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From Unknown Sun Dec 03 12:51:11 1995
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From: Dave Hockaday <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: How to clean up the ham bands?
Date: 1 Dec 1995 01:07:50 GMT
Organization: News & Observer Public Access
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>
>YAAAA, I think you are a ******* sissie, with vergin ears.
>aa7up

And I think language like that is uncalled for on the net. Perhaps you're
one of the types that helps trash our bands now...



From Unknown Sun Dec 03 12:51:12 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Robert Wedlock)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: High speed CW with a KAM
Date: 1 Dec 1995 03:21:34 GMT
Organization: Delphi Internet Services Corporation
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In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Bill Turner) writes:
> Would anyone like to try some really high speed CW (machine sent and received
> of course)?  My KAM manual says it will send and receive up to 99 words per

I've been wanting to try this too! My pk232 can go 99 wpm as well. I live in
Casper, Wyoming and my best band to Washington is 20 meters. Anytime on
wednesday or thursday would be fine! Let me know ...




From Unknown Sun Dec 03 12:51:13 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Penn McClatchey)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Cable Routing to Outside
Summary: plexiglas
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Date: 1 Dec 95 03:45:31 GMT
References: <49kdm1$[e-mail]>
Organization: SAF Customer Service, Atlanta GA
Lines: 16

In article <49kdm1$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] writes:
> Does anyone have any good ideas about getting cables from the
> inside to the outside?  I would like to hear from anyone that

I bought a piece of plexiglas to fit the window opening.  I
drilled holes in the plexiglas and put it where the
screen goes.  The window stays open and the plexiglass keeps the
cold air out.  When we sell this house, I'll just replace the
screen and keep the plexiglas for the next house.
Works great.


--
Penn M. McClatchey (Southern Aluminum Finishing Co, Atlanta, GA, USA)
Architectural Aluminum. Custom Fabrication. Paint, Powder Coating, Anodizing.
[e-mail]  uunet!safn2!pmm  Am Radio WB4DPT  Voice: 404-355-1560,ext231


From Unknown Sun Dec 03 12:51:13 1995
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From: [e-mail]
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Contesting
Date: 1 Dec 1995 03:46:26 GMT
Organization: SOCKET Internet Services INN site
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In <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (big kid) writes:
>I just finished the DX CW contest this weekend.  I worked it with 100 watts
>and a multi band dipole and had a ball.  Is this the right place to start a
>thread on contsting, or is there a more appropriate news group for that?

The best thing for you to do if you want to talk about contesting without
getting flamed by such dimbulbs as Burt Fisher is to subscribe to the contest
mailing list.  Send a message to [e-mail], with no title
and the single word SUBSCRIBE in the text.  Volume on this list averages
about 20 messages per day unless there has just been a major contest,
in which case there may be 50 per day or more as people post their scores
and comments.

GL and 73 - Alan Braun NS0B


From Unknown Sun Dec 03 12:51:14 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Ed Mitchell)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.policy
Subject: Exclusive story-Hams Help Out in Western WA Flooding
Date: 1 Dec 1995 04:21:25 GMT
Organization: Virtual Publishing Co.
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Available online, for free, at Ham Radio Online virtual magazine at
http://www.accessone.com/~vbook/hronline.htm

Story features first hand accounts, photos, graphs and charts.

Have fun and enjoy,
Ed, KF7VY



From Unknown Sun Dec 03 12:51:15 1995
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From: Gareth Crispell <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Contesting
Date: 1 Dec 1995 04:26:14 GMT
Organization: Craigville Conference Center
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[e-mail] (Dave Hunt) wrote:
>An activity need not be athletic to be called a "sport"; consider fishing
>or stock car racing.  Would you be satisfied if t-hunters ran with their
>locators in stead of driving?  Some do.

I think you are wrong in using the examples you chose. Anyone who has
spent 7 to 9 hours in a fighting chair landing a near record Marlin would
know this is very physical.After 5 hours my hands began to bleed from
worn flesh. Racing is totally exhausting. T-hunting is difficult terrain
is brutal. I have done all three.

N1MSV


--






                 ..as for the mysteries of the
                Universe...they knew them not...


  And in the time of their visitation they shall shine, and run
  to and fro like sparks among the stubble.

  gareth     e-mail    [e-mail]




From Unknown Sun Dec 03 12:51:16 1995
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From: Gareth Crispell <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Contesting
Date: 1 Dec 1995 04:33:47 GMT
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>
>>Ham radio and sports do not in any way go together.
>
>   Sports Illustrated thought otherwise!

SI is in the magazine business to make as much money as possible.(nothing
wrong with that) Point being, they want as wide a reader base as
possible. They would call mother in law kissing a sport if they
 thought it would sell more mags!!

N1MSV


--






                 ..as for the mysteries of the
                Universe...they knew them not...


  And in the time of their visitation they shall shine, and run
  to and fro like sparks among the stubble.

  gareth     e-mail    [e-mail]




From Unknown Sun Dec 03 12:51:17 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Robert Casey)
Subject: Re: Can a Green Card holder be a ham?
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services (408-241-9760 login: guest)
References: <49kn6d$[e-mail]>
Date: Fri, 1 Dec 1995 04:57:30 GMT
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In article <49kn6d$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (David S. Curry KG2EB) writes:
>       Can an English Citizen with a Green Card in the US become a ham?
>Tnx in advance
>73
>David KG2EB
>

I knew someone back at the phone company (AT&T Bell Labs) who was from India
and got an American ham license while he was at college here.  So it looks like
the answer is YES.


From Unknown Sun Dec 03 12:51:18 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Michael)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.equipment
Subject: Re: HELP:  FT-23r Display Blinking!
Date: 1 Dec 1995 07:17:05 GMT
Organization: United States Internet, Inc.
Lines: 12
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <49iinv$[e-mail]>
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In article <49iinv$[e-mail]>, [e-mail]
(Michael Alan Gauland) wrote:

> My Yaesu FT-23R HT has taken up the rather distressing habbit of
> continuously flashing everything on the display.  It no longer
> seems to transmit, though receive works fine on whatever repeater
> it was last tuned in to.
>
> Any ideas on how to best discourage this behavior?

Generally, a flashing display means the PLL is unlocked. Your radio needs
service.


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From: [e-mail] (Hank Riley)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Colorado Balloon Launch Delay to December 9
Date: 1 Dec 1995 07:42:10 GMT
Organization: Youngstown State/Youngstown Free-Net
Lines: 38
Message-ID: <49mbki$[e-mail]>
NNTP-Posting-Host: yfn2.ysu.edu


There has been a one week launch delay because of a technical glitch
involving the complex payload.

The date has been changed from Dec. 2 to 9, with a scrub date
of Dec. 10.

One more complete bulletin will be issued next week noting a
minor frequency change on one telemetry channel.
-----------------------------------------------------------

         EOSS-25:  CENTRAL COLORADO REPEATER/ATV BALLOON LAUNCH


     Region:            Central Colorado

     Date/Time:         December 9 / 8:00 AM MST, 15:00 UTC
     Scrub Date:        December 10

     Location:          Colorado Springs, US AIr Force Academy

     HF Net:            7.235 Mhz SSB

For additional launch data and general Edge of Space Sciences (EOSS)
information:

http://www.usa.net/~rickvg/eoss.htm
maintained by Rick von Glahn
[e-mail]

-----------------------------------------------------------
posted by Hank Riley, N1LTV

Please email news of upcoming balloon launches and post-flight
reports for distribution on the Net.

[e-mail]
[e-mail]


From Unknown Sun Dec 03 12:51:20 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Karl Beckman)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: What radars on 900 MHz ?
Date: Fri, 01 Dec 1995 10:48:05 -0500
Organization: Mot RNSG - Private Data
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NNTP-Posting-Host: 145.39.1.10

In article <49k0rv$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Bob Wilkins
n6fri) wrote:

> You are probably seeing a Part 15 data network. They are operating at one
> watt using spread spectrum. Many of these data transmitters are on pole
> tops or buildings. You might be experiancing the primary user of our 902
> band, the automatic vehicle locating service. Pacific Teletrac operates
> high power wide band digital data from multiple mtn tops to track fleets
> of vehicles all over southern California.
>
> Good luck trying to run an AM video system in all that noise! You might
> want to operate on 1240+ MHz or digitize your video on 902.
>
> For some information on 902 MHz Part 15 data networks you might try browsing
>
> http://www.metricom.com/
>
> http://www.qualcom.com/
>
> Bob
> --
>      Bob Wilkins                     home    [e-mail]
>  Berkeley, California                work    [e-mail]
>      94712-2354                      play    n6fri@n6eeg.#nocal.ca.usa.noam
>
>
Bob did not mention that recent revisions to the FCC Rules specifically
put these unlicensed spread-spectrum data systems at the BOTTOM of the
list of secondary users, with Amateur Radio only one step up.  For details
read the FCC Report DC 95-21 dated Feb 6, 1995 (67 pgs) and the related
Private Radio Docket 93-61.

You might want to send a certified letter to San Diego Gas & Electric
andthe closest remaining FCC Field Enforcement Office advising them that
you believe that SDGE is causing destructive interference to a licensed
Part 97 radio system, with copies to FCC Gettysburg and ARRL HQ.  All
unlicensed users are required to cease operation upon notification by a
Commission offical if they cause interference to any LICENSED user
(primary or secondary, including Amateur) of the 902-928 MHz band.
--
Karl Beckman, P.E.                <      If our English language is so   >
Motorola Pvt Data Systems         <   precise, why do you drive on the   >
Schaumburg, IL  /  Parma, OH      <   parkway and park on the driveway?  >
[phone] / [phone]
**  Schaumburg area code changes from 708 to 847 on January 20, 1996!   **
**  Opinions expressed here do not represent the views of Motorola Inc. **
--
By sending unsolicited commercially-oriented e-mail to this address, the
sender agrees to pay a $100 fee to the recipient for proofreading services.
--
Amateur radio WA8NVW                        NavyMARS NNN0VBH @ NOGBN.NOASI


From Unknown Sun Dec 03 12:51:21 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Mistie Mullarkey)
Subject: Re: Connecting computers over radio.
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Sender: [e-mail] (Mistie Mullarkey)
Organization: The National Capital FreeNet, Ottawa, Ontario, Canada
Date: Fri, 1 Dec 1995 11:44:25 GMT
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Dan Axelrod wrote:

>I live in the US, and in fact I want to transmit from the east cost of New

>Jersey to Long Island NY.



>I thought that maybe SW radio would be good, since it's a. not regulated,

>and b. can bend over the horizon.



>Does anyone know how possible, leagal and/or expencive is this project?



   You can try HF, but with a speed of 300baud on HF what's the use?

--





From Unknown Sun Dec 03 12:51:22 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Carl Steckler)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: NO CODE 10 METER!!
Date: 1 Dec 1995 13:34:20 GMT
Organization: Cornell University
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>: : Think about what having 10 meter priveleges would do for no-code hams!
>
>uh, don't have to think about it. when my next door neighbor pulls his
>truck into the driveway i can hear his CB through my sterio speakers.
>
>--
>kyle cassidy
>office of academic computing -- rowan college of new jersey
>http://www2.rowan.edu/kyle/home.html
>
Kyle, I really resent your opinion that no code hams are the same as CB'rs
Maybe you should just stick to code, that way I wouldn't care what you say.

--
Carl (ex-jarhead) Semper Fi
KB2SGX
"For those who fought for it, freedom has a flavor the
protected will never know"
Unknown Marine, Khe Sahn, Viet Nam



From Unknown Sun Dec 03 12:51:23 1995
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From: [e-mail] (bandyopadhyay,asismoy)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Can a Green Card holder be a ham?
Date: 1 Dec 1995 14:09:18 -0500
Organization: Bell Communications Research (Bellcore)
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NNTP-Posting-Host: hera.cc.bellcore.com

In article <49lu9b$[e-mail]>,
Bob Baker  <[e-mail]> wrote:
>My understanding is that to hold a US license you must be a US citizen.
>
>
>Bob
>WA6MCT
>

Not true.

You can have a US licence if,-

1. Your are in US legally

2. You are not a representative of a foreign government.

3. You have a US maling address.

>
>[e-mail] (David S. Curry KG2EB) wrote:
>>      Can an English Citizen with a Green Card in the US become a ham?
>>Tnx in advance
>>73
>>David KG2EB
>>
>
>

You can have a reciprocal licence instead if you have a valid
home country call.


From Unknown Sun Dec 03 12:51:24 1995
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From: <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: 3.88 mhz and Steve wa2nhz
Date: 1 Dec 1995 14:24:55 GMT
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 Stephan Rashkin <[e-mail]> writes:
>When a person works hard for something and succeeds, its
>value is more important to them. I've operated on 75 for years
>and most of the problems come from those call-less or
>ball-less wonders that don't have hf privileges, and those
>that just make them up or use OPC. Two of them were recently
>caught in Massachusetts and one in Virginia..
>
>Hundreds of thousands of people have successfully passed their
>code tests and have upgraded to whatever they desired..I am
>not necessarily against another class of license allowing
>limited operation on hf, but these whining little cry babies
>that want to discount all the work and time hundreds of thousands
>have gone through and make it mean nothing sends a message of
>"screw it why bother to work for anything, it'll be free soon"
>and I'm not just limiting it to radio--..
>
>It just cracks me up to see a few whining babies slobbering all
>over their keyboards...My impression of them is laziness
>and potential career welfare recipients..who cares whether you
>like cw..who cares whether you ever use it again.  Yeah it's
>a primitive form of communication, it's kinda like learning
>how to build a fire in the scouts without matches, or even
>having to memorize the little scouts oath. I think of cw as just
>a little initiation that may someday come in handy. It separates
>the requirement-less CB level from the amateur radio level.
>For all the man-hour whining I have heard out of Drew, he probably
>would have been able to decode Amtor in his head by now..
>Take a damn vitamin E or something..
>Again I reiterate, especially to Drew:
>
>Waaaaa!  Waaaaa!  Waaaa!
>
>What an EXTRA Class Cry Baby
>
>
>Steve, Wa2nhz
>
>

   Well written Steve! My hat's off to you! I, too have no problem with a
 limited,  codeless HF license, but could not have worded my sentiments
better than you. Keep up the good work!

73 de WA3RVT, Steve Eklund



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Subject: Re: Connecting computers over radio.
Date: Fri, 1 Dec 1995 15:03:48 +0100
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On 1 Dec 1995, Dan Axelrod wrote:

> Hello all.
>
> I am interested in an interesting idea that I have for my computer:
>
> I want to connect the computer to another one over the radio waves.
> I need it to be running 24 hrs a day 7 days a week. It has to broadcast
> over about a 60 mile range. And have a speed of about a 28.8 modem.
>
> Preferably I would want a full-duplex connection just hooked up to
> modems on both sides. But other similar ideas I want to consider for
> myself too.
>
> I live in the US, and in fact I want to transmit from the east cost of New
> Jersey to Long Island NY.
>
> I thought that maybe SW radio would be good, since it's a. not regulated,
> and b. can bend over the horizon.

SW radio is regulated CB is not. usually CB does not bend over the horizon.
To use SW radio you need an amateur licence...

>
> Does anyone know how possible, leagal and/or expencive is this project?
>
possible, yes. If you've got the licence it's even legal, but still then not
appiciated by other ham's. If you are using CB you'll find the chanels to small
(close together) to use 28k8, common practice on CB is 1k2 or 2k4. This
is due to the bandwith required to transmit 28k8 over loger distances
while leaving some s/n ratio at the receiving end.
1k2 is not expencive, a few bugs for the modem is all you need to spend.
If you're willing to learn for the licence, the ham-radio packet-network
might come close to your needs.

If you want to know more about hams just ask an american ham. Maybe you
should reed rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc for a while.

cu Remco.



From Unknown Sun Dec 03 12:51:27 1995
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From: [e-mail] (n4jvp)
Subject: Re: rec.radio.amateur.burt_fisher?
Message-ID: <c17cb$[e-mail]>
Date: Fri, 01 Dec 1995 15:14:55 GMT
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Dear Mr Fisher
        I must apologize for stating that you authored the post entitled
"Gutless Assholes". After receiving your E-mail I reviewed the header
to that post. I found the header to be incomplete and therefore
invalid. In addition the path shows that it originated from a server
at the University of California at San Diego and not from either
ccsnet.com or alterdial.uu.net.
        As far as having nothing better to do in my life than seeing what you
are doing, you are gravely mistaken. I downloaded the latest headers
for the newsgroup rec.radio.amateur.misc to see what was happening in
the newsgroup. With my post I was attempting to make a point to all
subscribers of the newsgroup that the primary topic of the newgroup is
amateur radio and not to comment continually on your inane posts. When
nine percent of the posts involve one individual in either the subject
line or as the author something is askew!
        Your posts generate threads with drivel that rivals yours, in my
opinion. Generally these threads contain nothing constructive to say
concerning the hobby. A great deal of the time these threads do not
have the key words "Burt" or "K1OIK" in the subject line so I can only
hazard a guess as to what percentage of posts relate to you and your
posts.
        As you have stated more than once ignoring you will not make you go
away. Not ignoring you will cause many others to go away. You my
friend seem to have little better to do than sit at your keyboard and
make meaningless post after post after post. Ah once again I am
mistaken, you also sit there and read all the responses your posts
generate. How many hours a week do you devote to this aspect of your
life? Is this any better or any worse than contesting or passing
traffic?
        I will continue to visit the newsgroup from time to time in hopes of
finding threads truly relevent to the hobby but I fear relevency will
be on the decline as long as you and your banal topics seem to
dominate.
        My reference to your wife as a "trophy wife" is based upon your
continual characterization of the lady. Whenever you mention your wife
you seem to mention her physical attributes as if she is of more value
to you for the image she projects than for the person she is. I mean
no offense to Mrs Fisher.
        Please adhere to the copyright notice that closes the post. I do not
wish to be quoted out of context so that I might appear to sanction
you or your pedestrian posts.
        In closing Mr Fisher let me quote the author Ilka Chase. "When he said
we were trying to make a fool of him, I could only murmur that the
Creator had beat us to it."

sincerely
Fritz


copyright @ 1995 by A.G. von Luternow
No part of this text may be reproduced without written consent of the
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From: [e-mail] (Alan Burgstahler)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Can a Green Card holder be a ham?
Date: Fri, 01 Dec 1995 15:38:39 GMT
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Bob Baker <[e-mail]> wrote:
>>      Can an English Citizen with a Green Card in the US become a ham?
>My understanding is that to hold a US license you must be a US citizen.

Nonsense!  My wife is a ham and she is not a citizen of the US.  She
does have a green card as a permanent resident.  She's a citizen of
Canada; was born in Belgium.

Alan - WA6AWD - Kent, WA, USA     [e-mail]



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SB PROP @ ARL $ARLP050
ARLP050 Propagation de KT7H

ZCZC AP19
QST de W1AW
Propagation Forecast Bulletin 50  ARLP050
From Tad Cook, KT7H
Seattle, WA  December 1, 1995
To all radio amateurs

SB PROP ARL ARLP050
ARLP050 Propagation de KT7H

Solar activity was down just slightly from last week, still
listlessly drifting around the low part of the solar cycle.
Geomagnetic conditions have been stable, except for November 27 and
29, when they were somewhat active.  The stormiest period was around
1200z on the 27th when the K index reached six, quite a high value.

Expect conditions to stay somewhat unsettled through December 5, and
then become very stable and quiet until just before Christmas.
Unfortunately the solar flux should remain low, with values just
above 70.

With low solar and geomagnetic activity, as well as the extended
night in the northern hemisphere, December should be a good month to
explore propagation on 80 and 160 meters.

There will be just two more propagation bulletins for this year, as
the author will be vacationing in Brazil in the state of Bajia after
mid month.

Sunspot Numbers for November 23 through 29 were 12, 0, 0, 0, 11, 14
and 18, with a mean of 7.9.  10.7 cm flux was 72.7, 72.2, 71.8,
72.7, 70.8, 73 and 72.3, with a mean of 72.2.

The path projection for this week is from Seattle and Dallas to
Brazil.

From Seattle, 80 meters should be open from 0030 to 0930z, 40 meters
from 2330 to 1000, and 30 meters from 2230 to 0030.  Check 20 meters
from 1900 to 2230 and 17 meters from 1800 to 2100.  15 meters may be
open some days from 1800 to 2100.

From Dallas check 80 meters from 2330 to 0930z, 40 meters from 2230
to 1000 and 30 meters from 2130 to 0000.  20 meters looks good from
1500 to 2230, 17 meters from 1530 to 2100 and 15 meters from 1630 to
1930.
NNNN
/EX


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Date: 01 Dec 1995 17:26:00 +0200
From: [e-mail] (Wolf Harranth)
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QSL COLLECTION is the largest collection/exhibition/documentation and
research center of its kind worldwide, with more than 800.000 QSLs on
file. Yet there are still many cards missing in our reference file. Here
is a list of some US counties still missing. If you happen to have a card
to spare from some of these counties: please pass it/them on to QSL
COLLECTION, POB 2, A-1112 Vienna, Austria-Europe.
- For more information on our activities see QST March 95, or post me a
msg.

Tnx, 73
Wolf OE1WHC ([e-mail])

Alabama - AL
-BIBB -BULLOCK -BUTLER -CHILTON -CHOCTAW -CLARKE -CLEBURNE -CONECUH
-COOSA -CRENSHAW -FRANKLIN GENEVA -HALE -HENRY -LOWNDES -MACON
-MARENGO -MARION -MONROE -PERRY -PIKE -RANDOLPH -ST CLAIR -SUMTER
TALLAPOOSA -WASHINGTON -WILCOX -WINSTON

Arkansas - AR
ARKANSAS -ASHLEY -CALHOUN -CHICOT -CLARK -CLAY -CLEVELAND -CONWAY
-CROSS -DALLAS -DESHA -DREW -FRANKLIN -GRANT  -HEMPSTEAD -HOWARD
-IZARD -JACKSON -LAFAYETTE -LEE -LINCOLN -LITTLE RIVER -MADISON
-MARION -MISSISSIPPI -MONROE -MONTGOMERY -OUACHITA -PERRY -PHILLIPS
-PIKE -RANDOLPH -SEVIER -STONE -VAN BUREN -WOODRUFF -YELL

Arizona - AZ  GREENLEE -LA PAZ

California - CA  ALPINE -COLUSA -LASSEN -SIERRA

Colorado - CO
ARCHULETA -BACA -BENT -CHEYENNE -CLEAR CREEK -CONEJOS -COSTILLA
-CROWLEY -CUSTER --DOLORES -EAGLE GILPIN -GRAND -HINSDALE -JACKSON
-KIOWA -KIT CARSON -LAS ANIMAS -LINCOLN -LOGAN -MINERAL -MOFFAT
-MONTEZUMA -OURAY -PHILLIPS -PROWERS -RIO BLANCO -ROUTT -SAGUACHE
-SAN JUAN -SAN MIGUEL -SEDGWICK --WASHINGTON -YUMA

Florida - FL
-BAKER -BRADFORD -DIXIE -FRANKLIN -GADSDEN -GILCHRIST -GLADES
-HAMILTON -HARDEE -HOLMES -JACKSON -LAFAYETTE -LEVY -LIBERTY
-MADISON -SUWANNEE -UNION -WASHINGTON

Georgia - GA
-APPLING -ATKINSON -BACON -BAKER -BARROW -BEN HILL -BERRIEN
-BLECKLEY ---BRANTLEY -BRYAN -BUTTS -CALHOUN -CHARLTON
-CHATTAHOOCHEE -CLAY -CLINCH -COFFEE -COLQUITT -COOK -CRAWFORD
-DADE -DECATUR -DODGE -DOOLY -EARLY --ECHOLS -EFFINGHAM -EMANUEL
-EVANS -FRANKLIN -GILMER -GLASCOCK -GRADY -GREENE -HANCOCK
-HARALSON -HEARD -IRWIN -JACKSON -JASPER -JEFF DAVIS -JEFFERSON
-JENKINS -JOHNSON -LAMAR -LANIER -LIBERTY -LINCOLN -LONG --MCDUFFIE
-MCINTOSH -MILLER -MITCHELL -MONROE -MONTGOMERY -MURRAY -OCONEE
-OGLETHORPE--PICKENS -PIERCE -PIKE -PULASKI -PUTNAM -RABUN
-RANDOLPH -SCHLEY -SCREVEN -STEWART -TALIAFERRO -TATTNALL -TAYLOR
-TELFAIR -TERRELL -TIFT -TOOMBS -TOWNS -TREUTIEN -TURNER -TWIGGS
-UNION -UPSON -WARREN -WASHINGTON -WAYNE -WEBSTER -WHEELER -WHITE
-WILCOX -WILKES -WILKINSON

Hawaii - HI  KALAWAO

Iowa - IA
-ADAIR -ADAMS -APPANOOSE -BREMER -BUENA VISTA  -CALHOUN -CASS
-CEDAR -CHEROKEE -CHICKASAW -CLARKE -CLAYTON -DALLAS -DECATUR
-EMMET -FRANKLIN -FREMONT -GRUNDY -GUTHRIE -HAMILTON -HARDIN
-HARRISON -IDA -IOWA -JASPER -JEFFERSON -LUCAS -MADISON -MAHASKA
-MITCHELL -MONONA -MONTGOMERY -PAGE -PALO ALTO -POCAHONTAS
-RINGGOLD -SAC -SHELBY -TAYLOR -UNION -VAN BUREN -WAYNE -WINNEBAGO
-WINNESHIEK



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From: [e-mail] (Scott Leaf)
Subject: Re: Connecting computers over radio.
Sender: [e-mail]
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Date: Fri, 1 Dec 1995 19:41:12 GMT
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-> Dan Axelrod wrote:
->
-> >I live in the US, and in fact I want to transmit from the east cost of New
->
-> >Jersey to Long Island NY.
->
->
->
-> >I thought that maybe SW radio would be good, since it's a. not regulated,
->
-> >and b. can bend over the horizon.
->
->
->
-> >Does anyone know how possible, leagal and/or expencive is this project?

Besome an Amateur Radio Operator and then you can send packet, Amtor,
Pactor, RTTY, SSTV or FSTV digitally all over the world.  SW is regulated
and you will get in deep trouble if you start broadcasting on unassigned
frequencies.

I would bet that their is probably a VHF packet network already
established between the two areas you mentioned and all you would need
would be a small 2Meter transmitter and a Packet TNC and you could send
all the digital messages you wanted for just a few hundred dollars.

--
Scott Leaf VE7ZVZ CN89os
[e-mail]
Port Coquitlam, British Columbia, Canada
Mountain DX Club VA7SM - "To boldy VHF where no ham has VHFed before"
Coquitlam Radio Club VE7SCC - "The Satellite Seniors"


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Rich wrote:
>
>called "money". We're not
>talking Federal Cuts here, but they are affraid of a major lawsuit with
>some wacko that wants to try to take a case all the way to the Supreme
>Court just to prove what profanity has to do with his 1st Ammendment
>Rights. It would not surprise me to see how quickly the ACLU would jump
>on that wagon. Sure there have been some cases recently but most have
>been prosecuted under some other reason like causing interfearance and
>interfering with police communications.  So we go from "politically
>correct" to "politically affraid".
>



I just thought of a great way to fix the entire problem--The "V" Chip"...
Yep, the major equipment manufacturers could install the chip in the
transmitter and receiver..If a transmitter senses a word such as poo-poo
or other indecent words it will send out a digital burst..If the receiver
on the other end activates his "V" chip he will reject the transmission..

This should only add an additional $850.00 to the cost of a radio which
should not cause a major impact to the amateur radio community according
to fact finding reports released by President Clinton's top level aides.


Waddya think...I'll have to petition the FCC immediately..maybe I'll
go to the "White House Web Page"...

Steve, wa2nhz




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From: [e-mail] (Lawrence W. Wald)
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Subject: Kenwood Blooper in QST
Date: 1 Dec 1995 21:34:00 GMT
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This may be old hat but I noticed a mistake in the Dec. 1995 QST
 ad for the Kenwood TM-241A 2 meter transceiver.  The ad is on
page 175; under the TM-241A lettering in the lower right hand
part of the page is the phrase "Dual Band Transceiver" or
something like that, implying the 241 is a dual bander.

Wondered how it slipped through...

Larry, KE8GW
--
============================================

 Lawrence Wald, IN-STEP Payload Dev. Branch
 Space Experiments Division
 NASA Lewis Research Center
 Cleveland, Ohio  44135
 Phone (w' mail) [phone]
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 [e-mail]
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From: [e-mail] (Drew Durigan)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: 3.88 mhz and Steve wa2nhz
Date: 1 Dec 1995 22:00:57 GMT
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>>For all the man-hour whining I have heard out of Drew, he probably
>>would have been able to decode Amtor in his head by now..
>>Take a damn vitamin E or something..
>>Again I reiterate, especially to Drew:
>>
>>Waaaaa!  Waaaaa!  Waaaa!
>>
>>What an EXTRA Class Cry Baby
>>
>>
>>Steve, Wa2nhz


What an attitude!  Sounds like you're the one that's whining...probably
because you realize that the membership of your little "private club" is
dwindling every day as more and more of YE OLDE FAHRTZ get the silent key.
  No code HF is only a matter of time...not "if", but "when."

When the day comes, I will be the first one to throw it in your face and
say "I told you so."  In the meantime, get off your high horse and face
reality...your kind is becoming more and more rare as the natural process
of aging takes it's toll.  Meanwhile, the numbers of no-code techs
continue to increase at a staggering rate, with more and more of them
becoming increasingly vocal about demanding HF access.  It doesn't take
Einstein to see how this will eventually all play out, does it?

-Drew in Charlotte-
 KF4DDM

 "Live in the 1990's, not the 1890's"  Ditch the code and get a computer!



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From: [e-mail] (Christopher K Greenhalgh)
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Subject: Re: 3.88 mhz and Steve wa2nhz
Date: 1 Dec 1995 23:10:44 GMT
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In article <49ntup$[e-mail]>,
Drew Durigan <[e-mail]> wrote:

>What an attitude!  Sounds like you're the one that's whining...probably
>because you realize that the membership of your little "private club" is
>dwindling every day as more and more of YE OLDE FAHRTZ get the silent key.
>  No code HF is only a matter of time...not "if", but "when."
>
>When the day comes, I will be the first one to throw it in your face and
>say "I told you so."  In the meantime, get off your high horse and face
>reality...your kind is becoming more and more rare as the natural process
>of aging takes it's toll.  Meanwhile, the numbers of no-code techs
>continue to increase at a staggering rate, with more and more of them
>becoming increasingly vocal about demanding HF access.  It doesn't take
>Einstein to see how this will eventually all play out, does it?
>
>-Drew in Charlotte-
> KF4DDM

Drew is calling someone else a "whinner"! Interesting. My Granmother used
to have this saying, "Boy thats about the pot calling the kettle black."

Besides, Drew has no evidence or proof of this 'change', nothing more than
his (unfounded) opinion.
--
  +=================================+===================================+
  |Christopher K. Greenhalgh, N8WCT |[e-mail] |
  |Electronic/Computer Tech. @ OSU  |radio: n8wct@w8cqk.#cmh.oh.usa.noam|
  +=================================+===================================+


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From: [e-mail] (Richard Eyre-Eagles)
Subject: Re: Can a Green Card holder be a ham?
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
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Robert Casey ([e-mail]) wrote:
: In article <49kn6d$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (David S. Curry KG2EB) writes:
: >     Can an English Citizen with a Green Card in the US become a ham?
: >Tnx in advance
: >73
: >David KG2EB
: >

: I knew someone back at the phone company (AT&T Bell Labs) who was from India
: and got an American ham license while he was at college here.  So it looks like
: the answer is YES.

You just can not work for Her Majesty's government.

If you hold a British license, just apply for a Alien Amateur Radio
permit, therefore you can get extra class privs.

***URGE THE US TO SIGN CEPT!!!!***

--
==================================================================
Richard Eyre-Eagles, KJ7MU    | "The opinions expressed are not
Tempe, Arizona                |  those of anyone but myself"
==================================================================


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From: [e-mail] (Steve Koone)
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Subject: Maxtrac help please!
Date: Sat, 02 Dec 1995 01:37:47 GMT
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Hi all. I just picked up a VHF lo-band 42-50 mhz maxtrac 300 radio and
have been desperatly trying to get the maxtrac software to go outside
the 50 mhz limit on into the ham 6m band. But, thanks again to Moto's
determination to get as fara away from the ham freqs as much as they
can, I cannot get their software to go up to 52 mhz. I tried the "hold
the shift key while typing in the frequency" trick like what is done
in the radius software but no luck. I tried USING the radius software
on it and no go either. I am now stuck. Has anyone out there found a
way around the 50.0  mhz limit in the maxtrac software???

All I can determine is that if the radius version will go up to 54
mhz, so will the maxtrac, but how???????

Thanks for your help!

Steve  KA4YMY

[e-mail]


PS..I have tried several different versions of the maxtrac and radius
software but nothing there either..




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From: [e-mail] (Mistie Mullarkey)
Subject: Re: frequencies for Mir?
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> Are they all FM?
> Can they be received from Malaysia?

   They are all WFM except for the Ham ones which are NFM.
143.625 is also a frequency they use. Mir does pass over Malysia about 5 times
a day. Here are the next passes in UTC:
12/02 01:54   9 min window
      03:31   9 min window
      13:32   3 min
      15:04   10 min
      16:45   2.5 min

12/03 01:00   7 min
      02:34   10 min
      14:09   10 min
      15:46    8 min

    My suggestion is to get a Satellite tracking program, that way you will
be able to predict the passes. The times I gave are good for Butterworth.
Let me know if you have any luck. 145.55 is usually active in Packet.
--





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From: [e-mail] (David S. Curry KG2EB)
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Subject: Re: Can a Green Card holder be a ham?
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bandyopadhyay,asismoy ([e-mail]) wrote:
: In article <49lu9b$[e-mail]>,
: Bob Baker  <[e-mail]> wrote:
: >My understanding is that to hold a US license you must be a US citizen.
: >
: >
: >Bob
: >WA6MCT
: >

: Not true.

: You can have a US licence if,-

: 1. Your are in US legally

: 2. You are not a representative of a foreign government.

: 3. You have a US maling address.

: >
: >[e-mail] (David S. Curry KG2EB) wrote:
: >>    Can an English Citizen with a Green Card in the US become a ham?
: >>Tnx in advance
: >>73
: >>David KG2EB
: >>
: >
: >

: You can have a reciprocal licence instead if you have a valid
: home country call

Thanks everyone for your input, trying to get some of the family on the air
and just making sure i wasnt wasting my time, however, tell me about the
reciprical call, do thhey grant you it because you were a ham in the other
country, He is from England.  What amateur bands are they alowed there?
tnx
73
David KG2EB
.


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[e-mail] (Karl Beckman) writes:
>[e-mail] (Bob Wilkins>n6fri) wrote:

>> You are probably seeing a Part 15 data network.

Huh?  How the hell does a data network have a PRI of 5 ms, and a
scan rate of 5 sec?  I think the guy knows radar when he sees it.

>You might want to send a certified letter to San Diego Gas & Electric
>andthe closest remaining FCC Field Enforcement Office advising them that
>you believe that SDGE is causing destructive interference to a licensed
>Part 97 radio system, with copies to FCC Gettysburg and ARRL HQ.

Does the SDGE run radars too?

I'm pretty sure the interference he's seeing is from the military.  And they
don't really care about Part 15 or Part 97.  The only way to get them to change
frequencies, is to jam the radar.  They will either blank the azimuth or shift
frequency.  No need for high power, just repeat the pulse train back to the
radar with a random delay.  This will look real pretty on the screen...



From Unknown Sun Dec 03 12:51:41 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Brian Kantor)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: No-Code = Affirmative Action
Date: 2 Dec 1995 10:06:47 GMT
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[e-mail] (Jim Lowman) writes:
>Tell me, how many people can troubleshoot/repair the likes of the IC-775DSP
>or a similar high-end transceiver?  They're like the latest cars and trucks,
>requiring special test equipment and techniques, to service.

So your complaint is that hams haven't kept up with current technology?

Whose fault is that?

Do you want the manufacturers to keep making simple obsolete radios so
that hams don't have to learn new things and update their test equipment
when they update their radios?

Perhaps we should never have come down out of the trees?

        - Brian


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From: [e-mail] (Brian Kantor)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Kenwood TS430 Q's
Date: 2 Dec 1995 10:10:15 GMT
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[e-mail] (Jerry B Altzman) writes:
>Unfortunately, there came with it no power supply. Can someone
>recommend a good, reasonably cheap power supply to run this beaut?

A boat battery sitting in a dishtub and attached to a battery charger?
Less than $100 total and even works for a while when the lights are out.
        - Brian


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From: [e-mail] (Gary Coffman)
Subject: Re: FCC shutdown
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail] (Gary Coffman)
Organization: Destructive Testing Systems
References: <[e-mail]> <49degs$[e-mail]> <49drsm$[e-mail]> <49fbib$[e-mail]> <49gf31$[e-mail]>
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In article <49gf31$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Michael P. Deignan) writes:
>Japan's "No-code HF" license is effectively the same as our CB radio
>license.

Not even close. They have to pass a written exam considerably stronger
than our amateur exams, and they face an on-site inspection of their
HF station, which few of our stations would pass, before they are issued
a station license. (Many Japanese amateurs don't have a station license,
and have to operate HF from a club station, because of the strict inspection
requirement.)

We ran into this latter requirement when we wished to take a satellite
truck to Japan. We had to have a separate inspection and station license
endorsement for each and every uplink location we wished to use. A major
hassle.

Gary
--
Gary Coffman KE4ZV          |    You make it,     | gatech!wa4mei!ke4zv!gary
Destructive Testing Systems |    we break it.     | emory!kd4nc!ke4zv!gary
534 Shannon Way             |    Guaranteed!      | [e-mail]
Lawrenceville, GA 30244     |                     |


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From: Avery Russell <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: TH-22 Memory Problems (Kenwood HT)
Date: 2 Dec 1995 14:32:20 GMT
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I just experienced a funny thing. The memory presets on my Kenwood TH-22
were erased.

Now, I did have the radio in the car and it slid across the carpeting.
Perhaps static electricity?

I have recentered a few frequencies and it is fine. Has anyone else ever
experienced this? What could this have been?

Thanks
Avery N3TOU




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Subject: Re: HF TOO CROWDED?
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3 khz is the standard "international good amatuer practice", any less, will cause interference to stations
above or below it, actually, 5khz is preferred spacings of most QSO's.   1.8khz is not a very good space
& WILL cause interferance. We must remember that the frequency that your rig is set on(displayed) is the
center of your bandpass, & 1.5khz each side of that is the normal "acceptted" bandwidth.



From Unknown Sun Dec 03 12:51:46 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Doug Faunt N6TQS [phone])
Subject: Re: Can a Green Card holder be a ham?
In-Reply-To: [e-mail]'s message of Sat, 2 Dec 1995 01:01:59 GMT
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Sender: [e-mail]
Organization: at home, in Oakland
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        <[e-mail]>
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Actually, if you have a UK license, and apply for a reciprocal permit,
you are limited to the frequencies that you can use in both countries.
For instance, with a UK A license, and a US reciprocal permit, you're
only allowed to use 3.5 to 3.8 MHz, 7.0 to 7.1MHz, 50 to 52 MHz,
144 to 146 MHz and 430 to 440MHz of these applicable US bands, and the
UK power limitations are in effect because otherwise you'd have more
privileges here than in the home country.  97.107(b)2
Other bands are the same, so you'd have full band privileges here,
although would be required to obey the US phone band limitations.

One of the problems with signing the CEPT agrrement is that the
testing would have to meet certain requirements.  In the UK, they had
to add testing about valve (tube) amplifiers to meet the CEPT
requirements.  The CEPT also requires Morse code testing for HF
privileges.  I don't know any more detail about these requirements,
and how much change would be required in the US to meet these
requirements.  It's difficult to get the ARRL to answer such
questions, I suspect because they don't have definitive answers.

I plan to take the UK RAE and Morse code test next May, in order to
get a CEPT license.  Their code test is noticeably harder than ours,
but my studying indicates the RAE (written test) is not as difficult
as the Advanced Class US test.

73, doug


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From: Chris Boone <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Repeaters masking tones
Date: 2 Dec 1995 19:47:36 GMT
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Jeff, your reply is incorrect....

The ACC controller does NOT affect PL or subaudible tones...
ONLY DTMF (Touch Tone) signals are muted by most repeater
controllers (and NOT just ACC)..


THE MAIN problem with PL thru a rptr is the audio path it takes..
Mic inputs cannot pass PL for the most part and this is the most
likely place a rptr ties its audio into....therefore the RPTR
cannot retransmit the user's PL tone...

73
Chris
(an ACC RC850 and LinkCom RLC3 owner)

--
Senior Telecommunications Technician    [e-mail]
ENTERGY/Gulf States Utilities           1:106/4267 FIDOnet
WB5ITT                                  PG-9-5322 FCC Commercial


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From: [e-mail] (S. Sampson)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: How to clean up the ham bands?
Date: Sat, 2 Dec 1995 20:12:59
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>I agree I don't believe the ham bands are the place for fowl language.

Fowl language??  Like tweet, hawk! hawk!, and gobble gobble!  That
kind of language should be OK :-)



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From: [e-mail] (James A Doty)
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Subject: Re: FCC shutdown
Date: 2 Dec 1995 20:44:12 GMT
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Drew Durigan ([e-mail]) wrote:
> [e-mail] (Michael P. Deignan) wrote:
> >
> >In article <49b50b$[e-mail]>,
> >     Drew Durigan <[e-mail]> wrote:
> >
> >>And soon to be "no-code HF licenses"
> >>
> >>Like it or not, it's only a matter of time.  Deal with it!!
> >

> The FCC could care less!  The problem is the international agreement...
> Zealand, for example.  Also the no-code HF license in Japan.

> Again, it's only a matter of time.  Deal with it, YE OLDE FAHRTZ!!

> -Drew in Charlotte-
>  KF4DDM

I've done some reading and it appears that in order to operate
no-code HF in Japan the operator must operate at no more than 5 watts
PEP.  I wouldn't want to exchange 95 watts of my Kenwood and 295 watts
of my Drake in order to operate no-code.  In fact at 5 watts code
would be more reliable than SSB.

Just a thought.

James A. Doty
KI7EL



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From: [e-mail] (James A Doty)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Contesting
Date: 2 Dec 1995 20:57:54 GMT
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Burt Fisher ([e-mail]) wrote:
> This is the right place, few here have no life thus mindless contesting
> is made to go here.

I don't think contesting is mindless, althought it makes the bands
very zoo like.

I don't get into every contest, but I do like working field day and
I tried the VHF contest last summer.

For field day every year myself and my friends try something different.

I believe that some of the important aspects of ham radio that I've
learned are as a result of working field day contests for the last
four years.

Next year we're planning on running strictly from deep cycle batteries,
and we're planning on building a human powered generator to recharge
batteries that are not in use.

James A. Doty
KI7EL



From Unknown Sun Dec 03 12:51:51 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Steve Wulchin)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave,alt.radio.digital,rec.radio.amateur.policy,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: Connecting computers over radio.
Date: Sat, 02 Dec 95 21:36:05 GMT
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[e-mail]     (Dan Axelrod) wrote:
>Hello all.
>
>I am interested in an interesting idea that I have for my computer:
>
>I want to connect the computer to another one over the radio waves.
>I need it to be running 24 hrs a day 7 days a week. It has to broadcast
>over about a 60 mile range. And have a speed of about a 28.8 modem.
>
>Preferably I would want a full-duplex connection just hooked up to
>modems on both sides. But other similar ideas I want to consider for
>myself too.
>
>I live in the US, and in fact I want to transmit from the east cost of New
>Jersey to Long Island NY.
>
>I thought that maybe SW radio would be good, since it's a. not regulated,
>and b. can bend over the horizon.
>
>Does anyone know how possible, leagal and/or expencive is this project?
>
>(e-mail is prefferable)
>Dan Akselrod
>------------
>http://menger.eecs.stevens-tech.edu/~danax
>mailto:[e-mail]
>


FreeWave Technologies makes a spread spectrum modem that, depending upon conditions,
might be able to meet your needs.  With clear line of sight we can transmit full duplex 115 KB data over 20 miles.
Under ideal conditions much greater range can be achieved (recently a customer of ours had a 90 mile link from Mt. Everest to
Kathmandu with a 5 watt amplifier on only 1 end).  The product can also be used as a store and forward repeater.  Therefore,
with a combination of directional antennas, good line of sight, and a repeater or two, our product can do the job.  Please let
me know if you would like some more information.

Steve Wulchin
FreeWave Technologies
[phone]
[phone] Fax
[e-mail]



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From: [e-mail]
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: How do I calibrate Yaesu YS-500 SWR/PWR meter?
Date: Sat, 02 Dec 1995 21:40:45 GMT
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I have just picked up a Yaesu YS-500 SWR & Power meter from a hamfest
today.  It was used, so no info was included.  I was wondering if
someone could tell me how to calibrate this.  Any other info. might be
helpful also.  Thanks.

Travis
KE4MBD



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From: [e-mail] (John Brunelle)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Austin Suburban TRIBand Antenna Good or Bad
Date: 2 Dec 95 22:53:58 GMT
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Folks,

Looking for comments on the Austin Suburban TRIBAND base antenna.  Any
information would be appreciated.

73 John


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From: Stephan Rashkin <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: 3.88 mhz and Steve wa2nhz
Date: 3 Dec 1995 00:27:01 GMT
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[e-mail] (Drew Durigan) wrote:
>>>For all the man-hour whining I have heard out of Drew, he probably
>>>would have been able to decode Amtor in his head by now..
>>>Take a damn vitamin E or something..
>>>Again I reiterate, especially to Drew:
>>>
>>>Waaaaa!  Waaaaa!  Waaaa!
>>>

>
>What an attitude!  Sounds like you're the one that's whining...probably
>because you realize that the membership of your little "private club" is
>dwindling every day as more and more of YE OLDE FAHRTZ get the silent key.
>  No code HF is only a matter of time...not "if", but "when."
>
>When the day comes, I will be the first one to throw it in your face and
>say "I told you so."  In the meantime, get off your high horse and face
>

Ha Ha Ha Ha!!...Mama Mama Mama...Drew you sound more and more like Jesse Jackson
and Al Sharpton every day...the only thing you know how to throw is self
pity and bull.  You are such a laughable joke my sides are splitting
A number of us had a big laugh after I showed them your posts...It's not the
cw question, but how pathetic you are...to say that I'm the one that's whining
shows how out of touch you really are..I could care less what the govt. does
with their regulations..It is not going to change the ideals that I have set
for myself...On the other hand, you personally wish to reduce standards that
hundreds of thousands have attained before you, that obviously are beyond your
ability..based on your rantings it is easy to determine your character..
probably a person that would rather quit than go the extra mile..maybe a person
that has an excuse for everything..C'mon Drew maybe we can find you a new
class of amateur license...something not too challenging like a Donny and
Marie Osmond wireless microphone...Ha Ha Ha Ha!!!  KF4DD_M_ what's missing Drew? UB..
Ha Ha Ha Ha!!!

Steve, wa2nhz




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From: [e-mail] (David Crosby)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Kenwood Blooper in QST
Date: 3 Dec 1995 01:07:22 GMT
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[e-mail] (Lawrence W. Wald) writes:

>This may be old hat but I noticed a mistake in the Dec. 1995 QST
> ad for the Kenwood TM-241A 2 meter transceiver.  The ad is on
>page 175; under the TM-241A lettering in the lower right hand
>part of the page is the phrase "Dual Band Transceiver" or
>something like that, implying the 241 is a dual bander.

My December 1995 QST has an ad for the TM-733A on page 175.  The 733 is
in fact a dual band transceiver.


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From: [e-mail] (Larry Kirby)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Kenwood Blooper in QST
Date: 3 Dec 1995 01:41:49 -0500
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        I just looked at the ad in the Dec 95 QST and found also the
blooper. In the top left hand corner it says "144MHz Single Band
Operation", but in the lower right hand corner it says "TM-241A FM DUAL
BANDER" ....Cute!
--
                         Larry Kirby  "4 of 8" KA4MWP
 147.06+/444.30+ Repeaters, Amateur Radio Packet c/o KA4MWP@W8CQK.#CMH.OH.NOAM
  Asst. Emergency Coordinator Central Ohio ARES & Co-Editor "COARES Bulletin"
                                 THINK BORG!


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Yup!...."/join #hamradio"

Steve, wa2nhz




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From: [e-mail] (Raymond Sarrio)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: ****NEW HAM WEB SITE****
Date: Sun, 03 Dec 1995 19:52:08 -0800
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I've just found a new Ham/Commercial Broadcast web site that has a large
selection of connectors and cables. The site is not yet on Yahoo or any
other www search engine that I am aware of. It is the Nemal Electronics
International Site at URL http://www.csz.com/nemal/index.html. Check it
out your really enjoy it. 73's Ray

--
Visit the Raymond Sarrio Co. Ham Radio Web Sore  http://www.csz.com/sarrio.html
Extensive Discount Ham Radio Catalog
Ham Poll--New poll questions asked monthly



From Unknown Fri Dec 08 19:46:36 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Hamvention)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: 1996 Dayton Hamvention URL change
Date: 5 Dec 1995 14:36:05 -0500
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Due to a miscommunication, the advertised URL to the 1996 Dayton
Hamvention URL was printed wrong in several locations.

The CORRECT location is:

http://users.aol.com/hamvention


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From: [e-mail] (Bill Nelson)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: 3.88 MHz sounded like CB tonight.  Yuck
Date: 4 Dec 1995 07:21:05 GMT
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bill harris ([e-mail]) wrote:
: >First time in a while, I was tuning around the 80 meter band with an
: >old general coverage SW receiver, and heard some people arguing and
: >insulting and idle threats being tossed about.  Even someone played
: >music for a minute or so.  Had to check that I had tuned 3.88 MHz
: >instead of 27.something it was so bad.

: The reason this frequency sounded like CB is because the operators
: you heard were CBers. They are CBers who just happen to have an
: amateur license, but they are not hams. Hams don't act that way.

Don't lump all CBers with the occasional idiot you find on the ham bands.
Both groups have their losers, and both groups have some excellent and
very knowledgeable people.

I personally suspect that the practical knowledge required for advanced
tickets is essentially zero. It is not that hard to memorize the questions
and proper answers.  I know a recent Extra licensee who has never picked
up a soldering iron, and couldn't draw a simple oscillator circuit if he
had to. His operating ability comes from a box that has no-tune finals
and a built in autotuner. As long as he has the commercially built antenna
hooked up to the rig, all he has to do is turn it on, tune to the frequency
he wishes to use, and transmit.

He was able to receive the code at 20 wpm, when he got his license, but
now cannot even manage 13. He cannot even transmit decently at 10 wpm,
as he has never used CW.

Now, this is an extreme example, but still illustrates my point very well.
It is the person who makes the Ham or CBer, not what tests they pass or
don't pass.

Bill


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From: Stephan Rashkin <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: 3.88 MHz sounded like CB tonight: Could be Bur
Date: 3 Dec 1995 22:55:13 GMT
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[e-mail] (KF2TI) wrote:
>In article <49ja20$[e-mail]>, Stephan Rashkin
><[e-mail]> writes:
>
>>it's kinda like learning
>>how to build a fire in the scouts without matches, or even
>>having to memorize the little scouts oath
>
>don't attack the scouts here..some of those little scout oaths
>
Snipped
>steve
>Scoutmaster - Landing, NJ Troop 188



Who the heck is attacking scouts?  My wife is a Girl Scout leader!!
I was giving it as an example, if the scouts can learn something
that is not a daily requirement...then Drew can learn the code..
either could come in handy one day...Try to read a little more
carefully next time...I went all the way to Eagle Scouts and my son
is in the Boy Scouts and my daughter is in the Girl Scouts!!!!!
Hopefully you now understand what I was saying..Learning the code
in the Cub Scouts is what led me to get my ham license in the first
place...

Steve, wa2nhz




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From: Jannick Johnsson <[e-mail]>
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Subject: 94/34 Houston
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If anybody from the 94/34 or somebody with contact with them, please
pass on my email adress to them, and tell them I miss the many good
QSO's we had together. KA5LIZ
Jannick Johnsson now Denmark
my email [e-mail]



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From: [e-mail] (N0TTW)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: A Label Past Its Time
Date: Sun, 03 Dec 1995 03:47:43 GMT
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>[e-mail] (Robert C. White Jr.) wrote:

>>Jim Weir ([e-mail]) wrote:

>>: Tech+ means nothing more to me than a person has taken a useless
>>: Federally mandated step to learn an outmoded system of modulation on
>>: their way in the amateur stairstep process.  Sort of like learning
>>: Latin in high school.

>>Hi.  A newbie here, studying for my novice license, but FWIW, CW is about
>>all that interests me.  The reason for the interest is that a novice can use
>>it on the 40 and 80 meter bands, and it is my observation that CW cuts
>>through the QRM much better than voice communications.  I would expect
>>to do much better with DX QSO than with any other transmission mode.  Is
>>this idea wrong?

>>I hope this mode doesn't die before I get to try it!

>[e-mail] (Gary V. Deutschmann, Sr.) wrote:

>Don't worry, it won't!
>In fact, you will find more and more people using CW to get those rare
>DX contacts than ever before.

>As your experience and code-speed builds from usage, you will enjoy
>that mode more and more!

>Gary - KG0ZP

Gary, don't live in the past. That's the same place CW belongs.

Chris N0TTW





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Subject: Re: A Label Past Its Time
Date: 5 Dec 1995 06:29:05 GMT
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>Gary, don't live in the past. That's the same place CW belongs.
>
>Chris N0TTW
>
>
>


Yeah sure...tried to work a Pacific island station Sunday on SSB--no dice
went to RTTY absolutely no way--went to CW and worked him rst 549..sorry
OM better go back to listening to your CD's..35 years of DX experience
tells me what can get through..


Steve, WA2NHZ




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From: [e-mail] (crum)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Alinco DJ-G5T dual-band handheld (and the DJ-580T and DJ-582T)
Date: 6 Dec 1995 11:59:52 -0700
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Does anyone have comments on the Alinco DJ-G5T dual-band (2m/70cm) handheld?
From reading a description, it looks great to me.  Earlier, I didn't
realize that it has a backlit keypad and a microphone down low
(good for full duplex).

So, if you have comments, like perhaps in these areas, please reply or post!

- Are batteries (for the DJ-G5T) available from any companies besides Alinco?

- How does battery charging work -- do you charge the pack when it is
  disconnected from the radio, as with the DJ-580T?

- How about any neat undocumented features?  The DJ-580T has a really neat
  undocumented feature -- its DTMF sending speed can be adjusted to be VERY
  (and I mean VERY) fast, by using the #123 code successively for each
  slower speed, to cycle between the 16 speeds) after F-PL/FL (as with the
  documented #508 code for entering cross band repeat mode).  I wonder if
  the DJ-G5T's DTMF sending speed can similarly be adjusted.  I wonder if
  the DJ-582T even has this really cool feature like the 580 does.

- The extra PTT button for the "other" band sounds neat.

- I have seen differing memory capacity numbers.  One description said
  "80 memories", while another said "100 memories for each side" (for a
  total of 200, I guess).  Which was correct?  I guess I should ask Alinco,
  too.

- Do people like it, and has anyone had problems with it?

The biggest problem with my DJ-580T is that it is now all alone somewhere in
the bushes up in the Wasatch Mountains.  :-(

Let's get some DJ-G5T discussion going!

Oh, and I don't suppose it has a 9600bps data jack, does it?  I don't know
of any handheld that does, darn it.

Best Regards!


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From: [e-mail] (K6CBLhater)
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Subject: Re: Another type of response that I get.
Date: 5 Dec 1995 03:48:21 -0500
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soo it sounds like local 2 meter when I turn it on


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From: Andrew Bunch <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: Any black, negro, colored
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"I know of no rights of race Superior to the Rights of man"

                                 Frederick Douglass





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From: [e-mail]
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Subject: ARLB107 HPM Award nominations
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SB QST @ ARL $ARLB107
ARLB107 HPM Award nominations

ZCZC AG74
QST de W1AW
ARRL Bulletin 107  ARLB107
From ARRL Headquarters
Newington CT  December 6, 1995
To all radio amateurs

SB QST ARL ARLB107
ARLB107 HPM Award nominations

Nominations are now open for the Hiram Percy Maxim Memorial Award.
This award goes annually to a radio amateur under age 21 whose
amateur radio accomplishments and contributions are exemplary.
Section Managers nominate individuals based on, but not limited to,
participation or leadership in local or national organizational
affairs, technical achievement, operating record, recruitment and
training of new amateurs and public relations activities.
Nominations should thoroughly document the nominee's Amateur Radio
achievements and contributions during the previous calendar year. An
award panel reviews the nominations and selects a winner. The winner
gets 1000 dollars, an engraved plaque, and a trip to attend an ARRL
convention for a formal presentation. The nomination deadline is
March 31, 1996. Section Managers may nominate more than one person.
For more details, contact Rick Palm, K1CE, Field Services Manager,
at ARRL Headquarters.
NNNN
/EX


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SB QST @ ARL $ARLB108
ARLB108 FCC book on Internet

ZCZC AG75
QST de W1AW
ARRL Bulletin 108  ARLB108
From ARRL Headquarters
Newington CT  December 6, 1995
To all radio amateurs

SB QST ARL ARLB108
ARLB108 FCC book on Internet

The FCC Interference Handbook now is available on the Internet. The
22 page booklet, available from the Compliance and Information
Bureau via the FCC World Wide Web home page, includes the same
information and illustrations contained in the recently published
Interference to Home Electronic Entertainment Equipment Handbook. It
includes information about equipment installation, identifying
interference sources, curing interference problems, and filters. It
also contains a list of home electronic equipment manufacturers and
telephone numbers. Pictures illustrate different TV interference
problems, including ham or CB transmitter interference. The
Interference Handbook is available on the World Wide Web at
http://www.fcc.gov/Bureaus/Compliance/WWW/tvibook.html.
NNNN
/EX


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From: [e-mail] (Joe BV/N0IAT)
Subject: Re: ARLD060 DX news
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From: [e-mail] (Joe BV/N0IAT)
Subject: Re: ARLD060 DX news
Date: 4 Dec 1995 07:22:02 GMT
Organization: Taipei, TAIWAN R.O.C
Message-ID: <49u7iq$[e-mail]>

In article <$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] says...

>VIETNAM, 3W.  3W5FM was worked by AA6TT in Colorado on 1831 kHz
>around the Vietnamese sunrise.

Correct callsign is 3W6FM, Franz in Ho Chih Mihn city.   Franz is licensed for
activity on 20 meters utilizing 14.198 and 14.296.

For what it's worth, BV/N0IAT is active on 40 thru 6 meters from Taipei TAIWAN.
Joe is currently residing in Taipei and operates most weekends, especially on the
WARC bands.  Operation is limited due to club station operating hours and
local regulations, but will try to be QRV as often as possible.  QSL via the
Wiskey-Zero Bureau, or call book address.





--
73 from Joe BV2/N0IAT  Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C.
Ex. 7J1AOF(Japan) KA0ZDH(novice) YU3/N0IAT(Slovenia)
Licensed Radio Amateur since 1986 //comments are mine only



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>Topics include the many ways of operating mobile, from
>motorcycle CW to aeronautical mobile;
        Hey Burt did you throw this in to see if we're awake!?

--
Henry Silvia        [e-mail]
{KE4WBW}            WPB. FLA



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From: [e-mail] (Jim Weir)
Newsgroups: alt.radio.amateur.club.clarc,rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.swap
Subject: Re: Austin Amateur Radio Suppy
Date: Mon, 04 Dec 1995 18:39:45 GMT
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[e-mail] (DavidSt1) wrote:

>You're not alone, Lewis.  I used to live in Austin and visited
>AARS a few times.  They were surly, unhelpful and
>had a general "yeah, whadda YOU want?" attitude.
>So chalk me up as being on your side on this one.
>Dave AB5S/7

I can't argue with the article on AARS because I've never BEEN to
Austin, much less shopped there.

However, AES down in Las Vegas has a person on staff named Squeak who
for my money is the sharpest, easiest to get along with ham radio
sales person I've ever had the pleasure of dealing with.  If you have
a question that Squeak can't answer, you've got yourself one hell of a
question.

I've got nothing to do with AES other than being a satisfied customer.

Jim



Jim Weir VP Engineering  | "We seem to be standing on
RST Engineering          |  the foreskin of technology."
Grass Valley CA 95945    | (Gen Chuck Yeager)
voice/fax [phone]   |
[e-mail]  AR Adv WB6BHI  CFI A&G/Comml Inst A&G/A&P/C-182A N73CQ



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As a resident of Austin. Texas, who has unfortunately frequented Austin
Amateur Radio Suppy, I can attest first hand to their surly, impatient,
and at times down right abrasive attitude.  As a ham for over 40 years,
I can not ever remember being treated so rudely when asking specific
questions about an impending purchase.






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Gary Borich <[e-mail]> writes:


>As a resident of Austin. Texas, who has unfortunately frequented Austin
>Amateur Radio Suppy, I can attest first hand to their surly, impatient,
>and at times down right abrasive attitude.  As a ham for over 40 years,
>I can not ever remember being treated so rudely when asking specific
>questions about an impending purchase.

WOW!  In the past few years, I've spent about $1200 at this establishment and
found that their people were friendly and helpful.  As I'm in New Jersey, I was
never a walk-in customer if that makes any difference.  At least over the
phone, I've had no problems with them.
                                                Jay
                                               N2OTK






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Today, my wife and I walked into AARSwent to the front counter and after being asked what we
needed we said" We are beginners and interested in investing in equipment". They were not
enthusiastic as perhaps most folks are on the radio but they at least answered our questions (w/o
a smile) and provided me with the info I needed. Both my wfe and I agreed that things would
have been most pleasant had they been a bit more interested in their customers but we attribute
it to their personalities and did not take their attitude personal. However, I would gladly
prefer a different store if they treat me just 1% better. Any recommendations in the Austin area?

robert
formerly KA5LTV




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From: Roberto Gonzalez <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: Austin Amateur Radio Suppy
Date: 6 Dec 1995 05:08:34 GMT
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Today, my wife and I walked into AARSwent to the front counter and after being asked what we
needed we said" We are beginners and interested in investing in equipment". They were not
enthusiastic as perhaps most folks are on the radio but they at least answered our questions (w/o
a smile) and provided me with the info I needed. Both my wfe and I agreed that things would
have been most pleasant had they been a bit more interested in their customers but we attribute
it to their personalities and did not take their attitude personal. However, I would gladly
prefer a different store if they treat me just 1% better. Any recommendations in the Austin area?

robert
formerly KA5LTV




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From: [e-mail] (Jeff Kilgore)
Newsgroups: alt.radio.amateur.club.clarc,rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.swap
Subject: Re: Austin Amateur Radio Suppy
Date: 6 Dec 1995 15:06:47 GMT
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In article <4a2h30$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Jay Hillgen) writes:
|> Gary Borich <[e-mail]> writes:
|>
|>
|> >As a resident of Austin. Texas, who has unfortunately frequented Austin
|> >Amateur Radio Suppy, I can attest first hand to their surly, impatient,
|> >and at times down right abrasive attitude.  As a ham for over 40 years,
|> >I can not ever remember being treated so rudely when asking specific
|> >questions about an impending purchase.
|>
|> WOW!  In the past few years, I've spent about $1200 at this establishment and
|> found that their people were friendly and helpful.  As I'm in New Jersey, I was
|> never a walk-in customer if that makes any difference.  At least over the
|> phone, I've had no problems with them.
|>                                              Jay
|>                                             N2OTK
|>
|>
|>
|>

I have spent a few thousand at AARS in the last couple of years, and have
always received friendly service. I have no complaints, and will return
there in the future. YMMV, of course.

Jeff, KC1MK


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From: Bob Fritz <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.swap
Subject: Re: Austin Amateur Radio Suppy
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I haven't called HRO's WATS line, but there in-store service has been
good for me as a newcomer. All the folks in San Diego have been willing
to talk and answer questions and steer me to things that I might like. I
went there several times before I bought anything and asked about things
I had read about.

I understand the point about phone service being not the best way to get
good information exchange, but at this point, I'm pleased with HRO
support and din't want them impugned by association.

Bob  KE6WYG




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From: Stephan Rashkin <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: Austin Amateur Radio Suppy/ HRO in Delaware
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One of the nicest guys I've come across is Bob, WN3K from HRO
in Delaware...That guy can handle a line of 10 people plus
still be pleasant and helpful on the phone at the same time.

As long as Bob is at HRO, that's where I'll buy my goodies...
He was extremely helpful many times, even when it took three
hours for me to decide on an HT..

Steve, WA2NHZ





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From: [e-mail] (John E. Taylor III)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Austin Amateur Radio Suppy/ HRO in Delaware
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In article <4a06od$[e-mail]>, Stephan Rashkin
<[e-mail]> wrote:

> One of the nicest guys I've come across is Bob, WN3K from HRO
> in Delaware...That guy can handle a line of 10 people plus
> still be pleasant and helpful on the phone at the same time.
>
> As long as Bob is at HRO, that's where I'll buy my goodies...
> He was extremely helpful many times, even when it took three
> hours for me to decide on an HT..

Yeah, there are several of us who are fans of Bob.  He's helpful, and the
store's convenient to I-95.  I try to plan trips so I go by there during
store hours.  Bob, if you're listening, how about longer hours Friday
evenings?

--
John Taylor    (W3ZID)      |  "The opinions expressed are those of the
e-mail: [e-mail] |   writer and not of Rohm and Haas Company."


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From: [e-mail] (John Gianotti)
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Subject: Re: Austin TRIBAND
Date: 3 Dec 95 17:06:53 GMT
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I have been using an Austin TRIBAND mobile antanna (2 mtrs, 450 MHz, 1.2
GHZ) for many years and have found it to be of good quality and performance.
Also, I found the company to be very fair and reputable.


73 and type to you later.
 ________________________________________________________________________
| John L. Gianotti KF9GW   #INTERNET:  [e-mail]  |
| Dir Computer Services    #VOICE:     [phone] ext 260            |
| Lake Central School Corp.#FAX:       [phone]                    |
|________________________________________________________________________|




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From: [e-mail] (David Gillahan)
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Subject: Azden PCS-4000 mod ????
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Hi!  I'm to find a modification or a way
of programming, etc to make the US version of the Azden PCS-4000 radio
step in 12.5 kHz intervals. Any info would be much appreciated...thanks & 73.

--
 ___________________________________________________________________________
( Take it easy.  -Dave                        The Upper Penninsula:         )
(                                               It's too cold, snows too    )
( Michigan Technological University             much, and it takes too long )
( The professional, perpetual student           long to get here. But hey,  )
( [e-mail]                              the air's fresh, and the    )
( kb8por@w8yy.#upmi.mi.usa.na                   water's clean. Works for me!)
(___________________________________________________________________________)


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From: Dave Nulton <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Cable Routing to Outside
Date: 4 Dec 1995 04:56:02 GMT
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Aside from the window trick, I can't think of a way to get a wire
outside without leaving a hole.  Here is what I did.

I purchased a standard size electrical outlet box.  I drilled a 1
1/4" hole in the back of the box.  I cut a hole in the sheetrock
for the outlet box and drilled a 1 1/4" hole in the exterior wall.
I then cut a short piece (approx. 4" long) of PVC pipe that would
fit in the box and exterior hole.  On the outside of the house, on
the protruding pvc pipe, I added a 90 degree PVC fitting.

Once the box is mounted securely you have a mighty fine cable pass
through.  If ever the ham shack is moved a solid plate can be
installed.  Stuff the pipe full of foam rubber to insulate from
wind and bugs.  You can even paint the outside fittings the color
of your house.

-dnult
KI5XW



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From: [e-mail] (Art Clemons)
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Subject: Re: Cable Routing to Outside
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In article <49kdm1$[e-mail]> michaelc wrote:
>Date:  30 Nov 1995 14:04:49 GMT
>From:  [e-mail]
>Newsgroups:    rec.radio.amateur.misc
>Subject:       Cable Routing to Outside
>
>Does anyone have any good ideas about getting cables from the
>inside to the outside?  I would like to hear from anyone that
>has methods of doing this WITHOUT major/visible holes in the
>wall or floor.  I have access to a window if that helps.

Well, get a piece of wood the same length as your window is wide, drill a
hole through the wood, run your coax through, solder on a connector, place
the wood in your window, close the window down on the wood, and then seal the
slight hole in the wood with something like silicon caulk.

As an aside if you don't live on the third floor or so, window locks that
prevent the window going up anymore are a very good idea to discourage
unwanted visitors entering through the window.  73 de N8BLK/1
[e-mail] (Art Clemons)



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From: [e-mail] (Darrell Earnshaw)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Can a Green Card holder be a ham?
Date: 4 Dec 1995 15:31:15 GMT
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In article <49lu9b$[e-mail]>, Bob Baker <[e-mail]> says:
>
>My understanding is that to hold a US license you must be a US citizen.
>
>
>Bob
>WA6MCT
>
Sorry Bob, I have a Green Card and a US license (NR3Y).


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From: Peter Lemken <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Can a Green Card holder be a ham?
Date: 7 Dec 1995 10:58:39 GMT
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[e-mail] (David S. Curry KG2EB) wrote:
>       Can an English Citizen with a Green Card in the US become a ham?
>Tnx in advance
>73
>David KG2EB
>

You don't even need a green card or US-citizenship. The only thing you need is a
valid postal address in the US for the FCC to send you your license. As a German
citizen I passed the General class license and as an address I gave the address of a
friend in Virginia (whose address probably shows the highest density of hams in the
whole US).


Peter Lemken
DF5JT/KE4UNQ



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From: [e-mail] (Ron Atkinson)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Can a Green Card holder be a ham?
Date: 7 Dec 1995 11:29:39 GMT
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Doug Faunt N6TQS [phone] ([e-mail]) wrote:
: Actually, if you have a UK license, and apply for a reciprocal permit,
: you are limited to the frequencies that you can use in both countries.
: For instance, with a UK A license, and a US reciprocal permit, you're
: only allowed to use 3.5 to 3.8 MHz, 7.0 to 7.1MHz, 50 to 52 MHz,
: 144 to 146 MHz and 430 to 440MHz of these applicable US bands, and the
: UK power limitations are in effect because otherwise you'd have more
: privileges here than in the home country.  97.107(b)2
: Other bands are the same, so you'd have full band privileges here,
: although would be required to obey the US phone band limitations.

Huh? First I heard of that. I operated in Europe before under a
reciprocal license (I have a US General Class license) and was given the
equivalent of a Class A license with all privileges of each county that
I a reciprocal license in. The bandplans  for my US license meant
nothing at all and I could operate anywhere that my European
equivalent license would allow me to (including voice or cw in US sections
that I coulnd't operate in under my US license). If I operated in the
band plans under a US license I would have been illegal since many of
the privileges under Region 2 are not amateur bands in Region 1, so I
would have been operating in the commercial broadcast bands.

The first thing you do before you get on the air is just *ask* the
government where you can operate and get that in writing. There's
already documents printed up that they usually just hand you or mail you
explaining what you can and can't do and where you may operate at. When
in another country you typically follow the rules for that country, not
the one where you came from.

Ron



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From: "Anthony R. Gold" <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Can a Green Card holder be a ham?
Date: Thu, 07 Dec 95 12:35:03 GMT
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In article <4a6j73$[e-mail]>
           [e-mail] "Ron Atkinson" writes:

> Huh? First I heard of that.

After the first post in this thread from a non-ham about his Green Card
holding friend, this thread has been filled with questions and answers
(some of them accurate and some not) about the FCC's license regulations,
and all apparently written by people who should have a copy of the current
rules and be able to read and to understand them.

Regards,
--
   Tony - G3SKR / AA2PM                  email: [e-mail]
                                                [e-mail]
                                        packet: g3skr@n0ary.#nocal.ca.usa.na


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From: Hans Brakob <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Can a Green Card holder be a ham?
Date: 8 Dec 1995 15:10:18 GMT
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> Can an English Citizen with a Green Card in the US become a ham?  <

Yes, providing they have a mailing address in a US jurisdiction.

There is no citizenship requirement.

73, de Hans, K0HB

--
- - - "Any sufficiently advanced technology is
      indistiguishable from magic."  A.C.Clarke
- - - Have you performed any radio magic
      this week?


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From: [e-mail] (Doug Faunt N6TQS [phone])
Subject: Re: Can a Green Card holder be a ham?
In-Reply-To: [e-mail]'s message of 7 Dec 1995 11:29:39 GMT
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
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You are talking about operating in another country using a US license
to get a reciprocal permit.

I am talking about operating in the US using a UK license to get a
reciprocal license.  The US rules are more restrictive than some other
country's rules.  Generally the US bands are as large or larger than
the bands in other countries.

Check out the FCC part 97 reference in my article (97.107(b)2).
73, doug


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From: [e-mail] (nunnya)
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Subject: Re: Celebrity hams
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I had a feeling that this was more of BURTS WORTHLESS BS!!!!
So I decided to run one and only on call to confirm, and I picked the
WIFE of Elvis, which burt claims is N6YOS, well that comes back to a
Lou Lou, last i checked her name was priscilla. So before you go
believing anything burrty has to say, double check this BS'ers info
jeff
aa7up




: Priscilla Presley, N6YOS, (1945- ), Actress
: Alvino Rey, W6UK, (1908- ), Musician/Bandleader
: Chet Atkins, WA4CZD (1924- ), Musician
: Ronnie Milsap, WB4KCG, (1943- ), Musician
: Joe Walsh, WB6ACU, (1947- ), Rock Musician ("Eagles", "James Gang")
: Andy Devine, WB6RER, (1905-1977), Actor


: Burt Fisher
: K1OIK

: --
: *******************************************************************
: *  Message Sent From:   CCS WORLD  Cape Cod's Internet Address    *
: *  http://ccsnet.com  Telnet://ccsnet.com  Ftp://unix.ccsnet.com  *
: *  Games: TW2002, VGA Planets, 4 Player DOOM, Game Connection     *



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From: [e-mail] (Are Barstad)
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Subject: Re: Celebrity hams
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   Burt Fisher <[e-mail]> wrote:

>I never make the mistake of arguing with people for whose opinions I have
>no respect.

I see... Sounds too me you must respect hams more than anyone.

>..-.   --- ..-.  ..-.

Impressive Burt, very impressive - did you look it up in your Beaver book or
did you pay your VE a few _more_ bucks to copy his notes.

I did like your celebrity list though and did see your 'disclaimer' saying you
would not be responsible for any information - right or wrong.


VA3ARE - Are Barstad

------------------------------------------------------------
 Opinions expressed herein are my own and do not in any way
 represent those of my employer.


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From: [e-mail] (Burch Akin)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
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Since I have been reading this newsgroup, there have been several
discussions about wether or not there should be a code requirement for
a Ham Radio license.  The People who say CW is dead, must not listen
to their radios very often.  I personaly don't really care for code.
I am only a Tech Plus, but working on my 13 wpm.  CW in heard on ALL
the ham bands.  I just recently purchased a 2meter SSB radio and was
amazed at how much CW I heard (not a lot, but much more than 2 meter
FM!)  Since CW is such a big part of ham radio, I don't know why
people want it taken out of the testing process.  I have only had my
license for around 6 months.  When I took the no code test, I had no
intention of learning code.  But the more I got into the hobby, the
more I wanted to upgrade to the HF bands.  I have 4 friends who
received their Tech no code licenses around the same time I did and
all but one has now passed 5wpm (the other is working on it.)  Until
CW is no longer a large part of Ham Radio (listen to all the CW on the
low end of any of the HF bands), I think it should remain in the
testing process for HF licenses (and this is coming from a person who
doesn't like code and will probably not use it very much.)  Anyway,
that's just my own thoughts and was not intended to flame the
anti-code hams (some of whom have very good arguments themselves.)

KE4ZQV  Hope to catch you on HF soon!
[e-mail]



From Unknown Fri Dec 08 19:47:19 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Steve Ellington)
Subject: Re: Connecting computers over radio.
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Forget it. Use phone lines for that kind of speed. Only microwaves allow
that kind of bandwidth!



R.Post ([e-mail]) wrote:


: On 1 Dec 1995, Dan Axelrod wrote:

: > Hello all.
: >
: > I am interested in an interesting idea that I have for my computer:
: >
: > I want to connect the computer to another one over the radio waves.
: > I need it to be running 24 hrs a day 7 days a week. It has to broadcast
: > over about a 60 mile range. And have a speed of about a 28.8 modem.
: >
: > Preferably I would want a full-duplex connection just hooked up to
: > modems on both sides. But other similar ideas I want to consider for
: > myself too.
: >
: > I live in the US, and in fact I want to transmit from the east cost of New
: > Jersey to Long Island NY.
: >
: > I thought that maybe SW radio would be good, since it's a. not regulated,
: > and b. can bend over the horizon.

: SW radio is regulated CB is not. usually CB does not bend over the horizon.
: To use SW radio you need an amateur licence...
:
: >
: > Does anyone know how possible, leagal and/or expencive is this project?
: >
: possible, yes. If you've got the licence it's even legal, but still then not
: appiciated by other ham's. If you are using CB you'll find the chanels to small
: (close together) to use 28k8, common practice on CB is 1k2 or 2k4. This
: is due to the bandwith required to transmit 28k8 over loger distances
: while leaving some s/n ratio at the receiving end.
: 1k2 is not expencive, a few bugs for the modem is all you need to spend.
: If you're willing to learn for the licence, the ham-radio packet-network
: might come close to your needs.

: If you want to know more about hams just ask an american ham. Maybe you
: should reed rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc for a while.

: cu Remco.

--
Steve Ellington [e-mail]  Louisville, Ky


From Unknown Fri Dec 08 19:47:20 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Al Gerheim)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: contest mailing list
Date: 5 Dec 1995 13:06:33 GMT
Organization: Sonalysts, Inc.
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X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2]

I made the mistake of subscribing to the mailing list via

[e-mail]

It flooded me with messages from hams spouting their personal
exploits during contests.  Besides the obvious waste of bandwidth,
it increased the "SNR" on my mail reader to the point that I have
to struggle to find _important_ messages.

Does anyone know of a contest mailing list hooked to an intelligent
_editor_ of some sort?

--
***********************************************************************
Al Gerheim, N4QN      |Opinions expressed here | Sonalysts Inc. POB 280
[e-mail] |    are my own.         | 215 Parkway North
Work: [phone]   |                        | Waterford CT 06385
***********************************************************************


From Unknown Fri Dec 08 19:47:21 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Watts)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Contest Rules at www.arrl.org?
Date: 5 Dec 1995 13:42:40 -0700
Organization: Colorado State University, Fort Collins, CO  80523
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X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2]

I was looking for the rules and entry form for the January VHF contest
at the www.arrl.org site (like it says to in QST) and they have lots
of things on the page, BUT NO RULES, or at least a category that makes
you think 'the rules are there'.

Where are the rules?

In the QST contest announcement, I noticed a plug for the ARRL contest
book and some wording to the effect that they changed (again) the rover
rules, but NO RULES.
Galen, KF0YJ


From Unknown Fri Dec 08 19:47:22 1995
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From: [e-mail]
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Contest Software
Date: 6 Dec 1995 00:45:22 GMT
Organization: East Bay Municipal Utility District
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X-Newsreader: SPRY News 3.03 (SPRY, Inc.)

Anyone have a suggestion where I can find PC contesting software on the net?
I've been looking in the BARC FTP site, but this is like looking for a needle in a haystack - file descriptions poor.
Looking for something that might be useful in several different contests (10 meter, SS, DX, etc.)

Thanks, Jim.

---------------------------------------------------------
Jim Bennett ([e-mail]) / N6PDX
Supervising Systems Programmer
East Bay Municipal Utility District
Oakland, California
voice: 510.287.0224  /  fax: [phone]




From Unknown Fri Dec 08 19:47:23 1995
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From: Hans Brakob <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Contesting
Date: 3 Dec 1995 21:03:56 GMT
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>I guess I must be missing something here.....<

Some of us would say that is definitely true.

But, hey, if you don't like it, then do sumpin'
else that's fun for you.

73, de Hans, K0HB

--
- - - "Any sufficiently advanced technology is
      indistiguishable from magic."  A.C.Clarke
- - - Have you performed any radio magic
      this week?


From Unknown Fri Dec 08 19:47:24 1995
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From: [e-mail] (P Dettmann)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Contesting
Date: Thu, 07 Dec 1995 21:35:35 GMT
Organization: Australian Public Access Network Association
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Burt Fisher <[e-mail]> wrote:
>Give me a break. Radio contesting is like chess there is no excercise in
>either.
You have to be serious and understand that a high degree of fitness,
both is needed if you are doing more than just toying with something,
and contesting does provide a goal to be attained.

> And fox hunting for NORMAL men is looking for attractive hot girls.
Of course there is a time and place for everything, but not everybody
is that sex starved.  You have to use your thinking apparatus, and
detect the advantages of having the girl friend navigate ... well of
course you inevitably get lost , so what do you do?

>   |  Teacher of video, broadcasting and electronics     |
Some would say that the only interesting part of commercial
braodcasting is the pornography, but as a teacher you would know
better.

               I like contests, but it does not overpower my life

                                      Peter Dettmann




From Unknown Fri Dec 08 19:47:25 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Doug Brandon)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: CQWW QSL info needed
Date: 5 Dec 1995 22:18:56 -0800
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Would appreciate help on finding QSL routes for the following stations
worked during the CQWW SSB & CW contests.

OD5NJ
SU2MT
SU1A
ET3AA
7Q7A
8Q7VJ
A92Q
4S7TWG
TA3D
J45T
TA4ZM
C4A


  73 de Doug  NF6H

--
/*--------------------------------------------------------------------*/
  Doug Brandon        http://www.kaiwan.com/~dab        [e-mail]


From Unknown Fri Dec 08 19:47:26 1995
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Organization: University of Maine System
Date: Sun, 3 Dec 1995 13:58:26 EST
From: <[e-mail]>
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: dj160 packet mod
Lines: 6

HEllo again, I am looking for the mod that one has to do to wire the dj160 to
packet.  I am using a baycom modem running baycom software.
Currentlt I get a "Whicked" howl when the connection are in place..
I think it is a matter of a resistor here and a capacitor there..
am I correct?
please reply here as well as [e-mail]
Thanks,   Jason    N1RWY


From Unknown Fri Dec 08 19:47:27 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Bob Raymond)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: DXtreme Amateur Radio Station Log System V2.0
Date: 5 Dec 1995 12:13:37 GMT
Organization: DXtreme Software
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Message-ID: <4a1d1h$[e-mail]>
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X-NETCOM-Date: Tue Dec 05  4:13:37 AM PST 1995
X-Newsreader: WinVN 0.92.6

DXtreme Amateur Radio Station Log System(TM) Version 2.0

Designed for HF DXers, this affordable logging program lets you maintain
a database of your contacts and track the DXCC performance of your station.
DXtreme(TM) features attractive, easy-to-use screens, and a full range of
inquiries and reports.

Demo diskette now available!

For further information regarding prices and availability, please contact me at:

Internet: [e-mail]

73 and good DX,

Bob Raymond, NE1I


From Unknown Fri Dec 08 19:47:28 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Ed Mitchell)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: exploding battery
Date: 5 Dec 1995 04:13:20 GMT
Organization: Virtual Publishing Co.
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In article <497vup$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] says...
>
>
>I am interested in information about what might cause a 12 volt
>lead-acid car/truck battery to explode.  The battery is labeled as a
>"Power Trust 60" and was the old design where the user should add
>water.  The battery exploded when the truck engine was off, and it was
>not being jumped.  The truck was parked, and the occupant would turn
>the engine on about once every twenty minutes or so to warm up the
>passenger compartment.  The battery exploded several seconds after the
>hood was raised.  Who manufactured the battery and why did it explode?

I can't provide a lot of specifics except to note that batteries do indeed
explode. The rule of thumb is to treat all lead acid batteries as
- a bomb
- a powerful arc welder
- a source of highly hazardous acid - a veritable hazardous materials scene in
a convenient carrying box.

During operation, lead acid batteries out gas hyrdogen gas. Opening the car
hood might have created a nice mixture of hyrdogen and oxygen. Contributing
factors could have been spark sources (a cigarette perhaps?)

Ed, KF7VY



From Unknown Fri Dec 08 19:47:29 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Peter Simpson)
Subject: Fowl Language
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Sender: [e-mail] (News Administration)
Reply-To: [e-mail]
Organization: 3Com Corporation
Date: Wed, 6 Dec 1995 11:42:28 GMT
Lines: 15

Those people you hear on the ham bands using fowl language
are not "hams", they are merely "turkeys".

:-)

Peter, who reminds you that there's always PL, the frequency knob
and the power switch.
--

 Peter Simpson, KA1AXY       Linux!       [e-mail]
 3Com Corporation         The free Unix   [phone] voice
 Boxborough, MA 01719      for the 386    [phone] fax





From Unknown Fri Dec 08 19:47:31 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Cliff Frescura K3LL)
Subject: Re: Fowl Language
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Date: Thu, 7 Dec 1995 00:48:35 GMT
References: <[e-mail]>
Organization: Nauticom - Internet Access Provider
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Lines: 23

Peter Simpson ([e-mail]) wrote:
: Those people you hear on the ham bands using fowl language
: are not "hams", they are merely "turkeys".

: :-)

Fowl language is for the birds.

: Peter, who reminds you that there's always PL, the frequency knob
: and the power switch.
: --
:
:  Peter Simpson, KA1AXY       Linux!       [e-mail]
:  3Com Corporation         The free Unix   [phone] voice
:  Boxborough, MA 01719      for the 386    [phone] fax



--

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|[e-mail]                      K3LL @ W3UDX.#WPA.PA.USA.NOAM |
| [e-mail]                      "Adapt, Migrate, or Die."     |


From Unknown Fri Dec 08 19:47:31 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Waldemar Krzok)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: frequencies for Mir?
Date: Tue, 05 Dec 1995 09:59:10 GMT
Organization: FU Berlin
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Reply-To: [e-mail]
NNTP-Posting-Host: waldemar.dialup.fu-berlin.de (160.45.218.25)
X-Access: 16 17 19

[e-mail] (David Walcott) wrote:

>Does anyone know if the radio frequencies for spacecraft Mir are available,
>and if so where?
>Thanks, David

Hi,
try 145.200 MHz Up // 145.800 MHz dwn
and:

read www at:

http://www.op.dlr.de/EUROMIR95/

73, de DL7ANQ // SO6ANQ
Waldek




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From: Fraser Bonnett <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Garage Door Opener RFI
Date: 3 Dec 1995 21:39:07 GMT
Organization: CompuServe, Inc. (1-800-689-0736)
Lines: 15
Message-ID: <49t5dr$hla$[e-mail]>

Does anyone have experience with RFI being generated by the beam
sensors on the new generation of Garage door openers.

I installed a pair of STANLEY ST200 openers and found that the
beam sensors cause SERIOUS RFI on 10 meters about every 12 kHz.

I've tried ferrite chokes on the sensor wires, ferrite chokes and
AC line filters on the opener motors, all to no avail.

Any ideas?  By the way, disconnecting the beam sensors stops the
RFI, but then the doors won't work!

HELP  Fraser, N3VSM

[e-mail]


From Unknown Fri Dec 08 19:47:33 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Christopher Teli)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: ham club in austin ?
Date: 5 Dec 1995 19:48:30 GMT
Organization: Texas Instruments
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Reply-To: [e-mail]
NNTP-Posting-Host: cardiac.tsd.itg.ti.com


is there amateur radio club in Austin texas, could somebody give me an
address or a number i could call to find out.
thanx
chris.



From Unknown Fri Dec 08 19:47:34 1995
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From: Chris Boone <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: ham club in austin ?
Date: 7 Dec 1995 00:43:37 GMT
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There are several ham clubs in Austin...

contact Joe Makeever W5EBJ at his home number (its listed I
think)..He can give you info on two or three Im sure! I'll see if
I can get more info for you

73
Chris

--
Senior Telecommunications Technician    [e-mail]
ENTERGY/Gulf States Utilities           1:106/4267 FIDOnet
WB5ITT                                  PG-9-5322 FCC Commercial


From Unknown Fri Dec 08 19:47:35 1995
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From: Donald Giordano <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Ham net in the South Pacific
Date: 8 Dec 1995 08:45:51 GMT
Organization: Cogent Software
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X-Mailer: Mozilla 1.22 (Windows; I; 16bit)
To: General

Can anybody give me info on the net that gives assistance to those
sailing in the South Pacific?  I believe that they relay messages from
sailboats to land, track sailboats and update weather reports for
cruising sailboats. Are there any www sites?  Any help would be
appreciated.  Thanks, Don Giordano.   I can be reached at:
[e-mail]



From Unknown Fri Dec 08 19:47:36 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Len Winkler)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Ham Radio & More Show on Shortwave Live
Date: Sun, 03 Dec 95 16:21:27 GMT
Organization: Ham Radio & More Show
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X-Newsreader: News Xpress Version 1.0 Beta #4

Check out WWCR, 5.065mhz at 2300utc Sundays and see if the Ham Radio & More
Show is Live! It runs live most Sundays on that frequency. Call in and let us
know at 1-800-298-8255!!
73,
Len, KB7LPW

Len Winkler, KB7LPW                           [e-mail]
P.O. Box 9219                                   [e-mail]
Phoenix, Az. 85068-9219
Ham Radio & More Show info at:
http://www.barc.org/barc/ham-more.html
The show airs LIVE at 6:00pm ET, 2300utc, Sundays on the Talk
America Radio Network in over 62 cities. Check WWW page for list.
The show also airs on WWCR shortwave, Saturdays at noon ET (1700utc) on 12.160, and Mondays at 1000utc on 7.435.
Also, LIVE on C-band satellite....Spacenet 3, Transponder 9, 6.8 audio.
Support "WOG". Written only General!!!






From Unknown Fri Dec 08 19:47:37 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Ken McCoy)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: hamfests in OH?
Date: 4 Dec 1995 04:19:32 -0500
Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364)
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Sender: [e-mail]
Message-ID: <49uef4$[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail] (Ken McCoy)
NNTP-Posting-Host: newsbf02.mail.aol.com

Does anyone know where I might find information on hamfests in Ohio,
online and otherwise?

Ken
[e-mail]


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From: [e-mail] (Steve Mason)
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Subject: Re: Hams please read ....
Date: 4 Dec 1995 23:36:07 GMT
Organization: AGT Ltd.
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In article <znr817238843k@Digex>, [e-mail]≡ says...

>Internet lore: the term was derived from the Monty Python skit, were 'spam'
>was said/sung numerous times.  It was a really funny skit, too.

 Bloody Vikings!!

 I guess Nye Vikings to get back on topic...


Steve



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From: [e-mail]
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Date: Thu, 07 Dec 1995 03:36:36 GMT
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Dear Friends:

     I have a friend who has been in a wheelchair for about 40 years
after having been injured in a football game in high school.  He would
like to be able to study for his ham license, and can use a computer.

     Would appreciate someone sending him a floppy disk with shareware
and/or freeware for code practice (he probably will not have to send)
and question pool study and/or anything else you think he could use.

     He has written to handiham without any response.  Thanks for any
help.  His address is:
     Bill Clark        P. O. Box 276     Gorman, TX. 76454

Thanks, WA5PUA, John
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\        /
 \  /\  /       WIN95? .. been there, done that!
  \/  \/ ARPED, and doing quite well, thank you!



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Dear Friends:

     I have a friend who has been in a wheelchair for about 40 years
after having been injured in a football game in high school.  He would
like to be able to study for his ham license, and can use a computer.

     Would appreciate someone sending him a floppy disk with shareware
and/or freeware for code practice (he probably will not have to send)
and question pool study and/or anything else you think he could use.

     He has written to handiham without any response.  Thanks for any
help.  His address is:
     Bill Clark        P. O. Box 276     Gorman, TX. 76454

Thanks, WA5PUA, John
-----------------------------------------------------
\        /
 \  /\  /       WIN95? .. been there, done that!
  \/  \/ ARPED, and doing quite well, thank you!



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From: [e-mail] (Don Pickerel)
Subject: Help requested on hearing aids being blown
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Hi.
Sorry to be very off subject, but a friend of mine has requested some
help. Her son wears two hearing aids. He's just been moved to a new
classroom, and his hearing aids keeping going bad on him. The hearing
aid company has evidently suggested some type of broadcast noise in the
classroom. The school has recently replaced the lights with better ones,
but she'd like to evaluate the classroom to see if there are any other
sources of high power emf.

So she's asked me, a very inactive ham, for ideas. She can't afford
expensive equipment, but I thought some of you might have ideas on
figuring amount of power in the area, and maybe getting an idea of what
frequencies are being generated, although  my guess would be 60Hz.
Ideas on home made equipment would be very helpful.

Thanks for any ideas.
-Don Pickerel-
(KC6NFW)



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Help,

I am looking for someone with one of those CD-ROM license directories to help
pull up a list of HAMS in my area for me.  I do not have a CD-ROM player or
access to one otherwise I would just buy the disk.

please contact me via e-mail if you can help.


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From: [e-mail] (K6CBLhater)
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Subject: Re: Help with Tube Amplifier Troubleshooting
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Is the blue a hazy substance that may appear to "wander" around or is it
in the glass?  The first of these described anomalies is due to GAS, and
can be fatal to the life of a tube. The second is sometimes due to a small
amopunt of phosphor on the glass, perhaps due to incomplete or poor
rinsing when the tubes were made.  If the tubes were made in China, its
probably normal and perhaps the result of Chinese beer in the rinse
solution.  If it is a Russian tube, it is probably due to Vodka in the
rinse tanks.   If it was an American tube it would not have any gas
probably, but if it did it may be due to all the hot air that propogates
around in American political circles.


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From: [e-mail] (KG7FU)
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Where are you Jeff?


"YOU kill what YOU fear and YOU fear what YOU don't understand"

[e-mail]
[e-mail]
[e-mail]



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From: [e-mail] (Mike Anderson)
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MA>My Yaesu FT-23R HT has taken up the rather distressing habbit of
MA>continuously flashing everything on the display.  It no longer
MA>seems to transmit, though receive works fine on whatever repeater
MA>it was last tuned in to.

MA>Any ideas on how to best discourage this behavior?

Well when all else fails the Yaesu people seem to do pretty
competent repairs. My FT-11R has been to their facility on
the left coast twice since July. It now works perfectly as
far as I can tell. Fortunately it is under warranty. The first
trip, to replace the CPU which may be your problem, would have
cost $80. Good luck.                    73, Mike WA8JDW

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From: [e-mail] (Per-Tore Aasestrand)
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Subject: HF receiver using DSP
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I am interested in experimenting with using Digital Signal Processing
(DSP) for the implementation of a HF high-performance amateur-radio
receiver. I would like to have everything from after 1st mixer handled
by DSP.

Does anyone have any experience or references in this connection.
I would need details regarding possible HW solution and algorithms for
filtering, demodulation (AM, SSB, CW, SyncAM), spurious signal
elimination etc. Are there any good books available that focuses on
these problems?

Regards,
Per-Tore
LA7NO


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From: "Gary P. Fiber" <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: HF receiver using DSP
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You might also ask in comp dsp newsgroup. There is where all of the people
who are into engineering dsp appear to hang out.

Gary



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From: [e-mail] (charles copeland)
Subject: HF rig has 800hz offset for CW?
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My TS820 manual states that the CW transmit is 800hz offset
to the receive.  Why do they do that?

Assuming two CW operators have this same radio, how is it corrected?
(I know about the RIT control. How is situation corrected without RIT)

example:

             OPERATOR #1     OPERATOR #2

                             <-- TX 7101.6
             TX 7100.8 -->   <-- RX 7100.8
             RX 7100.0 -->




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Subject: Re: HF rig has 800hz offset for CW?
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[e-mail] (charles copeland) wrote:
>
> My TS820 manual states that the CW transmit is 800hz offset
> to the receive.  Why do they do that?
>
> Assuming two CW operators have this same radio, how is it corrected?
> (I know about the RIT control. How is situation corrected without RIT)
>
> example:
>
>              OPERATOR #1     OPERATOR #2
>
>                              <-- TX 7101.6
>              TX 7100.8 -->   <-- RX 7100.8
>              RX 7100.0 -->


Hummm,

My Kenwood TS-440 has a 800 CW offset.  The Beat Freq. is 800 Hz below
the CW signal and the offset is up 800 Hz; so,

                TX/RX in display is where you are.

                7100.8 = 7100.8

Did you miss the point of the instruction?  Maybe play with carrier of
WWV or other known source to validate.

KF0OS


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From: Gareth Crispell <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: How Slanted Can Dipole Be?
Date: 8 Dec 1995 04:11:00 GMT
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To: [e-mail]

[e-mail] (KK5EP) wrote:
>I have 2 trees available to put up a 40 mtr windom in. one tree
>has as its lowest limb a height of around 70-75 ft while the other tree is
>30 ft high, maximum.  Would this much slant affect the radiation pattern
>of the dipole adversely?

--
 It will tend to be somewhat directional in the direction of the slant.
It should work just fine. Dipoles are very forgiving!

N1MSV





                 ..as for the mysteries of the
                Universe...they knew them not...


  And in the time of their visitation they shall shine, and run
  to and fro like sparks among the stubble.

  gareth     e-mail    [e-mail]




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From: [e-mail] (KK5EP)
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Subject: How Slanted Can Dipole Be?
Date: 7 Dec 1995 21:36:15 -0500
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I have 2 trees available to put up a 40 mtr windom in. Problem is one tree
has as its lowest limb a height of around 70-75 ft while the other tree is
30 ft high, maximum.  Would this much slant affect the radiation pattern
of the dipole adversely?  Any comments, suggestions appreciated. 73, Mike
 KK5EP


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<html><h1>HTX-202 article</h1><body><p>The response for my article on the HTX-202 and HTX-404 has been overwhelming. I thank everybody for their interest.


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<HTML><H1>HTX-202 and 404 Article</h1><body><p>I goofed on the hyperlink on earlier posts. Sorry!<p>Thanks to all for your interest in the HTX-202 and HTX


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From: [e-mail] (Paul J. Piercey (VO1HE))
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>From: John Lloyd KE4UTX <[e-mail]>
>Subject: IOTA expedition to NA-110 Hunting Is., SC, USA
>Date: 29 Nov 1995 16:47:23 GMT
>Organization: IBM
>John Lloyd KE4UTX <[e-mail]> wrote:
>Hello All,
>       I will be operating portable this weekend from IOTA NA-110
>Hunting Island, SC, USA. Hunting Island is a Semi-Tropical Island off
>the coast of Beaufort, SC. It is one of my favorite camping locations.
>       I will begin operating from there around 2000UTC Friday and
>continue until Monday Morning. If you collect IOTAs or just want to
>say "Hello" give me a shout. I'll be on the usual IOTA Frequencies
>(+- 14260KHz).
>
>73 es CUL John KE4UTX
>
>--
>John Lloyd
>Email - [e-mail]
>Phone - 919-254-8021
>Radio - --... ...--    -.. .   -.- . ....- ..- - -..-
>
Too bad it took 6 days for this message to get through the
system to our local news server. Might have been a nice one
to get.


============================================================================
Paul J. Piercey

VO1HE
[44.135.16.3]

Packet Address     VO1HE@VO1AAA.#ENF.NF.CAN.NOAM
Internet Address   [e-mail]
============================================================================


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From: [e-mail] (Gary V. Deutschmann, Sr.)
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Just wanted you to know that your RWC report is read daily!
Have a Very Merry Christmas!
Gary




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From: [e-mail] (Mistie Mullarkey)
Subject: Re: IRC for Hams?
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> Is there a chat location used by hams?

Try telnetting to 44.102.40.67 3600 or 134.117.12.18 3600 there are many more.
these world wide convers servers are only used by hams.
--





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From: [e-mail] (John Rouse / Capital Gazette)
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Subject: Re: IRC for Hams?
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Don't expect too much, though, as it tends to be a tad dull. There are
generally more bots than humans. It's surprising how little activity is
found there.
--
John L. Rouse                             Packet: [e-mail]
Capital-Gazette Communications            FAX: [phone]
[e-mail]                        Phone: [phone]
[e-mail]                             410-268-5000


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From: [e-mail] (charles copeland)
Subject: Re: IRC for Hams?
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In article <49r346$[e-mail]>,
David D. Danneberger <[e-mail]> wrote:

>
>Is there a chat location used by hams?
>

Yes, #hamradio.



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[e-mail] (Mistie Mullarkey) wrote:


>> Is there a chat location used by hams?

>Try telnetting to 44.102.40.67 3600 or 134.117.12.18 3600 there are many more.
>these world wide convers servers are only used by hams.
>--

Also add 44.64.20.104 thats the qso.k2mf.ampr.org qso node in NJ that
is also world wide


Ed Velez / Corsair Communications
Taking the bite out of cellular fraud...



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On Sun, 3 Dec 1995, Mistie Mullarkey wrote:

> Date: Sun, 3 DEC 1995 14:23:09 GMT
> From: Mistie Mullarkey <[e-mail]>
> Newgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
> Subject: Re: IRC for Hams?
>
>
> > Is there a chat location used by hams?
>
> Try telnetting to 44.102.40.67 3600 or 134.117.12.18 3600 there are many more.
> these world wide convers servers are only used by hams.
> --
>
>
>
>
>
You might want to try Internet Relay Chat (the EfNet) #hamradio and/or
on the Undernet #hamradio  Both are active channels on IRC
-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=

Tim Wright KD4OVM

[e-mail]
[e-mail]

My words are mine and not that of my Employer
Morehead State University Police
E-911 Dispatcher

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From: [e-mail] (Bob)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Kenwood TS-140S
Date: 5 Dec 1995 14:08:13 GMT
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Can someone please help me locate software for a Kenwood IF-10C interface.
Thank you


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From: KF0OS <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: List of Hams
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[e-mail] (Marc Purdon) wrote:
>
>
> >I am looking for someone with one of those CD-ROM license directories to help
> >pull up a list of HAMS in my area for me.  I do not have a CD-ROM player or
> >access to one otherwise I would just buy the disk.
>
> You can get all that info on one of the callservers. Telnet to:
> cs.buffalo.edu:2000
>                                                       Marc.

Also, with "Netscape" or similar product try:

http://www.ualr.edu/doc/hamualr/callsign.html

Works good for me.
KF0OS


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>I am looking for someone with one of those CD-ROM license directories to help
>pull up a list of HAMS in my area for me.  I do not have a CD-ROM player or
>access to one otherwise I would just buy the disk.

You can get all that info on one of the callservers. Telnet to:
cs.buffalo.edu:2000
                                                      Marc.



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From: [e-mail] (Michael P. Gangemi)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,misc.industry.electronics.marketplace,rec.audio.marketplace,rec.audio.misc,rec.audio.opinion
Subject: Looking for Larry Steckler; Editor of "Radio Electronics"
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Is this publication still in print and /or does anyone know how to contact
it's editor Larry Steckler?
I'm trying to get information from him regarding Jack Darr, a former
writer for his publication.

Many,many thanks,

--
To get random signatures put text files into a folder called │Random Signatures▓ into your Preferences folder.


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From: [e-mail] (Michael Covington)
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Michael P. Gangemi ([e-mail]) wrote:
: Is this publication still in print and /or does anyone know how to contact
: it's editor Larry Steckler?
: I'm trying to get information from him regarding Jack Darr, a former
: writer for his publication.

It is now known as Electronics Now and the present editor is Brian Fenton,
whose email address I will mail you.  Mr. Steckler is still there as an
executive editor or something like that.  I'm the "Q&A" columnist.

--
Michael A. Covington                http://www.ai.uga.edu/faculty/covington/
Artificial Intelligence Center                                           <><
The University of Georgia                Unless specifically indicated, I am
Athens, GA 30602-7415 U.S.A.                not speaking for the University.


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From: [e-mail] (Kurt M. Marden)
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In article <[e-mail]>,
Michael P. Gangemi <[e-mail]> wrote:
>Is this publication still in print and /or does anyone know how to contact
>it's editor Larry Steckler?
>I'm trying to get information from him regarding Jack Darr, a former
>writer for his publication.
>
>Many,many thanks,
>
>--
>To get random signatures put text files into a folder called │Random Signatures▓ into your Preferences folder.

Combined with Electronics Now magazine. Gernsback Publishing.
1-516-293-3000 Admin offices
1-800-288-0652 Subscriber Cust. Service.


Kurt


--
Kurt M. Marden
[e-mail]
"The reward of work well done is the opportunity
 to do more."


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From: [e-mail] (Peter)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Looking for mrf 422                                                    mrf422 wanted!!
Date: Mon, 4 Dec 1995 19:07:03
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Hi there

Do you  know any source to get a mrf422?
Pse give also some info abt the $$

73 peter


From Unknown Fri Dec 08 19:48:11 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Ben E. Cline)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Missing data in RAC CD-ROM?
Date: 4 Dec 1995 15:15:15 GMT
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I wonder if anyone has noticed missing calls from the
RAC (Radio Amateur Callbook) CD-ROM?  I worked
5V7AA over the weekend.  He gave his manager as HH2HM.
HH2HM is not in the CD-ROM, but it is in my 1995
printed callbook.  I also found a G0 call that is
not in the RAC CD-ROM, but is in the QRZ! CD-ROM.

So, I know that not all calls are published, and I suppose
someone who is in the 1995 callbook may decide not to have
his call published in the 1996 (I guess via the government
agency for the particular country).  So, I'm just wondering.
Anyone notice calls missing from the RAC CD-ROM that should
be there?  Anyone with a 1996 printed callbook (are they out
yet) know if HH2HM is in it?

73, Benjy

--
Benjy Cline, AC4XO, Ph.D.
Virginia Tech Computing Center
[e-mail]
http://benjy.cc.vt.edu:1951/~benjy/


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From: "Danny BΘlisle" <[e-mail].>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: MODIF for ICOM IC-2GXAT
Date: 4 Dec 1995 17:50:05 GMT
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Hello !!
My name is Danny (VE2DKA)from QuΘbec, Canada, and i would like the
modification for my IC-2GXAT. If you have it, please send me at my
e-mail!  : [e-mail]
Thank you very much !!!
Danny BΘlisle, VE2 DKA.



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From: [e-mail] (Ron Long)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Modification for the Yaesu 736R
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In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (David Feldman) wrote:

> In article <[e-mail]> Hugh Amlett (KA9RLD)
<[e-mail]> writes:
> >I am interested in obtaining information concerning the MOD
> >from Mutek Ltd, in England for the Yaesu 736R.  The Mod
> >replaces two pc boards in the radio from switching diodes with
> >relays, and is suppose to highly improve the receive....anyone
> >having information on this please email.....Thanks...Hugh
>

>
> Mutek address is;
>
> muTek limited
> PO Box 24
> Long Eaton
> Nottingham
> NG10 4NQ
>
> Phone [phone]
>
> If I remeber correctly they don't take access or visa :-( so there is an
> authorised dealer over here for muTek who does and they are;
>
> Martin Lynch G4HKS,
> The Amateur Radio Exchange Centre
> 140-142 Northfield Avenue
> Ealing
> London
> W13 9SB
>
> Phone [phone]

Here is the way to send money to the UK from USA. Call 1-800-424-2923.
This is Ruesch International. Tell them how many GBP (Great British
Pounds) you want. They tell you the exchange rate, add $2.00 fee. You send
a personal check to them and in a week you have your check ready to send
to UK. Works great and far better than most banks. My local bank now wants
$20 fee regardless of size and they also take several days.
Address is Ruesch International, 700 11th ST NW, Washington, DC 20001-4507.
Ron w8gus.


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From: [e-mail] (David S. Curry KG2EB)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Motorola
Date: 6 Dec 1995 16:49:38 GMT
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        Does anyone know a list of motorola dealers, or places to get them
used?  I ma primarily looking for a uhf 6 channel with a dtmf pad. tnx

David
KG2EB



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From: [e-mail] (David Stephen Mason)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.swap,rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Motorola ht440 info wanted
Date: 4 Dec 1995 16:02:12 GMT
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     Hello,

         I have a pair of the Motorola ht440 model h24lcu3144an  ht's
         that I am wanting to change the crystals on. I would like
         some information on the crystals and on how to re-tune the radio.
         Thanks in advance.

                       David Mason   KC5CXD





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From: Pat Ryan <[e-mail]>
In-Reply-To: Bob Parnass, AJ9S
Subject: N. IL hamfest/computerfest calendar 1995 & 1996

Don't forget the Starved Rock Radio Club (SRRC) Hamfest on June 1 & 2, 1996, held usually in Princeton, IL.  73 de Pat KC6VVT, SRRC member.


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From: [e-mail] (Mike McDowell)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Need help removing 2510 talkback.
Date: 5 Dec 1995 10:19:24 -0500
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Can someone post a fix for this annoying problem.

Mike



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From: [e-mail] (Erik K.Sorgatz)
Subject: Re: Need help removing 2510 talkback.
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In article <4a1nts$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Mike McDowell) writes:
>Can someone post a fix for this annoying problem.
>
>Mike
>

 What..you must be kidding! This isnt a factory feature! Some bozo-CB-pseudo
Tech has been fiddling in your rig! When you key up, the audio from the low
level mic preamp circuit is being fed into the receive audio amp. Cut this
connection and your problem is solved - say, come to think of it..I didnt
see any call letters in your posting...are you a CBer running this radio ??

 Tisk, tisk! Shame on you if you're violating Part 95! A federal law no less!

(Come to think of it..would a real ham need to ask such a silly question? ;-) )
[e-mail] (or:[e-mail]) KB6LUY (private email:[e-mail])
TTI 3100 Ocean Park Blvd. Santa Monica, CA  90405
"ANY COMMENTS OR STATEMENTS MADE ARE NOT NECESSARILY THOSE OF CITICORP, ITS SUBSIDIARIES
OR AFFILIATES." (Copyright 1995, ARR-permission to store/archive hereby granted)


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From: [e-mail] (charles copeland)
Subject: Need QRP mail list address
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest)
Date: Sun, 3 Dec 1995 00:59:02 GMT
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What is the address of the QRP mail list?

And how do I join.



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From: [e-mail] (crum)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Radio Shack HTX-202 "birdie" problem
Date: 6 Dec 1995 16:03:17 -0700
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Hi everyone, the manager of the Radio Shack service center in this area
(Salt Lake County, Utah) just told me that she will not do anything to
fix my new radio which always receives a noise signal on 146.76MHz -- that
is, is has a "birdie" there.  Does anyone else have experiences dealing
with Radio Shack to try and fix such a problem?


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From: Hilde Hofkens <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Radio Vlaanderen Internationaal on-line !?
Date: Wed, 06 Dec 1995 10:03:39 +0100
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Finally the day has come : the new Website of Radio Vlaanderen
Internationaal, BRTN's world service, is on line since December 1.
The old Website was refurnished and contains a wealth of information
on RVI, its 50th anniversary, programmes, reception, International
Listeners' Club and much more.
RVI also puts you on the way to a series of interesting Websites.
Information on our Website is available in six languages : Dutch,
French, German, English, Spanish and Arabic.

Shortly you will be able to read the RVI news on our Website, or
listen to it via Real Audio.

It is worth your while to call on
http://www.brtn.be/rvi/

For more information
[e-mail]


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From: [e-mail] (RJMARCHESE)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re  Power supply connector for Collins KWM-1
Date: 4 Dec 1995 05:35:45 -0500
Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364)
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I recently purchased a KWM-1 with power supply. However, the PS connector
was cut off. This is an unusual connector with many pin holes and two
small coax connectors in the middle. If you know where I could obtained
one please let me know. I would even consider purchasing another power
supply to get one. Any information would be appreciated.

Thank you,
Bob, K1NOK, Scituate,MA


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From: [e-mail] (Mike Anderson)
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Date: Sun, 03 Dec 1995 18:02:00 -0500
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n > My newsreader loaded 588 new posts for r.r.a.m. and it seemed that an
n >extremely high percentage were from Burt or related to one of Burt's
n >posts. I ran a simple search using "Burt" as the key word and 53 posts
n >(9%) had the key word either in the title or in the author's name. A
n >simple search using  "k1oik" as the keyword yielded four additional
n >posts. A total of 9.7% of the posts had one of the two keywords in the
n >title or author's name while 6.3% of the posts showed a key word in
n >the author's name. The searchs obviously do not include the numerous
n >responses to Mr Fisher's posts or responses to posts concerning Mr
n >Fisher's posts. I suggest renaming rec.radio.amateur.misc to
n >rec.radio.amateur.burt_fisher.

I posted a message in a similar vein a while back. My offline mail
reader had 11 new messages one day and five were from Burt. That
seemed excessive to me. Guess it's time to put ole 'Burt Fisher'
in the twit filter.                    Vy 73, Mike WA8JDW

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From: [e-mail] (James Dean)
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Perhaps Mr. Fisher should go back and read the last line in his sig, as
in,
>the less you say...................;>


-
  JAMES DEAN KD4USF  [e-mail]
  Yes that's really my name.




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Help, Is there a way to do this?

Michael


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From: [e-mail]
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Subject: Repeater Controllers - Advice Wanted.
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I'm interested in hearing comments  (good or bad) about currently available
repeater controllers.  I am considering products from Link (RLC2/3) and C3I
(Cat1000) to replace some controllers purchased in the mid 80's

Our repeater site can use a controller that could handle several repeaters
or links at once, with autopatch and options to cross-link the repeaters
for nets etc.

If you have information on these or other repeater controllers with mid to
high level features and performance please reply or drop me a note.

73  WB9MRI
Jerry


--
Jerry S. Weiss
[e-mail]
Danger, Programmer At Work


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From: [e-mail] (Leon D. Zetekoff)
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Subject: Re: Repeater Controllers - Advice Wanted.
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[e-mail] wrote:
:
: I'm interested in hearing comments  (good or bad) about currently available
: repeater controllers.  I am considering products from Link (RLC2/3) and C3I
: (Cat1000) to replace some controllers purchased in the mid 80's
:
: Our repeater site can use a controller that could handle several repeaters
: or links at once, with autopatch and options to cross-link the repeaters
: for nets etc.

Jerry - we've been using the Link COmm products and are happy with them.
We started with an RLC1 (2 port controller) and a RLC6 (3 port link
expander) and then migrated to an RLC4 with autopatch (4 port controller,
patch is one port).

They're pretty responsive to requests and helpful.

Leon WA4ZLW



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From: [e-mail] (David S. Curry KG2EB)
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Leon D. Zetekoff ([e-mail]) wrote:
: [e-mail] wrote:
: :
: : I'm interested in hearing comments  (good or bad) about currently available
: : repeater controllers.  I am considering products from Link (RLC2/3) and C3I
: : (Cat1000) to replace some controllers purchased in the mid 80's
: :
: : Our repeater site can use a controller that could handle several repeaters
: : or links at once, with autopatch and options to cross-link the repeaters
: : for nets etc.

: Jerry - we've been using the Link COmm products and are happy with them.
: We started with an RLC1 (2 port controller) and a RLC6 (3 port link
: expander) and then migrated to an RLC4 with autopatch (4 port controller,
: patch is one port).

: They're pretty responsive to requests and helpful.

: Leon WA4ZLW
        We have a Link 4 port here too, the nice thing about it is that the
updated software (new versions) is usually available by ftp, so then we
load it into the chip on board, otherwise you pay 70 bucks approx and replace
the chip.  Its good, we like it, we have autopatch, a couple repeaters linked
and all kinds of remote base stuff.

David KG2EB



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From: Chris Boone <[e-mail]>
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Your needs are pointing to LinkCom...contact them and get their
full catalog..

I own a ACC RC850 and now 2 RLC3s...the RLCs are getting close to
the 850 in some areas and have SURPASSED it in others (such as
linking capabilties)

Chris
(trustee of the Texas Rptr Network...444.8 Conroe/444.3
Houston/444.5 Beaumont-Port Arthur and 444.15 Dallas soon!..all
running RLC controllers)

--
Senior Telecommunications Technician    [e-mail]
ENTERGY/Gulf States Utilities           1:106/4267 FIDOnet
WB5ITT                                  PG-9-5322 FCC Commercial


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From: [e-mail] (Robert Dengler)
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Subject: Re: Repeaters masking tones
Date: 5 Dec 1995 22:11:14 GMT
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In <49qago$gs$[e-mail]>, Chris Boone <[e-mail]> writes:
>Jeff, your reply is incorrect....
>
>The ACC controller does NOT affect PL or subaudible tones...
>ONLY DTMF (Touch Tone) signals are muted by most repeater
>controllers (and NOT just ACC)..
>
>
>THE MAIN problem with PL thru a rptr is the audio path it takes..
>Mic inputs cannot pass PL for the most part and this is the most
>likely place a rptr ties its audio into....therefore the RPTR
>cannot retransmit the user's PL tone...
>
>73
>Chris
>(an ACC RC850 and LinkCom RLC3 owner)

Keep in mind that some controllers do not pass PL well without modification.
The LinkComm controllers use a input coupling capacitor that is too small to
pass most CTCSS tones properly.  On the other hand, the mic input on some
transmitters will actually pass PL OK; the problem is what happens to the PL
tone when it hits the limiter along with the rest of the repeat audio.  It
gets sufficiently attenuated via clipping that excessive talk-off occurs.

Bob



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I disagree! I have TWO RLC3 and one RLC2 in use right now..ALL
pass PL tones with no problems...

ANY Good controller will pass 60 Hz to 5 Khz with NO
degredation...my rptrs all use FLAT audio and I am sending
LinkCom a mod sheet on the mods needed to allow local audio
(autopatch, DVR, etc) to work on such a system...

My RC850 would pass PL with no problem also!

--
Senior Telecommunications Technician    [e-mail]
ENTERGY/Gulf States Utilities           1:106/4267 FIDOnet
WB5ITT                                  PG-9-5322 FCC Commercial


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From: [e-mail]
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: ReRe: Contesting
Date: Fri,  1 Dec 95 11:33:08 GMT
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In Article <49jb5h$[e-mail]>
Gareth Crispell <[e-mail]> writes:
>I guess I must be missing something here,but I fail to see how sitting on
>your butt for 10 hours and calling CQ contest is in any way,shape,or form
>an athletic endevour. Likewise, how can driving around in a car with a
>locator be considered an athletic event ???????
>
>N1MSV

Yep Gareth,

contesting IS a kind of sports event. Of course it differs from
a 100yard sprint during athletic competitions. There are many
other forms of more or less strange sports like chess, shooting,
fishing, car racing to name some popular ones. Contesting is not
popular and other people always consider those activities unknown
to them to be merely idiotic.

You need to be in good physical shape to perform well in a contest.
During last weekend's CQWW I didn't sit on my butt for 10 hours -
I sat there for 42 hours and I had fun!
But I think noone outside contesting will get this...

73! Uli, DL2HBX

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In article <4a383p$a74$[e-mail]>,
> I'm trying to find either an IC or a schematic for converting
> serial-parallel.

Brian,
Don't bother building one when you can buy one - about $90 from
Global Computer Supplies 800-845-6225.

Of course, a used serial printer at a hamfest would be cheaper than that.

Don N2IRZ



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From: [e-mail] (Larry DeSoto)
Subject: Re: Serial-to-Parallel Converter
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In article <4a383p$a74$[e-mail]>, Brian Webb <[e-mail]> writes:
> I'm trying to find either an IC or a schematic for converting
> serial-parallel.
>
> I own a solid state radioteletype decoder (circa 1980) designed
> to work with serial printers. However, my printer, like virtually
> all others is parallel.

You need a Universal Asynchronous Receiver Transmitter (UART).  One
entirely satisfactory device I've used is a Giant AY-1013.  This is
an old device and I don't know if they are still being manufactured.
If you can get one, it is easy to use in that it requires minimal
support (a clock and maybe a level converter for the serial line).

--
Larry                                 *************************
                                      *                       *
                                      *  Speaking for myself  *
                                      *                       *
                                      *************************


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From: Brian Webb <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: de.comm.ham,rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc,rec.radio.amateur.homebrew,rec.radio.amateur.misc,sci.electronics
Subject: Serial-to-Parallel Converter
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I'm trying to find either an IC or a schematic for converting
serial-parallel.

I own a solid state radioteletype decoder (circa 1980) designed
to work with serial printers. However, my printer, like virtually
all others is parallel.

Regards,

Brian Webb, KD6NRP


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From: [e-mail] (Rob Janssen)
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In <[e-mail]> Don Rotolo <[e-mail]> writes:


>In article <4a383p$a74$[e-mail]>,
>> I'm trying to find either an IC or a schematic for converting
>> serial-parallel.

>Brian,
>Don't bother building one when you can buy one - about $90 from
>Global Computer Supplies 800-845-6225.

Is this today's way of dealing with homebrewers?  I'm baffled...

Rob
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hello brian,

the harris HD6402 is what you need. Its easier to use than the
common AY devices. Baudrate is externally generated. The IC is
a serial/parallel converter and vice versa. Baudrates are up to
100kBaud. I use it to serialize the AD converter output of my meteosat
converter.

Try http://www.semi.harris.com to get a datasheet. The fax infothek
really works wordwide!

If you have futher questions drop me a note!

vy 73, Guenter, DL4MEA@DB0KCP.#BAY.DEU.EU   (AX.25)
                [e-mail]             (Internet)
                HTTP://WWW.SCN.DE/~KOELLNER (WWW)
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Brian Webb <[e-mail]> writes:

>I'm trying to find either an IC or a schematic for converting
>serial-parallel.

>I own a solid state radioteletype decoder (circa 1980) designed
>to work with serial printers. However, my printer, like virtually
>all others is parallel.

Practically none of the 'non CPU' UART chips that were so common in the 70s
and early 80s are available anymore.  You can get the same results with
many microcontrollers now, but that requires investment in tools and
programming hardware.

The easiest would be to buy a ready-made RS232 to centronics converter,
the way most favoured with the sci.electronics group would have to
be using a microcontroller.  Cheap too if you're not counting the hours.

Frank
--
"Mutual respect, even if we disagree."
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From: Charles Thompson <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: The good old hamdays.
Date: 2 Dec 1995 06:51:32 GMT
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To: Burt,Fisher<[e-mail]>

As a ham of 18 years I may be concidered young, that is air time not age.
But I have something to say about the new age...
    There is a time and a space for all hams,and I want to share it with
all.
    I use only Cw and am proud of my ablities in this mode but I am just
as happy to chat to some new ham on 2 meters.
    All I ask is that the hams new and old keep the band plan in mind, you
mind your space and I will mind mine...
    This is a hobby and not a hores race or I'm louder than you contest.
    So my fello hammers(new phrase) let us all enjoy the hobby that we
have choosen. 73s.



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Charles Thompson <[e-mail]> wrote:


>    This is a hobby and not a hores race or I'm louder than you contest.
                                               ^^^^^

>    So my fello hammers(new phrase) let us all enjoy the hobby that we

>have choosen. 73s.


Charles, I believe the correct spelling is "whores"..    :o>

Steve, wa2nhz




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From: Stephan M. Anderman <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: This Week in Amateur Radio #140 (for air through 12/8/95)
Date: Sat, 2 DEC 95 03:25:07 -0500
Organization: Delphi ([e-mail] email, 800-695-4005 voice)
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

Here is a summary of news items covered on edition #140 of
"This Week in Amateur Radio", North America's satellite-delivered
audio bulletin service, for the week ending 8-Dec:
-
1.   Massachusetts Enacts "PRB-1 Clone" to Protect Amateurs' Rights
2.   Merger of Major Equipment Manufacturer Won't Affect Ham Sales
3.   ARRL Announces Winner of Annual Hiram Percy Maxim Award
4.   Amateur Radio Mourns Loss of Two of its Most Notable Citizens
5.   "Gateway 160 Meter Net Report" with Vern Jackson, WA0RCR
6.   "This Week in Amateur Radio" to Temporarily Suspend Operations
7.   Upcoming Special Event Stations with George Bowen, N2LQS
8.   "Amateur Radio Newsline" - Edition #955 from Los Angeles
9.   "The RAIN Dial-up" from Chicago
10.  Weekly Propagation Forecast
-
Funding for the program's transmission and production expenses was
provided this week by a grant from the N6ICW Repeater Fund, of
Sacramento, California, which carries "This Week in Amateur Radio"
on the N6ICW repeaters in Sacramento, serving the Sacramento Valley
and San Francisco Bay area on 147.195 MHz, and in South Lake Tahoe,
serving Tahoe, Reno, and Carson City, Nevada on 145.15 MHz.
-
"This Week in Amateur Radio" is a weekly amateur voice bulletin
service, produced by Community Video Associates, Inc., a New York
State not-for-profit corporation based in Albany, NY.  The program
is heard each Saturday at 8:00 PM (EST) and carried on VHF/UHF
repeaters throughout North America and on 160 meters at 1860 kHz.
Contact your local amateur radio club or repeater operator if
"This Week in Amateur Radio" is not being heard in your area.
-
Due to the loss of satellite facilities, the service is being
temporarily suspended.  The "Tech Talk Network" expects to complete
negotiations with a new satellite uplink carrier by the beginning
of January.  "This Week in Amateur Radio" will return at that time.
Details will be posted as conditions warrant.  All affiliates are
requested to contact the producers for further information.
-
Production and transmission expenses are underwritten by donations
from repeater operators, amateur radio clubs, and individuals.
Further information is available from George Bowen, N2LQS, at
518/283-3665 (e-mail [e-mail]) or Stephan Anderman, WA3RKB,
at 518/664-6809 (e-mail [e-mail]).  You may also reach
them @ WA2UMX.FN32AW.ENY.NY.USA.NA via amateur packet.



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From: [e-mail] (Brian Ellsworth)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: TR-7950 Tx/Rx Mod Needed
Date: Sun, 03 Dec 1995 12:08:35 GMT
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On 1 Dec 1995 12:09:17 GMT, [e-mail] (nunnya) wrote:

>Gee, since the display doesnt even show the first two digits of the
>frequency, wouldnt it make sense to you that YOU CANT!
>
Of course what the display will or will not show has nothing to do
with what frequency the radio will cover.


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From: [e-mail] (nunnya)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: TR-7950 Tx/Rx Mod Needed
Date: 4 Dec 1995 14:36:15 GMT
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Brian Ellsworth ([e-mail]) wrote:
: On 1 Dec 1995 12:09:17 GMT, [e-mail] (nunnya) wrote:

: >Gee, since the display doesnt even show the first two digits of the
: >frequency, wouldnt it make sense to you that YOU CANT!
: >
: Of course what the display will or will not show has nothing to do
: with what frequency the radio will cover.
*** What are you fucking nuts? pretty hard to get a radio that goes from
142-148.995 and the display shows 2.00 to 8.995 to go out of band now
isnt it? of course unless your a fricking psychic and just happin to know
what freq is before it......duhhhhhhh



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From: [e-mail] (Brian Ellsworth)
Subject: Re: TR-7950 Tx/Rx Mod Needed
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[e-mail] (nunnya) wrote:

>Brian Ellsworth ([e-mail]) wrote:
>: On 1 Dec 1995 12:09:17 GMT, [e-mail] (nunnya) wrote:
>
>: >Gee, since the display doesnt even show the first two digits of the
>: >frequency, wouldnt it make sense to you that YOU CANT!
>: >
>: Of course what the display will or will not show has nothing to do
>: with what frequency the radio will cover.
>*** What are you ***** nuts? pretty hard to get a radio that goes from
>142-148.995 and the display shows 2.00 to 8.995 to go out of band now
>isnt it? of course unless your a fricking psychic and just happin to know
>what freq is before it......duhhhhhhh
>
I'm not sure if the 7950 can easily be setup for out of band
operation. I am sure it CAN be, one way or another. In fact since
you've made such a big issue of this i'll see if i can find the
schematics around and take a look.

You are apparently ignorant technically. That's ok, everyone
starts someplace. If you behave yourself someone might even help
you to understand how the radio works.

-be



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From: [e-mail] (Norm Collins)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: TV Audio Reception
Date: 8 Dec 1995 16:38:38 GMT
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I have a ICOM R7000 and have noticed that there is quite a bit of
distortion when listening to TV audio signals.  Placing the radio in the
FM (wide) position and attenuating the signal doesn't seem to help.
I've heard better audio from $30 AM/FM/TV portables....

Any comments or suggestions?

Regards

Norm


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From: Dennis J Ponsness <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: VHF Meteor/Contest Skeds
Date: 7 Dec 1995 12:38:48 GMT
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Is there a newsgroup that ops can access to either make and/or request schedules for skeds on the
VHF bands?  Too bad that the "liason frequency"is ⁿnavailable"to a large segment of the VHF weak
signal crowd, i.e. 3818 kHz. There has to be an alternative!!!!!!!

Dennis WB0WAO EN84ij



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From: [e-mail] (Ed Fortmiller)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Way to open Icom BP-84/83 battery packs???
Date: Thu, 07 Dec 1995 09:29:39 -0500
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I have two Icom BP-84 and one BP-83 battery packs which are
dead. Anyone know of a way to nicely open these type of packs?
I believe I could at least make use of the BP-84 to stuff AAs
in if I could open it.  I╣m aware of and own the BP-90 which you
can stuff yourself.

--
Ed Fortmiller | Hudson MA | [e-mail]


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From: [e-mail] (John Rice)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Way to open Icom BP-84/83 battery packs???
Date: 7 Dec 95 12:40:39 CDT
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In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Ed Fortmiller) writes:
> I have two Icom BP-84 and one BP-83 battery packs which are
> dead. Anyone know of a way to nicely open these type of packs?
> I believe I could at least make use of the BP-84 to stuff AAs
> in if I could open it.  I╣m aware of and own the BP-90 which you
> can stuff yourself.

It's possible to obtain replacement nicad 'cells' for the BP battery
packs, at 'significantly' less cost than the cost of an entire 'new'
pack from Icom. . Look in the back of any ham magazine for an ad from
'Mr Nicad' in wisconsin.

Thought the packs came apart with a coupla screws (or am I remembering
the wrong 'pack') ?


--------

   John Rice -  K9IJ       | "I speak for myself, not my employer".
   [e-mail]         |  Miracles, Magic and Sleight-of-hand done here.
   [e-mail]          |  Licensed since 1959
   (708)-438-5065 - (bbs ) |  Ex: K8YZR, KH6GHC, WB9CSP, W9MMB, WA1TXV



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From: Curtis Wheeler <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: What radars on 900 MHz ?
Date: 4 Dec 1995 04:12:53 GMT
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[e-mail] (Bob Wilkins n6fri) wrote:
>Bruce W. Forsberg ([e-mail]) recently wrote
>               in <[e-mail]>:
>
>: We are having problems locally in San Diego with our ATV repeater on
>: the 900 Mhz band. The input is being torn up by radar. I was wondering
>: if anyone knows what radars are present on the 900 MHz band. We are
>: guessing that it is some sort of Navy radar. Possibily ship based. If
>: anyone has any ideas they would be appreciated. The scan rate on the
>: radar is about 5 seconds with a PRI of about 5 ms.
>
>You are probably seeing a Part 15 data network. They are operating at one
>watt using spread spectrum. Many of these data transmitters are on pole
>tops or buildings. You might be experiancing the primary user of our 902
>band, the automatic vehicle locating service. Pacific Teletrac operates
>high power wide band digital data from multiple mtn tops to track fleets
>of vehicles all over southern California.

Vehicle locating systems, and all of the unlicensed part 15 systems and
amateurs all secondary users of 902 to 928.  The government is THE
primary user.  High powered, airborne radiolocation is a common
government use for this spectrum.  The secondary users have to live with
any interference, and not cause any to the primary user.

Military radar is just something you have to deal with on 900.



--
Curtis Wheeler - Pleasanton, CA




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From: Scot Harkins <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: Words to the alphabet...
Date: 7 Dec 1995 20:57:57 GMT
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Greetings!

Found what I was looking for via ARRL's ftp listing, on hamfaq2.txt.

73's
Scot

--
Scot Harkins (KA5KDU)  | Systems Administrator, Thurman Industries, Bothell, WA
Renton, WA             | Native Texan.  Proud daddy and husband!
[e-mail]     | SCA: Ld. Scot MacFin, herald at large, An Tir
[e-mail]          | Hmmm....  Not sure what witty thing to put here.




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From: Karl Sorge <[e-mail]>
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Is it possoble to enter the internet via radio? and how. and wher can I
find infos? DL3BAC




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From: [e-mail] (Daniel Senie)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: *** Need source for Heath's Most Accurate Clock ***
Date: 9 Dec 1995 04:32:17 GMT
Organization: Daniel Senie Consulting
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Has anyone actually seen a Heath catalog in the last year, seen an advert,
etc.? They were selling consumer electronics stuffs last time I got a
catalog, but I recently went looking for them on Compuserve, where they
had a service, and they were gone. I thought about it and I haven't
seen a catalog either. I am looking at weather monitoring gear, and they
had some in the last catalog I saw (even some kits were left of these)
but nothing recently.

does anyone have an 800 number or other info?

Dan
--
---------------------------------------------------------------
Daniel Senie                 Internet:     [e-mail],
Daniel Senie Consulting                    [e-mail]
http://www.senie.com         Packet Radio: [e-mail]


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From: [e-mail](Jim Sheffield)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: 1996 Dayton Hamvention
Date: 11 Dec 1995 02:21:08 GMT
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Hello fellow hams:

I am planning to attend the big event for the
first time - the 1996 Dayton Hamvention.
Can anyone help with information?  Such as
dates, costs, where it is located, where to
preregister, where to stay, etc.

It will be a long way to go, is it worth it?  I am
especially interested in the swap events and
getting some older HF equipment.

Any help would be appreciated.  73 de Jim, KB7ET
[e-mail]


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From: Mike Whatley <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: 3.88 mhz and Steve wa2nhz
Date: 11 Dec 1995 00:53:26 GMT
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This kid Drew is a KF4 - new ham who doesn't really know anything
about the hobby.

He does like to bitch though. Yuk, Yuk.

mike wa4d

--
Mike Whatley


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From: [e-mail] (Bryan King)
Subject: Re: 3.88 MHz sounded like CB tonight.  Yuck
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
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I have to agree, 75 meters has degraded considerably in the past few
years to the point where its embarrasing to admit its a ham band at all.
Many evenings I hear a bunch of guys hopping around the frequencies and
intentionally interfering with other stations and not identifying
themselves by callsign at anytime. Their interference is malicious and
insulting and includes alot of off color comments, language, sounds and
music.  It is a complete lack of respect for fellow hams and for the FCC
regulations and nothing seems to be done about it ever!  They seem to
act as though they own 75 meters and will drive everyone else off the
band.

I suspect these guys are running the legal limit, or even over as their
signals are quite loud.  Judging by their accents and general comments
about the weather, regional events, or places, I suspect they all come
from one region of the United States.



Bryan


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From: [e-mail] (Michael P. Deignan)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: 3.88 MHz sounded like CB tonight.  Yuck
Date: 11 Dec 1995 17:29:56 -0500
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In article <[e-mail]>, Bryan King <[e-mail]> wrote:

>Many evenings I hear a bunch of guys hopping around the frequencies and
>intentionally interfering with other stations and not identifying
>themselves by callsign at anytime. Their interference is malicious and
>insulting and includes alot of off color comments, language, sounds and
>music.  It is a complete lack of respect for fellow hams and for the FCC
>regulations and nothing seems to be done about it ever!

You're assuming that the people causing the problems are ham operators
and not simply people who own an HF radio.

MD
--
--
-- "Who needs looks when you've got taste?"
--


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From: [e-mail] (Bud Mortenson)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: 430S intermittent
Date: Mon, 11 Dec 1995 01:56:58 -0800
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I have a Kenwood TS-430S that's sick. Symptoms are:

An intermittent cut-out of audio (the band just goes dead -- noise only).
However, if I tune across the band, and there's a loud station, the receiver
seems to come back to life suddenly and stays that way for a while. I have
checked the squelch and RF gain controls -- they're fine.

Does anyone know if this is a problem that's arisen with 430Ss? How about
a quick-fix suggestion (I am handy with a soldering iron, but I'd like
advice from someone who's run into this previously, before I go poking around
in under the hood).

My suspicions include: a sticky band-switching relay (which look really hard
to get at at the back of the rig). What's the 10-minute repair for that?
OR: a cold solder joint somewhere. Yikes!

My concerns include: would this problem also occur during XMIT? (I think it
is happening during transmit).

Any help/suggestions would be appreciated.


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Subject: Re: 430S intermittent
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In article <[e-mail]>,
Bud Mortenson <[e-mail]> wrote:
>I have a Kenwood TS-430S that's sick. Symptoms are:
>
>An intermittent cut-out of audio (the band just goes dead -- noise only).
>However, if I tune across the band, and there's a loud station, the receiver
>seems to come back to life suddenly and stays that way for a while. I have
>checked the squelch and RF gain controls -- they're fine.
>
>Does anyone know if this is a problem that's arisen with 430Ss? How about
>a quick-fix suggestion (I am handy with a soldering iron, but I'd like
>advice from someone who's run into this previously, before I go poking around
>in under the hood).
>
>My suspicions include: a sticky band-switching relay (which look really hard
>to get at at the back of the rig). What's the 10-minute repair for that?
>OR: a cold solder joint somewhere. Yikes!
>
>My concerns include: would this problem also occur during XMIT? (I think it
>is happening during transmit).
>
>Any help/suggestions would be appreciated.

A couple of suggestions
  Relays may be a cause. It helps to periodically cycle through
all the bands to exercise the contacts - expecially if you tend
to operate mostly on one band.
  One of the jacks on the rear is also the transverter switch
(forget the ID - I no longer have a 430). This contact can be
exercised as well by plugging and unplugging.
  General help for many of this vintage radios  Tighten screws
that hold PC boards to chassis. Carefully unplug and replug each
of the small connectors to the boards.
73
John
--
John Siegel
[e-mail]


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From: [e-mail] (Stephan Rashkin)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: 430S intermittent
Date: Tue, 12 Dec 1995 00:33:22 GMT
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[e-mail] (Bud Mortenson) wrote:

>I have a Kenwood TS-430S that's sick. Symptoms are:

>An intermittent cut-out of audio (the band just goes dead -- noise only).
>However, if I tune across the band, and there's a loud station, the receiver
>seems to come back to life suddenly and stays that way for a while. I have
>checked the squelch and RF gain controls -- they're fine.

>Does anyone know if this is a problem that's arisen with 430Ss? How about
>a quick-fix suggestion (I am handy with a soldering iron, but I'd like
>advice from someone who's run into this previously, before I go poking around
>in under the hood).

>My suspicions include: a sticky band-switching relay (which look really hard
>to get at at the back of the rig). What's the 10-minute repair for that?
>OR: a cold solder joint somewhere. Yikes!

>My concerns include: would this problem also occur during XMIT? (I think it
>is happening during transmit).

>Any help/suggestions would be appreciated.


Hi Bud,
A number of years back Kenwood finally came out with an official
mod to keep the contacts on the relays clean..It involved only a
few components that takes about 1/2 hour to complete..I don't
remember the number of the service note, but I did install it..It
was free at the time..call them and request it...

my 430 had the same symptoms as yours and it fixed it completely..
now I have a pll problem where the radio doesn't display or rx
till it gets above 70 degrees...I might get into it over the Xmas
holidays...good luck

Steve, Wa2nhz




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From: [e-mail] (Bob Dillon)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Alaskan Time Zones (Query)
Date: 10 Dec 1995 23:58:45 -0500
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I guess this group is the most logical of the news groups I follow to ask
this.  I've found some contradictory information in various sources I have
for Alaskan time zones.  The 1979 Time/Life Almanac indicates Juneau
standard time is 8 hours behind UTC, and Anchorage is 10, whereas the 1994
Aircraft Owners and Pilots Association manual says all of Alaska is 9
hours behind UTC.  I do seem to remember setting my watch back on a 1989
Alaskan cruise to S.E. Alaska.  Is all of Alaska (except for the
Aleutians) on the same time?  Is that a change from the 1970s?  Just
curious.  Perhaps e-mail responses would save bandwidth (I'm probably the
only yokel that's curious).

Thanks,

Bob WB9LTN  <[e-mail]>




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From: [e-mail] (Richard Freeman)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Another MFJ control shaft broken - mfj.jpg (0/1)
Date: Mon, 11 Dec 1995 16:37:34 GMT
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Is there anyone else who has had the shaft of their antenna tuner
break.  I have a MfJ Differential T Tuner Mod. 986, and the shaft from
the roller inductor broke at the race where the bearing go.  I was
wondering if this was an isolated event or is it the reason they
changed the design of this part.  I have included an attachment with a
picture of the break.  Please Email me at [e-mail].
73,
-Richard, KB6CEA


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Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Anyone work w/ RADAR ?
Lines: 12



I'd like to hear from anyone with knowledge and experience
of aircraft RADAR systems just for an overview of their operation.
Please reply by e-mail.

Thanks..Hugh  [e-mail]



---
 ■ NFX v1.3 [000]


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From: [e-mail] (Richard Lubash)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Appropriate Place for Help Wanted???
Date: 13 Dec 1995 11:44:02 GMT
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As the technical editor of 73 Magazine I will from time to time be
looking for help with articles, technical drawings and product reviews.
Since these will be payed by the job positions I was wondering if it
would be proper netiquite to post these notices here?

Richard Lubash
Technical Editor
73 Amateur Radio Today
[e-mail]


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Newsgroups: rec.radio.info,rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: ARLB109 FCC Vanity Call Sign
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SB QST @ ARL $ARLB109
ARLB109 FCC Vanity Call Sign

ZCZC AG76
QST de W1AW
ARRL Bulletin 109  ARLB109
From ARRL Headquarters
Newington CT  December 8, 1995
To all radio amateurs

SB QST ARL ARLB109
ARLB109 FCC Vanity Call Sign

FCC Vanity Call Sign Application Form 610V is Now Available

FCC vanity call sign application Form 610V is now available, but the
FCC is not yet accepting completed forms for filing.

In response to requests by radio amateurs, the ARRL has mailed 9000
copies of the form. If you requested one from the ARRL and do not
receive it by December 16, call 860-594-0300.

The FCC is expected to announce opening dates for the first vanity
call sign filing gate in early 1996. You can obtain FCC Form 610V
(along with FCC form 1070V and FCC vanity call sign information fact
sheet PR 9000, number 206v) by writing ARRL, 225 Main Street,
Newington, CT 06111. Please include an sase.

Form 610v also is available from the FCC via the internet at
http://www.fcc.gov/Forms/Form610V or
ftp://ftp.fcc.gov/pub/Forms/Form610V/, or by fax at 202-418-0177. Ask
for Form 006108.

The FCC Forms Distribution Center will accept orders in about one
month. Call 800-418-3676.
NNNN
/EX


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Subject: ARLB110 Nominations Open
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SB QST @ ARL $ARLB110
ARLB110 Nominations Open

ZCZC AG77
QST de W1AW
ARRL Bulletin 110  ARLB110
From ARRL Headquarters
Newington CT  December 8, 1995
To all radio amateurs

SB QST ARL ARLB110
ARLB110 Nominations Open

Nominations for the ARRL Instructor of the Year awards are due to
ARRL Section Managers by January 31, 1996.

Each year, the ARRL Board of Directors selects recipients for each
of four award categories.  The ARRL Herb S. Brier Instructor of the
Year Award is presented to a nonpaid volunteer instructor.  The Herb
S. Brier award is co-sponsored by the Lake County, Indiana, Amateur
Radio Club.  The ARRL Professional Instructor of the Year Award is
presented to a paid, professional teacher.  The ARRL Professional
Educator of the Year Award is presented to a paid, but not
certified, instructor.  The ARRL Excellence in Recruiting Award is
presented to someone who recruits more than teaches.

Section Managers forward nominations to the Educational Activities
Department at ARRL, and EAD will send details to nominees about how
to compete for the awards.  See QST for your Section Manager's name
and address.
NNNN
/EX


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Subject: ARLP051 Propagation de KT7H
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SB PROP @ ARL $ARLP051
ARLP051 Propagation de KT7H

ZCZC AP20
QST de W1AW
Propagation Forecast Bulletin 51  ARLP051
From Tad Cook, KT7H
Seattle, WA  December 8, 1995
To all radio amateurs

SB PROP ARL ARLP051
ARLP051 Propagation de KT7H

Solar activity was up very slightly last week when compared to the
week previous.  Solar flux below the average for the previous 90
days on every day through the week.  Geomagnetic conditions have
been stable, with the December 4 the most active day.  K indices
were as high as five and the A index was 16.  Otherwise most days
have had K indices of zero and one.

Conditions are expected to remain about the same, with solar flux in
the low seventies and low geomagnetic activity.  A recurring coronal
hole is expected to cause a mild upset around December 26 and again
around December 31, but the A index is expected to remain below 20
on both days.

Next week will be the last propagation bulletin for the year,
because the author will be vacationing in Brazil until January 3.

Sunspot Numbers for November 30 through December 6 were 17, 16, 16,
23, 22, 22 and 15, with a mean of 18.7.  10.7 cm flux was 74.3,
72.7, 73.3, 73.3, 72.8, 73.6 and 74, with a mean of 73.4.
NNNN
/EX


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From: [e-mail] (Robert Moldenhauer)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Articles fo local ham newsletter
Date: 12 Dec 1995 21:01:11 GMT
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Hi,

I'm the editor for a local ham newsletter herer in Madison, Wisc. USA.  I'm
looking for good articles to pass on to 200+ hams in the area.  Informative
and funny articles always appreciated.

Thanks.



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From: [e-mail] (Stephan Rashkin)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Austin Amateur Radio Suppy
Date: Sun, 10 Dec 1995 08:44:26 GMT
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[e-mail] wrote:

>==========================================================================

>LE> me.
>LE> I know me. If they would have shown us this radio today, I'd have a new
>LE> Yaesu beside me now and would not have the time to write a flame at all. I
>LE> was as disgusted when I left there today as I have been in a long time.
>LE> It's not a big thing, I know but it really got to me.

I'm just curious, but could all this bad service be coming from a
particular salesperson at Austin?

I've never had any business with these people, but has anyone sent the
management complaints? Do they have a web site that can receive
feedback? Do they know this thread is even going on? Maybe someone
should collect all this info and send it to the management as it's
posted (with authors permission) or at the end of the month..
The management could be clueless about what is going on..

Steve, WA2NHZ





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Date: Mon, 11 Dec 1995 18:48:09 -0800
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On Mon, 4 Dec 1995, Jim Weir wrote:

>
> I can't argue with the article on AARS because I've never BEEN to
> Austin, much less shopped there.
>
> However, AES down in Las Vegas has a person on staff named Squeak who
> for my money is the sharpest, easiest to get along with ham radio
> sales person I've ever had the pleasure of dealing with.  If you have
> a question that Squeak can't answer, you've got yourself one hell of a
> question.
>
> Jim

I second that. I've bought a lot of stuff from the Las Vegas AES and
they`ve been very helpful and curtious.

Kory
KE6VWO



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From: Lewis Berman <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Autopatch
Date: 11 Dec 1995 08:06:27 GMT
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Does anyone know where I can find a circuit for a telephone "busy tone"
decoder? My autopatch is not terminating upon receiving a busy tone.
Thanks



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From: [e-mail] (Peter Laws)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Best repeater controller under US$150
Date: 13 Dec 1995 04:52:57 GMT
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We're looking for a repeater controller.  There are several on the market
that fit our criteria, but we're looking for actual experiences.  The
criteria are (decreasing level of importance!)::

1) Less than US$150 ("Please Sir, we're poor students.")

2) must be expandable (provision for addition of DVID, links to other
repeaters and/or links to remote receivers)

3) phone patch would be nice.

Responses here or via email OK.

73,
Peter Laws,  N5UWY - V31WY

Public Information Officer,
Club Historian,
Amateur Radio Club,
University of Arkansas / W5YM
WWW: http://www.uark.edu/studorg/w5ym/   <-- check us out!



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From: [e-mail] (James A Doty)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Celebrity hams
Date: 10 Dec 1995 10:12:09 GMT
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nunnya ([e-mail]) wrote:

> I had a feeling that this was more of BURTS WORTHLESS BS!!!!
> So I decided to run one and only on call to confirm, and I picked the
> WIFE of Elvis, which burt claims is N6YOS, well that comes back to a
> Lou Lou, last i checked her name was priscilla. So before you go
> believing anything burrty has to say, double check this BS'ers info
> jeff
> aa7up
I guess it pays to look things up for yourself.

I didn't bother to check the call, but the last I heard Joe Walsch is
a ham.  I don't recall right off the top of my head where I heard that
info though.

James A. Doty
KI7EL



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From: [e-mail] (nunnya)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Celebrity hams
Date: 10 Dec 1995 03:27:51 GMT
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Burt Fisher ([e-mail]) wrote:

: I do not argue with hams, I play with them because they are so mucg\h fun to
: PLAY with.

The only HAM you ever play with is yourself, and you really should stop
that  I don't think your mom likes it. Maybe if you didn't do it in her
bedroom she would allow it.
jeff
aa7up



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Subject: Re: Celebrity hams
Date: 10 Dec 1995 11:56:09 GMT
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[e-mail] (nunnya) wrote:
>Burt Fisher ([e-mail]) wrote:
>
>: I do not argue with hams, I play with them because they are so much fun to
>: PLAY with.
>
>The only HAM you ever play with is yourself, and you really should stop
>that  I don't think your mom likes it. Maybe if you didn't do it in her
>bedroom she would allow it.
>jeff
>aa7up

I never cease to be amazed how people try to judge me based on the way they
handle (pun intended) things. I really have to give you a hand.


#================#=====================================================#
|  Burt Fisher   |  Teacher of video, broadcasting and electronics     |
| Amateur call   |         South Dennis, Ma. (Cape Cod)                |
|    K1OIK       |  The less you say, the more people will remember    |
#================#=====================================================#
|                            [e-mail]                          |
#======================================================================#

I never make the mistake of arguing with people for whose opinions I have no
respect.
Edward Gibbon




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From: [e-mail] (charles copeland)
Subject: Re: Celebrity hams
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest)
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Date: Sun, 10 Dec 1995 17:38:46 GMT
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Sender: [e-mail]

In article <4aebpp$[e-mail]>, James A Doty <[e-mail]> wrote:
>nunnya ([e-mail]) wrote:
>
>> I had a feeling that this was more of BURTS WORTHLESS BS!!!!
>> So I decided to run one and only on call to confirm, and I picked the
>> WIFE of Elvis, which burt claims is N6YOS, well that comes back to a
>> Lou Lou, last i checked her name was priscilla. So before you go
>> believing anything burrty has to say, double check this BS'ers info
>> jeff
>> aa7up
>I guess it pays to look things up for yourself.
>
>I didn't bother to check the call, but the last I heard Joe Walsch is
>a ham.  I don't recall right off the top of my head where I heard that
>info though.

I talked with a HAM who actually talked to Joe Walsh in CW.
Found out later who it was. He was excited.



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Date: 10 Dec 1995 21:52:00 +0200
From: [e-mail] (Wolf Harranth)
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A few comments from QSL COLLECTION which maintains a special "celebrities"
file:
was ever licensed.
UA1LO confirmed by official russian sources.
> Royalty
Add: JY2 Moona, second wife of King Hussein
     JY2HT Crown Prince El Hassan Bin Talal, Jordan
     JY3RZ Prince Ra'ad, Jordan
     HZ1TA Prince Talal Bin Abdel Aziz al Saud, Saudi-Arabia
     HZ1SH Prince Faisal Bin Mishaal Al Saud, Saudi-Arabia
     AC3PT P.T.Namgyal, former King, Sikkim
     OE3AH/OE5AH/YR5AH Anton Habsburg, former Arch-Duke of Austria

> Writers/Authors
> Walter Cronkite, KB2GSD, (1916- ), Network News Anchorman - CBS (retired)
Qouting from his letter to QSL COLLECTION, May 11,1994:
"I obtained my amateur radio license primarily for use at sea and, to my
regret, I have not had time to participate in the usual ham activities. As
a consequence, I do not have a QSL card and my land.based station is not
now functional."

If you want to learn more about QSL COLLECTION, an international
foundation and the world's largest collection of its kind, send e-mail to
[e-mail] or have a look at the QSL section in
http://www.ping.at/rai/

73 de Wolf

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From Unknown Wed Dec 13 15:37:13 1995
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From: Burt Fisher <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Celebrity hams
Date: 9 Dec 1995 23:24:00 GMT
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[e-mail] (Are Barstad) wrote:

>>I never make the mistake of arguing with people for whose opinions I have
>>no respect.
>
>I see... Sounds too me you must respect hams more than anyone.

I do not argue with hams, I play with them because they are so mucg\h fun to
PLAY with.



>>..-.   --- ..-.  ..-.
>
>Impressive Burt, very impressive - did you look it up in your Beaver book or
>did you pay your VE a few _more_ bucks to copy his notes.

No, I just thought of you.


#================#=====================================================#
|  Burt Fisher   |  Teacher of video, broadcasting and electronics     |
| Amateur call   |         South Dennis, Ma. (Cape Cod)                |
|    K1OIK       |  The less you say, the more people will remember    |
#================#=====================================================#
|                            [e-mail]                          |
#======================================================================#

I never make the mistake of arguing with people for whose opinions I have no
respect.
Edward Gibbon




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From: Mike Whatley <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Celebrity hams
Date: 11 Dec 1995 00:55:43 GMT
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I used to talk to Joe Walsh frequently during the mid-80's on 75
mtrs. One night in a discussion I mentioned that I only enjoyed
RoseWood Bitters as opposed to fawning all over the guy like most
hams. He got pissed because a group of us didn't suck up to him and
left. Never came back.

Great singer/writer. But thin-skinned.

mike wa4d

--
Mike Whatley


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Mike Whatley <[e-mail]> wrote:
>
>I used to talk to Joe Walsh frequently during the mid-80's on 75
>mtrs. One night in a discussion I mentioned that I only enjoyed
>RoseWood Bitters as opposed to fawning all over the guy like most
>hams. He got pissed because a group of us didn't suck up to him and
>left. Never came back.
>
>Great singer/writer. But thin-skinned.
>
>mike wa4d
**************8

B.S.!!!!!!!!!!!



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 [e-mail] (James A Doty) writes:
>nunnya ([e-mail]) wrote:
>
>> I had a feeling that this was more of BURTS WORTHLESS BS!!!!
>> So I decided to run one and only on call to confirm, and I picked the
>> WIFE of Elvis, which burt claims is N6YOS, well that comes back to a
>> Lou Lou, last i checked her name was priscilla. So before you go
>> believing anything burrty has to say, double check this BS'ers info
>> jeff
>> aa7up
>I guess it pays to look things up for yourself.
>
>I didn't bother to check the call, but the last I heard Joe Walsch is
>a ham.  I don't recall right off the top of my head where I heard that
>info though.
>
>James A. Doty
>KI7EL
>


    Oh Gee, oh golly, oh wow!!!  Check this one out:



N6YOS
Tech Plus
(Previously KC6IWA, Novice)
Lou Lou Beaulieu
POB 2841
Beverly Hills, CA 90213

N6YOM
Tech Plus
(Previously KC6IVO, Novice)
Em Gee
POB 2841
Beverly Hills, CA 90213


Funny, Isn't it? If Priscilla Presley IS using an alias, then this is proof that
Elvis is still alive!!!  How's that sound Weekly World News?

73 de WA3RVT, Steve


P.S. Joe Walsh's bus broke down on I-95 one night and he put out a call
on our local repeater. One of our members drove over to help him and
found out who he was. By the way, he has an old song that has "real"
Morse code in it. ("Radio Waves?")



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From: [e-mail] (Scott)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Code? Just my 2 cents...
Date: Thu, 07 Dec 1995 21:27:48 GMT
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     I'm 30 years old now and have always been interested in getting a
license. I just never got around to it I guess. When I was 16, I built
a Heathkit receiver and spent many hours listening to people all over
the world. But, I was a lazy teenager and I guess the code and theory
was mainly what kept me from getting into Ham full force.

     My dad has had his General Class since before I was born. One
thing I aquired from him and from my inability to get on the air, was
a tremendous respect for the hobby and for the people who took the
time to study.

     I plan on taking my first exam in January, I will not go for the
no code tech exam. To do so, I feel discredits the real hams out
there. Thats the philosophical reason though.  The practical reasoning
falls within what I feel is a real threat of SW becomming a CB like
environment. I've hear both sides and both have valid points, but for
me, you can chalk up one vote for the old timers. I would hope that
means more to you coming from someone who is still stumbling over the
code!

Now let the flames begin....  :)



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From: [e-mail] (Stephan Rashkin)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Code? Just my 2 cents...
Date: Sat, 09 Dec 1995 01:35:25 GMT
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[e-mail] (Scott) wrote:

>     I'm 30 years old now and have always been interested in getting a
>license. I just never got around to it I guess. When I was 16, I built
>a Heathkit receiver and spent many hours listening to people all over
>the world. But, I was a lazy teenager and I guess the code and theory
>was mainly what kept me from getting into Ham full force.

>     My dad has had his General Class since before I was born. One
>thing I aquired from him and from my inability to get on the air, was
>a tremendous respect for the hobby and for the people who took the
>time to study.

>     I plan on taking my first exam in January, I will not go for the
>no code tech exam. To do so, I feel discredits the real hams out
>there. Thats the philosophical reason though.  The practical reasoning
>falls within what I feel is a real threat of SW becomming a CB like
>environment. I've hear both sides and both have valid points, but for
>me, you can chalk up one vote for the old timers. I would hope that
>means more to you coming from someone who is still stumbling over the
>code!

>Now let the flames begin....  :)

Yeah, but ya know Scott...by the way you sound I bet ya in a couple
years you'll be proficient with CW even though you might not
routinely use it..it's your attitude and feeling for the standards of
amateur radio that will both make you and ham radio successful, and
not parallel to CB. Once you get your first ticket I think, based on
your comments, you will want to go on..you seem to have respect
for the institution, not just the "ultra liberal" mindset that the
world is my welfare check...

Steve, WA2NHZ




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From: [e-mail] (Dave Jarrell)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Code? Just my 2 cents...
Date: Sun, 10 Dec 95 17:39:41 GMT
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>Yeah, but ya know Scott...by the way you sound I bet ya in a couple
>years you'll be proficient with CW even though you might not
>routinely use it..it's your attitude and feeling for the standards of
>amateur radio that will both make you and ham radio successful, and
>not parallel to CB. Once you get your first ticket I think, based on
>your comments, you will want to go on..you seem to have respect
>for the institution, not just the "ultra liberal" mindset that the
>world is my welfare check...
>
>Steve, WA2NHZ
>
=====================
I absolutelly concur.  Both comments are very well stated.  The "code" may
well be an obsolete form of communication but it is an obstacle that
someone will happily leap if they want the license bad enough.  Those who
want it badly enough usually bring something with them to the hobby and
make it a better fraternity.  I don't intend to categorize all non-code
hams.  The old addage "you get what you pay for" has never been more
applicable than it is today.  When you work for something, you appreciate
it more and you project your "pride in belonging".  People having that
pride will contribute to the hobby and make it better for all of us and
more attractive to those would-be hams preparing to make the plunge.



       From the Desk of:

         Dave Jarrell
Amateur Radio Station - AH6OB
         Honolulu, HI

  E-mail:  [e-mail]



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From: [e-mail]   (Bill Newkirk)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Code? Just my 2 cents...
Date: 13 Dec 1995 04:37:14 GMT
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In <4a7m9s$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Scott) writes:
>     I plan on taking my first exam in January, I will not go for the
>no code tech exam. To do so, I feel discredits the real hams out

y'know, it'd serve you right if you passed 2, 3a, 3b and then failed code
so you'd be issued a tech license anyway.  with the typical processing we do
here, most new folks have time to do the writtens before the code group is
ready for the slow code folks...

if you get the license and operate your station properly and learn about
electronics and radio..you're pretty much doing everything expected of a
"real ham".

Bill Newkirk WB9IVR                  The Space Coast Amateur Technical Group
Melbourne, FL                       duty now for the future of amateur radio
Lombardi's 1st Law of Business:
Companies succeed in spite of their best effort.  If they succeed at all.



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From: [e-mail] (RON AB6ZX)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Contest Software
Date: 10 Dec 1995 21:44:04 -0500
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Try the ARRL BBS and download LOG405.ZIP. Excellent software for the price
since it is a full shareware version rather than the demo that most
individuals post. Includes full documentation but you will need a viewer
or Microsoft word to review. I tried it during the CW SS but found I had
severe monitor emissions that forced me to go back to hand logging.

73
Ron
AB6ZX
Chico CA


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From: [e-mail] (Dave Bushong)
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Subject: Re: Contest Software
Date: 11 Dec 1995 23:43:19 GMT
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In article <4ag5tk$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] says...
>[regarding logging programs] I tried it during the CW SS but found I had
>severe monitor emissions that forced me to go back to hand logging.

Hi Ron,

What have you done to fix the monitor emissions?  Now that the contest is
over, maybe you could get one of these no-code proponents who know everything
(except code) to help you.  They seem to know a lot about non-CW ham stuff.

Seriously, though, have you addressed the problem?  I'vr had some limited
success fixing a similar problem here, "limited" being the key word.  I still
have the main bang at every mHz kinda bugging me, especially during S0 to S1
signals during the contest last weekend on 10 m.

Let's start a dialog, if you're interested, either here on the group, or
privately.


73,
Dave KZ1O


--
Dave Bushong                      [e-mail]
MRS Technologies, Inc.



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From: Donald Duquet <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: G.E. Master Pro
Date: 11 Dec 1995 01:59:45 GMT
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Need Schematics for 4ET58 F19, 4ER41C C21 and Power Supply. Call Archie at WN3DHI or email to me
[e-mail]. Archie will pay.


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From: KF5KF (Robert Redoutey)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: ham club in austin ?
Date: 10 Dec 1995 20:01:22 GMT
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>> is there amateur radio club in Austin texas, could somebody give me an
>> address or a number i could call to find out.
>
snip...

There is also the Williamson County Amateur Radio Club located in
Georgetown, TX, just north of Austin. They meet on the 1st Thursday of
every month at 7:30 pm at the Georgetown ISD Adm. Building. For more information,
write me or PO Box 1644, Georgetown, TX 78627. We have over a 100 members
and growing. Club activities include a swap every year in February, club
barbeque's, club repeater and good speakers at most every club meeting.
Join us some time!

Bob Redoutey KF5KF
WCARC Board of Directors
[e-mail]


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From: [e-mail] (Joe BV/N0IAT)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Ham net in the South Pacific
Date: 11 Dec 1995 10:22:00 GMT
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In article <4ad2de$[e-mail]>, [e-mail]
says...
>
>Tony's Net - 14.315 2100z
>Australian Travller's Net - 14.116 0300Z
>Pacific Maritime Moble Net - 14.313 0400
>ANZA - 21.205 0500Z
>Pacific InterIsland Net 14.315 0800z
>Indian Ocean Net 14.315 1115Z
>
>Rick - NH2F
>SSCA Cruising Station - GUAM
>WOA Assn
>Net Controller Pacific InterIsland Net

There are also the CW nets if that's your cup of Java. I like the following:

SEASON (South East Asia Station Operators Net) on 14.040 at 11:00 UTC.
Speed is about 40 WPM, many maritime mobile ops and a fun group.

SEANET-CW 14.032 @ 23:00 UTC weekly.

Others of interest:

FAR EAST NET:  14.285 @ 02:00 UTC Sunday Mornings.  This net control is from
Korea, run by several HL9's (US Military Personnel in Korea) and is
freqented by several JA's, BV's, and a few VK's.  More of a rag-chew net but
good info and occasional newsline updates read over the air.  Net is
entirely in English, and many check-ins are expatriated from the USA or
Europe.

Catch ya on the air.
73,  Joe


--
73 from Joe BV/N0IAT  Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C.
Ex. 7J1AOF(Japan) KA0ZDH(novice) YU3/N0IAT(Slovenia)
Licensed Radio Amateur since 1986 //comments are mine only



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Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Ham radio and racism
Date: 12 Dec 1995 15:21:08 GMT
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 [e-mail] (Jerry B Altzman) writes:
>In article <4a2mj5$85c$[e-mail]>,
>Mike Whatley  <[e-mail]> wrote:
>>The real "shame" is the fact that most white hams believe that
>>amateur radio *isn't* a racist hobby.
>
>The hobby isn't racist. The hobbiests may be.
>
>>I stand by my original assertion. Ham Radio is an institutionally
>>racist hobby.
>
>It's funny, it doesn't get any truer no matter how many times you assert it.
>How is the Amateur Radio Service racist? Does the FCC prohibit licenses to
>people of certain races?
>
>What ham-radio institutions are racist? ARRL? Contesting?
>
>It is clear, Mike, that you have no idea about what you're talking. There
>are racist ham-radio operators, but the hobby is no more intrinsically
>racist than knitting or playing musical instrument.<---------|

     I wonder if Dizzy Gilespie or Louis Armstrong were ham operators??

Steve



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Date: 10 Dec 1995 14:34:00 +0200
From: [e-mail] (Christian Buenger)
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Hello!

Does anybody have a list of ham related mailing lists. I recently found a
DX-reflector but that was all. Do you have any tips or lists, which you
could mail me?

thanks in advance!

73 de Christian, DL6KAC

InterNet: [e-mail]
          [e-mail]

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From: Dennis J Ponsness <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Ham related mailing lists?
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Christian,
     There is a VHF/UHF reflector that is geared pimarily to SSB/CW weak signal.  No FM,
repeaters or satellites are discussed there.  The address is:


[e-mail]

and in the message field:

suscribe



Hope this helps

73 from EN84ij

Dennis WB0WAO



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From: [e-mail] (Gilbert Gwilliam)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.homebrew,rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Ham stores/Chicago, 500W dummy load
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Keywords: Dummy load ham stores
Xref: news.epix.net rec.radio.amateur.equipment:22410 rec.radio.amateur.homebrew:12068 rec.radio.amateur.misc:95450

I am a non-ham who needs to buy a 500 W dummy load (for 13.56 MHz,
preferably with a BNC connector) for an experiment in an industrial
setting.  Needless to say, I need this soon (like tomorrow).  Can anyone
tell me a ham store in the Chicago area (North/West would be preferable
but not required) or a mail-order outfit that would be able to supply
this item quickly?  Alternatively, does anyone in the Chicago area have
one that they could lend (rent) to us for a few days?  Although it might
be possible to build a dummy load relatively simply, I would prefer not
to do that for reasons of repeatability (we may need to repeat this
experiment in another location with different equipment at a later
date.)

Any help would be appreciated.

Jeff Gwilliam




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From: [e-mail] (Peter Hopmans)
Subject: Re: Handicap Friend
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In article <4a5ioe$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] says...
>
>Dear Friends:
>
>     I have a friend who has been in a wheelchair for about 40 years
>after having been injured in a football game in high school.  He would
>like to be able to study for his ham license, and can use a computer.
>
>     Would appreciate someone sending him a floppy disk with shareware
>and/or freeware for code practice (he probably will not have to send)
>and question pool study and/or anything else you think he could use.
>
>     He has written to handiham without any response.  Thanks for any
>help.  His address is:
>     Bill Clark        P. O. Box 276     Gorman, TX. 76454
>
>Thanks, WA5PUA, John
>-----------------------------------------------------
>\        /
> \  /\  /       WIN95? .. been there, done that!
>  \/  \/ ARPED, and doing quite well, thank you!
>
Hello John,
Which CW program will you have?....I have many programs code practice but
I thinks that any HAM in the USA have this.
But when you any software out of Europe, You can tel me.

'73 PE1PFY, Peter.



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Peter:  Thanks for your response.  I had hoped that someone in the
States would volunteer to send Bill a XMAS card with a floppy disk
inside so that he can get ready for the exam, but so far have not
heard from anyone.  Perhaps we will sooner or later.

He just needs to pass the 5 WPM code test, so something that goes up
to about 10 WPM should be all he needs, and of course could use the
question pool for all classes of US license for study.

Thanks again for your reply.  His address is
 Bill Clark     Gorman, Tx. 76454

John WA5PUA
-----------------------------------------------------
\        /
 \  /\  /       WIN95? .. been there, done that!
  \/  \/ ARPED, and doing quite well, thank you!



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[e-mail] (American Red Cross - Martin County) wrote:
>Help,
>
>I am looking for someone with one of those CD-ROM license directories to help
>pull up a list of HAMS in my area for me.  I do not have a CD-ROM player or
>access to one otherwise I would just buy the disk.
>
>please contact me via e-mail if you can help.

If you have web access, look at the UALR's callsign search engine.  It allows
searches based on callsign, name, city, state, or zip, (with partial search
fields allowed) so you should be able to get the info you're after.
URL:  http://www.ualr.edu/doc/hamualr/callsign.html

This is also the most current database I know of.

Good luck.

Jerry, KO6JV (Sacramento CA area)
[e-mail]
"My opinions, not my employer's."



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From: [e-mail] (Jacques Schenk)
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Subject: Help: Morse code practice program
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Can anyone tell me where te find a good morse training program ?
I have a soundblaster pro 2 compatible card and i need the program only
for practicing my morse receiving


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Subject: Hey Boo Boo
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[e-mail] (Bill Nelson) wrote:

>The second, which may or may not do anything useful, is to complain to his
>system postmaster.  Most likely, you will not get any results, as Mike is
>not doing anything illegal - but it might calm you down a bit.

This suggestion so ham like. Whine to a postmaster, what a wimp.
If I said boo to most hams that would make them wet their pants.

#================#=====================================================#
|  Burt Fisher   |  Teacher of video, broadcasting and electronics     |
| Amateur call   |         South Dennis, Ma. (Cape Cod)                |
|    K1OIK       |  The less you say, the more people will remember    |
#================#=====================================================#
|                            [e-mail]                          |
#======================================================================#

I never make the mistake of arguing with people for whose opinions I have no
respect.
Edward Gibbon




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From: [e-mail] (Robert Davis)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: HF rig has 800hz offset for CW?
Date: 10 Dec 1995 17:02:40 -0700
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[e-mail] (charles copeland) writes:

>My TS820 manual states that the CW transmit is 800hz offset
>to the receive.  Why do they do that?

>Assuming two CW operators have this same radio, how is it corrected?
>(I know about the RIT control. How is situation corrected without RIT)

>example:

>             OPERATOR #1     OPERATOR #2

>                             <-- TX 7101.6
>             TX 7100.8 -->   <-- RX 7100.8
>             RX 7100.0 -->


Well, yes, but that is not how it works.
     OP 1          OP 2

TX 7100.8          7100.8 TX
RX 7100.8          7100.8 RX
It is not that the receiver is tuned to a different frequency.
It is that the beat frequency oscillator is offset from the
receive frequency so that there will be a difference (800 hz)
so a tone will appear in the audio output.
Early SSB transceivers did not have the offset (Collins KWM-2)
Swan 350 come to mind)  and the operators would hopscotch
across the band as they changed frequency to hear the CW tone.
Without use of the RIT, the transmitter and receiver are
(well, should be) tuned to exactly the same frequency.
Without the offset, you hear zero beat from the audio output
until you tune the radio off the other station's frequency.
But then, the other station no longer hears your signal,
assuming you both listen to the same side of the CW signal.
So the radio has the BFO offset.  More modern radios have a
variable offset to accomodate CW ops who want to listen to 400 hz, or
900 hz or whatever.

--
[e-mail]    Robert Davis  Emporia, KS
                          Amateur Radio K0FPC


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The URL to access the HTX-202 and HTX-404 article is:

http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/wa3rvt

73 de WA3RVT, Steve



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From: "Tim.C" <[e-mail]>
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This radio looks like exactly what I want (when I can afford it, and have
got my A).


But why do all these new rigs have to be mobile size !!

I'd much rather have a big rig where the functions aren't hidden down
menus and behind function buttons !!


(Still want one that runs on 12v though.  I like the idea of being able
to run off batteries for portable work !)


    Tim.C
    Trainee BOFH

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The above views (and spellings) are not necessarily those of my employer.

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PGP- t+ 5++ X++ R* tv++ b++ D++ G e++>++++(*) h* r+++ y**  Geek v3.1


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From: Poltergeist <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: INFO WNTD for KYODO kg109 PMR
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Hi there.

I've just bought a Kyodo KG109 PMR programmed for 70cms and I wonder
if anyone out there has any useable info on this excellent radio?
I think the UK sales people are Key Comms somewhere down south,
can anyone confirm this? If so then their address would be helpfull.
The other main details I'm after is a Circuit Diagram, a pinout for
the speaker/mike connector and programming details for the EPROM.

Many thanks for reading this msg and in advance for any replies.


73's & 88's    Roy (G7KGT)  [[e-mail]]

Also listening on GB3MA (433.025) in the manchester UK area.



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From: [e-mail] (Ps7Ab Rony)
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unsubscribe  [e-mail]   Info-Hams Digest




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From: [e-mail] (Jerry Gardner)
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Stephan Rashkin ([e-mail]) wrote:

: Yup!...."/join #hamradio"

And the signal-to-noise ratio is even lower than it is on
rec.radio.amateur.misc...


--
Jerry Gardner          | Maintainer of the Large Format Digest
[e-mail]    | Send subscription requests to [e-mail]


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From: [e-mail] (Scott Leaf)
Subject: Re: IS THERE ANY PROBLEMS BRINING A HT ALONG A CRUISE?
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In article <[e-mail]>,
[e-mail] (steve genz) wrote:

-> HI, I am going on a cruise in Jan. to the carribbean and was wondering if
-> anyone knows about any special requirements when bringing a ht on the
-> islands? Any special licenses involved? please e-mail me at
-> [e-mail], Thanks!
-> 73's, steve wi0e

Dont know exactly where you are going in Carribean but here goes:

1) Suriname forbids radio communication with amateurs and is listed in the
forbidden country list by the I.T.U., not likely you will be close unless
you go to Trinidad and Tobago, Grenada or Barbados, however, Canadians are
allowed to operate temporarily from Suriname.  Not sure about USA.

2) Can't answer for USA but Canadians are allowed to operate temporarily
from: Antigua and Barbuda, Bahamas, Bermuda, Dominican Republic, Costa
Rica, Dominica, Grenada, Guatemala, Haiti, Honduras, Jamaica, Mexico,
Nicaragua, Panama, Saint Lucia, Suriname, Trinidad & Tobago, & Venezuela.

I doubt that the American list would be much different but someone can
tell us for certain now that I got the ball rolling.

73

--
Scott Leaf VE7ZVZ CN89os
[e-mail]
Port Coquitlam, British Columbia, Canada
Mountain DX Club VA7SM - "To boldy VHF where no ham has VHFed before"
Coquitlam Radio Club VE7SCC - "The Satellite Seniors"


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From: [e-mail] (Jim Weir)
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Subject: Re: IS THERE ANY PROBLEMS BRINING A HT ALONG A CRUISE?
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[e-mail] (steve genz) wrote:

>HI, I am going on a cruise in Jan. to the carribbean and was wondering if
>anyone knows about any special requirements when bringing a ht on the
>islands? Any special licenses involved? please e-mail me at
>[e-mail], Thanks!
>73's, steve wi0e

Yeah, if you've gotta bring along your HT on a carribbean cruise to
keep yourself occupied, you've got more problems than trying to get
permits and all the rest of it.

Jim



Jim Weir VP Engineering  | "We seem to be standing on
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 [e-mail] (steve genz) writes:
>HI, I am going on a cruise in Jan. to the carribbean and was wondering if
>anyone knows about any special requirements when bringing a ht on the
>islands? Any special licenses involved? please e-mail me at
>[e-mail], Thanks!
>73's, steve wi0e


    Hi Steve,

          I went on a cruise to the Bahamas, but I was not interested in
using the HT on the islands, just the ship. If the ship is registered in the
USA, there will not be a problem, but you must first get permission from the
captain to transmit. What islands are you going to?

73 de WA3RVT, Steve



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I am thinking about getting a dsp unit for my kenwood 450. I don't know
anything about DSP. all I know is that Timewave has a good reputation on
those devices. Has anybody tried the dsp 100. I read some brochures from
kenwood and they don't say too much about its performance. Can somebody
tell me if it is worth paying $600 for this unit. Thanks.
                                           Carlos


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Amateur Electronic Supply has brand new DSP100's on close out for $299.95


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From: [e-mail] (Arthur Chandler)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Largest Hamfest?
Date: 10 Dec 1995 23:39:42 -0800
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  I've been told that the Hamfest in Dayton, Ohio is the largest in the
country, and maybe the largest in the world. Is this so? And any idea of
about how many folks attend?


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In article <4agn7u$[e-mail]> [e-mail] "Arthur Chandler" writes:

>   I've been told that the Hamfest in Dayton, Ohio is the largest in the
> country, and maybe the largest in the world. Is this so? And any idea of
> about how many folks attend?

Try asking them via email to [e-mail] or [e-mail].

Regards,
--
   Tony - G3SKR / AA2PM                  email: [e-mail]
                                                [e-mail]
                                        packet: g3skr@n0ary.#nocal.ca.usa.na


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I'm trying to find manufacturers/models of digital voice recorders.  I'm
looking for an external DVR that I can interface with my controller (not
one of the "name brand" controllers, at least not yet, hi).

Not interested in any PC/soundcard-based systems.  I know ACC has (had) a
DVR for use with their controllers, and you can get a voice option on
CAT and Kendecomm controllers.  That's not what I want.  I'm looking
for an external DVR that I can interface with my controller.  I know
I'll have to design some interface hardware - that's OK.  What I don't
want to do is reinvent the wheel by designing/building a complete
DVR from scratch if I can avoid it.

Someone mentioned FF Systems to me.  I have most of their literature, but
don't remember seeing anything about a DVR there.  Anyone know?

                                                        --- Jeff
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 Jeff DePolo  WN3A            Twisted Pair: H:610-337-7383  W:215-387-3059 x300
 [e-mail]  RF: 442.1 442.2 442.4 443.45 443.8 444.15 linked
 Claim to Fame: I got the first speeding ticket on the information superhighway


From Unknown Wed Dec 13 15:37:52 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Alan Gollom)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Microham Logging Program
Date: 13 Dec 1995 13:30:09 GMT
Organization: InterLog Internet Services
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I found a logging program called Microham and am rather impressed with
it.  It's an older shareware program (1992).  I was wondering if anyone is
aware of a more recent version and if it obtainable from the internet.

Any information would be appreciated.

Alan VE3XAG


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From: [e-mail] (bill)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Motorola Maxtrac Lowband modifications
Date: 12 Dec 1995 15:57:39 GMT
Organization: Express Access Online Communications, USA
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Does Anyone have or know how to modify the LowBand Maxtracs to cover
the 6 meter band. I have A maxtrac, but the highest it will go
it 51.995 Mhz. The radio takes the freqs into memory, but will not
x-mit. Please e-mail responces.


73,

Bill,
KA3MFN/4


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From: Greg Becker  [e-mail]
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Need ARD-230A parts (HF amp)
Date: 11 Dec 1995 03:26:03 GMT
Organization: Ideas For American Manufacturers - "Technology Conceptualization and Market Development"
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I need the motor for the "Tune" capacitor in an Advanced Radio
Devices ARD-230A HF amp. I know someone out there has parts...

WHO? (whom?)

73,

Greg Becker NA2N
[e-mail]
Ideas For American Manufacturers
"Technology Conceptualization and Market Development"



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From: [e-mail] (Chris Oesterling)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Need GPS supplier...
Date: 12 Dec 1995 14:41:14 GMT
Organization: Msen, Inc. -- Ann Arbor, MI.
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Hi. I know I've seen catalogs with a $200 GPS with serial out (I do need
APRS compatibility) but I'm not sure where. I want to buy one as an x-mas
gift (ok I wait to the last minute). Can anyone help me?


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From: [e-mail] (Stephan Rashkin)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Need GPS supplier...
Date: Tue, 12 Dec 1995 23:04:49 GMT
Organization: CyberComm Online Services
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[e-mail] (Chris Oesterling) wrote:

>Hi. I know I've seen catalogs with a $200 GPS with serial out (I do need
>APRS compatibility) but I'm not sure where. I want to buy one as an x-mas
>gift (ok I wait to the last minute). Can anyone help me?


Many of the larger marine supply stores carry many different ones on
their shelves..they also provide catalogs..
Try West Marine and E&B for a couple...check your local area
suppliers, they could use the business this time of year..
I am kinda partial to my Garmin 45 which has outputs..I bought it
locally at E&B, but bought the accessories at West Marine also
local..

Steve, WA2NHZ

ps..West Marine and E&B both have large catalogs and
offer mail order..




From Unknown Wed Dec 13 15:37:57 1995
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From: [e-mail]   (Bill Newkirk)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Need GPS supplier...
Date: 13 Dec 1995 04:46:48 GMT
Organization: Space Coast Amateur Technical Group
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In <4ak4ab$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Chris Oesterling) writes:
>Hi. I know I've seen catalogs with a $200 GPS with serial out (I do need
>APRS compatibility) but I'm not sure where. I want to buy one as an x-mas
>gift (ok I wait to the last minute). Can anyone help me?

well, if you really want to impress 'em, you'll pick up something like a
Collins GPS-4000...8)

but more realistically, check out the pilot stores at the local FBO's and if you
have any marine shops in your area, they can probably help you out too..

Bill Newkirk WB9IVR                  The Space Coast Amateur Technical Group
Melbourne, FL                       duty now for the future of amateur radio
Lombardi's 1st Law of Business:
Companies succeed in spite of their best effort.  If they succeed at all.



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From: Robert Scott <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.antenna,rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: need help on where to op in ZF
Date: 12 Dec 1995 23:53:21 GMT
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I am going to the Cayman Islands next month, but i am staying in
a luxury hotel-the Hyatt. Does anyone know a ham that might let
me make some Q's from their qth? I would pay them for the use of
their station. TU..Rob wr3y


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From: [e-mail] (Steven Affens)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: New CQ CONTEST WWW URL
Date: 13 Dec 1995 04:18:06 GMT
Organization: Express Access Online Communications, Greenbelt, MD USA
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Check out the New CQ CONTEST Web Site:
http://www.access.digex.net/~cqmag/cqtest.html
Let me know what you think
--
Steven C. Affens
[e-mail]



From Unknown Wed Dec 13 15:37:59 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Jeremy Boot)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: New Homepage in Nottingham, UK
Date: Fri, 08 Dec 1995 18:30:52 GMT
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Yes - yawn - another. But they do attract some attention and already
within an hour I had a message from an amateur in LU.

http://www.innotts.co.uk/~asperges/

There's also an interesting page on a local Elizabethan Manor.

Who says Amateur Radio isn't varied?!




Jeremy G4NJH
[e-mail]



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From: [e-mail] (Robert Smits)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Old style Yaesu mic connectors now available again
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Date: Sat, 09 Dec 1995 16:54:00 PST
Reply-To: [e-mail]
Distribution: world
Organization: The Curmudgeon's Cottage
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Xref: news.epix.net rec.radio.amateur.equipment:22278 rec.radio.amateur.misc:95318

Some time ago, someone posted looking for mic connectors to fit on the old
style Yaesu FT-207R handhelds. These are a six pin audio connector, and I
think were also used by Wilson, though I never had one of those.

I was browsing through a catalog I picked up recently in Vancouver, BC at
RP Electronics, and lo and behold, there they were.

The part number is 359-100 for the mic cord plug, and 359-105 for the
matching chassis mount jack. (The female end)

Prices were listed as $12.95 Canadian for the 359-100s, in quantities of
1-9, and $9.95 for the 359-105s in the same quantities.

RP is at 2113 West 4th Ave, Vancouver, BC, V6K 1N7, their phone number is
[phone], Fax [phone].

I have no connection with RP whatever, but if some of you are still
looking for these connectors, I suggest you give them a call.
--
[e-mail]

Sometimes you're the windshield, and sometimes you're the bug.
                                     Mark Knopfler


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From: [e-mail] (Jeff Moskow)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: operating in mexico
Date: 8 Dec 1995 17:34:44 -0500
Organization: Ready-to-Run Software, Inc.
Lines: 8
Distribution: usa mexico
Message-ID: <4aaei4$[e-mail]>
NNTP-Posting-Host: pudding.rtr.com
Summary: what do i need to do to operate in mexico
Keywords: reciprocal, license, mexico, usa

It looks like I'll be traveling to Mexico in the
near future.  What do I need to do to operate
while I'm there?

Thanks es 73,
                Jeff (WA1I)




From Unknown Wed Dec 13 15:38:04 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Ken Allen)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: operating in mexico
Date: Wed, 13 Dec 1995 01:46:29 GMT
Organization: UniComp Technologies International Corp -- Internet Service
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[e-mail] (Jeff Moskow) wrote:

>It looks like I'll be traveling to Mexico in the
>near future.  What do I need to do to operate
>while I'm there?

>Thanks es 73,
>               Jeff (WA1I)

==================================

When I was last down there a couple of years ago, you did not need
anything, but everything in Mexico seems to change every year. For
years, I would stop by the palaccio federal and get a permit, but year
before last, they told me that I did not need any permit. They just
told me to identify as XE1K5HR or XE2K5HR or whatever was appropriate.
I once camped out on a beach in extreme SouthWestern Jalisco and I
counted 5 hams operating on that one small beach. One from Missouri,
one from Nebraska, one from Nevada, A canadian from British Columbia,
and me from Louisiana. Non of us had permits.

As I said, things change very often in Mexico, so here is hoping you
have good luck.

        Les Goins
        K5HR




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From: [e-mail] (Catfish)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Packet software for PC
Date: Tue, 12 Dec 1995 05:50:47 GMT
Organization: Internet Express (800-592-1240 customer service)
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Looking for Kantronics "Hostmaster" software for 486PC.



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From: [e-mail] (Catfish)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Packet software for PC
Date: Tue, 12 Dec 1995 05:52:01 GMT
Organization: Internet Express (800-592-1240 customer service)
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[e-mail] (Catfish) wrote:

>Looking for Kantronics "Hostmaster" software for 486PC.

Forgot to mention ..to be used with KPC-3

Necesito una puta!!!!!



From Unknown Wed Dec 13 15:38:07 1995
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From: Gareth Crispell <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Q: What means "HAM"??
Date: 9 Dec 1995 04:18:14 GMT
Organization: Craigville Conference Center
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"Martin Biallas" <[e-mail]> wrote:

>still I couldn t figure out what "HAM" means.
>So, please forgive this simple question ... it s from a simple human being ...

Hi Martin ! This seems to be a question that is asked and answered
several times a year. Many of us have our own pet theories. I believe the
simple truth is that nobody knows for sure!!

N1MSV

--






                 ..as for the mysteries of the
                Universe...they knew them not...


  And in the time of their visitation they shall shine, and run
  to and fro like sparks among the stubble.

  gareth     e-mail    [e-mail]




From Unknown Wed Dec 13 15:38:08 1995
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From: Burt Fisher <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Q: What means "HAM"??
Date: 9 Dec 1995 23:27:26 GMT
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"Martin Biallas" <[e-mail]> wrote:
>
>Recently I decided to become a radio amateur. Well ... actually I dreamed long time
>of that but since september this year I go to evening school every tuesday. And
>still I couldn t figure out what "HAM" means.
>So, please forgive this simple question ... it s from a simple human being


My dreams of life are much different than yours.
My dreams include people, not pieces of radios.
Ham means fat, white, lazy intelligent white MAN.

#================#=====================================================#
|  Burt Fisher   |  Teacher of video, broadcasting and electronics     |
| Amateur call   |         South Dennis, Ma. (Cape Cod)                |
|    K1OIK       |  The less you say, the more people will remember    |
#================#=====================================================#
|                            [e-mail]                          |
#======================================================================#

I never make the mistake of arguing with people for whose opinions I have no
respect.
Edward Gibbon




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From: Burt Fisher <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Q: What means "HAM"??
Date: 9 Dec 1995 23:28:58 GMT
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Gareth Crispell <[e-mail]> wrote:
>
>Hi Martin ! This seems to be a question that is asked and answered
>several times a year. Many of us have our own pet theories. I believe the
>simple truth is that nobody knows for sure!!

Well that was a real insightful response.
So ham like.
You were better off when you were flaming Windows 95.

#================#=====================================================#
|  Burt Fisher   |  Teacher of video, broadcasting and electronics     |
| Amateur call   |         South Dennis, Ma. (Cape Cod)                |
|    K1OIK       |  The less you say, the more people will remember    |
#================#=====================================================#
|                            [e-mail]                          |
#======================================================================#

I never make the mistake of arguing with people for whose opinions I have
no respect.
Edward Gibbon




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From: [e-mail] (Are Barstad)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Q: What means "HAM"??
Date: 11 Dec 1995 05:15:22 GMT
Organization: Ministry of the Solicitor General & Correctional Services
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   Burt Fisher <[e-mail]> wrote:
>Ham means fat, white, lazy intelligent white MAN.
>
>#================#
>|  Burt Fisher   |
>| Amateur call   |
>|    K1OIK       |
>#================#

Could you follow that up with a GIF of yourself? Don't just say what you look
like - prove it!

Come to think of it... when I squint my eyes and look at your call sign, it
sorta looks like it says 'OINK'.

>I do not argue with hams, I play with them because they are so much fun to
>PLAY with.

No hard feelings. I like to play with you!

VA3ARE - Are Barstad

------------------------------------------------------------
 Opinions expressed herein are my own and do not in any way
 represent those of my employer.


From Unknown Wed Dec 13 15:38:11 1995
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From: Wayne Jones <wjones.hgea.org>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: QSL-Info needed
Date: 12 Dec 1995 03:48:36 GMT
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[e-mail] (Juergen Oberbeck) wrote:
>
>Hi there,
>Looking for QSL-Info worked in CQWW SSB 95
>VP5S  and
>VP2E via WB5CRG adress needed

WB5CRG
Robert A. Wood
1013 Lewis Drive
Kemah TX  77565

Aloha
Wayne, NH6GJ



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From: [e-mail] (Walt Davidson)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,uk.radio.amateur
Subject: Re: QSLs from US Counties needed
Date: Wed, 13 Dec 1995 11:45:43 GMT
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[e-mail] (Wolf Harranth) wrote:

>QSL COLLECTION, an international foundation based in Vienna, Austria, host
>world's largest collection of QSL cards for research, publications,
>exhibitions etc. There are many gaps in the US COUNTIES file ...

This seems to be a singularly pointless exercise.  I am at a loss to
understand what possible "research" benefit can be derived from
collecting a QSL card from every county in the USA ... especially if no
actual radio contact has been involved.

However, on a more positive note, if you wish me to bequeath my entire
lifetime QSL collection to you in my will, please let me know.   I have
over 40,000 cards dating back to 1960 (back to 1958 if you include the
SWL ones).  Otherwise, they will simply amount to about 0,5 tonne of
waste paper for recycling!  I am sure they would be of no value to
anyone else after I am gone.

73 de G3NYY

--
Walt Davidson               E-mail: [e-mail]
                                    [e-mail]



From Unknown Wed Dec 13 15:38:13 1995
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From: [e-mail] (William A. Kirsanoff)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Radio Shack HTX-202 "birdie" problem
Date: 9 Dec 95 00:10:23 GMT
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On: 6 Dec 1995 16:03:17 -0700 [e-mail] (crum) wrote:

        Hi everyone, the manager of the Radio Shack service center in
        this area (Salt Lake County, Utah) just told me that she will
        not do anything to fix my new radio which always receives a
        noise signal on 146.76MHz -- that is, is has a "birdie" there.
        Does anyone else have experiences dealing with Radio Shack to
        try and fix such a problem?


You should contact the nearest Radio Shack regional office and speak
with the regional manager. If the radio is new, as in less than 30 days
old, then under Radio Shack's policy the manager should at least take it
back, and certainly repair it. I believe the R.S. hand helds have a
problem with noise emanating from the keypad, but I thought that was
fixed in the later runs.

The regional office call should do the trick, if not, phone Tandy Corp.
in Ft. Worth, 817-390-3011.

Good Luck & 73.

de Bill K.
_______________________________________________________________________
Wm. A. Kirsanoff         Internet:
Rockwell International   [e-mail]
[phone]
Ham: KD6MCI
------------------------------------------------------------------------
  Who are you? * I am number 2. *  Who is number 1? * You are number 6.
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From: [e-mail] (Ken Thompson)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Radio Shack HTX-202 "birdie" problem
Date: Mon, 11 Dec 1995 10:18:36
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>On: 6 Dec 1995 16:03:17 -0700 [e-mail] (crum) wrote:

>        Hi everyone, the manager of the Radio Shack service center in
>        this area (Salt Lake County, Utah) just told me that she will
>        not do anything to fix my new radio which always receives a
>        noise signal on 146.76MHz -- that is, is has a "birdie" there.
>        Does anyone else have experiences dealing with Radio Shack to
>        try and fix such a problem?
They should take it back and give you a refund.
They will not fix it because it is a multiple of the color burst crystal they
are using to drive the uP.




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Subject: Re: Radio Shack HTX-202 "birdie" problem
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Thanks to those who replied to posted followups on this topic.

A Radio Shack store exchanged that 202 for a new one, and my new one does
not have a "birdie" on 146.76.  The serial number of my new 202
is about 30,000 greater than the serial number of the other one, so
maybe the birdie was a design flaw that just happened to be corrected
recently.

Thanks especially to William for the Tandy phone number and recommendation
that I pursue the matter.  (It turns out that I didn't need to do that,
but that is good advice.)

So far I have had good experience with Radio Shack, good experience
with Standard, and good experience with Alinco (until I lost my
DJ-580T while hiking).  So far I have heard from one guy (in Denmark!)
who owns a DJ-G5T, and he likes it, so all systems are go for getting
one of those.  The Yaesu FT-530 is popular here, and a few people I
know have FT-51R radios, but I am hoping to see an FT-50R come out,
with features and rugged design like the FT-10R supposedly has.
And, it would be cool if a future HT model has a 9600bps data jack someday.


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     HELP ME!
     I need schematic diagram of RANGER tranceiver (RCI-2950).
     Please send to:
Box 980, 185020, Petrozavodsk-20, Republic of Karelia, Russia.
     73! RK1NA (ex UN1CD)
     Konstantin Gvozdev
     Thanks you!




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Anyone know of any (apart from Israel this is)?
--


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From: [e-mail] (Greg Kopp)
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Have you ever bought anything from Oklahoma Comm Center (1-800-765-HAMS)??

I'm looking at buying a radio mail order from them. They are $30 cheaper
than most other stores with free shipping and I'm not sure of thier
reliability.

e-mail to [e-mail] or [e-mail]


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Been reliable for me and they ship free.


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[e-mail] (Greg Kopp) writes:

>Have you ever bought anything from Oklahoma Comm Center (1-800-765-HAMS)??

>I'm looking at buying a radio mail order from them. They are $30 cheaper
>than most other stores with free shipping and I'm not sure of thier
>reliability.

They are WAY up on the north side of OKC (maybe even Edmond) and I'm way down
on the south side.  But I've bought several things from them, no problem.
They have a small display area, but are basically geared to mail order.
They've been in business for a few years now.  They try to stay competitive
even when Hams want the wholesale price.  I've seen em sell a radio for
five bucks over wholesale.  I guess there's money in volume...




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I bought one radio from them over two years ago and had no
problems with them or the radio - Yeasu FT-530 Dual bander.



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have purchaced a yeasu ft530
and a icom 706
and a yeasu ft2400
they were $30 less than the competition and exelent attitude
and for an additional $5 they shipped 2 day



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From: [e-mail] (Al Gerheim)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: ReRe: Contesting
Date: 11 Dec 1995 12:51:44 GMT
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[e-mail] wrote:

> You need to be in good physical shape to perform well in a contest.
> During last weekend's CQWW I didn't sit on my butt for 10 hours -
> I sat there for 42 hours and I had fun!
> But I think noone outside contesting will get this...

> 73! Uli, DL2HBX

I don't know any physically fit people who could tolerate being on their
asses for that length of time.  I hope you took a break to run or
swim a few km.

I'm sorry, the concepts of being in "good physical shape"  and blowing
a whole weekend on your ass just don't mix well.

I work a few QSO's during contests just to add to  my DXCC numbers.
The only "long haul" operating I do is for Field Day, and then
it's at home off of generators, and I do it only to check the generators.
The most "chair time" I have managed so far is about 8 hours in 4
2-hour shifts.  I had to go cycling and/or swimming.

I want to hear from "serious" contesters who run marathons or triathlons.
I just can't believe that there are very many.  I do short/medium length
triathlons (1/2, 15, 5), and run about 15 mi per week, but I'm not
a "serious" contester.

Al Gerheim, N4QN


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Subject: Re: ReRe: Contesting
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[e-mail] (Al Gerheim) wrote:

>I want to hear from "serious" contesters who run marathons or triathlons.
>I just can't believe that there are very many.  I do short/medium length
>triathlons (1/2, 15, 5), and run about 15 mi per week, but I'm not
>a "serious" contester.
>
>Al Gerheim, N4QN

You are a man.
But contesters are wimps.
Wimps do not do what you do.
A "serious Contester" is a 300 pound weakling.

#================#=====================================================#
|  Burt Fisher   |  Teacher of video, broadcasting and electronics     |
| Amateur call   |         South Dennis, Ma. (Cape Cod)                |
|    K1OIK       |  The less you say, the more people will remember    |
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I never make the mistake of arguing with people for whose opinions I have no
respect.
Edward Gibbon




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Subject: Re: ReRe: Contesting
Date: 12 Dec 1995 08:08:47 GMT
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>I don't know any physically fit people who could tolerate being on their
>asses for that length of time.  I hope you took a break to run or
>swim a few km.

Well, you might have heard of earlier astronauts. They were sitting
on their proverbial for days and weeks, and you can be assured they were and
had to be in physically good shape.

73, Moritz DL5UH



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From: [e-mail] (Jerry Gardner)
Subject: Re: ReRe: Contesting
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[e-mail] wrote:

: Well, you might have heard of earlier astronauts. They were sitting
: on their proverbial for days and weeks, and you can be assured they were and
: had to be in physically good shape.


Actually, those astronauts were in freefall for days and weeks, so they
weren't really "sitting on their asses" at all.

The closest parallel I can think of to ham contesting is a bunch of
guys sitting on couches eating chips and peanuts and swilling beer while
watching an entire weekend's worth of football on TV.

--
Jerry Gardner          | Maintainer of the Large Format Digest
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From: [e-mail] (Joe Landis - Systems & Network Mgr)
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Subject: Re: ReRe: Contesting
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In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Jerry Gardner) writes:
> [e-mail] wrote:
>
> : Well, you might have heard of earlier astronauts. They were sitting
> : on their proverbial for days and weeks, and you can be assured they were and
> : had to be in physically good shape.
>
>
> Actually, those astronauts were in freefall for days and weeks, so they
> weren't really "sitting on their asses" at all.
>
> The closest parallel I can think of to ham contesting is a bunch of
> guys sitting on couches eating chips and peanuts and swilling beer while
> watching an entire weekend's worth of football on TV.
>
> --
> Jerry Gardner          | Maintainer of the Large Format Digest
> [e-mail]    | Send subscription requests to [e-mail]

Oh good, here we have an expert contester to set us straight.
What's your call? Perhaps we've worked.
Joe - AA3GN

--
Joe Landis - Systems and Network Manager - North American Drager - Telford, PA
[e-mail]                        ..speaking only for myself, of course..


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From: [e-mail] (Are Barstad)
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In article <4ah9h0$[e-mail]>,
   [e-mail] (Al Gerheim) wrote:
>I want to hear from "serious" contesters who run marathons or triathlons.

You're in the wrong newsgroup then. Try rec.sports.marathon or
rec.sports.triathlon for those types of contests. This newsgroup is for
amateur radio related topics.

I have participated in many triathlons, but don't think it should be mandatory
in order to be classified a "serious contester" - in fact, it has nothing to
do with radio contesting period.

73,
VA3ARE - Are Barstad

------------------------------------------------------------
 Opinions expressed herein are my own and do not in any way
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Subject: ReReRe: Contesting
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In Article <4ah9h0$[e-mail]>
[e-mail] (Al Gerheim) writes:
>[e-mail] wrote:
>
>> You need to be in good physical shape to perform well in a contest.
>> During last weekend's CQWW I didn't sit on my butt for 10 hours -
>> I sat there for 42 hours and I had fun!
>> But I think noone outside contesting will get this...
>
>I don't know any physically fit people who could tolerate being on their
>asses for that length of time.  I hope you took a break to run or
>swim a few km.

Ok, it wasn't 42 hours in a row but 22+10+10 hours during the 48 hours of
the contest. Unfortunately the nearby river's temperature was close to
zero so I didn't want to risk a collision with the icebergs...

>I'm sorry, the concepts of being in "good physical shape"  and blowing
>a whole weekend on your ass just don't mix well.
>...

I didn't think of the Schwarzenegger or Iron Man type of physical
fitness, more a mixture of physical and *mental* staying power.
In this kind of marathon you have to keep up concentration for
the whole duration of your participation so maybe Chessplayers
are a better comparison.
You can't perform well (as single OP) in a full weekend's contest
if you start having problems copying code after some hours.

To my mind there is a direct link between physical and mental
staying power though I know some top contesters that don't
look like they did any kind of sports.

>I want to hear from "serious" contesters who run marathons or triathlons.
>
>Al Gerheim, N4QN

Yes, I did marathons, real ones, and I do other regular sports
(Volleyball). I think this helps you to stay on the scene.

73!  Uli, DL2HBX

--------------------------------------------------------------------------

This one is for K1"OInK"s highly intelligent comment on the subject:

Hello Burt,
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73! Uli


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Good lord...A CMOS UART with independant receive and transmit clocks is
less than five bucks!!!   73   Cliff   W6HDO

On Thu, 7 Dec 1995, Rob Janssen wrote:

> In <[e-mail]> Don Rotolo <[e-mail]> writes:
>
>
> >In article <4a383p$a74$[e-mail]>,
> >> I'm trying to find either an IC or a schematic for converting
> >> serial-parallel.
>
> >Brian,
> >Don't bother building one when you can buy one - about $90 from
> >Global Computer Supplies 800-845-6225.
>
> Is this today's way of dealing with homebrewers?  I'm baffled...
>
> Rob
> --
> +------------------------------------+--------------------------------------+
> | Rob Janssen         [e-mail] | BBS: [phone] (2300-0730 local) |
> | AMPRnet:       [e-mail] | AX.25 BBS: PE1CHL@PI8WNO.#UTR.NLD.EU |
> +------------------------------------+--------------------------------------+
>
>


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The older STAR and OKIDATA five by seven printers almost always had
serial port inputs.  They usually can be gotten as a gift!!  Cliff W6HDO


On 9 Dec 1995, John Lundgren wrote:

> Brian Webb ([e-mail]) penned:
> : I'm trying to find either an IC or a schematic for converting
> : serial-parallel.
>
> : I own a solid state radioteletype decoder (circa 1980) designed
> : to work with serial printers. However, my printer, like virtually
> : all others is parallel.
>
> : Regards,
> : Brian Webb, KD6NRP
>
> Most printers around that time were serial.  There are still many old
> printers that are serial.  And believe it or not, most of the printers
> made today are serial.
>
> Well that's a bit of a fib.  Most of the printers, like LaserJets and
> DeskJets, have both serial and parallel ports.  And you could use either
> one on the newer models.  They switch automatically between the two ports.
>
> The computer stores like Fry's and MicroCenter sell a serial to parallel
> box for around $40 US.  You can often pick up a cheap buffer box that
> will do the same for a few dollars at a swap meet.
>
> You should check to make sure that the box you get can be set to the correct
> baud rate.  Some of the older stuff may run at very low baud rates, and
> most stuff today runs at 1200 bps or faster.
>
> --
> #===================================================================#
> |    John Lundgren - Elec Tech - Info Tech Svcs. | jlundgre@delta1  |
> |       Rancho Santiago Community College        | .deltanet.com    |
> |    17th St @ Bristol \ Santa Ana, CA 92706     |                  |
> | My opinions are my own, and not my employer's. |                  |
> |      "You can flame your brains out -- it won't take long."       |
> |         I have gone out to look for myself..  If I should         |
> |        return before I get back, hold me until I get here.        |
> #======P=G=P==k=e=y==a=v=a=i=l=a=b=l=e==u=p=o=n==r=e=q=u=e=s=t======#
>
>
>


From Unknown Wed Dec 13 15:38:35 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Henrik Johnsson)
Newsgroups: sci.electronics,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.homebrew,rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc,de.comm.ham
Subject: Re: Serial-to-Parallel Converter
Followup-To: sci.electronics,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.homebrew,rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc,de.comm.ham
Date: 13 Dec 1995 09:52:25 GMT
Organization: Ericsson Microwave Systems AB
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Rick Farmer ([e-mail]) wrote:
> >>In article <4a383p$a74$[e-mail]>,
> >>> I'm trying to find either an IC or a schematic for converting
> >>> serial-parallel.
>
>  Sorry I missed the fornt end of this thread, so I don't know exaclty what you
> need but the 74xx299 is a 20 pin parallel in and out universal 8 bit shift
> reg. It should do the trick.
[snip]
> Rick Farmer             |  Ratio DesignLab
> Electrical Engineer     |  3040 Peachtree Rd.
> [e-mail]          |  Atlanta, Ga. 30305 USA
It would most definitely not do the trick, at least not without large
amounts of support logic. The original post was about asynchronous
serial transfer. It can be done with the HD6402 as mentioned, but it
will take a few extra chips to go along. A microcontroller with onboard
PROM would probably give the lowest chip count, but you need some tools
that not everyone has available (compiler/assembler, device programmer).

/Henrik
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From Unknown Wed Dec 13 15:38:36 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Rick Farmer)
Newsgroups: sci.electronics,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.homebrew,rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc,de.comm.ham
Subject: Re: Serial-to-Parallel Converter
Date: Tue, 12 Dec 1995 22:51:00 -0400
Organization: MindSpring Enterprises, Inc.
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>>In article <4a383p$a74$[e-mail]>,
>>> I'm trying to find either an IC or a schematic for converting
>>> serial-parallel.

 Sorry I missed the fornt end of this thread, so I don't know exaclty what you
need but the 74xx299 is a 20 pin parallel in and out universal 8 bit shift
reg. It should do the trick. Tons of other options as usual. Since your going
to have to write a driver, you might want to use a microcontroller with a
serial port to make you box look like some other modern device that is
supported by whatever software is going to be talking to it.

Rick Farmer             |  Ratio DesignLab
Electrical Engineer     |  3040 Peachtree Rd.
[e-mail]          |  Atlanta, Ga. 30305 USA


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From: <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: six figure income
Date: 12 Dec 1995 15:32:07 GMT
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>>From Ron Curry KE6WED
>>
>><<It must be the personal attributes which you have so astutely
>><<recongnized in me that have caused me to earn a BSEE and an MSCE,
>><<FORCED  me bring home a six figure income for the last 10 years,
>><<become marketing manager for a $16billion company, earn a
>><commericial/instrument pilots license, own a half million dollar
>><<home, a BMW, an airplane, raise a child, be scoutmaster for the
>><<last 5 years, do volunteer work for the local schools, race
>>off-<<road vehicles semi-pro, etc.
>>


    Golly gee! Just think! He did all of that and STILL has time to justify
himself on the Internet!! Let's pat him on the back!

Steve



From Unknown Wed Dec 13 15:38:38 1995
From: [e-mail] (Hans Brakob)
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Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Supposin' (ii)
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Date: Mon, 11 Dec 1995 16:57:37 -0100
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Lines: 58

     A while back I posted a hypothetical question here entitled
"Just Supposin".
     I got a couple of thoughtful answers, and then the usual
vultures descended to pick apart the opinions of their peers.
(Rather than post opinions of their own.)
     I feel that the following has relevance.
>
>Poem by Gail Barnes
>=============================================================
>>>
>>>                 I Shot A Query Into The Net
>>>
>>> I shot a query into the net.
>>> I haven't got an answer yet,
>>> But seven people gave me hell
>>> And said I ought to learn to spell;
>>>
>>> A posted message called me rotten
>>> For ignoring mail I'd never gotten;
>>> An angry message asked me, Please
>>> Don't send such drivel overseas;
>>>
>>> A lawyer sent me private mail
>>> And swore he'd slap my butt in jail --
>>> I'd mentioned Un*x in my gem
>>> And failed to add the T and M;
>>>
>>> One netter thought it was a hoax:
>>> "Hereafter, post to net dot jokes!";
>>> Another called my grammar vile
>>> And criticized my writing style.
>>>
>>> Each day I scan each Subject line
>>> In hopes the topic will be mine;
>>> I shot a query into the net.
>>> I haven't got an answer yet ...
----------------------------------------------
For those who missed it the first time around,
below is a second try. (Note the opening line!)
----------------------------------------------
               JUST SUPPOSIN'
Putting aside all the arguments which have raged since Marconi
was a Novice --
...Just supposing--
    1) WARC 99 removed the Morse requirement from Amateur Service
       regulations, and;
    2) FCC then decided to amend US regulations to remove the
       Morse requirement from Part 97.
...And assuming--
    1) A beginners (entry class) license is desireable, and;
    2) A system of encouragement and recognition of advanced
       knowledge and/or skills is desireable.
...What recommendations would you make for changes in the testing
   and licensing structure for licensees in the US Amateur Radio
   Service and/or Amateur Satellite Service?
73, de Hans, K0HB




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From: DScott <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Swaps in CO?
Date: Tue, 12 Dec 1995 11:13:30 -0700
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Anyone know of any swaps coming up in Colorado?


From Unknown Wed Dec 13 15:38:40 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Who wants to know?)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Tech/Tech Plus Controversy
Date: 7 Dec 1995 22:51:12 GMT
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What is going on these days with license classes?  I have been out of the
hobby for 2 years and I see alot has changed.

I was originaly licensed as a novice back in 1990 after passing the written
and a 5WPM code test.  2 months later I upgraded to Tech.

Now, when I am on the air and someone asks what my class is they laugh at me
because they think I am a Tech Plus.  I really think the FCC should have
named it differently (maybe newbie or neophyte).  Then when I talk to some
folks, I get the feeling that Tech Plus is superior to Tech.  Folks telling
me to upgrade from Tech to Tech Plus.  WTFO?!

What is the deal and why am I asking and not just upgrading to general?

73 de KA1VIX

--
 -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
  \/  John T. Croteau - Network Engineer and proud supporter of GNU & FSF  \/
 \/\/          Where do I want to go today?  Linux '95 is where!          \/\/
 -----------------------------------------------------------------------------



From Unknown Wed Dec 13 15:38:41 1995
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From: [e-mail] (S. Sampson)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Tech/Tech Plus Controversy
Date: Fri, 8 Dec 1995 17:04:59
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[e-mail] (Who wants to know?) writes:

>Now, when I am on the air and someone asks what my class is they laugh at me
>because they think I am a Tech Plus.

There is simple advice to be had here.  That is, don't operate where you're not
wanted.  There are many repeaters around that operate on the rule that they are
the true believers.  All others are infidels.  Turn the channel...

Find a group who you enjoy listening too, and then join in.  If you listen long
enough on various repeaters or simplex channels, you will quickly see who is
playing games, and who is enjoying the hobby.  There are several repeaters
in town here that are always in use.  The problem is, they are always talking
about people behind their backs and generally accomplishing nothing.  They
sound like a herd of old ladies at the wash room.

Turn the channel, un-program them from scan.



From Unknown Wed Dec 13 15:38:42 1995
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From: [e-mail] (William A. Kirsanoff)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Tech/Tech Plus Controversy
Date: 9 Dec 95 00:31:55 GMT
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On: 7 Dec 1995 22:51:12 GMT [e-mail] (Who wants to know?)
wrote:


          What is going on these days with license classes?  I have been
          out of the hobby for 2 years and I see alot has changed.

          I was originaly licensed as a novice back in 1990 after
          passing the written and a 5WPM code test.  2 months later I
          upgraded to Tech.

          Now, when I am on the air and someone asks what my class is
          they laugh at me because they think I am a Tech Plus.  I
          really think the FCC should have named it differently (maybe
          newbie or neophyte).  Then when I talk to some folks, I get
          the feeling that Tech Plus is superior to Tech.  Folks telling
          me to upgrade from Tech to Tech Plus.  WTFO?!

          What is the deal and why am I asking and not just upgrading to
          general?

John,

Shortly before you were licensed (the database shows your upgrade in
1992), the Tech class license was changed. The current Tech license
requires passing the Novice and Tech written elements and no code test.
The license has all amateur privileges above 30 MHz. Passing the 5wpm
code test adds HF privileges of the old Tech class. The Tech class with
the code test is now officially called "Tech Plus" Yes, Tech Plus is
"better" than Tech. Since you passed the code test when you were
licensed, you are indeed a "Tech Plus." You should have been told to
retain your certificate showing you passed the code test. The first
"Tech Plus" licenses issued did not have "Tech Plus" printed on them,
the FCC database was not setup for it.

73

de Bill K.
________________________________________________________________________
Wm. A. Kirsanoff         Internet:
Rockwell International   [e-mail]
[phone]
Ham: KD6MCI
------------------------------------------------------------------------
  Who are you? * I am number 2. *  Who is number 1? * You are number 6.
------------------------------------------------------------------------








From Unknown Wed Dec 13 15:38:44 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Gary Harmon)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Tenna Phase Power Supplies
Date: Sun, 10 Dec 1995 14:20:20 GMT
Organization: Fibrnet Internet Services
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X-Newsreader: Forte Agent .99.82

Can anyone help with an address for Tenna Phase III power supplies?
Thanke very much in advance.  Happy Holidays!  GARY

========================================================================
Gary H. Harmon, Jr., K5JWK                      [e-mail]
6302 Robin Forest                               [e-mail]
San Antonio, TX 78239




From Unknown Wed Dec 13 15:38:44 1995
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From: Marinus Willemstijn <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: TR-851A - 7,6MHZ split
Date: 12 Dec 1995 05:18:25 GMT
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To: ALL

Thank you for reading this...

I bought a TR851A but it unfortunately has a 1.6Mhz split. In
the RSA we are using a 7,6Mhz split. What can I do to change
this...


73's

Marinus ZS6MAW
[e-mail]



From Unknown Wed Dec 13 15:38:45 1995
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From: Marinus Willemstijn <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: TR-851A - 7,6MHZ split
Date: 12 Dec 1995 05:18:52 GMT
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To: rec.radio.amateur.misc

Thank you for reading this...

I bought a TR851A but it unfortunately has a 1.6Mhz split. In
the RSA we are using a 7,6Mhz split. What can I do to change
this...


73's

Marinus ZS6MAW
[e-mail]



From Unknown Wed Dec 13 15:38:46 1995
Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!news.dorsai.org!bildin
From: [e-mail] (Bill Hindin)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: TRAFFIC FOR SYDNEY, AUSTRALIA
Date: 12 Dec 1995 19:39:37 GMT
Organization: The Dorsai Embassy
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I am looking for smeone in Sydney, Australia to pass on some flight
details to a friend of mine via the telephone. It is a local call to
Carleton, NSW.

If you can do this for me it would be very greatly appreciated. Please
reply by my e-mail address below.

Thank you very much!

73!

BILL

--
BILL HINDIN (AA2TF)

INTERNET: [e-mail]

"Counselor Troy, meet me in my ready room..."


From Unknown Wed Dec 13 15:38:47 1995
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
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From: [e-mail] (Mistie Mullarkey)
Subject: Re: TV Audio Reception
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Sender: [e-mail] (Mistie Mullarkey)
Reply-To: [e-mail] (Mistie Mullarkey)
Organization: The National Capital FreeNet
References:  <4a9pme$[e-mail]>
Date: Fri, 8 Dec 1995 21:55:45 GMT
Lines: 19

Norm Collins ([e-mail]) writes:
> I have a ICOM R7000 and have noticed that there is quite a bit of
> distortion when listening to TV audio signals.  Placing the radio in the
> FM (wide) position and attenuating the signal doesn't seem to help.
> I've heard better audio from $30 AM/FM/TV portables....
>
> Any comments or suggestions?
>
> Regards
>
> Norm


 You could buy a $30 AM/FM/TV portable.

--





From Unknown Wed Dec 13 15:38:48 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Scott Rosenfeld NF3I)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Unbelievably Great Alinco Service
Date: 8 Dec 1995 19:04:20 GMT
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I have a 1.5 month old DX-70T.  The tone board didn't work,
and the PLL liked to unlock for a split second on 6m.  I
called up the service center and talked to Tony, their very
knowledgable Tech (also a ham, BTW).

After 10 minutes on the phone, during which we tried to resolve
the problems over the phone, it was determined to be impos-
sible without sending it in.

I shipped it to them, and it arrived last Thursday.  It was
worked on by Tony this Tuesday thru Thursday - he found a
broken trace on the CTCSS board, and adjusted the PLL and
the 6m problem went away.

I got it back TODAY (next day air, their expense)!
--
Scott Rosenfeld NF3I Burtonsville, MD FM19 QRV 40-10/6/2/440
** Yes, you CAN do VHF contests with 25W and omni antennas **
Still stuck at 138 countries confirmed on HF w/dipoles...
--------------------------------------------------------------


From Unknown Wed Dec 13 15:38:49 1995
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From: [e-mail] (JAMES MOLLICA)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: VHF Meteor/Contest Skeds
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Date: Thu, 07 Dec 95 12:00:00 -0400
Distribution: world
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DJ>Is there a newsgroup that ops can access to either make and/or request sched
  >s for skeds on the
  >VHF bands?  Too bad that the "liason frequency"is ⁿnavailable"to a large seg


 Hey Dennis long time no hear.  Try the VHF reflector.

 TO: [e-mail]
     In the msg field  subscribe

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From Unknown Wed Dec 13 15:38:50 1995
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From: [e-mail]  (Mark A. Behrens)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: WA4D and his Noise
Date: 10 Dec 1995 21:21:59 GMT
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Having been personally intentionally interferred with, stepped on,
and insulted on both HF and local 2 meters FM repeaters by WA4D, this
amateur knows the only way to deal with him.

Ignore him on the air and block his postings to the news groups.

Do yourselves a favor....ignore him....he isn't worth it

Mark Behrens, WB9OOG



From Unknown Wed Dec 13 15:38:51 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Drew Durigan)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: WA4D and his Noise
Date: 10 Dec 1995 22:47:07 GMT
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[e-mail]  (Mark A. Behrens) wrote:
>
>Having been personally intentionally interferred with, stepped on,
>and insulted on both HF and local 2 meters FM repeaters by WA4D, this
>amateur knows the only way to deal with him.
>
>Ignore him on the air and block his postings to the news groups.
>
>Do yourselves a favor....ignore him....he isn't worth it
>
>Mark Behrens, WB9OOG


Better yet...what do you say we copy all his nonsensical drivel and send
it back to him via E-Mail?

-Drew in Charlotte-
 KF4DDM



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From: [e-mail] (Bill Nelson)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: WA4D and his Noise
Date: 12 Dec 1995 07:51:35 GMT
Organization: CS Outreach Services, Oregon State University, Corvallis, OR, USA
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Drew Durigan ([e-mail]) wrote:
: >
: >Ignore him on the air and block his postings to the news groups.
: >
: >Do yourselves a favor....ignore him....he isn't worth it
: >
: >Mark Behrens, WB9OOG

: Better yet...what do you say we copy all his nonsensical drivel and send
: it back to him via E-Mail?

That would not do any good. I suspect that Mike thrives on the attention
he is getting, and the discord that he causes.

There are really only two choices - other than responding.

The first is, as suggested by Mark - simply ignore him, if you don't agree
with is posts.

The second, which may or may not do anything useful, is to complain to his
system postmaster.  Most likely, you will not get any results, as Mike is
not doing anything illegal - but it might calm you down a bit.

By the way, if no one responded to his posts, I would not see any of them.
I put him in my kill file, the first day I started reading this group.

Bill


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From: [e-mail] (Michael Harmon)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: WANTED:  Heath GR-78 Manual
Date: Tue, 12 Dec 1995 23:40:58 GMT
Organization: Fibrnet Internet Services
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X-Newsreader: Forte Agent .99.82

I have acquired 2 units but alas, no manual.  If you have an extra one
or could make some specific copies for me, please let me know via
return e-mail.  Thanks very much and 73, GARY
========================================================================
Gary H. Harmon, Jr., K5JWK                      [e-mail]
6302 Robin Forest                               [e-mail]
San Antonio, TX 78239




From Unknown Wed Dec 13 15:38:54 1995
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From: Randall Henderson <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur,rec.radio.swap,rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Wanted: info on tracking devices
Date: Mon, 11 Dec 1995 18:52:30 -0800
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I need to find a tracking device, in a small package (say the
size of a pack of cigarettes or smaller) and receiver, range at least
a mile, hopefully for a reasonable price. Anyone know address/phone of
manufacturers, or plans (Popular electronics?) or kit?

RH
[e-mail]


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From: [e-mail] (Ed Fortmiller)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Way to open Icom BP-84/83 battery packs???
Date: Mon, 11 Dec 1995 18:08:29 -0500
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In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Ed
Fortmiller) wrote:

> I have two Icom BP-84 and one BP-83 battery packs which are
> dead. Anyone know of a way to nicely open these type of packs?
> I believe I could at least make use of the BP-84 to stuff AAs
> in if I could open it.  I╣m aware of and own the BP-90 which you
> can stuff yourself.

Well this afternoon I discovered that the bottom cap is glued on and by
doing a little prying with a small screwdriver I was able to pop it
off. I tried it on a second battery and that bottom appears to be glued on
better so I have not been able to get it off yet. I would rather not beat
the case up.

--
Ed Fortmiller | Hudson MA | [e-mail]


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From: [e-mail] ()
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Way to open Icom BP-84/83 battery packs???
Date: 12 Dec 1995 13:28:18 GMT
Organization: Comp.Center (RUS), U of Stuttgart, FRG
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In article <[e-mail]>,
Ed Fortmiller <[e-mail]> wrote:
>I tried it on a second battery and that bottom appears to be glued on
>better so I have not been able to get it off yet. I would rather not beat
>the case up.

Years ago I discovered a nice way to open a glued battery pack:
I (accidantally) charged it at about c/2, and well, the batteries
opened it for me, very nicely along the glued seam. POPP!

73, Moritz DL5UH



From Unknown Wed Dec 13 15:38:57 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Damien Dixsaut)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc,rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: What do you think of the KPC-9612 TNC ?
Date: 13 Dec 1995 13:34:36 GMT
Organization: Epita, French computer science school
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Sender: dixsau_d@neon (damien dixsaut)
Distribution: world
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        Hi everyone,

   I'm looking for someone who uses or has used a KPC-9612 TNC
(9600 / 1200 bds dual port TNC) from Kantronics. I would like to
know your opinion about it, particulary on the following points :

   -Does it work well with those "9600 ready" radios like my kenwood
    TM-255 ok TM-733 ?
   -Is it a true G3RUH on the 9600 bds port ?
   -What is the transfert rate (in cps) I can exect at 9600 bds ?

   Any comment about this TNC greatly appreciated !


           73 de Damien, F1LQJ in Paris, France

e-mail: [e-mail]
packet: [e-mail]


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From: [e-mail] (Raymond Sarrio)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: What Ham Radio Manufaturer gives the best customer service???
Date: Mon, 11 Dec 1995 13:09:35 -0800
Organization: Raymond Sarrio Co.
Lines: 11
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
NNTP-Posting-Host: host21.cyberg8t.com

Is it Kenwood, Icom, Yaesu, Ten-Tech, or Alinco? That is the new Ham Poll
question this month at URL
                        http://www.csz.com/sarrio.html.
Get the results in real time. While your there check out the results of
our previous poll questions. 73's Ray

--
Visit the Raymond Sarrio Co. Ham Radio Web Sore  http://www.csz.com/sarrio.html
Extensive Discount Ham Radio Catalog
Ham Poll--New poll questions asked monthly



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From: Hans Brakob <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: What radars on 900 MHz ?
Date: 12 Dec 1995 18:09:22 GMT
Organization: MicroBurst
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References: <[e-mail]>

>You might want to send a certified letter to San Diego Gas & Electri
>and the closest remaining FCC Field Enforcement Office advising them
>you believe that SDGE is causing destructive interference to a licen
>Part 97 radio system, with copies to FCC Gettysburg and ARRL HQ.

Since we have a secondary allocation in that band, by definition we
have no protection and must accept any interference that occurs
from other users.

--
- - - "Any sufficiently advanced technology is
      indistiguishable from magic."  A.C.Clarke
- - - Have you performed any radio magic
      this week?


From Unknown Wed Dec 13 15:39:00 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Arthur Chandler)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Why Morse Code Today?
Date: 8 Dec 1995 12:05:24 -0800
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  Why learn Morse Code -- an outmoded system devised for an era that
lacked all the improvements of modern communication? Everyone knows the
"CW gets through when even SSB can't" argument. But I want to urge
another, much simpler set of reasons to get into and enjoy CW:

     1) Morse Code is fun

     To experience the truth of this, I think that newcomers need to
SEND, and not just receive. I staggered though my exams after practising
with the Gordon West Tapes, a Mac CW program, etc. These were all very
good; but it wasn't until I actually started sending it that I got any
real pleasure out of CW.
     After I passed my 20 wpm, I rewarded myself with a Bencher keyer.
Sending with a nifty device like that is just plain fun. It makes spacing
much easier, and gives a smoother flow to the code.
     I find that, to send CW successfully, I have to put myself into a
kind of trance. I have to
     a) Figure out what I want to say, and keep it in mind while
     b) I break each word down in succession into its letter components,
     c) translate those letters into CW, then
     d) tell my fingers to do their job.

     There is a gap between each element in this process -- a gap that
probably differs for each operator. I find that I can translate just a
bit ahead of what my fingers can tap out.  I HAVE heard tales of
old-timers who were so proficient that they could carry on a normal
conversation with folks in the room with them while carrying on a
completely different conversation in CW! I'm not there yet -- but I can
get a glimpse of how that might be possible.
     This mental and physical process of translation may not be
everyone's cup of tea. But for those who are even moderately proficient
and have a good keyer -- well, give it a try. Take it from me: sending
adds real pleasure to your CW experience. If you've only practised
receiving, you're missing 80% or more of the fun.

     2) The Historical Dimension

     This too may not be for everyone. But every time I get on my HF rig
with the keyer I take great satisfaction that I'm using a mode of
conversation that is the Mother of All Long Distance Communications --
the parent of the very internet we are now using. Of course, they didn't
have fancy keyers or high-tech HF rigs in the olde days; but the mode of
communication is close to what they used a century and a half ago.  I
wonder if the historical pleasure of using this time-honored mode is
similar to what train buffs feel when they ride an old steam engine?

     Enough for now.  --...   ...--


From Unknown Wed Dec 13 15:39:02 1995
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
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From: [e-mail] (ROBERT CRAFTON)
Subject: Re: Why Morse Code Today?
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Date: Sun, 10 Dec 1995 19:41:30 GMT
References: <4aa5q4$[e-mail]>
Organization: Nauticom - Internet Access Provider
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2]
Lines: 55

Arthur Chandler ([e-mail]) wrote:
>   Why learn Morse Code -- an outmoded system devised for an era that
> lacked all the improvements of modern communication? Everyone knows the
> "CW gets through when even SSB can't" argument. But I want to urge
> another, much simpler set of reasons to get into and enjoy CW:

>      1) Morse Code is fun
>
>      To experience the truth of this, I think that newcomers need to
> SEND, and not just receive. I staggered though my exams after practising
> with the Gordon West Tapes, a Mac CW program, etc. These were all very
> good; but it wasn't until I actually started sending it that I got any
> real pleasure out of CW.
>      After I passed my 20 wpm, I rewarded myself with a Bencher keyer.
> Sending with a nifty device like that is just plain fun. It makes spacing
> much easier, and gives a smoother flow to the code.
>      I find that, to send CW successfully, I have to put myself into a
> kind of trance. I have to
>      a) Figure out what I want to say, and keep it in mind while
>      b) I break each word down in succession into its letter components,
>      c) translate those letters into CW, then
>      d) tell my fingers to do their job.

>      There is a gap between each element in this process -- a gap that
> probably differs for each operator. I find that I can translate just a
> bit ahead of what my fingers can tap out.  I HAVE heard tales of
> old-timers who were so proficient that they could carry on a normal
> conversation with folks in the room with them while carrying on a
> completely different conversation in CW! I'm not there yet -- but I can
> get a glimpse of how that might be possible.
>      This mental and physical process of translation may not be
> everyone's cup of tea. But for those who are even moderately proficient
> and have a good keyer -- well, give it a try. Take it from me: sending
> adds real pleasure to your CW experience. If you've only practised
> receiving, you're missing 80% or more of the fun.

>      2) The Historical Dimension

>      Enough for now.  --...   ...--

Amen to both of these ideas.  After 23 years of hamming, CW is still a
blast.  sure its nice to have a laid-back QSO on SSB or FM, but ;lTtheres
just a lot more fun and challenge pulling a CW contact out of a mess of
QRM.  Not only that, but when I got my first license, it was easy fotr
the average youngster with a papreboy income to get started in ham
radio.  My first shack only cost me $100.  Try to get started that cheap
in any other mode!!!  These days, the cheapest entry seems to be via 2
meter FM with an HT.  Nothing against 2 meters, but hey...ya can't work
any DX.  You can't talk to any one half way across the country.  For me
that's a big part of the enjoyment of Ham Radio.  2 meters is great for
getting to know all the local hams, though.

73 to all,
Crafty, WA3SLE.



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From: [e-mail] (charles copeland)
Subject: Re: Why Morse Code Today?
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest)
References: <4aa5q4$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]>
Date: Sun, 10 Dec 1995 20:22:39 GMT
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Sender: [e-mail]

In article <[e-mail]>,
ROBERT CRAFTON <[e-mail]> wrote:
>Arthur Chandler ([e-mail]) wrote:
>>   Why learn Morse Code -- an outmoded system devised for an era that
[snip]
>>      Enough for now.  --...   ...--
>
>Amen to both of these ideas.  After 23 years of hamming, CW is still a
>blast.  sure its nice to have a laid-back QSO on SSB or FM, but ;lTtheres
>just a lot more fun and challenge pulling a CW contact out of a mess of
>QRM.  Not only that, but when I got my first license, it was easy fotr
>the average youngster with a papreboy income to get started in ham
>radio.  My first shack only cost me $100.  Try to get started that cheap
>in any other mode!!!  These days, the cheapest entry seems to be via 2
>meter FM with an HT.  Nothing against 2 meters, but hey...ya can't work
>any DX.  You can't talk to any one half way across the country.  For me
>that's a big part of the enjoyment of Ham Radio.  2 meters is great for
>getting to know all the local hams, though.

You can work DX with 2m. I've worked stations 200 miles away during
"tropo" conditions. Does not happen often, but can be interesting.

Have heard of 2m tropo reaching across the country.



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From: [e-mail] (Williams - Debbie)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: WTB VHF REPEATER
Date: 10 Dec 1995 16:22:40 GMT
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Looking for a good used commercial (Motorola or GE) VHF repeater.  Please
send info to "[e-mail]".  Thanks!




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From: [e-mail] (MZap1)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: WTB: cheap 2-meter handhelds
Date: 10 Dec 1995 18:05:39 -0500
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Message-ID: <4afp43$[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail] (MZap1)
NNTP-Posting-Host: newsbf02.mail.aol.com

I'm looking to buy about ten 2-meter handheld units of 5 watts or more and
at least one base station with more power.  If you have any to sell or
know where I can find them cheap, please respond by email to
[e-mail].


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Subject: !! Hit High Tech WWW Site !!
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Shortwave, and many more interesting Technical Areas.  Includes
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with over 23,000 files online.  Very HOT High Tech WWW Site

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From: [e-mail] (Vincent Socci ph2828)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: "GRRReat"! ARRL chutzpah
Date: 15 Dec 95 17:54:23 GMT
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Originator: [e-mail]

Jerry B Altzman ([e-mail]) wrote:

: In any case, how come they need 4 months lead time to process my renewal?
: Granted, the interest on the $24 won't amount to much, but it's something.

As with any business, wouldn't YOU want to have an idea of sales figures
4 months in advance?  After all, they need to buy inventory, schedule
deliveries, plan production, etc. just as if they were manufacturing
autos, computers, or anything.

I believe it has nothing to do with processing time of your renewal.  I think
they just want a sales commitment from you so they can plan for the next
several months.  Granted, your one piddly subscription means very little
to a production line, but thousands of piddly subscriptions do.

In today's market, you really need to be planning "just-in-time" purchasing,
production, and delivery.  It saves you (the consumer) money in the
long-run, if they can keep their costs down by good production planning.

I'm not kissing up to QEX (I don't even subscribe to it), but it's just
good practice to plan your sales a half-year or longer in advance.

Don't sweat it!  Just think of it like you're getting an "Early-Bird Discount".

Vince

         ____________________________________________________________________
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From: [e-mail] (Pete Rossi)
Subject: 10/11 meter no-code idea (was Re: FCC shutdown)
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Sender: [e-mail]
Nntp-Posting-Host: gvlf6-a
Organization: Loral Defense Systems-Eagan  -  Paoli, PA
References: <49gf31$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]> <4apcui$[e-mail]>
Date: Fri, 15 Dec 1995 15:29:05 GMT
Lines: 36

In article <4apcui$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Eric E. Scott) writes:
>Hi,

>I'm a No Code Tech, and I'm in the process of upgrading to my General.
 .... stuff deleted..
>Prior to getting my Ham license, I played around with SSB CB.  I enjoyed it..


It just occurred to me...  The international regulations say..
"no HF privileges without a code test"  OK.  But what about CB?  They are
below 30 MHz and they don't even require a license!

So..  Why not give the wasteland between 10 and 11 meters back to the hams
and then permit No-codes to run 5 or 10 watts of SSB (and even CW) there?

Makes perfect sense to me..  It would be up to the no-codes and higher
class hams to set a good example to clean up the band.  Be sort of like
giving someone an old run-down house and saying -- it's yours if you fix
it up.

Only problem I see is... if there is enough activity, the present illegal
activity my decide to move somewhere else..  Which I guess is OK as long
as it is not above 28 MHz.  But if you get enough ham activity (including
from higher class licenses) maybe the illegals will at least go for the
no-code.  For this to work though, regulations on the new band, call it
10 1/2 meters, would need to be enforced at least as will as they are on
the rest of our bands.. to try to curb the illegal activity already there.

I think this idea or some variation is worth further consideration.

---

Pete Rossi - WA3NNA
[e-mail]
Loral Defense Systems-Eagan    (formerly  Unisys Government Systems Group)
Valley Forge Engineering Center - Paoli, Pennsylvania


From Unknown Sun Dec 17 15:48:04 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Drew Durigan)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: 10/11 meter no-code idea (was Re: FCC shutdown)
Date: 15 Dec 1995 19:53:05 GMT
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So..  Why not give the wasteland between 10 and 11 meters back to the
hams
>and then permit No-codes to run 5 or 10 watts of SSB (and even CW) there?

>
>Makes perfect sense to me..  It would be up to the no-codes and higher
>class hams to set a good example to clean up the band.  Be sort of like
>giving someone an old run-down house and saying -- it's yours if you
fix
>it up.
>
>Only problem I see is... if there is enough activity, the present
illegal
>activity my decide to move somewhere else..  Which I guess is OK as
long
>as it is not above 28 MHz.  But if you get enough ham activity
(including
>from higher class licenses) maybe the illegals will at least go for the
>no-code.  For this to work though, regulations on the new band, call it
>10 1/2 meters, would need to be enforced at least as will as they are
on
>the rest of our bands.. to try to curb the illegal activity already
there.

There's another problem, too.  The relatively small numbers of hams with
5-10 watts on these frequencies would be no match for the literally
thousands of outbanders who routinely run 1,000 watts or more on there.
Nice idea, but the numbers are against it.

-Drew in Charlotte-
 KF4DDM




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From: [e-mail] (Mistie Mullarkey)
Subject: Re: 10/11 meter no-code idea (was Re: FCC shutdown)
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Pete Rossi ([e-mail]) writes:
> It just occurred to me...  The international regulations say..
> "no HF privileges without a code test"  OK.  But what about CB?  They are
> below 30 MHz and they don't even require a license!
>
> So..  Why not give the wasteland between 10 and 11 meters back to the hams
> and then permit No-codes to run 5 or 10 watts of SSB (and even CW) there?
>
> Makes perfect sense to me..  It would be up to the no-codes and higher
> class hams to set a good example to clean up the band.  Be sort of like
> giving someone an old run-down house and saying -- it's yours if you fix
> it up.
>
> Only problem I see is... if there is enough activity, the present illegal
> activity my decide to move somewhere else..  Which I guess is OK as long
> as it is not above 28 MHz.  But if you get enough ham activity (including
> from higher class licenses) maybe the illegals will at least go for the
> no-code.  For this to work though, regulations on the new band, call it
> 10 1/2 meters, would need to be enforced at least as will as they are on
> the rest of our bands.. to try to curb the illegal activity already there.
>
> I think this idea or some variation is worth further consideration.
>

  Why bother changing anything? No-codes can just practice their CW and
use SSB on 11Meters now. I don't see what the big deal is.

--





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From: [e-mail] (Rod Greene)
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Subject: Re: 1996 Dayton Hamvention
Date: Thu, 14 Dec 1995 13:41:13 GMT
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[e-mail](Jim Sheffield) wrote:

>Hello fellow hams:
>
>I am planning to attend the big event for the
>first time - the 1996 Dayton Hamvention.
>Can anyone help with information?  Such as
>dates, costs, where it is located, where to
>preregister, where to stay, etc.
>
>It will be a long way to go, is it worth it?  I am
>especially interested in the swap events and
>getting some older HF equipment.
>
>Any help would be appreciated.  73 de Jim, KB7ET
>[e-mail]

Just received their '96 flyer in the mail.  Address is:
Dayton Amateur Radio Association, Inc
Box 964
Dayton, OH 45401-0964

Write and request the information packet
73, Rod w7zrc



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Hello Jim,

1995 was my first time at Dayton. YES it was worth the
trip. The date in 96 is May 17,18,& 19
Advance tickets are $12.00 or $15.00 at the door.
The Hamvention is at the Dayton Hara Arena & Exhibition Center.
You can call this number for info. 513-276-6930 between
the hours of 8:30am to 12:30pm. You must have a touch tone phone.
Have them send you a planing guide. It has all the info you will
need. Hope this helps.
73 Cathy KB8VON


Jim Sheffield ([e-mail]) wrote:
: Hello fellow hams:
:
: I am planning to attend the big event for the
: first time - the 1996 Dayton Hamvention.
: Can anyone help with information?  Such as
: dates, costs, where it is located, where to
: preregister, where to stay, etc.
:
: It will be a long way to go, is it worth it?  I am
: especially interested in the swap events and
: getting some older HF equipment.
:
: Any help would be appreciated.  73 de Jim, KB7ET
: [e-mail]
--
Cathy Cotts- KB8VON
[e-mail]


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From: [e-mail] (Pat Masterson)
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Subject: 2 meter repeater amp wanted.
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 I'm looking for a full duty 2 meter amp. Needs to put out
 at least 50 watts, not more than 75. It must be rugged, and
 be able to run continuously in a remote shack. If you have
 any suggestions, please let me know. Thanks. -pat m.
--
*  Pat Masterson  B38-111, Northrop Grumman Corp.*  Ham:KE2LJ
*  1111 Stewart Ave., Bethpage NY 11714          *  Packet: [e-mail]
*  516-346-6316                                  *  President Grumman Amateur
*  email: [e-mail]                        *  Radio Club  WA2LQO


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From: [e-mail] (Michael P. Deignan)
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Subject: Re: 3.88 MHz sounded like CB tonight.  Yuck
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In article <49u7h1$[e-mail]>, Bill Nelson <[e-mail]> wrote:

>I know a recent Extra licensee who has never picked
>up a soldering iron, and couldn't draw a simple oscillator circuit if he
>had to. His operating ability comes from a box that has no-tune finals
>and a built in autotuner. As long as he has the commercially built antenna
>hooked up to the rig, all he has to do is turn it on, tune to the frequency
>he wishes to use, and transmit.
...
>Now, this is an extreme example

Extreme example? I've got news for you: In my area, its the *rule*, not
the exception.

Your example is exactly the type of "ham" that affirmative-action amateur
radio has yielded to the hobby today. And as the standards are
continuously lowered, it will continue to be the type of ham that gets
into the hobby, until one way you'll wake up in the morning and all
of a sudden you'll realize that the word "ham" has become synonymous
with the description you just put forth.

MD
--
--
-- "Who needs looks when you've got taste?"
--


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From: [e-mail] (Joel B Levin)
Subject: Re: 3.88 MHz sounded like CB tonight.  Yuck
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In <4a32ev$[e-mail]>,
   Michael P. Deignan <[e-mail] (Michael P. Deignan)>
wrote:
|In article <49u7h1$[e-mail]>, Bill Nelson <[e-mail]> wrote:
|>I know a recent Extra licensee who has never picked
|>up a soldering iron, ...
|
|Your example is exactly the type of "ham" that affirmative-action amateur
|radio has yielded to the hobby today.

Are you still complaining about those no-code extras?
--
Nets: [e-mail]  |  "Oops."
  or [e-mail]|
pots: [phone]  |
ARS:  KD1ON          |                                            -- Lothos


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Subject: Re: 3.88 MHz sounded like CB tonight.  Yuck
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In article <30d02758.222421423@192.80.84.4>,
        Joel B Levin <[e-mail]> wrote:

>Are you still complaining about those no-code extras?

Yup. Hear them every day, talking about such things as "how do I tell
if my SWR is too high".

MD
--
--
-- "Who needs looks when you've got taste?"
--


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From: Brian Suggs <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: 3.88 MHz sounded like CB tonight.  Yuck
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Joel B Levin wrote:
>
> In <4a32ev$[e-mail]>,
>    Michael P. Deignan <[e-mail] (Michael P. Deignan)>
> wrote:
> |In article <49u7h1$[e-mail]>, Bill Nelson <[e-mail]> wrote:
> |>I know a recent Extra licensee who has never picked
> |>up a soldering iron, ...
> |
> |Your example is exactly the type of "ham" that affirmative-action amateur
> |radio has yielded to the hobby today.
>
> Are you still complaining about those no-code extras?
> --

Just to set the record straight:  I have too picked up a soldering iron.
I still have the scar on my hand to prove it!  But seriously, what is the
problem?  How does the amount of knowledge and experience that someone
else chooses to acquire affect what you can get out of amateur radio?
The license is there to satisfy government regulations.  There is little
point in trying to attribute any value to it beyond that.  If you want to
be proud of your experience and accomplishments, there's no need to point
to your license to say "See, look what I did!"  Instead, point to the
accomplishments themselves.  (That is, if you feel the need to get the
recognition from others in the first place.)

-Brian


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From: "Edwin J. Bailen (& sometimes Irene Beattie)" <[e-mail]>
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On 14 Dec 1995, Michael P. Deignan wrote:

> Date: 14 DEC 1995 00:12:16 -0500
> From: Michael P. Deignan <[e-mail]>
> Newgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
> Subject: Re: 3.88 MHz sounded like CB tonight. Yuck
>
> In article <49u7h1$[e-mail]>, Bill Nelson <[e-mail]> wrote:
>
> >I know a recent Extra licensee who has never picked
> >up a soldering iron, and couldn't draw a simple oscillator circuit if he
> >had to. His operating ability comes from a box that has no-tune finals
> >and a built in autotuner. As long as he has the commercially built antenna
> >hooked up to the rig, all he has to do is turn it on, tune to the frequency
> >he wishes to use, and transmit.
> ...
> >Now, this is an extreme example
>
> Extreme example? I've got news for you: In my area, its the *rule*, not
> the exception.
>
> Your example is exactly the type of "ham" that affirmative-action amateur
> radio has yielded to the hobby today. And as the standards are
> continuously lowered, it will continue to be the type of ham that gets
> into the hobby, until one way you'll wake up in the morning and all
> of a sudden you'll realize that the word "ham" has become synonymous
> with the description you just put forth.
>
> MD
> --
> --
> -- "Who needs looks when you've got taste?"
> --
>
>
My father-in-law (W9OIB) was wondering why 160 meters wasn't quite as bad as
the other bands. My personal opinion is that the only think protecting
top band is the lack of off-the-shelf solutions (especially those that fit on
city lots).

   Ed Bailen -- N5KZW  /  Irene Beattie -- KA5DYF (on a 10-acre hilltop)
          His religion?  Geek Orthodox!



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From: [e-mail] (Scott Rosenfeld NF3I)
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Subject: A good plan for licensing!
Date: 13 Dec 1995 19:49:48 GMT
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True or false:

ELECTRICAL ENGINEERS:

1) As an Electrical Engineering major, I needed to know English.
2) As an Electrical Engineering major, I needed to know how to write.
3) As an Electrical Engineering major, I needed to study English lit.
4) As an Electrical Engineering major, I needed to minor in English.

For me, numbers 1 and 2 were true, 3 and 4 were false.  I showed an
interest in neither #3 or #4.  I didn't learn 'em.  But I had to learn
English, and I had to learn how to write effectively.

ENGLISH majors:

1) I had to study at least one course in college-level mathematics.
2) I had to take at least one class in Pre-Calculus.
3) I had to study Calculus.
4) I had to study Complex Variables and Fourier transform theory.

Most English majors didn't have to take tons of math.  It wasn't
pertinent, although a MINIMUM competency was necessary.

*********************************************************************

So what does this have to do with Amateur Radio?  Lots.

We naturally concentrate and focus our energies on what we like and
are good at doing.  I don't practice waterskiing because I don't
live near a lake, and I don't have the prequisite balance.  I do,
however, enjoy woodworking because I'm pretty good at it, and I enjoy
it.  I'm an Electrical Engineer because I have a mind for it; while
not a poor writer, I don't really like writing, and I HATED English
lit in high school.

*********************************************************************

The proposal?  A BASIC license, covering digital, phone, and CW (5 wpm)
as a minimum competency exam.  Beyond this, if you want more spectrum
for operating in the voice modes (FM, SSB, AM, etc.), take some tests
focusing on that PORTION of the amateur radio service.  Like CW?
Want more bandwidth?  Take a CW exam, including a written exam.
Prefer digital?  Study up on Pactor, Amtor, Packet, RTTY, and take
a FOCUSED exam.

Essentially, pick an area of interest, study it well, and go and take
the exam, which would be FOCUSED on a single area of interest (pick
from DIGITAL, CW, and PHONE).

********************************************************************

This would achieve a population of hams with a basic competency in
all disciplines, but folks wanting to really get into the digital
modes (yes, I know, many TNCs can do CW) could focus on ONLY that
portion.  They would be restricted to a certain part of the band,
and the population would be able to study EXACTLY what it wanted to.

Yes, I know, I know, there would be problems with callsign groups
and other junk, but something like this COULD and WOULD work with
some work.  No more "I shouldn't HAVE to do 13 wpm to use 20m."
--
Scott Rosenfeld NF3I Burtonsville, MD FM19 QRV 40-10/6/2/440
** Yes, you CAN do VHF contests with 25W and omni antennas **
Still stuck at 138 countries confirmed on HF w/dipoles...
--------------------------------------------------------------


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From: [e-mail] (Greg Danylchenko)
Subject: Advice Plse: TS-690 vs TS-850
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I would appreciate some advice.

I am looking for an HF base unit with 6 meter capability. Should I go with
a TS-690 (the TS-450 with 6m and no auto antenna tuner) or the TS-850SAT
(HF only but with auto antenna tuner) and add a 6m transverter at some
point? The price difference between the TS-690 (with no auto tuner) and the
TS-850 (with no 6m transverter) is only $150.00.

A tough decision, I know, but any advice would be appreciated.

Thanks a lot.
--
Greg Danylchenko           [e-mail]
VE3YTZ


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From: [e-mail] (Bill Sohl  Budd Lake)
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Subject: Re: Advice Plse: TS-690 vs TS-850
Date: 15 Dec 1995 23:37:03 GMT
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Greg Danylchenko ([e-mail]) wrote:
: I would appreciate some advice.

: I am looking for an HF base unit with 6 meter capability. Should I go with
: a TS-690 (the TS-450 with 6m and no auto antenna tuner) or the TS-850SAT
: (HF only but with auto antenna tuner) and add a 6m transverter at some
: point? The price difference between the TS-690 (with no auto tuner) and the
: TS-850 (with no 6m transverter) is only $150.00.

: A tough decision, I know, but any advice would be appreciated.

I can't give any specific comparison, but as a TS-690 owner (I opted for
the auto tuner too even thogh I use the rig mostly on 6m) I have been
very pleased with the unit.  I have confirmed contacts on many states
for 6m with just the 50w capability of the rig and a 5 element beam
up about 30 feet.  Snagged California on a double skip opening
18 months ago.  Anyway, since getting the 690, I've now added additional
filters for 1.8Khz sideband and 500hz CW.

As to a transverter, I think it is an option, but the 690 I can more
easily use to drive
a 6m linear if I get into as the band comes back in the next fe
years.

--
Cheers, ---------------------------------------------------------------
Bill Sohl  K2UNK     (Budd lake, New Jersey)      ([e-mail])
ARRL Local Government Liason, Mount Olive Township
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From: [e-mail] (Clark Savage Turner)
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Subject: Re: Advice Plse: TS-690 vs TS-850
Date: 16 Dec 1995 23:19:33 -0800
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In <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Greg Danylchenko) writes:

>I am looking for an HF base unit with 6 meter capability. Should I go with

Hi Greg:

Gee, I never checked the price difference.  I would get the 850, it
is much more radio, though the 690 is fine.  The 850 has nice extra
features like slope tuning and other filter selection possibilities.
For $150 difference, pick up the Ten Tec 6 meter transverter kit
and go 10 watts on 6 meters with that.  Of course, the difference
will be that the 690 will give you much more power on 6 meters,
but the 850 with transverter probably gives you more receiver,
and a 6 meter brick for more power could be added later.  That is
my take on it.

Clark
WA3JPG


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From: [e-mail] (1LT John Gorkos, NC25 PL)
Subject: American Soldier/Ham in Bosnia
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Here's one for the legal eagles ou there:
  I am an American licensed ham slated for deployment to the former
Republic of Yugoslavia for Peace IFOR operations.  I recently purchased
an Icom IC-706 and a tuner to take with me to the region.  I am mildly
concerned about the laws and rules that will apply to me while I'm over
there.
  I have a (useful) technician-class license, meaning I know morse code,
and a pair of expired CSCE's for the written general and advanced tests.
I can copy the 18 wpm ARRL bulletins, but since I haven't been back to
the states for 18 months, I haven't been able to upgrade.  I would like
to operate DX HF while over there, preferably 20 and 40 meters.  I am an
experienced HF operator (WAS on 20m and 10m) from my time as Chief
operator at the W2KGY military station at the US Military Academy.  The
questions I have are:
  Who's laws do I fall under for licensing?  Last I heard, the Bosnian
Communications Commision is a bit understaffed and, well, bombed out.
Do I fall under U.S. laws since we're there on military operations?
  What call sign/prefix should I use.  Has the ITU assigned a prefix for
the BH republic yet?  I imaging a KB5 call on 80 meters in the heart of
Europe would generate quite a stir...
  Does the FCC have any prosecuting authority over me should I turn out
to be operating illegally?  I suppose the Bosnian government could show
up on my commo site one day and demand I turn off my radios, but we have
an awful lot of firepower behind my measly 100 watts..  :)
  What type of antenna should I use for a very windy mountaintop?  I've
got a pre-made G5RV fed with ladder-line (yeah, REAL hams don't buy
pre-made wire antennas, right?) that seems to give good performance on
80 and 40, but I've been dissapointed with it on 20m.  I have PLENTY of
wire and insulators, but I really can't go outside my perimeter to
string huge wire antennas (land mines and all, you know).

Any other thoughts on my military DXpedetion would be appreciated.
Please e-mail, as NNTP is irregular at my site.

1LT John Gorkos, KB5HHR (yes, that's 17 dits in a row...)
Signal Platoon Leader
[e-mail]
http://n440sig.darmstadt.army.mil <for info on my unit.>




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From: [e-mail] (Rich)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Anyone use a FTH-2005?
Date: 14 Dec 1995 11:56:47 -0500
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 Hi, folks. I have come across a nice little FM business band handheld, a
Yaesu FTH-2005. I'd like to use it for Hamming. After some tinkering, I
discovered a panel glued to the front of it that conceals several
un-labeled buttons that let you program most functions. It tunes from
50Mhz to 300 Mhz, I am not sure of the transmit range, but the RX range
seems to be centered around 150-170 MHz, and won't seem to reliably RX in
the amateur band. Sometimes it works, sometimes it only TX's. It works
perfectly in the band range mentioned above. The offset seems to be 600Khz
up or down or simplex only, can't figure out how or even if it can do odd
splits. It has programmable encode/decode PL that seems to work.

 This seems like a sturdy little radio and would be great to work the
local repeaters with. Does anyone know how I might widen/tune the RX for
amateur band, and maybe tell me how/if it can do odd splits? I've sent a
message requesting literature about this radio to Yaesu America, but they
already said it will be several weeks before they MIGHT get back to me.
Any input from you folks would be appreciated! I'd prefer a direct answer
to my E-mail address, if it's not too much trouble, my providor is beta
testing the software that my newsreader is on, and it crashes frequently!
Thanks!

 Rich, KC4UEB

[e-mail]

--
--
 [e-mail]



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From: [e-mail] (Don Young)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: ARLB100 Morse requirement stays
Date: Fri, 15 Dec 1995 02:25:10 GMT
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[e-mail] (michael silva) wrote:

>In <48d6n1$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Drew
>Durigan) writes:

>>You cannot obtain a license and operate legally on 10-meters without
>>passing a Morse code test...but yet you can go into any truck stop
>>and, relatively inexpensively, purchase a radio and amplifier for
>>outband 11-meters...

>>Question: wouldn't these
>>operators be much more inclined to make the transition to legal,
>>licensed operators if the Morse requirement was eliminated?

>Ham radio as rehabilitation?  Nowhere in 97.1 can I find as one of the
>reasons for the existence of the amateur service "to lure lawbreakers
>into legal, licensed operation".  Besides, you can find extra-legal
>operation in many different parts of the spectrum other than 11 meters.
> Whatever our standards, they should exist to further and improve the
>amateur service, not as bait for our 11 meter friends.

>Mike, KK6GM

Here in Texas and other parts of the US, certain individuals who used
to be on 11 meters have found the joys of two meters and are there
illegaly.  They run down the highway usiing two meters and marine vhf
radios.  They don't seem to care for getting or dese to get a license.

What we need is for the FCC to enforce current rules, not relax them.

Don, KA2IMX



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From: [e-mail]
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Subject: ARLP052 Propagation de KT7H
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SB PROP @ ARL $ARLP052
ARLP052 Propagation de KT7H

ZCZC AP21
QST de W1AW
Propagation Forecast Bulletin 52  ARLP052
From Tad Cook, KT7H
Seattle, WA  December 15, 1995
To all radio amateurs

SB PROP ARL ARLP052
ARLP052 Propagation de KT7H

This is the last propagation bulletin for 1995.  After this week the
author will be on vacation in the state of Bahia in Brazil until the
new year.  The next bulletin will be for January 5, 1996.

Solar activity last week was unchanged when compared to the previous
week with an identical average solar flux of 73.4.  Geomagnetic
conditions were stable, with K indices of zero or one over many
periods.

Don't look for much change over the next month.  We are near the
bottom of this solar cycle, and there just aren't any active solar
regions that should cause any change.  One exception is on December
24 when a recurring coronal hole should provide some geomagnetic
instability, with rising A and K indices.  The effect should fade
over the last week of the month.  Otherwise look for solar flux to
continue to meander around the low seventies.

Sunspot Numbers for December 7 through 13 were 14, 11, 29, 25, 29,
15 and 15, with a mean of 19.7.  10.7 cm flux was 74.1, 74.1, 73.9,
73.5, 73.4, 72.3 and 72.6, with a mean of 73.4.
NNNN
/EX


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From: [e-mail] (Are Barstad)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Articles fo local ham newsletter
Date: 14 Dec 1995 05:36:31 GMT
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In article <4ao0dg$[e-mail]>,
   Burt Fisher <[e-mail]> wrote:

>Hams are a joke.
>
>#================#
>|  Burt Fisher   |
>| Amateur call   |
>|    K1OIK       |
>#================#

Speak for yourself


------------------------------------------
My opinions are my own, not my employer's.


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From: Burt Fisher <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Articles fo local ham newsletter
Date: 14 Dec 1995 01:59:12 GMT
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Hams are a joke.

--
#================#=====================================================#
|  Burt Fisher   |  Teacher of video, broadcasting and electronics     |
| Amateur call   |         South Dennis, Ma. (Cape Cod)                |
|    K1OIK       |  The less you say, the more people will remember    |
#================#=====================================================#
|                            [e-mail]                          |
#======================================================================#

I never make the mistake of arguing with people for whose opinions I have
no respect.
Edward Gibbon


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This test is for ham radio operators:


1. Do you say QSL on voice?_________

2. Do you say "For ID" after your call?________

3. Is it rare for you to have a contact longer than 20 minutes?_______

4. Do you check into traffic nets to up the "body count?"_________

5. Do you check into traffic nets for any reason?__________

6. Do you participate in contests and like it?________

7. Are you overweight and hold an Extra Class license?________

8. Have your worked more countries than the number of sexual encounters
with your spouse?____________

9. Are you a regular on a two meter repeater?___________

10. Do you dislike children in general?______________

11. Do you ask for help and when received from a number of hams send out
a general thank you to everyone in the world?___________

12. Do you think it is wrong to talk about politics or other interesting
topics on ham radio?_______________


How to Score:

Number of Yes answers:

                   2 or less- are you sure you are a ham?
                   4 to 6- you are on the edge of being human or ham.
                   6 to 8-you are a typical ham-very boring.
                   8 to 1O-check your pulse, if you find one re-take
                   test.
                   1O or more. Call the funeral home, send your name
                   into QST as a Silent Key.


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From: [e-mail] (Bob Dillon)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Articles fo local ham newsletter
Date: 14 Dec 1995 11:47:45 -0500
Organization: Yale CS Mail/News Gateway
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In <4akqin$[e-mail]>
[e-mail] (Robert Moldenhauer) writes:

>Hi,
>
>I'm the editor for a local ham newsletter herer in Madison, Wisc. USA.  I'm
>looking for good articles to pass on to 200+ hams in the area.  Informative
>and funny articles always appreciated.
>
>Thanks.


Seems like this would be a good basis for either another newsgroup or a
listserve.  There's a lot of ham newsletter editors in the world!

Bob WB9LTN <[e-mail]>

"Without education we are in the horrible and deadly danger of taking
educated people seriously."  - - G. K. Chesterton

junk
junk
junk
junk
junk (to keep the remailer fat and happy)




From Unknown Sun Dec 17 15:48:27 1995
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From: [e-mail] (gloria)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Articles fo local ham newsletter
Date: Thu, 14 Dec 1995 09:25:34 -0600
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In article <4akqin$[e-mail]>, [e-mail]
(Robert Moldenhauer) wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I'm the editor for a local ham newsletter herer in Madison, Wisc. USA.  I'm
> looking for good articles to pass on to 200+ hams in the area.  Informative
> and funny articles always appreciated.
>
> Thanks.


You may be interested in my new web site. I have articles there that may
be re-printed in club newsletters. I plan to be adding a new article
approximately once a month. Just getting this started, so hope it is
beneficial.

http://www.idir.net/~medcalf/ztx/

73 gloria ka5ztx


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From: [e-mail] (Walt Davidson)
Newsgroups: uk.radio.amateur,rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Bahamas DX-pedition - Dec 1995
Date: Sat, 16 Dec 1995 23:16:45 GMT
Organization: home in Tewkesbury
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The complete logs for the Squarebashers' December 1995 DX-pedition to
The Bahamas are now accessible on the World-Wide Web.  There is also a
short description of the expedition, written by Tim (G4VXE/C6A).

The URL is  http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/timkirby

73 de G3NYY/C6A

--
Walt Davidson               E-mail: [e-mail]
                                    [e-mail]



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From: Kenneth Swain <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Batteries
Date: 14 Dec 1995 13:18:20 GMT
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Looking for comprehensive articles on using batteries in amatuer radio
for hf transmissions. Prefer something that goes from a to z in explaning
the electronics. Have all the Arrl books, but they are not sufficiently
directed at the laymen. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Ken,
KC4PLV



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From: Chris Boone <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Best repeater controller under US$150
Date: 14 Dec 1995 03:06:12 GMT
Organization: ENTERGY/Gulf States Utilities
Lines: 17
Message-ID: <4ao4b5$63c$[e-mail]>
References: <4alm79$[e-mail]>

Your first criteria sets the pace...NO rptr controller on the
market is UNDER 150 dollars...

If you want a good expandable conntroller, look at the LINKCOM
series of RLC systems....the RLC 4 and 5 are the lowest cost
models and can support DVR (for use on IDs), links and autopatch


73
Chris
WB5ITT

--
Senior Telecommunications Technician  [e-mail]
ENTERGY/Gulf States Utilities         1:106/4267 FIDOnet
WB5ITT - Advanced Class               BBS- 409-447-4267 (WBBS)
PG-9-5322  FCC Commercial             409-525-2001 PhoneMail 24hr


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From: [e-mail] (Penn McClatchey)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Best repeater controller under US$150
Summary: Kantronics
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Date: 14 Dec 95 13:35:19 GMT
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In article <4ao4b5$63c$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Chris Boone) writes:
> Your first criteria sets the pace...NO rptr controller on the
> market is UNDER 150 dollars...

Not true.  I'm thinking about buying the Kantronics entry level
kit.  It's $99.  Assembled $150.   Has on-board voice ID.
Anyone know if these are any good?  Does the kit go together well?

73,

Penn

--
Penn M. McClatchey (Southern Aluminum Finishing Co, Atlanta, GA, USA)
Architectural Aluminum. Custom Fabrication. Paint, Powder Coating, Anodizing.
[e-mail]   Amateur Radio WB4DPT   Voice: 404-355-1560,ext231


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From: [e-mail] (Chris Conkln)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Best repeater controller under US$150
Date: 14 Dec 1995 23:37:01 GMT
Organization: SBT, Inc.
Lines: 28
Message-ID: <4aq92i$[e-mail]>
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NNTP-Posting-Host: 206.28.174.111
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In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Penn McClatchey) wrote:
>In article <4ao4b5$63c$[e-mail]>,
[e-mail] (Chris Boone) writes:
>> Your first criteria sets the pace...NO rptr controller on the
>> market is UNDER 150 dollars...
>
>Not true.  I'm thinking about buying the Kantronics entry level
>kit.  It's $99.  Assembled $150.   Has on-board voice ID.
>Anyone know if these are any good?  Does the kit go together well?

Have not heard of Kantronics entry into the market.  Bad words I heard about
both GLB and Hamtronics controllers (overpriced, underfeatured, etc.)

For $139 (I think..) the RC-100 from Micro Computer Concepts gives you the
basic features you wanted (CWID, ability to expand to voice ID, DTMF control
of basic features, and 1 radio link with TTL logic lines (16??) and remote
tx/rx on off via DTMF.
No phone patch, wouldn't be real pretty to interface either- that would be the
RC-1000 for $239.

But if you get over the sticker shock, Link Comm products are the way to go.
RLC-1 goes for $199- again no autopatch but everything else *and* an RS-232
connection for ezy programming.


Chris Conklin
Amateur Radio station N0PAV
[e-mail]


From Unknown Sun Dec 17 15:48:33 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Chris Conkln)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Best repeater controller under US$150
Date: 16 Dec 1995 03:55:19 GMT
Organization: Ill Eagle Enterprises, Inc.
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In article <4assdt$hed$[e-mail]>,
   Chris Boone <[e-mail]> wrote:
>The RLC 1 cannot be upgraded to voice nor does it support
>autopatch....

I think you are quoting my post here.

>The RC-100 and 1000s does not support multiple rptrs/links like
>the LinkComs can, nor do they have the speech
>vocabulary like the LinkComs...considering that the ACC systems
>used to be the standard, the LinkComs are CHEAP compared to
>them....

This is true, but for the record: Only once you get to the $649 RLC-2 from
Link do you get the flexible pre-recorded (Texas Instruments Speak-n-spell)
vocabulary.  RLC-1 for $199 does get you one flexible remote port, the RLC-4
does have a DVR option (which will bring the total price to around $500) - but
this seems to blow the original request's #1 rule of 'not over $150' all to
hell.

>For what HE was asking for, the Linkcom RLC series is the one to
>go with....for little link capacity while having voice ids and
>autopatch... CATs are also good units...

The only thing close to the original $150 price range though are the RLC-1,
which lacks any easy voice proviso (although some creative control of the TTL
outputs to an external DVR might be possible, this would entail some serious
R&D time.  By no means plug-n-play).

Otherwise I have to agree with Chris (not me, the 5-th area one) that the Link
boxes are the controllers of choice if you want/need maximum control and
flexibility- but you might as well flush the $150 idea real quick.  The RLC-3
with the autopatch option I believe is $1349 or more now.

>73
>Chris
>--
>Senior Telecommunications Technician  [e-mail]
>ENTERGY/Gulf States Utilities         1:106/4267 FIDOnet
>WB5ITT - Advanced Class                      BBS- 409-447-4267 (WBBS)
>PG-9-5322  FCC Commercial             409-525-2001 PhoneMail 24hr

73, Chris (The nothing-district one) [operating a RLC-2, and 2x MCC RC-1000,
as well as maintaining 2 Scom 7k's- and a bunch of other various crapola]


Chris Conklin
Amateur Radio station N0PAV -- 444.65Mhz Cedar Falls/Waterloo IA -- EN32SM

New: [e-mail]
Old: [e-mail]


From Unknown Sun Dec 17 15:48:33 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Me)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Callsign Help..
Date: 15 Dec 1995 17:57:53 -0500
Organization: Exchange Network Services, Inc.
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Message-ID: <4asuhh$[e-mail]>
NNTP-Posting-Host: en.com


  I am going to the BaHAMas..  I need to know if you have to add
anything to your Call?  Like when I went to Canada I was told to say:
KC8AGT/VE3.

                                                Thanks,

                                                [e-mail]



From Unknown Sun Dec 17 15:48:34 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Gary Danaher)
Reply-To: [e-mail]
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Distribution: world
Subject: Re: Callsign Help..
Date: 17 Dec 1995 02:10:30 GMT
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Organization: Apple Corps of Dallas
Lines: 8

>>>> I am going to the BaHAMas..  I need to know if you have to add
anything to your Call?  Like when I went to Canada I was told to say:
KC8AGT/VE3.

You need to contact the arrl to see what is needed for a reciprocal license.
A US operator can go to Canada and operate without a lot of trouble, but not
in Mexico, and I doubt anywhere else...this isn't Europe!



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From: [e-mail] (Iain Philipps)
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In article <4a6j73$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] says...

>Huh? First I heard of that. I operated in Europe before under a
>reciprocal license (I have a US General Class license) and was given the
>equivalent of a Class A license with all privileges of each county that
>I a reciprocal license in. The bandplans  for my US license meant
>nothing at all and I could operate anywhere that my European

You've missed the point, I'm afraid :-)

The issue is this:- There is *NO* way (that I know of, please correct me
...) that the FCC will issue a CALLSIGN to someone who desn't fill out a
610 with documented credit for the various examination elements. What
the *will* do is issue an 'alien's permit' against a 610-A. This leaves a
U.K. licensee operating as W/whatever and therefore bound by the
frequencies/power limits (where <=) of their home licence.

For a U.S. General Class or above visiting the U.K., the DTI will either
issue a LICENCE which shows the call as Gx/whatever *OR* they will issue
a full A class licence. If you ask them they'll tell you that you won't
be permitted to operate on 70.0-70.5MHz with the former, whereas you'll
be entitled to with the latter.

Did this clear anything up, or just make matters worse ? :-)


73 - G0RDI / N2TLY



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From: [e-mail] (Michael Crestohl)
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It is true that all you need is to pass the license tests and have a mailing
address in the U.S.  I've held a U.S. callsign since 1978 while still a
Canadian resident.  I had a P.O. box for my mail.

On the matter of reciprocal licensing:  You follow the rules of the country
AND the rules of your own license class at home.  You apply whichever set
of regs are more restrictive.  This is how the concept was explained to
me by Art Stark, VE3ZS (SK) formerly the D.O.T./D.O.C. official over
whose official signature all the TRC-24 and TRC-25 (TRC = Telecommunications
Regulation Circular) were released in the 1960s and 1970s in Canada. These
documents were the syllabus of study for the Amateur/ Amateur Advanced Radio
Operator Certificates and the amateur regulations).  I believe these are
called R.I.C.s nowadays.

73

Michael Crestohl, KH6KD/W1, VE2XZ, etc......


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I am a Green Card holder AND a US licensed ham.

73 de KB2EOq



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[e-mail] (Michael Crestohl) wrote:
>
>It is true that all you need is to pass the license tests and have a mailing
>address in the U.S.  I've held a U.S. callsign since 1978 while still a
>Canadian resident.  I had a P.O. box for my mail.
>
>On the matter of reciprocal licensing:  You follow the rules of the country
>AND the rules of your own license class at home.  You apply whichever set
>of regs are more restrictive.  This is how the concept was explained to
>me by Art Stark, VE3ZS (SK) formerly the D.O.T./D.O.C. official over
>whose official signature all the TRC-24 and TRC-25 (TRC = Telecommunications
>Regulation Circular) were released in the 1960s and 1970s in Canada. These
>documents were the syllabus of study for the Amateur/ Amateur Advanced Radio
>Operator Certificates and the amateur regulations).  I believe these are
>called R.I.C.s nowadays.
>

Regretably, Mr. Stark was wrong.  He was wrong in that it would be impossible for
the Canadian authorities to enforce Amercian laws in Canadian territory.  The only
laws that the courts can enforce are those that are have been enacted or promulgated
appropriately.  Therefore, visiting operators are subject to the rules and
regulations in the territory that they are operating.  In other words, if an U.S.
operator is operating in Canada, he operates in accordance with our rules, not his
home country.  The only way that we could force a visiting U.S. amateur to operate
in accordance with U.S. regulations would be to embody these regulations in the
Canadain ones.  This has not been done so.

Radiocommunication Information Circular 25 (RIC-25) contains the laws and
regulations with respect to amateur operation, including those that regulate the
operation of visiting amateurs operating their stations in the territory of Canada.
 In effect, visiting U.S. amateurs who hold General, Advanced and Extra licences may
operate there stations as if they were holds of a Canadina Basic, 12 w.p.m. and
Advanced qualifications.  As a result, they are not bound by the sub-band
restrictions while operating their stations in Canada.  Therefore, the concept that
amateurs must operate in accordance with the most restrictive regulations is not
supported in law.

73 and live better digitally
Jim, VE3XJ





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From: [e-mail] (Michael Crestohl)
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Subject: Re: Can a Green Card holder be a ham?
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Hello Jim:

[e-mail] wrote on Fri Dec 15 09:45:26 1995:

>Regretably, Mr. Stark was wrong.  He was wrong in that it would be impossible
>for the Canadian authorities to enforce Amercian laws in Canadian territory.
>The only laws that the courts can enforce are those that are have been enacted
>or promulgated appropriately.  Therefore, visiting operators are subject to
>the rules and regulations in the territory that they are operating.  In other
>words, if an U.S. operator is operating in Canada, he operates in accordance
>with our rules, not his home country.  The only way that we could force a
>visiting U.S. amateur to operate in accordance with U.S. regulations would be
>to embody these regulations in the Canadian ones.  This has not been done so.


I must disagree with you, even though you work for the DOC (or whatever
they are calling it these days.......

When Art Stark made this statement to me in 1979 or 1980 the requirement for
Canadian and U.S. Amateurs to obtain written authorization to operate had
just been removed.  Novices and Technician Class amateurs were operating in
Canada even though there was no equivilent license class for Canadians.
We were discussing reciprocal licensing and he told me that if in doubt
apply the most restrictive regulation.  I believed this to be good advice
from someone who should know, since he signed the TRCs.  I still believe
it today, as demonstrated by the following scenario:

Say I operated A3 in the 40m "Canadian Phone Band" from a Canadian location
and was heard my a F.C.C. Monitoring station.  I could receive a Notice of
Violation for an infraction of Part 97 in the U.S. radio regs which prohibits
me from using A3 in that part of the band.  How would I reply to it?  "Oh,
well, the Canadians told me it was alright to operate there....." but it may
or may not be a valid reason depending on how much of a matter the FCC
chose to pursue it.  I hold a U.S. Amateur Extra Class license which affords
me all available amateur radio privileges.  Here is an example of applying
the more restrictive regulation.

Also consider this:  I hold a Canadian license which allows me A3 on 14.125
but I am prohibited from using this mode on this frequency in the U.S.

How would you reply to this?

>Radiocommunication Information Circular 25 (RIC-25) contains the laws and
>regulations with respect to amateur operation, including those that regulate
>the operation of visiting amateurs operating their stations in the territory
>of Canada.  In effect, visiting U.S. amateurs who hold General, Advanced and
>Extra licences may operate there stations as if they were holds of a Canadina
>Basic, 12 w.p.m. and Advanced qualifications.  As a result, they are not bound
>by the sub-band restrictions while operating their stations in Canada.
>Therefore, the concept that amateurs must operate in accordance with the most
>restrictive regulations is not supported in law.

I am not very familiar with the new classes of license in Canada - when I
left there were three: Amateur, Amateur Advanced and Digital.  The Digital
was a no-code license that was introduced in the late 1970s.  I tried it
once and failed.  I was curious to see how difficult it was - and didn't
prepare for it - so I failed.  It was tough!  The U.S. has a "no-code"
license now and I assume that the reciprocal agreement applies to these
operators as well.  Since my radio interests, mainly boatanchors, does
not usually fit in with these operators I seldom have any contact with
them.  I will not air my personal opinion of the "no-code" class license.
I do know that all Amateur certificate holders were "grand-fathered"to
top level licensees without actually having to earn them.

Now, here is a question for you.  I hold dual nationality - Canada and U.S.A.
Do I have reciprocal operating rights in Canada?  What about when I was
a Canadian citizen living in the U.S. as a Permanent Resident Alien and
had a U.S. license?  Would I be allowed to use the U.S. license in Canada
even though I am eligible to hold a Canadian license?

73,

Michael Crestohl, KH6KD/W1 and VE2XZ
[e-mail]





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From: [e-mail] (Geert Jan de Groot)
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In <4as1mn$[e-mail]> Jim Cummings <[e-mail]> writes:

>Radiocommunication Information Circular 25 (RIC-25) contains the laws and
>regulations with respect to amateur operation, including those that regulate the
>operation of visiting amateurs operating their stations in the territory of Canada.

Is it possible to get a copy of that?
I'm a Dutch licensee, having a reciprocal license, but the
way it was issued was without rules... If I'm in Texas, should
I sign as W5/PE1HZG, N5/PE1HZG, or whatever?

Thanks,
Geert Jan


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In <4arl5o$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Michael Crestohl) writes:

>On the matter of reciprocal licensing:  You follow the rules of the country
>AND the rules of your own license class at home.  You apply whichever set
>of regs are more restrictive.

Does that mean that an European operator cannot use the repeaters on
146-148 MHz, or the repeaters on 440-450?
(neither of these frequencies are allocated in region 1)

I think that the wording is a little different..

Geert Jan


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In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] "Geert Jan de Groot" writes:

> In <4arl5o$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Michael Crestohl) writes:
>
> >On the matter of reciprocal licensing:  You follow the rules of the country
> >AND the rules of your own license class at home.  You apply whichever set
> >of regs are more restrictive.
>
> Does that mean that an European operator cannot use the repeaters on
> 146-148 MHz, or the repeaters on 440-450?
> (neither of these frequencies are allocated in region 1)
>
> I think that the wording is a little different..

No, I regret to inform you that you now have heard the CORRECT bad news.

------Quote--------

        97.107 Alien control operator privileges. -

          (a)     [snip a related to Canada only]

          (b)     The privileges available to a control operator holding
an FCC- issued reciprocal permit for alien amateur licensee are:

               (1)     The terms of the agreement between the alien's
government and the United States;

               (2)     The operating terms and conditions of the amateur
service license issued by the alien's government;

               (3)     The applicable provisions of the FCC Rules, but not
to exceed the control operator privileges of an FCC-issued Amateur Extra
Class operator license; and

               (4)     None, if the holder of the reciprocal permit has
obtained an FCC-issued operator/primary station license.

          (c)     At any time the FCC may, in its discretion, modify,
suspend, or cancel the amateur service privileges within or over any area
where radio services are regulated by the FCC of any Canadian amateur
service licensee or alien reciprocal permittee.

------------

With an FCC reciprocal permit, you must operate both within the *frequency*
and *power* etc. privileges of your own home license (or licence if from
UK!!) and also within the privileges of the US Extra Class License.

And in regards to the question of callsign:

        97.119 Station identification.

          (f)     When the station is transmitting under the authority of
a reciprocal permit for an alien amateur licensee, an indicator
consisting of the appropriate letter-numeral designating the station
location must be included before the call sign issued to the station by
the licensing country. [Snip Canadian section]

If you need more information, email me.

Regards,
--
   Tony - G3SKR / AA2PM                  email: [e-mail]
                                                [e-mail]
                                        packet: g3skr@n0ary.#nocal.ca.usa.na


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[e-mail] (Dave Jarrell) wrote:

>want it badly enough usually bring something with them to the hobby and
>make it a better fraternity.  I don't intend to categorize all non-code
>hams.  The old addage "you get what you pay for" has never been more
>applicable than it is today.  When you work for something, you appreciate
>it more and you project your "pride in belonging".  People having that
>pride will contribute to the hobby and make it better for all of us and
>more attractive to those would-be hams preparing to make the plunge.
>

Dave, when I got my no-code I had full intentions of learning the code
and upgrading. Then I listened on the HF bands. I'm not going to bother
now. It's almost as bad as CB. The code, I'm sorry to say, has nothing to
do with on-the-air conduct. I'll stay on VHF/UHF and up, thanks, and for
that I don't need to upgrade.

                          Regards;
                             Mike Behrent (N9NCR)



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mike behrent ([e-mail]) wrote:

: Dave, when I got my no-code I had full intentions of learning the code
: and upgrading. Then I listened on the HF bands. I'm not going to bother
: now. It's almost as bad as CB. The code, I'm sorry to say, has nothing to
: do with on-the-air conduct. I'll stay on VHF/UHF and up, thanks, and for
: that I don't need to upgrade.

Just a point for those who think "HF" is a wasteland, and for those
who might be reading these comments and put too much stock in them:

Some of the activities on HF bother me tremendously.  But the fact is
that truly offensive behavior is pretty rare.  It is most obvious on
SSB on certain bands, but even there it is fairly easy to avoid.
If one seeks out such activity, and listens to it (it *is* insidious)
for long, it may indeed seem to be prevalent, but it is not.

Still, some of us do consider HF voice to be more unpleasant and
agravating than it is worth worth.  Fortunatley, there are a lot of
other modes and activities on HF that are a lot more pleasant.
Digital mode operators are a pretty good bunch, RTTY is still pretty
gentlemanly, and of course most of the CW operators I meet are more
interested in meeting people and communicating than they are in
shouting profanities at anyone unlike themselves.

Anyway, the point is that "HF" is *not* like "CB".  I've had thousands
of exciting and interesting contacts over the years, and I'd guess
that only about 2 percent of my time on HF has been spoiled by some
jerks.  Of course only about 15 percent of my operating has been on
SSB, and that 2 percent figure comes mostly from my time on SSB...

You may not enjoy anything HF has to offer, but please don't condemn
it based upon a very limited exposure to just one of its many facets.

Thanks,
Greg
WB0RTK


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Subject: Computer Encoding!?  HELP!!!

>>I would like to know if anyone out there has any experience encoding
>>messages or more specifically DE-coding them...My XYL has been into my
>>ham computer and has somehow written some things in letter form and
>>encoded them...

Good for her! Now keep your nose out of her private affairs. She
encrypted them for a reason. She doesn't want them to be read by others.

Either respect her privacy, or take your paranoia to another
relationship.


[e-mail]
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I would like to know if anyone out there has any experience encoding
messages or more specifically DE-coding them...My XYL has been into my ham
computer and has somehow written some things in letter form and encoded
them.  I am very curious about this, any help appreciated.  The code looks
to be a mass of symbols, letters, and other odd figures. 73, Mike
PS  Please e-mail me directly.


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KK5EP ([e-mail]) wrote:
: I would like to know if anyone out there has any experience encoding
: messages or more specifically DE-coding them...My XYL has been into my ham
: computer and has somehow written some things in letter form and encoded
: them.  I am very curious about this, any help appreciated.  The code looks
: to be a mass of symbols, letters, and other odd figures. 73, Mike
: PS  Please e-mail me directly.

Probably some form of encryption. Many packages have an encryption
option.

Jim, WA6SDM


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[e-mail] (Joel B Levin) wrote:
>Gee, most of the contesters I know around here don't look like that at all.
>Not all young, many are though; they stay in reasonable shape, recognizing
>that you need to be in pretty good condiiton to work the 48 hours of a big
>contest.  One local contester is a runner and enters a lot of the regional

Cut the crap, you do not need to be "in shape" to sit on your ass for a long
time.
Oxymoron:Contester in condition.


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From: [e-mail] (charles copeland)
Subject: CW - complusive/obsessive dream come true?
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I've been learning CW for past few months and have come to some
conslusions. CW seems to cultivate a complusive/obsessive
behavior. I imagine compulsive/obsessive types become engulfed
in the CW hobby.

CW also involves somewhat of a ritual. Everytime you change
bands you have to tune the radio, then tune the tuner, and then
on to the repetative CQ CQ CQ. This type of repetative ritual
is part of the obsessive addicting nature of CW.

Is CW a haven for compulsive/obsessive people?

Instead of washing their hands 50 times a day, or constantly
checking doors to see if they are locked .... these people
are hammering away CQ CQ CQ all day long?



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From: [e-mail](michael silva)
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Subject: Re: CW - complusive/obsessive dream come true?
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In <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (charles
copeland) writes:

>CW also involves somewhat of a ritual. Everytime you change
>bands you have to tune the radio, then tune the tuner, and then
>on to the repetative CQ CQ CQ. This type of repetative ritual
>is part of the obsessive addicting nature of CW.

Of course nobody ever does these things on sideband...

Mike, KK6GM



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From: [e-mail] (Clark Savage Turner)
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Subject: Re: CW - complusive/obsessive dream come true?
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In <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (charles copeland) writes:

>CW also involves somewhat of a ritual. Everytime you change
>bands you have to tune the radio, then tune the tuner, and then
>on to the repetative CQ CQ CQ. This type of repetative ritual
>is part of the obsessive addicting nature of CW.

Are you serious?
All of this applies equally to SSB and any other mode.
Adjust your equipment, and attempt to make a connection.

No tune solid state rigs and resonant antennas require no tuners
or tuning up.

SO what is your point?

>Instead of washing their hands 50 times a day, or constantly
>checking doors to see if they are locked .... these people
>are hammering away CQ CQ CQ all day long?

Is this it?  Well, again, this can be any mode, it has nothing to
do with CW.  OK, so there are some obsessive people calling CQ
on the bands far too long for your taste?  Is this it?  OK,
I agree.

Clark
WA3JPG


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From: [e-mail] (gregory brown)
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charles copeland ([e-mail]) wrote:

: Is CW a haven for compulsive/obsessive people?

: Instead of washing their hands 50 times a day, or constantly
: checking doors to see if they are locked .... these people
: are hammering away CQ CQ CQ all day long?

If you call "CQ CQ CQ" repetitively "all day long", you are a lousy
operator whether you are using CW or SSB or any other mode.  If you
think that's all there is to good CW operating, you better think
again.

And what the Hell is *wrong* with washing your hands 50 times a day???
Compulsive/obsessive indeed.  You know how many germs hide out on a
typical keyer...?

Greg





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From: [e-mail] (Bob Raymond)
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Subject: DXtreme Amateur Radio Station Log System V2.0
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Designed for HF DXers, this extremely affordable logging program
lets you maintain a database of your contacts and track the DXCC
performance of your station.

DXtreme(tm) features attractive, easy-to-use screens, and a full range of
inquiries and reports.

A Demo version of DXtreme is now available!  For further information regarding
prices and availability, please contact me at:

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For a light-hearted look at how DXtreme got its name, check out our Web page at:

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Have a Happy Holiday Season!

73 and good DX,

Bob Raymond, NE1I
DXtreme Software
26 Langholm Drive
Nashua, NH 03062


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From: [e-mail] (Tony Baca (?))
Subject: FCC ID
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If I have the FCC ID for a product, does anyone know if I
can get any information from the FCC via the Net?  I looked
at their web page and I didn't see anyway.


_____
   /ony Baca     Hewlett Packard Co. Boise, Idaho      [e-mail]


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From: [e-mail] (Eric E. Scott)
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Hi,

I'm a No Code Tech, and I'm in the prossess of upgrading to my General.
I have been interested in Ham Radio since my Uncle showed me his rig when
I was 6years old. It has taken me 20 years to finally get my Ticket.  The
only reason I didn't get it earlier is because of the 5wpm code test.  I
don't believe that they should abolish the code test but I do believe
that a No Code Test for an ENTERY level licence is a good thing.

Prior to getting my Ham licence, I played around with SSB CB.  I enjoyed
it, However, it was very crowded.  Giving the No-Codes the narrow band
with of the 10m band with limited wattage would give new Hams a taste of
the HF spectrum.(without being able to work world wide.) This would
possibly encoruage many people to upgrade.  I'm upgrading becuase I would
like to start playing with QRP.

I'll get off my soap box now.

Thanks
Eric E. Scott
KC7KLZ
--
The opinions expressed in this message are my own personal views
and do not reflect the official views of Microsoft Corporation.



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From: [e-mail] (Richard Freeman)
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To all hams:

If you have a MFJ tuner Mod. 986,  the shaft in the roller inductor
may break at any time.  The problem is the hole in the front panel is
slightly higher than it should be so the shaft is bent all the time.
To correct this 4 washers need to be put under the roller inductor to
raise it to match the front panel hole.  I drilled holes in four
pennies and used them.  They seemed to be just the right size.  Doing
this will save you the $55+ fee that MFJ charges for a new roller
inductor when the shaft breaks.

Yes, MFJ is aware of this design flaw.

Post any questions.

Richard, KB6CEA



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From: Robert  H°yvald <[e-mail]>
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To all:

I have a Kenwood TM-742a for sale right out of the box with all
docs and warranties. It is only three months old . Included is the
DFK-7 kit, TSU-7 decoder, and the UT50s module for the extra 50mhz
band, and the Comet SSB-15 tribander antenna as a complete package
for $900.00 plus shipping. There is absolutely nothing wrong with
this unit and the accessories, it has very little TX time less
than an hour, and receive of not more than three hours.

Please E-mail all inquiries to 72242,477
KB2UWJ


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        I hope this is the the new one, they just changed the question pool.
SO BEWARE
jeff



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From: [e-mail] (Nicholas Abbot)
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Subject: Re: Garage Door Opener RFI
Date: 16 Dec 1995 14:21:04 GMT
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Fraser Bonnett ([e-mail]) wrote:
: Does anyone have experience with RFI being generated by the beam
: sensors on the new generation of Garage door openers.

: I installed a pair of STANLEY ST200 openers and found that the
: beam sensors cause SERIOUS RFI on 10 meters about every 12 kHz.

: I've tried ferrite chokes on the sensor wires, ferrite chokes and
: AC line filters on the opener motors, all to no avail.

: Any ideas?  By the way, disconnecting the beam sensors stops the
: RFI, but then the doors won't work!

: HELP  Fraser, N3VSM

: [e-mail]

        I suppose at first, this might be percieved as
        a joke.  But, I'll go ahead and say it anyway.
        Heck, I'm not even sure it would work.

        How about replacing all the sensor wires with a
        very small guage coax.

        Nah, that's silly.


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From: "John A. Palmer" <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Garage Door Opener RFI
Date: 17 Dec 1995 03:08:57 GMT
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[e-mail] (Nicholas Abbot) wrote:
>Fraser Bonnett ([e-mail]) wrote:
>: Does anyone have experience with RFI being generated by the beam
>: sensors on the new generation of Garage door openers.
>
>: I installed a pair of STANLEY ST200 openers and found that the
>: beam sensors cause SERIOUS RFI on 10 meters about every 12 kHz.
>
>: I've tried ferrite chokes on the sensor wires, ferrite chokes and
>: AC line filters on the opener motors, all to no avail.
>
>: Any ideas?  By the way, disconnecting the beam sensors stops the
>: RFI, but then the doors won't work!
>
>: HELP  Fraser, N3VSM
>
>: [e-mail]
>
>       I suppose at first, this might be percieved as
>       a joke.  But, I'll go ahead and say it anyway.
>       Heck, I'm not even sure it would work.
>
>       How about replacing all the sensor wires with a
>       very small guage coax.
>
>       Nah, that's silly.

Or perhaps try grounding everthing a little better...

73's
ka5van



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From: [e-mail] (Jerry B Altzman)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: GRRR! ARRL chutzpah
Date: 14 Dec 1995 03:38:22 GMT
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It's time once again for Jerry's "bitch about the ARRL" article. Before all
of you who love the ARRL with complete devotion jump on me, this problem
isn't something that could be corrected my my taking a more active part in
the ARRL volunteer half. I like the ARRL myself, but that doesn't mean I
can't criticise it.

Now then.

Today I got in the mail a renewal postcard from ARRL for my subscription to
QEX. My subscription expires in April.

The card says that my subscription expires "shortly", (in 4 months)
and that I should "renew today to insure [sic] prompt delivery of the next
issue" -- no doubt, to be delivered "shortly" according to their definition.
I would like my November issue to be delivered sometime before my
subscription expires.

Yes, yes, I know that Jon Bloom et al. are having troubles getting QEX out,
and I'm not bitching about that now. I'm complaining about the _chutzpah_ of
ARRL to put out such a postcard with QEX running so far behind.

In any case, how come they need 4 months lead time to process my renewal?
Granted, the interest on the $24 won't amount to much, but it's something.

It could be worse, though. Don't even get me started about the APS, which
wouldn't let you join any time of year except renewal time in July.

Now I feel a little better. Sorry if I got spleen all over you.

//jbaltz
jerry b. altzman   Entropy just isn't what it used to be      [phone]
[e-mail]   [e-mail]  KE3ML  (HEPNET) NEVIS::jbaltz


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From: [e-mail] (Jim Lowman)
Subject: Re: GRRR! ARRL chutzpah
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Jerry B Altzman ([e-mail]) wrote:

: In any case, how come they need 4 months lead time to process my renewal?
: Granted, the interest on the $24 won't amount to much, but it's something.

Don't know about QEX, but most magazine publishers state that they require
6-8 weeks to process a new subscription or, worse yet, a change of address.
Since I work with computer systems, and most publishers are heavily
computerized, this seems a bit difficult to understand.

: It could be worse, though. Don't even get me started about the APS, which
: wouldn't let you join any time of year except renewal time in July.

The National Geographic Society used to be that way, too.  Also, one had to
be referred by a current member.  Guess they finally gave in to the
almightly dollar.

Jim

[e-mail]  |   Jim Lowman    * KF6CR*    San Bernardino, CA
Systems Analyst     |   San Bernardino City Unified School District
[phone] (O)  |   Unix:  "It isn't supposed to be easy...If it
[phone] (FAX)|   was, everyone would be doing it."  -Unknown-


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From: [e-mail] (Stephan Rashkin)
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[e-mail] (Jerry B Altzman) wrote:

>It's time once again for Jerry's "bitch about the ARRL" article. Before all
>of you who love the ARRL with complete devotion jump on me, this problem
>isn't something that could be corrected my my taking a more active part in
>the ARRL volunteer half. I like the ARRL myself, but that doesn't mean I
>can't criticise it.

>Now then.

>Today I got in the mail a renewal postcard from ARRL for my subscription to
>QEX. My subscription expires in April.

>The card says that my subscription expires "shortly", (in 4 months)
>and that I should "renew today to insure [sic] prompt delivery of the next
>issue" -- no doubt, to be delivered "shortly" according to their definition.
>I would like my November issue to be delivered sometime before my
>subscription expires.

>Yes, yes, I know that Jon Bloom et al. are having troubles getting QEX out,
>and I'm not bitching about that now. I'm complaining about the _chutzpah_ of
>ARRL to put out such a postcard with QEX running so far behind.

>In any case, how come they need 4 months lead time to process my renewal?
>Granted, the interest on the $24 won't amount to much, but it's something.

>It could be worse, though. Don't even get me started about the APS, which
>wouldn't let you join any time of year except renewal time in July.

>Now I feel a little better. Sorry if I got spleen all over you.

>//jbaltz
>jerry b. altzman   Entropy just isn't what it used to be      [phone]
>[e-mail]   [e-mail]  KE3ML  (HEPNET) NEVIS::jbaltz


Jerry wrote:

Renewing my license is considerably less onerous than car
re-registration.
For one, I don't have to change the plates on my rig. Two, it's free.

Steve Writes:

and considerably less onerous than getting QEX?  :o^


Steve, WA2NHZ




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From: Wayne Jones <wjones.hgea.org>
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Subject: Re: GRRR! ARRL chutzpah
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[e-mail] (Jerry B Altzman) wrote:
>Today I got in the mail a renewal postcard from ARRL for my subscription to
>QEX. My subscription expires in April.
>
>The card says that my subscription expires "shortly", (in 4 months)
>and that I should "renew today to insure [sic] prompt delivery of the next
>issue" -- no doubt, to be delivered "shortly" according to their
>ARRL to put out such a postcard with QEX running so far behind.
>
>In any case, how come they need 4 months lead time to process my renewal?
>Granted, the interest on the $24 won't amount to much, but it's something.


Granted, the wording isn't exactly what I would use, but have you checked
out the renewal requests from some of the other magazines?  I sometimes
get them up to six months before my subscriptions expire.  If you don't
subscribe to another magazine, ask your wife!  I am sure she has seen the
same pattern.

Aloha
Wayne, NH6GJ



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From: [e-mail] (James Warren Price)
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NNTP-Posting-Host: cc05du.unity.ncsu.edu
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2]

Jim Lowman ([e-mail]) wrote:
: Jerry B Altzman ([e-mail]) wrote:

: : In any case, how come they need 4 months lead time to process my renewal?
: : Granted, the interest on the $24 won't amount to much, but it's something.

: Don't know about QEX, but most magazine publishers state that they require
: 6-8 weeks to process a new subscription or, worse yet, a change of address.
: Since I work with computer systems, and most publishers are heavily
: computerized, this seems a bit difficult to understand.

The computers don't process and enter the data, people do.  Since
non-profits like ARRL don't have people idling at their desks waiting for
your renewal to arrive, subscriptions are handled periodically (pun
intended) when that pile on their desk is large enough to pull them away
from other business.

Where I used to work, the data and payments had to be sorted, batched,
then sent to the fulfillment agency that entered it into the computer,
process the data, then print the labels and ship them to the mailhouse.
Don't forget to allow delays for illness, USPS, bad wx, the mailhouse,
the printer, other deadlines, ....

A truly automated system would require you (or your computer) to
electronically submit subscriber and payment info, followed by electronic
transmission of your subscription.

Darn those carbon-based lifeforms, slowing down our modern life style and
standing between us and immediate satisfaction! :)

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Jim Price, ARS N3QYE                             Don't blame me.
[e-mail]                      I voted for Emma Goldman.
http://www4.ncsu.edu/~jwprice/.link.html



From Unknown Sun Dec 17 15:49:09 1995
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From: [e-mail]
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: GRRR! ARRL chutzpah
Date: 16 Dec 1995 05:35:07 GMT
Organization: via GEnie Information Systems
Lines: 12
Sender: [e-mail] (Dick Flanagan)
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References: <4ao67e$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]>
NNTP-Posting-Host: rock102.is.ge.com

[e-mail] (Jim Lowman) writes:
>Don't know about QEX, but most magazine publishers state that they require
>6-8 weeks to process a new subscription or, worse yet, a change of address.
>Since I work with computer systems, and most publishers are heavily
>computerized, this seems a bit difficult to understand.

Most magazine publisher have to send their pre-printed mailing labels to
the printer a month or more before the magazine is to actually be mailed.
They can get the label changed in a matter of minutes, but getting that
label into the next batch being sent to the printer can take a while.
--
Dick Flanagan, W6OLD - ([e-mail]) - Minden, NV


From Unknown Sun Dec 17 15:49:11 1995
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From: "Edwin J. Bailen (& sometimes Irene Beattie)" <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: GRRR! ARRL chutzpah
Date: Sat, 16 Dec 1995 23:28:35 -0600
Organization: Adhesive Media, Inc.
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On 14 Dec 1995, Jerry B Altzman wrote:

> Date: 14 DEC 1995 03:38:22 GMT
> From: Jerry B Altzman <[e-mail]>
> Newgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
> Subject: GRRR! ARRL chutzpah
>
> It's time once again for Jerry's "bitch about the ARRL" article. Before all
> of you who love the ARRL with complete devotion jump on me, this problem
> isn't something that could be corrected my my taking a more active part in
> the ARRL volunteer half. I like the ARRL myself, but that doesn't mean I
> can't criticise it.
>
> Now then.
>
> Today I got in the mail a renewal postcard from ARRL for my subscription to
> QEX. My subscription expires in April.
>
> The card says that my subscription expires "shortly", (in 4 months)
> and that I should "renew today to insure [sic] prompt delivery of the next
> issue" -- no doubt, to be delivered "shortly" according to their definition.
> I would like my November issue to be delivered sometime before my
> subscription expires.
>
> Yes, yes, I know that Jon Bloom et al. are having troubles getting QEX out,
> and I'm not bitching about that now. I'm complaining about the _chutzpah_ of
> ARRL to put out such a postcard with QEX running so far behind.
>
> In any case, how come they need 4 months lead time to process my renewal?
> Granted, the interest on the $24 won't amount to much, but it's something.
>
> It could be worse, though. Don't even get me started about the APS, which
> wouldn't let you join any time of year except renewal time in July.
>
> Now I feel a little better. Sorry if I got spleen all over you.
>
> //jbaltz
> jerry b. altzman   Entropy just isn't what it used to be      [phone]
> [e-mail]   [e-mail]  KE3ML  (HEPNET) NEVIS::jbaltz
>
>
You call that chutzpah?  Try subscribing to SAIL magazine.  I got three
(3) "special" renewal offers before I got my first issue!  So far, my
renewal offers have outnumbered my magazines 2 to 1 (not counting the 4
or 5 renewal offers in each magazine).

   Ed Bailen -- N5KZW  /  Irene Beattie -- KA5DYF
          His religion?  Geek Orthodox!



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From: [e-mail] (Mike O'Brien)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Ham literature
Date: 16 Dec 95 20:37:29 GMT
Organization: ucsd usenet gateway
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NNTP-Posting-Host: ucsd.edu
Originator: [e-mail]

In response to the query by Scott Parker about a book titled "Today I am
a Ham," the author is Ethelyn M. Parkinson, illustrations are by
Ralph J. McDonald, the publisher is Abingdon Press of Nashville-New York,
and the copyright date is 1968. The plot involves the 14-year-old son of
a basketball coach who is cut from his school team and subsequently finds
solace on the ham bands. I'm afraid today the poor kid would be flat out
of luck...

de N0NLQ (ex-K0MYW)



From Unknown Sun Dec 17 15:49:13 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Cdrom Info)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Ham Radio CDROM
Date: Fri, 15 Dec 1995 14:12:01 GMT
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Organization: Information Plus BBS
Distribution: world
Lines: 17


                  July 1995 Edition
                  -----------------
  Ham Radio CDROM with Windows based Callsign Database
  ----------------------------------------------------

Information Plus sells a superb Ham Radio CDROM featuring:

*  Callsign Database with Windows, DOS, OS/2, UNIX interfaces

*  Thousands of PC compatible Amateur Radio Programs

*  Radio Modifications, WAV files for TNC Testing

For more information send email with subject text including HAM
                                                            ^^^



From Unknown Sun Dec 17 15:49:14 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Ken White)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Ham related mailing lists?
Date: 16 Dec 1995 04:27:50 GMT
Organization: University of South Florida
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X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2]

Better yet...post those tips or lists on the NEWSGROUP. I and many other
people would be interested in hearing about ham related mailing lists.
Isn't that what NEWSGROUPS are for???

KE4WIS


 Christian Buenger
([e-mail]) wrote: : Hello!

: Does anybody have a list of ham related mailing lists. I recently found a
: DX-reflector but that was all. Do you have any tips or lists, which you
: could mail me?

: thanks in advance!

: 73 de Christian, DL6KAC

: InterNet: [e-mail]
:           [e-mail]

: ## CrossPoint v3.1 ##


From Unknown Sun Dec 17 15:49:15 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Jonathon B. Reich)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Hams in Atlanta : YOUR HELP IS NEEDED!
Date: 13 Dec 1995 23:36:48 -0500
Organization: Access America(TM), P.O. Box 1222, Alpharetta, GA 30239-1222
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All Hams in the ATLANTA GEORGIA area....
Your help is needed volunteering for the

Georgia Special Olympic Winter Games on  Feb. 16-18 (Fri-Sun)

We need as many Volunteers as possible!!!  Times that are needed are as
follows:

Friday ...  about 4-8 (for opening ceremonies)
Saturday .. FROM 7am - 9pm ...  ALL DAY ACTIVIES.. (WHENEVER YOU CAN HELP!)
Sunday ...  from around 11am - 7pm ..

If you can help any of the times listed ... Please contact Jonathan
(KE4UTT) at 404-354-9856

Thanks very much and we look forward to seeing you there!!!!!

Jonathan


From Unknown Sun Dec 17 15:49:16 1995
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Subject: Hams who ignore "newbies"
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: [e-mail]
Date: Sat, 16 Dec 95 05:39:50 EST
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Organization: Cape Cods Internet Address
Lines: 42


What follows is a message from a guy that asked for your help. All you
"helpful" hams ignored him. He did not like my answer but at least I
paid him some attention

Burt, K1OIK.




        Hello k1oik !

You wrote in a Mail about 'Re: Q: What means "HAM"??' this:


k> BI>BF> Ham means fat, white, lazy intelligent white MAN.


As I wrote my simple and honest question in the newsgroup I thought I
would get lots of answers. At least ten or twenty. Yes, I really thought it,
because the word "HAM" is used so often. Meanwhile I naerly can even use
the word when talking about radio amateurs, but still I don t know what it
means.
Fact is I have got no answer on my question   -except yours! But,
please forgive me this, your answer is not very helpful.

If I had been a film director, and you had been an actor in my film,
then I would have given you the roll of the oracle. ;-)


Hope to get your next riddle soon!

Bye ...

        Martin

--
*******************************************************************
*  Message Sent From:   CCS WORLD  Cape Cod's Internet Address    *
*  http://ccsnet.com  Telnet://ccsnet.com  Ftp://unix.ccsnet.com  *
*  Games: TW2002, VGA Planets, 4 Player DOOM, Game Connection     *



From Unknown Sun Dec 17 15:49:17 1995
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From: [e-mail] (David B. "Ben" Burch)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Help with QRP design, please?
Date: Sat, 16 Dec 1995 11:32:24 -0600
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Hi!  I'm looking at an application that requires a very low power
transmitter sending data very slowly to a distant LOS receiver.  Would one
of you folks be so kind as to point me to some information on this topic?
Either online, or in a book/magazine.  Thanks!

--
Ben Burch
[e-mail]


From Unknown Sun Dec 17 15:49:18 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Jack Yazel)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Help: Morse code practice program
Date: 14 Dec 1995 16:35:10 -0500
Organization: The Greater Columbus FreeNet
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Jacques Schenk ([e-mail]) wrote:
: Can anyone tell me where te find a good morse training program ?
: I have a soundblaster pro 2 compatible card and i need the program only
: for practicing my morse receiving

    If you can FTP, try any SimTel mirror location in directory

          SimTel/msdos/hamradio

    Some SimTel mirrors that I know of are:

      ftp.cdrom.com.us
      oak.oakland.edu.us
      ftp.uoknor.edu.us



From Unknown Sun Dec 17 15:49:18 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Bill Howell)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Help: Morse code practice program
Date: Sat, 16 Dec 1995 10:28:05 GMT
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The best i've found is cp222c.
I'm not sure where i got it. It's shareware. I'll mail it to you if
you like.
Bill
[e-mail]
e-mail me if you want it.






[e-mail] (Jacques Schenk) wrote:

>Can anyone tell me where te find a good morse training program ?
>I have a soundblaster pro 2 compatible card and i need the program only
>for practicing my morse receiving




From Unknown Sun Dec 17 15:49:19 1995
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From: [e-mail] (James A Doty)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: How to clean up the ham bands?
Date: 15 Dec 1995 04:52:10 GMT
Organization: Clark College, Vancouver Wa.  USA
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Stephan Rashkin ([e-mail]) wrote:
> [e-mail] (James A Doty) wrote:

> >you should have used the word who instead of that.  Dispite my required
> I wush yu boyse wud stop..evun you speled "despite" encorect.

> Steve, WA2NHZ

U r correct.  I did mispel despite.  Such is life.  Actually I hadn't
posted on this subject for days and had expected it to die out by
now.

James A. Doty
KI7EL
(I'd better spell check my messages.)



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From: [e-mail] (Ken Allen)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: I am looking for a good Ham Radio FTP Site!!!!
Date: Sun, 17 Dec 1995 16:28:01 GMT
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If you know of any good Ham Radio FTP sites, please let me know.
The only one that I have is: "ftp.ucsd.edu"

Thanks,

        Les Goins -- K5HR
        [e-mail]




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From: curtis epps <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.antenna,rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.homebrew,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.swap
Subject: I.D. Timers
Date: 14 Dec 1995 22:04:43 GMT
Organization: CompuServe, Inc. (1-800-689-0736)
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I.D. Timers:  Battery powered quartz countdown timer with alarm.
Auto re-set/auto re-start for no
touch opperation and no loss in time between ten minute ID cycles
with the auto re-start.  L.C.
display shows minutes remaining in countdown.  High acuracy less
than +4 seconds per week
of continuous duty.  Aprox 2 1/2 x 2 1/2 x 1/2 inches; watch
battery included.
Timer has spring loaded magnetic clip for dash board or visor
mounting for mobil use, swing
down metal bail converts clip to easel stand for base opperation.
 Timers sold nationally for
$35.00.  Special price $20.00 shiped UPS ground.  Checks OK.
Curtis Epps (KB4WUB) 1553
Mackerel Ave.-Sarasota, FL 34237

--
C.EPPS


From Unknown Sun Dec 17 15:49:22 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Enno Groen)
Subject: Re: IC706
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Organization: NLnet
References: <47n930$a3k$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]> <[e-mail]>
Date: Wed, 13 Dec 1995 19:32:19 GMT
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Why don't you look for a 775 ft1000 or new Kenwood if you don't like small??
I don't want such an elephant on my desk for sure...
73
Enno



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From: [e-mail]
Newsgroups: soc.culture.venezuela,soc.culture.uruguay,soc.culture.spain,soc.culture.peru,soc.culture.mexican.american,soc.culture.latin-america,soc.culture.ecuador,soc.culture.cuba,soc.culture.colombia,soc.culture.chile,soc.culture.bolivia,soc.culture.argentina,rec.radio.amateur.policy,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.homebrew,rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc,rec.radio.amateur.antenna
Subject: Ingrese Via Internet a las Repetidoras de California
Date: Fri, 15 Dec 95 09:04:49 PST
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RADIOAFICIONADOS

DX's VIA INTERNET CON LOS ANGELES CALIFORNIA

Es fantastico escuchar como radioaficionados de todas partes del mundo
utilizan los repetidores de VHF y UHF del sur de California (En Espanol)
ingresando por medio de INTERNET, ademas en muchas ocaciones nuestras maquinas
de 2 Metros, 220 Mhz, 440Mhz y 1.2 Ghz estuvieron interconectadas con maquinas
similares, por horas, en otras partes del mundo permitiendo realizar Dx's con
un pequeno equipo de mano.

Para realizar un INTERNET/REPEATER LINK con los repetidoras de habla hispana
de sur de California debes contar con los siguientes elementos:

- Cuenta en Internet del tipo PPP.
- Computador 486 DX2 66mhz 8 MB con tarjeta de sonido.
- Modem de 14,400 Bauds.
- Programa Iphone (Internet Phone: http://www.vocaltec.com).

Si ya estas listo o te hace falta ayuda envia un E-Mail a:

[e-mail]

Y adjunta los siguientes datos:

Letras/Call:
Nombre y Apellido:
Pais y Ciudad:
E-Mail:

73's de AC6RB George Migliarini




From Unknown Sun Dec 17 15:49:24 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Earl Boatman)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: IS THERE ANY PROBLEMS BRINING A HT ALONG A CRUISE?
Date: Thu, 14 Dec 1995 18:50:48 GMT
Organization: Phoenix Data Systems
Lines: 14
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X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.0.82

[e-mail] (steve genz) wrote:

>HI, I am going on a cruise in Jan. to the carribbean and was wondering if
>anyone knows about any special requirements when bringing a ht on the
>islands? Any special licenses involved? please e-mail me at
>[e-mail], Thanks!
>73's, steve wi0e

You can get a permit in most of the islands.   You must also ask the
captain of the ship if you operate on the ship (you must follow the
rules of the country the ship is from.).

Capt Earl Boatman



From Unknown Sun Dec 17 15:49:25 1995
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Date: Thu, 14 Dec 1995 08:52:52 -0700
From: Richard Pyne <[e-mail]>
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Scott Leaf wrote:

> 1) Suriname forbids radio communication with amateurs and is listed in the
> forbidden country list by the I.T.U., not likely you will be close unless
> you go to Trinidad and Tobago, Grenada or Barbados, however, Canadians are
> allowed to operate temporarily from Suriname.  Not sure about USA.

When did this take place? One of my favorite QSL cards is from Suriname.

--
Richard B. Pyne, KB7RMU
[e-mail]
[e-mail]
http://www.provo.lib.ut.us/~rpyne/

The contents of this message reflect my opinions only and
not necessarily those of any employer, client or service
provider.

This information is provided as is without any express or
implied warranties.  While every effort has been taken to
ensure the accuracy of the information contained here, the
author assumes no responsibility for errors or omissions,
or for damages resulting from the use of the information
contained herein.


From Unknown Sun Dec 17 15:49:27 1995
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From: [e-mail] (KF2TI)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Jack Booted Thugs of Ham Radio
Date: 13 Dec 1995 16:09:52 -0500
Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364)
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In article <4akb69$[e-mail]>, [e-mail]
(Drew Durigan) writes:

> I have never "claimed to DX 'around the
>world' in (his) short 3 months as a ham."
>
>

actually Drew you did.  You stated you had worked the world on 5 watts.  I
remember the post because a few of us DX types tried to figure how to do
it at this point in the solar cycle on 10 meters ( assuming you were
running your legal license class and assuming (from your posts) that you
were not engaged in CW or any other mode other than SSB.  Packet does not
count.

I have a fairly good setup both in the house and mobile and for the life
of me, i can't get past a couple of skips on 10 meters.

Curious as how you "Worked the world" on 5 watts

steve

256 countries confirmed in 4 years and counting


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From: [e-mail] (Pete..)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Jack Booted Thugs of Ham Radio
Date: Thu, 14 Dec 1995 03:04:59 GMT
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Mike Whatley <[e-mail]> wrote:

>From Richard Hernandez KC4QBQ

>[e-mail]

><<I read some of the responses on this newsgroup and unfortunately
><<like on the bands there seems to be a lot of uneducated Riff Raff
><<here. Hang in there

>****************************************************************

>Yeah Richard if only all hams had *your* values, *your* beliefs and
>*your* education the hobby would be a better place. Yuk, Yuk.

>Ham radio is full of those of you who want to "clean up" the bands
>and dictate to others what they can and can't say.

>The jack-booted thugs of Ham radio who continually try to suppress
>free expression have long been with us. It's part of the
>totalitarian and racist culture of the hobby. And it's always so
>amusing to see and hear.

>mike wa4d

>--
>Mike Whatley

>--
>Mike Whatley
I think the most amusing point is that Amateurs appear to be so
opinionated...  Always throwing in their 20c worth......Annonymity
gives them such a thrill, acid pens and flames thrown from the comfort
of their shack !!

You never see a "middle of the road" type discussion.  It is either
black or white...  Flames and daggers....

You find the Data Police on ALL bands, enforcing their views on
others.  Picking on the newcommers and the weak.  Their 15 minutes of
GLORY starts every time they set foot in their shack !!

By for now.......
Pete..vk2yx



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From: [e-mail] (Don M)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Jack Booted Thugs of Ham Radio
Date: 14 Dec 1995 12:11:19 GMT
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>I think the most amusing point is that Amateurs appear to be so
>opinionated...  Always throwing in their 20c worth......Annonymity
>gives them such a thrill, acid pens and flames thrown from the comfort
>of their shack !!
>
>You never see a "middle of the road" type discussion.  It is either
>black or white...  Flames and daggers....
>
>You find the Data Police on ALL bands, enforcing their views on
>others.  Picking on the newcommers and the weak.  Their 15 minutes of
>GLORY starts every time they set foot in their shack !!
>
>By for now.......
>Pete..vk2yx
>
Pete,

I liked what you said so much, that I figured it needed a repeat, just in case
some of the people you were talking about missed it the first time around.

Well said and right on!!!



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From: [e-mail] (Bruce Micales)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.policy
Subject: Re: Just supposin'
Date: Wed, 13 Dec 1995 12:01:31
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In article <4amk31$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Carl Steckler) writes:
>
Mike and Carl,

I have been a Tech for 19-20 years.  I have not upgraded since I never felt
the need for additional privileges.  I am just as good a amateur radio
operator as an Extra Class license.  However, I do agree with Mike that a
time-limited license is needed and that additional privileges are granted as
an upgrade.  If this is a problem for you, think of a time-limited (whatever
the name) license as a "learner's permit".

Get a feel for amateur radio and then upgrade.  The time of this license is up
for grabs and has pointed out by others there are reasons for not being able
to upgrade with in a one year time peroid.

Amateur radio is both a HOBBY and a SERVICE.  The hobby is the day to day use
we have of the radios but this is just in preparation for the day when these
radios could be used in emergencies.  This is the service that we provide plus
the public service function.

Yes, technology has progressed over the years and the use of amateur radio in
emergencies has declined some,. but amateur radio is always there as the final
"fall-back" and we should always be ready to step in and help (the public and
each other).

Ok, getting off the soap-box :). Sorry.
de WA2DEU

Bruce Micales

Bruce Micales
[e-mail]
Department of Anatomy
Amateur Radio : WA2DEU
Packet PBBS : [e-mail]




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From: [e-mail] (Eric E. Scott)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Learning License
Date: 14 Dec 1995 14:54:23 GMT
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In article <[e-mail]>,
[e-mail] says...>
>All you people wanting to keep the code keep it uselful and make
learning CW
>fun  it will probably be around forever, but if you sit around and
complain
>about somebody not sending or receiving as fast as you then CW is
destined to
>be replaced by modern and more ecfficient technologies.
>
>
>
>
>73     Dan (just a ham)  WB5HKK
Bravo Bravo  I agree.  Just because it takes a little bit of work, There
is still a lot of thing CW can do that other forms of communication
can't.  How many forms of voice can give you world wide communication
under 5 watts?

Thanks

Eric E. Scott
KC7KLZ (No Code Tech soon to be a General)
--
The opinions expressed in this message are my own personal views
and do not reflect the official views of Microsoft Corporation.



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From: [e-mail] (Raymon A. Bobbitt)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: LF, VLF Info
Date: Sat, 16 Dec 1995 16:27:49 GMT
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Does anyone know where information on very low radio frequency
transmission can be found?  I am interested in the properties of 3 Mhz
and under.

Please reply via E-Mail to: [e-mail]

Your assistance is appreciated.
Raymon A. Bobbitt
V/F 606-329-9919
Raymon A. Bobbitt
One Call Systems
Po Box 1091
Ashland, KY  41105-1091

606-329-9919,  [e-mail]



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From: [e-mail] (Jim Ewing)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Local open repeaters
Date: 13 Dec 1995 18:01:35 GMT
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IÆm new to Amateur Radio, Infect I should be getting my call sign before
the end of the week. IÆm looking forward to getting started in this
exciting hobby.
I have been trying to locate a list of repeaters in my area and havenÆt
been successful.
Can anyone share with me a list of the open repeaters in the Rock Hill, SC
and Charlotte, NC area.

Thanks,
Jim Ewing


--
The opinions expressed in this message are my own personal views
and do not reflect the official views of Microsoft Corporation.



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From: peabody <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Local open repeaters
Date: 14 Dec 1995 11:56:21 GMT
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To: [e-mail]

Go to your local ham equip. store, or order from any in the ham
pubs. the ARRL repeater listing directory. It is about $6.00
and has all the repeaters in the country in it, with a little
info on each. It is invaluable, if you do any travel at all and
nice for Knowing your local repeaters.

                                     73 and enjoy your ticket.
                                           WD4RER



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From: [e-mail] (Frank Durda IV)
Subject: Looking for PS for Kenwood TS-430-S
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I am looking for a power supply for or compatible with a
Kenwood TS-430-S.  Supposedly the matching power unit
is no longer made (although a newer model might be compatible).

The xceiver has the power connector marked (6-pin molex) as
13.8V @ 20AMPs.

Any pointers?  I am looking new and used.

Thanks.  If possible, please reply by mail - news delivery here is slow...

Frank Durda IV <[e-mail]>|"The Knights who say "LETNi"
or [e-mail] (Fastest Route)| demand...  A SEGMENT REGISTER!!!"
...letni!rwsys!nemesis!uhclem    N5VFV      |"A what?"
...decvax!fw.ast.com!nemesis!uhclem         |"LETNi! LETNi! LETNi!"  - 1983



From Unknown Sun Dec 17 15:49:36 1995
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From: Chris Boone <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Looking for repeater DVR's
Date: 14 Dec 1995 03:08:43 GMT
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References: <4al25o$[e-mail]>

FF Ssystems does have a DVR that does stand alone...
also LinkComs may have the capacity to be used as a standalone...

The ACC DVR uses 1200baud ASCII control on its Serial Input line
to control tracks etc...so if you find one, it can be used if
your system can outpulse the RS232 to the DVR..

73
Chris
WB5ITT
a LinkCom and ACC owner (still!)

--
Senior Telecommunications Technician  [e-mail]
ENTERGY/Gulf States Utilities         1:106/4267 FIDOnet
WB5ITT - Advanced Class               BBS- 409-447-4267 (WBBS)
PG-9-5322  FCC Commercial             409-525-2001 PhoneMail 24hr


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From: [e-mail] (John Meaker)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Mobile HF Interference
Date: 15 Dec 1995 13:44:41 GMT
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   Is this the right group to ask a question about installing a
mobile HF radio in a car, or is it limited to discussing the
mental health of folks who express an opinion about morse code?

   I have inatalled an FT-900AT in a 1995 Ford Escort and have a
chopping noise on both transmit and receive.  I have not yet made
the fuel pump modification to the car.  The radio has a power supply
that is totally independent of the car electrical system.  There is
a separate 12v deep cycle battery in the trunk.  I have installed the
radio using the remote mounting kit; the radio in the trunk and just
the control head in the driver's compartment.

   Could the noisy fuel pump be causing a problem with my transmit
audio?  Although Yaseu says that the remote kit doesn't allow noise
to be induced into the audio, could that be the problem anyhow?  If
so what is the cure?  Is there something else that I'm overlooking?

   Any help would be appreciated.  Thanks.

--
                            John Meaker -=- kr4ah
                                 Austin, TX


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From: [e-mail] (James V. Kauffman)
Subject: Re: Mobile HF Interference
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
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Date: Sat, 16 Dec 1995 19:32:12 GMT
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Sender: [e-mail]

John Meaker ([e-mail]) wrote:
:    Is this the right group to ask a question about installing a
: mobile HF radio in a car, or is it limited to discussing the
: mental health of folks who express an opinion about morse code?

:    I have inatalled an FT-900AT in a 1995 Ford Escort and have a
: chopping noise on both transmit and receive.  I have not yet made
: the fuel pump modification to the car.  The radio has a power supply
: that is totally independent of the car electrical system.  There is
: a separate 12v deep cycle battery in the trunk.  I have installed the
: radio using the remote mounting kit; the radio in the trunk and just
: the control head in the driver's compartment.

:    Could the noisy fuel pump be causing a problem with my transmit
: audio?  Although Yaseu says that the remote kit doesn't allow noise
: to be induced into the audio, could that be the problem anyhow?  If
: so what is the cure?  Is there something else that I'm overlooking?

:    Any help would be appreciated.  Thanks.

: --
:                             John Meaker -=- kr4ah
C

Hi John,

     I have a similar installation but in a Dodge Raider.  The only noise I
pick up from time to time is ignition noise from passing vehicles.  I'm
not familiar with the Ford so I can't offer any help.  All I can say,
is that once you do find the problem and fix it, you'll have an excellent
station. I use a SG230 (external mount) along with there SG303 antenna.

     Breaking into a pileup with this combination is no big deal. This morning I worked The Gambia on 17m from SE Georgia while mobile.  Hang in there!

Good Luck
Jim Kauffman N7TTO/4
[e-mail]

C
C
C
C
:                                  Austin, TX


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From: [e-mail] (SnPCross)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Mods Azden PCS-6000H
Date: 14 Dec 1995 19:11:22 -0500
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      I would like to know if anyone has any mods for the Azden PCS-6000H.
 I have hunted high and low and can't find any.
     Please respond to [e-mail]
     Thanks,
-Shawn


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From: [e-mail] (Steve Congrave)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: MORSE CODE TUTOR
Date: Sat, 16 Dec 1995 16:52:14 GMT
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A previous posting of mine asked for any freeware or shareware morse
code tutors. Lots of people have emailed me asking if I found one to
let them know.

The first one I have located is now on our server and I will add any
more that I find.

You can ftp download the file W3IVPMT.ZIP (<500K) from

ftp.talk-101.com

and select directory c:\pub\upload\ibmpc

Login as anonymous and use your email address as the password.

Have fun and keep looking for more when I find it.

Regards and 73s

Steve Congrave
G6SHZ



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From: dave eckhardt <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Need GPS supplier...
Sender: [e-mail] (Boise Site News Server)
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Two good suppliers are:

   American Avionics, Inc.
   7675 Perimeter Rd. South
   Boeing Field
   Seattle, Washington 96108
   Phone: [phone]


   Gizmos & Electronics
   I don't have address
   Phone: [phone]


They both advertise in "Amateur Radio Trader"


Dave Eckhardt - W6LEV
[e-mail]   (work)
[e-mail]   (home)



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Lines: 21

Two good suppliers are:

   American Avionics, Inc.
   7675 Perimeter Rd. South
   Boeing Field
   Seattle, Washington 96108
   Phone: [phone]


   Gizmos & Electronics
   I don't have address
   Phone: [phone]


They both advertise in "Amateur Radio Trader"


Dave Eckhardt - W6LEV
[e-mail]   (work)
[e-mail]   (home)



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From: [e-mail] (gloria medcalf)
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Subject: New Ham Web Site with Information Content
Date: Thu, 14 Dec 1995 21:19:58 -0600
Organization: Internet Direct Communications - Lawrence, Ks - [phone]
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A new ham radio related web site is on-line. It contains Articles
and Radio-TNC Wiring Diagrams.

URL: http://www.idir.net/~medcalf/ztx/

Current Articles

    Desense: Some Possible Solutions

    TOR Modes: Hearing the Difference (includes sound files)

    Getting Information from a Weathernode

I plan to add an article approximately once a month. These articles may
be reprinted in amateur radio club newsletters provided that credit is
given to the author.

73 gloria ka5ztx   [e-mail]


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From: [e-mail] (Wireless Institute of Australia NSW)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,aus.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: NEW WEB PAGE: Wireless Institute of Australia (VK2 Division)
Date: 16 Dec 1995 11:53:21 +1100
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        Wireless Institute of Australia (VK2) on Web

Hello all,

I'd like to invite all World Wide Web "surfers" to check out the Web
page of the Wireless Institute of Australia (New South Wales Division).

The WIA is the only internationally recognised organisation
representing the interests of Radio Amateurs in Australia, and the New
South Wales (VK2) Division's Web page is located at:

     http://sydney.dialix.oz.au/~wiansw/

The page contains information about the WIA (of course!), and
various related topics, such as contact lists for clubs, and
hot links to the SMA (the regulatory body in Oz), IPS Radio
and Space Services (who provide us with those propagation
reports), and links to 300+ other Amateur sites world wide.

You'll also find information about VK2WI, the Division's
broadcast station, including transmission schedules, a
list of upcoming events on the Australian Amateur Radio
calendar, the Internet Australian Radio Amateur Frequently
Asked Questions (FAQ) list, and a section for overseas
Amateurs who are planning to visit Australia.

(Oh, and also info about how you can win an ICOM IC-706)

The pages are still under development, so there are some gaps
here and there (I'm waiting for updated contact info from the
radio clubs, for example), but these will be filled in the
near future.

73 Richard VK2SKY
for the Wireless Institute of Australia (New South Wales Division)

PS: On packet, you may encounter some abusive comments by Julie Kentwell
VK2XBR/VK2ISI, who has taken exception to the Division establishing this
Web page. Without having seen it, he has claimed that it contains lies,
though about whom or what he hasn't said. Please disregard the
histrionics of this person, who is regarded by many VK Amateurs as a
raving lunatic.



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In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (John Albert) writes:
|> There's a simple solution to the No Code controversy.
|>
|> Give H.F. phone privilages to the No-Coders and allow them,
|> for example, the General class phone privilages. They cannot
|> operate in the CW or digital portions of the band.  i
|>
|> When they learn the code they simply take the test and receive
|> a general class and the CW privilages.
|>
|> The limited license will allow a person to wet his wistle and if
|> he want's to operate a digital mode, he (or she)  will be forced
|> to learn the code.
|>
|>
|> Jack Albert WA9FVP

Sounds good, but let's allow digital as well. I have yet to use
CW for any of the packet stuff I do.


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Subject: No Code Solution
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There's a simple solution to the No Code controversy.

Give H.F. phone privilages to the No-Coders and allow them,
for example, the General class phone privilages. They cannot
operate in the CW or digital portions of the band.  i

When they learn the code they simply take the test and receive
a general class and the CW privilages.

The limited license will allow a person to wet his wistle and if
he want's to operate a digital mode, he (or she)  will be forced
to learn the code.


Jack Albert WA9FVP


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From: [e-mail] (Nathan Ryan Gingras)
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Glenn Mead ([e-mail]) wrote:
: In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (John Albert) writes:
: |> There's a simple solution to the No Code controversy.
: |>
: |> Give H.F. phone privilages to the No-Coders and allow them,
: |> for example, the General class phone privilages. They cannot
: |> operate in the CW or digital portions of the band.  i
: |>
: |> When they learn the code they simply take the test and receive
: |> a general class and the CW privilages.
: |>
: |> The limited license will allow a person to wet his wistle and if
: |> he want's to operate a digital mode, he (or she)  will be forced
: |> to learn the code.
: |>
: |>
: |> Jack Albert WA9FVP
:
: Sounds good, but let's allow digital as well. I have yet to use
: CW for any of the packet stuff I do.


I think the original author is trying to imply a way of letting people
"get their feet wet", while still giving them a reason to know code.
Adding digital priveleges would be just giving the license away! I am
opposed to fully abolishing code requirements, because it would make
people lazy. Besides, cw is fun, and really not that hard to learn!


--...  ...--,


Nate, KB9LSX



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From: [e-mail] (Robert Moldenhauer)
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In article <4aohd4$[e-mail]>, [e-mail]         says...
>I think the original author is trying to imply a way of letting people
>"get their feet wet", while still giving them a reason to know code.
>Adding digital priveleges would be just giving the license away! I am
>opposed to fully abolishing code requirements, because it would make
>people lazy. Besides, cw is fun, and really not that hard to learn!

Comrade,

If CW was so much fun why do you have to force people to learn it?  If it'a fun
then you can eliminate the test and people will still keep doing it.
The test become irrellevant.  Your thinking reminds me of the old Soviet Union.






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From: [e-mail] (Gary Hosler - KN0Z)
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John Albert wrote:
>
> There's a simple solution to the No Code controversy.
>
> Give H.F. phone privilages to the No-Coders and allow them,
> for example, the General class phone privilages. They cannot
> operate in the CW or digital portions of the band.  i
>
> When they learn the code they simply take the test and receive
> a general class and the CW privilages.
>
> The limited license will allow a person to wet his wistle and if
> he want's to operate a digital mode, he (or she)  will be forced
> to learn the code.
>
> Jack Albert WA9FVP

Why stop at HF phone Jack?  Why not give them the entire ham
radio spectrum and completely eliminate the crying and complaining
once and for all!  Better yet,...just have the FCC sell off the
spectrum, eliminate Ham Radio, and reduce the taxpayers dollars
with the profits.  Seems to me it all makes about the same amount
of sense.  Until the ITU changes its mind the FCC can't change a
thing.  If the folks want the spectrum, just meet the requirements.
Seems that the folks that want to work DX on HF and only use SSB
forget that much of the DX doesn't speak English and far greater
numbers of us don't speak foreign languages, yet CW still allows
us to communicate.  We also are expected to be able to provide
emergency communications during time of need.  There is a tendency
to forget (with every 3rd car in the US equipped with a cellphone)
that in many 3rd world countries the phone system is very poor and
unreliable even in good times.  During earthquakes, floods, etc.
those communications links are non-existant.  As nice as GTOR,
AMTOR, etc. are to use and with the error reduction capabilities
that are written into the firmware, not all Hams have this neato
technology.  During an emergency situation communication in its
most basic form, regardless of language, is still CW.  It doesn't
have to be everyones favorite mode, but it still makes sense as
a requirement.  For those who want to work HF phone and not learn
the code,....no problem, thats why Hams gave away 11 Meters years
ago.  It all makes very little difference as the law is the law.
Ya want the spectrum, meet the requirements!  JUST DO IT!
                        73's & GUD DX

Opinions expressed herein are my own and may not represent those of 3M.


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From: [e-mail] (Robert Moldenhauer)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: No Code Solution
Date: 16 Dec 1995 15:14:25 GMT
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In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] says...
>Seems that the folks that want to work DX on HF and only use SSB
>forget that much of the DX doesn't speak English and far greater
>numbers of us don't speak foreign languages, yet CW still allows
>us to communicate.

Morse code is NOT a language.  With the *abbreviations* commonly in use you
can find out where somebody is and a few other tidbits of information but you
can't discuss Descartes or even what you had for dinner because abbreviations
don't exist for those things.  Whether this is cmmunication or not is another
question.

>We also are expected to be able to provide
>emergency communications during time of need.

More smoke, I've issued this challenge many times.  Name a *modern* emergency
where the *priciple* communications took place using Morse Code.  Almost all
emergency communication has been either voice or packet.  Hmmm, maybe we
*should* replace the antiquated Morse Code test with a Packet Test...

>There is a tendency
>to forget (with every 3rd car in the US equipped with a cellphone)
>that in many 3rd world countries the phone system is very poor and
>unreliable even in good times.

More smoke, most US hams don't set foot in the Third World, yet this always
comes up.  Wake up folks, this isn't the age of the "noble savage" anymore.
You'd be hard pressed to find a corner of the world where Amatuer Radio is
allowed and there isn't an active packet service.  Yeah, it would be great to
be able to use ham gear in Syria, but try to get a license.  President Assad
even licenses Fax machines, and it's hard to get a license...

>During earthquakes, floods, etc.
>those communications links are non-existant.  As nice as GTOR,
>AMTOR, etc. are to use and with the error reduction capabilities
>that are written into the firmware, not all Hams have this neato
>technology.  During an emergency situation communication in its
>most basic form, regardless of language, is still CW.

The air is getting rather hazy, this group need a no-smoking section.  Name
the place and the situation.  Why are the pro-Coders so gullable sometimes
and so obstinate other times?  Most emergency situations in both the
developed world and the "3rd World" require the use of 2 metre handtalkies,
people don't have the luxury of using CW.
The (debatably) greatest impact that ham radio had on current affairs, the
Yeltsin broadcasts from the Russian White House took place on voice...

>It doesn't
>have to be everyones favorite mode, but it still makes sense as
>a requirement.

No it doesn't, though packet might...

>For those who want to work HF phone and not learn
>the code,....no problem, thats why Hams gave away 11 Meters years
>ago.  It all makes very little difference as the law is the law.
>Ya want the spectrum, meet the requirements!  JUST DO IT!

Or lobby for change, hams should be at the forefront of technology rather
than wasting their time protecting an outdated law.  The final smoke from the
pro-codes is always the thickest.  When it comes to antenna restrictions
they'll fight tooth and nail and chear on the fight.  When it comes to
removing an antiquated law that they like, well then "the law is the law."

>                        73's & GUD DX
>
>Opinions expressed herein are my own and may not represent those of 3M.



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From: [e-mail] (Jerry B Altzman)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: No-Code = Affirmative Action
Date: 14 Dec 1995 03:18:29 GMT
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In article <4agbor$[e-mail]>,
Stephan Rashkin <[e-mail]> wrote:
>[e-mail] (Jerry B Altzman) wrote:
>>Except that amateur radio isn't a private "fraternity", requiring a display
>>of devotion to the "hobby" like swallowing live goldfish or group
>>masturbation in the quad. It's a government-sponsored *service*, requiring
>>only licensure to the satisfaction of the gummint, not to other hams (and
>>especially not to Mike and Mike).

>>Welcome to Usenet, where it's always September.

>Ah, but it used to be a sort of "fraternity"..probably something you

You mean, with goldfish-swallowing and group masturbation and the whole bit?
Won't Burt Fisher be surprised!

[...ahh, nostalgia, walking uphill, both ways, to a surly FCC tester with a
cigar...deleted.]

>and have an understanding of basic circuits and operation..Yup
>amateur radio is going down the tubes..mainly because of those
>that don't feel it's worth any "devotion" and "sweat"...I have lost

??? It's gone down the tubes for the same reasons that everything else has
gone down the tubes. Not for lack of devotion, or sweat, but because of a
general change in the attitude that people have for one another: screw the
other guy.

>lots of respect for ham radio, because of those that feel ham
>radio doesn't deserve any devotion or that fellow amateurs are
>are not part of a special group...And as I and others lose our

I wasn't aware that "devotion" or "special group" were part of the Amateur
Radio _Service_ charter in 47 CFR 97.

>respect of amateur radio, you can expect more jamming, cursing
>etc..because it will have transformed itself to the lower forms of CB.

You have it backwards. Because amateur operators have let the bands slip by
tolerating anti-social behavior, the service has lost respect.

>Yup, Just like Jerry Altzman said, he doesn't think it requires any
>devotion...Yeah Jerry I guess you kinda made it so it's like renewing

If the FCC doesn't think it requires "devotion" why should I? I value my
license for what it allows me to do, not because I plowed in XX hours of
studying to pass the exams.

>the registration on a car..

Renewing my license is considerably less onerous than car re-registration.
For one, I don't have to change the plates on my rig. Two, it's free.

>Steve, WA2NHZ

//jbaltz
jerry b. altzman   Entropy just isn't what it used to be      [phone]
[e-mail]   [e-mail]  KE3ML  (HEPNET) NEVIS::jbaltz


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From: [e-mail] (Jerry B Altzman)
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Subject: Re: No-Code = Affirmative Action
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In article <4ahu70$[e-mail]>,
Cecil A. Moore~ <[e-mail]> wrote:
>In article <4ag455$[e-mail]>,
>Jerry B Altzman <[e-mail]> wrote:
>>Except that amateur radio isn't a private "fraternity", requiring a display
>>of devotion to the "hobby" like swallowing live goldfish or group
>>masturbation in the quad.

>Time to take off the blinders. IMO Morse code testing is exactly like
>swallowing live goldfish - After all, fish is good for you just like
>Morse code. Everyone should be forced to eat fish - right?

Thank you for supporting my point (I think).

>73, Cecil, KG7BK, OOTC  (not speaking for my employer)

//jbaltz
jerry b. altzman   Entropy just isn't what it used to be      [phone]
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..I remember having to draw schematics of circuits
>and have an understanding of basic circuits and operation..Yup
>amateur radio is going down the tubes..mainly because of those
>that don't feel it's worth any "devotion" and "sweat"...I have lost
>lots of respect for ham radio, because of those that feel ham
>radio doesn't deserve any devotion or that fellow amateurs are
>are not part of a special group...And as I and others lose our
>respect of amateur radio, you can expect more jamming, cursing
>etc..because it will have transformed itself to the lower forms of CB.

>Steve, WA2NHZ

You are totally correct Steve thanks to people like
you Ham radio is going down the tubes.
Only understanding basic ckts. and havbing a basic knowledge
of electronics.
I spent 5 years of my life in the USAF in Ground Radio
 I can set up and repair all of the Equipment needed for an
airport including the radar. I have worked more Hf than most
hams. But since iam not devoted enough to learn the code
as you say, i should not be ham. I dont think your devoted
enough to the electronics side of ham radio, so
you really shouldn't be a ham either.
Lets raise those cushy electronic standards !!!!!
AND GET REALLY DEVOTED!!!!
                   Globber




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[e-mail] (Jerry B Altzman) wrote:

Steve:
>>Ah, but it used to be a sort of "fraternity"..probably something you

Jerry:
>general change in the attitude that people have for one another: screw the
>other guy.
>If the FCC doesn't think it requires "devotion" why should I? I value my
>license for what it allows me to do, not because I plowed in XX hours of
>studying to pass the exams.

I said used to be...but you do have your points..

Steve, WA2NHZ




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In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Az0th) writes:
>Hi Mike,
>
>: The real "shame" is the fact that most white hams believe that
>: amateur radio *isn't* a racist hobby.
>
>: I stand by my original assertion. Ham Radio is an institutionally
>: racist hobby.
>
>Then I suppose the black VE at my own exam session doesn't count? I
>suppose I should also forget the other black hams I've worked with
>and for over the years? I don't think so, Mike.
>
>Racism, sexism and all the other isms to which flesh is heir are
>entirely matters of human behaviour. Amateur radio is only a hobby,
>and a regulated, technically oriented entity with absolutely no
>racial content, orientation or agenda. Amateur radio would exist
>even without all those aging white guys you seem so bothered about:
>_they_ don't matter, either, and I've seen no evidence that any
>significant percentage of that dominant *American* class of hams
>has _any_ racial bias to speak of.
>
>Sure, I expect I could pick out a dozen racist hams on any given
>night, especially on 75M, especially from 4 and 5 land. This
>reflects the racial history of the American south-east, NOT ham
>radio. See the difference? I knew you could.
>
>Insular, prejudiced, ill-educated, aging, drunken white guys from
>The South (or The North or wherever, there's one in every crowd):
>with radios or without, they've always been more trouble than
>they're worth, and many of them are genetically endowed with
>mouths much larger than their brains. But they are, if anything,
>only the hind end of ham radio, and not the head, and they have
>no future. Most of us have better sense. We are everywhere, and
>there are more of us than you think. };-]
>
>Cheers es 73
>RF "aging white guy" Buchanan
>
GEEEEEE.... I wonder what the rest of the hams out there in the DX countries
condider themselves to be ???? Are Asians white ??? Are Africans white ??? Are
the fellows in South America and the Carribean white ??? Son of a gun.. I
guess they must be since this is such a racist hobby with only white boys
allowed. Oh how SEXIST of me to forget about the ladies !! I guess Mike's
radio must have a special filter on it to prevent enjoyment of the hobby.
 We end up with this same kind of crap in engineering. The profession, I
 believe, is a discipline not unlike any other such as teaching, law,
 medicine, etc. However, there are some jerks out there who truely belive the
 occupation is racist as well as sexual. This is why we have such
 organizations such as the Society of Women Engineers and Society of Black
 Engineers. I would hope that this type of thinking would result in the
 establishment of a "color or sexual" title of an ARRL type organization. We
 already have the establishment of the Lambda radio club for gays and
 bisexuals. Do we really need to go further down this road to make amateur
 radio something other than a great hobby or "pool of technical" resources as
 spelled out in the FCC Communications Act ??

Just some fuel for the fire or grist for the mill. All you racist sexual pigs
out there , please feel free to flame at will. Better you spend your time on
the keyboard flaming me than on the air.

        73's  Dick K8WHA
>
>


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In article <4aibnm$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (JonetteThornhill) writes:

:As I posted in another place in this newsgroup today, I am a
:no code technician.
:
:I am UNABLE to go any higher because I CANNOT tell the difference
:between ._ and _. (a and n). I can read CW when printed, but can-
:not determine the difference by ear. It is a matter of the BRAIN.
:It does not work normally.
:
:Maybe you are right. Maybe I should not be allowed to assist the
:local police department with weather, disasters and fires and etc.
:Maybe I should say that these things can wait until someone that
:does not have my problem comes along. I don't feel you are
:right in all cases.
:
...

:================================================================
:Jonette Thornhill                                     ARS KC5EFJ
:E-Mail ==> [e-mail]
:Opinions expressed may not represent those of the author.
:================================================================
:


Jonette,

I had exactly the same problem you describe when I first tried to
learn code (back in the days of ration books, etc :)). I just could
not distinguish between similar sounds. Actually never got
a license then. Many many years later, I discovered CodeQuick, which
largely takes the cognitive part of the brain out of the *receiving*
of the sounds. I passed 5 wpm within a month of twice a day, six
minutes a day practice. 13 followed quickly; 20 later.

:Thanks for listening to a lazy lame-brained no-code tech.

I can't accept the "lazy lame-brained" part; our brains don't all
work the same (sometimes mine doesn't work at all:) )

We just have to find what works best for each of us.

Kristin  (WX9T)

--
                      Kristin Rachael Hayward
    Director of Administrative Information Systems and Business Services
                        University of Maine
                http://www.umeais.maine.edu/~hayward


From Unknown Sun Dec 17 15:50:02 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Carl Steckler)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: no-code=no-brain
Date: 15 Dec 1995 12:43:39 GMT
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In article <4a2nc4$85c$[e-mail]>,
[e-mail] says...
>
>Mark--
>
><<Quit stereotyping no-code techs!  WE ARE HAMS BY DEFINITION AND BY
>LAW!>>
>
>You may be licensed to use the spectrum, but you sure ain't a ham.
>
>Don't delude yourself. General Class and above to be a "real ham".
>
>-mike
>
>wa4d-
>
>--
>Mike Whatley

Some elmer you would make. Great encouragement. I sure am glad that the hams
in my area don't live in the stone age, but I guess that we aren't "real
hams" by your standards. Have a nice day, 73 (oops do I have to be a "real
ham" to say that?).
--
Carl (ex-jarhead) Semper Fi
KB2SGX
"For those who fought for it, freedom has a flavor the
protected will never know"
Unknown Marine, Khe Sahn, Viet Nam



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From: [e-mail] (KF2TI)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: no-code=no-brain
Date: 15 Dec 1995 22:52:26 -0500
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In article <4arqhr$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Carl
Steckler) writes:

>Some elmer you would make (refering to everyone's fool and nobodys friend
WA4Dum

Would that be Elmer Fudd???


be vewwy vewwy qwiet...i'm hunting hams  hehehheheheheh


unhappy macnam....flipflop...clem clone..back to the shadows again



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From: [e-mail] [Joshua W. Flood]
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: no-code=no-brain
Date: 17 Dec 1995 07:36:23 GMT
Organization: SoVerNet, Inc.
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>Some elmer you would make. Great encouragement. I sure am glad that the hams
>in my area don't live in the stone age, but I guess that we aren't "real
>hams" by your standards. Have a nice day, 73 (oops do I have to be a "real
>ham" to say that?).

I agree. I am a no coder myself. I have every intention of upgrading someday, but
right now school takes up most of my time. The way some hams talk about us Technicians
makes me wonder if I really want to upgrade so that I can spend my time talking to these
people. I know that not all Hams that know the code (not Call ATT or whatever) have the same
opinions on this matter, but those that do seem to be pushing prospective new hams away.
With the stuff I am learning in my electronics classes the only thing standing in my way of
Extra class will be the code, which I don't have time to devote to right now.

The scary part is that when I first got my license I had no intention of using HF, but after
helping my father (AA1LR) figure out his first HF rig and playing with it a little bit, I decided
that learning the code is not that bad a price to pay for those priviledges. Plus code does have
a few applications that are still worthwhile.

- Josh

=============================================================================
[e-mail]                                                             [e-mail]
[e-mail]
[e-mail]                                                                 N1TYM
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From: [e-mail] (Michael P. Deignan)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: no-code=no-brain
Date: 17 Dec 1995 11:55:23 -0500
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In article <4b0h9n$[e-mail]>,
        <[e-mail] [Joshua W. Flood]> wrote:

>I agree. I am a no coder myself. I have every intention of upgrading someday,
>but right now school takes up most of my time.

Interesting concept. You somehow had the "time" to get your Tech license.
You somehow have the "time" to use your Tech license. But now when the
issue shifts to "upgrading", you mysteriously no longer have the "time",
with "school" being the convenient "out" for you. Typical welfare-state
mentality justification for handouts.


MD
--
--
-- "Who needs looks when you've got taste?"
--


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From: [e-mail] (Neal McEwen)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Old Timers, Need Help with Keys
Date: 15 Dec 1995 18:33:14 -0600
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Hello Gang,

  I've got some telegraph key / bug restorations going and need a few parts to
  finish up.

1. Bunnell Gold Bug -- need the circuit closing lever and mounting hardware.
2. Signal Electric Semantic -- need the pendulum stop post.
3. Electro Bug -- need weights.  need one thumbscrew and jam nut.
4. Levinson Radio "Like-A-Flash" -- need finger pieces, binding posts.
5. Logan SPEED-X reverse frame -- need finger pieces
6. Clapp-Eastham -- need binding posts
7. Independent Wireless -- need binding posts

   Would buy parts off your junkers or buy your junkers for the parts.

--

73 de K5RW     - Neal McEwen                    - Richardson, TX (Dallas)
  ******** I collect old telgraph and wireless telegraph keys  *********
HomeNet        - [e-mail]           - OS/2 tcp/ip SLIP
HomePage       - http://fohnix.metronet.com/~nmcewen/techno_weenies.html


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From: [e-mail] (Damien Vale)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: On-line Ham Magazine?
Date: 13 Dec 95 22:56:00 GMT
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         The November issue of "73 Magazine" mentioned that there was
         a new on-line Ham magazine, giving [e-mail] as the
         address. However mail to that address bounces, with the
         message "Not a known user".

         Does anyone have the correct address and/or info?

         Damien VK3CDI



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From: [e-mail] (Ed Mitchell)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: On-line Ham Magazine?
Date: 14 Dec 1995 04:51:22 GMT
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In article <[e-mail]>,
[e-mail] says...
>
>         The November issue of "73 Magazine" mentioned that there was
>         a new on-line Ham magazine, giving [e-mail] as the
>         address. However mail to that address bounces, with the
>         message "Not a known user".
>
>         Does anyone have the correct address and/or info?
>
>         Damien VK3CDI
>

I do know anything about this online magazine. However, we are putting out a
free online ham radio magazine and are getting as many as 400 visitors a day so
far. We feature original stories, newsletters, and real-time propagation
reports and solar data, plus real-time auroral radio conditions. Take a look at
http://www.accessone.com/~vbook/hronline.htm.

We also have real-time disaster communications data (world wide weather
conditions, satellite photos and live earthquake data).

We are doing this as hobby and having a blast. You can write us at
[e-mail].

73, Ed, KF7VY




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From: Burt Fisher <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: p*ss poor hams...
Date: 14 Dec 1995 02:04:41 GMT
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"Donald I. Baker" <[e-mail]> wrote:
>
>IMO, attacking a fellow ham you don't agree with, especially with anonymous
>as a first name really poorly reflects on the amateur community at large.

Actually it shows hams for what character they have.
(hide behind the mike).

#================#=====================================================#
|  Burt Fisher   |  Teacher of video, broadcasting and electronics     |
| Amateur call   |         South Dennis, Ma. (Cape Cod)                |
|    K1OIK       |  The less you say, the more people will remember    |
#================#=====================================================#
|                            [e-mail]                          |
#======================================================================#

I never make the mistake of arguing with people for whose opinions I have no
respect.
Edward Gibbon




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From: [e-mail] (Ej Johnson)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: PACKARD BELL >>WILL<<
Date: Tue, 12 Dec 1995 05:08:00 GMT
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MM}}and on a couple machines flatbed scanners, and a couple others
MM}}CDs and sound cards.
MM}}Sorry - can't add both a CD and a 2nd HD. Sorry - gotta replace
MM}}ALL the ram to add more memory - and you gotta buy it from us,
        My 1994 PB can use industry standard memory simms
        Pariety or no pariety (mixable)
MM}}it's special. Sorry - can't
        have a sound card and a scanner.
                EJ!

 * OLX 2.1 TD * "Not tonight baby.....I have a modem."


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From: [e-mail] (Thomas Grant Edwards)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Pictures of spacecraft carrying Spartan Packet Radio Experiment online
Date: 13 Dec 1995 13:39:44 -0500
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Pictures of the Spartan 206 OAST-FLYER spacecraft which will carry the
Spartan Packet Radio Experiment (SPRE) in early Jan. 1996 are now online at:

        http://sspp.gsfc.nasa.gov/sp206.html

SPRE is a 2m packet "easysat" which will be a test of the usefulness of
real-time downlinks of space-based GPS positions as well as using APRS (tm)
systems to digipeat terrestrial locations through LEO spacecraft.

The Spartan 206 spacecraft is a free-flier which is deployed from the
Space Shuttle payload bay during mission STS-72, and left on its own for about
46 hours.  After that time, the Shuttle picks up the Spartan and returns
it to earth.

For more information on SPRE, go to WWW URL:

        http://w3eax.umd.edu/spre.html

-Thomas
 N3HAU



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From: "Martin Biallas" <[e-mail]>
Date: Wed, 13 Dec 1995 14:12:01 +0100
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Hello to everyone who reads this!


Actually I don t know if my question is located in the right newsgroup here, but I
think my question can be answered from a (PR) HAM operator. Essential knowledge
only ... :)

My question is:   How can you calculate the needed bandwidth by knowing only the
baud rate?

Could it be this:     x baud = x Hz  ? For example, transmission speed = 1200 baud,
means badwidth of 1200 Hz?


Thanks a lot for all answers!

Bye ...

        Martin
[e-mail]
To get my PGP Pubkey send a mail with Subject 'SendPGP' (NOT via FIDO!!).


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From: [e-mail] (S. Sampson)
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Subject: Re: Q: How is the badwidth for PR calculated?
Date: Sat, 16 Dec 1995 09:53:18
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<[e-mail]> writes:

>My question is:   How can you calculate the needed bandwidth by knowing only the
>baud rate?

You can't.  FM Bandwidth has to do with modulating tone frequency and
deviation.

>Could it be this:     x baud = x Hz  ? For example, transmission speed = 1200 baud,
>means bandwidth of 1200 Hz?

The ARRL handbook should have a Bessel chart in it somewhere.  What you do is
find the Modulation Index in Radians, and then go along the Bessel chart at the
bottom.  FM packet at 1200 baud uses 1200 Hz and 2200 Hz.

For example a peak deviation of 3.0 kHz, a modulating tone of 2200 Hz, results
in a Modulation Index of 1.36 Radians.  Going across the Bessel chart on the
bottom till 1.36 is reached, and then grabbing the first line above the 0
baseline, will give you the number of sidebands.  This first line close to
0 is about 40 dB down, and detectable at range.  You should find about 4
sidebands as the answer.  Now since there are 4 on each side, you double
that to 8 and multiply by the modulating tone (2200 Hz).  This gives you
about 17.6 kHz bandwidth.  If instead you chose 3 sidebands each side
(about 30 dB down), you would get 6 times 2200 or 13.2 kHz bandwidth.  This
is about the limit of most stock FM radios.  The 3 dB bandwidth is about
15 kHz.  It would seem that your target deviation is just shy of 3.0 kHz,
and of course the tone frequencies are fixed.

On SSB, the picture changes, since it is really FSK, not AFSK.



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From: [e-mail] (Angelo Campanella)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Q: What means "HAM"??
Date: Sun, 17 Dec 1995 06:10:27 GMT
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In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (William Carmichael) writes:

>In article <[e-mail]> "Martin Biallas"
><[e-mail]> writes:
>>still I couldn t figure out what "HAM" means.

>As I hear tell, in the early days of commercial radio, the "commercial" ops
>would sometimes lament interference from "amateur" operators by saying,
>"there goes those hams again...  hamming it up on the radio" or the like.  Of
>course, back then it was pretty much no holds barred.

The way I had it explained was that it was the combination of "hamming" it
up by excessive talking, but also that the worm "ham" sound like the first
syllable of "am-ateur".  Anyway, that's what I tel my (non-ham) friends.

Ang.  W8EDR


      /\/\/\/\/\/\/\ Sound Technology /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/



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Date: 14 Dec 1995 16:55:00 +0200
From: [e-mail] (Wolf Harranth)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,uk.radio.amateur
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> [e-mail] (Wolf Harranth) wrote:
> >QSL COLLECTION, an international foundation based in Vienna, Austria,
> host world's largest collection of QSL cards for research, publications,
> >exhibitions etc. There are many gaps in the US COUNTIES file ...
Walt Davidson G3NYY replied:
> This seems to be a singularly pointless exercise.  I am at a loss to
> understand what possible "research" benefit can be derived from
> collecting a QSL card from every county in the USA ...
Walt, you are right, there is little research value in US counties, USSR
oblasts etc. QSLs. But every collection aims to be complete, and you would
be surprised to see how delighted US hams are when they visit our USC
*exhibition*. And, just to give another example, quite recently a
*publisher* asked for a QSL from "Osmond County/dissolved" for an article
in his magazine - and we were happy to comply.
*Research* is being done in many other ways. We trace the amateur radio
history of many countries; we can provide the biographies of well-known
and long-forgotten hams; we provide documentation on all the major events
and developments... And we collect QSLs because the "ordinary" one of
today is the rare one of tomorrow, and many of the rare ones of yesterday
are lost forever.

> However, on a more positive note, if you wish me to bequeath my entire
> lifetime QSL collection to you in my will, please let me know.
You and all others are most welcome.

73 de Wolf OE1WHC
Hon. Curator, QSL COLLECTION
POB 2, A-1112 Vienna, Austria

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From: [e-mail]
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Radio Cards?
Date: 16 Dec 1995 03:00:15 GMT
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In <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (David Feustel) writes:
>I'm looking for an IBM pc compatible shortwave (and/or wideband) radio
>card that I can run with os/2. I'd like to be able to turn the radio
>on/off at specified times and also to be able to set the frequency and
>receive mode (am, (wide/narrow) fm, lsb, usb, etc).
>I also would like to be able to save to disk the digitized audio output
>from the radio.

Your best bet is probably not to look for an adapter card, but for a
synthesized-frequency reciever that can be controlled via a standard
RS232 port. If you want to digitize the audio, feed the output of that
into a soundcard and record away. That combination is more likely to
be available, doesn't require anything beyond standard device drivers,
is probably more versitile in the long run (you can run the radio even when
not connected to a PC), and so on...

Warning: Digitized audio burns huge amounts of disk space very quickly.
Unless you've got gigabytes and/or are only capturing VERY short samples,
I suspect that audio tape is a better solution.


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From: John Mouw <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Radio Shack HTX-202 "birdie" problem
Date: 13 Dec 1995 18:20:37 GMT
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Hi ken

I have 2 HTX-202's and now that you mention it, I seem to remember a
rushing noise at 146.76.  However with squelch set, I can null it out and
still use the 16/76 machines in the area.

Truthfully, the 202 is a pretty damn good rig.  All radio's have some
birdie and image problem at some frequency when your using a superhet.

73,  John KD4GIK



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From: [e-mail] (Bruce Kay)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Radio software for Macs?
Date: Wed, 13 Dec 1995 17:16:56 -0400
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Does anyone know where one can get (free or otherwise) radio software,
such as logging, antenna design, and propagation programs, for Macs?  I
know that there's lots for PCs, but I hate PCs, since I have to deal with
them (from the board level on up to application and networking software)
at work, and when I get home, I use Macs.

Tnx in advance, e-mail me or post as desired.

73,

Bruce, N1LLT

--
Bruce Kay, Dept. of Cognitive and Linguistic Sciences
Brown University, Box 1978, Providence, RI 02912
401-863-2608   [e-mail]


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From: [e-mail] (Petronet Networks)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: RCI-2950 ! HELP me!
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     HELP ME!
     I need schematic diagram of RANGER tranceiver (RCI-2950).
     Please send to:
Box 980, 185020, Petrozavodsk-20, Republic of Karelia, Russia.
     73! RK1NA (ex UN1CD)
     Konstantin Gvozdev
     Thanks you!




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From: [e-mail] (KF2TI)
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Subject: Re: Real people see what YOU are like
Date: 13 Dec 1995 16:11:14 -0500
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In article <4ajnv4$[e-mail]>, Burt Fisher <[e-mail]>
writes:

>Your entire message will fall on deaf ears.
>Most HAMS will not "get" your message.
>It was over an inch deep, the shallow will inherit ham radio.
>
>
>

HUH???? I don't get it!!


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From: Alan Johnson <kninectf>
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I have purchased two radios form Oklahoma Comm and have been very happy
with the service, price and the way that I was treated.  I don't believe
you can go wrong with them.

Alan
K9CTF
[e-mail]



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From: [e-mail] (Lee Allen)
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In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail]
says...
>
>Have you ever bought anything from Oklahoma Comm Center
(1-800-765-HAMS)??
>
>I'm looking at buying a radio mail order from them. They are $30
cheaper
>than most other stores with free shipping and I'm not sure of thier
>reliability.
>
>e-mail to [e-mail] or [e-mail]


I buy ALL my equipment there. I have shoped around, but with their
prices and they pay shipping, they are my ONLY store now....73

Lee N5KXI



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In article <4apm7b$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Lee Allen) writes:
>From: [e-mail] (Lee Allen)
>I buy ALL my equipment there.
>Lee N5KXI

ionet is an Internet provider IN Okla.  You don't have ties to OCC do you?  :-)




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From: Jerry Kreifels <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: REQUEST INFO - Oklahoma Comm Center
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[e-mail] (Greg Kopp) wrote:
>Have you ever bought anything from Oklahoma Comm Center (1-800-765-HAMS)??
>
>I'm looking at buying a radio mail order from them. They are $30 cheaper
>than most other stores with free shipping and I'm not sure of thier
>reliability.
>

I've dealt with OCC on 3 occaisions, beginning about Sept. 1994.  I have no
complaints with them.  I can't speak about return policies or anything, since
I've had no need to return, but I'd encourage you to buy from there.

73, Jerry

--
Jerry, KO6JV (Sacramento CA area)
[e-mail]
"My opinions, not my employer's."



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> Have you ever bought anything from Oklahoma Comm Center (1-800-765-HAMS)??
>
> I'm looking at buying a radio mail order from them. They are $30 cheaper
> than most other stores with free shipping and I'm not sure of thier
> reliability.
>
> e-mail to [e-mail] or [e-mail]

Hi Greg,

   I live a few miles from Oklahoma Comm Center and drop by often for a chat
with Mike and Tony.  They are the two guys you will most often deal with when
calling on the phone.  They are both knowledgeable active hams and are glad to
share their experiences to help you pick out the rig that is right for you.  I
have never seen a better price on equipment or support for the buyer.  I will
admit that they are more geared for mail order than counter sales and if you
walk into the showroom, you might wait awhile before they get around to helping
you.  If you are looking for reassurance, you have it.  They are on the up and
up and serious about selling you ham gear now and in the future.

P.S. -  If you talk to Mike, tell him Glenn said he is a bottomfeeder.  If you
talk to Tony, have him pass the message to mike.    o<:-)%

<><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><>
<>              Glenn Reed                <>
<>    OK Wing Communications - C.A.P.     <>
<>              Sooner  44                <>
<>                 KF5XB                  <>
<><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><>
 Note: The above remarks do not necessarily
       represent those of anything sentient.



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From: "John  L. Rouse" <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: ReRe: Contesting
Date: 14 Dec 1995 15:52:00 GMT
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As a now-and-again contester, I can assure you the experience has never
done much for my mental or physical wellbeing! I would equate contesting
with a couch-potato marathon, not a 10-k run. Alas, many of the
contesters of my acquaintance look as though they're courting serious
cardiac problems what with drooping guts and quivering chins whacking
them in the air when they turn too quickly to change antenna direction.
Not all, of course -- I'm an exception.  And then there's all that RF
floating around, posing a serious threat to your sperm count. The ideal
way to contest would be from the seat of an exercise bike while ingesting
tofu burgers and spring water with a twist of kumquat. Right!

73, John KA3DBN
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From: [e-mail] (gregory brown)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: ReRe: Contesting
Date: 15 Dec 1995 03:52:21 GMT
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Jerry Gardner ([e-mail]) wrote:

: The closest parallel I can think of to ham contesting is a bunch of
: guys sitting on couches eating chips and peanuts and swilling beer while
: watching an entire weekend's worth of football on TV.

Jerry, your detailed description indicates that you may have a far
greater knowledge of the latter activity (couch potatoing) than the
former (contesting).  But that's ok.  Everyone needs a hobby.

(You're comments were really just flame bait, weren't they???  You
don't seriously expect someone to spend the time pointing out the
rigors and benefits of active contesting, now do you?)

Hey, how'd that hook get in my mouth??...

Greg





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gregory brown ([e-mail]) wrote:
: Jerry Gardner ([e-mail]) wrote:

: : The closest parallel I can think of to ham contesting is a bunch of
: : guys sitting on couches eating chips and peanuts and swilling beer while
: : watching an entire weekend's worth of football on TV.

: Jerry, your detailed description indicates that you may have a far
: greater knowledge of the latter activity (couch potatoing) than the
: former (contesting).  But that's ok.  Everyone needs a hobby.

: (You're comments were really just flame bait, weren't they???  You
: don't seriously expect someone to spend the time pointing out the
: rigors and benefits of active contesting, now do you?)

Not flame bait at all. Just my experience with the local contesters.
They all look like poster boys for the American Heart Association
with their enormous beer guts, quadruple chins, and fat butts.

As for couch potatoing, I don't even own a couch or TV. I'd much rather
spend my time bicycling or skiing.

What's wrong, Greg, did my comments hit too close to home?


--
Jerry Gardner          | Maintainer of the Large Format Digest
[e-mail]    | Send subscription requests to [e-mail]


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From: Hans Brakob <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.policy
Subject: Reverse autopatch control op
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   A couple of folks have suggested here that the operator
"answering" a reverse-phone patch becomes the control
operator of the repeater and that the control link is
via the input frequency.  If the repeater is on 2-meters,
this method doesn't pass muster with FCC. Here is why.
--
   1. During third-party traffic, there must be a control
operator present at a control point. [97.115(b)(1)
and 97.109(e)]
   2. The control point may be local (at the repeater)
or remote (via wireline or radio). [97.109(b) and (c)]
   3. If the control link is via radio, the control link
must use an auxiliary station. [97.213(a)]
   4. An auxiliary station must operate above 222.15MHz.
[97.201(b)]
   5. The input frequency of a 2-meter repeater is
below 222.15MHz, thus it fails point 4, and the whole
idea falls apart.
--
73, de Hans, K0HB
--

--
- - - "Any sufficiently advanced technology is
      indistiguishable from magic."  A.C.Clarke
- - - Have you performed any radio magic
      this week?


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From: [e-mail] (Freddi  Warnke)
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Subject: Re: Satellit-Tracking STSPLUS
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Hallo Satellite-Tracking-Fan's,

I bought the Satellite-Tracking-Programm STSORBITPLUS version Sept.95
Now the programm needs for the purpose of "feeding" the
2-Line-element  or Kepler Dates for example : TLEnnn.TXT  or
N2L-nnn.TXT .
Where can I get these dates from INTERNET ??
Can somebody give me the http or ftp adresses ??

Thanks for response.

Greetings   Freddi



+----------------------------------------------------+
   Friedhelm Warnke    Postfach 1344   21505  GLINDE
   Tel.:[phone]         Mobil: 0161/8307508
               E-Mail:[e-mail]
+------------------------------------------------------+



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From: [e-mail] (David F. Kurth)
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Freddi  Warnke ([e-mail]) wrote:

: Hallo Satellite-Tracking-Fan's,

: I bought the Satellite-Tracking-Programm STSORBITPLUS version Sept.95
: Now the programm needs for the purpose of "feeding" the
: 2-Line-element  or Kepler Dates for example : TLEnnn.TXT  or
: N2L-nnn.TXT .
: Where can I get these dates from INTERNET ??
: Can somebody give me the http or ftp adresses ??

I use the anonymous ftp site:

archive.afit.af.mil


After logging in do:

  cd pub/space
  get tle.new

to get the latest elements.

73 Dave  N0UVR


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From: [e-mail] (Phil Knaack)
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In <4am7op$[e-mail]>
        [e-mail] (Henrik Johnsson) writes:

>It would most definitely not do the trick, at least not without large
>amounts of support logic. The original post was about asynchronous
>serial transfer. It can be done with the HD6402 as mentioned, but it
>will take a few extra chips to go along. A microcontroller with onboard
>PROM would probably give the lowest chip count, but you need some tools
>that not everyone has available (compiler/assembler, device programmer).

        This sounds like a great deal of overkill to me.

        serial-to-parallel: isn't a UART what is desired? Maybe a couple
more chips to generate strobe pulses, and a crystal; but that should be about
it.

Cheers,
Phil
--
Phillip F Knaack
Tech Junkie / Junk Techie


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From: [e-mail] (Phil Knaack)
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Subject: Re: Serial-to-Parallel Converter
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In <[e-mail]>
        [e-mail] (Larry DeSoto) writes:

>In article <4a383p$a74$[e-mail]>,
>       Brian Webb <[e-mail]> writes:

>> I'm trying to find either an IC or a schematic for converting
>> serial-parallel.

>You need a Universal Asynchronous Receiver Transmitter (UART).  One
>entirely satisfactory device I've used is a Giant AY-1013.  This is
>an old device and I don't know if they are still being manufactured.
>If you can get one, it is easy to use in that it requires minimal
>support (a clock and maybe a level converter for the serial line).

Just two years ago I replaced the 1013 in my Radio Shack TRS-80 Model III.

They are still rather easy to obtain.

Cheers,
Phil
--
Phillip F Knaack
Tech Junkie / Junk Techie


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From: [e-mail] (Richard Evans)
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Subject: Re: Serial-to-Parallel Converter
Date: 13 Dec 1995 17:26:36 GMT
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In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Larry DeSoto) writes:
|> In article <4a383p$a74$[e-mail]>, Brian Webb <[e-mail]> writes:
|> > I'm trying to find either an IC or a schematic for converting
|> > serial-parallel.
|> >
|> > I own a solid state radioteletype decoder (circa 1980) designed
|> > to work with serial printers. However, my printer, like virtually
|> > all others is parallel.
|>
|> You need a Universal Asynchronous Receiver Transmitter (UART).  One
|> entirely satisfactory device I've used is a Giant AY-1013.  This is
|> an old device and I don't know if they are still being manufactured.
|> If you can get one, it is easy to use in that it requires minimal
|> support (a clock and maybe a level converter for the serial line).

The 6402 is also suitable. This may be pin compatible with the AY-1013,
and is definitely still available. You can choose parity/stop bits etc
by hard wiring various pins high or low, and it will run up to 100Kbps.
This version needs a clock input, but there's also a 6403 which has a
clock generator built-in so you can just add a Xtal.

Rich
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-----------------------+----------------------+----------------------------
Richard Evans          |                      |SGS-Thomson Microelectronics
                       |Tel: [phone]|1000 Aztec West, Almondsbury
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From: [e-mail] (charles copeland)
Subject: Re: Serial-to-Parallel Converter
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
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In article <[e-mail]>,
Phil Knaack <[e-mail]> wrote:
>In <4am7op$[e-mail]>
>       [e-mail] (Henrik Johnsson) writes:
>
>>It would most definitely not do the trick, at least not without large
>>amounts of support logic. The original post was about asynchronous
>>serial transfer. It can be done with the HD6402 as mentioned, but it
>>will take a few extra chips to go along. A microcontroller with onboard
>>PROM would probably give the lowest chip count, but you need some tools
>>that not everyone has available (compiler/assembler, device programmer).
>
>       This sounds like a great deal of overkill to me.
>
>       serial-to-parallel: isn't a UART what is desired? Maybe a couple
>more chips to generate strobe pulses, and a crystal; but that should be about
>it.

68HC11 with embedded Forth. Takes about 10 lines of Forth. Has
serial port. Has parrallel port with centronics printer support logic.
Awesome little chip.




From Unknown Sun Dec 17 15:50:38 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Henrik Johnsson)
Newsgroups: sci.electronics,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.homebrew,rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc,de.comm.ham
Subject: Re: Serial-to-Parallel Converter
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Phil Knaack ([e-mail]) wrote:
> In <4am7op$[e-mail]>
>       [e-mail] (Henrik Johnsson) writes:

> >It would most definitely not do the trick, at least not without large
> >amounts of support logic. The original post was about asynchronous
> >serial transfer. It can be done with the HD6402 as mentioned, but it
> >will take a few extra chips to go along. A microcontroller with onboard
> >PROM would probably give the lowest chip count, but you need some tools
> >that not everyone has available (compiler/assembler, device programmer).

>       This sounds like a great deal of overkill to me.

>       serial-to-parallel: isn't a UART what is desired? Maybe a couple
> more chips to generate strobe pulses, and a crystal; but that should be about
> it.

That's what I said, wasn't it. The 6402 is a UART, I just pointed out
another option that might save a few chips. Please note that most UARTs
would require a processor both for setup and for data transfer. The 6402
and a few others don't, all setups are done by tying pins high or low and
there are separate 8-bit parallel buses for transmit and receive.

/Henrik

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From Unknown Sun Dec 17 15:50:40 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Mark Zenier)
Subject: Re: Serial-to-Parallel Converter
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in <[e-mail]>, Phil Knaack wrote:
: Just two years ago I replaced the 1013 in my Radio Shack TRS-80 Model III.

The real part numbers are either AY-5-1013, or AY-6-1013 (old PMOS parts
needing a negative supply) or the AY-3-1015 (5 volt NMOS) or a higher
voltage part (CMOS compatible) AY-3-1014 (5 to 14 volt NMOS).

Mark Zenier  [e-mail]  [e-mail]



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From: [e-mail] (Eric E. Scott)
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Subject: Re: Shuttle Radio / Emergency Info
Date: 14 Dec 1995 14:49:26 GMT
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In article <49dj8s$[e-mail]>, [e-mail]
says...
>
>Hi. I'm in the market for a radio which will allow me to:
>
>1) Listen to space shuttle / mission control voice transmissions (I'm
>near Livermore, California... over a small mountain from the SF bay
>area).
>
>2) Pick up emergency information after a natural disaster (an
>earthquake, in my case).
>
>Would a scanner or shortwave receiver be the best solution for me? Any
>suggestions about what I should look for will be greatly appreciated.
>Thanks!
>
>Marc Brutschy
>----------------------
>[e-mail]
>
The type of reception you are looking at is all VHF/UHF.  Unless you are
interested in some of the other SW servies I would get a scanner.
However if you get your No Code  Tech Ham licence you can talk to the
Space Shuttle using a simple 2m setup.  All you need to buy is a Radio
Shack Ht-202 and there 30 watt linier(sp) amp, and a good antenna.

Thanks

Eric E. Scott
KC7KLZ
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The opinions expressed in this message are my own personal views
and do not reflect the official views of Microsoft Corporation.



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From: [e-mail] (Doug Randall)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: six figure income
Date: Thu, 14 Dec 1995 18:05:33 GMT
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<[e-mail]> wrote:


xx>>From Ron Curry KE6WED
xx>>
xx>><<It must be the personal attributes which you have so astutely
xx>><<recongnized in me that have caused me to earn a BSEE and an
MSCE,
xx>><<FORCED  me bring home a six figure income for the last 10 years,
xx>><<become marketing manager for a $16billion company, earn a
xx>><commericial/instrument pilots license, own a half million dollar
xx>><<home, a BMW, an airplane, raise a child, be scoutmaster for the
xx>><<last 5 years, do volunteer work for the local schools, race
xx>>off-<<road vehicles semi-pro, etc.
xx>>


xx    Golly gee! Just think! He did all of that and STILL has time to
justify
xxhimself on the Internet!! Let's pat him on the back!

xxSteve

I can spell better than him and I don't have a job like that...

Doug



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From: [e-mail] (Ron Klein )
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: six figure income
Date: 17 Dec 1995 17:08:47 GMT
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In <4apoqc$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Doug Randall) writes:

>
><[e-mail]> wrote:
>
>
>xx>>From Ron Curry KE6WED
>xx>>
>xx>><<It must be the personal attributes which you have so astutely
>xx>><<recongnized in me that have caused me to earn a BSEE and an
>MSCE,
>xx>><<FORCED  me bring home a six figure income for the last 10 years,
>xx>><<become marketing manager for a $16billion company, earn a
>xx>><commericial/instrument pilots license, own a half million dollar
>xx>><<home, a BMW, an airplane, raise a child, be scoutmaster for the
>xx>><<last 5 years, do volunteer work for the local schools, race
>xx>>off-<<road vehicles semi-pro, etc.
>xx>>
>
>
>xx    Golly gee! Just think! He did all of that and STILL has time to
>justify
>xxhimself on the Internet!! Let's pat him on the back!
>
>xxSteve
>
>I can spell better than him and I don't have a job like that...
>
>Doug
>
>

I'm always VERY IMPRESSED with somebody who has to boast about his/her
achievements.

Many of us in this hobby have our own set of accomplishments.... and,
usually those who really know what they are doing don't need to tell
others about it.... it automatically shows by what they do!

73, Ron - W0OSK
--
Ron Klein
---------
[e-mail]


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                W3OK Special Event Station
        The DLARC (Deleware, Lehigh Amateur Radio Club)

        To celebrate the X-Mas season, we're having a special event
        station on 12/16-17 from 09:00am to 21:00pm (EST) both days.
        QSL on 3.965, 7.265, 14.265, 21.365, and 28.365.  For a certificate,
        send QSL and 9x12 SASE to DLARC, RR4, Greystone Building, Nazareth, PA
        18064.



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From: [e-mail] (Per-Tore Aasestrand)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Spread-Spectrum questions
Date: Sat, 16 Dec 95 16:02:47 GMT
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I understand that spread-spectrum techniques will allow the
transmission/reception of signals that are basically 'hidden' in the
background noise. I wonder how far it actually is possible to go. How
high can the so-called 'processing-gain' be? Will it be possible to
recover signals that are just under the receiver noise-floor? Some
popular discussion of SS are making statements that are not well
founded and difficult to believe.

I have also heard that SS radio is more able to penetrate obstacles
like concrete walls etc. This was in an article about indoor wireless
LANs. If this is a fact, what are the actual reasons for this?

I would very much appreciate any clarifications or references to where
these issues are discussed.

Best regards,

Per-Tore
LA7NO
[e-mail]



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From: [e-mail](Tom Roman )
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Spread-Spectrum questions
Date: 16 Dec 1995 18:43:50 GMT
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In <4auqj9$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Per-Tore
Aasestrand) writes:
>
>I understand that spread-spectrum techniques will allow the
>transmission/reception of signals that are basically 'hidden' in the
>background noise. I wonder how far it actually is possible to go. How
>high can the so-called 'processing-gain' be? Will it be possible to
>recover signals that are just under the receiver noise-floor? Some
>popular discussion of SS are making statements that are not well
>founded and difficult to believe.
>
>I have also heard that SS radio is more able to penetrate obstacles
>like concrete walls etc. This was in an article about indoor wireless
>LANs. If this is a fact, what are the actual reasons for this?
>
>I would very much appreciate any clarifications or references to where

>these issues are discussed.
>
>Best regards,
>
>Per-Tore
>LA7NO
>[e-mail]
>
There are several types of spread spectrum, the most common being
direct sequence, and frequency-hopping. Without getting into a detailed
discussion of how they work, basically the idea is to take a narrowband
signal and spread it over a much larger band. Given a fixed transmitted
power level, this leads to a much lower power density (i.e.
watts/Hertz), which is why the spread spectrum signal can be below the
noise floor. When the signal is despread, the original SNR is restored
due to the processing gain.

The amount of processing gain achievable is limited by practical
considerations, not theory. Processing gain is the ratio of the spread
bandwidth to the original narrow bandwidth. So if you start out with a
10 dB SNR narrowband signal with a bandwidth of 10 kHz, and spread that
to a bandwidth of 100 khz (a factor of 10 dB), the spread spectrum SNR
is 0 dB meaning the noise power is equal to the signal power. If you
spread to 200 kHz bandwidth, the processing gain is 13 dB, resulting in
a spread SNR of -3 dB, and the noise power is twice as strong as the
signal. So the signal is below the noise floor, but when you despread,
the original 10 dB SNR is recovered. Processing gains as high as 30 dB
have been achieved in practice.

The reason spread spectrum signals are able to "penetrate walls" is no
different than any other signal, since you can obviously use your AM or
FM radio indoors. However, spread spectrum techniques do afford an
advantage in wireless LAN system due to resistance to a phenomenon
called multipath fade. This is an effect you may have noticed while
listening to FM radio in a car. Occasionally the signal drops out, and
this is sometimes due to fades when the received signal arrives via
more than one path due to reflections off of buildings, etc, causing
destructive interference. Multipath interference is usually manifested
as narrow notches in the spectrum. Spreads spectrum signals, being
wideband in nature, have an inherent advantage since a much smaller
part of the signal is affected by these notches. Also, the "coding"
used for spread spectrum signals causes long multipath delays to be
uncorrelated, that is, they won't affect the direct path.

Hope this helps

Tom
WB2SCW




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From: wynnt <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Supposin' (ii)
Date: 16 Dec 1995 02:53:33 GMT
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[e-mail] (Hans Brakob) wrote:

>...What recommendations would you make for changes in the testing
>   and licensing structure for licensees in the US Amateur Radio
>   Service and/or Amateur Satellite Service?
>73, de Hans, K0HB
>
>
Ok, I'll bite.  What is the Amateur Satellite Service?  Did you define it in
your list of assumptions and prepositions? How does it differ from the
US Amateur Radio Service?  As this hypothetical situation is 1999, should
we suppose that the FCC still exists or has been privatized?  If privatized
what are the licensing fees, and since there is no longer any need to
hoodwink the US taxpayers should it not be the US Amateur Radio "Hobby"
and/or Amateur Satellite "Hobby"?  By that point in time, I suspect
Vince's prophesies would have come true, in which case there would only
need to be "beginner with limited access, and "master operator" with
full access.

73, wynnt



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From: [e-mail](Kenneth W. Anderson )
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Subject: Re: Swaps in CO?
Date: 13 Dec 1995 23:15:05 GMT
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In <[e-mail]> DScott
<[e-mail]> writes:
>
>Anyone know of any swaps coming up in Colorado?


The Winter Superfest is at Loveland on Jan. 13. Starts at 9:00am at the
Larimer County fairgrounds.


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From: [e-mail] (Don Simpson)
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Test 123


You are cordially invited to stop by the World Wide Web Page for A.S.A.P.                                  Protection Company at....

           http://www.mindspring.com/~ko4ta/alarm.html
Burglar/Fire Alarm  Equipment  for Sale at "Installer Direct" Pricing!



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From: [e-mail] (Steve Shumway )
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Subject: The "A" line
Date: 16 Dec 1995 18:21:53 GMT
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I'm interested in getting into ATV. Can anyone tell me what the "A"
line is? I live in Stow, Oh. Does it affect me?

TNX de N8SHP
Steve Shumway
[e-mail]



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A Politically Correct Merry

'Twas the night before christmas and santa's a wreck...
How to live in a world that's politically correct?
His workers no longer would answer to "Elves",
"Vertically challenged" they were calling themselves.
And labor conditions at the north pole
Were alleged by the union to stifle the soul.
Four reindeer had vanished, without propriety,
Released to the wilds by the Humane society.
And equal employment had made it quite clear
That santa had better not use just reindeer.
So dancer and donner, comet and cupid,
Were replaced with 4 pigs, and you know that looked stupid!
The runners had been removed from his sleigh;
The ruts were termed dangerous by the E.P.A.
And people had started to call for the cops
When they heard sled noises on their roof-tops.
Second-hand smoke from his pipe had his workers quite frightened.
His fur trimmed red suit was called "Unenlightened."
And to show you the strangeness of life's ebbs and flows,
Rudolf was suing over unauthorized use of his nose
And had gone on Gerlado, in front of the nation,
Demanding millions in over-due compensation.
So, half of the reindeer were gone; and his wife,
Who suddenly said she'd enough of this life,
Joined a self-help group, packed, and left in a whiz,
Demanding from now on her title was Ms.
And as for gifts, why, he'd ne'er had a notion
That making a choice could cause such a commotion.
Nothing of leather, nothing of fur,
Which meant nothing for him.  And nothing for her.
Nothing that might be construed to pollute.
Nothing to aim.  Nothing to shoot.
Nothing that clamored or made lots of noise.
Nothing for just girls. Or just for the boys.
Nothing that claimed to be gender specific.
Nothing that's warlike or non-pacific.
No candy or sweets...they were bad for the tooth.
Nothing that seemed to embelish the truth.
And fairy tales, while not fobidden,
Were like Ken and Barbie, better off hidden.
For they raised the hackles of those psychological
Who claimed the only good gift was one ecological.
No baseball, no football...someone could get hurt;
Besides, playing sports exposed kids to dirt.
Dolls were said to be sexist, and should be passe;
And nintendo would rot your entire brain away.
So santa just stood there, disheveled, perplexed;
He just could not figure out what to do next.
He tried to be merry, tried to be gay,
But you've got to be careful with that word today.
His sack was quite empty, limp to the ground;
Nothing fully acceptable was to be found.
Something special was needed, a gift that he might
Give to all without angering the left or the right.
A gift that would satisfy, with no indecision,
Each group of people, every religion;
Every ethnicity, every hue,
Everyone, everywhere...even you.
So here is that gift, it's price beyond worth...
"May you and your loved ones enjoy peace on earth."



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From: Stephan M. Anderman <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: This Week in Amateur Radio #142 (for air through 12/22/95)
Date: Fri, 15 DEC 95 22:43:54 -0500
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Here is a summary of news items covered on edition #142 of
"This Week in Amateur Radio", North America's satellite-delivered
audio bulletin service, for the week ending 22-Dec:
-
1.   DOVE-OSCAR 17 Suffers Another Major Failure
2.   VK5AGR Appointed IARU AMSAT Satellite Frequency Coordinator
3.   MIR Space Station Transmits Slow Scan TV Images on 2 Meters
4.   Federal Investigators Launch Another Inquiry into Microsoft
5.   "Christmas on 20 Meters" - 'Tis the Holiday Season
6.   "Gateway 160 Meter Net Report" with Vern Jackson, WA0RCR
7.   Upcoming Special Event Stations with George Bowen, N2LQS
8.   "Amateur Radio Newsline" - Edition #957 from Los Angeles
9.   Weekly Propagation Forecast
10.  New Amateur Radio Experiment Planned for Next Shuttle Flight
11.  "Twas the Night Before..."
12.  "The RAIN Dial-up" from Chicago
13.  North Pole Downsizes Due to Competition, More Cut-backs Likely
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"This Week in Amateur Radio" is a weekly amateur voice bulletin
service, produced by Community Video Associates, Inc., a New York
State not-for-profit corporation based in Albany, NY.  The program
is heard each Saturday at 8:00 PM (EST) and carried on VHF/UHF
repeaters throughout North America and on 160 meters at 1860 kHz.
Contact your local amateur radio club or repeater operator if
"This Week in Amateur Radio" is not being heard in your area.
-
Here in the Capital District, "This Week in Amateur Radio" is heard
on our "flagship" repeater, WA2OQE/R in Troy, on 145.33 MHz,
courtesy of the Niagara-Mohawk Amateur Radio Club.  The program is
repeated Mondays at 8:00 PM.
-
Due to the loss of satellite facilities, the service is being
carried exclusively on 160 meters and on the local 145.33 repeater.
The "Tech Talk Network" expects to complete negotiations with a new
satellite uplink carrier by the beginning of January.  "This Week
in Amateur Radio" will return at that time.  Details will be posted
as conditions warrant.  All affiliates are requested to contact the
producers for further information.
-
Production and transmission expenses are underwritten by donations
from repeater operators, amateur radio clubs, and individuals.
Further information is available from George Bowen, N2LQS, at
518/283-3665 (e-mail [e-mail]) or Stephan Anderman, WA3RKB,
at 518/664-6809 (e-mail [e-mail]).  You may also reach
them @ WA2UMX.FN32AW.ENY.NY.USA.NA via amateur packet.


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From: [e-mail] (Mike)
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Subject: TNC Cable
Date: 14 Dec 1995 15:55:18 GMT
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I'm looking for a cable to connect my KPC-3 to my Kenwood TM-733a. I've
obtained pin-outs for the 6-pin din but I can't find which line is the actual
PTT Line.

Also, I'm looking for the mod for the Kenwood tm241a that allows 9600 baud
packet. I've heard of some people who actually added a data jack to the radio,
and this is what I'm really looking for. Thnaks for your time, '73 Mike



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From: [e-mail] (Don Sterner)
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Subject: Re: TV Audio Reception
Date: 13 Dec 1995 22:50:29 GMT
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In article <4adbeo$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] says...
>
>In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail]
>says...
>> You could buy a $30 AM/FM/TV portable.
>
>Why be a smartass?
>

I was going to make the same reply he did. Since you don't approve, I won't.

de KD5BT



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Norm Collins ([e-mail]) wrote:
: I have a ICOM R7000 and have noticed that there is quite a bit of
: distortion when listening to TV audio signals.  Placing the radio in the
: FM (wide) position and attenuating the signal doesn't seem to help.
: I've heard better audio from $30 AM/FM/TV portables....
:
: Any comments or suggestions?

On the R-7000 there are a total of 3 wideness filters.  You get to select two
of the three from the FM / FMn switches on the front.  I suspect you are
switching between the narrow (5khz) and medium (whatever that is), and not
getting the wide (100khz) needed for TV sound.  I expect you have the same
problem receiving broadcast FM too.

There is a switch on the back of the unit which selects whether the front
panel switches pick narrow/medium or medium/wide.  It should be in the upper
position for wide band FM.

If that's not it, I seem to remember that there is a factory modification
available for some sort of distortion problem seen after the unit's been on
for a while.

Good luck,

Greg  KO6TH


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From: Philippe CUVINOT <[e-mail]>
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Hola,

Soy francΘs y estoy buscando a amigos para conversar acerca de temas
latino americanos. Me interesa muchφsimo la cultura precolombina y
estoy realizando una pßgina a prop≤sito de las grandes civilizaciones.
Escribanme para darme ideas interesantes. Gracias.
Hasta pronto, Philippe.


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From: [e-mail] (LUIS JOSE LEAL MARTINS)
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I would like to know if it is possible to buy a radio in a shop in the US
and ask them to export it to portugal.
Do you know about any shops doing that?

73 Luis Martins
CT1FNK



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Hi,

Does anyone know if there is any activity still in the
VLF band by unlicensed operators?  I read a magazine once
called the "Lowfer" or something like that that discussed the
subject of VLF experimental communications, quite often over
several hundred miles, by unlicensed experimenters who were
limited to low power and antennas of less than 50ft.

At these frequencies, it was noted that natural phenomena generates
some really strange signals.  One was called a whistler I think and had s
something to do with a signal getting caught in the earth's magnetic lines
of force and travelling thousands of miles into space and back.  Something
like thaty anyways.

Is anybody out there stillinto this or know of people who still are
or current sources of information on this radio hobby?

Please email responses to [e-mail].  I'll also watch
this newsgroup.

Thanks,
Dave
aa9bi


--

Dave Greene          Heurikon Corp.       [phone]


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From: Burt Fisher <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Warm up the ovens
Date: 14 Dec 1995 02:03:01 GMT
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[e-mail] wrote:

>This one is for K1"OInK"s highly intelligent comment on the subject:
                          ____
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So German.







#================#=====================================================#
|  Burt Fisher   |  Teacher of video, broadcasting and electronics     |
| Amateur call   |         South Dennis, Ma. (Cape Cod)                |
|    K1OIK       |  The less you say, the more people will remember    |
#================#=====================================================#
|                            [e-mail]                          |
#======================================================================#

I never make the mistake of arguing with people for whose opinions I have no
respect.
Edward Gibbon




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From: [e-mail] (charles copeland)
Subject: Re: What do you think of the KPC-9612 TNC ?
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In article <4amkpc$[e-mail]>,
Damien Dixsaut <[e-mail]> wrote:
>       Hi everyone,
>
>   I'm looking for someone who uses or has used a KPC-9612 TNC
>(9600 / 1200 bds dual port TNC) from Kantronics. I would like to
>know your opinion about it, particulary on the following points :
>
>   -Does it work well with those "9600 ready" radios like my kenwood
>    TM-255 ok TM-733 ?
>   -Is it a true G3RUH on the 9600 bds port ?
>   -What is the transfert rate (in cps) I can exect at 9600 bds ?
>
>   Any comment about this TNC greatly appreciated !
>
>
>          73 de Damien, F1LQJ in Paris, France
>
>e-mail: [e-mail]
>packet: [e-mail]

I heard from someone that had one. It had an intial bug that caused
it to lock up sometimes.



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From: [e-mail] (TeaForOne)
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Subject: Re: What do you think of the KPC-9612 TNC ?
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I have had the 9612 for 5 Months or so and have nothing but good things to
say about it. I use it with the 733 but have not yet hooked up for 9600,
as I have heard lots of bad
 things about the 733 on 9600.....mostly that it is not 9600 ready as
advertised. However the Kpc is great and I would buy one again tommorow.

Richard Florio -- [e-mail]
Generated  7:49:59 p on 12.13.95





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From: [e-mail] (John N0ISL)
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Subject: Re: What do you think of the KPC-9612 TNC ?
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I have two KPC-9612's on the air, one running as a NETROM. The TNC's are
great. The only problems that I have are finding raios that are really
9600 Baud ready. Alignment of whatever radio you choose is important. We
resorted to buying AEA's Deviation meter to align our Kantronic TNC and
radios. It was well worth the cost.

We are running ALINCO 1200TH2's, a YAESU 736, 2500's and
ICOM 281's here in Minnesota. I was also suprised to see how well the new
little rockbound MFJ transceiver will do. If you experience intermod just
use a cavity filter in front of the MFJ. Path is critical for 9600 so be
prepared to put better antennas higher and running a bit more power for
long links. Hope this helps
73 John
John Douglas, N0ISL
AX.25 N0ISL@KZ7I.#MSP.MN.USA.NOAM
I'm in Minnesota only because I must be somewhere!


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From: [e-mail] (Lance Halle)
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Subject: Re: What do you think of the KPC-9612 TNC ?
Date: 14 Dec 1995 03:37:09 GMT
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In article <4amkpc$[e-mail]>,
   [e-mail] (Damien Dixsaut) wrote:
>
>   I'm looking for someone who uses or has used a KPC-9612 TNC
>(9600 / 1200 bds dual port TNC) from Kantronics. I would like to
>know your opinion about it, particulary on the following points :
>
>   -Does it work well with those "9600 ready" radios like my kenwood
>    TM-255 ok TM-733 ?
>   -Is it a true G3RUH on the 9600 bds port ?
>   -What is the transfert rate (in cps) I can exect at 9600 bds ?

        I've used a 9612 for over a year without a single problem. I am using
a Motorola MVP for the VHF radio (1200) and a Yaesu FT5100 on the 9600 side.
We don't have much 9600 here, but what there is seems to work fine.     The
TNC and radio are on 24hr/day and there hasn't been a single glitch

Lance Halle
KC7FVX


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From: jkbe@zeus (John Bednar)
Subject: Re: What do you think of the KPC-9612 TNC ?
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Damien Dixsaut ([e-mail]) wrote:
:       Hi everyone,

:    I'm looking for someone who uses or has used a KPC-9612 TNC
: (9600 / 1200 bds dual port TNC) from Kantronics. I would like to
: know your opinion about it, particulary on the following points :

:    -Is it a true G3RUH on the 9600 bds port ?

No. When I switched to the KPC9612 from a true G3RUH I did notice that
some of the weaker stations could no longer be received. This was
confirmed by others in our area that made the switch. It works
well with our 9600 bps node which is a true G3RUH. You might
be asking why we switched. The price is reasonable, we replace
two TNC's (9600 & 1200) with one, both ports share the same
mailbox, the user firmware is a grade above the
the others, the schematics are readable, and the documentation
is good. We are using the other G3RUH TNC's for nodes. If any
new person wants a 9600 bps TNC, I recommend the KPC 9612 over the
others. We use them with the TEKK data radio's.

John, WB3ESS


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From: [e-mail] (Lee Allen)
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Subject: Re: What do you think of the KPC-9612 TNC ?
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In article <4amkpc$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] says...
>
>        Hi everyone,
>
>   I'm looking for someone who uses or has used a KPC-9612 TNC
>(9600 / 1200 bds dual port TNC) from Kantronics. I would like to
>know your opinion about it, particulary on the following points :
>
>   -Does it work well with those "9600 ready" radios like my kenwood
>    TM-255 ok TM-733 ?
>   -Is it a true G3RUH on the 9600 bds port ?
>   -What is the transfert rate (in cps) I can exect at 9600 bds ?
>
>   Any comment about this TNC greatly appreciated !
>
>
>           73 de Damien, F1LQJ in Paris, France
>
>e-mail: [e-mail]
>packet: [e-mail]


I have a 9612 running now at 9600 and it is great. I am using the
Kenwood 733 for UHF and Kenwood 251 for VHF. I installed the K-NET chip
from Kantronics to make it a T-NET type node. It is set up on our
network here in Oklahoma City as a UHF backbone to VHF TEX-NET site.
Another ham 3 miles from me runs 2 9612 as I do with VHF outlets to
145.01 and 145.07. I very much recommend one and the best price is at
Oklahoma Comm Center  1-800-7OK-HAMS  They also ship for FREE.
Hope this answered your questions. Buy the way, I tryed Icom radios and
found them to be a FLOP on 9600..Stick to Kenwood or TEK...73
Lee N5KXI



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From: [e-mail] (Bob Smith)
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KPC 9612's are not allowed on our Packet Cluster.  The ops says even further
that if they find out you have one they will cut you off.

They recommend true G3RUH's from Paccomm or MFJ.

--
Bob Smith, Atlanta, GA
[e-mail]
TAPR 5412  ARRL



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>In article <4auvmr$[e-mail]>, Bob Smith <[e-mail]> wrote:
>
>KPC 9612's are not allowed on our Packet Cluster.  The ops says even further
>that if they find out you have one they will cut you off.

Why?



--
  +=================================+===================================+
  |Christopher K. Greenhalgh, N8WCT |[e-mail] |
  |Electronic/Computer Tech. @ OSU  |radio: n8wct@w8cqk.#cmh.oh.usa.noam|
  +=================================+===================================+


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Sounds like a good way to promote packet and get people
interested in developing a network!!!


73 Hank



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[e-mail] (Bob Smith) wrote:
>KPC 9612's are not allowed on our Packet Cluster.  The ops says even further
>that if they find out you have one they will cut you off.
>
>They recommend true G3RUH's from Paccomm or MFJ.
>
>--
>Bob Smith, Atlanta, GA
>[e-mail]
>TAPR 5412  ARRL
>
Sounds like a good way to promote packet and get support of the
amateur community to develop a network. I get sick and tired of
the attutude that it is going to be my way or no way. These
issues need to be worked out instead of cutting people off.

73 Hank WA5JRH



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From: [e-mail] (Christopher K Greenhalgh)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc,rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: What do you think of the KPC-9612 TNC ?
Date: 16 Dec 1995 21:12:37 GMT
Organization: The Ohio State University
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In article <4auvmr$[e-mail]>, Bob Smith <[e-mail]> wrote:

>KPC 9612's are not allowed on our Packet Cluster.  The ops says even further
>that if they find out you have one they will cut you off.

--
  +=================================+===================================+
  |Christopher K. Greenhalgh, N8WCT |[e-mail] |
  |Electronic/Computer Tech. @ OSU  |radio: n8wct@w8cqk.#cmh.oh.usa.noam|
  +=================================+===================================+


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From: [e-mail] (Karl Beckman)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: What radars on 900 MHz ?
Date: Wed, 13 Dec 1995 13:08:06 -0500
Organization: Motorola RNSG - Pvt Data
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In article <4akggi$s2o$[e-mail]>, Hans Brakob
<[e-mail]> wrote:

> >You might want to send a certified letter to San Diego Gas & Electri
> >and the closest remaining FCC Field Enforcement Office advising them
> >you believe that SDGE is causing destructive interference to a licen
> >Part 97 radio system, with copies to FCC Gettysburg and ARRL HQ.
>
> Since we have a secondary allocation in that band, by definition we
> have no protection and must accept any interference that occurs
> from other users.
>
> --
> - - - "Any sufficiently advanced technology is
>       indistiguishable from magic."  A.C.Clarke
> - - - Have you performed any radio magic
>       this week?

Actually we only have to accept interference from primary users (HIGHER
priority levels than ours), in this case the U S Govt.  Amateurs are still
entitled to relief from interference originating from co-secondary and
NON-licensed systems such as the Part 15 stuff.  That point was very
specifically addressed in the FCC actions earlier this year.

--
Karl Beckman, P.E.                <      If our English language is so   >
Motorola Pvt Data Systems         <   precise, why do you drive on the   >
Schaumburg, IL  /  Parma, OH      <   parkway and park on the driveway?  >
[phone] / [phone]
**  Schaumburg area code changes from 708 to 847 on January 20, 1996!   **
**  Opinions expressed here do not represent the views of Motorola Inc. **
--
By sending unsolicited commercially-oriented e-mail to this address, the
sender agrees to pay a $100 fee to the recipient for proofreading services.
--
Amateur radio WA8NVW                        NavyMARS NNN0VBH @ NOGBN.NOASI


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From: Zack Lau <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Why Morse Code Today?
Date: Wed, 13 Dec 1995 15:46:41 -0800
Organization: American Radio Relay League
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WA3SLE wrote:
> Amen to both of these ideas.  After 23 years of hamming, CW is still a
> blast.  sure its nice to have a laid-back QSO on SSB or FM, but ;lTtheres
> just a lot more fun and challenge pulling a CW contact out of a mess of
> QRM.  Not only that, but when I got my first license, it was easy fotr
> the average youngster with a papreboy income to get started in ham
> radio.  My first shack only cost me $100.  Try to get started that cheap
> in any other mode!!!  These days, the cheapest entry seems to be via 2

How about 10 GHz WBFM?  I've heard of people visiting people who
service burglar alarms and getting a whole bunch of 10 GHz Gunn
diode oscillator/mixers for free (as part of broken motion sensors).
For low cost receive, you can hook up an FM broadcast receiver.  For
transmit, you can power the Gunn diode with LM317T regulator that is
modulated with audio.  Not recommended for use on New England mountaintops
where you can see FM broadcast transmitters, but enough to have lots of fun.

> meter FM with an HT.  Nothing against 2 meters, but hey...ya can't work
> any DX.  You can't talk to any one half way across the country.  For me
> that's a big part of the enjoyment of Ham Radio.  2 meters is great for
> getting to know all the local hams, though.

Why can't you work DX on 2 meters?
Don't W5UN and KB8RQ have DXCC on 2 meters?
How did they manage that without working any DX?

Zack KH6CP/1  [e-mail]
Who thinks that 300 miles on 10 GHz counts as DX


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From: [e-mail] (Geoff  Barrett)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: WTB TNC
Date: 15 Dec 1995 13:23:45 GMT
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I am looking for a TNC something along the lines of a TNC-2 or TNC-3
details directly to this board

Geoff VE3WP


--


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From: rew5808 <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.swap,rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.shortwave
Subject: WTB:  heathkit, lafayette, allied catalogs
Date: 15 Dec 1995 05:00:36 GMT
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looking to byt heathkit, allied electronics, lafayette catalogs from 1955
thru 1965.  if you have any laying around, please let me know.

bobby wb5wur



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Subject: Re: REQUEST INFO - Oklahoma Comm Center
Date: 16 Dec 1995 00:32:23 GMT
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I purchased a Yeasu FT-840 from them and have been very pleased with the
radio and their response to my needs.



From Unknown Thu Dec 21 20:34:49 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Doug Faunt N6TQS [phone])
Subject: Re: "GRRReat"! ARRL chutzpah
In-Reply-To: [e-mail]'s message of 17 Dec 1995 21:18:04 GMT
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Sender: [e-mail]
Organization: at home, in Oakland
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I happen to like having bills with 4 months to pay.  If I'm short this
quarter, I can budget it in next quarter.
73, doug


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From: [e-mail] (Tony)
Subject: Looking for VS6 & VR2 station....
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Want to make friend to all VS6 and VR2 stations in HK. Please E-mail
to Tony. (      [e-mail]      )



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From: [e-mail] (Doug Faunt N6TQS [phone])
Subject: Re: GRRR! ARRL chutzpah
In-Reply-To: Dave Hockaday's message of 21 Dec 1995 13:59:18 GMT
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Sender: [e-mail]
Organization: at home, in Oakland
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        <4b21lf$[e-mail]> <4b6cu7$[e-mail]>
        <4bbp7m$[e-mail]>
Date: Thu, 21 Dec 1995 16:45:17 GMT
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It turns out, you can subscribe to QEX for more than a year at a time.
I currently have more than 9 years left before I need to renew.
73, doug


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From: [e-mail] (Don Breazile)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: program info ft-23r
Date: 17 Dec 1995 15:45:06 GMT
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a friend just bought a yaesu ft-23r and it did not come with a manual. he
needs the info to program tones. can you help with this info?
thanks and 73 Don



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From: "Mr. Steven Blaber" <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: out of mexico
Date: Mon, 18 Dec 1995 22:04:48 -0600
Organization: Lockheed-Martin Aerospace
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I am a missionary going into interior of Mexico.  could anyone pls
recommend...radio, antenna, freq. for reliable emerg.& rec. comm. What
would you us and how.  Thanks in advance from a very new kid on the
bolck.


From Unknown Thu Dec 21 20:34:54 1995
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From: "Joseph P. Feehan" <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Windows packet program?
Date: 20 Dec 1995 01:21:13 GMT
Organization: IKEEPMYOWN
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If you have an AEA PK-232 use ther Windows-based PcPakrat program
2.0 -- it works very well, does everything except cook breakfast!
73, VP2VBL.



From Unknown Thu Dec 21 20:34:55 1995
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From: [e-mail]
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: MSG for KE6VWO
Date: 20 Dec 1995 22:30:07 GMT
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Kory
Saw your name in the followup to the ham store discussion and had to let you k
now that
my son (age 19) is also a ham (KC6INH) and named Kory. I picked the spelling t
o match
his initials with his dad's.
BettyAnn, KC6ING


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From: Mike Hatzakis <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Packet on an Icom IC2AT ??
Date: 20 Dec 1995 14:53:07 GMT
Organization: Jefferson University
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Message-ID: <4b980k$rtm$[e-mail]>

I have an icom 2AT and no other base/mobile radio in shack and
have on ald Kantronics packet communicator.  Can I rig up the 2AT
for packet by using the mic input and PTT and audio out...?   Has
anyone tried this.. ?

Thanks, Mike WB2TBQ


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From: "Joseph P. Feehan" <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: WWV - Boulder, Co.
Date: 21 Dec 1995 02:14:00 GMT
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To: [e-mail]

Rob,
         Many thanks for your info.  Soon as I send this I'm
gonna switch.

         73, and Happy Holidays.  VP2VBL



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From: [e-mail] (jeff wright)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Windows packet program?
Date: 17 Dec 1995 22:58:49 GMT
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I am new to packet and am looking for a Windows packet program.  Does
anyone know if there is one available?

I am using a DOS based one now, and it is lacking.

jeff wright
kc5nez


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From: [e-mail]
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Hamfests in Richmond, Va area?
Date: 17 Dec 1995 19:44:39 -0500
Organization: Virginia Commonwealth University
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I would like to know of any hamfests happening in the Richmond,
Va area.  I'm looking for used satellite equipment in
particular.

Thanks

Ben


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From: [e-mail] (RHG12834)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Need Help with call signs
Date: 18 Dec 1995 06:59:18 -0500
Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364)
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I live in China most of the time and when I was there I picked up some
hams on my radio receiver. I wanted to write them to find out what kind of
equipment there are using.

The call signs are KA3CZY, BV2FI, VS6WO, VS6BG, JH5FXP, JA3ZOH, and
JA7BXS.



From Unknown Thu Dec 21 20:35:00 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Mark Langenfeld)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: 49 mHz
Date: 19 Dec 1995 21:33:25 GMT
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I seem to recall reading something some time ago about some experimenters
playing with QRP DX'ing in the 49 mHz Part 15 allocation. I think there
was even a newsletter being published on the subject.

Does this ring a bell with anyone?

Mark  --  WA9ETW


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From: [e-mail] (KF2TI)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: no-code=no-brain
Date: 19 Dec 1995 14:11:59 -0500
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In article <4b6cpd$[e-mail]>,
[e-mail] (Michael P. Deignan) writes:

>If you can find time to pick up the microphone and yak on 2 meters,
>or bitch and whine in r.r.a.m/p, you have the time to make one or two
>CW contacts during the day.



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From: Mike Hatzakis <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Advice on Good Packet/Logging Pgms
Date: 19 Dec 1995 16:50:55 GMT
Organization: Jefferson University
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Any suggestions on good programs for logging and packet control
preferably in windows.  Also be great to have a shareware copy or
evaluation,

Thanks, Mike

WB2TBQ, Mike [e-mail]


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From: Thomas Martin <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Satellit-Tracking STSPLUS
Date: 16 Dec 1995 02:39:21 GMT
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You should be able to find what you need at:

http://hamster.business.uwo.ca/~amsoft/


Tommy Martin (N5ZNO)
[e-mail]



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From: [e-mail] (Alan Gollom)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.policy,rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: The true Santa.
Date: 19 Dec 1995 03:24:56 GMT
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In article <4b102n$[e-mail]>, Burt Fisher <[e-mail]> says:

>A Politically Correct Merry
>...

Biting satire and very funny.  Unfortunately a little too close to the truth!

Alan VE3XAG


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From: [e-mail] (LUIS JOSE LEAL MARTINS)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: ALINCO DR-150
Date: 19 Dec 1995 10:25:32 GMT
Organization: Instituto Superior Tecnico
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        I'm thinking about buying an ALINCO DR-150 and I wonder if anyone have
had any experience  with it.
        I would apreciate any coments.

Tnx in advance.
73 Happy Xmas,
Luis Martins



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From: [e-mail] (Bob Molloy)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Strange RFI
Date: Wed, 20 Dec 95 11:28:23 GMT
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I am trying to nail down a source of RFI that I hear on 3990KHz early in the m
orning local time.
 I get a loud (20db over S9) noise that lasts for 30 seconds. After 2 mins. 10
 secs. it starts again. The
noise seems to stop at sunrise, although this may only be that it's being cove
red by strong signals when
the band opens. The noise seems to be coming thru the antenna since I can also
 hear it on a battery
operated receiver.

Does anyone have any idea what might be causing this noise or operating on thi
s cycle?



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From: [e-mail]
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Info-Hams Digest V95 #1166
Date: 20 Dec 95 15:08:17 GMT
Organization: ucsd usenet gateway
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In a message dated 95-12-20 00:13:14 EST, you write:

>From: Mike Hatzakis <[e-mail]>
>Subject: Advice on Good Packet/Logging Pgms

Depending on the TNC you have...try AEA's PcPakratt II for windows.
I am very satisfied with their product.
73 Tom/N3PGG


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From: [e-mail] (Cecil A. Moore~)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: no-code=no-brain
Date: 21 Dec 1995 18:04:36 GMT
Organization: Intel Corporation, Chandler, AZ
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NNTP-Posting-Host: vegas.ch.intel.com

In article <4b7lml$[e-mail]>,
Mark A. Downing <[e-mail]> wrote:

>One or two 20 minute sessions a day should not be too difficult for anyone.

I know a guy who did that for 30 years and never passed 13wpm.

73, Cecil, KG7BK, OOTC  (not speaking for my employer)


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From: [e-mail] (Bob Smith)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc,rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: What do you think of the KPC-9612 TNC ?
Date: 17 Dec 1995 20:01:18 GMT
Organization: InternetMCI
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Why?

Becuase they say from their 13 years experience that 9612s are not true G3RUH
standards and suffer for it by very bad throughput.
--
Bob Smith, Atlanta, GA
[e-mail]
TAPR 5412  ARRL



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From: [e-mail] (Ed Wyspianski)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: WTD: Ramsey Multitester schematic/manual
Date: 18 Dec 1995 22:10:43 GMT
Organization: Pegasus Software & Imaging
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I am looking for a schematic or tech manual for my Ramsey Digital
Multitester Model D-2100. I contacted Ramsey Electronics and they no
longer stock the manual. Photocopy okay.

Please reply to [e-mail]

Thanks.




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From: [e-mail]
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Info-Hams Digest V95 #1166
Date: 20 Dec 95 15:08:12 GMT
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In a message dated 95-12-20 00:13:14 EST, you write:

>From: [e-mail] (GEORGE R. COONEY)
>Subject: 80 mtr light-up

1.  Make sure his system is thoroughly grounded.
2.  Install a Low Pass Filter
3.  Good Luck
73 Tom/N3PGG


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From: [e-mail]
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: HELP!! Need Schematics for Repeater
Date: 21 Dec 1995 18:49:26 GMT
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Apparently the company that manufacturered our local club repeater has gone be
lly up and we need schematics and
any other info that can be obtained as backup.  If anyone has info regarding s
chematics, sources for on FTP sites, etc., please contact me at my e-mail addr
ess ([e-mail]).  Your responses are greatly appreciated.

The company was:  Advanced Computer Controls
2356 Walsh Av., Santa Clara, CA  95051

We need info for a RC-85 repeater controller.  If you need more specifics than
 this let me know.

73, BettyAnn (KC6ING)


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From: [e-mail] (GEORGE R. COONEY)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: 80 mtr light-up
Date: 19 Dec 1995 03:17:06 GMT
Organization: Arizona State University
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My friend put up an 80 meter dipole and now his neighbor's touch
lamp lights when he transmits. Has anyone solved a problem like
this? If you have a fix for the problem, please Email. Thanks

KQ7C

--
Merry Christmas and Happy New Year
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


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From: Arthur Booten <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Net Control Form
Date: Tue, 19 Dec 1995 09:45:38
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The following is a form I originally devised for New York City
Amateur Radio Emergency Service, but could easily be adapted for
other HF or VHF nets.  Enjoy.

********************************************************************


Mr. Arte Booten
([e-mail])  OR  ([e-mail])



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From: [e-mail] (Bob Smith)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc,rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: What do you think of the KPC-9612 TNC ?
Date: 19 Dec 1995 19:25:41 GMT
Organization: InternetMCI
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>>13 years of experience with the 9612?  Or with G3RUH standards?
>>I don't think so...

That's combined experience

--
Bob Smith, Atlanta, GA
[e-mail]
TAPR 5412  ARRL



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From: Mike Hatzakis <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Kantronics Packet comm Problems
Date: 20 Dec 1995 14:55:33 GMT
Organization: Jefferson University
Lines: 10
Message-ID: <4b9855$rtm$[e-mail]>

 I have one of the original Kantronics Packet communicaotrs and
can't seem to figure it out.  I want to just monitor packet
activity first before I wire up my radio.  I have already hooked
up the audio out to the audio in of the packet communicator and
have the link from computer to packet working.  I am not able to
get the thing to go into minitor mode to see if it can pick up
pacets going by.  I hear them onthe audio and I can see the RECV
light go on....  Tried COMM mode and tried TRANSP mode...

Any ideas, Mike WB2TBQ


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From: [e-mail] (Jason Rossi)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: morse code tranier
Date: 20 Dec 1995 15:22:45 GMT
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if you want a realy good morse code tranier look under   oak.oakland.edu
the software is called super morse... it help me memberized all of the
letters and the numbers when i don't have to use them until i get a
licenes....  i hope this helps you out!!!!

[e-mail]  my destination is alpha if you need that!!

laterz


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From: [e-mail] (Bob Baker)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: South Carolina CW
Date: Sun, 17 Dec 95 02:19:50 GMT
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I'm looking for cw contact on 20 meters from SC.  Would like to
finish up my WAS that I have put off for 25 years. Would like a
contact on 14.050 + - 10 somewhere around 0100 zulu.

Would appreciate an email for a sked.

Thanks.

Bob   WA6MCT
[e-mail]


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From: [e-mail] (Bob Smith)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc,rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: What do you think of the KPC-9612 TNC ?
Date: 17 Dec 1995 20:03:00 GMT
Organization: InternetMCI
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>>>I get sick and tired of the attutude that it is going to be my way or no wa
y.
These issues need to be worked out instead of cutting people off.

Can't say I disagree with you Hank.

--
Bob Smith, Atlanta, GA
[e-mail]
TAPR 5412  ARRL



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From: [e-mail] (Matthew Edward Mills)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: FOR SALE:  FCC General Radiotelephone License Home Study Course.
Date: 16 Dec 1995 02:02:32 GMT
Organization: University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
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For sale:  Complete FCC home study course from Command Productions.

The course includes a booklet and audio cassette tapes of all questions
and answers for FCC test elements 1, 3, and 8.

paid $170.00

sell for $75.00

please email if interested



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From: [e-mail] (Joe Buch)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Spread-Spectrum questions
Date: Mon, 18 Dec 1995 23:56:04 GMT
Organization: Exchange Information Systems Networks
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[e-mail](Tom Roman ) wrote:

I wish I had said that.  Great response to a not well
understood concept.  Nice going. 73

~*-.,_,.-*~'^'~*-.,_,.-*~'^'~*-.,_,.-*~'
Joe Buch N2JB
Editor, NASWA Journal Technical Topics
[e-mail]
-*~'^'~*-.,_,.-*~'^'~*-.,_,.-*~'^'~*-.,_



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From: [e-mail] (andy)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Hamfests in Richmond, Va area?
Date: 19 Dec 1995 00:14:03 GMT
Organization: clark.net
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[e-mail] wrote:
: I would like to know of any hamfests happening in the Richmond,
: Va area.  I'm looking for used satellite equipment in
: particular.

There's a major, annual hamfest, called the Richmond Frostfest coming up
in January. I didn't get my flier yet, so I can't give you the exact
date. Maybe someone with a January QST can look it up.

andy



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From: [e-mail] (Gary Snow)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: 3.88 MHz sounded like CB tonight.  Yuck
Date: Tue, 19 Dec 1995 16:22:04 -0800
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In article <30d02758.222421423@192.80.84.4>, [e-mail] wrote:

> Are you still complaining about those no-code extras?

No code EXTRA??

Gary
---
[e-mail]   <-----====()====----->   http://www.pacifier.com/~gsnow/
Vancouver, WA's  On-Ramp  to  the  Information  SuperHighway   [phone]
telnet to "pods.pacifier.com" (press return 2x) or dial the above to register


From Unknown Thu Dec 21 20:35:23 1995
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From: "Joseph P. Feehan" <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: HELP: slash through zero font
Date: 21 Dec 1995 09:18:11 GMT
Organization: IKEEPMYOWN
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[e-mail] (Tom Levendusky Jr.) wrote:
>Does anybody know what font has the slash through the zero?
>
>Thanks
>Tom N0MWY
>

I found it in fonts "Souvenir" and "SymbolProp" using the
Character Map feature of Windows 3.1.  I know it's in at least
one other font that I've seen. VP2VBL



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From: "Dr. Malcolm A. Williamson" <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: (no subject)
Date: 17 Dec 1995 14:43:04 GMT
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Can anyone tell me where I would find the software called "World Radio"
which is for Kenwood equipment for the Macintosh?  It's supposed to be
located at Demons ftp site but isn't!

Any suggestions?

Regards

Malc
G0EGA




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From: Arthur Booten <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: NY State Emergency Management Office Std. Message Form
Date: Tue, 19 Dec 1995 09:46:49
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The following is an ASCII facsimile of New York State's Office of
Emergency Management Standard Message Form.  I originally made it
for use by New York City Radio Amateur Civil Emergency Service, but
it's applicable throughout the state by RACES personnel (in
triplicate, of course!)  Enjoy.

********************************************************************


Mr. Arte Booten
([e-mail])  OR  ([e-mail])



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From: [e-mail] (Terry Hubbard)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Super Cmos Keyer
Date: 19 Dec 1995 14:40:48 -0600
Organization: Exec-PC
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Can someone provide the address or phone number to order the super cmos
keyer kit. It's either version II or III but I'm not sure which is
correct or the most current. Thanks in advance.




--
-----
Terry Hubbard                  Internet:[e-mail]
Cudahy, WI                     Compuserve: 75347,2614



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From: "Anthony R. Gold" <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Can a Green Card holder be a ham?
Date: Wed, 20 Dec 95 10:15:00 GMT
Organization: Microvest Limited, London
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In article <4b82ne$[e-mail]> [e-mail] "David R Tucker" writes:

> (P.S. does the FCC care quite so much, either?)

I believe that many of these rules have a life of their own and only serve
the function of being food for the Question Pool in the written Parts.

Regards,
--
   Tony - G3SKR / AA2PM                  email: [e-mail]
                                                [e-mail]
                                        packet: g3skr@n0ary.#nocal.ca.usa.na


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Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: FCC shutdown
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Hello Eric,

Greetings from Tortola Island, British Virgin Islands.

Don't see anything wrong with your idea -- in fact it has a lot
of plusses.  Remember tho, when cycle 22 is over, 10 will be hot
with 1 watt.  So what, you say!  That's what I say -- let them
have a taste of DX.

Been licensed 50 years, am a brass pounder, USA call is KP2BL.

73, Joe, VP2VBL.



From Unknown Thu Dec 21 20:35:28 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Michael P. Deignan)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: No-Code = Affirmative Action
Date: 17 Dec 1995 20:36:33 -0500
Organization: Ideamation, Inc.
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NNTP-Posting-Host: anomaly.ideamation.com

In article <4atlg8$[e-mail]>,
        Stephan Rashkin <[e-mail]> wrote:

[description deleted]

Didn't you forget the "6 figure income, BNW, $500,000 house, and
racing semi-pro on weekends" ? :-)

MD
--
--
-- "Who needs looks when you've got taste?"
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From Unknown Thu Dec 21 20:35:29 1995
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From: "David E. Shelton" <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Windows packet program?
Date: 19 Dec 1995 06:59:07 GMT
Organization: University of Louisville, School of Nursing
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To: Window,Packet,Program

There are several windows based packet programs out there that are good
some much better than others. The best I have seen is the Winpack, it
works great and has several advanced features like 7plus compression and
automated message retrieval. It is freeware and can be downloaded from
Compuserve's Hamnet forum and several ftp sites.

73,

de KE4FPS, David

[e-mail]




From Unknown Thu Dec 21 20:35:30 1995
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From: "David E. Shelton" <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Windows packet program?
Date: 19 Dec 1995 07:00:37 GMT
Organization: University of Louisville, School of Nursing
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To: Window,Packet,Program

There are several windows based packet programs out there that are good
some much better than others. The best I have seen is the Winpack, it
works great and has several advanced features like 7plus compression and
automated message retrieval. It is freeware and can be downloaded from
Compuserve's Hamnet forum and several ftp sites.

73,

de KE4FPS, David

[e-mail]




From Unknown Thu Dec 21 20:35:32 1995
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From: [e-mail]
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: pager feature in HT's... and  what is IPARN?
Date: Tue, 19 Dec 1995 19:38:40 GMT
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Hello...
I have been a HAM for only less than a year. I have been playing
around with my HT and have tried to understanding all the features in
my IC-W31A. There is one thing I don't understand is the pager
feature. How does it work? and what does it do?

and one more thing (aside from the feature) what is this thing called
IPARN?

73 de sherwin ke6tiu (will be getting my Canadian call soon)





From Unknown Thu Dec 21 20:35:32 1995
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From: Hans Brakob <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: HELP: slash through zero font
Date: 21 Dec 1995 18:04:26 GMT
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>Does anybody know what font has the slash through the zero?<

If you're talking about Windows, almost all of them have
it.  Hold down the <alt> key, and type "0216" (without
quotes) on the number pad.

73, de Hans, K0HB

--
- - - "Any sufficiently advanced technology is
      indistiguishable from magic."  A.C.Clarke
- - - Have you performed any radio magic
      this week?


From Unknown Thu Dec 21 20:35:33 1995
Newsgroups: alt.org.team-os2,rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.misc
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From: [e-mail] (David Feustel)
Subject: Radio Cards?
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I'm looking for an IBM pc compatible shortwave (and/or wideband) radio
card that I can run with os/2. I'd like to be able to turn the radio
on/off at specified times and also to be able to set the frequency and
receive mode (am, (wide/narrow) fm, lsb, usb, etc).

I also would like to be able to save to disk the digitized audio output
from the radio.

Does anything like this exist?
--
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From Unknown Thu Dec 21 20:35:35 1995
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From: [e-mail] (LAURIE)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: tait t520 help
Date: Wed, 20 Dec 1995 03:28:14 GMT
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hi all
anybody done work with a tait t520 that uses a multi channel
swithching unit it comprises of 2 x bcd's feeding  the board where the
diode matrix board was
the 2 chips {14/16 devices forgot which} are missing hence i cant
dissasemble the chips for the programme
A:have you got any info on the chips
b:have you got any info on the programme that goes into these chips

i believe that they are ttl proms ie as used in the mx290 series etc
any help much app
73's de laurie    [e-mail]




From Unknown Thu Dec 21 20:35:36 1995
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From: "Joseph P. Feehan" <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: WWV - Boulder, Co.
Date: 21 Dec 1995 02:10:18 GMT
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Hi Ron,
     Greetings from Tortola Island, British Virgin Islands.

    Sorry about Fort Collins.  Now that you mention it, I do
remember, from my dim past in the USA, the voice announcement.

    Can't hear WWV very well here, most of the locals use CHU.
However, a 1000' hill is immediately between me and WWV!

    I'm going to plead "nolo" on the Boulder Gaffe; I'm an old
timer with a fading memory.

                        73, and Happy Holidays. VP2VBL  & KP2BL



From Unknown Thu Dec 21 20:35:36 1995
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From: Paul O'Kane EI5DI <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: I am looking for a good Ham Radio FTP Site!!!!
Date: 17 Dec 1995 23:10:09 GMT
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If anyone needs PC contest logging software, you might try
ftp.iol.ie.

The files are  sd.zip    HF contests (Super-Duper)
               sdi.zip   IOTA contest (Islands On The Air)
               sdv.zip   VHF contests

They are in directory /users/okanep

They're also available from http://www.iol.ie/~okanep/

73,
Paul EI5DI



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From: [e-mail] (Christian Buenger)
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Subject: Re: Ham related mailing lists?
Date: Tue, 19 Dec 1995 19:46:00 +0000
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>     There is a VHF/UHF reflector that is geared pimarily to SSB/CW weak
>signal.  No FM, repeaters or satellites are discussed there.  The address is:

Hello Dennis!

Thank you very much for the information!

73 de Christian, DL6KAC


InterNet: [e-mail]
          [e-mail]

## CrossPoint v3.1 ##


From Unknown Thu Dec 21 20:35:38 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Jerry B Altzman)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: GRRR! ARRL chutzpah
Date: 17 Dec 1995 21:21:51 GMT
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In article <4aqs78$[e-mail]>, Wayne Jones  <wjones.hgea.org> wrote:
>Granted, the wording isn't exactly what I would use, but have you checked
>out the renewal requests from some of the other magazines?  I sometimes
>get them up to six months before my subscriptions expire.  If you don't
>subscribe to another magazine, ask your wife!  I am sure she has seen the
>same pattern.

Sigh. Everyone else jumping off the Empire State Building still wouldn't
compel me to do so.

>Wayne, NH6GJ

//jbaltz
jerry b. altzman   Entropy just isn't what it used to be      [phone]
[e-mail]   [e-mail]  KE3ML  (HEPNET) NEVIS::jbaltz


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From: [e-mail] (Michael Crestohl)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.policy
Subject: VANITY CALLSIGN PGM - UPDATE PLEASE?????
Date: 18 Dec 1995 11:10:50 -0500
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A friend told me the other day he received his FCC-601-V form from the
ARRL.

Has the FCC announced the dates for the "gates" to open?

73,

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From Unknown Thu Dec 21 20:35:41 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Rob Janssen)
Subject: Re: What do you think of the KPC-9612 TNC ?
Reply-To: [e-mail]
Organization: PE1CHL
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <4amkpc$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]> <4auvmr$[e-mail]> <4avco5$[e-mail]> <4avdp4$[e-mail]> <4b1sue$[e-mail]>
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In <4b1sue$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Bob Smith) writes:

>Why?

>Becuase they say from their 13 years experience that 9612s are not true G3RUH

>standards and suffer for it by very bad throughput.

13 years of experience with the 9612?  Or with G3RUH standards?
I don't think so...

Rob
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From Unknown Thu Dec 21 20:35:42 1995
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From: [e-mail] (JonetteThornhill)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Does anyone know of a ham newsgroup?
Date: 18 Dec 1995 23:53:33 GMT
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This can't be a ham newsgroup. It is a back biting, bitching,
belly aching and soap boxing group.

A true ham newsgroup would be ready to assist any new or
potential ham to achieve better and greater things instead of
seeing how low they can be cut down.

Jonette Thornhill   [e-mail]
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Jonette Thornhill                                     ARS KC5EFJ
E-Mail ==> [e-mail]
Opinions expressed may not represent those of the author.
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From Unknown Thu Dec 21 20:35:43 1995
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From: William Chueh <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: **Cheap battary and antenna**
Date: Tue, 19 Dec 1995 14:04:53 -0800
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To Every ham:

        Exciting news, I found one company that
      carry battary at very low price .
      Kenwoord, Icom, Yaesu, Motorola. The
      company is MAHA COMMUNICATION. They are
      also looking for regional dealer. Contact
      them at 8183334497 in LA,CA. (They don't
      like a single quantity order, combine your
      club order for a special price, *Shipping
      free for club!). They also got TS (Taiwan
      Serene) Antenna, and ADI Radio!


                        William Chueh
                        [e-mail]


From Unknown Thu Dec 21 20:35:44 1995
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From: [e-mail]   (Phil Kane)
Subject: Re: VANITY CALLSIGN PGM - UPDATE PLEASE?????
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Sender: [e-mail]
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In <4b5ldk$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Jim Weir) writes:

>>Has the FCC announced the dates for the "gates" to open?

No.  The FCC is not/will not do much in the next few days......

>And also is there posted anywhere the final "rule" -- what
>combinations of prefixes are available (i.e. can we have not only the
>regular old W and K prefixes but the A and the N...), can a person
>living in 3-land apply for a 5-land call, and all the rest of it.  NOT
>HEARSAY, but the actual rules.

Actul rules are found in Section 97.19 ... available where fine
Rules are kept (IOW ... it's best to learn how to dig it out for
yourself if you want to be an informed ham...)



From Unknown Thu Dec 21 20:35:45 1995
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From: Dave Hockaday <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: rule of thumb??
Date: 17 Dec 1995 20:43:51 GMT
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>>Now, this is an extreme example
>
>Extreme example? I've got news for you: In my area, its the *rule*, not
>the exception.
>

Not in my area. In my experience, Advanced and Extras are more inclined
to get involved in technical tasks. While there are novices, techs, and
generals that are very technically oriented, I don't agree with the wave
of comments that techs rule the planet and are more technically capable.
I'm a VE, and I see loads of folks fold on the advanced tests as compared
to general, tech, and novice elements.

Dave Hockaday
[e-mail]



From Unknown Thu Dec 21 20:35:46 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Allan Butler)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc,rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: What do you think of the KPC-9612 TNC ?
Date: 18 Dec 1995 04:42:00 GMT
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In article <4auvmr$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] says...
>
>KPC 9612's are not allowed on our Packet Cluster.  The ops says even
further
>that if they find out you have one they will cut you off.
>
>They recommend true G3RUH's from Paccomm or MFJ.

        Why is this?  Can they point to a technical reason for it?  The
people in this area don't seem to have a problem with the 9612.

        Could you please give the reason for this position.


                                                Allan Butler KA0IES
                                                [e-mail]



From Unknown Thu Dec 21 20:35:47 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Jim Lowman)
Subject: Re: VANITY CALLSIGN PGM - UPDATE PLEASE?????
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
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Michael Crestohl ([e-mail]) wrote:
: A friend told me the other day he received his FCC-601-V form from the
: ARRL.

: Has the FCC announced the dates for the "gates" to open?

The forms are being sent out, but the actual date for the first gate has not
been announced.  The latest word is "early 1996" according to the latest
NEWSLINE announcement.

73...Jim

[e-mail]  |   Jim Lowman    * KF6CR*    San Bernardino, CA
Systems Analyst     |   San Bernardino City Unified School District
[phone] (O)  |   Unix:  "It isn't supposed to be easy...If it
[phone] (FAX)|   was, everyone would be doing it."  -Unknown-



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From: charles bolland <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.homebrew,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.packet,rec.radio.amateur.policy
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Friends

For those who have received the RADIO STATION DATABASE DEMO,I may have typed t
he unzip
instructions incorrectly.  They should read as follows if they don't:

    PKUNZIP.EXE DATABASE.ZIP C:\DEMO2

If you did not get a copy of the DEMO and would like one, send your EMAIL addr
ess and
I will return the Demo to you via EMAIL

Thanks

Chuck Bolland
KA4PRF





From Unknown Thu Dec 21 20:35:49 1995
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
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From: [e-mail] (Jerry Gardner)
Subject: Re: GRRR! ARRL chutzpah
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest)
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL1]
References: <4ao67e$[e-mail]> <4aqs78$[e-mail]>
Date: Wed, 20 Dec 1995 02:00:50 GMT
Lines: 16
Sender: [e-mail]

Wayne Jones (wjones.hgea.org) wrote:

: Granted, the wording isn't exactly what I would use, but have you checked
: out the renewal requests from some of the other magazines?  I sometimes
: get them up to six months before my subscriptions expire.  If you don't
: subscribe to another magazine, ask your wife!  I am sure she has seen the
: same pattern.


I subscribe to Velo News, a bicycle racing newspaper. My subscription
expires in May 1996. I've been getting renewal notices since last August.



--
Jerry Gardner          | Maintainer of the Large Format Digest
[e-mail]    | Send subscription requests to [e-mail]


From Unknown Thu Dec 21 20:35:50 1995
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From: Hilde Hofkens <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Belgian World Servie : Radio Vlaanderen Internationaal on-line
Date: Wed, 20 Dec 1995 10:32:59 +0100
Organization: iM@Gic
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Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
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Finally the day has come : the new Website of Radio Vlaanderen
Internationaal, BRTN's world service, is on line since December 1.  The
old Website was refurnished and contains a wealth of information on RVI,
its 50th anniversary, programmes, reception, International Listener's
Club and much more.  RVI also puts you on the way to a series of
interesting Websites.
Information on our Website is available in six languages : Dutch,
French, German, Enlish, Spanish and Arabic.

Shortly you will be able to read the RVI news on our Website, or listen
to it via Real Audio.

It is worth your while to call on
http://www.brtn.be/rvi/

For more information
[e-mail]


From Unknown Thu Dec 21 20:35:51 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Clay Irving)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Ham related mailing lists?
Date: 17 Dec 1995 13:07:49 -0500
Organization: PANIX Public Access Internet and Unix, NYC
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NNTP-Posting-Host: panix.com

In <4aths6$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Ken White) writes:

>Better yet...post those tips or lists on the NEWSGROUP. I and many other
>people would be interested in hearing about ham related mailing lists.
>Isn't that what NEWSGROUPS are for???

Check:

http://www.cc.columbia.edu/~fuat/cuarc/mailing-lists.html

for a list of ham-related mailing lists...

--
 See the happy moron,
 He doesn't give a damn,           Clay Irving, N2VKG ([e-mail])
 I wish I were a moron,            http://www.panix.com/clay
 My God! perhaps I am!


From Unknown Thu Dec 21 20:35:53 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Jay Huldeen)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: WWV - Boulder, Co.
Date: 20 Dec 1995 23:54:38 GMT
Organization: Internet Express (800-592-1240 customer service)
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Message-ID: <4ba7nu$[e-mail]>
References: <4b7uve$[e-mail]> <4ba4ri$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]>
NNTP-Posting-Host: earth.usa.net
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2]

charles copeland ([e-mail]) wrote:
: In article <4ba4ri$[e-mail]>, Ron Miller <[e-mail]> wrote:
: >Joseph P. Feehan ([e-mail]) wrote:

: >If you listen to the voice ID, you'll find that WWV transmits from
: >FT. COLLINS Colorado. Not the People's Republic of Boulder.

: Hmmm, TIMESET.EXE states NIST is in Boulder,CO. This is a program that
: calls the atomic clock and updates your PC clock via modem.

NIST and the big atomic clock are in Boulder, but the transmitter for WWV
is in Ft. Collins.  Two separate yet related operations.


--
Jay Huldeen
[e-mail]


From Unknown Thu Dec 21 20:35:53 1995
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From: [e-mail] (John Boyd)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur,rec.radio.amateur.swap,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.ham-radio,rec.ham-radio.swap
Subject: Re: REQUEST INFO - Oklahoma Comm Center
Date: Sat, 16 Dec 1995 01:21:29 GMT
Organization: (ICON) InterConnect Online, Inc.
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[e-mail] (Greg Kopp) wrote:

>Have you ever bought anything from Oklahoma Comm Center (1-800-765-HAMS)??

>I'm looking at buying a radio mail order from them. They are $30 cheaper
>than most other stores with free shipping and I'm not sure of thier
>reliability.

>e-mail to [e-mail] or [e-mail]

I LIVE in OKC, and I buy from them regularly.  For the most part
they're nice guys, and they seem to work hard to take care of their
customers.  I've made the same discovery, i.e., they're cheaper than
most of the other mail order places.  Give them a try, I don't think
you'll be disappointed.  Tell them KC5KBC/John gave them a thumb's up!

73!



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From: [e-mail] (tom crawford)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Info to aid in positioning photovoltaic collectors
Date: 19 Dec 1995 05:27:24 GMT
Organization: HyperK a Division of Scientech, Inc.
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Message-ID: <4b5ifs$[e-mail]>
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X-Newsreader: WinVN 0.92.6+

PASSIVE SOLAR DESIGN USING COMPUTER GENERATED SUNCHARTS

The sunchart is an interesting and useful solar energy design tool. Basically
it is a map of the sun's path across the sky during the year. It can be used a
s a basic solar energy design tool to aid solar designers in efficiently and e
asily designing and positionally optimizing solar collectors, solar electrical
 panels, passive solar homes, greenhouses, and other solar devices.

Optical Physics Technologies has placed an html article, "PASSIVE SOLAR DESIGN
 USING COMPUTER GENERATED SUNCHARTS," on the internet which provides informati
on in using suncharts in passive solar design.  It also provides a source of s
unchart generating software and other solar energy design tools.  This article
 can be found at:

      http://www.srv.net/~tm_crw4d/sunchrt.html

For those without Netscape access, send me an e-mail message, and I will e-mai
l basically the same information to you.  Unfortunately it won't have the same
 quality, but it should be useful.  You can e-mail me at:

        [e-mail]   (note - my server is case sensitive)

As a last resort, I can also snail-mail a booklet with the same information, b
ut I will need to recover my costs for postage, handling, and copying.  If you
 want a hard copy snail-mailed, send $6.00 to cover postage, handling, and cop
ying expenses.  If you are outside the USA, send $7.00 in US currency.  Send t
his request to:

       Optical Physics Technologies
       PO Box 51506
       Idaho Falls, ID  83405-1506
       USA


From Unknown Thu Dec 21 20:35:56 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Wayne B. Roberts)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.policy
Subject: Re: VANITY CALLSIGN PGM - UPDATE PLEASE?????
Date: Tue, 19 Dec 1995 15:55:44 GMT
Organization: InfiNet
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Message-ID: <4b6na8$[e-mail]>
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Reply-To: [e-mail]
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[e-mail] (Michael Crestohl) wrote:

>A friend told me the other day he received his FCC-601-V form from the
>ARRL.

>Has the FCC announced the dates for the "gates" to open?

>73,

The ARRL has sent out FCC=601-V forms, but the gates have not yet been
announced and are not expected to be announced earlier than 1Q96. The
forms cannot be mailed to the FCC until the opening dates in the
appropriate gates.

KO4NH
Wayne Roberts
Richmond, Virginia



From Unknown Thu Dec 21 20:35:57 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Jack Yazel)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: I am looking for a good Ham Radio FTP Site!!!!
Date: 17 Dec 1995 22:03:12 -0500
Organization: The Greater Columbus FreeNet
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X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2]

Ken Allen ([e-mail]) wrote:

: If you know of any good Ham Radio FTP sites, please let me know.
: The only one that I have is: "ftp.ucsd.edu"

: Thanks,

:       Les Goins -- K5HR
:       [e-mail]

  Try the following:

     wuarchive.wustl.edu
     ftp.cdrom.com
     oak.oakland.edu

            W8RAG



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From: Mark Oppenheim <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.swap,rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.misc,sci.electronics.repair,comp.sys.hp.hardware
Subject: Re: ******TEST/MEASUREMENT EQUIPMENT******
Date: 21 Dec 1995 21:07:46 GMT
Organization: Tetherless Access Ltd.
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[e-mail](LELAND A. NORVILLE ) wrote:
>
>
>    There is a new test and measurement equipment web site on the net
> from Compudigital Industries.
>
>                        http://www.compudigital.com
>
>    If you need test and measurement equipment, this is the place to
>check, a lot of pretty neat stuff.


Wow, yeah, there's something like *10* Items actually for sale.

Geez, I'm tired from all the browsing!  ;)





From Unknown Thu Dec 21 20:35:59 1995
Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!news.accessone.com!news
From: [e-mail] (Ed Mitchell)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Articles fo local ham newsletter
Date: 17 Dec 1995 22:59:19 GMT
Organization: Virtual Publishing Co.
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Message-ID: <4b27c7$[e-mail]>
References: <4akqin$[e-mail]>
NNTP-Posting-Host: vbook.accessone.com
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
X-Newsreader: WinVN 0.99.5

In article <4akqin$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] says..
.
>
>Hi,
>
>I'm the editor for a local ham newsletter herer in Madison, Wisc. USA.  I'm
>looking for good articles to pass on to 200+ hams in the area.  Informative
>and funny articles always appreciated.
>
>Thanks.
>
You are welcome to any of the feature stories on our web site,  Ham Radio
Online.  Its a free, international Amateur radio magazine.  We have a generous

reprint policy posted online - basically you get to print anything as long as
you say where you got it. You can visit the magazine on the Internet at
http://www.accessone.com/~vbook/hronline.htm.

Have fun and 73,
Ed Mitchell, KF7VY



From Unknown Thu Dec 21 20:36:00 1995
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From: [e-mail] (John Byrnes)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Does anyone know of a ham newsgroup?
Date: 19 Dec 1995 22:31:33 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Fort Collins Site
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Message-ID: <4b7eg5$[e-mail]>
References: <4b4utt$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]>
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NNTP-Posting-Host: hpfcjsb.fc.hp.com
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charles copeland ([e-mail]) wrote:
> In article <4b4utt$[e-mail]>,
> JonetteThornhill <[e-mail]> wrote:
> >
> >This can't be a ham newsgroup. It is a back biting, bitching,
> >belly aching and soap boxing group.
> >

> This is the internet. This is what it reduces people to.
> Anonyminity breeds this attitude.

Well said.  It doesn't matter what newsgroup you look at either.

Isn't it interesting (ie. scary as hell) that the media hypes the
Internet as "The Future" of communications?  The Information Superhighway
is overrun with bad drivers.

John  KB0UNC



From Unknown Thu Dec 21 20:36:01 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Dana Myers)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Funny celebrity ham encounter
Date: 19 Dec 1995 20:56:59 GMT
Organization: SunSoft South, Los Angeles, CA
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Message-ID: <4b78ur$[e-mail]>
NNTP-Posting-Host: sunspot.west.sun.com

Back in 1987, I (a) worked too hard and (b) didn't own a television,
so I had little idea of who the current TV celebs were.  One night
I was getting gas in my RZ350 in Westwood (part of Los Angeles), and
there was this very hot red 911SC on the other side of the pump.
The owner of the car came walking up, and my friend (who was
also getting gas in his bike) started exclaiming "That's Garry
Shandling!  That's Garry Shandling!".  Without really thinking,
I said something like "Settle down!  Who's Garry Shandling anyway?"

I really had no clue who Garry Shandling was at the time.

I found out a few years later that Garry is a ham... too bad I
didn't know that then and could have done the geeky "Hi Garry! Wow!
You're a ham and I'm a ham!! Wow!" bit.

--
 * Dana H. Myers KK6JQ, DoD#: j | Views expressed here are      *
 * [phone]               | mine and do not necessarily   *
 * [e-mail]      | reflect those of my employer  *


From Unknown Thu Dec 21 20:36:02 1995
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From: [e-mail] (James A Doty)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Hams who ignore "newbies"
Date: 17 Dec 1995 15:20:36 GMT
Organization: Clark College, Vancouver Wa.  USA
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[e-mail] wrote:

> What follows is a message from a guy that asked for your help. All you
> "helpful" hams ignored him. He did not like my answer but at least I
> paid him some attention

> Burt, K1OIK.

Newbie or not, I didn't have an answer for him so I didn't feel it
was a good idea to respond.  What's the point in telling him I didn't
know?

Once I heard that HAM is what the commercial stations used to call
amateur operators back when they were trying to get us off the air.
I have no proof though.

James A. Doty
KI7EL



From Unknown Thu Dec 21 20:36:03 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Are Barstad)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Contesting, ad nauseum
Date: 20 Dec 1995 16:28:17 GMT
Organization: Ministry of the Solicitor General & Correctional Services
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X-Newsreader: News Xpress Version 1.0 Beta #3

In article <4b90kb$[e-mail]>,
   Burt Fisher <[e-mail]> wrote:

>I never said it was easy, just pointless.

Let me get this straight Burt. Is contesting pointless period, or just
pointless in your opinion?

In MY opinion contesting is fun, exiting and challenging. It seem to me that
you like to devote most of your time putting down and "playing" with hams. In
MY opinion that is pointless! Whatever tickles your fancy I guess.

Just my opinion...

Merry Christmas,
VA3ARE - Are Barstad

------------------------------------------
My opinions are my own, not my employer's.


From Unknown Thu Dec 21 20:36:04 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Shawn Brown)
Subject: Re: no-code=no-brain
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest)
References: <[e-mail]> <4arqhr$[e-mail]> <4b0h9n$[e-mail]> <4b1i1r$[e-mail]>
Date: Thu, 21 Dec 1995 01:39:48 GMT
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Sender: [e-mail]

In article <4b1i1r$[e-mail]>,
Michael P. Deignan <[e-mail]> spewed:

>Interesting concept. You somehow had the "time" to get your Tech license.
>You somehow have the "time" to use your Tech license. But now when the
>issue shifts to "upgrading", you mysteriously no longer have the "time",
>with "school" being the convenient "out" for you. Typical welfare-state
>mentality justification for handouts.

What a pathetic knee-jerk response.  Your grasp of linear logic astounds
us all.

Yeah, I really want to upgrade so I can hang out with losers like yourself.

Shawn

--
Shawn Brown | [e-mail] | San Jose, CA | PGP public key by finger



From Unknown Thu Dec 21 20:36:05 1995
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From: [e-mail] (KD1ON)
Subject: Re: no-code=no-brain
Message-ID: <30d5607e.310929106@192.80.84.4>
Reply-To: [e-mail]
Organization: At home.
Date: Mon, 18 Dec 1995 12:46:15 GMT
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Lines: 20

In <4b20e1$[e-mail]>,
   [e-mail]  [Joshua W. Flood] <[e-mail]  [Joshua W. Flood]>
wrote:
(quoting M. Deignan)
|>Interesting concept. You somehow had the "time" to get your Tech license.
|>You somehow have the "time" to use your Tech license. But now when the
|>issue shifts to "upgrading", you mysteriously no longer have the "time",
|>with "school" being the convenient "out" for you. Typical welfare-state
|>mentality justification for handouts.
|
|I never said that I am looking for a handout. I just get sick of people looki
ng
|down upon me simply because I have not upgraded yet.

Don't worry about it.  You just somehow triggered a well known reflex
posting, which automatically and with no small leaps of logic manages to
bring in things like "welfare-state" bashing etc.  I wouldn't give it too
much weight.

(sorry if you see this twice - I've cancelled the previous version for bad
wording and reposted)


From Unknown Thu Dec 21 20:36:06 1995
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From: Glen AJenkins <wb4ktf@198.4.75.52>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Advice Plse: TS-690 vs TS-850
Date: 18 Dec 1995 03:43:23 GMT
Organization: Internet Online Services
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Message-ID: <4b2o0r$[e-mail]>
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To: [e-mail]

Greg:
I have a TS-690S without the antenna tuner.  I am very satisfied with its
performance.  The TS850 is already an old model.  My previous rig was a
TS430S, and it worked flawlesly for 10 years.  I used to work 6 meters in
the 70s and also wanted to get back on 6.  The band is now pretty dead,
and will likely stay dead until summer returns.I would think that the
TS850S is a better rig for HF than the TS690S is.  The 850 is a better
radio, just without 6 meters.  I do not think that you will be able to
find many 6 meter transverters around, either; so if you really want to
have 6 meter capability get a rig that has it or get  a separate one such
as an Alinco.  I have also heard a local ham with the new Icom OC-706
which has all HF bands, plus 6M and 2 M.  It sounded great, so why not
look at that one, too.  This should confuse you enough.

73s and good luck
Glen
e-mail at:

[e-mail]



From Unknown Thu Dec 21 20:36:07 1995
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From: [e-mail]   (Bill Newkirk)
Subject: Re: Windows packet program?
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Sender: [e-mail] (USENET NEWS SYSTEM)
Nntp-Posting-Host: netport-2.iu.net
Reply-To: [e-mail] (Bill Newkirk)
Organization: Space Coast Amateur Technical Group
X-Newsreader: IBM NewsReader/2 v1.2
References: <[e-mail]>
Date: Wed, 20 Dec 1995 02:03:38 GMT
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In <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (jeff wright)
 writes:
>I am new to packet and am looking for a Windows packet program.  Does
>anyone know if there is one available?

sure...Terminal. comes free with every windows shell..

>I am using a DOS based one now, and it is lacking.

Procomm Plus should do nicely. as would crosstalk (even crosstalk XVI for thos
e
machines with only 128 Kb of ram..)...

>jeff wright
>kc5nez


Bill Newkirk WB9IVR                  The Space Coast Amateur Technical Group
Melbourne, FL                       duty now for the future of amateur radio
Lombardi's 1st Law of Business:
Companies succeed in spite of their best effort.  If they succeed at all.



From Unknown Thu Dec 21 20:36:08 1995
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From: "Joseph P. Feehan" <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Advice on Good Packet/Logging Pgms
Date: 20 Dec 1995 02:15:47 GMT
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Mike Hatzakis <[e-mail]> wrote:
>Any suggestions on good programs for logging and packet control
>preferably in windows.  Also be great to have a shareware copy or
>evaluation,
>
>Thanks, Mike
>
>WB2TBQ, Mike [e-mail]

Mike: For a comprehensive logger try "LOGIC", advertised in QST.
 They have a demo version.  In recent issue of QST there was a
product review of logging programs you might find interesting.

For packet, it depends on your TNC; I have an AEA PK232 TNC and
use AEA's PcPakratt program (2.0) for Windows.  It's great!  It
has a simple VHF logger included.

73, VP2VBL.




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From: [e-mail] (Jo GyuChan (8924036))
Newsgroups: de.comm.ham,rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc,rec.radio.amateur.homebrew,rec.radio.amateur.misc,sci.electronics
Subject: Re: Serial-to-Parallel Converter
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Nicholas Abbot ([e-mail]) wrote:
: Richard Evans ([e-mail]) wrote:
: : In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Larry DeSoto) writes
:
: : |> In article <4a383p$a74$[e-mail]>, Brian Webb <
[e-mail]> writes:
: : |> > I'm trying to find either an IC or a schematic for converting
: : |> > serial-parallel.
: : |> >
: : |> > I own a solid state radioteletype decoder (circa 1980) designed
: : |> > to work with serial printers. However, my printer, like virtually
: : |> > all others is parallel.

  You may be able to make a serial-to-parallel converter. But, I guess you
might have good solution after you go through your printer manual. It
probably has a serial interface option or already have one.

--
Dickson 2.4
"People even being as stupid as me should still survive,
 strive to learn, and attempt to contribute."
                - from somebody's signature


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From: [e-mail] (Jim Hollenback)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Contesting, ad nauseum
Date: 20 Dec 1995 20:04:54 GMT
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Burt Fisher ([e-mail]) wrote:
: [e-mail] (Sean E. Kutzko) wrote:

: UN, folks, and it's quite difficult to pull off a major event. If you
: >think it's so easy, give it an honest try and see if you still feel the
: >same way. Contesting requires lots of skill, mental prowess, strong
: >knowledge of propagation, and a hell of a good ear. There is a lot more

: I never said it was easy, just pointless.
: Counting every snow flake in the air is not easy either but like contesting,
 to
: what end?
:
perhaps it is just like your stupid, content free posting to the net.
The question is why do you continually post drivel?

Jim






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From: [e-mail] (Stephan Rashkin)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: No-Code = Affirmative Action
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[e-mail] (Michael P. Deignan) wrote:

>In article <4atlg8$[e-mail]>,
>       Stephan Rashkin <[e-mail]> wrote:

>[description deleted]

>Didn't you forget the "6 figure income, BNW, $500,000 house, and
>racing semi-pro on weekends" ? :-)

>MD
>--
>--
>-- "Who needs looks when you've got taste?"
>--
When I finish with the bills and there's something left over after the
kid's I let you know :0>

Steve, WA2NHZ




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From: [e-mail] (Chris Oesterling)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Icom Repeater Question?
Date: 18 Dec 1995 20:51:10 GMT
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Help,

One of the pins in the external controller jack on the ICOM1220 repeater
(and I assume other Icom repeaters) is COR. i.e. when the squelch opens the
pin does something to tell an optional external repeater controller.

The Icom repeater has built in CTCSS decoding (which I want to use).

My problem is that when if the Icom CTCSS is enabled the COR pin is still
only affected by on the squelch opening or closing, even if the incorrect
CTCSS is being received.

I Need the Icom repeater to only change the state of the COR pin if
squelch is open AND the correct CTCSS tone is received.

I know I can add an additional CTCSS decoder in line with the audio but has
anyone modified their ICOM repeater to do the decoding and have the COR pin
indicate if squelch and the correct CTCSS tone is being received?

Thank you very much. - Chris N8UDK



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From: [e-mail] (Carl Steckler)
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Subject: Re: REQUEST INFO - Oklahoma Comm Center
Date: 18 Dec 1995 19:32:06 GMT
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>>Have you ever bought anything from Oklahoma Comm Center
>(1-800-765-HAMS)??
>>
>
>
>I buy ALL my equipment there. I have shoped around, but with their
>prices and they pay shipping, they are my ONLY store now....73
>
>Lee N5KXI
>

Add my satisfied voice to the list. Nothing but good service from these
people.
--
Carl (ex-jarhead) Semper Fi
KB2SGX
"For those who fought for it, freedom has a flavor the
protected will never know"
Unknown Marine, Khe Sahn, Viet Nam



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Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Attn Seattle Area - Anyone know AA7NG?
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
From: "Scott E. Parker" <[e-mail]>
Date: 15 Dec 95 21:38:03 MDT
Organization: Center for Atmospheric and Space Sciences
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 18-FEB-2002DOB,31-JUL-1962,BOTHELL,WA,98011,LST,UPD,18-FEB-1992
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From the FCC database (via the folks at UALR):

>AA7NG              DE LONG, DAVID P                    LIC ISU 18-FEB-1992
>EXTRA              6613 NE 155TH ST                    LIC EXP 18-FEB-2002
>DOB 31-JUL-1962    BOTHELL              WA  98011      LST UPD 18-FEB-1992

I'm wondering if this might be a long lost friend.  The name matches and the
DOB is about right.  Does anyone know this chap?  Is this the same David P.
DeLong that previously held calls K7IE and WA7ZHH?  (If so, why the new
call?)

73, -SEP

----------------------------------------------------------------------------
                        Scott E. Parker    WA7VYJ
                Center for Atmospheric and Space Sciences
             Utah State University      Logan, UT 84322-4405
   Internet: [e-mail]   [e-mail]
Twisted pair: 801-797-2975 (USU)  801-797-2992 (FAX)  801-762-0507 (home)




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Subject: Attn Seattle Area - Anyone know AA7NG?
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
From: "Scott E. Parker" <[e-mail]>
Date: 15 Dec 95 21:39:33 MDT
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From the FCC database (via the folks at UALR):

>AA7NG              DE LONG, DAVID P                    LIC ISU 18-FEB-1992
>EXTRA              6613 NE 155TH ST                    LIC EXP 18-FEB-2002
>DOB 31-JUL-1962    BOTHELL              WA  98011      LST UPD 18-FEB-1992

I'm wondering if this might be a long lost friend.  The name matches and the
DOB is about right.  Does anyone know this chap?  Is this the same David P.
DeLong that previously held calls K7IE and WA7ZHH?  (If so, why the new
call?)

73, -SEP

----------------------------------------------------------------------------
                        Scott E. Parker    WA7VYJ
                Center for Atmospheric and Space Sciences
             Utah State University      Logan, UT 84322-4405
   Internet: [e-mail]   [e-mail]
Twisted pair: 801-797-2975 (USU)  801-797-2992 (FAX)  801-762-0507 (home)




From Unknown Thu Dec 21 20:36:17 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Mike R.)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: I am looking for a good Ham Radio FTP Site!!!!
Date: Thu, 21 Dec 1995 01:40:59 GMT
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[e-mail] (Ken Allen) wrote:


>If you know of any good Ham Radio FTP sites, please let me know.
>The only one that I have is: "ftp.ucsd.edu"

>Thanks,

>       Les Goins -- K5HR
>       [e-mail]

Les,

     I hear that http://www.mit.edu is another good location for Ham
radio info, but I must say that I have not checked it out myself yet.
Believe it or not, I'm new to the Internet and am still learning how
to navigate.  Good hunting and let me know if you find anything!

73's de VK8MR (Mike)




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From: [e-mail] (Stan Huntting)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Packet on an Icom IC2AT ??
Date: 20 Dec 1995 20:20:33 GMT
Organization: SuperNet Inc. (303)-296-8202 Denver Colorado
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In article <4b980k$rtm$[e-mail]>,
[e-mail] says...

>I have an icom 2AT and no other base/mobile radio in shack and
>have on ald Kantronics packet communicator.  Can I rig up the 2AT
>for packet by using the mic input and PTT and audio out...?   Has
>anyone tried this.. ?

Packet radio is the proverbial pasture that most IC2-ATs are living out their
retirement in. It's probably the most popular radio there is for packet. Have
fun.

Stan
--
Stan Huntting,    KF0IA
Postal Address:   4655 Pleasant Ridge Rd.,
                  Boulder, CO 80301-1731, USA
email:            [e-mail]
KaWin Home Page:  http://www.mutadv.com/kawin/
KaWin FTP Site:   ftp.csn.net in the directory /kawin



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From: Chris Boone <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Reverse autopatch control op
Date: 20 Dec 1995 23:48:10 GMT
Organization: ENTERGY/Gulf States Utilities
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Actually Hans,


A control op MUST be able to CONTROL the rptr and patch....

Even above 222.15, the "control" op cannot be the user!!! Unless
the user has the codes to CONTROL the rptr...

BUT even then, they still cant answer it ON THE air...it must be
answered OFF the air per FCC Rules, comments, etc over the
years...too many out there do NOT want to read the rules and even
if they do, they tend to ignore it....

Chris
WB5ITT

--
Senior Telecommunications Technician  [e-mail]
ENTERGY/Gulf States Utilities         1:106/4267 FIDOnet
WB5ITT - Advanced Class               BBS- 409-447-4267 (WBBS)
PG-9-5322  FCC Commercial             409-525-2001 PhoneMail 24hr


From Unknown Thu Dec 21 20:36:20 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Mark A. Downing)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: no-code=no-brain
Date: Wed, 20 Dec 95 00:32:11 GMT
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I would have to agree with this..... In August of 1994 I passed the no-code
tech testing. In January 1995 I started studying the code, (20-60 mins every
day) and in July passed 20wpm. One or two 20 minute sessions a day should not
be too difficult for anyone.....

73 de AC6PN
--Mark

In article <4b72q2$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (KF2TI) wrote:

>On february 6, 1993, 6 people took the tests...5 walked out with Advanced,
>1 with Extra class licenses.
>
>The moral...we all have extremely busy schedules....and as the commercial
>sez..there's always room for jello
>
>73,
>
>yours in radio and scouting
>
>steve KF2TI


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From: [e-mail] (Carl Steckler)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: WA4D and his Noise
Date: 18 Dec 1995 19:26:51 GMT
Organization: Cornell University
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In article <4afj1o$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] says...
>
>Having been personally intentionally interferred with, stepped on,
>and insulted on both HF and local 2 meters FM repeaters by WA4D, this
>amateur knows the only way to deal with him.
>
>Ignore him on the air and block his postings to the news groups.
>
>Do yourselves a favor....ignore him....he isn't worth it

A hat pin in his coax might be fun. hint, hint. You know for someone who
claims to be so smart Wa4d sure seems to forget how easy it is for folks to
find him. I know some other Nam Vets who have a bettes sense of humor than I
do.

--
Carl (ex-jarhead) Semper Fi
KB2SGX
"For those who fought for it, freedom has a flavor the
protected will never know"
Unknown Marine, Khe Sahn, Viet Nam



From Unknown Thu Dec 21 20:36:23 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Are Barstad)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.policy,rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: The true Santa.
Date: 18 Dec 1995 14:39:35 GMT
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In article <4b102n$[e-mail]>,
   Burt Fisher <[e-mail]> wrote:
>A Politically Correct Merry
>
>'Twas the night before christmas and santa's a wreck...
(snip)

Why don't you spend your leisure time with your family or something? Go for a
jog or whatever. You remind me of one of those hams that spend all their time
in front of the computer drinking beer and eating peanuts. If I hadn't been
working night shifts with nothing else to do, the last thing I would do would
be wasting my time on the net posting Christmas carols in a RADIO newsgroup!

I'm starting to believe what you say about hams, but so far you are the only
one I know that match your description. Hopefully your wife (if you have
one) gets as much attention as your ham friends in rec.radio.misc.

Merry Christmas,
VA3ARE - Are Barstad

------------------------------------------
My opinions are my own, not my employer's.


From Unknown Thu Dec 21 20:36:24 1995
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From: "David E. Shelton" <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Windows packet program?
Date: 19 Dec 1995 07:05:20 GMT
Organization: University of Louisville, School of Nursing
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To: Window,Packet,Program

There are several windows based packet programs out there that are good
some much better than others. The best I have seen is the Winpack, it
works great and has several advanced features like 7plus compression and
automated message retrieval. It is freeware and can be downloaded from
Compuserve's Hamnet forum and several ftp sites.

73,

de KE4FPS, David

[e-mail]@onram
p.net (jeff wright) wrote:
>I am new to packet and am looking for a Windows packet program.  Does
>anyone know if there is one available?
>
>I am using a DOS based one now, and it is lacking.
>
>jeff wright
>kc5nez
sville.edu




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From: [e-mail] (Jeffrey Wittich)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Strange RFI
Date: 20 Dec 1995 15:18:48 GMT
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In article <4b8qgb$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Bob Molloy)
writes:
|> I am trying to nail down a source of RFI that I hear on 3990KHz early in th
e morning local time.
|>  I get a loud (20db over S9) noise that lasts for 30 seconds. After 2 mins.
 10 secs. it starts again. The
|> noise seems to stop at sunrise, although this may only be that it's being c
overed by strong signals when
|> the band opens. The noise seems to be coming thru the antenna since I can a
lso hear it on a battery
|> operated receiver.
|>
|> Does anyone have any idea what might be causing this noise or operating on
this cycle?
|>

I had that problem a year or so ago.  It was a street light a few hundred
yards away with a bad bulb.  The noise would cycle on and off every
few minutes as the bulb lit and went out.  A call to the street light
bulb changing S.W.A.T. team, and the problem was gone.

73, Jeff
--
***********************************************************************
[e-mail]   *** CW ops let their fingers do the talking.
AC4ZO           *** BNR claims they know nothing of my employment here.
***********************************************************************


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From: Burt Fisher <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Contesting, ad nauseum
Date: 21 Dec 1995 02:06:55 GMT
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[e-mail] (Jim Hollenback) wrote:
>
>perhaps it is just like your stupid, content free posting to the net.
>The question is why do you continually post drivel?

I am a ham.



#================#=====================================================#
|  Burt Fisher   |  Teacher of video, broadcasting and electronics     |
| Amateur call   |         South Dennis, Ma. (Cape Cod)                |
|    K1OIK       |  The less you say, the more people will remember    |
#================#=====================================================#
|                            [e-mail]                          |
#======================================================================#

I never make the mistake of arguing with people for whose opinions I have
no respect.
Edward Gibbon




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From: [e-mail] (Rob Janssen)
Subject: Re: What do you think of the KPC-9612 TNC ?
Reply-To: [e-mail]
Organization: PE1CHL
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In <4b20v1$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Karl Medcalf (WK5M)) writes
:

>The Bit Error Rate test with the KPC-9612 against G3RUH (which is used in the

>Kantronics Data Engine) show this to be incorrect. I'm not sure what figures
>"they" are quoting - if any - to support this claim. In the real world
>networks using mixtures of KPC-9612, Net/ROM (in whatever tnc), G3RUH or K9NG
,
>there is NO SIGNIFICANT difference in throughput - assuming the user has
>properly adjusted their equipment.

I don't know what kind of modem is in the 9612, but it is very clear that
on "9600 baud ready" radios (which really aren't) the bit error rate is
better when using a real G3RUH modem than it is with an AEA PK-96 (which
uses some modified K9NG modem).
The G3RUH modem results in less intersymbol interference, and combined with
the bad low-frequency response of some radios it apparently has a positive
effect on the results...

Rob
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+------------------------------------+--------------------------------------+
| Rob Janssen         [e-mail] | BBS: [phone] (2300-0730 local) |
| AMPRnet:       [e-mail] | AX.25 BBS: PE1CHL@PI8WNO.#UTR.NLD.EU |
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From: [e-mail] (Mark D. Fergus)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Windows packet program?
Date: Mon, 18 Dec 1995 03:57:53 GMT
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In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (jeff
wright) writes:



>I am new to packet and am looking for a Windows packet program.  Does
>anyone know if there is one available?

>I am using a DOS based one now, and it is lacking.

>jeff wright
>kc5nez

Check out the ftp site ftp:cica.indiana.edu (I think), or try
http://www.shareware.com.  I was browsing that site and found a windows pkt
program.  I downloaded it and tried it out.  It did absolutely nothing.  Maybe

it is not compatible with the Kantronics KPC-3.  I'm sure there are other ftp
sites where windows packet programs are available.  Try ftp: oak.oakland.edu
as well.

There are also windows pkt programs available at most ham dealers.

73 de N8VJF
Mark D. Fergus


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Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Can a Green Card holder be a ham?
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
From: "Scott E. Parker" <[e-mail]>
Date: 15 Dec 95 21:27:12 MDT
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[e-mail] (Michael Crestohl) wrote:
>It is true that all you need is to pass the license tests and have a mailing
>address in the U.S.  I've held a U.S. callsign since 1978 while still a
>Canadian resident.  I had a P.O. box for my mail.

Hi Michael:

I am wondering if the inverse is true.  If I come up with a mailing address
in VE and take the test can I get licensed?  There are some things I'd like
to do that would require an STA in the U.S. but they may be legal in Canada.
I'm not sure that what I'd like to do would be 100% OK in VE, but what I've
seen of the Canadian rules comes a lot closer than the US rules.

73, -SEP

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I also got my 610-V from ARRL... in it was an inclusion that said the windows
would likely open "well into the first quarter of 1996"

Mel KJ9C (rotten CW call, especially in a pileup)


In article <4b43qa$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Michael Crestohl)
writes:
> A friend told me the other day he received his FCC-601-V form from the
> ARRL.
>
> Has the FCC announced the dates for the "gates" to open?
>
> 73,
>
>     .-.                                                               .-.
>    /   \           .-.                                 .-.           /   \
>   /     \         /   \       .-.     _     .-.       /   \         /     \
> -/--Michael Crestohl KH6KD/W1/---\---/-\---/---\-----/-----\[e-mail]-\
--
>           \     /       \   /     `-'   `-'     \   /       \     /
>            \   /         `-'                     `-'         \   /
>             `-'                                               `-'
>
>


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From: [e-mail] (Gene McAvoy)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: I am looking for a good Ham Radio FTP Site!!!!
Date: Mon, 18 Dec 1995 15:54:58 GMT
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[e-mail] (Ken Allen) wrote:


>If you know of any good Ham Radio FTP sites, please let me know.
>The only one that I have is: "ftp.ucsd.edu"

>Thanks,

>       Les Goins -- K5HR
>       [e-mail]

Try this one Les...

        http://www.sincom.com/~scanware/index.html

Lots of related links, including several Ham Radio FTP sites.

73...Gene / KG7XD

ScanWare Associates
http://www.sincom.com/~scanware/index.html
email: [e-mail]
BBS 360.8714228 or 360.871.4591



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From: [e-mail] (Stan Huntting)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Windows packet program?
Date: 18 Dec 1995 15:46:49 GMT
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In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail]
says...

>I am new to packet and am looking for a Windows packet program.  Does
>anyone know if there is one available?

>I am using a DOS based one now, and it is lacking.

Hi Jeff,

If your Tnc is one of the Kantronics product line, you should try KaWin. It's
the only program available that fully exploits the capabilities of both your
Tnc and the Windows environment. The full program (complete with nag meter ;-)
)
is available for download from the KaWin Home Page or FTP site (see below).

73 es gl de kf0ia. Stan.
--
Stan Huntting,    KF0IA
Postal Address:   4655 Pleasant Ridge Rd.,
                  Boulder, CO 80301-1731, USA
email:            [e-mail]
KaWin Home Page:  http://www.mutadv.com/kawin/
KaWin FTP Site:   ftp.csn.net in the directory /kawin



From Unknown Thu Dec 21 20:36:36 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Richard Murnane)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,aus.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: NEW WEB PAGE: Wireless Institute of Australia (VK2 Division)
Date: 19 Dec 1995 20:50:59 +1100
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In article <4at5a1$7lt$[e-mail]>,
Wireless Institute of Australia NSW <[e-mail]> wrote:
>       Wireless Institute of Australia (VK2) on Web
>
>     http://sydney.dialix.oz.au/~wiansw/
>

Thanks everyone for your feedback about the Web page, and my apologies to
those who had problems with the background colour (Sorry, I was testing
it with a 256 colour display, forgetting that those of you using 16
colours would get a dithered mess. I've corrected this now, so
readability should be back to Q5 :-)


>PS: On packet, you may encounter some abusive comments by Julie Kentwell
>VK2XBR/VK2ISI, who has taken exception to the Division establishing this
>Web page. Without having seen it, he has claimed that it contains lies,
>though about whom or what he hasn't said. Please disregard the
>histrionics of this person, who is regarded by many VK Amateurs as a
>raving lunatic.

Unfortunately, VK2XBR appears to be beyond repair...

73 Richard VK2SKY


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From: [e-mail] (Nicholas Abbot)
Newsgroups: de.comm.ham,rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc,rec.radio.amateur.homebrew,rec.radio.amateur.misc,sci.electronics
Subject: Re: Serial-to-Parallel Converter
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Richard Evans ([e-mail]) wrote:
: In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Larry DeSoto) writes:
: |> In article <4a383p$a74$[e-mail]>, Brian Webb <10
[e-mail]> writes:
: |> > I'm trying to find either an IC or a schematic for converting
: |> > serial-parallel.
: |> >
: |> > I own a solid state radioteletype decoder (circa 1980) designed
: |> > to work with serial printers. However, my printer, like virtually
: |> > all others is parallel.
: |>
: |> You need a Universal Asynchronous Receiver Transmitter (UART).  One
: |> entirely satisfactory device I've used is a Giant AY-1013.  This is
: |> an old device and I don't know if they are still being manufactured.
: |> If you can get one, it is easy to use in that it requires minimal
: |> support (a clock and maybe a level converter for the serial line).

: The 6402 is also suitable. This may be pin compatible with the AY-1013,
: and is definitely still available. You can choose parity/stop bits etc
: by hard wiring various pins high or low, and it will run up to 100Kbps.
: This version needs a clock input, but there's also a 6403 which has a
: clock generator built-in so you can just add a Xtal.

        You could probaly pick-up a cheap serial printer
        for less aggravation and dollars.


From Unknown Thu Dec 21 20:36:38 1995
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From: Burt Fisher <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Contesting, ad nauseum
Date: 20 Dec 1995 12:47:07 GMT
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[e-mail] (Sean E. Kutzko) wrote:

UN, folks, and it's quite difficult to pull off a major event. If you
>think it's so easy, give it an honest try and see if you still feel the
>same way. Contesting requires lots of skill, mental prowess, strong
>knowledge of propagation, and a hell of a good ear. There is a lot more

I never said it was easy, just pointless.
Counting every snow flake in the air is not easy either but like contesting, t
o
what end?

#================#=====================================================#
|  Burt Fisher   |  Teacher of video, broadcasting and electronics     |
| Amateur call   |         South Dennis, Ma. (Cape Cod)                |
|    K1OIK       |  The less you say, the more people will remember    |
#================#=====================================================#
|                            [e-mail]                          |
#======================================================================#

I never make the mistake of arguing with people for whose opinions I have no
respect.
Edward Gibbon




From Unknown Thu Dec 21 20:36:39 1995
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From: Burt Fisher <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Contesting, ad nauseum
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[e-mail] (Sean E. Kutzko) wrote:

UN, folks, and it's quite difficult to pull off a major event. If you
>think it's so easy, give it an honest try and see if you still feel the
>same way. Contesting requires lots of skill, mental prowess, strong
>knowledge of propagation, and a hell of a good ear. There is a lot more

I never said it was easy, just pointless.
Counting every snow flake in the air is not easy either but like contesting, t
o
what end?

#================#=====================================================#
|  Burt Fisher   |  Teacher of video, broadcasting and electronics     |
| Amateur call   |         South Dennis, Ma. (Cape Cod)                |
|    K1OIK       |  The less you say, the more people will remember    |
#================#=====================================================#
|                            [e-mail]                          |
#======================================================================#

I never make the mistake of arguing with people for whose opinions I have no
respect.
Edward Gibbon




From Unknown Thu Dec 21 20:36:40 1995
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From: [e-mail] (WA6UBE)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: LARC: Gay Ham Club Activities
Date: 21 Dec 1995 00:01:08 -0500
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John L. Rouse writes:
>this that boosts radio.amateur.misc into the verbal zoo it seems to be
>turning into. Too bad. There's a lot of very useful information to be
>found between the postings of the loonies and the ravers.  The LARC group

>has every right in the world to post its message.
>If you don't agree with it, no problem -- ignore it. But there's
>absolutely no need to resort to this kind of base scurility. It's bad
>enough the social misfits use this group to rave on about whatever it is
>they rave on about, but people should not be confronted with this sort of

>garbage when they
>check in here.

Thank you John, for your  reply regarding offensive posters and language
here.
There is too much divisive rhetoric of the "us versus them" catagory. I
also agree
that LARC, as any other amateur radio group should not be harassed by
others

Trish ...
[e-mail] "The Vertical Skywave Girl"
Mobile radio repair shop supervisor - City of San Jose, GSA-Communications


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From: [e-mail] (Jack Yazel)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: morse code tranier
Date: 21 Dec 1995 16:50:16 -0500
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Jason Rossi ([e-mail]) wrote:


: if you want a realy good morse code tranier look under   oak.oakland.edu
: the software is called super morse... it help me memberized all of the
: letters and the numbers when i don't have to use them until i get a
: licenes....  i hope this helps you out!!!!

: [e-mail]  my destination is alpha if you need that!!

: laterz

   Yes, I like it too.

   However, while I was evaluating it, I discovered that the faster
 computers (such as the Pentium 100) appears to be too fast for the
 code speed setup.

   The program seems to get confused.

   I am going to attempt to contact the author to see if a modification
 is available.




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From: Burt Fisher <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Funny celebrity ham encounter
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[e-mail] (Dana Myers) wrote:

>The owner of the car came walking up, and my friend (who was
>also getting gas in his bike) started exclaiming "That's Garry
>Shandling!  That's Garry Shandling!".  Without really thinking,
>I said something like "Settle down!  Who's Garry Shandling anyway?"
>
>I really had no clue who Garry Shandling was at the time.

Tell me why that was funny?


#================#=====================================================#
|  Burt Fisher   |  Teacher of video, broadcasting and electronics     |
| Amateur call   |         South Dennis, Ma. (Cape Cod)                |
|    K1OIK       |  The less you say, the more people will remember    |
#================#=====================================================#
|                            [e-mail]                          |
#======================================================================#

I never make the mistake of arguing with people for whose opinions I have
no respect.
Edward Gibbon




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From: [e-mail] (KF2TI)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: no-code=no-brain
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>>In this busy world, its difficult or impossible for most to find
>>the consistant time to study for code.
>
>

I'm afraid I have to disagree.  I, too, have a busy schedule.  However, 5
friends and I (all TECH+, including one who had been liscensed for 37
years) decided that the time to upgrade was at hand (several years ago).
We got together each night at 10pm, well after the kids were in bed and
asleep and practiced on the air for 15-30 minutes each day for 5 weeks
straight.  We all starrted off slowly so that all could get up to speed
and continued from there.

On february 6, 1993, 6 people took the tests...5 walked out with Advanced,
1 with Extra class licenses.

The moral...we all have extremely busy schedules....and as the commercial
sez..there's always room for jello

73,

yours in radio and scouting

steve KF2TI


From Unknown Thu Dec 21 20:36:45 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Chris Sakkas)
Subject: WEB and FTP Site update
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Hello!

We've recently changed the URL to our ftp and web site.  The new URL's
are:

ftp://itutech.com               Anonymous FTP
http://www.itutech.com  World-Wide-Web site

Please update your links to reflect these changes.

Our ftp and web site features files on Electronics, Amateur Radio, PC
interfacing, PIC programming and other programs of interest to the
electronics/computer enthusiast.  Please feel free to upload your
contributions in the incoming directory.

Thanks!

Chris
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From: [e-mail] (Karl Medcalf (WK5M))
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc,rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: What do you think of the KPC-9612 TNC ?
Date: 17 Dec 1995 21:09:53 GMT
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In article <4b1sue$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] says...
>
>Why?
>
>Becuase they say from their 13 years experience that 9612s are not true G3RUH

>standards and suffer for it by very bad throughput.
>--
>Bob Smith, Atlanta, GA
>[e-mail]
>TAPR 5412  ARRL
>

The Bit Error Rate test with the KPC-9612 against G3RUH (which is used in the
Kantronics Data Engine) show this to be incorrect. I'm not sure what figures
"they" are quoting - if any - to support this claim. In the real world
networks using mixtures of KPC-9612, Net/ROM (in whatever tnc), G3RUH or K9NG,

there is NO SIGNIFICANT difference in throughput - assuming the user has
properly adjusted their equipment.

--
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From: [e-mail] (Joel B Levin)
Subject: Re: ReRe: Contesting
Message-ID: <30d43ca2.236213530@192.80.84.4>
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Organization: At home.
Date: Sun, 17 Dec 1995 15:57:41 GMT
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In <[e-mail]>,
   Jerry Gardner <[e-mail] (Jerry Gardner)> wrote:
|Not flame bait at all. Just my experience with the local contesters.
|They all look like poster boys for the American Heart Association
|with their enormous beer guts, quadruple chins, and fat butts.

Gee, most of the contesters I know around here don't look like that at all.
Not all young, many are though; they stay in reasonable shape, recognizing
that you need to be in pretty good condiiton to work the 48 hours of a big
contest.  One local contester is a runner and enters a lot of the regional
road races.  They contest sitting down, of course, but in between they have
lots of other things to do, often involving climbing one or two hundred feet
of aluminum at a time to attempt yet another improvement in their station.
Some of these guys are not just active contesters, but national or
international winners.

I'm sure there are contesters like those you describe, but there aren't too
many around here.

        /J

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From: [e-mail] (Jim Weir)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.policy
Subject: Re: VANITY CALLSIGN PGM - UPDATE PLEASE?????
Date: Mon, 18 Dec 1995 19:22:49 GMT
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[e-mail] (Michael Crestohl) wrote:

>A friend told me the other day he received his FCC-601-V form from the
>ARRL.

>Has the FCC announced the dates for the "gates" to open?

And also is there posted anywhere the final "rule" -- what
combinations of prefixes are available (i.e. can we have not only the
regular old W and K prefixes but the A and the N...), can a person
living in 3-land apply for a 5-land call, and all the rest of it.  NOT
HEARSAY, but the actual rules.

Also, is there a site somewhere with the currently available USED
calls so that we can do a search for calls that we want?

Jim



Jim Weir VP Engineering  | "We seem to be standing on
RST Engineering          |  the foreskin of technology."
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From: [e-mail] (James A Doty)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: no-code=no-brain
Date: 19 Dec 1995 13:39:00 GMT
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Michael P. Deignan ([e-mail]) wrote:

> Interesting concept. You somehow had the "time" to get your Tech license.
> You somehow have the "time" to use your Tech license. But now when the
> issue shifts to "upgrading", you mysteriously no longer have the "time",
> with "school" being the convenient "out" for you. Typical welfare-state

Strange how you equate school with welfare.

I'm an Advanced class operator.  When I've finished school (Clark
College) I plan to upgrade to Amateur Extra.  Here's the deal though,
I had time to become an amateur radio operator because I wasn't going
to school full time and working part-time.  Maybe that was the case
with the person you left your thoughtful message to.

You can't force someone to become a ham radio operator, and you can't
force a ham radio operator to upgrade.  I have plenty of friends who
are Tech-Plus operators and have been for years.  I don't believe that
most will ever upgrade.  One of the men who gave me my Novice test in
1990 is a General class operator and has been for more than 20 years.

Okey, I'll get off my soap box now.

James A. Doty
KI7EL



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Subject: ARLX074 Ham radio on parade
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SB SPCL @ ARL $ARLX074
ARLX074 Ham radio on parade

ZCZC AX45
QST de W1AW
Special Bulletin 74  ARLX074
From ARRL Headquarters
Newington CT  December 19, 1995
To all radio amateurs

SB SPCL ARL ARLX074
ARLX074 Ham radio on parade

The Edison Amateur Radio Network in Southern California will bring
ham radio to the Tournament of Roses Parade in Pasadena January 1.
The group plans to operate on 20 meters from the Southern California
Edison parade float using the club's call sign, WA6USD.

In exchange for the opportunity to operate from the float, and to
possibly get some national publicity for Amateur Radio in the
process, club members agreed to help build the float.  In addition
to parade day, WA6USD will be on the air daily after December 26 as
the float is under construction.  Jim Walls, WB6WMW, will be at the
controls January 1.
NNNN
/EX


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From: John Mullan <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Strange RFI
Date: 20 Dec 1995 21:25:22 GMT
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[e-mail] (Jeffrey Wittich) wrote:
>
>In article <4b8qgb$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Bob Molloy)
 writes:
>|> I am trying to nail down a source of RFI that I hear on 3990KHz early in t
he morning local time.
>|>  I get a loud (20db over S9) noise that lasts for 30 seconds. After 2 mins
. 10 secs. it starts again. The
>|> noise seems to stop at sunrise, although this may only be that it's being
covered by strong signals when
>|> the band opens. The noise seems to be coming thru the antenna since I can
also hear it on a battery
>|> operated receiver.
>|>
>|> Does anyone have any idea what might be causing this noise or operating on
 this cycle?
>|>
>
>I had that problem a year or so ago.  It was a street light a few hundred
>yards away with a bad bulb.  The noise would cycle on and off every
>few minutes as the bulb lit and went out.  A call to the street light
>bulb changing S.W.A.T. team, and the problem was gone.
>
>73, Jeff
Sounds like a problem I encountered with a street light about a decade ago.
Noise occurs while the light was warming up to full brightness. As soon as it
went full bright it cycled off, cooled off and started over. Called the local
street light people, they did their thing and the problem didn't go
away...called again, got the mumbo-jumbo that they couldn't do anything. I
mentioned it was interfering with Ham radio operation and they were out within
the hour and stayed on it till it was fixed. Make sure you tell them it is
causing RFI.



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From: [e-mail] (Keith Wyatt)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: 49 Mhz
Date: 21 Dec 95 11:10:56 GMT
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>Date: 19 Dec 1995 21:33:25 GMT
>From:  (Mark Langenfeld)
>Subject: 49 mHz
>
>I seem to recall reading something some time ago about some experimenters
>playing with QRP DX'ing in the 49 mHz Part 15 allocation. I think there
>was even a newsletter being published on the subject.
>
>Does this ring a bell with anyone?
>
>Mark  --  WA9ETW
Mark, I recall back in the late 70's early 80's there was a small movement
for this
but with cordless phones no occupyong those frequencies it killed that
market real quick!
73, n6jpa
Keith Wyatt <[e-mail]>
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From: [e-mail] (Jerry B Altzman)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: "GRRReat"! ARRL chutzpah
Date: 17 Dec 1995 21:18:04 GMT
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In article <[e-mail]>,
Vincent Socci ph2828 <[e-mail]> wrote:
>Jerry B Altzman ([e-mail]) wrote:
>: In any case, how come they need 4 months lead time to process my renewal?
>: Granted, the interest on the $24 won't amount to much, but it's something.

>As with any business, wouldn't YOU want to have an idea of sales figures
>4 months in advance?  After all, they need to buy inventory, schedule
>deliveries, plan production, etc. just as if they were manufacturing
>autos, computers, or anything.

Fine -- they could say so. "We're trying to do our corporate planning, so
re-up now..."

I think the answer of "we only process resubscriptions for nn business days
per month" is a better and more realistic one.

>Don't sweat it!  Just think of it like you're getting an "Early-Bird Discount
".

If I were getting a discount, that would be one thing, but I'm not. Ergo,
QEX can wait until my January issue arrives at my mailbox (around April,
probably) and then they can get my money.

>Vince

//jbaltz
jerry b. altzman   Entropy just isn't what it used to be      [phone]
[e-mail]   [e-mail]  KE3ML  (HEPNET) NEVIS::jbaltz


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Subject: Re: Fix your MFJ 986 Tuner before it breaks
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>inductor when the shaft breaks.
>
>Yes, MFJ is aware of this design flaw.

I spoke with MFJ about 6 weeks ago and in the course of the conversation
was informed that an upgraded version of the 986 would be "rolling" off
the line.

N1MSV

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                Universe...they knew them not...


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From: Chris Boone <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Best repeater controller under US$150
Date: 15 Dec 1995 22:21:49 GMT
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The RLC 1 cannot be upgraded to voice nor does it support
autopatch....

The RC-100 and 1000s does not support multiple rptrs/links like
the LinkComs can, nor do they have the speech
vocabulary like the LinkComs...considering that the ACC systems
used to be the standard, the LinkComs are CHEAP compared to
them....

I own a ACC RC850 and two RLC3s...the RLC will do more than my
850 would in a lot of ways (It still has some catching up to do
in some areas though) at half the price!

The Kantronics is not much to look at (I think its a redo of the
RFC controller that was on the market years ago)...

For what HE was asking for, the Linkcom RLC series is the one to
go with....for little link capacity while having voice ids and
autopatch... CATs are also good units...

73
Chris

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From: [e-mail] (Carl Steckler)
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Subject: Re: Code? Just my 2 cents...
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>Anyway, the point is that "HF" is *not* like "CB".  I've had thousands
>of exciting and interesting contacts over the years, and I'd guess
>that only about 2 percent of my time on HF has been spoiled by some
>jerks.  Of course only about 15 percent of my operating has been on
>SSB, and that 2 percent figure comes mostly from my time on SSB...
>
>You may not enjoy anything HF has to offer, but please don't condemn
>it based upon a very limited exposure to just one of its many facets.
>

I would say exactly the same for VHF and UHF. Believe it or not some of us
are happy there. What I can not understand is why there are some who aren't
happy with us being happy where we are?

I listen to HF and realize that there are good and bad HF'rs, but I don't
stereotype them all as being one way or another.

P.S. some folks have commented that my sig lines are not revelant. If you
were there you understand why it is used, if you werent there it may not
mean as much, and therefore have less importance. The line, not the freedom.

Carl (ex-jarhead) Semper Fi
KB2SGX
"For those who fought for it, freedom has a flavor the
protected will never know"
Unknown Marine, Khe Sahn, Viet Nam



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From: [e-mail] (Joel B Levin)
Subject: Re: Cut the crap: Contesting
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Organization: At home.
Date: Mon, 18 Dec 1995 12:15:55 GMT
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In <4b1s0s$[e-mail]>,
   Burt Fisher <Burt Fisher <[e-mail]>> wrote:
|[e-mail] (Joel B Levin) wrote:
|>Gee, most of the contesters I know around here don't look like that at all.
|>Not all young, many are though; they stay in reasonable shape, recognizing
|>that you need to be in pretty good condiiton to work the 48 hours of a big
|>contest.  One local contester is a runner and enters a lot of the regional
|
|Cut the crap, you do not need to be "in shape" to sit on your ass for a long
|time.

One could argue this point, since staying awake and functional for 48 hours
is not an easy matter.

Nevertheless, my point was and still is that most contesters I know do not
match Burt's stereotype of a fat flabby old potbellied beer-gutted couch
potato, and the contesters I've met include at least one world champion.

I think Burt hangs around with the wrong crowd.

--
Nets: [e-mail]  | Those who cavalierly reject the Theory of
  or [e-mail]| Evolution, as not adequately supported by facts,
pots: [phone]  | seem quite to forget that their own theory is
ARS:  KD1ON          | supported by no facts at all.       --H. Spencer





From Unknown Thu Dec 21 20:37:00 1995
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Subject: Amateur Radio Art & Literature - Request for info
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From: "Scott E. Parker" <[e-mail]>
Date: 15 Dec 95 21:57:04 MDT
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There is an ad that appeared in CQ during 1985 for prints of a piece of
artwork entitled "Night Signals" which depicts a young ham of yesteryear
in his shack.  I'd like to get a copy but have had no luck contacting the
gent who was selling them.  He is listed in the ad aws N1DFF.  FCC data
says he's now N0LFU.  But mail to him at the address in the FCC database
has been returned marked UNKNOWN, NO FORWARDING ADDRESS ON FILE.  Anyone
know where/how to get a copy of this print?

Item #2...
Back in the early seventies, shortly before actually becoming a ham myself,
I read two pieces of amateur radio fiction.  One was Walker Tompkins' "SOS
at Midnight".  This book is still available from ARRL (an updated edition
in line with today's technology.  In the edition I read Tommy Rockford ran
a 75m rig powered by a dynamotor in his car.)  The other book was titled
"Today I Am a Ham" (or something similar).  I can't remember the author.
Any readers familiar with this book?  I'm really curious to know who wrote
it, where copies might be found, who was the publisher, etc.

73, -SEP

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From: [e-mail] (gregory brown)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: No Code Solution
Date: 17 Dec 1995 21:14:40 GMT
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Robert Moldenhauer ([e-mail]) wrote:

: Comrade,

: If CW was so much fun why do you have to force people to learn it?  If it'a
fun
: then you can eliminate the test and people will still keep doing it.
: The test become irrellevant.  Your thinking reminds me of the old Soviet Uni
on.

And your thinking reminds me of a school-child complaining about
learning the alphabet.  After all, being able to read, write, and even
post to usenet is sure fun...so why should we keep forcing those kids
to learn the alphabet? They'll surely pick it up on their own, won't
they?

There are dozens of things in life we'd rather avoid doing or learning
because they seem unpleasant or unnecessary at the time. Ironically,
they're often quite important, and sometimes lead to some very pleasant
results.  Long-term benefits are often hard to sell to short-sighted
humans on a voluntary basis.

Now, sit still and eat your broccoli...it's good for you.  :-)

Greg







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From: [e-mail] (Joe Buch)
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Subject: Re: Mobile HF Interference
Date: Mon, 18 Dec 1995 23:56:01 GMT
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[e-mail] (John Meaker) wrote:



>   I have inatalled an FT-900AT in a 1995 Ford Escort and have a
>chopping noise on both transmit and receive.  I have not yet made
>the fuel pump modification to the car.  The radio has a power supply
>that is totally independent of the car electrical system.  There is
>a separate 12v deep cycle battery in the trunk.  I have installed the
>radio using the remote mounting kit; the radio in the trunk and just
>the control head in the driver's compartment.

You neglected to state the chopping frequency.  If the
chopping effect is fairly slow, i.e. on the order of a
second or so, I would suggest that you look at the current
carrying capacity of the battery and its connecting wires.
You could be dragging the battery voltage down below the
point where the relays in the radio will hold in.  When they
drop out, the load is removed and the voltage recovers.  The
relay then energizes and the cycle repeats.  Suggest you
monitor the 12VDC at the radio.  The 12VDC output jack is a
good place to connect a meter. 73

~*-.,_,.-*~'^'~*-.,_,.-*~'^'~*-.,_,.-*~'
Joe Buch N2JB
Editor, NASWA Journal Technical Topics
[e-mail]
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From: [e-mail] (Michael P. Deignan)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: no-code=no-brain
Date: 19 Dec 1995 07:56:13 -0500
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In article <[e-mail]>,
        charles copeland <[e-mail]> wrote:

>I am a tech+ and about to take my 13wpm general test. It takes
>ALOT of time to work up to 13wpm. Consistancy is a must.
>Preparing for written tests is MUCH less time consuming than
>preparing for code tests. Code test preparation takes 10X more time.

Code is a personal issue -- sometimes it takes people no time at all
to get to 20WPM, others it takes forever.


>In this busy world, its difficult or impossible for most to find
>the consistant time to study for code.

So because people are "busy" they should be excused from the
requirements? What next? "Sorry, I don't have time to read the
regulations, so I should be excused" ?

If you can find time to pick up the microphone and yak on 2 meters,
or bitch and whine in r.r.a.m/p, you have the time to make one or two
CW contacts during the day.


MD
--
--
-- "Who needs looks when you've got taste?"
--


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From: [e-mail]  [Joshua W. Flood]
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: no-code=no-brain
Date: 17 Dec 1995 21:00:49 GMT
Organization: SoVerNet, Inc.
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>Interesting concept. You somehow had the "time" to get your Tech license.
>You somehow have the "time" to use your Tech license. But now when the
>issue shifts to "upgrading", you mysteriously no longer have the "time",
>with "school" being the convenient "out" for you. Typical welfare-state
>mentality justification for handouts.

I never said that I am looking for a handout. I just get sick of people lookin
g
down upon me simply because I have not upgraded yet. The reason I used to
have the time to do things like study for my license is that at the time I
was taking a year off from school. Not to mention that it was so easy that
I did most of my studying in the passenger seat while we were on our way
to the test. Of course it also helped that just a year before (2 years ago)I
had helped my dad study for his tech+ license by quizing him, so I knew most
of the questions anyways. (Yes, if you read all of the last post, he is Extra
now)

I suppose that with my background I would have no problem learning the
technical information needed to upgrade all the way to extra class. I just nee
d
to find time to sit down and practice code for an hour or so every day. I just
don't like it when other operators look down on my because of my license class
.

- Josh

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From: Jim Cummings <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Can a Green Card holder be a ham?
Date: 19 Dec 1995 20:57:21 GMT
Organization: Industry Canada
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"Scott E. Parker" <[e-mail]> wrote:
>[e-mail] (Michael Crestohl) wrote:
>>It is true that all you need is to pass the license tests and have a mailing
>>address in the U.S.  I've held a U.S. callsign since 1978 while still a
>>Canadian resident.  I had a P.O. box for my mail.
>
>Hi Michael:
>
>I am wondering if the inverse is true.  If I come up with a mailing address
>in VE and take the test can I get licensed?  There are some things I'd like
>to do that would require an STA in the U.S. but they may be legal in Canada.
>I'm not sure that what I'd like to do would be 100% OK in VE, but what I've
>seen of the Canadian rules comes a lot closer than the US rules.
>
>73, -SEP
>

In order to be eligible to hold a Canadian amateur licence, you have to be the

holder of at least the Basic Qualification of an Amateur Radio Operator's
Certificate.  Since there are no citizenship restrictions to hold this certifi
cate,
anyone, regardless of citizenship, may subsequently apply for and hold a Canad
ian
radio licence in the amateur service.  The short answer to your question is ye
s, you
may be the holder of a Canadian amateur licence.

73 and live better digitally
Jim, VE3XJ





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From: Dave Hockaday <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Best repeater controller under US$150
Date: 20 Dec 1995 01:35:38 GMT
Organization: News & Observer Public Access
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>   Chris Boone <[e-mail]> wrote:
>>The RLC 1 cannot be upgraded to voice nor does it support
>>autopatch....
>
>I think you are quoting my post here.
>
>>The RC-100 and 1000s does not support multiple rptrs/links like
>>the LinkComs can, nor do they have the speech
>>vocabulary like the LinkComs...considering that the ACC systems
>>used to be the standard, the LinkComs are CHEAP compared to
>>them....


I like and use several of the MCC RC-100's. No phone patch, but will
support one remote out of the box. They can be used with multiple remotes
as long as the audio mixing is done outside of the controller. It has
loads of aux cntrl outputs and can be configured for BCD. I use a $8
Hallmark greeting card 10 second voice storage module wired to the
RC-100's external ID port for outstanding voice ID quality on a budget.

I have several controllers of other brands incl. homebrew stuff, and feel
I get the max bang/buck with the MCC stuff. I also have some of their
RC-1000's and a VS-100 for ATV.

Just my $.02

Dave Hockaday WB4IUY
[e-mail]




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SB QST @ ARL $ARLB111
ARLB111 New 2300 MHz uses

ZCZC AG78
QST de W1AW
ARRL Bulletin 111  ARLB111
From ARRL Headquarters
Newington CT  December 19, 1995
To all radio amateurs

SB QST ARL ARLB111
ARLB111 New 2300 MHz uses

An October report by the National Telecommunications and Information
Administration (NTIA), entitled Land Mobile Spectrum Planning
Options, suggests a new use for the band 2300-2310 MHz, now
allocated to the Amateur Service on a secondary basis.  The report
states that the band has potential for new, non-Federal
radiolocation, fixed and mobile communication technologies.  The
report also notes that constraints are necessary for the protection
of NASA's Deep Space Network and Planetary Radar operations in an
adjacent band.  A table in the report describes a possible future
use of the band as Wide Area Land Mobile.

The 2300-2310 MHz band is expected to be the subject of an FCC
allocation proceeding as a follow-on to ET Docket No. 94-32, which
dealt with 2390-2400 and 2402-2417 MHz.
NNNN
/EX


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From: [e-mail]  [Joshua W. Flood]
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: no-code=no-brain
Date: 20 Dec 1995 07:31:57 GMT
Organization: SoVerNet, Inc.
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>I'm an Advanced class operator.  When I've finished school (Clark
>College) I plan to upgrade to Amateur Extra.  Here's the deal though,
>I had time to become an amateur radio operator because I wasn't going
>to school full time and working part-time.  Maybe that was the case
>with the person you left your thoughtful message to.

Pretty close. When I took my tech exam I was taking a year off from
school and working full time. Now I am back in school (on break right now)
and just can't find a time of the day that I feel like studying to waste on
practicing code. Not that code is a waste of time, but I have much more
important things to study. My day starts around 10:00 am and does not end
till 3 - 4 am. I am sure that you understand this being a student yourself.
Sure, if I was working instead of going to school I could make a portion of
each evening free to study code, but with my workload in and out of classes
it just does not happen.

As far as having time to get on the air, I am able to listen to my 2 meter rig
while studying since there is very little action at my school. (Kind of odd
considering how many fellow students I have met that are also Hams.) The only
time that I really get to use my radio is on the hour and a half drive from my
school to my parent's house when I go home for a weekend.

- Josh

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r.net
[e-mail]
[e-mail]                                               N1T
YM
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From Unknown Thu Dec 21 20:37:11 1995
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From: Dave Hockaday <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: GRRR! ARRL chutzpah
Date: 21 Dec 1995 13:59:18 GMT
Organization: News & Observer Public Access
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>>>Granted, the wording isn't exactly what I would use, but have you >>checked
 out the renewal requests from some of the other magazi=
>nes?  I >>sometimes get them up to six months before my subscriptions expire.
  If >>you don't subscribe to another magazine, ask you=
>r wife!  I am sure she >>has seen the same pattern.

I don't think the ARRL circulation department is behaving any differently
than any other publisher. Lots of things to process, etc., and these
things take time. There are lots of ARRL members to serve, and I think
they do a great job. I appreciate the ARRL sending my renewal notice
early so I don't forget to do so, wait too late, etc., and miss an issue.


>>Sigh. Everyone else jumping off the Empire State Building still wouldn't
>>compel me to do so.

I see this cup as half full, not half empty...


>I, for one, am glad that magazines send renewal notices early and often.
>I subscribe to Linn's stamp-collecting newsletter and it is really pot
>luck as to whether I will respond to the first or last renewal notice.
>If they only sent one, 30 days before the renewal date, chances are real
>good I would forget to renew and not notice until I missed a few
>issues.

Same here...I'm a true procrastinator :-)

Merry Christmas!
de Dave Hockaday WB4IUY
[e-mail]



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SB DX @ ARL $ARLD063
ARLD063 DX news

ZCZC AE39
QST de W1AW
DX Bulletin 63  ARLD063
From ARRL Headquarters
Newington CT  December 19, 1995
To all radio amateurs

SB DX ARL ARLD063
ARLD063 DX news

The ARRL Membership Services Committee (MSC, a standing committee of
the Board of Directors), having reviewed documentation from the DX
Advisory Committee (DXAC) and the Awards Committee, has voted 5 to 2
to recommend the addition of Scarborough Reef to the ARRL DXCC
Countries List.

The DXAC and the Awards Committee had come to opposite conclusions
regarding the eligibility of Scarborough Reef for separate DXCC
status.  Under new procedures adopted by the ARRL Board in July,
1995, when these committees do not agree the question is referred to
the MSC for review and recommendation to the full Board.

The recommendation that Scarborough Reef be added to the DXCC List
will be considered by the ARRL Board of Directors at its January
meeting.
NNNN
/EX


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From: [e-mail] (Cobra295)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: FS: Yaesu FT-11R Stock Set MINI 2M HT
Date: 20 Dec 1995 17:17:29 -0500
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FOR SALE:  YAESU FT-11R MINI-HANDHELD 2M HAM RADIO

--------------------------------------------------------------------------
----------------------------

-Extended TX/RX modification already completed
-Receives Aircraft (110-136MHz AM)
-Comes with 2W battery, charger, rubber duck, belt clip
-Complete with box, manual, documentation, etc.
-TX/RX Range: 136-180MHz
-CTCSS Encode included
-CTCSS Decode optional
-Radio has alphanumeric, DSQ, all types of paging, etc. all built in
-Being sold by original owner
-About 1 year old
-Smallest HT on the market able to output 5W (w/ optional battery)
-DC power cable/ext. ants/speaker mic/amplifiers/etc. all available
optionally
 to convert this radio for excellent mobile use.

PRICE:  $180 or Best Offer

Reason for selling: Need 440 capability (buying FT51R)

Payment by USPS Money Order ONLY, No COD available.
Buyer must pay shipping.

All questions/offers should be made via EMAIL REPLY ONLY.

Sean, N2ZJJ
[e-mail]


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From: [e-mail] (John Boyd)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc,rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: What do you think of the KPC-9612 TNC ?
Date: Thu, 21 Dec 1995 23:25:11 GMT
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[e-mail] (Bob Smith) wrote:

>>>[e-mail]>>
>>
>>In article <4b1sue$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] says...
>>>
>>>>I'm not sure what figures "they" are quoting - if any - to support this cl
aim.

>They say it's just their experience.  While not an expert there are many fact
ors
>that can alter what you see in a lab - equipment, terrain, interferance etc a
ll
>combine to make every situatin different.

>The guys on my cluster are just giving their opinion based on what they have
tried
>- for users to get up the fastest.  They were just more stringent about no 96
12's.
>They just couln't get them to work like the others given the same paramters (
radio,
>power, antenna, etc).

Aside from that, I need to ask a question.  If they "cut you off",
which is, in other words, interfering with your transmission, aren't
they violating FCC regulations in doing so?  Let's move the analogy to
voice.  Let's say that everyone that *I* talk to that used an HTX-202
had what I considered excess noise on their signal, and I refused to
talk to them, and if I heard someone on that I knew used an HTX-202
and I keyed over their signal, or cut them off at the autopatch,
someone would be sic'ing the FCC on me. If I tried to tell someone
that they could only use certain brands of radios to talk, I think the
ACLU would be volunteering to take my case.  How can they get away
with this kind of behavior?

Any enlightenment on the issue would be appreciated.



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From: [e-mail] (Sean E. Kutzko)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Contesting, ad nauseum
Date: 20 Dec 1995 04:21:01 GMT
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Seeing as this newsgroup has deteriorated to nothing more than
mudslinging, I'm somewhat reluctant to post this. Nevertheless...

As a contester, I find it saddening that some people on this newsgroup
think that it's a cakewalk. All that tells me is that you haven't tried
it. Maybe you're not interested in contesting... Fine, whatever fills
your Twinkie. But it's still in INCREDIBLY bad taste to condemn something
and the people who enjoy that activity simply because YOU don't like it.
Are you so certain of your opinions that you never question them?

I've said this before on this group, and I'll say it again: Contesting is
FUN, folks, and it's quite difficult to pull off a major event. If you
think it's so easy, give it an honest try and see if you still feel the
same way. Contesting requires lots of skill, mental prowess, strong
knowledge of propagation, and a hell of a good ear. There is a lot more
to it than simply screaming into a microphone.

If you're an operator that has thought about trying contesting, feel free to
drop me a line. I'd be happy to entertain your questions/comments, etc.
If you're just gonna flame me, don't waste your time or mine.

73 and happy holidays to all,

Sean


--
Sean Kutzko                                              Amateur Radio: KF9PL
Urbana, IL                                               DXCC: 305 wkd/301 cfmd

               "I'm still walking, so I'm sure that I can dance."


From Unknown Thu Dec 21 20:37:17 1995
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From: "John  L. Rouse" <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: LARC: Gay Ham Club Activities
Date: 19 Dec 1995 20:56:48 GMT
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[e-mail] (nunnya) wrote:
>
>
>
A misguided poster wrote:
 "So if any of you hams, like a big fat"..and more vulgar drivel..
>jeff aa7up
>

Now there's a really intelligent response to a posting. It's crap like
this that boosts radio.amateur.misc into the verbal zoo it seems to be
turning into. Too bad. There's a lot of very useful information to be
found between the postings of the loonies and the ravers.  The LARC group
has every right in the world to post its message.
If you don't agree with it, no problem -- ignore it. But there's
absolutely no need to resort to this kind of base scurility. It's bad
enough the social misfits use this group to rave on about whatever it is
they rave on about, but people should not be confronted with this sort of
garbage when they
check in here.

73, John KA3DBN
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From Unknown Thu Dec 21 20:37:18 1995
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From: [e-mail] (charles copeland)
Subject: Re: no-code=no-brain
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest)
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In article <4b6cpd$[e-mail]>,
Michael P. Deignan <[e-mail]> wrote:
>In article <[e-mail]>,
>       charles copeland <[e-mail]> wrote:
>
>>I am a tech+ and about to take my 13wpm general test. It takes
>>ALOT of time to work up to 13wpm. Consistancy is a must.
>>Preparing for written tests is MUCH less time consuming than
>>preparing for code tests. Code test preparation takes 10X more time.
>
>Code is a personal issue -- sometimes it takes people no time at all
>to get to 20WPM, others it takes forever.
>
>
>>In this busy world, its difficult or impossible for most to find
>>the consistant time to study for code.
>
>So because people are "busy" they should be excused from the
>requirements? What next? "Sorry, I don't have time to read the
>regulations, so I should be excused" ?

They should be tested on 1990's technology more thoroughly, and slack
off on the 1800's technology. Hams should know code, but 5wpm would
be more appropriate to get liscense on HF voice bands. Reserve
the CW bands for higher class licenses at 13wpm and 20wpm.

I think the current written tests are very a joke. Written tests
should encompass more in-depth technical questions and more of them.
The code requirement is useless to those who never intend to operate
in this mode. If there is going to be a filter, at least force people
to learn something useful in the process.



From Unknown Thu Dec 21 20:37:19 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Dennis Mobley)
Subject: Re: What do you think of the KPC-9612 TNC ?
Organization: Encore Computer Corporation
Date: Mon, 18 Dec 1995 19:43:48 GMT
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[e-mail] (Damien Dixsaut) writes:

>       Hi everyone,

>   I'm looking for someone who uses or has used a KPC-9612 TNC
>(9600 / 1200 bds dual port TNC) from Kantronics. I would like to
>know your opinion about it, particulary on the following points :

>   -Does it work well with those "9600 ready" radios like my kenwood
>    TM-255 ok TM-733 ?
>   -Is it a true G3RUH on the 9600 bds port ?
>   -What is the transfert rate (in cps) I can exect at 9600 bds ?

>   Any comment about this TNC greatly appreciated !

>
>          73 de Damien, F1LQJ in Paris, France

>e-mail: [e-mail]
>packet: [e-mail]

Hello Damien

I have a KAM-9612 connected to a Yaesu 2500m with the factory 9600 mods.
It works well and I have not had a problem with it.

I drive it with KaWins on the PC and MacAprs on the Mac.
(I work with both Macs & PC)

Hope this helps
73 de Dennis Mobley KT4FI
Sunrise Fl



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From: [e-mail]
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Subject: Re: Un francΘs estß buscando contacto
Date: Wed, 20 Dec 1995 14:10:39 -0800
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In article <[e-mail]>, Philippe CUVINOT
<[e-mail]> wrote:

> Hola,
>
> Soy francΘs y estoy buscando a amigos para conversar acerca de temas
> latino americanos. Me interesa muchφsimo la cultura precolombina y
> estoy realizando una pßgina a prop≤sito de las grandes civilizaciones.
> Escribanme para darme ideas interesantes. Gracias.
> Hasta pronto, Philippe.

Hola Philippe,

   Yo soy frances tambien, y vivo en Los Angeles, California. Trabajo como
bibliotecario especializado en literatura mexicana y centro americana, en
la University of Southern California. Me gustaria conversar contigo en
cualquier idioma (espanol, frances, ingles) y ayudarte. Aqui en el sur de
la California hay mucha gente de habla hispana y muchas organizaciones
culturales : mexicanas, salvadorenas, hondurenas......bueno una fuente muy
larga de posibilidades. Puedes usar mi correo electronico directamente

[e-mail]

espero hablar contigo muy pronto!  gracias

JEAN-LUC


JEAN-LUC ESTRELLA
DOHENY MEMORIAL LIBRARY
UNIVERSITY PARK CAMPUS
LOS ANGELES, CA, 90089
U.S.A.


From Unknown Thu Dec 21 20:37:22 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Mike Morris)
Subject: Re: Austin Amateur Radio Suppy
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Organization: College Park Software, Altadena, CA
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Kory Hamzeh <[e-mail]> writes:

>On Mon, 4 Dec 1995, Jim Weir wrote:

>> I can't argue with the article on AARS because I've never BEEN to
>> Austin, much less shopped there.
>>
>> However, AES down in Las Vegas has a person on staff named Squeak who
>> for my money is the sharpest, easiest to get along with ham radio
>> sales person I've ever had the pleasure of dealing with.  If you have
>> a question that Squeak can't answer, you've got yourself one hell of a
>> question.
>>
>> Jim

>I second that. I've bought a lot of stuff from the Las Vegas AES and
>they`ve been very helpful and curtious.

>Kory KE6VWO

I've known Squeak (now AD7K) since he had a six-land call, and that
was before he moved to Chicago and from there to Las Vegas.  I've bought
a lot of stuff from him - never had a single problem. I've also heard
horror stories about other vendors, but nothing but good stuff from
people I've pointed his way.

In my book he's GOOD PEOPLE.

DE WA6ILQ

--
---
Mike Morris                                [e-mail]
#include <disclaimer.std.h>        I have others, but this works the best.
   This message assembled from 100% recycled electrons (and pixels).


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From: Hank Oredson <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc,rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: What do you think of the KPC-9612 TNC ?
Date: 18 Dec 1995 22:59:42 GMT
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[e-mail] (Bob Smith) wrote:
>KPC 9612's are not allowed on our Packet Cluster.  The ops says even further
>that if they find out you have one they will cut you off.
>
>They recommend true G3RUH's from Paccomm or MFJ.

Why would that be?

We have a whole slew of 9612s and a whole slew of MFJs.
We have had a great deal of trouble with the MFJs.
The 9612s work fine.  Plug 'em in, they run.
We just recently replaced some MFJs with 9612s at one
site, just to avoid the continuing problems with the MFJs.

Much cleaner eye patterns with the 9612 demod, whether the
transmitter uses MFJ or 9612 ...

However, we have many links which use the MFJs and have never
shown any problems.  These have been short haul links with very
solid signals.  9612s have worked better on our longer / marginal
links ... probably because of the cleaner demod.

Do you have some adverse experience with the 9612s you can share?
Or is it just a matter of brand name bigotry involved?

   ...  Hank


--

Hank Oredson @ Mentor Graphics             Library Operations
Internet     : [e-mail]    "Parts 'R Us!"
Amateur Radio: [e-mail]




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From: [e-mail] (Craig Stimson)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Origin of Ham was Hams who ignore "newbies"
Date: Tue, 19 Dec 1995 04:36:16 GMT
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[e-mail] (James A Doty) wrote:

>[e-mail] wrote:

>> What follows is a message from a guy that asked for your help. All you

I thought someone would have answered the question "what is ham"
Guess I should have spoken up sooner.

This is a condensed version of an article in a local Hamclub
Newsletter:

THE ORIGIN OF "HAM"

The word ham was first applied in 1908 and was the call letters of the
first amateur radio club. Albert Hyman, Bob Almy and Peggy Murray
first called thier staion HYMAN-ALMY-MURRAY but in code it was tedious
so it was shortened to HYALMU. Confusion resulted  between signals
from HYALMU and a Mexican ship, MYALMO. They decided to use the first
letters of each name and identify as HAM. That's where the term
originated or so the story goes.

I don't know the authenticity of this and the article does go into
more detail. Anyways it was interesting reading. If there is enough
interest I will post the entire article.

73
Craig
VA3DCS
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
+  Craig Stimson                         +
+  E-mail: [e-mail]           +
+  AX.25 : VA3DCS@VE3ZRD.#SCON.ON.CA.NA  +
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++



From Unknown Thu Dec 21 20:37:25 1995
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From: [e-mail] (gregory brown)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: ReRe: Contesting
Date: 17 Dec 1995 20:56:50 GMT
Organization: University of Nebraska--Lincoln
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Jerry Gardner ([e-mail]) wrote:

: Not flame bait at all. Just my experience with the local contesters.
: They all look like poster boys for the American Heart Association
: with their enormous beer guts, quadruple chins, and fat butts.

Well, yes, many hams fit that description...not just contesters.  As a
matter of fact, many *people* fit that description...and they're not
contesters (or even *hams*) either.

: As for couch potatoing, I don't even own a couch or TV. I'd much rather
: spend my time bicycling or skiing.

Granted there's not much on TV worth watching, and couches are not
really necessary...but you don't own either??  Come on, your
credibility is slipping.

: What's wrong, Greg, did my comments hit too close to home?

Hardly, Jerry.  No double chin, good heart, quite active, and I can
see my belt-buckle without bending over.  I can also sit at an
operating position for several hours, developing and using some pretty
well-honed listening and operating skills to maximize rates and
multipliers under some pretty adverse conditions.

No, it isn't like running a marathon, but it certainly is more active
and demanding than sitting on a couch, drinking beer, and watching
football.

: Jerry Gardner          | Maintainer of the Large Format Digest
                                             ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
This title sounds like a euphemism for Over-Eaters Anonymous...
Are you sure you don't own a couch???  :-)

Greg


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From: [e-mail] (Clay Irving)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Amateur Radio Reference Web site
Date: 17 Dec 1995 11:42:59 -0500
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The Amateur Radio Reference has been updated -- Users of Netscape 2.0 and
Microsoft Internet Explorer 2.0 will have the best viewing pleasure. The
new Table of Contents is:

                         -Amateur Radio References
                              - Callbook Servers
                              - Laws, Rules and Regulations
                         -Clubs
                              - USA University Clubs
                              - Canadian University Clubs
                              - Foreign University Clubs
                              - USA Clubs
                              - Canadian Clubs
                              - Foreign Clubs
                         -Emergency Communications
                         -Events
                              - Conventions, Fests, Swap Meets
                              - Testing
                         -Media
                              - Books
                              - Magazines
                         -Packet Radio
                         -Products and Suppliers
                         -Scanning
                         -Shortwave/DX
                         -Slow Scan TV
                         -Space

The Amateur Radio Reference, http://www.panix.com/clay/ham/

73s,

--
 See the happy moron,
 He doesn't give a damn,           Clay Irving, N2VKG ([e-mail])
 I wish I were a moron,            http://www.panix.com/clay
 My God! perhaps I am!


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From: [e-mail] (Christopher K Greenhalgh)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.policy
Subject: Re: Reverse autopatch control op
Date: 17 Dec 1995 22:51:09 GMT
Organization: The Ohio State University
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In article <4b1r2q$sm6$[e-mail]>,
Hans Brakob  <[e-mail]> wrote:

>   A couple of folks have suggested here that the operator
>"answering" a reverse-phone patch becomes the control
>operator of the repeater and that the control link is
>via the input frequency.  If the repeater is on 2-meters,
>this method doesn't pass muster with FCC. Here is why.
>--
>   1. During third-party traffic, there must be a control
>operator present at a control point. [97.115(b)(1)
>and 97.109(e)]
>   2. The control point may be local (at the repeater)
>or remote (via wireline or radio). [97.109(b) and (c)]
>   3. If the control link is via radio, the control link
>must use an auxiliary station. [97.213(a)]
>   4. An auxiliary station must operate above 222.15MHz.
>[97.201(b)]
>   5. The input frequency of a 2-meter repeater is
>below 222.15MHz, thus it fails point 4, and the whole
>idea falls apart.
>--
>73, de Hans, K0HB

Your assuming the "control point" (as you outline in quotes 1, and 2) is
the same as the "control link" (as in quotes 3, and 4). This is not
correct.

73, and happy holidays.



--
  +=================================+===================================+
  |Christopher K. Greenhalgh, N8WCT |[e-mail] |
  |Electronic/Computer Tech. @ OSU  |radio: n8wct@w8cqk.#cmh.oh.usa.noam|

  +=================================+===================================+


From Unknown Thu Dec 21 20:37:28 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Joe Mack)
Subject: Re: Spread-Spectrum questions
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Organization: Frederick Cancer Research and Development Center
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Date: Mon, 18 Dec 1995 15:54:27 GMT
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In article <4auqj9$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Per-Tore Aasestra
nd) writes:
>I understand that spread-spectrum techniques will allow the
>transmission/reception of signals that are basically 'hidden' in the
>background noise. I wonder how far it actually is possible to go.

Just to give some perspective -
According to an article I just read, radio astronomers recover signals
a -80db S/N. Of course they integrate for a long time.

In theory there is no limit to the amount of spreading you put on the signal,
it is just refolded back into baseband-bandwidth on receive


>How
>high can the so-called 'processing-gain' be? Will it be possible to
>recover signals that are just under the receiver noise-floor?

The signal from GPS satellites is spread and is received below the noise
floor (how much I don't know)

>Some
>popular discussion of SS are making statements that are not well
>founded and difficult to believe.

agreed

>
>I have also heard that SS radio is more able to penetrate obstacles
>like concrete walls etc. This was in an article about indoor wireless
>LANs. If this is a fact, what are the actual reasons for this?

No more so than any other radio signal

Joe NA3T
[e-mail]





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From: [e-mail]
Newsgroups: rec.radio.info,rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: ARLB112 Spread spectrum changes
Followup-To: rec.radio.amateur.misc
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SB QST @ ARL $ARLB112
ARLB112 Spread spectrum changes

ZCZC AG79
QST de W1AW
ARRL Bulletin 112  ARLB112
From ARRL Headquarters
Newington CT  December 19, 1995
To all radio amateurs

SB QST ARL ARLB112
ARLB112 Spread spectrum changes

The ARRL has asked the Federal Communications Commission to relax
its spread-spectrum regulations to give Amateur Radio more
opportunity to contribute to spread-spectrum development.  The
League's petition for rulemaking, filed in December, seeks relaxed
restrictions on spreading sequences and greater flexibility in
spreading modulation.  The spread-spectrum technique, which
distributes information among several synchronized frequencies
within a band at the transmitter and reassembles the information at
the receiver, was first approved for Amateur Radio in 1985 for bands
above 225 MHz, and there has been some experimental amateur
operation since then.

The petition proposes that the FCC permit brief test spread-spectrum
transmissions and allow international spread-spectrum communications
between amateurs in the US and those in countries that permit hams
to use spread-spectrum techniques.  The current rules allow only
domestic communication.  The petition also asks for automatic
power-control provisions to insure use of minimum necessary power to
conduct spread-spectrum communication and limit the potential for
interference to narrowband modes.  The petition does not ask for any
changes in frequency restrictions on SS emissions, the 100 watt
power limit or logging and identification requirements.

In urging the FCC to adopt the changes, the League's petition calls
the proposals the minimum necessary changes in order to foster SS
experimentation in the Amateur Service.
NNNN
/EX


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From: [e-mail] (Edward Addy)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Like during the Gulf War some Ham help is needed.
Date: 21 Dec 1995 00:26:13 GMT
Organization: N. American Cntr. for Emerg. Comms.
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You may remember our communications project during the Gulf War
called "The Desert Voices Project", which handled thousands of
messages and phone patched, with the help of over 100 volunteers
from the Amateur Radio community.

We have just started another military family support project
named " Mission Bosnian Bridge".  The communications center
being developed for this project will be perminant where as the
Desert Voices project was constructed on leased government land.

This mission is again to help provide communications support this time
between our military serving in Bosnia and their families bach here at
home.

This mission, started November 29th, has been covered by CNN and AP
thus far.

I sure could use the help of some of you in supporting our troops
and their families.  It is a huge undertaking.

Please let me know if you or your Amateur Radio Club would be
interested help us give the gift of military family communications.

More information can be found on "Mission Bosnian Bridge" in our
web site at:

        http://www.nacec.org/bosnia.html

Our Main Page is:  http://www.nacec.org

Please contact me by E-mail if you feel you can help.
I can be reached by E-mail at: [e-mail]

Thanks in advance for caring enough to come forward to help.

Edward Addy / KE0EG
Executive Director
The North American Center For
Emergency Communications.  (NACEC)
P.O. Box 23057
Minneapolis, MN  55423
1-612-798-4269


From Unknown Thu Dec 21 20:37:32 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Joe Cira)
Subject: HAM-INFO-LINK-SOURCE-BBS
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest)
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Date: Thu, 21 Dec 1995 01:51:35 GMT
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Sender: [e-mail]

HELLO FELLOW HAMS:and FUTURE HAMS !!!!!!!

HAM BBS dedicated to amateur radio !!!!

There is a DEVOTED AMATEUR RADIO BBS in town ,from your
ARRL/LAX  affiliated club coordinator , JOE CIRA , KB6AXK ...........
Everything and anything about AMATEUR RADIO will be found here,
IF NOT ? Let me know and we will post it and file it !!!!!!!!


        HAM*INFO*LINK*SOURCE BBS at 1-818-584-1952....
        24 hrs,8-n-1,anyspeed.......
        running 486/66 with 2.1 gig of space !!!
        cd/rom's soon and TNC/PACKET DOOR IS UP & RUNNING !!!
        qsl route database,clubs,newsletters,bulletins,shareware,utility
        mods,programs,test ques,lists,software and much more....
        VEC/VE exam & class  list for all So.Cal.
        sample exam tests and answers for all class's..
        ARRL mirror of all there files !
        Using Wildcat v4.11 software..
        easy to log in and no FEE's it's FREE !
        5,800 FILES IN 115 FILE AREA'S..so far !
***GOOD NEWS THE LANDLINE TO HAM PACKET DOOR IS UP AND RUNNING**********
        ARE YOU ON THE HAM USERS LIST ???????


73's & 88's de kb6axk,joe cira,ARRL/LAX/ACC.
INTERNET E-MAIL ADDRESS:> [e-mail]

/EX
S









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US AMATEUR RADIO  |sysop of the HAM*INFO*LINK*SOURCE BBS|
KB6AXK            | at 1-818-584-1952,joe cira          |
PASADENA,CAL,91107|     [e-mail]               |


From Unknown Thu Dec 21 20:37:33 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Robert C. Martin)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Stupid Ramsey Tricks
Date: Mon, 18 Dec 1995 05:12:13 GMT
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[e-mail] (Gary V. Deutschmann, Sr.) wrote:

>Within 1/4 mile of my home is a nightclub with live entertainment and
>gigawatt outdoor speakers, that I can plainly hear in my basement.
>The band uses all wireless microphones, on about 7 different
>frequencies and several infrared devices to put on their show.

>Using my scanner (with an attenuator), I have pinpointed each
>frequency for each mike and have been purposly disrupting their show.
>Why, because during their show, my 2-meter rigs are useless, our
>cordless telephone is useless and our TV changes channels, the volume
>goes up and down and several other settings keep changing.  Like the
>energizer bunny goes from pink to deep purple to green, from their
>infrared devices!!!

>They have altered and upped the power of their equipment, it is no
>longer type accepted, the FCC could care less.

>One of the frequencies they are using for their cordless microphones
>falls in at 146.850 the output frequency of our local repeater.  I
>just live close enough to them, that I am able to override their mikes
>signal by transmitting on the repeater output using about 50 watts and
>swinging my beam right down their throat.

>They finally quit using that mike at this gig.  Mission accomplished!
>Now to fry their speakers somehow!

>Gary


Frankly, Gary, I sympathize with the tough situation that you are in.
However, intentional and malicious interference is not the answer.
Just because this nightclub is breaking the law that is no excuse for
you to do the same.

I believe that your intentional QRM is not only unethical, but also
illegal.  You might want to consider that before posting on the
internet next time.
≈≈≈≈≈≈≈≈≈≈≈≈≈≈≈≈≈≈≈≈≈≈≈≈≈≈≈≈≈≈≈≈≈≈≈≈≈≈≈≈≈≈≈≈≈≈≈≈≈≈≈≈≈≈≈≈≈≈
≈≈--Bob Martin---⌐[e-mail]----N7JXN
≈≈------Check my FBenterprises Ham Radio Web Page!
≈≈-------http://www.teleport.com/~radio/ham.html
≈≈-Author--"North American Repeater Atlas"-pub. by ARRL
≈≈Opinions Expressed Are Mine and Probably Nobody Elses!
≈≈≈≈≈≈≈≈≈≈≈≈≈≈≈≈≈≈≈≈≈≈≈≈≈≈≈≈≈≈≈≈≈≈≈≈≈≈≈≈≈≈≈≈≈≈≈≈≈≈≈≈≈≈≈≈≈≈



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From: [e-mail] (Roger Lapthorn)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: vlf communications unlicensed
Date: Tue, 19 Dec 1995 13:51:11 GMT
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[e-mail] (David Greene) wrote:


>Hi,

>Does anyone know if there is any activity still in the
>VLF band by unlicensed operators?  I read a magazine once
>called the "Lowfer" or something like that that discussed the
>subject of VLF experimental communications, quite often over
>several hundred miles, by unlicensed experimenters who were
>limited to low power and antennas of less than 50ft.

>At these frequencies, it was noted that natural phenomena generates
>some really strange signals.  One was called a whistler I think and had s
>something to do with a signal getting caught in the earth's magnetic lines
>of force and travelling thousands of miles into space and back.  Something
>like thaty anyways.

>Is anybody out there stillinto this or know of people who still are
>or current sources of information on this radio hobby?

>Please email responses to [e-mail].  I'll also watch
>this newsgroup.

>Thanks,
>Dave
>aa9bi


>--

>Dave Greene          Heurikon Corp.       [phone]

Dave, I can only speak for the UK. Here there are moves to get a
VLF/LF amateur allocation. Frequencies around 73kHz have been
mentioned as has 160-190kHz. I believe there are allocations at the
latter frequencies in the USA, Australia and NZ. Below 10kHz there has
been activity using "Earth Mode" i.e. sending signals through the
ground by conduction fields. Ham range is limited to about 1-2 miles
at very best with signals attenuated in an inverse cubed law with
distance. The military has been using something similar for submarine
links (Project Sanguine et al.) and nuclear hardened sub-surface
links. Below 10kHz you can hear whistlers, tweeks and other wonders
with quite simple gear. Whistlers are caused by dispersion of
ligntening pulses along magnetic field lines. The best book to read is
by Helliwell written in 1964 called "Whistlers and Related Ionospheric
Phenomena". Read my article in Radio Communications (RSGB) April 1975
for a list of other references on the subject and a bit on "earth
mode". I also did a further article in the early 1980s on a VLF
converter but there are better solutions now.
73s
Roger (G3XBM  WWW at   http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/g3xbm)



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From: [e-mail] (Kein{nen Paul)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Q: How is the badwidth for PR calculated?
Date: 17 Dec 1995 20:10:09 +0200
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"Martin Biallas" <[e-mail]> wrote:

> My question is:   How can you calculate the needed bandwidth by knowing
                                              ======
> only the baud rate?
  ====


If you are interested in the minimum _needed_ bandwidth, this restricts
the choice of modulation method to a few spectrally efficient methodes,
with quite similar figure-of-merrits.

> Could it be this:     x baud = x Hz  ? For example, transmission speed =
> 1200 baud, means badwidth of 1200 Hz?

The figure of merrit is usually 1.0 to 1.6 Hz/baud, so for a 1200 _baud_
system, the _needed_ bandwidth is something between 1200 Hz and 1920 Hz.

Note that if you are actually talking about 1200 bit/s systems, the figure
of merrit for 2 level systems are usually 1.0 to 1.6 Hz/bit/s and for
4 level systems 0.5 to 0.8 Hz/bit/s or in this case 600 to 960 Hz.
Usually, the figure-of-merrit is expressed in Hz/bit/s and not Hz/baud.

> Actually I don t know if my question is located in the right newsgroup
> here, but I think my question can be answered from a (PR) HAM operator.
> Essential knowledge only ... :)

However, if you are interested how much bandwidth is _used_ by the
current 1200 bit/s AFSK (F2E) packet radio system, then this is a
completely different question.

The modem in the TNC was originally designed for the 300 Hz to 3400 Hz
telephone circuit and when this audio signal is used to modulate the
FM-transmitter, the occupied bandwidth is practically the same as for
normal speech (about 16 kHz when 25 kHz channel spacing is used). Since
two level modulation is used, 1200 bit/s is 1200 bauds, the figure-of-
merrit is 13.3 Hz/baud or 13.3 Hz/bit/s.

This system uses about 10 times more bandwidth than is really needed
for 1200 baud transmission and since the receiver bandwidth is so wide,
10 times more transmitter power is required compared to the optimum case.

I do not know if you wanted to know how much bandwidth is really needed
or how much is actually used, but I hope that this has answered both cases.

                Paul OH3LWR

--
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Internet: [e-mail]                      FIN-33200 TAMPERE
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From: [e-mail] (Craig Stimson)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: The Origin of "HAM"  (complete article)
Date: Wed, 20 Dec 1995 04:21:27 GMT
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Got a few replys about the article The Origin of "HAM". So we decided
to post it. The article was found in the TFM Newletter of Summer '94
and was written by Marty Shaw VE3TJ.

THE ORIGIN OF "HAM"...it goes something like this:

The word "HAM was applied in 1908 and was the call letters of the
first amateur radio club. Albert Hyman, Bob Almy and Peggy Murray
first called their station HYMAN-ALMY-MURRAY, but in code it was
tedious so they changed it to HYALMU. But confusion resulted between
signals from HYALMU and a Mexican ship, MYALMO. They decided to use
only the first letters of each name and identify as HAM. In those
early unregulated days, amateurs picked their own frequencies and
calls. Then as now some amateurs had better signals than some
commercial stations. The resulting interference finally came to the
attention of Washington, who proposed legislation critically limiting
amateur activity.

In 1911, Albert Hyman chose the controversial Wireless Regulaton Bill
as the topic of his thesis at Harvard. His instructor insisted a copy
be sent to Senator David Walsh, a member of the committee hearing the
bill. Walsh was so impressed that he sent for Hyman who went on the
stand and described how the little station HAM was built, and he
almost cried when he told the crowded committee room that if the bill
succeeded they would have to shut down because they could not afford
the license fees and other requirements set up in the bill. The debate
started and the little station HAM became a symbol of all the amateur
stations in the country that were crying out to be saved from the
menace and greed of the big commercial stations who didn't want them
around. Finally the bill got to the floor of Congress, and every
speaker talked about the little station HAM.

That's how it all got started. You can find the whole story in the USA
Congressional Record. Nationwide publicity identified the station HAM
with amateurs. From that time to this, and probably to the end of
time, in radio..."Every amateur is a HAM"

END

Well there it is folks. For those who have not read it already it
might make an interesting contribution to your local Amateur Club
newsletter.

73
Craig

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
+  Craig Stimson                         +
+  E-mail: [e-mail]           +
+  AX.25 : VA3DCS@VE3ZRD.#SCON.ON.CA.NA  +
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From: [e-mail] (Cary Oler)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: NEW WWW RADIO PROPAGATION AND IONOSPHERIC SERVICES AVAILABLE
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                   /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\

                           ADMINISTRATIVE BULLETIN

                   NEW WWW RADIO PROPAGATION AND IONOSPHERIC
                             SERVICES AVAILABLE

                   /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\


NEW WWW RADIO PROPAGATION AND IONOSPHERIC SERVICES ARE NOW AVAILABLE

                         http://solar.uleth.ca/solar

     Our main homepage has been supplemented with several new ionospheric
services that should be of wide interest to radio communicators (amateur and
professional).

     Every hour, approximately 15 to 20 minutes past each hour, our system
regenerates five real-time globally contoured maps of various important and
useful quantities:

          1. Global Maximum Usable Frequency Maps.
             (http://solar.uleth.ca/solar/www/realtime.html)

          2. Global Maps of the F2-Layer Critical (Penetration) Frequency.
             (http://solar.uleth.ca/solar/www/fof2.html)

          3. Global Maps of the E-Layer Critical (Penetration) Frequency (foE)
.
             (http://solar.uleth.ca/solar/www/foe.html)

          4. Global Maps showing the Height Maximum of the F2 Layer (or the
             altitude above the surface of the Earth where the ionospheric
             electron density is highest).  Information regarding the
             likelihood of non-great-circle propagation can also be determined
.
             (http://solar.uleth.ca/solar/www/hmf2.html)

          5. Global Maps of Solar Zenith Angles, or the distance of the Sun
             away from the zenith (the point in the sky that is exactly
             overhead).  Shows the elevation angle of the Sun above or below
             the horizon for any location on the Earth.
             (http://solar.uleth.ca/solar/www/zenith.html)

     Each map includes the plotted solar terminator (sunrise/sunset line), the
gray-line corridor where the Sun is up to 12-degrees below the horizon, the
location where the Sun is directly overhead, and the locations of the auroral
ovals based on the latest 24-hour planetary A-index (updated every 3 hours).

     To our knowledge, these services form one of the most extensive set of
near-real-time maps pertinent to radio propagation and radio navigation on the
Internet.


**  End of Bulletin  **


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From: [e-mail] (Gary V. Deutschmann, Sr.)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Stupid Ramsey Tricks
Date: Sun, 17 Dec 1995 21:11:08 GMT
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[e-mail] (James D. Cronin) wrote:


>Thanks to KE2DI for catching this one...

>On page 3 of the new Ramsey catalog, check out the "FM-6 Crystal Controlled
>FM Wireless Mike Kit...$39.95."  To quote the catalog:

>"For super stable drift free transmission, the FM-6 is the ticket!  Most
>low cost FM mikes are tuneable...  The FM-6 frequency is set by a crystal
>of 144.00 MHz, easily picked up on any scanner radio."
>   ^^^^^^^^^^
>A toy wireless mike on the 2-meter band.  In the weak signal part, too.
>What will they think of next?  It gets even better...

>"Changing the crystal allows you to change frequency anywhere in the
>140 to 160 MHz range..."

>Hey kids, let's put it on a public saftey frequency.  For more
>Stupid Ramsey Tricks, check page 26, 'Yagi Antennas'...  Covers 140-300 (!)
>or 300-500 (!!) MHz.  "Talk about a match, even our $1800 EMI antenna couldn'
t
>come close to one of Joe's antennas."  Of course the EMI antenna is
>made for flat response, but why let facts get in the way?

>And on page 24 they still carry the PA-1 2-meter power amp kit.  This gem
>is a 40 watt class C amp with almost no output filtering.

>73..Jim N2VNO
Within 1/4 mile of my home is a nightclub with live entertainment and
gigawatt outdoor speakers, that I can plainly hear in my basement.
The band uses all wireless microphones, on about 7 different
frequencies and several infrared devices to put on their show.

Using my scanner (with an attenuator), I have pinpointed each
frequency for each mike and have been purposly disrupting their show.
Why, because during their show, my 2-meter rigs are useless, our
cordless telephone is useless and our TV changes channels, the volume
goes up and down and several other settings keep changing.  Like the
energizer bunny goes from pink to deep purple to green, from their
infrared devices!!!

They have altered and upped the power of their equipment, it is no
longer type accepted, the FCC could care less.

One of the frequencies they are using for their cordless microphones
falls in at 146.850 the output frequency of our local repeater.  I
just live close enough to them, that I am able to override their mikes
signal by transmitting on the repeater output using about 50 watts and
swinging my beam right down their throat.

They finally quit using that mike at this gig.  Mission accomplished!
Now to fry their speakers somehow!

Gary




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From: Dave Hand <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Stupid Ramsey Tricks
Date: 19 Dec 1995 16:26:35 GMT
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[e-mail] (Robert C. Martin) wrote:
>
> [e-mail] (Gary V. Deutschmann, Sr.) wrote:
>
> >Within 1/4 mile of my home is a nightclub with live entertainment and
> >gigawatt outdoor speakers, that I can plainly hear in my basement.
> >The band uses all wireless microphones, on about 7 different
> >frequencies and several infrared devices to put on their show.
>
> >Using my scanner (with an attenuator), I have pinpointed each
> >frequency for each mike and have been purposly disrupting their show.
> >Why, because during their show, my 2-meter rigs are useless, our
> >cordless telephone is useless and our TV changes channels, the volume
> >goes up and down and several other settings keep changing.  Like the
> >energizer bunny goes from pink to deep purple to green, from their
> >infrared devices!!!
>
> >They have altered and upped the power of their equipment, it is no
> >longer type accepted, the FCC could care less.
>
> >One of the frequencies they are using for their cordless microphones
> >falls in at 146.850 the output frequency of our local repeater.  I
> >just live close enough to them, that I am able to override their mikes
> >signal by transmitting on the repeater output using about 50 watts and
> >swinging my beam right down their throat.
>
> >They finally quit using that mike at this gig.  Mission accomplished!
> >Now to fry their speakers somehow!
>
> >Gary
>
>
> Frankly, Gary, I sympathize with the tough situation that you are in.
> However, intentional and malicious interference is not the answer.
> Just because this nightclub is breaking the law that is no excuse for
> you to do the same.
>
> I believe that your intentional QRM is not only unethical, but also
> illegal.  You might want to consider that before posting on the
> internet next time.
> ≈≈≈≈≈≈≈≈≈≈≈≈≈≈≈≈≈≈≈≈≈≈≈≈≈≈≈≈≈≈≈≈≈≈≈≈≈≈≈≈≈≈≈≈≈≈≈≈≈≈≈≈≈≈≈≈≈≈
> ≈≈--Bob Martin---⌐[e-mail]----N7JXN
> ≈≈------Check my FBenterprises Ham Radio Web Page!
> ≈≈-------http://www.teleport.com/~radio/ham.html
> ≈≈-Author--"North American Repeater Atlas"-pub. by ARRL
> ≈≈Opinions Expressed Are Mine and Probably Nobody Elses!
> ≈≈≈≈≈≈≈≈≈≈≈≈≈≈≈≈≈≈≈≈≈≈≈≈≈≈≈≈≈≈≈≈≈≈≈≈≈≈≈≈≈≈≈≈≈≈≈≈≈≈≈≈≈≈≈≈≈≈
>

I am with Gary .... I dont believe the intentional QRM restrictions
protect illeagal operators. The FCC has been emasculated and cant
follow up on all the minor complaints they get so his solution is
IMHO reasonable!


Dave hand WB4HYP
[e-mail]




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From: [e-mail](Jon Shay )
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: 3.88 MHz sounded like CB tonight. Yuck
Date: 19 Dec 1995 16:17:43 GMT
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In <Pine.BSD/[e-mail]> "Edwin
J. Bailen (& sometimes Irene Beattie)" <[e-mail]> writes:
>
>On 14 Dec 1995, Michael P. Deignan wrote:
>
>> Date: 14 DEC 1995 00:12:16 -0500
>> From: Michael P. Deignan <[e-mail]>
>> Newgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
>> Subject: Re: 3.88 MHz sounded like CB tonight. Yuck
>>
>> In article <49u7h1$[e-mail]>, Bill Nelson <[e-mail]>
wrote:
>>
>> >I know a recent Extra licensee who has never picked
>> >up a soldering iron, and couldn't draw a simple oscillator circuit
if he
>> >had to. His operating ability comes from a box that has no-tune
finals
>> >and a built in autotuner. As long as he has the commercially built
antenna
>> >hooked up to the rig, all he has to do is turn it on, tune to the
frequency
>> >he wishes to use, and transmit.
>> ...
>> >Now, this is an extreme example
>>
>> Extreme example? I've got news for you: In my area, its the *rule*,
not
>> the exception.
>>
>> Your example is exactly the type of "ham" that affirmative-action
amateur
>> radio has yielded to the hobby today. And as the standards are
>> continuously lowered, it will continue to be the type of ham that
gets
>> into the hobby, until one way you'll wake up in the morning and all
>> of a sudden you'll realize that the word "ham" has become synonymous
>> with the description you just put forth.
>>
>> MD
>> --
>> --
>> -- "Who needs looks when you've got taste?"
>> --
>>
>>
>My father-in-law (W9OIB) was wondering why 160 meters wasn't quite as
bad as
>the other bands. My personal opinion is that the only think protecting

>top band is the lack of off-the-shelf solutions (especially those that
fit on
>city lots).
>
>   Ed Bailen -- N5KZW  /  Irene Beattie -- KA5DYF (on a 10-acre
hilltop)
>          His religion?  Geek Orthodox!
>
Anyone for a Kleenex?...WAAAAAAA!
KC5MOP



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From: [e-mail] (David R Tucker)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Can a Green Card holder be a ham?
Date: 19 Dec 1995 23:16:46 -0500
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Michael Crestohl ([e-mail]) wrote:

: Say I operated A3 in the 40m "Canadian Phone Band" from a Canadian location
: and was heard my a F.C.C. Monitoring station.  I could receive a Notice of
: Violation for an infraction of Part 97 in the U.S. radio regs which prohibit
s
: me from using A3 in that part of the band.  How would I reply to it?

Assuming you signed properly as a reciprocal operator in Canada, you
simply say that the FCC has no jurisdiction over radio emissions from
Canada and cite Appendix 1 to Part 97.  Of course, if you use a
Canadian license, you're quite safe.  If you forget the reciprocal ID,
I suppose you deserve the pink slip, but you'll probably be able to
prove you were outside US jurisdiction by testimony, but in that case,
Canada could clearly cite you for improper ID.

: Also consider this:  I hold a Canadian license which allows me A3 on 14.125
: but I am prohibited from using this mode on this frequency in the U.S.

: How would you reply to this?

In the US, of course, you are subject to FCC jurisdiction and cannot
use phone on 14.125, no matter what your operator authorization.  See
97.107(a)(3).

: Now, here is a question for you.  I hold dual nationality - Canada and U.S.A
.
: Do I have reciprocal operating rights in Canada?  What about when I was
: a Canadian citizen living in the U.S. as a Permanent Resident Alien and
: had a U.S. license?  Would I be allowed to use the U.S. license in Canada
: even though I am eligible to hold a Canadian license?

Canada: GR2 45(1)(a) requires you to be a citizen and resident of the
US for reciprocal privileges.  Since that seems to be true, your US
license is valid in Canada.  I see nothing that strips you of
privileges if you also have a Canadian license, still less if you are
"eligible."  (Actually, the Canadian gov't officials I talked to seem
to have better things to do than worry about your citizenship and
residence, but there it is.)

US: This one is tricky.  US citizens are not eligible for a reciprocal
permit by 97.5(d)(5).  Holders of FCC amateur licenses are also barred
from receiving a reciprocal permit (well, actually, it merely provides
no privileges) by 97.107(b).  *However,* Canadian licensees do not
need reciprocal operating permits (see 97.5(b)(6)) and apparently
aren't deemed to have them, since their privilege grant is entirely
separate in the rules (97.107(a)) and their station authority
(97.5(b)(6)) is entirely separate from those who do hold those
permits.  The only requirement for Canadian license reciprocity is
that the licensee be a citizen of Canada (Id.), perhaps because of the
way the treaty is written (see TIAS 2508, Article III).  So, in my
opinion, the letter of the law *does allow* dual US-Canadian citizens
to use a Canadian license in the US.  It's not really the spirit,
though.  (If you have an Extra, why bother?) (P.S. does the FCC care
quite so much, either?)

-drt

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From Unknown Thu Dec 21 20:37:48 1995
Path: news.epix.net!uunet!in2.uu.net!news.cybercomm.net!usenet
From: [e-mail] (Stephan Rashkin)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: No-Code = Affirmative Action
Date: Sat, 16 Dec 1995 05:33:08 GMT
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Globber <[e-mail]> wrote:

>..I remember having to draw schematics of circuits
>>and have an understanding of basic circuits and operation..Yup
>>amateur radio is going down the tubes..mainly because of those
>>that don't feel it's worth any "devotion" and "sweat"...I have lost
>>lots of respect for ham radio, because of those that feel ham
>>radio doesn't deserve any devotion or that fellow amateurs are
>>are not part of a special group...And as I and others lose our
>>respect of amateur radio, you can expect more jamming, cursing
>>etc..because it will have transformed itself to the lower forms of CB.

>>Steve, WA2NHZ

>You are totally correct Steve thanks to people like
>you Ham radio is going down the tubes.
>Only understanding basic ckts. and havbing a basic knowledge
>of electronics.
>I spent 5 years of my life in the USAF in Ground Radio
> I can set up and repair all of the Equipment needed for an
>airport including the radar. I have worked more Hf than most
>hams. But since iam not devoted enough to learn the code
>as you say, i should not be ham. I dont think your devoted
>enough to the electronics side of ham radio, so
>you really shouldn't be a ham either.
>Lets raise those cushy electronic standards !!!!!
>AND GET REALLY DEVOTED!!!!
>                   Globber


Dear Globbey,
I have been in electronics for most of my life..I started building
transmitters and receivers over 37 years ago..I have worked in
the 2-way radio field and the broadcast field (engineering and
repair) I worked in military ECM, PMEL, as well as being
in a flight crew..I have had a 2nd Class Radiotelegraph as
well as a 1st Class Radiotelephone class license with radar
endorsement I have gone from novice and then through the ranks
to extra taking exams in person at the FCC with real exams when you
still had to explain in essay form and draw schematics...I am now a
VLSI electronic engineer designing high density propriatory Ic's and
circuit integration for biomedical robotic platforms...I still
homebrew, and love playing with boatanchors..I have a private
pilots license and do aviation radio repair part time at a local
depot..(also did some at old Dow AFB when in A&E squadron).

...oh yes by the way I spent 3 years just in South East
Asia while in the USAF.( Vietnam Era) .and not as a "road guard"
I tried never to miss more that a  day on Hf ham radio, even
if it was from the cockpit of a B52..

So Globber, tell me all about my electronics side of ham radio..
It's a shame you were caught assuming so much...and we all
know about assuming don't we?
Tell me again how I'm not devoted to the "electronics side" of
radio...Then I'll tell you about presumptuous pups! I love a good
laugh....

Steve, WA2NHZ






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From: [e-mail] (Gary V. Deutschmann, Sr.)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Hams who ignore "newbies"
Date: Sun, 17 Dec 1995 20:57:06 GMT
Organization: Inlink
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[e-mail] wrote:


>What follows is a message from a guy that asked for your help. All you
>"helpful" hams ignored him. He did not like my answer but at least I
>paid him some attention

>Burt, K1OIK.




>        Hello k1oik !

>You wrote in a Mail about 'Re: Q: What means "HAM"??' this:


>k> BI>BF> Ham means fat, white, lazy intelligent white MAN.


>As I wrote my simple and honest question in the newsgroup I thought I
>would get lots of answers. At least ten or twenty. Yes, I really thought it,
>because the word "HAM" is used so often. Meanwhile I naerly can even use
>the word when talking about radio amateurs, but still I don t know what it
>means.
>Fact is I have got no answer on my question   -except yours! But,
>please forgive me this, your answer is not very helpful.

>If I had been a film director, and you had been an actor in my film,
>then I would have given you the roll of the oracle. ;-)


>Hope to get your next riddle soon!

>Bye ...

>        Martin

>--
>*******************************************************************
>*  Message Sent From:   CCS WORLD  Cape Cod's Internet Address    *
>*  http://ccsnet.com  Telnet://ccsnet.com  Ftp://unix.ccsnet.com  *
>*  Games: TW2002, VGA Planets, 4 Player DOOM, Game Connection     *

FWIW:  I for one replied to that post with an article taken right out
of the FAQ about the word HAM.  It's possible origin and a few diverse
acceptable meanings.

I have no control over what posts eventually make it to the newsgroups
and which one's fail enroute.
There have been times when I have not seen replies to posts appear for
more than 8 days after the original reply was posted.
And, In addition, know of newsreaders that automatically do not accept
posts over a certain length and/or kill them.

There is one newsgroup in-particular that I post to on every single
Friday, without fail.
Numerous readers who do get the newsgroup complain that they have
never seen a single post in this newsgroup.

So before you start blaming fellow HAMS for not responding to a post,
you might inquire as to whether anyone placed a post that the
newsreaders did not pickup, first!

Gary - KG0ZP





From Unknown Wed Dec 27 18:37:12 1995
Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!whidbey.!usenet
From: [e-mail] (DAVE M . SCHERTZER)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: $$$ Buyers B E W A R E  - VE7-EXG $$$ !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Date: 24 Dec 1995 19:19:40 GMT
Organization: DND  CF DET Whidbey Is. WA
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When buying New/Used equip from Frank be sure you
perform an operational check on the equip. Be sure
and verify that ALL of the options that he says are
"installed" are actually in the equip in question.

I bought a Icom V68 HT in which he told me the CTCSS
tone board was installed. I took his word as a fellow
ham. To my dismay, I later discovered that NO CTCSS was
installed!!!

When I contacted Frank he was very rude and told me that I
should have known better and that CTCSS was an option, not
standard. I knew that it was an option and specifically
asked if it was installed as the radio was useless to me
without the option. He told me it was installed!!!

Franks told me that If I wanted any refund that  would have
meet him in Burnaby BC, a 6hr drive from my location. Not much
of a solution, eh?

So,take this into consideration if you are thinking about making
a purchase from Frank.


 de  VE7-LFA/W7






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From: /PN=Scott.C.Werling/O=wallace/PRMD=iadps/ADMD=attmail/C=us/@safe.ia.GOV
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Date: 26 Dec 95 17:11:06 GMT
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>From /PN=Scott.C.Werling/O=wallace/PRMD=iadps/ADMD=attmail/C=us/ Tue Dec 26 1
1:17:49 CST 1995 remote from osiint.safe.ia.gov
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> Date: 21 Dec 1995 18:04:26 GMT
> From: Hans Brakob <[e-mail]>
> Subject: HELP: slash through zero font
>
> >Does anybody know what font has the slash through the zero?<
>
> If you're talking about Windows, almost all of them have
> it.  Hold down the <alt> key, and type "0216" (without
> quotes) on the number pad.
>
> 73, de Hans, K0HB
>
> --
Using the keypad press 0 in the first box, then ATL+0216 in second box, click
on the box MATCH CASE, then click on replace all.  This is in windows under
the EDIT pull down menu.
Scott N0XZY
[e-mail]



From Unknown Wed Dec 27 18:37:14 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Fred)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: ...TEKTRONIX OSCILLOSCOPE...
Date: Mon, 25 Dec 95 19:29:37 GMT
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I have a TEKTRONIX model 2215 scope for sale. It is a 60mhz bandwidth and dual

trace with dual time bases giving you 4 traces to look at. It has delayed
sweep and many other features. I paid $1400 + for it and I will sell it for
$750. Got into computers and haven't had a need for it. Fred


From Unknown Wed Dec 27 18:37:15 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Eric Oyen)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: 10 meters dead? NOT!
Date: Wed, 27 Dec 1995 08:18:38 GMT
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Organization: ArizonaONE
Distribution: world
Lines: 11

Well folks,
I just read a message that indicated that 10 meters was as "dead as the
proverbial doorknob". I think not! I have listened for the last 2 days
during the christmas holidays and found 6 meters, 10 meters, 12,15, AND
20 extremely active. WAKE UP AND SMELL THE COFFEE, PEOPLE!!! Its out
there and if you don't use it, the FCC will give it to someone that
will!

Signed..

Eric Oyen (N7ZZT)


From Unknown Wed Dec 27 18:37:16 1995
Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!news.voicenet.com!news
From: Ray <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: 10 meters dead? NOT!
Date: 27 Dec 1995 22:38:50 GMT
Organization: Voicenet - Internet Access - [phone]
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NNTP-Posting-Host: ivyland203.voicenet.com

[e-mail] (Eric Oyen) wrote:
>
> Well folks,
> I just read a message that indicated that 10 meters was as "dead as the
> proverbial doorknob". I think not! I have listened for the last 2 days
> during the christmas holidays and found 6 meters, 10 meters, 12,15, AND
> 20 extremely active. WAKE UP AND SMELL THE COFFEE, PEOPLE!!! Its out
> there and if you don't use it, the FCC will give it to someone that
> will!
>
> Signed..
>
> Eric Oyen (N7ZZT)


I did my part Eric!  Over the holiday weekend, I used my limited HF
priveleges on 10M, speaking with a super guy in Cranston, RI Norm, KD1WD,
while mobile in Eastern Virginia, among others.  Also heard great 6M activity
while in Norfolk, including a gentleman in Havana, Cuba.  (Pileup!)

There were lots of folks on 10 and 6!

73

Ray


From Unknown Wed Dec 27 18:37:18 1995
Path: news.epix.net!uunet!in2.uu.net!prodigy.com!usenet
From: [e-mail] (George Deamicis)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: AEA PK-900-ICOM 736
Date: 25 Dec 1995 13:01:51 GMT
Organization: Prodigy Services Company  1-800-PRODIGY
Lines: 12
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Message-ID: <4bm7bv$[e-mail]>
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X-Newsreader: Version 1.2

Recently purchase a AEA DSP 232 but will not get it until January
sometime.
Looking to prewire the DIN PLUG on ACC-1 of the ICOM 736 to the PK 900
which is the same as the DSP 232. Has anyone done this and if so which is
which? Any other suggestions would be appriceated. Thanks ahead of time.


           73 GEORGE

            N1JGE




From Unknown Wed Dec 27 18:37:19 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Stephen T MacGregor)
Newsgroups: alt.usage.english,sci.lang,rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Alpha Bravo phonetics: the quickie version
Followup-To: alt.usage.english,sci.lang,rec.radio.amateur.misc
Date: 26 Dec 1995 02:40:35 GMT
Organization: Esperantujo
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Tajpis lastatempe Jim Weir jene:

>I prefer mine:

>aeon, bdellium, cereal, Djakarta, euphoria, futtock, gin, hour, Ian,
                 ^__ ctenoid                  gnome __^ iocentric __^
>jalepeno, knee, llama, mnemonic, ngami, Oedipus, phosphorus, Quito,
                                                  ^__ pneumonia ^__ quebec
>Roentgen, sforzando, Tchaikovsky, uranium, verisimilitude, wretch,
>xylophone, yclept, zloty.

>Additions willcomen.

  You got 'em!

--
--     __Q       Stefano MAC:GREGOR   Mi dankas al miaj bons`ancigaj steloj,
--   -`\<,      (s-ro)  \ma-GREG-ar\       ke mi ne estas superstic`ulo.
--  (*)/ (*)   Fenikso, Arizono, Usono    ==================================
---------------   <http://www.indirect.com/www/stevemac/ttt-hejmo.html>  ---


From Unknown Wed Dec 27 18:37:20 1995
Path: news.epix.net!uunet!in2.uu.net!sunrise.gv.ssi1.com!oronet!news
From: [e-mail] (Jim Weir)
Newsgroups: alt.usage.english,sci.lang,rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Alpha Bravo phonetics: the quickie version
Date: Mon, 25 Dec 1995 21:34:27 GMT
Organization: RST Engineering
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I prefer mine:

aeon, bdellium, cereal, Djakarta, euphoria, futtock, gin, hour, Ian,
jalepeno, knee, llama, mnemonic, ngami, Oedipus, phosphorus, Quito,
Roentgen, sforzando, Tchaikovsky, uranium, verisimilitude, wretch,
xylophone, yclept, zloty.

Additions willcomen.

Jim



Jim Weir VP Engineering  | "We seem to be standing on
RST Engineering          |  the foreskin of technology."
Grass Valley CA 95945    | (Gen. Chuck Yeager)
voice/fax [phone]   |
[e-mail]  AR Adv WB6BHI  CFI A&G/Comml Inst A&G/A&P/C-182A N73CQ



From Unknown Wed Dec 27 18:37:20 1995
Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!news.continuum.net!usenet
From: "Christopher A. Bowne" <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: AM/Military Radio/AWA Hams On The Internet
Date: 23 Dec 1995 15:07:58 GMT
Organization: Continuum Communications Inc.
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NNTP-Posting-Host: cd-19.continuum.net

Just wondering who of us are out here in cyberspace as well as on 75 and 160 m
eters?
Please let me know of any Web Sites or news groups on the following subjects:

AM operation, military radio collecting and restoration, vintage and
antique radio collecting and restoration.

See you all on the AMI 160 Meter Event on December 26th!  Hope Santa leaves
lots of heavy gray, green, and/or black boxes under the tree!

                                        73,

                                        Chris, AJ1G
                                        Stonington, CT



From Unknown Wed Dec 27 18:37:21 1995
Path: news.epix.net!uunet!in2.uu.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!tank.news.pipex.net!pipex!lade.news.pipex.net!pipex!innotts.co.uk!usenet
From: [e-mail] (Jeremy Boot)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.shortwave
Subject: Amateur Radio Homepages
Date: Sat, 23 Dec 1995 16:03:22 GMT
Organization: innotts.co.uk
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Xref: news.epix.net rec.radio.amateur.misc:95946 rec.radio.shortwave:67788

There is a new Ham Radio Homepage at

        http://www.innotts.co.uk/~asperges

with various links elsewhere. I hope you like them.

Happy Christmas!
Jeremy G4NJH
[e-mail]
[Homepage: http://www.innotts.co.uk/~asperges/]



From Unknown Wed Dec 27 18:37:22 1995
Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in2.uu.net!brighton.openmarket.com!decwrl!news.bu.edu!usenet
From: [e-mail] (Mikhail Teterin)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.shortwave
Subject: Antenna recomendation needed
Date: 27 Dec 1995 18:43:24 GMT
Organization: Boston University
Lines: 13
Sender: [e-mail] (Mikhail Teterin)
Message-ID: <4bs44c$[e-mail]>
NNTP-Posting-Host: ppp-71-13.bu.edu
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Xref: news.epix.net rec.radio.amateur.equipment:23122 rec.radio.amateur.misc:96130 rec.radio.shortwave:67982

Some time ago, I asked here for suggestions on how ot get European
(Eastern European) stations in USA (Boston). Quite a few people
tried to help, with directions on how to make an antenna for my
Sony ICF-SW7600G (FM stereo/SW/MW/LW, PLL synthesized world band
receiver).  As time shows, I can not follow their recomendations
myself ): I am not a radio specialist personally. So, I guess, I'll
need to buy an antenna and enjoy fruits like warranty and technical
support (: Here I am with the <subject>...  Thank you very much!

        -mi (Please, CC to [e-mail])
--
        "Has anyone seen my brain around?"



From Unknown Wed Dec 27 18:37:23 1995
Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!news.yab.com!usenet
From: [e-mail] (Mike)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Any way of finding E-Mail addresses of Hams??
Date: 23 Dec 1995 21:20:29 GMT
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Is there a web site that someone could enter a Callsign and then
get e-mail addresses of that person if he/she came on to that page?

If so, please let me know through e-mail or post here.

Thanks in advance,


[e-mail]
http://www.yab.com/~macgyver



From Unknown Wed Dec 27 18:37:24 1995
Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!ionews.ionet.net!usenet
From: Hank Blackstock <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Any way of finding E-Mail addresses of Hams??
Date: 23 Dec 1995 22:17:04 GMT
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To: [e-mail]

Try the following web site:

http://www.qrz.com/cgi-bin/webcall

73 WA5JRH



From Unknown Wed Dec 27 18:37:24 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Stephan Rashkin)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Any way of finding E-Mail addresses of Hams??
Date: Sat, 23 Dec 1995 22:34:33 GMT
Organization: CyberComm Online Services
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[e-mail] (Mike) wrote:


>Is there a web site that someone could enter a Callsign and then
>get e-mail addresses of that person if he/she came on to that page?

>If so, please let me know through e-mail or post here.

>Thanks in advance,


>[e-mail]
>http://www.yab.com/~macgyver

The QRZ ham lookup page has Call + E-mail addresses as long as the
amateur has added his address..

Steve, WA2NHZ




From Unknown Wed Dec 27 18:37:26 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Bill L. Kotarski)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Any way of finding E-Mail addresses of Hams??
Date: 24 Dec 1995 08:15:46 GMT
Organization: The Genesee Free-Net
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X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2]

Mike ([e-mail]) wrote:

> Is there a web site that someone could enter a Callsign and then
> get e-mail addresses of that person if he/she came on to that page?

> If so, please let me know through e-mail or post here.

> Thanks in advance,


> [e-mail]
> http://www.yab.com/~macgyver

http://www.qrz.com

You can lookup a callsign and it has provisions for hams to add their
e-mail address to the CALL SERVER....
While you are there you can add your e-mail address...
Or look up a call and see if that license holder added there E-Mail address
 I just entered mine 4 minutes ago
N8JOS



--
[e-mail]-------------------- [e-mail]
[e-mail][e-mail]
[e-mail]      And Whatever Else You People Call Me
N8JOS--- General Class since 1968   EX-WB8DKR  and WN8DKR



From Unknown Wed Dec 27 18:37:26 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Joel B Levin)
Subject: Re: Any way of finding E-Mail addresses of Hams??
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In <4bhrqt$[e-mail]>,
   Mike <[e-mail] (Mike)> wrote:

|
|Is there a web site that someone could enter a Callsign and then
|get e-mail addresses of that person if he/she came on to that page?
|
|If so, please let me know through e-mail or post here.

Try the QRZ home page: http://www.qrz.com/ should work.

[posted and e-mailed]

        /J
--
Nets: [e-mail]  |  "There were sweetheart roses on Yancey Wilmerding's
  or [e-mail]|  bureau that morning.  Wide-eyed and distraught, she
POTS: [phone]  |  stood with all her faculties rooted to the floor."
ARS:  KD1ON          |                                  -- S. J. Perelman


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From: [e-mail] (Jim Smith)
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Subject: Anyone still using RTTY?
Date: Wed, 20 Dec 95 18:49:53 GMT
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Any RTTY operations on 10 meters? I used to have an old Model 15 and loved to
run RTTY way long ago.

I recently got the RTTY bug again, and am unable to hear any RTTY on 10.
Packet, yes, RTTY no.

Anyone know of any RTTY nets on 10?

Jim N8AVX
[e-mail]


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From: [e-mail] (Daniel Senie)
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Subject: Re: Anyone still using RTTY?
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In article <4b9lpj$[e-mail]>, Jim Smith <[e-mail]> wrote:
)Any RTTY operations on 10 meters? I used to have an old Model 15 and loved to

)run RTTY way long ago.

Plenty of RTTY on the bands. Not much on 10 meters. For the most part, 10
meters is not open. Try 20 meters, between 14.080 and 14.090 most evenings
and you'll hear activity. Try the first full weekend in January and you'll
hear a LOT of RTTY, maybe even on 10 meters, from the ARRL RTTY Roundup
contest.

)
)I recently got the RTTY bug again, and am unable to hear any RTTY on 10.
)Packet, yes, RTTY no.

The common hangout is on 20 meters, except for contest times.

)
)Anyone know of any RTTY nets on 10?

Not aware of any on 10. There are a few on 40 meters.

Dan N1JEB
--
---------------------------------------------------------------
Daniel Senie                 Internet:     [e-mail],
Daniel Senie Consulting                    [e-mail]
http://www.senie.com         Packet Radio: [e-mail]


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From: [e-mail] (Tom Randolph)
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Subject: Re: Anyone work w/ RADAR ?
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In article <4b7j3f$[e-mail]>, Dave Phillips <dphillips@ips
.iac.honeywell.com> writes...
>This little brain dump should get you started.  I had forgotten how much
>I knew about this beast until I started typing.  Hopefully, I haven't
>bored you to tears.

On the contrary, very interesting.
It's neat to hear the details of this stuff, which I've only had a vague
knowledge of for years. You know, "rides a radar beam". That's about as
technical as most books get.

==============================================================================
Tom Randolph  N1OOQ  NE-QRP 419  QRP-L 87  ARRL      [e-mail]
==============================================================================


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SB DX @ ARL $ARLD065
ARLD065 DX news

ZCZC AE41
QST de W1AW
DX Bulletin 65  ARLD065
From ARRL Headquarters
Newington CT  December 22, 1995
To all radio amateurs

SB DX ARL ARLD065
ARLD065 DX news

ARRL DXAC and Awards Committee Agree
Pratas Island goes on ARRL DXCC Countries List

The ARRL DX Advisory Committee (DXAC) has voted 12 to 4, and the
Awards Committee, has voted unanimously to add Pratas Island, BV9P,
for contacts made January 1, 1994 and after.  This is based on DXCC
Rules Section II, Point 2(a) (Separation by Water).  Pratas Island,
located in the South China Sea, is administered by Taiwan.

QSL cards will be received by the DXCC Desk starting April 1, 1996.
Cards received before that date will be returned without action.

Because of QSLing irregularities, it will be necessary for anyone
who has a picture card from the January or March 1994 operation to
obtain a replacement card from QSL manager KU9C.  The picture cards
are not acceptable for DXCC credit.
NNNN
/EX


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From: [e-mail] (David Kazdan Md)
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Subject: Re: Austin Amateur Radio Suppy
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In a previous article, [e-mail] (Jeff Kilgore) says:

>In article <4a2h30$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Jay Hil
lgen) writes:
>|> Gary Borich <[e-mail]> writes:
>|>
>|>
>|> >As a resident of Austin. Texas, who has unfortunately frequented Austin
>|> >Amateur Radio Suppy, I can attest first hand to their surly, impatient,
>|> >and at times down right abrasive attitude.  As a ham for over 40 years,
>|> >I can not ever remember being treated so rudely when asking specific
>|> >questions about an impending purchase.
>|>
>|> WOW!  In the past few years, I've spent about $1200 at this establishment
and
>|> found that their people were friendly and helpful.  As I'm in New Jersey,
I was
>|> never a walk-in customer if that makes any difference.  At least over the
>|> phone, I've had no problems with them.
>|>                                             Jay
>|>                                            N2OTK
>|>
>|>
>|>
>|>
>
>I have spent a few thousand at AARS in the last couple of years, and have
>always received friendly service. I have no complaints, and will return
>there in the future. YMMV, of course.
>
>Jeff, KC1MK
>


Vote here is positive--I have had excellent service from AARS.  So has my
father.


                --David
--
David Kazdan, M.D., Ph.D      [e-mail]; Amateur Radio: AD8Y
Anesthesiologist,
Whitacre Department of Anesthesiology, Meridia Huron Hospital,
     East Cleveland, Ohio


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Subject: Re: Austin Amateur Radio Suppy
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FYI -

Sounds like the person reporting this less than pleasant
experience with Austin Amateur Radio was in the minority
of customers doing business with this dealer.Most of these
ham stores employ individuals who are paid
near minimum wages with little or no fringes. As a result,
you may encounter a salesperson who doesn't give a "da_n" because they know
they're just putting in time until something better comes along.
If I received this type of "arrogant, surly" treatment I
would definitely notify the manager who may not be aware
this individual is treating customers this way.If enough
people complain, chances are he won't be there next time
you frequent this store.  There are
too many chain ham stores who will gladly take your money
and give you excellent service. Its a buyer's market and
you deserve to be treated with the same respect you would
get as a customer in any other business.

My 2c, from someone who's bought a lot of gear over the
years,
Bob Needleman, KD4ZN

[e-mail] (David Kazdan Md) wrote:
>
>
> In a previous article, [e-mail] (Jeff Kilgore) says:
>
> >In article <4a2h30$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Jay H
illgen) writes:
> >|> Gary Borich <[e-mail]> writes:
> >|>
> >|>
> >|> >As a resident of Austin. Texas, who has unfortunately frequented Austin

> >|> >Amateur Radio Suppy, I can attest first hand to their surly, impatient,

> >|> >and at times down right abrasive attitude.  As a ham for over 40 years,

> >|> >I can not ever remember being treated so rudely when asking specific
> >|> >questions about an impending purchase.
> >|>
> >|> WOW!  In the past few years, I've spent about $1200 at this establishmen
t and
> >|> found that their people were friendly and helpful.  As I'm in New Jersey
, I was
> >|> never a walk-in customer if that makes any difference.  At least over th
e
> >|> phone, I've had no problems with them.
> >|>                                           Jay
> >|>                                          N2OTK
> >|>
> >|>
> >|>
> >|>
> >
> >I have spent a few thousand at AARS in the last couple of years, and have
> >always received friendly service. I have no complaints, and will return
> >there in the future. YMMV, of course.
> >
> >Jeff, KC1MK
> >
>
>
> Vote here is positive--I have had excellent service from AARS.  So has my
> father.
>
>
>               --David
> --
> David Kazdan, M.D., Ph.D      [e-mail]; Amateur Radio: AD8Y
> Anesthesiologist,
> Whitacre Department of Anesthesiology, Meridia Huron Hospital,
>      East Cleveland, Ohio



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From: Carlos A C DeManuel <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: Austin Amateur Radio Suppy
Date: 26 Dec 1995 01:44:14 GMT
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Having business interests in Austin, Tx. and certain restrictions
to get ham radio equipment in Brazil, I have looked for these
guys twice, and I'd like to testify here that they offer very
poor service. They're much more concentrated in selling you what
they have in inventory rather than what you want to buy. If you
complain, the answer is always the same: "if you're not
satisfied, the closest store is in Orlando, Fl.". They carry
limited choice of equipment and are very little market and
customer oriented. This might be why these stores are going out
of business, being replaced by catalogs.

Best 73's


Ed
PY5CW


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Subject: Butt Hams: LARC: Gay Ham Club Activities
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[e-mail] (Doug Faunt N6TQS [phone]) wrote:
>And maybe even Drew could understand that no amateur radio activity
>is involved in spreading HIV and AIDS.
>73, doug

Wrong!
Hams are the biggest butt kissers

#================#=====================================================#
|  Burt Fisher   |  Teacher of video, broadcasting and electronics     |
| Amateur call   |         South Dennis, Ma. (Cape Cod)                |
|    K1OIK       |  If you sit on the fence, it is a pain in the butt  |
#================#=====================================================#
| [e-mail]                            MAC is 5% of the market  |
#======================================================================#

Get a GIF of K1OIK by telnet://ccsnet.com and go to FREE downloads for
bf1pres.gif (hams never had such excitment!) or call 508-385-3427 and
download from file area 21 (free).




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From: [e-mail]
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Subject: Cinti.,  OH area 2m & 70cm repeaters
Date: Wed, 27 Dec 1995 06:19:09 GMT
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I would like to obtain a listing of all repeaters in the Cincinnati,
OH ,  Northern KY area on 2m and 70cm.  I only have a very old
repeater book to go by and as you may suspect it is VERY incorrect.

Thanks in [e-mail]



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From: [e-mail] (AHyman1361)
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Subject: CLUBS IN BERGEN COUNTY
Date: 21 Dec 1995 22:34:20 -0500
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STEVE,

ONE OF THE OLDEST CLUBS IN BERGEN COUNTY IS B.A.R.A.
THE MEET THE FIRST  SUNDAY OF THE MONTH AT THE ELKS CLUB IN NEW MILFORD,
NJ.  IF YOU WOULD LIKE MORE INFO GET ON 146.79 PL 4A (141.3)
AND ASK FOR INFO RE BARA.  THE 79 REPEATER IS NOT A BARA REPETER, HOWEVER
MANY OF ITS MEMBERS ARE ALSO MEMBERS OF BARA.  THE REPEATER IS OWNED BY
THE BERGEN FM ASSOCIATION.

THERE IS ALSO A CLUB THE REVOLVES AROUND THE 146.70 MACHINE AND THE 146.49
REPEATER AS WELL AS THE STATE LINE GROUP THAT MEETS OUT OF HARRINGTON
PARK, OR SOMEPLACE IN NORTHERN BERGEN COUNTY.

HOPE THAT HELPS.

YOU CAN FIND ME ON 146.47 OR 442.300 OR 224.06 IF YOU NEED MORE INFO AND
HELP.

73
DE ALAN
KA2PVR


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Seems to me I read somewhere that Harris Corporation of Melbourne, FL
makes a radio used by the Navy that can move duplex signals at 9600 baud
over HF.  Don't know if civilians can buy them or how much they cost.  If
you find out let me know.

Good Luck



>>I am interested in an interesting idea that I have for my computer:
>>
>>I want to connect the computer to another one over the radio waves.
>>I need it to be running 24 hrs a day 7 days a week. It has to broadcast
>>over about a 60 mile range. And have a speed of about a 28.8 modem.
>
>this style of operation (unattended and personal/business) is not
compatible
>with ham bands
>
>>
>>Preferably I would want a full-duplex connection just hooked up to
>>modems on both sides. But other similar ideas I want to consider for
>>myself too.
>>
>>I live in the US, and in fact I want to transmit from the east cost of
New
>>Jersey to Long Island NY.
>>
>>I thought that maybe SW radio would be good, since it's a. not
regulated,
>
>it's very regulated
>
>>and b. can bend over the horizon.
>
>true, but due to multi path propagation your maximum baud rate is pretty
low
>unless you are frequency agile and operating close to the MUF. 1200bd is
about it.
>
>VHF through microwave is needed for this sort of data rate, 56kb modems
are
>available for this for about $300 (I think)
>
>
>
>>
>>Does anyone know how possible, leagal and/or expencive is this project?
>
>Well everyone wants one of these. They are starting to be off the shelf
but
>they're expensive in the kilo$ region I think. There's things like
>personal computer communicators which send RF around a building at about
>900MHz and if you put an antenna on them they go for about 2 miles.
>I understand that companies have developed stuff at about 2-5GHz to do
the same
>thing. I'm hoping that ham packet will all go over to this sort of stuff
>so we can have ethernet data rates on 10GHz.
>
>
>Joe Mack NA3T
>        [e-mail]
>
>
>
>
>>
>>(e-mail is prefferable)
>>Dan Akselrod
>>------------
>>http://menger.eecs.stevens-tech.edu/~danax
>>mailto:[e-mail]
>>
>
>



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From: Peter Coffee AC6EN <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: Contesting, ad nauseum
Date: 22 Dec 1995 18:01:01 GMT
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I've seen young hams who had a real case of mike fright sit down to
work their first contest, practically needing to be talked through
their first few contacts, then be running a frequency and working
two dozen stations while I went in for a cup of coffee.  Contesting
provides an environment in which contacts are numerous and in which
there's an excitement, born of competition, that helps many operators
become more confident on the air and more proficient in getting the
most out of their rigs and out of what may not be ideal band conditions.
Contests are not my main interest in ham radio, but I sure do enjoy them.


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From: [e-mail] (Richard F. DiDonna)
Subject: Re: Contesting, ad nauseum
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Burt Fisher ([e-mail]) wrote:
: [e-mail] (Sean E. Kutzko) wrote:

: UN, folks, and it's quite difficult to pull off a major event. If you
: >think it's so easy, give it an honest try and see if you still feel the
: >same way. Contesting requires lots of skill, mental prowess, strong
: >knowledge of propagation, and a hell of a good ear. There is a lot more

: I never said it was easy, just pointless.
: Counting every snow flake in the air is not easy either but like contesting,
 to
: what end?
:

Then again, so is repeating the same follow-up at least twice....

Rich



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From: [e-mail] (Jim Weir)
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Collect the small fish, the female sheep, the female horses, the white
birds, the large horned mammals, the hippopotamuses, the african
equine mammals, and the author of this note.

All together now.

Wee fish ewe a mare egrets moose
Wee fish ewe a mare egrets moose
Wee fish ewe a mare egrets moose

And a hippo gnu weir.



My best to you and yours,

Jim



Jim Weir VP Engineering  | "We seem to be standing on
RST Engineering          |  the foreskin of technology."
Grass Valley CA 95945    | (Gen. Chuck Yeager)
voice/fax [phone]   |
[e-mail]  AR Adv WB6BHI  CFI A&G/Comml Inst A&G/A&P/C-182A N73CQ



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From: [e-mail] (Barbara A. Kaisler )
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Subject: Re: Cue the barnyard animals --all together now
Date: 24 Dec 1995 04:58:41 GMT
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In <4bilq8$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Jim Weir) writes:
>
>
>Collect the small fish, the female sheep, the female horses, the white
>birds, the large horned mammals, the hippopotamuses, the african
>equine mammals, and the author of this note.
>
>All together now.
>
>Wee fish ewe a mare egrets moose
>Wee fish ewe a mare egrets moose
>Wee fish ewe a mare egrets moose
>
>And a hippo gnu weir.
>
>
>
>My best to you and yours,
>
>Jim
>
>
>
>Jim Weir VP Engineering  | "We seem to be standing on
>RST Engineering          |  the foreskin of technology."
>Grass Valley CA 95945    | (Gen. Chuck Yeager)
>voice/fax [phone]   |
>[e-mail]  AR Adv WB6BHI  CFI A&G/Comml Inst A&G/A&P/C-182A
N73CQ
>

And the same to you.

P.S.  Sounds like a take-off from the birthday song,  Hippo Birdie To
Ewe.

Happy Holidays To Everyone!

Barbara


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From: [e-mail] (Ed Rich)
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In article <4bimm1$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Barbara A.
 Kaisler ) writes:
>From: [e-mail] (Barbara A. Kaisler )
>Subject: Re: Cue the barnyard animals --all together now
>Date: 24 Dec 1995 04:58:41 GMT

>In <4bilq8$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Jim Weir) writes:
>>
>>
>>Collect the small fish, the female sheep, the female horses, the white
>>birds, the large horned mammals, the hippopotamuses, the african
>>equine mammals, and the author of this note.
>>
>>All together now.
>>
>>Wee fish ewe a mare egrets moose
>>Wee fish ewe a mare egrets moose
>>Wee fish ewe a mare egrets moose
>>
>>And a hippo gnu weir.
>>
>>
>>
>>My best to you and yours,
>>
>>Jim


Thanks an Ocelot.



>


>Barbara

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Ed (Moosemeat) Rich
Puritanism: The lurking suspicion that someone, somwhere
is enjoying himself...H.L. Mencken







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From: [e-mail] (James Monro)
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Jim Weir ([e-mail]) wrote:
>
>
> My best to you and yours,
>
> Jim
>

The best to ewe & Eyore's too.

James



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From: [e-mail] (Steve J104)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Decoding software
Date: 25 Dec 1995 14:08:21 -0500
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I am looking for Macintosh software to decode CW. Can anyone tell me what
is available out there?

Thanks,
Stanley K.


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From: [e-mail] (John Seney)
Subject: Digital Scope FAQ
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Organization: MV Communications, Inc.
Date: Sun, 24 Dec 1995 09:48:16 GMT
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IF... you want the complete version
of this Digital Scope.FAQ file sent
to you automatically as an
ATTACHED FILE <35k TEXT File>......
send me ([e-mail]).........
an EMAIL where the subject contains
the text "subscribe scope.faq".....

or go to the WWW page listed at the
end of this file...................

            KEY ISSUES REVIEWED IN THE FAQ (in order of appearance)

  * DSO INDUSTRY TRENDS       (Whats happening in DSO technology this year?)
  * DSO FORM FACTORS          (What types of DSOs are there?)
  * PRIMARY DSO FUNCTIONS     (What can DSOs actually do?)
  * COMPARISONS               (How can I best compare various models)
  * APPLICATIONS              (What are the most common DSO applications?)
  * ADCs                      (What speed do I really need on each channel?)
  * BANDWIDTH & TRIGGER       (What numbers and functions are right?)
  * ARCHIVAL & MEMORY         (How fast, how deep, and can I get more?)
  * DISPLAYS                  (What am I really looking at?)
  * MEASUREMENTS              (How much is my signal changing over time?)
  * DIGITAL SIGNAL PROCESSING (How can I obtain more useful information?)
  * DEMOS & PURCHASING        (How can I see and get the DSO I really need?)



73,

FYI: The latest version of Digital Scope.FAQ <304> is on my WWW Home Page.
        (All opinions are my own, including Digital Storage Scope.FAQ)

                        Best Holiday Wishes!


               John D. Seney |_|_|_|_| [e-mail]
          144 Pepperidge Dr. |_|   |_| www http://www.mv.com/ipusers/wd1v
   Manchester, NH 03103-6150 |_|_ _|_| [e-mail]
       LeCroy Sales Engineer | | | | | 800-553-2769

    (H) 603-668-1096 (F) 603-627-1623 (P) 800-SKYPAGE #5956779


From Unknown Wed Dec 27 18:37:47 1995
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From: Angelo Zambaiti <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: DOUBLE DRIVEN CUBICAL QUAD
Date: 26 Dec 1995 08:08:20 GMT
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Dear friends,I tried to build a dual driven cubical quad 4 elements
monobander for 20mt. but due to lack of informations the risults were
not so good.So, if you have any idea,suggestion or description about
this argument,please let me know it via e-mail or newsgroup.
Thanks and best wishes.
IK2RZP Angelo Gino Zambaiti  e-mail [e-mail]


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From: [e-mail] (Neal McEwen)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: DOUBLE DRIVEN CUBICAL QUAD
Date: 26 Dec 1995 08:29:38 -0600
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: Dear friends,I tried to build a dual driven cubical quad 4 elements
: monobander for 20mt. but due to lack of informations the risults were
: not so good.So, if you have any idea,suggestion or description about
: this argument,please let me know it via e-mail or newsgroup.

  In CQ Magazine about ten or twelve years ago, there was a very good
article on a dual driven element, 4 elemment quad.  Sorry, I don't remember
the exact issue.  Hope that helps.
--

73 de K5RW     - Neal McEwen                    - Richardson, TX (Dallas)
  ******** I collect old telgraph and wireless telegraph keys  *********
HomeNet        - [e-mail]           - OS/2 tcp/ip SLIP
HomePage       - http://fohnix.metronet.com/~nmcewen/techno_weenies.html


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From: [e-mail] (Paul R. Ryack)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: DSP filters
Date: Tue, 26 Dec 1995 02:10:28 GMT
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I'm having a terrible problem with line noise that the local power
company has been only partially successful in solving.  Does anybody
have any comments pro or con on using any of the outboard DSP units in
knocking down line noise. TNX.


Paul R. Ryack, W1ETH/6
[e-mail]
W1ETH@K6TZ.#SOCA.CA.USA.NOAM



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From: [e-mail] (Doug Hall)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: DSP filters
Date: Wed, 27 Dec 1995 20:01:13 GMT
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[e-mail] (Paul R. Ryack) wrote:

>I'm having a terrible problem with line noise that the local power
>company has been only partially successful in solving.  Does anybody
>have any comments pro or con on using any of the outboard DSP units in
>knocking down line noise. TNX.
>

Paul,
A DSP filter will help with the noise, but it won't do anything about
the strength of the noise on your S meter. If you're sure the noise is
local you might be better off eliminating the noise before it gets to
the receiver. The ANC-4 from JPS connects between your rig and antenna
and can significantly reduce power line noise. Email [e-mail] or
read about it at:

http://emporium.turnpike.net/J/JPS/jps/html

73,
Doug, KF4KL




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From: [e-mail] (Steven Fritts)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: F.S. D-104 Mic sale/trade
Date: Mon, 25 Dec 1995 02:46:43 GMT
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I have an amplified D-104 mic that I would like to trade for a MC
50/60 mike for my Kenwood HF rig. Might also consider selling
outright.

Thanks,

Steve



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From: Michael McDowell <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Find STSPLUS at...
Date: Sat, 23 Dec 1995 20:02:42 -0500
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You will find the latest version SOP9548A/B.ZIP here ...

http://www.gti.net/mcdowell

Mike


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From: [e-mail] (Ted Wolf Jr)
Newsgroups: rec.ham-radio.swap,rec.radio.amateur.swap,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.equipmrnt
Subject: FS: ATV Stuff
Date: Sun, 24 Dec 95 17:59:48 GMT
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For Sale:   ATV Equipment

3   AEA VSB 70   70cm ATV Transcievers          $225.00 each
1 Pauldon 70cm 1in 30 out ATV power amp         $125.00
1 Pauldon Video Sampler 70cm,33cm,23cm          $100.00

        Will sell individually or as a package for $850.00

        If COD(cash) buyer pays shipping charges

        If check in advance I will pay shipping

        Respond via e-mail to  [e-mail]

73  kb2blx


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From: [e-mail] (Cobra295)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: FT-51R Current mod(s)?
Date: 23 Dec 1995 22:49:07 -0500
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I just bought a couple of 51R's... love the radio, now looking for the
MARS/CAPS mod or others... my QRZ isn't recent enough to have these on the
CD.... any email responses would be greatly appreciated.. Thanks...

Sean, N2ZJJ


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From: [e-mail] (John Wagner)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: FT-51R Current mod(s)?
Date: Tue, 26 Dec 1995 14:11:57 GMT
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On 23 Dec 1995 22:49:07 -0500 [e-mail] (Cobra295) wrote:

>I just bought a couple of 51R's... love the radio, now looking for the
>MARS/CAPS mod or others... my QRZ isn't recent enough to have these on the
>CD.... any email responses would be greatly appreciated.. Thanks...

>Sean, N2ZJJ

Check out http://www.qrz.com

They have the newest QRZ mods database on-line, including a few for the
FT-51.
-------------------------------------------------------------------
John Wagner                  [e-mail]

For Encrypted Mail: PGP Public Key Available upon Request



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Subject: Re: Ham/GPS Page
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>   [e-mail] (Matt C. Brinkhoff) writes:
>
>
>  --
>  Matt C. Brinkhoff, KB0RXC
>  [e-mail]
>  Lincoln, Nebraska [EN10]
>
>>>>
So what is it, did I miss the boat here?

You may also check out my Ham page @  http://www.cyberhighway.net/~relliott/

I have a couple of pages under construction, I have a page with mostly  Radio
Oriented links and a local scanner listener
frequency  listings.


Rich Elliott  KC7CDK
[e-mail]
http://www.cyberhighway.net/~relliott/


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From: [e-mail] (John Seney)
Subject: Hams with Macintosh Database
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Organization: MV Communications, Inc.
Date: Fri, 22 Dec 1995 10:40:31 GMT
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"Macnet Roster" (ver. 725) has just been updated and is now a stand-alone
application! The version number = the number of hams using Macs.

"Macnet Roster" lists:

    o CALL SIGN @ HOME PBBS
    o FULL NAME
    o ADDRESS
    o CITY, STATE, ZIP
    o INTERNET ADDRESS
    o MACS USED
    o RADIOS USED
    o SOFTWARE USED
    o PASSIONS
    o COMMENTS

of every known amateur radio operator in the world that uses a Mac computer.

You can use "Macnet Roster" to find other Mac users that you can then
communicate with directly. Compare notes on software, applications, ideas,
hints and kinks, and make new ham friends that use the same computer you do.
(You already know how cool you are - imagine accessing "the rest of us"!)

      If you'd like the latest "Macnet Roster":

    Send me a formatted disk in a self addressed and stamped disk mailer
    that is in a large envelope clearly marked "ROSTER".

Or connect to my home page via the WWW

http://www.mv.com/ipusers/wd1v

Put YOUR INFO (via EMAIL or disk using TEACH TEXT) if you'd like to be include
d
in the "Macnet Roster" or send an update to your stats to me via pkt or email
anytime.

73,

FYI: The latest version of Digital Scope.FAQ <304> is on my WWW Home Page.
        (All opinions are my own, including Digital Storage Scope.FAQ)

                        Best Holiday Wishes!


               John D. Seney |_|_|_|_| [e-mail]
          144 Pepperidge Dr. |_|   |_| www http://www.mv.com/ipusers/wd1v
   Manchester, NH 03103-6150 |_|_ _|_| [e-mail]
       LeCroy Sales Engineer | | | | | 800-553-2769

    (H) 603-668-1096 (F) 603-627-1623 (P) 800-SKYPAGE #5956779


From Unknown Wed Dec 27 18:37:57 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Mike)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Has anyone here talked to N9PWZ ??
Date: 27 Dec 1995 06:57:05 GMT
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If you have had any contact with N9PWZ *please* let me know through
e-mail.

Or if you live in Wisconsin and could try to contact her.


Thanks


E-Mail:   [e-mail]
Web Site-    http://www.yab.com/~macgyver





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From: [e-mail] (KF2TI)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Hello??? this is KD4DDM  anyone out there?? CQ CQ CQ
Date: 27 Dec 1995 09:12:57 -0500
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In article <4brfvd$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (DavidSt1)
writes:

>Your plaintive cries of "Poo on you!  Naa Naa Boo Boo!"
>are getting a bit shrill.

this is the newsgroupd holiday present to Drew..we say all sorts of stuff
and let Drew respond. Come the 1st, we'll all ignore him and his ranting,
so bear with us for just a few more days...


The Newsgoop


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From: [e-mail] (Stephan Rashkin)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Hello??? this is KD4DMM  anyone out there?? CQ CQ CQ
Date: Mon, 25 Dec 1995 05:56:41 GMT
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[e-mail] (KF2TI) wrote:

>In article <4bks5q$[e-mail]>, [e-mail]
>(Drew Durigan) writes:

>>Where?  I never claimed to have worked "all this DX"; you're just
>>repeating a third-hand story that you heard from someone else on this
>>newsgroup.

>actually Drew, you exact statement verbatim..." I have worked many
>countries with 5 watts "
> so again..how??? 10 meters is as dead as the proverbial doornail.  did
>you use CW?? did you illegally go outside your license class and get on
>20M???  40M???  80M??? SSB

>this is not 3rd party hearsay, it was included in one of your asinine post
>concerning how the bands must be dead of CW, cause you never hear anyone
>that you know using CW in your local area.


>I am sure if push came to shove, someone has the exact post.  I only keep
>snippets of the more interesting spew that goes on here.  makes for great
>articles in the local club newsletter..  which, you by the way are a great
>contributor, would you like to be on the mailing list in the future???


this must've happened during one of Drew's frequent blackouts...
Drew you're a "waste of skin"

NHZ




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From: [e-mail] (KF2TI)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Hello??? this is KD4DMM  anyone out there?? CQ CQ CQ
Date: 24 Dec 1995 23:49:26 -0500
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In article <4bks5q$[e-mail]>, [e-mail]
(Drew Durigan) writes:

>Where?  I never claimed to have worked "all this DX"; you're just
>repeating a third-hand story that you heard from someone else on this
>newsgroup.

actually Drew, you exact statement verbatim..." I have worked many
countries with 5 watts "
 so again..how??? 10 meters is as dead as the proverbial doornail.  did
you use CW?? did you illegally go outside your license class and get on
20M???  40M???  80M??? SSB

this is not 3rd party hearsay, it was included in one of your asinine post
concerning how the bands must be dead of CW, cause you never hear anyone
that you know using CW in your local area.


I am sure if push came to shove, someone has the exact post.  I only keep
snippets of the more interesting spew that goes on here.  makes for great
articles in the local club newsletter..  which, you by the way are a great
contributor, would you like to be on the mailing list in the future???


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From: [e-mail] (Drew Durigan)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Hello??? this is KD4DMM  anyone out there?? CQ CQ CQ
Date: 25 Dec 1995 13:24:32 GMT
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>actually Drew, you exact statement verbatim..." I have worked many
>countries with 5 watts "
> so again..how??? 10 meters is as dead as the proverbial doornail.  did
>you use CW?? did you illegally go outside your license class and get on
>20M???  40M???  80M??? SSB

None of the above.  11-meters, during the last sunspot cycle peak of 1989-
91. And the statement is true...Australia, Japan, Belgium, England,
Ireland, Spain, Alaska, Hawaii, several South American countries, etc.,
etc.  Did I ever say I "talked around the world?"  NO!  Did I ever
mention ANYTHING about DXCC?  NO!  Did I ever say it was on 10-meters?
NO!  Did I ever say it was within the last few months?  NO!  Did I even
say it was on a HAM BAND?  NO!  Just more of your (*wrong*) assumptions!

So, I stand by the staement "I have worked many countries with 5 watts."
With the right propagation and an open frequency, you CAN talk around the
world on 5 watts.  Gee, you almighty, upper-class, pro-code, been-a-ham
for 30, 40, 50-years types should at least know that much.

-Drew in Charlotte-
 KF4DDM


-



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From: [e-mail] (Drew Durigan)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Hello??? this is KD4DMM  anyone out there?? CQ CQ CQ
Date: 25 Dec 1995 13:27:47 GMT
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>this must've happened during one of Drew's frequent blackouts...
>Drew you're a "waste of skin"

More personal attacks and name calling, huh?

-Drew in Charlotte-
 KF4DDM



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From: [e-mail] (Michael P. Deignan)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Hello??? this is KD4DMM  anyone out there?? CQ CQ CQ
Date: 26 Dec 1995 01:51:33 -0500
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In article <4bm8mg$[e-mail]>,
        Drew Durigan <[e-mail]> wrote:

>11-meters,
...
>So, I stand by the staement "I have worked many countries with 5 watts."

So you openingly acknowledge that you break federal law?

MD
--
--
-- "Who needs looks when you've got taste?"
--


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From: [e-mail] (Stephan Rashkin)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Hello??? this is KD4DMM  anyone out there?? CQ CQ CQ
Date: Tue, 26 Dec 1995 04:47:44 GMT
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[e-mail] (Drew Durigan) wrote:

>>actually Drew, you exact statement verbatim..." I have worked many
>>countries with 5 watts "
>> so again..how??? 10 meters is as dead as the proverbial doornail.  did
>>you use CW?? did you illegally go outside your license class and get on
>>20M???  40M???  80M??? SSB

>None of the above.  11-meters, during the last sunspot cycle peak of 1989-
>91. And the statement is true...Australia, Japan, Belgium, England,
>Ireland, Spain, Alaska, Hawaii, several South American countries, etc.,
>etc.  Did I ever say I "talked around the world?"  NO!  Did I ever
>mention ANYTHING about DXCC?  NO!  Did I ever say it was on 10-meters?
>NO!  Did I ever say it was within the last few months?  NO!  Did I even
>say it was on a HAM BAND?  NO!  Just more of your (*wrong*) assumptions!

>So, I stand by the staement "I have worked many countries with 5 watts."
>With the right propagation and an open frequency, you CAN talk around the
>world on 5 watts.  Gee, you almighty, upper-class, pro-code, been-a-ham
>for 30, 40, 50-years types should at least know that much.

>-Drew in Charlotte-
> KF4DDM


How long did it take you to come up with that way out of your lie?
What a jerk..You know that's not the band you originally mentioned

Steve, WA2NHZ
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From: [e-mail] (Stephan Rashkin)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Hello??? this is KD4DMM  anyone out there?? CQ CQ CQ
Date: Tue, 26 Dec 1995 04:51:21 GMT
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[e-mail] (Drew Durigan) wrote:

>>actually Drew, you exact statement verbatim..." I have worked many
>>countries with 5 watts "
>> so again..how??? 10 meters is as dead as the proverbial doornail.  did
>>you use CW?? did you illegally go outside your license class and get on
>>20M???  40M???  80M??? SSB

>None of the above.  11-meters, during the last sunspot cycle peak of 1989-
>91. And the statement is true...Australia, Japan, Belgium, England,
>Ireland, Spain, Alaska, Hawaii, several South American countries, etc.,
>etc.  Did I ever say I "talked around the world?"  NO!  Did I ever
>mention ANYTHING about DXCC?  NO!  Did I ever say it was on 10-meters?
>NO!  Did I ever say it was within the last few months?  NO!  Did I even
>say it was on a HAM BAND?  NO!  Just more of your (*wrong*) assumptions!

>So, I stand by the staement "I have worked many countries with 5 watts."
>With the right propagation and an open frequency, you CAN talk around the
>world on 5 watts.  Gee, you almighty, upper-class, pro-code, been-a-ham
>for 30, 40, 50-years types should at least know that much.

>-Drew in Charlotte-
> KF4DDM


Yeah and another lie!..One one hand he says he is a unwaivering
follower of federal law...and on the other hand he breaks it by
working DX on CB..Moron..

Have a nice day,
Steve, WA2NHZ






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From: [e-mail] (Christopher Greenhalgh)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Hello??? this is KD4DMM  anyone out there?? CQ CQ CQ
Date: Tue, 26 Dec 1995 14:33:40 GMT
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In article <4bnui5$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Stephan
Rashkin) writes:
>From: [e-mail] (Stephan Rashkin)
>Subject: Re: Hello??? this is KD4DMM  anyone out there?? CQ CQ CQ
>Date: Tue, 26 Dec 1995 04:47:44 GMT

>[e-mail] (Drew Durigan) wrote:

>>>actually Drew, you exact statement verbatim..." I have worked many
>>>countries with 5 watts "
>>> so again..how??? 10 meters is as dead as the proverbial doornail.  did
>>>you use CW?? did you illegally go outside your license class and get on
>>>20M???  40M???  80M??? SSB

>>None of the above.  11-meters, during the last sunspot cycle peak of 1989-
>>91. And the statement is true...Australia, Japan, Belgium, England,
>>Ireland, Spain, Alaska, Hawaii, several South American countries, etc.,
>>etc.  Did I ever say I "talked around the world?"  NO!  Did I ever
>>mention ANYTHING about DXCC?  NO!  Did I ever say it was on 10-meters?
>>NO!  Did I ever say it was within the last few months?  NO!  Did I even
>>say it was on a HAM BAND?  NO!  Just more of your (*wrong*) assumptions!

>>So, I stand by the staement "I have worked many countries with 5 watts."
>>With the right propagation and an open frequency, you CAN talk around the
>>world on 5 watts.  Gee, you almighty, upper-class, pro-code, been-a-ham
>>for 30, 40, 50-years types should at least know that much.

>>-Drew in Charlotte-
>> KF4DDM


>How long did it take you to come up with that way out of your lie?
>What a jerk..You know that's not the band you originally mentioned

>Steve, WA2NHZ

Yes thats true. Dru is a liar. His original post was refering to the Ham bands
.





_____________________________________________________________________________
Christopher K. Greenhalgh, N8WCT
Computer/Electronic Tech II at Ohio State University
E-Mail:[e-mail]  Radio:N8WCT@W8CQK.#CMH.OH.USA.NOAM



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From: [e-mail] (Christopher Greenhalgh)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Hello??? this is KD4DMM  anyone out there?? CQ CQ CQ
Date: Tue, 26 Dec 1995 20:53:51 GMT
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In article <4bpjqk$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Drew Du
rigan) writes:

>>So you openingly acknowledge that you break federal law?


>Yes.  I admit it.  I have committed the ultimate mortal sin.  Several
>years ago, I did indeed communicate on my CB radio with stations that
>were more than 150 miles distant from my own.  A capital offense, no
>doubt.  Do I get lethal injection, or am I going to be sentenced to a
>public hanging for my heinous crime instead?

>Are you also going to tell me that you have never, ever picked up that CB
>mike and talked skip?

>-Drew in Charlotte-
> KF4DDM

If dru makes this much light of breaking federal law in the past...wonder how
often he does it now? Hmmmm....

_____________________________________________________________________________
Christopher K. Greenhalgh, N8WCT
Computer/Electronic Tech II at Ohio State University
E-Mail:[e-mail]  Radio:N8WCT@W8CQK.#CMH.OH.USA.NOAM



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From: [e-mail] (Michael P. Deignan)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Hello??? this is KD4DMM  anyone out there?? CQ CQ CQ
Date: 26 Dec 1995 19:50:04 -0500
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In article <4bpjqk$[e-mail]>,
        Drew Durigan <[e-mail]> wrote:

>Yes.  I admit it.  I have committed the ultimate mortal sin.  Several
>years ago, I did indeed communicate on my CB radio with stations that
>were more than 150 miles distant from my own.

It merely shows more about your true character. It shows that you
enjoyed working "skip", and now you want to be able to "work skip" in
the ham bands, but you don't want to fulfill the requirements that
the regulations call for.


>Are you also going to tell me that you have never, ever picked up that CB
>mike and talked skip?

Can't say I have. The limit of my CB exposure was one month in the
mid 70's when a relative gave me a 23 channel CB radio that she had
won on a local radio station.

MD
--
--
-- "Who needs looks when you've got taste?"
--


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From: [e-mail] (Christopher Greenhalgh)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Hello??? this is KD4DMM  anyone out there?? CQ CQ CQ
Date: Tue, 26 Dec 1995 23:46:18 GMT
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In article <4bpte2$[e-mail]> Dennis J Ponsness <[e-mail]
ager.net> writes:
>From: Dennis J Ponsness <[e-mail]>
>Subject: Re: Hello??? this is KD4DMM  anyone out there?? CQ CQ CQ
>Date: 26 Dec 1995 22:36:50 GMT

>I am new to this newsgroup, who the hell is this "Drew"?

Drew is a newly licensed ham (3.5 months) as a tech, who is also a ham basher.

If you politely disagree with him, or wish to have scocial debate, he will
hurl insults at you, call names, make assumption, attack you, mis-label fact,
spew ignorance, and end up lieing about it. He has even made up lies...to
cover previous lies which he cant keep straight.

I had a short debate with him about 3 months ago, and attacked me so greatly,
I had to have my server lock him out of my mailbox! (he even lied about that)

He even went as for to (still LOLing) sue me for libel!  Youll also find that
he is a 'know-it-all', 'been there', 'done that' kid too. If you get a chuckle

from these imature types, just keep listening...he cant help it.

There is another guy that some find offensive, and his name is Burt. I think
Burt posts just to get a response...I dont belive hes as dumb as he would lead

us to belive, but drew...

Youll see for yoursef.      :)

Take care, & welcome to the group.

_____________________________________________________________________________
Christopher K. Greenhalgh, N8WCT
Computer/Electronic Tech II at Ohio State University
E-Mail:[e-mail]  Radio:N8WCT@W8CQK.#CMH.OH.USA.NOAM



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From: Gerald Schmitt <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
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Dennis J Ponsness <[e-mail]> wrote:
>
> I am new to this newsgroup, who the hell is this "Drew"?

Drew is a fellow who has the temerity to challenge CW (Complete
Worship) as the only worthwhile thing in amateur radio. This
releases the kill hormone among the CW almost adept and they
insult each other for a time as the rest of us laugh. It has
been particularly vicious the last week or so, perhaps in respect
of the Christmas season. Unless you have a slightly warped
sense of humor (I do) I would recommend giving it a pass. Drew
is actually a nice guy for a heretic. I presume I will be
blasted for this post watch and see if you care.

        73 Jerry who doesn't care what class of license you have.
>



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I am new to this newsgroup, who the hell is this "Drew"?



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Hello:

Maybe I can get some help from you. I am interested in getting involved in
had radio but have no idea where to start. I know that I have an interest
in communication. I don't know what each beginning license will let me get
involved in. Starting with a no code license might be easiest to start
with however I didn't want to start spending money on equipment that I
won't be happy with. Where should I go to get the information that I will
need to make a good startup decision.

Thanks Bob



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From: [e-mail] (Drew Durigan)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Hello??? this is KD4DMM  anyone out there?? CQ CQ CQ
Date: 27 Dec 1995 01:45:20 GMT
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>I assume nothing. I can prove everything I say.

Then do it.  Quit talking and let's see some of that proof.

(typical Greenhalgh drivel deleted)


>I have all of his posts, and as I said, can prove everything I say.

One more time, Chris.  Prove it.  Put up or shut up.  The next move is
yours, and everyone is now watching to see if you can indeed back up your
accusations with facts.

-Drew in Charlotte-
 KF4DDM



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From: [e-mail] (Christopher K Greenhalgh)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Hello??? this is KD4DMM  anyone out there?? CQ CQ CQ
Date: 27 Dec 1995 12:35:54 GMT
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In article <4br5m8$[e-mail]>, KA9EGW <[e-mail]> wrote:

>sunspot peak in 89-91?  Not...

Ya know...I thought so too. Probably another one of his lies.

--
Christopher K. Greenhalgh, N8WCT
Computer/Electronic Tech. II at Ohio State University
E-Mail: [e-mail] ([e-mail])
Radio : n8wct@w8cqk.#cmh.oh.usa.noam


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Would you two children kindly stop sticking your
tongues out at each other and throwing spitballs?

Your plaintive cries of "Poo on you!  Naa Naa Boo Boo!"
are getting a bit shrill.

Happy New Year,
DS


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From: [e-mail] (KA9EGW)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Hello??? this is KD4DMM  anyone out there?? CQ CQ CQ
Date: 27 Dec 1995 13:41:56 -0500
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kf2ti in his post of 12/27 wrote

"now that you have shown us an example of what we might find if they
eliminate code..in otherwords, someone who proudly can say he broke the
law, I am getting off the fence and will fight you (no code HF) wherever
and whenever I can.  You are a poor example of, or should I say a prime
example of what will happen to this hobby of they continue to "dumb down"
the entry fees."

I agree.


From Unknown Wed Dec 27 18:38:19 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Stephan Rashkin)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Hello??? this is KD4DMM  anyone out there?? CQ CQ CQ
Date: Wed, 27 Dec 1995 21:16:57 GMT
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[e-mail] (Christopher K Greenhalgh) wrote:

>In article <4br5m8$[e-mail]>, KA9EGW <[e-mail]> wrote:

>>sunspot peak in 89-91?  Not...

>Ya know...I thought so too. Probably another one of his lies.

********************************************
The only spots and streaks Drew has seen
was in his underwear..If he even wears any..
Anyway I won't know..just a theory based on
his Dilithium personality scan..

Steve, WA2NHZ




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From: [e-mail] (KA9EGW)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Hello??? this is KD4DMM  anyone out there?? CQ CQ CQ
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It's plausible...I've been a ham for 16 years and have never once
operated, owned or used a CB.


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From: [e-mail]
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Subject: Re: Hello??? this is KD4DMM anyone out there?? CQ CQ CQ
Date: 25 Dec 1995 18:28:57 GMT
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[e-mail] (Drew Durigan) writes:

>None of the above.  11-meters, during the last sunspot cycle peak of 1989-
>91. And the statement is true...Australia, Japan, Belgium, England,
>Ireland, Spain, Alaska, Hawaii, several South American countries, etc.,
> [...]
>So, I stand by the staement "I have worked many countries with 5 watts."
>With the right propagation and an open frequency, you CAN talk around the
>world on 5 watts.  Gee, you almighty, upper-class, pro-code, been-a-ham
>for 30, 40, 50-years types should at least know that much.

Yes, we do know that, but we also know that it is a direct violation of
the FCC Regs to do so on 11-meters.
--
Dick Flanagan, W6OLD - ([e-mail]) - Minden, NV


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From: [e-mail] (RickieV)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: HELP - AEA PK-12 TNC HELP
Date: 24 Dec 1995 08:44:59 -0500
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Hello Guys,
I have a AEA pk-12 tnc and would like to use it in windows...

I have download a few programs which are windows base and none
of them could speak to the tnc..  Can someone recommend a good
shareware/freeware program I could download either on aol or via ftp..

Thanks...

Please write back to me via email, since I WILL get lost on the newsgroups
:).

Thanks again,

[e-mail]

[e-mail]


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From: [e-mail] (Petronet Networks)
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     HELP ME!
     I need schematic diagram of RANGER tranceiver (RCI-2950).
     Please send to:
Box 980, 185020, Petrozavodsk-20, Republic of Karelia, Russia.
     73! RK1NA (ex UN1CD)
     Konstantin Gvozdev
     Thanks you!




From Unknown Wed Dec 27 18:38:23 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Mike Morris)
Subject: Re: HELP: slash through zero font
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Organization: College Park Software, Altadena, CA
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"Joseph P. Feehan" <[e-mail]> writes:

>[e-mail] (Tom Levendusky Jr.) wrote:
>>Does anybody know what font has the slash through the zero?
>>
>>Thanks
>>Tom N0MWY
>>

>I found it in fonts "Souvenir" and "SymbolProp" using the
>Character Map feature of Windows 3.1.  I know it's in at least
>one other font that I've seen. VP2VBL

Does anybody know of a cheap or shareware font editor?  I'd
like to modify a couple of fonts for a slash zero (and a
couple of other tweaks).


--
---
Mike Morris                                [e-mail]
#include <disclaimer.std.h>        I have others, but this works the best.
   This message assembled from 100% recycled electrons (and pixels).


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From: [e-mail] (Mike Miller KB0JGS)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: HTX-202 Error 2?
Date: Tue, 26 Dec 1995 15:59:49 -0600
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Howdy all,
My HTX-202 occasionally flashes the error 2 msg. This happens more often
when I have it hooked up to my TNC, but it has happened once or twice when
not hooked up to the TNC. If I turn it off, the error msg usually doesn't
come back, at least not immediately. Also, I've observed that switching
from a power supply to a battery pack makes the error code go away. I've
owned the HT just over 1 year, of course. Anyone with similar problems?
Advice?

Mike KB0JGS


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Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: HTX-404
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I have for sale or trade 2 HTX-404's . Both are new with all accessories. I'm
asking $175 each or will trade them both to a good
dual band ht. 73's     Steve.....KF4FIO


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From: [e-mail] (WA8ULX)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Jack Booted Thugs of Ham Radio
Date: 25 Dec 1995 09:02:41 -0500
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you our exactly right Drew


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From: [e-mail] (Christer Johansson)
Newsgroups: comp.robotics.misc,comp.home.automation,sci.electronics,sci.electronics.misc,rec.radio.amateur.homebrew,rec.radio.amateur.misc
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List Of Stamp Applications (L.O.S.A for short)
==============================================

If you have done something with the BASIC Stamp (big or small)
that you are willing to tell others please use the form below and
write a short description, nothing fancy is needed just a simple
explanation. If you have source code to share that's even better but
it's not necessary.

Then e-mail the form to:

     [e-mail]

With the following as the subject:

     L.O.S.A Contribution

Or you could point your Web-browser to the following URL and fill in
the L.O.S.A form on the Web-page...

     http://www.algonet.se/~cj/losa.html

The latest version of L.O.S.A is going to be posted to the following
mailing lists and news groups, I will update it approx. once a month.

Mailing lists:

BASIC Stamp Mailing List

News groups:

comp.robotics.misc
comp.home.automation
sci.electronics
sci.electronics.misc
rec.radio.amateur.homebrew
rec.radio.amateur.misc

[--- cut ---]

======================================================================
                    - L.O.S.A Contribution Form -
======================================================================
 New Contribution [ ]  Update [ ]
----------------------------------------------------------------------

 Title :
 Author:                                       Date:

 E-mail: (optional)
----------------------------------------------------------------------

 Stamp model   : BASIC Stamp/BS1-IC/BS2-IC
 Code available: YES/NO
 Filename      : (optional)
 URL           : (optional)
----------------------------------------------------------------------
 Description   : (5-50 rows describing your application)


======================================================================

[--- cut ---]

If you think something are missing in the "L.O.S.A Contribution Form"
please let me know and I will add it.

Regards,

/Christer





From Unknown Wed Dec 27 18:38:29 1995
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From: [e-mail] (CRONIN)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: LARC: Gay Ham Club Activities
Date: 22 Dec 1995 01:50:49 GMT
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In article <4b78ug$[e-mail]>,
John  L. Rouse <[e-mail]> wrote:
>[e-mail] (nunnya) wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>A misguided poster wrote:
> "So if any of you hams, like a big fat"..and more vulgar drivel..
>
>...
>found between the postings of the loonies and the ravers.  The LARC group
>has every right in the world to post its message.

And we have the "right" to reply.

>...
>enough the social misfits use this group to rave on about whatever it is

So sodomy as a way of life is normal?  Perhaps we've been watching too
much daytime TV.  "Next on Jerry Springer - Ham radio operators who like
to squeal like a pig."

>they rave on about, but people should not be confronted with this sort of
>garbage

It's difficult to describe homosexual practices in a polite manner.  That's
why they use the word "gay."  It doesn't draw immediate attention to what
they do.

73..Jim  N2VNO


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From: [e-mail] (Jerry B Altzman)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: LARC: Gay Ham Club Activities
Date: 22 Dec 1995 17:13:07 GMT
Organization: double ionizers association
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In article <4bd2tq$[e-mail]>,
CRONIN <[e-mail]> wrote:
>In article <4b78ug$[e-mail]>,
>John  L. Rouse <[e-mail]> wrote:
>>found between the postings of the loonies and the ravers.  The LARC group
>>has every right in the world to post its message.

>And we have the "right" to reply.

Darn tootin'. This is a public forum. Grow thicker skin.

>>enough the social misfits use this group to rave on about whatever it is

>So sodomy as a way of life is normal?  Perhaps we've been watching too
>much daytime TV.  "Next on Jerry Springer - Ham radio operators who like
>to squeal like a pig."

And here I thought it was people tuning up on HF!
Whatever your opinion on homosexuality or homosexual acts (the two are
distinct, dontcha know?) one could just as well voice an opinion in private.
Just because you *can* say something doesn't imply that you *should*.

>>they rave on about, but people should not be confronted with this sort of
>>garbage

>It's difficult to describe homosexual practices in a polite manner.  That's
>why they use the word "gay."  It doesn't draw immediate attention to what
>they do.

See above re: homosexuals vs. homosexual acts. I suppose you'd get all
grossed out about non-missionary-style sex between men and women (also
sodomy). You also don't have to describe homosexual acts -- no one is
holding a gun to your head.

>73..Jim  N2VNO

69,
//jbaltz
jerry b. altzman   Entropy just isn't what it used to be      [phone]
[e-mail]   [e-mail]  KE3ML  (HEPNET) NEVIS::jbaltz


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From: "Anthony R. Gold" <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: LARC: Gay Ham Club Activities
Date: Fri, 22 Dec 95 18:57:02 GMT
Organization: Microvest Limited, London
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In article <4bd2tq$[e-mail]>
           [e-mail] "CRONIN" writes:

> And we have the "right" to reply.

[snip]

> 73..Jim  N2VNO

Some people might feel that this should have been posted as a contribution
to the no-code=no-brain thread.  I couldn't possible comment :-)

Regards,
--
   Tony - G3SKR / AA2PM                  email: [e-mail]
                                                [e-mail]
                                        packet: g3skr@n0ary.#nocal.ca.usa.na


From Unknown Wed Dec 27 18:38:33 1995
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From: [e-mail] (charles copeland)
Subject: Re: LARC: Gay Ham Club Activities
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest)
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Date: Fri, 22 Dec 1995 18:55:12 GMT
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In article <[e-mail]>,  <[e-mail]> wrote:
>
>
>The Lambda Amateur Radio Club (LARC), a U.S.-based international
>club for G/L/B/T ham radio operators, computer hobbyists and
>electronics enthusiasts and their friends and supporters, gay AND
>straight, welcomes new members. For more information about membership
>and the club's various activities check out LARC's Web homepage:
>
>What kinds of things do we do?

If you plan to air your dirty laundry on public airwaves,
prepare to arrested for lewd conduct in public.

Why don't you stay on IRC and AOL where no one will be offended?



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From: [e-mail] (Drew Durigan)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: LARC: Gay Ham Club Activities
Date: 23 Dec 1995 06:42:57 GMT
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>>The Lambda Amateur Radio Club (LARC), a U.S.-based international
>>club for G/L/B/T ham radio operators, computer hobbyists and
>>electronics enthusiasts and their friends and supporters, gay AND
>>straight, welcomes new members. For more information about membership
>>and the club's various activities check out LARC's Web homepage:
>>
>>What kinds of things do we do?

Things that cause AIDS.  Keep your rubber ducky away from me, please.

-Drew in Charlotte-
 KF4DDM



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From: [e-mail] (Christopher K Greenhalgh)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: LARC: Gay Ham Club Activities
Date: 23 Dec 1995 13:39:05 GMT
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In article <4bg8dh$[e-mail]>,
Drew Durigan <[e-mail]> wrote:

>>>The Lambda Amateur Radio Club (LARC), a U.S.-based international
>>>club for G/L/B/T ham radio operators, computer hobbyists and
>>>electronics enthusiasts and their friends and supporters, gay AND
>>>straight, welcomes new members. For more information about membership
>>>and the club's various activities check out LARC's Web homepage:
>>>
>>>What kinds of things do we do?

>Things that cause AIDS.  Keep your rubber ducky away from me, please.
>
>-Drew in Charlotte-
> KF4DDM

His DRIVEL has reached an all time low! AIDS affects and aflicts many
people...staight, gay, male, female...it doesnt matter who or WHAT you
are! I know 2 people who contracted AIDS from blood transfusions...
would drew now say that that "causes" AIDS? I will agree that AIDS is
prominet in the male gay community...but for someone to say that gays
"cause' AIDS, is not only ignorant beyond imagine and innappropriate...
but also in the wrong group for discussion on the matter.

I know that drew will recieve a lot of flames because of this, but if we
all get together and ignore him, he WILL go away. (notice his frequency
of posts of late?)

Happy holidays to all.



--
  +=================================+===================================+
  |Christopher K. Greenhalgh, N8WCT |[e-mail] |
  |Electronic/Computer Tech. @ OSU  |radio: n8wct@w8cqk.#cmh.oh.usa.noam|

  +=================================+===================================+


From Unknown Wed Dec 27 18:38:36 1995
Path: news.epix.net!uunet!in1.uu.net!prodigy.com!usenet
From: [e-mail] (Drew Durigan)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: LARC: Gay Ham Club Activities
Date: 23 Dec 1995 15:00:48 GMT
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[e-mail] (Christopher K Greenhalgh) wrote:
>
>In article <4bg8dh$[e-mail]>,
>Drew Durigan <[e-mail]> wrote:
>
>>>>The Lambda Amateur Radio Club (LARC), a U.S.-based international
>>>>club for G/L/B/T ham radio operators, computer hobbyists and
>>>>electronics enthusiasts and their friends and supporters, gay AND
>>>>straight, welcomes new members. For more information about
membership
>>>>and the club's various activities check out LARC's Web homepage:
>>>>
>>>>What kinds of things do we do?
>
>>Things that cause AIDS.  Keep your rubber ducky away from me, please.
>>
>>-Drew in Charlotte-
>> KF4DDM
>
>His DRIVEL has reached an all time low! AIDS affects and aflicts many
>people...staight, gay, male, female...it doesnt matter who or WHAT you
>are! I know 2 people who contracted AIDS from blood transfusions...
>would drew now say that that "causes" AIDS? I will agree that AIDS is
>prominet in the male gay community...but for someone to say that gays
>"cause' AIDS, is not only ignorant beyond imagine and innappropriate...
>but also in the wrong group for discussion on the matter.

Fact: the overwhelming majority of AIDS and HIV cases are caused by
homosexual sex and/or IV drug use.  Enough said.

-Drew in Charlotte-
 KF4DDM




From Unknown Wed Dec 27 18:38:37 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Drew Durigan)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: LARC: Gay Ham Club Activities
Date: 23 Dec 1995 15:01:56 GMT
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>I know that drew will recieve a lot of flames because of this, but if
we
>all get together and ignore him, he WILL go away.

Just like you're doing...right, Chris?

-Drew in Charlotte-
 KF4DDM



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From: [e-mail] (nunnya)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: LARC: Gay Ham Club Activities
Date: 23 Dec 1995 19:03:22 GMT
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: people...staight, gay, male, female...it doesnt matter who or WHAT you
: are! I know 2 people who contracted AIDS from blood transfusions...

        Sure thats what they told you! Thats what they told you after the
infected your butt.


From Unknown Wed Dec 27 18:38:39 1995
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From: "Anthony R. Gold" <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: LARC: Gay Ham Club Activities
Date: Sat, 23 Dec 95 17:17:05 GMT
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In article <4bh5j0$[e-mail]>
           [e-mail] "Drew Durigan" writes:

> Fact: the overwhelming majority of AIDS and HIV cases are caused by
> homosexual sex and/or IV drug use.  Enough said.

More than enough, than you.  Your "fact" may be true in North Carolina.
But anyone who understands that the world is somewhat larger even than
Mecklenburg County will know very differently from such nonsense.

Regards,
--
   Tony - G3SKR / AA2PM                  email: [e-mail]
                                                [e-mail]
                                        packet: g3skr@n0ary.#nocal.ca.usa.na


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From: [e-mail] (Drew Durigan)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: LARC: Gay Ham Club Activities
Date: 23 Dec 1995 22:41:48 GMT
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>>Fact: the overwhelming majority of AIDS and HIV cases are caused by
>>homosexual sex and/or IV drug use.  Enough said.
>
>>-Drew in Charlotte-
>> KF4DDM
>
>Hes wrong again..."homosexual sex" and/or "IV drug use" do not *CAUSE*
AIDS or
>HIV. HIV is a virus, hence, you cant by definition "cause" it to happen.
It
>would be safe to say that the HIV causes AIDS tho...he should learn more
about
>a subject before he spews ignorance.

Ok, Chris, 'ol buddy 'ol pal...in the spirit of Christmas, I'll give you
this one.  I should have said SPREAD HIV, not CAUSE AIDS.  There.  Are
you happy now?

I guess it stands to reason that you would know quite a bit more than I
do about this particular subject, doesn't it?

-Drew in Charlotte-
 KF4DDM



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From: [e-mail] (chris greenhalgh)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: LARC: Gay Ham Club Activities
Date: Sat, 23 Dec 1995 20:14:48 GMT
Organization: The Ohio State University
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In article <4bh5j0$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Drew D
urigan) writes:

>Fact: the overwhelming majority of AIDS and HIV cases are caused by
>homosexual sex and/or IV drug use.  Enough said.

>-Drew in Charlotte-
> KF4DDM

Hes wrong again..."homosexual sex" and/or "IV drug use" do not *CAUSE* AIDS or

HIV. HIV is a virus, hence, you cant by definition "cause" it to happen. It
would be safe to say that the HIV causes AIDS tho...he should learn more about

a subject before he spews ignorance.

Happy holidays all.




From Unknown Wed Dec 27 18:38:43 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Doug Faunt N6TQS [phone])
Subject: Re: LARC: Gay Ham Club Activities
In-Reply-To: [e-mail]'s message of 23 Dec 1995 22:41:48 GMT
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
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Organization: at home, in Oakland
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And maybe even Drew could understand that no amateur radio activity
is involved in spreading HIV and AIDS.
73, doug


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From: [e-mail] (Ron Klein )
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: LARC: Gay Ham Club Activities
Date: 24 Dec 1995 01:58:03 GMT
Organization: Netcom
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In <4bapmk$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (WA6UBE) writes:

>
>John L. Rouse writes:
>>this that boosts radio.amateur.misc into the verbal zoo it seems to be
>>turning into. Too bad. There's a lot of very useful information to be
>>found between the postings of the loonies and the ravers.  The LARC group
>
>>has every right in the world to post its message.
>>If you don't agree with it, no problem -- ignore it. But there's
>>absolutely no need to resort to this kind of base scurility. It's bad
>>enough the social misfits use this group to rave on about whatever it is
>>they rave on about, but people should not be confronted with this sort of
>
>>garbage when they
>>check in here.
>
>Thank you John, for your  reply regarding offensive posters and language
>here.
>There is too much divisive rhetoric of the "us versus them" catagory. I
>also agree
>that LARC, as any other amateur radio group should not be harassed by
>others
>
>Trish ...
>[e-mail] "The Vertical Skywave Girl"
>Mobile radio repair shop supervisor - City of San Jose, GSA-Communications
>

And they should refrain from flaunting their deviant desires in the face of
other!

--
Ron Klein
---------
[e-mail]


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From: [e-mail] (CRONIN)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: LARC: Gay Ham Club Activities
Date: 24 Dec 1995 14:00:17 GMT
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In article <[e-mail]>,
Doug Faunt N6TQS [phone] <[e-mail]> wrote:
>And maybe even Drew could understand that no amateur radio activity
>is involved in spreading HIV and AIDS.
>73, doug

But recruiting people to "squeal like a pig" does.

73..Jim


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From: [e-mail] (John Rouse / Capital Gazette)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: LARC: Gay Ham Club Activities
Date: 24 Dec 1995 06:14:32 GMT
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Get a life!

--
John L. Rouse                             Packet: [e-mail]
Capital-Gazette Communications            FAX: [phone]
[e-mail]                        Phone: [phone]
[e-mail]                             410-268-5000


From Unknown Wed Dec 27 18:38:46 1995
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From: [e-mail] (chris greenhalgh)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: LARC: Gay Ham Club Activities
Date: Sun, 24 Dec 1995 17:55:16 GMT
Organization: The Ohio State University
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In article <4bi0jc$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Drew Du
rigan) writes:

>Ok, Chris, 'ol buddy 'ol pal...in the spirit of Christmas, I'll give you
>this one.  I should have said SPREAD HIV, not CAUSE AIDS.  There.  Are
>you happy now?

I was never unhappy.

>I guess it stands to reason that you would know quite a bit more than I
>do about this particular subject, doesn't it?

Drews rash assumption, again, highly amuse me. Typical of him to infer
something about somebody because he cant debate and socaily communicate on a
civil manner.

Reading or otherwise seeking material on a subject is how one gains knoledge
about it. And TYPICAL peopole, do NOT spew garbage that was fabricated in
their own mind...then label it as "fact" publicly.

I think drew should keep up the good work so everyone can see who he really is
.

73, & happy holidays.


Im not sure I understand drew questions


From Unknown Wed Dec 27 18:38:47 1995
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From: [e-mail] (charles copeland)
Subject: Re: LARC: Gay Ham Club Activities
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest)
References: <[e-mail]> <4bi0jc$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]> <4bjmdh$[e-mail]>
Date: Sun, 24 Dec 1995 17:05:09 GMT
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Sender: [e-mail]

In article <4bjmdh$[e-mail]>,
CRONIN <[e-mail]> wrote:
>In article <[e-mail]>,
>Doug Faunt N6TQS [phone] <[e-mail]> wrote:
>>And maybe even Drew could understand that no amateur radio activity
>>is involved in spreading HIV and AIDS.
>>73, doug
>
>But recruiting people to "squeal like a pig" does.
>

And considering the Boy Scouts are very big on Ham radio,
LARC will find flaunting their ways on the air a very
serious situation with local authorities.




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From: [e-mail] (Drew Durigan)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: LARC: Gay Ham Club Activities
Date: 24 Dec 1995 21:51:50 GMT
Organization: Prodigy Services Company  1-800-PRODIGY
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>Reading or otherwise seeking material on a subject is how one gains
knoledge
>about it. And TYPICAL peopole, do NOT spew garbage that was fabricated
in
>their own mind...then label it as "fact" publicly.
>
>I think drew should keep up the good work so everyone can see who he
really is.

I think you should learn how to spell  ("peopole", "knoledge", etc.)  It
just may improve your credibility rating a bit on here.
>
>73, & happy holidays.
>
>
>Im not sure I understand drew questions

That doesn't surprise me, Chris.  Trust me...you DON'T understand.
That's the problem.  But at least we can agree on that much.

-Drew in Charlotte-
 KF4DDM



From Unknown Wed Dec 27 18:38:49 1995
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From: [e-mail] (James E. Bromley)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: LARC: Gay Ham Club Activities
Date: 26 Dec 1995 15:35:02 -0700
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In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] writes:


>The Lambda Amateur Radio Club (LARC), a U.S.-based international
>club for G/L/B/T ham radio operators...

What!  No W/K/N/A ham radio operators?

Oh... nevermind.




From Unknown Wed Dec 27 18:38:50 1995
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From: "H. Mark Nadel" <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: LIMARC  Hamfest - Freeport, NY
Date: Mon, 25 Dec 1995 22:33:52 -0800
Organization: Amateur Radio Station - NK2T / AFA1FX
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The Long Island Mobile Amateur Radio Club ( LIMARC ) invites all of you
toour Winter 1996 Hamfair. It will be On Sunday February 25, 1996 at the
Freeport Amory on Babylon Turnpike in Freeport, NY. Advance registration
is required for all those interested in selling. For additional details
call George, N2LSK at 516-286-7562.



--

"Always Available Through Technology"
                      * * *
Look For  R.A.D.I.O.  inc.
http://www.islandlink.com/radio/radio.htm
                      * * *


From Unknown Wed Dec 27 18:38:51 1995
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From: Burt Fisher <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: List Of Notable Amateurs [25 Dec 95]
Date: 25 Dec 1995 16:52:26 GMT
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Isn't the subject a contradiction?


#================#=====================================================#
|  Burt Fisher   |  Teacher of video, broadcasting and electronics     |
| Amateur call   |         South Dennis, Ma. (Cape Cod)                |
|    K1OIK       |  If you sit on the fence, it is a pain in the butt  |
#================#=====================================================#
| [e-mail]                            MAC is 5% of the market  |
#======================================================================#

Get a GIF of K1OIK by telnet://ccsnet.com and go to FREE downloads for
bf1pres.gif (hams never had such excitment!) or call 508-385-3427 and
download from file area 21 (free).




From Unknown Wed Dec 27 18:38:52 1995
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From: [e-mail]
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: List Of Notable Amateurs [25 Dec 95]
Date: Tue, 26 Dec 1995 22:48:59 GMT
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Burt Fisher <[e-mail]> wrote:

>
>Get a GIF of K1OIK by telnet://ccsnet.com and go to FREE downloads for
>bf1pres.gif (hams never had such excitment!) or call 508-385-3427 and
>download from file area 21 (free).


First there was Playboy centerfolds, now this!


         C. Dean Norris, Esq.
      Amateur Radio Station K7NO
      e-mail to [e-mail]



From Unknown Wed Dec 27 18:38:53 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Tedd Doda)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Looking for VHF/UHF contest logger.
Date: 27 Dec 1995 21:37:09 GMT
Organization: Lazer Audio and Electronics
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Greeting people. With the VHF and up contest coming up in a few weeks,
I was wondering if anyone has any suggestions for a logging program?
I *mostly* run OS/2, but have Windows (argh!) in the computer somewhere.
That way, I can run DOS,OS/2, or Windows. If you have a favorite program,
let me know where to find it (any internet utilities/www/ftp, etc) and
what you like about it.

Thanks, and good luck in the contest (I'll be running 6ssb/fm  2ssb/fm
432ssb/ 439 ATV/ 1253 FMTV and lastly 220 FM)

Best 73

Tedd

VE3TJD (EN93QJ)



From Unknown Wed Dec 27 18:38:54 1995
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Message-ID: <4bnecc$[e-mail]>
From: Scott Fraser <[e-mail]>
Subject: Los Angeles Marathon Ham Radio Page
Date: 26 Dec 1995 00:07:40 GMT
Approved: [e-mail]
Organization: Dolphin Scientific, Inc.
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From: Scott Fraser <[e-mail]>
Subject: Los Angeles Marathon Ham Radio Page
Date: 26 Dec 1995 00:07:40 GMT
Organization: Dolphin Scientific, Inc.
Message-ID: <4bnecc$[e-mail]>

Check out

http://www.wavenet.com/kn6f/

Contains information about the Amateur Radio effort for the Los Angeles
Marathon, along with electronic signup to work the marathon.

73's Scott Fraser, KN6F




From Unknown Wed Dec 27 18:38:55 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Scott Leaf)
Subject: Manual for ICOM IC-24AT Please!
Sender: [e-mail]
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Date: Mon, 25 Dec 1995 19:52:58 GMT
Reply-To: [e-mail]
Nntp-Posting-Host: ppp30.dowco.com
Organization: Mountain DX Club VA7SM
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I am in desperate need of the Manual for the ICOM Dual Band HT IC-24AT.

A photocopy would be just great and I will reimburse for your time and expense
s.

Please reply via E-Mail

--
Scott Leaf VE7ZVZ CN89os
[e-mail]
Port Coquitlam, British Columbia, Canada
Mountain DX Club VA7SM - "To boldy VHF where no ham has VHFed before"


From Unknown Wed Dec 27 18:38:56 1995
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From: Peter Cooper <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Meteosat Weather Reception
Date: Sun, 24 Dec 95 10:32:41 GMT
Organization: Peco
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Is there a newsgroup that discusses getting weather pictures from MeteoSat
and GOES geostationary satellites?

Cheers, 8-)

--
 PP  EEE TTT EEE  RR   _______-------~~~~~~~~~~-----------_________--------~~~
 P P E    T  E    R R       Author of the Basic fanzine + UV1
 PP  EE   T  EE   RR      wishes you a happy christmas and a happy new year
 P   E    T  E    R R
 E   EEE  T  EEE  R  R _______-------~~~~~~~~~~-----------_________--------~~~


From Unknown Wed Dec 27 18:38:57 1995
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From: Brian Webb <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: aus.radio.amsat,rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.space,rec.radio.shortwave
Subject: MFJ-1270C WEFAX Reception
Date: 24 Dec 1995 00:49:59 GMT
Organization: Umbra Research
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Xref: news.epix.net rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc:13318 rec.radio.amateur.misc:95963 rec.radio.amateur.space:6009 rec.radio.shortwave:67804

I just purchased an MFJ-1270C TNC. It has HF weather FAX
capability, but the user manual says virtually nothing about how
to use this feature. Does anybody know how to command the unit
for WEFAX reception and the tuning offset to use with my HF
receiver?

73s

Brian Webb, KD6NRP


From Unknown Wed Dec 27 18:38:58 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Keith Wyatt)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: MIR Season greetings & UPS Delivers!
Date: 23 Dec 95 08:17:01 GMT
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At 05:25 PM 12/22/95, you wrote:
>
>Because of some missing parts, including a diplexer for the
>dual-band antenna, 70-centimeter activity from Mir has been delayed.
>These parts and a 9600-baud TNC are on their way to Mir now.
>Frequencies to be used are 437.925 MHz for voice and 437.975 MHz for
>packet, simplex mode.
>NNNN
>/EX
>
>

No doubt this parts are being shipped by UPS as the above message was written!
Merry Christmas MIR. By the way how is the weather?
Keith Wyatt <[e-mail]>
Peace through understanding.


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From Unknown Wed Dec 27 18:38:59 1995
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From: "Joseph P. Feehan" <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: morse code tranier
Date: 22 Dec 1995 22:52:06 GMT
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[e-mail] (Jack Yazel) wrote:
>Jason Rossi ([e-mail]) wrote:
>
>
>: if you want a realy good morse code tranier look under   oak.oakland.edu
>: the software is called super morse... it help me memberized
Yes, Yes. I've noticed that speed problem too -- on a fast
laptop.
It's a good program tho.    VP2VBL




From Unknown Wed Dec 27 18:39:00 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Mazalr and Earl Rubin)
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Subject: Motorola Microphones - info request
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Motorola makes some nice mobile mics marked "HMN3596A"  (black plastic case,
three screws in the back and with the metal attachment button). I picked up
a few in the usual place.

Does anyone know how to connect these new style microphones to older
Motorola gear such as Mocom series transceivers?  The mic connectors on the
Mocom series give you 12 V through a resistor which appears to be the
collector resistor of the amp which is an integral part of the capsul in the
"old style" mics.

The HMN3596A has 4 wires        red     PTT
                                black   ground
                                blue    ??
                                green   ??

There must be someone out there who still plays around with radios and knows
about these things -- if so please take a few minutes from philosiphizing
about gay cw to reply ...  thanks.

Earl
4Z4TJ
Earl and Mazal Rubin  4Z4TJ  Beer Sheva Israel   [e-mail]
                             Dust Capital of the World



From Unknown Wed Dec 27 18:39:01 1995
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From: [e-mail]
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Need RS MOD for DX-392
Date: 27 Dec 1995 03:23:06 GMT
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Does anyone have a modification to disable the "receiver muting while
tuning" on the radio shack dx-392?  i have a mod for a dx390 but it is
not similar inside. please email me at [e-mail]   thanks

Tom Medlin, WA5KUB
[e-mail]



From Unknown Wed Dec 27 18:39:02 1995
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From: [e-mail](Wanda M Desmond )
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.misc,sci.electronics,rec.radio.swap
Subject: NEED Schematic for DTMF decoder Using SSI202P chip
Date: 24 Dec 1995 00:48:51 GMT
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Title pretty much says it all. Need a schematic for a DTMF decoder
using the SSI202P chip (I picked up three of the chips at a swap meet
for a buck each, they were still sealed in their Rat Shack packaging).

I need a unit that is handheld, uses an LCD screen, and is not
connected to a computer.

Thanks!!

John
KE6TGN


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From: [e-mail] (John Lundgren)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.misc,sci.electronics,rec.radio.swap
Subject: Re: NEED Schematic for DTMF decoder Using SSI202P chip
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Date: 25 Dec 1995 07:25:22 GMT
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Wanda M Desmond ([e-mail]) penned:
: Title pretty much says it all. Need a schematic for a DTMF decoder
: using the SSI202P chip (I picked up three of the chips at a swap meet
: for a buck each, they were still sealed in their Rat Shack packaging).

: I need a unit that is handheld, uses an LCD screen, and is not
: connected to a computer.

: Thanks!!
: John
: KE6TGN

If you got R-S parts, then the schematic should be stapled to the
package.  It had several pages of info, basically the whole data sheet.
If you need it, SASE and I'll send a copy.

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From: [e-mail] (ME)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.misc,sci.electronics,rec.radio.swap
Subject: Re: NEED Schematic for DTMF decoder Using SSI202P chip
Date: 27 Dec 1995 04:18:38 GMT
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In article <4bi81j$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] says...
>
>Title pretty much says it all. Need a schematic for a DTMF decoder
>using the SSI202P chip (I picked up three of the chips at a swap meet
>for a buck each, they were still sealed in their Rat Shack packaging).
>
>I need a unit that is handheld, uses an LCD screen, and is not
>connected to a computer.

I used a Motorola 67805P3 microcontroller to do something like this. Reads
the BCD from the SSI202, and decodes it to control functions, if this info
might help let me know, but there may be a stumbling block in writing the
code for the purpose, and display driver.

-G



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From: [e-mail] (Clark Savage Turner WA3JPG)
Subject: Need Yaesu email address
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Lines: 7
Date: 22 Dec 95 18:47:54 GMT
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc

I need to contact Yaesu, and recall a nice email conversation
with Kevin Karamanos of Yaesu over the FT 1000MP, but, darn, lost
the email address.  Anyone have Kevin's address or another Yaesu
email address?

Clark
WA3JPG


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From: [e-mail] (John Ferguson)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Need Yaesu email address
Date: Sat, 23 Dec 1995 19:22:07 GMT
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[e-mail] (Clark Savage Turner WA3JPG) wrote:

I just found that Yeasu has a web page http://www.yeasu.com. Didn't see any
specific email addresses but you could try to send to [e-mail] and
ask for it.

John
KI7HE

>I need to contact Yaesu, and recall a nice email conversation
>with Kevin Karamanos of Yaesu over the FT 1000MP, but, darn, lost
>the email address.  Anyone have Kevin's address or another Yaesu
>email address?
>
>Clark
>WA3JPG



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From: [e-mail] (Lou Milrad)
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You may wish to visit the York Region Amateur Radio Club's Homepage at:

HTTP://www.openstore.com:80/ve3yra/

Hope you enjoy it.

73 de VE3TRY
--
Lou Milrad
[e-mail]


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Also see WEB Site at for interesting Ham Radio
Links.URL:http://www.localnet.com/~wa1sov/




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From: [e-mail] (Ed Mitchell)
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In article <4bmkv2$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] says...
>
>Also see WEB Site at for interesting Ham Radio
>Links.URL:http://www.localnet.com/~wa1sov/
>
>

Check out Ham Radio Online at
http://www.accessone.com/~vbook/hronline.htm

Newsletters, Feature Stories, Real-time solar and radio propagation conditions
,
real-time disaster communications news (world wide earthquake, volcanic and
severe weather reports). In short, real content, not just pointers to
hyperspace.

73, Ed, KF7VY
------------------------
personal email to [e-mail]
Visit Ham Radio Online, it's free, at
http://www.accessone.com/~vbook/hronline.htm



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http://www.gti.net/mcdowell


From Unknown Wed Dec 27 18:39:11 1995
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From: [e-mail] (gregory brown)
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Subject: Re: No Code Solution
Date: 22 Dec 1995 04:44:03 GMT
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Bill Sohl  Budd Lake ([e-mail]) wrote:
: gregory brown ([e-mail]) wrote:
: : Robert Moldenhauer ([e-mail]) wrote:

: : : Comrade,

: : : If CW was so much fun why do you have to force people to learn it?  If i
t'a fun
: : : then you can eliminate the test and people will still keep doing it.
: : : The test become irrellevant.  Your thinking reminds me of the old Soviet
 Union.

: : And your thinking reminds me of a school-child complaining about
: : learning the alphabet.  After all, being able to read, write, and even
: : post to usenet is sure fun...so why should we keep forcing those kids
: : to learn the alphabet? They'll surely pick it up on their own, won't
: : they?

: The alphabet is a fundamental building block for all education vis-a-vis
: ones ability to read...and no, not everyone will do it just because it
: is fun.  In contrast, CW is no longer a required stepping stone to anything
: in contemporary radio technology.  It may be fun, but it sure isn't
: required of anyone involved in technology of today.

Bill, the comment you made said nothing about importance or utility,
only that "if something is fun (after you learn it), you don't need to
force people to learn it."  That is bunk.  Whether or not it is
important is another argument altogether, and that boils down to a
matter of perspective and opinion, not empirical right or wrong.  In
any event, your basic premise is still wrong..."Comrade".
("Comrade", Geez, what a joke.)

Greg




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From: [e-mail] (Bill Sohl  Budd Lake)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: No Code Solution
Date: 22 Dec 1995 22:05:29 GMT
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Peter Coffee AC6EN ([e-mail]) wrote:
:  >>> CW is no longer a required stepping stone to anything in
:  >>> contemporary radio technology

: Ummm.  This is a carrier.  It says, "I can oscillate."

: This is a modulated carrier.  It says anything you want it to say.
: Morse Code is the international standard for modulation of a carrier
: by means of on-off keying.  FM is the only mode that does not require
: the ability to control carrier amplitude as a prerequisite to conveying
: information.  And satellites, moonbounce, and QRP operation (all areas
: in which hams are doing interesting technical innovation) all have
: power budgets, phase shift characteristics, and/or path losses that make
: FM entirely impractical and maintain the utility of Morse Code.

No argument with any of that said...even though none of it justifies
or opposes what I said.

: On balance, the purposes of the Amateur Radio Service are advanced much
: more than they are held back by the influx of VHF/UHF operators that has
: taken place due to a license with no Morse requirement.  And if hams
: with other types of license would treat Technician Class licensees as
: folks who are halfway there, instead of treating them more rudely than
: they treat interested people with no license at all, then the whole
: atmosphere of the service would be improved.

AMEN to that!  I have had the pleasure of being the first contact for
about 3 or 4 new hams and I enjoy those contacts very much.  Sadly,
at least two of them happened after I listened to the new ham calling
for anyone to respond on a repeater and getting NO response from
people who obviously knew someone new was there.  It wasn't a repeater
I usually frequented, but I responded and made that new ham's day.
A few minutes of my time and a few operating procedures suggestions and
I hope that new ham is still around enjoying the hobby.

:  But Morse is still valuable,

I NEVER said morse had NO value.  I said it is no longer a basic element
of learning needed to understand, use or operate other contemporary
modes.

: just as riding a buicycle is still a valuable skill no matter how cheap
: cars may be compared to what they cost (in terms of purchasing power)
: twenty years ago.

BUT no one is forced to learn to ride a bike before getting a driver's
licence...peddle if you want to, just don't force everyone else to
do so.

:  Commercial services move to other modes based on
: costs of training and operator time -- but for us, those factors are
: by definition irrelevant. We do this because it's fun.

Testing for MORSE should not be baded on any rational other than a
well defined need to do so.  The fun or enjoyable aspect of any mode
does not and should not mandate it's use or knowledge.  In fact, if CW
is so much fun, than there will always be a segment of amateurs that
continue to use CW as well as a percentage of new amateurs that
will VOLUNTARILY learn CW and use it.  If fun is the only justification
(and I have not seen one credible argument to the contrary) then
(1) test only 5wpm to satisfy the international treaty (2) create CW only
subbands in each HF band and (3) reuire some higher than 5wpm CW
test element to operate in those CW only HF segments.

--
Cheers, ---------------------------------------------------------------
Bill Sohl  K2UNK     (Budd lake, New Jersey)      ([e-mail])
ARRL Local Government Liason, Mount Olive Township
-----------------------------------------------------------------------


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From: [e-mail] (WA8ULX)
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Subject: Re: No Code Solution
Date: 25 Dec 1995 09:13:13 -0500
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Great idea give the CB pluser all of HF no real testing required just
Memorization  do you really thing they would learn CW if you do your
kidding yourself


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From: [e-mail] (Michael P. Deignan)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: No-Code = Affirmative Action
Date: 23 Dec 1995 00:04:36 -0500
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[e-mail] (charles copeland) writes:

> What percentage upgrade to tech+ ?
> 20% general upgrades are pretty good considering the amount of time/effort
> needed to reach 13wpm. Todays busy world makes it difficult for
> people to commit that much time to just a hobby.

Excuses, excuses. "I don't know how to read. I should be exempt from
taking the theory too". Waaaaa...

> How does the quality of HAMS on VHF compare to say 80 meters?
> Everywhere in the country I've been VHF is full of well behaved
> polite respectable people.

You don't get to Rhode Island or South-Central LA much, huh?


> So no-code did not reduce VHF to CB standards as you old-timers
> were ringer your hands worrying about.

You forgot the "In my very inexperienced opinion" at the beginning
of your sentence.


> With stringent
> written tests

History has demonstrated that over time licensing requirements
are relaxed as more and more people want a hand-out from the
government.


> and no-code HF lisense, I'm sure the quality
> of VHF will be mirrored in no-code HF HAMS.

Oh, that's just >Wonderful<. Just yesterday I heard this bimbo on
the local 2 meter good-buddy box:

Bimbo (to friend): "I dunno, my raid-dee-oh seems to get really hot"
Friend: "Did you check the SWR on the antenna"
Bimbo: "Come on, you know I don't know anything about that kind of stuff".


Such a wonderful pool of trained radio operators the no-clue license
has given us.

MD
--
--
-- "Who needs looks when you've got taste?"
--


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From: [e-mail] (Michael P. Deignan)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: no-code=no-brain
Date: 22 Dec 1995 14:05:09 -0500
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In article <[e-mail]>,
        Scott Baldwin <[e-mail]> wrote:

>   There are quite a few people that are General Class or greater,
>that are just as "illiterate" as those no-codes they bash.
...
>I know an Advance who passed her tests
>by that exact method. She's still as stupid as she was when she was
>a Tech-Plus.

I'd agree wholeheartedly with this premise. The issue that many
"no code bashers" have isn't the fact that you cannot copy/send
morse, but rather deals with the fact that the licensing standards
are continuously being lowered, in an attempt to be "all inclusive"
so anyone who wants to be a ham can be a ham with little or no
effort.

There are the "no-clues" as well as the "instant Extras". Perhaps
the no-code license is taking the brunt of the heat associated with
this issue, because its the most recent sigificant event in
amateur radio that illustrates this fact. If you go back in time
you'll see that a similar occurances have happened before, for example
the novice enhancement and incentive licensing.

I have a great deal more respect for a "no-code" who shows up at a
local club meeting and will sit at the table with me pouring over
a schematic of my repeater so we can determine how to best integrate
the new controller than I do for the "extra" who simply sits there
and babbles about how to make a di-pole.

MD
--
--
-- "Who needs looks when you've got taste?"
--


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From: [e-mail] (Tom Randolph)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: no-code=no-brain
Date: 22 DEC 95 10:58:04
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In article <4b7lml$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Mark
A. Downing) writes...
>One or two 20 minute sessions a day should not be too difficult for anyone...

I'd agree with that. I set a cassette recorder next to a PC, made random code
tapes at various speeds with a code program, and brought 'em in to work. 15
minutes of practice with the headphones on while munching my sandwich. To get
to 20 WPM, I put the program on a PC in the lab, where I wouldn't disturb
anyone, and munched my sandwich there.

Commute? Got a cassette player in the car? You have time to do code. Twice a
day, even. Use a battery-powered cassette machine if you don't have one in the
dash.

While the NEED to know code is pretty much gone, the license requirements are
still there, and you're still going to have to meet them. Time isn't really an
excuse.

==============================================================================
Tom Randolph  N1OOQ  NE-QRP 419  QRP-L 87  ARRL      [e-mail]
==============================================================================


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From: [e-mail] (Stephan Rashkin)
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Subject: Re: no-code=no-brain
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[e-mail] (Drew Durigan) wrote:

>[e-mail] (Shawn Brown) wrote:
>>
>>In article <4b1i1r$[e-mail]>,
>>Michael P. Deignan <[e-mail]> spewed:
>>
>>>Interesting concept. You somehow had the "time" to get your Tech
>license.
>>>You somehow have the "time" to use your Tech license. But now when the
>>>issue shifts to "upgrading", you mysteriously no longer have the "time",

>>>with "school" being the convenient "out" for you. Typical welfare-
>state
>>>mentality justification for handouts.
>>
>>What a pathetic knee-jerk response.  Your grasp of linear logic astounds

>>us all.
>>
>>Yeah, I really want to upgrade so I can hang out with losers like
>yourself.
>>
>>Shawn

>Also sadly typical of the "pro-coder" mentality.  The (mistaken) belief
>that the ham bands belong to them and that anyone who cannot justify
>devoting a great deal of energy and time to learning something of which
>they have no use for, other than fufilling an "initiation rite", is not
>worthy of having the right to transmit on "their" frequencies.

>-Drew in Charlotte-
> KF4DDM

Still whining Drew?   Waaaaaaaaaa!   Waaaaaaaaaa!

Steve, WA2NHZ





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From: [e-mail] (Drew Durigan)
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Subject: Re: no-code=no-brain
Date: 23 Dec 1995 06:50:36 GMT
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>>Also sadly typical of the "pro-coder" mentality.  The (mistaken) belief

>>that the ham bands belong to them and that anyone who cannot justify
>>devoting a great deal of energy and time to learning something of which

>>they have no use for, other than fufilling an "initiation rite", is not

>>worthy of having the right to transmit on "their" frequencies.
>
>>-Drew in Charlotte-
>> KF4DDM
>
>Still whining Drew?   Waaaaaaaaaa!   Waaaaaaaaaa!
>
>Steve, WA2NHZ


And this is sadly typical of the pro-coder who cannot come up with a
convincing counter-argument to defend his position.  He therefore resorts
to cheap personal attacks and sarcastic comments as a poor substitute.

-Drew in Charlotte-
 KF4DDM



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From: [e-mail] (Stephan Rashkin)
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Subject: Re: no-code=no-brain
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[e-mail] (Drew Durigan) wrote:

>>>Also sadly typical of the "pro-coder" mentality.  The (mistaken) belief

>>>that the ham bands belong to them and that anyone who cannot justify
>>>devoting a great deal of energy and time to learning something of which

>>>they have no use for, other than fufilling an "initiation rite", is not

>>>worthy of having the right to transmit on "their" frequencies.
>>
>>>-Drew in Charlotte-
>>> KF4DDM
>>
>>Still whining Drew?   Waaaaaaaaaa!   Waaaaaaaaaa!
>>
>>Steve, WA2NHZ


>And this is sadly typical of the pro-coder who cannot come up with a
>convincing counter-argument to defend his position.  He therefore resorts
>to cheap personal attacks and sarcastic comments as a poor substitute.

>-Drew in Charlotte-
> KF4DDM


Dear Drew,

We had our local boy scout and cup scout troop over last night for
their Christmas party and they had a message for you that I thought
was not really acceptable considering it's Christmas and all...They
just completed code courses and out of 11 of them, 9 have their
novices and 2 have their generals and operate CW on 40 and 80 with
boatanchors and homebrews..The generals enjoy both a mix of CW
and SSB.  These kids say that you are clueless..They feel that CW is
the most basic form of communication that can be used in the
worst case situation..whether it be with flashlights, mirrors, or
banging on tree trunks...The kids feel that CW is a symbolic entry
into the world of advanced communication...anybody with a ham
ticket should be able to build a simple oscillator and key it with a
couple wires..

Because it is Christmas, all "I" can say to you is,  "Merry Christmas"

Steve, WA2NHZ






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From: [e-mail] (Drew Durigan)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: no-code=no-brain
Date: 24 Dec 1995 07:27:30 GMT
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>These kids say that you are clueless.

I would suggest that if these kids were really the best and the brightest,
 they would be spending their time learning about computers, digital
signal processing and transmission, etc.  In other words, useful
knowledge that will prepare them for life and profitable careers in the
21st century...instead of wasting their time on an 19th century
technology like Morse Code.  Are you teaching them how to communicate via
smoke signals, too?

-Drew in Charlotte-
 KF4DDM



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From: [e-mail] (Stephan Rashkin)
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[e-mail] (Drew Durigan) wrote:

>>These kids say that you are clueless.

>I would suggest that if these kids were really the best and the brightest,
> they would be spending their time learning about computers, digital
>signal processing and transmission, etc.  In other words, useful
>knowledge that will prepare them for life and profitable careers in the
>21st century...instead of wasting their time on an 19th century
>technology like Morse Code.  Are you teaching them how to communicate via
>smoke signals, too?

>-Drew in Charlotte-
> KF4DDM

***************************************************
Dear Mama's Boy,

Again and again your overwhelming ignorance shines through...
These kids are all advanced students..three of them are in a
gifted program and can run circles around you even on one
of your rare good days..eight of them took intermediate computer
courses this past summer at the local college..

I read some of your comments on another thread about HIV/AIDS..
you are one ignorant ass hole..I have no tolerance for homosexuals,
but AIDS/HIV is way beyond that now..I guess you can't be taken
seriously..I now feel that it's great that Morse Code can be a filter
to keep a fool like you off of HF..See you later loser...

Oh yes.."Merry Christmas" ..

Steve, WA2NHZ




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From: [e-mail] (Stephan Rashkin)
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[e-mail] (Stephan Rashkin) wrote:

>[e-mail] (Drew Durigan) wrote:

>>>These kids say that you are clueless.

>>I would suggest that if these kids were really the best and the brightest,
>> they would be spending their time learning about computers, digital
>>signal processing and transmission, etc.  In other words, useful
>>knowledge that will prepare them for life and profitable careers in the
>>21st century...instead of wasting their time on an 19th century
>>technology like Morse Code.  Are you teaching them how to communicate via
>>smoke signals, too?

>>-Drew in Charlotte-
>> KF4DDM

>***************************************************
>Dear Mama's Boy,

>Again and again your overwhelming ignorance shines through...
>These kids are all advanced students..three of them are in a
>gifted program and can run circles around you even on one
>of your rare good days..eight of them took intermediate computer
>courses this past summer at the local college..

>I read some of your comments on another thread about HIV/AIDS..
>you are one ignorant ass hole..I have no tolerance for homosexuals,
>but AIDS/HIV is way beyond that now..I guess you can't be taken
>seriously..I now feel that it's great that Morse Code can be a filter
>to keep a fool like you off of HF..See you later loser...

>Oh yes.."Merry Christmas" ..

>Steve, WA2NHZ

Drew..
oooooops!  I forgot...I received a few pieces of E-mail about you..
It seems there are those who are interested in how many years
you have been licensed as an amateur radio operator..I am also
curious about this...I would like to coorelate this with your attitude
and experience on ham radio..

Steve, WA2NHZ



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From: [e-mail] (Drew Durigan)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: no-code=no-brain
Date: 24 Dec 1995 17:30:14 GMT
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>I now feel that it's great that Morse Code can be a filter
>to keep a fool like you off of HF.

I think you better learn how to access a callsign server.  I passed my
code; I have access to HF.  A common (mis) assumption by you no-coder
types who (mistakenly) believe that you own the bands is that all those
who are opposed to mandatory CW requirements are no-code techs who "are
just too lazy to learn the code."  Wrong

>See you later loser...

Much later, I hope.  And only when you get your facts straight.

-Drew in Charlotte-
 KF4DDM


PS...If you want to see first-hand how effective of a filter Morse Code
is "to keep (fools) off of HF", try 75-meters on any given night.



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From: [e-mail] (Drew Durigan)
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Subject: Re: no-code=no-brain
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>Drew..
>oooooops!  I forgot...I received a few pieces of E-mail about you..
>It seems there are those who are interested in how many years
>you have been licensed as an amateur radio operator..I am also
>curious about this...I would like to coorelate this with your attitude
>and experience on ham radio..

Again, if you could only learn how to read a callsign server, you would
know the answer to your question.  But what difference does it make?
None, unless you're one of those types who believes that the worth of an
amateur radio operator is determined primarily by the length of time that
he has been licensed.  Most of these folks are also adamant pro-coders
who (mistakenly) believe that the amateur bands belong to them.

Ham radio is not a priivate little "club" for you and your friends.  Ham
radio is a hobby, open and available to all who can (and do) pass the
tests and receive their licenses.  This is by virtue of the fact that the
amateur radio service utilizes publicly-owned radio frequencies.  There
are quite a few of you who are still bellyaching about the no-code
license, commenting to each other about what a "mistake" it was.  Too bad.
  You don't own the bands and you don't make the rules.  Ditto for no-
code HF access.  At some time in the future, the raw numbers of those
requesting access will become politically-sufficient to allow the rules
to be changed.  The question is not "if" but, rather, "when."  When it
happens, there's nothing you or your friends will be able to do about it.



-Drew in Charlotte-
 KF4DDM



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In article <4bk2n6$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Drew Du
rigan) writes:

>Much later, I hope.  And only when you get your facts straight.

>-Drew in Charlotte-
> KF4DDM


"Get YOUR facts staight."? Now this is funny...a big HO HO HO just in time for

Christmas.

73, Chris.




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In article <4bjdpp$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Stephan
Rashkin) writes:

>Drew..
>oooooops!  I forgot...I received a few pieces of E-mail about you..
>It seems there are those who are interested in how many years
>you have been licensed as an amateur radio operator..I am also
>curious about this...I would like to coorelate this with your attitude
>and experience on ham radio..

>Steve, WA2NHZ

Steve.

Drew has been licensed for about 3 months. He is a know-it-all, been there,
done that, whinny little kid who will insult, harrass, make assumption, call
names, and attack you if you if you dont aggree to his line of thinking. He
has also been caught here lieing, fabricating information, and mislabeling
facts.

If you want others to know about drew...just write him back with a polite and
civil disagreement...and watch the spewage begin!

Take care Steve, & happy holidays.



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In <4bk2n6$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Drew
Durigan) writes:

>A common (mis) assumption by you no-coder
>types who (mistakenly) believe that you own the bands...

Please identify all those no-coders who believe they own the bands.  I
really want to know who they are.  Since you say it's a common belief,
a listing of the first hundred will be enough.

73,
Mike, KK6GM



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In article <4bjdpp$[e-mail]>, [e-mail]
(Stephan Rashkin) writes:

>who are interested in how many years
>you have been licensed as an amateur radio operator..

i believe it's 5 MONTHS!!!!

but he already had DXCC Honor roll..all with 5 watts on 10 meters.   I
think that this is
the 1st QRP H.R. awarded

Happy holidays   steve


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 A common (mis) assumption by you no-coder
>types who (mistakenly) believe that you own the bands is that all those

>who are opposed to mandatory CW requirements are no-code techs who "are

>just too lazy to learn the code."  Wrong


Please excuse the typographical error.  Sentence should have read "A
common (mis) assumption by you PRO-coder types who mistakenly believe
that you own the bands..."

Thank you for bringing it to my attention.  Carry on.

-Drew in Charlotte-
 KF4DDM





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In <4bivd2$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Drew Durigan)
writes:
>>These kids say that you are clueless.
>
>I would suggest that if these kids were really the best and the brightest,
> they would be spending their time learning about computers, digital
>signal processing and transmission, etc.  In other words, useful
>knowledge that will prepare them for life and profitable careers in the
>21st century...instead of wasting their time on an 19th century
>technology like Morse Code.  Are you teaching them how to communicate via
>smoke signals, too?
>
Drew, believe it or not, there actually is a real-world place for all of those
modes of communication.  I'm a leader in a Boy Scout troop, and we are
teaching a number of "antiquated technologies" to the boys, including both
morse and semaphore (not smoke signals though, not yet) as part of their
communications requirements.  And, believe it or not, it was NOT my idea
to do that...it came from some non-ham scout leaders, a couple of whom
make their livings programming computers!  Your modern technology will
not do you a lot of good when you're in the wilderness somewhere, out
of range of a cell-phone tower or with a dead battery because you fell out
of your canoe into the water and it got wet.  Whether to require people to
learn older methods as requirements for a license (or Scout rank advance-
ment) is a separate issue, that really isn't being addressed in this thread
anymore, but I don't think you should run people down because they choose
to spend some of their time learning modes you think are obsolete.

73 - Alan Braun NS0B




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[e-mail] (Drew Durigan) wrote:

>>I now feel that it's great that Morse Code can be a filter
>>to keep a fool like you off of HF.

>I think you better learn how to access a callsign server.  I passed my
>code; I have access to HF.  A common (mis) assumption by you no-coder
>types who (mistakenly) believe that you own the bands is that all those
>who are opposed to mandatory CW requirements are no-code techs who "are
>just too lazy to learn the code."  Wrong

>>See you later loser...

>Much later, I hope.  And only when you get your facts straight.

>-Drew in Charlotte-
> KF4DDM




You are truly an ass!..The callsign server only lists the dates of
the last change to a license and the expiration not necessarily
when that person upgraded...yes I read a post of your claiming to
have worked all this DX..and the flame you got about being a
big "know-it-all" and after only being licensed for 3 months!!!
Ha Ha Ha Ha!.....No you don't have HF access..you hate code
remember?  So you might as well have no access...Three months?
Here I thought maybe you have been licensed for a few years!!
Ha Ha Ha!  Now I have even less respect for you than I did before,
and that's difficult, because I didn't have any respect for you in the
first place..Little wannabe "ham radio infant"..Ha Ha Ha!..3 months
and he knows all there is to know!  Well I guess I have to look at
your stupidity in a different light now..I pretty much have you
figured out now..."a chronic loser, a whiner, a malcontent, a mere
spoiled pouting brat that has to have it his way..one that believes
the only rules are his rules and crap on everyone else."  Well
mama's boy forget it...3MONTHS AND HE'S AN EXPERT!!!!
HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Have a Merry Christmas

Steve, WA2NHZ
.
ps  I have been using call servers for several years....my own CD's
plus packet bbs servers...So tell me about it "pupa boy".  I'll match
my digital knowledge and experience against you any second of the
day...






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[e-mail] wrote:

>In <4bivd2$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Drew Durigan)
 writes:
>>>These kids say that you are clueless.
>>
>>I would suggest that if these kids were really the best and the brightest,
>> they would be spending their time learning about computers, digital
>>signal processing and transmission, etc.  In other words, useful
>>knowledge that will prepare them for life and profitable careers in the
>>21st century...instead of wasting their time on an 19th century
>>technology like Morse Code.  Are you teaching them how to communicate via
>>smoke signals, too?
>>
>Drew, believe it or not, there actually is a real-world place for all of thos
e
>modes of communication.  I'm a leader in a Boy Scout troop, and we are
>teaching a number of "antiquated technologies" to the boys, including both
>morse and semaphore (not smoke signals though, not yet) as part of their
>communications requirements.  And, believe it or not, it was NOT my idea
>to do that...it came from some non-ham scout leaders, a couple of whom
>make their livings programming computers!  Your modern technology will
>not do you a lot of good when you're in the wilderness somewhere, out
>of range of a cell-phone tower or with a dead battery because you fell out
>of your canoe into the water and it got wet.  Whether to require people to
>learn older methods as requirements for a license (or Scout rank advance-
>ment) is a separate issue, that really isn't being addressed in this thread
>anymore, but I don't think you should run people down because they choose
>to spend some of their time learning modes you think are obsolete.

>73 - Alan Braun NS0B


Hi Alan,
Nice to meet another Scout leader.  It's really a waste of time trying
to have a rational discussion with Drew...He has proven it time and
time again no matter what the subject .He is just a lazy, self
centered lout that takes pride in tearing down wholesome institutions.
Give him time and he'd even want to destroy scouting..Gone would
be the campouts--unnecessary because more practical to have
the scouts lease a condo....forget first-aid---911 is easier--don't
wear a uniform--leisure suits are in...cookouts--no way..room
service..He would change Webelos scouts from being curious,
interested, enthusiastic, and active to why bother, who cares,
I can't, I need my nap now..

Merry Christmas to you and
your scouts from Cub Scout Pack 515
and Girl Scout Troop 862

Steve, WA2NHZ





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[e-mail] (chris greenhalgh) wrote:

>In article <4bjdpp$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Stephan
 Rashkin) writes:

>>Drew..
>>oooooops!  I forgot...I received a few pieces of E-mail about you..
>>It seems there are those who are interested in how many years
>>you have been licensed as an amateur radio operator..I am also
>>curious about this...I would like to coorelate this with your attitude
>>and experience on ham radio..

>>Steve, WA2NHZ

>Steve.

>Drew has been licensed for about 3 months. He is a know-it-all, been there,
>done that, whinny little kid who will insult, harrass, make assumption, call
>names, and attack you if you if you dont aggree to his line of thinking. He
>has also been caught here lieing, fabricating information, and mislabeling
>facts.

>If you want others to know about drew...just write him back with a polite and

>civil disagreement...and watch the spewage begin!

>Take care Steve, & happy holidays.

Merry Christmas to you too Chris..

Yes I agree...mail I have received from others also reflects this.
He in no way resembles other hams on their upward direction
in the hobby/service..Upgrading as one's interest grows can be
fun..no one has to rush..It's a life-long interest, but he tends to
cover it with a dark pessimistic cloud that can corrode a new
amateur's morale.

73's
Steve, WA2NHZ





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[e-mail] (chris greenhalgh) wrote:
>
>In article <4bk2n6$[e-mail]> [e-mail]
(Drew Durigan) writes:
>
>>Much later, I hope.  And only when you get your facts straight.
>
>>-Drew in Charlotte-
>> KF4DDM
>
>
>"Get YOUR facts staight."? Now this is funny...a big HO HO HO just in
time for
>Christmas.

Chris, would you PLEASE learn how to spell correctly?!  ("staight?")  It
really diminishes what little credibility you have when you constantly
demonstrate that you are incapable of correctly spelling simple words,
correct punctuation, correct grammar, etc.  Put the code key down, pick
up the dictionary, and maybe you'll learn something useful for a change.

-Drew in Charlotte-
 KF4DDM



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>>who are interested in how many years
>>you have been licensed as an amateur radio operator..
>
>i believe it's 5 MONTHS!!!!

Nope.  Only 3-and-a-half.  Actually, getting closer to four now.

But I repeat the question...what difference does it make?

-Drew in Charlotte-
 KF4DDM



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[e-mail] (Christopher Greenhalgh) wrote:
>
>In article <4bl0vt$[e-mail]> [e-mail]
(Drew Durigan) writes:
>
>>[e-mail] (KF2TI) Steve wrote:
>
>>>licensed for 4 months
>>>already DXCC with 5 watts on 10 meters using a coat hanger for a
>>cubical
>>>quad
>
>>Your words, not mine.  I wish I could take credit for an achievement
like
>>this..but unfortunately, even I'm not THAT good! <g>
>
>>-Drew in Charlotte-
>> KF4DDM
>
>Steve is correct, and drew is lieing (again). Drew did in fact make this
claim
>in a previous post.


Where, Chris?  Where's your proof?  Since it was never said by me, you
have none.  If you do, then by all means accept my invitation for you to
prove me wrong.  Put up or shut up, in other words.

While you're at it, will you PLEASE learn how to spell!  ("lieing")  You
have no idea how foolish this makes you look...to consistently misspell,
misuse, and mispunctuate words every time you post on here.

I feel sorry for you, Chris.  I really do.  Poor little meathead.

-Drew in Charlotte-
 KF4DDM



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[e-mail] (Drew Durigan) wrote:

>How about some specifics, Chris...'ol buddy, 'ol pal?

>-Drew in Charlotte-
> KF4DDM

Look out Chris...I think drew is trying to climb in your pants..kissy
kissy..'ol buddy, Drew wants to play "drop the soap" 'ol pal..next
he'll be telling you how beautiful you are while you type..

Chris are you this guys "buddy" or "pal"...maybe you better
set him "straight"

Steve, Wa2NHZ




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[e-mail] (Drew Durigan) wrote:

>>How about some specifics, Chris...'ol buddy, 'ol pal?  You keep making
>these libelous statements on here against me; I have given you several
>opportunities to cite your sources and produce the neccessary proof to
>back up your claims, but you never do.  Instead, you choose to ignore the
>issue and persist with your name-calling and personal insults.  Why is
>that?

>-Drew in Charlotte-
> KF4DDM

uuuhhh? Cause you're a jerk?

Steve, WA2NHZ




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In article <4bkhpm$[e-mail]>, KF2TI <[e-mail]> wrote:

>i believe it's 5 MONTHS!!!!
>
>but he already had DXCC Honor roll..all with 5 watts on 10 meters.   I
>think that this is
>the 1st QRP H.R. awarded
>
>Happy holidays   steve


Are you sure, Steve? I thought it was 5-band QRP DXCC.

MD
--
--
-- "Who needs looks when you've got taste?"
--


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>You are truly an ass!..The callsign server only lists the dates of
>the last change to a license and the expiration not necessarily
>when that person upgraded.

That's funny.  Everytime I do a lookup it gives me the name, call, date
of licensing, and LICENSE CLASS!  My initial grant was for a coded class
of license, so that is what would be listed on whatever callsign server
you choose to use.  Duh!  Better try again.

>yes I read a post of your claiming to have worked all this DX

Where?  I never claimed to have worked "all this DX"; you're just
repeating a third-hand story that you heard from someone else on this
newsgroup.

>No you don't have HF access..you hate code remember?  So you might as
well have no access...Three months?

What does one have to do with the other?  At the present time, Morse
proficiency is required in order to obtain operating privileges below
30Mhz.  Besides, it's a much bigger thorn in the side of you pro-coders
when someone who HAS passed a Morse test comes out in favor of
eliminating the code requirements because you can't use your tired old,
stereotypical line that "they don't want to work for it", "they're too
lazy", etc.  Maybe that's why I bother you people so much; you can't
simply write me off as a "lazy no-coder" like you do with the others.

>Here I thought maybe you have been licensed for a few years!!
>Ha Ha Ha!  Now I have even less respect for you than I did before,
>and that's difficult, because I didn't have any respect for you in the
>first place..Little wannabe "ham radio infant"..Ha Ha Ha!..3 months
>and he knows all there is to know!

I also have 12 years' worth of commercial-grade radio experience,
including the engineering department.  Do you want to compare notes,
abilities, real-life experiences, even aptitudes?  If you're going to
judge someone's technical ability and, therefore, (in your mind) their
self-worth solely by the length of time they have held their amateur
radio license, you are more narrrow-minded and ignorant than I thought
you were.

>I pretty much have you figured out now..."a chronic loser, a whiner, a
>malcontent, a mere spoiled pouting brat that has to have it his way..one
that >believes the only rules are his rules and crap on everyone else."
Well
>mama's boy forget it...3MONTHS AND HE'S AN EXPERT!!!!
>HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA!!!!!!!!!!!!!

And you are sadly typical of your kind; an adamant pro-coder who believes
that your way is the only way.  Hey, "if I had to do it, they should have
to do it too", right?  The no-coders aren't "real hams."  Never mind that
this is 1995 and the code has long been replaced by more efficient
methods of communication, or that even the military no longer uses it, or
that the percentage of hams who actually use the code has been in decline
for quite some time...no, you people just have to have your precious
little "initiation rite" into your "private club" of amateur radio.
Guess what?  It ain't so!  A harsh reality, but one that you need to face.
  The sooner, the better.  Judging from the record-setting numbers of new
hams coming to the hobby (of which the overwhelming majority are no-code
techs and have absolutely no interest in learning an antiquated means of
communication like Morse), your kind are going to get rarer and rarer on
the bands.  The raw numbers of those demanding no-code HF access will
soon make it a politically neccessary to begin changing the rules to
accomodate these folks.  That's the way it is.  No amount of personal
attacks, name calling, or insults directed towards me is going to change
what is inevitably coming our way.

-Drew in Charlotte-
 KF4DDM



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In article <4bl0vt$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Drew Du
rigan) writes:

>[e-mail] (KF2TI) Steve wrote:

>>licensed for 4 months
>>already DXCC with 5 watts on 10 meters using a coat hanger for a
>cubical
>>quad

>Your words, not mine.  I wish I could take credit for an achievement like
>this..but unfortunately, even I'm not THAT good! <g>

>-Drew in Charlotte-
> KF4DDM

Steve is correct, and drew is lieing (again). Drew did in fact make this claim

in a previous post.

Happy holidays, & 73.





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[e-mail] (Drew Durigan) wrote:

>>You are truly an ass!..The callsign server only lists the dates of
>>the last change to a license and the expiration not necessarily
>>when that person upgraded.

>That's funny.  Everytime I do a lookup it gives me the name, call, date
>of licensing, and LICENSE CLASS!  My initial grant was for a coded class
>of license, so that is what would be listed on whatever callsign server
>you choose to use.  Duh!  Better try again.

Asswipe I was giving an example of dates/time frames..Of course it
gives name etc...Duh! Do you have problems concentrating?

>>yes I read a post of your claiming to have worked all this DX

>Where?  I never claimed to have worked "all this DX"; you're just
>repeating a third-hand story that you heard from someone else on this
>newsgroup.
It's hard to keep your little lies straight isn't it..Lots of
witnesses..
>>No you don't have HF access..you hate code remember?  So you might as
>well have no access...Three months?



>I also have 12 years' worth of commercial-grade radio experience,
>including the engineering department.  Do you want to compare notes,
>abilities, real-life experiences, even aptitudes?

Yeah let's compare..
I have been in electronics for most of my life..I started building
transmitters and receivers over 37 years ago..I have worked in
the 2-way radio field and the broadcast field (engineering and
repair) I worked in military ECM, PMEL, as well as being
in a flight crew..I have had a 2nd Class Radiotelegraph as
well as a 1st Class Radiotelephone class license with radar
endorsement I have gone from novice and then through the ranks
to extra taking exams in person at the FCC with real exams when you
still had to explain in essay form and draw schematics...I am now a
(since 1981) VLSI electronic engineer designing high density
propriatory Ic's and circuit integration for biomedical robotic
platforms...I still homebrew, and love playing with boatanchors..I
have a private pilots license and do aviation radio repair part time
at a local depot..(also did some at old Dow AFB when in A&E squadron).

...oh yes by the way I spent 3 years just in South East
Asia while in the USAF.( Vietnam Era) .and not as a "road guard"
I tried never to miss more that a  day on Hf ham radio, even
if it was from the cockpit of a B52..

Awwww!  Sorry no comparison...I was playing pirate radio with a
Meisner Signal shifter, homebrew wireless mike, and homebrew amplifier
and getting neigbors to call a payphone to answer contest questions
when I was in grade school..big deal!!  Frank, WA2KOS, Karl, WA2KBZ
remember that?..Yeah Drew let's compare..
Sorry Drew, but your are a WASTE OF SKIN...


>And you are sadly typical of your kind; an adamant pro-coder who believes
>that your way is the only way.  Hey, "if I had to do it, they should have
>to do it too", right?  The no-coders aren't "real hams."  Never mind that

Nope...What I believe is your way is a losers way...your way takes
something and makes noting out of it.

>-Drew in C
> KF4DDM





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From: [e-mail] (KF2TI)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: no-code=no-brain
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In article <4bko8u$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] writes:

>>>These kids say that you are clueless.
>>
>>I would suggest that if these kids were really the best and the
brightest,
>> they would be spending their time learning about computers, digital
>>signal processing and transmission, etc.  In other words, useful
>>knowledge that will prepare them for life and profitable careers in the
>>21st century...instead of wasting their time on an 19th century
>>technology like Morse Code.  Are you teaching them how to communicate
via
>>smoke signals, too?

Alan, forget abt Drew.  I would stack anyone of my scouts against him in
the woods in the middle of winter for 3 days...and see who comes out..

i'll even spot drew all his digital equipment (fat lot that will do in the
middle of no where)

guarantee drew will be cq'ing his little heart out, while the scout is
staying warm and comfortable by a fire he built


73,

Yours in scouting and amateur radio

steve  ASM Landing, NJ  Troop 188


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In article <4bk3he$[e-mail]>, [e-mail]
(Drew Durigan) writes:

>Drew in Charlotte-
> KF4DDM
>
>

licensed for 4 months
already DXCC with 5 watts on 10 meters using a coat hanger for a cubical
quad

Happy Holidays

steve


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[e-mail] (KF2TI) wrote:

>>Drew in Charlotte-
>> KF4DDM
>>
>>
>
>licensed for 4 months
>already DXCC with 5 watts on 10 meters using a coat hanger for a
cubical
>quad

Your words, not mine.  I wish I could take credit for an achievement like
this..but unfortunately, even I'm not THAT good! <g>

-Drew in Charlotte-
 KF4DDM




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[e-mail] (chris greenhalgh) wrote:

>Drew has been licensed for about 3 months. He is a know-it-all, been
there,
>done that, whinny little kid who will insult, harrass, make assumption,
call
>names, and attack you if you if you dont aggree to his line of thinking.
He
>has also been caught here lieing, fabricating information, and
mislabeling
>facts.

How about some specifics, Chris...'ol buddy, 'ol pal?  You keep making
these libelous statements on here against me; I have given you several
opportunities to cite your sources and produce the neccessary proof to
back up your claims, but you never do.  Instead, you choose to ignore the
issue and persist with your name-calling and personal insults.  Why is
that?

-Drew in Charlotte-
 KF4DDM



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The real definition of no Code Is CB PLuser at least thats what the FCC
should call you guys


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[e-mail] (Stephan Rashkin) wrote:
>
>[e-mail] (Drew Durigan) wrote:
>
>>>How about some specifics, Chris...'ol buddy, 'ol pal?  You keep making

>>these libelous statements on here against me; I have given you several

>>opportunities to cite your sources and produce the neccessary proof to

>>back up your claims, but you never do.  Instead, you choose to ignore
the
>>issue and persist with your name-calling and personal insults.  Why is

>>that?
>
>>-Drew in Charlotte-
>> KF4DDM
>
>uuuhhh? Cause you're a jerk?
>
>Steve, WA2NHZ


Lack of substantive argument = resorting to name-calling and personal
insults.  You have proven my point better than I could have ever hoped to.


I rest my case.

-Drew in Charlotte-
 KF4DDM



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In article <4bk3he$[e-mail]>,
        Drew Durigan <[e-mail]> wrote:

>Again, if you could only learn how to read a callsign server, you would
>know the answer to your question.

Callsign servers are relatively useless to find out how long a person
has been licensed. None of them show an "original" license date, they
only show current license issued date and expiration date. For instance,
an extra licensed 15 years ago will only show up as an "extra" with a
current and expiration date, and maybe a "previous call" and "previous"
class entry that shows they once held a lower-class call, but certainly
nothing about original license date.

Then again, if you had a clue, you'd know that.

MD
--
--
-- "Who needs looks when you've got taste?"
--


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In article <4bk2n6$[e-mail]>,
        Drew Durigan <[e-mail]> wrote:

>PS...If you want to see first-hand how effective of a filter Morse Code
>is "to keep (fools) off of HF", try 75-meters on any given night.

All this shows is that we need to go back to the "minimum 1 minute
solid copy" rule, and get away from these multiple-guess giveaway
code examinations.

MD
--
--
-- "Who needs looks when you've got taste?"
--


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From: [e-mail] (Bill Sohl  Budd Lake)
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[e-mail] wrote:
: In <4bivd2$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Drew Durigan
) writes:
: >>These kids say that you are clueless.
: >
: >I would suggest that if these kids were really the best and the brightest,
: > they would be spending their time learning about computers, digital
: >signal processing and transmission, etc.  In other words, useful
: >knowledge that will prepare them for life and profitable careers in the
: >21st century...instead of wasting their time on an 19th century
: >technology like Morse Code.  Are you teaching them how to communicate via
: >smoke signals, too?

First, my background...I've been a ham 30+ years, also a Scoutmaster for
2 years plus continued responsibilities during the entire time my son went
through scouting from Cub Scouts to Eagle.  I'm also an advocate of
reducing the CW requirements.

: Drew, believe it or not, there actually is a real-world place for all of tho
se
: modes of communication.  I'm a leader in a Boy Scout troop, and we are
: teaching a number of "antiquated technologies" to the boys, including both
: morse and semaphore (not smoke signals though, not yet) as part of their
: communications requirements.  And, believe it or not, it was NOT my idea
: to do that...it came from some non-ham scout leaders, a couple of whom
: make their livings programming computers!  Your modern technology will
: not do you a lot of good when you're in the wilderness somewhere, out
: of range of a cell-phone tower or with a dead battery because you fell out
: of your canoe into the water and it got wet.  Whether to require people to
: learn older methods as requirements for a license (or Scout rank advance-
: ment) is a separate issue, that really isn't being addressed in this thread
: anymore, but I don't think you should run people down because they choose
: to spend some of their time learning modes you think are obsolete.

Absoluely true AND the essence of what many of us have been stating.  The
NEED to know morse code has diminished almost totally in value except for
very rare instances.  Based on such infrequent and highly improbable
occurances today, there is simply no reason to FORCE everyone that wants
to get on HF to learn CW at speeds of 13 wpm.  The 5wpm or lower
international treaty requirements are all that needs to be addressed.

I am going to put together a set of Frequently Asked Questions/Issues
on this entire CW debate, but one thing I need for starters is an
identification of the last times CW played an active role in a true
emergency...and the use of the CW involved amateurs in the USA.  To
my knowledge it has been several years at least, but I'm open to
being corrected on that.

Merry Christmas

--
Cheers, ---------------------------------------------------------------
Bill Sohl  K2UNK     (Budd lake, New Jersey)      ([e-mail])
VTR Assistant Magazine Editor, Past VTR President (1983-1990)
ARRL Local Government Liason, Mount Olive Township
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From: [e-mail] (Drew Durigan)
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Subject: Re: no-code=no-brain
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>Alan, forget abt Drew.  I would stack anyone of my scouts against him
in
>the woods in the middle of winter for 3 days...and see who comes out..
>
>i'll even spot drew all his digital equipment (fat lot that will do in
the
>middle of no where)
>
>guarantee drew will be cq'ing his little heart out, while the scout is
>staying warm and comfortable by a fire he built

Not only that, the fire will also allow him to communicate by way of
smoke signals (which I'm sure you taught him along with Morse code, right?
)

-Drew in Charlotte-
 KF4DDM



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In <4bl0vt$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Drew Durigan)
writes:
>[e-mail] (KF2TI) wrote:
>
>>>Drew in Charlotte-
>>> KF4DDM
>>>
>>>
>>
>>licensed for 4 months
>>already DXCC with 5 watts on 10 meters using a coat hanger for a
>cubical
>>quad
>
>Your words, not mine.  I wish I could take credit for an achievement like
>this..but unfortunately, even I'm not THAT good! <g>
>
>-Drew in Charlotte-
> KF4DDM
>
>
It IS possible to do this in one weekend during the CQWW contest, but
not at sunspot minimum!  Maybe in 4 or 5 years...
73 - Alan NS0B


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In <4bmh9b$[e-mail]>,
   Michael P. Deignan <[e-mail] (Michael P. Deignan)>
wrote:
|In article <4bk2n6$[e-mail]>,
|       Drew Durigan <[e-mail]> wrote:
|>PS...If you want to see first-hand how effective of a filter Morse Code
|>is "to keep (fools) off of HF", try 75-meters on any given night.
|
|All this shows is that we need to go back to the "minimum 1 minute
|solid copy" rule, and get away from these multiple-guess giveaway
|code examinations.

You keep singing the same tune.  How many of the OFs on 75, especially the
ones with the gall bladders and piles, do you think didn't get their tickets
when the 1-minute rule was in effect?  Or is all the trouble there from hams
who got licensed in the last 10 or 15 years?
--
Nets: [e-mail]  |  "There were sweetheart roses on Yancey Wilmerding's
  or [e-mail]|  bureau that morning.  Wide-eyed and distraught, she
POTS: [phone]  |  stood with all her faculties rooted to the floor."
ARS:  KD1ON          |                                  -- S. J. Perelman


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[e-mail] (Drew Durigan) wrote:

>[e-mail] (Stephan Rashkin) wrote:
>>
>>[e-mail] (Drew Durigan) wrote:
>>
>>>>How about some specifics, Chris...'ol buddy, 'ol pal?  You keep making

>>>these libelous statements on here against me; I have given you several

>>>opportunities to cite your sources and produce the neccessary proof to

>>>back up your claims, but you never do.  Instead, you choose to ignore
>the
>>>issue and persist with your name-calling and personal insults.  Why is

>>>that?
>>
>>>-Drew in Charlotte-
>>> KF4DDM
>>
>>uuuhhh? Cause you're a jerk?
>>
>>Steve, WA2NHZ


>Lack of substantive argument = resorting to name-calling and personal
>insults.  You have proven my point better than I could have ever hoped to.


>I rest my case.

>-Drew in Charlotte-
> KF4DDM

You have no case...in fact it seems that most of the comments
coming in about you here on this group pretty much sum you
up..You're just the lowest thing on the "food chain"...again
you are what perpetuates the atrophy of everything that has
value...you won't even have your license now if it wasn't for
multiple guess questions..again I will always consider you
a loser, a liar, and one of the most clueless asses on the net.

Seasons Greetings

Steve, WA2NHZ




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From: [e-mail] (Bill Sohl  Budd Lake)
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Subject: Re: no-code=no-brain
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Stephan Rashkin ([e-mail]) wrote:
: [e-mail] (Bill Sohl  Budd Lake) wrote:

: >                        ^^^^^^^^^
: >I have been licensed since the mid-50s and essays were absolutely
: >not involved at that point.  My dad got his license in the 40s and
: >does not recall any essay tests being part of his general exam.

: And by essays, I mean it was not a multiple guess question..The
: question asked to describe the biasing techniques for the different
: classes of amplifiers..it had to be briefly answered in a few
: sentences...Also schematics had to be drawn and missing components
: had to be drawn in...I remember it very well, and so does my friend
: WA2KBZ and a number of my other long time friends..

Since my K2UNK precedes the WA call, and I passed the general theory for
my tech license around the late 50s, I'll call you again on this one.  The
general theory test I took was all multiple choice EXCEPT for about
4 or 5 questions which were...draw a Colpitts osillator type of
schematic drawing.  Otherwise, no essay or fill in the blank.

: Also on another front..there is nothing wrong with establishing
: another class with 5wpm speed, however Drew wants to abolish cw on
: the exams entirely...

So do lot's of others, and it wouldn't bother me either, BUT I do know
it will not happen until the international treaty is changed.  For now, just
eliminate testing above 5wpm unless it is a qualifyier for an exclusive
high speed CW sub-band.

--
Cheers, ---------------------------------------------------------------
Bill Sohl  K2UNK     (Budd lake, New Jersey)      ([e-mail])
VTR Assistant Magazine Editor, Past VTR President (1983-1990)
ARRL Local Government Liason, Mount Olive Township
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Stephan Rashkin ([e-mail]) wrote:
: Yeah let's compare..
: I have been in electronics for most of my life..I started building
: transmitters and receivers over 37 years ago..I have worked in
: the 2-way radio field and the broadcast field (engineering and
: repair) I worked in military ECM, PMEL, as well as being
: in a flight crew..I have had a 2nd Class Radiotelegraph as
: well as a 1st Class Radiotelephone class license with radar
: endorsement I have gone from novice and then through the ranks
: to extra taking exams in person at the FCC with real exams when you
: still had to explain in essay form and draw schematics...I am now a
                        ^^^^^^^^^
I have been licensed since the mid-50s and essays were absolutely
not involved at that point.  My dad got his license in the 40s and
does not recall any essay tests being part of his general exam.

: (since 1981) VLSI electronic engineer designing high density
: propriatory Ic's and circuit integration for biomedical robotic
: platforms...I still homebrew, and love playing with boatanchors..I
: have a private pilots license and do aviation radio repair part time
: at a local depot..(also did some at old Dow AFB when in A&E squadron).

Frankly, all this is just a waste.  There are experts like yoiu and I on
both sides of the debate.  Our technical credentials are not the
reason anyone should side with you or folks like myself that are in
favor of changing the CW requirements to bring them in line with
contemporary radio operations.

: ...oh
yes by the way I spent 3 years just in South
East : Asia while in the USAF.( Vietnam Era) .and not as a "road guard"
: I tried never to miss more that a  day on Hf ham radio, even
: if it was from the cockpit of a B52..

More so what, does it help the arguments if I note my 4 years of
Naval communications/radar background (E-5), also with Vietnam War
Zone experience?

Address the issues!  End the personal crap!  Debate the NEED for
continued testing above 5wpm as a pre-requisite for the majority
of HF access.

As before, I have no problem establishing a fast-CW exclusive set of HF
sub-bands to make all the pro-code people happy.  Funny it isn't
taken up as an opportunity to have their own CW EXCLUSIVE (and I mean
exclusive, no data, no RTTY, etc.) high speed CW playground...or is
keeping everyone else out of the rest of HF their primary goal?
Just thought I'd ask.
--
Cheers, ---------------------------------------------------------------
Bill Sohl  K2UNK     (Budd lake, New Jersey)      ([e-mail])
ARRL Local Government Liason, Mount Olive Township
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Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: no-code=no-brain
Date: 26 Dec 1995 11:09:02 -0700
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In <4arqhr$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Carl Steckler) wr
ites:

>><<Quit stereotyping no-code techs!  WE ARE HAMS BY DEFINITION AND BY
>>LAW!>>
>>
>>You may be licensed to use the spectrum, but you sure ain't a ham.
>>
>>Don't delude yourself. General Class and above to be a "real ham".
>>
>>-mike
>>
>>wa4d-
>>
>>--
>>Mike Whatley
>
>Some elmer you would make. Great encouragement. I sure am glad that the hams
>in my area don't live in the stone age, but I guess that we aren't "real
>hams" by your standards. Have a nice day, 73 (oops do I have to be a "real
>ham" to say that?).
>--
>Carl (ex-jarhead) Semper Fi
>KB2SGX

I probably know more about electronics than most of these memorizing the
question pool generals and above do. Myself I am a no-code tech and I have
helped more General Class and Tech + hams with setting up packet and building
antennas. Just because someone is a higher class than you does not mean that
you are a real ham just like them. I like my vhf and above right now and when
I decide to upgrade I will. It is people like those snotty generals and up tha
t
makes me want to not upgrade just so they will stay away from me. I find that
most of the nicer people hang out on 2m and 70cm. Besides you can't do high
speed packet radio on hf so why bother. :)

73 de KC7GNM
Greg



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From: [e-mail] (Stephan Rashkin)
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[e-mail] (Bill Sohl  Budd Lake) wrote:

>.

>Since my K2UNK precedes the WA call, and I passed the general theory for
>my tech license around the late 50s, I'll call you again on this one.  The
>general theory test I took was all multiple choice EXCEPT for about
>4 or 5 questions which were...draw a Colpitts osillator type of
>schematic drawing.  Otherwise, no essay or fill in the blank.

Didn't you take the tech test by mail?..After 1954 the tech test was
taken by mail...There were 8 variations of tests at that time..It
wasn't till after 1976 that they stopped the tech mail tests....the in
house exam I had did have the fill in as you call it..specifically
about biasing of amplifiers..and their classes.. The tech test was
supposably the same as the general test, but I only remember seeing
multiple choice and the oscillator drawings/ identification on all the
tech tests I administered..there were variations even among the
general tests..
And of course they tested your sending of cw at the FCC then too!
The little old man with the cigar was intimidating to a young kid :O)
We had to go across the street from the FCC and get the paperwork
notarized for 25 cents too..

Steve, WA2NHZ





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[e-mail] (Stephan Rashkin) wrote:

>[e-mail] (Bill Sohl  Budd Lake) wrote:

>>.

>>Since my K2UNK precedes the WA call, and I passed the general theory for
>>my tech license around the late 50s, I'll call you again on this one.  The
>>general theory test I took was all multiple choice EXCEPT for about
>>4 or 5 questions which were...draw a Colpitts osillator type of
>>schematic drawing.  Otherwise, no essay or fill in the blank.

>Didn't you take the tech test by mail?..After 1954 the tech test was
>taken by mail...There were 8 variations of tests at that time..It
>wasn't till after 1976 that they stopped the tech mail tests....the in
>house exam I had did have the fill in as you call it..specifically
>about biasing of amplifiers..and their classes.. The tech test was
>supposably the same as the general test, but I only remember seeing
>multiple choice and the oscillator drawings/ identification on all the
>tech tests I administered..there were variations even among the
>general tests..
>And of course they tested your sending of cw at the FCC then too!
>The little old man with the cigar was intimidating to a young kid :O)
>We had to go across the street from the FCC and get the paperwork
>notarized for 25 cents too..

>Steve, WA2NHZ


I just dug up the some of the old de-classified Tech exam version and
another variant Tech/Conditional exam...you did not have to draw any
schematics on your tech tests if you had those versions...you had to
just identify the circuit by multiple choice..the tests were marked
specifically depending on the dates and versions 1. Technician
2. Technician/Conditional....differentiated from General with some
differences in question types including the drawing of schematics
and as I mentioned some fill ins..Possibly versions used since they
were in the hands of FCC examiner..
By the way how many questions do you remember being on your test?

Steve, WA2NHZ




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[e-mail] (Stephan Rashkin) wrote:
>[e-mail] (Drew Durigan) wrote:
>
>>>I now feel that it's great that Morse Code can be a filter
>>>to keep a fool like you off of HF.
>
>>I think you better learn how to access a callsign server.  I passed my
>>code; I have access to HF.  A common (mis) assumption by you no-coder
>>types who (mistakenly) believe that you own the bands is that all those
>>who are opposed to mandatory CW requirements are no-code techs who "are
>>just too lazy to learn the code."  Wrong
>
>>>See you later loser...
>
>>Much later, I hope.  And only when you get your facts straight.
>
>>-Drew in Charlotte-
>> KF4DDM
>
>
>
>
>You are truly an ass!


The one and only type of response to this, at his level of maturity is:

TAKES ONE TO KNOW ONE!  NEENER, NEENER, NEENER!  PHHHTTTTTPPPPPTTTT!



>Have a Merry Christmas
>
>Steve, WA2NHZ
>.
>ps  I have been using call servers for several years....my own CD's
>plus packet bbs servers...So tell me about it "pupa boy".  I'll match
>my digital knowledge and experience against you any second of the
>day...
>
>
>
>



Lighten up,

Jim

--
"It's a dog-eat-dog world and I'm wearing Milk Bone underwear", Norm Peterson.
The hills are alive, and they're coming to get YOU!!!                   KF6AGJ
Green Acres *IS* the place to be!                            [e-mail]



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[e-mail] (Stephan Rashkin) wrote:
>[e-mail] (Bill Sohl  Budd Lake) wrote:
>
>
>>I have been licensed since the mid-50s and essays were absolutely
>>not involved at that point.  My dad got his license in the 40s and
>>does not recall any essay tests being part of his general exam.
>
>I also might add that the tests in the 40's were different..I believe
>the regulations were revised in 1951changing class A, B, etc to the
>ones we are basically familiar with today..so actually did your dad
>have a General or class A, B, C and was his administered by mail
>or in person..The tests were revised many times during that period..
>I actually have copies of old de-classified exams from those periods
>through the 60's.. Also in what year and where did you take your
>General test?  Mine was  in 1960..and in NYC at the FCC..Did you take
>your General in the 60's, 70's or in the 80's?  There was also a
>difference between the do at home Conditionals and Technician
>licenses--I administered lots of them..
>
>73's
>
>Steve, WA2NHZ
>
>
>


Just going by memory, but I seem to recall back in the 70's that the form of
the test; multiple choice (with their own answers), essay, verbal etc. were th
e
decision of the person responsible for administering the test.  But since I
don't have a 1973 or there abouts rulebook, I can't check on it.

So both Steve and Bill may be correct in recalling different test methods.


Jim


--
"It's a dog-eat-dog world and I'm wearing Milk Bone underwear", Norm Peterson.
The hills are alive, and they're coming to get YOU!!!                   KF6AGJ
Green Acres *IS* the place to be!                            [e-mail]



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From: [e-mail] (Michael P. Deignan)
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Subject: Re: no-code=no-brain
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In article <4bkjr1$[e-mail]>,
        Stephan Rashkin <[e-mail]> wrote:

>3MONTHS AND HE'S AN EXPERT!!!!

Just think... If he guess right on 7-out-of-10 on the multiple-guess
code exam, he could be an "instant extra".

MD
--
--
-- "Who needs looks when you've got taste?"
--


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[e-mail] (Jay Ward) wrote:

>Mike Whatley ([e-mail]) wrote:
>: Mark--
>:
>: <<Quit stereotyping no-code techs!  WE ARE HAMS BY DEFINITION AND BY
>: LAW!>>
>:
>: You may be licensed to use the spectrum, but you sure ain't a ham.
>:
>: Don't delude yourself. General Class and above to be a "real ham".
>:
>: -mike
>:
>: wa4d-

Some people never change...you must be the brother of a certain N4
here in Richmond.

and for the record, I was a novice first, then I jumped onto 2m!

Have a nice day!

Jason, KD4ACG





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From: [e-mail] (Clarence Erickson)
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Subject: NuMorse code trainer
Date: 26 Dec 1995 23:38:25 GMT
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I hope someone can help me locate the shareware code trainer called NuMorse.
I read an article on it in December CQ magazine and would like to find it
somewhere on the net. If anyone could point me to a ftp site I would
appreciate it.
                   Thanks in advance


Cub Erickson   WB0NCP
[e-mail] or [e-mail]


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On 26 Dec 1995 23:38:25 GMT Clarence Erickson wrote:
: I hope someone can help me locate the shareware code trainer called NuMorse.

numorse.zip is available by ftp from:

grivel.une.edu.au  in directory:  /pub/ham-radio/funet/ham/morse


-Scott KI6KW


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From: "Joseph P. Feehan" <[e-mail]>
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Subject: QSL Cards
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Can anyone tell me how to print BLANK QSL's on a Laser Printer?

I have a box of continuous-form 3X5" cards intended to be
tractor-fed on dot-matrix printers.  I have worked up some nifty
QSL designs, but am too cheap to have them printed.  I'd like to
use the continuous-form cards if possible.  VP2VBL.



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From: [e-mail] (Richard MacDonald)
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Subject: Re: QSL Cards
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On 23 Dec 1995 20:09:07 GMT, "Joseph P. Feehan" <[e-mail]> wrote:

>Can anyone tell me how to print BLANK QSL's on a Laser Printer?
>
>I have a box of continuous-form 3X5" cards intended to be
>tractor-fed on dot-matrix printers.  I have worked up some nifty
>QSL designs, but am too cheap to have them printed.  I'd like to
>use the continuous-form cards if possible.  VP2VBL.
>
Options:

1. Get a laser printer that handles continuous forms. I think there was one a
few years ago but that may be faulty memory.

2. Cut the cards apart into the minimum size that your printer will handle and
write software that prints that many cards per sheet. Most printers will  hand
le
6 by 5 inch forms so you should only have to do 2 at a time. A desktop
publishing program will make doing the actual layout easier than a word
processor.

Goo luck,

Richard S. (Dick) MacDonald - AD0J

"If all economists were laid end to end,
   they would not reach a conclusion."
  --- George Bernard Shaw



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From: [e-mail] (John Lovett)
Newsgroups: aus.radio.amateur.misc,hh.hamradio,in.ham-radio,rec.antiques.radio+phono,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.shortwave,uk.radio.amateur
Subject: QST Cover Pictures from 1920's
Date: Wed, 27 Dec 1995 01:34:26 GMT
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I scanned in a few (in color) in case anyone is interested. They are
on my web site.



- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
http://www.cybercom.net/~jfl



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From: Irene Tosetti <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Racal 6790/gm filters
Date: Sun, 24 Dec 1995 17:02:16 +0100
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I am looking for second-hand/surplus symmetrical band pass filters for
my Racal receiver RA 6790/GM. Please let me know if you have
suggestions about where I could find them.

BANDWIDTHS:
0,3; 1; 3.2 khz or similar.


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From: [e-mail] (gloria medcalf)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.equipment
Subject: Radio-TNC Cable Wiring Diagrams at Web Site
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Radio to TNC wiring diagrams and other information about digital
modes can be found at the following site:

Wiring Index URL: http://www.idir.net/~medcalf/ztx/wire

The site also contains the following articles:

Site URL: http://www.idir.net/~medcalf/ztx/

    Desense: Some Possible Solutions

    TOR Modes: Hearing the Difference (includes sound files)

    Getting Information from a Weathernode

73 gloria ka5ztx   [e-mail]


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From: [e-mail] (John Byrnes)
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Subject: Repeater Freqs (Calgary)?
Date: 26 Dec 1995 17:44:06 GMT
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I know this is last minute, but I was hoping someone could tell me the
frequencies of some (if any!) repeaters in Calgary and further West.

I'll be there tomorrow and will be travelling West from Calgary through
Banff, Canmore (sp?), Rogers Pass, Golden, Revelstoke, etc.  Are there
some repeaters along that route I can use?

Please e-mail me, since a reply to this newsgroup will probably reach
me too late (I fly today at 6:00pm).

Thanks, and 73s,

John
KB0UNC portable VE6  (should be correct! :-) )




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From: [e-mail] (Richard F. DiDonna)
Subject: Re: ReRe: Contesting
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Distribution: world

Jerry Gardner ([e-mail]) wrote:
: gregory brown ([e-mail]) wrote:
: : Jerry Gardner ([e-mail]) wrote:

: : : The closest parallel I can think of to ham contesting is a bunch of
: : : guys sitting on couches eating chips and peanuts and swilling beer while
: : : watching an entire weekend's worth of football on TV.

: Not flame bait at all. Just my experience with the local contesters.
: They all look like poster boys for the American Heart Association
: with their enormous beer guts, quadruple chins, and fat butts.

I'd say this is more of a blanket statement of hams in general or of
packet types.  I have seen some extremely large individuals; many
of whom appear to have at least three or four HTs around their
belts.  Since most contesters devote their radio time to HF operation,
the afore mentioned examples of flab could only be the VHF types.

Not to say that there aren't overweight contest ops, but most of the
300 contest ops that I know are quite thin; the type who have to climb
a 125/200 foot tower every time the wind knocks one of their phased
stacks out of phase.

Rich KI6ZH



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From: [e-mail] (Ramon Tristani)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Speeding up in CW
Date: Tue, 26 Dec 1995 19:45:47 GMT
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Hello. It has been a long time since I dont practice CW and the 13 WPM
speed I had has for sure been downgraded to maybe 5 or 7 WPM. I have
seen some adds about computer programs and audio tapes that repudetly
help in improving speed. If anybody out there knows about a good,
proven one, could you please let me know abut it?

Ramon
KP4GE




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From: [e-mail] (Gary V. Deutschmann, Sr.)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Speeding up in CW
Date: Wed, 27 Dec 1995 01:48:17 GMT
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[e-mail] (Ramon Tristani) wrote:

>Hello. It has been a long time since I dont practice CW and the 13 WPM
>speed I had has for sure been downgraded to maybe 5 or 7 WPM. I have
>seen some adds about computer programs and audio tapes that repudetly
>help in improving speed. If anybody out there knows about a good,
>proven one, could you please let me know abut it?

>Ramon
>KP4GE


Save your money Ramon, if you have a cassette player, make your own.

Use normal usage words like Age, QTH, SK, AR, HR, HPE, CU, Name, Is,
73, BK, etc. and send them once with a pause then three times in
succession.  After you master those do the same thing only forming
sentences of first two words then three.

Start at about 15 WPM on side one of tape one, 20 on side two, 30 on
tape two and 35 on tape three.

You'll be amazed at how easy code is once you get up into the higher
speeds where you hear words instead of letters.  I'm sure you
recognize CQ without ever thinking about the two individual letters.

Practice using only the word "Call" until you get up to 35 wpm and
you'll see what I mean.  If your shooting for your 20 WPM test,
listening to code at 30 to 35 WPM, whether you can copy it or not,
makes the 20 WPM seem like a novice test.

Gary





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Ramon Tristani ([e-mail]) wrote:
: Hello. It has been a long time since I dont practice CW and the 13 WPM
: speed I had has for sure been downgraded to maybe 5 or 7 WPM. I have
: seen some adds about computer programs and audio tapes that repudetly
: help in improving speed. If anybody out there knows about a good,
: proven one, could you please let me know abut it?

   Listen a lot.  Listen to code that is somewhat faster than you can
copy easily.  Don't always try to copy, but just relax some of the time
and try to go straight from the sound of the character to the letter
that is signified by that sound.  Do some sending to yourself.
   Good luck, 73 and Happy New Year
Gerry K8EF




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From: Burt Fisher <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Still Posting HI HI HI HI HI HI HI: Anyone still using RTTY?
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[e-mail] (Daniel Senie) wrote:
> Try the first full weekend in January and you'll
>hear a LOT of RTTY, maybe even on 10 meters, from the ARRL RTTY Roundup
>contest.

What excitement.
I will pee in my pants if I participate.

#================#=====================================================#
|  Burt Fisher   |  Teacher of video, broadcasting and electronics     |
| Amateur call   |         South Dennis, Ma. (Cape Cod)                |
|    K1OIK       |  The less you say, the more people will remember    |
#================#=====================================================#
|                            [e-mail]                          |
#======================================================================#

I never make the mistake of arguing with people for whose opinions I have no
respect.
Edward Gibbon




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From: [e-mail] (Jim Smith)
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In article <4bgtgp$[e-mail]>,
   Burt Fisher <[e-mail]> wrote:
>
>[e-mail] (Daniel Senie) wrote:
>> Try the first full weekend in January and you'll
>>hear a LOT of RTTY, maybe even on 10 meters, from the ARRL RTTY Roundup
>>contest.
>
>What excitement.
>I will pee in my pants if I participate.
>
>#================#=====================================================#
>|  Burt Fisher   |  Teacher of video, broadcasting and electronics     |
>| Amateur call   |         South Dennis, Ma. (Cape Cod)                |
>|    K1OIK       |  The less you say, the more people will remember    |
>#================#=====================================================#
[FlameThrowers UP]
.. Oh, h---, it would just be a bad waste of good napalm...
[FlameThrowers DOWN]


From Unknown Wed Dec 27 18:40:29 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Dave Bushong)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Still Posting HI HI HI HI HI HI HI: Anyone still using RTTY?
Date: 24 Dec 1995 22:39:56 GMT
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In article <4bgtgp$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] says...
>
>
>[e-mail] (Daniel Senie) wrote:
>> Try the first full weekend in January and you'll
>>hear a LOT of RTTY, maybe even on 10 meters, from the ARRL RTTY Roundup
>>contest.
>
>What excitement.
>I will pee in my pants if I participate.

Burt, only a loser would slam someone else's interest in this great hobby.
You should be ashamed for discouraging someone, *anyone*, from participating
in *any* aspect of this hobby.  The very thing that makes this hobby great is
that people like you and I, no matter how twisted you are, can both enjoy it.

Dave KZ1O

>I never make the mistake of arguing with people for whose opinions I have no
>respect.
>Edward Gibbon

Burt - you've never heard from Edward Gibbon, have you?

--
Dave Bushong                      [e-mail]
MRS Technologies, Inc.



From Unknown Wed Dec 27 18:40:31 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Richard Delaney)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Stupid Ramsey Tricks
Date: 23 Dec 1995 05:23:36 GMT
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: > >They finally quit using that mike at this gig.  Mission accomplished!
: > >Now to fry their speakers somehow!
Go for it.

: > Frankly, Gary, I sympathize with the tough situation that you are in.
: > However, intentional and malicious interference is not the answer.
: > Just because this nightclub is breaking the law that is no excuse for
: > you to do the same.

Really? Maybe you should live in his house for a week.

: > I believe that your intentional QRM is not only unethical, but also
: > illegal.  You might want to consider that before posting on the
: > internet next time.

Like everything else here is legal.

: I am with Gary .... I dont believe the intentional QRM restrictions
: protect illeagal operators. The FCC has been emasculated and cant
: follow up on all the minor complaints they get so his solution is
: IMHO reasonable!

I really doubt that the FCC is going to do anything about it if he did
complain, and frankly, the nightclub wouldn't care if HE complained.
Sometimes and eye for an eye is the only way to go in RFI cases.


Matt



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From: [e-mail] (Michael A. Sterba)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Tektronix Spectr pulse
Date: 26 Dec 1995 13:46:19 GMT
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Hello All,
I have a Tektronix Spectr Pulse Spectrum Analyzer plug in for my 549 scope. I
was
wondering if anyone had a copy of the book that goes with this unit so I could

calibrate it.
Thanks ahead of time..........
--
                "Handcrafted From The Finest ASCII"
73's de KG7HQ



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From: Michelle Nicolls <[e-mail]>
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Subject: TELEMETRY: need info
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Does anyone have any information on building telemetry transmitters?
216 mhz preferably but 2m or 70cm ok. Is telemetry tx on amateur band legal
(licensed of course)? Will a scanner with a attenuator work as a receiver?
 Any info welcome!
                          tnx, Troy   KE6QMX


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From: [e-mail] (Don Ritchie K8ZGW)
Subject: Re: TELEMETRY: need info
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As quoted from <4bdlbn$[e-mail]> by Michelle Nicolls <mnicolls@s
nowcrest.net>:

+---------------
| Does anyone have any information on building telemetry transmitters?
| 216 mhz preferably but 2m or 70cm ok. Is telemetry tx on amateur band legal
| (licensed of course)? Will a scanner with a attenuator work as a receiver?
|  Any info welcome!
|                           tnx, Troy   KE6QMX

Troy, What are you trying to do.... if the use is amateur ( or personal, not
for profit ) it should be legal in the ham bands. The best shot for cheap
telemetry transmitters is TEKK; they sell them on the ham band and on the
business bands. I think they run around $150.
If I can be of farther help e-mail direct, as I don't follow this news group
very often.

--

Don Ritchie K8ZGW                       Internet: [e-mail]

                 Cleveland Hamnet BBS  [phone]


From Unknown Wed Dec 27 18:40:34 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Christian Buenger)
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>Does anybody have a list of ham related mailing lists. I recently found a
>DX-reflector but that was all. Do you have any tips or lists, which you
>could mail me?

Thanks to everybody who mailed me some information! If wanted, I can
forward the received mails, into the newsgroup!

So long
Christian

InterNet: [e-mail]
          [e-mail]

## CrossPoint v3.1 ##


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From: Stephan M. Anderman <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: The Origin of "HAM"  (complete article)
Date: Fri, 22 DEC 95 23:31:28 -0500
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One problem...
     There is NOTHING in the Congressional Record to support this "story".  Ha
s
anyone else done any research into this?  Apparently, the original writer neve
r
did, and this is another popular fable that has no basis in fact.
-
Stephan Anderman, WA3RKB
Bulletin Manager/Public Information Coordinator
ARRL Eastern New York Section/Hudson Division
Stillwater, NY
[e-mail]


From Unknown Wed Dec 27 18:40:36 1995
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From: [e-mail] (james a maxwell)
Subject: Re: The Origin of "HAM"  (complete article)
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Craig Stimson ([e-mail]) wrote:

(Text omitted, but it contains the Hyman/Almy/Murray story about the
origin of the word ham.)

The story is FALSE.  John Huntoon, W1RW, once General Manager of the
ARRL, researched this story after in first appeared back in 1947.  Among
the problems with the story, Senator Walsh was never a member of the
committee hearing the wireless bill, and in fact he wasn't even a
senator until 1922.  Huntoon obtained transcripts of the Congressional
Record covering the period in question, and the episode is not there.
Huntoon contacted the president of the Harvard Radio Club, and the
president stated that he had never heard of the incident or of the
three individuals who were purportedly members of the club in the
early days.

This story keeps coming up.  Huntoon, for many years, kept trying to
push it back, but it has a life of its own.

73.  Jim, W6CF

--

______________________________________________________________________________
_
james a maxwell                                             [e-mail]
m



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From: [e-mail] (Jeffrey D. Angus)
Subject: Re: The Origin of "HAM" (complete article)
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
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Craig Stimson ([e-mail]) wrote:

(Text omitted, but it contains the Hyman/Almy/Murray story about the
origin of the word ham.)

Obviously you haven't heard the REAL origination of the word HAM.

It is from: craig sHergold and his brAin tuMor.

73 es Best wishes for the new year from Jeff

--
 Amateur: WA6FWI@WA6FWI.#SOCA.CA.USA.NA  |  "It is difficult to imagine our
Internet: [e-mail]       |  universe run by a single omni-
 US Mail: PO Box 4425 Carson, CA 90749   |  potent god. I see it more as a
   Phone: [phone]               |  badly run corporation."



From Unknown Wed Dec 27 18:40:38 1995
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From: [e-mail] (PTracy)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: The sex practices of hams.
Date: 24 Dec 1995 23:05:47 -0500
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In article <4bjg2u$[e-mail]>, Burt Fisher <[e-mail]>
writes:

>Subject:       The sex practices of hams.
>From:  Burt Fisher <[e-mail]>
>Date:  24 Dec 1995 12:12:14 GMT
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

I'll bet you a buck Burt that only 1 out of 100 will get it.  The joke
that is.


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From: [e-mail] (Watts)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: The sex practices of hams.
Date: 27 Dec 1995 07:41:31 -0700
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PTracy ([e-mail]) wrote:
: In article <4bjg2u$[e-mail]>, Burt Fisher <[e-mail]>
: writes:

: >Subject:     The sex practices of hams.
: >From:        Burt Fisher <[e-mail]>
: >Date:        24 Dec 1995 12:12:14 GMT
: >
etc...

: I'll bet you a buck Burt that only 1 out of 100 will get it.  The joke
: that is.

I don't know about the rest of ya, but I quit practicing years ago when I
started doing the real thing!

Gee, Burt, not getting enough attention over the holidays?

Galen, KF0YJ


From Unknown Wed Dec 27 18:40:40 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Mark D. Fergus)
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Subject: Re: The true Santa.
Date: Mon, 25 Dec 1995 04:39:08 GMT
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In article <4b102n$[e-mail]> Burt Fisher <[e-mail]> writes
:

>A Politically Correct Merry

>'Twas the night before christmas and santa's a wreck...

>So here is that gift, it's price beyond worth...
>"May you and your loved ones enjoy peace on earth."

Burt,

I actually enjoyed your message.   Great satire... yet an important moral (the

last line)

Merry Christmas to you and your family and to all whom this article reaches :-
)

Mark D. Fergus N8VJF




From Unknown Wed Dec 27 18:40:41 1995
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From: Stephan M. Anderman <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: This Week in Amateur Radio #143 (for air through 12/29/95)
Date: Fri, 22 DEC 95 23:33:09 -0500
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Here is a summary of news items covered on edition #143 of
"This Week in Amateur Radio", North America's satellite-delivered
audio bulletin service, for the week ending 29-Dec:
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1.   NTIA Proposes "Wide Area Land Mobile" Use for 2300 MHz Band
2.   ARRL Asks the FCC to Relax Amateur Spread Spectrum Rules
3.   Ham Radio to be Aboard "Tournament of Roses" Parade Float
4.   Amateurs Worldwide to Hear Christmas Greetings from Space
5.   SAFEX II Equipment Sent to Russia for Launch to MIR
6.   "Radio Canada International" to Leave SW Bands in March
7.   "The RAIN Dial-up" from Chicago
8.   Photos of Phase 3D GPS Experiment Equipment on Posted on WWW
9.   "This Week" Expects Move to Telesat Anik E2 Satellite
10.  "Gateway 160 Meter Net Report" with Vern Jackson, WA0RCR
11.  Weekly Propagation Forecast with George Bowen, N2LQS
12.  Upcoming Special Event Stations
13.  "Amateur Radio Newsline" - Edition #958 from Los Angeles
-
"This Week in Amateur Radio" is a weekly amateur voice bulletin
service, produced by Community Video Associates, Inc., a New York
State not-for-profit corporation based in Albany, NY.  The program
is heard each Saturday at 8:00 PM (EST) and carried on VHF/UHF
repeaters throughout North America and on 160 meters at 1860 kHz.
Contact your local amateur radio club or repeater operator if
"This Week in Amateur Radio" is not being heard in your area.
-
Here in the Capital District, "This Week in Amateur Radio" is heard
on our "flagship" repeater, WA2OQE/R in Troy, on 145.33 MHz,
courtesy of the Niagara-Mohawk Amateur Radio Club.  The program is
repeated Mondays at 8:00 PM.
-
Due to the loss of satellite facilities, the service is being
carried exclusively on 160 meters and on the local 145.33 repeater.
The "Tech Talk Network" expects to complete negotiations with a new
satellite uplink carrier by the beginning of January.  "This Week
in Amateur Radio" will return at that time.  Details will be posted
as conditions warrant.  All affiliates are requested to contact the
producers for further information.
-
Production and transmission expenses are underwritten by donations
from repeater operators, amateur radio clubs, and individuals.
Further information is available from George Bowen, N2LQS, at
518/283-3665 (e-mail [e-mail]) or Stephan Anderman, WA3RKB,
at 518/664-6809 (e-mail [e-mail]).  You may also reach
them @ WA2UMX.FN32AW.ENY.NY.USA.NA via amateur packet.


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From: [e-mail] (Jim Weir)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.policy
Subject: Re: VANITY CALLSIGN PGM - UPDATE PLEASE?????
Date: Thu, 21 Dec 1995 10:20:32 GMT
Organization: RST Engineering
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I'd like to publicly thank Hans Brakob (K0HB) for taking the time to
answer a potful of questions I asked.  None of this "go to the store
and look it up" stuff -- Hans actually answered the question directly
and without a lot of wasted words.  You, sir, are a gentleman, a
scholar, and a judge of fine women, whiskey, and horseflesh.

Now, anybody got a good 'net source, site, or URL for the 610-V form?

Jim



Jim Weir VP Engineering  | "We seem to be standing on
RST Engineering          |  the foreskin of technology."
Grass Valley CA 95945    | (Gen. Chuck Yeager)
voice/fax [phone]   |
[e-mail]  AR Adv WB6BHI  CFI A&G/Comml Inst A&G/A&P/C-182A N73CQ



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From: [e-mail]    (Joe Subich)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: VANITY CALLSIGN PGM - UPDATE PLEASE?????
Date: 23 Dec 1995 03:30:42 GMT
Organization: RAMLink Internet Access Service
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In <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Penn McClatchey) writes:
>
>I studied the 2x1 callsigns and noticed the A* calls stop
>at AL.  Does anyone know just what exactly are the acceptable
>two letter prefixes?
>
>Is it like this for the lower 48?
>Wa-z, except h,l,p
>Na-z, except h,l,p
>Ka-z, except h,l,p
>Aa-i,except h
>
>Clearly WP4 is offshore (e.g. Puerto Rico), but is WL4 OK
>for the lower 48?  (WL7 would not be...)
>

WPx, NPx, KPx are reserved for Atlantic (Carribean) off-shore areas.
AL7, KL7, NL7, WL7 are reserved for Alaska.
AHx, KHx, NHx, WHx are reserved for Pacific off-shore areas.
KG4 is reserved for Guantanamo Bay.
KC4 (2x3 format) calls are reserved for the Antarctic.
KC6 (2x2 format) calls *may* still be reserved for the Republic of Belau (I
don't remember if they have been assigned a prefix block from the ITU but
for some time they continued to use the former American calls).

73,

    ... Joe Subich, AD8I
       ([e-mail])


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From: [e-mail] (Greg DeHoogh)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.policy
Subject: Re: VANITY CALLSIGN PGM - UPDATE PLEASE?????
Date: 23 Dec 1995 19:53:58 GMT
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You can get form 610V directly from the FCC's ftp sight, ftp.fcc.gov
Sorry I don't remember the exact directory, but look for something to
do with forms.  It's in JPEG format, so if you don't have a JPEG
viewer, they've got one in the same directory you can also download.

I sure hope this works - I'm a newsgroup newbie and this is my first
time responding to a message.

73 de Greg, AC6IA

In article <4bf00n$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Jim Weir) says:
>
>Now, anybody got a good 'net source, site, or URL for the 610-V form?
>
>Jim
>



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From: [e-mail] (Michael Crestohl)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.policy
Subject: Re: VANITY CALLSIGN PGM - UPDATE PLEASE?????
Date: 24 Dec 1995 01:10:09 -0500
Organization: North Shore Access; a service of Eco Software, Inc. ([e-mail])
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In article <4bf00n$[e-mail]>, Jim Weir <[e-mail]> wrote:
>
>Now, anybody got a good 'net source, site, or URL for the 610-V form?
>
>Jim
>
 Send a SASE to ARRL! Got mine today.

73,

    .-.                                                               .-.
   /   \           .-.                                 .-.           /   \
  /     \         /   \       .-.     _     .-.       /   \         /     \
-/--Michael Crestohl KH6KD/W1/---\---/-\---/---\-----/-----\[e-mail]-\--
          \     /       \   /     `-'   `-'     \   /       \     /
           \   /         `-'                     `-'         \   /
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From: Hans Brakob <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: VANITY CALLSIGN PGM - UPDATE PLEASE?????
Date: 25 Dec 1995 05:42:43 GMT
Organization: MicroBurst
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Message-ID: <4bldkj$gav$[e-mail]>
References: <4bft52$[e-mail]>

>KC4 (2x3 format) calls are reserved for the Antarctic.<

Only a very small block.  There are a LOT of KC4xxx calls
issued and in use in "W4" land.

Happy Holidays, de Hans, K0HB

--
- - - "Any sufficiently advanced technology is
      indistiguishable from magic."  A.C.Clarke
- - - Have you performed any radio magic
      this week?


From Unknown Wed Dec 27 18:40:49 1995
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From: [e-mail]   (Bill Newkirk)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.policy
Subject: Re: VANITY CALLSIGN PGM - UPDATE PLEASE?????
Date: 25 Dec 1995 17:03:40 GMT
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In <4bhmom$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Greg DeHoogh) writes:
>do with forms.  It's in JPEG format, so if you don't have a JPEG
>viewer, they've got one in the same directory you can also download.

they're in PCX format, they just have winjpeg available for those that
otherwise would not be able to handle the files (of course, you need
pkunzip to extract the actual data files...8)  )

that site URL is:

http://www.fcc.gov/Forms/Form610V

Bill Newkirk WB9IVR                  The Space Coast Amateur Technical Group
Melbourne, FL                       duty now for the future of amateur radio
Lombardi's 1st Law of Business:
Companies succeed in spite of their best effort.  If they succeed at all.



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From: [e-mail] (Jim Weir)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.policy
Subject: Re: VANITY CALLSIGN PGM - UPDATE PLEASE?????
Date: Mon, 25 Dec 1995 19:04:34 GMT
Organization: RST Engineering
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>You can get form 610V directly from the FCC's ftp sight, ftp.fcc.gov
>Sorry I don't remember the exact directory, but look for something to
>do with forms.  It's in JPEG format, so if you don't have a JPEG
>viewer, they've got one in the same directory you can also download.

[snips in consideration of bandwidth]

>I sure hope this works - I'm a newsgroup newbie and this is my first
>time responding to a message.

>73 de Greg, AC6IA
Hi, Greg, and welcome to the newsgroup.  Don't believe any of what you
hear and half of what you see on this group and you'll get along just
fine.

I tried that ftp site as well as the www site and they both act the
same on my machine -- I get about 25k of the file to download and then
it hangs and aborts.  I don't know if the problem is on this end or
that end, but I've never been able to successfully download anything
from the fcc sites and the 610V is no exception.

Has anybody successfully downloaded the 610V file from the fcc ftp or
www sites?

Jim



Jim Weir VP Engineering  | "We seem to be standing on
RST Engineering          |  the foreskin of technology."
Grass Valley CA 95945    | (Gen. Chuck Yeager)
voice/fax [phone]   |
[e-mail]  AR Adv WB6BHI  CFI A&G/Comml Inst A&G/A&P/C-182A N73CQ



From Unknown Wed Dec 27 18:40:52 1995
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From: Chris Boone <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: vlf communications unlicensed
Date: 22 Dec 1995 00:12:55 GMT
Organization: ENTERGY/Gulf States Utilities
Lines: 20
Message-ID: <4bct67$33f$[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]>

Lots of operators in the Lowfer band (160-190 Khz)..
Restrictions still apply:

50 ft MAX antenna PLUS feedline length (both together not
seperate)
1watt MAX power
ANY mode as long as it fits in the 30Khz bandwidth
MOst use CW or even SOME SSB now...

There is an active lowfer msg area on FIDONET and I think in the
Compuserve HAMNET area...

Chris
WB5ITT

--
Senior Telecommunications Technician  [e-mail]
ENTERGY/Gulf States Utilities         1:106/4267 FIDOnet
WB5ITT - Advanced Class               BBS- 409-447-4267 (WBBS)
PG-9-5322  FCC Commercial             409-525-2001 PhoneMail 24hr


From Unknown Wed Dec 27 18:40:53 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Az0th)
Subject: Re: WA4D=No Brain, was No Code=No Brain
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Organization: Idoigo, Ltd.
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Date: Fri, 22 Dec 1995 22:17:14 GMT
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Sender: [e-mail]

I heard [e-mail] say:

: Globber <[e-mail]> wrote:
: >Now that the thread has been properly renamed
: >Lets get to the facts.
: >Mikey has had several repeaters in the DC. and
: >Maryland shut off on him.

: Yes, He seems to have "CB" mentality. Clearly a psychological problem
: and heavy duty insecurity.

He also appears in the '94 CQ Almanac, in the section on 'FCC Enforcement
Actions of Interrest to Amateurs', page 9. Seems he was hit with a $7000
fine, subsequently reduced to $2000, for QRMing. For a 45 year old adult,
working in the communications industry (he's a cameraman for a local TV
station, I understand) he certainly sets a fine example of reprehensibly
childish and irresponsible behaviour.

KF4FJH - RF Buchanan


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From: [e-mail] (Stephen C. O'Hara)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Wanted schematic for RCI 2900, 2950
Date: Wed, 27 Dec 1995 02:08:35 GMT
Organization: DELTA Property Development Corp.
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I am looking for schematic for RCI 2900, 2950 10m Radios. Anyone
having these or suggestions where to find them please reply by mail
to: [e-mail]
Thanks, Steve



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From: [e-mail]
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Wanted! Which one to choose?
Date: Wed, 27 Dec 1995 00:39:09 GMT
Organization: Korea Research Environment Open Network (KREONet)
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Hellow?

I've decided to buy a shortwave radio receiver.
There are SONY ICF-SW33, ICF-SW7600G, ICF-SW55...

 I want impartial report or advices about  them.
It will be very great help if you send me one.

Good bye.




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From: "Anthony R. Gold" <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Wanted! Which one to choose?
Date: Tue, 26 Dec 95 11:41:30 GMT
Organization: Microvest Limited, London
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In article <[e-mail]>
           [e-mail] "Anthony R. Gold" writes:

> I am very familiar with the older 7600D and that set was mainly limited by
> too few memories (10). The tuning steps were even larger (5kHz) but the
> set also had a tunable BFO.

Upon re-thinking this point, I now recall better that the control offered
was actually a stepless +- 5kHz fine tuning and not a tunable BFO as I had
said previously.  Also the BFO was a feature that was offered on only the
models for certain countries, as was the choice of the top end of the hf
tuning range, being sometimes 27 MHz and at other times 30 MHz.

Regards,
--
   Tony - G3SKR / AA2PM                  email: [e-mail]
                                                [e-mail]
                                        packet: g3skr@n0ary.#nocal.ca.usa.na


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From: rew5808 <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.swap,rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.shortwave
Subject: Re: Wanted:  heathkit, lafayette, allied catalogs
Date: 27 Dec 1995 05:53:37 GMT
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searching for heathkit, allied electronics, lafayette catalogs from 1955
thru 1965.  if you have any laying around, please let me know.

bobby wb5wur






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From: [e-mail] (Keith Wyatt)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Wayne Green of 73 Magazine on radio show
Date: 25 Dec 95 01:05:10 GMT
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Originator: [e-mail]

For those who missed Wayne Green on the ART Bell a month ago there
will be a repeat of his earlier broadcast with Art Bell. Art Bell
is a national syndicated talk show host on over night radio broadcast.
He is also a ham.



>
> Coast to Coast, Jan 1st
>      Wayne Green (Repeat) 73 Magazine Publisher and all around great
> guy.
>
>
>
Coast to Coast and Dreamland programs are also available on C-band
satellite, Satcom-1 (old F1), Transponder 5, 5.8 MHz Wide Band
Audio.
>                               [Art Bell]
>
>                        Radio Station Affiliates
>
>     ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Coast to Coast AM is Live Weeks Nights at 11PM Pacific / 2AM Eastern
> for 5 Hours. The network will refeed the first hour over the
> satellite, so your station may carry the first hour last, if it does
> not join the program on time.
>
For alist of radio station affilates visit:
http://www.artbell.com/
ftp.icom.comKeith Wyatt <[e-mail]>
Peace through understanding.
PGP key at all key servers.
FREEZE! European Internet police! We have you surrounded, drop your mouse and
come out with your PGP pass pharse and secret key! Citizens able to keep secre
ts from their government is the most dangerous threat to many governments. Get
 PGP and become a threat to your repressive government today!
---------


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From: [e-mail] (Keith)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Wayne Green on Art Bell Program Jan 1st (rebroadcast)
Date: Mon, 25 Dec 1995 01:13:11 GMT
Organization: Call America Internet Services  [phone]
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NNTP-Posting-Host: 204.212.163.126
X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.0.82

For those who missed Wayne Green on the Art Bell program a month ago
there will be a repeat of his earlier broadcast with Art Bell. Art
Bell is a national syndicated talk show host on over night radio
broadcast. Art Bell is also a ham.



>
> Coast to Coast, Jan 1st
>      Wayne Green (Repeat) 73 Magazine Publisher and all around great
> guy.
>
>
>
Coast to Coast and Dreamland programs are also available on C-band
satellite, Satcom-1 (old F1), Transponder 5, 5.8 MHz Wide Band
Audio.
>                               [Art Bell]
>
>                        Radio Station Affiliates
>
>     ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Coast to Coast AM is Live Weeks Nights at 11PM Pacific / 2AM Eastern
> for 5 Hours. The network will refeed the first hour over the
> satellite, so your station may carry the first hour last, if it does
> not join the program on time.
>
For a list of radio station affilates visit:
http://www.artbell.com/
ftp.icom.com




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From: [e-mail] (Christopher K Greenhalgh)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc,rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: What do you think of the KPC-9612 TNC ?
Date: 22 Dec 1995 14:00:12 GMT
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In article <4bcutj$[e-mail]>, John Boyd <[e-mail]> wrote:

>Aside from that, I need to ask a question.  If they "cut you off",
>which is, in other words, interfering with your transmission, aren't
>they violating FCC regulations in doing so?  Let's move the analogy to
>voice.  Let's say that everyone that *I* talk to that used an HTX-202
>had what I considered excess noise on their signal, and I refused to
>talk to them, and if I heard someone on that I knew used an HTX-202
>and I keyed over their signal, or cut them off at the autopatch,
>someone would be sic'ing the FCC on me. If I tried to tell someone
>that they could only use certain brands of radios to talk, I think the
>ACLU would be volunteering to take my case.  How can they get away
>with this kind of behavior?
>
>Any enlightenment on the issue would be appreciated.

Well in packet, the term "cut you off" doesnt mean "interfering". Your
node, mailbox, BBS, station, ect. can be set not to accept certain callsigns.
You store the 'list' of calls either in the operating firmware of the TNC, or
the controlling software. This doesnt stop and/or interfere with that station,
just doesnt let that person from useing your equipment.

The only call I keep in my list is "NOCALL". This is the default 'callsign'
of a TNC when its powered up, and the user doesnt put his call in.

Other than purposful and malicious illegal transmissions, I would try to
work the problem out with the station, rather than 'lock' them out.

Happy holidays    :)



--
  +=================================+===================================+
  |Christopher K. Greenhalgh, N8WCT |[e-mail] |
  |Electronic/Computer Tech. @ OSU  |radio: n8wct@w8cqk.#cmh.oh.usa.noam|

  +=================================+===================================+


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From: [e-mail] (Bob Smith)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc,rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: What do you think of the KPC-9612 TNC ?
Date: 24 Dec 1995 16:59:55 GMT
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>>Any enlightenment on the issue would be appreciated.

Using your example - it's more like refusing to talk to someone who is, in you
r
opinion, has a foul mouth on the repeater.  THERE IS NO LAW THAT SAYS YOU
MUST RESPOND TO EACH CALLER ON THE REPEATER IS THERE?

Sorry - you can not manufacture any legal wrongdoing here whatsoever.  It does
 go
against the spirit of ham radio though - but it is simply their choice.
--
Bob Smith, Atlanta, GA
[e-mail]
TAPR 5412  ARRL



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From: [e-mail] (Jim Smith)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: When was I first licensed?
Date: Tue, 26 Dec 95 05:09:33 GMT
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In article <4bms9b$[e-mail]>,
   [e-mail](michael silva) wrote:
>I know this will shock some of you, but I don't remember the exact year
>I was first licensed ('71 or '72, WN6RRE <wonderful CW call, but when I
>upgraded [WA6RRE] and got on 'phone, glmflblmpf>).  Is there any way I
>can find out?  Thanks and Merry Christmas.
>
>73,
>Mike, KK6GM
>
>
For a fee, the Callbook will send you a certificate showing you what issue you

were first in. A lot of organizations will accept this as proof of time, like
if you want to show you are indeed a candidate for the QCWA, for example.
(P.S., I don't know if QCWA actually will accept them, I was just told they
might...)
Jim N8AVX (WN8RYN, back somehere around 1976...)


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From: [e-mail](michael silva)
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Subject: When was I first licensed?
Date: 25 Dec 1995 18:58:51 GMT
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I know this will shock some of you, but I don't remember the exact year
I was first licensed ('71 or '72, WN6RRE <wonderful CW call, but when I
upgraded [WA6RRE] and got on 'phone, glmflblmpf>).  Is there any way I
can find out?  Thanks and Merry Christmas.

73,
Mike, KK6GM




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From: Stephan M. Anderman <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: When was I first licensed?
Date: Tue, 26 DEC 95 20:19:46 -0500
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QCWA has no requirement of "proof" of first year of licensure, but the
certificate from the Callbook people would certainly help if there was ever a
question.  Forgeting the year isn't so bad...  I know people that have
forgotten their first call sign!!
     Incidently, the new FCC database maintains all information on a licensee.
Thank God for technology - our children will never have such questions!!
-
Stephan Anderman, WA3RKB
Stillwater, NY
[e-mail]


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From: [e-mail] (Gary V. Deutschmann, Sr.)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: When was I first licensed?
Date: Wed, 27 Dec 1995 01:24:57 GMT
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[e-mail](michael silva) wrote:

>I know this will shock some of you, but I don't remember the exact year
>I was first licensed ('71 or '72, WN6RRE <wonderful CW call, but when I
>upgraded [WA6RRE] and got on 'phone, glmflblmpf>).  Is there any way I
>can find out?  Thanks and Merry Christmas.

>73,
>Mike, KK6GM


Don't feel bad Mike, I have spent a few hundred dollars buying up old
callbooks looking for my name and callsign to use as proof for QCWA
and the only time I did find it, it was listed under my Elmers name
instead of mine, bummer.

I also called the callbook company and sent them in the required fee
for looking it up and they turned up no results.

I have a few awards from the ARRL one being a serialized numbered WAS
certificate bearing my name and callsign and they claim they lost all
records of WAS awards previous to number 10,000.  I thought, no
biggie, I have several other references, like an unsolicited award for
Emergency Communications Commendation, A Certificate of Code
Proficiency with four added award stickers for higher WPM, they
couldn't find any of those either.  I really lost my cool when I
discovered that I was never listed in their magazine when I earned a
DXCC award and they had no record of that either.

Needless to say, with all the other problems I had with the ARRL, I am
no longer a member and never will be again.

As a last resort, I sent a few letters to the FCC, I knew before I
sent the letters that it was next to futile, not only could the FCC
not find my first call, they could not find any, even my then current
license callsign which appeared in every database across the country,
but not the FCCs.

When I upgraded, the FCC again lost my current call and denied that I
ever had a callsign and I was required to retake all my tests.  They
later discovered my callsign they said I didn't have and rectified the
situation, but they still blundered and I appeared in the 1995
callbook twice under two separate callsigns and I received 5 different
callsigns in a 30 day period, burp.  Don't believe me, look up KB0LMW
and N0ZOI two of the callsigns I received last year.

For over 25 years I held the callsign KA0CDE and previous to that
callsign I had about three I don't remember, but my first callsign I
will never forget K0VCH issued October, 1959.

I am currently licensed as KG0ZP.

Gary




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From: [e-mail] (Bill L. Kotarski)
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Subject: Re: When was I first licensed?
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michael silva ([e-mail]) wrote:
> I know this will shock some of you, but I don't remember the exact year
> I was first licensed ('71 or '72, WN6RRE <wonderful CW call, but when I
> upgraded [WA6RRE] and got on 'phone, glmflblmpf>).  Is there any way I
> can find out?  Thanks and Merry Christmas.

> 73,
> Mike, KK6GM

Ask for someone with 1971 callbook and see if you are listed.
And keep going down in the year to see when you are not listed..
Some of the older callbooks had a section on NEW CALL's
 But I think back in 71 you had to keep LOG books, I don't remember when
they Eliminated that requirement....



--
[e-mail]-------------------- [e-mail]
[e-mail][e-mail]
[e-mail]      And Whatever Else You People Call Me
N8JOS--- General Class since 1968   EX-WB8DKR  and WN8DKR



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From: Peter Coffee AC6EN <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: Why Morse Code Today?
Date: 22 Dec 1995 18:23:33 GMT
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Sending of Morse is vastly underused in most efforts to teach the code.
I have seen many people who were struggling at 4 wpm jump to 8 wpm
with remarkable speed after they started sending as well as listening.


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From: [e-mail] (David K. Ellison)
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Subject: WTB: 1996 Va. testing sites
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I am looking for 1996 Va test sites, I live in the Hopewell area and I
I am willing to travel 75 miles from my home to take My Extra Class
wriiten Exam. Only interested in Jan-March 96.

73's Ke4uux David Ellison



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From: [e-mail](Rob Peebles )
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Subject: Re: WWV - Boulder, Co.
Date: 20 Dec 1995 04:17:13 GMT
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In <4b7uve$[e-mail]> "Joseph P. Feehan"
<[e-mail]> writes:
>
>Does anyone know whether a WEB page exists for this "Time
>Station"?
>
>73, VP2VBL.
>

http://central.bldrdoc.gov/doc-tour/doctour.html

Rob Peebles, WD8LXX
Dublin, Ohio



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From: Michael Mayer <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: WWV - Boulder, Co.
Date: Fri, 22 Dec 1995 16:37:46 -0500
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Ron Miller wrote:

 < stuff snipped >

> (I can see the antennas from here at work if I stand up in my cubicle.)

So can you tell time by listening to your teeth?  :-)

(referring to a related thread in this newsgroup as well as
rec.radio.scanner and rec.radio.shortwave talking about
people who hear AM broadcasts in tooth fillings and other metallic
objects if they are near powerful radio stations)

Mike

--
^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v Catch the WAVE ^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v
Michael Mayer, Senior Technical Support Engineer      Amateur Radio KB8RJO
Visual Numerics, Inc.  32915 Aurora Rd.  Suite 160,  Solon OH  44139  USA
Email: [e-mail]    Human: 216-248-4900    Fax: [phone]
v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v Good * Cheap * Quick  (pick any two) ^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^


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From: [e-mail] (Richard Delaney)
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Subject: Re: WWV - Boulder, Co.
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Michael Mayer ([e-mail]) in article ve <[e-mail]
.com> on Fri, 22 Dec 1995 16:37:46 -0500 wrote:
: Ron Miller wrote:

:  < stuff snipped >

: > (I can see the antennas from here at work if I stand up in my cubicle.)

Let me guess, due to the computer on your desk, you can't get a thing from
them, right :)

--
Matthew Delaney  N2MDB    [e-mail]   ax.25: n2mdb@k2sk.#eny.ny.usa.na
Finger for PGP key      http://www.j51.com:80/~delaney/
BBS: [phone]
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From: [e-mail] (Ron Klein )
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: WWV - Boulder, Co.
Date: 24 Dec 1995 01:54:30 GMT
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In <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (charles
copeland) writes:

>
>In article <4ba4ri$[e-mail]>, Ron Miller <[e-mail]>
wrote:
>>Joseph P. Feehan ([e-mail]) wrote:
>>: Does anyone know whether a WEB page exists for this "Time
>>: Station"?
>>
>>: 73, VP2VBL.
>>
>>
>>If you listen to the voice ID, you'll find that WWV transmits from
>>FT. COLLINS Colorado. Not the People's Republic of Boulder.
>>
>>We locals are a bit touchy about this. Kind of like how the
Australians
>>are about being called Austrians!
>
>Hmmm, TIMESET.EXE states NIST is in Boulder,CO. This is a program that
>calls the atomic clock and updates your PC clock via modem.
>
>
>

Yes, NIST is in the Peoples Republic of Boulder and maintains the clock.
However, the WWV transmitter site is north of Fort Collins, Colorad0 -
roughly 50 miles n-n-e of Boulder.

And, by the way, Fort Collins is developing somewhat similar "peoples
republic" characteristics by corruption from Boulder.

I'm in Berthoud, Colorado - roughly 1/2 way in between - where we refuse
to accept the peoples republic influence of either Fort Collins or
Boulder ;)

73,
--
Ron Klein - W0OSK
-----------------
[e-mail]





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From: [e-mail] (WA6UBE)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: AM/Military Radio/AWA Hams On The Interne
Date: 25 Dec 1995 20:24:44 -0500
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Chris Browne writes:
>Just wondering who of us are out here in cyberspace as well as on 75 and
160 >meters? Please let me know of any Web Sites or news groups on the
following subjects:
>AM operation, military radio collecting and restoration, vintage and
>antique radio collecting and restoration.
>See you all on the AMI 160 Meter Event on December 26th!  Hope Santa
>leaves lots of heavy gray, green, and/or black boxes under the tree!
>73,
>Chris, AJ1G
>Stonington, CT

Hi there! ... I am a  user of any equipment that is green and has handles
on it! .. also a member of  the  Military Vehicle Collector Club ( MVCC )

plz see the write up on my communications truck in the October 1993 issue
of Popular Communications magazine  :-)

Trish



[e-mail] "The Vertical Skywave Girl"
Mobile radio repair shop supervisor - City of San Jose, GSA-Communications


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From: [e-mail] (KF2TI)
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Subject: Re: Hello??? this is KD4DMM  anyone out there?? CQ CQ CQ
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My Mis. Steak  Drew's call is Kilo Delta Four Dumb Dumber Meathead...

not Dumb Mental Midget



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From: [e-mail] (Stephan Rashkin)
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[e-mail] (Bill Sohl  Budd Lake) wrote:

>                        ^^^^^^^^^
>I have been licensed since the mid-50s and essays were absolutely
>not involved at that point.  My dad got his license in the 40s and
>does not recall any essay tests being part of his general exam.

And by essays, I mean it was not a multiple guess question..The
question asked to describe the biasing techniques for the different
classes of amplifiers..it had to be briefly answered in a few
sentences...Also schematics had to be drawn and missing components
had to be drawn in...I remember it very well, and so does my friend
WA2KBZ and a number of my other long time friends..


Also on another front..there is nothing wrong with establishing
another class with 5wpm speed, however Drew wants to abolish cw on
the exams entirely...

73's Steve, WA2NHZ




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[e-mail] (Bill Sohl  Budd Lake) wrote:


>I have been licensed since the mid-50s and essays were absolutely
>not involved at that point.  My dad got his license in the 40s and
>does not recall any essay tests being part of his general exam.

I also might add that the tests in the 40's were different..I believe
the regulations were revised in 1951changing class A, B, etc to the
ones we are basically familiar with today..so actually did your dad
have a General or class A, B, C and was his administered by mail
or in person..The tests were revised many times during that period..
I actually have copies of old de-classified exams from those periods
through the 60's.. Also in what year and where did you take your
General test?  Mine was  in 1960..and in NYC at the FCC..Did you take
your General in the 60's, 70's or in the 80's?  There was also a
difference between the do at home Conditionals and Technician
licenses--I administered lots of them..

73's

Steve, WA2NHZ





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>Chris Browne writes:
>>Just wondering who of us are out here in cyberspace as well as on 75 and
>160 >meters? Please let me know of any Web Sites or news groups on the
>following subjects:
>>AM operation, military radio collecting and restoration, vintage and
>>antique radio collecting and restoration.
>>See you all on the AMI 160 Meter Event on December 26th!  Hope Santa
>>leaves lots of heavy gray, green, and/or black boxes under the tree!
>>73,
>>Chris, AJ1G
>>Stonington, CT

Hi Chris,
Are you aware of the Boatanchors group
on the mail server?

Steve, WA2NHZ





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From: "Anthony R. Gold" <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Wanted! Which one to choose?
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In article <4bo8ie$[e-mail]> [e-mail]  writes:

> Hellow?
>
> I've decided to buy a shortwave radio receiver.
> There are SONY ICF-SW33, ICF-SW7600G, ICF-SW55...
>
>  I want impartial report or advices about  them.
> It will be very great help if you send me one.

I use the SW55 for shortwave and broadcast reception and I like it very
much. It can be used for CW/SSB, but is not ideal with wide filtering and
rather large tuning steps (100 Hz, I believe).  There are enough memories
for most purposes and the set is very pleasant to hold and operate and
shows good sensitivity.  It has some toy gadgets, such as world time and
daylight display, but these don't really detract from the set's quality.

I am very familiar with the older 7600D and that set was mainly limited by
too few memories (10). The tuning steps were even larger (5kHz) but the
set also had a tunable BFO. I have not tried the newer 7600G so I don't
know how Sony have improved the model. I don't know the SW33.

Regards,
--
   Tony - G3SKR / AA2PM                  email: [e-mail]
                                                [e-mail]
                                        packet: g3skr@n0ary.#nocal.ca.usa.na


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From: [e-mail] (Fred Muller  Newton)
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--

Frederick Muller,      Halsted Middle School Library
Librarian              59 Halsted Street               voice [phone]
[e-mail]     Newton, NJ  07860                 FAX [phone]


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From: [e-mail] (Angus Mcleod)
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Does anyone know where I can get an up-to-date Prefix/Country list via FTP?

73, de Gus 8P6SM
Barbados - The easternmost isle.

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From: [e-mail] (Lee Reynolds)
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Now,
    Who can guess why I've started using a kill file? First time
I've ever used it in ten years of reading this group!

    Now, if they'll just put out readers with kill capability for the PC
relays, I'll never hear from that annoying Olde Pharte again! (He was
spewing the same old stuff six years ago on the PC relays - kind of like
Wayne Green!)

 Have fun, all!

   Lee KD1SQ




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From: [e-mail] (D. Citron)
Subject: South Florida Radio Pages
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From: [e-mail] (D. Citron)
Subject: South Florida Radio Pages
Date: 27 Dec 1995 00:31:12 -0500
Organization: CyberGate, Inc.
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The South Florida Radio Pages are now on the web, with links to the web
pages of many local radio stations and programs originating in south
Florida -- and various other radio-related resources.

     http://www.univox.com/radio

Included among them is a link to the page for Miami's annual amateur
radio & computer show, the Tropical Hamboree & Computer Show '96,
February 3-4, 1996, at Miami's Youth Fair/Exposition Fairgrounds.

There's also info about Craig Crossman's syndicated Computer America
radio show, which originates in W. Palm Beach Sunday afternoons. And
Logon, Dante DeAngelis' talk radio program about the 'net, heard Sunday
nights at 11 PM on WFTL, 1400 kHz, Fort Lauderdale.

I'm looking for suggestions for other relevant links, too. Especially
radio hobbyist clubs headquartered in south Florida.

======================================================================
*  David H. Citron  *  Tech Writer/Journalist/Copywriter/Web Author  *
            * a/k/a the CyberCurmudgeon syndicated columnist *
                      * e-mail: [e-mail] *
  The CyberCurmudgeon Column Archives: http://www.univox.com/writer/
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"It is one of our most important laws that none of us may interfere
in the affairs of others."
     ... Captain Kirk (in Bread and Circuses episode of Star Trek),
     stardate 4040.7 ... quoted from _Star_Trek_Speaks_, by Susan
     Sackett, Fred Goldstein, and Stan Goldstein (Pocket Books, 1979)
======================================================================


From Unknown Mon Jan 01 01:15:55 1996
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From: [e-mail] (KF2TI)
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Subject: Re: no-code=no-brain
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In article <4bm9bj$[e-mail]>, [e-mail]
(Drew Durigan) writes:

>Not only that, the fire will also allow him to communicate by way of
>smoke signals (which I'm sure you taught him along with Morse code,
right?
>)
>
>-Drew in Charlotte-
> KF4DDM

that's correct...SMARTASS


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From: [e-mail] (KA9EGW)
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Subject: Re: Hello??? this is KD4DMM  anyone out there?? CQ CQ CQ
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sunspot peak in 89-91?  Not...


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From: [e-mail] (KF2TI)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Hello??? this is KD4DMM  anyone out there?? CQ CQ CQ
Date: 27 Dec 1995 05:08:26 -0500
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In article <4bm8mg$[e-mail]>, [e-mail]
(Drew Durigan) writes:

>None of the above.  11-meters, during the last sunspot cycle peak of
1989-
>91. And the statement is true...Australia, Japan, Belgium, England,
>Ireland, Spain, Alaska, Hawaii, several South American countries, etc.,
>etc.  Did I ever say I "talked around the world?"  NO!
>

You just did you witless fool...talking to all those countries is around
the world...and on 11 meters...got the cards to porove it...oh I
know...you don't qsl...hey  I worked 5 galaxies already.. on .0001
milliwatts

BTW, sunspot cycle peaked well before that..or so i'm told



>So, I stand by the staement "I have worked many countries with 5 watts."

>With the right propagation and an open frequency, you CAN talk around the

>world on 5 watts.  Gee, you almighty, upper-class, pro-code, been-a-ham
>for 30, 40, 50-years types should at least know that much.

Been licensed since 1990, wish i were upper class ( as oppsoed yo your
no-class), not pro-code, not no-code, really indifferent to the whole
thing

so there Mr. smarty pants NO it NOT


From Unknown Mon Jan 01 01:15:58 1996
From: [e-mail] (Beno M Bequette Jr)
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Subject: AM/Military Radio/AWA Ham
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
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In a message dated 12-27-95. BENO M BEQUETTE JR wrote to  WA6UBE :

 W> Subject: AM/Military Radio/AWA Hams On The Interne

 W> From: [e-mail] (WA6UBE) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
 W> Reply-To: [e-mail] (WA6UBE)

 W> Chris Browne writes:
>Just wondering who of us are out here in cyberspace as well as on 75 and
160 >meters? Please let me know of any Web Sites or news groups on the
 W> following subjects:
>AM operation, military radio collecting and restoration, vintage and
>antique radio collecting and restoration.
>See you all on the AMI 160 Meter Event on December 26th!  Hope Santa
>leaves lots of heavy gray, green, and/or black boxes under the tree!

>Chris, AJ1G Stonington, CT

here is the names and address I have found in looking for old Military radio
information.

 Steve Haney
Haney Electroinics
7225 Greenlee
Fort Worth, Texas, 75112
Phone [phone].

Tartan Electronics
PO Box 36841, Tucson,
Arizona, 85740-6841
Phone [phone]

Good Luck,

Happy New Years to All,

Beno

 -> Alice4Mac 2.4.4 E QWK Eval:13Dec95
Origin: Alice strikes back @

 * Origin: Beyond Tomorrow - Moberly, MO - [phone] (1:2805/2)


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From: [e-mail] (Eric Oyen)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: 10 meters dead? NOT!
Date: Wed, 27 Dec 1995 08:18:38 GMT
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Well folks,
I just read a message that indicated that 10 meters was as "dead as the
proverbial doorknob". I think not! I have listened for the last 2 days
during the christmas holidays and found 6 meters, 10 meters, 12,15, AND
20 extremely active. WAKE UP AND SMELL THE COFFEE, PEOPLE!!! Its out
there and if you don't use it, the FCC will give it to someone that
will!

Signed..

Eric Oyen (N7ZZT)


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From: [e-mail] (Geert Jan de Groot)
Subject: 'ISM' type comm equipment: thread for 70cm band?
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Hi there,

The Europification has brought some very bad news to European
hams who like to use the 70 cm band.
In most countries, this band is shared with the ISM service
(Industrial, Scientific, Medical). ISM is intended for those
applications where RF is needed (and can leak) for other purposes
than communcation: welding, melting, and the like.
One of the ISM allocations is 433.920 MHz +- 0.87 MHz.
The European 70 allocation is 430-440 MHz (in some countries
4332-438 MHz, may be even less). Small-bandwith is concentrated
on the lower end of the band; 432.300 is SSB calling freq,
433.500 is FM calling freq.
Other users (including hams), 'should accept interference caused by ISM'.
Since ISM is usually in industrial areas and hams usually don't live
there, these usages were more or less compatible.

Apart from ISM usage, this ISM band is also used for door openers,
car alarm remote control, and the like. This has lead to situations
where people were unable to unlock their car because of the neighbour
having a contest, but no serious harm was done.
All of these are 'low power apps'

However, some new rules may change that all. The low power apps
limit is now raised to 10 mW, and plans are made to build wireless
loudspeakers and 2-way comm equipment for the band.

Of course, if these applications are interfered by hams, then the
ham applications have precedence. (if you ever thought that RFI problems
were difficult, then try to explain THIS to an angry neighbour who
just bought a $3000 high-end TV set with wireless surround speakers!)
I'm not shure if the precendence rule will work for us in practice.

Another concern is the 2-way radios, as these may be compatible
with regular ham equipment, and we all know what can happen then.
Note that most of the 70cm FM allocation would be part of the ISM
frequencies, and there's no protection against someone calling himself
W1AW there - it would be nearly impossible to protect against making
contacts with non-hams.

Has anyone seen these 2-way radios yet? What frequencies do they use?
What raster? modulation? Are they provided with built-in CTCSS or something
like that? Would we hams be able to use CTCSS or something similar to
shield against the ISM folk?

How have other people dealt with this kind of situation? Are we doomed?

73, and best for 1996,

Geert Jan PE1HZG



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Subject: Good little logging program
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http://www.gti.net/mcdowell  has a little program called
QSLNET51.ZIP, very fast and easy to use, with built in
antenna calculator.


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From: [e-mail] (Burch Akin)
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Subject: Re: 10 meters dead? NOT!
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[e-mail] (Eric Oyen) wrote:

>Well folks,
>I just read a message that indicated that 10 meters was as "dead as the
>proverbial doorknob". I think not! I have listened for the last 2 days
>during the christmas holidays and found 6 meters, 10 meters, 12,15, AND
>20 extremely active. WAKE UP AND SMELL THE COFFEE, PEOPLE!!! Its out
>there and if you don't use it, the FCC will give it to someone that
>will!

>Signed..

>Eric Oyen (N7ZZT)

There was a pretty good 10 meter opening during Christmas and the
surrounding days.  On christmas day I worked about 20 states in a
couple of hours (from Florida).  Didn't hear too many stations out of
the US but it still was a lot of fun.

[e-mail]
KE4ZQV




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From: [e-mail] (charles copeland)
Subject: 11m,10m,6m  booming
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10m, 6m were booming 25th, 26th, and we'll see about today.
First time in months for me.

I haven't heard 10m open since summer, and nothing like this.
Even listened to 11m briefly and heard good buddies all across USA.

Heard WB0NOA (Gordon West) all day on 28.400 and he reported
contacts with Japan. Wonder what type of rig he has to have
such a strong signal?

Any reports out there regarding unsual propogation?



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Subject: Re: Hello??? this is KD4DMM  anyone out there?? CQ CQ CQ
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Many electronics stores carry an ARRL book entitled "Now You're Talking,"
while a smaller number carry "The ARRL Operating Manual."  The first
is a study guide aimed at passing the Novice and/or Technician Class
written exams: the former license gives limited privileges on worldwide
shortwave bands and some local VHF communication options, while the
latter gives full privileges on all VHF and UHF bands used by hams
(including the 50 MHz band that can be a worldwide band for a few years
out of every 11-year sunspot cycle).  The Novice license also requires
a 5 word-per-minute Morse Code test in addition to one written exam,
while Technicians pass the Novice test plus another written test and
can optionally take the 5 wpm test to get the combined privileges of
both types of license (this is called a Technician Plus).

The Operating Manual gives more discussion of what hams actually do after
they get a license.  If you can't find either book locally, they can be
ordered from ARRL at [phone].  Information can also be requested
free from the ARRL by calling [phone].

You may wonder who this ARRL is.  The American Radio Relay League is the
largest ham organization in the U.S., with roughly one fourth of U.S.
licensed hams as members.  Its monthly magazine publishes technical articles
aimed at both new and experienced hams and includes articles on operating
techniques and competitive operating events.  Enjoying ham radio is also
greatly aided by joining a local club, of which most areas have at least
one.

Good luck!


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-- [ From: Danny Ozbirn * EMC.Ver #2.3 ] --


>Date: Tue, 26 Dec 95 14:05:42 EST
>From: [e-mail]
>Subject: Dumber than dumb (what hams know about Electronics

>I bet 99% of those that read this cannot answer this. Of course we will never
know because those >that cannot answer, will not, so we will never know.

>If a tranistor is driven into saturation and the collector is attached to a
1000 ohm resistor with 10 >volts Vcc what is Vce?

>If the same transistor is cutoff what is Vce?

>Will the tranistor get hotter at cutoff, saturation or in the middle of its
conduction range?


>Burt Fisher
>K1OIK

VCE At Cutoff  10V

VCE AT saturation  0V or near about it

at saturation the transistor will only be drawing 10Ma so it wont get very hot
either time but saturation
will make it the warmest  and it will stay cool at cutoff   and if you bias it
half way it might make a good class A Amplifier

Don't complicate there lives up too much Burt

73  Dan WB5HKK

ps I guess that makes me a 1%


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From: [e-mail] (Terry Fugate)
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Subject: Re: MFJ-1270C WEFAX Reception
Date: 27 Dec 1995 18:19:48 GMT
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In article <4bi83n$jaj$[e-mail]>, Brian Webb <102670.
[e-mail]> says:
>
>I just purchased an MFJ-1270C TNC. It has HF weather FAX
>capability, but the user manual says virtually nothing about how
>to use this feature. Does anybody know how to command the unit
>for WEFAX reception and the tuning offset to use with my HF
>receiver?
>
>73s
>
>Brian Webb, KD6NRP
If the MFJ1270c is anything like the MFJ1278, the wefax reception is
pathetic.  Black and white with NO resolution.  Check out you
disk that came with the tnc.  In the 1278 the command is something
like mode fax NNNN where NNN is the type of fax.  I don't have my manual
here(at work)but I will look up the exact command and what program
I had to use.

A much better approach is to download JVFAX 7.0 from either the ARRL,
Amsat, of(I think) the oakland ftp sites.  It is near freeware,  Works
GREAT and uses a simple uA741 powered by, and "talking" to a Asynch/comm
port.  Costs less than $5.oo us if you buy everything new.  It is really
the best way to go.  Hamcom is another good(though not as gooda as JVFAX
in my opinion).  If you have a "real" or 100% compatable Sound blaster,
you could try WXMAN2.  It does a good job just by feeding the sb card
with audio.
8080KHz is the best place to start.  Nam is on every night as of a couple
of weeks ago.  I guess they will keep on the air even if the Feds can't
get their budget togather.
None of the above programs can receive NOAA wx sat fax with out some work.
JVFAX has a diagram for a WX sat am to fm fax converter.  It uses an exar
2201?(check out the diagram), and while it is best to build a "real" am
fax demod, you can get impressive results by feeding the output of the
exar to any of the above programs.
Good luck
Email me if you have any questions, I won't be back on unitl jan 2, 1996.
(unless I end up in here for something else)
WEFAX is great fun, do not get discouraged by any intitial hassels.  Hang
in there.  It will be worth it.


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From: [e-mail] (KA9EGW)
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Subject: Re: Code Quick?
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I had real good luck going from 5 wpm on paper to 25 wpm in my head in
less than a year by checking into my ARRL Section's CW Traffic Net
evenings and handling traffic; there it's sink or swim and you get to play
with the real QRQ boys.
Don't be misled; I found the ops there to be quite supportive,
accommadating and encouraging; nonetheless it DID raise my speed that much
that fast.  Also, in the early 80's QST published an article called "QRQ
20", a two-pager, and the techniques described therein seemed to help more
than any amount of tapes, etc etc.
NG9U reports good luck with the Bahr "subliminal" tapes but they didn't
work for me...

Hope this helps, and all the best to you.

73


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From: Sean McDonald <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Sound Blaster 16 as a DSP unit ?
Date: 27 Dec 1995 20:15:58 GMT
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Hi. Does anyone have any information / programmes that use
the Creative Labs Sound Blaster 16 as a DSP unit, similar to
the MFJ-784 ?

I would appreciate any information to implement such a unit.

Thanks, 73s.

Sean McDonald, ZS5TM
email:[e-mail]



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From: Avery Russell <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Test of message system
Date: 27 Dec 1995 20:30:52 GMT
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This is a test. Sorry for any problems.
Regards
A Russell

mailto:[e-mail]



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From: [e-mail] (Jack Malone)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Packet on an Icom IC2AT ??
Date: Wed, 27 Dec 1995 21:14:10 GMT
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[e-mail] (Stan Huntting) wrote:

>In article <4b980k$rtm$[e-mail]>,
>[e-mail] says...

>>I have an icom 2AT and no other base/mobile radio in shack and
>>have on ald Kantronics packet communicator.  Can I rig up the 2AT
>>for packet by using the mic input and PTT and audio out...?   Has
>>anyone tried this.. ?

yes u can i used my 2at for pkt for quiet some time. am still using it
for 2m voice, it is a very good rig for new comers not fancy but   it
not bad for a basic rig. it might be big but it is wellbuilt and will
take some abuse.

jack kb5yxb

jack malone
[e-mail]



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From: [e-mail] (charles copeland)
Subject: Internet site for Solar Flux history?
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest)
Date: Wed, 27 Dec 1995 22:03:09 GMT
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Is there an internet site that supplies hourly updated charts
on solar flux, A, And K ?

I know the atomic clock tells you this every 18 minutes, but
I want the to know every hour for last week.

Thanks.



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From: [e-mail] (Jim Storm)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: DSP filters
Date: Wed, 27 Dec 1995 22:14:57 GMT
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[e-mail] (Paul R. Ryack) wrote:

>I'm having a terrible problem with line noise that the local power
>company has been only partially successful in solving.  Does anybody
>have any comments pro or con on using any of the outboard DSP units in
>knocking down line noise. TNX.

Hi Paul,

I read someone else's comment on the ANC-4 sometime ago. They said it
worked miracles with their line noise. Since it goes in the antenna
line ahead of the rig, you eliminate the noise before it gets to your
S-meter.

                                      73, Jim WB6LWS




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From: George Kyller <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: IC 706 mods
Date: 27 Dec 1995 23:22:23 GMT
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Can anyone help me with locating information to the modifications that are ava
ilable
for the Icom IC 706. I am new to the internet and am having a little trouble t
rying
to navigate around but practice makes perfect ! sorry if I do anything "incorr
ect"
when I post this.

any help is greatly appreciated !

George Kyller  KA1CXX



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Subject: IC 706 mods
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Can anyone help me with locating information to the modifications that are ava
ilable
for the Icom IC 706. I am new to the internet and am having a little trouble t
rying
to navigate around but practice makes perfect ! sorry if I do anything "incorr
ect"
when I post this.

any help is greatly appreciated !

George Kyller  KA1CXX



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From: [e-mail] (Robyn Lyn Lempicki)
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Hi!  Has anyone tried Code Quick or a similiar program for bringing your speed
up?  I am looking for some input on them...TIA  -Gerry



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From: [e-mail] (Mike Carter)
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Subject: Re: Connecting computers over radio.
Date: 27 Dec 1995 23:39:01 -0700
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In article <4b77u4$[e-mail]>,
   [e-mail] (Eucke Warren) wrote:
[e-mail] (Joe Mack) wrote:
-
(Previous article deleted)

->VHF through microwave is needed for this sort of data rate, 56kb modems are
->available for this for about $300 (I think)
->>Does anyone know how possible, leagal and/or expencive is this project?
-
->Well everyone wants one of these. They are starting to be off the shelf but
->they're expensive in the kilo$ region I think. There's things like
->personal computer communicators which send RF around a building at about
->900MHz and if you put an antenna on them they go for about 2 miles.
->I understand that companies have developed stuff at about 2-5GHz to do the
same
->thing. I'm hoping that ham packet will all go over to this sort of stuff
->so we can have ethernet data rates on 10GHz.
-
-
->Joe Mack NA3T
->      [e-mail]

AT&T is busy installing PCS equipment licensed for band A 2GHZ and Narrow band

940Mhz at a public facility I work at. Review of their specifications show a
singular T1 driving the installation. Range on a line-of-sight installation in

open terrain with antenna HAAT around 100', the effective coverage zone is 1
mile. Getting into 2 miles puts you deep into the roll-off zone. The facility
has several buildings with several floors and configurations. Due to presence
of public, ERP is being limited to around 150W. (About 6-10 Watts at the Amp)
[ Look Ma, This plastic dome is a magic sun lamp ]

I dont think we'll be seeing ethernet data rates on any publicly offered PCS
net with these kind of specs I'm reading through. I think their target market
isnt the heavy video conferencing crowd they play it up to be. Most lines will
service digital cellular telephony.

Cheers





+----------------------+-----------------------------------+
| Mike Carter          |                                   |
| [e-mail]    |   Happiness is a rocket in flight |
| MAD ROCKET SCIENTIST |                                   |
+----------------------+-----------------------------------+


From Unknown Mon Jan 01 01:16:17 1996
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From: [e-mail] (DAVE M . SCHERTZER)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: $$$ Buyers BEWARE//VE7-EXG $$$ !!!
Date: 28 Dec 1995 01:02:14 GMT
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When buying New/Used equip from Frank be sure you
perform an operational check on the equip. Be sure
and verify that ALL of the options that he says are
"installed" are actually in the equip in question.

I bought a Icom V68 HT in which he told me the CTCSS
tone board was installed. I took his word as a fellow
ham. To my dismay, I later discovered that NO CTCSS was
installed!!!

When I contacted Frank he was very rude and told me that I
should have known better and that CTCSS was an option, not
standard. I knew that it was an option and specifically
asked if it was installed as the radio was useless to me
without the option. He told me it was installed!!!

Franks told me that If I wanted any refund that  would have
meet him in Burnaby BC, a 6hr drive from my location. Not much
of a solution, eh?

So,take this into consideration if you are thinking about making
a purchase from Frank.


 de  VE7-LFA/W7






From Unknown Mon Jan 01 01:16:18 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Allan Moyse)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: I need help/advice on homebrew device
Date: 28 Dec 1995 02:00:49 GMT
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I am looking for a kit or device or circuit which can be built into a
desk microphone that will send the letter "K" when the PTT button is
released.  This would signify that you are now ready to receive.  If
anybody has any Ideas, please let me know.
        Brian

Please reply via E-Mail







From Unknown Mon Jan 01 01:16:19 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Scanner119)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: 2 Channel Maxtrac to 16 Channel Maxtrac Conversion?????
Date: 28 Dec 1995 02:42:13 -0500
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I saw a posting on here the other day on converting a 2 channel Motorola
Maxtrac(VHF High Band) to a 16 channel.  I have access to both the
software and hardware I need some technical advice on how to do it.  I
have
4 mobiles and 1 base station I use for my construction company and would
like to convert them to 16 channel radios.  I priced out new radios from a
local guy and he wants $425 a pop for 16 channel ones(used, no less) and I
spoke to a friend who says the hardware is only about $25 for each radio
so I
figured this was the way to go.  I really could use some help from you
guys.
I'm really not a radio-guy, I'm a scanner-guy myself.  Any help would be
greatly appreciated.  Thanx in advance.

Scott
[e-mail]
[e-mail]


From Unknown Mon Jan 01 01:16:20 1996
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From: [e-mail]
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Speeding up in CW
Date: 28 Dec 1995 03:00:05 GMT
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In <4bpj8j$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Ramon Tristani) w
rites:
>Hello. It has been a long time since I dont practice CW and the 13 WPM
>speed I had has for sure been downgraded to maybe 5 or 7 WPM. I have
>seen some adds about computer programs and audio tapes that repudetly
>help in improving speed. If anybody out there knows about a good,
>proven one, could you please let me know abut it?
>
>Ramon
>KP4GE
>
>
I'd suggest any one or all of the following:
1. Listen to the code practice sessions on W1AW.  The schedule is published
in QST and can also be gotten from one of the ARRL's web pages, the main
one of which is at http://www.arrl.org
2. Download Morse Academy. Since the ARRL distributes it (and in fact uses
it for their exams) it can probably also be gotten from the same WWW source.
3. Super Morse is another good CW program. I know it can be gotten on the
Compu$erve hamnet forum but may also be obtainable from the ARRL.
The ARRL also has a pbbs, the number for which is 860-594-0306.

Hope this helps, and good luck!
73 - Alan Braun NS0B


From Unknown Mon Jan 01 01:16:21 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Drew Durigan)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Hello??? this is KD4DDM  anyone out there?? CQ CQ CQ
Date: 28 Dec 1995 03:33:44 GMT
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>Come the 1st, we'll all ignore him and his ranting,
>so bear with us for just a few more days...

Yeah, sure you will.  It will never happen; you enjoy the attention too
much.

-Drew in Charlotte-
 KF4DDM



From Unknown Mon Jan 01 01:16:22 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Drew Durigan)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Hello??? this is KD4DMM  anyone out there?? CQ CQ CQ
Date: 28 Dec 1995 03:37:56 GMT
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[e-mail] (Christopher K Greenhalgh) wrote:
>
>In article <4br5m8$[e-mail]>, KA9EGW <[e-mail]>
wrote:
>
>>sunspot peak in 89-91?  Not...
>
>Ya know...I thought so too. Probably another one of his lies.


We're still waiting for you to back up your libelous statements against
me with proof, Chris.

 (see previous post if you require additional clarification)

-Drew in Charlotte-
 KF4DDM



From Unknown Mon Jan 01 01:16:23 1996
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Hi Charles,

Give http://holly.cc.uleth.ca/solar a try.  I think that it give you
the info you are looking for.

73 Jim  K7SLI







From Unknown Mon Jan 01 01:16:24 1996
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Date: 28 Dec 1995 03:44:17 GMT
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Burt -- Mac is 8% of the market NOT 5%!

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From Unknown Mon Jan 01 01:16:25 1996
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From: [e-mail]
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: VHF Logging programs
Date: Thu, 28 Dec 1995 03:55:00 GMT
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I need info on any logging program that will list grid squares. Please
e-mail me at: [e-mail]
or reply here.
Thanks
Jay   KQ4MS




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From: [e-mail] (Drew Durigan)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Hello??? this is KD4DMM  anyone out there?? CQ CQ CQ
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>They are very much interested in meeting you.  They would like to know
>where in the universe you might live to have the solar peak when it did.

>More importantly, they would love to share equipmemt notes.  Seems, the
>have very elaborate set-ups to work the work on 5 watts on any bandm,
>especially their antenni.  most of which is home brew.  What type of
>antenna did you use...3 x 3 moonrackers?????

If you needed "3 X 3 moonrackers" to talk skip on 11-meters back in 1989-
91, you're a pretty poor operator, to say the least.  BTW, the antenna is
actually known as a Moonraker.  Better read up on things.
>
>The obvious was that you exagerated just a tad,  the not so is you
either
>a very poor liar or a blithering idiot.
>

More name calling and personal insults.  (*sigh*)


>They also read your original post and the thread was concerning CW, the
>ham bands and your having worked many many countries on 5 watts.  Never
any mention of CB!!

Now why in the world would you think that I might have made the contacts
on CW?  If you've gotten anything from reading this thread, it should be
that I'm not a big CW user.  Duh!
>
>now thgat you have shown us an example of what we might find if they
>eliminate code..in otherwords, someone who proudly can say he broke the
>law, I am getting off the fence and will fight you (no code HF)
wherever
>and whenever I can.

Go for it.  The more the merrier.  And be assured that I will do my part
to tear down your arguments when I see flaws in them.  Just don't expect
me to resort to name calling and personal attacks.  Unlike many others on
here, I prefer to debate the issue.

> You are a poor example of, or should I say a prime
>example of what will happen to this hobby of they continue to "dumb
down"
>the entry fees.

Since you don't make the rules, issue amateur licenses, or have any
authority whatsoever, your personal opinion of me is completely
irrelevant

(additional nonsense deleted)

-Drew in Charlotte-
 KF4DDM




From Unknown Mon Jan 01 01:16:27 1996
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From: [e-mail] (David Lawson)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Dumber than dumb (what hams know about Electronics
Date: 28 Dec 1995 04:06:46 GMT
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In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] says...
>
>
>I bet 99% of those that read this cannot answer this. Of course we will
>never know because those that cannot answer, will not, so we will never
>know.
>
>If a tranistor is driven into saturation and the collector is attached
>to a 1000 ohm resistor with 10 volts Vcc what is Vce?
>
>If the same transistor is cutoff what is Vce?
>
>Will the tranistor get hotter at cutoff, saturation or in the middle of
>its conduction range?
>
>
>Burt Fisher
>K1OIK
>
>--
>*******************************************************************
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>*  Games: TW2002, VGA Planets, 4 Player DOOM, Game Connection     *
>

Not all hams want to be electronic engineers.



From Unknown Mon Jan 01 01:16:28 1996
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From: Gerald Schmitt <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: Hello??? this is KD4DDM  anyone out there?? CQ CQ CQ
Date: 28 Dec 1995 04:50:10 GMT
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[e-mail] (KF2TI) wrote:
>
>
> this is the newsgroupd holiday present to Drew..we say all sorts of stuff
> and let Drew respond. Come the 1st, we'll all ignore him and his ranting,
> so bear with us for just a few more days...
>
>
> The Newsgoop

This is not the newsgroup present, it is the raving of two hopeless
twits. Drew pulls your chains like puppet strings and you keep
making fools of yourselves. I'm in this newsgroup too and you sure
as Hell don't represent me.

The two big ol' Boy Scouts are the worst. I thought the Boy Scouts
taught some sort of Judeo-Christian ethics perhaps you clowns
missed that day. I'm not a Scoutmaster just a lowly merit badge
instructor so my opinion may not count for much but my classes
are better behaved than what I see here from you two. I'm only
sorry to see impressionable young people being influenced by
hate mongers like yourselves. Perhaps the Hitler Youth has a
few openings.


                 Real tired of it too Jerry


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From: [e-mail] (Stephan Rashkin)
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Subject: Re: Hello??? this is KD4DMM  anyone out there?? CQ CQ CQ
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[e-mail] (Drew Durigan) wrote:


>Since you don't make the rules, issue amateur licenses, or have any
>authority whatsoever, your personal opinion of me is completely
>irrelevant

>(additional nonsense deleted)

>-Drew in Charlotte-
> KF4DDM
***************************************************

You're beginning to sound desperate Drew..
I think you're losing it..Don't worry though,
nobody takes you seriously anyway...you've
lost your credibility.

Have a safe and prosperous New Year,

Steve, WA2NHZ





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From: [e-mail] (Gene Gardner)
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Subject: Re: Motorola Microphones - info request
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[e-mail] (Mazalr and Earl Rubin) writes:


'Don't have any direct information, but this might be helpful:
I have an old Motorola System 500 (CB-SSB) which uses a "Mocat TMN6119A"
...all these numbers probably won't help, but there is a good chance that
the Motorola tended to carry over similar design:
This mike has four wires...the push-to-talk switch is a single-pole,
double-throwswitch with its common to ground. When pressed, it grounds the
PTT line from the xmitter (which also happens to be RED), and simultaneously
enables the internal transistor-amp in the mike, by also grounding its
emitter (which is also common with the Red PTT wire). When the switch is
released, it now grounds a wire that enables the Receive function in the
main unit.  I'm betting that if you find that your Push-to-talk switch
connects similarly to three of the wires (including the red PTT and ground
wires you mentioned) the wire to the other side of the switch will similarly
be to enable the Receive function. The remaining fourth wire will be the
audio out from the mike and will have + voltage on it via +12v and the
collector resistor supplying the mike-transistor. If your main unit doesn't
have a coupling capacitor, one would need to insert one in series with this
fourth wire to block the D.C.(correction...would have to be in the main unit)
)
   In my case, the main-supply + had been reduced from +12 to +8.2 (while in
Receive mode). My colors were: Shield = ground,  red= PTT,  black= Rec-enable,
  and white=mike audio out.  'No suprise that colors aren't consistent!

>Motorola makes some nice mobile mics marked "HMN3596A"  (black plastic case,
>three screws in the back and with the metal attachment button). I picked up
>a few in the usual place.

>Does anyone know how to connect these new style microphones to older
>Motorola gear such as Mocom series transceivers?  The mic connectors on the
>Mocom series give you 12 V through a resistor which appears to be the
>collector resistor of the amp which is an integral part of the capsul in the
>"old style" mics.

>The HMN3596A has 4 wires        red     PTT
>                                black   ground
>                                blue    ??
>                                green   ??

>There must be someone out there who still plays around with radios and knows
>about these things -- if so please take a few minutes from philosiphizing
>about gay cw to reply ...  thanks.

>Earl
>4Z4TJ
>Earl and Mazal Rubin  4Z4TJ  Beer Sheva Israel   [e-mail]
>                             Dust Capital of the World

--

Internet, BITNET: [e-mail]


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From: [e-mail] (Charlie Allen)
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Subject: Re: Decoding software
Date: 28 Dec 1995 05:53:33 GMT
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I kind of have the same question.I have an IBM clone and have tryed a few,
 HAMCOM and JVFAX.JVFAX works realy well for Slow-scan,infact it's realy
nice.The decoder is ez to make.
 Note sure about a Mac.

I have read about some softwere called SCW? Any help with finding that?

73 de kb9fdx   Charlie

ps.Last summer when 10m was open to the eastcost I copyed some gies
sending slow-scan around 28,400. I asked them if that was legal to do,
then the band dropped dead.??



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From: [e-mail](michael silva)
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Subject: Re: Dumber than dumb (what hams know about Electronics
Date: 28 Dec 1995 06:46:16 GMT
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In <4bt54m$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (David Lawson)
writes:

<Simple transistor question deleted>

>Not all hams want to be electronic engineers.

No, but all hams should be able to answer the question -- it is *not*
EE-level theory.  If you don't agree, I'd like to hear your reasoning.

73,
Mike, KK6GM




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From: [e-mail] (nunnya)
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Subject: mod for RAD shack 2 mtr mobile
Date: 28 Dec 1995 11:00:34 GMT
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My friend was cheap enough to buy a 5radio shack 212 mobile rig, and
wants the mod if any are available.
thanks
jeff



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From: [e-mail] (Nuno Santos)
Subject: ??? CE0Z  95.09.17  20.59UTC  21 MHZ ???
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Echo of a friends message:

I would like to know who is the QSL Manager of:

        CE0Z,  95.09.17, 20.59 UTC, 21MHZ

Best 73's from CT1ECT


Please reply to [e-mail]



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From: [e-mail] (KB5ELV)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Hello??? this is KD4DMM  anyone out there?? CQ CQ CQ
Date: 28 Dec 1995 12:23:00 -0600
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In article <4bu6j3$[e-mail]> KF2TI writes:
>
>....  .-  ...-  .   .-   ....  .-  .--.  .--.  -..-   ....  ---   .-..  ..
> -..  .-  -..- ...  .-.-.-
Have a happx holidaxs. (?)

>-.  ---   -.-.  ---  -..  -   ---  ..-  -.-.  -.- ... !!!!!!
no codt oucks (????)

I can almost understand getting x and y confused (though it would seem to
me that if you operated much cw, you'd soon get corrected on this), but
the second message is completely incomprehensible to me. Care to
enlighten me?

By the way:
1) This is all very silly, and it's really a shame to see very likely
reasonable people act in such a manner as some of y'all on this group.
From what I've read the last couple days, while Drew seems to have been
somewhat disagreeable, I think that some of his detractors have not been
much better, if better at all.
2) Yes, I am an active cw operator. Yes I operate cw at speeds abofe 20
wpm. Yes, I am in favor of keeping some cw requirement, because the mode
is still usefull. However, beyond the cw requirement, and more important
than the cw requirement, while it's a fine thing (TM) to have fun with
our hobby, should we not also act in a mature and responsible manner? CW
(or lack thereof) don't give someone this (as evidenced by this thread
alone).

3) No, I've not been licensed since the stone age; I'm only 22 and have
been licensed for 8 years. Can't use any of that in arguments against me. :)

But, if you're going to say that knowledge of cw is an important skill
and that those who don't know it aren't of any particular importance, at
*least* get the code right! (Besides, who uses dots and dashes to
represent code anyway?)
--
Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV        | PC-MATTIC
Voice: [phone]        | MAXIMUM Adaptive Technology
Internet: [e-mail]    | Training, Integration, and Consulting
[e-mail]    | Voice: [phone]


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From: [e-mail] (Christopher K Greenhalgh)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Hello??? this is KD4DMM  anyone out there?? CQ CQ CQ
Date: 28 Dec 1995 12:46:02 GMT
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In article <4bt4f2$[e-mail]>,
Drew Durigan <[e-mail]> wrote:

>Just don't expect me to resort to name calling and personal attacks.
>Unlike many others on here, I prefer to debate the issue.
>
>-Drew in Charlotte-
> KF4DDM

Alas, the biggest lie yet! Dru is the KING of insult and name calling!
Dru has always name called and attacked first...just look at any of his
earlier posts...they speak for themselves. I have NEVER called him any
names...and he has called me many. Reason why I had him locked out of
my mailbox, because he DOESNT debate. And if he does, he uses mis-labeled
fact, assumptions, and lies.

What a guy dru is....



--
Christopher K. Greenhalgh, N8WCT
Computer/Electronic Tech. II at The Ohio State University
E-Mail: [e-mail] ([e-mail])
Radio : n8wct@w8cqk.#cmh.oh.usa.noam


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From: Ed Ellers <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Dumber than dumb (what hams know about Electronics
Date: Thu, 28 DEC 95 13:15:58 -0500
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Burt Fisher <[e-mail]> writes:

>To answer the question I posed is a minimum any ham RADIO
>licensee should be able to answer. There are still some technical
>requirements.

First of all, it's not necessary to have that level of knowledge of circuitry
to effectively use the spectrum.  A more appropriate question would have to do
with, for example, what sort of stage functions are required in an SSB
transmitter, or perhaps how much bandwidth is occupied by an FM voice signal
given the audio bandwidth and deviation used.

Even if this question was at an appropriate level, it would still be too
limiting because it deals with one type of device for which there are
alternatives (namely tubes).


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Subject: Re: no-code=no-brain
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newkirk writes

>beginning to think that people are remembering the older license manuals
>that included sections about being able to draw a colpitts or hartley
oscillator
>rather than the test itself (shoulda kept them books...)

possibly...


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From: [e-mail] (Joe Mack)
Subject: Re: Dumber than dumb (what hams know about Electronics
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In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] writes:
>
>I bet 99% of those that read this cannot answer this. Of course we will
>never know because those that cannot answer, will not, so we will never
>know.
>If a tranistor is driven into saturation and the collector is attached
>to a 1000 ohm resistor with 10 volts Vcc what is Vce?

Si or Ge?

>If the same transistor is cutoff what is Vce?
>Will the tranistor get hotter at cutoff, saturation or in the middle of
>its conduction range?
>
>Burt Fisher
>K1OIK


        I agree that many people cannot answer these questions and it's
a great tragedy.

        However most hams who try to learn these things do so on
their own, without teachers who have had formal training in these
subjects and when confronted with something they don't understand
have only themselves and high school algebra to fall back on.
It's no wonder that most ham's electronic understanding is riddled with
anecdotes and misunderstanding. It's a miracle that hams understand
anything at all.

        As well as having a steep learning curve on the theoretical
side, the entry costs to build equipment both in time and facilities
are enormous. Ham radio is difficult for children to take up
unless they have sympathetic and financially supportive parents and who
have a house where it's possible for junior to have a workbench where a
project that will take a long time can be done. It's difficult for a 12yr
old to build much that would be fun with just a soldering iron and a
voltmeter. It is even more difficult if father is perplexed about the
whole matter and mother is hysterical that the kid is going to electrocute
himself or even worse ruin the carpet with the soldering iron.

        As adults, paying mortgages and bringing up kids, it's also hard to
take the time or money to build stuff. If you go to VHF conferences in
this country, you'll find a very active group of builders and experimenters
from the ham radio community. You'll also notice that the average age is
about 50 years. A possible reason for this is that VHF equipement is not
as easily available at ham fests and that it is a lot more expensive than
HF equipment and that only the older and more financially established
people can afford it. The same was true 30yrs ago when I first started
going to these type of meetings, so it's not a matter of this being a
different era.

        The problems of being a real amateur amateur were brought home
to me when I joined up with a ham who was an electronic designer of RF
equipment to do some hamming. He already knew the answers to questions
that I barely understood were relevent. I did more hamming in 2 years with
him than I'd done in the previous 20yrs.

        By contrast the entry price for other activities which take a
similar amount of time is much lower. Anyone can start working on a
car for the price of an oil filter wrench and work up from there. Similarly
gardening only requires a few $ for a bucket of bulbs and 6 months
later you have garden full of lovely tulips. Why would anyone take up
ham radio when you can get rewards so much more easily with other
well accepted hobbies? - you'd have to be half cracked.

        So I agree the situation is deplorable, but many people get a lot
of pleasure out of it despite their ignorance. The local town is glad
of our local ham club's participation in the Festival/Parade every
year and the local high school is glad of our participation in the
annual athletic day and I'm certainly glad to go along and push the
mike button on my HT to find out where the guy with the stop watch
has gone.

        So thanks for pointing out the problem. It definitely
needs to be fixed up and I'm willing to help you on this.
What suggestions do you have?


        Joe Mack
        NA3T EME BD, FM19
        [e-mail]




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From: [e-mail](Dale Eagar )
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Subject: Re: Hay Burt Give them Something hard
Date: 28 Dec 1995 15:44:34 GMT
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In <[e-mail]> [e-mail]
(Danny Ozbirn) writes:
>
>-- [ From: Danny Ozbirn * EMC.Ver #2.3 ] --
>
>
>>Date: Tue, 26 Dec 95 14:05:42 EST
>>From: [e-mail]
>>Subject: Dumber than dumb (what hams know about Electronics
>
>>I bet 99% of those that read this cannot answer this. Of course we
will never
>know because those >that cannot answer, will not, so we will never
know.
>
>>If a tranistor is driven into saturation and the collector is
attached to a
>1000 ohm resistor with 10 >volts Vcc what is Vce?
>
>>If the same transistor is cutoff what is Vce?
>
>>Will the tranistor get hotter at cutoff, saturation or in the middle
of its
>conduction range?
>
>
>>Burt Fisher
>>K1OIK
>
>VCE At Cutoff  10V
>
>VCE AT saturation  0V or near about it
>
>at saturation the transistor will only be drawing 10Ma so it wont get
very hot
>either time but saturation
>will make it the warmest  and it will stay cool at cutoff   and if you
bias it
>half way it might make a good class A Amplifier
>
>Don't complicate there lives up too much Burt
>
>73  Dan WB5HKK
>
>ps I guess that makes me a 1%

Yeah Burt, but what is the real Ic when in sat? , cutoff?

Happy new one, Dale N6RPX



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From: [e-mail] (Stan Huntting)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.equipment
Subject: Re: Radio-TNC Cable Wiring Diagrams at Web Site
Date: 28 Dec 1995 15:54:52 GMT
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In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail]

says...

>Radio to TNC wiring diagrams and other information about digital
>modes can be found at the following site:

>Wiring Index URL: http://www.idir.net/~medcalf/ztx/wire

>The site also contains the following articles:

>Site URL: http://www.idir.net/~medcalf/ztx/

Wow! Is this ever a gem! If all new TNC users would check out this web page
before warming up the soldering iron there would be far fewer unused TNCs
gathering dust in the shacks of frustrated hams. And Gloria has published a
marvelous book that reveals all the mysteries of TNCs. A must-read for anyone
who wants to go beyond "appliance operating" with digital radio.

73 es gud dx in '96.

Stan
--
Stan Huntting,    KF0IA
Postal Address:   4655 Pleasant Ridge Rd.,
                  Boulder, CO 80301-1731, USA
email:            [e-mail]
KaWin Home Page:  http://www.mutadv.com/kawin/
KaWin FTP Site:   ftp.csn.net in the directory /kawin



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From: [e-mail] (Christopher K Greenhalgh)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Hello??? this is KD4DMM  anyone out there?? CQ CQ CQ
Date: 28 Dec 1995 16:54:52 GMT
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In article <4bu6j3$[e-mail]>, KF2TI <[e-mail]> wrote:
>In article <4bt4f2$[e-mail]>, [e-mail]
>(Drew Durigan) writes:
>
>>>They are very much interested in meeting you.  They would like to know
>>>where in the universe you might live to have the solar peak when it did.
>
>WELL,  where's your response for this???

Dru only responds to 'certain' posts...only the ones he can lie out of, or
otherwise change the subject.

Notice how he 'demands' that others prove their statements...then doesnt
back-up his own words. (has avoided his claimed 'sun spot peak cycle' in
89-91)

>>Now why in the world would you think that I might have made the contacts
>>on CW?  If you've gotten anything from reading this thread, it should be
>>that I'm not a big CW user.  Duh!

>>Just don't expect me to resort to name calling and personal attacks.
>>Unlike many others on
>>here, I prefer to debate the issue.

Notice how dru insults someone (duh!), then claims hes an 'angel'...hilarious.

73 all.



--
Christopher K. Greenhalgh, N8WCT
Computer/Electronic Tech. II at The Ohio State University
E-Mail: [e-mail] ([e-mail])
Radio : n8wct@w8cqk.#cmh.oh.usa.noam


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SB DX @ ARL $ARLD066
ARLD066 DX news

ZCZC AE42
QST de W1AW
DX Bulletin 66  ARLD066
From ARRL Headquarters
Newington CT  December 28, 1995
To all radio amateurs

SB DX ARL ARLD066
ARLD066 DX news

This week's bulletin was made possible with info provided by Tedd,
KB8NW, the OPDX Bulletin, QRZ DX, Dick, K7BTW, Laci, W1PL, The DXNS,
Derek, KC4ELO, the Yankee Clipper Contest Club PacketCluster network
and Contest Corral from QST.  Thanks to all.

KUWAIT, 9K2.  Derek, KC4ELO, reports that Tom, 9K2ZC, and his wife
Donna, 9K2YY, will be leaving Kuwait sometime in March of 1996.
They both can be found between 14195 and 14220 kHz usually around
1500 to 1600z during this time of year.  QSL Manager KC4ELO states
he will start doing bureau cards when they are out of Kuwait.  He
plans to keep their logs open until the end of 1996.  QSL to KC4ELO,
Raymond H. McClure, 674 Crestlyn Drive, North Augusta, SC 29841.

WESTERN MALAYSIA, 9M2. Tex, 9M2TO, is currently active from Penang
Island, IOTA AS-015 located in the Penang State Group.  He will be
looking for stateside stations on 17, 30, 40 and 80 meters with no
times given.  QSL to Tex Izumo, Bukit Dumbar Apt. 9-4, 97 Jalan
Thomas 11700, Gelugor, Penang, Malaysia or via the bureau to his
home call, JA0DMV, through JARL.

BANGLADESH, S21.  Andy, S21YE, will be active for one more year on
all bands, SSB only.  S21B is also active for CW QSOs.  Check 14226
kHz around 0030z.  QSL via G0EHX.

MADAGASCAR, 5R.  Gerard, F2JD, will be returning to France before
heading to 5R-land.  He plans to stay in 5R-land for at least 6
months, beginning in January.  He will try to be active on all
bands.

MONACO, 3A.  Luc, I1YRL, will be operating from here as 3A/I1YRL
during January, February and March.  He will also be active from
Geneva as 4U1ITU during this time period.  QSL via I1YRL.

SOUTH ORKNEY ISLANDS, LU.  LU6Z has been very active on 40 meter CW
from 0200 to 0500z.  QSL via LU6EF.

COMOROS, D6.  The DXNS reports that Michel, FR5HG, is on an
assignment here and is waiting for a D68 callsign.

SANTA CATALINA ISLAND, HK0.  Wolfgang, DF4UW, plans to be active
from this small island near Providencia, NA-049, from January 9 to
24.  The call will be HK0/DF4UW.  QSL via his home call.

GUATEMALA, TG.  Manfred, TG9IKE, reports that David, K4TT, will be
active as TG9IDK from January 1 to 10.  He will work all bands from
10 to 40 meters, mostly CW, 5 up from the edge of the band, as
propagation allows.  QSLs go to K4TT's call book address.

INDIA, VU.  Bernhard, DL2GAC, will be active as VU2BMS during the
month of January.  Activity will be mainly on 80 and 40 meters
operating SSB and Pactor.  QSL via CBA.

CAYMAN ISLANDS, ZF.  Al, W4RIM, will be operating as ZF2ON from
Grand Cayman Island between December 26 and January 1.  He plans to
operate mostly CW on 80, 40, 30 and 20 meters at the low end of
band.  QSL via KN4F.

QSL NOTE.  4X6FU is not the QSL manager for 4L1FL.  Send QSLs for
this one to 4X6UF.

SPECIAL EVENT STATION.  Hungary will celebrate its 1100th birthday
with special event operations from 0001z January 1 until 2400z
December 31.  Look for participants with HA1 to HA0 or HG1 to HG0
prefixes.
NNNN
/EX


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From: [e-mail] (Mazalr and Earl Rubin)
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Subject: Seychelles
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The XYL and I are going on vacation to the Seychelles:
Anyone know if there is a 2m repeater on Mahe Island, Seychelles?  I tried
looking up S7 calls in the QRZ.com data-base but didn't succeed -- is it
possible to use a wildcard in the search?  It didn't seem to like *'s or ?'s.

Thanks

Earl
4Z4TJ

Earl and Mazal Rubin  4Z4TJ  Beer Sheva Israel   [e-mail]
                             Dust Capital of the World



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From: [e-mail] (Paul W Schleck KD3FU)
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Subject: Re: The Origin of "HAM" (complete article)
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In <[e-mail]> Stephan M. Anderman <[e-mail]> w
rites:

>One problem...
>     There is NOTHING in the Congressional Record to support this "story".  H
as
>anyone else done any research into this?  Apparently, the original writer nev
er
>did, and this is another popular fable that has no basis in fact.


Something also to consider that even if the Congressional Record could
be shown to contain something on this subject, it still may not have
happened.  Before reforms were enacted in this century, rules of
Congress were lax enough that just about anything could be read by a
member into the record whether it was actually said on the floor of
Congress or not.

The potential for abuse is obvious, as many members of Congress could
appease constituents and special interests by claiming to have made an
impassioned plea for their cause on the floor and pointed to "the
record" as proof.  This led to many obviously ridiculous matters "of
record," such as speeches made by members days or weeks after they
boarded a plane or boat which crashed or sank, killing them.

Here is some more realistic and factual information about the origin of
"ham."  This will probably be put into the FAQ as soon as the volunteers
currently working on resurrecting it are ready.  Hopefully the return of
the FAQ document (and its timely maintenance) will help dispel some of
the rumors and folklore that seem to reappear on this newsgroup from
time to time.

Suggested (and mostly wrong) origins of the word HAM:

The acronym "Home Amateur Mechanic" or...

from the Cockney pronunciation of "L'amateur" or...

the initials of the founder of the American Radio Relay League, Hiram
Maxim, W1AW (his actual middle name being Percy apparently
notwithstanding) or...

from the call letters of one of the first amateur stations at Harvard,
H.A.M. (please, no flames from W1XM at MIT)

Dale Mosby, N7PEX, offers the explanation that HAM must stand for "Hardly
Any Money," considering the investment one could make in the hobby.

Knowledgeable individuals from the American Radio Relay League (ARRL),
and other radio historians, seem to agree that the terms "Ham" and "Lid"
(an inept operator) both originated with landline telegraphy.  A "Ham"
was a show-off and a "Lid" was a telegraph operator so inexperienced, he
had to use a pot or can lid to rest his telegraph sounder on to properly
copy the code.

As an interesting historical footnote, early telegraph operators may
have been the first to experience the infamous curse of our
communications age, Repetitive Stress (or "Carpal Tunnel") Syndrome
(called "Glass Arm" in those days, which encouraged the invention of the
semi-automatic or "bug" key).

(Larry E. McDonald, N6ZMB, wrote to point out another plausible origin,
which doesn't necessarily contradict the ARRL version.  The term "ham"
may have been derived from "ham-fisted" or "ham-handed" to describe poor
telegraph operators who were hired from the ranks of radio operators.
Or maybe "ham-fisted" and "ham-handed" are derived from "ham."  Who
knows?)

--
73, Paul W. Schleck, KD3FU
[e-mail]
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> Date: 28 Dec 1995 15:07:24 GMTs
> From: [e-mail] (Bill Newkirk)
> Subject: (none)
>
> depends on the program being used, doesn't it? f'instance wordperfect has a
> implied way of matching case. if he's just using windoze write, they'll work
.
>
> Bill Newkirk WB9IVR                  The Space Coast Amateur Technical Group
> Melbourne, FL                       duty now for the future of amateur radio
> Lombardi's 1st Law of Business:
> Companies succeed in spite of their best effort.  If they succeed at all.
Whoops, ur write Bill, tnx for the correction.  Sri I left out that part.
Yes it is in Win-doze.........old Win-doze that is.  Not sure what 95
does?   Probably have to call the programmer for a re-fit.
> Date: Thu, 28 Dec 1995 12:13:08 GMT

Scott N0XZY
"sig under construction, please use sig of choice in the interim"




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From: [e-mail](michael silva)
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Subject: Re: Dumber than dumb (what hams know about Electronics
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In <[e-mail]> Ed Ellers <[e-mail]>
writes:
>
>Burt Fisher <[e-mail]> writes:
>
>>To answer the question I posed is a minimum any ham RADIO
>>licensee should be able to answer. There are still some technical
>>requirements.
>
>First of all, it's not necessary to have that level of knowledge of
>circuitry to effectively use the spectrum.

The discussion is not about effective use of the spectrum, it's about
relevant requirements for licensing in one particular service, the
amateur radio service.

>Even if this question was at an appropriate level, it would still be
>too limiting because it deals with one type of device for which there
>are alternatives (namely tubes).

The concepts of cutoff and saturation (or more generically full-on and
full-off) apply to any device capable of switching action.  The
dissipation question (which is also a load-line question) applies to
any device that can be biased in the active region.  Some car engines
run on propane, but that doesn't mean questions about gasoline engines
in mechanics school are "too limiting".

73,
Mike, KK6GM




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From: [e-mail] (Victor L. GaleaSr.)
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I am new on packet and trying to figure how to post a bulletin to go to
hams in a european country, specifically Malta.  These must be listed
somewhere, but I have not yet been able to locate the country codes.
Thanks for any assistance.  Best 73's and Happy New Year.

--
Victor Galea  KB8RVU  Flint, MI


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From: [e-mail] (Christopher K Greenhalgh)
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Subject: Re: David Letterman's Callsign
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In article <4buir4$[e-mail]>, Me <[e-mail]> wrote:

>   What is David Letterman's callsign?
>
>                                       KC8AGT

There is a David A. Letterman of Danville, PA, KE3NJ and a
Robert D. Letterman of Salinas, CA, N6UER. These appear to
be the only possible listings for him if he is a ham, and useing
his stage name.

I never even heard he was one...where did you hear?

Happy holidays, & 73.



--
Christopher K. Greenhalgh, N8WCT
Computer/Electronic Tech. II at The Ohio State University
E-Mail: [e-mail] ([e-mail])
Radio : n8wct@w8cqk.#cmh.oh.usa.noam


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From: [e-mail] (Drew Durigan)
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Subject: Re: Hello??? this is KD4DMM  anyone out there?? CQ CQ CQ
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[e-mail] (Christopher K Greenhalgh) wrote:

(lots of spewage as usual, but failed to back up his statements)


Last call, Chris.  I have repeatedly asked for you to back up your
statements against me, of which you claim to have proof.  We're all
waiting.  Although your buddies on here would never call attention to the
fact that you have been ignoring my request, I'm sure that they too would
like to see your "evidence."

Put up or shut up.  Enough said.

-Drew in Charlotte-
 KF4DDM



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From: [e-mail] (Jim Lowman)
Subject: Re: When was I first licensed?
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Doug Faunt N6TQS [phone] ([e-mail]) wrote:
: In my case, I remembered my old Novice callsign from the late sixties,
: and the people at QCWA HQ were able to confirm that I was in the
: Callbook then, therefore I qualified for QCWA.  It seemed like an
: interesting idea at the time.

I did the same thing, sort of.  I contacted Jim at QCWA Headquarters via
their Web page, and he located the first year I was licensed, 1965, as a
novice, WN8RWL, and confirmed my eligibility for QCWA, which I subsequently
joined.

Sorry to hear that Gary or the others had to spend any money to find this
info.  Not nkowing the year one was first licensed is fairly common,
especially if one has been inactive for several years in the interim.  As
close as I could determine, it was 1965 or 1966, during my senior year in
high school.

Jim

[e-mail]  |   Jim Lowman    * KF6CR*    San Bernardino, CA
Systems Analyst     |   San Bernardino City Unified School District
[phone] (O)  |   Unix:  "It isn't supposed to be easy...If it
[phone] (FAX)|   was, everyone would be doing it."  -Unknown-


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From: [e-mail] (Dave Santoro)
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Subject: Re: David Letterman's Callsign
Date: Thu, 28 Dec 1995 20:08:34 GMT
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[e-mail] (Me) wrote:

>
>   What is David Letterman's callsign?
>
>
>
>                                       KC8AGT
>

I am pretty sure that he is very into shortwave listening, but not a
licensed ham. (Someone please correct me if I'm wrong.)

I have gathered this from occaisional references on the show.

73, Dave

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  David H. Santoro       |   [e-mail]    |  Amateur Radio
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JRP Securities, Inc.     |    [e-mail]        |     N2VYP
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                         *<Standard Disclaimers Apply>*



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From: [e-mail] (Clay Irving)
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Subject: Re: Looking for VHF/UHF contest logger.
Date: 28 Dec 1995 20:16:30 -0500
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In <4bsea5$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Tedd Doda) writes:

>Greeting people. With the VHF and up contest coming up in a few weeks,
>I was wondering if anyone has any suggestions for a logging program?
>I *mostly* run OS/2, but have Windows (argh!) in the computer somewhere.
>That way, I can run DOS,OS/2, or Windows. If you have a favorite program,
>let me know where to find it (any internet utilities/www/ftp, etc) and
>what you like about it.

Take a peek at the Amateur Radio Reference, http://www.panix.com/clay/ham/
Look in the Supplier/Products and FTP Sites sections.

--
 See the happy moron,
 He doesn't give a damn,           Clay Irving, N2VKG ([e-mail])
 I wish I were a moron,            http://www.panix.com/clay
 My God! perhaps I am!


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Subject: Where has all my post gone?  Ref January Classes
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          STUDY CLASSES FOR AMATEUR RADIO LICENSE!
                  RICHMOND, VIRGINIA, U.S.A.

   To enjoy the fascinating hobby of HAM RADIO, You must
   be licensed by the Federal Communications Commission.
   You are invited to enroll in a 10-week course of
   study for the following license:

          ***** Novice & NO-Code Technician *****

                ***** Technician Plus *****

                    ***** General *****

                  Registration fee $10.00

           Textbook used is "NOW YOU'RE TALKING"

     Registration/Orientation Thursday, January 11, 1996
      Schedule: Tuesday & Thursday 7:00 P.M. - 9:00 P.M.

                           Place:
  Westhampton School  5800 Patterson Ave. (at Libby Ave.)
                 For more information,call:

              Mike Ratcliff,  KC4AHE, (804)-272-7167
              Warren Boyden,  KB4STL, (804)-233-3170
              Raymon Roberts, W4MYI,  (804)-740-5850

-------------------------------------------------------

                      Sponsored by the
                RICHMOND AMATEUR RADIO CLUB
          Club meetings 8:P.M. Every SECOND Friday
               Bon Air United Methodist Church
                      1645 Buford Road
                      VISITORS WELCOME

--

(S)lower (T)han (L)ight



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From: [e-mail] (Stephan Rashkin)
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Gerald Schmitt <[e-mail]> wrote:



>The two big ol' Boy Scouts are the worst. I thought the Boy Scouts
>taught some sort of Judeo-Christian ethics perhaps you clowns
>missed that day. I'm not a Scoutmaster just a lowly merit badge
>instructor so my opinion may not count for much but my classes
>are better behaved than what I see here from you two. I'm only
>sorry to see impressionable young people being influenced by
>hate mongers like yourselves. Perhaps the Hitler Youth has a
>few openings.


>                 Real tired of it too Jerry

Ha Ha Ha!!
You don't have one tenth the worth of Drew..Go help develop another
weapon and kill a few million more people! If you're real tired of it
go spin the dial..

Steve, Wa2NHZ




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bersmith.com!news.kei.com!nntp.coast.net!howland.reston.ans.net!swrinde!cs.ute
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From: [e-mail] (Drew Durigan)
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Subject: Re: LARC: Gay Ham Club Activities
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>>>The Lambda Amateur Radio Club (LARC), a U.S.-based international
>>>club for G/L/B/T ham radio operators...

For more information, call their toll-free membership hotline.

1-800-HAM-FAGS


-Drew in Charlotte-
 KF4DDM



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From: [e-mail] (Clifton T. Sharp)
Subject: Re: Dumber than dumb (what hams know about Electronics
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In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] says...
>I bet 99% of those that read this cannot answer this. Of course we will
>never know because those that cannot answer, will not, so we will never
>know.

I cannot answer, but you now know this.

I cannot answer because you didn't give enough information.

>If a tranistor is driven into saturation and the collector is attached
>to a 1000 ohm resistor with 10 volts Vcc what is Vce?

Where is the emitter attached?

>If the same transistor is cutoff what is Vce?

Where is the emitter attached?

>Will the tranistor get hotter at cutoff, saturation or in the middle of
>its conduction range?

Where is the emitter attached?

Presuming the emitter is attached to ground in each circuit, the answers
are Vcesat for the particular transistor for as long as it can withstand
(10 - Vcesat) milliamps, Vcc and middle of the range for as long as it
doesn't self-destruct from heat.

--
   Cliff Sharp                  There are days when no matter which
     WA9PDM                      way you spit, it's upwind.
  [e-mail]       --The First Law of Reality


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From: [e-mail] (CB Smith)
Subject: Wind up Radio from ZS land ?
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I have heard of a radio that is powered by a windup device.
                                             ^^^^^^
It is for the AM Broadcast band and is being made in South Africa.
Has anyone got any details on this device. It does have potential.

Manufacturer?
Cost?
Details?

73 de Brian ve3ex
[e-mail]




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From: [e-mail].([e-mail] ([e-mail] (roman)
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From: [e-mail] (Roman Robles)
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Subject: Re: Austin Amateur Radio Suppy
Date: 29 Dec 1995 07:04:57 GMT
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sc:22385

Just to add my 2 cents worth...

We live in Austin.  I have bought 3 HTs from Austin Amateur Radio
Supply as well as the usual fare of cables/coax/connectors/books.
My experience has been that one of their staff members is
friendly and the others are 'in business'.

My wife surprised me this Christmas with a *pair* of Cushcraft
A270-10S beams.  She bought them at AARS.  She also told me that
she never wants to go there or let me spend another dollar there
again because no one was WILLING to help her make her selection
in any way.  She is not a ham, but she is not a dummy either (she
has a Master's in Applied Math...)-She just didn't know enough
to make an informed selection.  She DID know that I wanted to
work satellites on 2m and 70cm and that I wanted a pair of beams
for circularly polarized signals.

It would seem good business to at least make suggestions
or talk about the options available.  They didn't even tell her
which manufacturers or models would meet her stated needs.  They
told her that she would have to give them a part number before
they could "help".  She was in person in the store twice!  They
didn't even offer her a catalog to help.

These guys are in a business which 'feeds' on a hobby - pure
and simple. An eager to assist - let's have fun - type of
attitude would seem to be a good approach.  Maybe they need
competition closer than Oklahoma/Ohio/etc.

...for what it's worth...

73s and happy shopping
roman
Roman Robles KI5XZ
Austin, TX




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From: [e-mail] (DAVE M . SCHERTZER)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: $$ Buyers B E W A R E \\ VE7-EXG $$ !!!
Date: 29 Dec 1995 02:01:18 GMT
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When buying New/Used equip from Frank be sure you
perform an operational check on the equip. Be sure
and verify that ALL of the options that he says are
"installed" are actually in the equip in question.

I bought a Icom V68 HT in which he told me the CTCSS
tone board was installed. I took his word as a fellow
ham. To my dismay, I later discovered that NO CTCSS was
installed!!!

When I contacted Frank he was very rude and told me that I
should have known better and that CTCSS was an option, not
standard. I knew that it was an option and specifically
asked if it was installed as the radio was useless to me
without the option. He told me it was installed!!!

Franks told me that If I wanted any refund that  would have
meet him in Burnaby BC, a 6hr drive from my location. Not much
of a solution, eh?

So,take this into consideration if you are thinking about making
a purchase from Frank.


 de  VE7-LFA/W7






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From: [e-mail] (Keith Knipschild - LI ,N.Y )
Subject: Re: David Letterman's Callsign ?
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>   What is David Letterman's callsign?

>                                        KC8AGT


He's not a HAM..Just a SWL

Keith  N2NJS

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From: [e-mail] (Drew Durigan)
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Subject: Re: LARC: Gay Ham Club Activities
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>>>The Lambda Amateur Radio Club (LARC), a U.S.-based international
>>>club for G/L/B/T ham radio operators...

For more information, call their toll-free membership hotline.

1-800-HAM-FAGS


-Drew in Charlotte-
 KF4DDM



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From: [e-mail] (Eugene Kang)
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Subject: Bringing HTs into Britain
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Will I run into any problems if I brought two HTs from the US into
Britain during a holiday?

They are VHF Motorolas.


thanks



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From: [e-mail] (Roman Robles)
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Subject: Re: Austin Amateur Radio Suppy
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Just to add my 2 cents worth...

We live in Austin.  I have bought 3 HTs from Austin Amateur Radio
Supply as well as the usual fare of cables/coax/connectors/books.
My experience has been that one of their staff members is
friendly and the others are 'in business'.

My wife surprised me this Christmas with a *pair* of Cushcraft
A270-10S beams.  She bought them at AARS.  She also told me that
she never wants to go there or let me spend another dollar there
again because no one was WILLING to help her make her selection
in any way.  She is not a ham, but she is not a dummy either (she
has a Master's in Applied Math...)-She just didn't know enough
to make an informed selection.  She DID know that I wanted to
work satellites on 2m and 70cm and that I wanted a pair of beams
for circularly polarized signals.

It would seem good business to at least make suggestions
or talk about the options available.  They didn't even tell her
which manufacturers or models would meet her stated needs.  They
told her that she would have to give them a part number before
they could "help".  She was in person in the store twice!  They
didn't even offer her a catalog to help.

These guys are in a business which 'feeds' on a hobby - pure
and simple. An eager to assist - let's have fun - type of
attitude would seem to be a good approach.  Maybe they need
competition closer than Oklahoma/Ohio/etc.

...for what it's worth...

73s and happy shopping
roman
Roman Robles KI5XZ
Austin, TX




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unsubscribe


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Burt Fisher ([e-mail]) wrote:

: 3. In this hobby I am indeed twisted.
: 4. The worst insult anyone can call me is a "typical ham."

Burt, I doubt anyone would disagree with either point.

-andy




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From: [e-mail] (Drew McGhee)
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Subject: Re: David Letterman's Callsign
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In article <4butg0$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Dave Sant
oro) writes:
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>From: [e-mail] (Dave Santoro)
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Greetings to the group,

I believe David Letterman is an avid shortwave listener. His former director,
sorry can't think of his name (not 'Morty' that's his producer), is also a
shortwave fan. There was an article in QST a while back about the radios that
his director has and the one he bought for Letterman fo Christmas.

Drew R. McGhee, KA3EJV
Altoona, PA
[e-mail]


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From: Paul Moller <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: The Origin of "HAM" (complete article)
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>
> As an interesting historical footnote, early telegraph operators may
> have been the first to experience the infamous curse of our
> communications age, Repetitive Stress (or "Carpal Tunnel") Syndrome
> (called "Glass Arm" in those days, which encouraged the invention of the
> semi-automatic or "bug" key).
>

And if you visit the Thomas Edison museum in Florida you will learn that
good old Edison started his career as a telegraph operator who then
became frustrated with the slow speed and "invented" the iambic keyer.
Then due to loss of hearing was forced into his second biggest money
maker, a cement supplier for the Panama canal project.


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From: aL Masters <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: 10 meters dead? NOT!
Date: 29 Dec 1995 14:06:42 GMT
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i was wondering about 10m...why so quite. i'm not very active, and have
recently started listening to 10m without hearing a sound...what gives???
it seems to me that IT IS dead as a doornail. thanks...aL Masters - Dallas
Tx - N5UBZ.



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From: [e-mail](J. Duffy Beischel)
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Subject: Re: LARC: Gay Ham Club Activities
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In <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (James E.
Bromley) writes:
>
>In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail]
writes:
>
>
>>The Lambda Amateur Radio Club (LARC), a U.S.-based international
>>club for G/L/B/T ham radio operators...
>
>What!  No W/K/N/A ham radio operators?
>
>Oh... nevermind.
>
>
Or maybe it is supposed to be G/B/L/T for Good Bacon Lettuce and
Tomato?

By the way, does anyone know of any ham organizations that are strictly
for heterosexual ham radio operators?  I guess if THEY have to have
THEIR own organization then we hetero's should have OUR own
organization.  Any homosexual hams that attack this concept will be
labeled as HETEROPHOBES.



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From: [e-mail] (A. Stockmal)
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Subject: Anyone know of a DX Mailing List?
Date: 29 Dec 1995 17:13:52 GMT
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Hello,
        I have been talking with a friend and he mentioned a DX mailing
list.  Does this actually exist?  If so what is the address?
                        Tnx in advance...
                                Phil, N1TMG
************************************************************************
    The Stockmal [e-mail]
                 Middle Atlantic District Labs - MAD Labs
               IT'S NOT THAT IT DOESN'T WORK AS A COMPUTER,
                  IT JUST WORKS BETTER AS A PAPERWEIGHT
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From: [e-mail] (Larry AD3Y)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Dumber than dumb (what hams know about
Date: 29 Dec 1995 18:11:00 GMT
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>If a tranistor is driven into saturation and the collector is attached
>to a 1000 ohm resistor with 10 volts Vcc what is Vce?

Cliff Sharp wrote:

>Where is the emitter attached?

Good question!

Also, is there a resistor attached between the emitter
and it's bias voltage? If so, there would be an additional
voltage drop there.

Larry - AD3Y


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From: [e-mail] (Stephan Rashkin)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Hello??? this is KD4DMM  anyone out there?? CQ CQ CQ
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[e-mail] (Stephan Rashkin) wrote:

>Gerald Schmitt <[e-mail]> wrote:

>>well that I never said I had classes in Hitler Youth but rather
>>suggested that hate mongers like yourself and Chris might want
>>to find such a group. With your attitudes I felt it would be a
>>better place for you to work with young people than in the
>>Boy Scouts. Perhaps you don't like being refer to as a hate
>>monger well then if the sheet don't fit don't wear it.

>>       Hope to see you on the slopes, wear your call hat

>>                   Jerry


>Hey are you using a government (sponsored) internet account to
>broadcast your stupidity?  We are paying taxes for your lame
>posts...

>Either get your own account or stop wasting taxpayers money..
>Gerald Schmitt can be also be contacted at [e-mail]
>or 505-667-3923 to discuss his abuse of government facilities
>or you can contact his supervisor directly..

Typo corrected "sponsored" by myself..on 12/29

Steve, Wa2NHZ




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Drew Durigan ([e-mail]) wrote:

: For more information, call their toll-free membership hotline.

: 1-800-HAM-FAGS

: -Drew in Charlotte-
:  KF4DDM

What an azzh*le...  Drew, you frankly disgust me.

--Leigh Marrin/KM6JE in Santa Barbara.



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From: [e-mail] (Mark D. Fergus)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Dumber than dumb (what hams know about Electronics
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In article <4buch7$[e-mail]> [e-mail]   (Bill Newkirk) writes

>In <4bt54m$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (David Lawson) writ
es:
>>In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] says...
>>>If a tranistor is driven into saturation and the collector is attached
>transistor...(student gets point for finding prof's spelling error!)

Well, I guess I get extra credit.  The first "transistor" is missing an "s"
after the n.  But to be honest, I don't know the answer to the original
question... Haven't gotten that far into EE at Ohio State.  Just starting my
second quarter next week.

Happy New Year to all, including you, Burt!

73's de N8VJF

Mark D. Fergus
[e-mail]





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Date: Fri, 29 Dec 95 20:05:46 PST
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From: [e-mail]
Subject: RB411 Relay Stations Part 2/2

To:   Emergency Management Agencies via Amateur Radio
Info: Communications Volunteers in Government Service
Info: Amateurs U.S. (@usa:Information), ACS, CAP, MARS, RACES
By:   Auxiliary Communications Service (ACS), the volunteer
      communications reserve of the State of California
      Governor's Office of Emergency Services

Bulletin 411  OPS-Aspects Relay stations 2/2  release 1/1/96

Query: What factors do you look for in a relay station?

Answer: a mix of operational, technical and managerial
abilities, much as one would look for in a net control
station operator for high frequency operations.

Has the operator demonstrated good practices, such as these:
Shown an ability to handle multiple simultaneous calls without
confusion? Use staccato traffic, i.e., rapid fire cryptic words
that cut through noise and interference? Or is the person 'long
winded'? Have tone hearing ability; i.e., to recognize voices?
Is there a 'command voice'; and can it be used without being
heavy handed? What kind of 'presence' does the operator have?

Is there experience in emergency response? Is there dedication
to the level of service required for a relay station? Can the
operator develop assistants to provide relief and backup help
at his/her location? Are there physical or mental restraints
that can affect the operator? (consideration is required as
operation hours can be unexpected and extensive).

A relay station must be capable of a quick frequency change when
conditions warrant that action at the request of the NCS. This
may be to a different frequency on the same band or a change to
another band, such as to 160 meters from 80, or to 80 from 40, etc.

A relay station may need multiple antennas, emergency power source
and several radios, as well as fax, packet, and other systems, as
well as a pager.

Of course, one could say that in an emergency any station could
be a relay station. However, the above aspects are worth
considering when selecting a relay station. Not all of the
factors will be found in one operator, but at least have them in
mind when you make a selection.

[This two-part series was edited from an article originated by
Howard Shepherd, W6US, Manager McArthur Relay, Alternate NCS,
California Emergency Services Net, State of California Auxiliary
Communications Service.]
EOM

Want help, info? E-mail to [e-mail] or [e-mail].
Ph: 916-262-1600. FAX [phone]. Packet: [e-mail]
Origination Stn: W6WWW@KM6PX.#NOCAL.USA.NA.  BBS 916-262-1657
ACS c/o State OES, 2800 Meadowview Rd., Sacramento, CA. 95832.
EOM



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Subject: Variable Speed Motor Control Circuit?
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I'm looking for an add-on circuit to vary the speed of cassette recorder
motors. I want to be able to vary the speed from 2*x to x/8 where x
is the normal cassette motor speed. All suggestions & solutions
appreciated.
--
[e-mail]              *** Web Page Access now FIXED ***
Dave Feustel N9MYI      For PGP Public Key, finger [e-mail]
Fort Wayne, IN          Or else access http://www.mixi.net/~feustel/
219-483-1857


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From: Randall Rhea <randall>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.shortwave
Subject: Re: Antenna recomendation needed
Date: 29 Dec 1995 21:07:23 GMT
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[e-mail] (Mikhail Teterin) wrote:
>Some time ago, I asked here for suggestions on how ot get European
>(Eastern European) stations in USA (Boston). Quite a few people
>tried to help, with directions on how to make an antenna for my
>Sony ICF-SW7600G (FM stereo/SW/MW/LW, PLL synthesized world band
>receiver).  As time shows, I can not follow their recomendations
>myself ): I am not a radio specialist personally. So, I guess, I'll
>need to buy an antenna and enjoy fruits like warranty and technical
>support (: Here I am with the <subject>...  Thank you very much!

The cheapest and easiest way is to buy any kind of insulated wire (the
cheap stuff will work fine) and string it around the room or on the roof.
Strip one end of its insulation so only the copper wire shows, then attach thi
s
end  to the antenna of the radio, and you will get greatly improved
shortwave reception.

Another option is to buy an active antenna.  This is a small box with a
telescoping whip and some sort of tuner box.  You can get one at Radio Shack
or one of many stores that sell shortwave radios.
--

=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Randall Rhea                                        Systems Engineer
Informix Software                                   [e-mail]



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From: Randall Rhea <randall>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: 11m,10m,6m  booming
Date: 29 Dec 1995 21:27:40 GMT
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[e-mail] (charles copeland) wrote:
>10m, 6m were booming 25th, 26th, and we'll see about today.
>First time in months for me.
>I haven't heard 10m open since summer, and nothing like this.
>Even listened to 11m briefly and heard good buddies all across USA.
>Heard WB0NOA (Gordon West) all day on 28.400 and he reported
>contacts with Japan. Wonder what type of rig he has to have
>such a strong signal?
>Any reports out there regarding unsual propogation?

This is not unusual.  There is a sporadic-E peak around the winter
solstice. (Dec. 21)  An even better peak occurs at the summer solstice
in June.  Openings occur at this time of year no matter what the
solar flux.

--

=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Randall Rhea                                        Systems Engineer
Informix Software                                   [e-mail]



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SB SPCL @ ARL $ARLX075
ARLX075 Ham radio on parade

ZCZC AX46
QST de W1AW
Special Bulletin 75  ARLX075
From ARRL Headquarters
Newington CT  December 30, 1995
To all radio amateurs

SB SPCL ARL ARLX075
ARLX075 Ham radio on parade

The Edison Amateur Radio Network in Southern California will bring
ham radio to the Tournament of Roses Parade in Pasadena January 1.
The group plans to operate on 20 meters from the Southern California
Edison parade float using the club's call sign, WB6UCD. Please note
that this call sign was listed incorrectly in an earlier bulletin.

In exchange for the opportunity to operate from the float, and to
possibly get some national publicity for Amateur Radio in the
process, club members agreed to help build the float. In addition to
parade day, WB6UCD will be on the air daily after December 26 as the
float is under construction. Jim Walls, WB6WMW, will be at the
controls January 1.
NNNN
/EX


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Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: ANOTHER TRY AT POSTING: JANUARY CLASSES AT RICHMOND, VA.
Date: 29 Dec 1995 21:33:42 -0500
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          STUDY CLASSES FOR AMATEUR RADIO LICENSE!
                  RICHMOND, VIRGINIA, U.S.A.

   To enjoy the fascinating hobby of HAM RADIO, You must
   be licensed by the Federal Communications Commission.
   You are invited to enroll in a 10-week course of
   study for the following license:

          ***** Novice & NO-Code Technician *****

                ***** Technician Plus *****

                    ***** General *****

                  Registration fee $10.00

           Textbook used is "NOW YOU'RE TALKING"

     Registration/Orientation Thursday, January 11, 1996
      Schedule: Tuesday & Thursday 7:00 P.M. - 9:00 P.M.

                           Place:
  Westhampton School  5800 Patterson Ave. (at Libby Ave.)
                 For more information,call:

              Mike Ratcliff,  KC4AHE, (804)-272-7167
              Warren Boyden,  KB4STL, (804)-233-3170
              Raymon Roberts, W4MYI,  (804)-740-5850

-------------------------------------------------------

                      Sponsored by the
                RICHMOND AMATEUR RADIO CLUB
          Club meetings 8:P.M. Every SECOND Friday
               Bon Air United Methodist Church
                      1645 Buford Road
                      VISITORS WELCOME

--

(S)lower (T)han (L)ight



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From: [e-mail] (Drew Durigan)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Hello??? this is KD4DMM  anyone out there?? CQ CQ CQ
Date: 29 Dec 1995 21:43:28 GMT
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>
>[e-mail] (KF2TI) wrote:
>
>>My Mis. Steak  Drew's call is Kilo Delta Four Dumb Dumber Meathead...
>
>>not Dumb Mental Midget
>
>Why is it that neither KD4DMM or KD4DDM list out to anyone named Drew?
>
>One is a Maurice & the other is Roy Deyton.  Could Drew be a fraud and
>using someone's ID improperly?
>
>Hmmmmmm
>
>
>         C. Dean Norris, Esq.
>      Amateur Radio Station K7NO
>      e-mail to [e-mail]


No, Dean.  It's because the bright boys who I...uh, "debate" with here on
this newsgroup cannot seem to read my call corrrectly.  Since I post my
call on EVERY one of my posts, I find this truly amazing.

-Drew in Charlotte-
 K_F_4DDM



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[e-mail] (Leigh) wrote:
>
>Drew Durigan ([e-mail]) wrote:
>
>: For more information, call their toll-free membership hotline.
>
>: 1-800-HAM-FAGS
>
>: -Drew in Charlotte-
>:  KF4DDM
>
>What an azzh*le...  Drew, you frankly disgust me.
>
>--Leigh Marrin/KM6JE in Santa Barbara.


Hey Leigh...it's a joke. :-)   Lighten up, will ya?

That's the problem in today's politically-correct society; you can't say
anything anymore without someone or some little whiney special-interest
group taking offense to it.  Sad, really.

-Drew in Charlotte-
 KF4DDM



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In Article<4bsl2v$[e-mail]>,
<[e-mail]> write:
> Path:
rocksanne!parc!biosci!agate!spool.mu.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!
newsfeed.internetmci.com!in2.uu.net!caen!news.umass.edu!nic.umas
s.edu!phobos.oit.umass.edu!LEMPICKI
> From: [e-mail] (Robyn Lyn Lempicki)
><snip>
> Hi!  Has anyone tried Code Quick <snip> ...TIA  -Gerry

Gerry ---

I purchased it, but can not say that I really used it.  The
theory behind it is profoundly "silly".  You are saying cutesey
things out loud, and tracing your finger in the air and over
"rough surfaces".  I found that I needed to be quietly alone
when practicing, something that I found difficult to do.  (It
was too humiliating having the yl and dog laughing at me!)

But, the thing that really gripes me is the poor audio quality
of the tapes.  The "tone" of the CW is like nothing you have
heard before, nor will probably hear again!  If I had the time,
I wanted to catch it on a storage scope and/or spectrum
analyzer and see just what makes it sound so awful.

All that aside, there are folks who swear by CodeQuick,
especially to get over the "hump" at about 11 wpm.  For me,
what worked was CONSTANT practice with tapes I made myself from
a PC code practice program.

73 de KG2EP (Paul)




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From: [e-mail] (P Dettmann)
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Subject: Re: Dumber than dumb (what hams know about Electronics
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[e-mail] wrote:


>I bet 99% of those that read this cannot answer this. Of course we will

Sad to say there is a very high proportion of engineers who are also
in trouble with questions like this so what is your point?

                      Peter Dettmann




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From: David Robbins <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Internet site for Solar Flux history?
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http://www.sel.noaa.gov/radio/radio.html
has data for last few days and links to archives of data.  you should
know however that the solar flux value is only updated once a day at
2100z.  the k index is updated every 3 hours.  and the a index is
updated once a day at 2100z.

there is more detail available from the goes satellites that measure
xray flux and particle fluxes every couple minutes.  the noaa web page
also has links to those archives i think.

--
[e-mail]   or   [e-mail]
http://www.berkshire.net/~robbins/ky1h.html
WWW Page now has New England Flea Market list from W1GSL


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From: [e-mail](michael silva)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Dumber than dumb (what hams know about
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In <4c1avk$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Larry AD3Y)
writes:
>
>>If a tranistor is driven into saturation and the collector is
attached
>>to a 1000 ohm resistor with 10 volts Vcc what is Vce?
>
>Cliff Sharp wrote:
>
>>Where is the emitter attached?
>
>Good question!
>
>Also, is there a resistor attached between the emitter
>and it's bias voltage? If so, there would be an additional
>voltage drop there.

This sounds like pettifogging to me.  Perhaps some of it is because of
Burt's usual antagonistic way of saying anything, but part of knowing
the material involves making reasonable assumptions.  If you're worried
that the emitter isn't at 0 volts, you can still answer the saturation
question.  If you want to take into account the leakage current thru
the load resistor than by all means do so.  None of that changes the
fact that cutoff and saturation are basic concepts, and that hams
should understand them.  In the 1995 Handbook they are discussed in the
*third* paragraph of the BJT article (and no doubt that discussion is
also plagued with ambiguities).  Once again, this is *not* EE-level
material.

73,
Mike, KK6GM



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From: [e-mail] (Brian Ellsworth)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Dumber than dumb (what hams know about Electronics
Date: Sat, 30 Dec 1995 02:01:23 GMT
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On Thu, 28 Dec 1995 23:44:12 GMT, [e-mail] (Clifton T.
Sharp) wrote:


>
>I cannot answer because you didn't give enough information.
>
>>If a tranistor is driven into saturation and the collector is attached
>>to a 1000 ohm resistor with 10 volts Vcc what is Vce?
>
>Where is the emitter attached?
>
If the transistor is a npn it might be less than 10 volts. If it's a
pnp, it might be more than 10 volts. I can't see where it matters much
if by definition the transistor is saturated. Same goes for the other
examples...






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I'd rather see my sister in a whorehouse than my brother on a Mac...


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From: [e-mail] (Jim Weir)
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Farmer Lang wanted to start an antique farm implements store on his
place down the road a piece.  He went to the local zoning agency at
the county to get permission to put up a lighted sign for his business
and was turned down because of zoning.  He appealed to the local board
and was told:

Should old ag quaintness be forgot and never have a light
Should old ag quaintness be forgot and shades on old Lang's sign.

For old Lang's sign my boys
For old Lang's sign
We'll take a vote
To rock the boat
And we'll put up old Lang's sign.


Jim Weir VP Engineering  | "We seem to be standing on
RST Engineering          |  the foreskin of technology."
Grass Valley CA 95945    | (Gen. Chuck Yeager)
voice/fax [phone]   |
[e-mail]  AR Adv WB6BHI  CFI A&G/Comml Inst A&G/A&P/C-182A N73CQ



From Unknown Mon Jan 01 01:17:33 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Jim Weir)
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Subject: FCC On Vacation?
Date: Sat, 30 Dec 1995 02:55:19 GMT
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Does anybody know if the recent US Gov't shutdown has caused
Gettysburg to stop issuing licenses?  Last entry I can find for the
QRZ license site is an effective date of 16 December, and those folks
are generally up to the date within 24 hours or so.

In particular, we have a couple of dozen folks that took their exam on
the 16th and we haven't been able to find out a thing.

Suppose, just suppose that Congress and Slick Willie keep butting
heads for a few months.  Does that mean that IF the FCC is shut down
that the people who took their exams in good faith expecting their
government (to whom they pay taxes IN ADVANCE for services) to fulfill
their part of the bargain then have the right to pick some
off-the-wall call sign and get on the air?  Illegal?  Isn't the
government not keeping the faith with the rules they set up themselves
all part and parcel of the same illegal act?

Jim



Jim Weir VP Engineering  | "We seem to be standing on
RST Engineering          |  the foreskin of technology."
Grass Valley CA 95945    | (Gen. Chuck Yeager)
voice/fax [phone]   |
[e-mail]  AR Adv WB6BHI  CFI A&G/Comml Inst A&G/A&P/C-182A N73CQ



From Unknown Mon Jan 01 01:17:34 1996
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Subject: Re: Un francΘs estß buscando contacto
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[e-mail] wrote:

>In article <[e-mail]>, Philippe CUVINOT
><[e-mail]> wrote:

>> Hola,
>>
>> Soy francΘs y estoy buscando a amigos para conversar acerca de temas
>> latino americanos. Me interesa muchφsimo la cultura precolombina y
>> estoy realizando una pßgina a prop≤sito de las grandes civilizaciones.
>> Escribanme para darme ideas interesantes. Gracias.
>> Hasta pronto, Philippe.

>Hola Philippe,

>   Yo soy frances tambien, y vivo en Los Angeles, California. Trabajo como
>bibliotecario especializado en literatura mexicana y centro americana, en
>la University of Southern California. Me gustaria conversar contigo en
>cualquier idioma (espanol, frances, ingles) y ayudarte. Aqui en el sur de
>la California hay mucha gente de habla hispana y muchas organizaciones
>culturales : mexicanas, salvadorenas, hondurenas......bueno una fuente muy
>larga de posibilidades. Puedes usar mi correo electronico directamente

>[e-mail]

>espero hablar contigo muy pronto!  gracias

>JEAN-LUC


>JEAN-LUC ESTRELLA
>DOHENY MEMORIAL LIBRARY
>UNIVERSITY PARK CAMPUS
>LOS ANGELES, CA, 90089
>U.S.A.




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From: [e-mail] (Randy Kielich)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: MRF-240 & MRF-240A Transistors
Date: 30 Dec 1995 05:38:34 GMT
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        Our repeater has blowin it's finals.  We desperately need these
transistors for our finals.

        No one seems to have them at Motorola etc.  Anyone have some or a
'solid' lead on where to find these?

        Many thanks;

        _Randy Kielich  N6WDV




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Is there any way to find out the station location of an amateur radio
station by looking up the callsign instead of just the mailing address?
I realize you can get the mailing address from things such as the QRZ
CD-Rom but since an amateur license contains both the mailing address and
station location address and since they may be different, I was wondering
if any database is available to find the station location too.



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From: [e-mail] (Michael Crestohl)
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Subject: Re: Hey you Burt-bashers! Read this!
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all previous posts mercifully omitted!!)

My question is: why do you even bother with burt?  I mean, if the guy's a
douchebag, why even waste the time to reply to him or read his messages?
Some people really like to get a "rise" out of others and in your case it
seems that burt is getting what he wanted.

Ignore assholes . . . .they DO go away!

Michael Crestohl, KH6KD/W1
[e-mail]


From Unknown Mon Jan 01 01:17:38 1996
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From: [e-mail] (KF2TI)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: 10 meters dead? NOT!
Date: 30 Dec 1995 09:14:58 -0500
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In article <4c0sli$[e-mail]>, aL Masters
<[e-mail]> writes:

>i was wondering about 10m...why so quite. i'm not very active, and have
>recently started listening to 10m without hearing a sound...what gives???

>it seems to me that IT IS dead as a doornail. thanks...aL Masters -
Dallas
>Tx - N5UBZ.
>
>
>

Two words  SOLAR CYCLE

which we are rapidly approaching the bottom of...(hopefully crashing
sometime next year).  Dead is in the eyes and ears of the beholder.  For
DX'er types (like myself), yes 10 is 10 as far as most of the world.
Occasionally, South America will chime in, but for the most part, 10M is
great for local (up to 300-500 miles) contacts.  After several years of
trying, I finally got to confirm  RI, NH and VT, which is quite hard
consdiering my location in NNJ.

It'll get better

73,  steve  10X -  61791


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From: [e-mail] (Midnight Communications)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Kenwood TH-79A(D) Mods
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Does anyone have mods for the 79 other than the mod sheet released by
clayton wagar kd4idn, i am perticuarly interested in key pad mods.

                                KF4CAG



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From: [e-mail] (Jim Rogo)
Newsgroups: comp.arch.embedded,rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Variable Speed Motor Control Circuit?
Date: 30 Dec 1995 11:51:34 -0700
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In article <[e-mail]>,
David Feustel <[e-mail]> wrote:
>I'm looking for an add-on circuit to vary the speed of cassette recorder
>motors. I want to be able to vary the speed from 2*x to x/8 where x
>is the normal cassette motor speed. All suggestions & solutions
>appreciated.

Use a DAC (digital-analog converter) to a motor speed IC.  I remember
Phillips/Signetics made a couple.

A brute force way would be to drive the DAC into a power OP AMP which
drives the motor.

I worked for a company where we were doing data logging at x/2 speed.
We had lots of problems with cassette drag and mechanism problems.
Wow and flutter are really amplified at low speeds due to friction.

Jim Rogo





From Unknown Mon Jan 01 01:17:41 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Gary Danaher)
Reply-To: [e-mail]
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Distribution: world
Subject: Re: Austin Amateur Radio Suppy
Date: 30 Dec 1995 12:40:24 GMT
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A similar problem occurs in the Dallas area, where we enjoy the presence of
Texas Towers, a store where money talks. If you come in the door with cash in
hand, they could be nice, well they might. Primarily a mail order outlet,
they are used to taking orders and filling them. If I walk in and know
exactly what I want, yes they will sell it to me, and tghe price won't be
bad. But God help me or anyone who should have a question or ask for an
educated opinion. Truth is, they don't have an educated opinion.

Just 20 miles across town in Garland, and closer to my house is Tucker's.
Almost everything you could want with friendly hams offering positive
assistance. Any surprise they are cconstantly expanding their store?? Folks
in North Texas or Southern Oklahoma, you should try Tuckers before going
anywhere else. Real nice folks, owned by hams, and dedicated to helping
people and working deals. No, I don't work for these guys, just a happy
consumer, and have never heard a bad story...



From Unknown Mon Jan 01 01:17:41 1996
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From: [e-mail] (WB8VBW)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: VE Test Session in Maryland - Jan 20, 1996
Date: 30 Dec 1995 12:49:22 -0500
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Teh next MADRA Test Session is Saturday Jan 20, 1996 in Smithsburg MD near
Hagerstown.  Test Time is 10 AM.  Applicants should arrive at 9:30 AM.

This is an ARRL VEC test session and pre registration is requested... Call
our voice BBS at 301-416-8447 and select box 110. Additional testing info
is there and you can leave a message to pre register.

73

Mike


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From: [e-mail] (Robert Reed)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: ** WINDOWS'95 UPGRADE CD's  $50 **
Date: 30 Dec 1995 14:44:23 GMT
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WINDOWS'95 UPGRADE CD AND MANUAL
========================================================

My Cardiologist office has merged his 3 offices with 2 others
and has purchased all new computers and upgraded software for
all the offices. His software provider will not guanrantee
the perfomance under Windows'95 so he is not upgrading past
Windows 3.1

He has given me all the upgrade packages that were sent to
him after his purchase. Obviously I can only use 1 package.

I have for sale the extra Windows'95 Upgrade Kits. These are
CD-ROM Upgrade kits. They are sealed Microsoft Upgrade kits
with the Microsoft Certificate of Authenticity, holographic
security label, etc.

The price is $ 50.00 including shipping.

Contact  Bob Reed, WB2DIN, at [phone] any time until
2300EST daily.

-
  ROBERT REED, WB2DIN           [e-mail]
  538 Brewers Bridge Road
  Jackson, New Jersey 08527      PACKET  WB2DIN@WT3V



From Unknown Mon Jan 01 01:17:44 1996
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Subject: Santa has seen by ham radio operators
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: [e-mail]
Date: Sat, 30 Dec 95 14:48:00 EST
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W A R N I N G contains material for 6 year olds and older.

Now that Christmas is past and New Year is fast approaching, maybe it might
be good to rellect on the following bit of scientific information:


                        IS THERE A SANTA CLAUS?

  As a result of an overwhelming lack of requests, and with research help
  from that renown scientific journal SPY magazine (January, 1990) - the
  author is pleased to present this scientific inquiry into Santa Claus.

  1)  No known species of reindeer can fly.  BUT there are 300,000 species
  of living organisms yet to be classified, and while most of these are
  insects and germs, this does not COMPLETELY rule out flying reindeer which
  only Santa has ever seen.

  2)  There are 2 billion children (persons under 18) in the world. BUT
  since Santa doesn't (appear to) handle the Muslim, Hindu, Jewish and
  Buddhist children, that reduces the workload to 15% of the total - 378
  million according to Population Reference Bureau.  At an average (census)
  rate of 3.5 children per household, that's 91.8 million homes.  One
  presumes there's at least one good child in each.

  3)  Santa has 31 hours of Christmas to work with, thanks to the different
  time zones and the rotation of the earth, assuming he travels east to west
  (which seems logical).  This works out to 822.6 visits per second. This is
  to say that for each Christian household with good children, Santa has
  1/1000th of a second to park, hop out of the sleigh, jump down the
  chimney, fill the stockings, distribute the remaining presents under the
  tree, eat whatever snacks have been left, get back up the chimney, get
  back into the sleigh and move on to the next house.  Assuming that each of
  these 91.8 million stops are evenly distributed around the earth (which,
  of course, we know to be false but for the purposes of our calculations we
  will accept), we are now talking about .78 miles per household, a total
  trip of 75-1/2 million miles, not counting stops to do what most of us
  must do at least once every 31 hours, plus feeding and etc.

  This means that Santa's sleigh is moving at 650 miles per second, 3,000
  times the speed of sound.  For purposes of comparison, the fastest man-
  made vehicle on earth, the Ulysses space probe, moves at a poky 27.4 miles
  per second - a conventional reindeer can run, tops, 15 miles per hour.

  4)  The payload on the sleigh adds another interesting element.  Assuming
  that each child gets nothing more than a medium-sized lego set (2 pounds),
  the sleigh is carrying 321,300 tons, not counting Santa, who is invariably
  described as overweight.  On land, conventional reindeer can pull no more
  than 300 pounds.  Even granting that "flying reindeer" (see point #1)
  could pull TEN TIMES the normal amount, we cannot do the job with eight,
  or even nine.  We need 214,200 reindeer.  This increases the payload - not
  even counting the weight of the sleigh - to 353,430 tons. Again, for
  comparison - this is four times the weight of the Queen Elizabeth.

  5)  353,000 tons traveling at 650 miles per second creates enormous air
  resistance - this will heat the reindeer up in the same fashion as
  spacecraft re-entering the earth's atmosphere.  The lead pair of reindeer
  will absorb 14.3 QUINTILLION joules of energy.  Per second.  Each.  In
  short, they will burst into flame almost instantaneously, exposing the
  reindeer behind them, and create deafening sonic booms in their wake. The
  entire reindeer team will be vaporized within 4.26 thousandths of a
  second.  Santa, meanwhile, will be subjected to centrifugal forces
  17,500.06 times greater than gravity.  A 250-pound Santa (which seems
  ludicrously slim) would be pinned to the back of his sleigh by 4,315,015
  pounds of force.

  In conclusion - If Santa ever DID deliver presents on Christmas Eve, he's
  toast now.

--
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From Unknown Mon Jan 01 01:17:45 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Dave Bushong)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Hey you Burt-bashers! Read this!
Date: 30 Dec 1995 15:05:55 GMT
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In article <4c3f7n$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] says...
>My question is: why do you even bother with burt?  I mean, if the guy's a

I wanted to find out if the animosity he's drummed up is justified.  It is,
and I will be taking your advice:

>Ignore assholes . . . .they DO go away!

I just wanted to be sure *before* I added him to my killfile.  I don't do that

lightly.  Like I said, I respect the right of people to express their opinion,

and the only way I grow intellectually is to listen to differing opinions.
But I don't want to grow into burt, so I will be ignoring him.

See you on the air!

73,
Dave

--
Dave Bushong, MRS Technology Inc.
[e-mail]                   KZ1O is at 19T 0299072
                                               UTM 4730737



From Unknown Mon Jan 01 01:17:46 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Clarence Erickson)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: NuMorse Code Trainer Found on net
Date: 30 Dec 1995 15:56:57 GMT
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Thank you folks for your help in finding NuMorse.
I finally found it outside of compuserve at
ftp.une.edu.au  in the directory /pub/ham-radio/funet/ham/morse

I have played with it some and it looks pretty good.


Again thanks for your help.


Clarence Erickson  WB0NCP
[e-mail]
[e-mail]


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Subject: Re: Best repeater controller under US$150
Date: Sat, 30 Dec 1995 16:09:56 GMT
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[e-mail] (Peter Laws) wrote:
Peter,

Take a look at
John Bell
1381 Saratoga St.
Minden, NV 89423
702-267-2704

He has a controller with autopatch no voice (but the Hallmark idea I
saw is a nice touch  - a true greeting?)
I haven't seen John since he was here in the Bay Area - but I remember
him as a good designer.

He has ads in 73 and I think also QST
73 Dec 95 Pg 25
Price 139.95

Give John a call and tell him high from Noland (I think I was with
Motorola Semi at the time)

Noland WB6CKT - 147.69/.09 low level SFO Bay Area

>We're looking for a repeater controller.  There are several on the market
>that fit our criteria, but we're looking for actual experiences.  The
>criteria are (decreasing level of importance!)::

>1) Less than US$150 ("Please Sir, we're poor students.")

>2) must be expandable (provision for addition of DVID, links to other
>repeaters and/or links to remote receivers)

>3) phone patch would be nice.

>Responses here or via email OK.

>73,
>Peter Laws,  N5UWY - V31WY

>Public Information Officer,
>Club Historian,
>Amateur Radio Club,
>University of Arkansas / W5YM
>WWW: http://www.uark.edu/studorg/w5ym/   <-- check us out!





From Unknown Mon Jan 01 01:17:48 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Jim Gaskins)
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Subject: Re: FCC Database Question
Date: Sat, 30 Dec 1995 17:10:02 GMT
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LVScott <[e-mail]>, in a fit of total madness, wrote:


>Is there any way to find out the station location of an amateur radio
>station by looking up the callsign instead of just the mailing address?
>I realize you can get the mailing address from things such as the QRZ
>CD-Rom but since an amateur license contains both the mailing address and
>station location address and since they may be different, I was wondering
>if any database is available to find the station location too.
>

There is no longer a "Station Location" field on the form 610. In
fact, I have the last 2 issue dates of 610 and neither one require
anything but a mailing address. No such thing as a separate station
location any longer.
e-mail-->[e-mail]
Amateur Radio Station-->AD4SI

...I never wake up Grumpy.....I just let her sleep!



From Unknown Mon Jan 01 01:17:49 1996
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From: [e-mail] (James A Doty)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Hello??? this is KD4DMM  anyone out there?? CQ CQ CQ
Date: 30 Dec 1995 19:01:31 GMT
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Robert  Moren ([e-mail]) wrote:
> Hello:
>
> Maybe I can get some help from you. I am interested in getting involved in
> had radio but have no idea where to start. I know that I have an interest

One place to start would be your local amateur radio store, there are
usually posts that show when and where local clubs hold their meetings
and a list of local testing sessions.  While at the ham store ask
questions and possibly pick up study material.  Go to a local ham
club meeting, people in our club are always ready to help someone get
into ham radio.

I hope this helps.

James A. Doty
KI7EL



From Unknown Mon Jan 01 01:17:50 1996
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From: [e-mail]
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Subject: Re: Info-Hams Digest V95 #1204
Date: 30 Dec 95 19:12:28 GMT
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In a message dated 95-12-30 10:02:04 EST, you write:

>[e-mail] (David Bushong)
>Subject: Hey you Burt-bashers! Read this!

I don't understand why you even acknowledge his presence....

IGNORE HIM and HE'LL GO AWAY!

Let's return this Newsgroup to Amateur Radio Related matters instead of
people bashing.

Happy 1996

Tom/N3PGG


From Unknown Mon Jan 01 01:17:50 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Drew Durigan)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Austin Amateur Radio Suppy
Date: 30 Dec 1995 20:06:11 GMT
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But mail order will save the sales tax.

Like everything else in Texas, the sales tax is king-sized! <g>
Somewhere between 8-9%, last I heard, so the savings would be substantial.


-Drew in Charlotte-
 KF4DDM



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From: [e-mail] (Drew Durigan)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Hey you Burt-bashers! Read this!
Date: 30 Dec 1995 20:09:46 GMT
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[e-mail] (David Bushong) wrote:
>
>
>My humble opinion follows.... de kz1o
>
>Burt Fisher has been posting here for quite some time, and has made
>many enemies.

(essay-length reasons why he dislikes Burt deleted)

Looks like we've got another one who's swallowed Burt's flame-bait hook,
line, and sinker! <g>

-Drew in Charlotte-
 KF4DDM



From Unknown Mon Jan 01 01:17:52 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Scott Leaf)
Subject: Re: Manual for ICOM IC-24AT Please!
Sender: [e-mail]
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Date: Sat, 30 Dec 1995 21:44:26 GMT
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Xref: news.epix.net rec.radio.amateur.equipment:23232 rec.radio.amateur.misc:96271 rec.radio.swap:54186

Thanks to all that responded and their generous offers of assistance.

I found a fellow amateur less than a mile away that has it! Who Knew!?

Happy New Year

--
Scott Leaf VE7ZVZ CN89os
[e-mail]
Port Coquitlam, British Columbia, Canada
Mountain DX Club VA7SM - "To boldy VHF where no ham has VHFed before"
Coming up Summer '96 DX-pedition to rare grid CO80, on 6M, 2M & 70cm


From Unknown Mon Jan 01 01:17:53 1996
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From: Gregg Houck <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: New Web Site with Amateur Section
Date: 30 Dec 1995 21:52:33 GMT
Organization: InternetMCI
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Message-ID: <4c4cb1$[e-mail]>
NNTP-Posting-Host: usr18-dialup52.atlanta.mci.net

Greetings,

I sure hope this is the correct place to post this.  I did
check all other groups and this looked like the one.

First off, I must tell you there are Commerical Ads on this
site.

Now, this site has links to other Amateur sites and also
postings of the W1AW operating schedules and once permission
is granted, ARRL Bulletins and AMSAT news.. Please check out
the site and leave your Comments and sugestions.

http://www.houck.com/ham

Thank You
Gregg Houck
WA3WNE



From Unknown Mon Jan 01 01:17:54 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Phil Andrew)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: IC Delta 1 mods
Date: 30 Dec 1995 22:19:09 -0000
Organization: University of Warwick, Coventry, UK
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Does anyone have any information on modifying the Delta 1 (E or A) -
the Icom tripleband (2/70/23) handheld?


Any mods apreciated!


Cheers

Phil
               |
 http://www.csv.warwick.ac.uk/~esveg/
|Philip Andrew-+- Warwick Uni.| Dept. of Engineering|[e-mail] |
               |



From Unknown Mon Jan 01 01:17:55 1996
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From: [e-mail] (KF2TI)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Ham God born
Date: 30 Dec 1995 22:32:55 -0500
Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364)
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In article <4c3v5g$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (W8JI  Tom)
writes:

>What's she look like? I've got a spare IBM I can give your brother. I
>can't find any sisters down here in GA, they all married their cousins
>that drive Mac's .

i gess that's better than going to nashville and get my peterbilt


From Unknown Mon Jan 01 01:17:55 1996
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From: [e-mail]
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: hello
Date: 30 Dec 95 22:36:36 GMT
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info
hi i would like to join the mailing list
please let me know what available ... tks
[e-mail]


From Unknown Mon Jan 01 01:17:56 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Raymond Sarrio)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: What Ham Radio Manufaturer gives the best customer service???
Date: Sun, 31 Dec 1995 00:17:40 -0800
Organization: Raymond Sarrio Co.
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Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
NNTP-Posting-Host: host27.cyberg8t.com

Is it Kenwood, Icom, Yaesu, Ten-Tech, or Alinco? That is the new Ham Poll
question this month at URL

                     http://www.csz.com/sarrio.html.

Get the results in real time. While your there check out the results of
our previous poll questions. 73's Ray

--
Visit the Raymond Sarrio Co. Ham Radio Web Sore  http://www.csz.com/sarrio.htm
l
Extensive Discount Ham Radio Catalog
Ham Poll--New poll questions asked monthly



From Unknown Mon Jan 01 01:17:57 1996
Date: 31 Dec 1995 05:04:34 PST
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Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: [e-mail] (Big J)
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Organization: BBS-LA - We try harder than the other guys...
References: <4c4n26$[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Dumber than dumb (what hams know about Electro
Lines: 32


 This is JIM, in Studio City - KE6YB. I have mixed feelings about this
issue. I respect anybody that is a good operator,, BUT,, The original
purpose of ham radio was experimentation, invention, and advancing the
state of the art. Ham radio used to exist for people that are into radio
because they are interested in RADIO, the art and science of radio.
 Now and even before the no - code tech license came in, I find more and
more people (especially wives and kids) getting licensed just so they
can have a high tech "CB" or car phone to communicate around the family.
sometimes I hear xyl's that never ever use the radio for anything other
than paging their husband, and vice versa. I thought thats what GMRS
was supposed to be for. But thats allright with me on VHF and UHF. we
are in constant danger of losing our frequencys, because they are under
utilized. Thank God for the band plans that leave a few kc'c aside for
weak signal and experimentation. now HF is a different story
alltogether. I think the only thing that keeps HF from turning into
another Childrens Band are the harder written tests and especially
the code requirement. To appreciate operating code, you have to be
in love with the art and science of radio communication. Most HFers
know you can be heard under much worse conditions, with a much simpler
and less powerful transmitter, using morse code.

 Oh well, enough of the soapbox for today. Can someone tell me a little
more? is this a "newsgroup" on the internet. I did not get into using a
telephone modem, until last August. this is fairly new to me. Although
I do have experience with "packet" and "amtor" (love em both)
 How long will this post stay around, since these forums seem to have
hundreds of new messages posted each day?

 One more thing.. I need a manual for a Ten Tec Argosy, the analog
version. Or I need to have someone send me the the address and phone #
of TEN TEC in tennasee? thanks till next ttime - JIM - KE6YB


From Unknown Mon Jan 01 01:17:59 1996
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From: [e-mail]   (Bill Newkirk)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: FCC Database Question
Date: 31 Dec 1995 05:23:18 GMT
Organization: Space Coast Amateur Technical Group
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In <[e-mail]>, LVScott <Lvsco
[e-mail]> writes:
>Is there any way to find out the station location of an amateur radio
>station by looking up the callsign instead of just the mailing address?

nope..the FCC quit taking station location data some time ago. seemed that
the jammers never bothered to record their station locations and the formal
notification was going to go through the mails, so all they had to have was th
e
mailing address...some older databases may show a station location entry that'
s
probably still true for most people today...but it's not in the newer datasets
 and
there's no requirement any longer to file information on station location.

Bill Newkirk WB9IVR                  The Space Coast Amateur Technical Group
Melbourne, FL                       duty now for the future of amateur radio
Lombardi's 1st Law of Business:
Companies succeed in spite of their best effort.  If they succeed at all.



From Unknown Mon Jan 01 01:18:00 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Jeff Stillinger)
Subject: Re: Dumber than dumb (what hams know about Electronics
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2]
Organization: Coffee Radio Difference Committee
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]>
Date: Sun, 31 Dec 1995 07:58:01 GMT
Lines: 40

[e-mail] wrote:

: I bet 99% of those that read this cannot answer this. Of course we will
: never know because those that cannot answer, will not, so we will never
: know.

: If a tranistor is driven into saturation and the collector is attached
: to a 1000 ohm resistor with 10 volts Vcc what is Vce?

: If the same transistor is cutoff what is Vce?

: Will the tranistor get hotter at cutoff, saturation or in the middle of
: its conduction range?


: Burt Fisher
: K1OIK

: --
: *******************************************************************
: *  Message Sent From:   CCS WORLD  Cape Cod's Internet Address    *
: *  http://ccsnet.com  Telnet://ccsnet.com  Ftp://unix.ccsnet.com  *
: *  Games: TW2002, VGA Planets, 4 Player DOOM, Game Connection     *


Hey! Hey! Hey!

This is Burt Fisher folks!  He is back!  Oh no!

Ok Burt, I will play.  What is the answer?  Something about two comes to
mind, why I don't know.


--
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Jeff Stillinger - KB6IBB                              [e-mail]
PSC Box 3429                                          [e-mail]
Edwards AFB, CA  93524                                [phone]N1
      Flight Test Center, crashing aircraft so you don't have too.
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From Unknown Mon Jan 01 01:18:01 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Jeff Stillinger)
Subject: Re: Why is a ham like a three dollar bill?
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2]
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Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <4bphho$[e-mail]>
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Burt Fisher ([e-mail]) wrote:
: Both phoney.

:
: #================#=====================================================#
: |  Burt Fisher   |  Teacher of video, broadcasting and electronics     |
: | Amateur call   |         South Dennis, Ma. (Cape Cod)                |
: |    K1OIK       |  If you sit on the fence, it is a pain in the butt  |
: #================#=====================================================#
: | [e-mail]                            MAC is 5% of the market  |
: #======================================================================#

: Get a GIF of K1OIK by telnet://ccsnet.com and go to FREE downloads for
: bf1pres.gif (hams never had such excitment!) or call 508-385-3427 and
: download from file area 21 (free).

:-)

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Jeff Stillinger - KB6IBB                              [e-mail]
PSC Box 3429                                          [e-mail]
Edwards AFB, CA  93524                                [phone]N1
      Flight Test Center, crashing aircraft so you don't have too.
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From Unknown Mon Jan 01 01:18:02 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Jeff Stillinger)
Subject: Re: Smart ass? Dumber than dumb
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2]
Organization: Coffee Radio Difference Committee
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]> <4bt54m$[e-mail]> <4bufkk$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]> <4bvips$[e-mail]>
Date: Sun, 31 Dec 1995 08:03:33 GMT
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Burt Fisher ([e-mail]) wrote:
: Ed Ellers <[e-mail]> wrote:
: >
: >First of all, it's not necessary to have that level of knowledge of circuit
ry
: >to effectively use the spectrum.  A more appropriate question would have to
 do

: This was a very simple question. There was a day when a ham license meant SO
ME
: technical knowledge.



: >with, for example, what sort of stage functions are required in an SSB
: >transmitter, or perhaps how much bandwidth is occupied by an FM voice signa
l
: >given the audio bandwidth and deviation used.

: And your answer is?



: >Even if this question was at an appropriate level, it would still be too
: >limiting because it deals with one type of device for which there are
: >alternatives (namely tubes).

: OK if the plate voltage is 100v and grid voltage goes to +100v from minus
: 100v what happens?
:
: #================#=====================================================#
: |  Burt Fisher   |  Teacher of video, broadcasting and electronics     |
: | Amateur call   |         South Dennis, Ma. (Cape Cod)                |
: |    K1OIK       |  If you sit on the fence, it is a pain in the butt  |
: #================#=====================================================#
: | [e-mail]                            MAC is 5% of the market  |
: #======================================================================#

: Get a GIF of K1OIK by telnet://ccsnet.com and go to FREE downloads for
: bf1pres.gif (hams never had such excitment!) or call 508-385-3427 and
: download from file area 21 (free).


GO BURT GO  GO BURT GO

BURT BURT HE'S OUR MAN, IF HE CAN'T DO IT NO ONE CAN

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Jeff Stillinger - KB6IBB                              [e-mail]
PSC Box 3429                                          [e-mail]
Edwards AFB, CA  93524                                [phone]N1
      Flight Test Center, crashing aircraft so you don't have too.
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From Unknown Mon Jan 01 01:18:03 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Scott Ehrlich)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Jeep Grand Cherokee Loredo and RFI ???
Date: 31 Dec 1995 12:25:31 -0500
Organization: Cyber Access Internet Communications, Inc.
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Message-ID: <4c6h2b$[e-mail]>
NNTP-Posting-Host: kalypso.cybercom.net


I may be purchaseing a Jeep Grand Cherokee Loredo in about 6 months, and
was wondering if there were any known RFI problems with it?

I am aiming for a new model, but may purchase a used one.

I'm primarily a VHF/UHF user, but HF is not out of the question.

I'm also considering a Ford Bronco or Explorer.  Any recommendations
about the SUV (sport/utility vehicle) purchase would also be appreciated.

I am in the Boston, MA area - I am interested in these SUVs primarily for
the Winter and snow.

73, and Happy New Year to all!


--
Scott Ehrlich                    Web: http://www.ehrlichtronics.com
E-mail: [e-mail]         [e-mail]
Amateur Radio Callsign: wy1z


From Unknown Mon Jan 01 01:18:04 1996
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From: [e-mail] (RCWalker73)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: WTB:  1991 73 Magazine Article...
Date: 31 Dec 1995 12:25:33 -0500
Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364)
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Message-ID: <4c6h2d$[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail] (RCWalker73)
NNTP-Posting-Host: newsbf02.mail.aol.com

I'm looking for a copy of the article "Apartment Antennas: A Challenge"
which appeared in the May 1991 73 Amateur Radio Today.

Article is on page 6...will be willing to pay copying/mailing/or costs of
entire magazine!

KA8VQB




From Unknown Mon Jan 01 01:18:05 1996
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From: Arkady Voloshin <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: HAPPY NEW YEAR 1996 !  73 from UA4CC
Date: Sun, 31 Dec 95 12:55:46 +0300
Distribution: world
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                       Hello All !

     Happy New Year 1996 !

     All the best to you and yours !

     Greetings from Saratov-city to all!

             73 !     Ark/UA4CC



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From: Luis Eduardo C. DeManuel <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Contest Information
Date: 31 Dec 1995 13:56:03 GMT
Organization: Technology Futures Brasil
Lines: 10
Message-ID: <4c64pj$edj$[e-mail]>

Does anybody know the CQ magazine address or home page that
allows you to access contest results and info?


Best 73 es happy new year...



Ed
PY5CW


From Unknown Mon Jan 01 01:18:07 1996
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From: [e-mail] (W8FN)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Cut the crap: Contesting
Date: 31 Dec 1995 15:37:23 -0500
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Message-ID: <4c6sa3$[e-mail]>
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Reply-To: [e-mail] (W8FN)
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Hoo, boy! Just got to this little item. Since I **am** a dedicated
contester, I know whereof I speak. Most of us are in more or less the same
physical condition as the population at large; contesters are as
representative of the general ham population as any of the other special
subspecies. However...

I suggest you take a look at a typical contest station sometime. You'll
see fairly tall towers with lots of pretty good size antennas on them. Who
do you reckon erects the towers, climbs them to install the large
antennas, and then does the necessary maintenance? This doesn't happen by
itself, you know. Contesters don't just use their stations; they build and
maintain them too. Try climbing a 100-foot tower sometime. You'll find
it's an **excellent** aerobic workout. Do it enough and you can't help but
be in some sort of shape.

As for the physical endurance required to operate a contest, I suggest
that you try sitting down and running contacts at a rate of 100+ per hour
on CW or 200+ per hour on phone for about 9 hours straight. Then come back
and tell me it's physically easy. Just because something **looks**  easy
to an ignorant observer doesn't mean it is!

73 & Happy Holidays,
Randy, W8FN


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From: [e-mail] (Jose Antonio Gonzalez)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Speeding up in CW
Date: Sun, 31 Dec 1995 16:13:09 GMT
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[e-mail] (Ramon Tristani) wrote:

>Hello. It has been a long time since I dont practice CW and the 13 WPM
>speed I had has for sure been downgraded to maybe 5 or 7 WPM. I have
>seen some adds about computer programs and audio tapes that repudetly
>help in improving speed. If anybody out there knows about a good,
>proven one, could you please let me know abut it?

>Ramon
>KP4GE

Hola Ramon!

Super Morse es un excelente entrenador de CW, si te interesa te lo
puedo enviar via e-mail.

Un abrazo y feliz a±o nuevo.




From Unknown Mon Jan 01 01:18:09 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Jerry B Altzman)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.policy
Subject: Re: Dumber than dumb (what hams know about Electronics
Followup-To: rec.radio.amateur.policy
Date: 31 Dec 1995 16:47:49 GMT
Organization: double ionizers association
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In article <4c4n26$[e-mail]>,
Dave Ennes <[e-mail]> wrote:
>I am an appliance operator.  If my rig doesn't work I look to see if it's
>plugged
>in.  If it still doesn't work, I take it to the radio store.  I know
>nothing about
>electronics and I don't care.  However, I love the hobby and respect
>it's
>guide lines and would never do anything to hurt or degrade the hobby.

By not learning electronics you bring the "hobby" [sic] down.

Please respect the followup-to: line.

>N7DTD

//jbaltz
jerry b. altzman   Entropy just isn't what it used to be      [phone]
[e-mail]   [e-mail]  KE3ML  (HEPNET) NEVIS::jbaltz


From Unknown Mon Jan 01 01:18:10 1996
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Subject: Dave proves he has no life.
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: [e-mail]
Date: Sun, 31 Dec 95 16:47:52 EST
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Organization: Cape Cods Internet Address
Lines: 83



Bushlong whined:

I was wrong.  Burt really is a jerk.  He is small-minded, opinionated,
bitter, angry, unwilling to change, and the epitome of the expression:
"Those that can, do; those that can't, teach."

Burt says:
Jerk? What a deep vocabulary you have.
I do do. I am a vocational teacher which requires 6 years doing.
You are wrong again.


Bushlong whined:
Insisting on knowledge of how the radio works, at the transistor
level, is like requiring someone to know how the computer works, at
the same level, before they post to the newsgroup. (Oddly enough, that
would prevent burt from posting again, as he failed his own
electronics test; more on that in a moment).
Burt says:
I do not insist on technical competency among hams but a few with such
knowledge might fit into what hams are supposed to know

Bushlong whined:
His answer was that if I "had a week" he could tell me.  I think that
if he can only come up with a week's worth, he should go back and work
some more.  I've bored *close* friends to death, friends who were
hams, with *months* worth of stuff!
Burt said:
You are such a find with your months of self praise.


Bushlong whined:
The sad fact is that I haven't lived my life so that I could
"beat burt".  But after having done it without even trying, my
conclusion is that it's no big achievement.  It reminds me of the
unfortunate expression, "it was like kicking a retard."
                         ^^ ^^^ ^^^^ ^^^^^^^ ^ ^^^^^^
Burt said:
Putting me down raises you up?



Bushlong whined:
Late update: he sent me some hate mail this morning calling me a liar.
This was after he said he wasn't going to send me any more email.
"Hey kettle, this is burt!  You're black!"
Burt replied:
I did say you lied but where did I say I would not send you any more mail?
Methinks you are taking things out of context.


Bushlong whined:
Bottom line: burt failed his own challenge, and by his own
proclamation, he is a "typical ham" who is ruining the hobby.  He is
unreasonable, pedantic, stubborn, and does nothing to make the hobby
better.  He will follow up to this posting and make some personal
insults about me, although he has never met me, and knows nothing
about me.  Just watch.

Burt said:
Actually you who is full of insults. My only insult is" Bushlong whined:"



Bushlong whined:
He probably went off and had someone measure the voltage for him and
is trying to come up with a good answer why he was wrong.  The only
answer is that he was wrong.

Burt admitted:
You are right re: saturation voltage, I was wrong.

Burt Fisher
K1OIK

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From Unknown Mon Jan 01 01:18:11 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Jerry B Altzman)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: LARC: Gay Ham Club Activities
Date: 31 Dec 1995 17:04:08 GMT
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In article <4bvpa5$[e-mail]>,
Drew Durigan <[e-mail]> wrote:
>>>>The Lambda Amateur Radio Club (LARC), a U.S.-based international
>>>>club for G/L/B/T ham radio operators...
>For more information, call their toll-free membership hotline.
>1-800-HAM-FAGS

Oh, so you've called it too? Did they offer to come and loosen you up?

For those who can't read, however, you can send mail to (I got this out of
the 1/96 QST, page 172) [e-mail]. Drew, you needn't bother to
reply -- I'm sure some nice fellows in leather will be coming to visit you
(you've expressed such avid interest) and help you "tune up".

>-Drew in Charlotte-

//jbaltz
jerry b. altzman   Entropy just isn't what it used to be      [phone]
[e-mail]   [e-mail]  KE3ML  (HEPNET) NEVIS::jbaltz


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From: [e-mail] (Drew Durigan)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: no-code=no-brain
Date: 31 Dec 1995 17:10:38 GMT
Organization: Prodigy Services Company  1-800-PRODIGY
Lines: 10
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <4c6g6e$[e-mail]>
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>Here ye! Here ye! Read all about it!  Alligator hollars BIG MOUTH!
>POT CALLS KETTLE BLACK!  FCC says, "CODE STAYS!"  hehehehe

For now.


-Drew in Charlotte-
 KF4DDM




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From: [e-mail] (Jason D. Triolo)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Ham God born
Date: Sun, 31 Dec 1995 17:26:36 GMT
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[e-mail] (Dave Ennes) wrote:

>I don't know the answer but the guy at the place I bought my computer
>said "I have seen lots of Mac people change over to Dos but have never
>seen it
>the other way."

Some people would argue that it's happening all the time....it's
called Windows 95.

Seems to me like there's always more cost involved in a Mac. Not just
the system itself, but the accessories that you would get later. Is
this the case, or just my imagination?

73 de Jason, KD4ACG



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From: [e-mail] (Roy J. Tellason)
Newsgroups: comp.arch.embedded,rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Variable Speed Motor Control Circuit?
Date: 31 Dec 1995 17:33:58 GMT
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In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] says...
>
>I'm looking for an add-on circuit to vary the speed of cassette recorder
>motors. I want to be able to vary the speed from 2*x to x/8 where x
>is the normal cassette motor speed. All suggestions & solutions
>appreciated.

I'd have a go at using pulse-width modulation.  See if you can get a hold of
a copy of Don Lancaster's CMOS Cookbook.  He has a simple circuit in there he
describes as being useful for a caver's lamp that oughta do the trick,  uses
just a couple of gates and a power FET at the output end,  which makes it
real easy to scale it to your needs.



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From: [e-mail] (John McDavid)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: What hams know about electronics.( the survey said):
Date: Sun, 31 Dec 1995 18:13:05 GMT
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Burt Fisher <[e-mail]> wrote:

GEE burt does that apply to u ? I work for a large telleco co.
Providing pots to digital packet. Lets see about 1/3 of my co-workers
are hams....Education Novice to Extra.... B.S.E.E, M.B.A, P.E's and a
P.H.D. Naw we dont know beans about no tricity, but my dady had a TV
once. I Think I had a Teacher like you once.Check out IEEE
publications a bunch of those guys have ham calls, but that dont no
nothing!



















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From: [e-mail] (Ed Mitchell)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Internet site for Solar Flux history?
Date: 31 Dec 1995 19:23:45 GMT
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In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] says...
>
>http://www.sel.noaa.gov/radio/radio.html
>has data for last few days and links to archives of data.  you should
>know however that the solar flux value is only updated once a day at
>2100z.  the k index is updated every 3 hours.  and the a index is
>updated once a day at 2100z.
>
>there is more detail available from the goes satellites that measure
>xray flux and particle fluxes every couple minutes.  the noaa web page
>also has links to those archives i think.
>
>--
>[e-mail]   or   [e-mail]
>http://www.berkshire.net/~robbins/ky1h.html
>WWW Page now has New England Flea Market list from W1GSL

You can also find a current "today's solar" image, current 2800 MHz solar
flux chart, and a complete chart of the previous solar cycle and the current
solar cycle at Ham Radio Online at
http://www.accessone.com/~vbook/hronline.htm.

Near the bottom of the Table of Contents page, choose the Real-time solar data
option and enjoy.

73, Ed, KF7VY

------------------------
personal email to [e-mail]
Visit Ham Radio Online, it's free, at
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From: [e-mail] (Rod Troch N2ZVV)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc,rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Convers Node
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Date: 31 Dec 1995 19:24:04 GMT
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Howdy,

The wormhole that we, the Clear Lake ARC, are running has been
connecting to a Moscow Convers node for the past few months.
Unfortunately we have been having the worst of time lately connecting
to Moscow.  What I am looking for is another converse node
(preferrably here in the states) that we could connect to.

If you are willing to allow us to connect to your node please drop me
a line.

Thanks!
73,
Rod
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From: [e-mail] (Jim Martin)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.swap
Subject: Re: Austin Amateur Radio Suppy
Date: Sun, 31 Dec 1995 19:28:55 GMT
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I had the opportunity to visit AARS in 1991 while attending school at
Bergstrom Air Force Base in Austin.  Each time I visited the store was
a pleasant experience.

It is also my experience that sales people "have to be perfect" in
every way for SOME hams and when or if one has a bad day/week (sales
person or customer for that matter) there are those few who, either
via packet or internet, paste their displeasure on the monitors of
those who partake of these modes.

There are some hams who actually go way out of their way to find
something wrong with a ham sales establishment and end up amplifying
the little things to many times their actual importance or
un-importance...and they can't wait to share their negativism with the
rest of us.

We are all the sum of our experiences in life... and some of us have
had a better life than others. But, just because the sales people
don't stand at the door in tuxedos to greet everyone with hors
d'oeuvres and free gifts and the customer's name up in lights doesn't
make the place a bad place to shop.  After all, if EVERYONE
interpreted their visit experiences as that bad....these places
wouldn't be in business for very long.

Sales people are human too...just like next guy.  If one has a genuine
bad experience, call the owner or manager and let that person know of
the experience?  ...Or, run home and blast way with your keyboard
phaser?

just my two cents worth...

jim martin, wk1v
lowell, mass

My opinions are my own and do not reflect those of my employer in any
way, shape, or form.









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From: [e-mail] (Jim Martin)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: no-code=no-brain
Date: Sun, 31 Dec 1995 19:28:57 GMT
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[e-mail] (Drew Durigan) wrote:

>:[e-mail] (Stephan Rashkin) wrote:

>:>uuuhhh? Cause you're a jerk?
>:>
>:>Steve, WA2NHZ


>:Lack of substantive argument = resorting to name-calling and personal
>:insults.  You have proven my point better than I could have ever hoped to.


>:I rest my case.

>:-Drew in Charlotte-
>: KF4DDM

Here ye! Here ye! Read all about it!  Alligator hollars BIG MOUTH!
POT CALLS KETTLE BLACK!  FCC says, "CODE STAYS!"  hehehehe <BSEG>

Geez!

jim, WK1V



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From: [e-mail] (Drew Durigan)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: LARC: Gay Ham Club Activities
Date: 31 Dec 1995 19:36:23 GMT
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[e-mail] (Jerry B Altzman) wrote:
>
>In article <4bvpa5$[e-mail]>,
>Drew Durigan <[e-mail]> wrote:
>>>>>The Lambda Amateur Radio Club (LARC), a U.S.-based international
>>>>>club for G/L/B/T ham radio operators...
>>For more information, call their toll-free membership hotline.
>>1-800-HAM-FAGS
>
>Oh, so you've called it too? Did they offer to come and loosen you up?
>
>For those who can't read, however, you can send mail to (I got this out
of
>the 1/96 QST, page 172) [e-mail]. Drew, you needn't bother to
>reply -- I'm sure some nice fellows in leather will be coming to visit
you
>(you've expressed such avid interest) and help you "tune up".
>

Aw, Jerry...but then I'd have to call 1-800-GOT-AIDS!  <g>

-Drew in Charlotte-
 KF4DDM



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From: [e-mail] (David Feustel)
Subject: Radio Shack DX394 Radio?
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
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Anyone have any info on/opinions of the new Radio Shack DX 394 shortwave
radio?
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From Unknown Mon Jan 01 01:18:21 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Jim Lowman)
Subject: Re: QRP Reflector??
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
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litigate ([e-mail]) wrote:

: How do I subscribe to the qrl reflector? I tried sending a message
: to [e-mail] with subscribe as the text. It came back
: as address unknown. Thanks de Rick VE9HF.

Rick, you sent your "subscribe" request to the list itself, not to the
listserver which handles subscriptions.  This happens quite often.

Instead, send your request to:

[e-mail]

with the following text in the body of the message:

subscribe QRP-L YourName

I believe that is the correct format; if not, e-mail me and I will recheck
it.

I think you will enjoy this *very* active list.

73 de Jim - KF6CR
QRP-L #248


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From: [e-mail] (Jim Lowman)
Subject: Re: Contest Information
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Luis Eduardo C. DeManuel ([e-mail]) wrote:
: Does anybody know the CQ magazine address or home page that
: allows you to access contest results and info?


Ed, try:

http://www.access.digex.net/~cqmag/cqtest.html

73 and Happy New Year to you as well,

Jim - KF6CR


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From: [e-mail] (litigate)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: QRP Reflector??
Date: Sun, 31 Dec 95 20:39:30 GMT
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How do I subscribe to the qrl reflector? I tried sending a message
to [e-mail] with subscribe as the text. It came back
as address unknown. Thanks de Rick VE9HF.


From Unknown Mon Jan 01 01:18:24 1996
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From: Mats Sundstr÷m <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Ten-Tec Paragon-software ?
Date: Sun, 31 Dec 1995 23:45:53 +0100
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Where can I get software for controlling a Ten-Tec paragon ???
Happy New Year
Mats / SM4KSM