get little attention
from an understaffed FCC, who would rather not get into what might turn
into a constitutional challenge of this regulation.
I suggest that if you don't like what you hear on WWCR then you should
complain directly to them.  If enough people do so then they will pull
the offending programs off the air.  While you're at it, tell them what
kind of programming you'd prefer to hear.  Who knows, you may give them
an idea for some new programming.

tim gueguen [e-mail]


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 17:18:08 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Alec Lemas)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
Subject: Re: For Those Who Have Had Enough!
Date: Wed, 11 Sep 96 00:27:03 GMT
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In article <514kf5$2ub$[e-mail]>, jmarvin <104674.134
[e-mail]> wrote:
>Here's a little info for those of you who are sick and tired of
>WWCR misuse of the shortwave bands!
>
>The pertinent Commission rule is Section 73.788(a) which reads as
>follows:  A licensee of an international broadcast station shall
>render
>only an international broadcast service which will reflect the
>culture of
>this country and which will promote international goodwill,
>understanding, and cooperation.  Any program solely intended for
>and
>directed to an audience in the continental United States does not
>meet the
>requirements for this service.
>
>In the event you wish to file a complaint regarding station WWCR,
>Nashville, the correct address is:  Larry W. Olson, Acting Chief,
>Planning
>and Negotiatons Division, International Bureau, Federal
>Communications
>Commission,  2000 M St. N.W.,  Washington, D.C. 20554

 Thanks but no thanks.To much of Big Brother already.
 I employ my own form of censorship,I turn the channel.

 lemas

************************************************
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                        Blues Alive"          |
                  ---------- John Lee Hooker

First choice Email: [e-mail]

Or,try this one: [e-mail]
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From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 17:18:09 1996
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From: "Stephen N. Phipps" <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: For Those Who Have Had Enough!
Date: Wed, 11 Sep 1996 11:21:14 -0700
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>  Alec Lemas wrote:

> >In article <514kf5$2ub$[e-mail]>, jmarvin
> >[e-mail] wrote:
> >Any program solely intended for and directed to an audience in the
> >continental United States does not meet the requirements for this
> >service.

>  Thanks but no thanks.To much of Big Brother already.
>  I employ my own form of censorship,I turn the channel.

I totally agree.  Anyway, most of the WWCR programs I've heard are
aimed at a general audience; not just limited to USA listeners only.

Stephen Phipps
[e-mail]


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 17:18:09 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Howard Sherer)
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Subject: FS Grundig Sat-700
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For Sale like new in the box $350.
Howard AE3T


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 17:18:10 1996
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From: [e-mail] (colteng)
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Subject: FS ICOM R71A CHEAP
Date: 10 Sep 1996 18:02:42 GMT
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FOR SALE ICOM R71A SHORTWAVE RECIEVER 100 KHZ TO 30 MHZ COVERAGE
ASKING $400 US OR 500 CDN
IN MINT SHAPE @ 6 YEARS OLD

EMAIL [e-mail]
OR
[e-mail]




From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 17:18:11 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Mark)
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Subject: FS Kenwood R-2000  Communications Rec. $335.00
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This Kenwood R-2000 receiver is in excellent condition with the Manual
call Mark 414-434-8097 after 6:00 pm central



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From: [e-mail] (Mark)
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Subject: FS Yaesu FRG-7 Communications Rec.  $125.00
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Call Mark at 414-434-8097 after 6:00 pm central



From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 17:18:14 1996
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From: Steve Lambert <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
Subject: FS: $95-Sangean 803
Date: Sat, 07 Sep 1996 06:13:46 -0500
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I've got a very clean Radio Shack DX440 (which is the same as the
Sangean 803) for sale. The radio has had very little use. I'll take
$95 and I'll pay the shipping! A nice radio at a very attractive price.
Original manual is included of course.


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 17:18:15 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Gary)
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Subject: Re: FS: All Ham Bands, Reply to Republican Congress
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[e-mail] (Richard Dunmyer) wrote:

>T  E  I  X  E  I  R  A <[e-mail]> wrote:


>>>The Democrats screw up and the Republicans have a party. Then the
>>>Republicans screw up and the Democrats have a party.
>>>
>>>This is known as the 'two-party' system.
>>>
>>Yea.....Politicians treat us like Mushrooms.........They keep us in the dark
 and feed us Bull
>>Shit!

>>Dole ain't worth a damn & Clinton is a Republican in a Democrats cloths.

>I respectfully disagree with the above statement....Dole isn't worth a
>damn but Clinton is a Marxist Liberal who is lying to appeal to the
>mainstream america....Most folks actually believe what he says...He
>will be elected in a landslide and then may God have mercy on us all!


>Illigitimi non carborundum
I agree and I can't belive that 55% of the country is going to fall
for it.

          "73" Gary KF9CM




From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 17:18:16 1996
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Subject: Re: FS: All Ham Bands, Reply to Republican Congress
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Jeff Stevenson wrote:
>
> In article <50u7fa$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Gary) wrote:
> >>I respectfully disagree with the above statement....Dole isn't worth a
> >>damn but Clinton is a Marxist Liberal who is lying to appeal to the
> >>mainstream america....Most folks actually believe what he says...He
> >>will be elected in a landslide and then may God have mercy on us all!
> >
> >
> >>Illigitimi non carborundum
>
> >I agree and I can't belive that 55% of the country is going to fall
> >for it.
> >
> >          "73" Gary KF9CM
> >
> >
>
> In that case then, you are what is known as the "minority".  During your
> tenure as the "minority" you may voice your opinion as loudly as possible an
d
> participate in the whole process to the fullest extent possible.  Four years
> from now  then you will have the opportunity to be in the "majority."
>
> Jeff

Maybe-


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 17:18:17 1996
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From: Porchnoy <[e-mail]>
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[e-mail] wrote:
>
> [e-mail] (Jeff Stevenson) writes:
>
> Look, you guys. This is an INTERNATIONAL newsgroup where the subject is
> supposed to be about Amateur Radio, not American politics.
>
> This discussion long ago ceased to be on topic.
>
> Please give the rest of the world some consideration and leave the
> discussion of American politics, fascinating as it may be to you, to
> other, more appropriate newsgroups.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Bob, VE7HS
>
> [e-mail]  Robert Smits, VE7HS, Ladysmith B.C.
If you really want to be bored, let's talk about Canadian politics.
--
Fixing used Volvos is probably easier and more fun than
trying to get Abe Lincoln re-admitted to Pat Buchanan's
party [the Republican Party].
   -- Editorial: The New York Times (August 14, 1996)


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 17:18:18 1996
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From: asiv ([e-mail])
Newsgroups: alt.guitar,alt.bass,alt.guitar.amps,alt.guitar.bass,alt.ham.radio.amtor,rec.musicmakers.guitar,rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.homebrew,rec.radio.shortwave
Subject: FS: Tube Tester
Date: Thu, 05 Sep 1996 21:08:19 GMT
Organization: Earthlink Network, Inc.
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Tube tester, Electron Tube model TV2C/U, in near dead mint condition, everythi
ng
intact (including wheel). If you are near Nashville, I can deliver it, or
otherwise you pay shipping, etc.

They don't even come close to making them like this anymore...

Best serious offer....please respond before 9/7

[e-mail]




From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 17:18:19 1996
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From: Buehler.Martin.%1:2619/211.9 (Buehler Martin %1:2619/211.9)
Date: 04 Sep 96 06:28:52
Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
Subject: FS: VLF Converter
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To: Buehler Martin %1:2619/211.9%12:320/100.666
From: Buehler Martin <[e-mail]>
Subject: FS: VLF Converter
Organization: Ascom Hasler AG, Berne, Switzerland

----------------
 VLF Converter
----------------

Converts the VLF frequency range (up to 500kHz)
into the SW range.

$42

[e-mail]

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From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 17:18:21 1996
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From: Gary Wilburn <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.swap,rec.radio.shortwave
Subject: FS:Sangean ATS818, $95.00, Portable Shortwave Receiver
Date: Thu, 05 Sep 1996 23:34:16 -0400
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ATS-818 Portable Shortwave Receiver (The one without the cassete tape.)
$95.00 to your door(UPS CONUS) add $5.00 for COD. Excellent Shape
Features;
Receives: Long Wave 150-519 hkz
       Medium Wave 420-1620 khz
         Shortwave 1621-29999 khz
         FM Stereo 87.5-108 Mhz
45 memory presets 9 on each band, Dual time display for UTC and Local
BFO control for SSB or CW reception, AM wide and narrow filter
Direct freq tune, auto scan, manual scan, memory recall or
normal rotary tuning knob, operates off 4 D size batteries or AC adaptor
that is included, LCD also shows signal and battery strength, has
display light, RF gain, Volume and Tone control. AM external antenna
jack and stereo headphone jack.
  Has a long built in telescopic antenna. Dual conversion design.
   Good sounding receiver. Includes manual, orig. box. I am the orig
owner. Non smoker.
   I am selling because I just dont use it and have other portable and
base SW/ham receivers.(Icom 706,735, 2010 etc) This receiver looks new
and is excellent shape.
   If interested please call or E mail.
Thanks for reading this message !
Gary Wilburn
NI8K
--
NNNN

"Destiny is a matter of choice not chance"

Gary L. Wilburn Jr. NI8K
4721 OliveBranch-Stonelick Rd.
Batavia, Ohio 45103-9772  (Suburb of Cincinnati)
[phone] Home [phone] Fax


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 17:18:22 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Joe Read)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
Subject: Re: G Gordon Liddy
Date: Sat, 07 Sep 1996 12:53:45 GMT
Organization: INTERNET AMERICA
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"John L. Berenyi" <[e-mail]> wrote:

>Jeff Tripp wrote:
>>
>> If anyone has G Gordon Liddy's shortwave frequency and broadcast time could
>> you please email it to me?Thanks
>> Jeff,Bangor Maine


>Hey Jeff,

>If you find out PLEASE let me know.  Since I moved to Dallas, Texas I
>cant get him on normal AM.

>Thanks,

>John


Jeff,

I'm sorry I don't have a SW freq. for the G man.

John,

You can find the G man on 570 AM between 8pm & 12am CDT.

Joe



From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 17:18:23 1996
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From: [e-mail] (David Moisan)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
Subject: Re: Got My SR III (refurbished) but strange problem?
Date: Mon, 09 Sep 1996 04:17:05 GMT
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[e-mail] (Dennis Lathem) wrote:

>This condition also appeared if the radio was left alone on a station
>for a few minutes.  A tap on the front of the case would bing it back
>to life.

It's probably a cold solder joint on the main PC board.  You could fix
it, since you've already localized the exact point on the radio (and
thus the board) by your tapping.


>had very poor reception, however, the SR III produces a real high
>pitch wine all over the AM band while inside my building.  Given this,

I've not heard of this symptom, albeit I've only an SR II.
I have an awful feeling this problem and the earlier one are related,
perhaps due to cold solder joints in the IF or local oscillator
stages.  That would definitely account for the whining.

Anyone else have problems with SR III self-generated RFI?

SR's *are* picky about where in the room you place them, though. :)
In my old apartment, I could *never* listen to DX and use the
computer;  the interference was just too great.  New apartment, NO
problems!  A *smaller* apartment, mind you.  In a concrete building.
My shortwave reception is in the dumpster, but my SR works great.  Go
figure!

Dave

| David Moisan, N1KGH                        Email: [e-mail]  |
| WWW: http://www.shore.net/~dmoisan                [e-mail]    |
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From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 17:18:25 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Dennis Lathem)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
Subject: Re: Got My SR III (refurbished) but strange problem?
Date: Tue, 10 Sep 1996 01:57:38 GMT
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[e-mail] (David Moisan) wrote:


>It's probably a cold solder joint on the main PC board.  You could fix
>it, since you've already localized the exact point on the radio (and
>thus the board) by your tapping.

Could be...I talked to Thompson this morning and they are not only
sending me a replacement unit by three day, but they will mail me a
label for UPS to return the defective unit to them at no charge to me.

>>had very poor reception, however, the SR III produces a real high
>>pitch wine all over the AM band while inside my building.  Given this,

>I've not heard of this symptom, albeit I've only an SR II.
>I have an awful feeling this problem and the earlier one are related,
>perhaps due to cold solder joints in the IF or local oscillator
>stages.  That would definitely account for the whining.

My building was the only place that this occured...I did not duplicate
it while it was sitting next to my laptop at home.  I can assume that
there is some RF demon hiding in the building causing this.

>Anyone else have problems with SR III self-generated RFI?

>SR's *are* picky about where in the room you place them, though. :)
>In my old apartment, I could *never* listen to DX and use the
>computer;  the interference was just too great.  New apartment, NO
>problems!  A *smaller* apartment, mind you.  In a concrete building.
>My shortwave reception is in the dumpster, but my SR works great.  Go
>figure!

I didn't seem to have much computer noise..either in my office or at
home.  I did a lot of turning on and off and such.  I have one of
those touch lights on my bedside table and even this did not seem to
cause the SR III a problem when I listened late at night for some of
my old favorites...but the blasted cutting out sure did cause me a
problem.

I will see what the replacement unit brings....I hope they get it here
quicker than the last one.

thanks for your comments..

Dennis



From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 17:18:26 1996
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From: Karl Kurz <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
Subject: Grundig repair address ?
Date: Mon, 9 Sep 1996 12:06:31 -0400
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Does anyone have the address for the Grundig repair facility,
my YB finally succumbed to hard use.

Thanks, Karl



From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 17:18:27 1996
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From: Orrin Edwards <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
Subject: Re: Grundig repair address ?
Date: Tue, 10 Sep 1996 16:08:57 -0400
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On Mon, 9 Sep 1996, Karl Kurz wrote:
> Does anyone have the address for the Grundig repair facility,
> my YB finally succumbed to hard use.

I guess you could call Grundig at 1-800-872-2228 and ask!

----
Orrin - Long Island, New York
[e-mail]
http://hoflink.com/~oedwards/            (Personal)
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From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 17:18:27 1996
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From: Jim Finney <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
Subject: Re: Grundig Yacht Boy 400
Date: Thu, 05 Sep 1996 22:44:09 -0400
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Henrik Falkentorp wrote:
>
> I am interested in comments on Grundig 400 Yacht Boy from new and old
> owners as I am thinking of buying the radio.

It is a great radio.  Very sturdy and hears well.  I have owned one for 2 year
s and recommend it.

Good luck,

Jim..

--

-----------------------------------------------------
Jim Finney
[e-mail]
http://users.southeast.net/~jpf
Jacksonville, Florida
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From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 17:18:28 1996
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From: [e-mail] (John Q. Public)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
Subject: Re: Grundig Yacht Boy 400
Date: 5 Sep 1996 01:46:36 GMT
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In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail]
says...
>
>I am interested in comments on Grundig 400 Yacht Boy from new and old
>owners as I am thinking of buying the radio.

 I have had mine for a year and a half. Excellent little set and one of the
best buys available in SW radios right now. Good Luck, Steven MacLeod.



From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 17:18:29 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Jim Collins)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
Subject: Help on building longwire antenna needed
Date: Mon, 9 Sep 1996 05:03:27 PST
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I have been out of SW for 30 years and just bought a ICF-2010 and now want to
put up an antenna to improve reception. I live in a neighborhood with
covenanta against external wires hanging between houses and trees (there are
so few trees in my yard, I'd have to use one of the neighbors anyway). I have
this idea about stringing a wire around the 2nd story of my house under the
eaves. Here are my questions:

1) Will this help ?

2) If I string it under the eaves, should I keep it close to or away from the
gutters (they aren't grounded)?

3) Do I need a good ground?

4) Do I feed it to a coax (75ohm or 50) before coming into the house?

5) How to match it to coax ?

6) 360 loop or stop at 90 ?

7) Should I use insulated or enamel wire and if insulated what gauge and solid

I suppose (Skin effect)?

Thanks for your help !

JC

   Jim Collins, Seattle, Washington
   e-mail: [e-mail]


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 17:18:33 1996
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From: [e-mail] (DSchopp)
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Subject: Re: Help on building longwire antenna needed
Date: 11 Sep 1996 10:18:51 GMT
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In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] wrote:

> Jim Collins wrote:
> >
> > I have been out of SW for 30 years and just bought a ICF-2010 and now
want to
> > put up an antenna to improve reception. I live in a neighborhood with
> > covenanta against external wires hanging between houses and trees (there a
re
> > so few trees in my yard, I'd have to use one of the neighbors anyway).
I have
> > this idea about stringing a wire around the 2nd story of my house under th
e
> > eaves. Here are my questions:
> >
> > 1) Will this help ?
> >
> > 2) If I string it under the eaves, should I keep it close to or away
from the
> > gutters (they aren't grounded)?
> >
> > 3) Do I need a good ground?
> >
> > 4) Do I feed it to a coax (75ohm or 50) before coming into the house?
> >
> > 5) How to match it to coax ?
> >
> > 6) 360 loop or stop at 90 ?
> >
> > 7) Should I use insulated or enamel wire and if insulated what gauge
and solid
> > I suppose (Skin effect)?
> >
> > Thanks for your help !
> >
> > JC
> >
> >    Jim Collins, Seattle, Washington
> >    e-mail: [e-mail]
>
>Jim,

I went to RS and bought their $9.95 long wave antenna kit. I strung the
wire across my attic, out the attic vent, down the side of my house, and
through the window into the room where my Sony 2010 is. I wrapped some
duct tape around the wire where it comes through the window to protect it.
I connected the wire to the Sony mini plug that came with the 2010 and
connect to the radio through the external antenna jack. This antenna
greatly improves reception over the radio's whip at very little cost. This
antenna is not grounded so I make sure I disconnect the antenna when there
are storms in the area or I'm away from the radio. I've had no problems
with static discharge and the noise level with the long wire antenna is
not greater than with the radio's whip antenna.

One trick with the Sony 2010, it has a built in preamp that is
disconnected when you push the miniplug all the way into the external
antenna jack. If you push the miniplug just part of the way into the jack,
the preamp will stay on and increase your reception. You can tell that the
preamp on by watching the signal strength indicator and pushing the plug
into the jack slowly. I usually tune to a weak, local AM station, and when
all the LED's are on I know the preamp is still on. Doing this also
disconnects the internal ferrite bar AM atenna and icreases your AM
reception, especially during daylight when the noise level is lower.

Dan Schopp


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 17:18:33 1996
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From: n2cjj@LOCALNAME
Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
Subject: How about 3.910?
Date: Thu, 05 Sep 1996 11:00:03 GMT
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Those who stop by and make stupid comments
without giving your callsign need a lesson in identity.
If you have a problem with identity, you're a very
shallow person.  You're living in the no dive zone.
Strap on a set.


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 17:18:34 1996
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From: "David W. Knisely" <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
Subject: Re: How about 3.910?
Date: Fri, 06 Sep 1996 04:37:58 -0700
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n2cjj@LOCALNAME wrote:
>
> Those who stop by and make stupid comments
> without giving your callsign need a lesson in identity.
> If you have a problem with identity, you're a very
> shallow person.  You're living in the no dive zone.
> Strap on a set.

I think you may be in the wrong newsgroup.  This one is generally for
shortwave listening.  What are your comments referring to?
--
David W. Knisely KA0CZC   email: [e-mail]
1616 North 14th St., Beatrice, Nebr.  68310

Prairie Astronomy Club, Inc.  http://www.infoanalytic.com/pac/

BABYLON 5: Our last best hope for QUALITY science fiction.


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 17:18:35 1996
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From: [e-mail]
Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
Subject: how to eliminate qrm on MVT7100 when computer is on
Date: Wed, 04 Sep 1996 23:11:33 GMT
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the problem with my Rx is the qrm of the computer , this is very
strong ,  How to stop it , is there a filter to made ,, thanks for all
your help
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From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 17:18:36 1996
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From: [e-mail] (TIMOTHY GUEGUEN)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
Subject: Re: How to get Canadian License?
Date: 12 Sep 1996 03:26:50 GMT
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John Yu ([e-mail]) wrote:
: Dear OMs,

: I'm a new immagrant to Canada. I would like to know how can I get the inform
ation of
: the amateur radio operator's license exam in Canada? Your assistance to obta
in the
: necessary material will be appreciated!!

: 73

: John Yu
: [e-mail]
: Vancouver, B.C.
Why not phone up the local amateur radio clubs in Vancouver?  That would
be the easiest thing to do.  If you have an amateur licence from another
jurisdiction it might turn out to be real easy to get a Canadian
licence.  Radio Amateurs of Canada have a really nice web sight.  I don't
have the URL handy, but if you have access to a search engine it
shouldn't be too hard to find.

tim gueguen [e-mail]



From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 17:18:37 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Michael Alexander)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
Subject: Re: Hurricane Fran Alert!  Disaster Recovery & Prevention
Date: Fri, 06 Sep 1996 18:26:59 -0400
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In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] wrote:

> Disaster Master (R) Online.
>
> Hurricane Fran Alert!  Disaster Recovery & Prevention
>
>
> Education on how to recover from disasters is never learned  in school,
but it should be. Most people must enroll in the college of emergency
knowledge which is the most expensive education you can get. To avoid
wasting time and money your best bet is to consult with people whose only
business is crisis management which is disaster prevention, physical
recovery and financial recovery. Call us now at  1 800 THE PLAN for more
information.
>
> Please forward this notice to your friends and business associates who
can benefit dramatically from knowing where the right answers are.
>
> Ron Alford
> Crisis Management Consultant Professional Speaker
> Author of 3 Consumer books on disaster revovery and insurance claims
> http://www.theplan.com    email: [e-mail]   1 800 THE CLAIM
(843-2524)
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------
> This article was posted to Usenet via the Posting Service at Deja News:
>     http://www.dejanews.com/      [Search, Post, and Read Usenet News!]W

Well, this is truely useful! It takes unmitigated gall to post such a
crass advertisement about the same time that the hurricane is set to roll
into town. What next, fellas, chasing ambulances, standing around outside
of funeral parlors, and passing your cards out at conventions for people
with terminal disease? Why don't you crawl back under that rock you live?
We'll call you if we want you (please hold your breath).

--
Michael Alexander
[e-mail]


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 17:18:38 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Damon Z Cassell)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
Subject: Re: I would like to hear number stations  HELP
Date: 6 Sep 1996 18:13:50 GMT
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Michael Weiskopf ([e-mail]) wrote:
: Damon Z Cassell ([e-mail]) wrote:

:       Yes, but --->in my experience<---, I haven't heard many
:       numbers/SLHFB broadcasts in the "afternoon", living mostly in
:        the Midwestern United States. I agree that it is a propagation
:       issue, just as it was when I was DXing time signals.  Only rarely
:       could you hear something like VNG or BSF during the day, but
:       they broadcast nonetheless.

I didn't mean to tear you apart over your advice, it was all fairly
accurate and good for helping a beginner, but I thought I would just
expand on it a little, for those who may be interested.

:       I wasn't saying that they couldn't be.  I was merely
:       pointing out a few frequencies that they were specifically
:       on. My lowest I think was somewhere around 3300 kHz,
:       and a visiting friend to Mexico could hear them on the
:       'AM' bands at certain times of day.  I have never personally
:       heard any above 20 MHz in five years of scouting around,
:       at least from my location.  Similarly, they've all been
:       after dusk, most notably around 11 PM - 3 AM, speaking at
:       the very least for the Warrenton Woman broadcasts.

Back 4 or 5 years ago, when propogation was good, I remember hearing
YL numbers stations in the 25 MHz neighborhood, albeit not frequently.
They are definately more abundant on lower frequencies, but it's
interesting to find them in obscure high frequency areas.  You won't
probably hear them there until the sunspot cycle picks up in a few
years.

:       The "scheduled" stations are most likely dummy broadcasts.
:       Although the One-Time Pad system is nigh on impossible to
:       crack, you can hear entire groups being repeated night after
:       night, esp. on 6840.

This is interesting.  I've never actually copied the groups and compared
them to find patterns.  I'm actually not a big numbers station chaser,
however I do find them interesting when I stumble across them.  It
definately should be noted that 6840 and surrounding frequencies are
hotbeds of numbers station activity, and are a good place to start if
you want to hear them.  In fact, leave your receiver on the frequency
starting at dusk and you'll more than likely hear one before you go to
sleep for the night.  It's cool though to go finding them on other
frequencies.  Other popular areas seem to be lower 5 MHz area, upper
and lower 9 MHz areas, and upper 7 MHz.

--
- Damon Cassell ----------
  Northeastern University.


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 17:18:41 1996
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From: Aldo.R..Ortiz%1:2619/211.9 (Aldo R. Ortiz%1:2619/211.9)
Date: 02 Sep 96 16:01:17
Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
Subject: ICF- SW7600, SANGEAN ATS-909/SIEMENS RK 777  REVIEW
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Organization: WoodyWare Software, Inc.
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To: Aldo R. Ortiz%1:2619/211.9%12:320/100.666
From: [e-mail] (Aldo R. Ortiz)
Subject: ICF- SW7600, SANGEAN ATS-909/SIEMENS RK 777  REVIEW
Organization: University of Sydney, Australia.

I was trying to find these reviews and finally I did, now let's share it :)

http://www.rnw.nl/rnw/en/pub/testlab/sw7600g.htm  this is the URL for the Sony

http://www.rnw.nl/rnw/en/pub/testlab/sang909.htm  and this one the Sangean

Both are from Radio Nederlands

Regards

Aldo

Sydney

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From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 17:18:43 1996
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From: Heath Golub <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
Subject: ICOM P2AT for SALE (MINT CONDITION)
Date: Thu, 05 Sep 1996 03:00:33 -0400
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CC: rec.radio.swap

I have an Icom P2AT w/the Cigarette Battery Charger and High Powered
Battery.  I was just wondering if anyone would happen to need a
good/reliable HF/FM HT for any purpose.  I purchased the unit about 2
years ago for search and rescue while I was a member of the C.A.P.. I no
longer have time and besides, there weren't many mission in Hillsborough
for a Communications Unit Director.

If anyone is interested, please e-mail me and I will send you complete
specs. Thanks,

Heath Golub
[e-mail]

ps-I have never done this before, so I am up for any suggestions. If I
have
posted this to an incorrect news group, I apologize.


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 17:18:44 1996
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From: Heath Golub <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave,rec.radio.swap
Subject: ICOM P2AT for SALE (MINT CONDITION)
Date: Thu, 05 Sep 1996 03:01:19 -0400
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Xref: news2.epix.net rec.radio.shortwave:78435 rec.radio.swap:72563

I have an Icom P2AT w/the Cigarette Battery Charger and High Powered
Battery.  I was just wondering if anyone would happen to need a
good/reliable HF/FM HT for any purpose.  I purchased the unit about 2
years ago for search and rescue while I was a member of the C.A.P.. I no
longer have time and besides, there weren't many mission in Hillsborough
for a Communications Unit Director.

If anyone is interested, please e-mail me and I will send you complete
specs. Thanks,

Heath Golub
[e-mail]

ps-I have never done this before, so I am up for any suggestions. If I
have
posted this to an incorrect news group, I apologize.


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 17:18:45 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Morris the Cat)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
Subject: Icom R-70 S-meter problem
Date: 9 Sep 1996 16:50:04 GMT
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I was wondering if anyone had any ideas as to what might be causing these
S-meter problems. The S-meter was adjusted by Icom America to ensure that
the squelch circuitry functioned properly (The S-meter was never at "zero"
after that; readjusting the S-meter to show a "zero" condition under a no
signal condition resulted in the receiver squelching itself to give no
audio signal at all when an input signal dropped below some level. So, I
readjusted the S-meter circuitry back to what Icom America had set it too.).

The S-meter always reads rather low from what the receiver indicated when
new; the S-meter will raise some units when the receiver'd "Dimmer" control
is set to "Normal" brightness, and go back down when set to "Dim."

Any ideas where to look for a problem? A bad amplifier chip for the S-meter?
A bad cap somewhere? How could the "Dimmer" control effect the S-meter
reading?


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 17:18:46 1996
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From: [e-mail] (JStek)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
Subject: Improve the GE Super l, ll, lll
Date: 9 Sep 1996 03:22:02 -0400
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   In response to an advert I saw in Monitoring Times, I had my GE Super
Radios modified to receive satellite relayed "sub-carrier" broadcasts by a
business called SCS Radio Technology.  They installed a couple of pc
boards enabling the radios to receive commercial-free voice and music on
FM sub-carriers.  On the Super-lll, he upgraded filters to improve DXing
selectivity...noticeable improvement.  This one is worth a try.  Talk to
Dave at: 1-417-881-8401.  No, I don't work for them or have any connection
with their business.
      Jon


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 17:18:47 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Lucerne  Van KESTEREN)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
Subject: Re: Incredible signal on 15.440
Date: 6 Sep 1996 01:19:39 GMT
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In article <[e-mail]>,
Kevin Muenzler  <[e-mail]> wrote:
>I was tuning around to check propagation last night and
>heard a S9+60 signal at 15.440.  It was an oriental
>language, I don't know which one.  It never identified
>in English so I don't know where it was.  I tried to listen
>for a city name at the top of the hour but never heard one
>that I could recognize.  It signed at 00:00 GMT but still
>no ID in English.  Does anyone have any ideas?  I've never
>heard a non-local station so strong.  I tried to null it
>with my 20 meter yagi but it was so strong that the only
>"nulls" were east and west, dropping the signal to about
>S9+40.  Please respond to me directly, I don't have direct
>access to usenet.
>
>Thanks,
>Kevin Muenzler, WB5RUE
>[e-mail]

Kevin,

You were listening to the Voice of Free China broadcasting from Taipei,
Taiwan, R.O.C.  They transmit to North America on a daily basis using
WYFR's transmitters in Okeechobee, Florida to relay their signal.  They
also broadcast in English in the evenings from 0200-0400 UTC on 5950 kHz
to Eastern North America.  Check out their English transmissions when you
have a chance....their programming is very interesting and enjoyable.

73s

Nancy
c/o  [e-mail]


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 17:18:48 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Ian Liston-Smith)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
Subject: Ionospheric Cross Modulation (Luxembourg Effect)
Date: Fri, 06 Sep 1996 01:09:21 GMT
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Does anyone know where I can find more information regarding
ionospheric cross modulation (also known as the Luxembourg Effect).
This is the transferring of the modulation from one transmission to
another in the ionosphere. First noticed in the 1930s and generally
MWstations onto LW - or is it the other way around?!!
Thanks,
Ian
[e-mail]



From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 17:18:48 1996
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From: [e-mail] (zommbee)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
Subject: Iraq - any North America English broadcasts?
Date: 5 Sep 1996 03:49:51 GMT
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In light of what is going on in Iraq, does anyone have
frequencies of English broadcasts beamed at North
America? At one time they were on 11935 from 0300 to 0400,
but I haven't been able to hear anything.

Any help would be appreciated.


Dave WB7AWK
[e-mail]


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 17:18:49 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Dave Kernick)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
Subject: Re: Iraq - any North America English broadcasts?
Date: Thu, 05 Sep 1996 21:08:06 GMT
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[e-mail] (zommbee) wrote:



>In light of what is going on in Iraq, does anyone have
>frequencies of English broadcasts beamed at North
>America? At one time they were on 11935 from 0300 to 0400,
>but I haven't been able to hear anything.

I haven't heard, or seen reported, any Radio Iraq International broadcasts in
English for
well over a year, and only very occasional ones in Arabic. However, I think th
at if they
did go on the air again it would most likely be at a time like this! So, good
hunting.....




From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 17:18:50 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Charles P. Crawford)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
Subject: Re: Iraq - any North America English broadcasts?
Date: Thu, 05 Sep 1996 16:53:27 +0100
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Monitoring Times, Sept '96 issue, lists Radio Iraq Int'l at 1000-1300 utc
on 13680 in English.

Good luch in hearing them.

Charlie in western KY.





In article <50likv$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (zommbee) wrote:

> In light of what is going on in Iraq, does anyone have
> frequencies of English broadcasts beamed at North
> America? At one time they were on 11935 from 0300 to 0400,
> but I haven't been able to hear anything.
>
> Any help would be appreciated.
>
>
> Dave WB7AWK
> [e-mail]

--
   "I was so much older then, I'm younger than that now."
                                          B. Dylan


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 17:18:51 1996
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From: Raimo Makela <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
Subject: List of Tropical Band Radiostations
Date: Fri, 06 Sep 1996 08:28:35 +0300
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Update! More than 600 shortwave stations from 2310 to 5770 kHz with a
frequency, name and location. Stations from Africa, Asia, South- and
Central-America and Oceania.

You can find this noncommercial page at

http://www.yle.fi/sataradio/tropical.html


/RM


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 17:18:52 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Peter Costello)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
Subject: Re: looking for FAQ
Date: 10 Sep 1996 04:59:41 GMT
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Len Anderson ([e-mail]) wrote:
: LE>From: "Eugene A. LeDuc" <[e-mail]>
: LE>Subject: looking for FAQ

: LE>Is there an FAQ I can DL?  I'm a new SWL looking for some guidance
: LE>Being the impetuous type I have already bought a Radio Shack DX392
: LE>I hope it is a good choice.  I am interested in tuning in on some real
: LE>news about what is really going on in the world around me.

    As for SWL FAQ, point your web browser at the Shortwave/Catalog's
Radio Services page  (http://itre.ncsu.edu/radio/RadioCatalogSW.html)
and at the top you will find some basic SWL info, including, a hypertext
FAQ written by Ralph Brandi.

    Pete

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From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 17:18:53 1996
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From: Marc DIEBOLD <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
Subject: Looking for the SW freq. of AFRICA No. 1
Date: Mon, 09 Sep 1996 07:46:29 +0200
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I'm Looking for the SW freq. of AFRICA No. 1.
Thanks
Marc
--
__________________________________________________________
Marc DIEBOLD
67070 STRASBOURG CEDEX FRANCE
Phone: [phone]   in october: (33)03.88.416.149
Fax:   [phone]   in october: (33)03.88.416.060
mailto:[e-mail]
http://cournot.u-strasbg.fr/diebold/homepage.htm
ftp://currif3.u-strasbg.fr/pub/diebold/
________________________________________________________


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 17:18:55 1996
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From: [e-mail]
Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
Subject: Re: Lowe 25 feedback - good or bad?
Date: Tue, 10 Sep 1996 15:57:33 GMT
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[e-mail] (Nick Marsh) wrote:

>Looking for feedback on the Lowe 225 receiver. I am planning to get a used
>one soon and would like to know the warts as well as the good points.

>Any comments will be appreciated, especially those relating to computer
>control.

>tia

>Nick
>WB4SQI
Sometimes this internet can be the misinformation superhighway...for a
warts and all review of the HF-225 cut and paste this into your web
browser (if ya got one):

                http://www.rnw.nl/rnw/en/pub/testlab/low225.htm

the synch detector is usually  used for normal AM (i.e. SWBC) type
program listening.  Utility (voice) monitoring is SSB (lsb or usb).
dr
Dave Rickmers            I'd wake up and
[e-mail]   there'd be nothing...



From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 17:18:56 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Alec Lemas)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
Subject: Re: Lowe 25 feedback - good or bad?
Date: Wed, 11 Sep 96 00:53:37 GMT
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In article <[e-mail]>, jcr2@cornel
l.edu (John Rethorst) wrote:
>In article <50vlbo$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Nick Marsh)
> wrote:
>
>> Looking for feedback on the Lowe 225 receiver. I am planning to get a used
>> one soon and would like to know the warts as well as the good points.
>>
>> Any comments will be appreciated, especially those relating to computer
>> control.
>>
>I'm very happy with my 225 Europa, a 225 with different filters. It
>doesn't have synchronous selectable sideband (the Lowe HF 150 does), which
>may be important for utility listening. I only listen to world band, which
>rarely uses SSB, so I don't miss it.
>
>Computer control of the 225 is less capable than of the 150 or 250. The
>225 computer interface is pretty minimal, I think.
>
>John

 Didn't know you could use  synchronous selectable sideband on u/lsb.Can't on
my 535-D,unless it's an undocumented option.Right.

 lemas

************************************************
 Alec Lemas       |    "Never get outta these |
                        Blues Alive"          |
                  ---------- John Lee Hooker

First choice Email: [e-mail]

Or,try this one: [e-mail]
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From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 17:18:57 1996
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From: "Jim Shaffer, Jr." <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
Subject: Re: MY OPINION ON RELIGIOUS BROADCASTERS - for what it's worth...
Date: 5 Sep 1996 03:13:15 GMT
Organization: Unconventional Conventionalists
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I haven't listened to WWCR for a while, other than for "World Of Radio".  What
happened to Cooper's show, and when?

The Antichrist's show was entertaining, but there were only two of them.  The
web site is much more interesting.

--
"listen, there's a hell of a good universe next door; let's go"  e.e. cummings
"The Libertarian Immortalist ticket -- 'An End To Death And Taxes'"  R.A.
Wilson
My home page: coming soon (I hope).     IRC: JustnCase (I'm one of several.)
Williamsport Area Computer Club: http://www.sunlink.net/wacc     DALnet:#wacc


Caress <[e-mail]> wrote:
> Now if any of you want to put up the cash to build a 150 KW transmiiter,
> curtain antennas, studios, pay the license and engineering costs, pay a HUGE

> electric bill every month, etc.  I'll support your right to broadcast
> whatever you want.  You wanna preach esoteric humanism, go ahead!  In fact,
I

> wish someone would.......
>
> BILL COOPER, WHERE ARE YOU!?



From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 17:18:58 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Radiomatt)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
Subject: NATIONAL RADIO COLLECTORS
Date: 10 Sep 1996 15:52:53 -0400
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HRO-500 and HRO-600 FOR SALE AS A PAIR.
Both a rack mount, both complete with original manuals. Both need work,
but they did work in the past. $1600 firm....must take both


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 17:19:00 1996
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From: Jim.Gyer%1:2619/211.9 (Jim Gyer%1:2619/211.9)
Date: 01 Sep 96 19:15:31
Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
Subject: Re: Need Receiver Recommendations
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
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To: Jim Gyer%1:2619/211.9%12:320/100.666
From: [e-mail] (Jim Gyer)
Subject: Re: Need Receiver Recommendations
Organization: Just my little old self

The three receivers you mention are reviewed on the Dutch radio
internet page.  http://www.rnw.nl/en/pub/testlab/index.html#index will
take you right to an index of receivers.  I looked up one of mine and
their comments were right on the money.  They have a good tutorial on
antennas too.

Jim Gyer ([e-mail])
=====================================================================
[e-mail] (Tom Bredemus) wrote:

>I am looking at buying a new SW receiver to upgrade from my DX440. My
interests are broadcast and utility listening with a special interest in MW
DXing. The models I have
>the greatest interest in are the R8A, AOR7030, R5000, and the R71A. I am in a

>suburban location approx. 4 miles from a major TV/FM antenna site which many
of the
>stations here use, so I have some concern for intermod. rejection. There also
are a couple of MW stations approx. 5 miles away.

>I would appreciate any comments on these receivers and comparisons. I have
read all
>of the published reviews and would like comments from actual users of these
receivers.

>Thanks in advance.

>-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
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------
>The above views do not necessarily reflect those of my employer, but they are
mine,
>nor should they be construed as an endorsement of any type!



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From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 17:19:02 1996
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BENELUX DX-CLUB (BDXC) INFORMATION
==================================

NEW & UPDATED info available via "World Wide Web" on Internet at:

  http://www-dx.deis.unibo.it/htdx/swls/bdxc.html

* NEW - "DX-Hotline (8th September 1996)"

73's   Jan

======================================================================
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From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 17:19:02 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Dr Pepper)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
Subject: Re: newcomer to SWL...
Date: Thu, 05 Sep 1996 22:07:07 GMT
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[e-mail] (Richard A Madsen) wrote:

>Try replacing some of the tubes.  It sounds like a tube-type Rcvr.
>I have Collins 75S-1 tube-type receiver and have been SWL since 1937.
>W0MM.

Ya got me, , , Old Man, , , ,
I built my first crystal set in 1939.
Ron Cheshire
WB6GKI

Dr Pepper
10 - 2 - 4




From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 17:19:03 1996
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From: Porchnoy <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
Subject: Nothing
Date: Sat, 07 Sep 1996 15:17:58 -0400
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Gregory Baker wrote:
> you liberals have to sit still
> long enough to listen to Rush Limbaugh
> for a reception report.
NOTHING makes it worthwhile to listen to that ASSHOLE.
--
Fixing used Volvos is probably easier and more fun than
trying to get Abe Lincoln re-admitted to Pat Buchanan's
party [the Republican Party].
   -- Editorial: The New York Times (August 14, 1996)


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 17:19:04 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Roger Wiseman)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
Subject: Re: Now that's a grownup response!
Date: Sat, 07 Sep 96 22:18:48 GMT
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In article <50r05m$[e-mail]>,
   [e-mail] (Beckford00) wrote:
>
>>In article <50qn6u$[e-mail]>,
>>    [e-mail] (Hale Barnell) wrote:
>>In article <50q41n$[e-mail]>,
>>   [e-mail] (Roger Wiseman) wrote:
>>>Thanks, Colin or should that be COLON
>>
>>Downright scintillating, the things you guys talk about.
>>One would need a middle school in the area to find
>>anything as interesting.

Spell much????? Maybe you should go back to your middle school class!

>I am just amazed that Roger Wiseman is still on this server. I complained
>to its postmaster after he Emailed me an obsenity in which he called me a
>Nazi. (It goes to prove that one complaint does not always motivate a
>server...which is why we need all need to complain when scatological
>postings and such are made to this ng.)
>William Beckford
Since you chose to flame in public, I will respond, even though I'd rather
talk about SW antennas, etc......
I'm not amazed what a functional illiterate you are, Beckford. Of course, you
can't have *high* expectations from AOLer's. Obviously you don't know that the

internet is a series of servers. Don't like what I post, DON'T READ THEM!!!!
And quit trying to repeal the freedom of speech...

--
[e-mail] (Crow(Roger Wiseman)) #(:)o]
Kenwood R-5000 | Inverted V dipole
Grid square EM 99 | West Virginia, U.S.A.


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 17:19:05 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Colin Steamlen)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
Subject: Obvious lost thread - quit the spams
Date: 6 Sep 1996 06:03:47 GMT
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In article <50nivk$[e-mail]>,
   [e-mail] (Roger Wiseman) wrote:
>In article <b05.9/21/95M03.1911994@LOCALNAME>, n2cjj@LOCALNAME wrote:
>>
>>Those who stop by and make stupid comments
>>without giving your callsign need a lesson in identity.
>>If you have a problem with identity, you're a very
>>shallow person.  You're living in the no dive zone.
>>Strap on a set.
>
>Huh? What's *he* on about????
>


For the hopelessly unaware, this is *obviously* a misplaced thread
from someone's ongoing discussion of abuses in the 75-meter amateur
radio SSB band.  There is a persistent group of people down there
who blather on about their various political agendas, and never
sign with their FCC callsign per part 97 of the Rules.

The writer of this thread undoubtedly had more than the original
newsgroup in his 'to' line, and it ended up here by mistake, without
the preceding discussion to give it some meaningful context.

So that is what he is *on* about.



From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 17:19:06 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Roger Wiseman)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
Subject: Re: Obvious lost thread - quit the spams
Date: Sat, 07 Sep 96 11:46:28 GMT
Organization: MountainNet, Inc. Morgantown WV 800.444.1458
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In article <50oes3$[e-mail]>,
   [e-mail] (Colin Steamlen) wrote:
<condescending bastard's crap snipped>

blow me....

--
[e-mail] (Crow(Roger Wiseman)) #(:)o]
Kenwood R-5000 | Inverted V dipole
Grid square EM 99 | West Virginia, U.S.A.


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 17:19:09 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Roger Wiseman)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
Subject: Re: Obvious lost thread - quit the spams
Date: Sat, 07 Sep 96 22:18:50 GMT
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In article <50oes3$[e-mail]>,
   [e-mail] (Colin Steamlen) wrote:
>>>Those who stop by and make stupid comments
>>>without giving your callsign need a lesson in identity.
>>>If you have a problem with identity, you're a very
>>>shallow person.  You're living in the no dive zone.
>>>Strap on a set.
>>
>>Huh? What's *he* on about????

>For the hopelessly unaware, this is *obviously* a misplaced thread
>from someone's ongoing discussion of abuses in the 75-meter amateur
>radio SSB band.  There is a persistent group of people down there
>who blather on about their various political agendas, and never
>sign with their FCC callsign per part 97 of the Rules.

You *must* be psychic....got all that from a little snippet did, you, Colon?


>The writer of this thread undoubtedly had more than the original
>newsgroup in his 'to' line, and it ended up here by mistake, without
>the preceding discussion to give it some meaningful context.
>
>So that is what he is *on* about.

You're a condescending bastard, aren't you????

--
[e-mail] (Crow(Roger Wiseman)) #(:)o]
Kenwood R-5000 | Inverted V dipole
Grid square EM 99 | West Virginia, U.S.A.


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 17:19:09 1996
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From: Michael Poser <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
Subject: Panasonic RF5000A
Date: Fri, 06 Sep 1996 23:56:24 -0400
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I have a ~24 year old Panasonic RF5000A "portable" that needs some small
repairs.  Does anyone know where I should go?

Thanks,
MP


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 17:19:10 1996
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From: Jan Galicia <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
Subject: PDXBulletin
Date: Thu, 05 Sep 1996 23:12:42 +0000
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Hello all,

I'm the Webmaster for Danny ON4VT who is publishing the
Picture DX Bulletin (SSTV)on a monthly basis.
If you're interested have a look at
http://www.club.innet.be/~pub02749/sstv01.htm

Our Organisation is Vlaamse Radioamateur Bond
My call ON6JG, Name Jan

An appreciation report would be welcome.

Greetings to all of you.



From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 17:19:12 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Peter Costello)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
Subject: Re: Pete Costello WEB PAGE ? ? ?
Date: 10 Sep 1996 04:50:15 GMT
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Bry ([e-mail]) wrote:
: Does ANYONE have any idea what has become of this guy's web page?

: It doesn't work any more ...


   Brian and I exchanged e-mail on this and he has discovered the problem
isd with his end of the internet.

    Bry seemes to have had a local DNS server glitch near his Internet
Service Provider.  The SHORTWAVE/RADIO CATALOG is working just fine,
even after Huricane Fran hit NC last week.

   Check out http://itre.ncsu.edu/radio/ yourself.

   Pete Costello
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From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 17:19:13 1996
Path: news2.epix.net!news
From: [e-mail] (Anon)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
Subject: Re: Q: is there a AM/FM/SW *car* radio out there?
Date: Mon, 09 Sep 1996 04:56:44 GMT
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[e-mail] (Glenn Mead) wrote:

>In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Mike Neme
th) wrote:
>>if not, i once heard of a box that you would plug into your car radio
>>that would allow you to receive SW.  has anybody heard of that?
>>
>If money is no object, an ICOM 706 with a couple one mod will give you the
>ability to receive everything up thru 165 Mgz which include HF, 6m, commercia
l
>FM and Commercial AM. If you aren't licensed, just don't plug in the mike. Th
e
>face plate is detachable so you can mount it anywhere. It also has 100
>memories, does not play CD's or tapes and the FM is mono not stereo. But hey,

>what do you expect for $1200?


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Philips makes an AM/ FM/ SW in-dash car radio. It sells for about $349
last time I checked.  I don't know much about the specs.  Try EEB out
of Vienna VA. or Grove for starters.



From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 17:19:14 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Morris the Cat)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
Subject: Re: R-70/71 Display noise was Re: GE Super Radio/RS Clone?
Date: 9 Sep 1996 15:08:18 GMT
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|Icom's R71A and R7000 both have problems with electrolytics on the
|display board.  There are files around [look for ICr71, R71a with that
|old standby archie] that tell how to fix and with what.  Worst case the
|display stops working; noise is more of a black art, at least in the
|R71A.

|Wathc out for size differences in the electrolytics - the spaces are
|small, and you can contribute to the noise problem.....

[The following is for the Icom R-70; I am not sure what is applicable
to the R-71 because I don't have the schematic.]

Well, Sunday I replaced the AC PS bridge rectifier with the Rat Shack
(Tandy) 4 Amp @ 100 PIV one. This is a real pain-in-the-ass because the
PC boards holes are too small for the leads on the RS BR, so I used a
knife and a file to laboriously shrink the diameter of the leads. I adjusted
the voltage to 13.8V DC output as per the service manual. [I have a Rat
Shack MOV surge suppressor placed across the input AC connector which I
put in years ago. However, I understand these slowly degrade with time as
well as being rather slow in responding the transients (You need something
like a Transorb to catch the fast stuff), so perhaps I should also replace
that unit as well eventually.]

I obtained two 100mfd/35WVDC radial lead electrolytic caps at Rat Shack as
well, to replace the 100mfd C4 & C7 electrolytic caps on the pi-network filter
of the -10V output of the DC-DC convertor on the flourescent display board;
however, after getting the free Rat Shack catalog, I noticed that RS now offer
s
a 100mfd/16WVDC cap (also a 100mfd/10WVDC), but I didn't see that one at the s
tore.

I removed the screws on the main board on top of the receiver and moved it out
of the way so as to gain access to the display board. I disconnected the conne
ctor
on top of the display board, and the wiring harnass connector that goes to the
PLL board underneath the receiver. I then removed the display board after unsc
rewing
the two screws holding it to the top frame of the receiver.

Capacitors C4 and C7 are immediately adjacent to the DC-DC convertor which is
the
small shielded metal box on the left side of the Display board. I yanked both
of these
capacitors (yes, it _IS_ a tight fit); they were both rated at 100mfd, 10WVDC,
 just
like the service manual said. The C7 space accomodated the RS 100mfd/35WVDC ca
p as I
was able to mount the unit flush against the PC. board. However, the C4 space
didn't
have quite the space to allow flush mounting of the new capacitor; even though
 I tried
to get a little extra space by unsoldering one of the leads on the green ceram
ic
disk capacitor and moving it slightly. The replacement 100mfd/35WVDC cap sits
slightly
higher on it's leads than the original cap now. I doubt if it makes much diffe
rence
though in the suppression of EMI from the DC-DC convertor (You could always us
e the
presumably physically smaller 100mfd/16WVDC RS unit for C4, but it is a bit mo
re
expensive than the 35WVDC unit.).

Results:

With the display dimmer button set to normal brightness, there is a whole worl
d
of difference in the background hash. However, with the dimmer switch set to "
Dim"
significant "hash" is still present on some frequencies.

Any ideas on suppressing the RF hash with the Dimmer set?


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 17:19:15 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Morris the Cat)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
Subject: Re: R-70/71 Display noise was Re: GE Super Radio/RS Clone?
Date: 9 Sep 1996 16:38:40 GMT
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|I am using an R-70 S/No:07728 - fairly early - supplied here in
|Australia in 1982.

|The one 'problem' that HAS surfaced several times is the quality, or
|otherwise, of PCB soldering on the MAIN board around the
|three-terminal regulator IC7, a 78M08.  This device operates at a
|fairly high temperature and the origianl PCB soldering eventually
|'dried'!!  The soldering has been 'renewed' several times over the
|last 13 years!!

If you ask me, that sounds more like a bad regulator IC than bad
soldering. I speculate that heating the leads somehows conducts
enough heat into the IC to warp something enough to cause it to
work. I'd replace the regulator rather than wait for some sort of
catastrophic failure...


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 17:19:16 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Mark Fraser)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
Subject: Re: R-70/71 Display noise was Re: GE Super Radio/RS Clone?
Date: 6 Sep 1996 18:27:51 GMT
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Icom's R71A and R7000 both have problems with electrolytics on the
display board.  There are files around [look for ICr71, R71a with that
old standby archie] that tell how to fix and with what.  Worst case the
display stops working; noise is more of a black art, at least in the
R71A.  Ignore the ICOM bulletin on display board mods, unless you
find it still doesn't work with the electrolytics replaced; the mod calls
for slightly different transistors in the dc/dc convertor, but the vast
majority of units don't seem to need the change, or already have it.

Wathc out for size differences in the electrolytics - the spaces are
small, and you can contribute to the noise problem.....

/mark

Morris the Cat ([e-mail]) wrote:
: |In article <50hn5a$[e-mail]>, [e-mail]
: |(Morris the Cat) wrote:
: |>
: |> I noticed something interesting as well in the R-70's DC-DC convertor -10
V
: |> output filter; the two electrolytic capacitors, the 100 and 47mfd caps ar
e
: |> both rated at 10WVDC! Like no derating for reliability was done; could th
ese
: |> caps have possibly degraded with use (It's been reported a certain tantal
um
: |> capacitor on the display board of the flourescent display Icom R-7000 fai
ls
: |> causing all sorts of receiver maladies...)?

: [Note: I made a boo-boo reporting that the -10V from the DC-DC convertor is
: later regulated down to 8V; the 8V used in the R-70 is from the normal 12V
: power buss fed into a regulator...]

: |I recall hearing (on Compuserve's HAMNET forum) that it is indeed these
: |caps that should be replaced to reduce the display noise. My R71A has this
: |problem, I've never gotten around to fixing it. It seems most severe
: |around 2 MHz or so, but is often swamped by "real" noise...

: Thanks!!!! I've asked about this problem before and never received ANY answe
r;
: maybe there is a light at the end of the tunnel for these EMI problems.

: I was looking at the R-70's schematic yesterday and noticed there's an error
: in the schematic (the single long page that was included with the receiver's
: operation manual). In comparing the filtering for the 12V input and -10V out
put,
: the inductor that is used in the LC pi-network on the -10V output of the DC-
DC
: convertor has become transposed with the resistor in the RC pi-network filte
r
: for the 12V input. The schematic diagram of the DISPLAY board in the R-70
: service manual is correct, as it matches up to the physical layout PC board
: sheet (The large sheet that has green diagrams of the various PC boards in
: the set.); just a friendly warning if you start looking for these parts in
: the circuitry...

: |Chris
: ||Finger me ([e-mail]) for my PGP Public Key
  |


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 17:19:17 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Eric F. Richards)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave,rec.radio.amateur.equipment
Subject: R-8A for SWL DX and HAM work?
Date: 11 Sep 1996 14:07:58 GMT
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Greetings, all...

I have a question:  I'm considering purchasing a Drake R-8A receiver for
both SWL DX chasing and to be used as a ham radio receiver.  As a ham
receiver I'd be using it mostly (at least initially) for CW.

Question:  Is it a good choice?  SWLers seem to like it but what do
hams think of it?

Thanks in advance for any comments!

Regards,
--
Eric F. Richards
[e-mail]
KB0YDN
"The weird part is that I can feel productive even when I know I'm doomed."
- Dilbert


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 17:19:18 1996
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From: [e-mail] (TIMOTHY GUEGUEN)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
Subject: Re: Radio Shack and Sangean
Date: 10 Sep 1996 19:42:31 GMT
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Eugene A. LeDuc ([e-mail]) wrote:
: Hi:
: I've been reading r.r.sw for a while and I noticed that there seems to
: be a Sangean model alter ego to the DX series by Radio Shack ... They
: are made by the same Mfger?  I just got a DX 392 and so far I'm happy
: with it.   But I need to use an external antenna or an amplifier "thing"
: Thats next!  Being  new to SWLing I find that I spend more time tuning
: in than turning on (the TV)! which is a thing IMHO.
: Thanks for the news group I am learning fast because of it ...and the
: net... I found the books mentioned in the FAQ and now I'm looking for a
: good periodical.
: I'v been in electronics for almost 30 years.  I started out working in a
: Gvt. Mfgr for Navy ship radios. UHF VHF stuff with big linear tuned
: cavity power amps. I did airborn navigation equipment in the AF.  But
: for the last 18 years I do mostly digital stuff and PC based data
: acquisition.  This seems to be a great hobbi as well as being informed.
: --
: Gene LeDuc
: [e-mail]
: Jesus Christ is LORD
Most of Radio Shack's shortwave gear in the last few years has been made
by Sangean.

tim gueguen [e-mail]


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 17:19:19 1996
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From: [e-mail] (JStek)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
Subject: Re: Radio Shack DX-390 vs DX-394?
Date: 11 Sep 1996 11:37:42 -0400
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In article <516b65$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Lester
John Ness) writes:

>Subject:       Re: Radio Shack DX-390 vs DX-394?
>From:  [e-mail] (Lester John Ness)
>Date:  11 Sep 1996 12:26:45 GMT
>
>       DX 390 and DX 392 are the same machine.  Only difference : DX 392
>has a tape recorder added.
>
>--
>Lester Ness    [e-mail]
>
>------------------- Headers ---------

Gents/Ladies:
   The question here is between the DX-390 portable and the DX-394
tabletop unit.  Comments concerning the 394 tabletop receiver would be
most welcome. :-)


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 17:19:20 1996
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From: gary sellani <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
Subject: Re: Ready to Purchase Sony 7600G ... but where?
Date: Thu, 05 Sep 1996 20:40:51 -0700
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John Figliozzi wrote:
>
> Sonya Lyles wrote:
> >
> >   After 4 months of research, reading and soul searching I have
> > FINALLY decided to purchase a Sony 7600G over the YB400. Problem is I
> > don't seem to find them locally in any stores. EEB mail-order seems to
> > have the best mail order price -- but as always I would prefer to
> > walk into a store somewhere to make my purchase.
> >
> > Can anyone reccomend any retailers who stock the Sony 7600G so I
> > don't have to risk the mail-order route?
> >
> >  Thanks in adance.
> >
> >  WDX3ILT
> >
> >             _
> >            (_`
> >            ._)onya
>
> Don't know your QTH, but here in NY we have a chain of electronics
> stores called Nobody Beats the Wiz and I've seen the 7600G there
> numerous times.
>
> Hope this is helpful!
>
> John Figliozzi

I mail ordered one from Smile Camera in NYC for $169+shipping.


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 17:19:21 1996
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From: [e-mail] (KvE)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
Subject: Re: RF systems
Date: Sun, 08 Sep 1996 05:25:40 GMT
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[e-mail] (Angel Alonso) wrote:

>Hello !!!

>Sorry for my english, I am spanish and can not manage very well.

>I'm looking at getting a shortwave antenna for my ar8k, and have found
>RF systems have some very well known antennas.
>Does anybody work with Magnetic Longwire Balun from RF systems ???
>Or perhaps with DX-10 ??
>I think these are the most appropiate antennas I have found.

>Please, I need as much information as possible.
>Any info will be wellcome.

>Thanks in advance.


>__________________________________

>-- Angel Alonso <[e-mail]>


I myself am using a T2FD. Mine I made myself, but RF has them as well.

It's a very good low noise antenna from abt 3MHZ-35 MHZ.

More questins?

Just ask!!

Kees (Holland)




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From: [e-mail] (Angel Alonso)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
Subject: RF systems
Date: Fri, 06 Sep 1996 23:05:29 GMT
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Hello !!!

Sorry for my english, I am spanish and can not manage very well.

I'm looking at getting a shortwave antenna for my ar8k, and have found
RF systems have some very well known antennas.
Does anybody work with Magnetic Longwire Balun from RF systems ???
Or perhaps with DX-10 ??
I think these are the most appropiate antennas I have found.

Please, I need as much information as possible.
Any info will be wellcome.

Thanks in advance.

__________________________________

-- Angel Alonso <[e-mail]>


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 17:19:27 1996
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From: [e-mail] (RFPI)
Subject: RFPI Sked correction (URGENT)
Sender: [e-mail]
Organization: Radio For Peace International
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Date: Mon, 9 Sep 1996 17:05:57 GMT
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9, September 1996

Dear Friends,

A note to clarify an error in the last Weekly Update.  RFPI's 9th
anniversary "Fiesta-on-the-Air" falls on UTC Tuesday evening (17,
September) and not Wednesday evening as stated in the Update.  In the
Americas that is Monday evening 6-8 pm Central Daylight Time.

Many thanks to George Thurman for pointing out the error!

Joe Bernard,
RFPI



From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 17:19:28 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Lucerne  Van KESTEREN)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
Subject: Re: rock on SW?
Date: 6 Sep 1996 01:37:00 GMT
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In article <[e-mail]>,
Ron Schoedel <[e-mail]> wrote:
>In article <502mr9$[e-mail]>, [e-mail]
>(Lucerne  Van KESTEREN) wrote:
>
>
>> Ron,
>>
>> Actually, "The Rock of the World" was WRNO's slogan.   KUSW used to refer
>> to themself as "Super Power KUSW".
>>
>> Nancy
>
>Silly me...I stand corrected.  THANK YOU! :)  SuperPower KUSW it was indeed.
>
>Ron
>
>
>- -
>
>'Country Ron' Schoedel                         ) ) * ( (
>                                                  /x\
>Host of "Country Ron's Radio Extravaganza" on     |X|
>Y-101 FM.  From the shores of Lake Superior       |X|
>on the Western U.P.'s #1 Radio station!           |X|

Ron,

Super Power KUSW also used the slogan "From the West to the World"
which could easily be mixed up with WRNO's slogan "The Rock of the World".

73's
Nancy


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 17:19:29 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Tim Yeager)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
Subject: Re: Rush Limbaugh
Date: 11 Sep 1996 01:11:00 GMT
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In article <[e-mail]>,
   [e-mail] (Robert Mitchell) wrote:
>Anyone know where Rush is broadcast on shortwave and heard in Sth Australia.
>Used to listen to him on 640 WGST Atlanta when I lived there until the end
>of 1993. I miss hearing his unique point of view. There is no-one like him
>here in Adelaide though we do have a smaller version of him networked round
>Australia...John Laws...but he ain't like Rush..
>Cheers to all ditto heads out there from Down Under...........
>
>                  robert.mitchell@[e-mail]
>                          fidonet, 3:800/409/0
>                      vk5nz@vk5bpc.#adl.#sa.aus.oc
>
>.... Mason-Dixon Line:  that which separates th' y'all from da youse-guys.


What's the difference between Rush Limbaugh and the Hindenburg??


One's a flaming nazi gasbag, the other's just a dirigible.


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 17:19:31 1996
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From: Newcastle Scanner Group <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
Subject: Scanner & Shortwave Group
Date: Sat, 07 Sep 1996 20:43:30 +1000
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The NEWCASTLE SCANNER GROUP is a hobby group for Scanner and Shortwave
enthusiasts.

To find out more, visit our home page at:
http://users.hunterlink.net.au/nsg

--
_________________________________________________________
NEWCASTLE SCANNER GROUP - HF Shortwave & VHF/UHF Scanners
P.O. Box 728, Charlestown NSW 2290, Australia
http://users.hunterlink.net.au/nsg
email: [e-mail]
Phone: [phone]  Fax: [phone]
_________________________________________________________


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 17:19:31 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Alec Lemas)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
Subject: Re: Shortwave Freq Database
Date: Thu, 12 Sep 96 16:59:08 GMT
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In article <518sv8$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (John Moran)
wrote:
>anyone else have a shortwave frequency database. I have about 6000
>records in mine..lets me enter a frequency and find the user or do a
>search by user and time and get the frequencies..also have HF military
>and aviation frequencies as well as some RTTY listed
>---
>JOHN/PHX ([e-mail]) computing & making good Chemistry!
>-------
>

 Check out Sundstrom's at trs,best I've come across.

 lemas

************************************************
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                        Blues Alive"          |
                  ---------- John Lee Hooker

First choice Email: [e-mail]

Or,try this one: [e-mail]
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From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 17:19:32 1996
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From: jmarvin <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
Subject: Re: Sick and Tired of Christian Radio!!
Date: 7 Sep 1996 01:12:42 GMT
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>>Now this is crazy, absurd.  Anyone implying Tex Marrs is a
>>racist or an

Tex Mars? I thought Tex Mars was a county music singer!


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 17:19:33 1996
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Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
Subject: Re: Sick and Tired of Christian Radio!!
Date: Sat, 7 Sep 1996 09:34:35 -0400
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On 7 Sep 1996, jmarvin wrote:

> >>Now this is crazy, absurd.  Anyone implying Tex Marrs is a
> >>racist or an
>
> Tex Mars? I thought Tex Mars was a county music singer!
>
> Jay i think the guy was saying texe marrs.














Thomas J. Penton
[e-mail]
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even stranger land



From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 17:19:34 1996
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From: wickies@%1:2619/211.9 (wickies@%1:2619/211.9)
Date: 03 Sep 96 11:43:21
Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
Subject: Re: Sick and Tired of Christian Radio!!
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To: wickies@%1:2619/211.9%12:320/100.666
From: wickies@
Subject: Re: Sick and Tired of Christian Radio!!
Organization: IBM Zurich Research Laboratory

In <4vvmal$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Bernie Rataj) writes:
>In article <4vsnuc$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Christophe
r
Saunders) wrote:
>>If you don't like WWCR, then you don't have to listen to it.
>
>On the other hand, you never know where you'll find it next...
>
>Bernie
>
>
>--
>Bernie Rataj     [e-mail]    qth://toronto.on.ca
>Member: Ontario DX Association, Tsuruoka Canadian Budokai
>
Hi
   Since lots of people seem to be arguing about this topic, can someone send
me a list of these Christian radio Stations, so I too could then enjoy these
broadcasts.

Thanks in advance


Chris Wickland
All things are possible to him who beleives
CSO TECH SUPPORT SPECIALIST
IBM
[e-mail]


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From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 17:19:35 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Glen L. Roberts)
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jmarvin <[e-mail]> wrote:

>>>I agree.  The Christian radio station I hate the most is that
>>>pile of right-wing Cr_p WWCR.  Those people make me sick.  Do
>>>you think god

>WWCR, WNOR, and others like it are in violation of the
>Smith-Mundit Act. Why the FCC won't do anything about it is
>beyond me. Maybe their scared?

Why not listen to the Net Connection Radio Show, Sundays at
2pm/est on WWCR: 9,475 khz.

Funny thing about the show is that somehow, we don't expouse
any religion... except maybe "Net Religion"! hahahha!


The Stalker's Home Page -- What the hell? Are you listed? Netspy
http://pages.ripco.com:8080/~glr/stalk.html
The Best Place to Promote your Web Site:
http://pages.ripco.com:8080/~glr/mall



From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 17:19:36 1996
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Subject: Re: Sick and Tired of Christian Radio!!
Date: 8 Sep 1996 02:48:11 GMT
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Ha, Tim I got you!!

"When you are at the North Pole - everyone else is a Southener!"

The John Birchers are naive and good people.. The org. is somewhat like a chur
ch,
"Amen, Brother" some women will moan.. Their religion is more concerned with t
he
Devil - those evil Illuminati - who worship Lucifer. We MUST oppose them!
They sell good books, also. However they will NEVER let you know, what makes
Communism tick.

Try to locate Robert Conquest's book: "The Great Terror", the [US] Senate Inte
rnal
Security Subcommittee's report: "The Human Cost of Soviet Communism" [1970] by
 the
same author. The same Subcommittee's "The Human Cost of Communism in China" by

[mostly] Dr.Richar L. Walker et al [1971].

35 to 45 millons for the Soviet Death Camps, 34 to 62 millons for RED China [a
 MOST
favored partner today] are the MINIMUM numbers.. Add the "Russian civil" war,
the
"Winter War" [with Finnland, these military losses STILL classified!], WW2, Ko
rea,
Vietnam, Cambodia [Mr. Nice Guy Pot Pol] the numbers ADD UP!

What is the REAL number is we will never know.

BTW Saskatoon is a real nice town. Used to hang out there last Nov. /Dec.
[Coldest place where I've ever been].
--

Denes S. Varady,  N3NV




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On Sat, 7 Sep 1996, Thomas J. Penton wrote:

> On 7 Sep 1996, jmarvin wrote:
>
> > >>Now this is crazy, absurd.  Anyone implying Tex Marrs is a
> > >>racist or an
> >
> > Tex Mars? I thought Tex Mars was a county music singer!
> >
> > Jay i think the guy was saying texe marrs.
>

Texx Marrs is a Christian fundamentalist who hosts weekly one-hour talk
shows called "(A) World of Prophecy" on WWCR or WHRI. It is not racist or
anti-semitic., tends to be politically oriented such as the Christian
Coalition, but from a conspiratorial viewpoint. On his show I learned
about the Mena operation and the Clintons' lesbiarchy. Problem is,
whenever I hear his name, I think of a candy bar full of nuts.




From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 17:19:39 1996
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From: Mark Gingrich <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
Subject: Re: Sick and Tired of Christian Radio!!
Date: 10 Sep 1996 12:47:36 GMT
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Proving once again that he can stick his foot in his mouth with the
best of them, Dan Morisseau ([e-mail]) wrote:

>      Luckily for Jay,one doesn't have to SPELL to work in radio. It is the
> "Smith-Mundt Act"; and in the grammatical sense in which you are using the
> word, it is spelled "they're".  You want the second person plural NOT the
> possessive case here. Hominyms are such a terrible bitch aren't they, Jay?


Hey, folks, here's your rec.radio.shortwave Contest of the Week [TM].
How many spelling, grammatical, punctuation -- and factual -- errors can
you find in Dan's reply above?  (Hint: Assuming standard American English,
I count at least six, including one factual error.)  The entrant who
identifies the highest total of legitimate blunders wins my entire
collection of QSL cards from "numbers stations" around the world!  (In
case of a tie, a winner will be chosen from the best answer, of 25 words
or less, to the following bonus question: Why was Dan so incompetently
lazy -- or stupid -- not to perform a spell check on his own complaint
about spelling?)

Oh, and here's something you'll rarely see in a Dan Morisseau post in
this newsgroup: an item apropos shortwave listening.

 NBC Port Moresby, Papua New Guinea, 4890 kHz, heard this morning at
 09:30 UTC, in English, fair signal.

--
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
 Mark Gingrich      [e-mail]      San Leandro, California
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 17:19:40 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Lester John Ness)
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Subject: Re: Sick and Tired of Christian Radio!!
Date: 10 Sep 1996 16:39:50 GMT
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Thomas J. Penton ([e-mail]) wrote:

: Les he has even called glenn hauser a lying dog too, what has he got against
: TBN? Just because jan crouch looks like a streetwalker.

        They're not his sort of fundamentalist.  He rejects the "Health
and Wealth"  gospel.  Too, they claim to be saving" folks, while Stair
believes that since we are in the midst of the Tribulation, there is no
more salvation.

--
Lester Ness     [e-mail]


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From: [e-mail] (Lester John Ness)
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Thomas J. Penton ([e-mail]) wrote:
: On 10 Sep 1996, Lester John Ness wrote:
: >     They're not his sort of fundamentalist.  He rejects the "Health
: > and Wealth"  gospel.  Too, they claim to be saving" folks, while Stair
: > believes that since we are in the midst of the Tribulation, there is no
: > more salvation.
:  Less maybe the good brother wants in on the action.

        If he wanted in on the TBN action, why would he spend so much time
insulting potential audience members?  I think he's best seen as a sincere
fanatic.

--
Lester Ness     [e-mail]


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From: jmarvin <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
Subject: Re: Sick and Tired of Christian Radio!!
Date: 6 Sep 1996 19:20:20 GMT
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>>I agree.  The Christian radio station I hate the most is that
>>pile of right-wing Cr_p WWCR.  Those people make me sick.  Do
>>you think god

WWCR, WNOR, and others like it are in violation of the
Smith-Mundit Act. Why the FCC won't do anything about it is
beyond me. Maybe their scared?


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From: [e-mail] (Lester John Ness)
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Subject: Re: Sick and Tired of Christian Radio!!
Date: 5 Sep 1996 12:15:34 GMT
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Ron Schoedel ([e-mail]) wrote:
:
: They are affiliated with some left-wing school in Oregon
: though.

        RFPI broadcasts from the International Peace University in Costa
Rica, which is sponsored by the UN.  But their programming is almost
entirely aimed at US audiences.

--
Lester Ness     [e-mail]


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From: [e-mail] (Lester John Ness)
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Subject: Re: Sick and Tired of Christian Radio!!
Date: 5 Sep 1996 12:17:35 GMT
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Ron Schoedel ([e-mail]) wrote:
: Yes indeed.  If black labor-union-member homosexual vegetarian whales who
: cross-dress and are married to spotted owls are your kind of thing, RFPI
: is for you!
:
: On the other hand, if you are in the slightest above an IQ of say 70, you
: may well be very offended at their programming, which talks down in a very
: condescending way to anyone who is not a card-carrying member of the
: Communist Party USA.

        A bit of exaggeration here.  They broadcast Jim Hightower, "New
Dimensions" and the like.  One unusual program : "Far Right Radio Review."

--
Lester Ness     [e-mail]


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 17:19:45 1996
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From: Larry Russell <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: Sony 2010 Record Problem.
Date: Wed, 11 Sep 1996 12:29:50 -0400
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On Mon, 9 Sep 1996, David Bernazzani wrote:

> in the ON position (as opposed to TIMER) the recordings sound crystal
> clear and strong.  If I let the TIMER operate the unit then the
> recordings are choppy and not listenable at all.  It's as if there
> isn't enough uhmmf out that port in TIMER mode - but I don't see why
> it should be any different.  Same setup, but it only works if the unit


Congrats! You've found Sony's design fault. In the timer mode,
there is 3v DC added to Rec-out audio. Some recorders can't
handle this. I built a .1 uf cap into a patch cord to solve
this problem :

-------------------------
Rec Out Audio Fault

In the programmable timer mode, the 2010 puts 3v DC on the rec out audio.
This is due to some creative wiring, and gives some tape recorders
distorted
audio. The solution is to put a capacitor ( .1 uF ) in series with the +
audio wire to the tape recorder. At least one recorder also required a 10K
resistor across the input to provide a charge path for this capacitor. All
of this can easily be built into a patch cord:


       +   o-------------l l------------------------o   +
                         .1 uF   l
Rec Out                          l 10 K              Tape Mic In
                                 l
           o----------------------------------------o

Label Ends of patch cord after you build it.

-------------------------



From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 17:19:46 1996
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From: H..Caron%1:2619/211.9 (H. Caron%1:2619/211.9)
Date: 03 Sep 96 07:10:43
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Subject: Sound card DSP
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To: H. Caron%1:2619/211.9%12:320/100.666
From: [e-mail] (H. Caron)
Subject: Sound card DSP
Organization: Infobahn Online Services, Montreal, CANADA [phone]

Hi,

Is somebody aware of any DSP software, commercial or shareware, able
to drive a PC sound card, a Soundblaster (MK-4047) in this case.

Thanks for any info.


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From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 17:19:48 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Curt Phillips)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
Subject: Re: SW-100 vs. 7600G
Date: Wed, 04 Sep 1996 21:27:08 GMT
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Aron Felix Gurski <[e-mail]> wrote:
>Tim Sullins wrote:
>> I'm trying to decide between these two Sony portable receivers.  One is
>> twice as large as the other, one is twice as expensive as the other.
>> What I would like to know is there a significant performance difference
>> between these two portables?
[snip]
>Yes there is a significant difference in reception. I have both of them and h
ave
>used them side by side. The SW-100 receives *much* better. This is true both
>for strong signals and for weaker signals. I've done these comparison on days
>when reception was good as well as on days when reception was bad. And, of co
urse,
>if you are thinking of taking the radio with you when travelling, there is *n
o*
>comparison.

  Aron, there was some early talk of problems with the hinge and the
electrical connections through the hinge.

  How long have you had your set?  How has your set held up?  Would you say
your set (particularly the hinge) gets heavy use (say, open and close it
every day), moderate use (open and close it a couple of times per week) or
light use (leave it open most of the time, only close it to take it on
trips, etc)?

  If you've had your set for a while, maybe you and some others can give us
sort of "50,000 mile" reports on the SW-100.

=========== Opinions expressed are solely those of the author ==========
Curt Phillips, CEM KD4YU (ex-WB4LHI)  | They that can give up essential
Chairman, Tar Heel Scanner/SWL Group  | liberty to obtain a little
ARRL Life; QCWA; Raleigh ARS; NRA; AEE| temporary safety deserve neither
Energy/Recycling BBS 704-547-3114     |liberty nor safety. -Ben Franklin
==== [e-mail] ====== [Copyright 1996 All rights reserved]====



From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 17:19:50 1996
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From: "K.Bailey" <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
Subject: Re: SWL with AOR1000xlt & AOR2700?
Date: Thu, 05 Sep 1996 13:46:51 -0500
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> [e-mail] wrote:
>
> >Is there anything that I can listen to with my AOR1000XLT or AOR2700 below
27MHz?
> >Because both of these scanners do not have SSB modes, I guess I am limited
to what I
> >can listen to?
>
> >Thanks in advance.
>
> >Ronnie


I bought a 1000XLT to listen to local police (800MHz) etc. I've been
very impressed with it's shortwave performance. No, it's not as good as
a  shortwave-only receiver, but still impressive considering it's size.
I usually use a mag-mount CB antenna (modified w/ BNC connector) which
gives decent performance for power-house international shortwave
broadcasters AND local public safety departments.HF performance would be
improved a longwire.
Don't expect to do any HF DXing with it, but you can certainly catch the
news from the BBC, Radio Nederlands, Deutsche Welle, etc.
The only disappointment I've had is on plain old Medium Wave AM
broadcasters, I realize the rubber-duck is way off for this, but the
ONLY AM broadcaster I recieve is a 50,000 watt clear channel staion
about 5 miles away (and IT comes in on my computer and telephone,  a
friend -who lives a little closer to it- gets it on his air
conditioner!)


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Subject: testing 123
Date: Thu, 05 Sep 1996 11:05:47 GMT
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Sorry for the posting, I'm having trouble with return address functions...


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Subject: The Boys are back on WWCR
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Patriot Radio News is pleased to announce the return of Eric Cedarstrom
and Robby Noel to WWCR September 30th. @ 6pm pst on 3.215 Sw1


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In article <50ntn5$[e-mail]> Wolverine,
[e-mail] writes:
>I have a Sony ICF-SW10, and when I'am listen radios stations on SW,
>VERY often the signal came higher and then goes lower, it's not the
>same type of signal I have with the local stations, and also have MANY
>interferencies. I also have experienced a very strange thing, which
>is, when I tuning a given station after period of time its not that
>tuning any more, is this normal???!!!!
>
You are experiencing "fading". It affects most shortwave signals to some
degree and MW signals at night. This is because they are being
"reflected" off the ionosphere which are not fixed in position (imagine
looking at  your reflection in a flexible sheet of plastic whilst you are
flexing or wobbling it).


>One probably reply to this is get a real/better radio.
>I already made some research and the best SW radio I find until now
>are the Drake R8A and the KEnwood ??? do not remenber what.
>
>I would like to have some opinions on those radios and any others with
>the same capability. you should considery that those radio will be use
>for being connect to a PC not only to record some of the stations, but
>also because of the digital signals on HF, and others freq's that I
>will try to decode. I'am considering the use of an external antenna so
>any opinion on that it's also welcome.

There are dozens of good receivers around. But do not rush out to buy a
new radio thinking it will eliminate the fading I talked about above.
Some radios are better at coping with fading than others (a good
adjustable agc helps as does synchronous detection). Another important
consideration is the stability and precision of your receiver tuning if
you want successful reception of digital communication modes. I would
recommend that the tuning steps of your receiver be 10Hz or better. I
would also recommend the external antenna - see below.

>
>BTW what's RTTY?
Radio Teletype - an early  digital communications method
>

> I have some problems when I try to record some stations on HF,
>because of interferences from the PC, anyone knows th solution?
>
Your best chances are to use an outdoor antenna. Get your antenna as far
away from your computer or any other source of interference. Make sure
that the lead connecting your antenna to your receiver is made of
screened coaxial cable and that it too is kept away from your computer.
An outdoor antenna will pick up more wanted signal and less from your
computer.

There are ways of reducing the interference emitted by your computer but
they are more technically involved.

Good luck
Steve
Editor Medium Wave News


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Date: Wed, 04 Sep 1996 19:25:00 -0400
From: [e-mail] (Gregory Baker)
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                      This Week's Loggings
                      Gregory Baker, WB3EBO
         QTH: Laurel, Maryland, U.S.A. 76-50 W, 39-02 N

RECEIVERS USED:
A- Sony ICF-2001 with longwire antenna
B- Realistic DX-160 with longwire antenna
C- Car radio, Ford Escort

All times and dates UTC
=================================================================
DATE TIME FREQUENCY RX   STATION/LANG   COUNTRY   PROGRAM   SINPO
-----------------------------------------------------------------
8-23 0122 640       C    3 stations     USA/CBA?  QRM Pie!  223

8-23 0130 640       C    WSM, Nashville, TN, USA  News, mx  45434
     "The Air Castle of the South", Country Music

8-23 0143 5696 USB  A    CAMSLANT, US Cst Gd, VA            333
     Secure Guard Net 51, good evening, Camslant out - this day
     called off search for USMC F-14 crash off Virginia

8-23 0158 11175 USB A    USAF Commo     Various             333
     Hotel 51 working phone patch with McConnell AFB, Kansas.
     At Dulles Airport, Va.  Plane has little capability.

8-24 0145 670       C    WMAQ, Chicago, IL, USA   Sports cll 333
     QRM from R. Rebedele? in Cuba briefly

8-25 0240 6,000     A    R. Habana Cuba           DXer's    53533
     Arnie Coro on using 75-ohm coaxial cable for SWLing.

8-25 0251 6,010     A    R. Canada Int'l -EE-CAN  Music     444
     Now E-mail to [e-mail]

8-25 0259 6,030     A    Voice of Russia-RR  RUS  News      53533

8-25 0309 6,955 USB A    Faint signal             Music     S-1

8-25 0312 8,957 USB A    Some unintelligble tfc

8-25 2001 11,780?   B    HCJB - Japanese          ECU       44544
     "Kimagoyo" played on marimbas

8-25 2003 11,750?   B    Croatian R/ EE & Croat   News      53544
     Some interference from RTTY station

8-25 2010 11,820    B    R.Ext.Espana/SP          Music     54434

8-25 2015 12,095    B    BBC World Svc/EE         News      43544
     Some interference from RTTY station

8-25 2017 12,050    B    R. Cairo            EGY  Music     3 3 3
     Reliable evening program in DC area



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From: [e-mail] (Gregory Baker)
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                      This Week's Loggings                 Page 2
                      Gregory Baker, WB3EBO
         QTH: Laurel, Maryland, U.S.A. 76-50 W, 39-02 N

RECEIVERS USED:
A- Sony ICF-2001 with longwire antenna
B- Realistic DX-160 with longwire antenna
C- Car radio, Ford Escort

All times and dates UTC
=================================================================
DATE TIME FREQUENCY RX   STATION/LANG   COUNTRY   PROGRAM   SINPO
-----------------------------------------------------------------
8-25 2030 11,880    B    RAI, Italian   ITA  ID, Freq, nx   33433

8-25 2036 11,830    B    ????, Chinese?      Music          53533

8-25 2038 11,820    B    WEWN, English  Ala., USA Mass      44534
     Praying for Mother Teresa and Mother Angelica

8-25 2050 11,840    B    V. of Russia, EE, RUS    Story rdg 34433

8-27 0044 1210      C    WPTZ, Philadelphia  USA  Sports    45434
     "Papa Jo Show"

8-29 0002 1550      C    CBE, Windsor, Ont.  CAN  News      45354

8-31 2257 11232 USB A    Canforce Trenton    CAN  Ute       3 3 3
     Trenton giving 0100-0300 Ft. Lauderdale forecast to CANFORCE
     3979.  Concern is VFR.  Haiti is destination of plane.

8-31 2255 11175 USB A    USAF, McDill AFB, Fla    Ute/mil   2 3 3
     CODY 226 working McDILL asking phone patch to a Cleveland
     commercial number (216-267-XXXX).  Advised to contact at
     131.425 MHz.  Weather for Cleveland at 0130Z.

     2304                OFFUT                    Ute/Mil   3 3 3
     Calling MAINSAIL.  EAM timestamp M2ULNE.  Message M2ULNE
     AGYYYV44IGADUD4RS6GP.  Out 2035

     2306, McDILL and CODY 226 attempt to continue contact.
     However, MAINSAIL starts in, with touch-tone beeps at the end
     of each message group: M2ULNE, stand by . . . M2ULNE, stand
     by . . . M2ULNE AGYYYV4IGADUD4RI6GP, Mainsail, out.

     2308 McDILL gave up.








From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 17:19:56 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Robert Joosten)
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Date: Mon, 09 Sep 1996 07:56:28 GMT
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Mark Veldhuis wrote:

>> The last evenings, I have a UNID African station on 4792,4 kHz. Heard in
>> Vernacular and French. Could not read the entire ID, "Vous et a l'ecoute
>de la Radio Nationale .......".
>> Can anyone help?
>Several DXers E-mailed me tonight, stating this is RTM Bamako, Mali. I
>checked 5995 kHz., and indeed it was//. No other frequencies were heard...

Hello Mark
I also discovered that 4835 was not on the air the last two days. Same
story for the 4783v freq.

I think this is the (welknown to me) 'almost yearly' change. After a
few days, they will be back with booming signals on the regular
channels. It noticed these changes too two years back. The only
difference now is the new frequency.

73!
Robert
>Mark.
>




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rote:
>Is a monitor included as well?

Yeah,right.

 lemas

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VOA Covers U.S. Strike on Iraq

Washington, D.C., September 3, 1996 -- Coverage of this morning's U.S.
strike against Iraq has dominated Voice of America broadcasts throughout
the day today. Since the story broke early this morning, all 52 VOA
language services -- including Arabic to the Middle East and Farsi to
Iran --- have featured the story as their lead news item.

VOA's Arabic branch broadcast the first reports of the strike at 3:00
a.m. EDT shortly after the official U.S. announcement and continued
updates throughout the day.  At 8:00 a.m. EDT, the branch broadcast to
the Middle East, including Iraq, a simultaneous Arabic-language
translation of President Clinton's news conference. VOA also broadcast
the press conference live in English and several other languages,
including Farsi, Spanish and Portuguese. At 9:00 a.m. EDT, both English
and Arabic covered Secretary of Defense Perry's news conference.

VOA correspondents in Amman and Cairo reported on Arab, Israeli, and
Kurdish reaction.  VOA's London Bureau covered responses from Britain,
France, and Germany.

Interviews throughout the day gave perspective to the coverage.  VOA
Arabic spoke with officials from the two opposing Kurdish factions.
VOA's Kurdish Service interviewed Salih Bereddin, General Secretary of
the Kurdish Popular Union Party in Syria; the President of Kurdish
National Congress; and representatives of the Patriotic Union of
Kurdistan and the Kurdish Democratic Party. Arabic Branch attempts to
reach Iraqi officials for comment had been unsuccessful as of midday
today.

VOA broadcasts international, regional, and United States news in 52
languages to an estimated weekly direct audience of 86 million listeners.


For additional information, please contact the Office of External Affairs
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Date: Wed, 04 Sep 1996 19:33:00 -0400
From: [e-mail] (Gregory Baker)
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Hi, Ken!

You were listening to the U.S. Air Force/Navy STRATEGIC COMMAND
broadcasting what is known as an Emergency Action Message.  Most of
these coded messages are dummy messages, but on occasion, an EAM has
resulted in military action or the aborting of a military action ( as
in Haiti).  More later, go ahead and ask, I'm out of time.


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 17:20:00 1996
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From: Mike Chace <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: What are 'number stations'?
Date: Fri, 6 Sep 1996 13:18:19 +0100
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On 6 Sep 1996, zommbee wrote:

> I have read a couple really ingtiquing posts about 'number stations'
> and would like to know more.  What are they?  Who are they?  Where
> are they?  Ok, you get the idea ;>

Try my web pages at

http://itre.uncecs.edu/radio/numbers.html

73,

Mike
****

"I only support two football teams; Bristol Rovers and whoever is playing
Bristol City"



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From: [e-mail] (Andrew Thall)
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Subject: Re: What are 'number stations'?
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Number stations are stations that send sets of numbers that form coded
messages for spys.  They use very complicated algorithms and are
one-use only codes which make them almost impossible to break.

Most send the numbers using morse code, but I have heard some using
voice (mostly in Spanish).



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From: [e-mail] (tyler)
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Subject: what is SYNCHRONOUS DETECTION AND ZERO BEAT?
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Ok, Ok, I've been interested in SW listening for a while now and my only
radios are a Zenith Trans-oceanic and another tube type communicaitons
receiver.  What is synchronous detection and zero beat?  I've seen the terms
used here and there, but never really knew what they were.  thanks in advance.

 73s tyler

By the way, anybody want to buy the Trans-oceanic?



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tyler wrote:
>
> Ok, Ok, I've been interested in SW listening for a while now and my only
> radios are a Zenith Trans-oceanic and another tube type communicaitons
> receiver.  What is synchronous detection and zero beat?  I've seen the terms
> used here and there, but never really knew what they were.  thanks in advanc
e.
>  73s tyler
>
> By the way, anybody want to buy the Trans-oceanic?

The short answer:

Zero beat is when your BFO is on the same apparent frequency as the
signal you are listening to.

Synchronous detection is basically a product detector that automatically
locks its BFO to the carrier of the AM station you are receiving.

The long answer:

Zero beat describes the condition in which your local beat frequency
oscillator (or BFO, usually used to demodulate CW or SSB or other
suppressed carrier modes) is on exactly the same frequency as the carrier
of the signal you are receiving. This usually happens in your receiver's
final intermediate frequency stage.

The term "zero beat" comes from the fact that if your BFO is on a
different frequency from the received signal, it will produce a "beat
note" or mixing product equal to the frequency difference. When the two
signals are on the same frequency, there is no beat note; hence "zero
beat."

When you use a product detector and an SSB filter, and your BFO is tuned
to zero beat an AM signal, it is called ECSS or exalted carrier single
sideband reception. This can reduce interference which is predominantly
on one sideband, and it virtually eliminates the distortion from
selective fading common to diode detectors.

An even better way to demodulate an AM (or DSB) signal is with a
synchronous detector. This is like a product detector in that a local
carrier is used to replace the transmitted carrier (actually, with a
conventional synchronous detector, transmitting a pilot carrier 10 or 15
dB below the peak level is enough; and with a Costas-type sync detector
no carrier need be transmitted at all, and DSB suppressed carrier may be
used), but instead of having to manually zero-beat your BFO, the detector
automatically locks on to the correct frequency and phase.

One fascinating aspect of synchronous detectors is that with the proper
phase shift networks you can enjoy an effect like "selectable sideband"
and reject one sideband or the other _of the interference_ while still
receiving the desired energy from _both sidebands_. The Sony 2010 has
this feature. It works because two demodulators are used, an I ("in
phase") detector and a Q ("quadrature," or 90 degrees out of phase)
detector. When receiving an AM or DSB signal, the I detector output
consists of the desired signal and any interference present, and the Q
detector output, for mathematical reasons too complicated to go into
here, consists of interference only. So the phase shift network's
cancellation/reinforcement process works only on the noise! Not every
sync detector has this feature.

Since it uses both sidebands of the transmitted AM signal, synchronous
detection has a 3 dB signal-to-noise advantage over ECSS (Yes, this is
true even though the filter is twice as wide: the sidebands are in phase
and the noise is random phase).

With all good wishes,

--


Kevin Alfred Strom

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From: [e-mail] (Andrew Thall)
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Subject: Re: what is SYNCHRONOUS DETECTION AND ZERO BEAT?
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Zero beat  refers to making a receiver center itself exactly on
another signal.  The technique was frequently used in Amateur Radio
when one had a separate receiver and transmitter.  As the two variable
frequency oscillators approached each other's frequency, you would
hear a pulsating sound.  The closer the frequencies were, the slower
the pulse rate.  When the pulse rate was at zero, then the two vfo's
were exactly on the same frequency.

I'll leave someone else to talk about synchronous dectection.

WS7J



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From: [e-mail] (John Kodis)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
Subject: Re: What is the best FM 88-108 MHz receiver?
Date: 5 Sep 1996 20:20:16 -0400
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In article <[e-mail]>,
John Rethorst <[e-mail]> wrote:
>In article <50gl18$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] ([yr{s,
>Pertti Olavi) wrote:
>>
>> What is your opinion regarding the best FM receiver?
>>
>I have no experience with it, but the Day Sequerra Reference FM Tuner, at
>about $3700 here, has been highly recommended.

Yeah, the Day-Sequerra is okay for an economy model, but I'd also look
at the newly introduced model from Fanfare at around $10K.  More
expensive, sure, but then it costs more, so it's got to be better,
right?

Also, some folks like the old Marantz units, but I think that they
just like the looks of the "way cool" green tuning light tube on the
front.

-- John Kodis.

PS: this really is a good question.  I hope that someone out there can
provide a serious answer.




From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 17:20:06 1996
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From: [yr{s,.Pertti.Olavi%1:2619/211.9 ([yr{s, Pertti Olavi%1:2619/211.9)
Date: 03 Sep 96 02:59:52
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Subject: What is the best FM 88-108 MHz receiver?
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To: [yr{s, Pertti Olavi%1:2619/211.9%12:320/100.666
From: [e-mail] ([yr{s, Pertti Olavi)
Subject: What is the best FM 88-108 MHz receiver?
Organization: University of Turku, Finland

Hello

I live at a very difficult location for FM DX. I have tested
several stereo receivers for FM DX and there are differences
between them. Many of these have been sensitive enough but none
 of the types I have tested have been able to handle with
the strong signals originating from a nearby mast with 6x60 kw
FM transmitters. I have heard some 450 stations in about 30 countries
from my QTH. I would like to hear more (and I will) but the changes
would be better without those intermodulation products covering
otherwise empty frequencies.

What is your opinion regarding the best FM receiver?

Best wishes from Finland!

Pertti



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From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 17:20:08 1996
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From: [e-mail]
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Subject: Re: What is the best FM 88-108 MHz receiver?
Date: 6 Sep 1996 14:17:35 GMT
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In <50gl18$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] ([yr{s, Pertti Olavi) wri
tes:
>Hello
>
>I live at a very difficult location for FM DX. I have tested
>several stereo receivers for FM DX and there are differences
>between them. Many of these have been sensitive enough but none
> of the types I have tested have been able to handle with
>the strong signals originating from a nearby mast with 6x60 kw
>FM transmitters. I have heard some 450 stations in about 30 countries
>from my QTH. I would like to hear more (and I will) but the changes
>would be better without those intermodulation products covering
>otherwise empty frequencies.
>
>What is your opinion regarding the best FM receiver?
>
>Best wishes from Finland!
>
Pertti,
        I live in Milwaukee Wisconsin where most of the TV and FM transmitters

have been located in one park.  It's handy for general viewers/listeners since
a rotator isn't required in the area.  I live way too close to this park, howe
ver,
and I wanted to receive Chicago FM stations.  The distance is 90 miles (145 km
) so
there is plenty of signal strength were the receiver not clobbered by overload
and intermod.  The two best that I was able to try out were the Onkyo 9090 II
and the Sony ST-S730ES.  The Onkyo may be the better tuner, but not by much,
and I settled on the Sony since it was about half the price (US$400 vs. US$800
) and
I favored the sounds it made when it gave up on marginal signals.
        Hopefully, you can find one or the other of these in Finland to evalua
te for
your needs.

--scott

[e-mail]



From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 17:20:09 1996
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From: llafrin @cp.duluth.mn.us (Lance LaFrinier)
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Subject: Re: What to buy?
Date: 10 Sep 1996 01:12:45 GMT
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In article <[e-mail]>, Thomas Minder <[e-mail]> s
ays:
>
>I have been away from the hoby for almost 18 years and have decided to
>get back into it.
>The problem is I have not kept up on info on receivers. I have a Radio
>Shack DX-440, its ok
>for casual listening but I am looking for something a little more
>sensitive. I have narrowed
>my search down to 2 models, The Grundig Sat 700 and the Sony ICF2010.
>The only negitive thing
>I have read about either of the two is that the Sony has a very
>sensitive front end, and is prone
>to damage by static if not grounded properly.
>
>I would like to here from people that have either of these receivers.

I have owned a 2010 since 1986, and it has been back in for repairs 3
times...last month I lost the front end durring an electrical storm (I
believe I had a power surge, I don't know as I wasn't home at the time,
and the reciever was off).

I am not fixing the 2010 again, and I won't buy another.

Lance


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 17:20:10 1996
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From: [e-mail](Edward Chaban)
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Subject: What's wrong with Voice of Russia?
Date: 10 Sep 1996 04:46:05 GMT
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Does anyone have a good set of times and frequencies for Voice of
Russia?  I've been having problems finding them here near San Jose, CA.
Was getting good hits on 9825, 9895, 9835 and 41M Band too.  Lately,
nothing but dead air.

Yes, I've tried all the freqs and times on their WWW site
(http://www.vor.ru)

Thanks!

-Ed



From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 17:20:11 1996
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From: Richard Buckby <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: When Closes Bbc Hong Kong
Date: Sun, 8 Sep 1996 10:27:29 +0100
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In article <[e-mail]>, Guido Schotmans <Guido.Schotma
[e-mail]> writes
>Hello,
>
>Has anybody already exact information about a closing date of BBC
>Hong Kong ?
>
>73 de Guido

============

Hello Guido,

        Well, as it happens I was in the BBC Hong Kong relay station
last Wednesday!  It has been an ambition of mine to go to HK for a long
time and I finally made it.  My wife and 2 daughters and I got back last
night and we are still suffering from the 7 hour time lag plus catching
up with all the mail, the weeds and the lawn mowing, but in the next
couple of days I intend to write a little article about my visit to the
station and will post it here.

        To answer your question, there is no decision yet about the
close down date, as it depends on the commissioning of the new Thailand
relay, but it has to close by the end of October.  The whole site has to
dismantled and returned to a "green field site" by the Spring of next
year, this is a condition of the lease apparently.

        Miles Ashton is the manager of the station and he promised that
he would e-mail me when the close down date is known.  Meanwhile, stand
by for an article about the station.

        Now, where is that lawn mower........?

                73,  Richard Buckby



From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 17:20:12 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Anon)
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Subject: Where are Bill Cooper, Chuck Harder, and Tom Valentine?
Date: Mon, 09 Sep 1996 05:07:59 GMT
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Does anybody know where I can find "For The People" with Chuck Harder?
Also, I understand that Bill Cooper had a falling out with WWCR and
moved on.  Where?  Lastly, I heard that Tom Valantine may have retired
and folded up his "Radio Free America" operation.  Can someone point
out these guys' current whereabouts?



From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 17:20:13 1996
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From: "Denes S. Varady" <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
Subject: Re: Where are Bill Cooper, Chuck Harder, and Tom Valentine?
Date: 9 Sep 1996 01:16:27 GMT
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[e-mail] (Anon) wrote:
>Does anybody know where I can find "For The People" with Chuck Harder?
>Also, I understand that Bill Cooper had a falling out with WWCR and
>moved on.  Where?  Lastly, I heard that Tom Valantine may have retired
>and folded up his "Radio Free America" operation.  Can someone point
>out these guys' current whereabouts?
>

FEMA "Emergency Relocations-Reeducational" Camp, Ft. Indiantown Gap, PA.

Just JOKING! - time is not right yet..
--

Denes S. Varady,  N3NV




From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 17:20:14 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Len Anderson)
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Subject: Re: WHICH WOULD YOU BUY?  Dra
Date: Thu,  5 Sep 1996 23:39:00 GMT
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CA>From: [e-mail] (Caress)
CA>Subject: WHICH WOULD YOU BUY?  Drake R-8, NRD-535D or ?????  HELP!!!!!!!!!!
!

CA>Both radios are priced in the $550-650 (U.S.) price range.  Given the choic
e
CA>which would YOU rather have for BOTH DX-chasing AND extended programme
CA>listening (the White Papers suggest that one should make a choice, the R-8
CA>being the better for long- term programme listening, the NRD being more of
a
CA>pleasure to use for "chasing DX")

I think the NRD is just a bit better looking, all else being equal...:)

---
 * OLX 2.1 * Jacoby & Borg: Prepare to be litigated. Defense is futile


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 17:20:16 1996
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Greetings,
I hope this is of use to you.  Regards, Glenn Hauser



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        WORLD OF RADIO #861 produced Sept 4, 1996 by Glenn Hauser
        *Asia Pacific Network not allowed to broadcast via Thailand; other
background. May use Guam, Saipan, other possible sites named. Vietnam denoun-
ces APN as coming from an amoral country.
        *R. Ulan Bator monitoring on 12085, and 9745 is slightly off.
        *Derivation of the name Paniview, Bulgarian DX bulletin.
        *English SW from Iraq--is there any?
        *V. of Iranian Kordestan heard clearly in Europe.
        *Turkish Polis Radyo seems 24 hours.
        *V. of Tigre Revolution sometimes signs on late.
        *UNITA's VORGAN for Angola resumes previous schedule.
        *Sao Tome pronunciation lesson: repeat after me...
        *RTTY press schedule on shortwave from Morocco, including English.
        *VOM Malta via Russia contradictory schedules.
        *7325 in winter to be an Austrian, not BBC frequency.
        *OEM1XBC ham special in Austria Sept. 13-14.
        *From 50 Hz AC to gamma rays, WOR 861, P-mail and E-mail addresses;
tnx for all the E-mail, some from people only in cyberspace. I pledge not to
treat P-mail contacts as second class citizens; love to fill P. O. Box. I
already suffered from info-overload, but WOR now more timely.
        *Tnx especially for E-mail and internet startup help from Pete
Costello, George Thurman, Charles Mikelson, Mike Gingrich, Kevin Hecht.
        *Columbus Ohio cable dropped WOR Sats 3 pm via WRN, C-SPAN.
        *[These] Rundowns distributed weekly on Fridays more or less.
        *On paper I still publish DXLD and RIB...samples, sub prices.
From Box 1684, Enid OK 73702, USA. Helps support this free program.
        *Lithuania changes frequency for 0030 English.
        *Radio Sweden program lineup.
        *BBC previews: Keep to the Path, Ecological Fightback in Latin
America, Dr Jekyll and Mr Hyde. [I kept saying August, meant September!]
        *RTE pleased with sports special; another Sept. 15 before 1400.
        *New additional time for WOR on WWCR starts Sept. 9, UT Mons 0330
on 5065, very good reception.
        *Media Bypass gets weeknight slot on WWCR; Golden Age of Radio
Theatre new time; new revised program guide on http://www.wwcr.com/
        *CIA Mind Control: essential reading in Sept-Oct Skeptical Inquirer.
        *WRMI new program sked, times for Wavescan, Viva Miami.
        *Hurricane monitoring on VOLMET, hambands.
        *Amateur Radio Newsline may close down in Oct.
        *Miss America special events Sept. 9-14, K2BR, fq ranges.
        *TV tips de gh: Finckle's Fearless 4-week Forecast Sept. 7-8; Twisted
Tales of Felix the Cat--surreal but with cartoon-violence.
        *Radio Shack actually gives away catalogs free after ringing up.
        *Art Bell sometimes goes on 75m after his talkshow.
        *Yachtboy 500 available exclusively from J&R Music in NYC.
        *RCI has resumed Best of Morningside instead of variety of features;
Ideas topic Sept. 12-13.
        *Vance AFB, Enid, has new 1610 kHz station (recording)
        *Mexican book shows XHY-TV Merida moved from ch 3 to ch 2.
        *XERMX confirmed: <[e-mail]>
        *Propagation outlook from Boulder issued Sept. 3.
        *Std disclaimer, and gh apologizes this week for being an eohippus;
P- and E-mail addresses.

        NOTE: These rundowns are not meant to be a substitute for actually
listening to the programs, but to encourage listening, especially by DX
editors for complete details of stories of interest and proper attribution
when quoting. Let me know if you wish to continue receiving them.

        WORSKED update: there is little change to the Aug. 30 edition,
previously distributed, except: the Mon 0330 on 5065 is now more definite;
RFPI has resumed using 7385 but may make a permanent change later; September
edition of MUNDO RADIAL starts Sept. 6 on RN, Sept. 11 on WWCR, probably
Sept. 14 on RFPI (this info as of Sept. 6)     ###


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From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 17:20:16 1996
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From: se127pp <[e-mail]>
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Subject: WRNO still on 7355?
Date: Fri, 6 Sep 1996 19:58:15 -0400
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x-no-archive: yes

Haven't heard WRNO during evening hours on 7355khz




From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 17:20:17 1996
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From: "Thomas R. Sundstrom" <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
Subject: Re: WRTV Hand Book web page?
Date: Sat, 07 Sep 1996 09:11:10 -0400
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Veniamin Medvedev wrote:
>
> Some time ago I have heard that World Radio TV Handbook iwas planning its
> own web page. Does this page (with address) exist??

Not yet. All good things come to those who wait. Planning is under way,
but it takes a back seat to the work involved in the print edition of
the WRTH. You'll see it announced in this newsgroup, and on our "News
You Can Use" page.

Tom Sundstrom, W2XQ
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From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 17:20:18 1996
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From: "Boyd Roberson II" <[e-mail]>
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Subject: www based SW freq-lists?
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There any *good* SW freq-lists on the www?

--
DFW Texas, USA.
http://www.startext.net/homes/koogles



From [e-mail] Thu Sep 12 17:20:19 1996
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From: [e-mail] (NoahNoah1)
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Subject: Zenith Trans- Oceanic
Date: 10 Sep 1996 10:13:56 -0400
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i have a zenith trans-oceanic model 8goo5.does someone know what year this
radio was made? please reply to [e-mail]
       thak you noah1


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 19 18:56:06 1996
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[e-mail] wrote:
>
> Turn a measly $5 into $50,000!

They will never learn...


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 19 18:56:06 1996
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[e-mail] wrote:
>
> I HAVE 1 2510 10 METER RADIO FOR SALE
> RADIO NEED NEW FINALS FULLY MOD WITH CHIP SWITCH MOD
> WILL SELL FOR 50 DOLLARS OR BEST OFFER
  Hi,
     I am interseted in your rig, What's the outside look like?
  Drop me a line and give me your Phone No and I will give you
  a call.
    Thanks,
            Boyd


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 19 18:56:07 1996
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From: [e-mail] (GdI)
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Subject: 800 mhz
Date: Mon, 16 Sep 1996 22:24:33 GMT
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I have a full scan 800 mhz scanner and when I scan the 800 area I am
getting one side of the conversation.  I have a pretty good antenna.
I also have a hand held scanner with the GRE Box to grab the 800
band and this used to work now it is doing the same thing half of
the conversation.  Why?



From [e-mail] Thu Sep 19 18:56:08 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Stephane Vuillard)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Fran=E7ais!?=
Date: Mon, 16 Sep 1996 19:56:57 +0200
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TEX <[e-mail]> wrote (Θcrivait)á:

> Moi je viens de Montreal, je ne sais pas qu est ce que tu veut dire
> par francais (la langue parlee ou la nationnalite

Francais ... Les frΘquences ne sont pas les mΩmes bien sur.
Bref, je ne parlais pas de la langue mais du pays ...

> Est-ce qu'il y a des amateurs de balayeur de frΘquences franτais sur
> les newsgroup??? J'aimerais avoir certaines informations????

J'ai un scanner (ou balayeur de frΘquences) ...
Je ne sais pas si je pourrais rΘpondre α tes questions (que voulais tu
savoir) ...

Amicalement

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From [e-mail] Thu Sep 19 18:56:10 1996
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From: Bob Schwerdtman <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Advice needed on Pro-2035
Date: Sun, 15 Sep 1996 18:11:54 -0500
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Eric wrote:
>
> In article <51d5fe$[e-mail]>,
> [e-mail](Linda Hyman) wrote:
>
> > My local Radio Shack has the Pro-2035 scanner on a clearance sale.
> > What experience does anyone have with this model?  It has a good price
> > tag and I am interested in buying it.  Please advise on its quality.
> > TIA.
>
> Hi Linda,
>
>    I've had a Pro-2035 for a year now and I and the bottom line is that I
> like it and I am very happy with it.  There are a few negatives. The
> channel auto store for one (the scanner searches a frequency range and
> automatically stores active frequencies) will store the same frequency
> more than once.  It has 100 channels per bank, that's a little
> overwhelming especially if you want to organize the banks by catagory.
> What makes this frustrating for instance is if you only program a given
> bank with amateur radio frequencies and you've used only 50 channels, you
> have manually lock out the remaining 50 otherwise it will scan through
> those.  I think the new Pro-2042 has taken care of these problems.  But I
> don't think these are big enough problems to pass up a good deal.

It also depends on the clearance price. If it is over $300.00 then a
Bearcat 9000 might be more attractive.


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 19 18:56:11 1996
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From: Andy Harcus <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: Amusing dispatch...
Date: Sat, 14 Sep 1996 18:24:37 -0500
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I'm not a scanner listener, I dispatch for a living but a couple
of years ago I worked for a central dispatch north of Minneapolis
and one of my colleagues got a bit tounge tied.  She had a call of
juveniles throwing snowballs over the interstate highway.

She called the single person squad for the sparsely populated city
and he acknowleged her.

Dispatcher: "one-robert fourty one check on juveniles throwing
             snowmobiles over the I35, near the such and such
             overpass"

Long pause

Finally the squad responds "Errrrr you want me to go alone on that?"

The dispatcher looked around the center and couldn't see anyone, we
were all rolling on the floor.


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 19 18:56:12 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Helmut Hass)
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From [e-mail] Thu Sep 19 18:56:13 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Matthew)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: ANYONE HAVE NY FREQ'S??
Date: Sat, 14 Sep 1996 22:07:45 GMT
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I am new at this, just bought my first scanner

can anyone e-me some NY freq's Police, fire, etc

Thanks in advance

matt



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From: [e-mail] (Clay Irving)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: ANYONE HAVE NY FREQ'S??
Date: 15 Sep 1996 10:19:50 -0400
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In <51f00q$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Matthew) writes:

>I am new at this, just bought my first scanner

>can anyone e-me some NY freq's Police, fire, etc

Try: Scanning Reference/Frequencies by State/New York
     http://www.panix.com/~clay/scanning/frequencies/states/ny/

--
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From [e-mail] Thu Sep 19 18:56:15 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Jason Lewis)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: AOR AR2700 - Do you like yours?
Date: Mon, 16 Sep 1996 01:29:49 GMT
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On 15 Sep 1996 23:41:39 GMT, Jon Van Allen <[e-mail]>
wrote:

>Hi,
>
>I've been toying with buying the AR-2700, I would appreciate a few hands
>on comments before taking the plunge. MT didn't give it a very good review
>a few months back, but that never stopped me from buying anything!
>
>Thanks in advance for any comments,
>
>Jon
>

Well I just purchased an AR-2700 last week and really enjoy it... For
the price $209 ya get 100-1.3 range, computer control, 500 channels..
Not bad..

Also the Cell blocking can be restored via computer interface &
software..

The irony is that I bought mine from EEB in Virgina last week and it
came unblocked (Full 800Mhz) right out of the box....

As of 9/12 they had around 35 units left..





                                                - Jason Lewis

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From [e-mail] Thu Sep 19 18:56:16 1996
From: [e-mail] (Jonathan Clough)
Subject: Re: AOR-2700 Opinions??
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In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail]  writes:


> > I was talking ot a dealer who was selling foem for $210, and he said that
AOR
> > has a new 2900 coming out very soon, and that will replace the 2700.
> > Personally, I'm waiting for the AOR Tornado....It's out in Japan, but unde
r a
> > different name.

It would appear that the AR2900 will remain "vaporware" and will not be part
of the AOR portfolio.  The receiver may however appear under an alternative
OEM name (Camnis, Trident, Albrecht or something else perhaps).

> So what is the AOR Tornado? And what are tthe specs.

The Tornado will be the AR16 that would appear to be manufactured for AOR by
Standard. It is not yet available in Japan although the Standard AX400 is.
If "rumours" turn into hard facts then the AR16 is a development of the
AX400 but with several additonal "AOR specific" features and compatbility
with the Scout.

The AX400 is also available outside Japan under the Diamond Antenna brand
name Welz as the WS-1000. It is a very small unit powered from just 2 x AA
batteries and has coverage from 500KHz - 1300MHz.


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From [e-mail] Thu Sep 19 18:56:17 1996
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From: Nick Marsh <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: alt.radio.scanner,rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: AR 2700 Computer Interface
Date: Fri, 13 Sep 1996 07:07:17 -0300
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Dennis Smith wrote:
>
> I am having a problem finding anyone in the LA area that carries the
> serial interface cabling to connect the AR2700 scanner to a computer
> serial port.  Can anyone help me with the name and telephone number of
> radio or electronics companies that sell the interface I am looking
> for either in the Los Angeles area, or elsewhere in the US?  Thanks.


You need to use an interface made for the 2700. Try the following:

EEB in VA has the INF8000 interface $89
CAT in LA has the Uni-Versatile interface $99
OPTO in FL has the OPTOLINX for $126

 all of the above advertise in Popular Communications Mag.

Or you can build your own from a single MAX232 or MAX233 IC chip for
about $15 if you are handy with stuff like that.

Good Luck

Nick


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 19 18:56:19 1996
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Jason Lewis wrote:
>
> On Thu, 12 Sep 1996 22:13:21 GMT, [e-mail] (Dennis Smith)
> wrote:
>
> >I am having a problem finding anyone in the LA area that carries the
> >serial interface cabling to connect the AR2700 scanner to a computer
> >serial port.  Can anyone help me with the name and telephone number of
> >radio or electronics companies that sell the interface I am looking
> >for either in the Los Angeles area, or elsewhere in the US?  Thanks.
> >
>
> Well you can get the AOR part from a mail order outfit about $89.. Or
> you can pick up the OPTILYNX from OPTOELECTRONICS for about $129.
> Or build your own for around $10... Check out the links below for
> info..
>
> OPTOELECTRONICS
>         http://www.optoelectronics.com
>
> EEB  (Mail order house)
>         http://www.access.digex.net/~eeb/eeb.html
>
> GROVE (Mail order house)
>         http://www.grove.net/
>
> AOR 2700 Home Page  (Includes plans to build interface)
>         http://www.mv.com/users/wje/aor.html
>
>                                                 - Jason Lewis
>

One other option, the CAT-232 interface from CAT:

http://www.scancat.com/


'73 de JIM N2ZZ


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From: [e-mail] (Jason Lewis)
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On Thu, 12 Sep 1996 22:13:21 GMT, [e-mail] (Dennis Smith)
wrote:

>I am having a problem finding anyone in the LA area that carries the
>serial interface cabling to connect the AR2700 scanner to a computer
>serial port.  Can anyone help me with the name and telephone number of
>radio or electronics companies that sell the interface I am looking
>for either in the Los Angeles area, or elsewhere in the US?  Thanks.
>

Well you can get the AOR part from a mail order outfit about $89.. Or
you can pick up the OPTILYNX from OPTOELECTRONICS for about $129.
Or build your own for around $10... Check out the links below for
info..

OPTOELECTRONICS
        http://www.optoelectronics.com

EEB  (Mail order house)
        http://www.access.digex.net/~eeb/eeb.html

GROVE (Mail order house)
        http://www.grove.net/

AOR 2700 Home Page  (Includes plans to build interface)
        http://www.mv.com/users/wje/aor.html






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From [e-mail] Thu Sep 19 18:56:21 1996
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From: Jeffrey Miller <[e-mail]>
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Date: Wed, 11 Sep 1996 01:31:12 -0400
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Hi all,

Does anyone out there know if there is a way for the AR1000 to set
delay's only on certain channels ie Channels 1-10 and 15 but not 11-14
instead of all or nothing..
.
Also how do I disable the delay.. I can't find it in the manual that
I received (apparently not the full one).

Thanks,
Jeff..

[e-mail]


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 19 18:56:21 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Donald Gray)
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Brian Dragtstra <[e-mail]> wrote:

>NATHAN KEITH wrote:
>>
>> Can anyone advise where to purchase a case for the AR8000 unit?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> NathanWhere did you buy your scanner? Ask them!!!

>Don't waste space on this server for those questions, please.

Seems to me to be a litigimate scanner request!


Donald Gray
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From [e-mail] Thu Sep 19 18:56:22 1996
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In <[e-mail]>, Brian Dragtstra <[e-mail]> writes:
..snip...
>> Thanks,
>> NathanWhere did you buy your scanner? Ask them!!!
>Don't waste space on this server for those questions, please.

I vote we create a new newsgroup.....something like.....hmmm, let's see...
alt.idiots.postings.....

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From [e-mail] Thu Sep 19 18:56:23 1996
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From: Gregory Ottria <[e-mail]>
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I just got my 8000 back from EDCO and they had to replace the whole IF board.
 The
new board has different parts on it than the old board.  Also the "800" dosen'
t seem
to have as much audio clipping.  The Murate Erie filter (F3) inthe old board i
s a
CFWM455F with the letter "U" under the 455F and the new IF board has a CFWM455
F BUT
it has a "V" under the 455F.  I think it has to do with the skirting of the
filter(What ever skirting is).  Anyway the "800" is much much better. There is
 also
some other differencies that I noticed, such as in the new IF board there is a
 diode
between "Y1" AND "L1" .  Anybody have any ideas???
--



Greg Ottria, KE6PTP
Castro Valley, California
E-Mail: [e-mail]
1996 Sea Doo GTX


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 19 18:56:24 1996
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From: [e-mail] (David Bernazzani)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Attenuator Use on Scanners
Date: Mon, 16 Sep 1996 02:12:58 GMT
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I got to thinking about the attenuator feature on my scanner.  The
manual states that you use this to stop strong signals from
overloading the front end of your receiver.  I typically use it so
that a weak signal from a nearby town doesn't trip my squelch while a
strong signal of the same frequency in my town will (I don't have
CTCSS on my unit).  I typically keep the signal set on 0db (no
Attenuation) and I seem to pick up both weak signals strong signals
fine.  I don't know if strong local signals are "overloading" my front
end.  Would I be able to tell?  Can I damage the scanner if I don't
set the ATT on each channel I feel is "local" or strong?  I assume
that unless I was really close to a powerful transmitter, there would
be no problem with leaving the ATT set to 0db.  I know some scanners
don't have this feature and some only have an ON/OFF toggle (or
switch) which does 10 or 15db of Attenuation for all channels.  For
these types of units, I assume most people leave it set to 0db and
never think about it.

Thanks in advance and take care,

Dave Bernazzani



From [e-mail] Thu Sep 19 18:56:25 1996
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From: Gary Pacheco <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: BC-2500-XLT For Sale
Date: Sat, 14 Sep 1996 22:00:10 -0400
Organization: Esper Systems
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I have a Bearcat 2500-XLT Handheld Scanner for sale, it is in like new
condition with all manuals and original packaging $225.00 I'll pay
shipping in USA. E-Mail if interested.
                                        [e-mail]


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 19 18:56:26 1996
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From: [e-mail]
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: BC200xlt for sale
Date: Sat, 14 Sep 1996 20:12:06 GMT
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Bearcat 200 XLT handheld scanner for sale

Great condition
Comes with battery, charger, manual, stock antenna, and antenna cut
for 800 MHz band.
This one is a virgin...no mods done!  Date code=O1 1C

Asking $200 and I'll pay UPS COD shipping charges anywhere in CONUS.

E-mail me at [e-mail]



From [e-mail] Thu Sep 19 18:56:27 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Andy Domonkos)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: BC3000 Great! Battery Stinks!
Date: 17 Sep 1996 12:00:01 GMT
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Has anyone found a 3rd party replacement battery for the 3000, preferably
one that took AA or AAA alkalines? One of my packs just went dead and of
course their is no local battery replacment available (no inserts). I'm
sure I can get one via phone order, but I was hoping for an alternative.
This battery should have lasted more than a year, especially since I use
careful charging precautions.

The battery is the only weakpoint I see with this scanner.

Andy



From [e-mail] Thu Sep 19 18:56:28 1996
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From: [e-mail] (NYO41ed)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: BC3000XLT
Date: 12 Sep 1996 21:27:44 -0400
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I have a US version of the BC-3000 and love it. I do notice that the
battery doesn't last too long. It seems I get about 3 times as much use
out of my BC-60 with regular AA Ni-cads.

I have friends who have bought from Javiation and have been very happy,
however you will have to pay the Duty tax when they deliver it wich could
be from $20-60.


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 19 18:56:28 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Hay145)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: BC3000XLT
Date: 13 Sep 1996 07:55:51 -0400
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>I have friends who have bought from Javiation and have been very happy,
>however you will have to pay the Duty tax when they deliver it wich could
>be from $20-60.

I think this may only be charged if you choose the optional UPS delivery
(even then I have heard from people who were not charged).  I have had
deliveries by Air Mail from them and no Duty was charged.

Harry.





From [e-mail] Thu Sep 19 18:56:30 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Michael Alexander)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: BC3000XLT
Date: Mon, 16 Sep 1996 08:45:32 -0400
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In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail]
(Michael R. Erb) wrote:

> In article <51adag$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (NYO41ed)
wrote:
>
> > I have a US version of the BC-3000 and love it. I do notice that the
> > battery doesn't last too long. It seems I get about 3 times as much use
> > out of my BC-60 with regular AA Ni-cads.
> >
> > I have friends who have bought from Javiation and have been very happy,
> > however you will have to pay the Duty tax when they deliver it wich could
> > be from $20-60.
>
> I just received a UBC3000xlt scanner from Javiation and I paid -no- duty
> upon delivery. It was shipped normal airmail.
>
It must be the way that it is sent. I paid duty on an AOR8000 sent via UPS
and nothing on a UBC3000XLT sent via airmail.

--
Michael Alexander
[e-mail]


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 19 18:56:30 1996
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From: [e-mail] (HankMTex)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Bearcat SC150B HELP
Date: 15 Sep 1996 21:39:50 -0400
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Looking for any info at all for my SC150B, If you have a manual that you
can copy I would be extremely happy to pay your copy costs and postage.
Thanks to all who offer any info on this model.  [e-mail]


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 19 18:56:32 1996
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From: [e-mail]
Newsgroups: alt.radio.scanner,nj.forsale,princeton.forsale,rec.radio.scanner,rec.radio.shortwave,us.forsale.misc,us.forsale.d
Subject: Re: BIKE WATER BOTTLES CHEAP
Date: Sat, 14 Sep 1996 00:48:22 -0400
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David M. Hitchner wrote:
>
> I've been searching for a long time for an offer like this!  This is
> exacting why I came to this new group.
>
> --
> David M. Hitchner   <[e-mail]>
>       Living on an information dirt road,
>        just off the information highway.
>
> [e-mail] wrote in article <[e-mail]>...
> > I HAVE WATER BOTTLES FOR BIKES CHEAP ALSO GOOD FOR OTHER THINGS YOU NEED
> > TO PROTECT
> >
 GOOD HOW MANY THOUSAND DO YOU NEED?


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 19 18:56:32 1996
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From: Squeeky From <cheek=[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Bill Cheek eats dog shit!
Date: Wed, 18 Sep 1996 17:47:26 -0400
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Billy "butt-cheeks" eats dog shit.  He prefers to stick his head right at the
dog's ass
and catch the shit in his mouth as it squirts out of the dog's asshole.  After
 the dog
is done shitting, he licks its asshole clean.  If there are no dogs around, he
 just
picks turds up off the ground and eats them.  I heard that he sits and listens
 to his
scanner while his dog licks his little shriveled up dick.  Sometimes he 69's h
is dog and
licks his butt for dingleberries.  Bill cheek= loser extraordinaire!


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 19 18:56:33 1996
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From: TEX <[e-mail]>
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Subject: bouteille d eau?
Date: Sun, 15 Sep 1996 20:46:12 -0700
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Quelqu un peut me dire qu est ce qu il veut dire par bouteille d eau
pour bicyclette, est ce un code que je ne connais pas ou c est
reelement ca


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 19 18:56:34 1996
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Subject: Can't program my bearcat
Date: Mon, 16 Sep 1996 06:23:11 GMT
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I let my batt. run down and after it was recharged, I could program my
freq. on the varrious channels but, I can't scan the telephones as it
won't set the low and high limits. Any suggestions?



From [e-mail] Thu Sep 19 18:56:35 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Watcher5)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: CANADIAN DOLLARS
Date: Thu, 12 Sep 1996 14:39:18 GMT
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Porchnoy <[e-mail]> wrote:

>Boy, you people in Canada have it sooooooo good.  What with
>your STRONG Canadian dollar and your NATIONAL sales tax on
>top of provincial SALES TAX.  Ohhhhhhhh, I wish I lived in
>Canada.

Actually, we do have it good here.  Sure, our dollar isn't strong
compared to yours, but it still buys a dollar's worth of goods in our
own country.  Sure we have the GST.  Small price to pay for everything
we get.  Imagine.  Medical care for EVERYONE!  Education that puts
yours to shame.  Not to mention, we're the number one country in the
world (officially!) and have been for a number of years.  Canada is
recognized around the world as a peaceful country and a protector of
peace (we came up with the idea of the U.N. Peacekeepers and have been
part of that team from the beginning).  You're only known for your
violence and your blood lust for war.  Plus, you don't see terrorists
blowing up our federal buildings or our airplanes.  Yes, life is GREAT
in the north.



From [e-mail] Thu Sep 19 18:56:36 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Watcher5)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: CANADIAN DOLLARS
Date: Sat, 14 Sep 1996 11:44:38 GMT
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[e-mail] (Drew Durigan) wrote:

>Huh?  By what standards?  Number one in WHAT?  Socialism and high taxes?

Standard of living.  As set by the United Nations.

>What other choice do you have?  Canada lacks a powerful, sophisticated
>military.  Your only option is to be "nice" and "peaceful" to the rest of
>the world and hope that nobody attacks you.  But of course if they did,
>the "violent, blood-lusting" Americans would be quick to bail you out
>with our superior military.

Seems to me that you americans were pretty nervous about the Canadian
military back in the late '50's.  One of our defense contractors had
developed a superior jet.  Your CIA and military were worried about it
because it was the ONLY enemy of the U2.  So what did you do?  You do
what you always do.  You forced us to cancel the project, destroy all
the planes and data on them.  In "return" you set up missles (BOMARC)
to defend us from the Soviet "threat".  You also got many of the
engineers from the project as they went to work for NASA and other
contractors.  The SR-71 and F-117 have similar features that we had on
our plane back in 1959.  As a sidenote, the company that made this
plane as made the first commerical jet to fly in North America.  8
years before Boeing made it's 707.  By the way, the name of the
company was Avro Aircraft.  The military jet was the Arrow.



From [e-mail] Thu Sep 19 18:56:37 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Roland Stiner)
Date: 16 Sep 96 21:11:00
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
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Subject: Re: CANADIAN DOLLARS
Lines: 13


 >selection, and significantly lower taxes that are available there.  Even
 >the amount of gasoline they burn on the 200+ mile round-trip is offset by
 >the fact that they can fill up on the US side of the border for
 >substantially less.

Yes, about half the price in the US.  Was up in Canada a month ago and
the price blew me away.  At the border with Canada, there are big signs
(Fill up now... Last chance...)
---
   OLX 1.53   -------------->    73, de NK2U    <----------------

--


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 19 18:56:38 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Bill Cheek)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner,alt.radio.scanner,rec.radio.cb,rec.radio.swap
Subject: Re: CB linear amps 4 Sale
Date: Wed, 18 Sep 1996 17:44:08 GMT
Organization: COMMtronics Engineering/World Scanner Report
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[e-mail] (Ron Katz) wrote:

>Now tell me something here...What stops someone from rewriting the
>headder in the body of their posts?

Nothing.  But that would be ignorant, because it would appear as a
part of the message, not the header.


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 19 18:56:39 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Mustang Maniac)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner,alt.radio.scanner,rec.radio.cb,rec.radio.swap
Subject: Re: CB linear amps 4 Sale
Date: 19 Sep 1996 12:46:03 GMT
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In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail]
says...
>Why, it's not illegal to sell or own one...  It's illegal to USE ONE!
>And it's only illegal if you get caught.

Sorry, Jerry, you're wrong here.  If you are caught with an amplifier
capable of being used on 11m CB, and you're not a licensed ham radio
operator, the FCC will PRESUME that you intend to use the amp with
your CB, and you are guilty.  If you're a ham, and you get caught
with an amp connected to an 11m CB, you're guilty also.  You do NOT
have to be caught operating the amp on CB to get "busted"!

The FCC occasionally sets up at truck weight stations along the
interstates and busts truckers who are using amps.  Most of them have
the amps just sitting in plain view on top of their CBs on the dash
of the tractor.

This information comes directly from the FCC Field Office in Dallas!

73 de KC5NG (Dean Hemphill)



From [e-mail] Thu Sep 19 18:56:40 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Thoma R. Schaefer)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner,alt.radio.scanner
Subject: Cell Phone monitoring - what scanner??
Date: Sun, 15 Sep 96 19:46:05 GMT
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Hi all.

Are there any current model scanners that can easily be modified to get cell
phones?

Thanks in advance,
Tom Schaefer - [e-mail]


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 19 18:56:41 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Chuck Meyer)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Cell phones - higher priority calls for police and ...
Date: Tue, 17 Sep 1996 21:40:58 -0700
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In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] wrote:

> I talked to someone in the law enforcement in about 94, and he
> confirmed this. I don't know if its a signal that is sent, or if its
> something in the ESN, but since it is relatively easy to get into
> program mode on most phones, I don't think thats it.
>
> [e-mail] (HH357) wrote:
>
> >I have seen the format of the data burst for initiating cell phone calls.
> >In it, is a 2 bit field labeled priority(or the equivalent).  Supposedley,
> >these two bits were designed to give police, military, (and probably the
> >telco), priority use of cells in the event of cell saturation.
> >
> >In use, a phone with priority would bounce lower priority phones if it
> >came into a busy cell.  Conversely, it could not be bumped by someone with
> >a lower priority.
> >
> >The rumor is that this feature was/is never enabled.
> >
> >I once asked a police technician the intentionally naive question of..
> >"...well, don't the police have priority on cell phone calls?"
> >
> >His answer was (1994) "...we're working on it."
> >
> >Does anyone have knowledge about the use or plans for this feature?
> >Can this be enabled on a local basis?   What type of agencies get
> >priority?
> >
> >TIA
> >                          cheers
> >

There is a priority field in the NAM data. In emergency situations the
MTSO's ( the switches that talk to the radio equipment in the cell towers)
can be told to restrict access to higher priority levels. Militia types
might want to be able to enable higher priority on their phones to keep
FEMA from shutting 'em out when the Black Helicopters land and NATO & the
UN take over the Government.


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 19 18:56:42 1996
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From: [e-mail] (charly)
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Subject: Re: Cell-Tracker,How does it work?
Date: Mon, 16 Sep 1996 05:43:26 GMT
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On 9 Sep 1996 03:25:30 GMT, [e-mail] (Chuck Meyer) wrote:

>In article <50hvfn$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] wrote:
>
>> Hi,I was wondering how this equipment works.
>> I see these units use a receiver,computer,
>> and software.
>> I understand the receiver and computer parts
>> of the system but how is the software used to
>> make it possible to follow a certain cell. number??
>> Is this something a person could build?
>> Seems like a very interesting unit,anyone care
>> to give us all a little insight?
>>           Thanxx
>
>If you listen to the cellsite or "tower" frequency, you will occasionally
>hear a short buzz behind the voice. This is the system commanding the
>phone to change some parameter of its operation (usually the transmitter
>power output). Sometimes when you hear the buzz, the signal goes away.
>this is the call being "handed off" to another cell. The cell you were
>listening to realised that it was soon going to lose the phone and asked
>the nearby cells if anyone could hear the phone any better. As soon as one
>was found, it told the handing-off cell which of its own channels was
>clear. The handing-off cell then signalled the phone "Change to channel
>nnn" that's the buzz just before the signal drops.
>Then the phone retunes its transmitter & the cell tower transmitter clears
>the now-idle channel.
>The radio reciever in the cell tracker picks out the data burst, the
>computer reads the channel number & retunes the radio.
>There was a company in the Midwest called CCS that used to sell a small
>board with a microprocessor on it that would decode the control messages.
>A computer could then derive the cell frequency from the phone channel.
>Then the radio can be retuned. The signals needed to recieve (snarf) the
>ESN & MIN come from the phone, not the cell, and the CCS device dosen't
>decode these.
>-- Chuck


     Chuckie, do you have a Oki900 w/c-tek cable and CES
(cell-survail-soft) ?


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 19 18:56:43 1996
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From: Jeffrey Miller <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: Cellular rebroadcast laws
Date: Mon, 16 Sep 1996 14:06:15 -0400
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Roland wrote:
[snip]
My Scout and AR8000 say they are on cellular.
[snip]

Steve Wrote:
>> You mean, both the AR8000 and Scout are in violation of the law?

Since a Frequency counter has no Audio Output why is it illegal to find
out if the Reporter is giving you a line of BS or not?  I know it is
illegal to listen to cell calls via scanner. But just finding out the
frequency shouldn't be (seems stupid to me if it is) as long as you
DON'T LISTEN after getting the info.


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 19 18:56:44 1996
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From: Curtis Wheeler <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: Cellular rebroadcast laws ?
Date: Wed, 11 Sep 1996 16:18:43 -0700
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To: Harry Stuver <[e-mail]>

Harry Stuver wrote:
>
> Question: How can the radio and t.v. stations rebroadcast the reporters in
> the field on thier cellular phone feed to the station ?
> I was at an event and the reporter tried to tell me they have a dedicated
> bussiness frequency to the station. My Scout and AR8000 say they are on
> cellular. Are they somehow exempt from the law pertaining to monitoring
> cellular phone calls ?

Many radio and TV stations have frequencies for remote pick-up and
broadcast auxilary.  These are VHF, UHF and microwave.  However
sometimes a phone call is easier and more efficient.

When they use cellular phones they are not monitoring the cellular
channels.  They are using it just as anyone else would, as a telephone.
It is perfectly legitimate for a reporter to call in on a phone and be
patched on the air.  Both the reporter and the stations are parties to
the call so they can do what they want with the phones.

This is a lot different than "monitoring" or "eavesdropping" on cellular
frequencies.

--
Curtis
KD6ELA / GROL / PP-ASEL


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 19 18:56:45 1996
From: [e-mail] (Christopher Barbosa)
Subject: CES (cell-survail-soft) ?
Date: 17 Sep 96 07:01:27 -0700
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CES
(cell-survail-soft) ?

What does it do and where can I get it ?


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 19 18:56:45 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Bill Cheek)
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Subject: Re: CHEEK-3
Date: Sun, 15 Sep 1996 21:16:01 GMT
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>I saw a vanity tag on the back of a car in Tampa this morning that
>read CHEEK-3. What's the scoop on this Bill?

No clue.  None whatsoever.  It's probably unrelated to my book.  My
publisher has relatives in that area, but he drives a car registered
in California.

Bill Cheek
Scannist Extraordinaire


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 19 18:56:47 1996
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From: [e-mail]
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CITY OF SEATTLE COMMUNICATIONS ADVISORY
Sept. 17, 1996

    On Saturday, Sept. 21, 1996, the City of Seattle will conduct a two-and-a-
half-
hour emergency exercise testing some of its neighborhood-based disaster readin
ess
and response teams, as well as the amateur radio system that supports the team
s.
The test will involve a variety of City locations but activity will be focused
 at three
sites in West Seattle.

    The drill begins at approximately 9:30 a.m. and is expected to conclude ar
ound
noon.

    Members of two West Seattle SDART (Seattle Disaster Aid & Response Teams)
neighborhood groups and amateur radio operators from Seattle ACS (Auxiliary
Communications Services) will participate in the City-organized training exerc
ise,
which will simulate an earthquake.  The drill will assess how the neighborhood

teams respond to their SDART training and how the amateur radio system
established to serve as a communications resource to SDART functions to
provide information to the City's Emergency Operations Center (EOC) about the
status of SDART neighborhoods.

    Because messages will involve radio transmission, it is possible that on
Saturday you may pick up information related to the emergency exercise on
scanners or hear information related to the drill from some other source.
This advisory is to alert you to that possibility. Radio messages that are par
t
of the exercise will begin and end with the statement:  "This is a drill." The
se
messages will be transmitted over two frequencies: 146.96 (the primary
repeater) and 441.80 (may be used).

    If you have any questions about the exercise or wish to confirm reports of
 an
emergency situation within Seattle on Saturday, Sept. 21, between 9 a.m. and
noon, please contact the City's Office of Emergency Management at (206) 233-
5076.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Katherine Schubert-Knapp
Public Information Officer
City of Seattle
Department of Administrative Services
Phone: [phone]
Fax: [phone]
Internet Address: [e-mail]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>











From [e-mail] Thu Sep 19 18:56:49 1996
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From: [e-mail]
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Subject: COLORADO 250MB TAPE BACKUP FOR SALE
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COLORADO TAPE BACKUP FOR SALE 250MB BEST OFFER
WITH 6 TAPES


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 19 18:56:50 1996
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From: [e-mail]
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Subject: Re: COLORADO 250MB TAPE BACKUP FOR SALE
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On 1996-09-14 [e-mail] said:
   >COLORADO TAPE BACKUP FOR SALE 250MB BEST OFFER
   >WITH 6 TAPES


Anyone know how to interface this puppy with a Pro2006? <G>


[e-mail]

Never wrestle a pig.  You both get dirty, and he likes it.

Net-Tamer V 1.06H For HP100/200 & OG700 - Registered



From [e-mail] Thu Sep 19 18:56:51 1996
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I HAVE CONNECTORS FOR SALE
BNC UHF F JUST LEAVE E-MAIL WITH REQUESTS MANY OTHERS


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 19 18:56:52 1996
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From: "Sonny J. Lewis" <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: CPD Trunked system/hacker--link
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Sorry--forgot to put the link on the post.

gopher://gopher.dispatch.com/00ftp:gopher:News of the Week:Local
News:Police radio hacker convicted

Sonny J. Lewis


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From: [e-mail] (Steve)
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Subject: Re: CPD Trunked system/hacker--link
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In article <51clip$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] says...
>
>"Sonny J. Lewis" <[e-mail]> wrote:
>
>>Sorry--forgot to put the link on the post.
>
>>gopher://gopher.dispatch.com/00ftp:gopher:News of the Week:Local
>>News:Police radio hacker convicted
>
>From the article it seems clear that this man did violate the law.  As
>I understand the article he used information not available to the
>public and hacked, Motorola software to program the radio.  The secret
>stuff the newspaper article refers to is not the talkgroup and other
>information necessary to follow users of the system, it is the
>passwords and software used to control the trunking system.
>

No I was licensed for the software from Motorola. And they stated the hex code
s
were not legal to have. I used no passwords to set up the radio that was only
used by me and was only used for monitoring. the whole thing is a political
deal and Officers lied on the stand. In my 20 years of being a cop this was th
e
biggest joke of a trial i have ever seen. A apeal has been filed.
                                Steve




From [e-mail] Thu Sep 19 18:56:55 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Big John)
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Just recently bought a new PRO-60.  I had a listing for freqs in Phoenix and I

moved to Dallas.  Need a good listing from this area.

Anyone got one??

Thanks!!



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From: [e-mail]
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1 DBX TYPE 2 ENCODER/DECODER FOR SALE MODEL NX-4025 DOLLARS OR BEST
OFFER


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 19 18:56:56 1996
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From: [e-mail] (CatDaddy)
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Still looking for Denton Co/Denton Texas frequencies -- anyone?

CatDaddy


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Has Disneyworld gone trunked?  If so, anyone have any suggestions for
monitoring while there?  I have scanned in Disneyworld before and it was
the best scanning I have ever done.
--
Greenup, Kentucky Homepage
http://ram.ramlink.net/~paulh/
Clipart for Genealogy online, History clips soon.


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 19 18:56:58 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Joe Nicholson)
Date: 12 Sep 96 13:45:33
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 -=> Quoting Alan Frisbie to All <=-

 AF> I am curious if Radio Shack does the same thing with scanners
 AF> that they do with telephone answering machines: sell used
 AF> units as if they were new?
 AF> Does this same sort of thing happen with scanners at Radio Shack?


 I happens with scanners at Wal-Mart.  The first one I purchased had
 most of the banks pre-programmed and was scratched.  The second I
 obtained had accessories missing and twist ties missing.

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From [e-mail] Thu Sep 19 18:56:59 1996
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Subject: Re: Does Radio Shack often sell used equipment as new?
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The last thing I bought from radio shack (and I mean LAST) was a cheap
metal detector.  The thing probably didn't work to well to begin with,
but the sales guy said "oh I've got one right here" and he pulled a
beat-up box from behind the counter.  Anyone could tell it had been
carelessly opened and then stuffed closed again several times.  (the
thing didn't work worth crap and I took it back. I wonder who they sold
it to next?)


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 19 18:57:00 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Bill Cheek)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner,alt.radio.scanner
Subject: Duh?
Date: Thu, 19 Sep 1996 05:46:06 GMT
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Something's peculiar here.  Now I am not widely known for brilliance
and great intellect, so bear with me.

Over the last few weeks, posts from the following sources have been
made to the scanner forums here:

Fidonet:  Michael C Tiernan%1:2619/211.9 2:301/249.666
Fidonet:  Jim %1:2619/211.9%12:320/100.666 2:301/249.666
Fidonet:  Bill Cheek%1:2619/211.9 2:301/249.666
Fidonet:  Prescott %1:2619/211.9 2:301/249.666
Fidonet:  "Jeffrey Miller" %1:2619/211.9 2:301/249.666
Fidonet:  Karl Schultz %1:2619/211.9 2:301/249.666
Fidonet:  Roy Schahrer%1:2619/211.9 2:301/249.666
Fidonet:  "Glenn Hansen" %1:2619/211.9 2:301/249.666
Fidonet:  Gary Baker %1:2619/211.9 2:301/249.666
Fidonet:  chainsaw%1:2619/211.9 2:301/249.666

Does anyone have a clue to what's going on here?  We're not talking
run-of-the-mill forgeries here, but sure as tootin', my source is NOT

> Bill Cheek%1:2619/211.9 2:301/249.666

And neither are most of the others above.


Clueless Bill



From [e-mail] Thu Sep 19 18:57:01 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Ken Navarre)
Subject: Re: Earth Quake direct monitoring
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: : >Heres what you need to monitor these devices. 1./ a
[snip]
One other problem with Dr. Pepper's method that is solved thru the use of
a demodulator is that many of the telemetry signals are multiplexed.
Unless you use a demodulator to listen to *one* signal rather than
several you'll get a lot of garbage in your data. If you just want to
know when an earthquake occurs this isn't a problem but if you actually want
to look at the data for the seismic waves you need to eliminate all but one
signal per trace. The site I monitor has 6 different sensors on 1 RF carrier.
Some of the sensors are high gain some are low gain. Some detect vertical
motion. Others are horizontal.

Ken
--


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 19 18:57:02 1996
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From: [e-mail] (charly)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: ENCRYPTED COMMUNICATIONS:  Expert advice sought, please.
Date: Mon, 16 Sep 1996 05:43:06 GMT
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On 9 Sep 1996 02:55:11 GMT, [e-mail] (Chuck Meyer) wrote:

>In article <50hblb$[e-mail]>,
>[e-mail] wrote:
>
>(SNIP)
>> Does anyone know of any computer-related product or stand-alone that will l
et
>> me decipher MDT communications?  In a related question, has anybody reliabl
y
>> "cracked" DES yet?
>(SNIP)
>> Paul N0YPS
>> [e-mail]
>
>Paul,
>As regards DES-processed voice, it's probably going to be out of our
>league for a while. Perhaps with a good understanding of the operations of
>a DES radio and some fast digital signal processing hardware, recordings
>could be cracked in FAR worse than realtime. As for the MDT's, if your
>local ones are Motorola, Investigate the Motorola Radio Data System
>transcievers and RD-LAP radio modems.
>You may need a communications analyser to get you a character stream and
>parse the packets. Once you have the packets figgered out, then there may
>be encryption on top of the packet content data. I have not seen or heard
>of scannists reading MDT's yet, only "friend of a friend's uncle" stuff.
>Good luck.
>-- Chuck


     It seem someone did it during the Roddney King incident.


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 19 18:57:03 1996
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From: "Robert H. Eisner" <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: ENGLAND FRECQUENCIES WANTED
Date: Tue, 17 Sep 1996 20:07:29 -0400
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To: [e-mail]

James <[e-mail]> wrote:
>
> Need England frequencies hopefully before 9/19/96

Hi James,

you may want to check out the following WEB site:

  http://www.termcon.demon.co.uk/

You may have better luck if you also post this question
on alt.radio.scanner.uk (that's if your ISP carries it)

Bob


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From: [e-mail]
Newsgroups: alt.radio.scanner,nj.forsale,princeton.forsale,rec.radio.scanner,rec.radio.shortwave,us.forsale.misc,us.forsale.d
Subject: ESDI HARD DRIVE FOR SALE
Date: Fri, 13 Sep 1996 23:39:30 -0400
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358 MEG ESDI HARD DRIVE FOR SALE BEST OFFER


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 19 18:57:04 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Clint Bradford)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: FAF - Frequently Asked Fr
Date: Mon, 16 Sep 1996 18:29:00 GMT
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>>FRS - Family Radio Service
>>Channels 1 - 7 are shared with GMRS.

-and-

>>GMRS - General Mobile Radio Service
>>They are shared with the Family Radio Service.

Bad mis-information. Not a single specific frequency is "shared" between
the FRS and the GMRS.


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From: "Paul Britton" <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: alt.radio.scanner,alt.radio.scanner.uk,rec.radio.amateur.space,rec.radio.scanner
Subject: FLSATCOM - UFO Satellites
Date: 16 Sep 1996 04:02:46 GMT
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Does anyone have any information on what frequencies the new series of
FLSATCOM satellites now called UFO (UHF Follow On) operate on. I am still
get transmissions on the 261MHZ band but I would like an updated list of
frequencies - band plans, or can anyone suggest some good reading material,
all help appreciated

Paul
[e-mail]


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 19 18:57:06 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Larry Levy)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: FltSatCom
Date: Fri, 13 Sep 1996 17:07:00 GMT
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Hi, Victor:

trucco@cybernw. com (Victor L. Trucco) wrote:

>Can anyone tell me the freqs for the Miltary Flight Sats and the modes
>to use.  I have a R-7000 with a Diamond Discone.

>Thanks!

>Victor
>[e-mail]

Most of the contact reports seem to always be in the 260-264 Mhz range
in NFM and WFM. There also have been contacts reported around 249-251
Mhz.

Don't expect to hear much, its mostly digital or data burst, but every
once in a while, someone reports hearing clear voice transmissions.

Your setup should be fine. That's a top notch radio and antenna.

Good hunting!

-Larry



From [e-mail] Thu Sep 19 18:57:08 1996
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From: Andy Engle <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: alt.radio.scanner,rec.radio.scanner
Subject: For Sale: PRO-51 portable scanner
Date: Mon, 16 Sep 1996 09:27:31 -0500
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Fellow Scanner Ethusiasts:

Hello!

I am selling my portable scanner, a Radio Shack PRO-51. This particular
model was bought a few years ago, but I never really used it since I
left for college right after I bought it. The radio is in perfect
condition with no scratches/dents/etc. Also included in the sale is a
Case Logic portable phone case, which houses the PRO-51 almost perfectly
(Hey there is even a seperate pocket for the antenna!). In addition, I
purchased a plug-in adapter for the scanner, which allows it to be ran
off of household power, or you may charge the batteries with it.

There is not a thing wrong with this scanner; I simply have lost
interest in it. I have focused my interests elsewhere, mainly in
computing (I am a computer science major). I am looking to sell this as
one bundled package.

The total cost for all of this stuff was around $325 ($300 for the
scanner, $15 for the Case Logic case, and another $10 or so for the
plug-in adapter). I am asking $300 for this package. This price also
includes shipping.

If you are interested or if you would like to have more details about
this scanner, please send me mail. My address is
[e-mail]

Thanks!


Andy Engle
Junior, Computer Science
Rose-Hulman Institute of Technology
Mail: [e-mail]
Web: http://www.rose-hulman.edu/~engleae/


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 19 18:57:09 1996
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From: Jim Wayda <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: alt.radio.scanner,rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: For Sale: PRO-51 portable scanner
Date: Mon, 16 Sep 1996 08:48:55 -0700
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This scanner is worth about $175.00 - $200.00. A PRO-43 is a
much better scanner (triple conversion with cell phone mod)
and sells for $175-$200 on this newsgroup..

Jim Wayda
Captain, Scanner Price Police


Andy Engle wrote:
>
> The total cost for all of this stuff was around $325 ($300 for the
> scanner, $15 for the Case Logic case, and another $10 or so for the
> plug-in adapter). I am asking $300 for this package. This price also
> includes shipping.
>


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 19 18:57:10 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Peter Laws)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Franτais!
Date: 13 Sep 1996 23:23:34 GMT
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Renaud Sylvestre <[e-mail]> writes:

>Est-ce qu'il y a des amateurs de balayeur de frΘquences franτais sur les news
group???
>J'aimerais avoir certaines informations????


        http://www.uark.edu/~plaws/scan/Montreal/

:-)



From [e-mail] Thu Sep 19 18:57:11 1996
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From: TEX <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Franτais!
Date: Sun, 15 Sep 1996 20:41:56 -0700
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Stephane Vuillard wrote:
>
> Renaud Sylvestre <[e-mail]> wrote (Θcrivait) :
>
> > Est-ce qu'il y a des amateurs de balayeur de frΘquences franτais sur les
> > newsgroup??? J'aimerais avoir certaines informations????
>
> En Francais ... Et en France ... (je vois organisation : Quebec
> Telephone)
>
> -- _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/ _/   Stephane / Paris-France    _/
> _/    [e-mail]   _/ _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/



Moi je viens de Montreal, je ne sais pas qu est ce que tu veut dire
par francais (la langue parlee ou la nationnalite


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 19 18:57:12 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Here I. Am)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Freq, of Mt. Kisco,NY PD????
Date: 15 Sep 1996 03:52:12 GMT
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The freq should be 154.650, not 154.64. Dispatch used to be on 155.25
out/158.85 in. I thought they moved to 154.65. Hope this helps.


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 19 18:57:13 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Kelly qualls)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Frequencies for the University of North Texas Health Science Center, Fort Worth
Date: Fri, 13 Sep 1996 05:24:19 GMT
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I'm looking for the frequencies for the University of North Texas
Health Science Center in Fort Worth (not the main campus in Denton,
but the medical school in Ft. Worth).  I know the police and
maintenance each have their own repeater, and they use UHF, but I
haven't been able to find their frequencies.

Anyone out there who knows them, please post and/or e-mail.

Thanks,

Kelly Qualls
[e-mail]




From [e-mail] Thu Sep 19 18:57:13 1996
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From: [e-mail] (John Graf)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Frequency List??
Date: Tue, 17 Sep 1996 04:51:29 GMT
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Anybody have a Vancouver Canada scanner frequency list they care to
part with? I just bought a scanner and would appreciate the help.



From [e-mail] Thu Sep 19 18:57:14 1996
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From: Ricky L. Ponder
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: FS: Antenna Specialists Mon-58 Scanner Ant.
Date: 16 Sep 1996 18:49:02 -0700
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Hello name here is Ricky, I have an Antenna Specialist
Scanner ant. for sale. It is the Mon-58 Base station.
Has the ground radials and the 800 Mhz section. It is
in excellent condition. I will take $35.00 for it.
If you are interested you can E-Mail me:
[e-mail]
or give me a call at [phone]
Between 9:00am and 9:00pm Eastern Time.

Thanks, Ricky - KC4KIN
Homepage: http://www.geocities.com/heartland/7680


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 19 18:57:15 1996
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From: Paul Knight <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner,misc.forsale.non-computer
Subject: FS: Bearcat BC2005 Scanner
Date: Tue, 17 Sep 1996 10:58:04 -0700
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Hi!  I have a Bearcat BC2005 scanner for sale; 400 channels in 20
banks, 25 MHz - 1.3 GHz (almost continuous coverage; cellular
unblocked).  Unit includes box, manual, AC charger, rubber duck,
case, and a 2nd battery pack (which needs rebuilding).

$250, OBO, + shipping.  I'm motivated ...

--
Thanks!

Paul Knight WD8DKY
[e-mail]

-or-

[e-mail]


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 19 18:57:16 1996
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From: DK Anderson <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: FS: Icom R7000A
Date: Wed, 18 Sep 1996 17:38:13 -0400
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FOR SALE:

ICOM R7000A VHF/UHF Receiver - New in box. Unit purchased from a
liquidation sale. If you could buy one new it would cost over $1500.00.
My unit priced to sell quickly at $1100.00 or o.b.o.

Please reply via e-mail.


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 19 18:57:17 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Steven E. Skindel)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: FS: ICOM R72
Date: Mon, 16 Sep 1996 07:48:29 GMT
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ICOM SW R72 for sale, MINT Condition with Box and Manual. Includes
Internal ICOM battery. First $700 + Shipping/COD.
Please email : [e-mail]




From [e-mail] Thu Sep 19 18:57:18 1996
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From: [e-mail] (NYO41ed)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: FS: Leather Cary Case for Bearcat
Date: 15 Sep 1996 12:13:52 -0400
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I have an extra leather cary case on hand for the BC-50, BC-55, BC-60,
BC-65, & BC-60XLT-1. If you were to buy it from Uniden your looking at
about 25 bucks +postage, I can get it to you at cost $13 (includes
postage).

Reply to: [e-mail]


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 19 18:57:19 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Brian Taylor)
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Subject: FS: PRO-24
Date: Tue, 17 Sep 1996 19:05:41 -0500
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I have a Radio Shack handheld portable scanner PRO-24.
It is 16-channel with 800 mhz. I bought it new this summer, so it is in
basically new condition. The box is included as are 4 AA Ni-Cad batteries
and an AC adaptor used to charge or power the unit.

I am asking $100 for all, shipped.

E-mail questions or offers to [e-mail]

Thank you.


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 19 18:57:20 1996
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From: Ron M <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: FS: PRO-43 Handheld Scanner
Date: Sat, 14 Sep 1996 23:58:40 -0700
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Ron M wrote:
>
> For Sale:
> Like new pro-43 handheld scanner with leather case and wall adapter.
> Cellular capable! $325.00 obo. Thank You for all your comments, the scanner
has been sold.


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 19 18:57:21 1996
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From: Tom Briscoe <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: FS: PRO-46 $135 obo
Date: Mon, 16 Sep 1996 08:30:13 -0600
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FS: PRO-46 $135 obo

100 Channel handheld with 800MHz restored

email

[e-mail]


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 19 18:57:21 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Dave Schwartz)
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Subject: FS: Scanner (radio, VHF/UHF)
Date: 16 Sep 1996 18:38:22 GMT
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For sale (on behalf of my little old Mum, because the local PD went to
an 800MHz trunk system):

Radio Shack Netset PRO-2028 scanner
- desktop (but 12V input so could be mounted mobile)
- 100 channel direct entry programmable
- scans 14 channels/sec
- Freqs: 29-54, 108-174 (AM in aircraft band), 406-512, WX
  (10M, 2M, 70cm ham)
- Box, manual, adapter, antenna - complete

Retailed at $289.95 (orig sticker on box), yours for $125 (Cdn funds)+shipping
(if not in delvery area radius 100Km from Waterloo, ON)

.............Dave

----


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 19 18:57:22 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Lawrence M. Koga)
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Subject: FS:FRG-9600
Date: 13 Sep 1996 05:42:14 GMT
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FRG9600 with TV option.  It does work.

$ 250.00 obo

Thanks, Lawrence


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 19 18:57:23 1996
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From: [e-mail](George L. Vetterle)
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Subject: Give It a Rest, Ron!
Date: 15 Sep 1996 02:15:03 GMT
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What is so difficult to comprehend?  You are whipping a dead horse.
Any change induced in the circuit by using a metallic screwdriver is
insignificant relative to the task being performed.  I've used a metal
screwdriver on trim caps too!  It worked for me.  The more you argue
the dumber you look.
--
George L. Vetterle
[e-mail]

"A man has to know his limitations."-Dirty Harry Callahan, MAGNUM
FORCE, Malpaso (1973)


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 19 18:57:24 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Bill Cheek)
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Subject: Re: Give It a Rest, Ron!
Date: Mon, 16 Sep 1996 14:12:19 GMT
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[e-mail] (Ron Katz) wrote:

>Another, brain surgen..."It worked for me"  Yeh so? Your missing the
>point, I'm not talking about it working or not, I'm talking about
>using the correct tools and why.

Sometimes the "correct" tools are the wrong tools.  Let's see YOU
specify the "correct" tool....its part number, and where to obtain it.

>What the heck does "It worked for me" have to do with anything???????

Because it works, and it is maybe the ONLY way it will work.  I tried
a LOT of different tools in X-301 before I specified the #3 jewelers
screwdriver.

>Yes I know that...THE PROCEDURE BILL TALKED ABOUT WORKS

>The choice of tools is wrong and I flamed why. Read the post.

The choice of tools, a #3 jewelers screwdriver in the Radio Shack kit,
is the correct choice.  I specified it.  I wrote the procedure.

If you are capable of rewriting the procedure and specifying a
different tool, then by all means do so.

As it is, the specification for my procedure is correct as stated and
you failed to offer any viable choices.

Bill Cheek
Scannist Extraordinaire
(Process Engineer)


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 19 18:57:26 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Dan Morgan)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Glass mount scanner antenna - BC3000XLT
Date: Thu, 19 Sep 1996 16:55:26 GMT
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>>Where can I find a glass mount scanner antenna to be used together with
>>the Uniden Bearcat
>>3000XLT (coverage 25-1300MHz)? I know about scannerworlds GM-1A.
>
>>/Anders
>
>> ******************************************************
>> Anders Enqvist
>
>> E-mail:    [e-mail]
>
>> *******************************************************
>
>
Try Radio Shack. If you have the latest catalog, look on page 43. You
will find exactly what you want there. If you don't have the catalog,
the is the description of the antenna right from the catalog.

(8) Mobile 'cellular look-alike' glass-mouint scanner antenna. No
holes to drill. Easily installs on windshield or window. Covers 25 to
1300 Mhz. 22"-high element. Includes 16-foot cable with BNC connector.
20-011.......29.99.


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 19 18:57:26 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Allan Marsden)
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Subject: Glendake AZ PD
Date: 14 Sep 1996 15:21:03 -0700
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Anyone have Glendale AZ police freqs? The freqs I have "found" seem to
have taxi/limo service on them.
Thanks for any help
Al



From [e-mail] Thu Sep 19 18:57:27 1996
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From: "John,Mackey,KA0SSF" <[e-mail]>
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Date: Tue, 17 Sep 1996 02:18:55 -0700
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Ron Katz wrote:

> I will tell you by email that you are pissing me off Hansen.

I think it's how Glenn gets his jollies.  You should have
seen what he did to REC.RADIO.SCANNER earlier this year & late
last year.



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In <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Ron Katz)
writes:
>
>Now you want a go at me?  You saw what I had to say on the ng.
>I will tell you by email that you are pissing me off Hansen.
>There two things I like to do. One is suck cocks that
>make yours looks like a splinter and the other is fight.
>So fartface wich one can you handle? You ready for an asskick
>or a dicksuck or both?
>
      Is this a plea for professional help or what?

      Any good psychiatrist or psychotherapist in the house?
      We have a very serious case here which is not our specialty
      to treat or get within breathing distance of.

      bill conduit
      the "etc" guy


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In <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Ron Katz)
writes:

> Now you want a go at me?  You saw what I had to say on the ng.
> I will tell you by email that you are pissing me off Hansen.
> There two things I like to do. One is suck cocks that
> make yours looks like a splinter and the other is fight.
> So fartface wich one can you handle? You ready for an asskick
> or a dicksuck or both?

Oh oh.

:-(



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From: [e-mail] (William A Charette)
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[e-mail] (Michael Alexander) writes:

>In article <5130f7$[e-mail]>, [e-mail]
>(awmunn) wrote:

>>         Can someone please tell me who makes the Mercedes Benz of
>> handheld scanners these days?
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> Andrew

>You a mean a fat, over priced scanner?

Or does he mean something that's over-engineered beyond belief with any
and every imaginable option (yeah, I WANT my rear headrests to be able to
electrically fold down out of view) but you pay thru the nose for it?


-Bill


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 19 18:57:31 1996
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From: Jeffrey Miller <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: handheld scanner recomendation?
Date: Wed, 11 Sep 1996 01:34:16 -0400
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awmunn wrote:
>
>         Can someone please tell me who makes the Mercedes Benz of
> handheld scanners these days?

My guess would be the AOR AR8000...  1000 channels SSB, AM, FM etc.


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 19 18:57:32 1996
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From: Carlos Tomasio <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Help equipment to monitor Cellular
Date: Tue, 17 Sep 1996 19:24:26 +0200
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Help, I need information to equipment for Monitoring Individual Cellular
Calls

Thanks
Carlos



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From: "Mark Thompson" <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: how to scan pager data?
Date: Tue, 10 Sep 1996 20:45:40 -0500
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Andrew, you are gonna be a very busy boy!

> [e-mail] (awmunn) wrote in article
<510h5j$[e-mail]>...
>       I'm interested in scanning, decoding and logging all the data
> sent to pagers in the Detroit area.  Can someone recommend the optimum
> hardware/software set up to accomplish this?  Do I need one radio per
> pager I wish to monitor?  or can I use a single radio to scan them all?
> Does each pager use a seperate freq?  Or do they use the same frequency
> while watching for a unique ID to precede the page?  Thanks for any
> info..
>
> Andrew
>


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 19 18:57:34 1996
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From: [e-mail] (William R. Barner)
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[e-mail] ([e-mail].) wrote:
: In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] wrote:

: > BUICK 1941-1950 HUBCAPS MUST SELL BEST OFFER

: Oy!

: --
: okey dokey!

And they make an excellent dish antenna!

Bill Barner


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 19 18:57:34 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Gus)
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Subject: Re: INFO: PRO 43
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Mike Zuber <[e-mail]> wrote:

>There is also a mod for the "restorable" PRO-43's that enable it to
>receive shortwave (from approx. 6 Mhz to 30 Mhz). I performed it on mine
>and with the scanner plugged into my various HF antennas, I was able to
>receive US and DX shortwave stations.

does anyone have this mod.  I have a Pro-43 and would like to modifiy
it for these freqs.

Bill Cheeks  do you know about this mod??



From [e-mail] Thu Sep 19 18:57:35 1996
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Gus wrote:
>
> Mike Zuber <[e-mail]> wrote:
>
> >There is also a mod for the "restorable" PRO-43's that enable it to
> >receive shortwave (from approx. 6 Mhz to 30 Mhz). I performed it on mine
> >and with the scanner plugged into my various HF antennas, I was able to
> >receive US and DX shortwave stations.
>
> does anyone have this mod.  I have a Pro-43 and would like to modifiy
> it for these freqs.
>
> Bill Cheeks  do you know about this mod??



The mod can be found at:

http://www.zianet.com/kc5kto/mods.html

Look under "PRO-43"

Mike


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 19 18:57:36 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Michael Alexander)
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Subject: Re: is it possible
Date: Fri, 13 Sep 1996 12:31:44 -0400
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In article <517v3m$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (m.
mattson) wrote:

> Tom <[e-mail]> wrote:
>
> >Is the following possible.
>
> >If I transfer computer data over a satilite and or a microwave system,
> >can the data be picked up by scanner systems. I other words is my data
> >private or out there for anyone to get that has the proper equipment?
> Given that with the proper equipment I could sit outside your home and
> recieve and translate everything that appears on your computer screen,
> pulling it out of the air would be no great feat.
>
>
> Mark

Well, if the data is digital (and isn't all data?), then you are not going
to pick up anything meaningful with  a scanner. No doubt, wily hackers,
the  NSA and other people know how to capture and decode the data using
computers, specialized modems and the like, but it is not something the
average Joe with a scanner is going to do.

You can also hook up a scanner to a satellite dish system and grab
long-distance (analog) phone calls that are bounced off satellites but
again, that is not something the typical scanner hobbyist is going to do.
There's a book, Hidden Secrets of Satellite TV (I believe) that describes
how you go about hooking up a scanner to do this.

Sitting outside of your home with a Van Eck antenna and capturing images
radiated from a CRT is an entirely different thing and has nothing to do
with scanners. The CRT gives off electromagnetic radiation, including the
images displayed on screen, that can be captured with about $200 in parts
from a Radio Shack. I saw one demonstrated at a computer show a few years
ago--the captured image was taken from a CRT using a Van Eck antenna and
then displayed on a B&W TV set. Apparently this is a favorite tool of the
ex-Cold War spies who are now engaged in economic espionage--apparently,
they'll drive a specially equipped van into a parking lot of the building
occupied by high-tech and other companies--whatever company that has
technology worth copying--and attempt to get a look at what is going on on
computer screens inside. I don't know if it's true--no one has been caught
at it, as far as I know, but it is apparently a common thing.

--
Michael Alexander
[e-mail]


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 19 18:57:37 1996
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Jeff Goldman <[e-mail]> wrote:

>Javiation just received some MVT-7200s.
what is the 7200 , i have the 7100 .
what did he do of more
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From [e-mail] Thu Sep 19 18:57:38 1996
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Does anyone have the frequencies for the new trunked system being used by
the JCMC for ambulance and medic dispatch.  Please post or E-mail me at
[e-mail].  Thanks!  : )


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 19 18:57:39 1996
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From: [e-mail] (AutoSound & Security Installations)
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Subject: Re: KANADIAN DOLLARS
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>Ahhhh, No.  That's just for clueless tourists. The rest of us pay only
>about $3 for a pack of cigarettes (REAL Cigarettes), and about $28 for a
>case of beer (That's REAL beer folks, 6.5 percent alcohol. Not that light
>beer you folks love so much)    :->


Ya,  and we leave the store they don't shoot us for our goods.  I'll pay the
little higher price as long as I make it home to use the goods.




From [e-mail] Thu Sep 19 18:57:40 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Drew Durigan)
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Subject: Re: KANADIAN DOLLARS
Date: 13 Sep 1996 03:14:14 GMT
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[e-mail] (AutoSound & Security Installations) wrote:
>
>
>
>>Ahhhh, No.  That's just for clueless tourists. The rest of us pay only
>>about $3 for a pack of cigarettes (REAL Cigarettes), and about $28 for
a
>>case of beer (That's REAL beer folks, 6.5 percent alcohol. Not that
light
>>beer you folks love so much)    :->
>
>
>Ya,  and we leave the store they don't shoot us for our goods.  I'll pay
the
>little higher price as long as I make it home to use the goods.


They don't shoot us, either.   Why?  Because here in Florida, we have the
right to carry concealed weapons, and we shoot back!  The criminals know
the residents are armed...that's why they pray on foreign tourists from
places like Canada with strict, socialistic gun control laws! <g>

-Drew in Sunny Central Florida-



From [e-mail] Thu Sep 19 18:57:41 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Watcher5)
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Subject: Re: KANADIAN DOLLARS
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[e-mail] (Drew Durigan) wrote:

>We don't HAVE any gun laws.  That's why they WORK!

Sure they work.  They work at reducing your population.  So, go ahead,
keep using those guys.  Loosen your laws even.  The world wouldn't
care if every single american died with a bullet in the head!



From [e-mail] Thu Sep 19 18:57:42 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Drew Durigan)
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Subject: Re: KANADIAN DOLLARS
Date: 16 Sep 1996 13:26:09 GMT
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>Well....I've managed to read all posts and threads on this topic and,
seeing
>as this is supposed to be a "scanner" newsgroup, I think it prudent to
list
>one of Canada's REAL advantages....NON CELLULAR LOCKED OUT
EQUIPMENT!!!!
>
>hahahahahaha......
>(added for effect)

Unfortunately, (and I think we can agree on this), most of the scanners
available for sale in Canada are shipped in from the U.S.  This means
that yours are also cellular-censored, even though it is not required by
law.

Now HERE'S a legitimate complaint against us! <g>


-Drew in Sunny Central Florida-



From [e-mail] Thu Sep 19 18:57:43 1996
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From: [e-mail] (otto)
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On 11 Sep 1996 21:00:31 GMT, [e-mail] (Drew Durigan) wrote:

>Porchnoy <[e-mail]> wrote:
>>
>>[e-mail] wrote:
>>
>>> Boy, do you people in the US of A have it tough.  Imagine, PAYING for
>a
>>> RS catalog.
>>Boy, you people in Kanada have it sooooooo good.  What with
>>your STRONG Kanadian dollar and your NATIONAL sales tax on
>>top of provincial SALES TAX.  Ohhhhhhhh, I wish I lived in
>>Kanada.
>
>Not to mention having the "privilege" of paying $6 for a pack of smokes
>and $40 for a case of beer.  Where do I sign up?
>
...snip...
>-Drew in Sunny Central Florida-
>

 I guess it can't compare with the 'privilege' of having an HMO revoke
your insurance or raise your rates to the ceiling because you got sick
too often. Or the 'privilege' of having a cheap handgun waved in your
face?

Just keep throwing those stones in your glass house.

BTW, is your wonderful spelling a result of the American educational
system or a broken 'c' key on your keyboard?

ObScanner: Does anyone know of any USEFUL mods for my old Pro 38
scanner?



---
Home of the Shroom Jaw Fanpage and other Linx
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From [e-mail] Thu Sep 19 18:57:44 1996
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From: "John,Mackey,KA0SSF" <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: Katz I mailed your ISP again.
Date: Wed, 18 Sep 1996 23:59:27 -0700
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Bill Cheek wrote:
> In any event, I don't complain to ISP's.

You must be trying something new then because that has always been
your style of the past.



From [e-mail] Thu Sep 19 18:57:45 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Michael R. Erb)
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Subject: Listening to a freq without storing
Date: Fri, 13 Sep 1996 09:25:00 -0400
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Please pardon the rudimentary question....

Having just purchased my first scanner (a UBC3000xlt) I am puzzled by the
apparent inability to specify a frequency to listen to without the
necessity of "storing" it in a channel first.

This is bewildering because assume for a moment that I have freqencies
stored in all 400 channels (I don't, but that's not my point.) If I want
to simply enter a new frequency to listen to, I must "enter" that
frequency, thus replacing whatever frequency was in whichever channel I
happened to be on at the moment I "entered" the new frequency. Is there
something I'm overlooking here, or is this the way it is, period?

Best as I can figure out, the only way to listen to a frequency is to
"enter" it into an empty channel or overwrite a frequency in a channel. Of
course the other problem is finding an empty channel quickly. How do you
accomplish that unless you have a log of channel allocation?

Inquiring minds want to know.

Michael

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             East Coast Editor - Karaoke & DJ USA Magazine
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From [e-mail] Thu Sep 19 18:57:46 1996
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From: Tom Sledge <[e-mail]>
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[e-mail] wrote:
>
> Turn a measly $5 into $50,000!
>
>  Taking 5 minutes to read this text may be one of the best decisions
> you ever made.
>

>
>  1. Peter J. Boe 14817 Holden Circle, Portland OR, 79927
>
>  2. P. J. Boe 14817 Holden Circle, Portland OR, 79927
>
>  3. Dusty Cole, 804 Cass St #703, La Crosse, WI, 54601
>
>  4. Mr. P. Boe 14817 Holden Circle, Portland OR, 79927
>
>  5. Barbie Doll, 38 Birkdale St, Dollard des Ormeaux , Quebec, H9G
> 2P3, Canada

Can I ask you one question? ARE YOU SMOKIN DOPE?


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 19 18:57:47 1996
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From: [e-mail] (OMER KAMAL)
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Subject: microwave freq.
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could anyone please tell me if any cellular phones transmit
in the microwave freq. ranges.....and if so, then what range
would that be in.

thanks

omar



From [e-mail] Thu Sep 19 18:57:49 1996
From: [e-mail] (Jonathan Clough)
Subject: Re: Military Aero Ant
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In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] "Gary" writes:

Hi Gary,

> I would like to hear from those who have a base antenna that
> they use mainly for the military aero band,how they like it,what
> they would suggest to buy,etc.Just would like some ideas before
> I buy.

I appreciate that this isn't too helpful due to distances but just for the
info:

The "best" type of base antenna I have come accross for the UHF Military
airbands is one produced by a Comapny here in the UK called Revco. Going
back some years they started to produce a wide band RX/TX antenna that they
called a RADAC (Nest of Dipoles) This consisted on 6 vertical elements on
a machine cylindrical head.

Rather than having wide band coverage we asked them if they could cut these
6 elements to cover the UHF airband from say 240-380MHz. No need to go to
400MHz as the Dipole "looks" up/down from its cut frequency. The end result
was a very compact antenna with what turned out to be very good performance
on the UHF airbands. The idea being that each dipole covers a certain amount
of spectrum and where the "peak" performance of one finishes the next one of
different length carries on as if it were a steady "flow".

Difficult to ASCII draw but:-

        |
        |
        |       |
        |       |
        |       |     |
        |       |     |
        |       |     |        |
        |       |     |        |
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        |       |
        |       |
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We have in the main found this to outperform other types on the military
airband. Its possible to have 1 of the Dipoles cut for VHF Airband and the
remaining 5 for UHF and the performance is still good. I guess if your
interest was outside the airbands you could have dipoles cut to specific
areas of interest that would hopefully give improved RX on those frequncies
over say a Disconne but yet still maintain to some degree "average" RX over
a wider spectrum.

Good luck.

--
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Let us know what you're looking for and we'll send you product/pricing
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From [e-mail] Thu Sep 19 18:57:52 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Dark Shadow)
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Subject: Modifications for the PRO-2027
Date: Mon, 16 Sep 1996 07:11:30 GMT
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Hi... can some one please tell me any more modifications for the pro-2027
scanner.  I have already did the modification to get the cellular ban back
already.. are there any others ones out there for this brand of scanner.  I
would really appreciate it if anyone else has any modifications for this type
of
scanner that they email me at [e-mail].  Thanks alot

                                Dark Shadow


The offical Undernet IRC #phonesex homepage at
http://www.mnsi.net/~baillie/phone.htm
Lots of great links to various places.. stop by and check it
out!



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From: [e-mail] (Bill Cheek)
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Subject: Re: MODS FOR PRO 2011???
Date: Sun, 15 Sep 1996 21:20:51 GMT
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[e-mail] (James Collins) wrote:

> I have a pro-2011 that I would like to modify, if possible.

It is.....depending.

>Any and all mod's would be of help.

Like what, fer instance?

>I've looked on the ftp: oak.oakland.edu and couldn't find anything there.

Right.  No one has written up anything for the PRTO-2011

>Any known mods?

Expressly for the PRO-2011?  No.  There are dozens of things that can
be done to it, but you'd have to adapt them from mods published for
other scanners.

>Anywhere I can look for them?

Sorry, no.

>I know that its a cheap piece @&?%&# ,but it was free and it does receive
>excellent.      I'd just like to tweak it a little.

Then you'll have to know first exactly what you want to do, and then
get that mod that was published for some other scanner and adapt it to
yours,  It is easier done than said in many cases, and impossible in
others.  That's why you need to be specific.

Bill Cheek
Scannist Extraordinaire
(Publisher - Editor - Author)



From [e-mail] Thu Sep 19 18:57:54 1996
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From: [e-mail] (VE7EZD)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Mods for PRO2022?
Date: Tue, 17 Sep 1996 01:17:18 GMT
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I just picked up a PRO2022 scanner.
The only mod I can find on the net is the cellular restore mod.
Does anyone have any others?, I am looking for increased scan speed,
beep delete etc
thanks!
Steve


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 19 18:57:56 1996
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From: Scooter179 <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Motorola 800Mhz Radio
Date: Sat, 14 Sep 1996 11:37:48 -0700
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The info I have is that the ID is made up in the following format

        (eg.  Radio ID # 1234567890) would code out to;
                System ID       =       1234
                Fleet ID        =       567
                Unit ID         =       890

        The ID is actually in hex format but you get the idea. This is
the minimum info necessary for the controller to recognise a legit ID.
You also would need to know the control channel frequencies (usually 4),
these are the only freqs you need to program. The controller tells the
radios the other freqs (that way you don't have to reprogram all the
radios in the system if you add freqs.). For instance, a radio would be
programmed with the following info;
                System ID = 130E
                Fleet ID  = 008
                Unit ID   = 000F
                Control Channels = 860.0375
                                   859.0375
                                   858.0375
                                   857.0375
        You also need to program in what subfleets you want (with a Type
1 system, a Type 2 uses Talk Groups), usually 0-5. Subfleet 0 is the
fleetwide call, 1-5 are individual subfleets. In a Type 2 system it gets
complicated because there like 4000 available groups identified by a 3
digit hex code (000-FFF).
        Other info included in the programming is the connect tone
(usually 105.88 hz), failsoft freq, fleet size code,and a couple of other
things. Good luck trying to decipher the info. Motorola did a good job of
making it as difficult as possible. BTW, for about $4000 you can buy a
piece of test equipment that will read all the system data over the air
(for those of you who just hit the Lotto).


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 19 18:57:57 1996
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From: [e-mail] (NYO41ed)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Need Advice on Crystals for an old Sonar FR-104
Date: 17 Sep 1996 19:20:06 -0400
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Call a place called Stuart Electronics and ask for Peter Gugenhim, he was
a big dealer of Sonar Equipment and still has some crystalls. He is
located in Flushing, Queens, NY. You can reach directory assistance by
dialing 1-718-555-1212.


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 19 18:57:57 1996
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From: [e-mail] (CB17SC)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: NEED CPU RESET FOR REGENCY HX1200
Date: 16 Sep 1996 00:17:03 -0400
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anyone know how to reset this scanner? there is no switch anywhere on or
in this scanner so I believe you have to use the keypad.

Please help and many thanks,  Darrell


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 19 18:57:58 1996
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From: [e-mail] (CB17SC)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: NEED HELP!! HOW TO RESET CPU HX1200
Date: 12 Sep 1996 19:45:33 -0400
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Does anyone know how to reset the cpu for the regency hx1200?

Many Thanks Darrell


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 19 18:58:00 1996
From: [e-mail] (Jonathan Clough)
Subject: Re: Need Javiation E-mail Address
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]>
Date: Sat, 14 Sep 96 10:29:02 GMT
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In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] "Jim Wayda" writes
:


Hi Jim,

> The email address on the Javiation Web page is incorrect.
>
> [e-mail] is incorrect.

No, thats correct. Has been for the last 4 years nearly.

We lost" some mail when I was online on Wednesday. They were
showing as waiting but dissapeared down a cyberplughole whilst on line. It
now seems that they were bounced and you would have got a "unknown user".
The problem would seem to have sorted itself out later in the day and mail
is back to normal again.

If you want to send whatever it was, Just try again.

Thanks.

--
Cheers,
 /-------------------------------------------------------------------------\
| Jonathan Clough          |         HF/VHF/UHF Receivers & Scanners        |
| Javiation,               |       from all the leading manufacturers       |
| Bradford, UK             |  Full coverage, "unblocked" scanners Including |
| Tel: [phone]  |PRO-26/43, UBC-3000XLT, AR5000/7030/8000, WS1000|
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From [e-mail] Thu Sep 19 18:58:01 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Rich Carlson)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner,chi.general
Subject: Re: Need Scanner Freq (Illinois)
Date: Mon, 16 Sep 1996 01:28:17 -0500
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In article <[e-mail]>,
[e-mail] wrote:

** Need the police and/ or fire department freqs for my scanner on the followi
ng
** areas:
**                         Police    Fire
** Skokie, Il              470.7875/154.340
** Niles, Il               470.7125/154.445
** Morton Grove, Il        470.7125/154.445
** Lincolnwood, Il         470.7875/154.340
** Glenview, Il            470.7625/154.445
** Park Ridge, Il          470.4875/154.340
** Northbrook, Il          470.7625/154.445
**
**
** Thanks,
**
** Julian Vasquez
** R&D Security, Searle R&D, Skokie, Il
**
** [e-mail]

Enjoy!

--
Rich Carlson, N9JIG ([e-mail])

ScannerMaster Illinois Communications Guide [phone]

CARMA (Chicago Area Radio Monitoring Association) BBS [phone]
PO Box 2681, Glenview IL 60025    SASE for sample newsletter.


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 19 18:58:02 1996
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From: [e-mail] (NYO41ed)
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Subject: New Jersey Turnpike PD
Date: 17 Sep 1996 11:26:27 -0400
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Are the State Police still simulcasting T-pke operations on 155.19? or did
they go to 800 completeley? IF so, please post freqs I will be traveling
the entire lenght of the turnpike in 3 days.

THANKS


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 19 18:58:03 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Drew Durigan)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: New Radio Shack Catalog
Date: 11 Sep 1996 21:02:22 GMT
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[e-mail] () wrote:
>
>Boy, do you people in the US of A have it tough.  Imagine, PAYING for a

>RS catalog.
>
>I was at my local RS dealer the other day and he had boxes of catalogs
>near the entrance for customers to take  -FREE.
>
>Only in Canada you say.  Pity


Lucky for you, too.  Once they converted that $2.95 US to Canadian funds,
you'd never be able to afford that catalog!

-Drew in Sunny Central Florida-



From [e-mail] Thu Sep 19 18:58:04 1996
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From: [e-mail] ()
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Subject: Re: New Radio Shack Catalog
Date: 11 Sep 1996 06:42:16 GMT
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Boy, do you people in the US of A have it tough.  Imagine, PAYING for a
RS catalog.

I was at my local RS dealer the other day and he had boxes of catalogs
near the entrance for customers to take  -FREE.

Only in Canada you say.  Pity


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 19 18:58:05 1996
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From: [e-mail] (George F.)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Ocean City, MD - Scanning
Date: 16 Sep 1996 00:26:06 GMT
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Thanks to all those who answered my questions on Ocean City, MD Frequencies
several weeks ago.

This weekend I was in Ocean City.  Here's what I learned.  Yes, they are now
running on a 800MHz Trunked system.  How ever its not that hard to scan.  The
only thing is there are too many users on the system.  But if you are only
interested in Police Dispatch, you can easily find the 800MHz channel and
lock you scanner on that.  In over 48 hours it didn't change.  on 48 hours
the data channel didn't change.

Also, Police/Fire communications are still be transmitted on their old VHF
lo freqs and on the old 400MHz Police freqs.  So if you don't have a fast
scanner, you still will beable to listen to action on the old freqs.

I did notice that all the police cars have TRUNK only radios.  The cars
nolonger have  400MHz equipment (atleast the antennas were definently 800MHz
only)  But I think the handhelds still looked 400MHz.  This might be why
they're still transmitting on both.

One last thing.  I had trouble finding active Marine Freqs or VHF/UHF Coast
Guard Freqs.  If things work out next weekend I'll be back in OC for more
scanning action.  If anyone has Marine Infor for any of the Marinas or the
USCG please leave me know.

Thanks,
George



From [e-mail] Thu Sep 19 18:58:06 1996
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From: [e-mail] (John Wilkerson)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: ohio freqs
Date: 15 Sep 1996 21:11:57 GMT
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<Gary Newcomer ([e-mail]) wrote:
: would anyone have freqs for  the  DEA,FBI,ATF,or anything other than the
: reguler police or sherriff for  Lima,Ohio (Allen County)area.  State also??

:

     Well, you can be pretty sure such frequencies will be encrypted.  In
the Columbus Area, the FBI agents will encrypt any communications of
interest.

--
     John L. Wilkerson Jr.        [e-mail]




From [e-mail] Thu Sep 19 18:58:07 1996
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From: [e-mail]   (Lloyd)
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Subject: Oklahoma Frequencies
Date: 15 Sep 1996 22:12:22 GMT
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I have not updated my scanner for some time and would appreciate any informati
on regarding the OHP frequencies and local
government frequencies.

Thanks for any assistance

Lloyd
[e-mail]


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 19 18:58:08 1996
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From: Bob MacClellan <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Open Letter About Moderating This Newsgroup
Date: Tue, 10 Sep 1996 21:31:23 -0700
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Bill Cheek wrote:
>
> [e-mail] wrote:
>
> > If someone wants to submit a RFD and then set up a
> >new moderated group, hey, it's a free world.  I'll stay here and I
> >suspect many others will also.
>
> That's the problem.  And the focus.
>
> Those who want to take this group moderated want to take the
> "congregation", too.  They may be afraid to throw a moderated group
> party and then have no one show up. THAT would be awfully embarrssing.
>
> >  For those who don't like Bill, why not just ignore him if
> >you dislike him so?
>
> They're on a "mission".........ummmm, they're "inspired".    :-/
>
> >Yea, he can be abrasive as hell, and I do think he rather enjoys a
> >good round of verbal bar-room brawling,
>
> I've not been known to run from the other kind, either.  But I don't
> reckon there's a soul around who can say I started one of either kind.
> Not and be honest about it, anyway.
>
> IMHO, of course.
>
> Bill
>>>>>>>>>WHAT IS THIS B.S. THIS IS A GROUP ABOUT SCANNING, WTF ARE ALL YOU BAB
IES SPAMMING FOR???
TAKE THIS CRAP TO E-MAIL, MOST OF US WANT TO SEE ARTICLES BOUT SCANNING


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 19 18:58:09 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Malex007)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Open Letter About Moderating This Newsgroup
Date: 13 Sep 1996 08:25:48 -0400
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Hansen and the other guy who thinks he's plugged in (Conduit to what?)
have nothing to offer so they look for posts they can bitch and whine
about . Hey guys, if you don't want to read my drivel, why don't you use
the delete key (all you do is take the finger out of your nose and poke
the keyboard--you'll eventually find it)? Better yet, why don't you show
me the error of my ways and post something worthwhile? Naw, I guess not.
Never have. Never will.


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 19 18:58:10 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Alec Lemas)
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Subject: Re: Open Letter About Moderating This Newsgroup
Date: Fri, 13 Sep 96 18:16:40 GMT
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In article <51bjsc$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Malex007) wro
te:
>Hansen and the other guy who thinks he's plugged in (Conduit to what?)
>have nothing to offer so they look for posts they can bitch and whine

 You should add FE to malex007 as you are always on the rag.

 lemas

************************************************
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                        Blues Alive"          |
                  ---------- John Lee Hooker

First choice Email: [e-mail]

Or,try this one: [e-mail]
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From [e-mail] Thu Sep 19 18:58:11 1996
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From: "Glenn Hansen" <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: Open Letter About Moderating This Newsgroup
Date: 13 Sep 1996 15:39:06 GMT
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Malex007 <[e-mail]>regurgitates..........
> Hansen and the other guy who thinks he's plugged in (Conduit to what?)
> have nothing to offer so they look for posts they can bitch and whine
> about .

Get real Mikey.  In the last couple of months my only "bitch and wine" has
been
in reply to you brother John Mackey's lies with my name attached and one
reply to
your constant childish posts.

> Hey guys, if you don't want to read my drivel,

At least you call it what it is............


> why don't you use
> the delete key (all you do is take the finger out of your nose and poke
> the keyboard--you'll eventually find it)?

Do you always assume people have your talents?


> Better yet, why don't you show me the error of my ways

I did Mikey. To recap, You have really impressed me the
last week or so with your "or shut the hell up" posts. How many times now
have you posted that drivel of yours?  I think you have beat the record of
the
idiot that responded to everyone that he was adding them to their kill
file.

>and post something worthwhile? Naw, I guess not.
> Never have. Never will.

I have Mikey. Guess you were spending too much time telling people to
"shut the hell up", playing price police and campaigning for moderator
to have noticed.   Maybe you have spent too much time flaming others
to really see what is going on?  Your record stands on its own Mikey,
spew me some more of your childish crap. You are nothing but a tiny
boy with an over inflated ego showing the Usenet what a hypocrite you
really are. You are doing exactly what you flamed others for doing.


Glenn









From [e-mail] Thu Sep 19 18:58:12 1996
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From: "John,Mackey,KA0SSF" <[e-mail]>
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Date: Sun, 15 Sep 1996 19:09:54 -0700
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Glenn Hansen wrote:

> in reply to you brother John Mackey's lies with my name attached and one

Glenn, you are HARDLY one to complain about lying or other such activities
given the way you have conducted yourself over the last several months.


> to really see what is going on?  Your record stands on its own Mikey,
> spew me some more of your childish crap. You are nothing but a tiny
> boy with

Given your history this appears to be what you prefer.



From [e-mail] Thu Sep 19 18:58:13 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Michael Alexander)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Open Letter About Moderating This Newsgroup
Date: Mon, 16 Sep 1996 08:49:58 -0400
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In article <51bu1m$[e-mail]>,
[e-mail](BAYCITVIDGRP) wrote:

>   To the plug-guy:alexander
>
>      I reviewed my post about your lack of.....and stand by it still.
>      Plus the Hansen-guy who also said similar as to your "child-like"
>      protrusion into this group...very undeveloped.
>
>      People who read your drivel see what you are missing and then just
>      bypass the banality which your present age gives you.  Your points
>      are dull.  Your "i dare you's" very much a sign of porridge-itis.
>      That being that your mother feeds you still.
>
>      Again, you just don't get it.  You just see the mirror-image you
>      help create for company.
>
>      When you see ... maybe you will be forced to understand.
>
>      what I said in that last post stands still.  Along with others
>      who agree.
>
>      bill conduit
>

As always, this lunkhead posts gibberish and thinks he is saying something
profound. English: It's an easy language to learn but difficult to master,
eh?

--
Michael Alexander
[e-mail]


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Date: 15 Sep 1996 12:42:17 GMT
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In <51fk4m$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Glen
Quarnstrom) writes:
>
>
>I'm sure Bill can defend himself just fine without your help.  If he
>says something stupid in this group, it may get pointed out.  And vice
>versa.  That's how things work in an anarchy.  Love it or leave it, I
>say, 'cause you got NO chance of changing it.
>
>>     Now ... have you anything to say about scanning which is of a
>>     Priority One Need To Know?   More than "...just shut up".....
>
>Just shut up, asshole?  <ObSmiley>
>
>      If this meaning is taken at face value, then why did the
        process of getting the Cheeks guy banned from this group...
        people demanding his ISP denude him and cast him out into
        the land of neither here nor here.

       If your statement about "recognized as an anarchy" exists with
        the use groups, then why the collective sending to his ISP
        demands that he be silenced?

        Where is the logic here?  Or is it a place just for you and
        your thinking and when the Cheeks' Guy gets in your way of
        explaining it, he's a bad ass and must be silenced via the
        coward's way out: have his ISP do it based on deception and
        having many personal axes to grind because he likes to use
        the POOP word whereas others prefer the use of "SHIT"....

        Strange how people who enlighten get told to turn their
        brightness off because it is hard to see.  And then using
        him as a "source of much information" after the deed has
        been done with the ISP.  Brave people here.

        bill conduit
>
>
>
>


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 19 18:58:15 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Michael Alexander)
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Date: Mon, 16 Sep 1996 08:52:49 -0400
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In article <01bba189$9cae9820$[e-mail]>, "Glenn
Hansen" <[e-mail]> wrote:

> I have Mikey. Guess you were spending too much time telling people to
> "shut the hell up", playing price police and campaigning for moderator
> to have noticed.   Maybe you have spent too much time flaming others
> to really see what is going on?  Your record stands on its own Mikey,
> spew me some more of your childish crap. You are nothing but a tiny
> boy with an over inflated ego showing the Usenet what a hypocrite you
> really are. You are doing exactly what you flamed others for doing.


Wah, wah, wah... You still crying about the many times over the past
couple of years that I've told you to shut up? Go back to doing what you
always do Glenn. Say nothing meaningful, whine about posts in which your
feelings are hurt and kiss butt. You're real good at the latter.

--
Michael Alexander
[e-mail]


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From: [e-mail] (Michael Alexander)
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Date: Mon, 16 Sep 1996 08:53:46 -0400
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In article <51c8jg$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] wrote:

> In article <51bjsc$[e-mail]>, [e-mail]
(Malex007) wrote:
> >Hansen and the other guy who thinks he's plugged in (Conduit to what?)
> >have nothing to offer so they look for posts they can bitch and whine
>
>  You should add FE to malex007 as you are always on the rag.
>
>  lemas
>
Can you say "illiterate?"

--
Michael Alexander
[e-mail]


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 19 18:58:17 1996
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From: [e-mail] (George)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Opinion's on BCT-10 & BCT-7
Date: 13 Sep 1996 22:08:55 GMT
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In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] free associated:

> flotto family wrote:
> >
> > I'm considering buying a new scanner.  In particular, I'm looking at the
> > Uniden BCT-10 and BCT-7.  If anyone could give me any suggestions or
> > comments on these scanners I would really appreciate it.
>
> BCT-7.  No Question, unless you just like a tiny scanner (BCT-10) that
> looks like a radar detector.  The BCT-7 has many more features, as well
> as programming in your own frequencies.
> '73 de JIM N2ZZ

i agree-bought the bct-10 and had to send it back because it had such poor
performance.  Plus it can't be programmed and won't display the freq. you
are listening to...


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 19 18:58:18 1996
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From: Al Ducharme <[e-mail]>
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I welcome any comments anyone has on the Radio Shack Pro-29.

Al Ducharme


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 19 18:58:19 1996
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From: [e-mail] (RfSam)
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Subject: OPTOELECTRONICS R-10 Interceptor & APS-104  9-16-96
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OPTOELECTRONICS R-10 INTERCEPTOR & APS-104 PRE-SELECTOR
R-10 INTERCEPTOR: FREQUENCY RANGE - 30MHz TO 2ghZ
APS-104 PRE-SELECTOR: FREQUENCY RANGE 10 - 1000MHz CONTINUOUS
BOTH ARE BEING SOLD FOR  $625  ( about $1300 from OPTO )
E- MAIL IF INTERESTED   [e-mail]


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 19 18:58:20 1996
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From: Nick Marsh <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: Optoelectronics SCOUT FREQUENCY FINDER
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To: Sylvain Cayer <[e-mail]>

Sylvain Cayer wrote:
>
> Could anyone tell me how to increase the range of the scanning?
>
> Right now i'm abble to reach about 2~5 inches from the source?
>
> Thanks
>
> [e-mail]

Try using different antennas for the band you wish to concentrate on. My
Scout picks up the local prison repeater and I am about 1/4 mile away. I
use a VHF rubber duck. For uhs I use the DB-32 antenna but range is
limited. I will probably make or buy an antenna for the 460 range. For
800 mhz I use a cellular bagphone ant with adapter to the Scout BNC.

THe Opto DB-32 antenna is for very very close work. I havn't picked up
much of anything using it except some 900mhz stuff.

Good luck

Nick


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From: [e-mail] (Sylvain Cayer)
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Could anyone tell me how to increase the range of the scanning?

Right now i'm abble to reach about 2~5 inches from the source?

Thanks

[e-mail]



From [e-mail] Thu Sep 19 18:58:22 1996
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From: "Glenn Hansen" <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: Ouija Board Frequencies
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Danny Sale <[e-mail]> wrote.......
> I would like to directly intercept the communications from the demon
> sending the message before it gets to the ouija board.
> What frequency is this on?

Depends on the Ouija Board. Some use the 49 Mhz band some of the newer
ones use the 900 Mhz band.  The Demon has switched most of his work
to 900 Mhz frequency hopping but he still uses the "in the open" 49 Mhz
to communicate with cult groups, Catholics and politicians.  The most
active frequency in this band and the choice of most Ouija monitors is
49.666 Mhz.  You might consider subscribing to the Spirit-L mailing
list.
You can get info by sending mail to [e-mail].

Good scanning!





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From: [e-mail] (PKHARTLEY)
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In article <51hg0s$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Danny
Sale) writes:

>I would like to directly intercept the communications from the demon
>sending the message before it gets to the ouija board.
>What frequency is this on?

666.999THz


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"Tom C. Brown, Jr." <[e-mail]> wrote:


>try to hear.  Of all those possibilities, the only ones that are liable
>to be hifi would be local broadcasts, which you wouldn't normally buy a
>"communications receiver" to listen to.

>Of course, another critical issue in this is "what are you going to
>listen to?"

>If you are going to listen to international broadcasts, then you might
>want a more "hifi" type speaker, even though selective fading is going
>to clobber most of the "fi" before it ever gets to the speaker.

>But, if you are interested in other aspects, such as CW (my favorite) or
>SSB, then a speaker with a little less range on the low and high end,
>but flat response in the 300 - 2500 cycle range, with low distortion in
>that range, might be better.

>I guess "the sound of a speaker" is really a tremendously subjective
>thing, and I was too quick to say that my view was correct for anyone
>besides me, but I really do like the MS8 and I don't put any stock in
>the objections that the reviewers have mentioned, unless, of course, the
>object is indeed the pursuit of quasi-hifi.

>73 and good listening!

>Tom KJ5IE
If one is going to use just one speaker it doesn't hurt to have
something with a nice sound available when you can use it.  I like to
listen to utes a lot in the evening (ssb 2.3 kHz) but in the morning I
wake to the BBC on 9740 in the hifi synchronous mode (dsb 7 kHz).
Speakers and their relation to the listener via the room are the most
complicated  part of this whole radio biz.  For AM radio listening I
prefer a widerange single transducer with a stiff cone and high
efficiency, mounted in a simple box (e.g. Auratone) that will sound
very pleasant on 1 Watt or less in an otherwise quiet room.  For
strictly utility type listening a Motorola Mocom type 4" transmission
hump speaker is pretty cool.  Contrary to L. Magne I do not think that
low efficiency minature bookshelf (Minimus) speakers are particularly
suited for these purposes.
dr
Dave Rickmers            I'd wake up and
[e-mail]   there'd be nothing...



From [e-mail] Thu Sep 19 18:58:25 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Evan Platt)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: P L E A S E  Recommend  VHF/UHF scanner
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I have a Pro-26, and a BC9000, and they both have the same problem I
have been told plagues most new scanners: Recieves cellular on 365-385
(around there). Not a problem for me since I want to listen to
cellular, but a problem if you want to listen to milair there.

[e-mail] (Miro Ivankovic, SKS[ Maribor) wrote:

>
>Hello,
>
>I am looking for the 'best choice' of the VHF/UHF (incl. Air)
>handheld scanners.  Could someone give me any advice on this.
>
>However, I don't care about HF (SSB...) but I want a good perfor-
>mance nearby 100-500 MHz (AM/NFM) and above.
>
>Generally, all requirements are: good VHF/UHF and AirBand, high
>level audio output and maybe standard batt. size - 'AA'
>
>Thanks, in advance, for the help and any information.
>
>
>Miro Ivankovic
>--------------------------------------------------------------
>E-Mail (RFC-822):   [e-mail]
>


====================================================================
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National ENS ID: IN3501
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From [e-mail] Thu Sep 19 18:58:26 1996
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From: Ed Tobiasz <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: Please help . . .
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D-Day wrote:
>
> Can anyone out there help me with something?  I'd like to find the
> frequency and band of the Amherst College campus police force.  Does
> anyone have a listing of all the FCC's members (the college is in
> Massachusetts).  If you can't tell me the frequency, then on what band
> would they transmit.
>
> Thanks
> D-day

464.42500000 KNGV613 IB AMHERST COLLEGE  JOHNSON CHAPEL AMHERST MA 01002
TX LOCATED AT - JOHNSON CHAPEL QUADRANGLE SQUARE
469.42500000 KNGV613 IB AMHERST COLLEGE  JOHNSON CHAPEL AMHERST MA 01002

REGARDS

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From [e-mail] Thu Sep 19 18:58:27 1996
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From: Tracy Justus <[e-mail]>
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Date: Sat, 14 Sep 1996 22:56:37 -0700
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10 codes aren't used to obscure transmissions, they are used for just
the opposite reason, to make transmissions more understandable.
Instead of an officer haveing to say "I'm having lunch at my home" all
he
had to say is "Code 7B".

Roland Stiner wrote:
> That's right.  Although most PDs know they're being listened to, they
> don't want people walking up to them and just asking them for the 10
> codes.  They use them to obscure their transmissions on purpose
> otherwise they'd speak "in the clear."  If I knew that one of the people
> on the force was a ham, I would ask him though.

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From [e-mail] Thu Sep 19 18:58:28 1996
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Roland Stiner ([e-mail]) wrote:

: They use them to obscure their transmissions on purpose
: otherwise they'd speak "in the clear."

Not necessarily true.  They are used for brevity (ie. "10-97" as opposed
to "I have arrived at the scene."  Try saying that ten times fast...  In
many places I have listened to, they don't even say "ten," they just say
"Unit X is 97.")

If you listen long enough, you can figure most of them out in context.


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From [e-mail] Thu Sep 19 18:58:29 1996
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Subject: Pro 29 question...is 800 complete restorable
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Just went to the local Rat Shack and saw the Pro-29 on sale

Does anyone know if complete 800 mhz is restorable on this unit.

If not is there any model which you would recommend??


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 19 18:58:31 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Bill Cheek)
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Subject: Re: PRO-2004/5/6 Precision Adjustment
Date: Sun, 15 Sep 1996 06:16:42 GMT
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[e-mail] (Ron Katz) wrote:

[e-mail] (Ron Katz) wrote:

>Coils are Inductors that cause a magmatic field when current is passed
>through them.

There are no COILS in X-301.

>You can change the characteristics of a coil by introducing metals
>such as ferrite in the core.  Any metal used to adjust the ferrite
>position within the coil will affect the coils magmatic lines of flux.

There are NO coils in X-301.

>If you use a metal object then once moved away from the coil its
>characteristics will change causing your adjustments to change.

There are NO coils in X-301.

>Plastic tools have been designed to do such adjustments.

Not for X-301...........

>Trimmer Capacitors are often used to change the frequency of a crystal
>oscillator circuit.  When using a metal object such as the jewelers
>screwdriver "Cheek Suggested"  when it comes in contact with the
>adjustments screw, current flow caused by a difference of potential
>from you body to the scanner.   This current flow will travel into the
>circuit through one end of the capacitor by you makings physical
>contact or close contact.    This will effect the circuit making any
>adjustments difficult.

Nonsense.  That does not happen in X-301.  The adjustment head of the
trimmer capacitor is at ground potential.

> In these crystal oscillator circuits we are dealing with trimmer
>capacitors that are measured in the Pica Ferried. Humidity between the
>dielectric will even change the capacitance by changing its insulating
>properties.  Think about what physical electrical contact will do.

You mean picofarads?  Anyway, the dielectric is beryllium ceramic.
Ceramic, in general, is not affected by humidity.  Especially
beryllium ceramic.  Physical contact with the grounded adjustment head
of X-301 does nothing until you turn the screw.

Comprende?

Bill Cheek
Scannist Extraordinaire
(Chemical engineer)




From [e-mail] Thu Sep 19 18:58:32 1996
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John,Mackey,KA0SSF wrote:

>
> The REAL issue is some of you Bill Cheek ass kissers who can't
> stand the thought that your Knight in Shinning Armour Bill CHeek
> could possibly be wrong.  No matter what, you want Bill to be
> your little hero.

John,


What is X-301.  Please explain.  I don't know what is does or it's purpose or
even what it
is made of.  Is it a coil or something else.  I guess this could also be direc
ted at Ron also.




From [e-mail] Thu Sep 19 18:58:33 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Bill Cheek)
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Subject: Re: PRO-2004/5/6 Precision Adjustment
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[e-mail] (Ron Katz) wrote:

>I agree, I Did error here.  I also admit it.

You erred throughout your aggressive, inflammatory posts.

>Unlike Bill I am not perfect.

It is not a question of perfection.  It is just a very simple
difference.......  YOU are a news cameraman.

I am an engineer across a variety of disciplines, including radio and
telecommunications.  I do not pretend to tell you how to hold, focus,
and zoom your camera.

You have made a sustained practice of attacking the sum and substance
of my 33+ years in the radio communications academia and field .

It is not an issue of perfection.  It is an issue that YOU  are not
qualified or capable of leaving so much as a bird track in my shadow.

It might well be that I couldn't stand in your shadow as a news
cameraman, too, but the thing is, I do not run over to
REC.NEWS.CAMERAS and challenge everything you know in that field.

Big differences there, Katz.  Lots of them.

Bill Cheek
Scannist Extraordinaire



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From: "John,Mackey,KA0SSF" <[e-mail]>
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[e-mail] wrote:

> In other words, you have no concept why some people may find you
> slinging around insults about someone in their wheelchair as
> offensive.  OK.  (BTW, I did not claim that I am handicapped, only
> that a very good friend who saved my life numerous times is.

I suggest you direct your hostilities towards Bill Cheek if you
feel that strongly about protecting people with disabilities
or medical problems.  Bill has (numberous times) poked fun at & made
distasteful comments about people with such problems.  Specifically,
he made up stories about me being born without eyelids (wrong), my kids
being bed wetters (I have no children), PjB taking prozac, and MANY
other similar comments were made by Bill Cheek.




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From: [e-mail] (Glen Quarnstrom)
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[e-mail] (Bill Cheek) wrote:

>[e-mail] (Ron Katz) wrote:

Well, well, well...  If it ain't my old buddy from FIDO, Bill Cheek!
Did you ever manage to get me kicked out of your FIDO scanner echo,
Bill?  Our local FIDO BBS has gone out of business, so I don't have
the privilege of reading your words of wit and wisdom there any more.

Tell me, are you still proclaiming that a TV antenna has gain at 25
MHz, and that ionospheric skip never happens above 70 MHz?

>>Unlike Bill I am not perfect.

>It is not a question of perfection.  It is just a very simple
>difference.......  YOU are a news cameraman.

I guess you told HIM.

>You have made a sustained practice of attacking the sum and substance
>of my 33+ years in the radio communications academia and field .

Have you had 33 years of experience, or one year of experience 33
times?

>It is not an issue of perfection.  It is an issue that YOU  are not
>qualified or capable of leaving so much as a bird track in my shadow.

Mr. Cheek seems to have a high opinion of himself.

>Bill Cheek
>Scannist Extraordinaire
 ^^^^^^^^

YM "bullshitter."  HTH

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Bill Cheek wrote:
>
> [e-mail] (Ron Katz) wrote:

> I am an engineer across a variety of disciplines, including radio and
> telecommunications.  I do not pretend to tell you how to hold, focus,
> and zoom your camera.

> Big differences there, Katz.  Lots of them.


According to who (or whom) are you an engineer?  You have NEVER been
able to post a organization or school which has awarded you with a
certificate or document authorizing you to call yourself an
"engineer".

You certainly are correct, there are big differences.  There are
wanna-be engineers & then there are real ones.



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On Mon, 16 Sep 1996 11:09:08 GMT, [e-mail] (Ron Katz) said
something kinda like:

>> and
>>worse (re: the wheelchair comment, among others; my backseater in my
>>F-4 in Vietnam lost both legs in a crash we survived, and I find such
>>comments highly offensive - though in keeping with your other
>>comments).
>
>I don't give a shit if your bed bound, its has nothing to do with the
>topic and you will get no pitty from me.  Your a person like anyone
>else and will be treated like anyone else. Do you want to hear my sad
>story? I don't think so. It has NOTHING to do with the discussion. You
>are the one who needs the help here guy, If you are going to see the
>word weelchair pop up in a sentence and get offended then you need
>some professional help.    I am not your doctor.  go back and read the

In other words, you have no concept why some people may find you
slinging around insults about someone in their wheelchair as
offensive.  OK.  (BTW, I did not claim that I am handicapped, only
that a very good friend who saved my life numerous times is.

>
>
>return. If you are to stupid  to understand and can not contribute
>then just shut up. Its that simple! Your the one carrying this on.
>
>Most of all you are the nuisance here.
>
I think I understand now.

>Anyone else want to call themselves a VICTIM?
>
>How about carrying this on further?
>
>Next....

Thanks.  You've delineated quite well where you are coming from.

merc



From [e-mail] Thu Sep 19 18:58:40 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Gus)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner,alt.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: PRO-43 case
Date: Mon, 16 Sep 1996 06:01:29 GMT
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Dan <[e-mail]> wrote:

>Is it possible to order a new case for the pro-43 from Radio Shack? (the
>actual plastic case)
yep
>If so, do you know the part number and cost?
Assembly, Case, Front     GA-91D-9416
       Case, Front                 GE-91A-9207
       Window,  LCD            GE-91C-9208

Assembly, Case, Rear for USA    GA-92D-9488
       Case, Rear                               GE-91A-9216
       Label, Model for USA              GE-91D-9433

Screw, Bindinghead Machine BLK (Zn)    BM3X5BLK(Zn)

Cover, Battery    GE-91C-9217

Key Top     GE-91C-9212  (Rubber Key Board piece only

Case screw, 2.6x25 Pan head Machine BLK (Zn)   PM2.6X25BLK(Zn)

These are the Mfr's Part No.  no RS number was given.  this is from
the RS Pro-43 Service Manual  20-300/9300  I do not have the prices
for these but you should be able to get them from RS if they can get
the parts

>My 43 is looking rough and the numbers are starting to show wear  I
>should have used a soft case or something. Is there a softcase made just
>for the 43?
There is one close that works.  it is sold at RS
>Thanks




From [e-mail] Thu Sep 19 18:58:42 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Curt Phillips)
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Subject: Re: PRO-43 case
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Dan <[e-mail]> wrote:
>Is it possible to order a new case for the pro-43 from Radio Shack? (the
>actual plastic case)
>If so, do you know the part number and cost?
>My 43 is looking rough and the numbers are starting to show wear  I
>should have used a soft case or something. Is there a softcase made just
>for the 43?

  There is a company in California called DesignEQ that makes a case
specifically for the PRO-43 (and for other handheld radios).  It's run by a
fellow named Howard, but I can't remember his last name... I think maybe is
Borstein, or something like that.  He's the same person who wrote the third
party user's manual for the AOR AR-1000.

  I used to have the DesignEQ web page address, but I've misplaced it.
However, I found it by using one of the Web search engines, and searching
for "DesignEQ".

  If you need an exact address, I'll try to dig it out for you.

=========== Opinions expressed are solely those of the author =========
Curt Phillips, CEM KD4YU (ex-WB4LHI)  |  "There's so much comedy on
Engineer / Writer / Double Naught Spy |  television. Does that cause
Chairman, Tar Heel Scanner/SWL Group  |  comedy in the streets?"
ARRL Life; QCWA; Raleigh ARS; NRA; AEE|            --Dick Cavett
==== [e-mail] ===== [Copyright 1996 All rights reserved]====



From [e-mail] Thu Sep 19 18:58:42 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Steve Work)
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Brian Hall ([e-mail]) wrote:

: I just recently became interested in scanners.

: Anyway, I went down to Radio Shack and bought a CHEESEY little home-made
: AM-VHF Radio with the cardboard mainboard and little spring interface
: things.  I was just wondering if anyone out there has been able to do
: anything cool with it.  Are there any simple mods for it or is there
: anyone who has done something amazing with one??  If so, please lemmie
: know..

If you're thinking along the lines of mods for cellular, the answer is a
definite no.  The circuitry on this thing is not capable of receiving
anywhere near 800Mhz, it probably only goes up to the 100's.  Removing a
diode is likely to render the unit inoperable.




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From: [e-mail] (RfSam)
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RADIO SHACK PRO-2035 DESKTOP SCANNER
1000 MEMORY CHANNELS
COVERAGE IS FROM    25-520MHZ and 760-1300MHZ  (excluding cellular)
EXCELLENT CONDITION
$265


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 19 18:58:44 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Racer0069)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Radio Shack's 1997 Catalog Policy
Date: 14 Sep 1996 20:55:04 -0400
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Actually, Radio Shack isn't being silly about the catalog issue, the
customers are!  And, if you don't like being asked your name and address
OR paying 2.95 for a catalog, then shop somewhere else ! ! !


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 19 18:58:45 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Racer0069)
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Subject: Re: Radio Shack's 1997 Catalog Policy
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Bitching to the employee about a lousy 2.95 catalog.  That doesn't
accomplish a thing!


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 19 18:58:46 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Racer0069)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Radio Shack's 1997 Catalog Policy
Date: 14 Sep 1996 20:55:13 -0400
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Way to go ! ! !  I worked at Radio Shack for almost 3 years and for the
most time really enjoyed it.  "Most" of the customers were very nice, but
then again, you've got the people that just won't be happy unless they
give you a hard time.  My manager has been with the company for over 15
years and to this day, I can't see how he's lasted this long.  Why do
people continue to go back to Radio Shack if they have so many gripes and
complaints against them!

Glade to see more POSITIVE Radio Shack input here !



From [e-mail] Thu Sep 19 18:58:48 1996
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From: "Brian E. Oakley" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Radio Shack's 1997 Catalog Policy
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Drew Durigan wrote:
>
> [e-mail] (Racer0069) wrote:
> >
> >Way to go ! ! !  I worked at Radio Shack for almost 3 years and for the
> >most time really enjoyed it.  "Most" of the customers were very nice,
> but
> >then again, you've got the people that just won't be happy unless they
> >give you a hard time.  My manager has been with the company for over 15
> >years and to this day, I can't see how he's lasted this long.  Why do
> >people continue to go back to Radio Shack if they have so many gripes
> and
> >complaints against them!
>
> Because there is nowhere else in my immediate neighborhood where I can
> purchase electronic parts, coax, antenna connectors, etc.
>
> This is why Radio Shack gets away with all their nonsense.  If Wal-Mart
> sold RG8 coax, NPN transistors, and 2-meter mobile antennas, the Tandy
> folks would have disappeared long ago!
>
> -Drew in Sunny Central Florida-Hi Drew,
         Well actually there are a lot of alternatives to RS. I cannot
speak for your particular area, but there are a LOT of ham radio shops
where I live to purchace coax, connectors, etc. And as far as parts,
mail order from digikey or mouser is good if you can wait a week or so.
But there are also many alternatives to that as well. 73 B.


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 19 18:58:49 1996
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From: Steve Fleckenstein <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: Radio Shack's 1997 Catalog Policy
Date: Mon, 16 Sep 1996 10:59:00 -0700
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When Radio Shack catalogs were free I'd comb thru it like a kid with the
Sears Wish Book. Today I don't bother playing the catalog game and The
three radio shacks within 10 miles of my home see me maybe 5 times a
year usually for little junk parts. Before that I would find something
neat that I wanted and was expensive (read this commission/profit/$$$)
and would plan how I would squeeze the cash out of my funds.


>
> Bitching to the employee about a lousy 2.95 catalog.  That doesn't
> accomplish a thing!


 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
                    Steve Fleckenstein - Wawayanda NY
                         N2UBP@146.760Mhz pl100
     SysOp - Red Onion Express! BBS   914.342.4585 Fidonet 1:272/31
 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~



From [e-mail] Thu Sep 19 18:58:50 1996
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Subject: realistic pro 43 for sale
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r/s pro 43 for sale best offer or trade
must sell


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 19 18:58:50 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Don E. Knowlton)
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Subject: Reply:scanner=bug det.
Date: 17 Sep 1996 17:39:52 -0500
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Yes, a scanner could be used as a bug detector, IF;
1) the bug was transmitting in the freq detectable by the scanner
2) the bug was xmitting fm
3) the bug was on an isolated freq, not nested next to a commercial station
4) the bug was actually xmitting an rf.
Considering that 1) most bugs operate in freqs not covered by scanners,
2) there are *many* ways to bug without using rf, and 3) bugs can be
video as well as audio;
the probability of finding a bug by using a scanner is pretty slim.
Aside from the length of time spent in scanning the range of 100kHz to
2GHz, there are several types of bugs that do not xmit on rf.
I hope that answers your question.


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 19 18:58:51 1996
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Eric LE wrote:
>
> Does anyone know where to get mods (any but cell mod especially) for the
> RS Pro-2032?  Many people have asked for this but nobody seems to know...
>
> Thank you.
>
> Eric

Here you go, Eric:

Unfortunately, you need a picture to do this mod, as the parts are not
labeled.  The mod is in Radio/Tech mod handbook, and involves removing
one chip diode and adding a 1N914 diode under the microprocessor shield.

The link for the mod handbook is:

http://catmac.grove.net/CGI.SPG?L=F&P=BOK+10A


Hope this helps!

'73 de JIM N2ZZ


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Does anyone know where to get mods (any but cell mod especially) for the
RS Pro-2032?  Many people have asked for this but nobody seems to know...

Thank you.

Eric


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 19 18:58:53 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Bill Cheek)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner,alt.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: S-Meter for PRO-2004/5/6 & Other Scanners
Date: Wed, 18 Sep 1996 17:40:36 GMT
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[e-mail] (Bill Cheek) wrote:

>     S-METER FOR THE PRO-2004/5/6, PRO-43, PRO-2035/2042
>             also the PRO-34/37/39 and PRO-2022
> and possibly other scanners with the 108-136 MHz Aero Band
> ==========================================================

This article/file is for the benefit of all.

(c) 1995-96 <All Rights Reserved> Bill Cheek-COMMtronics Engineering

I added a few more radios to the list for S-Metering possibilities.
The revised list is as follows:

Connect Point Y to the cathode of:

PRO-2006:  D-33
PRO-2005:  D-33
PRO-2004:  D-31
PRO-2026:  D-30 (Requires verification - not sure)
PRO-2024:  D-24
PRO-2022:  D-29
PRO-2021:  D-24
PRO-2020:  D-120
PRO-2035:  D-34
PRO-2045:  D-34
PRO-43:    D-302
PRO-39:    D-202
PRO-34:    D-117
PRO-37:    D-122

(c) 1996 Bill Cheek <All rights reserved>

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From [e-mail] Thu Sep 19 18:58:54 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Bill Cheek)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner,alt.raadio.scaanner
Subject: Re: Scanner Frequency Concepts
Date: Sat, 14 Sep 1996 18:02:57 GMT
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[e-mail] (G.M. Alf) wrote:

>
>>       0  Hz -   30  Hz --- (Undefined)
>>      30  Hz -  300  Hz ELF (Extremely Low Frequency)
>>     300  Hz -    3 kHz VF  (Voice Frequency)
>
>Though this may be a trivial comment, I also find this in most
>electronic texts, but the frequency range of voice or human hearing is
>usually listed in with the various listings of the electromagnetic
>spectrum.  The problem is that human voice and hearing are an acoustic
>phenomenon, not electromagnetic.

Nevertheless, the term "Voice Frequency" is...ummmm....correct.

>A 1000 Hz electromagnetic signal can not be heard with the ear

Ummmmm, get in close proximity to one of those million-watt Navy ELF
stations, and you can sometimes hear it in the fillings of your teeth.

> just as a 100 kHz acoustic signal can not be
>picked up on a VLF receiver.  The two are completely different as far
>as what one uses to produce and detect signals within each medium.

All that is true, but the spectrum still retains that monicker for
whatever reasons deemed righteous nad proper by the world bodies that
subscribe to and promulgate it.

The key property here is the decade increments.  And 300 Hz - 3 kHz
has to be called something.  Used to be, high power transmitters
avoided this band for the very reason of making people go crazy for
"hearing things", which most assurredly can happen when a 1 kHz RF
signal is rectified by teeth fillings, pacemakers, steel pins in
joints & bones, etc.

Anyway, I know it's weird.  But that's what it's called.

Bill Cheek
Scannist Extraordinaire
(Telecommunications Engineer)



From [e-mail] Thu Sep 19 18:58:55 1996
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From: Dan <[e-mail]>
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Harcus wrote:
>
> I'm curious, I work as a police dispatcher.  What do you folks
> like the most of your hobby, what do we dispatchers do that frustrates
> you.

Go coded! Damn I hate that. Although my county uses voice inversion
which is easy to overcome but the city uses digital shit and all I hear
is static.

> Most times a call of consequence comes in, we dispatch it
> digitally so that the TV trucks don't beat the police to the scene.

I guess you have to. 'snif

> Is that one of them.  How do you feel about MDT's? Just curious.  I only
> use my scanner to listen to the channels just prior to going into work.
>  Then I know where I might want to work based on the dispatcher I have
> to relieve.

> Some are worse than others.  Some dispatchers leave channels in choas,
> and frequently you can sit down and feel the hate coming from the
> street.  I can usually calm it down in a few minutes, but its extra
> work I can do without.  Plus some are very good about writing down
> officer safety info, and its well organized, while others don't bother
> to write anything down period.  But then job burnout is pretty common
> in this job.

Yea, I had a friend who dispatched for the city and he quit after 2
years.
I listen alot to the police and around here the dispatchers take care of
the police.
You can really hear the concern in the dispatchers voice. A county cop
got shot about 5 years ago (he is alive) and ever since then they have
been on top of things.

Personally I have no idea why anyone would want to dispatch for!
My friend said that he would be by himself 90% of the time dispatching
15 police officers answering Ten 911 lines and Three local lines. He
said sometimes he didn't know how he did it but told me it wasn't that
hectic all the time. He said he loved 2am to 6am cause it was quiet most
of the time. He was only paid $6.50 an hour plus benifits.


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 19 18:58:56 1996
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From: Gross <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Scanner Wanted
Date: Sat, 14 Sep 1996 21:26:01 -0700
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Looking to buy a handheld scanner with at least 50 channels.  Would like
one with 800 MHz included.  Would also like the any accessories that
could be included, (example--charger).  If anyone is looking to sell,
please e-mail me explaining what you've got and what you're asking.

Thank You,

Jeff
[e-mail]


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 19 18:58:57 1996
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In <[e-mail]> [e-mail]
(Roland Stiner) writes:
>
>
>>Here in Columbus, Ohio, some fellow was arrested for having Motorola
radios
>>that were programmed to follow CPD.  He now sits in jail;
>>systems (at least in Columbus), you would most likely end up in jail.
>
>
>How did he get arrested?  Just having a radio does not make a crime!
>
>---
>   OLX 1.53   -------------->    73, de NK2U    <----------------
>--

    here in Calif we have a Cable-Theft of Signal Law which allows
    the aggrieved to "break down your doors" and cause any damage they
    want in retrieving the illegal boxes which get cable for free and
    they can do it legally....no search warrant, no official complaint
    followed with a police escort....just in they come and it's on the
     books as being able to do....you cannot sue them for violating
     your privacy rights or property rights or nuttin'.

     bill


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 19 18:58:58 1996
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From: Steve <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Scanning and Frequency oriented listserv groups
Date: Sun, 15 Sep 1996 12:08:32 -0500
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I had heard about the possibility of mailing lists for scanning along
with frequnecy updates and such, but cant seem to find one. Does anybody
know of any of these groups and how to subscribe? Thanks in advance.
Steve
[e-mail]


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 19 18:58:59 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Clay Irving)
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In <[e-mail]> Steve <[e-mail]> writes:

>I had heard about the possibility of mailing lists for scanning along
>with frequnecy updates and such, but cant seem to find one. Does anybody
>know of any of these groups and how to subscribe? Thanks in advance.

Funny you should ask... Check the Media/Lists section of the Scanning
Reference: http://www.panix.com/~clay/scanning/media/lists.shtml

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From [e-mail] Thu Sep 19 18:59:00 1996
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Subject: Shinwa Wide Band SR001
Date: Sat, 14 Sep 1996 06:33:46 GMT
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Does anyone else have one these receivers?  I've had mine for the past
3+ years now and have really enjoyed it(except for bad intermod] it's
convienent remote control is really handy especially when used with a
pair of cordless headphones.  It has uninterupted coverage form 25.0 ~
999.995 MHZ[am, fm wide/narraow] and early advertisements boasted an
optional computer interface.  Unfortunately when I purchased mine this
feature was not available.  I am wondering what it would take to
enable this feature if at all possible.  Thanks!


Mr. Lamb


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 19 18:59:01 1996
From: [e-mail] (Jonathan Clough)
Subject: Re: Shinwa Wide Band SR001
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In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail]  writes:


Hi,

> optional computer interface.  Unfortunately when I purchased mine this
> feature was not available.  I am wondering what it would take to
> enable this feature if at all possible.  Thanks!

The SR-001 was advertised originally as having RS232. Early colour leaflets
from Japan showed the RS232 socket fitted to the back however it never got
beyond that point as far as I am aware.

I don't think the SR-001 did Shinwa any financial favours and they left the
market as quickly as they arrived.


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From [e-mail] Thu Sep 19 18:59:03 1996
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From: Steven Giron <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: Shinwa Wide Band SR001
Date: Sat, 14 Sep 1996 22:24:05 -0700
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[e-mail] wrote:
>
> Does anyone else have one these receivers?  I've had mine for the past
> 3+ years now and have really enjoyed it(except for bad intermod] it's
> convienent remote control is really handy especially when used with a
> pair of cordless headphones.  It has uninterupted coverage form 25.0 ~
> 999.995 MHZ[am, fm wide/narraow] and early advertisements boasted an
> optional computer interface.  Unfortunately when I purchased mine this
> feature was not available.  I am wondering what it would take to
> enable this feature if at all possible.  Thanks!
>
> Mr. Lamb


I don't know about the RS232 on this unit but there are 2 for sale locally
to me. I have a PRO-2026, PRO-2006, ICOM R7100 and an AOR 8000...With that
in mind, am I goingto be disappointed with the quality of this unit?? I am
mostly interested in the infared remote control capablity and the different
antenna inputs. Does the intermod problem outweigh the other nice features??

Steve Giron
Los Angeles, CA USA


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 19 18:59:03 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Orca)
Subject: Re: Shuttle in Los Angeles
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Ken Koller ([e-mail]) wrote:

: Hello all, FYI I'm getting the shuttle nice and clear on 146.670. I'm
: just about 30 miles north of Downtown L.A.

That's a 2m Ham frequency.  several groups around the country
rebroadcast shuttle audio.

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From [e-mail] Thu Sep 19 18:59:05 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Rob Janssen)
Subject: Re: Software decoding of FSK modulated signal
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In <[e-mail]> Daniel Ayers <[e-mail]> write
s:

>I am developing a program to decode FSK modulated signals using a
>SoundBlaster soundcard.  The plan is to digitize the signal from the
>radio's audio output and then analyse it in software to produce binary
>data for further analysis.

>I pretty much know how FSK works (this is not AFSK), I have hooked the
>radio up and digitised some test samples.

>My best guess at this stage is that once you have worked out how to
>divide the signal into bits (ie. time quantums depending on the baud
>rate) you need to work out how many cycles occurred in that period -
>which of course gives you the frequency.

I'm afraid you haven't quite understood how FSK works...  in combination
with an FM transceiver.

When you get the signal from the radio's audio output, assuming it is
an FM radio, you won't get "so many cycles in that period", you will
directly get voltage levels that correspond to the frequency of the
of the received signal.  So, the decoding of the FSK signal is simply
a matter of slicing it at the correct level and finding the correct
place to decide if it is a '0' or a '1'.

There are two things you will have to do: find the correct slicing level,
i.e. the zero axis in the signal.  That can be done by low-pass filtering
or by taking the peak value in positive and negative sense and calculating
the halfway point from that.

The other thing is re-generating the bit clock to find the correct sampling
points for the data (you don't want to sample near the bit edges).
That is done using a software DPLL.
Of course your first guess is to use a sample interval equal to the bit
rate, and then you PLL that to the actual received signal to overcome
tolerances in the bitrate and to lock at the correct phase relationship.

Rob
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From [e-mail] Thu Sep 19 18:59:06 1996
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From: Daniel Ayers <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Software decoding of FSK modulated signal
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Hello Everyone,

I am developing a program to decode FSK modulated signals using a
SoundBlaster soundcard.  The plan is to digitize the signal from the
radio's audio output and then analyse it in software to produce binary
data for further analysis.

I pretty much know how FSK works (this is not AFSK), I have hooked the
radio up and digitised some test samples.

My question is: What are the best techniques for decoding the FSK signal
into a binary stream?

I have seen this done using a data slicer circuit based on a 741 IC,
some resistors and capacitors ... however I want to do it entirely in
software using a soundcard.

I know it can be done, as I have a program that receives HF FAX
transmissions via a soundcard.  I have obtained a suitably fast PC for
this application, so the analysis can be performed in real time.

My best guess at this stage is that once you have worked out how to
divide the signal into bits (ie. time quantums depending on the baud
rate) you need to work out how many cycles occurred in that period -
which of course gives you the frequency.

Does anyone have any experience doing this?  Any sample code or other
technical information?

I'd appreciate any pointers.

Regards,
Daniel.
[e-mail]


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 19 18:59:07 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Shawn Harris)
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Subject: Re: Stanton Calif. Sheriff
Date: Fri, 13 Sep 1996 21:12:52 GMT
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[e-mail] wrote:

>Brent Corbin wrote:
>>
>> Shawn Harris ([e-mail]) wrote:
>> : Does anyone know the frequency for the Stanton Calif Sheriff's
>> : department?  I have a book which refers me to 460.4250, but it isn't
>> : right.
>>
>> : Thank you...
>>
>> If you're really refering to OCSD, 460.425 ought to be correct -
>> Bear in mind, (unless things have changed significantly since the
>> last time I looked) that the SO uses this freq for dispatches throughout
>> the county -
>
>
>Hey guys,
>You are both on the right track.  OCSD uses a OC Marshalls freq for north
>Orange County.  This is called the 506 system.  Stanton is on this
>system. The freq is 507.1125 with a PL of 103.5.  460.425 is the central
>and southern portions of Orange County.  San Clemente which is served by
>OCSD uses 460.175.  Hope this helps out until we switch to that overkill
>digital 800 trunked system.
>
>                 Happy listening-    MONITOR 1
>                   aka  Brian in H.B.


Thanks for the help guys,

507.1125 is the correct frequency.

Happy scanning...


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 19 18:59:08 1996
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From: [e-mail] (lespaul)
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Subject: Thanks to Ken Navarre - good tip
Date: 19 Sep 1996 01:26:08 GMT
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Thanks, Ken for the earthquake insight and reference to the psn.quake.net
site. I went there and have learned more about amateur seismology than I
ever knew existed.

To anyone interested in this topic, follow Ken's advice and check that site
out.  You'll be pleasantly surprised.

Good tip!



Dave WB7AWK
[e-mail]


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 19 18:59:09 1996
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From: [e-mail](BAYCITVIDGRP)
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In <[e-mail]> [e-mail]
(Roland Stiner) writes:
>
>
>M>    here in Calif we have a Cable-Theft of Signal Law which allows
> >    the aggrieved to "break down your doors" and cause any damage
they
> >    want in retrieving the illegal boxes which get cable for free
and
> >    they can do it legally....no search warrant, no official
complaint
> >    followed with a police escort....just in they come and it's on
the
> >     books as being able to do....you cannot sue them for violating
> >     your privacy rights or property rights or nuttin'.
>
>Great, how does that measure up to the constitution?  I would imagine
>that the law is unconstitutional.  Can anyone else comment?
>
>       It's a mini-Ricoh Law....you know, the one the FED's use
        to confiscate property so they can sell it and finance their
        respective costs involved in running this GESTAPO-like agency
        to protect the life and liberty of those they don't come after.

        It's amazing how much people think the Constitution is the
        final say on what the government can and cannot do. No, it's
        the legislature who is in control who are in obeyance to the
        Justice Dept....something which the founding fathers set in
        motion by making each separate divisions of govt.

        People assume too much when they refer to the Constitution
        for why not.  That's high school history lessons, which are
        a romanticized version of the real world.

        Look at how Clinton is going after "individual freedoms of
        thought and security" with these new laws based on the bombing
       of flight 800 and the laws he wants which allow undiscolosed and
       free-access to wiretaps and no cause to review anyone's records.

        Look at how Clinton signed into Law the Internet Deceny Act
        which forbade discussion of ABORTION on the net.  Look down the
        road when listening to scanners will be "subject to licensing"
        as in any totalitarian state....look how UNFREE Canadians are
        when it comes to Press Access....

        Actually it's a moot point: digital radio will eliminate the
        market for scanners.

          bill conduit
>--



From [e-mail] Thu Sep 19 18:59:10 1996
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From: "Jay Vise" <[e-mail]>
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While it *is* vaguely satisfying to get off a good paragraph on (to) this
spammer....Imagine his reaction when all his flames
get....no....reaction!!! Not a one!! No one responds to his cute,
"innocent" replies!  Just let him spew, and ignore him.  Remember the nerd
in high school that went on and on about Dr. Who during lunch & recess? You
ignored him, right? Then he blew himself up in the chemistry lab by
lighting up a Winston near a leaky bunsen burner, right?  These people take
care of themselves.....

Jay


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From: [e-mail] (Alec Lemas)
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In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail]
t (Michael Alexander) wrote:
>In article <512sta$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (a) wrote:
>
>[stuff deleted]
>
>>
>> This is absoulutely ridiculous.  What an utter waste of server space, and
>> everyone's time.  Go ahead with one of your stupid replies.  I won't
>> read it.  Grow up.  Be sure to make some stupid remark about me using
>> an annonymous email address.
>>
>> This group needs to be moderated.  This is getting too stupid.
>
>Thank you for pointing this out to me and I am sure everyone else. We
>weren't aware of it. Now that you have brought it to our attention, we'll
>work very hard to change.
>

 Who's "we" Mr.POliceman?

 lemas

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From [e-mail] Thu Sep 19 18:59:11 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Malex007)
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"We?" Why me and anyone else with half a brain. I guess the doesn't
include you.


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 19 18:59:12 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Joe J. Budion)
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If you have any frequencies for the Toledo, OH area (particurally
Sylvania City and Twp.) and the Tol airport pls send them to me.

Joe
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From [e-mail] Thu Sep 19 18:59:13 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Gena & Ben)
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Subject: Re: Toronto Storm Freqs
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On 12 Sep 1996 04:18:11 GMT, [e-mail] (Michael Fenech)
wrote:

<orginal text sniped>
>140.430 is a paging channel (may be hydro).
>413.6875 is used by MOH air ambulances.
>153.710 and 154.845 are no longer used by Toronto Hydro since they
>moved to 900 MHz (see my earlier message).
>--
>Michael Fenech
>Etobicoke, Ontario  CANADA
>[e-mail]
>
Thanks for the correct info, I just had an old sheet here to go from.

Thanks again,
Ben


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From: [e-mail] (Phil Perkins)
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TS440 with automatic internal ATU amd VS1 speech synthesiser. Owned
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From [e-mail] Thu Sep 19 18:59:15 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Michael Schuster)
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Subject: Re: TV audio on 44.340MHz
Date: 13 Sep 1996 08:50:43 -0400
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Start using ***REC***.radio.scanner

In article <[e-mail]>, John Maetta  <[e-mail]> wrote:
>The other evening I noticed TV audio on 44.340MHz. Anyone have any clues
>to what equipment is transmitting this audio?

The TV station. :-)

Its appearance is probably due to front-end overload of your scanner,
resulting on an odd mixing product that looks like a signal in the wrong
band.

FWIW my AR-8000 gets Channel 2 audio at the top of the cordless phone
band.


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From [e-mail] Thu Sep 19 18:59:16 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Lennard voor den Dag)
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Subject: Re: TV audio on 44.340MHz
Date: 14 Sep 96 00:25:28 +0100
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D Stark ([e-mail]) wrote:

>>>The other evening I noticed TV audio on 44.340MHz. Anyone have any clues
>        It's appearance could also be due to a band opening
>across the Atlantic Ocean.  TV allocations are different in
>Europe and many East Coast hams listen for the TV sync

Here are the first few channels from the PAL-B/G allocations.

                     Channel   Image   Sound

VHF-I (41-68 MHz)          2   48.25   53.75
                           3   55.25   60.75
                           4   62.25   67.75

Channel 1 is, to the best of my knowledge, not in use.

>buzz sound from European stations to know when 10 meters
>is opening up.

PAL-I, in use in the the UK(/Ireland?) may have a different allocation.


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From [e-mail] Thu Sep 19 18:59:17 1996
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From: [e-mail] (F. Barry Mulligan)
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Subject: Re: TV audio on 44.340MHz
Date: 15 Sep 1996 08:56:44 GMT
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> The other evening I noticed TV audio on 44.340MHz.

In the US, Ch 3 audio is 65.750 MHz (some stations are offset 10 kHz to
avoid interference). 65.740 - 2*10.7 = 44.340   i.e. an image frequency.

                                                        /* barry /&


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From: [e-mail] (Barney the  WiZ)
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Subject: U.K. Brands Hatch Circuit Frequencies required?
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Hi
Anyone know the frequency of the brands hatch circuit radio Kent  U.K.
FM somewhere ?
[e-mail]
May the force be with you.
Regards   JohnB



From [e-mail] Thu Sep 19 18:59:18 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Snapple Boy)
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Is there a way to modify a Uniden 9000XLT to pick up normally blocked
channels, such as cell phones?  It won't let me into the high 800mhz
stuff where cell phone freqs are.

Alex


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From: [e-mail] (MEM&GWM)
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Does the LAFD & LACoFD used the Urban Search and Recue frequencies?
If they do, what are the frequencies that are used on a regular basis?

The reason I am asking is......2 days ago I was scanning the County
Fire Department and heard a dispatch for USAR 1 along with the other
"ordinary"  stuff. This dispatch was for an auto accident on the
Angeles Crest Highway. Also heard one dispatched to the Antelope
Valley along highway 14.

Any help to clarify these dispatches would be appreciated.





From [e-mail] Thu Sep 19 18:59:21 1996
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From: [e-mail] (tyler)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: using cell phone to scan cell phones
Date: 13 Sep 1996 01:50:23 GMT
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In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] says...
>
>Hello Tyler,
>
>Some CP's have the ability to scan, others can monitor a specific
>channel. It's the ability to go into a test mode that you are looking
>for.

I've heard that mode is very entertaining.
>
>Once in this mode you can tell it to go to a specific channel. If I can
>find some old notes on which models do this I'll post it. Someone out
>there must be doing it, now if they'll post the info for us.

I'd really appreciate that.  Specifically, I have an audiovox sp-95.  I have a

scanner that can listen to cell phones, but I like to tinker too.  I have the
programming info for the phone.  It is activated, I just don't have an account

with the local provider.  It comes up on screen as "roam."

>
>I don't know if you can use a non-activated CP for a scanner. Taking one
>apart and reworking it sounds like a lot of work. There are plenty of
>scanners that will do the job.
>
>But the question of using a digital CP to decode someone else's digital
>transmission, when in the test mode, sounds inviting. Which brings us to
>the question of using a Astro radio with digital to decrypt another
>Astro radio.
>
>Anyone willing to post info on the possibilities?
>
>Regards,
>LGS

thanks for the info... tyler



From [e-mail] Thu Sep 19 18:59:22 1996
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From: [e-mail] (anthony ellison)
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Subject: Re: using cell phone to scan cell phones
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In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Steve Work) wrote
:

> tyler ([e-mail]) wrote:
> : Ok, I have an operational cell phone that is not activated.  Has
anyone ever
> : used a phone to scan the cellular band?  How tough would it be?  I
realize the
> : guts of the phone are extremely complicated, but if you cut off the contro
l
> : circuitry and just run the voltage of the frequency synthyzer
(spelling  -5)
> : would that work?  I've tried to no avail to get schematics on my
phone.  It's
> : like getting specs on the F-117.   Any help would be greatly appreciated.

> : thanks.  tyler

it can be done with a non-operational cell phone however you need to place
it in test mode. the other problem is that you have to manually punch in
the channels until you hit paydirt. the next problem is to be able to
follow the call from cell to cell. one thing i'd like to know is whether
they can trace the location of a de-commissioned cellphone engaged in such
a nefarious activity


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 19 18:59:23 1996
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From: "L.G. Shirley" <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: using cell phone to scan cell phones
Date: Mon, 16 Sep 1996 19:10:15 -0400
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To: tyler <[e-mail]>

I was able to locate some info on the CP as a scanner question you
asked. My source states that most all CP's can be put into the program
mode.

Some require a jumper wire connection, other are keyboard operation. In
the case of one Radio Shack CP, a jumper wire was used in the handset
and a couple of keyboard entries were made.

This allowed him to program in the 3 digit cell phone channel number.
The phone did not scan but my source did mention which of the older RS
CP's he used, catalog #17-1002. I looked it up in my 1987 catalog! A
service manual, if obtainable, will most likely tell you what you want
to know.

The CP used to scan may have been an old Novatel. It may have been
talked about in an old RCMA issue, try 1985 or 1986. I didn't realize
the info was that old. I'll try to get something more updated, if that's
possible. Anyone want to anonymously tell us if they use their CP as a
scanner, one channel or other wise?

Regards,
LGS


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 19 18:59:24 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Bill Cheek)
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Subject: Re: VHF-UHF Radio Path Analysis
Date: Mon, 16 Sep 1996 14:31:43 GMT
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[e-mail] (Here I. Am) wrote:

>A well presented article. You may also wish to address Fresnel Zone
>clearance. This is often times overlooked, but an important part of
>propogation nonetheless.

You betcha.  I covered my patooty in that opening discussion by
specifying the line of sight definition to be clear within one
wavelength of the earth or significant objects.  Up to three
wavelengths are sometimes necessary to clear the Freznel zones, of
course, but for beginning hobbyist work, one is sufficient.

> The mathematics are quite simple for calculating first Fresnel clearances.
>The issue of diffraction was best covered by Bullington and is probably
>best left at that, for this newsgroup.

Yepper.  I've studied Kennith Bullington since about 1975 when his
work was 30-yrs old at that time.  :-)  Seems nothing's come along
since to explain and model propagation any better.  A few have tried,
but those guys are hard to understand.

Bill



From [e-mail] Thu Sep 19 18:59:25 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Shoggoth)
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Subject: Re: WA State Patrol controlling your radios
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Wrong W.A., dude:  Western Australia.  Not Washington.



From [e-mail] Thu Sep 19 18:59:26 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Ed Mitchell)
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In article <51574j$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] says...
>
>Goodness gracious, a microsoft employee admits he knows nothing about
>the internet!  An honest statement form Microsoft, isn't that one of
>the signs of the Appocalypse?
>
>In article <01bb9f3e$fa8db400$3e6d379d@edmitch>, [e-mail]
>says...
>>
>>Wayne <[e-mail]> wrote in article
>><[e-mail]>...
>>> This newsgroup is for Western Australia, not WAshington state.  You
>>> won't get much response from here.
>>>
>>> In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Bruce Miller)
>says:
>>> >
>>> >The Washington State Patrol has proposed the adoption of a
>>> >Washington Administrative Code regarding wireless communications
>>> >systems used by motorists (not necessarly attached to vehicles).
>>
>>Actually, several of the groups are a world-wide forum (but we agree
>that
>>wa.general is probably not us!). Unfortunately there is no Washington
>(WA)
>>State specific online forum.
....

Robert Modenhaur ([e-mail]) never bothered to notice that I was
NOT the original poster. That didn't stop him from bashing me anyway because I

posted that comment from work, where I've posted a grand total of six messages

in 3 1/2 years. But contrary to his statement that I don't know anything about

the Internet, and contrary to his inability to follow the thread of the postin
g
and note that I was REPLYING to someone who had posted to the wrong wa.*
newsgroup and pointing out that it wasn't that big of deal... I will also note

that I know a lot about the Internet as the operator of
www.hamradio-online.com, probably the #1 ham radio web site in the world. I've

also been active on the Internet for about 12 to 13 years, probably longer tha
n
95% of today's net users. Interestingly, we offered an explanation to Robert,
in private but he didn't bother to reply to the email.

We are voluntarily working hard, at our own expense, to promote ham radio usin
g
a classy web site that features genuine content instead of pointers to other
people's web sites containing pointers to .... well you get the picture. We
know we are doing a lot right on the Internet judging from the tens of
thousands of people world wide, in 44 countries, who regularly visit our web
site.

And once again, the proposed law in Washington State, requiring that the State

Patrol certify all mobile radios (receivers, transmitters and transceivers) is

a frightening bureaucratic nightmare. We suspect that the text of the ruling
was probably written by a mindless twit, but who knows? They may use the poorl
y
written and broad law to prohibit scanners, radar receivers and who knows what

else - may be even ham radio? Even if that is not their intent, the ruling is
broad enough that it could lead to that. That's why, per the original post,
many of us have written our state representatives and the State Patrol asking
them to nuke this stupid proposal at their upcoming hearing on October 9th.

------------------------
Ed (KF7VY) and Kim (N7VPL) Mitchell
email to [e-mail]
Visit Ham Radio Online, it's free! at
http://www.hamradio-online.com



From [e-mail] Thu Sep 19 18:59:27 1996
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From: [e-mail] (W. D. Milner)
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Subject: Wanted: modification info
Date: Mon, 16 Sep 1996 05:40:00 GMT
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Looking for any modification information on the Kenwood RZ1 scanning
receiver

Thanks
---------------------------------------
Dean, VE1CBF        [e-mail]
[e-mail]  FN96VC

- - ...  ... - -



From [e-mail] Thu Sep 19 18:59:28 1996
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From: Neil Young <[e-mail]>
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In article <[e-mail]>
          Roger Pribush <[e-mail]> wrote:

> Can anyone tell me if the Watson scanner antennas are good and where i
> can buy them?

I've got the Watson Telescopic antenna, and it performs very well.
Try reading some magazines to see where to get it from.  I've heard
Javiation (over here in England) are very good, but have not bought
anything from them before.

--
Seeya!!
            ===============================================
Neil Young  ***  Mail : [e-mail]         ***
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From [e-mail] Thu Sep 19 18:59:30 1996
From: [e-mail] (Jonathan Clough)
Subject: Re: Welz WS1000E smallest scanner specs
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In article <51bm0d$[e-mail]> [e-mail] "Susan" writes:

Hi,

> Well I have a new toy !

> Welz WS1000E Wide Band Receiver Specifications


> Made by Diamond Antenna Corporation
> 15-1 , 1-Chome Sugamo Toshima-ku,
> Tokyo Japan TEL. [phone] FAX [phone]

The WS-1000 is manufactufactured by Standard in Japan and sold domestically
by them as the AX400.

It is marketed by Diamond as the WS-1000 and would appear to the basis of
the new "expected some time" AR16 from AOR.

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From [e-mail] Thu Sep 19 18:59:31 1996
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In article <51bm0d$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] says...

        Ok, where do i get one?


                - Shayn


> Well I have a new toy !
>
> I thought I'd post something of use,
> instead of getting involved in the local flame wars.
>
>


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 19 18:59:32 1996
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From: [e-mail]
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Subject: Which one R.S. 2004,5 or 6
Date: Tue, 17 Sep 1996 15:30:31 -0500
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I am looking for a 2004,5,or 6, but dont know which one I should shop
for. I am going to use it for vhf,uhf,cell etc scanning. I would even
like to get into monitoring my local airport. SO, it seems that most
mods, and ad-on boards and computer linkups are for the RS
scanners(not including the upperend stuff) I have decided to look for
one of those. Are there any to avoid? I am assuming that all are cell
modifiable if they havent been done already.

Thanks for your advice.

Vince Hayward


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 19 18:59:34 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Bill Cheek)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Which one R.S. 2004,5 or 6
Date: Thu, 19 Sep 1996 06:40:42 GMT
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[e-mail] wrote:

>I am looking for a 2004,5,or 6, but dont know which one I
>should shop for.

Understandable.  All three are good.

>I am going to use it for vhf,uhf,cell etc scanning. I would even
>like to get into monitoring my local airport. SO, it seems that most
>mods, and ad-on boards and computer linkups are for the RS
>scanners(not including the upperend stuff) I have decided to look for
>one of those. Are there any to avoid? I am assuming that all are cell
>modifiable if they havent been done already.

Confine your search to the PRO-2004/5/6 and frankly, eliminate the
PRO-2005.  The 2005 is an "ok" scanner, but it's a pretender to the
2006 throne with none of the advantages of the 2004.

My favorite is the 2004, but that does not necessarily apply to you.
A production defect at the factory in 1985 or 86 caused many
(thousands?) of 2004's to leave with varying degrees of problems.
Some were detected and repaired within the warranty period.  Some
shortly thereafter.  Others went for months, or years and then failed.

If you are not capable of maintaining and servicing the scanner, it
might not be wise to get a 2004 unless you can ascertain its history.
A good clean one that's never failed and still works fine is likely
to be safe now.  But you're not likely to be able to determine that.

Sooooooo, for most people, the PRO-2006 is the best bet.

The 2004 isn't quite up to the standards of the 2006, but can be made
so with a few mods and hacks.  The 2004 has a decided advantage of
being all-metal with full shielding, and it has a gymnasium-sized
space in which to work and to install mods.  The sloping front panel
with the tactile keypad remains the superior scanner design of the
last two decades.

But, if you have a chance to snag one, you'll need to be prepared for
the worst in the event it comes from that trouble-prone production
run.  Repairs can be either expensive or impossible.  Tandy no longer
supports it with spare parts and service manuals (it's been off sale
for over 5-years now), so those who own one are pretty much joined
with it at the hip.

The PRO-2006 is the safest bet and the most modern, though electrical
differences between it and the 2004 are not very significant.  In
fact, the PRO-2004/5/6 are pretty much clones with only minor
electrical differencs.  Prices on used 2006's can be expected to be no
lower than $250-$300 and frankly, I haven't seen any of recent times
for less than $350.  Used 2005's ought not be more than $100-$150.
Used 2004's range anywhere from $25 to $300 or more.

The newer PRO-2035 and PRO-2042 are also clones of the 2004/5/6
series, but are not capable of cellular.  Their keyboards are
absolutely horrible.

Your choice.....between a 2004 and a 2006.

Rgds,

Bill Cheek
Author: Scanner Modification Handbooks, I & II
        The Ultimate Scanner (Cheek3)



From [e-mail] Thu Sep 19 18:59:35 1996
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From: Bob Snyder <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: alt.radio.scanner,rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Winston Cup?
Date: Fri, 13 Sep 1996 09:51:56 -0600
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Aaron M wrote:
>
> Does anyone have frequencies for the Winston Cup race in Arizona?  I have a
> neighbour interested in listening, and would like to send him out with the
> correct equipment.


check out radio shacks "beyond police call"


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 19 18:59:36 1996
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In Article<[e-mail]>, <[e-mail]> writes:
> Path:
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nntp.primenet.com!nntp.primenet.com!ddsw1!news.mcs.net!van-bc!n1
van.istar!van.istar!west.istar!ott.istar!istar.net!n3ott.istar!i
mci2!news.internetMCI.com!news-admin
> From: Bob Snyder <[e-mail]>
> Newsgroups: alt.radio.scanner,rec.radio.scanner
> Subject: Re: Winston Cup?
> Date: Fri, 13 Sep 1996 09:51:56 -0600
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>
> Aaron M wrote:
> >
> > Does anyone have frequencies for the Winston Cup race in
Arizona?  I have a
> > neighbour interested in listening, and would like to send
him out with the
> > correct equipment.

Checkout http://www.winstoncuponline.com/scanner.html




From [e-mail] Thu Sep 19 18:59:37 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Thomas)
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Subject: WTB:  ESN reader
Date: 15 Sep 1996 18:16:23 GMT
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Wanted to buy an ESN reader.

any replies by email please.

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From [e-mail] Thu Sep 19 18:59:37 1996
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Thomas wrote:
> Tom  "I'm schitzophrenic, and so am I"
        Schizophrenia is not multiple
        personality disorder.


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 19 18:59:38 1996
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From: SKYHAWK <[e-mail]>
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Subject: WTB:GRE Hand-held Adapter
Date: Mon, 16 Sep 1996 19:20:47 -0700
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I am looking for a GRE Hand-held 800mhz adapter...
Anybody got one for sale?


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 19 18:59:39 1996
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From: someday i will tell <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Wurtsmith AFB Michigan Frequencies wanted
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In article <50t6i2$[e-mail]>,
        [e-mail] (Robert Moore) wrote:

>Does anyone have a listing of the more common frequencies used at
>Wurtsmith AFB in Michigan
>
>Bob Moore
>[e-mail]
>

 The last I heard Wurtsmith had closed down a couple of years ago.


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 19 18:59:40 1996
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From: Renaud Sylvestre <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Yupiteru MVT-7100 (franτais)
Date: Sat, 14 Sep 1996 08:37:18 -0700
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Bonjour j'aimerais avoir des commentaires sur le yupiteru 7100, (bon ou
mauvais) qui pourrait me guider dans ma prochaine achat.
Est-ce qu'il y a des base qui possΦde les mΩmes caractΘristiques que le 7100??
?


                                        MERCI └ L'AVANCE


From [e-mail] Fri Sep 27 22:18:03 1996
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From: Scott Cochran <[e-mail]>
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Subject: "Free Cable?"
Date: Sat, 21 Sep 1996 21:55:48 -0600
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What are these so called radio shack parts that "promise" to descramble
"all" cable ch's. Hard to believe. Got any easy mods for Pr0-51?


From [e-mail] Fri Sep 27 22:18:04 1996
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From: Ronald Coursey <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: * Brand New PRO-2006 Scanners For Sale*
Date: Sat, 21 Sep 1996 20:05:17 -0700
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This is the last of the Best!
I have a very large number of brand new late ser# PRO-2006 Radio Shack
Scanners - new in the box! The scanners are only $350. US
and $15 for Fed-X shipping 2 Day Air Shipping, COD please Add $5.
Cert Fund only if COD. Credit Cards welcome as long as ship to address
is the same as bill to from your bank.

30 Day Money Back warranty

If you Mod the scanner or open the case, you will void any return
policy.

These are brand new not refurbs or servied stock - it is the last lot of
2006
in the United States.

General Device Instruments
2348 Karen Dr #6
Santa Clara CA 95050
408-241-7376 Voice
408-241-6375 Fax
408-983-1234 BBS
[e-mail] E-mail
www.generaldevice.com Web


From [e-mail] Fri Sep 27 22:18:05 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Robert E. Edmunds)
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Subject: Re: ****Please Read***** CHAIN LETTER!!!!!
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Curtis Wheeler ([e-mail]) writes:
> [e-mail] wrote:
>>
>> Turn a measly $5 into $50,000!
>
> They will never learn...

  You're right, the banks tend to look at you funny when you hand them a $5
bill with 4 0's wrote on with crayon!  But, whatever works for you.

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From [e-mail] Fri Sep 27 22:18:06 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Daniel M. Conti)
Subject: Re: *NEW 2006 Scanners*$350!!!
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"E. Scott Sykes" <[e-mail]> wrote:

>Daniel M. Conti wrote:
>>
>> Ronald Coursey <[e-mail]> wrote:
>>
>> >I have 10 brand new sealed in the box Radio Shack scanners - these are
>> >brand new not refurbs or serviced they are NEW!
>> >Selling for $350 each firm.
>> >General Device Instruments
>> >408-241-7376
>>
>> >Fed-X shipping US $15 (2 Day Air) COD add $5
>> >We take Visa and Master Card as long as shipment is to the same
>> >address that the bank send you your bill.
>>
>> >Please ask for Ron Coursey
>>
>> >Sorry we only have 10
>>
>> Will these include the standard Radio Shack warranties?
>>
>> If not, they ARE NOT brand new.
>> [e-mail]
>> Compuserve - 71242,1774        Amateur Radio - N2TYB
>> Ridgefield, New Jersey

>Aren't we being a little too literal? Thier company can offer the
>warranty as did Grove, EEB and others.
Maybe..but who is "their company?"

It is a damn good radio...

I agree

 I have  two and would buy more if I could justify it (wife and all).
Coupled  with the OS456  a good ant. and Scan*Star for Windows
Software it is  hard to beat for the expense.

Caveat Emptor
[e-mail]
Compuserve - 71242,1774        Amateur Radio - N2TYB
Ridgefield, New Jersey




From [e-mail] Fri Sep 27 22:18:07 1996
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From: Ronald Coursey <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: 10 New 2006 Scanners
Date: Thu, 19 Sep 1996 17:22:09 -0700
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I have 10 brand new sealed in the box Radio Shack scanners - these are
brand new not refurbs or serviced they are NEW!
Selling for $350 each firm.
General Device Instruments
408-241-7376

Fed-X shipping US $15 (2 Day Air) COD add $5
We take Visa and Master Card as long as shipment is to the same
address that the bank send you your bill.

Please ask for Ron Coursey

Sorry we only have 10


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From: [e-mail] (D Stark)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: 10_codes
Date: Sun, 22 Sep 96 16:50:52 GMT
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In article <01bba84c$76861460$5667e3c7@jfmil>, "Jeffrey Miller" <[e-mail]
t> wrote:
>
>
>Susan <[e-mail]> wrote in article <51k0ss$[e-mail]>...
>>         10-Calls
>[snip]
>>         10-0  Caution                           10-51 Wrecker needed
>>         10-1  Unable copy-change location       10-52 Ambulance needed
>>         10-2  Signal good                       10-53 Road blocked at...
>>         10-49 Traffic light out at...
>>         10-50 Accident (F,PI,FD)
>>
>It would be helpful if you put in what city, county or state police these
>10 codes
>were for...
>
>Thanks,
>Jeff

        Those were the so-called "standard" APCO codes.


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Since about 530P EDT 09/25/96, 262.250 Mhz NBFM has
been active on and off with test counts.  The signal
is quite readable and obviously "in the clear".
FWIW, I live in NE PA and am using a Diamond Discone,
Grove Preamp and a 2005.  Anyone else listening???!!!
bill


From [e-mail] Fri Sep 27 22:18:09 1996
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From: [e-mail] (John Wilkerson)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner,alt.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: 800 reception problems
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Sonny J. Lewis ([e-mail]) wrote:
: When listening to the 800 system here in Columbus and I use an 800 antenna,
: I pick up what sounds like the control or perhaps MDT data on every
: channel;  this usually only occurs during heavy system use, and only with
: the 800 antenna.  With a 2m or 460-band antenna, usually no problems, but
: poor voice reception makes it almost unbearable.  Only noticed with a
: Pro-2026; not a problem on the others.

     Probably intermod from paging systems.  Too many 800 capable scanner
have this problem.  A strong signal from any source will wreak havok on
the 800 Mhz sections.
     Manufacturese have corrected this by adding a third stage of
conversion on high-end 800 capable scanners.

My PRO-66 and BC-855 XL all suffer from this problem.

I listen to the mobile inputs to Columbus Police and _rarely_ hear any
legitimate MDT transmissions.  Most transmissions by the mobile units are
very short.  I keep my squelch turned up all the way.  I've found this
not to be a problem, as the car is either in range or it is not.

--
     John L. Wilkerson Jr.        [e-mail]




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From: [e-mail] (Scared Poet)
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Subject: Re: 800 reception problems
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Sonny J. Lewis ([e-mail]) wrote:
: When listening to the 800 system here in Columbus and I use an 800 antenna,
: I pick up what sounds like the control or perhaps MDT data on every
: channel;  this usually only occurs during heavy system use, and only with

        It's probably cross-modulation from paging and cellular systems.
When I was in a more urban area, I'd pass occassionally near this
transmitting tower that sent out pager signals, cellular transmissions,
and probably other data transmission as well, all on different 800-900Mhz
frequencies, and every time time I went near it, my PRO-51 could barely
receive the local PD's trunked system and would instead pick up those
signals, even though I wasn't tuned in to those freqs.  It happens to a
lot of lower-priced 800-capable scanners.

        If the problem is serious, the only thing I can recommend is
either move the scanner away from any cell/paging towers that you know of
nearby, or get a scanner that has triple conversion to filter all of that
out.




From [e-mail] Fri Sep 27 22:18:11 1996
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From: [e-mail] (John Wilkerson)
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Subject: Re: 800 reception problems
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[e-mail] wrote:


: >When listening to the 800 system here in Columbus and I use an 800 antenna,
: >I pick up what sounds like the control or perhaps MDT data on every
: >channel;  this usually only occurs during heavy system use, and only with
: >the 800 antenna.  With a 2m or 460-band antenna, usually no problems, but
: >poor voice reception makes it almost unbearable.  Only noticed with a
: >Pro-2026; not a problem on the others.

: >Any ideas/suggestions/cures for this?

: Could it be paging cross channel?

      Definitely is..... also cellular phone, and 900 Mhz cordless phones.


--
     John L. Wilkerson Jr.        [e-mail]

     Coordinator of the rec.radio.cb FAQ




From [e-mail] Fri Sep 27 22:18:12 1996
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From: Harry Stuver <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: 8k battery life . Was (full range scanner)
Date: Tue, 24 Sep 1996 19:29:32 -0700
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> > sure what performance is with NiMH or Renewal type batts.
>
> I have a fairly new AR8000 that gets about 10 hours with the
> factory Nicads... perhaps yours are showing signs of age?
>
>         - EA
>
Are they putting better batteries in the 8K . My 8K is over a year
old and the stock Fuji Novel FR-700 would only last about 6 hrs.
I have used Sylva-charge 85 , Radio Shacks Hi-capacity, EH Yost Gold
1000 ma, and Golden Power MR1000 NiMH with the same results 6 hours.
I have tried charging them at different rates and can't seem to break
the six hour charge. Scanning 50 channels at half volume.
The only other radio I know eats batteries faster are the Motorola
Astros.


From [e-mail] Fri Sep 27 22:18:12 1996
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From: Edward Avila <[e-mail]>
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Harry Stuver wrote:
> > I have a fairly new AR8000 that gets about 10 hours with the
> > factory Nicads... perhaps yours are showing signs of age?

> Are they putting better batteries in the 8K . My 8K is over a year
> old and the stock Fuji Novel FR-700 would only last about 6 hrs.
> I have used Sylva-charge 85 , Radio Shacks Hi-capacity, EH Yost Gold
> 1000 ma, and Golden Power MR1000 NiMH with the same results 6 hours.

Same batteries it appears- I have the Fuji Novel FR-700's.
My volume is lower, and often I'm wearing headphones, so perhaps
that's the deal. I'm pretty sure I get ~10 w/o headphones though,
so I'll keep track of it and see.

        - EA


From [e-mail] Fri Sep 27 22:18:13 1996
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Hi all...

I am a newbie for scanners.  Got a Bearcat, and after 2 days, I am
already 'outgrowing' it.

I know, I know, its only a Uniden BC60XLT, but its something to
start.  So I am already considering in buying another one (I'll use
the '60 for quick 'n simple stuff).  Anyone with any suggestions?
All I know of is Uniden and Tandy.

Let me know, if you would.

Thanks

Tom
[e-mail]


From [e-mail] Fri Sep 27 22:18:14 1996
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Hi

Is there anyone knows, where i can find a circuit of a ACARS
decoder, or do I have to buy a commercial one ?

Henrik Hansen
------------------------
[e-mail]



From [e-mail] Fri Sep 27 22:18:15 1996
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Can anyone tell me about software for either of these. Recommendations
etc. Thanks in advance


From [e-mail] Fri Sep 27 22:18:16 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Lespaul)
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In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] wrote:
>In a previous article, "Scott A. Nelson" <[e-mail]> wrote:
>->Anybody have any Air Force One frequencies?  Thanks.
>
>Try the regular uplink/downlink freqs.- 407.850 & 415.700, you might hear
>them hook up with "Crown Control" depending on whether you are near a site.
>Also check the airport control tower.
>You wont really hear anything too exciting and they will probably "go with
>secure" soon after the link is established anyway, but give it a try.
>Phil


I just listened in on Airforce One landing here in Seattle on the regular
commercial air frequency of 126.900  I am sure they use 415 in the air
or something, but at least when landing at a commercial airport (Boeing
Airfield in this case), they use the regular freq's.  I also heard the Navy
follow planes from Whidbey Island NAS checking in on the commercial freq's
as well, letting the tower know AF1 was in sight and all that.

The person speaking on board was very interesting to hear.  VERY good signal,
with bold clearly spoken transmissions, unlike normal airline-speak.  Every
transmission ended with an identifier of 'Air Force One'.

Just as a footnote, yesterday I was stuck in the unbelievably HUGE rolling
backup on Interstate 5 behind the presidential bus-motorcade.

Dave


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From: [e-mail] (Bob)
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>
>In a previous article, "Scott A. Nelson" <[e-mail]> wrote:
>->Anybody have any Air Force One frequencies?  Thanks.
>


I have also heard AF1 in the 240-400 MHz range.  I have only heard it
scramble once, but I have also never heard anything important.  I'm
sure anything important is scrambled.

When the President is onboard it identifies as "Air Force One," when a
VIP other than the president is onboard it is usually identified as
"Executive One Foxtrot."

If no VIP's are onboard it will ID as "SAM TWO SEVEN THOUSAND."

At least that's what I've read over the years.

Here's a little did-ya-know:

When Richard Nixon resigned, his resignation was to officially take
place some time after his announcement.  He was in Air Force One when
the resignation was put into effect, and the pilot had to change ID's
in midair, because since the President was no longer onboard, the plane
was no longer AF1.

This could all be urban legend though.



From [e-mail] Fri Sep 27 22:18:18 1996
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Just last week, when the first lady was in town, I monitored traffic on
415.700. "Crown Crown Executive One Foxtrot" was heard. What or who is
Crown??


From [e-mail] Fri Sep 27 22:18:18 1996
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I am looking for air freq for virgina and maryland area please post a
relpy here and i will get them

jason


From [e-mail] Fri Sep 27 22:18:19 1996
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From: [e-mail] (HH357)
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In article <51voqg$[e-mail]>, [e-mail]
(Drew Durigan) writes:

>     be American, so they could make the big bucks.
>>> >       Peter Jennings, Michael J. Fox, Alex Trebeck,
>>> >       Paul Shaffer, William Shatner.
>>>
>>> You ask any of those people whether they consider themselves
>Canadians
>>> or Americans, and they will proudly say they are Canadian.
>>Yes, but they want AMERICAN DOLLARS.
>
>Which, last time I checked, were worth 40-50% more than CANADIAN DOLLARS.
>
>
>Guess that's why they're here, getting paid big bucks in AMERICAN
DOLLARS,
> right?
>
>

No.   They're here to bring Canadian socialism to us.
That way we can all suffer.
                    cheers


From [e-mail] Fri Sep 27 22:18:30 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Watcher5)
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[e-mail] wrote:

>My first encounter with Canadian money came in 1977, when, as a child on
>vacation (in Florida) with my parents, I was given a Canadian bill as a
>rememberance from a girl I had met.  The Canadian bill had a red hue
>rather than good old green, and instead of a picture of a great elected
>official, it bore the likeness of a woman who gained celebrity by having
>not yet died.

Ah.  The good 'ol $2 bill.  Those are getting rare these days.  As for
the colours (notice PROPER spelling!) of our currency (green, red,
blue, brown, purple, violet, etc.).  It's because of the colours and
other factors that allow our government to spend much less money
fighting counterfeit bills than yours!  Of course, you guys could also
save money by ending duplication of police services.  I mean you seem
to have an agency for EVERYTHING (and they still can't seem to lower
your HIGH crime rate).  You have ATF, FBI, state troopers, local
police, county police, sheriffs, marshals, highway patrol, Secret
Service....  Here in Canada, most of that stuff is handled by the
RCMP.  Major cities have their own police, two provinces have
provincial police.  And we have a MUCH lower crime rate (befitting of
the best country in the world to live).



From [e-mail] Fri Sep 27 22:18:31 1996
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 Porchnoy <[e-mail]> writes:

>> the colours (notice PROPER spelling!)
>        Yes, the proper spelling for your
>        tiny, little country.
Hmmm..

United States of America 3,539,341 sq mi.
Canada                            3,851,809 sq mi.

Anyhow this does not belong here so no one reply! Thank-you!
Peace from Canada!





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[e-mail] wrote:
>
>  Porchnoy <[e-mail]> writes:
>
> >> the colours (notice PROPER spelling!)
> >        Yes, the proper spelling for your
> >        tiny, little country.
> Hmmm..
>
> United States of America 3,539,341 sq mi.
> Canada                            3,851,809 sq mi.
>
> Anyhow this does not belong here so no one reply! Thank-you!
> Peace from Canada!
It was in reference to influence in the world.
Don't tell me not to post.
--
        When one has a chance to annoy
        people, one should do so.
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From [e-mail] Fri Sep 27 22:18:36 1996
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Drew Durigan ([e-mail]) writes:


>>Yes, but they want AMERICAN DOLLARS.
>
> Which, last time I checked, were worth 40-50% more than CANADIAN DOLLARS.
>
    Once AGAIN, your facts are WRONG!  Today, the Canadian Dollar is worth
about 73 cents American.  Not quite 50%.

   The reason any Canadian works in the U.S., is the fact that due to the
higher population, there is more opportunity for jobs, and therefore more
jobs available (duh).  If you were unemployed (if you're not already), and
a company in Canada offered you a job, if you had any brains, you'd take
it.  Think about it.

> Guess that's why they're here, getting paid big bucks in AMERICAN DOLLARS,
>  right?
>
> -Drew in Sunny Central Florida-
>
>


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From [e-mail] Fri Sep 27 22:18:37 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Robert E. Edmunds)
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Subject: Re: AMERICAN DOLLARS
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HH357 ([e-mail]) writes:
>>
>>Guess that's why they're here, getting paid big bucks in AMERICAN
> DOLLARS,
>> right?
>>
>>
>
> No.   They're here to bring Canadian socialism to us.
> That way we can all suffer.
>                     cheers

Hahhahahahahahaahaahahahahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa a a ack ac oooh, stop
that hurts, Canadian socialism, what a gas.




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Porchnoy ([e-mail]) writes:
> Watcher5 wrote:
>> the colours (notice PROPER spelling!)
>       Yes, the proper spelling for your
>       tiny, little country.

   Tiny? Little? country.  And AGAIN the facts are WRONG,  in reality it
is the LARGEST country in the world (well, depending what you consider
countries left of the former U.S.S.R.)   MUCH larger than the U.S.  We
just don't have to squeeze five zillion people into one square mile, and
hope they all act like humans and not try to exterminate each other.


>       Ask anyone, anywhere in the world
>       whether they would like to have
>       one hundred dollars in Canadian
>       or American, and guess what they
>       would say.
> --

    Yeah, OK, the next time I'm in France, I'll ask them that.

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From [e-mail] Fri Sep 27 22:18:40 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Bill Cheek)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: antenna
Date: Tue, 24 Sep 1996 15:58:38 GMT
Organization: COMMtronics Engineering/World Scanner Report
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[e-mail] (MaD MaX) wrote:

>Does anyone have an good scanner antenna they would recomend? I have a
>pro-2006. Are the Radio Shack Discones any good?!

A discone by any other name is still a discone.  The Radio Shack
discone has to be made equal to the others, however.   The Icom
AH-7000A and the Diamond D-130J are superior to Radio Shack's, not
only because of better construction and materials, but also because a
VHF-Lo band whip is included for improved coverage of 25-100 MHz.
Radio Shack's discone performs between 100-1300 MHz.  The other two do
well between 25-1300 MHz.

You can add a shortened CB whip to the stud atop the Radio Shack
discone to enhance its low band performance, but there is still the
matter of inferior materials and construction.  The Icom and Diamond
discones are clearly the better.

Catch-22?  No discone is what you can call "good", unless your frame
of reference is to bandwidth.  They...they're very good.  Trouble is,
that very widebandedness of a discone renders its GAIN to 0-dB for all
intents and purposes.  Maybe less.

Rocks and hard spots?  Yup.  An antenna with GAIN ordinarily does not
have wideband coverage that scannists need.  So most scannists opt for
the discone and let it go at that.  But that is not the end of the
issue.  It is only the beginning..........

Bill Cheek
Scannist Extraordinaire



From [e-mail] Fri Sep 27 22:18:40 1996
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From: [e-mail] (William Lannigan)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Any Mods For The Bearcat CS-150 (Sportcat)?
Date: Sun, 22 Sep 96 13:18:47 GMT
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Hi. I just bought a Uniden Bearcat CS-150 (Sportcat). Do you know of any
modifications that can be made in order to receive new millitary frequencies
currently blocked out (255-399.9875 MHz)? Any help would be appreciated. Thank

you.


From [e-mail] Fri Sep 27 22:18:41 1996
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From: [e-mail] (^RacerX^)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Any or all freq. for Warwick NY
Date: Tue, 24 Sep 1996 19:54:04 GMT
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I live in Warwick NY.I'm looking for a list of any and/or all freq I
can monitor.Also,I live in a town house,and am interested in any plans
for a home brew outdoor "stealth" antenna.
    Thanks, [e-mail]
  ^RacerX^


From [e-mail] Fri Sep 27 22:18:42 1996
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From: "Robert H. Eisner" <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: Any or all freq. for Warwick NY
Date: Tue, 24 Sep 1996 19:49:58 -0700
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^RacerX^ wrote:
>
> I live in Warwick NY.I'm looking for a list of any and/or all freq I
> can monitor.Also,I live in a town house,and am interested in any plans
> for a home brew outdoor "stealth" antenna.
>     Thanks, [e-mail]
>   ^RacerX^

Check out the following URL:

 http://www.li.net/~j4dice/frequencies/NewYork/orange.html

It contains frequencies for most of Orange County (including Warwick).

Bob


From [e-mail] Fri Sep 27 22:18:43 1996
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From: "Jeffrey Miller" <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: AOR AR2700 - Do you like yours?
Date: 22 Sep 1996 06:17:52 GMT
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Jon Van Allen <[e-mail]> wrote in article
<51i47j$[e-mail]>...

> I've been toying with buying the AR-2700, I would appreciate a few hands
> on comments before taking the plunge.

Just got mine and I love it...  The only problem is the included antennas.
If you are
using this as your main base scanner use an outdoor antenna even if hung
from
your ceiling (like mine) the reception will dramatically improve.

Good Luck


From [e-mail] Fri Sep 27 22:18:49 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Mark Fellhauer)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: AR2700 DS 2700 Descrambler
Date: 22 Sep 1996 23:10:14 -0700
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I ordered the DS2700 descrambler board from EEB last week and received
it from them in two days, normal shipping.  Good work from the people
at EEB.  They know product and ship promptly.

Installation is pretty simple, but the supplied instructions are
wrong.  Fortunately the correct installation procedure is available on
the Official AR2700 Web Page.  The only problem is that they leave out
one important initialization step.  When you select "SS On" during
initialization you must then hit the enter key before powering the
system down.  This will "set" the SS option for use later.  I know
most people are aware that the enter key must be pressed to do this,
but it is not stated and it took me two or three tries to figure it
out on my own.

Fortunately I own a cordless phone with audio inversion scrambling so
test-out was a snap.  I'm happy to report that the unit works well.
It induces a small squeal into the audio when in operation, but it is
liveable.  I have no idea if this is common in audio inversion
descramblers (the kits) found on the market, but I assume it is.
Since most kits run $50 or so, the small extra cost of the internal
descrambler card is well worth it, since it requires no assembly,
makes one less box to carry around, and provide power for.

Now I need to find software that supports the descrambler mode.   Does
anyone know of any?  I think ScanCat Gold provides an option for
custom programming, but I really don't like that software, especially
'cause it's DOS based.  Plus I have no idea if the AR2700 has control
codes for descrambling via an interface.  Can anyone provide an
answer?

Thanks and 73,

Mark



From [e-mail] Fri Sep 27 22:18:50 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Bill Cheek)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner,alt.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: ATTENTION Scanner Users who want their Discriminators Wired
Date: Fri, 27 Sep 1996 03:35:06 GMT
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"E. Scott Sykes" <[e-mail]> wrote:

>> >When would I need or want this if I already have a OS456 and all kinds
>> >if recording devices? POCSAG WEFAX ACARS decoding?
>>
>> I don't know.  I didn't address my response to you.  I responded to
>> Evan Platt's inquiry.

>Then I guess it wasn't my drift. I did address my response to you and
>this newsgroup, as you did. Maybe it was a butt-in........

Noooo, just that Mr. Platt asked a question and I replied to address
the question.  It was not related to, nor did it raise any questions
about YOUR needs or wants.

Your post was kind of confusing on that basis, since I didn't know you
were concerned about it.

Bill Cheek
Scannist Extraordinaire



From [e-mail] Fri Sep 27 22:18:51 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Michael R. Erb)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Base Scanner Antenna query
Date: Mon, 23 Sep 1996 15:58:34 -0400
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I'd like to install an outside antenna to be used with my BC3000xlt.

Can I run the cable into a 3-way splitter so that I can use the scanner in
different rooms, without degrading performance much?

What is the longest length of coax I should use to avoid experiencing
significant performance loss?

Looking through scanner world catalog, I see lots of antennas but how is
one to decide what works and what is crap?

Any help would be appreciated.

Michael

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From [e-mail] Fri Sep 27 22:18:52 1996
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The BC-8500 has a backlit panel.  Anyone know of a way
to dim the "dim" setting even more?  Dim is still too
bright in a darkened room.
TIA
bill


From [e-mail] Fri Sep 27 22:18:53 1996
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Subject: BC3000 Case
Date: Fri, 20 Sep 1996 09:15:56 -0700
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Does anybody know of a place in the SF Bay Area I can buy a case for a
BC3000. Either the BC case or a cell phone case that will work. I would
like to get it as soon as possible so mail order is out.

Thanks
Monty

[e-mail]


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From: George La Belle <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Bearcat 8500XLT mods?
Date: Sun, 22 Sep 1996 22:13:10 -0700
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Any mods available for the 8500XLT?

Would like to get *ALL* frequencies within its range.

Thanks
George


From [e-mail] Fri Sep 27 22:18:55 1996
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From: Karl Schultz <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Bearcat 9000XLT-Request Info Please
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Ham wrote:
>
> I'm considering purchasing a new scanner & am interested in the 9000.
> Uniden's website shows that the 9000 scans from 25-1300 mhz but are
> there any freqs locked out?

The celluar freqs are locked out.

> What exactly is VFO Control

The large tuning knob has two modes - FREQ and CHAN.  In CHAN
mode, turning the knob takes you up or down to the next channel
and whatever frequency is programmed into it.  IN FREQ mode,
turning the knob changes the current frequency by whatever
the current step size is.  The default step size depends on the
band you are in, but can be changed.  I think this is what you
mean by VFO control.

> & Alpha Display.

When you program a channel with a frequency, you can optionally
enter some alpha characters that are displayed when the channel
is active and the display is in ALPHA mode.  I think that there
are 16 chars available per channel.

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From [e-mail] Fri Sep 27 22:18:55 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Evan Platt)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Bearcat 9000XLT-Request Info Please
Date: Sat, 21 Sep 1996 05:55:50 GMT
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It does. There are some blocked freq's, I'm not sure where.. 870-890
(Cell phones) and some UHF TV Audio??? The 9000 is IMHO a kick butt
scanner.. VERY nice. VFO is Variable Frequency Oscillater. Similiar to
a dial on a FM radio (older dial) can move through freq's or channels
like FM radio.. Alpha Display is just that. 14 charachters!! Instead
of 482.6125, you can display Palo Alto Police Ch 1(err.. is that too
many?). Plus, PL is available! VERY nice scanner..

[e-mail] (Ham) wrote:

>I'm considering purchasing a new scanner & am interested in the 9000.
>Uniden's website shows that the 9000 scans from 25-1300 mhz but are
>there any freqs locked out? What exactly is VFO Control & Alpha
>Display. Thanx.
>Have a good one,
>                Chuck
>                [e-mail]
>                http://www.dtx.net/~cbart



From [e-mail] Fri Sep 27 22:18:56 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Bob)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Beartracker BCT-7 For Sale
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You can buy a BCT-7 in most any truck stop for $159.

Stephen Chan <[e-mail]> wrote:

>Beartracker BCT-7 for sale.  Like new (2 months) in box with all
>accessories, including Grove No-Tenna, which is a vast improvement over
>the "suction cup" antenna which comes standard.  $175.00 for complete
>package.
>
>e-mail to: [e-mail]



From [e-mail] Fri Sep 27 22:18:58 1996
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Beartracker BCT-7 for sale.  Like new (2 months) in box with all
accessories, including Grove No-Tenna, which is a vast improvement over
the "suction cup" antenna which comes standard.  $175.00 for complete
package.

e-mail to: [e-mail]


From [e-mail] Fri Sep 27 22:19:03 1996
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From: [e-mail] (BILL WATTS)
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-=> Quoting Jay Vise to All <=-

 JV> Subject: Bill C repost
 .....
 JV> infer it. Understand the diff? We learned  this in the 10th grade in
 JV> LOUISIANA, for cripe's sake; and in public school, at that.

 >>As for titles, sometimes I am CEO. Sometimes CIO.  Sometimes CFO.
 JV> Sometimes administrator.  >>Sometimes assembler.  Sometimes designer.
 JV> Sometimes drafter.  Sometimes engineer.  Sometimes floor scrubber and
 JV> bottle washer.  Titles are for those who don't know what they are
 JV> supposed to be doing.

 JV> Every one of the aforementioned "titles" should have been seperated
 JV> by a hyphen or, in the best of worlds, a comma.   EXAMPLES OF CORRECT
 JV> USAGE:  "Sometimes-engineer.
 JV> Sometimes-floor-scrubber-and-bottle-washer."


 JV> Ordinarily, this type of illiterate crap simply washes over me
 JV> on the web.  However, this pseudo-intellectual claims to have
 JV> engineering degrees across the board, so I have to call his hand.  He
 JV> appears to be a bit sloppy in his English and grammar, and I'd like him
 JV> to respond to this issue.

I guess they didn't teach you the difference between the words
'repost' and 'riposte' in Louisiana, huh? Please respond. (snicker.)

... Bill Watts  ex-Cape Codder  [e-mail]




From [e-mail] Fri Sep 27 22:19:04 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Eric Oyen)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Bill's & Bob's Support
Date: Tue, 24 Sep 1996 04:20:20 GMT
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John Mackey KA0SSF <[e-mail]> wrote:

>Jason J. Garcφa wrote:

>> Bill is one of the few around who can at least partly live off scanning.

>He lives off bullshitting the public.

You know, thats a lot more than can be said for you Johnny. He (Bill) makes a
decent
living by publishing factual information on a yearly basis. I even have some o
f his work
in talking book cassettes!

What have you to show for your contribution?
Nothing, huh? Thought so.





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Richard Kendrick wrote:


> John Mackey KA0SSF <[e-mail]> wrote:
> >Jason J. Garcφa wrote:
> >> Bill is one of the few around who can
> >He lives off bullshitting the public.


> Nice work if you can get it.

and if you have no ethics.




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From: [e-mail] (Richard Kendrick)
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John Mackey KA0SSF <[e-mail]> wrote:

>Richard Kendrick wrote:

>
>> John Mackey KA0SSF <[e-mail]> wrote:
>> >Jason J. Garcφa wrote:
>> >> Bill is one of the few around who can
>> >He lives off bullshitting the public.

>
>> Nice work if you can get it.

>and if you have no ethics.

Seems like the pot calling the kettle black.


Richard Kendrick CET WA7TWI           |
Amateur Radio Extra Class             |  Do not adjust your mind, there
QRP #4129/G-QRP #8591/MI-QRP #M-1412  |  is a fault in reality.
Mesa, AZ  email: [e-mail]  |



From [e-mail] Fri Sep 27 22:19:06 1996
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From: Ronald Coursey <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Brand New 2006 Scanners $350!
Date: Thu, 19 Sep 1996 17:21:49 -0700
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I have 10 brand new sealed in the box Radio Shack scanners - these are
brand new not refurbs or serviced they are NEW!
Selling for $350 each firm.
General Device Instruments
408-241-7376

Fed-X shipping US $15 (2 Day Air) COD add $5
We take Visa and Master Card as long as shipment is to the same
address that the bank send you your bill.

Please ask for Ron Coursey

Sorry we only have 10


From [e-mail] Fri Sep 27 22:19:07 1996
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From: Ronald Coursey <[e-mail]>
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Date: Fri, 20 Sep 1996 22:38:32 -0700
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This is the last of the Best!
I have a very large number of brand new late ser# PRO-2006 Radio Shack
Scanners - new in the box! The scanners are only $350. US
and $15 for Fed-X shipping 2 Day Air Shipping, COD please Add $5.
Cert Fund only if COD. Credit Cards welcome as long as ship to address
is the same as bill to from your bank.

30 Day Money Back warranty

If you Mod the scanner or open the case, you will void any return
policy.

These are brand new not refurbs or servied stock - it is the last lot of
2006
in the United States.

General Device Instruments
2348 Karen Dr #6
Santa Clara CA 95050
408-241-7376 Voice
408-241-6375 Fax
408-983-1234 BBS
[e-mail] E-mail
www.generaldevice.com Web

We are in the IC Device Programmer Business - the scanner deal was a
lucky deal I worked
last week. Dealers are welcome 10 QTY Min order (FIRM)

Please ask for ROnald COursey


From [e-mail] Fri Sep 27 22:19:08 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Bill Cheek)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.swap,alt.radio.scanner,rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Bug (fm transmitter)
Date: Sun, 22 Sep 1996 10:18:32 GMT
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Dan <[e-mail]> wrote:

>I am looking for a small bug (fm transmitter)
>I need one that is out of range of *most* scanners.
>looking for one in these freqs:
>
>55 to 80 mhz
>175 to 380 mhz
>or any other odd freq!
>
>I dont want one of these cheep 89 to 108 mhz fm kit jobs that just
>anyone can hear.
>
>Who sells such a critter????????

I don't sell them, but I designed a real motherhummer of an RF
listening device and published it in a series of articles in recent
back issues of the "World Scanner Report".  If you can solder and
round up parts, you can probably make it.

The cool thing is that is very, very good.  Rock solid frequency of
choice, and the detection sensitivity is so good it will pick up
whispering in a room from 15-ft away.

You can FTP the Index to the World Scanner Report as well as its Table
of Contents from my FTP site.  That way you can peruse the titles and
keyword index to see if the project might appeal to you.

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From [e-mail] Fri Sep 27 22:19:09 1996
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From: [e-mail] (VEGGIEPETA)
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Subject: buzz sound
Date: 22 Sep 1996 08:02:04 -0400
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I own a BearTracker BCT7.  When I am in 800-900 freq.  I hear a buzz after
about 10-15secs. and that freq cuts out.  I am using the hold button at
that time too.  What gives?  Thanx.


From [e-mail] Fri Sep 27 22:19:10 1996
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From: Dan K Nelson <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Can't we all just get along?
Date: Sat, 21 Sep 1996 13:37:32 -0700
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[e-mail] wrote:
>
>... Now I see a silly little argument going
> back and forth between people who have never met in person and all I can
> think of is this:  Why is it that on the internet we are so much more
> willing to go to extremes with people than in person?
>...
>...
> What I propose is this:  Each of the combatants write ONE position paper
> on the subject, have your say, then shut the hell up about it.  Then,
> perhaps, this newsgroup can once again be informative, enlightening and
> less Melrose.


Right On!!!!!

I also have read these childish posts by what I had assumed were adult
persons. This is a public forum, and I am sure the majority of readers could
care less about these petty personal feuds. If the combatants wish to
continue their little war, maybe they could use E-mail instead of this
forum. I, for one, could do without all this meaningless dribble...

*--==<<< DAN >>>==--*
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From [e-mail] Fri Sep 27 22:19:11 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Bill Cheek)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Can't we all just get along?
Date: Sun, 22 Sep 1996 01:07:33 GMT
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>[e-mail] wrote:

> What I propose is this:  Each of the combatants write ONE position paper
> on the subject, have your say, then shut the hell up about it.  Then,
> perhaps, this newsgroup can once again be informative, enlightening and
> less Melrose.

I developed the procedure for calibrating and adjusting X-301 in the
PRO-2004/5/6 scanners.  I wrote the procedure in exacting detail.  It
was submitted for extensive beta testing before I first published it
SEVERAL YEARS AGO!!  Then and only then was it published.  I reposted
it HERE as a service to the community.  The article speaks for itself
and stands on its merits - with testimonials of one after another who
performed the procedure with success.

THAT is my "position paper".  I will not write another, thank you.

It was subsequently attacked by unqualified and ill-informed people.
This kind of thing will happen again and again.  There is no solution
for it, except at the reader's end.  The reader has full and total
control over what enters and resides in his computer.  Not to mention
what enters and resides in his brain.

Incidentally, virtually everything I publish....here or on hard copy
is thoroughly tested before it is ever released.

Bill Cheek
Scannist Extraordinaire



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In <32448f84.180001515@192.188.72.19> [e-mail] (Bill Cheek)
writes:
>

>    Now all you have to do is write up a test for people
     to pass prior to reading your works.

     Seems the readers need testing before being able
     to read what you write about....

     bill
>
>
>
>It was subsequently attacked by unqualified and ill-informed people.
>This kind of thing will happen again and again.  There is no solution
>for it, except at the reader's end.  The reader has full and total
>control over what enters and resides in his computer.  Not to mention
>what enters and resides in his brain.
>
>Incidentally, virtually everything I publish....here or on hard copy
>is thoroughly tested before it is ever released.
>
>Bill Cheek
>Scannist Extraordinaire
>



From [e-mail] Fri Sep 27 22:19:13 1996
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From: John Mackey KA0SSF <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: Can't we all just get along?
Date: Mon, 23 Sep 1996 15:24:57 -0700
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Bill Cheek wrote:
> Well, some, anyway.  A few.  I think most are giggling or hurling over
> the silly attacks.  Or smirking, maybe.........


That's true.  I have received exactly THREE complainers sending me
e-mail to my e-mail address, & I have received numberous (like
about 10-12 e-mails from those who supporter.



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John Mackey KA0SSF wrote:
>
> James F. Boehner, MD wrote:
>
> > [e-mail] wrote:
> > > with 2006 in it...  Until now.  Now I see a silly little argument going
> > > back and forth between people
>
> THREE different times we have offered a truce to Bill Cheek & he only
> continues to fan the flames.
>
> Perhaps you should ask Bill why he does this.

LOL!  He's the ONLY one fanning the flames?  Pretend for just one second
that you aren't you.  You're someone else entirely.  Objectivly review
your words here.  :)


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From: [e-mail] (Bill Cheek)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Can't we all just get along?
Date: Wed, 25 Sep 1996 07:32:18 GMT
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[e-mail] wrote:

>Tsk tsk tsk... Is this your second position paper?  Can't you people
>just let it go?  Not just you, Bill, but the whole lot ya!  Let it go...
>Just walk away.  Just say no.  Just don't do it.  Run screaming from the
>room.  Change the subject.  Not only do you people argue WAY too much,
>but then you turn around and argue about how the argument was conducted!

<shrug>  What's the big deal?

>If this keeps up nobody will ever know the satisfaction of getting the
>last word in.  :)

Who cares?  <shrug>

BTW, would you mind turning your TV down a little?  It's awful loud
and induces ripples into your text.

:-))

Bill




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From: John Mackey KA0SSF <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: Can't we all just get along?
Date: Tue, 24 Sep 1996 02:59:09 -0700
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[e-mail] wrote:

> John Mackey KA0SSF wrote:
> > That's true.  I have received exactly THREE complainers sending me
> > e-mail to my e-mail address, & I have received numberous (like
> > about 10-12 e-mails from those who supporter.

> You idiot, up until a few days ago you did not have an e-mail address.

> So if one supports Bill, they are complainers.  If they support the "we"
> you always mention, they are a supporter.  What are they supporting.

You're the idiot, Joe.

People have been able to write to my fido address, which is public
knowledge & listed in the online directories.  That is "my e-mail
address" that I am referring to you fool.  I have had that address
for over a year.


Regarding what I labeled as a complainer or supporter, I relate that
to the types of e-mail I received.




From [e-mail] Fri Sep 27 22:19:16 1996
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From: John Mackey KA0SSF <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Can't we all just get along?
Date: Tue, 24 Sep 1996 03:03:11 -0700
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[e-mail] wrote:

> John Mackey KA0SSF wrote:
> > THREE different times we have offered a truce to Bill Cheek & he only
> > continues to fan the flames.

> Who is we.  Why did you jump into the battle after only 2 days of
> reading
> the newsgroup.  Why did you "we" start it in the first place.  Things


I jumped in after seeing Bill underhanded style activities in FIDO &
noticed that several people had the same complaints here to except
for a few stupid kiss-asses.



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From: "E. Scott Sykes" <[e-mail]>
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John Mackey KA0SSF wrote:
>
> [e-mail] wrote:
>
> > LOL!  He's the ONLY one fanning the flames?  Pretend for just one second
> > that you aren't you.  You're someone else entirely.  Objectivly review
>
> OK, so what's your point?

You win! game over.... NEXT!


From [e-mail] Fri Sep 27 22:19:18 1996
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From: "Jay Vise" <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: CANADIAN DOLLARS
Date: 23 Sep 1996 03:54:35 GMT
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>>>You also have a much more homogenous society than we do.  Without
getting
into racial confrontation, it is a proven fact that average test scores
are much higher among whites vs blacks and Hispanics.  The relatively
high number of minorities in this country, as oposed to Canada, brings
down the average.<<

BWAAAHAHAAA! Sorry, Drew..for a while, it looked like you were one of the
more level-headed people here, but I gotta call you on this one.  Hope ya
get back from your David Duke rally in time to read this:

1) You stated that you didn't want to get into a "racial confrontation,"
yet you spent a paragraph talking about how minorities drag down the
"average."

2)  It's actually the relatively high number of *stupid* people that brings
down the "average."

Jay in Sunny Louisiana


From [e-mail] Fri Sep 27 22:19:23 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Robert E. Edmunds)
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Subject: Re: CANADIAN DOLLARS
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Watcher5 ([e-mail]) writes:
> Porchnoy <[e-mail]> wrote:
>
>>      I've even heard of Canadian actors and news
>>      anchors in the United States pretending to
>>      be American, so they could make the big bucks.
>>      Peter Jennings, Michael J. Fox, Alex Trebeck,
>>      Paul Shaffer, William Shatner.
>
Ummmmm, how exactly would someone PRETEND to be American?  And why would,
say, an American actor make any more money than a Canadian actor doing the
same job???  I don't think the evential viewer (consumer) would know or
even care which country the person they were watching comes from.
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From [e-mail] Fri Sep 27 22:19:24 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Robert E. Edmunds)
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Subject: Re: CANADIAN DOLLARS
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Drew Durigan ([e-mail]) writes:
> [e-mail] (Watcher5) wrote:
>>
>>Porchnoy <[e-mail]> wrote:
>>
>>>     I've even heard of Canadian actors and news
>>>     anchors in the United States pretending to
>>>     be American, so they could make the big bucks.
>>>     Peter Jennings, Michael J. Fox, Alex Trebeck,
>>>     Paul Shaffer, William Shatner.
>>
>>You ask any of those people whether they consider themselves Canadians
>>or Americans, and they will proudly say they are Canadian.
>
>
> But they sure don't mind coming down here and taking our American dollars,
>  do they?
>
   Hey, if you were going to pay me more than what I'm making now at my job,
I'd move to Siberia to take the job.

  Now that you've discovered our Canadian plan to infiltrate the American
entertainment industry and and secretely drain the entire vast fortunes of
the networks and send them to Toronto, I guess we'll just have to have you
tracked down and beaten into unconsiousness with a BeaverTail.



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From [e-mail] Fri Sep 27 22:19:25 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Wally)
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Subject: Re: CB linear amps 4 Sale
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Sheesh!  Here we go again with the "Is it legal to own a CB linear if
its not hooked up"  debate.

Well I run a 400 watt mobile linear with an HR2510 with an Echo mic.
I have more fun in one evening than the hams do in a year of operating
on 75 meters!

I own the amp. I operate the amp.  I've never been caught yet!

And I don't have to worry if its hooked up or not!

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!

Wally





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From: [e-mail] (Ron Katz)
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Subject: Re: CB linear amps 4 Sale
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This is my last reply on this subject here.

This is what my ISP said when I asked about it.
They hav not give me any more details.

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To: [e-mail] (Ron Katz)
Subject: Re: CB linear amps 4 Sale  [rec.radio.swap #75746]
From: Andrew Silliker <[e-mail]>
Date: Wed, 18 Sep 1996 16:53:11 -0400

At 12:16 AM 9/18/96 GMT, you wrote:

>Any suggestions?  I'm not really all that concerned, I don't
>understand how it can be done though. If this is from interlog then we
>have a problem. If it is being done somewhere else then I can ignore
>it.   Any ideas who or what?

It looks like someone did a really good forgery. Don't know why they
chose
you, maybe you upset someone.

The article had never arrived on any of our news servers, which is
consitent
with that type of forgery. The Path: line already contained our
servers, to
the server would have rejected it.

I can't really offer any more help than that. We keep news for 2 weeks
in
all groups but alt.binaries, so I went looking for the original post
myself.
Couldn't find it.

Andy
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[e-mail] (Bill Nelson) wrote:

----------------



>Ron Katz ([e-mail]) wrote:
>
>: Its not on my server because it ordinates elsewhere. When my server
>: sees the path contains "interlog" in it, its ignored thinking its
>: already here. Thing is, its not. That's why I did not see it and only
>: the replies of others.
>
>You are being inconsistant. You said you have not seen the posting. If
>your news server does indeed act as you say, then that would be an
>indication that the post originated at your site.
>
>I think we can guarantee that it did. The post did indeed originate at
>your site. Whether the poster was at your site, or not, is another matter.
>Your system administrator could determine that for sure.
>
>Bill



From [e-mail] Fri Sep 27 22:19:27 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Andy Domonkos)
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Subject: Re: CB linear amps 4 Sale
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Anthony R. Gold ([e-mail]) wrote:
:
: Darren:
:
: How can being a licensed ham make any such difference as you claim?
:
: An FCC amateur radio license carries with it no permissions of any
: kind to own anything whatever.  If you had a license and knew how to
: read and understand it, you would already have known that.
:
: Regards,
: --
:    Tony - G3SKR / AA2PM                  email: [e-mail]
:                                                 [e-mail]
:                                         packet: g3skr@n0ary.#nocal.ca.usa.na

I guess he means that licensed hams SUPPOSEDLY know how to run a clean
station. That's not the way it is in reality these days.

Andy



From [e-mail] Fri Sep 27 22:19:28 1996
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From: Curtis Wheeler <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: CB linear amps 4 Sale
Date: Fri, 20 Sep 1996 11:06:17 -0700
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Anthony R. Gold wrote:
>
> In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] "Darren Stevens" write
s:
>
> > >
> > > : Why, it's not illegal to sell or own one...  It's illegal to USE ONE!
> > >
> > >
> >
> > Wrong,  If your not a licensed ham your not allowed to own one!! Don't
> > argue with me, read the FCC rules and regs.  Just do it and learn
> > something new for yourself!!!
>
> Darren:
>
> How can being a licensed ham make any such difference as you claim?
>
> An FCC amateur radio license carries with it no permissions of any
> kind to own anything whatever.  If you had a license and knew how to
> read and understand it, you would already have known that.

The license itself does not authorize ownership of equipment.  However
if you hold a licnese, the rule authorize possesion of equipment that
might otherwise be prohibited.  So yeah... an amateu license does give
you persmission, so to speak, to own certain equipment.

To be rhetorical, as you were with Mr. "Stevens"... If you had a license
and knew how to read the rules, you'd know that.

Please see 95.411:

"(c) The FCC will presume that you have used a linear or other RF power
amplifier if -
(1) It is in your possesion or on your premises; and
(2) There is other evidence that you have operated your CB station with
more power than allowed by CB rule 10. Sec 95.410"

It should be noted that *mere possesion* is not a violation.  Note
subparagraph (1) ends with the word "AND".  This means that any
assumption by the FCC, under this rule, that you used an amp would be
based on possession AND other evidence, as described in (2).

Licensed hams fall under a clear exception when it comes to
possession...

95.411

"(d) Paragraph (c) of this section does not apply if you hold a license
in another radio service which allows you to operate an external power
amplifier."

However - an amplifier that is capable of transmitting on 11 meters will
not get the required type accpetance required to be able to market it
for sale.  There are exception to the type accpetance rule on sale of
amps between licensed amateurs, or dealers that sell such amps to
licensed amatuers.  See 97.315 for type accpetance requirements and
exceptions.

Regards

--
Curtis
KD6ELA / GROL / PP-ASEL


From [e-mail] Fri Sep 27 22:19:34 1996
From: [e-mail] ("Anthony R. Gold")
Subject: Re: CB linear amps 4 Sale
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In article <[e-mail]>
           [e-mail] "Curtis Wheeler" writes:

> Anthony R. Gold wrote:

> > An FCC amateur radio license carries with it no permissions of any
> > kind to own anything whatever.

[Snip FCC regulations which make no mention of ownership of anything.]

That's nice, but I stick to my position.  And if you don't yet
understand the difference between concepts of ownership, possession
and use, then please check out a dictionary and then please try again.

If and when someone shows a section in Parts 95 or 97 with ownership
of equipment mentioned, I promise to pay close attention.

Actually in Part 97 there is one mention of ownership, but that
relates to the obligation of a Station Antenna Structure owner to
register it using FCC Form 854. See S 97.15(d).

Regards,
--
   Tony - G3SKR / AA2PM                  email: [e-mail]
                                                [e-mail]
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From [e-mail] Fri Sep 27 22:19:35 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Donald Gray)
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Subject: Re: CB linear amps 4 Sale
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[e-mail] (Andy Domonkos) wrote:

>Anthony R. Gold ([e-mail]) wrote:
>:
>: Darren:
>:
>: How can being a licensed ham make any such difference as you claim?
>:
>: An FCC amateur radio license carries with it no permissions of any
>: kind to own anything whatever.  If you had a license and knew how to
>: read and understand it, you would already have known that.
>:
>: Regards,
>: --
>:    Tony - G3SKR / AA2PM                  email: [e-mail]
>:                                                 [e-mail]
>:                                         packet: g3skr@n0ary.#nocal.ca.usa.n
a

>I guess he means that licensed hams SUPPOSEDLY know how to run a clean
>station. That's not the way it is in reality these days.

>Andy

Right on, Andy - The exams now-a-days are too easy! Any one can get
lucky enought to guess the right tick box answers!

However, you can hardly blame newly licenced "hams" to go for the
"black boxes" instead of home brew - To home brew a radio to the
sophistication and performance of say an AOR8000 or a FRG9600 would be
too daunting for all but the hardiest of home brewers. The (relative)
low cost and outstanding performance and ease of aquisition makes the
black box an automatic answer!

This temptation creats a culture of hams who have studied hard to get
the licence and once they have it, they have no further interest in
the technical aspect of the hobby, dont own a soldering iron and use
their wallets as the means of getting their kit - woe betides us when
the kit goes wrong!!!

Listen to any hame frequency and listen to the proud operator say that
his Yaesu/Icom/Kenwood/ etc box .. very rarely now will you hear "It's
a homebrew exciter with a pair of KT77's in the final etc"...Those
were the days...

Yup, I got my licence nearly 30 years ago after a 2 hour written (not
tickbox) exam and then a morse test to get an HF licence! - the only
way to get on the air them days, was to home brew!  And home brew test
kit to monitor what happens and how to fix it!

Most of you modern youngsters dont know your born! Pass me my walking
stick and tickle the cat's whisker again... Any one got a cohearer
(spelling?) for sale?

BTW: I have fallen to the temptations now - but I have an excuse - I
am a G3 xxx  !!!!!!


Donald Gray
Free Agent V1.0 -
Eudora Lite V1.5.4
Please do not short the output or severe damage will be caused to the fuse.
         (On a Sony power supply leaflet!)



From [e-mail] Fri Sep 27 22:19:36 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Doug Hoy)
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Subject: Re: CB linear amps 4 Sale
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In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] says:
>
>Ron Katz wrote:
>>
>> HAY! Brand new CB linear amps in box & warrenty.
>> 100 watt           $100.00
>> 300 watt           $150.00
>> 600 watt           $300.00
>> 1000 watt          $500.00
>> 2000 watt          $700.00
>> 5000 watt          enquire
>> CB radios all kinds $35 & up
>> email me for a full catalogue of radio stuff.
>I am interested. Please mail me a list!!!!!!!! Do you have mobile
>antennas also?????????
>
>BGV

To whomever originated this spoof/troll:
Good one! You got nearly everybody yacking about nothing, and even a few
near-fights. A few IRO's, some sensible users, even the hams took the
opportunity to beat their drum. And now you even got me....

Kelpie 175


From [e-mail] Fri Sep 27 22:19:37 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Jerry Sommer)
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Subject: Re: CB linear amps 4 Sale
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Message sender : [e-mail]


Having both CB radio and linear amp is trouble if the FCC comes around
but linear alone is not.
                                Jerry Sommer  30 years in CB repair.



From [e-mail] Fri Sep 27 22:19:38 1996
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Subject: Re: CB linear amps 4 Sale
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Steve Arnold ([e-mail]) wrote:
: I thought this newsgroup was for SCANNERS!!!!!!!!

You should look to where you are crossposting.  I am reading this on
rec.radio.cb (having unsubscribed to the two *.radio.scanner groups).

So, my response to this is:

No, it is not.  It is for CBs!!

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From [e-mail] Fri Sep 27 22:19:39 1996
From: [e-mail] ("Anthony R. Gold")
Subject: Re: CB linear amps 4 Sale
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In article <[e-mail]>
           [e-mail] "Curtis Wheeler" writes:

> For Christ's sake...  you are bigger nitpicker than me!

That's a bit unfair. This started when I read:

In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] "Darren Stevens" writes:
>
> Wrong,  If your not a licensed ham your not allowed to own one!! Don't
> argue with me, read the FCC rules and regs.  Just do it and learn
> something new for yourself!!!

Now here we has a post, complete with both double and triple
exclamation marks and also complete with an order not to argue with
the poster.  But the substance of the posting was complete twat.

I admit and I regret that I do have a strong aversion to seeing twat
(and twaddle, for that matter) going unchallenged in Usenet. The
problem with letting it go is that it then takes on a life of its
own, likely to be re-quoted and repeated as if it were accepted truth.

Peace.

Regards,
--
   Tony - G3SKR / AA2PM                  email: [e-mail]
                                                [e-mail]
                                        packet: g3skr@n0ary.#nocal.ca.usa.na





















  In this
> arguement it is quite easy to infer that the words "owning" and
> "possesing" can be interchangable for the purposes of discussion.  And
> besides - I clarified that in my response by agreeing in my first
> sentence that there was no authorization to own anything provided by an
> amateur amateur license but that, "so to speak", it did.  But in
> additional to snipping the regs, you snipped all of my comments...
>
> I wrote (quoting with my typos): "The license itself does not authorize
> ownership of equipment.  However if you hold a licnese, the rule
> authorize possesion of equipment that might otherwise be prohibited.  So
> yeah... an amateu license does give you persmission, so to speak, to own
> certain equipment."
>
> But hey - you're right.  The FCC won't ask you for the "pink slip" on
> your linear.  However - if you are not a ham, it would be illegal to buy
> a CB amp since, without a type acceptance, it would be illegal to sell
> it.  In a roundabout way, you CAN'T own one if you can't buy or build
> one.  But that changes hen you have an appropriate license.
>
> So for the rest of you that want to post arguements.  If you are
> inclined to write "own an amp" in a future post, please replace it with
> "possess an amp" ... then we can argue the points of the regs.
>
> --
> Curtis
> KD6ELA / GROL / PP-ASEL
>

--
   Tony - G3SKR / AA2PM                  email: [e-mail]
                                                [e-mail]
                                        packet: g3skr@n0ary.#nocal.ca.usa.na


From [e-mail] Fri Sep 27 22:19:40 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Dr Pepper)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner,alt.radio.scanner,rec.radio.cb,rec.radio.swap
Subject: Re: CB linear amps 4 Sale
Date: Fri, 20 Sep 1996 16:47:30 GMT
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[e-mail] ("Anthony R. Gold") wrote:

>In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] "Darren Stevens" writes
:

>> >
>> > : Why, it's not illegal to sell or own one...  It's illegal to USE ONE!
>> >
>> >
>>
>> Wrong,  If your not a licensed ham your not allowed to own one!! Don't
>> argue with me, read the FCC rules and regs.  Just do it and learn
>> something new for yourself!!!

>Darren:

>How can being a licensed ham make any such difference as you claim?

>An FCC amateur radio license carries with it no permissions of any
>kind to own anything whatever.  If you had a license and knew how to
>read and understand it, you would already have known that.

>Regards,
>--
>   Tony - G3SKR / AA2PM                  email: [e-mail]
>                                                [e-mail]
>                                        packet: g3skr@n0ary.#nocal.ca.usa.na

NOOoooo, , , , ,  BUT, , , , ,  If the amplifier operates in the Ham
bands, then it makes a difference if you are a licenced Ham.

Dr Pepper
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From [e-mail] Fri Sep 27 22:19:41 1996
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From: [e-mail](George L. Vetterle)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner,rec.radio.cb,rec.radio.swap
Subject: Re: CB linear amps 4 Sale
Date: 21 Sep 1996 05:09:43 GMT
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You can be sure that if the FCC comes knocking on your door, they have
already monitored your transmissions.  If the signal is substantially
stronger than 4 watts through whatever antennae is on your roof should
be, then they could prudently assume that you are using illegal power.
If they "request" to inspect your station and find an 11 meter capable
linear (or other illegal equipment), they will cite you and probably
seize the illegal/illegally modified equipment.  They are not concerned
with ownership, only possession.  They will have pretty much determined
in advance that you have been using it.

In <[e-mail]> [e-mail]
("Anthony R. Gold") writes:
>
>In article <[e-mail]>
>           [e-mail] "Curtis Wheeler" writes:
>
>> Anthony R. Gold wrote:
>
>> > An FCC amateur radio license carries with it no permissions of any
>> > kind to own anything whatever.
>
>[Snip FCC regulations which make no mention of ownership of anything.]
>
>That's nice, but I stick to my position.  And if you don't yet
>understand the difference between concepts of ownership, possession
>and use, then please check out a dictionary and then please try again.
>
>If and when someone shows a section in Parts 95 or 97 with ownership
>of equipment mentioned, I promise to pay close attention.
>
>Actually in Part 97 there is one mention of ownership, but that
>relates to the obligation of a Station Antenna Structure owner to
>register it using FCC Form 854. See S 97.15(d).
>
>Regards,
>--
>   Tony - G3SKR / AA2PM                  email: [e-mail]
>
[e-mail]
>                                        packet:
g3skr@n0ary.#nocal.ca.usa.na

--
George L. Vetterle
[e-mail]

"A man has to know his limitations."-Dirty Harry Callahan, MAGNUM
FORCE, Malpaso (1973)


From [e-mail] Fri Sep 27 22:19:42 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Bill Cheek)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner,alt.radio.scanner,rec.radio.cb,rec.radio.swap
Subject: Re: CB linear amps 4 Sale
Date: Sat, 21 Sep 1996 16:26:54 GMT
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Steve Arnold <[e-mail]> wrote:

>I thought this newsgroup was for SCANNERS!!!!!!!!

Well........a CB linear usually has a preamp in it that COULD be used
with a scanner, I suppose........

Or....if you were into destructive testing of scanners, you could use
a CB linear to pump 500-watts into a scanner to see if it destructs.

:-))

Bill Cheek
Scannist Extraordinaire



From [e-mail] Fri Sep 27 22:19:43 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Dr Pepper)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner,alt.radio.scanner,rec.radio.cb,rec.radio.swap
Subject: Re: CB linear amps 4 Sale
Date: Sat, 21 Sep 1996 14:53:02 GMT
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Steve Arnold <[e-mail]> wrote:

>I thought this newsgroup was for SCANNERS!!!!!!!!

And any other radios can't be scanned? or even talked about?
Dr Pepper
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From [e-mail] Fri Sep 27 22:19:48 1996
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From: T   E   I   X   E  I   R   A <[e-mail]>
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Date: 22 Sep 1996 17:30:31 GMT
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>>Ron Katz wrote:

>>> HAY! Brand new CB linear amps in box & warrenty.
>>> 100 watt           $100.00
>>> 300 watt           $150.00
>>> 600 watt           $300.00
>>> 1000 watt          $500.00
>>> 2000 watt          $700.00
>>> 5000 watt          enquire
>>> CB radios all kinds $35 & up
>>> email me for a full catalogue of radio stuff.
>>I am interested. Please mail me a list!!!!!!!! Do you have mobile
>>antennas also?????????
>>BGV



Still think unlicensed people should be able to buy transmitters??????

DT AC6TG




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bill kotarski <[e-mail]> wrote in article
<[e-mail]>...


>  YOU ARE CORRECT!!!
>  Don't forget to MENTION that when the 40 channel CB's Got approved. The
> F.C.C.  made another RULLING--- 23 channel cb's CAN NO LONGER BE SOLD,
> They may be only SOLD FOR PARTS ONLY , But you can use the 23 channel
> CB's if YOU OWNED it PRIOR to the ADDOPTION of this LAW
>

   Forgive the stupid question to follow, but I'm new here.....

   Why were the 23-chan outlawed? Higher power?

Jay


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From: "Dennis A. Mason" <[e-mail]>
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Bill Nelson wrote:
>
> Jay Vise ([e-mail]) wrote:
>
> : bill kotarski <[e-mail]> wrote in article
> : <[e-mail]>...
>
> : >  Don't forget to MENTION that when the 40 channel CB's Got approved. The
> : > F.C.C.  made another RULLING--- 23 channel cb's CAN NO LONGER BE SOLD,
> : > They may be only SOLD FOR PARTS ONLY , But you can use the 23 channel
> : > CB's if YOU OWNED it PRIOR to the ADDOPTION of this LAW
>
> :    Forgive the stupid question to follow, but I'm new here.....
> :
> :    Why were the 23-chan outlawed? Higher power?
>
> Beats me why he made that claim. They certainly are not higher power.
>
> You can still buy three channel handheld radios from Radio Shack. I see
> no reason why 23 channel radios would be banned.
>
> However, there is little reason to produce such radios, as it is just
> as easy to provide 40 channels.
>
> Bill

23 channels were not banned nor are they outlawed.
this guy has his head up his ASS>


From [e-mail] Fri Sep 27 22:19:55 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Bill Nelson)
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Subject: Re: CB linear amps 4 Sale
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Jay Vise ([e-mail]) wrote:

: bill kotarski <[e-mail]> wrote in article
: <[e-mail]>...

: >  Don't forget to MENTION that when the 40 channel CB's Got approved. The
: > F.C.C.  made another RULLING--- 23 channel cb's CAN NO LONGER BE SOLD,
: > They may be only SOLD FOR PARTS ONLY , But you can use the 23 channel
: > CB's if YOU OWNED it PRIOR to the ADDOPTION of this LAW

:    Forgive the stupid question to follow, but I'm new here.....
:
:    Why were the 23-chan outlawed? Higher power?

Beats me why he made that claim. They certainly are not higher power.

You can still buy three channel handheld radios from Radio Shack. I see
no reason why 23 channel radios would be banned.

However, there is little reason to produce such radios, as it is just
as easy to provide 40 channels.

Bill


From [e-mail] Fri Sep 27 22:19:56 1996
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From: [e-mail](George L. Vetterle)
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Subject: Re: CB linear amps 4 Sale
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I was hoping that good buddy would repost his ad so's I could order me
one of them 5 gallon jugs.  1000 Watts just ain't enough to get out
around here no more.  It's a real shame.

In <[e-mail]> Jim Wayda <[e-mail]> writes:

>
>Do not buy a CB Linear amplifier. You could be fined by the FCC and
>also serve jail time. It is not worth it.
>
>Jim Wayda

--
George L. Vetterle
[e-mail]

        provocateur (uncredentialed)


From [e-mail] Fri Sep 27 22:19:57 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Greg LaP.)
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Subject: CDN Military Freq.???
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Does any one have a list of Cdn Military freqs. which have been left
off the DOC freq. lists?????

                Greg
                [e-mail]




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Does any one have a list of Cdn Military freqs. which have been left
off the DOC freq. lists?????

                Greg
                [e-mail]




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From: [e-mail] (D Stark)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Civil Aero Band Frequency Increments?
Date: Mon, 23 Sep 96 20:27:10 GMT
Organization: NF2G Enterprises
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In article <526oek$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] wrote:
>It is my understanding that frequencies in the civil aero band are
>allocated in 25 kHz increments (i.e., 119.1, 119.125, 119.150 ...
>etc.).  However, I have notcied that pilots departing our local
>airport are instructed to contact the ARTCC on 126.37 instead of
>126.375.

        That's just ATC shorthand.  The actual frequency is
126.375.  The radios dial in 25 kHz increments, so the pilot
cannot dial 126.370 even if he misunderstands the handoff.

73 de Dave, NF2G


From [e-mail] Fri Sep 27 22:20:14 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Harold G. Peach, Jr.)
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Subject: Civil Aero Band Frequency Increments?
Date: Mon, 23 Sep 1996 19:30:31 GMT
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It is my understanding that frequencies in the civil aero band are
allocated in 25 kHz increments (i.e., 119.1, 119.125, 119.150 ...
etc.).  However, I have notcied that pilots departing our local
airport are instructed to contact the ARTCC on 126.37 instead of
126.375.

My question:  When a pilot switches to 126.37 on his aircraft radio is
the radio actually transmitting on 126.370 or 126.375?  I know that
from a practical standpoint this has no effect on my ability to
receive the transmission, but I am confused by their tendency to drop
the 5 kHz.

Also, if the radios only tune in 10 kHz increments, can the pilot
switch to a non-standard frequency such as 126.11?
---
Harold
[e-mail]



From [e-mail] Fri Sep 27 22:20:15 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Richard Kendrick)
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Subject: Re: Cordless mike freq
Date: 21 Sep 1996 07:05:02 -0700
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JimK Davis <[e-mail]> wrote:

>I just built a cordless mike and find that as I listen on the scanner that
>it's transmitting frequency increases by 5 Khz/min (58-64 sec).  It starts
>at 84.68 and just keeps climbing.  The only thing I can think of that is
>changing in the system is the battery strength.  What gives??
>--
>
>                                         -=[ JimK Davis ]=-
>                                       [e-mail]

The battery strength _could_ be the cause of your frequency drift. More likely
,
it's probably the device drifting. You didn't say if it was crystal controlled
or used a coil/capacitor combination. With such a rapid drift, I'd say you had
the coil/capacitor type. Check the parts in the frequency determining part of
the circuit. You might have to change one or two of them to reduce the drift t
o
acceptable limits. Otherwise, you might try crystal control.

Richard

Richard Kendrick CET WA7TWI           |
Amateur Radio Extra Class             |  Do not adjust your mind, there
QRP #4129/G-QRP #8591/MI-QRP #M-1412  |  is a fault in reality.
Mesa, AZ  email: [e-mail]  |



From [e-mail] Fri Sep 27 22:20:16 1996
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I just built a cordless mike and find that as I listen on the scanner that
it's transmitting frequency increases by 5 Khz/min (58-64 sec).  It starts
at 84.68 and just keeps climbing.  The only thing I can think of that is
changing in the system is the battery strength.  What gives??
--

                                          -=[ JimK Davis ]=-
                                        [e-mail]


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From: JimK Davis <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: Cordless mike freq
Date: Tue, 24 Sep 1996 10:20:55 +0000
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[e-mail] wrote:
>
> It doesn't sound to me like it's a crystal-controlled circuit.
--
No, it isn't.  It's capacitor/coil controlled.  Does this mean the drift
cannot be controlled?  And if not, does it just keep climbing? Reach a
point and start over?  Can the capacitor be replaced with a crystal, or
does it require a different printed circuit board?

Thanks.

                                          -=[ JimK Davis ]=-
                                        [e-mail]


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From: [e-mail] (Tim Moore)
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Subject: cordless phone freqs??
Date: 22 Sep 1996 22:31:04 GMT
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Anybody know all the freqs for the older 46-49mhz cordless phones?

--
Tim Moore [e-mail]
09/22/96 18:09
Transmitting LIVE from
Fredericksburg, VA





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From: "E. Scott Sykes" <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: cordless phone freqs??
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Here you go...

http://www.srs-rf.com/scanref.htm#PORT
or just
http://www.srs-rf.com/scanref.htm


From [e-mail] Fri Sep 27 22:20:19 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Clint Bradford)
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Subject: cordless phone freqs??
Date: Tue, 24 Sep 1996 18:00:00 GMT
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>>Anybody know all the freqs for the older 46-49mhz cordless phones?

Yes. And they were just posted here last week in a great "Frequently
Asked For Frequencies" post.

See if you can reset your messages to a couple hundred ago, and pick it
up!


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Steve
   As your case is on appeal, I'm sure your attorney would recommend you
don't discuss this outside the courtroom and/or his office...for your own
protection!!

>
> No I was licensed for the software from Motorola. And they stated the hex
codes
> were not legal to have. I used no passwords to set up the radio that was
only
> used by me and was only used for monitoring. the whole thing is a
political
> deal and Officers lied on the stand. In my 20 years of being a cop this
was the
> biggest joke of a trial i have ever seen. A apeal has been filed.
>                               Steve
>
>
>


From [e-mail] Fri Sep 27 22:20:20 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Bill Cheek)
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Subject: Re: Data Skip for use on trunked systems
Date: Tue, 24 Sep 1996 15:58:30 GMT
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"CDR Richard J. Nolan, Jr., USN" <[e-mail]> wrote:

>... any one have any experience with Radio  Shack or Uniden/Bearcat
>scanners monitoring trunked systems... using data-skip or simmilar
>feature... local police change the data frequency often and manual
>setting is a chore...  how well does this auto feature work>>??

The DATA SKIP feature of the PRO-26 is reputed to be buggy and largely
non-functional.  The several that came through my hands certainly did
not work properly.  The BC-3000XLT and the PRO-26 are close clones of
each other, but I don't know any more than that.  Both are made by
Uniden, but there are subtle differences between the two, of which the
BC-3000XLT may be the superior.

For the  PRO-2004, PRO-2005, PRO-2006, PRO-2035 or PRO-2042, my widely
published add-on MOD-44 Data/Tone Squelch *is* extremely effective at
enabling the scanner to disregard non-voice signals and keep right on
scanning or searching.  It is likely that's where Uniden came by the
DATA SKIP feature in the PRO-26 and BC-3000XLT.  My Data/Tone Squelch
was first published in 1990, so it's had time to get around by now.

Maybe some PRO-26 and BC-3000XLT users will pipe in with specifics.

Bill Cheek
Scannist Extraordinaire



From [e-mail] Fri Sep 27 22:20:21 1996
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From: Harry Stuver <[e-mail]>
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Date: Tue, 24 Sep 1996 13:01:47 -0700
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It is possible to quasi descramble speech inversion used by cordless
phones, DOJ and others.            ----------------
First you need a scanner that has SSB such as the AR8000.
Set your mode to LSB or USB and tune off freq. ( 1k steps at a time.)
You will hear a high freq. whine but, you can understand the traffic.
And NO this does not work for spread spectrum phones or other types
of scrambling modes.
I am not even sure if this will work for other types of scanners
that have a BFO for sideband. (the AR8000 uses carrier insertion)
It works for me !  (for test purposes only on the corlesss freqs. as
this would be illegal,and we wouldn't want to ever break the law and
monitor such activities....yeah right).

73's


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Harry Stuver <[e-mail]> wrote
> It is possible to quasi descramble speech inversion used by cordless
> phones, DOJ and others.            ----------------
> First you need a scanner that has SSB such as the AR8000.
> Set your mode to LSB or USB and tune off freq. ( 1k steps at a time.)
> You will hear a high freq. whine but, you can understand the traffic.
> And NO this does not work for spread spectrum phones or other types
> of scrambling modes.
> I am not even sure if this will work for other types of scanners
> that have a BFO for sideband. (the AR8000 uses carrier insertion)
> It works for me !  (for test purposes only on the corlesss freqs. as
> this would be illegal,and we wouldn't want to ever break the law and
> monitor such activities....yeah right).

Works with the Icom R7000 too. As with you this was only found under
controlled
labs conditions so as not to break any local or Federal laws. :-)


Glenn


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From: McGyver <[e-mail]>
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Harry Stuver wrote:
>
> It is possible to quasi descramble speech inversion used by cordless
> phones, DOJ and others.            ----------------
> First you need a scanner that has SSB such as the AR8000.
> Set your mode to LSB or USB and tune off freq. ( 1k steps at a time.)
> You will hear a high freq. whine but, you can understand the traffic.
> And NO this does not work for spread spectrum phones or other types
> of scrambling modes.
> I am not even sure if this will work for other types of scanners
> that have a BFO for sideband. (the AR8000 uses carrier insertion)
> It works for me !  (for test purposes only on the corlesss freqs. as
> this would be illegal,and we wouldn't want to ever break the law and
> monitor such activities....yeah right).
>
> 73'sIf you are looking for an Inversion type descrambler to descramble
chordless phones, you can order them from CTP. They work GREAT! Mine is
set up to be attached to my scanner. The descrammbler will work on any
scanner. They are also designed to decode some Police channels that are
scrammbled, depending on what method is used. For more info, mail me
direct at  [e-mail]  for any questions and the address.


From [e-mail] Fri Sep 27 22:20:25 1996
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From: RichardáTorrens <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: Digital Volt & / or Amp Meter
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In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail]
(Jack L. Reed) wrote:
>
> Anyone know where I can get a kit for a digital volt meter and
> /or a ditigal amp meter for 12 Volt dc model train layout ???

You won't get a 'kit' but you can get a DMM module. What exactly do you
want?

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From [e-mail] Fri Sep 27 22:20:26 1996
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From: cgoeglein <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Disneyworld & Orlando, Fl. Freqs Requested.
Date: Sat, 21 Sep 1996 14:49:32 -0400
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Raymond Miller wrote:
>
>  Can anyone advise me if there is an area on the net which contains
> a listing of frequencies for the Orlando, Florida area and the Walt
> Disneyworld theme park? I have the Per-Con CD, but as luck would have
> it, my CD drive lately refuses to read from any of my CD's. Thanks for
> any help.
> regards, Ray Miller N2NJK

We bought a book at Radio Shack that shows them all, if I remember
correctly.

Mommy Birdy and Black Powder 3



From [e-mail] Fri Sep 27 22:20:26 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Raymond Miller)
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Subject: Disneyworld & Orlando, Fl. Freqs Requested.
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 Can anyone advise me if there is an area on the net which contains
a listing of frequencies for the Orlando, Florida area and the Walt
Disneyworld theme park? I have the Per-Con CD, but as luck would have
it, my CD drive lately refuses to read from any of my CD's. Thanks for
any help.
regards, Ray Miller N2NJK


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From: [e-mail] (MEM&GWM)
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Subject: Does the LAFD use two-way radios or walkie talkies?
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Does anyone know the frequencies used by the Los Angeles Fire
Department after they arrive on scene while talking to one another in
the trucks and engines.

Are they using two-way radios or walkie-talkies? The reason I am
asking is a Light Force was dispatched to my apartment building
and after the EMS were inside I heard them talking to the engine
thru the loud speaker. But I had nothing on my scanner.

Thanx in advance for any help in the matter. I feel it is the last
piece of the puzzle for monitoring the LAFD.

Good scanning makes good friends,

Mike




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From: [e-mail] (Brian Humphrey)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Does the LAFD use two-way radios or walkie talkies?
Date: 23 Sep 1996 18:35:14 GMT
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[e-mail] (MEM&GWM) wrote:

>Does anyone know the frequencies used by the Los Angeles Fire
>Department after they arrive on scene while talking to one another in
>the trucks and engines.

Hello Mike!

Thanks for your continued interest in the Los Angeles City Fire
Department (LAFD). Anytime you or others have a question about our agency
and its endeavors, please feel free to post it here. I try to scan this
newsgroup at least three times a week.

A --complete-- list of our (24) licensed voice radio frequencies can be
found at our website. You can go directly to this official list, which
includes the PL tones, by setting your webbrowser to:

http://www.ci.la.ca.us/dept/LAFD/freqncy.htm

We also use a variety of other frequencies for Mutual Aid and the
Standard MED and HEAR frequencies for the mediacl telemetry between our
Paramedics and the medical control physicians at the "Base Station
Hospitals". These numerous frequencies an be found in the POLICE CALL,
SCAN-FAN or any of the other excellent publications available in Southern
California radio hobby shops.

BTW, the main front page for the LAFD website is:

http://www.ci.la.ca.us/dept/LAFD

You also asked...

>Are they using two-way radios or walkie-talkies?

We use a combination of:

- BASE with 9 remote transceivers/repeaters  (for contacting dispatch or
repeating fireground transmissions)

- MOBILE radios that are mounted in most of our vehicles

- CONVERTIBLE radios that are mounted in -some- of our vehicles. These
require we plug our Portables into a "gutless" control head to
communicate through the vehicles hard-wired microphone and antenna when
in the vehicle.

- PORTABLE radios, commonly referred to as "walkie talkies".

>The reason I am
>asking is a Light Force was dispatched to my apartment building
>and after the EMS were inside I heard them talking to the engine
>thru the loud speaker. But I had nothing on my scanner.

Though our radios are most often operated in the full-repeat mode (which
is why you can hear radio traffic from our personnel inside a building
more than 50 miles away), we do have the option of easily setting our
radios to simplex (non-repeat) mode for tactical information that need
not be transmitted over a long distane or is only of local interest
(residence to curbside is a perfect example).

While Tac channels are assigned by dispatch for complex incients, it is
most common for simple fire incidents to be coordinated on their Division
Operations frequency (Channel 3 in your neighborhood) and for EMS
incidents to be coordinated on Channel 10 citywide.

>Thanx in advance for any help in the matter. I feel it is the last
>piece of the puzzle for monitoring the LAFD.

You are most welcome. As any long time monitoring enthusiast will tell
you, there are always puzzles to unravel in our dynamic hobby.

>Good scanning makes good friends,

Yes it does.

Monitor Safely!

Brian Humphrey
Firefighter/Paramedic
Public Information Officer
Los Angeles City Fire Department

E-Mail: <[e-mail]>



From [e-mail] Fri Sep 27 22:20:30 1996
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From: [e-mail] (David Mark)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Does the LAFD use two-way radios or walkie talkies?
Date: 24 Sep 1996 05:09:19 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
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[e-mail] asked if LAFD uses two-way radios or
walkie-talkies for communications between units at a scene.

Walkie-talkies ARE two-way radios.

Kind of like asking if someone drives a car or an automobile.  I
have no idea what he really meant to ask.

--
(DAVID MARK) [e-mail]


From [e-mail] Fri Sep 27 22:20:31 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Clay Irving)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: EEB
Date: 22 Sep 1996 16:50:18 -0400
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In <523qch$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Joel Lefebvre) w
rites:

>I've seen some references to a company called EEB that appears to
>have good prices on scanners. Who are they ?

Electronic Equipment Bank
http://www.access.digex.net/~eeb/eeb.html

--
Clay Irving N2VKG
[e-mail]
http://www.panix.com/~clay/


From [e-mail] Fri Sep 27 22:20:31 1996
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From: "Robert H. Eisner" <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: EEB
Date: Sun, 22 Sep 1996 15:25:08 -0400
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To: Joel Lefebvre <[e-mail]>

Joel Lefebvre wrote:
>
> I've seen some references to a company called EEB that appears to
> have good prices on scanners. Who are they ?
>
> Joel

EEB is the Electronic Equipment Bank

Electronic Equipment Bank
323 Mill St Ne
Vienna, VA  22180-4575
703-938-5309

Bob


From [e-mail] Fri Sep 27 22:20:32 1996
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From: RF BURNS <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: EEB
Date: 23 Sep 1996 01:18:04 GMT
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To: [e-mail]

[e-mail] (Joel Lefebvre) wrote:
>I've seen some references to a company called EEB that appears to
>have good prices on scanners. Who are they ?
>
>Joel
>

EEB Internet address
http://www.access.digex.net/~eeb/eeb.html


Try it they gotta alot stuff at going rate
Doug





From [e-mail] Fri Sep 27 22:20:33 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Radiomatt)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re:EEB and others
Date: 22 Sep 1996 19:09:34 -0400
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There are 3 or 4 major mail order houses for Shortwave + scanners:
EEB-Electronic Equipment Bank, Vienna Virginia
Universal Radio-Reynoldsburg, OH  800 431 3939
Gilfer Shortwave - Park Ridge, NJ  1-800-GILFER1

there are others; i've dealt with all three listed above for many years;
they're ok


From [e-mail] Fri Sep 27 22:20:34 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Steve KA4IQD)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: FAF - Frequently Asked Fr
Date: Wed, 18 Sep 1996 02:09:09 GMT
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On Mon, 16 Sep 1996 18:29:00 GMT, [e-mail] (Clint
Bradford) wrote:
>
>>>FRS - Family Radio Service
>>>Channels 1 - 7 are shared with GMRS.
>
>-and-
>
>>>GMRS - General Mobile Radio Service
>>>They are shared with the Family Radio Service.
>
>Bad mis-information. Not a single specific frequency is "shared" between
>the FRS and the GMRS.

According to the information published in August Pop Comm there are 7
frequencies shared.
462.5625
462.5875
462.6125
462.6375
462.6625
462.6875
462.7125

Is this information incorrect?



--
73,
Steve KA4IQD
[e-mail]
Greetings from the Bluegrass State.  Home of the
1996 NCAA champion University of Kentucky Wildcat
basketball team.


From [e-mail] Fri Sep 27 22:20:35 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Guy Teague)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Fleet Week in SF
Date: 21 Sep 1996 11:27:16 -0400
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At least now we know where the feuding flamers are ... <g>
--
Cheers  73 de  [e-mail]  "They're out there"              K Kesey
Guy     KG5VT  [e-mail]  "Hey don't eat that yellow snow" F Zappa
------  -----    <http://www.why.net/home/gteague/gtweb.html>    -------



From [e-mail] Fri Sep 27 22:20:36 1996
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From: "Robert H. Eisner" <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Fleet Week in SF
Date: Sun, 22 Sep 1996 09:38:55 -0400
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To: Jeff Goldman <[e-mail]>

Jeff Goldman wrote:
>
> Does anyone have frequencies for the fleet week festivities in San
> Francisco to include the air shows.

Any idea on which airport will be used for the airshow?

I know the Blue Angels will be flying.

Check the following URL for Blue Angel frequencies:

  http://www.grove.net/mtblue.html#blu

Bob


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Subject: Re: Fleet Week in SF
Date: 23 SEP 96 17:31:59 GMT
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Try the fleet common freq. of 277.800. It was active during Fleet Week in
NYC, Memorial Day weekend.
Phil


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From: [e-mail] (Jeff Singer)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: FOR SALE: AOR AR2800
Date: 22 Sep 1996 02:48:56 GMT
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From [e-mail] Fri Sep 27 22:20:38 1996
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From: [e-mail] (DT)
Newsgroups: alt.radio.scanner,rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: For Sale: PRO-51 portable scanner
Date: 20 Sep 1996 19:32:59 GMT
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In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] says...
>
>This scanner is worth about $175.00 - $200.00. A PRO-43 is a
>much better scanner (triple conversion with cell phone mod)
>and sells for $175-$200 on this newsgroup..
>
>Jim Wayda
>Captain, Scanner Price Police
>
>
>Andy Engle wrote:
>>
>> The total cost for all of this stuff was around $325 ($300 for the
>> scanner, $15 for the Case Logic case, and another $10 or so for the
>> plug-in adapter). I am asking $300 for this package. This price also
>> includes shipping.
>>

The latest price I saw at RS for a Pro-51 was $299, down from $319.

DT



From [e-mail] Fri Sep 27 22:20:39 1996
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From: Jim Wayda <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: For Sale: PRO-51 portable scanner
Date: Fri, 20 Sep 1996 22:39:35 -0700
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No one pays $300 for a PRO-51. Radio Shack always has sales for $200.00.
I should know, I bought several.

Jim Wayda
Captain, Scanner Price Police


> The latest price I saw at RS for a Pro-51 was $299, down from $319.
>
> DT


From [e-mail] Fri Sep 27 22:20:40 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Susan)
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Subject: Forsale
Date: 24 Sep 1996 10:42:22 -0400
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I'm selling the following:

AOR 2500  - NOW -> $300

Or will trade for
PRO 2006 or PRO 43 or C508A or WS1000

This is a desktop/mobile unit
Full Cellular, AM/FM/NFM/SSB

OTHER STUFF:

ICOM 2GXAT 2m extended RX - $200 -> now $180.

E-mail any questions.

Richard Reider



From [e-mail] Fri Sep 27 22:20:40 1996
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Subject: Fortezza encryption card
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Need one that fits PCI slot.
                                Jerry


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Message sender : [e-mail]


Need one that fits PCI slot.
                                Jerry



From [e-mail] Fri Sep 27 22:20:42 1996
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Re: Franτais!
Il y en a




From [e-mail] Fri Sep 27 22:20:43 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Mark L9)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Freqs. for SLC, Provo area?
Date: 20 Sep 1996 05:51:25 -0400
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Get a copy of "MONITOR AMERICA".  It covers most major cities in the US,
including the Provo and SLC areas.


From [e-mail] Fri Sep 27 22:20:43 1996
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From: Gross <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Frequency Question
Date: Sun, 22 Sep 1996 04:34:26 -0700
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I just have one small question.  I live in a small town in the middle of
Kansas, USA.  I've heard a lot about shuttle transmissions and
retransmissions, but I haven't been able to pick up any.  Does anyone
know what frequencies I should try to receive the space shuttle and MIR
Space Station transmissions?  Also, if anyone has any more info on
frequencies used by the military that are out of the 220-406 range?  I
myself own a pro-2026.

Jeff
[e-mail]


From [e-mail] Fri Sep 27 22:20:44 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Michael Alexander)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: FS: AOR 8000
Date: Sun, 22 Sep 1996 06:55:15 -0400
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In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Steve Work) wrote
:

> Mr. Ira M. Lipson ([e-mail]) wrote:
> : One year old AOR 8000, full coverage, modified to use with Scout.
> : Leather case.
>
> : Asking $600 + shipping + COD.
>
> New ones can be had for that, you might want to come down a little on
> your asking price.  True, you're adding in the case and the Scout mods,
> but I think your price is too close to that of a new one.

You can buy it for about $600 with the mod and leather case new.

--
Michael Alexander
[e-mail]


From [e-mail] Fri Sep 27 22:20:45 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Daniel M. Conti)
Subject: Re: FS: AOR 8000
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Nick Marsh <[e-mail]> wrote:

>Daniel M. Conti wrote:
>>
>> [e-mail] (Steve Work) wrote:
>>
>> >Mr. Ira M. Lipson ([e-mail]) wrote:
>> >: One year old AOR 8000, full coverage, modified to use with Scout.
>> >: Leather case.
>>
>> >: Asking $600 + shipping + COD.
>>
>> >New ones can be had for that, you might want to come down a little on
>> >your asking price.  True, you're adding in the case and the Scout mods,
>> >but I think your price is too close to that of a new one.
>>
>> I agree...
>>
>> Hate to be a spoil sport, Ira, but I picked up one MINT, open
>> cellular, with Scout mod, (no case) for $400.00......
>> [e-mail]
>> Compuserve - 71242,1774        Amateur Radio - N2TYB
>> Ridgefield, New Jersey


>Boy, I'd like to find a mint 8000 with Scout mod for $400....

>Nobody in their right mind would pay $600 though when eeb has them NIB
>for $588.

>Nick


Nick,

Keep your eyes on the postings, and make offers!

Actually, I found mine on the CSERVE, Hamnet Swap Shop.  Someone there
was selling one for someone else...that type of thing.  The guy was
overwhelmed by the AR8000, and wanted to dump it for something more
"simple"
[e-mail]
Compuserve - 71242,1774        Amateur Radio - N2TYB
Ridgefield, New Jersey




From [e-mail] Fri Sep 27 22:20:46 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Tim Moore)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: FS: CB Linear - 4sale
Date: 24 Sep 1996 12:45:55 GMT
Organization: InterSerF.net, Fredericksburg, Virginia, USA
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I have an older CB linear in my attic that I wish to sell. Anybody
interested just E-mail me. Its a tube rig with 200+ watts.

--
Tim Moore [e-mail]
09/24/96 08:24
Transmitting LIVE from
Fredericksburg, VA




From [e-mail] Fri Sep 27 22:20:47 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Greg LaP.)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: FS: freqs. for N.S.
Date: Tue, 24 Sep 1996 12:00:55 GMT
Organization: Seimac Limited
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 Moving around the province or just got that new scanner.  Don't be
fooled by the frequencies that some people give you, be sure ! ! !
I have two of the latest lists of frequencies for Nova Scotia.  From
2 Mhz to 23.4 Ghz.  I can land mail a diskette, e-mail you the two
lists for only  $10.00.  Each list is about 1 Meg long (200 pages).
These lists are far better than those $ 24.95 Scanner Books out there.

                        Greg
                        [e-mail]




From [e-mail] Fri Sep 27 22:20:48 1996
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From: "J & A Leasure" <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: alt.radio.scanner,rec.radio.scanner
Subject: FS: Motorola MTX-800 (800 Trunked HH Radio)
Date: 22 Sep 1996 01:54:35 GMT
Lines: 9
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I understand that the only sure way to monitor trunked systems is to
program your own radio to listen. Well I have one for sale. I don't know
the specs. Please let me know if you have any an interest or any
information. I will take offers and consider trades on scanners, commercial
or ham radio equipment..

THX!!!

Please reply to [e-mail]


From [e-mail] Fri Sep 27 22:20:48 1996
From: [e-mail] (Christopher Barbosa)
Subject: FS: Opto scout & Icom W2A
Date: 21 Sep 96 07:05:50 -0700
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
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Optoelectronics Scout 25 for sale   Ver. 2.0 - Mint Condition in box W/Charger
- $300.00 Delivered

Icom W2a Dual Band HT W/Speaker Mic & Leather Case. Charger cord, 2
Baterries,  Modefied for extended TX & RX - $ 300.00

Email me:

        [e-mail] or
        [e-mail]


From [e-mail] Fri Sep 27 22:20:49 1996
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From: Ron M <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.swap,rec.radio.scanner,alt.radio.scanner
Subject: FS: OPTO456 Software
Date: Fri, 20 Sep 1996 22:18:42 -0700
Organization: TELIS
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ScannerWEAR Softcontrol software ver. 1.4 and upgrade 2.0. All origional
discs and manual. $55.00 incl ship in USA.


From [e-mail] Fri Sep 27 22:20:50 1996
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From: "E. Scott Sykes" <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.swap,rec.radio.scanner,alt.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: FS: OPTO456 Software
Date: Sat, 21 Sep 1996 10:05:02 -0300
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Why are you selling this software? What did you buy instead?


From [e-mail] Fri Sep 27 22:20:51 1996
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From: "E. Scott Sykes" <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.swap,rec.radio.scanner,alt.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: FS: OPTO456 Software
Date: Sat, 21 Sep 1996 10:05:02 -0300
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Why are you selling this software? What did you buy instead?


From [e-mail] Fri Sep 27 22:20:52 1996
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From: Ron M <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.swap,rec.radio.scanner,alt.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: FS: OPTO456 Software
Date: Fri, 23 Sep 1996 00:52:17 -0700
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"E. Scott Sykes" <[e-mail]> wrote:

>Why are you selling this software? What did you buy instead?

Because I want to asswhole. Whats it your business?
I'll tell you its because it isn't worth a crap and I
already sold that piece of shit OS456 to another fool.
Now I need to dump the software. Are you a OS456 monger?
Whats Optoelec paying you?



From [e-mail] Fri Sep 27 22:20:52 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Rickard Faivre)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.swap,rec.radio.scanner,alt.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: FS: OPTO456 Software
Date: 24 Sep 1996 19:56:31 GMT
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In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail]
says...
>
>"E. Scott Sykes" <[e-mail]> wrote:
>
>>Why are you selling this software? What did you buy instead?
>
>Because I want to asswhole. Whats it your business?
>I'll tell you its because it isn't worth a crap and I
>already sold that piece of shit OS456 to another fool.
>Now I need to dump the software. Are you a OS456 monger?
>Whats Optoelec paying you?
>
Nice response, having a bad day?

:-) Rickard



From [e-mail] Fri Sep 27 22:20:54 1996
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From: [e-mail] (SLIboots)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: FS: PRO 2026 MOBILE CELL MODIFIABLE (flame on)
Date: 21 Sep 1996 09:56:45 -0400
Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364)
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In article <513891$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Blue dot
9) writes:

>Why don't you and the other FLAMERS (pun intended) go off to KEY WEST,
>FLORIDA and watch the FUCKING VILLAGE PEOPLE SUCK EACH OTHER'S MONKEYS!!
>
>

If this is true--that these "village people" are sucking each other's
monkeys--then someone should contact the Society for the Prevention
of Cruelty to Animals.  Or maybe People for the Ethical Treatment of
Animals.  I've heard about this monkey-sucking, and IT HAS TO END,
DAMNIT!  Dogs, cats, monkeys--they're all entitled to humane treatment.

Plus, wouldn't this be a dangerous practice for the human, as well?
Wouldn't sucking on a monkey piss it off, and maybe make it
attack?

I'll never understand how some people get their pleasure . . .


From [e-mail] Fri Sep 27 22:20:55 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Andrew Parker)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: FS: Pro-50
Date: 24 Sep 96 23:02:44 GMT
Organization: University of California, Irvine
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I have a Radio Shack Pro-50 scanner for sale. It has been turned on
exactly two times in its life. It might as well be brand new. Full LCD
display (with backlighting), 20 programmable channels. I believe it is
about $100 new. I'm asking $70. I'll pay shipping. Email me with any
questions or offers.

--
--
Andrew Parker
[e-mail]


From [e-mail] Fri Sep 27 22:20:56 1996
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From: [e-mail] (gfm)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.swap,rec.radio.scanner,alt.radio.scanner
Subject: FS: Radio Shack PRO-60
Date: 25 Sep 1996 00:52:19 GMT
Organization: Oregon State University
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Hello,

I just got my hands on a new ham that scans all the freqs I'm interested
in,  so I don't have much use for my PRO-60 anymore.  It's in excellent
condition,  (has less than 10 hours on it), and I still have the box,
manuals, etc.  Here's the features:

Total coverage from 30mhz-512, 760-824, 849-869, 894-999.9875.
  (vhf hi, low, and uhf)
Triple conversion.
200 channel (scanable), plus 10 extra storage channels.
AM, FM, WFM.
"Limited search" feature- pick two freqs and scan everything in between.
Can charge NiCd batteries.
Keylock
"back-lit" LCD

Also included:

9 volt wall adapter
Telescoping (not the factory) antenna


Asking $245, buyer pays shipping.

  -------------------------------------------------------------------------
   Robert Rose (gfm)                                     [e-mail]
   http://www.fsl.orst.edu/~rose                            [phone]


From [e-mail] Fri Sep 27 22:20:56 1996
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From: Jeffrey Maas <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: FS: RS PRO 50
Date: Tue, 24 Sep 1996 16:51:55 -0700
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I have a RS PRO 50 that I will posibly sell for $90 (list $149.95 NEW).
The scanner contains every thing as if you just bought it from the store.
Please E-Mail me at [e-mail] if interested. DO NOT REPLAY HERE ON
USENET!!!!!
Ari


From [e-mail] Fri Sep 27 22:20:57 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Frank B.)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner,alt.radio.scanner
Subject: FS: Yupi 7100, BC-2500XLT, RS Pro-43
Date: Tue, 24 Sep 1996 05:17:55 GMT
Organization: Teleport - Portland's Public Access [phone]
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  Repost of Radio Scanner Forsale.


Yupiteru MVT-7100 Radio Scanner.
  100Khz-1650Mhz Continous Coverage
   Excellent Condition, hardly used.
   All original docs, box, AC Adapter, Belt clip, Car adapter,
        Telescopic Antenna, 4 AA nicad batteries, and Carry strap.
==$500.00    Shipped


 Bearcat BC 2500XLT Radio Scanner.
     25Mhz-550Mhz & 760Mhz-1300Mhz Continous Coverages.
     Excellent Condition.
     2 Batteries Packs( 1 fresh & 1 not).
     Leather-like Carrying Case, Rubber Antenna, AC Adapter,
     Manual, Belt-clip, and Headset or earphone jack adapter.
==$215.00    Shipped


  Radio Shack Pro-43 Radio Scanner.
     30-88Mhz 118-174Mhz 220-512Mhz 806-999.9Mhz Cell Mod
     Scratches but in Excellent Working Condition
     6 Ni-Cad Batteries, and Rubber Antenna
==$165.00   Shipped


Frank Bernard  ([e-mail])
Oregon



From [e-mail] Fri Sep 27 22:20:58 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Frank B.)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner,alt.radio.scanner
Subject: FS: Yupi 7100, BC-2500XLT, RS Pro-43
Date: Tue, 24 Sep 1996 05:52:12 GMT
Organization: Teleport - Portland's Public Access [phone]
Lines: 30
Message-ID: <527st5$[e-mail]>
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  Repost of Radio Scanners Forsale.


Yupiteru MVT-7100 Radio Scanner.
  100Khz-1650Mhz Continous Coverage
   Excellent Condition, hardly used.
   All original docs, box, AC Adapter, Belt clip, Car adapter,
        Telescopic Antenna, 4 AA nicad batteries, and Carry strap.
==$500.00    Shipped


 Bearcat BC 2500XLT Radio Scanner.
     25Mhz-550Mhz & 760Mhz-1300Mhz Continous Coverages.
     Excellent Condition.
     2 Batteries Packs( 1 fresh & 1 not).
     Leather-like Carrying Case, Rubber Antenna, AC Adapter,
     Manual, Belt-clip, and Headset or earphone jack adapter.
==$215.00    Shipped


  Radio Shack Pro-43 Radio Scanner.
     30-88Mhz 118-174Mhz 220-512Mhz 806-999.9Mhz Cell Mod
     Scratches but in Excellent Working Condition
     6 Ni-Cad Batteries, and Rubber Antenna
==$165.00   Shipped


Frank Bernard  ([e-mail])
Oregon



From [e-mail] Fri Sep 27 22:20:59 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Greg LaP.)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: FS:Crystals
Date: Tue, 24 Sep 1996 12:01:14 GMT
Organization: Seimac Limited
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 I have these crystals (for Realistic scanners) for sale:

                                        154.620 Mhz   QTY OF 9
                                        154.710 Mhz                 8
                                        167.730     "                 10
                                        169.465      "             6
                                        162.850      "                 3

        $ 5.00 cdn ea. or 3 for $10.00 cdn

                                Thanks,
                                Greg
                                [e-mail]




From [e-mail] Fri Sep 27 22:21:00 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Gary Pearce)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Fuquay-Varina, NC
Date: Fri, 27 Sep 1996 03:27:06 GMT
Organization: Vnet Internet Access, Inc.
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[e-mail] (mcarver) wrote:

>Help me!  I need any frequencies for Fuquay-Varina, NC.  The list
>(TRIFREQ6.ZIP) has been sent to me, and does not cover the area well
>enough.  I'm looking for Police/Fire, etc...

>email me, or reply here.

>Thanks

>[e-mail]

Police Call, available at Radio Shack, has some listings for Fuquay, but
your police are dispatched out of Raleigh.  Here's what I see in PC:

Rescue  155.28
Rural fire      154.19
                154.295
Local gov.      156.195
                461.0
Police  460.5 (dispatched by Raleigh 911)

I don't believe that Fuquay is part of any trunked 800 system, though they
could have moved to one recently.

Gary


Gary Pearce             Avid/Video Editor       Internet:[e-mail]
116 Waterfall Ct.       Franklin Video
Cary, NC 27513          Raleigh, NC
919-380-9944            919-833-8888            Ham Radio: KN4AQ



From [e-mail] Fri Sep 27 22:21:01 1996
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From: [e-mail] (mcarver)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Fuquay-Varina, NC Frequencies
Date: 21 Sep 1996 07:10:50 GMT
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If you've heard of this town, and scan it, please post what FREQs you
have.  I'm new to the area (which is about 15 miles S of Raleigh), and
it's a small town, but the PS uses a trunked 800 system.  Thanks for your
help.


From [e-mail] Fri Sep 27 22:21:01 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Dan Morgan)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner,alt.radio.scanner
Subject: Further info on IRC Channel
Date: Tue, 24 Sep 1996 22:25:57 GMT
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I should have mentioned that the new channel is on EFNet.


From [e-mail] Fri Sep 27 22:21:02 1996
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From: Ron M <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: alt.radio.scanner,rec.radio.swap,rec.radio.scanner
Subject: GE/Ericsson Buzz Silencer
Date: Thu, 19 Sep 1996 21:48:29 -0700
Organization: TELIS
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Brand New!
COMSEC SA-80 eliminates the buzzsaw noises from this trunk system. Works
in all pro-2000 series scanner, easy to install. $50.00 incl ship.
Ron


From [e-mail] Fri Sep 27 22:21:03 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Ron Katz)
Newsgroups: alt.radio.scanner,rec.radio.swap,rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: GE/Ericsson Buzz Silencer
Date: Fri, 20 Sep 1996 11:49:17 GMT
Organization: InterLog Internet Services
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I had one,  If you want it I might still have it in my garbage bin.  I
can dig it up for you, or you can buy the G/Wiz Mod and solve the buzz
saw and beeping noice once in for all.



Ron M <[e-mail]> wrote:

>Brand New!
>COMSEC SA-80 eliminates the buzzsaw noises from this trunk system. Works
>in all pro-2000 series scanner, easy to install. $50.00 incl ship.
>Ron

Ron Katz
News Cameraman
Toronto Ontario
http://www.interlog.com/~ronkatz/
Your source of information for
Scanning the Emergency Services and More.


From [e-mail] Fri Sep 27 22:21:04 1996
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From: Ron M <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: alt.radio.scanner,rec.radio.swap,rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: GE/Ericsson Buzz Silencer
Date: Fri, 20 Sep 1996 22:21:19 -0700
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Ron M wrote:
>
> Brand New!
> COMSEC SA-80 eliminates the buzzsaw noises from this trunk system. Works
> in all pro-2000 series scanner, easy to install. $40.00 incl ship.
> Ron


From [e-mail] Fri Sep 27 22:21:05 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Bill Cheek)
Newsgroups: alt.radio.scanner,rec.radio.swap,rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: GE/Ericsson Buzz Silencer
Date: Sat, 21 Sep 1996 15:07:02 GMT
Organization: COMMtronics Engineering/World Scanner Report
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Time-honored and field proven for several years; recently upgraded:

MOD-44B  DATA/TONE SQUELCH:  Lets scanner resume SCAN or SEARCH after
         stopping on continuous tones, computer data, and many other
         non-voice signals.  Scan/Search stops are only momentary.
         Resume is automatic! Yet, indefinitely pauses for voice
         signals as it should!  Works with and similar to the factory
         Sound Squelch function.

         Scanners Supported:  PRO-2004/5/6 and PRO-2035/2042

         Complexity: Medium Easy. 2 ICs, 1 trimmer, several diodes,
                     resistors, and capacitors. 5 connections to
                     scanner, with one wire cut and two splices.

         Available in six different ways.

         1.  Instruction Set Only - you build/install it.
         2.  Kit of Essential Parts plus (1) above:
         3.  Kit, same as #2 with a precut/sized perfboard:
         4.  Kit, same as #2 with a printed circuit board:
         5.  Same as (4), but assembled & tested. U-install:
         6.  Same as (5), but we install & provide misc parts:

         NOTE:  Instruction Sets run 6-8 pages and are very detailed
                with parts lists, diagrams, schematics, and step-by-
                step guidance.

         Items 2-5 do not include switches, IC sockets, LEDs, or
         aesthetic items.  An SPST switch is needed to turn the
         Data/Tone Squelch on and off.  Switches and other personal
         taste items must be supplied by customer, although we do
         provide a basic toggle switch on rear of scanner for Item 6.
         The Data/Tone Squelch is extensively field tested; and time
         honored;  - a quality modification.

 Costs are not discussed here but will be provided upon e-mail
request.

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From [e-mail] Fri Sep 27 22:21:06 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Ron Katz)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Give It a Rest, Ron!
Date: Wed, 18 Sep 1996 00:15:52 GMT
Organization: InterLog Internet Services
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[e-mail] (Sky King) wrote:

>Ron Katz ([e-mail]) wrote:
>
>> What looks dumb here is you idiots who join in the argument with still
>> nothing to add but some stupid comment that still proves nothing.
>
>  Ron:  Is EVERYONE who disagrees with you an "idiot"?

No not Everyone, Just the ones who say "your wrong" call some name and
run without  supporting  their argument. You know, the guys who just
wants to add to the flame, to jump into the fun.


> I don't believe
>that I have ever seen a comment from you where you are not calling
>someone names or insulting them in some manner.

Maybe you should have a better look then.

I'm willing to prove you wrong.   I do have the last few years of
material that I have posted here saved in a folder.

If your so sure why not give me a list of what you have seen that you
consider to be name calling or insulting I'll do a global search and
eliminate that. Then I can email you the rest of my posts. You can
then be a better judge.

If what you say is true then you should receive nothing.

If you don't have a clue what your talking about then you may receive
a few bytes or a few megabytes.

Just say the word.


>Do you drink a lot before signing on the net?
>

Another great example if the Idiots I'm talking about.


Like I said before.
>Ron Katz ([e-mail]) wrote:
>
>> What looks dumb here is you idiots who join in the argument with still
>> nothing to add but some stupid comment that still proves nothing.


Remember, we were arguing about the proper tools to use for Bills
alignments procedures.  I don't see how this has anything to do with
it.


>Sky King
>--




From [e-mail] Fri Sep 27 22:21:07 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Michael Alexander)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Glass mount scanner antenna - BC3000XLT
Date: Thu, 19 Sep 1996 19:06:42 -0400
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In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] wrote:

> Hi!
>
> Where can I find a glass mount scanner antenna to be used together with
> the Uniden Bearcat
> 3000XLT (coverage 25-1300MHz)? I know about scannerworlds GM-1A.
>
> /Anders
>
You sure you want one of those things? The ones for cell phones don't do
much in my experience; expect that a glass-mount scanner antenna would be
no better.

--
Michael Alexander
[e-mail]


From [e-mail] Fri Sep 27 22:21:11 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Daniel Reemes)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Glass mount scanner antenna - BC3000XLT
Date: Sun, 22 Sep 96 00:06:37 GMT
Organization: E-Tex Intenet
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These antenna's are fine... If you want to kill your reception. I had one and
it was its reception was terrible. It worked a little better when I opened my
door. Only one problem, you can't drive down the road with the door open.

I recently found an old gutter mount CB antenna in the closet. I cut the screw

mount plug of and put a BNC plug on it. Now I'm getting stations I couldn't
get before with my Pro-2036.


In article <[e-mail]>   ,
[e-mail] (Dan Morgan) wrote:
>
>>>Where can I find a glass mount scanner antenna to be used together with
>>>the Uniden Bearcat
>>>3000XLT (coverage 25-1300MHz)? I know about scannerworlds GM-1A.
>>
>>>/Anders
>>
>>> ******************************************************
>>> Anders Enqvist
>>
>>> E-mail:    [e-mail]
>>
>>> *******************************************************
>>
>>
>Try Radio Shack. If you have the latest catalog, look on page 43. You
>will find exactly what you want there. If you don't have the catalog,
>the is the description of the antenna right from the catalog.
>
>(8) Mobile 'cellular look-alike' glass-mouint scanner antenna. No
>holes to drill. Easily installs on windshield or window. Covers 25 to
>1300 Mhz. 22"-high element. Includes 16-foot cable with BNC connector.
>20-011.......29.99.

***DAN***

http://www.e-tex.com/personal/dreemes/

"What if someone gave a fire and noone came?"
 Please support your local fire department.


From [e-mail] Fri Sep 27 22:21:12 1996
From: [e-mail] (Joseph Rogers)
Subject: Re: Glenn Hansen  please support your argument
Date: 21 Sep 96 07:18:52 -0700
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Sir....Yur undr stress


From [e-mail] Fri Sep 27 22:21:12 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Bry)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Great RADIO Web Site!
Date: Mon, 23 Sep 1996 07:54:30 GMT
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Good place to find RADIO related information and  LINKS:

http://www.mnsinc.com/bry/
Brian Carling, AF4K / G3XLQ
[e-mail]
http://www.mnsinc.com/bry = MEGALIST + HOCKEY + HAM RADIO = Bry's Page!



From [e-mail] Fri Sep 27 22:21:13 1996
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From: [e-mail](Bill J. Moulton )
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Hawthorne airport Freqs.
Date: 21 Sep 1996 14:26:05 GMT
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Can anyone tell me the approch freq. of the Hawthorne airport in Calif.


From [e-mail] Fri Sep 27 22:21:14 1996
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From: "Robert H. Eisner" <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Hawthorne airport Freqs.
Date: Sat, 21 Sep 1996 18:28:31 -0400
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To: "Bill J. Moulton" <[e-mail]>

Bill J. Moulton wrote:
>
> Can anyone tell me the approch freq. of the Hawthorne airport in Calif.

Hi Bill,

I think they may be on 121.100 Mhz

Bob


From [e-mail] Fri Sep 27 22:21:15 1996
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From: "Robert H. Eisner" <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Hawthorne airport Freqs.
Date: Sat, 21 Sep 1996 18:38:30 -0400
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To: "Bill J. Moulton" <[e-mail]>

Bill J. Moulton wrote:
>
> Can anyone tell me the approch freq. of the Hawthorne airport in Calif.

Check out the following URL for Hawthorne airport:

  http://www.cc.gatech.edu/fly/cgi-bin/airport-info?HHR

It lists Hawthorne on the following frequencies:

            CTAF: 121.1
            ATIS: 118.4
HAWTHORNE GROUND: 125.0 [0600-2000]
 HAWTHORNE TOWER: 121.1 [0600-2000]
  SOCAL APPROACH: 124.3(146-245)
                  124.9(069-145)
                  125.2(246-342)
                  128.5(343-068)
 SOCAL DEPARTURE: 124.3
              IC: 124.9(069-145)

Bob


From [e-mail] Fri Sep 27 22:21:16 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Bill Cheek)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Headers (To Jason Low)
Date: Sat, 21 Sep 1996 14:47:41 GMT
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Organization: Scanner Hill
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[e-mail] (Jason Low) wrote:

>>>Now tell me something here...What stops someone from rewriting the
>>>headder in the body of their posts?

>>Nothing.  But that would be ignorant, because it would appear as a
>>part of the message, not the header.

>I came in late, so I may be off on another tangent entirely, but if we're
>talking about the headers such as the one on this very article, it's
>edited as the first few dozen lines of the message body.

Negative.  Headers are placed by the software, quite apart from the
message text.

>In trn, which is
>what I use, it passes the entire thing to Pico (or emacs, depending on
>what mood I'm in) with lines for Newsgroups, Summary, Expires,
>References, Sender, Followup-To, Organization, Distribution, Keywords,
>and Cc. I'm sure there'd be more if I didn't just use the defaults.

Hmmmmmmm.  Well, I suppose the software *could* allow you to enter
your own headers.  I tried it above by changing my Organization: line
and adding a Reply-To: line.  We'll see how it comes out once it goes
through the server.  I don't think my software allows header stuff to
be put in the body of the message.

>So yes, you can alter the headers in the 'body of the message', as it
>were.. Ron is right.

Well, let's see if it's software-dependent.  Check the header and
first two lines of this post.

>Now, back to scanning.. (*please*..)

It kind of is.  I mean Katz or somebody in Katz's name offered to
peddle linears which can be heard by scanners.

Bill Cheek
Scannist Extraordinaaire



From [e-mail] Fri Sep 27 22:21:20 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Guy Teague)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Headers (To Jason Low)
Date: 21 Sep 1996 11:31:32 -0400
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Bill Cheek ([e-mail]) wrote:
: Organization: Scanner Hill
: Reply-To: [e-mail]

: Hmmmmmmm.  Well, I suppose the software *could* allow you to enter
: your own headers.  I tried it above by changing my Organization: line
: and adding a Reply-To: line.  We'll see how it comes out once it goes
: through the server.  I don't think my software allows header stuff to
: be put in the body of the message.

----

Here's how it came out by the time it got to my system. Looks like your
changes did make it through:

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From: [e-mail] (Bill Cheek)
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From [e-mail] Fri Sep 27 22:21:21 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Dr Pepper)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Help Indentifying 152.010
Date: Wed, 25 Sep 1996 19:20:29 GMT
Organization: The Scannerist
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[e-mail] (Joe Nicholson) wrote:

> -=> Quoting Sean Petty to All <=-

> SP> I am trying to locate the licensee of the frequency 152.010 in
> SP> the West Chester, PA area.  This frequency is interfering badly
> SP> with cable channel 19


> How do you know the licensee is interfering with channel 19?

> Did you ever stop to think that the cable system might be so
> poorly designed as to allow outside signals to enter it?  Or
> that your own installation might be so poorly connected as to
> permit signals to enter it?


>___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12

Or how about birdies (harmonics)?  The frequency just doesn't sound
right, for some reason, , , ,  I'll check it out for you.

Dr Pepper
10 - 2 - 4




From [e-mail] Fri Sep 27 22:21:22 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Reverend Tweek)
Subject: Re: Help Indentifying 152.010MHz
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
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[POSTED and E-MAILED]

In article <[e-mail]>,
Sean Petty <[e-mail]> wrote:
>
>I am trying to locate the licensee of the frequency 152.010 in
>the West Chester, PA area.  This frequency is interfering badly with
>cable channel 19 and I need to know who the carrier is so that I can
>contact them to try and correct the problem..

KEYWORD: "licensee"

Being that they are the licensee of the frequency, and your cable
company is not, there is NOTHING you can do to remedy the problem
by contacting them.

It is your cable company which is at fault and therefore they are
who will have to fix it.  What your cable company has, is a radio
wave carrying enviroment which is separate from the regular airwaves.
This enviroment consists of the cable.  The theory is, outside signals
don't get in, and inside signals don't get out.  The entire enviroment is
maintained by the cable company.  It is THEIR "shield".

Unless you possibly have your own home-job wiring for your cable,
your best bet is to call the cable company and have them fix the
ingress to their cable.

If your cable company is not willing to take care of this problem, your
next step might be to call the FAA or FCC and report them, since where
there is ingress, there is usually egress, and the FAA doesn't take too
kindly to cable companies bleeding channels 14-16 into their aircraft
safety frequencies.

But beware... make absolutely sure that the problem is not in your
home first...  make sure that you are not using zip cord for your
cable to tv connection, but rather, 100% shielded cable with solid
conectors on each end...  or else the cable company, FAA AND FCC might
hold you responsible for the leakage.




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From: [e-mail] (Mark S. Conway)
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Subject: Re: Help Indentifying 152.010MHz
Date: Wed, 25 Sep 1996 01:56:33 GMT
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Good answer, you must be a cable tv man.
You are absolutely correct. . .   Textbook answer.

[e-mail] (Reverend Tweek) wrote:

>[POSTED and E-MAILED]

>In article <[e-mail]>,
>Sean Petty <[e-mail]> wrote:
>>
>>I am trying to locate the licensee of the frequency 152.010 in
>>the West Chester, PA area.  This frequency is interfering badly with
>>cable channel 19 and I need to know who the carrier is so that I can
>>contact them to try and correct the problem..

>KEYWORD: "licensee"

>Being that they are the licensee of the frequency, and your cable
>company is not, there is NOTHING you can do to remedy the problem
>by contacting them.

>It is your cable company which is at fault and therefore they are
>who will have to fix it.  What your cable company has, is a radio
>wave carrying enviroment which is separate from the regular airwaves.
>This enviroment consists of the cable.  The theory is, outside signals
>don't get in, and inside signals don't get out.  The entire enviroment is
>maintained by the cable company.  It is THEIR "shield".

>Unless you possibly have your own home-job wiring for your cable,
>your best bet is to call the cable company and have them fix the
>ingress to their cable.

>If your cable company is not willing to take care of this problem, your
>next step might be to call the FAA or FCC and report them, since where
>there is ingress, there is usually egress, and the FAA doesn't take too
>kindly to cable companies bleeding channels 14-16 into their aircraft
>safety frequencies.

>But beware... make absolutely sure that the problem is not in your
>home first...  make sure that you are not using zip cord for your
>cable to tv connection, but rather, 100% shielded cable with solid
>conectors on each end...  or else the cable company, FAA AND FCC might
>hold you responsible for the leakage.






From [e-mail] Fri Sep 27 22:21:25 1996
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From: Brad Wicks <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Here is mod for the bc175xl
Date: Wed, 18 Sep 1996 05:54:49 -0500
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If you have a 16 channel bc175xl, you can add 4 memmory channels to it
very easly. If you have cpu# 1115a or 1115 you can do this. On the top
left corner of the cpu count down 5 pins. If you can read the name on
the cpu and it is up Right and then you go to the left side, you are at
the place for this mod. Beside the 4th and 5th pins on this side, there
is a solder pad, an 1/8 of an inch to the left of it is another solder
pad. make a solder bridge between them and you will get 4 more memmory
channels.

                                                    Brad


From [e-mail] Fri Sep 27 22:21:26 1996
From: [e-mail] (Ezra)
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Subject: Here's the Pro-2032 cell-mod! - 2032mod.jpg (0/1)
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I requested this mod in this very newsgroup about two years ago, and
someone was kind enough to pass it along. It seems to have since
disappeared, and I lost my copy. So... just to be nice, I pulled my
Pro-2032 back apart.

Here's what you do:

Remove the bottom cover from the unit. Set it so that the volume &
squelch knobs are to the top & left. In the upper left hand corner of
the circuit board you'll see a metal shield measuring 1 and 11/16"
by 4 and 1/16". Heat the solder connections holding this to the board
and remove it. About midway between the two larger chips and down a
bit, you'll see a very small, black, rectangular, three-legged diode.
One leg extends out to the left, two out to the right. CAREFULLY
disconnect the upper right leg of the diode, in a manner of your own
choosing.

You're done. Put the shield & cover back on. You'll now get continuous
coverage between 806-960MHz. The two unblocked spectrums
(824.040MHz-848.970MHz & 869.040MHz-893.970MHz) are spaced in 30kHz
steps.

If you screw anything up, I don't wanna hear about it. It worked great
on mine!

Ezra



From [e-mail] Fri Sep 27 22:21:27 1996
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From: [e-mail]
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Subject: HYPOTHETICAL question about changing crystals in cordless phone
Date: Fri, 20 Sep 1996 00:20:00 GMT
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If a person wanted to change the crystal in their cordless, do you
have to replace both the handset AND base crystals?

With remote controlled cars, they use a single frequency and
hypothetically, can someone put in a R/C car crystal in the base and
have it still work?

Is there a specific reason for the pairings ie 49.670(handset)
--46.610(base)MHz?
Would  49.670(handset) -- 75.410(base) MHz work?

Do you have any examples that would (hypothetically) work?

Has anyone tried this.

(Please don't go into the legalities--this is hypothetical)

You can answer here as I don't have e-mail access. (Its a friends
account)

Thanks for the information.

Robert


From [e-mail] Fri Sep 27 22:21:28 1996
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From: Brian Hall <[e-mail]>
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Subject: I need an opinion about a scanner.
Date: Thu, 19 Sep 1996 18:15:59 -0600
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Hello,

I am interested in purchasing a PRO-29 from my local Radio Shack.  I'm
new to scanning and need some advice about this scanner.  The specs. are
as follows: (as much as the Radio Shack dude could give me over the
phone)

PRO-29
$149 (on sale, regularly $219)

60 CHANNEL
Frequency ranges are:  29-54, 108-174, 406-512, 806-823, 851-868,
896-956 mhz.

The price is what I'm attracted to, however, I'd like to know if I'm
going to be severely limited here because of the frequency restraints.
Also, I'm not sure if this scanner has been out for very long, so I'd
like to know if anyone has come up with any mods for it.

Please give me any opinions or advice about this unit.  If you know of a
better scanner that is within $50 of its price range, Please email or
post a response (preferably email).

Thanks in advance.

========================
Brian Hall
[e-mail]
http://www.byu.edu/~bhall
========================


From [e-mail] Fri Sep 27 22:21:28 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Michael John Mikolay)
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Subject: INFO PLEASE
Date: 24 Sep 1996 04:58:21 GMT
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Could someone please give me their opinion on the RS Pro-60 and its
success in picking up military freqs?  I currently own a Pro-39 and I am
looking to sell and upgrade?  Also, what would be a fair asking price for
a two year old unit with everything(box, manual) and is still unmodified
for cell?  Thanks!!

Regards,
Mike

--
Mike Mikolay                   |"Once you have flown, you will walk the
BGSU "Flying Falcons"          | Earth with your eyes turned skyward, for
Commercial Pilot/ASEL/Instr.   | there you have been, there you long to
E-Mail: [e-mail] | return."  -da Vinci


From [e-mail] Fri Sep 27 22:21:29 1996
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From: david hartley <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: INS freq use NJ, NY, CONN, PA, MD
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163.650 is active in Connecticut using 800 series identifiers. i
at one time thought this was FBI but now feel its INS since i
have never heard DVP



From [e-mail] Fri Sep 27 22:21:30 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Tim Payne)
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Subject: Internation Dignitaries in Rochester, MN
Date: Tue, 24 Sep 96 12:52:53 GMT
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The president of the United Arab Emirates is in Rochester, MN for some
business.  He was escorted from the airport by a motorcade of 15+ vehicles
last night.  Any ideas what freqs might be in action for this his visit?  I
found the motorcade coordination frequency to be 155.475 (the Minnesota Police

Emergency channel).  I could not find any other activity regarding him on any
other channel I have.

I am sure the FBI must be involved, as well as the secret service.  Any help
would be appreciated.

Tim Payne
Systems Engineer
e-mail: [e-mail]


From [e-mail] Fri Sep 27 22:21:31 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Drew Durigan)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: KANADIAN DOLLARS
Date: 21 Sep 1996 03:51:10 GMT
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[e-mail] (Watcher5) wrote:

>Excuse me, but the chances of you getting your head blown off are
>greated if you try to go for a gun!  Someone waving a gun in your face
>is already nervous.  If you made a sudden movement, BLAM!  That's why
>I think guns should only be legally possessed by the police and active
>military members.

Fine.  When you get attacked by a robber/mugger/other waste of life,
don't say I didn't tell you so.  You will then wish you had a little 9mm
Beretta or similar in your pocket to defend yourself with.


> With your laws that allow easy access to guns,
>children are dying every day down there from drive by shootings.  It
>makes me sick.

That's right.  If the guns were illegal, I'm SURE the criminals wouldn't
possess them, right?


>No wonder we're the best country to live in and you
>guys are not even in the top 10!

But we're the #1 destination for Canadian snowbirds in the wintertime.
Guess there must be something they like here in order to drag their 30-
foot RVs all the way down to Florida every winter.

BTW, while they're here, they also make extensive use of our health care
facilities to have their neccessary surgeries performed.  If your
socialistic health care system is so great, why do they PAY hundreds and
even thousands of dollars to have their operations perrformed in our
hospitals with our doctors?

-Drew in Sunny Central Florida-



From [e-mail] Fri Sep 27 22:21:32 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Robert E. Edmunds)
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Subject: Re: KANADIAN DOLLARS
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Drew Durigan ([e-mail]) writes:
> [e-mail] (Watcher5) wrote:
>
>>Excuse me, but the chances of you getting your head blown off are
>>greated if you try to go for a gun!  Someone waving a gun in your face
>>is already nervous.  If you made a sudden movement, BLAM!  That's why
>>I think guns should only be legally possessed by the police and active
>>military members.

[snip....]


>
> But we're the #1 destination for Canadian snowbirds in the wintertime.
> Guess there must be something they like here in order to drag their 30-
> foot RVs all the way down to Florida every winter.

    Yeah, it's called sunshine and bingo halls!
>
> BTW, while they're here, they also make extensive use of our health care
> facilities to have their neccessary surgeries performed.  If your
> socialistic health care system is so great, why do they PAY hundreds and
> even thousands of dollars to have their operations perrformed in our
> hospitals with our doctors?


   It's because they can afford to have their ELECTIVE surgeries performed
at THEIR convenience, instead of waiting their turn for the doctors in
Canada to perform them.


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From [e-mail] Fri Sep 27 22:21:33 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Steven E Brown)
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TRY 146.910 PL 136.5


From [e-mail] Fri Sep 27 22:21:34 1996
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Date: 23 Sep 96 22:19:00
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Y>c est ben vrais ca , en france que dialble !  quoique les scanners (
 >balayeurs de frequences )  soient tres reglementO ! ( t achete mais t
 >utilise pas ! )

Y a t'il des scanners en France qui ne sont pas bloque?  J'arrive dans
une semaine (Je vais rester chez F5NRI.)
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From [e-mail] Fri Sep 27 22:21:34 1996
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From: "Glenn Hansen" <[e-mail]>
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kEN Colburn <[e-mail]> wrote in article
<[e-mail]>...
> Is there a list of US AM/FM stations on the Net somewhere?


Take a look at 'http://www.airwaves.com/amdb.html'

It has a FM and AM FCC database search located there. I've seen another
but seem to have misplaced
the link. Will post it when/if I find it again.


Glenn


From [e-mail] Fri Sep 27 22:21:35 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Jim Wishner)
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u-bet!

http://www.airwaves.com/fccdb.html

dejim in minnesota, AKA south ontario



From [e-mail] Fri Sep 27 22:21:36 1996
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Ron Katz says:

> John, You two-faced bastard. I posted that. You
> told me to get involved in flaming Bill now
> this. You can suck my splinter. I wont be doing
> nothing for you again. My ISP is POed cause of
> doing for you what I did. FUCK YOU!!!!!!!!

You don't know what the fuck you are saying. If
you had ANY sense you would shut up FOOL! I didn't
ask you to do anything. It sounds like you are
full of shit Ron. I suggest you fuck YOUSELF Ron.
Specifically go away and die.



From [e-mail] Fri Sep 27 22:21:37 1996
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From: Frank Todd <[e-mail]>
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Can't we all just get along?? why such bad language ??

Frank


From [e-mail] Fri Sep 27 22:21:38 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Ron Katz)
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Subject: Re: Mackey You Asshole!!
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Another forged post.
No I never posted the below.

If you really want to know then email me I'll tell you. Otherwise,
ignore it.  It will go away.

Can we all get back to scanners now?






[e-mail] (Chris Baldwin) wrote:

>In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Ron
>Katz) wrote:
>
>> John,Mackey,KA0SSF  wrote ...
>> >Glenn Hansen wrote:
>>
>> >>> You got yourself involved in an argument that never concerned you.
>> >
>> >Actually, if a message is publically posted in a newsgroup then
>> >ANYONE can respond.  If the writers didn't want others involved
>> >then they should have gone to private e-mail.  You are wrong
>> >again.
>>
>> John, You two-faced bastard. I posted that. You
>> told me to get involved in flaming Bill now
>> this. You can suck my splinter. I wont be doing
>> nothing for you again. My ISP is POed cause of
>> doing for you what I did. FUCK YOU!!!!!!!!
>>
>>
>> Ron Katz
>> News Cameraman
>> Toronto Ontario
>> http://www.interlog.com/~ronkatz/
>
>
>OOH!!!! I WANNA GET INVOLVED TOO!!!
>
>
>YEAH YEAH SOCK IT TO 'EM!!!! REEEEEERRRR!!! CAT FIGHT!!!!
>
>
>KF6AJM/R



From [e-mail] Fri Sep 27 22:21:39 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Alec Lemas)
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Subject: Re: Mackey You Asshole!!
Date: Sun, 22 Sep 1996 19:04:52 GMT
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Frank Todd <[e-mail]> wrote:

>Can't we all just get along?? why such bad language ??

>Frank

 Are you crazy or something?This shit is better than cable TV!

 lemas
********************************
 Alec Lemas                  |
    Retired from "The Cold"  |
 [e-mail]    |



From [e-mail] Fri Sep 27 22:21:40 1996
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From: Fern <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Miami Hot Freq!!
Date: Fri, 27 Sep 1996 21:29:41 -0700
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I need Freq. but special ones. I want the Emergency freqs used by
departments for special events like chases and perimeters and stuff
please respond only if you have an Emergency channel that has these
stuff thanks.


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From: [e-mail] (Berlin Slone)
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I would like to know if anyone has a mod for the Bear Cat 350XL
Thanks....



From [e-mail] Fri Sep 27 22:21:41 1996
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From: "doom" <[e-mail]>
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Subject: mods for Uniden 177XLT scanner
Date: 25 Sep 1996 17:55:22 GMT
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Looking for modifications for Uniden Bearcat scanner model 177 XLT.
Please if you have got any mods please let me know!



From [e-mail] Fri Sep 27 22:21:45 1996
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From: Sandman <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Moffet NAS Frequencies?
Date: Fri, 27 Sep 1996 15:57:15 -0700
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MikeR wrote:
>
> Hi all-
>
> I live in Sunnyvale, right next to Moffet NAS, and would appreciate any
> pointers to frequencies used there.  It's also the airstrip for
> NASA-Ames, in case that helps.
>
> -MikeR

Keith Stein wrote:
>
> Here is what I have for Moffett Federal AFLD, CA:
>
> CTAF    126.2
> ATIS    283.0
> BAY APP CON 120.1
> BAY APP CON 134.5
> BAY APP CON 317.6
> BAY APP CON 350.8
> BAY APP CON 346.0
> TWR     126.2
> TWR     353.2
> TWR     340.2
> GND CON 121.85
> GND CON 336.4
> BAY DEP CON     121.3
> BAY DEP CON     322.0
> CLNC DEL        380.8
> BASE OPS        251.7

The following are Army Reserve frequencies that were used when the 343
Med Unit was assigned to Moffett with their helo's. They have been
deactivated and I doubt you will find them in use now, but try anyway
> ARCOM OPS       34.5
> ARCOM OPS       124.95
> ARCOM OPS       241.2

There is also a trunked federal system with annoying end tones that
effectively stops you from following any conversation. Somebody posted
the other day either on this newsgroup or the Scan-L list. This is what
the ANG guys and Moffett Security guys use along with Moffett Ops.

Sgt Thomas A. Montgomery
B Co, 319th Signal Battalion (EAC)
Bldg 180, Parks RFTA
Dublin, CA  94568


From [e-mail] Fri Sep 27 22:21:46 1996
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Subject: Re: Motorola 800Mhz Radio
Date: 21 Sep 1996 00:05:03 GMT
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In article <51r9ar$[e-mail]>,
   sdjones@PROBLEM_WITH_NODE_NAME.on.sympatico.ca (Steve Jones) wrote:
>Scooter179 ([e-mail]) wrote:
>
>: The info I have is that the ID is made up in the following format
>:
>:      (eg.  Radio ID # 1234567890) would code out to;
>:              System ID       =       1234
>:              Fleet ID        =       567
>:              Unit ID         =       890
>
>All this info is available in the RSS manual available from Motorola.  What
>he's looking for is the format of the encrypted system key.  The system key
>is necessary to program the radio.  Knowing a radio id isn't much help if
>you don't have the system key.
>
>Steve
NONE of this has anything to do with what or HOW a trunked system is in a
radio.

CARL


From [e-mail] Fri Sep 27 22:21:47 1996
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From: "Robert H. Eisner" <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: Nascar Freq + Scanners
Date: Thu, 19 Sep 1996 21:58:38 -0400
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mf wrote:
>
> Where can I find the freq for Nascar, and are there any web pages that
> deal in scanners (particular racing).


Check out the following WEB site:

 http://www.winstoncuponline.com/freqcent.html

Bob


From [e-mail] Fri Sep 27 22:21:48 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Charlie Thompson)
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Subject: NEED BEARCAT 250 SCHEMATICS
Date: 21 Sep 1996 20:03:40 GMT
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I adopted a bearcat BC250 the other day...it doesn't work
..power supply problems.

Does anybody out there have schematics for the Bearcat 250???
Will pay you for your trouble.

thanks in advance


Charlie WB4HVD
[e-mail]
[phone] analog human voice mode


From [e-mail] Fri Sep 27 22:21:48 1996
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From: "Robert H. Eisner" <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: Need Freq. Columbus Ohio
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To: "Jeffrey L. Corder" <[e-mail]>

Jeffrey L. Corder wrote:
>
> Can anyone help me. I am trying to find frequencies used in the
> Columbus, Ohio listening area.  Thanks

Hi Jeffrey,

check out the following URL:

 http://members.aol.com/slewis3092/freq/index.htm

Bob


From [e-mail] Fri Sep 27 22:21:49 1996
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From: Richard <[e-mail]>
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Subject: New PRO-2006's Post
Date: Tue, 24 Sep 1996 21:20:40 +0100
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There seemed to be some doubt from a few folks about Ron Courseys' "New
Radio Shack PRO-2006" post. I received mine today and it is BRAND NEW
and UNOPENED.(They are not re-packs). He aquired 250 of them from a
government auction. I had read a post that said "There is no way that
these can be new".  Well they are new. I ordered a second one today.

Personally, I would rather pay $350 for a new 2006 than to pay more
money for 2035's 2042's etc. It's a much better radio.

Anyway it's a legit ad. Just my 2 cents worth.

Greetings all.

Richard


From [e-mail] Fri Sep 27 22:21:50 1996
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From: [e-mail] (SLIboots)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: newbie help :)
Date: 21 Sep 1996 04:08:58 -0400
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Got a scanner.  Don't know what kind.  Can someone give me a list
of all possible mods (please include instructions on how to solder)?
Also, could someone send me a list of all the active frequencies in
my area?  Finally, could someone tell me what, exactly, a "frequency' is
(and keep it non-technical)?  Please send all replies via FedEx overnight
express--you pay shipping.

Gotta go--Mom's waiting to change my diaper for me.  Thanks
in advance!

 :-)



From [e-mail] Fri Sep 27 22:21:51 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Bob)
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Subject: Re: newbie help :)
Date: 21 Sep 1996 19:57:03 GMT
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In article <5207qq$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] says...
>
>Got a scanner.  Don't know what kind.  Can someone give me a list
>of all possible mods (please include instructions on how to solder)?
>Also, could someone send me a list of all the active frequencies in
>my area?  Finally, could someone tell me what, exactly, a "frequency'
is
>(and keep it non-technical)?

Well, to answer your first question, to figure out the model number you
have to..


WAIT A MINUTE!  This is a joke, isn't it?

I'VE BEEN HAD!  Oh, I feel like such a dork.

;-)



From [e-mail] Fri Sep 27 22:21:52 1996
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From: Mike Mayer <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: newbie help :)
Date: Sat, 21 Sep 1996 19:39:50 -0400
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SLIboots wrote:
>
> Got a scanner.  Don't know what kind.

It's engraved on the wood panel near the steam fitting.

> Can someone give me a list of all possible mods.

Send a request to: [e-mail]

> (please include instructions on how to solder)?

First, go to a science supply store.  Buy the coiled solder ribbon they sell,
it's called Magnesium.  Don't worry, that's just the brand name.  It's really
solder.

Cut a 1" strip, hold one end in your hand.  Touch the other end to the wires
you want to join.  Bring your propane torch near the metal ribbon.  The wires
will fuse.  Voila!  Keep a glass of water nearby in case of a few "sparks".

> Also, could someone send me a list of all the active frequencies in
> my area?

Everything YOU need to hear is on this frequency:

        0.00006 MHz

Tune it in and see what's "buzzing".

>  Finally, could someone tell me what, exactly, a "frequency' is
> (and keep it non-technical)?

OK, here you go:

        Frequency is electricity jumping up and down over and over.  It's
measured in pounds per acre.

Sorry if I left out any details.

>Please send all replies via FedEx overnight
> express--you pay shipping.

UPS OK?  Here's my account number...

  :-)

Mike
--
<><><><>  WITNESS - Process Simulation and Modeling Software  <><><><>
Michael Mayer, Senior Technical Consultant       [e-mail]
Lanner Group, Inc.(was AT&T ISTEL) 31225 Bainbridge Rd, Solon OH 44139
Human: 216-519-1200       Fax: [phone]       Amateur Radio KB8RJO
<><><><><><><>   Good * Cheap * Quick  (pick any two)   <><><><><><><>


From [e-mail] Fri Sep 27 22:21:53 1996
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From: [e-mail] (SLIboots)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: newbie help :)
Date: 22 Sep 1996 12:29:45 -0400
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In article <[e-mail]>, Mike Mayer
<[e-mail]> writes:

>
>SLIboots wrote:
>>
>> Got a scanner.  Don't know what kind.
>
>It's engraved on the wood panel near the steam fitting.
>
>> Can someone give me a list of all possible mods.
>
>Send a request to: [e-mail]
>
>> (please include instructions on how to solder)?
>
>First, go to a science supply store.  Buy the coiled solder ribbon they
sell,
>
>it's called Magnesium.  Don't worry, that's just the brand name.  It's
really
>
>solder.
>
>Cut a 1" strip, hold one end in your hand.  Touch the other end to the
wires
>you want to join.  Bring your propane torch near the metal ribbon.  The
wires
>
>will fuse.  Voila!  Keep a glass of water nearby in case of a few
"sparks".
>
>> Also, could someone send me a list of all the active frequencies in
>> my area?
>
>Everything YOU need to hear is on this frequency:
>
>       0.00006 MHz
>
>Tune it in and see what's "buzzing".
>
>>  Finally, could someone tell me what, exactly, a "frequency' is
>> (and keep it non-technical)?
>
>OK, here you go:
>
>       Frequency is electricity jumping up and down over and over.  It's
>measured in pounds per acre.
>
>Sorry if I left out any details.
>
>>Please send all replies via FedEx overnight
>> express--you pay shipping.
>
>UPS OK?  Here's my account number...
>
>  :-)
>
>Mike
>--

Mike--Thanks for the help!  Looking forward to trying that
"magnesium" solder.  And you're right: took a look near the
steam fitting and there was the model number, just like
you said!  By the way, why exactly do they call it a "scanner?"
Can you use it to scan those bar codes they've got on all
the stuff over at Ed's Shop 'n Save?  Just wondering . . .


From [e-mail] Fri Sep 27 22:21:54 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Dr Pepper)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: newbie help :)
Date: Sun, 22 Sep 1996 17:31:37 GMT
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Mike Mayer <[e-mail]> wrote:

>SLIboots wrote:
>>
>> Got a scanner.  Don't know what kind.

>It's engraved on the wood panel near the steam fitting.

snotty sarcasm snipped

>Mike

Mike, you are a JERK !  I don't think making fun of an admitted newbie
is cool at all.  get a life.

>--
><><><><>  WITNESS - Process Simulation and Modeling Software  <><><><>
>Michael Mayer, Senior Technical Consultant       [e-mail]
>Lanner Group, Inc.(was AT&T ISTEL) 31225 Bainbridge Rd, Solon OH 44139
>Human: 216-519-1200       Fax: [phone]       Amateur Radio KB8RJO
><><><><><><><>   Good * Cheap * Quick  (pick any two)   <><><><><><><>

Dr Pepper
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From [e-mail] Fri Sep 27 22:21:55 1996
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From: "E. Scott Sykes" <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Now hear this!!!!
Date: Sat, 21 Sep 1996 09:54:51 -0300
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Has anyone given any thought to using OS456 or OS535 and a soundcard to
record like the VADER did with the HB(CE)232.


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From: [e-mail] (Tom Dougherty)
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Subject: Opinions of BearTracker's wanted....
Date: 20 Sep 1996 17:07:35 GMT
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Hello all....

I'm looking at purchasing a BCT-7... can anyone offer an opinion on the good &

bad aspects of this scanner... and possibly to recommend another comperable
scanner??

(I'm new to this scanning stuff...) :)

Thanks & Blue Skies!
-Tom
[e-mail]

======================================
Skydivers know why the birds sing!
======================================



From [e-mail] Fri Sep 27 22:21:57 1996
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From: "Thomas J. Penton" <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: Ouija Board Frequencies
Date: Wed, 18 Sep 1996 08:22:10 -0400
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On Sun, 15 Sep 1996, Danny Sale wrote:

> I would like to directly intercept the communications from the demon
> sending the message before it gets to the ouija board.
> What frequency is this on?
>
This has to be a real put on? but what a troll
>
>
>















Thomas J. Penton
[e-mail]
I am a stranger in a
even stranger land



From [e-mail] Fri Sep 27 22:21:58 1996
From: [e-mail] (Dan Arganbright)
Subject: RE: Ouija Board Frequencies
Date: 22 Sep 96 14:13:39 -0700
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666.0000.  Not to many radios can receive this frequecy.


From [e-mail] Fri Sep 27 22:21:59 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Merlene Dean)
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Subject: Own a PRO-29, want to scan CB Channels
Date: Sun, 22 Sep 1996 23:41:31 -0500
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I want to know if there is any way I can scan CB channels 1-40 with my PRO-29.

 Any help would be appreciated no matter what it may take to get it to work.


From [e-mail] Fri Sep 27 22:21:59 1996
From: [e-mail] (Joseph Rogers)
Subject: Re: P L E A S E  Recommend  VHF/UHF scanner
Date: 21 Sep 96 07:17:47 -0700
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Try the Uniden 3000XLT. Excellent Hand Held Scanner.


From [e-mail] Fri Sep 27 22:22:00 1996
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From: Pete Baston <[e-mail]>
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Subject: PD Paging Decoder 2.03 Release
Date: Mon, 23 Sep 1996 21:06:43 +0100
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                  PD (POCSAG Decoder) Version 2.03
                  --------------------------------

         **** Announcing the release of PD version 2.03 ****

PD is an MS-DOS program for decoding POCSAG paging transmissions on an IBM
PC or equivalent, 80286 processor or later.

PD requires a simple interface between the audio output of a scanner or
receiver and a COM port on the PC. This is described in the documentation
file.


VERSION 2.03    September 1996

* Increased maximum size of paging message received to 1000 characters.
* Made input pin selectable between CTS and DSR for use with Hamcomm and
  Optolinx type interfaces.
* Increased timeout in shareware version to 15 minutes.


PD is distributed as shareware. The shareware version has a 15 - minute
timeout and does not log to disk, or output messages serially. Upgrade to
the full version is by a key file available from the author on
registration, which costs 20 Pounds Sterling.

Registered users of PD may unlock version 2.03 using their existing
.KEY file.


PD 2.03 may be downloaded from the following sites:-


http://www.bearnet.demon.co.uk/pocsag/

http://www.seelect.demon.co.uk/pocsag.html

http://www.keplens.co.uk/pager/

ftp://ftp.demon.co.uk/pub/ham/scanners/pd-203.zip


For any info email Pete Baston <[e-mail]>


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*******         Pete Baston, Pen y ffordd, Chester, U.K.        *******
*******             http://www.bearnet.demon.co.uk/             *******
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From [e-mail] Fri Sep 27 22:22:01 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Rickard Faivre)
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Subject: Re: PD Paging Decoder 2.03 Release
Date: 24 Sep 1996 20:06:57 GMT
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In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail]
says...
>
>                  PD (POCSAG Decoder) Version 2.03
>                  --------------------------------
>
>         **** Announcing the release of PD version 2.03 ****

Hi Pete.

How much for an assembled unit with registered software?

:-)

Rickard.



From [e-mail] Fri Sep 27 22:22:02 1996
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From: "E. Scott Sykes" <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Please don't Feed the Cheekers.
Date: Sat, 21 Sep 1996 09:39:17 -0300
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I realize that this message is in effect feeding the Cheekers. But I
must have my say. Do not respond to the flamers and contribute to the
flame wars, no matter what your opinion is. This News group is of the
scannists, by the scannists, for the scannists, not the flamers or their
recipients. PLEASE DON'T FEED THE CHEEKERS!!!!!!!


From [e-mail] Fri Sep 27 22:22:03 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Robert Whitehill)
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Subject: Pr-39 Mod's
Date: Tue, 24 Sep 1996 12:42:09 GMT
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        Any mods for the pro-39?  I've had one for a few years and would like
any info on mods.  Thanks!


Robert Whitehill
----------------
Nascar & Mark Martin # 1 in 1996



From [e-mail] Fri Sep 27 22:22:04 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Jon27787)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Pro 2006 and OS456...
Date: 23 Sep 1996 10:04:58 -0400
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I have a 2006 less than a foot from my computer and except for the freq of
33.560
I have no problems.
Im running a 486/50. acer.
My 2006 is attached to a scanner master ant on th roof.


From [e-mail] Fri Sep 27 22:22:04 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Bob)
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Subject: PRO 2021 800MHz MOD - HELP!
Date: 27 Sep 1996 15:54:48 GMT
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I am trying to perform the widely published PRO-2021 mod to enable
800MHz reception, and I am having trouble.

I followed the instructions (Clip D44, solder 10K resistor from IC-8
pin13 to R113) but I cannot pick up a known signal.

The CPU accepts the 800MHz input, but it seems like the RF front end is
not enabled to receive 800 MHz.

I must have done something wrong because according to everything I've
read, the search mode won't work with 800MHz frequencies, and mine is
working.

Any ideas?  Anyone done this mod with any success?



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From: [e-mail] (Bob)
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Subject: Pro 2021 Key Beep Mod?
Date: 25 Sep 1996 01:46:15 GMT
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I bought a cheep used PRO 2021 (Hardly any 800 MHz in my area anyway!)
for home use today and I was wondering if there is any way to make the
confounded keypress beeping stop.

I found the mod to speed up the scan rate, I just need to make the
beeping stop before my wife and dog kill me in my sleep.

Thanks!



From [e-mail] Fri Sep 27 22:22:06 1996
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From: [e-mail] (DSchopp)
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Subject: Pro 2035
Date: 22 Sep 1996 13:04:10 GMT
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 If you have been wanting a 1000 channel scanner that can be computer
controlled
I have a Pro 2035, 1000 channel, Radio Shack scanner that I would like to
trade for a handeld scanner or a Bearcat 9000XLT. If interested please
email:

[e-mail]


Thanks

Dan S


From [e-mail] Fri Sep 27 22:22:07 1996
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From: Strings <[e-mail]>
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Subject: PRO 23 Scanner for sale
Date: 24 Sep 1996 09:13:01 -0700
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Radio Shack PRO-23 Scanner for sale.  Pristine and seldom used condition.
All manuals and boxes available.

Will sell for $100.  All manuals and boxes still in pristine shape, as is
the scanner.


Offers considered.

50 channels divided into 5 banks.  Covers 800 MHz, aircraft, police, etc.
Backlight display.


I got it a close-out prices.

Ship via UPS/USPS C.O.D. (to protect both of us).


Email for more info!


[e-mail]
Gary Gilbert


From [e-mail] Fri Sep 27 22:22:08 1996
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From: Dick Ellingson <[e-mail]>
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Subject: PRO-2002
Date: Thu, 19 Sep 1996 22:57:41 -0700
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I know that my Radio Shack PRO-2002 base (from 1982) will pick up 800
mhz if a particular diode is clipped.  I would be grateful to anyone who
can tell me which diode it is.  I know that it's readily visible when
the bottom case is removed because I did it for a couple of customers
when I worked for Radio Shack.
        Thank you in advance for any help you can give me on this.

Dick Ellingson
[e-mail]


From [e-mail] Fri Sep 27 22:22:09 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Dick Ellingson)
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Subject: PRO-2002
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Message sender : [e-mail]


I know that my Radio Shack PRO-2002 base (from 1982) will pick up 800
mhz if a particular diode is clipped.  I would be grateful to anyone who
can tell me which diode it is.  I know that it's readily visible when
the bottom case is removed because I did it for a couple of customers
when I worked for Radio Shack.
        Thank you in advance for any help you can give me on this.

Dick Ellingson
[e-mail]



From [e-mail] Fri Sep 27 22:22:10 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Hugh Duff)
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Subject: Re: PRO-2004/5/6 Precision Adjustment
Date: Wed, 25 Sep 1996 11:32:42 GMT
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[e-mail] (Bill Cheek) wrote:

>To All Owners of the PRO-2004/5/6 scanners:

>Apparently there is a little consternation and confusion in certain
>uninformed quarters with respect to calibration of the Master

???

>Reference Oscillator in the PRO-2004, PRO-2005, and PRO-2006 scanners.

------------------------------------clip--------------------------------------


>The Output from X-301 goes into Pin 1 of the chip.  Pin 2 is an
>buffered output that drives the scanner. Don't mess with Pins 1 or 2.

>But I noticed that the signal goes through *another* buffer that
>outputs at Pin 14 which is dead-ended - it's not used!  This is where
>we attach the short "antenna" wire to radiate some of X-301's 10 MHz
>signal to the antenna of the the shortwave receiver where it mixes

( This procedure is called "Zero Beating". )

>with the WWV signal.


>You do not want to unnecessarily adjust X-301, but you can test it all
>you want.  Just tune in WWV 10 MHz on your shortwave receiver, and
>touch a wire to Pin-14 of the MC145158 chip.  If the wire is too long,

For Gosh sakes folks...AC couple the antenna to the chip using a low
value (.01 uf or so) disc capacitor.
All you need is a blown PLL chip !
The 145158 is a CMOS device...do we need to go thru this again ?

>it will radiate too much signal and "swamp" the WWV sigal, so shorten
>it, if need be.  If not enough signal is radiated, then WWV will swamp
>the X-301 signal, so lengthen the wire.  Nothing hard about that.

>Once the two 10 MHz signals into the shortwave receiver are about
>right, your ears will be able to tell everything else you need to
>know.  If the shortwave receiver has an S-Meter, so much the better
>because then you will also have visible feedback.  Between your eyes
>and ears, the effects of the two 10 MHz signals will clue you if there
>is an error between the two.  The S-Meter will "jiggle" at the error

"Jiggle" ?       (Beat)

>difference.  If there is a 5 Hz error, the meter will jiggle at five
>beats a second.  A 1 Hz error will make the meter sweep once per sec.

>The audible "whoosh-whoosh" sound of the two 10 MHz signals is unique
>and distinctive.  It is much the same as when two people stand close
>and each whistles a continuous tone, and one tries to match the other.
>As the one gets close, they will HEAR a "warble" or vibratto that
>decreases until the two tones match.  You will hear much this same
>effect in the shortwave receiver, if X-301 does not match WWV's freq.

------------------------------clip---------------------------------------


Hugh Duff  VA3TO  Toronto



From [e-mail] Fri Sep 27 22:22:11 1996
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From: "E. Scott Sykes" <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: Pro-2006
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Try  http://home.ptd.net/~pro2006
Scott


From [e-mail] Fri Sep 27 22:22:12 1996
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From: [e-mail] (mcarver)
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Subject: pro-2046
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Any Mods Known?


From [e-mail] Fri Sep 27 22:22:12 1996
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From: [e-mail] (mcarver)
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Subject: PRO-2046 Modifications?
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Are there any known MODs for a PRO-2046 mobile scanner?  I think this
scanner recently came out at RS, It's new in the catalog, and has a March
96 date stamp on back.

Any info appreciated.


From [e-mail] Fri Sep 27 22:22:13 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Kevin Leffler)
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In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail]
says...
>
>Does anyone knows if there is (and what it is) a modification for the
>USA model of the PRO-26 from Radio Shack?  I found a mod, but it only
>applies to the UK model of the PRO-26.  I found in a book that it is
>available, but I can't find it.
>
>Anyone can help me?
>Thanks!
>Guy

Hello there. I have the virtual downconversion mod and a backlight mod.
The downconversion mod lets you listen to cell. and the backlight mod
keeps the backlight on as long as you want.

Kevin



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From: [e-mail] (Alex Pazaratz)
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I am considering purchasing a Radio Shack Pro-26, but I am unsure whether
it will be significantly better than my Pro-51.  The Pro-51 is an
excellent scanner with good sensitivity.  However, I find it is subject to
cellular phone interference when I scan the police trunking channels
(866-868).  The Pro-26 literature says it has "triple conversion" and
"switchable attenuator", but I don't know what they means (and whether it
will address the cellular interference I want to avoid).  If anyone has a
quick description of what these features mean, or any experience with the
Pro-26, I would appreciate hearing from you.

--
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Regards,
Alex Pazaratz
[e-mail]



From [e-mail] Fri Sep 27 22:22:15 1996
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From: [e-mail] (RON ROTH)
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AP> [e-mail] (Alex Pazaratz) wrote:
AP> I am considering purchasing a Radio Shack Pro-26, but I am unsure
AP> whether it will be significantly better than my Pro-51.  The Pro-51
AP> is an excellent scanner with good sensitivity.  However, I find it
AP> is subject to cellular phone interference when I scan the police
AP> trunking channels (866-868).  The Pro-26 literature says it has
AP> "triple conversion" and "switchable attenuator", but I don't know
AP> what they means (and whether it will address the cellular interference
AP> I want to avoid).  If anyone has a quick description of what these
AP> features mean, or any experience with the Pro-26, I would appreciate
AP> hearing from you.
--
 The triple conversion eliminates cell phone interference at around
 866-868 MHz.  The Pro-26 does have an image problem though in the air
 band, if you ever have any intentions to listen there.  I've come up
 with a fix to reduce the interference, but it isn't easy to do, so
 I haven't posted it, but if anyone is willing and interested to do
 "micro" surgery in the 26's frontend, I'll post it.

 The switchable attenuator will decrease sensitivity in selectable
 channels, so it lessens the chance of interference from unwanted
 transmissions, but the same thing also happens to the actual channel
 that you are listening to.  If the signal of the frequency you have
 punched in is strong, and the interfering frequency is weak, then
 the attenuation feature will work ok, if it is the other way around,
 then it won't work.

 * Ron Roth
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From: [e-mail] (Marc Chabot)
Date: 23 Sep 96 22:49:00
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Hello mister Clough.


>The "UK" PRO-26 (RS 20-9506) has full coverage. The only
>difference between the US PRO-26 (20-506) and the ones we have is
>that they use a different main CPU which in the UK version allows
>full 25-1300MHz coverage.

I understand the PRO26 is a triple-conversion scanner: is it made
by GRE like all 3conv. RS scanners?

In Canada it's easy to make a postal money order in UK pound
currency: what is your price for a brand new PRO26 with US-cellular
capability?   Same questions for the PRO60 and PRO2042.

You can reply by e-mail if you prefer.  Thanks.


        M.C.
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From [e-mail] Fri Sep 27 22:22:20 1996
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From: [e-mail] (DT)
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In article <51sd18$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] says...
>
>Dan <[e-mail]> wrote:
>>Is it possible to order a new case for the pro-43 from Radio Shack? (the
>>actual plastic case)
>>If so, do you know the part number and cost?
>>My 43 is looking rough and the numbers are starting to show wear  I
>>should have used a soft case or something. Is there a softcase made just
>>for the 43?
>
>  There is a company in California called DesignEQ that makes a case
>specifically for the PRO-43 (and for other handheld radios).  It's run by a
>fellow named Howard, but I can't remember his last name... I think maybe is
>Borstein, or something like that.  He's the same person who wrote the third
>party user's manual for the AOR AR-1000.
>
>  I used to have the DesignEQ web page address, but I've misplaced it.
>However, I found it by using one of the Web search engines, and searching
>for "DesignEQ".
>
>  If you need an exact address, I'll try to dig it out for you.
>
>=========== Opinions expressed are solely those of the author =========
>Curt Phillips, CEM KD4YU (ex-WB4LHI)  |  "There's so much comedy on
>Engineer / Writer / Double Naught Spy |  television. Does that cause
>Chairman, Tar Heel Scanner/SWL Group  |  comedy in the streets?"
>ARRL Life; QCWA; Raleigh ARS; NRA; AEE|            --Dick Cavett
>==== [e-mail] ===== [Copyright 1996 All rights reserved]====
>
You can ordera soft case from RS thru th catalog for about $20.

DT



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From: [e-mail] (Mike Morris)
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In article <51ijjb$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Gus) writes
:
>From: [e-mail] (Gus)
>Subject: Re: PRO-43 case
>Date: Mon, 16 Sep 1996 06:01:29 GMT

The best case arpound for the Pro-43 is the Moto GP-300 case.

>Dan <[e-mail]> wrote:

>>Is it possible to order a new case for the pro-43 from Radio Shack? (the
>>actual plastic case)
>yep
>>If so, do you know the part number and cost?
>Assembly, Case, Front     GA-91D-9416
>       Case, Front                 GE-91A-9207
>       Window,  LCD            GE-91C-9208

>Assembly, Case, Rear for USA    GA-92D-9488
>       Case, Rear                               GE-91A-9216
>       Label, Model for USA              GE-91D-9433

>Screw, Bindinghead Machine BLK (Zn)    BM3X5BLK(Zn)

>Cover, Battery    GE-91C-9217

>Key Top     GE-91C-9212  (Rubber Key Board piece only

>Case screw, 2.6x25 Pan head Machine BLK (Zn)   PM2.6X25BLK(Zn)

>These are the Mfr's Part No.  no RS number was given.  this is from
>the RS Pro-43 Service Manual  20-300/9300  I do not have the prices
>for these but you should be able to get them from RS if they can get
>the parts

>>My 43 is looking rough and the numbers are starting to show wear  I
>>should have used a soft case or something. Is there a softcase made just
>>for the 43?
>There is one close that works.  it is sold at RS
>>Thanks





From [e-mail] Fri Sep 27 22:22:21 1996
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[e-mail] (David M Schertzer) wrote:

>Radio Shack sells a case!!  95 catalog p.g 33
>Stock:  20-024   $9.99
>Use it for mine!!1

This would be the leather case.  in the 97 catalog it is on page 43.
I would see if some of the ones on page 42 would work as they have a
window for the display and a open square for the keyboard.  They are
for other model radios but is they fit.



From [e-mail] Fri Sep 27 22:22:22 1996
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Dan <[e-mail]> wrote in article <[e-mail]>...
> Is it possible to order a new case for the pro-43 from Radio Shack? (the
> actual plastic case)
> If so, do you know the part number and cost?

YES!!  ...Uh, I think so, anyway....

   One of the redeeming qualities about RS...they have readily-avialable
parts and accessories for almost *any* product, as long as it is not older
than, say, 10 years.

      Go to your nearest friendly RS, and find the display that has about
6, or 7,  3-inch binders laid out in a row...there's a lighted display
above it, and every RS I've been in has seen fit to place their fax machine
there....therefore, easy-to-find.  Track it down in the store, and you've
found your answer:

    All of these binders contain RS's products/accessories/parts that are
available vial mail.  After 90 seconds of searching, you can probably find
the list of parts for the pro-43, (if not, look on your pro-43 for a
catalog #.....starts with a 17, if I'm not wrong) write down the part # you
need, and take it to the counter.  Chances are, the sales droid you will
encounter knows less than you've learned in the last 3 paragraphs.

     In case your pro-43 is so worn that you no longer have a cataloge #,
ask the droid if he can "call and find out..." He has an an 800 # set up
for RS employees to ask where/what/when questions about RS products.  Lord
knows I used it dozens of times....and damn, if the operators weren't
right-on, *every* time. (It is very telling that RS deems it necc' to
properly train & equip corporate support operators with extensive technical
information via GUI software, yet doesn't seem to think that the salesfolks
are worthy of the same.  Ah, well...)

   Hope this helps, and maybe other members of this newsgroup can chime in
on the cataloge # of the pro-43.

                Jay


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From: Jozef Hand-Boniakowski <[e-mail]>
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PRO 2034 scanner for sale.  Specs in the radio
shack catalog.  Great shape in and out.
Seldom used.  $90.00 plus shipping handling to
be boxed at local shipping center sent COD.

Jozef
WB2MIC


From [e-mail] Fri Sep 27 22:22:24 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Bill Cheek)
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[e-mail] (David Bernazzani) wrote:

>I recently got a used pro62 and wanted to use my 9V 300mA adapter with
>it.  I don't have the manual... can anyone look up the minimum rating
>on the suggested wall transformer for this unit?

The manual is available from Tandy Parts at [phone].
Otherwise, call a Radio Schloque store and ASK them for the correct
wall adapter for the PRO-62.

:-)

Bill Cheek
Scannist Extrordinaire



From [e-mail] Fri Sep 27 22:22:25 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Highway)
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Hi, Can you help me?
I live in Rhode Island and am looking for or trying to find some
frequency's that aren't published in the usual scanner guides.
Looking for State Police freq's and any other police dept.
freq's other than the ones listed. I have 5 freq's for Prov.
P.D.  ... do you have any more?
also, would be glad to help anyone looking for area frequencies,
if i can help, I will.
thanks, Ray



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From: [e-mail] (Tom Cwikla)
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In <524kvj$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Robert J Batina) writes
:

>Let's say that I have a set of Rabbit xmit/recievers.  And, let's also
>say that they don't have a very good broadcast distance, one that can
>barely transmit a signal to the upstairs TV in a two story house.  Now,
>is there a way that the output on this puppy could be boosted, for a
>better signal?  Now of course, this is all hypothetical, but I was just
>wondering if there was a quick fix that would add MORE POWER (grunt grunt
>grunt) to this thing.

If you want to increase the distance, a far simpler and more effective way
is to improve the antenna. Since this thing thansmits at 900 MHz you can
easily make a two or three element Yagi antenna on either the transmitter or
receiver or both, and your range will improve significantly. If you need
more range, simply add more elements.
Right now, the little whip antenna that's on the thing sends the transmitted
signal in all directions. By making a better antenna you will be
concentrating all the power into one very narrow and powerful beam.

--Tom.


From [e-mail] Fri Sep 27 22:22:28 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Paul Grohe)
Subject: Re: RABBIT transmitters - MODIFICIATIONS?
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On 23 Sep 1996 00:17:55 GMT,
in the newsgroup sci.electronics.equipment,
[e-mail] (Robert J Batina)
from InfiNet thoughtfully posted:

> Let's say that I have a set of Rabbit xmit/recievers.  And, let's also
> say that they don't have a very good broadcast distance, one that can
> barely transmit a signal to the upstairs TV in a two story house.  Now,
> is there a way that the output on this puppy could be boosted, for a
> better signal?  Now of course, this is all hypothetical, but I was just
> wondering if there was a quick fix that would add MORE POWER (grunt grunt
> grunt) to this thing.   If you have a mod I could theoretically do, or a
> pointer to this info, I'd greatly appreciate it.   Tnx
>

I tried out a bunch of those 900MHz TV sender things. The Rabbit
was the *worst* performing of the bunch. Typical useable range in
a residence was about 15 feet. It also drifted like hell. Very
poor video quality (and they can also mess up 900MHz cordless
phones). Don't bother with it!

The best solution I have found is the "WV-050 UHF Videosender"
UHF transmitter.

Available from:

 Black Feather Electronics
 645 Temple Ave. #7
 Long Beach, CA 90814
 1-800-526-3717
 V:310.434.5641
 Fx:310.434.9142

 WV-050 Videosender
 Around $35 US (Not Avail in UK)

It transmits on a standard UHF channel, so no clumsy "converter"
box is needed on the receiving TV's. Just their regular UHF
antenna and tuner will suffice. It sends a good, *stable*,
useable picture about 50 feet. The unit is about the size of a
pack of cigarettes, and runs off of 12VDC (AC adapter is
included).

***WARNING-WARNING-WARNING*** It comes from the factory tuned to
UHF channel 15 (476-482 MHz). This may be okay for most areas.

HOWEVER, in some areas (like here in the SF bay area), channel 14
may be in use, causing some interference to Ch 15.

You may be tempted to tune the transmitter up to Ch 17 or so, to
avoid interference. **THIS IS NOT ADVISED!** In some communities,
Ch's 16-18 (482-500 MHz) are used for 2-way radio communications,
including police, fire, and ambulance services (especially 488 &
491 MHz here in the SF peninsula). If you must re-tune the
transmitter, tune it for channel 20 or higher. Otherwise, a very
angry Sheriff Taylor may come knocking at your door!

The unit is very simple and straightforward. Anyone familiar with
RF can figure out how to tune it. You have to bend a coil to get
it into the "ballpark", and then "fine tune" it with the trimcap.

If anyone needs a little more help in tweaking it, just send me a
e-mail request, WHEN YOU HAVE THE UNIT IN YOUR HANDS, and I will
send you more detailed instructions.

My unit is in every day use linking the living room VCR (used as
a tuner) to the kitchen TV. Works great!

Cheers,
Paul Grohe

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From [e-mail] Fri Sep 27 22:22:29 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Paul Grohe)
Subject: Re: RABBIT transmitters - MODIFICIATIONS?
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In the newsgroup sci.electronics.misc.
[e-mail] (Bob) from
ProLog - PenTeleData, Inc. thoughtfully posted:

> In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] says...
> >
> >Since the rabbit transmits in the 900Mhz band as a part 15 device to
> >increase the power would thus make it an illegal amateur transmitter.
>
>
> Hmmm... I have a bunch of these things that I got at a close out sale
> (pretty good ones, too) that xmit in the 900 MHz range.
>
> I just happen to have a technician class Ham licence.  Can these be
> converted easily to Amateur TV transmitters?  I've wondered about this
> before, since they seem to xmit in the 900MHz ham range.

Except for the $150 Vidcraft(?) set, all of those transmitters are tuned circu
it
L-C oscillators running around 910MHz (sound familiar?). You can tune them to
transmit anywhere you want.

Keep in mind they are drifty, fairly noisy and not well filtered. The
construction used in most of them is not exactly stripline and groundplanes!

Isn't there a regulation for frequency stability and signal fidelity in amateu
r
transmissions?

You would be better off designing/building/buying something designed for ATV.

> The point is probably moot, though, because I don't think we have any
> ATV repeaters near my home.

They simply would not have enough power to reach the repeater. Changing the
collector resistor may not yield much.

If you have the skill to design and build a 900MHz PA, why not go a step furth
er
and build a good, clean, stable 900MHz exciter.

If you are going to spend the money on a 900MHz beam and 900MHz power amps, wh
y
not use a good, reliable transmitter...Don't embarrass yourself "on the air"
(*IF* you even get that far!)

Cheers,
Paul Grohe

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From [e-mail] Fri Sep 27 22:22:33 1996
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From: Tom Filecco <[e-mail]>
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Bob wrote:
>
> In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] says...
> >
> >Since the rabbit transmits in the 900Mhz band as a part 15 device to
> >increase the power would thus make it an illegal amateur transmitter.
>
> Hmmm... I have a bunch of these things that I got at a close out sale
> (pretty good ones, too) that xmit in the 900 MHz range.
>
> I just happen to have a technician class Ham licence.  Can these be
> converted easily to Amateur TV transmitters?  I've wondered about this
> before, since they seem to xmit in the 900MHz ham range.
>
> The point is probably moot, though, because I don't think we have any
> ATV repeaters near my home.

There was an article in 73 magazine a while back which detailed how to boost
the power of the 900 Mhz. VCR rabbits so they could be used as a 900 Mhz. ATV
transmitter. They are already on frequency, and the holder of a technician (or

higher class) license would have no problems (FCC reg wise) with using a boost
ed
VCR rabbit for ATV use, as long as it's used within the guidelines of the FCC'
s
amateur service regs.

Any hams in the Boston area who're involved/wants to get involved in 900 Mhz.
ATV, please email me. I also
have one of those rabbits and would like to do some 900 Mhz. ATV experimentati
on some weekend.

-Tom, KA2UCP
 [e-mail]

-Tom, KA2UCP


From [e-mail] Fri Sep 27 22:22:33 1996
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From: [e-mail] (PHIL)
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Subject: Radio Shack  2005- How to clean depressed buttons???
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        I  have a RS 2005- and from lots of  use the buttons got depressed,
Can I clean them to make them pop out or do you have any ideas ?????

It's a great scanner and I would like to get it back to tip-top shape  !!!!

                                           Thank you


From [e-mail] Fri Sep 27 22:22:34 1996
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From: [e-mail] (D Stark)
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In article <5255pg$q4_004@phil-s.-ditto>, [e-mail] (PHIL) wrote:
>        I  have a RS 2005- and from lots of  use the buttons got depressed,
>Can I clean them to make them pop out or do you have any ideas ?????

        Grind up a little Prozac in distilled water and
scrub the depressed buttons with the solution.  After
several weeks they should begin to feel more normal.  Some
additional counseling may be required for full recovery.

:-)

73 de Dave, NF2G


From [e-mail] Fri Sep 27 22:22:35 1996
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PHIL wrote:
>
>         I  have a RS 2005- and from lots of  use the buttons got depressed,
> Can I clean them to make them pop out or do you have any ideas ?????
>
> It's a great scanner and I would like to get it back to tip-top shape  !!!!
>
>                                            Thank you
Someone has suggested Lemon Pledge. No joke.
--
        When one has a chance to annoy
        people, one should do so.
                     --Oswald Spengler
                Philosopher of History


From [e-mail] Fri Sep 27 22:22:36 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Barry, WA2KLS)
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Try electrical contact cleaner. It should clean the crud out from
under and around the buttons. Regards, Barry WA2KLS
Porchnoy <[e-mail]> wrote:

>PHIL wrote:
>>
>>         I  have a RS 2005- and from lots of  use the buttons got depressed,
>> Can I clean them to make them pop out or do you have any ideas ?????
>>
>> It's a great scanner and I would like to get it back to tip-top shape  !!!!
>>
>>                                            Thank you
>Someone has suggested Lemon Pledge. No joke.
>--
>       When one has a chance to annoy
>       people, one should do so.
>                    --Oswald Spengler
>               Philosopher of History




From [e-mail] Fri Sep 27 22:22:37 1996
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From: Ronald Coursey <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Radio Shack 2006 New Scanner $350
Date: Thu, 19 Sep 1996 17:23:34 -0700
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I have 10 brand new sealed in the box Radio Shack scanners - these are
brand new not refurbs or serviced they are NEW!
Selling for $350 each firm.
General Device Instruments
408-241-7376

Fed-X shipping US $15 (2 Day Air) COD add $5
We take Visa and Master Card as long as shipment is to the same
address that the bank send you your bill.

Please ask for Ron Coursey

Sorry we only have 10


From [e-mail] Fri Sep 27 22:22:38 1996
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Barry, WA2KLS wrote:
>
> Unless I'm missing something, why was this message posted 3 times,
> under 3 DIFFERENT headings, and sent one after the other to this
> newsgroup. Barry WA2KLS
> Ronald Coursey <[e-mail]> wrote:
>
> >I have 10 brand new sealed in the box Radio Shack scanners - these are
> >brand new not refurbs or serviced they are NEW!
> >Selling for $350 each firm.
> >General Device Instruments

Barry,

That isn't what bugged me about this ad...  Forget that it goes against
the non-comercial ideal of the newsgroup...  forget that the guy sent it
three times... what bugged me was that he didn't give us the one piece
of information that we need:  Is it a 20-145A and thus modifyable?

So now, we have sent two messages regarding his three.  That's a total
of five thus far, when just one would have done the trick.  Come to
think of it, I really shouldn't post this.  But hell, I've already
written it.

Malcolm


From [e-mail] Fri Sep 27 22:22:39 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Bud Jamison)
Date: 22 Sep 96 14:24:04
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e> of information that we need:  Is it a 20-145A and thus modifyable?

ALL 2006s are modifiable.  It *IS* the other things you mentioned, after all.

:(

... EVERYTHING seems to make MY body grow twelve different ways!


From [e-mail] Fri Sep 27 22:22:40 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Steve Work)
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Steve Work ([e-mail]) wrote:

: The only problem was that he posted the thing about 10 times.  Maybe
: he's new to the net and is not sure how to find out for sure if his post
: got through.  And also, if anyone takes him up on his offer, his service
: (or lack thereof) will be fully documented in this group.  But other than
: that, the offer was one which would make a true scanner buff salivate,
: and I think it was totally appropriate.

One other thing, please don't interpret this as me saying the guy is not
reputable, I know that this is not the case.  I was just saying that
in general, people who advertise can have the results of their dealings
posted.  This was *not* meant by me to be a personal attack on Mr.
Coursey.  I think he is doing the scanner community a favor by offering
these valuable and hard-to-get radios for sale.


From [e-mail] Fri Sep 27 22:22:41 1996
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From: Steve Eklund <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: Radio Shack FRS radios
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[e-mail] wrote:
>
> [e-mail] (David Horak) wrote:
>
> >In <50va0j$[e-mail]> [e-mail] writes:
>
> >>I just noticed in the new Radio Shack Catalog Item #21-1805 their
> >>Motorola FRS 7 channel radio.  Didn't the FCC allocate 14 freqs. for
> >>FRS?  That'd be like buying a CB with only ch 21-40.  What's the deal?
> >>Do they expect you go go GMRS if you want the other seven channels?  If I
> >>do go with FRS, I certainly intend to wait until I can buy a 14 channel
> >>radio...
>
> >>Any information regarding this situation would be appreciated...  I had
> >>been awaiting FRS ever since I had heard of it, as short range
> >>communications are the only reason I have handheld CBs in the first place.
...
> >>But now, I am skeptical, at least with the RS radios....
>
> > I believe the FRS only allocates these 7 channels.
>
> > David
> Only 7 channels allocated........try not to be so negative!!!  Most
> large corparations  are not  out to cheat you.  They did not get where
> they are today by being misleading,deceptive or dishonest.  ust my
> 02.

David,

I hope that you are being cynical! Do you really think that large
corporations got to where they are by being honest and truthful? Hah!!!
If there is a buck to be made, they will do whatever it takes to sway the
public. I will bet that more than half of all the advertising you see is
hype and BS. One look at an adverage children's toy commercial is enough
to make me sick! They see this dramatic, fancy toy doing all sorts of
crazy things, with the 1812 symphony playing in the background, and when
they open it on Christmas morning they see a lifeless piece of plastic
staring them in the face. That is the reality of corporate America!

Steve


From [e-mail] Fri Sep 27 22:22:41 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Armadillo)
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Subject: Re: Radio Shack Pro-2045 - Why no word on them?
Date: Sun, 22 Sep 1996 17:33:39 GMT
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On Sun, 22 Sep 1996 06:53:13 GMT, [e-mail] (Daniel M. Conti)
wrote:

>The new Radio Shack Pro-2045, listed in the new catalog seems like a
>decent scanner, and I wonder why there's been no talk of it, pro or
>con..ANYWHERE.....
>
Good question.

>Yes, I know it's a scaled down version of the Uniden 9000, and at the
>list price, OVERPRICED!
>
Yes, at $349 for 200 channels it's a bit much. I found one at a
hamfest for $299 about a week after they started showing up in the
stores. I intend to keep it, although it is still kind of expensive
for a 200 channel scanner, it is an excellent radio. The CTCSS board
appears to be the same one that's in the 9000 and it works great too.
By far, this is the best of the bunch of RS 200 channel base line
(which is a crowded spot :) ). It is also the most expensive.

If you were looking for something and don't want computer control,
this might be a good option. It'll be on sale again, I'm sure.
Otherwise, I'd see if I could find a 2035 on clearance and put an
optoscan unit in it.

Ken


From [e-mail] Fri Sep 27 22:22:43 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Francis Murphy)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Radio Shack Weather Station WX 200
Date: Wed, 25 Sep 1996 03:36:28 GMT
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 Radio Shack Weather Station WX 200

Has anyone seen the new weather station that Radio Shack is offering?
I guess they are trying to compete with the Davis Instruments.
The new catalog says that they developed with  Accu Weather a unit
that is affordable.
From what I see this deal sounds to good to be true ( but I hope it
is!)
So for 299.99 you get all these features:
temperature
relative humidity
dew point
barometric pressure
wind speed/direction
wind chill rainfall and rates
clock
Records highs and lows for all measurements also has alarms for highs
and lows.
Has all the cables, outdoor rain gauge, wind sensor, and temp/humidty
sensor.Needs 8 AA batteries for backup. Run on AC.

**PLUS it comes with the software to run on a IBM compatible! to keep
track of all readings!
And of course the software offers to link you with Accu Weather on
line (for a small fee).
Now this unit is not available until Oct 30 1996 ( yea right)

SO if anyone has the inside scoop on this please drop me some  e-mail.

[e-mail]
**The next time travlers meeting will be last week**



From [e-mail] Fri Sep 27 22:22:46 1996
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From: John Mackey KA0SSF <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: Real Audio Problem
Date: Wed, 25 Sep 1996 02:37:56 -0700
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To: "Scott A. Nelson" <[e-mail]>

Scott A. Nelson wrote:

> Anyone ever have this problem?  I get into RealAudio fine, it seems to
> work o.k.  Then when I close the RA Player and go to another webpage, I
> get a General Protection Error.  I have to close all windows and then
> open Netscape again.  Any clues???

I assume this is with Win 3.1. (since GPF errors are rare with win95)

Make sure your config.sys has the following:
files = 45 (or more)
stacks = 9,256
shell=c:\dos\command.com c:\dos\ /p/e:2048

If you are running smartdrive then you also need:
buffers = 15,0 (or more)
If you are not running smartdrive then you also need:
buffers = 45

You also need to (at least) have 8 MB of ram, a virtual
memory PERMANENT file of at least 3 times the amount of ram.

If you are running QEMM then make sure you ARE NOT
in "stealth mode".

Do a "mem" command from dos & make sure you have at least
530k of memory in "largest executable program size" in the
lower right hand corner after typing "mem".  If you do not
have at least 530K then try running "memmaker" (unless you
are running QEMM).

If no resolve then run scandisk (chkdsk/f if in dos 6.0 or
earlier) & then run defrag.

If that does not solve it then write back & we'll
go from there.

Good luck.




From [e-mail] Fri Sep 27 22:22:47 1996
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Subject: Real Audio Problem
Date: Tue, 24 Sep 1996 21:31:24 -0700
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Anyone ever have this problem?  I get into RealAudio fine, it seems to
work o.k.  Then when I close the RA Player and go to another webpage, I
get a General Protection Error.  I have to close all windows and then
open Netscape again.  Any clues???


From [e-mail] Fri Sep 27 22:22:47 1996
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I am trying to repair a Regency MX-3000.  Does anyone have any info on a
schematic, service/owners manual or reset button?

Thanks,

Jim, N2ZZ


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I was just asked to fix a REGENCY MX-3000.  When turned on, the display
returns as "error".  As far as I can tell, the unit passes the smoke
test, and no fried parts are seen.

Need schematic/service manual or owners manual.   Location of a reset
would be helpful also!

ANY Help appreciated!

'73 de JIM N2ZZ


From [e-mail] Fri Sep 27 22:22:49 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Joey Koppes)
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Subject: REQ: Winona MN Frequencies
Date: Fri, 20 Sep 1996 02:53:19 GMT
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Does anybody have the police and fire department freqs for Winona
Minnesota in Winona County.

Is there any other interesting freqs. in this area?

Thanks

Joey Koppes
[e-mail]


From [e-mail] Fri Sep 27 22:22:50 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Eric LE)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Request: Pro-2032 mods
Date: 21 Sep 1996 20:32:00 GMT
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huckinsb ([e-mail]) wrote:

: i did the cell mod to mine about a year ago. it was easy as i remember.
: if you don't get a reply, i'll open mine up and look what i did. email
: me . . . i go out of town during the week, however, i'll get back to you.
: i know how frustrating it is to want to make the mod and can't get the
: info. fast enough.

Yes.. really frustrating... Fortunately I got a reply from Gary Jacek
which contains 2 different ways of doing the cellular restoration mod.
It is extremely easy, but you need the diagram to locate the right part
of the IC to scratch.

If anyone wants the mod, email me!

Eric



From [e-mail] Fri Sep 27 22:22:54 1996
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From: Jim Gridler <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: RG 59\U
Date: Tue, 24 Sep 1996 19:21:45 -0400
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Bill Cheek wrote:
>
> [e-mail] (tyler) wrote:
>
> >>>"roger" <[e-mail]> wrote:
>
> >>>Can anyone tell me if RG 59\U is OK to use with a PRO-39 & an all band
> >>>antenna. Thanks!     Roger
>
> >> Bill Cheek replied:
>
> >>Sure is.  Beats the snot out of RG-58 and is still small and flexible.
> >>I wouldn't use it for lengths much greater than 25-ft.  Any longer,
> >>and I'd go for RG-6 satellite cable, or...if you're a "purist", use
> >>Belden 9913....but that may be overkill for your needs.
> >>
> >>Bill Cheek
> >>Scannist Extraordinaire
>
> > Then Tyler attacks as follows:
>
> >What the "Scannist Extraordinaire/Logistics eng/Electrical eng/" failed
> >to mention was that RG 59 is not 50 ohms, but 75.  It sure helps to match y
our
> >antenna to your feedline to your radio.  Geeez Bill, what are you telling
> >these people?
>
> Same thing that I am fixing to tell YOU, my fine, nescient, duly
> licensed and approved amateur radio oprator.  Take notes.  I will be
> giving a pop quiz later:
>
> All self-respecting amateur radio operators with official licenses
> from the Federales know that a 75-50 ohm mismatch causes a 1.5:1 VSWR,
> the loss of which is 4%. This equates to a loss of less than 0.2 dB.
>
> The lower loss of RG-59 with respect to RG-58 makes the proposition a
> net GAIN.  It's even more exemplified with RG-6 satellite cable.
>
> Back to Boy Scout Merit Badge Radio for you, Numbnuts.  Now turn off
> the attack mode.
>
> >Tyler  AMATEUR RADIO OPERATOR.  N3SPD.  Yes Bill, it is a simple law of
> >physics.  The inductance of a coil is determined by the core material.
>
> It's also affected by many other things....  :-)
>
> > If you place a metal screwdriver near the coil, the inductance changes.
> > I'll look it up for you if you'd like.
>
> Geezus H. Kriste, are you dense or what?  There are no coils in X-301.
> What's it going to take to get that concept hammered through your
> thick skull?  If a coil will be affected by any procedure that I write
> about, I will give due caveats and probably specify the proper tuning
> tool, if one is substantially better than another.  If I don't specify
> something of that nature, then it just doesn't matter.
>
> In the best interests of brevity and to avoid the costs and confusion
> of verbosity, I do not make a practice of giving a Basic Electronics
> Course in everything I write.  What I do write is to the point and
> tailored for the needs and idiosynchracies of the specific project.
>
> If you feel you can do better, then by all means, pal, belly up to the
> bar and get yourself counted.  And then write!  Stick it out.  Let's
> see what you're made of, if not "attack-cheese".
>
> Bill Cheek
> Scannist Extraordinaire


I think this is truely beautiful.

Jim Gridler


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From: [e-mail] (Bill Cheek)
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Date: Wed, 25 Sep 1996 14:36:21 GMT
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[e-mail] (tyler) wrote:


>BILL CHEEK'S PROFESSIONAL RESPONSE TO TYLER BY E-MAIL FOLLOWS:

Nice move, Mister Amateur Radio Operator Tyler.  You lose.

Now read and reply to my REAL response to you.






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From: [e-mail] (Bill Cheek)
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Subject: Re: RG 59\U
Date: Fri, 27 Sep 1996 03:41:17 GMT
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John Mackey KA0SSF <[e-mail]> wrote:

>tyler wrote:
>
>> In article <3242dda8.68916091@192.188.72.19>, [e-mail] says...
>> >Sure is.  Beats the snot out of RG-58 and is still small and flexible.
>> >I wouldn't use it for lengths much greater than 25-ft.  Any longer,
>> >and I'd go for RG-6 satellite cable, or...if you're a "purist", use
>> >Belden 9913....but that may be overkill for your needs.
>
>> What the "Scannist Extraordinaire/Logistics eng/Electrical eng/" failed
>> to mention was that RG 59 is not 50 ohms, but 75.  It sure helps to match y
our
>> antenna to your feedline to your radio.  Geeez Bill, what are you telling
>> these people?
>
>
>That is EXACTLY correct.  Using rg-59 will immediately give you a 2:1
>SWR which will create signal loss

Yes, a 4% loss, or less than 0.2-dB.

> because it is 75 ohm rather than 50 like  everyone uses.

No, not everyone uses 50 ohm cable.  For strictly receiving purposes,
there is no pressing need to even consider it.

> Then rg-59 IS NOT uv resistant so it will become even more lossy
> as time progresses if it is used outside or exposed to sunlight.

THAT isn't a very bright thing to say......when non-UV resistant
cables can last 20-years or longer, in the direct sunlight.  The outer
insulation has no bearing on loss, so long as its integrity is not
broached, and even when it is, any losses that may occur will not do
so until the shield is compromised, and that takes even longer still.

You are blowing smoke about nothing, sir.

> 9913 is also not uv resistant so even though it is the correct
> impedence it still has the same problem of becomming lossy like rg-59.

Good grief!  What an extremely nescient statement.

> The only coax that is uv resistant that I am aware of is rg-213 & 214.

Ummm hummmm, and those two cables are inherently lossy from the
git-go.

>BTW- Tyler, you forgot to mention that Bill also calls himself a
>Chemical Engineer.

Yup.  And you haven't seen the end of the list YET, pal.

Bill Cheek
Scannist Extraordinaire




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From: [e-mail] (Bill Cheek)
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Subject: Re: RS-2021
Date: Mon, 23 Sep 1996 05:06:20 GMT
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[e-mail] (BILL WATTS) wrote:

> * Crossposted from: iEMail
>To Bill Cheek-
>Thanks a lot for the detailed info on the EL on my
>RS-2021 scanner. I was hoping it was the 9v battery
>but no such luck. I got the scanner for six bucks at
>a yard sale about a year ago and started using it in
>place of a RS-2028 that I had got for sixty bucks, used,
>with manual.

Glad to be of help.  Decent scanner, albeit a trifle antiquated now.
But still.........for six measly bucks, that's a whopper of a scanner.
You can hardly get a decent hamburger for six bucks anymore.

:-)

Rgds,

Bill



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From: [e-mail] (Bill Cheek)
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Subject: Re: S-Meter for PRO-2004/5/6 & Other Scanners
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John Mackey KA0SSF <[e-mail]> wrote:

>Bill Cheek wrote:
>> send a strong signal into the scanner, and adjust the 5-k trimpot so
>> that the meter reads exactly full scale.  All other signals will then
>
>It would probably be OK to use your metallic screwdriver here.

Oh you silly fellow you.  The magnets in the D'Arsonval movement might
magnetize the tip and then you'd be S.O.L. when you laid that
screwdriver down on one of your floppy disks.  You're handicapped
enough as it is without taking on any more dead weight.

YOU would be better off using a popsicle stick.  :-))



From [e-mail] Fri Sep 27 22:22:59 1996
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From: Charles Uibel <[e-mail]>
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Please send Police or any other frequencies


From [e-mail] Fri Sep 27 22:23:00 1996
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From: [e-mail] (William Wood)
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Subject: San Diego CA MilAir Freqs?
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Does anyone have any good information on San Diego area MilAir
frequencies?  I have a copy of ScanFan and it lists *tons* of
frequencies, but most of them aren't used on a regular basis.
I'm trying to listen in on their offshore exercises.  Also,
if anyone has a good list of SD military callsigns or area
designation signs, I'd like those too.  Here are just a few of
the frequency/area names I hear often:

Starburst
SweetLock/SweetComm (sp?)
Papa-1 through Papa-5
Warchief
Whiskey

I've been considering ordering some Aeronautical charts of the
area to see if it has any useful information.  Does anyone ever
use these charts to help in scanning?

I'm also interested in any other interesting military frequencies
that can be picked up in southern Orange County.

Bill Wood

--
William J. Wood
Lockheed Martin Aeronutronic
[e-mail]


From [e-mail] Fri Sep 27 22:23:00 1996
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Subject: Re: Scanner  freq books
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In a previous article, Jeffrey Maas <[e-mail]> wrote:
->Any good Freq books in the NJ area?
->Ari

Scanner Master NJ/NY 6th. Ed. recently came out. It probably will have
just about anything you will want in it.
Call them to order (it's not cheap) 800-722-6701
Have fun,
Phil


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From: [e-mail] (Mike Basinger)
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Subject: Scanner Freqs in Bloomington, Indiana Area
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I'm looking for useful scanner freqs. in the Bloomington, Indiana
area. I looked for a Scanner guide at Radio Shack, but they were sold
out (plus I don't like giving them money).

Thanks for any info,
Mike
--
D. Michael Basinger [N9YYO]
[e-mail]
<http://copper.ucs.indiana.edu/~dbasinge/>
"Not speaking for Indiana University"


From [e-mail] Fri Sep 27 22:23:02 1996
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From: Ben Castillo <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: Scanner Freqs in Bloomington, Indiana Area
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Mike Basinger wrote:
>
> I'm looking for useful scanner freqs. in the Bloomington, Indiana
> area. I looked for a Scanner guide at Radio Shack, but they were sold
> out (plus I don't like giving them money).
>
> Thanks for any info,
> Mike
> --
> D. Michael Basinger [N9YYO]
> [e-mail]
> <http://copper.ucs.indiana.edu/~dbasinge/>
> "Not speaking for Indiana University"

Try this web site:

http://www.panix.com/~clay/scanning/frequencies/states/

--
Ben Castillo KE4YWE
From Miami, Fl. USA
(Sunshine capital)


From [e-mail] Fri Sep 27 22:23:03 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Raymond Miller)
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Subject: Scanner OK to use on U.S. Air flights?
Date: 21 Sep 1996 00:32:49 GMT
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Does anyone have any firsthand information on the use of scanners upon
the U.S. Air airline flights. I have gathered from past postings that
they are generally not allowed to be in operation during take-off or
landing but that SOME airlines do allow them for the remainder of the
flight and that this is further left up to the captain of the plane. I
am just curious if I'll have any chance of taking it on a flight to
florida in a few months. Thanks for any help.
Regards, Raymond Miller, N2NJK


From [e-mail] Fri Sep 27 22:23:04 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Jeff Goldman)
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Subject: Re: Scanner OK to use on U.S. Air flights?
Date: 22 Sep 1996 01:30:59 GMT
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You best bet is Delta.  The last time I flew on Delta they allowed the
use of scanners after takeoff and before landing.  Actually, I find
listening at the airport to be more interesting.



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Subject: Re: Scanner OK to use on U.S. Air flights?
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Raymond Miller wrote:
>
> Does anyone have any firsthand information on the use of scanners upon
> the U.S. Air airline flights. I have gathered from past postings that
> they are generally not allowed to be in operation during take-off or
> landing but that SOME airlines do allow them for the remainder of the
> flight and that this is further left up to the captain of the plane. I
> am just curious if I'll have any chance of taking it on a flight to
> florida in a few months. Thanks for any help.
> Regards, Raymond Miller, N2NJKI've used them but couldn't get anything, I th
ink transmitting is the
problem not recieving.


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Did anyone question you, or were you "secret agent man"? I flew TWA and
got caught, needless to say the attendant wasn't happy at all.

 "Shall I have the captain talk to you about it?" she asked.

I am going to Atlanta soon on US Air, will I have to be incognito so I
wont be incommunicado?


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From: [e-mail] (Robert Whitehill)
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Subject: Re: Scanner OK to use on U.S. Air flights?
Date: Tue, 24 Sep 1996 13:33:04 GMT
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[e-mail] (Jeff Goldman) wrote:

>You best bet is Delta.  The last time I flew on Delta they allowed the
>use of scanners after takeoff and before landing.  Actually, I find
>listening at the airport to be more interesting.

   I used mine on a trip from DC To Miami.  USAir.  Heard someone in
Savanna dial into a "date line mailbox"   Was an interesting trip :)


Robert Whitehill
----------------
Nascar & Mark Martin # 1 in 1996



From [e-mail] Fri Sep 27 22:23:08 1996
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Icom R-7100 (new)(5 left) - $750.00
Icom R-7000 (near new)(2 left) - $500
Icom R-1 (new) (2 left)- $350
Kenwood RZ1 (used) (1 left)- $175
PRO-2006 (new in box) (10 left) - $350
BC-55XLT (used) (3left) - $50
Tribander from Cushcraft (new)(6 left) - $150
80m vertical (??)(1left) - $50
3-500A tubes (new) (unlimited) - $25
4CX250R tubes (new) (20 left) - $35
4CX5000A tubes (new) 4 left - $115

Hurry because these wont last long.  \\GQ Enterprises//



From [e-mail] Fri Sep 27 22:23:09 1996
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From: "E. Scott Sykes" <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Scanners!!! Tell them what you want!
Date: Sat, 21 Sep 1996 18:38:36 -0300
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Don't we, as the consumers with all the money in the world
(collectively), have the right to say what we desire in a Scanning
reciever? What we say and what we purchase should drive the market.

We want:
Full range capable .5 khz to 2.0 ghz or higher (+)
All Mode
Multiple ant. connectors w/automatic switch
Serial interface (High Speed)
CTCSS,DCS,LTR,DTMF,ACARS,POCSAG,WEFAX,and so on ... capable (+)
Scan by PL Tone
Programmable Attenuation
Fast!
Alphanumeric Display
Multi-level Priorities
Multi-level Delay
Digital ready and upgradable (+)
Hundreds of channels Unlimited banking Upgradable Memory
Multi-level Lockouts (Birdies,Temp,Timed,Permanent)
Sound Card Integrated Software controled audio recording w/DSP (+)
External contacts,controls,and interfaces,oh my!!!
more,more,more
Most features work without a PC!!!!
---------------------------------------------------------------

(+) [might be a fight to get]

We want it all and we are willing to pay for it!!!

A modular Scanner with multiple options/boards/software versions.
Buy what options you want,need, or can afford.
Let's tell them what we want! Let our purchasing power dictate
features,functions and capabilities.

What do you say?

What else do you want? Built-in HOKA CODE 3? Tell them and prepare
yourself for the hobby to keep up with technology and $$$!
---------------------------------------------------------------

(+) [might be a fight to get]

We want it all and we are willing to pay for it!!!

A modular Scanner with multiple options/boards/software versions.
Buy what options you want,need, or can afford.
Let's tell them what we want! Let our purchasing power dictate
features,functions and capabilities.
What do you say?


From [e-mail] Fri Sep 27 22:23:10 1996
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Subject: Re: Scanners!!! Tell them what you want!
Date: 22 Sep 1996 01:28:53 GMT
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"E. Scott Sykes" <[e-mail]> wrote:
>Don't we, as the consumers with all the money in the world
>(collectively), have the right to say what we desire in a Scanning
>reciever? What we say and what we purchase should drive the market.
>
>We want:
>Full range capable .5 khz to 2.0 ghz or higher (+)
>All Mode
>Multiple ant. connectors w/automatic switch
>Serial interface (High Speed)
>CTCSS,DCS,LTR,DTMF,ACARS,POCSAG,WEFAX,and so on ... capable (+)
>Scan by PL Tone
>Programmable Attenuation
>Fast!
>Alphanumeric Display
>Multi-level Priorities
>Multi-level Delay
>Digital ready and upgradable (+)
>Hundreds of channels Unlimited banking Upgradable Memory
>Multi-level Lockouts (Birdies,Temp,Timed,Permanent)
>Sound Card Integrated Software controled audio recording w/DSP (+)
>External contacts,controls,and interfaces,oh my!!!
>more,more,more
>Most features work without a PC!!!!
  (Snip)

Only problem is that the stores have to sell enough of the items to make a
profit.  Assume Radio Shack has 3000 company stores.  Each RS must sell a
couple a year for the outfit to make a buck.  That's 6000 radios.  The
warehouse must have a backup or two for each store, so you now have 9000
radios per year.  Uniden, of course, will sell a similar radio and they
have similar constraints, so now you have 18,000 radios per year that must
be sold in order for the company to come out ahead.  (BTW, if they can't
make a profit, they won't try to make 'em.)  That is a lot of scanner
buffs that need to shell out $1,000 or more for a radio.  Considering
there are only about 700 members of Scan-L, I find it hard to imagine that
there are enough of us out there to allow us to buy 18,000 of them every
year. The only force greater than the consumers' desire, is the need for
the company to make a profit.

I agree that such a radio would be great, but the numbers just don't
support it.  Your idea of a basic radio that allows numerous options to be
added is probably more feasable.  It's like buying a car...do you want the
stripped down version or do you want one with a sun-roof and a CD player?

As Forrest Gump would say, "...and that's all I have to say about that."

Andy



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From: RF BURNS <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: Scanners!!! Tell them what you want!
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How about a scanner that follows the standard uniden/johnson
trunking protocol this is non infringement I reilize GE and Motrola are
but how bout the rest

See that mountain over ther One of these days I'm gonna climb that
mountain!


RF Burns




From [e-mail] Fri Sep 27 22:23:14 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Rick Christian)
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Subject: Re: Scanners!!! Tell them what you want!
Date: Fri, 27 Sep 1996 15:18:27 GMT
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"E. Scott Sykes" <[e-mail]> wrote:

>Don't we, as the consumers with all the money in the world
>(collectively), have the right to say what we desire in a Scanning
>reciever? What we say and what we purchase should drive the market.


First:

A **PORTABLE** ala BC-200XLT with CTCSS & DPL! PLEASE!

Second:

A mobile/base w/:

1) Computer Interface to control ALL functions
2) Discriminator Output for various decoders from EMWIN/WEFAX/ACARS
etc. to whatever elese comes along.
3) 26MHz to 1.0 Ghz Coverage (I don't care about cellular, so I am not
going to wage that war to get it back.)
4) CTCSS & **DPL**
5) Multiple Priority's & Levels
6) 2 Tone/DTMF/5-6 Tone Pager Decode with a Contact output. This would
allow FD's to have scanners at FF res. with the ability to decode when
their agency was activated. A contact would allow for a siren, light,
or whatever to be activated.
7) NOAA WX Alert (OLD)& NOAA WSAME Alert (New)  **WITHOUT** it being a
choice between WX alert and scanning. Alarms should be a visible
indicator, audible, and/or none.
8) Programmable attenuation per channel.
9) 4-5 Programmble antenna ports.
10) EF Johnson LTR following. GE & Motorola are out, but EFJ is
willing to license their protocol to about anyone who puts the bucks
up.
11) Line Level output.
12) Triple Conversion
13) "COMMERCIAL" quality IF Filtering
13) Front End RF Filter
14) AM/FM/WFM/SSB modes



From [e-mail] Fri Sep 27 22:23:15 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Dr Pepper)
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Subject: Secret Service code names.
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I have seen various post on this, but have never seen them pasted all
together.   I have the following codes for the Secret Service,
and am missing a couple.  Can anyone help?

Dole            Patriot
Kemp            Champion
Mrs. Dole       Pioneer
Mrs. Kemp       Corner Stone
Hillary         Evergreen
Chelsea         Energy
Tipper Gore     Scatter, or
                Skylark
Al Gore         Sawhorse, or
                Saltwash

What is Slick Willie's code name?
How about others?
Dr Pepper
10 - 2 - 4




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Bill Clinton - Fat Boy
Hillary Clinton - The Bitch
Al Gore - Tree Hugger
Stephanopolous - The Brat
Livingstone - Who?
Marceca - Works with Who?
Ted Kennedy - Lush
Dick Gephardt - No eyebrow
Dick Morris - The John



From [e-mail] Fri Sep 27 22:23:17 1996
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In article <[e-mail]>,
   [e-mail] (kEN Colburn) wrote:
>i heard Clinton was Olympus.

I heard it was Gomer...or was it The Bongster? I forget now...

John Webster


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In a previous article, Ron Cain <[e-mail]> wrote:
->x-no-archive: yes
->
->John Webster wrote:
->>
->> In article <[e-mail]>,
->>    [e-mail] (kEN Colburn) wrote:
->> >i heard Clinton was Olympus.
->>
->> I heard it was Gomer...or was it The Bongster? I forget now...
->>
->> John Webster
->
->After Klinton announced there would be gays in the military, the
->Secret Service suggested "Ben Dover". But for some reason Klinton
->didn't like it.
->
->Cheers, Ron Cain

Don't you mean "Ben Denspredem"???


From [e-mail] Fri Sep 27 22:23:18 1996
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Subject: SF Bay Area FLEET WEEK
Date: 24 Sep 1996 20:04:16 GMT
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Next month its fleet week in the SF bay area and i was wondering if the freqs.

for the blue angles remain the same as last year...since that was the last
time i heard them.ALso,anyone in the bay area know what ships will be in and
what would be good to isten too??

Anthony


From [e-mail] Fri Sep 27 22:23:20 1996
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From: [e-mail] (MEM&GWM)
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Tracy Justus <[e-mail]> wrote:

>I'm not sure.  It should be listed in one of the HAM repeater books.
>If I'm getting it all the way in W. Simi Valley then I suspect that
>it's probably on Mt. Wilson.

>BTW: I have a BC200xlt and can only pick it up with my discone
>mounted on top of my TV antenna.  I'm near the 118 and 23 fwys.

Tracy,

448.5000 is not listed in SCANFAN but it was very active today.
Also, I am near the 405 fwy and Roscoe Blvd. (Galpin Ford) he he!

Good scanning to ya!




From [e-mail] Fri Sep 27 22:23:21 1996
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From: Jeff Stillinger <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: Shuttle in Los Angeles
Date: Wed, 25 Sep 1996 06:22:41 -0700
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Andy Long wrote:
>
> In article
> <[e-mail]>, Ken
> Koller <[e-mail]> wrote:
>
> >Hello all, FYI I'm getting the shuttle nice and clear on 146.670. I'm
> >just about 30 miles north of Downtown L.A.
> >
> >
> >Ken Koller
>
> Hello,
>
> You are not hearing a direct broadcast of shuttle transmissions.  You are
> hearing a NASA rebroadcast through amateur radio.  There are several
> sights set up around the country to rebroadcast all shuttle missions to
> the public, thru amateur radio.  The only exception is if the mission is
> military in nature or is of a secret nature.
>
> Andy

The only problem with monitoring the shuttle on ham radio is that hams
like to talk too much.  Scan around and I bet you will find something
outside the ham band that has a cleaner sound and most of all it is
uniterupted.

The lucky ones live within 10 miles of a NASA space center.  You can
hear the low power broadcasts via microwave.  Here in the Antelope Valley
I can monitor the shuttle via 22 different modes.  For the AV the best
is from Edwards AFB on 169.400.  LA AFB also has a UHF broadcasts that
is pretty good.

In short if you want the best coverage then go to the source.  The same
place that hams get a feed.  The best part is some dumb ass will not
start talking right in the middle of something interesting.

--js


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Subject: Re: Shuttle in Los Angeles
Date: Tue, 24 Sep 1996 04:23:32 -0700
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I'm not sure.  It should be listed in one of the HAM repeater books.
If I'm getting it all the way in W. Simi Valley then I suspect that
it's probably on Mt. Wilson.

BTW: I have a BC200xlt and can only pick it up with my discone
mounted on top of my TV antenna.  I'm near the 118 and 23 fwys.

MEM&GWM wrote:
> Heard the rebroadcasts of the undocking of the Shuttle and Mir in
> the San Fernando Valley, California on 448.5000R. Thanx Tracy!
>
> BTW, What is the location of the 75 centimeter band repeater?
> I come in nice and clear on my "rubber duckie" BC200.

--
________________________________
[e-mail]
http://www.westworld.com/~justus


From [e-mail] Fri Sep 27 22:23:22 1996
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Surveillance Frequencies used by police for BUGS, BODY WIRES, TREACKING
and VIDEO. Put yor hobby into overdrive with list I did. ! To many to
list here. E-Mail me  [e-mail]


From [e-mail] Fri Sep 27 22:23:23 1996
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From: [e-mail] (LOUIS IOCONA)
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Hello, and thanks for reading this. I picked up a Regency HX-1000
hand held programmable scanner at a local yard sale this weekend.
After some cleaning, I plugged it in and attempted to program it.
Seems to have some problems when entering frequency numbers. It will
double add a number like 55 instead of just 5. After some effort, and
if you press it just right, you can enter the desired frequency and go
on your way. Overall, it works OK, not bad I guess for $5.00. I do have
one major disadvantage. After entering any 500 MHz frequency into the
scanner and listening to the specific entry, The transmission sound very
distorted. Similiar to someone talking under water. All other frequency
bands are loud and clear. Any suggestions? Is it fixable? I am also
looking for a manual if someone has it availible. I will pay for copy
and shipping if required. Thanks again for taking time to read this.

                  Lou Iocona - N2PKT

                  [e-mail]


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Do you have current personnel requirements for the following??

====------------------------------------------------------====

-  Technical writing, desktop publishing, graphical design?

-  Help Desk (Technical Support) and Training?

-  Client server, workstation and local access network support?

-  LAN Administration of OS2, Novell Netware, and
   Microsoft LAN Manager?

-  Platform and network troubleshooting, problem tracing,
   re-installations, and reconfigurations?

-  Internet site administration, generation of WWW home page content,
   integration with marketing databases, administration of e-mail,
   FTP, and Telnet sessions?

I possess the knowledge, skills and experience to be an asset,
and I would welcome the opportunity to discuss my qualifications.
The resume below will provide a more complete summation of
my background and experience.

My geographic preference is the Philadelphia (PA), Central
New Jersey area.  I prefer permanent employment, but will consider
subcontract assignments of 4 months or longer.

My current assignment is completing.  My subcontract rate is
$35/hour locally.  My permanent salary requirement is $60,000.
I am negotiable.

Please contact me if my qualifications match any of your current
openings and you want to discuss my background further.

Please visit my World Wide Web (WWW) home page at
URL address...

                http://www.voicenet.com/~jerry

My home page provides access to additional personal information
and career documentation.  Thank you.


Synopsis of Key Strengths
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-  Multi-year experience writing Windows on-line multi-media
   help development and hard-copy documentation for business and
   technical applications,

-  Highly skilled in analysis, design, and organization of
   information for print and on-line hypertext.  Proficiency
   with Microsoft Windows, Word for Windows, and graphics
   packages to conceive and create effective graphics,

-  Competency with Windows Help authoring tools such as
   Doc-to-Help and Help Breeze (familiarity with ROBO Help) for
   preparation of system standards, manuals, procedures, and
   multi-media documents,

-  Operations support, Help Desk and end-user training and
   development,

-  Design of Internet web pages, WWW marketing, E-mail, FTP, and
   Telnet support,

-  LAN administration of MS-DOS, OS/2, Novell, and Macintosh
   multi-domain networks.  LAN project management, systems
   analysis, and creative problem resolution,

-  Office automation roll-out and platform migration, and
   hardware and software integration.  Hardware and software
   selection and system acquisition and configuration, and

-  Leadership qualities combined with ability to pioneer in new
   techniques and projects.  Detail-oriented, assertive,
   personable, flexible, well organized, team player.  Ability to
   communicate and manage effectively.


Syllabus of Background
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-  Achieved a depth of technical writing and editing expertise which
   spans over 20 years in mixed commercial, pharmaceutical,
   aerospace, and defense environments.  Background includes
   experience in:

   --  subject research,
   --  document textual and graphical design,
   --  desktop publishing,
   --  technical editing,
   --  development of document presentation standards,
   --  outgoing product quality assurance methods,
   --  end-user manuals and reference manuals,
   --  Windows hypertext on-line help applications,
   --  product user specifications,
   --  training materials,
   --  demonstration databases.

-  Generated context-sensitive on-line help and networking manuals
   using interview notes.  Utilized development tools to compile
   on-line help files from user guides.

-  Prepared technical documents including tables, graphics, and style
   guides.  Authored Windows macros to automate large document
   formatting, screen graphic migration, and optical character
   recognition.

-  Provided advanced multi-level Help Desk support in end-user
   workstation and client server telecommunication network
   environments. Performed platform and network troubleshooting,
   problem tracing, application re-installation, and platform
   reconfiguration.

-  Served as the site Internet administrator and focal point for the
   generation and integration of WWW home page content, maintenance of
   web server script presence and integrity, administration of e-mail,
   FTP, and Telnet sessions.

-  Supported and trained end-users on use of MS-DOS, Microsoft Office,
   Smartsuite, PerfectOffice, Windows 3.x, Microsoft'95, and Macintosh
   software packages.

-  Developed workstation, MS-DOS, Windows 3.x, Windows for Workgroups,
   database, spreadsheet, and communication scripts affecting graphic
   user interfaces, network communications, remote server utilization,
   electronic mail, and file transfers.

-  Designed, coded, and tested real-time data collection systems.
   Supported, managed, and administered LAN and e-mail functions
   (OS/2, MS LAN Manager, Windows NT) for a spectrum of networks
   (NetBIOS, TCP/IP, IPX/SPX) and applications. Networking platforms
   managed included LAN (ethernet and token ring), and protocols such
   as Token-Ring, Ethernet, and OS/2.

-  Overall network hardware experience includes MS Windows 3.x,
   Windows NT Server, Windows NT Workstation, Token-Ring, and
   Ethernet.


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                              Resume
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Gerald Farber
742 Bridgeview Road
Langhorne, PA  19053
Phone: [phone]
Email: [e-mail]

Objective
To obtain a position where my aggregate telecommunication
technical support [Help Desk], technical writing and editing,
course curricula and training experience and education will
contribute to the growth of a company which recognizes individual
effort and creative application of personal resources.

Education
Bachelor of Science, Marketing, LaSalle University
Graduate Courses, Industrial Engineering, Penn State University
    (achieved 33 of 36 credits toward Master of Science degree)

Continuing Education Units (CEUs)
Advanced Technical Writing, Desktop Publishing and Design,
Communication Skills, ISO 9000, Total Quality Management,
Continuous Process Improvement, Team Leader/Facilitator training,
Computer Application Software, and World Class Competitiveness.

Experience
12/95 to Present
Self-Employed, Software Engineer
Software Training and Internet Web Page Design

-  [Technical Writing]  Produce Windows on-line context sensitive help
   files using 'Doc- To-Help' for non-technical pharmaceutical audience.
   Create hyper-text files, formatted RTF files, segmented
   hyper-graphics, compiled HLP files, and indexed technical manuals for
   Windows based software applications.  Generate embedded Windows
   macros, document templates, style guides and hyper-linked text and
   graphics.  Produce manuals, visual aids, scheduling, design and
   organization documentation.  Collaborate with Visual Basic product
   development activity to develop cross-references and context mapped
   application graphics.

-  [Help Desk]  Provide Technical Level 2 Help Desk support for the
   diagnosis, resolution, and close-out of Microsoft Office application
   (Word, Excel, Access, and PowerPoint), workstation, and network
   issues.  Utilize DP Umbrella SQL software application on a Windows NT
   platform to accomplish call screening, development of client profiles,
   remote site field engineering routing, and e-mail communication.

-  [Training Solutions]  Plan, organize, develop and conduct training and
   workshops for client system management, system operators, system
   programmers, and system maintenance personnel.  Generate training
   plans, course curricula, lesson guides, presentation transparencies,
   support documentation, and training examination criteria.

-  [Internet and the World Wide Web]  Design and program Web home pages
   employing HTML 2.0/3.0 coding language and use of CGI scripts.
   Implement and manage web sites used for documentation management,
   Intranet communication, marketing, and associated electronic commerce.
   Generate and integrate home page technical advertising content.
   Generate interactive HTML scripting and graphics. Maintain web server
   script presence, integrity, and remote operation.  Administer global
   e-mail, FTP, and Telnet sessions.

6/94 to 12/95
KETRON Division of Bionetics
Help Desk, Technical Writing, Software Engineer

-  Provided advanced multi-level Help Desk support for the
   identification and resolution of end-user workstations and
   data servers.  Supported technical environment which reflected
   a telecommunication network consisting of Novell Netware client
   server hosts and associated user and peripheral nodes.

-  Identified differences in observed problems relative to
   hardware breakdowns versus software performance and assessed
   presence of installation corruption, host hardware/software
   incompatibilities, and inadequate operator training and
   preparation.

-  Performed platform and network diagnosis, troubleshooting,
   problem tracing, application re-installation, and platform
   reconfiguration.  Maintained closed-loop problem database to
   track problem frequency, resolution methods, and adequacy of
   remediation.

-  Site Internet administrator and focal point for the generation
   and integration home page content, hypertext links and
   graphics, and maintenance of web server script presence,
   integrity, and remote operation.  Administered e-mail, FTP,
   and Telnet sessions.

-  Responsible for preparation and editing of technical documents
   and establishment of on-line help.  Planned, scheduled,
   researched, formatted, and edited engineering technical
   discipline reports, memoranda, marketing brochures, and
   technical and cost proposals.

-  Created user guides, operator manuals, and flowcharts.
   Contributed to company newsletter.  Generated operator and
   maintenance manuals for large-scale systems which incorporated
   CAD/CAM technical illustrations and drawings.

-  Provided editorial support of engineering, manufacturing, and
   software distribution documentation assessing grammatical
   structure, style content, and technical consistency.


11/92 to 6/94
IMS America, The Vanguard Group, CONRAIL, Nutri/System L.P.
Self-Employed, Software Engineer

-  [Systems Analyst]  Supervised software development process,
   conversion of programs, on-line performance monitoring,
   hardware trouble-shooting and debugging, and maintenance on
   IBM LAN Server, OS/2, Microsoft LAN Manager, Windows NT, and
   Macintosh clients.  Directed software replacement, and data
   security and integrity.

-  [Office Automation]  Performed Help-Desk and communications
   operational support of client server networks.  Supported
   problem resolution, data backup and disaster recovery,
   servicing of desktop workstations, hardware and software
   installation, ethernet and fiber-optic (FDDI) networks and
   token-ring hubs.  Provided end-user support and training for
   MS-DOS, Lotus Smartsuite, OfficePerfect, Windows'95, and
   Macintosh software.

   Identified and resolved problems in a technical environment
   which reflected a network consisting of Microsoft LAN Manager
   and NT client server hosts and associated OS/2 and MS-DOS user
   and peripheral nodes.  Performed platform troubleshooting and
   problem tracing.  Supported closed-loop problem database to
   track problem frequency, resolution methods, and adequacy of
   remediation.

-  [Application Development]  Active participant in definition of
   the technical environment and structure appropriate for
   application development.  Responsible for documentation of
   technical design and architecture of planned systems.
   Developed standards, procedures, tools, and measures to insure
   that enterprise platforms had stability and reliability.

-  [Technical Writing]  Responsible for format and generation of
   technically accurate internal/client system standards, manuals,
   guides, functional flow diagrams, network configuration and
   topology diagrams, and on-line documentation.

   Principal author of project documentation supporting software
   application development and workstation-to-mainframe wide area
   networks.  Researched, formatted, and edited technical documents
   assuring grammatical structure, style content, and technical
   consistency.

-  [LAN Administration]  Coordinated, installed, and administered
   multi-platform token-ring client server networks utilizing
   DOS, OS/2, IBM LAN Server, and Microsoft LAN Manager.

-  [Desktop Publishing]  Developed hypertext documents and
   diagrammatic fault-trees and lists of response actions
   supportive of LAN/WAN problem resolution, and diagnosis of
   VTAM, SNA, EtherNet, DECnet network path elements, CICS and
   DB2 mainframe applications on an IBM host in an MVS
   environment.


1984 to 11/92
General Electric Astro-Space Division
Software Engineer and Network Specialist

-  [Operations Support]  Performed and coordinated Help-Desk
   telephone support and interface with network end-users
   providing technical assistance, hardware and software problem
   resolution, and support of PC-to-mainframe communications.
   Developed standards and procedures for the resolution of user
   complaints and inquiries.  Developed structure and
   implementation of problem tracking system.

-  [Systems Analysis]  Supported client/server and workstation
   software development process, performance analysis, hardware
   trouble-shooting and debugging, and enhancement of
   workstations to minimize maintenance requirements and maximize
   software fault tolerance.  Supported checkout and acceptance
   of workstation hardware and software. Responsible for
   software/hardware integration, configuration management plans,
   software tuning and desktop and client/server platform
   maintenance.

-  [LAN Administration]  Administered network assembly,
   installation, reconfiguration, and maintenance of
   client/server hardware and MS-DOS, OS/2, and Windows operating
   systems . Maintained network assets and new system releases.
   Facilitated equipment replacement.  Administered EtherNet
   based, TCP/IP protocol, local-area network (LAN) composed of
   over 300 nodes. Responsible for operation and maintenance of
   IBM, Macintosh, and SUN desktop computers.

-  [Training Programs]  Prepared training development programs
   focused on computer workstation hardware and peripherals, DOS
   software applications, Windows applications, E-Mail,
   file-sharing, file transfer, and time-management.  Developed
   training curriculum program lesson material composed of
   self-teaching programmed-learning manuals and booklets.
   Conducted classroom presentations.

-  [Software Integration]  Developed planning and equipment
   provisioning for hardware and software needs.  Reviewed and
   recommended new equipment and software for workstations.
   Monitored software operation budget and introduced
   computerized reporting system which pinpointed variances and
   trends.


4/77 to 4/84
KETRON, Inc., Systems Engineering Division
Software Engineer, Product Evaluator, and Trainer

-  [Product Demonstration]  Responsible for integrity of outgoing
   products via demonstrations, data analyses, and the software
   development activity module integration and validation
   testing. Responsible for functional evaluation,
   software/hardware integration, and configuration management.

-  [Quality Assurance]  Provided software quality assurance support
   to functional evaluation of computer program configuration
   items, integration testing, and maintainability of computer
   program components and modular software elements.

-  [Software Maintainability]  Provided software maintainability of
   computer program components and modular software elements.
   Responsible for independent verification and validation of
   outgoing products via demonstrations and data analyses.

-  [Training Programs]  Prepared formal end-user training
   development programs, lesson plans and manuals including
   classroom presentation on personal computer utilization.

-  [Desktop Publishing] Organized technical editing and production
   of documentation using multi-platform desktop publisher and
   word processing applications.


Professional   American Society of Quality Control (ASQC),
Societies:     Institute of Electrical and Electronic Engineers
               (IEEE), Institute of Environmental Sciences (IES),
               American Marketing Association (AMA).

Languages:     FORTRAN, PASCAL, Microsoft QuickBasic, BASIC,
               FOCUS, ISPF, and HTML 2.0/3.0.


Computer Skills Inventory
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Computer Platforms:     IBM & compatibles, Macintosh, SUN
                        workstations

Data Communication:     LAN bridges, network interface cards,
                        token-ring adapters, IBM (EtherNet), and
                        Macintosh (AppleShare)

LAN Operating Systems:  Microsoft LAN Manager, Microsoft NT, IBM
                        LAN Server, Apple Local Talk

Network Protocols:      DECnet, OSI, TCP/IP, NetBIOS, SNA, X.25

Network Topologies:     EtherNet, Localtalk, Token Ring

Operating Systems:      DOS, OS/2, Macintosh

Peripherals:            Printers, Power Conditioners, Floppy Disk
                        Drives and Systems, Removable Mass
                        Storage, Display Terminals, Modems,
                        Electronic Imaging (OCR)


Software Application Knowledge
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ABC Flow Chart       Interleaf Publisher         Paradox
Adobe Illustrator    Lotus cc:Mail               PROFS
ALL-In-1             Lotus 1-2-3                 Q&A
Ami Pro              Lotus SmartSuite            Quattro Pro
ARTEMIS/MAX          MathCAD                     R:Base
AutoCAD              Microsoft Access            Relay Gold
Canvas               Microsoft Excel             Robo Help
CorelDRAW            Microsoft Mail              Visual Basic
Crosstalk            Microsoft Office            WordPerfect
Dbase                Microsoft PowerPoint        WordPerfect for Windows
Doc-To-Help          Microsoft Project           Windows 3.x
DP Umbrella SQL      Microsoft QuickBasic        Windows'95
Harvard Graphics     Microsoft Word-for-Windows  WordPerfect Office
Help Breeze          Pagemaker



From [e-mail] Fri Sep 27 22:23:27 1996
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From: [e-mail]
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test msg


From [e-mail] Fri Sep 27 22:23:28 1996
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The following message is a test. I repeat this is only a test. If this
wre an actual message it would have some content.


From [e-mail] Fri Sep 27 22:23:29 1996
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SO. CAL 146.10 PL 131.6 STOP BY AND SAY HI.


From [e-mail] Fri Sep 27 22:23:29 1996
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Subject: Re: There be BUGS here!!
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The correct site for the CIA hack is:

                     http://www.geo-mall.com/cia

Regards,
LGS



From [e-mail] Fri Sep 27 22:23:30 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Roland Stiner)
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J>has anyone traveled domestically (US) or Internationally with electronic
 >equipement and experienced any security delays related to the toys you
 >were traveling with.

I take my ham gear along where ever I go.  Usually, they'll always ask
you to open the bag and turn everything on.  HF gear excluded.  The
Japanese and Filipinos are toughest, Americans the easiest.

J>I usually travel with a shortwave radio (SONY-2010), I also take along a
 >hand held scanner (either Regency HX-1000 or AOR-1000) to listen to the
 >action in the air and around where I'm going.

I listen to the walk man on the plane.

 >anyh traces of nitrates (explosives) I did have aproblem with the scanner
 >that I had in a pouch on my belt...Airport security (Police) wanted to
 >know what i was doing with the scanner. I showed them my frequency
 >lists..all were for Police, fire, and aviation frequencies in either
 >Arizona or Southern California.....Finally, I was able to get the
 >scannerhome by letting the plane's captian agree to carry it in a special
 >pouch.

That's the toughest I've ever heard.  You should not have had the
scanner on your belt.  You're attracting too much attention and they're
right at getting suspicious.   Keep a low profile and you'll get there
faster.
---
   OLX 1.53   -------------->    73, de NK2U    <----------------

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From [e-mail] Fri Sep 27 22:23:31 1996
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From: [e-mail] (John Moran)
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has anyone traveled domestically (US) or Internationally with electronic
equipement and experienced any security delays related to the toys you
were traveling with.

I usually travel with a shortwave radio (SONY-2010), I also take along a
hand held scanner (either Regency HX-1000 or AOR-1000) to listen to the
action in the air and around where I'm going.

I have been able to give everyone a heads up on glight delays based on
what I was hearing on my scanner..either weather, mechanical, or ATC flow
control delays.

also, when I am driving, the scanner gives me real-time road information.
If I hear a police or fire dispatch or a chase on the scanner, I know to
plan for an altenate route. Beside police and fire, I can scan all the
radio traffic reports they commonly use frequencies in the 450-451mhz area
Airline operations frequencies are usually in the 128.0-132.0 mhz(AM) and
460.6-461 mhz (NFM) area. At some airports, a trunked 800mhz system
operated by ARINC may also be in use.

In Germany, I did have a brief delay..they wanted to know how the
SONY-2010 worked. I explained...they also used a sniffer to check for
anyh traces of nitrates (explosives) I did have aproblem with the scanner
that I had in a pouch on my belt...Airport security (Police) wanted to
know what i was doing with the scanner. I showed them my frequency
lists..all were for Police, fire, and aviation frequencies in either
Arizona or Southern California.....Finally, I was able to get the
scannerhome by letting the plane's captian agree to carry it in a special
pouch.

JOHN


From [e-mail] Fri Sep 27 22:23:32 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Terry Keyowski)
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In article <523g89$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (John Moran)
says:
>
>has anyone traveled domestically (US) or Internationally with electronic
>In Germany, I did have a brief delay..they wanted to know how the
>SONY-2010 worked. I explained...they also used a sniffer to check for
>anyh traces of nitrates (explosives) I did have aproblem with the scanner
>that I had in a pouch on my belt...Airport security (Police) wanted to
>know what i was doing with the scanner. I showed them my frequency
>lists..all were for Police, fire, and aviation frequencies in either
>Arizona or Southern California.....Finally, I was able to get the
>scannerhome by letting the plane's captian agree to carry it in a special
>pouch.

I've been through security in Chicago and  Minneapolis many times and not once
 did I have a
problem with my toys.  Once I had an alarm clock in my carry-on and they wante
d to look at
it, but no big deal.  However, at airports here in Canada, I've almost had to
be strip-searched
each time I bring  a toy through security.  Had to show the shortwave radio wo
rked, had
to dial up ATIS on the scanner, had to make a cellular phone call, play a tape
, all to the amusement
of passing passengers!  And this is at a very small airport.  Grrrr.  But not
as serious as
your encounter in Germany.


From [e-mail] Fri Sep 27 22:23:33 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Jim Lowman)
Subject: Re: Travel with toys (electronics)
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John Moran ([e-mail]) wrote:
: has anyone traveled domestically (US) or Internationally with electronic
: equipement and experienced any security delays related to the toys you
: were traveling with.

Last month I traveled to Colorado Springs and St. Petersburg with my 2m and
440 HTs.  No problem going out of Ontario or LAX, and the security guy asked
me to show that they worked as I left Florida.

Leaving LAX, I did have to open my suitcase when they spotted the coiled
cord for my shaver on the x-ray machine.  Not a word about the HTs.  :-)

A lot of the hams on the QRP-L mailing list take their small HF gear on
trips, and I haven't heard any real horror stories.

73 de Jim - KF6CR



From [e-mail] Fri Sep 27 22:23:34 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Steve Kropla)
Newsgroups: rec.travel.air,alt.radio.scanner,rec.radio.scanner,rec.radio.shortwave,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.aviation.piloting
Subject: Re: Travel with toys (electronics)
Date: Mon, 23 Sep 1996 13:30:16 GMT
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[e-mail] (John Moran) wrote:

>has anyone traveled domestically (US) or Internationally with electronic
>equipement and experienced any security delays related to the toys you
>were traveling with.

I can't say I've undergone any extensive delays.  Anymore, most places
do want me to fire up my laptop and show that it can do something.

Leaving Aberdeen, Scotland a couple of weeks ago I was subjected to
the most intensive scrutiny I've ever seen.  Though quite cordial, the
security officer asked me to light up every little item in my
briefcase:  pocket calculator, battery-operated shaver, mini-maglight,
and of course the computer.  The he found my "hushers" (Noisebuster
head cancelling headsets.)  He asked how those worked and I explained
that if we wanted me to show him he would need to put them on.  He
did, and I fired them up.  When they went into operation, he responded
"Brilliant!" and sent me on my way.


___________________________________________________________
Steve Kropla
Kingwood, Texas USA
[e-mail]
Help for World Travelers: http://www.cris.com/~kropla/


From [e-mail] Fri Sep 27 22:23:35 1996
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From: [e-mail] (James Garner)
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Subject: Re: Travel with toys (electronics)
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Jim Wolper ([e-mail]) wrote:

: DO NOT listen to your scanner in flight.  A recent report documented
: 33 cases of consumer electronics interfering with flight or navigation
: instruments; you can read about it in recent issues of IEEE Spectrum
: and Aviation Week.

        Correct.

        Even if you don't care about a plane crashing, or the slight
chance (no matter how slight) of interference, remember that YOU ARE ON
THAT PLANE, and wouldn't you feel really silly knowing that you are
responsible for a crash (even for a millisecond, just before impact)?



From [e-mail] Fri Sep 27 22:23:36 1996
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From: RF BURNS <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: Travel with toys (electronics)
Date: 24 Sep 1996 00:19:46 GMT
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OK here my great but not exciting story
I had a camera bag padded
took the divisons out put mobile scanner on bottom of bag
put division padding on top of the scanner creating false bottom
(this was a small bag 8inX12in) it was a bearcat 760xlt
they looked at my Icom 2sra and camera passed it on I was dumbfounded
and walked past.

Key thing dont lettem send it through the Xray tell them its a camera

this was a Newark NJ

Doug




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From: Jean-Francois Mezei <[e-mail]>
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Sometimes I wonder if those security agents stop to examine your
electronic toys are just curious and want to see what you've got :-)

I once had one start to ask me what kind of laptop he should buy :-)


From [e-mail] Fri Sep 27 22:23:37 1996
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From: "Peter Gottlieb" <[e-mail]>
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A few times I traveled on business (construction) and my associates and I
carried portables.  Security just looked at them (remember that they had to
manually carry them around the metal detector gate) and didn't even ask,
ever, not even once, for us to demonstrate their functionality.

I would have certainly felt better if they at least told us to make sure to
not
use them on the plane!

RF BURNS <[e-mail]> wrote in article
<5279f2$[e-mail]>...
> OK here my great but not exciting story
> I had a camera bag padded
> took the divisons out put mobile scanner on bottom of bag
> put division padding on top of the scanner creating false bottom
> (this was a small bag 8inX12in) it was a bearcat 760xlt
> they looked at my Icom 2sra and camera passed it on I was dumbfounded
> and walked past.
>
> Key thing dont lettem send it through the Xray tell them its a camera
>
> this was a Newark NJ
>
> Doug
>
>
>


From [e-mail] Fri Sep 27 22:23:41 1996
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From: [e-mail] (John Wilkerson)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Trunked systems Explained. Was: Re: Trunked Systems:  Can someone
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Date: 19 Sep 96 21:46:37 +0100 GMT
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Message sender : [e-mail]


Orca ([e-mail]) wrote:
: Post it.  We'd all like to know... :)

: zommbee ([e-mail]) wrote:

: : Could some one please explain, in a reasonably technical way, what
: : a 'trunked system' is?  I have read snippets of partially correct
: : and wildly incorrect explanations, and I am still confused.  I am
: : an electronics firm service manager, and a Ham operator, so please
: : don't be afraid to give as fully technical response as needed to make
: : the point.  I want to be accurate if I pass the info on to others.

: : email or post - whichever suits you.

Well.  On a conventional system, each "channel" has a specific
frequency.  Trunked systems do not.

On a trunked system, say, for purposes of explanation, you have say 10
frequencies.  NONE of these frequencies is set to a specific channel, but
shared among all "channels".

A unit, wishing to use the system, keys his microphone.  The radio grabs
the _first available frequency_.  All other units turned to this
"channel" automatically tune to this frequency.  When the unit unkeys his
mic., the radio begins scanning the 10 frequencies in the group.  When a
response is transmitted, the radio again finds the first available
frequency and again, all radios switched to that "channel" tune to that
frequency.  This frequency may or may not be the same one used before.
This goes on and on...

To the user of the system, her is unaware of all this.  The conversation
continues just as with a conventional system.  The radio control unit has
a channel selector, the whole nine yards.  All the scanning and frequency
switching is handled "invisibly" to the user.  Complex computer equipment
is used to keep the system going.

To a scanner user, however, things can get hairy.  If you have your
scanner tuned to s specific frequency, you will hear part of one
conversation, then part of another, then, another still.  A scanner does
not have the capability to find the correct frequency in order to capture
all the conversation in one piece.

Now to get more techincal.  Technically there are _some_ frequencies that
_are_ dedicated to specific use.  One is the control channel.  This
frequency all radios monitor.  This frequency is where radios are told
what frequency to turn to, and other information.

Some frequencues may be set aside for uses such as telephone connections,
data communications for in-car computer terminals (MDTs), and other uses
outside the normal talkgroup.

I have found the best way to monitor trunked comms is to simply enter in
all the _mobile_ frequencies in and monitor them.  You will not hear the
dispatcher, or units more than a couple miles away, BUT you will hear all
the traffic occurring close to your location.  Once a user unkeys, my
scanner begins scanning, and grabs the frequency the conversation is
continuing on.  It is important to have your delay turned OFF.

Hope this helps.



--
     John L. Wilkerson Jr.        [e-mail]





From [e-mail] Fri Sep 27 22:23:42 1996
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From: Richard Kroth <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: TV Audio QUESTION...
Date: Mon, 23 Sep 1996 09:57:37 -0700
Organization: The College of New Jersey
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USA TELEVISION
FREQUENCIES
P= Picture Carrier freq.
A=Audio Carrier freq.
========================
CH  C   FREQUENCY, mHz
----------------------
2       P       55.250
        A       59.750
3       P       61.250
        A       65.750
4       P       67.250
        A       71.750
5       P       77.250
        A       81.750
6       P       83.250
        A       87.750
7       P       175.250
        A       179.750
8       P       181.250
        A       185.750
9       P       187.250
        A       191.750
10      P       193.250
        A       197.750
11      P       199.250
        A       203.750
12      P       205.250
        A       209.750
13      P       211.250
        A       215.750

Copied from the Theater Sound Mailing List Home page,
maintained by JBay. [e-mail]


Good Luck,

Rich


Jay Vise wrote:
>
> Question(s):
>
>     What's the freqs for audio from channels 2-13 of local TV stations? Can
> you generally get these freqs on typical scanners?
>
> Jay

--

******************************************************************
                                 Richard A. Kroth
                    The College of New Jersey - Music Department
                         Technical Director, Audio Engineer
                         [e-mail]  -  [e-mail]
                               Voice - [phone]


From [e-mail] Fri Sep 27 22:23:43 1996
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From: [e-mail] (F. Barry Mulligan)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: TV Audio QUESTION...
Date: 23 Sep 1996 14:36:10 GMT
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"Jay Vise" <[e-mail]> asked:
> What's the freqs for audio from channels 2-13 of local TV stations?


From the  FAF - Frequently Asked Frequencies
      on  ftp://oak.oakland.edu
      as  /pub/hamradio/docs/misc/scanner.faf


Television                                                  [73.603]

        Ch      Range       Video      Audio

         2     54 -  60     55.250     59.750
         3     60 -  66     61.250     65.750
         4     66 -  72     67.250     71.750
         5     76 -  82     77.250     81.750
         6     82 -  88     83.250     87.750
         7    174 - 180    175.250    179.750
         8    180 - 186    181.250    185.750
         9    186 - 192    187.250    191.750
        10    192 - 198    193.250    197.750
        11    198 - 204    199.250    203.750
        12    204 - 210    205.250    209.750
        13    210 - 216    211.250    215.750
        14    470 - 476    471.250    475.750
        15    476 - 482    477.250    481.750
        ..    ... - ...    .......    .......
        68    794 - 800    795.250    799.750
        69    800 - 806    801.250    805.750

        Note the gaps between chs 4/5, 6/7, and 13/14.
        Freqs in the 470-512 MHz range (Ch 14-20) may be assigned to
    Public Service mobile use in major metro areas.  No transmitters
    are allowed on 608-614 MHz (Ch 37).
        Each TV channel is 6 MHz wide. The video carrier is 1.25 MHz
    above the start of the range. The audio carrier is 0.25 MHz below
    the end of the range. Television audio is wideband FM.
        Some TV stations may be offset +/- 10 kHz.


    Cable TV  (IRC)                                         [76.605]
                                                        [EIA IS-132]
                   Ch         MHz
                 2 - 13     54 - 216     (same as broadcast VHF)
                14 - 22    120 - 174     Mid band     Ch. A-I
                23 - 36    216 - 300     Super band       J-W
                37 - 53    300 - 402     Hyper band       AA-QQ
                54 - 64    402 - 468       "    "
                65 - 94    468 - 648    (Ultra band)
                95 - 99     90 - 120     Low band         A5-A1
               100 -125    648 - 804    (Ultra band)


From [e-mail] Fri Sep 27 22:23:44 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Robert Marshall)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: U.K. Brands Hatch Circuit Frequencies required?
Date: Mon, 23 Sep 1996 21:37:57 GMT
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[e-mail] (Barney the  WiZ) wrote:

>Hi
>Anyone know the frequency of the brands hatch circuit radio Kent  U.K.
>FM somewhere ?
>[e-mail]
>May the force be with you.
>Regards   JohnB

Might be able to find out for you.
Do you know of any UK based scanner newsgroups ?
Rob Marshall
Isle of Man
[e-mail]



From [e-mail] Fri Sep 27 22:23:45 1996
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From: "John F. Masinter" <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner,alt.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Uniden BC9000XLT
Date: Sun, 22 Sep 1996 03:06:39 +0000
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I'm also looking for mods. Particularly for the Uniden Bearcat
"Sports Cat" model SC-150. If any one can direct me to a BBS etc.
where I can download mods it would be very helpful. Thanks.

-John


From [e-mail] Fri Sep 27 22:23:45 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Quick9000)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: US Scanner News
Date: 27 Sep 1996 12:08:03 -0400
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I heard about all that flap with RCMA, I guess it killed USSN as I see
there is no September issue and their Web page hasn't been updated in
months. I guess their own snake bit them.


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From: [e-mail] (Dr Pepper)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner,alt.radio.scanner
Subject: USSS code names
Date: Mon, 23 Sep 1996 15:49:17 GMT
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Here is the list of US Secret Service codes that I have for the White
House. If there are any corrections, I would appreciate an e-mail. No
flames, please.

Bill Clinton                            EAGLE
Hillary                                 EVERGREEN
Chelsea                                 ENERGY
Al Gore                                 SAWHORSE
Tipper Gore                             SKYLARK
Bob Dole                                PATRIOT
Mrs. Dole                               PIONEER
Kemp                                    CHAMPION
Mrs. Kemp                               CORNERSTONE

[e-mail]


Dr Pepper
10 - 2 - 4




From [e-mail] Fri Sep 27 22:23:47 1996
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From: "E. Scott Sykes" <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: USSS code names
Date: Fri, 27 Sep 1996 07:23:44 -0300
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To: Jeff Goldman <[e-mail]>

Jeff Goldman wrote:
>
> If i'm not mistaken the following are also in use:
> Bill Clinton - Fat Ass, Lard Ass, Fat Boy, Draft Dodger
> Hillary Clinton - Bitch (most commonly used), Felon, Whitwater Mama,
> Selective Amnesia
> Al Gore - Tree Hugger, Tobacco Road
> Chelsea Clinton - Broken Home

The preceding post was added to your FBI file. Big brother searches the
Net regularly for comments concerning the 1st family. The car outside
your residence is U.S.S.S. and your phone is bugged. Isn't this a
wonderful free country you live in?


From [e-mail] Fri Sep 27 22:23:48 1996
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From: "Robert H. Eisner" <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: VTECH 910ADL Security?
Date: Fri, 20 Sep 1996 22:03:44 -0400
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Cougercat wrote:
> How about a VTECH 960NDX.  How secure is it's transmission?  Can anybody
> tell me what brands & model numbers have good spread spectrum cordless
> phones?
>
> Thanks
>
> -Jeff

Hi Jeff,

The Radio Shack model ET-904  (catalog number 43-1014) is spread spectrum

Bob


From [e-mail] Fri Sep 27 22:23:51 1996
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From: [e-mail]
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Subject: VTECH 910ADL Security?Which 900mhz phones can you listen to
Date: Tue, 24 Sep 1996 00:30:42 LOCAL
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>Cougercat wrote:
>> How about a VTECH 960NDX.  How secure is it's transmission?  Can anybody
>> tell me what brands & model numbers have good spread spectrum cordless
>> phones?

Okay I was wondering which cordless phones operate on 900mhz without spread
spectrum and also in analog?(in other words easy to listen to)

Please post some brand names and freq's.

Does the analog tropezl use the same 25 channels as the Digital model??
Anyone use the new Digital Spread 900mhz Santo phones yet??

I am in Canada.  (I was please to hear a new 25 channel cordless phone down on

44mhz the other day for the first time!!yeah!)

The best information is disinformation.




From [e-mail] Fri Sep 27 22:23:52 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Dan Morisseau)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: WA State Patrol CANCELS radio regulations
Date: Sun, 22 Sep 1996 19:17:46 PST
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In article [e-mail] (D Stark) writes:

>        I just read an article in "Worldradio" summarizing
>the Washington state radio regulation issue.  It seems
>everyone got all worked up over nothing (but that NEVER
>happens in rec.radio.scanner, does it?).


>        Unfortunately, the proposed regulation was overly
>broad and COULD HAVE BEEN applied to other two-way radio
>devices in automobiles.  ...


     With all due respect, Dave; you've never seen the  bureaucracy of the
people's Democratic Republic of Washington in action! It is no wonder that
everyone who read this stuff feared the worst. The troopers themselves are
great. The civilian adminstrators and politicians her are capable of ANYTHING,

and outlawing radar detectors, scanners and anything as WASPish as ham radio
trasceivers would make perfect sense to those on THIS side of the mountains.
Cell phone users and I am occaisionally one) can be a pain and  hazard, but
the rest of teh stuff is uncomfortably close to what we imagine not a few of
our politicos would regard as good common sense. Remember: no man's life,
liberty or property are safe while Nita Rinehart is in the Legislature!   :)



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to talk and says the wrong things. Talking is something you can't do
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From [e-mail] Fri Sep 27 22:23:53 1996
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From: [e-mail] (D Stark)
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Subject: Re: WA State Patrol CANCELS radio regulations
Date: Mon, 23 Sep 96 20:33:09 GMT
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In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Dan Morisseau) wr
ote:
>In article [e-mail] (D Stark) writes:
>
>>        I just read an article in "Worldradio" summarizing
>>the Washington state radio regulation issue.  It seems
>>everyone got all worked up over nothing (but that NEVER
>>happens in rec.radio.scanner, does it?).
>
>     With all due respect, Dave; you've never seen the  bureaucracy of the
>people's Democratic Republic of Washington in action! It is no wonder that
>everyone who read this stuff feared the worst. The troopers themselves are

        You make a good point and I defer to your experience
with your local officials.  In politics, anything is
possible.




From [e-mail] Fri Sep 27 22:23:54 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Daniel Ayers)
Newsgroups: alt.radio.scanner,rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Wanted: AR8000 technical manual
Date: 23 Sep 1996 04:29:13 GMT
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Hi All,

Can anyone tell me where the AR8000 technical manual can be obtained from?
I wish to write software to interface with the AR8000.

Cheers,
Daniel.

PS: Yes I can work it out for myself using a protocol analyser on the
serial port, but I'd prefer to get a complete and accurate picture by getting
the correct documentation.


From [e-mail] Fri Sep 27 22:23:55 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Lee Woldanski)
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Subject: WANTED: PRO2004 Service Manual
Date: Fri, 20 Sep 1996 05:27:23 GMT
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I am looking for a service manual for a Pro2004. If you have one you
want to part with, email me. If you have one you could photocopy for
me, let me know and I'll send you a SASE.

Thanks,

- Lee Woldanski, Grad Tech., Telecommunications Technologist, VE7FET
- Email: [e-mail]
- Secretary, B.C.F.M.C.A., Operating 6 repeaters at 3500 feet:
  VE7RPT 146.940,224.300,443.525,1291.940,VE7RAG 147.020,VE7LAN 145.070
- Employer: BC Tel Systems Support, Burnaby, BC, CANADA


From [e-mail] Fri Sep 27 22:23:56 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Michael C Tiernan)
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Tom Sledge  <[e-mail]> wrote:
 > This guy is a p**** and a ripoff...
 > [e-mail] (Watch out for this guy)
        You mean someone who uses the name of James West's nemisis is a
        dishonest person?  Nawwwww....
--
        << MCT >>                         [e-mail]
        Michael C Tiernan.                WWW = http://world.std.com/~mtiernan
        Is God a performance artist?      GEnie: M.Tiernan


From [e-mail] Fri Sep 27 22:23:57 1996
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From: [e-mail] (D Stark)
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Date: Sun, 22 Sep 96 16:53:09 GMT
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In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] wrote:
>Hello.  I have seen about two or three good web sites with scanning
>info. One is simply called "scanning reference."  Does anyone have any
>others.  Any sites would be helpful.  A scanning meta site would be
>great.  Thanks.

        Try the NF2G Scannist Pages.  Primary coverage is of
the upstate New York and lower Ontario Province area, but I
have lots of Internet links also.

        http://www.frontiernet.net/~dstark/

73 de Dave, NF2G


From [e-mail] Fri Sep 27 22:23:58 1996
From: [e-mail] (Peek)
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On Sun, 22 Sep 96 16:53:09 GMT, [e-mail] (D Stark)
wrote:

>In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] wrote:
>>Hello.  I have seen about two or three good web sites with scanning
>>info. One is simply called "scanning reference."  Does anyone have any
>>others.  Any sites would be helpful.  A scanning meta site would be
>>great.  Thanks.
>
>        Try the NF2G Scannist Pages.  Primary coverage is of
>the upstate New York and lower Ontario Province area, but I
>have lots of Internet links also.
>
>        http://www.frontiernet.net/~dstark/
>
>73 de Dave, NF2G

Also try
http://homepage.dave-world.net/~woody99/




From [e-mail] Fri Sep 27 22:23:59 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Jim Fordyce)
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Subject: Re: Web Sites
Date: 25 Sep 1996 00:00:24 GMT
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In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] says...
>
>Hello.  I have seen about two or three good web sites with scanning
>info. One is simply called "scanning reference."  Does anyone have any
>others.  Any sites would be helpful.  A scanning meta site would be
>great.  Thanks.

Check out http://www.li.net/~j4dice/scanli.html.  Lots of freq. lists for the
NE, general freqs. & scanning info., a huge list of scanning-related links,
etc.

Jim



From [e-mail] Fri Sep 27 22:23:59 1996
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From: [e-mail] (George F.)
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Subject: What the big PRO-2006 Deal?
Date: 21 Sep 1996 03:27:47 GMT
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I see someone is all excited about PRO-2006 Scanners.  I own a PRO-2006 and
don't see anything special with it, except the ability to listen to Cell
Calls.  Other than that, it is an OverRated scanner.  Unless there is a mod
to increase the speed.  Don't get me wrong, I like the 2006, but I'd much
rather have one of the new 1000 channel Radio Shed scanners 1)for more
channel storage, 2)Much Faster Speed.   If Cellular is what you're into, you
can even buy a new CPU chip to replace the stock one in the new R/S scanners
that will allow full coverage.

I just don't know what the 2006 hype is all about, I got one, but would trade
for a 2035 any day.

George

PRO-60, PRO-2006, Discone
Icom R71A, Kenwood TS-520, Longwires



From [e-mail] Fri Sep 27 22:24:03 1996
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Subject: Re: What the big PRO-2006 Deal?
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>>>Don't get me wrong, I like the 2006, but I'd much rather have one
>>> of the new 1000 channel Radio Shed scanners 1)for more channel storage,
>>

George,

I don't want to get involved in the on-going debate between you and
Bill, I'd just like to add my two cents...

The 2006 (and 2004) , at the time of release were the state of the
art.  Bang for the buck was the best there had ever been, especially
if you took into consideration the mods that could be done.  As time
went on, it also became clear that this would be the last versatile
radio to be cell-restorable.

Most folks do, in fact, listen primarily to Public Service, where
there is so much activety that speed becomes mute.  Your interests are
slightly different, therefore speed is an issue.  But again, at time
of release, the 2006 WAS fast.

Just as in computers, technology moves forward, and that is beneficial
for someone like you that has different wants.  For myself, I'm so
happy I got my 2006 (last one to be had in 3 counties), I could just
sh**.  I'll never give it up, and will gladly get another if the right
opportunity comes along.  I also archive every bit of info on mods,
etc. I can find, as this is arguably the best-supported radio OF ANY
TYPE ever made.  The same cannot be said for the current radios you
are interested in.



Mark

The truth as I perceive it to be.
Your perception will be different.




From [e-mail] Fri Sep 27 22:24:04 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Mark L9)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Which one R.S. 2004,5 or 6
Date: 19 Sep 1996 04:03:16 -0400
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If you can get ahold of a 2004 in good condition, GET IT.  It was the last
RS scanner (that I'm aware of) to have a metal case.  This allowed for
much better shielding from extranneous sources of interference.  The only
thing I didn't like about it was the membrane-type keypad.  Much prefer to
have BUTTONS.


From [e-mail] Fri Sep 27 22:24:05 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Michael Schuster)
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Subject: Re: WS-1000 For Sale or TRADE
Date: 21 Sep 1996 07:26:11 -0400
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In article <51spo2$[e-mail]>,
PKHARTLEY <[e-mail]> wrote:
>In article <[e-mail]>, SWW <[e-mail]> writes:
>
>>Worlds smallest super wide range scanner for sale or trade.  Much better
>>than the ircom r-1.
>>
>>
>
>I keep hearing this comment (WS-1000 is better than R1), but looking at
>the specs for the WS-1000, it seems to lack multiple search ranges (the R1
>has 10).

It has them. But they're odd to program (the limits are programmed in
memory locations 400-401, 402-403, etc. And you must set the modulation
and freq step manually outside of Europe.

>The R1 also seems to have a more convenient keypad (normal
>layout, not a two column layout)

agreed

>and a more rugged case (half of the R1's
>is metal). It seems to be smaller, but better? I'm not convinced of that
>yet!

The Welz is made of heavy gauge plastic and has a solid feel. Wouldn't
worry about durability.



--
Mike Schuster       |        [e-mail] | [e-mail]
------------------- |        [e-mail]|


From [e-mail] Fri Sep 27 22:24:06 1996
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Anyone have a Working Regency HX-1500 for sale, or want to buy a desktop
charger for one ?



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I need  to buy 250 vcII decoders,
I pay $ 35 for a 010,018
      $ 20 for a 032
      $ 10 for a "dead" vcII
      $ 40 for a "dead" vcII plus/RS
If You have one or more, let me know...
Thanks...


From [e-mail] Fri Sep 27 22:24:07 1996
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From: "Paul S. Castellani Jr" <[e-mail]>
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Subject: XPLORER for Trade or sale.
Date: Fri, 27 Sep 1996 09:35:42 -0700
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I have an Optoelectronics Xplorer that is in absolutely new condition.
It has all boxes manuals etc. I would like $750 or an Opto Scout Plus
$400 for it.
If you are interested, please leave me E-Mail at [e-mail]


From [e-mail] Fri Sep 27 22:24:08 1996
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From: [e-mail]
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Subject: Yupiteru 7k1 + Discone problems
Date: Fri, 20 Sep 96 22:41:00
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I have bought a "Sky Scan DX" discone antenna together
with 9 meters of RG-213/U-BX coaxial cable, the BNC plug
was soldered to it by the radio shop guy, both parts
are for 50 Ohms. If I connect it to my Yupiteru MVT-7100
handheld scanner, the signals are just as strong or even a
bit weaker than with the cheap telescopic antenna which
came with the scanner. I went back to the shop and tried
out my cable and other cables together with some other
discones, always the same result. What is wrong?? I was
really looking forward to being able to receive a lot more,
and now this.. Please provide some input..


From [e-mail] Fri Sep 27 22:24:11 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Per H. Nielsen)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Yupiteru 7k1 + Discone problems
Date: 21 Sep 1996 13:05:38 GMT
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[e-mail] writes:

>I have bought a "Sky Scan DX" discone antenna together
>with 9 meters of RG-213/U-BX coaxial cable, the BNC plug
>was soldered to it by the radio shop guy, both parts
>are for 50 Ohms. If I connect it to my Yupiteru MVT-7100
>handheld scanner, the signals are just as strong or even a
>bit weaker than with the cheap telescopic antenna which
>came with the scanner. I went back to the shop and tried
>out my cable and other cables together with some other
>discones, always the same result. What is wrong?? I was
>really looking forward to being able to receive a lot more,
>and now this.. Please provide some input..

Most likely your scanner gets overloaded when you use the
external antenna. I have not played with Yupiterus myself,
but they are known to be very sensitive radios which unfortunately
also means sensitive to overloading and intermod.
If you are living near a FM transmitter a FM trap filter may
improve reception.
However certain handheld scanners are really not made for
use with effective outdoor antennas in RF dense areas.
If you know someone with a more RF robust scanner such as BC-3000XLT
you might borrow this and test in on your antenna.


--
Per H. Nielsen                                 Telephone:  Int [phone]
Software Division                              Fax:        Int [phone]
Dansk Data Elektronik A/S, Herlev, Denmark     E-mail:     [e-mail]


From [e-mail] Fri Sep 27 22:24:15 1996
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From: charlie <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Yupiteru 7k1 + Discone problems
Date: Sun, 22 Sep 1996 13:12:37 -0400
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[e-mail] wrote:
>
> I have bought a "Sky Scan DX" discone antenna <snip>
> What is wrong?? I was really looking forward to being able to receive
>a lot more, and now this.. Please provide some input..

Don't forget that the discone is a "zero gain" antenna its gain rating
will be 0 dbi or -3 dbd.  If yours is like most of the VHF/UHF discones
(I have a Diamond), it covers approximately 25 MHZ to 2 GHZ, but with no
gain at all.  That means that a dipole will have significantly more gain
(3 db) at its resonant frequency than a discone.

Discones have two principle advantages, in my opinion.  First, they
exhibit a relatively flat gain (-3 dbd) across their entire frequency
range.  That means that you'll not need to install several antennas to
receive across a wide range of frequencies.

Second, they have friendly physical characteristics.  It is relatively
easy to install a discone in a location where it has maximum height -
like the top of my tower.  Not a lot of weight or windload, so it's
pretty easy to move around.  They're also pretty rugged when it comes to
ice/wind survival.

Of course, the big trade-off is gain.  Altitude can offset some loss of
gain, but ultimately, the discone is inferior to any true resonant
antenna.  That's where you'll have to make your decision.

Regards,
Charlie


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From: Scott Cochran <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Yupiteru 7k1 + Discone problems
Date: Sun, 22 Sep 1996 09:00:02 -0600
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[e-mail] wrote:
>
> I have bought a "Sky Scan DX" discone antenna together
> with 9 meters of RG-213/U-BX coaxial cable, the BNC plug
> was soldered to it by the radio shop guy, both parts
> are for 50 Ohms. If I connect it to my Yupiteru MVT-7100
> handheld scanner, the signals are just as strong or even a
> bit weaker than with the cheap telescopic antenna which
> came with the scanner. I went back to the shop and tried
> out my cable and other cables together with some other
> discones, always the same result. What is wrong?? I was
> really looking forward to being able to receive a lot more,
> and now this.. Please provide some input..
Here is my opinion to your question, I also have a discone (Radio Shack)
hooked up to "plenty" of RG-8 coax. Its mounted about 35ft in the air
outside of the house. I pick up plenty of signals from the mountains all
the way south & along the front range. BUT, it also depends ALOT on
conditions (propagation). I too was always looking for the distant
signal. You can't always get what u want, but sometimes it pays off.
Mount that sucker outside(you didn't mention if yours was) if the local
codes allow you to. It takes some time & some work on the listeners
part. Have fun!


From [e-mail] Thu Oct 03 14:35:39 1996
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From: "B.G.FRANCICA" <[e-mail]>
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Subject: radio finland.
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I'am trying to find some of Finland's commercial radio stations
frequencies on short wave.
Any frequency can be e-mailed at: [e-mail]
Thanks for reading this message, anticipated thanks and regards.

Ben.


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In article <[e-mail]>,
Mark S. Conway <[e-mail]> wrote:
>Good answer, you must be a cable tv man.
>You are absolutely correct. . .   Textbook answer.

Hell No!  I hate cable.  I declared my independence from cable
many years ago... and my independence from the tube more recently.  ;-)



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From: [e-mail] (Bill Cheek)
Newsgroups: alt.radio.scanner,rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Scanners!!! Tell them what you want!
Date: Wed, 25 Sep 1996 07:07:26 GMT
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"E. Scott Sykes" <[e-mail]> wrote:


>Reverse engineering. Look at HOKA Code3 and what it can decode,
>eventually all proprietary protocols just become protocols.

That isn't exactly true.  Name one old-time protocol that was
proprietary.  Copyrights are never handed over to the public domain by
virtue of theft.  You may be thinking of trademark issues, which
certainly is a different story altogether.

Transmission protocols are either like CW, RTTY, FAX, etc, and were
never proprietary, or they're like Z-modem and the many flavors of FSK
which have always been protected by law and even more so now, thanks
to the ECPA of 1986.

Bill Cheek
Scannist Extraordinaire



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From: [e-mail] (Bill Cheek)
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"Jay Vise" <[e-mail]> wrote:

>((My apologies for this redundancy:))
>
>>Let's don't play word games.
>
>    To be correct, that should be, "Let's not play word games."
>          Please, let's not.

Excuse yourself, but in the course of conversational dialog, the
"rules" of grammer are easily and legitimately bent.....especially
when using the vernacular.  As a professional writer, I will not only
bend those rules from time to time, but I will sometimes amend them or
even create new ones.  Those who don't like it are, of course, free to
lump it.

>>>>>>>If you are inferring that my work is my Life....well, that's got a
>      Actually, he's "implying" that your work is your life.  YOU infer it.
> Understand the diff? We learned  this in the 10th grade in LOUISIANA, for
>cripe's sake; and in public school, at that.

You 'infer' while I deduce......  Understand THAT?

>>>As for titles, sometimes I am CEO. Sometimes CIO.  Sometimes CFO.
>Sometimes administrator.  Sometimes assembler.  Sometimes designer.
>Sometimes drafter.  Sometimes engineer.  Sometimes floor scrubber and
>bottle washer.  Titles are for those who don't know what they are supposed
>to be doing.

>   Every one of the aforementioned "titles" should have been seperated by a
>hyphen or, in the best of worlds, a comma.   EXAMPLES OF CORRECT USAGE:
>"Sometimes-engineer.  Sometimes-floor-scrubber-and-bottle-washer."

Nope.  Maybe you would do that.  I would not.  Unless I were writing a
book or some form of official manuscript, in which case I would almost
certainly employ a different set of rules.  This, however, is a
conversational forum ......... so see my first paragraph above.

>      Ordinarily, this type of illiterate crap simply washes over me on the
>web.  However, this pseudo-intellectual claims to have engineering degrees
>across the board, so I have to call his hand.  He appears to be a bit
>sloppy in his English and grammar, and I'd like him to respond to this
>issue.

I did.  Reread all the above.  So "call my hand some more", if you
feel so inclined.  Brass tacks facts are that there are many levels of
language "rules" now.  Different situations call for different
applications of those "rules", and it is perfectly acceptable to be
loose and comfortable in conversation, which is exactly what we have
in this fine forum.

Refer to the grammar chackers that come with all the better word
processors and desktop publishing programs now.  They all have three
or more levels of "rules" to apply, depending.........

Now would you like to talk scanners and scanning, perchance or
happenstance?  Methinks you're not all that interested.........

Bill Cheek
Scannist Extraordinaire
(Publisher/Editor/Author/Technical Writer)




From [e-mail] Thu Oct 03 14:35:43 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Mischa)
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Subject: Monterey Bay, California Frequencies
Date: Tue, 24 Sep 1996 23:39:55 -0800
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Hey you scanner buffs, I'm looking for cool frequencies within the
Monterey Bay, California area. Thanks in advance :)


From [e-mail] Thu Oct 03 14:35:44 1996
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From: Leonid Belov <[e-mail]>
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I mean the devices that could be used in such way: for instance a person
that has some kind of a serious desease when an attack of the desease
comes could switch on the device and therefore could be discovered and
helped.
Thank you greatly.
[e-mail]



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From: [e-mail](George L. Vetterle)
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Subject: Re: Real Audio Problem
Date: 25 Sep 1996 10:31:59 GMT
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Sounds like a driver incompatability problem to me.

In <[e-mail]> John Mackey KA0SSF <[e-mail]>
writes:
>
>Scott A. Nelson wrote:
>
>> Anyone ever have this problem?  I get into RealAudio fine, it seems
to
>> work o.k.  Then when I close the RA Player and go to another
webpage, I
>> get a General Protection Error.  I have to close all windows and
then
>> open Netscape again.  Any clues???
>
>I assume this is with Win 3.1. (since GPF errors are rare with win95)
>
>Make sure your config.sys has the following:
>files = 45 (or more)
>stacks = 9,256
>shell=c:\dos\command.com c:\dos\ /p/e:2048
>
>If you are running smartdrive then you also need:
>buffers = 15,0 (or more)
>If you are not running smartdrive then you also need:
>buffers = 45
>
>You also need to (at least) have 8 MB of ram, a virtual
>memory PERMANENT file of at least 3 times the amount of ram.
>
>If you are running QEMM then make sure you ARE NOT
>in "stealth mode".
>
>Do a "mem" command from dos & make sure you have at least
>530k of memory in "largest executable program size" in the
>lower right hand corner after typing "mem".  If you do not
>have at least 530K then try running "memmaker" (unless you
>are running QEMM).
>
>If no resolve then run scandisk (chkdsk/f if in dos 6.0 or
>earlier) & then run defrag.
>
>If that does not solve it then write back & we'll
>go from there.
>
>Good luck.
>
>

--
George L. Vetterle
[e-mail]

        provocateur (uncredentialed)


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From: [e-mail] (Joe Nicholson)
Date: 25 Sep 96 05:20:30
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Subject: Help Indentifying 152.010
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 -=> Quoting Sean Petty to All <=-

 SP> I am trying to locate the licensee of the frequency 152.010 in
 SP> the West Chester, PA area.  This frequency is interfering badly
 SP> with cable channel 19


 How do you know the licensee is interfering with channel 19?

 Did you ever stop to think that the cable system might be so
 poorly designed as to allow outside signals to enter it?  Or
 that your own installation might be so poorly connected as to
 permit signals to enter it?


___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12
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From: [e-mail] (tyler)
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Subject: Re: WTB: Cell mod scanner
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In article <52937i$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] says...
>
>[e-mail] (Thomas) wrote:
>>
>>Anyone wanna sell a scanner that's been mod to pick up cell freq?
>>
>>One that picks up NAM and ESN info please.
>>

>"Wanna" tell why you want NAM and ESN info?
>Also, do you know what the law is on receiving cellular transmissions?
>

The NAM and ESN info comes across a scanner as a quick blirp or chirp or bleep

during a phone conversation unless you listen to a tower frequency and listen
to it constantly.  Scanners don't do anything with that data.  You'd need a
NAM/ESN reader made specifically to read those numbers.



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Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner,alt.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: ATTENTION Scanner Users who want their Discriminators Wired
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"E. Scott Sykes" <[e-mail]> wrote:

>Bill Cheek wrote:
>>
>> [e-mail] (Evan Platt) wrote:
>>
>> >Excuse my ignorance, but what does wiring the discriminator do? I have
>> >a PRO-26..

>> Nothing by itself.  But a number of modifications and add-ons to
>> scanners need a line-level, unfiltered, raw "audio" signal of the type
>> that's before the volume control.  The best raw output signal is right
>> at the output of the scanner's discriminator circuit.

>> The methodology involves soldering a 2.2-uF capacitor (+) to the
>> scanner's discriminator output pin and (-) to a handy output jack on
>> the back panel or side case of the scanner.  Now the "baseband audio"
>> signal is handily available for recording, processing, or whatever you
>> need to do with it.

>When would I need or want this if I already have a OS456 and all kinds
>if recording devices? POCSAG WEFAX ACARS decoding?

I don't know.  I didn't address my response to you.  I responded to
Evan Platt's inquiry.

Bill Cheek
Scannist Extraordinaire



From [e-mail] Thu Oct 03 14:35:50 1996
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From: Paul Knight <[e-mail]>
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Subject: FS: BC2500XLT
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Hi!  I need to move my BC2500XLT; I've had a lot of lookers, but no
buyers.  I can't consider a trade right now.

The 2500XLT is a 400 channel scanner, covering (almost continuously)
25 MHz - 1300 MHz (cellular is unblocked).  It has a turbo mode,
which scans 100 ch./sec.

The unit is in excellent condition, and includes the box, manual,
leather case, a universal DC charger, and a 2nd, additional battery
pack which needs rebuilding.

$225, + shipping.

Please drop me a note ...

--
Thanks!

Paul Knight WD8DKY
[e-mail]

-or-

[e-mail]


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Brian wrote

        all I have to say is to all of you is do what you want and stop
bringing your agurment onto the inet use personal email and not news
group because I have to say you are all the bigest bunch of wining little
babies I have ever seen.

        and like someone else said if you don't get caught it is not a
crime.


From [e-mail] Thu Oct 03 14:35:52 1996
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From: Larry Shilkoff <[e-mail]>
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B. swanson wrote:
>
> if you don't get caught it is not a crime.
>

And people wonder why our social norms appear to be declining.


From [e-mail] Thu Oct 03 14:35:53 1996
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From: John Mackey KA0SSF <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: Bill's & Bob's Support
Date: Wed, 25 Sep 1996 11:05:37 -0700
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Richard Kendrick wrote:
>
> John Mackey KA0SSF <[e-mail]> wrote:
>
> >Richard Kendrick wrote:

> Seems like the pot calling the kettle black.

For a professional person with a CET & a higher class ham license
you sure don't know much.




From [e-mail] Thu Oct 03 14:35:54 1996
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From: John Mackey KA0SSF <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: RG 59\U
Date: Wed, 25 Sep 1996 11:17:22 -0700
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tyler wrote:

> In article <3242dda8.68916091@192.188.72.19>, [e-mail] says...
> >Sure is.  Beats the snot out of RG-58 and is still small and flexible.
> >I wouldn't use it for lengths much greater than 25-ft.  Any longer,
> >and I'd go for RG-6 satellite cable, or...if you're a "purist", use
> >Belden 9913....but that may be overkill for your needs.

> What the "Scannist Extraordinaire/Logistics eng/Electrical eng/" failed
> to mention was that RG 59 is not 50 ohms, but 75.  It sure helps to match yo
ur
> antenna to your feedline to your radio.  Geeez Bill, what are you telling
> these people?


That is EXACTLY correct.  Using rg-59 will immediately give you a 2:1
SWR
which will create signal loss because it is 75 ohm rather than 50 like
everyone uses.  Then rg-59 IS NOT uv resistant so it will
become even more lossy as time progresses if it is used outside or
exposed
to sunlight.  9913 is also not uv resistant so even though it is the
correct
impedence it still has the same problem of becomming lossy like rg-59.

The only coax that is uv resistant that I am aware of is rg-213 & 214.


BTW- Tyler, you forgot to mention that Bill also calls himself a
Chemical Engineer.




From [e-mail] Thu Oct 03 14:35:55 1996
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From: [e-mail]
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Subject: Re: Salt Lake Frequencies
Date: Wed, 25 Sep 1996 23:05:18 -0600
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Charles Uibel wrote:
>
> Please send Police or any other frequencies

Here are some frequncies from the SL area -most were given to me by a
police officer

SLC 151.3250
SLC 460.1000 Channel 1
SLC 460.2000 Channel 2 (TAC)
SLC 460.3000 Channel 3
Sandy 154.8300 Channel 1
Sandy 155.9550 Channel 2 (TAC>
SL County 154.6500
SL COunty 153.3700
U of U Police 154.7250

These are all police frequencies.  Hope the help

Shane Hofeling
[e-mail]


From [e-mail] Thu Oct 03 14:35:56 1996
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From: John Mackey KA0SSF <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: The study of French
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You have some SERIOUS homosexual desires I guess Bill.

You sent me private e-mail and practically every other sentence
was related to Homosexual desires of yours.  Sorry Bill I don't
agree with that lifestyle.  I've included a few of the comments
you made below.  :)


Bill Cheek wrote:

> it is understandable that a low life faggot would not

> about Mr. Hansen.  He will give you an orgasm by direct

> >> help:  like your faggotry.

> You know how you have a sexual obsession for me?

> After all, you are a "cocksuckaire extraordinaire"....




> and don't say a word TO or ABOUT me ever again, and you'll get

Bill I suppose the hell I have put you thru & with as many
times as I have taken you to task that you would seriously
wish that I would never talk about you again.  BUT, as long as
you conduct yourself the way you do I will take you to task
when ever I feel it is appropriate.




From [e-mail] Thu Oct 03 14:35:57 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Michael Schuster)
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Subject: Re: Trident
Date: 26 Sep 1996 09:58:26 -0400
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******************************************
***Start using ***REC**.radio.scanner*****
******************************************


In article <52d10e$[e-mail]>, Gus <[e-mail]> wrote
:
>Does anyone have a comment on the trident scanners.  I have a friend
>that bought one of their high end scanners and he says it works great.
>I have used it some and it looked liked it had few probs.  was
>unblocked with many features.
>

"Trident" is the pseudo-brand name used by ACE Communications for radios
formerly distributed through them by AOR. One cannot make a blanket
statement about these radios ... often they come from different
manufacturers. Some are excellent but quirky, some are mediocre, some are
awful.


--
Mike Schuster           |       [e-mail]
[e-mail]      |       [e-mail]


From [e-mail] Thu Oct 03 14:35:58 1996
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From: [e-mail](BAYCITVIDGRP)
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Subject: Re: bearcat 70XLT
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In <52cotb$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Alexander Gordon Soon)
writes:
>
>Anyone know if this scanner can have the cell mod done? I am thinking
of
>buying one used but I want to get cell. Its only 20 channels. Can it
be
>done?
>
>thanks.
>
>Gord.

       Succincticity is my game: NO.

      It's an old scanner....people get them
      used for 30 dollars or so at swap meets.

      I have one...good basic scanner.

      Succinctly: no cell capable....

      $200 units will get you into cellular possibilities
      used units around ... or less.... 150 maybe....

      Just have to get a list of scanners which are
     modifiable....someone posted a list a few yarn
     back.....right, the CHEEKS GUY did...I kid you
     not...he did not use the POOP word either....

     bill conduit
     the 'etc' guy


From [e-mail] Thu Oct 03 14:35:59 1996
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>Brian wrote
>
>       all I have to say is to all of you is do what you want and stop
>bringing your agurment onto the inet use personal email and not news
>group because I have to say you are all the bigest bunch of wining little
>babies I have ever seen.
>
>       and like someone else said if you don't get caught it is not a
>crime.

Does that also mean if someone steals your car or your credit card and they do
n't get
caught it's not a crime?????  OOOOOOk.........  I hope you will be goin back t
o 11 meters
now.........




From [e-mail] Thu Oct 03 14:36:00 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Wally Chopyk)
Subject: Re: antenna
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Can't speak for RS Discone, but you may want to check out the Scantenna
at Grove Enterprises

                www.grove.net

Wally

MaD MaX ([e-mail]) wrote:
: Does anyone have an good scanner antenna they would recomend? I have a
: pro-2006. Are the Radio Shack Discones any good?!

--
Origin: Wally Chopyk <[e-mail]>   Scarborough, Ontario, Canada


From [e-mail] Thu Oct 03 14:36:00 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Ke4yqz)
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Subject: Re: Scanners Legal in Ga.?
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Scanners are absolutely legal within the state of Georgia.
There are no restrictions in their use in your car, boat,
P/U truck, etc.

If you need any frequencies for the state, call:
(770-) 942-1089
This is the Southeast Signals Intelligence Group BBS
(No relation to Signal Intelligence Company out of
New York and their office somewhere in California)

Roger Cravens
Atlanta


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Bill Cheek wrote:

> Bill Cheek
> Scannist Extraordinaire
> (Publisher/Editor/Author/Technical Writer)
and primary Bullshitter



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From: RF BURNS <[e-mail]>
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Icom R-7000 $750 firm
Mint box and book

Icom R-71a vgc box and book hf rcvr
$525 shipped firm

yeasu ft-40
uhf ham ht box and book $225 firm shipped
hi power 99chdtmf with dvr

ADI 2 meter ht extended rx tx
140-163mhz approx
20 ch
mint in box charger manual.






From [e-mail] Thu Oct 03 14:36:03 1996
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From: [e-mail] (bob puharic)
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Subject: Re: Travel with toys (electronics)
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[e-mail] (John Moran) wrote:

>has anyone traveled domestically (US) or Internationally with electronic
>equipement and experienced any security delays related to the toys you
>were traveling with.

scanners are illegal in some states so check the laws before you go.
On overseas stuff, i once carried a brief case full of semiconductor
lasers thru customs....they were searching the guy ahead of me, and
just asked what i was carrying. when i told them, they let me thru!



From [e-mail] Thu Oct 03 14:36:04 1996
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From: "Curt Nelson" <[e-mail]>
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I spoke to a couple of Secret Service guys at a presidential function about
ten days ago. Clinton's code name is, in fact, "Eagle."

--
Later,
Curt Nelson
Seattle, Washington, U.S.A.
_______________________________
Happy thoughts are what I am
whenever I eat a can of SPAM.
My heart does pulse with grand delight
whenever I take a hearty bite.
SPAM is wonderful, SPAM is great.
I lick my lips, I lick the plate.
That pinkish meat is what I crave.
SPAM I am its mortal slave.

Bob <[e-mail]> wrote in article
<521gj9$[e-mail]>...
> I once read that the president is always refered to as "Eagle"
>
>


From [e-mail] Thu Oct 03 14:36:05 1996
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Bill Cheek wrote:

> Reverend Bill Cheek
> Minister, U.L.C.

Oh that's another good one.  Do you go by "Father Bill" or "Pastor
Bill"?



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From: [e-mail] (inquiziter)
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Tracy Justus <[e-mail]> wrote:

>What limits are you entering? If there are any blocked freqs between
>your search range then it will give you an error. If your trying to
>scan cell phones then try 895-915, that gets pretty much most of 'em.
>This is assuming you have a bearcat 200xlt.

>[e-mail] wrote:
>> I let my batt. run down and after it was recharged, I could program my
>> freq. on the varrious channels but, I can't scan the telephones as it
>> won't set the low and high limits. Any suggestions?
wonder which Bearcat  as it is extreemly hard to get the memory /
programing to  "forget "  even if you take out the batt pack  for a
week it still remembers ?

and often when we know something, we know too little...



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From: [e-mail] (Tomcat305)
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Subject: NAWC Point Mugu Airshow
Date: 28 Sep 1996 11:03:01 -0400
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Hello all, who is going to the Mugu's Airshow so I can give them some
freqs.  Also does anybody know the Blue Angel Freqs.?


[e-mail]


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From: [e-mail] (Jeff Goldman)
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Subject: Re: USSS code names
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Since Clinton, Livingstone, and Marceca (i.e. Larry, Curley, and Moe)
probably already have my FBI file, it should be no trouble to add another
paragraph.  Maybe they can just tell Congress and the special prosecutor
that they were victims of circumstance.  NYUK, NYUK, NYUK.

P.S. - To the guys in the car across the street: I will be heading out to
do my laundry in 10 minutes.  Look alive and don't fall behind in
traffic!



From [e-mail] Thu Oct 03 14:36:08 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Tom Cwikla)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Altimiter=pressure?
Date: 28 Sep 96 22:58:36 GMT
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In <52hprj$[e-mail]> [e-mail] writes:

>Does anybody know why on Airline frequencies when they say things
>along the line of "Atlanta Altimiter is 2990" they actually mean the
>barometric pressure is 29.90 inches?? I know that is what they mean,
>Iwas just wondering why?

So the pilot can set the altimiter on the airplane to 2990 and get accurate
altitude readings. An altimiter works by sensing air pressure, since air
pressure decreases as you go higher. However air pressure also varies on its
own, and from region to region. That is why each altimieter has a little
dial to compensate for the current air pressure.

--Tom.


From [e-mail] Thu Oct 03 14:36:09 1996
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From: [e-mail]
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Subject: PRO-2040 Modifications Fact/Fiction
Date: Sat, 28 Sep 1996 23:26:25 GMT
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Heard lots of rumors, want facts whether you can or cannot modify this
scanner.
Any help  at all on this matter would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks in advance,

Boomer


From [e-mail] Thu Oct 03 14:36:10 1996
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From: Brian McDonald <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: alt.radio.scanner,rec.radio.scanner,rec.radio.shortwave
Subject: FS: Radio Shack Pro-39 Hyperscan Scanner
Date: Sat, 28 Sep 1996 17:50:24 -0700
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Looking to sell Radio Shack Pro-39 scanner, less than a year old, BARELY
even used, looks brand new.. Covers various frquencies VHF-Lo,
Ham,Aircraft, Government, Ham (144Mhz-148) VHF-Hi, Ham/Govt, UHF-Lo,
UHF-TV, UHF Hi 800 Mhz bands and 900 bands.. Hyperscan, 200 channels
memory, (10 banks of 20 channels each), good scanner model, near top of
the line.. Has instruction booklet, AC adapter, Retractable enchanced
antenna.. Bought for $300, looking to get $175-$200 + shipping.

Please leave your replies/offers to my email address:
[e-mail]

Thank you,
Brian McDonald


From [e-mail] Thu Oct 03 14:36:10 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Russell Holliman)
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Subject: clearing a bearcat
Date: Sun, 29 Sep 1996 04:38:46 GMT
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I have an old BC-200 that has a lot of now useless freqs programmed
in. is there a quite way of clearing the memory and starting over?
thanks in advance.


russell holliman
[e-mail]


From [e-mail] Thu Oct 03 14:36:11 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Richard Kendrick)
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John Mackey KA0SSF <[e-mail]> wrote:

>I can't because he wrote my fido sysop telling him he doesn't want me
>to write back to him even though he has continued writing to me at
>my fido address.

If you want to be seen, stand up.
If you want to be heard, speak up.
If you want to be appreciated, sit down and shut up.

Richard Kendrick CET WA7TWI           |
Amateur Radio Extra Class             |  Do not adjust your mind, there
QRP #4129/G-QRP #8591/MI-QRP #M-1412  |  is a fault in reality.
Mesa, AZ  email: [e-mail]  |



From [e-mail] Thu Oct 03 14:36:12 1996
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From: Steven Giron <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Altimiter=pressure?
Date: Sat, 28 Sep 1996 23:02:24 -0700
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[e-mail] wrote:
>
> Does anybody know why on Airline frequencies when they say things
> along the line of "Atlanta Altimiter is 2990" they actually mean the
> barometric pressure is 29.90 inches?? I know that is what they mean,
> Iwas just wondering why?
> please respond by e-mail to [e-mail]
> THANKS ALOT IN ADVANCE


Conventional barometric altimeters use the outside air pressure to give
altitude. The air pressure affects a samll diaphram inside of the altimeter
which is geared to the dials on the face of the altimeter that the pilot reads
.

When an airplane is sitting on the runway at an airport at 1000 feet the altim
ter
should read 1000 feet. Now if a low pressure system should travel when this ai
rplane
sits, the diaphram will expand and the altimter will read a higher than 1000 f
eet
altitude. By adusting the altimter to the current barometric pressure measured
 in
inches of mercury via a small knob on the altimter, the altimeter can be corre
cted and
should read 1000 feet if set to the proper setting.

Standard air pressure at sea level is 29.92 inches of mercury. This is what th
e airlines
set their altimeters to when flying above 18000 feet (Flight level 180) By doi
ng this,
there is no need to adjust the altimeter every 100 miles. So actually the airl
ines or
anyone above flight level 180 flys what is known as "pressure altitudues"


--
+----------------------------------------------------------+
| "Flying"  Hours upon hours of pure bordeom interrupted   |
|           by a few seconds of sheer terror.              |
+----------------------------------------------------------+


From [e-mail] Thu Oct 03 14:36:13 1996
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From: Charles Uibel <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: cold unload
Date: Sat, 28 Sep 1996 23:16:41 -0700
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listening to the life flight helicopters, I hear the phrase "cold unload"
am I hearing this right? Is this dead body?


From [e-mail] Thu Oct 03 14:36:14 1996
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From: [e-mail] (kEN Colburn)
Subject: Re: Radioware -- how to contact, where to buy Seeker 800, cellular yagi.
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i just got the new cat from Radioware.
--

My Mom's Net rules:
Don't post FAST CASH.
Don't REPLY publically to FAST CASH!
No running on the Net with scissors!
Don't read emale from strangers.
Let your sister get online for awhile, dammit!
Shut up, I'm on the modem!    [e-mail]
http://www.mainelink.net/~writer/poster/Poster.html




From [e-mail] Thu Oct 03 14:36:15 1996
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From: [e-mail] (kEN Colburn)
Subject: Scanners for $5
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Came into possesion of some older xtal scanners for $5 each!
Just had to rub it in to youse guys.
Actually the guy has a few more for sale ifyou're in the LA CA area. i
got the Pro 14,Pro7a and Pro 45.
They only pickup 30-50, 144-174 and 450 mHz bands tho and i'll have to
order some xtals from RS.
--

My Mom's Net rules:
Don't post FAST CASH.
Don't REPLY publically to FAST CASH!
No running on the Net with scissors!
Don't read emale from strangers.
Let your sister get online for awhile, dammit!
Shut up, I'm on the modem!    [e-mail]
http://www.mainelink.net/~writer/poster/Poster.html




From [e-mail] Thu Oct 03 14:36:16 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Watcher5)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: AMERICAN DOLLARS
Date: Sun, 29 Sep 1996 08:55:57 GMT
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[e-mail] (Drew Durigan) wrote:

>Well, there must be some sort of substantial difference in temperatures.
>Otherwise, why would we have several thousands of Canadians running
>around down here every winter?

I never said there wasn't differences in temperatures.  I'm just
saying it's not the sub-zero wasteland that you guys all think it is.
Take a look at reviews on Alaska.  You'll see during their summer,
they have grass and flowers growing.  Alaska is FURTHER north than
most of Canada.

>>Help overturn the illegal Helms-Burton law.  Support the Florida ban!
>
>I agree!  Stay home this winter.  Then, maybe those of us who live down
>here and work for a living will be able to use our roads and get where we
>need to go without having to dodge the hordes of elderly Canadian
>snowbirds.

Well, if it does happen, don't whine to me about your economy
suffering from it.  Last year, 1.7 million Canadians visited Florida
alone.  Those people spent $1.8 billion.  That's why we want this ban
to succeed.  Maybe your Florida politicians will realize the
Helms-Burton Law (which is ILLEGAL under International Law) was a bad
mistake and demand that it be overturned.  Doubtful considering how
pig-headed you assholes are.  Look at the timber dispute.  It went to
3 trade boards and each time the boards found in favour of Canada, but
you guys just kept whining about it until we got fed up and hammered
out a deal just to shut you up for 5 years.

Then of course there is your guys' belief that you have free passage
rights through OUR Inside Passage.  Another example of Americans
forcing their will upon other countries.  When are you all going to
wise up?  Probably never.  Of course I may not have to worry.  With
the amount of violence and guns in your country, it may not be long
before you all wipe yourselves out.  The day that happens, there will
be a huge party the world over.


Help overturn the illegal Helms-Burton law.  Support the Florida ban!


From [e-mail] Thu Oct 03 14:36:17 1996
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From: Tracy Justus <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: Scanners for $5
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Sounds like he got them on the five finger discount plan!

kEN Colburn wrote:
> Came into possesion of some older xtal scanners for $5 each!
> Just had to rub it in to youse guys.
> Actually the guy has a few more for sale ifyou're in the LA CA area. i
> got the Pro 14,Pro7a and Pro 45.
> They only pickup 30-50, 144-174 and 450 mHz bands tho and i'll have to
> order some xtals from RS.

--
________________________________
[e-mail]
http://www.westworld.com/~justus


From [e-mail] Thu Oct 03 14:36:18 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Gus)
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[e-mail] (Craig Welch) wrote:


>Which ng? You have posted to:
actually I have possted to a lot more than that but I don't think that
I said that I posted it.  If that is what i wrote it is wrong.
someone else posted it.  I only read it


>I haven't seen any such list, and *every* airline with which I fly my
>300,000+ per year *specifically* excludes such toys.
have you flown with every airline?

>I can't argue with that. But again, I make the point that if it's
>against the airline's rules, you shouldn't be using them.

can't argue there.  I am not saying use them.  I simply stated that I
saw a list that showed airline that WOULD let you use them





From [e-mail] Thu Oct 03 14:36:25 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Bill Cheek)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Bill C repost
Date: Sun, 29 Sep 1996 09:29:52 GMT
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[e-mail] (Bert) wrote:

>[e-mail] (Bill Cheek) wrote:
>
>>Reverend Bill Cheek
>>Minister, U.L.C.
>
>Heh heh heh heh, <LMFAO> gotta love'ya Doc, give'em hell.

<Giggle>  And the hell of it is they think I'm pulling their legs.

:-))

Hang tough, Bert.

Rev. Bill Cheek
Pastor/Flockmaster



From [e-mail] Thu Oct 03 14:36:28 1996
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From: SP PHIL <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: Fleet Week in SF
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Edward A Griffin wrote:
>
> >Jeff Goldman wrote:
> >>
> >> Does anyone have frequencies for the fleet week festivities in San
> >> Francisco to include the air shows.
>
> 1994 Fleet week in SF
> Blue Angels
> 251.6 soloists 5-6
> 263.35 flight line common maint
> 275.35 diamond 1-4
> 302.15 all 6 alt
> 307.7 all 6
> 384.4 Alameda Tower
>
> For 1996
> Here are freq.s reported in use this year by various folks in other
> locations by the Blue Angels.  Keep them handy for Fleet Week in SF
> next month.
> 238.15 for communications in the "delta" (all 6 aircraft), used in
> Chicago, Norfolk, Cleveland
> 275.35 the diamond (aircraft 1,2,3, and 4) intercom, used in Chicago,
> Norfolk, El Toro, Cleveland
> 345.90 the two solos intercom, used in Chicago, Cleveland
> 263.35 C-130 Fat Albert, Norfolk
> 264.55 solos, Norfolk
> 370.70 El Toro
> 251.60 El Toro
> 168.900 Maint, Norfolk
> 170.900 Maint & link to airboss, Norfolk
>
> The Bay Area Scanner Enthusiasts (BASE) Club will have a monitoring
> post setup atop the Pier 39 parking garage complete with scanners and
> amplified speakers.
>
> Edward
> BASE801
> http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/griffined
> WARNING:        Unsolicited commercial e-mail: $500 per message:
>                 US Code, Title 47 Section 227
>                 http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/47/227.html


From [e-mail] Thu Oct 03 14:36:29 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Joe J. Budion)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Toledo St. V's Life Flight Frequencies
Date: Sun, 29 Sep 1996 12:49:48 GMT
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Does anyone know the frequiencies for the St. Vincents Life Flight
helocoptor in TOLedo, OH?

Thanks In Advance!!!

Joe
[e-mail]
_______________________
Joe J. Budion, IV
Sylvania, OH 43560 USA
[e-mail]
[e-mail]



From [e-mail] Thu Oct 03 14:36:30 1996
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From: Rich Wells <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Advice on buying the Bearcat BC9000XLT
Date: Sun, 29 Sep 1996 10:40:46 -0400
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Art,
   Having owned and used a BC9000 for about six months, I would give the
following review

   Positive : tuning dial, alpha-tagging, # channels, channels/bank,
              auto-store, search-lockout
   Negative : auto-store, AM sensitivity, AM audio quality

   The auto-store and search-lockout are great features. However, during
auto-store of 5KHz-step frequency ranges, the poor selectivity of this
scanner shows through(if during the search the frequency 154.965 becomes
active, you'll not only get this frequency, but ALMOST always, the
frequencies on either-side e.g. 154.960 and 154.970). I find this VERY
annoying...that's why I've ordered a Pro-2042 and plan to compare the
two side-by-side and probably sell the loser.
   It's also annoying to pick-up cell-phone images during searches of
the UHF military aviation frequency ranges. Some would consider this
a plus...I do not. I do not think there is a mod to restore cellular.
For this you'll have to buy a UBC-9000(the European version) from
someone like Javiation.
   I'm a pilot and listen to the VHF aeronautical frequencies A LOT. This
scanner is probably the worst I have owned in regards to AM sensitivity
and signal quality...my Pro-26 ranks just a notch or two above it. Funny,
my R-1 is probably the best AM radio I have owned in terms of sensitivity..
and that's compared to an Icom A-22 which is a dedicated AM transceiver.
   So...overall it's a very nice scanner but for what I use it for the
most, it suffers. I think I'll be happier with the 2042. And of course,
your mileage may vary...

Strong signals,
Rich Wells
N2MCA
Owner : Pro-34 Pro-43 Pro-26 Pro-2006 R-1 AR-8000 MVT-7100 BC-9000
Former Owner : Pro-51 BCT-7 BC-8500
North Carolina editor
The Scanner Club
http://www.enter.net/~jheller/scanclub.html

Art Burke wrote:
> Is it any good?  How reliable are the Bearcats?  Does the autosave
> feature work well?
> Is there any way to modify it to receive cellular freqs?


From [e-mail] Thu Oct 03 14:36:31 1996
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From: [e-mail] (David Bernazzani)
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Subject: Re: RG 59\U
Date: Sun, 29 Sep 1996 14:43:59 GMT
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[e-mail] (Bill Cheek) wrote:

>[e-mail] (tyler) wrote:
>...
>>to mention was that RG 59 is not 50 ohms, but 75.  It sure helps to match yo
ur
>>antenna to your feedline to your radio.  Geeez Bill, what are you telling
>>these people?

>To which Bill Cheek replied:

>All self-respecting amateur radio operators with official licenses
>from the Federales know that a 75-50 ohm mismatch causes a 1.5:1 VSWR,
>the loss of which is 4%. This equates to a loss of less than 0.2 dB.

True.  The loss is only about 1.5:1 - still very respectable
especially compared to the gain you get from using the better cable.
In practice, on any antenna system I've dealt with you aren't going to
have below about 1.2:1 and even that varies through the band you are
working with.  The 1.5:1 makes little difference in transmit and
probably won't affect receive that you could tell the difference.

However, 2 things:

(1) Why not use RG8X cable?  It's 50 Ohms so it matches well (although
we have already determined that is not a big deal) and it is
reasonably cheap (less than $20 for about 50 feet).  It's better than
RG58 but not as expensive (or loss-free) as pure RG8U.  Is the 75-Ohm
RG59 that much lower-loss and cost effective?

(2) I see some bashing of the Amateur Radio community from time to
time here in this forum.  If someone with an FCC amateur license makes
an incorrect assumption or gives bad information then some assume the
FCC amateur program failed to do it's job teaching the licensee.  Or
worse, some may claim that the whole program is just a joke to begin
with.

Not that I care what everyone thinks about the FCC amateur program,
but I just got my license this year and it was not so that I would
know everything there is to know about the radio art.  We all realize
that the piece of paper is not the knowledge source.  It requires much
time reading, digesting, experimenting and using radio equipment
(which is why I respectfully yield to the knowledge of the many
non-licensed helpfuls in this group).  The license for me and many
others is just a beginning - a ticket to experiment on the designated
bands and tinker with antennas, feed-lines, radios, etc.  One of the
purposes of amateur radio is to improve technical skills and to
understand through experimentation - not to make radio geniuses.


Oh... sorry about the soapbox and all.

Take care,

Dave Bernazzani
N1WSQ



From [e-mail] Thu Oct 03 14:36:32 1996
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From: [e-mail] (tyler)
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Subject: Re: RG 59\U
Date: 29 Sep 1996 16:11:25 GMT
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>So why did you have to start a big ol' snit?  Why not just ask?

Because that is apparently the only way to get all the facts in here.

Ok Bill, I'm asking:  Some radios use actual oscillators for the local osc.
Most scanners that I know of use frequency synthesis.  How exactly does this
work?  I know it's a microprocessor controlled event, but what exactly
generates the osc voltage?

>What would you LIKE for it to be?  Do you think we're done with
>cables?  (Not.)  Your cousin just unloaded a bunch of silly stuff
>about the effects of ultraviolet on cables.  Do you think he's right?
>
Don't know.  I've never had a cable up long enough to get any significant UV.
 I'm either changing the antenna or changing the cable, or both.

Tyler



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From: [e-mail] (HH357)
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Subject: Re: Computer Interference
Date: 29 Sep 1996 12:20:01 -0400
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In article <[e-mail]>, Randy1000 <[e-mail]>
writes:

>
>Does anyone know a easy fix to stop computer interference?  My computer
>seems to affect freq of 39MHz-49MHz on my scanner.

Try clamp on ferrite cores on the cords:
   1.   at the back of the keyboard
   2.   at the back of the case:
         a.  on the printer cable
         b.  on the video cable

Make sure your system is grounded correctly

              cheers


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From: John Mackey KA0SSF <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: Bill C repost
Date: Sun, 29 Sep 1996 11:13:48 -0700
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BAYCITVIDGRP wrote:

>     Mackey...SILENCE IS GOLDEN.

Then why don't you prove that & SHUT UP.




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From: John Mackey KA0SSF <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Bill C repost
Date: Sun, 29 Sep 1996 11:15:18 -0700
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Richard Kendrick wrote:

> If you want to be appreciated, sit down and shut up.

Perhaps you could lead by example?




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From: John Mackey KA0SSF <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: Bill C repost
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Mark Reynolds wrote:

>  Being able to address email requires an IQ above 50.
>
>  You can tell from the 4-letter words who doesn't have have
                                                     ^^^^^^^
>  the intelligence to master English to express himself.


And being able to write a complete sentence without repeating
the words requires an IQ above 40.



From [e-mail] Thu Oct 03 14:36:36 1996
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From: John Mackey KA0SSF <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: RG 59\U
Date: Sun, 29 Sep 1996 11:30:04 -0700
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Bill Cheek wrote:

> No kidding.  Makes ya wonder where this latest crop of Amateur Radio
> Operators come from.........  Could it be they greased the palms of
> the VE's?  Nahhhhhh.......couldn't be.........could it?

At least they can demonstrate some kind of proof, as you have
NEVER been able to demonstrate proof of your engineering degree
or FCC commercial license.

hahahahhahaah




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From: Scott Zahirniak <[e-mail]>
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Subject: FS:MOT MT1000
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I have For Sale:

MT1000 UHF Handheld Two-Way Radio for $550 O.B.O. Almost Brand New!!!!

- Frequency Range of 450-470mhz

- 99 Programable Channels

- 5 watt capability

If interested send an e-mail to: "[e-mail]" or call
"510-862-1827"


From [e-mail] Thu Oct 03 14:36:38 1996
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From: John Mackey KA0SSF <[e-mail]>
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Glen Quarnstrom wrote:

> You just can't stop with the insults and namecalling, can you, Bill?

No he can't.  We've offered him truces 3 times & he just wants to
continue the fights.

He's just a little fool.

hahaaha




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From: [e-mail] (Oak Hall Rescue)
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this is a test



From [e-mail] Thu Oct 03 14:36:40 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Bob Parnass, AJ9S)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner,alt.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: PRO-2046 MOBILE SCANNER
Date: 29 Sep 1996 19:25:56 GMT
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Summary: reviewed in Oct. 96 Monitoring Times
Xref: news2.epix.net rec.radio.scanner:56957 alt.radio.scanner:33439

In article <52l3bl$[e-mail]>,
mcarver <[e-mail]> wrote:

    >Anyone have any advice on what type of antenna works best
    >with this scanner?  Also, does anyone know where I
    >can find a review of this model, the PRO-2046

See my PRO-2046 review in the current issue (October 1996)
of Monitoring Times magazine.
--
==============================================================================
Copyright 1996, Bob Parnass, AJ9S                        [e-mail]

        Locate & identify transmitters in your area with RadioMap(tm)


From [e-mail] Thu Oct 03 14:36:41 1996
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From: "Piet Carels" <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: alt.binaries.pictures.girlfriends,alt.comp.virus,alt.games,euro.net,rec.radio.scanner,soc.culture.romanian
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Two Romenian computergames on disk.
1. ILICI
2. POC ILIESCU

Those games are available on request by sending
10 Dutch guilders, 200 Belg.Fr, 10 DM or payed on Postbank nr 5198140
t.n.v. P.J. Carels, Heinkenszand Holland
adress. PO Box 77,  4450AB Heinkenszand

All the profit from the sales of those diskettes go to a
children hospital in Petrosani, Romenia
Thanks for you'r help.
All other contributions are very welcome !


From [e-mail] Thu Oct 03 14:36:42 1996
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From: [e-mail] (FishFotoJr)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Re:Air Force One
Date: 29 Sep 1996 16:03:04 -0400
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I belive that the "Crown" units are military/secret service agents on the
"ramp", or I belive that is what  I remember from the Presidential/Papal
flight into Newark Int'l Airport last year photographing the Papal visit
last Oct.


Steven E. Frischling
Freelance News Photographer
NYPD Working Press #0067

Too young to be respected; Too old to not be taken seriously; INVINCIBLE!;
Fear was just a word in the dictionary; Life was a right, not a gift;
Death was only a concept; STRENGTH!--Nikon F4s ad 1992



From [e-mail] Thu Oct 03 14:36:42 1996
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From: [e-mail](Steve S)
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Subject: Re: Decoding digital FM SCA/RDS data.
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In <[e-mail]> "G. Tong" <[e-mail]> writes:
>
>Numerous demodulated FM SCA signals here (the ones that aren't Muzak)
>appear to be some form of digital data (stock quotes, maybe?), but
>feeding this data directly into my PC's COM port shows only gibberish
>regardless of the baud rate chosen.  How can I decode this data into
>something readable?  Please post solutions or send via e-mail.  Any
>knowledge received will of course be used "for informational purposes
>only."  :-)

Also any info on RDS (RBDS) decoding would be helpful.


From [e-mail] Thu Oct 03 14:36:44 1996
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From: Ronald Coursey <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Radio Shack PRO-2006 Scanners For Sale
Date: Sun, 29 Sep 1996 13:29:41 -0700
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PVBoy33 wrote:
>
> Scott Cochran wrote:
> >Just last week, when the first lady was in town, I monitored traffic on
> >415.700. "Crown Crown Executive One Foxtrot" was heard. What or who is
> >Crown??
>
> In response, the rumor I've heard on the subject is that "Crown" is the
> ground SS agents
He flew by east Iowa enroute Muscatine Iowa.
Is he Exec 1 freighter carrying limo's?
They ran a patch then went secure (they feed modems over the
voice circuit)
Sample in
http://www.geocities.com/Tokyo/3899/scanners.html


From [e-mail] Thu Oct 03 14:36:46 1996
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From: [e-mail](Steve S)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: US vs. CAN (was AMERICAN DOLLARS)
Date: 29 Sep 1996 20:51:19 GMT
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In <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Watcher5)
writes:
>
>I never said there wasn't differences in temperatures.  I'm just
>saying it's not the sub-zero wasteland that you guys all think it is.
>Take a look at reviews on Alaska.  You'll see during their summer,
>they have grass and flowers growing.  Alaska is FURTHER north than
>most of Canada.
>Last year, 1.7 million Canadians visited Florida
>alone.  Those people spent $1.8 billion.

$1.8 billion Canadian is about $125 US, isn't it?

>That's why we want this ban to succeed.  Maybe your Florida
politicians will realize the Helms-Burton Law (which is ILLEGAL under
International Law)

Since when did the US care about International Law?  We don't bow to
the UN like some "other" nations I know of. (Hell, we're even late
paying our membership dues!)

>was a bad mistake and demand that it be overturned.  Doubtful
>considering how pig-headed you assholes are.

Don't look now, but several thousand Canadians are getting real health
care in US facilities by pig-headed US doctors.

>Look at the timber dispute.  It went to 3 trade boards and each time
>the boards found in favour of Canada, but you guys just kept whining
>about it until we got fed up and hammered out a deal just to shut you
>up for 5 years.

And GM, Ford, and Chrysler were nice enough to let you build several
cars and keep them in your country (but not the profits).  I think I'll
just go down to my local Canadian car dealer and picket.....oops, can
find one, sorry.

>Then of course there is your guys' belief that you have free passage
>rights through OUR Inside Passage.  Another example of Americans
>forcing their will upon other countries.

Those with nukes make the rules.  If we don't let an independant Panama
hamper our passage down there, do you think some colony of Great
Britain is going to influence us?

>When are you all going to wise up?  Probably never.  Of course I may
>not have to worry.  With the amount of violence and guns in your
>country, it may not be long before you all wipe yourselves out.

At least we can legally own guns.  And I'd like to see an Anglo-phone
going walking in Montreal after dark singing "God save the queen".

>The day that happens, there will be a huge party the world over.

Yeah. Your house and Baghdad.

Respectfully,
Steve S.



From [e-mail] Thu Oct 03 14:36:47 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Richard Kendrick)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Bill C repost
Date: 29 Sep 1996 13:55:03 -0700
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John Mackey KA0SSF <[e-mail]> wrote:

>Richard Kendrick wrote:

>> If you want to be appreciated, sit down and shut up.

>Perhaps you could lead by example?

I would, but over the last six months you have been _considerably_
more vocal than I. Therefore, based on the volume of bombast emitted
by the few misfiring neurons in that cavity you so euphemistically refer to a
a brain, lead the way.

Richard Kendrick CET WA7TWI           |
Amateur Radio Extra Class             |  Do not adjust your mind, there
QRP #4129/G-QRP #8591/MI-QRP #M-1412  |  is a fault in reality.
Mesa, AZ  email: [e-mail]  |



From [e-mail] Thu Oct 03 14:36:48 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Richard Kendrick)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Bill Cheek is an IDIOT was:Re: RG 59\U
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John Mackey KA0SSF <[e-mail]> wrote:

>Bill Cheek wrote:

[Bill's respnose snipped]

[Mackey's response snipped]

>The effects of UV on cables is not "a bunch of silly stuff".  It is a
>well
>know established fact.  I am surprised that a "engineer" does not know
>this.

Oh great guru of the UV, please bestow upon us the sacred wisdom you
have to share. We anxiously await your sacred oracle.


Richard Kendrick CET WA7TWI           |
Amateur Radio Extra Class             |  Do not adjust your mind, there
QRP #4129/G-QRP #8591/MI-QRP #M-1412  |  is a fault in reality.
Mesa, AZ  email: [e-mail]  |



From [e-mail] Thu Oct 03 14:36:50 1996
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From: Matthew Kleinmann <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Bearcat 210 question (add on board)
Date: Sun, 29 Sep 1996 17:44:23 -0400
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I just picked up an old Bearcat 210 18 channel scanner at a yard sale
the other day.  After I got it home and began playing with it, I
noaticed a BNC jack someone had added to the back.  I had assumed that
it was jumpered over to the antenna input.  Anyway, curiosity got the
better of me, and I popped the beast open, and son of a gun if someone
did not bolt a cute lil board in the rear left corner of the thing.  I
figure it is not stock because it is in the way of the dorkey little
antenna that normally screws into the top of the thing.  The board has
three pieces of thin coax going to it, two from the scanner board, and
one from the BNC jack, and it has two other wires that look like power
going to it.  The board has two IC's on it, a motorola MC1357P and a
TL071.  I recognise the TL071 as an opamp, and the coac going to the BNC
comes off near that, so I figure that may be some kind of an ?audio?
out.  I am still trying to figure out what the  1357P is.  Do any of you
have a clue as to what the board is or does?  Also, the scanner has a
search button on it, but I have yet to be able to get it to do
anything.  Anybody know how that works or what she does?  Many thanks in
advance!

--Matthew


From [e-mail] Thu Oct 03 14:36:52 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Gus)
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Dan Henderson <[e-mail]> wrote:


>According to the safety announcements...ANY receiver cannot EVER be
>used...not after 10 minutes after t/off and 10 min prior to landing like
>computers and other things are...NO receiver cannot be used....The point
>is mute re scanners...THEY CANNOT BE USED...and all the airlines have the
>same rule, at least in the USA...

and anytime inbetween the 10 min after and 10 min before the can be
used on some airlines.  I NEVER debated using them 10 min after and 10
min before.  so don't jump me for that.



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From: [e-mail] (RfSam)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: OPTOELECTRONICS R-10 INTERCEPTOR & APS-104  9-29
Date: 29 Sep 1996 18:00:29 -0400
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OPTOELECTRONICS R-10 INTERCEPTOR & APS-104 PRE-SELECTOR
R-10 INTERCEPTOR: FREQUENCY RANGE - 30MHz TO 2ghZ
APS-104 PRE-SELECTOR: FREQUENCY RANGE 10 - 1000MHz CONTINUOUS
BOTH ARE BEING SOLD FOR  $625  ( about $1300 from OPTO )
E- MAIL IF INTERESTED   [e-mail]


From [e-mail] Thu Oct 03 14:36:53 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Bill Bergadano)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Looking for other NJ scanner nuts
Date: 30 Sep 1996 00:29:18 GMT
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Keywords: scanner
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I am looking for other scanner nuts in New Jersey, in particular in
Monmouth County that might be interested in trading frequencies. If you
are, please E-mail me!


From [e-mail] Thu Oct 03 14:36:54 1996
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From: Andy <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner,alt.radio.scanner
Subject: FS: PRO-51 Scanner
Date: Sun, 29 Sep 1996 20:42:19 -0500
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Hi!

I am selling my RS PRO-51 handheld scanner for $225. This price
includes:

   PRO-51 scanner
   Case Logic case
   Plug-in power adapter
   Shipping/Handling charges


This scanner is like-new. It has been in the box it came in for most of
the time I have had it, so it still has a clean appearance and
everything works properly with it. I have only used it *maybe* 10 times
in the last 2/3 years. So it really is like new.

I am asking $225, but I will take other offers since I am really wanting
to get rid of this. I am selling it because I have shifted my hobbies to
computing and music and I want to use the money to support those new
hobbies.

Thanks!


Andy Engle
[e-mail]


From [e-mail] Thu Oct 03 14:36:57 1996
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From: [e-mail](BAYCITVIDGRP)
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Subject: Re: Bill C. repost
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In <[e-mail]> Patrick Kelly <[e-mail]>
writes:
>
>Bill Cheek wrote:
>>
>> John Mackey KA0SSF <[e-mail]> wrote:
>>
>> >Sean Connor wrote:
>> >
>> >> Why can't you two just slag each other off by email?
>
>
>Why don't you guys take this crap somewhere else such as personal
e-mail
>>
>Unsubscribing.
>
>Pat
>
    Gee Pat....where is your sense of sensibilities residing?

    It's not as if they force themselves on you.  You just
    look at their addresses and then you look at subject matter
    and you know what is going to be the topic of your IRE.

    Do you know what a KILL FILE IS?

    You want info about scanning, then put the offensives in
     the KILLFILES and allow reality to continue.  You will
     not have to be tempted to "view them just to see if they
     have mended their ways" and then feel "abused" and
      "offended" because this week they choose not to be
     as you want them to be.

     Why not just be mature about it and acknowlege that the
      NET IS ANARCHY and your protest ain't going to change
      how the world works: adjust and grow and fit your
      reading needs to suit you as to what you don't want to
      be bothered with.

     Make a better world by eliminating the addresses you are
     offended by....it's your choice.  This way you cannot blame
      them ... that is a COP-OUT.

     bill conduit
     the ETC guy.


From [e-mail] Thu Oct 03 14:36:57 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Garry Hobart)
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Subject: Re: AMERICAN DOLLARS
Date: Mon, 30 Sep 1996 03:21:23 GMT
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On Sun, 29 Sep 1996 08:55:57 GMT, [e-mail] (Watcher5)
wrote:

>Help overturn the illegal Helms-Burton law.  Support the Florida ban!

Until you earn your own freedom, I would refrain form telling others
how to use theirs.

Garry
----------------------------------------------
Principles aren't of much account anyway, except at election time.
After that you hang them up to let them season.
Mark Twain (1835-1910)


From [e-mail] Thu Oct 03 14:36:58 1996
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From: "Andrew R. Gozdziewski" <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: alt.radio.scanner,rec.radio.scanner,rec.radio.shortwave
Subject: GMRS Antennas?
Date: Sun, 29 Sep 1996 21:22:26 -0600
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Does anyone know of any good GMRS antennas?  I would like a mobile car
type, but haven't had any luck finding any.  I would like a type with a
TNC connector.  Does anyone have a good one or can recommend a good one?

Thanks!

Andrew


From [e-mail] Thu Oct 03 14:36:59 1996
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From: [e-mail]
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[e-mail] (Marc Chabot) wrote:
>
>
>
>Hello.
>
>My friend have a PRO2032.  A morning he turns it on to listen in and
>nothing...  The scanner works ok, it's A1 except it receives nothing.
>NOTHING.  In all bands.  Even with the squelch at 0 on 162.5500 all it
>can hears is CHEETTTTT.
>
>All was verified and tried, antennas, connectors, reset button, etc.
>The scanner is deaf.  It scans and receives nothing.  Did you ever
>saw such a problem?  Help please...
>
Don't want to sound too much like a smart-ass, but yes...I have seen such
problems...and it means the scanner is broken and needs to be looked at by
a repair technician.




From [e-mail] Thu Oct 03 14:37:00 1996
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From: [e-mail](R. HART)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: York, Pa Freq's
Date: 30 Sep 1996 04:22:48 GMT
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I will be visiting out in York, Pa area over the next few weeks, I could
sure use some active freq's for that area. I listen to just about anything
but would really like to have the current Police, Fire, City Services, as
well as Schools, Local Biz, etc.  Any freq's will be of help.

Thanks,

 R.K. Hart

[e-mail]


From [e-mail] Thu Oct 03 14:37:01 1996
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Bill Cheek wrote:
>
> John Mackey KA0SSF <[e-mail]> wrote:
>
> >Sean Connor wrote:
> >
> >> Why can't you two just slag each other off by email? It would make life f
or
> >> the rest of us considerably more pleasant.
> >
> >I can't because he wrote my fido sysop telling him he doesn't want me
> >to write back to him even though he has continued writing to me at
> >my fido address.
>
> You lie like a rug, Mackey.


Why don't you guys take this crap somewhere else such as personal e-mail
(or just shut up) and have some consideration for the rest of users of
the group.  This back and forth shit over who is what and the like..if
you ask me the entire episodes take two assholes...one to comment and
another to respond.  In an attempt to piont the finger and make childish
accusations for weeks on end only points out what total assholes all
concerned truely are.  I for one don't need this crap...I have to put up
with assholes at work all day and the last thing I need is to deal with
them at home.

Unsubscribing.

Pat



From [e-mail] Thu Oct 03 14:37:02 1996
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From: [e-mail] (NYO41ed)
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Subject: Re: US Scanner News
Date: 30 Sep 1996 01:16:33 -0400
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yup


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From: [e-mail] (Bill Cheek)
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Subject: Re: Bill Cheek is an IDIOT was:Re: RG 59\U
Date: Mon, 30 Sep 1996 05:31:35 GMT
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John Mackey KA0SSF <[e-mail]> wrote:

>Bill Cheek wrote:
>
>> What would you LIKE for it to be?  Do you think we're done with
>> cables?  (Not.)  Your cousin just unloaded a bunch of silly stuff
>> about the effects of ultraviolet on cables.  Do you think he's right?
>
>Bill you are an idiot.
>
>The effects of UV on cables is not "a bunch of silly stuff".  It is a
>well >know established fact.  I am surprised that a "engineer" does not know
>this.

You know "old wive's tales".  I know the facts.  And the facts are
that the characteristic impedance, velocity factor, and loss factor of
a cable is not a function of the outer insulation.  Therefore, quite a
bit of weathering and damage can be incurred to the outer layers of a
cable without impacting its performance.

Like I said, RG-8, RG-8x, RG-59, RG-6, Belden 8214 and 9913 and many
other cables are well known to last 20-years or longer.  The only
conclusion is that your ham club and mentors have misindoctrinated
you............

Unless, of course, you'd care to state specifically what it is that
you think you know......and then we can deal with that.  Otherwise, it
stands that the vital characteristics of a cable are not significantly
dependent on the outer jacket so long as there is any integrity in the
first place.

The performance variables of a coaxial cable include the resistance
and inductance of the center conductor and shield; the parameters of
the dielectric insulation between the center conductor and shield; the
percent coverage of the shield; the diameter of the center conductor;
the inner diameter of the shield; the composition of the shield and
center conductor; and of course, the length of the cable.

Yes, Mr. Mackey, I am an engineer.  You are a bedpan changer for a
hospital.

<shrug>

Bill Cheek
Scannist Extraordinaire



From [e-mail] Thu Oct 03 14:37:04 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Saad)
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Subject: Q:Cell Freq.
Date: Mon, 30 Sep 1996 00:31:44 -0500
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Is it illegal to build a Down converter to receive the cell phone freq. on
a scanner and also sell it to the general public?


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From: [e-mail] (Bill Cheek)
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Subject: Re: RG 59\U
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John Mackey KA0SSF <[e-mail]> wrote:

>Bill Cheek wrote:
>
>> No kidding.  Makes ya wonder where this latest crop of Amateur Radio
>> Operators come from.........  Could it be they greased the palms of
>> the VE's?  Nahhhhhh.......couldn't be.........could it?
>
>At least they can demonstrate some kind of proof, as you have
>NEVER been able to demonstrate proof of your engineering degree
>or FCC commercial license.
>
>hahahahhahaah

You are so silly............



From [e-mail] Thu Oct 03 14:37:05 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Tomcat305)
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Subject: Ventura County!!!!
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Anybody that lives near or in Ventura County Please E-Mail me so we can
Exchange freqs.!!!


From [e-mail] Thu Oct 03 14:37:06 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Drew Durigan)
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Subject: Disney's 25th Anniversary...Freqs?
Date: 30 Sep 1996 13:20:49 GMT
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As I type this, there are between 4 and 10,000 media folks in town for
Disney's 25th Anniversary kickoff this week.

Lotsa scanner activity, I'm sure.  Anyone got some good frequencies?


-Drew in Sunny Central Florida-



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From: [e-mail] (Watcher5)
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Subject: Re: US vs. CAN (was AMERICAN DOLLARS)
Date: Mon, 30 Sep 1996 13:24:14 GMT
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[e-mail](Steve S) wrote:

>$1.8 billion Canadian is about $125 US, isn't it?

I believe the $1.8 billion was in U.S. money, but if it was Canadian
money, then at the current exchange rates, it would be about $1.29
billion U.S.  Still a major amount shithead!

>Since when did the US care about International Law?  We don't bow to
>the UN like some "other" nations I know of. (Hell, we're even late
>paying our membership dues!)

When?  How about never?  That is why your fucking country is so
despised throughout the world.  Speaking of those dues, how about
doing the right thing for once and paying your debts?  Maybe you'll
earn bonus points next year when the U.N. does its best country to
live in survey and you'll actually make it into the top 10!

>Don't look now, but several thousand Canadians are getting real health
>care in US facilities by pig-headed US doctors.

Don't look now, but every Canadian is getting real health care in
Canadian facilities.  So it takes a little longer.  At least we don't
have people being turned away at our ER's just because they don't have
insurance!

>And GM, Ford, and Chrysler were nice enough to let you build several
>cars and keep them in your country (but not the profits).  I think I'll
>just go down to my local Canadian car dealer and picket.....oops, can
>find one, sorry.

So nice in fact that you can buy a car in Canada cheaper than you can
in the U.S. (even after the exchange rate)!

>Those with nukes make the rules.  If we don't let an independant Panama
>hamper our passage down there, do you think some colony of Great
>Britain is going to influence us?

Excuse me, but Canada ceased being a colony of Great Britain in 1867.
Canada is an independent country just as you are.  So our head of
state is the Queen.  She's mainly just a figurehead.  We make our own
laws and they get royal ascent by her representative, the Governor
General.  This is simply a rubber stamping.  The Queen to my knowledge
has never opposed any of the laws we have created.  If you use that
logic to imply that we're still a colony of Great Britain, then I
guess Australia is too?

>At least we can legally own guns.  And I'd like to see an Anglo-phone
>going walking in Montreal after dark singing "God save the queen".

Better get the facts straight shithead.  Canadians can legally own
guns.  They just have to go through quite a bit of paperwork and
background checking before they can get one.  Sure, we have stricter
gun control laws than you do, but then again, we don't have even 1% of
the drive-by shootings you do!  I'm sure if your forefathers had seen
what a mess they made by giving you a constitutional right to bear
arms, they never would have given it to you in the first place.




For a country that wanted to get away from England so bad, you guys
still want to hold onto it though.  You insist on using the old
"Imperial" method of measurement, you national anthem's music is from
a British drinking song, and one of your national songs (I believe
it's America the Beautiful (what a joke there!)) uses the same music
for "God Save the Queen/King".

Help overturn the illegal Helms-Burton law.  Support the Florida ban!


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From: [e-mail] (Hugh Duff)
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Subject: Re: Electronic Definitions
Date: Mon, 30 Sep 1996 13:33:32 GMT
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[e-mail] (Bill Cheek) wrote:

>[e-mail] (Hugh Duff) wrote:

>BC>> But I noticed that the signal goes through *another* buffer that
>BC>> outputs at Pin 14 which is dead-ended - it's not used!  This is
>BC>> where we attach the short "antenna" wire to radiate some of
>BC>>  X-301's 10 MHz signal to the antenna of the the shortwave
>BC>>  receiver where it mixes with the WWV signal.

>>( This procedure is called "Zero Beating". )

>Not necessarily.  That's a colloquial term, generally accepted by all

Yes...Necessarily !
Bullshit aside, thats what the procedure is called in the industry.


>>For Gosh sakes folks...AC couple the antenna to the chip using a low
>>value (.01 uf or so) disc capacitor.  All you need is a blown PLL chip !

>Oh geezus, Mr. Duff, you still have to touch the chip to do that,
>and a capacitor will not stop a static discharge anyway.  So that's a
>silly extra step that's not at all necessary....especially since that
>particular pin in an unused, unloaded output.  It does not need a
>capacitor at all..........


Well, "Don't try this at home" is what I really should have said.


>>The 145158 is a CMOS device...do we need to go thru this again ?

>Don't go through it at all.  The chip isn't going to blow.  There are

Okay...suit yourself !   CMOS is bullet proof and hanging antenna
wires off an open ended pin is quite acceptable in your
eyes...Motorola (the OEM of the MC145158) claims otherwise
and people in the know wouldn't try it.

Yes, powered up electronics is more resilient to static discharge.
Yes, diodes on the i/o pins of CMOS parts HELPS.
They still package CMOS parts in anti-static bags and rails.
Those handeling CMOS parts should use grounding straps and anti-static
mats.
Yes, CMOS parts are still to be treated with care against static.
Connecting a long wire onto one is an open invitation for possible
future trouble.

>No matter.....but what you don't know is that I developed this
>procedure and sent it out for wide beta testing SEVERAL YEARS AGO.
>This recalibration procedure for X-301 in the PRO-2004/5/6 is nothing
>new, Mr. Duff.  It is time-honored and proved.  Field proved.

Your "developed procedure" more approprately labelled "adaptation"
is older than the antique equipment in your photo.
You developed nothing...just applied it to the scanners.

>>>is an error between the two.  The S-Meter will "jiggle" at the error

>>"Jiggle" ?       (Beat)

>Ummmm, yeah....., but to the uninitiated, "jiggle" is much more
>definitive and to the point.  Succinct.  Meaningful.

>Again, it is not very important WHAT something is called.  In fact,
>"names" can be very confusing, depending on the audience and who's
>talking.  We could devote an entire topic thread to electronic terms
>and definitions.......and never get into any hands-on.  And bore the
>hell out of people.

Never mind the bullshit.
You may speak and write as a hobbiest. Best to call a spade a spade.
At least SOUND like a professional.

>The adjustment of X-301 in the PRO-2004/5/6 is a hands-on process, and
>one that can be done by most anyone.  My article showed how to do it.
>And it's been done exactly as I described for over four years.  People
>have not blown the chip or encountered any other difficulties.  Track
>record, Mr. Duff.  History.  Four years of it.

As luck would be on thier side.
Like golfing in a thunderstorm with  9 iron in hand...many have never
been hit by lightening but most know better.


>Meanwhile, take a seat and pay atttention.  You might learn something.

Nothing to be learned from a person who refuses to acknowledge and
respect the handeling precautions of CMOS electronics.

>One of the many things I do very well (thank you) is communicate high
>technology to the lay person.....to the dude who barely knows a

Perhaps your forte' and not electronics itself !?  :)-

>resistor from a resister.  I communicate in the vernacular so that the
>ordinary dude can roll up his sleeves and get right to work without
>stumbling over terms, acronyms, and vague or unfamiliar expressions.
>The alternative is to post a glossary along with each article, but

The alternative is to educate the good people as to the correct
teminology even after the use of analogous means of conveying the
message.

>that would be silly and a waste of time.  I dispense with the glossary

I wouldn't be so bold as to make such assumptions about the
general public and scanning enthusiasts in particular.
They are a lot more knowlegeable and interested than they used to be.

>that wouldn't be read anyway and cut to the chase with meat 'n taters.
>Something you'd do well to master.............
>Bill Cheek
>(Wannabe) Telecommunications Engineer


My last comment is that a reasonably calibrated hobby grade frequency
counter is suitable for making the not so necessary oscillator
adjustment. Even at a difference of a few hundred Hertz, it is hardly
detectable in AM and FM.  Why would somebody need to calibrate the
osc. to a degree of accuracy that is not necessary ?
You're the one that insists that it is "layman" hobbiests who you are
dealing with not lab technicians seeking high resolution accuracy.

Intrusional risky methods of calibration certainly don't outwiegh the
conventional use of a Radio Shack or OptoElectronics frequency counter
in my books...especially in this case.

Hugh Duff  VA3TO  Toronto
Not pretending to be an Enginener !

(Anticipating more forged e-mail replies after pissing off ol' Billy!
:)





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[e-mail] (Bill Cheek) wrote:

>[e-mail] (Hugh Duff) wrote:

>BC>> But I noticed that the signal goes through *another* buffer that
>BC>> outputs at Pin 14 which is dead-ended - it's not used!  This is
>BC>> where we attach the short "antenna" wire to radiate some of
>BC>>  X-301's 10 MHz signal to the antenna of the the shortwave
>BC>>  receiver where it mixes with the WWV signal.

>>( This procedure is called "Zero Beating". )

>Not necessarily.  That's a colloquial term, generally accepted by all

Yes...Necessarily !
Bullshit aside, thats what the procedure is called in the industry.


>>For Gosh sakes folks...AC couple the antenna to the chip using a low
>>value (.01 uf or so) disc capacitor.  All you need is a blown PLL chip !

>Oh geezus, Mr. Duff, you still have to touch the chip to do that,
>and a capacitor will not stop a static discharge anyway.  So that's a
>silly extra step that's not at all necessary....especially since that
>particular pin in an unused, unloaded output.  It does not need a
>capacitor at all..........


Well, "Don't try this at home" is what I really should have said.


>>The 145158 is a CMOS device...do we need to go thru this again ?

>Don't go through it at all.  The chip isn't going to blow.  There are

Okay...suit yourself !   CMOS is bullet proof and hanging antenna
wires off an open ended pin is quite acceptable in your
eyes...Motorola (the OEM of the MC145158) claims otherwise
and people in the know wouldn't try it.

Yes, powered up electronics is more resilient to static discharge.
Yes, diodes on the i/o pins of CMOS parts HELPS.
They still package CMOS parts in anti-static bags and rails.
Those handeling CMOS parts should use grounding straps and anti-static
mats.
Yes, CMOS parts are still to be treated with care against static.
Connecting a long wire onto one is an open invitation for possible
future trouble.

>No matter.....but what you don't know is that I developed this
>procedure and sent it out for wide beta testing SEVERAL YEARS AGO.
>This recalibration procedure for X-301 in the PRO-2004/5/6 is nothing
>new, Mr. Duff.  It is time-honored and proved.  Field proved.

Your "developed procedure" more appropriately labelled "adaptation"
is older than the antique equipment in your photo.
You developed nothing...just applied it to the scanners.

>>>is an error between the two.  The S-Meter will "jiggle" at the error

>>"Jiggle" ?       (Beat)

>Ummmm, yeah....., but to the uninitiated, "jiggle" is much more
>definitive and to the point.  Succinct.  Meaningful.

>Again, it is not very important WHAT something is called.  In fact,
>"names" can be very confusing, depending on the audience and who's
>talking.  We could devote an entire topic thread to electronic terms
>and definitions.......and never get into any hands-on.  And bore the
>hell out of people.

Never mind the bullshit.
You may speak and write as a hobbiest. Best to call a spade a spade.
At least SOUND like a professional.

>The adjustment of X-301 in the PRO-2004/5/6 is a hands-on process, and
>one that can be done by most anyone.  My article showed how to do it.
>And it's been done exactly as I described for over four years.  People
>have not blown the chip or encountered any other difficulties.  Track
>record, Mr. Duff.  History.  Four years of it.

As luck would be on thier side.
Like golfing in a thunderstorm with  9 iron in hand...many have never
been hit by lightening but most know better.


>Meanwhile, take a seat and pay atttention.  You might learn something.

Nothing to be learned from a person who refuses to acknowledge and
respect the handeling precautions of CMOS electronics.

>One of the many things I do very well (thank you) is communicate high
>technology to the lay person.....to the dude who barely knows a

Perhaps your forte' and not electronics itself !?  :)-

>resistor from a resister.  I communicate in the vernacular so that the
>ordinary dude can roll up his sleeves and get right to work without
>stumbling over terms, acronyms, and vague or unfamiliar expressions.
>The alternative is to post a glossary along with each article, but

The alternative is to educate the good people as to the correct
teminology even after the use of analogous means of conveying the
message.

>that would be silly and a waste of time.  I dispense with the glossary

I wouldn't be so bold as to make such assumptions about the
general public and scanning enthusiasts in particular.
They are a lot more knowlegeable and interested than they used to be.

>that wouldn't be read anyway and cut to the chase with meat 'n taters.
>Something you'd do well to master.............
>Bill Cheek
>(Wannabe) Telecommunications Engineer


My last comment is that a reasonably calibrated hobby grade frequency
counter is suitable for making the not so necessary oscillator
adjustment. Even at a difference of a few hundred Hertz, it is hardly
detectable in AM and FM.  Why would somebody need to calibrate the
osc. to a degree of accuracy that is not necessary ?
You're the one that insists that it is "layman" hobbiests who you are
dealing with not lab technicians seeking high resolution accuracy.

Intrusional risky methods of calibration certainly don't outwiegh the
conventional use of a Radio Shack or OptoElectronics frequency counter
in my books...especially in this case.

Hugh Duff  VA3TO  Toronto
Not pretending to be an Engineer !

(Anticipating more forged e-mail replies after pissing off ol' Billy!
:)





From [e-mail] Thu Oct 03 14:37:13 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Tim Moore)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Pro-51 scanner
Date: 30 Sep 1996 14:17:00 GMT
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I have a Radio Shack Pro-51 scanner. Does anybody know if there is any
way to get it to scan other bands that it can't now receive? Any mods
for this unit??

--
Tim Moore [e-mail]
09/30/96 09:53
Transmitting LIVE from
Fredericksburg, VA




From [e-mail] Thu Oct 03 14:37:15 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Bob Parnass, AJ9S)
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 Last changed: September 18, 1996                             |

              Add a Plectron or Motorola Alert
             Crystal Controlled Monitor Receiver
                 to Your Scanner Collection

                    by Bob Parnass, AJ9S

  [NOTE:  This article may not be reproduced in whole or  in
 part   on   CDROMS,   in   bulletin  boards,  networks,  or
 publications which charge for service without permission of
 the author.]

 In the 1960s and 1970s, thousands of firemen and  ambulance
 squad members came to rely on their transistor Plectron and
 Motorola monitor receivers.  They have now been replaced by
 portable pagers, and are often available at hamfests in the
 $5 - $25 range.  Since many are in rough condition and need
 repair,  a  hamfest  special is better suited for hobbyists
 who like to fix their own radios.

 Plectron and  Motorola  crystal  controlled  receivers  are
 excellent  for dedicated monitoring of local frequencies --
 a task for which you wouldn't  want  to  tie  up  your  400
 channel  programmable  scanner.   They  can be powered from
 117VAC or 12VDC with the proper  mobile  cord.   The  audio
 quality of a Plectron P1, Plectron 700 series, and Motorola
 Alert Monitor is far better than any consumer grade scanner
 and the sensitivity, image rejection, and intermod immunity
 is outstanding when aligned properly.

 The Plectron and Motorola Alert monitors  are  single  band
 receivers:  VHF-low,  VHF-high, or UHF.  No single Plectron
 or Motorola Alert monitor can cover the  entire  30-50  MHz
 band,  so there were versions optimized for each portion of
 the VHF-low band. There were different  versions  to  cover
 low  and high "splits" in the VHF-high band, too.  Although
 UHF versions were made, they are somewhat rare and coverage
 is limited to 470 MHz and below.

 Plectron made  several  models  with  dozens  of  different
 options.   Both  the  original  P1 and later 700 series are
 suitable for restoration, although I prefer the  newer  700
 models.    The   Plectron  500  "economy"  series  is  less
 desirable.

 The P1 series have black cabinets  with  a  blue-green  and
 silver  color  scheme  used  on the front panel.  They were
 made in the Chief (tone decoder & carrier squelch),  Patrol
 (carrier squelch only), and Sentry (tone only) models.  The
 Sentry models lack a carrier squelch and therefore  are  of
 little use to hobbyists except for scavenging parts.  Model
 number and frequency information appears on a gummed  label
 on the rear panel:


            Band (MHz)   Chief   Patrol   Sentry
            ____________________________________
                 25-54   R19     R15      R17
               148-174   R20     R16      R18
               450-470   R23     R21      R22

                TABLE 1.  Plectron P1 models


 The R700 series have black cabinets with brown front panels
 and are slightly smaller than the P1 receivers.  R700s were
 made in the Chief (tone  decoder  &  carrier  squelch)  and
 Patrol (carrier squelch only) models:

                 Band (MHz)   Chief   Patrol
                 ___________________________
                      25-54   R719    R715
                    148-174   R720    R716
                    450-470   R723    R721

               TABLE 2.  Plectron 700 models


 The Plectron FM Receiver/Recorder is  a  collector's  item.
 It  is essentially a 700 series Chief receiver with a built
 in  cassette  tape  recorder.   The  recorder  is   carrier
 activated  and can tape transmissions while the receiver is
 unattended.  A connector on the rear panel allows  for  all
 kinds of remote control possibilities.

 I use two Plectron P1s and four R700s in  my  living  room,
 seven  R700s  down  the basement, and several Plectrons and
 Alert Monitors stored in reserve.  The  basement  Plectrons
 are  turned on automatically when someone walks downstairs.
 Power to them is controlled by a modified Radio Shack  Safe
 House  infrared  motion  detector,  originally  sold  as an
 intrusion alarm.

 When a rescue  squad  member  from  Missouri  advertised  a
 number  of Plectrons on USENET, I bought them -- all 20+ of
 them.  I cleaned, fixed,  and  restored  each  one.   After
 recrystalling them on local frequencies, I distributed them
 to members of my scanner club who were glad to get them.

 Both  brands  of  receiver  require  special  crystals.   I
 sometimes  use  Radio  Shack's generic 3rd overtone scanner
 crystals in the Plectrons but they oscillate on frequencies
 far away from their marked frequencies.  That's because the
 Plectron oscillator is designed to be used with  a  crystal
 which   oscillates   on   its  fundamental,  not  overtone,
 frequency.

 AC power cords for  both  types  of  receivers  use  unique
 connectors  and  are scarce.  You can buy them new but it's
 much cheaper to drill a hole on the rear panel and attach a
 permanent a power cord.  Make sure you use a grommet in the
 hole to prevent the metal chassis  from  chafing  the  line
 cord.

 Many Plectrons and Alert Monitors  were  equipped  with  an
 internal  NiCd battery pack, intended to power the receiver
 if the AC power fails.  It's unusual to find a used monitor
 receiver  with  the  NiCd  pack  still capable of holding a
 charge.  More often, the batteries have died and the series
 charging  resistor  has  overheated and burned.  Be sure to
 remove the dead batteries as they often leak.

 If you  find  the  squelch  on  your  Plectron  700  series
 receiver  has  too  much  hysteresis,  replace  R96, a 180K
 resistor, with a 560K resistor.  On the P1, the resistor is
 designated R81.

 I have not used the Plectron tone alerting  features  so  I
 cannot  address  that  except to say that the special coils
 and capacitors for the dual tone decoders vary depending on
 the  tone frequencies and are somewhat difficult to obtain.
 Repair service for the  Plectron  P1  and  R700  models  is
 offered by:


                 Woodson Electronics
                 Plectron Place
                 P.O. Box 960
                 Imboden, Arkansas 72434

                 telephone [phone]

 Some replacement parts are currently available from Federal
 Signal  in  University  Park, IL, phone [phone].  You  |
 can also get Plectron repairs and parts from:                |


                  Northeast Communications                    |
                  4 Oak Ridge Rd                              |
                  Newfoundland NJ 07435                       |
                  201-697-8804                                |

 Alert Monitor parts are  available  from  Motorola.   Phone
 [phone].

 I currently have no Plectrons or  Motorola  Alert  Monitors
 for sale.  I'm hoarding them. :-)

--
==============================================================================
Copyright 1996, Bob Parnass, AJ9S                        [e-mail]

        Locate & identify transmitters in your area with RadioMap(tm)


From [e-mail] Thu Oct 03 14:37:16 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Bill Cheek)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Antenna Preamps
Date: Mon, 30 Sep 1996 16:28:40 GMT
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[e-mail] (Dennis Smith) wrote:

>Does anyone have experience with antenna preamps for scanners?

Yes.

> Are they worthwhile?

Generally speaking, no.

>I Have seen the GRE and ACE GW2 units advertised. Are either of
>those two units any good, or are there better units on the market?

The best of the bunch is the J.I.M. series (M-75, M-100, M-200) sold
by EEB/EDCO in Vienna, VA.

In general, however, preamps tend to raise the noise floor of the
receiver; lower the dynamic range; overload the sensitive front end;
and cause more problems than they resolve.  There are times when they
can perform the intended purpose, but those times are not the rule;
rather more the exception.

Bill Cheek
Scannist Extraordinaire



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From: Old Sarge <[e-mail]>
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Jim Wayda wrote:
>
> Do not buy a CB Linear amplifier. You could be fined by the FCC and
> also serve jail time. It is not worth it.
>
> Jim Wayda


Yeah, right.  Just like, oh no, don't listen in to cell phone calls or
portable phone calls or Big Brother will surely get you.

Sure, CB amps have been illegal for decades, and I DO mean decades as I
was into CB back in the early 60's when 5 watts was the norm.  The FCC,
due to budget cuts and disinterest, has abandoned almost entirely,
enforcing the CB rules and regulations.  It's not manageable anymore.
They appear to be focusing on the big time violators with large
overpowered stations that just won't quit and pushing RF's into every
home within a mile or two.

As for have a little "pusher" attached to your mobile unit or base
station for those times the jerks won't cut their own power, I
personally see nothing wrong with it as along as you do not cause
interference to your neighbor's TV or other electronic devices.

I had a 400 Watter once and every time I fired it up (tubes had to warm
up first), the lights in my apartment would dim almost out and I burned
up my cheap antenna.

Before people start jumping on what's illegal or not, look at your
scanner radio and see if it's able to monitor cell phone frequencies.
If it can, YOU are also illegal.  So leave it alone unless it personally
bothers you or interferes with your quality of life, if you have a life
at all.
--
*********************************************************
Rich Greene E-7 USA Ret - http://www.wolfenet.com/~rich
Mailhandler, USPS Seattle - [e-mail]
*********************************************************


From [e-mail] Thu Oct 03 14:37:19 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Bill Cheek)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: RG 59\U
Date: Mon, 30 Sep 1996 16:51:23 GMT
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[e-mail] (David Bernazzani) wrote:

>True.  The loss is only about 1.5:1 - still very respectable
>especially compared to the gain you get from using the better cable.
>In practice, on any antenna system I've dealt with you aren't going to
>have below about 1.2:1 and even that varies through the band you are
>working with.  The 1.5:1 makes little difference in transmit and
>probably won't affect receive that you could tell the difference.
>
>However, 2 things:
>
>(1) Why not use RG8X cable?  It's 50 Ohms so it matches well (although
>we have already determined that is not a big deal) and it is
>reasonably cheap (less than $20 for about 50 feet).  It's better than
>RG58 but not as expensive (or loss-free) as pure RG8U.  Is the 75-Ohm
>RG59 that much lower-loss and cost effective?

Yes. Here are the loss factors per 100-ft for cables at 1000 MHz:

RG-58           22   dB  Hobbyist
RG-8x           13   dB    grade
RG-8            12   dB      coaxial
RG-59           11   dB        cables
RG-6             8.5 dB
Belden 8214      7   dB
Belden 9913      4.5 dB
========================================
Andrew LDF2-50A  3.5 dB  Commercial
Andrew LDF4-50A  2.3 dB    Grade
Andrew LDF5-50A  1.5 dB       Cables

The Andrew cables are "hardline" and not generally suited for
hobbyists due to expense of not only the cable, but also the special
connectors that are required.

>(2) I see some bashing of the Amateur Radio community from time to
>time here in this forum.

I don't.  I do make references to certain hams who come off as being
professionals, though.

>If someone with an FCC amateur license makes
>an incorrect assumption or gives bad information then some assume the
>FCC amateur program failed to do it's job teaching the licensee.

Well, not really.  It's more a matter of the casual assumption that
all hams are highly trained pro's.....most untrue.

>Or worse, some may claim that the whole program is just a joke to begin with.

Oh, no....not me, anyway.  Hams pretty well single-handedly developed
radio for what it is today.  It's just that a lot of radio pro's are
also hams....which helps.

>Not that I care what everyone thinks about the FCC amateur program,
>but I just got my license this year and it was not so that I would
>know everything there is to know about the radio art.  We all realize
>that the piece of paper is not the knowledge source.

Some don't realize that. Those folks think it's the paper that counts.
That is the problem.

>Oh... sorry about the soapbox and all.

No problem here.  Ain't a thing wrong with a soapboax so long as it
doesn't crush under your weight.

:-)

Bill Cheek
Scannist Extraordinaire



From [e-mail] Thu Oct 03 14:37:19 1996
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From: "G.D DICKSON" <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: PRO-25 Pro's and Cons HELP!!
Date: 30 Sep 1996 17:20:13 GMT
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i am thinking of purchasing a Realistic Pro-25 h/h scanner.
anyone out there know how good they are....

or would i be better buying something like the newer Pro-62


replies via email pls. and thanks in advance for any replies.


Geoff


[e-mail]


From [e-mail] Thu Oct 03 14:37:20 1996
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From: [e-mail] (chainsaw)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Regency MX4000??? How to program??
Date: Mon, 30 Sep 1996 22:56:25 GMT
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[e-mail] (chainsaw) wrote:

>Hi,I picked one of these up cheap
>with no manual.
>How do you program this scanner?
>The setup seems to be very weird!
>  Thanxx

Still wondering.
  Thanxx!!



From [e-mail] Thu Oct 03 14:37:21 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Bob Zito)
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Subject: FS/FT AOR AR-2515 Scanner in excellent condition now $349.00 + Shipping
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AOR AR-2515 Scanner in excellent condition now $349.00 + Shipping OR
Trade for Dual-band (2m/70 cm mobile tranmceiver OR 1.2 Ghz/220
tranceiver)
 Following specs:
 AOR-AR3000A style case/display/keypad
 Full Cellular enabled
 Priority feature
 Copy data from log or Frequency to Banks
 Link all banks together or group> 12 Vdc input
 120 Vac adapter included
 Modes
   Narrow FM
   Wide FM
   AM
  Search Increments
    5 kHz
    12.5 kHz
    25 kHz
  2000 Memories
 15 programmable Search banks
  5-1500 Mhz
 10-segment LED signal strenth meter as well as recorded in software
 10 db attenuation switch
 Triple conversion
  Lock
  Backlight
  RS232 Computer interface
     DOS Software included!
     Load-up all memories from computer
     Load-up computer Software from Scanner memories
     All functions controllable by software
     Software works with commen Frequency databases
     Spectrum Analyzer in software
     Bank Maintainance in software
     Frequency Database with descriptions in software
     Print Bank & Frequency Lists
     Link/Unlink banks from software
     Cable included!
<[e-mail]> (Bob Zito) KI7EV WA. State


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nrhblack ([e-mail]) wrote:
: Ham radio is authorized by Federal Law which overrides State law.  Ham
: radio installations do not need to be certified.

: Henry Black P.E.  KK6JR, G4NOC

Keep in mind that while states do not regulate radio, they most
definitely regulate what you may do while operating your automobile!
Perhaps that's what this is about.
--
John Miller, N4VU                My employer pays me handsomely for my
[e-mail]               opinions, and I'll be darned if I'm going to
Fayetteville, GA                 let any of the good ones escape onto the net!


From [e-mail] Thu Oct 03 14:37:23 1996
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From: [e-mail](Steve S)
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Subject: Re: GMRS Antennas?
Date: 30 Sep 1996 23:08:29 GMT
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In <[e-mail]> "Andrew R. Gozdziewski"
<[e-mail]> writes:
>
>Does anyone know of any good GMRS antennas?  I would like a mobile car
>type, but haven't had any luck finding any.  I would like a type with
>TNC connector.  Does anyone have a or can recommend a good one?
>
>Thanks!
>Andrew

Andrew,
    Call Larsen Antennas at 1-800-426-1656 and ask for a catalog.  They
have a wide selection of mobile and base antennas. Or, you can do like
I did and visit your nearest commercial 2-way radio shop and see what's
in stock.  I'm running an Antenna Specialist 455-470 MHz NMO-connector
5/8 over 1/2 collinear mobile with 4-5 dbi gain.  I can reach 5 miles
and more to my home base with 2 watts in a suburban environment.  My
base antenna is 17 feet high.

Steve
KAF8111


From [e-mail] Thu Oct 03 14:37:24 1996
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From: [e-mail](Joseph B Goldman)
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Subject: BC3000XLT
Date: 30 Sep 1996 23:21:16 GMT
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I'm a 'newbee'.
I would appreciate any advice,.....pros & cons
About the UNIDEN BC3000XLT for a first scanner.
I can get it for about $360 new.
I don't even know if this is a good price.
Do youall have a 'CHAT' place?
It sports 20 ..... 20 channels.
which is good for my purposes but what about the rest?
Is there a 'Jumper' I need to know about ?
Please E-Mail answers.
THANKS ALOT, AHEAD OF TIME !
joe


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In article <[e-mail]>, Old Sarge <[e-mail]
.net> writes:
>...
>
> Before people start jumping on what's illegal or not, look at your
> scanner radio and see if it's able to monitor cell phone frequencies.
> If it can, YOU are also illegal.  So leave it alone unless it personally
> bothers you or interferes with your quality of life, if you have a life
> at all.
> --
> *********************************************************
> Rich Greene E-7 USA Ret - http://www.wolfenet.com/~rich
> Mailhandler, USPS Seattle - [e-mail]
> *********************************************************

Wrong.  It's not usually illegal to own a scanner capable of receiving
cell phone calls as long as it was made before the ban took effect.  It
IS illegal in general to listen to cell phone calls no matter if the
scanner is legal or not.  It is illegal in general to manufacture new
scanners capable of receiving cell phone frequencies.

--
Mickey McInnis - [e-mail]
--
All opinions expressed are my own opinions, not my company's opinions.


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On Sun, 29 Sep 1996 10:08:23 GMT, [e-mail] (Bill Cheek) wrote:

>So how does one obtain the "codes"?  I know for a fact that the PROBE
>doode swears he won't give it out.  For their own security, I'd assume
>the others won't either.

 Legally, the software companies cannot 'give out' the codes. The
codes are supposedly only available to those that are authorized to
monitor those frequencies by law. This includes the government among
others. All this means that the person requesting the codes is to
verify that they are actually authorized to have such. As I am not so
authorized, I did not have the code but with a bit of searching on the
Web, I came up with one in about 20 minutes. In fact, several
weeks(months?) ago, there was a message thread here concerning the
very same thing. Someone actually posted the code in one message.
>
>Actually, it's not "cellular".  It's more that the radio spectrum
>includes 868.950 - 894.000 MHz and 823.950 - 849.000 MHz, and the
>conspicuous absense of those bands is unnerving to many free-thinking
>scannists.  Imagine a "hole" in the middle of your 550 - 1600 kHz AM
>dial after having been continuous tuning there for years and years.
>
I know what you mean here. I feel the same. It's just that with the
current usage of the bands, I have no interest in those areas. This
doesn't mean that next year I will feel the same. That is also the
reason that 3 of my 4 scanners(AR1000, Pro-2005 and Pro-2035 with 2042
guts) have full coverage.



From [e-mail] Thu Oct 03 14:37:27 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Don Ritchie)
Newsgroups: alt.radio.scanner,rec.radio.scanner,rec.radio.shortwave
Subject: Re: GMRS Antennas?
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Date: 1 Oct 1996 00:36:27 GMT
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Andrew R. Gozdziewski ([e-mail]) wrote:
: Does anyone know of any good GMRS antennas?  I would like a mobile car
: type, but haven't had any luck finding any.  I would like a type with a
: TNC connector.  Does anyone have a good one or can recommend a good one?
:
: Thanks!
:
: Andrew
What radio are you using that has a TNC?
You should have little trouble finding GMRS Antennas, as GMRS is
462.550 - 462.725 ( outputs/simplex )
467.550 - 467.725 ( repeater inputs )
and com'l business is on eather side of GMRS, so A/S, Antennex, Larson
and many others make com'l business band antennas.

Free advice is worth every penny you paid for it !


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From [e-mail] Thu Oct 03 14:37:28 1996
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From: Jason
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: I can find any Freqs you need
Date: 1 Oct 1996 01:13:42 GMT
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Please post any question here and i will answer as soon
as possible



I have freqs you need for the following states

MD   DE

VA   NC

FL   SC

GE   PEN

NJ   D.C

W.V


For the following  services


Marine

Phones all types

Taxis and Towing

Railroad

Air

Tv

Power and Water

Bussiness

and many more



From [e-mail] Thu Oct 03 14:37:29 1996
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From: Charles Uibel <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: PRO-25 Pro's and Cons HELP!!
Date: Mon, 30 Sep 1996 18:19:07 -0700
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G.D DICKSON wrote:
>
> i am thinking of purchasing a Realistic Pro-25 h/h scanner.
> anyone out there know how good they are....
>
> or would i be better buying something like the newer Pro-62
>
> replies via email pls. and thanks in advance for any replies.
>
> Geoff
>
> [e-mail] have a pro25 and I like it a lot.
It goes from 30 mhz to 960 mhz.
Tehcnically, it is not supposed to get cellular, but it does.

Mine has a 2 year warranty and I've had it for 6 months.
I'm sure you've read the specs, so I won't elaborate.
If not I can send them to you.

I like it so much that I want to spend about $500 for a new one.
I've really gotten into it.
So I'm looking to sell mine for $125. It retails for $269 I think.

It pulls in lots of frequencies

-chuck


From [e-mail] Thu Oct 03 14:37:30 1996
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From: Jim Finney <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Vertical Antenna
Date: Mon, 30 Sep 1996 21:37:34 -0400
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Hello,

Does anyone have any experience or an opinion on the Radio shack vertical scan
ner antenna,
part # 20-014 (page 43 in the 1997 catalog)?

Thanks,

Jim...

-----------------------------------------------------
Jim Finney
[e-mail]
http://users.southeast.net/~jpf
Jacksonville, Florida
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From: [e-mail]
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: WTB scanner handheld w/cell
Date: 1 Oct 1996 01:47:27 GMT
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I need a scanner will buy or trade.

big



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Subject: WTB scanner handheld w/cell
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I need a scanner buy or trade.

big



From [e-mail] Thu Oct 03 14:37:32 1996
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From: Thomas Crist <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: FS: Cheep tone activated switches
Date: Mon, 30 Sep 1996 21:53:52 -0400
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My mail server was down so it you replied previously, try again!


I have 6 Plectron tone activated switches for sale.  They were used to
activate fire sirens but could be adapted to whatever.  They operate on
46.46 MHz and use 12 vdc or 120 vac.  Any questions e-mail
[e-mail].

Tom


From [e-mail] Thu Oct 03 14:37:33 1996
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From: [e-mail] (F. Barry Mulligan)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Just the FAQ
Date: 1 Oct 1996 01:56:16 GMT
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"Tod Ryal" <[e-mail]> asked for:
> ... the location .... of the FAQ for rec.radio.scanner.

ftp://rtfm.mit.edu/pub/usenet-by-group/rec.radio.scanner
    Buying_a_Used_Scanner_Radio
    FCC_License_Data_Sources
    How_to_Find_Scanner_Frequencies
    Improve_the_Squelch_in_Your_Monitor_Receiver
    Introduction_to_Scanning
    Repair_Tips_for_Bearcat_Scanner_Radios

ftp://oak.oakland.edu/pub/hamradio/docs/misc
    fcc.allocations  Summary of the FCC Table of Freq. Allocations
    scanner.faf      Frequently Asked Frequencies for Scanners

                                                         /* barry /&


From [e-mail] Thu Oct 03 14:37:35 1996
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From: John Mackey KA0SSF <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Credentials
Date: Mon, 30 Sep 1996 18:56:46 -0700
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Bill Cheek wrote:

> Well, the best YOU can do is state a set of call letters.  My degrees
> do not confer anything resembling a call sign.  Neither does my 1st
> FCC Phone with Ship Radar Endorsement.

**BUT** your commercial (FCC phone) would have a "license number"
rather than a callsign.  EVERY Radiotelephone (or telegraph too) issued
by the FCC has a license number.  Due to slight differences, your
license
number may be listed in different locations.  On my General
Radiotelephone
(which it what replaces BOTH the First & Second class radiotelephone)
the
license number is right above where I signed my name.

Acutally Billy, that is why I think you are lying about having
a FCC Radiotelephone license because they made that change about 10
years ago (maybe more) at the same time they made the license
lifetime.  So you would now have a General Radiotelephone if you
actually ever had one to begin with AND kept it current AND it was not
revoked in that little BUST the FCC made on you with your illegal high
power CB fiasco.


  So it would be kind of
> difficult to "demonstrate" it.

Bull, just give the license number OR scan it & post it to the NG
like I did your postcard.


> As it is....I stated mine.....

No you have never given anything to support it.


> Now the thing is......your hambone ticket and my degrees and
> professional licenses put together along with five bucks *might* get
> us a bus ride somewhere in the San Diego region.

You're right there.  Even my commercial license & my degree does
not make a good tech (or engineer), it takes just plain knowledge &
ability.  You have no arguement from me there.


> Time will be the test, though.  For example, as people look at their
> coax that's been out in the sun for the last 10-20 years and see that
> its integrity is still intact....

The integrity would be shit if they were using RG-8, RG-58, 9913, &
similar.  Only 213 & 214 are UV resistant.


> Sooooooo, Mister John Mackey, let's you and me get down  and do some
> technical jousting for REAL.  Not insults and slander; rather nitty
> gritty technology where......I will clean your clock; sharpen your

HEHEHEEHHEHEEHHEHEHEEHHEHEEHEHEHEHe

You're such a comedian Billy!!!!


> Your ONLY claim to fame is to play dirty.

You mean like you, constantly lying & telling half-truths?


> <giggle>  (You ain't got a hair in your arse, kid.)

hehe, I got one of the hairy-est asses around.  What makes you think you
know so much about my ass anyway?



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From: "Glenn Hansen" <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner,alt.radio.scanner,rec.radio.cb,rec.radio.swap
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McInnis  wrote=20

> Wrong.  It's not usually illegal to own a scanner capable of receiving
> cell phone calls as long as it was made before the ban took effect.

It is not illegal to own a scanner capable of receiving cellular phones
even if it was made last week. If it is illegal why are so many cellular
capable scanners imported into the USA? Is customs on the take
with Javiation and others outside our borders?=20
The ban is on the sale not the possession of these 'special' radios.


Glenn


From [e-mail] Thu Oct 03 14:37:37 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Roger Pettengill)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Air Force One
Date: Tue, 01 Oct 1996 02:26:51 GMT
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On Mon, 30 Sep 1996 08:11:32 -0500, "I. M. Ecox" <[e-mail]>
wrote:

>Here's what I've got:
>
>UHF Downlink: 415.7
>UHF Uplink:   407.85

This is the Echo/Fox circuit aka Nationwide. The uplinks sites are at
selected AT&T microwave relay stations around the US to give the SAM
fleet (AF-One, etc) nearly total coverage in the 48 contigious states,

>VHF Downlink: 171.2875
>VHF Uplink:   162.6875

This is the Yankee/Zulu circuit. It's used for local ground duplex
comms wherever AF-One might be on the ground. Y/Z is not used for
air-gnd.

>I've heard traffic on the UHF pair, but not on the VHF.  From
>what I've heard, "Crown" is White House comms.  They link
>to various ground stations to keep up with AF-1 (Executive One
>Foxtrot).  Quickly switch between the downlink and the uplink
>frequencies to see if you can hear both sides of the conversation.

AF-1 is never Executive One Foxtrot. They are diffferent aircraft
carrying different people. Air Force One is any USAF plane carrying
the POTUS. Executive One Foxtrot is any plane carrying a member of the
POTUS's family.

Roger Pettengill - [e-mail] - 41N 73W


From [e-mail] Thu Oct 03 14:37:38 1996
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From: Brian Varine <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: US vs. CAN (was AMERICAN DOLLARS)
Date: Mon, 30 Sep 1996 20:07:29 -0700
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On Mon, 30 Sep 1996, Watcher5 wrote:

> [e-mail](Steve S) wrote:
>
> >Don't look now, but several thousand Canadians are getting real health
> >care in US facilities by pig-headed US doctors.
>
> Don't look now, but every Canadian is getting real health care in
> Canadian facilities.  So it takes a little longer.  At least we don't
> have people being turned away at our ER's just because they don't have
> insurance!

Doesn't happen here either. I didn't have insurance 2 years ago and they
treated me. My mom works up in Portland, they don't turn away the gang
bangers who get shot. Where did you ever get the idea that US Hospitals
won't treat you without insurance??

> >And GM, Ford, and Chrysler were nice enough to let you build several
> >cars and keep them in your country (but not the profits).  I think I'll
> >just go down to my local Canadian car dealer and picket.....oops, can
> >find one, sorry.
>
> So nice in fact that you can buy a car in Canada cheaper than you can
> in the U.S. (even after the exchange rate)!

Beg to differ. I have a sister in Ottawa who is waiting to buy a car
until they move to the states because it's cheaper. Plus they can get a
job in the US. There aren't any in Canada. To prove the point, look at
the job page in the Ottawa paper, 2 pages! Here in Corvallis, Oregon (pop
40K) we have 6.

I'm not trying to slam Canada, but it's pretty funny to see Canandians
try and slam the US when they are far from perfect.


From [e-mail] Thu Oct 03 14:37:39 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Brian Humphrey)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: LA & LAS VEGAS FREQS.
Date: 1 Oct 1996 03:11:57 GMT
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[e-mail] (The Gimp) wrote:
>
>I'm going to be in... I'm wondering if anyone has police, fire,...

Mr Scherer:

You can find an official list of Los Angeles City Fire Department
frequencies at:

http://www.ci.la.ca.us/dept/LAFD/freqncy.htm

Monitor Safely!

Brian Humphrey
Public Information Officer
Lso Angeles City Fire Department

E-Mail: <[e-mail]>



From [e-mail] Thu Oct 03 14:37:40 1996
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From: [e-mail]
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Subject: Re: Secret Service code names.
Date: 1 OCT 96 03:32:32 GMT
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In a previous article, "Charlie Solomon" <[e-mail]> wrote:
->
->> I spoke to a couple of Secret Service guys at a presidential function
->about
->> ten days ago. Clinton's code name is, in fact, "Eagle."
->
->Those Secret Service guys!  Are we ever going to break their codes, or what?

It's true, they are a wacky bunch!


From [e-mail] Thu Oct 03 14:37:41 1996
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From: Brian Gordinier <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner,alt.radio.scanner,rec.radio.swap
Subject: wanted: Bearcat 200xlt
Date: Mon, 30 Sep 1996 20:45:16 -0700
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I am looking for a bearcat bc 200xlt with or without mods. willing to
pay more if it comes with any extras or accesories.  please email specs
and prices to  [e-mail]


From [e-mail] Thu Oct 03 14:37:42 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Andrew Branstner)
Newsgroups: alt.forsale,misc.forsale,alt.radio.scanner,rec.radio.scanner
Subject: [FS/TRADE]: Uniden 100 channel Scanner
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========================
Uniden Bearcat BC-680XLT
========================

* 100 Channel Desktop Scanner
* 800 Mhz
* 12 bands
* Like new Condition.

Asking: $90.00 shipped.

Terms : Prepay U.S Check/Money Order, or UPS C.O.D

Reason For Selling: Nolonger used.

Note: Nolonger have original Box or manual. If you need help
programming the memories I'd be more than happy to email you
directions.

Will Trade for: 16 Megs of ram or a 28.8 V.34 Internal modem.

If interested, please email: [e-mail]
Please do not reply to this newsgroup.


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From [e-mail] Thu Oct 03 14:37:43 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Bill Cheek)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: BILL BILL BILL
Date: Thu, 03 Oct 1996 04:45:14 GMT
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"douglas dumire" <[e-mail]> wrote:

>       Is there something behind the name Bill that makes people want to bad talk
>them???
>       Or is it that some people are envious of Bill Cheek   or   Bill Gates for
>there ideas and success.

I think it's the bills more so than a Bill.

:-)

Bill




From [e-mail] Thu Oct 03 14:37:44 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Bill Cheek)
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Subject: Re: Credentials
Date: Thu, 03 Oct 1996 04:50:49 GMT
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[e-mail] wrote:

>> > Sooooooo, Mister John Mackey, let's you and me get down  and do some
>> > technical jousting for REAL.  Not insults and slander; rather nitty
>> > gritty technology where......I will clean your clock; sharpen your
>>
>> HEHEHEEHHEHEEHHEHEHEEHHEHEEHEHEHEHe
>>
>> You're such a comedian Billy!!!!
>>
>> > Your ONLY claim to fame is to play dirty.
>>
>> You mean like you, constantly lying & telling half-truths?

>John,  why don't you answer Bill, and play dirty, quit calling names,
>and talk technical.  So answer with just Yes or No.

He's not here for scanners or things technical.  What he said above
was tantamount to a low-life, slithering, snake-in-the-grass, "No."

I believe there is no further use in dealing or trying to deal with
him.  Mackey has his own self-serving interests and agenda.  I'm about
ready to stick him in my shit-list.

It's just that as a minister, I'm trained to never give up on lost
souls.  But this one is perhaps already discarnate.......

Rev. Bill
ULC




From [e-mail] Thu Oct 03 14:37:45 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Bill Cheek)
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Subject: Re: CB linear amps 4 Sale - Hypocrites
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[e-mail] (Bill Nelson) wrote:

>Bill Cheek ([e-mail]) wrote:
>: "Glenn Hansen" <[e-mail]> wrote:
>
>: >The ban is on the sale not the possession of these 'special' radios.
>
>: Sale, yes.  But also importation, too.  Otherwise, imported goods must
>: be matched by invoices or bills of lading that show the imported
>: contraband is for subsequent export.
>
>Import for sale, yes. As far as I know, there is no ban on import for
>private use.

That's an interesting concept.  I haven't followed the entire thread,
but if the implication is toward the so-called "export radios", then
they are not legal to import unless there is a matching bill of lading
for export.  That's how Customs looks at it, anyway.

As for cellular-capable radios....hmmmmm.   Private use only?
Perhaps.  I don't know about that one.

Bill




From [e-mail] Thu Oct 03 14:37:48 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Guido Zsilavecz)
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Subject: Re: Make Money Fast
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[e-mail] wrote:
>repetitive junk removed<
>BESIDES,NOT PLAYING THE GAME FAIRLY IS ILLEGAL.SO LET'S BE
>REASONABLE

Question - how can it be illegal to cheat on an illegal scheme???
Its like the guy who went to the police complaining about the chap who
sold him inferior quality cocaine....
Guido





Guido Zsilavecz         [e-mail]
Dive Cape Town
     At the edge...
       ...of magic!

--- Smoking is a social disease - stop now ---




From [e-mail] Thu Oct 03 14:37:49 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Jerry Lindell)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: RG 59\U
Date: Thu, 03 Oct 1996 06:22:34 GMT
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[e-mail] (Bill Cheek) wrote:

>>Yes. Here are the loss factors per 100-ft for cables at 1000 MHz:

>RG-58           22   dB  Hobbyist
>RG-8x           13   dB    grade
>RG-8            12   dB      coaxial
>RG-59           11   dB        cables
>RG-6             8.5 dB
>Belden 8214      7   dB
>Belden 9913      4.5 dB
>========================================
>Andrew LDF2-50A  3.5 dB  Commercial
>Andrew LDF4-50A  2.3 dB    Grade
>Andrew LDF5-50A  1.5 dB       Cables

>The Andrew cables are "hardline" and not generally suited for
>hobbyists due to expense of not only the cable, but also the special
>connectors that are required.

Is anybody familiar with a cable manufactured by Chushcraft/Singnals
called ULTRALINK 93605 . A guy who installs 2 way mobile radios said
they use this on their base station installations and says it's better
and cheaper than Belden 9913.

Jerry
[e-mail]



From [e-mail] Thu Oct 03 14:37:50 1996
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From: [e-mail](BAYCITVIDGRP)
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Subject: Re: Radio Shack's 1997 Catalog Policy
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In <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Ima P. Ness) writes:
>
>
>-  My manager has been with the company for over 15
>->years and to this day, I can't see how he's lasted this long.  Why
do
>->people continue to go back to Radio Shack if they have so many
gripes and
>->complaints against them!
>->
>-    That manager seems to be fulfilling the Peter Principle.

      He lasts "that long" because he gave up and fits in with
      the RS attitude: pay cheap and reap those that need to be
      told what to do with their lives....RS fills that gap.

      People go into RS with an attitude.  Once they go through
      that "your address please"...after a Cash transaction...
      well, it just pleases a lot of people to know that they
      have an address to give...I just tell the inquisitioneer
      that "I"M HOMELESS...don't know the address on my cardboard
      box."

      You can see their feeble minds trying to UNDERSTAND.  You
      know they have not been programmed with that ANSWER...and
      their lights go dead and they look for the manager for
      answers...that is why he lasts fifteen years...HE DON"T
      HAVE THE ANSWER.

      bill conduit


From [e-mail] Thu Oct 03 14:37:52 1996
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Subject: Small investment with a Big return, not a scam
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[e-mail] wrote:

 Taking 5 minutes to read what follows can change your life :

 I saw an article in an internet newsgroup telling me
 I could make $50,000 within a month for an investment of only $5.

 I started toying with the idea. But I shoved it aside because it was
 all supposed to be a big scam. But even the risk is so small only five
 miserable dollars !!

 Two weeks later, I began recieving money in the mail!  I could not
 believe it! Soon, hundreds, and then thousands of dollars began to
 roll in. Within 4 weeks, I had recieved a total of $32,445! It came
 from everywhere in the world.
 My bank account has changed its "-" into a big "+" (++++)!!!,I bought
 myself a car and my relationship with my girlfriend really started
 improving!

 If you follow the three steps below, there is no reason why the same
 shouldn't happen to you! This is a legitimate investment opportunity.
 You invest $5, and you recieve a return on your investment. So does
 the next investor. NOT ILLEGAL, NOT A CHAIN LETTER- PERFECTLY
 LEGITIMATE.

 If you are not interested, then don't participate, but please print
 this article and pass it on to someone who may be interested, so they
 can take advantage.

 The procedure is simple:
 1) Write your name and address on 5 sheets of paper.  Below that,
 write the words, "Please add me to your mailing list." Fold $1 note or
 bank draft or money order in each piece of paper and mail them to the
 following 5 addresses.:



         1. Linda Lapierre,  PO BOX 212275, Martinez, GA  30917  USA
         2. Oleg Gorbik, 10834-97 St., Edmonton, AB, T5H 2M3, Canada
         3. Christo van Zyl, 20 Hattingh Rd, Summerstrand, Port>

            Elizabeth, 6001, South Africa.
         4. Dan Allen, 419 Oley St., Reading PA 19601.
         5. Ruth Ragan, Rt 3 Box 119A, Odessa, Mo. 64076.

 2) Now remove the top name from the list, and move the other four
 names up. In other words, #5 becomes #4 and so on. Put your name as
 the fifth one on the list.Use a simple text editor such as Notepad,in
 your
 "accessories" window (If you have MS-Windows),or DOS editor.In fact,
 any editor will do.

 3) Post the article to at least 200 newsgroups. There are 17,000, so
 it shouldn't be hard to find that many.Try posting to as many
 newsgroups as you can,and the bigger the newsgroup is,the more
 people are to see your message !

 You are now in the mail order investment business, and should start
 seeing returns within a week or two. Of course, the more newsgroups
 you post to, the greater your return is. If you wish to remain
 anonymous, you may use a psuedonym,call yourself "The Manager","The
 Boss"
 ,whatever but make sure your address is correct.

 Now, here is why the system works:

 -Of every 200 posts I made, I recieved 5 responses. Yes, only 5. You
 make $5 for every 200 posts with your name at #5.

 -Each person who sent you $1 now also makes 200 additional postings
 with your name at #4. ie. 1000 postings. On average therefore, 50
 people will send you $1 with your name at #4. $50.

 -Your 50 new agents make 200 postings each with your name at #3 or
 10,000 postings. Average return 500 people= $500. They make 200
 postings each with your name at #2=100,000 postings=5000 return at $1
 each=$5000.

 -Finally, 5,000 people make 200 postings with your name at #1 and you
 get a return of $50,000 before your name drops off the list. AND THATS
 IF EVERYONE DOWN THE LINE MAKES 200 POSTINGS! Total income in
 one
 cycle=$55,000.

 From time to time, when you see your name no longer on the list, you
 take the latest posting that appears in the newsgroups, and send out
 another $5, and put your name at #5, and start posting again.
 Remember, 200 postings is only a guideline. the more you post, the
 greater the return.

 Lets review why you should do this. THE ONLY COST IS $5, AND 5
 STAMPS,
 AND 5 ENVELOPES.  Anyone can afford $5 for such an effortless
 investment with such SPECTACULAR RETURNS.

 Some people have said to me, "what happens if the scheme is played out
 and no one sends me any money?"Big Deal, so you lose $5-but what are
 the chances of that happening ?? Do you Realize that NOBODY cares for
 the LEGAL chance of winning such a BIG money as 50,000.00 $$$$ ????
 and all for a microscopic investment of five seperate dollars... ?
 just think of all of the new Internet users that join the net every day
 !!!

 There are millions of internet users, and millions of new net surfers
 every month !!!
 This is the great plus of the Internet,people all over the world can
 hear
 you and listen carefully if you talk reasonably.Everyone will take
 that chance !
 I agree,If it wasn't the Internet,and was a small circle of people,the
 chance wouldn't have been so small.the amount of money had to be 200
 times
 bigger,and the chances were zero.It wouldn't succeed.

 But here,on the Internet,it is a giant village,where new thousands of
 members join in every day ! you CAN'T lose
 !!!!

 Remember- read the instructions carefully, and play fairly. Thats the
 only way this will work. Get a printout so you can refer back to this
 article easily.

 Try to keep a list of everyone that sends you money and always keep
 an eye on the postings to make sure everyone is playing fairly. You
 know where your name should be.

 REMEMBER-HONESTY IS THE BEST POLICY.
 YOU DO NOT NEED TO CHEAT THIS IDEA TO MAKE MONEY!!

 BESIDES,NOT PLAYING THE GAME FAIRLY IS ILLEGAL.SO LET'S BE
 REASONABLE
 AND PLAY FAIRLY,SO WE CAN ALL ENJOY THE INTERNET GOLD
 MINE.

 GOOD LUCK FOR YOU ALL,And remember,play fair and you'll win,I don't
 want to mention what might happen to those who won't.

 AND AGAIN,SEE YOU NEXT TIME WITH SOMETHING YOU WANTED
 FOR A LONG TIME
 ............. !!!


From [e-mail] Thu Oct 03 14:37:53 1996
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From: [e-mail] (tyler)
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>> no degree,
>
>Correct.  I have several degrees.   :-)
>
>>no accreditating body, nothing.
>
>Wrong.  IEEE. ISA, APCO, RCA, NARTE, MENSA,.....and.....more.

Wow, I don't know about the rest of these, but when I went to P$U, the only
thing IEEE was good for was a free pizza party and maybe a T-shirt that you
had to pay for anyway.  Heck, you still have to pay an outrageous sum to get
into it after you graduate.  They don't require anything but ca$h.   tyler



From [e-mail] Thu Oct 03 14:37:54 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Dick Zeitlin)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Air Force One
Date: Thu, 03 Oct 1996 13:51:14 GMT
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On Mon, 30 Sep 1996 08:11:32 -0500, "I. M. Ecox" <[e-mail]>
wrote:

>                                                    They link
>to various ground stations to keep up with AF-1 (Executive One
>Foxtrot).

Executive 1 Foxtrot would not be the callsign for AF-1.  The
"Executive One Foxtrot" denotes a civilian aircraft carrying the first
family, but not the president.  Any military aircraft carrying the
president uses the callsign "<service> 1"  (Air Force 1, Marine 1,
etc.)  If I take Clinton sightseeing in a Cherokee (not bloody
likely!) I could use the callsign "Executive 1"

All this is set out in excruciating detail in the Air Traffic
Controller's Handbook.

        D/

--
ObDis: The account is borrowed.  The thoughts are all mine.


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From: [e-mail] (Michael Schuster)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Opto Xlorer vs. conventional scanners
Date: 3 Oct 1996 10:26:33 -0400
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In article <52ve45$[e-mail]>,
Andrei Moutchkine <[e-mail]> wrote:
>
>       OK, what can conventional scanners do what Xplorer cannot?

A lot ... but just off the top of my head:

Receive signals not in the immediate vicinity of the receiver.

Demodulate AM and sideband mode transmissions.

Store frequencies in banks of memory locations and check each of them
periodically for activity (i.e. SCAN).

Add, remove, modify the contents of such memory channels as conditions,
licenses, interference, useage patterns change.

Seach between two frequency limits for activity.

>If I buy the Xplorer, I would be using it as my primary device.

Very poor choice unless your object is to find nearby new frequencies
but never listen to them once found.

--
Mike Schuster           |       [e-mail]
[e-mail]      |       [e-mail]


From [e-mail] Thu Oct 03 14:37:55 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Michael Jacobs)
Subject: volume problem, please help.
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        Forgive me if this turns out to be a duplicate post, I haven't
seen my first one show up, nearly a week later.

        I have a Radio-Shack Pro-42 I'm very happy with but it does seem
to be getting quieter and quieter.  Replacing the NiCads with fresh
alkaline batteries helped a very small amount.  Odd as this sounds, it
*feels* as if the problem might be the connection under the antenae or
volume switch.
        Does this sound repairable, and if so to whom should I send it?
An e-mail response would be greatly appreciated.

                          Many Thanks,

                                Michael Jacobs
--
Michael C. Jacobs  -  [e-mail]
- Certified Netware Engineer
- IBM Certified OS/2 Engineer
- IBM Certified Lan Server Engineer


From [e-mail] Thu Oct 03 14:37:56 1996
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From: Larry Lefczik <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: Pro 2021 Key Beep Mod
Date: Thu, 03 Oct 1996 09:10:27 -0700
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Yes there is a mod to lower or eliminate the beep.  I have done it to my
PRO-2021 and will have to get the details for you.  I am fairly sure it
is a yellow wire from the keypad to the rear of the main board, but I'll
have to confirm that.