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From: @tin.it                                           06-Nov-99 07:35:08
  To: All                                               06-Nov-99 05:25:27
Subj: Re: Styler/2 AKA SmartWindows Increases Performace?

From: @tin.it (Alessandro Cantatore)

In article <[e-mail]>,
Aaron Lawrence <[e-mail]> wrote:

 >I seem to recall that the Styler/2 docs say it will improve performance
 >by removing some redundant black and white resources (now obsolete) and
 >the like from dialogs etc.

This is probably stated in the Dialog Enhancer documentation...
I never wrote such a thing (and I do not know either if that statement
is in any case valid)
My program substitutes some parts of the procedures of some kind of
PM controls with its own code.
Somebody else in past wrote me he got the feeling of performance increase.
I did nothing to improve performance... it might be a side effect
showing in some particular cases... I would rather expect a slight
decrease of performance, usually in the range of microseconds so
nothing detectable in the normal use or from programs like sysbench...

--
bye
Alessandro Cantatore
email reply to: alexcant at: tin.it
http://acsoft.ghostbbs.cx

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  To: All                                               06-Nov-99 05:25:28
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From: [e-mail]                            06-Nov-99 00:05:29
  To: All                                               06-Nov-99 05:25:28
Subj: Re: A clip from DOJ judge on OS/2

From: Lee Reilly <[e-mail]>

[e-mail] wrote:

> a. OS/2 Warp
>
>                  46. IBM's inability to gain widespread developer support
>                  for its OS/2 Warp operating system illustrates how the
>                  massive Windows installed base makes it prohibitively
>                  costly for a rival operating system to attract enough
>                  developer support to challenge Windows. In late 1994,
>                  IBM introduced its Intel-compatible OS/2 Warp operating
>                  system and spent tens of millions of dollars in an effort
>                  to attract ISVs to develop applications for OS/2 and in
>                  an attempt to reverse-engineer, or "clone," part of the
>                  Windows API set. Despite these efforts, IBM could obtain
>                  neither significant market share nor ISV support for OS/2
>                  Warp. Thus, although at its peak OS/2 ran
>                  approximately 2,500 applications and had 10% of the
>                  market for Intel-compatible PC operating systems, IBM
>                  ultimately determined that the applications barrier
>                  prevented effective competition against Windows 95.
>                  For that reason, in 1996 IBM stopped trying to convince
>                  ISVs to write for OS/2 Warp. IBM now targets the
>                  product at a market niche, namely enterprise customers
>                  (mainly banks) that are interested in particular types of
>                  application that run on OS/2 Warp. The fact that IBM no
>                  longer tries to compete with Windows is evidenced by
>                  the fact that it prices OS/2 Warp at about
>                  two-and-one-half times the price of Windows 98.
>
> Jim L
> Remove XX from address to Email
> Crooks and kooks will get guns regardless of laws.

And now just maybe all those who keep whining and blaming
IBM for refusing to release a Warp 5 client will understand why
IBM has not done so.  To do so would have given Microsoft all
the amunition they needed to say they were not a monopoly.
To those of us who use OS/2 we may not have seen IBM's
decision to concede to Windows but in the whole scheme of
things it was the best and wisest thing for IBM to do.

IBM will eventually offer a commercial OS/2 update.  It will be
sometime in 2000 and it will be quiet and aimed at those of
us who have stood by OS/2's side throughout this entire
Microsoft monopoly.  To this day OS/2 continues to out power
and out perform anything Microsoft has offered.  OS/2 is just
too damn good.

Lee Reilly


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From: [e-mail]                            06-Nov-99 03:06:26
  To: All                                               06-Nov-99 05:25:28
Subj: Possible lockups?

From: Nelson and Satasha Williams <[e-mail]>

I'm running Warp 4 with FP12 and I seem to be having a slight problem
with JPG files.  At least, I think so.  Every time I try to open a JPG
file, the default viewer just sits there, but never opens the file.  I
can only close it by opening the WINDOW LIST using both mouse buttons on
the desktop, then selecting it and CLOSE.  Can anyone tell me why this
seems to be happening?  It was doing it when I was running FP5 also.  An
excerpt from the error log follows.  Email or posting is fine.

Nelson

Date:    11/05/99
Time:    04:36:45 pm
Entry ID:    28
Severity:    2
Module Name:    PMWP.DLL
Directory Name:    C:\OS2\PMSHELL.EXE

Error Message:    A WorkPlace Shell Exception has occurred. Exception
Type: c0000005  Exception location: 006d5959


Probe ID:    1111

Template ID:    1111
Template Filename:    PMWP.REP

Dump Generated:    Yes
Trace File Generated:    No
Process Dump Generated:    No


--
Note: No Microsoft programs were used in the creation or distribution of
this message. If you
     are using a Microsoft program to view this message, be forewarned
that I am not responsible
     for any harm you may encounter as a result.


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From: [e-mail]                             06-Nov-99 00:17:04
  To: All                                               06-Nov-99 05:25:28
Subj: Re: A clip from DOJ judge on OS/2

From: "Doug Darrow" <[e-mail]>

On Sat, 06 Nov 1999 00:05:59 -0800, Lee Reilly wrote:

>IBM will eventually offer a commercial OS/2 update.  It will be
>sometime in 2000 and it will be quiet and aimed at those of
>us who have stood by OS/2's side throughout this entire
>Microsoft monopoly.  ...

...and then the alarm clock on my nightstand rang and awakened me from
my dream world, forcing me to face another day of reality instead.


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From: [e-mail]                                06-Nov-99 02:11:04
  To: All                                               06-Nov-99 05:25:28
Subj: It's kinda neat (kewl?)

From: [e-mail]

After forwarding enough spams to "abuse@" addresses, you eventually start
getting notes saying things like, "Due to your report, this operator has been
removed from service by us."  I don't even mind when I get one that says, "We
just removed them last week!"

Jim L
Remove XX from address to Email
Crooks and kooks will get guns regardless of laws.


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From: [e-mail]                        06-Nov-99 11:04:03
  To: All                                               06-Nov-99 10:27:24
Subj: Re: Need new tape backup

From: [e-mail] (John Poltorak)

In <[e-mail]>, Charles Christacopoulos
<[e-mail]> writes:
>"Camilla Cracchiolo (Camilla Cracchiolo, R.N.)" wrote:
>>
>> I have to get a new tape drive.
>Check http://www.cristie.com/
>I am looking to purchase one of their drives (admittedly a large
>autoloader) and they may be willing to bundle their backup software for
>os/2.  Well if you ask them nicely they will as they seem to bundle the
>Win95 crap with them.

I've been asking Cristie if they will be providing OS/2 drivers for the
Onstream
30/50 GB tape drives, and they hope to have something available in a month
or two. These drives seem too good to be true, pricewise, - no idea on
reliability though...

>--
>Remove REMOVE_ME to reply.
>-------------------------------------------------------------------
>Charles Christacopoulos, Secretary's Office, University of Dundee,
>Dundee DD1 4HN, (Scotland) United Kingdom.
>Tel: +44+(0)1382-344891. Fax: +44+(0)1382-201604.
>http://somis.ais.dundee.ac.uk/    (runs on OS/2)
>Scottish Search Maestro http://somis2.ais.dundee.ac.uk/ (runs on OS/2
>too)
--
John

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From: [e-mail]                               06-Nov-99 10:27:17
  To: All                                               06-Nov-99 10:27:24
Subj: DoVolIO Error

From: Frank Stolpmann <[e-mail]>

Hi,

in the last few days my system hung several times due to an internal
processing error:

WtHF: DoVolIO Error

I don't know why it is caused. Meanwhile I changed the ibm1s506.add to
danis506.add but that didn't change. After the error had occured chkdsk
had a lot to do and I got severe problems to restart my system.

Any hints?

I use 1 IDE HD (1,2 GB) and 2 SCSI HD (2x 4,3 GB); on the IDE HD resides
the OS/2 Bootmanager, Warp is in a logical partition on HD2.
My system: MSI 5169 motherboard, 128 MB SDRAM, Warp 4 FP10.


Bye.

Frank Stolpmann
[e-mail]
http://home.knuut.de/FStolpmann
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From: [e-mail]                               06-Nov-99 09:24:27
  To: All                                               06-Nov-99 10:27:24
Subj: Setting up a Micron TransPort Trek II

From: [e-mail]

I'm working on setting up my Micron TransPort Trek II to run OS/2 Warp
4as it's primary OS, but running into a bit of difficulty.  This is the
first time I've tried to deal with OS/2 on a laptop and I'm not quite
sure how PCMCIA works.  When I go to install it it presents me a list
of computers all of which are well well older than the machine I'm
trying to run this on.

Is there some sort of update/upgrade I need to do?  Are PCMCIA slots
standard?  It seems strange that it would need to be propriatary based
on the laptop I'm using.

-JR


Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.

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From: [e-mail]                                 06-Nov-99 13:50:15
  To: All                                               06-Nov-99 14:35:29
Subj: Re: MicroSoft a Monopoly?!?!

From: Dave yadallee <[e-mail]>


Dennis Peterson wrote:

> David McKenna wrote:
> >
> >    Who wooda thunk it?!
> >
> > Read all about it at:
> >
> > http://www.nytimes.com/library/tech/yr/mo/biztech/articles/05findings.html
> >
> >
>
> I had no idea. Maybe it's a hoax.
>
> --
> dp

Supreme Court in the USA said yes and Microsoft still has the boxing gloves
on.

Maybe this means wyou will be able to run 32-bit Windows Apps on OS/2 V 4 soon

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From: [e-mail]                                    06-Nov-99 07:31:19
  To: All                                               06-Nov-99 14:35:29
Subj: Re: OS/2 Warp 3 Boot Manager

From: [e-mail] (James Knott)

In article <7vrknb$but$[e-mail]>,
"Warren Won" <[e-mail]> wrote:
>I am new to this newsgroup, so please forgive me if this question has
>already been asked a million times.....
>
>I am trying to run FDISK (from my OS/2 Warp 3 installation disks) on a 13Gb
>IDE hard disk, so I can run Boot Manager. However, it will not recognise
>anything over 8Gb and ends up trashing everything I have on any partitions
>at the end of the disk.
>
>I know that there were issues with the 1024 cylinder boundary, but are there
>any updates to FDISK that fix this (and if so, where can I get my grubby
>paws on them)?

Get the latest IDEDASD.EXE from the fixpak site.  It will handle up to
~32 GB drives, which is the limit for the IDE interface.

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From: [e-mail]                                    06-Nov-99 08:47:10
  To: All                                               06-Nov-99 14:35:29
Subj: Re: Microsoft Ruled Monopoly

From: [e-mail] (James Knott)

I wonder if the full text is available for download somewhere?

In article <[e-mail]>,
Jonathan Seder <[e-mail]> wrote:
>Yahoo has the full text of Judge Thomas Penfield Jackson's decision at
>http://biz.yahoo.com/msft/
>
>There are five references to OS/2:
>
>http://biz.yahoo.com/msft/p4.html
>MICROSOFT'S POWER IN THE RELEVANT MARKET
>III. 33. Microsoft enjoys so much power in the market for
>Intel-compatible PC operating systems that if it wished to exercise this
>power solely in terms of price, it could charge a price for  Windows ...
>
>http://biz.yahoo.com/msft/p12.html
>Giving Internet Explorer Away and Rewarding Firms that Helped Build Its
>Usage Share
>E. 136. In addition to improving the quality of Internet Explorer,
>Microsoft sought to increase the product's share of browser usage by
>giving it away for free....
>
>http://biz.yahoo.com/msft/p18.html
>Preventing OEMs from Removing the Ready Means of Accessing Internet
>Explorer and from Promoting Navigator in the Boot Sequence b. 202. Since
>the release of Internet Explorer 1....
>
>http://biz.yahoo.com/msft/p10.html
>The Similar Experiences of Other Firms in Dealing with Microsoft C. 93.
>Other firms in the computer industry have had encounters with Microsoft
>similar to the experiences of Netscape described above....
>
>http://biz.yahoo.com/msft/p5.html
>Viable Alternatives to Windows C. 53. That Microsoft's market share and
>the applications barrier to entry together endow the company with
>monopoly power in the market for Intel-compatible PC operating systems
>is directly evidenced...

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From: [e-mail]                                    06-Nov-99 09:01:08
  To: All                                               06-Nov-99 14:35:29
Subj: Re: A clip from DOJ judge on OS/2

From: [e-mail] (Dan Casey)

In article <[e-mail]>,
Lee Reilly <[e-mail]> wrote:
>
>And now just maybe all those who keep whining and blaming
>IBM for refusing to release a Warp 5 client will understand why
>IBM has not done so.  To do so would have given Microsoft all
>the amunition they needed to say they were not a monopoly.
>To those of us who use OS/2 we may not have seen IBM's
>decision to concede to Windows but in the whole scheme of
>things it was the best and wisest thing for IBM to do.


IBM's decision to stop fighting Microsoft in the "Desktop Wars" was
purely a business decision. It simply cost too much money to keep
chasing a "moving target" (Win32s APIs). Back when IBM made that
decision, there was no way to forecast the outcome of the DOJ
investigation.

However, it seems that IBM's decision at the time had an impact on the
DOJ investigation, at least with regards to OS/2's acceptance into the
Desktop marketplace.


>IBM will eventually offer a commercial OS/2 update.  It will be
>sometime in 2000 and it will be quiet and aimed at those of
>us who have stood by OS/2's side throughout this entire
>Microsoft monopoly.  To this day OS/2 continues to out power
>and out perform anything Microsoft has offered.  OS/2 is just
>too damn good.
>
>Lee Reilly

I don't know about "Quiet" ... but this statement just may be more
than wishful thinking or extreme optimism. IBM is well known for not
tipping their hand. We all know that it's possible to create a Client
from the current Server offering .... but it does take time and money
... and ultimately it will be IBM's decision, based on allocation of
funds, as to whether or not to do that.

We have to keep in mind that Judge Jackson's findings are certainly
not detrimental to the continued use of and development for OS/2 (or
any other OS, including Linux). At the same time, it can't be seen as
a door swinging wide open. The DOJ investigation has simply confirmed
what we've believed for a long time. But it will be interesting to
see what comes of it.

And OS/2 will continue to operate our computers for a long time to
come. And it will continue to get updates and new device drivers. They
may not come from IBM, but they will come. nonetheless.


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From: [e-mail]                                    06-Nov-99 09:19:25
  To: All                                               06-Nov-99 14:35:29
Subj: Re: OS2Ezine

From: [e-mail] (Dan Casey)

I believe the new system is scheduled to go online January 1, 2000.
Look for more news and information as that date approaches.

In article <TNkoV2GE2KH2-pn2-doRTtmYzGIkg@localhost>,
[e-mail] (David T. Anderson) wrote:
>On Thu, 4 Nov 1999 04:30:14, Martin Nisshagen
><[e-mail]> wrote:
>
>> Tony Eamick [Prodigy Internet http://www.prodigy.com] -> comp.os.os2.misc:
>>
>> ε Has OS2Ezine closed up or changed url's ? I have been checking there for
>>
>> Not at all. They have redesigned the site and now they work on a new
>> publishing system for it (to be able to manage it more effectively).
>
>Yes, but it's sure a long time since any news about this has come down
>the pike.  WarpCast is still in operation, so I guess they're still
>there, but in these uncertain times for OS/2 [even MORE uncertain], it
>would be nice to get some reassurance....
>
>David T. Anderson
>Calgary, Alberta
>http://www.agt.net/public/dtander/
>
>Using ProNews/2 for OS/2 Warp
>
>**NOSPAM**  To email me, remove the 's' from my address...

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*  V.O.I.C.E. (Virtual OS/2 International Consumer Education *
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From: [e-mail]                           06-Nov-99 14:58:13
  To: All                                               06-Nov-99 14:35:29
Subj: Re: OS2Ezine

From: "Brad Hubley" <[e-mail]>

According to Chris Wright
(http://www.os2ezine.com/ubb/Forum15/HTML/000029.html) it might actually be
up this Sunday!

Brad


On Sat, 06 Nov 1999 09:19:50 -0500, Dan Casey wrote:

>I believe the new system is scheduled to go online January 1, 2000.
>Look for more news and information as that date approaches.
>
>In article <TNkoV2GE2KH2-pn2-doRTtmYzGIkg@localhost>,
>[e-mail] (David T. Anderson) wrote:
>>On Thu, 4 Nov 1999 04:30:14, Martin Nisshagen
>><[e-mail]> wrote:
>>
>>> Tony Eamick [Prodigy Internet http://www.prodigy.com] -> comp.os.os2.misc:
>>>
>>>   Has OS2Ezine closed up or changed url's ? I have been checking there for
>>>
>>> Not at all. They have redesigned the site and now they work on a new
>>> publishing system for it (to be able to manage it more effectively).
>>
>>Yes, but it's sure a long time since any news about this has come down
>>the pike.  WarpCast is still in operation, so I guess they're still
>>there, but in these uncertain times for OS/2 [even MORE uncertain], it
>>would be nice to get some reassurance....
>>
>>David T. Anderson
>>Calgary, Alberta
>>http://www.agt.net/public/dtander/
>>
>>Using ProNews/2 for OS/2 Warp
>>
>>**NOSPAM**  To email me, remove the 's' from my address...
>
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From: david.paisley@nospam                              06-Nov-99 14:59:11
  To: All                                               06-Nov-99 14:35:29
Subj: Java 1.18 update

From: david.paisley@nospam (David Paisley)

There appears to be a new Java update Nov 5, 99, build o118-19991026
ftp://ncc.hursley.ibm.com/pub/java/fixes/os2/11/118/

David Paisley
Toronto, Ontario, Canada

anti spam replace "nospam" with "sympatico.ca"

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From: [e-mail]                         06-Nov-99 08:56:27
  To: All                                               06-Nov-99 14:35:29
Subj: Re: A clip from DOJ judge on OS/2

From: "Dave {Reply Address in.sig}" <[e-mail]>

On Sat, 06 Nov 1999 00:42:55 -0500, [e-mail] wrote:

[snip]
>                 application that run on OS/2 Warp. The fact that IBM no
>                 longer tries to compete with Windows is evidenced by
>                 the fact that it prices OS/2 Warp at about
>                 two-and-one-half times the price of Windows 98.
>
But OS/2 is more comparable to Windoze NT in its capabilities (albeit
still better), given that Windoze98 is still basically a DOS shell. The
same problem occurred in the days of Win3.1, OS/2 was seen as a
competitor when it was in fact vastly ahead in terms of performance.

Ah well, chances are that Emperor Bill already has an appeal ready in
case he doesn't score a 100% victory in the court case.


Dave
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From: [e-mail]...               06-Nov-99 16:24:10
  To: All                                               06-Nov-99 14:36:00
Subj: Re: MicroSoft a Monopoly?!?!

Message sender: [e-mail]

From: [e-mail] (Rod Smith)

In article <[e-mail]>,
    Dave yadallee <[e-mail]> writes:
>
>
> Supreme Court in the USA said yes and Microsoft still has the boxing gloves
on.

The Supreme Court wasn't involved in the findings that were released
yesterday (11/5/99).  Some commentators have speculated that it will reach
the Supreme Court, but I can't imagine that happening for years.

> Maybe this means wyou will be able to run 32-bit Windows Apps on OS/2 V 4
soon

"Soon?"  No, at least not when measured by "Internet time."  The latest
item is simply a finding of facts, not a ruling.  When a ruling comes
down, it's virtually certain to be appealed, so there won't be any impact
from the court case on the ability of any OS to run Windows programs until
the appeals have run their course.

--
Rod Smith       [e-mail]
http://members.bellatlantic.net/~smithrod
Author of _Special Edition Using Corel WordPerfect 8 for Linux_, from Que

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From: [e-mail]...               06-Nov-99 16:20:20
  To: All                                               06-Nov-99 14:36:00
Subj: Re: Microsoft Ruled Monopoly

Message sender: [e-mail]

From: [e-mail] (Rod Smith)

[Posted and mailed]

In article <[e-mail]>,
    [e-mail] (James Knott) writes:
>
> I wonder if the full text is available for download somewhere?

Many places by now.  I got it from the New York Times web site
(http://www.nytimes.com).  There's a story on the findings, which has a
link to the full text in HTML format.  It's about 80 pages when printed in
9-point Times.  I'm about 1/3 of the way through it.

--
Rod Smith       [e-mail]
http://members.bellatlantic.net/~smithrod
Author of _Special Edition Using Corel WordPerfect 8 for Linux_, from Que

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From: [e-mail]                             06-Nov-99 09:00:15
  To: All                                               06-Nov-99 14:36:00
Subj: Re: Setting up a Micron TransPort Trek II

From: [e-mail]

JR,

There are only a few basic PCMCIA (PC Card) chip sets. If you can
determine the maker of your chip set and use the driver for a laptop
that has a similar brand of PCMCIA chip set, it should work. I've
had to do that in the past with great success; however, I do not
know which chip set your Transport uses nor which other laptops
might use the same one.

I suggest you visit the OS/2 laptop site at
http://www.os2ss.com/users/DrMartinus/Notebook.htm to see if there
is any useful information there.

A year or two ago the Micron Transport required a replacement floppy
driver for OS/2. This driver was available for download on the
Micron site. I don't know if the newer models require it also, but
if you have any problems with the floppy drive you might check for
that driver.

Bob

In <800s57$6bq$[e-mail]>, on 11/06/99
   at 09:24 AM, [e-mail] said:

>I'm working on setting up my Micron TransPort Trek II to run OS/2
>Warp 4as it's primary OS, but running into a bit of difficulty.
>This is the first time I've tried to deal with OS/2 on a laptop and
>I'm not quite sure how PCMCIA works.  When I go to install it it
>presents me a list of computers all of which are well well older
>than the machine I'm trying to run this on.

>Is there some sort of update/upgrade I need to do?  Are PCMCIA
>slots standard?  It seems strange that it would need to be
>propriatary based on the laptop I'm using.

>-JR


>Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
>Before you buy.

--
-----------------------------------------------------------
Bob Stephan [e-mail] or [e-mail]
  Happily using OS/2 Warp on the Central California Coast.
   http://www.redshift.com/~bstephan
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From: [e-mail]                                 06-Nov-99 17:46:26
  To: All                                               06-Nov-99 16:43:23
Subj: Re: Need new tape backup

From: "Steve Snyder" <[e-mail]>

On Sat, 06 Nov 1999 17:37:50 GMT, Stephen Eickhoff (remove the - to reply)
wrote:
>"Camilla Cracchiolo (Camilla Cracchiolo, R.N.)" wrote:
[snip]
>> I'm considering a Seagate SCSI 8 Gig backup.  Anyone here have
>> experience with this drive?  Also, I'm currently using Backmaster.
>> Will it support this tape drive or do I have to get BackAgain/2?
>>
>> Please send me an e-mail copy of any replies you post to the
>> newsgroup.
>
>I have the ST8000N and use it with Novaback. It works great, I usually get
>about 38MB/min
>with it. You MUST get a cleaner kit, though, and use it every few backups. I
>let my drive get dirty and had to use three swabs on it just to do a full
>restore.

I too have a ST8000N which I use with Seagate's Backup Exec.  As
noted above, this drive is fast.  I'm very happy with it.


***** Steve Snyder *****



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From: [e-mail]                   06-Nov-99 19:29:03
  To: All                                               06-Nov-99 16:43:23
Subj: Re: DoVolIO Error

From: "Frank-Rainer Grahl" <[e-mail]>

On Sat, 6 Nov 1999 10:27:35 GMT, Frank Stolpmann wrote:

>>Hi,
>>
>>in the last few days my system hung several times due to an internal
>>processing error:
>>
>>WtHF: DoVolIO Error

It looks like one of your drives is about to fail. Try to identify the failing

drive and move all data off it fast. I suspect it's the drive where chkdsk
finds
the most errors.

 Regards
 Frank-Rainer Grahl
 ([e-mail]  [e-mail])


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From: [e-mail]                                   06-Nov-99 11:16:23
  To: All                                               06-Nov-99 16:43:23
Subj: Re: Microsoft Ruled Monopoly

From: Michael Rezsutek <[e-mail]>

You can also download the PDF version from http://usvms.gpo.gov,
although its about 206 pages long.

James Knott wrote:
>
> I wonder if the full text is available for download somewhere?
>
> In article <[e-mail]>,
> Jonathan Seder <[e-mail]> wrote:
> >Yahoo has the full text of Judge Thomas Penfield Jackson's decision at
> >http://biz.yahoo.com/msft/
> >
> >There are five references to OS/2:
> >
> >http://biz.yahoo.com/msft/p4.html
> >MICROSOFT'S POWER IN THE RELEVANT MARKET
> >III. 33. Microsoft enjoys so much power in the market for
> >Intel-compatible PC operating systems that if it wished to exercise this
> >power solely in terms of price, it could charge a price for  Windows ...
> >
> >http://biz.yahoo.com/msft/p12.html
> >Giving Internet Explorer Away and Rewarding Firms that Helped Build Its
> >Usage Share
> >E. 136. In addition to improving the quality of Internet Explorer,
> >Microsoft sought to increase the product's share of browser usage by
> >giving it away for free....
> >
> >http://biz.yahoo.com/msft/p18.html
> >Preventing OEMs from Removing the Ready Means of Accessing Internet
> >Explorer and from Promoting Navigator in the Boot Sequence b. 202. Since
> >the release of Internet Explorer 1....
> >
> >http://biz.yahoo.com/msft/p10.html
> >The Similar Experiences of Other Firms in Dealing with Microsoft C. 93.
> >Other firms in the computer industry have had encounters with Microsoft
> >similar to the experiences of Netscape described above....
> >
> >http://biz.yahoo.com/msft/p5.html
> >Viable Alternatives to Windows C. 53. That Microsoft's market share and
> >the applications barrier to entry together endow the company with
> >monopoly power in the market for Intel-compatible PC operating systems
> >is directly evidenced...
>
> --
> E-mail [e-mail]
> _________________________________________________________________________
> The above opinions are my own and not those of ISM Corp., a subsidiary of
> IBM Canada Ltd.

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From: [e-mail]                            06-Nov-99 18:25:17
  To: [e-mail]                             06-Nov-99 16:43:23
Subj: Re: Athlon, ASUS K7M Motherboard, and OS/2

To: "David T. Johnson" <[e-mail]>
From: Stefan Sobina <[e-mail]>

Hi David,
can u send me that IDE-driver (IBM1S506.add for those big hd)?
or can u give me the URL where to get it?

thanx

cu
Stefan

"David T. Johnson" schrieb:

> Here's my OS/2 experience with an ASUS K7M Athlon motherboard.
>
> Installation:  I installed with a 7200 RPM 13.4 GB IDE UDMA/66 hard
> drive.  I got the updated IBM IDE drivers for >8.4 GB and updated the
> installation disks.  The 7/99 (newest AFAIK) IBM1S506.ADD driver did not
> work properly.  There was some sort of timeout delay problem that made
> each installation screen take something like 5 minutes to appear.
> Knowing that the ASUS Athlon motherboard has the AMD Irongate chipset, I
> juiced the Installtion disk 1 by copying the 10/31/99 version of the
> DANIS506.ADD file to the installtion disk and renaming it as
> IBM1S506.ADD to keep the install program happy.  I also used the updated
> IBM files IBMIDECD.FLT and OS2DASD.DMD on Installation Disk 1.  I added
> an updated FDISK.COM and OS2CDROM.DMD to the installation disk 2.  This
> installation disk setup worked perfectly.  Daniela Engert has done an
> excellent job in supporting the AMD Irongate chipset for OS/2 with here
> DANIS506.ADD driver!  Finally, I had to set the hard disk to LBA to get
> the FDISK program to allow it to be set as "Installable."
>
> The installation with a 44x CD-ROM, and the UDMA66 IDE disk was
> extremely fast, kind of like OS/2 on steroids.  After installation, I
> installed the IBM Theseus 3 program to check the system memory
> availability.  I am happy to report, with the ASUS AMI Bios, OS/2 seems
> to find all of the memory, even the memory greater than 64 MB.  The BIOS
> setup has a "Boot to OS/2 Memory > 64 MB" option.  My experience was
> that OS/2 found all of the memory, no matter which way this was set.
>
> In summary, OS/2 v4 seems to work very well with the ASUS motherboard.
> I haven't tested the USB ports yet.

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From: [e-mail]                            06-Nov-99 10:46:12
  To: All                                               06-Nov-99 16:43:23
Subj: Re: OS/2 Printer

From: Chuck McKinnis <[e-mail]>

I have one from buysurplus.com.  Shipped direct from Lexmark.  Standard
PostScript 2, so it works on most operating systems.  Was designed and
marketed as a SOHO/small business printer, and is probably more rugged
than the Z model home printers.  Uses the same cartriges as the Z, so
they are readily available.

Terry Haimann wrote:
>
> I am in the market for a new printer and the Lexmark Optra 40 was
> recommended.  I have checked our local Best Buy & CompUSA and they don't
> carry that model.  What they do have are Lexmark Z series of printers and as
> I have said before what I really need is a printer that will be freindly to
> both os/2 and Linux.  Are one of these printers a renamed Optra Color 40?
It
> needs to be a model that has its own memory and on board processor (NO Win
> Printers) and I am also open to getting either a HP or an Epson if I can get
> a driver that will work.
>
> Thx     Terry

--
Chuck McKinnis
Senior Systems Engineer
Denver Solutions Group, Inc.
IBM Business Partner
IBM Senior Systems Engineer (retired)

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From: [e-mail]                              06-Nov-99 17:37:25
  To: All                                               06-Nov-99 16:43:23
Subj: Re: Need new tape backup

From: "Stephen Eickhoff (remove the - to reply)" <[e-mail]>

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"Camilla Cracchiolo (Camilla Cracchiolo, R.N.)" wrote:

> I have to get a new tape drive.  I've got a HP Traven T-3000.
>
> I'd like to get away from HP products altogether.  They have great
> tech support, but I suspect that's because their products die so
> often.  (Long history of failures here).
>
> I'm considering a Seagate SCSI 8 Gig backup.  Anyone here have
> experience with this drive?  Also, I'm currently using Backmaster.
> Will it support this tape drive or do I have to get BackAgain/2?
>
> Please send me an e-mail copy of any replies you post to the
> newsgroup.

I have the ST8000N and use it with Novaback. It works great, I usually get
about 38MB/min
with it. You MUST get a cleaner kit, though, and use it every few backups. I
let my drive get dirty and had to use three swabs on it just to do a full
restore.

Backmaster 2 should support the drive, but I dumped them a while ago because
the program
was so slow. Novaback is nice because they include Windows and OS/2 versions
in the same box.

--
----------------------------------
         Stephen Eickhoff
          Havertown, PA
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From: [e-mail]                                06-Nov-99 14:44:03
  To: All                                               06-Nov-99 16:43:23
Subj: Re: MicroSoft a Monopoly?!?!

From: [e-mail]

Dave yadallee <[e-mail]> said:

>> I had no idea. Maybe it's a hoax.
>>
>> --
>> dp

>Supreme Court in the USA said yes and Microsoft still has the boxing gloves
>on.

Yes to what?  The Supreme Court said the decision is a hoax?  When?  Where?

Jim L
Remove XX from address to Email
Crooks and kooks will get guns regardless of laws.


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From: [e-mail]                                06-Nov-99 14:46:03
  To: All                                               06-Nov-99 16:43:23
Subj: Re: MicroSoft a Monopoly?!?!

From: [e-mail]

[e-mail] (Rod Smith) said:

>it's virtually certain to be appealed, so there won't be any impact from the
>court case on the ability of any OS to run Windows programs until the appeals
>have run their course.

Gimme a "T."  Gimme a "W."  Gimme a...  Oh, shoot.  Just give me twenty years.

Jim L
Remove XX from address to Email
Crooks and kooks will get guns regardless of laws.


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From: [e-mail]                                  06-Nov-99 21:10:03
  To: All                                               06-Nov-99 16:43:23
Subj: Microsoft findings on CDROM

From: [e-mail]

On November 5, 1999, Judge Thomas Jackson released his finding of facts
in the US vs Microsoft case. It is being called the most important legal
decision of the 20th Century by many.  Quiet Vision brings you the entire
decision on searchable CDROM.  A must have for investors and anyone with
a computer.

<A HREF="http://www.quietvision.com">www.quietvision.com</A>

This book is in Electronic Paperback⌐ Format.  If you view this book on
a computer system, it will look like a book.  Simple to run, no program
to install.   Just put the CD in your CDROM drive and start reading.
The simple easy to use interface is child tested at pre-school levels.
This Electronic  Paperback⌐ has the Dynamic Index feature. Great for
preparing school reports and researching text. Just enter "Gates" on the
find page and then browse all the pages where Bill Gates figures in the
findings. The find feature will search whatever word or phrase you
enter.

Windows/95, Windows/98, OS/2, MacIntosh with Window Emulation, and LInux
with Window Emulation.

In a note of postic justice, the entire Electorinc Paperback process
is run of OS/2 systems. This includes all the virtual type setting done
in the last 20 hours. Even the CD is burned on OS/2 systems.

[e-mail]
<A HREF="http://www.quietvision.com">www.quietvision.com</A>
Home of the Electronic Paperback (R)

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From: [e-mail]                                   06-Nov-99 19:25:16
  To: All                                               06-Nov-99 16:43:23
Subj: Re: OS/2 Printer

From: [e-mail] (Ted Miller)

In message <[e-mail]> - "Terry
Haimann" <[e-mail]>Fri, 05 Nov 1999 20:48:39 -0500 (EST)
writes:
:>
:>I am in the market for a new printer and the Lexmark Optra 40 was
:>recommended.  I have checked our local Best Buy & CompUSA and they don't
:>carry that model.  What they do have are Lexmark Z series of printers and as

:>I have said before what I really need is a printer that will be freindly to
:>both os/2 and Linux.  Are one of these printers a renamed Optra Color 40?
It
:>needs to be a model that has its own memory and on board processor (NO Win
:>Printers) and I am also open to getting either a HP or an Epson if I can get
:>a driver that will work.
:>
:>Thx    Terry
:>
:>

Hello Terry

I believe that the Z series are just a continuation of the 3200 - 5700 series
of printers in which case they are win printers and are completely dependent
on the driver supplied. The Optra 40 is a different animal and has
Postscript/PCL5 emulations and the ability to take up to 36 megs of memory. I
have read that the Optra 40 is completely compatible with Linux and I can
personally vouch that it is OS/2 friendly. The Optra 40 is a discontinued
model so you will have to look around to get one. I purchased mine on Ebay.

Ted Miller
[e-mail]



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From: [e-mail]                                06-Nov-99 14:32:00
  To: All                                               06-Nov-99 16:43:23
Subj: Re: A clip from DOJ judge on OS/2

From: [e-mail]

"Doug Darrow" <[e-mail]> said:
>>IBM will eventually offer a commercial OS/2 update.  It will be
>>sometime in 2000 and it will be quiet and aimed at those of
>>us who have stood by OS/2's side throughout this entire
>>Microsoft monopoly.  ...

>....and then the alarm clock on my nightstand rang and awakened me from my
>dream world, forcing me to face another day of reality instead.

ROTFLMAO!!!!!!  Too true!

Jim L
Remove XX from address to Email
Crooks and kooks will get guns regardless of laws.


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From: [e-mail]                                06-Nov-99 14:34:21
  To: All                                               06-Nov-99 16:43:23
Subj: Re: A clip from DOJ judge on OS/2

From: [e-mail]

[e-mail] (Dan Casey) said:

>I don't know about "Quiet" ... but this statement just may be more than
wishful
>thinking or extreme optimism. IBM is well known for not tipping their hand.

Of course the tip of the hand works both ways.  So to paraphrase your words,
"this statement may just be wishful thinking or extreme optimism."  We know
exactly what we knew before about the future of OS/2.  Nothing.

Now it just may possibly be that the Stardock non-situation developed from IBM
having insider information on the outcome of the case - or at least some very
strong indications.

Jim L
Remove XX from address to Email
Crooks and kooks will get guns regardless of laws.


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From: [e-mail]                                06-Nov-99 14:40:15
  To: All                                               06-Nov-99 16:43:23
Subj: Re: A clip from DOJ judge on OS/2

From: [e-mail]

"Dave {Reply Address in.sig}" <[e-mail]> said:

>Ah well, chances are that Emperor Bill already has an appeal ready in case he
>doesn't score a 100% victory in the court case.

In the reports, MS is putting up an extremely strong rhetorical front at
least.
They have vowed to fight on in behalf of the consumer.

  H - A - H  !  !

Jim L
Remove XX from address to Email
Crooks and kooks will get guns regardless of laws.


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From: [e-mail]                      06-Nov-99 20:17:11
  To: All                                               06-Nov-99 16:43:23
Subj: Re: need file decompress class for JDK 1.0.2 (OS/2)

From: [e-mail] (Laurence V)

On 5 Nov 1999 14:17:50 GMT, Zeus Paleologos <[e-mail]>
wrote:

>I know that several file decompress classes exist for JDK 1.1
>but I thought I had seen some for JDK 1.0.  Does anyone know
>where I can find such?

Check out back issues of Dr. Dobbs magazine. I wrote an article on LZW
compression/decompression in Java (1.0 code).

  Laurence Vanhelsuwe

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From: [e-mail]                              06-Nov-99 21:53:15
  To: All                                               06-Nov-99 20:02:24
Subj: Re: Need new tape backup

From: James Moe <[e-mail]>


Steve Snyder wrote:
>
>
> I too have a ST8000N which I use with Seagate's Backup Exec.
>
    You do? I thought Seagate dropped os/2 support. The STT8000N came
out long after they stopped updating their os/2 program.

--

sma at rtd dot com
Remove ".spam-not" for email

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From: [e-mail]                               06-Nov-99 22:24:03
  To: All                                               06-Nov-99 20:02:24
Subj: Re: Need help with Ultimail on OS/2 WSeB

From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Bj=F8rn?= Vermo <[e-mail]>

[e-mail] wrote:

>
> since it is only possible to even HAVE two codepages on a system
> your complaint isn't the half of it

The limit of two codepages applies to what the user can switch between in VIO
sessions.
There is no limit to the number of codepages a PM application program may
read,
write, convert between or display. IBM have always supplied the tools, and
programmers have neglected to use them. There is even a place for the codepage
in
the standard EAs of a file, but it is poorly documented and never used.


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From: [e-mail]                                    04-Nov-99 08:48:28
  To: All                                               06-Nov-99 20:02:24
Subj: Re: Need help with Ultimail on OS/2 WSeB

From: Bob McLellan <[e-mail]>


Robert Basler wrote:

> I'm trying to get Ultimail 2.10.004 to work on OS/2 WSeB, I couldn't
> find any way to install just ultimail from the Warp 4 CD's, so I copied
> my UMAIL directory and mailstor over wholesale from my working Warp 4
> system, then put the SENDMAIL.UML file into the MPTN directory.  Note
> that all paths are the same on both systems.
>
> It will send and recieve mail as long as you are connected to the
> internet.
>
> If you are not connected and send a message, it says that it was queued
> successfully, but there is no message in the MQUEUE directory and the
> message text can be found in a file called DEADLET.TER in the MPTN\ETC
> directory.
>
> I have the ETC dir set to MPTN\ETC
>
> When I connect to the internet, it does not do the sendmail thing in the
> status window, but I suspect that this has more to do with there being
> no files in the MQUEUE directory, rather than some problem with that
> program feature.
>
> Suggestions???  I really want to stick to Ultimail since I have
> thousands of archived messages that I access regularly and have been
> very happy with the app in general to date.
>
> This is what I got when I ran UMCHECK.CMD
>
> The key "AURORASW /MAIL_GW" in D:\MPTN\ETC\TCPOS2.INI was not found!
> No "Mlocal" line was found in D:\MPTN\ETC\SENDMAIL.CF!
>
> Installation information:
>   The UltiMail provider is ADVANTIS
>   TMP = D:\TCPIP\TMP
>   ETC = D:\MPTN\ETC
>   SRV = D:\TCPIP\UMAIL\SERVER
>   CONNECTION = AURORASW
>   POPSRVR = mail.direct.ca
>   REPLY_DOMAIN = direct.ca
>   MQueue from SENDMAIL.CF:  D:\MPTN\ETC\MQUEUE
>   DD from SENDMAIL.CF:      Your.Domain
>   MQueue from SENDMAIL.UML: D:\MPTN\ETC\MQUEUE
>   Mlocal from SENDMAIL.UML: Mlocal  P=d:\tcpip\umail\umailer.exe
> F=lsmDFP
> S=10  R=0  A=-dest d:\tcpip\umail\server\inbox -to $u
>
> FYI my email address above is bogus, send email to: aurorasw direct ca
> after inserting appropriate ats and dots, thanks.

 Look up the INSTALL command in the TCPIP command reference. It tells you
how to set up a response file to select components of TCPIP for
installation. One of the components is Ultimail. Just run INSTALL with a
reponse file that selects only Ultimail. However, unless there is a specific
need for Ultimail, I wouldn't use it.

--
------------------------------------------------------
Bob McLellan
The Little Blue Kiwi
OS/2 Solutions for New Zeland


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From: [e-mail]                              06-Nov-99 21:39:11
  To: All                                               06-Nov-99 20:02:24
Subj: Re: MS-CHAP support in Warp4

From: James Moe <[e-mail]>


Dominique Pivard wrote:
>
>
> The beta version on Hobbes was labeled as a "PPP daemon" and the 1.0
> version as a "Firewall". Can it be used as a PPP client as well?

    Yes. Here the blurb from the recent announcement:

We are happy to present new beta of SafeFire PPP.

Main new features are:
 Callback support
 Advanced REXX API
 UPM authentication module.
 Improved documentation

SafeFire PPP is a new, powerful implementation of a PPP protocol.

Most notable SafeFire PPP features are:

    - PPP implementation compatible with latest RFC
    - Callback
    - Dial-On-Demand
    - Modular design
    - Three TCP/IP packet filters
    - NAT (Network Address Translation)
    - CCP (Compression Control Protocol)
    - PAP (Passoword Autentication Protocol)
    - CHAP (Challenge Authentication Protocol)
    - MS-CHAP (Microsoft extension for CHAP)
    - REXX API for connection script (compatible with standart PPP.EXE)
    - REXX API for authentication
    - REXX API for message processing
    - REXX API for message log processing
    - A set of pre-defined configuration files for most common cases:

Visit us at http://www.lgs.kiev.ua to get your copy.

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From: [e-mail]                                06-Nov-99 21:59:25
  To: All                                               06-Nov-99 20:02:24
Subj: OS2 e-Zine, new publishing systems, and a beta

From: [e-mail] (Chris Wenham)

On Sat, 6 Nov 1999 14:19:50, [e-mail] (Dan Casey) wrote:

> I believe the new system is scheduled to go online January 1, 2000.
> Look for more news and information as that date approaches.

 Chris Wright is putting together an issue the "old fashioned way"
(with all the scripts and stuff that built an issue offline, the HTML
files for which would then be FTPed to the server).
 I've been working on a new publishing system that's intended to
replace those scripts, but it'll be up to Falcon Networking which way
they want to go.

 I happen to be working on, and testing the publishing system at the
following staging area:

 http://blimey.netmonger.net/e-zine-ii/

 This is not guaranteed to be a stable staging area, nor is it meant
to be a "new address" for the e-Zine! It's also not set in stone that
this will be the future of the e-Zine!, since I don't own the
publication and can't dictate what happens to it.

Regards,

Chris Wenham - [e-mail]
Editor-In-Chief for OS/2 e-Zine!
http://www.os2ezine.com/
The views expressed are mine.

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From: [e-mail]                06-Nov-99 17:02:16
  To: All                                               06-Nov-99 20:02:24
Subj: Re: Trackball driver?

From: "Billy Ko" <[e-mail]>

On Mon, 01 Nov 99 00:26:43 GMT, Andrew Stephenson wrote:

:>I am certainly no fan of Micros~1...

Speaking of those guys, did you ever notice that once upon a time, MickeySoft
once sold both a left-handed and a right-handed version of their mouse?  Now
they only sell a right-handed version that said it was equally ergonomic for
both lefties and righties.  If it WAS equally ergonomic, then why did they
used to have a left-handed version?

Of course they eliminated the left-handed version because it didn't sell very
well, but to trick the consumer, they just tried to market the right-handed
mouse as being just as good for either hand.

Thanks a lot, MS.

Bill
Team OS/2

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four-letter words.



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From: [e-mail]                      06-Nov-99 22:08:10
  To: All                                               06-Nov-99 20:02:24
Subj: Re: Athlon, ASUS K7M Motherboard, and OS/2

From: [e-mail] (Carsten Frank)

On Fri, 5 Nov 1999 22:57:42, "David T. Johnson"
<[e-mail]> wrote:

> Here's my OS/2 experience with an ASUS K7M Athlon motherboard.
>
> Installation:  I installed with a 7200 RPM 13.4 GB IDE UDMA/66 hard
> drive.  I got the updated IBM IDE drivers for >8.4 GB and updated the
> installation disks.  The 7/99 (newest AFAIK) IBM1S506.ADD driver did not
> work properly.  There was some sort of timeout delay problem that made
> each installation screen take something like 5 minutes to appear.
> Knowing that the ASUS Athlon motherboard has the AMD Irongate chipset, I
> juiced the Installtion disk 1 by copying the 10/31/99 version of the
> DANIS506.ADD file to the installtion disk and renaming it as
> IBM1S506.ADD to keep the install program happy.  I also used the updated
> IBM files IBMIDECD.FLT and OS2DASD.DMD on Installation Disk 1.  I added
> an updated FDISK.COM and OS2CDROM.DMD to the installation disk 2.  This
> installation disk setup worked perfectly.  Daniela Engert has done an
> excellent job in supporting the AMD Irongate chipset for OS/2 with here
> DANIS506.ADD driver!  Finally, I had to set the hard disk to LBA to get
> the FDISK program to allow it to be set as "Installable."
>
> The installation with a 44x CD-ROM, and the UDMA66 IDE disk was
> extremely fast, kind of like OS/2 on steroids.  After installation, I
> installed the IBM Theseus 3 program to check the system memory
> availability.  I am happy to report, with the ASUS AMI Bios, OS/2 seems
> to find all of the memory, even the memory greater than 64 MB.  The BIOS
> setup has a "Boot to OS/2 Memory > 64 MB" option.  My experience was
> that OS/2 found all of the memory, no matter which way this was set.
>
> In summary, OS/2 v4 seems to work very well with the ASUS motherboard.
> I haven't tested the USB ports yet.

Are you shure that OS/2 detects all the memory. Can you check it with
some other utilitys like filecommander and other utilitys.

How much memory reports theseus? Can you post a screen shot

How much ISA Slots does the mainboard have.
Have you checked it with scitech display doctor. My friend has an
athlon board and scitech crashes all the time with the board(MSI and
Matrox G200)
My G200 works fine with my board.
Can you post a complete Sysbench benchmark( Im interested in all
categories)
Very good news

Ciao



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From: [e-mail]                                06-Nov-99 17:38:15
  To: All                                               06-Nov-99 20:02:24
Subj: Checkini feature now

From: [e-mail]

I just downloaded the newest checkini feature and found a GREAT new feature.
It
automatically backs up your INI files for you!

Jim L
Remove XX from address to Email
Crooks and kooks will get guns regardless of laws.


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From: [e-mail]                       06-Nov-99 23:57:02
  To: All                                               06-Nov-99 20:02:24
Subj: Re: Checkini feature now

From: Henk kelder <[e-mail]>

Next release will probably contain in internal WPSReset and an automatic
recovery of the backup ini-files if the WPS doesn't come up properly.

Henk

[e-mail] wrote:
>
> I just downloaded the newest checkini feature and found a GREAT new feature.
 It
> automatically backs up your INI files for you!
>
> Jim L
> Remove XX from address to Email
> Crooks and kooks will get guns regardless of laws.

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From: [e-mail]                        06-Nov-99 23:24:22
  To: All                                               06-Nov-99 21:41:10
Subj: Re: CD-RW as a plain CD only?

From: [e-mail] (Alex Taylor)

On 5 Nov 1999 15:30:06 GMT, rj friedman <[e-mail]> wrote:
> εOTOH, even a cheap CD-RW drive is 3-4 times more expensive than a
> εplain CD-ROM drive (which can be had for as cheap as $50 or so).
>
>
> Actually, I picked up two SCSI CD-RW drives (one Panasonic,
> one TEAC), for roughly US$ 100 apiece. Still more expensive
> - but only twice as expensive.  :-)

Ok, my mistake.  :)  I tend to think in Canadian dollars.

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 [e-mail]   http://eddie.cis.uoguelph.ca/~alex
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From: [e-mail]                              07-Nov-99 01:00:23
  To: All                                               06-Nov-99 21:41:10
Subj: resolv files w/ multiple ISPs

From: [e-mail]

I have two ISPs , a cable modem account and a dial-up with time left on
it.  Is it possible to set up my resolv and resolv2 files to reflect both
accounts?  Currently, my resolv* files contain only the cable account
domain information.


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From: [e-mail]                        07-Nov-99 00:13:22
  To: All                                               06-Nov-99 21:41:10
Subj: Re: Microsoft findings on CDROM

From: [e-mail] (John Poltorak)

In <8025fe$4pk$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] writes:
>On November 5, 1999, Judge Thomas Jackson released his finding of facts
>in the US vs Microsoft case. It is being called the most important legal
>decision of the 20th Century by many.  Quiet Vision brings you the entire
>decision on searchable CDROM.  A must have for investors and anyone with
>a computer.
>
><A HREF="http://www.quietvision.com">www.quietvision.com</A>
>
>This book is in Electronic Paperback⌐ Format.

What is 'Electronic Paperbook Format' ?

What executable do I run to access it?

I assume a native OS/2 format is available...

> If you view this book on
>a computer system, it will look like a book.  Simple to run, no program
>to install.   Just put the CD in your CDROM drive and start reading.
>The simple easy to use interface is child tested at pre-school levels.
>This Electronic  Paperback⌐ has the Dynamic Index feature. Great for
>preparing school reports and researching text. Just enter "Gates" on the
>find page and then browse all the pages where Bill Gates figures in the
>findings. The find feature will search whatever word or phrase you
>enter.
>
>Windows/95, Windows/98, OS/2, MacIntosh with Window Emulation, and LInux
>with Window Emulation.
>
>In a note of postic justice, the entire Electorinc Paperback process
>is run of OS/2 systems. This includes all the virtual type setting done
>in the last 20 hours. Even the CD is burned on OS/2 systems.
>
>[e-mail]
><A HREF="http://www.quietvision.com">www.quietvision.com</A>
>Home of the Electronic Paperback (R)
>

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From: [e-mail]                 06-Nov-99 17:03:09
  To: All                                               06-Nov-99 21:41:10
Subj: Re: MicroSoft a Monopoly?!?!

From: [e-mail] (Raphael Tennenbaum)

[e-mail] (Rod Smith) wrote:

>In article <[e-mail]>,
>    Dave yadallee <[e-mail]> writes:
>>
>>
>> Supreme Court in the USA said yes and Microsoft still has the boxing gloves
on.
>
>The Supreme Court wasn't involved in the findings that were released
>yesterday (11/5/99).  Some commentators have speculated that it will reach
>the Supreme Court, but I can't imagine that happening for years.
>
>> Maybe this means wyou will be able to run 32-bit Windows Apps on OS/2 V 4
soon
>
>"Soon?"  No, at least not when measured by "Internet time."  The latest
>item is simply a finding of facts, not a ruling.  When a ruling comes
>down, it's virtually certain to be appealed, so there won't be any impact
>from the court case on the ability of any OS to run Windows programs until
>the appeals have run their course.
>
>--
>Rod Smith       [e-mail]
>http://members.bellatlantic.net/~smithrod
>Author of _Special Edition Using Corel WordPerfect 8 for Linux_, from Que

Pure speculation but: while you may be right, I wouldn't be
altogether certain.  MS is at a critical juncture and might
decide they'd be better served placating some of their
commercial enemies.  Apart from some (perhaps meagre) p.r.
benefits, if they did something like open-source NT or parts
thereof; or, make a concerted effort to document APIs, it
might even stand a chance of making inroads with other
companies.  Even among his bitterest competitors there are
many to whom DOJ sanctions against ANY companies are
unpalatable -- including quite possibly IBM.

Again I don't really think it's likely to happen with OS/2,
either, but stranger things have certainly happened.  Who
knows -- maybe it's likelier to happen with Linux, or even
Be.

Of course it's also very likely that Mr G. is determined to
ride this horse till it drops, damn the consequences.  Will
be interesting to see if he gets contrite or not over the
next few weeks -- will his image handlers try to convince
him not to cry foul?

--
Ray Tennenbaum        '99 YZF-R6
readme@ http://www.ray-field.com

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From: [e-mail]                 06-Nov-99 17:42:00
  To: All                                               06-Nov-99 21:41:10
Subj: Re: Can OS/2 users grow up and think like Linux users?

From: [e-mail] (Raphael Tennenbaum)

[e-mail] wrote:

>On Sat, 22 Jan 2000 14:33:19, [e-mail]
>(Raphael Tennenbaum) wrote:
>
>> [e-mail] (John L. Daschbach) wrote:
>>
>> >schnip>
>> >
>> >    Perspective:
>> >    OS/2 (with Object Desktop) still has one of the best user
>> >interfaces going.  Much of this is because of the WPS and SOME.
>> >Nothing I have used or read about approaches OS/2 in terms of desktop
>> >power *and* configurability.  However this comes at a price, and that
>> >price is stability.  I have had OS/2 up for weeks, but at times,
>> >especially when using *real* applications, the WPS gets totally
>> >wacked, windows don't repaint, objects partially freeze on the screen,
>> >the system won't respond to keyboard or mouse.  This is typically when
>> >using the combination of Navigator and a Lotus product (WordPro, 123,
>> >Approach, Freelance).  The only solution is a hard reboot.  Other
>> >times programs have problems and there is no way to kill them, at
>> >least using the tools I have.  In other words, OS/2 when it works is
>> >great, when it doesn't it's hell.
>> >
>> >more schnip>
>> >
>> >    Thoughts?
>> >
>> >-John
>>
>>
>> Uh huh.  1) Uninstall OD, which is probably 95% of what's
>> kerflooey on your system.  Replace with freeware Xfolder.
>> 2) Apply the latest fix for Netscape 4.04.  3) Reinstall
>> your video drivers, especially if there's newer ones
>> available for your card.  4) Clean up your INI files with
>> Henk Kelder's wptools.
>>
>> -Ray
>>
>> --
>>
>> Ray Tennenbaum        '99 YZF-R6
>> readme@ http://www.ray-field.com
>
>Really?  I've been running OD1.5 since it came out, and kinda
>suspected it caused some instability, but was never certain.
>Especially since I couldn't directly attribute any 'hangs' to OD.
>Does it really cause instability problems?  Is it better in OD2.0?

To be honest, I can't tell you, since I heard so many horror
stories I never bothered with either.  My basic feeling is
that there's freeware or reasonably-priced shareware to do
everything (or practically everything) that OD does.  To
start with, have a look at Xfolder

   ftp://hobbes.nmsu.edu/pub/os2/util/wps/xfld085.zip

--
Ray Tennenbaum        '99 YZF-R6
readme@ http://www.ray-field.com

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From: [e-mail]                          07-Nov-99 01:10:23
  To: All                                               07-Nov-99 03:28:16
Subj: Re: MicroSoft a Monopoly?!?!

From: [e-mail] (Andrew Stephenson)

In article <nWKJ4oXf0/[e-mail]>
       raphaelt "Raphael Tennenbaum" writes:

> [...]
>
> Of course it's also very likely that Mr G. is determined to
> ride this horse till it drops, damn the consequences.  Will
> be interesting to see if he gets contrite or not over the
> next few weeks -- will his image handlers try to convince
> him not to cry foul?

All the M$ spokesdroids I have heard being interviewed since the
announcement on Friday have been singing from the same songsheet.
(Be oh-so-interesting to see copies of those internal emails King
Billy's staff must have been sending out.)  Their UK office, for
example, was giving vent to the "we're so cruelly misunderstood
and mistreated when all we've ever wanted was to give the world
this great technology" refrain today (sat6nov).  Sound familiar?

That horse could yet jump all the fences or refuse at the first.
--
Andrew Stephenson

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From: [e-mail]                                  07-Nov-99 01:28:23
  To: All                                               07-Nov-99 03:28:16
Subj: Re: Microsoft findings on CDROM

From: [e-mail]

In <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (John
Poltorak) writes:
>What is 'Electronic Paperbook Format' ?
>
A general format for presentation of ebooks on multiple operating
systems. Used by a number of publishers.

>What executable do I run to access it?
>
Executable are on the CDROM for support OS's

>I assume a native OS/2 format is available...
>
A native OS/2 driver is present on the CD.


[e-mail]
<A HREF="http://www.quietvision.com">www.quietvision.com</A>
Home of the Electronic Paperback (R)

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From: [e-mail]                                 07-Nov-99 02:07:16
  To: All                                               07-Nov-99 03:28:17
Subj: Re: Need new tape backup

From: "Steve Snyder" <[e-mail]>

On Sat, 06 Nov 1999 21:53:30 GMT, James Moe wrote:

>Steve Snyder wrote:
>>
>>
>> I too have a ST8000N which I use with Seagate's Backup Exec.
>>
>    You do? I thought Seagate dropped os/2 support. The STT8000N came
>out long after they stopped updating their os/2 program.

Maybe the STT8000N is compatible with some drive that is officially
supported.  In any case, Seagate Backup Exec v3.0 (file dates
are 10/31/96) *does* work with that tape drive.


***** Steve Snyder *****



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From: [e-mail]                    06-Nov-99 18:11:14
  To: All                                               07-Nov-99 03:28:17
Subj: Re: DoVolIO Error

From: "Graham C. Norris" <[e-mail]>

We had major problems with the L2 cache on one of these motherboards and
Win95 and 98. I've no idea if it is a common problem, but you might try
turning off the L2 cache (in the BIOS setup) for a while, this was the
only thing which allowed our 5169 to work reliably at all.

Graham.

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From: [e-mail]                          07-Nov-99 00:59:05
  To: All                                               07-Nov-99 03:28:17
Subj: Re: Trackball driver?

From: [e-mail] (Andrew Stephenson)

In article <ovyyxbcbfgbssvprjbeyqargnggarg.fksqk8
       [e-mail] "Billy Ko" writes:

> On Mon, 01 Nov 99 00:26:43 GMT, Andrew Stephenson wrote:
>
> :>I am certainly no fan of Micros~1...
>
> Speaking of those guys, did you ever notice that once upon a
> time, MickeySoft once sold both a left-handed and a
> right-handed version of their mouse?  [...]

Can't comment on the rest of what you said.  But, oddly, the old
Ball Point Mouse was genuinely reversible, owing to a symmetrical
construction.  The problem under Warp 4, if you wanted to use it
left-handed, would I suspect be to find a driver to activate the
other set of buttons properly.  (But I haven't tried, so am not a
reliable source on that point.)
--
Andrew Stephenson

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From: [e-mail]                               07-Nov-99 01:34:11
  To: All                                               07-Nov-99 03:28:17
Subj: Re: resolv files w/ multiple ISPs

From: [e-mail] (Mark Klebanoff)

On Sun, 7 Nov 1999 01:00:46, [e-mail] wrote:

> I have two ISPs , a cable modem account and a dial-up with time left on
> it.  Is it possible to set up my resolv and resolv2 files to reflect both
> accounts?  Currently, my resolv* files contain only the cable account
> domain information.
>
>
> -------------------------------

I have a similar setup.  My resolv file lists the dial in ISP, and
resolv2 lists the cable one.  Crazy perhaps, but it seems to work.

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From: [e-mail]                             06-Nov-99 18:07:08
  To: All                                               07-Nov-99 03:28:17
Subj: Re: Looking for a Hex editor.

From: "Doug Darrow" <[e-mail]>

>In article <[e-mail]>, Allen Cogbill
wrote:
>>On Mon, 01 Nov 1999 05:47:00 GMT, Edmond Dantes wrote:
>>
>>>I've tried a few of the hex editors on Hobbes and they all seem to
>>>crash regularly
>>>or lack features.  Can anyone tell me where I can get a stable,
>>>feature rich,
>>>native hex editor.
>>
>>The KON editor is an OS/2 PM editor that has a quite usable hex
>>editing mode...you may want to check it out (search for KON on
>>Hobbes).
>>
There's also X2 family of editors (from Blair Thompson) with versions
for OS/2, Win(16 and 32 bit), DOS, Linux and other *Nixes. It's
interface is very much like IBM's old DOS E.EXE or EPM. (or like TEDIT)
It's a VIO mode programmer's editor that's very powerful and will use
Rexx as a macro language on all of those platforms. It has a HEX mode
that works very nicely. And it's FREE. Check it out at:

http://www.interlog.com/~bwt/x2main.html




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From: [e-mail]                    06-Nov-99 18:16:05
  To: All                                               07-Nov-99 03:28:17
Subj: Re: Checkini feature now

From: "Graham C. Norris" <[e-mail]>

Henk kelder wrote:
> Next release will probably contain in internal WPSReset and an automatic
> recovery of the backup ini-files if the WPS doesn't come up properly.

Please make this optional (or at least disable-able)! My WPS has flat
out refused to restart since I installed FP11, I have to shutdown after
running checkini; an automatic backout would prevent checkini actually
doing anything at all!

Graham.

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From: [e-mail]                             06-Nov-99 19:38:26
  To: All                                               07-Nov-99 03:28:17
Subj: Re: Athlon, ASUS K7M Motherboard, and OS/2

From: "David T. Johnson" <[e-mail]>

Carsten Frank wrote:
>
> On Fri, 5 Nov 1999 22:57:42, "David T. Johnson"
> <[e-mail]> wrote:
>
> > Here's my OS/2 experience with an ASUS K7M Athlon motherboard.
> >
> > Installation:  I installed with a 7200 RPM 13.4 GB IDE UDMA/66 hard
> > drive.  I got the updated IBM IDE drivers for >8.4 GB and updated the
> > installation disks.  The 7/99 (newest AFAIK) IBM1S506.ADD driver did not
> > work properly.  There was some sort of timeout delay problem that made
> > each installation screen take something like 5 minutes to appear.
> > Knowing that the ASUS Athlon motherboard has the AMD Irongate chipset, I
> > juiced the Installtion disk 1 by copying the 10/31/99 version of the
> > DANIS506.ADD file to the installtion disk and renaming it as
> > IBM1S506.ADD to keep the install program happy.  I also used the updated
> > IBM files IBMIDECD.FLT and OS2DASD.DMD on Installation Disk 1.  I added
> > an updated FDISK.COM and OS2CDROM.DMD to the installation disk 2.  This
> > installation disk setup worked perfectly.  Daniela Engert has done an
> > excellent job in supporting the AMD Irongate chipset for OS/2 with here
> > DANIS506.ADD driver!  Finally, I had to set the hard disk to LBA to get
> > the FDISK program to allow it to be set as "Installable."
> >
> > The installation with a 44x CD-ROM, and the UDMA66 IDE disk was
> > extremely fast, kind of like OS/2 on steroids.  After installation, I
> > installed the IBM Theseus 3 program to check the system memory
> > availability.  I am happy to report, with the ASUS AMI Bios, OS/2 seems
> > to find all of the memory, even the memory greater than 64 MB.  The BIOS
> > setup has a "Boot to OS/2 Memory > 64 MB" option.  My experience was
> > that OS/2 found all of the memory, no matter which way this was set.
> >
> > In summary, OS/2 v4 seems to work very well with the ASUS motherboard.
> > I haven't tested the USB ports yet.
>
> Are you shure that OS/2 detects all the memory.

I used the IBM Theseus 3 utility which is pretty good.


> Can you check it with
> some other utilitys like filecommander and other utilitys.
>
> How much memory reports theseus? Can you post a screen shot

I'll email you a Sysbench screenshot but I probably will not get to this
until Tuesday or Wednesday.

>
> How much ISA Slots does the mainboard have.

The ASUS K7M motherboard has 1 ISA slot, 2 serial slots, and 4 USB slots
with the VIA chipset which should work with the modified OS/2 drivers
but I haven't tested them yet.

> Have you checked it with scitech display doctor.

No.

My friend has an
> athlon board and scitech crashes all the time with the board(MSI and
> Matrox G200)
> My G200 works fine with my board.
> Can you post a complete Sysbench benchmark( Im interested in all
> categories)
> Very good news

The ASUS Athlon boards seem to be available right now.  The store that I
bought it from had 26 in stock.

>
> Ciao

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From: [e-mail]                             06-Nov-99 20:14:15
  To: All                                               07-Nov-99 03:28:17
Subj: Re: Athlon, ASUS K7M Motherboard, and OS/2

From: "David T. Johnson" <[e-mail]>

Stefan Sobina wrote:
>
> Hi David,
> can u send me that IDE-driver (IBM1S506.add for those big hd)?
> or can u give me the URL where to get it?

Well, you can get the updated IBM IBM1S506.ADD drivers here:

http://service.software.ibm.com/os2ddpak/html/os_2comp/installa/index.htm

B-U-T...

one of these drivers (the IBM1s506.ADD driver) did not work with the
ASUS Athlon K7M motherboard and a UDMA/66 13 GB drive.  To install, I
actually used the DANIS506.ADD driver as a substitute for the IBM IDE
driver.  You can get the Danis506.add driver on Hobbes as the
DANIS506.ZIP file at:

http://hobbes.nmsu.edu

or from LEO (since HOBBES has been down) at:

http://www.leo.org/pub/comp/os/os2/leo/drivers/dasd/index.html

I renamed the DANIS506.ADD file to be IBM1S506.ADD on Installation Disk
1 for the install and then installed it properly as Danis506.ADD in the
config.sys file after install.  This driver works very well with the
ASUS K7M, the AMD Irongate chipset, and UDMA/66 drives.  My OS/2 boot
time is about 20 seconds vs. about 2 minutes on the old machine.
>
> thanx
>
> cu
> Stefan
>
> "David T. Johnson" schrieb:
>
> > Here's my OS/2 experience with an ASUS K7M Athlon motherboard.
> >
> > Installation:  I installed with a 7200 RPM 13.4 GB IDE UDMA/66 hard
> > drive.  I got the updated IBM IDE drivers for >8.4 GB and updated the
> > installation disks.  The 7/99 (newest AFAIK) IBM1S506.ADD driver did not
> > work properly.  There was some sort of timeout delay problem that made
> > each installation screen take something like 5 minutes to appear.
> > Knowing that the ASUS Athlon motherboard has the AMD Irongate chipset, I
> > juiced the Installtion disk 1 by copying the 10/31/99 version of the
> > DANIS506.ADD file to the installtion disk and renaming it as
> > IBM1S506.ADD to keep the install program happy.  I also used the updated
> > IBM files IBMIDECD.FLT and OS2DASD.DMD on Installation Disk 1.  I added
> > an updated FDISK.COM and OS2CDROM.DMD to the installation disk 2.  This
> > installation disk setup worked perfectly.  Daniela Engert has done an
> > excellent job in supporting the AMD Irongate chipset for OS/2 with here
> > DANIS506.ADD driver!  Finally, I had to set the hard disk to LBA to get
> > the FDISK program to allow it to be set as "Installable."
> >
> > The installation with a 44x CD-ROM, and the UDMA66 IDE disk was
> > extremely fast, kind of like OS/2 on steroids.  After installation, I
> > installed the IBM Theseus 3 program to check the system memory
> > availability.  I am happy to report, with the ASUS AMI Bios, OS/2 seems
> > to find all of the memory, even the memory greater than 64 MB.  The BIOS
> > setup has a "Boot to OS/2 Memory > 64 MB" option.  My experience was
> > that OS/2 found all of the memory, no matter which way this was set.
> >
> > In summary, OS/2 v4 seems to work very well with the ASUS motherboard.
> > I haven't tested the USB ports yet.

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From: [e-mail]                               07-Nov-99 05:34:26
  To: All                                               07-Nov-99 03:28:18
Subj: Re: Warp 4, Fixpak 12 / Service Halts

From: [e-mail]

In article <dXgYJNBkfqLN-pn2-z8RxLRLiYrDV@localhost>,
  nospam@null wrote:
> On Sat, 23 Oct 1999 21:33:24, [e-mail] wrote:
>
> > It seems to get much use out of OS/2, you have to install Fixpaks. I
> > started with Fixpak 12, using the "Fix" method to install FP12 from
the
> > hard drive.  Service initiates ok, and gets as far as examining my
> > system before halting with the error message:
> > "An error occurred while searching for files to update.  The reason
may
> > be old or corrupt CSF logfiles, CSF_SEL.000, or file system
corruption.
> >  See Readme file for more info."
> >
> DID you actually look at the readme file and if so followit?
> Richard A Crane
> Check Copyright of this with the author or you may suffer litigation
or
> embarrassment.
>
> ps General Protection Fault ... Retry or Replace General and continue?

Hi Richard,
Thanks for the suggestion, but I had made as much sense as I could out
of the various Readme files.  Nothing from them changed the error.
Eventually I was able to install FP12 using RSU, which required
installing Netscape 2.02 first.  On to the next problems...
>


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From: [e-mail]                               07-Nov-99 05:42:12
  To: All                                               07-Nov-99 03:28:18
Subj: Re: Warp 4, Fixpak 12 / Service Halts

From: [e-mail]

In article <[e-mail]>,
  "David T. Johnson" <[e-mail]> wrote:
> [e-mail] wrote:
> >
> > >It seems to get much use out of OS/2, you have to install Fixpaks.
> >
> > I'd disgree . . if this is your first venture into OS/2 land, I'd
put off the fixpacks
> > for a bit. OS/2 no-fixed runs fine,  if you're like me you'll learn
enough
> > in the beginning to want to reinstall with fewer bad choices later
anyway.
>
> I would go ahead and install the fixpack.  It only takes a few minutes
> and will provide the Y2K update as well.  But you are right, the
fixpack
> does not add significant new functionality.  The main thing I can
think
> of is the REGEDIT2 function.  The system will be a little snappier
with
> the fixpack, however.
>
> >
> > >Syslevel.exe reports the same version number as in Syslevel.os2:
> > >XR04000.  Syslevel.os2 contains many directory and file names.
Not all
> > >of those are present on my machine since I thought I'd wait until
after
> > >applying the Fixpak before attempting to install the sound system
and
> > >MultiMedia features.
> >
> > bad idea. the part that needs fixing most is multimedia ! you want
the
> > fixpack to update MMOS2 *for sure*, so you should get the complete
> > system up and running first (IMHO) then run the Fpack.
>
> Actually, you can apply the fixpack and then install MMOS2 later if
you
> want.  When you run service.exe (the fixtool), it will see that the
> service level of the system is updated and will only update the
> multimedia stuff.  If you use fixpack disks, this means you might just
> need a couple of disks rather than 16 or something like that.
>
> > For what it's
> > worth, I've had the best success with a 'fastkick141.zip' from
Hobbes,
> > DIUNPACK the disk files to a temp directory, use the .cmd program to
> > do the work of updating. I've also had some *evil* results with that
> > "such-and-such file on your hard disk is newer" dialog. These days,
I
> > don't care *what* it asks, it all gets updated and I can deal with
> > "newer files" later if necessary. Had the system refuse to boot
again
> > too many times because the "newer file on the hard drive" wasn't.
> > Mr Spalten has explained how this works, 'newness' is not the entire
> > criterion, but the message is misleading. Ignore it !
> >
> > >
> > >Can anyone suggest where to go from here, or more information I
could
> > >provide to assist a solution?
> >
> > advice is cheap, but IMO you should get everything you want to use
> > installed at base level, use it for a bit like that, then go for
the fixpacks.
> >
> > the readme's have a lot of information, but you have to read them
> > pretty carefully to get max understanding. They've been improved
> > recently, but there's stll a lot to pick up in one sitting,
especially if
> > this is a new system to you. And again, I like the fastkick method,
> > but there's several to choose from, look over at hobbes and find
> > one you like.
> >
> > >
> > >thanks
> > >
> >
> > --
> > Albert, the Mad Shirt Grinder

Thanks David,
I tried all sorts of methods of installing the Fixpak, and got exactly
the same message at the same point, no matter what.  Today (after so
many wasted evenings), I installed Netscape 2.02, then used Frank
McKenny's suggestions to install Fixpak12 using RSU.  It took some
messing around, but worked!
>


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From: [e-mail]                                07-Nov-99 05:53:14
  To: All                                               07-Nov-99 03:28:18
Subj: Re: A clip from DOJ judge on OS/2

From: [e-mail] (rj friedman)

On Sat, 6 Nov 1999 08:17:09, "Doug Darrow"
<[e-mail]> wrote:


ε>IBM will eventually offer a commercial OS/2 update.  It will be
ε>sometime in 2000 and it will be quiet and aimed at those of
ε>us who have stood by OS/2's side throughout this entire
ε>Microsoft monopoly.  ...

ε....and then the alarm clock on my nightstand rang and awakened me from
εmy dream world, forcing me to face another day of reality instead.

I agree with the first poster. IBM may not release a brand
new shrink wrapped client with a new name and a splashy
rollout, but what they will - eventually - do is get all the
new features and functions out via the update/fixpack route
- like they have been doing for the past two years.

Frankly, I just can't understand why so many people are
acting like babies about this issue: "IBM won't give us a
shiny new toy in a brand new box! WAhhhh! Mean old IBM. They
don't love us. They only love our big brother - the large
corporations. Waaahhh! I'll show them! I'll run away from
home and go live with [Linux] [NT] [Mac] [Be] [Younameit].
Waaahhhh!!!



________________________________________________________

[RJ]                 OS/2 - Live it, or live with it.
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Taipei, Taiwan       [e-mail]

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From: [e-mail]                               07-Nov-99 05:51:01
  To: All                                               07-Nov-99 03:28:18
Subj: Re: Warp 4, Fixpak 12 / Service Halts

From: [e-mail]

In article <[e-mail]>,
  "Graham C. Norris" <[e-mail]> wrote:
> Apart from updating IDE drivers on the install floppies before you
> start, you need to install all the bits you want *before* you service
> OS/2, otherwise you'll just have to apply the service again after
you've
> installed them in order to get those bits serviced too.
>
> SYSLEVEL.OS2 should not contain a list of files and directories,
sounds
> like you've overwritten it (which would also explain why you can't
> service the system). You can copy it off the CD, install the
multimedia
> stuff, then apply the service.
>
> Graham.

Graham,

Thanks for the response.  Diagnosing and fixing the IDE problem was the
first battle in the war to install Warp 4.

As you suggested, I copied a fresh syslevel.os2 as you suggested, but
it had no effect on the problem.

After far too many attempts to even begin to list, I managed to install
FP12 using the RSU method.  Even that was not straightforward. Along
the way I figured out settings for DIOP to connect to my ISP, and
installing a better browser than the default IBM Explorer allowed me to
get e-mail working (and was also needed for RSU).  It was a good thing
I could boot manager to Windows 98 for a functional web connection.
>


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From: [e-mail]                               07-Nov-99 05:55:19
  To: All                                               07-Nov-99 03:28:18
Subj: Re: Warp 4, Fixpak 12 / Service Halts

From: [e-mail]

In article <[e-mail]>,
  [e-mail] wrote:
> Here in comp.os.os2.misc, [e-mail] spake unto us, saying:
>
> >It seems to get much use out of OS/2, you have to install Fixpaks.
>
> It really depends on the hardware you have, I think.  I'm using Warp 4
> on two systems here, and I've not bothered to install any of the
FixPaks
> yet, but my systems are both SCSI systems.
>
> I really should upgrade before the end of the year.  ;-)
>
> --
>    -Rich Steiner  >>>--->  [e-mail]  >>>---> Bloomington, MN
>      OS/2 + Linux + BeOS + FreeBSD + Solaris + WinNT4 + Win95 + DOS
>       + VMWare + Fusion + vMac + Executor = PC Hobbyist Heaven! :-)
>                      I'm a Lumberjack and I'm OK!

Richard,

Thanks for the ideas.  I felt I needed FP12 for Y2K compatibility, so
that I could install Netscape 4.61, and because some other software
would not install without at least FP5.  After too many evenings to
mention, I installed FP12 today via RSU.  No problems yet, although I
still can't get the Ensoniq 1373 sound system to work, so I can't
install the multimedia or voice recognition software.  So it goes...
>


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From: [e-mail]                               07-Nov-99 06:06:02
  To: All                                               07-Nov-99 03:28:18
Subj: Re: Warp 4, Fixpak 12 / Service Halts

From: [e-mail]

In article <[e-mail]>,
  Irv Spalten <[e-mail]> wrote:
> I suspect I know the answer here, but see my comments below...
> interspersed with your paragraphs.
>
> [e-mail] wrote:
> >
> > I've installed Warp 4 onto a brand new pc.  I use Boot Manager with
> > Win98 on the other partition.  The Warp package should include the
label
> > "Some Assembly Required".
>
> No so, or it wasn't when released. There were NO FixPak's required to
> run OS/2 Warp 4 when released. Now, a few years later, there is for
Y2K.
>
> > It seems to get much use out of OS/2, you have to install Fixpaks.
>
> Nope, if the initial release supported the h/w you had, you were OK.
>
> > I
> > started with Fixpak 12, using the "Fix" method to install FP12 from
the
> > hard drive.  Service initiates ok, and gets as far as examining my
> > system before halting with the error message:
> > "An error occurred while searching for files to update.  The reason
may
> > be old or corrupt CSF logfiles, CSF_SEL.000, or file system
corruption.
> >  See Readme file for more info."
>
> If you DO NOT have a C: drive that OS/2 can read, you WILL get this
> message. You mention W98 on other partition, but NOT which one and
what
> OS/2 was installed to. In the FixTool READ.ME is this:
>
> ==========
> | - If your drive C: is formatted with NTFS or FAT32, you may get the
> following
> |   error message:  "An error occurred.  The reason may be old or
> corrupt CSF
> |   logfiles, CSF_SEL.000 file, or file system corruption."  This is a
> general
> |   error message that's returned when an unexpected return code is
> encountered.
> |   The error is sent because the FixTool searches for the FIXSTART
file
> on C:,
> |   and therefore needs a C: partition that contains data it can read,
> such as
> |   FAT or HPFS.
>
> |   The solution is to create a dummy C: partition that's formatted
FAT
> or HPFS.
> |   Try to boot to that C: partition (which will fail, but allows it
to
> remain
> |   the active C: partition).  Then boot OS/2 and install the FixPak.
> |   Finally, boot to the other C: partition, which will make it the
> default C:
> |   drive.
> =========
>
> > There are no CSF logfiles on the system, I get the same error
whether I
> > have a dummy empty CSF_SEL.000 file on it or not, and any logfiles
just
> > repeat the message above.  I've tried other methods of applying the
> > Fixpak, all end with the same message.  I haven't tried an on-line
> > method since I've only recently managed to get the modem working
with
> > Warp.
>
> File may not be there is all situations. The FixTool READ.ME explains
> two possible causes for this, but I don't think either fits you, it is
> more than likely a C: that OS/2 can't read.
>
> > This error is mentioned in one of the text files that came with
Warp,
> > but the suggested remedy made some ineffective reference to
Syslevel.
> >
> > Syslevel.exe reports the same version number as in Syslevel.os2:
> > XR04000.  Syslevel.os2 contains many directory and file names.  Not
all
> > of those are present on my machine since I thought I'd wait until
after
> > applying the Fixpak before attempting to install the sound system
and
> > MultiMedia features.
>
> Normal to have a list of directories that will be serviced after you
> install OS/2.
>
> > Can anyone suggest where to go from here, or more information I
could
> > provide to assist a solution?
> >
> > thanks
> >
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Hello Irv,

Thanks for the suggestions, but I don't know enough about creating the
dummy drives you suggested to risk doing it.  I'd already spent enough
time playing around with Fdisk changing the active partition without
success, and my OS/2 C: drive is FAT.

Warp 4 was not compatible with my new computer's 10Gb hard drive,
Ensoniq 1373 sound system, ATI Rage Pro video, Intellipoint mouse, and
lacked support for the USR 56K modem.  I'm not about to pay $150 for a
driver for the CD-RW drive.  I've sorted out reasonable support of the
video card and the modem, and there is a driver for the mouse. The
Ensoniq is still a problem, so the multimedia and speech features still
don't work. I think I've found a way to use xcopy and the Windows 98
partition to back up the OS/2 partition to the cd-rw.  I'll find out
the next time I have to reinstall.

Using RSU, I finally succeeded in installing FP12.  What an enormous
relief.  On to the next problem...
>


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From: [e-mail]                               07-Nov-99 06:26:13
  To: All                                               07-Nov-99 03:28:18
Subj: Ensoniq 1373 Driver for Warp?

From: [e-mail]

I've found an OS/2 driver for the Ensoniq 1371 sound system, but my pc
has Ensoniq 1373.  OS/2 refuses to recognize the 1371 driver.

Does anyone know where one can get an OS/2 Ensoniq 1373 driver, or what
other driver, especially one supported by Warp 4, is compatible with
the card.  I've tried installing several of the Sound Blaster drivers
without success.

The sound system works fine when I use Boot Manager to start Windows
98, so I know the hardware is ok.



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From: [e-mail]                           07-Nov-99 00:57:08
  To: All                                               07-Nov-99 03:28:18
Subj: Re: Athlon, ASUS K7M Motherboard, and OS/2

From: Robert Dohrenburg <[e-mail]>

"David T. Johnson" wrote:
>
> Here's my OS/2 experience with an ASUS K7M Athlon motherboard.
>
> Installation:  I installed with a 7200 RPM 13.4 GB IDE UDMA/66 hard
> drive.  I got the updated IBM IDE drivers for >8.4 GB and updated the
> installation disks.  The 7/99 (newest AFAIK) IBM1S506.ADD driver did not
> work properly.  There was some sort of timeout delay problem that made
> each installation screen take something like 5 minutes to appear.
> Knowing that the ASUS Athlon motherboard has the AMD Irongate chipset, I
> juiced the Installtion disk 1 by copying the 10/31/99 version of the
> DANIS506.ADD file to the installtion disk and renaming it as
> IBM1S506.ADD to keep the install program happy.  I also used the updated
> IBM files IBMIDECD.FLT and OS2DASD.DMD on Installation Disk 1.  I added
> an updated FDISK.COM and OS2CDROM.DMD to the installation disk 2.  This
> installation disk setup worked perfectly.  Daniela Engert has done an
> excellent job in supporting the AMD Irongate chipset for OS/2 with here
> DANIS506.ADD driver!  Finally, I had to set the hard disk to LBA to get
> the FDISK program to allow it to be set as "Installable."
>
> The installation with a 44x CD-ROM, and the UDMA66 IDE disk was
> extremely fast, kind of like OS/2 on steroids.  After installation, I
> installed the IBM Theseus 3 program to check the system memory
> availability.  I am happy to report, with the ASUS AMI Bios, OS/2 seems
> to find all of the memory, even the memory greater than 64 MB.  The BIOS
> setup has a "Boot to OS/2 Memory > 64 MB" option.  My experience was
> that OS/2 found all of the memory, no matter which way this was set.
>
> In summary, OS/2 v4 seems to work very well with the ASUS motherboard.
> I haven't tested the USB ports yet.


I had the impression that ASUS chicken out of the Athlon MB Market?

I havent seen any Athlon based ASUS MBs, where did you get yours?

Robert,

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From: [e-mail]                                  07-Nov-99 08:29:17
  To: All                                               07-Nov-99 05:18:09
Subj: Re: MicroSoft a Monopoly?!?!

From: [e-mail] (Stan Goodman)

On Sat, 6 Nov 1999 19:46:07, [e-mail] wrote:

> [e-mail] (Rod Smith) said:
>
> >it's virtually certain to be appealed, so there won't be any impact from
the
> >court case on the ability of any OS to run Windows programs until the
appeals
> >have run their course.

The appeal can come only after the verdict, which will come down in another
few weeks; but presumably the verdict (from this same judge) will be in the
same spirit as the Finding of Fact that we have now. It's true that this
judge has had verdicts overturned on appeal, but if he has done his
homework, this one won't be; it's hard to see how it can be held by anyone
who isn't on the Gates payroll that there has not been abusive monopoly.
"Twenty years" is an exaggeration; something of the order of a tenth that
is realistic.

-------------
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Qiryat Tiv'on
Israel

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From: [e-mail]                                  07-Nov-99 09:11:03
  To: All                                               07-Nov-99 05:18:09
Subj: Re: MicroSoft a Monopoly?!?!

From: [e-mail] (Stan Goodman)

Maybe the dropout will go back to Harvard (or even buy it), study Antitrust
law, and finish this time.

On Sat, 6 Nov 1999 22:03:19, [e-mail] (Raphael
Tennenbaum) wrote:

> [e-mail] (Rod Smith) wrote:
>
> >In article <[e-mail]>,
> >    Dave yadallee <[e-mail]> writes:
> >>
> >>
> >> Supreme Court in the USA said yes and Microsoft still has the boxing
gloves on.
> >
> >The Supreme Court wasn't involved in the findings that were released
> >yesterday (11/5/99).  Some commentators have speculated that it will reach
> >the Supreme Court, but I can't imagine that happening for years.
> >
> >> Maybe this means wyou will be able to run 32-bit Windows Apps on OS/2 V 4
soon
> >
> >"Soon?"  No, at least not when measured by "Internet time."  The latest
> >item is simply a finding of facts, not a ruling.  When a ruling comes
> >down, it's virtually certain to be appealed, so there won't be any impact
> >from the court case on the ability of any OS to run Windows programs until
> >the appeals have run their course.
> >
> >--
> >Rod Smith       [e-mail]
> >http://members.bellatlantic.net/~smithrod
> >Author of _Special Edition Using Corel WordPerfect 8 for Linux_, from Que
>
> Pure speculation but: while you may be right, I wouldn't be
> altogether certain.  MS is at a critical juncture and might
> decide they'd be better served placating some of their
> commercial enemies.  Apart from some (perhaps meagre) p.r.
> benefits, if they did something like open-source NT or parts
> thereof; or, make a concerted effort to document APIs, it
> might even stand a chance of making inroads with other
> companies.  Even among his bitterest competitors there are
> many to whom DOJ sanctions against ANY companies are
> unpalatable -- including quite possibly IBM.
>
> Again I don't really think it's likely to happen with OS/2,
> either, but stranger things have certainly happened.  Who
> knows -- maybe it's likelier to happen with Linux, or even
> Be.
>
> Of course it's also very likely that Mr G. is determined to
> ride this horse till it drops, damn the consequences.  Will
> be interesting to see if he gets contrite or not over the
> next few weeks -- will his image handlers try to convince
> him not to cry foul?
>
> --
> Ray Tennenbaum        '99 YZF-R6
> readme@ http://www.ray-field.com

-------------
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Qiryat Tiv'on
Israel

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From: [e-mail]                                  07-Nov-99 08:29:16
  To: All                                               07-Nov-99 05:18:09
Subj: Re: A clip from DOJ judge on OS/2

From: [e-mail] (Stan Goodman)

On Sat, 6 Nov 1999 19:40:31, [e-mail] wrote:

> "Dave {Reply Address in.sig}" <[e-mail]> said:
>
> >Ah well, chances are that Emperor Bill already has an appeal ready in case
he
> >doesn't score a 100% victory in the court case.
>
> In the reports, MS is putting up an extremely strong rhetorical front at
least.
> They have vowed to fight on in behalf of the consumer.
>
>   H - A - H  !  !

What's funny? You don't think that, with his income, he is a major
consumer?

-------------
Stan Goodman
Qiryat Tiv'on
Israel

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From: [e-mail]                                07-Nov-99 11:38:13
  To: All                                               07-Nov-99 10:20:13
Subj: Re: MicroSoft a Monopoly?!?!

From: "OS/2 Fan" <[e-mail]>

I just can't believe that you guys are being so harsh to a fine firm
that has struggled to give us such pioneering technologies as
Micro$oft Bob.  Oh, the ingratitude...

PS:  I hope they fry!
Regards,
Xtralarge OS/2 fan

Opinions expressed are mine only.  Ignore them and
killfile me.  Leave the University and/or my ISP alone,
I don't speak for them, they have nothing to do with it,
and they probably have more lawyers than you anyway.


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From: [e-mail]                               07-Nov-99 04:47:28
  To: All                                               07-Nov-99 10:20:13
Subj: Re: MicroSoft a Monopoly?!?!

From: [e-mail]

 AM, [e-mail] (Stan Goodman) said:

>Maybe the dropout will go back to Harvard (or even buy it), study
>Antitrust law, and finish this time.

Did he drop out. I heard he was asked to leave or be thrown out for an
ethics violation. It involved using student time on the computers to run a
business or something like that.


_____________
Ed Letourneau <[e-mail]>

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From: [e-mail]                        07-Nov-99 10:29:02
  To: All                                               07-Nov-99 10:20:13
Subj: Re: Microsoft findings on CDROM

From: [e-mail] (John Poltorak)

In <802kke$a1g$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] writes:
>In <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (John
Poltorak) writes:
>>What is 'Electronic Paperbook Format' ?
>>
>A general format for presentation of ebooks on multiple operating
>systems. Used by a number of publishers.
>
>>What executable do I run to access it?
>>
>Executable are on the CDROM for support OS's
>
>>I assume a native OS/2 format is available...
>>
>A native OS/2 driver is present on the CD.

Excellent! Guess I'll have to order a copy.

BTW, if you produce electronic books, do you have anything as useful
as a Dictionary, Encyclopedia or Atlas with a Native OS/2 viewer. Such
products are unavailable to OS/2 users - there must be a market for
these types of apps...


>
>[e-mail]
><A HREF="http://www.quietvision.com">www.quietvision.com</A>
>Home of the Electronic Paperback (R)
>
--
John

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From: [e-mail]                                  07-Nov-99 11:41:16
  To: All                                               07-Nov-99 10:20:14
Subj: Re: MicroSoft a Monopoly?!?!

From: [e-mail] (Stan Goodman)

On Sun, 7 Nov 1999 09:38:27, "OS/2 Fan" <[e-mail]> wrote:

> I just can't believe that you guys are being so harsh to a fine firm
> that has struggled to give us such pioneering technologies as
> Micro$oft Bob.  Oh, the ingratitude...
>
> PS:  I hope they fry!

They won't fry. I don't even think the company will be broken up. What is
much more likely is that various carnivorous practices will be forbidden to
the company, and that MS will be forced to document the API and license it
to competitors, which is a normal practice in most industries.

For comparison, Once Upon A Time, there were invention battles (with and
without benefit of patent protection) among various big players in the
radio industry, with a lot of cutthroat practices -- and MS-like prevention
of entry of new, small players, although without some of Microsoft's
enhancements. Intervention by the DOJ produced a consent decree in which
e.g. RCA, GE, Westinghouse, Bell Labs were forced to license patents to
others, against a fee, of course, which opened the industry up to a far
more orderly, and less predatory, form of cmpetition. Look for something
like that, together with the same kind of cross-licensing arrangements that
happened then, in the case of B'rer Bill.

-------------
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Israel

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From: [e-mail]                                  07-Nov-99 11:41:18
  To: All                                               07-Nov-99 10:20:14
Subj: Re: MicroSoft a Monopoly?!?!

From: [e-mail] (Stan Goodman)

On Sun, 7 Nov 1999 09:47:57, [e-mail] wrote:

>  AM, [e-mail] (Stan Goodman) said:
>
> >Maybe the dropout will go back to Harvard (or even buy it), study
> >Antitrust law, and finish this time.
>
> Did he drop out. I heard he was asked to leave or be thrown out for an
> ethics violation. It involved using student time on the computers to run a
> business or something like that.

Maybe that's so. But aren't the college years supposed to be used to hone
the talents one will use later to make one's way in the world? So what's
your point?

-------------
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Qiryat Tiv'on
Israel

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From: [e-mail]                               07-Nov-99 09:21:08
  To: All                                               07-Nov-99 15:15:21
Subj: Re: MicroSoft a Monopoly?!?!

From: [e-mail]

>> >Maybe the dropout will go back to Harvard (or even buy it), ...
>> Did he drop out. I heard he was asked to leave or be thrown out for an
>> ethics violation. It involved using student time on the computers to run a
>> business or something like that.

>Maybe that's so. But aren't the college years supposed to be used to hone
> the talents one will use later to make one's way in the world? So what's
> your point?

No. And if you don't understand it, then I doubt if anyone could ever
explain it to you.

-- The same attitude prevails in Gates and everyone else making policy at
MS -- which is why some many think MS will have to be broken up. Anything
less will not solve the problem.


_____________
Ed Letourneau <[e-mail]>

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From: [e-mail]                 07-Nov-99 09:31:20
  To: All                                               07-Nov-99 15:15:21
Subj: Re: MicroSoft a Monopoly?!?!

From: [e-mail] (Raphael Tennenbaum)

[e-mail] (Andrew Stephenson) wrote:

>In article <nWKJ4oXf0/[e-mail]>
>       raphaelt "Raphael Tennenbaum" writes:
>
>> [...]
>>
>> Of course it's also very likely that Mr G. is determined to
>> ride this horse till it drops, damn the consequences.  Will
>> be interesting to see if he gets contrite or not over the
>> next few weeks -- will his image handlers try to convince
>> him not to cry foul?
>
>All the M$ spokesdroids I have heard being interviewed since the
>announcement on Friday have been singing from the same songsheet.
>(Be oh-so-interesting to see copies of those internal emails King
>Billy's staff must have been sending out.)

Yeah, twenty minutes after I posted I caught a glimpse of
himself dressed in a fancy suit and what could only be
described as a paternalistic smirk.

Whatever else he's done he's created a most interesting sort
of lab experiment in "What People Think."  Of the "normal"
folks I talk to about computers (they use what they've given
at work) typically one might use a Mac at home and quietly
hate MS but never say anything at the job.  Another is just
resigned to whatever, figure all the trouble they've having
is because of bugs or upgrades or something and sooner or
later "they'll" figure it out (happened at a branch of the
NY Public Library yesterday).  Where anti MS sentiment was
clearly once so fragmented as to negate itself (OS/2, *nix,
Mac) you might think -- I did, anyway -- that the Jackson's
findings would have at least awakened Mr. G to a sense that
at least many of the sorts of people whom he he count on for
support -- let's say, folks who inclined to a laissez-faire
worldview -- could be at a point where they resent MS as
much or more than they resent the government.

Ok, it's not the place for this sort of thread, but I'll
just say: I believe the problem is really due to his
megalomania, which worked for a long time but which doesn't
suit a company like MS in its maturity.  The fact that his
lieutenants are starting to leave would suggest to me the
man is in some denial.  But I've been wrong before, so they
tell me.


Their UK office, for
>example, was giving vent to the "we're so cruelly misunderstood
>and mistreated when all we've ever wanted was to give the world
>this great technology" refrain today (sat6nov).  Sound familiar?
>
>That horse could yet jump all the fences or refuse at the first.
>--
>Andrew Stephenson
>

--
Ray Tennenbaum        '99 YZF-R6
readme@ http://www.ray-field.com

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From: [e-mail]                              07-Nov-99 14:58:27
  To: All                                               07-Nov-99 15:15:21
Subj: CD-RW for OS2

From: [e-mail] (A. Willard Reese)

I'm considering buying a Yamaha  6x4x16 internal SCSI-2 CD-RW kit with
an Adaptec PCI SCSI interface card to run on my Warp 4.0, fixpak 11,
system. Can anyone tell me their experience with such a setup?  How
about drivers for OS2?  What problems have been encountered, etc?  The
price is right on this combination but it's no good to me if it won't
run in OS2.
Thanks for any help,
Willard


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From: [e-mail]                               06-Nov-99 23:52:16
  To: All                                               07-Nov-99 15:15:21
Subj: Re: A clip from DOJ judge on OS/2

From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Bj=F8rn?= Vermo <[e-mail]>

[e-mail] wrote:

>
> Now it just may possibly be that the Stardock non-situation developed from
IBM
> having insider information on the outcome of the case - or at least some
very
> strong indications.
>

I doubt it, that case just confirms IBM standard procedures. I have never
heard of
anybody who have managed to land any kind of contract with IBM, be it as
supplier,
OEM or distributor, after shooting their mouth off about on-going
negotiations. The
decision-makers of IBM do not like to deal with unprofessional counterparts,
and to
even let on that a deal is being discussed is very unprofessional.


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From: [e-mail]               07-Nov-99 14:41:24
  To: All                                               07-Nov-99 15:15:21
Subj: os2,dos and W95 on same hard disk

From: Jean Michel VINCENT <[e-mail]>

hello
i would like to install on my PC, OS2 warp 3 with dos 6.22 and
windows95.
I have P100 with 32M0 ram and a Maxtor 6,4G0 hardisk.
I would like to reserve 0,4 G0 for DOS, 1 G0 for OS/2 and the last 5 Go
for
W95
all in FAT file system.
What is the best way to make a multiboot system?
What are the files or fixpaks that i have to download to do that?(i've
already dowload new ideasd.exe)
Must i use the dual boot of OS2 to make that?
Is there any procedure or FAQ which can help me?
Somebody told me that os2 is unable to make a multiboot whith an over
2Go
harddisk, is that true?
is it true?
Thank you very much for your answer?



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From: [e-mail]                             07-Nov-99 06:09:20
  To: All                                               07-Nov-99 15:15:21
Subj: Re: Athlon, ASUS K7M Motherboard, and OS/2

From: "David T. Johnson" <[e-mail]>

Robert Dohrenburg wrote:
>
>
> I had the impression that ASUS chicken out of the Athlon MB Market?
>
> I havent seen any Athlon based ASUS MBs, where did you get yours?
>

ASUS does not sell their K7M motherboard with their name on the box.
The motherboard comes in a plain white box.  ASUS puts their name on the
manual inside and on the CD-ROM but nowhere else.  They also do not
provide any information on the K7M motherboard on their website but
there are BIOS updates on FTP.  Could fear of Intel retaliation for
Athlon support be the reason for this odd behavior?  Coincidentally?,
most of the other Athlon motherboard manufacturers, except for FIC, do
the same thing.  I purchased the K7M here:

http://www.computerstop.com/

They have a picture of the K7M on their website that has the ASUS name
on the box.  But that is not what I bought.  Maybe ASUS is changing and
my box is a collector's item!


Here's some general information about the different Athlon motherboards
that are available and upcoming:

http://www.slota.com/motherboards/

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From: [e-mail]                               07-Nov-99 09:14:16
  To: All                                               07-Nov-99 15:15:21
Subj: Re: Bootos2 options

From: [e-mail]

In <[e-mail]>, on 11/04/99
   at 04:38 PM, "Doug Darrow" <[e-mail]> said:
>Hmmm. But if said user has such trouble reading and understanding plain
>text, english language instructions how do you (or BOOTOS2, anyway)
>intend to read and understand HIS thoughts?

Few have trouble with plain English. Its the things that have been left
out of documentation or assumed to be common knowledge by the programmer
that is the problem.

Example: The "source" command.  Does the average user know what directory
on a hard drive to point at? Will it always be the same one? Is there an
advantage to using it over the install disks, e.g., does it have files
that will be more current if fixpacks have been applied, etc.

And when the average user points to the wrong directory and it fails,
(since the one needed is buried 3 or 4 levels down under x:\ OS2\ will the
user think he did something wrong at the command line?  Where does the
user go for more information?

_________________
Ed Letourneau <[e-mail]>

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From: [e-mail]                          07-Nov-99 14:56:01
  To: All                                               07-Nov-99 15:15:21
Subj: Re: os2,dos and W95 on same hard disk

From: [e-mail] (Annie K.)

On Sun, 7 Nov 1999 13:41:49, Jean Michel VINCENT
<[e-mail]> wrote:

:i would like to install on my PC, OS2 warp 3 with dos 6.22 and
:windows95.
:I have P100 with 32M0 ram and a Maxtor 6,4G0 hardisk.
:I would like to reserve 0,4 G0 for DOS, 1 G0 for OS/2 and the last 5 Go
:for
:W95
:all in FAT file system.

 DOS and Win95 must both boot from C:, as you probably know. OS/2 can
boot from a logical partition as long as its Boot Manager is installed
somewhere on the disk. Btw, a FAT16 partition can be no greater than
2.1 GB in size.

:What is the best way to make a multiboot system?

 The best way is the one that suits you. In your case I'd install Boot
Manager, use OS/2 fdisk to create 2 primary FAT partitions for DOS and
Win*, then create an extended logical HPFS partition for OS/2.

:What are the files or fixpaks that i have to download to do that?(i've
:already dowload new ideasd.exe)

 That should be all you need.

:Is there any procedure or FAQ which can help me?

 Visit http://www.os2ss.com/Information/NewUsers/

:Somebody told me that os2 is unable to make a multiboot whith an over
:2Go
:harddisk, is that true?

 No.

:is it true?

 No!

--
Klaatu barada nikto

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From: [e-mail]                                  07-Nov-99 15:42:01
  To: All                                               07-Nov-99 15:15:21
Subj: Re: Microsoft findings on CDROM

From: [e-mail]

In <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (John
Poltorak) writes:
>BTW, if you produce electronic books, do you have anything as useful
>as a Dictionary, Encyclopedia or Atlas with a Native OS/2 viewer. Such
>products are unavailable to OS/2 users - there must be a market for
>these types of apps...
>
Sorry, Quiet Vision is a publisher. The Electronic Paperback reader is
designed to handled the simple task of displaying the text and the
illustrations. To this we added the ability to tie text to the page and
a search capability.

Our main concerntration is on content and literature content primarily.
As for content we do mostly public domains and out of prints. Our
primary market is schools and libraries even though we are handled by
Amazon and Barnes and Noble.

We do special like this MS finding. We did the Cox and Starr reports for
our internet resellers.

A more typical book would be "Huckleberry Finn" with has 40 plus
illiustrations from the first book publication in the 1800's. (It was
first serialized).

Another would be "The Wonderful Wizard of Oz" which hs W.W. Denslow's
original illustrations plus an actor reading the full book. The actor was
kethryn England who remined us of Glinda. We also did the other 13 "Oz"
books by L. Frank Baum.

One we are working on is "The Retrun of Captain Conquer" by Mel Gilden
and a number of Dr. Fred Bortz's young adult science books. I consider
Dr. Fred as the Asimov of the Junior High.

Also all our packaging list OS/2 on the cover.

[e-mail]
<A HREF="http://www.quietvision.com">www.quietvision.com</A>
Home of the Electronic Paperback (R)

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From: [e-mail]                                  07-Nov-99 15:48:05
  To: All                                               07-Nov-99 15:15:21
Subj: Re: MicroSoft a Monopoly?!?!

From: [e-mail] (Stan Goodman)

On Sun, 7 Nov 1999 14:21:16, [e-mail] wrote:

> >> >Maybe the dropout will go back to Harvard (or even buy it), ...
> >> Did he drop out. I heard he was asked to leave or be thrown out for an
> >> ethics violation. It involved using student time on the computers to run
a
> >> business or something like that.
>
> >Maybe that's so. But aren't the college years supposed to be used to hone
> > the talents one will use later to make one's way in the world? So what's
> > your point?
>
> No. And if you don't understand it, then I doubt if anyone could ever
> explain it to you.

Oh, gee! I had relied on users of the NGs to have a sense of humor, but
apparently I was wrong to do so. To draw the picture: If Gates was indeed
removed from Ha'va'd for playing fast and loose with some ethical tenet,
then it is not a surprise that he has wound up in court for doing similarly
on a grander scale now.

> -- The same attitude prevails in Gates and everyone else making policy at
> MS -- which is why some many think MS will have to be broken up. Anything
> less will not solve the problem.

Again, I don't think it will be broken up, I think that's wishful thinking
(sometimes wishes come true); but we will all be wiser in a few months, or
a couple of years at the outside. Perhaps a fine will be imposed, or
damages. What is much more likely is that Microsoft will not be allowed to
do business as previously, and APIs will be documented and licensed.

-------------
Stan Goodman
Qiryat Tiv'on
Israel

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From: [e-mail]                            07-Nov-99 16:49:07
  To: All                                               07-Nov-99 15:15:21
Subj: Re: MicroSoft a Monopoly?!?!

From: [e-mail]

In <yHQxxE9f8dqd-pn2-td3IdPKYfd7j@POBLANO>, [e-mail] (Stan Goodman)
writes:
>On Sun, 7 Nov 1999 14:21:16, [e-mail] wrote:

>What is much more likely is that Microsoft will not be allowed to
>do business as previously, and APIs will be documented and licensed.
>
>-------------
>Stan Goodman
>Qiryat Tiv'on
>Israel


Three cheers for integration!  (RA. RA. RA.)

Have you ever contemplated picking your way through thirty-nine million
lines of source to find what either you want or need to know?

Contemplating one's code naval on a beltway of 39 megalines is, at least
on a desktop, likely unmanageable for most individuals and small
companies!  It's gotten pretty fat after taking what must be at least,
at say 70 bytes a line, some 1,170,000,000 bytes!   Chortle ...

Remember the old proverb in the culture?  You can only straddle the
fence if.. :)

Thus I really wonder what good any of this will do me, in the near term,
as a small indepenent software vendor?   The floor in the place is
already sinking under the weight of the books!

The problem is that I'm afraid that the solution will still leave the
smaller ISV's in limbo, unable to focus on what will be an even bigger
swinging target yet ..


--> Sleep well; OS2's still awake! ;)

[e-mail]
[e-mail]

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From: [e-mail]                           07-Nov-99 09:39:10
  To: All                                               07-Nov-99 15:15:21
Subj: Re: OS/2 Printer

From: "Terry Haimann" <[e-mail]>

There must be an other option other then a discontinued Lexmark Printer!


On Fri, 05 Nov 1999 20:48:39 -0500 (EST), Terry Haimann wrote:

>I am in the market for a new printer and the Lexmark Optra 40 was
>recommended.  I have checked our local Best Buy & CompUSA and they don't
>carry that model.  What they do have are Lexmark Z series of printers and as
>I have said before what I really need is a printer that will be freindly to
>both os/2 and Linux.  Are one of these printers a renamed Optra Color 40?  It
>needs to be a model that has its own memory and on board processor (NO Win
>Printers) and I am also open to getting either a HP or an Epson if I can get
>a driver that will work.
>
>Thx    Terry
>
>





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From: [e-mail]                 07-Nov-99 15:52:07
  To: All                                               07-Nov-99 15:15:21
Subj: Thanks for reporting, new roundup

From: [e-mail]

The 'recent' (aka DIMM only) MoBo's which are OK with 64MB+ so far:

FIC-503+ Via Apollo MVP3 4SIMM/2DIMM Super7
Asus P2B-LS SCSI Slot1 4DIMM
Asus P5-AB
Asus P2B-S
Asus K7M Athlon
FIC-2013
and others...

The 'buggers' so far:
MSI 6167
Gigabyte GA-5AA Super7 3DIMM
Gigabyte TX7 Athlon 3DIMM
and others...

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From: [e-mail]                                07-Nov-99 12:05:21
  To: All                                               07-Nov-99 15:15:21
Subj: Re: os2,dos and W95 on same hard disk

From: Jim Parker <[e-mail]>

"Annie K." wrote:

> On Sun, 7 Nov 1999 13:41:49, Jean Michel VINCENT
> <[e-mail]> wrote:

<snip>

> :Somebody told me that os2 is unable to make a multiboot whith an over
> :2Go
> :harddisk, is that true?
>
>  No.
>
> :is it true?
>
>  No!
>

Actually there is a problem with installing OS/2 Warp 3 (Warp 4 does not
have this problem) beyond the first 2GB of a hard drive but there is a fix
provided by Trevor Hemsley.

Quoting Trevor from the response I got when I had a problem with Warp 3
installation:

"Actually this is a bug in the boot records installed by Warp 3 on HPFS
drives. You need to download the updated version of UHPFS.DLL and
SYSINSTX.COM that I uploaded to
ftp://hobbes.nmsu.edu/pub/os2/system/patches/warp_3 as gt2gbw3.zip. Unzip
this to a blank diskette, boot from the install set and drop to a command
prompt when given the chance and run

sysinstx t:

against your target boot drive t: from the diskette that you unzipped to."

The way I did it was to start the install prior to doing this. Everything
proceeded normally until the installation tried a reboot. The reboot failed.
At this point I went to one of the OS/2 newsgroups, posted the problem and
got this solution. I applied the solution, rebooted and the installation
completed fine.

BTW, I was installing to a FAT partition not an HPFS partition so I'm not
sure what Trevor's remark about a bug in HPFS drive boot records means
relative to this.

Good luck
Jim


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From: [e-mail]                                07-Nov-99 12:18:22
  To: All                                               07-Nov-99 15:15:22
Subj: Re: MicroSoft a Monopoly?!?!

From: Ron Vopicka <[e-mail]>

> Three cheers for integration!  (RA. RA. RA.)
>
> Have you ever contemplated picking your way through thirty-nine million
> lines of source to find what either you want or need to know?
>

Have you ever thought about how many LESS lines you would have to pick
thru if everything wasn't integrated... just had a good design with
documented interfaces, and those interfaces were the ONLY interfaces
that MS products were allowed to use!

Just think, defined APIs, where other operating systems,  if they cared
to, could support MS and other Windows applications.

That's what the judge should ultimately require MS to do (among other
things).

Cowboy programming and MS-centric trickery was probably OK back in the
PC XT days, maybe even in early Windows (3.0 and before), but it's time
MS grew up and became professionals not predators, they are and have
been way to big to be allowed to use their market dominance to exclude
competitors.

I'm sure the innovation that MS says the computer industry needs will be
well served by them (MS) creating and using the same hymnal that other
application developers must use.

And whatever happened to modular design, was this an old buzz word that
went out of service in the 80s (70s)?

Ron

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From: [e-mail]                               07-Nov-99 12:45:10
  To: All                                               07-Nov-99 15:15:22
Subj: Re: MicroSoft a Monopoly?!?!

From: [e-mail]

>> No. And if you don't understand it, then I doubt if anyone could ever
>> explain it to you.
>Oh, gee! I had relied on users of the NGs to have a sense of humor, but
>apparently I was wrong to do so. To draw the picture: If Gates was indeed
> removed from Ha'va'd for playing fast and loose with some ethical tenet,
> then it is not a surprise that he has wound up in court for doing
>similarly on a grander scale now.

When using written English, if you want sarcasm to be understood then you
have to say that is what you intended or write differently then you have.

>> -- The same attitude prevails in Gates and everyone else making policy at
>> MS -- which is why some many think MS will have to be broken up. Anything
>> less will not solve the problem.

>Again, I don't think it will be broken up, I think that's wishful
>thinking  (sometimes wishes come true); but we will all be wiser in a few
>months, or  a couple of years at the outside. Perhaps a fine will be
>imposed, or  damages. What is much more likely is that Microsoft will not
>be allowed to  do business as previously, and APIs will be documented and
>licensed.

And, you are speaking for whom with knowledge from who?   The fact is that
people such as Bork and several members of Congress (who are very
pro-business) have publicly stated that if MS is found guilty, they will
have to be broken up to prevent a continuation... that MS has shown they
will not be swayed by...

_____________
Ed Letourneau <[e-mail]>

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From: [e-mail]                                07-Nov-99 12:58:00
  To: All                                               07-Nov-99 15:15:22
Subj: Re: MicroSoft a Monopoly?!?!

From: [e-mail]

[e-mail] (Stan Goodman) said:

>it's hard to see how it can be held by anyone who isn't on
>the Gates payroll that there has not been abusive monopoly.

I seriously doubt there is anyone on the Gates payroll who really thinks MS
has
not abused their monopoly.  That's part of their job description.  My guess is
that these lawyer types are laughing inside at either the duped consumer or at
Gates.  As long as they get the cash they'll fight for anybody or anything.

Jim L
Remove XX from address to Email
Crooks and kooks will get guns regardless of laws.


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From: [e-mail]                          07-Nov-99 19:09:17
  To: All                                               07-Nov-99 15:15:22
Subj: Re: Microsoft findings on CDROM

From: [e-mail] (e-frog)

[e-mail] wrote:
: On November 5, 1999, Judge Thomas Jackson released his finding of facts
: in the US vs Microsoft case. It is being called the most important legal
: decision of the 20th Century by many.  Quiet Vision brings you the entire
: decision on searchable CDROM.  A must have for investors and anyone with
: a computer.

: <A HREF="http://www.quietvision.com">www.quietvision.com</A>

: This book is in Electronic Paperback⌐ Format.  If you view this book on
: a computer system, it will look like a book.  Simple to run, no program
: to install.   Just put the CD in your CDROM drive and start reading.
: The simple easy to use interface is child tested at pre-school levels.
: This Electronic  Paperback⌐ has the Dynamic Index feature. Great for
: preparing school reports and researching text. Just enter "Gates" on the
: find page and then browse all the pages where Bill Gates figures in the
: findings. The find feature will search whatever word or phrase you
: enter.

: Windows/95, Windows/98, OS/2, MacIntosh with Window Emulation, and LInux
: with Window Emulation.

: In a note of postic justice, the entire Electorinc Paperback process
: is run of OS/2 systems. This includes all the virtual type setting done
: in the last 20 hours. Even the CD is burned on OS/2 systems.

It looks interesting, but I have some general comments and questions:
- Your publicity seems low here. I gather you are making enough $$$
elsewhere? Just curious...
- Could you possibly put up some screenshots to show what the reader looks
like?
- Failing that, how about a trial download with a sample 1-page?
- I read your FAQ. No Mac or Linux versions yet cause you have to sell
3000 copies to break even. Does this mean OS/2 is selling > 3000 copies?
Or doing it for the love of OS/2 or....not at liberty to say?

The current titles do not interest me right now, but if others become
available, I might. It wouldn't hurt to release announcements once in a
while ?



Isaac

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From: [e-mail]                                07-Nov-99 11:30:05
  To: All                                               07-Nov-99 15:15:22
Subj: Re: CD-RW for OS2

From: [e-mail] (Jerry McBride)

In article <OsgV3.51602$[e-mail]>,
[e-mail] (A. Willard Reese) wrote:
>I'm considering buying a Yamaha  6x4x16 internal SCSI-2 CD-RW kit with
>an Adaptec PCI SCSI interface card to run on my Warp 4.0, fixpak 11,
>system. Can anyone tell me their experience with such a setup?  How
>about drivers for OS2?  What problems have been encountered, etc?  The
>price is right on this combination but it's no good to me if it won't
>run in OS2.
>

Right off the bat... the 6416 runs just fine under all versions of OS/2 with
the exception of... there have been posts to the effect that the 6416 is not
able to cda with certain software...  Why? I have no idea as I don't own one.

I do own two 4416s drives that have worked flawlessly under os/2 in all
reguards.

--

*******************************************************************************

*            Sometimes, the BEST things in life really ARE free...
*
*       Get a FREE copy of NetRexx 1.151 for your next java project at:
*
*
*
*                      GET IT NOW! WHILE IT'S STILL FREE!
*
*
*
*                     http://www2.hursley.ibm.com/netrexx
*
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From: [e-mail]                                07-Nov-99 12:55:02
  To: All                                               07-Nov-99 15:15:22
Subj: Re: Bootos2 options

From: [e-mail]

[e-mail] said:

>Where does the user go for more information?

Refer to general OS/2 rule number CXIIIVXC.  "If you don't know you shouldn't
want to."

Jim L
Remove XX from address to Email
Crooks and kooks will get guns regardless of laws.


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From: [e-mail]                                   07-Nov-99 18:31:03
  To: All                                               07-Nov-99 15:15:22
Subj: disk administrator and foreign OSes?

From: [e-mail] (F. Heitkamp)

I recently installed NT 4.0 on my PC which also has OS/2 v4.0
and Linux installed.  I have been using Partition Magic to
optimize my drive space for the new setup.  Every time I change
partitions sizes or locations, NT gets all confused and I have
to run disk administrator and reboot numerous times to get NT
straightened out.  Is there any way to get NT to just ignore the
other disks on my system (NT is on the first primary of the first
disk)?  I notice if I tell disk admin to mark a disk offline, it
reverts back to the old config when I reboot.

I've been doing a bit of reading and it looks like NT wants to
write IDs and other info to every disk to implement fault tolerant
algorithms.  Either that or it's another attempt by M$ to sink
interoperability with their competition.

Does anyone know of any replacement (preferably free) disk administrator
utility that runs under Linux or OS/2  (or NT) that will alleviate
my problem?

Fred



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From: [e-mail]                            07-Nov-99 15:30:11
  To: All                                               07-Nov-99 20:07:01
Subj: Re: MicroSoft a Monopoly?!?!

From: David H. McCoy <[e-mail]>

In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] says...
>
>My prediction:  The first domino is about to fall.  We very well could see a
>snowballing
>that could lead to the total downfall of the company.
>
>Nick
>
>

Wasn't Java, Linux, or the Internet supposed to do that?
--
---------------------------------------
David H. McCoy
dmccoy@EXTRACT_THIS_mnsinc.com
---------------------------------------

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From: [e-mail]                                  07-Nov-99 20:54:21
  To: All                                               07-Nov-99 20:07:01
Subj: Re: Microsoft findings on CDROM

From: [e-mail]

In <804ipe$l2f$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (e-frog)
writes:
>It looks interesting, but I have some general comments and questions:
>- Your publicity seems low here. I gather you are making enough $$$
>elsewhere? Just curious...
Electronic Paperbacks (r) are sold through Amazon.com,
barnesandnoble.com, Barnes and Noble Stores, Borders, books-a-Million,
and a number of independent books store. You can order this through any
book store ISBN 1-57646-167-X (the X is important, the check digit).

We also sell direct to schools and libraries. We sell them a system
with 300 books on it and subscriptions to add new ones. (Sorry but it
is W98 do to the fact most libraries and schools have never here of OS/2
or Linux or some even Macs.)

We are also designing an under $400 reader tablet (full color and sound)
probably using DR-DOS embedded (embedded is were Caldera sells most
DR-DOS) and it is 1/10th the price IBM is asking for Os/2 to embed

>- Could you possibly put up some screenshots to show what the reader looks
>like?
Maybe, will look at it.

>- Failing that, how about a trial download with a sample 1-page?
About 8 months ago we had a non illustrated "Jungle Book" available
but it did not translate into sells. The main reason for promoting
our site on this is amazon and bn will do this type of thing Monday
to Friday. Friday by close of business at these two no one knew for
sure this would be releasedand how explosive it would be. So the
Microsoft FInding will show up on those two site Wednesday or later.

>- I read your FAQ. No Mac or Linux versions yet cause you have to sell
>3000 copies to break even. Does this mean OS/2 is selling > 3000 copies?
No OS/2, including the few orders today is less than 50 books,we know of
and no more than 200 was generous allowances.

>Or doing it for the love of OS/2 or....not at liberty to say?
Cost is the main reason. For us, it is cheaper to develop on OS/2 and
port to Windows. We do keep OS/2 listed on the package for love of OS/2.
We have been asked many times to remove. I will not describe the
"conversation" (more of a lecture) I had from a Microsoft Manager "on his
time, not companies" about this.

>
>The current titles do not interest me right now, but if others become
>available, I might. It wouldn't hurt to release announcements once in a
>while ?
We use to send title announcements to comp.os.os2.announce but when it
changed hands, we were told it was not an approiate OS/2 announcement.
One OS/2 ISV complained, so we werer dropped as a non-OS/2 product.
Since OS/2 is minor to us in selling we just dropped posting. If
there is not complaint, we will start posting these to comp.os.os2.misc.
But it is not worth the hassle of a flame war and email bombings to post
into OS/2 groups. This has happened to us in the past when we announced
books.

>Isaac

John M. Schaeffer
[e-mail]
<A HREF="http://www.quietvision.com">www.quietvision.com</A>
Home of the Electronic Paperback (R)

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From: [e-mail]                             08-Nov-99 03:18:00
  To: All                                               07-Nov-99 20:07:01
Subj: Re: Microsoft Ruled Monopoly

From: [e-mail] (taiQ)

On Sat, 6 Nov 1999 13:47:20, [e-mail] (James Knott) thought
aloud:

> I wonder if the full text is available for download somewhere?

It is with _pleasure_ that I pass you this URL...

    http://usvms.gpo.gov/


Brgds,
--
 taiQ

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From: [e-mail]                          07-Nov-99 19:24:20
  To: All                                               07-Nov-99 20:07:01
Subj: Re: Success IBM 240 video driver

From: [e-mail] (e-frog)

Matt Walsh ([e-mail]) wrote:
: I was able to get full install and beautifullllll 800x600 on my IBM 240 with
: the Neomagic driver for the Thinkpad 600e.   Thank you to one and all who
made
: suggestions.  We are a Borg in a friendly way I guess.

: Matt W.

Don't forget to report this to Dr. Martinus' site!
Some of us may wish to repeat your success in the future.


Thanks,
Isaac

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From: [e-mail]                           07-Nov-99 20:21:03
  To: All                                               07-Nov-99 20:07:01
Subj: Re: OS/2 Printer

From: [e-mail] (George Czerw)

On Sat, 6 Nov 1999 01:48:39, "Terry Haimann" <[e-mail]>
wrote:

> I am in the market for a new printer and the Lexmark Optra 40 was
> recommended.  I have checked our local Best Buy & CompUSA and they don't
> carry that model.  What they do have are Lexmark Z series of printers and as

> I have said before what I really need is a printer that will be freindly to
> both os/2 and Linux.  Are one of these printers a renamed Optra Color 40?
It
> needs to be a model that has its own memory and on board processor (NO Win
> Printers) and I am also open to getting either a HP or an Epson if I can get
> a driver that will work.
>
> Thx    Terry
>
>


Terry,

FWIW, I've been using a Hewlett-Packard Deskjet 855C and am very
satisfied with it.


Also,  someone posted that:

CompGeeks.Com is currently advertising the Mita DP-580 laser printer
as a
 close-out special for $103 US after rebate.  This is an exceptional
value in
 an OS/2 Warp compatible budget laser printer.

http://www.compgeeks.com/cgi-bin/details.asp?cat=Printers&sku=205-1580

   OS/2 Warp users: this printer is compatible with the HP PCL5e
printer
   datastream -- a datastream well supported by OS/2 Warp.  Although
not
   explicitly listed as a supported printer in the OS/2 Device Driver
Pak
   Online, this printer should work well with the HP LaserJet 4
driver, for
   example.  If uncertain, please inquire as to any money back
guarantees if
   you purchase the printer.  Despite "1200 dpi class resolution"
claims, this
   printer is probably best operated in 300 or 600 dpi with its
built-in 2 MB
   of RAM (and should probably be regarded as a 600 dpi or even 300
dpi
   printer).

For specifications from Mita's web site visit:

   http://www.mita.com/dp580spec.htm

   (similar specs to the DP-570).

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From: [e-mail]                       07-Nov-99 21:51:28
  To: All                                               07-Nov-99 20:07:01
Subj: Re: Checkini feature now

From: Henk kelder <[e-mail]>

A question will be asked. If answered NO checkini advises to reboot
yourself.

Henk

Graham C. Norris wrote:
>
> Henk kelder wrote:
> > Next release will probably contain in internal WPSReset and an automatic
> > recovery of the backup ini-files if the WPS doesn't come up properly.
>
> Please make this optional (or at least disable-able)! My WPS has flat
> out refused to restart since I installed FP11, I have to shutdown after
> running checkini; an automatic backout would prevent checkini actually
> doing anything at all!
>
> Graham.

--
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From: [e-mail]                                  07-Nov-99 19:16:00
  To: All                                               07-Nov-99 20:07:02
Subj: Re: MicroSoft a Monopoly?!?!

From: [e-mail] (Stan Goodman)

On Sun, 7 Nov 1999 17:45:20, [e-mail] wrote:

> >> No. And if you don't understand it, then I doubt if anyone could ever
> >> explain it to you.

> >Oh, gee! I had relied on users of the NGs to have a sense of humor, but
> >apparently I was wrong to do so. To draw the picture: If Gates was indeed
> > removed from Ha'va'd for playing fast and loose with some ethical tenet,
> > then it is not a surprise that he has wound up in court for doing
> >similarly on a grander scale now.
>
> When using written English, if you want sarcasm to be understood then you
> have to say that is what you intended or write differently then you have.

Sorry. Some people understand sarcasm, and some do not. I appreciate,
however, your concern for my comand of English, and my writing ability and
style.

> >> -- The same attitude prevails in Gates and everyone else making policy at
> >> MS -- which is why some many think MS will have to be broken up. Anything
> >> less will not solve the problem.
>
> >Again, I don't think it will be broken up, I think that's wishful
> >thinking  (sometimes wishes come true); but we will all be wiser in a few
> >months, or  a couple of years at the outside. Perhaps a fine will be
> >imposed, or  damages. What is much more likely is that Microsoft will not
> >be allowed to  do business as previously, and APIs will be documented and
> >licensed.
>
> And, you are speaking for whom with knowledge from who?   The fact is that
> people such as Bork and several members of Congress (who are very
> pro-business) have publicly stated that if MS is found guilty, they will
> have to be broken up to prevent a continuation... that MS has shown they
> will not be swayed by...

Please read again my first sentence in the paragraph that has got you going
now: "I
don't think...". My authority for telling what I think is me. There is
nothing in
anything I have written in this off-topic thread to indicate that I _know_
anything
about the future.

When expressing my opinion about likely future developments, I have been
very
careful to emphasize that ,e.g. "we will all be wiser [after the fat lady
sings]". I have
no idea what you are on about, unless you have a crystal ball that has
renders a
high-definition view of the world two years hence. Perhaps Microsoft will
indeed be
broken up, which would suit me fine. I just doubt that it will play out
that way. If it
does, you are welcome to write to me then, and call me all kinds of names
for
having called it wrong.

> _____________
> Ed Letourneau <[e-mail]>
>

-------------
Stan (Nostradamus) Goodman
Qiryat Tiv'on
Israel

Spammers are getting smarter; email sent to [e-mail] will not reach
me. Sorry.
Send E-mail to: domain: hashkedim dot com, username: stan.



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From: [e-mail]                             07-Nov-99 11:43:24
  To: [e-mail]                         07-Nov-99 20:07:02
Subj: Re: MicroSoft a Monopoly?!?!

To: [e-mail]
From: Nicky Morrow <[e-mail]>

Rod Smith wrote:

> When a ruling comes down, it's virtually certain to be appealed, so there
won't be
> any impact
> from the court case on the ability of any OS to run Windows programs until
> the appeals have run their course.

Rod,

I agree with your above statement, however, the ability to run Windows
programs is a
desire
brought about by the same causes that brought this suit in the first.
Personally I
don't want
to run Windows programs but that's not the point I'm trying to make here.
What I'd
like to
point out to you is that while the press keeps saying that the case will
probably be
appealed
which could take years...this is somewhat misleading and falls into the
category of
FUD
IMHO.  Here is why:

- If MS does not settle with the DOJ before the final verdict then the
findings of
fact and
the verdict proclaiming MS to be an illegal monopoly can be used by any
company
wishing to sue
MS without them having to very expensively reprove it in court.  Keep in mind
that
the
DOJ's only job in their case is to keep the playing field level.  They do not
sue on
behalf of
companies or people that have been damaged.  Those damaged can and will sue
for
damages
in this case.  The law provides for triple damages.  For example:  If IBM case
prove
6 billion
in damages, it will be awarded 18 billion in damages.  What I'm trying to say
here is
that
the flood gates are open for anyone that MS has ever damaged if MS does not
settle
this case
before the verdict is given.  Microsoft is in a "world of hurt" right now.
Keep your
eyes on
the news.

- Microsoft uses internal business practices that are very questionable.
Their use
of selling
put options and the use of stock options as a salary substitute make them very
much
like a
row of dominos.  If the first domino is pushed over, the rest fall down.  Did
you
know
that only 35% of Microsoft's reported profit comes from the sale of products?
The
rest comes
from things such as the 2 items I mention above.  Their stock price is very
over
inflated.

My prediction:  The first domino is about to fall.  We very well could see a
snowballing
that could lead to the total downfall of the company.

Nick


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From: [e-mail]                                     07-Nov-99 14:27:21
  To: All                                               07-Nov-99 20:07:02
Subj: Re: MicroSoft a Monopoly?!?!

From: Joseph <[e-mail]>


"David H. McCoy" wrote:

> In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] says...
> >
> >My prediction:  The first domino is about to fall.  We very well could see
a
> >snowballing
> >that could lead to the total downfall of the company.
> >
> >Nick
>
> Wasn't Java, Linux, or the Internet supposed to do that?
> -

They have.  In fact MS's butt was dragged into court twice over their attempts
to
stop both technologies (Java and the browser market) from bringing the company
down.



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From: [e-mail]                             07-Nov-99 22:06:15
  To: All                                               07-Nov-99 20:07:02
Subj: Re: CD-RW for OS2

From: [e-mail] (Edward Germain)

On Sun, 7 Nov 1999 16:30:11, [e-mail] (Jerry McBride) wrote:

> >I'm considering buying a Yamaha  6x4x16 internal SCSI-2 CD-RW kit with
> >an Adaptec PCI SCSI interface card to run on my Warp 4.0, fixpak 11,
> >system. Can anyone tell me their experience with such a setup?  How
> >about drivers for OS2?  What problems have been encountered, etc?  The
> >price is right on this combination but it's no good to me if it won't
> >run in OS2.
> >
>
> Right off the bat... the 6416 runs just fine under all versions of OS/2 with
> the exception of...

Hmm, I'm in an almost similar situation.  Only I have an Adaptec 2940
on the motherboard.  I imagine it would work OK in this setup, too.
Any comments?

--Ed Germain


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From: [e-mail]                                      07-Nov-99 21:12:18
  To: All                                               07-Nov-99 20:07:02
Subj: Re: disk administrator and foreign OSes?

From: [e-mail] ([e-mail])

Regarding HPFS partitions, change the partition type from 07 to
87 (hex).  Think that's it.  Check deja.com for details.  You
can probably find someting there for other partiton types too.
I use gtdisk (or maybe sedit), but any partition editor will do.

Once you do that these partitions are always ignored.  Careful,
though, since Disk Admin can mess up the boot partition something
nasty if you use it to assign boot/startup partitions.  To do that,
use OS/2 fdisk/fdiskpm instead, no matter how tempting it is to use
Disk Admin.  I use gtdisk to backup the partition sectors.  It's
come in handy.

F. Heitkamp? ([e-mail]?) wrote (7 Nov 1999 18:31:06 GMT):
>straightened out.  Is there any way to get NT to just ignore the
>other disks on my system (NT is on the first primary of the first
 '`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'
 Corne1 Huth  -  http://40th.com/
 Bullet database engines/servers 3.1  Win32-WinCE-OS2-Linux+

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From: [e-mail]                                   07-Nov-99 21:13:25
  To: All                                               07-Nov-99 20:07:02
Subj: Re: Athlon, ASUS K7M Motherboard, and OS/2

From: [e-mail] (David Kunz)

Carsten Frank ([e-mail]) wrote:

: Are you shure that OS/2 detects all the memory. Can you check it
: with some other utilitys like filecommander and other utilitys.

: How much memory reports theseus? Can you post a screen shot

I have an ASUS P2B-S with OS/2 memory turned off in the bios.  Every
memory utility that I've used (including Theseus) reports that OS/2 is
using all of the memory as memory.

--
David Kunz
Operator error.  Replace operator and strike any key to continue...

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From: [e-mail]                            07-Nov-99 21:24:11
  To: All                                               07-Nov-99 20:07:02
Subj: Re: Warpseeme ?

From: [e-mail] (Merlin)

In message
<[e-mail]> -
[e-mail] (Carl S.) writes:
:>
:>Since there has been no activity on warpseeme.com since 5/25/99 and
:>noone is on the irc channel....
:>
:>Does anybody know if the project is dead?
:>
:>
:>Thanks,
:>
:>Carl S
:>



This project is alive and still in progress.  Vinicius has informed me there
is another set of hands working on the code.  Check out the www.warpseeme.com
page for a standalone webcam..



__________________________________
merlin of OS/2 on Merlin, fp12,
  TCP/IP 4.1, Java 1.1.8
       Emtec News
   www.blackpalace.com
[e-mail] ICQ 245937
__________________________________

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From: [e-mail]                     07-Nov-99 21:40:20
  To: All                                               07-Nov-99 20:07:02
Subj: Re: A clip from DOJ judge on OS/2

From: [e-mail] (Glen D)

On 7 Nov 1999 05:53:29 GMT, [e-mail] (rj friedman) wrote:

>On Sat, 6 Nov 1999 08:17:09, "Doug Darrow"
><[e-mail]> wrote:
>
>
>»>IBM will eventually offer a commercial OS/2 update.  It will be
>»>sometime in 2000 and it will be quiet and aimed at those of
>»>us who have stood by OS/2's side throughout this entire
>»>Microsoft monopoly.  ...
>
>»....and then the alarm clock on my nightstand rang and awakened me from
>»my dream world, forcing me to face another day of reality instead.
>
>I agree with the first poster. IBM may not release a brand
>new shrink wrapped client with a new name and a splashy
>rollout, but what they will - eventually - do is get all the
>new features and functions out via the update/fixpack route
>- like they have been doing for the past two years.
>
>Frankly, I just can't understand why so many people are
>acting like babies about this issue: "IBM won't give us a
>shiny new toy in a brand new box! WAhhhh! Mean old IBM. They
>don't love us. They only love our big brother - the large
>corporations. Waaahhh! I'll show them! I'll run away from
>home and go live with [Linux] [NT] [Mac] [Be] [Younameit].
>Waaahhhh!!!
>
>
>
>________________________________________________________
>
>[RJ]                 OS/2 - Live it, or live with it.
>rj friedman          Team ABW
>Taipei, Taiwan       [e-mail]
>
>To send email - remove the `yyy'
>________________________________________________________
>

Hasn'y anyone seen the article on WarpCast about rumours of an Aurora
client?


Glen D
-<remove Z from my e-mail address>-

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From: [e-mail]                                  07-Nov-99 22:12:17
  To: All                                               07-Nov-99 20:07:02
Subj: Warp's MPTS Config with NT4 Peer

From: [e-mail] (Mark Mellin)

I'm a bit confused between the adapters/slots/logical/physical
and the necessary protocols for connecting a gateway/local lan.

The "network" (HA!!), is a home built spiders nest of wires
as follows:

OS/2 Peer (FP-8412) Gateway:
----------------------------------------------
----------------------------------------------
Set up with the hostname from my ISP, and the
computer name as "NAME-1" in domain "WARPNET",
with MPTS (FP-8620) configured for:

2 x NICs (RTL8139, and SMC1211TX) with;

**  - SMC1211TX, 10BaseT from cable modem.
    0 - IBM OS/2 NETBIOS
    0 - IBM TCP/IP

**  - RTL8139, 100BaseT to hub.
    2 - IBM OS/2 NETBIOS over TCP/IP
    1 - IBM OS/2 NETBIOS
    1 - IBM TCP/IP

Questions:
----------
Do I have the protocols installed correctly ?
Do I really need NetBios on the SMC NIC ?
Do I need NetBios on the RTL NIC, for NT,
   perhaps just for other Peer OS2 machines ?
Is the RTL NIC's logical adapter numbers correct
   and in the right order ?
Can/should there be a domain name for a peer
   gateway ?
Should the computer name be differerent from the
   local machine name assigned by my ISP ?


TCP/IP 4.1, FP-1001 is configured as:
---------------------------------------------------
Lan-0:      - Static IP/subnet from cable modem ISP
                 *working*
Lan-1:      - My local IP/subnet
             (192.168.1.1 & 255.255.255.0)
                 *not working*
LoopBack:   - 127.0.0.0 with no subnet
Routing:    - "Default", ISP's router, metric=1
            - IP Forwarding is on
                 I have no idea what the "net" & "host"
                 or "default routes" are...
Host Names: - Host & local domain from/for ISP
            - Names servers from/for ISP

Questions:
----------
None really - other than the difference between the "default",
"net" and "host" are (the on-line help did precious little to
explain this)


The other half is NT4 (and I suspect is the problem)...

NT4 Client (SP5) peer:
----------------------------------------------
----------------------------------------------
Configured as "NAME-2" of "WARPNET", with:
1 x NICs (RTL8139) with;

**  - RTL8139, 100BaseT from hub.
    NetBEUI Protocol
    TCP/IP Protocol

    Computer Name is "NAME-2"
    Workgroup is "WARPNET"
    Static IP is 192.168.1.2
    Subnet is    255.255.255.0
    Default Gateway is 192.168.1.1
    *all* of the DNS info is as assigned by
       my ISP.
    IP forwarding is on.

Questions:
----------
Should the workgroup be "WARPNET" ?
Should the Default Gateway be my gateway, and
   not the ISP's gateway ?
Should IP forwarding be on for a peer machine ?
Should all of the DNS entries on a peer be set
   to/for the provider ?

Why am I setting up a network in my home ??
Where can I find a BIG cold beer


Thanks in advance for *any* help with this lunacy !!
Mark Mellin

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From: [e-mail]                             07-Nov-99 22:39:18
  To: All                                               07-Nov-99 20:07:02
Subj: Re: OS2 e-Zine, new publishing systems, and a beta

From: Rick Davis <[e-mail]>

In article <[e-mail]>,
  [e-mail] wrote:
> On Sat, 6 Nov 1999 14:19:50, [e-mail] (Dan Casey) wrote:
>
> > I believe the new system is scheduled to go online January 1, 2000.
> > Look for more news and information as that date approaches.
>
>  Chris Wright is putting together an issue the "old fashioned way"
> (with all the scripts and stuff that built an issue offline, the HTML
> files for which would then be FTPed to the server).
>  I've been working on a new publishing system that's intended to
> replace those scripts, but it'll be up to Falcon Networking which way
> they want to go.
>
>  I happen to be working on, and testing the publishing system at the
> following staging area:
>
>  http://blimey.netmonger.net/e-zine-ii/
>
>  This is not guaranteed to be a stable staging area, nor is it meant
> to be a "new address" for the e-Zine! It's also not set in stone that
> this will be the future of the e-Zine!, since I don't own the
> publication and can't dictate what happens to it.
>
> Regards,
>
> Chris Wenham - [e-mail]
> Editor-In-Chief for OS/2 e-Zine!
> http://www.os2ezine.com/
> The views expressed are mine.
>

Thanks Chris


Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.

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From: [e-mail]                                  08-Nov-99 00:53:29
  To: All                                               07-Nov-99 21:28:07
Subj: TalkCity.com Has An OS/2 Chat Room!!!

From: CII <[e-mail]>

I was looking for an OS/2 Chat Room and Found one at Talk City.

Though I have only seen a few people at a time using it.

So I figured that most of you did not know it was there.....


Computing-OS/2

is the room,

It was hidden in the back of the building somewhere....

Hope to see you there....

--
http://trss.webjump.com


Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.

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From: [e-mail]                                    07-Nov-99 23:25:06
  To: All                                               07-Nov-99 21:28:08
Subj: Re: CD-RW for OS2

From: [e-mail] (Bob Eager)

On Sun, 7 Nov 1999 22:06:31, [e-mail] (Edward Germain)
wrote:

> > Right off the bat... the 6416 runs just fine under all versions of OS/2
with
> > the exception of...
>
> Hmm, I'm in an almost similar situation.  Only I have an Adaptec 2940
> on the motherboard.  I imagine it would work OK in this setup, too.
> Any comments?

I've been running the 4416S for several months now. I have an IBM
Server 325 which has the Adaptec 7880 on the main board (2940
chipset). Runs fine.

I use the RSJ software, which I found was cheaper from BMT Micro!

--
Bob Eager
rde at tavi.co.uk
PC Server 325; PS/2s 8595*3, 9595*3 (2*P60 + P90), 8535, 8570, 9556*2,
8580*6,
8557*2, 8550, 9577, 8530, P70, PC/AT..

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From: [e-mail]...               07-Nov-99 15:38:08
  To: All                                               07-Nov-99 21:28:08
Subj: Theta Band Software announces the distribution of MMPack through Mensys

Message sender: [e-mail]

From: Julien Pierre <[e-mail]>


Theta Band Software's Multimedia Pack for OS/2 is now available for
ordering
through Mensys at http://www.mensys.nl .

MMPack is a collection of utilities to enhance OS/2 multimedia, and
contains
the following programs :

MMCheck
This is a utility that checks your MMPM/2 installation (i.e.
MMPM2.INI) for errors or suspicious settings. If it finds any, it  will
tell
you what they are, so that you can fix them.

MPU-401 Driver
This is a replacement for IBM's MPU-401 driver, which is used to  MIDI
support
for a number of sound cards, including sound cards that  use the Crystal
Semiconductor drivers. Enhancements over
IBM's driver
include :

                fixes for Warp 3
                SMP compatibility
                better hardware compatibility
                DOS sharing
                RTMIDI recording without an IRQ
                and more!

NPDSMI 2.0

This is a plug-in for Netscape Navigator and Communicator for OS/2.  The
function of the DSMI plug-in is to play music module files  embedded on
web
pages. Module files are 32 channel digital music and  are of
tremendously high
quality. This new version 2.0 of the DSMI  Netscape plug-in supports
compressed zip module files.

More information about MMPack is available on our web site at

http://www.thetaband.com

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Julien Pierre               http://www.madbrain.com
Theta Band Software LLC     http://www.thetaband.com
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From: [e-mail]                               07-Nov-99 18:53:02
  To: All                                               07-Nov-99 21:28:08
Subj: Re: CD-RW for OS2

From: Duane Chamblee <[e-mail]>

Bob Eager wrote:
> I've been running the 4416S for several months now. I have an IBM
> Server 325 which has the Adaptec 7880 on the main board (2940
> chipset). Runs fine.

Ditto, I make the some WarpUP! cds with this.

> I use the RSJ software, which I found was cheaper from BMT Micro!

Actually, have you looked at Indelible Blue's price recently? ;-)

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From: [e-mail]                                05-Nov-99 03:07:07
  To: All                                               07-Nov-99 21:28:08
Subj: Warp 4.0 install tactics

From: [e-mail] (User)

Hi all. I need help with Warp 4.0 and its installer. I D/L'ed the
latest device driver from IBM's Device Driver site to update the
install floppies so that they recognize hard drives bigger than 8 Gb.
Now my 6.4 Gb hard drive looks like this:-

PARTITION 1:        FAT16        DOS622    830Mb
PARTITION 2:        FAT32        WIN 98        2.0GB

6X CD-ROM    Primary Master
6.4Gb HDD    Secondary Master
LS-120 FDD    Primary Slave (as yet not connected)

The rest of the 3.0Gb-something freespace is idle. My question is
this; does Warp have to installed first (i.e in the first 1Gb of the
drive) because of the 1024 cylinder limit? Or can it be anywhere in
the freespace of the drive? I was told by a few others that Warp needs
to be in the first gig of hard drive space. Also, can the partition
where Warp is installed be bigger than 1Gb or what? That's my other
query. I'm asking all of this because I've been tearing my hair out
trying to get Warp installed. A few others have done it successfully,
so what's the deal with me? If anyone can assist me, offer some sane
advice or a copy of their Warp 4.0 install floppies , I would be
extremely grateful. Thanks all for reading. CYA!!!

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From: [e-mail]...               07-Nov-99 16:06:20
  To: All                                               07-Nov-99 21:28:08
Subj: Re: Netscape Plug-ins

Message sender: [e-mail]

From: Julien Pierre <[e-mail]>

Plug-ins run within the Netscape process. There is no "associated
executable" - all the code is in the plug-in DLL. For example, the
Digital Sound & Music Interface for OS/2 plug-in at
http://www.thetaband.com/npdsmi loads all the multimedia code into the
Netscape process.

Netscape loads all plug-in DLLs that match "PLUGINS\NP*.DLL" when it
starts. If you want more information on how plug-ins work, download the
OS/2 Netscape plug-in toolkit from IBM.

The Acrobat PDF plug-in is an exception - the plug-in DLL does IPC with
their ACROREAD.EXE to pass the data. It's a much more complicated
plug-in than most, and there is no role for this type of implementation.

John Poltorak wrote:
>
> Can some point me to a guide to how Netscape plug-ins work?
>
> I realise you need to copy a DLL from the plug-in to the directory :-
>
> x:\netscape\PROGRAM\PLUGINS
>
> But I can't work out how the DLL locates the associated executable,
> such as acroread.exe for example. Do I need to set up an association
> between the file type PDF and Acroread.exe to be able to use the Acrobat
> plug-in?
>
> I need to be able to install any plug-ins manually rather than using some
> sort of flash 'wizard'.
>
> --
> John

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Julien Pierre               http://www.madbrain.com
Theta Band Software LLC     http://www.thetaband.com
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From: [e-mail]...               07-Nov-99 16:07:07
  To: All                                               07-Nov-99 21:28:08
Subj: Re: Netscape Plug-ins

Message sender: [e-mail]

From: Julien Pierre <[e-mail]>

Plug-ins run within the Netscape process. There is no "associated
executable" - all the code is in the plug-in DLL. For example, the
Digital Sound & Music Interface for OS/2 plug-in at
http://www.thetaband.com/npdsmi loads all the multimedia code into the
Netscape process.

Netscape loads all plug-in DLLs that match "PLUGINS\NP*.DLL" when it
starts. If you want more information on how plug-ins work, download the
OS/2 Netscape plug-in toolkit from IBM.

The Acrobat PDF plug-in is an exception - the plug-in DLL does IPC with
their ACROREAD.EXE to pass the data. It's a much more complicated
plug-in than most, and there is no role for this type of implementation.









John Poltorak wrote:
>
> Can some point me to a guide to how Netscape plug-ins work?
>
> I realise you need to copy a DLL from the plug-in to the directory :-
>
> x:\netscape\PROGRAM\PLUGINS
>
> But I can't work out how the DLL locates the associated executable,
> such as acroread.exe for example. Do I need to set up an association
> between the file type PDF and Acroread.exe to be able to use the Acrobat
> plug-in?
>
> I need to be able to install any plug-ins manually rather than using some
> sort of flash 'wizard'.
>
> --
> John

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Julien Pierre               http://www.madbrain.com
Theta Band Software LLC     http://www.thetaband.com
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From: [e-mail]                        08-Nov-99 00:50:27
  To: All                                               07-Nov-99 21:28:08
Subj: Re: Netscape Plug-ins

From: [e-mail] (John Poltorak)

In <[e-mail]>, Julien Pierre
<[e-mail]> writes:
>Plug-ins run within the Netscape process. There is no "associated
>executable" - all the code is in the plug-in DLL. For example, the
>Digital Sound & Music Interface for OS/2 plug-in at
>http://www.thetaband.com/npdsmi loads all the multimedia code into the
>Netscape process.
>
>Netscape loads all plug-in DLLs that match "PLUGINS\NP*.DLL" when it
>starts. If you want more information on how plug-ins work, download the
>OS/2 Netscape plug-in toolkit from IBM.
>
>The Acrobat PDF plug-in is an exception - the plug-in DLL does IPC with
>their ACROREAD.EXE to pass the data. It's a much more complicated
>plug-in than most, and there is no role for this type of implementation.

I'm specifically  interested in the Acrobat PDF...

I understand about the PLUGINS directory under Netscape, but I can't
figure out how NPPDFOS2.DLL finds ACROREAD.EXE if it is not on the path
and has no association set up with PDF files. There is a file - NSCP.INI
in  C:\OS2 which on my system has an entry for ACROREAD. Is this where
Netscape gets its info?


>John Poltorak wrote:
>>
>> Can some point me to a guide to how Netscape plug-ins work?
>>
>> I realise you need to copy a DLL from the plug-in to the directory :-
>>
>> x:\netscape\PROGRAM\PLUGINS
>>
>> But I can't work out how the DLL locates the associated executable,
>> such as acroread.exe for example. Do I need to set up an association
>> between the file type PDF and Acroread.exe to be able to use the Acrobat
>> plug-in?
>>
>> I need to be able to install any plug-ins manually rather than using some
>> sort of flash 'wizard'.
>>
>> --
>> John
>
>--
>--------------------------------------------------------------------
>Julien Pierre               http://www.madbrain.com
>Theta Band Software LLC     http://www.thetaband.com
>--------------------------------------------------------------------
--
John

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From: [e-mail]                                  08-Nov-99 14:43:07
  To: All                                               08-Nov-99 03:40:16
Subj: Re: MicroSoft a Monopoly?!?!

From: Aaron Lawrence <[e-mail]>

Raphael Tennenbaum wrote:

> Whatever else he's done he's created a most interesting sort
> of lab experiment in "What People Think."  Of the "normal"
> folks I talk to about computers (they use what they've given
> at work) typically one might use a Mac at home and quietly
> hate MS but never say anything at the job.  Another is just

Hmmm... this is interesting. I explained the summary of the findings
to my flatmate who is a 'normal' user. Her first reaction was
'Oh no! More operating systems... it's been really good having
just windows everywhere'... of course we discussed it further. But
I can imagine this is symptomatic of many users everywhere. It's
quite comfortable having just the one thing to think about. They
might complain about it crashing or doing mysterious things or getting
slower and slower, but that doesn't mean they'd be interested in
changing!

My extension what they are probably most worried about is management
or IT making them use something else...

Aaron

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From: [e-mail]                                  08-Nov-99 14:32:22
  To: All                                               08-Nov-99 03:40:16
Subj: Re: Theta Band Software announces the distribution of MMPack through

From: Aaron Lawrence <[e-mail]>

Julien Pierre wrote:

> Theta Band Software's Multimedia Pack for OS/2 is now available for
> ordering
> through Mensys at http://www.mensys.nl .

I had a look at this, and it's cool, but the things in it aren't really
compelling to me. There are more pressing problems with MMOS/2 such as the
lack of much PCI soundcard support. IMHO.



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From: [e-mail]                           08-Nov-99 01:28:21
  To: All                                               08-Nov-99 03:40:16
Subj: Re: Warp's MPTS Config with NT4 Peer

From: [e-mail] (Lorne Sunley)

On Sun, 7 Nov 1999 22:12:34, [e-mail] (Mark Mellin) wrote:

> I'm a bit confused between the adapters/slots/logical/physical
> and the necessary protocols for connecting a gateway/local lan.
>
> The "network" (HA!!), is a home built spiders nest of wires
> as follows:
>
> OS/2 Peer (FP-8412) Gateway:
> ----------------------------------------------
> ----------------------------------------------
> Set up with the hostname from my ISP, and the
> computer name as "NAME-1" in domain "WARPNET",
> with MPTS (FP-8620) configured for:
>
> 2 x NICs (RTL8139, and SMC1211TX) with;
>
> **  - SMC1211TX, 10BaseT from cable modem.
>     0 - IBM OS/2 NETBIOS
>     0 - IBM TCP/IP
>
> **  - RTL8139, 100BaseT to hub.
>     2 - IBM OS/2 NETBIOS over TCP/IP
>     1 - IBM OS/2 NETBIOS
>     1 - IBM TCP/IP
>
> Questions:
> ----------
> Do I have the protocols installed correctly ?

Sort of

> Do I really need NetBios on the SMC NIC ?

No, this protocol is not used for anything when it
is bound to this NIC or at least it shouldn't.

> Do I need NetBios on the RTL NIC, for NT,

Yes, if you have NT using NETBIOS/NETBEUI rather
than NETBIOS/TCPIP (which is NT's default)

>    perhaps just for other Peer OS2 machines ?

The other Peer OS/2 machines will use it if they
are configured with OS/2 NETBIOS

> Is the RTL NIC's logical adapter numbers correct
>    and in the right order ?

They will change if you remove the NETBIOS from
the SMC NIC

> Can/should there be a domain name for a peer
>    gateway ?

There are actually two "domain" names involved
one is for the TCP/IP internet access which is
your ISP's domain name. The other "WARPNET"
is for the file sharing NETBIOS domain.

The two "domains" are totally separate.

> Should the computer name be differerent from the
>    local machine name assigned by my ISP ?
>

I don't think it makes any difference if you are
using static IP assignments. DHCP (dynamic IP)
would be different.

>
> TCP/IP 4.1, FP-1001 is configured as:
> ---------------------------------------------------
> Lan-0:      - Static IP/subnet from cable modem ISP
>                  *working*
> Lan-1:      - My local IP/subnet
>              (192.168.1.1 & 255.255.255.0)
>                  *not working*
> LoopBack:   - 127.0.0.0 with no subnet
> Routing:    - "Default", ISP's router, metric=1
>             - IP Forwarding is on
>                  I have no idea what the "net" & "host"
>                  or "default routes" are...
> Host Names: - Host & local domain from/for ISP
>             - Names servers from/for ISP
>
> Questions:
> ----------
> None really - other than the difference between the "default",
> "net" and "host" are (the on-line help did precious little to
> explain this)

The "default" route is used to pass along packets for
IP addresses that are not otherwise named in one of
the other "route" statments.

This should be set to your ISP's "gateway" or "router"
address.

The "net" route is used to pass along packets
addressed to the sub-net named in the route statement

The "net " route for your 192.168.1 sub-net should be
192.168.1.1 This is usually set up automatically. Otherwise
your TCPIP setup notebook should contain one. This
will route the 192.168.1.X packets to the correct NIC.

>
>
> The other half is NT4 (and I suspect is the problem)...
>
> NT4 Client (SP5) peer:
> ----------------------------------------------
> ----------------------------------------------
> Configured as "NAME-2" of "WARPNET", with:
> 1 x NICs (RTL8139) with;
>
> **  - RTL8139, 100BaseT from hub.
>     NetBEUI Protocol
>     TCP/IP Protocol
>
>     Computer Name is "NAME-2"
>     Workgroup is "WARPNET"
>     Static IP is 192.168.1.2
>     Subnet is    255.255.255.0
>     Default Gateway is 192.168.1.1
>     *all* of the DNS info is as assigned by
>        my ISP.
>     IP forwarding is on.
>
> Questions:
> ----------
> Should the workgroup be "WARPNET" ?

Yes, any machines on the local LAN should
all have the same netbios "DOMAIN" name. This is
the one used for the "file sharing" workgroup.

> Should the Default Gateway be my gateway, and
>    not the ISP's gateway ?

Yes, it should be your "gateway" 192.168.1.1

> Should IP forwarding be on for a peer machine ?

No

> Should all of the DNS entries on a peer be set
>    to/for the provider ?
>

Yes

> Why am I setting up a network in my home ??

It's a good way to develop a craving for TWO cold beers

> Where can I find a BIG cold beer
>

In the 'fridge second shelf down, on the right.....

>
> Thanks in advance for *any* help with this lunacy !!

On the NT machine what protocols do you
have "installed", "turned on" or whatever they
call it in the "Network" icon? You need TCP/IP
which you must have or you could not set up
the parameters.

For "file and print sharing" you do not need the
NETBIOS over TCP/IP you could just
use NETBEUI which is faster on a small LAN
and is less likely to lead to inadvertant sharing
of stuff that may be visible to the entire internet.

Questions to you....

Can you PING the NT machines IP address
from the gateway machine?

Can you PING the gateway machine from the
NT machine?

Do you have some sort of NAT gateway software
installed like Injoys Gateway http://www.fx.dk ?

You will need this to translate the 192.168.X.X addresses
to allow the other machines to access the internet.
WARNING - only install it after you have the base
network working between the local machines.

The 192.168.X.X addresses will not be passed along
as they are "private" network IP addresses and the
internet routers will drop them.

Lorne Sunley


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From: charlesb@summerfieldtechnology.c...               08-Nov-99 01:11:04
  To: All                                               08-Nov-99 03:40:16
Subj: Re: disk administrator and foreign OSes?

Message sender: [e-mail]

From: "Charles Blackburn" <[e-mail]>

NT Disk Administrator, keeps it's own database about the partition sizes and
locations, therefore you need to re-initialise them each time you cahnge the
partition tables

--
Charles Blackburn
Summerfield Technology Limited - Official SuSE Reseller & Sponser of the
Birmingham L.U.G
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From: [e-mail]                                  08-Nov-99 14:50:18
  To: All                                               08-Nov-99 03:40:16
Subj: Re: A clip from DOJ judge on OS/2

From: Aaron Lawrence <[e-mail]>

Stan Goodman wrote:

> > In the reports, MS is putting up an extremely strong rhetorical front at
least.
> > They have vowed to fight on in behalf of the consumer.
> >
> >   H - A - H  !  !
>
> What's funny? You don't think that, with his income, he is a major
> consumer?

ROTFL!!! Very good...


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From: [e-mail]                                  08-Nov-99 14:54:21
  To: All                                               08-Nov-99 03:40:16
Subj: Tracking programs run from config.sys

From: Aaron Lawrence <[e-mail]>

Hi all,

Is there any equivalent to Alt-F2 (that shows the device drivers being
loaded during boot) that shows what programs are being run from
config.sys? I was pretty dissappointed to find Alt-F2 *didn't* do this
cause something in my networking is locking up on boot...

TIA

Aaron

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From: [e-mail]                            07-Nov-99 18:06:01
  To: All                                               08-Nov-99 03:40:16
Subj: Re: OS2 e-Zine, new publishing systems, and a beta

From: Lee Reilly <[e-mail]>

Rick Davis wrote:

> >  http://blimey.netmonger.net/e-zine-ii/

Looks like the publishers are going to charge.
Too bad.  I'll stick to the newsgroups thank you.

LEE

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From: [e-mail]                             07-Nov-99 21:40:00
  To: All                                               08-Nov-99 03:40:16
Subj: Re: Warp 4.0 install tactics

From: Alan Beagley <[e-mail]>

The *bootable* Warp partition has to be within the first 1024 cylinders.
With modern drives with LBA (Logical Block Addressing), this works out to
about 8GB, I think.

I don't think that OS/2 will accept your current drive arrangement: it is
not acceptable to have a device on the Secondary Master with nothing on
the Primary Slave.

In addition, it seems strange to have the CD-ROM drive as the Primary
Master. The boot drive is normally the Primary Master. Your arrangement
may work, but it does seem unusual.

You will have to let OS/2 install Boot Manager first. This takes one
cylinder of your disk.

Alan


User wrote:

> Hi all. I need help with Warp 4.0 and its installer. I D/L'ed the
> latest device driver from IBM's Device Driver site to update the
> install floppies so that they recognize hard drives bigger than 8 Gb.
> Now my 6.4 Gb hard drive looks like this:-
>
> PARTITION 1:            FAT16           DOS622  830Mb
> PARTITION 2:            FAT32           WIN 98          2.0GB
>
> 6X CD-ROM       Primary Master
> 6.4Gb HDD       Secondary Master
> LS-120 FDD      Primary Slave (as yet not connected)
>
> The rest of the 3.0Gb-something freespace is idle. My question is
> this; does Warp have to installed first (i.e in the first 1Gb of the
> drive) because of the 1024 cylinder limit? Or can it be anywhere in
> the freespace of the drive? I was told by a few others that Warp needs
> to be in the first gig of hard drive space. Also, can the partition
> where Warp is installed be bigger than 1Gb or what? That's my other
> query. I'm asking all of this because I've been tearing my hair out
> trying to get Warp installed. A few others have done it successfully,
> so what's the deal with me? If anyone can assist me, offer some sane
> advice or a copy of their Warp 4.0 install floppies , I would be
> extremely grateful. Thanks all for reading. CYA!!!

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From: [e-mail]                    08-Nov-99 04:15:18
  To: All                                               08-Nov-99 03:40:17
Subj: Re: CD-RW for OS2

From: [e-mail] (John Hong)

A. Willard Reese ([e-mail]) wrote:
: I'm considering buying a Yamaha  6x4x16 internal SCSI-2 CD-RW kit with
: an Adaptec PCI SCSI interface card to run on my Warp 4.0, fixpak 11,
: system. Can anyone tell me their experience with such a setup?  How
: about drivers for OS2?  What problems have been encountered, etc?  The
: price is right on this combination but it's no good to me if it won't
: run in OS2.

    Is the Yamaha your only choice?  Seeing as how Plextor, Yamaha,
and Ricoh all make the best CDR/CDRW drives, the Ricoh models I find (at
least in Canada) seem to run a little cheaper.  In my case, only $40, but
still...$40 more for buying CDR's for me. ;-)
    I have the 7040S (4x write, 4x re-write, 20x read).  They have a
newer model that replaces it in the 7060S (a 6x write).  Plextor while
being the best of the bunch are also the most expensive.

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From: [e-mail]                             08-Nov-99 14:02:23
  To: All                                               08-Nov-99 03:40:17
Subj: Win-OS/2 Print Manager Starts Automatically with Win-OS/2 - WHY?

From: "Christopher E. Souter" <[e-mail]>

Hi,everyone!

Does anyone know why Print Manager starts automatically
when Win-OS/2 starts up?

I have looked in all the usual places, such as the
StartUp group, the "load= " line in the WIN.INI file,
the SYSTEM.INI file, the PROGMAN.INI and the
CONTROL.INI files.

Print Manager is *NOT* in my StartUp group, and there
is *DEFINITELY* no reference to it in any of the
above-mentioned files.

Can anyone tell me what is causing it to start up every
time Win-OS/2 starts, and how I can stop it?

I am using a Windows printer driver which does not use
Print Manager, and I want to avoid conflicts.

I am using OS/2 Warp 4 (FullPack), with FixPak 9, but
this problem has existed since I installed Warp , i.e.,
before any FixPaks were applied.

Thanks in advance
Chris Souter
(Australia)
[e-mail]



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From: [e-mail]                             08-Nov-99 14:19:19
  To: All                                               08-Nov-99 03:40:17
Subj: True Type Fonts in Warp 4?  HOW???

From: "Christopher E. Souter" <[e-mail]>

Hi, everybody!

I recently upgraded from Warp 3 to Warp 4.

One reason why I did this is because I understood that,
among other things, Warp 4 is supposed to support True
Type fonts.

However, I have searched all the online documentation
and I just can't find any reference to True Type fonts
anywhere.

So, how do you install them?  Is it through the Font
Palette?  Where do you find the True Type Fonts in a
standard Warp 4 system?  How do you get the Font
Palette to recognise them?

Thenks in advance
Chris Souter
(Australia)
[e-mail]




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From: [e-mail]                                08-Nov-99 15:55:19
  To: All                                               08-Nov-99 03:40:17
Subj: Re: True Type Fonts in Warp 4?  HOW???

From: "Shane Baker" <[e-mail]>

On Mon, 08 Nov 1999 14:19:39 +1000, Christopher E. Souter wrote:

>I recently upgraded from Warp 3 to Warp 4.
>
>One reason why I did this is because I understood that,
>among other things, Warp 4 is supposed to support True
>Type fonts.
>
>However, I have searched all the online documentation
>and I just can't find any reference to True Type fonts
>anywhere.
>
>So, how do you install them?  Is it through the Font
>Palette?  Where do you find the True Type Fonts in a
>standard Warp 4 system?  How do you get the Font
>Palette to recognise them?

Font Pallette -> Edit Font -> Add  ..... and then select the fonts from the
source.

Regards

Shane Baker
Canberra - Australia's national capital
_____________________________
sbakerATpcug.org.au - please make the obvious change when replying
Australian Pets newsgroup - aus.pets  <<>>  Australian Dogs Page -
http://www.pcug.org.au/~sbaker/dogs.htm



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From: james.arnold@!!!usa.net                           08-Nov-99 03:31:20
  To: All                                               08-Nov-99 03:40:17
Subj: Re: Win-OS/2 Print Manager Starts Automatically with Win-OS/2 - WHY?

From: james.arnold@!!!usa.net

In <[e-mail]>, "Christopher E. Souter"
<[e-mail]> writes:
>Hi,everyone!
>
>Does anyone know why Print Manager starts automatically
>when Win-OS/2 starts up?
>
>I have looked in all the usual places, such as the
>StartUp group, the "load= " line in the WIN.INI file,
>the SYSTEM.INI file, the PROGMAN.INI and the
>CONTROL.INI files.
>
>Print Manager is *NOT* in my StartUp group, and there
>is *DEFINITELY* no reference to it in any of the
>above-mentioned files.
>
>Can anyone tell me what is causing it to start up every
>time Win-OS/2 starts, and how I can stop it?
>
>I am using a Windows printer driver which does not use
>Print Manager, and I want to avoid conflicts.
>
>I am using OS/2 Warp 4 (FullPack), with FixPak 9, but
>this problem has existed since I installed Warp , i.e.,
>before any FixPaks were applied.
>

        It is a "feature"!

        To stop the Win-OS/2 Print Manager forever add the following to
the "[boot]" section of system.ini:

        MAVDMAPPS=

        Once that is done you won't be bothered by Print Manager again.

        Jim

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From: [e-mail]                           08-Nov-99 04:36:12
  To: All                                               08-Nov-99 03:40:17
Subj: Re: CD-ROM not showing up

From: [e-mail] (Lorne Sunley)

On Mon, 8 Nov 1999 04:07:59, [e-mail] (M.D. Madden) wrote:

> I am running Warp 3, CD-ROM edition and it installs just fine. However
> after I reboot into the real session there is no CD-ROM drives
> recognized. Now I applied FIXPAC 42 by copying the FIXPAC to a
> partition and installed it from there. However, there were still no
> CD-ROM drives recognized. According to IBM's device driver site if the
> drive is supported then it will be there. Does anyone know to install
> CD-ROM drivers?? I have a Creative Labs CD-RW, and a Toshiba DVD rom
> drive. Both IDE.
> Thanks for any help
>

I think you may have to install the updated IDEDASD drivers from
the Device Driver Repository

ftp://ftp.software.ibm.com/ps/products/os2/os2ddpak/idedasd.exe

Check the config.sys file contents. The config.sys file should have

basedev=ibm1s506.add
basedev=ibmidecd.flt
basedev=ibmatapi.flt
device=c:\os2\boot\os2cdrom.dmd /Q
ifs=c:\os2\boot\cdifs.ifs /Q
device=c:\os2\mdos\vcdrom.sys

in it to support CD-ROM devices. The ibm1s506.add will probably be
there as it is required for IDE hard drives.

Make sure any CDROM drives that are all by
themselves on an IDE port are set as MASTER.

Lorne Sunley

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From: [e-mail]                           08-Nov-99 00:57:17
  To: All                                               08-Nov-99 03:40:17
Subj: Re: MicroSoft a Monopoly?!?!

From: Bob Germer <[e-mail]>

On <38254acd$1$yrgbherq$[e-mail]>, on 11/07/99 at 04:47 AM,
   [e-mail] said:

> Did he drop out. I heard he was asked to leave or be thrown out for an
> ethics violation. It involved using student time on the computers to run
> a business or something like that.

As much as I would like to say he was expelled, he wasn't. He is
officially carried on Harvard's records as on leave of absence in good
standing.

Of course, Harvard may just be hoping he will drop some money on it.


--
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
---------------
Bob Germer from Mount Holly, NJ - E-mail: [e-mail]
Proudly running OS/2 Warp 4.0 w/ FixPack 12
MR/2 Ice Registration Number 67
Aut Pax Aut Bellum
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---------------

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From: [e-mail]                              08-Nov-99 05:31:06
  To: All                                               08-Nov-99 03:40:17
Subj: Re: True Type Fonts in Warp 4?  HOW???

From: James Moe <[e-mail]>


"Christopher E. Souter" wrote:
>
> Hi, everybody!
>
> I recently upgraded from Warp 3 to Warp 4.
>
> One reason why I did this is because I understood that,
> among other things, Warp 4 is supposed to support True
> Type fonts.
>
> However, I have searched all the online documentation
> and I just can't find any reference to True Type fonts
> anywhere.
>
> So, how do you install them?  Is it through the Font
> Palette?
    Yes.

> Where do you find the True Type Fonts in a
> standard Warp 4 system?  How do you get the Font
> Palette to recognise them?
>
    Wherever they are stored. The first place to look is in
x:\OS2\MDOS\WINOS2\SYSTEM. Windows dumps averything there. In the future
copy the font files to someplace of your own choosing, say, \TRUETYPE.
    Open the Font Pallette, select Edit Font...->Add... . Type in the
path to the fonts.


--

sma at rtd dot com
Remove ".spam-not" for email

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From: [e-mail]                                   08-Nov-99 05:44:11
  To: All                                               08-Nov-99 03:40:17
Subj: Re: Win-OS/2 Print Manager Starts Automatically with Win-OS/2 - WHY?

From: Meinolf Sondermann <[e-mail]>


"Christopher E. Souter" wrote:
>
> Hi,everyone!
>
> Does anyone know why Print Manager starts automatically
> when Win-OS/2 starts up?
>

[....]

> Can anyone tell me what is causing it to start up every
> time Win-OS/2 starts,

No

> and how I can stop it?
>

Yes:
Add these two lines to the BOOT section of SYSTEM.INI

WAVDMAPPS=
MAVDMAPPS=

One of the both is already there, but I don't remember which.

[...]

> Thanks in advance

You're welcome

> Chris Souter
> (Australia)
> [e-mail]


Bye/2
Meinolf

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From: [e-mail]                          08-Nov-99 14:21:28
  To: All                                               08-Nov-99 03:40:17
Subj: Re: Win-OS/2 Print Manager Starts Automatically with Win-OS/2 - WHY?

From: "Wayne Bickell" <[e-mail]>

Here's something I saved from a previous thread of the same nature.
I've even left in the credit to the original poster :-)

:>in your \winos2\system.ini, add the line

:>MAVDMAPPS=

:>to the [Boot] section.  Print Manager will no longer open when you start
:<Win-OS/2.


:>Bill Pridgen
:>[e-mail]

:>Using OS/2 and PMINews

Cheers

Wayne



On Mon, 08 Nov 1999 14:02:46 +1000, Christopher E. Souter wrote:

:>Hi,everyone!
:>
:>Does anyone know why Print Manager starts automatically
:>when Win-OS/2 starts up?
:>
:>I have looked in all the usual places, such as the
:>StartUp group, the "load= " line in the WIN.INI file,
:>the SYSTEM.INI file, the PROGMAN.INI and the
:>CONTROL.INI files.
:>
:>Print Manager is *NOT* in my StartUp group, and there
:>is *DEFINITELY* no reference to it in any of the
:>above-mentioned files.
:>
:>Can anyone tell me what is causing it to start up every
:>time Win-OS/2 starts, and how I can stop it?
:>
:>I am using a Windows printer driver which does not use
:>Print Manager, and I want to avoid conflicts.
:>
:>I am using OS/2 Warp 4 (FullPack), with FixPak 9, but
:>this problem has existed since I installed Warp , i.e.,
:>before any FixPaks were applied.
:>
:>Thanks in advance
:>Chris Souter
:>(Australia)
:>[e-mail]
:>
:>
:>

******************************************************
Wayne Bickell
Tokyo, Japan
[e-mail]
******************************************************
           Posted with PMINews 2 for OS/2
  Running on OS/2 Warp 4 (UK)  + FixPak 9
******************************************************



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From: [e-mail]...               07-Nov-99 22:48:04
  To: All                                               08-Nov-99 03:40:17
Subj: OS/2, InJoy, and ISDN

Message sender: [e-mail]

From: "Jeff Roesner" <[e-mail]>

Is there anything special I will need to use InJoy with an ISDN
adapter?  I can't seem to find anything that says so on the InJoy site.

Thank you.

j e f f  d .  r o e s n e r  ||  ICQ 36626514

[e-mail]  ||  http://stone.kconline.com

"...he's like a detuned radio..."


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From: [e-mail]                                   08-Nov-99 08:32:12
  To: All                                               08-Nov-99 03:40:17
Subj: Unattended Shutdown

From: Sergey Antipov <[e-mail]>

Hello everybody!
Please help me to find an utility to shutdown OS/2 Warp 3 in unattended
mode, i.e. from batch file, with no one pressing "Yes" button during
shutdown. The task is to shut down OS/2 server from UPS. PowerShute for
OS/2 does not works.
Please e-mail to [e-mail]
Thanks in advance,
Sergey Antipov

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From: [e-mail]                                 08-Nov-99 04:07:29
  To: All                                               08-Nov-99 03:40:17
Subj: CD-ROM not showing up

From: [e-mail] (M.D. Madden)

I am running Warp 3, CD-ROM edition and it installs just fine. However
after I reboot into the real session there is no CD-ROM drives
recognized. Now I applied FIXPAC 42 by copying the FIXPAC to a
partition and installed it from there. However, there were still no
CD-ROM drives recognized. According to IBM's device driver site if the
drive is supported then it will be there. Does anyone know to install
CD-ROM drivers?? I have a Creative Labs CD-RW, and a Toshiba DVD rom
drive. Both IDE.
Thanks for any help

Michael

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From: [e-mail]                             08-Nov-99 06:29:17
  To: All                                               08-Nov-99 03:40:17
Subj: Re: Unattended Shutdown

From: [e-mail] (Dominique Pivard)

The Extended Shutdown facility included in XFolder will do this.

It's free and you can find it in
http://www2.hu-berlin.de/~h0444vnd/xfldr.htm

HTH, Dominique

On Mon, 8 Nov 1999 05:32:25, Sergey Antipov <[e-mail]> wrote:

> Hello everybody!
> Please help me to find an utility to shutdown OS/2 Warp 3 in unattended
> mode, i.e. from batch file, with no one pressing "Yes" button during
> shutdown. The task is to shut down OS/2 server from UPS. PowerShute for
> OS/2 does not works.


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From: [e-mail]                             08-Nov-99 19:39:25
  To: All                                               08-Nov-99 05:18:18
Subj: Re: Win-OS/2 Print Manager Starts Automatically with Win-OS/2 - WHY?

From: "Christopher E. Souter" <[e-mail]>

Hi, everyone!

Thank you for the information!

It worked, and all is now OK!

Thank you for such quick replies!

Best regards
Chris Souter
(Australia)
[e-mail]


Wayne Bickell wrote:
>
> Here's something I saved from a previous thread of the same nature.
> I've even left in the credit to the original poster :-)
>
> :>in your \winos2\system.ini, add the line
>
> :>MAVDMAPPS=
>
> :>to the [Boot] section.  Print Manager will no longer open when you start
> :<Win-OS/2.
>
> :>Bill Pridgen
> :>[e-mail]
>
> :>Using OS/2 and PMINews
>
> Cheers
>
> Wayne
>
> On Mon, 08 Nov 1999 14:02:46 +1000, Christopher E. Souter wrote:
>
> :>Hi,everyone!
> :>
> :>Does anyone know why Print Manager starts automatically
> :>when Win-OS/2 starts up?
> :>
> :>I have looked in all the usual places, such as the
> :>StartUp group, the "load= " line in the WIN.INI file,
> :>the SYSTEM.INI file, the PROGMAN.INI and the
> :>CONTROL.INI files.
> :>
> :>Print Manager is *NOT* in my StartUp group, and there
> :>is *DEFINITELY* no reference to it in any of the
> :>above-mentioned files.
> :>
> :>Can anyone tell me what is causing it to start up every
> :>time Win-OS/2 starts, and how I can stop it?
> :>
> :>I am using a Windows printer driver which does not use
> :>Print Manager, and I want to avoid conflicts.
> :>
> :>I am using OS/2 Warp 4 (FullPack), with FixPak 9, but
> :>this problem has existed since I installed Warp , i.e.,
> :>before any FixPaks were applied.
> :>
> :>Thanks in advance
> :>Chris Souter
> :>(Australia)
> :>[e-mail]
> :>
> :>
> :>
>
> ******************************************************
> Wayne Bickell
> Tokyo, Japan
> [e-mail]
> ******************************************************
>            Posted with PMINews 2 for OS/2
>   Running on OS/2 Warp 4 (UK)  + FixPak 9
> ******************************************************

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From: [e-mail]                             08-Nov-99 19:41:17
  To: All                                               08-Nov-99 05:18:18
Subj: Re: True Type Fonts in Warp 4?  HOW???

From: "Christopher E. Souter" <[e-mail]>

Hi, everyone!

Thank you for such quick replies!

Your help is greatly appreciated!

Best regards
Chris Souter
(Australia)
[e-mail]


Shane Baker wrote:
>
> On Mon, 08 Nov 1999 14:19:39 +1000, Christopher E. Souter wrote:
>
> >I recently upgraded from Warp 3 to Warp 4.
> >
> >One reason why I did this is because I understood that,
> >among other things, Warp 4 is supposed to support True
> >Type fonts.
> >
> >However, I have searched all the online documentation
> >and I just can't find any reference to True Type fonts
> >anywhere.
> >
> >So, how do you install them?  Is it through the Font
> >Palette?  Where do you find the True Type Fonts in a
> >standard Warp 4 system?  How do you get the Font
> >Palette to recognise them?
>
> Font Pallette -> Edit Font -> Add  ..... and then select the fonts from the
> source.
>
> Regards
>
> Shane Baker
> Canberra - Australia's national capital
> _____________________________
> sbakerATpcug.org.au - please make the obvious change when replying
> Australian Pets newsgroup - aus.pets  <<>>  Australian Dogs Page -
http://www.pcug.org.au/~sbaker/dogs.htm

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From: [e-mail]                                  08-Nov-99 08:10:24
  To: All                                               08-Nov-99 05:18:18
Subj: Re: OS/2, InJoy, and ISDN

From: [e-mail] (Stan Goodman)

On Mon, 8 Nov 1999 03:48:08, "Jeff Roesner"
<[e-mail]> wrote:

> Is there anything special I will need to use InJoy with an ISDN
> adapter?  I can't seem to find anything that says so on the InJoy site.

Because there is nothing. I am happily using InJoy with an (external) ISDN
adapter, with nothing else. That's one of the many joys of external TAs and
modems. What would be needed with an internal TA  card, I would not know.

-------------
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Qiryat Tiv'on
Israel

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From: [e-mail]                                     07-Nov-99 23:11:09
  To: All                                               08-Nov-99 05:18:18
Subj: My thoughts on MicroSoft, etc.

From: [e-mail]

I know that it is popular to bash MicroSoft and Bill Gates.

I personally do not care for his products. And I hate the fact that is so
difficult to come up with support for new products on OS/2.

But, can all the blame really go to BG and MS???

The computer industry has been booming since the introduction of Windows.
Why? It is certainly not because Windows of any
flavor is a high quality product.

But if you think about it, why would ANY equipment manufacturer support an
OS that is efficient and doesn't require constant upgrades of hardware in
order to run properly?

While many of the OEMs complain about MS policies now, I find it hard to
believe that they didn't see the benefit in it for themselves.

The "Windows" OS of any flavor will constantly require better hard ware
just to make it operate at all.

My only hope is that the DOJ will force MS to provide API calls to all OS
competitors so that equipment manufacturers can provide drivers to
everyone without much additional cost...

An end to proprietary equipment and software would make things right.


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From: [e-mail]                                  08-Nov-99 09:38:18
  To: All                                               08-Nov-99 10:31:26
Subj: Re: Warp's MPTS Config with NT4 Peer

From: [e-mail] (Mark Mellin)

On Mon, 8 Nov 1999 01:28:42, [e-mail] (Lorne Sunley) wrote:

> > Do I need NetBios on the RTL NIC, for NT,
>
> Yes, if you have NT using NETBIOS/NETBEUI rather
> than NETBIOS/TCPIP (which is NT's default)

Is one prefered over the other ?


> >    perhaps just for other Peer OS2 machines ?
>
> The other Peer OS/2 machines will use it if they
> are configured with OS/2 NETBIOS

Is NetBIOS more stable or faster ?


> > Can/should there be a domain name for a peer
> >    gateway ?
>
> There are actually two "domain" names involved
> one is for the TCP/IP internet access which is
> your ISP's domain name. The other "WARPNET"
> is for the file sharing NETBIOS domain.
>
> The two "domains" are totally separate.

I think they are, OS/2's install/config/access
methodology makes the "domain" name a bit confusing.


> > Why am I setting up a network in my home ??
> It's a good way to develop a craving for TWO cold beers

> > Where can I find a BIG cold beer
> In the 'fridge second shelf down, on the right.....

Yea - well I just went and checked - it's all gone
musta finished it all off while I was installing
peer and hacking up my config.sys !!


> On the NT machine what protocols do you
> have "installed", "turned on" or whatever they
> call it in the "Network" icon? You need TCP/IP
> which you must have or you could not set up
> the parameters.

TCPIP and NetBEUI.


> For "file and print sharing" you do not need the
> NETBIOS over TCP/IP you could just
> use NETBEUI which is faster on a small LAN
> and is less likely to lead to inadvertant sharing
> of stuff that may be visible to the entire internet.

I didn't even see NetBios over TCPIP as an installable
option under WinNT's network protocals


> Questions to you....
>
> Can you PING the NT machines IP address
> from the gateway machine?

Yep - but I couldn't when I sent this post !!!

> Can you PING the gateway machine from the
> NT machine?

Aye Capt...


> Do you have some sort of NAT gateway software
> installed like Injoys Gateway http://www.fx.dk ?

Right on the money, I bought IJFire about a month ago.


Well, everything is up and running, geez - I cant belive
it's finished - no can I understand why it was so
difficult.

First it was the NetBIOS/BEUI stuffs. NT could see Warp's
shares, but Warp couldn't see NT's.  Flipped a bit in NT's
registry (lmannounce).

Then found that MPTN screws up IBMLAN.INI, forgetting my
second adapter configs "net1=NETBEUI$,0,LM10,100,150,14",
which has to be manually entered in, as did both the
"wrknets = NET1,NET2" and "srvnets = NET1,NET2".

Reinstalled the InJoyFirewall/Gateway - forgetting that
I'd been playing with the filters - so even though
everything was working fine I couldn't get ping a
DNS resolveable IP...

All in all - one heck of Sunday !! - I've learned much
more than I intended !!

These newsgroups kill me - when I think of the money we/I
spend on tech-support (who aren't in on Sunday), which just
buys us their "ball's-back-in-your-court" attitude, as they
ineptly provide inaccurate, information with a non-cholant
approach to solving a problem... then I poke around Deja,
or just drop a post to comp.os...  Anyhoo...

Much thanks again for the speedy response, it pointed me
in the right direction, confirming, and correcting my
understanding (or mis-understandings !!).

Mark Mellin


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From: [e-mail]                              08-Nov-99 05:12:28
  To: All                                               08-Nov-99 10:31:26
Subj: Problem with hobbes?

From: Michael W. Cocke <[e-mail]>

Is something going on with hobbes.nmsu.edu?  Since Friday afternoon, I
haven't been able to connect using netscape.  I can ping it and tracerte
it - no problems, but I can't get a connect with netscape.  Very
puzzling...

Any ideas?



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From: [e-mail]                                  08-Nov-99 12:20:28
  To: All                                               08-Nov-99 10:31:26
Subj: Re: Problem with hobbes?

From: [e-mail] (Stan Goodman)

On Mon, 8 Nov 1999 10:12:57, Michael W. Cocke <[e-mail]> wrote:

>
> Is something going on with hobbes.nmsu.edu?  Since Friday afternoon, I
> haven't been able to connect using netscape.  I can ping it and tracerte
> it - no problems, but I can't get a connect with netscape.  Very
> puzzling...
>
> Any ideas?

It isn't the first time that Hobbes has been inaccessible.

I tried last night to get to the site; when it became clear that the
failure was not a momentary thing, I gave up and went to one of the many
mirror sites (actually LEO). There is a through list of Hobbes mirrors at:

http://www.nfwa.com/os2/downloads.html#HobbesMirrors

-------------
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Qiryat Tiv'on
Israel

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From: [e-mail]                                    08-Nov-99 06:54:16
  To: All                                               08-Nov-99 10:31:26
Subj: Re: OS/2, InJoy, and ISDN

From: [e-mail] (Dan Casey)

In article <[e-mail]>,
"Jeff Roesner" <[e-mail]> wrote:
>Is there anything special I will need to use InJoy with an ISDN
>adapter?  I can't seem to find anything that says so on the InJoy site.
>
>Thank you.

I'll assume you are referring to an External ISDN adapter. If so, the
only things you'll need to consider are the I/O port speed
capabilities and the serial driver.

I'm using Injoy with an External 3Com Impact IQ ISDN Terminal Adapter
(TA). The I/O ports on my system support 115K data transfer speeds,
which is slower than the 128K possible with Multilink PPP (Bundling
both "B" channels).

I bought a Byterunner high speed I/O card (if memory serves me, I paid
about #39.00 US for it) that has the new 16650 UARTs on it for speeds
up to 430k. I then installed Ray Gwinn's SIO2K (beta) Serial Drivers
because they support the 16650 UART.

Everything  works very nicely together, the Byterunner card installs
easily, and has jumpers to set port and IRQ. You can buy it directly
from Byterunner (http://www.byterunner.com/).

The SIO2K driver (Version 2 of Ray's handy SIO.SYS) can be found on
his own website at http://www.gwinn.com/. Install with the defaults
and it's very simple.

The External TA will respond to AT commands, so you can set it up via
any Terminal application (the 3Com TA includes a DOS setup utility
that runs fine from a DOS session in OS/2).


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From: christian.hennecke@ruhr-uni-boch...               08-Nov-99 13:23:07
  To: All                                               08-Nov-99 10:31:26
Subj: Re: Problem with hobbes?

Message sender: [e-mail]

From: Christian Hennecke <[e-mail]>

"Michael W. Cocke" schrieb:
>
> Is something going on with hobbes.nmsu.edu?  Since Friday afternoon, I
> haven't been able to connect using netscape.  I can ping it and tracerte
> it - no problems, but I can't get a connect with netscape.  Very
> puzzling...

The same here. I don't know what could be the problem, maybe its http
server is crashed?

Christian Hennecke
--
Keep passing the open windows! ("The Hotel New Hampshire", John Irving)

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From: [e-mail]                 08-Nov-99 12:56:07
  To: All                                               08-Nov-99 10:31:26
Subj: Re: Ensoniq 1373 Driver for Warp?

From: [e-mail]


[e-mail] wrote:

> I've found an OS/2 driver for the Ensoniq 1371 sound system, but my pc
> has Ensoniq 1373.  OS/2 refuses to recognize the 1371 driver.

Damn ! There goes the next thing I am gonna try.

> Does anyone know where one can get an OS/2 Ensoniq 1373 driver, or what
> other driver, especially one supported by Warp 4, is compatible with
> the card.  I've tried installing several of the Sound Blaster drivers
> without success.

Same here. It seems only the SB16D2.sys gives some feedback: 'error
encountered when resetting soundblaster 16'. Do you have the same message ?

I'm trying to run a Creative SoundBlaster 16 PCI 'CT4740', chipset ES1373.
I bet you have the same card. Bought the bugger last weekend.
I am sure somebody in an os/2 newsgroup was saying this runs OK with Warp,
otherwise I would not have shortlisted it. (AND there is nothing on the
Creative website on the SB16-PCI).
So the thing will work, one day (gnashing of teeth).

I'll be back with more news,

Wim Wauters.

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From: [e-mail]                           08-Nov-99 19:23:29
  To: All                                               08-Nov-99 20:06:28
Subj: Re: Netscape cache messing up

From: [e-mail] (Magnus Olsson)

On Fri, 5 Nov 1999 08:32:04, andy <[e-mail]> wrote:

> > I'll take the opportunity to thank you and the IBM team for
> > communicator 4.61. I'm not completely happy with it (drag and drop
> > still works better with 2.02, which is also more stable), but it's a
> > big leap forward from 4.04 and caching works *much* better than in
> > 2.02!:-)
>
> The only stability problem I've got (up to now) is that the messenger
crashes every
> first time I start it
I've got something that may be related. Some ten times i've had the
messenger crash when selecting a warpcast message *right after*
retrieving new messages. If i restart messenger and select an unread
warpcast message it crashes again, and again, but if i select an
already read message, i can thereafter read all messages without any
crashing.

BTW: I think the fact that it's always been warpcast messages is only
coincidence, if there is such a thing:-)

When talking about problems with communicator, the thing i find most
annoying is that downloads quietly finish before they are *really*
finished.

>
> greetings
>                 Andreas
>

-
all the best
    Magnus Olsson

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From: [e-mail]                                 08-Nov-99 20:42:19
  To: All                                               08-Nov-99 20:06:28
Subj: Re: ADSL connection in Victoria

From: [e-mail]

In <yHQxxE9f8dqd-pn2-lWobZCIkYJZK@POBLANO>, [e-mail] (Stan Goodman)
writes:
>On Mon, 8 Nov 1999 13:17:54, [e-mail] wrote:
>
>> In <[e-mail]>, "andrew g"
<[e-mail]> writes:
>> >On Mon, 25 Oct 1999 12:21:40 -0700 (PDT), Frank Rusko wrote:
>> >
>> >>Does anyone in Victoria have experience in setting up ADSL and
>> >>who lives in the Victoria B.C. area.
>>
>> ASDL or 1-Meg or the 2-Meg Modems.  The three are quite different services.

>> >
>> >Is this the Bell Sympatico High Speed Edition stuff?
>> >
>> >If it is, and if you get it running under OS/2, will you please post a
>> >detailed journal of how you did it?
>>
>> Did you have any Ethernet cards in your computer, when you installed OS/2?
>>
>> If not, install one or even two Ethernet cards, with proper addresses, and
IRQ.
>> Then reinstall OS/2 will get you about 5 more folders, icons, and sub
folders.
>>  MPTS, TCP/IP, TCP/IP Utilities, TCP/IP Configuration LAN, TCP/IP Internet
>>  LAN, DDNS, DHCP, DHCP Monitor, etc in either the Program, and in the Setup
>> folders.
>
>Could you please rewrite the above paragraph, especially the second
>sentence. Why did you have to reinstall OS/2 (if that's what you said)?
>
>It might even help if you rewrote the paragraph below too, in actual
>sentences.
>

jayzus, my English teacher was more polite than that . . . and I understood
the post completely. Perhaps it would be more effective for you to return to
"Making an Effort to Understand Other Helpful People 1A."

He said to reinstall OS/2 IF YOU DID NOT HAVE AN ETHERNET CARD when you
originally installed. (Shouting often works with foreigners.) For many people
it is possibly easier to let the OS/2 install program find the card and
configure
the installation correctly. Others with more experience must have different
methods but at Base Level, a new install is pretty well guaranteed to work.

There, an actual sentence with subjects, predicates, conjunctions, subordinate
prepositional phrases, and a few adjectives for colour. Do you need them
diagrammed ?

the man was trying to help, by gum, and the info was useful. jeez . . .

>-------------
>Stan Goodman
>Qiryat Tiv'on
>Israel
>

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From: [e-mail]                                 08-Nov-99 21:14:12
  To: All                                               08-Nov-99 20:06:28
Subj: Re: CD-ROM not showing up

From: [e-mail]

In <qpkdVVNoMoTk-pn2-X6DR66IxwGhy@tcpserver>, [e-mail] (Lorne
Sunley) writes:
>On Mon, 8 Nov 1999 04:07:59, [e-mail] (M.D. Madden) wrote:
>
>> I am running Warp 3, CD-ROM edition and it installs just fine. However
>> after I reboot into the real session there is no CD-ROM drives
>> recognized.
>
>Check the config.sys file contents. The config.sys file should have
>
>basedev=ibm1s506.add
>basedev=ibmidecd.flt
>basedev=ibmatapi.flt
>device=c:\os2\boot\os2cdrom.dmd /Q
>ifs=c:\os2\boot\cdifs.ifs /Q
>device=c:\os2\mdos\vcdrom.sys
>
>in it to support CD-ROM devices. The ibm1s506.add will probably be
>there as it is required for IDE hard drives.
>
>Make sure any CDROM drives that are all by
>themselves on an IDE port are set as MASTER.
>
>Lorne Sunley
>

Lorne, you are a blessing, a BIG blessing ! If you ever come to San Francisco,

I'll send you a beer or cheeseburger or whatever . . . my CD-ROM kept
disappearing, some rotten config.sys-modifying program must have been
removing the atapi.flt line . . . ah, the pleasures of a CD again. Thank you
much ! oddly, the cd-rom would disappear on all the systems installed . . .
but adding the atapi filter restored it to NT and Beos as well . . . don't
ask.
If it tries to read certain cd's it traps and crashes os/2, as well . .  maybe
a
new cd drive would be a good idea ? Sony, are they bad ?

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From: [e-mail]                                    08-Nov-99 21:33:15
  To: All                                               08-Nov-99 20:06:28
Subj: Re: Can OS/2 users grow up and think like Linux users?

From: [e-mail] (Pierre Jelenc)

Raphael Tennenbaum <raphaelt @ worldnet.att.net> writes:
>
> To be honest, I can't tell you, since I heard so many horror
> stories I never bothered with either.  My basic feeling is
> that there's freeware or reasonably-priced shareware to do
> everything (or practically everything) that OD does.  To
> start with, have a look at Xfolder
>
>    ftp://hobbes.nmsu.edu/pub/os2/util/wps/xfld085.zip

Since I installed XFolder, I can't copy objects, it tells me that an
object of the same name exists already no matter what the new name I give
it.

Pierre
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From: [e-mail]                                    08-Nov-99 21:43:26
  To: All                                               08-Nov-99 20:06:28
Subj: Re: CD-RW for OS2

From: [e-mail] (Pierre Jelenc)

Jerry McBride <[e-mail]> writes:
>
> Right off the bat... the 6416 runs just fine under all versions of OS/2 with
> the exception of... there have been posts to the effect that the 6416 is not
> able to cda with certain software...  Why? I have no idea as I don't own
one.

That was me. It works fine with cdda2wav from the cdrecord package, but
that seems to be the only one.

There seems to be a bug in cdda2wav, but it's minor. If you try to rip a
number of tracks, say 2-5, and track 5 is longer than track 4, then track
5 will be truncated to the length of track 4. There is no problem in
single-track ripping.

Pierre
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                               |  Pawnshop's "Three Brass Balls" is out!
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From: [e-mail]                         08-Nov-99 21:10:18
  To: All                                               08-Nov-99 20:06:28
Subj: Re: Warp Server not able to get available memory

From: [e-mail]

Thanks to all for the posts and the EXCELLENT education and pointers.

IBM DB2 Support confirmed what all were saying about DB2 attempting to
allocate large memory for bufferpools; that is:

1. OS/2 has an address space limit of 512 MB.  Shared and system
resources use a significant chunk of this, leaving (very) roughly 200-
300 MB of virtual memory available to programs.

2. The Warp Server SMP Upgrade allows programs to circumvent this by
allocating in the 'High Memory Area' (HMA) between 512 MB and 2 GB (or
VIRTUALADDRESSLIMIT).  DB2 will take advantage of this, when present.

Our problem was that, although we had Warp Server, we didn't have the
correct edition / upgrade to support the HMA.  Given current licenses &
installation, we've decided to recommend sticking to no more than 200
MB of bufferpool + heap allocation when running under OS/2 Warp
(this'll work under Warp workstation as well).  Other DB2 servers
wanting to use more memory will have different OSes, anyway.

Thanks again to all,
Derek Williams

In article <[e-mail]>,
  Hannes Hromadka <[e-mail]> wrote:
>
>
> [e-mail] wrote:
>
> > I suppose I should ask: Has anyone been able to allocate and use
> > bufferpools larger than 220 MB (>55,000 pages) under OS/2 Warp?
>
> Good question: The answer is YES.
>
> It was not me, but some people at my job had to write real big
programs. Big
> means loading a huge module into a simulation environement.
>
> The limit was around 300MByte. In OS/2 2.11 it was about 320 to 350MB
they
> could aquire. In Warp 3 sometimes the limit was below 200MByte. It
depends
> of the size of the buffer segments you use to allocate the memory.
>
> Someone told us, that the SMP Kernel of Warp Server has a higher
limit.
>
> But further investigation was stopped when the development was moved
to Win
> NT 8-(
>
> Somewhere in my office I have a small testproram and the results of
tests on
> OS/2 2.11 and Warp 3 with different fixpak levels. If I find it I can
do
> tests on Warp 4.5 and post the result.
>
> Some good information about available memory can be found in the
> documentation of theseus2. A real good package to monitor and analyze
RAM
> usage. The programs seems to be IBM only, but it found its way into
the
> internet. Search hobbes for it or LEO in Germany.
>
>                 Greetings from Vienna
>
>                         Hannes
>
>


Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.

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From: [e-mail]                             08-Nov-99 15:42:13
  To: All                                               08-Nov-99 20:06:28
Subj: Re: Warp Server not able to get available memory

From: "Scott E. Garfinkle" <[e-mail]>

On Mon, 08 Nov 1999 21:10:37 GMT, [e-mail] wrote:

>Our problem was that, although we had Warp Server, we didn't have the
>correct edition / upgrade to support the HMA.
You need to have Warp Server with SMP feature (which works whether or not
your system is SMP-capable) or Warp Server for e-Business (aka Aurora) to get
this feature. Glad you got it resolved, anyway.  BTW, with WSeB, you can also
get DB2 database files > 2gb.


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From: [e-mail]                          08-Nov-99 21:49:26
  To: All                                               08-Nov-99 20:06:28
Subj: Re: Problem with hobbes?

From: [e-mail] (Annie K.)

On Mon, 8 Nov 1999 10:12:57, Michael W. Cocke <[e-mail]>
wrote:

:Is something going on with hobbes.nmsu.edu?  Since Friday afternoon, I
:haven't been able to connect using netscape.  I can ping it and tracerte
:it - no problems, but I can't get a connect with netscape.

 I just now logged on. Was able to access Hobbes via FTP all weekend.

--
Klaatu barada nikto

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From: [e-mail]                                 08-Nov-99 22:15:04
  To: All                                               08-Nov-99 20:06:28
Subj: Re: CD-ROM not showing up

From: [e-mail] (M.D. Madden)

On Mon, 08 Nov 1999 04:36:24 GMT, [e-mail] (Lorne
Sunley) wrote:


>
>Make sure any CDROM drives that are all by
>themselves on an IDE port are set as MASTER.
>
>Lorne Sunley

Thanks alot for the info. wil try it.

Michael
>

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From: [e-mail]                    09-Nov-99 00:35:16
  To: All                                               08-Nov-99 21:19:01
Subj: CDRW

From: [e-mail] (John Hong)

    For anyone looking into buying a CDRW at a not too expensive
price, really ought to check out the Ricoh 7040 model.  It is a 4x write,
4x re-write, 20x read CDRW.  Thing is, and this is the best part, from
what I have been reading (someone in a Linux newsgroup posted this) that
Ricoh has a firmware update for the 7040 line that actually makes it into
a 6x write, 4x re-write, and I think 24x read.

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From: [e-mail]                 08-Nov-99 19:58:13
  To: All                                               09-Nov-99 03:31:28
Subj: Re: Can OS/2 users grow up and think like Linux users?

From: [e-mail] (Raphael Tennenbaum)

[e-mail] (Pierre Jelenc) wrote:

>Raphael Tennenbaum <raphaelt @ worldnet.att.net> writes:
>>
>> To be honest, I can't tell you, since I heard so many horror
>> stories I never bothered with either.  My basic feeling is
>> that there's freeware or reasonably-priced shareware to do
>> everything (or practically everything) that OD does.  To
>> start with, have a look at Xfolder
>>
>>    ftp://hobbes.nmsu.edu/pub/os2/util/wps/xfld085.zip
>
>Since I installed XFolder, I can't copy objects, it tells me that an
>object of the same name exists already no matter what the new name I give
>it.
>
>Pierre
>--
>Pierre Jelenc                  | The Cucumbers' "Total Vegetility" is out!
>                               |  Pawnshop's "Three Brass Balls" is out!
>The New York City Beer Guide   |      RAW Kinder's "CD EP" is out!
>   http://www.nycbeer.org      | Home Office Records http://www.web-ho.com

Zounds!  Did you check out Ulrich's webpage at

   http://www2.rz.hu-berlin.de/~h0444vnd/os2.htm

?  I had a quick look and he mentions what sounds like a similar problem:

  Some people report that drag'n'drop or moving files isn't
  working any more. I suspect this is related to changes to
  the new "File exists" dialog. Disable that dialog in
  "Workplace Shell". If the problem does not go away, mail
  me if you've found something interesting, but other
  than that, I don't know what the problem is.

Let us know if his suggestion fixes it.

Btw, for those who were a little worried about the ongoing
status of Xfolder, there's cheering news -- he's working on
its successor, "XWorkplace."

PS: I *need* Three Brass Balls.  Any chance there's a sample MP3
anywhere?

--
Ray Tennenbaum        '99 YZF-R6
readme@ http://www.ray-field.com

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From: [e-mail]                      09-Nov-99 00:50:13
  To: All                                               09-Nov-99 03:31:28
Subj: Re: True Type Fonts in Warp 4? HOW???

From: [e-mail]       (John Thompson)

In <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Glen D)
writes:

>Might I also suggest FreeType/2 which is improved TrueType support for
>OS/2, and totally free (www.freetype.org).

And FreeType/2 even works with Warp v3!

-John ([e-mail])

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From: [e-mail]                                09-Nov-99 01:18:01
  To: All                                               09-Nov-99 03:31:28
Subj: RICO

From: [e-mail]  (Steve Myers)

Based on the rather substantial direct losses IBM suffered at the hands of
M$, I wonder if they shouldn't file a RICO lawsuit against them, based on
the findings of fact in the DOJ case.  The whole things sounds like what
RICO was intended to stop.

OTOH, M$ would almost certainly retaliate, which would probably make IBM
very careful.

-- Steve Myers

The E-mail addresses in this message are private property.  Any use of them
to  send  unsolicited  E-mail  messages  of  a  commerical  nature  will be
considered trespassing,  and the originator of the message will be  sued in
small claims court in Camden County,  New Jersey,  for the  maximum penalty
allowed by law.

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From: [e-mail]                             09-Nov-99 02:12:08
  To: All                                               09-Nov-99 03:31:28
Subj: Re: Netscape 4.61 where do you get the strong encryption version

From: [e-mail] (Shenzhou)

On Wed, 3 Nov 1999 13:57:19, [e-mail]
(Raphael Tennenbaum) wrote:

You can get the 128 bit encrypted version of Netscape 4.61 from
ftp.replay.com

This site has all versions of 128 bit encrypted browsers.


> I tried to "Fortify" my Netscape 4.61 (I had downloaded the
> version without encryption the first time around) and while
> the browser worked ok, my Comm newsreader kept blowing up,
> so I just uninstalled and then reinstalled the regular
> encryption version....  YMMV, fer sure.
>
> --
> Ray Tennenbaum        '99 YZF-R6
> readme@ http://www.ray-field.com


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From: [e-mail]                             08-Nov-99 19:45:01
  To: All                                               09-Nov-99 03:31:28
Subj: Re: Netscape Challenges

From: "John A. Morrow, Jr." <[e-mail]>

The repeated spam, are you retrieving the same messages from your mail server
over
and over? If so, try setting one of your email clients to strip the messages
from
the server. In Netscape, go to "Edit, Preferences, Mail & Newsgroups, Mail
Servers, Edit (highlight/select your server name), click on the POP tab, and
make
sure the "Leave messages on the server"  box is not checked.

John Twelker wrote:

> "David T. Johnson" wrote:
>
> > John Twelker wrote:
> > >
> > > Aloha from Maui,
> > >
> > > 1) Messenger quit working after I deleted a Profile Manager User.
> > > 2) Deleted spam keeps reappearing each time Netscape loaded. Deleted
> > > Trash spam keeps reappearing as well ... now over 160 copies of the spam
> > > reappear.
> > >
> > > Any ideas?  Thanks!
> >
> > I think I would make a backup of the files under the "users" directory
> > and then just do an uninstall and reinstall.  Is this v4.04 or 4.61?
>
> Thanks for the suggestion ... reinstall didn't help until I moved the users
> file out of the install directory ... then copied files back into the new
> directory ... then Mail worked fine.  However, that  didn't help the
inability
> to delete the spam.
>
> Ver4.61 ... and strangely enough, the Win98 version 4.7 is doing the same
> thing    ;-)
>
> I've started to learn Star Office and might just switch everything over to
> that.  It's a powerful program for sure, just takes a while to learn.
>
> Aloha,
>
> John Twelker
> Maui

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From: [e-mail]                                   08-Nov-99 22:39:12
  To: All                                               09-Nov-99 03:31:28
Subj: Re: OS/2 Printer

From: [e-mail] (Harry Travis)

In <[e-mail]>, on
11/07/99
   at 09:39 AM, "Terry Haimann" <[e-mail]> said:

>There must be an other option other then a discontinued Lexmark
>Printer!


>On Fri, 05 Nov 1999 20:48:39 -0500 (EST), Terry Haimann wrote:

>>I am in the market for a new printer and the Lexmark Optra 40 was
>>recommended.  I have checked our local Best Buy & CompUSA and they don't
>>carry that model.  What they do have are Lexmark Z series of printers and as

>>I have said before what I really need is a printer that will be freindly to
>>both os/2 and Linux.  Are one of these printers a renamed Optra Color 40?
It
>>needs to be a model that has its own memory and on board processor (NO Win
>>Printers) and I am also open to getting either a HP or an Epson if I can get
>>a driver that will work.
>>
>>Thx    Terry
>>
>>

Since the price dropped to $150-$220 from twice that, a number of OS/2
users have been very happy with the OPTRA 40. And it includes
MarkVision. Dropped? Yes, but the fully networkable versions (Oprtra 45
and 45N are still available for $700-1000.

For availability: buysurplus.com or ebay.com

As for drivers: Is PostScript robust enought for you?
--
-----------------------------------------------------------
[e-mail] (Harry Travis)
DemostiX
-----------------------------------------------------------

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From: [e-mail]                                 09-Nov-99 05:10:04
  To: All                                               09-Nov-99 03:31:29
Subj: Re: Can OS/2 users grow up and think like Linux users?

From: [e-mail]

In <[e-mail]>,
[e-mail] (Raphael Tennenbaum) writes:
>
>PS: I *need* Three Brass Balls.
>--

hmm, maybe there's a Brass Donkey store near you ?  Or there's
always Jesse Helms, but since they started serving Viagra at the
Cafeteria he may be using his . . . .


>Ray Tennenbaum        '99 YZF-R6
>readme@ http://www.ray-field.com


--
härad ængravvåd

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From: [e-mail]                            09-Nov-99 07:14:23
  To: All                                               09-Nov-99 05:19:24
Subj: Re: Courier I-Modem

From: "Kirby Hylton" <[e-mail]>

On Mon, 8 Nov 1999 12:28:51 -0500, Jeff D. Roesner wrote:

:>I've looked on the 3Com web site, and I can't seem to find a definitive
:>answer to whether or not the I-Modem supports v.90.  Yes, I know, it's an
:>ISDN adapter, but I would also like to be able to fall back on the good ole
:>v.90.

I haven't used my I-modem since I had a cable modem installed, but if I
remember correctly.... The I-modem supports v.90 in server mode.  You can get
v.90 connects when calling from the analog side.  You can also get 64k
v.90,x2, etc.  if the other end is set up properly.  Not many people will
believe you, though.  :-)

:>I saw references to x2, and the online manual mentions v.34 (28800, not
33600) in several places, but v.90 is noticeably absent.

No worry.  The I-modem supports v.90.  Callers to my BBS (the former
TeamOS/2-Denver BBS) liked downloading at x2 or v.90 speeds, and I liked
being one of the only ISDN BBSs in town.

Kirby Hylton
Kirby Hylton Consulting


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From: [e-mail]                                 09-Nov-99 07:29:25
  To: All                                               09-Nov-99 05:19:24
Subj: Re: Unattended Shutdown

From: "William R. Estrada II" <[e-mail]>

Sergey,

  Look on the Net for an IBM EWS package called 'APMT'.  With it
you can find the 'Yes' window and click it.

  If you can't find it, I have the URL at work.

             William Estrada.

Sergey Antipov wrote:
>
> Hello everybody!
> Please help me to find an utility to shutdown OS/2 Warp 3 in unattended
> mode, i.e. from batch file, with no one pressing "Yes" button during
> shutdown. The task is to shut down OS/2 server from UPS. PowerShute for
> OS/2 does not works.
> Please e-mail to [e-mail]
> Thanks in advance,
> Sergey Antipov

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From: [e-mail]                              09-Nov-99 08:31:16
  To: All                                               09-Nov-99 05:19:24
Subj: Curios about OS/2

From: "Jimmy Navarro" <[e-mail]>

I started using PCs from IBM PC/XT 8088 unto the latest micros with M$
Windows, Pick OS, SunOS and Linux, except OS/2.  Are there still OS/2
commercially currently available in the shelves?  Where can I get or buy
the latest OS/2 for desktop?

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From: [e-mail]                                08-Nov-99 10:37:20
  To: All                                               09-Nov-99 05:19:24
Subj: Re: Bootos2 options

From: Kenneth Kahn <[e-mail]>

Doug Darrow wrote:

> Hmmm. But if said user has such trouble reading and understanding plain
> text, english language instructions how do you (or BOOTOS2, anyway)
> intend to read and understand HIS thoughts?

That's the easy part; you just require a universal translator.  You can
pick one up
in any Ferderation store.

Ken Kahn - IBM P/390 Software Development (and BOOTOS2 Author)
Internet : [e-mail]
   Lotus : Kenneth Kahn/Poughkeepsie/IBM@IBMUS
      VM : kenkahn@ibmusm10


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From: [e-mail]                                 09-Nov-99 04:17:05
  To: All                                               09-Nov-99 10:58:09
Subj: Re: Curios about OS/2

From: [e-mail] (Richard Steiner)

Here in comp.os.os2.misc, "Jimmy Navarro" <[e-mail]>
spake unto us, saying:

>I started using PCs from IBM PC/XT 8088 unto the latest micros with M$
>Windows, Pick OS, SunOS and Linux, except OS/2.  Are there still OS/2
>commercially currently available in the shelves?

Shelves?  Who uses those now that there's a net?  :-)

Software sources for OS/2 include (but are not limited to):

The Hobbes OS/2 archive (shareware and freeware)

  http://hobbes.nmsu.edu

BMT Micro (shareware download and registration service)

  http://www.bmtmicro.com

Indelible Blue (retail stuff)

  http://www.indelibleblue.com

For what it's worth, a CD-ROM containing the StarOffice office suite
for OS/2, Windows, Linux, and Solaris is available from Sun for a
nominal fee.  Large and slowish, but good software for the price.

  http://www.sun.com/products/staroffice/index.html

>Where can I get or buy the latest OS/2 for desktop?

Indelible Blue sells it.  You can also grab copies for less money on
eBay and other similar auction sites.

--
   -Rich Steiner  >>>--->  [e-mail]  >>>---> Bloomington, MN
     OS/2 + BeOS + Linux + Solaris + Win95 + WinNT4 + FreeBSD + DOS
      + VMWare + Fusion + vMac + Executor = PC Hobbyist Heaven! :-)
           I'm not a tagline, but I play one on TV...

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From: [e-mail]                               09-Nov-99 05:07:03
  To: All                                               09-Nov-99 10:58:09
Subj: new stuff

From: "dinkmeister" <[e-mail]>

hi everyone!

over the past few years, i've written many small utilities to make things
a whole lot easier.  recently i've decided to document and release all of
these invaluable programs as freeware!  check out the link 'neatutils'
on my web page: http://dink.org - there's probably something for everyone
here..

i've also fixed the bad link to my crazy techno song (.mp3) =)
.. and, i've written a list of my all-time favorite sci-fi movies.

thats right folks, lately i've had a lot of time on my hands! =)

soon i'll document the recipe for my fameous burrito for when you
get the 3am munchies.. =)




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From: [e-mail]                              08-Nov-99 17:22:07
  To: All                                               09-Nov-99 10:58:09
Subj: Re: Win-OS/2 Print Manager Starts Automatically with Win-OS/2 - WHY?

From: "J. R. Fox" <[e-mail]>

James Arnold wrote:

> To stop the Win-OS/2 Print Manager forever add the following >to the
"[boot]" section of system.ini:
>
>         MAVDMAPPS=
>
>Once that is done you won't be bothered by Print Manager >again.


There was another such fix-line floating around

          WAVDMAPPS=

Do you happen to recall what that was for ?

<jf>

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From: [e-mail]                           08-Nov-99 23:34:18
  To: All                                               09-Nov-99 10:58:09
Subj: Re: Athlon, ASUS K7M Motherboard, and OS/2

From: Robert Dohrenburg <[e-mail]>

"David T. Johnson" wrote:
>
> Robert Dohrenburg wrote:
> >
> >
> > I had the impression that ASUS chicken out of the Athlon MB Market?
> >
> > I havent seen any Athlon based ASUS MBs, where did you get yours?
> >
>
> ASUS does not sell their K7M motherboard with their name on the box.
> The motherboard comes in a plain white box.  ASUS puts their name on the
> manual inside and on the CD-ROM but nowhere else.  They also do not
> provide any information on the K7M motherboard on their website but
> there are BIOS updates on FTP.  Could fear of Intel retaliation for
> Athlon support be the reason for this odd behavior?  Coincidentally?,
> most of the other Athlon motherboard manufacturers, except for FIC, do
> the same thing.  I purchased the K7M here:
>
> http://www.computerstop.com/
>
> They have a picture of the K7M on their website that has the ASUS name
> on the box.  But that is not what I bought.  Maybe ASUS is changing and
> my box is a collector's item!
>
> Here's some general information about the different Athlon motherboards
> that are available and upcoming:
>
> http://www.slota.com/motherboards/


Thanks,

I usually buy MBs at TCComputers and they only show the FIC Athlon MB.
Thanks a lot for the store tip.

Robert,

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From: [e-mail]                           08-Nov-99 23:39:14
  To: All                                               09-Nov-99 10:58:09
Subj: Re: Courier I-Modem

From: Robert Dohrenburg <[e-mail]>

"Jeff D. Roesner" wrote:
>
> I've looked on the 3Com web site, and I can't seem to find a definitive
> answer to whether or not the I-Modem supports v.90.  Yes, I know, it's an
> ISDN adapter, but I would also like to be able to fall back on the good ole
> v.90.
>
> I saw references to x2, and the online manual mentions v.34 (28800, not
> 33600) in several places, but v.90 is noticeably absent.
>
> TIA

We have two I-Modems in my office and both have the v.90 protocol. I
remember that I upgraded one of them to v.90 and the last one that we
bought came with the upgrade.


Robert,

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From: [e-mail]                               09-Nov-99 13:16:23
  To: All                                               09-Nov-99 13:50:28
Subj: Unwanted "Open as" entry - and removeal thereof

From: [e-mail] (Richard A Crane)

Somehow I have managed to create a entry in my "open as"
field for all my "plain text" files.

This entry reads DUTCHLAW (yep I did this when trying to
associate a file called that with e.exe - got it backwards
somehow it seems!) and will not allow me to delete it from
the "Properties>Menu Action on Menu Box (where both the
"Delete" and "Properties" remain stubbornly greyed out.

Using Unimaint on the INI files doesn't show anything that
to me looks like it relates to this - yet I recall that
unimaint gets rid of those extra "new folder" entries in the
"create" bit of some menus. Can some WPS guru tell me where
to look for the offending entry (would  it be in the SYSINI
file or the other INI file - or is it somewhere else?) - and
how to get rid of it?

Thanks

Richard A Crane
Barrister & Solicitor
slightly altered email (anti-spamming) rcrane AT
octa4.net.au
OR rcrane AT attglobal.net

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From: [e-mail]                                  09-Nov-99 13:26:05
  To: All                                               09-Nov-99 13:50:28
Subj: Re: Curios about OS/2

From: [e-mail] (Stan Goodman)

I think the query was about where he can get the OS itself. The easiest way
to do that would be to order from Indelible Blue, which would get him (if I
am not mistaken) also the lastest fixpack too":

http://www.indelible-blue.com

On Tue, 9 Nov 1999 10:17:11, [e-mail] (Richard Steiner) wrote:

> Here in comp.os.os2.misc, "Jimmy Navarro" <[e-mail]>
> spake unto us, saying:
>
> >I started using PCs from IBM PC/XT 8088 unto the latest micros with M$
> >Windows, Pick OS, SunOS and Linux, except OS/2.  Are there still OS/2
> >commercially currently available in the shelves?
>
> Shelves?  Who uses those now that there's a net?  :-)
>
> Software sources for OS/2 include (but are not limited to):
>
> The Hobbes OS/2 archive (shareware and freeware)
>
>   http://hobbes.nmsu.edu
>
> BMT Micro (shareware download and registration service)
>
>   http://www.bmtmicro.com
>
> Indelible Blue (retail stuff)
>
>   http://www.indelibleblue.com
>
> For what it's worth, a CD-ROM containing the StarOffice office suite
> for OS/2, Windows, Linux, and Solaris is available from Sun for a
> nominal fee.  Large and slowish, but good software for the price.
>
>   http://www.sun.com/products/staroffice/index.html
>
> >Where can I get or buy the latest OS/2 for desktop?
>
> Indelible Blue sells it.  You can also grab copies for less money on
> eBay and other similar auction sites.
>
> --
>    -Rich Steiner  >>>--->  [e-mail]  >>>---> Bloomington, MN
>      OS/2 + BeOS + Linux + Solaris + Win95 + WinNT4 + FreeBSD + DOS
>       + VMWare + Fusion + vMac + Executor = PC Hobbyist Heaven! :-)
>            I'm not a tagline, but I play one on TV...

-------------
Stan Goodman
Qiryat Tiv'on
Israel

Spammers are getting smarter; email sent to [e-mail] will not reach
me. Sorry.
Send E-mail to: domain: hashkedim dot com, username: stan.



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From: [e-mail]                          09-Nov-99 14:15:12
  To: All                                               09-Nov-99 13:50:28
Subj: Re: CD-ROM not showing up

From: [e-mail] (Kevin Croxen)

Well, the important thing is that the CD works! But for
future reference, if you need to reinstall Warp 3, then
the likely cause of your problem was the peripheral
choice page after the first reboot. Warp 3 defaults to
"OTHER", but for ATAPI CD's the correct choice is
UNLISTED IDE. If you just let Warp 3 make its default
choice for CD selection, then the install proceeds
flawlessly, but thereafter the CD disappears without
a trace.  It was a known bug in the old Warp 3
installer.

--Kevin



On Mon, 08 Nov 1999 21:14:24 GMT, [e-mail]
<[e-mail]> wrote:
>In <qpkdVVNoMoTk-pn2-X6DR66IxwGhy@tcpserver>,
[e-mail] (Lorne Sunley) writes:
>>On Mon, 8 Nov 1999 04:07:59, [e-mail] (M.D. Madden) wrote:
>>
>>> I am running Warp 3, CD-ROM edition and it installs just fine. However
>>> after I reboot into the real session there is no CD-ROM drives
>>> recognized.
>>
>>Check the config.sys file contents. The config.sys file should have
>>
>>basedev=ibm1s506.add
>>basedev=ibmidecd.flt
>>basedev=ibmatapi.flt
>>device=c:\os2\boot\os2cdrom.dmd /Q
>>ifs=c:\os2\boot\cdifs.ifs /Q
>>device=c:\os2\mdos\vcdrom.sys
>>
>>in it to support CD-ROM devices. The ibm1s506.add will probably be
>>there as it is required for IDE hard drives.
>>
>>Make sure any CDROM drives that are all by
>>themselves on an IDE port are set as MASTER.
>>
>>Lorne Sunley
>>
>
>Lorne, you are a blessing, a BIG blessing ! If you ever come to San
Francisco,
>I'll send you a beer or cheeseburger or whatever . . . my CD-ROM kept
>disappearing, some rotten config.sys-modifying program must have been
>removing the atapi.flt line . . . ah, the pleasures of a CD again. Thank you
>much ! oddly, the cd-rom would disappear on all the systems installed . . .
>but adding the atapi filter restored it to NT and Beos as well . . . don't
ask.
>If it tries to read certain cd's it traps and crashes os/2, as well . .
maybe a
>new cd drive would be a good idea ? Sony, are they bad ?
>
>--
>h?rad ?ngravv?d
>

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From: [e-mail]                               09-Nov-99 10:12:09
  To: All                                               09-Nov-99 13:50:28
Subj: Re: Curios about OS/2

From: Thomas Galley <[e-mail]>

Hey!

Happy to see someone who wants to give it a try!

The best way to get your hands on Warp 4 is to kill an actual user and
drag it from his cold dead hands... Okay no kidding, try searching on
ebay for "OS/2" or OS2. There should be several copies around at all
times. As for SW, there still is a big choice. As an alternative to
MS-Office you can download Sun (formerly Star-) Office from their
website. It is free even for commercial use. The Internet is brought to
you by Netscape with IBM's own flavour of Communicator (4.61). There are
several very good Mail-programs and at least some good newsreader.

If you hurry up, you can get your hands on on a marvelous graphics
programm from Truespectra: PhotGraphics Pro 2.02. You can get it from
their site for free up to the end of the year.

For any further information, try consulting SoftWhere
(http://en.os2.org/software/softwhere/).

OS/2 related information is brought to you by Warpcast. Just visit the
Supersite for more information (http://www.os2ss.com).

I hope to have been helpful,

Greetings/2

Thomas

Jimmy Navarro wrote:
>
> I started using PCs from IBM PC/XT 8088 unto the latest micros with M$
> Windows, Pick OS, SunOS and Linux, except OS/2.  Are there still OS/2
> commercially currently available in the shelves?  Where can I get or buy
> the latest OS/2 for desktop?

--
PIRONET INTRANET AG
Thomas Paul Galley, MA (CCNA) - Internet/Intranet Trainee
Im Mediapark 5 - 50670 Köln
Tel.: [phone] - FAX: [phone]
mailto:[e-mail] - http://www.pironet.com
certified professional Java Programmer (see link below)
http://www.tekmetrics.com/transcript.shtml?pid=57102

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From: [e-mail]                               09-Nov-99 13:13:25
  To: All                                               09-Nov-99 13:50:28
Subj: Re: Curios about OS/2

From: Thomas Galley <[e-mail]>

Hey again!

I forgot: If you have an IDE drive larger than 4.3 Gig, you need a patch
for the installation diskettes. Grab it here:
http://service.software.ibm.com/os2ddpak/html/647679D565C73E0F862565980068EFB0.
html

Greetings/2

Thomas

Jimmy Navarro wrote:
>
> I started using PCs from IBM PC/XT 8088 unto the latest micros with M$
> Windows, Pick OS, SunOS and Linux, except OS/2.  Are there still OS/2
> commercially currently available in the shelves?  Where can I get or buy
> the latest OS/2 for desktop?

--
PIRONET INTRANET AG
Thomas Paul Galley, MA (CCNA) - Internet/Intranet Trainee
Im Mediapark 5 - 50670 Köln
Tel.: [phone] - FAX: [phone]
mailto:[e-mail] - http://www.pironet.com
certified professional Java Programmer (see link below)
http://www.tekmetrics.com/transcript.shtml?pid=57102

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From: [e-mail]                        08-Nov-99 15:00:02
  To: All                                               09-Nov-99 14:42:23
Subj: Re: CD-RW for OS2

From: [e-mail] (Alex Taylor)

On Sun, 07 Nov 1999 14:58:54 GMT, A. Willard Reese <[e-mail]>
wrote:
> I'm considering buying a Yamaha  6x4x16 internal SCSI-2 CD-RW kit with
> an Adaptec PCI SCSI interface card to run on my Warp 4.0, fixpak 11,
> system. Can anyone tell me their experience with such a setup?  How
> about drivers for OS2?  What problems have been encountered, etc?  The
> price is right on this combination but it's no good to me if it won't
> run in OS2.

I used my 6416s to cut a CD in Warp (fp9) this very morning.  :)

My SCSI adapter is a Mylex BT-958, however.  As long as the SCSI card is
supported by OS/2 there should be no problem.  Pretty much any SCSI CDRW
should work.  You just need the SCSI adapter driver and an ASPI router
driver, plus software.

CDRecord/2 is free software, and works fine with SCSI CDRW's, although
it's not all that easy to use (command-line, although some crude PM
front ends are available).  Includes mkisofs and instructions for
installing the ASPI router.

RSJ is basically your only other option (and your only option, period,
if you have an IDE CDRW).  It's supposed to be really nice, easy to
use, and powerful.  And also very expensive.

--
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 [e-mail]   http://eddie.cis.uoguelph.ca/~alex
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From: [e-mail]                                 08-Nov-99 13:17:27
  To: All                                               09-Nov-99 14:42:23
Subj: Re: ADSL connection in Victoria

From: [e-mail]

In <[e-mail]>, "andrew g"
<[e-mail]> writes:
>On Mon, 25 Oct 1999 12:21:40 -0700 (PDT), Frank Rusko wrote:
>
>>Does anyone in Victoria have experience in setting up ADSL and
>>who lives in the Victoria B.C. area.


ASDL or 1-Meg or the 2-Meg Modems.  The three are quite different services.


>
>Is this the Bell Sympatico High Speed Edition stuff?
>
>If it is, and if you get it running under OS/2, will you please post a
>detailed journal of how you did it?

Did you have any Ethernet cards in your computer, when you installed OS/2?

If not, install one or even two Ethernet card, with proper addresses, and IRQ.

Then reinstall OS/2 will get you about 5 more folders, icons, and sub folders.

 MPTS, TCP/IP, TCP/IP Utilities, TCP/IP Configeration LAN, TCP/IP Internet
 LAN, DDNS, DHCP, DHCP Monitor, ect in either the Program, and in the Setup
folders.

Then set up you 1-Meg Nortel Modem as LAN 0 in the SETUP folder.
For the most part, SENDMAIL, and the paths is the only thing you can
set up, before the phone company sends your your UserID, password, and
the various other host names.  Their should be a FaxBack phone #, and data
sheets for both the 1-Meg and the dial up service.  Find out what it is, and
request all the sheets, then seperate the OS/2 ones from the rest.  Chances
 are, their is no 1-Meg Os/2 sheet.  Their was non here in Ontario.
Then do  a bit of reading, and just step through the Program TCP/IP folder,
 and sub solder, then the seperate Setup TCP/IP folder, and the other new
folders.

Reapply your FixPack.  Order the service.

If you connect, but find your having trouble staying connected, ping the 1st
three
or four addresses of your host  ###.###.###.0, ###.###.###.1, ###.###.###.2
and see if that stabalizes the session.  It did with my system.  Bell and
Sympatico was no help.

Bell or Sympatico even though Bell had 9,000 OS/2 installed systems since
1992,
would not supply any OS/2 support for the 1-Meg Modem here in Ontario.  Bell
just
 switched to NT 4 last month.

I've had the various TCP/IP configerations add a few things to
my config.sys, and I added a few things on my own.  I don't know
if what I added is or was needed, but for me, its working, and
nolonger drops my link.

Their is a Netscape 4.61 problem when connecting to several web sites.
Some sites seem to cause Netscape to close its session, while
other sites cause the active Netscape session to switch to
DeskTop Icon.  Since many of the sites or MicroSoft Sites, I
figure its Microsoft Specific Coding that is playing games with
all software not of their creation.

If you need more specific help, e-Mail me [e-mail]
and tell me you replyed or asked more questions in this
newsgroup.  I don't read this and other areas as much as
I once did, and will have to go looking.

Chances are other can answer more specific questions re the service.

I only know my own sad experiances, here in Toronto.


.. Jim

Take care.


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From: [e-mail]                                  08-Nov-99 13:08:22
  To: All                                               09-Nov-99 14:42:23
Subj: Re: My thoughts on MicroSoft, etc.

From: [e-mail]

In article <382693b7$2$tvab$[e-mail]>,
  [e-mail] wrote:
> I know that it is popular to bash MicroSoft and Bill Gates.
>
> I personally do not care for his products. And I hate the fact that is
so
> difficult to come up with support for new products on OS/2.

Yes, I know that very well :-(

>
> But, can all the blame really go to BG and MS???
>
[..most of the resoning not cited..]

Probably not! But I see a much simpler reason for its success: Almost
everybody prefers to have just ONE single OS to deal with, starting with
hard- and software producers and vendors (less support!) down to the
single user (doesn't want to learn new systems!): If you as an admin
would try to introduce say BeOS anywhere as "the" OS used company-wide
you would probably get mostly arguments of this sort, not comments like
"wow, fancy new features, interesting user interface..."! So everybody
just goes on buying and using it.

Of course competition could improve the Win-OSes a lot (and perhaps also
lead to even more useless bloat, since the internal technical quality
of an OS doesn't immediately show up at the surface!), but for most
users the "best OS" is the one he or she is used to!

I doubt there is even much M$ can do to REALLY direct this boat(?!) In a
way BG is just the happy guy who happens to profit from a general
tendency - do you remember what a surprise the success of Windows 3.0
was for M$ and BG?? This is for me much like Helmut Kohl who always
claimed to be the one who has unified Germany :-)) Ha, ha...

> My only hope is that the DOJ will force MS to provide API calls to all
OS
> competitors so that equipment manufacturers can provide drivers to
> everyone without much additional cost...

Yes, this is also my hope, since I cannot see why just a few people at
the top of a big company should earn money just through the fact that
everybody needs an OS for any computer to run. No problems of course if
they earn money by doing serious work like others... (...very free
interpretation of a central idea of the "free software" movement - hint,
hint...).

So let's hope the best (but still be prepared to worse outcomes...)

Greetings,
Cornelis Bockemⁿhl

e-mail: [e-mail]

>
> An end to proprietary equipment and software would make things right.
>
> --
> -----------------------------------------------------------
> [e-mail]
>
> What evil lurks in the hearts of men???
> The SHADOW knows...
> -----------------------------------------------------------
>
>


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From: [e-mail]                    08-Nov-99 13:17:19
  To: All                                               09-Nov-99 14:42:23
Subj: Re: Problem with hobbes?

From: [e-mail] (John Hong)

Christian Hennecke ([e-mail]) wrote:
: "Michael W. Cocke" schrieb:
: >
: > Is something going on with hobbes.nmsu.edu?  Since Friday afternoon, I
: > haven't been able to connect using netscape.  I can ping it and tracerte
: > it - no problems, but I can't get a connect with netscape.  Very
: > puzzling...

: The same here. I don't know what could be the problem, maybe its http
: server is crashed?

    Must be since I have have been unable to get to Hobbes via http
yet am able to get there quite easily via ftp.


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From: [e-mail]                                 08-Nov-99 13:53:20
  To: All                                               09-Nov-99 14:42:23
Subj: Re: Fdisk and 3rd hard drive

From: [e-mail]

In <[e-mail]>, David Gillespie
<[e-mail]> writes:
><!doctype html public "-//w3c//dtd html 4.0 transitional//en">
><html>
>I recently installed a third hard drive, a WD 13gig on a Warp 4 system.
>I partitioned it and formatted the partitions HPFS. The problem is,
>I want to add one of the partitions to the bootmanager menu but Fdisk will
>not let me. The only options that show up when I run fdisk is:
><br>delete partition and set startup value when I select any partition
>on that drive. I have even tried using the install disks but still
>no go. Will this not work???  Any help is appreciated.
><p>David Gillespie</html>
>
>


Had the same problem a couple or years ago.


Only the 1st partition could be added to the boot manager, and then only if
that 1st partition used less than x number of cylinders.  I can't remember if
that was less than 1024, or 2048 cylinders.  It was one or the other, or 500
megs on the 8.4, Maxtor and same for the 10.1 gig IBM drive.

For the 10.1 gig drives, I had to add a setup.exe program, that open up a
 50 meg additional file that added more capability to the HPFT file
managment capacity.

Now that another 7 or 8 FixPacks were created, I don't know if you still need
 this HPFT enhancer to find the drive above 8.4 gigs.  But a year+ ago, I
needed it.



Oh, I also had problems removing the WindoZ FDisk with OS/2, and had the
drive reporting less than it should.  NT 4 also could not help OS/2 recover
the missing space.  Neither could MS DOS.  I ended up using PC DOS 5.0 to
remove all partitions, then created a small PC DOS partiton,, and formated
that.

Then OS/2 was happy, and re FDisk the 8.4.  With the 10.1, OS/2 re FDisk,
but only found the 1st 8.4 gigs about a year or more ago.  After runing the
SETUP.EXE, a 50 meg file opened upo, and the remaining 1.8 gigs appeared
as avalable spacce for FDisk to find, and either set up as a partiton, or
by deleting the 2dn partiton, the space could be added to the new 2nd
parition.


PS: a week or so ago, in one of these areas, someone reported sucessfully
formating a whole unpartitioned very large OS/2 BOOT drive.  I think he said
this was after installing FixPack 12.

I thought I dumped the message to my logs, but a quick scan of them, did not
find it.  Perhaps someone else is better organized than I am.

.. Jim

Take care!


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From: [e-mail]                          08-Nov-99 13:27:17
  To: All                                               09-Nov-99 14:42:23
Subj: Re: Thanks for reporting, new roundup

From: "Roland Pinches" <[e-mail]>

The Asus P2B-DS also works ok with more than 64Mb. I have 128 Mb installed in
2 x 64Mb modules.

Roly.

On Sun, 07 Nov 1999 15:52:15 +0000, [e-mail] wrote:

>The 'recent' (aka DIMM only) MoBo's which are OK with 64MB+ so far:
>
>FIC-503+ Via Apollo MVP3 4SIMM/2DIMM Super7
>Asus P2B-LS SCSI Slot1 4DIMM
>Asus P5-AB
>Asus P2B-S
>Asus K7M Athlon
>FIC-2013
>and others...
>
>The 'buggers' so far:
>MSI 6167
>Gigabyte GA-5AA Super7 3DIMM
>Gigabyte TX7 Athlon 3DIMM
>and others...
>



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From: [e-mail]                                 08-Nov-99 14:05:13
  To: All                                               09-Nov-99 14:42:23
Subj: Re: File size??

From: [e-mail]

In <[e-mail]>, tom <[e-mail]> writes:
>What is the largest single file size that OS/2 will address??
>
>In other words, say I want to have a single file of 1000meg
>will OS/2 be able to read it?
>

I have a 991 meg ZIP file on my system.  As I recall, it did
open up, and install, with all it many sub paths properly.


>      and people with high mobility impairments.
>
>         see it at  http://www.quadjoy.com


Mmmmm.  I'll take a look.



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From: [e-mail]                                08-Nov-99 09:29:13
  To: All                                               09-Nov-99 14:42:23
Subj: Re: My thoughts on MicroSoft, etc.

From: Ron Vopicka <[e-mail]>

> >
> > But, can all the blame really go to BG and MS???
> >
> [..most of the resoning not cited..]
>
> Probably not! But I see a much simpler reason for its success: Almost
> everybody prefers to have just ONE single OS to deal with, starting with
> hard- and software producers and vendors (less support!) down to the
> single user (doesn't want to learn new systems!): If you as an admin
> would try to introduce say BeOS anywhere as "the" OS used company-wide
> you would probably get mostly arguments of this sort, not comments like
> "wow, fancy new features, interesting user interface..."! So everybody
> just goes on buying and using it.

I'd say, probably so.

I think the judge's findings were pretty clear about the Microsoft
culture that spent a great deal of their effort MAKING things
non-compatible.  Once APIs or their equivalents were decoded the MS
policy was to change, move, bury or otherwise "tweak" their performance
to cause failures for the "competition."

Many attempts to create a set of APIs into Windows (in the absence of
freely available API specs from the OS mfger (M$) were summarily
strangled either thru financial or techinical means.

So if I were the System Admin, what would I do?  I'd go with MS, purely
because I would want one OS to support and I would be fully cognizant of
the fact that MS would be doing its level best to either break any other
system/software I would be using OR making any kind of upgrade
impossible thus dead-ending me.

For instance, MS is not interested in selling Office.  They are
interested in selling office and windows.  Any not with any other OS.
They don't want a stable well-defined API interface, and they certainly
don't want to document the "undocumented" interfaces they use.  What a
way to run and operating system!

And this is not new news.  I don't know how much the government spent on
the trial but anyone in the industry could tell you the results BEFORE
the trial.
It's kind of like a new study in progress (now) by the US government to
determine if students do better if they eat breakfast!

Ron

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From: [e-mail]                        08-Nov-99 15:11:15
  To: All                                               09-Nov-99 14:42:23
Subj: Re: Theta Band Software announces the distribution of MMPack through  M

From: [e-mail] (Alex Taylor)

On Mon, 08 Nov 1999 14:32:45 +1300, Aaron Lawrence <[e-mail]> wrote:
> > Theta Band Software's Multimedia Pack for OS/2 is now available for
> > ordering through Mensys at http://www.mensys.nl .
>
> I had a look at this, and it's cool, but the things in it aren't really
> compelling to me. There are more pressing problems with MMOS/2 such as the
> lack of much PCI soundcard support. IMHO.

My main issue with MMOS/2 is the broken mixer system.  If they could
fix that (REALLY fix it, not just work around it like aMixer et al),
I'd pay for it!  As it is, it causes me no end of frustration when all
the damn volume settings reset themselves after every event.

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 [e-mail]   http://eddie.cis.uoguelph.ca/~alex
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From: [e-mail]                               08-Nov-99 15:12:16
  To: All                                               09-Nov-99 14:42:23
Subj: Re: Can OS/2 users grow up and think like Linux users?

From: [e-mail]

In article <38226a8d$0$[e-mail]>,
  [e-mail] wrote:
> On Sat, 22 Jan 2000 14:33:19, [e-mail]
> (Raphael Tennenbaum) wrote:
>

>
> Really?  I've been running OD1.5 since it came out, and kinda
> suspected it caused some instability, but was never certain.
> Especially since I couldn't directly attribute any 'hangs' to OD.
> Does it really cause instability problems?  Is it better in OD2.0?
>
> Fritz
>
>
No, OD 2 is buggy as hell, I think 1,5 is better if anything (with the
fixpacks at the least).
There is definetly something wrong if your OS/2 system is unstable, I
run a few systems myself, there is quite a difference between protected
mode only and Winos2 enabled systems in stability but parts of that seem
to be drivers.
On my own home system has a 6 year old OS/2 setup on it, since I changed
it from a fullpack to a protected mode only some 3 years ago it has not
crashed and oddly enough all the problems that I attributed to the SIQ
dissapeared, note that I have swapped motherboards and HD at the least 6
times in that time (just copied the partitions). The only unstability I
get is that the WPS resets itself once or twice a month, but the
programs that are running are unaffected so this is more of an
annoyance than a problem.

I do take care in choosing components for this system though, especially
the cards (the motherboards and processor have caused no problems) and
update the drivers regularily.

There are also 2 OS/2 based servers here, one is an old v3 server and
the other is just Warp 3 pressed into service when I could not afford
another server license, these 2 are more stable than either the BSD
variants or Linux, in fact the only thing that is as good or better is
netware, the current trend away from these 2 workhorse OS's towards
Linux and NT, just makes me sick, especially since I have to maintain
the damn setups for my clients. Why people decide on an os first and
then talk to the techs continues to baffles me....

I also teach a few evening classes a month for a local linux school, if
someone out there thinks Linux script kiddies show a "grown up" attitude
or behaviour in any way, they obviusly have not met them :)

I do in fact I think all the deranged team os/2 members that used to go
Serdar Argic all ower the usenet some years back, are all linux users
now ;-)

Think Ill stay childish and continue using what works, Ill try BeOs as
soon as there is a torelable Modula/Oberon compiler for it
take care


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From: [e-mail]                     08-Nov-99 16:23:05
  To: All                                               09-Nov-99 14:42:23
Subj: Re: True Type Fonts in Warp 4?  HOW???

From: [e-mail] (Glen D)

Might I also suggest FreeType/2 which is improved TrueType support for
OS/2, and totally free (www.freetype.org).


Glen D
-<remove Z from my e-mail address>-


On Mon, 08 Nov 1999 19:41:34 +1000, "Christopher E. Souter"
<[e-mail]> wrote:

>Hi, everyone!
>
>Thank you for such quick replies!
>
>Your help is greatly appreciated!
>
>Best regards
>Chris Souter
>(Australia)
>[e-mail]
>
>
>Shane Baker wrote:
>>
>> On Mon, 08 Nov 1999 14:19:39 +1000, Christopher E. Souter wrote:
>>
>> >I recently upgraded from Warp 3 to Warp 4.
>> >
>> >One reason why I did this is because I understood that,
>> >among other things, Warp 4 is supposed to support True
>> >Type fonts.
>> >
>> >However, I have searched all the online documentation
>> >and I just can't find any reference to True Type fonts
>> >anywhere.
>> >
>> >So, how do you install them?  Is it through the Font
>> >Palette?  Where do you find the True Type Fonts in a
>> >standard Warp 4 system?  How do you get the Font
>> >Palette to recognise them?
>>
>> Font Pallette -> Edit Font -> Add  ..... and then select the fonts from the
>> source.
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Shane Baker
>> Canberra - Australia's national capital
>> _____________________________
>> sbakerATpcug.org.au - please make the obvious change when replying
>> Australian Pets newsgroup - aus.pets  <<>>  Australian Dogs Page -
http://www.pcug.org.au/~sbaker/dogs.htm

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From: [e-mail]                             08-Nov-99 10:22:19
  To: All                                               09-Nov-99 14:42:23
Subj: Re: My thoughts on MicroSoft, etc.

From: Alan Beagley <[e-mail]>

Of course the court's finding of facts could have been predicted. But the
court cannot proceed on the basis of "everybody knows that. . . ." The court
had to *establish* the truth of this popularly held opinion by proper legal
methods, including hearing from both/all sides.

The far more important phases of the proceedings are yet to come: (1)
determining whether M$ broke any laws; (2) if the answer to the first question
is "Yes," determining appropriate remedies.

I do not see that the next two phases will involve major additional expense.

M$ may settle in the meantime, but there would have been little incentive for
them to do so if it were not for the official finding of facts.

Alan


Ron Vopicka wrote:

<mega-snip>

> And this is not new news.  I don't know how much the government spent on the
> trial but anyone in the industry could tell you the results BEFORE
> the trial.

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From: [e-mail]                      08-Nov-99 15:20:05
  To: All                                               09-Nov-99 14:42:23
Subj: OS/2 appl. unter linux or Windows/NT

From: "Michael Wagner" <[e-mail]>

Hi folks,

is there a possibility to run os/2 appl (32Bit). under linux, win9x or NT.
-Because I have a very big customer who has to provide the possibility to
run win32 and os/2 appl. on the same machine.
-OS/2 as desktop platform is death! I have this info from IBM directly. I
think there must be a lot of another companies with the same problem

vmware dose not support os2 yet(if enough interested party are asking for
vmware will build in the os/2 support),
bochs doese also not support os2 (I've no statement from bochs at present).
.
is there something else?.






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From: [e-mail]                        08-Nov-99 15:28:10
  To: All                                               09-Nov-99 14:42:23
Subj: Re: Warp 4.0 install tactics

From: [e-mail] (Alex Taylor)

On Sun, 07 Nov 1999 21:40:00 -0500, Alan Beagley <[e-mail]>
wrote:

> > Hi all. I need help with Warp 4.0 and its installer. I D/L'ed the
> > latest device driver from IBM's Device Driver site to update the
> > install floppies so that they recognize hard drives bigger than 8 Gb.
> > Now my 6.4 Gb hard drive looks like this:-
> >
> > PARTITION 1:            FAT16           DOS622  830Mb
> > PARTITION 2:            FAT32           WIN 98          2.0GB
> >
> > 6X CD-ROM       Primary Master
> > 6.4Gb HDD       Secondary Master
> > LS-120 FDD      Primary Slave (as yet not connected)
> >
> > The rest of the 3.0Gb-something freespace is idle. My question is
> > this; does Warp have to installed first (i.e in the first 1Gb of the
> > drive) because of the 1024 cylinder limit? Or can it be anywhere in
> > the freespace of the drive? I was told by a few others that Warp needs
> > to be in the first gig of hard drive space. Also, can the partition
> > where Warp is installed be bigger than 1Gb or what? That's my other
> > query. I'm asking all of this because I've been tearing my hair out
> > trying to get Warp installed. A few others have done it successfully,
> > so what's the deal with me? If anyone can assist me, offer some sane
> > advice or a copy of their Warp 4.0 install floppies , I would be
> > extremely grateful. Thanks all for reading. CYA!!!
>
> The *bootable* Warp partition has to be within the first 1024 cylinders.
> With modern drives with LBA (Logical Block Addressing), this works out to
> about 8GB, I think.

According to IBM (Timothy Sipples), this restriction no longer exists
in WSeb... do you suppose this will make it into a Warp 4 FixPak some
time?

In any case (to original poster) you should be fine.  Warp does _not_
need to be within the first gig.  You might have a problem if it goes
past 8 gigs or so...

> I don't think that OS/2 will accept your current drive arrangement: it is
> not acceptable to have a device on the Secondary Master with nothing on
> the Primary Slave.

But according to this, the LS-120 is Primary Slave.

I'm not really sure that's a good idea either.  I've heard stories of
people having trouble when the LS-120 is not a Master on its IDE channel.

> In addition, it seems strange to have the CD-ROM drive as the Primary
> Master. The boot drive is normally the Primary Master. Your arrangement
> may work, but it does seem unusual.

That it does... Personally, I'd recommend putting the hard drive on
Primary Master, the CD-ROM on Primary Slave, and the LS-120 on
Secondary Master.

> You will have to let OS/2 install Boot Manager first. This takes one
> cylinder of your disk.

Also, if the LS-120 is your only floppy drive, you will have to be
careful how you edit your CONFIG.SYS.  I believe the order of BASEDEVs
is important.  And, in my case it didn't work until I disabled
busmastering on that IDE channel (in the IBM1S506 statement).

--
-----------------------------------------------------------------
 Alex Taylor                  BA - CIS - University of Guelph
 [e-mail]   http://eddie.cis.uoguelph.ca/~alex
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From: [e-mail]                                  08-Nov-99 15:54:14
  To: All                                               09-Nov-99 14:42:23
Subj: Re: ADSL connection in Victoria

From: [e-mail] (Stan Goodman)

On Mon, 8 Nov 1999 13:17:54, [e-mail] wrote:

> In <[e-mail]>, "andrew g"
<[e-mail]> writes:
> >On Mon, 25 Oct 1999 12:21:40 -0700 (PDT), Frank Rusko wrote:
> >
> >>Does anyone in Victoria have experience in setting up ADSL and
> >>who lives in the Victoria B.C. area.
>
>
> ASDL or 1-Meg or the 2-Meg Modems.  The three are quite different services.
>
>
> >
> >Is this the Bell Sympatico High Speed Edition stuff?
> >
> >If it is, and if you get it running under OS/2, will you please post a
> >detailed journal of how you did it?
>
> Did you have any Ethernet cards in your computer, when you installed OS/2?
>
> If not, install one or even two Ethernet card, with proper addresses, and
IRQ.
> Then reinstall OS/2 will get you about 5 more folders, icons, and sub
folders.
>  MPTS, TCP/IP, TCP/IP Utilities, TCP/IP Configeration LAN, TCP/IP Internet
>  LAN, DDNS, DHCP, DHCP Monitor, ect in either the Program, and in the Setup
> folders.

Could you please rewrite the above paragraph, especially the second
sentence. Why did you have to reinstall OS/2 (if that's what you said)?

It might even help if you rewrote the paragraph below too, in actual
sentences.

>
> Then set up you 1-Meg Nortel Modem as LAN 0 in the SETUP folder.
> For the most part, SENDMAIL, and the paths is the only thing you can
> set up, before the phone company sends your your UserID, password, and
> the various other host names.  Their should be a FaxBack phone #, and data
> sheets for both the 1-Meg and the dial up service.  Find out what it is, and
> request all the sheets, then seperate the OS/2 ones from the rest.  Chances
>  are, their is no 1-Meg Os/2 sheet.  Their was non here in Ontario.
> Then do  a bit of reading, and just step through the Program TCP/IP folder,
>  and sub solder, then the seperate Setup TCP/IP folder, and the other new
folders.
>
> Reapply your FixPack.  Order the service.
>
> If you connect, but find your having trouble staying connected, ping the 1st
three
> or four addresses of your host  ###.###.###.0, ###.###.###.1, ###.###.###.2
> and see if that stabalizes the session.  It did with my system.  Bell and
> Sympatico was no help.
>
> Bell or Sympatico even though Bell had 9,000 OS/2 installed systems since
1992,
> would not supply any OS/2 support for the 1-Meg Modem here in Ontario.  Bell
just
>  switched to NT 4 last month.
>
> I've had the various TCP/IP configerations add a few things to
> my config.sys, and I added a few things on my own.  I don't know
> if what I added is or was needed, but for me, its working, and
> nolonger drops my link.
>
> Their is a Netscape 4.61 problem when connecting to several web sites.
> Some sites seem to cause Netscape to close its session, while
> other sites cause the active Netscape session to switch to
> DeskTop Icon.  Since many of the sites or MicroSoft Sites, I
> figure its Microsoft Specific Coding that is playing games with
> all software not of their creation.
>
> If you need more specific help, e-Mail me [e-mail]
> and tell me you replyed or asked more questions in this
> newsgroup.  I don't read this and other areas as much as
> I once did, and will have to go looking.
>
> Chances are other can answer more specific questions re the service.
>
> I only know my own sad experiances, here in Toronto.
>
>
> ... Jim
>
> Take care.
>
>

-------------
Stan Goodman
Qiryat Tiv'on
Israel

Spammers are getting smarter; email sent to [e-mail] will not reach
me. Sorry.
Send E-mail to: domain: hashkedim dot com, username: stan.



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From: [e-mail]                             08-Nov-99 07:58:21
  To: All                                               09-Nov-99 14:42:23
Subj: Re: Unattended Shutdown

From: [e-mail]

In <[e-mail]>, on 11/08/99
   at 08:32 AM, Sergey Antipov <[e-mail]> said:

>Please help me to find an utility to shutdown OS/2 Warp 3 in
>unattended mode, i.e. from batch file, with no one pressing "Yes"
>button during

I have configured Ctrl-Alt-Del Commander to close all my programs
that want a "Yes" answer so I can shut down without those
interruptions.

--
-----------------------------------------------------------
Bob Stephan [e-mail] or [e-mail]
  Happily using OS/2 Warp on the Central California Coast.
   http://www.redshift.com/~bstephan
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From: [e-mail]                             08-Nov-99 11:20:10
  To: All                                               09-Nov-99 14:42:23
Subj: Re: Warp 4.0 install tactics

From: Alan Beagley <[e-mail]>

I had written:

> I don't think that OS/2 will accept your current drive arrangement: it is
> not acceptable to have a device on the Secondary Master with nothing on
> the Primary Slave.

Alex Taylor replied:

> But according to this, the LS-120 is Primary Slave.

But the original poster had stated that the LS-120 was "not yet connected". I
was
not sure whether he was planning to install Warp 4 from a regular FDD, then
hook up
the LS-120 later.

Alan

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From: [e-mail]                                 08-Nov-99 16:25:03
  To: All                                               09-Nov-99 14:42:23
Subj: Re: Thanks for reporting, new roundup

From: [e-mail] (Bruce LaZerte)

On Sun, 7 Nov 1999 15:52:15, [e-mail] wrote:

> The 'buggers' so far:
> MSI 6167
> Gigabyte GA-5AA Super7 3DIMM
> Gigabyte TX7 Athlon 3DIMM
> and others...

So it's a
> 'recent' (aka DIMM only)
problem, not just a problem associated with Athlon mother boards?

I've got a couple of early ASUS P2B's that work fine with 128MB in DIMMs

What about AOpen AX6BC or Soyo SY-6BA+IV ?? Anybody know if they are OK >
64MB ?

----------------------
Bruce LaZerte
Muskoka,Ontario,Canada
freshwat at muskoka dot com

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From: [e-mail]                                      08-Nov-99 11:40:20
  To: All                                               09-Nov-99 14:42:23
Subj: Tracking OS/2 Memory Detection Problems - Athlon et al...

From: "Frank Field" <[e-mail]>

**Posted also to TEAMOS2-HELP listserv**
Hi, all:

I'm trying to track what's going wrong with memory detection with my new
Gigabyte Athlon motherboard and OS/2 Warp 4, and I have come upon a
potential BIOS "feature" that may be related.  For my purposes, I need
some people who (a) have more than 64 megabytes of RAM on their
OS/2 machines, (b) know whether OS/2 detects all of the RAM on
the board, (c) aren't afraid to muck about a bit with the DOS DEBUG command.

Here's the circumstance:  IBM states in Technical Document #1171806 that
OS/2 determines installed memory in the following fashion:

>During startup, OS2LDR issues the three BIOS calls, which are
>described later in this document. If INT 15 AX=88 returns a value
>other than 16M, this is the amount of RAM OS/2 addresses. If it
>returns 16M, OS/2 checks the return from INT 15 AX=E801 to see if
>extra RAM is available. Once OS2LDR determines what RAM is available
>to the system, it passes this to OS2KRNL. OS2KRNL initializes the Page
>Manager, which does a final check to verify that the RAM returned by
>the BIOS really is addressable.

A summary of the calls cited in the doc is as follows:

> BIOS Calls to Determine RAM on Non-Micro-Channel Systems

> INT 12

> This is the standard industry call to query the BIOS for available RAM
> below 640KB. The call returns into the AX register, the number of 1KB
> blocks of RAM the system has available in this memory area.

> INT 15 ;AH=88

> This is the standard industry call to query the BIOS for RAM between
> 1 MB and 64 MB. The call returns, to the AX register, the number of
> 1 KB blocks of RAM the system has available in this memory area.>
 The call technically can support between 1 MB and 65 MB,>
 but the standard limits it to 64 MB.

> INT 15 ;AX=E801

> This is a call used by Compaq systems to query the BIOS for memory
> between 16 MB and 4 GB.  The call returns, to the BX register, the
> number of 64 KB blocks of memory the system has available in
> this memory area. If there is more than 64 MB of memory in the
> system, the INT 15 AH=88 call should return only 16 MB, and the
> programmer should use INT 15 AX=E801 to find the additional
> memory available to the system. INT 15 AX=E801 also returns in
> the AX register, number of 1 KB pages between 1 MB and 16 MB,
> so that the INT 15 AX=E801 call returns all memory above 1 MB.
> AMI also has implemented this call, but OS/2 does not currently
> support their implementation.

Well, the machine I am sending this message from does *NOT* behave this
way, yet OS/2 detects all 128 megabytes of RAM on it.  What happens on
this machine is that when INT 15H is invoked with AX=88, the Award BIOS
returns AX=0000 with the carry flag clear.  This means that the call was
successful and that the system has 0 or 64 megabytes of RAM above 1 MB,
depending on how you want to interpret the AX value (number of 1K blocks
above 1MB); according to IBM the spec limits the return value to between
0 and FC00, so that the return is somewhere between 0MB and 63 MB.  Of
course, one alternative interpretation is that AX=0 and carry clear
means 64 megabytes; i.e. an AX overflow condition with AX=(1)0000, but
this is just a guess.

Either way, according to the IBM spec above, the return value should be
AX=4000H or 3C00H, the first meaning that there is 16M above 1M and the
second meaning that the total memory is 16M (I'm not sure which).  So,
my machine is not compliant with what IBM says is going on, yet OS/2
correctly goes ahead and invokes INT 15H, AX=E801 and gets the correct
result, which is AX=3C00H (15360) and BX=0700H (1792), adding up to 127
MB (15360*1024 + 1792*65536 = 127MB)

So, can I get some more data points?  I'm going to run through this test
with the Gigabyte board, and I'm hoping that I'll get something
radically different that I can use to tell them exactly what they need
to tell Award to do to fix the BIOS.  BUT, since this machine here
violates the IBM spec, yet OS/2 handles it OK, I'm thinking that I'll
need some more data before I make the case.

I'm guessing that, to be absolutely authoritative, I will need testers
to run this test booted to DOS, since I'm not sure whether the results
gotten from within a DOS session under OS/2 are necessarily reflective
of the ROM BIOS, but I'll take whatever information I can get.

Thanks, and if anyone has any other ideas, I'm all ears...........



Frank Field
[e-mail]
O-


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From: [e-mail]                                      09-Nov-99 13:17:04
  To: All                                               09-Nov-99 16:00:00
Subj: OS/2 & >64 MB Detection on new boards

From: "Frank Field" <[e-mail]>

I got this message from Gigabyte when I was trying
to figure out why my new Athlon board wouldn't
address more than 64 megs of RAM.  It points to a
problem between OS/2 internals and the emerging
hardware "standards."  Anyone got any thoughts about
how to point this out to IBM?

=======

Dear Sir,

I'm responding to your FAX about BIOS problems sizing memory
above 64MB with OS/2.

OS/2 and Windows NT/9x use different BIOS calls to determine
how much memory is available.  OS/2 uses INT 15h,AX=E801h
while Windows uses INT 15h,AX=E820h.

Look here, http://www.ctyme.com/intr/int.htm
<http://www.ctyme.com/intr/int.htm>  to see the details.

Award has had support for the E801 call since late in 1995.
Recently, though, this support was made conditional on ACPI
in order to pass an Intel "Component Validation Test".  In other
words a BIOS with ACPI support could not have E801 support.
Very recently (October), this code was refined to allow the
E801 support to be included even if ACPI is supported.

In summary, your BIOS doesn't have support for the runtime
call OS/2 needs to correctly determine how much memory
above 64MB is available.  It is possible that a BIOS upgrade
from Gigabyte might fix this.

I hope this clarifies what is happening for you, and regret that
we can't make the BIOS support OS/2.

=======


Frank Field
[e-mail]
O-


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From: [e-mail]                                      09-Nov-99 13:40:22
  To: All                                               09-Nov-99 16:00:00
Subj: Re: Thanks for reporting, new roundup

From: "Frank Field" <[e-mail]>

On Sun, 07 Nov 1999 15:52:15 +0000, [e-mail] wrote:

:>The 'recent' (aka DIMM only) MoBo's which are OK with 64MB+ so far:
:>
:>FIC-503+ Via Apollo MVP3 4SIMM/2DIMM Super7
:>Asus P2B-LS SCSI Slot1 4DIMM
:>Asus P5-AB
:>Asus P2B-S
:>Asus K7M Athlon
:>FIC-2013
:>and others...
:>
:>The 'buggers' so far:
:>MSI 6167
:>Gigabyte GA-5AA Super7 3DIMM
:>Gigabyte TX7 Athlon 3DIMM
:>and others...
:>

I have a relatively authoritative e-mail here that I would like to cite,
pointing out
where this problem comes from:

==START OF EMAIL===

Dear Sir,

I'm responding to your FAX about BIOS problems sizing memory
above 64MB with OS/2.

OS/2 and Windows NT/9x use different BIOS calls to determine
how much memory is available.  OS/2 uses INT 15h,AX=E801h
while Windows uses INT 15h,AX=E820h.

Look here, http://www.ctyme.com/intr/int.htm
<http://www.ctyme.com/intr/int.htm>  to see the details.

Award has had support for the E801 call since late in 1995.
Recently, though, this support was made conditional on ACPI
in order to pass an Intel "Component Validation Test".  In other
words a BIOS with ACPI support could not have E801 support.
Very recently (October), this code was refined to allow the
E801 support to be included even if ACPI is supported.

In summary, your BIOS doesn't have support for the runtime
call OS/2 needs to correctly determine how much memory
above 64MB is available.  It is possible that a BIOS upgrade
from Gigabyte might fix this.

I hope this clarifies what is happening for you, and regret that
we can't make the BIOS support OS/2.

===END OF EMAIL====

What to do about this??


Frank Field
[e-mail]
O-


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From: [e-mail]                                      09-Nov-99 15:42:25
  To: All                                               09-Nov-99 20:25:14
Subj: Re: OS/2 & >64 MB Detection on new boards

From: "Frank Field" <[e-mail]>

Small correction: that e-mail missive was from Phoenix
Technologies, not Gigabyte.  The following message
came over the transom:

================

Please feel free to use my E-mail.  I guess I wasn't
clear about this, but I work in Engineering Support
(i.e. Technical Support) at Phoenix.  Phoenix and Award
merged some time ago.  I have access to the Award codebase,
so the information I gave you is based on reading the BIOS
source code.

================



Frank Field
[e-mail]
O-


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From: [e-mail]                         09-Nov-99 14:15:29
  To: All                                               09-Nov-99 20:25:15
Subj: Re: Curios about OS/2

From: "Duane A. Chamblee" <[e-mail]>

Thanks for the plug, but the fixpaks(and more) are on a seperate CD
called WarpUP!.
For $19, you get all the latest stuff for OS/2. I recommend getting
WarpUP! when ordering Warp4 because updated installation diskettes are
on the WarpUP CD.

(this is a totally shamless plug ;-)

Stan Goodman wrote:
>
> I think the query was about where he can get the OS itself. The easiest way
> to do that would be to order from Indelible Blue, which would get him (if I
> am not mistaken) also the lastest fixpack too":
>
> http://www.indelible-blue.com

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From: [e-mail]                                 09-Nov-99 20:44:18
  To: All                                               09-Nov-99 20:25:15
Subj: Help! Can't access WWW

From: [e-mail]

Suddenly I can't use WebExplorer or Netscape to view any web page except the
one on the host computer.

I can use NewsReader/2 to check newsgroups & post this request, and FTP to log
onto a remote server, but I can't use the WWW.

If I ping a site, I can get returned packets, but if I ping using the -r flag
(route)
it won't work, saying something about the network not available.

When I try to connect to a site using WE v1.1h, it says Connect...then an
error
message pops up saying the server stopped sending info, or the server is busy.

I recall that there was something about the /tcpip/etc/resolv and hosts files
which were important, but can't remember what that was.

Could anyone help, please?

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From: [e-mail]                                08-Nov-99 20:24:03
  To: All                                               09-Nov-99 20:25:15
Subj: Re: CD-RW for OS2

From: [e-mail] (Jerry McBride)

In article <807g6o$c7m$[e-mail]>,
[e-mail] (Pierre Jelenc) wrote:
>Jerry McBride <[e-mail]> writes:
>>
>> Right off the bat... the 6416 runs just fine under all versions of OS/2
with
>> the exception of... there have been posts to the effect that the 6416 is
not
>> able to cda with certain software...  Why? I have no idea as I don't own
one.
>
>That was me. It works fine with cdda2wav from the cdrecord package, but
>that seems to be the only one.
>
>There seems to be a bug in cdda2wav, but it's minor. If you try to rip a
>number of tracks, say 2-5, and track 5 is longer than track 4, then track
>5 will be truncated to the length of track 4. There is no problem in
>single-track ripping.
>

YIPES! You're right! I was playing with cdda2wav last night and I kept getting
a short wav file when ripped in batch mode. However ripping it by-it's-self
would yield a full length wav! Wow! That one was driving me nuts!

Also, cdda2wav could use a little attention to it's jitter routine as it does
not always work really well...

Also, the -n switch simply fails to work! I can't reset the buffer to more
than
the default.

Hmmm... a little more documentation would be nice too... :')


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From: [e-mail]                 09-Nov-99 10:27:02
  To: All                                               09-Nov-99 20:25:15
Subj: Sorry, I have given up !

From: [e-mail]

I'm afraid I took the easy route: I swapped my SB16-PCI for an ISA version.
(I know, going the easy way is like running Windos 98. I might be weak, but
not
patient enough to run Windos.) So I did not get to trying the Ensoniq 1371
drivers on my SB16-PCI (1373) card :-(

I read over at the www.TheRegister.co.uk, that Ceative is going to 'open
source' their sound card drivers for Linux. OS/2 programmers might profit from
that, it'll be some time though.

OS/2 forever !

> Wim Wauters.

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From: [e-mail]                        09-Nov-99 17:59:19
  To: All                                               09-Nov-99 21:17:16
Subj: Re: Unattended Shutdown

From: "Joseph O. Henley" <[e-mail]>

Sergey Antipov wrote:
>
> Hello everybody!
> Please help me to find an utility to shutdown OS/2 Warp 3 in unattended
> mode, i.e. from batch file, with no one pressing "Yes" button during
> shutdown. The task is to shut down OS/2 server from UPS. PowerShute for
> OS/2 does not works.
> Please e-mail to [e-mail]
> Thanks in advance,
> Sergey Antipov

Sergey,

Following is a post which I had saved for just such occasions.  Hope it
helps.

You'll probably want to use something like:  START /DOS ......

Joe
---------------------------------


From "Derek Hawkins" <[e-mail]>

Date Sent  Wed, 28 Apr 1999 23:51:05 -0400

Subject  Re: Turn of computer via software.

Here's how to do it from the DOS prompt in MSDOS mode without having to
use
the switch;

Type the following  lines (one is blank) in your favorite text editor
(EDIT
will do just fine) and save as text file SHUTDOWN.TXT;

N SHUTDOWN.COM
A CS:0100
MOV     AX,5301
XOR     BX,BX
INT     15
MOV     AX,530E
MOV     CX,0101
XOR     BX,BX
INT     15
MOV     AX,530F
MOV     BX,0001
MOV     CX,BX
INT     15
MOV     AX,5308
MOV     BX,0001
MOV     CX,BX
INT     15
MOV     AX,5307
MOV     BX,0001
MOV     CX,0003
INT     15
<blank line>
R CX
30
W
Q

Type and enter the following at a DOS prompt after doing the above;

DEBUG < SHUTDOWN.TXT

This will create the file SHUTDOWN.COM (48 bytes) in the same directory.
SHUTDOWN.COM will power-off the computer when executed in MSDOS mode.
This
should work with any ATX motherboard.

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From: [e-mail]                   09-Nov-99 10:02:13
  To: All                                               09-Nov-99 21:17:16
Subj: strange network printing trouble

From: [e-mail]

I run lprportd and lpd.  In my config.sys I have:

SET LPR_SERVER=152.1.xxx.xx
SET LPR_PRINTER=lp

(with actual numbers replacing the "x"'s, of course.)

In the printer object I have the right driver installed (HP4000N) and the
ports are LPT2 and \PIPE\LPD0.   When I print from my file manager
(DirMaster) the file prints just fine.  But when I print from Netscape or
Describe or AmiPro I get a black page.  Needless to say, my department
doesn't appreciate this use of toner.  Obviously my machine is talking to
the printer, and sometimes it prints.  What could be the problem?  (other
problem, much more minor:  how do I add a second remote printer?  I have its
IP number but obviously adding another SET statement to the config.sys isn't
going to do it.)

(By the way, this used to work just fine from my previous machine.)



--
                                         Regards,
                                         David
Food without hospitality is medicine
                  --Tamil proverb
"What would life be without arithmetic, but a scene of horrors?"
                       -Rev. Sydney Smith, letter to young lady, 22 July 1835


-----------------------------------------------------------
David Auerbach                   [e-mail]
Department of Philosophy & Religion
NCSU
Box 8103
Raleigh, 27695-8103
-----------------------------------------------------------




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From: james.arnold@!!!usa.net                           10-Nov-99 02:08:10
  To: All                                               10-Nov-99 05:30:18
Subj: Re: Win-OS/2 Print Manager Starts Automatically with Win-OS/2 - WHY?

From: james.arnold@!!!usa.net

In <[e-mail]>, "J. R. Fox" <[e-mail]> writes:
>James Arnold wrote:
>
>> To stop the Win-OS/2 Print Manager forever add the following >to the
"[boot]" section of system.ini:
>>
>>         MAVDMAPPS=
>>
>>Once that is done you won't be bothered by Print Manager >again.
>
>
>There was another such fix-line floating around
>
>          WAVDMAPPS=
>
>Do you happen to recall what that was for ?
>
><jf>
>

        I cann't remember what that last line was for, although I too have
it in system.ini.

        Jim


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                                              ICQ:    9719182

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From: [e-mail]                               10-Nov-99 01:28:28
  To: All                                               10-Nov-99 05:30:18
Subj: Startup problem

From: Andy Iseli <[e-mail]>

Hello,

Yesterday I made some changes to an OS/2 v3.0 PC. It was fine all day
yesterday and it shut down no problem.

This morning when I start the PC up, it goes through it's startup
sequence then after I log onto the LAN it goes to launch CMD.EXE, then
given an error about installation, and then loops though this process
again and again. The size of CMD.EXD is 94000bytes compared to another
of 76000bytes.

Any ideas would be greatly appreciated.

Andy


Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.

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From: [e-mail]                            09-Nov-99 19:33:13
  To: All                                               10-Nov-99 05:30:18
Subj: Re: Unwanted "Open as" entry - and removeal thereof

From: Chuck McKinnis <[e-mail]>

Go to http://www.os2ss.com/information/kelder and get Henk's association
editor.  Does a great job of cleaning up unwanted associations.  His
WPTools is also a must have.

Richard A Crane wrote:
>
> Somehow I have managed to create a entry in my "open as"
> field for all my "plain text" files.
>
> This entry reads DUTCHLAW (yep I did this when trying to
> associate a file called that with e.exe - got it backwards
> somehow it seems!) and will not allow me to delete it from
> the "Properties>Menu Action on Menu Box (where both the
> "Delete" and "Properties" remain stubbornly greyed out.
>
> Using Unimaint on the INI files doesn't show anything that
> to me looks like it relates to this - yet I recall that
> unimaint gets rid of those extra "new folder" entries in the
> "create" bit of some menus. Can some WPS guru tell me where
> to look for the offending entry (would  it be in the SYSINI
> file or the other INI file - or is it somewhere else?) - and
> how to get rid of it?
>
> Thanks
>
> Richard A Crane
> Barrister & Solicitor
> slightly altered email (anti-spamming) rcrane AT
> octa4.net.au
> OR rcrane AT attglobal.net


--
Chuck McKinnis
Senior Systems Engineer
Denver Solutions Group, Inc.
IBM Business Partner
IBM Senior Systems Engineer (retired)

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From: [e-mail]                                  10-Nov-99 03:05:15
  To: All                                               10-Nov-99 05:30:18
Subj: Re: Cable connection to MediaOne RoadRunner

From: [e-mail] (Carl S. Hayes)

Thanks Nate . . . your site is detailed and informative.

Carl

In message <[e-mail]>
- [e-mail] (Nathan Liskov) writes:
:>
:>typically they will only install on a system runing win95/98 or nt.
:>put win95 on your system in partition C if it is not there, have
:>mediaone install the cable and get it working.  Then after they leave
:>boot up os/2 and configure it yourself.  There is some guidance on how
:>to do this on my web site at http://nateliskov.ne.mediaone.net
:>
:>    good luck,
:>
:>        nate liskov
:>
:>On Fri, 5 Nov 1999 22:12:50, [e-mail] (Carl S. Hayes) wrote:
:>
:>> Trying to get information/experiences with the installation and
:>> use of MediaOne RoadRunner cable Internet service.
:>>
:>> They have recently, in the Richmond, VA area, started selling the
:>> service and I would like to 'get connected'.  For the most part I can
:>> not find ANYONE at MediaOne who ever knows what OS/2, let alone
:>> Warp4 is . . .
:>>
:>> I finaly got a guy in Florida that is checking into it for me, and while
:>> he claims that is on the list of OSs that will operate on RoadRunner,
:>> it in all likelyhood is not supported.  I am not really sure ANYONE
:>> in the greater Richmond, VA MediaOne staff, knows what OS/2 is!
:>>
:>> South of Richmond they have @Home and I know a person or two
:>> that is using it, but until AT&T combines the two companies, I'm
:>> hoping that someone out there might point me in the right direction.
:>>
:>> Thanking you in advance for any assistance/information you might
:>> provide!
:>>
:>> Carl
:>>
:>>
:>
:>[e-mail]   http://nateliskov.ne.mediaone.net




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From: [e-mail]                                  10-Nov-99 03:03:03
  To: All                                               10-Nov-99 05:30:18
Subj: Re: Cable connection to MediaOne RoadRunner

From: [e-mail] (Carl S. Hayes)

Thanks John, I'll take a look . . .

Carl

In message
<[e-mail]> -
[e-mail] (John Varela) writes:
:>
:>On Fri, 5 Nov 1999 22:12:50, [e-mail] (Carl S. Hayes) wrote:
:>
:>> Trying to get information/experiences with the installation and
:>> use of MediaOne RoadRunner cable Internet service.
:>
:>Take a look at
:>http://larkin.nuclearwinter.com/rros2/ExperimentalRROS2.html
:>
:>--
:>John Varela
:>to e-mail, remove - between mind and spring




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From: [e-mail]                    10-Nov-99 03:33:02
  To: All                                               10-Nov-99 05:30:18
Subj: Re: Athlon, ASUS K7M Motherboard, and OS/2

From: [e-mail] (John Hong)

Robert Dohrenburg ([e-mail]) wrote:

: I usually buy MBs at TCComputers and they only show the FIC Athlon MB.
: Thanks a lot for the store tip.

    FIC is the *only* motherboard manufactorer that has publicly
advertised their Athlon MB.  ASUS for example sells their Athlon MB under
the guise of "Freetech".  Which is funny since the documentation says
ASUS.  There are already rumors of ASUS dropping their Athlon due to
pressure from Intel.  I think those rumors have been refuted, but who
knows.

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From: [e-mail]                                09-Nov-99 23:24:25
  To: All                                               10-Nov-99 05:30:18
Subj: New Issue of OS/2 e-Zine!

From: "Christopher B. Wright" <[e-mail]>

The November issue of OS/2 e-Zine! is now online:

http://www.os2ezine.com

In this issue:

Software/Hardware reviews
A look at "Judgement Day"
Warp Expo West
Warpstock
and more!

Christopher B. Wright ([e-mail])
Interim Editor In Chief, OS/2 e-Zine!
Christopher B. Wright ([e-mail])
"We are all born originals -- why is it so many of us die copies?"
       - Edward Young


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From: [e-mail]                             09-Nov-99 22:33:07
  To: All                                               10-Nov-99 05:30:18
Subj: Re: New Issue of OS/2 e-Zine!

From: Wayne Swanson <[e-mail]>

"Christopher B. Wright" wrote:
>
> The November issue of OS/2 e-Zine! is now online:

YAAAAHHHHH!!!

I'm on my way!

Wayne Swanson
------------------------------------------------------------
email: [e-mail]
PillarSoft: http://www.pillarsoft.net
Developers of: WarpZip, DeskTop Backup (DTB), SFX Installer
               ShowTime/2 and the Enhanced E Editors
Vice President: VOICE (Virtual OS/2 International Consumer Education)
VOICE: http://www.os2voice.org
------------------------------------------------------------

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From: [e-mail]                                09-Nov-99 23:53:08
  To: All                                               10-Nov-99 05:30:18
Subj: Re: OS2Ezine

From: "Christopher B. Wright" <[e-mail]>

On Fri, 05 Nov 1999 18:02:14 GMT, David T. Anderson wrote:

>On Thu, 4 Nov 1999 04:30:14, Martin Nisshagen
><[e-mail]> wrote:
>
>> Tony Eamick [Prodigy Internet http://www.prodigy.com] -> comp.os.os2.misc:
>>
>> ε Has OS2Ezine closed up or changed url's ? I have been checking there for
>>
>> Not at all. They have redesigned the site and now they work on a new
>> publishing system for it (to be able to manage it more effectively).
>
>Yes, but it's sure a long time since any news about this has come down
>the pike.  WarpCast is still in operation, so I guess they're still
>there, but in these uncertain times for OS/2 [even MORE uncertain], it
>would be nice to get some reassurance....
>
>David T. Anderson
>Calgary, Alberta
>http://www.agt.net/public/dtander/
>
>Using ProNews/2 for OS/2 Warp
>
>**NOSPAM**  To email me, remove the 's' from my address...

Be reassured. The November issue of OS/2 e-Zine! is now online.


Christopher B. Wright ([e-mail])
"We are all born originals -- why is it so many of us die copies?"
       - Edward Young


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From: [e-mail]....               10-Nov-99 04:03:24
  To: All                                               10-Nov-99 05:30:18
Subj: Re: A clip from DOJ judge on OS/2

Message sender: [e-mail]

From: [e-mail] (Jim Nuytens)

On Sun, 7 Nov 1999 21:40:40, [e-mail] (Glen D)
wrote:

>
> Hasn'y anyone seen the article on WarpCast about rumours of an Aurora
> client?
>

And that's about all it is. I'll believe it when I see it; not before.



"The bureaucratic mentality is the only constant in the universe."
Dr. McCoy to Kirk / Star Trek IV:The Voyage Home

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From: [e-mail]                                09-Nov-99 23:24:09
  To: All                                               10-Nov-99 05:30:18
Subj: Re: OS2 e-Zine, new publishing systems, and a beta

From: "Christopher B. Wright" <[e-mail]>

On Sun, 07 Nov 1999 18:06:02 -0800, Lee Reilly wrote:

>Rick Davis wrote:
>
>> >  http://blimey.netmonger.net/e-zine-ii/
>
>Looks like the publishers are going to charge.
>Too bad.  I'll stick to the newsgroups thank you.
>
>LEE
>

We're not charging a damn thing. What the !@#$% are you talking about?


Christopher B. Wright ([e-mail])
"We are all born originals -- why is it so many of us die copies?"
       - Edward Young


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From: [e-mail]                          10-Nov-99 12:14:03
  To: All                                               10-Nov-99 10:29:14
Subj: Re: True Type Fonts in Warp 4?  HOW???

From: [e-mail] (Buddy Donnelly)

On Mon, 8 Nov 1999 05:55:39, "Shane Baker" <[e-mail]> a ┌crit
dans un message:

> On Mon, 08 Nov 1999 14:19:39 +1000, Christopher E. Souter wrote:
>
> >I recently upgraded from Warp 3 to Warp 4.
> >
> >One reason why I did this is because I understood that,
> >among other things, Warp 4 is supposed to support True
> >Type fonts.
> >
> >However, I have searched all the online documentation
> >and I just can't find any reference to True Type fonts
> >anywhere.
> >
> >So, how do you install them?  Is it through the Font
> >Palette?  Where do you find the True Type Fonts in a
> >standard Warp 4 system?  How do you get the Font
> >Palette to recognise them?
>
> Font Pallette -> Edit Font -> Add  ..... and then select the fonts from the
> source.

Or use Cliff Cullum's FontFolder utility, which provides excellent font
management for OS/2. World-class font management, in fact.

It's shareware, so you can test it, and it's available online at:

    http://www.pvsoft.com/


--

Good luck,

Buddy

Buddy Donnelly
[e-mail]


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From: [e-mail]                          10-Nov-99 12:51:01
  To: All                                               10-Nov-99 12:08:18
Subj: Re: Who runs this country?

From: [e-mail] (The Doctor)

In article <942217866.56827858@news>, Barry Adams  <[e-mail]> wrote:
>On Tue, 09 Nov 1999, Erik wrote:
>
>>> Barry you should stick to what you know.  You really don't have a
>>> clue.  On decent hardware OS/2 is definately more stable.  But
>>> OS/2 is useless if you have to run hardware that only has drivers
>>> for MS OS's and even more useless if you have to or want to run MS
>>> software.
>>
>>Isn't it possible that OS/2 was a flop?
>
>Oh sure of course.  Just because it had some nice features, doesn't mean that
>it had the correct mix to be attractive in the mass market.  Whether it would
>have flourished in a market not completely dominated by MS is purely a matter
>of conjecture.
>

OS/2 was NOT a flop.  IBM has good products but BAD marketing.

>>If I design a new OS that's utterly useless in terms of software support,
>>would I get the attention of some fathead US judge?
>>Probably not.  IBM would have far more contacts than me, though.  Far more .
>
>I haven't read the "findings of fact" myself, so I can only go by some of the
>articles I've read.  It appears that the judge found many instances wherein
MS
>used its market dominance to unfairly thwart competition.  OS/2 is mentioned
in
>some areas, but I don't know if OS/2 played much of a part in Judge Jackson's
>findings?

We will see.

>
>>If there is any kind of penalty imposed on Microsoft perhaps they could
>>diversify to BC; where we are also tired of this bogus government
>>intervention against success.  (After our present 'gov't' is gone, of
>>course).
>
>If MS was a foreign company, they would have been nailed years ago.
>

MS == Microsoft == Multiple Sclorosys
--
God Queen and Country                Member - Liberal International
Never Satan President and Republic   This is [e-mail]    Ici
[e-mail]
Society MUST be saved! Republics must dissolve.
LEst we forget on 11 Nov. 1999

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From: [e-mail]                                  10-Nov-99 15:53:20
  To: All                                               10-Nov-99 16:37:18
Subj: Re: Who runs this country?

From: [e-mail] (Stan Goodman)

On Wed, 10 Nov 1999 12:51:02, [e-mail] (The Doctor) wrote:

> In article <942217866.56827858@news>, Barry Adams  <[e-mail]>
wrote:
> >On Tue, 09 Nov 1999, Erik wrote:

------------snip-----------

> >>If there is any kind of penalty imposed on Microsoft perhaps they could
> >>diversify to BC; where we are also tired of this bogus government
> >>intervention against success.  (After our present 'gov't' is gone, of
> >>course).

You mean you think that a company can sit in Canada and run a business in
restraint of trade in the US?

------------snip-----------

-------------
Stan Goodman
Qiryat Tiv'on
Israel

Spammers are getting smarter; email sent to [e-mail] will not reach
me. Sorry.
Send E-mail to: domain: hashkedim dot com, username: stan.



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From: [e-mail]                              10-Nov-99 12:37:09
  To: All                                               10-Nov-99 16:37:18
Subj: chkdsk problems??

From: James Stotz <[e-mail]>

I'm trying to re-install our lan server on one of our computers.  But,
I'm having a problem with the lan fixpak.  It stops saying that there
are errors on the hard drive or the sel000.cfs is corrupt (or something
like that).  But, there are errors on the hard drive.  The /F command on

chkdsk doesn't work because c: is being used.  So I went to utility
disks, and everything seems O.K.  But, booting up again shows errors
again.  I quickly installed a version on my d: drive, and ran chkdsk
there.  I see the sys0552 and sys0562 errors.  I can run chkdsk c: /F,
and the errors disappear.  When I go back to the original (c:)
partition, the errors return.  I've reformated everything, installed it
and made sure everything was O.K., but as soon as I install Warp 4, the
errors come forth. I've done this many times before, but on this machine

(which worked once already) nothings doing.

Any help on how to permanently rid these errors from my system.  It
keeps saying it found lost data.

Thankx,

James Stotz
Physics Dept.
Simon Fraser University



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From: [e-mail]                             09-Nov-99 22:17:22
  To: All                                               10-Nov-99 20:03:07
Subj: Re: MicroSoft a Monopoly?!?!

From: "Doug Darrow" <[e-mail]>

On Mon, 08 Nov 1999 00:57:34 -0500, Bob Germer wrote:

>As much as I would like to say he was expelled, he wasn't. He is
>officially carried on Harvard's records as on leave of absence in good
>standing.
>
>Of course, Harvard may just be hoping he will drop some money on it.

It was only Papa's money (and political influence) that kept him on
their books 'in good standing.'


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From: [e-mail]                                  10-Nov-99 15:33:00
  To: All                                               10-Nov-99 20:03:07
Subj: Please HELP! Folder Class Object Problem with Warp4 - prize for anyone

From: Dave <[e-mail]>

Hello everyone!  Warp rules!

Anyway, here's the situation.  I installed InetPowerServer at one point,
didn't like it, and uninstalled.  Unfortunately, somewhere during this
time, IPS's folder classes borked or something and ALL my folders on my
system no longer have a "default view".  So in order to open a folder, I
must right click it, click the open ARROW, then click icon view...
double clicking doesnt work now!

Has anyone ever had this problem or know of a fix? (besides reinstall
OS/2) - would recreating os2.ini and os2sys.ini fix the problem?

For anyone who can help me through this, I will give you 50+ MB web/ftp
space on my T1 server.

THANKS!
-Dave
[e-mail]
http://warpedcow.tsx.org
Warpedcow on EFNET #os2warez

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From: [e-mail]                           10-Nov-99 20:45:08
  To: All                                               10-Nov-99 20:03:07
Subj: Re: UPDATE: Re: I can no longer live with OS/2

From: Matt Hickman <[e-mail]>

In article <[e-mail]>,
  Jonathan Seder <[e-mail]> wrote:

> Be careful - you should verify that you are running TCP/IP WR08620
> first.  nslookup in at least one old rev of TCP/IP trapped.

11-10-1999  14:24:49  SYS3175  PID 00ea  TID 0001  Slot 00bc
C:\TCPIP\BIN\NSLOOKUP.EXE
c0000005
1ed5a60b
P1=00000000  P2=ffffffff  P3=XXXXXXXX  P4=XXXXXXXX
EAX=00000000  EBX=00350250  ECX=ffffffff  EDX=00000001
ESI=00000000  EDI=2ba612a1
DS=0053  DSACC=d0f3  DSLIM=1fffffff
ES=0053  ESACC=d0f3  ESLIM=1fffffff
FS=150b  FSACC=00f3  FSLIM=00000030
GS=0000  GSACC=****  GSLIM=********
CS:EIP=005b:1ed5a60b  CSACC=d0df  CSLIM=1fffffff
SS:ESP=0053:0013ac34  SSACC=d0f3  SSLIM=1fffffff
EBP=0013ac38  FLG=00012286

SETLOC1.DLL 0001:0002a60b

I'm running WR08620 and getting a trap.   However, nslookup.exe
is in the \tcpip\bin not \mptn\bin dir.  WR08620 is an MPTS CSD.
Netfinity reports TCP/IP for Warp at version 4.00 and current
CSD level at UN00000_.

Is there a CSD for TCP/IP for Warp v 4.00????

--
Matt Hickman
I don't even see how a four-dimensional coffee cup
could even hold coffee, much less a whole galaxy.
              - Robert A. Heinlein (1907-1988)


Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.

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From: [e-mail]                               10-Nov-99 23:43:12
  To: All                                               10-Nov-99 21:35:27
Subj: Re: DoVolIO Error

From: Frank Stolpmann <[e-mail]>


>
> On Sat, 6 Nov 1999 10:27:35 GMT, Frank Stolpmann wrote:
>
> ->in the last few days my system hung several times due to an internal
> ->processing error:
> ->
> ->WtHF: DoVolIO Error
>
> Cut and paste your IFS=HPFS.IFS line into a post here.
>
>
> Trevor Hemsley, London, UK
> ([e-mail] or [e-mail])
>

Here is ts:

IFS=F:\OS2\HPFS.IFS /CACHE:2048 /CRECL:4 /AUTOCHECK:FIGJK




Bye.

Frank Stolpmann
[e-mail]
http://home.knuut.de/FStolpmann
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From: christian.hennecke@ruhr-uni-boch...               11-Nov-99 00:51:11
  To: All                                               10-Nov-99 21:35:27
Subj: Re: Please HELP! Folder Class Object Problem with Warp4 - prize for

Message sender: [e-mail]

From: Christian Hennecke <[e-mail]>

Dave schrieb:
>
> Hello everyone!  Warp rules!
>
> Anyway, here's the situation.  I installed InetPowerServer at one point,
> didn't like it, and uninstalled.  Unfortunately, somewhere during this
> time, IPS's folder classes borked or something and ALL my folders on my
> system no longer have a "default view".  So in order to open a folder, I
> must right click it, click the open ARROW, then click icon view...
> double clicking doesnt work now!
>
> Has anyone ever had this problem or know of a fix? (besides reinstall
> OS/2) - would recreating os2.ini and os2sys.ini fix the problem?

Maybe. Do you have a recent backup of these files?
If not you may try a REXX script that goes recursively through the trees
and sets the appropriate settings for the folders. On Hobbes is a
package called RECURSE.ZIP (in /pub/os2/util/wps) that can change lots
of settings for a folder and its subfolder by dragging the top folder
onto a special object. Otherwise you may try the following REXX together
with the RECURSE command from CmdPak (a free CMD.EXE extension) or a
similar shell command that recursively executes commands:

call RxFuncAdd 'SysLoadFuncs', 'RexxUtil', 'SysLoadFuncs'
call SysLoadFuncs

call SysSetObjectData directory(), 'DEFAULTVIEW=ICON';

Another possibility _may_ be to change the system default folder view to
something other than the current, reboot, change it back to what you
want and reboot again.

Good luck!

Christian Hennecke
--
Keep passing the open windows! ("The Hotel New Hampshire", John Irving)

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From: [e-mail]                          11-Nov-99 00:25:20
  To: All                                               10-Nov-99 21:35:27
Subj: Re: Please HELP! Folder Class Object Problem with Warp4 - prize for any

From: [e-mail] (Andrew Stephenson)

In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] "Dave"
exulted:

> Hello everyone!  Warp rules!

That's okay then.  You may live.  <g?>

> Anyway, here's the situation.  [...]  ALL my folders on my
> system no longer have a "default view".  [...]

Have you been into
  "OS/2 System"|"System Setp"|"System"|"Window (page 3 of 3)"
yet?
--
Andrew Stephenson

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From: [e-mail]                               10-Nov-99 20:00:21
  To: All                                               10-Nov-99 21:35:27
Subj: Re: Please HELP! Folder Class Object Problem with Warp4 - prize for

From: Brad BARCLAY <[e-mail]>

Dave wrote:
>
> Hello everyone!  Warp rules!

    It sure does :).

> Anyway, here's the situation.  I installed InetPowerServer at one point,
> didn't like it, and uninstalled.  Unfortunately, somewhere during this
> time, IPS's folder classes borked or something and ALL my folders on my
> system no longer have a "default view".  So in order to open a folder, I
> must right click it, click the open ARROW, then click icon view...
> double clicking doesnt work now!
>
> Has anyone ever had this problem or know of a fix? (besides reinstall
> OS/2) - would recreating os2.ini and os2sys.ini fix the problem?

    I haven't seen it before, but assuming you've installed and used
Feature Installer at least once in your OS/2-using career, the following
REXX script should help to fix things up for you:

-------------------------------[cut
here]-------------------------------------
/* Quick script to build WPObjData objects.           */
/* Written by Brad BARCLAY <[e-mail]>    */
call RxFuncAdd 'SysLoadFuncs', 'RexxUtil', 'SysLoadFuncs'
call SysLoadFuncs

/***************************************************/
/* Note:  be sure to set the following variable to */
/*        a drive letter visible to OS/2.          */
/*        Normally, C:\ should be just fine.       */
/***************************************************/
dir="C:\"

/***************************************************/
/* Note:  there is no need to change these two     */
/*        variables - they are defined for         */
/*        the sake of convienence.                 */
/***************************************************/
filename="FLDRMOD.BJB"
objname="<FOLDERFIX>"

/***************************************************/
/* Note:  the following variable may be set as     */
/*        follows:                                 */
/*                                                 */
/*        ICON       -  Opens in Icon View         */
/*        TREE       -  Opens in Tree View         */
/*        DETAILS    -  Opens in Details View      */
/*        DEFAULT    -  Opens in the classes       */
/*                      default view.              */
/***************************************************/
defview="ICON"

/***************************************************/
/* Program starts here...                          */
/***************************************************/
myrc=SysRegisterObjectClass("WPObjData", "OBJDATA")
myrc=SysCreateObject("WPObjData", filename, dir, "OBJECTID="||objname)
if myrc=0 then exit    /* Couldn't create the object */

myrc=LINEOUT(dir||filename, "DEFAULTVIEW="||defview)
myrc=LINEOUT(dir||filename)

myrc=SysMoveObject(objname, "<WP_DESKTOP>")
myrc=SysSetObjectData(objname, "TITLE=Drag and Drop Folders Here!")
exit
-------------------------------[cut
here]-------------------------------------

    Copy this to a file, and modify any of the variables that might need
changing (probably none of them, but one never knows :).  Save it to a
file on your hard drive (call it whatever you want - I called it
FLDFIX.CMD), and run it.

    This script alone won't fix your problem - HOWEVER it will create an
object on your desktop where you can drag and drop all of your folders
to (one a a time or many at once) which will set their default view to
"ICON" (unless you change the 'defview' variable as explained in the
REXX script).

    If you happen to have lots and lots and lots of folders on your system,
I can whip up either another script or a C program which will do all of
them for you, but this should at least get you started in fixing some of
your more important folders, and is good if only some folders are
broken, and not others.

    The following script is much more brutal :).  It will traverse every
subdirectory (folder) on the specified drive and give it the
"DEFAULTVIEW=ICON" (or whatever you specify) attribute:

-------------------------------[cut
here]-------------------------------------
/* Quick script to traverse and modify directories.*/
/* Written by Brad BARCLAY <[e-mail]>    */
call RxFuncAdd 'SysLoadFuncs', 'RexxUtil', 'SysLoadFuncs'
call SysLoadFuncs

parse arg drive

/***************************************************/
/* Note:  the following variable may be set as     */
/*        follows:                                 */
/*                                                 */
/*        ICON       -  Opens in Icon View         */
/*        TREE       -  Opens in Tree View         */
/*        DETAILS    -  Opens in Details View      */
/*        DEFAULT    -  Opens in the classes       */
/*                      default view.              */
/***************************************************/
defview="ICON"

/***************************************************/
/* Program starts here...                          */
/***************************************************/
"@dir" drive||"\ /AD /S /F | RXQUEUE"

DO FOREVER UNTIL QUEUED()=0
   PULL dir
   say "Modifing directory: "||dir
   rc=SysSetObjectData(dir, "DEFAULTVIEW="||defview)
   if rc=0 then say "Failed!"
end /* do */
exit

-------------------------------[cut
here]-------------------------------------

    Again, copy and save it however you wish (I call it FXALLFLD.CMD).
Specify the drive letter (with colon) as the only parameter, ie:

                fxallfld c:

    If you don't specify a drive letter, it will just assume the current
drive.  Run this command once for each drive letter you have, and it
should fix everything up in one fell swoop (note hwever that every
folder is going to have the exact same default - in tihs case ICON
view.  If you had any folders which had a different icon view, you'll
have to go back and change them manually.  Note however that this
shouldn't affect drive objects at all).

> For anyone who can help me through this, I will give you 50+ MB web/ftp
> space on my T1 server.

    Thanks, but I already have 5Gb on about 90Mb of bandwidth through
yaztromo.idirect.com on a WARP Server for e-business box, but it was
nice of you to offer :).

Brad BARCLAY

=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Posted from the OS/2 WARP v4.5 desktop of Brad BARCLAY.
E-Mail:  [e-mail]        Location:  2G43D@Torolabs

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From: [e-mail]                               10-Nov-99 20:11:12
  To: All                                               10-Nov-99 21:35:27
Subj: Re: Please HELP! Folder Class Object Problem with Warp4 - prize for

From: Brad BARCLAY <[e-mail]>

Christian Hennecke wrote:
> Otherwise you may try the following REXX together
> with the RECURSE command from CmdPak (a free CMD.EXE extension) or a
> similar shell command that recursively executes commands:

[...snip...]

    Just FYI, in case you didn't see my script in response to this users
query, in this case doing it recursively isn't going to buy you anything
but more processing and IO time to do the actual recursion.  In this
case, it would be easier to pipe the output of a DIR /AD /S /F through
RXQUEUE and PULL directories off the queue iteratively, and then run
SysSetObjectData against them.

    Best of all, with this solution you don't need any third-party tools or
utilities - RXQUEUE comes bundled with OS/2.

    Not meaning to critique your REXX capabilities - just a handy tip to
keep in mind if you didn't already know about it :)

Brad BARCLAY

=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Posted from the OS/2 WARP v4.5 desktop of Brad BARCLAY.
E-Mail:  [e-mail]        Location:  2G43D@Torolabs

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From: [e-mail]                             09-Nov-99 21:59:01
  To: All                                               10-Nov-99 21:35:27
Subj: Re: Bootos2 options

From: "Doug Darrow" <[e-mail]>

On Mon, 08 Nov 1999 10:37:40 -0500, Kenneth Kahn wrote:

>That's the easy part; you just require a universal translator.  You can
>pick one up
>in any Ferderation store.
>
>Ken Kahn - IBM P/390 Software Development (and BOOTOS2 Author)

"Doh!" [sound of hand smacking forehead0 "That's right! I'd completely
forgotten!"

(How is the world (universe) going to get along with Isaac gone?)


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From: [e-mail]                          11-Nov-99 07:40:19
  To: All                                               10-Nov-99 21:35:27
Subj: Re: Unwanted "Open as" entry - and removeal thereof

From: "Wayne Bickell" <[e-mail]>

On Wed, 10 Nov 1999 14:11:18 GMT, Buddy Donnelly wrote:

:>Now that you've removed an association, look through ASSOEDIT's fields and
:>you'll probably notice some other things you can remove, or add, to improve
:>your system's functionality.

Yep, sometimes don't know what I'd do without it! Can't stand those 'Open As'
menus that sometimes have double entries, one to the program object and
one with the full path to the program executable. I've been through almost
every entry putting them right. Although they should have been right in the
first place!

Cheers

Wayne


******************************************************
Wayne Bickell
Tokyo, Japan
[e-mail]
******************************************************
           Posted with PMINews 2 for OS/2
  Running on OS/2 Warp 4 (UK)  + FixPak 9
******************************************************



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From: [e-mail]                               11-Nov-99 00:08:03
  To: All                                               11-Nov-99 03:54:24
Subj: Re: A clip from DOJ judge on OS/2

From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Bj=F8rn?= Vermo <[e-mail]>

Jim Nuytens wrote:

> On Sun, 7 Nov 1999 21:40:40, [e-mail] (Glen D)
> wrote:
>
> >
> > Hasn'y anyone seen the article on WarpCast about rumours of an Aurora
> > client?
> >
>
> And that's about all it is. I'll believe it when I see it; not before.
>

Take a look at the IBM Software website, then. A client license for WSeB is
some 50 USD for each additional client. You must of course have the server
in the first place, to install from.

For stand-alone, somebody at IBM said a year ago that they did not plan any
new client until version 5, while they planned an intermediate server.
Since WSeB is at version 4.5, it looks like they spoke the truth about
that.


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From: [e-mail]                               11-Nov-99 00:29:26
  To: All                                               11-Nov-99 03:54:24
Subj: Re: Fdisk and 3rd hard drive

From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Bj=F8rn?= Vermo <[e-mail]>

[e-mail] wrote:

> In <[e-mail]>, David Gillespie
<[e-mail]> writes:
> ><!doctype html public "-//w3c//dtd html 4.0 transitional//en">
> ><html>
> >I recently installed a third hard drive, a WD 13gig on a Warp 4 system.
> >I partitioned it and formatted the partitions HPFS. The problem is,
> >I want to add one of the partitions to the bootmanager menu but Fdisk will
> >not let me.

...

>
> Only the 1st partition could be added to the boot manager, and then only if
> that 1st partition used less than x number of cylinders.  I can't remember
if
> that was less than 1024, or 2048 cylinders.  It was one or the other, or 500
> megs on the 8.4, Maxtor and same for the 10.1 gig IBM drive.
>

I just installed a WSeB test system on an old Siemens Xpert with a new IBM
Datastar 13GB in it,
and got a new reminder of why I always prefer to use SCSI drives. I had
planned to make two
bootable logical volumes of 300MB each, but had to reduce the first to 200MB
to stay within the
limit. A newer BIOS might have upped this limit, but it was OK for my needs.
The rest of the disk
works just fine as one largeish partition, although some old programs see it
as rather smallish.


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From: [e-mail]                               11-Nov-99 00:47:10
  To: All                                               11-Nov-99 03:54:24
Subj: Re: OS/2 appl. unter linux or Windows/NT

From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Bj=F8rn?= Vermo <[e-mail]>

Michael Wagner wrote:

>
> is there a possibility to run os/2 appl (32Bit). under linux, win9x or NT.

No, notunder any of them.

> -OS/2 as desktop platform is death! I have this info from IBM directly.

If you find somebody else within IBM,you might get more constructive help. IBM
is not a monolithic company, and people within different parts of it will see
both problems and possibilities quite differently.

>
> vmware dose not support os2 yet(if enough interested party are asking for
> vmware will build in the os/2 support),
> bochs doese also not support os2 (I've no statement from bochs at present).
> .
> is there something else?.

OS/2 is the only platform which will be able to do this within a year or so.
Depending on the type of program, it can be more orless difficult to get a
Linux program running under OS/2. Many are already available. Because of the
more limited  threading model under POSIX-systems like Linux and UNIX,
performance is likely to be a problem with many OS/2 programs ported to that
platform.

If Netlabs do well with project Odin, most Win32 programs should soon be
useable under OS/2. Their approach uses more Windows APIs rewritten in native
code than the Linux solution, so it is likely to perform much better. Besides,
the OS/2 threading model is more compatible with the one in NT.

In a big company, WSOD with a Citrix server is probably the best short-term
solution for OS/2 and Win32 programs.


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From: [e-mail]                                   11-Nov-99 06:50:16
  To: [e-mail], bstephan@r..               11-Nov-99 03:54:24
Subj: Re: Unattended Shutdown

To: [e-mail], [e-mail]
From: "Sergey N. Antipov" <[e-mail]>

May You please provide me with some details? What is "Ctrl-Alt-Del
Commander"? If utility, please post an URL. If tuninig, please detail.
Seems that this is what I am looking for.
Sergey.


[e-mail] wrote:

> In <[e-mail]>, on 11/08/99
>    at 08:32 AM, Sergey Antipov <[e-mail]> said:
>
> >Please help me to find an utility to shutdown OS/2 Warp 3 in
> >unattended mode, i.e. from batch file, with no one pressing "Yes"
> >button during
>
> I have configured Ctrl-Alt-Del Commander to close all my programs
> that want a "Yes" answer so I can shut down without those
> interruptions.
>
> --
> -----------------------------------------------------------
> Bob Stephan [e-mail] or [e-mail]
>   Happily using OS/2 Warp on the Central California Coast.
>    http://www.redshift.com/~bstephan
> -----------------------------------------------------------

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From: [e-mail]                          11-Nov-99 05:24:27
  To: All                                               11-Nov-99 03:54:24
Subj: Re: MicroSoft a Monopoly?!?!

From: [e-mail] (Buddy Donnelly)

On Wed, 10 Nov 1999 06:17:45, "Doug Darrow" <[e-mail]> a ┌crit
dans un message:

> On Mon, 08 Nov 1999 00:57:34 -0500, Bob Germer wrote:
>
> >As much as I would like to say he was expelled, he wasn't. He is
> >officially carried on Harvard's records as on leave of absence in good
> >standing.
> >
> >Of course, Harvard may just be hoping he will drop some money on it.
>
> It was only Papa's money (and political influence) that kept him on
> their books 'in good standing.'

And it was very ironic that he (and his wife, his "better" half for real?)
donated big bucks this year to the United Negro College Fund. Their motto?
"A Mind Is A Terrible Thing To Waste."

Even the worst of us can serve as somebody else's Bad Example.


--

Good luck,

Buddy

Buddy Donnelly
[e-mail]


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From: [e-mail]                          11-Nov-99 05:03:11
  To: All                                               11-Nov-99 03:54:25
Subj: Re: Microsoft findings on CDROM

From: [e-mail] (Buddy Donnelly)

On Wed, 10 Nov 1999 16:20:23, [e-mail] a ┌crit dans un message:

snipt
>
> I have not yet linked to the home page. It is at
> http://www.quietvision.com/download/sample.zip

Is this available now? I'm getting a server intercept on that URL.


>
> The one complaint I have had on the interface was from a MS Engineer.
> He said the standards (I guess from a MS heavenly revelation) required
> that to start a read of an audio file required using a
> ctl-alt-esc-upshift-left arrow-tab-R (or somthing to that effect).
> I tried to explain to him when a 2 1/2 could run it himself just
> knowing (after his Dad put the CD in the drive) where the "r" key
> and the "page down" key were that was a good interface. The final
> decision was I refunded his money and left him with a suggestion of where
> all those keys could be put to good use using a manual insertion
> technique.

I like all of that. You should write some original stuff.

>
> >
> >I'm curious about printing, 'cause I don't see it mentioned. Do I have to
> >read these books on the screen, only?
> >
> None, the reason is copyrights. Even on old material there are problems
> in this area. N.C.Wyeth's Illustration of Treasure Island was about
> 1913, therefore out of copyright in the U.S. But I am making
> arrangements to use the Brandywine Museum's transparencies of the
> originals and will pay for the right to do so. In many cases where the
> author left his rights to charity (such as Peter Pan) we honor the
> author's intent even when we do not have to. So no printing.

Hm. I'm not current on that type of restriction on printing public domain
stuff. The act of publishing, legally, is to simply show it to one other
person, not to also facilitate further showings. (Though I'm not a lawyer,
I know someone who has played one on teevee.)


>
> >And is the text 100% boolean searchable somehow, or do you keyword index it
> >yourself?
> Dynamic Character pattern or phrase. index built at run time. Not full
> boolean. Our main market is primary and secondary schools. We keep things
> simple. I do have one person doing a doctoral study on DIckens using this
> feature. There maybe others with unique uses but unless I hear from
> them.....

Nope, the literature of the world needs to land on 100% boolean searchable
digital databses. That's where scholars and numbnutz like myself will be
able to make connections between the wisdoms that never were connectable
before, in less than otherworldly brainpans.

But you've made a good start, especially with the Tom Swift stuff. I wasn't
aware the copyright had lapsed on that.

>
> >We need *more* people around here who are using OS/2 to make a living, not
> >less.
> >
> Be sure Quiet Vision does not use OS/2 because of love of the product.It
> is a down and dirty financial decision. It is cheeper to developed under
> and use OS/2 than Windows.

That's even better. It's why I use it, it's simply better than everything
else that meets all the same requirements.

--

Good luck,

Buddy

Buddy Donnelly
[e-mail]


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From: [e-mail]                                11-Nov-99 00:39:01
  To: All                                               11-Nov-99 03:54:25
Subj: Re: Please HELP! Folder Class Object Problem with Warp4 - prize for

From: Jim Parker <[e-mail]>

Dave wrote:

> Hello everyone!  Warp rules!
>
> Anyway, here's the situation.  I installed InetPowerServer at one point,
> didn't like it, and uninstalled.  Unfortunately, somewhere during this
> time, IPS's folder classes borked or something and ALL my folders on my
> system no longer have a "default view".  So in order to open a folder, I
> must right click it, click the open ARROW, then click icon view...
> double clicking doesnt work now!
>
> Has anyone ever had this problem or know of a fix? (besides reinstall
> OS/2) - would recreating os2.ini and os2sys.ini fix the problem?
>
> For anyone who can help me through this, I will give you 50+ MB web/ftp
> space on my T1 server.
>
> THANKS!
> -Dave
> [e-mail]
> http://warpedcow.tsx.org
> Warpedcow on EFNET #os2warez

If the scripts offered don't help try this:

1. Right click on a folder
2. select properties
3. select menu tab
4. select "~Open as" from the "Available menus" list and press properties
5. pick your "Default Action"

If this works, repeat for all folders in your system. Yeech, there's got to
be a better way.

Jim


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From: [e-mail]                                11-Nov-99 00:46:09
  To: [e-mail]                                  11-Nov-99 03:54:25
Subj: Re: Please HELP! Folder Class Object Problem with Warp4 - prize for

To: [e-mail]
From: Jim Parker <[e-mail]>

Dave wrote:

> Hello everyone!  Warp rules!
>
> Anyway, here's the situation.  I installed InetPowerServer at one point,
> didn't like it, and uninstalled.  Unfortunately, somewhere during this
> time, IPS's folder classes borked or something and ALL my folders on my
> system no longer have a "default view".  So in order to open a folder, I
> must right click it, click the open ARROW, then click icon view...
> double clicking doesnt work now!
>
> Has anyone ever had this problem or know of a fix? (besides reinstall
> OS/2) - would recreating os2.ini and os2sys.ini fix the problem?
>
> For anyone who can help me through this, I will give you 50+ MB web/ftp
> space on my T1 server.
>
> THANKS!
> -Dave
> [e-mail]
> http://warpedcow.tsx.org
> Warpedcow on EFNET #os2warez

Yes, I think there is a better way.

Go to OS/2 System->System Setup->Window tab page 3 of 3 and select Default
Folder View of choice.

Jim



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From: [e-mail]                             10-Nov-99 22:53:10
  To: All                                               11-Nov-99 03:54:25
Subj: VPN

From: Daniel Tulloch <[e-mail]>

Anyone know of a VPN client for OS/2 compatible or equivalent to
CheckPoint's VPN client?

Thanks,

Dan

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From: [e-mail]                               11-Nov-99 05:35:05
  To: All                                               11-Nov-99 03:54:25
Subj: Re: Ensoniq 1373 Driver for Warp?

From: [e-mail]

In article <[e-mail]>,
  [e-mail] wrote:
>
>
> [e-mail] wrote:
>
> > I've found an OS/2 driver for the Ensoniq 1371 sound system, but my
pc
> > has Ensoniq 1373.  OS/2 refuses to recognize the 1371 driver.
>
> Damn ! There goes the next thing I am gonna try.
>
> > Does anyone know where one can get an OS/2 Ensoniq 1373 driver, or
what
> > other driver, especially one supported by Warp 4, is compatible with
> > the card.  I've tried installing several of the Sound Blaster
drivers
> > without success.
>
> Same here. It seems only the SB16D2.sys gives some feedback: 'error
> encountered when resetting soundblaster 16'. Do you have the same
message ?

No, depending on the SB driver I try to use, either config.sys doesn't
recognize the DEVICE line, or the machine hangs hopelessly until I go
through the hassle of editing config.sys.
>
> I'm trying to run a Creative SoundBlaster 16 PCI 'CT4740', chipset
ES1373.
> I bet you have the same card. Bought the bugger last weekend.
> I am sure somebody in an os/2 newsgroup was saying this runs OK with
Warp,
> otherwise I would not have shortlisted it. (AND there is nothing on
the
> Creative website on the SB16-PCI).
> So the thing will work, one day (gnashing of teeth).
>
> I'll be back with more news,
>
> Wim Wauters.
>
>


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From: [e-mail]                               11-Nov-99 05:40:16
  To: All                                               11-Nov-99 03:54:25
Subj: Re: CDRW

From: [e-mail]

In article <807q8l$695$[e-mail]>,
  [e-mail] (John Hong) wrote:
>     For anyone looking into buying a CDRW at a not too expensive
> price, really ought to check out the Ricoh 7040 model.  It is a 4x
write,
> 4x re-write, 20x read CDRW.  Thing is, and this is the best part,
from
> what I have been reading (someone in a Linux newsgroup posted this)
that
> Ricoh has a firmware update for the 7040 line that actually makes it
into
> a 6x write, 4x re-write, and I think 24x read.

But is there an OS/2 driver for it?  I installed an HP8200i, and
apparently the only OS/2 driver for it is costly, and from a company
called, I think, RSJ.  The Windows 98 partition on my machine, where
the CDRW is fully supported, allows me to get around most of the
consequences of not having an OS/2 driver.
>
>


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From: [e-mail]                             11-Nov-99 16:50:20
  To: All                                               11-Nov-99 03:54:25
Subj: Warpcenter gone :(   Where on the CD?

From: Greg Thomas <[e-mail]>

I seem to have lost WarpCenter. I got some useful advice about how to
enable the program on boot up which led me to the conclusion that it
isn't there to be run...

Can someone tell me how to extract it from the WARP4 CD so that I can
use it again. I am only just starting to get used to using WARP. Isn't
it always the way you are forced to learn about an OS ;')

Greg


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From: [e-mail]                    11-Nov-99 06:50:05
  To: All                                               11-Nov-99 03:54:25
Subj: Re: CDRW

From: [e-mail] (John Hong)

[e-mail] wrote:

: But is there an OS/2 driver for it?  I installed an HP8200i, and
: apparently the only OS/2 driver for it is costly, and from a company
: called, I think, RSJ.  The Windows 98 partition on my machine, where
: the CDRW is fully supported, allows me to get around most of the
: consequences of not having an OS/2 driver.

    CDRecord/2, works fine with it...provided it is the SCSI version.
CDRecord/2 is free, BTW.

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From: [e-mail]                                 10-Nov-99 23:15:28
  To: All                                               11-Nov-99 10:44:23
Subj: Re: Who runs this country?

From: "Erik" <[e-mail]>

Stan Goodman wrote:

[e-mail] (The Doctor) wrote:
>
> > In article <942217866.56827858@news>, Barry Adams  <[e-mail]>
wrote:
> > >On Tue, 09 Nov 1999, Erik wrote:
>
> ------------snip-----------
>
> > >>If there is any kind of penalty imposed on Microsoft perhaps they
could
> > >>diversify to BC; where we are also tired of this bogus government
> > >>intervention against success.  (After our present 'gov't' is gone, of
> > >>course).


> You mean you think that a company can sit in Canada and run a business in
> restraint of trade in the US?

1: You need to learn how those little >>> attribution thingies work.  I
wrote the above; not 'The Doctor', or 'Barry Adams'.

2: You need to recognize that Canada is not yet conjoined with the US.

3: You might mail-order a dictionary and look up 'sarcasm'.

Nighty-night.

E.Schild
[e-mail]




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From: [e-mail]                                  11-Nov-99 09:21:24
  To: All                                               11-Nov-99 10:44:23
Subj: Re: Who runs this country?

From: [e-mail] (Stan Goodman)

On Thu, 11 Nov 1999 07:15:56, "Erik" <[e-mail]> wrote:

>
> Stan Goodman wrote:
> > ------------snip-----------


> > > >>If there is any kind of penalty imposed on Microsoft perhaps they
> could
> > > >>diversify to BC; where we are also tired of this bogus government
> > > >>intervention against success.  (After our present 'gov't' is gone, of
> > > >>course).
>
>
> > You mean you think that a company can sit in Canada and run a business in
> > restraint of trade in the US?
>
> 1: You need to learn how those little >>> attribution thingies work.  I
> wrote the above; not 'The Doctor', or 'Barry Adams'.

Sorry. I knew who wrote it; you were the only one with a Canadian email
address.

> 2: You need to recognize that Canada is not yet conjoined with the US.

No, that is clear to me: Canada can permit any sort of commercial abuse it
wants to within its territory. What is less clear is how Microsoft, having
fled to Canada to avoid US antitrust action, would survive with the US
market denied to it. Any company doing business in the US is subject to US
law. Maybe you need to understand that a company doing business outside its
home country is subject to the laws of the place in which it is doing
business.

> 3: You might mail-order a dictionary and look up 'sarcasm'.

?

-------------
Stan Goodman
Qiryat Tiv'on
Israel

Spammers are getting smarter; email sent to [e-mail] will not reach
me. Sorry.
Send E-mail to: domain: hashkedim dot com, username: stan.



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From: [e-mail]                    11-Nov-99 11:57:15
  To: All                                               11-Nov-99 10:44:24
Subj: (1/2) Backup & Defragmentation 3.5

From: [e-mail] (John Hong)

                  Backup & Defragmentation 3.5

     This is just a little primer drawn up in order to help OS/2
users to use common compression utilities such as PkZip for backing
up their OS/2 drives.  Another use for this is also to fight
against fragmentation.  OS/2's HPFS file system does not fragment
like the way FAT drives do, but it does become susceptible to it
when the drive is almost full.  So, the best remedy is to backup
the data, format the partition, then unarchive the backup back to
the original partition and you are back in business.
     Prior to doing this, be sure to create boot disks in order to
compress/uncompress the backup files.  You can use either the
Create Utility Diskettes option in OS/2's System Folder or (a
better option) use BootOS/2 in order to make them.  BootOS/2 in
particular is more advantageous since it would only need two 3.5"
1.44 MB diskettes over the three needed by OS/2 Warp 3 & Connect
and the four for OS/2 Warp 4.  Plus, one can also use LxLite
compression with BootOS/2 in order to save that little extra bit of
disk space necessary.  As well, you can probably use it for an
LS-120 or ZIP disk whereas the Utility Diskettes option would not
support it.  BootOS/2 can be found at the Hobbes OS/2 Archive
(http://hobbes.nmsu.edu).  LxLite can be found at LEO
(http://www.leo.org) and possibly also at Hobbes.
     I'm sure some will ask, "But John, what about PowerQuest's
Drive Image or Norton's Ghost?"  Well, there really is no problem
with those programs.  They do as advertised, they backup the hard
drive into an image.  That image can be restored onto a single
machine (or if you have the Drive Image Pro) onto a network of
multiple machines.  Unfortunately, the problem with disk imaging
programs like those is that they do absolutely nothing about the
fragmentation of the file system.  Keep in mind, programs like
Drive Image and Ghost simply make a *mirror* image of the hard
drive's partitions.  This means that not only does it copy the
data, but also the holes that whatever file system left behind
after days, months, years, etc. of disk thrashing.  In a nut shell,
Drive Image and Ghost not only copy the hard drive data, but also
the fragmentation of the file system.  This is where this little
primer really comes into play.  Of course, the advantage with
something like Drive Image Pro is the ability to restore onto a
multitude of networked computers.  Something that would be a pretty
big pain in the butt by this method.

     EXTRA: It is a good idea to make your backups booting through
your bootdisks since there maybe locked files that won't be
compressed.  Locked files are files that are currently in use by
OS/2 and will not allow any kind of manipulation from the user to
take place.
     EXTRA EXTRA: Before making a backup, it maybe a good idea to
run CHKDSK from the bootable floppies first.  Another thing, make
sure you run CHKDSK (CHKDSK X: /F:2) twice in a row.  I picked up
this little tidbit from the "OS/2 Warp Unleashed" book by SAMS
Publishing (fine book, BTW).  It is found in Chapter 18, dealing
with troubleshooting on page 941:

     "Note that if you running HPFS, then you should periodically
     run CHKDSK C: /F:2 twice.  The first pass checks and cleans
     the primary HPFS structures, and the second pass checks and
     clears the secondary HPFS structures."

     BTW: When I say it was tested personally under an OS/2
system, it means that I had tested it under a bootable OS/2
partition and not just a partition with data on it.

     DISCLAIMER: The only guarentee that I can possibly give is
that the methods here work on the systems that I have tested.  All
bets are off for OS/2 Warp for e-Business I'm afraid since I do not
have that.  I no longer have OS/2 Warp 4 anymore, either (sold
that).  I'm strictly running OS/2 Warp Connect, but I don't expect
much to be different from OS/2 Warp 4 though.  Basically the same
kernel and filesystem afterall.  It is with OS/2 Warp for e-
Business that is a little different since its kernel no longer has
that memory addressing limitation and uses a different method of
organizing its file system due to the addition of JFS.

     Updates:

     * Added DISCLAIMER
     * RAR/2 2.60
     * ARJ/2 2.62
     * Windows 95 - FAT32
     * BootOS/2 9.26

     To Do List:

     * Testing ARJ/2 2.6x once it gets out of beta.  Just
     wondering, has there been any progress with this lately?  ARJ
     is now at v2.70.


                *NEWS* Warp for e-Business *NEWS*

     Okay, now that you've seent this, I have read of a user on
Usenet trying to use RAR/2 2.50 in order to backup their Warp for
e-Business partition.  It didn't work, apparently the EA's were
trashed.  Possibly this may have something to do with the new LVM
and JFS.  I don't know since I do not have Warp for e-Business, and
thus have no way of verifying.  So at this point in time it is best
not to try using any of these methods for backing up Warp for
e-Business.
     In the event if anyone is successful, please email me ASAP and
give me the details.


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Overall
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Compression    | Disk Spanning | Requires PM |  Recovery | EA's |
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PkZip/2 2.50   |      Yes      |     Yes     |    Yes    |  Yes |
Info-Zip 2.22  |      No       |      No     |    Yes    |  Yes |
RAR/2 2.60     |      Yes      |      No     |    Yes    |  Yes |
ARJ/2 2.62 Beta|      Yes      |      No     |    Yes    |   No |
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Disk Spanning: Ability to support multiple archives.  Basically
     once the disk or cartridge is full, it can ask the user to
     insert another disk or cartridge in order for it continue.
     A Yes is good.
Requires PM: Does the compression program require the PM,
     Presentation Manager.  This is OS/2's GUI.  A no is a good
     answer since it would be impossible to boot OS/2 up with
     regular floppies with the PM (unless it was a ZIP/LS-120
     booting with A: drive).
Recovery: Ability to recover/fix a corrupt archive, ie. PkZipFix.
     A yes here is a good answer.  If the file is corrupt you can
     at least salvage something from it.
EA's: Ability to save OS/2's Extended Attributes.  A yes here is
     a must for OS/2.
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Info-Zip for OS/2 (v2.22)
http://www.cdrom.com/pub/infozip/

     Works very well under OS/2.  Use the following switches:

zip -rS$ (destination/name of backup) *

example:

zip -rS$ F:\BACKUP.ZIP *

     Stick unzip.exe onto your OS/2 bootdisks, to restore the
drive simply:

unzip (name of backup)

example:

C: (being where I want it unzipped)
unzip F:\BACKUP.ZIP

     Info-Zip is fine if you are just going to back it up to
another partition or have a removable media drive large enough to
fit it.  Currently, Info-Zip is not able to handle disk spanning.
It is a future feature to be added according to their home webpage
when 3.0 comes out.

     Personally tested under a Warp 4 system (no FP's).

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PkZip for OS/2 (v2.50)
http://www.pkware.com

     Another that works well under OS/2.  Perhaps a little better
than Info-Zip since PkZip does handle disk spanning.  Use the
following switch:

pkzip /add /attr=all /dir=full /rec /volume=(drive letter)
       (destination/name of backup) *

example:

pkzip /add /attr=all /dir=full /rec /volume=C F:\BACKUP.ZIP *

     To enable disk spanning, add the /span switch before the
/volume one.
     Take note, use pkzip.exe, do not use pkzip2.cmd or else it
will simply fail and just zip up the volume label in a file
called "all.zip".

     Now to uncompress the archive, simply go:

pkzip /attr=all /dir=full /extract /mask=none /rec /volume=C
      (destination/name of backup)

example:

pkzip /attr=all /dir=full /extract /mask=none /rec /volume=C F:\BACKUP.ZIP C:

     Personally tested under a Warp 4 system (no FP's).

     Extra Note: Apparently the geniuses at PkWare designed PkZip
for OS/2 needing the Presentation Manager.  So, using the boot
disks from the Create Utility Disks function will not work.  The
only way for BootOS/2 to get this to work is with the TYPE=PM
option.  This of course will require a bootable device large
enough to handle the extra data.  So really you are going to need
a bootable ZIP or LS-120 device in order to get this working.
With that said, you can use unzip.exe in order to uncompress the
pkzipped files.  But, that has a problem too.  Currently UnZip
5.40 will not be able to unzip multiple archives (like Zip 2.22).
This is slated for the next major release (UnZip 6.00).

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*UPDATED*

RAR for OS/2 (v2.60)
http://www.rarsoft.com

     So much for easiest. :-(

     The folks behind RAR are now combining the OS/2 and DOS
versions together.  Now that is not the problem I have with it, it
is the fact that they are no longer going to provide a text-based
shell for RAR does.  After a couple of people emailed RARSOFT, the
response they got back was that they have no intention of putting
in a text-based shell anymore.  So, RAR is relegated back to the
rest of the command line utilities.  Pity.  It was a terrific and
easy compression utility to use.  I have kept the v2.50
instructions for anyone who still plans to use it, but be warned,
there are some fixes that v2.60 brings that people maybe interested
in.  Here are the most notable fixes:

1. Both compression and speed have been improved for RAR archives.
My thanks to Alexander Khoroshev and Bulat Ziganshin for hints,
which allowed me to achieve this.

<snip>

4. Previous RAR versions were not able to handle single files and
archives larger than 2 GB. This limitation does not exist any
more for RAR archives.  The new limitation is slightly more than
8,589,934,591 GB, that practically means "unlimited".  Note that
Win-95/98 file systems cannot handle files larger than 4 GB, you
need to use NTFS to work with such files.

This improvement is valid only for RAR archives, 4 GB limitation
for ZIP archives is not changed.

5. Significantly increased speed of scanning for large numbers of
files before archiving operations. Memory management also is
optimized, so now it is possible to handle hundreds of thousands,
or even millions of files.  WinRAR has been succesfully tested
with over million files.

6. Console RAR shows the total percentage of processed data when
archiving instead of the current file percentage as before.

     What is worse is that the RAR.TXT console manual is only
distributed in the WinRAR 2.60 for Windows 95/98 file.  I am just
wondering if they are that intent on killing their DOS and OS/2
user base, but anyways...

     I have yet to get this to work unfortunately. :-(

     I tried this to backup my OS/2 boot drive (C:).

C:\
rar32 a -m0 -r f:\test.rar

     It always comes out as "WARNING: No files added".  Funny thing
is, if I am in a directory it works.  Like this:

C:\UTILS
rar32 a -r f:\test.rar

     Anything in my UTILS directory such as FM2UTILS will be
archived properly.

C:\UTILS\FM2UTILS
        \CDRECORD
        \ETC

     All that is compressed.  Yet the thing is, if I am present in
my C:\, then the warning message alluded to earlier will always
appear.  Did I miss anything?


*OLD*

RAR for OS/2 (v2.50)

     Easiest one to use due to its Norton Commander-like
interface.  Go into RAR's configuration (press F9, it is the
first item on the menu) and make sure the following are checked
on:

     X - Always Solid Archiving
     X - Put Recovery Record

     X - Read Only
     X - Hidden
     X - System
     X - Archive

     X - Save extended attributes

     It could also be a good idea to check on multimedia
compression in order to get better compression.  The rest is
merely of choice, especially the compression (six methods to
choose) whether to be for the best compression (slowest) or no
compression at all in simply storing the files (fastest).
     In order to backup your OS/2 drive, simply hit the "+" key and
push enter in order to highlight all the directories (or select
whichever one's you intend to backup).  Push F5 in order to
compress onto a disk/cart and use Autodetect method in order
to ensure spanning across disks/carts (or you can specify exactly
what size you want).  Very easy.

     Take Note: Do not use "UNRAR.EXE" to restore!  Otherwise you
     will get a "Desktop can not be found in OS2.INI file,
     attempting to create Temporary Desktop" error message, where
     the Temperary Desktop will also fail, leaving you sitting at
     the PM with one OS/2 Window session.

     In order to restore, place RAR.EXE onto the OS/2 bootable
diskettes.  Start RAR.EXE up, now go to wherever you have the
file backed up to, enter it, this will allow you view the files
that are compressed inside the archived file.  Once that is done,
hit the "+" key and press enter in order to highlight all the
files.  Now, press ALT-F4 in order to restore by choosing the
destination.  Simply put in "C:" or wherever your original boot
partition was.  Once all of it extracted, there you go.  I think we
have a winner.

     Personally tested under a Warp 4 system (no FP's) and a Warp
3 system (FP40 applied).

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ARJ/2 (v2.62) *UPDATE*
http://hobbes.nmsu.edu

     I confess that I have not yet tested ARJ/2, but I wouldn't
recommend using it just yet since it is still in a beta stage,
and does not save EA's.  But you could use EAUTIL in order to do
this for you, but that is a bit of a chore especially since the
other compression utilities here can do this automatically.  So
what would be the point?

     What's the point?  Well, it looks like there is quite a good
point now that RAR/2 has changed a bit.  I am guilty of letting
ARJ/2 go by the wayside.  Hopefully I can make ammends by getting
off my lazy duff and trying to figure out a way to get ARJ/2
working in this manner of B&D.  Now, as I said earlier ARJ/2 is

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From: [e-mail]                    11-Nov-99 11:57:15
  To: All                                               11-Nov-99 10:44:24
Subj: (2/2) Backup & Defragmentation 3.5

still in beta and does not save extended attributes.  The EA's are
as you know a pretty big deal for where OS/2 is concerned.  Luckily
there was help well before the ARJ/2 port was even started.
EABACKUP & EARESTORE, two programs which make up EABK203.ZIP which
can be downloaded from Hobbes.  These utilities date way back to
1994!  Their sole purpose of being is to backup/restore OS/2's
extended attributes.
     Before I get started, be sure you use v2.61 and not v2.62, I
remember getting an email from the guy making the port.  He stated
that there is a bug with v2.62, problem is I can't remember for the
life of me on what that even was.  I think it had something to do
with the length of characters on a HPFS file name.  So, best use
v2.61 for now.  You will also noticed that there is a LX compressed
version available for download from Hobbes.  Good idea to nab that
one in order to stick onto the bootdisks.

     To backup OS/2, assuming your OS/2 drive is C: drive, run
ARJ/2:

arj a -a1 -b2 -jf -js -r -vvas X:/BACKUP.ARJ C:

     It will then go into its own command shell, just type in exit
and it will start packing away.
     To adjust compression method, the syntax is -m<0-4>.  0 is for
no compression (just storing), 1 is actually the best compression
which is the default.  2-4 being lower, 4 beingt the fastest
offering the least amount of compression.  Now, there is a way to
add build protection (-hk) but I would strongly recommend against
it.  I suppose this is like RAR/2's adding recovery record, but a
warning to anyone using it, it takes forever just to complete.  The
(-va) is to enable the autodetection disk spanning.  You can
specify the amount if you wish (eg. -v1440 for 1.44 MB floppies).
     Now, to backup the EA's:

EABACKUP C: X: /S

     This will create two files on the X: drive, [e-mail] and
[e-mail].  Now you can format the C: drive.  To restore, run:

arj x X:/BACKUP.ARJ C: -vv -y

     Don't forget to restore the EA's!

EARESTOR X: C: /S

     Now you are set, reboot and everything should now be working.

     Personally tested under a Warp 3 system (FP39 applied).

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Note: I only intend to write about currently supported compression
utilities.  In otherwords, LHA and ZOO for instance I simply will
ignore.  Neither one has been updated since 1989-1993, and are
relatively old and obsolete given the others listed here.


Windows 95 - FAT32 (http://www.microsoft.com) - *UPDATED*

     So, you want to just dump OS/2 forever and head off into
merry merry Windows 95 land?  Well, I have not had the
opportunity to try this using Windows 95 on a VFAT partition,
but under FAT32, there is simply no way you can backup a
Windows 95 partition using stuff like PkZip for Windows or
WinRAR.  The problem is that there are certain locked files
at play.  PkZip for Windows did complete, but now you have the
even bigger problem of trying to restore it from a bootdisk.
Won't happen, I'm afraid.  When I tried this booting off of a
Windows 95 boot disk, running PkZip 2.50's PkUnZip utility, it
would not work because it complained of a lack of memory
(apparently the FAT32 support on the bootdisk takes up a lot
of memory as I'm always stuck with 542k conventional RAM).
The last hope was RAR for DOS, but that too also complained of
a lack of memory.  So, what's the point of using a Windows
compression utility in order to backup the entire Windows 95
partition if there is absolutely *NO* way of restoring it?
     Now, where exactly am I going with all this?  Simple,
thanks to the great FAT32 driver written by Henk Kelder, one
can actually follow the exact methods listed here with the
various compression utilities in order for OS/2 to backup
Windows 95 through OS/2!  Using RAR/2 in the identical manner
listed earlier will allow you to backup a Windows 95 partition.
Once backed up, you can boot up with the Windows 95 bootdisk
and then format the partition, re-boot back into OS/2 and use
RAR/2 in order to restore the Windows 95 partition back to
its previous state.  Now when you look at the disk with Norton
Speedisk or booting Windows 95 up with a bootdisk in order to
use ScanDisk (to see the entire disk information) you will see
all the clusters neatly arranged in perfect order.  No
fragmentation!  The advantage to using this method over using
programs like Microsoft Defrag or Norton Speedisk is that they
are not always perfect and can in fact at some times break
files.  My motivation in going to all of this trouble was
because after using Defrag, I found that one of my .WAV files
in my Multimedia Themes was broken and could not be accessible.
Imagine what else could break.
     I have not tried using Info-ZIP or PkZip for OS/2, but
I figure they would work with the same restrictions applied
(ie. Info-Zip no disk spanning, PkZip needing the Presentation
Manager).  In order to install Henk's FAT32 driver, I simply
followed the quicky instructions he had listed in the FAT32.TXT
file, using PARTFLT.FLT and not the OS2DASD.DMD file he had
modifyed (on my OS/2 box it trapped as a result).  On the
IFS=FAT32 line I did not have /EAS on (enabling Extended
Attribute support).
     So, do you *really* want to dump OS/2?  Didn't think
so.  A question...could this method work with Linux?  There
is a ext2 driver available for OS/2, that I know of.  Perhaps
that is something else for me to try and play with! ;-)

     Ok, I may have jumped the gun here. ;-)

     Apparently there is a way to do this under Windows 95 and I'll
assume Windows 98.  I won't bother detailing the methods but it
will require a piece of shareware called DOSLFNBK in order to
backup its long file names.  But, it is nice to know that one can
do this within OS/2 anyways.
     I am definately going to find out whether or not one can do
this with Linux.  There is an ext2 file system driver available for
OS/2.  The reason why is that I see no way of actually doing this
under Linux.


CONCLUSION

     The best compression program for backing up OS/2 with should
by right be RAR/2, but I can't get it working properly.  So the
title for "Best Compression Utility" is essential up for grabs.
However, for those that have been using RAR/2 2.50 without any
problems should probably keep doing so.  I just hope that the
newest version of RAR/2 can be made to work since it does offer
some fixes.  As for the other compression utilities, each and
everyone one has their own little drawback.  Info-Zip is great,
until you want it to span across multiple disks/carts.  PkZip was
almost the one, but the folks at PkWare thought it was necessary
that the Presentation Manager be loaded with it, too.  The only
real drawback that ARJ/2 has is that it is still labelled as beta
software and I have not heard anything about it in the past year.
     Ironically enough, the heir apparent to RAR/2 2.50 looks like
it is a piece of beta software.  That's right.  ARJ/2.  Only you
will need EABK203.ZIP from Hobbes in order to really get it
working.  Hopefully, by the time ARJ/2 gets out of beta, one would
not need EABK203.ZIP anymore.  So for the people that have been
having problems with RAR/2 2.50 with the new OS/2 Warp for e-
Business, give ARJ/2 a go and report back to me.


BOOTOS/2 Notes: *UPDATE*
http://hobbes.nmsu.edu - latest version is 9.26

     The documentation in the latest version of BootOS/2 (9.26)
states that the problem being described later is supposed to be
now fixed.

     There seems to be a problem with Warp Connect & FP39 when
trying to make a BootOS/2 TARGET=x TYPE=PM partition.  It creates
it fine, but when I boot it up, it freezes at the "OS/2" box that
appears on the top left-hand corner.  Weird.  I could not boot
to a PM partition (BOOTOS2 TARGET=x TYPE=PM) even when I was back
down in FP26!  Same symptom occurs, during bootup it just freezes
at the "OS/2" box on the top left-hand corner.  The samething also
occurs in FP40, BTW.
     Even making just the floppies seems to cause a small error
with Warp 3 & Connect.  Under FP40, for instance, upon making the
two disk system (BOOTOS2 2DISK=A) after loading up the first disk
it would give me a blank screen and stop dead in its tracks,
going no further.  The solution, copy SESMGR.DLL from your
x:\OS2\DLL onto your BOOTOS2 disk 1 (A:\OS2\DLL).  This also
happened under FP39, BTW.  If you do run into any other kind of
problem with the BOOTOS2 floppies, press ALT-F2 upon booting up
the diskettes just to see what happens.  On this occasion for
example, upon pressing ALT-F2, the screen said that SESMGR.DLL
was not installed in any of the LIBPATH directory statements on
the diskette.
     Warp 4 seems to have absolutely no issues whatsoever, either
a TYPE=PM or 2DISK=A under any of the FP's I have used (FP1, FP6,
& FP10).


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From: [e-mail]                               11-Nov-99 12:52:22
  To: All                                               11-Nov-99 10:44:24
Subj: Re: ADSL connection in Victoria

From: [e-mail] (Richard A Crane)

On Mon, 8 Nov 1999 20:42:39, [e-mail] wrote:

> jayzus, my English teacher was more polite than that . . .
[snip]
> (Shouting often works with foreigners.)
[snip]
>
> There, an actual sentence with subjects, predicates, conjunctions,
subordinate
> prepositional phrases, and a few adjectives for colour. Do you need them
> diagrammed ?
>
Probably yes.
The assumption that USA english is understood always as she
is writ and those whot don't are foriegners is just
offensive.
English is alleged to be my native language and I did not
follow the original post easily. Someone else didn't and
because they said so, it seems you chose to attack their
ethnic origin rather than the more polite and possible
easier course of clarifing your thoughts on what you are
saying and restating them.
I am not from Isreal- I'm from Australia ( where
incidentally we chose to keep the reigning British Monarch
as our Head of State on the weekend over having a local),
and as said above did not (even though a native english
speaker) understand the original post without a great deal
of thought (if then??)
Richard A Crane
Barrister & Solicitor
slightly altered email (anti-spamming) rcrane AT
octa4.net.au
OR rcrane AT attglobal.net

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From: [e-mail]                                  11-Nov-99 14:48:22
  To: All                                               11-Nov-99 14:39:01
Subj: Re: Microsoft findings on CDROM

From: [e-mail]

In <[e-mail]>,
[e-mail] (Buddy Donnelly) writes:
>On Wed, 10 Nov 1999 16:20:23, [e-mail] a crit dans un message:
>
>snipt
>>
>> I have not yet linked to the home page. It is at
>> http://www.quietvision.com/download/sample.zip
>
>Is this available now? I'm getting a server intercept on that URL.
>
Our mistake, are ISV is Sun Unix and Sample.zip is not the same as
sample.zip. It was fixed last night. Use lower case.

>> >I'm curious about printing, 'cause I don't see it mentioned. Do I have to
>> >read these books on the screen, only?
>> >
>
>Hm. I'm not current on that type of restriction on printing public domain
>stuff. The act of publishing, legally, is to simply show it to one other
>person, not to also facilitate further showings. (Though I'm not a lawyer,
>I know someone who has played one on teevee.)
>
To use an exisiting copyright, I sign contracts with authors, artist,
etc. Under the 1998 (Sonny Bono) Copyright act. everything is copyrighted
even if if a copyright is not claimed or filed. Authors and their agents
prefer no ability in the software to mass print the book. However a
print screen is fair use under the law. The law is still grey in this
area, so I stay to the side that does not upset authors and agents.

The important thing is presenting a single common interface for all books
so the PD's do not have a print feature even though there is no legal
restrictions.

"Peter Pan" is one example of were I would (I have not done it yet),
respect the author's wishes even though it is PD. Barrie left the
rights to a children's hospital in England. I have a moral if not
legal obligation (in the US) to pay royalties on this book. There are
many more examples of this kind of activity in publishing.

>
>But you've made a good start, especially with the Tom Swift stuff. I wasn't
>aware the copyright had lapsed on that.
>
On the original Tom Swift Series (the Stratmeyer Syndicate series), The
first 26 are PD. The other 12 (or 14 depending on how you look at 39 and
40) are under copyright till 2019. I am working to obtain the rights
to 27 through 38)


[e-mail]
<A HREF="http://www.quietvision.com">www.quietvision.com</A>
Home of the Electronic Paperback (R)

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From: [e-mail]                               11-Nov-99 08:22:26
  To: All                                               11-Nov-99 14:39:01
Subj: Re: CDRW

From: [e-mail]

>: But is there an OS/2 driver for it?  I installed an HP8200i, and
>: apparently the only OS/2 driver for it is costly, and from a company
>: called, I think, RSJ.  The Windows 98 partition on my machine, where
>: the CDRW is fully supported, allows me to get around most of the
>: consequences of not having an OS/2 driver.

There are trade-offs to this. With RSJ you can use a CD as a standard
drive. The wincrap means you have to spend and hour formating the CDs.



_____________
Ed Letourneau <[e-mail]>

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From: [e-mail]                    11-Nov-99 13:48:18
  To: All                                               11-Nov-99 14:39:01
Subj: Re: CDRW

From: [e-mail] (John Hong)

John Hong ([e-mail]) wrote:
: [e-mail] wrote:

: : But is there an OS/2 driver for it?  I installed an HP8200i, and
: : apparently the only OS/2 driver for it is costly, and from a company
: : called, I think, RSJ.  The Windows 98 partition on my machine, where
: : the CDRW is fully supported, allows me to get around most of the
: : consequences of not having an OS/2 driver.

:     CDRecord/2, works fine with it...provided it is the SCSI version.
: CDRecord/2 is free, BTW.

    Forgot to add that the firmware upgrade is a Win95 application so
you will need at least that on the machine somewhere.

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From: [e-mail]                                 11-Nov-99 15:04:28
  To: All                                               11-Nov-99 14:39:01
Subj: Re: I've lost my Warp Bar :(

From: peter volsted <[e-mail]>

hi

Greg Thomas wrote:
-----

>
> Thanks for the help, but I've found that the line is still in the config.sys
> and the Warpcenter file is gone. Can someone suggest where and how on the CD
I
> can recover the Warpcenter from?

-----
the files you need are: dock*.cfg - where * = 0 through 15 - and scenter.cfg
to
reside in your os2\dll-directory.
I tried your situation sometime last year. I don't recall from where I got the
following. I made in my os2\archives a warpcenter-directory. In that I placed
a
small cmd-file copying the named files to that directory from os2\dll. the
file
contains a remark, that in case the center gets lost, I just copy back the
files
to os2\dll.
I don't recall having used it, but well now my copies are updated.
good luck

peter

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From: [e-mail]                                11-Nov-99 09:49:01
  To: All                                               11-Nov-99 14:39:01
Subj: Re: I've lost my Warp Bar :(

From: Kenneth Kahn <[e-mail]>

Greg Thomas wrote:

> Thanks for the help, but I've found that the line is still in the config.sys
> and the Warpcenter file is gone. Can someone suggest where and how on the CD
I
> can recover the Warpcenter from?

Have you tried opening your "OS/2 System" folder and just clicking on the
"WarpCenter" Icon.
If that doesn't work, remove WARPCENTER from the AutoStart line and reIPL
OS/2.
Then
add it back and reboot again.

Ken Kahn - IBM P/390 Software Development (and BOOTOS2 Author)
Internet : [e-mail]
   Lotus : Kenneth Kahn/Poughkeepsie/IBM@IBMUS
      VM : kenkahn@ibmusm10


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From: [e-mail]                          11-Nov-99 15:20:17
  To: All                                               11-Nov-99 14:39:02
Subj: Re: Microsoft findings on CDROM

From: [e-mail] (Andrew Stephenson)

In article <80el0d$m1$[e-mail]> [e-mail]  writes:

> "Peter Pan" is one example of were I would (I have not done it
> yet), respect the author's wishes even though it is PD. Barrie
> left the rights to a children's hospital in England. I have a
> moral if not legal obligation (in the US) to pay royalties on
> this book. There are many more examples of this kind of
> activity in publishing.

This is an excellent attitude.  The hospital in question, FWIW,
is the Great Ormond Street Hospital For Sick Children, in London.
(That parses as <<<GOS>H>FSC>, BTW -- the name can be confusing.)
They treat children from all over the world, although naturally
most (AFAIK) are from the UK.  Much was made of the connection of
book (actually, originally play) and hospital in Spielberg's 1991
(?) film of a latter-day Peter Pan.
--
Andrew Stephenson

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From: [e-mail]                          11-Nov-99 15:29:27
  To: All                                               11-Nov-99 14:39:02
Subj: Re: Who runs this country?

From: [e-mail] (Andrew Stephenson)

In article <yHQxxE9f8dqd-pn2-ItYN5TbBNuyu@POBLANO>
       [e-mail] "Stan Goodman" writes:

> [...]  What is less clear is how Microsoft, having fled to
> Canada to avoid US antitrust action, would survive with the US
> market denied to it. [...]

If M$ became Canadian, wouldn't their manners need to improve?
Hey, that would _have_ to sting a bit.

More seriously, I long ago concluded -- so call me a Clever Clogs
if history ever proves me right -- that, were M$ to leave the US,
it would be go somewhere like India.  Distance is not the problem
it used to be; and India, as (eg) IBM already demonstrates, has a
strong intellectual infrastructure accustomed to handling complex
software projects.  (Sorry, Canada.)

I wonder if Rajah Billy likes spicy food?
--
Andrew Stephenson

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From: [e-mail]                          11-Nov-99 15:50:19
  To: All                                               11-Nov-99 14:39:02
Subj: Re: Warpcenter gone :(   Where on the CD?

From: [e-mail] (Buddy Donnelly)

On Thu, 11 Nov 1999 06:50:40, Greg Thomas <[e-mail]> a ┌crit
dans un message:

> I seem to have lost WarpCenter. I got some useful advice about how to
> enable the program on boot up which led me to the conclusion that it
> isn't there to be run...
>
> Can someone tell me how to extract it from the WARP4 CD so that I can
> use it again. I am only just starting to get used to using WARP. Isn't
> it always the way you are forced to learn about an OS ;')

Simplest way is to just edit this line in your CONFIG.SYS:

SET AUTOSTART=PROGRAMS,TASKLIST,FOLDERS,CONNECTIONS,LAUNCHPAD,WARPCENTER

You may or may not have or want some items, but generall, if you've got the
SCENTER.DLL registered already, which is extremely likely to be true,
putting
    ,WARPCENTER
on that line will cause it to start the next time you reboot.

If not, you'll have to manually install and register \OS2\DLL\SCENTER.DLL.
Come on back if that's the case, because getting it off the CD is a bit
trickier.


You can also use the CLASSMAN utility to create a desktop object from this
class, if it's registered. It's downloadable here:

    ftp://hobbes.nmsu.edu:/pub/os2/util/wps/classman.zip

and useful enough to have for a lot of things, including manually
registering SCENTER.DLL if you have to, and for de-registering useless DLLs
like the ADV*.DLL group. (Assuming you don't want to access the former
Advantis ISP with the built-in dialer.)

--

Good luck,

Buddy

Buddy Donnelly
[e-mail]


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From: [e-mail]                                  11-Nov-99 18:31:04
  To: All                                               11-Nov-99 16:48:03
Subj: Re: Who runs this country?

From: [e-mail] (Stan Goodman)

On Thu, 11 Nov 1999 15:29:55, [e-mail] (Andrew Stephenson)
wrote:

> In article <yHQxxE9f8dqd-pn2-ItYN5TbBNuyu@POBLANO>
>        [e-mail] "Stan Goodman" writes:
>
> > [...]  What is less clear is how Microsoft, having fled to
> > Canada to avoid US antitrust action, would survive with the US
> > market denied to it. [...]
>
> If M$ became Canadian, wouldn't their manners need to improve?
> Hey, that would _have_ to sting a bit.

They will have to improve in any case. That's what the DOJ and Sun suits
are all about.

> More seriously, I long ago concluded -- so call me a Clever Clogs
> if history ever proves me right -- that, were M$ to leave the US,
> it would be go somewhere like India.  Distance is not the problem
> it used to be; and India, as (eg) IBM already demonstrates, has a
> strong intellectual infrastructure accustomed to handling complex
> software projects.  (Sorry, Canada.)

But it doesn't really matter. Even if he were doing business from an ice
floe, that would not be a license to run an abusive monopoly in the US or
anyplace else, or to contravene the law of any place he would do business.

-------------
Stan Goodman
Qiryat Tiv'on
Israel

E-mail sent to [e-mail] will, of course, not reach me. Sorry.
Send E-mail to: domain: hashkedim dot com, username: stan.


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From: [e-mail]                                  11-Nov-99 13:37:29
  To: All                                               11-Nov-99 16:48:03
Subj: Re: Please HELP! Folder Class Object Problem with Warp4 - prize for

From: Dave <[e-mail]>

Thanks for your help, but the script did NOT fix the problem.  It ran through
all
the folders on my drives, but still none of my folders had icon view as a
default.
In fact, it is still IMPOSSIBLE to set ANY default view, not just ICON VIEW.

Must I resort to rebuilding os2.ini and os2sys.ini ?

Brad BARCLAY wrote:

> Dave wrote:
> >
> > Hello everyone!  Warp rules!
>
>         It sure does :).
>
> > Anyway, here's the situation.  I installed InetPowerServer at one point,
> > didn't like it, and uninstalled.  Unfortunately, somewhere during this
> > time, IPS's folder classes borked or something and ALL my folders on my
> > system no longer have a "default view".  So in order to open a folder, I
> > must right click it, click the open ARROW, then click icon view...
> > double clicking doesnt work now!
> >
> > Has anyone ever had this problem or know of a fix? (besides reinstall
> > OS/2) - would recreating os2.ini and os2sys.ini fix the problem?
>
>         I haven't seen it before, but assuming you've installed and used
> Feature Installer at least once in your OS/2-using career, the following
> REXX script should help to fix things up for you:
>
> -------------------------------[cut
> here]-------------------------------------
> /* Quick script to build WPObjData objects.                */
> /* Written by Brad BARCLAY <[e-mail]>        */
> call RxFuncAdd 'SysLoadFuncs', 'RexxUtil', 'SysLoadFuncs'
> call SysLoadFuncs
>
> /***************************************************/
> /* Note:  be sure to set the following variable to */
> /*        a drive letter visible to OS/2.          */
> /*        Normally, C:\ should be just fine.       */
> /***************************************************/
> dir="C:\"
>
> /***************************************************/
> /* Note:  there is no need to change these two     */
> /*        variables - they are defined for         */
> /*        the sake of convienence.                 */
> /***************************************************/
> filename="FLDRMOD.BJB"
> objname="<FOLDERFIX>"
>
> /***************************************************/
> /* Note:  the following variable may be set as     */
> /*        follows:                                 */
> /*                                                 */
> /*        ICON       -  Opens in Icon View         */
> /*        TREE       -  Opens in Tree View         */
> /*        DETAILS    -  Opens in Details View      */
> /*        DEFAULT    -  Opens in the classes       */
> /*                      default view.              */
> /***************************************************/
> defview="ICON"
>
> /***************************************************/
> /* Program starts here...                          */
> /***************************************************/
> myrc=SysRegisterObjectClass("WPObjData", "OBJDATA")
> myrc=SysCreateObject("WPObjData", filename, dir, "OBJECTID="||objname)
> if myrc=0 then exit    /* Couldn't create the object */
>
> myrc=LINEOUT(dir||filename, "DEFAULTVIEW="||defview)
> myrc=LINEOUT(dir||filename)
>
> myrc=SysMoveObject(objname, "<WP_DESKTOP>")
> myrc=SysSetObjectData(objname, "TITLE=Drag and Drop Folders Here!")
> exit
> -------------------------------[cut
> here]-------------------------------------
>
>         Copy this to a file, and modify any of the variables that might need
> changing (probably none of them, but one never knows :).  Save it to a
> file on your hard drive (call it whatever you want - I called it
> FLDFIX.CMD), and run it.
>
>         This script alone won't fix your problem - HOWEVER it will create an
> object on your desktop where you can drag and drop all of your folders
> to (one a a time or many at once) which will set their default view to
> "ICON" (unless you change the 'defview' variable as explained in the
> REXX script).
>
>         If you happen to have lots and lots and lots of folders on your
system,
> I can whip up either another script or a C program which will do all of
> them for you, but this should at least get you started in fixing some of
> your more important folders, and is good if only some folders are
> broken, and not others.
>
>         The following script is much more brutal :).  It will traverse every
> subdirectory (folder) on the specified drive and give it the
> "DEFAULTVIEW=ICON" (or whatever you specify) attribute:
>
> -------------------------------[cut
> here]-------------------------------------
> /* Quick script to traverse and modify directories.*/
> /* Written by Brad BARCLAY <[e-mail]>        */
> call RxFuncAdd 'SysLoadFuncs', 'RexxUtil', 'SysLoadFuncs'
> call SysLoadFuncs
>
> parse arg drive
>
> /***************************************************/
> /* Note:  the following variable may be set as     */
> /*        follows:                                 */
> /*                                                 */
> /*        ICON       -  Opens in Icon View         */
> /*        TREE       -  Opens in Tree View         */
> /*        DETAILS    -  Opens in Details View      */
> /*        DEFAULT    -  Opens in the classes       */
> /*                      default view.              */
> /***************************************************/
> defview="ICON"
>
> /***************************************************/
> /* Program starts here...                          */
> /***************************************************/
> "@dir" drive||"\ /AD /S /F | RXQUEUE"
>
> DO FOREVER UNTIL QUEUED()=0
>    PULL dir
>    say "Modifing directory: "||dir
>    rc=SysSetObjectData(dir, "DEFAULTVIEW="||defview)
>    if rc=0 then say "Failed!"
> end /* do */
> exit
>
> -------------------------------[cut
> here]-------------------------------------
>
>         Again, copy and save it however you wish (I call it FXALLFLD.CMD).
> Specify the drive letter (with colon) as the only parameter, ie:
>
>                                 fxallfld c:
>
>         If you don't specify a drive letter, it will just assume the current
> drive.  Run this command once for each drive letter you have, and it
> should fix everything up in one fell swoop (note hwever that every
> folder is going to have the exact same default - in tihs case ICON
> view.  If you had any folders which had a different icon view, you'll
> have to go back and change them manually.  Note however that this
> shouldn't affect drive objects at all).
>
> > For anyone who can help me through this, I will give you 50+ MB web/ftp
> > space on my T1 server.
>
>         Thanks, but I already have 5Gb on about 90Mb of bandwidth through
> yaztromo.idirect.com on a WARP Server for e-business box, but it was
> nice of you to offer :).
>
> Brad BARCLAY
>
> =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
> Posted from the OS/2 WARP v4.5 desktop of Brad BARCLAY.
> E-Mail:  [e-mail]            Location:  2G43D@Torolabs

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From: [e-mail]                                 11-Nov-99 19:55:24
  To: All                                               11-Nov-99 16:48:03
Subj: Re: Possible lockups?

From: [e-mail] (Magnus Olsson)

On Sat, 6 Nov 1999 08:06:52, Nelson and Satasha Williams
<[e-mail]> wrote:

> I'm running Warp 4 with FP12 and I seem to be having a slight problem
> with JPG files.  At least, I think so.  Every time I try to open a JPG
> file, the default viewer just sits there, but never opens the file.  I
According to some more initiated posters here the multimedia part of
OS/2 is the most buggy part. It's supposedly even more buggy in warp 4
than in warp 3 (own experience backs that up). I, and many with me,
use PMView for all image viewing on OS/2. The latest official version
is 1.05, IIRC. A new 2.0 version may be here before December (the beta
is out for registered users).

http://www.pmview.com

-
Magnus Olsson

"Nothing in the affairs of men is worthy of great anxiety."
 - Plato

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From: [e-mail]                                  11-Nov-99 13:06:18
  To: All                                               11-Nov-99 19:59:16
Subj: Re: Please HELP! Folder Class Object Problem with Warp4 - prize for

From: Dave <[e-mail]>

Sorry Jim, neither of those suggestions work, unfortunately :(

Makes me think that something is SERIOUSLY borked....

Jim Parker wrote:

> Dave wrote:
>
> > Hello everyone!  Warp rules!
> >
> > Anyway, here's the situation.  I installed InetPowerServer at one point,
> > didn't like it, and uninstalled.  Unfortunately, somewhere during this
> > time, IPS's folder classes borked or something and ALL my folders on my
> > system no longer have a "default view".  So in order to open a folder, I
> > must right click it, click the open ARROW, then click icon view...
> > double clicking doesnt work now!
> >
> > Has anyone ever had this problem or know of a fix? (besides reinstall
> > OS/2) - would recreating os2.ini and os2sys.ini fix the problem?
> >
> > For anyone who can help me through this, I will give you 50+ MB web/ftp
> > space on my T1 server.
> >
> > THANKS!
> > -Dave
> > [e-mail]
> > http://warpedcow.tsx.org
> > Warpedcow on EFNET #os2warez
>
> Yes, I think there is a better way.
>
> Go to OS/2 System->System Setup->Window tab page 3 of 3 and select Default
> Folder View of choice.
>
> Jim

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From: [e-mail]                               11-Nov-99 17:26:18
  To: All                                               11-Nov-99 19:59:17
Subj: Re: Please HELP! Folder Class Object Problem with Warp4 - prize for

From: Brad BARCLAY <[e-mail]>

Dave wrote:
>
> Thanks for your help, but the script did NOT fix the problem.  It ran
through all
> the folders on my drives, but still none of my folders had icon view as a
default.
> In fact, it is still IMPOSSIBLE to set ANY default view, not just ICON VIEW.
>
> Must I resort to rebuilding os2.ini and os2sys.ini ?

    Hmmm - I think that might still be a bit extreme.  What might work is
to simply deregister and re-register the WPFolder class.  That would
hopefully set it back to its defaults - but to be ohnest, I don't know
what it would do to or for your folder instances :).

    Something you can try to see if it will help is a non-destructive
MAKEINI.  Run it from within the WPS (through an OS/2 Command prompt
window), and rebuild your OS2SYS.INI.  Running it from under the WPS is
generally onn-destructive, and it *might* help.

    One query:  do you have any third-party add-on tools installed which
override the default WPFolder object?  Anything like Object Desktop or
anything?

    I still think you can fix things (with some help) without resorting to
anything hugely drastic.  If the above doesn't help any, let me know and
I'll pull out my OS/2 WPS programming reference sometime this weekend
and whip up an EXE for you which will (hopefully :) fix the problem.

Brad BARCLAY

=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Posted from the OS/2 WARP v4.5 desktop of Brad BARCLAY.
E-Mail:  [e-mail]        Location:  2G43D@Torolabs

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From: [e-mail]                                 11-Nov-99 19:55:29
  To: All                                               11-Nov-99 19:59:17
Subj: Re: MicroSoft a Monopoly?!?!

From: [e-mail] (Magnus Olsson)

On Sat, 6 Nov 1999 20:50:30, Dave yadallee <[e-mail]> wrote:

> Maybe this means wyou will be able to run 32-bit Windows Apps on OS/2 V 4
soon
That sounds interesting at first, but to me windows apps belong on
windows (of course i don't mind having win32 as a last way out, but
that's a different thing). I run OS/2 to run OS/2 apps that work
*with* OS/2. Since windows apps don't know anything about OS/2 they
will not suddenly become any better just because they're run under it.

What OS/2 needs is the same level of native application support as
windows has. As it is now there's a lack of consistency between OS/2
apps, because too much of standard behavior (eg. user controls and
internationalization) is left to the applications themselves. In the
news reader i use right now (ProNews/2) there's a so called container
control (basically a list of posts) with headers for selecting sort
order. This is a standard control under win32, but not under OS/2. The
same goes for tool bars and print dialogs. This means that application
programmers have to do more work (under OS/2), which is bad for
application availability, and that different applications have
different looks and behavior regarding these features, which isn't
very good for overall application useability.

When it comes to internationalization OS/2's biggest short-coming is
the lack of unicode. This is apparent in communicator for OS/2. Again
the *application programmers* have had to do a lot of work to get it
*almost* working. In a word processor mixing languages in a single
document would have been even more difficult, maybe even impossible
for all practical purposes. So before international applications will
run OK on OS/2 unicode must be implemented.

end of rant

-
Magnus Olsson

"Nothing in the affairs of men is worthy of great anxiety."
 - Plato

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From: [e-mail]                                 11-Nov-99 19:56:04
  To: All                                               11-Nov-99 19:59:17
Subj: Re: Unwanted "Open as" entry - and removeal thereof

From: [e-mail] (Magnus Olsson)

On Tue, 9 Nov 1999 13:16:47, [e-mail] (Richard A Crane)
wrote:

> Somehow I have managed to create a entry in my "open as"
> field for all my "plain text" files.
>
> This entry reads DUTCHLAW (yep I did this when trying to
> associate a file called that with e.exe - got it backwards
> somehow it seems!) and will not allow me to delete it from
> the "Properties>Menu Action on Menu Box (where both the
> "Delete" and "Properties" remain stubbornly greyed out.
It's not supposed  to work that way. Instead you go to object
associated (DUTCHLAW) and remove "plain text" and "*.txt" from the
associations page.

-
Magnus Olsson

"Nothing in the affairs of men is worthy of great anxiety."
 - Plato

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From: [e-mail]                        11-Nov-99 20:19:27
  To: All                                               11-Nov-99 19:59:17
Subj: New media for Warp Server Advanced?

From: [e-mail] (Alex Taylor)

I've inherited a package from our LAN team, who apparently has no
further need of it (it was used to support a client who has since
moved on).

This package is OS/2 Warp Server version 4 Advanced.  I've inspected
the contents, and it contains the manuals, the license booklets, and
two "proof of entitlement" cards.

However, what it does _not_ contain is any media (CDs).

I've heard tell that IBM will replace media upon proof of ownership.

However, given that:
 - This is a deprecated product;
 - I am not the original purchaser;
 - I am not a Fortune 500 company

is it likely that IBM would be willing to provide me with the CDs for
this product?

Next question of course, is: who at IBM would I ask?

Thanks...
--
-----------------------------------------------------------------
 Alex Taylor                  BA - CIS - University of Guelph
 [e-mail]   http://eddie.cis.uoguelph.ca/~alex
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From: [e-mail]                      11-Nov-99 22:42:17
  To: All                                               11-Nov-99 21:27:03
Subj: Re: Backup & Defragmentation 3.5

From: [e-mail] (Marky)

On 11 Nov 1999 11:57:31 GMT, [e-mail] (John
Hong) wrote:

>
>                  Backup & Defragmentation 3.5
>
snip!
>     I'm sure some will ask, "But John, what about PowerQuest's
>Drive Image or Norton's Ghost?"  Well, there really is no problem
>with those programs.  They do as advertised, they backup the hard
>drive into an image.  That image can be restored onto a single
>machine (or if you have the Drive Image Pro) onto a network of
>multiple machines.  Unfortunately, the problem with disk imaging
>programs like those is that they do absolutely nothing about the
>fragmentation of the file system.  Keep in mind, programs like
>Drive Image and Ghost simply make a *mirror* image of the hard
>drive's partitions.  This means that not only does it copy the
>data, but also the holes that whatever file system left behind
>after days, months, years, etc. of disk thrashing.  In a nut shell,
>Drive Image and Ghost not only copy the hard drive data, but also
>the fragmentation of the file system.  This is where this little
>primer really comes into play.  Of course, the advantage with
>something like Drive Image Pro is the ability to restore onto a
>multitude of networked computers.  Something that would be a pretty
>big pain in the butt by this method.

While I agree with you that Drive Image saves an image _with_ the
fragmentation, Ghost does not work that way. From personal experience,
(FAT only) I can tell you that Ghost does file by file copying to and
from saved images. It is also saving additional info besides just the
files so it can restore the paritioning and boot sector info (for the
drive and each partition). The file by file copying means that on
restores, all the files and the free space are defragmented. I haven't
experienced directory fragmentation, but it may be possible with
directories that require more than one cluster: I just don't know.

Unfortunately, at least as of 5.1c, you are correct that you can't use
Ghost for backup and restore. The 5.1c version, saving on a file by
file basis, does not understand the additional info in the directory
entry that links an OS/2 file to EA DATA. SF (at least on FAT
partitions: I never tried it on HPFS). The result being, on a restore,
the EA info is totally corrupted. This is supposedly fixed in 5.1d,
which I have, but I haven't tried it on a partition with EAs yet. Or,
you could use EABACKUP and EARESTOR, as you suggest for
other tools that don't understand EAs.

Marky

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From: [e-mail]                 11-Nov-99 16:41:28
  To: All                                               11-Nov-99 21:27:04
Subj: Re: Please HELP! Folder Class Object Problem with Warp4 - prize for

From: [e-mail] (Raphael Tennenbaum)

Dave <[e-mail]> wrote:

>Thanks for your help, but the script did NOT fix the problem.  It ran through
all
>the folders on my drives, but still none of my folders had icon view as a
default.
>In fact, it is still IMPOSSIBLE to set ANY default view, not just ICON VIEW.
>
>Must I resort to rebuilding os2.ini and os2sys.ini ?
>

Before you do that (and perhaps should have done this before
you did the other stuff) hasten to

   http://www.os2ss.com/information/kelder/#WPTOOLS

and download Henk Kelder's latest WPTOOLS, an absolutely
indispensible set of (freeware) tools for maintaining your
ini files.  Carefully read the CHECKINI documentation, then
run CHECKINI and see if that's fixed your problem.  THen
come back and let us know how it went....

--
Ray Tennenbaum        '99 YZF-R6
readme@ http://www.ray-field.com

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From: [e-mail]                                    11-Nov-99 23:55:17
  To: All                                               11-Nov-99 21:27:04
Subj: Re: I've lost my Warp Bar :(

From: [e-mail] (Bob Eager)

On Thu, 11 Nov 1999 14:49:02, Kenneth Kahn <[e-mail]> wrote:

> Have you tried opening your "OS/2 System" folder and just clicking on the
> "WarpCenter" Icon.

He's lost the WarpCenter object altogether.

I've sent him a script to recreate it.
--
Bob Eager
rde at tavi.co.uk
PC Server 325; PS/2s 8595*3, 9595*3 (2*P60 + P90), 8535, 8570, 9556*2,
8580*6,
8557*2, 8550, 9577, 8530, P70, PC/AT..

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From: [e-mail]                12-Nov-99 00:24:26
  To: All                                               11-Nov-99 21:27:04
Subj: Re: Break-in -- Where in IBM do I go to get media replacement?

From: [e-mail] (Jack Troughton)

On Sun, 31 Oct 1999 12:42:09, [e-mail] (Jack
Troughton) wrote:

ΩHi all!
█
ΩI got broken into.  Which really sucks, but anyway...
█
ΩI need to get replacement media for warp connect and warp 4.  Who or
Ωwhere do I call in IBM to get replacement media?
█
ΩThe license information included with warp 4 and warp connect is none
Ωtoo clear about this.  I would like to avoid playing "pass it on" over
Ωthe telephone as much as I can, as I'm going to be calling them while
Ωat work, and work is busy:)
█
ΩI'm in Montreal, if that makes any difference over who to call.
█
ΩThanks!

To everyone who followed-up to my original post, I thought I'd fill
you in on the current situation.

I just got warp 4 delivered today; complete with box and manuals.
However, it appears that I won't be able to get a replacement for Warp
Connect; it's been "withdrawn from service" and they don't have any
more in stock.

However, I DO have a legal right to the files.  I'm hoping I might be
able to work something out with IBM about an ftp site, a password, and
a CD burner... but I think it's quite unlikely.  OTOH, if someone out
there has a copy and might feel like doing some file transfers, this
would not in fact be illegal as I have a valid license for the system.

I'd kinda like to have it for the historical sake, not to mention the
sentimental value.  In many ways, I learned my computer fundamentals
by playing around with warp connect.  If/when I ever get another box
to put on a network here in the house, I'd like to use warp connect
for it, along with the usual slew of servers... strictly for the
intellectual curiousity, you understand:)

Overall, I'd have to say that IBM support did some really nice work
overall; everyone's been quite polite.  Overall time taken; 6 business
days to get warp back in the house!

Take it easy all!

Jack Troughton   ICQ:7494149
http://jakesplace.dhs.org
jack.troughton at videotron.ca
jake at jakesplace.dhs.org
Montr┌al PQ Canada

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From: [e-mail]                12-Nov-99 00:33:02
  To: All                                               11-Nov-99 21:27:04
Subj: Re: New media for Warp Server Advanced?

From: [e-mail] (Jack Troughton)

On Thu, 11 Nov 1999 20:19:54, [e-mail] (Alex Taylor)
wrote:

ΩI've inherited a package from our LAN team, who apparently has no
Ωfurther need of it (it was used to support a client who has since
Ωmoved on).
█
ΩThis package is OS/2 Warp Server version 4 Advanced.  I've inspected
Ωthe contents, and it contains the manuals, the license booklets, and
Ωtwo "proof of entitlement" cards.
█
ΩHowever, what it does _not_ contain is any media (CDs).
█
ΩI've heard tell that IBM will replace media upon proof of ownership.
█
ΩHowever, given that:
Ω - This is a deprecated product;
Ω - I am not the original purchaser;
Ω - I am not a Fortune 500 company
█
Ωis it likely that IBM would be willing to provide me with the CDs for
Ωthis product?
█
ΩNext question of course, is: who at IBM would I ask?
█
ΩThanks...

I just went through something like this... I got b&e'd a while back
and had to get warp 4 client replaced.  Call product support; they ARE
the right department to help you out.  If you can give them the
license number, you can probably get the software with a (prolly
rather extended as you get bounced around the globe;) phonecall.

Good Luck!

Jack Troughton   ICQ:7494149
http://jakesplace.dhs.org
jack.troughton at videotron.ca
jake at jakesplace.dhs.org
Montr┌al PQ Canada

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From: [e-mail]                          11-Nov-99 23:57:25
  To: All                                               12-Nov-99 03:36:01
Subj: New CHECKINI makes system more stable

From: [e-mail] (Andrew Stephenson)

Others have praised Henk Kelder's CHECKINI from time to time, and
have remarked specifically on the most recent version as included
in WPTOOL31.ZIP (visit the usual watering-holes for a copy).

My system used to freeze in circumstances suggesting a video bug.
This would usually be in mid-update of OS2.INI, so far as I could
tell, either during a VDOS session or while leaving one.  It was
slowly becoming worse and worse, with as many as 2 freezes a day.

The new CHECKINI not only zapped almost a dozen duplicate handles
but also wiped away a persistent object which formerly had seemed
immortal.  Better still, since then I have had not one freeze-up,
when I "should" have had 5 or 6.

Thank you again, Henk.  Any idea why things improved so suddenly?
--
Andrew Stephenson

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From: larso@commodore.                                  12-Nov-99 03:26:10
  To: All                                               12-Nov-99 03:36:02
Subj: Re: Who runs this country?

From: larso@commodore. (Lars P Ormberg)

As I stepped out onto the Stoop, I saw Stan Goodman write:

> But it doesn't really matter. Even if he were doing business from an ice
> floe, that would not be a license to run an abusive monopoly

Somebody's running an abusive monopoly?  Who?

--
Lars P. Ormberg     ICQ#:8827066
mailto:[e-mail]
The University of Lars:   http://www.ualberta.ca/~larso/

"The way you're bathed in light, reminds me of that night
God laid me down into your rose garden of trust and I was
swept away with nothin' left to say some helpless fool
yeah I was lost in a swoon of peace you're all I need to
find so when the time is right come to me sweetly, come
to me come to me..love will lead us, alright.  love will
lead us, she will lead us.  can you hear the dolphin's
cry?  see the road rise up to meet us its in the air we
breathe tonight love will lead us, she will lead us"
                            -Live, "The Dolphin's Cry"

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From: [e-mail]                12-Nov-99 04:09:19
  To: All                                               12-Nov-99 03:36:02
Subj: Re: Who runs this country?

From: [e-mail] (Jack Troughton)

On Thu, 11 Nov 1999 09:21:48, [e-mail] (Stan Goodman) wrote:

ΩOn Thu, 11 Nov 1999 07:15:56, "Erik" <[e-mail]> wrote:
█
Ω>
Ω> Stan Goodman wrote:
Ω> > ------------snip-----------
█
█
Ω> > > >>If there is any kind of penalty imposed on Microsoft perhaps they
Ω> could
Ω> > > >>diversify to BC; where we are also tired of this bogus government
Ω> > > >>intervention against success.  (After our present 'gov't' is gone, of
Ω> > > >>course).
Ω>
Ω>
Ω> > You mean you think that a company can sit in Canada and run a business in
Ω> > restraint of trade in the US?
Ω>
Ω> 1: You need to learn how those little >>> attribution thingies work.  I
Ω> wrote the above; not 'The Doctor', or 'Barry Adams'.
█
ΩSorry. I knew who wrote it; you were the only one with a Canadian email
Ωaddress.
Ω
Ω> 2: You need to recognize that Canada is not yet conjoined with the US.
█
ΩNo, that is clear to me: Canada can permit any sort of commercial abuse it
Ωwants to within its territory. What is less clear is how Microsoft, having
Ωfled to Canada to avoid US antitrust action, would survive with the US
Ωmarket denied to it. Any company doing business in the US is subject to US
Ωlaw. Maybe you need to understand that a company doing business outside its
Ωhome country is subject to the laws of the place in which it is doing
Ωbusiness.
█
Ω> 3: You might mail-order a dictionary and look up 'sarcasm'.
█
Ω?

Stan... you're from Israel, so you probably don't really know what
"government" means in British Columbia, Canada.  To give you an idea;
the most recent scandal (but not the first, nor the nastiest)
involving a sitting premier is an instructive little spectacle known
in the press here as "Bingogate".  I invite you to imagine the sordid
details.

To which I might add that BC is a very beautiful place, and everyone
I've met from out there have been very nice people.  I lived there for
a while, but I was very young, and don't really know the place.  My
sister lived there for seven years, and she likes the place.  However,
politics has a flavour all its own in BC.  The "father" of BC was a
premier popularly known as "Wacky" Bennet.  I don't know if he's the
first... maybe the guy from bc.politics could enlighten us?

But hey, I'm an anglo from Kingston, Ontario who "emigrated" to
Montr┌al, in French Quebec.  So what the hell do I know?:)

And just exactly what has this to do with OS/2...?  Definitely one of
the more interesting crossposts I've ever seen.  os2.misc,
os2.advocacy, bc.politics, can.politics?  Definitely strange...

Jack Troughton   ICQ:7494149
http://jakesplace.dhs.org
jack.troughton at videotron.ca
jake at jakesplace.dhs.org
Montr┌al PQ Canada

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From: [e-mail]                               12-Nov-99 04:24:28
  To: All                                               12-Nov-99 03:36:02
Subj: Can't print with spooler on Optra 40

From: [e-mail]

Running Warp V 4.0 with FP 12; Lexmark Optra 40.  When
attempting to print a file with the spooler enabled, I get a
SYS3175 in PMSPOOL.EXE @ 1cb4bcaf (access violation -
0001:0003bcaf).  Any ideas about what causes this?
Wes Aman


Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.

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From: [e-mail]                              12-Nov-99 15:44:15
  To: All                                               12-Nov-99 03:36:02
Subj: Postscript Drivers

From: "Brian White" <[e-mail]>

I want to set up a Postscript Driver to print to .PS files and then
convert to .PDF format. However the postscript driver contains emulations
for many printers.  Can anyone tell me which device will produce the best
quality colour postscript files?




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From: [e-mail]                                12-Nov-99 05:02:07
  To: All                                               12-Nov-99 03:36:02
Subj: Matrox G400 and Scitech DD articles in newest OS/2 Ezine

From: [e-mail] (Duncan Munro)


http://www.os2ezine.com

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From: [e-mail]                        12-Nov-99 06:12:08
  To: All                                               12-Nov-99 03:36:02
Subj: Re: Postscript Drivers

From: [e-mail] (Jan Eri)

On Fri, 12 Nov 1999 05:44:30, "Brian White" <[e-mail]> wrote:
> I want to set up a Postscript Driver to print to .PS files and then
> convert to .PDF format. However the postscript driver contains emulations
> for many printers.  Can anyone tell me which device will produce the best
> quality colour postscript files?

I am interested in this too. Also, does the OS/2 drivers support Postscript 3?

regards, Jan

----------------------------------
Jan Eri -- Protector AS -- Norway
Work: http://www.protector-group.no
Priv: http://home.eunet.no/~jeri/

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From: [e-mail]                                   12-Nov-99 01:05:25
  To: All                                               12-Nov-99 03:36:03
Subj: Re: MicroSoft a Monopoly?!?!

From: [e-mail] (Harry Travis)

In <[e-mail]>, on
11/11/99
   at 05:24 AM, [e-mail] (Buddy Donnelly) said:

>On Wed, 10 Nov 1999 06:17:45, "Doug Darrow" <[e-mail]> a
>écrit dans un message:

>> On Mon, 08 Nov 1999 00:57:34 -0500, Bob Germer wrote:
>>
>> >As much as I would like to say he was expelled, he wasn't. He is
>> >officially carried on Harvard's records as on leave of absence in good
>> >standing.
>> >
>> >Of course, Harvard may just be hoping he will drop some money on it.
>>
>> It was only Papa's money (and political influence) that kept him on
>> their books 'in good standing.'

>And it was very ironic that he (and his wife, his "better" half for
>real?)  donated big bucks this year to the United Negro College Fund.
>Their motto?  "A Mind Is A Terrible Thing To Waste."

>Even the worst of us can serve as somebody else's Bad Example.

And in BD's case--see exegisis on the NS 4.61 Easter Eggs, elsewhere--

"Waste is a terrible thing to mind"

For BD , "mind" is defined as "keep track of, store, archive, backup."
For Jeff Kobal of IBM's Netscape team, BD includes in his definition,--
incorrectly--"make objection over, take umbradge with".


--
-----------------------------------------------------------
[e-mail] (Harry Travis)
DemostiX
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From: [e-mail]                                  12-Nov-99 08:21:29
  To: All                                               12-Nov-99 05:21:02
Subj: Re: Who runs this country?

From: [e-mail] (Stan Goodman)

On Fri, 12 Nov 1999 03:26:20, larso@commodore. (Lars P Ormberg) wrote:

> As I stepped out onto the Stoop, I saw Stan Goodman write:
>
> > But it doesn't really matter. Even if he were doing business from an ice
> > floe, that would not be a license to run an abusive monopoly
>
> Somebody's running an abusive monopoly?  Who?

When you threaten people with severe retribution (e.g. "We'll cut off their
air") if they dare to patronize your competitors, that is an abusive
monopoly. Don't you read the newspapers? The recent court finding is that
there is a monopoly, and that Microsoft abused its monopoly position, for
that reason and many others.

It's late in the day to be surprised by that.

-------------
Stan Goodman
Qiryat Tiv'on
Israel

E-mail sent to [e-mail] will, of course, not reach me. Sorry.
Send E-mail to: domain: hashkedim dot com, username: stan.


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From: [e-mail]                                12-Nov-99 00:26:17
  To: All                                               12-Nov-99 05:21:02
Subj: Re: chkdsk problems??

From: [e-mail] (Will Honea)

On Wed, 10 Nov 1999 20:37:18, James Stotz <[e-mail]>
wrote:

> I'm trying to re-install our lan server on one of our computers.  But,
> I'm having a problem with the lan fixpak.  It stops saying that there
> are errors on the hard drive or the sel000.cfs is corrupt (or something
> like that).  But, there are errors on the hard drive.  The /F command on
>
> chkdsk doesn't work because c: is being used.  So I went to utility
> disks, and everything seems O.K.  But, booting up again shows errors
> again.  I quickly installed a version on my d: drive, and ran chkdsk
> there.  I see the sys0552 and sys0562 errors.  I can run chkdsk c: /F,
> and the errors disappear.  When I go back to the original (c:)
> partition, the errors return.  I've reformated everything, installed it
> and made sure everything was O.K., but as soon as I install Warp 4, the
> errors come forth. I've done this many times before, but on this machine
>
> (which worked once already) nothings doing.
>
> Any help on how to permanently rid these errors from my system.  It
> keeps saying it found lost data.

I feel the pain!  We spent all night getting one server straightened
out - and there is still some question as to how we finally did it
<g>.

Hopefully, you are not running HPFS386.  That's a major complication,
to say the least.  The sympthoms you describe are very much those of a
failing drive so a little testing may save you a lot of grief.  First,
boot the floppies and run chkdsk /f:2 until you get 2 consecutive
passes with no errors so that a fix one place doesn't pop up another
error someplace else.  Then I would get a copy of Jan van Wijk's
excellent DFSEE program (from hobbes or his home page
http://www.fsys.demon.nl ) and run a scan on the drive.  When I got
this on some older machines chkdsk would 'fix' the problems but the
next time I tried to write to the drive everything clobbered again
because of bad sectors not accessed by chkdsk.

If the drive is good (and make sure that all the drives accessed
during the install are good) you can probably start over and get it
done.  If you do not have to preserve the data on the drive (ACL's and
such) I would suggest doing a format c: /fs:hpfs /L while booted to
floppy and see what errors are reported.  If that reports errors ditch
the drive otherwise install.  If in doubt, format with the /L
parameter a couple of times.  If it's a SCSI drive, do a low level
format and start from scratch.

If you have to preserve the data on the drive, better make a backup
ASAP.  That way you can still wipe the drive, reformat, install and
copy the data back.  If you need the ACL's saved, use backacc and
restacc to salvage those.

If you have HPFS386 on the server you are in for a hassle - contact me
and I'll pass on what I remember about this little fire drill.

Again, I'm not entirely clear on what the circumstance is - are you
just trying to get a clean reinstall of the server or are you trying
to salvage an install?  Also, either you mistyped or you are trying to
install LAN server over Warp 4 which is another complication.

Will Honea <[e-mail]>

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From: [e-mail]                              12-Nov-99 02:08:26
  To: All                                               12-Nov-99 05:21:02
Subj: Warp3 FP42 and Netscape 4.61

From: [e-mail] (Jerry Lapham)

Just thought I'd pass on my experience:

1) I run Warp3, FixPack 32 as my main operating system on drive E.  I had
a 300MB partition (drive F) set aside for a maintenance partition which I
had never gotten around to installing anything on.

2) I downloaded and tried to install Netscape 4.61 on drive H.  Each time
I tried to run the Install program, I got the following:

EPFIE602: An error occurred while attempting to create a directory.
Ensure you have write access to a drive with adequate space.

3) I installed Warp3 (red) with DOS but not Windows support on drive F.
Then I applied FixPack 32.  After that I installed my ver 2.22 drivers for
the Matrox Mystique.  I used a hex editor to change SYSLEVEL.OS2 to appear
to be Warp Server and installed FixPack 42.

4) Warp3 with FixPack 42 seems to work OK.  I even tried running a couple
of DOS programs and they seem to run OK.  While I was at it, I decided to
try running the Netscape 4.61 Install and it installed fine on drive H.
Unfortunately, when I try to run Netscape 4.61 while booted to drive F,
Netscape doesn't start up.

5) But Netscape 4.61 *does* run OK when booted to drive E (FP 32).

6) When I'm feeling brave, I plan to try installing Windows support on
drive F and see if FP 42 will work with it.  If that works and I can get
Netscape 4.61 working, I may try applying FP 42 to drive E.

7) Some of the other FixPack installation methods are tempting, but I'm
glad I use diskettes.  This is at least the third time I've used my set of
FP 32 diskettes and I'll probably need the FP 42 set multiple times, too.

    -Jerry
--
============================================================
Jerry Lapham, Monroe, OH
E-Mail: [e-mail]
Written Friday, November 12, 1999 - 02:08 AM (EST)
============================================================
MR/2 Ice tag:  WARNING:  Check your toilet paper stockpile.  Make sure it's
Y2K compliant. Word has it, if it isn't, come Jan 1, 2000, it will roll back
to 1900, then turn into a Sears Catalog.

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From: [e-mail]                          12-Nov-99 08:05:06
  To: All                                               12-Nov-99 05:21:02
Subj: Re: Can't print with spooler on Optra 40

From: [e-mail] (Buddy Donnelly)

On Fri, 12 Nov 1999 04:24:57, [e-mail] a ┌crit dans un message:

> Running Warp V 4.0 with FP 12; Lexmark Optra 40.  When
> attempting to print a file with the spooler enabled, I get a
> SYS3175 in PMSPOOL.EXE @ 1cb4bcaf (access violation -
> 0001:0003bcaf).  Any ideas about what causes this?
> Wes Aman

I don't think this has to be specific for any given printer, but when it
happens it *usually* means you want to delete your printer objects and
reinstall them after a reboot. There's a series of links that have to be
made to get the spooler connected to the driver connected to the printer
object, and sometimes they can get disrupted by an incomplete Printer
install.

(I have the same printer and no problems printing with the spooler, which
is normal behaviour.)


--

Good luck,

Buddy

Buddy Donnelly
[e-mail]


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From: [e-mail]                                  12-Nov-99 05:38:16
  To: All                                               12-Nov-99 10:28:26
Subj: Re: UPDATE: Re: I can no longer live with OS/2

From: "Michael K Greene" <[e-mail]>

On Wed, 10 Nov 1999 20:45:17 GMT, Matt Hickman wrote:

>CSD level at UN00000_.

>Is there a CSD for TCP/IP for Warp v 4.00????

Yes, UN10001.
Michael K Greene <[e-mail]>     |      OS/2 Warp / Linux / Win95-311



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From: [e-mail]                            12-Nov-99 12:06:03
  To: All                                               12-Nov-99 10:28:26
Subj: OS/2 security docs ???

From: [e-mail]

Hi,
Does anyone know where/how to get a comprehensive document on OS/2
security features (internal and external) if there is one out there ?


Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.

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From: [e-mail]                                     12-Nov-99 10:24:01
  To: All                                               12-Nov-99 10:28:26
Subj: ODIN WINSPOOL question

From: Cassio Roberto Pellegrim <[e-mail]>

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Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Hello there ...

I'm trying ODIN (11/11 Binary), and I'm having the following message
with many programs :

                SYS1804: The system cannot find the file WINSPOOL.DRV.

Is there any configuration to make ODIN reach this file ??

Freecell, Notepad, Winhlp32 works OK ...
WinZip 7.0, Pilot gives the above error ...

In time, ODIN is a very good job, thanks for all you NetLabs guys ...

Greetings.

Cassio R Pellegrim
[e-mail]



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<!doctype html public "-//w3c//dtd html 4.0 transitional//en">
<html>
Hello there ...
<p>I'm trying ODIN (11/11 Binary), and I'm having the following message
with many programs :
<p><font color="#3333FF"><font
size=+1>
;
SYS1804: The system cannot find the file WINSPOOL.DRV.</font></font><font
color="#3333FF"><font size=+1></font></font>
<p><font color="#000000">Is there any configuration to make ODIN reach
this file ??</font><font color="#000000"></font>
<p><font color="#000000">Freecell, Notepad, Winhlp32 works OK ...</font>
<br><font color="#000000">WinZip 7.0, Pilot gives the above error
...</font><font color="#000000"></font>
<p><font color="#000000">In time, ODIN is a very good job, thanks for all
you NetLabs guys ...</font><font color="#000000"></font>
<p><font color="#000000">Greetings.</font><font color="#000000"></font>
<p><font color="#000000">Cassio R Pellegrim</font>
<br><font color="#000000">[e-mail]</font>
<br><font color="#3333FF"><font size=+1></font></font>
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From: [e-mail]                    12-Nov-99 12:52:00
  To: All                                               12-Nov-99 10:28:26
Subj: Re: Postscript Drivers

From: [e-mail] (John Hong)

Brian White ([e-mail]) wrote:
: I want to set up a Postscript Driver to print to .PS files and then
: convert to .PDF format. However the postscript driver contains emulations
: for many printers.  Can anyone tell me which device will produce the best
: quality colour postscript files?

    The generic PostScript driver does not do color so don't pick
that one if you want color.  I'm seeing good results with the Apple Color
LaserWriter 12/600, it does 600dpi and color.

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From: larso@commodore.                                  12-Nov-99 14:32:09
  To: All                                               12-Nov-99 14:25:26
Subj: Re: Who runs this country?

From: larso@commodore. (Lars P Ormberg)

As I stepped out onto the Stoop, I saw Stan Goodman write:
> On Fri, 12 Nov 1999 03:26:20, larso@commodore. (Lars P Ormberg) wrote:

> > Somebody's running an abusive monopoly?  Who?
>
> When you threaten people with severe retribution (e.g. "We'll cut off their
> air") if they dare to patronize your competitors, that is an abusive
> monopoly.

But all companies do this!  It's called entering a partnership.

If another company doesn't enter into a partnership with you, you can
withhold things.  Like sales.

Microsoft is not required to sell their products at any price to any people.
If Intel doesn't want to do what MS wants, MS doesn't have to support them.
Microsoft isn't the babysitter of whining computer companies.

Your problem is that when MS says "do this or you don't get to buy our
product", it has success behind it.  You will in all seriousness reply to me
that because MS is successful it has to play by a different set of rules.

>          Don't you read the newspapers? The recent court finding is that
> there is a monopoly, and that Microsoft abused its monopoly position

But when the finding says "there is a monopoly", it means nothing.

To say Microsoft "abused its position" is to say that, my God, Microsoft
competed in the market (and didn't fail at it).


--
Lars P. Ormberg     ICQ#:8827066
mailto:[e-mail]
The University of Lars:   http://www.ualberta.ca/~larso/

"The way you're bathed in light, reminds me of that night
God laid me down into your rose garden of trust and I was
swept away with nothin' left to say some helpless fool
yeah I was lost in a swoon of peace you're all I need to
find so when the time is right come to me sweetly, come
to me come to me..love will lead us, alright.  love will
lead us, she will lead us.  can you hear the dolphin's
cry?  see the road rise up to meet us its in the air we
breathe tonight love will lead us, she will lead us"
                            -Live, "The Dolphin's Cry"

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From: [e-mail]                           12-Nov-99 09:41:18
  To: All                                               12-Nov-99 14:25:26
Subj: Re: Who runs this country?

From: Bob Germer <[e-mail]>

On <80h8dj$bcn$[e-mail]>, on 11/12/99 at 02:32 PM,
   larso@commodore. (Lars P Ormberg) said:

> Microsoft is not required to sell their products at any price to any
> people. If Intel doesn't want to do what MS wants, MS doesn't have to
> support them. Microsoft isn't the babysitter of whining computer
> companies.

> Your problem is that when MS says "do this or you don't get to buy our
> product", it has success behind it.  You will in all seriousness reply
> to me that because MS is successful it has to play by a different set of
> rules.

Oh, my. Another idiot with no knowledge of Federal Law. It is unlawful to
charge different customers different prices for the same quantity of the
same product. Moreover, no one from a company, be it the corner candy
store or Microsoft can refuse to sell to some would be customers but not
others. MicroSoft learned this the hard way when its per processor
agreements were attacked. It learned that two tier pricing was found
illegal by Judge Jackson.

MS doesn't have to play to different rules. It has to play by the rules
which it has repeatedly failed to do.

--
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
---------------
Bob Germer from Mount Holly, NJ - E-mail: [e-mail]
Proudly running OS/2 Warp 4.0 w/ FixPack 12
MR/2 Ice Registration Number 67
Aut Pax Aut Bellum
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From: [e-mail]                                  12-Nov-99 21:41:09
  To: All                                               12-Nov-99 19:52:27
Subj: Re: Who runs this country?

From: [e-mail] (Stan Goodman)

On Fri, 12 Nov 1999 14:32:19, larso@commodore. (Lars P Ormberg) wrote:

> As I stepped out onto the Stoop, I saw Stan Goodman write:
> > On Fri, 12 Nov 1999 03:26:20, larso@commodore. (Lars P Ormberg) wrote:
>
> > > Somebody's running an abusive monopoly?  Who?
> >
> > When you threaten people with severe retribution (e.g. "We'll cut off
their
> > air") if they dare to patronize your competitors, that is an abusive
> > monopoly.
>
> But all companies do this!  It's called entering a partnership.

=;-/8

I don't think the judge sees it that way. A vendor-buyer relationship is
not a partnership.

> If another company doesn't enter into a partnership with you, you can
> withhold things.  Like sales.
>
> Microsoft is not required to sell their products at any price to any people.
> If Intel doesn't want to do what MS wants, MS doesn't have to support them.
> Microsoft isn't the babysitter of whining computer companies.



> Your problem is that when MS says "do this or you don't get to buy our
> product", it has success behind it.  You will in all seriousness reply to me
> that because MS is successful it has to play by a different set of rules.

You could make the same point about Standard Oil decades ago; I'm sure
Rockefeller did.

> >          Don't you read the newspapers? The recent court finding is that
> > there is a monopoly, and that Microsoft abused its monopoly position
>
> But when the finding says "there is a monopoly", it means nothing.

What it means is that a monopoly does have to avoid restraining trade.
Restraint of trade is a major no-no in the US; probably in Canada too. If
you mean that the finding is not a verdict, you are correct; on the other
hand, it has a lot to do with what the verdict will be. In all probability,
Microsoft understands that much better than you do, and will make an
attempt to cut a deal with DOJ, which will probably be the best thing for
everyone concerned. The deal, of course, will be heavily influenced by the
(far from meaningless) finding.

> To say Microsoft "abused its position" is to say that, my God, Microsoft
> competed in the market (and didn't fail at it).

Locking up a market is, in general, not permitted, for more or less obvious
reasons, which appear to be unclear to you. Wait until the verdict.

Restraint of trade is not competition; it is in fact anti-competitive. I
have not the foggiest notion what exercises you so. We all have to wait and
see how the case plays out.

I understand that it is your belief that a trader is permitted to do
virtually anything that does not involve bloodshed. That has not been true
for over a century.

I have to abandon this thread to others that have more patience with it
than I.

-------------
Stan Goodman
Qiryat Tiv'on
Israel

E-mail sent to [e-mail] will, of course, not reach me. Sorry.
Send E-mail to: domain: hashkedim dot com, username: stan.


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From: [e-mail]                                  12-Nov-99 15:53:21
  To: All                                               12-Nov-99 19:52:27
Subj: Re: Please HELP! Folder Class Object Problem with Warp4 - prize for

From: Dave <[e-mail]>

I have tried that util many times, to no avail.

Raphael Tennenbaum wrote:

> Dave <[e-mail]> wrote:
>
> >Thanks for your help, but the script did NOT fix the problem.  It ran
through all
> >the folders on my drives, but still none of my folders had icon view as a
default.
> >In fact, it is still IMPOSSIBLE to set ANY default view, not just ICON
VIEW.
> >
> >Must I resort to rebuilding os2.ini and os2sys.ini ?
> >
>
> Before you do that (and perhaps should have done this before
> you did the other stuff) hasten to
>
>    http://www.os2ss.com/information/kelder/#WPTOOLS
>
> and download Henk Kelder's latest WPTOOLS, an absolutely
> indispensible set of (freeware) tools for maintaining your
> ini files.  Carefully read the CHECKINI documentation, then
> run CHECKINI and see if that's fixed your problem.  THen
> come back and let us know how it went....
>
> --
> Ray Tennenbaum        '99 YZF-R6
> readme@ http://www.ray-field.com

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From: [e-mail]                                  12-Nov-99 15:58:25
  To: All                                               12-Nov-99 19:52:27
Subj: Re: Please HELP! Folder Class Object Problem with Warp4 - prize for

From: Dave <[e-mail]>

Brad BARCLAY wrote:

> Dave wrote:
> >
> > Thanks for your help, but the script did NOT fix the problem.  It ran
through all
> > the folders on my drives, but still none of my folders had icon view as a
default.
> > In fact, it is still IMPOSSIBLE to set ANY default view, not just ICON
VIEW.
> >
> > Must I resort to rebuilding os2.ini and os2sys.ini ?
>
>         Hmmm - I think that might still be a bit extreme.  What might work
is
> to simply deregister and re-register the WPFolder class.  That would
> hopefully set it back to its defaults - but to be ohnest, I don't know
> what it would do to or for your folder instances :).
>

Thats worth a try... now how do I do that?


>
>         Something you can try to see if it will help is a non-destructive
> MAKEINI.  Run it from within the WPS (through an OS/2 Command prompt
> window), and rebuild your OS2SYS.INI.  Running it from under the WPS is
> generally onn-destructive, and it *might* help.
>

If I do this, will I need to reboot to see if it works?  Rebuilding os2sys.ini
and
replacing my current one will or will not lose my desktop settings etc?


>
>         One query:  do you have any third-party add-on tools installed which
> override the default WPFolder object?  Anything like Object Desktop or
> anything?
>

Yes, I have OD 2.0.1 installed

However, the zip file "folders" open just fine, its just that normal folders
dont open
normally.


>
>         I still think you can fix things (with some help) without resorting
to
> anything hugely drastic.  If the above doesn't help any, let me know and
> I'll pull out my OS/2 WPS programming reference sometime this weekend
> and whip up an EXE for you which will (hopefully :) fix the problem.
>

I suppose if I can rebuild my folder class from ground up, I can always
Reinstall OD
without much hassle.

And to all those of you who are making suggestions to help me, thank you very
much!  My
invitation for 50MB free web server space stands to anyone who wants to email
me or find
me on EFNET and discuss arrangements.

Thanks!

-Dave
Warpedcow on EFNET
http://warpedcow.tsx.org
[e-mail]

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From: [e-mail]                                12-Nov-99 15:12:07
  To: All                                               12-Nov-99 19:52:27
Subj: BootOS2 v9.26 causes SingleQ$ exception

From: "Alex Bell" <[e-mail]>

I can get bootos2 9.26 to install to 2 floppies and can boot from them.  But
now I have a much more serious problem.  I deleted Windows 98 from drive C
and installed bootos2 there, but when I try to boot from it (using Boot
Manager) it stalls and give me a SingleQ$ exception.  I am certain that the
problem is due to BootOS2 because I also installed BootOS2 on drive F, and
got the same result.  I had a minimal installation of an earlier version of
BootOS2 on F before, and had no problem booting from it.

I installed type=wps with the installations with which I am having problems,
so I suppose I should try to use the minimal installation to see if that
works.  Or I could try leaving out the VDM and other options to see if that
makes any difference.

Very disappointing and frustrating.  Can anyone give me any other
suggestions?

Regards, Alex




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From: [e-mail]                             12-Nov-99 22:11:13
  To: All                                               12-Nov-99 19:52:27
Subj: Re: VPN

From: [e-mail] (Mark Dodel)

Check out Tunnel/2 at http://www.fx.dk/tunnel/  It is the only VPN I
know for OS/2.

Mark

On Thu, 11 Nov 1999 03:53:21, Daniel Tulloch <[e-mail]>
wrote:

-)Anyone know of a VPN client for OS/2 compatible or equivalent to
-)CheckPoint's VPN client?
-)
-)Thanks,
-)
-)Dan
-)


//---------------------------------------------------------
// From the Desk of: Mark Dodel, RN, BSN, MBA
//             Healthcare Computer Consultant
//                   [e-mail]
//    http://home.ptd.net/~madodel
//
//  For a VOICE in the future of OS/2
//             http://www.os2voice.org/index.html
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From: [e-mail]                                    12-Nov-99 22:26:25
  To: All                                               12-Nov-99 21:25:08
Subj: Re: Can OS/2 users grow up and think like Linux users?

From: [e-mail] (Pierre Jelenc)

Raphael Tennenbaum <raphaelt @ worldnet.att.net> writes:
>
>   Some people report that drag'n'drop or moving files isn't
>   working any more. I suspect this is related to changes to
>   the new "File exists" dialog. Disable that dialog in
>   "Workplace Shell". If the problem does not go away, mail
>   me if you've found something interesting, but other
>   than that, I don't know what the problem is.

Ah, right. It's the "Replace confirmation dialogs" under "File
operations" that is the culprit. Thanks.

> PS: I *need* Three Brass Balls.  Any chance there's a sample MP3
> anywhere?

Indeed. Best is to follow the links at www.web-ho.com/sounds/pawnshop.html
or go directly to www.mp3.com/pawnshop

Pierre
--
Pierre Jelenc                  | The Cucumbers' "Total Vegetility" is out!
                               |  Pawnshop's "Three Brass Balls" is out!
The New York City Beer Guide   |      RAW Kinder's "CD EP" is out!
   http://www.nycbeer.org      | Home Office Records http://www.web-ho.com

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From: [e-mail]                        12-Nov-99 23:47:27
  To: All                                               12-Nov-99 21:25:08
Subj: Re: Theta Band Software announces the distribution of MMPack through

From: [e-mail] (John Poltorak)

In <[e-mail]>, Aaron Lawrence <[e-mail]> writes:
>Julien Pierre wrote:
>
>> Theta Band Software's Multimedia Pack for OS/2 is now available for
>> ordering
>> through Mensys at http://www.mensys.nl .
>
>I had a look at this, and it's cool, but the things in it aren't really
>compelling to me. There are more pressing problems with MMOS/2 such as the
>lack of much PCI soundcard support. IMHO.

I'm looking for an excuse to buy this, but don't really see what it gives
me...

Now if it was guaranteed to set up sound on my diskless IBM Network Station
I would probably give it a try.


--
John

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From: [e-mail]                                12-Nov-99 18:51:12
  To: All                                               12-Nov-99 21:25:08
Subj: Re: BootOS2 v9.26 causes SingleQ$ exception

From: "Alex Bell" <[e-mail]>

On Fri, 12 Nov 1999 15:12:15 -0500 (EST), Alex Bell wrote:

>I can get bootos2 9.26 to install to 2 floppies and can boot from them.  But
>now I have a much more serious problem.  I deleted Windows 98 from drive C
>and installed bootos2 there, but when I try to boot from it (using Boot
>Manager) it stalls and give me a SingleQ$ exception.  I am certain that the
>problem is due to BootOS2 because I also installed BootOS2 on drive F, and
>got the same result.  I had a minimal installation of an earlier version of
>BootOS2 on F before, and had no problem booting from it.
>
>I installed type=wps with the installations with which I am having problems,
>so I suppose I should try to use the minimal installation to see if that
>works.  Or I could try leaving out the VDM and other options to see if that
>makes any difference.
>
>Very disappointing and frustrating.  Can anyone give me any other
>suggestions?
>
>Regards, Alex
>
I'm following up to  my own posting here.  I can get bootos2 to install and
boot using type=pm, but not type=wps.  Any fix?




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From: [e-mail]                                  12-Nov-99 18:03:17
  To: All                                               12-Nov-99 21:25:08
Subj: Re: UPDATE: Re: I can no longer live with OS/2

From: "Michael K Greene" <[e-mail]>

On Fri, 12 Nov 1999 15:34:58 GMT, Matt Hickman
wrote:

>In article <[e-mail]>,
>  "Michael K Greene" <[e-mail]> wrote:
>> On Wed, 10 Nov 1999 20:45:17 GMT, Matt Hickman wrote:
>>
>> >CSD level at UN00000_.
>>
>> >Is there a CSD for TCP/IP for Warp v 4.00????
>>
>> Yes, UN10001.
>
>Is this CSD publically available?  I've looked and cannot find it
>in the usual places.

ftp://ftp.software.ibm.com/ps/products/tcpip/fixes/v4.1os2/un01001/english-us/

>--
>Matt Hickman
>I don't even see how a four-dimensional coffee cup
>could even hold coffee, much less a whole galaxy.
>              - Robert A. Heinlein (1907-1988)
>
>
>Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
>Before you buy.

Michael K Greene <[e-mail]>     |      OS/2 Warp / Linux / Win95-311



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From: [e-mail]                               13-Nov-99 01:06:28
  To: All                                               12-Nov-99 21:25:08
Subj: Re: Sound Cards and OS/2

From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Bj=F8rn?= Vermo <[e-mail]>

Jerry Prather wrote:

> ...  On the AOpen site there is (supposedly) a driver
> for OS/2.  I downloaded it, and called AOpen tech support to
> confirm that it was in fact an auto-unpack file (I don't like
> clicking on .exe files without knowing what's going to happen).
> But when I double click on the file, I get a very Win 3.1 looking
> error box that says "Unexpected DOS error 23".

Try UNZIP -v on the file to see if it is in a normal zip format.
Usually, OS/2 unzip will work fine with Windows self-extracting
files.


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