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From: [e-mail]                                   05-Nov-99 18:23:14
  To: All                                               06-Nov-99 03:33:25
Subj: Re: 56K modem

From: [e-mail]


>No matter what modem you get, it won't run at 56K until you tweak your
>com port settings.   It seems that IBM has decided that a com port should
>run only just so fast and "hardwired os2" to this number.

I have not seen that to be the case. Until I recently moved to a crummy
phone section of town, :) I could consistently download at 53K, verified
by InJoy and several other programs that monitor the port. I have never
done anything to alter my comm port speeds. YMMV I guess.


>than 14400).  Your phone line can't exceed this value anyway (is has to
>do with the capabilities of the twisted copper conductors), and sometimes
>you recieve at one speed and send at another.

56K connections are one way, which is download. Uploads still only go at
28.8K, more or less.

Twisted copper can handle megabits of data, but not over a standard modem.
DSL 'modems' can use copper for huge transmission speeds.

John

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From: [e-mail]                             05-Nov-99 21:01:03
  To: dspisakNOSPAM@ccnet                               06-Nov-99 03:33:25
Subj: Re: Cannot Install FP42 on v3.0

To: dspisakNOSPAM@ccnet
From: Bob Grimes <[e-mail]>

Get the file b100.zip and unzip it.  Then run e and read the
instructions.  I installed it and now my Warp 3 system is running FP 42!

Dan Spisak/Marcia Trial wrote:
>
> Fixpak 40 is indeed the latest one for Warp 3.00.  It installed with
> minimum fuss.  Thanks for the help.
>
> Dan Spisak/Marcia Trial wrote:
> >
> > I have reinstalled Warp v3.0 on my computer and I want to install fixpak
> > 42.  Every time I try to install fp42 using FSERVICE I get the fatal
> > error message "CSF0257: no product selected".  Now what do I do?  The
> > current CSD level of the base system is XR0300.  I have installed fixpak
> > 5 which I thought would bring Warp to CSD level XR0W005, but SYSLEVEL
> > still reports XR03000.  I have tried installing fp42 from the *.zip and
> > the *.*dk files (using pkunzip, loaddskf, and xcopy as appropriate), but
> > the same error message is returned.  Any help will be appreciated.
> > Thank you.

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From: [e-mail]                               06-Nov-99 04:11:25
  To: All                                               06-Nov-99 03:33:25
Subj: Re: Video wrong at boot desktop, how fix?

From: [e-mail]

In article <qpkdVVNoMoTk-pn2-08xp7wZvkPx0@tcpserver>,
  [e-mail] (Lorne Sunley) wrote:
> > Except this card has been reprogrammed to work at 81 Khz instead of
> > 31.5Khz! Win9x somehow understands the "new" VGA mode, but OS2 maint
> > mode does not.
>
> <more snip>
>
> So why don't you use whatever utility you used to reprogram
> it and change it back to VGA standard  using 31.5 KHz
Except the monitor will not work with a horiz freq less than 59Khz. I
used the Dos adjust display routine to scale things both ways and found
the range of the Monitor was 59-82.89Khz
>
> Changing the card from VGA spec is what is causing the
> problem.
Actually works with Win9x !!  Seems that OS2 has hard coded a set
frequency and no one seems to give enough insight to indicate how to
get it adjusted to higher levels like Win9x seems to handle.
>
> OR
> Put some other card in the machine that will work
> with standard VGA, then install the drivers for the Savage4,
> shutdown the machine, install the Savage4, then re-boot it
> with the Savage4 drivers....
Great Idea, except I tried it already 3 times. Each time the install
refused to install the Savage drivers because the video chip wasnt the
right one. ( It was the plain generic VGA chip )

Rich Sias


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From: [e-mail]                             04-Nov-99 16:12:21
  To: All                                               06-Nov-99 03:33:25
Subj: Re: Bad Install disk

From: "Doug Darrow" <[e-mail]>

On Tue, 2 Nov 1999 09:16:32 -0500, Valheru wrote:

>I just called IBM and they want me to either buy a new contract, buy version
>4, or go to egghead and buy version 3 which is on back order 30 days+.
>Arrghhhh !!!!
>
Yup. Shoulda thunk of it BUT...OS/2 Warp 3 is no longer supported, so
IBM will no longer...er...support it! :-/


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From: [e-mail]                           06-Nov-99 05:25:21
  To: All                                               06-Nov-99 03:33:25
Subj: Re: Video wrong at boot desktop, how fix?

From: [e-mail] (Lorne Sunley)

On Sat, 6 Nov 1999 04:11:51, [e-mail] wrote:

> Great Idea, except I tried it already 3 times. Each time the install
> refused to install the Savage drivers because the video chip wasnt the
> right one. ( It was the plain generic VGA chip )

This is the last thing I can think of suggesting. Change the
monitor to some generic no-name kind of VGA monitor,
program the Savage4 to standard VGA, install the drivers
and, after that, change back to your own monitor, and
re-program the card to the higher frequency.

AFAIK the VGA drivers must be initializing the card to the
standard VGA video mode. This would imply the 31.5 Khz
frequency. So the only thing you can do is use a monitor
that will work at that frequency.

Lorne Sunley

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From: [e-mail]                              05-Nov-99 21:36:18
  To: All                                               06-Nov-99 03:33:25
Subj: Embedded OS/2 system

From: "Joseph Fletcher III" <[e-mail]>

I am trying to create an embedded system that uses OS/2 as an operating
system.  Although IBM states that a high percentage of ATM machines and
other embedded systems use OS/2, I haven't been able to run (boot up) OS/2
on a system where the video hardware has been removed.

I am using a AMPRO platform CoreModule/4DXi which as BIOS created for use as
an embedded system - so I don't think that the problem is in the POST
routine.  I believe the the system is crapping out somewhere during the
processing of the config.sys, but since the file is processed
"non-linearly" I'm not sure where the problem device driver is.  Could it be
the PM itself that has a problem starting in the "headless" configuration.

Any ideas?

Joe



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From: [e-mail]                           06-Nov-99 14:45:05
  To: All                                               06-Nov-99 03:33:25
Subj: Unable to run any TCPIP program

From: "Yuk Lun Chan" <[e-mail]>

Hello,

I have installed the basic Warp 4.0 frist before installing TCP/IP service
in my box (I always has problem when install the basic system and TCP/IP in
the same time). I have all the program icon as usual. But when I try to run
anyone of these TCP/IP program, it always prompt for incorrect path. Then I
try to run them from the OS/2 command prompt. An error says that it cannot
find SETLOC1. I want to know what is this and how can I install it from the
CD.

Thank you very much!

Yuk Lun Chan


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  To: All                                               06-Nov-99 05:25:28
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From: [e-mail]                        06-Nov-99 11:04:03
  To: All                                               06-Nov-99 10:27:24
Subj: Re: Need new tape backup

From: [e-mail] (John Poltorak)

In <[e-mail]>, Charles Christacopoulos
<[e-mail]> writes:
>"Camilla Cracchiolo (Camilla Cracchiolo, R.N.)" wrote:
>>
>> I have to get a new tape drive.
>Check http://www.cristie.com/
>I am looking to purchase one of their drives (admittedly a large
>autoloader) and they may be willing to bundle their backup software for
>os/2.  Well if you ask them nicely they will as they seem to bundle the
>Win95 crap with them.

I've been asking Cristie if they will be providing OS/2 drivers for the
Onstream
30/50 GB tape drives, and they hope to have something available in a month
or two. These drives seem too good to be true, pricewise, - no idea on
reliability though...

>--
>Remove REMOVE_ME to reply.
>-------------------------------------------------------------------
>Charles Christacopoulos, Secretary's Office, University of Dundee,
>Dundee DD1 4HN, (Scotland) United Kingdom.
>Tel: +44+(0)1382-344891. Fax: +44+(0)1382-201604.
>http://somis.ais.dundee.ac.uk/    (runs on OS/2)
>Scottish Search Maestro http://somis2.ais.dundee.ac.uk/ (runs on OS/2
>too)
--
John

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From: [e-mail]                           06-Nov-99 14:40:28
  To: All                                               06-Nov-99 14:36:00
Subj: Re: Unable to run any TCPIP program

From: [e-mail] (Lorne Sunley)

On Sat, 6 Nov 1999 06:45:11, "Yuk Lun Chan" <[e-mail]>
wrote:

> Hello,
>
> I have installed the basic Warp 4.0 frist before installing TCP/IP service
> in my box (I always has problem when install the basic system and TCP/IP in
> the same time). I have all the program icon as usual. But when I try to run
> anyone of these TCP/IP program, it always prompt for incorrect path. Then I
> try to run them from the OS/2 command prompt. An error says that it cannot
> find SETLOC1. I want to know what is this and how can I install it from the
> CD.
>

SETLOC1.DLL is part of the I18 code that is installed by
MPTS (Multiple Protocol Transport Services) that includes
the TCP/IP stack and NETBIOS protocols.

You have to install MPTS for this, then install the TCP/IP
code.

Lorne Sunley

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From: [e-mail]                      06-Nov-99 13:58:05
  To: All                                               06-Nov-99 14:36:00
Subj: Re: Embedded OS/2 system

From: [e-mail]       (John Thompson)

In <800en8$13lg$[e-mail]>, "Joseph Fletcher III"
<[e-mail]> writes:

>I am trying to create an embedded system that uses OS/2 as an operating
>system.  Although IBM states that a high percentage of ATM machines and
>other embedded systems use OS/2, I haven't been able to run (boot up) OS/2
>on a system where the video hardware has been removed.

IIRC, the embedded OS/2 used on ATM's is based on OS/2 v1.x and
does not include the presentation manager.

>I am using a AMPRO platform CoreModule/4DXi which as BIOS created for use as
>an embedded system - so I don't think that the problem is in the POST
>routine.  I believe the the system is crapping out somewhere during the
>processing of the config.sys, but since the file is processed
>"non-linearly" I'm not sure where the problem device driver is.  Could it be
>the PM itself that has a problem starting in the "headless" configuration.
>
>Any ideas?

Can you use the "Alt-F2" keypress at boot time to display the
drivers as they load?





-John ([e-mail])

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From: [e-mail]                           07-Nov-99 00:08:11
  To: All                                               06-Nov-99 14:36:00
Subj: Re: Embedded OS/2 system

From: "Yuk Lun Chan" <[e-mail]>

I remember you can modify config.sys so that the shell become cmd.exe (or
whatever such as 4OS2 etc) instead of PMSHELL or WPS. But I think some more
driver needed to remove from the file as well. I used to disable the PM in
V1.2

Regards,

Yuk Lun Chan
Phillip Davenport <[e-mail]> wrote in message
news:MfVU3.2637$[e-mail]...
> Joseph Fletcher III <[e-mail]> wrote:
> > I am trying to create an embedded system that uses OS/2 as an operating
> > system.  Although IBM states that a high percentage of ATM machines and
> > other embedded systems use OS/2, I haven't been able to run (boot up)
OS/2
> > on a system where the video hardware has been removed.
>
> PM requires a graphics adapter. No graphics, no PM..
>
> SessionManager has some nasty assumptions about keyboards, too..
>
> Look into BOOTOS2, and perhaps TSHELL. Both are EWS.
>
>   p
>


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From: [e-mail]                        06-Nov-99 17:11:24
  To: All                                               06-Nov-99 14:36:00
Subj: Re: Embedded OS/2 system

From: [e-mail] (John Poltorak)

In <c1.2c.2SpkYv$1Vn@rhino_house.attglobal.net>, [e-mail]
     (John Thompson) writes:
>In <800en8$13lg$[e-mail]>, "Joseph Fletcher III"
<[e-mail]> writes:
>
>>I am trying to create an embedded system that uses OS/2 as an operating
>>system.  Although IBM states that a high percentage of ATM machines and
>>other embedded systems use OS/2, I haven't been able to run (boot up) OS/2
>>on a system where the video hardware has been removed.
>
>IIRC, the embedded OS/2 used on ATM's is based on OS/2 v1.x and
>does not include the presentation manager.

PM was introduced with OS/2 v1.1

>
>-John ([e-mail])
>
--
John

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From: [e-mail]                                 06-Nov-99 17:46:26
  To: All                                               06-Nov-99 16:43:23
Subj: Re: Need new tape backup

From: "Steve Snyder" <[e-mail]>

On Sat, 06 Nov 1999 17:37:50 GMT, Stephen Eickhoff (remove the - to reply)
wrote:
>"Camilla Cracchiolo (Camilla Cracchiolo, R.N.)" wrote:
[snip]
>> I'm considering a Seagate SCSI 8 Gig backup.  Anyone here have
>> experience with this drive?  Also, I'm currently using Backmaster.
>> Will it support this tape drive or do I have to get BackAgain/2?
>>
>> Please send me an e-mail copy of any replies you post to the
>> newsgroup.
>
>I have the ST8000N and use it with Novaback. It works great, I usually get
>about 38MB/min
>with it. You MUST get a cleaner kit, though, and use it every few backups. I
>let my drive get dirty and had to use three swabs on it just to do a full
>restore.

I too have a ST8000N which I use with Seagate's Backup Exec.  As
noted above, this drive is fast.  I'm very happy with it.


***** Steve Snyder *****



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From: doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net                     06-Nov-99 17:20:27
  To: All                                               06-Nov-99 16:43:23
Subj: Re: Embedded OS/2 system

From: doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net (Doug Bissett)

On Sat, 6 Nov 1999 05:36:36, "Joseph Fletcher III"
<[e-mail]> wrote:

> I am trying to create an embedded system that uses OS/2 as an operating
> system.  Although IBM states that a high percentage of ATM machines and
> other embedded systems use OS/2, I haven't been able to run (boot up) OS/2
> on a system where the video hardware has been removed.
>
> I am using a AMPRO platform CoreModule/4DXi which as BIOS created for use as
> an embedded system - so I don't think that the problem is in the POST
> routine.  I believe the the system is crapping out somewhere during the
> processing of the config.sys, but since the file is processed
> "non-linearly" I'm not sure where the problem device driver is.  Could it be
> the PM itself that has a problem starting in the "headless" configuration.
>
> Any ideas?
>
> Joe
>

ATM's have a video system, and I have never seen one that even looks
like it might be using the Presentation Manager, or the Workplace
Shell. They just boot to the command line, and run a program, which
handles the video etc.  I suspect that most embedded systems don't use
PM, or WPS, just to avoid the overhead, and potential problems, of the
GUI interface.

I believe, you will need to have a video adapter (a fairly basic
<cheap> one, should do), running in VGA mode, possibly with the BIOS
set to run without a display attached (same for keyboard, if that
applies).

Hope this helps...
******************************
From the PC of Doug Bissett
doug.bissett at attglobal.net
The " at " must be changed to "@"
******************************

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From: [e-mail]                              06-Nov-99 17:37:25
  To: All                                               06-Nov-99 16:43:23
Subj: Re: Need new tape backup

From: "Stephen Eickhoff (remove the - to reply)" <[e-mail]>

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"Camilla Cracchiolo (Camilla Cracchiolo, R.N.)" wrote:

> I have to get a new tape drive.  I've got a HP Traven T-3000.
>
> I'd like to get away from HP products altogether.  They have great
> tech support, but I suspect that's because their products die so
> often.  (Long history of failures here).
>
> I'm considering a Seagate SCSI 8 Gig backup.  Anyone here have
> experience with this drive?  Also, I'm currently using Backmaster.
> Will it support this tape drive or do I have to get BackAgain/2?
>
> Please send me an e-mail copy of any replies you post to the
> newsgroup.

I have the ST8000N and use it with Novaback. It works great, I usually get
about 38MB/min
with it. You MUST get a cleaner kit, though, and use it every few backups. I
let my drive get dirty and had to use three swabs on it just to do a full
restore.

Backmaster 2 should support the drive, but I dumped them a while ago because
the program
was so slow. Novaback is nice because they include Windows and OS/2 versions
in the same box.

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          Havertown, PA
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From: [e-mail]                              06-Nov-99 14:58:26
  To: All                                               06-Nov-99 16:43:23
Subj: Cable Modem Login?

From: Jon <[e-mail]>

I will have my cable modem installed this week, and I know about
configuring the TCP/IP and my NIC, but what do you do about
network login? My cable company uses the RRmanager login
program on Win98. Do I need a login program of some type on
OS/2 or will it function without it?

Jon Cleveland

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From: [e-mail]                              06-Nov-99 21:53:15
  To: All                                               06-Nov-99 20:02:24
Subj: Re: Need new tape backup

From: James Moe <[e-mail]>


Steve Snyder wrote:
>
>
> I too have a ST8000N which I use with Seagate's Backup Exec.
>
    You do? I thought Seagate dropped os/2 support. The STT8000N came
out long after they stopped updating their os/2 program.

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From: [e-mail]                        06-Nov-99 22:53:01
  To: All                                               06-Nov-99 20:02:25
Subj: Re: Unable to run any TCPIP program

From: [e-mail] (John Poltorak)

In <qpkdVVNoMoTk-pn2-dzNQnPdBKYQY@tcpserver>, [e-mail] (Lorne
Sunley) writes:
>On Sat, 6 Nov 1999 06:45:11, "Yuk Lun Chan" <[e-mail]>
>wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> I have installed the basic Warp 4.0 frist before installing TCP/IP service
>> in my box (I always has problem when install the basic system and TCP/IP in
>> the same time). I have all the program icon as usual. But when I try to run
>> anyone of these TCP/IP program, it always prompt for incorrect path. Then I
>> try to run them from the OS/2 command prompt. An error says that it cannot
>> find SETLOC1. I want to know what is this and how can I install it from the
>> CD.
>>
>
>SETLOC1.DLL is part of the I18 code that is installed by

Always wondered what I18 was all about.

Guess it's some ANSI standard about national customisation put together
in room I 18  somewhere...


>MPTS (Multiple Protocol Transport Services) that includes
>the TCP/IP stack and NETBIOS protocols.
>
>You have to install MPTS for this, then install the TCP/IP
>code.
>
>Lorne Sunley
>
--
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From: [e-mail]                                 07-Nov-99 02:07:16
  To: All                                               07-Nov-99 03:28:17
Subj: Re: Need new tape backup

From: "Steve Snyder" <[e-mail]>

On Sat, 06 Nov 1999 21:53:30 GMT, James Moe wrote:

>Steve Snyder wrote:
>>
>>
>> I too have a ST8000N which I use with Seagate's Backup Exec.
>>
>    You do? I thought Seagate dropped os/2 support. The STT8000N came
>out long after they stopped updating their os/2 program.

Maybe the STT8000N is compatible with some drive that is officially
supported.  In any case, Seagate Backup Exec v3.0 (file dates
are 10/31/96) *does* work with that tape drive.


***** Steve Snyder *****



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From: [e-mail]                              07-Nov-99 01:06:10
  To: All                                               07-Nov-99 03:28:17
Subj: Re: Laptop Installation problems

From: [e-mail]

In article
<3823835d$5$lllp186.vyyrtnygbfcnz$[e-mail]>,
  yyyc186.illegaltospam.at.flashcom.net wrote:
> In <[e-mail]>, on 11/05/99
>    at 07:02 PM, Dick Sidbury <[e-mail]> said:
>
> Welcome to the wonderfull world of IBM LS-120 support.
>
> You CAN'T BOOT FROM IT as drive A.
>
> If you don't have a floppy drive to use as drive A, then
consider yourself
> screwed.
>
This is not universally true. My system has an LS-120 as drive
A with no real floppies installed, and I was able to install
Warp4 and can quite happily boot from an LS-120 disk created by
BOOTOS2. I did have problems with the install until I read a
post that said that the "BASEDEV=IBMATAPI.FLT" statement had to
be the last device statement in config.sys. When I made that
change, the install proceeded without problems. I have no idea
why this should make a difference, but it did in my case.

All that's left on my wishlist for the LS-120 is for the
restriction on creating PM or WPS setups with BOOTOS2 on drive
A be relaxed ( Ken? ).


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From: [e-mail]                                06-Nov-99 20:45:08
  To: All                                               07-Nov-99 03:28:17
Subj: Where to get Java?

From: "Dan Kozisek" <[e-mail]>

Can someone direct me to where I can get JavaOs2? I recently did a re-install
and found that I did not archive the java code. I checked the IBM site and
could no longer find it. Any help appreciated.

                        Dan
                        [e-mail]


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From: [e-mail]                               07-Nov-99 05:46:23
  To: All                                               07-Nov-99 03:28:18
Subj: Re: Video wrong at boot desktop, how fix?

From: [e-mail]

In article <qpkdVVNoMoTk-pn2-BQfL3OdBHQdt@tcpserver>,
  [e-mail] (Lorne Sunley) wrote:
> This is the last thing I can think of suggesting. Change the
> monitor to some generic no-name kind of VGA monitor,
> program the Savage4 to standard VGA, install the drivers
> and, after that, change back to your own monitor, and
> re-program the card to the higher frequency.
>
> AFAIK the VGA drivers must be initializing the card to the
> standard VGA video mode. This would imply the 31.5 Khz
> frequency. So the only thing you can do is use a monitor
> that will work at that frequency.
>
I may have to resort to doing this again. The last time I tried this
method I got the card in a goofy condition and could not reflash it to
the savage mode and had to send back to Mfgr. It may have just been a
failure at the inoppertune time.  So..... a second try may work.  I'm
just not sure if I want to risk having to send it in again, yet.


Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.

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From: [e-mail]                          07-Nov-99 02:42:29
  To: All                                               07-Nov-99 05:18:09
Subj: Re: Daylight Saving Time Change

From: Ian_Campbell <[e-mail]>

Doug Bissett wrote:
>
> On Wed, 3 Nov 1999 22:14:30, [e-mail] (Richard
> Bumby) wrote:
>
> > Until I upgraded to Warp 4, I never had a TZ setting -- was it
> > introduced with Warp Connect?  Since OS/2 was designed as a
> > multitasking OS for a single-user workstation, it was reasonable for
> > it to assume that the clock was set to local time.  As the PC
> > becomes a port to the global computer, some way to manage two clocks
> > need to be agreed upon.
> >
>
> You can set the TZ variable, in DOS, Win9x and OS/2 (and, probably,
> more systems). It doesn't do anything, unless there is a program
> (including the operating system) that will look at it, and use it. So
> far, OS/2, DOS, and Win9x, don't make use of the variable (a grave
> error in judgment, IMO, but it was M$ who decided to do it the way it
> is done, and OS/2 just followed that lead). Any program that does make
> use of the TZ variable (news readers, e-mail programs, etc.), must
> make the assumption that the system clock is local time, or they would
> make an incorrect time offset calculation. Since the operating system
> will always assume that the system clock is local time, it is up to
> the individual programs to calculate any time offsets, and use that
> data correctly. The TZ variable, is the mechanism that was put in
> place (many years ago), to handle the "two clocks". Unfortunately, the
> "agreements" about how it works, have never been followed properly,
> and the operating systems have not been changed to make use of the
> variable.

This has been dealt with in Jonathan de Boyne Pollard's excellent
OS2CLU02.ZIP
(on Hobbes and LEO). I quote from the excellent documentation:

"Here are some of the main features of the OS/2 Command Line Utilities.

  Date and time support is fully internationalised.  All of the
utilities that display dates and times do so by
       default using the date and time formats appropriate to the
current country , but they can also be told to display
       them in the standard format specified by ISO standard number
8601, which uses a full 4-digit year and a fixed
       descending order of fields to avoid the ambiguity that the
country-specific formats have for the first 31 years
       of each century (e.g. 01/02/03).

      Full timezone support is provided using the TZ environment
variable, which is in the standard POSIX 1003.1
       (ISO/IEC 9445-1:1990) format, allowing multiple utilities to
operate simultaneously in different timezones with
       different daylight savings time rules, which are applied
automatically at exactly the right point without need for
       user intervention.

       The local time, required by the ANACLOCK, DIGCLOCK, SAYDATE,
SETDATE, and TOUCH commands, can be
       configured to be in any arbitrary timezone and use any daylight
savings time rules."

I am using the time utility and can report that it works as advertised.
My rollover at October 31 occurred without intervention and the next
correction I ran with Time868
showed a correction of 8 seconds which is about my usual time loss in 24
hours.

I have not had the time to play with the balance of this package much
but it seems to be of a uniform high quality.

Regards

Ian

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From: [e-mail]                                       07-Nov-99 12:43:11
  To: All                                               07-Nov-99 10:20:14
Subj: Re: Lexmark Z51 Question

From: [e-mail] (Oliver Poggensee)

On Thu, 4 Nov 1999 00:56:43, [e-mail] wrote:

> My new Lexmark Z51 inkjet is exhibiting some weird behavior, and I am
> hopeful that someone else has run into/solved this problem, as it has me
> at a loss....
>
> When I try to print a word-processing document with a modest-sized
> graphic in it (56K), the spooler reports this single page document as being
> about ten times that size (560K) while it is processing.  On my most
> recent attempt, my swap file had grown by about 35MB (not a misprint) and
> was still growing after the printer had been processing this one-page file
> for over 40 minutes (again, not a misprint).
>
> It exhibits this behavior whether using the OS/2 driver or the Windows
> driver under Win-OS2.  It exhibits this behavior regardless of whether the
> app generating the file is OS/2-native or Windows software.  It only does
> this when trying to print a small, color graphic; it does just fine with
plain
> text in OS/2 and Win-OS2 applications (indeed, it does magnificently).  It
> churns a bit when producing grayscale graphics, but output is terrific.  The
> behavior occurs at all three of the selectable resolutions (600x600dpi
draft,
> 600x600dpi, and 1200x1200dpi--by the way, this last setting kicks ass on
> text files!).
>
> I bought this machine because its output looks super, and it offers *real*
> OS/2 drivers.  However, I really don't want to wait around for hours while
> it tries to print out a sheet of paper with one measly color image on it (if
> it doesn't crash the system first by swamping the swap file)....
>
> I have emailed Lexmark tech support, but my experience has been that I'll
get
> faster (and, often, more amusing) answers around here.... ;-)
>
> Anyone else having this problem?
>

What kind of graphic format have you use? I have had the same problem
as you with uncompressed or not so good compressed graphic formats
like Tiff, Targa or Bitmap. If I use a good compressed graphics format
like jpeg, gif or png the print is done very fast. I think the print
time is depentent from the graphic file size.
I have the problems only if I print text documents with graphics, if I
print graphics only I have no problems.


---------------------------
Oliver Poggensee
OS/2 Config.sys Documentation Project
http://www.opweb.de

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From: [e-mail]                                 07-Nov-99 07:52:00
  To: All                                               07-Nov-99 10:20:14
Subj: Re: Where to get Java?

From: [e-mail]

In <[e-mail]>, on 11/06/99
   at 08:45 PM, "Dan Kozisek" <[e-mail]> said:

>Can someone direct me to where I can get JavaOs2? I recently did a
>re-install  and found that I did not archive the java code. I checked the
>IBM site and  could no longer find it. Any help appreciated.

>                        Dan
>                        [e-mail]



http://service.boulder.ibm.com/asd-bin/doc/en_us/catalog.htm

Later,
Nick




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From: [e-mail]                     07-Nov-99 13:03:02
  To: All                                               07-Nov-99 10:20:14
Subj: Re: Unable to run any TCPIP program

From: Phillip Davenport <[e-mail]>

John Poltorak <[e-mail]> wrote:
> In <qpkdVVNoMoTk-pn2-dzNQnPdBKYQY@tcpserver>, [e-mail] (Lorne
Sunley) writes:
>>On Sat, 6 Nov 1999 06:45:11, "Yuk Lun Chan" <[e-mail]>
>>wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> ... cannot find SETLOC1. I want to know what is this and how can I
install it from the
>>> CD.
>>>
>>
>>SETLOC1.DLL is part of the I18 code that is installed by

> Always wondered what I18 was all about.

INTERNATIONALIZATION - I18N.. A rather odd convention, yes.

  p

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From: [e-mail]                       08-Nov-99 00:02:12
  To: All                                               07-Nov-99 10:20:14
Subj: Re: Embedded OS/2 system

From: [e-mail] (Christopher McRae)

In article <SKfw30zmCGmZ-pn2-F9EBMddfULdP@localhost>,
Doug Bissett <doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net> wrote:
>On Sat, 6 Nov 1999 05:36:36, "Joseph Fletcher III"
><[e-mail]> wrote:
>
>> I am trying to create an embedded system that uses OS/2 as an operating
>> system.  Although IBM states that a high percentage of ATM machines and
>> other embedded systems use OS/2, I haven't been able to run (boot up) OS/2
>> on a system where the video hardware has been removed.

Yes, it is eminantly possible. I have built several embedded OS/2 systems that
are sans video system (all output going to LCD screen via parallel port.).
 Simply replace the PROTSHELL in the config.sys with PROTSHELL=<Your program>.

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From: [e-mail]                                  07-Nov-99 13:35:02
  To: All                                               07-Nov-99 15:15:21
Subj: Re: Cable Modem Login?

From: [e-mail] (Duncan Way)

On Sat, 6 Nov 1999 19:58:53, Jon <[e-mail]> wrote:

# I will have my cable modem installed this week, and I know about
# configuring the TCP/IP and my NIC, but what do you do about
# network login? My cable company uses the RRmanager login
# program on Win98. Do I need a login program of some type on
# OS/2 or will it function without it?
#
# Jon Cleveland
#

I use RoadRunner and am automatically connected as soon as I power up.
I only have to login for account setup.
Check  "http://Larkin.NuclearWinter.com/rros2/ "  for login programs
for os/2.
If you can't find them, email me and I'll send them to you.

Duncan Way


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From: [e-mail]                            07-Nov-99 15:50:15
  To: All                                               07-Nov-99 15:15:21
Subj: Re: Embedded OS/2 system

From: [e-mail] (Lee Riemenschneider)

On Sat, 6 Nov 1999 13:58:11, [e-mail]       (John
Thompson) wrote:
> IIRC, the embedded OS/2 used on ATM's is based on OS/2 v1.x and
> does not include the presentation manager.
>
I thought they changed that to the 4.x base a year or two ago for Y2k
reasons.  ???

Lee W. Riemenschneider
Die Hard Purdue Fan!
OS/2 User and Supporter

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From: [e-mail]                                07-Nov-99 08:48:20
  To: All                                               07-Nov-99 15:15:21
Subj: Re: Where to get Java?

From: "Dan Kozisek" <[e-mail]>

On Sun, 07 Nov 1999 07:52:01 -0500, [e-mail] wrote:

>In <[e-mail]>, on 11/06/99
>   at 08:45 PM, "Dan Kozisek" <[e-mail]> said:
>
>>Can someone direct me to where I can get JavaOs2? I recently did a
>>re-install  and found that I did not archive the java code. I checked the
>>IBM site and  could no longer find it. Any help appreciated.
>
>>                        Dan
>>                        [e-mail]
>
>
>
>http://service.boulder.ibm.com/asd-bin/doc/en_us/catalog.htm
>
>Later,
>Nick
>
Thank you, but I already looked there. No joy. Any other takers?


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From: [e-mail]                           07-Nov-99 17:35:12
  To: All                                               07-Nov-99 15:15:22
Subj: Warp4 fix pack

From: Gianpaolo Vannetti <[e-mail]>

Help !.

I've tried installing the fix pack number 9 for Warp 4 version UK using
service.exe on a freshly installed OS but I get the message no products
to service.

Is this possible. How do I get around this.


Thanks for any advice

Gianpaolo

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From: [e-mail]@Vi...               07-Nov-99 19:01:17
  To: All                                               07-Nov-99 15:15:22
Subj: Re: Where to get Java?

Message sender: [e-mail]@Videotron.ca

From: [e-mail]@Videotron.ca (Michel A Goyette)

Sun, 7 Nov 1999 16:48:41, "Dan Kozisek" <[e-mail]> a écrit:

> On Sun, 07 Nov 1999 07:52:01 -0500, [e-mail] wrote:
>
> >In <[e-mail]>, on 11/06/99
> >   at 08:45 PM, "Dan Kozisek" <[e-mail]> said:
> >
> >>Can someone direct me to where I can get JavaOs2? I recently did a
> >>re-install  and found that I did not archive the java code. I checked the
> >>IBM site and  could no longer find it. Any help appreciated.
> >
> >http://service.boulder.ibm.com/asd-bin/doc/en_us/catalog.htm

> Thank you, but I already looked there. No joy. Any other takers?

    Well, it is there.  It is label as "IBM OS/2 Warp Developer Kit,
Java(TM) Technology Edition, Version 1.1.8" in the free part.

Salut,

    Michel (sur OS/2 Warp 4.07)
    ICQ #13376913
    http://pages.infinit.net/exovede

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From: doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net                     07-Nov-99 19:09:15
  To: All                                               07-Nov-99 15:15:22
Subj: Re: Daylight Saving Time Change

From: doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net (Doug Bissett)

On Sun, 7 Nov 1999 02:42:58, Ian_Campbell <[e-mail]>
wrote:

> I am using the time utility and can report that it works as advertised.
> My rollover at October 31 occurred without intervention and the next
> correction I ran with Time868
> showed a correction of 8 seconds which is about my usual time loss in 24
> hours.
>
> I have not had the time to play with the balance of this package much
> but it seems to be of a uniform high quality.
>
> Regards
>
> Ian
>

I have looked at this, but did not get too far into it.

Question: When you use this package, with the clock set to UCT (GMT),
I understand that the OS2CLU programs use the time ofset etc., but
what time is returned to other programs (Word processors, database
etc.)?

Thanks...
******************************
From the PC of Doug Bissett
doug.bissett at attglobal.net
The " at " must be changed to "@"
******************************

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From: doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net                     07-Nov-99 19:13:27
  To: All                                               07-Nov-99 20:07:02
Subj: Re: Where to get Java?

From: doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net (Doug Bissett)

On Sun, 7 Nov 1999 16:48:41, "Dan Kozisek" <[e-mail]> wrote:

> On Sun, 07 Nov 1999 07:52:01 -0500, [e-mail] wrote:
>
> >In <[e-mail]>, on 11/06/99
> >   at 08:45 PM, "Dan Kozisek" <[e-mail]> said:
> >
> >>Can someone direct me to where I can get JavaOs2? I recently did a
> >>re-install  and found that I did not archive the java code. I checked the
> >>IBM site and  could no longer find it. Any help appreciated.
> >
> >>                        Dan
> >>                        [e-mail]
> >
> >
> >
> >http://service.boulder.ibm.com/asd-bin/doc/en_us/catalog.htm
> >
> >Later,
> >Nick
> >
> Thank you, but I already looked there. No joy. Any other takers?
>
>

Just looked. It IS there, along with the Feature installer 1.25,
required to install it. It is under the "IBM OS/2 Warp Develper Kit,
Java(TM) Technology Edition, Version 1.1.8"  heading. You only need
the runtime part, unless you are planning to develop JAVA programs.

Hope this helps...
******************************
From the PC of Doug Bissett
doug.bissett at attglobal.net
The " at " must be changed to "@"
******************************

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From: [e-mail]                                    07-Nov-99 14:53:11
  To: All                                               07-Nov-99 20:07:02
Subj: Re: Where to get Java?

From: [e-mail] (Dan Casey)

In article <[e-mail]>,
"Dan Kozisek" <[e-mail]> wrote:
>On Sun, 07 Nov 1999 07:52:01 -0500, [e-mail] wrote:
>
>>In <[e-mail]>, on 11/06/99
>>   at 08:45 PM, "Dan Kozisek" <[e-mail]> said:
>>
>>>Can someone direct me to where I can get JavaOs2? I recently did a
>>>re-install  and found that I did not archive the java code. I checked the
>>>IBM site and  could no longer find it. Any help appreciated.
>>
>>>                                             Dan
>>>                                             [e-mail]
>>
>>
>>
>>http://service.boulder.ibm.com/asd-bin/doc/en_us/catalog.htm
>>
>>Later,
>>Nick
>>
>Thank you, but I already looked there. No joy. Any other takers?

Try looking again :-)

http://service.boulder.ibm.com/asd-bin/doc/en_us/java/f-feat.htm is
the link from Software Choice as the IBM OS/2 Warp
Developer Kit, Java(TM) Technology Edition, Version 1.1.8


--
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*  President                                                 *
*  V.O.I.C.E. (Virtual OS/2 International Consumer Education *
*  http://www.os2voice.org                                   *
*  Abraxas on IRC                                            *
*  http://members.iquest.net/~dcasey                         *
*  Charter Associate member, Team SETI                       *
*  Warpstock 99 in Atlanta  http://www.warpstock.org         *
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From: [e-mail]                          07-Nov-99 21:10:16
  To: All                                               07-Nov-99 20:07:02
Subj: Re: OS/2 Warp Boot Diskettes And Novell Netware

From: "barney" <[e-mail]>

Solved the problem anyway by making sure that the NIC adapter driver was
bound first this ensures that the MAC address is used by the other drivers.
Anything else that binds with this driver also uses the MAC address.

barney wrote in message <7vgolb$c9p$[e-mail]>...
>The ring speed and card were verified using Lanaid.
>
>I took the advice of Meinolf and have now got ODI2NDI talking to the ring
>using IPX only. The only problem I really have now is that I would like to
>use the MAC Address on the cards rather than a specific Netaddress.
>When you configure Netware Requester and IEE8.02 using MPTS ( old LAPS) and
>leave the Netaddress field
>blank it defaults to FFFFFFFFFFFF and obviously will not insert into the
>ring.
>
>I have looked on various sites including IBM/NOVELL/MADGE etc to no avail.
>If you can help then that would be excellent. If not then my thanks for
>getting me this far.
>
>Cheers
>
>barney wrote in message <7vae4j$h4$[e-mail]>...
>>I have just recently built warp boot diskettes. In this case I have
managed
>>to get the boot diskettes to be netware aware. The problem is that on boot
>>when loading the Token.sys( IBM ISA Adapter Auto 16/4 Card ) it will only
>>connect at a ring speed of 4meg. This is despite the fact that the ring is
>>running at 16meg.
>>I forgot to mention that there are only two diskettes in the boot
sequence.
>>
>>I am running Warp 4 fixpak 10 with Novell requester 4.2 with OS2PT1 as the
>>latest patch.  Any ideas ?
>>
>>Cheers
>>
>>
>
>


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From: [e-mail]                               07-Nov-99 14:05:14
  To: All                                               07-Nov-99 20:07:02
Subj: Re: Where to get Java?

From: [e-mail](Fritz Oppliger)

In <SKfw30zmCGmZ-pn2-GnqmFxKJSErI@localhost>, on 11/07/99
   at 07:13 PM, doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net (Doug Bissett) said:


>It is under the "IBM OS/2 Warp Develper Kit,
>Java(TM) Technology Edition, Version 1.1.8"  heading. You only need  the
>runtime part, unless you are planning to develop JAVA programs.


oh! 20 megs to just run Java?
Also, who or what is doing the java job now? without downloading that
thing? Inotherwords how can I find out if any Java is brewing on my
system, and what version it might be? what is netscape talking about when
it says "unsupported Java version" ? could it have snuck in with a fixpak?
Or is there a micro java plugin to netscape?  do I have my terms scrambled
again 8/) ?

[e-mail](Fritz Oppliger) KE6VDA

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From: [e-mail]                                 07-Nov-99 17:11:12
  To: All                                               07-Nov-99 21:28:08
Subj: DRM-602X on OS/2

From: Sam Lewis <[e-mail]>

Does anyone know how to get a Pioneer
DRM-602X Disk Changer to work on OS/2 Warp
4?  I got the SCSI card and drive installed
and OS/2 recognizes it but it only see's the
first CD and not the other 5.
Thanks,
Sam
[e-mail]



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From: [e-mail]                                05-Nov-99 03:05:17
  To: All                                               07-Nov-99 21:28:08
Subj: Warp 4.0 install tactics

From: [e-mail] (User)

Hi all. I need help with Warp 4.0 and its installer. I D/L'ed the
latest device driver from IBM's Device Driver site to update the
install floppies so that they recognize hard drives bigger than 8 Gb.
Now my 6.4 Gb hard drive looks like this:-

PARTITION 1:        FAT16        DOS622    830Mb
PARTITION 2:        FAT32        WIN 98        2.0GB

6X CD-ROM    Primary Master
6.4Gb HDD    Secondary Master
LS-120 FDD    Primary Slave (as yet not connected)

The rest of the 3.0Gb-something freespace is idle. My question is
this; does Warp have to installed first (i.e in the first 1Gb of the
drive) because of the 1024 cylinder limit? Or can it be anywhere in
the freespace of the drive? I was told by a few others that Warp needs
to be in the first gig of hard drive space. Also, can the partition
where Warp is installed be bigger than 1Gb or what? That's my other
query. I'm asking all of this because I've been tearing my hair out
trying to get Warp installed. A few others have done it successfully,
so what's the deal with me? If anyone can assist me, offer some sane
advice or a copy of their Warp 4.0 install floppies , I would be
extremely grateful. Thanks all for reading. CYA!!!

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From: [e-mail]                07-Nov-99 22:02:09
  To: All                                               07-Nov-99 21:28:08
Subj: Unable to run any TCPIP program

From: [e-mail]

Hello Lorne.

06 Nov 99 14:40, Lorne Sunley wrote to All:

 >>
 >> I have installed the basic Warp 4.0 frist before installing
 TCP/IP
 >> service in my box (I always has problem when install the basic
 >> system and TCP/IP in the same time). I have all the program icon
 as
 >> usual. But when I try to run anyone of these TCP/IP program, it
 >> always prompt for incorrect path. Then I try to run them from the
 >> OS/2 command prompt. An error says that it cannot find SETLOC1. I
 >> want to know what is this and how can I install it from the CD.

I have had this problem before: it usually was usually the result of
 a bad or problem install.

With out re-installing here is what I did.

1. Checked to see if the if SETLOC1.dll is/was on the system, if it
 was then the problem is in the config.sys, the directory where
 SETLOC1.dll resides is not in the path specified by set libpath=.

Add it to the SET LIBPATH=, I believe it was x:\TCPIP\DLL, I am not
 at the OS/2 machine right now.

2. If the dll does not exist on the system, then you will have to
 add/install TCPIP.

This can be done by getting out the CD and from the CD run "install"
 or setup". This will bring up the networking and TCPIP installation
 program.

From here its fairly straight forward, just pick the options you want
 and the rest will done/installed for you.

This PROBLEM of not finding SETLOC1.dll used to happen frequently
 when I was still using my old 486 and I had to re-install OS/2
 because of a drive crash and the install would go bad.

 LS> SETLOC1.DLL is part of the I18 code that is installed by
 LS> MPTS (Multiple Protocol Transport Services) that includes
 LS> the TCP/IP stack and NETBIOS protocols.

 LS> You have to install MPTS for this, then install the TCP/IP
 LS> code.


Derek


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From: [e-mail]                                07-Nov-99 17:32:01
  To: All                                               07-Nov-99 21:28:08
Subj: Re: Where to get Java?

From: "Dan Kozisek" <[e-mail]>

On Sun, 07 Nov 1999 19:01:34 GMT, Michel A Goyette wrote:

>Sun, 7 Nov 1999 16:48:41, "Dan Kozisek" <[e-mail]> a ┌crit:
>
>> On Sun, 07 Nov 1999 07:52:01 -0500, [e-mail] wrote:
>>
>> >In <[e-mail]>, on
11/06/99
>> >   at 08:45 PM, "Dan Kozisek" <[e-mail]> said:
>> >
>> >>Can someone direct me to where I can get JavaOs2? I recently did a
>> >>re-install  and found that I did not archive the java code. I checked the
>> >>IBM site and  could no longer find it. Any help appreciated.
>> >
>> >http://service.boulder.ibm.com/asd-bin/doc/en_us/catalog.htm
>
>> Thank you, but I already looked there. No joy. Any other takers?
>
>    Well, it is there.  It is label as "IBM OS/2 Warp Developer Kit,
>Java(TM) Technology Edition, Version 1.1.8" in the free part.
>
>Salut,
>
>    Michel (sur OS/2 Warp 4.07)
>    ICQ #13376913
>    http://pages.infinit.net/exovede

My mistake. I did not think to look at the developer toolkit as I am not
interested in coding in JAVA. Thank you all for your help.


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From: [e-mail]                             08-Nov-99 14:02:23
  To: All                                               08-Nov-99 03:40:17
Subj: Win-OS/2 Print Manager Starts Automatically with Win-OS/2 - WHY?

From: "Christopher E. Souter" <[e-mail]>

Hi,everyone!

Does anyone know why Print Manager starts automatically
when Win-OS/2 starts up?

I have looked in all the usual places, such as the
StartUp group, the "load= " line in the WIN.INI file,
the SYSTEM.INI file, the PROGMAN.INI and the
CONTROL.INI files.

Print Manager is *NOT* in my StartUp group, and there
is *DEFINITELY* no reference to it in any of the
above-mentioned files.

Can anyone tell me what is causing it to start up every
time Win-OS/2 starts, and how I can stop it?

I am using a Windows printer driver which does not use
Print Manager, and I want to avoid conflicts.

I am using OS/2 Warp 4 (FullPack), with FixPak 9, but
this problem has existed since I installed Warp , i.e.,
before any FixPaks were applied.

Thanks in advance
Chris Souter
(Australia)
[e-mail]



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From: [e-mail]                             08-Nov-99 14:19:19
  To: All                                               08-Nov-99 03:40:17
Subj: True Type Fonts in Warp 4?  HOW???

From: "Christopher E. Souter" <[e-mail]>

Hi, everybody!

I recently upgraded from Warp 3 to Warp 4.

One reason why I did this is because I understood that,
among other things, Warp 4 is supposed to support True
Type fonts.

However, I have searched all the online documentation
and I just can't find any reference to True Type fonts
anywhere.

So, how do you install them?  Is it through the Font
Palette?  Where do you find the True Type Fonts in a
standard Warp 4 system?  How do you get the Font
Palette to recognise them?

Thenks in advance
Chris Souter
(Australia)
[e-mail]




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From: [e-mail]                                08-Nov-99 15:55:19
  To: All                                               08-Nov-99 03:40:17
Subj: Re: True Type Fonts in Warp 4?  HOW???

From: "Shane Baker" <[e-mail]>

On Mon, 08 Nov 1999 14:19:39 +1000, Christopher E. Souter wrote:

>I recently upgraded from Warp 3 to Warp 4.
>
>One reason why I did this is because I understood that,
>among other things, Warp 4 is supposed to support True
>Type fonts.
>
>However, I have searched all the online documentation
>and I just can't find any reference to True Type fonts
>anywhere.
>
>So, how do you install them?  Is it through the Font
>Palette?  Where do you find the True Type Fonts in a
>standard Warp 4 system?  How do you get the Font
>Palette to recognise them?

Font Pallette -> Edit Font -> Add  ..... and then select the fonts from the
source.

Regards

Shane Baker
Canberra - Australia's national capital
_____________________________
sbakerATpcug.org.au - please make the obvious change when replying
Australian Pets newsgroup - aus.pets  <<>>  Australian Dogs Page -
http://www.pcug.org.au/~sbaker/dogs.htm



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From: james.arnold@!!!usa.net                           08-Nov-99 03:31:20
  To: All                                               08-Nov-99 03:40:17
Subj: Re: Win-OS/2 Print Manager Starts Automatically with Win-OS/2 - WHY?

From: james.arnold@!!!usa.net

In <[e-mail]>, "Christopher E. Souter"
<[e-mail]> writes:
>Hi,everyone!
>
>Does anyone know why Print Manager starts automatically
>when Win-OS/2 starts up?
>
>I have looked in all the usual places, such as the
>StartUp group, the "load= " line in the WIN.INI file,
>the SYSTEM.INI file, the PROGMAN.INI and the
>CONTROL.INI files.
>
>Print Manager is *NOT* in my StartUp group, and there
>is *DEFINITELY* no reference to it in any of the
>above-mentioned files.
>
>Can anyone tell me what is causing it to start up every
>time Win-OS/2 starts, and how I can stop it?
>
>I am using a Windows printer driver which does not use
>Print Manager, and I want to avoid conflicts.
>
>I am using OS/2 Warp 4 (FullPack), with FixPak 9, but
>this problem has existed since I installed Warp , i.e.,
>before any FixPaks were applied.
>

        It is a "feature"!

        To stop the Win-OS/2 Print Manager forever add the following to
the "[boot]" section of system.ini:

        MAVDMAPPS=

        Once that is done you won't be bothered by Print Manager again.

        Jim

===========================================================================
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                                              ICQ:    9719182

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From: [e-mail]                              08-Nov-99 05:31:06
  To: All                                               08-Nov-99 03:40:17
Subj: Re: True Type Fonts in Warp 4?  HOW???

From: James Moe <[e-mail]>


"Christopher E. Souter" wrote:
>
> Hi, everybody!
>
> I recently upgraded from Warp 3 to Warp 4.
>
> One reason why I did this is because I understood that,
> among other things, Warp 4 is supposed to support True
> Type fonts.
>
> However, I have searched all the online documentation
> and I just can't find any reference to True Type fonts
> anywhere.
>
> So, how do you install them?  Is it through the Font
> Palette?
    Yes.

> Where do you find the True Type Fonts in a
> standard Warp 4 system?  How do you get the Font
> Palette to recognise them?
>
    Wherever they are stored. The first place to look is in
x:\OS2\MDOS\WINOS2\SYSTEM. Windows dumps averything there. In the future
copy the font files to someplace of your own choosing, say, \TRUETYPE.
    Open the Font Pallette, select Edit Font...->Add... . Type in the
path to the fonts.


--

sma at rtd dot com
Remove ".spam-not" for email

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From: [e-mail]                                   08-Nov-99 05:44:11
  To: All                                               08-Nov-99 03:40:17
Subj: Re: Win-OS/2 Print Manager Starts Automatically with Win-OS/2 - WHY?

From: Meinolf Sondermann <[e-mail]>


"Christopher E. Souter" wrote:
>
> Hi,everyone!
>
> Does anyone know why Print Manager starts automatically
> when Win-OS/2 starts up?
>

[....]

> Can anyone tell me what is causing it to start up every
> time Win-OS/2 starts,

No

> and how I can stop it?
>

Yes:
Add these two lines to the BOOT section of SYSTEM.INI

WAVDMAPPS=
MAVDMAPPS=

One of the both is already there, but I don't remember which.

[...]

> Thanks in advance

You're welcome

> Chris Souter
> (Australia)
> [e-mail]


Bye/2
Meinolf

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From: [e-mail]                          08-Nov-99 14:21:28
  To: All                                               08-Nov-99 03:40:17
Subj: Re: Win-OS/2 Print Manager Starts Automatically with Win-OS/2 - WHY?

From: "Wayne Bickell" <[e-mail]>

Here's something I saved from a previous thread of the same nature.
I've even left in the credit to the original poster :-)

:>in your \winos2\system.ini, add the line

:>MAVDMAPPS=

:>to the [Boot] section.  Print Manager will no longer open when you start
:<Win-OS/2.


:>Bill Pridgen
:>[e-mail]

:>Using OS/2 and PMINews

Cheers

Wayne



On Mon, 08 Nov 1999 14:02:46 +1000, Christopher E. Souter wrote:

:>Hi,everyone!
:>
:>Does anyone know why Print Manager starts automatically
:>when Win-OS/2 starts up?
:>
:>I have looked in all the usual places, such as the
:>StartUp group, the "load= " line in the WIN.INI file,
:>the SYSTEM.INI file, the PROGMAN.INI and the
:>CONTROL.INI files.
:>
:>Print Manager is *NOT* in my StartUp group, and there
:>is *DEFINITELY* no reference to it in any of the
:>above-mentioned files.
:>
:>Can anyone tell me what is causing it to start up every
:>time Win-OS/2 starts, and how I can stop it?
:>
:>I am using a Windows printer driver which does not use
:>Print Manager, and I want to avoid conflicts.
:>
:>I am using OS/2 Warp 4 (FullPack), with FixPak 9, but
:>this problem has existed since I installed Warp , i.e.,
:>before any FixPaks were applied.
:>
:>Thanks in advance
:>Chris Souter
:>(Australia)
:>[e-mail]
:>
:>
:>

******************************************************
Wayne Bickell
Tokyo, Japan
[e-mail]
******************************************************
           Posted with PMINews 2 for OS/2
  Running on OS/2 Warp 4 (UK)  + FixPak 9
******************************************************



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From: [e-mail]                             08-Nov-99 19:39:25
  To: All                                               08-Nov-99 05:18:18
Subj: Re: Win-OS/2 Print Manager Starts Automatically with Win-OS/2 - WHY?

From: "Christopher E. Souter" <[e-mail]>

Hi, everyone!

Thank you for the information!

It worked, and all is now OK!

Thank you for such quick replies!

Best regards
Chris Souter
(Australia)
[e-mail]


Wayne Bickell wrote:
>
> Here's something I saved from a previous thread of the same nature.
> I've even left in the credit to the original poster :-)
>
> :>in your \winos2\system.ini, add the line
>
> :>MAVDMAPPS=
>
> :>to the [Boot] section.  Print Manager will no longer open when you start
> :<Win-OS/2.
>
> :>Bill Pridgen
> :>[e-mail]
>
> :>Using OS/2 and PMINews
>
> Cheers
>
> Wayne
>
> On Mon, 08 Nov 1999 14:02:46 +1000, Christopher E. Souter wrote:
>
> :>Hi,everyone!
> :>
> :>Does anyone know why Print Manager starts automatically
> :>when Win-OS/2 starts up?
> :>
> :>I have looked in all the usual places, such as the
> :>StartUp group, the "load= " line in the WIN.INI file,
> :>the SYSTEM.INI file, the PROGMAN.INI and the
> :>CONTROL.INI files.
> :>
> :>Print Manager is *NOT* in my StartUp group, and there
> :>is *DEFINITELY* no reference to it in any of the
> :>above-mentioned files.
> :>
> :>Can anyone tell me what is causing it to start up every
> :>time Win-OS/2 starts, and how I can stop it?
> :>
> :>I am using a Windows printer driver which does not use
> :>Print Manager, and I want to avoid conflicts.
> :>
> :>I am using OS/2 Warp 4 (FullPack), with FixPak 9, but
> :>this problem has existed since I installed Warp , i.e.,
> :>before any FixPaks were applied.
> :>
> :>Thanks in advance
> :>Chris Souter
> :>(Australia)
> :>[e-mail]
> :>
> :>
> :>
>
> ******************************************************
> Wayne Bickell
> Tokyo, Japan
> [e-mail]
> ******************************************************
>            Posted with PMINews 2 for OS/2
>   Running on OS/2 Warp 4 (UK)  + FixPak 9
> ******************************************************

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From: [e-mail]                             08-Nov-99 19:41:17
  To: All                                               08-Nov-99 05:18:18
Subj: Re: True Type Fonts in Warp 4?  HOW???

From: "Christopher E. Souter" <[e-mail]>

Hi, everyone!

Thank you for such quick replies!

Your help is greatly appreciated!

Best regards
Chris Souter
(Australia)
[e-mail]


Shane Baker wrote:
>
> On Mon, 08 Nov 1999 14:19:39 +1000, Christopher E. Souter wrote:
>
> >I recently upgraded from Warp 3 to Warp 4.
> >
> >One reason why I did this is because I understood that,
> >among other things, Warp 4 is supposed to support True
> >Type fonts.
> >
> >However, I have searched all the online documentation
> >and I just can't find any reference to True Type fonts
> >anywhere.
> >
> >So, how do you install them?  Is it through the Font
> >Palette?  Where do you find the True Type Fonts in a
> >standard Warp 4 system?  How do you get the Font
> >Palette to recognise them?
>
> Font Pallette -> Edit Font -> Add  ..... and then select the fonts from the
> source.
>
> Regards
>
> Shane Baker
> Canberra - Australia's national capital
> _____________________________
> sbakerATpcug.org.au - please make the obvious change when replying
> Australian Pets newsgroup - aus.pets  <<>>  Australian Dogs Page -
http://www.pcug.org.au/~sbaker/dogs.htm

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From: [e-mail]                                  04-Nov-99 08:53:20
  To: All                                               08-Nov-99 05:18:18
Subj: Re: Daylight Saving Time Change

From: Tony Wright <[e-mail]>

Keith E. Moe wrote:

> In message <[e-mail]> - Tony Wright <[e-mail]>
> writes:
> :>
> :>> I'm also curious if the standard/daylight(summer) time logic actually
> :>> changes the hardware clock or if at every boot the system just
> :>> determines which time we should be running in. (Of course, if it worked
> :>> I could answer my own question.)
> :>
> :>Think about it...... If OS literally only updated a software clock then
> :>booting from diskette (or another OS w/o any TZ correction) would
invariably
> :>give you a different time because the OS has to initialise its software
> :>clock from the hardware one at some point!<g>.
> :>Interesting question though cos if RTC is updated how does another OS
ensure
> :>that it hasn't already been DST adjusted by another OS<g>, as  well as a
> :>disparity tween apps that might query software and hardware clocks
> :>seperately!
> :>So the imponderable question is what happened to all those non-networked
> :>users that had a DST enabled utility on OS/2 when they also first booted
up
> :>say W98 after the DST rollover(or vice versa)?
> :>
> :>> I hate to think how many years I have been saying...
> :>
> :>and we all hate to think how many years the very same question has been
> :>answered!<g>....
> :>
>
> The mainframe solution for this was implemented years ago and that is to run
> the hardware clock in GMT and have the Time Zone Offset maintained by the
> Operating System.

Agreed that is arguably a more "logical" solution but the mainframe
"arena" has invitably a more "disciplined structure" born out of a far
longer history (and thus more mature) than the PC  and you are
invariably running different OS's as "guests"(eg TSO,VM,CICS,IMS etc etc
all under MVS) and not constantly rebooting this type of "serious
hardware" into disparate OS's invidually!<g>.....
Furthermore as "mainframe" hardware clocks (and synchronisation) tween
local (and even remote) processor complexes is far more accurate and
sophisticated than PC equivalent, then in a mixed PC/mainframe
heterogenous network it is far easier to use various utilities to synch
PC servers (and optionally individual workstation clients) to the the
mainframe clock anyway....
In the SOHO PC scenario we have a high number of individual clients
whose only "networked" connection is often only via an indeterminate
remote dial-in capabilty running many individual disparate (and
sometimes multiple OS's) individually and whose TZ functionality may or
may not be fully POSIX compliant!

But then presumably directly working for a major (plug compatable)
mainframe hardware competitor to IBM I'm sure you're more than familiar
with the above(and the fundamental differences tween the scenarios).....
<vbg>.

> Keith
>
> -- So many stupid people.  So few comets.

--
Rgds Tony W   Email: [e-mail]

HISTORICAL TRIVIA QUESTION:
Which one of the original IBM System 360 architects actually jumped ship
in early 70's and setup Amdahl?
For extra points was he an IBM "Fellow"?



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From: doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net                     08-Nov-99 18:46:04
  To: All                                               08-Nov-99 20:06:28
Subj: Re: Where to get Java?

From: doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net (Doug Bissett)

On Sun, 7 Nov 1999 14:05:29, [e-mail](Fritz Oppliger)
wrote:

> In <SKfw30zmCGmZ-pn2-GnqmFxKJSErI@localhost>, on 11/07/99
>    at 07:13 PM, doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net (Doug Bissett) said:
>
>
> >It is under the "IBM OS/2 Warp Develper Kit,
> >Java(TM) Technology Edition, Version 1.1.8"  heading. You only need  the
> >runtime part, unless you are planning to develop JAVA programs.
>
>
> oh! 20 megs to just run Java?

JAVA 1.1.8, without the UNICODE font, is about 12 megs, and the latest
update is another 10 meg.

> Also, who or what is doing the java job now? without downloading that
> thing? Inotherwords how can I find out if any Java is brewing on my
> system, and what version it might be? what is netscape talking about when
> it says "unsupported Java version" ? could it have snuck in with a fixpak?
> Or is there a micro java plugin to netscape?  do I have my terms scrambled
> again 8/) ?
>
> [e-mail](Fritz Oppliger) KE6VDA
>

I don't know of any other way to get JAVA (unless one of the CD
sellers is loading it). Fix packs do not have anything to do with
JAVA. The JAVA fixes are available from:
ftp://ftp.hursley.ibm.com/pub/java/fixes/os2/11/ and follow the links.

If you are talking about Netscape Communicator 4.61, it does require
JAVA 1.1.7, or better (which is probably the source of the
"unsupported" message). 4.04 might also have a minimum required level.

You can tell which version of JAVA is installed (and, if it is
working), by going to a command line and type "JAVA -version" (no
quotes, case is important). If you have one of the later versions, you
can get a little more detail by typing "JAVA -fullversion" (no quotes,
case is important).

If you want to know which (if any) version Netscape (or any other
browser) is using, go to:
http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Heights/9885/osapplet.html

If you want to test how effective it is, go to:
http://www.pendragon-software.com/pendragon/cm3/runtest.html

Hope this helps...
******************************
From the PC of Doug Bissett
doug.bissett at attglobal.net
The " at " must be changed to "@"
******************************

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From: [e-mail]                                    08-Nov-99 20:14:05
  To: All                                               08-Nov-99 20:06:28
Subj: USB Scanner drivers

From: [e-mail] (Bill Danson)

I've been given a Primax Colorado USB9600 scanner to try by my local
shop but I can't find drivers for OS/2 v. 3.0.  All that I've found is
the usbbasic.exe file at; http://www.warpupdates.de (a very useful
site IMHO) which I've installed.  Primax informs me they've no plans
to provide any and my searches have only turned up generic SCSI
drivers.  Anyone got any ideas where I might find some or what scanner
I can get that does have USB drivers for Warp 3.0?

Remove the PAIN from the end of th e-mail address before replying.

Bill Danson
[e-mail]

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From: [e-mail]                               08-Nov-99 22:59:26
  To: All                                               08-Nov-99 21:19:01
Subj: Re: USB Scanner drivers

From: [e-mail]

In article <807aua$mqt$[e-mail]>,
  [e-mail] wrote:

> I've been given a Primax Colorado USB9600 scanner to try by my local
> shop but I can't find drivers for OS/2 v. 3.0.  All that I've found
> is the usbbasic.exe file at; http://www.warpupdates.de (a very useful
> site IMHO) which I've installed.  Primax informs me they've no plans
> to provide any and my searches have only turned up generic SCSI
> drivers.  Anyone got any ideas where I might find some or what
> scanner I can get that does have USB drivers for Warp 3.0?

There are currently no OS/2 USB scanner drivers. Keep an eye on:

http://service.software.ibm.com/os2ddpak/html/index.htm
and more specifically:
http://service.software.ibm.com/os2ddpak/html/universa/index.htm

for new device drivers. Also pester the scanner people and IBM.

--
-Steven Hunter                *OS/2 Warp 4 * |
[e-mail] *AMD K6-2 400* |


Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.

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From: [e-mail]                    09-Nov-99 00:38:17
  To: All                                               08-Nov-99 21:19:01
Subj: Re: USB Scanner drivers

From: [e-mail] (John Hong)

[e-mail] wrote:
: In article <807aua$mqt$[e-mail]>,
:   [e-mail] wrote:

: > I've been given a Primax Colorado USB9600 scanner to try by my local
: > shop but I can't find drivers for OS/2 v. 3.0.  All that I've found
: > is the usbbasic.exe file at; http://www.warpupdates.de (a very useful
: > site IMHO) which I've installed.  Primax informs me they've no plans
: > to provide any and my searches have only turned up generic SCSI
: > drivers.  Anyone got any ideas where I might find some or what
: > scanner I can get that does have USB drivers for Warp 3.0?

: There are currently no OS/2 USB scanner drivers. Keep an eye on:

: http://service.software.ibm.com/os2ddpak/html/index.htm
: and more specifically:
: http://service.software.ibm.com/os2ddpak/html/universa/index.htm

: for new device drivers. Also pester the scanner people and IBM.

    Not sure why.  I mean, IBM has never provided scanner support for
OS/2.  That was all up to the third-party developers like CFM and STi.
It is them that should be asked the question of supporting USB scanners,
not IBM.
    I'm curious myself if SANE has any plans on incorporating USB
support...  I have finally configured SANE to actually pickup my UMAX
610S scanner, but can't seem to do much else.

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From: [e-mail]                                  08-Nov-99 19:45:00
  To: All                                               08-Nov-99 21:19:01
Subj: warp3 locked on set up.

From: jb <[e-mail]>

can anyone help?
I was installing warp3blue spine on my 9595 IBM server,
the basic install went fine untill I loaded the bonus pack.
it froze on the last disc and I am at a loss as to why.
do you have to install the options one at a time?
any how I don't think I have much choice except to
boot in dos -format and start over.
I'm new to this OS/2 thing and would aprecoiate any assistance
offered.
john b

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From: [e-mail]                      09-Nov-99 00:50:13
  To: All                                               09-Nov-99 03:31:28
Subj: Re: True Type Fonts in Warp 4? HOW???

From: [e-mail]       (John Thompson)

In <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Glen D)
writes:

>Might I also suggest FreeType/2 which is improved TrueType support for
>OS/2, and totally free (www.freetype.org).

And FreeType/2 even works with Warp v3!

-John ([e-mail])

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From: [e-mail]                         09-Nov-99 02:32:00
  To: All                                               09-Nov-99 03:31:28
Subj: Re: USB Scanner drivers

From: [e-mail] (Seth Hetherington)

On Tue, 9 Nov 1999 00:38:34, [e-mail] (John
Hong) wrote:

> [e-mail] wrote:
> : In article <807aua$mqt$[e-mail]>,
> :   [e-mail] wrote:
>
> : > I've been given a Primax Colorado USB9600 scanner to try by my local
> : > shop but I can't find drivers for OS/2 v. 3.0.  All that I've found
> : > is the usbbasic.exe file at; http://www.warpupdates.de (a very useful
> : > site IMHO) which I've installed.  Primax informs me they've no plans
> : > to provide any and my searches have only turned up generic SCSI
> : > drivers.  Anyone got any ideas where I might find some or what
> : > scanner I can get that does have USB drivers for Warp 3.0?
>
> : There are currently no OS/2 USB scanner drivers. Keep an eye on:
>
> : http://service.software.ibm.com/os2ddpak/html/index.htm
> : and more specifically:
> : http://service.software.ibm.com/os2ddpak/html/universa/index.htm
>
> : for new device drivers. Also pester the scanner people and IBM.
>
>     Not sure why.  I mean, IBM has never provided scanner support for
> OS/2.  That was all up to the third-party developers like CFM and STi.
> It is them that should be asked the question of supporting USB scanners,
> not IBM.
>     I'm curious myself if SANE has any plans on incorporating USB
> support...  I have finally configured SANE to actually pickup my UMAX
> 610S scanner, but can't seem to do much else.
>
Does this mean that you cannot get your UMAX610S to work with SANE and
an application such as PMView?
Seth Hetherington

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From: yyyc186.illegaltospam.at.flashco...               08-Nov-99 22:53:08
  To: All                                               09-Nov-99 03:31:28
Subj: Re: Laptop Installation problems

Message sender: yyyc186.illegaltospam.at.flashcom.net

From: yyyc186.illegaltospam.at.flashcom.net

In <802jaa$9o3$[e-mail]>, on 11/07/99
   at 01:06 AM, [e-mail] said:

You're in the lucky minority then.  Myself and a lot of others posting
here never got it to work.  I, like you, wanted it to put a PM system on
it for backup and check disks.  Actually I'd settle for a bootable command
line version since my backup works from there.

Roland

>In article
><3823835d$5$lllp186.vyyrtnygbfcnz$[e-mail]>,
>  yyyc186.illegaltospam.at.flashcom.net wrote:
>> In <[e-mail]>, on 11/05/99
>>    at 07:02 PM, Dick Sidbury <[e-mail]> said:
>>
>> Welcome to the wonderfull world of IBM LS-120 support.
>>
>> You CAN'T BOOT FROM IT as drive A.
>>
>> If you don't have a floppy drive to use as drive A, then
>consider yourself
>> screwed.
>>
>This is not universally true. My system has an LS-120 as drive A with no
>real floppies installed, and I was able to install Warp4 and can quite
>happily boot from an LS-120 disk created by BOOTOS2. I did have problems
>with the install until I read a post that said that the
>"BASEDEV=IBMATAPI.FLT" statement had to be the last device statement in
>config.sys. When I made that change, the install proceeded without
>problems. I have no idea why this should make a difference, but it did in
>my case.

>All that's left on my wishlist for the LS-120 is for the
>restriction on creating PM or WPS setups with BOOTOS2 on drive A be
>relaxed ( Ken? ).


>Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
>Before you buy.
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From: [e-mail]                                         09-Nov-99 09:12:08
  To: All                                               09-Nov-99 05:19:24
Subj: Logitech Cordless MouseMan Wheel in OS/2?

From: Anssi Saari <[e-mail]>

I have my eye on a "Logitech Cordless MouseMan Wheel"
(http://www.logitech.com/se/mice/mc83_100.html). I'm wondering if that
mouse works well in OS/2, especially the wheel?

The wheel mouse support IBM has available doesn't mention this
specific model, only a "Mouseman+" which isn't even mentioned on
Logitech's site, maybe it's an older model.

--
Anssi Saari - [e-mail]

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From: [e-mail]                             09-Nov-99 05:01:29
  To: All                                               09-Nov-99 10:58:09
Subj: PM Spool error

From: Tom Neilson <[e-mail]>

Does anyone have the error codes for the PMSppoler? I'm particularly
interested in the PMV 6012 error I keep seeing .....

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From: [e-mail]                              08-Nov-99 17:22:07
  To: All                                               09-Nov-99 10:58:09
Subj: Re: Win-OS/2 Print Manager Starts Automatically with Win-OS/2 - WHY?

From: "J. R. Fox" <[e-mail]>

James Arnold wrote:

> To stop the Win-OS/2 Print Manager forever add the following >to the
"[boot]" section of system.ini:
>
>         MAVDMAPPS=
>
>Once that is done you won't be bothered by Print Manager >again.


There was another such fix-line floating around

          WAVDMAPPS=

Do you happen to recall what that was for ?

<jf>

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From: [e-mail]                     08-Nov-99 16:23:05
  To: All                                               09-Nov-99 14:42:23
Subj: Re: True Type Fonts in Warp 4?  HOW???

From: [e-mail] (Glen D)

Might I also suggest FreeType/2 which is improved TrueType support for
OS/2, and totally free (www.freetype.org).


Glen D
-<remove Z from my e-mail address>-


On Mon, 08 Nov 1999 19:41:34 +1000, "Christopher E. Souter"
<[e-mail]> wrote:

>Hi, everyone!
>
>Thank you for such quick replies!
>
>Your help is greatly appreciated!
>
>Best regards
>Chris Souter
>(Australia)
>[e-mail]
>
>
>Shane Baker wrote:
>>
>> On Mon, 08 Nov 1999 14:19:39 +1000, Christopher E. Souter wrote:
>>
>> >I recently upgraded from Warp 3 to Warp 4.
>> >
>> >One reason why I did this is because I understood that,
>> >among other things, Warp 4 is supposed to support True
>> >Type fonts.
>> >
>> >However, I have searched all the online documentation
>> >and I just can't find any reference to True Type fonts
>> >anywhere.
>> >
>> >So, how do you install them?  Is it through the Font
>> >Palette?  Where do you find the True Type Fonts in a
>> >standard Warp 4 system?  How do you get the Font
>> >Palette to recognise them?
>>
>> Font Pallette -> Edit Font -> Add  ..... and then select the fonts from the
>> source.
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Shane Baker
>> Canberra - Australia's national capital
>> _____________________________
>> sbakerATpcug.org.au - please make the obvious change when replying
>> Australian Pets newsgroup - aus.pets  <<>>  Australian Dogs Page -
http://www.pcug.org.au/~sbaker/dogs.htm

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From: [e-mail]                                      09-Nov-99 13:17:04
  To: All                                               09-Nov-99 16:00:00
Subj: OS/2 & >64 MB Detection on new boards

From: "Frank Field" <[e-mail]>

I got this message from Gigabyte when I was trying
to figure out why my new Athlon board wouldn't
address more than 64 megs of RAM.  It points to a
problem between OS/2 internals and the emerging
hardware "standards."  Anyone got any thoughts about
how to point this out to IBM?

=======

Dear Sir,

I'm responding to your FAX about BIOS problems sizing memory
above 64MB with OS/2.

OS/2 and Windows NT/9x use different BIOS calls to determine
how much memory is available.  OS/2 uses INT 15h,AX=E801h
while Windows uses INT 15h,AX=E820h.

Look here, http://www.ctyme.com/intr/int.htm
<http://www.ctyme.com/intr/int.htm>  to see the details.

Award has had support for the E801 call since late in 1995.
Recently, though, this support was made conditional on ACPI
in order to pass an Intel "Component Validation Test".  In other
words a BIOS with ACPI support could not have E801 support.
Very recently (October), this code was refined to allow the
E801 support to be included even if ACPI is supported.

In summary, your BIOS doesn't have support for the runtime
call OS/2 needs to correctly determine how much memory
above 64MB is available.  It is possible that a BIOS upgrade
from Gigabyte might fix this.

I hope this clarifies what is happening for you, and regret that
we can't make the BIOS support OS/2.

=======


Frank Field
[e-mail]
O-


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From: [e-mail]                              09-Nov-99 09:10:09
  To: All                                               09-Nov-99 16:00:00
Subj: Hard drive errors

From: James Stotz <[e-mail]>

I'm trying to re-install our lan server on one of our computers.  But,
I'm having a problem with the lan fixpak.  It stops saying that there
are errors on the hard drive or the sel000.cfs is corrupt (or something
like that).  But, there are errors on the hard drive.  The /F command on
chkdsk doesn't work because c: is being used.  So I went to utility
disks, and everything seems O.K.  But, booting up again shows errors
again.  I quickly installed a version on my d: drive, and ran chkdsk
there.  I see the sys0552 and sys0562 errors.  I can run chkdsk c: /F,
and the errors disappear.  When I go back to the original (c:)
partition, the errors return.  I've reformated everything, installed it
and made sure everything was O.K., but as soon as I install Warp 4, the
errors come forth. I've done this many times before, but on this machine
(which worked once already) nothings doing.

Any help on how to permanently rid these errors from my system.  It
keeps saying it found lost data.

Thankx,

James Stotz
Physics Dept.
Simon Fraser University

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From: [e-mail]                                      09-Nov-99 15:42:25
  To: All                                               09-Nov-99 20:25:14
Subj: Re: OS/2 & >64 MB Detection on new boards

From: "Frank Field" <[e-mail]>

Small correction: that e-mail missive was from Phoenix
Technologies, not Gigabyte.  The following message
came over the transom:

================

Please feel free to use my E-mail.  I guess I wasn't
clear about this, but I work in Engineering Support
(i.e. Technical Support) at Phoenix.  Phoenix and Award
merged some time ago.  I have access to the Award codebase,
so the information I gave you is based on reading the BIOS
source code.

================



Frank Field
[e-mail]
O-


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From: [e-mail]                          08-Nov-99 19:04:11
  To: All                                               09-Nov-99 21:17:16
Subj: Re: Daylight Saving Time Change

From: Ian_Campbell <[e-mail]>

Doug Bissett wrote:
>
> On Sun, 7 Nov 1999 02:42:58, Ian_Campbell <[e-mail]>
> wrote:
>
> > I am using the time utility and can report that it works as advertised.
>
> I have looked at this, but did not get too far into it.
>
> Question: When you use this package, with the clock set to UCT (GMT),
> I understand that the OS2CLU programs use the time ofset etc., but
> what time is returned to other programs (Word processors, database
> etc.)?

They all report UTC time - most from the RTC I believe.

I do not have any applications that have a critical need for local time
so where possible I have turned the UTC clocks off and ignore the rest.
The timestamp on any new/saved files is UTC as is the timestamp on this
message (I assume).

This allows both my OS/2 and Linux installations to work in their
intended fashion - with local time reported as an offset from UTC.

According to ongoing messages in the Fidonet OS/2 conference the author
is rewriting the OS/2 command processor as "pure" 32 bit rather than the
current 16 bit and has a beta on the go. I believe that the command
processor will address the problem of OS/2 programs calling the wrong
time source (RTC rather than kernel - as described by the author - and
far too technical for me).



Regards

Ian

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From: james.arnold@!!!usa.net                           10-Nov-99 02:08:10
  To: All                                               10-Nov-99 05:30:17
Subj: Re: Win-OS/2 Print Manager Starts Automatically with Win-OS/2 - WHY?

From: james.arnold@!!!usa.net

In <[e-mail]>, "J. R. Fox" <[e-mail]> writes:
>James Arnold wrote:
>
>> To stop the Win-OS/2 Print Manager forever add the following >to the
"[boot]" section of system.ini:
>>
>>         MAVDMAPPS=
>>
>>Once that is done you won't be bothered by Print Manager >again.
>
>
>There was another such fix-line floating around
>
>          WAVDMAPPS=
>
>Do you happen to recall what that was for ?
>
><jf>
>

        I cann't remember what that last line was for, although I too have
it in system.ini.

        Jim


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                                              ICQ:    9719182

        Member Toronto OS/2 User Group

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From: [e-mail]                                09-Nov-99 20:05:24
  To: All                                               10-Nov-99 05:30:18
Subj: Re: I Quit

From: Jon Schuck <[e-mail]>

will you sell me your copy?

Ray wrote:

> OS/2 WARP may be a fine operating system, but after three months of no
> help, from IBM or the news groups, to fix a seemingly simple problem, I
> quit.
>
> I have had no problem with DOS and WIN 3.1 on co-existing on this WARP
> machine, but WARP was unable to recognize the Vibra 16 SB card so that I
> could have sound and use my voice response. (The box made it sound neat)
>
> I have re-formatted and put back on a stable version of Windows 95.
> Seems to be plenty of help out there for that, although I didn't need
> it, all hardware was recognized.
>
> Sometime in the future I may dabble in OS/2 again, but for right now, it
> was $200 dollars wasted.
>
> Dissappointed Ray in Seattle

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From: [e-mail]@Vi...               10-Nov-99 04:21:08
  To: All                                               10-Nov-99 05:30:18
Subj: Re: changing interface of windows 98 and 95

Message sender: [e-mail]@Videotron.ca

From: [e-mail]@Videotron.ca (Michel A Goyette)

Wed, 10 Nov 1999 03:30:09, Dave <[e-mail]> a écrit:

> I read on your web page in 20 question on windows 98, How to return to
> windows 95 interface.  I tried it and now would like to go back to windows
> 98 interface but can't seem to get it to work right.  How do I do this?

    Ahhh, another lost soul in the Dark side.

Salut,

    Michel (sur OS/2 Warp 4.07)
    ICQ #13376913
    http://pages.infinit.net/exovede

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From: [e-mail]                                         10-Nov-99 07:50:04
  To: All                                               10-Nov-99 05:30:18
Subj: Logitech Cordless MouseMan Wheel in OS/2?

From: Anssi Saari <[e-mail]>

I have my eye on a "Logitech Cordless MouseMan Wheel"
(http://www.logitech.com/se/mice/mc83_100.html). I'm wondering if that
mouse works well in OS/2, especially the wheel?

The wheel mouse support IBM has available doesn't mention this
specific model, only a "Mouseman+" which isn't even mentioned on
Logitech's site, maybe it's an older model.

--
Anssi Saari - [e-mail]

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From: [e-mail]                               10-Nov-99 05:31:14
  To: All                                               10-Nov-99 05:30:18
Subj: Re: changing interface of windows 98 and 95

From: [e-mail]

In article <[e-mail]>,
  Dave <[e-mail]> wrote:

> I read on your web page in 20 question on windows 98, How to return
> to windows 95 interface.  I tried it and now would like to go back to
> windows 98 interface but can't seem to get it to work right.  How do
> I do this?

Hmmmm... Well, I'm so glad to know that my non-existant website is
doing such good traffic. Anyway, in anwser to your question:

Reboot your system.
When you see: Starting Windows... hit F8
From the list select: Safe Mode, Command Prompt Only
Next type: "deltree windows" and anwser Yes

Good luck!

PS: Not responsible for anything that may occur as a result of
following these instructions.

--
-Steven Hunter                *OS/2 Warp 4 * |
[e-mail] *AMD K6-2 400* |


Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.

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From: [e-mail]                                  10-Nov-99 10:21:10
  To: All                                               10-Nov-99 10:29:14
Subj: Max open files when running MSC 6.0 compiler

From: [e-mail]

A system with several applications and dll's developed with the old
Microsoft's OS/2 C 6.0 compiler (from the early OS/2 days version 1.2
or 1.3) can be compiled and linked without any problem on Warp3. After
upgrading to Warp4 some of the applications can't be compiled. The
reason is that the compiler run out of filehandles (these applications
have many includes and dependencies etc).
How can I get around this problem so I don't need to keep one computer
in the old Warp3 just for compiling (all computers in the network
running the system have Warp4)?

I did try the config.sys parameter FILES=nnn, but it didn't work (it's
for the DOS-shell only I think).


Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.

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From: [e-mail]                           10-Nov-99 10:53:05
  To: All                                               10-Nov-99 10:29:14
Subj: HELP !!! Second Partition problem.

From: "Ghassan Barbour" <[e-mail]>

Hi everybody,

I just installed OS/2 Warp4, on a 2.6GB Hard Drive, that I slipped into two
partitions (50%).
The problem is that I can't get the second partition to be recognized !!! I
have Floppy A/B, a HD (C) and a CD-ROM (D) , NO SECOND PARTITION !!!!!


Please, could you reply to my e-mail [e-mail]

Thanks a lot.


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From: [e-mail]                          10-Nov-99 12:14:03
  To: All                                               10-Nov-99 10:29:14
Subj: Re: True Type Fonts in Warp 4?  HOW???

From: [e-mail] (Buddy Donnelly)

On Mon, 8 Nov 1999 05:55:39, "Shane Baker" <[e-mail]> a ┌crit
dans un message:

> On Mon, 08 Nov 1999 14:19:39 +1000, Christopher E. Souter wrote:
>
> >I recently upgraded from Warp 3 to Warp 4.
> >
> >One reason why I did this is because I understood that,
> >among other things, Warp 4 is supposed to support True
> >Type fonts.
> >
> >However, I have searched all the online documentation
> >and I just can't find any reference to True Type fonts
> >anywhere.
> >
> >So, how do you install them?  Is it through the Font
> >Palette?  Where do you find the True Type Fonts in a
> >standard Warp 4 system?  How do you get the Font
> >Palette to recognise them?
>
> Font Pallette -> Edit Font -> Add  ..... and then select the fonts from the
> source.

Or use Cliff Cullum's FontFolder utility, which provides excellent font
management for OS/2. World-class font management, in fact.

It's shareware, so you can test it, and it's available online at:

    http://www.pvsoft.com/


--

Good luck,

Buddy

Buddy Donnelly
[e-mail]


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From: [e-mail]                                   10-Nov-99 15:59:15
  To: All                                               10-Nov-99 21:35:27
Subj: modem setup help please

From: [e-mail]

I have just moved into a house, and have not upacked anything, which means
I can't find my PC books and I would like to know the command to disable
V90 protocol on my USR modem.

If anyone has that info handy, I would appreciate the help. Bad enough I
lost my 56K access, but the lines  here are so bad, I don't even bother
with the web stuff, just email and news. I am hoping that if I disable the
V90, I can at least get a 2K connection.

Thanks a lot for any help.

Regards,

John



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From: [e-mail]                                10-Nov-99 17:28:04
  To: All                                               10-Nov-99 21:35:27
Subj: Slow WPS file manipulation

From: Paul Floyd <[e-mail]>

Hi

I've recently upgraded to Warp 4 on a new PC. I've noticed that a lot of
the file manipulations from WPS (especially file deletion) are very
slow. If anything, slower than my old PC running Warp 3 (with a CPU 15
times slower!).

I thought it might be the DELDIR environment variable. In Warp 3 it is
remmed out by default, so I thought that in Warp 4 perhaps it was set by
default. But no, it is still remmed out in my config.sys.

Does anyone else have any ideas why it is so slow?

My answer is to use gnu "rm -rf", which is indeed fast, but I don't
always want to switch to a command line to zap files.

Regards
Paul

--
Dr. Paul Floyd      Focal Ingenierie Sud
Mail: paul underscore floyd at focal dot fr

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From: [e-mail]                                10-Nov-99 23:16:18
  To: All                                               11-Nov-99 03:54:24
Subj: Problem printing from EPM to HP 682C printer.

From: Jim Parker <[e-mail]>

Whenever I tried to print from EPM (Warp 4 FP9) to my HP 682C printer
(Omni driver version 30.698), the last line of each page got chopped off
- only the top sliver of the line got printed.

To solve the problem I had to create, in the the printer driver
properties,  a new user defined paper size which changed the bottom clip
from 0.59 inches to 0.50 inches and then create a connection using that
paper size and then, in the printer properties,  select that connection
in the job properties.

This is obviously a bug in the Omni driver - the bottom clip for letter
size paper is incorrect. Fortunately there is this work around.

Just thought the gazillion people who use OS/2 and have HP 682 printers
and use EPM to print stuff would be dying to know this :-)

Cheers
Jim

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From: [e-mail]                    11-Nov-99 06:47:14
  To: All                                               11-Nov-99 03:54:25
Subj: Re: Problem printing from EPM to HP 682C printer.

From: [e-mail] (John Hong)

Jim Parker ([e-mail]) wrote:
: Whenever I tried to print from EPM (Warp 4 FP9) to my HP 682C printer
: (Omni driver version 30.698), the last line of each page got chopped off
: - only the top sliver of the line got printed.

    Have you tried version 30.702?


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From: [e-mail]                                         11-Nov-99 10:23:21
  To: All                                               11-Nov-99 10:44:23
Subj: Re: Logitech Cordless MouseMan Wheel in OS/2?

From: Anssi Saari <[e-mail]>

Brad BARCLAY <[e-mail]> writes:

>     I won't promise anything, but AFAIK all of the scroll mice use the same
> protocol, so it should work without much troubles.

Well, that seems likely, but I did find someone in Deja who wasn't
able to make the other Logitech's cordless mouse to work. I mailed him
and he said he gave up and got a mouse with a cord instead.

--
Anssi Saari - [e-mail]

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From: [e-mail]                               11-Nov-99 15:33:01
  To: All                                               11-Nov-99 14:39:02
Subj: Cable modems with more than 1 computer

From: [e-mail] (as)

Many thanks to those that replied to my original
question, everything is working great.  Now i'm
ready for step 2 which is getting a second computer
connected.  I have a hub and a second network card
for the other computer.  I assume what happens next
is that i disconnect the cable modem from the main
computer and then plug the cable modem along with
each computer into the hub.  The main computer which
is running os/2 i want to be the server and the second
computer running win95 will become the client i guess.
So... at this point what do i need to do to make
everything work?  Any advice would be greatly appreciated.



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From: [e-mail]                               11-Nov-99 15:35:23
  To: All                                               11-Nov-99 14:39:02
Subj: difference between OS/2 warp server and OS/2 warp 4..

From: [e-mail] (Christopher)

hai:

    i really need some explanation here.
    to all the OS/2 user out there, could anyone tell me that what
is the difference between OS/2 Warp server and OS/2 Warp 4?

    i am thinking of using OS/2 Warp 4 but what i have got from my
uncle is OS/2 Warp server. are they the same and if it's not, what's
the difference between those?

    the answer is needed in urgent. thanks in advance for your
answer. please reply to my mail box:

    [e-mail].

thanks again.

christ.
Malaysia.

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From: [e-mail]                         11-Nov-99 16:03:05
  To: All                                               11-Nov-99 14:39:02
Subj: Installing Warp 4 upgrade on a machine without previous OS/2

From: [e-mail] (Greg Lewis)

Hi there,

It's been a "long time" since I last did a fresh install of Warp 4. I've got
the "Upgrade for OS/2 users" version with the blue spine.

I remember that the install checks for a particular filename and all I had to
do was create a simple text file and rename it to "that" name in order to do a

fresh install... I can't remember for the life of me what the filename was.

Can someone walk me through doing a fresh install with this version? I also
don't have a clue where my earlier version cd's are.. "I've moved twice since
I last did a fresh install".

I'd -really- appreciate some help at fooling the installer... :\

Thank you very much in advance.
Greg

Remove the binary stuff from my email if you want to email me.

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From: [e-mail]                        11-Nov-99 19:52:06
  To: All                                               11-Nov-99 16:48:03
Subj: Re: Warp Connect across subnets?

From: [e-mail] (Alex Taylor)

On Thu, 04 Nov 1999 05:56:22 GMT, [e-mail] <[e-mail]>
wrote:
>         Now comes my next little hurdle.  All of the resources I'd
> like to connect to are on a different subnet than the one I dial
> into.  Thus, I'd like to use commands like
>    net use w: \\machine.somewhere.aroundhere.atwork\resourcename
> to connect to shared directories.  However, Connect's NET USE
> command finds dots (or total length?) distasteful.  The little
> graphical "connect to stuff" program won't allow any great number
> of characters in naming a resource to connect to.  In either case,
> it looks as if I would be allowed to connect only to things on the
> same subnet that I'm on.  Since that isn't what I want to do, life
> is tough.
>         If I install an appropriate fixpak am I likely to obtain
> a NET USE command that will let me work with stuff on other
> subnets?  Am I just being ignorant and missing a capability
> that's already here?  Which manual or URL or ... should I be
> reading now?

I'm afraid I don't really know... we're getting a bit beyond my
expertise here.  I was not aware of any limitation in OS/2 LAN
Requester about subnets.  It could also have something to do with
the domain you're connecting to.

Do the machines you want not have NETBEUI computer names?  AFAIK,
you shouldn't have to use IP names to connect to them.
i.e., instead of "NET USE S: \\10.9.8.7\resource1" I'd expect
"NET USE S: \\SERVER1\resource1", and SERVER1 should be a unique
name on the LAN domain.

This assumes you know the name of the server you need, of course.

The network resources folder (forget exactly what it's called in
Connect) should display icons for every visible machine on the
LAN domain, and you wouldn't need to type in a name at all.  Can
you not see the machines you want?  (For that matter, what does
"NET VIEW" tell you?  If you can't see them there either, you may
be using the wrong protocol.)

--
-----------------------------------------------------------------
 Alex Taylor                  BA - CIS - University of Guelph
 [e-mail]   http://eddie.cis.uoguelph.ca/~alex
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From: [e-mail]                                11-Nov-99 20:39:18
  To: All                                               11-Nov-99 16:48:03
Subj: Re: Cable modems with more than 1 computer

From: "Maurice Janssen" <[e-mail]>

On Thu, 11 Nov 1999 15:33:03 GMT, as wrote:

>Many thanks to those that replied to my original
>question, everything is working great.  Now i'm
>ready for step 2 which is getting a second computer
>connected.  I have a hub and a second network card
>for the other computer.  I assume what happens next
>is that i disconnect the cable modem from the main
>computer and then plug the cable modem along with
>each computer into the hub.

You also need an second network card for the other computer. Something
like this:

        comp 1              comp2
     NIC1   NIC2      hub    NIC
      |      |        | |     |
      |       --------   -----
      |
    cable modem

So the computer connected to the cable modem will have 2 network cards
(NIC's). comp1 will have to do network address translation (NAT, also
called IP-masquerading). This is necessary, since your provider
probably will give you a single IP-adres, not two. There are a few
products that will do that, for instance Injoy Firewall
<http://www.fx.dk/>.
Your local network must have a special IP-range to avoid routing
problems. You typically use 192.168.1.0 for such a network.

HTH, Maurice
--
Maurice Janssen      |   The best way to accelerate
                     |   a computer running Windows
[e-mail]   |   is at 9.8 m/s^2


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From: [e-mail]                         11-Nov-99 22:22:05
  To: All                                               11-Nov-99 19:59:17
Subj: Re: Installing Warp 4 upgrade on a machine without previous OS/2

From: [e-mail] (Greg Lewis)

In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (John
Poltorak) wrote:
>In <80epkc$3nfo$[e-mail]>, [e-mail]
> (Greg Lewis) writes:
>>Hi there,
>>
>>It's been a "long time" since I last did a fresh install of Warp 4. I've got

>>the "Upgrade for OS/2 users" version with the blue spine.
>
>AFAIAA the 'upgrade' is a licensing issue, rather than a physically different
>version of the product.
>
Perhaps I was thinking of an earlier OS/2 upgrade I did that with... How sure
are u? :) That's good news if that's the case. I just hate to start, unless
I'm sure I won't hit a snag.

Thanks for the response, John,

Greg

Remove the binary stuff from my email if you want to email me.

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From: [e-mail]@mail.beol.net                       11-Nov-99 19:59:24
  To: All                                               11-Nov-99 19:59:17
Subj: Setting up all the stuff I need for Merlin

From: [e-mail]@mail.beol.net

Hey folks, I'm going to beg your assistance here.

I've been running Warp for several years, and now that I'm getting
back into OS/2 development again I am upgrading to Merlin and getting
the latest versions of the development tools to install. The problem
is that I've been working in a totally different environment lately,
and haven't kept up on the technology, so I'm having some difficulty.
I've got VACpp V3, and I have an as-yet uninstalled copy of VAJava,
and I want to go to the latest Netscape, and I want to do something
about that old PostRoad I was running... wait, let me tell you where
I am.

I downloaded FP12, and CSF 1.41 first. Then I installed Warp V4, an
interesting experience that went _MUCH_ more smoothly after I disabled
the hardware sensing. Note that I had been running Warp V4 at work for
a few years, so I was reasonably familiar with the installation
procedures and the software itself. However, at home I have no network
card, so I was surprised that I was required to configure MPTN and a
NULLNDIS mac, even though I initially decided not to install TCP/IP.
Once I had the system stabilized, particularly getting my ZOOM modem
recognized and working with SIO, I installed sound support, and TCP/IP.
Once those all worked, I installed the fixpack, which went remarkably
smoothly, and still permitted my system to work. (I had been unable to
install fixpacks on Warp V3 because it blew away the video, so I had
been running on Warp V3 for _many_ years without any fixes. Solid as a
rock.)

Ok, after getting FP12 loaded, I downloaded the latest fixes for DB2/2
and VACpp V3. I figured I had to get DB2/2 installed first, so the
data access pieces for VACpp would install. So, DB2/2 is installed and
its fixes, and VACpp is installed and its fixes. Next is -- ?

I have downloaded the secure version of NC 4.61, I am downloading the
JDK 1.1.8 and the Java runtime to go with it. I still have the VAJava
to load, and I am trying to figure out the fixes for that. It looks
from the web pages I've seen that I need the Feature Installer to
install the Java stuff I downloaded, but I need Netscape to use the
Feature Installer, but I need to have Java installed before getting
Netscape going. This is nearly circular, unless there are portions
I can install to get, uh, around that. I figure maybe the best route
is to install VAJava, which likely has with it whatever I need to get
Netscape going, so that I can then install the FI, which will let me
install the new JRE and JDK over the top of the toolkit that VAJava
requires. Have I got that right? And once I have all THAT going,
where do I go to get that Java Media tool and the new Java-based
mail tool?

Just wondering....
(Whew!)

Rob

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From: [e-mail]                           12-Nov-99 10:16:04
  To: All                                               11-Nov-99 21:27:04
Subj: Re: Unable to run any TCPIP program

From: Paul Arnott <[e-mail]>

I looked for setloc1 using the find utility then copied it to the os/2
directory. It worked after this,but i have no idea why it couldn't find it in
the first place.
Paul

Yuk Lun Chan wrote:

> Hello,
>
> I have installed the basic Warp 4.0 frist before installing TCP/IP service
> in my box (I always has problem when install the basic system and TCP/IP in
> the same time). I have all the program icon as usual. But when I try to run
> anyone of these TCP/IP program, it always prompt for incorrect path. Then I
> try to run them from the OS/2 command prompt. An error says that it cannot
> find SETLOC1. I want to know what is this and how can I install it from the
> CD.
>
> Thank you very much!
>
> Yuk Lun Chan

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From: [e-mail]                                  11-Nov-99 23:18:18
  To: All                                               11-Nov-99 21:27:04
Subj: Re: modem setup help please

From: Serge Desaulniers <[e-mail]>

[e-mail] wrote :
>
> I have just moved into a house, and have not upacked anything, which means
> I can't find my PC books and I would like to know the command to disable
> V90 protocol on my USR modem.
>
> If anyone has that info handy, I would appreciate the help. Bad enough I
> lost my 56K access, but the lines  here are so bad, I don't even bother
> with the web stuff, just email and news. I am hoping that if I disable the
> V90, I can at least get a 2K connection.
>
> Thanks a lot for any help.
>
> Regards,
>
> John

The command is

ats32=66

I used to use that command with a Cardinal modem that was not completely
compatible with my ISP's equipment. It should let your modem connect at
56K (X2) and not V.90...

Hope this helps.

--
Serge Desaulniers
sd AT vif DOT com
-----------------
To E-mail directly, please remove NOSPAM...

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From: [e-mail]                         12-Nov-99 00:35:15
  To: All                                               11-Nov-99 21:27:04
Subj: OS/2 Warp Fixpacks

From: [e-mail] (Patrick Fitzgerald)

I tried to apply the  fixpack update using the Remote Software update
over the internet.

After well over an hour of file transfer the update began and then
crapped out because IIRC my syslevel was wrong. Unfortunately I did
not record the message becuse I thought their would be log file - but
I can not find one

I now have a directory with many megabytes of the fixpack files. My
OS/2 is version 3 - blue spine and  has never had any fix packs
applied.

What should I do now ??

patricK

Big Green Riding Hood
Shipley is anti democracy

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From: [e-mail]                     11-Nov-99 22:59:03
  To: All                                               11-Nov-99 21:27:04
Subj: Re: Installing Warp 4 upgrade on a machine without previous OS/2

From: "Trevor Hemsley" <[e-mail]>

On Thu, 11 Nov 1999 22:22:11 GMT, Greg Lewis wrote:

->Perhaps I was thinking of an earlier OS/2 upgrade I did that with... How
sure
->are u? :)

Very.

You're thinking of the Warp 3 blue spine upgrade in ~March 1995 that
checked for the existence of \os2\install\syslevel.os2 from the
appropriate copy of 2.1x.


Trevor Hemsley, London, UK
([e-mail] or [e-mail])



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From: [e-mail]                         12-Nov-99 00:35:16
  To: All                                               11-Nov-99 21:27:04
Subj: OS/2 Warp & Windows 98

From: [e-mail] (Patrick Fitzgerald)

I am so frustrated at not being able to run some things with OS./2
Warp, version 3, that I have ordered Windows 98 SE.

Can I have Windows and OS/2 running on my computer at the same time.

If so could someone please give me a reference to where I get the
information on how to do that

Thanks

patricK

Big Green Riding Hood
Shipley is anti democracy

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From: [e-mail]                            11-Nov-99 23:30:03
  To: All                                               11-Nov-99 21:27:04
Subj: Forte 16 multi cd sound card device drivers for OS/2 Warp v.3

From: <[e-mail]>

I want to install OS/2 Warp Ver 3 on a Packard Bell Legend with a Forte 16
Sound card. I have the driver for dos that's no problem but they are not
compatible with OS/2. Is there any Device driver I may install for this
card?
By the way it is the kind of card that the cd-rom connects to (ide)

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From: [e-mail]                         11-Nov-99 23:38:12
  To: All                                               11-Nov-99 21:27:04
Subj: DSL setup questions

From: [e-mail] (Will Smith)

  Basicly, what is required for both software and hardware to
prepare an OS/2 system for a DSL hookup.  I am seriously
considering doing this before the end of the year and wonder
what networking protoclols and hardware my system will need
to be ready for PacBell to hook ne up.  Their tech support
people have no ideas what is required for an OS/2 system.

Bill
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Education does not equal intelligence.
Intelligence is common sense.
There is very little intelligent life on Earth.
Microsoft would not rule the desktop, if there was!

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

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From: [e-mail]                            12-Nov-99 00:30:15
  To: All                                               11-Nov-99 21:27:04
Subj: Forte16 Sound card with CR-563 Cdrom connected

From: <[e-mail]>

I need to find device drivers for this card for Os install Any Suggestions?
Os/2 Warp Ver3 doesn't support this card because I think the sound card
has a different port address then the cd (530). Would I need to specify a
port address for the card and under what line in config.sys on disk 1?
The CDROM is not tapi compliant so I can't attatch it directly to the
secondary controller.

--
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http://www.help.com/

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From: [e-mail]                             12-Nov-99 01:44:25
  To: All                                               12-Nov-99 03:36:01
Subj: Help installing Warp 3

From: Christopher J Houle <[e-mail]>

Can someone help me install Warp on my system.

I currently have several problems:

1. Fdisk could not recognize my > 4 gb drive. I was able to surmount this by
downloading the drivers from ibm and including it on install disk 1.

2. I am unable to install all of the drivers from the driver file onto disk
one because they wont fit. Is there any way around this ?

3. After getting disk 6 to install, the machine reboots and is just locked up
in dead black space. It will not go any further.

If you can help please email me



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From: [e-mail]                               11-Nov-99 21:39:29
  To: All                                               12-Nov-99 03:36:02
Subj: Re: OS/2 Warp & Windows 98

From: "/2 User" <[e-mail]>

On Fri, 12 Nov 1999 00:35:33 GMT, Patrick Fitzgerald wrote:

>I am so frustrated at not being able to run some things with OS./2
>Warp, version 3, that I have ordered Windows 98 SE.
>
>Can I have Windows and OS/2 running on my computer at the same time.
>
>If so could someone please give me a reference to where I get the
>information on how to do that

You can not run them at the same time, however you can install boot manager
and have it on a partition, like I do. The only thing is I never shut down
OS/2 more than once a month for win98, and that is only for something non
productive.


~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
"I tend to stay away from the Advocacy groups to avoid the WindTrolls"
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


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From: [e-mail]                              11-Nov-99 19:00:18
  To: All                                               12-Nov-99 03:36:02
Subj: Re: DSL setup questions

From: "Robert Gehrig" <[e-mail]>

On 11 Nov 1999 23:38:25 GMT, Will Smith wrote:

>  Basicly, what is required for both software and hardware to
>prepare an OS/2 system for a DSL hookup.  I am seriously
>considering doing this before the end of the year and wonder
>what networking protoclols and hardware my system will need
>to be ready for PacBell to hook ne up.  Their tech support
>people have no ideas what is required for an OS/2 system.
>
>Bill
>^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>
>Education does not equal intelligence.
>Intelligence is common sense.
>There is very little intelligent life on Earth.
>Microsoft would not rule the desktop, if there was!
>
>^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>
What DSL Modem/Router do you have. If it is a Cisco 675 I can help.


Robert Gehrig
[e-mail]

Brought to you by the letters O and S and the number 2



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From: [e-mail]                                11-Nov-99 22:10:15
  To: All                                               12-Nov-99 03:36:02
Subj: Re: Problem printing from EPM to HP 682C printer.

From: Jim Parker <[e-mail]>

John Hong wrote:

> Jim Parker ([e-mail]) wrote:
> : Whenever I tried to print from EPM (Warp 4 FP9) to my HP 682C printer
> : (Omni driver version 30.698), the last line of each page got chopped off
> : - only the top sliver of the line got printed.
>
>         Have you tried version 30.702?

No, but I tried several versions of the driver before I figured out the work
around. I'll give it a try.

Thanks
Jim


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From: [e-mail]                                12-Nov-99 05:02:07
  To: All                                               12-Nov-99 03:36:02
Subj: Matrox G400 and Scitech DD articles in newest OS/2 Ezine

From: [e-mail] (Duncan Munro)


http://www.os2ezine.com

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From: [e-mail]                               12-Nov-99 03:59:02
  To: All                                               12-Nov-99 03:36:02
Subj: Re: difference between OS/2 warp server and OS/2 warp 4..

From: [e-mail]

In article <[e-mail]>,
  [e-mail] (Christopher) wrote:
>     to all the OS/2 user out there, could anyone tell me that what
> is the difference between OS/2 Warp server and OS/2 Warp 4?

One is around $150 and server is about $750. Server fully contains
Warp 4 with in it. Server has SMP (for dual intel chips) Can operate
as a network server if desired.

There are more features, anyone care to add to list?


Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.

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From: [e-mail]                          12-Nov-99 04:10:18
  To: All                                               12-Nov-99 03:36:02
Subj: Re: Installing Warp 4 upgrade on a machine without previous OS/2

From: [e-mail] (Annie K.)

On Thu, 11 Nov 1999 16:03:10, [e-mail] (Greg Lewis)
wrote:

:It's been a "long time" since I last did a fresh install of Warp 4. I've got
:the "Upgrade for OS/2 users" version with the blue spine.
:
:I remember that the install checks for a particular filename and all I had to

:do was create a simple text file and rename it to "that" name in order to do
a
:fresh install... I can't remember for the life of me what the filename was.

 The Warp 4 upgrade doesn't do any sniffing, unlike earlier versions.

--
Klaatu barada nikto

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From: [e-mail]                                12-Nov-99 05:29:11
  To: All                                               12-Nov-99 03:36:02
Subj: Warp Connect Across LAN Domains

From: [e-mail]

In <N7FW3.47052$[e-mail]>, [e-mail]
(Alex Taylor) writes:
>
>I'm afraid I don't really know... we're getting a bit beyond my
>expertise here.  I was not aware of any limitation in OS/2 LAN
>Requester about subnets.  It could also have something to do with
>the domain you're connecting to.

        In fact, it does.  My initial guess that the subnet was
the problem was incorrect.  In fact, I'm trying to cross LAN
domains.

>Do the machines you want not have NETBEUI computer names?  AFAIK,
>you shouldn't have to use IP names to connect to them.
>i.e., instead of "NET USE S: \\10.9.8.7\resource1" I'd expect
>"NET USE S: \\SERVER1\resource1", and SERVER1 should be a unique
>name on the LAN domain.

        For machines on the same LAN domain this does indeed
work.  The reason I didn' know that earlier is that the LAN domain
I (must) dial into isn't the one containing the resources I need.
Thus, I need
   NET USE W: \\machine.somewhere.aroundhere.atwork\share
and don't seem to be able to do it.  By the way, I wanted to
use names, not numeric IP addresses, and only tried using a numeric
IP address when the normal kind of command described above didn't
work.
        If all will please forgive the reference, I can do exactly
what I'm after here on Windows NT and even cite a different user ID
and password for the distant domain, if appropriate.  I'd like to
think that OS/2 hasn't been left behind in this area.  That's why
I wonder if some fix level might add the capability.

>Can you not see the machines you want?

        I can see various machines on the same LAN domain, none
of which is of interest.  What I can't find is any way to browse
other LAN domains or connect to resources on them (things I can do
on NT, but I want OS/2).


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From: [e-mail]                           12-Nov-99 05:49:14
  To: All                                               12-Nov-99 03:36:02
Subj: Re: Warp Connect Across LAN Domains

From: [e-mail] (Lorne Sunley)

On Fri, 12 Nov 1999 05:29:23, [e-mail] wrote:

> In <N7FW3.47052$[e-mail]>,
[e-mail] (Alex Taylor) writes:
> >
> >I'm afraid I don't really know... we're getting a bit beyond my
> >expertise here.  I was not aware of any limitation in OS/2 LAN
> >Requester about subnets.  It could also have something to do with
> >the domain you're connecting to.
>
>         In fact, it does.  My initial guess that the subnet was
> the problem was incorrect.  In fact, I'm trying to cross LAN
> domains.
>
> >Do the machines you want not have NETBEUI computer names?  AFAIK,
> >you shouldn't have to use IP names to connect to them.
> >i.e., instead of "NET USE S: \\10.9.8.7\resource1" I'd expect
> >"NET USE S: \\SERVER1\resource1", and SERVER1 should be a unique
> >name on the LAN domain.
>
>         For machines on the same LAN domain this does indeed
> work.  The reason I didn' know that earlier is that the LAN domain
> I (must) dial into isn't the one containing the resources I need.
> Thus, I need
>    NET USE W: \\machine.somewhere.aroundhere.atwork\share
> and don't seem to be able to do it.  By the way, I wanted to
> use names, not numeric IP addresses, and only tried using a numeric
> IP address when the normal kind of command described above didn't
> work.
>         If all will please forgive the reference, I can do exactly
> what I'm after here on Windows NT and even cite a different user ID
> and password for the distant domain, if appropriate.  I'd like to
> think that OS/2 hasn't been left behind in this area.  That's why
> I wonder if some fix level might add the capability.
>
> >Can you not see the machines you want?
>
>         I can see various machines on the same LAN domain, none
> of which is of interest.  What I can't find is any way to browse
> other LAN domains or connect to resources on them (things I can do
> on NT, but I want OS/2).
>

In order to view machines on another domain you need
to have that domain name listed in the OTHDOMAINS
parameter in the IBMLAN.INI file. This lets the
net view command display the other domain's
machines.

The OTHDOMAINS parameter is listed in the [requester]
section at the beginning of the file.

AFAIK each domain in the list has to separated by a comma
ie: othdomains=domone, domtwo

This presumes that your RFCNAMES.LST has the IP
addresses of the servers in that domain, or you have
some other method that provides routing to the
other sub-net for access to the servers through
TCPBEUI.

I think that the User ID and password on the second
domain has to be the same as the one you log into, unless
you use the NSC (Network Services Co-ordinator)
(I think that is what the multiple ID password control
program is called).

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From: [e-mail]                                12-Nov-99 00:26:18
  To: All                                               12-Nov-99 05:21:02
Subj: Re: Setting up all the stuff I need for Merlin

From: [e-mail] (Will Honea)

On Thu, 11 Nov 1999 19:59:48, [e-mail]@mail.beol.net wrote:

> Hey folks, I'm going to beg your assistance here.
>
> I've been running Warp for several years, and now that I'm getting
> back into OS/2 development again I am upgrading to Merlin and getting
> the latest versions of the development tools to install. The problem
> is that I've been working in a totally different environment lately,
> and haven't kept up on the technology, so I'm having some difficulty.
> I've got VACpp V3, and I have an as-yet uninstalled copy of VAJava,
> and I want to go to the latest Netscape, and I want to do something
> about that old PostRoad I was running... wait, let me tell you where
> I am.
>
> I downloaded FP12, and CSF 1.41 first. Then I installed Warp V4, an
> interesting experience that went _MUCH_ more smoothly after I disabled
> the hardware sensing. Note that I had been running Warp V4 at work for
> a few years, so I was reasonably familiar with the installation
> procedures and the software itself. However, at home I have no network
> card, so I was surprised that I was required to configure MPTN and a
> NULLNDIS mac, even though I initially decided not to install TCP/IP.
> Once I had the system stabilized, particularly getting my ZOOM modem
> recognized and working with SIO, I installed sound support, and TCP/IP.
> Once those all worked, I installed the fixpack, which went remarkably
> smoothly, and still permitted my system to work. (I had been unable to
> install fixpacks on Warp V3 because it blew away the video, so I had
> been running on Warp V3 for _many_ years without any fixes. Solid as a
> rock.)
>
> Ok, after getting FP12 loaded, I downloaded the latest fixes for DB2/2
> and VACpp V3. I figured I had to get DB2/2 installed first, so the
> data access pieces for VACpp would install. So, DB2/2 is installed and
> its fixes, and VACpp is installed and its fixes. Next is -- ?

You probably missed the updated DAX part - and Visual Builder support
for DB2 5+ is at best missing.

> I have downloaded the secure version of NC 4.61, I am downloading the
> JDK 1.1.8 and the Java runtime to go with it. I still have the VAJava
> to load, and I am trying to figure out the fixes for that. It looks
> from the web pages I've seen that I need the Feature Installer to
> install the Java stuff I downloaded, but I need Netscape to use the
> Feature Installer, but I need to have Java installed before getting
> Netscape going. This is nearly circular, unless there are portions
> I can install to get, uh, around that. I figure maybe the best route
> is to install VAJava, which likely has with it whatever I need to get
> Netscape going, so that I can then install the FI, which will let me
> install the new JRE and JDK over the top of the toolkit that VAJava
> requires. Have I got that right? And once I have all THAT going,
> where do I go to get that Java Media tool and the new Java-based
> mail tool?

Like you said: Whew!  OK, Warp 4 installed, good start. FP12 is next,
but get DD01 (they pulled the device driver upgrades out of the base
FP about fp10 or 11).  Next, uninstall Java 1.02
(OS2\INSTALL\INSTALL\Installed features, uninstall from the icon).
Boot.  Install Netscape 4.61 (no, it doesn't REQUIRE Java or FI).
Next is FI 1.25, then Java 1.1.8.  There is a note in the readmes
about a netscape\program\java\118 directory - read that since the
install probably missed it.  Tells you what to copy where.

Last step is to install VaJava.  Lotsa luck with the help system,
especially with DB2 in the mix.  That's the biggest mess I ever tried
to deal with!  Add VACPP 4.0 in and at least one help system is always
broke.

For Java tools, try these:
http://www-4.ibm.com/software/ad/vajava/
http://www.ibm.com/java/jdk/index.html

Those will get you going.





Will Honea <[e-mail]>

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From: [e-mail]                         11-Nov-99 08:55:28
  To: All                                               12-Nov-99 05:21:02
Subj: Re: Slow WPS file manipulation

From: "Arjen Meijer" <[e-mail]>

On Wed, 10 Nov 1999 17:28:08 +0100, Paul Floyd wrote:

:>Does anyone else have any ideas why it is so slow?

1. Upgrade to fixpack 12. The best and fastest OS/2. Fixpack 12 is up to two
time faster as fixpack 1.
2. Run checkini to speed up the WPS operations. Checkini removes all
inconsistencies and all irrelevant entries.
3. Remout the fist failure support technology in your config.sys
REM RUN=C:\OS2\SMSTART.EXE
4. Use the correct hard disk driver. I use
BASEDEV=IBM1S506.ADD /A:0 /!BM /A:1 /!BM
to disable the busmaster. Otherwise my harddisk is really slow.
What is your chipset? Look for the correct harddisk driver.

Arjen


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From: [e-mail]                                    11-Nov-99 16:53:04
  To: All                                               12-Nov-99 10:28:27
Subj: Re: Cable modems with more than 1 computer

From: [e-mail] (Dan Casey)

Your ISP may take issue with you having more than 1 computer
connected, and doing it the way you describe, below, will do just that
... show the ISP that more than one system is connected. Each system
will be assigned its own IP address.

A better way to do it is to use a 3rd party utility such as Injoy
Firewall from FX Communications. Run that on the OS/2 computer, with 2
network cards in it. One card for the connection to the Cable Modem
and the other card for the conection to the hub. The Injoy product
will allow you to use "Network Address Translation" (NAT) so that any
other system on the LAN can access the internet through the 1
connection. It also, in the case of Injoy Firewall, allows you to
setup a Firewall to the other system on the LAN (though it won't
protect the machine that the software is running on).

You can find info, download instructions, and pricing at:

http://www.fx.dk/



In article <PkBW3.89929$[e-mail]>,
[e-mail] (as) wrote:
>Many thanks to those that replied to my original
>question, everything is working great.  Now i'm
>ready for step 2 which is getting a second computer
>connected.  I have a hub and a second network card
>for the other computer.  I assume what happens next
>is that i disconnect the cable modem from the main
>computer and then plug the cable modem along with
>each computer into the hub.  The main computer which
>is running os/2 i want to be the server and the second
>computer running win95 will become the client i guess.
>So... at this point what do i need to do to make
>everything work?  Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
>
>
>

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From: [e-mail]                               12-Nov-99 14:43:16
  To: All                                               12-Nov-99 14:25:26
Subj: Re: difference between OS/2 warp server and OS/2 warp 4..

From: [e-mail] (Richard A Crane)

On Fri, 12 Nov 1999 03:59:05, [e-mail] wrote:

> In article <[e-mail]>,
>   [e-mail] (Christopher) wrote:
> >     to all the OS/2 user out there, could anyone tell me that what
> > is the difference between OS/2 Warp server and OS/2 Warp 4?
>
> One is around $150 and server is about $750. Server fully contains
> Warp 4 with in it. Server has SMP (for dual intel chips) Can operate
> as a network server if desired.
>
> There are more features, anyone care to add to list?
As I recall it Warp server actually supports more than dual
chip machines- I may not be right though memory isn't what
it used to be!
Richard A Crane
Barrister & Solicitor
slightly altered email (anti-spamming) rcrane AT
octa4.net.au
OR rcrane AT attglobal.net

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From: [e-mail]                               13-Nov-99 01:06:28
  To: All                                               12-Nov-99 21:25:09
Subj: Re: Sound Cards and OS/2

From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Bj=F8rn?= Vermo <[e-mail]>

Jerry Prather wrote:

> ...  On the AOpen site there is (supposedly) a driver
> for OS/2.  I downloaded it, and called AOpen tech support to
> confirm that it was in fact an auto-unpack file (I don't like
> clicking on .exe files without knowing what's going to happen).
> But when I double click on the file, I get a very Win 3.1 looking
> error box that says "Unexpected DOS error 23".

Try UNZIP -v on the file to see if it is in a normal zip format.
Usually, OS/2 unzip will work fine with Windows self-extracting
files.


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From: [e-mail]                          12-Nov-99 14:49:22
  To: All                                               12-Nov-99 21:25:09
Subj: Real Modem

From: Don McLeod <[e-mail]>

I have a 3Com/USR Internet Voice/Fax modem. I can't get the thing to run
under OS/2 Warp 4. It's NOT a WINMODEM. I can get it to run fine under
DOS, or Linux, but not Warp 4. Does anyone have any suggestions? I've
tried copying the initialize strings and using different modems types
but nothing seems to work.

Thank-you,
Zach McLeod
[e-mail]


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From: [e-mail]                          12-Nov-99 14:51:05
  To: All                                               12-Nov-99 21:25:09
Subj: Re: Help installing Warp 3

From: Don McLeod <[e-mail]>

You need to download new diskette images, from IBM's website.

Christopher J Houle wrote:

> Can someone help me install Warp on my system.
>
> I currently have several problems:
>
> 1. Fdisk could not recognize my > 4 gb drive. I was able to surmount this by
> downloading the drivers from ibm and including it on install disk 1.
>
> 2. I am unable to install all of the drivers from the driver file onto disk
> one because they wont fit. Is there any way around this ?
>
> 3. After getting disk 6 to install, the machine reboots and is just locked
up
> in dead black space. It will not go any further.
>
> If you can help please email me


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From: [e-mail]                 12-Nov-99 18:56:19
  To: All                                               12-Nov-99 21:25:09
Subj: Suspend mode?

From: "Dave" <[e-mail]>


I grabbed an ATX case and wondering how well OS/2 handles the suspend/deep
sleep stuff.
It could realy make thing nice.  The boots time is considerable.


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