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From [e-mail] Thu Mar 07 10:15:35 1996
From: [e-mail] (DM McNeal)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: HF Packet. Is it worth setting up?
Date: Tue, 05 Mar 1996 23:17:29
Message-ID: <4hj3rl$[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]>

You mean there are actual QSO`s going on on HF packet ?



From [e-mail] Thu Mar 07 10:15:36 1996
From: [e-mail]
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Packet-Radio Soft for Mac ?
Date: 4 Mar 96 11:18:09 GMT
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

Hello,in which FTP-Serveers can I get PR-Soft for Mac ?

Pse E-Mail to: [e-mail]


From [e-mail] Thu Mar 07 10:15:36 1996
From: ian david robins <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: help !!!! anbody got a packet modem cct
Date: Sun, 03 Mar 1996 15:20:31 GMT
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail]

can anybody send or tell me where to find a simple packet modem circuit!!!!
t.i.a

                 thanks ian    (G7WHJ)   --



From [e-mail] Thu Mar 07 10:15:37 1996
From: "Frank B. Leppla" <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Help: Motorola Maxar 80 Radios
Date: Wed, 06 Mar 1996 11:44:25 -0800
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

Can these radios be used for 2M packet station?
What problems might be encountered? Do you have a
manual for a Maxar 80? Can I get a copy?
-------------------------------------------------
Please email information to:
[e-mail]


From [e-mail] Thu Mar 07 10:15:38 1996
From: Steven Smith <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: 2.4 GHZ Bilateral Power Amp
Date: Wed, 6 Mar 1996 16:07:13 -0800
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>


Does anyone have info on a 2.4Ghz Bilateral Power Amp for Ham use.
HyperAmp 2410 is exactly what I'm looking for, but the $3600 price is out
of my hobby budget.

Thanks in advance!


From [e-mail] Thu Mar 07 10:15:39 1996
From: Victor Morange <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Aprs setup
Date: Mon, 04 Mar 1996 09:12:43 +0000
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

I have a KPC-3 and I need  step by step instructions on how to set APRS. Can
anyone please help? Tnx.

73
Victor Morange
KO6ZK
[e-mail]


From [e-mail] Thu Mar 07 10:15:40 1996
From: [e-mail] (Francis Flynn)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: TAI-CHI MASTER - 3/13 - PC THEATER
Date: 7 Mar 96 00:56:05 GMT
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.91.960306195347.9364C-100000@sequoia>
References: <[e-mail]>

I just realised that I "CC'd" to a large number of lists.  Please accept my
apology. Sorry for the noise and use of bandwidth.

http://together.net/~fflynn
Francis Flynn, [e-mail]
ARS:KM1Z



From [e-mail] Thu Mar 07 10:15:41 1996
From: [e-mail](Richard D. Gill )
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Window Packet Software for KAM+ ??
Date: 5 Mar 1996 07:20:48 GMT
Message-ID: <4hgq0g$[e-mail]>

Hi..I am getting ready to buy a KAM+ TNC to replace my PK232..
My question is there any windows packet software that will alow dual
port operation like the Kamtronics Host Master II software.??? I do not
believe that Hostmaster II software will run under Windows..If I am
incorrect about this please let me know....Thanks..73's

Rich  KQ6EF    E-Mail richsnol@.ix.netcom.com



From [e-mail] Thu Mar 07 10:15:41 1996
From: [e-mail] (Louis Dupree)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: APRS
Date: 2 Mar 1996 11:51:23 GMT
Message-ID: <4h9cnr$[e-mail]>

Where can I find the latest APRS? Thank you. Louis/W4NRG
[e-mail]

--
Louis Dupree
3015 Englewood Dr.
Kinston, NC 28510
919 527 3519



From [e-mail] Thu Mar 07 10:15:42 1996
From: [e-mail] (Robert G Miles)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: HF Packet. Is it worth setting up?
Date: Mon, 4 Mar 1996 00:05:15 GMT
Message-ID: <4hdcct$[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]>

In message <[e-mail]>
        [e-mail] (Dick Mock)

Agree
Bob
GM4CAQ





From [e-mail] Thu Mar 07 10:15:43 1996
From: [e-mail] (Scott\, G.R. \,  Cundiff)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: THENET Docs?
Date: 2 Mar 96 16:47:06 GMT
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

I am looking for a source of THENET documentation -- anyone know of any WWW
sites, etc. where such might be found.

Thanks in advance, Scott

==================================================================
           G.R. "Scott" Cundiff  --  Borger, Texas
Internet:  [e-mail]    ham: N5ASD@N5ASD.#WTX.TX.USA.NOAM
==================================================================



From [e-mail] Thu Mar 07 10:15:44 1996
From: [e-mail](Andy Smith)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: HF packet. Worth getting set up?
Date: 6 Mar 1996 15:07:40 GMT
Message-ID: <4hk9ns$[e-mail]>
References: <4hj513$[e-mail]>


A couple of years ago, when 10 meters was open, I could connect to an HF
node in Palm Springs, CA and chat keyboard to keyboard with stations across
the US. The connects wouldn't hold very long but HEY, it was digital radio.


And that's all that matters :)

Andy at Rome, GA
[e-mail]


From [e-mail] Thu Mar 07 10:15:45 1996
From: larry@  (Larry Schroeder)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Adress for sending a Packet Message to Austria
Date: 7 Mar 1996 13:45:17 GMT
Message-ID: <4hmp9d$[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail] (Larry Schroeder)

Hello all,
I am looking for the correct codes to add to an address for a packett message
I want to send to Vienna Austria.  I need the city and country codes to add
after the BBS callsign.  Does anyone know the codes for Vienna and Austria?
If you do please send me a email note to the address below or post it on this
BBS.  Thanks for the help.

Larry Schroeder
[e-mail]
KD4HSL


From [e-mail] Thu Mar 07 10:15:46 1996
From: [e-mail] (Figaredo Martin, Alberto Ignac)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: 9k6 modem withou TNC, does it work?
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Date: 5 Mar 96 16:40:52 +0100

Hi all!

        I have an plaque to build 9k6 Modem with no TNC, just
like BAYCOMs. Has anyone tryed it? Does it work fine?
TNXs


73s de EB1CFL & EC1AJY
op. Alberto




From [e-mail] Thu Mar 07 10:15:47 1996
From: Jim Devenport <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: help !!!! anbody got a packet modem cct
Date: Mon, 04 Mar 1996 11:11:19 -0700
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]>
To: [e-mail]

"Simple" packet modems require "complex" software to interface with them
to accomplish the packet functions.  Insofar as Digicom and Baycom are
concerned you can always use the circuit in the "Packet Radio" section
of my web page listed in my signature.
--
|-------------------------------------------------------|
|Jim Devenport   WB5AOX                                 |
|All Standard Disclaimers Disclaimed                    |
|My views rarely (if ever) reflect those of my employers|
|HTTP://nis-www.lanl.gov/~jdport/                       |
|-------------------------------------------------------|


From [e-mail] Thu Mar 07 10:15:48 1996
From: [e-mail] (Stan Huntting)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc,rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: KaWin 6.33 supports QRZ! cdrom
Date: 2 Mar 1996 15:39:50 GMT
Message-ID: <4h9q46$[e-mail]>

KaWin Version 6.33 includes full support for the QRZ! Call Sign Database on
CDROM. KaWin offers the only native MS Windows support for Kantronics TNCs in
Host Mode. Download KaWin today from the KaWin Home Page below.
--
Stan Huntting,    KF0IA
email:            [e-mail]
fax:              303 444 2314
KaWin home page:  http://www.mutadv.com/kawin/
KaWin FTP site:   ftp.csn.net in the directory /kawin
postal address:   4655 Pleasant Ridge Rd.,
                  Boulder, CO 80301-1731, USA



From [e-mail] Thu Mar 07 10:15:49 1996
From: [e-mail] (Jeremy Boot)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: WWW Pages Update
Date: Tue, 05 Mar 1996 19:18:13 GMT
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail]

Updated and improved for March:

        http://www.innotts.co.uk/~asperges/

Still going strong. SWL Pages included. Lots of visitors worldwide to
date. Keep 'em coming. Support your pages!

73 de
Jeremy G4NJH
[e-mail]
[Home, Am Radio, SWL pages: http://www.innotts.co.uk/~asperges/ ]



From [e-mail] Thu Mar 07 10:15:49 1996
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
From: [e-mail] (Brian High)
Subject: ETHRAX25.com ??
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Date: Wed, 6 Mar 1996 17:36:00 GMT


Does anybody know where to get ETHRAX25.com??  I read July 1995 QST
p. 39 and it says that I can use this driver with Mosaic and Winsock to
browse the WEB via tcp/ip packet.

There are a few other people I know looking for this.  Please help us out.

--Brian, KV9X
--
********************   Brian High   ********************
* INTERNET: [e-mail]   PACKET: [e-mail]  *
********************************************************


From [e-mail] Thu Mar 07 10:15:50 1996
From: Alain <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Tsthot and windows 95
Date: 4 Mar 1996 10:01:19 GMT
Message-ID: <4hef1g$[e-mail]>

Hello amateur radio all of the wolrd

I'm using Tsthost

and it doesn't work under windows 95

if somme one know how i can do for it's work under windwos 95

please send me e-mail

thank you every body...


JosΘ from Paris


From [e-mail] Thu Mar 07 10:15:51 1996
From: [e-mail] ()
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: APRS
Date: Sat, 02 Mar 1996 20:26:52 GMT
Message-ID: <4haatc$[e-mail]>
References: <4h9cnr$[e-mail]>

[e-mail] (Louis Dupree) wrote:

>Where can I find the latest APRS? Thank you. Louis/W4NRG
>[e-mail]

>--
>Louis Dupree
>3015 Englewood Dr.
>Kinston, NC 28510
>919 527 3519

Try ftp://ftp.tapr.org/tapr/SIG/aprssig/upload/     Latest is APRS
7.5. Have fun.



From [e-mail] Thu Mar 07 10:15:52 1996
From: Steve <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: APRS
Date: 5 Mar 1996 13:04:37 GMT
Message-ID: <4hhe55$[e-mail]>

[e-mail] (Louis Dupree) writes:
> Where can I find the latest APRS? Thank you. Louis/W4NRG
> [e-mail]
>
> --
> Louis Dupree
> 3015 Englewood Dr.
> Kinston, NC 28510
> 919 527 3519
>
ftp.tapr.org
Think the sequence is tapr/SIG/aprssig/uploads
Watch the caps for SIG. WINAPRS is under a sub-directory called WINAPRS.
Latest DOS ver is 7.5 and WINAPRS is something like 2.05.
73 de N8NYU
[e-mail]



From [e-mail] Thu Mar 07 10:15:53 1996
From: [e-mail] (Gerard Foley)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: HF packet. Worth getting set up?
Date: 5 Mar 1996 23:41:07 -0500
Message-ID: <4hj513$[e-mail]>
References: <4gfus2$[e-mail]> <4hgmrs$[e-mail]>

MIKEHAACK ([e-mail]) wrote:
<snip>
:  Take your TNC hook it up to your VHF rig for the DXCLUSTER. Take your HF
: rig and Hook up via RTTY, Amtor, or Pactor, or give clover a try..

:  Either way enjoy the Digital Modes.. Home to some of the Worlds
: friendliest Hams.. And Great DX.. you can see the pileups..

:  73 de Mike, WB9B

:
:

   As one fellow ham said, the digital modes don't seem to bring out the
animal in people!

Gerry K8EF



From [e-mail] Thu Mar 07 10:15:54 1996
From: Charles Bolland <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave,rec.radio.amateur.antenna,rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc,rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.homebrew,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.policy,rec.radio.amateur.space,rec.radio.noncomm,rec.radio.scanner,rec.radio.swap
Subject: Re: Stand Alone Broadcast Radio Station Database - LW,MW,SW
Date: 2 Mar 1996 21:35:10 GMT
Message-ID: <4haeue$[e-mail]>
References: <4gttsh$[e-mail]> <4gvda8$[e-mail]>
To: [e-mail]

Friends,

I'm still sending out the Stand Alone Broadcast Radio Station Database to
whomever wants it.  I would like your mailing address and Email address
for registration and possibly a future letter describing a more
comprehensive database program for radio.  All information will be kept
confidential..

Just answer this posting to "[e-mail]".

The database has more than 4,000 records already and can be edited and
updated.

Hope to hear from you.

Chuck
KA4PRF




From [e-mail] Thu Mar 07 10:15:55 1996
From: [e-mail] (Joe Burnham)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: CP100 on packet or paktor
Date: Sat, 02 Mar 1996 18:47:47 GMT
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]>

[e-mail] (Ed Ingraham         ) wrote:

>Does anyone know how or if it is possible to make an
>AEA CP-100 operate on either HF packet or paktor?
>
>Ed, WX4S
YES, you can do AMTOR and PACTOR with appropriate software.  I use
BMKMULTY with my CP-1 to do everything except PACTOR (I don't have
that module yet).

I'm not aware of any software that will let you do PACKET with the
CP-1/CP-100)

I use the CP-1, which I ASSUME is the same thing as a CP-100.

There is also a shareware program called PCTOR which will let you do
AMTOR (only) with the CP-1.

I've seen PCTOR on the Internet, but I don't remember where, at the
moment...



From [e-mail] Thu Mar 07 10:15:56 1996
From: [e-mail] (RON HAUGER)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: AEA PK-900 FAX reception?
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Date: Sat, 02 Mar 96 18:14:00 -0500
Distribution: world
Reply-To: [e-mail] (RON HAUGER)

 On 03/01/96 BILL CROCKER wrote to ALL...

 BC> Windows, to allow reception of weather FAX's.  It this the best way to
 BC> go, or a
 BC> re there better
 BC> alternatives?

        I'm almost sure Satellite Times magazine has ads for
wefax software.

 [e-mail]*KC4KNA*VBARC*AMSAT*RTTY*PACKET*SWL*ATV
 HF+VHF WEFAX*TVRO*SCPC*FM2*EXTRATERRESTRIAL*WATCHEROFTHESKIES

---
 * OFFLINE 1.58



---
This message originated from:  ----------        Selective Source BBS
                                    -------    Virginia Beach, Virginia
                                         -----      [phone]


From [e-mail] Thu Mar 07 10:15:57 1996
From: [e-mail] (Arden Eby)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: TNC problems with Win95 install
Date: Sun, 03 Mar 1996 03:56:34 GMT
Message-ID: <4hb59e$[e-mail]>
References: <4h0isk$[e-mail]>

[e-mail] (Ed Gallup) wrote:


>   When installing Windows 95, the install program interrogates all ports
>to identify what's connected to them.  I would suggest that you turn off
>your TNC when installing Windows 95.  It interrogated my KAM plus and
>screwed it up.  I had to do a hard reset to reactivate it.  No big deal,
>but who needs the headaches.

It didn't have a problem with my AEA PK-232.  In fact, a little doalog
box appeared telling me that my PK-pakratt for windows would run but
needed to be updated due to a it's custom menuing system.

Arden


******************************************************************************
                                 Arden Eby
                      Internet:  [e-mail]
                  Packet Radio:  [e-mail]
     Homepage (Eby's Cyberscroll)  http://www.teleport.com/~arden/
******************************************************************************



From [e-mail] Thu Mar 07 10:15:58 1996
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
From: Dino Moriello <[e-mail]>
Subject: North East Digital Association WEB PAGE
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Date: Sat, 02 Mar 1996 05:39:09 GMT

> > > Greetings,
> > >
> > > This is just a reminder about the
> > > NEDA Web Page, dedicated to good packet networking at
> > >
> > > http://www.cam.org/~dino/neda/NEDA.html
> > >
> > > The web pages contain BUG reports, NEDA-recommended Node parameters, and

> > > much more, including an ftp section with X1JR4 docs, software and NEDA
> > > files in zipped format.
> > >
> > > Your comments are welcome. Thanks for dropping in.
> > >

--

      +---------------------------------------------------------------+
      | Dino Moriello                Montreal, Quebec, CANADA         |
      | Internet: [e-mail]    WWW: [http://www.cam.org/~dino/] |
      |           [e-mail]    AX.25: ve2dm@ve2fkb              |
      |           [e-mail]                                     |
      +---------------------------------------------------------------+




From [e-mail] Thu Mar 07 10:16:00 1996
From: [e-mail] (MIKEHAACK)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: HF packet. Worth getting set up?
Date: 5 Mar 1996 01:27:07 -0500
Message-ID: <4hgmrs$[e-mail]>
References: <4gfus2$[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail] (MIKEHAACK)

As To HF Packet...

 Packet is/was a protocol developed to operate in a clean High
signal/Noise Ratio
environment.. such as VHF/UHF frequncies.. And does so quite well.
 It is not and was not designed or intended for use in the evironment as
provided by HF freq's.
 Its Attempted use at those freq's has been the cause of much "discussion"
and all most an all out range war... The ARRL seemed for a while to be
touting Packet as the new Mode of the Century..
 That said.. Yes Ive Tried HF PACKET.. It can be very very slow with many
retries.. Yes I operate The other Digital modes.. Including Clover Pactor
Amtor and RTTY..  And Yes Im an ARRL member..

 Take your TNC hook it up to your VHF rig for the DXCLUSTER. Take your HF
rig and Hook up via RTTY, Amtor, or Pactor, or give clover a try..

 Either way enjoy the Digital Modes.. Home to some of the Worlds
friendliest Hams.. And Great DX.. you can see the pileups..

 73 de Mike, WB9B





From [e-mail] Thu Mar 07 10:16:01 1996
From: [e-mail] (Stan Huntting)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: Window Packet Software for KAM+ ??
Date: 5 Mar 1996 14:49:44 GMT
Message-ID: <4hhka8$[e-mail]>
References: <4hgq0g$[e-mail]>

In article <4hgq0g$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] says...

>Hi..I am getting ready to buy a KAM+ TNC to replace my PK232..
>My question is there any windows packet software that will alow dual
>port operation like the Kamtronics Host Master II software.???

Yes there is, Rich. KaWin is designed expressly for host mode Kantronics TNCs
in MS Windows. Host mode is the magic bullet that opens up the dual port
operation along with many other tricks of the Kantronics TNCs, and KaWin is th
e
only Windows program that supports their host mode.

You may dowmload the FULL program (not a test version - but it does run with a

nag meter until registered) right now from the KaWin Home Page below. GL es 73
,

Stan
--
Stan Huntting,    KF0IA
email:            [e-mail]
fax:              303 444 2314
KaWin home page:  http://www.mutadv.com/kawin/
KaWin FTP site:   ftp://ftp.csn.net/kawin
postal address:   4655 Pleasant Ridge Rd.,
                  Boulder, CO 80301-1731, USA



From [e-mail] Thu Mar 07 10:16:02 1996
From: Tim Deagan <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Newbie TexNet packet questions
Date: Tue, 05 Mar 1996 10:54:06 -0600
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

I've got my packet station running here in Austin Tx. :-)
I've been practicing the theory of listening before talking.
I think I've found a TexNet node talking to folks.

I haven't made a packet contact yet, and am about ready.
I'd like to do something simple like check the weather or read
bulletins, etc..  Is there a special SSID I need to connect to?

Could someone post a brief of how a contact with a net node
might go?  Perhaps suggest a couple of activities for a newbie
to try that won't cheese off the established users :-)

Also, after the addr header, I occasionally get gibberish;

W5SYT-15>N5IST:A SUGGESTION     0
W5SYT-15>N5IST:~∩q╕╝-µ â╗▐▀α^╓p/\s<v╗■_δ_═≡┘╪X∙)V╙«½┌φ╧∞▄∞1'I,║╗
j[δ*öy£
╡└s4▐gv≡π┌Ω⌠╗Ä⌠{
├ï{~╜vΓb╦d_è░ñvoºƒⁿçº[┼╙τ╜
í┐≤║√N

I have MCOM off.  I'm operating on-air at 1200bd.  PacComm
PicoPacket, Yeasu FT-51R, 145.07

Thanks in advance,
--Tim
KC5QFG


From [e-mail] Thu Mar 07 10:16:03 1996
From: [e-mail] (Ralph Lindberg & Ellen Winnie)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: VHF Mailing List
Date: Sun, 03 Mar 1996 08:16:54 -0700
Message-ID: <dragonsl-0303960816540001@192.0.2.1>
References: <[e-mail]>

In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Angelo
Glorioso III) wrote:

>Hi All!
>
> I heard there is a VHF Mailing list.. I am trying to find out info on it..
>Any help is apperciated!!
  OK, to subscribe post a message to:

 [e-mail]

With the body of the text reading:

sub vhf
stop

  You will receive the infomation for the list then and be subscribed:
But the posting address is: [e-mail]

  The purpose of the list is VHF, primarily weak-signal, other then EME
(which has it's own list). But VHF contests also get a great deal of
attention. At times the list is a little high volume for me, but I just
ignore it then

--
Ralph Lindberg N7BSN           e-mail to [e-mail] (read daily)
RV and Camping FAQ <http://kendaco.telebyte.net/rlindber/rv/
They call it "Surf'n the Net" 'cause you can wipe out so easy


From [e-mail] Thu Mar 07 10:16:04 1996
From: [e-mail] (Ed Mitchell)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: FTP thru high speed packet : what rate do you get?
Date: 2 Mar 1996 04:39:37 GMT
Message-ID: <4h8je9$[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]>

In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] says...
>
>Does anybody have a rough idea of actual measued bytes/sec transfer rate
>with a given packet setup ? What is the best expected rate for 9600 ?
>19,2 ? 56 ?
>I'm trying to gauge the actual speed for file transfers , rather than
>latency for the connections when you hit CR when 'typing' to somebody.
>
>Les Dittert ,ALT Systems. Hollywood CA.
>[e-mail]
>http://www.rfx.com/folks/les
>
>"Question MTV"

I've run FTP through a non-ham packet radio network. At the time we believe we

were getting typical channel throughputs of 20 to 25 kbps. The FTP throughput
was about 17 kbps. Perhaps that ratio will help you. In packet radio links,
there are many variables including other users of the channel, interference,
rayleigh fading if either end is moving or something reflective in between is
moving, etc.

Ed, KF7VY

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From [e-mail] Thu Mar 07 10:16:05 1996
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
From: [e-mail] (Rob Janssen)
Subject: Re: Realtime compression ax25?
Reply-To: [e-mail]
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]>
Date: Sat, 2 Mar 1996 09:35:54 GMT

In <[e-mail]> [e-mail] writes:

>In  Holland,  it  is legal to use packet on 11 meters, as long as you don't
>modify  any  tranceivers. Due to the used tranceivers, we can only use 1200
>baud   packet.  Also  11  meters  isn't  a  good  frequency  to  use higher
>baudrates.

>I  was thinking to use realtime compression (lzh) to get a higher troughput
>of  bytes.  I can use compression, because it is legal. It is not encryption.

>Many  stations  in  Holland use TFPCX together with the baycom-modem. It is
>possible    to   send   256-character-strings   to   the   interface. Using
>lzh-compression,  we  still  can  send  these strings to the interface, but
>thanks to the compression the actual througput is bigger.

Of course you can do that, when you have the software for it.
Some packages offer compression.
However, you will probably be disappointed with the results.

Text you type online can probably be compressed well, but is low in
volume anyway.  When you want to transfer some file, you can use LHA
or PKZIP to compress it first, and the online compression will no longer
improve things.
Mailbox forwarding protocols also use compression already, so their
performance is not going to improve either.

To get to higher speeds, you will need to get an amateur radio license
and experiment with faster modems on UHF/SHF bands.

Rob
--
+------------------------------------+--------------------------------------+
| Rob Janssen         [e-mail] | BBS: [phone] (2300-0730 local) |
| AMPRnet:       [e-mail] | AX.25 BBS: PE1CHL@PI8WNO.#UTR.NLD.EU |
+------------------------------------+--------------------------------------+


From [e-mail] Thu Mar 07 10:16:08 1996
From: [e-mail] (John Minger)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: 2-Meter Handhelds ~= Amateur Cellular?
Date: 3 Mar 1996 22:33:31 GMT
Message-ID: <4hd6nr$[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]> <[e-mail]>

In article <[e-mail]>,
Gary Coffman <[e-mail]> wrote:
>In article <[e-mail]> bsanders@n
csa.uiuc.edu (Barry Sanders) writes:
>>Please pardon my starry-eyed naivete and dream along with me, if you will...
>>
>>What I'd like to know is this:  What sort of testbeds or infrastructures
>>are in place (anywhere) that allow for hand-held radio xcvr's to be used
>>for anything even remotely resembling cellular-like service?  What I mean
>>by this is:
>>
>>* Origination of telephone (POTS) calls through local repeater(s).
>
>We have this, it's called a phone patch. Not every repeater has one,
>but many do.
>
[ edited ... ]
>
>More important perhaps, most repeaters are independently owned and
>operated. Getting the *political* cooperation to form them into
>a single network is a daunting challenge. Most repeaters are established
>to serve as group gathering places, waterholes in effect, where the
>supporters of the machine gather to converse. Most repeaters are not
>operated primarily as cellular phone substitutes.
>
If you want to see such a (mis?)-use of the amateur spectrum, just take
a gander at the 440 band in good old Southern California.  If you monitor
some of those closed repeaters (about 95% or more of frequency allocation)
you will hear mostly silence, interrupted occasionally by telephone
autopatch calls.

Let's hope the coming PCS micro cellular systems will make it so easy to
make our mobil phone calls, that we can reclaim the amateur 440 band here
for amateur radio uses.  Ham radio is a pretty poor substitute for a
cellular phone, and of course visa versa.

How the heck did our 440 band get like this?  How can it stay this way?
Is somebody making a buck here with defacto commercial use of the band?

Owch!  Just got a splinter from my soap-box.  Durn...

-73 de John KE6DTC
<[e-mail]>
--
----------------------------------------------------------------------
John Minger <[e-mail]>  Interests: Genealogy, Amateur Radio
 KE6DTC@K6VE.#SOCA.CA.USA.NOAM, TCP/IP: 44.16.1.240 - ke6dtc.ampr.org
----------------------------------------------------------------------


From [e-mail] Mon Mar 11 07:19:17 1996
From: [e-mail] (Jonathan sawyer)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: 2.4 GHZ Bilateral Power Amp
Date: Thu, 07 Mar 96 04:02:21 GMT
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <4hlu5s$[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]>

Steven Smith <[e-mail]> wrote:
>
>Does anyone have info on a 2.4Ghz Bilateral Power Amp for Ham use.
>HyperAmp 2410 is exactly what I'm looking for, but the $3600 price is out
>of my hobby budget.
>
>Thanks in advance!
Steven

FreeWave Technologies makes 900 MHz bilateral power amplifiers that are better
 than
HyperLink at lower cost.   We hope to introduce our line of 2400 MHz amps in 6
0 days.
Rest assured our amps will be far lower in cost than $3600.

Jonathan Sawyer
FreeWave Technologies



From [e-mail] Mon Mar 11 07:19:18 1996
From: [e-mail] (WB7ASR)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: 4-Sale, 1200 baud PSK moden
Date: 6 Mar 1996 16:32:47 GMT
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <4hkenf$[e-mail]>

I have the TAPR 1200 baud PSK modem for the PK-232. Excellent condition,
fully functional. Complete with manual and I will ship

$50 US/Canada, west of the Mississippi river
$55 US/Canada, east of the Mississippi river
$50 plus shipping cost international

WB7ASR...
[e-mail]



From [e-mail] Mon Mar 11 07:19:19 1996
From: [e-mail] (Eric Bertrem)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: 9k6 modem withou TNC, does it work?
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Date: Sat, 09 Mar 96 12:12:36 +0100
References: <[e-mail]> <4hnemc$[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail]

> Figaredo Martin, Alberto Ignac ([e-mail]) wrote:

>
>   I have an plaque to build 9k6 Modem with no TNC, just
> like BAYCOMs. Has anyone tryed it? Does it work fine?
> TNXs

Try the BayCom 9600 Baud Modem, called PAR 96. It works fine, is connected
on your LPT port, and can use TFX-PAR (a TFPCX-like driver), PC/FlexNet or
BayCom 1.60.

There's only one limit : no full-duplex, half-duplex only !

73s

*****************************************************************************
* Eric BERTREM                           * French RMNC/FlexNet & PC/FlexNet *
* AX25  : F5PJE @ F6BIG.FRHA.FRA.EU      * support : BPQ and Net/Wrong are  *
* Email : [e-mail] * prehistory :-)                   *
*****************************************************************************



From [e-mail] Mon Mar 11 07:19:20 1996
From: David Mercer <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: AX.25 under Solaris???
Date: Mon, 04 Mar 1996 11:48:41 -0500
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

Has anybody out there ever run AX.25 under Solaris?  I have seen code to
run it under SunOS 4.1.x but none for Solaris.

Any pointers would be appreciated.

DAve
--
David Mercer, PEng                    |
Software Kinetics Limited             |
65 Iber Road                          |  Shut up brain or I'll stab you
Stittsville, Ontario, Canada          |         with a Q-tip
K2S 1E7                               |
                                      |   --Homer Simpson
Ph.   [phone]                  |
Fax   [phone]                  |
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From [e-mail] Mon Mar 11 07:19:20 1996
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
From: [e-mail] (Christopher J Hansen)
Subject: DSP Prototype Boards
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Date: Wed, 6 Mar 1996 03:39:32 GMT

I am interested in vendors of prototype boards with DSP chips.   Any
recommendations for a board with the TMS320C32 DSP or a similar
Motorola part?

Thanks,
Chris Hansen, KQ6DW



From [e-mail] Mon Mar 11 07:19:21 1996
From: Adriano Sgarbi <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc,rec.radio.amateur.homebrew
Subject: ELECTRONIC TESTING EQUIPMENTS
Date: Fri, 08 Mar 1996 10:52:19 +0100
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

ELECTRONIC TESTING EQUIPMENTS at

http://www.datas.it/~aea/


From [e-mail] Mon Mar 11 07:19:22 1996
From: XE2MXU/N5UHB <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: em1200m2 emulator???
Date: Sat, 2 Mar 1996 17:16:39 -0600
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>


Hello all, I am looking for the  "em1200m2 emulator" (or something like
that).  I saw a packet bulletin a few days ago saying that this emulator
can used along with the baycom  program to run packet with the *hamcomm*
interface.  Anyway, I haven't been able to find the emulator mentioned
above, and I would appreciate it if anyone can provide any information on
where to find it...

thanks in advance,

Luis F. Orozco XE2MXU/N5UHB

___

Larrabee's Law -> 'Half of everything you hear in a classroom is crap.
                   Education is figuring out which half is which.'

"....The truth IS out there..."
                        --The X-Files




From [e-mail] Mon Mar 11 07:19:23 1996
From: Dave Maciorowski <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: ETHRAX25.com ??
Date: 7 Mar 1996 13:56:22 GMT
Message-ID: <4hmpu6$[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]>
To: [e-mail],(Brian,High)

[e-mail] (Brian High) wrote:
>
>Does anybody know where to get ETHRAX25.com??  I read July 1995 QST
>p. 39 and it says that I can use this driver with Mosaic and Winsock to
>browse the WEB via tcp/ip packet.
>
>There are a few other people I know looking for this.  Please help us out.
>
>--Brian, KV9X

TAPR maintains an extensive software library of everything to do with
packet/digital.  See http://www.tapr.org

ETHRAX25 is in the software library at:

       ftp://ftp.tapr.org/tapr/software_lib/tcpip

-----
Dave Maciorowski, WA1JHK
Colorado Repeater Association, Inc.
  Serving Colorado with Voice and Data, 6-Meters to 1.2 Gig

Internet: [e-mail] or [e-mail]
CRA:      http://www.rmsd.com/hamradio/cra/




From [e-mail] Mon Mar 11 07:19:24 1996
From: [e-mail]
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: FS: Universal M-900
Date: 7 Mar 1996 18:38:59 GMT
Message-ID: <4hnag3$[e-mail]>

For Sale: Universal M-900 decoder
RTTY 45 50 74
 Sitor A and B
Morse
Fax to printer

$135 plus shipping from Seattle



From [e-mail] Mon Mar 11 07:19:25 1996
From: [e-mail] (Betchy)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Help with TCPIP
Date: Wed, 06 Mar 1996 07:27:49 -0400
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

I have all the software for TCPIP operation, it was configured for my call
and equip., but have no instructions on how to invoke the program. I
understand your tnc needs to be in the KISS mode, but what executable
invokes the program? Any input appreciated.

[e-mail]


From [e-mail] Mon Mar 11 07:19:27 1996
From: Andy Walton <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: HELP-Packet drivers,Ethernet,AX25,JNOS/KA9Q Questions
Date: 8 Mar 1996 05:09:39 GMT
Message-ID: <4hofej$[e-mail]>

G,day all,
          Since I'm posting this to several unrelated groups, please forgive m
e if I appear to make things over-clear as to what I w=
ant to do.

        I use several Pc's hooked together using 10Mbps Ethernet so as to run my ham
radio packet software . My ham radio gear is out in a =
shed which is probably fairly normal for most hams, however is condidered slig
htly anti-social by the rest of the family. The idea i=
s to use a terminal inside the house,(read not anti-social!).

         I use a "Baycom" style modem that does the audio encoding/decoding, and the
ax-25 packet processing is done inside the host pc, th=
at is the pc is the TNC(terminal node controller). There are several programme
s that enable one to do this namely BAYCOM using L2 as=
 its ax25 interface, Graphic packet or TPK using TFPCX, or one of the many var
iants of KA9Q NOS using ax25.com packet driver.(ie JNO=
S)

        I can currently set up the host PC as a TNC and run TELNETD, so I can telnet
to it from another machine using NCSA Telnet(for DOS).=
 The setup procedure at present is to run TELNETD on the host(using one of the
 ethernet packet drivers),and establish connection on =
the client,(that is the host keyboard and screen are somewhat replicated remot
ely, 24 lines, no colour or screen attributes). I then=
 load up the ax25 packet driver on  and start Ka9Q NOS on  the TELNETD server
and off I go. That is the host has two packet drivers =
running simultaneously, The ethernet driver for TELNETD and an AX25 driver for
 KA9Q NOS.

        What I would really like to do would be to run the ax25 packet driver on the
PC in the ham radio shack, have the ax25 packets route=
d up the ethernet cable to to remote PC, and run NOS on the remote PC by means
 of attaching an ethernet packet driver to it instead =
of the ax25 packet driver.

        I have looked at the Simtel collection and there are two programmes that at f
irst instance may appear to do the job but in fact won=
't. The first is PC Bridge abut that requires a specific type of ethernet card
(Western digital) which I do not own. It effectivley c=
onfigures a pc as a bridge. The second program is PC Route which is an ip rout
er. You can attach the packet drivers to it, However, =
it does its routing based on the i/p address embedded inside each packet. The
only trouble with standard ax25 is there is no ip addr=
ess, so we have to rule this one out as well. Believe me, it don't work. What
I THINK (???) I need is a bridge that can use packet d=
rivers.

        I have never programmed in C, and am verrry rusty at assembler. Is anyone abl
e to offer some suggestions as to how to bridge two pa=
cket drivers together on a PC ????? Would it possible to use KA9Q/JNOS as digi
peater at the radio end and use KA9Q/JNOS at the remot=
e end using the AX25 packet driver for ethernet??

        Any ideas would be welcomed

Regards Andy Walton, VK3CAH





From [e-mail] Mon Mar 11 07:19:28 1996
From: Andy Walton <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.networking,aus.radio.amateur.digital
Subject: HELP-Packet drivers,Ethernet,AX@%,JNOS/KA9Q Questions
Date: 8 Mar 1996 05:16:37 GMT
Message-ID: <4hofrl$[e-mail]>

G,day all,
          Since I'm posting this to several unrelated groups, please forgive m
e if I appear to make things over-clear as to what I w=
ant to do.

        I use several Pc's hooked together using 10Mbps Ethernet so as to run my ham
radio packet software . My ham radio gear is out in a =
shed which is probably fairly normal for most hams, however is condidered slig
htly anti-social by the rest of the family. The idea i=
s to use a terminal inside the house,(read not anti-social!).

         I use a "Baycom" style modem that does the audio encoding/decoding, and the
ax-25 packet processing is done inside the host pc, th=
at is the pc is the TNC(terminal node controller). There are several programme
s that enable one to do this namely BAYCOM using L2 as=
 its ax25 interface, Graphic packet or TPK using TFPCX, or one of the many var
iants of KA9Q NOS using ax25.com packet driver.(ie JNO=
S)

        I can currently set up the host PC as a TNC and run TELNETD, so I can telnet
to it from another machine using NCSA Telnet(for DOS).=
 The setup procedure at present is to run TELNETD on the host(using one of the
 ethernet packet drivers),and establish connection on =
the client,(that is the host keyboard and screen are somewhat replicated remot
ely, 24 lines, no colour or screen attributes). I then=
 load up the ax25 packet driver on  and start Ka9Q NOS on  the TELNETD server
and off I go. That is the host has two packet drivers =
running simultaneously, The ethernet driver for TELNETD and an AX25 driver for
 KA9Q NOS.

        What I would really like to do would be to run the ax25 packet driver on the
PC in the ham radio shack, have the ax25 packets route=
d up the ethernet cable to to remote PC, and run NOS on the remote PC by means
 of attaching an ethernet packet driver to it instead =
of the ax25 packet driver.

        I have looked at the Simtel collection and there are two programmes that at f
irst instance may appear to do the job but in fact won=
't. The first is PC Bridge abut that requires a specific type of ethernet card
(Western digital) which I do not own. It effectivley c=
onfigures a pc as a bridge. The second program is PC Route which is an ip rout
er. You can attach the packet drivers to it, However, =
it does its routing based on the i/p address embedded inside each packet. The
only trouble with standard ax25 is there is no ip addr=
ess, so we have to rule this one out as well. Believe me, it don't work. What
I THINK (???) I need is a bridge that can use packet d=
rivers.

        I have never programmed in C, and am verrry rusty at assembler. Is anyone abl
e to offer some suggestions as to how to bridge two pa=
cket drivers together on a PC ????? Would it possible to use KA9Q/JNOS as digi
peater at the radio end and use KA9Q/JNOS at the remot=
e end using the AX25 packet driver for ethernet??

        Any ideas would be welcomed

Regards Andy Walton, VK3CAH





From [e-mail] Mon Mar 11 07:19:30 1996
From: [e-mail] (Bob Nielsen)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: Help: Motorola Maxar 80 Radios
Date: 6 Mar 1996 15:50:01 -0700
Message-ID: <4hl4qp$[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]>

"Frank B. Leppla" <[e-mail]> wrote:

>Can these radios be used for 2M packet station?
>What problems might be encountered? Do you have a
>manual for a Maxar 80? Can I get a copy?
>-------------------------------------------------
>Please email information to:
>[e-mail]

I am not sure how the Maxar 80 varies from the straight Maxar, but
Maxars are probably a fairly good radio for 1200 baud packet.  I am in
the process of converting a Moxy (very similar) for uhf, but haven't
fired it up yet..  I would expect some work would be needed on the
i.f. filtering for 9600, however.  The manual should be available from
your local Motorola service facility.

Bob




From [e-mail] Mon Mar 11 07:19:30 1996
From: [e-mail] (richard lyder)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: help; digital if's
Date: Mon, 11 Mar 1996 02:58:51 GMT
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

can any body please help me. I am interested in designing a digital if for an
h.f. transceiver
and I am looking for any reference books available on the subject. If any one
knows of a
suitable source of books please let me know.
Please e. mail me at [e-mail]


From [e-mail] Mon Mar 11 07:19:31 1996
From: [e-mail] (Debora Buffington)
Subject: Re: HF Packet. Is it worth setting up?
Date: 10 Mar 96 20:56:41 -0800
References: <[e-mail]> <4hj3rl$[e-mail]>
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc

On HF, the main qso modes are Pactor and RTTY (Pactor
is the most active)

Most or all of the HF packet you hear is automated
forwarding.  It isn't a very good mode for HF, and few
folks bother live qsos on HF packet.

Roger, Ab6wr


From [e-mail] Mon Mar 11 07:19:32 1996
From: [e-mail] (David, Michaela & Benjamin)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Internet HF Remote Control
Date: 9 Mar 96 00:42:16 GMT
Message-ID: <[e-mail].198.186.186.2>

Ok you incredibly creative Hams out there, help me solve this one!

Since I moved, our Club station is too far away for a price-reasonable =
phone link, and touch-and-go for a 440 link, so ... how about the =
Internet?

The Club site is many times superior to my home site and I need a more =
reliable station QTH for missionary & emergency skeds & activities.

My home QTH is too low for a UHF or microwave link, though I could =
arrange a phone connect to another ham's hilltop QTH and a radio link =
from there ... but that seems too "old-tech".

If we can make a voice call and transfer digital data at the same time =
over the Internet, why can't I use the digital channel for control info =
& still do the voice?
I have no idea what sort of Internet account the Club station would =
need, but I'm sure we could find a way to do it ... I assume a Web site.

Sure, the voice won't be studio quality, but it should be communication =
quality.
The cable system and other methods are promising huge bandwidth access =
real soon.

Someone please surprise me and tell me it has already been done, and how =
... or that you are in the process of setting up such a link now.  =
Help!

73, David AA1FA


From [e-mail] Mon Mar 11 07:19:33 1996
From: [e-mail] (John Gubernard)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Landline Modems
Date: 8 Mar 1996 22:19:25 GMT
Message-ID: <4hqbpd$[e-mail]>

I am looking for some duplex 9600 baud modems to connect to the RS-232
port of a TNC and go to either a 2 wire or 4 wire circuit telephone
line.

Thanks, John K2LSX
[e-mail]



From [e-mail] Mon Mar 11 07:19:34 1996
From: [e-mail] (Kris Cordova)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Looking for Information about Dentron Linear
Date: 6 Mar 1996 20:10:57 GMT
Message-ID: <4hkrgh$[e-mail]>



--

Kris Cordova
[e-mail]



From [e-mail] Mon Mar 11 07:19:35 1996
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
From: [e-mail] (John Seney)
Subject: Re: Looking for Information about Dentron Linear
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Date: Sun, 10 Mar 1996 10:36:46 GMT
References: <4hkrgh$[e-mail]>

In article <4hkrgh$[e-mail]>,
[e-mail] (Kris Cordova) wrote:

> --
>
> Kris Cordova
> [e-mail]

I have heard that Dentron went out of business and that the original
owner then started another amp company called AMP Supply and that
it too went out of business. Assuming that is true, there are a
finite number of Dentron amps. I've owned one before and it worked
very well. But today, a problem could be replacement parts. Enough
were sold where one could get schematics easy enough.

73,


                 John D. Seney |_|_|_|_| E-mail: [e-mail]
          144 Pepperidge Drive |_|   |_| WWW http://www.mv.com/ipusers/wd1v
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 VM + Auto-Pager: 603-533-3472 | | | | | AX.25: [e-mail]

 LeCroy Sales Engineer + Applications/Sales/Customer Service + 800-553-2769
                 [See Latest Digital Scope.FAQ on my Home Page]

        We must believe in free will. We have no choice. (I.B. Singer)


From [e-mail] Mon Mar 11 07:19:37 1996
From: [e-mail] (Miroslav Skoric, B.Sc.)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Modems and ham rules
Date: 8 Mar 96 15:04:03 GMT
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

Hello folks,

Here you have a couple of questions to answer:

1. Me and the other hams here still have some difficulties with phone modem
port on FBB bbs software. Now, we have established succesfull and reliable
(?) link to bbs, I mean: CONNECT 2400 MNP5 etc etc, BUT, after a 1-30 mins
of list, read, write etc activities in bbs, an user recognize that nothing
he/she types on the keyboard goes to the bbs and vice-versa. Interesting is
that he/she is still on-line but nothing happening. After the hang-up done,
an user must wait for 10-15 mins before calling bbs again. If wait only 1'
then gets BUSY, if wait 5' then gets CONNECT... but nothing else (call and
password asking, welcome msg, prompt...). We entered this problem when got
upgraded from 286 to 386 PC and tried several internal/external modems at
various speeds, MNP and V.42 features, but every user finishes the seanse
before he/she wants. Any opinion?

2. We are preparing our annual conference in the YU7 ham union. One of the
points will be a regulative in our no-code class, called "E" class. I want
to know how it is your no-code class (if any) permitted to work digital
modes, max power and qrg's.

All replies will be re-replied, most interesting and usefull will be granted
a qsl card and a booklet from here! * Note your surface mail address! *

73 de Misko, YT7MPB, info manager in SRV Amateur radio union of Vojvodina,
Trg Mladenaca 10, 21000 Novi Sad, Yugoslavia.


From [e-mail] Mon Mar 11 07:19:38 1996
From: [e-mail] (Lars Friberg)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Need help  scanning with  ft757gx + kam
Date: Sun, 10 Mar 1996 17:52:02 GMT
Message-ID: <4hv4vp$[e-mail]>

Hi !Were can i find software to get my yaesu ft757gx + kam v7.1e
scanning different freq?
Planning to work a smaller bbs here.
73:s
Lasse (SM7OYP)





From [e-mail] Mon Mar 11 07:19:40 1996
From: [e-mail] (Paulo Teixeira,N3MGA)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Need Icom  Icom IC-22 mic pin assignment
Date: Mon, 04 Mar 1996 09:04:15 -0500
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

 I'm trying to help a friend overseas on how to hook up a TNC to the
microphone plug on a Icom IC 22 radio.I just need the configuration of
this plug,I believe the audio part is covered by a mini-plug.
Any info would be apreciated,reply to e-mail preferred

--
"Freedom of speech is the right to shout THEATRE! in a crowded fire"
                a yippie proverb





From [e-mail] Mon Mar 11 07:19:41 1996
From: Parker Kent <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc,rec.radio.amateur.homebrew,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.shortwave
Subject: Need Radio Clock Info.
Date: 6 Mar 1996 22:00:19 GMT
Message-ID: <4hl1tj$90r$[e-mail]>

I need any information I can get in
reguards to the radio signals sent from Germany
across Europe giving time information for
Radio Clocks.

Thanks,

Parker Kent


From [e-mail] Mon Mar 11 07:19:42 1996
From: [e-mail] (Ralph Cox)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: NET_Mac2.3.58.sea.hqx.text
Date: Sun, 03 Mar 1996 23:11:02 -0600
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]> <[e-mail]>

In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail]
(Bernie Pineda) wrote:

>In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Adam van
>Gaalen PA2AGA) wrote:
>
>>
>>                                           The Netherlands, February 19, 199
6.
>> Hello dear reader,
>>
>> NET/Mac v2.3.58 was born...
>>
>> For those who don't know NET/Mac...   NET/Mac is the application that
>> supports TCP/IP over packet-radio, which means, that hamradio operators
>> can use NET/Mac for their wireless TCP/IP network...
>>
>
>i tried editing the setup file with simpletext and wordperfect but it
>wouldn't recognise my edits...please help. thanks.
>
>--
Try sending an email message to [e-mail] (Adam van Gaalen PA2AGA)
and tell him exactly which setup files you are having problems with. He is
very helpful in answering any questions with NetMac.
Jon Peterson N9OUM


From [e-mail] Mon Mar 11 07:19:43 1996
From: [e-mail] (Adam van Gaalen PA2AGA)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: NET_Mac2.3.59.sea.hqx.text
Date: 6 Mar 96 14:26:31 GMT
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>


                                          The Netherlands, March 6, 1996.
Hello dear reader,

NET/Mac v2.3.59 was born...

For those who don't know NET/Mac...   NET/Mac is the application that
supports TCP/IP over packet-radio, which means, that hamradio operators
can use NET/Mac for their wireless TCP/IP network...

In this version of NET/Mac the following mods/features were implemented:

- Implemented 'deadlock breaker' of K5JB
- Make errormessages more helpful
- Enhance mailfile-handling for shared spool:mqueue folders
- Fix for 'smtp timer' command
- NET/Mac does NOT support the new Buckmaster CD-ROM's HAMCALL
  database yet... I am trying to convince Buckmaster that I need
  the new data-encryption-method, but as of yet they are not ready
  to release a description of the encoding-algorithm...
  The old CD-ROM's remain fully supported...

This version obsoletes all versions of info-mac/comm/radio-net-mac in
the Sumex-Aim.stanford.edu (and it's mirror-) archives.

The new NET/Mac has (hopefully) been uploaded to:

 - oak.oakland.edu, to the directory /pub/hamradio/mac/digital
 - ftp.ucsd.edu, to directory /hamradio/packet/tcpip/incoming.
   If it's not there (anymore), then look at /hamradio/packet/tcpip/mac.
 - hamster.business.uwo.ca, to directory /pub/amsoft
 - wa2zkd mirrors UCSD's incoming on his Landline BBS. Ham's w/o ftp
   can call 716-544-1863 or 2645.

NET/Mac will be uploaded to PI1HVH.AMPR.ORG, directory public/mac.

Adam PA2AGA e-mail: [e-mail] for mail to my office and BIG files
                or: [e-mail]      for letters only, NO BIG files here



From [e-mail] Mon Mar 11 07:19:45 1996
From: [e-mail] (destiny admin)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.antenna,rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc,rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.homebrew,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.policy
Subject: New Radio Program
Date: 7 Mar 1996 00:38:04 GMT
Message-ID: <4hlb5c$[e-mail]>

Destiny Software is a developer of video games like JAM! (shareware),
Darkseed II and Blood Bowl.  You can check out our WEB site at:

http://www.destiny-software.com/destiny

Now we're experimenting with RADIO!

We have just successfully broadcast good quality music and speech over
the internet (receiving with a 28 800 modem).  (Our compression
algorithm is much faster and better quality than others we've tried.)
We plan to allow non-commercial users to broadcast for free,
encouraging a wide variety of viewpoints in this new medium.
Commercial users are welcome to participate in BETA testing.

The compression is in real time on a 486, so we will support live
broadcasts as soon as we finish the initial testing.

So here's the scoop - we're looking for BETA testers.  If you would
like to become a broadcaster, you need:

1. A permanent IP address.
2. A dedicated machine (or permission to run background tasks)
3. You are either linked to the MBONE or you have a fast connection
4. If you are using a non-windows server, we may need access to your
account to compile for your particular machine.

Basically, you fill your hard drive with samples and a script file to
organize playback.  (The player will repeat the script when it
finishes).  Later we will upgrade so that broadcasters can go live by
plugging a signal into a PC sound card.

Listeners will enter your address into the radio program and voila,
your broadcast will begin playing.  The radio feature will be built
into our soon to be released freeware browser.

If you're interested, send email.

Thanks!








From [e-mail] Mon Mar 11 07:19:46 1996
From: [e-mail] (Dustin Moore)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Nos compiles
Date: Sat, 02 Mar 1996 22:09:47 GMT
Message-ID: <4hagtl$[e-mail]>

Does anyone know where there is a ftp site with a array of
jnos/mfnos/whatever compiles?..I'm trying to find one that will run
in DesqView. I've heard that dumping the netrom part gains enough
space. It would be handy to find one that also had the
packetsdriver/BPQ interfaces.
Dustin Moore [e-mail] http://www.teleport.com/~moore



From [e-mail] Mon Mar 11 07:19:47 1996
From: [e-mail] (Brian Ellsworth)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: Packet Digipeaters: What&How
Date: Sat, 09 Mar 1996 12:10:01 GMT
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]> <312c7699.57019942@cronkite> <[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail]

On Fri, 08 Mar 1996 11:49:22 GMT, [e-mail] (Robert
Walker) wrote:

>On Thu, 22 Feb 1996 14:06:28 GMT, [e-mail] (Brian
>Ellsworth) wrote:
>
>>me <[e-mail]> wrote:
>
>Hi Brian! Hey, if you're REALLY serious about a packet digi that is
>multi-protocol, multi-user, multi-speed and offers a NETROM Node as.....

(yawn)

>Just stick the device on a hilltop somewhere and wait for the local
>guys to explore all its features and possibilities....
>  Duz everything and some.........
>
ah, I didn't write the original question, it was Aaron KA1VOA from
Orono Maine.

By the way, I'm not the slightest bit interested in putting up a
hidden transmitter lame simplex node. I don't care if you spend
$10,000 on the latest wiz-bang tnc and software if you just 'stick it
up on a hill' someplace as a simplex node you're wasting bandwidth and
everyones time.

My only comment to the original thread was digi's don't work worth a
hoot, so why even bother. If you are REALLY serious and would like to
help, save the hugh amount of money you'd spend on that kantronics
box, pool it with some other rich operators, and  put up a digital
repeater.

-be


From [e-mail] Mon Mar 11 07:19:48 1996
From: [e-mail] (ThomasM910)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Pactor help please
Date: 9 Mar 1996 21:07:51 -0500
Message-ID: <4htdhn$[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail] (ThomasM910)

I am new to the digital modes and have yet to have a pactor qso.  my
questions:

-     does pactor use selcall?  or just my actual call?
-      where do you look to start a pactor conversation, ie call cq or
answer one?
-      I have heard some things that sound like pactor bulletin boards.
how does one connect?  is that what I am hearing when I come across
(almost) endless repititions of a call sign, with no other data?

last, if anyone can point me to a good source for basic pactor operations
I'd be grateful.  Thanks, Tom, AA0UU, [e-mail]



Tom Miller, Mpls., MN
Amateur Radio Station AA0UU

















From [e-mail] Mon Mar 11 07:19:49 1996
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
From: [e-mail] (Richard Berndt)
Subject: Re: PAKRATT or PKGOLD for PK232
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <4ftpn4$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]> <[e-mail]> <[e-mail]>
Date: Wed, 6 Mar 1996 05:42:18 GMT

*************sipped***********************
>Now I know midnight my time is nine PM their time, but that does not
>detract from their helpfulness.  On a Friday night, to get anybody to
>respond at all is fantastic, but to get a return call And a solution at
>nine o'clock his time is just outta' sight.

>That's the kind of people at Interflex.  I recommend their products
>every time I get the chance.

>They will always have my business, and I hope you give them yours.

>73

>Cheers,

>Kenneth F. Jones ( mailto:[e-mail] ) ( CIS:73135,1243 )
>http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/ken_jones
>PGP Key ID:FE99B25D; key avail on public servers

Ken,

I guess that you may and I say may be one that they have help with a
small to nothing problem.

They have yet and dont want to fix problems and program errors on PK96
and PK900.   Interflex seems to blame AEA for "ALL" the problems.

Stll waiting for info on upgrade to KAGOLD sent by E-MAIl with return
receipt.  Still not one word.  maybe they went broke.


Richard N7VWJ



From [e-mail] Mon Mar 11 07:19:50 1996
From: [e-mail] (Boris Tudan)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: PS-YAPP
Date: 5 Mar 1996 08:46:15 GMT
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <4hgv0n$[e-mail]>

HI!!!

I wonder if anybody knows where can I find SP with YAPP included.

TNX

9A3QM - Boris

--

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From [e-mail] Mon Mar 11 07:19:51 1996
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
From: [e-mail] (Gary Coffman)
Subject: Re: Realtime compression ax25?
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail] (Gary Coffman)
References: <[e-mail]> <[e-mail]> <4hk5a1$[e-mail]>
Date: Thu, 7 Mar 1996 16:23:16 GMT

In article <4hk5a1$[e-mail]> [e-mail] writes:
>I missed the beginning of this thread but I'll chime in anyway. One thing
>to consider... on a two way packet conversation where the text is something
>like:
><kf5mg> Hi Gary. How's the 56k project comming along.
><ke4vz> Speeding right along. How are things with you.
>etc....
>    where each string of characters between parties is short, your  going
>to get little, none, or Anti-Compression. Compression is mostly good when
>you've got a lot of data ( pbbs message for instance ) and you know what it
>is ahead of time. Play around with PKZIP. PKZIP a 1 line file of 40
>characters or so and compare the compressed, .zip file with the original.
>The compressed file is going to be 2 - 3 times larger.
>
>    Anyway... it's very difficult to get much compression on short strings
>you'd see in a two way QSO. Using a faster baud rate is really the best and
>only way to go in this case.

Not necessarily. You're assuming that compression is done in isolation
for each frame. That does not have to be the case. Compression can also
be done on a session basis. Then the "book" represents only a small
overhead, and if you use a standard book, no overhead at all. It's not
the most efficient compression method, but it will work and offer some
advantage even for sessions with short interactive frames.

For those not familiar with code book, or dictionary, compression,
each codeword is more than 7 bits long. Lets say it is 12 bits.
That allows for a code book of 4096 elements. A 12 bit codeword
could stand for an individual letter, but more productively it
could also stand for a simple word like "the", or a common word
ending like "ing". So, for these examples, you'd transmit 12 bits
in lieu of transmitting 21 (actually 24 if using packet octets).
That's almost a 2:1 compression. A longer common word like "radio"
would show even better compression "gain".

Think about the vocabulary you need for a routine amateur contact.
Do you think you need more than 4000 different words? If you do,
you've still got the alphabet available for the ocasional odd
word.

Gary
--
Gary Coffman KE4ZV          |    You make it,     | Due to provider problems
Destructive Testing Systems |    we break it.     | with previous uucp address
es
534 Shannon Way             |    Guaranteed!      | Email to [e-mail]
Lawrenceville, GA 30244     |                     |


From [e-mail] Mon Mar 11 07:19:52 1996
From: [e-mail]
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: Realtime compression ax25?
Date: 6 Mar 1996 13:40:52 GMT
Message-ID: <4hk4l5$[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]> <[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail]

In <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Gary Coffman
) writes:
>The Kantronics 2400 baud systems will work through unmodified radios,
>and the HAPN 4800 baud modems are also supposed to work through unmodified
>radios. There has been some work in Japan using the 9600 baud FAX modems
>for data through unmodified radios (though there are problems with this
>in a contending environment). So you aren't limited to just 1200 baud.

Does anyone know where to find the HAPN 4800 Baud modems? I've seen them
mentioned several times, but I never could find a source for them. If any
one knows where to find more info about them, please let me know. Thanks.

73's  de  Jack   -  kf5mg
Internet / hobby -  [e-mail]              - home [phone]
           work  -  [e-mail]               - work [phone]
+=========================================================================+
+     I am Homer of Borg.... prepare to be assim... oooo... Donuts...     +
+=========================================================================+



From [e-mail] Mon Mar 11 07:19:53 1996
From: [e-mail]
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: Realtime compression ax25?
Date: 6 Mar 1996 13:52:01 GMT
Message-ID: <4hk5a1$[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]> <[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail]

In <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Gary Coffman
) writes:
>In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] w
rites:
>>
>>Is  there anyone who experimented with it? Are there other digital modes to
>>reach higher througput using the small bandwith on 11 meters?
>
>Compression has become routine for BBS->BBS message forwarding, but I
>haven't heard of its use between ordinary user packet stations. There's
>no reason why it won't work, however. Non-packet digital, IE PACTOR,
>uses compression routinely.

I missed the beginning of this thread but I'll chime in anyway. One thing
to consider... on a two way packet conversation where the text is something
like:
<kf5mg> Hi Gary. How's the 56k project comming along.
<ke4vz> Speeding right along. How are things with you.
etc....
    where each string of characters between parties is short, your  going
to get little, none, or Anti-Compression. Compression is mostly good when
you've got a lot of data ( pbbs message for instance ) and you know what it
is ahead of time. Play around with PKZIP. PKZIP a 1 line file of 40
characters or so and compare the compressed, .zip file with the original.
The compressed file is going to be 2 - 3 times larger.

    Anyway... it's very difficult to get much compression on short strings
you'd see in a two way QSO. Using a faster baud rate is really the best and
only way to go in this case.

73's  de  Jack   -  kf5mg
Internet / hobby -  [e-mail]              - home [phone]
           work  -  [e-mail]               - work [phone]
+=========================================================================+
+     I am Homer of Borg.... prepare to be assim... oooo... Donuts...     +
+=========================================================================+



From [e-mail] Mon Mar 11 07:19:54 1996
From: [e-mail] (Michael Spenuk - VA3SP)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: Realtime compression ax25?
Date: Wed, 6 Mar 1996 18:19:42
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]> <[e-mail]> <4hk4l5$[e-mail]>

In article <4hk4l5$[e-mail]> [e-mail] writes:

>Does anyone know where to find the HAPN 4800 Baud modems? I've seen them
>mentioned several times, but I never could find a source for them. If any
>one knows where to find more info about them, please let me know. Thanks.

The modem was described by Glen Leinweber et al in Ham Radio, August 1988,
pp.10-21.

As far as I'm aware, the HAPN organization no longer exists.

>73's  de  Jack   -  kf5mg
>Internet / hobby -  [e-mail]              - home [phone]
>           work  -  [e-mail]               - work [phone]
>+=========================================================================+
>+     I am Homer of Borg.... prepare to be assim... oooo... Donuts...     +
>+=========================================================================+

73, Mike



From [e-mail] Mon Mar 11 07:19:55 1996
From: [e-mail] (Benedict P. Barszcz)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: s
Date: 10 Mar 1996 22:42:14 GMT
Message-ID: <4hvls6$[e-mail]>

s


From [e-mail] Mon Mar 11 07:19:56 1996
From: [e-mail] (Francis Flynn)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: TAI-CHI MASTER - 3/13 - PC THEATER
Date: 7 Mar 96 00:51:23 GMT
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.91.960306194958.9364A-100000@sequoia>
References: <[e-mail]>

On Wed, 6 Mar 1996, Ken Gunton wrote:

>
> What the hell is this all about?

> >|          THE TAI-CHI MASTER         |
> >|                                                               |
> >|       Directed by Yuen Woo Ping     |

I don't know, but maybe if we stop quoting it, it will go away.

Fran, KM1Z




From [e-mail] Mon Mar 11 07:19:57 1996
From: [e-mail] (Sune Nyholm)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: TEKK KS-1000 ??
Date: Fri, 08 Mar 96 00:43:37 GMT
Message-ID: <4hnv2d$[e-mail]>

Hello!

I need information from hams who has tested TEKK's newest datatransciever. Is
it working good on 9k6???

73 SM2IRZ


From [e-mail] Mon Mar 11 07:19:58 1996
From: [e-mail] (David L. Hinch)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: TEKK Radios
Date: 9 Mar 1996 15:02:09 -0800
Message-ID: <4ht2lh$[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]>

[e-mail] (Betchy) writes:
> I'm looking for a source for the TEkk line of data radios, thanks in
> advance for any input.
>
> [e-mail]

Tekk can be reached at 1-800-521-8355.  They will send you literature and
tell you about local distributers.  They also sell direct at full list
prices as I understand it.

73
Dave KE6MYC

--


From [e-mail] Mon Mar 11 07:19:59 1996
From: [e-mail] (Bob Nielsen)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: TNOS Conf Bridges
Date: 6 Mar 1996 21:24:01 -0700
Message-ID: <4hlod1$[e-mail]>
References: <4hdpbf$[e-mail]>

k1zat@puff (J.D. Delancy) wrote:

>Anyone have a feel for the IP that goes along with the
>TNOS/internet gateway in Tampa Fla ?

Internet side: lantz.com  123.125.16.1
AMPRnet side:  ko4ks.ampr.org  44.98.24.1







From [e-mail] Mon Mar 11 07:20:00 1996
From: k1zat@puff (J.D. Delancy)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: TNOS Conf Bridges
Date: 4 Mar 1996 03:51:11 GMT
Message-ID: <4hdpbf$[e-mail]>

Anyone have a feel for the IP that goes along with the
TNOS/internet gateway in Tampa Fla ?


jd  ([e-mail])



From [e-mail] Mon Mar 11 07:20:00 1996
From: Bill Crocker <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: VHF/UHF monitoring of digital signals?
Date: Fri, 08 Mar 1996 01:12:23 -0300
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

Strictly from a monitoring viewpoint, are their digital modes of interest
on VHF/UHF frequencies?  If so, what is the best decoder and software to use?

Thanks, Bill Crocker


From [e-mail] Mon Mar 11 07:20:01 1996
From: [e-mail] (Daniel Meredith)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: WINFBB Available
Date: 5 Mar 1996 18:19:02 -0700
Message-ID: <4hip66$[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail]


WINFBB 7.0 Is Now Available from the F6FBB SUPPORT BBS:
[phone]

WFBB7-00.ZIP


Sysop




From [e-mail] Mon Mar 11 13:53:21 1996
From: [e-mail] (ik8enh)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: Soundblaster Cards and WEFAX & SSTV
Date: Wed, 06 Mar 1996 21:47:48 GMT
Message-ID: <4hl11q$[e-mail]>
References: <4gb0f8$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]> <4gf73h$[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail]

Feroz Ghouse <[e-mail]> wrote:

>Hello Paul:

>Yeeeees!

>I would like more information on this and the software.

>I have been told that not all soundblaster cards will work. Is this true?

>Thank You
>73

>Feroz, 4S7FG/WU9N

HI Guys ,
please continue to pass the info on this newsgroup.
I am very interested.Thank-you very much for collaboration. 73 Nino
IK8ENH

e-mail          [e-mail]
AX.25           [e-mail]
or              IK8ENH  MR. Molaro Nino,Via R. Raiola 61
                        80053 C/mare di Stabia NA -ITALY




From [e-mail] Mon Mar 11 13:53:22 1996
From: [e-mail] (Ed Lang)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: What is a KAM worth $?
Date: Mon, 11 Mar 96 12:39:23 GMT
Message-ID: <4i17b8$[e-mail]>

KAM not the KAM+.  I do not know the rev of firmware.  How much is one
worth now?




73  Ed Lang
KC4YLX
[e-mail]


From [e-mail] Sat Mar 16 15:41:51 1996
From: [e-mail] (Paul)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: (none)
Date: 11 Mar 96 17:00:13 GMT
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

subscribe



From [e-mail] Sat Mar 16 15:41:52 1996
From: [e-mail] (Paul)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: (none)
Date: 11 Mar 96 16:32:58 GMT
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

subscribe



From [e-mail] Sat Mar 16 15:41:53 1996
From: Drew <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: *** Test ***
Date: Wed, 6 Mar 1996 23:37:58 -0500
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <4hc4m7$[e-mail]>

On 3 Mar 1996, Mike - KB9LPJ wrote:

> Date: 3 MAR 1996 12:52:23 GMT
> From: Mike - KB9LPJ <[e-mail]>
> Newgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
> Subject: *** Test ***
>
> This is a test to learn how to use the news group.
>
This is a test to learn how to reply to a news group.

>
>
>

/<><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><>\
|--------------------------------Andrew Scott--------------------------------|
|[e-mail]-------------------------|
\<><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><>/




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From: <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: A USA QSL BURO
Date: 12 Mar 1996 00:50:34 GMT
Message-ID: <4i2hoq$[e-mail]>
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From [e-mail] Sat Mar 16 15:41:57 1996
From: [e-mail] (Joe Burnham)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: Baycom/PMP  vs ?
Date: 13 Mar 1996 20:14:20 -0500
Message-ID: <4i7rtc$[e-mail]>
References: <4hmsk1$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]>

Jim Devenport ([e-mail]) wrote:
: I have tried 2 different commercial TNC's, Kantronics KPC2 and Pac-comm,
: and any and all the homebrew modems I have tried outperform either of
: these SO FAR as PACKET IS CONCERNED.  If you want other modes in a

I'm sorry, but I disagree 100 percent.  I have a Baycom modem here, and
have run Baycom 1.4 and 1.5 on it many times, and while it is
"acceptable" it has always been very much INFERIOR to *any* packet
activity I have done on ANY TNC...beginning with the original TNC-1!

Since 1988, when I started in packet, I've owned and operated:

TNC-1 (still use it today)
KPC2
KPC3
KAM
MFJ 1270
MFH 1278

It's true that some of the early TNC's *did* have birdies that could land
near a particular operating frequency, but this problem has (as far as I
know) been solved for quite some time.

I ahve always experienced far greater throughput when using a TNC instead
of the BAYCOM modem and software (which I have tried rpeeatedly, over
several months, for several years).

BAYCOM and PMP have their merits...they are the most inexpensive way to
get into packet (unless you find a used "basic" TNC)...and the terminal
software is nice (though there are a slew of commercial and shareware
programs now that do as much and more than BAYCOM...check out the
shareware versions of eSkay Packet (SP) for example).

73... Joe
WD4KAV @ WD4KAV.#STUFL.FLU.USA.NOAM (packet)
[e-mail] (Internet)

...happily running JNOS 110m on a TNC-1 with a 8 Mhz IBM AT with 640K...
   (who says you have to operate with the latest hardware and software
   to enjoy packet radio and networking?)

--
.... Joe Burnham
 Packet Radio: WD4KAV @ WD4KAV.#STU.FL.USA.NOAM
 INTERNET:      [e-mail]


From [e-mail] Sat Mar 16 15:41:58 1996
From: Rick Wilson <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: BBS sysops (EU) wanted
Date: 12 Mar 1996 13:08:50 GMT
Message-ID: <4i3t12$[e-mail]>


The following is a translation of a posting from Fabrizio, IW3RXV, a BBS sysop
.

Please respond directly to him.
-=-=-=-=-
I am looking for any sysop of an fbb-type BBS with whom I can establish a
relationship to do e-mail forwarding for an immediate link through Italy, a go
od
message link.
73 + 51 de Fabrizio
*******************
Fabrizio Vallefuoco
e-mail addr: [e-mail]
Ampr. addr.: [e-mail]
AX25 addr.: [e-mail]


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fax [phone] | voice 217 221 6137 | ham call W0KT
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From [e-mail] Sat Mar 16 15:41:59 1996
From: [e-mail] (Doug)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.swap,rec.radio.shortwave,rec.radio.scanner,rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc,alt.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: BEWARE OF DEALING WITH DERRICK HALL, SEAT
Date: 12 Mar 1996 00:56:46 GMT
Message-ID: <4i2i4e$[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail] <4gks9a$[e-mail]> <4gon7k$[e-mail]> <4hnu68$fd3@nnt <[e-mail]>



Nope, not mail fraud when using a common carrier, ie UPS/FEDEX.

Recommend you contact them...last time I had a problem, UPS had an investigato
r
at the house the next day

Doug


From [e-mail] Sat Mar 16 15:42:00 1996
From: "Dr. Duncan Clark" <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: DX-cluster RX using an Atari Portfolio?
Date: Fri, 15 Mar 1996 17:04:27 +0000
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

Hi Folks,

Does anyone know if there is any packet software for receiving 2m DX
cluster that will run on a 4 year old Atari Portfolio ie 8086 with built
in DOS, 128k RAM and up to 128k RAM data memory card, RS232 port. I have
one doing nothing and it would sit very nicely by the main rig. It
appears to survive the 400w linear and doesn't generate hash. I just
need appropriate low memory usage software for a suiatble 1200 TNC.

Regards

Duncan
G4ELJ
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From [e-mail] Sat Mar 16 15:42:01 1996
From: [e-mail] (Fabrizio (IW3RXV))
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Forward via E-mail
Date: Sat, 09 Mar 1996 21:52:53 GMT
Message-ID: <4ht1cq$[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail]

Hallo all. I'm a collaborator of IV3AVQ BBs based in Italy , and I'
search a Sysop for have a Fwd via E-mail , ONLY FBB system..
TNX and 73 de IW3RXV and IV3AVQ bbs.
******************************************
IW3RXV Op. Fabrizio
E-mail addr.:[e-mail]
Ampr. addr. :[e-mail]
AX25  addr. :[e-mail]
******************************************



From [e-mail] Sat Mar 16 15:42:02 1996
From: [e-mail] (Kevin Clark)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: hamcom inteface
Date: 12 Mar 1996 14:28:30 -0800
Message-ID: <4i4tqe$[e-mail]>


Does anyone know the programming requirements for setting up
a hamcom interface for use in your onw program?

clark



From [e-mail] Sat Mar 16 15:42:03 1996
From: [e-mail] (Gerard Hill)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: HAPN 4800 bps modems
Date: 11 Mar 96 00:28:22 GMT
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]>

> In <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Gary
Coffman) writes:
> >The Kantronics 2400 baud systems will work through unmodified radios,
> >and the HAPN 4800 baud modems are also supposed to work through unmodified
> >radios. There has been some work in Japan using the 9600 baud FAX modems
> >for data through unmodified radios (though there are problems with this
> >in a contending environment). So you aren't limited to just 1200 baud.

Unfortunately the HAPN 4800 baud modem will not work with unmodified radios.
They will work with FM and PM radios though and do not require a transmitter
modulator response down to DC that is required with 9600 bps modems. So they
are less demanding on the type of radio you use than 9600. They can be made to

work even with synthesised radios.

> Does anyone know where to find the HAPN 4800 Baud modems? I've seen them
> mentioned several times, but I never could find a source for them. If any
> one knows where to find more info about them, please let me know. Thanks.

HAPN do still exist. You can contact them at:
        H.A.P.N.
        5193 White Church Rd,
        Mount Hope, Ontario,
        Canada L0R 1W0

Cheers ... Gerard VK2DAA


From [e-mail] Sat Mar 16 15:42:04 1996
From: [e-mail] (Rikhardur Sveinsson)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: help! KISS & KPC-9612!
Date: 11 Mar 1996 15:14:11 GMT
Message-ID: <4i1g03$[e-mail]>

I have a Kantronics KPC-9612 with version 5.2...

Is there a BUG???? I have been trying to get this modem to
work with JNOS with out luck...The only response I get
is very fast blink of tha STA led.!

The cable is DB25<->DB25 and I connected
2-2 3-3 4-4 5-5 6-6 7-7 8-8 20-20

What could be wrong..?

Benedikt Sveinsson

TF3BNT



From [e-mail] Sat Mar 16 15:42:05 1996
From: [e-mail] (Dick Mock)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: HF Packet. Is it worth setting up?
Date: 14 Mar 96 02:16:09 GMT
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>


>Date: 10 Mar 96 20:56:41 -0800
>From: [e-mail] (Debora Buffington)
>Subject: HF Packet. Is it worth setting up?

>On HF, the main qso modes are Pactor and RTTY (Pactor
>is the most active)
>
>Most or all of the HF packet you hear is automated
>forwarding.  It isn't a very good mode for HF, and few
>folks bother live qsos on HF packet.
>
>Roger, Ab6wr
>

That almost rings as a clever ploy!  Simply saying, "It isn't a very
good mode for HF,"  sounds to me like, "Please don't use the
'HF packet channels' for QSO's.  Stay out of the forwarders' hair."

I agree that HF packet protocols can be improved. But right now
... TODAY... if it weren't un-gentlemanly to use the other
"teleprinter"
channels, HF packet could use the HF spectrum more efficiently than
even Pactor.   (And I love Pactor.)  But pactor will not tolerate
more than one QSO on the channel.  Maybe that's the big reason it's
a favorite when you really think of it.

Actually, I would think pactor would be one of the better modes
for forwarding packet traffic.  HF packet is great for QSO's when the
channel is not bonkers with users.

Dick - W7DHS
[e-mail]
////////////////////////////////////////////////////////



From [e-mail] Sat Mar 16 15:42:06 1996
From: [e-mail] (Bob Biekert)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: KPC9612
Date: Wed, 13 Mar 96 04:02:18 GMT
Message-ID: <4i5hct$[e-mail]>

HELP... have KCP9612 with 6.0
My tnc keeps hard reseting itself... somewhat repeatable.. if someone connects

to my gateway, then back to my node and does a mh .. it crashes... loses all
settings...
Any ideas? Sounds like a firmware bug to me
73
Bob

Bob Biekert   --   Houston Texas
[e-mail]
[e-mail], [e-mail]
http://clarc.phoenix.net/~ka5glx


From [e-mail] Sat Mar 16 15:42:07 1996
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Linux users....HELP!
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
From: "D.R. Christiansen (GM7RTH)" <[e-mail]>
Date: Wed, 13 Mar 1996 18:56:37 +0000

I am wanting to set  up my linux station for packet...if you have done
this..then please mail me a 'baby' language insructions of how to do
it!..

Thanks....
David
GM7RTH@gb7eiy.#78.gbr.eu

but mail me on [e-mail]
byeeee


From [e-mail] Sat Mar 16 15:42:08 1996
From: Mziggi <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Looking for decoding software
Date: 16 Mar 1996 02:08:36 GMT
Message-ID: <4id7r5$[e-mail]>

I am looking for any information about all-mode decoding software,
particularly those that interface the recv' throught the PC sound card. I
already have the basic CW software. Now looking for RTTY, amtor, sitor
,etc.. If anyone has anything or can point me in the right direction I'd
appreciate it.



From [e-mail] Sat Mar 16 15:42:09 1996
From: [e-mail] (Al Gerheim)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Need UT, WY, VT and DE on RTTY
Date: 13 Mar 1996 12:12:17 GMT
Message-ID: <4i6e31$[e-mail]>

If you can help, please email.

--
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[e-mail] | no shoes till I met a  | 215 Parkway North
1 [phone] X218 | man who had no class.  | Waterford CT 06385
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From [e-mail] Sat Mar 16 15:42:10 1996
From: Phil Keller <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Network over Packet
Date: Mon, 11 Mar 1996 17:28:27 -0800
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

I have been asked, by the local Fire Department, to look into the possibility
of using packet in times of emergency.  They, like any government agency, are
driven by forms and proper reporting of incidents, materials requested and
consumed.  What they would like is to be able to have an operator on a
computer on the scene, enter the data into the proper electronic form and to
have it printed out at the EOC.

If this were a wired network and I would have suggested that they simply use
Windows-For-Workgroups with its ability to share resources and printers.
This way they could simply specify the printer that is located at the EOC and
print it out.

Since I do not have the advantage of wire between sites I was thinking that
there must be a way to create a virtual network between the two sites.  I
understand that this will be slow, but hopefully what ever solution is
implemented can support 5600 baud and that will help ease the pain.

What are my options and what do you recommend?

Places to go.....

Literature to read ....


-Phil-
====================================
"Those who avoid decapitation,
 leave more offspring."
    -Carl Sagan
Phil Keller                    N6MWC
mailto:[e-mail]


From [e-mail] Sat Mar 16 15:42:11 1996
From: [e-mail] (James W. Barr)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Packet and Win95?
Date: 14 Mar 1996 07:38:10 -0600
Message-ID: <4i97g2$[e-mail]>

Has anyone been able to use TCP/IP using Windows 95?  It seems to me that
all we need is a driver written and we couls access LOTS of stuff through
Win95's integrated TCP/IP.  Slowly, of course ;-)
--
-Jim

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From [e-mail] Sat Mar 16 15:42:12 1996
From: [e-mail] (Daniel P Cristina)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Packet Bulletin Availability
Date: 8 Mar 1996 01:52:41 -0600
Message-ID: <4hop09$[e-mail]>

Thanks to all that reply:

Is there a site that is accessable via internet to retrieve current
packet bulletins, etc.; @WW, @ALLUS.

Would prefer to be able to d/l zipped files if possible to be imported
int a MSYS packet system here in New Orleans.

There are many packet systems available, but most don't have the buls
available in file form.

Thanks for any help and direction...

Danny/N5OMG



From [e-mail] Sat Mar 16 15:42:13 1996
From: [e-mail] (Bob Austin)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Pactor help please
Date: 10 Mar 1996 13:26:39 GMT
Message-ID: <4hulaf$[e-mail]>
References: <4htdhn$[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail]

In message <4htdhn$[e-mail]> - [e-mail]
(ThomasM910) writes:
:>
:>I am new to the digital modes and have yet to have a pactor qso.  my
:>questions:
:>
:>-     does pactor use selcall?  or just my actual call?
:>-      where do you look to start a pactor conversation, ie call cq or
:>answer one?

( actual call )
connects are dependent on the Controller you are using. I use the PacComm
controller and the command is: Connect Callsign
on the PK232 the command is:  PTCon Callsign

:>-      I have heard some things that sound like pactor bulletin boards.
:>how does one connect?  is that what I am hearing when I come across
:>(almost) endless repititions of a call sign, with no other data?

( signal )
the pactor signal sounds very simular to amtor(bursts of signal)
amtor send/receive signals are the same duration - approx 1 sec
pactor send/receive signals are send-approx 2.5sec, recv-approx 1sec

:>
:>last, if anyone can point me to a good source for basic pactor operations
:>I'd be grateful.  Thanks, Tom, AA0UU, [e-mail]
:>

ARRL has a book called 'Your HF Digital Companion' (for starters)
:>
:>
:>Tom Miller, Mpls., MN
:>Amateur Radio Station AA0UU
:>
:>

73
Regards,

Bob
        Atlanta, GA.   Hosting the 1996 Olympic Games



From [e-mail] Sat Mar 16 15:42:14 1996
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
From: Jim Berry <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Pactor help please
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
To: [e-mail]
References: <4htdhn$[e-mail]>
Date: Tue, 12 Mar 1996 07:23:48 GMT

Hi Tom,

I don't know if I will be of much help here but should get you going
somewhat.

>-     does pactor use selcall?  or just my actual call?
Pactor uses the full call.
>-      where do you look to start a pactor conversation, ie call cq or
>answer one?
Band conditions are pretty crummy but you should be able to find someone
to talk to in the the 3600 3650 Khz area (80 meters)  7065 to 7065 to
7085 area on 40 meters.  20 meters in the 14065 to 14095 area.  Now this
is right of the top of my head.  There are more exacting and specific
areas but this should give you a 'ballpark' starting area.
>-      I have heard some things that sound like pactor bulletin boards.
>how does one connect?  is that what I am hearing when I come across
>(almost) endless repititions of a call sign, with no other data?
>
If you bring up a BBS (called MBO's) they will pretty much walk you thru
a proceedure.  Bye typing HELP they will tell you all about it.  That
endless string of calls you may be seeing is someone calling someone.  An
example would be if you were to call me you would send K7SLI over and
over until my system answered.

I do run one of those MBO's and it, and others, can be good practice but
unless you can rattle out the op you will have to talk to a machine.
Even though, good practice.

If you are interested in more information let me know.  I will try and
think of a good nuts and bolts publication you can look at that would get
you going.
>last, if anyone can point me to a good source for basic pactor operations

73 Jim K7SLI





From [e-mail] Sat Mar 16 15:42:16 1996
From: [e-mail]
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Q: Alinco 1200 @ 9600b
Date: 14 Mar 1996 20:09:59 GMT
Message-ID: <4i9uen$[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail]

   I'm currently running a 9600b link using a pair of Alinco 1200 Data
Radios. ( The Data Radio part is a JOKE! ) Anyway... does anyone have any
mods that will allow you to use a faster TXDELAY than 350ms or so? I've
been told by someone who knows alot more about this than me that the Phase
Lock Loop in the receiver doesn't work fast enought to do much faster than
a 350ms TXDELAY. Just thought I'd check in here and see if anyone know of
any additional mods for the radios to do 9600b a bit better. Thanks.

73's  de  Jack   -  kf5mg
Internet / hobby -  [e-mail]              - home [phone]
           work  -  [e-mail]               - work [phone]
+=========================================================================+
+     I am Homer of Borg.... prepare to be assim... oooo... Donuts...     +
+=========================================================================+



From [e-mail] Sat Mar 16 15:42:17 1996
From: [e-mail]
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Q: MFJ 2mtr Data Radios
Date: 14 Mar 1996 20:06:52 GMT
Message-ID: <4i9u8s$[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail]

   Does anyone have any experience with the MFJ Data Radio running on a
9600b link? I read the Apr96 ( or was it Mar96 ) that had a small, write up
on it. The article indicated that it had a poor receiver and that the
author didn't try and do any 9600b stuff. Any info on it's performance or
mods needed for 9600b would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.

73's  de  Jack   -  kf5mg
Internet / hobby -  [e-mail]              - home [phone]
           work  -  [e-mail]               - work [phone]
+=========================================================================+
+     I am Homer of Borg.... prepare to be assim... oooo... Donuts...     +
+=========================================================================+



From [e-mail] Sat Mar 16 15:42:17 1996
From: william russell <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Sale KPC9612
Date: Tue, 12 Mar 1996 21:25:09 -0800
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

Hello and thanks for reading as stated I have a KPC9612 still NEW in the
box i just never got into it and moved on to other things. i'll
sell for $150 thats shipped to your door and insured still has everything
that came with it, The only thing i did was opened the box.

EMAIL:  [e-mail]
PHONE:  [phone]
                                      Thanks Scot (KB5YXQ)


From [e-mail] Sat Mar 16 15:42:19 1996
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
From: [e-mail] (Gary Coffman)
Subject: Re: Spread Spectrum QRP
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail] (Gary Coffman)
References: <137cc$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]>
Date: Mon, 11 Mar 1996 17:49:27 GMT

In article <[e-mail]> kd6mzm@r
icochet.net writes:
>I would be interested in working with developing a spread spectrum modem for
>amateur use.
>In fact I am connected with one right now via a commercial provicer who
>also offers full internet ppp access to the web.  The ease of use is so
>convincing.. no vires to drag no sour family faces to see because the phone
>line is busy.  I fact one can be on the net and at the same time talk someone
>through the telephone. Also the spread spectrum modems during an emergency
>situation would serve well as city wide computer network.
>
>kd6mzm

Ah, an actual ricochet customer. How's the throughput, really? What
kind of bytes/sec do you get for ftp? And what does it *feel* like
during an interactive session? (IE does it feel like a 2400 baud telco
modem, a 9600 baud modem, a 28.8 modem, etc) And can you tell a difference
due to customer loading? (IE how consistent is the throughput?)

I'm very interested in this technology, a first hand user report would
be very welcome.

Gary

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Destructive Testing Systems |    we break it.     | with previous uucp address
es
534 Shannon Way             |    Guaranteed!      | Email to [e-mail]
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From [e-mail] Sat Mar 16 15:42:19 1996
From: [e-mail] (AlanPercy)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: Spread Spectrum QRP
Date: 12 Mar 1996 01:59:40 -0500
Message-ID: <4i37ct$[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail] (AlanPercy)

Tell us what equipment you are using!!!

 We here in the Buffalo area are trying to setup a network of Part 15 S.S.
systems for gaining access to the Internet, but we can't decide which way
to go!  Some of the BreezeCom stuff looks really great, but before we
spend the money, I would love a personal recommendation.

Tell us more!!!


-------
A nanosecond here, a nanosecond there, the next thing you know,
  you have real-time.


From [e-mail] Sat Mar 16 15:42:20 1996
From: [e-mail] (Richard Volpe)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: sucks
Date: Tue, 12 Mar 1996 11:18:37 GMT
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Distribution: world

this really sucks


From [e-mail] Sat Mar 16 15:42:21 1996
From: Gary Pearce KN4AQ <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: Window Packet Software for KAM+ ??
Date: Thu, 14 Mar 1996 07:10:18 -0500
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <4hgq0g$[e-mail]>
To: "Richard D. Gill" <[e-mail]>

Richard D. Gill wrote:
>
> Hi..I am getting ready to buy a KAM+ TNC to replace my PK232..
> My question is there any windows packet software that will alow dual
> port operation like the Kamtronics Host Master II software.??? I do not
> believe that Hostmaster II software will run under Windows..If I am
> incorrect about this please let me know....Thanks..73's
>
> Rich  KQ6EF    E-Mail richsnol@.ix.netcom.com

Hostmaster will run fine in a DOS window.

For something more elegant, try KaWin, a true windows program.  You can
download it to test from:

http://www.mutadv.com/kawin/

It's a bit expensive -- $79 at last check, but it does a lot of nice stuff.
I've seen references to other high-end Windows software for Kantronics
(KaGold, I believe), but I haven't tried it.

73,
Gary KN4AQ


From [e-mail] Sat Mar 16 15:42:22 1996
From: [e-mail] (Kerry Banke)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: WTD: Ottawa packet group PI or PI2 board
Date: 12 Mar 1996 15:17:01 GMT
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>


 I am in the process of trying to set up a pair of Grapes  56Kb modems to
work through our San Diego Microwave Group 10 GHz wideband repeater. I
need to borrow or purchase two Ottawa PI or PI2 boards. I understand these
boards available from the Ottawa packet group. Does anyone have boards
they'd like to sell or loan or have the contact info as to where to buy
these? Thanks  - Kerry N6IZW -


From [e-mail] Thu Mar 21 13:46:36 1996
From: [e-mail] (Brad Killebrew)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: 56k modem and UHF rig.
Date: 19 Mar 1996 14:42:03 GMT
Message-ID: <4imh3r$[e-mail]>


Hi Folks.

I need to be pointed in the direction where I can find a 56k modem
(already built or kit is fine) and a UHF radio that can handle this
type of xfer.

I'm sick and tired of 1200 baud packet and I'm ready to upgrade.
Any suggestions would be welcome.

--
Brad Killebrew N5LJV  [e-mail]
Systems Administrator, Village Online



From [e-mail] Thu Mar 21 13:46:37 1996
From: [e-mail] (John Boyer)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: 56k modem and UHF rig.
Date: 20 Mar 1996 11:37:17 GMT
Message-ID: <4ioqld$[e-mail]>
References: <4imh3r$[e-mail]>

Brad Killebrew ([e-mail]) wrote:
:
: Hi Folks.
:
: I need to be pointed in the direction where I can find a 56k modem
: (already built or kit is fine) and a UHF radio that can handle this
: type of xfer.
:
: I'm sick and tired of 1200 baud packet and I'm ready to upgrade.
: Any suggestions would be welcome.
:
: --
: Brad Killebrew N5LJV  [e-mail]
: Systems Administrator, Village Online
:


Check out the grapes homepage on http://www.mindspring.com/~bobm/grapes/grapes
.html  or siskin for a ready built one, but hold onto
your wallet. You can transmit
 with a micowave modules transverter, but the biggest problem is that the 56k
sig is about 75k wide at it's 30dB points.
Plus you need a suitable card to dive the modem with.
j.

--

 **************************************************************
 *     John Boyer, BBC Research & Development Department      *
 *         Kingswood Warren, Tadworth, Surrey, KT20 6NP       *
 * email: [e-mail]                             *
 * phone: [phone]                 fax:    [phone]   *
 **************************************************************


From [e-mail] Thu Mar 21 13:46:38 1996
From: [e-mail] (Kevin Anderson)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: APLink?  APRS?  Automated HF digital stations?
Date: 18 Mar 1996 09:48:02 -0500
Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.91.960318084440.2780B-100000@ncrsun1>

I'm looking for an elmer(s) to correspond with to help me
understand some digital systems.  I wasn't finding the
info I needed/wanted in FAQs.

APLink?

APRS?

Automated HF digital stations?

I am particularly interested in understanding the interactions
of these systems.  Thanks.  Cheers/73.   Kevin, KB9IUA

* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Kevin L. Anderson, CENCR-PD-W, U.S. Army Corps of Engineers
Rock Island District Office, Planning Div.-Waterway Systems
Rock Island, Illinois 61204-2004, USA  phone:[phone]
      e-mail:  [e-mail]
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Opinions expressed here are my own and do not represent the
  U.S. Army Corps of Engineers or the Federal Government.




From [e-mail] Thu Mar 21 13:46:39 1996
From: [e-mail] ()
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Aussie Web Page with @vknet downloads
Date: Tue, 12 Mar 1996 23:55:58 GMT
Message-ID: <4i4vhj$[e-mail]>

Hello OM's

I have built a test web page on behalf of the Blue Mountains Amateur
Radio Club..  It is my first attempt so all suggestions are welcome.

This page has ALSO got a @vknet file download facility.  It is only
http and not ftp.

Have a look and tell me what you think...

Cheers..Pete..vk2yx



From [e-mail] Thu Mar 21 13:46:41 1996
From: [e-mail] (Wm Kresl)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: Baycom/PMP  vs ?
Date: Sat, 16 Mar 1996 06:37:32 GMT
Message-ID: <4idnmm$[e-mail]>
References: <4hmsk1$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]> <4i7rtc$[e-mail]>


Here's my two cents: I have built ALL of my own BAYCOM/PMP modems
for my personal use as well as for other folks. They all used the
TCM3105JL single chip modem. This chip has a critical RECEIVE BIAS
(RXB) voltage that MUST be set properly for good receiving of packets.
This DC bias voltage is best set using a trimpot voltage divider, as
opposed to the STANDARD BAYCOM modem design of a fixed voltage
divider. Many 'REAL' TNC's still use this modem chip, along with the
fixed bias.  These modem chips will receive packets poorly whether in
a homemade PMP modem, or a brand new KPC-3 TNC if the bias is not
correctly set (see TI's own data sheet on these chips). A very rough
bias set point is +2.65vdc.

I wrote a more "TECHNICALLY-CORRECT" tune-up method that
appeared in the DECEMBER 1991 issue of 73 magazine that
describes making this adjustment with some test software, scope,
and loopback cable. Properly adjusted, the cheapie BAYCOM/PMP
modems can go head-to-head with any other like fitted TNC (perhaps
surpassing them) in the receive area.

I agree about the ESKAY SUPER PACKET program, it is GREAT! However,
no longer a shareware program. If you want some more fun, try the NPF
PMS software on top of the G8BPQ packet switch with the TFPCX driver
underneath. A full FBB compatible BBS/PMS/NODE/DIGI for your pleasure!
Cheerio!

Wm Kresl
WB9BBC



[e-mail] (Joe Burnham) wrote:

>Jim Devenport ([e-mail]) wrote:
>: I have tried 2 different commercial TNC's, Kantronics KPC2 and Pac-comm,
>: and any and all the homebrew modems I have tried outperform either of
>: these SO FAR as PACKET IS CONCERNED.  If you want other modes in a

>I'm sorry, but I disagree 100 percent.  I have a Baycom modem here, and
>have run Baycom 1.4 and 1.5 on it many times, and while it is
>"acceptable" it has always been very much INFERIOR to *any* packet
>activity I have done on ANY TNC...beginning with the original TNC-1!

>Since 1988, when I started in packet, I've owned and operated:

>TNC-1 (still use it today)
>KPC2
>KPC3
>KAM
>MFJ 1270
>MFH 1278

>It's true that some of the early TNC's *did* have birdies that could land
>near a particular operating frequency, but this problem has (as far as I
>know) been solved for quite some time.

>I ahve always experienced far greater throughput when using a TNC instead
>of the BAYCOM modem and software (which I have tried rpeeatedly, over
>several months, for several years).

>BAYCOM and PMP have their merits...they are the most inexpensive way to
>get into packet (unless you find a used "basic" TNC)...and the terminal
>software is nice (though there are a slew of commercial and shareware
>programs now that do as much and more than BAYCOM...check out the
>shareware versions of eSkay Packet (SP) for example).

>73... Joe
>WD4KAV @ WD4KAV.#STUFL.FLU.USA.NOAM (packet)
>[e-mail] (Internet)

>...happily running JNOS 110m on a TNC-1 with a 8 Mhz IBM AT with 640K...
>   (who says you have to operate with the latest hardware and software
>   to enjoy packet radio and networking?)

>--
>.... Joe Burnham
> Packet Radio: WD4KAV @ WD4KAV.#STU.FL.USA.NOAM
> INTERNET:      [e-mail]




From [e-mail] Thu Mar 21 13:46:42 1996
From: [e-mail] (Robert Wood)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.swap,rec.radio.shortwave,rec.radio.scanner,rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc,alt.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: BEWARE OF DEALING WITH DERRICK HALL, SEAT
Date: 13 Mar 1996 06:00:14 GMT
Message-ID: <4i5o9e$[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail] <4gks9a$[e-mail]> <4gon7k$[e-mail]> <4hnu68$fd3@nnt <[e-mail]> <4i2i4e$[e-mail]>

Doug ([e-mail]) wrote:


: Nope, not mail fraud when using a common carrier, ie UPS/FEDEX.

: Recommend you contact them...last time I had a problem, UPS had an investiga
tor
: at the house the next day

: Doug
This beats the US Post Office - hands down.  All I got from the
US mail was a nice form letter.  Basically stating we don't have time
for little problems.  73  Robert


From [e-mail] Thu Mar 21 13:46:43 1996
From: "Dan Hubert (VE9DAN)" <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: C64 to Knwd Interface
Date: Fri, 15 Mar 1996 21:32:07 -0800
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

Has anyone successfully interfaced the C64 computer to the Kenwood rigs
to perform rig control duties? It was easily done using a 486 computer,
but the units don't want to shake hands when using the C64.

4800 baud...Petscii vs ascii... etc, etc, but still no response.
Info will be appreciated.
Tnx
Dan...VE9DAN


From [e-mail] Thu Mar 21 13:46:44 1996
From: [e-mail] (Christopher K Greenhalgh)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: custom packet cable
Date: 14 Mar 1996 17:28:23 GMT
Message-ID: <4i9kvn$[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]>

In article <[e-mail]>,
gary metzler <[e-mail]> wrote:

>hi all,
>can someone out there tell me if there is a company that makes custom
>packet radio cables?  I have an Icom IC281h 2 meter radio that has jacks
>on the back for packet connections.  I don't want to use a cable that
>goes into the front mick cable.  If possible I would like it to have a
>cap on it that would cover all the wires and will hold both plugs.  any
>help would be appreciated.  thanks 73 gary
>--
>gary metzler (kn4ox)

Well Gary, most make their own cables...its very easy...you only need be
of entry level skill with a soldering gun to make cables, but, there is
a place that makes custom packet cables that are well built, and look
very nice. It is;

Universal Radio
6830 Americana Parkway
Reynoldsburg, OH.
[phone]

Just call 'em up, tell them what rig and TNC you have, give 'em the money
(credit card number), and they will send it to you when their done. It
usually takes less than a week, and I believe the typical cable is about
$14.00.

Take care.



--
Christopher K. Greenhalgh, N8WCT
Computer/Electronic Tech. II at The Ohio State University
E-Mail: [e-mail] ([e-mail])
Radio : n8wct@w8cqk.#cmh.oh.usa.noam


From [e-mail] Thu Mar 21 13:46:46 1996
From: [e-mail] (gary metzler)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: custom packet cable
Date: 13 Mar 1996 18:00:27 -0500
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

hi all,
can someone out there tell me if there is a company that makes custom
packet radio cables?  I have an Icom IC281h 2 meter radio that has jacks
on the back for packet connections.  I don't want to use a cable that
goes into the front mick cable.  If possible I would like it to have a
cap on it that would cover all the wires and will hold both plugs.  any
help would be appreciated.  thanks 73 gary
--
gary metzler (kn4ox)
e-mail [e-mail]
...men can't ask for directions on the internet either!

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From [e-mail] Thu Mar 21 13:46:47 1996
From: [e-mail] (Robert Davis)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: Digicom on the Commodore SX64
Date: 20 Mar 1996 09:44:29 -0700
Message-ID: <4ipcld$[e-mail]>
References: <4io10p$[e-mail]>

[e-mail] (Dave Ingram) writes:

>I have recently got hold of the plans for the Digicom packet modem
>for a C64 (the ancestor of the Baycom).  The wiring plan shows that
>it should be connected to the Cassette port of the C64.  The problem
>I have is that I own an SX64 (built in 5" CRT and floppy drive)
>which has no cassette port.  Is there a variant of the digicom
>software that works with the user port?

>If you have any information, please let me know.


>Thanks in advance,
>       Dave Ingram, ZL3TDI
>--
>Dave Ingram   -- Dare to be different - OS/2 Warp Connect --
>Masters Student, Power Electronics Research
>Department of Electrical & Electronic Engineering
>University of Canterbury, Christchurch, New Zealand
It is possible to create the equivalent of a cassette port
on the SX-64.  You will need a C-64 schematic and an SX-64
schematic.  You run a few wires from your connector of choice
to the SX-64 cpu board.  It is a pain to do it, but it can
be done.

--
[e-mail]     Robert (Bob) Davis
                   Amateur Radio K0FPC
                   Emporia, Kansas


From [e-mail] Thu Mar 21 13:46:48 1996
From: Russ Roslewski <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Drake TR-22 for packet?
Date: Wed, 13 Mar 1996 17:57:45 -0700
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

Hi!
        Has anyone had any experience with using a Drake TR-22 for 1200 baud
packet?  We've got a couple in the Air Force Academy cadet club that aren't
doing anything, so I figured we might as well set one up for packet and free
up the radio we're using now.  Unfortunately, we have absolutely no
documentation for it, and therefore don't know which mic pins are which.
Anybody out there that could help?

Thanks,
Russ  KI7FL
--
[e-mail]                           __|__
PP-ASEL   (AOPA #01215297)   KI7FL (DM79na)    CAP  _______(*)_______
"Pick me up so high...where eagles fly!" - Sammy Hagar    o/ \o
"This content in no way reflects the opinions, standards, or policy of
the United States Air Force Academy or the United States government."


From [e-mail] Thu Mar 21 13:46:49 1996
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: DROP
From: [e-mail] (David Highfield)
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Date: Tue, 19 Mar 96 07:20:00 +0300

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From [e-mail] Thu Mar 21 13:46:50 1996
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: DROP
From: [e-mail] (David Highfield)
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Date: Tue, 19 Mar 96 07:30:00 +0300

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From [e-mail] Thu Mar 21 13:46:50 1996
From: [e-mail] (Tedd Doda)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: FBB not disconnecting users?
Date: 19 Mar 1996 10:17:18 GMT
Message-ID: <4im1je$[e-mail]>

Greetings. I just got FBB 5.15c up and running(!). I only have one puzzle
to fix, when a user connects then trys a "b" for disconnect, the board will
send him the usual "you have been connected for ***** m/s  CPU time****, 73,
then logs him right back on? Has anyone had this problem? I've checked all
the .ini and .txt files and can't see anything out of place. I'm running
it with BPQ.


bcnu,

Tedd Doda, CET
(Lazer Audio and Electronics/ Baden, Ont. Canada)
packet ve3tjd@va3sed ******* Running FBB under Warp Connect!
e-mail [e-mail]** Running the IAK in Warp Connect!
[Team OS/2 in Canada]



From [e-mail] Thu Mar 21 13:46:52 1996
From: [e-mail] (Lee Jackson)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: FCC THREAT TO INTERNET
Date: 15 Mar 1996 15:22:45 -0800
Message-ID: <ljackson.826932109@kudo>



Check this out...
****************************************************************
*              GOVERNMENT THREAT TO INTERNET                   *
****************************************************************

The FCC is considering a petition, filed March 4, to exercise
JURISDICTION over the INTERNET and make usage of Internet
Telephony software ILLEGAL.

This is a serious threat to the Internet!  The FCC is moving
along at an astounding pace.  They have already issued a Public
Notice for comments, which are due April 8, 1996.  After this,
they will be "considering" what action to take.

The bureaucrats must be stopped NOW, before it is too late!  Let
your elected representatives know your opinions.

for more info...check out the URL:

http://www.freetel.com/fcc.htm

PLEASE FORWARD THIS TO FRIENDS AND APPROPRIATE NEWS GROUPS
***************************************************************






From [e-mail] Thu Mar 21 13:46:52 1996
From: Will <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: ForSale   HAL   P38
Date: 18 Mar 1996 05:03:49 GMT
Message-ID: <4iiqrl$[e-mail]>

I have for sale a HAL P38 Board, comes with RagChew and Express 3.5 software.

$300.00

Please E-Mail  [e-mail]

Thanks 73 Will



From [e-mail] Thu Mar 21 13:46:53 1996
From: [e-mail] (Jay Townsend)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: HAL P38
Date: 20 Mar 1996 16:31:13 GMT
Message-ID: <4ipbsh$[e-mail]>

There is no difference in earlier/later models of the P38 from Hal that I
am aware.  The only difference is in software which is one of the most
important parts of the HAL.  Changes in the code are available from HAL
or from the IDRA ftp site.

ftp.iea.com  /public/adrs/p38  or thru the http://www.iea.com/~adrs
IDRA Website.

The P38 comes with a communications program and there are several others
available as well.



--
Jay Townsend, WS7I  < [e-mail] >



From [e-mail] Thu Mar 21 13:46:54 1996
From: [e-mail] (JCHol)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc,rec.radio.amateur.policy,rec.radio.amateur.homebrew,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.scanner,rec.radio.shortwave,sci.electronics
Subject: Re: Ham Radio Online March 11th, 1996
Date: 15 Mar 1996 19:41:11 -0500
Message-ID: <4id2n7$[e-mail]>
References: <4hvrho$[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail] (JCHol)

I have visited the site twice. Really enjoyed the article about launching
wires into trees.  Keep up the good work.

73 de John, WA5TWL


From [e-mail] Thu Mar 21 13:46:55 1996
From: [e-mail](Jean-Pierre Heulin )
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: help! KISS & KPC-9612!
Date: 13 Mar 1996 14:43:39 GMT
Message-ID: <4i6mur$[e-mail]>
References: <4i1g03$[e-mail]>

In <4i1g03$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Rikhardur
Sveinsson) writes:
>
>I have a Kantronics KPC-9612 with version 5.2...
>
>Is there a BUG???? I have been trying to get this modem to
>work with JNOS with out luck...The only response I get
>is very fast blink of tha STA led.!
>
>The cable is DB25<->DB25 and I connected
>2-2 3-3 4-4 5-5 6-6 7-7 8-8 20-20
>
>What could be wrong..?
>
>Benedikt Sveinsson
>
>TF3BNT
>

In Command mode, did you type INT KISS then RESET to switch it to KISS
mode. Is the TNC working with a regular communication program before
you switch to KISS mode. Make it work with a simple com program first
then turn KISS mode on then run Jnos. If you are not even sure the cord
is good, you are in trouble. Only mess with Jnos when you know your
computer and the TNC are talking. You HAVE to do that as the TNC is
never in KISS mode at turn on.

Good luck and 73
de Jean-Pierre KC6JET



From [e-mail] Thu Mar 21 13:46:57 1996
From: [e-mail] (Alexander Kurpiers)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.networking,aus.radio.amateur.digital
Subject: Re: HELP-Packet drivers,Ethernet,AX@%,JNOS/KA9Q Questions
Date: 13 Mar 1996 16:15:00 GMT
Message-ID: <4i6sa4$[e-mail]>
References: <4hofrl$[e-mail]>
To: Andy Walton <[e-mail]>

In article <4hofrl$[e-mail]>, Andy Walton <andrew.c.walton@dst
o.defence.gov.au> writes:
|>      What I would really like to do would be to run the ax25 packet driver on t
he PC in the ham radio shack, have the ax25 packets route=
|> d up the ethernet cable to to remote PC, and run NOS on the remote PC by me
ans of attaching an ethernet packet driver to it instead =
|> of the ax25 packet driver.

Have a look at PC/Flexnet. It does just what you need. It has a driver for Bay
com modems and may use PD drivers to connect
two computers via ethernet. Furthermore it can emulate TFPCX so you still can
use GP.

Have a look at http://www.th-darmstadt.de/diverses/afthd/flexnet

73 Alexander DL8AAU



From [e-mail] Thu Mar 21 13:46:58 1996
From: [e-mail] (Ken Wickwire)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: HF Packet
Date: Wed, 20 Mar 1996 12:53:10 -0300
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <4il2ii$[e-mail]>

In article <4il2ii$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Kf9ug) wrote:

> I have used HF packet with great success.  Once night I was DXing on 20m
> packet to V31 land and it was faster than a link locally on VHF.  There is
> alot
> of fun to be had running HF packet.  Hope to catch you on 20m!
> vy 73s de Michael


From [e-mail] Thu Mar 21 13:46:59 1996
From: Brian Webb <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: de.comm.ham,rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc,rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.homebrew,rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: HTX-212 & MFJ-1270C TNC
Date: 16 Mar 1996 21:40:52 GMT
Message-ID: <4ifch4$3s8$[e-mail]>

Several weeks ago I purchased a Radio Shack HTX-212 mobile
2-meter radio. I own an MFJ-1270C TNC. What I'd like to do is
hook these two units together so I can operate on packet.

Here are some questions:

1. Does anybody sell a pre-made HTX-212 to MFJ-1270C interface
cable?

2. If I have to make my own cable, does anybody have a schematic?

3. Where can I buy an extra modular mic plug of the type used on
the HTX-212?

4. Have any of you interfaced these rigs and gotten them to work?
If so, is there anything that I should know?

Regards,

Brian Webb, KD6NRP
Thousand Oaks, CA


From [e-mail] Thu Mar 21 13:47:00 1996
From: [e-mail] (Burch Akin)
Newsgroups: de.comm.ham,rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc,rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.homebrew,rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: HTX-212 & MFJ-1270C TNC
Date: Tue, 19 Mar 1996 19:44:10 GMT
Message-ID: <4in2vm$[e-mail]>
References: <4ifch4$3s8$[e-mail]>

Brian Webb <[e-mail]> wrote:

>Several weeks ago I purchased a Radio Shack HTX-212 mobile
>2-meter radio. I own an MFJ-1270C TNC. What I'd like to do is
>hook these two units together so I can operate on packet.

>Here are some questions:

>1. Does anybody sell a pre-made HTX-212 to MFJ-1270C interface
>cable?

>2. If I have to make my own cable, does anybody have a schematic?

>3. Where can I buy an extra modular mic plug of the type used on
>the HTX-212?

>4. Have any of you interfaced these rigs and gotten them to work?
>If so, is there anything that I should know?

>Regards,

>Brian Webb, KD6NRP
>Thousand Oaks, CA

I have the same radio and TNC.  I had to make my own cable.  If you
call MFJ they will mail you a schematic.  I think the parts costs
under $5.




From [e-mail] Thu Mar 21 13:47:02 1996
From: Tim Deagan <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Internet gateways from TexNet?
Date: Thu, 14 Mar 1996 09:05:42 -0600
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

de new packeteer KC5QFG,

Thanks to some of the help I recieved here I've gotten
my packet station working robustly, connecting to the
AUSTIN Texnet node.  I've read bulletins, weather and left
myself mail to verify everyting's working.

Can any TexNet users assist me in determining if there is
an Internet gateway accessible from TexNet and what
the syntax of an address to use such a gateway would look
like?

On a related note,I'd like to send some packet mail to a
buddy in Florida (Tallahassee) N1QBS.  How do I go about
determining a sequence of packet stations, networks or
PBBS's to route to him?

Thanks in advance,
--Tim
KC5QFG
[e-mail]


From [e-mail] Thu Mar 21 13:47:03 1996
From: [e-mail] (Stan Huntting)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.equipment
Subject: KaWin - New Version!
Date: 15 Mar 1996 14:07:15 GMT
Message-ID: <4ibtij$[e-mail]>

KaWin 6.35 adds support for the Buckmaster Hamcall CDROM and
a dozen more new features and improvements. KaWin 6.35 is
available for immediate download from the KaWin Home Page. 73,

Stan.
--
Stan Huntting,    KF0IA
Email:            [e-mail]
Fax:              303 444 2314
KaWin home page:  http://www.mutadv.com/kawin/
Postal address:   4655 Pleasant Ridge Rd.,
                  Boulder, CO 80301-1731, USA



From [e-mail] Thu Mar 21 13:47:04 1996
From: [e-mail] (Scott\, G.R. \,  Cundiff)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Locking TheNet routes
Date: 17 Mar 96 21:48:19 GMT
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

I am (trying to be) sysop of a Z80 based node running TheNet here, and am
looking for information on how to "lock" a route in.  Thanks for your
helpful response!

73, Scott

=============================================================
           G.R. "Scott" Cundiff  --  Borger, Texas
Internet:  [e-mail]    ham: N5ASD@N5ASD.#WTX.TX.USA.NOAM
=============================================================



From [e-mail] Thu Mar 21 13:47:05 1996
From: [e-mail] (Tim Cook)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Looking For Software
Date: Mon, 18 Mar 1996 17:20:21 GMT
Message-ID: <4ik66j$[e-mail]>

I am looking for a good package to use with my pk-232. I had used
XPCOM in the past, but don't know if KF7XP still produces the program
or not.  I know there are others out there.  Any suggestions? Is XPCOM
still being produced? How about AEA Packratt for Windows?  I'll buy
commercial software, or use freeware, just want something that works
well and is relatively bug free...
Please email with any info..
Thanks
Tim
NZ8J



From [e-mail] Thu Mar 21 13:47:06 1996
From: [e-mail] (Harry)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: mfj swy analyzer is sold
Date: 15 Mar 1996 02:37:49 GMT
Message-ID: <4ial5t$[e-mail]>
References: <4ht979$[e-mail]>

Thank you for the response.  The MFJ swr analyzer is sold.



From [e-mail] Thu Mar 21 13:47:06 1996
From: [e-mail] (Jim Chandler)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: MFJ-1214 RTTY Unit and FT-990
Date: Fri, 15 Mar 96 02:51:24 GMT
Message-ID: <4ialvc$[e-mail]>

I would like to talk to anyone that has interfaced an MFJ-1214 CW/RTTY
interface to a Yeasu 990.  Thanks


Jim Chandler, N0VAH
[e-mail]
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From [e-mail] Thu Mar 21 13:47:08 1996
From: [e-mail] (Christer Johansson)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc,rec.radio.amateur.homebrew,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.shortwave
Subject: Re: Need Radio Clock Info.
Date: Mon, 11 Mar 1996 17:17:52 GMT
Message-ID: <4i1nb6$[e-mail]>
References: <4hl1tj$90r$[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail]

Hi Parker,

Parker Kent <[e-mail]> wrote:

>I need any information I can get in
>reguards to the radio signals sent from Germany
>across Europe giving time information for
>Radio Clocks.

Point your Web browser to the following URL...

  http://www.tu-bs.de/rz/sysadmin/dienste/ntp/clock.txt.html

Hope this helps,

/Christer

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From [e-mail] Thu Mar 21 13:47:09 1996
From: [e-mail] (TSTADER)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: New Web Site for Northeast Regional All Hazard Conference
Date: 19 Mar 1996 19:20:10 -0500
Message-ID: <4inivq$[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail] (TSTADER)

The Massachusetts Emergency Management Agency has established a Web site.
The latest information on the Northeast Regional All Hazard Conference,
June 26-28, 1996 in Boston can be found there.

The URL is  http://www.magnet.state.ma.us/mema

Please direct your telephone calls on this conference to Mr. Kevin Tully,
Area 1 Director, Massachusetts Emergency Management Agency,
[phone]  Fax [phone].

=========
On a side note.... I am looking for hams that are either ARES or RACES
afiliated who might be interested in manning a Amateur Radio booth at this
conference. We are looking for those who might be willing to show portable
packet operation as well as APRS. Also looking for those that may have
setup portable repeaters to be brought into a site and used in an
emergency event.

Please contact me if you are willing to come and join us, show off your
skills as an emergency communicator and fabricator! Please e-mail me at
this address or at [e-mail].

Terry Stader - KA8SCP/1
MEMA Area 1 Communications/RACES Officer


From [e-mail] Thu Mar 21 13:47:10 1996
From: [e-mail] (gloria medcalf)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc,rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: NTS Messages via Packet BBSs (new web-site article)
Date: Wed, 13 Mar 1996 11:11:08 -0600
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

Do you want to use packet radio to send messages to your non-packet
friends or even to your non-amateur friends? You can - by sending
NTS (National Traffic System) messages. The article at the URL below
explains how to do it.

Article URL: http://www.idir.net/~medcalf/ztx/nts.html

From the home page at http://www.idir.net/~medcalf/ztx/ you can
link to other articles mostly about digital modes. The articles
may be reprinted in amateur radio club newsletters provided that
credit is given to the author.

The site also contains diagrams for wiring radios to tncs.

73 gloria ka5ztx   [e-mail]


From [e-mail] Thu Mar 21 13:47:11 1996
From: [e-mail] ()
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: Packet Bulletin Availability
Date: Tue, 12 Mar 1996 23:53:54 GMT
Message-ID: <4i4vdn$[e-mail]>
References: <4hop09$[e-mail]>

[e-mail] (Daniel P Cristina) wrote:

>Thanks to all that reply:

>Is there a site that is accessable via internet to retrieve current
>packet bulletins, etc.; @WW, @ALLUS.

>Would prefer to be able to d/l zipped files if possible to be imported
>int a MSYS packet system here in New Orleans.

>There are many packet systems available, but most don't have the buls
>available in file form.

>Thanks for any help and direction...

>Danny/N5OMG

Danny

Goto N0rse, sm6gwq.....  ftp://spieg.interealm.com/pub/n0rse



From [e-mail] Thu Mar 21 13:47:12 1996
From: [e-mail] (Leigh)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Packet>Internet E-Mail GatewayY
Date: 18 Mar 1996 04:35:49 GMT
Message-ID: <4iip75$[e-mail]>

A friend is considering getting her amateur radio license, and is
especially interested in the possibility of a Packet/Internet e-mail
gateway.  I've heard that such sites exist (does W6VIO still have one?)
but don't know for sure of any current ones.  FWIW, we live in Southern
California.

Thanks in advance and 73 from Leigh Marrin/KM6JE@K6TZ in Santa Barbara.



From [e-mail] Thu Mar 21 13:47:13 1996
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: Packet>Internet E-Mail GatewayY
From: [e-mail] (David Dodell)
Reply-To: [e-mail] (David Dodell)
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <4iip75$[e-mail]>
Date: Mon, 18 Mar 96 18:39:20 MST

[e-mail] (Leigh) writes:

> A friend is considering getting her amateur radio license, and is
> especially interested in the possibility of a Packet/Internet e-mail
> gateway.  I've heard that such sites exist (does W6VIO still have one?)
> but don't know for sure of any current ones.  FWIW, we live in Southern
> California.


                             How to Use the WB7TPY
                          Packet <-> Internet Gateway

First, some brief operational notes:

(1) Messages must not contain any foul language, or commercial purpose.
(2) Messages can only be sent to countries that the United States has
    a third-party agreement.  All others will be destroyed.
(3) Messages from the internet should be less then 5K in length.
    No files should be sent.
(4) If you have questions, please do not hesitate to contact me either on
    packet radio: [e-mail]       -or-
    Internet    : [e-mail]


(5) Have fun.  Use the gateway as much as you like.  That is what it is
    there for.

                                    ------
                            From Internet to Packet
                                    ------


Send mail to the internet address of:

[e-mail]

The first line of text must contain a full packet address, preceded with the
word "Packet:"

For example, mail to my packet address, would have the first line of text;

Packet: [e-mail]


** NOTE: this line MUST be left justified.

                                    ------
                            From Packet to Internet
                                    ------

Send as private mail (never a bulletin) to the packet address of:

[e-mail]

The first line of text must contain a full domained internet address,
proceeded with the word "Internet:"

For example, mail to my internet address, would have the first line of text;

  Internet: [e-mail]

*** Remember, this has to be left justified


---
Internet: [e-mail]                 FAX: [phone]
WWW: http://www.stat.com/~david


From [e-mail] Thu Mar 21 13:47:15 1996
From: [e-mail] (Daniel Meredith)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: Packet>Internet E-Mail GatewayY
Date: 18 Mar 1996 20:26:01 -0700
Message-ID: <4il9gr$[e-mail]>
References: <4iip75$[e-mail]>

You can use the WB7TPY gateway in Scottsdale,  Arizona...

Email [e-mail] for more information...

He provides a very reliable service and was the very first to offer such a
service nearly 4-5 years ago.

Daniel


In article <4iip75$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Leigh) wrote:
>A friend is considering getting her amateur radio license, and is
>especially interested in the possibility of a Packet/Internet e-mail
>gateway.  I've heard that such sites exist (does W6VIO still have one?)
>but don't know for sure of any current ones.  FWIW, we live in Southern
>California.
>
>Thanks in advance and 73 from Leigh Marrin/KM6JE@K6TZ in Santa Barbara.
>


From [e-mail] Thu Mar 21 13:47:17 1996
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
From: [e-mail] (Gary Coffman)
Subject: Re: Problem with PK-232 (or the op)
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail] (Gary Coffman)
References: <[e-mail]>
Date: Sat, 16 Mar 1996 12:41:51 GMT

In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail]
u writes:
>I just acquired a PK-232 with 1988 ROM, TAPR modem disconnect, and
>TAPR DCD state machine upgrade.
>
>Comms between the radio and PK-232 appear to work fine; monitoring
>RTTY & CW on another radio showed no transmit problems, and the
>tuning display behaves normally when tuning in a RTTY or CW sigs.
>
>The start-up screen is displayed on my PC when the PK-232 is booted,
>and I can send commands to the PK-232 from the PC. However, no
>received info from the radio is forwarded to the PC. A breakout
>box on the PK-232's serial port shows commands moving fine but
>no radio sigs.....and as I said, the tune display on the PK-232
>shows that a true RTTY sig (etc) is being received.
>
>I'm stumped. Is my hamfest bargain FUBAR?

Well lets not give up yet, Harry. You say the signon screen is
displayed, do you mean the signon banner and then the cmd: prompt,
or are you using some sort of canned software? If the latter,
try using a regular comm program (like Procomm) and make sure
you're really getting communications from the PK232. Do a status
request and make sure monitor is ON. If it isn't, data will only
be displayed when you are connected to another station.

If the RS-232 link isn't really working both ways, you need to look
at the status lines. DSR should be asserted, else your comm software
may ignore incoming data. DTR probably needs to be asserted too. You
could try switching to software flow control (XON and XOFF) if you
suspect hardware flow control isn't configured correctly. If those
are Ok, you may have a bad driver chip in the TNC.

But assuming that RS-232 is working bidirectionally, and that the
TNC firmware is configured to pass monitored data, then you should
look at the TNC's DCD. You say that the unit has the TAPR DCD mod
and disconnect header in it. That may be the problem. DCD on the
PK-232 is normally like a "squelch" control. The knob on the front
sets a threshold level below which data is ignored as noise. If you
didn't have the DCD state machine on board, adjustment of the front
panel knob would be required to get DCD action. The DCD state machine
mod is *supposed* to only work for packet, so the knob on the front
should still be active for RTTY. Are you setting it correctly? Can you
turn it counterclockwise on noise and get the DCD LED on the panel to
light? If not, the DCD mod may have been installed incorrectly, or
the disconnect header may not have a jumper in place to pass DCD.
This could be the case if the unit has been used with an external
modem.

Gary
--
Gary Coffman KE4ZV          |    You make it,     | Due to provider problems
Destructive Testing Systems |    we break it.     | with previous uucp address
es
534 Shannon Way             |    Guaranteed!      | Email to [e-mail]
Lawrenceville, GA 30244     |                     |


From [e-mail] Thu Mar 21 13:47:18 1996
From: [e-mail] (Ken Jones)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: Problem with PK-232 (or the op)
Date: Mon, 18 Mar 1996 19:24:53 GMT
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]>

About all I can offer is that a nine-pin RS232 cable is required to
connect to the PC...a twenty-five wire cable is a known problem
causer, but not this case to my knowledge.  It rather causes
distorted transmitted signals.  Perhaps there's more to it than I
realize.

Does your b.o.b. show + and - sigs on the interface 2 and 3 pins?
Have you checked to ensure that the jumpers are set for PC rather
than Commodore signalling? Seems I recall something about TTL vs
RS-232 data levels...

Sorry to be so vague...  Good luck!

73

73,

Ken Jones ( mailto:[e-mail] ) ( CIS:73135,1243 )
KB3JA -- Maidenhead: FM19mu
SKYWARN observer in York Co. PA, listening 147.330 W3MUM/R
PGP Fingerprint FE99B25D; key avail on public servers



From [e-mail] Thu Mar 21 13:47:19 1996
From: Horace Ory <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: Q: Alinco 1200 @ 9600b
Date: 16 Mar 1996 03:58:42 GMT
Message-ID: <4ide9i$[e-mail]>
References: <4i9uen$[e-mail]>
To: [e-mail]

I'm using the 1200TH2 (1200 modified by Alinco for 9600 bps)
with TXDelay of 20 (200 msec) and it works well.  If I try smaller
TXD, performance degrades, and at TXD=15 (150 msec) it just
doesn't work.  The 9600 bps mods used by Alinco are the same as
publically available for the 1200.  I think I have them around
somewhere, so if you can't find them, let me know and I'll send
them.




From [e-mail] Thu Mar 21 13:47:20 1996
From: William Vaughn <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: Q: MFJ 2mtr Data Radios
Date: 18 Mar 1996 03:23:20 GMT
Message-ID: <4iikv8$[e-mail]>
References: <4i9u8s$[e-mail]> <4icuru$[e-mail]>

I purchased one of these little beuties and threw it on the service
monitor. I do not like them. The published sensitivity .25uv is a dream.
I do not consider .65uv acceptable and my unit turned out 1uv. It also
has a problem in tx in that the crystal starts far off freq and comes on
freq after about a second. Not my idea of a good data radio. I doubt if
this hog would work at 9600 since it is marginal at 1200. Go buy a
dr-1200 you will be happier since it is a real radio.
good luck 73 Bill



From [e-mail] Thu Mar 21 13:47:21 1996
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
From: [e-mail] (Gary Coffman)
Subject: Re: Q: MFJ 2mtr Data Radios
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail] (Gary Coffman)
References: <4i9u8s$[e-mail]> <4icuru$[e-mail]> <4iikv8$[e-mail]>
Date: Wed, 20 Mar 1996 02:12:13 GMT

In article <4iikv8$[e-mail]> William Vaughn <[e-mail]> writes:
>
>I purchased one of these little beuties and threw it on the service
>monitor. I do not like them. The published sensitivity .25uv is a dream.
>I do not consider .65uv acceptable and my unit turned out 1uv. It also
>has a problem in tx in that the crystal starts far off freq and comes on
>freq after about a second. Not my idea of a good data radio. I doubt if
>this hog would work at 9600 since it is marginal at 1200. Go buy a
>dr-1200 you will be happier since it is a real radio.
>good luck 73 Bill

You seem to forget what you bought, Bill. This is a *MFJ* radio.
You're responsible for final tuneup and quality control, that's
why it's so cheap. It's a good basic design, and it can be tweaked
to meet its specs.

Gary
--
Gary Coffman KE4ZV          |    You make it,     | Due to provider problems
Destructive Testing Systems |    we break it.     | with previous uucp address
es
534 Shannon Way             |    Guaranteed!      | Email to [e-mail]
Lawrenceville, GA 30244     |                     |


From [e-mail] Thu Mar 21 13:47:22 1996
From: [e-mail] (Ron Curry)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: Q: MFJ 2mtr Data Radios
Date: Fri, 15 Mar 1996 23:31:26 GMT
Message-ID: <4icuru$[e-mail]>
References: <4i9u8s$[e-mail]>

[e-mail] wrote:

>   Does anyone have any experience with the MFJ Data Radio running on a
>9600b link? I read the Apr96 ( or was it Mar96 ) that had a small, write up
>on it. The article indicated that it had a poor receiver and that the
>author didn't try and do any 9600b stuff. Any info on it's performance or
>mods needed for 9600b would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.

>73's  de  Jack   -  kf5mg
>Internet / hobby -  [e-mail]              - home [phone]
>           work  -  [e-mail]               - work [phone]
>+=========================================================================+
>+     I am Homer of Borg.... prepare to be assim... oooo... Donuts...     +
>+=========================================================================+

Actually this little radio works pretty good unless you have an RF
saturated environment like a mountain top site. Most of the problems
people have is that it is a crystal controlled radio and therefore
needs to be aligned if you change crystals and want it to work well. I
have several of these running and the work well. I can get better than
.65 uv SNAD on the receiver with my service monitor. I recommend it.

Ron Curry



From [e-mail] Thu Mar 21 13:47:23 1996
From: [e-mail] (Dick Mock)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Should... Contests?
Date: 20 Mar 96 23:32:17 GMT
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>


Date: Sat, 16 Mar 1996 15:53:18 GMT
>From: [e-mail] (Gary Coffman)
>Subject: Should the ARRL and CQ Publications limit Contesting on HF?
>
>Now operating split does consume twice the bandwidth as operating
>on a single channel. So if you are concerned about waste of
bandwidth,
>then the sensible thing would be to allow US phone operators to
operate
>down in the common frequency range of foreign stations. We could
always
>put CW ops up at the top of the band with the foreign broadcasters.
>Since we're continously told that "Morse gets through when nothing
else
>will", the interference shouldn't be a bother.
>Gary

--
What a sterling Idea!! ;)

It would work! That solves a lot of problems on 40.  Actually
I think we FSK folks could cope there almost as well.  Our throughput
would be almost as good as CW.  ;)

But the broadcasters might complain about all those crickets and
birdies.  They are more of a problem to the audio audience because of
the power duty cycle and the endless rythm of the FSK signals.  :(

Dick

[e-mail]
/////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////



From [e-mail] Thu Mar 21 13:47:24 1996
From: Will Flor <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: Spread Spectrum QRP
Date: 17 Mar 1996 02:01:11 GMT
Message-ID: <4ifrp7$[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]> <4i37ct$[e-mail]>

[e-mail] (AlanPercy) wrote:
>Tell us what equipment you are using!!!
>
> We here in the Buffalo area are trying to setup a network of Part 15 S.S.
>systems for gaining access to the Internet, but we can't decide which way
>to go!  Some of the BreezeCom stuff looks really great, but before we
>spend the money, I would love a personal recommendation.
>
>Tell us more!!!
>
>

If you have the $$buck$$, nothing beats the Percom wireless bridge 900 IMNSHO.

We've used them for some time in implementing wireless WANs for commercial use
rs,
including the Experimental Aircraft Association.  The stated throughput is 2MB
, but
the connection seems to be about 40% - 60% as fast as a landline-based 10-Base
T
Ethernet connection.  Max range is a few miles.  They're really, really nice,
but
out of my price range.  Too bad, too, since my ISP (my employer) is only about
 2
miles (as the RF flies) from my home, and within line-of-sight of the tower I
hope
to build someday.

73 de Will KB9JTT
[e-mail]




From [e-mail] Thu Mar 21 13:47:25 1996
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
From: [e-mail] (Mistie Mullarkey)
Subject: Re: sucks
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail] (Mistie Mullarkey)
References:  <[e-mail]>
Date: Wed, 13 Mar 1996 04:10:03 GMT


Richard Volpe ([e-mail]) writes:
> this really sucks

Really? Not for me. Then again I haven't gotten into all this cybersex yet.




From [e-mail] Thu Mar 21 13:47:26 1996
From: "S. Sampson" <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: TEKK KS-1000 ??
Date: Sat, 16 Mar 1996 17:28:02 -0600
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <4i1f4k$[e-mail]>

Richard Hallman (Richard hallman) wrote:

>   I just purchsed 2 of the new KS-1000l radios and are working WELL with the
> PacComm Spirit II TNC.....Real Plug 'n Play!!!
>
>     73  Rich  KI3V  Reno Nevada

Could you please keep the technical talk down!  Your evaluation is far too
technical :-)

Steve
"Model-T's work WELL--but I'd rather have a Buick..."


From [e-mail] Thu Mar 21 13:47:27 1996
From: [e-mail] ()
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: TEKK-900L mods for 19200 ????
Date: Fri, 15 Mar 1996 04:44:39 GMT
Message-ID: <4iap6o$[e-mail]>

Hello ALL

I am interested in getting the TEKK 900 data radio to perform at
19200.  I spoke with an Australian chap who said he had seen some
messages from a German fellow that has managed this.

Possibly you are only required to "tweek" the front end , I don't
know.  Any help would be greatly appreciated.....

Cheers..Peter..vk2yx



From [e-mail] Thu Mar 21 13:47:28 1996
From: [e-mail] (Mark Fellhauer)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Tempo MPP-1 Printing TNC
Date: 13 Mar 1996 21:28:02 -0700
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

I recently aquired a Tempo MPP-1 TNC and am interested in starting a
dialog with any other Tempo/AR1200 owners.

Specifically, I am looking for the 5-pin Mini-DIN-like TNC to radio
connector.  A call to Henry Radio was of little help as they no longer
distribute the unit, nor do they have any more cables.  I have been
able to find the female part of this connector locally. but no one has
ever seen a cable like this that I can find in the Phoenix area.  Does
anyone know of a supplier for these connectors?

Also, I only have the basic manual and would gladly pay a small fee
for a copy of the technical manual/schematic.  Even a complete
breakdown of the MPP-1's unique commands would be helpful.

I am aware of the birdie this unit causes on 145.01.  I'm aware there
is a cure, but what is it?

I understand the 80 mm paper rolls are difficult and expensive to
find.  Does anyone know of a good supplier for this paper?  I'm also
aware, as I used to work in a print shop, that it is quite possible to
buy wider thermal paper rolls and cut them down with a band saw.  Has
anyone done this?

Generally, I am interested in any tidbits, dirt, amusing anecdotes,
unusual uses, etc. of the Tempo MPP-1/AR1200.

Please respond via personal e-mail.

73,

Mark Fellhauer  KC7BXS
ThunderBird ARC packet coordinator
[e-mail]




Are there any interesting hacks/mods/Easter Eggs for this


From [e-mail] Thu Mar 21 13:47:29 1996
From: [e-mail] (Ed Lang)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: TNC Which one?  Please help`
Date: Tue, 19 Mar 96 12:25:54 GMT
Message-ID: <4im92d$[e-mail]>

I have read posts here and have asked this question to others.  Now I ask you!


I will buy a TNC in the next few days and would like to make the right choice
the first time.  I will want to use RTTY, Pactor, Amtor, Packet and maybe CW.
 I run Win95 and have a IC-736 HF rig and an Alinco DR-110 VHF rig.  I would
like to hear from you as to your opinion of a good TNC and why you like it.

My top three choices now are:

        MFJ-1278B or 1278B/DSP  (no Win software that I know of)
        KAM+ and KaWin software
        PK-232MBX and Packratt win or PKGold


I have not listed the TNC in any order.


Thank you for your help!



73  Ed Lang
KC4YLX
[e-mail]


From [e-mail] Thu Mar 21 13:47:30 1996
From: [e-mail] (Robert Edward)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Trouble returning to command mode with MFJ-1278
Date: Thu, 14 Mar 1996 00:06:08 -0600
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

I'm currently borrowing a friend's MFJ-1278, and have been able to try it
out only on 2m packet.

The unit will power up, communicate with my term program, and receive
incoming packets.  However, whenever I connect to another station, the
1278 locks up after a successful connection.  I can't get it to return to
command mode (I have confirmed that the COMMAND character is Control-C),
nor will it send outgoing packets in converse mode.

I've tried resetting the unit by removing the lithium battery, but still
experience the trouble.

I'd appreciate any advice about what's going on and what can be done to
fix the trouble.

Bobby Edward  WB5MJK
Minneapolis, Minnesota

e-mail: [e-mail]

Courage HANDI-HAM System Volunteer
HANDI-HAM Web Site:  http://www.mtn.org/~handiham/


From [e-mail] Thu Mar 21 13:47:31 1996
From: [e-mail] (Allan Moeller)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: wa8ded.dll ?
Date: 13 Mar 96 20:13:00 GMT
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>


Hello

Do anyone know what wa8ded.dll is, my BBS did receive it via auto7p, is it a
driver for hostmode for windows, like tfkiss or tfpcr ?


73 de Allan [e-mail]




From [e-mail] Thu Mar 21 13:47:31 1996
From: Jim Cummings <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: WTD: Ottawa packet group PI or PI2 board
Date: 14 Mar 1996 19:19:45 GMT
Message-ID: <4i9rgi$[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]>
To: [e-mail]

[e-mail] (Kerry Banke) wrote:
>
> I am in the process of trying to set up a pair of Grapes  56Kb modems to
>work through our San Diego Microwave Group 10 GHz wideband repeater. I
>need to borrow or purchase two Ottawa PI or PI2 boards. I understand these
>boards available from the Ottawa packet group. Does anyone have boards
>they'd like to sell or loan or have the contact info as to where to buy
>these? Thanks  - Kerry N6IZW -

All the info that you want can be found at:

http://hydra.carleton.ca/info/pi2b.html

73 and live better digitally
Jim, VE3XJ




From [e-mail] Thu Mar 21 13:47:32 1996
From: Simon gw7soz <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: WWW Radio Pages
Date: 17 Mar 1996 11:13:10 GMT
Message-ID: <4igs46$[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]> <[e-mail]>

hi
I also have an amateur radio page:
http://www.aber.ac.uk/~srj5

73 de Simon



From [e-mail] Thu Mar 21 13:47:33 1996
From: [e-mail] (Jeremy Boot)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: WWW Radio Pages
Date: Thu, 14 Mar 1996 21:44:49 GMT
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail]

It nearly drove me mad doing it. It might not work on your browser,
but it does on mine (Netscape Gold 2):

        http://www.innotts.co.uk/~asperges/

Radio Pages - now with ADDED Java!

Enjoy, as they say.....
Jeremy G4NJH
[e-mail]
[Home, Am Radio, SWL pages: http://www.innotts.co.uk/~asperges/ ]



From [e-mail] Sun Mar 24 17:22:33 1996
From: [e-mail] (Jack Taylor)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: 13-509@9k6?
Date: 22 Mar 96 16:11:34 GMT
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

I've been attempting to set up two Midland 13-509 220 rigs for 9k6
using TAPR modems.  The transmit portion, adding a varator diode to the
crystal oscillator stage works well.  However, the eye pattern out of
the discriminator (before the deemphasis ckt) looks TERRIBLE on both
radios.

The TAPR modems have EPROMS which apparently can be coded for different
receiver audio responses.  Unlike the G3RUH style modem, there are NO
jumper settings available with which to adjust EPROM response, nor do
the TAPR modems I have, contain ANY documentation on this topic.

Has anyone in the group had success with using TAPR 9k6 modems with the
Midland 13-509?

73 de Jack


From [e-mail] Sun Mar 24 17:22:34 1996
From: Noel Gaddo <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: 32bit packet prog. ?
Date: 21 Mar 1996 18:09:15 GMT
Message-ID: <4is60b$c2i$[e-mail]>

I'm looking for a 32bit packet programme to use with Windows95

Are there any programs like this available? So yes.. where?

Thanks in advance..

Noel Gaddo. Warping out of reality at 28.800 bps.


From [e-mail] Sun Mar 24 17:22:35 1996
From: [e-mail] (Simon Quantrill)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: 4800Bd
Date: 21 Mar 96 13:58:16 GMT
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail]

Hello all, is there an external modem circuit anywhere that will bring
4k8 9k6 and up to my three 1200bd TNC2`s ????

Preferably circuit diagrams but any info e.g a ftp site!

Thankls
Simon [e-mail]
pe1ray@pi8vnw




From [e-mail] Sun Mar 24 17:22:36 1996
From: [e-mail] (Mike Decerbo)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: 56k modem and UHF rig.
Date: 22 Mar 1996 15:54:25 GMT
Message-ID: <4iuifh$[e-mail]>
References: <4imh3r$[e-mail]>

In article <4imh3r$[e-mail]>,
Brad Killebrew <[e-mail]> wrote:
>
>Hi Folks.
>
>I need to be pointed in the direction where I can find a 56k modem
>(already built or kit is fine) and a UHF radio that can handle this
>type of xfer.

If you have Web access, take a look at
        http://www.mindspring.com/~bobm/

and especially the link to "Barry VE3JF's Hi-Speed Options",
        http://hydra.carleton.ca/articles/hispeed.html

>I'm sick and tired of 1200 baud packet and I'm ready to upgrade.

Go for it! 1200 baud may have been reasonable in the early 80s, but in
the days of ISDN and cable modems it's ludicrous. We hams are supposed
to be _ahead_ of the rest of the world...

73,

Mike
N1FYO





From [e-mail] Sun Mar 24 17:22:36 1996
From: [e-mail] (Keith Sproul)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: APLink?  APRS?  Automated HF digital stations?
Date: Tue, 19 Mar 1996 08:42:24 -0500
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <Pine.SUN.3.91.960318084440.2780B-100000@ncrsun1>

In article <Pine.SUN.3.91.960318084440.2780B-100000@ncrsun1>,
[e-mail] (Kevin Anderson) wrote:

> I'm looking for an elmer(s) to correspond with to help me
> understand some digital systems.  I wasn't finding the
> info I needed/wanted in FAQs.
>
> APLink?
>
> APRS?
>
> Automated HF digital stations?
>


For information on APRS check out

http://aprs.rutgers.edu/APRS/

--
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Student Housing Network Coordinator     [e-mail]
Rutgers University Computing Services   908 445-3695 Work  908 445-2968 Fax
http://www-ns.rutgers.edu/~ksproul/     908 821-4828 Home


From [e-mail] Sun Mar 24 17:22:38 1996
From: [e-mail] (Marv Uphaus)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: Baycom & Laptops
Date: 22 Mar 1996 23:01:14 -0500
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <4imq4v$[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail]

On 19 Mar 1996 17:16:15 GMT, you wrote:
>I am attempting to run Baycom software with an older NEC
>Multispeed Laptop (AT, I believe).

I ran BayCom software very successfully for many years with all sorts of
BayCom modems and computers...  A year ago I bought a used IBM ThinkPad
500...  BayCom exhibited all the symptoms that you described...  After the
first transmission it was stuck forever in "Send" mode...

I thought that I could no longer use my BayCom modem on trips unless I
purchased a new computer...  Then I discovered a program called MUBAY...
(That stands for MultiUser BAYcom.)  It is written by a chap in the UK and
is an EXCELLENT program...  You can use it as a terminal program without
registering it...  However if you register it, it opens up multiple
features, the greatest of which is a multi-user mailbox and mail gathering
capabilities...  The best part is Jon Welch, the author only charges $20 to
register...  The worst part is he wants it in British Sterling...  I highly
recommend the program...  He has a home page on the Internet...  I can't
remember what it is...  If you can't find it by searching for MUBAY, then
post back and I will find it for you...

>                                      A recent opinion is that
>the Baycom s/w needs type 65500 uarts to operate correctly and
>that some laptops do not have them.

This is false...  My laptop has 16550's and it still would not run...

MUBAY uses TFPCX as the replacement for BayCom's L2.EXE program...

The problem seems to be a major defect in the L2.EXE program...  BayCom
authors do not understand how some serial ports work...  The TFPCX author
does understand...

You CAN run your BayCom from ANY laptop...!!!

Marv...   K4BVG...

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From [e-mail] Sun Mar 24 17:22:39 1996
From: Jim Devenport <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: C64 to Knwd Interface
Date: Tue, 19 Mar 1996 12:13:25 -0700
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]>

I haven't this to control Kenwoods, but I have used the C64 to control
various radios remotely via interface devices, such as Collins KWM-380
and Icom IC-
2AT.  Your application should be easier to interface than a "486" since
the C64 already input/outputs TTL levels via the userport whereas the
486 normally has to use an RS-232 to TTL level translator (which is all
the the Kenwood "computer interface" consists of).
One glitch that may prove troublesome is the CBM "ascii" has caps and
lowercase letters reversed from normal ascii.
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From [e-mail] Sun Mar 24 17:22:40 1996
From: [e-mail] (Dave Ingram)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Digicom on the Commodore SX64
Date: 20 Mar 1996 04:19:37 GMT
Message-ID: <4io10p$[e-mail]>

I have recently got hold of the plans for the Digicom packet modem
for a C64 (the ancestor of the Baycom).  The wiring plan shows that
it should be connected to the Cassette port of the C64.  The problem
I have is that I own an SX64 (built in 5" CRT and floppy drive)
which has no cassette port.  Is there a variant of the digicom
software that works with the user port?

If you have any information, please let me know.


Thanks in advance,
        Dave Ingram, ZL3TDI
--
Dave Ingram   -- Dare to be different - OS/2 Warp Connect --
Masters Student, Power Electronics Research
Department of Electrical & Electronic Engineering
University of Canterbury, Christchurch, New Zealand


From [e-mail] Sun Mar 24 17:22:42 1996
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
From: [e-mail] (Cliff Frescura K3LL)
Subject: Re: Drake TR-22 for packet?
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Date: Fri, 22 Mar 1996 18:36:23 GMT
References: <[e-mail]>

Open the radio up and follow where the wires go.

The mic cable will have a shield on it.

I have one that I bought from a guy who was using it on packet, but with
low power (one to two watts) and a receiver that is not very selective,
I would say forget it.  Unless you happen to be very close to the BBS or
other station you want to work.

Good Luck,

Cliff K3LL


Russ Roslewski ([e-mail]) wrote:
: Hi!
:       Has anyone had any experience with using a Drake TR-22 for 1200 baud
: packet?  We've got a couple in the Air Force Academy cadet club that aren't
: doing anything, so I figured we might as well set one up for packet and free

: up the radio we're using now.  Unfortunately, we have absolutely no
: documentation for it, and therefore don't know which mic pins are which.
: Anybody out there that could help?

: Thanks,
: Russ  KI7FL
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From [e-mail] Sun Mar 24 17:22:43 1996
From: [e-mail] (willi_r)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: HAL   P38
Date: 23 Mar 1996 21:52:01 GMT
Message-ID: <4j1rq1$[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]>

In article <[e-mail]>, <[e-mail]> says:
>
>I'm planning on buying a used P-38, if i can find one, are there any
>(quality control) problems with this modem, especially the earlier ones?

I had earlier posted a comment to a ham wanting to sell his P38, and I may be
the only ham in the world who has this problem, but I have never been
able to use it in the Pactor mode for serious use. It almost always will
lock up during the switch over from one station to the other. There have
been a few exceptions, but it occurs about 80% of the time for me. It is
very embarrasing since I always have to preface my contacts with " I am
using the HAL P-38 and it often locks up so please kill everything and
start over when and if this happens". Naturally a lot of my contacts just
wont fool around with this constant rephasing and attempting to connect
and get some thruput. It has been very very upsetting to me that my first
experience after waiting almost three years to save the money for a good
modem has resulted in complete disaster. It is possible that I have some
quirky problem at my end causing all the difficulty, but you kind of wonder
since when I ask other p38 users how the Pactor operation works, they will
say it works great until they then admit that they dont really operate pactor
with the p-38.

I wouldnt mind hearing comments from other P-38 users who have great
success or problems either way.

Rick, KV9U


From [e-mail] Sun Mar 24 17:22:45 1996
From: [e-mail] (Robert Walker)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: help! KISS & KPC-9612!
Date: Thu, 21 Mar 1996 17:54:55 GMT
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <4i1g03$[e-mail]>

On 11 Mar 1996 15:14:11 GMT, [e-mail] (Rikhardur Sveinsson)
wrote:

>I have a Kantronics KPC-9612 with version 5.2...
>
>Is there a BUG???? I have been trying to get this modem to
>work with JNOS with out luck...The only response I get
>is very fast blink of tha STA led.!
>
>The cable is DB25<->DB25 and I connected
>2-2 3-3 4-4 5-5 6-6 7-7 8-8 20-20
>
>What could be wrong..?
>
>Benedikt Sveinsson
>
>TF3BNT
>
Hi! I've had exactly the same problem with my very recent purchase of
a KPC9612 v6.0 and enquired around and found that Mr Kamtronics has,
indeed, a Web page and with a URL that points to an email address to
their service dept. Ain't you lucky!!!!  Anyway, the problem in my
case was that after I had issued the mandatory INT KISS (or XKISS) and
the RESET command to get the TNC's CPU to re-read the Eprom and the
cmos configuration, the goldarned thung just wouldn't go into KISS
mode properly. Turned out in my case that I was trying to disable
(deliberately!) the transmit function on the 9600 baud port whilst
leaving the t'other going. In other words, I had turned XMITOK off on
the 9600 baud port but had left the 1200 baud XMITOK on as I wanted it
to. The thing didn't like that and refused to behave itself by going
into KISS properly. Karl, the main man in the Kamtronics Service
Department sent me some email which set me on the right track. I had,
at his request, emailed him a copy of my JNOS's Autoexec.nos file and
he sent me back a copy of his. Turns out that Karl is, like me, a keen
JNOS fan. Everything works O.K. now.

Try this URL:-  http://www.kamtronics.com.

Watch for the URL that points to their email address which I THINK
(????) is [e-mail]

They reply very quickly.
Let me know the reason for your particular problem. It might help me
avoid further hassles..

Best of luck,

Kindest regards,
Bob.

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From [e-mail] Sun Mar 24 17:22:46 1996
From: [e-mail] (Paul E. Campbell)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: How to handle power in routing
Date: 22 Mar 1996 14:13:55 -0500
Message-ID: <4iuu5j$[e-mail]>

I'm playing around with algorithms before I go and actually implement
anything so here's where I'm stuck...

First, I'm looking at implementing a packet radio system crammed into a Part 1
5
unlicensed band. With care, I think I can get a couple miles out of it which
is all I need. The link itself will be able to handle up to about 140Kbps whic
h
is a far cry from microwave megabit speeds, but not shabby otherwise.

The modems will be using a single channel and I have considered using the MAC
outlined by Phil Karns (listen, send packet request, receive go-ahead, then
send packet at power specified by the intended receiver).

As far as I can tell, this system is upgraded a bit from CSMA type packet
networks (listen, then send away and hope you don't cause a collision) by usin
g
the send request/go-ahead messages as additional protection to the packet. The
power control also helps.

But going from the details of the link layer to the transport layer (I've also
considered the various collision free slotted and unslotted protocols), how
does one determine how to route?

When one doesn't consider the possibility of power control and/or
congestion, then routing is simple.. compute the shortest available path
(passing through the fewest number of nodes).

But what about congestion? And what about power control? Under low congestion
for instance, then you would want to follow the first method which means
boosting your power levels to send the packet as far as possible (while
simultaneously colliding with intervening nodes). But under high congestion
or with a local area of congestion, one wants to route around the congestion
or decrease power while going through it to limit the amount of interference
generated by your message.

Are there any algorithms or analyses or anything in this area? Or am I
looking for something that doesn't exist?


From [e-mail] Sun Mar 24 17:22:47 1996
From: [e-mail] (Stan Huntting)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.equipment
Subject: KaWin News
Date: 22 Mar 1996 04:10:46 GMT
Message-ID: <4it986$[e-mail]>

KAWIN NEWS

KaWin 6.36
Kantronics to distribute KaWin
KaWin FTP Site closure
KaWin News mailing list issues

Version 6.36 of KaWin, available now from the KaWin Home Page, is just a
maintenance release with a few, very minor, fixes. But, due to problems
with my mailer, many people missed the announcement of version 6.35,
with support for the Buckmaster Hamcall CDROM.

Also, I am very pleased to announce that Kantronics will be packaging
KaWin on diskette with every TNC and TNC-upgrade. This is the same
shareware KaWin that is available from the KaWin Home Page and will
increase the distribution of KaWin several fold.

All files that were previously available from the KaWin FTP Site have
been consolidated in the KaWin Home Page. If you do not have Web access
and had previously relied on FTP access to these files, send me email to
that effect and we'll arrange to get them to you.

I have purged all addresses from the KaWin News mailing list that have
had delivery problems. If you did NOT receive the email version of KaWin
News announcing KaWin 6.36 and would like to be on the mailing list,
please subscribe by email request. To add your email address to the
KaWin News mailing list, send email to [e-mail] with the word
SUBSCRIBE in the subject line. If your email address is modified in any
way by your host or gateway, please include the correct address in the
body of the message. Thanks.

73, Igottago... Stan ..

KaWin News is published by Stan Huntting, KF0IA.
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Email:            [e-mail]
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                  Boulder, CO 80301-1731, USA



From [e-mail] Sun Mar 24 17:22:48 1996
From: Paul Bastian <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Looking for Software
Date: Thu, 21 Mar 1996 18:35:38 -0800
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

I am looking for Software for SSTV, WEFAX and RTTY, which uses a
HAMCOM type modem.  Any info would be greatly appreciated.

        E-Mail to [e-mail]



From [e-mail] Sun Mar 24 17:22:49 1996
From: [e-mail] (Paul Bobby)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Message networks over the net
Date: 22 Mar 1996 08:22:42 -0500
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>


In our isolated packet area, we now have  machine connected to the internet.

I'd rather not have to worry about the content of nntp messages.... are there
any fidonet-style message nets that can be tunneled through the internet and
up and out into my pbbs?

I need something for our poor packeteers to read, and the net is our fastest
transport of course.

--
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KeyServer ID = 0xD9CEE7C1


From [e-mail] Sun Mar 24 17:22:50 1996
From: [e-mail] (Maarten van Damme)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Packet modems with GPS
Date: Thu, 21 Mar 1996 19:11:49 GMT
Message-ID: <4is9g9$[e-mail]>

Hello,

In this months CQ I noticed that many packet modem ad also contained
the caption "Now does GPS"!

As a SWL-er with an interest in RTTY and other digital modes I was
wondering what this GPS does in the context of packet modems.

Would it be possible to retrieve your exact location by using one of
the modems, the correct receiver (Scanner radio?) and the correct
antenna, and probably a piece of software?

This would be great. Please could you let me know what they mean with
"Does GPS" and waht else I would need to create my own little GPS
receiver.

Maarten van Damme


[e-mail]
Maarten van Damme

e-mail: [e-mail]



From [e-mail] Sun Mar 24 17:22:51 1996
From: [e-mail] (Scott\, G.R. \,  Cundiff)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: RE: TNC Which one?  Please help`
Date: 22 Mar 96 01:10:57 GMT
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

Dick, N1FIL penned...
>Hi,
>  I have a KAM and like it very much. I enjoy working VHF and HF
>simultaneously so the dual port is for me. I do NOT have a KAM+ because I
>upgraded to the enhancement board which essentially does the same as the
>+. I've checked KAWin and although it's a nice program, if I was to spend
>the money on registering software, I'd go with KAGold. It offers
>conferencing, CDRom interfacing (for callsign lookup ) and the easiest
>multipathing (hop from node to node) that I've experienced on any
>software. I must point out that I'm not using that software at this time
>but did test a Beta copy. I'm currently using PaKet 6.1 which is shareware
>and it is great.

Right on Dick, at least from my perspective.  I have really enjoyed my Kam
after running many different TNC.  I run a 2M/40M gateway here and it does a
bang up job.  I also enjoy Pactor/Gtor with the Kam.

I also agree on KAGold.  I have tried every terminal program I could lay my
hands on.  KAGold it by far my favorite.  It is a pit pricy, and that held
me off for a long time.  I too ran PaKet 6.1 -- a truly outstanding bit of
shareware.  However, when my "ship came in" by way of a Christmas financial
gift I knew just what I wanted to do with the cash, and moved over to KAGold.

No slam on other TNC's or software, but I highly recommend the KAM with
KAGold (or at least PaKet).

73 all...

--Scott

=============================================================
           G.R. "Scott" Cundiff  --  Borger, Texas
Internet:  [e-mail]    ham: N5ASD@N5ASD.#WTX.TX.USA.NOAM
=============================================================




From [e-mail] Sun Mar 24 17:22:52 1996
From: [e-mail] (Chris Evans)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Windows, TCP/IP and packet radio?
Date: Fri, 22 Mar 96 16:41:04 GMT
Message-ID: <4itia8$[e-mail]>

I am interested in getting into packet radio but I do not yet know the
capabilities of packet radio.  Would it be possible to put a machine on the
internet via packet radio?  Also, can I use 56k in all areas and get on the
net or only in areas with a network gateway such as Grapes or the other state
nets?


From [e-mail] Sun Mar 24 17:22:53 1996
From: [e-mail] (Salkintzis K. Apostolis)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: [e-mail] ??
Date: 22 Mar 96 18:20:29 GMT
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>


Sorry, for this mail.
I'm trying to reach a guy [e-mail] that have posted
a 'sale KPC9612' message on this list. As the above address is unavailable,
I'd appreciate any contact help.

73
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From [e-mail] Sat Mar 30 14:17:27 1996
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: 10 GHz data link
Message-ID: <1996Mar25.101547.1532@batman>
From: [e-mail]
Date: Mon, 25 Mar 1996 17:17:24 GMT
Reply-To: [e-mail]

I am looking for construction articles/ instructions on building a
high speed data link using 10 Ghz gunnplexers. I understand there was a
73 article that describe such. Any help regarding the articles or web
sites that address building a high speed link using 10 GHz gunnplexers
would be appreciated.
Thanks & 73's
Byron


From [e-mail] Sat Mar 30 14:17:28 1996
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
From: [e-mail] (Gary Coffman)
Subject: Re: 13-509@9k6?
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail] (Gary Coffman)
References: <[e-mail]>
Date: Fri, 22 Mar 1996 22:20:08 GMT

In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Ja
ck Taylor) writes:
>I've been attempting to set up two Midland 13-509 220 rigs for 9k6
>using TAPR modems.  The transmit portion, adding a varator diode to the
>crystal oscillator stage works well.  However, the eye pattern out of
>the discriminator (before the deemphasis ckt) looks TERRIBLE on both
>radios.
>
>The TAPR modems have EPROMS which apparently can be coded for different
>receiver audio responses.  Unlike the G3RUH style modem, there are NO
>jumper settings available with which to adjust EPROM response, nor do
>the TAPR modems I have, contain ANY documentation on this topic.

Let me clarify something here. Unless every receiver in the system
has the *same* distorted response, neither the TAPR nor G3RUH compensation
system can be used to compensate for receiver response. What these systems
do is predistort the *transmit* waveform, and receivers with different
responses will see that waveform differently, IE it might perfectly
compensate one receiver while making a total hash of what a different
receiver decodes.

I'd suggest using this predistortion feature *solely* to compensate
for *transmitter* distortions. If every transmitter in the system
is compensated to a common output waveform, then any given receiver
will see the same sort of signal regardless of which transmitter emits
it. *Then* you can compensate these individual receivers to operate
properly with that waveform by modification of the individual receiver's
circuitry.

That's the only way to get a consistent functional network.

Sorry this doesn't directly address your question, but I figured
it needed saying.

Gary
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From [e-mail] Sat Mar 30 14:17:30 1996
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: 32bit packet prog. ?
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
From: "D.R. Christiansen (GM7RTH)" <[e-mail]>
Date: Mon, 25 Mar 1996 11:22:39 +0000
References: <4is60b$c2i$[e-mail]>

Noel Gaddo wrote:
>
> I'm looking for a 32bit packet programme to use with Windows95
>
> Are there any programs like this available? So yes.. where?
>
> Thanks in advance..
>
> Noel Gaddo. Warping out of reality at 28.800 bps.
Try looking for a program called WINPAC...it runns in Windows '95..
If you check out the ham section of my homepaghe then there are some
good FTP links there where you can find it..

Sorry about being breif but i have a lecture in 5mins hehe!

--
------------------------
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Computer Engineering (BEng Hons)
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From [e-mail] Sat Mar 30 14:17:31 1996
From: [e-mail] (Ignacio Arenaza Nuno)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: 32bit packet prog. ?
Date: 25 Mar 1996 13:03:09 GMT
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <4j65id$[e-mail]>
References: <4is60b$c2i$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]>

In article <[e-mail]>, "D.R. Christiansen (GM7RTH)" <co
[e-mail]> writes:
: Noel Gaddo wrote:
: >
: > I'm looking for a 32bit packet programme to use with Windows95
: >
: > Are there any programs like this available? So yes.. where?
: >
: > Thanks in advance..
:
: Try looking for a program called WINPAC...it runns in Windows '95..
: If you check out the ham section of my homepaghe then there are some
: good FTP links there where you can find it..
:
: Sorry about being breif but i have a lecture in 5mins hehe!

There is also pr4win at:

        http://www.csesys.co.at/bstroj/pr4win.htm

You have both 16bit and 32bits native versions. You will need a KISS
capable TNC. I haven't tested it yet, but I plan to do it in a few
days. Looks pretty good from descriptions found at the address above.

73.
--
Ignacio ARENAZA
[e-mail]   ----> [ Yes, an EA in HB9! ]
[e-mail]
Finger [e-mail] for PGP Public key.



From [e-mail] Sat Mar 30 14:17:33 1996
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
From: [e-mail] (Gary Coffman)
Subject: Re: 33cm band and spread spectrum tech
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Keywords: 33cm spread spectrum packet tcp
Reply-To: [e-mail] (Gary Coffman)
References: <[e-mail]>
Date: Mon, 25 Mar 1996 18:18:58 GMT

In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (
Tony Blake) writes:
>I have obtained some wireless LAN adapter cards.   The have an effective
>throughput of 2Mb/sec.   The use spread spectrum on a center frequency of 915

>Mhz.    The card has a power rating of 0.5 watts, which is under the legal
>limit of 1 W for unlicensed devices of this kind.   My original plan was to
>recrystal the cards to an appropriate HAM band and use them there.  However,
>I've run into some interesting aspects and questions for which I don't know
>where to find the answers.  I'm hoping someone here may be able to help.
>
>1)  Looking back on my study materials from when I was studying for my ticket
,
>it looks like USA Amateurs have priviledges in the 33cm band, from 902-928
>MHZ, all modes.  My first question is, do we still have them?

Yes. Government radiolocation is primary, private radiolocation is
secondary, and we are tertiary. Part 15 devices are below us in
the priority scheme.

>2) It was my understanding that amateur digital communications must contain
>the callsign of the sender.  A local HAM here said the rule is much stricter
>and that amateurs must use the AX.25 protocol ONLY, for digital
>communications.  Is it true we are limited to only using AX.25 for digital
>communications?

No. We can use unspecified codes here, see 97.309(b). We must ID in
a recognizable manner at the normal intervals of course. We are limited
to the use of AX.25 only if we intend to do unattended automatic forwarding.

>3)  Essentailly these cards operate from 904 MHZ - 926 MHZ.  I have been told

>that this is too wide of a channel.  What is a "channel" and is this true?

These cards operate *spread spectrum* which means that the signal energy
is spread over a channel bandwidth of 22 MHz. This is *not* too wide a
bandwidth for the 33cm band. The rules only require that the signal energy
be contained within the band, and this qualifies.

However, we have more severe limitations on spread spectrum operation than
on ordinary digital signaling.  See 97.311.  The capsule summary is that
we are only allowed to use certain spreading sequences, and the cards you
have *don't* do those spreading sequences. So unless you can modify the
cards to do one of the allowed spreading sequences, you can't use them
under Part 97. (Note: there is currently a docket before the FCC to relax
this requirement. The FCC may act on it at any time, watch www.fcc.gov
for updates.) Also, SS emissions must be identified using Morse Code
in such a manner as to be receivable on a narrowband receiver. This
will also require modifications of the cards.


>Those are my specific questions, however I'm essentially looking to find the

>official rules for digital communications in the 33 MHZ band is, and whether
>or not the FCC limits me to only using the AX.25 protocol.

Every amateur should have an up to date copy of Part 97 in his station.
All the rules are in there. As a quick fix, go to

www.accessone.com/~vbook/hronline.htm

and browse the reference section for an online copy of Part 97.

Gary

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From [e-mail] Sat Mar 30 14:17:34 1996
From: [e-mail] (Christopher K Greenhalgh)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: 33cm band and spread spectrum tech
Date: 25 Mar 1996 19:14:32 GMT
Message-ID: <4j6rao$[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]> <[e-mail]>
Keywords: 33cm spread spectrum packet tcp

In article <[e-mail]>,
Gary Coffman <[e-mail]> wrote:

>These cards operate *spread spectrum* which means that the signal energy
>is spread over a channel bandwidth of 22 MHz. This is *not* too wide a
>bandwidth for the 33cm band. The rules only require that the signal energy
>be contained within the band, and this qualifies.

Hi Gary.

Perhaps you can clarify...does this mean I can transmit "spread spectrum"
om 2 meters, and use all the band (ie; 144 t0 148)? Wouldnt this interfere
with...well...everybody on 2 meters?

Maybe Im missing something here...  :(
--
Christopher K. Greenhalgh, N8WCT
Computer/Electronic Tech. II at The Ohio State University
E-Mail: [e-mail] ([e-mail])
AX.25 : n8wct@w8cqk.#cmh.oh.usa.noam


From [e-mail] Sat Mar 30 14:17:36 1996
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
From: [e-mail] (Gary Coffman)
Subject: Re: 33cm band and spread spectrum tech
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Keywords: 33cm spread spectrum packet tcp
Reply-To: [e-mail] (Gary Coffman)
References: <[e-mail]> <[e-mail]> <4j6rao$[e-mail]>
Date: Tue, 26 Mar 1996 17:43:39 GMT

In article <4j6rao$[e-mail]> [e-mail]
io-state.edu (Christopher K Greenhalgh) writes:
>In article <[e-mail]>,
>Gary Coffman <[e-mail]> wrote:
>
>>These cards operate *spread spectrum* which means that the signal energy
>>is spread over a channel bandwidth of 22 MHz. This is *not* too wide a
>>bandwidth for the 33cm band. The rules only require that the signal energy
>>be contained within the band, and this qualifies.
>
>Hi Gary.
>
>Perhaps you can clarify...does this mean I can transmit "spread spectrum"
>om 2 meters, and use all the band (ie; 144 t0 148)? Wouldnt this interfere
>with...well...everybody on 2 meters?
>
>Maybe Im missing something here...  :(

You're missing a couple of things. A) SS is not allowed on 2m (under
the current rules), and B) by spreading the signal energy over a wide
bandwidth, the amount of energy at any given frequency at any given time
is miniscule, so it doesn't interfere with narrow band users, and of
course SS users have to have their sequences synchronized in order to
hear each other, so by syncing to a different part of a sequence, or
to a different sequence, they avoid interfering with each other too.

As a band fills with many SS signals, the only thing noticable to
a user of the band is a gradual rise in the apparent noise floor.
Unlike with narrow modes, there is no clash of titans as signals
overlap each other, no hetrodyning, splattering, buckshotting,
and desensing of each other.

The thing that makes this possible is called "correlation gain".
A SS receiver is a perfect matched filter for a SS transmission.
It effectively sums all the signal energy back into a coherent
despread whole while *not* correlating noise (and other signals
on the band not synced to the same sequence are for practical
purposes noise). So while to a narrowband user a SS signal is
inaudible, to a user with a synchronized SS receiver it is loud
and clear. And besides the natural and automatic load spreading
and band sharing inherent in SS, there is also another positive
attribute of SS, and that is good immunity to multipath. Because
it transmits on many frequencies, it forms a frequency diversity
system resistant to multipath.

Use of SS is fully compatible with FM, repeaters, ATV, SSB, and
CW operations. The only operators adversely impacted by SS operations
are narrowband weak signal operators. Because of the apparent rise
in the noise floor, very weak signals can be adversely affected.
To avoid that, certain band segments need to be set aside for this
use, and SS systems should use sequences that avoid spreading into
those weak signal segments. That's pretty easy to arrange. Of course,
weak signal operators could *also* take advantage of SS technique and
not be as adversely affected. The inherent diversity in the technique
would be useful to deal with Rayleigh scattering and Faraday rotation
encountered by EME operators, for example.

Gary
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From [e-mail] Sat Mar 30 14:17:37 1996
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
From: [e-mail] (Gary Coffman)
Subject: Re: 56k modem and UHF rig.
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail] (Gary Coffman)
References: <[e-mail]>
Date: Mon, 25 Mar 1996 18:35:39 GMT

In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (
Gary Crum) writes:
>In article <4imh3r$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Brad
>Killebrew) writes:
>>I need to be pointed in the direction where I can find a 56k modem
>>(already built or kit is fine) and a UHF radio that can handle this
>
>>type of xfer.
>
>More info:  The transverters and power amplifier for the WA4DSY 56kbps modem

>cost about $500 per interface (not including the cost of the modem), or at
>least that is the cost of the "RF deck" kit described at:
>http://www.ve7ubc.ampr.org/users/www/56k/56rfdeck.html
>
>So, since that $500 is too much, there is a big missing link here preventing

>that WA4DSY modem from becoming popular.  And, the G3RUH in the SPIRIT-2
>(ready for 38400bps) is similarly crying out for a radio on the market that
>can accomodate wide (60KHz) signals.  Interesting.
>
>Best Regards,
>Gary

You aren't limited to that RF deck kit. We've been using Microwave
Modules MMT432S transverters since the modem was designed. They work
fine, and can be found at hamfests for around $160 (I'm told that
a limited supply of brand new ones have also been located in Britain).
Also, Maple Leaf Communications has some Sinclabs 220 MHz transverters,
which are essentially MMT clones, for around $250, and they also work
fine. And Down East Microwave has a 70 cm transverter kit for $155,
and it works fine too. We have even used the Hamtronics XV4 upconverter
and 70 cm receive converter with the modems, but that isn't recomended
unless the distance to be spanned isn't great, and the site isn't a high
RF site.

10 watts is plenty of power for any line of sight path. Actually,
3 watts is usually fine. If the path is not line of sight, multipath
may cause excessive symbol smearing and a higher BER, and this can
be *aggrevated* by running higher power levels.

Gary
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From [e-mail] Sat Mar 30 14:17:38 1996
From: [e-mail] (Gary Crum)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: 56k modem and UHF rig.
Date: 25 Mar 96 08:00:20 GMT
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

In article <4imh3r$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Brad
Killebrew) writes:
>I need to be pointed in the direction where I can find a 56k modem
>(already built or kit is fine) and a UHF radio that can handle this

>type of xfer.

More info:  The transverters and power amplifier for the WA4DSY 56kbps modem
cost about $500 per interface (not including the cost of the modem), or at
least that is the cost of the "RF deck" kit described at:
http://www.ve7ubc.ampr.org/users/www/56k/56rfdeck.html

So, since that $500 is too much, there is a big missing link here preventing
that WA4DSY modem from becoming popular.  And, the G3RUH in the SPIRIT-2
(ready for 38400bps) is similarly crying out for a radio on the market that
can accomodate wide (60KHz) signals.  Interesting.

Best Regards,
Gary


From [e-mail] Sat Mar 30 14:17:39 1996
From: [e-mail] (Paul Richardson)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: 56kbaud and PacComm
Date: Wed, 27 Mar 1996 18:19:40 GMT
Message-ID: <4jc0up$[e-mail]>


Any info on when will the 56k modem
will be  available fromm PacComm
and what price ?

Thanks.





From [e-mail] Sat Mar 30 14:17:40 1996
From: [e-mail]
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: >>>>HELP - Small VHF Xmitter for Airborne Telemetry<<<<
Date: Tue, 26 Mar 1996 12:30:58 -0800
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

Can someone help me by pointing me to a schematic or an article of a small VHF
 transmitter? It is
to be used to relay telemetry from a series of high altitude rockets. Followin
g are the (desired)
specs:

Frequency:      2m band or nearby; XTAL controlled;
RF Power:       50-250 mW output;
Supply:         9-12 VDC (battery);
Modulation:     N/A

Complexity (ie. size and weight) should be as low as possible, as should the c
ost - lets face it -
the typical life of these devices will be measured in minutes. I would preffer
 to build the
xmitters myself as integral part of a telemetry package.

I have hundreds of various scanner crystals that fit in this category. They ha
ve fundamental
frequencies around 16MHz, but I don t really know if I can use them for this p
roject.

I would very much appreciate any help in this matter. I can be also reached at

        mailto:[e-mail]

My thanks to all those who reply!

73s

Chris (WR1F)


From [e-mail] Sat Mar 30 14:17:41 1996
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc,rec.radio.scanners,rec.radio.homebrew,rec.radio.equipment,rec.radio.shortwave
From: Helmut Strickner <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: audio spectrum analyzer software needed
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Date: Mon, 25 Mar 1996 07:30:49 GMT
References: <[e-mail]>

Paul

you should have a look at HPWFFT1 - HpW Works demo software which is one
of the best around that I have seen.

The author offers two versions of the software, a light version capable
of 2048 points FFT and the full version which does 1048576 points !!
The demo version is limited to 512 points.

Various sound cards are supported.

You can get the demo off compuserve, I dont know exactly which forum,
probably where the other shareware is to be found.

Helmut VK4STR





From [e-mail] Sat Mar 30 14:17:42 1996
From: [e-mail] (Bill Horne)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: AX.25 checksum in tcp/ip
Date: 25 Mar 1996 15:50:51 GMT
Message-ID: <4j6fcr$[e-mail]>
Summary: Should I see the same checksum on tcp resends?
Keywords: tcp AX.25

We've been analyzing the load on our tcp/ip backbone, using a product
intended for AX.25 traffic.  This package detects resends by comparing
the AX.25 checksum with values previously received:  with tcp/ip UA
frames, however, we're not showing any resends.

The question, then, is:  should packets resent by the tcp layer have the
same info in them, time after time?  What would change from packet to
packet that would cause the AX.25 layer to recalculate the checksum?

Thanks for your help.

73, Bill AA1ES

--

Bill Horne
[e-mail]




From [e-mail] Sat Mar 30 14:17:44 1996
From: [e-mail] (Pat Masterson)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: Baycom & Laptops
Date: 25 Mar 1996 15:37:06 -0500
Message-ID: <4j705i$[e-mail]>
References: <4imq4v$[e-mail]>

In article <4imq4v$[e-mail]>,
Bill Rhodes  <[e-mail]> wrote:
>I am attempting to run Baycom software with an older NEC
>Multispeed Laptop (AT, I believe).  The software seems to have
>a problem running the serial port.  When one types a command,
>e.g. [:c w2...] the rig transmmits one burst and the line
>below the transmit window switches from "QRV" to send and
>locks up in that mode.  First opinions were that the modem was
>getting insufficient voltage, however, further experimentation
>with the modem disconnected entirely shows the same mode of
>operation (if I run the same experiment on a 286 desk top that
>I have the s/w operates normally).  A recent opinion is that
>the Baycom s/w needs type 65500 uarts to operate correctly and
>that some laptops do not have them.  Anyone out there have any
>experience with this kind of problem? Thanks for any help and





  This problem is almost ALWAYS from RF getting into the computer
when it starts transmitting.
 Most laptop users find it first, because they're using an HT
which is about a foot away from the computer.
 So, use an outside antenna, as high up as you can get it. This
will also help to avoid hidden-transmitter collisions.  Then do some
shiedlding and grounding. Use some ferrites on the cables between
radio, baycom, and computer. Ground everything you can. I'm quite
sure this will solve your problem.

-pat





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From [e-mail] Sat Mar 30 14:17:45 1996
From: [e-mail] (Pat Masterson)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: Baycom & Laptops
Date: 28 Mar 1996 15:09:45 -0500
Message-ID: <4jerm9$[e-mail]>
References: <4imq4v$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]>

In article <[e-mail]>, Jim Devenport  <[e-mail]> wrote:
>Are you running Baycom Version 1.5 on your laptop?  I too had that
>lockup problem both with my AT laptop as well as occasionally other
>desktop systems.  In my case and in most others that I've heard about,
>switching to Version 1.4 completely cures the lockup problems.  Email me
>for details on getting 1.4 if you don't have it already.  IMHO version
>1.4 is much more robust than 1.5.



 I had the opposite problem. 1.4 was locking up, and I upgraded to 1.5
and the problem went away. Now I'm at 1.6.
 But, I really think its RF geting into the computer that mostly
causes lockups. Seems logical, as its always SEND mode when it hangs.
So, try some grounding and shielding first. And get the antenna
far up and away from the computer.


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From [e-mail] Sat Mar 30 14:17:46 1996
From: [e-mail] (Paul Bobby)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: BAYCOM & Linux
Date: 25 Mar 1996 21:53:44 -0500
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>



Is it possible to use a baycom modem under Linux?
--
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KeyServer ID = 0xD9CEE7C1


From [e-mail] Sat Mar 30 14:17:46 1996
From: [e-mail] (Paul Bobby)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: BAYCOM & Linux
Date: 25 Mar 1996 22:04:29 -0500
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>




Can a baycom modem be used under linux?
--
Paul Bobby - [e-mail]
Key fingerprint =  E1 A4 41 6E 43 48 31 C6  33 EF 9E 48 1A 69 B6 4B
KeyServer ID = 0xD9CEE7C1


From [e-mail] Sat Mar 30 14:17:48 1996
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
From: [e-mail] (Gary Coffman)
Subject: Re: CATV hardline
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail] (Gary Coffman)
References: <[e-mail]>
Date: Mon, 25 Mar 1996 18:46:36 GMT

In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] writes:
>
>I would like to hear of any experiences using cable TV coax for 70 cm
>ham radio.  I have a quantity of what appears to be 7/8 inch coax that
>I assume to be about 75 ohm.  The center conductor is about 3/16 inch
>diameter.  I ran about 125 feet between 50 ohm antenna and UHF radio
>with 40 watts power.  I adapted some PL-258 splice connectors to each
>end of the coax and connected without any matching devices.
>Unfortunately I have an unacceptable VSWR.  I have ordered some matching
>transformers that I hope will correct the problem but was wondering if
>anybody has had good luck with this coax.
>Like I said, I have 40 watts in, about 3:1 VSWR, and 7 watts into the
>antenna at the end of the 125 foot run.

Sounds like you have a bad piece of cable, Gene. Or you did something
horribly wrong when installing the connectors. You should be seeing
a VSWR of about 1.5:1 and a power out of around 38 watts.

You also know that you can cut the 75 ohm cable to a multiple of
a halfwave and get a perfect repetition of the antenna impedance
at the radio, don't you? You'll still have a 1.5:1 VSWR on the
cable, but your radio won't know it.

Gary
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Destructive Testing Systems |    we break it.     | with previous uucp address
es
534 Shannon Way             |    Guaranteed!      | Email to [e-mail]
Lawrenceville, GA 30244     |                     |


From [e-mail] Sat Mar 30 14:17:50 1996
From: [e-mail] (Brian Ellsworth)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: CATV hardline
Date: Tue, 26 Mar 1996 12:03:55 GMT
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail]

On Mon, 25 Mar 1996 06:33:51 -0500, in rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
you wrote:

>I would like to hear of any experiences using cable TV coax for 70 cm
>ham radio.

Hay, it's cheap and it works... What else can you say.

>Unfortunately I have an unacceptable VSWR.  I have ordered some matching
>transformers that I hope will correct the problem but was wondering if
>anybody has had good luck with this coax.

Some thing was wrong. Check the SWR formula a mismatch from 75 to 50
should not have caused this reading. I use 100 feet of TV coax for my
two meter repeater. No matching at all! Even with the small swr caused
by the hardline to antenna miss-match the loss is STILL lower than if
i ran coax....

-be




From [e-mail] Sat Mar 30 14:17:51 1996
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
From: [e-mail] (Gary Coffman)
Subject: Re: CATV hardline
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail] (Gary Coffman)
References: <[e-mail]> <[e-mail]>
Date: Tue, 26 Mar 1996 18:20:30 GMT

In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] writes:
>On Mon, 25 Mar 1996 06:33:51 -0500, in rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
>you wrote:
>
>>I would like to hear of any experiences using cable TV coax for 70 cm
>>ham radio.
>
>Hay, it's cheap and it works... What else can you say.
>
>>Unfortunately I have an unacceptable VSWR.  I have ordered some matching
>>transformers that I hope will correct the problem but was wondering if
>>anybody has had good luck with this coax.
>
>Some thing was wrong. Check the SWR formula a mismatch from 75 to 50
>should not have caused this reading. I use 100 feet of TV coax for my
>two meter repeater. No matching at all! Even with the small swr caused
>by the hardline to antenna miss-match the loss is STILL lower than if
>i ran coax....

Note, however, that unless you are fortunate in the length that you
choose (mulitple of a halfwave), or you are using a circulator at
your duplexer output (normally the circulator would be between the
duplexer and the transmitter instead), the reactance presented by
the mismatched line to the output cavities will detune them. This
is really no big whoop, but it does mean that you'll have to do
final cavity tuning in situ in order to absorb that reactance into
the cavity's final tune. Otherwise you may find that the repeater
sensitivity is much poorer than it should be.

Gary
--
Gary Coffman KE4ZV          |    You make it,     | Due to provider problems
Destructive Testing Systems |    we break it.     | with previous uucp address
es
534 Shannon Way             |    Guaranteed!      | Email to [e-mail]
Lawrenceville, GA 30244     |                     |


From [e-mail] Sat Mar 30 14:17:52 1996
From: [e-mail]
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: CATV hardline
Date: Wed, 27 Mar 1996 20:04:19 -0500
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]> <[e-mail]>

Gary Coffman wrote:
>
> In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] writes:
> >
> >I would like to hear of any experiences using cable TV coax for 70 cm
> >ham radio.  I have a quantity of what appears to be 7/8 inch coax
> -----
> Sounds like you have a bad piece of cable, Gene. Or you did something
> horribly wrong when installing the connectors. You should be seeing
> a VSWR of about 1.5:1 and a power out of around 38 watts.

        Yes thats what I thought going into this and was very
surprised at the results.  The coax is not visibly damaged and
resistance checks are fine.  I might have messed up the transition
to the PL-258's, will re-do them again.
>
> You also know that you can cut the 75 ohm cable to a multiple of
> a halfwave and get a perfect repetition of the antenna impedance
> at the radio, don't you? You'll still have a 1.5:1 VSWR on the
> cable, but your radio won't know it.

        I will try cutting short pieces from the lower end and see
if the VSWR dips.  Thanks for your (and Brians) advise.

--
    Gene Kennedy, Mobile AL
    [e-mail]
    [e-mail]
    [e-mail]


From [e-mail] Sat Mar 30 14:17:54 1996
From: [e-mail] (KT4DI)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.swap,rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: Cheated by MARTIN DURHAM WT1S
Date: 28 Mar 1996 19:13:52 GMT
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <4jeodg$[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail]

Barry,

This is a sad story indeed.  Is there anyone in out here that can contact this
rip-off artist and help Barry get his TNC or money back?  As you can see Barry
is disabled. Here is Martin Durhams address and such:

        WT1S  Martin I. Durham
              404 Spruce Cir.
              Jordan, MN. 55352
              DOB: 14-APR-1964

I hope someone local to this address can help Barry.
--... ...--  -.. .
Paul  KT4DI



>-> From: [e-mail] (Barry Hallett)
>-> Subject: cheated out of tnc
>->
>-> The name is Barry in Dartmouth Nova Scotia, I sent a money order to
>-> MARTIN DURHAM WT1S for $100.00 US funds for a PK 88 tnc. He said he sent
>-> it and it is now 5 months later and no tnc.  I am on a disability
>-> and cant afford this kind of action. If anybody has a very inexpensive
>-> tnc I am still looking for one. I hope this ham that Screwed me out of
>-> money can realy sleep at nite knowing he has done this.
>-> Martin I hope you read this and are happy.
>-> 73 barry
>-> --
>-> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>-> --------- Barry Hallett
>-> VE1MUS
>-> [e-mail]
>-> Lawrencetown, Nova Scotia, Canada
>-> [phone]
>-> _____________________________________________________________________



From [e-mail] Sat Mar 30 14:17:55 1996
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
From: [e-mail] (Bob Grattan)
Subject: Data Engine + Tekk KS-1000
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Date: Fri, 29 Mar 1996 13:00:06 GMT

I'm having problems getting a Tekk KS-1000 (5 watt version)
working with a Data Engine (9600 kb).  Units are working ok but
my jnos (110m) parameters must be off.  I can ping stations ok
but telnet and smtp hang after they make a connect.

Could someone mail me a simple autoexec.nos that would work and
on which I could add options?  E-mail: [e-mail] or
[e-mail].  Many thanks and 73,

Bob - N4MRV
Ashland, VA
--
_____________________________________________________________
Bob Grattan, Systems Librarian          tel: [phone]
Mary Washington College                 fax: [phone]
Fredericksburg, VA  22401-4664          [e-mail]


From [e-mail] Sat Mar 30 14:17:56 1996
From: [e-mail] (David Covert)
Subject: Easy WEFAX
Date: 25 Mar 96 21:04:05 -0800
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc


I seem to remember a thread on WEFAX that could be received with a
shortwave radio (not a full rig), a sound card, and some software.

Can anyone recommend a good 'listener's radio' that I could dedicate to WEFAX?
How about sound card WEFAX software for Windows?

Dave Covert, KB5GOG
http://www.outreach.com/webridge/davec


From [e-mail] Sat Mar 30 14:17:56 1996
From: [e-mail] (willi_r)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: ForSale   HAL   P38
Date: 23 Mar 1996 21:45:29 GMT
Message-ID: <4j1rdp$[e-mail]>
References: <4iiqrl$[e-mail]>

In article <4iiqrl$[e-mail]>, Will <[e-mail]> says:
>
>I have for sale a HAL P38 Board, comes with RagChew and Express 3.5 software.
>
>$300.00

How come you want to sell the P38? I have one and although it is not
practical to operate in Pactor mode as yet due to apparently serious
problems that HAL has not been able to help solve yet, it sure is nice
for Clover and especially great for rtty, far outperforming any modem
I have ever used on rtty.




From [e-mail] Sat Mar 30 14:17:57 1996
From: Micky Corrow <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: FS: PC PakRatt 2 for Windows
Date: Sun, 24 Mar 1996 22:35:14 -0500
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

I have for sale to the highest bidder:

AEA PC PakRatt 2 software, original disks,
including PK FAX and the original box and
manual. I would like to get $50.00 for it,
originally it was $120.00. I also wanna
sell my PK-232MBX...This software works well
with Windows 3.1x and Win'95. Controls ALL
AEA TNC models. Original pkg. from AEA.

Email ONLY to [e-mail]

Thanks, Micky


From [e-mail] Sat Mar 30 14:17:58 1996
From: [e-mail] (Dana Myers)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: GE Master II query
Date: 26 Mar 1996 17:54:11 GMT
Message-ID: <4j9b03$[e-mail]>
References: <4j9564$[e-mail]>

In article <4j9564$[e-mail]>,
Christopher K Greenhalgh <[e-mail]> wrote:
>Hello all.
>
>I just got my hands on a GE Master II UHF rig with remote console, mic,
>external speaker, and interface cable...basiclly complete.
>
>I am wanting to put it on 9600 bbs packet. Since this is a rock bound
>rig (has 8 "channels"), will it work well?

Maybe.  I've never worked on the UHF radios, but the VHF radios are
phase modulated, which is inherent unsuitable for 9600 baud operation.
If the UHF radio is also PM, then you'll have to modify it.

>Someone also told me this is a 90 watt unit...does anybody have ANY
>information on this radio...watts, amp draw, pin out on console, schematic,
>crystal source...anything at all, including what it is worth, would be
>most appreciated.

You can probably find a service manual at a hamfest, or call G.E. -
the number was recently posted by Tony Cardenas - 800-528-7711.

Good luck!
Dana

--
 * Dana H. Myers KK6JQ, DoD#: j | Views expressed here are mine and should *
 * [phone]               | not be interpreted or represented as     *
 * [e-mail]      | those of Sun Microsystems, Inc.          *



From [e-mail] Sat Mar 30 14:17:59 1996
From: [e-mail] (Dave Mullenix)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Got Packet checksum code - thanks!
Date: 27 Mar 1996 01:45:24 GMT
Message-ID: <4ja6jk$[e-mail]>

Thanks to MANY people, I now have source code for calculating
packet checksums.

Thanks everybody!
Dave, N9LTD



From [e-mail] Sat Mar 30 14:18:00 1996
From: Mark Schoonover <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: Got Packet checksum code - thanks!
Date: Wed, 27 Mar 1996 16:29:57 -0800
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <4ja6jk$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]>

Hello!

I am also interested. Is there a place I can ftp
this gem of info from??

TIA

Mark -- KA6WKE


From [e-mail] Sat Mar 30 14:18:01 1996
From: Rhett Spencer <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Ham Radio Email Address Dual Address Email Boxes
Date: Sat, 23 Mar 1996 22:41:18 -0700
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

FYI..

Dual Address Email Boxes!

Simple General Public Address of [e-mail]

Second Address of [e-mail]

Either address delivers mail to the same Box.

Can Be used to forward your mail to your regular Email Address.

Take A look At http://www.wwwholesale.com/pobox1/73.htm

73's  N7DGL


From [e-mail] Sat Mar 30 14:18:02 1996
From: [e-mail] (Don Nelsch)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: Ham-Digital Digest V96 #108
Date: 26 Mar 96 03:55:16 GMT
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]>

unsubscribe





From [e-mail] Sat Mar 30 14:18:03 1996
From: [e-mail] (Michael C. McHugh (TA2ZG/W2AV))
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: Help on packet checksums
Date: 23 Mar 96 17:53:43 GMT
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

On 21 Mar 1996 [e-mail] (Dave Mullenix) wrote:

> Does anybody know how to calculate the checksum for a standard
> packet?  The AX.25 FAQ sheet says it's calculated as described in
> a certain ISO standard, but I have no access to those standards.
>
> Can anybody describe how the checksum is calculated or post a bit
> of source code in just about any language that does the calculation?

Hi, Dave -

The AX.25 Frame Check Sequence is a 16 bit CRC.  It is usually
implemented using a lookup table.  Get AX25DRV.LZH, the xNOS packet
driver for BayCom-type modems by Pawel Jalocha.  The 8086 assembler
source code is included and contains a good example of using a
lookup table to calculate a 16 bit CRC.  I'm told it can be found at
ftp://ftp.ucsd.edu/hamradio/packet/tcpip/baycom/.  They may have it
as a .ZIP file, not sure.

I also have a public domain QuickBASIC example by Lyle Jensen called
CRCTEST.BAS.  It's about 5 kB; I can send it to you as email if you
want.  Drop me a line.

Have fun - 73



From [e-mail] Sat Mar 30 14:18:04 1996
From: [e-mail] (Phil Pittard)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Help: AMSTRAD PC2286/40
Date: 29 Mar 96 17:41:02 GMT
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>



Hi - this probably is not the best place to put this plea for help but it'll
have to do.
I just bought (for $20) an AMSTRAD PC2286/40 Computer to dedicate to JNOS
activity - problem is its been sitting in someones garage for years &
batteries were very flat & the thing has "lost its memory" & consequently I
cant access the 40 mb hard drive - on bootup it just tells me to run SETUP
to set user options. I have searched local sources & the entire Internet & I
cannot find anyone who has the setup exe or the disks etc.
Does anyone in this group have such disk(s) & if so could you e-mail me
whatever I need to tell the damn thing its got a hard drive!
Thanks PHIL VK5HAM
Phil Pittard (Australian Amateur Radio Station VK5HAM)
AMATEUR RADIO AX-25 ADDRESS: VK5HAM @VK5SR.#WEV.VIC.AUS.OC
< VOICE + PACKET - SATELLITE TV/RADIO - SCPC - ALL BAND MONITORING >
E-MAIL ADDRESS:  [e-mail]
Mary-Ann Pittard  E-MAIL ADDRESS: [e-mail]
SNAIL MAIL:PHIL & MARY-ANN PITTARD BOX 8119,MT GAMBIER EAST,S.A, 5291



From [e-mail] Sat Mar 30 14:18:05 1996
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
From: [e-mail] (Gary Coffman)
Subject: Re: How to handle power in routing
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail] (Gary Coffman)
References: <4iuu5j$[e-mail]>
Date: Sat, 23 Mar 1996 16:16:58 GMT

In article <4iuu5j$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Paul E. Campbell) writes
:
>
>But going from the details of the link layer to the transport layer (I've als
o
>considered the various collision free slotted and unslotted protocols), how
>does one determine how to route?
>
>When one doesn't consider the possibility of power control and/or
>congestion, then routing is simple.. compute the shortest available path
>(passing through the fewest number of nodes).
>
>But what about congestion? And what about power control? Under low congestion
>for instance, then you would want to follow the first method which means
>boosting your power levels to send the packet as far as possible (while
>simultaneously colliding with intervening nodes). But under high congestion
>or with a local area of congestion, one wants to route around the congestion
>or decrease power while going through it to limit the amount of interference
>generated by your message.
>
>Are there any algorithms or analyses or anything in this area? Or am I
>looking for something that doesn't exist?

You assign each possible route a metric determined by recent history
of round trip times for other packets. The one with the shortest round
trip time becomes the preferred route. To seed this process, you assign
routes randomly to the first n packets, with n being the number of
possible routes, and use their history as the metric. When your selected
best route's performance drops some selected percentage, you do another
n packet set of trials and reselect for best route.

This should be done on a router by router basis, not on a connection
by connection basis for best results. That lets you take advantage of
other traffic on the system to provide route metrics. If you like,
you can add some statistical multiplexing into the process by randomly
assigning an occasional packet to a not recently used route. This
spreads the loading and gives you updated route metrics. If additionally
you allow the routers to pass their metrics to each other, more deterministic
routing decisions can be made.

Gary
--
Gary Coffman KE4ZV          |    You make it,     | Due to provider problems
Destructive Testing Systems |    we break it.     | with previous uucp address
es
534 Shannon Way             |    Guaranteed!      | Email to [e-mail]
Lawrenceville, GA 30244     |                     |


From [e-mail] Sat Mar 30 14:18:06 1996
From: Phil Karn <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: How to handle power in routing
Date: Mon, 25 Mar 1996 19:51:21 -0800
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <4iuu5j$[e-mail]>
To: "Paul E. Campbell" <[e-mail]>, [e-mail]

Paul,

I did some thinking about this problem about 5 years ago, but
I haven't actually implemented anything. Check the ARRL Computer
Networking Conference proceedings in that time frame.

I think it was the 1991 conference at which I presented my ideas
for minimum interference routing. This is very similar to, but
not quite the same as, minimum energy routing.

The idea in minimum energy routing is that once you implement
automatic power control in each node, you can construct a routing
table in which the link metrics to each neighbor are a direct function
of the power required to reach it. If you then let the routing
algorithm minimize the cumulative metric, you effectively find the
path that minimizes the total energy, summed over all the nodes,
required to reach that particular destination.

This idea was proposed some time earlier in the DARPA MSS (multiple
satellite system) project. I modified it somewhat for terrestrial
use by recognizing that the nodes are generally not evenly distributed,
and the topology isn't very uniform either. So I suggested picking
a routing metric for each neighbor that was a function of how
many other neighboring receivers you'd be forced to capture to reach
that particular node.

Again, the idea is to minimize the total interference caused in
getting a packet from point A to point B. With these algorithms,
the networks will automatically prefer a path consisting of many
closely spaced nodes over one involving long hops that require lots
of power. This helps maximize geographic reuse of the spectrum.

Phil


From [e-mail] Sat Mar 30 14:18:08 1996
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
From: [e-mail] (Gary Coffman)
Subject: Re: How to handle power in routing
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail] (Gary Coffman)
References: <4iuu5j$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]>
Date: Tue, 26 Mar 1996 18:14:25 GMT

In article <[e-mail]> Phil Karn <[e-mail]> writ
es:
>Again, the idea is to minimize the total interference caused in
>getting a packet from point A to point B. With these algorithms,
>the networks will automatically prefer a path consisting of many
>closely spaced nodes over one involving long hops that require lots
>of power. This helps maximize geographic reuse of the spectrum.

Two things to note, however. Interactive latency increases geometrically
as the number of relay hops increase on any given path. And it only takes
a very few "exposed" terminals to crash the entire area wide system, IE
from some sites you just can't throttle power back enough to simultaneously
connect with *somebody* without also being heard by nearly *everybody*
else.

Unlike commercial systems where site location can be closely controlled,
amateur networks have to deal with where the amateurs are, not where they
ought to be for best network performance. Given the relatively small
number of operators and their rather arbitrary and uneven geographic
distribution, other topologies and metrics are likely to perform better.

Either use of duplex digital repeaters on high sites, or use of non-
contending spoke and hub microwave directional systems, are one or both
likely to be better than this quasi-cellular approach given amateur
numeric, geographic, technical, and financial realities and considering
average latency and the ability of a few exposed terminals to seriously
degrade the quasi-cellular system.

Note that if the system were true cellular, with relay done on trunks
operating on a different channel(s), then the system would be much
better. But that requires a degree of political cooperation and financial
investment beyond most area's amateurs.

Gary
--
Gary Coffman KE4ZV          |    You make it,     | Due to provider problems
Destructive Testing Systems |    we break it.     | with previous uucp address
es
534 Shannon Way             |    Guaranteed!      | Email to [e-mail]
Lawrenceville, GA 30244     |                     |


From [e-mail] Sat Mar 30 14:18:09 1996
From: [e-mail]
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: KAM Upgrades
Date: 29 Mar 1996 23:04:32 GMT
Message-ID: <4jhqa0$[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]>

Luru,

The Kantronics web page lists current ROM versions and
gives information on upgrading older units.

The URL is http://www.kantronics.com

Bill Young
[e-mail]
KB0UZQ


From [e-mail] Sat Mar 30 14:18:09 1996
From: Marinus Willemstijn <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: KAMPLUS & WEFAX
Date: 27 Mar 1996 11:39:24 GMT
Message-ID: <4jb9dc$[e-mail]>

What software can I use to use the wefax facility on my kamplus
and can i decode a wefax signal relayed onto 2m fm?

Marinus ZS6MAW
[e-mail]



From [e-mail] Sat Mar 30 14:18:11 1996
From: [e-mail] (Christopher K. Greenhalgh)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Kantronics Help!
Date: Thu, 28 Mar 1996 22:06:02 GMT
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

Hello all.

I have a friends Kantronics Paket Communicator. No version number...so I assum
e
its their first one. The man. date is 1985, its in a white case, has no mail
box, and only has 3 front lamps (xmit, rcv, and power).

The problem is this; the unit works fine, but only for about 10 or 15 minutes.

After that, the recieve audio begins to chop, which is supplied via stand
alone cable, 1/8 mono plug in...to 1/8 mono plug out.

Now the tricky part...if we remove the data/ptt cable, it "hears" fine. We
have quadruple checked this cable, including an amp load test, and its
integrity is fine.

BTW, its interfaced with a Kenwood 241a, and we have tried 3 different 241s.

Any ideas, suggestions, help?

Thanks much, & take care.


Christopher K. Greenhalgh, N8WCT
Computer/Electronic Tech. II at The Ohio State University
E-Mail: [e-mail] ([e-mail])
AX.25 : n8wct@w8cqk.#cmh.oh.usa.noam


From [e-mail] Sat Mar 30 14:18:12 1996
From: [e-mail] (Bob Martin N6MZV)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: LAWYERS/LEGAL NET(S) 20 M
Date: Thu, 21 Mar 1996 20:41:49 -0800
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]>

In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Ed
Scallon) wrote:

> Ham Radio Operators:
>
>     I am looking for a Legal / Lawyer(s) net 20 meters or any open bands
> in this area.
>
>     Please respond via mail or fax to [phone]
>
> Tnx
>     73's
>
> -Ed Scallon
> N1KHL

Geez-  I'm a patent attorney, but 20 meters is really dead by the time
I get home- maybe in a few years when the sunspots are in our favour again!

73-

--

Bob Martin N6MZV          * [e-mail]


From [e-mail] Sat Mar 30 14:18:13 1996
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: LINUX: tnos not finding domain.txt
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
From: "D.R. Christiansen (GM7RTH)" <[e-mail]>
Date: Mon, 25 Mar 1996 11:25:06 +0000

HI there..
          I have yet to get TNOS V2.02 to recognise the hosts in my
domain.txt..no matter where i put the file.
I have tried everything i can think of but it still throws up the text
unknown host or as of late crashes that session..

HELP!!!
Where should i put it ?
What format should it be ??

Byee for now and and I hope someone can help

David
gm7rth@gb7eiy.#78.gbr.eu
44.131.14.110/115/117/125/145

--
------------------------
----------------------
David Christiansen
Computer Engineering (BEng Hons)
------------------------
----------------------
http://diana40.paisley.ac.uk/~com10027/
mailto:[e-mail]
-- Mathematics and alcohol don't mix...Don't drink and derive --


From [e-mail] Sat Mar 30 14:18:14 1996
From: [e-mail] (Ignacio Arenaza Nuno)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: LINUX: tnos not finding domain.txt
Date: 25 Mar 1996 13:12:13 GMT
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <4j663d$[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]>

In article <[e-mail]>, "D.R. Christiansen (GM7RTH)" <co
[e-mail]> writes:
: HI there..
:           I have yet to get TNOS V2.02 to recognise the hosts in my
: domain.txt..no matter where i put the file.
: I have tried everything i can think of but it still throws up the text
: unknown host or as of late crashes that session..
:
: HELP!!!
: Where should i put it ?
: What format should it be ??
:
: Byee for now and and I hope someone can help
:
: David
: gm7rth@gb7eiy.#78.gbr.eu
: 44.131.14.110/115/117/125/145

Hi David,

As the file "new2tn2.02" says, the directory structure has
substantially changed in version 2.02 of TNOS. The "domain.txt" file
is now located under the "spool" directory. I suggest you getting the
file and reading it carefully. You can get it at:

        ftp://ftp.ucsd.edu/hamradio/packet/tcpip/incoming/new2tn2.02

or one of its mirrors. Hope this helps.

73.
--
Ignacio ARENAZA
[e-mail]   ----> [ Yes, an EA in HB9! ]
[e-mail]
Finger [e-mail] for PGP Public key.



From [e-mail] Sat Mar 30 14:18:15 1996
From: [e-mail]
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: LINUX: tnos not finding domain.txt
Date: 26 Mar 1996 18:19:08 GMT
Message-ID: <4j9ces$[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail]

In <[e-mail]>, "D.R. Christiansen (GM7RTH)" <com10027@p
aisley.ac.uk> writes:
>HI there..
>          I have yet to get TNOS V2.02 to recognise the hosts in my
>domain.txt..no matter where i put the file.
>I have tried everything i can think of but it still throws up the text
>unknown host or as of late crashes that session..
>
>HELP!!!
>Where should i put it ?
>What format should it be ??
>
>Byee for now and and I hope someone can help
>
>David
>gm7rth@gb7eiy.#78.gbr.eu
>44.131.14.110/115/117/125/145

    Did you read features.new that cames with 2.02? A WHOLE BUNCH of files
were moved from the root and spool directory to the \nos\etc directory.
One of these was the domain.txt file.

73's  de  Jack   -  kf5mg
Internet / hobby -  [e-mail]              - home [phone]
           work  -  [e-mail]                - work [phone]
            or   -  [e-mail]
+=========================================================================+
+     I am Homer of Borg.... prepare to be assim... oooo... Donuts...     +
+=========================================================================+



From [e-mail] Sat Mar 30 14:18:16 1996
From: [e-mail] (Gareth Rowlands)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: LINUX: tnos not finding domain.txt
Date: Mon, 25 Mar 1996 13:54:14 GMT
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail]

In article <[e-mail]>,
          [e-mail] ("D.R. Christiansen (GM7RTH)") wrote:

> HI there..
>           I have yet to get TNOS V2.02 to recognise the hosts in my
> domain.txt..no matter where i put the file.

Bung it in the spool directory of your TNOS root, e.g. /tnos/spool

Entries should be of the form:

gm9xxx.ampr.org. IN A 44.131.14.254

But don't worry if Tabs / extra white space appears.  The important bit
is callsign.ampr.org.  Note the ampr.org. and the trailing full stop

Here are the entries in my autoexec.

#
domain addserver 44.131.178.10 20
domain cache clean off
domain cache size 20
domain cache wait 300
domain dns on
domain localtrans on
domain maxwait 20
domain retries 3
domain subnet off
domain suffix ampr.org.
domain trace off
domain translate on
domain ttl 864000
domain update on
domain verbose off
#

73, Gareth.



From [e-mail] Sat Mar 30 14:18:17 1996
From: Fred <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: LINUX: tnos not finding domain.txt
Date: Wed, 27 Mar 1996 06:45:23 -0500
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]>

On Mon, 25 Mar 1996, D.R. Christiansen (GM7RTH) wrote:

> HI there..
>           I have yet to get TNOS V2.02 to recognise the hosts in my
> domain.txt..no matter where i put the file.
> I have tried everything i can think of but it still throws up the text
> unknown host or as of late crashes that session..
>
> HELP!!!
> Where should i put it ?
It should be in the /etc directory


> What format should it be ??
I use the same format that worked with jnos and have no trouble
snip snip snip

with 2.02 many things were moved to the etc directory.


Fred

Fred Peerenboom
internet: [e-mail]
Amateur Radio: ke8tq@n8acv.#day.oh.usa.noam



From [e-mail] Sat Mar 30 14:18:18 1996
From: [e-mail] (Gary L. Johnson)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: Looking For Software
Date: 25 Mar 1996 23:09:36 GMT
Message-ID: <4j793g$[e-mail]>
References: <4ik66j$[e-mail]>

In article <4ik66j$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Tim Cook) says:
>
>I am looking for a good package to use with my pk-232. I had used
>XPCOM in the past, but don't know if KF7XP still produces the program
>or not.  I know there are others out there.  Any suggestions? Is XPCOM
>still being produced? How about AEA Packratt for Windows?  I'll buy
>commercial software, or use freeware, just want something that works
>well and is relatively bug free...
>Please email with any info..
>Thanks
>Tim
>NZ8J
>

Yes,  I am still writing and supporting ther software.  It is
available at the WEB and FTP site shown in the signature of this
message.

73 Garu

******************************************************************************
*****
Gary L. Johnson                            * XPCOM / XPDUAL / XPKAM / XPPTC
[e-mail]                      * BBS [phone]
CIS: 74041,2317                            * Voice [phone]
FTP: ftp.indirect.com    pub/www/gjohnson  * http://www.indirect.com/user/gjoh
nson/
******************************************************************************
*****


From [e-mail] Sat Mar 30 14:18:20 1996
From: [e-mail] (Eugene L. Olson)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: Looking For Software
Date: Thu, 28 Mar 1996 23:53:47 GMT
Message-ID: <4jf8r6$[e-mail]>
References: <4ik66j$[e-mail]> <4j793g$[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail]

[e-mail] (Gary L. Johnson) wrote:

:In article <4ik66j$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Tim Cook) says:
:>
:>I am looking for a good package to use with my pk-232. I had used
:>XPCOM in the past, but don't know if KF7XP still produces the program
:>or not.  I know there are others out there.  Any suggestions? Is XPCOM
:>still being produced? How about AEA Packratt for Windows?  I'll buy
:>commercial software, or use freeware, just want something that works
:>well and is relatively bug free...
:>Please email with any info..
:>Thanks
:>Tim
:>NZ8J
:>

There is a program called  "paKet 6" that really works well with the
PK-232 and it has a lot of nice features.  It does not have all mode
support built into it but if you know the keyboard commands for each
mode you can run any mode with it.  Overall it is a heck of a nice
program.

I have also been using the PC-Pakratt II for Windows program.  It
supports all modes of operation and works with any TNC that AEA
has on the market.  It works great with Windows 3.1.  There does seem
to be a little glitch when used with Windows 95.  When you select and
save a font, it does not always come up with that font when you run
the program.  I am not overly concerned by that though.

Another program I have been playing with is called WinPack 5.4.
It is freeware and is one heck of a nice packet program for 2 meter
operation.  It supports multimedia sounds, gets your mail and
bulletins off the local BBS automatically and does Yapp file transfers
for a starter.  NOT TOO SHABBY!

Hope this helps a little ... Bye


==================================================
Eugene L. Olson, "Ole" - Amateur Radio Call: KC0RL
EMAIL: [e-mail]  - Packet Radio: KC0RL@W0LKD
==================================================



From [e-mail] Sat Mar 30 14:18:21 1996
From: [e-mail] (Derrick Cole)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Low power output with PK-232 and TS-440
Date: 23 Mar 1996 04:11:12 GMT
Message-ID: <4ivtl0$[e-mail]>

Greetings!

I've got a "late-model" PK-232MBX connected from Radio 1 to ACC 2 on a
TS-440/AT with an AEA cable.  I'm currently experiencing two... phenomena:

1. With R151 (resistor associated with the Radio 1 Jack on the '232) clipped,
   the best I can do is 25-30 W.  Clipping the resistor is recommended by AEA
   specifically for '440 radios connected in the above fashion.

2. Apparently, when the '232 keys the '440 through the ACC 2 jack, if a PTT
   mic is connected, it's keyed, too.

Can/Will anyone help diagnose/explain what's going on?  I can key up with
the PPT mic and fully drive the transmitter at/near 100W, so I don't believe
it's an overall output problem.

Thanks and 73 de KC4WEJ,
Derrick


From [e-mail] Sat Mar 30 14:18:22 1996
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
From: [e-mail] (Foster Kartsotis)
Subject: native tcpip from win95 to 2meter?
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Date: Mon, 25 Mar 1996 13:25:15 GMT

Has anyone used dial-up networking in win95 to get onto 2 meter tcpip?
Seems to me its not necessary to use a third party nos when win95
comes with a real nice tcpip package.  Is tcpip on 2 meters using slip
or ppp?  I know win95 can handle mutlihomed connects as i can easily
be on a LAN and dial-up to my ISP via dial-up networking.  Windows
knows where to send the packets and does quite well.  This same
feature would make a nice 32bit connection to 2 meter tcpip.

has anyone given this a try?

foster
n3jku
[e-mail]


From [e-mail] Sat Mar 30 14:18:24 1996
From: "S. Sampson" <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc,rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: NWS WWIN EMWIN and One-Way Data Solutions
Date: Sun, 24 Mar 1996 22:34:04 -0600
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

A friend of mine went to the Tulsa hamfest this weekend, and saw
a demo by SkyWalker Data Systems.  They sell a decoder for the NWS data
transmissions.  I hadn't heard of this, and it sounded interesting to see
what I could find on the Web.  It was quite a battle with the several search
engines, but I finally did track down the main page.  It is:

        http://www.nws.noaa.gov/oso/oso1/oso12/document/emwin.htm

There's a schematic and protocol description.  Basically it is 1200,N,8,1
and the components are a TCM3105 and a MAX232.  Here locally (Oklahoma
City area) the data is transmitted on 169.025.

I think this is a great application for home use.  How many of us really
listen to the NWS audio?  The data products will be of much higher value.

I notice that Kantronics has released their new Amateur Paging upgrade to
the KPC-9612.  It might make a great combo to transmit Alerts via
alphanumeric pagers (people chasing storms).  I can see the need for voice
diminishing, and the greater throughput and reliability that can be
achieved.  I'm sure there are many more applications for both of these
systems.  I'm thinking about making a clone of the NWS idea and transmitting
all the BBS messages as files.  A person would never have to log on to
a BBS ever again.  Anyone could just tune an old scanner to the frequency
and use the software to store each file.  You could then read the junk once
a month a keep up with the Morse Code debate :-)

Here's the two companies with products:

1)   Maryland Radio Center, Inc.
     8576 Laureldale Drive
     Laurel, MD  20724
     [phone]
     [phone]
     BBS with demo software [phone]
     EMWIN datastream on-line demo, 1200-8-N-1  [phone]

     a)   MRC demodulator kit, unassembled                         $29.95
     b)   MRC demodulator, assembled and tested                    $69.95
     c)   MRC Weathernode software                                 $49.95
     d)   MRC WeatherNode software plus the demodulator kit        $69.95
     e)   MRC WeatherNode software plus the assembled demodulator  $99.95

     $5 shipping, + 5% sales tax for MD addresses.
     Call for their latest prices and special discounts.

2)   SkyWalker Data Systems, Inc.
     7303 West 35th Str.
     Tulsa, OK  74107
     [phone]

     a)   MRC Weathernode software plus the assembled demodulator  $99.95
     $5 shipping, + 4.5% sales tax for OK addresses.

--
Steve Sampson, N5OWK
mailto:[e-mail]


From [e-mail] Sat Mar 30 14:18:25 1996
From: Bob Winingham <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: Packet modems with GPS
Date: 24 Mar 1996 05:59:41 GMT
Message-ID: <4j2ocd$[e-mail]>
References: <4is9g9$[e-mail]>
To: [e-mail]

>>This would be great. Please could you let me know what they mean with
>>"Does GPS" and waht else I would need to create my own little GPS
>>receiver.

NO

What they are saying is that you can connect
your own GPS unit to the TNC modem and SEND GPS location
info over your radio with out a computer running the TNC.

73

[e-mail]




From [e-mail] Sat Mar 30 14:18:28 1996
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
From: [e-mail] (James W. Lynch)
Subject: Re: pakratt help!
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail]
References: <[e-mail]>
Date: 26 Mar 96 10:06:14 CST

Foster Kartsotis ([e-mail]) wrote:
: received my new pakratt pk232-mbx friday and she stopped working
: saturday.  seems i issued a reset command to restore the factory
: original settings and now shes braindead.  i power-on and do not
: receive the boot-up screen.  lights come on and she goes right to
: baudot mode but nobody is home.

: is there a way i can do a hard reset on this unit?

: any help would be appreciated.

: foster
: n3jku

When you enter a reset command, the baud rate goes back to a default rate
but I don't know what it is for sure.   Look in the manual.  What it is
waiting for is someone to type an *.  That will enable the TNC to
autodetect the baud rate.  Even if you do the hard reset on the PK-232,
you will have to figure out how to enter the *.  How you enter it
is really dependent on your software.  I suggest reading the
docs that came with the software to see if it covers resets.

Jim.

--
------------------------------------------------------------------------
Jim Lynch, Sales Analyst,  Cray Research, Inc. / ARS: K4GVO
Southeast District, Phone: [phone], Email: [e-mail]
Suite 270, 200 Westpark Drive, Peachtree City, GA 30269


From [e-mail] Sat Mar 30 14:18:29 1996
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: pakratt help!
From: [e-mail] (Ibrahim Alshugair)
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]>
Date: Mon, 25 Mar 96 00:23:00 +0300

Hi
-> received my new pakratt pk232-mbx friday and she stopped working
-> saturday.  seems i issued a reset command to restore the factory
-> original settings and now shes braindead.  i power-on and do not
-> receive the boot-up screen.  lights come on and she goes right to
-> baudot mode but nobody is home.
->
-> is there a way i can do a hard reset on this unit?
->
-> any help would be appreciated.
OK Try this
Keep your tnc off load the program after that switch it on then press *
star for 4 or 5 times one after another it w'll initiat the tnc.
if it did not work try to use Lan-Link program  if its available with u
and do the same above steps then  Esc ,N ,I these w'll initiate it sure
it w'll work.
hope these tips w'll help u ..
Best 73's from Saudi Arabia de Ibrahim
E-mail  [e-mail]


From [e-mail] Sat Mar 30 14:18:30 1996
From: [e-mail] (Simon Quantrill)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: PKTDRVERS
Date: 26 Mar 96 21:31:30 GMT
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail]

Hi Could anybody point me to the cyrm?? packet driver source code ?
I need the plip driver for my jnos - linux hook up.
Cheers..





From [e-mail] Sat Mar 30 14:18:31 1996
From: Dave Maciorowski <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: PKTDRVERS
Date: 27 Mar 1996 12:51:41 GMT
Message-ID: <4jbdkt$[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]>
To: [e-mail]

[e-mail] (Simon Quantrill) wrote:
>Hi Could anybody point me to the cyrm?? packet driver source code ?
>I need the plip driver for my jnos - linux hook up.
>Cheers..

Packet drivers, utilities, and source are available at:

       ftp://oak.oakland.edu/simtel/msdos/pktdrvr/

-----
Dave Maciorowski, WA1JHK
Colorado Repeater Association, Inc.
  Serving Colorado with Voice and Data, 6-Meters to 1.2 Gig

Internet: [e-mail] or [e-mail]
CRA:      http://www.rmsd.com/hamradio/cra/




From [e-mail] Sat Mar 30 14:18:32 1996
From: BOYCRUZ <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: phl.media,rec.antiques.radio+phono,rec.radio.amateur.antenna,rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc,rec.radio.amateur.equipment
Subject: Popular Commun Free Back Issues
Date: 30 Mar 1996 18:04:49 GMT
Message-ID: <4jjt41$hsq$[e-mail]>

I have around two dozen POPULAR COMMUNICATIONS magazines from the
late
1980s     years 1987  88 and 89 and have no use for them anymore
I would be willing to give these away individually or all together
if you want to pay postage
Contact me for further info!
Lots of articles on shortwave, dxing, radio stations   etc


From [e-mail] Sat Mar 30 14:18:33 1996
From: Mike Berg <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: Q: MFJ 2mtr Data Radios
Date: Tue, 19 Mar 96 17:08:43 PDT
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <4i9u8s$[e-mail]>


In Article<4i9u8s$[e-mail]>, <[e-mail]> write:
> Path: cronkite.polaristel.net!news4.mr.net!mr.net!chi-news.cic.net!news.math
.psu.edu!psuvax1!uwm.edu!math.ohio-state.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!newsfeed.i
nternetmci.com!in2.uu.net!news.nkn.net!news
> From: [e-mail]
> Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
> Subject: Q: MFJ 2mtr Data Radios
> Date: 14 Mar 1996 20:06:52 GMT
> Organization: National Knowledge Network
> Lines: 13
> Message-ID: <4i9u8s$[e-mail]>
> Reply-To: [e-mail]
> NNTP-Posting-Host: kf5mg.ttsi.tandem.com
> X-Newsreader: IBM NewsReader/2 v1.2.5
>
>    Does anyone have any experience with the MFJ Data Radio running on a
> 9600b link? I read the Apr96 ( or was it Mar96 ) that had a small, write up
> on it. The article indicated that it had a poor receiver and that the
> author didn't try and do any 9600b stuff. Any info on it's performance or
> mods needed for 9600b would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
>
> 73's  de  Jack   -  kf5mg
> Internet / hobby -  [e-mail]              - home [phone]
>            work  -  [e-mail]               - work [phone]
> +=========================================================================+
> +     I am Homer of Borg.... prepare to be assim... oooo... Donuts...     +
> +=========================================================================+
>
I own two of them.  For what they are, they work well at both 1k2 and 9k6
speeds.  The receiver is not going to ever see .25 uv sensitivity, but
until I hooked it up to the service monitor I didn't have any problems :)
I run mine on a network here one serving as the 2m 1k2 port radio into a
amp w/45 watts out.  Runs day in and day out w/o a problem.  73  Mike



From [e-mail] Sat Mar 30 14:18:35 1996
From: Dave Maciorowski <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: RM-8737 - was Re: 33cm band and spread spectrum tech
Date: 27 Mar 1996 13:27:38 GMT
Message-ID: <4jbfoa$[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]> <[e-mail]> <4j6rao$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]> <[e-mail]>

[e-mail] (Joe Landis - Systems & Network Mgr) wrote:
>In RM-8737, the ARRL quietly petioned the FCC last December to relax the
>restrictions on SS operations in ALL bands 144mhz(I think) and above.
>The deadline for comments expired a few weeks ago.
>
>This was discussed in detail on the vhf reflector, with many weak signal
>operators filing comments with the FCC urging this be reconsidered.
>
>Does anyone have the original text of RM-8737 to post? Even a way for a
>non-ftp site to obtain it would be fine.
[snip]

TAPR maintains a Spread Spectrum page at "http://www.tapr.org/ss/".  It includ
es
the full text of RM-8737 and many submitted comments.  They also have an e-mai
l
discussion list for Spread Spectrum.

-----
Dave Maciorowski, WA1JHK
Colorado Repeater Association, Inc.
  Serving Colorado with Voice and Data, 6-Meters to 1.2 Gig

Internet: [e-mail] or [e-mail]
CRA:      http://www.rmsd.com/hamradio/cra/




From [e-mail] Sat Mar 30 14:18:36 1996
From: [e-mail] (Joe Landis - Systems & Network Mgr)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: RM-8737 - was Re: 33cm band and spread spectrum tech
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Date: 26 Mar 96 16:00:16 EST
References: <[e-mail]> <[e-mail]> <4j6rao$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]>
Distribution: world

In RM-8737, the ARRL quietly petioned the FCC last December to relax the
restrictions on SS operations in ALL bands 144mhz(I think) and above.
The deadline for comments expired a few weeks ago.

This was discussed in detail on the vhf reflector, with many weak signal
operators filing comments with the FCC urging this be reconsidered.

Does anyone have the original text of RM-8737 to post? Even a way for a
non-ftp site to obtain it would be fine.

In general I think relaxing the rules on SS experimentation is fantastic,
and a great way to put more users on the higher bands. But on the other hand,
it needs to be carefully controlled so as not to interfere with at least
weak signal users, and probably should not take place on the bands below
903mhz.

73,
Joe - AA3GN

In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Gar
y Coffman) writes:
> In article <4j6rao$[e-mail]> [e-mail].
ohio-state.edu (Christopher K Greenhalgh) writes:
>>In article <[e-mail]>,
>>Gary Coffman <[e-mail]> wrote:
>>
>>>These cards operate *spread spectrum* which means that the signal energy
>>>is spread over a channel bandwidth of 22 MHz. This is *not* too wide a
>>>bandwidth for the 33cm band. The rules only require that the signal energy
>>>be contained within the band, and this qualifies.
>>
>>Hi Gary.
>>
>>Perhaps you can clarify...does this mean I can transmit "spread spectrum"
>>om 2 meters, and use all the band (ie; 144 t0 148)? Wouldnt this interfere
>>with...well...everybody on 2 meters?
>>
>>Maybe Im missing something here...  :(
>
> You're missing a couple of things. A) SS is not allowed on 2m (under
> the current rules), and B) by spreading the signal energy over a wide
> bandwidth, the amount of energy at any given frequency at any given time
> is miniscule, so it doesn't interfere with narrow band users, and of
> course SS users have to have their sequences synchronized in order to
> hear each other, so by syncing to a different part of a sequence, or
> to a different sequence, they avoid interfering with each other too.
>
> As a band fills with many SS signals, the only thing noticable to
> a user of the band is a gradual rise in the apparent noise floor.
> Unlike with narrow modes, there is no clash of titans as signals
> overlap each other, no hetrodyning, splattering, buckshotting,
> and desensing of each other.
>
> The thing that makes this possible is called "correlation gain".
> A SS receiver is a perfect matched filter for a SS transmission.
> It effectively sums all the signal energy back into a coherent
> despread whole while *not* correlating noise (and other signals
> on the band not synced to the same sequence are for practical
> purposes noise). So while to a narrowband user a SS signal is
> inaudible, to a user with a synchronized SS receiver it is loud
> and clear. And besides the natural and automatic load spreading
> and band sharing inherent in SS, there is also another positive
> attribute of SS, and that is good immunity to multipath. Because
> it transmits on many frequencies, it forms a frequency diversity
> system resistant to multipath.
>
> Use of SS is fully compatible with FM, repeaters, ATV, SSB, and
> CW operations. The only operators adversely impacted by SS operations
> are narrowband weak signal operators. Because of the apparent rise
> in the noise floor, very weak signals can be adversely affected.
> To avoid that, certain band segments need to be set aside for this
> use, and SS systems should use sequences that avoid spreading into
> those weak signal segments. That's pretty easy to arrange. Of course,
> weak signal operators could *also* take advantage of SS technique and
> not be as adversely affected. The inherent diversity in the technique
> would be useful to deal with Rayleigh scattering and Faraday rotation
> encountered by EME operators, for example.
>
> Gary
--
Joe Landis - Systems and Network Manager - North American Drager - Telford, PA
[e-mail]                        ..speaking only for myself, of course..


From [e-mail] Sat Mar 30 14:18:37 1996
From: [e-mail] (Russ)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Site or place to FTP packet Bulletins?
Date: Sat, 23 Mar 1996 16:50:03 GMT
Message-ID: <4j45i9$[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail]

Anyone out there know of an FTP site where I can download PBBS
bulletins? I have one place on a LL BBS but the long distance charges
are getting too high to continue. Maybe a Telenetable BBS where they
can be downloaded? Thanks for any help.

de N5EJS
Russ in Pollock, LA.

Packet:  N5EJS2WG5W.#CENLA.LA.USA.NA
E-mail:    [e-mail]




From [e-mail] Sat Mar 30 14:18:38 1996
From: [e-mail] (Bill Horne)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: tcp/ip articles sought
Date: 26 Mar 1996 18:24:53 GMT
Message-ID: <4j9cpl$[e-mail]>
Summary: Solicitation of authors
Keywords: tcp/ip tcp'er

Thanks for reading this.

The TCP'er, which is the newsletter of the NorthEast TCP Association,
welcomes articles for the April or subsequent issues.

You may write on any subject you choose, so long as it's related to
amateur radio tcp/ip use.  We welcome technical, operating, and
editorial material.

Since the TCP'er is distributed electronically, please confine
submissions to 7 bit ASCII, single spaced.

73, Bill AA1ES
acting editor

--

Bill Horne
[e-mail]




From [e-mail] Sat Mar 30 14:18:39 1996
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: TCP/IP w/ BAYCOMM and W95
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
From: [e-mail] (Randy Crowe)
Date: Wed, 27 Mar 1996 16:04:31 GMT
Summary: Any suggestions

Before I get too far involved, I was wondering if anyone has any thoughts on
using a BAYCOMM type modem and TCP/IP.  To make things even more interesting,
how about with Windows-95.  I have BAYCOMM 1.4 running now, but am interested
in getting involved with the local TCP/IP group here.  I know the best thing
is to buy a "proper" TNC, however... 'sides, what fun is it if it's easy   :-)

Any thoughts will be appreciated.

73's Randy   N8OZY

[e-mail]


From [e-mail] Sat Mar 30 14:18:40 1996
From: [e-mail]
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Ten-Tec 2m Transceiver kit @ 9600 baud?
Date: 25 Mar 1996 05:37:01 -0700
Message-ID: <4j641d$[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail]

        I am considering the new Ten-Tec 2m kit. The ad says it has a connector
for 1200b. I wonder if it can handle 9600?
        I plan to call Ten-Tec today, for more details and will post what I learn.

Jim N7TCF


From [e-mail] Sat Mar 30 14:18:41 1996
From: [e-mail] (Tom Carrubba)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: TNC Which one?  Please help`
Date: 23 Mar 1996 12:08:40 GMT
Message-ID: <4j0pk8$[e-mail]>
References: <4im92d$[e-mail]>

Ed Lang ([e-mail]) wrote:
: I have read posts here and have asked this question to others.  Now I ask yo
u!

: I will buy a TNC in the next few days and would like to make the right choic
e
: the first time.  I will want to use RTTY, Pactor, Amtor, Packet and maybe CW
.
:  I run Win95 and have a IC-736 HF rig and an Alinco DR-110 VHF rig.  I would

: like to hear from you as to your opinion of a good TNC and why you like it.

: My top three choices now are:

:       MFJ-1278B or 1278B/DSP  (no Win software that I know of)
:       KAM+ and KaWin software
:       PK-232MBX and Packratt win or PKGold


: I have not listed the TNC in any order.


: Thank you for your help!



: 73  Ed Lang
: KC4YLX
: [e-mail]
HI Ed,

I use the KAM+ and Hostmaster II program. The Hostmaster II does not
have all the features of KAGold, but it is not in the same price class.
I am very happy with my choice. I use the KAM+/HM II combo ever day
and it works fb. It is nice to be connected to the DX cluster, see
a spot on HF digital, activate that mode, work the station and never
change your display..very nice feature.

I recommend the KAM+ because of it's capability to run HF and VHF/UFH
simultaniously...the software is your choice. Good luck.
73--
============================================================================
Tom Carrubba            "To err is human, but to really foul
N. Babylon, NY          things up requires a computer......"
KA2DFO                  packet radio| [e-mail]
============================================================================


From [e-mail] Sat Mar 30 14:18:43 1996
From: [e-mail] (Tom Carrubba)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: TNC Which one?  Please help`
Date: 23 Mar 1996 12:32:05 GMT
Message-ID: <4j0r05$[e-mail]>
References: <4im92d$[e-mail]>


Hi Ed,

I recommend the KAM+. I use the KAM+ with kantronics Hostmaster II program.
The program is easy to set up and runs in all operating systems. I have
run in DOS, win3.11, and now in WIN'95. The KAGold  is also a nice program,
but a bit pricey for me budget. Good luck.

73--
============================================================================
Tom Carrubba            "To err is human, but to really foul
N. Babylon, NY          things up requires a computer......"
KA2DFO                  packet radio| [e-mail]
============================================================================


From [e-mail] Sat Mar 30 14:18:43 1996
From: [e-mail] (Paul Bobby)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: TNC Which one? Packet ONLY
Date: 23 Mar 1996 13:56:35 -0500
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]>



Some great suggestions for folks interested in all-mode, how about
just an interest in 9600bps packet only? The radio will come later.....

I know about DSP, that would be ideal, but I've no idea about the products.
--
Paul Bobby - [e-mail]
Key fingerprint =  E1 A4 41 6E 43 48 31 C6  33 EF 9E 48 1A 69 B6 4B
KeyServer ID = 0xD9CEE7C1


From [e-mail] Sat Mar 30 14:18:44 1996
From: [e-mail] (Lyndon David)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: UK contacts wanted
Date: 26 Mar 1996 17:16:04 GMT
Message-ID: <4j98ok$[e-mail]>

Dear All,

I live in Fleet Hampshire (UK). I know a lot about TCP/IP
and Unix and setting up Internet gateways (I do it for a
living). I am very interested in all aspects of radio data
comms and would like to know more. Therefore, can anyone tell
me if there is a club close to Fleet and how I contact them, or
if any knowledgable person in the M4 corridor could spare an
evening (Ill buy the beer)

Thanks

Lyndon David.


From [e-mail] Sat Mar 30 14:18:45 1996
From: [e-mail] (Don Sterner)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: What is being done to make the WWW possible on Packet Radio?
Date: 26 Mar 1996 21:50:07 GMT
Message-ID: <4j9oqf$[e-mail]>
References: <4j8lvc$[e-mail]>

In article <4j8lvc$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] says...
>
>I was just curious on what is being done right now to make
>the WWW come alive on packet radio. I thought I hear from
>someone that testing was starting over in virginia. Let me
>know if there is any sites I can visit to learn more about
>this. I will be getting into nos which is about half of what
>I need to get into TCP/IP over packet radio. Thanks Steve


Geez. I think my browser is slow at 28.8kbps, can you imagine
a 2400bps connect through 2mtr?



From [e-mail] Sat Mar 30 14:18:47 1996
From: Dave Maciorowski <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: What is being done to make the WWW possible on Packet Radio?
Date: 27 Mar 1996 13:05:47 GMT
Message-ID: <4jbefb$[e-mail]>
References: <4j8lvc$[e-mail]>
To: [e-mail],[e-mail]

[e-mail] wrote:
>I was just curious on what is being done right now to make
>the WWW come alive on packet radio. I thought I hear from
>someone that testing was starting over in virginia. Let me
>know if there is any sites I can visit to learn more about
>this. I will be getting into nos which is about half of what
>I need to get into TCP/IP over packet radio. Thanks Steve

WWW is alive and well over TCP and packet here in Colorado.  Our area is
served by two 9600 baud digital repeaters (more to come) providing 500
bytes-per-second throughput (a 14.4 modem provides 1600 bytes-per-sec).
Performance is quite acceptable as long as you turn off graphics in your
browser or stay away from sites that have much graphics.

Things will get better when we install our 56kb digital repeater :-)

See http://www.rmsd.com/hamradio/dwg.html for some background on what
we're doing here on TCP.  Dale already mentioned the southeast.  Other
areas with high TCP activity are Seattle at http://www.wetnet.ampr.org/
and Ottawa at http://hydra/carleton.ca/

-----
Dave Maciorowski, WA1JHK
Colorado Repeater Association, Inc.
  Serving Colorado with Voice and Data, 6-Meters to 1.2 Gig

Internet: [e-mail] or [e-mail]
CRA:      http://www.rmsd.com/hamradio/cra/




From [e-mail] Sat Mar 30 14:18:48 1996
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
From: [e-mail] (Sheila A. Bible)
Subject: Re: What is being done to make the WWW possible on Packet Radio?
Message-ID: <31b7cc$[e-mail]>
Date: Wed, 27 Mar 1996 20:23:33 GMT
Reply-To: [e-mail]
References: <4j8lvc$[e-mail]>

[e-mail] wrote:

>I was just curious on what is being done right now to make
>the WWW come alive on packet radio. I thought I hear from
>someone that testing was starting over in virginia. Let me
>know if there is any sites I can visit to learn more about
>this. I will be getting into nos which is about half of what
>I need to get into TCP/IP over packet radio. Thanks Steve

Steve, I wrote an article in the July 1995 QST on how to get
Linux up and running as a web server for packet using the
native ax.25 in the Linux kernel.  I used the system on 440 MHz
9600 bps packet and it worked great.  At 9600 bps you cannot
have huge graphic files.  Text flows smoothly, however.  Now if
you move to spread spectrum you'll have something.  Also you
can consider 56kbps modems.

The idea was to create a hub based system (ala' N6GN style)
and have the users buy TEKK radios and 3 ele beams to
point at the hub.  Then link the hubs using 56kbps.

My article was NOT on how to link the internet to packet.  I'd
rather we build our own stand-alone system and link into the
internet every once in a while.  This way, when the rf link is
needed, such as in a disaster and phone lines are down, the
packet side of the link is up a running.

Have fun!

Steve, N7HPR





From [e-mail] Sat Mar 30 14:18:50 1996
From: [e-mail] (Cliff Yamamoto)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: What is being done to make the WWW possible on Packet Radio?
Date: 28 Mar 1996 16:07:57 GMT
Message-ID: <4jedgt$[e-mail]>
References: <4j8lvc$[e-mail]> <4jbefb$[e-mail]>

In article <4jbefb$[e-mail]>,
Dave Maciorowski  <[e-mail]> wrote:
>[e-mail] wrote:
>>I was just curious on what is being done right now to make
>>the WWW come alive on packet radio.
>
>WWW is alive and well over TCP and packet here in Colorado.  Our area is
>served by two 9600 baud digital repeaters (more to come) providing 500
>bytes-per-second throughput (a 14.4 modem provides 1600 bytes-per-sec).

Perhaps I've been living in the past, and if so will someone please
correct me.  But I thought routing traffic *from* the Internet *to* packet
radio was a no-no mainly because of the profanity that could slip through?
Now I know there are some Internet<->Packetradio G/Ws out there and perhaps
they exist because the sysop monitors and review all outgoing messages,
but how is that going to work for httpd?

Also wouldn't the viewing of some commercial URL be considered using ham
radio for commercial uses?

Again, this is not a flame or spam.  I sold my Grapes DSY and my MM432-28
xverter a while back when I found out about all these restrictions in ham
radio packet.  If things have changed, or if I've been mis-informed all along,
I would have had 56Kbit running in Los Angeles 4 years ago.

Any enlightenment appreciated.
- Cliff Yamamoto (KA6JRG)


From [e-mail] Sat Mar 30 14:18:51 1996
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
From: [e-mail] (Gary Coffman)
Subject: Re: What is being done to make the WWW possible on Packet Radio?
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail] (Gary Coffman)
References: <4j8lvc$[e-mail]> <4jbefb$[e-mail]> <4jedgt$[e-mail]>
Date: Fri, 29 Mar 1996 20:42:19 GMT

In article <4jedgt$[e-mail]> [e-mail]
 (Cliff Yamamoto) writes:
>In article <4jbefb$[e-mail]>,
>Dave Maciorowski  <[e-mail]> wrote:
>>[e-mail] wrote:
>>>I was just curious on what is being done right now to make
>>>the WWW come alive on packet radio.
>>
>>WWW is alive and well over TCP and packet here in Colorado.  Our area is
>>served by two 9600 baud digital repeaters (more to come) providing 500
>>bytes-per-second throughput (a 14.4 modem provides 1600 bytes-per-sec).
>
>Perhaps I've been living in the past, and if so will someone please
>correct me.  But I thought routing traffic *from* the Internet *to* packet
>radio was a no-no mainly because of the profanity that could slip through?
>Now I know there are some Internet<->Packetradio G/Ws out there and perhaps
>they exist because the sysop monitors and review all outgoing messages,
>but how is that going to work for httpd?

I believe these folks are talking about an *amateur radio* www, not
necessarily involving a connection to the internet. There's no reason
we can't put up our own amateur web pages and let others browse them,
all over amateur radio with no wireline types involved at all. If connections
to the wireline are allowed, you're right that there is the potential for
problems. For example, a user accessing www.playboy.com might cause a stir
on the radio side.

>Also wouldn't the viewing of some commercial URL be considered using ham
>radio for commercial uses?

Not under current rules, as long as the amateurs have no commercial
interest in the site. See the "order a pizza over the autopatch"
rules change.

Gary
--
Gary Coffman KE4ZV          |    You make it,     | Due to provider problems
Destructive Testing Systems |    we break it.     | with previous uucp address
es
534 Shannon Way             |    Guaranteed!      | Email to [e-mail]
Lawrenceville, GA 30244     |                     |


From [e-mail] Sat Mar 30 14:18:53 1996
From: Dave Maciorowski <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: Windows, TCP/IP and packet radio?
Date: 23 Mar 1996 14:46:58 GMT
Message-ID: <4j12t2$[e-mail]>
References: <4itia8$[e-mail]>

Hi Chris,

[e-mail] (Chris Evans) wrote:
>I am interested in getting into packet radio but I do not yet know the
>capabilities of packet radio.  Would it be possible to put a machine on the
>internet via packet radio?

Sure, but it depends on the services provided by your local TCP/IP network.
Here in Colorado, there are entry points into our backbone from 2-meters
and 440 at 1200 and 9600 baud.  There are a couple of 9600 baud wide-area
coverage repeaters on 440 for easy access.  A Linux-based Internet
Firewall/Gateway allows the local guys to have access to the Internet -- the
Firewall keeps non-hams off the radio side.

>  Also, can I use 56k in all areas and get on the
>net or only in areas with a network gateway such as Grapes or the other state

>nets?

Only where there is 56K access to the local network.  Our Northeast Colorado
56kb access point is under construction.

For more info on the Northeast Colorado TCP activities, see:

                   http://www.rmsd.com/hamradio/dwg.html

-----
Dave Maciorowski, WA1JHK
Colorado Repeater Association, Inc.
  Serving Colorado with Voice and Data, 6-Meters to 1.2 Gig

Internet: [e-mail] or [e-mail]
CRA:      http://www.rmsd.com/hamradio/cra/




From [e-mail] Tue Apr 02 09:02:34 1996
From: [e-mail] (Chris Evans)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Packet radio tcp/ip in western PA
Date: Mon, 25 Mar 96 17:00:09 GMT
Message-ID: <4j5gi9$[e-mail]>

Does anyone have information on packet tcp/ip activity in Pittsburgh, or in
the Dubois, Clearfield, Punx. area?


From [e-mail] Tue Apr 02 09:02:35 1996
From: [e-mail]
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: What is being done to make the WWW possible on Packet Radio?
Date: Tue, 26 Mar 96 06:56:12
Message-ID: <4j8lvc$[e-mail]>

I was just curious on what is being done right now to make
the WWW come alive on packet radio. I thought I hear from
someone that testing was starting over in virginia. Let me
know if there is any sites I can visit to learn more about
this. I will be getting into nos which is about half of what
I need to get into TCP/IP over packet radio. Thanks Steve


From [e-mail] Tue Apr 02 09:02:36 1996
From: Will Flor <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: Packet modems with GPS
Date: 27 Mar 1996 14:50:29 GMT
Message-ID: <4jbkjl$[e-mail]>
References: <4is9g9$[e-mail]>

[e-mail] (Maarten van Damme) wrote:
>Hello,
>
>In this months CQ I noticed that many packet modem ad also contained
>the caption "Now does GPS"!
>
>As a SWL-er with an interest in RTTY and other digital modes I was
>wondering what this GPS does in the context of packet modems.
>

Here's a guess:

Here in the US many hams connect a GPS receiver directly to a TNC (not exactly
 a "packet
modem" - there's more to one than a modem - but I'm sure that's what you're re
ferring
to) and the TNC than outputs AX.25-encoded APRS packets, for automatically rel
aying your
position (read from the GPS receiver via its NMEA data output) over packet rad
io to
other stations running a computer program called APRS, which then plots your l
ocation
and the locations of others on a map.  Other information such as short message
s, weather
reports, etc. can also be transferred via APRS.  Originally, a station runing
APRS
required a computer hooked up to the GPS receiver and the TNC; many TNCs today
 have
firmware built into them so that no computer is necessary for a "stand-alone t
racker," a
station which transmits APRS packets but does not receive them or display the
map, etc.

Could this be what you're referring to?

>
>Would it be possible to retrieve your exact location by using one of
>the modems, the correct receiver (Scanner radio?) and the correct
>antenna, and probably a piece of software?
>

There is digital data being transmitted from the GPS constellation, but I doub
t that the
TNCs you're seeing advertised can demodulate it.  Remember - the transmissions
 are
direct-sequence spread spectrum - a conventional scanner wouldn't be able to d
o the job.

>
>This would be great. Please could you let me know what they mean with
>"Does GPS" and waht else I would need to create my own little GPS
>receiver.
>

Well, that's my guess.  If you *really* want to create your own little GPS rec
eiver, by
far the best way is to order an RF board assembly from a GPS manufacturer such
 as
Motorola, Rockwell, or Garmin.  They typically connect directly to the antenna
 and
output the NMEA data mentioned above.  Design your own control circuitry and u
ser
interface, and you're off!  Not a complicated project for one familiar with el
ectronics
and embedded control systems.  I'm working on one now, based on the Garmin 25
board, a
12-channel parallel receiver board - far better than the RF section of any of
their
handhelds.

>
>Maarten van Damme
>

73 de Will KB9JTT




From [e-mail] Tue Apr 02 09:02:37 1996
From: [e-mail] (Albert Sole)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Looking for FWD via e-mail
Date: Wed, 27 Mar 1996 21:32:11 GMT
Message-ID: <4jcc0v$[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail]

Hi all.
I am looking for international FWD via e-mail.
If you are interested, send me a message (not FWD yet).

73 de Albert, [e-mail]
E-mail: [e-mail]



From [e-mail] Tue Apr 02 09:02:38 1996
From: Mark Schoonover <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: Got Packet checksum code - thanks!
Date: Thu, 28 Mar 1996 08:20:09 -0800
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <4ja6jk$[e-mail]>

Dave:

        I too would be interested in where you found this
information. Would it be possible for me to ftp it from
a site??

TIA

Mark

--
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Mark Schoonover -- KA6WKE                   E-Mail: [e-mail]
San Diego, CA
   Kenwood R-1000, BC2500XLT, PK232MBX/JVFAX, 66' Indoor Dipole
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


From [e-mail] Tue Apr 02 09:02:39 1996
From: [e-mail] (Ari Husa)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: KAM Upgrades
Date: 29 Mar 1996 18:56:52 GMT
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

I have been offered an old Kantronics KAM TNC.

It does not seem to know the latest HF modes (e.g. PACTOR, G-TOR).

What are the upgrade possibilities for it?

The serial number is 100 06262 and the EPROM has a label '2.85'.

Thanks,

        Luru
--

///  AriMattiJuhaniHusaOH8NUPAri.Husa@iki.
o-o  fiTiedonkaari6D25FIN-90570OULUFinland
 o   9405020236http://www.iki.fi/ari.husa/



From [e-mail] Tue Apr 02 09:02:40 1996
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
From: [e-mail] (SARUMAN)
Subject: Re: What is being done to make the WWW possible on Packet Radio?
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]>
Date: Fri, 29 Mar 1996 22:43:26 GMT

>In article <4j9oqf$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Don Sterner)
>writes:
>>In article <4j8lvc$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] says...
>>>
>>>I was just curious on what is being done right now to make
>>>the WWW come alive on packet radio. I thought I hear from
>>>someone that testing was starting over in virginia. Let me
>>>know if there is any sites I can visit to learn more about
>>>this. I will be getting into nos which is about half of what
>>>I need to get into TCP/IP over packet radio. Thanks Steve
>>
>>Geez. I think my browser is slow at 28.8kbps, can you imagine
>>a 2400bps connect through 2mtr?

>Well that sounds more like a good argument for upgrading your
>packet setup than it does as an argument against better applications
>appearing on packet. I'm sure the web would crawl with a 1200 baud
>telco modem too, if anyone bothered to still use such antique modems
>on the phone. At 56 kb, the web flies just fine on packet.

>Gary
>--
>Gary Coffman KE4ZV          |    You make it,     | Due to provider problems
>Destructive Testing Systems |    we break it.     | with previous uucp
>addresses
>534 Shannon Way             |    Guaranteed!      | Email to [e-mail]
>Lawrenceville, GA 30244     |                     |
  This sounds GREAT! I'm just looking into Packet myself and it's lovely to se
e
there's 56k Packet Modems about to be released!


<tsb>
                               Midgard Graphics
           3D Animation and Special FX for the hobbyist videographer
                          Email: [e-mail]

--
          Drop into #amigacafe on IRC's undernet for a chat sometime

--

<tsb>

                     A man of many hobby's master of none.




From [e-mail] Tue Apr 02 09:02:41 1996
From: [e-mail](Randol D. Williams)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: West Coast Pactor info needed
Date: 29 Mar 1996 23:50:13 GMT
Message-ID: <4jhsvl$[e-mail]>

Greetings all:
I am looking for current stations operating Pactor-BBS's/packet gates
on the West Coast of North America.  If any guidance on Pactor
operations is available I will be most thankful.  Tricks of the trade,
etc.  Thanks.

Randy N7CJE


From [e-mail] Tue Apr 02 09:02:42 1996
From: [e-mail] (Axinar)
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.win95.misc,rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: AEA PCB-88, Windows95, Procomm Plus 2.11
Date: Sat, 30 Mar 1996 00:30:27 GMT
Message-ID: <4jhvb8$[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail]

I am running an AEA PCB-88 internal TNC with Windows95 and Procomm
Plus 2.11 for Windows.

Problem:  If I set my TBAUD higher than 1200 I get dropped characters.
I have checked everything I could think to check.

It works fine at higher TBAUD rates in DOS, but consistently gives me
dropped characters in Windows95 both with Procomm Plus 2.11 and
Hyperterminal.

Any ideas?

Thanks!

       John
       KB8GYS @ K8SCH.#CIN.OH.USA.NA




From [e-mail] Tue Apr 02 09:02:43 1996
From: [e-mail] (Marv Uphaus)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: Baycom & Laptops
Date: 30 Mar 1996 01:16:25 -0500
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <4imq4v$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail]

On 28 Mar 1996 15:09:45 -0500 [e-mail] (Pat Masterson) wrote:

> But, I really think its RF geting into the computer that mostly
>causes lockups. Seems logical, as its always SEND mode when it hangs.
>So, try some grounding and shielding first. And get the antenna
>far up and away from the computer.

Try running BayCom without a rig connected...  You will probably find that
it still hangs up in send mode...  Mine did...!!!  (No RF problem there...)
The BayCom L2 program DOES NOT WORK with some laptops...  Use TFPCX and
MUBAY...!!!

73, Marv, K4BVG...

-----------------------------------------------------------
Even when the experts all agree, they may well be mistaken.
                                  --Bertrand Russell
PGP PUBLIC KEY posted at pgp.mit.edu
-----------------------------------------------------------


From [e-mail] Tue Apr 02 09:02:44 1996
From: "Gary C. Carlson K0CVF" <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: 10 GHz data link
Date: 30 Mar 1996 01:41:24 GMT
Message-ID: <4ji3g4$[e-mail]>
References: <1996Mar25.101547.1532@batman>

> I am looking for construction articles/ instructions on building a
Gunnplexers.

Try  N6GN's Higher Speed Packet Page
ftp://col.hp.com/hamradio/packet/n6gn/index.html

Gary  K0CVF


From [e-mail] Tue Apr 02 09:02:44 1996
From: [e-mail] (Radiomatt)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.swap,rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: Cheated by MARTIN DURHAM WT1S
Date: 30 Mar 1996 08:19:23 -0500
Message-ID: <4jjccr$[e-mail]>
References: <4jeodg$[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail] (Radiomatt)

Barry is not disabled.
Durham is!
Barry seems to live a decent life.


From [e-mail] Tue Apr 02 09:02:46 1996
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
From: [e-mail] (John Seney)
Subject: Mac Ham Users Group
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Date: Sat, 30 Mar 1996 09:08:06 GMT


"Macnet Roster" (ver. 739) has just been updated and is now a stand-alone
application! The version number = the number of hams using Macs.

"Macnet Roster" lists:

    o CALL SIGN @ HOME PBBS
    o FULL NAME
    o ADDRESS
    o CITY, STATE, ZIP
    o INTERNET ADDRESS
    o MACS USED
    o RADIOS USED
    o SOFTWARE USED
    o PASSIONS
    o COMMENTS

of every known amateur radio operator in the world that uses a Mac computer.

You can use "Macnet Roster" to find other Mac users that you can then
communicate with directly. Compare notes on software, applications, ideas,
hints and kinks, and make new ham friends that use the same computer you do.
(You already know how cool you are - imagine accessing "the rest of us"!)

      If you'd like the latest "Macnet Roster":

    Send me a formatted disk in a self addressed and stamped disk mailer
    that is in a large envelope clearly marked "ROSTER".

Or connect to my home page via the WWW

http://www.mv.com/ipusers/wd1v

Put YOUR INFO (via EMAIL or disk using TEACH TEXT) if you'd like to be include
d
in the "Macnet Roster" or send an update to your stats to me via pkt or email
anytime.


                 John D. Seney |_|_|_|_| e-mail: [e-mail]
             144 Pepperidge Dr |_|   |_| www http://www.mv.com/ipusers/wd1v
     Manchester, NH 03103-6150 |_|_ _|_| wireless: [e-mail]
      Voice Mail: 603-533-3472 | | | | | skytel page: [e-mail]


From [e-mail] Tue Apr 02 09:02:47 1996
From: [e-mail] (Joe Landis - Systems & Network Mgr)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: RM-8737 - was Re: 33cm band and spread spectrum tech
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Date: 30 Mar 96 12:30:48 EST
References: <[e-mail]>  <[e-mail]>
Distribution: world

In article <[e-mail]>, "S. Sampson" <[e-mail]>
writes:
> Relegating anything to 900 MHz and above ensures no one will use it.  Line o
f
> sight is not much more fun than a telephone.
>
> I think Hams should not use SS.  They should be restricted to Morse Code onl
y.
> The only amplitude modulation should be AM, with no suppression of carrier
> allowed.  All FM priveledges should be revoked.
>
> There, now you can do weak signal and not be interferred with.
[rest of rants deleted]

Ahh - so much for rational discussion. Never mind Steve, you can stay on
the DC bands and braaap to your hearts content, until you can buy an appliance
to use spread spectrum to connect you PC appliance to the Internet on the
former ham band at 2.3Ghz.

Later,
Joe - AA3GN
--
Joe Landis - Systems and Network Manager - North American Drager - Telford, PA
[e-mail]                        ..speaking only for myself, of course..


From [e-mail] Tue Apr 02 09:02:48 1996
From: [e-mail] (Greg Jones)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re(2): RM-8737 - was Re: 33cm band and spread spectrum tech
Date: Sat, 30 Mar 96 16:09:02 -0600
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

The question you have to ask in regards to SS when people start to discuss
things are:

Okay, so you think it will raise the noise floor --

1. please define the noise floor,
2. how does one measure it, and
3. why or how much does it have to be rasied to stop you from doing what you
do now.

Then, how many amateurs have equipment to measure noise floor and how many
amateurs have equipment that can operate at the noise floor ?

If not, where do they operate in respect to the noise floor ?

----

In regards to sub-bands:

How long do you think it will be before someone in the amateur satellite
community is building a SS satellite ?

One is rleady being built called PANSAT and is suppose to be launched in the
next 2 years.  It operates on a center of 436.5
(http://www.sp.nps.navy.mil/pansat/pansat.html)

How long before weak signal operators want to operate SS ?

Right now.  Phil Karn has shown that with the correct encoding techniques you
can receive people when you can't hear them any longer.  Is that weak signal
enough ?   You do it right and you could probably operate EME off your really
good satellite systems!

----

The demographics of amateur radio is going to drastically change in the coming
10 years.

Should we (amateur radio) be setting rules that limit the growth of amateur
radio at a time when we need less regulations in order to change with the
times before we die as a hobby ?

Why is it that modes other than 'traditional' modes are somehow held to a
higher standard ?  This in respect to many of the digital modes and other
modes that come along.

All these items point to a classic paradigm shift.

It all comes down to what you think amateur radio is about.  Is amateur radio
about expanding the way we do things and along the way learning something and
having fun or is amateur radio about maintaining the status-quo and becoming
static.

Things to think about ?

Cheers - Greg, WD5IVD




--

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From [e-mail] Tue Apr 02 09:02:50 1996
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
From: [e-mail] (Don Ritchie K8ZGW)
Subject: Re: GE Master II query
Date: Sat, 30 Mar 1996 18:45:06 GMT
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <4j9564$[e-mail]>

As quoted from <4j9564$[e-mail]> by cgreenha@magnus
.acs.ohio-state.edu (Christopher K Greenhalgh):

+---------------
| Hello all.
|
| I just got my hands on a GE Master II UHF rig with remote console, mic,
| external speaker, and interface cable...basiclly complete.
|
| I am wanting to put it on 9600 bbs packet. Since this is a rock bound
| rig (has 8 "channels"), will it work well?
|
| Someone also told me this is a 90 watt unit...does anybody have ANY
| information on this radio...watts, amp draw, pin out on console, schematic,
| crystal source...anything at all, including what it is worth, would be
| most appreciated.
|
| Thanks much, & take care.
|
| --
| Christopher K. Greenhalgh, N8WCT
| Computer/Electronic Tech. II at The Ohio State University
| E-Mail: [e-mail] ([e-mail])
| AX.25 : n8wct@w8cqk.#cmh.oh.usa.noam

Chris; The radio is worth about $50 to $100.00 at a hamfest.

       A 15 amp 12V D.C. should handle it with no trouble in packet service.
       restuffed channel elements can be had for around $20.00 each, in exchan
ge
       for your old elements. Try 1-800-237-9654 CEH / Kirby Ent. in Cinci.
       or Hy-Q 606-283-5000 in Ky ( CInci area ) or Sentry @ 1-800-252-6780
       to name just a few, there are any number of people doing crystals.

       The best way to find tech stuff about that radio is to call your local
       G.E. dealer, there are any number of M - II 's still in service.
       Try to find a friendly ham in one of the service shops.
       ( most have at least one )

       Good luck.





--

Don Ritchie K8ZGW                       Internet: [e-mail]

                 Cleveland Hamnet BBS  [phone]


From [e-mail] Tue Apr 02 09:02:50 1996
Date: Sat, 30 Mar 1996 20:41:57 EST
From: me <[e-mail]>
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Is DFSK the same as G3RUH?

  I have recently purchased a kantronics KPC 9612, and it transmitts
  9600 baud with a DFSK method.  I was hoping to communicate with a
  MFJ that ran with the G3RUH modulation scheme.  Are these two
  compatible?

Thanks,
Aaron  KA1VOA
E-mail direct please.


From [e-mail] Tue Apr 02 09:02:51 1996
From: [e-mail] (Alan Gollom)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: RTTY on the WARC bands
Date: 31 Mar 1996 01:05:26 GMT
Message-ID: <4jklom$[e-mail]>


As one who has recently discovered the joys of RTTY, I've
been scouting the various bands for activity in that mode.
I've discovered a fair bit on 80, 40 and 20 (the open bands
these days), but next to nothing on the 30 and 17 meter
WARC bands.

Now I realize that the WARC bands probably don't appeal to
those whose primary interest is contesting.  I also guess that
there may be a reluctance by some with limited space who want
to optomize what space they have for antennas for the bands
"where the action is".

This is certainly not to say the WARC bands are dead.  Far
from it.  There is a fair bit of activity on phone, cw,
packet and the TOR modes, but as I said, little if any on
RTTY.

There's nice open space there just waiting to be filled.
You might be pleasantly surprised by the propagation on
these bands and what you can do with just 50 - 100 watts
and a simple dipole - especially now during the low end
of the solar cycle.

So how about giving it a try, RTTY enthusiasts.  Break away
from the crowds and try something new and a little different -
RTTY on the WARC bands.

Hope to see you there.

73...Alan VE3XAG




From [e-mail] Tue Apr 02 09:02:52 1996
From: Brian Webb <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: aus.radio.amateur.digital,rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc,rec.radio.amateur.equipment,sanet.radio.packet,alt.radio.digital
Subject: MFJ1270C - HTX212 Problems
Date: 31 Mar 1996 03:39:33 GMT
Message-ID: <4jkupl$iem$[e-mail]>

I own an MFJ1270C packet TNC. I've tried interfacing it with two
radios with no luck.

I connected it to an HTX202 HT and I had good receive, but no
transmit. I used an MFJ premade cable and a homebrew cable with
the same problem.

Yesterday I tried connecting this TNC to a Radio Shack HTX212
mobile radio. Same problem: Good packet reception, but couldn't
key my radio (I was doing the CALIBRA K transmit level
adjustment procedure).

I removed jumper L as suggested by MFJ and I also removed a 4.7
K ohm resistor that I had hooked in parallel with R140 in my
earlier attempt to use my HT.

Any idea what is going on here?

Regards,

Brian Webb, KD6NRP




From [e-mail] Tue Apr 02 09:02:53 1996
From: [e-mail]
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Yaesu 736
Date: Sun, 31 Mar 1996 04:33:48 GMT
Message-ID: <4jl2cv$[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail]

Has anyone used a Yaesu 736R for Packet?

KE4IKT



From [e-mail] Tue Apr 02 09:02:55 1996
From: "Walt [N3JPR]" <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Pasokon TV & Win95
Date: Sun, 31 Mar 1996 04:45:10 -0500
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

Help
I am using a Pasokon SSTV board and software both work
perfect if I exit Win95 and restart in msdos mode. I
was wondering if there was a way to either set the jumpers on
the board or config. Win in any way as to use the SSTV in
Win so I can have axcess to my Snappy and Paint programs
without exiting the program and restarting Win doing my
pix editing then restarting win.
                                Thanks for any help
                                N3JPR       Walt


From [e-mail] Tue Apr 02 09:02:56 1996
From: [e-mail] (Tobin Fricke)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Getting Started
Date: Sun, 31 Mar 1996 06:58:42 GMT
Message-ID: <4jlb4m$[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail]

Hello,
 I'm new to Amateur Radio and I'd like to get involved with Packet.  I
don't really know where to start.

What do I need?  Who can I ask?  What can I do?

 I have Linux running.

What's this ampr.org thing?

Tobin Fricke  ke6whf



From [e-mail] Tue Apr 02 09:02:57 1996
From: Charles Bolland <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.swap,rec.radio.amateur.antenna,rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc,rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.homebrew,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.policy,rec.radio.amateur.space,rec.radio.noncomm,rec.radio.scanner,rec.radio.shortwave,rec.radio.swap
Subject: Shortwave etc database program....
Date: Sun, 31 Mar 1996 10:51:57 -0800
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

Sir,

A stand alone IBM compatible Broadcasting Radio Station Database
program for Longwave, Mediumwave, or Shortwave.  4000 records...
Completely read/write and updateable...

If you'd like a copy, send your EMail address and Postal Address
which will be used to pass you more detailed information on
the full featured program....

The above program will be sent via EMAIL...

All information will be kept confidential....

Chuck

KA4PRF


From [e-mail] Tue Apr 02 09:02:58 1996
From: Dave Maciorowski <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: TC/PIP with Winsock in Win 3.1
Date: 31 Mar 1996 13:54:31 GMT
Message-ID: <4jm2qn$[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]> <[e-mail]>

"S. Sampson" <[e-mail]> wrote:
>Tony Porter wrote:
>>
>> Hi....
>>
>> I am trying to set up a TC/PIP port using Winsock.
>> I have set it up for SLIP operation but still cannot get it to talk to the
TNC.
>> I am using a PK-88 on Com 2.
>
>PK-88 doesn't understand SLIP.
>Winsock doesn't speak KISS and AX.25
>
>Can't be done until the AX.25 VxD driver gets built.  Best bet is to hook an
>old XT up via ethernet and run JNOS.

Actually, it has been done in a Packet Driver called ETHRAX25 and that works f
ine under
Win3.1 with Trumpet Winsock and a shim called Winpkt.  ETHRAX25 accepts Winsoc
k requests
and speaks KISS and AX.25.  Just works.

(Yeah, yeah, not a VxD :-)  "What the world really needs" is an NDIS 3.0 versi
on of
ETHRAX25...

-----
Dave Maciorowski, WA1JHK
Colorado Repeater Association, Inc.
  Serving Colorado with Voice and Data, 6-Meters to 1.2 Gig

Internet: [e-mail] or [e-mail]
CRA:      http://www.rmsd.com/hamradio/cra/




From [e-mail] Tue Apr 02 09:02:59 1996
From: Bill Hayhurst <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: HOKA CODE 3  -  ANYONE USE IT?
Date: 31 Mar 1996 15:21:51 GMT
Message-ID: <4jm7uf$[e-mail]>

Has anyone here used the Hoka Code 3 data decoder?

If so, how well did it work?

I've had a MT-1000 decoder for some time, but could never get
anything but RTTY and Packet out of it.

Any input would be helpful.

Bill Hayhurts   [e-mail]



From [e-mail] Tue Apr 02 09:03:01 1996
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
From: [e-mail] (Gary Coffman)
Subject: Re: Interested in Packet in NY
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail] (Gary Coffman)
Date: Sun, 31 Mar 1996 19:59:32 GMT

In article  [e-mail] (SARUMAN) writes:
>Hi I've been bitten by the bug of packet radio and before getting too crazy
>over it would like to request some info. I'm currently NOT licenced tho have
>purchased the study materials and begun reading tho.
>
>Anyway what I'd like to know is, does there exist any Gateways to the Interne
t
>via Packet in the Brooklyn New York area or any of the 5 boro's?
>Or is packet more like local BBS's?

I can't help with specific gateway locations. Some exist, but much of
packet messaging still revolves around the paradigm of the BBS.

>What is the average Baud rate? I've seen folks mention 56k but it didn't seem
>to be the norm tho I'd be happy with 14.4k or 28.8k(I use 28.8k modem via lan
d
>line now).

Amateur 56 kb RF modems have existed for 9 years now, but they still
aren't in wide use. Partially that's because up until now they have
only been available as kits, but PacComm now has a W&T unit. Partially
it has been because people have not understood that the modem is also
the radio, and thus isn't as costly as it appears, though a transverter
is needed and those aren't free. And partially because of the chicken
and egg problem. It does little good for you to buy a 56 kb system if
no one else in your area has one. A way around this problem is to
participate in group purchases with other local amateurs.

The step down from 56 kb is a large one in amateur packet. The
next level is 9600 baud. That also has been held back because
the 9600 baud systems aren't plug and play with most voice grade
radios, and many amateurs have been unwilling to do the internal
modifications to their radios to allow 9600 baud to work through
them, or in some cases have radios which are unsuitable for such
modifications.

So the most common amateur packet radio baud remains 1200, and
that's to say the least dismal. And it is worse than it may at
first appear because packet is generally half-duplex, and often
needs relay hops to reach its intended destination. Half-duplex
operation of course increases interactive latency a *lot*, and
each relay hop cuts the effective baud in half due to the store
and forward nature of packet relay. So latency becomes *huge*
and performance can't be compared to operation over telco, even
at the same baud.

You're not going to do much websurfing, unless you have the
patience of Job, when response times to mouse clicks are most
convienently measured in *minutes*. For text only use, like
usenet, 9600 is tolerable, but for websurfing nothing less
than 56 kb is usable. It has a "feel" most similar to using a
28.8 kb modem on a telco line (assuming the number of intervening
relay hops are few). But there's that chicken and egg problem.

>Another thing that perplexes me....Why do the TNC's need RAM for mail boxes?
>Don't they simply route the incoming mail to the connected Computer? Or does
>the RAM act as a Buffer/Spool?

The internal mailbox allows the TNC to receive and hold messages for you
when your computer is turned off, or being used for other tasks. Many
packet operators leave their TNC and radio on all the time, but don't
leave their computer on all the time. Those that do, however, such as
Linux users, or those using one of the flavors of NOS (a TCP/IP program
for DOS machines), don't need or want the mailbox function in the TNC,
and generally leave it disabled, operating the TNC in the so-called
KISS mode instead.

>Also if you could recommend a Basic inexpensive Radio for Packet use that'd
>help. Recomendation of a High Speed TNC would be nice as well.
>I'd like to keep the outlay of funds to under $400-$500 if possible and
>not averse to used equipment.

For around $500, you can put together a 56 kb station. Remember in this
case that the modem *is* also the radio, though a transverter is also
required. The modem is still available in kit form from GRAPES for $250,
and transverters are available used for around $160 (MMT432S, 10 watt),
or as kits from places like Down East Microwave for $155 (though an
external amp may be desired here). You also need a data pump, and
the Ottawa PI2 card is $125. So you're looking at about $535 plus
antenna and miscellaneous bits.

Or you can put together a 9600 baud station for about $500 using
a $200 TNC/9600 baud modem and a 2m voice grade radio for around
$300-$350 (though if low power and 70cm operation are sufficient,
a Tekk KS-900 2 watt data radio can be substituted at about
$140).

Or you can put together a 1200 baud station for about $400 with
a $125 TNC/1200 baud modem and a $300-$350 2m radio (though you
can use a commercial surplus radio for as little as $50 plus
crystals and conversion costs).

As you can see, the cost differential of the various options is
not large, but the performance differences are huge. The only
reason 1200 baud hangs around is that amateurs often ignore the
cost of the radio in their calculations of 1200 baud setups since
they already have a 2m voice radio that can be used, and they
consider that "free". When the cost of the complete station is
totalled, however, the nearly 47 times improvement in throughput
of 56 kb makes it by far the cheapest per bit setup.

>Lastly I know my current Internet provider connects to the Net via Satellite
>is this Doable with a Technician's Licence?

If you mean can you access the same satellite as your ISP with an amateur
license, the answer is no. That's commercial common carrier service, not
amateur radio service. But if you mean can you use *amateur radio* satellites
with packet, the answer is a definite yes. However, these satellites are
essentially orbiting BBS systems, not internet access points.

>As you may have noticed I'm pretty GREEN so any help would be appreciated.
>So far I've been reading CQ and Gordon West's No Code Technician study book.

Amateur radio has a lot to offer, but it isn't a substitute for an ISP,
at least not yet. If you want to *use* networking, amateur radio offers
limited functionality at present, but if you want to learn about, experiment
with, and build digital hardware, software, and wireless networks, then
amateur radio offers opportunities available nowhere else.

Gary
--
Gary Coffman KE4ZV          |    You make it,     | Due to provider problems
Destructive Testing Systems |    we break it.     | with previous uucp address
es
534 Shannon Way             |    Guaranteed!      | Email to [e-mail]
Lawrenceville, GA 30244     |                     |


From [e-mail] Tue Apr 02 09:03:02 1996
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Message-ID: <221@onli_info.win.net>
Reply-To: russell_hibma@onli_info.win.net (RUSSELL HIBMA)
From: russell_hibma@onli_info.win.net (RUSSELL HIBMA)
Date: Sun, 31 Mar 1996 21:28:00 GMT
Subject: KPC-3

I'm looking for the Packet software that comes with this TNC.
I picked it up at a hamfest but the owner forgot the software
for it.
Any Help?
de KA9MRU
---
 * PowerAccess 1.08 Braniff ran OS/2.




From [e-mail] Tue Apr 02 09:03:03 1996
From: [e-mail] (Robert J. Carpenter)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Need for Differential GPS
Date: 31 Mar 96 22:21:21 GMT
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.91.960331171215.25199A-100000@DGS>


Tom Clark (W3IWI) just posted a good answer describing methods for
obtaining high accuracy in GPS using DGPS (Differential GPS).  These
corrections are largely needed because of Selective Availability (SA)
introduced into the "public" part of GPS to intentionally degrade its
accuracy.

However, Tom didn't mention an article in his Saturday's Washington Post.
There was a front-page article reporting that the White House has decreed
that SA **will** go away.  This will mean an accuracy on the order of
10-30 meters for everyone, without DGS.  You'll still need DGPS to do
better.  The bad part is that they are talking about a phase-out over 4 to
10 YEARS.

Tom, please get your politics working on shortening the time, please,
please!!!!

        73 de Bob  w3otc



From [e-mail] Tue Apr 02 09:03:04 1996
From: [e-mail] (Ed Mitchell)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc,rec.radio.amateur.policy,rec.radio.amateur.homebrew,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.scanner,rec.radio.shortwave,sci.electronics,rec.radio.pirates
Subject: April edition, Ham Radio Online is now available
Date: 31 Mar 1996 23:33:52 GMT
Message-ID: <4jn4p0$[e-mail]>

The April edition of Ham Radio Online magazine is now available at
http://www.accessone.com/~vbook
or
http://www.accessone.com/~vbook/hronline.htm

This month features original stories on packet radio path quality, spread
spectrum
communications, more information on making your own solar observations, gettin
g
started in shortwave listening and an amazing list of hidden or not so hidden
renditions of Morse code in popular music. We will be adding more stories over
the coming weeks - this is a dynamic magazine with upates appearing as often
as daily.

As usual, Ham Radio Online also features Amateur radio newsletters from around
the world, real-time ionospheric propagation reports, real-time aurora
conditions,
real-time MUF calculations, real-time earthquake and severe weather reports an
d
so much more.

Stop and by and enjoy. We are free - and free of ads too - your stories are
always
welcome at  Ham Radio Online.

Thanks and 73,
Ed and Kim Mitchell,
KF7VY and N7VPL


------------------------
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Visit Ham Radio Online, it's free! at
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From [e-mail] Tue Apr 02 09:03:06 1996
From: [e-mail](Jean-Pierre Heulin )
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: TC/PIP with Winsock in Win 3.1
Date: 31 Mar 1996 23:37:11 GMT
Message-ID: <4jn4v7$[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]>

In <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Tony
Porter) writes:
>
>Hi....
>
>I am trying to set up a TC/PIP port using Winsock.
>I have set it up for SLIP operation but still cannot get it to talk to
the TNC.
>I am using a PK-88 on Com 2.
>I was also looking at trying it on a Baycom modem or my Type 2 DRSI,
by interfacing with BPQ, but have been unable
>to do this.
>The idea behind it is that I can set up and run a TC/PIP gateway, with
TC/PIP on one of the ports, while leaving the
>others free for AX25 with FBBwin 7.
>
>I would appreciate any response from anyone who has acheived this, and
can shed some light on how to go about it.
>
>Thanks
>Tony
>
>=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
>Tony Porter
>Sheffield, England
>
>E-Mail:- [e-mail]
>AX25:-  G0OQD @ GB7WRG.#19.GBR.EU
>AMPR:-  [e-mail]
>=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
>
>
>

You have to use 2 drivers to get TCP/IP under windows 3.1 to talk to
your TNC. You must first load ETHRAX25, this will convert ethernet
frames into AX25 and vice-versa. You also need the WINPKT driver
loaded.
You can then run Trumpet Winsock and use telnet, ftp, ping programs. I
use Win95 here now but I used 3.1 and trumpet Winsock for about a year
before and it worked fine. You can get ETHRAX25 from ftp at UCSD in the
HAMRADIO\PACKET\TCPIP\MISC directory.

Good luck and 73 de Jean-Pierre kc6jet



From [e-mail] Tue Apr 02 09:03:08 1996
From: [e-mail] (Jim Rospopo)
Newsgroups: aus.radio.amateur.digital,rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc,rec.radio.amateur.equipment,sanet.radio.packet,alt.radio.digital
Subject: Re: MFJ1270C - HTX212 Problems
Date: Sun, 31 Mar 1996 23:42:04 GMT
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <4jkupl$iem$[e-mail]>

On 31 Mar 1996 03:39:33 GMT, Brian Webb <[e-mail]>
wrote:

>I own an MFJ1270C packet TNC. I've tried interfacing it with two
>radios with no luck.
>
>I connected it to an HTX202 HT and I had good receive, but no
>transmit. I used an MFJ premade cable and a homebrew cable with
>the same problem.
>
>Yesterday I tried connecting this TNC to a Radio Shack HTX212
>mobile radio. Same problem: Good packet reception, but couldn't
>key my radio (I was doing the CALIBRA K transmit level
>adjustment procedure).
>
>I removed jumper L as suggested by MFJ and I also removed a 4.7
>K ohm resistor that I had hooked in parallel with R140 in my
>earlier attempt to use my HT.
>
>Any idea what is going on here?
>
>Regards,
>
>Brian Webb, KD6NRP
>
>
Brian,

I have a 1270c connected to a HTX 212 and everything is working fine.
The cable that I got from MFJ was wired wrong on one pin so as soon as
I fixed that everything was fine.  I would suggest that you look
closely at the radio manuals and trace the wires to the correct
connections.  Best way to do this is with a VOM using the continuity
tester.

Jim   KE4CON