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- Presented by Luke Lynde
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- [1] INTRODUCTION
- Emulation Insights
-
- Hi everyone, here is Luke writing an
- article for you, all about Commodore
- 64 emulation. Well, I have a small
- collection of Commodore 64 hardware
- I use regularly (some of it, anyway),
- but I still enjoy the convenience of
- using emulators on the PC. I would be
- a bit disgruntled if I was stuck using
- emulators only, because I know and
- appreciate the real thing! The main 2
- emulators that are ruling the "C64 on
- the PC" world are of course, WinVice,
- and CCS64. Many others have tried
- C64 emulation, with varying degrees
- of success, but have fallen miles short
- of these "2 leaders in the emu-scene",
- as they are known - proudly standing
- on the podium of a dazed emu-nation.
- High tech, indeed...
-
- Not only in this article will I talk
- about WinVice and CCS64, I will also
- make Suggestions for improvement, which
- hopefully means the coders/creators
- will hear about and utilise. If a
- Suggestion I make is already
- incorporated, and I am unaware about
- it, I will no doubt feel a bit stupid.
-
- If again, a suggestion is incorporated
- in the program, but requires fiddling
- around too much, a much more user-
- friendly method is more appropriate,
- for obvious reasons. Technical is good,
- but a majority of people using
- Emulators, are people who had a C64
- when they were young, wanted to play
- some games again, they don't want alot
- of confusing settings (and tech-tech
- jargon) because of the time away from
- using the machine - you know the
- story...
-
- As suprising as it is what some people
- know about computers, it is also just
- as suprising what people don't know.
- Nothing wrong with being tech-
- minded, but someone asked me
- recently where the CD goes in?! They
- were talking about PC, if they were
- talking about C64 - I would probably
- forgive them (LOL)! Maybe in another
- 30+ years, emulation is going to be the
- only thing left to use, but until then,
- I fully support all those great
- hardcore users who are turning on their
- real C64's every day! As it stands
- today, the people behind WinVice and
- CCS64, should be applauded, for
- support of the C64, even if it is on a
- different platform. Man, when I started
- on C64 in 1988, who would of thought
- that around 20 years later, people
- would be using a emulator on a PC.
- Back then, PC's were total crap
- compared to C64. IMHO it wasn't until
- the Pentium processor (and Win'95),
- that PC's started taking off in leaps and bounds.
-
- [2] WINVICE
- http://www.viceteam.org/
-
-
- Well, WinVice is considered the best
- Commodore emulator on the PC, but
- has some annoyances which I will
- include at the end of this section,
- under the suggestions area. As with
- CCS64, when you first
-
-
- install this program - you have to make
- about 10-20 changes to the settings, to
- get it just the way you want. Some
- people use less settings, some more.
-
- You have a windowed mode, which is
- really only good in 640x480 resolution
- - something not common to many newer
- PCs - but with Windows XP you can run
- stuff in this resolution. Windowed mode
- has no scanlines, whereas the full mode
- (which takes up all the screen in 800x
- 600) has scanlines, making it appear
- somewhat like a television set. This is
- the mode I use. Modes higher than 800x
- 600 will show this full mode as
- actually more of a window... however, I
- feel there needs to be incorporated a
- 3/4 size mode.
-
- The SID emulation is excellent, but I
- prefer listening to SID on real c64 -
- the emulation though provides a
- different tempo and feel to the music,
- which is also quite nice. Compatibility
- is very high, with just about anything
- C64 can be thrown at this emulator, and
- it will handle it. D64 files are my
- main collection, though I have other
- types.
-
- Pressing Alt-D takes you to full screen
- mode, where all you see is the C64
- screen. However when you need to
- make any changes to the settings, you
- have to press Alt-D again to get access
- to the menu options. If the menu
- options were available whilst in the
- full screen mode, this would be
- excellent. Printer emulation tends to
- conflict alot with D64 images that have
- been released recently, mainly demos.
- Not so much older wares, if I can
- recall. Anyway, the jerkiness of the on
- screen movements are pretty bad, and
- for this reason - whenever I play
- games, I only use CCS64. For SID music,
- I use WinVice. For Demos, WinVice -
- then CCS64 (WinVice has better sound
- than CCS64, but CCS64 is more
- smoother). For Disk Magazines, WinVice
- or CCS64. For Graphics, WinVice.
-
- The Machine Code monitor in WinVice is
- more fully developed than in CCS64,
- btw. WinVice would be the sceners
- choice, but I still like the latest
- version of CCS64.
-
- Suggestions to improve WinVice:
-
- - Full Access to the menu system in
- Alt-D full screen mode, ie. all the
- miscellaneous options in drop down
- menus.
-
- - Instead of only a small (too small!)
- window video output (no scanlines)
- and full size video output (scanlines) -
- have a window mode in-between these
- two sizes (with scanlines option [3/4
- size?]). Most people still use 800x
- 600 resolution on their PC's, so an in-
- between video size, as suggested,
- would be ideal. Even for higher
- resolutions on LCD monitors, it would
- suffice.
-
- - Instead of dragging PRG files into
- the emulator window, have an option
- where you can double click on it from
- the menu system, and it automatically
- loads. The same goes for other similar
- single file types.
-
- - SID file player built-in, ie. double
- click on a sid file for it to load and run under a built-in SID player (like
- PSID64). It would be cool if an inbuilt
- SID player had some nice graphics
- displayer.
-
- - Movements on screen are very jerky,
- surely this can be improved, as CCS64
- have proven - some of it can be
- eliminated.
-
- [3] CCS64
- www.ccs64.com
-
- CCS64 is really nothing like WinVice,
- in terms of program, but is an
- authentic stand alone emulator of the
- C64.
-
- The graphic detail and sound quality is
- slightly less than WinVice (the sound
- being the most noteable of the two). I
- really enjoy using this emulator,
- probably mostly as the first C64
- emulator I really used was the DOS
- version of CCS64 made around 2001.
- CCS64 has lower system requirements
- than WinVice. The DOS version ran
- comfortably on a Pentium 133
- computer, I had. The latest version,
- may only require a slightly higher
- system. WinVice on the other hand, I
- think you need at least 600+ mhz - for
- use with basic settings. Interpolate
- SID in WinVice, I know, even slows down
- a 800mhz machine I have now.
-
- With the Latest version 3.1 of CCS64,
- if you have no 3D card - you may need
- to switch resolution to 16-bit (Medium
- color quality), or you get Direct-X
- errors. I really don't understand why
- this is not in the documentation,
- because I found this out by mistake -
- missing out on using the latest version
- for some months.
-
- Anyway, the menu system in CCS64 is
- comprised of a real C64 character set
- which I find an excellent and
- innovative idea. The settings are easy
- to apply and change, and you no longer
- feel like you are in a windows point
- and click environment.
-
- Printer emulation is simple, but
- provides limited compatibility in what
- I have used it for. Drive emulation and
- general CPU handling has greatly
- improved since, say - the 2001+
- versions, as it runs more programs than
- earlier versions.
-
- I always enjoy CCS64 for games, as it
- handles on screen movements with a less
- jerky feeling. It has something to do
- with a PC monitor versus TV set refresh
- rate, you can read about that in the
- CCS documentation. If CCS64 was the
- only emulator ever for the C64, I would
- not feel disappointed about it.
-
- CCS were actually a cracking group in
- the early 1980's, though I only ever
- heard of them through this emulator.
- Their cracks seemed nice, glad to see a
- member of the group made this
- emulator as some university project, I
- forget the details exactly.
-
- Suggestions to improve CCS64
-
- - Some interlace graphics look a bit
- bad, needs a finer touch.
-
- - SID emulation is still pretty poor,
- though better than earlier versions,
- maybe some collaboration with
- SIDPLAY/RESID coders is needed?
- Decent SID emulation could make
- CCS64 the C64 emulator of choice.
-
- - Machine code monitor, needs to
- undergo final development.
-
- - Can't fault much else about it, nice
- stuff!
-
- [4] IN CONCLUSION
-
- Well there you have it. Kind of like an
- Alien V Predator showdown, well not
- really. Some features of one emulator
- (WinVice) are better than a feature in
- another emulator (CCS64), and vice
- versa. Anyway, I think it better having
- 2 decent C64 emulators to choose
- from, rather than one. If I dare to
- give them a percentage rating, I would
- give WinVice about 90%, and CCS64 about
- 88%. There is not that much between
- them, from a novice users point of
- view
-
- Maybe the technical side points
- towards a different picture. I look
- forward to buying the new C64
- keyboard coming out next year
- anyway! Just joking, we can only
- hope that some eccentric billionaire
- loves the mellow beeps like we do...
- Catch you later!
-
- Signing off, Luke Lynde
- (IQ-Dna/People of Liberty)
-
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