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From: [e-mail]                             22-Oct-99 16:15:04
  To: All                                               23-Oct-99 04:42:00
Subj: 2 questions.....

From: [e-mail]

1) Does the java version of ICQ run under
OS/2???? If not, is there a version of ICQ
that I can get to run under OS/2???

2) I have a Promise Ultra66 IDE controller card
and Ultra66 hard drive running under windows98. I am switching
back to OS/2. I checked the promise web page and
they don't have an OS/2 driver yet. Has anyone heard
anything about when (or if) there is going to be
a driver released?? Or is there any other 3rd party
driver that I might be able to use instead??
I have emailed promise but they have not gotten back
to me yet.

TIA


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From: [e-mail]               22-Oct-99 09:48:26
  To: All                                               23-Oct-99 04:42:01
Subj: Re: I can no longer live with OS/2

From: "Kim Cheung" <[e-mail]>

On Fri, 22 Oct 1999 07:00:01 GMT, [e-mail] wrote:

>NS461 doesn't seem to
>be changed, but just less crash prone and thus the negative sides of the
>strange design do not show up and the program is really useable

No.  I believe 4.61 has a very different design when compared to 4.04.   I
was told that they did it one way and found that it really didn't work and
this time they did it "differently".   I don't know the detail, however, but
the effect shows.   4.61 (beta) is quite stable - whereas 4.04 really wasn't.


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From: [e-mail]               22-Oct-99 09:50:14
  To: All                                               23-Oct-99 04:42:01
Subj: Re: 2ND UPDATE [Re: I can no longer live with OS/2

From: "Kim Cheung" <[e-mail]>

On Fri, 22 Oct 1999 00:50:59 -0400, Dale Erwin wrote:

>I backed up my config.sys file then eliminated all references to
>IBMCOBOL in the file and re-booted and VIOLA.  But now I am without my
livelihood
>tool.

If it's only libpath that's affected, you can set up a CMD file to utilize
the BEGINPATH and ENDPATH facility to do that.   VC 4.0 does that to assure
that dlls don't get crobbled.


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From: [e-mail]                               22-Oct-99 16:48:27
  To: All                                               23-Oct-99 04:42:01
Subj: OK, I must be getting spoiled <g> so let me ask for more ...

From: [e-mail] (M.P. van Dobben de Bruijn)


Working on a document in IBMWorks I had some
problem reading in some scanned bigger TIF-files as
a picture to import. So I decided to take the other route
and push those files into the clipboard first from an appli-
cation where I could open them, switch to IBMWorks and
paste them onto the desired location from the clipboard then.

Of course the way to open those files in this beauty OS <g>
with great elegance was to right-click on their icon and select
the desired application from the menu popping-up. OS/2 is a joy
to work with everyday. But then I suddenly realized that perhaps
some faster / easier and less-clicks route could exist or be created.

Isn't there a facility in Warp (or an utility if it must be) that allows me
to right-click on a files icon and then simply select the option to put
the contents into the clipboard without the need to open an app first?

Regards from Leeuwarden
Peter van Dobben de Bruijn
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From: [e-mail]                               22-Oct-99 16:48:27
  To: All                                               23-Oct-99 04:42:01
Subj: Re: I can no longer live with OS/2

From: [e-mail] (M.P. van Dobben de Bruijn)

> [...]

>> When I bought this computer (AMD K6-2 400, 256MB RAM, 8.2GB HDD, 1.5GB
>> SyJet Cartridge Drive) from Indelible Blue almost a year ago, it came
>> with Warp 4 pre-installed and had Netscape Communicator 4.04 installed.
>> NC404 worked just fine for about 6 weeks and one day just refused to
>> function properly.  I consistently got an error message saying that
>>"whatever" server could not be found, there is no DNS entry.  I have

> this seems to be a configuration problem of the "dial other internet
> providers", here I think the domain server address is not correct.

Would the "consistenly" not being able to find an DNS-entry for
whatever server not point to a problem with the configuration of
the lookup-DNS-servers? Sounds like a problem with that changed
on this box or at the ISP. If I would have to look I would look there first.

Regards from Leeuwarden
Peter van Dobben de Bruijn
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From: [e-mail]                              22-Oct-99 11:37:07
  To: All                                               23-Oct-99 04:42:01
Subj: Re: 2 questions.....

From: "Jeff D. Roesner" <[e-mail]>

<[e-mail]> wrote in message news:7uq2i8$3t7$[e-mail]...
> 1) Does the java version of ICQ run under
> OS/2???? If not, is there a version of ICQ
> that I can get to run under OS/2???

Yes.  It works fine even on my 486, albeit very slow.  Much nicer on my new
Solaris box...



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From: [e-mail]                           22-Oct-99 12:51:19
  To: All                                               23-Oct-99 04:42:01
Subj: Re: Modems (again?)

From: Bob Germer <[e-mail]>

On <[e-mail]>, on 10/22/99
at 02:19 PM,
   [e-mail] (Annie K.) said:

> :if it says on the box that it works with DOS, Win 95, 98, NT
> :and Macintosh does that mean it's a real modem and will
> :also work with OS/2?

>  Yes.

Bad answer. The answer should be maybe. Not all external modems are true
modems. Some external modems are USB, not serial port.


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Bob Germer from Mount Holly, NJ - E-mail: [e-mail]
Proudly running OS/2 Warp 4.0 w/ FixPack 12
MR/2 Ice Registration Number 67
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From: [e-mail]                                22-Oct-99 12:28:03
  To: All                                               23-Oct-99 04:42:01
Subj: Now that I have Netscape 4.61

From: Dale Erwin <[e-mail]>

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Is it possible to import my address book and bookmarks from ver 2.02?
--
Dale Erwin
Dallas, Texas
<A HREF="http://www.geocities.com/dale_erwin/index.html">


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From: [e-mail]                               22-Oct-99 15:28:25
  To: All                                               23-Oct-99 04:42:01
Subj: Re: Sending Binary Files via sendmail?

From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Bj=F8rn?= Vermo <[e-mail]>

bosmith wrote:

> I am running Warp v3.0 with the IBM TCPIP stack.  I use sendmail to
> email text reports to users and it works quite well.  I now have a need
> to send a binary file (an Excel spreadsheet) and find that sendmail
> won't deliver it properly.
>

Is it sendmail, or is it something onyour tranfer path?
You must have the proper MIME-headers in order to send binary data,
otherwise the default is US-ASCII and you risk that some software in your
transmission path just strips off the eighth bit.

Try to include the headers
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: application/x-excel
Content-Transfer-Encoding: binary

and see how that works. If the receiver is not able to save or view that
properly, you may need to prosess it as an included file. There are
programs available which will convert a file to a MIME base 64 encoded
attachment. Look at hobbes for things called something with MIME or Base 64
in the name. The description will tell you which one you should take a
closer look at.

There is also the old UU encoding. It works most of the time, but is not
entirely safe. Besides, it is obsolete and not the currently recognized
standard.


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From: [e-mail]                               22-Oct-99 15:53:08
  To: All                                               23-Oct-99 04:42:01
Subj: Re: Floppy problems

From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Bj=F8rn?= Vermo <[e-mail]>

[e-mail] wrote:

> Dale Erwin <[e-mail]> said:
>
>
> As my post said, I've tried half a dozen different floppy drives om two
> different machines.  What is this track 0 thing?
>

It is the only track where there cannot be any faults at all if the diskette
shall be useable.

You ARE trying to format a HD diskette to 1.44MB, right? I have seen many
diskette drives which did not find out that the diskette was not HD, even
though the HD hole was missing. The error message is typical when you try to
format a 720kB diskette to 1.44. Or is it one of the rare 2.88 diskettes? They
have different magnetic characteristics, and might give the same symptom in a
1.44 drive.



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From: [e-mail]                          22-Oct-99 17:31:25
  To: All                                               23-Oct-99 04:42:01
Subj: Change font in MS Mail on OS/2 Warp 4

From: [e-mail]

I need a PROVEN solution to changing the font in Win3x applications,
such as MS Mail 3.5 and FileManager, so my users can see larger size
text in extreme resolutions,such as 1280 x something-or-other.

We have in our system.ini (c:\os2\mdos\winos2\):
fonts.fon=vgasys.fon
fixedfon.fon=vgafix.fon
oemfonts.fon=vgaoem.fon

I tried changing these settings, but then the programs wouldn't start.

These are the only fon files in the system folder
(c:\os2\mdos\winos2\system\):
arialb    coure    dialog    modern
msmail3        roman    script
serife    smalle    sserife    symbole
timesb    vga850    vga860    vga861
vga863    vga865    vgafix    vgaoem
vgasys

Tried adding SystemFont=<font.fon> in win.ini and succeeded in changing
the font for the title bar and menu, not the displayed messages or
files/folders.

Control Panel does not have any applets that I can determine will do
anything for me.

Please help me help my users.  Thanks.


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From: [e-mail]                           22-Oct-99 18:58:19
  To: All                                               23-Oct-99 04:42:01
Subj: Re: OK, I must be getting spoiled <g> so let me ask for more ...

From: [e-mail] (John Varela)

On Fri, 22 Oct 1999 16:48:55, [e-mail] (M.P. van Dobben de
Bruijn) wrote:

> Isn't there a facility in Warp (or an utility if it must be) that allows me
> to right-click on a files icon and then simply select the option to put
> the contents into the clipboard without the need to open an app first?

Pickup followed by Dump.

--
John Varela
to e-mail, remove - between mind and spring

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From: [e-mail]                             22-Oct-99 12:11:21
  To: All                                               23-Oct-99 04:42:01
Subj: Re: Now that I have Netscape 4.61

From: "David T. Johnson" <[e-mail]>


Dale Erwin wrote:
>
> Is it possible to import my address book and bookmarks from ver 2.02?
> --

I think that the 4.x install does this automatically.  But, if it
doesn't, just copy address.htm and bookmark.htm from your netscape v2.02
directory to the new directory for 4.x which will be something like
X:\netscape\users\irwin.

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From: [e-mail]                          22-Oct-99 19:35:16
  To: All                                               23-Oct-99 04:42:01
Subj: Re: Latest version of os2??!!

From: [e-mail] (Annie K.)

On Fri, 22 Oct 1999 11:46:29, "Grunt" <[e-mail]> wrote:

:I am interested in finding out which is the latest version of OS2
:Warp!!!!?????

 v4.

--
Klaatu barada nikto

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From: [e-mail]                    22-Oct-99 19:43:20
  To: All                                               23-Oct-99 04:42:01
Subj: Re: 2 questions.....

From: [e-mail] (John Hong)

[e-mail] wrote:

: 2) I have a Promise Ultra66 IDE controller card
: and Ultra66 hard drive running under windows98. I am switching
: back to OS/2. I checked the promise web page and
: they don't have an OS/2 driver yet. Has anyone heard
: anything about when (or if) there is going to be
: a driver released?? Or is there any other 3rd party
: driver that I might be able to use instead??

    There is a 3rd-party driver, DANIS506, you can find it at Hobbes
(http://hobbes.nmsu.edu)


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From: [e-mail]                             22-Oct-99 15:04:05
  To: All                                               23-Oct-99 04:42:01
Subj: Re: GAH! Got a Trap error on our print server! Help!

From: "Scott E. Garfinkle" <[e-mail]>

On Fri, 22 Oct 1999 14:35:32 GMT, Stewart Honsberger wrote:

>
>So - does this mean there's any chance of my problem being resolved?
If the original poster does what i said, then maybe so.


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From: [e-mail]                22-Oct-99 09:46:09
  To: All                                               23-Oct-99 04:42:01
Subj: Re: UPDATE:  Re: I can no longer live with OS/2

From: John Youells <[e-mail]>

Dale Erwin <[e-mail]> wrote:

>I followed David's cook-book procedure to the letter.  Unfortunately
>the result was the same as always.  I thought sure that INI file
>editing was going to be the thing that turned it around, but no such
>luck!  The wording of the message is a little different in 4.61:
>
>    Netscape is unable to locate the server home.netscape.com.
>
>    Please check the server name and try again.
>
>After I receive the FP12 CD that I ordered, I am going to apply FP12
>plus
>the fixes for MPTS and TCP/IP then repeat the procedure.  I will post
>those results at that time.
>
>Is it possible for 4.61 and 2.02 to coexist on the same machine?
>--
>Dale Erwin
>Dallas, Texas
><A HREF="http://www.geocities.com/dale_erwin/index.html">

Yes - I have 2.02, 4.04 and 4.61 all running on the same machine. I often run
2.02 and 4.61 (or 4.04)at the same time. 4.61 and 4.04 won't run at the same
time because they share some directories. 2.02 uses smartcache (Java cache)
and
4.61 uses the netscape cache.



John Youells
LifeStream Computing

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From: [e-mail]                          22-Oct-99 13:36:04
  To: All                                               23-Oct-99 04:42:01
Subj: java icq & ibm lava 1.1.8

From: "Rodney D. Myers" <[e-mail]>

is anyone experiencing trouble getting icq (java) to run with ibm java 1.1.8?

it was working before I upgraded to 1.1.8. now I don't get anything.

thanks


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From: [e-mail]                                22-Oct-99 16:57:19
  To: All                                               23-Oct-99 04:42:01
Subj: Re: Floppy problems

From: [e-mail]

Bj rn Vermo <[e-mail]> said:

>You ARE trying to format a HD diskette to 1.44MB, right? I have seen many
>diskette drives which did not find out that the diskette was not HD, even
>though the HD hole was missing. The error message is typical when you try to
>format a 720kB diskette to 1.44. Or is it one of the rare 2.88 diskettes?
They

The Maxells say mf2HD on them, and 1.44MB.  I got some new Verbatim mf2HD IBM
preformatted disks and tried again.  No dice.  I swapped drives and tried
again
(this forced a re-format).  I got through the utility disk process OK, but now
I
get those two lines of numbers (SYS error something or other) if I try to boot
with them.  So I went at it again with fresh Verbatim IBM formatted disks.
Still fails at boot.

I did a diskcomp on the Verbatims before both fresh and re-formatted and it
found them identical.

This is a hair puller.

Jim L
Remove XX from address to Email
Crooks and kooks will get guns regardless of laws.


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From: [e-mail]                                 22-Oct-99 16:14:03
  To: All                                               23-Oct-99 04:42:01
Subj: Re: Modems (again?)

From: tom <[e-mail]>


Wayne Bickell wrote:

> Hi guys,
>
> This has probably been covered before but I'm looking to
> buy a new modem and install this one in  another machine.
> I'm thinking of getting an external one this time because all
> the internal ones I can find are PCI WinModems. Anyway,
> if it says on the box that it works with DOS, Win 95, 98, NT
> and Macintosh does that mean it's a real modem and will
> also work with OS/2?
>
> I'm sure the answer is yes but before I run out and lay down
> my cash I'd like to be double sure :-)
>
> Any pointers wil be appreciated.
>
> Cheers
>
> Wayne

Hi Wayne, I have/use AOpen 56k ISA modem with jumpers for$48.ooplus
shipping, shipping a modem to Japan would cost about $10-12.oo

Or get it there, get a "AOpen FM56ITU/2" these work excelent
with OS/2 both Warp 3, 4.x

> --

--
Tom Street
920-693-2824

   S E M C O
         Street Electric Manufacturing Company
      Mfg. of the QuadJoy mouse for quadriplegics
      and people with high mobility impairments.

         see it at  http://www.quadjoy.com


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From: [e-mail]                              22-Oct-99 21:25:17
  To: All                                               23-Oct-99 04:42:01
Subj: Re: 2 questions.....

From: [e-mail]

> 2) I have a Promise Ultra66 IDE controller card
> and Ultra66 hard drive running under windows98. I am switching
> back to OS/2. I checked the promise web page and
> they don't have an OS/2 driver yet. Has anyone heard
> anything about when (or if) there is going to be
> a driver released?? Or is there any other 3rd party
> driver that I might be able to use instead??
> I have emailed promise but they have not gotten back
> to me yet.
>

Welcome back to the OS/2 users.

I'm not a real technical guy, but wouldn't a drive controller operate
beneath the level of the operating system?  Even if the promise has some
sort of special features that kick in with Win95, I would have to assume
that it was backwards compatible with other IDE cards, or else you
wouldn't even be able to boot from floppy.
--
Douglas Tatelman
[e-mail]
www.pickteam.com


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From: [e-mail]                                22-Oct-99 16:54:24
  To: All                                               23-Oct-99 04:42:01
Subj: Re: Now that I have Netscape 4.61

From: Dale Erwin <[e-mail]>

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"David T. Johnson" wrote:

> Dale Erwin wrote:
> >
> > Is it possible to import my address book and bookmarks from ver 2.02?
> > --
>
> I think that the 4.x install does this automatically.  But, if it
> doesn't, just copy address.htm and bookmark.htm from your netscape v2.02
> directory to the new directory for 4.x which will be something like
> X:\netscape\users\irwin.

All it asked me was did I want to convert my Web Explorer bookmarks.  Anyway
I was able to copy
the bookmarks but not the address book.  I copied it into the directory, but
it still doesn't come up.
So I added a couple of addresses to the address book from inside Netscape
and went to look for the
file and can find it nowhere.
--
Dale Erwin
Dallas, Texas
<A HREF="http://www.geocities.com/dale_erwin/index.html">


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From: [e-mail]                                 22-Oct-99 21:56:26
  To: All                                               23-Oct-99 04:42:01
Subj: Re: OK, I must be getting spoiled <g> so let me ask for more ...

From: [e-mail] (David LaRue)

  Hello Peter,

  Ideally you would drag the TIFF Icon into your application's document and
that
would be it.  Since you are having problems with that, perhaps you can drag
the
TIFF to the clipboard app.  I'm not sure where it is in the folders.  Put it
someplace
convienient like the desktop or the toolbar and then drag and drop to your
hearts
content.

  This works for apps that are WPS aware and understand the object you are
trying to drop onto it.  Printing is a good example.

  Enjoy,

  David LaRue

In <[e-mail]>,
[e-mail] (M.P. van Dobben de Bruijn) writes:
>
>
>Working on a document in IBMWorks I had some
>problem reading in some scanned bigger TIF-files as
>a picture to import. So I decided to take the other route
>and push those files into the clipboard first from an appli-
>cation where I could open them, switch to IBMWorks and
>paste them onto the desired location from the clipboard then.
>
>Of course the way to open those files in this beauty OS <g>
>with great elegance was to right-click on their icon and select
>the desired application from the menu popping-up. OS/2 is a joy
>to work with everyday. But then I suddenly realized that perhaps
>some faster / easier and less-clicks route could exist or be created.
>
>Isn't there a facility in Warp (or an utility if it must be) that allows me
>to right-click on a files icon and then simply select the option to put
>the contents into the clipboard without the need to open an app first?
>
>Regards from Leeuwarden
>Peter van Dobben de Bruijn
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From: [e-mail]                  22-Oct-99 15:56:00
  To: All                                               23-Oct-99 04:42:01
Subj: Re: java icq & ibm lava 1.1.8

From: [e-mail]

starts and runs fine but leaks like crazy and locks up the puter on
close unless i kill the jre

The Operating System/2 Version is 4.00 Revision 9.035
JDK 1.1.8 IBM build o118-19990910
1280x1024 16 mil 16" vis monitor
Netscape 4.61 128bit GA
P200 96 meg  ATI 3dExpressions+ 4meg
IBM GRADD .80 driver
DSL 1.544 Mb/s connect



 <[e-mail]>, on 10/22/99
   at 01:36 PM, "Rodney D. Myers" <[e-mail]> said:

|>is anyone experiencing trouble getting icq (java) to run with ibm
|>java 1.1.8?

|>it was working before I upgraded to 1.1.8. now I don't get anything.

|>thanks


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From: [e-mail]                                  22-Oct-99 22:54:29
  To: All                                               23-Oct-99 04:42:01
Subj: Re: java icq & ibm lava 1.1.8

From: Steve Drewell <[e-mail]>

On Fri, 22 Oct 1999 at 13:36 (PDT), "Rodney D. Myers"
<[e-mail]> wrote:

>is anyone experiencing trouble getting icq (java) to run with ibm java
>1.1.8?

>it was working before I upgraded to 1.1.8. now I don't get anything.


I can get it to work, but on exit my machine totally locks up and requires
a reboot. It never locked up with 1.1.7, but more than a few things have
changed on my machine recently so I can't say whether the problem lies
with 1.1.8 (with the latest fixes) or not.

Cheers,
Steve
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_____________________________________________________________
Using IBM OS/2 Warp 4 running 27 processes with 140 threads.
Machine uptime is 2 days, 22 hours, 45 mins and 8 secs.
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From: [e-mail]                                23-Oct-99 03:31:15
  To: All                                               23-Oct-99 04:42:02
Subj: Re: Modems (again?)

From: "OS/2 Fan" <[e-mail]>

I have an external Zoom V90 faxmodem and was pleasantly surprized to
find it works much more easily with Injoy 2.x under Warp 4 than it
does under RH Linux 6.1 or the horrific WinNT 4.0.  In any case the
Zoom works great and it saves a slot since it's a serial model.  It
was less than $100 in the USA and costs less than 30,000 drachmas
locally, in case anyone was wondering (I doubt anyone was...).  I
recommend it.
Regards,
Xtralarge OS/2 fan

Opinions expressed are mine only.  Ignore them and
killfile me.  Leave the University and/or my ISP alone,
I don't speak for them, they have nothing to do with it,
and they probably have more lawyers than you anyway.


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From: [e-mail]                               22-Oct-99 20:46:23
  To: All                                               23-Oct-99 04:42:02
Subj: Warp 3 Fixpack

From: jwp <[e-mail]>

I have just purchased Warp 3 blue spine and I am getting ready to
install.  What is the latest fixpack for this version, and will that
fixpack make W3 Y2K compliant?  Thank you.

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From: [e-mail]                          23-Oct-99 00:37:00
  To: All                                               23-Oct-99 04:42:02
Subj: Re: OK, I must be getting spoiled <g> so let me ask for more ...

From: [e-mail] (Andrew Stephenson)

In article <E45Q3.583$[e-mail]>
       [e-mail] "David LaRue" writes:

> [...] perhaps you can drag the TIFF to the clipboard app.  I'm
> not sure where it is in the folders.  [...]

My system (W4@FP10) has a clipboard viewer \OS2\CLIPOS2.EXE but
"all" it does is show clipboard contents.  Cutting to or pasting
from it do not seem to be options.
--
Andrew Stephenson

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From: [e-mail]                             22-Oct-99 18:06:00
  To: All                                               23-Oct-99 04:42:02
Subj: Re: Warp 3 Fixpack

From: "David T. Johnson" <[e-mail]>

jwp wrote:
>
> I have just purchased Warp 3 blue spine and I am getting ready to
> install.  What is the latest fixpack for this version, and will that
> fixpack make W3 Y2K compliant?  Thank you.

The latest fixpack is 42 but the fixtool will not apply any fixpack
greater than 40 to Warp 3 bluespine.  All fixpacks after 32 are Y2K
compliant.  IMO, the best v3 fixpack is 39 which, I think, you can still
download from IBM.  Fixpack 40 broke some Win-OS2 apps.

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From: [e-mail]                             22-Oct-99 18:02:14
  To: All                                               23-Oct-99 04:42:02
Subj: Re: Now that I have Netscape 4.61

From: "David T. Johnson" <[e-mail]>

Dale Erwin wrote:
>
> "David T. Johnson" wrote:
>
> > Dale Erwin wrote:
> > >
> > > Is it possible to import my address book and bookmarks from ver 2.02?
> > > --
> >
> > I think that the 4.x install does this automatically.  But, if it
> > doesn't, just copy address.htm and bookmark.htm from your netscape v2.02
> > directory to the new directory for 4.x which will be something like
> > X:\netscape\users\irwin.
>
> All it asked me was did I want to convert my Web Explorer bookmarks.  Anyway
> I was able to copy
> the bookmarks but not the address book.  I copied it into the directory, but
> it still doesn't come up.
> So I added a couple of addresses to the address book from inside Netscape
> and went to look for the
> file and can find it nowhere.

Both Netscape v2.02 and Communicator v4.x keep the address book in a
file called address.htm.  It is just an HTML file.  When you install
Communicator v4.x, it looks for the old v2.02 and, if it finds it, it
copys the bookmarks and addressbook into the new communicator v4.x
install.

This assumes that you are not installing communicator v4.x into the same
x:\netscape directory that Netscape v2.02 was in.  My advice is to put
v4.x into a new directory with a different name than Netscape v2.02.  If
you install v4.x into the same directory that v2.02 is in, this is a bad
idea but the installer should not have overwritten the address.htm file
since it goes in a different directory with v4.x as compared with v2.02.

Anyway, look in the v2.02 directory and find the address.htm file.  Copy
this into the new v4.x directory and you should have you address book.
If you can not find the file, I don't know what to say.  It is possible
to delete your old bookmarks and address book if you do an uninstall of
v2.02 AND confirm to the uninstaller that you want to delete the
bookmarks and address book.  If you did this, they are gone unless you
undelete them.  But, you really have to be determined to delete them
because it does not default to this.

If you did not delete them, just keep looking.  The files must be in
there somewhere!  Note that if you copy them to v4.61, they will still
be in the v2.02 directory also.  You can use both browsers if you want
to.

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From: [e-mail]                                22-Oct-99 21:11:27
  To: All                                               23-Oct-99 04:42:02
Subj: How do you expand a partition?

From: [e-mail]

I was just looking at a drive via FDISK and re-discovered a 30 mb freespace on
it.  A help seems to say you can expand an existing partition into freespace,
but I don't see where it says how.

Did I misread it?  Can you expand a partition?  If so, how?

Jim L
Remove XX from address to Email
Crooks and kooks will get guns regardless of laws.


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From: [e-mail]                         22-Oct-99 22:12:15
  To: All                                               23-Oct-99 04:42:02
Subj: Multiprocessor Support

From: "Richard Hanson" <[e-mail]>

Quick question: Does OS/2 Warp v.4 support dual processors? I was thinking of
installing it on a Tyan Tomcat 4.02 with dual P300's.

--
Best regards,

       Rich Hanson


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From: [e-mail]                             23-Oct-99 01:53:26
  To: All                                               23-Oct-99 04:42:02
Subj: Re: FS: Fully equipped Server95

From: [e-mail] (Dennis Smith)

In article [e-mail] SPAMS...
>
> Server95@E-bay

You already said that a couple of threads ago ...

And turn off your damn HTML!  We don't use that on newsgroups.


--
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 [e-mail]
 AOL screen name: PentiumPS2

 "THE PS/2 PAGE"
 http://members.tripod.com/~ps2page

 8642-0D0, 9595-3PT, 8595-0KD, 9590-KLG, 8580-A31, 9577-BTG, 8573-121

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From: [e-mail]                                22-Oct-99 21:29:15
  To: All                                               23-Oct-99 04:42:02
Subj: Re: Warp 3 Fixpack

From: [e-mail] (Jerry McBride)

In article <[e-mail]>,
"David T. Johnson" <[e-mail]> wrote:
>jwp wrote:
>>
>> I have just purchased Warp 3 blue spine and I am getting ready to
>> install.  What is the latest fixpack for this version, and will that
>> fixpack make W3 Y2K compliant?  Thank you.
>
>The latest fixpack is 42 but the fixtool will not apply any fixpack
>greater than 40 to Warp 3 bluespine.  All fixpacks after 32 are Y2K
>compliant.  IMO, the best v3 fixpack is 39 which, I think, you can still
>download from IBM.  Fixpack 40 broke some Win-OS2 apps.

Visit Hobbes and grab a copy of B110.ZIP and use it before applying fixpaks
greater than #40 to Warp 3.0...

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From: [e-mail]                           23-Oct-99 02:19:03
  To: All                                               23-Oct-99 04:42:02
Subj: Re: what brand and model PC today to buy for OS/2 ?

From: Zeus Paleologos <[e-mail]>

While I am appreciative of the suggestions made so far via post and
email, I would like to re-emphasize several of my non-negotiable
purchase preconditions:

- brand name equipment and, I might add, of proven technology
    and reliability.  Indeed, reliability might be my number 1
    requirement.
- factory-assembled.  I have been the route of building your
    own PC several times.  I will not do it again.
- locally-available (not mail-order).  Proximinity to dealer is
   important when handling problems for me.  No DELLs.

To re-focus any follow-ups, here again is my original post since
some news servers are expiring articles after only a day or two:
                ________________________________________

I have been a user of OS/2 since 1993 and want to buy a PC to replace
my old Packard Bell Pentium 75 which is now about 4 years old.  This
PC has a 1.2G HDD and has been setup for years to boot Win95 and Linux
in addition to OS/2 though OS/2 is loaded 99+% of the time.

The PC that I buy will be connected to the Internet full-time (24&7),
primarily running a web server though I will also use it for light-duty
desktop work. I will be attaching a parallel-port ZIP drive I own.  I
also hope to add to the PC if it does not already have the following
equipment:  a large HDD, a color inkjet printer, a DVD drive,
a highspeed modem, audio card, 19" monitor, and scanner.  I may want to
also add:  a network card, a CD-RW drive and a video camera.  I expect
to buy a brand name, factory-assembled, locally-available (i.e., not
mail-order) product.

I have a few questions:

1 - Regarding OS/2, does it matter whether I choose a PC model with
    a Celeron, Pentium II or Pentium III processor ?

2 - Does OS/2 handle large ( > 2GBytes) HDD's ?  I understand it is a
    major headache to configure a PC and partition a large HDD today
    to allow the booting and running of either Win98, Linux, or OS/2
    on the same unit.

3 - Do Hewlett-Packard (Pavillon) model PCs run OS/2 acceptably ?  I
    notice that no OS/2 drivers are available for the R series HP
    printer/scanner/copiers.  Should I forget these kind of all-in-one
    units if I plan to run OS/2?

4 - Should I plan on installing Warp 4 on whatever I get or will
    Warp 3 still be a possibility ?

5 - Is OS/2 support available for the range and kinds of peripherals
    in variety that I have indicated I will eventually add to my system?

Regarding these questions, I would be grateful to anyone who could
provide me with opinions, suggestions, references, or URL's that might
be helpful in making a purchase decision.

Thanks,


ZP

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From: [e-mail]                                  23-Oct-99 02:49:25
  To: All                                               23-Oct-99 04:42:02
Subj: Re: java icq & ibm lava 1.1.8

From: [e-mail] (David T. Anderson)

On Fri, 22 Oct 1999 23:47:26, [e-mail] (Jan Eri)
wrote:

> On Fri, 22 Oct 1999 20:36:09, "Rodney D. Myers" <[e-mail]>
> wrote:
> > is anyone experiencing trouble getting icq (java) to run with ibm java
1.1.8?
> > it was working before I upgraded to 1.1.8. now I don't get anything.
>
> Seems my experience is opposite from the others: I had lockups and trouble
> before 1.1.8, but now everything is perfect.

It worked okay for me, both before and after 1.1.8....aside from a
memory leak that went away when I upped my RAM to 128M.

Have you tried the new native ICQ/2 by Momotech?  It's not quite as
fully featured [ha!] as ICQJava, but it does the basics very well....

David T. Anderson
Calgary, Alberta
http://www.agt.net/public/dtander/

Using ProNews/2 for OS/2 Warp

**NOSPAM**  To email me, remove the 's' from my address...

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From: [e-mail]                      23-Oct-99 05:24:12
  To: All                                               23-Oct-99 04:42:02
Subj: Re: I can no longer live with OS/2

From: Martin Nisshagen <[e-mail]>

[e-mail] [Deja.com - Before you buy.] -> comp.os.os2.misc:

» - I agree 100% with "skrise" in one of his posts: "isn't the promise of
» OS/2 to protect the system even from ill-behaved / poorly programmed
» apps?". Yes, it is, of course! But there are ways for the programmer to
» get around it: must be, because otherwise you couldn't write hardware
» drivers, for example. But also for common applications there are

Nope.

Applications (like Navigator and Communicator) runs in protected user mode.

Hardware drivers (on OS/2, NT4, BeOS and most UNICES *1) runs in kernel mode.

» - All this doesn't matter if the program has no errors :-)) And as far

True.

But to be realistic that will never happen (the OS must protect the rest of
the system and it's other running applications from such errors).

[*1]: The exception is micro kernel systems who also has it's drivers running
in protected user mode (like NextBSD and for grahpics/printer drivers NT 3.x).

Best regards,

m a r t i n | n

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:)
CS/CE, Chalmers, Sweden          ICQ UIN: 689662          2 x 300A @ 450 MHz
d4nisse-at-dtek-chalmers-se      home2.pp.sbbs.se/mn
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From: [e-mail]                  22-Oct-99 21:30:09
  To: All                                               23-Oct-99 04:42:02
Subj: Re: java icq & ibm lava 1.1.8

From: [e-mail]

In <TNkoV2GE2KH2-pn2-RIKVfUv2Zhdz@localhost>, on 10/23/99
   at 02:49 AM, [e-mail] (David T. Anderson) said:

|>Have you tried the new native ICQ/2 by Momotech?  It's not quite as
|>fully featured [ha!] as ICQJava, but it does the basics very
|>well....


only reason I keep  icq java around is for a couple of "chat" sessions
that happen every week...  as soon as chat is in java icq goes

icq/2 is very nice alpha code, well lets face it if it were MS it
would be released and worth 50 bux --
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accident as my spelling, please dont expect an appology
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From: [e-mail]                    22-Oct-99 21:16:06
  To: All                                               23-Oct-99 04:42:02
Subj: Re: Multiprocessor Support

From: "Graham C. Norris" <[e-mail]>

It supports the second processor in full boat-anchor mode.

Graham.

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From: [e-mail]                           23-Oct-99 04:33:24
  To: All                                               23-Oct-99 04:42:02
Subj: Re: 2 questions.....

From: [e-mail] (Lorne Sunley)

On Fri, 22 Oct 1999 21:25:34, [e-mail] wrote:

>
> > 2) I have a Promise Ultra66 IDE controller card
> > and Ultra66 hard drive running under windows98. I am switching
> > back to OS/2. I checked the promise web page and
> > they don't have an OS/2 driver yet. Has anyone heard
> > anything about when (or if) there is going to be
> > a driver released?? Or is there any other 3rd party
> > driver that I might be able to use instead??
> > I have emailed promise but they have not gotten back
> > to me yet.
> >
>
> Welcome back to the OS/2 users.
>
> I'm not a real technical guy, but wouldn't a drive controller operate
> beneath the level of the operating system?  Even if the promise has some
> sort of special features that kick in with Win95, I would have to assume
> that it was backwards compatible with other IDE cards, or else you
> wouldn't even be able to boot from floppy.
> --

Yes, the hardware controller does function beneath the level
of the operating system, but a device driver is required to
communicate the requests from the OS to the hardware controller.

The problems that happen usually occur when the a device
driver that is made to provide services for a number of nearly
equivalent devices (hardware disk controllers)

1) "thinks" that a special feature on a device is present
but on the device installed the feature is not present.

2) the device driver "thinks" that a special feature works
a certain way but it operates differently.

The device is "backwards compatible" and a device
driver that never ever uses the "special features" usually
works. It's only when the device driver mis-uses one of
the special features that the problems occur.

Lorne Sunley

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From: [e-mail]                                22-Oct-99 23:33:02
  To: All                                               23-Oct-99 04:42:02
Subj: Re: 2ND UPDATE [Re: I can no longer live with OS/2

From: Dale Erwin <[e-mail]>

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David McKenna wrote:

> On Fri, 22 Oct 1999 00:50:59 -0400, Dale Erwin wrote:
>
> >
> >I am posting this message from Netscape version 4.61, but I am not
> >sure congratulations are in order yet.
> >
> >I backed up my config.sys file then eliminated all references to
> >IBMCOBOL in the file and re-booted and VIOLA.  But now I am without my
livelihood
> >tool.
> >
> >What I thought about doing is going back and putting back one
> >item at a time until I come across the offending line/lines.
> >There are about 60 lines in that file that reference IBMCOBOL.
> >
> >Should this be reported to IBM as a defect in the VA COBOL
> >install program?  But, then, what good would it do.  And they
> >would probably want to charge me for making the report.
> >
>    Dale,
>
>   Well, at least you're getting somewhere. Definitely try putting one entry
> at a time back in to determine which one causes the problem. It may simply
be
> a matter of putting the entries in specific positions on each line.
>
>    Any line you removed which has *only* entries for COBOL (except for
> Device= lines) is most likely not the problem so I would just put all those
> back in. Concentrate on lines COBOL put entries in which have other paths as
> well. When you get to the offending entry, experiment with its' position on
> that line. Also look in the directory at the files therein. It's possible
> there is a file in that directory which is the same as another file
elsewhere
> on your system. OS/2 will use the one in the directory first in line. From
> the command prompt in the root directory type 'dir xxxxx.yyy /s' where
> xxxxx.yyy is a file in the offending directory. This will list all instances
> of that file on your drive. If more than one show up look at the directory
> listed on the one(s) not in the offending COBOL directory. This will give
you
> a clue as to which path entry you need to place COBOL entries around.
>
>    You might as well report this to both the IBM Netscape team and the VA
> COBOL people - they may already know how to deal with it and could help you
> out. Even if they don't, your effort to get everything working may help
> someone else with the same difficulty.
>
>    Keep us posted!
>
> Dave McKenna

By the time I read this, I had already finished.  My bood drive is C:
and Netscape (along with almose all other applications) is on E:.
I left all the COBOL only statements in just like you said.  On the
others, I moved all of the E:\IBMCOBOL\xxx entries after any entries
on C: drive.  I am now back up and 4.61 still seems to be working.
I am now going to try to bring up VA COBOL.  Probably should've done
that before writing this...  but I'll let you know.
--
Dale Erwin
Dallas, Texas
<A HREF="http://www.geocities.com/dale_erwin/index.html">


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From: [e-mail]                                22-Oct-99 23:59:29
  To: All                                               23-Oct-99 04:42:02
Subj: Re: Now that I have Netscape 4.61

From: Dale Erwin <[e-mail]>

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"David T. Johnson" wrote:

> Dale Erwin wrote:
> >
> > "David T. Johnson" wrote:
> >
> > > Dale Erwin wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Is it possible to import my address book and bookmarks from ver 2.02?
> > > > --
> > >
> > > I think that the 4.x install does this automatically.  But, if it
> > > doesn't, just copy address.htm and bookmark.htm from your netscape v2.02
> > > directory to the new directory for 4.x which will be something like
> > > X:\netscape\users\irwin.
> >
> > All it asked me was did I want to convert my Web Explorer bookmarks.
Anyway
> > I was able to copy
> > the bookmarks but not the address book.  I copied it into the directory,
but
> > it still doesn't come up.
> > So I added a couple of addresses to the address book from inside Netscape
> > and went to look for the
> > file and can find it nowhere.
>
> Both Netscape v2.02 and Communicator v4.x keep the address book in a
> file called address.htm.  It is just an HTML file.  When you install
> Communicator v4.x, it looks for the old v2.02 and, if it finds it, it
> copys the bookmarks and addressbook into the new communicator v4.x
> install.
>
> This assumes that you are not installing communicator v4.x into the same
> x:\netscape directory that Netscape v2.02 was in.  My advice is to put
> v4.x into a new directory with a different name than Netscape v2.02.  If
> you install v4.x into the same directory that v2.02 is in, this is a bad
> idea but the installer should not have overwritten the address.htm file
> since it goes in a different directory with v4.x as compared with v2.02.
>
> Anyway, look in the v2.02 directory and find the address.htm file.  Copy
> this into the new v4.x directory and you should have you address book.

Like I said, I did that.  After copying the file, however, when I go
into Netscape 4.61 and open the address book it has no entries in it.
After that, I added some entries to it from inside Netscape 4.61 and
then looked in the directory and could find no other file anywhere
that looked like it could be the address book, although those entries
that I added from inside Netscape still show up when I bring up the
address book inside Netscape.

This worked for me when I installed Netscape 4.04--just copied the two
files and VIOLA, there they were, but for 4.61 it only worked for the
Bookmark.htm file.

>
> If you can not find the file, I don't know what to say.  It is possible
> to delete your old bookmarks and address book if you do an uninstall of
> v2.02 AND confirm to the uninstaller that you want to delete the

I didn't mean I couldn't find it in the 2.02 directory.  I meant I
could find no address book file in the new 4.61 directory after I
had added addresses to it from inside Netscape 4.61.  The file I
copied from the 2.02 directory is there, but the entries for the
freshly-added addresses are not in it.  Yet, when I go back into
Netscape 4.61 and open the address book they do indeed show up,
even though none of the addresses in the file I copied show up.
So there is a file somewhere, I just haven't looked in the right
place.  It either has another name or is in another directory.

>
> bookmarks and address book.  If you did this, they are gone unless you
> undelete them.  But, you really have to be determined to delete them
> because it does not default to this.
>
> If you did not delete them, just keep looking.  The files must be in
> there somewhere!  Note that if you copy them to v4.61, they will still
> be in the v2.02 directory also.  You can use both browsers if you want
> to.

--
Dale Erwin
Dallas, Texas
<A HREF="http://www.geocities.com/dale_erwin/index.html">


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From: [e-mail]                                23-Oct-99 00:05:01
  To: All                                               23-Oct-99 04:42:02
Subj: Re: How do you expand a partition?

From: Dale Erwin <[e-mail]>

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[e-mail] wrote:

> I was just looking at a drive via FDISK and re-discovered a 30 mb freespace
on
> it.  A help seems to say you can expand an existing partition into
freespace,
> but I don't see where it says how.
>
> Did I misread it?  Can you expand a partition?  If so, how?
>
> Jim L
> Remove XX from address to Email
> Crooks and kooks will get guns regardless of laws.

If you expand the partition with FDISK you will lose all data.  As
I recall, with FDISK, you must delete the partition and redefine it.
You can use a product called Partition Magic to expand a partition
into existing freespace without losing data.
--
Dale Erwin
Dallas, Texas
<A HREF="http://www.geocities.com/dale_erwin/index.html">


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From: [e-mail]                                23-Oct-99 00:08:01
  To: All                                               23-Oct-99 04:42:02
Subj: Re: Multiprocessor Support

From: Dale Erwin <[e-mail]>

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Richard Hanson wrote:

> Quick question: Does OS/2 Warp v.4 support dual processors? I was thinking
of installing it on a Tyan Tomcat 4.02 with dual P300's.
>
> --
> Best regards,
>
>        Rich Hanson

Warp 4 client does not support multiple processors.  Warp Server Advanced
version 4 does support multiple processors.
--
Dale Erwin
Dallas, Texas
<A HREF="http://www.geocities.com/dale_erwin/index.html">


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From: [e-mail]                            22-Oct-99 22:54:25
  To: All                                               23-Oct-99 04:42:02
Subj: MSN as internet provider in Warp

From: "TCandell" <[e-mail]>

Any help in setting up MSN in warp would be appreciated.  Tech support at
MSN gave me some DNS addresses but I still can"t connect.

T. Candell


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From: [e-mail]                                 23-Oct-99 01:26:06
  To: All                                               23-Oct-99 05:17:27
Subj: Re: 2 questions.....

From: [e-mail] (Richard Steiner)

Here in comp.os.os2.misc, [e-mail] spake unto us, saying:

>1) Does the java version of ICQ run under
>OS/2???? If not, is there a version of ICQ
>that I can get to run under OS/2???

I use an interesting native OS/2 text-mode ICQ thingie occasionally
(when others make me play with ICQ) called micq, but I don't remember
where I got it.  I'll look around.

You can find some others in this directory on Hobbes:

  ftp://hobbes.nmsu.edu/pub/os2/apps/internet/chat/

Welcome back to OS/2, by the way.  :-)

--
   -Rich Steiner  >>>--->  [e-mail]  >>>---> Bloomington, MN
     OS/2 + Linux + BeOS + FreeBSD + Solaris + WinNT4 + Win95 + DOS
      + VMWare + Fusion + vMac + Executor = PC Hobbyist Heaven! :-)
 Mate, this parrot wouldn't VOOM if you put four million volts through it!

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From: [e-mail]                                 23-Oct-99 01:36:16
  To: All                                               23-Oct-99 05:17:27
Subj: Re: Change font in MS Mail on OS/2 Warp 4

From: [e-mail] (Richard Steiner)

Here in comp.os.os2.misc, [e-mail] spake unto us, saying:

>I need a PROVEN solution to changing the font in Win3x applications,
>such as MS Mail 3.5 and FileManager, so my users can see larger size
>text in extreme resolutions,such as 1280 x something-or-other.

Probably not directly useful, but the Matrox Millenium video drivers I
have came with a configuration object (MGA Settings) which allows the
selection of Small or Large fonts under WinOS2 (and Small/Medium/Large
for the PM desktop).  It helps a lot.

Perhaps your video drivers also have a similar adjustment in the OS/2
System settings object?

--
   -Rich Steiner  >>>--->  [e-mail]  >>>---> Bloomington, MN
     OS/2 + Linux + BeOS + FreeBSD + Solaris + WinNT4 + Win95 + DOS
      + VMWare + Fusion + vMac + Executor = PC Hobbyist Heaven! :-)
            "I am your king."  "Well, I didn't vote for you."

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From: [e-mail]                                 23-Oct-99 01:41:02
  To: All                                               23-Oct-99 05:17:27
Subj: Re: How do you expand a partition?

From: [e-mail] (Richard Steiner)

Here in comp.os.os2.misc, [e-mail] spake unto us, saying:

>I was just looking at a drive via FDISK and re-discovered a 30 mb
>freespace on it.  A help seems to say you can expand an existing
>partition into freespace, but I don't see where it says how.

I don't think you can do that with OS/S'2 FDISK and retain the data
intact, but I use Partition Magic for that sort of size adjustment
rather a lot.  That's one of the main reasons I bought it long ago.

This freeware DOS program might also be helpful:

  ftp://ftp.cdrom.com/pub/simtelnet/msdos/bootutil/presz131.zip

--
   -Rich Steiner  >>>--->  [e-mail]  >>>---> Bloomington, MN
     OS/2 + Linux + BeOS + FreeBSD + Solaris + WinNT4 + Win95 + DOS
      + VMWare + Fusion + vMac + Executor = PC Hobbyist Heaven! :-)
                Complimentary grain of salt  ---> . <---

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From: [e-mail]                                    22-Oct-99 17:48:20
  To: All                                               23-Oct-99 10:32:22
Subj: Re: How to Transfer File with serial port?

From: [e-mail] (James Knott)

In article <[e-mail]>,
[e-mail] (John Poltorak) wrote:

>At one time I came across an NDIS driver for a serial port, which in effect
means
>you could use the port as a slow network port defined as lan0 - lan9  in
>setup.cmd.
>
>Unfortunately I can't recall where I came across this file - it may have been
>included in something like LAN Distance.

That's where it is in Warp Connect and in Remote Office Services in
Warp 4.  If you have those installed, you can run *ANY* protocol
through the serial port.

Also in Warp Connect & Warp 4 is the "Parallel Port Adapter", which
will enable a network through a parallel port "Lap Link" cable.  I use
that here between my ThinkPad (with a token ring adapter for work) and
my home network (ethernet).  Works well, but slow.




--
E-mail [e-mail]
_________________________________________________________________________
The above opinions are my own and not those of ISM Corp., a subsidiary of
IBM Canada Ltd.

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From: doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net                     23-Oct-99 09:29:28
  To: All                                               23-Oct-99 10:32:22
Subj: Re: Floppy problems

From: doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net (Doug Bissett)

On Fri, 22 Oct 1999 20:57:39, [e-mail] wrote:

> The Maxells say mf2HD on them, and 1.44MB.  I got some new Verbatim mf2HD
IBM
> preformatted disks and tried again.  No dice.  I swapped drives and tried
again
> (this forced a re-format).  I got through the utility disk process OK, but
now I
> get those two lines of numbers (SYS error something or other) if I try to
boot
> with them.  So I went at it again with fresh Verbatim IBM formatted disks.
> Still fails at boot.
>
> I did a diskcomp on the Verbatims before both fresh and re-formatted and it
> found them identical.
>
> This is a hair puller.
>
> Jim L
> Remove XX from address to Email
> Crooks and kooks will get guns regardless of laws.
>
>

I am not sure if I understand you correctly, but if you just format a
diskette, with OS/2, and try to boot that diskette, you will get the
two SYS messages that you refer to. (OS/2 !! SYS01475 -> The file
OS2BOOT cannot be found, and  SYS2027: Insert a system diskette and
restart the system). That is, the OS/2 version of what you get, if you
try to boot a DOS formatted diskette, if there is no system installed
on it (Non-System disk or disk error Replace and strike any key when
ready), except, DOS puts the messages out in English, instead of
computerese. OS/2 does NOT install a bootable system, unless you build
one, with either the Create Utility Diskettes thing, or by using
another build program, such as BOOTOS2. The SYS messages are NOT a
diskette error, and are produced by the default boot code that is put
on the diskette. Of course, if you are talking about Disk 0, of the
four Utility diskettes, it should boot, but there has been some
discussion about a problem with doing that, under very specific
circumstances, which I have ignored, because I have never seen the
problem (check out DEJANEWS). You may need to use the SYSINSTX
program, to fix the boot records (You will find that in
x:\OS2IMAGE\DISK_0\SYSINSTX.COM, on the warp4 install CD-ROM, and
probably in the same place, for warp3).

To address your "diskette drive problem", if you need to reformat a
diskette, just because you changed to another diskette drive, there is
something wrong with one. or both, of those drives. The "track 0"
thing means that there is something wrong on track 0 of the diskette,
or the drive cannot read, or write, to that track. It could be caused
by many things:
1) The diskette has been physically damaged (look for scratches on the
outer edge of the diskette, on either side).
2) The drive is misaligned, and cannot seek to track 0.
3) The drive is defective, and cannot properly read, or write.
4) There may be a sensor, that senses the type of diskette (the 1.44
meg - HD, or 2HD - diskettes have a hole, opposite to the write
protect tab, and some drives have a sensor to detect that. If the
drive is not detecting the hole, it would assume that it is a 720K
diskette, and would set up to use the wrong record/playback levels,
which would cause your problem).
5) You could have a defective cable (the flat one). A broken ground
wire could cause your problem, or the signal wire that indicates the
correct record/playback levels could be broken.
6) Your drive string may not be terminated properly. Only the last
drive (the A: drive, which should be connected to the end of the
cable, not the middle) should be terminated. Two terminators, or no
terminators, could cause your problem. Some older drives have a plug
in module, and newer drives, generally, have a switch, or a jumper on
them for termination.
7) You may have a defective power connector.
8) You could have a bent connector pin under the cable connector
(either end, same symptoms as a broken cable).
9) The adapter card (or the one on the MB, if that is where it is)
could be defective.

I would eliminate 2, 3, and 4, since you have tried two different
drives, and there could be more things that could cause your problem.
I do not use Maxell, or Verbatim, diskettes, but I doubt if the brand
has anything to do with your problem. You, likely, have an incorrect
setup, some damaged equipment, or you are assuming the SYS messages
are a diskette error, when they are just a user error. The first thing
I would check, is the drive termination.

It has been a long time, since I saw a new, defective, diskette, but
many of them need to be formatted (sometimes two, or three, times)
before they can be used (they seem to have "lumps" of crap on them,
that needs to be scraped off, or something like that).

Hope this helps...
******************************
From the PC of Doug Bissett
doug.bissett at attglobal.net
The " at " must be changed to "@"
******************************

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From: doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net                     23-Oct-99 09:30:01
  To: All                                               23-Oct-99 10:32:22
Subj: Re: How do you expand a partition?

From: doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net (Doug Bissett)

On Sat, 23 Oct 1999 01:11:55, [e-mail] wrote:

> I was just looking at a drive via FDISK and re-discovered a 30 mb freespace
on
> it.  A help seems to say you can expand an existing partition into
freespace,
> but I don't see where it says how.
>
> Did I misread it?  Can you expand a partition?  If so, how?
>
> Jim L
> Remove XX from address to Email
> Crooks and kooks will get guns regardless of laws.
>
>

You backup, then delete an adjacent partition (before, or after, the
empty one), create a new partition, which includes the free space,
then format it, and restore the data. If the adjacent partitions are
FAT formatted, they are limited to 2 gig, so you need to do a little
planning to figure out how to do it.

You could also use one of the partition tweakers (like Partition
Magic), but I am not sure I would bother with that, unless you already
own it. You could just create a new partition, as long as it doesn't
change any of the existing drive letters (ie. if it is at the end of
the drive). A 30mb partition makes a wonderful, bootable, maintenance
partition, which you can build with BOOTOS2, as long as it is within a
bootable portion of your disk (completely within less than Cylinder
1023).

Hope this helps...
******************************
From the PC of Doug Bissett
doug.bissett at attglobal.net
The " at " must be changed to "@"
******************************

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From: doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net                     23-Oct-99 09:30:05
  To: All                                               23-Oct-99 10:32:22
Subj: Re: Multiprocessor Support

From: doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net (Doug Bissett)

On Sat, 23 Oct 1999 02:12:31, "Richard Hanson"
<[e-mail]> wrote:

> Quick question: Does OS/2 Warp v.4 support dual processors? I was thinking
of installing it on a Tyan Tomcat 4.02 with dual P300's.
>
> --
> Best regards,
>
>        Rich Hanson
>

Short answer: NO.

Longer answer, only the server versions support SMP (Symetrical
Multiple Processors). MANY dollars (or any other currency).

Another answer, apparently, warp3 and 4 will run on a dual processor
machine, but they will only use one of the processors. On the other
hand, tests have shown very similar performance between a dual
processor WinNT system, and a single processor OS/2 system, other
things being mostly equal.

Take from that what you will...
******************************
From the PC of Doug Bissett
doug.bissett at attglobal.net
The " at " must be changed to "@"
******************************

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From: doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net                     23-Oct-99 09:30:02
  To: All                                               23-Oct-99 10:32:22
Subj: Re: I can no longer live with OS/2

From: doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net (Doug Bissett)

On Thu, 21 Oct 1999 17:57:07, [e-mail] wrote:

> When I bought into the OS/2 philosophy (systems should be robust and
> allow the user to get work done) that was my understanding
> and I must admit that the biggest disappointment with Warp 4 (actually
> the only disappointment) was that if I used NS then I would eventually
> have to reboot at some point due to a complete lockup of the UI.
>

The early versions of NS2.02, did have some bad lockup problems (from
what I saw, most of the time, OS/2 ws alive, and well, in the
background, but you couldn't get to it to kill Netscape). The latest
version (to be found on the IBM Software Choice - Catalog site ->
http://service.boulder.ibm.com/asd-bin/doc/en_us/catalog.htm ), seems
to have fixed MOST of those problems.

A second source of problems was the 1.02 version of JAVA. I have found
the last few versions to be rock solid. You can get the latest JAVA
(1.1.8) from the same site (along with the Software Installer,
required to install it), and you can get the latest fixes for that
from ftp://ftp.hursley.ibm.com/pub/java/fixes/os2/11/ (follow the
appropriate links).

A third source of problems, was the Linkup.EXE program, that was used
by the Modem version of the icons, to test if you were already
connected to the internet, and to give you the oportunity to connect
if you were not. This program started NS as a child process, and
would, very often, abend, invisibly, in the background, which left the
NS2.02 program hanging out in never-never land (read "hung"). I found,
that using the appropriate dialer (DOIP, Injoy etc.), to connect to
the internet, then starting Netscape, from the LAN version of the icon
(it just starts Netscape, without Linkup.EXE), worked MUCH better,
since Netscape was then a child of the desktop, and if the desktop
abended, you had other things to worry about (doesn't happen often).

At the same site, you will also find the newest Netscape Communicator
4.61. It does seem to have a few problems, but overall is much better
than NS2.02 (IMO). Most of the problems can be overcome with a few
excelent add on tools (Wget and AWget, to fix some downloading
problems, Smartcache to fix the cache problems, and, hopefully soon, a
fix pack to fix, at least, some of the known, identified problems).
See http://www.os2bbs.com/os2news/Communicator.html for more info
about known problems, workarounds, and other tips.

As for a kill utility, I don't use anything but the WarpCenter Kill
function. From the ConfigMaint/2 data file:
==========================================
SET SCKILLFEATUREENABLED=1

 ON, does the same as 1

 Allows to kill misbehaving programs with a Ctrl/left click on the
 WarpCenter task list (second button from the left)
=========================================
This line goes into your CONFIG.SYS to enable the kill feature. It
kills almost everything I have tried it on (I don't ever remember
trying it on Nescape 4.61). ConfigMaint/2 is available from HOBBES.
Look for CFGMT100.ZIP, and its latest update CFGUPD3.ZIP (may be 4 by
now). The data file is readable in a text editor (the OS/2 System
Editor), and the program helps you understand, and tweak your
CONFIG.SYS.

I also, strongly, recommend FixPack 12.

Hope this helps...
******************************
From the PC of Doug Bissett
doug.bissett at attglobal.net
The " at " must be changed to "@"
******************************

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From: [e-mail]                             23-Oct-99 11:43:20
  To: All                                               23-Oct-99 10:32:22
Subj: Re: Now that I have Netscape 4.61

From: [e-mail] (Dave Parsons)

On Fri, 22 Oct 1999 20:54:49, Dale Erwin <[e-mail]> wrote:

>
> "David T. Johnson" wrote:
>
> > Dale Erwin wrote:
> > >
> > > Is it possible to import my address book and bookmarks from ver 2.02?
> > > --
> >
> > I think that the 4.x install does this automatically.  But, if it
> > doesn't, just copy address.htm and bookmark.htm from your netscape v2.02
> > directory to the new directory for 4.x which will be something like
> > X:\netscape\users\irwin.
>
> All it asked me was did I want to convert my Web Explorer bookmarks.  Anyway
> I was able to copy
> the bookmarks but not the address book.  I copied it into the directory, but
> it still doesn't come up.
> So I added a couple of addresses to the address book from inside Netscape
> and went to look for the
> file and can find it nowhere.
> --
> Dale Erwin

From the Navigator main window select:-
  Communicator->Address Book
From the address book window select:-
  File->Import
and use the file selector to import your NS 2.02 address.htm directly.

NC 4.61 does not use the html format but it can import from an HTML file.
Your new address book is called pab.na2.

--
Dave

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From: [e-mail]                        23-Oct-99 12:12:07
  To: All                                               23-Oct-99 10:32:22
Subj: Changing CDROM

From: [e-mail]

Dear All,

This might be something I could find in a faq.  But I dodn't know where
the faq are!

I installed V4, Fixpack11 onto a machine with a soundblaster+panasonic
2X drive.  Now I want to replace the CDROM with a faster one.  I have a
Hitachi 8130, which works fine with NT (same machine).  Can't get OS2 to
find the new CD and forget about the old.  I have tried various things,
like setting it all up using the old CDROM, copying the OS2diskimage to
Harddrive, messing around with config.sys...

Any ideas about the right way - or anyone point me to the faq that deals
with it.

TIA

Patrick

please reply to the newsgroup as I don't use this email address much.

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From: [e-mail]                              23-Oct-99 11:42:12
  To: All                                               23-Oct-99 10:32:23
Subj: Re: Floppy problems

From: [e-mail] (tom c.)

Don't know what the problem is but don't throw them out. Save them up
and refomat them with DOS and they can be reused.

One thing that happened in an old system was that the arm for the
heads  on the disk drive get dusty and couldn't move all the way. A
cleaning with a Q-tip did the job then. Don't know about this new
system though.


In message <380e959c$1$yvsrqngn$[e-mail]> -
[e-mail] writes:
}
}It seems that for as long as I can remember I have had trouble using 3.5"
}floppies.  I'm trying to make up some utility disks.  I have gone through a
}dozen Maxell 2HD floppies, and either when I try to format them I get "Can't
}format track 0", or can't find sector error.
}
}What in the world is this "Can't format track 0" all about?  I keep throwing
}floppies away by the handful.  I have tried on two different machines and
half a
}dozen different floppy drives.  I've tried command line formatting in Warp 3
and
}the formatting found in the drives object in Warp 4.  I keep getting all this
}flack from floppies.
}
}Anybody with any ideas what's going on here?????????????????????  Is Maxell
just
}a trashy disk?
}
}Jim L
}Remove XX from address to Email
}Crooks and kooks will get guns regardless of laws.
}
}




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From: [e-mail]                                    23-Oct-99 12:22:05
  To: All                                               23-Oct-99 14:34:06
Subj: Re: How to Transfer File with serial port?

From: [e-mail] (Bob Eager)

On Tue, 19 Oct 1999 17:39:32, [e-mail] (Jeffrey
Altman) wrote:

> For the lastest information about Kermit on OS/2 please see
>
>   http://www.kermit-project.org/os2.html
>
> not hobbes.

Yes, but don't the newer (non-Hobbes) versions cost money?

--
Bob Eager
rde at tavi.co.uk
PC Server 325; PS/2s 8595*3, 9595*3 (2*P60 + P90), 8535, 8570, 9556*2,
8580*6,
8557*2, 8550, 9577, 8530, P70, PC/AT..

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From: [e-mail]                                    23-Oct-99 12:22:07
  To: All                                               23-Oct-99 14:34:06
Subj: Re: How to Transfer File with serial port?

From: [e-mail] (Bob Eager)

On Mon, 18 Oct 1999 19:30:33, [e-mail] wrote:

> Hi...
> I want to transfer a file from rs232 serial port from one computer to
> another

An easy and cheap way....DOS 6 and its included INTERLINK program.


--
Bob Eager
rde at tavi.co.uk
PC Server 325; PS/2s 8595*3, 9595*3 (2*P60 + P90), 8535, 8570, 9556*2,
8580*6,
8557*2, 8550, 9577, 8530, P70, PC/AT..

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From: [e-mail]                               23-Oct-99 13:11:08
  To: All                                               23-Oct-99 14:34:06
Subj: Re: Changing CDROM

From: [e-mail] (Mark Klebanoff)

On Sat, 23 Oct 1999 11:12:14, [e-mail] wrote:

> Dear All,
>
> This might be something I could find in a faq.  But I dodn't know where
> the faq are!
>
> I installed V4, Fixpack11 onto a machine with a soundblaster+panasonic
> 2X drive.  Now I want to replace the CDROM with a faster one.  I have a
> Hitachi 8130, which works fine with NT (same machine).  Can't get OS2 to
> find the new CD and forget about the old.  I have tried various things,
> like setting it all up using the old CDROM, copying the OS2diskimage to
> Harddrive, messing around with config.sys...
>
Do a selective uninstall of the old CD, and when you install the new,
odds are it's a generic IDE/ATAPI.  Try that.  It'll need to get
pugged into an IDE port, BTW

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From: [e-mail]                          21-Oct-99 12:03:26
  To: All                                               23-Oct-99 14:34:06
Subj: Re: What FP level?

From: "Mark" <[e-mail]>

Type SYSLEVEL at the prompt and review the output to find out your fixpak
levels.

Mark.
[e-mail]

[e-mail] wrote in message ...
>I've not only forgotten what FP level of Warp 3 I'm at, but also how
>to find out. Would someone please enlighten me?
>
>Thank you,
>Nancy


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From: [e-mail]                             23-Oct-99 14:01:26
  To: All                                               23-Oct-99 14:34:06
Subj: Re: I can no longer live with OS/2

From: [e-mail] (-don-)

On Fri, 22 Oct 1999 09:48:52, "Kim Cheung"
<[e-mail]> wrote:

> No.  I believe 4.61 has a very different design when compared to 4.04.   I
> was told that they did it one way and found that it really didn't work and
> this time they did it "differently".   I don't know the detail, however, but
> the effect shows.   4.61 (beta) is quite stable - whereas 4.04 really
wasn't.
>

I have not yet tried 4.61, but have been running 2.02 (and one instance of
4.04) quite nicely with all java and javascript functions disabled.
javascript is a russian-roulette game, and enabling java is sure-death.

-don-
donh at audiosys dot com

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From: [e-mail]                             23-Oct-99 14:36:22
  To: All                                               23-Oct-99 14:34:07
Subj: Re: I can no longer live with OS/2

From: [e-mail] (Ron Gibson)

On Thu, 21 Oct 1999 20:12:29, [e-mail] wrote:

> > Steven, I've never had a session of any kind that Watchcat couldn't
> > take care of.

> I have tried WatchCat and the KILL9 dll extension and neither of
> those could kill Netscape when it had hung.  Is it possible that
> there is something in my setup that would prevent me from killing
> apps as effectively as you can?

I've got a problem with 4.04 that can't be resolved that causes hangs
that sometimes require a hard reboot and I have watchcat.

Look at you netscape cache file and see how big it is.  It shouldn't be
any bigger than it's set to.  Mine is set to 4096K (4 meg).  However,
it has grown as large as 40Meg!  I now put it on a ram drive because I
get tired of deleting the files every other day.

                      email: [e-mail]

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From: [e-mail]                        23-Oct-99 15:37:11
  To: All                                               23-Oct-99 14:34:07
Subj: Re: Changing CDROM

From: [e-mail]

Thanks. I assume you mean I need to uninstall all the multimedia support
as there is no option to uninstall particular devices.

Patrick

Mark Klebanoff wrote:
>
> On Sat, 23 Oct 1999 11:12:14, [e-mail] wrote:
>
> > Dear All,
> >
> > This might be something I could find in a faq.  But I dodn't know where
> > the faq are!
> >
> > I installed V4, Fixpack11 onto a machine with a soundblaster+panasonic
> > 2X drive.  Now I want to replace the CDROM with a faster one.  I have a
> > Hitachi 8130, which works fine with NT (same machine).  Can't get OS2 to
> > find the new CD and forget about the old.  I have tried various things,
> > like setting it all up using the old CDROM, copying the OS2diskimage to
> > Harddrive, messing around with config.sys...
> >
> Do a selective uninstall of the old CD, and when you install the new,
> odds are it's a generic IDE/ATAPI.  Try that.  It'll need to get
> pugged into an IDE port, BTW

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From: [e-mail]                        23-Oct-99 15:45:26
  To: All                                               23-Oct-99 14:34:07
Subj: Re: Modems (again?)

From: [e-mail]

I'll add that I have an internal ZOOM FAXMODEM 56K that works great with
OS2v4 and NT4.  It was about 70 bucks.  There is a ZOOM winfaxmodem 56k
that is cheaper and I guessed would not work.

Cheers

Patrick

> I have an external Zoom V90 faxmodem and was pleasantly surprized to
> find it works much more easily with Injoy 2.x under Warp 4 than it
> does under RH Linux 6.1 or the horrific WinNT 4.0.  In any case the
> Zoom works great and it saves a slot since it's a serial model.  It
> was less than $100 in the USA and costs less than 30,000 drachmas
> locally, in case anyone was wondering (I doubt anyone was...).  I
> recommend it.
> Regards,
> Xtralarge OS/2 fan
>
> Opinions expressed are mine only.  Ignore them and
> killfile me.  Leave the University and/or my ISP alone,
> I don't speak for them, they have nothing to do with it,
> and they probably have more lawyers than you anyway.

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From: [e-mail]                          23-Oct-99 14:54:18
  To: All                                               23-Oct-99 14:34:07
Subj: Re: Latest version of os2??!!

From: Zeus Paleologos <[e-mail]>

In article <qpkdVVNoMoTk-pn2-5olj8UpBZOd0@localhost> on Fri, 22 Oct 1999
15:14:58 GMT,
 Lorne Sunley <[e-mail]> wrote:
> On Fri, 22 Oct 1999 11:46:29, "Grunt" <[e-mail]> wrote:

>> I am interested in finding out which is the latest version of OS2
>> Warp!!!!?????
>>
> The latest version of the OS/2 Warp client is Warp 4.

> The latest fixpack for that version is Fixpack 12

> The latest version of Warp Server is Warp Server
> for e-Business (AKA Warp 4.5)

> Lorne Sunley

Just curious, but what is the difference between Client and Server
versions?

I run servers on the Internet with plain old Warp 3 Blue with IAK.
And though I own Warp 4 (Client?) upgrade, I don't use it--  yet.

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From: [e-mail]                               23-Oct-99 14:57:22
  To: All                                               23-Oct-99 14:34:07
Subj: Re: cincyteamos2?

From: [e-mail] (Esther Schindler)

On Fri, 22 Oct 1999 00:20:31, Craig Benbow <[e-mail]>
wrote:

| What happened to TeamOS2 at cincy?
| Yes I have not been keeping track.  Can anyone explain what happened to
| them so we can have some closure on this once prominent OS/2 group.

As happens to a lot of user groups... the guy who gave it vision got
distracted. (Actually, I think he got married.) As a result, the
group, and the site, faded.

(I've been involved with user groups since 1986. This happens to user
groups all the time, and shouldn't be construed as an OS/2 issue. It
is, however, a sad thing, as the Cincy group used to do a *great* Web
site.)

--Esther
  program chair
  Phoenix OS/2 Society
  http://www.possi.org


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From: [e-mail]                                23-Oct-99 10:20:21
  To: All                                               23-Oct-99 14:34:07
Subj: Re: Now that I have Netscape 4.61

From: Dale Erwin <[e-mail]>

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Dave Parsons wrote:

> From the Navigator main window select:-
>   Communicator->Address Book
> From the address book window select:-
>   File->Import
> and use the file selector to import your NS 2.02 address.htm directly.
>
> NC 4.61 does not use the html format but it can import from an HTML file.
> Your new address book is called pab.na2.
>
> --
> Dave

Thanks for the info, Dave.  However, I can't seem to get it to work.  After
doing
what you say,
the 2.02 addresses are still not available.
--
Dale Erwin
Dallas, Texas
<A HREF="http://www.geocities.com/dale_erwin/index.html">


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From: [e-mail]                                23-Oct-99 10:30:24
  To: All                                               23-Oct-99 14:34:07
Subj: Re: cincyteamos2?

From: Dale Erwin <[e-mail]>

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Esther Schindler wrote:

> On Fri, 22 Oct 1999 00:20:31, Craig Benbow <[e-mail]>
> wrote:
>
> | What happened to TeamOS2 at cincy?
> | Yes I have not been keeping track.  Can anyone explain what happened to
> | them so we can have some closure on this once prominent OS/2 group.
>
> As happens to a lot of user groups... the guy who gave it vision got
> distracted. (Actually, I think he got married.) As a result, the
> group, and the site, faded.
>
> (I've been involved with user groups since 1986. This happens to user
> groups all the time, and shouldn't be construed as an OS/2 issue. It
> is, however, a sad thing, as the Cincy group used to do a *great* Web
> site.)
>
> --Esther
>   program chair
>   Phoenix OS/2 Society
>   http://www.possi.org

The DFW user group also appears to have faded out of existence.  It went
steadily downhill after
Jim Stuyck retired.  When I was in Los Angeles, the LA group was a waste of
time.  The SCOUG
is, of course, VERY fine, but it was a 90-mile drive for me.

So here I am feeling sequestered from the OS/2 community except for these
ngs.
--
Dale Erwin
Dallas, Texas
<A HREF="http://www.geocities.com/dale_erwin/index.html">


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From: [e-mail]                      23-Oct-99 17:40:29
  To: All                                               23-Oct-99 14:34:07
Subj: Re: Multiprocessor Support

From: Martin Nisshagen <[e-mail]>

doug.bissett at attglobal.net [Global Network Services - Remote Access Mail &
News Services] -> comp.os.os2.misc:

» Short answer: NO.
»
» Longer answer, only the server versions support SMP (Symetrical
» Multiple Processors). MANY dollars (or any other currency).

Even longer (and probably almost nitpick):

OS/2 v 2.11 SMP (client) supports SMP.

» Another answer, apparently, warp3 and 4 will run on a dual processor
» machine, but they will only use one of the processors. On the other
» hand, tests have shown very similar performance between a dual
» processor WinNT system, and a single processor OS/2 system, other
» things being mostly equal.

Well, if you mainly use a computer for only I/O intensive tasks you won't
notice much improvement with several processors, but if you run a CPU
intensive process who is well multi threaded, or several different processes
at the same you will with 2 processors almost see a linear double improvement
in performance (I have run a two processor machine for over half a year now).

http://kikumaru.w-w.ne.jp/pc/celeron/dcbench.html

That said most normal type of applications (like Office apps, games, etc) who
isn't very well multi threaded you won't see much improvement (at least not
near the double for most practical tasks), and even some graphic applications
isn't always practically perfect independent threaded in it's tasks.

But this is of course if you only run one application (using the CPU)
concurrently (if you run several process you will see a great use of two
processors even if they in them self isn't very well threaded, or at al).

Best regards,

m a r t i n | n

--
Martin Nisshagen                 PGP 6.5: 0x45D423AC      K R A F T W E R K
:)
CS/CE, Chalmers, Sweden          ICQ UIN: 689662          2 x 300A @ 450 MHz
d4nisse-at-dtek-chalmers-se      home2.pp.sbbs.se/mn
home2.pp.sbbs.se/mn/kw

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From: [e-mail]                          23-Oct-99 09:04:11
  To: All                                               23-Oct-99 14:34:07
Subj: Re: java icq & ibm lava 1.1.8

From: "Rodney D. Myers" <[e-mail]>

On Sat, 23 Oct 1999 02:49:50 GMT, David T. Anderson wrote:

I just found ICQ/2, and got the updated emx libraries. Works great

:>On Fri, 22 Oct 1999 23:47:26, [e-mail] (Jan Eri)
:>wrote:
:>
:>> On Fri, 22 Oct 1999 20:36:09, "Rodney D. Myers" <[e-mail]>

:>> wrote:
:>> > is anyone experiencing trouble getting icq (java) to run with ibm java
1.1.8?
:>> > it was working before I upgraded to 1.1.8. now I don't get anything.
:>>
:>> Seems my experience is opposite from the others: I had lockups and trouble

:>> before 1.1.8, but now everything is perfect.
:>
:>It worked okay for me, both before and after 1.1.8....aside from a
:>memory leak that went away when I upped my RAM to 128M.
:>
:>Have you tried the new native ICQ/2 by Momotech?  It's not quite as
:>fully featured [ha!] as ICQJava, but it does the basics very well....
:>
:>David T. Anderson
:>Calgary, Alberta
:>http://www.agt.net/public/dtander/
:>
:>Using ProNews/2 for OS/2 Warp
:>
:>**NOSPAM**  To email me, remove the 's' from my address...



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From: [e-mail]                                23-Oct-99 13:24:08
  To: All                                               23-Oct-99 16:48:03
Subj: Re: How do you expand a partition?

From: [e-mail]

Dale Erwin <[e-mail]> said:

>If you expand the partition with FDISK you will lose all data.  As I recall,
>with FDISK, you must delete the partition and redefine it.

Hmm, you must mean delete both partitions and redefine the space as one.
That's
what I wa afraid of.

I'm a little leery of PM.  The last time I used it, I had intermittent chkdsk
errors in that area until I reformatted the partition and reinstalled OS/2.

Jim L
Remove XX from address to Email
Crooks and kooks will get guns regardless of laws.


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From: [e-mail]                                23-Oct-99 13:30:05
  To: All                                               23-Oct-99 16:48:03
Subj: Re: How do you expand a partition?

From: [e-mail]

doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net (Doug Bissett) said:

>You could also use one of the partition tweakers (like Partition
>Magic), but I am not sure I would bother with that, unless you already own
it.
>You could just create a new partition, as long as it doesn't  change any of
the
>existing drive letters

I'll probably just ignore it.  The space is on my first physical drive so it
would change my drive letters.  Since it is an old half gig, I'll probably put
it in my dad's old computer later.

Jim L
Remove XX from address to Email
Crooks and kooks will get guns regardless of laws.


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From: [e-mail]                                23-Oct-99 13:28:12
  To: All                                               23-Oct-99 16:48:03
Subj: Re: How do you expand a partition?

From: [e-mail]

[e-mail] (Richard Steiner) said:

>I use Partition Magic for that sort of size adjustment

What version do you have?

Jim L
Remove XX from address to Email
Crooks and kooks will get guns regardless of laws.


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From: [e-mail]                            23-Oct-99 12:05:24
  To: All                                               23-Oct-99 16:48:03
Subj: Re: How do you expand a partition?

From: Chuck McKinnis <[e-mail]>

I have never had a problem with Partition Magic 3.0 (latest fix level)
when changing and moving partitions.  However, the only safe way to run
it is from a booted DOS diskette.

[e-mail] wrote:
>
> Dale Erwin <[e-mail]> said:
>
> >If you expand the partition with FDISK you will lose all data.  As I
recall,
> >with FDISK, you must delete the partition and redefine it.
>
> Hmm, you must mean delete both partitions and redefine the space as one.
That's
> what I wa afraid of.
>
> I'm a little leery of PM.  The last time I used it, I had intermittent
chkdsk
> errors in that area until I reformatted the partition and reinstalled OS/2.
>
> Jim L
> Remove XX from address to Email
> Crooks and kooks will get guns regardless of laws.

--
Chuck McKinnis
Senior Systems Engineer
Denver Solutions Group, Inc.
IBM Business Partner
IBM Senior Systems Engineer (retired)

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From: [e-mail]                               23-Oct-99 20:18:15
  To: All                                               23-Oct-99 19:54:20
Subj: Re: Changing CDROM

From: [e-mail] (Mark Klebanoff)

On Sat, 23 Oct 1999 14:37:23, [e-mail] wrote:

> Thanks. I assume you mean I need to uninstall all the multimedia support
> as there is no option to uninstall particular devices.
>
> Patrick
>
Woah.  I didn't relaize that.  The important thing is probably to
change 1 or 2 lines in config.sys  I don't think I'd go that far.  I'd
need to think about what lines it might be, but maybe someone here
knows

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From: [e-mail]                           23-Oct-99 20:36:21
  To: All                                               23-Oct-99 19:54:20
Subj: Re: Changing CDROM

From: [e-mail] (Lorne Sunley)

On Sat, 23 Oct 1999 20:18:30, [e-mail] (Mark Klebanoff)
wrote:

> On Sat, 23 Oct 1999 14:37:23, [e-mail] wrote:
>
> > Thanks. I assume you mean I need to uninstall all the multimedia support
> > as there is no option to uninstall particular devices.
> >
> > Patrick
> >
> Woah.  I didn't relaize that.  The important thing is probably to
> change 1 or 2 lines in config.sys  I don't think I'd go that far.  I'd
> need to think about what lines it might be, but maybe someone here
> knows

Multimedia support has nothing to do with the ability
of OS/2 to detect and use the CD-ROM drives. The
CD player applications use the devices detected
by the OS.

Selective install has a screen that shows the various
device options available. One of those is the
CD-ROM device(s) supported.

In order to support any of the IDE CD-ROM devices
you need two lines in the config.sys file.

BASEDEV=IBM1S506.ADD
BASEDEV=IBMIDECD.FLT

This assumes the IDE CD-ROM device is connected
to one of the IDE connectors provided on most
motherboards. If the CD-ROM is the only device
on the IDE bus it is connected to make sure it is
set to MASTER. If it is set as a SLAVE and it is
the only device, the drivers will not use it.

Lorne Sunley


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From: [e-mail]               23-Oct-99 13:39:18
  To: All                                               23-Oct-99 19:54:20
Subj: Re: Multiprocessor Support

From: "Kim Cheung" <[e-mail]>

On 23 Oct 1999 09:30:10 GMT, Doug Bissett wrote:

>> Quick question: Does OS/2 Warp v.4 support dual processors? I was thinking
of installing it on a Tyan Tomcat 4.02 with dual P300's.

Actually, there is no technical difficulty having the SMP kernel running in
Warp 4.   Unfortunately nobody was able to convince Austin Marketing that
having a SMP kernel isn't going to affect his server sales (like they were
actually marketing the server).   As a result, it was never allowed out the
door.

When you have it, it's sooooooooo nice.


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From: [e-mail]                            23-Oct-99 20:36:06
  To: All                                               23-Oct-99 19:54:20
Subj: Re: Modems (again?)

From: [e-mail] (Jeffery Swagger)

In <3810963c$1$obot$[e-mail]>, Bob Germer
<[e-mail]> writes:
>On <[e-mail]>, on 10/22/99
>at 02:19 PM,
>   [e-mail] (Annie K.) said:
>
>> :if it says on the box that it works with DOS, Win 95, 98, NT
>> :and Macintosh does that mean it's a real modem and will
>> :also work with OS/2?
>
>>  Yes.
>
>Bad answer. The answer should be maybe. Not all external modems are true
>modems. Some external modems are USB, not serial port.

True.  However, even when you have a true modem that works with OS/2,
you'll find that the flash upgrade program is Winblows only.

----
Jeff

   The probability of someone watching you is directly
   proportional to the stupidity of your actions....

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From: [e-mail]                             23-Oct-99 20:52:09
  To: All                                               23-Oct-99 19:54:20
Subj: Re: cincyteamos2?

From: [e-mail] (Dominique Pivard)

On Sat, 23 Oct 1999 14:57:45, [e-mail] (Esther Schindler)
wrote:
>
> (I've been involved with user groups since 1986. This happens to user
> groups all the time, and shouldn't be construed as an OS/2 issue. It
> is, however, a sad thing, as the Cincy group used to do a *great* Web
> site.)

Another great site heavily inspired from the old Cincy Team OS/2 site
is:

http://www.warpupdates.de/

It's a one-man show but is constantly updated and full of useful
information.

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From: [e-mail]                             23-Oct-99 20:57:14
  To: All                                               23-Oct-99 19:54:20
Subj: Re: MSN as internet provider in Warp

From: [e-mail] (Dominique Pivard)

On Sat, 23 Oct 1999 05:54:51, "TCandell" <[e-mail]>
wrote:

> Any help in setting up MSN in warp would be appreciated.  Tech support at
> MSN gave me some DNS addresses but I still can"t connect.

Just a guess: could it be that MSN is using MS-CHAP (as the name
indicates, Mickey$oft's own non-standard extension to CHAP) for
authentication? If you have been using the standard dialer included in
Warp (Dial Other Internet Provider, which doesn't know about MS-CHAP),
you may want to try InJoy (http://www.fx.dk/injoy/), which supports
MS-CHAP.

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From: [e-mail]                          23-Oct-99 14:38:17
  To: All                                               23-Oct-99 19:54:20
Subj: Re: UPDATE:  Re: I can no longer live with OS/2

From: Jonathan Seder <[e-mail]>

>     Netscape is unable to locate the server home.netscape.com.

You might do a couple of experiments to check your TCP/IP installation -
from what I've read, there could be nothing at all wrong with Netscape.

You said that Netscape reported that it can't find home.netscape.com.
In a command prompt window, can you ping home.netscape.com?  If you get
    ping: unknown host home.netscape.com
then the problem is with your DNS setup and has nothing at all to do
with Netscape.

If you're feeling a little more adventurous, you could also go to a
command prompt window and type
    nslookup home.netscape.com
You should see somthing like this:
    [C:\mydir]nslookup home.netscape.com
    Server:  dns.my-isp.net
    Address:  123.123.123.123

    Non-authoritative answer:
    Name:    www-ld1.netscape.com
    Address:  207.200.75.200
    Aliases:  home.netscape.com
Be careful - you should verify that you are running TCP/IP WR08620
first.  nslookup in at least one old rev of TCP/IP trapped.

If you're using the IBM Internet dialer, make sure that the "Domain
Nameserver" entry on the "Connect" page has the correct entry.  This
information is provided by your ISP.  It could be that you are using a
remote nameserver, not in your ISP's network, which isn't reliable.

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From: [e-mail]                               23-Oct-99 21:33:12
  To: All                                               23-Oct-99 19:54:20
Subj: Warp 4, Fixpak 12 / Service Halts

From: [e-mail]

I've installed Warp 4 onto a brand new pc.  I use Boot Manager with
Win98 on the other partition.  The Warp package should include the label
"Some Assembly Required".

It seems to get much use out of OS/2, you have to install Fixpaks. I
started with Fixpak 12, using the "Fix" method to install FP12 from the
hard drive.  Service initiates ok, and gets as far as examining my
system before halting with the error message:
"An error occurred while searching for files to update.  The reason may
be old or corrupt CSF logfiles, CSF_SEL.000, or file system corruption.
 See Readme file for more info."

There are no CSF logfiles on the system, I get the same error whether I
have a dummy empty CSF_SEL.000 file on it or not, and any logfiles just
repeat the message above.  I've tried other methods of applying the
Fixpak, all end with the same message.  I haven't tried an on-line
method since I've only recently managed to get the modem working with
Warp.

This error is mentioned in one of the text files that came with Warp,
but the suggested remedy made some ineffective reference to Syslevel.

Syslevel.exe reports the same version number as in Syslevel.os2:
XR04000.  Syslevel.os2 contains many directory and file names.  Not all
of those are present on my machine since I thought I'd wait until after
applying the Fixpak before attempting to install the sound system and
MultiMedia features.

Can anyone suggest where to go from here, or more information I could
provide to assist a solution?

thanks


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From: [e-mail]                             23-Oct-99 22:11:24
  To: All                                               23-Oct-99 21:23:15
Subj: Re: Now that I have Netscape 4.61

From: [e-mail] (Ron Gibson)

On Fri, 22 Oct 1999 20:54:49, Dale Erwin <[e-mail]> wrote:

This is real simple as I do it between 4 platforms, OS/2, W31, W98 and
Linux.  Just save bookmark.htm somewhere.  Create a user profile.
Rename the default bookmark.htm to bookmark.old.  Copy your saved
bookmark file into the user directory. That's all there is to it.


> > > Is it possible to import my address book and bookmarks from ver 2.02?
> > > --
> >
> > I think that the 4.x install does this automatically.  But, if it
> > doesn't, just copy address.htm and bookmark.htm from your netscape v2.02
> > directory to the new directory for 4.x which will be something like
> > X:\netscape\users\irwin.
>
> All it asked me was did I want to convert my Web Explorer bookmarks.  Anyway
> I was able to copy
> the bookmarks but not the address book.  I copied it into the directory, but
> it still doesn't come up.
> So I added a couple of addresses to the address book from inside Netscape
> and went to look for the
> file and can find it nowhere.
> --
> Dale Erwin
> Dallas, Texas
> <A HREF="http://www.geocities.com/dale_erwin/index.html">
>
>
> Content-Description: Card for Dale Erwin
> -------Begin Encoded File-------
> Encoded filename: derwin.vcf
> Decoded path: file:///J:\PRONEWS\DECODED\derwin~1.vcf
> Encoding type: 7-Bit
> File size: 0KB
> --------End Encoded File--------
>


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From: [e-mail]                                 23-Oct-99 22:19:29
  To: All                                               23-Oct-99 21:23:15
Subj: Re: Warp 4, Fixpak 12 / Service Halts

From: [e-mail]

In <7ut9j5$7l7$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] writes:

>I've installed Warp 4 onto a brand new pc.  I use Boot Manager with
>Win98 on the other partition.  The Warp package should include the label
>"Some Assembly Required".
>

:-)

>It seems to get much use out of OS/2, you have to install Fixpaks.

I'd disgree . . if this is your first venture into OS/2 land, I'd put off the
fixpacks
for a bit. OS/2 no-fixed runs fine,  if you're like me you'll learn enough
in the beginning to want to reinstall with fewer bad choices later anyway.

>Syslevel.exe reports the same version number as in Syslevel.os2:
>XR04000.  Syslevel.os2 contains many directory and file names.  Not all
>of those are present on my machine since I thought I'd wait until after
>applying the Fixpak before attempting to install the sound system and
>MultiMedia features.

bad idea. the part that needs fixing most is multimedia ! you want the
fixpack to update MMOS2 *for sure*, so you should get the complete
system up and running first (IMHO) then run the Fpack.  For what it's
worth, I've had the best success with a 'fastkick141.zip' from Hobbes,
DIUNPACK the disk files to a temp directory, use the .cmd program to
do the work of updating. I've also had some *evil* results with that
"such-and-such file on your hard disk is newer" dialog. These days, I
don't care *what* it asks, it all gets updated and I can deal with
"newer files" later if necessary. Had the system refuse to boot again
too many times because the "newer file on the hard drive" wasn't.
Mr Spalten has explained how this works, 'newness' is not the entire
criterion, but the message is misleading. Ignore it !

>
>Can anyone suggest where to go from here, or more information I could
>provide to assist a solution?

advice is cheap, but IMO you should get everything you want to use
installed at base level, use it for a bit like that, then go for the fixpacks.

the readme's have a lot of information, but you have to read them
pretty carefully to get max understanding. They've been improved
recently, but there's stll a lot to pick up in one sitting, especially if
this is a new system to you. And again, I like the fastkick method,
but there's several to choose from, look over at hobbes and find
one you like.

>
>thanks
>

--
Albert, the Mad Shirt Grinder

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From: [e-mail]                               23-Oct-99 22:22:14
  To: All                                               23-Oct-99 21:23:15
Subj: Instructions: How To Build An OS/2 Computer

From: [e-mail]

Is there a an OS/2 web site that offers instructions or
guidelines for building my own OS/2-compatible computer?

I'd really like to go to a site that offered me step-by-step
instructions for building my own computer specifically for OS/2.
You know, offer me as many web addresses for as possible for
ordering the specific hardware needed so I could get the best
buys possible.  Once all the parts are received I could ten
relog on to the site and walk through a step-by-step process
of putting the hardware together and then installing my base
Warp 4 system.  Follow that by installing all the latest updates.

If such a site is available this would be a great help to those
of us "do it yourselfers" or to other bright OS/2 entrepreneurs
who we could contract with to put such a system together.

If such a site existed then anyone could sit down and create
they own system.  Once built they could advertise it for sale
and create a new system, constantly updating their knowledge
and the OS/2 systems they offer.  I'd jumpt at the chance to
buy a system from some knowledgeable OS/2 entrepreneur who
said: "Pay me three so and so bucks then buy the necessary
hardware (parts) and I'll put together the best OS/2 system
I can based upon the parts you buy."

That would be great!  Is there such a site and if not, why
not?

Here's hopin'

Jeff


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From: [e-mail]                    23-Oct-99 16:35:18
  To: All                                               23-Oct-99 21:23:15
Subj: Re: Warp 4, Fixpak 12 / Service Halts

From: "Graham C. Norris" <[e-mail]>

Apart from updating IDE drivers on the install floppies before you
start, you need to install all the bits you want *before* you service
OS/2, otherwise you'll just have to apply the service again after you've
installed them in order to get those bits serviced too.

SYSLEVEL.OS2 should not contain a list of files and directories, sounds
like you've overwritten it (which would also explain why you can't
service the system). You can copy it off the CD, install the multimedia
stuff, then apply the service.

Graham.

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From: [e-mail]                          24-Oct-99 07:58:08
  To: All                                               23-Oct-99 21:23:15
Subj: Re: Modems (again?)

From: "Wayne Bickell" <[e-mail]>

On Sat, 23 Oct 1999 03:31:31 -0400 (EDT), OS/2 Fan wrote:

:>I have an external Zoom V90 faxmodem and was pleasantly surprized to
:>find it works much more easily with Injoy 2.x under Warp 4 than it
:>does under RH Linux 6.1 or the horrific WinNT 4.0.  In any case the
:>Zoom works great and it saves a slot since it's a serial model.  It
:>was less than $100 in the USA and costs less than 30,000 drachmas
:>locally, in case anyone was wondering (I doubt anyone was...).  I
:>recommend it.
:>Regards,
:>Xtralarge OS/2 fan

I was looking at a USR yesterday. Big red lable with Win98 on it
and was twice the price of an Omron or I.O.Data. These are in the
6,980 - 7,980 yen range, if anyone is interested in comparing
currencies :-)

Cheers

Wayne



******************************************************
Wayne Bickell
Tokyo, Japan
[e-mail]
******************************************************
           Posted with PMINews 2 for OS/2
  Running on OS/2 Warp 4 (UK)  + FixPak 9
******************************************************



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From: [e-mail]                    23-Oct-99 16:41:14
  To: All                                               23-Oct-99 21:23:15
Subj: Re: Multiprocessor Support

From: "Graham C. Norris" <[e-mail]>

"David T. Johnson" wrote:
> A little off-topic but what is the advantage of dual P300's over a
> single PIII 600 Mhz or Athlon 700 Mhz?

a) The motherboard is probably more expensive
b) They require a more expensive version of OS/2 ...
c) ... which doesn't support Win-OS2 fully
d) For most purposes, they will be slower
e) If you ever use Win9x or DOS, it will be slower as it only uses one
CPU.

Oh, it was *advantages* you were looking for ... er, the original Win95
will boot, whereas it won't with a 350 or faster CPU.

Graham.

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From: [e-mail]                               23-Oct-99 08:41:02
  To: All                                               24-Oct-99 05:23:24
Subj: Re: UPDATE:  Re: I can no longer live with OS/2

From: [e-mail](Fritz Oppliger)

In <7umijp$ofl$[e-mail]>, on 10/21/99
   at 08:24 AM, [e-mail] (Ian Johnston) said:

>Wayne Bickell ([e-mail]) wrote:

>: Most definitely. I sometimes have to use 2.02 because 4.61, like its
>: predecessor, sometimes barfs on file downloads. The progress
>: box just disappears.

>Me too!

>Ian

Me too!
So then I use 2.02 plus autoget /awget

[e-mail](Fritz Oppliger) KE6VDA

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From: [e-mail]                                23-Oct-99 21:45:04
  To: All                                               24-Oct-99 05:23:24
Subj: Re: Floppy problems

From: [e-mail]

James Moe <[e-mail]> said:

> Have you tried using a cleaning disk on the drive(s)? I seem to
>recall having this sort of problem and cleaning fixed it. If the drive sits
>idle for looooong time, crud builds up on the heads and effect their
>sensitivity.

Well, I think you may have hit on the answer.  I haven't cleaned a floppy
drive
in years.  Thanks for the reminder.

Jim L
Remove XX from address to Email
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From: [e-mail]                      24-Oct-99 04:46:18
  To: All                                               24-Oct-99 05:23:24
Subj: Re: Multiprocessor Support

From: Martin Nisshagen <[e-mail]>

David T. Johnson [Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com] ->
comp.os.os2.misc:

» A little off-topic but what is the advantage of dual P300's over a
» single PIII 600 Mhz or Athlon 700 Mhz?

The advantage is compared to a dual PIII or Athlon. That said the previous
poster maybe already has a dual board and just want to do an easy upgrade of
processing power by inserting the same type of CPU in to the second CPU slot.

This is very common on graphics workstations as it provides a cheap and easy
path for extending the CPU capacity of the machine (even in the case with that
the CPU isn't the latest and fastest it's usually much more expensive in lost
down time and possible compatibility problems to change it's motherboard or
the whole computer).

That's why most workstation PC from IBM, HP and Dell is shipped that way (only
with one processor installed, but fully ready to take another one quickly).

Best regards,

m a r t i n | n

--
Martin Nisshagen                 PGP 6.5: 0x45D423AC      K R A F T W E R K
:)
CS/CE, Chalmers, Sweden          ICQ UIN: 689662          2 x 300A @ 450 MHz
d4nisse-at-dtek-chalmers-se      home2.pp.sbbs.se/mn
home2.pp.sbbs.se/mn/kw

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From: [e-mail]                                23-Oct-99 22:48:13
  To: All                                               24-Oct-99 05:23:24
Subj: What's the deal on IBM1S506.ADD?

From: [e-mail]

I don't remember why, but I downloaded IBMDASD.ZIP.

I'm running Warp 4 at FP12.  Why are my system files a year older than those
in
this ZIP file?  Should I put the newer ones in the system?

Jim L
Remove XX from address to Email
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From: [e-mail]                           24-Oct-99 03:11:05
  To: All                                               24-Oct-99 05:23:24
Subj: Re: What's the deal on IBM1S506.ADD?

From: [e-mail] (Lorne Sunley)

On Sun, 24 Oct 1999 02:48:26, [e-mail] wrote:

> I don't remember why, but I downloaded IBMDASD.ZIP.
>
> I'm running Warp 4 at FP12.  Why are my system files a year older than those
in
> this ZIP file?  Should I put the newer ones in the system?
>

IBM has split the Warp fixpacks into two streams. one for the
general OS and a sepatate for device drivers. This occured
with fixpack 11 (I think).

The fixpack for the device drivers is available at the IBM FTP
site as well as fixpack 12. There should also be an RSU style
update for it.

URL ftp://ftp.software.ibm.com/ps/products/os2/fixes/DDPak/xr_d001/

RSU URL

http://ps.software.ibm.com/pbin-usa-ps/getobj.pl?/pdocs-usa/softupd.ht
ml

If you don't have any problems, there is no reason to install the
fixpack. The newer IBM1S506 drivers do support the larger
disk drives. Some people have reported problems with various
configurations of hardware.

Lorne Sunley

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From: [e-mail]                      24-Oct-99 03:21:20
  To: All                                               24-Oct-99 05:23:24
Subj: Re: Instructions: How To Build An OS/2 Computer

From: [e-mail]

In article <7utcf3$9gb$[e-mail]>,
  [e-mail] wrote:

> Is there a an OS/2 web site that offers instructions or
> guidelines for building my own OS/2-compatible computer?

<snip>

Well, there's not really much of a trick to it. A good place to start
is at the hardware vendor of your choice; just start picking the
hardware you want. Then check your list against this page:

The OS/2 Deice Driver Pack Online
http://service.software.ibm.com/os2ddpak/html/index.htm

And I think you'll be pleasantly surprised. :)

OS/2 doesn't really require any real pickyness reguarding hardware
anymore (with the exception of soundcards, most (but not all) PPort
scanners/removable media drives, and many (but not all) USB devices).

I base this claim, of course, on the upcoming IBM licensed version of
SciTech Display Doctor for OS/2, which will effectively make OS/2 the
equal (envy perhaps?) of other OSes in reguards to video card drivers.

Good luck!

--
-Steven Hunter               *OS/2 Warp 4 * |
[e-mail] *AMD K6-2 400* |


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From: [e-mail]                    24-Oct-99 03:45:28
  To: All                                               24-Oct-99 05:23:24
Subj: Re: Multiprocessor Support

From: [e-mail] (John Hong)

Graham C. Norris ([e-mail]) wrote:

: Oh, it was *advantages* you were looking for ... er, the original Win95
: will boot, whereas it won't with a 350 or faster CPU.

    Not exactly, this is particular to the AMD K6-2/3 line.  I have a
Celeron 366Mhz that installed/booted/ran Windows 95 OSR2 fine without the
AMD K6 350Mhz update.


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From: [e-mail]                           24-Oct-99 00:00:23
  To: All                                               24-Oct-99 05:23:24
Subj: Re: java icq & ibm lava 1.1.8

From: "Mark L. Kahnt" <[e-mail]>

"David T. Anderson" wrote:
>
> On Fri, 22 Oct 1999 23:47:26, [e-mail] (Jan Eri)
> wrote:
>
> > On Fri, 22 Oct 1999 20:36:09, "Rodney D. Myers" <[e-mail]>
> > wrote:
> > > is anyone experiencing trouble getting icq (java) to run with ibm java
1.1.8?
> > > it was working before I upgraded to 1.1.8. now I don't get anything.
> >
> > Seems my experience is opposite from the others: I had lockups and trouble
> > before 1.1.8, but now everything is perfect.
>
> It worked okay for me, both before and after 1.1.8....aside from a
> memory leak that went away when I upped my RAM to 128M.
>
> Have you tried the new native ICQ/2 by Momotech?  It's not quite as
> fully featured [ha!] as ICQJava, but it does the basics very well....
>
> David T. Anderson
> Calgary, Alberta
> http://www.agt.net/public/dtander/
>
> Using ProNews/2 for OS/2 Warp
>
> **NOSPAM**  To email me, remove the 's' from my address...

Hmmm...

I've got ICQ/2 here, but it for the longest time wouldn't connect
through to Mirabilis (although I just tried it now and it worked).

I'm probably keeping ICQJava, though, because I can use the same
executable on all three o/ses on this box, with the same configuration.
ICQ/2 has belched and lost all of my friends - which wasn't nice. It
needs to be able to import friends the way AICQ does (and support
authorisations - it didn't ask for any!).

But I've had no hint of trouble from ICQJava - it is working faster with
1.1.8 and seems quite smooth, including no observable memory leaks here
(just the fact that IBM JVM doesn't seem to release any memory until it
exits, including what is freed up in garbage collection - it may be
"free", but it doesn't seem to be available for re-use. That has been a
problem with the IBM JVM here all along.).
--

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portion of the Reply to: value.

Mark L. Kahnt, C.P. Box 1263, Kingston, Ontario   K7L 4Y8
Voix:        [phone]   Cellulaire: [phone]
Telecopieur: [phone]   Email: [e-mail]

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From: [e-mail]                           23-Oct-99 21:29:00
  To: All                                               24-Oct-99 05:23:24
Subj: Re: Changing CDROM

From: [e-mail]

In <[e-mail]>, on 10/23/99
   at 12:12 PM, [e-mail] said:

>Dear All,

>This might be something I could find in a faq.  But I dodn't know where
>the faq are!

>I installed V4, Fixpack11 onto a machine with a soundblaster+panasonic 2X
>drive.  Now I want to replace the CDROM with a faster one.  I have a
>Hitachi 8130, which works fine with NT (same machine).  Can't get OS2 to
>find the new CD and forget about the old.  I have tried various things,
>like setting it all up using the old CDROM, copying the OS2diskimage to
>Harddrive, messing around with config.sys...

>Any ideas about the right way - or anyone point me to the faq that deals
>with it.

Yes. Check to see whether or not you are running the CD as slave or driver
(assuming it's IDE) and make sure your CD is set the same way. Some CD's
don't seem to care how they're jumpered if they're the only one on the
connector, others do.


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From: [e-mail]                                 24-Oct-99 04:34:16
  To: All                                               24-Oct-99 05:23:24
Subj: Re: Multiprocessor Support

From: [e-mail]

In <[e-mail]>, "Graham C. Norris"
<[e-mail]> writes:
>"David T. Johnson" wrote:
>> A little off-topic but what is the advantage of dual P300's over a
>> single PIII 600 Mhz or Athlon 700 Mhz?
>
>a) The motherboard is probably more expensive

maybe, maybe not

>b) They require a more expensive version of OS/2 ...

check out eBay

>c) ... which doesn't support Win-OS2 fully

where do you get this idea ? Running Winos2 beautifully SMP here . .

>d) For most purposes, they will be slower

depends what you're doing, possibly ?

>Oh, it was *advantages* you were looking for ...

price/performance. Can you out-type even a Pentium 133 ?
(not counting Ami Pro OS/2, my dog can outdistance an Athlon 700
running that program)

>Graham.

--
Albert, the Mad Shirt Grinder

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From: [e-mail]                                24-Oct-99 02:06:22
  To: All                                               24-Oct-99 05:23:24
Subj: Floppies/Utilities again

From: [e-mail]

Cleaning the heads on my floppy drive seems to have helped greatly in making
utility disks.  However.

When I try to run the utilities, I get only to disk 2, the third disk.  At
that
point I get an error I have never heard of before:

 S/2 is unable to operate your hard disk or diskette drive.  The system has
stopped...

I assume the S/2 is supposed to be OS/2, but it has appeared exactly like that
both times I got the error.

Obviously it has operated both the hard drive and the floppy drive merely
getting to that point.  Does anybody have any idea why I get this unusual (to
me) error?

Jim L
Remove XX from address to Email
Crooks and kooks will get guns regardless of laws.


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From: [e-mail]                             24-Oct-99 08:20:21
  To: All                                               24-Oct-99 05:23:24
Subj: Re: Now that I have Netscape 4.61

From: [e-mail] (Dave Parsons)

X-Newsreader: ProNews/2 Version 1.50á1




On Sat, 23 Oct 1999 14:20:43, Dale Erwin <[e-mail]> wrote:

> Dave Parsons wrote:
>
> > From the Navigator main window select:-
> >   Communicator->Address Book
> > From the address book window select:-
> >   File->Import
> > and use the file selector to import your NS 2.02 address.htm directly.
> >
> > NC 4.61 does not use the html format but it can import from an HTML file.
> > Your new address book is called pab.na2.
> >
> > --
> > Dave
>
> Thanks for the info, Dave.  However, I can't seem to get it to work.  After
doing
> what you say,
> the 2.02 addresses are still not available.
> --
> Dale Erwin

Strange, I've just tested it here with a second profile and it worked
perfectly.
What did it do when you told it to import address.htm?
Does the 4.61 address book contain anything?

Can you open your 2.02 address.htm correctly as a normal HTML file in the 4.61
browser?
It should show the names in your address book and when you put the cursor
over a name it should show you something like:-
   mailto:[e-mail].
in the status line.

Also what do you have in your ...\users\erwin directory?
Does the address book still work OK under 2.02?

Or perhaps. if the 2.02 address.htm looks OK, you could see if you can set up
another profile and try to import address.htm into that.
--
Dave

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From: [e-mail]                                23-Oct-99 23:54:14
  To: All                                               24-Oct-99 05:23:24
Subj: os2 installation troubles

From: joseph <[e-mail]>

Here's my scenario:  I found an unopened copy of os2 2.1 at 1/2 price
books for 19.98.  I also got an unopened copy of warp 3 upgrade for
7.98.  Pretty good deal?  I've never used os2, but it intrigues me.   I
also have freebsd and linux-mandrake installed.  There is 5500Mb free at
the beginning of the hd, and when I try to install 2.1, I get an "fdisk
unsuccessful".  Incidentally, I have to use the warp installation disks
because the ones that came with 2.1 don't recognize my cdrom, a generic
ide/atapi.  If I remove the 2.1 cd and pop in the warp cd, I can get the
fdisk to run, but it only sees 95Mb available on the drive.  I've tried
different things.  I've used fdisk under linux to create different types
of partitions, such as fat16, hpfs, hidden os2, and I've tried it with
the partition deleted.  No luck whatever I do.
So, what can I do?  I've tried to create my own install disk directly
from the cd, thinking the problem could be in the disk.  I wasn't able
to quite pull it off under linux.  I used the dd command to copy the
files.  I don't know why, but it didn't work.  Anyhow, I wonder if the
install disks are even the problem.  Could it be hardware
incompatibility?  My hard drive is a maxtor $200 special, 20 gigs, 7200
rpm, udma66.  More likely, I think it could be the bios settings.  Does
anyone out there have any info that could help me get this thing up and
running?
Is os2 still being developed by ibm?  Do they plan to continue
releases?  Also, and I know this question comes a little early for me,
where can I get warp 4 and what does it cost?

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From: [e-mail]                                24-Oct-99 01:03:06
  To: All                                               24-Oct-99 05:23:24
Subj: Re: Floppies/Utilities again

From: [e-mail] (Will Honea)

On Sun, 24 Oct 1999 06:06:44, [e-mail] wrote:

This sounds like what I get when I have a bad floppy.  Try making new
install disks on new, goo floppies.  You may need to do a bit more
cleaning as well.  Last time I blew mine clean it looked like a dust
storm.  Guess there's something to be said for positive pressure
cooling flow!

> Cleaning the heads on my floppy drive seems to have helped greatly in making
> utility disks.  However.
>
> When I try to run the utilities, I get only to disk 2, the third disk.  At
that
> point I get an error I have never heard of before:
>
>  S/2 is unable to operate your hard disk or diskette drive.  The system has
> stopped...
>
> I assume the S/2 is supposed to be OS/2, but it has appeared exactly like
that
> both times I got the error.
>
> Obviously it has operated both the hard drive and the floppy drive merely
> getting to that point.  Does anybody have any idea why I get this unusual
(to
> me) error?
>
> Jim L
> Remove XX from address to Email
> Crooks and kooks will get guns regardless of laws.
>
>


Will Honea <[e-mail]>

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From: [e-mail]                     24-Oct-99 09:41:29
  To: All                                               24-Oct-99 10:19:13
Subj: Re: G400 drivers & software

From: [e-mail] (Glen D)

On Tue, 19 Oct 1999 21:45:54 -0500, Scott Waugh
<[e-mail]> wrote:

>  He also mentioned that their
>driver model will allow them to bring antialiasing font support to OS/2(again
>can't remember if this was coming with initial release or later, all the
stuff
>he talked about was amazing).  I don't know what the antialias thing is, but
he
>got a big round of applause when he mentioned it.

It's a way of smoothing the edges of fonts.  I'd be glad to see this
too.


Glen D
-<remove Z from my e-mail address>-

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From: [e-mail]                                24-Oct-99 05:10:05
  To: All                                               24-Oct-99 10:19:13
Subj: Re: Now that I have Netscape 4.61

From: Dale Erwin <[e-mail]>


Dave Parsons wrote:

> X-Newsreader: ProNews/2 Version 1.50á1
>
> On Sat, 23 Oct 1999 14:20:43, Dale Erwin <[e-mail]> wrote:
>
> > Dave Parsons wrote:
> >
> > > From the Navigator main window select:-
> > >   Communicator->Address Book
> > > From the address book window select:-
> > >   File->Import
> > > and use the file selector to import your NS 2.02 address.htm directly.
> > >
> > > NC 4.61 does not use the html format but it can import from an HTML
file.
> > > Your new address book is called pab.na2.
> > >
> > > --
> > > Dave
> >
> > Thanks for the info, Dave.  However, I can't seem to get it to work.
After doing
> > what you say,
> > the 2.02 addresses are still not available.
> > --
> > Dale Erwin
>
> Strange, I've just tested it here with a second profile and it worked
perfectly.
> What did it do when you told it to import address.htm?

The file selection dialog comes up and I select the 2.02 address.htm file and
click OK.

The dialog box goes away, the menu closes, and for all you know it worked, but
it
didn't.

>
> Does the 4.61 address book contain anything?

It contains 5 addresses that I have added from within Netscape after the
import failed.

>
>
> Can you open your 2.02 address.htm correctly as a normal HTML file in the
4.61
> browser?

Yes, opens just fine.


>
> It should show the names in your address book and when you put the cursor
> over a name it should show you something like:-
>    mailto:[e-mail].
> in the status line.
>
> Also what do you have in your ...\users\erwin directory?
> Does the address book still work OK under 2.02?

Yes.

>
>
> Or perhaps. if the 2.02 address.htm looks OK, you could see if you can set
up
> another profile and try to import address.htm into that.

I'll try.

>
> --
> Dave

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From: [e-mail]                                24-Oct-99 06:05:00
  To: All                                               24-Oct-99 10:19:13
Subj: Re: Now that I have Netscape 4.61

From: Dale Erwin <[e-mail]>


Dale Erwin wrote:

> Dave Parsons wrote:
>
> > X-Newsreader: ProNews/2 Version 1.50á1
> >
> > On Sat, 23 Oct 1999 14:20:43, Dale Erwin <[e-mail]> wrote:
> >
> > > Dave Parsons wrote:
> > >
> > > > From the Navigator main window select:-
> > > >   Communicator->Address Book
> > > > From the address book window select:-
> > > >   File->Import
> > > > and use the file selector to import your NS 2.02 address.htm directly.
> > > >
> > > > NC 4.61 does not use the html format but it can import from an HTML
file.
> > > > Your new address book is called pab.na2.
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Dave
> > >
> > > Thanks for the info, Dave.  However, I can't seem to get it to work.
After doing
> > > what you say,
> > > the 2.02 addresses are still not available.
> > > --
> > > Dale Erwin
> >
> > Strange, I've just tested it here with a second profile and it worked
perfectly.
> > What did it do when you told it to import address.htm?
>
> The file selection dialog comes up and I select the 2.02 address.htm file
and click OK.
>
> The dialog box goes away, the menu closes, and for all you know it worked,
but it
> didn't.
>
> >
> > Does the 4.61 address book contain anything?
>
> It contains 5 addresses that I have added from within Netscape after the
import failed.
>
> >
> >
> > Can you open your 2.02 address.htm correctly as a normal HTML file in the
4.61
> > browser?
>
> Yes, opens just fine.
>
> >
> > It should show the names in your address book and when you put the cursor
> > over a name it should show you something like:-
> >    mailto:[e-mail].
> > in the status line.
> >
> > Also what do you have in your ...\users\erwin directory?
> > Does the address book still work OK under 2.02?
>
> Yes.
>
> >
> >
> > Or perhaps. if the 2.02 address.htm looks OK, you could see if you can set
up
> > another profile and try to import address.htm into that.
>
> I'll try.

I created a new user profile and opened Netscape as the new user.  I tried to
import the
same 2.02
address book, and exactly the same thing happened:  nothing.  No complaints,
no nothing,

>
>
> >
> > --
> > Dave

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From: [e-mail]                          24-Oct-99 07:46:26
  To: All                                               24-Oct-99 14:29:20
Subj: Re: How to Transfer File with serial port?

From: fledermaus <[e-mail]>

Ref:     Append at 12:22:14 on 99/10/23 GMT (by [e-mail] (Bob Eager)
Use a parallel port with a special laplink cable, about $10 and FREE
software called LPTOOLS - it works great, www.fsys.demon.nl

""

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From: [e-mail]                             24-Oct-99 09:35:16
  To: All                                               24-Oct-99 14:29:20
Subj: FS: 16MB Server95

From: Daniel Tulloch <[e-mail]>

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Adaptec AHA-1640 SCSI Adapter
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16MB Parity RAM
Quantum Pro-Drive LPS 240MB SCSI-2 HDD

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From: [e-mail]                             24-Oct-99 09:36:29
  To: All                                               24-Oct-99 14:29:20
Subj: FS: 48MB Server95

From: Daniel Tulloch <[e-mail]>

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From: [e-mail]                             24-Oct-99 09:33:05
  To: All                                               24-Oct-99 14:29:20
Subj: FS: 32MB Server95

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Adaptec AHA-1640 SCSI Adapter
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From: [e-mail]                                24-Oct-99 09:16:24
  To: All                                               24-Oct-99 14:29:21
Subj: Re: Instructions: How To Build An OS/2 Computer

From: "Matt Walsh" <[e-mail]>

I got my last one from Indelible Blue who let me configure it and did the Warp
install perfectly for me.  For a fair price.


On Sat, 23 Oct 1999 22:22:28 GMT, [e-mail] wrote:

>Is there a an OS/2 web site that offers instructions or
>guidelines for building my own OS/2-compatible computer?
>
>I'd really like to go to a site that offered me step-by-step
>instructions for building my own computer specifically for OS/2.
>You know, offer me as many web addresses for as possible for
>ordering the specific hardware needed so I could get the best
>buys possible.  Once all the parts are received I could ten
>relog on to the site and walk through a step-by-step process
>of putting the hardware together and then installing my base
>Warp 4 system.  Follow that by installing all the latest updates.
>
>If such a site is available this would be a great help to those
>of us "do it yourselfers" or to other bright OS/2 entrepreneurs
>who we could contract with to put such a system together.
>
>If such a site existed then anyone could sit down and create
>they own system.  Once built they could advertise it for sale
>and create a new system, constantly updating their knowledge
>and the OS/2 systems they offer.  I'd jumpt at the chance to
>buy a system from some knowledgeable OS/2 entrepreneur who
>said: "Pay me three so and so bucks then buy the necessary
>hardware (parts) and I'll put together the best OS/2 system
>I can based upon the parts you buy."
>
>That would be great!  Is there such a site and if not, why
>not?
>
>Here's hopin'
>
>Jeff
>
>
>Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
>Before you buy.


Matt Walsh  El Paso, TX
Computin' & Shootin' in the dust.


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From: [e-mail]                                     24-Oct-99 16:03:08
  To: All                                               24-Oct-99 14:29:21
Subj: Re: Multiprocessor Support

From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Bj=F8rn?= Vermo <[e-mail]>

"David T. Johnson" wrote:

> >
> A little off-topic but what is the advantage of dual P300's over a
> single PIII 600 Mhz or Athlon 700 Mhz?

There is no advantage. SMP is useful when the fastest processor in the world
is not fast enough, or when many slower processors plus the
added cost of an SMP board plus the cost of the SMP software come cheaper than
the fastest processor.

Usually, true SMP is only desirable in very high end equipment. An SMP
motherboard is dramatically more expensive than a single processor
one. There is a "poor man's SMP' - Dual Processor. It is fairly easy to design
a board (or an operating system) for, so they are
relatively cheap. With the premium you will have to pay for the newest top-end
processor, it can easily be cheaper to buy a DP board and
two reasonably priced processors. They will also be supported by cheap (like
Linux) operating systems, and the NT client will support DP
quite well.

The OS/2 SMP servers are optimized for the high-end SMP systems (up to 64
processors), but work perfectly with DP systems. With NT, you
can purchase server versions which support more than two processors. The price
increases in steps with the number of processors. Scaling
is fairly good, but not up to WSeB standards. With Linux and some free UNIXes,
you have theoretical support for SMP but the efficiency is
poor when the number of processors is increased beyond two. With commercial
UNIX, you get what you pay for.



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From: [e-mail]                                     24-Oct-99 17:19:29
  To: All                                               24-Oct-99 14:29:21
Subj: Re: what brand and model PC today to buy for OS/2 ?

From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Bj=F8rn?= Vermo <[e-mail]>

Zeus Paleologos wrote:

>
> - brand name equipment and, I might add, of proven technology
>     and reliability.  Indeed, reliability might be my number 1
>     requirement.

OK - IBM (real thing, not the Aptiva) are reliable beyond the obsolescence
point. The IBM PC-xxx comes in models with OS/2, while the servers come in
versions with no OS (or even with no disk installed). The Intellistation
series does not support OS/2 well.

Siemens seem to be reliable.

Compaq used to be more reliable than any, but seem to have faded. Besides,
they have often had compatibility  problems. So has Hewlett-Packard, who
otherwise have an excellent track record for reliability.

>
> 1 - Regarding OS/2, does it matter whether I choose a PC model with
>     a Celeron, Pentium II or Pentium III processor ?

Not a bit, unless you will do database work or suchlike which Intel have
tried to make the Celeron less suitable for.

>
> 2 - Does OS/2 handle large ( > 2GBytes) HDD's ?  I understand it is a
>     major headache to configure a PC and partition a large HDD today
>     to allow the booting and running of either Win98, Linux, or OS/2
>     on the same unit.

Any high-reliability and high-performance configuration should use SCSI.
Then the client version of OS/2 will at least handle 512GB drives if you
split them into 64GB partitions.
The server handles 2TB partitions.

With ATA-drives, you will always have a can of worms. They are available in
cheaper versions than the SCSI drives, but if you want high reliability the
price difference dwindles. The ATA-standard is a cludge upon a cludge upon a
cludge to use the old AT-bus as a disk drive interface. It works rather
well, but every year there is a new standard which needs new drivers in
order to support the newest drives.

Running several systems on the same unit does not go well with 24/7
operation. It might be a better idea to retain the old system for use with
the less used OSes, and as extra resources in a network. To boot multiple
systems from a drive, the BIOS must be able to access it in real mode. That
means that every actual boot partition must be within the first 1024
(translated) cylinders. It alsomeans that none of the systems may use any
nonstandard disk mapping drivers.

>
> 4 - Should I plan on installing Warp 4 on whatever I get or will
>     Warp 3 still be a possibility ?
>

Warp 3 is a possibility if the current level does what you need, but you
should not expect much in the way of future fixes except for the server
functions.

>
> 5 - Is OS/2 support available for the range and kinds of peripherals
>     in variety that I have indicated I will eventually add to my system?

OS/2 support for heavy-duty, high-reliability equipment is excellent, and
seems to be improving all the time. If you will eventually want to add new
low-end or typical home-user peripherals, you will risk that it either does
not work at all or that only a subset is supported.


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From: [e-mail]                                     24-Oct-99 16:38:20
  To: All                                               24-Oct-99 14:29:21
Subj: Re: Latest version of os2??!!

From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Bj=F8rn?= Vermo <[e-mail]>

Zeus Paleologos wrote:

>
> Just curious, but what is the difference between Client and Server
> versions?

The server is fundamentally a client with some extras. Most of it has to do
with multiuser
(client) support with security, management, and error monitoring.

A Warp server consists of the base OS, networking, 32-bit TCP/IP. backup, NFS,
PPP server,
a client install CD and management software, and some extra utilities. The
current version
includes the fast, high-capacity JFS file system and SMP.

It also comes with one of the best baxkup systems available on any operating
system. The
problem with the server is that it seems expensive for somebody with small
needs, but it
includes things which cost extra on other systems. A 5-client NT server is
slightly
cheaper, but you will probably not want to make do with the rudimentary backup
software
that comes with it



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From: [e-mail]                               24-Oct-99 15:59:06
  To: All                                               24-Oct-99 14:29:21
Subj: Re: Instructions: How To Build An OS/2 Computer

From: [e-mail]

In article <7utu03$kn6$[e-mail]>,
  [e-mail] wrote:
> In article <7utcf3$9gb$[e-mail]>,
>   [e-mail] wrote:
>
> > Is there a an OS/2 web site that offers instructions or
> > guidelines for building my own OS/2-compatible computer?
>
> <snip>
>
> Well, there's not really much of a trick to it. A good place to start
> is at the hardware vendor of your choice; just start picking the
> hardware you want. Then check your list against this page:
>
> The OS/2 Deice Driver Pack Online
> http://service.software.ibm.com/os2ddpak/html/index.htm
>
> And I think you'll be pleasantly surprised. :)

Maybe I'm not making myself clear.  What I'd like, and I'm sure
many others too, would be a clear set of page by page instructions
and guides from another OS/2 user who has put together a great OS/2
Warp system(s).

The visitor could go to a web page and select one of several systems
to build.  Everything from the cheapest barest system to a top-of-the
-line power machine.  The user selects the system he wants to
build and follows the page by page instructions. I want to build
the system myself and save the labor and hardware markup costs that
a commercial vendor would charge.  I recently sent my system in
for repair and was charged $400 for a new 10.2 Gig hard drive.
The repair people were lost at how to install OS/2 on such a system
and I spent more time telling and directing them than I should have
had to do.  They promised to repair the system and return it
within 24 hours but it took a week and all they did was slap a new
hard drive in the system.  I could have done that and did soon after
I got the drive partitioned and OS/2 back on the system.  I bought
another 10.2Gig drive and installed it as a slave raising my hard
disk space from 6Gig to 20Gig.  The repair people charged me an
enormous price for labor and a high markup for the hardware they
installed AND they kept my system away from me for a full week
and returned it with NO operating system.

I'm an absolute novice when it comes to computers but building my
own system would change that and give me a better understanding of
how they work from a hardware viewpoint. I'm a college student barely
making ends meet.

> OS/2 doesn't really require any real pickyness reguarding hardware
> anymore (with the exception of soundcards, most (but not all) PPort
> scanners/removable media drives, and many (but not all) USB devices).

This is exactly what I mean.  Rather than spending countless hours
seeking out help for the best soundcard, the most successful scanner,
RM drives, etc., is there a site that will say something like, "for
the system you are building you have three choices of sound cards.
(1) Sound Card One, (2) Two, and (3) Three.  Click on the card you
can afford or want and order it online or note the specs/brand
needed for purchasing from your local computer store.  If you now
have the card follow these instructions for installing it on your
system..."

> I base this claim, of course, on the upcoming IBM licensed version of
> SciTech Display Doctor for OS/2, which will effectively make OS/2 the
> equal (envy perhaps?) of other OSes in reguards to video card
> drivers.

One of the main reasons why I'd like to build my own system stems
from the product above.  It totally ruined my system and cost me
over $400 in repair costs and more than two weeks of my own labor
putting my system back together.  Yes, I know the version I installed
and tried was advertised as a "Preview" version but I believed it was
safe, after all it was a PREVIEW and no mention of BETA was made.

There has been much hype about IBM licensing SDD and this led me to
believe it must be an important and helpful product.  I had no idea it
would screw up my monitor/display and delete my S3 drivers completely.
At most, I figured when installed it would check my display/monitor,
tell me it could (or couldn not) be improved through various settings
and ask if I wanted those settings/drivers tried.

The program didn't do that at all.  It destroyed my ability to view
my system and when uninstalled it not only returned me to VGA mode
but deleted my previous S3 updated drivers.  But it did more damage
than that.  I tried turning to my college buddies but could find
no one familiar enough with OS/2 or who cared enough or even wanted
to try offering assistance.  "That's OS/2 for ya... you should get
a 'real' operating system like NT..."

I don't know what portion of SDD IBM is buying into and why they are
doing so.  My experience with the well publicized 'Preview' version
of SDD has sworn me off of ever trying anything but a commercial
release of any program.  I will wait until others have tried it, have
similar hardware as myself, and I feel confident enough to take the
chance.  I had a great OS/2 system and it is still not back to what
it was before installing SDD.

> Good luck!

Thank you for your response.  Good dialog is important and the only
way we all learn new things.

> --
> -Steven Hunter               *OS/2 Warp 4 * |
> [e-mail] *AMD K6-2 400* |

Jeff


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From: [e-mail]                                   24-Oct-99 09:46:10
  To: All                                               24-Oct-99 16:44:17
Subj: Re: os2 installation troubles

From: [e-mail]

In <[e-mail]>, on 10/23/99
   at 11:54 PM, joseph <[e-mail]> said:

Download idedasd from
http://www3.software.ibm.com/os2ddpak/html/C58F9C5A903C33178625665900593E36.htm
l
Follow the readme as to how to install the drivers which are necessary to
access the hard drive. You will need 7 or 8 megs of free space at the
beginning of the hard drive for Boot Manager, a utility which will allow
you to boot the desired OS. Don't waste your time with 2.1. You will need
to apply the latest fixpack to Warp 3 available from
http://ps.software.ibm.com/pbin-usa-ps/getobj.pl?/pdocs-usa/softupd.html
The fixpack is essential. An easy method for upgrading all components of
the base OS is to obtain the CD Warp-up from indelible-blue.com for $19.
RJF


>Here's my scenario:  I found an unopened copy of os2 2.1 at 1/2 price
>books for 19.98.  I also got an unopened copy of warp 3 upgrade for 7.98.
>Pretty good deal?  I've never used os2, but it intrigues me.   I also
>have freebsd and linux-mandrake installed.  There is 5500Mb free at the
>beginning of the hd, and when I try to install 2.1, I get an "fdisk
>unsuccessful".  Incidentally, I have to use the warp installation disks
>because the ones that came with 2.1 don't recognize my cdrom, a generic
>ide/atapi.  If I remove the 2.1 cd and pop in the warp cd, I can get the
>fdisk to run, but it only sees 95Mb available on the drive.  I've tried
>different things.  I've used fdisk under linux to create different types
>of partitions, such as fat16, hpfs, hidden os2, and I've tried it with
>the partition deleted.  No luck whatever I do.
>So, what can I do?  I've tried to create my own install disk directly
>from the cd, thinking the problem could be in the disk.  I wasn't able to
>quite pull it off under linux.  I used the dd command to copy the files.
>I don't know why, but it didn't work.  Anyhow, I wonder if the install
>disks are even the problem.  Could it be hardware incompatibility?  My
>hard drive is a maxtor $200 special, 20 gigs, 7200 rpm, udma66.  More
>likely, I think it could be the bios settings.  Does anyone out there
>have any info that could help me get this thing up and running?
>Is os2 still being developed by ibm?  Do they plan to continue releases?
>Also, and I know this question comes a little early for me, where can I
>get warp 4 and what does it cost?


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From: [e-mail]                          24-Oct-99 14:44:19
  To: All                                               24-Oct-99 16:44:17
Subj: Re: os2 installation troubles

From: [e-mail] (Annie K.)

On Sun, 24 Oct 1999 06:54:29, joseph <[e-mail]> wrote:

:Here's my scenario:  I found an unopened copy of os2 2.1 at 1/2 price
:books for 19.98.  I also got an unopened copy of warp 3 upgrade for
:7.98.  Pretty good deal?

 For Warp 3, yes. For 2.1, no.

:I've never used os2, but it intrigues me.   I
:also have freebsd and linux-mandrake installed.  There is 5500Mb free at
:the beginning of the hd, and when I try to install 2.1, I get an "fdisk
:unsuccessful".  Incidentally, I have to use the warp installation disks
:because the ones that came with 2.1 don't recognize my cdrom, a generic
:ide/atapi.

 Of course it doesn't. Have you looked at the date on the box? Even
Warp 3 came out just shortly before the ATAPI standard was finalized,
so if you want to install Warp 3, you'll need to update copies of its
install floppies first or you'll get the same error. See
ftp://ftp.software.ibm.com/ps/products/os2/os2ddpak/idedasd.exe

:If I remove the 2.1 cd and pop in the warp cd, I can get the
:fdisk to run, but it only sees 95Mb available on the drive.  I've tried
:different things.  I've used fdisk under linux to create different types
:of partitions, such as fat16, hpfs, hidden os2, and I've tried it with
:the partition deleted.  No luck whatever I do.

 Not at all surprising.

:So, what can I do?

 Forget 2.1, and install Warp 3. Warp 3, unlike 2.1 can be updated to
Y2K-compliancy by installing its most recent fixpak; 2.1 will never be
Y2K-compliant.

:I've tried to create my own install disk directly
:from the cd, thinking the problem could be in the disk.  I wasn't able
:to quite pull it off under linux.  I used the dd command to copy the
:files.  I don't know why, but it didn't work.  Anyhow, I wonder if the
:install disks are even the problem.  Could it be hardware
:incompatibility?  My hard drive is a maxtor $200 special, 20 gigs, 7200
:rpm, udma66.  More likely, I think it could be the bios settings.  Does
:anyone out there have any info that could help me get this thing up and
:running?
:Is os2 still being developed by ibm?

 Not the client version, no; although they do still release fixpaks
and other updates for it.

:Do they plan to continue
:releases?  Also, and I know this question comes a little early for me,
:where can I get warp 4 and what does it cost?

 Best place is Ebay, or one of the other online auction sites. Or
haunt comp.os.os2.marketplace.

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From: [e-mail]               24-Oct-99 10:20:00
  To: All                                               24-Oct-99 16:44:17
Subj: Re: Multiprocessor Support

From: "Kim Cheung" <[e-mail]>

On Sun, 24 Oct 1999 16:03:16 +0200, Bj rn Vermo wrote:

>"David T. Johnson" wrote:
>
>> >
>> A little off-topic but what is the advantage of dual P300's over a
>> single PIII 600 Mhz or Athlon 700 Mhz?
>
>There is no advantage. SMP is useful when the fastest processor in the world
is not fast enough, or when many slower processors plus the
>added cost of an SMP board plus the cost of the SMP software come cheaper
than the fastest processor.

I disagree.   Any heavily threaded program benefits tremendously from SMP -
even with dual processor.   On the 325 that I have, you can see the obvious
effect.

The problem with doing it under other non-thread centric OS is that they use
it for loosely coupled multi-processing and for that you don't get as much
benefit from SMP.


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From: [e-mail]                                    24-Oct-99 12:29:05
  To: All                                               24-Oct-99 16:44:17
Subj: Re: cincyteamos2?

From: [e-mail] (Dan Casey)

In article
<[e-mail]>,
Dale Erwin <[e-mail]> wrote:
>
>The DFW user group also appears to have faded out of existence.  It went
>steadily downhill after
>Jim Stuyck retired.  When I was in Los Angeles, the LA group was a waste of
>time.  The SCOUG
>is, of course, VERY fine, but it was a 90-mile drive for me.
>
>So here I am feeling sequestered from the OS/2 community except for these
>ngs.
>--
>Dale Erwin
>Dallas, Texas

Dale, you can always join VOICE (Virtual OS/2 International Consumer
Education). We're an Online User Group (Virtual) and meet in IRC on
the 1st and 3rd Monday of each month. One of the reasons VOICE was
founded was for users who had no local OS/2 User Group.

You don't have to be a member to join the meetings. Go to:
http://www.os2voice.org
And flow the links to Meeting Info. There, you'll find links to a list
of WEBBnet IRC Servers, Links to download freeware or Shareware IRC
Clients, and links to instructions on getting started with IRC
(Internet Relay Chat).



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*  V.O.I.C.E. (Virtual OS/2 International Consumer Education *
*  http://www.os2voice.org                                   *
*  Abraxas on IRC                                            *
*  http://members.iquest.net/~dcasey                         *
*  Charter Associate member, Team SETI                       *
*  Warpstock 99 in Atlanta  http://www.warpstock.org         *
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From: [e-mail]                    24-Oct-99 10:47:01
  To: All                                               24-Oct-99 16:44:17
Subj: Re: Multiprocessor Support

From: "Graham C. Norris" <[e-mail]>

John Hong wrote:
>
> Graham C. Norris ([e-mail]) wrote:
>
> : Oh, it was *advantages* you were looking for ... er, the original Win95
> : will boot, whereas it won't with a 350 or faster CPU.
>
>         Not exactly, this is particular to the AMD K6-2/3 line.  I have a
> Celeron 366Mhz that installed/booted/ran Windows 95 OSR2 fine without the
> AMD K6 350Mhz update.

Note that I said *the original Win95*. OSR2 is *NOT* the original.

Graham.

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From: alessandro.carini@don't.spam.here                 24-Oct-99 18:50:09
  To: All                                               24-Oct-99 16:44:17
Subj: www.warpstock.de

From: "Alessandro Carini" <alessandro.carini@don't.spam.here>

Anybody knows how to contact the warpstock.de webmaster to inform him that
the link in the page
Qualcuno sa come contattare il webmaster di warpstock per segnalare che alla
loro pagina

    http://www.warpstock.de/sessions99.en.html

Nella sezione
In section

    Sessions and Workshops

Lead to a phisical drive Z instead of an url.
Puntano ad un drive fisico

[e-mail] -  http://users.iol.it/alessandro.carini/
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From: [e-mail]                           24-Oct-99 18:12:15
  To: All                                               24-Oct-99 16:44:17
Subj: Re: what brand and model PC today to buy for OS/2 ?

From: Zeus Paleologos <[e-mail]>

In article <[e-mail]> on Sun, 24 Oct 1999 17:19:59 +0200,
 Bj?rn Vermo <[e-mail]> wrote:

> OK - IBM (real thing, not the Aptiva) are reliable beyond the obsolescence
> point.

Thank you for your informative response.  I have an IBM 486/33
Ultimedia PC that has been running for 6 years (24/7).  I had
to replace the power supply last month but that is still pretty
good.

But please explain what you mean when you say that Aptiva is
not the real thing.  Also, are any of the retail outlets in
the US likely to carry the real thing?  Is anyone aware of
a number at IBM where they could tell me who in my area would
stock these products?

Thanks again.

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From: [e-mail]                      24-Oct-99 19:13:26
  To: All                                               24-Oct-99 16:44:17
Subj: Interesting TrueType tid-bit...

From: [e-mail]


Hmmmm... Hex-edit (or just open in e.exe) a TrueType Font file...

Anyone else see some interesting text in there? :)

I've checked some TTF files on other people's computers, and it's the
same thing. Fonts that OS/2 doesn't even know I have, also have this.

What the heck is up with that??

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[e-mail] *AMD K6-2 400* |


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From: [e-mail]                                24-Oct-99 16:11:08
  To: All                                               24-Oct-99 19:49:27
Subj: Re: Interesting TrueType tid-bit...

From: [e-mail] (Jerry McBride)

In article <7uvlpg$nur$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] wrote:
>
>
>Hmmmm... Hex-edit (or just open in e.exe) a TrueType Font file...
>

Point one (font file) out and I'll have a look...


>Anyone else see some interesting text in there? :)
>
>I've checked some TTF files on other people's computers, and it's the
>same thing. Fonts that OS/2 doesn't even know I have, also have this.
>
>What the heck is up with that??
>
>--
>-Steven Hunter               *OS/2 Warp 4 * |
>[e-mail] *AMD K6-2 400* |
>
>
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From: [e-mail]                               24-Oct-99 20:20:11
  To: All                                               24-Oct-99 19:49:27
Subj: Re: cincyteamos2?

From: [e-mail] (Esther Schindler)

It's a frustrating situation, I know. Back when the Team OS/2 section
of the Compuserve OS/2 Forum was "the" place to hang out, I wrote a
few long diatribes about the requirement of a user group to charge
dues. The ones that don't charge dues fade away. The ones that charge
something, however modest, have a much better chance of making it.

It has little to do with the group's need for money. I think it's a
kind of commitment on the part of the user... you paid something to
belong, you might as well show up at the meeting and "get your money's
worth."

At least you _can_ get to a user group meeting, Dale, even if it's 90
miles away. That's not the case for several members of the Phoenix
OS/2 Society... we have members in 19 countries and nearly every U.S.
state. (Know any OS/2 users in South Dakota?)

--Esther

On Sat, 23 Oct 1999 14:30:48, Dale Erwin <[e-mail]> wrote:
| The DFW user group also appears to have faded out of existence.  It went
| steadily downhill after
| Jim Stuyck retired.  When I was in Los Angeles, the LA group was a waste of
| time.  The SCOUG
| is, of course, VERY fine, but it was a 90-mile drive for me.
|
| So here I am feeling sequestered from the OS/2 community except for these
| ngs.




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From: doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net                     24-Oct-99 20:21:10
  To: All                                               24-Oct-99 19:49:27
Subj: Re: Floppy problems

From: doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net (Doug Bissett)

On Sun, 24 Oct 1999 01:45:09, [e-mail] wrote:

> James Moe <[e-mail]> said:
>
> > Have you tried using a cleaning disk on the drive(s)? I seem to
> >recall having this sort of problem and cleaning fixed it. If the drive sits
> >idle for looooong time, crud builds up on the heads and effect their
> >sensitivity.
>
> Well, I think you may have hit on the answer.  I haven't cleaned a floppy
drive
> in years.  Thanks for the reminder.
>
> Jim L
> Remove XX from address to Email
> Crooks and kooks will get guns regardless of laws.
>
>

Having used PCs, since 1981, and having worked in the service end of
the computer business (not, specifically with PCs, but I did get
involved with the tougher problems sometimes), I will make two
statements about cleaning diskette drives.
1) DON'T DO IT.
2) If you do clean one, clean it often, since it will get dirty.

I have an old machine (1981 IBM PC, the ORIGINAL). The diskette drive
(single sided 5 1/4 inch) has NEVER been cleaned, and it still works,
with no indication af any problems. In fact, the only time I ever saw
anybody with intermittant diskette problems (most  just quit working
when they fail), was when they cleaned them. I NEVER clean diskette
drives, and I have NEVER had a problem with one.

Take from that, what you will...
******************************
From the PC of Doug Bissett
doug.bissett at attglobal.net
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From: doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net                     24-Oct-99 20:21:11
  To: All                                               24-Oct-99 19:49:27
Subj: Re: Multiprocessor Support

From: doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net (Doug Bissett)

On Sat, 23 Oct 1999 15:31:51, "David T. Johnson"
<[e-mail]> wrote:

> Richard Hanson wrote:
> >
> > Quick question: Does OS/2 Warp v.4 support dual processors? I was thinking
of installing it on a Tyan Tomcat 4.02 with dual P300's.
> >
> A little off-topic but what is the advantage of dual P300's over a
> single PIII 600 Mhz or Athlon 700 Mhz?

You know, that is a very difficult question, and there is no real
answer. It depends on so many variables, that one user might find that
(s)he gets a real performance boost (over a single processor), and
another will find performance degradation.

Way back, in 1968, I worked on an old IBM mainframe (the 2065, for
those who might remember), which had a multiple processor
configuration (2). The MP was found to perform anywhere from 2 to 5
times what a single (identical) processor could do (in a production
environment). A lot of research was done, to try to figure this out,
but I think the analysis was faulty, or they never did figure it out,
because more modern multiprocessor systems performed somewhere less
than 2 over a single processor. I have no idea how these numbers
relate to the PC, but I suspect that they are similar. Then there is
the operating system. Properly designed, and multithreaded, like OS/2,
it will do much better than something that doesn't have the ability to
assign work to the processors in such a way that it can keep them
busy. Then there are the programs running under the OS. If they are
properly designed, and mutithreaded, so the OS has something to work
with, they can make a tremendous difference to performance.

So, yes, two processors can outrun a single (twice as fast) processor,
but only if the configuration is correct. I suspect that, even with
other things being optimal, that a single 600 mhz processor will
outrun dual 300 mhz processors, just because there is less overhead to
dispatch the job stream.

Hope this helps...
******************************
From the PC of Doug Bissett
doug.bissett at attglobal.net
The " at " must be changed to "@"
******************************

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From: [e-mail]                    24-Oct-99 20:14:20
  To: All                                               24-Oct-99 19:49:27
Subj: Re: what brand and model PC today to buy for OS/2 ?

From: [e-mail] (John Hong)

Zeus Paleologos ([e-mail]) wrote:

: But please explain what you mean when you say that Aptiva is
: not the real thing.

    IBM does not make the Aptiva's, they are actually Acer clone's
with the IBM badge on them.


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From: doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net                     24-Oct-99 20:21:12
  To: All                                               24-Oct-99 19:49:27
Subj: Re: os2 installation troubles

From: doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net (Doug Bissett)

On Sun, 24 Oct 1999 06:54:29, joseph <[e-mail]> wrote:

> Here's my scenario:  I found an unopened copy of os2 2.1 at 1/2 price
> books for 19.98.  I also got an unopened copy of warp 3 upgrade for
> 7.98.  Pretty good deal?

No, and yes... OS/2 2.1, is obsolete, and cannot be upgraded to be Y2K
compliant. Warp3 is useful. You should be able to install it, without
having the older version installed.

>I've never used os2, but it intrigues me.   I
> also have freebsd and linux-mandrake installed.  There is 5500Mb free at
> the beginning of the hd, and when I try to install 2.1, I get an "fdisk
> unsuccessful".  Incidentally, I have to use the warp installation disks
> because the ones that came with 2.1 don't recognize my cdrom, a generic
> ide/atapi.

You might as well throw 2.1 in the garbage, but it does make the warp3
upgrade legal, so you may want to just put it at the back of a shelf
somewhere.

> If I remove the 2.1 cd and pop in the warp cd, I can get the
> fdisk to run, but it only sees 95Mb available on the drive.  I've tried
> different things.  I've used fdisk under linux to create different types
> of partitions, such as fat16, hpfs, hidden os2, and I've tried it with
> the partition deleted.  No luck whatever I do.

You need the IDE driver update, to support disks larger than 4.3 gig
(this should support your CD-ROM, as well), for starters. Go to
http://service.software.ibm.com/os2ddpak/html/index.htm and find the
file IDEDASD.EXE (you will find it in many places), which is a self
extracting file and has instructions in it.

> So, what can I do?  I've tried to create my own install disk directly
> from the cd, thinking the problem could be in the disk.  I wasn't able
> to quite pull it off under linux.  I used the dd command to copy the
> files.  I don't know why, but it didn't work.

There are two BAT files, and two CMD files (for OS/2) on the CD. One
of the BAT (CMD) files will produce a set of 3 install diskettes, the
other will create a complete set of diskettes, so you can install from
diskettes, rather than from the CD (if you don't have a CD drive). The
BAT files run under DOS (and, perhaps other compatible systems), the
CMD files are for OS/2.

>Anyhow, I wonder if the
> install disks are even the problem.  Could it be hardware
> incompatibility?  My hard drive is a maxtor $200 special, 20 gigs, 7200
> rpm, udma66.  More likely, I think it could be the bios settings.  Does
> anyone out there have any info that could help me get this thing up and
> running?

Hopefully, someone can help... You need to give us a little more
information, size, and type, off hard disk, type of CD-ROM, type of
modem, type of processor, type of sound card, type of video card, etc.
As well as how you have your disk partitions set up, and anything else
that you think might have anything to do with installing  the
software. Also, tell us which version of warp3 you got (Red box, Blue
box, Connect).

I also suggest that you go to the OS/2 supersite, and look around in
the New User links. There is a LOT of good information in there.

> Is os2 still being developed by ibm?  Do they plan to continue
> releases?  Also, and I know this question comes a little early for me,
> where can I get warp 4 and what does it cost?

IBM has, recently, released OS/2 for e-business, which seems to be an
updated warp4 server version, but it is not geared toward the home, or
small business, user. They are also, actively releasing (apparently
quarterly) fix packs for warp3 server version(???) (which can be
applied to warp3, with a work around, that is available), and warp4.
Support for warp3 client version, apparently, is over after fix pack
40 (not all that old, and it does update warp3 to be Y2K compliant).
The bad news is that IBM doesn't seem to want any SOHO (Small Office,
Home Office), or home, users. All they want are the big corporations
for OS/2 customers, and it is almost impossible to get any kind of
assistance, or support, out of them (unless you are rich, and can
afford to buy a, very expensive, service contract). On the good side,
there is a lot of good support in these news groups.

I expect that your more immediate concern would be "HOW" to install
warp3 on your system. This could be a problem, since you will,
probably, need to install the OS/2 Boot manager, which must be
completely within the first 1023 cylinders of your drive, and the OS/2
boot partition must, also, be completely within the first 1023
cylinders of your drive (the machine's BIOS must be able to read the
partitions). Since you also have other operating systems, you may not
have your disk set up in such a way that this is possible. More
details, may get you some good suggestions.

As for warp4, Look for that at e-bay, or at Indelible Blue
(http://www.indelible-blue.com/). Warp4 doesn't really have a lot of
things that are new, and warp3 with the latest fix pack, does have
about 90% (or more) of the, usefull, warp4 stuff. I would not worry
about warp4, until you try warp3, and decide you want to use some of
the things that are unique to warp4. Plug and Play may be a problem.
Warp3 does not support PnP, warp4 does.

Once you get warp3 installed, and updated to the latest fix pack, you
will have MANY more questions. Be prepared for a fairly steep learning
experience (although that should not be a real problem), and be sure
to run through the tutorial, and read through the help sections. OS/2
is very similar to DOS, at the command line level, and it is very
similar to Windows at the GUI level, but it does have a LOT of things
that are very different.

Hope this helps...
******************************
From the PC of Doug Bissett
doug.bissett at attglobal.net
The " at " must be changed to "@"
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From: [e-mail]                             24-Oct-99 13:19:01
  To: All                                               24-Oct-99 19:49:27
Subj: Re: Warp 4, Fixpak 12 / Service Halts

From: "David T. Johnson" <[e-mail]>

[e-mail] wrote:
>
> >It seems to get much use out of OS/2, you have to install Fixpaks.
>
> I'd disgree . . if this is your first venture into OS/2 land, I'd put off
the fixpacks
> for a bit. OS/2 no-fixed runs fine,  if you're like me you'll learn enough
> in the beginning to want to reinstall with fewer bad choices later anyway.

I would go ahead and install the fixpack.  It only takes a few minutes
and will provide the Y2K update as well.  But you are right, the fixpack
does not add significant new functionality.  The main thing I can think
of is the REGEDIT2 function.  The system will be a little snappier with
the fixpack, however.


>
> >Syslevel.exe reports the same version number as in Syslevel.os2:
> >XR04000.  Syslevel.os2 contains many directory and file names.  Not all
> >of those are present on my machine since I thought I'd wait until after
> >applying the Fixpak before attempting to install the sound system and
> >MultiMedia features.
>
> bad idea. the part that needs fixing most is multimedia ! you want the
> fixpack to update MMOS2 *for sure*, so you should get the complete
> system up and running first (IMHO) then run the Fpack.

Actually, you can apply the fixpack and then install MMOS2 later if you
want.  When you run service.exe (the fixtool), it will see that the
service level of the system is updated and will only update the
multimedia stuff.  If you use fixpack disks, this means you might just
need a couple of disks rather than 16 or something like that.


> For what it's
> worth, I've had the best success with a 'fastkick141.zip' from Hobbes,
> DIUNPACK the disk files to a temp directory, use the .cmd program to
> do the work of updating. I've also had some *evil* results with that
> "such-and-such file on your hard disk is newer" dialog. These days, I
> don't care *what* it asks, it all gets updated and I can deal with
> "newer files" later if necessary. Had the system refuse to boot again
> too many times because the "newer file on the hard drive" wasn't.
> Mr Spalten has explained how this works, 'newness' is not the entire
> criterion, but the message is misleading. Ignore it !
>
> >
> >Can anyone suggest where to go from here, or more information I could
> >provide to assist a solution?
>
> advice is cheap, but IMO you should get everything you want to use
> installed at base level, use it for a bit like that, then go for the
fixpacks.
>
> the readme's have a lot of information, but you have to read them
> pretty carefully to get max understanding. They've been improved
> recently, but there's stll a lot to pick up in one sitting, especially if
> this is a new system to you. And again, I like the fastkick method,
> but there's several to choose from, look over at hobbes and find
> one you like.
>
> >
> >thanks
> >
>
> --
> Albert, the Mad Shirt Grinder

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From: [e-mail]                                  24-Oct-99 20:32:24
  To: All                                               24-Oct-99 19:49:27
Subj: Re: cincyteamos2?

From: Jim Stuyck <[e-mail]>


Dale Erwin wrote:

>
>
> The DFW user group also appears to have faded out of existence.  It went
> steadily downhill after
> Jim Stuyck retired.  When I was in Los Angeles, the LA group was a waste of
> time.  The SCOUG
> is, of course, VERY fine, but it was a 90-mile drive for me.
>

Er...thanks(?), I think.  Actually, there were several factors that led to the
demise of the DFW OS/2 User's Group, and a lot of the decline was purely
coincidental in that it took place after I stepped down from the leadership
of the group.

I think the biggest contributor was the change in direction IBM took
regarding "OS/2 support."  Basically, even *before* I retired, IBM's
support was pretty much withdrawn.  We did have use of their facilities,
free, but the "OS/2 marketing group" was disbanded.  There NEVER
were dues, we never charged admission, and we ALWAYS had loads
of giveaways at our meetings.  The freebies probably contributed to
the great turnouts we had, month after month.  ;-)

A little later, the group attempted to hold meetings on Saturday mornings,
instead of weekday nights, and that really killed it.

The web site, http://www.dfwos2.org , is still there but hasn't been updated
in a very long time.

<sigh>

Jim Stuyck

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From: [e-mail]                             24-Oct-99 13:32:13
  To: All                                               24-Oct-99 19:49:27
Subj: Re: Multiprocessor Support

From: "David T. Johnson" <[e-mail]>

Kim Cheung wrote:
>
> On Sun, 24 Oct 1999 16:03:16 +0200, Bj rn Vermo wrote:
>
> >"David T. Johnson" wrote:
> >
> >> >
> >> A little off-topic but what is the advantage of dual P300's over a
> >> single PIII 600 Mhz or Athlon 700 Mhz?
> >
> >There is no advantage. SMP is useful when the fastest processor in the
world is not fast enough, or when many slower processors plus the
> >added cost of an SMP board plus the cost of the SMP software come cheaper
than the fastest processor.
>
> I disagree.   Any heavily threaded program benefits tremendously from SMP -
> even with dual processor.   On the 325 that I have, you can see the obvious
> effect.

So are you saying that two 300's are better than one 300 or are you
saying that two 300's are better than one Athlon 700?



>
> The problem with doing it under other non-thread centric OS is that they use
> it for loosely coupled multi-processing and for that you don't get as much
> benefit from SMP.

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From: [e-mail]                                   24-Oct-99 16:34:12
  To: All                                               24-Oct-99 19:49:27
Subj: Re: Multiprocessor Support

From: [e-mail] (Harry Travis)

In <SKfw30zmCGmZ-pn2-gdt11vxHenvR@localhost>, on 10/24/99
   at 08:21 PM, doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net (Doug Bissett) said:

>On Sat, 23 Oct 1999 15:31:51, "David T. Johnson"
><[e-mail]> wrote:

>> Richard Hanson wrote:
>> >
>> > Quick question: Does OS/2 Warp v.4 support dual processors? I was
thinking of installing it on a Tyan Tomcat 4.02 with dual P300's.
>> >
>> A little off-topic but what is the advantage of dual P300's over a
>> single PIII 600 Mhz or Athlon 700 Mhz?

>You know, that is a very difficult question, and there is no real
>answer. It depends on so many variables, that one user might find that
>(s)he gets a real performance boost (over a single processor), and
>another will find performance degradation.

>Way back, in 1968, I worked on an old IBM mainframe (the 2065, for
>those who might remember), which had a multiple processor
>configuration (2). The MP was found to perform anywhere from 2 to 5
>times what a single (identical) processor could do (in a production
>environment). A lot of research was done, to try to figure this out,
>but I think the analysis was faulty, or they never did figure it out,
>because more modern multiprocessor systems performed somewhere less
>than 2 over a single processor. I have no idea how these numbers
>relate to the PC, but I suspect that they are similar. Then there is
>the operating system. Properly designed, and multithreaded, like OS/2,
>it will do much better than something that doesn't have the ability to
>assign work to the processors in such a way that it can keep them
>busy. Then there are the programs running under the OS. If they are
>properly designed, and mutithreaded, so the OS has something to work
>with, they can make a tremendous difference to performance.

>So, yes, two processors can outrun a single (twice as fast) processor,
>but only if the configuration is correct. I suspect that, even with
>other things being optimal, that a single 600 mhz processor will
>outrun dual 300 mhz processors, just because there is less overhead to
>dispatch the job stream.

This PPRO 200 stand-alone user with a dual processor-board would rather
keep the box, add a second processor and VRM (for $120, tops) and send
IBM $150 for SMP OS/2  client, if it were available. than I would buy a
new 450+. Not even close, in terms of indirect set-up time and
data-movement costs.

Said many times, it's an IBM-centric corporate no-brainer:  >$$$ to IBM
<$$$ to Intel or AMD. $000000---->MS. --
-----------------------------------------------------------
[e-mail] (Harry Travis)
DemostiX
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From: [e-mail]                          24-Oct-99 13:21:10
  To: All                                               24-Oct-99 19:49:27
Subj: Re: PMMail 2.1?

From: "Wayne Bickell" <[e-mail]>

On Thu, 21 Oct 1999 10:29:25 -0400 (EDT), OS/2 Fan wrote:

:>Hello all,
:>I downloaded PMMail 2.1 and don't really see much of an improvement
:>over my 2.0 version; as a matter of fact, I can't see the differences
:>at all, other than the complete lack of reference to 2.0 and how
:>whether 2.1 is a free update to 2.0 or not...  It's not free for 1.9x
:>users, but I used a registered 2.0 and 2.1 insisted on ignoring that
:>little detail.  What are people's impressions of 2.1?  Anyone got it
:>to upgrade their 2.0 installation successfully?  Thanks!

Hi,

When I ran the install program it detected my 2.0 install and offered
to overwrite the existing files. No problems at all. Clicking on help/
about shows my registration details.

Cheers

Wayne

******************************************************
Wayne Bickell
Tokyo, Japan
[e-mail]
******************************************************
           Posted with PMINews 2 for OS/2
  Running on OS/2 Warp 4 (UK)  + FixPak 9
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From: [e-mail]                                 24-Oct-99 20:45:21
  To: All                                               24-Oct-99 19:49:27
Subj: Re: Multiprocessor Support

From: [e-mail]

In <[e-mail]>, "David T. Johnson"
<[e-mail]> writes:
>Kim Cheung wrote:
>>
>> On Sun, 24 Oct 1999 16:03:16 +0200, Bj rn Vermo wrote:
>>
>> >"David T. Johnson" wrote:
>> >
>> >> >
>> >> A little off-topic but what is the advantage of dual P300's over a
>> >> single PIII 600 Mhz or Athlon 700 Mhz?
>> >
>> >There is no advantage. SMP is useful when the fastest processor in the
world is not fast enough, or when many slower processors plus the
>> >added cost of an SMP board plus the cost of the SMP software come cheaper
than the fastest processor.
>>
>> I disagree.   Any heavily threaded program benefits tremendously from SMP -
>> even with dual processor.   On the 325 that I have, you can see the obvious
>> effect.
>
>So are you saying that two 300's are better than one 300 or are you
>saying that two 300's are better than one Athlon 700?
>

Define "better" : then maybe someone can answer the question . . .

--
Albert, the Mad Shirt Grinder

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From: [e-mail]                             24-Oct-99 23:20:17
  To: All                                               24-Oct-99 19:49:27
Subj: Re: Now that I have Netscape 4.61

From: [e-mail] (Dave Parsons)

On Sun, 24 Oct 1999 10:05:00, Dale Erwin <[e-mail]> wrote:

>
> I created a new user profile and opened Netscape as the new user.  I tried
to import the
> same 2.02
> address book, and exactly the same thing happened:  nothing.  No complaints,
no nothing,
>

Well I don't know what else to suggest. I have tried it here on another
computer
and it works perfectly.
I know it is not much consolation but I have imported a 2.02 address.htm into
a
new profile, no problem. I have imported a 2.02 address.htm into an existing
4.61 profile. No problems even when some of the addresses were duplicated.
It imported the new ones and did not complain about the duplicates.
It would seem that something did not install correctly when you installed
4.61.
I'm sorry but I can't tell what from here.

You could try to ask Mike Kaply who is currently discussing an address book
problem in comp.os.os2.bugs with Jaime in thread 'NS/2 4.61 Address Book'.

--
Dave

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From: [e-mail]                                     24-Oct-99 22:53:04
  To: All                                               24-Oct-99 19:49:27
Subj: Re: os2 installation troubles

From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Bj=F8rn?= Vermo <[e-mail]>

joseph wrote:

> Here's my scenario:  I found an unopened copy of os2 2.1 at 1/2 price
> books for 19.98.  I also got an unopened copy of warp 3 upgrade for
> 7.98.  Pretty good deal?

Not so sure about the 2.1, but Warp 3 is still a highly useable OS.

> I've never used os2, but it intrigues me.   I
> also have freebsd and linux-mandrake installed.  There is 5500Mb free at
> the beginning of the hd, and when I try to install 2.1, I get an "fdisk
> unsuccessful".

I suppose it is not a SCSI drive. The different generations of ATA standards
have needed different drivers, and the ones on your 2.1install diskettes is
not likely to support newer devices than the ones which existed when it was
made.


> Incidentally, I have to use the warp installation disks
> because the ones that came with 2.1 don't recognize my cdrom, a generic
> ide/atapi.

The install program will only work with the version it was made for.
You can add  the ATAPI driver to the 2.1 install diskettes, but I doubt it
is really worth the bother. If you want to run 2.1as a curiosity, it ismuch
better to do it on a computer of suitable vintage. A 386sx with 12MB RAM and
s 40MB disk works fine, more RAM and two disks works better, and a faster
CPU is nice but not really requred.

The Warp 3 is another matter. It is only just out of service - the last free
update for it from IBM came this fall. The server version is still under
service.

OS/2 is mainly made for professional use, and support for the kind of
hardware used in office systems is good. Version 2.1 did not support ATA
drives over 500MB, and only a few of the cheaper CD-ROM drives of the time.
It had excellent support for SCSI disk drives of at least up to 256GB , and
for SCSI CD-ROM drives. Warp 3 has added some more support for CD-ROM
drives, an updated ST-506/ATA device driver with ATAPI and LBA support (but
it is still necessary to install an upgrade to get support for new, large
drives) and support for TCP/IP.

In your place, I would install Warp 3 first. Make a 200MB or so logical
partition for it in the first 2GB of the drive, and set it installable. I
always prefer to have a separate system partition  which can be reformatted
for a clean new install. Do NOT use "easy install" - it is liable to be the
difficult way. and will not perform well. Format your partition to HPFS.
When you get the minimum system up and running, you should install a current
fixpack. This will bring you up to date with device drivers and support. You
should look at old postings in this newsgroup to find out more about how to
do this, it has all been explained many times.

After you have your Warp 3 up to the current standard, you will be able to
understand more of how to install your 2.1 on new equipment.

> Is os2 still being developed by ibm?  Do they plan to continue
> releases?  Also, and I know this question comes a little early for me,
> where can I get warp 4 and what does it cost?

While some complain about lack of support for their pet feature, IBM are
developing OS/2 all the time, and are guaranteed to continue for at least
two years (since they sell 2-year subscriptions). The newest release was a
new server. On the client side, free upgrades for Warp 4 will end at the end
of this year. From next year, you will only get access to upgrades with a
paid subscription. Fixpacks to fix bugs in the features which exist today
will continue to be free up to the end of service date.

Existing fixes are, of course, still available after the end of service. You
can still download fixes forOS/2 version 1.3, 2.0 and 2.1, but after the
cutoff date, new fixes are no longer made.

Prices for Warp 4 may vary quite a bit, but it is typically more expensive
than Windows 9x but cheaper than NT. You will only need the Warp 4 upgrade
version, of course. It is an easy install, and works on an empty partition.
When you buy Warp 4 from IBM, it comes with a one-year subscription to new
updates from Software Choice.



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From: [e-mail]                            24-Oct-99 15:37:29
  To: All                                               24-Oct-99 19:49:27
Subj: Re: How do you expand a partition?

From: Chuck McKinnis <[e-mail]>

The text only version (PQMAGICT) shipped with PM OS/2 3.0 is a DOS
program.

Tarquelne wrote:
>
> >I have never had a problem with Partition Magic 3.0 (latest fix level)
> >when changing and moving partitions.  However, the only safe way to run
> >it is from a booted DOS diskette.
>
> A booted _DOS_ disk?  Not the OS/2 version of the text-only?
>
>                                             Tarquelne
>                                        <[e-mail]>
>         I know how God can make a rock so big He can't move it.
>                                   ************************
> Use the address above to reply - not the anti-spam "Reply-to" address
> ___________________________________________________________
> "The grasshopper is the only animal I'm afraid of.
>  I suppose it's a sexual complex."--Salvador Dali.

--
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Senior Systems Engineer
Denver Solutions Group, Inc.
IBM Business Partner
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From: [e-mail]                      24-Oct-99 22:14:17
  To: All                                               24-Oct-99 21:21:06
Subj: Re: os2 installation troubles

From: [e-mail] (Jim Backus)

On Sun, 24 Oct 1999 06:54:29, joseph <[e-mail]> wrote:

> Here's my scenario:  I found an unopened copy of os2 2.1 at 1/2 price
> books for 19.98.  I also got an unopened copy of warp 3 upgrade for
> 7.98.  Pretty good deal?  I've never used os2, but it intrigues me.

os/2 2.1 is now very old.  It is not supported any longer and there
has been no effort to make it y2k compliant.  It had a reputation with
some as being the most stable version but unless you want to put it on
an old machine with a small HD (see further details later) it's
probably not worth the effort.

> also have freebsd and linux-mandrake installed.  There is 5500Mb free at
> the beginning of the hd, and when I try to install 2.1, I get an "fdisk
> unsuccessful".

When Warp 3 was released HDs bigger than 1 or 2 GB did not exist - at
least not for practical purposes.  The driver fails to recognise the
disk correctly.  You need to get a file called (IIRC) IBMDASD.ZIP.
start looking at ftp://ftp.software.ibm.com and run down the
directories for os/2 looking for device drivers (DD) or fixes.

> Is os2 still being developed by ibm?  Do they plan to continue
> releases?  Also, and I know this question comes a little early for me,
> where can I get warp 4 and what does it cost?

IBM still supports OS/2 Warp 3 and Warp 4.  Warp 4 is still made
although it may be difficult to find in this wintel dominated world.
IIRC IBM has stated that it will go on supporting OS/2 until at least
2004.


Jim Backus  OS/2 user because it's better
bona fide replies to jimb(at)jita(dot)demon(dot)co(dot)uk

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From: [e-mail]                               24-Oct-99 17:29:10
  To: All                                               24-Oct-99 21:21:06
Subj: Re: Interesting TrueType tid-bit...

From: Darrell Spice <[e-mail]>

Hmm, I justed check this out on a font in 98 on my Thinkpad.
Interesting indeed! :-)

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Original Message <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

On 10-24-99, 7:13:53 PM, [e-mail] wrote regarding
Interesting TrueType tid-bit...:


> Hmmmm... Hex-edit (or just open in e.exe) a TrueType Font file...

> Anyone else see some interesting text in there? :)

> I've checked some TTF files on other people's computers, and it's the
> same thing. Fonts that OS/2 doesn't even know I have, also have this.

> What the heck is up with that??

> --
> -Steven Hunter               *OS/2 Warp 4 * |
> [e-mail] *AMD K6-2 400* |


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From: [e-mail]                               25-Oct-99 00:08:03
  To: All                                               25-Oct-99 03:26:08
Subj: Re: Instructions: How To Build An OS/2 Computer

From: [e-mail]

In article <zjnyfuryceepbz.fk3zk02.pminews@news-server>,
  "Matt Walsh" <[e-mail]> wrote:
> I got my last one from Indelible Blue who let me configure it and did
the Warp
> install perfectly for me.  For a fair price.

Thanks Matt.  My machine also came from Indelible Blue via a
previous owner who paid $4,000 for it at the time.  Today I
see bigger machines at such places as Office Depot, Circuit
City, and Sears for prices as low as $1,000.

And most importantly many are missing the point.  I don't
want to call a hardware manufacturer and pay them to put
together a machine that I could build for probably 1/4 the
cost they will charge me - whether it be Dell or IB.  I
would like the ability to go to a web site and follow a set
of step-by-step instructions for building my own top-notch
OS/2 machine.  From start to finish.  What parts to buy,
where to find them, how to install them followed by the
OS/2 installation with fixpaks, upgrades, etc., and do it
myself.  As a novice I'd quickly learn and understand why
and what the differences are between a SCSI drive and an
IDE drive, why my OS/2 system won't accept a modem quietly
marked "For Microsoft operating platforms only", how to
make sure all 96 megs of ram are in use, etc.

Jeff


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From: [e-mail]                      25-Oct-99 00:13:07
  To: All                                               25-Oct-99 03:26:08
Subj: Re: Interesting TrueType tid-bit...

From: [e-mail]

In article <[e-mail]>,
  [e-mail] (Jerry McBride) wrote:

> >Hmmmm... Hex-edit (or just open in e.exe) a TrueType Font file...
>
> Point one (font file) out and I'll have a look...

Anyone'll do. Look in your  \os2\mdos\winos2\system directory. Or if
you've got Win9x installed, look in \windows\fonts\.

--
-Steven Hunter               *OS/2 Warp 4 * |
[e-mail] *AMD K6-2 400* |


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From: [e-mail]                                 24-Oct-99 19:24:18
  To: All                                               25-Oct-99 03:26:08
Subj: Re: How do you expand a partition?

From: [e-mail] (Richard Steiner)

Here in comp.os.os2.misc, [e-mail] spake unto us, saying:

>[e-mail] (Richard Steiner) said:
>
>>I use Partition Magic for that sort of size adjustment
>
>What version do you have?

I still use Partition Magic v2.03.221 because I sometimes do stuff in
OS/2 as well as DOS (and v2.x has a nice GUI executable for OS/2).

I don't use FAT32 here at all, so I've not needed to upgrade.

--
   -Rich Steiner  >>>--->  [e-mail]  >>>---> Bloomington, MN
     OS/2 + Linux + BeOS + FreeBSD + Solaris + WinNT4 + Win95 + DOS
      + VMWare + Fusion + vMac + Executor = PC Hobbyist Heaven! :-)
                 Do unto others BEFORE they do unto you!

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From: [e-mail]                                 24-Oct-99 19:32:14
  To: All                                               25-Oct-99 03:26:08
Subj: Re: Modems (again?)

From: [e-mail] (Richard Steiner)

Here in comp.os.os2.misc, [e-mail] (Jeffery Swagger)
spake unto us, saying:

>In <3810963c$1$obot$[e-mail]>, Bob Germer
><[e-mail]> writes:
>
>>Bad answer. The answer should be maybe. Not all external modems are true
>>modems. Some external modems are USB, not serial port.
>
>True.  However, even when you have a true modem that works with OS/2,
>you'll find that the flash upgrade program is Winblows only.

FWIW, USR Couriers have text-based flash software which runs in DOS,
and which I believe runs just fine in a VDM.

They aren't inexpensive, however.

--
   -Rich Steiner  >>>--->  [e-mail]  >>>---> Bloomington, MN
     OS/2 + Linux + BeOS + FreeBSD + Solaris + WinNT4 + Win95 + DOS
      + VMWare + Fusion + vMac + Executor = PC Hobbyist Heaven! :-)
                   Hi!  I'm a tagline virus!  Copy me!

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From: [e-mail]                                 24-Oct-99 19:45:10
  To: All                                               25-Oct-99 03:26:08
Subj: Re: os2 installation troubles

From: [e-mail] (Richard Steiner)

Here in comp.os.os2.misc, doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net (Doug Bissett)
spake unto us, saying:

>On Sun, 24 Oct 1999 06:54:29, joseph <[e-mail]> wrote:
>
>> Here's my scenario:  I found an unopened copy of os2 2.1 at 1/2 price
>> books for 19.98.  I also got an unopened copy of warp 3 upgrade for
>> 7.98.  Pretty good deal?
>
>No, and yes... OS/2 2.1, is obsolete, and cannot be upgraded to be Y2K
>compliant. Warp3 is useful. You should be able to install it, without
>having the older version installed.

Keep in mind that the upgrade version of Warp 3 had a sniffer, meaning
at least one file from OS/2 2.1 might be required.

A DejaNews search should reveal the name of the file (and the correct
subdirectory it should be placed in) to satisfy the sniffer program.

--
   -Rich Steiner  >>>--->  [e-mail]  >>>---> Bloomington, MN
     OS/2 + Linux + BeOS + FreeBSD + Solaris + WinNT4 + Win95 + DOS
      + VMWare + Fusion + vMac + Executor = PC Hobbyist Heaven! :-)
 Everyone thinks I'm psychotic except for my friends deep inside the Earth.

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From: [e-mail]                                 24-Oct-99 19:47:24
  To: All                                               25-Oct-99 03:26:08
Subj: Re: Warp 4, Fixpak 12 / Service Halts

From: [e-mail] (Richard Steiner)

Here in comp.os.os2.misc, [e-mail] spake unto us, saying:

>It seems to get much use out of OS/2, you have to install Fixpaks.

It really depends on the hardware you have, I think.  I'm using Warp 4
on two systems here, and I've not bothered to install any of the FixPaks
yet, but my systems are both SCSI systems.

I really should upgrade before the end of the year.  ;-)

--
   -Rich Steiner  >>>--->  [e-mail]  >>>---> Bloomington, MN
     OS/2 + Linux + BeOS + FreeBSD + Solaris + WinNT4 + Win95 + DOS
      + VMWare + Fusion + vMac + Executor = PC Hobbyist Heaven! :-)
                     I'm a Lumberjack and I'm OK!

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From: [e-mail]                                 24-Oct-99 19:50:02
  To: All                                               25-Oct-99 03:26:08
Subj: Re: what brand and model PC today to buy for OS/2 ?

From: [e-mail] (Richard Steiner)

Here in comp.os.os2.misc, =?iso-8859-1?Q?Bj=F8rn?= Vermo <[e-mail]>
spake unto us, saying:

>OK - IBM (real thing, not the Aptiva) are reliable beyond the obsolescence
>point. The IBM PC-xxx comes in models with OS/2, while the servers come in
>versions with no OS (or even with no disk installed). The Intellistation
>series does not support OS/2 well.

Huh.  This must have seriously changed in the past few years.

One of the boxes I use Warp 4 on here is an IBM IntelliStation Z Pro
(the older Z Pro model 6899 based on the PPro/200 processor), and it
has been formally certified by IBM to run with both Warp 3 and Warp 4.

In my experience, that IntelliStation model runs Warp 4 flawlessly.

--
   -Rich Steiner  >>>--->  [e-mail]  >>>---> Bloomington, MN
     OS/2 + Linux + BeOS + FreeBSD + Solaris + WinNT4 + Win95 + DOS
      + VMWare + Fusion + vMac + Executor = PC Hobbyist Heaven! :-)
          Why is common sense is the least common of all senses?

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From: [e-mail]                              25-Oct-99 01:21:14
  To: All                                               25-Oct-99 03:26:08
Subj: Re: Floppies/Utilities again

From: James Moe <[e-mail]>


[e-mail] wrote:
>
> Cleaning the heads on my floppy drive seems to have helped greatly in making
> utility disks.  However.
>
> When I try to run the utilities, I get only to disk 2, the third disk.  At
that
> point I get an error I have never heard of before:
>
>  OS/2 is unable to operate your hard disk or diskette drive.  The system has
> stopped...
>
> [ ... ]

    What fixpak level have you applied? If it's fp10 (and maybe fp9),
the bootdisk utility is broken. Your best bet is to find a well-praised
program called BOOTOS2 (check on Hobbes). I have heard that the problem
has been fixed in either fp11 or fp12. (I hae been using disks made from
about fp6 or fp8 since I haven't managed to create any functioning ones
using fp10.)

    Basically the error message occurs at a time when the bootup has
reached a point where it is ready to use the BASEDEV drivers. Up to that
point it has been accessing the disks using very limited, primitive
methods (which is why there is a 1024 cylinder limit on bootstrap
locations).
    I think that the required BASEDEV for your boot drive is missing.
However, I am onot sure about that part.


--

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From: [e-mail]                              25-Oct-99 01:28:23
  To: All                                               25-Oct-99 03:26:08
Subj: Re: Floppy problems

From: James Moe <[e-mail]>


Doug Bissett wrote:
>
> [ ... ]
>
> Having used PCs, since 1981, and having worked in the service end of
> the computer business (not, specifically with PCs, but I did get
> involved with the tougher problems sometimes), I will make two
> statements about cleaning diskette drives.
> 1) DON'T DO IT.
> 2) If you do clean one, clean it often, since it will get dirty.
>
    I have found that "it depends." On most of my computers I have never
cleaned the floppy drive. In fact, it is only one computer that seems to
have the problem, now that I think on  it. I have never cleaned a drive
that did not show some kind of problem all other methods have failed to
correct. Most have never been cleaned, come being close to 10 years old.
    The particular system has some serious cooling fans in it. I think
the fairly high rate of air flow (hence, dust) builds up on the floppy
heads, among other places. Blowing out the drive creates a large cloud;
the drive always works well after the cleaning disk.


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From: james.arnold@!!!usa.net                           25-Oct-99 01:35:10
  To: All                                               25-Oct-99 03:26:08
Subj: Re: os2 installation troubles

From: james.arnold@!!!usa.net

In <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Richard Steiner) writes:
>Here in comp.os.os2.misc, doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net (Doug Bissett)
>spake unto us, saying:
>
>>On Sun, 24 Oct 1999 06:54:29, joseph <[e-mail]> wrote:
>>
>>> Here's my scenario:  I found an unopened copy of os2 2.1 at 1/2 price
>>> books for 19.98.  I also got an unopened copy of warp 3 upgrade for
>>> 7.98.  Pretty good deal?
>>
>>No, and yes... OS/2 2.1, is obsolete, and cannot be upgraded to be Y2K
>>compliant. Warp3 is useful. You should be able to install it, without
>>having the older version installed.
>
>Keep in mind that the upgrade version of Warp 3 had a sniffer, meaning
>at least one file from OS/2 2.1 might be required.
>
>A DejaNews search should reveal the name of the file (and the correct
>subdirectory it should be placed in) to satisfy the sniffer program.

        To save you the trouble of searching, the file you need from v2.1
is syslevel.os2.

        Create an x:\os2\install directory, where x is the drive you want
to install to and copy the v2.1 syslevel file there. You will now be ready
to install Warp v3.

        Jim

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From: [e-mail]                               25-Oct-99 02:02:24
  To: All                                               25-Oct-99 03:26:08
Subj: Re: Networking 2 home computers...

From: Gary Dale <[e-mail]>

If you are running at 10M bps then you can probably use coaxial ethernet
cable. Almost all 10M cards have both coax and twisted pair connectors. If
you are wiring up a home or office, then go with Cat 5 twisted pair.
Otherwise, a simple coax network avoids the need for a hub. However, it is
worth noting that 10M hubs are dirt cheap these days, and even 100M hubs
can be reasonable.

devlin wrote:

> Hub not needed for networking two computers if you use a 4 wire
> ethernet cable.
>
> I am running my two computer network with one NIC card in each and one
> 4 wire eithernet cable and it works fantastic!
>
> Hub only needed if you are going to be connecting more than two.
>
> On Tue, 24 Aug 1999 00:06:10 -0700, Dane <localhost@127.0.0.1> wrote:
>
> >Philip Wright wrote:
> >>
> >> A 3COM OfficeConnect 4 port hub is dirt cheap (~$40).
> >> Rather than fool with crossover cables I would recommend
> >> a hub for simplicity and expandability.
> >>
> >> Philip Wright
> >
> >I'll take a $7 Cat 5 crossover cable anyday of the week
> >over a $40 hub. Add to it a pair of Pro 100 Ethernet
> >cards and you have a very fast network.
> >
> >--
> >Anti-Spamming measures. To reply to me, remove nospam.
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From: Wm D [e-mail]                  25-Oct-99 02:29:08
  To: All                                               25-Oct-99 03:26:09
Subj: Re: Now that I have Netscape 4.61

From: Wm D [e-mail] ()

In article <  Ditto.  >, Dale Erwin wrote:
    [  snip  ]
>Dave Parsons wrote:
    [  snip  ]
>Thanks for the info, Dave.  However, I can't seem to get it to work.  After
doing
>what you say,
>the 2.02 addresses are still not available.
>--
>Dale Erwin
>Dallas, Texas

May be corrupt.  I had a similar?? problem weeks ago with my bookmarks,
and lost a sizeable chunk.  The devil to re-construct.  Just two days ago,
cleaning out my disk, I found "bookmark.htm" in dir "TCPIP\TMP".  Hunh??
Well, It was the missing piece, perfect as near as I could tell!

Now _that's_ *bizarre* !!

With pre-loss backups, I tried   " copy 'one'+'two' 'three' " to recover.  No
dice.  Navigator has never allowed such tricks, even with Mail 'folders'.  It
knows the re-joined file isn't its own thing, despite looking okay in a hex
editor.  I don't know why.

I tried Navigator's 'Import' thing in the Bookmark folder.  To add the newly
discovered (fragment) file to the existing one.  It worked!

For what it's all worth.  ;->


WD "Bill" Loughman      "The problem with the gene pool: there is no lifeguard."
Berkeley, California  USA
[e-mail]

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From: [e-mail]                                24-Oct-99 23:43:02
  To: All                                               25-Oct-99 03:26:09
Subj: Re: Floppies/Utilities again

From: [e-mail]

[e-mail] (Will Honea) said:

>This sounds like what I get when I have a bad floppy.  Try making new
install
>disks on new, goo floppies.  You may need to do a bit more  cleaning as well.

>Last time I blew mine clean it looked like a dust  storm.

Thanks, but I blew this one out very well when I put it in Friday, and I've
run
the cleaner on it 3 times, and These are brand new Varbatim 2HD 1.44mb disks.

Jim L
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From: [e-mail]                                24-Oct-99 23:45:09
  To: All                                               25-Oct-99 03:26:09
Subj: Re: Floppies/Utilities again

From: [e-mail]

James Moe <[e-mail]> said:

>>  OS/2 is unable to operate your hard disk or diskette drive.  The system
has
>> stopped...

>What fixpak level have you applied? If it's fp10 (and maybe fp9), the
>bootdisk utility is broken.

I'm running FP 12 and have applied the current idedasd.zip.

 Your best bet is to find a well-praised program
>called BOOTOS2 (check on Hobbes). I have heard that the problem has been
fixed

I have some BOOTOS2 disks that do load.  But I'm trying to get the normal
utility disks to make and work.

>    I think that the required BASEDEV for your boot drive is missing.
However,
>I am onot sure about that part.

Well, that may be.  I've been fooling with the problem and it has started
putting up an error before it says it can't operate the drive.  That is:
AIC7870.ADD will not load.  I can guess that that has something to do with the
"can't operate" error, but it is only guessing.

I copied a new copy of aic7870 onto the floppy thinking it might be corrupted.

(I've also gone through the whole utility making process at least 7 times
today.
The new copy didn't help.  I removed aic7870 from the config file, but it
still
tried to load it.

The crazy thing is, that is a SCSI driver and I have nothing SCSI on the
computer.  During the utility making operation I removed both the aic7870.add
and the aic7870.snp, but the fool thing copied them (and several other snp
files
I had deleted during the process back onto the floppy again.

I don't have a clue what's going on.

Jim L
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From: [e-mail]               24-Oct-99 23:20:14
  To: All                                               25-Oct-99 07:11:25
Subj: Re: Multiprocessor Support

From: "Kim Cheung" <[e-mail]>

On Sun, 24 Oct 1999 13:32:26 -0400, David T. Johnson wrote:

>Kim Cheung wrote:
>>
>> On Sun, 24 Oct 1999 16:03:16 +0200, Bj rn Vermo wrote:
>>
>> >"David T. Johnson" wrote:
>> >
>> >> >
>> >> A little off-topic but what is the advantage of dual P300's over a
>> >> single PIII 600 Mhz or Athlon 700 Mhz?
>> >
>> >There is no advantage. SMP is useful when the fastest processor in the
world is not fast enough, or when many slower processors plus the
>> >added cost of an SMP board plus the cost of the SMP software come cheaper
than the fastest processor.
>>
>> I disagree.   Any heavily threaded program benefits tremendously from SMP -
>> even with dual processor.   On the 325 that I have, you can see the obvious
>> effect.
>
>So are you saying that two 300's are better than one 300 or are you
>saying that two 300's are better than one Athlon 700?
>
>
>
>>
>> The problem with doing it under other non-thread centric OS is that they
use
>> it for loosely coupled multi-processing and for that you don't get as much
>> benefit from SMP.

Yes and no.   It depends on what you're doing.   In general, any tightly
coupled tasks will not benefit from multi-processors.   A loosely-coupled
tasks benefits tremendously from multiple processors to the point where yes,
2 300s can out perform a single 700.   Bear in mind while the CPU is in wait
state, a 700 whatever isn't going to be doing much.   Take memory refresh for
instance.   A 700 spends lots of it's CPU cycle in memory refresh.   You will
find one of the 2 300s taking care of the memory refresh and the other CPU is
completely free to pay attention to the user - and you will notice it
immediately: the WPS response becomes much faster.

Take network support, for instance, Mike Persell at IBM told me he played
around with things and found Aurora runs optimal at 8 CPUs.    Beyond that,
he said he didn't see that much improvement.

If you were to do a simulation of, let say, a fish swimming around, that
would be a task that would benefit from multiple CPUs and I would expect 2
300s outperform a 700.   If, on the other hand, you're doing simulation of an
electric power system, even 100 300s ain't going to help you much.


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From: [e-mail]                             25-Oct-99 20:45:08
  To: [e-mail]                                    25-Oct-99 07:11:25
Subj: Re: cincyteamos2?

To: Dominique Pivard <[e-mail]>
From: Craig Benbow <[e-mail]>

Just what we were looking for Dominique.
Thanks for the pointer.

Craig

Dominique Pivard wrote:

> On Sat, 23 Oct 1999 14:57:45, [e-mail] (Esther Schindler)
> wrote:
> >
> > (I've been involved with user groups since 1986. This happens to user
> > groups all the time, and shouldn't be construed as an OS/2 issue. It
> > is, however, a sad thing, as the Cincy group used to do a *great* Web
> > site.)
>
> Another great site heavily inspired from the old Cincy Team OS/2 site
> is:
>
> http://www.warpupdates.de/
>
> It's a one-man show but is constantly updated and full of useful
> information.

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From: [e-mail]                                       25-Oct-99 10:04:13
  To: All                                               25-Oct-99 07:11:25
Subj: Re: java icq & ibm lava 1.1.8

From: "G. van der Veer" <[e-mail]>


"Rodney D. Myers" skrev:

> is anyone experiencing trouble getting icq (java) to run with ibm java
1.1.8?
>
> it was working before I upgraded to 1.1.8. now I don't get anything.

if you start the Java program in a command prompt, do you get a register dump
or
something?
I have no problems at all.  The only application that works worse is HotJava,
which crashes every ten minutes.

kind regards,

--
Berry van der Veer

+------------------------------------------+
   http://www.torget.se/users/g/gvdveer
   http://www.dsv.nl/~gvdveer
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From: [e-mail]                                  25-Oct-99 08:12:27
  To: All                                               25-Oct-99 10:31:28
Subj: Re: I can no longer live with OS/2

From: [e-mail]

In article <[e-mail]>,
  Remove silverware to reply wrote:
> [e-mail] [Deja.com - Before you buy.] -> comp.os.os2.misc:
>
> ╗ - I agree 100% with "skrise" in one of his posts: "isn't the promise
of
> ╗ OS/2 to protect the system even from ill-behaved / poorly programmed
> ╗ apps?". Yes, it is, of course! But there are ways for the programmer
to
> ╗ get around it: must be, because otherwise you couldn't write
hardware
> ╗ drivers, for example. But also for common applications there are
>
> Nope.
>
> Applications (like Navigator and Communicator) runs in protected user
mode.
>
> Hardware drivers (on OS/2, NT4, BeOS and most UNICES *1) runs in
kernel mode.
>

You are right with this distinction, of course, BUT:

- "protected user mode" does inhibit things like e.g.

int *variable = (int*)0;
*variable = 123;

i.e. writing data into invalid memory addresses.

- it does NOT inhibit constructs like

DosEnterCritSection() // or something like that
while(1) {}

If you put something like that into the exit code of your application
you can reproduce the "freezing" effect of some Netscape versions on
certain systems! (I didn't check right now if it would do the trick even
without being in the exit code, just because of the "critical section" -
I am developing here on a NT machine, just for earning my living...)

The point is: NORMALLY a user program cannot do much harm to the system,
but there ARE a few possibilities anyway. Prudent programmers will stay
in the "safe playground" because they are always aware of the fact that
they CAN make errors. Others might think they cannot and go into
"dangerous areas" more than necessary - and that's exactly what I think
some Netscape versions are (or were ??!) suffering from...

...and if it was really impossible to kill a system just with a "normal
application": How else could the Netscape programmers have done the
trick? It looks like they are not using a device driver just for that
purpose  ;-))

Like another poster (Kim Cheung) suggested I also hope they really
changed certain things fundamentally in the Communicator design! Until
now I do not have any reason to believe that things are still as bad as
they have been, just no crashes or freezes yet...

Greetings,
Cornelis

[snipped the rest...]


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From: [e-mail]                                    25-Oct-99 08:37:28
  To: All                                               25-Oct-99 10:31:28
Subj: Re: How do you expand a partition?

From: [e-mail] (Bob Eager)

On Sun, 24 Oct 1999 21:37:59, Chuck McKinnis <[e-mail]>
wrote:

> The text only version (PQMAGICT) shipped with PM OS/2 3.0 is a DOS
> program.

(one of....) There is also the OS/2 text mode version; PMAGICOT I
think.

--
Bob Eager
rde at tavi.co.uk
PC Server 325; PS/2s 8595*3, 9595*3 (2*P60 + P90), 8535, 8570, 9556*2,
8580*6,
8557*2, 8550, 9577, 8530, P70, PC/AT..

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From: [e-mail]                                    25-Oct-99 08:38:01
  To: All                                               25-Oct-99 10:31:28
Subj: Re: os2 installation troubles

From: [e-mail] (Bob Eager)

On Mon, 25 Oct 1999 01:35:21, james.arnold@!!!usa.net wrote:

>         To save you the trouble of searching, the file you need from v2.1
> is syslevel.os2.
>
>         Create an x:\os2\install directory, where x is the drive you want
> to install to and copy the v2.1 syslevel file there. You will now be ready
> to install Warp v3.
In fact, I'm pretty sure you can use the SYSLEVEL.OS2 off the V3
install disks!

--
Bob Eager
rde at tavi.co.uk
PC Server 325; PS/2s 8595*3, 9595*3 (2*P60 + P90), 8535, 8570, 9556*2,
8580*6,
8557*2, 8550, 9577, 8530, P70, PC/AT..

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From: [e-mail]                                   25-Oct-99 07:40:11
  To: All                                               25-Oct-99 10:31:28
Subj: Re: Spamming the Spammers!

From: Nick Knight <[e-mail]>

In <380c23f5$1$avgroveq$[e-mail]>, on 10/19/99
   at 03:28 AM, [e-mail] (Barry Mann) said:

>Every so often I'll get a message that will cause trouble. There is a
>stray character somewhere that bugs my mail client and the message is not
>completely read because the mail client stalls on the bad character. Next
>time messages are fetched we repeat the above. I can also imagine that a
>bad character in the message file name will cause trouble.

If this is MR/2 you're talking about (I think it's a safe guess :), then
you should know that in v1.61 I added some code that, AFAICT, eliminates
this problem.  Basically, I found some Netscape-originating emails with
embedded NULL characters, which caused much trouble when using C++-based
string calls.  These are now handled.

I see you're using v1.60 now.  v1.62 is available on the MR/2 ICE web
page:

    http://nick.secant.com/mr2ice.htm

This had a few minor bug fixes above-and-beyond what you're using now,
including a little patch to accomodate a new FP10/11 problem.

Later versions are beta's, still, but there are some HUGE performance
enhancements in the current versions.

Nick
--
-----------------------------------------------------------
Nick Knight  <[e-mail]>       http://nick.secant.com
Senior Software Engineer
Secant Technologies, Inc.             http://www.secant.com
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From: [e-mail]                        25-Oct-99 06:05:15
  To: All                                               25-Oct-99 10:31:28
Subj: Fdisk and 3rd hard drive

From: David Gillespie <[e-mail]>

<!doctype html public "-//w3c//dtd html 4.0 transitional//en">
<html>
I recently installed a third hard drive, a WD 13gig on a Warp 4 system.
I partitioned it and formatted the partitions HPFS.  The problem is,
I want to add one of the partitions to the bootmanager menu but Fdisk will
not let me.  The only options that show up when I run fdisk is:
<br>delete partition and set startup value when I select any partition
on that drive.  I have even tried using the install disks but still
no go.  Will this not work???  Any help is appreciated.
<p>David Gillespie</html>


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From: [e-mail]                                   25-Oct-99 21:15:12
  To: All                                               25-Oct-99 10:31:28
Subj: Re: Instructions: How To Build An OS/2 Computer

From: [e-mail] (Don Hills)

In article <7v0715$3d9$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] wrote:
>And most importantly many are missing the point.  I don't
>want to call a hardware manufacturer and pay them to put
>together a machine that I could build for probably 1/4 the
>cost they will charge me - whether it be Dell or IB.  I
>would like the ability to go to a web site and follow a set
>of step-by-step instructions for building my own top-notch
>OS/2 machine.  From start to finish. ...

Jeff, you're maybe missing the point yourself. You're a student, you
should know how much it costs to learn things. Hardware manufacturers
have to learn what parts work well together and which are best for a
given job. They then add the cost of doing this to the price of their
systems. It's called R & D...

So sure, someone could build a Web site such as you described. But the
site builder would first have to spend a lot of time and effort (=money)
collecting and collating information, and buying and testing hardware.
In other words, R & D. You can bet it wouldn't be a free access site.

So if you want to build your own system cheap, you need to provide your
own time and effort. You need to comb the newsgroups and Dejanews and
talk to other users. You need to collate the info and after a while a
picture will start to emerge- what parts people swear by, and what parts
people swear at. Then you buy the parts and a "Build your own PC" book
(another research project to find the most recommended book) and go to
it.

--
Don Hills    (dmhills at attglobaldotnet)     Wellington, New Zealand

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From: [e-mail]                         25-Oct-99 13:53:29
  To: All                                               25-Oct-99 14:48:15
Subj: Warp Server not able to get available memory

From: [e-mail]

We have a NetFinity 3000 with 528 MB memory running Warp Server 4.0 and
DB2 Universal Database 5.2, Fixpack 11.  We've been unable to get DB2
to use large amounts of this memory for bufferpools.  If I request more
than a trivial amount of memory, DB2 doesn't get the memory, and drops
back to very low bufferpool sizes (We determined this by using a memory
monitoring tool and looking at db2diag.log).

When we installed Warp 4.0 workstation on the same PC with the same
database version, the problem went away and it all worked fine.

Is there a known problem with Warp Server making large (e.g., > 64 MB)
of memory available to programs, such as DB2?


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From: [e-mail]                             25-Oct-99 01:57:09
  To: All                                               25-Oct-99 14:48:15
Subj: Re: WANTED:  Word Perfect for OS/2

From: [e-mail]  (Joe Kovacs)

In <%awP3.152$[e-mail]>,
[e-mail] (Rod Smith) writes:
>In article <B9rP3.736$[e-mail]>,
>    [e-mail]  (Steve Myers) writes:
>> IMO, the first release was bad.  Really bad.  The WP 5.2a release was much
>> better.
>
>Agreed.  I'd go further, though, and say that the original 5.2 release was
>*SO* bad that the 5.2a release was merely awful, rather than supremely
>awful.  5.2a would routinely crash on me, often taking OS/2 with it.  At
>the time, OS/2 newsgroups were rife with reports of WP's instability.
>More recently, there seem to be proportionally more people reporting WP
>5.2a was reasonably stable, but I'm not among them.  I ended up getting
>DeScribe, which was wonderful.  I wrote my dissertation with DeScribe, and
>the thought of doing so with WP 5.2a for OS/2 fills me with horror.

WordPerfect 5.2 (not 5.2a) has never crashed or hung here.  I
wrote hundreds of letter with it, well, one hundreds of them.

Reports of WordPerfect/2 instability smell of the same odour
as the incessant reports of OS/2's demise.


Joe Kovacs
Guelph Ontario Canada


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From: [e-mail]                             25-Oct-99 02:22:20
  To: All                                               25-Oct-99 14:48:15
Subj: Re: what brand and model PC today to buy for OS/2 ?

From: [e-mail]  (Joe Kovacs)

In <7ur5ur$ego$[e-mail]>, Zeus Paleologos
<[e-mail]> writes:
>While I am appreciative of the suggestions made so far via post and
>email, I would like to re-emphasize several of my non-negotiable
>purchase preconditions:
>
>- brand name equipment and, I might add, of proven technology
>    and reliability.  Indeed, reliability might be my number 1
>    requirement.
>- factory-assembled.  I have been the route of building your
>    own PC several times.  I will not do it again.
>- locally-available (not mail-order).  Proximinity to dealer is
>   important when handling problems for me.  No DELLs.

With this lineup of requirements, you're looking for service
and not so much a machine.  That is, you want to run 24/7
without worrying about it.

That's what IBM sells. So carefully consider a real IBM
machine, as others have said, and the next step up is that
machine with a service contract.  Although I don't know that
you'd want that, have a look. They're not that expensive.

To buy an IBM machine, look in the Yellow Pages under
Computers for an IBM Business Partner, the IBM 800 number, or
IBM Home Computing Centres.

>1 - Regarding OS/2, does it matter whether I choose a PC model with
>    a Celeron, Pentium II or Pentium III processor ?

>4 - Should I plan on installing Warp 4 on whatever I get or will
>    Warp 3 still be a possibility ?

With this lineup of CPUs, you'd definitely install Warp 4.  I
have in mind that OS/2 v2 is for 386s, Warp 3 is for 486s and
Warp 4 is for optimized for 586+.  They match the caches and
things.


Joe Kovacs
Guelph Ontario Canada


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From: [e-mail]...               25-Oct-99 13:34:01
  To: All                                               25-Oct-99 14:48:15
Subj: Re: WANTED:  Word Perfect for OS/2

Message sender: [e-mail]

From: [e-mail] (Rod Smith)

[Posted and mailed]

In article <c1.2b8.2Sg37f$[e-mail]>,
    [e-mail]  (Joe Kovacs) writes:
> In <%awP3.152$[e-mail]>,
[e-mail] (Rod Smith) writes:
>>In article <B9rP3.736$[e-mail]>,
>>    [e-mail]  (Steve Myers) writes:
>>> IMO, the first release was bad.  Really bad.  The WP 5.2a release was much
>>> better.
>>
>>Agreed.  I'd go further, though, and say that the original 5.2 release was
>>*SO* bad that the 5.2a release was merely awful, rather than supremely
>>awful.  5.2a would routinely crash on me, often taking OS/2 with it.  At
>>the time, OS/2 newsgroups were rife with reports of WP's instability.
>>More recently, there seem to be proportionally more people reporting WP
>>5.2a was reasonably stable, but I'm not among them.  I ended up getting
>>DeScribe, which was wonderful.  I wrote my dissertation with DeScribe, and
>>the thought of doing so with WP 5.2a for OS/2 fills me with horror.
>
> WordPerfect 5.2 (not 5.2a) has never crashed or hung here.  I
> wrote hundreds of letter with it, well, one hundreds of them.
>
> Reports of WordPerfect/2 instability smell of the same odour
> as the incessant reports of OS/2's demise.

Don't assume that because somebody's experience is different from yours
that the person is spreading FUD or is an agent of the Evil Empire.  I
certainly can't prove to you that WP 5.2 was buggy on my system when I
used it.  I didn't videotape myself hyperventilating as I lost work to
the thing crashing.  I don't even have the same computer any more.  I can
only report my experiences, which were very real, and which I'm reporting
truthfully.  I suppose if you could find a news archive dating back that
far you could check the original Usenet reports on WP 5.2 for OS/2, which
I distinctly recall having a very negative tone overall, although of
course there was variation.

Perhaps the difference between our experiences is that you say you wrote
letters, which are typically fairly short.  I was writing a dissertation
proposal (among other things), which was longer.  In addition to length,
we may have been using different WP features, which would have brought
out (or not) the bugs.  And of course there would be other differences,
in hardware, installation details, etc.

One final point:  Those people who've had negative experiences with WP 5.2
for OS/2 (or any product, for that matter) have moved on to other
programs.  So naturally, those who still use it are those who didn't have
problems, for whatever reason.  Somebody picking it up anew will be more
likely to have problems than the average current user today, since the new
user will not have been self-selected in the way the current userbase has
been.

--
Rod Smith       [e-mail]
http://members.bellatlantic.net/~smithrod
Author of _Special Edition Using Corel WordPerfect 8 for Linux_, from Que

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From: [e-mail]                         25-Oct-99 13:48:20
  To: All                                               25-Oct-99 14:48:15
Subj: Re: GAH! Got a Trap error on our print server! Help!

From: Siobhan Perricone <[e-mail]>

In article <[e-mail]>,
  "Scott E. Garfinkle" <[e-mail]> wrote:
> You trapped in some device driver or IFS. Unless there was
an "Exception in
> Device" message you imitted, I can't say which.

Nope, I didn't omit anything.  What I typed in is exactly everything
that was on the screen.

FWIW, I finally got IBM on the phone and they couldn't really tell me
anything.  The guy there is gonna give the error to a developer for
PSF/2 to see if there's any further info that can be gleaned from the
error.  He's supposed to call me today to let me know what he finds out.

He did say that it was unusual to get the same Trap error two times in
a row.  But on friday when we tried to recreate it, it wouldn't
happen.  Everything we tried to print worked.  *sigh*

My employers don't *like* not knowing what happened. :)

--
Siobhan Perricone
PC Technician
Alltel Information Services
(I only speak for myself, not for Alltel)


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From: [e-mail]                               25-Oct-99 16:08:07
  To: All                                               25-Oct-99 16:44:03
Subj: User group survival

From: [e-mail] (Esther Schindler)

Uno, I'm not sure why you moved this discussion from comp.os.os2.misc
to c.o.o.advocacy. I've cross-posted this response to both groups, but
since the conversation was started in .misc I suggest that follow-ups
be posted only to that group.

On Mon, 25 Oct 1999 01:19:42, [e-mail] ([e-mail]) wrote:
| Esther Schindler? ([e-mail]?) wrote (24 Oct 1999 20:20:22 GMT):
| >few long diatribes about the requirement of a user group to charge
| >dues. The ones that don't charge dues fade away. The ones that charge
| >something, however modest, have a much better chance of making it.
|
| Or, those that can charge a fee are worth paying the fee to, and so
| it continues.  Those that aren't worth the fee aren't going to stay
| around anyway.

Uno, you miss my point. Whatever the relative value of the user groups
-- and the Bay Area OS/2 User Group was an _excellent_ one, by any
standard you can name -- the statistics demonstrate that
NoDuesCollection==extinction. My theory, that it's related to the
member's (literal) buy-in, is only a theory. But the statistics speak
for themselves.

Sure, most bad user groups fail, just as most bad software companies
fail and most bad restaurants fail. But a good user group will fail
within 3 years, if it doesn't charge dues -- even though the apparency
is that "no cost" is a benefit.

With money coming in, the user group leadership has resources for
doing something to serve the membership. Those services aren't 100%
successful (what is?) but they enhance the ability of the user group
membership to use their computers more efficiently and more enjoyably,
and to help other people -- which is the whole point of the exercise.

|But, still, OS/2 users are hard enough to find, and
| if you can't keep all of them the outfit is in trouble (it's not like
| there are more where they came from).

The "hard enough to find" is the real trouble. Just as any computer
industry magazine attracts only a tiny percentage of the computer
users out there, any user group (OS/2 or otherwise) has to find and
attract a significant percentage of the community... the qualified
target market, if you will. Unless an OS/2 user happens to check
WarpCast or read the newsgroups or participate in a _very_ closed set
of activities, she can miss the existance of a user group entirely.
(And this is quite common. I spent 3 months as OS/2 Network
Administrator at a large company that was running several OS/2
servers, and they didn't read _anything_ except PC Week or
Infoworld... and usually were too busy to look at that.)

(The biggest problem for OS/2 ISVs isn't the shrinking market size,
but _FINDING_ the market in the first place. You can't advertise on a
TV show if you don't know what shows the qualified buyers are
watching, for instance.)

Also, keep the context in mind. Most user groups, across the board,
are shrinking rapidly. I'm still on the mail lists for user group
officers. Most general/Windows groups report that their membership has
slipped from, say, 500 to 225 members, in the last couple of years.
Between the Internet and the ubiquity of information about PCs, it's
no longer quite as necessary for the "general" computer user to leave
the house on a dark and stormy night to find out about the latest and
greatest application. (I have several other criticisms about general
PC user group management, and theories about their shrinkage, but
they're way off topic.)

In contrast, the Phoenix OS/2 Society's membership is growing, every
month. Not necessarily by a lot, every time, but we're growing while
others are shrinking. That's almost entirely because we've put the
dues money into the user group's print magazine -- extended attributes
is our major service to the membership. It's won awards three times
over, so _somebody_ agrees that we're doing something right.

| [POSSI has] members in 19 countries and nearly every U.S.
| >state. (Know any OS/2 users in South Dakota?)
|
| How about breaking it all down, as in numbers per country/state?  It's
| easy to say "my [product] is in five (or six) continents", but that's
| just so much hooey, and only brought up because there's nothing else
| to bring up.

It's already been done, Uno. About 6 months ago, we published a map in
extended attributes, showing where the members live. Had you been a
member, or an advertiser, you'd have seen the chart.

--Esther Schindler
  Program Chair
  Phoenix OS/2 Society
  http://www.possi.org

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From: [e-mail]                               25-Oct-99 11:41:26
  To: All                                               25-Oct-99 16:44:04
Subj: Re: Warp Server not able to get available memory

From: Brad BARCLAY <[e-mail]>

[e-mail] wrote:
>
> We have a NetFinity 3000 with 528 MB memory running Warp Server 4.0 and
> DB2 Universal Database 5.2, Fixpack 11.  We've been unable to get DB2
> to use large amounts of this memory for bufferpools.  If I request more
> than a trivial amount of memory, DB2 doesn't get the memory, and drops
> back to very low bufferpool sizes (We determined this by using a memory
> monitoring tool and looking at db2diag.log).
>
> When we installed Warp 4.0 workstation on the same PC with the same
> database version, the problem went away and it all worked fine.
>
> Is there a known problem with Warp Server making large (e.g., > 64 MB)
> of memory available to programs, such as DB2?

    Just something to remember - there is a big difference between WARP
Server v4 and WARP client v4.  The former is actually based on the WARP
v3 client codebase.

    Do you have the latest WARP Server v4 fixpak installed?

Brad BARCLAY

=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Posted from the OS/2 WARP v4.5 desktop of Brad BARCLAY.
E-Mail:  [e-mail]        Location:  2G43D@Torolabs

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From: [e-mail]                           25-Oct-99 18:07:02
  To: All                                               25-Oct-99 16:44:04
Subj: Re: Warp Server not able to get available memory

From: [e-mail] (Lorne Sunley)

On Mon, 25 Oct 1999 17:23:51, [e-mail] wrote:

> Thanks for the quick response, Brad.  We have installed all the latest
> fixpacks; even lived through inserting 18 diskettes for one of them.
>
> I'm vaguely aware of the Warp Server v4 vs. Warp Client v4 codebase
> differences.  I have to stop myself from referring to Warp Server v4 as
> version 3; it calls itself v4, but it looks and acts like v3 ;-).  I
> suspect that may be the source of the problem: that something was fixed
> for Warp 4 workstation, but isn't in the Warp Server code.
>
> For our in-house machines, we're working around the problem by
> installing Warp 4 workstation on the database server.  But we HAVE to
> get it working under Warp Server at our customer sites, for lots of
> reasons.
>
> Any suggestions?  Were there any fixes in Warp workstation that
> addressed this?  Is there any change in how Warp Server works that it
> won't give an application very much memory unless you configure it a
> certain way?
>
> Derek
>
> In article <[e-mail]>,
>   Brad BARCLAY <[e-mail]> wrote:
> > [e-mail] wrote:
> > >
> > > We have a NetFinity 3000 with 528 MB memory running Warp Server 4.0
> and
> > > DB2 Universal Database 5.2, Fixpack 11.  We've been unable to get
> DB2
> > > to use large amounts of this memory for bufferpools.  If I request
> more
> > > than a trivial amount of memory, DB2 doesn't get the memory, and
> drops
> > > back to very low bufferpool sizes (We determined this by using a
> memory
> > > monitoring tool and looking at db2diag.log).
> > >
> > > When we installed Warp 4.0 workstation on the same PC with the same
> > > database version, the problem went away and it all worked fine.
> > >
> > > Is there a known problem with Warp Server making large (e.g., > 64
> MB)
> > > of memory available to programs, such as DB2?
> >
> >     Just something to remember - there is a big difference between
> WARP
> > Server v4 and WARP client v4.  The former is actually based on the
> WARP
> > v3 client codebase.
> >
> >     Do you have the latest WARP Server v4 fixpak installed?
> >

The most likely thing is the disk cache allocated by HPFS386.

The largest cache size used by HPFS (which is what is running
on the Warp 4 client) is 2 Mbyte. HPFS386 will allocated a much
larger default cache. Take a look at the HPFS386.INI (?) and
see what the max cache size is set to. (I think that's where it
is but I do not have HPFS386 installed on my server WSeB)

Lorne Sunley


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From: [e-mail]                                     25-Oct-99 15:26:09
  To: All                                               25-Oct-99 16:44:04
Subj: Re: Multiprocessor Support

From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Bj=F8rn?= Vermo <[e-mail]>

Harry Travis wrote:

> In <SKfw30zmCGmZ-pn2-gdt11vxHenvR@localhost>, on 10/24/99
>    at 08:21 PM, doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net (Doug Bissett) said:
>
> >On Sat, 23 Oct 1999 15:31:51, "David T. Johnson"
> ><[e-mail]> wrote:
>
> >> Richard Hanson wrote:
> >> >
> >> > Quick question: Does OS/2 Warp v.4 support dual processors? I was
thinking of installing it on a Tyan Tomcat 4.02 with dual P300's.
> >> >
> >> A little off-topic but what is the advantage of dual P300's over a
> >> single PIII 600 Mhz or Athlon 700 Mhz?
>
> >You know, that is a very difficult question, and there is no real
> >answer. It depends on so many variables, that one user might find that
> >(s)he gets a real performance boost (over a single processor), and
> >another will find performance degradation.
>
> >Way back, in 1968, I worked on an old IBM mainframe (the 2065, for
> >those who might remember), which had a multiple processor
> >configuration (2). The MP was found to perform anywhere from 2 to 5
> >times what a single (identical) processor could do (in a production
> >environment). A lot of research was done, to try to figure this out,
> >but I think the analysis was faulty, or they never did figure it out,
> >because more modern multiprocessor systems performed somewhere less
> >than 2 over a single processor. I have no idea how these numbers
> >relate to the PC, but I suspect that they are similar. Then there is
> >the operating system. Properly designed, and multithreaded, like OS/2,
> >it will do much better than something that doesn't have the ability to
> >assign work to the processors in such a way that it can keep them
> >busy. Then there are the programs running under the OS. If they are
> >properly designed, and mutithreaded, so the OS has something to work
> >with, they can make a tremendous difference to performance.
>
> >So, yes, two processors can outrun a single (twice as fast) processor,
> >but only if the configuration is correct. I suspect that, even with
> >other things being optimal, that a single 600 mhz processor will
> >outrun dual 300 mhz processors, just because there is less overhead to
> >dispatch the job stream.
>
> This PPRO 200 stand-alone user with a dual processor-board would rather
> keep the box, add a second processor and VRM (for $120, tops) and send
> IBM $150 for SMP OS/2  client, if it were available. than I would buy a
> new 450+. Not even close, in terms of indirect set-up time and
> data-movement costs.
>

I'd buy a dual or quad PPro system any time, it is by far the best processor
forOS/2.
This is definitely a case where things are not equal. Still, a 400MHz PPro
with a faster bus would probably outperform the dual 200 in some
98% of all cases.

IBM have done a number of tests of SMP systems, and they have published
several test results and white papers. OS/2 can, in some very rare
circumstances, get slightly above 100% scaling from one to two processors.
This only happens in some rather contrieved benchmarks, not in
real life. On the other hand, things are never equal in real life. The real
alternative to a dual xMHz is not a single 2xMHz same type CPU
in the same board, it is either a twice-as-fast newer-generation CPU in a
board designed for it if speed is everything an money no concern,
or the twice as expensive board/CPU configuration when money is the
restraining factor.

Inexpensive dual processor boards have a bottleneck in the cache, memory and
bus paths. A twice as fast newer generation CPU with a faster
external bus will always have an advantage unless the task to perform consists
of tight computational loops with little I/O and small
amounts of data in memory.

On the other hand, a CPU which is half as fast as the newest and greatest will
usually cost much less than half the price. You may be able
to get something almost as fast for less than half the price, or something
noticeably faster for only slightly more. Such calculations are
extremely short lived. By the time you have assembled the dual system, the
price of the new superfast processor may have dropped by 50%.

What I would really like to get my hands on, is a high-grade SMP system with
16 or more 100MHz 486 processors and dual microchannel. I use
electrical heating in any case...


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From: [e-mail]                          25-Oct-99 15:41:02
  To: All                                               25-Oct-99 16:44:04
Subj: Re: Floppy problems

From: [e-mail] (Andrew Stephenson)

In article <SKfw30zmCGmZ-pn2-ZD5i1UcVmjD8@localhost>
       doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net "Doug Bissett" writes:

> [...]  I NEVER clean diskette

Around 1982/3, when floppy disk technology was represented by the
likes of 5.25", a few lingering 8" and 3.5" coming along fast, I
worked with people whose office in a seedy building in an older
part of London was constantly dusty, thanks to reconstructions
going on in neighbouring offices.  You could leave something for
a day and come back to a noticeable film.  Yet (so they claimed)
they never had disk problems attributable to the dust.  Maybe the
fans in the machines moved the muck too fast for it to settle on
drive heads and disks?
--
Andrew Stephenson

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From: [e-mail]                          25-Oct-99 15:46:29
  To: All                                               25-Oct-99 16:44:04
Subj: Re: Modems (again?)

From: [e-mail] (Andrew Stephenson)

In article <[e-mail]>
       [e-mail] "Richard Steiner" writes:

> [...]
>
> FWIW, USR Couriers have text-based flash software which runs in
> DOS, and which I believe runs just fine in a VDM.

Confirmed.  My 1995-vintage Courier Dual Standard has had one u/g
that way.  But then further flash upgrades became hard to locate,
as USR-UK failed to give some of the worst non-service never seen
-- if you follow me.  <g>  But the u/g did work smoothly.

> They aren't inexpensive, however.

Compared with the ultra-el-cheapos, certainly.  I think it's a
case of amortising that cost over a long and contented lifetime.
--
Andrew Stephenson

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From: Magnus Olsson                                     25-Oct-99 17:33:15
  To: All                                               25-Oct-99 16:44:04
Subj: Deep trouble

From: Magnus Olsson

Hi all!

I'm facing a very difficult problem. As you can see i have to use the BeOS to
post this cry for help. Whenever I try to dial the internet i get a crashed
dialer due to an access violation as follows:

10-24-1999  12:27:23  SYS3175  PID 0027  TID 0002  Slot 0045
E:\TCPIP\BIN\SLIPPM.EXE
c0000005
1bf91d36
P1=00000000  P2=ffffffff  P3=XXXXXXXX  P4=XXXXXXXX
EAX=00c1ec40  EBX=00001000  ECX=00000000  EDX=00c30000
ESI=00c30000  EDI=0000000d
DS=0053  DSACC=d0f3  DSLIM=1fffffff
ES=0053  ESACC=d0f3  ESLIM=1fffffff
FS=150b  FSACC=00f3  FSLIM=00000030
GS=0000  GSACC=****  GSLIM=********
CS:EIP=005b:1bf91d36  CSACC=d0df  CSLIM=1fffffff
SS:ESP=0053:00c1ec24  SSACC=d0f3  SSLIM=1fffffff
EBP=00c1ec44  FLG=00002206

DOSCALL1.DLL 0002:00001d36

The same happens with the IBM internet dialer, Communicator, Navigator and
ProNews too...

I've had some "odd" problems with fp12, so i tried to backout to fp8, but no
luck:-(

I use the internet a lot, and recently i've used it daily for international
communication with my girl-friend, so I'm in deep deep trouble!!! Please help
me if you can I'll be eternally grateful (no exaggeration!)

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From: [e-mail]                        25-Oct-99 17:50:27
  To: All                                               25-Oct-99 16:44:04
Subj: Re: Scrolling with serial mice...

From: [e-mail] (Alex Taylor)

On Fri, 22 Oct 1999 19:57:01 -0400 (EDT), David McKenna <[e-mail]>
wrote:
> >For me, and I'm pretty certain for most "Joe/Jane User"s, IRQs are _far_
> >more valuable than serial ports.  In my experience, most people use 1
> >serial port for a modem (if they don't have internal), leaving another
> >available for a mouse.  Most desktops have 2 serial ports, expandable to 4.
>
>   I agree IRQ's are more valuable than serial ports. That is why I always
> disable them in the computers' BIOS (unless they are being used). This frees
> those IRQ's (3 and 4) for other uses. It has been at least 4 years since I
> have seen a BIOS that does not allow disabling the COM ports (I admit I
> haven't seen them all :-).
>
>    Why not use the PS/2 mouse, and disable one of the COM ports for the IRQ?

It just seems very silly and redundant to me, not to mention inelegant.
I suppose I could, but I've got a perfectly good serial mouse which
uses system resources exactly the way I like, without needing any such
reconfiguring.

In any case, I don't want to buy another mouse, it seems wasteful.

--
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 [e-mail]   http://eddie.cis.uoguelph.ca/~alex
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From: [e-mail]                                25-Oct-99 12:52:16
  To: All                                               25-Oct-99 16:44:04
Subj: Re: Help - OS2 boot procedure

From: Dale Erwin <[e-mail]>

I strongly suspect that you made your copy while OS/2 was running.
Consequently some of the system files were locked and could not
be copied.  Sorry I can't remember the workaround for sure, but
seems like booting the source PC from floppies should enable the
copy to proceed successfully.
--
Dale


[e-mail] wrote:

> I'm running OS2 on a PC. I copied the entire contents of the HD to
> another PC (same model hd etc) The problem is it crashes before loading
> the complete OS. It says "Exception in device driver: SINGLEQ$".
>
> The new PC is not connected to a network which the other one is. Also it
> does not have a Token Ring card unlike the older machine. But shouldn't
> it still boot?
>
> Can someone tell me what files are read by the booting procedure please.
> Is it just the config.sys file or are other file also read?
>
> Any help appreciated
>
> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> Before you buy.

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From: [e-mail]                             25-Oct-99 10:58:27
  To: All                                               25-Oct-99 16:44:04
Subj: Re: Fdisk and 3rd hard drive

From: "David T. Johnson" <[e-mail]>


David Gillespie wrote:
>
> I recently installed a third hard drive, a WD 13gig on a Warp 4
> system.  I partitioned it and formatted the partitions HPFS.  The
> problem is, I want to add one of the partitions to the bootmanager
> menu but Fdisk will not let me.  The only options that show up when I
> run fdisk is:
> delete partition and set startup value when I select any partition on
> that drive.  I have even tried using the install disks but still no
> go.  Will this not work???  Any help is appreciated.

Try setting the drive as LBA in the BIOS setup.  Then see if FDISK will
give you the boot manager option.  If yes, select the
add-to-boot-manager option, reformat the hard drive, and off ya go.


>
> David Gillespie

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From: [e-mail]                         25-Oct-99 17:23:25
  To: All                                               25-Oct-99 16:44:04
Subj: Re: Warp Server not able to get available memory

From: [e-mail]

Thanks for the quick response, Brad.  We have installed all the latest
fixpacks; even lived through inserting 18 diskettes for one of them.

I'm vaguely aware of the Warp Server v4 vs. Warp Client v4 codebase
differences.  I have to stop myself from referring to Warp Server v4 as
version 3; it calls itself v4, but it looks and acts like v3 ;-).  I
suspect that may be the source of the problem: that something was fixed
for Warp 4 workstation, but isn't in the Warp Server code.

For our in-house machines, we're working around the problem by
installing Warp 4 workstation on the database server.  But we HAVE to
get it working under Warp Server at our customer sites, for lots of
reasons.

Any suggestions?  Were there any fixes in Warp workstation that
addressed this?  Is there any change in how Warp Server works that it
won't give an application very much memory unless you configure it a
certain way?

Derek

In article <[e-mail]>,
  Brad BARCLAY <[e-mail]> wrote:
> [e-mail] wrote:
> >
> > We have a NetFinity 3000 with 528 MB memory running Warp Server 4.0
and
> > DB2 Universal Database 5.2, Fixpack 11.  We've been unable to get
DB2
> > to use large amounts of this memory for bufferpools.  If I request
more
> > than a trivial amount of memory, DB2 doesn't get the memory, and
drops
> > back to very low bufferpool sizes (We determined this by using a
memory
> > monitoring tool and looking at db2diag.log).
> >
> > When we installed Warp 4.0 workstation on the same PC with the same
> > database version, the problem went away and it all worked fine.
> >
> > Is there a known problem with Warp Server making large (e.g., > 64
MB)
> > of memory available to programs, such as DB2?
>
>     Just something to remember - there is a big difference between
WARP
> Server v4 and WARP client v4.  The former is actually based on the
WARP
> v3 client codebase.
>
>     Do you have the latest WARP Server v4 fixpak installed?
>
> Brad BARCLAY
>
> =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
> Posted from the OS/2 WARP v4.5 desktop of Brad BARCLAY.
> E-Mail:  [e-mail]        Location:  2G43D@Torolabs
>


Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.

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From: [e-mail]                             25-Oct-99 13:56:29
  To: All                                               25-Oct-99 16:44:04
Subj: Re: Warp Server not able to get available memory

From: "Scott E. Garfinkle" <[e-mail]>

On Mon, 25 Oct 1999 18:07:04 GMT, Lorne Sunley wrote:

>> Is there a known problem with Warp Server making large (e.g., > 64
>> MB)
>> > > of memory available to programs, such as DB2?
Lorne is right -- it's probably hpfs386. In hpfs386.ini, add a line that
reads
   maxheap=2048
Also, if you're running commserver, look for a line in config.sys that looks
like
   DEVICE=C:\CMLIB\CMKFMDE.SYS
If you find it, change it to look like
   DEVICE=C:\CMLIB\CMKFMDE.SYS  /lsl=2m
If this works, try 8m for better performance and see whether it still works.



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From: [e-mail]                                 25-Oct-99 07:42:07
  To: All                                               25-Oct-99 16:44:04
Subj: Re: what brand and model PC today to buy for OS/2 ?

From: [e-mail]

In <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Richard Steiner) writes:
>Here in comp.os.os2.misc, =?iso-8859-1?Q?Bj=F8rn?= Vermo <[e-mail]>
>spake unto us, saying:
>
>>OK - IBM (real thing, not the Aptiva) are reliable beyond the obsolescence
>>point. The IBM PC-xxx comes in models with OS/2, while the servers come in
>>versions with no OS (or even with no disk installed). The Intellistation
>>series does not support OS/2 well.
>
>Huh.  This must have seriously changed in the past few years.
>
>One of the boxes I use Warp 4 on here is an IBM IntelliStation Z Pro
>(the older Z Pro model 6899 based on the PPro/200 processor), and it
>has been formally certified by IBM to run with both Warp 3 and Warp 4.
>
>In my experience, that IntelliStation model runs Warp 4 flawlessly.

me too - model 6899, Warp 3AS, SMP, overclocked to boot  ( c'mon rich,
after more than a year's test you should believe me ! one little DIP switch .
. . )

>
>--
>   -Rich Steiner  >>>--->  [e-mail]  >>>---> Bloomington, MN
>     OS/2 + Linux + BeOS + FreeBSD + Solaris + WinNT4 + Win95 + DOS
>      + VMWare + Fusion + vMac + Executor = PC Hobbyist Heaven! :-)
>          Why is common sense is the least common of all senses?


Albert, the Mad Shirt Grinder

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From: [e-mail]                               25-Oct-99 21:39:29
  To: All                                               25-Oct-99 16:44:04
Subj: The new version of Nice OS/2 Enhancer is released :-)

From: "Sergey Posokhov" <[e-mail]>

                               Hello!

 The Nice OS/2 Enhancer adds new features to the OS/2 Warp system. It
 works alongside the Presentation Manager (PM) and other applications.

 This version has a new interface and great changes in a kernel code,
 the speed was increased, new features were added.

 Here is a list of the Enhancer's features:
  * Image movement in all windows by means of mouse and keyboard,
  * Frames and controls modified for all windows,
  * Workplace extension - four "Rooms" around the desktop,
  * "Hot-keys" definition for any version of OS/2 Warp,
  * Various "patches" for your system.

 Nice OS/2 Enhancer is a multi-threaded application so it cannot block the
 system, and is very stable. All actions are performed in background mode
 so you do not need to upgrade your hardware to use this Enhancer.

 Try to make your system better :-)

 System requirements: OS/2 Warp 4.x with Netscape Navigator.

 Status: OpenSource software.

 Application URL: 1. ftp-os2.nmsu.edu/pub/os2/util/wps/nice-os2-v30.zip
                  2. ftp.kiarchive.ru/pub/os2/wpsutil/nice-os2-v30.zip
                  3. beit.fcn.ru/pub/os2/wpsutil/nice-os2-v30.zip

 Screenshot URL:  ftp-os2.nmsu.edu/pub/multimedia/images/gif/nice-os2.gif

 Regards!








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From: [e-mail]                               25-Oct-99 21:36:16
  To: All                                               25-Oct-99 16:44:04
Subj: New file utility is released.

From: "Sergey Posokhov" <[e-mail]>

                               News!

A new version of file checker "Names" is released. This application
checks files on HPFS drives, it can change a case of names, revise
differences between file and WPS object names, change attributes
of files, and more.

Requirements: OS/2 Warp 4.x with Netscape Navigator.

Status: OpenSource software.

Full URL: ftp-os2.nmsu.edu/pub/os2/util/disk/Names-v11.zip

Download and enjoy it!






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From: [e-mail]                        25-Oct-99 18:40:13
  To: All                                               25-Oct-99 16:44:04
Subj: Re: Help - OS2 boot procedure

From: [e-mail] (Alex Taylor)

On Mon, 25 Oct 1999 14:37:41 GMT, [e-mail] <[e-mail]>
wrote:
> I'm running OS2 on a PC. I copied the entire contents of the HD to
> another PC (same model hd etc) The problem is it crashes before loading
> the complete OS. It says "Exception in device driver: SINGLEQ$".

Sounds like an incompatible video driver.  Are you absolutely sure
that ALL the hardware in both machines is completely identical?
If not, doing a straight hard drive copy is liable to do things
like this.

Try hitting Alt-F1 at the OS/2 "boot blob", and choosing "Reset primary
video to VGA"; and see if that works.  If it does, you can then go
about installing the correct video driver.

If that's not it, it's sounds like something else to do with the
desktop is messed up.  You could also try the "Maintenance Desktop"...

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 [e-mail]   http://eddie.cis.uoguelph.ca/~alex
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From: [e-mail]                             25-Oct-99 12:52:12
  To: All                                               25-Oct-99 16:44:04
Subj: Re: GAH! Got a Trap error on our print server! Help!

From: "Scott E. Garfinkle" <[e-mail]>

On Mon, 25 Oct 1999 13:48:40 GMT, Siobhan Perricone wrote:

>> You trapped in some device driver or IFS. Unless there was
>an "Exception in
>> Device" message you imitted, I can't say which.
>Nope, I didn't omit anything.  What I typed in is exactly everything
>that was on the screen.

You ignored the important part of the post. Go back and run exeinfo like I
wrote before.
Until you do this, you're wasting your time.


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From: [e-mail]                         25-Oct-99 19:01:08
  To: All                                               25-Oct-99 16:44:04
Subj: Re: GAH! Got a Trap error on our print server! Help!

From: Siobhan Perricone <[e-mail]>

In article <[e-mail]>,
  "Scott E. Garfinkle" <[e-mail]> wrote:
> You trapped in some device driver or IFS. Unless there was
an "Exception in
> Device" message you imitted, I can't say which.

regarding the accusation that I ignored your suggestion...

> get
> ftp://hobbes.nmsu.edu/pub/os2/util/disk/exeinfo.zip. unzip it and type
> "exefino -f -le87f" from a command prompt on each drive where you
have device
> drivers. You should get back a match fr the code segment size of some
DD. At
> least that will tell you what's trapping so you can look for newer fix
> levels, tune parameters, or whatever.

While I appreciate the help, speaking to me as if I were a newbie
(because I *am*) would be a big help.  I don't know what "You should
get back a match fr the code segment size of some DD." means.

Since I already have someone at IBM working on this (and since I'm
already paying him to help me), I'll wait for him to contact me.
Though I have printed out your message and I'll consult him about it.

AGain, thank you.

--
Siobhan Perricone
PC Technician
Alltel Information Services
(I only speak for myself, not for Alltel)


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From: [e-mail]                              25-Oct-99 12:21:20
  To: All                                               25-Oct-99 16:44:04
Subj: ADSL connection in Victoria

From: "Frank Rusko" <[e-mail]>

Does anyone in Victoria have experience in setting up ADSL and
who lives in the Victoria B.C. area.

ADSL is supplied here in the Victoria area, but I am not too
comfortable in setting it up myself any help would be
appreciated.

I would be willing to reimburse anyone who can get it up and
running for me.

Thank you in advance




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From: [e-mail]                                  25-Oct-99 18:36:09
  To: All                                               25-Oct-99 16:44:04
Subj: Re: Help - OS2 boot procedure

From: [e-mail] (Frank Beythien)

On Mon, 25 Oct 1999 14:37:41, [e-mail] wrote:

> I'm running OS2 on a PC. I copied the entire contents of the HD to
> another PC (same model hd etc) The problem is it crashes before loading
> the complete OS. It says "Exception in device driver: SINGLEQ$".

What about the graphic card?
You could try to boot to a cmdline ( alt-f1 at the os/2 blob) and then
enter SETVGA to go back to VGA.
Later you can (re)install the graphic driver.

CU/2
Frank
--
Frank Beythien   [e-mail]

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From: [e-mail]                              25-Oct-99 19:39:17
  To: All                                               25-Oct-99 19:06:15
Subj: Which protocol i use to write a os/2 program that tranfers files with s

From: [e-mail]

Hi -
I want to write a program in C++ or asm language that sends a file from
one computer to another by a serial port(RS-232) . Do you know any
protocol or have a sample code or even know a site that helps me . In
this problem the reciver knows nothing about the size or name of
transferring file .I previously sent my request to this forum but i
forgot to say that i want to "Write a os/2 program" to make this, no
any software that do that .
- thanks - majid


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From: [e-mail]                               25-Oct-99 20:03:15
  To: All                                               25-Oct-99 19:06:15
Subj: Re: OK, I must be getting spoiled <g> so let me ask for more ...

From: [e-mail] (M.P. van Dobben de Bruijn)

> Ideally you would drag the TIFF Icon into your application's document and
that
> would be it.  Since you are having problems with that, perhaps you can drag
the
> TIFF to the clipboard app.  I'm not sure where it is in the folders

Thanks that was what I was looking for: a way to get it straight into the
clipboard
without the need to open up a graphic application. However, still fail to find
a way
to do that and I am completely unaware where to find the clipboard to put it
into.

Regards from Leeuwarden
Peter van Dobben de Bruijn
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From: [e-mail]                             25-Oct-99 14:38:21
  To: All                                               25-Oct-99 19:06:15
Subj: Re: GAH! Got a Trap error on our print server! Help!

From: "Scott E. Garfinkle" <[e-mail]>

On Mon, 25 Oct 1999 19:01:17 GMT, Siobhan Perricone wrote:

>> get  ftp://hobbes.nmsu.edu/pub/os2/util/disk/exeinfo.zip. unzip it and type
>> "exefino -f -le87f" from a command prompt on each drive where you have
device
>> drivers. You should get back a match fr the code segment size of some DD.
At
>> least that will tell you what's trapping so you can look for newer fix
>> levels, tune parameters, or whatever.
>While I appreciate the help, speaking to me as if I were a newbie
>(because I *am*) would be a big help.  I don't know what "You should
>get back a match fr the code segment size of some DD." means.
Sorry. I was a bit brief!! The point was, i didn't really THINK there was an
exception in device message, and I'm trying to tell you that you HAVE to run
exeinfo, as specified.  The "match" to which I refer will come about if
exeinfo finds a code object in an executable file (e.g. .SYS) that matches
the number you type in -- which, in turn, matches the CSLIM value you saw in
your trap screen.  The PSF/2 support people will not be able to help you
without a lot of luck unless you come up with the device driver info. Do
yourself a big favor and run the command.
    regards, scott



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From: [e-mail]                                     25-Oct-99 18:55:11
  To: All                                               25-Oct-99 19:06:15
Subj: Re: Help - OS2 boot procedure

From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Bj=F8rn?= Vermo <[e-mail]>

[e-mail] wrote:

> I'm running OS2 on a PC. I copied the entire contents of the HD to
> another PC (same model hd etc) The problem is it crashes before loading
> the complete OS. It says "Exception in device driver: SINGLEQ$".
>
> The new PC is not connected to a network which the other one is. Also it
> does not have a Token Ring card unlike the older machine. But shouldn't
> it still boot?
>

No, not the way networking is implemented. Keep in mind that it is possible
to boot from net, for instance.

>
> Can someone tell me what files are read by the booting procedure please.
> Is it just the config.sys file or are other file also read?
>

It is enough to rem out all the networking from config.sys and startup.cmd
fo get a bootable system.

In principle, OS/2 requires to be installed on the actual hardware you run
it on. Disk cloning may work, but it really is a can of worms. The support
for installation over the network is very good, but that obviously does not
help when the target is not on the net.

If the problem is that you do not have a CD-ROM drive, it is possible to
copy the installation CD to a disk partition and make boot diskettes which
will start installation from that.


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From: [e-mail]                           25-Oct-99 20:45:24
  To: All                                               25-Oct-99 19:06:15
Subj: Re: OK, I must be getting spoiled <g> so let me ask for more ...

From: [e-mail] (John Varela)

On Mon, 25 Oct 1999 20:03:30, [e-mail] (M.P. van Dobben de
Bruijn) wrote:

>
> >> Isn't there a facility in Warp (or an utility if it must be) that allows
me
> >> to right-click on a files icon and then simply select the option to put
> >> the contents into the clipboard without the need to open an app first?
>
> > Pickup followed by Dump.
>
> Thanks. Found the PickUp and ended up with a camera near
> the pointer. No way to Dump it into the clipboard or the intended
> application (IBMworks in this case) however. What am I doing wrong?

As a test I just picked up a text file, right clicked on the EPM icon,
selected DROP --> Move from the menu, and EPM opened the file.  Then I
tried it with Lotus WordPro and that worked, too.

--
John Varela
to e-mail, remove - between mind and spring

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From: [e-mail]                           25-Oct-99 20:54:25
  To: All                                               25-Oct-99 19:06:15
Subj: Re: OK, I must be getting spoiled <g> so let me ask for more ...

From: [e-mail] (John Varela)

On Mon, 25 Oct 1999 20:03:31, [e-mail] (M.P. van Dobben de
Bruijn) wrote:

>
> > Ideally you would drag the TIFF Icon into your application's document and
that
> > would be it.  Since you are having problems with that, perhaps you can
drag the
> > TIFF to the clipboard app.  I'm not sure where it is in the folders
>
> Thanks that was what I was looking for: a way to get it straight into the
clipboard
> without the need to open up a graphic application. However, still fail to
find a way
> to do that and I am completely unaware where to find the clipboard to put it
into.

I see I misunderstood what you were trying to do.

I use a freeware multiclipboard program called ManyClip, and I know
where to find its icon.  Unfortunately, pickup/drop doesn't work with
ManyClip.

--
John Varela
to e-mail, remove - between mind and spring

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From: [e-mail]                            25-Oct-99 18:19:23
  To: All                                               25-Oct-99 21:17:19
Subj: Re: Networking 2 home computers...

From: "Christopher B. Lyon" <[e-mail]>

Or, you can do what we did...if you are only going to connect 2 computers,
use a crossover cable.  These are available for only like a buck more than
the regular cables and you won't need a hub.
Chris

Gary Dale <[e-mail]> wrote in message
news:[e-mail]...
> If you are running at 10M bps then you can probably use coaxial ethernet
> cable. Almost all 10M cards have both coax and twisted pair connectors. If
> you are wiring up a home or office, then go with Cat 5 twisted pair.
> Otherwise, a simple coax network avoids the need for a hub. However, it is
> worth noting that 10M hubs are dirt cheap these days, and even 100M hubs
> can be reasonable.
>
> devlin wrote:
>
> > Hub not needed for networking two computers if you use a 4 wire
> > ethernet cable.
> >
> > I am running my two computer network with one NIC card in each and one
> > 4 wire eithernet cable and it works fantastic!
> >
> > Hub only needed if you are going to be connecting more than two.
> >
> > On Tue, 24 Aug 1999 00:06:10 -0700, Dane <localhost@127.0.0.1> wrote:
> >
> > >Philip Wright wrote:
> > >>
> > >> A 3COM OfficeConnect 4 port hub is dirt cheap (~$40).
> > >> Rather than fool with crossover cables I would recommend
> > >> a hub for simplicity and expandability.
> > >>
> > >> Philip Wright
> > >
> > >I'll take a $7 Cat 5 crossover cable anyday of the week
> > >over a $40 hub. Add to it a pair of Pro 100 Ethernet
> > >cards and you have a very fast network.
> > >
> > >--
> > >Anti-Spamming measures. To reply to me, remove nospam.
> > >and ROT-13 my email address: [e-mail]
>


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From: [e-mail]                          25-Oct-99 22:22:20
  To: All                                               25-Oct-99 21:17:19
Subj: Re: Help - OS2 boot procedure

From: [e-mail] (Annie K.)

On Mon, 25 Oct 1999 14:37:41, [e-mail] wrote:

:I'm running OS2 on a PC. I copied the entire contents of the HD to
:another PC (same model hd etc) The problem is it crashes before loading
:the complete OS. It says "Exception in device driver: SINGLEQ$".

 Boot the machine, and when you see the small white rectangle in the
upper left corner with "OS/2" next to it, hit Alt-F1. Choose reset to
VGA from the menu, and see if that doesn't help.

--
Klaatu barada nikto

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From: [e-mail]                        26-Oct-99 00:31:25
  To: All                                               25-Oct-99 21:17:19
Subj: Stuck - LS120

From: [e-mail]

Warp 4 fixpack 11 - 8.4Meg Hard drive (so right drivers are there?).
OS2 doesn't find the LS120 drive (either slave or master - I won't be
caught twice by that).  Naturally works fine under NT on same machine.

This is a tad frustrating. I would welcome ideas/answers.

Patrick

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From: [e-mail]                      25-Oct-99 22:35:03
  To: All                                               25-Oct-99 21:17:19
Subj: Re: Interesting TrueType tid-bit...

From: [e-mail]

In article <SKfw30zmCGmZ-pn2-snfveFEx6R6L@localhost>,
  doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net (Doug Bissett) wrote:

> I am not sure what you find so "interesting".

HexEdit (or open in e.exe) any .TTF file, and look for some familiar
text... You may recognize it as the name of an IBM made PC Operating
system.

I've done this on Win95 machines too. Very interesting to say the least.

--
-Steven Hunter               *OS/2 Warp 4 * |
[e-mail] *AMD K6-2 400* |


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From: [e-mail]                                    26-Oct-99 00:09:01
  To: All                                               25-Oct-99 21:17:19
Subj: Re: Stuck - LS120

From: [e-mail] (William Sonna)

On Mon, 25 Oct 1999 23:31:51, [e-mail] wrote:

>
> Warp 4 fixpack 11 - 8.4Meg Hard drive (so right drivers are there?).
> OS2 doesn't find the LS120 drive (either slave or master - I won't be
> caught twice by that).  Naturally works fine under NT on same machine.
>
> This is a tad frustrating. I would welcome ideas/answers.
>
> Patrick

I had the sane problem.

Put: "basedev=IBMATAPI.FLT" in your config.sys file.

I won't lie to you and say it works very well, but it is at least
tolerable from the command line.  It does work quite q bit better on
Win '98.  But then, you've got to use Win '98.

Good Luck

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From: [e-mail]                                26-Oct-99 00:48:12
  To: All                                               26-Oct-99 05:14:19
Subj: FP12 - Trap 00d

From: Dale Erwin <[e-mail]>

I just installed FP12 today, then when I tried to reboot, I got the
following trap:
------------------------------
Exception in Device Driver:  ES18691$
Trap 00d              ERRCE=0084    ERRAC=****       ERLIM=********
EAX=fde20084   EBX=ffff0000    ECX=00004e88    EDX=00000000
ESI=9692001e    EDI=00000291    EBP=00004eaa    FLG=00213246
CS:EIP=2ae0:00004260    CSACC=0096    CSLIM=000068d0
SS:ESP=0030:00004ea6    SSACC=1097    SSLIM=00003fff
DS=2ad8    DSACC=0093    DSLIM=00002bf0    CR0=8001001b
ES=2ad8    ESACC=0093    ESLIM=00002bf0    CR2=ffe1813a
FS=0000    FSACC=****    FLSIM=********
GS=0000    GSACC=****    GSLIM=********

The system detected an internal processing error at
location ##0168:fff4832e - 0000:c32e.

600000, 9084
05860570
Internal Revision 9.036, 99/07/20

The system is stopped.  Record all of the above
information and contact your service representative.
------------------------------
Seems that I have heard it said before that not much of this
information is beneficial to determining the cause of the trouble.
I am sure the first line is important though.  After several
unsuccessful
tries to reboot, I booted from Utility disks and REMed out the two
lines in config.sys with that driver name in it.  I was then able to
reboot,
but now I have no audio.

Does anyone know of a workaround, or am I going to have to
backout the entire fixpack?
--
Dale Erwin
Dallas, Texas

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From: [e-mail]                                 26-Oct-99 08:43:16
  To: All                                               26-Oct-99 10:18:02
Subj: Old DOS games too fast

From: [e-mail] (Edmond Dantes)

I just got the Ultima collection CD.  The first two run fine in DOS
boxes except
for one thing.  They are way too fast even when I use MOSLO at .1%.  I
can't slow
my machine at the hardware level.

I've tried to nest two MOSLO's with the command:

moslo /.1 moslo /.1 ultima.exe

to no avial.

I get the automatic help screen from MOSLO when I do this.

It looks like MOSLO is interperating it as an incorrect parameter
string instead
if nesting.

Are there any kinds of grouping symbols I can use to fix it?


Edmond Dantes
phydeaux(the 'at' thing)home.com

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From: [e-mail]                                26-Oct-99 13:18:04
  To: All                                               26-Oct-99 10:18:02
Subj: Re: Is my blood boiling...

From: "OS/2 Fan" <[e-mail]>

I know the feeling.  My ISP provides documentation in .doc format, a
dialer, login scipt for PPP, and a browser, all of them horrific
Mickeysoft rubbish.  I tried calling them and got a busy signal,
thought, "Great, welcome to Hellenistan" and gave up.  I ended up
guessing some setting and my OS/2 and Linux dialers did the rest,
luckily.  I can't stand the all-Billy crap!


On Mon, 25 Oct 1999 22:36:28 -0400, [e-mail] wrote:

>It was a simple discovery.  I found a web site that has better prices on
>warranteed used computer equipment than any place I had ever seen.  In short
>order I selected a couple items I need for my parents' computer.  Click!  I
told
>the system to put an $11 dollar desktop case with a 250 watt PS into my
shopping
>cart.  There the joy ended.
>
>To make a long story short, you don't buy stuff on this site unless you are
>running Microsoft's Explorer!  The sales manager there now has a very clear
>understanding of my feelings about that. <G>  To be sure, he offered to call
me
>long distance to take my order.  My response was that he should standardize
his
>site.
>
>My business goes elsewhere.
>
>Jim L
>Remove XX from address to Email
>Crooks and kooks will get guns regardless of laws.
>
>

Regards,
Xtralarge OS/2 fan

Opinions expressed are mine only.  Ignore them and
killfile me.  Leave the University and/or my ISP alone,
I don't speak for them, they have nothing to do with it,
and they probably have more lawyers than you anyway.


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From: [e-mail]                          26-Oct-99 18:31:16
  To: All                                               26-Oct-99 10:18:02
Subj: Re: Stuck - LS120

From: "Wayne Bickell" <[e-mail]>

On 26 Oct 1999 00:09:02 GMT, William Sonna wrote:

:>On Mon, 25 Oct 1999 23:31:51, [e-mail] wrote:
:>
:>>
:>> Warp 4 fixpack 11 - 8.4Meg Hard drive (so right drivers are there?).
:>> OS2 doesn't find the LS120 drive (either slave or master - I won't be
:>> caught twice by that).  Naturally works fine under NT on same machine.
:>>
:>> This is a tad frustrating. I would welcome ideas/answers.
:>>
:>> Patrick
:>
:>I had the sane problem.
:>
:>Put: "basedev=IBMATAPI.FLT" in your config.sys file.
:>
:>I won't lie to you and say it works very well, but it is at least
:>tolerable from the command line.  It does work quite q bit better on
:>Win '98.  But then, you've got to use Win '98.
:>
:>Good Luck

Just saw on Hobbes/incoming a replacement ibmatapi.flt from
the author of danis506. Could be worth a try.

Cheers

Wayne


******************************************************
Wayne Bickell
Tokyo, Japan
[e-mail]
******************************************************
           Posted with PMINews 2 for OS/2
  Running on OS/2 Warp 4 (UK)  + FixPak 9
******************************************************



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From: [e-mail]                        26-Oct-99 05:39:02
  To: All                                               26-Oct-99 10:18:02
Subj: Re: Fdisk and 3rd hard drive

From: David Gillespie <[e-mail]>

<!doctype html public "-//w3c//dtd html 4.0 transitional//en">
<html>

<br>RCW wrote:
<blockquote TYPE=CITE>Do you have the latest HD driver?  The one that
comes with the
<br>installation discs won't work with a large drive.
<p>RCW</blockquote>
I have the one dated 7-12-99 and it is on my install disks.  I think
my system is just to old.  The last update for the system Bios was
Jan. 96, nothing newer.
<p>David</html>

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From: [e-mail]                               26-Oct-99 00:59:01
  To: All                                               26-Oct-99 14:37:12
Subj: Re: Instructions: How To Build An OS/2 Computer

From: [e-mail]

In article <[e-mail]>,
  [e-mail] (Don Hills) wrote:

> In article <7v0715$3d9$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] wrote:

> >And most importantly many are missing the point.  I don't
> >want to call a hardware manufacturer and pay them to put
> >together a machine that I could build for probably 1/4 the
> >cost they will charge me - whether it be Dell or IB.  I
> >would like the ability to go to a web site and follow a set
> >of step-by-step instructions for building my own top-notch
> >OS/2 machine.  From start to finish. ...
>
> Jeff, you're maybe missing the point yourself. You're a student, you
> should know how much it costs to learn things. Hardware manufacturers
> have to learn what parts work well together and which are best for a
> given job. They then add the cost of doing this to the price of their
> systems. It's called R & D...
>
> So sure, someone could build a Web site such as you described.
> But site builder would first have to spend a lot of time and
> effort (=money) collecting and collating information,

If that "someone" is a computer fan who wants to help other
computer fans then the time, effort (=money), collection
and collating of information is done for the satisfaction
he gets from putting it all together and knowing he is
helping others.  Every webmaster sitting behind a free
web site, even those web sites that receive ad money to
pay for their fixed web costs, offers the site for self
satisfaction and personal enjoyment.  They do it because
they want to help others.

> and buying and testing hardware.

Why would the webmaster be required to buy and test hardware
when there are thousands of people building their own computers
every day?  All he has to do is reach out for the information.
Taking a few hours to search through Deja News for the best
or most compatible sound card for OS/2 is free, no testing or
buying of such hardware is needed because that has been done
by others.

> In other words, R & D. You can bet it wouldn't be a free access site.

And here you are dead wrong.  I spent some time last evening
looking about the web and guess what?  I found the site.  It
is at:

http://www.verinet.com/pc/

And get this: the web master even recommends OS/2 Warp as an
operating system to install on your newly built machine (among
other non-MS operating systems).  The site tells you how to
decide on the system you want to build, where to buy the parts
at the best possible and lowest prices and ties it all together
with step-by-step building instructions, from start to finish.
Did I mention the site is free?

Life is good, isn't it?

Jeff



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From: [e-mail]                                26-Oct-99 10:30:22
  To: All                                               26-Oct-99 14:37:12
Subj: Re: Deep trouble

From: [e-mail]

No more help needed. It turns out that my resolv file had an
allocation error, it's now been corrected by CHKDSK! I could thank
myself, but i think i thank God too, that's pretty much everyone:-)

-
Magnus Olsson

"Nothing in the affairs of men is worthy of great anxiety."
 - Plato

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From: [e-mail]                               26-Oct-99 13:32:15
  To: All                                               26-Oct-99 14:37:12
Subj: Re: Is my blood boiling...

From: [e-mail] (Esther Schindler)

On Tue, 26 Oct 1999 12:59:04, "Jeff D. Roesner" <[e-mail]>
wrote:

| My ISP caters to Windows users, and I used iLink/2 and called and watched
| the conversation between iLink/2 and my ISP, and finally came up with a
| script.  I then wrote them an OS/2 support page.
|
| Now I just need to make the InJoy version of the page...

How nice of you! <<warm, appreciative smile>>

Most of the ISP's customers won't think to say "Thank You," so I'll
say it on their behalf.

--Esther


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From: [e-mail]                    26-Oct-99 08:06:11
  To: All                                               26-Oct-99 14:37:12
Subj: Re: FP12 - Trap 00d

From: "Graham C. Norris" <[e-mail]>

Still whining about SDD in irrelevant places I see.

Graham.

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From: [e-mail]                           26-Oct-99 16:26:24
  To: All                                               26-Oct-99 16:34:06
Subj: Re: Warp Server not able to get available memory

From: [e-mail] (Lorne Sunley)

This isn't much of an idea, and you probably have tried it, but
here it is anyway (actually it's a question), have you determined
what the break point is in allocating larger buffer pools,
like 32 MByte, 64 MByte etc?

My test and development system is running WSeB and DB2 v6.1
(on a crummy 128 MByte RAM) so I can't even make an attempt
to see if the large pool allocation failure happens.

Lorne Sunley

On Tue, 26 Oct 1999 15:39:01, [e-mail] wrote:

> Thanks, Scott and Lorne.  We have an OS/2 guru of sorts who helped us
> configure HPFS386 to use an optimal cache size.
>
> But the problem isn't that we're running out of available memory - it's
> that DB2 isn't using it.  Memstat is sitting there telling us we have
> 429 MB of available RAM (after DB2 startup, HPFS cache allocation,
> etc), but we take the same configuration and ask for a total of 50,000
> pages (200 MB) of bufferpool and we don't get it.  If we run this
> configuration under Warp workstation, it works just fine.
>
> It's like Warp Server is limiting the amount of memory it'll give to
> running programs.
>
> Any ideas?
>
> In article <[e-mail]>,
>   "Scott E. Garfinkle" <[e-mail]> wrote:
> > On Mon, 25 Oct 1999 18:07:04 GMT, Lorne Sunley wrote:
> >
> > >> Is there a known problem with Warp Server making large (e.g., > 64
> > >> MB)
> > >> > > of memory available to programs, such as DB2?
> > Lorne is right -- it's probably hpfs386. In hpfs386.ini, add a line
> that
> > reads
> >    maxheap=2048
> > Also, if you're running commserver, look for a line in config.sys
> that looks
> > like
> >    DEVICE=C:\CMLIB\CMKFMDE.SYS
> > If you find it, change it to look like
> >    DEVICE=C:\CMLIB\CMKFMDE.SYS  /lsl=2m
> > If this works, try 8m for better performance and see whether it still
> works.
> >
> >
>
>
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From: [e-mail]                             26-Oct-99 13:02:07
  To: All                                               26-Oct-99 16:34:06
Subj: Re: Warp Server not able to get available memory

From: "Scott E. Garfinkle" <[e-mail]>

On Tue, 26 Oct 1999 15:39:01 GMT, [e-mail] wrote:

>But the problem isn't that we're running out of available memory - it's
>that DB2 isn't using it.  Memstat is sitting there telling us we have
>429 MB of available RAM (after DB2 startup, HPFS cache allocation,
I guarantee you that it IS a case of memory allocation, somehow. Please check
the
parameters I suggested. I doubt that memstat is telling you anything
meaningful.


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From: [e-mail]                      26-Oct-99 15:49:17
  To: All                                               26-Oct-99 16:34:06
Subj: Re: Interesting TrueType tid-bit...

From: [e-mail]

In article <[e-mail]>,
  "Jaime A. Cruz, Jr." <[e-mail]> wrote:

> I tried it on Win98.  No *.TTF files at all on that system.  Check a
> *.FOT file, though, and found "Windows! Windows! Windows!" inside of
> it.  Guess someone at Redmond woke up and found the string everyone
> is talking about and decided to do something about it.  Haven't tried
> it on WinNT yet... if I remember I'll try it at the office today.

Win9X, and probably NT too, likes to pretend that fonts are something
besides a file on your drive.

Try:
Start->Run command.com
dir /s /a /p *.ttf

They're probably in c:\windows\fonts\
You'll need a hexeditor or use edit.com in a DOS-box.

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From: [e-mail]                      26-Oct-99 15:46:02
  To: All                                               26-Oct-99 16:34:06
Subj: Re: Interesting TrueType tid-bit...

From: [e-mail]

In article <[e-mail]>,
  "Wayne Bickell" <[e-mail]> wrote:

> I see it, right at the top of the file. So? :-)
>
> Excuse me if I'm thick.

When was TrueType developed? Late 80's, right? When did OS/2 get
built-in TrueType support? With Warp4 in '96, right?

Makes me wonder just what the heck was going on! :)

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From: [e-mail]                                     26-Oct-99 16:01:27
  To: All                                               26-Oct-99 16:34:06
Subj: Re: java icq & ibm lava 1.1.8

From: [e-mail] (Don Morse)

In message <3810de7c$1$feq$[e-mail]> - Steve Drewell
<[e-mail]> writes:
:>
:>On Fri, 22 Oct 1999 at 13:36 (PDT), "Rodney D. Myers"
:><[e-mail]> wrote:
:>
:>>is anyone experiencing trouble getting icq (java) to run with ibm java
:>>1.1.8?
:>
:>>it was working before I upgraded to 1.1.8. now I don't get anything.
:>
:>
:>I can get it to work, but on exit my machine totally locks up and requires
:>a reboot. It never locked up with 1.1.7, but more than a few things have
:>changed on my machine recently so I can't say whether the problem lies
:>with 1.1.8 (with the latest fixes) or not.
:>
:>Cheers,
:>Steve
:>--
:>Steve Drewell             (Remove x. from address to reply)
:>_____________________________________________________________
:>Using IBM OS/2 Warp 4 running 27 processes with 140 threads.
:>Machine uptime is 2 days, 22 hours, 45 mins and 8 secs.
:>_____________________________________________________________
:>
:>


Just loaded, messaged, and closed down ICQJava here with 1.1.8 and the latest
Java fixpacks installed.  No problem.  Did it with this message window open
to email the results....  The results you're describing are more like the
"chat" results...  it still doesn't work properly.

Warp 4, fp12
Java 1.1.8 and latest fp's
Matrox Mystique with 2.31.1 driver
OD 2.0
Styler/2 1.02


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From: [e-mail]                      26-Oct-99 15:56:04
  To: All                                               26-Oct-99 16:34:06
Subj: Re: Old DOS games too fast

From: [e-mail]

In article
<[e-mail]>,
  [e-mail] (Edmond Dantes) wrote:

> I just got the Ultima collection CD.  The first two run fine in DOS
> boxes except for one thing.  They are way too fast even when I use
> MOSLO at .1%.  I can't slow my machine at the hardware level.
>
> I've tried to nest two MOSLO's with the command:
>
> moslo /.1 moslo /.1 ultima.exe
>
> to no avial.
>
> I get the automatic help screen from MOSLO when I do this.
>
> It looks like MOSLO is interperating it as an incorrect parameter
> string instead
> if nesting.

No. The real problem here is MoSlo's algorhthyms(sp). You're probably
running at least a Pentium, right? Well most "586" and above level CPUs
have the ability to optimize-out repetative instructions. So when MoSlo
runs, the first couple of loops really do slow down the CPU, but then
the CPU's logic sees that it's the same thing every loop, and just
stores the results somewhere to spit up without even executing the
loop.

Or so I've been told... :)

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From: [e-mail]                                     26-Oct-99 16:40:22
  To: All                                               26-Oct-99 16:34:06
Subj: Re: Interesting TrueType tid-bit...

From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Bj=F8rn?= Vermo <[e-mail]>

[e-mail] wrote:

> In article <SKfw30zmCGmZ-pn2-snfveFEx6R6L@localhost>,
>   doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net (Doug Bissett) wrote:
>
> > I am not sure what you find so "interesting".
>
> HexEdit (or open in e.exe) any .TTF file, and look for some familiar
> text... You may recognize it as the name of an IBM made PC Operating
> system.
>
> I've done this on Win95 machines too. Very interesting to say the least.
>

Nothing mysterious about it. Just check the specification:

OS/2 - OS/2 and Windows Metrics
The OS/2 table consists of a set of metrics that are required in OpenType
fonts. There are two   versions of this table, the second version having
five additional fields: sxHeight, sCapHeight, usDefaultChar, usBreakChar,
usMaxContext.

The name of the table (i.e. the keyword you search for to find it) is OS/2.
This is a table Windows needs, so it obviously has to be present in Windows
font files.

I suppose the table was named at a time when everybody believed Windows
would soon disappear.


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From: [e-mail]                                     26-Oct-99 16:57:16
  To: All                                               26-Oct-99 16:34:06
Subj: Re: Floppies/Utilities again

From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Bj=F8rn?= Vermo <[e-mail]>

Doug Bissett wrote:

> ...
> which means they are a "boot anywhere" setup. They put all of the
> drivers on the diskettes, and use sniffers to determine which ones to
> use (not a very good approach, IMO).
>

Scenario: Your computer emits a cloud of smoke and goes down. A defective
power supply
has fried your SCSI adapter, which is of a type no longer available. You
replace it,
and try to boot from your emergency diskettes in order to install the new
drivers to
the boot disk and edit your config.sys. Unfortunately, the utility which
created the
emergency diskettes did not put in any "unneccessary" device drivers...

Except for the last sentence, I have seen this happen. I like the IBM
philosophy of
not taking any chances. You can customize what goes on the diskettes - it is
somewhere
in the CID documentation. Remove drivers for some obviously non-critical
device type,
but not for anything you might need after some unlikely event.


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From: [e-mail]                                     26-Oct-99 17:47:29
  To: All                                               26-Oct-99 16:34:06
Subj: Re: Instructions: How To Build An OS/2 Computer

From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Bj=F8rn?= Vermo <[e-mail]>

Martin Nisshagen wrote:

>
> However, in some cases you can save a lot of money. This especially if you
are
> willing to tweak the components. In my own case I build a dirt cheap dual
> processor system who would have costed me at least 3x times as much as a
> supported machine with the same performance from vendors like IBM or HP.
>

This, of course, is true. Compared to brand name, you can build something with
the
same performance (in the areas of importance to you) cheaper. However,
depending on
the local competition between small system integrators, is is not unlikely
that they
will sell it ready-made for about the same price you can build it for, given
the
same kind of corner cutting.

One of the cheapest parts mail order/retailers here will assemle it for free
if you
buy parts for NOK 10000. That is, of course, a bit more than the retail price
for an
IBM PC-330GL with OS/2 preload...




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From: [e-mail]                                26-Oct-99 14:01:08
  To: All                                               26-Oct-99 16:34:06
Subj: Re: Bootos2 options

From: [e-mail]

If they are command line parameters WHY the *%$@#%(^&^@#$%%R&*)
(&^*&^@^&#*&^$#^&&^$%#*(^&&^%^$#^%$#$%*((&$#$^&%$(*&%*^%#^#(*&%*^%$&$%^(*&)(*&^
(*&^%$)(&^&(*#$@#&*_)^*%%#%$(*&((*^%&^*_)((&*)&*%(*&#$$*(*&$#@$#&^%^%#&&*(^$#$#
@&^@*(&^*^%##$*(*&^*^%#$
don't the docs SAY SO?

>But aren't they only command-line parameters? I don't recall any interactive
>options.

>> In the Bootos2 docs there is a long list of options.  But when I run
Bootos2 I
>> never get a chance to select any options.  It just takes off making a run.
What
>> on earth is going on?

Jim L
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From: [e-mail]                                  26-Oct-99 15:46:26
  To: All                                               26-Oct-99 20:25:01
Subj: Re: Warp Server not able to get available memory

From: "Michael K Greene" <[e-mail]>

On Mon, 25 Oct 1999 13:53:58 GMT, [e-mail] wrote:

>When we installed Warp 4.0 workstation on the same PC with the same
>database version, the problem went away and it all worked fine.
>
>Is there a known problem with Warp Server making large (e.g., > 64 MB)
>of memory available to programs, such as DB2?

I'm not a Lan Server expert, but I found this a bit back and maybe it is an
option. If not it would allow you to down to the Warp 3 base.

http://www.sbt.net.au/sbt/WServeronW4/0000fm.htm

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From: [e-mail]                             26-Oct-99 14:31:09
  To: All                                               26-Oct-99 20:25:02
Subj: Re: Bootos2 options

From: Alan Beagley <[e-mail]>

I thought it was clear from the examples that were given in the docs. that hey
were command-line parameters.

Alan


[e-mail] wrote:

> If they are command line parameters WHY the *%$@#%(^&^@#$%%R&*)
>
(&^*&^@^&#*&^$#^&&^$%#*(^&&^%^$#^%$#$%*((&$#$^&%$(*&%*^%#^#(*&%*^%$&$%^(*&)(*&^
(*&^%$)(&^&(*#$@#&*_)^*%%#%$(*&((*^%&^*_)((&*)&*%(*&#$$*(*&$#@$#&^%^%#&&*(^$#$#
@&^@*(&^*^%##$*(*&^*^%#$
> don't the docs SAY SO?
>
> >But aren't they only command-line parameters? I don't recall any
interactive
> >options.
>
> >> In the Bootos2 docs there is a long list of options.  But when I run
Bootos2 I
> >> never get a chance to select any options.  It just takes off making a
run.  What
> >> on earth is going on?
>
> Jim L
> Remove XX from address to Email
> Crooks and kooks will get guns regardless of laws.

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From: [e-mail]                                  26-Oct-99 17:45:00
  To: All                                               26-Oct-99 20:25:02
Subj: Re: Interesting TrueType tid-bit...

From: [e-mail]

In article <7uvlpg$nur$[e-mail]>,
  [e-mail] wrote:
>
>
> Hmmmm... Hex-edit (or just open in e.exe) a TrueType Font file...
>
> Anyone else see some interesting text in there? :)
>
> I've checked some TTF files on other people's computers, and it's the
> same thing. Fonts that OS/2 doesn't even know I have, also have this.
>
> What the heck is up with that??

Funny, really!

I went to "Wotsit" (http://www.wotsit.org) to look for a specification
of the ttf format and I really found a document describing it:

- First 12 Bytes are the "offset table"

- Then comes the tables directory, each entry starting with a 4 byte
table name with 12 bytes extra info appended. Some tables seem to be
mandatory, others optional.

This is a citation from the M$ document:

""
Required Tables
Tag    Name
cmap    character to glyph mapping
glyf    glyph data
head    font header
hhea    horizontal header
hmtx    horizontal metrics
loca    index to location
maxp    maximum profile
name    naming table
post    PostScript information
OS/2    OS/2 and Windows specific metrics
""

...so it really HAS to be there!!?

Greetings,
Cornelis

>
> --
> -Steven Hunter               *OS/2 Warp 4 * |
> [e-mail] *AMD K6-2 400* |
>
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>


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From: [e-mail]                                26-Oct-99 14:05:24
  To: All                                               26-Oct-99 20:25:02
Subj: Re: Floppies/Utilities again

From: [e-mail]

I guess it would FLAT OUT KILL THEM to fix the code so it would use more disks
to hold the increases size of files.

Bj rn Vermo <[e-mail]> said:

> try to boot from your emergency diskettes in order to install the new
drivers
>to the boot disk and edit your config.sys. Unfortunately, the utility which
>created the emergency diskettes did not put in any "unneccessary" device
>drivers...

>Except for the last sentence, I have seen this happen. I like the IBM
>philosophy of not taking any chances. You can customize what goes on the
>diskettes - it is somewhere in the CID documentation. Remove drivers for some
>obviously non-critical device type, but not for anything you might need after
>some unlikely event.

Jim L
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From: [e-mail]                             26-Oct-99 13:01:04
  To: All                                               26-Oct-99 20:25:02
Subj: Re: GAH! Got a Trap error on our print server! Help!

From: "Scott E. Garfinkle" <[e-mail]>

os2ddpak: http://service.software.ibm.com/os2ddpak/   -- follow the links
into DASD drivers and then to your particular driver. You should end up
downloading 7800fam.exe (I think). You can easily see what IRQ your adaptec
is using using "rmview /IRQ". Many LAN drivers do not, however, register with
RMVIEW, so it's hard to say. It's the sort of thing you have to mess around a
lot with in BIOS, etc., as I gather you know. I have seen many occasions
where adaptec cards are sharing an IRQ with a network card. This is allowed
by PCI spec -- it's just a question of the drivers and firmware.... Why it
used to work and not now? Beats me. Maybe something changed on your LAN.
Also, I forget whether you said your printer was attached locally or not. If
it is, you should add "/IRQ" to your print01.sys line.  I hope this is more
helpful.


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From: [e-mail]                                26-Oct-99 13:08:08
  To: All                                               26-Oct-99 20:25:02
Subj: Re: FP12 - Trap 00d

From: Dale Erwin <[e-mail]>


[e-mail] wrote:

> Dale Erwin wrote:
>
>   I just installed FP12 today, then when I tried to reboot, I got the
>   following trap:
>   ------------------------------
>   Exception in Device Driver:  ES18691$
>   Trap 00d              ERRCE=0084    ERRAC=****       ERLIM=********
>   EAX=fde20084   EBX=ffff0000    ECX=00004e88    EDX=00000000
>   ESI=9692001e    EDI=00000291    EBP=00004eaa    FLG=00213246
>   CS:EIP=2ae0:00004260    CSACC=0096    CSLIM=000068d0
>   SS:ESP=0030:00004ea6    SSACC=1097    SSLIM=00003fff
>   DS=2ad8    DSACC=0093    DSLIM=00002bf0    CR0=8001001b
>   ES=2ad8    ESACC=0093    ESLIM=00002bf0    CR2=ffe1813a
>   FS=0000    FSACC=****    FLSIM=********
>   GS=0000    GSACC=****    GSLIM=********
>   The system detected an internal processing error at
>   location ##0168:fff4832e - 0000:c32e.
>   600000, 9084
>   05860570
>   Internal Revision 9.036, 99/07/20
>   The system is stopped.  Record all of the above
>   information and contact your service representative.
>   ------------------------------
>   Seems that I have heard it said before that not much of this
>   information is beneficial to determining the cause of the trouble.
>   I am sure the first line is important though.  After several
>   unsuccessful tries to reboot, I booted from Utility disks and REMed
>   out the two lines in config.sys with that driver name in it.  I was
>   then able to reboot, but now I have no audio.
>
>   Does anyone know of a workaround, or am I going to have to
>   backout the entire fixpack?
>   --
>   Dale Erwin
>   Dallas, Texas
>
> Yes, I can tell you.  I suffered through this problem again and
> again while trying to bring my system back to a useable state
> after trying a poor beta program  called SciDisplay Doctor.
> I tried all of the available updates, including the updated driver from
> the ESS site itself and the driver from that Indelible Blue guy's site
> and still failed.  And then some kind soul named Osmo told me to
> go here:
>
> http://service.software.ibm.com/os2ddpak/html/2632ADD962A12DA3852561B20
> 04F42F4.html
>
> and download IBM's version of the ESS drivers.  You need to copy all
> the files over to a floppy because the install program works only from
> the A: drive but once the menu comes up, I told it to use the files
> (which I had copied over to the A: drive floppy) found in the original
> temp directory where I first unzipped them.  Don't know why but that
> worked.  I don't have WinOS/2 on my system so I didn't bother with the
> WinOS/2 driver, just the straight ess1688 driver.  This version brought
> my sound system back to normal.
>
> Hope it works for you.
>
> Jeff
>
> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> Before you buy.

Thanks for the reply, Jeff.  I'm just wondering, though, since you say this

is the ES1688 driver and I need the ES1869 driver if this is really the
correct driver.  IBM does have another entry on that site for the ES1869
device, but the driver is not mainained by them but by ESS.  I looked at
their site, too, and I don't find anything specific toOS/2.  Is it possible
that
the ES1688 driver could be used on the ES1869 device?

As long as it took me to get my computer running again last night, I am a
little gun-shy to just try it.

Suggestions anyone?
--
Dale Erwin
Dallas, Texas

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From: [e-mail]                        26-Oct-99 14:47:25
  To: All                                               26-Oct-99 20:25:02
Subj: Re: Fdisk and 3rd hard drive

From: David Gillespie <[e-mail]>

<!doctype html public "-//w3c//dtd html 4.0 transitional//en">
<html>
No, sorry.  I am new at posting to news groups.  I do NOT see
the tags  when I look at the message I posted.  But I do see
them in yours.  What is going on?
<p>Stan Goodman wrote:
<blockquote TYPE=CITE>Do you feel that the HTML tags add something important
or interesting to
<br>your postings?
<p>On Tue, 26 Oct 1999 10:31:21, David Gillespie
<[e-mail]>
<br>wrote:
<br>-------------
<br>Stan Goodman
<br>Qiryat Tiv'on
<br>Israel</blockquote>
</html>

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From: [e-mail]                         27-Oct-99 07:56:21
  To: All                                               26-Oct-99 20:25:02
Subj: Re: Stuck - LS120

From: Craig Benbow <[e-mail]>

I had similar troubles and still don't know what exactly it was that fixed
it.
Have you got the latest drivers down from the device drivers pack and
installed them?
There are continual improvements going on in the removable media arena so
keep an eye out for the new drivers as they become available.
BTW I am on FP 12 so I'm not sure what is broken in FP11.
Apparently there are some parameters that can be set on the IBMATAPI.FLT as
well but I haven't found a list yet.  If you look at hte file you can see
where they are parsed but no explanations go with.

Craig

William Sonna wrote:

> On Mon, 25 Oct 1999 23:31:51, [e-mail] wrote:
>
> >
> > Warp 4 fixpack 11 - 8.4Meg Hard drive (so right drivers are there?).
> > OS2 doesn't find the LS120 drive (either slave or master - I won't be
> > caught twice by that).  Naturally works fine under NT on same machine.
> >
> > This is a tad frustrating. I would welcome ideas/answers.
> >
> > Patrick
>
> I had the sane problem.
>
> Put: "basedev=IBMATAPI.FLT" in your config.sys file.
>
> I won't lie to you and say it works very well, but it is at least
> tolerable from the command line.  It does work quite q bit better on
> Win '98.  But then, you've got to use Win '98.
>
> Good Luck

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From: [e-mail]                              26-Oct-99 14:34:28
  To: All                                               26-Oct-99 20:25:02
Subj: Re: Is my blood boiling...

From: "Jeff D. Roesner" <[e-mail]>

<[e-mail]> wrote in message
news:3815d5d3$4$yvsrqngn$[e-mail]...

> I didn't get a thank you from my ISP.  Nor would they even USE the support
stuff
> I offered.

I have the good fortune of having a system administrator with a past that
includes OS/2.  He used to run a PCBoard BBS under OS/2, so he does still
have some feelings for OS/2.  Now he's a FreeBSD freak...but he still says
OS/2 is a great system...

Reminds me of a story about him that I have to share...

Another friend of mine had a Warp 3 installation, and he had this one app
that would cause his system to crash.  Everytime he rebooted, the rogue app
would start up again, disabling the system.  The desktop couldn't even load.
So after some head scratching we called in Jim (my ISP's sysadmin).

Jim comes over and takes a look at it.  He sat down in the easy chair in the
back of the room, started to rub his temples (I thought the temple rubbing
was weird) and then began to speak...

"Put in your config.sys SET...

SET RESTART...

RESTARTOBJECTS EQUAL STARTUPFOLDER....

No, STARTUPFOLDERS...

STARTUPFOLDERSONLY."

We fixed the config.sys (using DOS, as his OS/2 install was on a FAT
partition) and it took care of the problem.  What really freaked me out was
he rubbed his temples the whole time he was telling us what to put in the
config.sys!

He bailed us out of that one, and it's a story that still amazes me.

I'm glad he's my sysadmin for my ISP...


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From: [e-mail]                 26-Oct-99 16:01:06
  To: All                                               26-Oct-99 20:25:02
Subj: Re: FP12 - Trap 00d

From: [e-mail] (Raphael Tennenbaum)

Dale Erwin <[e-mail]> wrote:

>
>
>[e-mail] wrote:
>
>> Dale Erwin wrote:
>>
>>   I just installed FP12 today, then when I tried to reboot, I got the
>>   following trap:
>>   ------------------------------
>>   Exception in Device Driver:  ES18691$
>>   Trap 00d              ERRCE=0084    ERRAC=****       ERLIM=********
>>   EAX=fde20084   EBX=ffff0000    ECX=00004e88    EDX=00000000
>>   ESI=9692001e    EDI=00000291    EBP=00004eaa    FLG=00213246
>>   CS:EIP=2ae0:00004260    CSACC=0096    CSLIM=000068d0
>>   SS:ESP=0030:00004ea6    SSACC=1097    SSLIM=00003fff
>>   DS=2ad8    DSACC=0093    DSLIM=00002bf0    CR0=8001001b
>>   ES=2ad8    ESACC=0093    ESLIM=00002bf0    CR2=ffe1813a
>>   FS=0000    FSACC=****    FLSIM=********
>>   GS=0000    GSACC=****    GSLIM=********
>>   The system detected an internal processing error at
>>   location ##0168:fff4832e - 0000:c32e.
>>   600000, 9084
>>   05860570
>>   Internal Revision 9.036, 99/07/20
>>   The system is stopped.  Record all of the above
>>   information and contact your service representative.
>>   ------------------------------
>>   Seems that I have heard it said before that not much of this
>>   information is beneficial to determining the cause of the trouble.
>>   I am sure the first line is important though.  After several
>>   unsuccessful tries to reboot, I booted from Utility disks and REMed
>>   out the two lines in config.sys with that driver name in it.  I was
>>   then able to reboot, but now I have no audio.
>>
>>   Does anyone know of a workaround, or am I going to have to
>>   backout the entire fixpack?
>>   --
>>   Dale Erwin
>>   Dallas, Texas
>>
>> Yes, I can tell you.  I suffered through this problem again and
>> again while trying to bring my system back to a useable state
>> after trying a poor beta program  called SciDisplay Doctor.
>> I tried all of the available updates, including the updated driver from
>> the ESS site itself and the driver from that Indelible Blue guy's site
>> and still failed.  And then some kind soul named Osmo told me to
>> go here:
>>
>> http://service.software.ibm.com/os2ddpak/html/2632ADD962A12DA3852561B20
>> 04F42F4.html
>>
>> and download IBM's version of the ESS drivers.  You need to copy all
>> the files over to a floppy because the install program works only from
>> the A: drive but once the menu comes up, I told it to use the files
>> (which I had copied over to the A: drive floppy) found in the original
>> temp directory where I first unzipped them.  Don't know why but that
>> worked.  I don't have WinOS/2 on my system so I didn't bother with the
>> WinOS/2 driver, just the straight ess1688 driver.  This version brought
>> my sound system back to normal.
>>
>> Hope it works for you.
>>
>> Jeff
>>
>> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
>> Before you buy.
>
>Thanks for the reply, Jeff.  I'm just wondering, though, since you say this
>
>is the ES1688 driver and I need the ES1869 driver if this is really the
>correct driver.  IBM does have another entry on that site for the ES1869
>device, but the driver is not mainained by them but by ESS.  I looked at
>their site, too, and I don't find anything specific toOS/2.  Is it possible
>that
>the ES1688 driver could be used on the ES1869 device?
>
>As long as it took me to get my computer running again last night, I am a
>little gun-shy to just try it.
>
>Suggestions anyone?
>--
>Dale Erwin
>Dallas, Texas
>

It's possible that those drivers would have worked, but --
I've got an 1869 ESS as well, but I remmed out the drivers
before adding FP12, and then once I was satisfied as to its
stability, I deleted the lines and then hastened to this
page of Duane Chamblee's fine OS/2 "subsite" at Indelible
Blue:

    http://duanec.indelible-blue.com/fixes/LatestWarp4.html

and read the links pertaining to ESS cards.  I ended up
downloading 1869215a.zip and installing it, and it works
great.


--
Ray Tennenbaum        '99 YZF-R6
readme@ http://www.ray-field.com

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From: [e-mail]                                26-Oct-99 16:33:11
  To: All                                               26-Oct-99 20:25:02
Subj: Re: Bootos2 options

From: [e-mail]

Alan Beagley <[e-mail]> said:

>I thought it was clear from the examples that were given in the docs. that
hey
>were command-line parameters.

Well, after some head scratching I figure you must mean where it says Syntax
then shows a list that looks like a config.sys or something.

Gads, every command line program I've used (and I avoid tham as a rule) at
LEAST
puts such things under the heading of - could you believe this even if you
tried...:

Command Line Paramaeters.

I HATE -  H A T E  it when documentations writers assume you know what they
are
talking about.  Documentation is supposed to TELL you.  Unless, of course, you
only WANT experts to use the software in the first place.  Same old story.
Programmers writing for programmers instead of writing for program users.

Grrrrrrrr.

Jim L
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Crooks and kooks will get guns regardless of laws.


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From: [e-mail]                        26-Oct-99 20:58:07
  To: All                                               26-Oct-99 20:25:02
Subj: Re: partition magic for os/2

From: [e-mail]

I used version 4 to set up this 8.4Gig hard drive, with bootmanager os2
and NT, copying from a 1Gig.  There was some problem with PM not
agreeing with OS2 over the disk format, but in the end there was
something wrong.  I had to run chkdsk from an os2 blue screen after
booting from floppy, to tidy everything up.  Then  I ran PQmagic from
floppy after booting a DOS disk.  It comes up with the graphics and
handles HPFS fine.

I think in moving to the US temporarily I may have got some settings
wrong (took a box of bits with me!).  In the end I reinstalled OS2 and
things are running really well now (except my LS120!).  I couldn't
reinstall NT as I did not have the CD with me - but its fine.  WOuld I
buy it again? Probably not - the license is really restrictive and it's
expensive.

Hope that is helpful.

Patrick

John Thompson wrote:
>
> In <[e-mail]>, Dale
Erwin <[e-mail]> writes:
>
> >It seems that not having an OS/2 executable is not the only drawback
> >to version 4.  According to another poster, Sushenjit Bandyopadhyay,
> >the DOS version lacks some capabilities with HPFS partitions and I
> >do NOT have Win32 on my machine, nor am I likely to ever have it.
>
> I haven't seen this problem.  Just a couple weeks ago I used the
> DOS Partition Magic to resize and move my HPFS and ext2
> partitions on my second HD to make room for another bootable HPFS
> partition.  It went just fine.
>
> -John ([e-mail])

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From: [e-mail]                               26-Oct-99 12:43:27
  To: All                                               26-Oct-99 20:25:02
Subj: Re: Help - OS2 boot procedure

From: [e-mail]

Yes, it was the graphics card driver. Reset to VGA did it. Thanks for
all the replies.

Tipu


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From: [e-mail]                                26-Oct-99 16:28:16
  To: All                                               26-Oct-99 20:25:02
Subj: 4.61 doing reload again.

From: [e-mail]

I just had another opportunity to save an HTM page twice.  4.61 GA reloads the
page the second and third times.  I didn't try a third time.

I checked and the page is definitely IN the cache.  It is a large page.
Perhaps
smaller ones don't do that.  I'll check.

Jim L
Remove XX from address to Email
Crooks and kooks will get guns regardless of laws.


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From: [e-mail]                 26-Oct-99 16:40:16
  To: All                                               26-Oct-99 20:25:02
Subj: Re: Fdisk and 3rd hard drive

From: [e-mail] (Raphael Tennenbaum)

David Gillespie <[e-mail]> wrote:

><!doctype html public "-//w3c//dtd html 4.0 transitional//en">
><html>
>No, sorry.  I am new at posting to news groups.  I do NOT see
>the tags  when I look at the message I posted.  But I do see
>them in yours.  What is going on?
><p>Stan Goodman wrote:
><blockquote TYPE=CITE>Do you feel that the HTML tags add something important
>or interesting to
><br>your postings?
><p>On Tue, 26 Oct 1999 10:31:21, David Gillespie
<[e-mail]>
><br>wrote:
><br>-------------
><br>Stan Goodman
><br>Qiryat Tiv'on
><br>Israel


Select Edit/Preferences, expand "Mail & Newsgroups," select
Formatting: under Message formatting indicate "Use the plain
text editor to compose messages."

--
Ray Tennenbaum        '99 YZF-R6
readme@ http://www.ray-field.com

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From: [e-mail]                                     26-Oct-99 20:40:18
  To: All                                               26-Oct-99 21:24:08
Subj: Re: Warp Server not able to get available memory

From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Bj=F8rn?= Vermo <[e-mail]>

[e-mail] wrote:

> ...
> But the problem isn't that we're running out of available memory - it's
> that DB2 isn't using it.  Memstat is sitting there telling us we have
> 429 MB of available RAM (after DB2 startup, HPFS cache allocation,
> etc), but we take the same configuration and ask for a total of 50,000
> pages (200 MB) of bufferpool and we don't get it.  If we run this
> configuration under Warp workstation, it works just fine.
>
> It's like Warp Server is limiting the amount of memory it'll give to
> running programs.
>
> Any ideas?
>

It is a long time since I last installed DB/2 and I do not remember the
important issues, but maybe you should look at the install log? Perhaps
something did not go quite as it should, but still works on the client? A
tiny misplaced comma or semicolon in a config file or installation script?

Other ways to isolate the cause: Install the server software on the Warp 3
client where it works, but do not install 386 HPFS. Does this work? If yes,
install 386 HPFS. That should be identical to your server. If it works, you
have somehow removed the cause of the problem. If not, you have pinpointed
it.



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From: [e-mail]                         26-Oct-99 15:39:00
  To: All                                               26-Oct-99 21:24:09
Subj: Re: Warp Server not able to get available memory

From: [e-mail]

Thanks, Scott and Lorne.  We have an OS/2 guru of sorts who helped us
configure HPFS386 to use an optimal cache size.

But the problem isn't that we're running out of available memory - it's
that DB2 isn't using it.  Memstat is sitting there telling us we have
429 MB of available RAM (after DB2 startup, HPFS cache allocation,
etc), but we take the same configuration and ask for a total of 50,000
pages (200 MB) of bufferpool and we don't get it.  If we run this
configuration under Warp workstation, it works just fine.

It's like Warp Server is limiting the amount of memory it'll give to
running programs.

Any ideas?

In article <[e-mail]>,
  "Scott E. Garfinkle" <[e-mail]> wrote:
> On Mon, 25 Oct 1999 18:07:04 GMT, Lorne Sunley wrote:
>
> >> Is there a known problem with Warp Server making large (e.g., > 64
> >> MB)
> >> > > of memory available to programs, such as DB2?
> Lorne is right -- it's probably hpfs386. In hpfs386.ini, add a line
that
> reads
>    maxheap=2048
> Also, if you're running commserver, look for a line in config.sys
that looks
> like
>    DEVICE=C:\CMLIB\CMKFMDE.SYS
> If you find it, change it to look like
>    DEVICE=C:\CMLIB\CMKFMDE.SYS  /lsl=2m
> If this works, try 8m for better performance and see whether it still
works.
>
>


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From: [e-mail]                           26-Oct-99 22:34:22
  To: All                                               26-Oct-99 21:24:09
Subj: Re: Boot Failure

From: [e-mail] (Lorne Sunley)

Your machine has a installation of the "Warp Server for e-Business"
beta on it. There may be a time-out set in the code (I don't know if
this is
true or not).

That message usually is a result of the hard drive CHS (cylinder,
head, sector) values in the BIOS not matching the values that
the drive was formatted with and/or (in Warp 4 installs) the drive
specs being larger than the drive size the IDE disk driver can
handle (this is usually not true for WSeB). If you were able to
boot from this partition before then the WAG about disk specs
is a bad WAG.

The release version of Warp Server for e-Business is 14.039F

Lorne Sunley

On Tue, 26 Oct 1999 19:42:17, "Valheru" <[e-mail]>
wrote:

> I need some help. I have warp for e business internal rev 14.020f uni. It no
> longer boots up. I get to the splash screen and all of a sudden it beeps and
> I see the message that os/2 cannot control the hard disks or diskette
> drives, the system is stopped, correct the preceding error and continue.
> Now, I have a backup image of the drive from Norton Ghost but when I go to
> restore it I noticed that the free space on the target drive is now almost 1
> meg more than it was. Has the boot part of the drive been wiped out somehow?
> In Ghost it only showed one partition which I have a copy of. I used my NT
> computer to view the drive, all the files and folders are there, I just can
> boot it up. This computer was given to me so I don't have an installation
> disks. It appears to me that if I can get any copy of warp and make a
> bootable disk to get to the cmd prompt, than I should be able to adjust
> config.sys and autoexec to then run off of the c: drive right? HELP
>
>
>


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From: [e-mail]                            26-Oct-99 18:49:09
  To: All                                               26-Oct-99 21:24:09
Subj: Re: Boot Failure

From: "Valheru" <[e-mail]>

Let me know your thoughts on this...if I can just get a hold of a copy of
warp v3 or v4 shouldn't I be able to format the hd and set it up for os2,
then copy all of the files from the original hd(which I have backed up) and
it should then boot right? Or worst case scenario, boot from a diskette and
then edit config.sys and autoexe.bat to load drivers and such from the hd.
Let me know. Thanks



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From: [e-mail]                             26-Oct-99 14:57:25
  To: All                                               26-Oct-99 21:24:09
Subj: Unable to print Solved

From: [e-mail]

During the install of the OS the IBM Null drivers were installed but not
the IBM Null object. Immediately upon creating the IBM Null object the
print jobs were released. Details, Details. RJF
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From: [e-mail]                        26-Oct-99 13:04:21
  To: All                                               26-Oct-99 21:24:09
Subj: Modem Settings

From: "Paul M. Pilon" <[e-mail]>

I apologize in advance if what follows seems trivial, but here goes.

I currently have my new modem jumpered for COM 3, and IRQ 3.  These were
jumper settings on my old modem which was originally installed back in the
Dark Ages when I ran Win 3.11.  When I installed the new modem, I made no
changes in the COM.SYS statement of my CONFIG.SYS which reads
DEVICE=C:\OS2\BOOT\COM.SYS.

Having done an RMVIEW /IRQ, I get the following output for IRQ3:
    IRQ Level =  3  PCI Pin = NONE  Flg = MULTIPLEXED  SERIAL_2 Serial
Controller
    IRQ Level =  3  PCI Pin = NONE  Flg = MULTIPLEXED  SERIAL_3 Serial
Controller

Is there a problem, or potential problem with this?  My system is currently
operating just fine, and has been for some months.  I am about to make some
changes which will necessitate reinstalling OS/2, and want to get things as
near to perfect for it as possible.  What would be the "standard" or best
settings?

Thanks in advance to all who apply



**************************************************************
"I have the male 'work avoidance chromosome'.
I can detect unnecessary work, thereby avoiding it."
-- Dilbert

Paul M. Pilon
Halifax, NS Canada
[e-mail]
To reply, get rid of the 3 "red"s .
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From: [e-mail]                             26-Oct-99 22:35:12
  To: All                                               26-Oct-99 21:24:09
Subj: Re: Instructions: How To Build An OS/2 Computer

From: [e-mail] (Ron Gibson)

On Mon, 25 Oct 1999 22:49:50, "Doug Darrow" <[e-mail]> wrote:

> >I don't
> >want to call a hardware manufacturer and pay them to put
> >together a machine that I could build for probably 1/4 the
> >cost they will charge me - whether it be Dell or IB.

> Forget that. Those days are gone. You, as an individual, can't buy the
> individual components for even 5% less than the big boys will sell you
> a new system for...INCLUDING labor and bundled software! Now, if you're
> talking quality of components or workmanship, that's another story --
> but you aren't gonna beat their price.

I don't know where you're shopping at but to get the same machine that I
just built, no on board components, with a mid size tower it would
have cost me over $1200.  Mine cost $700, a PII-400.  And it works with
ALL operating systems.

If you don't have software, that's another story.

If you want the absolute basics and only want to run W98 then an
emachine is a good idea.

                      email: [e-mail]

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From: [e-mail]                          27-Oct-99 00:25:20
  To: All                                               28-Oct-99 10:23:11
Subj: Re: Warp Server not able to get available memory

From: [e-mail] (Ilya Zakharevich)

[A complimentary Cc of this posting was sent to
<[e-mail]>],
who wrote in article <7v4hul$5ue$[e-mail]>:
> But the problem isn't that we're running out of available memory - it's
> that DB2 isn't using it.  Memstat is sitting there telling us we have
> 429 MB of available RAM (after DB2 startup, HPFS cache allocation,
> etc), but we take the same configuration and ask for a total of 50,000
> pages (200 MB) of bufferpool and we don't get it.  If we run this
> configuration under Warp workstation, it works just fine.

No wonder!  You should have started with this.

You cannot have more than circa 220M of virtual memory allocated by an
application (at least with the "standard" setup).  Some people claim
that tweaking things a bit here and a bit there moves this boundary,
but only a tiny bit.

This is the part of "640K should be enough for anything" mentality
which is hardwired into the way OS/2 memory manager works.  I have
seen claims that WSeB lifts this barrier *a lot*, but you need a
special option to DosAllocMem() (sp?), and the allocated addresses are
(probably?) useless as arguments to many system calls (those which go
through 16bit calls).

Ilya

P.S.  Again, it is virtual memory, so it has nothing to do with the
      amount of "free" memory on your system (whatever this might
      mean).

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From: [e-mail]                     27-Oct-99 00:12:24
  To: All                                               28-Oct-99 10:23:11
Subj: Re: Fdisk and 3rd hard drive

From: [e-mail] (Frank McKenney)

In <[e-mail]>, "David T. Johnson"
<[e-mail]> writes:
>David Gillespie wrote:
>>
>> I recently installed a third hard drive, a WD 13gig on a Warp 4
>> system.  I partitioned it and formatted the partitions HPFS.  The
>> problem is, I want to add one of the partitions to the bootmanager
>> menu but Fdisk will not let me.  The only options that show up when I
>> run fdisk is:
>> delete partition and set startup value when I select any partition on
>> that drive.  I have even tried using the install disks but still no
>> go.  Will this not work???  Any help is appreciated.
>
>Try setting the drive as LBA in the BIOS setup.  Then see if FDISK will
>give you the boot manager option.  If yes, select the
>add-to-boot-manager option, reformat the hard drive, and off ya go.

David... er, I mean, "David"... Oh, the heck with it! (;-)

I can think of two reasons why BootManager would not be happy with a
partition on third drive:

 1) "High" end of the paritition is above the BIOS 1024 "cylinder"
    limit. If you've partitioned the drive in OS/2, then the output
    from

        FDISK /QUERY

    should tell you if this is the case.

 2) The drive/partition are not visible at boot time because your System
    or HD adapter BIOS don't recognize / support booting from this
    drive. Now, one might _hope_ that any System BIOS "current" enough
    to, say, auto-recognize an IDE drive or set "LBA" mode on it would
    allow booting from that drive, but I can't presonally swear to
    it (;-).

Hope this helps...


Frank McKenney, McKenney Associates
Richmond, Virginia / [phone]
E-mail: [e-mail]

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From: [e-mail]                               26-Oct-99 23:11:03
  To: All                                               28-Oct-99 10:23:11
Subj: Re: FP12 - Trap 00d

From: [e-mail]

In articleDale Erwin wrote:

  [e-mail] wrote:

  > Dale Erwin wrote:
  >
  >   I just installed FP12 today, then when I tried to reboot, I
  >   got the following trap:
  >   ------------------------------
  >   Exception in Device Driver:  ES18691$
  >   Trap 00d              ERRCE=0084    ERRAC=****
  >   EAX=fde20084   EBX=ffff0000    ECX=00004e88    EDX=00000000
  >   ESI=9692001e    EDI=00000291    EBP=00004eaa    FLG=00213246
  >   CS:EIP=2ae0:00004260    CSACC=0096    CSLIM=000068d0
  >   SS:ESP=0030:00004ea6    SSACC=1097    SSLIM=00003fff
  >   DS=2ad8    DSACC=0093    DSLIM=00002bf0    CR0=8001001b
  >   ES=2ad8    ESACC=0093    ESLIM=00002bf0    CR2=ffe1813a
  >   FS=0000    FSACC=****    FLSIM=********
  >   GS=0000    GSACC=****    GSLIM=********
  >   The system detected an internal processing error at
  >   location ##0168:fff4832e - 0000:c32e.
  >   600000, 9084
  >   05860570
  >   Internal Revision 9.036, 99/07/20
  >   The system is stopped.  Record all of the above
  >   information and contact your service representative.
  >   ------------------------------
  >   Seems that I have heard it said before that not much of this
  >   information is beneficial to determining the cause of the
  >   trouble.
  >   I am sure the first line is important though.  After several
  >   unsuccessful tries to reboot, I booted from Utility disks and
  >   REMed out the two lines in config.sys with that driver name
  >   in it.  I was then able to reboot, but now I have no audio.
  >
  >   Does anyone know of a workaround, or am I going to have to
  >   backout the entire fixpack?
  >   --
  >   Dale Erwin
  >   Dallas, Texas
  >
  > Yes, I can tell you.  I suffered through this problem again and
  > again while trying to bring my system back to a useable state
  > after trying a poor beta program  called SciDisplay Doctor.
  > I tried all of the available updates, including the updated
  > driver from the ESS site itself and the driver from that
  > Indelible Blue guy's site and still failed.  And then some
  > kind soul named Osmo told me to go here:
  >
  >
http://service.software.ibm.com/os2ddpak/html/2632ADD962A12DA3852561B20
  > 04F42F4.html
  >
  > and download IBM's version of the ESS drivers.  You need to copy
  > the files over to a floppy because the install program works from
  > the A: drive but once the menu comes up, I told it to use the files
  > (which I had copied over to the A: drive floppy) found in the
  > temp directory where I first unzipped them.  Don't know why but it
  > worked.  I don't have WinOS/2 on my system so I didn't bother with
  > WinOS/2 driver, just the straight ess1688 driver.  This version
  > brought my sound system back to normal.
  >
  > Hope it works for you.

  Thanks for the reply, Jeff.  I'm just wondering, though, since you
say this is the ES1688 driver and I need the ES1869 driver if this is
really the correct driver.  IBM does have another entry on that site
for the ES1869 device, but the driver is not mainained by them but by
ESS.  I looked at their site, too, and I don't find anything specific
toOS/2.  Is it possible that the ES1688 driver could be used on the
ES1869 device?

  As long as it took me to get my computer running again last night, I
am a little gun-shy to just try it.

  Suggestions anyone?
  --
  Dale Erwin
  Dallas, Texas

All I know Dale is that I tried the files from the sites you
mentioned and I still got the screen of Trap death.  I KNEW
it worked before with FP12 (and prior to the SciTech Display
Doctor Preview).  It was AFTER I completely reinstalled OS/2
then downloaded and install the FP12 upgrade that I got the
Trap D error.  Someone had mentioned remming it out to get
your system back online and that worked.  So I used TWO config.sys
files, one with and another without the ESS drivers remmed out.

The only 'chore' was having to boot from install disks with
each trial/error ESS packages.  The one from the ESS.com site
(it looks almost identical to the IBM package) failed.  The
individual driver from Duane's WarpUPdate site also failed.

Try going to the IBM site offering the ESS version download
packages.  Maybe IBM checked those drivers to make sure they
worked (whereas, the ESS.com site hasn't checked them since
their original release dates) and select and install the version
for your particular ESS card.  I'm crossing my fingers it will
work for you.

Here's the IBM site address for ALL the ESS driver packages :

http://service.software.ibm.com/os2ddpak/html/multimed/esstechn/index.h
tm

Jeff


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From: [e-mail]                             26-Oct-99 23:45:03
  To: All                                               28-Oct-99 10:23:11
Subj: Re: Changing CDROM

From: [e-mail] (Ron Gibson)

On Tue, 26 Oct 1999 00:34:12, [e-mail] (Lorne Sunley)
wrote:

> The older versions of the OS/2 drivers would also work with
> that configuration. The IDE specification says that having
> a SLAVE with no MASTER is an illegal combination for
> the IDE bus. IBM fixed the driver to work according to the
> specification.

Hmmm...works fine on my system on the secondary channel.  I have it set
up with a master removable HDD, cold swap.  The CDROM is a slave.  It
works fine whether or not the master is plugged in.

                      email: [e-mail]

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From: [e-mail]                      27-Oct-99 03:09:00
  To: All                                               28-Oct-99 10:23:11
Subj: Re: Modems (again?)

From: Martin Nisshagen <[e-mail]>

Richard Steiner [FIELDATA FORTRAN ENTHUSIASTS CLUB] -> comp.os.os2.misc:

» >> FWIW, USR Couriers have text-based flash software which runs in
» >> DOS, and which I believe runs just fine in a VDM.
» >
» >Confirmed.  My 1995-vintage Courier Dual Standard has had one u/g
» >that way.
»
» Thanks for the confirmation.  I boot to DOS to upgrade, but I figured
» that it might work in a VDM.  Now I know.  :-)

Yes, I have flashed it under both OS/2 and NTVDM without any problem.

» >> They aren't inexpensive, however.
» >
» >Compared with the ultra-el-cheapos, certainly.  I think it's a
» >case of amortising that cost over a long and contented lifetime.
»
» I really believe that my Courier is worth every penny I paid for it!

<AOL>

Same here. Has been of great value and very reliable for many years (even if
I'm soon to ditch it because of a change to ISDN). The free and good quality
flash upgrades has been a big part of what made it a very good choice IMO.

Best regards,

m a r t i n | n

--
Martin Nisshagen                 PGP 6.5: 0x45D423AC      K R A F T W E R K
:)
CS/CE, Chalmers, Sweden          ICQ UIN: 689662          2 x 300A @ 450 MHz
d4nisse-at-dtek-chalmers-se      home2.pp.sbbs.se/mn
home2.pp.sbbs.se/mn/kw

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From: [e-mail]                      27-Oct-99 03:09:03
  To: All                                               28-Oct-99 10:23:11
Subj: Re: Instructions: How To Build An OS/2 Computer

From: Martin Nisshagen <[e-mail]>

Bj¢rn Vermo [Norbionics] -> comp.os.os2.misc:

» > However, in some cases you can save a lot of money. This especially if you
are
» > willing to tweak the components. In my own case I build a dirt cheap dual
» > processor system who would have costed me at least 3x times as much as a
» > supported machine with the same performance from vendors like IBM or HP.
»
» This, of course, is true. Compared to brand name, you can build something
with the
» same performance (in the areas of importance to you) cheaper. However,
depending on
» the local competition between small system integrators, is is not unlikely
that they
» will sell it ready-made for about the same price you can build it for, given
the
» same kind of corner cutting.

In cases as my own I'm pretty sure it wouldn't have been possible with all the
tweaking I have done to the system (including patching the processors by
drilling and soldering on them). You also usually don't get even 1/10 of the
components available on the market from your local PC shop (they simply can't
afford to have that big selection).

I also admit that I have a VAR discount on a lot of components, but with all
the new Internet sales and web shops everything has changed, and you can get
almost the same good price if you shop around (in same cases even lower than
my normal retail price from my main distributor).

Your local traditional computer shop around the corner can't beat the virtual
stores in price (I don't joke when I say they can beat major distributors).

Also add the fact that I wouldn't trust the local shop to build the machine in
a proper way. Also add to that I don't think they usually are aware of all the
latest tweaking and other info compared to the best web sites (like Tom's
Hardware Guide, Ars-Technica, Sharky Extreme, Thresh's FiringSquad, etc).

In addition all that I also always like to do my own custom install of all
operating systems, be it OS/2, NT or some Unix distribution (even this very
notebook I type on right now (no custom machine at all) who came with NT4WS
pre installed I reformatted very quickly to do my own custom install of it).

All this said I *fully* agree it's not the same for normal end users. They
probably much better of with a tested ready-to-run system with full support.

Best regards,

m a r t i n | n

--
Martin Nisshagen                 PGP 6.5: 0x45D423AC      K R A F T W E R K
:)
CS/CE, Chalmers, Sweden          ICQ UIN: 689662          2 x 300A @ 450 MHz
d4nisse-at-dtek-chalmers-se      home2.pp.sbbs.se/mn
home2.pp.sbbs.se/mn/kw

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From: [e-mail]                      27-Oct-99 03:09:04
  To: All                                               28-Oct-99 10:23:11
Subj: Re: Interesting TrueType tid-bit...

From: Martin Nisshagen <[e-mail]>

[e-mail] [Deja.com - Before you buy.] -> comp.os.os2.misc:

» > I am not sure what you find so "interesting".
»
» HexEdit (or open in e.exe) any .TTF file, and look for some familiar
» text... You may recognize it as the name of an IBM made PC Operating
» system.
»
» I've done this on Win95 machines too. Very interesting to say the least.

It's actually very simple (at least for any who knows the history of OS/2):

IIRC the TTF specification was written down by Apple and Microsoft - who at
that time developed both OS/2 and it's successors (like NT, who at that time
also was called OS/2 3.0 and Portable OS/2), and the name tag for the PC TTF
files simply got to use the OS/2 label identification.

Best regards,

m a r t i n | n

--
Martin Nisshagen                 PGP 6.5: 0x45D423AC      K R A F T W E R K
:)
CS/CE, Chalmers, Sweden          ICQ UIN: 689662          2 x 300A @ 450 MHz
d4nisse-at-dtek-chalmers-se      home2.pp.sbbs.se/mn
home2.pp.sbbs.se/mn/kw

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From: [e-mail]                      27-Oct-99 03:09:05
  To: All                                               28-Oct-99 10:23:11
Subj: Re: Is my blood boiling...

From: Martin Nisshagen <[e-mail]>

OS/2 Fan [An OTEnet S.A. customer] -> comp.os.os2.misc:

» I know the feeling.  My ISP provides documentation in .doc format, a

Tip: Have you tried for example Star Office?

Even if I think pure ASCII is better (if you don't need the formatting), I
actually prefer .doc, or even better .html, format instead of for example the
typical .pdf files (another property format as well, but not easy to edit).

Best regards,

m a r t i n | n

--
Martin Nisshagen                 PGP 6.5: 0x45D423AC      K R A F T W E R K
:)
CS/CE, Chalmers, Sweden          ICQ UIN: 689662          2 x 300A @ 450 MHz
d4nisse-at-dtek-chalmers-se      home2.pp.sbbs.se/mn
home2.pp.sbbs.se/mn/kw

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From: [e-mail]                           27-Oct-99 01:12:20
  To: All                                               28-Oct-99 10:23:11
Subj: Re: Boot Failure

From: [e-mail] (Lorne Sunley)

On Tue, 26 Oct 1999 22:49:19, "Valheru" <[e-mail]>
wrote:

> Let me know your thoughts on this...if I can just get a hold of a copy of
> warp v3 or v4 shouldn't I be able to format the hd and set it up for os2,
> then copy all of the files from the original hd(which I have backed up) and
> it should then boot right? Or worst case scenario, boot from a diskette and
> then edit config.sys and autoexe.bat to load drivers and such from the hd.
> Let me know. Thanks
>

Yes that should work as long as you don't copy over
any of the operating system files when you copy the
data from the backup.

You will have to update the Warp 3/4 diskettes with the
IBMDASD.EXE update for large hard drives when you
do the Warp install. (If your hard drive is 4.3 gig or more)

Lorne Sunley

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From: [e-mail]                    26-Oct-99 18:30:24
  To: All                                               28-Oct-99 10:23:11
Subj: Re: Bootos2 options

From: "Graham C. Norris" <[e-mail]>

How much exactly did you pay for what you are complaining about? Enough
for a professional Technical Writer to be employed to document it? No, I
thought not. Just be glad someone creates programs like these and then
doesn't charge anything for them.

Graham.

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From: [e-mail]                                    26-Oct-99 21:34:03
  To: All                                               28-Oct-99 10:23:11
Subj: Re: FP12 - Trap 00d

From: Terry Norton <[e-mail]>

Go to:

ftp://ftp.esstech.com.tw/OS2/1869215a.zip

This is the version that works with FP 10, 11, & 12.

Dale Erwin wrote:
>
> I just installed FP12 today, then when I tried to reboot, I got the
> following trap:
>
> Does anyone know of a workaround, or am I going to have to
> backout the entire fixpack?
> --
> Dale Erwin
> Dallas, Texas

--

Terry Norton
Warped with OS/2

I started out with nothing & still have most of it left.

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From: [e-mail]                            26-Oct-99 21:34:29
  To: All                                               28-Oct-99 10:23:14
Subj: Re: Boot Failure

From: "Valheru" <[e-mail]>

The drive is only 1.275 gig for that system. Question, once the drive is
formated and bootable, even if I did copy over all operating system files,
wouldn't it still boot since having a bootable partition seems to be the
only problem I am having?


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From: [e-mail]                             27-Oct-99 02:30:28
  To: All                                               28-Oct-99 10:23:14
Subj: Program Object Problem ...

From: [e-mail]

I'm trying to use an environment variable as a parameter of a program object.
Usually I would use %VARNAME% but "%" has special meaning when present
on the parameter line.  Is there any work around for this?

Thanks in advance.
Jake Wetzel

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From: MtLavinia_nospam@nym._nospam.ali...               26-Oct-99 19:34:13
  To: All                                               28-Oct-99 10:23:14
Subj: FP12 trap.  Pls help

Message sender: MtLavinia_nospam@nym._nospam.alias.net

From: "Lavinia" <MtLavinia_nospam@nym._nospam.alias.net>

I've installed FP12 over FP8.  It all went well, and on reboot
the locked drivers were applied.

When the boot continues, I get numerous traps, all sys3175.  The first one is
for smstart.exe.  There are numerous other traps, among them -
\mptn\bin\cntrl.exe, \mptn\bin\inetwait, ibmcom\protocol\nbtcp.exe,
\mptn\bin\vdosctl.exe, and finally it grinds to a halt with pmmerge.dll.

The trap is the same for all, 0C0000005H  which is XCPT_ACCESS_VIOLATION and
the P1 code is 00000001H  which is XCPT_READ_ACCESS.

Can anyone tell me why these errors are occuring?  I commented out smstart
but the other traps still happen.  What can I do to get FP12 to boot?

I backed out to FP8 but would like to get 12 installed.

Any suggestions?  Lavinia
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From: [e-mail]                          27-Oct-99 03:13:03
  To: All                                               28-Oct-99 10:23:14
Subj: Re: Fdisk and 3rd hard drive

From: [e-mail] (Annie K.)

On Tue, 26 Oct 1999 19:47:50, David Gillespie
<[e-mail]> wrote:

:<!doctype html public "-//w3c//dtd html 4.0 transitional//en">
:<html>
:No, sorry.  I am new at posting to news groups.  I do NOT see
:the tags  when I look at the message I posted.  But I do see
:them in yours.  What is going on?

 Go to Edit-->Preferences-->Mail and Newsgroups-->Formatting, and
check 'Use the plain text editor to compose messages' and 'Convert the
message into plain text.'

--
Klaatu barada nikto

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From: [e-mail]                           27-Oct-99 03:14:16
  To: All                                               28-Oct-99 10:23:14
Subj: Re: Boot Failure

From: [e-mail] (Lorne Sunley)

On Wed, 27 Oct 1999 01:34:58, "Valheru" <[e-mail]>
wrote:

> The drive is only 1.275 gig for that system. Question, once the drive is
> formated and bootable, even if I did copy over all operating system files,
> wouldn't it still boot since having a bootable partition seems to be the
> only problem I am having?
>

It might work, it depends on why the volume won;t boot.

There could be a problem with LVM (Logical Volume Manager)
has to mark the partition and assign it a drive letter for WSeB
to use. The WSeB code that you copy in will expect the LVM
drive assignment info.

Lorne Sunley



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From: [e-mail]                                26-Oct-99 23:09:01
  To: All                                               28-Oct-99 10:23:14
Subj: Pimple on my desktop's face

From: [e-mail]

Somewhere along the way a new object has appeared on my desktop.  It bears the
DOS window icon.  Its name is MAKEDSKS.BAT.

An RMB on this object gets me a menu without a delete item on it.  Properties
indicates its home only as desktop.  If I attempt to drag it onto my shredder,
I
get the "Big No-no" sign (minus sign) on the dragging icon.

I think this thing appeared when I was looking at some files on my OS/2 system
installation CD.

Anybody have any idea how to send to that big object heaven in the sky?

Jim L
Remove XX from address to Email
Crooks and kooks will get guns regardless of laws.


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From: [e-mail]                                27-Oct-99 03:20:29
  To: All                                               28-Oct-99 10:23:14
Subj: Re: ADSL connection in Victoria

From: [e-mail] (Gordon Nilsen)

On Mon, 25 Oct 1999 19:21:40, "Frank Rusko" <[e-mail]>
wrote:

> Does anyone in Victoria have experience in setting up ADSL and
> who lives in the Victoria B.C. area.
>
> ADSL is supplied here in the Victoria area, but I am not too
> comfortable in setting it up myself any help would be
> appreciated.
>
> I would be willing to reimburse anyone who can get it up and
> running for me.
>
> Thank you in advance
>
>
>
>
Hi Frank
I live in Burnaby, so we must have the same system.
Set your hostname in config.sys. Mine is
set hostname=a2axxxxx.smartt.bconnected.net
Then open tcpcfg, using lan0, enable interface and
set Automatically, using DHCP. Thats it.
Use DHCP monitor to check your setup.

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From: [e-mail]                                26-Oct-99 23:30:16
  To: All                                               28-Oct-99 10:23:14
Subj: Re: Bootos2 options

From: [e-mail]

"Graham C. Norris" <[e-mail]> said:

>How much exactly did you pay for what you are complaining about? Enough for a
>professional Technical Writer to be employed to document it? No, I thought
>not.

So it it's free it should be poorly done?

Jim L
Remove XX from address to Email
Crooks and kooks will get guns regardless of laws.


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From: [e-mail]                               26-Oct-99 23:39:19
  To: All                                               28-Oct-99 10:23:14
Subj: Re: FP12 trap.  Pls help

From: Duane Chamblee <[e-mail]>

I've seen this... I bet you didn't remove Process Commander before
installing this fixpak.
Try removing it and rerun FP12.

You may be able to reinstall PC, but I suggest that you don't.

Lavinia wrote:
>
> I've installed FP12 over FP8.  It all went well, and on reboot
> the locked drivers were applied.
>
> When the boot continues, I get numerous traps, all sys3175.  The first one
is
> for smstart.exe.  There are numerous other traps, among them -
> \mptn\bin\cntrl.exe, \mptn\bin\inetwait, ibmcom\protocol\nbtcp.exe,
> \mptn\bin\vdosctl.exe, and finally it grinds to a halt with pmmerge.dll.
>
> The trap is the same for all, 0C0000005H  which is XCPT_ACCESS_VIOLATION and
> the P1 code is 00000001H  which is XCPT_READ_ACCESS.
>
> Can anyone tell me why these errors are occuring?  I commented out smstart
> but the other traps still happen.  What can I do to get FP12 to boot?
>
> I backed out to FP8 but would like to get 12 installed.

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From: [e-mail]                               27-Oct-99 03:40:01
  To: All                                               28-Oct-99 10:23:14
Subj: Re: Is my blood boiling...

From: [e-mail] (Esther Schindler)

On Tue, 26 Oct 1999 16:24:01, [e-mail] wrote:
| I didn't get a thank you from my ISP.  Nor would they even USE the support
stuff
| I offered.

Well, either that says something about the quality and responsiveness
of your ISP, or it says something about your ability to give them a
customer benefit for free. <grin>

There are plenty of ISPs -- and other businesspeople -- who think that
"keep it simple" means "eliminate all the options." Some of them can
be educated. Some can't.

--Esther


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From: [e-mail]                                  26-Oct-99 17:04:19
  To: All                                               28-Oct-99 10:23:14
Subj: OS/2 Around the World!!! - New Page

From: CII <[e-mail]>

OS/2 Around the World is a page listing Links of sites
we did not know existed, and a few that we knew existed
but probably forgot about.

At least that is the focus.

You can see the site:
http://trss.webjump.com/os2atw.htm


--
http://trss.webjump.com


Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.

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From: [e-mail]                 27-Oct-99 00:05:10
  To: All                                               28-Oct-99 10:23:14
Subj: Re: Bootos2 options

From: [e-mail] (Raphael Tennenbaum)

[e-mail] wrote:

>"Graham C. Norris" <[e-mail]> said:
>
>>How much exactly did you pay for what you are complaining about? Enough for
a
>>professional Technical Writer to be employed to document it? No, I thought
>>not.
>
>So it it's free it should be poorly done?
>

Come on, Jim, it isn't poorly done at all.  It says

Syntax:  BOOTOS2   <SOURCE=drive:\path\>
                   <TARGET=drive>
                   <TYPE=PM|WPS>
                   <NLS(Country,KBD,CodePage)>
                   etc.

It's really hard for me to imagine you've been using OS/2 as
long as you have and can't fathom that the options listed
after BOOTOS2 are command-line parameters.  Surely you
didn't think that you could just type BOOTOS2 at a command
line and it would read your mind and figure what drive you
wanted to install to, and what kind of installation you
desired?

Or maybe I should say: intrinsic in the way such a program
as BOOTOS2 is made and documented is that if you DON'T
understand how it will work or can't be bothered to read the
documentation to figure how it will work then you SHOULDN'T
be using it.

--
Ray Tennenbaum        '99 YZF-R6
readme@ http://www.ray-field.com

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From: [e-mail]                    26-Oct-99 21:24:05
  To: All                                               28-Oct-99 10:23:14
Subj: Re: Bootos2 options

From: "Graham C. Norris" <[e-mail]>

I don't think it is poorly done at all. It seems crystal clear to me.
Since you are probably the first person ever to have a problem with it,
the problem may not lie with the documentation.

Graham.

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From: [e-mail]                    26-Oct-99 21:22:05
  To: All                                               28-Oct-99 10:23:14
Subj: Re: Pimple on my desktop's face

From: "Graham C. Norris" <[e-mail]>

Drag it to a floppy. Remove floppy. Gone!

Graham.

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From: [e-mail]                         26-Oct-99 15:56:28
  To: All                                               28-Oct-99 10:23:14
Subj: Re: GAH! Got a Trap error on our print server! Help!

From: Siobhan Perricone <[e-mail]>

In article <[e-mail]>,
  "Scott E. Garfinkle" <[e-mail]> wrote:
> On Tue, 26 Oct 1999 12:54:47 GMT, Siobhan Perricone wrote:
>
> >\OS2\BOOT\AIC7870.ADD
> ...
> >I've sent this to the PSF/2 guy I was working with via e-mail, so
hopefully it will help....

First off, I can't begin to tell you how much I appreciate your helping
me.  However...

> He won't know what to do with it, I would think. First thing you
should do is
> get the latest version of the driver from the online ddpak. It's dtd
4/99.
> Second thing to do is to see whether your LAN card is sharing an IRQ
with the
> AIC7870.  Perhaps one of the drivers is defective in its interrupt
sharing.

IF what you're saying is going to mean anything to me, you have *got*
to take time to be detailed in your responses to me.  I grok that I
need an updated driver, but I don't know where it is.  I don't know how
to see if my LAN card (I have two of them) is sharing an IRQ with the
AIC7870.  They should NOT be, this was working just fine before, and it
was quite painful going through the set up on this system.

Again, I don't want to seem ungrateful, but I really need you to give
me details on how to do these things.  WHERE is the updated driver?
What's the "online ddpack"?  How do I figure out what IRQ the AIC7870
is using?  How do I change it, keeping in mind that I had a hell of a
problem with IRQs when I was setting up these cards in the first place?

I should also point out that I don't understand why this would become a
problem all the sudden.  If we're talking about IRQ problems, why was
the current set up working?

--
Siobhan Perricone
PC Technician
Alltel Information Services
(I only speak for myself, not for Alltel)


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From: [e-mail]                        27-Oct-99 04:45:25
  To: All                                               28-Oct-99 10:23:14
Subj: New OS/2 device driver development

From: [e-mail] (OS/2 Device Driver Project)

Due to the current (sad) state of OS/2 device driver development, I've decided
to try and start a project for getting new device drivers written for OS/2.
It's an attempt to match device driver demand with OS/2 developers.  I'd like
to orgranize OS/2 users and try to get a feel for what device drivers are
needed,
and how many people need what, etc.

Part of my idea is to organize a sort of 'buying pool' for device drivers,
where
individuals will agree to pay $X to sponsor development of a driver for device
X,
then have available OS/2 driver developers 'bid' for the project.

I'd like some input from users who have devices they'd like to see drivers
for,
and also driver developers.

I think it's naive to believe 'somebody' is going to write all the drivers
that we
need.  I also think it's naive to beleive that we're going to get everything
we
want for free.  We need to organize the demand and the talent, and put them
together.

Send me your thoughts.  [e-mail].

- Mike

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From: [e-mail]                               26-Oct-99 19:52:17
  To: All                                               28-Oct-99 10:23:14
Subj: Re: Interesting TrueType tid-bit...

From: [e-mail]

>When was TrueType developed? Late 80's, right? When did OS/2 get built-in
>TrueType support? With Warp4 in '96, right?
>Makes me wonder just what the heck was going on! :)

When OS2 was built the world lived with the fonts in printers, or
PostScript fonts if quality was needed.  PS was built in to OS2.  Most TT
fonts were awful until about 95, and still suck quality wise. Few
professionals use them.  -- Of course there are millions who think they
are professional or at least that they can get professional results with
Arial and MS Word. The same people get dumb looks when you try to explain
the problem.

A few of the TT fonts that have come with Windows are pretty good for
screen display, but they lack the hintings that are in PS fonts. ANd they
are only good at all because M$ hired Monotype to build them.

_____________
Ed Letourneau <[e-mail]>

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From: [e-mail]                           27-Oct-99 01:29:01
  To: All                                               28-Oct-99 10:23:14
Subj: Re: ADSL connection in Victoria

From: "andrew g" <[e-mail]>

On Mon, 25 Oct 1999 12:21:40 -0700 (PDT), Frank Rusko wrote:

>Does anyone in Victoria have experience in setting up ADSL and
>who lives in the Victoria B.C. area.

Is this the Bell Sympatico High Speed Edition stuff?

If it is, and if you get it running under OS/2, will you please post a
detailed journal of how you did it?

Thanks,

andrew


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From: [e-mail]                                 27-Oct-99 05:55:11
  To: All                                               28-Oct-99 10:23:15
Subj: Re: what brand and model PC today to buy for OS/2 ?

From: [e-mail]

In <[e-mail]>, =?iso-8859-1?Q?Bj=F8rn?= Vermo
<[e-mail]> writes:
>Richard Steiner wrote:
>
>> Here in comp.os.os2.misc, =?iso-8859-1?Q?Bj=F8rn?= Vermo <[e-mail]>
>> spake unto us, saying:
>>
>> >OK - IBM (real thing, not the Aptiva) are reliable beyond the obsolescence
>> >point. The IBM PC-xxx comes in models with OS/2, while the servers come in
>> >versions with no OS (or even with no disk installed). The Intellistation
>> >series does not support OS/2 well.
>>
>> Huh.  This must have seriously changed in the past few years.
>>
>> One of the boxes I use Warp 4 on here is an IBM IntelliStation Z Pro
>> (the older Z Pro model 6899 based on the PPro/200 processor), and it
>> has been formally certified by IBM to run with both Warp 3 and Warp 4.
>>
>
>Yes, the change seems to have happened during the last year or so. The
problem
>is not that they do not run OS/2, the problem is that there are no OS/2
drivers
>for the new graphic acellerators. At least in the price list I have from a
>local dealer, the Intellistation does not officially support Windows 9x or
>OS/2.

uh, if I may reword your statement then ? the IntelliStation does not have
OS/2 drivers for the Intergraph video card . . . otherwise, OS/2 support is
fine. Some Intellistations come with Matrox cards, in which case you could
say these were well supported. Since OS/2 has no applications that can *use*
the Intergraph card, it's kind of a moot point ! and I notice Scitech
indicates
possible support for the Intergraph chips . . hooray !

on a related note, I deleted the preinstalled NT immediately on my 'station,
had a hell of a time later reinstalling it - had to turn off sound support in
the BIOS for NT to get past the black screen with the little dots . . . IBM
warranty/tech support was friendly, but not much good in this case -- but I
DID get to berate them severely that OS/2 had been running happily for six
months without a hiccup, while NT refused to install. Doesn't do any good,
but one can't help beating IBM over the head with their own product.

>
>It is really a pity, for the top end IBM Intellistation Z Pro is almost a
match
>for an Intergraph TDZ 2000, and in some cases even faster. But then, there is
>not much OS/2 software around to use all that Open GL capability. At least
not
>enough to justify a USD 10k computer.

Boot Manager . . . NT for CAD, OS/2 for everything else. At least it's better
than being stuck in Windows for everything.



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From: [e-mail]                            26-Oct-99 15:42:08
  To: All                                               28-Oct-99 10:23:15
Subj: Boot Failure

From: "Valheru" <[e-mail]>

I need some help. I have warp for e business internal rev 14.020f uni. It no
longer boots up. I get to the splash screen and all of a sudden it beeps and
I see the message that os/2 cannot control the hard disks or diskette
drives, the system is stopped, correct the preceding error and continue.
Now, I have a backup image of the drive from Norton Ghost but when I go to
restore it I noticed that the free space on the target drive is now almost 1
meg more than it was. Has the boot part of the drive been wiped out somehow?
In Ghost it only showed one partition which I have a copy of. I used my NT
computer to view the drive, all the files and folders are there, I just can
boot it up. This computer was given to me so I don't have an installation
disks. It appears to me that if I can get any copy of warp and make a
bootable disk to get to the cmd prompt, than I should be able to adjust
config.sys and autoexec to then run off of the c: drive right? HELP



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From: [e-mail]                                 26-Oct-99 07:27:12
  To: All                                               28-Oct-99 10:23:16
Subj: Re: Help - OS2 boot procedure

From: [e-mail]

In <[e-mail]>, "Graham C. Norris"
<[e-mail]> writes:
>In case quantity helps, here's another one: a failure in SINGLEQ$ means
>you have a video problem. Reset to VGA and take it from there. You may
>have other problems after that, but you need to take care of this first.
>
>Graham.

probably not in this case, but just in case someone, sometime does a deja
search - another thing that will cause an ERROR IN SINGLEQ$ is an older
Freetype/2  DLL combined with some rogue TrueType fonts.  Fixed now,
I think, but happened a few times here before I figured it out.

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From: [e-mail]                             27-Oct-99 09:45:05
  To: All                                               28-Oct-99 10:23:16
Subj: Re: Which protocol i use to write a os/2 program that tranfers files wi

From: [e-mail] (Scott Jones)

On Tue, 26 Oct 1999 13:33:19, [e-mail] (Esther Schindler)
wrote:

> On Tue, 26 Oct 1999 11:05:23, "Jaime A. Cruz, Jr." <[e-mail]>
> wrote:
>
> | Maybe he just wants a coding exercise?
>
> Could be. But I'd have thought he'd have said so.

Nah.  Judging from this part of his post:

>>In this problem the reciver knows nothing about the size or name of
>>transferring file .

it sounds like it was taken straight from the assignment his prof handed
out to him.

Majid, write this on the blackboard 1000 times:

"I will not ask people on Usenet to do my homework for me."

--
Scott Jones
[e-mail]

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From: [e-mail]                                 27-Oct-99 10:56:00
  To: All                                               28-Oct-99 10:23:16
Subj: Where can I get Microsoft C Compiler for OS/2 (version 6)?

From: [e-mail]

Hi,

I need a copy of Microsoft C Compiler for OS/2 (version 6). Any
reference?

Thank you in advance.

kl


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From: [e-mail]                                27-Oct-99 14:21:28
  To: All                                               28-Oct-99 10:23:16
Subj: Re: Is my blood boiling...

From: "OS/2 Fan" <[e-mail]>

Hi Martin,
    Yes, I tried SO5.1 under Warp 4 FP 9, with no luck, I'm
afraid.  I would have been OK with HTML format also, but the contents
of the .doc files they sent in the CD shall remain a mystery to me...
 I've got the notion PDFs are a bit slower than simply reading HTML
files from NS4.61, but either would have done at this point.  Good
thing I didn't need the contents after all.

On Wed, 27 Oct 1999 03:09:10 +0200, Martin Nisshagen wrote:

>OS/2 Fan [An OTEnet S.A. customer] -> comp.os.os2.misc:
>
>ε I know the feeling.  My ISP provides documentation in .doc format, a
>
>Tip: Have you tried for example Star Office?
>
>Even if I think pure ASCII is better (if you don't need the formatting), I
>actually prefer .doc, or even better .html, format instead of for example the
>typical .pdf files (another property format as well, but not easy to edit).
>
>Best regards,
>
>m a r t i n | n
>
>--
>Martin Nisshagen                 PGP 6.5: 0x45D423AC      K R A F T W E R K
:)
>CS/CE, Chalmers, Sweden          ICQ UIN: 689662          2 x 300A @ 450 MHz
>d4nisse-at-dtek-chalmers-se      home2.pp.sbbs.se/mn
home2.pp.sbbs.se/mn/kw

Regards,
Xtralarge OS/2 fan

Opinions expressed are mine only.  Ignore them and
killfile me.  Leave the University and/or my ISP alone,
I don't speak for them, they have nothing to do with it,
and they probably have more lawyers than you anyway.


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From: [e-mail]                         27-Oct-99 12:16:19
  To: All                                               28-Oct-99 10:23:16
Subj: Re: GAH! Got a Trap error on our print server! Help!

From: Siobhan Perricone <[e-mail]>

In article <[e-mail]>,
  "Scott E. Garfinkle" <[e-mail]> wrote:
> os2ddpak: http://service.software.ibm.com/os2ddpak/   -- follow the
links
> into DASD drivers and then to your particular driver. You should end
up
> downloading 7800fam.exe (I think). You can easily see what IRQ your
adaptec
> is using using "rmview /IRQ". Many LAN drivers do not, however,
register with
> RMVIEW, so it's hard to say. It's the sort of thing you have to mess
around a
> lot with in BIOS, etc., as I gather you know. I have seen many
occasions
> where adaptec cards are sharing an IRQ with a network card. This is
allowed
> by PCI spec -- it's just a question of the drivers and firmware....
Why it
> used to work and not now? Beats me. Maybe something changed on your
LAN.
> Also, I forget whether you said your printer was attached locally or
not. If
> it is, you should add "/IRQ" to your print01.sys line.  I hope this
is more
> helpful.

Thank you for the details.  I'll look into this right away.  We have
two network cards.  One connects via TCP/IP to a Unix box that sends
print jobs over.  The other connects via TCP/IP to the printers.  There
are two separate networks and the print server is used to bridge those
networks, as well as format the print jobs appropriately.

AFAIK there has been nothing in the network that changed, but I don't
control the entire thing, so it's hard to say for certain. :)  Thanks
for the help and I'll be checking into this further.

--
Siobhan Perricone
PC Technician
Alltel Information Services
(I only speak for myself, not for Alltel)


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From: [e-mail]                                    27-Oct-99 07:56:20
  To: All                                               28-Oct-99 10:23:16
Subj: Re: New OS/2 device driver development

From: [e-mail] (Dan Casey)

There is already a similar project in development. Warpicity,
conceived by Lynn Maxson and spearheaded by VOICE proposes to do this
very thing ... solicit developers to write new Device Drivers (and
other changes/enhancements to the OS/2 Operating System) .. and PAY
them for their work.

I'm not attempting to discourage you .... but asking that you join
with us in implementing this project. Cooperation is necessary so that
all OS/2 users may benefit.



In article <3svR3.5393$[e-mail]>,
[e-mail] (OS/2 Device Driver Project) wrote:
>
>Due to the current (sad) state of OS/2 device driver development, I've
decided
>to try and start a project for getting new device drivers written for OS/2.
>It's an attempt to match device driver demand with OS/2 developers.  I'd like
>to orgranize OS/2 users and try to get a feel for what device drivers are
needed,
>and how many people need what, etc.
>
>Part of my idea is to organize a sort of 'buying pool' for device drivers,
where
>individuals will agree to pay $X to sponsor development of a driver for
device X,
>then have available OS/2 driver developers 'bid' for the project.
>
>I'd like some input from users who have devices they'd like to see drivers
for,
>and also driver developers.
>
>I think it's naive to believe 'somebody' is going to write all the drivers
that we
>need.  I also think it's naive to beleive that we're going to get everything
we
>want for free.  We need to organize the demand and the talent, and put them
>together.
>
>Send me your thoughts.  [e-mail].
>
>- Mike
>

--
**************************************************************
*  Dan Casey                                                 *
*  President                                                 *
*  V.O.I.C.E. (Virtual OS/2 International Consumer Education *
*  http://www.os2voice.org                                   *
*  Abraxas on IRC                                            *
*  http://members.iquest.net/~dcasey                         *
*  Charter Associate member, Team SETI                       *
*  Warpstock 99 in Atlanta  http://www.warpstock.org         *
**************************************************************
*  E-Mail (subject: Req. PGP Key) for Public Key             *
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From: [e-mail]                          27-Oct-99 13:25:28
  To: All                                               28-Oct-99 10:23:16
Subj: Re: Changing CDROM

From: [e-mail] (Kevin Croxen)

On 26 Oct 1999 23:45:07 GMT, Ron Gibson <[e-mail]> wrote:
>On Tue, 26 Oct 1999 00:34:12, [e-mail] (Lorne Sunley)
>wrote:
>
>> The older versions of the OS/2 drivers would also work with
>> that configuration. The IDE specification says that having
>> a SLAVE with no MASTER is an illegal combination for
>> the IDE bus. IBM fixed the driver to work according to the
>> specification.
>
>Hmmm...works fine on my system on the secondary channel.  I have it set
>up with a master removable HDD, cold swap.  The CDROM is a slave.  It
>works fine whether or not the master is plugged in.
>
>                      email: [e-mail]
>
Nevertheless, Lorne is correct. This was a very well-documented
change that took place with fixpack 3. And it generated a lot of
usenet traffic in '97 when people discovered that their freshly
fixpack-3'ed systems were hanging at boot with 1ibms506.add
failing to load because the CD was on slave with an open master
on controller.

--Kevin

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From: [e-mail]                        27-Oct-99 13:52:29
  To: All                                               28-Oct-99 10:23:16
Subj: Re: Where can I get Microsoft C Compiler for OS/2 (version 6)?

From: [e-mail] (Bob Plyler)

In <7v6lo0$mj4$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] writes:
>Hi,
>
>I need a copy of Microsoft C Compiler for OS/2 (version 6). Any
>reference?
>
>Thank you in advance.
>
>kl
>

You can get it from the DDK Developer Site.
You have to register, but it's free.

http://techsupport.services.ibm.com/ddk/

Bob Plyler

IBM 3890/XP development (not an official IBM spokesperson)

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From: [e-mail]                          27-Oct-99 13:42:29
  To: All                                               28-Oct-99 10:23:16
Subj: Re: Pimple on my desktop's face

From: [e-mail] (Kevin Croxen)

Did you try from a command prompt:  attrib -r  c:\desktop\makedsks.bat  to
render the object non read-only, then deleting it? The object crept in from
the root directory of the Warp CD, where it is used to make the Mega 100+
install-floppy set for Warp 4 installers lacking a CD-ROM on the target
machine.

--Kevin



On Tue, 26 Oct 1999 23:09:02 -0400, [e-mail]
 <[e-mail]> wrote:
>Somewhere along the way a new object has appeared on my desktop.
  It bears the
>DOS window icon.  Its name is MAKEDSKS.BAT.
>
>An RMB on this object gets me a menu without a delete item on it.  Properties
>indicates its home only as desktop.  If I attempt to drag it onto my
shredder, I
>get the "Big No-no" sign (minus sign) on the dragging icon.
>
>I think this thing appeared when I was looking at some files on my OS/2
system
>installation CD.
>
>Anybody have any idea how to send to that big object heaven in the sky?
>
>Jim L
>Remove XX from address to Email
>Crooks and kooks will get guns regardless of laws.
>
>

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From: [e-mail]                               27-Oct-99 14:29:21
  To: All                                               28-Oct-99 10:23:17
Subj: Re: Which protocol i use to write a os/2 program that tranfers files wi

From: [e-mail] (Esther Schindler)

On Wed, 27 Oct 1999 09:45:10, [e-mail] (Scott Jones)
wrote:
| it sounds like it was taken straight from the assignment his prof handed
| out to him.
 | Majid, write this on the blackboard 1000 times:
| "I will not ask people on Usenet to do my homework for me."

Could be. <grin> Good catch, Scott.

Not that I can complain, really. I don't know how often I've gained
the wisdom, here on Usenet, that enabled me to sound smart in print.

--Esther

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From: [e-mail]                               27-Oct-99 10:51:05
  To: All                                               28-Oct-99 10:23:17
Subj: Re: Bootos2 options

From: [e-mail]

Graham C. Norris" <[e-mail]> said:

>I don't think it is poorly done at all. It seems crystal clear to me.
>Since you are probably the first person ever to have a problem with it,
>the problem may not lie with the documentation.

What is clear to one is near perfect goop to another -- especially someone
who is not a computer geek.

I used BootOS2 about 3 years ago. It took me a couple of hours to figure
it out with a TP 560. -- And because of this thread I got the latest
version and tried again. This time on a TP600.

I don't know if the problem is the Thinkpads or not, but after screwing
about for 45 minutes of so just now, it still don't work for me.

There is something wrong with the documentation!  This should be a no
brainer, and yet it isn't.

_____________
Ed Letourneau <[e-mail]>

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From: [e-mail]                           27-Oct-99 08:08:09
  To: All                                               28-Oct-99 10:23:17
Subj: Re: New OS/2 device driver development

From: [e-mail]

In <3svR3.5393$[e-mail]>, on 10/27/99
   at 04:45 AM, [e-mail] (OS/2 Device Driver Project)
said:


>Send me your thoughts.  [e-mail].

I badly want a twain driver for my UMAX Astra 610S Scanner.

Bob


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From: [e-mail]                               27-Oct-99 15:24:18
  To: All                                               28-Oct-99 10:23:17
Subj: Re: OK, I must be getting spoiled <g> so let me ask for more ...

From: [e-mail] (M.P. van Dobben de Bruijn)

> [e-mail] (John Varela) wrote:

>>>> Isn't there a facility in Warp (or an utility if it must be) that allows
me
>>>> to right-click on a files icon and then simply select the option to put
>>>> the contents into the clipboard without the need to open an app first?

>>> Pickup followed by Dump.

>> Thanks. Found the PickUp and ended up with a camera near
>> the pointer. No way to Dump it into the clipboard or the intended
>> application (IBMworks in this case) however. What am I doing wrong?

> As a test I just picked up a text file, right clicked on the EPM icon,
> selected DROP --> Move from the menu, and EPM opened the file.  Then I
> tried it with Lotus WordPro and that worked, too.

Thanks once again. As a test I did what you did with a text-file and it
worked. Did the same with one of the TIF-files I originally wanted it for
(as the import picture function of IBMWorks did not work on those) and
that did not work. So it is a problem to "import" those TIF-pictures into my
document this way, most likely because of an import-filter problem in IBM
Works I guess. BTW, this method (if it worked for the TIF-files) will not gi-
ve me control where (on which page) it is put in my IBMWorks doc, I fear.

Regards from Leeuwarden
Peter van Dobben de Bruijn
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From: [e-mail]                               27-Oct-99 15:24:19
  To: All                                               28-Oct-99 10:23:17
Subj: Re: OK, I must be getting spoiled <g> so let me ask for more ...

From: [e-mail] (M.P. van Dobben de Bruijn)

> [e-mail] (John Varela) wrote:

>>> Ideally you would drag the TIFF Icon into your application's document and
that
>>> would be it.  Since you are having problems with that, perhaps you can
drag the
>>> TIFF to the clipboard app.  I'm not sure where it is in the folders

>> Thanks that was what I was looking for: a way to get it straight into the
clipboard
>> without the need to open up a graphic application. However, still fail to
find a way
>> to do that and I am completely unaware where to find the clipboard to put
it into.

> I see I misunderstood what you were trying to do.

No problem. Thanks for all the help once again.

I think (see the other post) I would have to go the "clipboard-route)
anyway, also if the simple import pickup-and-drop would work for the
TIF-files I tried to do it with in IBMworks. It seems to be the only way
to get control over where the picture is put in the multipage-document.

> I use a freeware multiclipboard program called ManyClip, and I know
> where to find its icon.  Unfortunately, pickup/drop doesn't work with

Must say I am very, very <g> sorry to hear that.

Regards from Leeuwarden
Peter van Dobben de Bruijn
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From: [e-mail]                                     27-Oct-99 16:20:26
  To: All                                               28-Oct-99 10:23:17
Subj: Re: Instructions: How To Build An OS/2 Computer

From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Bj=F8rn?= Vermo <[e-mail]>

Ron Gibson wrote:

>
> I don't know where you're shopping at but to get the same machine that I
> just built, no on board components, with a mid size tower it would
> have cost me over $1200.  Mine cost $700, a PII-400.  And it works with
> ALL operating systems.
>

No doubt there are some expensive dealers around, but if the $1200 you mention
are of the US kind, it seems very high for the kind of machine you describe. I
can buy a PII-400 HP Vectra or IBM PC  from the nearest dealer for less than
that. We do have very fierce competition around here, but still...

700 USD to build a top-notch PII-400 equipped computer, on the other hand,
sounds good. I would have to buy parts at wholesale prices to match that with
quality components.

No doubt it is still possible for the knowledgeable home builder to save by
building exactly the ideal configuration for his needs, but it requires a lot
of time spent shopping for parts. Even the small system integrators are forced
out of the market because they are no longer able to deliver better
price/performance than the big, automated manufacturers. The few who are still
alive around here, buy most of their parts directly from the factory in Taiwan
or Korea.


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From: [e-mail]                                     27-Oct-99 16:38:11
  To: All                                               28-Oct-99 10:23:17
Subj: Re: GAH! Got a Trap error on our print server! Help!

From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Bj=F8rn?= Vermo <[e-mail]>

Siobhan Perricone wrote:

> ...  I don't know how
> to see if my LAN card (I have two of them) is sharing an IRQ with the
> AIC7870.  They should NOT be, this was working just fine before, and it
> was quite painful going through the set up on this system.
>

If one of more of the cards in your system support plug and play, and if
that has been activated at any time, that may explain why things cease to
work. Few things are more frustrating than a system where SOME ofthe
adapters decide to use pnp to reconfigure themselves.

>
> Again, I don't want to seem ungrateful, but I really need you to give
> me details on how to do these things.  WHERE is the updated driver?
>

One thing you ought to keep an eye on, is the IBM websites. Not only for
this problem, but as a generally useful resource. OS/2 systems come with a
set of URLs for appropriate websites. Some ofthem get outdated, but they
usually redirect you to a place where it is possible to search for what you
need.

You will find most things from www.ibm.com by using the search function, or
by going to the products page and selecting either the Warp server or
client as appropriate. IBM have switched their page structure around
before, so this is the most reliable way to find something in the more
distant future. For now, I'm sure you will get exact pointers to what you
need.


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From: [e-mail]                                    27-Oct-99 14:10:14
  To: All                                               28-Oct-99 10:23:17
Subj: Re: FP12 trap. Pls help

From: [e-mail]

I seem to have done the same thing.

Only problem is that after backing out to FP 10, I am left with the same
problem. I tried rem'ing out the config sys lines for Process commander,
but it still didn't work. Are there lines of PC that are not obvious that
I might have missed ? I can get to a command prompt to do some limited
adjustments. Any help is greatly appreciated. I am not looking forward to
a re-install.

Alex

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From: [e-mail]                                     27-Oct-99 15:40:05
  To: All                                               28-Oct-99 10:23:17
Subj: Re: Warp Server not able to get available memory

From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Bj=F8rn?= Vermo <[e-mail]>

Ilya Zakharevich wrote:

>
> You cannot have more than circa 220M of virtual memory allocated by an
> application (at least with the "standard" setup).  Some people claim
> that tweaking things a bit here and a bit there moves this boundary,
> but only a tiny bit.
>

This is not a normal application, it is DB/2. I seem to recall that it made
good use of 2GB RAM in a previous version under OS/2 2.1. At least, the
server was much more responsive with more memory in it.


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From: [e-mail]                             27-Oct-99 09:19:21
  To: All                                               28-Oct-99 10:23:17
Subj: Re: New OS/2 device driver development

From: "David T. Johnson" <[e-mail]>


OS/2 Device Driver Project wrote:
>
> Due to the current (sad) state of OS/2 device driver development, I've
decided
> to try and start a project for getting new device drivers written for OS/2.
> It's an attempt to match device driver demand with OS/2 developers.  I'd
like
> to orgranize OS/2 users and try to get a feel for what device drivers are
needed,
> and how many people need what, etc.
>
> Part of my idea is to organize a sort of 'buying pool' for device drivers,
where
> individuals will agree to pay $X to sponsor development of a driver for
device X,
> then have available OS/2 driver developers 'bid' for the project.
>
> I'd like some input from users who have devices they'd like to see drivers
for,
> and also driver developers.
>
> I think it's naive to believe 'somebody' is going to write all the drivers
that we
> need.  I also think it's naive to beleive that we're going to get everything
we
> want for free.  We need to organize the demand and the talent, and put them
> together.
>

Well, the driver situation isn't great but, IMO, it isn't terrible
either.  The single biggest driver issue right now for OS/2 is getting
motherboard BIOSs that will allow OS/2 to find more than 64 MB of DRAM.
Many of the BIOS versions have an OS/2 memory > 64MB option but it often
does not work properly.  And yes, this isn't really a 'driver' issue but
it is important.

As for drivers, I suppose a host signal processor (HSP) modem driver
would be helpful though I strongly prefer the traditional DSP modems.

While many would undoubtedly disagree, I think video and printers are in
pretty fair shape for OS/2 drivers.  Sound cards, not so good, though
some pretty good PCI drivers exist, particularly Aureal's Vortex 1
drivers.  Win-OS2 sound is mostly not supported with new PCI sound cards
but not something that many OS/2 users miss, IMO.

Both IBM and the famous DANIS506 drivers are implementing support for
DMA/66 IDE drives.  Removable drives of various types are pretty well
supported by IBM.

So perhaps the most helpful drivers would be AGP 2x and 4x drivers and
USB scanner drivers.

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From: [e-mail]                      27-Oct-99 16:16:18
  To: All                                               28-Oct-99 10:23:17
Subj: Re: New OS/2 device driver development

From: [e-mail]

In article <[e-mail]>,
  [e-mail] wrote:

> There is already a similar project in development. Warpicity,
> conceived by Lynn Maxson and spearheaded by VOICE proposes to do this
> very thing ... solicit developers to write new Device Drivers (and
> other changes/enhancements to the OS/2 Operating System) .. and PAY
> them for their work.

Yes, but Lynn is insane. ;) Seriously tho, I haven't heard that Lynn
has finished his compiler yet, so what do you do in the meantime?

--
-Steven Hunter               *OS/2 Warp 4 * |
[e-mail] *AMD K6-2 400* |


Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.

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From: [e-mail]                             27-Oct-99 12:54:05
  To: All                                               28-Oct-99 10:23:17
Subj: Re: New OS/2 device driver development

From: Alan Beagley <[e-mail]>

I thought that this OS/2 memory > 64MB setting was needed only for ancient
versions of
OS/2:  2.1x or older.

Warp 4 finds 128MB of RAM just fine on my Asus P2B-LS mobo.

Alan


"David T. Johnson" wrote:

> Well, the driver situation isn't great but, IMO, it isn't terrible
> either.  The single biggest driver issue right now for OS/2 is getting
> motherboard BIOSs that will allow OS/2 to find more than 64 MB of DRAM.
> Many of the BIOS versions have an OS/2 memory > 64MB option but it often
> does not work properly.  And yes, this isn't really a 'driver' issue but
> it is important.

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From: [e-mail]                                27-Oct-99 13:29:18
  To: All                                               28-Oct-99 10:23:17
Subj: Re: Bootos2 options

From: [e-mail]

[e-mail] (Raphael Tennenbaum) said:

>It's really hard for me to imagine you've been using OS/2 as
>long as you have and can't fathom that the options listed

As I said, I have stayed as far away from command line ANYTHING as possible.
This is the first time, anywhere, I have seen command line switches referred
to
as SYNTAX.  Maybe that is common as fleas on a dog where you hang out, but it
is
the only place I've seen it.  From what little I know about command line stuff
that long list of stuff would not fit on any command line anywhere - not even
half of it.  Therefore I thought it must be something unusual I'd never heard
of.  You see, not everybody eats, sleeps and breathes computer lingo.  I don't
use OS/2 because, as somebody said, I like the fact that it is difficult.  I
use
it do do things.  I had bootos2 in my computer archives well over a year
trying
to make sense of its "instructions."

I dare say there are some disciplines in which I could think circles around
some
computer geniuses.  But I would not ridicule them just because their expertise
is in a different field than mine.

And...  It's really hard for me to imagine it would require a specially
trained
technical writer to simply say this "syntax" is the same thing as command line
switches.

This is the thing I hate about OS/2 the most.  The idea that you have to think
like a computer hacker to use it, and the idea that you're some kind of freak
if
you don't.

Jim L
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Crooks and kooks will get guns regardless of laws.


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From: [e-mail]                             27-Oct-99 17:45:20
  To: All                                               28-Oct-99 10:23:17
Subj: Re: Changing CDROM

From: [e-mail] (Ron Gibson)

On Wed, 27 Oct 1999 13:25:57, [e-mail] (Kevin Croxen)
wrote:

> Nevertheless, Lorne is correct. This was a very well-documented
> change that took place with fixpack 3. And it generated a lot of
> usenet traffic in '97 when people discovered that their freshly
> fixpack-3'ed systems were hanging at boot with 1ibms506.add
> failing to load because the CD was on slave with an open master
> on controller.

Well what can I say except it works fine with W98, W31, OS/2 and Linux.

And I seen other post the same results.  In fact that's where I got my
idea.

                      email: [e-mail]

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From: [e-mail]                          27-Oct-99 17:50:21
  To: All                                               28-Oct-99 10:23:17
Subj: Re: Pimple on my desktop's face

From: [e-mail] (Annie K.)

On Wed, 27 Oct 1999 03:09:02, [e-mail] wrote:

:Somewhere along the way a new object has appeared on my desktop.  It bears
the
:DOS window icon.  Its name is MAKEDSKS.BAT.
:
:An RMB on this object gets me a menu without a delete item on it.  Properties
:indicates its home only as desktop.  If I attempt to drag it onto my
shredder, I
:get the "Big No-no" sign (minus sign) on the dragging icon.

 Delete it from the command line.

--
Klaatu barada nikto

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From: [e-mail]                                27-Oct-99 13:53:26
  To: All                                               28-Oct-99 10:23:17
Subj: Re: Pimple on my desktop's face

From: [e-mail]

[e-mail] (Kevin Croxen) said:

>Did you try from a command prompt:  attrib -r  c:\desktop\makedsks.bat  to
>render the object non read-only, then deleting it? The object crept in from
>the root directory of the Warp CD,

I reset the attributes using File Freedom.  It still wouldn't go into the
shredder.

Then... As many times as I have looked in the DESKTOP directory and found no
files at all, I looked again.  There was the file, big as you please.  I
deleted
it - again using File Freedom - and voila, it was gone.

Jim L
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From: [e-mail]                                27-Oct-99 13:19:14
  To: All                                               28-Oct-99 10:23:17
Subj: Help with helps

From: [e-mail]

Where on my system can I find help for working with DSK files?  I have tried
at
the command line "help dsk" and "help loaddskf" (among other things).  If IBM
is
so determined to keep using floppy technology there must be info about it
somewhere.

Jim L
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From: [e-mail]                           27-Oct-99 14:03:17
  To: All                                               28-Oct-99 10:23:17
Subj: Unable to close certain programs...help...

From: "RichS" <[e-mail]>

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I've recently run into a problem that hopefully someone can offer help with.

Two programs I use; junkbuster 2.02 and JunkSpy (beta from Sundial Systems);
can not be closed, terminated or otherwise gotten rid of once started.
Junkbuster is an emx program, Junkspy is a PM app. Other emx programs work
(and quit) just fine (I have 9d, fix2 installed). I haven't had this problem
with any other software including the OS/2 Seti client that is also emx.
Although my system has had some radical reconstruction done lately after a
Scitech SDDb7 install fiasco. I'm running Warp 4 fixpack 12, DD001 right now
and everything else seems to work just fine. Except EscapeGL 3.0, which is
why I've been trying to shutdown now and then; having to close the above
programs in the process...  But that's (hopefully, or not?) a different
problem and being worked on with the help of SnowStorm Software...

I can get junkbuster to close by renaming the block.ijb file and then sending
a call through it. But a legitimate close (control-c) stops the program but
won't exit. Process Commander says "Processing exit list" and nothing will
kill it...

If I try to close JunkSpy, I just lock up and can't go any further....

This _may_ be a problem with these two programs... JunkSpy is a beta... But
Junkbuster is run by a lot of people who have no problems with it....

So the big question is... Is there anything in the system that would prevent
a program from closing? Any settings that might help? A lot of things have
changed on this machine since the crash. But I've successfully reinstalled my
S3 video drivers and run Unimaint and checkini until there is nothing left to
report let alone fix...
I'm at a loss and hope someone out there has a clue...

Thanks in advance...

Rich...

******************************************************************************
Practice Random Acts of Kindness and Senseless...Umm...Uhh....
Oh - Heck...I never could remember all that "nice" stuff.
-
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From: [e-mail]                                27-Oct-99 15:20:06
  To: All                                               28-Oct-99 10:23:18
Subj: Re: Bootos2 options

From: [e-mail]

"RichS" <[e-mail]> said:

>GUI's have not helped at all.

Excellent point.  And excellent reply.  Thank you.

Jim L
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From: [e-mail]                            27-Oct-99 15:26:24
  To: All                                               28-Oct-99 10:23:18
Subj: sys02025!! & sys02027!!

From: "Valheru" <[e-mail]>

I downloaded a warp v3 GA boot disk image and tried to use loadsdkf to
expand it to a 1.44 floppy but it stopped at 76% and said it couldn't read
the source drive. I then used xdfcopy and it wrote to the disk but upon
verify it stopped at 76% and said it couldn't the floppy or source file.
After comparing the included bootwarp.dir file to the newly created floppy
image it looked as though they were identical but when I try to boot up
fromt the floppy I get the following error:

sys02025!!
sys02027!!

It just sits there and doesn't go any further. Is the bootwarp.dsk bad? Let
me know what you think. I have attached the file, in a seperate post due to
post size resrtiction, that I was using to make the
bootable floppy for inspection. Thanks


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From: doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net                     27-Oct-99 19:35:13
  To: All                                               28-Oct-99 10:23:18
Subj: Re: Changing CDROM

From: doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net (Doug Bissett)

On Mon, 25 Oct 1999 23:18:36, [e-mail] wrote:

> Thanks.  It was slave on IDE2 with no master (works with NT).  As master
> it was fine and as slave with a master it is fine.  I guess OS2 is a
> little picky compared to NT.
>
> Patrick
>

In fact, a slave, with no master should NOT work, at all, in any
operating system. OS/2 is just enforcing the "rules" that should
always be followed. I have no idea why, or how, these devices actually
do work without a master to run them.
******************************
From the PC of Doug Bissett
doug.bissett at attglobal.net
The " at " must be changed to "@"
******************************

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From: doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net                     27-Oct-99 19:35:14
  To: All                                               28-Oct-99 10:23:18
Subj: Re: Modem Settings

From: doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net (Doug Bissett)

On Tue, 26 Oct 1999 17:04:43, "Paul M. Pilon"
<[e-mail]> wrote:

> I apologize in advance if what follows seems trivial, but here goes.
>
> I currently have my new modem jumpered for COM 3, and IRQ 3.  These were
> jumper settings on my old modem which was originally installed back in the
> Dark Ages when I ran Win 3.11.  When I installed the new modem, I made no
> changes in the COM.SYS statement of my CONFIG.SYS which reads
> DEVICE=C:\OS2\BOOT\COM.SYS.
>
> Having done an RMVIEW /IRQ, I get the following output for IRQ3:
>     IRQ Level =  3  PCI Pin = NONE  Flg = MULTIPLEXED  SERIAL_2 Serial
> Controller
>     IRQ Level =  3  PCI Pin = NONE  Flg = MULTIPLEXED  SERIAL_3 Serial
> Controller
>
> Is there a problem, or potential problem with this?  My system is currently
> operating just fine, and has been for some months.  I am about to make some
> changes which will necessitate reinstalling OS/2, and want to get things as
> near to perfect for it as possible.  What would be the "standard" or best
> settings?
>
> Thanks in advance to all who apply
>
>
>
> **************************************************************
> "I have the male 'work avoidance chromosome'.
> I can detect unnecessary work, thereby avoiding it."
> -- Dilbert
>
> Paul M. Pilon
> Halifax, NS Canada
> [e-mail]
> To reply, get rid of the 3 "red"s .
> **************************************************************
>
>

You have two com ports (Com2, and Com3), set to use the SAME IRQ.
Sometimes, this will work, but most of the time, it is definitely NOT
a good idea (even if you don't use one of them, and even in systems
like Win31, or plain DOS).

I suspect that what you have, is a couple of onboard COM ports (could
be on an I/O card), that would default to Com1, address 3F8, IRQ4, and
Com2, address 2F8, IRQ3. You have added Com3, (probably) address 3E8,
at IRQ3. This gives you two devices attached to IRQ3, which WILL,
eventually, cause hangs (perhaps, not often enough to realize what is
causing the hang).

What you need to do, is either change the IRQ to something else, that
is not being used, or, disable COM2, wherever it may be. You may need
to add parameters to the COM.SYS line (do HELP COM.SYS from a command
line), or change the modem to be COM2, address 2F8, IRQ3.

Hope this helps...
******************************
From the PC of Doug Bissett
doug.bissett at attglobal.net
The " at " must be changed to "@"
******************************

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From: [e-mail]                                27-Oct-99 13:58:04
  To: All                                               28-Oct-99 10:23:18
Subj: Re: Pimple on my desktop's face

From: [e-mail]

"Graham C. Norris" <[e-mail]> said:

>Drag it to a floppy. Remove floppy. Gone!

Hmmmmmmmmmmm............

Just to check this out, I drug a new instance of it to my desktop from the cd.

Dragging it to floppy merely copied it, but using MOVE (to floppy) from the
menu
worked.

I hope I can remember that. <g>

Jim L
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From: [e-mail]                             27-Oct-99 17:49:28
  To: All                                               28-Oct-99 10:23:18
Subj: Re: Instructions: How To Build An OS/2 Computer

From: [e-mail] (Ron Gibson)

On Wed, 27 Oct 1999 14:20:52, =?iso-8859-1?Q?Bj=F8rn?= Vermo
<[e-mail]> wrote:

> No doubt there are some expensive dealers around, but if the $1200 you
mention
> are of the US kind, it seems very high for the kind of machine you describe.
I
> can buy a PII-400 HP Vectra or IBM PC  from the nearest dealer for less than
> that. We do have very fierce competition around here, but still...

And that will be with on board video and sound no doubt.  Now, what do
you do when you need another MOBO and can't find one for less that $400
from HP. No thanks...

You get what you pay for and every low cost system I saw was junk,
whether it was Compaq or HP.

And funny thing is I still did better than the closest prices I saw.

                      email: [e-mail]

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From: [e-mail]                                27-Oct-99 13:48:16
  To: All                                               28-Oct-99 10:23:18
Subj: Re: Bootos2 options

From: [e-mail]

[e-mail] (Raphael Tennenbaum) said:

>as BOOTOS2 is made and documented is that if you DON'T
>understand how it will work or can't be bothered to read the
>documentation to figure how it will work then you SHOULDN'T
>be using it.

Ah yes.  Elitism once again rears its ugly head.  You're a genius and I'm not
so
I shouldn't have what is touted as the best utility disks available for OS/2.

I could write all day on the subject of this despicable attitude.

Jim L
Remove XX from address to Email
Crooks and kooks will get guns regardless of laws.


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From: [e-mail]                                27-Oct-99 13:51:16
  To: All                                               28-Oct-99 10:23:18
Subj: Re: Is my blood boiling...

From: [e-mail]

[e-mail] (Esther Schindler) said:

>Well, either that says something about the quality and responsiveness
>of your ISP, or

I think it simply says they are sheep in the M$ fold.

Jim L
Remove XX from address to Email
Crooks and kooks will get guns regardless of laws.


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From: [e-mail]                      27-Oct-99 15:16:21
  To: All                                               28-Oct-99 10:23:18
Subj: Re: Is my blood boiling...

From: [e-mail]       (John Thompson)

In <[e-mail]>, "OS/2 Fan"
<[e-mail]> writes:

>    Yes, I tried SO5.1 under Warp 4 FP 9, with no luck, I'm
>afraid.  I would have been OK with HTML format also, but the contents
>of the .doc files they sent in the CD shall remain a mystery to me...

Have you tried Microsoft's "Word Viewer" program?  It's a free
download from Microsoft and the 16-bit version runs fine in
Win-OS/2.  You can only view or print the document from the
viewer but it seems to work pretty well for that. You can also
copy text into the clipboard and paste it into an OS/2
application if you need to edit it at all.

-John ([e-mail])

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From: [e-mail]                           27-Oct-99 14:34:01
  To: All                                               28-Oct-99 10:23:18
Subj: Re: Bootos2 options

From: "RichS" <[e-mail]>

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On Wed, 27 Oct 1999 13:48:33 -0400, [e-mail] wrote:

>[e-mail] (Raphael Tennenbaum) said:
>
>>as BOOTOS2 is made and documented is that if you DON'T
>>understand how it will work or can't be bothered to read the
>>documentation to figure how it will work then you SHOULDN'T
>>be using it.
>
>Ah yes.  Elitism once again rears its ugly head.  You're a genius and I'm not
so
>I shouldn't have what is touted as the best utility disks available for OS/2.
>
>I could write all day on the subject of this despicable attitude.
>
>Jim L
>Remove XX from address to Email
>Crooks and kooks will get guns regardless of laws.
>
>
And you'd be 100% right, although no everyone has that 'attitude' malicously.
It comes naturally over the years ;-)

The docs to bootos2 have always been bad and I hate using the program for
that reason. Seems everytime I try it (a new version), I read the docs, get
frustrated and wind up going back to "Create Utility Disks"...

I do come across it everyday from the opposite end though as tech support. I
constantly hear "What do you mean 'right click'", or "How do I get a
directory", etc.... It is very easy for us to forget that not eveyone knows
everything about computers and it's very easy to get a bit flip or even
intolerant with people who seem 'stupid' (which is a rather nasty way to
express it). It's even worse when the people 'who know' have to ask a 'stupid
question', which I do all the time ;-)  GUI's have not helped at all. It's
just what people are used to using, or not in this case...

On another note, your other post above about loaddskf... Getting used to
command lines does have benefits. I usually try the program name followed by
"/?" (no quotes) first off to see what commands it accepts. The basics of
'anything in braces is optional' should be understood such as " [c] " (again
no quotes). The arguement of 'c' would be optional and/or cause something
else done by the program. But a fulle discusion of command line programs
would be something else. I might recommend a quick read of an old DOS book
since everything there would be command line oriented and offer the basic
explanations. But to loaddskf... I have the old IBM release of both the
loaddskf and savedskf (which creates the files from floppies). It comes with
documentations that may help. It's pretty small zipped and I'll send it to
you. I would tell you where to download it here, but who rmembers? ;-)

Good luck, and if you have any command line questions, you could always ask
me though email. I don't know everything (as my questions for help show other
places), but I'm always willing to share...

Rich...

******************************************************************************
Practice Random Acts of Kindness and Senseless...Umm...Uhh....
Oh - Heck...I never could remember all that "nice" stuff.
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From: nospam@null                                       27-Oct-99 23:38:03
  To: All                                               28-Oct-99 10:23:18
Subj: Re: what brand and model PC today to buy for OS/2 ?

From: nospam@null (Richard A Crane)

On Thu, 21 Oct 1999 20:24:41, Zeus Paleologos <[e-mail]>
wrote:

[snip]
> I have a few questions:
>
> 1 - Regarding OS/2, does it matter whether I choose a PC model with
>     a Celeron, Pentium II or Pentium III processor ?
NO
> 2 - Does OS/2 handle large ( > 2GBytes) HDD's ?  I understand it is a
>     major headache to configure a PC and partition a large HDD today
>     to allow the booting and running of either Win98, Linux, or OS/2
>     on the same unit.
Yes
> 3 - Do Hewlett-Packard (Pavillon) model PCs run OS/2 acceptably ?  I
>     notice that no OS/2 drivers are available for the R series HP
>     printer/scanner/copiers.  Should I forget these kind of all-in-one
>     units if I plan to run OS/2?
Probably - but I'm not sure.
> 4 - Should I plan on installing Warp 4 on whatever I get or will
>     Warp 3 still be a possibility ?
Go for Warp 4 - 3 has so many different "flavours" and some of them are now
not
going to have any more IBM "fix" packs.
Just my opinion others may vary
Richard A Crane
Check Copyright of this with the author or you may suffer litigation or
embarrassment.

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From: nospam@null                                       27-Oct-99 23:37:24
  To: All                                               28-Oct-99 10:23:18
Subj: Re: GAH! Got a Trap error on our print server! Help!

From: nospam@null (Richard A Crane)

On Tue, 26 Oct 1999 15:56:56, Siobhan Perricone <[e-mail]>
wrote:
[snip]
> > He won't know what to do with it, I would think. First thing you
> should do is
> > get the latest version of the driver from the online ddpak. It's dtd
> 4/99.
> > Second thing to do is to see whether your LAN card is sharing an IRQ
> with the
> > AIC7870.  Perhaps one of the drivers is defective in its interrupt
> sharing.
>
> IF what you're saying is going to mean anything to me, you have *got*
> to take time to be detailed in your responses to me.  I grok that I
> need an updated driver, but I don't know where it is.
> --
1.     The "online ddpak" is a reference to the online site for device drivers
run
by IBM - the easiest way to locate it and access it is through installing the
OS/2 Device Driver CD which comes with WARP 4 or the URl which may wrap is
http://ps.software.ibm.com/pbin-usa-ps/getobj.pl?/pdocs-usa/otherservices.html.

2.    "rmview" from a command line in OS/2 gives all sots of info about most bits

of the system and I suggest it as a start for IRQ checking.
3.    You mentioned in another post wanting info on CHKDSK's results and where
its
logged as far as I know its in the root directory of each disc and called
chkdsk.log and chkdsk.old but you need something (sorry I can't remember what
its called but I think its found from the URl I gave above) from IBM to
"format"
the results into something intelligible.
4.    And noting some of your comments I also add that looking with "e.exe" or
"tedit.exe" at the file "POPUP.LOG" can often help with problems - you may
know
this already so I'm sorry if I'm teaching granny to suck eggs.
5.    Lucidity of expression is a big factor in these newsgroups - I find that I
sometimes have to (re) state (and I thought I was just repeating myself) the
problem twice or more to get responses addressing the problem- so I recommend
a
large dose of patience in them. :)
Richard A Crane
Check Copyright of this with the author or you may suffer litigation or
embarrassment.

ps General Protection Fault ... Retry or Replace General and continue?
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From: nospam@null                                       27-Oct-99 23:39:08
  To: All                                               28-Oct-99 10:23:18
Subj: (1/2) Warp 4, Fixpak 12

From: nospam@null (Richard A Crane)

I have had trouble with Warp 4 fix Pak 12 via RSU - it wont boot my fp9 drive
which has the following (syslevel and config.sys attached) but will boot my C
drive un "fix pak"ed config.sys attched.
C:\IBMINST\SYSLEVEL.WCB
OS/2 Warp Networking Services Installation
Version 4.00     Component ID 5939a9200
Current CSD level: IP08400
Prior   CSD level: IP08400

C:\OS2\INSTALL\SYSLEVEL.OS2
IBM OS/2 Base Operating System
Version 4.00     Component ID 5639A6100
Type 0C
Current CSD level: XR0M012
Prior   CSD level: XR04000

C:\OS2\INSTALL\SYSLEVEL.SDS
Distributed SOM Framework
Version 2.01.5     Component ID 562222700
Current CSD level: SM20012
Prior   CSD level: NONE

C:\OS2\INSTALL\SYSLEVEL.SEM
SOM Event Management Framework
Version 2.01.5     Component ID 562222700
Current CSD level: SM20012
Prior   CSD level: NONE

C:\OS2\INSTALL\SYSLEVEL.SUT
SOMobjects Utility Classes
Version 2.01.5     Component ID 562222700
Current CSD level: SM20012
Prior   CSD level: NONE

C:\OS2\INSTALL\SYSLEVEL.SIR
SOMobjects Interface Repository Framework
Version 2.01.5     Component ID 562222700
Current CSD level: SM20012
Prior   CSD level: NONE

C:\OS2\INSTALL\SYSLEVEL.SRK
SOM Run-time Kernel
Version 2.01.5     Component ID 562222700
Current CSD level: SM20012
Prior   CSD level: NONE

C:\OS2\INSTALL\SYSLEVEL.GRE
IBM OS/2 32-bit Graphics Engine
Version 4.00     Component ID 5639A6100
Type 0C
Current CSD level: XR04000
Prior   CSD level: XR04000

C:\OS2\INSTALL\SYSLEVEL.FPK
OS/2 Warp 4 Service Level
Version 1.00     Component ID 566933010
Type Fixpak
Current CSD level: XR0M012
Prior   CSD level: XR0M012

C:\OS2\INSTALL\SYSLEVEL.BDD
IBM OS/2 Base Device Drivers
Version 4.00     Component ID 5639A6100
Type 0C
Current CSD level: XR04000
Prior   CSD level: XR04000

C:\TCPIP\BIN\SYSLEVEL.TCP
IBM TCP/IP for Warp
Version 4.00     Component ID 5639A6600
Current CSD level: UN00000
Prior   CSD level: UN00000

C:\TCPIP\BIN\SYSLEVEL.IAK
 IBM Internet Connection for Warp
Version 4.00     Component ID 5639A6400
Current CSD level: UN00000
Prior   CSD level: UN00000

C:\TCPIP\BIN\SYSLEVEL.DBX
IBM OS/2 TCPIP DOS Windows
Version 4.00     Component ID 5639A6500
Current CSD level: UN00000
Prior   CSD level: UN00000

C:\TCPIP\UMAIL\SYSLEVEL.UML
IBM Ultimedia Mail Lite Client for OS/2
Version 2.10.4     Component ID 562260112
Type    0613A
Current CSD level: XR21588
Prior   CSD level: XR21588

C:\TCPIP\PCOMOS2\SYSLEVEL.PCS
IBM Personal Communications AS/400 and 3270 for OS/2 - TCP/IP Entry Level
Version 4.10.1     Component ID 5639A3300
Current CSD level: WR00000
Prior   CSD level: WR00000

C:\CID\LOCINSTU\SYSLEVEL.LCU
IBM LAN CID Utility
Version 5.10     Component ID 5639A5700
Current CSD level: WR08400
Prior   CSD level: WR08210

C:\DMISL\SYSLEVEL.DMI
IBM OS/2 DMTF Service Layer
Version 1.10     Component ID 576562200
Current CSD level: CA00000
Prior   CSD level: CA00000

C:\IBMCOM\SYSLEVEL.TRP
IBM OS/2 LAN Adapter and Protocol Support
Version 5.10     Component ID 5639A5700
Current CSD level: WR08400
Prior   CSD level: WR08210

C:\MPTN\SYSLEVEL.DHC
IBM OS/2 Dynamic Host Configuration Protocol Services
Version 4.00     Component ID 562290901
Current CSD level: WR08400
Prior   CSD level: WR08210

C:\MPTN\SYSLEVEL.MPT
IBM OS/2 TCP/IP Stack
Version 5.10     Component ID 5639B1700
Current CSD level: WR08400
Prior   CSD level: WR08210

C:\IBMI18N\SYSLEVEL.I18
IBM I18N Toolkit
Version 1.05     Component ID 5639A5700
Current CSD level: WR08400
Prior   CSD level: WR08210

F:\CID\LOCINSTU\SYSLEVEL.LCU
IBM LAN CID Utility
Version 5.10     Component ID 5639A5700
Current CSD level: WR08400
Prior   CSD level: WR08210

F:\DMISL\SYSLEVEL.DMI
IBM OS/2 DMTF Service Layer
Version 1.10     Component ID 576562200
Current CSD level: CA00000
Prior   CSD level: CA00000

F:\features\fisetup\SYSLEVEL.FIA
IBM OS/2 Feature Install
Version 1.23     Component ID 5639C7300
Type ASD
Current CSD level: XR03100
Prior   CSD level: XR03100

F:\IBMCOM\SYSLEVEL.TRP
IBM OS/2 LAN Adapter and Protocol Support
Version 5.10     Component ID 5639A5700
Current CSD level: WR08400
Prior   CSD level: WR08210

F:\IBMI18N\SYSLEVEL.I18
IBM I18N Toolkit
Version 1.09     Component ID 5639A5700
Current CSD level: WR08620
Prior   CSD level: WR08610

F:\IBMINST\SYSLEVEL.WCB
OS/2 Warp Networking Services Installation
Version 4.00     Component ID 5939a9200
Current CSD level: IP08400
Prior   CSD level: IP08400

F:\javaos2\bin\SYSLEVEL.JAV
Java Runtime
Version 4.00     Component ID 5639B3300
Current CSD level: XR04000
Prior   CSD level: XR04000

F:\javaos2\dll\SYSLEVEL.JEP
JEmpower
Version 4.00     Component ID 5639B3300
Current CSD level: XR04000
Prior   CSD level: XR04000

F:\MPTN\SYSLEVEL.DHC
IBM OS/2 Dynamic Host Configuration Protocol Services
Version 4.00     Component ID 562290901
Current CSD level: WR08400
Prior   CSD level: WR08210

F:\MPTN\SYSLEVEL.MPT
IBM OS/2 TCP/IP Stack
Version 5.10     Component ID 5639B1700
Current CSD level: WR08400
Prior   CSD level: WR08210

F:\opendoc\bin\SYSLEVEL.ODC
OpenDoc
Version 1.00     Component ID 5639B3100
Current CSD level: XR01000
Prior   CSD level: XR01000

F:\OS2\DLL\SYSLEVEL.FIA
IBM OS/2 Feature Install
Version 1.23     Component ID 5639C7300
Type ASD
Current CSD level: XR03100
Prior   CSD level: XR03100

F:\OS2\INSTALL\SYSLEVEL.BDD
IBM OS/2 Base Device Drivers
Version 4.00     Component ID 5639A6100
Type 0C
Current CSD level: XR04000
Prior   CSD level: XR04000

F:\OS2\INSTALL\SYSLEVEL.FPK
OS/2 Warp 4 Service Level
Version 1.00     Component ID 566933010
Type Fixpak
Current CSD level: XR0M009
Prior   CSD level: XR0M009

F:\OS2\INSTALL\SYSLEVEL.GEG
IBM OS/2 Generic SVGA (GENGRADD) Driver
Version 1.00     Component ID 562107701
Type GRADD
Current CSD level: XR03010
Prior   CSD level: XR02100

F:\OS2\INSTALL\SYSLEVEL.GRE
IBM OS/2 32-bit Graphics Engine
Version 4.00     Component ID 5639A6100
Type 0C
Current CSD level: XR04000
Prior   CSD level: XR04000

F:\OS2\INSTALL\SYSLEVEL.OS2
IBM OS/2 Base Operating System
Version 4.00     Component ID 5639A6100
Type 0C
Current CSD level: XR04000
Prior   CSD level: XR04000

F:\OS2\INSTALL\SYSLEVEL.S3G
IBM OS/2 S3 864/Trio (S3GRADD) Driver
Version 1.00     Component ID 562107701
Type GRADD
Current CSD level: XR03010
Prior   CSD level: XR02100

F:\OS2\INSTALL\SYSLEVEL.SDS
Distributed SOM Framework
Version 2.01.5     Component ID 562222700
Current CSD level: SM20012
Prior   CSD level: NONE

F:\OS2\INSTALL\SYSLEVEL.SEM
SOM Event Management Framework
Version 2.01.5     Component ID 562222700
Current CSD level: SM20012
Prior   CSD level: NONE

F:\OS2\INSTALL\SYSLEVEL.SIR
SOMobjects Interface Repository Framework
Version 2.01.5     Component ID 562222700
Current CSD level: SM20012
Prior   CSD level: NONE

F:\OS2\INSTALL\SYSLEVEL.SRK
SOM Run-time Kernel
Version 2.01.5     Component ID 562222700
Current CSD level: SM20012
Prior   CSD level: NONE

F:\OS2\INSTALL\SYSLEVEL.SUT
SOMobjects Utility Classes
Version 2.01.5     Component ID 562222700
Current CSD level: SM20012
Prior   CSD level: NONE

F:\tcpip\bin\SYSLEVEL.DBX
IBM OS/2 TCPIP DOS Windows
Version 4.10     Component ID 5639A6500
Current CSD level: UN01000
Prior   CSD level: UN00000

F:\tcpip\bin\SYSLEVEL.IAK
 IBM Internet Connection for Warp
Version 4.10     Component ID 5639A6400
Current CSD level: UN01000
Prior   CSD level: UN00000

F:\tcpip\bin\SYSLEVEL.TCP
IBM TCP/IP for Warp - BETA
Version 4.20.9     Component ID 5639A6600
Current CSD level: UN09999
Prior   CSD level: UN00000

F:\tcpip\pcomos2\SYSLEVEL.PCS
IBM Personal Communications AS/400 and 3270 for OS/2 - TCP/IP Entry Level
Version 4.10.1     Component ID 5639A3300
Current CSD level: WR00000
Prior   CSD level: WR00000

F:\tcpip\umail\SYSLEVEL.UML
IBM Ultimedia Mail Lite Client for OS/2
Version 2.10.4     Component ID 562260112
Type    0613A
Current CSD level: XR21588
Prior   CSD level: XR21588

G:\Com4\SYSLEVEL.NN2
Netscape Communicator for OS/2 4.04
Version 4.04     Component ID 5697B8600
Type ASD
Current CSD level: XR00404
Prior   CSD level: XR00404

G:\Com4\SYSLEVEL.PP2
Netscape Communicator for OS/2 4.04-IBM PlugPak
Version 2.10     Component ID 5639D4100
Type ASD
Current CSD level: XR00403
Prior   CSD level: XR00403

G:\Com4\PROGRAM\SYSLEVEL.NN2
Netscape Communicator 4.61 for OS/2 Warp
Version 4.61     Component ID 5697B8600
Type ASD
Current CSD level: XR00461
Prior   CSD level: XR00461

G:\Com4\PROGRAM\SYSLEVEL.PP2
Netscape Communicator 4.61 for OS/2 Warp -IBM PlugPak
Version 3.00     Component ID 5639D4100
Type ASD
Current CSD level: XR00403
Prior   CSD level: XR00403

G:\GU20LITE\SYSLEVEL.GRA
The Graham Utilities LIGHT for OS/2
Version 2.00     Component ID 123456789
Type GRAHAM
Current CSD level: GR02000
Prior   CSD level: GR02000

G:\IBMCOM\SYSLEVEL.TRP
IBM OS/2 LAN Adapter and Protocol Support
Version 5.45     Component ID 5639A5700
Current CSD level: WR08620
Prior   CSD level: WR08610

G:\Java11\bin\SYSLEVEL.JAV
Java Runtime
Version 1.17     Component ID 5639B3300
Current CSD level: XR04007
Prior   CSD level: XR04006

G:\Java11\bin\SYSLEVEL.JTK
Java Toolkit
Version 1.16     Component ID 5639B9600
Current CSD level: XR04006
Prior   CSD level: XR04005

G:\Java11\bin\SYSLEVEL.JUF
Java Unicode Font
Version 1.00     Component ID 5639D7200
Current CSD level: XR04005
Prior   CSD level: XR04005

G:\Java11\demo\SYSLEVEL.JSP
Java Samples
Version 1.16     Component ID 5639B3300
Current CSD level: XR04006
Prior   CSD level: XR04005

G:\Java11\ICATJAVA\bin\SYSLEVEL.ICA
ICAT Debugger
Version 1.02     Component ID 5639C8300
Current CSD level: XR04006
Prior   CSD level: XR04005

G:\Java117\SYSLEVEL.JAV
Java Runtime
Version 1.17     Component ID 5639B3300
Current CSD level: XR04007
Prior   CSD level: XR04006

G:\Java117\SYSLEVEL.JUF
Java Unicode Font
Version 1.00     Component ID 5639D7200
Current CSD level: XR04005
Prior   CSD level: XR04005

G:\Java117\package\SYSLEVEL.JEP
JEmpower J11 JNI
Version 1.10     Component ID 5639C2500
Current CSD level: XR04002
Prior   CSD level: XR04001

G:\mptn\SYSLEVEL.DHC
IBM OS/2 Dynamic Host Configuration Protocol Services
Version 4.30     Component ID 562290901
Current CSD level: WR08620
Prior   CSD level: WR08610

G:\mptn\SYSLEVEL.MPT
IBM OS/2 TCP/IP Stack
Version 5.45     Component ID 5639B1700
Current CSD level: WR08620
Prior   CSD level: WR08610

G:\netscape\SYSLEVEL.NN2
Netscape Navigator for OS/2 2.02-J11:NJ
Version 2.02     Component ID 5697B8600
Type ASD
Current CSD level: XR00204
Prior   CSD level: XR00202

G:\netscape\SYSLEVEL.PP2
Netscape Navigator for OS/2 2.02-IBM PlugPak
Version 1.10     Component ID 5639D4100
Type ASD
Current CSD level: XR00203
Prior   CSD level: XR00203

G:\netscape\JAVA11\SYSLEVEL.JEP
JEmpower J11
Version 1.10     Component ID 5639C2500
Type ASD
Current CSD level: XR04001
Prior   CSD level: XR04000

H:\Com4ver1\PROGRAM\SYSLEVEL.NN2
Netscape Communicator for OS/2 4.04
Version 4.04     Component ID 5697B8600
Type ASD
Current CSD level: XR00404
Prior   CSD level: XR00404

H:\Com4ver1\PROGRAM\SYSLEVEL.PP2
Netscape Communicator for OS/2 4.04-IBM PlugPak
Version 2.10     Component ID 5639D4100
Type ASD
Current CSD level: XR00403
Prior   CSD level: XR00403

H:\mpts\mptn\SYSLEVEL.DHC
IBM OS/2 Dynamic Host Configuration Protocol Services
Version 4.30     Component ID 562290901
Current CSD level: WR08620
Prior   CSD level: WR08610

H:\mpts\mptn\SYSLEVEL.MPT
IBM OS/2 TCP/IP Stack
Version 5.45     Component ID 5639B1700
Current CSD level: WR08620
Prior   CSD level: WR08610

H:\mpts\mptn\i18n\SYSLEVEL.I18
IBM I18N Toolkit
Version 1.09     Component ID 5639A5700
Current CSD level: WR08620
Prior   CSD level: WR08610

H:\tcpip\install\base\SYSLEVEL.DBX
IBM OS/2 TCPIP DOS Windows
Version 4.10     Component ID 5639A6500
Current CSD level: UN01000
Prior   CSD level: UN00000

H:\tcpip\install\base\SYSLEVEL.IAK
 IBM Internet Connection for Warp
Version 4.10     Component ID 5639A6400
Current CSD level: UN01000
Prior   CSD level: UN00000

H:\tcpip\install\base\SYSLEVEL.TCP
IBM TCP/IP for Warp - BETA
Version 4.20.9     Component ID 5639A6600
Current CSD level: UN09999
Prior   CSD level: UN00000

H:\tcpip\install\DHCPSERV\SYSLEVEL.DDN
IBM OS/2 Dynamic Domain Name Server
Version 4.10     Component ID 562293600
Current CSD level: UN01000
Prior   CSD level: UN00959

H:\tcpip\install\DHCPSERV\SYSLEVEL.DHS
IBM OS/2 Dynamic Host Configuration Protocol Server
Version 4.10     Component ID 562293700
Current CSD level: UN01000
Prior   CSD level: UN00959

H:\tcpip\install\nfsos2\SYSLEVEL.NFS
 NFS for TCP/IP on OS/2 2.0 and 2.1
Version 2.00     Component ID 562208600
Current CSD level: UN57064
Prior   CSD level: UN52836

H:\tcpip\install\VPN\SYSLEVEL.VPN
IBM TCP/IP VPN for Warp
Version 4.10     Component ID 5639A6600
Current CSD level: UN01000
Prior   CSD level: UN00000

IFS=F:\OS2\HPFS.IFS /CACHE:2048 /CRECL:64 /AUTOCHECK:FGHC
PROTSHELL=F:\OS2\PMSHELL.EXE
SET USER_INI=F:\OS2\OS2.INI
SET SYSTEM_INI=F:\OS2\OS2SYS.INI
SET OS2_SHELL=F:\OS2\CMD.EXE
SET AUTOSTART=PROGRAMS,TASKLIST,FOLDERS,CONNECTIONS,WARPCENTER
SET RUNWORKPLACE=F:\OS2\PMSHELL.EXE
SET COMSPEC=F:\OS2\CMD.EXE
LIBPATH=G:\Com4\PROGRAM;g:\NETSCAPE;.;H:\LOTUSW4\COMPNENT;H:\LOTUSW4\ORGANIZE;H
:
\LOTUSW4\APPROACH;H:\LOTUSW4\123;F:\opendoc\BIN;F:\OS2\DLL;F:\IBMI18N\DLL;G:\MP
T
N\DLL;G:\IBMCOM\DLL;F:\OS2\MDOS;F:\;F:\OS2\APPS\DLL;F:\BonusPak\ibmworks;F:\Bon
u
sPak\rs231b;G:\JAVA11\DLL;F:\MMOS2\DLL;F:\IBMINST;F:\TCPIP\dll;F:\TCPIP\pcomos2
;
F:\TCPIP\UMAIL;G:\cat;G:\BA2PRO;G:\UNIMAINT;G:\FILESTAR;H:\LOTUSW4\FLG;G:\JAVA1
1
\ICATJAVA\DLL;g:\GU20LITE;H:\fastback\Dll;
SET
PATH=G:\MPTN\BIN;G:\IBMCOM;G:\Com4\PROGRAM;g:\NETSCAPE;F:\OS2;F:\opendoc\BIN;F:
\
OS2\SYSTEM;F:\OS2\MDOS\WINOS2;F:\OS2\INSTALL;F:\;F:\OS2\MDOS;F:\OS2\APPS;F:\Bon
u
sPak\ibmworks;F:\MMOS2;F:\TCPIP\bin;F:\TCPIP\pcomos2;F:\TCPIP\UMAIL;G:\cat;G:\B
A
2PRO;G:\GTU30;G:\FILESTAR;H:\LOTUSW4\COMPNENT;H:\LOTUSW4\ORGANIZE;H:\LOTUSW4\AP
P
ROACH;H:\LOTUSW4\FLG;G:\JAVA11\ICATJAVA\BIN;g:\GU20LITE;G:\JAVA11\BIN;
SET
DPATH=G:\MPTN;G:\IBMCOM;F:\OS2;F:\OS2\SYSTEM;F:\OS2\MDOS\WINOS2;F:\OS2\INSTALL;
F
:\;F:\OS2\BITMAP;F:\OS2\MDOS;F:\OS2\APPS;F:\MMOS2;F:\MMOS2\INSTALL;F:\IBMINST;F
:
\TCPIP\PCOMOS2;G:\JAVA11\ICATJAVA\HELP;g:\GU20LITE;
SET PROMPT=$i[$p]
SET
HELP=G:\MPTN;g:\NETSCAPE;F:\OS2\HELP;F:\opendoc\BIN;F:\BonusPak\askpsp\books;F:
\

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From: nospam@null                                       27-Oct-99 23:39:08
  To: All                                               28-Oct-99 10:23:18
Subj: (2/2) Warp 4, Fixpak 12

BonusPak\ibmworks;F:\MMOS2\HELP;F:\TCPIP\help;F:\TCPIP\UMAIL;G:\BA2PRO;H:\LOTUS
W
4\COMPNENT;H:\LOTUSW4\ORGANIZE;H:\LOTUSW4\APPROACH;H:\LOTUSW4\FLG;H:\LOTUSW4\WO
R
DPRO;H:\LOTUSW4\123;G:\JAVA11\ICATJAVA\HELP;H:\fastback\Help;
SET GLOSSARY=F:\OS2\HELP\GLOSS;
SET IPF_KEYS=SBCS
PRIORITY_DISK_IO=YES
FILES=60
BASEDEV=IBMKBD.SYS
DEVICE=G:\IBMCOM\LANMSGDD.OS2 /I:G:\IBMCOM /S
DEVICE=G:\IBMCOM\PROTMAN.OS2 /I:G:\IBMCOM
DEVICE=F:\OS2\BOOT\TESTCFG.SYS
DEVICE=F:\OS2\BOOT\DOS.SYS
DEVICE=F:\OS2\BOOT\PMDD.SYS
BUFFERS=90
IOPL=YES
DISKCACHE=1024,LW,AC:cde
MAXWAIT=1
MEMMAN=SWAP,PROTECT
SWAPPATH=G:\ 20480 20480
BREAK=OFF
THREADS=1148
PRINTMONBUFSIZE=140,134,134
COUNTRY=001,F:\OS2\SYSTEM\COUNTRY.SYS
SET KEYS=ON
SET
BOOKSHELF=F:\OS2\BOOK;F:\BonusPak\askpsp\books;F:\MMOS2;F:\TCPIP\help;G:\cat;g:
\
GU20LITE;
SET
SOMIR=F:\OS2\ETC\SOM.IR;F:\opendoc\BIN\OPENDOC.IR;F:\OS2\ETC\WPSH.IR;F:\OS2\ETC
\
WPDSERV.IR;F:\OS2\ETC\REXX.IR;H:\LOTUSW4\ETC\WPSC2.IR;H:\LOTUSW4\ETC\ORGANIZE.I
R
;H:\LOTUSW4\ETC\APPROACH.IR;H:\LOTUSW4\ETC\L14SOM.IR;H:\LOTUSW4\ETC\LTSCTO31.IR
;
H:\LOTUSW4\ETC\LTSOMO10.IR;H:\LOTUSW4\ETC\LTSRXO20.IR;H:\LOTUSW4\ETC\LTOLSO20.I
R
;H:\LOTUSW4\ETC\FLG.IR;
SET SOMDDIR=F:\OS2\ETC\DSOM
SET SOMDDEBUG=10
SET SOMDMESSAGELOG=SOMD.LOG
SET ULSPATH=F:\LANGUAGE;
SET LOCPATH=F:\IBMI18N\LOCALE;F:\LANGUAGE\LOCALE;F:\TCPIP\locale;
BASEDEV=TIMER0.SYS
BASEDEV=PRINT01.SYS
BASEDEV=IBM1FLPY.ADD
BASEDEV=IBM2FLPY.ADD
BASEDEV=IBM1S506.ADD /V
BASEDEV=XDFLOPPY.FLT
BASEDEV=OS2DASD.DMD
SET EPMPATH=F:\OS2\APPS;F:\opendoc\BIN;
PROTECTONLY=NO
SHELL=F:\OS2\MDOS\COMMAND.COM F:\OS2\MDOS
FCBS=16,8
RMSIZE=640
DEVICE=F:\OS2\MDOS\VEMM.SYS
DOS=High,UMB
DEVICE=F:\OS2\MDOS\VXMS.SYS /UMB
DEVICE=F:\OS2\MDOS\VDPMI.SYS
DEVICE=F:\OS2\MDOS\VDPX.SYS
DEVICE=F:\OS2\MDOS\VWIN.SYS
DEVICE=F:\OS2\MDOS\VW32S.SYS
BASEDEV=OS2SCSI.DMD
BASEDEV=FLASHPT.ADD
DEVICE=F:\OS2\BOOT\OS2CDROM.DMD /V
IFS=F:\OS2\BOOT\CDFS.IFS /V
DEVICE=F:\OS2\MDOS\VCDROM.SYS
REM *** rem out next line when panasonic driver installed ***
BASEDEV=IBMIDECD.FLT
DEVICE=F:\OS2\MDOS\VMOUSE.SYS
DEVICE=F:\OS2\BOOT\POINTDD.SYS
DEVICE=F:\OS2\BOOT\MOUSE.SYS SERIAL=COM1
DEVICE=F:\OS2\BOOT\COM.SYS(4,2e8,5)
DEVICE=F:\OS2\MDOS\VCOM.SYS
SET LANG=en_US
SET TZ=est5edt
CODEPAGE=437,850
DEVINFO=KBD,US,F:\OS2\KEYBOARD.DCP
SET SOMDPORT=4096
SET SOMSOCKETS=TCPIPSockets
SET AVLSVRNAME=AS
SET SOMDTIMEOUT=300
SET HOSTNAME=MYHOSTNAME
SET DMIPATH=F:\DMISL\BIN
rem not needed for nonetwork RUN=F:\OS2\SMSTART.EXE
SET IBMWORKS_INI=F:\BonusPak\ibmworks
DEVICE=F:\BonusPak\rs231b\ecrdrv.sys
DEVICE=F:\BonusPak\rs231b\rsmvdwo.sys
CALL=F:\BonusPak\rs231b\pps731b.exe
DEVICE=G:\SBOS2\SB16D2.SYS /C:1 /D:1 /H:5 /I:7 /A:220 /B:8 /M:330 /N:SBAUD1$
/P
/V
REM Changed for EYE OF BEHOLDER from
rem DEVICE=G:\SBOS2\SB16D2.SYS /C:1 /D:1 /H:5 /I:10 /A:220 /B:8 /M:330
/N:SBAUD1$ /P /V
REM DEVICE=F:\MMOS2\AUDIOVDD.SYS SBAUD1$
SET MMBASE=F:\MMOS2;
SET DSPPATH=F:\MMOS2\DSP;
SET NCDEBUG=4000
RUN=F:\MMOS2\MIDIDMON.EXE
DEVICE=F:\MMOS2\SSMDD.SYS
DEVICE=F:\MMOS2\R0STUB.SYS
DEVICE=F:\MMOS2\MIDI.SYS
DEVICE=F:\MMOS2\VCSHDD.SYS
RUN=F:\MMOS2\QRYMMCD.EXE
CALL=G:\IBMCOM\PROTOCOL\NETBIND.EXE
RUN=G:\IBMCOM\LANMSGEX.EXE
SET NLSPATH=G:\MPTN\MSG\NLS\%N;F:\TCPIP\msg\enus850\%N;
SET ETC=G:\MPTN\ETC
DEVICE=G:\IBMCOM\MACS\NULLNDIS.OS2
SET I18NDIR=F:\IBMI18N
SET TMP=F:\TCPIP\TMP
rem the next line is experimental
Set TEMP=F:\TCPIP\tmp
REM set TEMP=G:\tmp
REM *** WatchCat 2.1 device driver - REQUIRED
DEVICE=G:\cat\WATCHCAT.SYS KEYB:CA-W
REM *** WatchCat 2.1 main program - REQUIRED
RUN=G:\cat\WATCHCAT.EXE
REM *** WatchCat 2.1 Process Manipluation Center Driver
REM DEVICE=G:\cat\KILLER.SYS
REM *** WatchCat 2.1 CAD Package Virtual Device Driver
REM DEVICE=G:\cat\VWCAT.SYS
REM *** WatchCat 2.1 CAD Package Control Program

REM *** Back Again/2 SCSI tape device driver
DEVICE=G:\BA2PRO\BTSSCSI.SYS

REM *** Java OS2 Additions ***
SET
CLASSPATH=g:\NETSCAPE\njclass.zip;.\.;G:\JAVA11\ICATJAVA\DAEMON\JAVAPROB.ZIP;F:
\
TCPIP\java;
SET INCLUDE=G:\JAVA11\INCLUDE;G:\JAVA11\INCLUDE\OS2;
SET LIB=G:\JAVA11\LIB;

REM *** "Native driver for Panasonic CR-585-B" ***
REM remmed for DDFP1 BASEDEV=MKEATAPI.ADD
SET IBMAV=G:\IBMAV
REM *** End of my config.sys ***

SET SOMDTHREADPEER=1
rem to see if still works with previous setting SET TEMP=H:\LOTUSW4\TEMP
rem to see if still works with previous setting SET TMP=H:\LOTUSW4\TEMP
SET APOLLO_ENABLE_DLGED=y
SET APOLLO_ENABLE_WPS=y
SET LOTUS_CLS=H:\LOTUSW4\compnent
SET SOMBASE=F:\OS2
SET SOMRUNTIME=F:\OS2\DLL
SET DSQCOMMTRACE=OFF
SET DSSDIR=H:\LOTUSW4\WORK\APPROACH
SET DSSPATH=H:\LOTUSW4\APPROACH\
SET GRADD_CHAINS=C1
DEVICE=F:\OS2\GRADD.SYS
DEVICE=F:\OS2\MDOS\VMANWIN.SYS
SET C1=S3GRADD
DEVINFO=SCR,VGA,F:\OS2\BOOT\VIOTBL.DCP
SET VIDEO_DEVICES=VIO_SVGA
SET VIO_SVGA=DEVICE(BVHVGA,BVHSVGA)
DEVICE=F:\OS2\MDOS\VSVGA.SYS

REM --- Added by The Graham Utilities for OS/2 Install program
SET GU=g:\GU20LITE
REM --- End GU additions
REM -- PRESS CONTROL AND CLICK ON WINDOW LIST IN WARPCENTRE TO USE
SET KILLFEATUREENABLED=ON
DEVICE=G:\MPTN\PROTOCOL\SOCKETS.SYS
DEVICE=G:\MPTN\PROTOCOL\AFOS2.SYS
DEVICE=G:\MPTN\PROTOCOL\AFINET.SYS
DEVICE=G:\MPTN\BIN\VDOSTCP.VDD
RUN=G:\MPTN\BIN\CNTRL.EXE
CALL=F:\OS2\CMD.EXE /Q /C G:\MPTN\BIN\MPTSTART.CMD >NUL
RUN=G:\MPTN\BIN\VDOSCTL.EXE
SET TCPLANG=en_US
DEVICE=F:\TCPIP\bin\vdostcp.sys

DEVICE=F:\OS2\BOOT\GAMEDD.SYS
DEVICE=F:\OS2\BOOT\GAMEVDD.SYS

REM  ****  Start of Fastback Plus Additions
Device=H:\fastback\Dll\Fastback.sys
rem  remmed for DDFP1 to boot Device=H:\fastback\Dll\Fbscsi.sys
Device=H:\fastback\Dll\Fbscsi.sys
REM  ****  End of Fastback Plus Additions





Richard A Crane
Check Copyright of this with the author or you may suffer litigation or
embarrassment.
 and the C drive boot looks like
IFS=C:\OS2\HPFS.IFS /CACHE:1024 /CRECL:4 /AUTOCHECK:FGH
PROTSHELL=C:\OS2\PMSHELL.EXE
SET USER_INI=C:\OS2\OS2.INI
SET SYSTEM_INI=C:\OS2\OS2SYS.INI
SET OS2_SHELL=C:\OS2\CMD.EXE
SET AUTOSTART=PROGRAMS,TASKLIST,FOLDERS,CONNECTIONS,WARPCENTER
SET RUNWORKPLACE=C:\OS2\PMSHELL.EXE
SET COMSPEC=C:\OS2\CMD.EXE
LIBPATH=.;C:\OS2\DLL;C:\IBMI18N\DLL;C:\MPTN\DLL;C:\IBMCOM\DLL;C:\OS2\MDOS;C:\;C
:
\OS2\APPS\DLL;F:\javaos2\dll;C:\MMOS2\DLL;C:\IBMINST;c:\tcpip\dll;c:\tcpip\pcom
o
s2;C:\TCPIP\UMAIL;C:\Fastback\Dll;
SET
PATH=C:\MPTN\BIN;C:\IBMCOM;C:\OS2;C:\OS2\SYSTEM;C:\OS2\INSTALL;C:\;C:\OS2\MDOS;
C
:\OS2\APPS;F:\javaos2\bin;C:\MMOS2;c:\tcpip\bin;c:\tcpip\pcomos2;C:\TCPIP\UMAIL
;
SET
DPATH=C:\MPTN;C:\IBMCOM;C:\OS2;C:\OS2\SYSTEM;C:\OS2\INSTALL;C:\;C:\OS2\BITMAP;C
:
\OS2\MDOS;C:\OS2\APPS;C:\MMOS2;C:\MMOS2\INSTALL;C:\IBMINST;C:\TCPIP\PCOMOS2;
SET PROMPT=$i[$p]
SET
HELP=C:\MPTN;C:\OS2\HELP;C:\MMOS2\HELP;c:\tcpip\help;C:\TCPIP\UMAIL;C:\Fastback
\
Help;
SET GLOSSARY=C:\OS2\HELP\GLOSS;
SET IPF_KEYS=SBCS
PRIORITY_DISK_IO=YES
FILES=20
BASEDEV=IBMKBD.SYS
DEVICE=C:\IBMCOM\LANMSGDD.OS2 /I:C:\IBMCOM /S
DEVICE=C:\IBMCOM\PROTMAN.OS2 /I:C:\IBMCOM
DEVICE=C:\OS2\BOOT\TESTCFG.SYS
DEVICE=C:\OS2\BOOT\DOS.SYS
DEVICE=C:\OS2\BOOT\PMDD.SYS
BUFFERS=90
IOPL=YES
DISKCACHE=D,LW,AC:C
MAXWAIT=2
MEMMAN=SWAP,PROTECT
SWAPPATH=C:\OS2\SYSTEM 2048 2048
BREAK=OFF
THREADS=1024
PRINTMONBUFSIZE=134,134,134
COUNTRY=061,C:\OS2\SYSTEM\COUNTRY.SYS
SET KEYS=ON
SET BOOKSHELF=C:\OS2\BOOK;C:\MMOS2;c:\tcpip\help;
SET
SOMIR=C:\OS2\ETC\SOM.IR;C:\OS2\ETC\WPSH.IR;C:\OS2\ETC\WPDSERV.IR;C:\OS2\ETC\REX
X
.IR
SET SOMDDIR=C:\OS2\ETC\DSOM
SET ULSPATH=C:\LANGUAGE
SET LOCPATH=C:\IBMI18N\LOCALE;C:\LANGUAGE\LOCALE
BASEDEV=TIMER0.SYS
REM SET
DELDIR=C:\DELETE,512;D:\DELETE,512;E:\DELETE,512;F:\DELETE,512;G:\DELETE,512;H:
\
DELETE,512;
BASEDEV=PRINT01.SYS
BASEDEV=IBM1FLPY.ADD
BASEDEV=IBM2FLPY.ADD
BASEDEV=IBM1S506.ADD /V
BASEDEV=XDFLOPPY.FLT
BASEDEV=OS2DASD.DMD
RUN=C:\OS2\SYSTEM\HYBERSET.EXE
SET EPMPATH=C:\OS2\APPS;
PROTECTONLY=NO
SHELL=C:\OS2\MDOS\COMMAND.COM C:\OS2\MDOS
FCBS=16,8
RMSIZE=640
DEVICE=C:\OS2\MDOS\VEMM.SYS
DOS=LOW,NOUMB
DEVICE=C:\OS2\MDOS\VXMS.SYS /UMB
DEVICE=C:\OS2\MDOS\VDPMI.SYS
DEVICE=C:\OS2\MDOS\VDPX.SYS
BASEDEV=OS2SCSI.DMD
BASEDEV=FLASHPT.ADD
DEVICE=C:\OS2\BOOT\OS2CDROM.DMD /V
IFS=C:\OS2\BOOT\CDFS.IFS /V
DEVICE=C:\OS2\MDOS\VCDROM.SYS
BASEDEV=IBMIDECD.FLT /V
DEVICE=C:\OS2\MDOS\VMOUSE.SYS
DEVICE=C:\OS2\BOOT\POINTDD.SYS
DEVICE=C:\OS2\BOOT\MOUSE.SYS SERIAL=COM1
DEVICE=C:\OS2\BOOT\COM.SYS
DEVICE=C:\OS2\MDOS\VCOM.SYS
SET LANG=EN_AU
SET TZ=est-10edt
CODEPAGE=850,437
DEVINFO=KBD,US,C:\OS2\KEYBOARD.DCP
DEVINFO=SCR,VGA,C:\OS2\BOOT\VIOTBL.DCP
SET VIDEO_DEVICES=VIO_VGA
SET VIO_VGA=DEVICE(BVHVGA)
DEVICE=C:\OS2\MDOS\VSVGA.SYS
SET DMIPATH=C:\DMISL\BIN
RUN=C:\OS2\SMSTART.EXE
SET CLASSPATH=F:\javaos2\lib\jempcl10.zip;.\.
DEVICE=C:\MMOS2\SB16D2.SYS /C:1 /D:1 /H:5 /I:7 /A:220 /M:330 /N:SBAUD1$ /Q /P
DEVICE=C:\MMOS2\AUDIOVDD.SYS SBAUD1$
SET MMBASE=C:\MMOS2;
SET DSPPATH=C:\MMOS2\DSP;
SET NCDEBUG=4000
RUN=C:\MMOS2\MIDIDMON.EXE
DEVICE=C:\MMOS2\SSMDD.SYS
DEVICE=C:\MMOS2\R0STUB.SYS
DEVICE=C:\MMOS2\MIDI.SYS
DEVICE=C:\MMOS2\VCSHDD.SYS
RUN=C:\MMOS2\QRYMMCD.EXE
CALL=C:\IBMCOM\PROTOCOL\NETBIND.EXE
RUN=C:\IBMCOM\LANMSGEX.EXE
SET NLSPATH=C:\MPTN\MSG\NLS\%N;c:\tcpip\msg\enus850\%N;
SET ETC=C:\MPTN\ETC
DEVICE=C:\MPTN\PROTOCOL\SOCKETS.SYS
DEVICE=C:\MPTN\PROTOCOL\AFOS2.SYS
DEVICE=C:\MPTN\PROTOCOL\AFINET.SYS
DEVICE=C:\MPTN\PROTOCOL\IFNDIS.SYS
RUN=C:\MPTN\BIN\CNTRL.EXE
CALL=C:\OS2\CMD.EXE /Q /C C:\MPTN\BIN\MPTSTART.CMD >NUL
DEVICE=C:\IBMCOM\MACS\NULLNDIS.OS2
SET I18NDIR=C:\IBMI18N
SET TMP=c:\tcpip\tmp
DEVICE=c:\tcpip\bin\vdostcp.vdd
DEVICE=c:\tcpip\bin\vdostcp.sys
RUN=c:\tcpip\bin\VDOSCTL.EXE

REM  ****  Start of Fastback Plus Additions
Device=C:\Fastback\Dll\Fastback.sys
rem Device=C:\Fastback\Dll\Fbscsi.sys
REM  ****  End of Fastback Plus Additions

NB i cant boot either c or f with dd1 installed unless I rem this fastback
device - anyone with any clues?/ hints?
ps General Protection Fault ... Retry or Replace General and continue?
Civil libertarians may continue anyway?

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From: [e-mail]                    27-Oct-99 18:28:05
  To: All                                               28-Oct-99 10:23:18
Subj: Re: Tool to dissassemble desktop objects?

From: "Graham C. Norris" <[e-mail]>

If you are not looking for something free to do this, I suggest you look
at tools like Object Desktop, Unimaint or Deskman/2 (probably others
also) which can create portable copies of desktop objects (and more).

Graham.

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From: [e-mail]                    27-Oct-99 18:32:14
  To: All                                               28-Oct-99 10:23:18
Subj: Re: Pimple on my desktop's face

From: "Graham C. Norris" <[e-mail]>

You need to remember that an unqualified drag works differently between
drives and within a drive. You can always force drag to copy by holding
down the Ctrl key while you drag, or force it to move by holding down
Shift while you drag. If you get into the habit of using Ctrl for copy
and Shift for move, you'll never need to remember what is drag is going
to default to. There's also Ctrl-Shift to create shadows of course.

Graham.

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From: [e-mail]                                   28-Oct-99 02:03:10
  To: All                                               28-Oct-99 10:23:18
Subj: Lexmark Optra 40

From: [e-mail] (Ted Miller)

Hello

I have just acquired one of these printers . Installation went smoothly and
the printer  is producing very nice output with very little impact on system
resources - (the main reason I chose this printer and gave up on the Lexmark
3200). However I have no experience with a Postscript based printer and am
hoping that someone here can answer a few questions I have about performance
and operation.

   I have noticed that there is a considerable delay between the the time a
print job is sent to the spooler and the printer actually starts printing.
E.G. I just printed a 3.5 x 5.0 inch jpg file through PMview and the printer
spent about 4 minutes in processing mode before the image was printed. Is this
normal performance for a postscript based printer? Would adding more memory to
the base 4 megs speed up the processing? Is there anything else one can do to
speed up the processing or is this just a characteristic of postscript
printers? I am not overly concerned about this as there is no hit on system
performance during the print process, but I would like to know just for the
sake of knowledge.

    Also does anyone have an idea of how to use this printer in PCL5 emulation
mode. The installation process only installed the postscript driver. Do I have
to install a different driver to use PCL5 mode? I Looked on the insallation CD
and although there were PCL5 drivers the Optra 40 was not listed in them. How
does PCL5 differ from Postscript? Is there an advantage to use one over the
other? Am I even asking the right or pertinent questions in regards to the
above paragraph?

Thanks in advance for any time one spends in responding to my queries.

Ted Miller
[e-mail]




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From: [e-mail]                         28-Oct-99 06:59:00
  To: All                                               28-Oct-99 10:23:19
Subj: Good Mice

From: "Dave {Reply Address in.sig}" <[e-mail]>

On Wed, 27 Oct 1999 23:16:08 -0400, [e-mail] wrote:
>
>Interestingly, this is the only place I have been able to find a mouse I have
>found to be highly servicable.
>
I've got a three-button Mouse Systems mouse here which must be six or
seven years old and is still in good working order. It's got metal
rollers, unlike the usual plastic ones which may be why it's lasted
this long despite daily use.

Dave
--
mail dav [e-mail]
http://www.llondel.demon.co.uk
Give blood... Play Rugby!


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From: MtLavinia_nospam@nym._nospam.ali...               27-Oct-99 23:07:19
  To: All                                               28-Oct-99 10:23:19
Subj: Re: FP12 trap.  Pls help

Message sender: MtLavinia_nospam@nym._nospam.alias.net

From: "Lavinia" <MtLavinia_nospam@nym._nospam.alias.net>

I thought I did remove it, but not the first boot.  It was only after the
failure that I removed it.  Maybe I'll try again.

Thanks, L.

On Tue, 26 Oct 1999 23:39:39 -0400, Duane Chamblee wrote:

>I've seen this... I bet you didn't remove Process Commander before
>installing this fixpak.
>Try removing it and rerun FP12.
>
>You may be able to reinstall PC, but I suggest that you don't.
>
>Lavinia wrote:
>>
>> I've installed FP12 over FP8.  It all went well, and on reboot
>> the locked drivers were applied.
>>
>> When the boot continues, I get numerous traps, all sys3175.  The first one
is
>> for smstart.exe.  There are numerous other traps, among them -
>> \mptn\bin\cntrl.exe, \mptn\bin\inetwait, ibmcom\protocol\nbtcp.exe,
>> \mptn\bin\vdosctl.exe, and finally it grinds to a halt with pmmerge.dll.
>>
>> The trap is the same for all, 0C0000005H  which is XCPT_ACCESS_VIOLATION
and
>> the P1 code is 00000001H  which is XCPT_READ_ACCESS.
>>
>> Can anyone tell me why these errors are occuring?  I commented out smstart
>> but the other traps still happen.  What can I do to get FP12 to boot?
>>
>> I backed out to FP8 but would like to get 12 installed.



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From: MtLavinia_nospam@nym._nospam.ali...               27-Oct-99 23:11:19
  To: All                                               28-Oct-99 10:23:19
Subj: Re: FP12 trap. Pls help

Message sender: MtLavinia_nospam@nym._nospam.alias.net

From: "Lavinia" <MtLavinia_nospam@nym._nospam.alias.net>

There are several statements in the config.sys.  There are 2 statements near
the top, and a whole slew of stuff further down.  In addition,
\os2\boot\kbdbase.sys needs to be restored to the orginal file.  I can't
recall if PC made a copy or not, I always kept a copy.  Also, in my directory
I have a file called uninstpc.exe, which I presume will do the job you want.

Good luck, L.

On 27 Oct 1999 14:10:29 GMT, [e-mail] wrote:

>I seem to have done the same thing.
>
>Only problem is that after backing out to FP 10, I am left with the same
>problem. I tried rem'ing out the config sys lines for Process commander,
>but it still didn't work. Are there lines of PC that are not obvious that
>I might have missed ? I can get to a command prompt to do some limited
>adjustments. Any help is greatly appreciated. I am not looking forward to
>a re-install.
>
>Alex
>



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From: [e-mail]                    28-Oct-99 06:35:16
  To: All                                               28-Oct-99 10:23:19
Subj: Re: How to Transfer File with serial port?

From: [e-mail] (Jeffrey Altman)

In article <176uZD2KcidF-pn2-GvY9K4ZCJnQz@rikki>,
Bob Eager <[e-mail]> wrote:
: On Tue, 19 Oct 1999 17:39:32, [e-mail] (Jeffrey
: Altman) wrote:
:
: > For the lastest information about Kermit on OS/2 please see
: >
: >   http://www.kermit-project.org/os2.html
: >
: > not hobbes.
:
: Yes, but don't the newer (non-Hobbes) versions cost money?

If you would read the link you would discover that while we describe
the differences between Kermit 95 for OS/2 and OS/2 C-Kermit and
request that you order K95 from us, we also make available OS/2 C-Kermit
for free download.

Now granted, OS/2 C-Kermit is older and as far as we are concerned
is out of date.  But it is completely functional within its limitations.

    Jeffrey Altman * Sr.Software Designer * Kermit-95 for Win32 and OS/2
                 The Kermit Project * Columbia University
              612 West 115th St #716 * New York, NY * 10025
  http://www.kermit-project.org/k95.html * [e-mail]

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From: [e-mail]                       28-Oct-99 09:04:19
  To: All                                               28-Oct-99 10:23:19
Subj: Re: Tool to dissassemble desktop objects?

From: Henk kelder <[e-mail]>

Checkout wptoolxx.zip from:

http://www.os2ss.com/information/kelder/index.html

In the archive you'll find WPTOOLS.DLL which allows you to query object
setupstrings.

Henk

[e-mail] wrote:
>
> I am a relative newcomer to OS/2 (software engineer). I am creating
> an installation CD for other developers which will copy various
> tools onto their already-configured OS/2 system (e.g. compilers,
> editors, etc) so that they can easily create a consistent
> development environment.
>
> To do this I installed all these packages, then tarred up the
> files. I can restore them without problems. However I would
> like to also recreate the folders, icons, etc. created by the
> original installation programs.
>
> I know how to create WP objects in REXX. But I don't have a good
> way to know exactly what objects and attributes to create. I
> have spent the last couple of days mucking with INI file editors,
> trying to do DIFFs between the before and after HEX dumps but
> this seems to be too error prone to work.
>
> Can anyone suggest a strategy to accomplish this task?
>
> Many thanks!
> Sally Goldin
> Consultant
> [e-mail]
>
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From: [e-mail]                          28-Oct-99 16:04:23
  To: All                                               28-Oct-99 10:23:19
Subj: Re: Help with helps

From: "Wayne Bickell" <[e-mail]>

On Wed, 27 Oct 1999 21:53:19 +0200, peter volsted wrote:

:>hi
:>
:>> [e-mail] wrote:
:>
:>> Where on my system can I find help for working with DSK files?  I have
tried at
:>> the command line "help dsk" and "help loaddskf" (among other things).
:>
:>>From command prompt try <path>\loaddskf -?
:>
:>good luck
:>
:>peter
:>
:>

Go to Hobbes and do a search for DS4PM it makes working with
these disk images painless.

Cheers

Wayne


******************************************************
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Tokyo, Japan
[e-mail]
******************************************************
           Posted with PMINews 2 for OS/2
  Running on OS/2 Warp 4 (UK)  + FixPak 9
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From: [e-mail]                                  28-Oct-99 06:56:11
  To: All                                               28-Oct-99 10:23:19
Subj: Re: Bootos2 options

From: [e-mail]

In article <38173ac9$2$yvsrqngn$[e-mail]>,
  [e-mail] wrote:
> [e-mail] (Raphael Tennenbaum) said:
>
> >It's really hard for me to imagine you've been using OS/2 as
> >long as you have and can't fathom that the options listed
>
> As I said, I have stayed as far away from command line ANYTHING as
possible.
> This is the first time, anywhere, I have seen command line switches
referred to
> as SYNTAX.  Maybe that is common as fleas on a dog where you hang out,
but it is
> the only place I've seen it.  From what little I know about command
line stuff

Sorry if I am laughing a bit about the discussion that you two are
having here, but it's not about you but about myself that I am laughing:
What you are saying here just reminds me at what I experienced when I
learned to program "Pascal" some 15 years ago (or even more?) after
having started with "BASIC" some years earlier. There was no german book
around, but an english one - and I was thinking I understand that easily
:-) After some reading I had to admit that there was one key word I did
not understand at all: They were constantly talking about "files" - what
the hell is that?? I only understood that I would not understand a lot
if I did NOT find out the meaning of this word...

I took an old english dictionary and there it was explained that this
has something to do with soldiers marching in a row etc.... I really had
a hard time to find out what the word means just guessing and taking the
context into account - and there was still no internet where I could
have asked questions :-))

My point is: Some "very easy" things definitely ARE not easy for
everybody...

Greetings,
Cornelis

PS: This posting is no implicit criticism about ANY of you two
participants of the discussion - just in case this this isn't evident
:-))

> that long list of stuff would not fit on any command line anywhere -
not even
> half of it.  Therefore I thought it must be something unusual I'd
never heard
> of.  You see, not everybody eats, sleeps and breathes computer lingo.
I don't
> use OS/2 because, as somebody said, I like the fact that it is
difficult.  I use
> it do do things.  I had bootos2 in my computer archives well over a
year trying
> to make sense of its "instructions."
>
> I dare say there are some disciplines in which I could think circles
around some
> computer geniuses.  But I would not ridicule them just because their
expertise
> is in a different field than mine.
>
> And...  It's really hard for me to imagine it would require a
specially trained
> technical writer to simply say this "syntax" is the same thing as
command line
> switches.
>
> This is the thing I hate about OS/2 the most.  The idea that you have
to think
> like a computer hacker to use it, and the idea that you're some kind
of freak if
> you don't.
>
> Jim L
> Remove XX from address to Email
> Crooks and kooks will get guns regardless of laws.
>
>


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From: [e-mail]                                    28-Oct-99 07:49:04
  To: All                                               28-Oct-99 10:23:19
Subj: Re: How to Transfer File with serial port?

From: [e-mail] (Bob Eager)

On Thu, 28 Oct 1999 06:35:33, [e-mail] (Jeffrey
Altman) wrote:

> : Yes, but don't the newer (non-Hobbes) versions cost money?
>
> If you would read the link you would discover that while we describe
> the differences between Kermit 95 for OS/2 and OS/2 C-Kermit and
> request that you order K95 from us, we also make available OS/2 C-Kermit
> for free download.

I think that's what I said.

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PC Server 325; PS/2s 8595*3, 9595*3 (2*P60 + P90), 8535, 8570, 9556*2,
8580*6,
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From: [e-mail]                                    27-Oct-99 07:38:23
  To: All                                               28-Oct-99 11:18:04
Subj: Re: Networking 2 home computers...

From: [e-mail] (James Knott)

Actually, 10Base2 (coaxial) cards are getting scarce.

In article <[e-mail]>,
Gary Dale <[e-mail]> wrote:
>If you are running at 10M bps then you can probably use coaxial ethernet
>cable. Almost all 10M cards have both coax and twisted pair connectors. If
>you are wiring up a home or office, then go with Cat 5 twisted pair.
>Otherwise, a simple coax network avoids the need for a hub. However, it is
>worth noting that 10M hubs are dirt cheap these days, and even 100M hubs
>can be reasonable.
>
>devlin wrote:
>
>> Hub not needed for networking two computers if you use a 4 wire
>> ethernet cable.
>>
>> I am running my two computer network with one NIC card in each and one
>> 4 wire eithernet cable and it works fantastic!
>>
>> Hub only needed if you are going to be connecting more than two.
>>
>> On Tue, 24 Aug 1999 00:06:10 -0700, Dane <localhost@127.0.0.1> wrote:
>>
>> >Philip Wright wrote:
>> >>
>> >> A 3COM OfficeConnect 4 port hub is dirt cheap (~$40).
>> >> Rather than fool with crossover cables I would recommend
>> >> a hub for simplicity and expandability.
>> >>
>> >> Philip Wright
>> >
>> >I'll take a $7 Cat 5 crossover cable anyday of the week
>> >over a $40 hub. Add to it a pair of Pro 100 Ethernet
>> >cards and you have a very fast network.
>> >
>> >--
>> >Anti-Spamming measures. To reply to me, remove nospam.
>> >and ROT-13 my email address: [e-mail]
>

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From: [e-mail]               28-Oct-99 09:02:01
  To: All                                               28-Oct-99 11:18:04
Subj: Re: New OS/2 device driver development

From: [e-mail] (TB)

In article <7v8g58$i94$0@216.155.33.103>,
[e-mail] (Jim Nuytens) wrote:
>
>Definately USB scanners. That's about the only thing I boot W95 for
>these days.
>
>
>
>"The bureaucratic mentality is the only constant in the universe."
>Dr. McCoy to Kirk / Star Trek IV:The Voyage Home

W95 (up to 4.00.1**** anyway) is just as USB-impaired as OS2. You mean W98.
Th.

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From: [e-mail]                             28-Oct-99 09:16:26
  To: All                                               28-Oct-99 11:18:04
Subj: Can't read multisession CD's

From: Thomas Kellerer <[e-mail]>

Hello,

I have a multisession CD which I burned using NT at my office. I have
one old Toshiba CD ROM and a TEAC CD-R55S at home. While the old
(doublespeed) Toshiba has *no* problems reading the files from the
second session, the TEAC does not display any of the files which were
written in the second session.

Any ideas why the TEAD behaves in such a way (as they are both using the
same driver)???

Thanks in advance
Thomas


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From: [e-mail]                           28-Oct-99 14:45:10
  To: All                                               28-Oct-99 11:18:04
Subj: Re: Can't read multisession CD's

From: "Ivan Adzhubei" <[e-mail]>

In <7v94a4$g6q$[e-mail]>, on 10/28/99
   at 09:16 AM, Thomas Kellerer <[e-mail]> said:

Thomas,

You are not alone (although it does not help you much :). This is a very
hardware-specific issue. I had an ancient LaserOptics 2-speed CD dirive
here that usually reads 90% of my multisession CD's flawlessly, then I
had another old (but much younger :) Creative CD-ROM that won't even
recognize _any_ multisession CD put in it. I also have a 12x Panasonic
drive which reads everything I put in it on the first try, and I just
got a newer 32x Panasonic model which can hardly read 50% of
multisession CD's (it also does not support "long read" option, while
the older Panas model does). Looks kinda black magic to me...

BTW, from my experience this is basically non-OS-specific problem.

Cheers,
Ivan

>I have a multisession CD which I burned using NT at my office. I have
>one old Toshiba CD ROM and a TEAC CD-R55S at home. While the old
>(doublespeed) Toshiba has *no* problems reading the files from the
>second session, the TEAC does not display any of the files which were
>written in the second session.

>Any ideas why the TEAD behaves in such a way (as they are both using
>the same driver)???

>Thanks in advance
>Thomas


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From: [e-mail]                                     28-Oct-99 07:34:02
  To: All                                               28-Oct-99 11:18:04
Subj: Re: My big mouth.

From: Michael W. Cocke <[e-mail]>

On Wed, 27 Oct 1999 23:16:08 -0400, [e-mail] wrote:

>Apparently my big mouth has had a good effect in at least one case.
>
>I just got a note from http://computergeek.com that they have fixed their
sales
>system so non-M$ Explorer browsers can use it.  I went there and, surely
enough,
>I was able to put merchandise into my shopping cart.
>
>Unfortunately there is still a hang up in the checkout, but I have informed
them
>of that and expect it will be fixed.
>
>Interestingly, this is the only place I have been able to find a mouse I have
>found to be highly servicable.
>
>Jim L
>Remove XX from address to Email
>Crooks and kooks will get guns regardless of laws.
>
>

I decided to take a look, and all I got at that url was a screen saying
to check back in august.  (August!?)

Mike-


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From: [e-mail]                                28-Oct-99 06:52:10
  To: All                                               28-Oct-99 11:18:04
Subj: Re: WSeB Client sorta news

From: [e-mail] (Jerry McBride)

In article <[e-mail]>,
Scott <[e-mail]> wrote:
>I was over on Stardocks newsgroup and saw this, it was interesting (if
>not a little confusing as to what it means)...  enjoy...
>
>
>> Just got this from WarpCast:
>>
>> Source: Oliver Mark, IBM Germany ([e-mail])
>> Moderator: Trevor Smith ([e-mail])
>> -------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> During a trip to IBM in Austin, I had a chance to speak to Steven
>> King (well known to all OS/2-guys) and fresh from the source, here's
>> his announcement:
>>
>> There IS a service offering from IBM for installation and support of
>> an official Aurora Client to be officially announced within the next
>> couple of days.
>>

--- snip ---

It simply means that a new OS/2 client will be offered sometime in the next
couple of months. It' won't be on a CD that you can orderup and have mailed to
your address. It'll be provided as part of a service, where an IBM employee
comes to your place of business and installs the thing...

You "are" a business customer, aren't you??? :')

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From: [e-mail]                                28-Oct-99 06:56:03
  To: All                                               28-Oct-99 11:18:04
Subj: Re: Networking 2 home computers...

From: [e-mail] (Jerry McBride)

In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (James Knott) wrote:
>
>Actually, 10Base2 (coaxial) cards are getting scarce.
>
>In article <[e-mail]>,
>Gary Dale <[e-mail]> wrote:
>>If you are running at 10M bps then you can probably use coaxial ethernet
>>cable. Almost all 10M cards have both coax and twisted pair connectors. If
>>you are wiring up a home or office, then go with Cat 5 twisted pair.
>>Otherwise, a simple coax network avoids the need for a hub. However, it is
>>worth noting that 10M hubs are dirt cheap these days, and even 100M hubs
>>can be reasonable.
>>
>>devlin wrote:
>>
>>> Hub not needed for networking two computers if you use a 4 wire
>>> ethernet cable.
>>>
>>> I am running my two computer network with one NIC card in each and one
>>> 4 wire eithernet cable and it works fantastic!
>>>
>>> Hub only needed if you are going to be connecting more than two.
>>>
>>> On Tue, 24 Aug 1999 00:06:10 -0700, Dane <localhost@127.0.0.1> wrote:
>>>
>>> >Philip Wright wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> A 3COM OfficeConnect 4 port hub is dirt cheap (~$40).
>>> >> Rather than fool with crossover cables I would recommend
>>> >> a hub for simplicity and expandability.
>>> >>
>>> >> Philip Wright
>>> >
>>> >I'll take a $7 Cat 5 crossover cable anyday of the week
>>> >over a $40 hub. Add to it a pair of Pro 100 Ethernet
>>> >cards and you have a very fast network.
>>> >
>>> >--
>>> >Anti-Spamming measures. To reply to me, remove nospam.
>>> >and ROT-13 my email address: [e-mail]
>>

Anyone here done a 2 computer network with fibre? I'm saving up the computer
budget money to do just that and I'm interested in anything you have to
comment
on this subject.

Thanks.


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*
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*
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From: [e-mail]                      28-Oct-99 02:15:01
  To: All                                               28-Oct-99 11:18:05
Subj: Re: Wesb Boot

From: [e-mail]

In article <[e-mail]>,
  "Valheru" <[e-mail]> wrote:

> Can any post an image file for warp server for e-business so I can
> recover some files? Thanks

No. First off, this isn't a binary group. Second, if you don't have the
CD, you don't own a legal copy.

If you *do* have a CD, you can make your own disks.

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From: [e-mail]                         28-Oct-99 02:20:26
  To: All                                               28-Oct-99 11:18:05
Subj: Re: MS .asf files on Linux?

From: [e-mail] (Stewart Honsberger)

On Wed, 27 Oct 1999 21:47:22 +0000, Erik de Castro Lopo wrote:
>Until Micros~1 releases a Linux ASF player (about 1 second before hell
>freezes over) or someone reverse engineers ASF you're not going to be
>able to play that file on Linux.

That's sortof obvious. :/

I've been looking for the same thing - although I'll also accept an OS/2
program to do same (hence the additional newsgroup).

--
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From: [e-mail]                                   27-Oct-99 22:36:16
  To: All                                               28-Oct-99 11:18:05
Subj: Re: Lexmark Optra 40

From: [e-mail] (Harry Travis)

In <[e-mail]>, on 10/28/99
   at 02:03 AM, [e-mail] (Ted Miller) said:

>Hello

>I have just acquired one of these printers . Installation went smoothly
>and the printer  is producing very nice output with very little impact
>on system resources - (the main reason I chose this printer and gave up
>on the Lexmark 3200). However I have no experience with a Postscript
>based printer and am hoping that someone here can answer a few
>questions I have about performance and operation.

>   I have noticed that there is a considerable delay between the the
>time a print job is sent to the spooler and the printer actually starts
>printing. E.G. I just printed a 3.5 x 5.0 inch jpg file through PMview
>and the printer spent about 4 minutes in processing mode before the
>image was printed. Is this normal performance for a postscript based
>printer? Would adding more memory to the base 4 megs speed up the
>processing? Is there anything else one can do to speed up the
>processing or is this just a characteristic of postscript printers? I
>am not overly concerned about this as there is no hit on system
>performance during the print process, but I would like to know just for
>the sake of knowledge.

>    Also does anyone have an idea of how to use this printer in PCL5
>emulation mode. The installation process only installed the postscript
>driver. Do I have to install a different driver to use PCL5 mode? I
>Looked on the insallation CD and although there were PCL5 drivers the
>Optra 40 was not listed in them. How does PCL5 differ from Postscript?
>Is there an advantage to use one over the other? Am I even asking the
>right or pertinent questions in regards to the above paragraph?

>Thanks in advance for any time one spends in responding to my queries.

>Ted Miller
>[e-mail]
>
An inveterate OS/2 user reports that this printer will put many more
smiles on your face if you shove some inexpensive 72 pin simms in it. If
Postscript were meant to run within 4 meg, Lexmark wouldn't have led you
to think 68 meg of memory is something anyone might want to shove in it.
The big sister model 45 comes with 16 meg standard.

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From: [e-mail]                             27-Oct-99 22:05:06
  To: All                                               28-Oct-99 11:18:05
Subj: WSeB Client sorta news

From: Scott <[e-mail]>

I was over on Stardocks newsgroup and saw this, it was interesting (if
not a little confusing as to what it means)...  enjoy...


> Just got this from WarpCast:
>
> Source: Oliver Mark, IBM Germany ([e-mail])
> Moderator: Trevor Smith ([e-mail])
> -------------------------------------------------------
>
> During a trip to IBM in Austin, I had a chance to speak to Steven
> King (well known to all OS/2-guys) and fresh from the source, here's
> his announcement:
>
> There IS a service offering from IBM for installation and support of
> an official Aurora Client to be officially announced within the next
> couple of days.
>
> This includes fee-based onsite installation based on a modified
> version of the Server to install Warp 4.5 Client including MPTS,
> TCPIP, LAN Requester, Syst. Mgmt. comp., Netscape, Java and so on; as
> well as a supportline contract for reporting problems to IBM. Once
> again, this is a fee-based service-offering, it's NOT a shrinkwrap CD
> for endusers. If you are a IBM-Business-customer, contact either
> Steven King (for North and South Amerika) or me (for Europe) for more
> information.
>
>
>                 Chris Stumpf
>                 C.S.E. Computer Services
>                 Computer Consultant (OS/2, Lan, Wan, CTI)
>                 Serenity Systems Channel Partner
>                 IBM Certified Systems Expert - OS/2 Warp 4
>
>
> web:    http://cse.anterras.net
> email:  [e-mail]
> phone: [phone]
>
>
>

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From: [e-mail]                                27-Oct-99 23:16:04
  To: All                                               28-Oct-99 11:18:05
Subj: My big mouth.

From: [e-mail]

Apparently my big mouth has had a good effect in at least one case.

I just got a note from http://computergeek.com that they have fixed their
sales
system so non-M$ Explorer browsers can use it.  I went there and, surely
enough,
I was able to put merchandise into my shopping cart.

Unfortunately there is still a hang up in the checkout, but I have informed
them
of that and expect it will be fixed.

Interestingly, this is the only place I have been able to find a mouse I have
found to be highly servicable.

Jim L
Remove XX from address to Email
Crooks and kooks will get guns regardless of laws.


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From: [e-mail]....               28-Oct-99 03:32:28
  To: All                                               28-Oct-99 11:18:05
Subj: Re: New OS/2 device driver development

Message sender: [e-mail]

From: [e-mail] (Jim Nuytens)

On Wed, 27 Oct 1999 13:19:42, "David T. Johnson"
<[e-mail]> wrote:

> The single biggest driver issue right now for OS/2 is getting
> motherboard BIOSs that will allow OS/2 to find more than 64 MB of DRAM.
> Many of the BIOS versions have an OS/2 memory > 64MB option but it often
> does not work properly.  And yes, this isn't really a 'driver' issue but
> it is important.

Not to be flippant or offend you in any way, but where the &$^#$% are
you buying your hardware from that you have this problem? I've got 128
MB of RAM recognized in Warp 3 and Warp4 on a FIC-503+ motherboard. My
previous 2 motherboards also did not have this problem. You must be
shopping the wrong hardware.

> So perhaps the most helpful drivers would be AGP 2x and 4x drivers and
> USB scanner drivers.

Definately USB scanners. That's about the only thing I boot W95 for
these days.



"The bureaucratic mentality is the only constant in the universe."
Dr. McCoy to Kirk / Star Trek IV:The Voyage Home

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From: [e-mail]                     28-Oct-99 03:35:22
  To: All                                               28-Oct-99 11:18:05
Subj: MSWinNT 4 share causes TRAP 000d?

From: [e-mail] (Frank McKenney)

Is there any reason why sharing a drive (okay, partition) on a MSWinNT 4
box should cause my OS/2 system (Warp 4, XR_M012) to trap?

For the past four weeks I've had an HP Pentium-III as a third box on my
internal network.  Until recently my use of the network connection had
been sporadic, since my initial development effort has been done under
OS/2.  Now that I'm installing code on the NT box and testing it, I've
made its E:  partition (2 Gb) accessible and am NET USEing it from OS/2.

Unfortunately, after almost eight _months_ without a trap, OS/2 has died
horribly four times in the past two weeks.  In all cases I was
performing operations on files (opening, creating, deleting, etc.)  on
the NT shared partition at either a DOS or an OS/2 command prompt.

Any suggestions on what might be causing this to happen (and how I might
avoid it in the future) would be appreciated.  If it makes any
difference (one would't think it would) the other box on the LAN is a
486DX4-100 system running S.u.S.E Linux v5.3.

Here are the critical elements extracted from the first standalone dump
diskette (DUMPDATA.001).  This approach beats the H*ll out of copying
that silly stuff from the screen, and it provides more information:  the
"Exception in IFNET$" line never made it to the screen.

--
##0168:fff4832e - 000e:c32e    , 05860526
9084  9084

Exception in device driver: IFNET$

TRAP 000d       ERRCD=0000  ERACC=****  ERLIM=********
EAX=ffe18588  EBX=fff06a4c  ECX=00000003  EDX=000025c0
ESI=fff08d74  EDI=fdf64f84  EBP=00001fc2  FLG=00012012
CS:EIP=25f0:00005963  CSACC=009b  CSLIM=0000821b
SS:ESP=00e8:00001fae  SSACC=0093  SSLIM=00001fff
DS=25e8  DSACC=0093  DSLIM=00003381  CR0=8001001b
ES=25e8  ESACC=0093  ESLIM=00003381  CR2=00029000
FS=2360  FSACC=1093  FSLIM=0000ffff
GS=0000  GSACC=****  GSLIM=********
--
Internal revision 9.036, 99/07/20
--



Frank McKenney, McKenney Associates
Richmond, Virginia / [phone]
E-mail: [e-mail]

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From: [e-mail]                                27-Oct-99 23:32:20
  To: All                                               28-Oct-99 11:18:05
Subj: Re: Bootos2 options

From: [e-mail]

[e-mail] (Raphael Tennenbaum) said:

>Elitism?  I hope not.  Realism, I hope.  I didn't mean to
>single you out, Jim.  But let's look at the situation
>another way: Ken Kahn, an IBM employee, takes a good bit of
>time to write a utility, and offers it for free via IBM.  I
>don't believe he got paid extra for it, though I may be

Okay, I am not unknown to have programed in a couple languages for other
people
- for free - some years back.  On such occasions I did my level best to make
documentation clear and complete.  I am convinced that documentation is part
and
parcel of the software.  I have not and will not use remuneration or the lack
of
it as an excuse to scrimp on documentation.  If I feel bad about not getting
paid I don't write the program.

I really fail to understand why anyone would feel obligated to agrue in favor
of
poor documentation under any circumstances.

Jim L
Remove XX from address to Email
Crooks and kooks will get guns regardless of laws.


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From: [e-mail]                                27-Oct-99 23:39:08
  To: All                                               28-Oct-99 11:18:05
Subj: Re: Floppies/Utilities again

From: [e-mail]

nospam@null (Richard A Crane) said:

>> If you'll read what I wrote (quoted above) you'll see that I DID REMOVE the
>> necessary files

>And therein is the problem?
>Richard A Crane
>Check Copyright of this with the author or you may suffer litigation or
>embarrassment.

Are we supposed to be on the same subject?

Jim L
Remove XX from address to Email
Crooks and kooks will get guns regardless of laws.


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From: [e-mail]                                27-Oct-99 23:40:13
  To: All                                               28-Oct-99 11:18:05
Subj: Re: Help with helps

From: [e-mail]

peter volsted <[e-mail]> said:

>>From command prompt try <path>\loaddskf -?

Thanks to you and others.

Jim L
Remove XX from address to Email
Crooks and kooks will get guns regardless of laws.


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From: [e-mail]                                27-Oct-99 23:41:13
  To: All                                               28-Oct-99 11:18:05
Subj: Re: Pimple on my desktop's face

From: [e-mail]

"Paul M. Pilon" <[e-mail]> said:

>    Try Bruce Henry's File Freedom Program.  It's great for these kinds of
>situations.  I believe you can get it from:
>         http://www.kw.igs.net/~brhenry

Thanks.  In spite of the rise of object oriented computing I use a registered
copy of File Freedom (now freeware) to do just about everything.  It would not
delete the file until I found its "parent" on the hard drive and deleted that.

Jim L
Remove XX from address to Email
Crooks and kooks will get guns regardless of laws.


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From: [e-mail]                                 28-Oct-99 03:56:00
  To: All                                               28-Oct-99 11:18:05
Subj: Re: My big mouth.

From: [e-mail]

In <3817c135$1$yvsrqngn$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] writes:

>Apparently my big mouth has had a good effect in at least one case.
>
>I just got a note from http://computergeek.com that they have fixed their
sales
>system so non-M$ Explorer browsers can use it.  I went there and, surely
enough,
>I was able to put merchandise into my shopping cart.

at one time their site didn't work with WebEx either . . they changed that
too.
Computer Geeks must be one of those silly places which want to make sales
over the internet, not prove how whiz-bang uptodate kool they are. Ever
wonder what webmasters use for brains ? They want your money, but many
restrict their target population right off the bat. When I see that "you need
to download a better browser" I immediately think, " No I don't, bye, and
thanks for saving me a few bucks."

>
>Unfortunately there is still a hang up in the checkout, but I have informed
them
>of that and expect it will be fixed.
>
>Interestingly, this is the only place I have been able to find a mouse I have
>found to be highly servicable.
>
>Jim L

--
härad ængravvåd

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From: [e-mail]                               28-Oct-99 04:35:10
  To: All                                               28-Oct-99 11:18:05
Subj: Re: Is my blood boiling...

From: [e-mail] (Esther Schindler)

On Wed, 27 Oct 1999 17:51:33, [e-mail] wrote:

| (Esther Schindler) said:
| >Well, either that says something about the quality and responsiveness
| >of your ISP, or
|
| I think it simply says they are sheep in the M$ fold.

I doubt it.

Plenty of people take the easy path, the default options, the
no-brainer choice. If they accept your OS/2 options file, they'll have
to take responsibility for something they don't understand -- and are
unprepared to understand. Do *you* want to promise something to your
customers that you aren't sure you can deliver? Probably not.

It *could* also mean that you presented yourself poorly, when you made
the offer. I'm not saying that this is the case, of course, I've seen
plenty of messages that say, "I'm sure you're too stupid to take my
advice," and the note-author apparently believes that this is a
genuine offer of help.

--Esther

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From: [e-mail]                             28-Oct-99 14:36:09
  To: All                                               28-Oct-99 11:18:05
Subj: Using a networked HP LJ3100 ?

From: Michael Taylor <[e-mail]>

We have a HP LJ3100 installed on a NT Server V4 file and print
server.

Is there any way I can print to it from OS/2 V4?

I know it is a WinPrinter and we have the HP JetSuite installed
on the NT box. The NT4 WS boxes can print to it but only from Win
Apps (ie "print' from the DOS command line doesn't work!).

--
Regards,
Mick

Michael Taylor
Senior Technical Specialist
Search Software America
PO Box 22, Braddon
Canberra, ACT 2612, Australia

[e-mail]
http://www.searchsoftware.com

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From: [e-mail]                                 27-Oct-99 23:30:15
  To: All                                               28-Oct-99 11:18:05
Subj: Re: Bootos2 options

From: [e-mail] (Richard Steiner)

Here in comp.os.os2.misc, [e-mail] spake unto us, saying:

>[e-mail] (Raphael Tennenbaum) said:
>
>>It's really hard for me to imagine you've been using OS/2 as
>>long as you have and can't fathom that the options listed
>
>As I said, I have stayed as far away from command line ANYTHING as
>possible.  This is the first time, anywhere, I have seen command line
>switches referred to as SYNTAX.

Maybe it could be more clearly written, but it does seem to follow a
fairly standard (and relatively clear, at least to me) format.

What else would syntax mean in the context of a utility, anyway?

I've been a command-line junkie for years, so I guess I really don't
have your perspective.  It's always interesting to see how different
people can view the same thing so differently.

On the positive side -- you've learned something.  :-)

--
   -Rich Steiner  >>>--->  [e-mail]  >>>---> Bloomington, MN
     OS/2 + BeOS + Linux + Solaris + Win95 + WinNT4 + FreeBSD + DOS
      + VMWare + Fusion + vMac + Executor = PC Hobbyist Heaven! :-)
        Never believe anything until it's been officially denied.

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From: [e-mail]                           28-Oct-99 01:19:15
  To: All                                               28-Oct-99 11:18:05
Subj: Re: New OS/2 device driver development

From: Bob Germer <[e-mail]>

On <[e-mail]>, on 10/27/99 at 09:19 AM,
   "David T. Johnson" <[e-mail]> said:

> Well, the driver situation isn't great but, IMO, it isn't terrible
> either.  The single biggest driver issue right now for OS/2 is getting
> motherboard BIOSs that will allow OS/2 to find more than 64 MB of DRAM.
> Many of the BIOS versions have an OS/2 memory > 64MB option but it often
> does not work properly.  And yes, this isn't really a 'driver' issue but
> it is important.

Well, I don't know why you have such problems. I have >64 Megs on at least
2 dozen different motherboards either in my own shop or on clients'
machines. We have no-name boards, Intel, Tyan, ASUS, Premio, and other
motherboards in the mix, all of which recognize more than 64 Megs.


--
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
---------------
Bob Germer from Mount Holly, NJ - E-mail: [e-mail]
Proudly running OS/2 Warp 4.0 w/ FixPack 12
MR/2 Ice Registration Number 67
Aut Pax Aut Bellum
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
---------------

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From: [e-mail]                              28-Oct-99 05:39:08
  To: All                                               28-Oct-99 11:18:05
Subj: Re: FP12 trap.  Pls help

From: Jordan Fox <[e-mail]>

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I first tried to reply to the reply by "Nemo", but it bounced.  Trying again.

*       *        *          *          *          *          *
*            *           *          *         *          *

Duane Chamblee wrote:

> I've seen this... I bet you didn't remove Process Commander before
> installing this fixpak.
> Try removing it and rerun FP12.
>
> You may be able to reinstall PC, but I suggest that you don't.
>
> Lavinia wrote:
> >
> > I've installed FP12 over FP8.  It all went well, and on reboot
> > the locked drivers were applied.
> >
> > When the boot continues, I get numerous traps, all sys3175.  The first one
is
> > for smstart.exe.  There are numerous other traps, among them -
> > \mptn\bin\cntrl.exe, \mptn\bin\inetwait, ibmcom\protocol\nbtcp.exe,
> > \mptn\bin\vdosctl.exe, and finally it grinds to a halt with pmmerge.dll.
> >
> > The trap is the same for all, 0C0000005H  which is XCPT_ACCESS_VIOLATION
and
> > the P1 code is 00000001H  which is XCPT_READ_ACCESS.
> >
> > Can anyone tell me why these errors are occuring?  I commented out smstart
> > but the other traps still happen.  What can I do to get FP12 to boot?
> >
> > I backed out to FP8 but would like to get 12 installed.

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Hi --

For some reason, Quoting is greyed out in this NS 2.02 News
Reply window (usually not the case), so I'll have to para-
phrase.

You said that PROCESS COMMANDER substitues some system files,
which is correct; that it must be "removed" prior to instal-
ling a fixpack, also correct; that adjusting Config.Sys is
not sufficient, which is probably not correct.

I have been using PC for a couple years.  It has gotten me out
of some sizable scrapes, and failed miserably at getting me
out of some others (most likely involving a jam-up of the SIQ).

When I'm about to do any major install, or apply a FP, I first
reboot using a different Config.Sys which does not reference
PC files / directories, and instead points to the default OS/2
DOSCALL1.DLL (may not have that name exactly right, but it is
a key file that PC replaces with it's own version).  This has
proved satisfactory thus far.  OTOH, it's been a while since
I applied a FP . . . .

The last CSD for PC was in early '97.  Stardock has since fixed
some of these issues (screwing up some UniMaint functions, for
instance) in OBJECT DESKTOP, but has shown no inclination to
do the same for PC.

A couple months ago, someone mentioned _here_ that he was de-
veloping a new Process Killer that would eclipse what PC can
do.  I thought I had saved the message, but can't find it now.
The prospective name for this utility sounded more like a
"DOOM" type of game, IIRC.  Anyone know what this was, or how
to contact the author ?

<jf>

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From: [e-mail]                         28-Oct-99 12:19:26
  To: All                                               28-Oct-99 14:45:06
Subj: Re: GAH! Got a Trap error on our print server! Help!

From: Siobhan Perricone <[e-mail]>

In article <dXgYJNBkfqLN-pn2-GlHbeig9VEzs@localhost>,
  nospam@null wrote:

> 1.     The "online ddpak" is a reference to the online site for
device drivers run
> by IBM - the easiest way to locate it and access it is through
installing the
> OS/2 Device Driver CD which comes with WARP 4 or the URl which may
wrap is
> http://ps.software.ibm.com/pbin-usa-ps/getobj.pl?/pdocs-
usa/otherservices.html.

I've been wandering there.  The problem is that it's very hard to know
what's relevant to you and what isn't.  And I don't have a lot of time
to spend studying this stuff.  I don't just support this one machine. :)

the other thing is, the OS/2 machine doesn't have web access.  It
*only* does this print server function, and *literally* nothing else.
I don't want it doing anything else, it has a hard enough time with
just this print server function.

> 5.    Lucidity of expression is a big factor in these newsgroups - I
find that I
> sometimes have to (re) state (and I thought I was just repeating
myself) the
> problem twice or more to get responses addressing the problem- so I
recommend a
> large dose of patience in them

I certainly hope I wasn't coming across as impatient!  I'm certainly
grateful for all the help people have given me.  If it weren't for
these newsgroups, I'd be in deep doo doo! :)

--
Siobhan Perricone
PC Technician
Alltel Information Services
(I only speak for myself, not for Alltel)


Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.

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From: [e-mail]....               28-Oct-99 13:34:23
  To: All                                               28-Oct-99 14:45:06
Subj: Re: New OS/2 device driver development

Message sender: [e-mail]

From: [e-mail] (Jim Nuytens)

On Thu, 28 Oct 1999 09:02:02, [e-mail] (TB)
wrote:

> W95 (up to 4.00.1**** anyway) is just as USB-impaired as OS2. You mean W98.
> Th.

No, I meant what I said. W95 OSR2 does work with most USB devices
better than OS/2. Next time, you might think a bit before you answer.



"The bureaucratic mentality is the only constant in the universe."
Dr. McCoy to Kirk / Star Trek IV:The Voyage Home

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From: [e-mail]                           28-Oct-99 13:36:27
  To: All                                               28-Oct-99 14:45:06
Subj: OS/2 V 2.1 and Y2K

From: [e-mail] (Charles Whitby)

I'm an OS/2 (half-OS?) newbie doing a project with some customers who still
utilize OS/2 Ver 2.1 on some systems.

Can 2.1 be made Y2K compliant (other then upgrading to V3 or 4)?

Any info is greatly appreciated.

Thanks

(Pardon the half-OS remark.  I couldn't resist....)

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From: [e-mail]                         28-Oct-99 14:38:16
  To: All                                               28-Oct-99 14:45:06
Subj: Re: Networking 2 home computers...

From: [e-mail] (Stewart Honsberger)

On Thu, 28 Oct 1999 06:56:06 -0400, Jerry McBride wrote:
>Anyone here done a 2 computer network with fibre? I'm saving up the computer
>budget money to do just that and I'm interested in anything you have to
comment
>on this subject.

You can do it with a Twisted Pair CAT-5 cable. Don't confuse twisted pair
with regular CAT-5, though. Twisted pair is used to directly connect two
computers, while normal CAT-5 has to go through a hub.

Get two (10 or 100)MBPS NICs with an RJ45 connector, plug 'em into each of
your computers, and put the twisted pair cable between them. Then just setup
your LAN like you would with coax cable.

A twisted pair cable (about 10') will run you somewhere in the area of $5
to $10.

OTOH - if you're thinking of adding more computers later, it might be worth
your while to get a 5 port hub. Just get two pieces of normal CAT-5 cable
and connect them to the hub (you'll have to RTFM for the hub).

--
Stewart Honsberger (AKA Blackdeath) @ http://sprk.com/blackdeath/
[e-mail]  (Remove 'thirteen' to reply privately)
Humming along under SuSE Linux 6.0 / OS/2 Warp 4

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From: [e-mail]                                         28-Oct-99 16:38:16
  To: All                                               28-Oct-99 14:45:06
Subj: Re: Lexmark Optra 40

From: Colin Brace <[e-mail]>

In <[e-mail]>, on 10/28/99
   at 02:03 AM, [e-mail] (Ted Miller) said:

> I have just acquired one of these printers .

I have seen these advertised rather cheaply at places like firesale.com.
May I ask where you bought yours from and how much you paid?

--
  Colin Brace <[e-mail]>
  Amsterdam
  http://www.lim.nl


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From: [e-mail]                         28-Oct-99 14:39:19
  To: All                                               28-Oct-99 14:45:06
Subj: Re: Warp 4 - How do you change the computer name?

From: [e-mail] (Stewart Honsberger)

On Thu, 28 Oct 1999 10:28:43 -0400, Don Thimsen wrote:
>When Warp 4 installs, a generated name is assigned
>to the machine (i.e., CLIENT012).  Is there a way to change this
>name???

Change the HOSTNAME env. variable in your config.sys.

Mine reads;

SET HOSTNAME=BLACKDEATH

--
Stewart Honsberger (AKA Blackdeath) @ http://sprk.com/blackdeath/
[e-mail]  (Remove 'thirteen' to reply privately)
Humming along under SuSE Linux 6.0 / OS/2 Warp 4

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From: *****@ix.netcom.com                               28-Oct-99 11:04:06
  To: All                                               28-Oct-99 14:45:06
Subj: Re: Networking 2 home computers...

From: "Spotillius Maximus aka \"Spot\"" <*****@ix.netcom.com>

> You can do it with a Twisted Pair CAT-5 cable. Don't confuse twisted pair
> with regular CAT-5, though. Twisted pair is used to directly connect two
> computers, while normal CAT-5 has to go through a hub.
>

CAT-5 is twisted pair.  What you are thinking of is called a cross-over
cable for connecting two computers without a hub. If you use a hub, the
cable is a straight through cable. Both are made from CAT-5 cable, or should
be.




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From: [e-mail]                                  27-Oct-99 19:53:05
  To: All                                               28-Oct-99 14:45:06
Subj: Re: Help with helps

From: [e-mail] (Frank Beythien)

On Wed, 27 Oct 1999 17:19:29, [e-mail] wrote:

> Where on my system can I find help for working with DSK files?  I have tried
at
> the command line "help dsk" and "help loaddskf" (among other things).  If
IBM is
> so determined to keep using floppy technology there must be info about it
> somewhere.

Enter loaddskf without any options. the same with loadram2 / saveram2.
These are nice little commandline utilities, which made handling files
on diskettes easier and quicker for me.
As these are tools developed by IBMers on their owntime, IIRC, they
are not very well documented.
But I've become familiar with it over the years..
For bootos2 I made a small .cmd file which contains only the bootos2
call with the correct options I need.
So I can just regenerate the diskettes / partition when new versions
arrive ... as 9.25 did a few days ago.

CU/2
Frank
--
Frank Beythien   [e-mail]

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From: [e-mail]                          28-Oct-99 15:19:23
  To: All                                               28-Oct-99 14:45:06
Subj: Re: My big mouth.

From: [e-mail] (Timothy J. Bogart)

In article <[e-mail]>,
Michael W. Cocke  <[e-mail]> wrote:
>On Wed, 27 Oct 1999 23:16:08 -0400, [e-mail] wrote:
>
>>Apparently my big mouth has had a good effect in at least one case.
>>
>>I just got a note from http://computergeek.com that they have fixed their
sales
>>system so non-M$ Explorer browsers can use it.  I went there and, surely
enough,
>>I was able to put merchandise into my shopping cart.
>>
>>Unfortunately there is still a hang up in the checkout, but I have informed
them
>>of that and expect it will be fixed.
>>
>>Interestingly, this is the only place I have been able to find a mouse I
have
>>found to be highly servicable.
>>
>>Jim L
>>Remove XX from address to Email
>>Crooks and kooks will get guns regardless of laws.
>>
>>
>
>I decided to take a look, and all I got at that url was a screen saying
>to check back in august.  (August!?)
>
>Mike-
>
>
>========================================================================
>Member: DNRC            Watcher: Babylon 5              User: OS/2 Warp
>
>        If you're going to do something, do something worth doing.
>------------------------------------------------------------------------

Color me confused.  Netscape on 98, NT, Linux works fine....

BTW, have dropped several dollars with these folks....


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From: [e-mail]                         28-Oct-99 15:44:12
  To: All                                               28-Oct-99 14:45:06
Subj: Re: Networking 2 home computers...

From: [e-mail] (Stewart Honsberger)

On Thu, 28 Oct 1999 11:04:12 -0400, Spotillius Maximus aka \"Spot\" wrote:
>> You can do it with a Twisted Pair CAT-5 cable. Don't confuse twisted pair
>> with regular CAT-5, though. Twisted pair is used to directly connect two
>> computers, while normal CAT-5 has to go through a hub.
>
>CAT-5 is twisted pair.  What you are thinking of is called a cross-over
>cable for connecting two computers without a hub. If you use a hub, the
>cable is a straight through cable. Both are made from CAT-5 cable, or should
>be.

{sigh} You're right. My bad.. Been doing accounting work these last couple
of days, not computer work. Too many numbers stuck in my head to remember
the important stuff :>

It also doesn't reflect well on me since I've got a cross-over cable in my
pile'o'parts - still packaged and labeled :/

--
Stewart Honsberger (AKA Blackdeath) @ http://sprk.com/blackdeath/
[e-mail]  (Remove 'thirteen' to reply privately)
Humming along under SuSE Linux 6.0 / OS/2 Warp 4

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From: [e-mail]                           28-Oct-99 14:09:22
  To: All                                               28-Oct-99 14:45:07
Subj: Re: MSWinNT 4 share causes TRAP 000d?

From: [e-mail] (Lorne Sunley)

On Thu, 28 Oct 1999 03:35:45, [e-mail] (Frank
McKenney) wrote:

>
> Is there any reason why sharing a drive (okay, partition) on a MSWinNT 4
> box should cause my OS/2 system (Warp 4, XR_M012) to trap?
>
> For the past four weeks I've had an HP Pentium-III as a third box on my
> internal network.  Until recently my use of the network connection had
> been sporadic, since my initial development effort has been done under
> OS/2.  Now that I'm installing code on the NT box and testing it, I've
> made its E:  partition (2 Gb) accessible and am NET USEing it from OS/2.
>
> Unfortunately, after almost eight _months_ without a trap, OS/2 has died
> horribly four times in the past two weeks.  In all cases I was
> performing operations on files (opening, creating, deleting, etc.)  on
> the NT shared partition at either a DOS or an OS/2 command prompt.
>
> Any suggestions on what might be causing this to happen (and how I might
> avoid it in the future) would be appreciated.  If it makes any
> difference (one would't think it would) the other box on the LAN is a
> 486DX4-100 system running S.u.S.E Linux v5.3.
>
> Here are the critical elements extracted from the first standalone dump
> diskette (DUMPDATA.001).  This approach beats the H*ll out of copying
> that silly stuff from the screen, and it provides more information:  the
> "Exception in IFNET$" line never made it to the screen.
>
> --
> ##0168:fff4832e - 000e:c32e    , 05860526
> 9084  9084
>
> Exception in device driver: IFNET$
>
> TRAP 000d       ERRCD=0000  ERACC=****  ERLIM=********
> EAX=ffe18588  EBX=fff06a4c  ECX=00000003  EDX=000025c0
> ESI=fff08d74  EDI=fdf64f84  EBP=00001fc2  FLG=00012012
> CS:EIP=25f0:00005963  CSACC=009b  CSLIM=0000821b
> SS:ESP=00e8:00001fae  SSACC=0093  SSLIM=00001fff
> DS=25e8  DSACC=0093  DSLIM=00003381  CR0=8001001b
> ES=25e8  ESACC=0093  ESLIM=00003381  CR2=00029000
> FS=2360  FSACC=1093  FSLIM=0000ffff
> GS=0000  GSACC=****  GSLIM=********
> --
> Internal revision 9.036, 99/07/20

There was a problem with some versions of MPTS
that would trap when both TCP/IP and NETBIOS
were bound to the same NIC.

What version of MPTS and stack fixes are you running?

Lorne Sunley

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From: [e-mail]                           28-Oct-99 14:15:11
  To: All                                               28-Oct-99 14:45:07
Subj: Re: OS/2 V 2.1 and Y2K

From: [e-mail] (Lorne Sunley)

On Thu, 28 Oct 1999 13:36:55, [e-mail] (Charles Whitby)
wrote:

> I'm an OS/2 (half-OS?) newbie doing a project with some customers who still
> utilize OS/2 Ver 2.1 on some systems.
>
> Can 2.1 be made Y2K compliant (other then upgrading to V3 or 4)?
>
> Any info is greatly appreciated.
>
> Thanks
>
> (Pardon the half-OS remark.  I couldn't resist....)

OS/2 version 2.1 cannot be made Y2K compliant.
IBM had to have a way of convincing all the ATM
manufacturers that they should upgrade the OS in
their machines :-).

You should upgrade to Warp 4 as Warp 3 is now out
of service (as of a couple of months back?).

The latest fixpack for Warp 3 is fixpack 40.

Warp 4 will need at least fixpack 5 or 6 to be Y2K
and the latest FP level is 12.

PS - half-OS, I wonder if it could be used as a marketing
ploy.......?

Lorne Sunley


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From: [e-mail]...               28-Oct-99 14:19:24
  To: All                                               28-Oct-99 14:45:07
Subj: Re: Lexmark Optra 40

Message sender: [e-mail]

From: [e-mail] (Rod Smith)

[Posted and mailed]

In article <[e-mail]>,
    [e-mail] (Ted Miller) writes:
>
>    I have noticed that there is a considerable delay between the the time a
> print job is sent to the spooler and the printer actually starts printing.
> E.G. I just printed a 3.5 x 5.0 inch jpg file through PMview and the printer
> spent about 4 minutes in processing mode before the image was printed. Is
this
> normal performance for a postscript based printer?

It's normal for the printer to take some time processing the image.
Whether 4 minutes for a bitmap is normal is a question I can't answer.  It
really depends on a lot of things, such as the speed of the CPU in the
printer, the nature of the PostScript file produced by OS/2, etc.

> Would adding more memory to
> the base 4 megs speed up the processing?

Possibly.  I can't guarantee it.  4MB is pretty slim for a color
PostScript printer, though.  If nothing else, increasing the RAM is likely
to increase the number of files you can print -- that is, with only 4MB,
sooner or later you'll likely run into a file that the printer can't print
because it has insufficient RAM.

> Is there anything else one can do to
> speed up the processing or is this just a characteristic of postscript
> printers?

Using a different driver or different program to produce the output might
help.  There might also be driver options that would improve matters.

>     Also does anyone have an idea of how to use this printer in PCL5
emulation
> mode. The installation process only installed the postscript driver. Do I
have
> to install a different driver to use PCL5 mode? I Looked on the insallation
CD
> and although there were PCL5 drivers the Optra 40 was not listed in them.
How
> does PCL5 differ from Postscript? Is there an advantage to use one over the
> other? Am I even asking the right or pertinent questions in regards to the
> above paragraph?

PostScript is a page description language (PDL) created by Adobe in the
1980s that supported, even then, some pretty advanced features.  PCL is a
PDL developed by Hewlett-Packard in the 1980s.  At its inception, PCL was
pretty weak compared to PostScript -- PCL was more like the Escape-code
languages of dot-matrix printers, really.  Over time, both languages
improved, but PCL has improved more than PostScript, so they're now closer
to being similar in power, although PostScript probably still has the edge
in most respects.

Because they're completely different and unrelated languages, you do need
a different driver to use PCL mode.  I'm not familiar with the Optra 40
per se, but most modern printers that support both modes will auto-detect
which one to use, so you can just install a PCL 5 driver and print.  It's
best if the driver you install is specific to the printer, though, so that
it can use any of the printer's unique features, and so it knows about the
printer's margin capabilities and whatnot.

--
Rod Smith       [e-mail]
http://members.bellatlantic.net/~smithrod
Author of _Special Edition Using Corel WordPerfect 8 for Linux_, from Que

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From: [e-mail]                               28-Oct-99 10:28:21
  To: All                                               28-Oct-99 14:45:07
Subj: Warp 4 - How do you change the computer name?

From: "Don Thimsen" <[e-mail]>

When Warp 4 installs, a generated name is assigned
to the machine (i.e., CLIENT012).  Is there a way to change this
name???

Thanks,
Don


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From: [e-mail]                          28-Oct-99 14:28:05
  To: All                                               28-Oct-99 14:45:07
Subj: Re: OS/2 V 2.1 and Y2K

From: [e-mail] (Annie K.)

On Thu, 28 Oct 1999 13:36:55, [e-mail] (Charles Whitby)
wrote:

:Can 2.1 be made Y2K compliant (other then upgrading to V3 or 4)?

 No.

--
Klaatu barada nikto

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From: [e-mail]                                28-Oct-99 10:33:16
  To: All                                               28-Oct-99 14:45:07
Subj: Re: My big mouth.

From: [e-mail]

Michael W. Cocke <[e-mail]> said:

>>I just got a note from http://computergeek.com that they have fixed their
sales

>I decided to take a look, and all I got at that url was a screen saying  to
>check back in august.  (August!?)

I'm terribly sorry about that.  My mistake.  There should be an "s" on GEEK.
The URL is:

http://computergeeks.com/

Jim L
Remove XX from address to Email
Crooks and kooks will get guns regardless of laws.


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From: [e-mail]                                28-Oct-99 10:23:28
  To: All                                               28-Oct-99 14:45:07
Subj: Re: Help with helps

From: [e-mail]

"Wayne Bickell" <[e-mail]> said:

>Go to Hobbes and do a search for DS4PM it makes working with
>these disk images painless.

Thanks.  I hope you're right.  I haven't fathomed, yet, why anyone would want
to
put a file inside dsk, then that inside a zip, then unzip it, then un-dsk it
to
a floppy then move it from the floppy back again onto the hard drive.  Its a
whole lot of silly fooling around if you ask me.

Jim L
Remove XX from address to Email
Crooks and kooks will get guns regardless of laws.


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From: [e-mail]                                28-Oct-99 10:20:19
  To: All                                               28-Oct-99 14:45:07
Subj: Re: Bootos2 options

From: [e-mail]

[e-mail] said:

>I took an old english dictionary and there it was explained that this has
>something to do with soldiers marching in a row etc.... I really had a hard
>time to find out what the word means just guessing and taking the context
into
>account - and there was still no internet where I could have asked questions
>:-))

>My point is: Some "very easy" things definitely ARE not easy for
>everybody...

My goodness!  To me a file is something you smooth metal with!

When switching from one OS to another a VERY long time ago, I had trouble
distinguishing file from record.

Jim L
Remove XX from address to Email
Crooks and kooks will get guns regardless of laws.


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From: [e-mail]                             28-Oct-99 09:18:14
  To: All                                               28-Oct-99 16:44:09
Subj: Re: New OS/2 device driver development

From: "David T. Johnson" <[e-mail]>


Bob Germer wrote:
>
> On <[e-mail]>, on 10/27/99 at 09:19 AM,
>    "David T. Johnson" <[e-mail]> said:
>
> > Well, the driver situation isn't great but, IMO, it isn't terrible
> > either.  The single biggest driver issue right now for OS/2 is getting
> > motherboard BIOSs that will allow OS/2 to find more than 64 MB of DRAM.
> > Many of the BIOS versions have an OS/2 memory > 64MB option but it often
> > does not work properly.  And yes, this isn't really a 'driver' issue but
> > it is important.
>
> Well, I don't know why you have such problems. I have >64 Megs on at least
> 2 dozen different motherboards either in my own shop or on clients'
> machines. We have no-name boards, Intel, Tyan, ASUS, Premio, and other
> motherboards in the mix, all of which recognize more than 64 Megs.
>

Some of the newest boards with AMI and Award BIOSs have recently been
having problems with this.  Hopefully, the BIOS vendors will fix this
soon.

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From: [e-mail]                             28-Oct-99 13:14:28
  To: All                                               28-Oct-99 16:44:09
Subj: Re: Lexmark Optra 40

From: "John W. Kennedy" <[e-mail]>

Ted Miller wrote:

Sometimes PostScript is better, sometimes PCL is better.  Lexmark
provides drivers for both.  The two are so utterly different that if
there's a bug in one, it probably won't affect the other, which is nice,
too.

--
-John W. Kennedy
[e-mail]
Compact is becoming contract
Man only earns and pays.  -- Charles Williams

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From: [e-mail]               28-Oct-99 10:49:22
  To: All                                               28-Oct-99 16:44:09
Subj: Re: New OS/2 device driver development

From: "Kim Cheung" <[e-mail]>

On 28 Oct 1999 13:34:47 GMT, Jim Nuytens wrote:

>Next time, you might think a bit before you answer.

Please, please, please.   Not this kind of talk again.    Just when these
newsgroups are now rid of Tim Martin and Brad Wardell the Great,  and most of
the MVPs, let's bring some senity back to our discussion of OS/2.


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From: [e-mail]                           28-Oct-99 13:52:02
  To: All                                               28-Oct-99 16:44:09
Subj: Re: MS .asf files on Linux?

From: "Mark L. Kahnt" <[e-mail]>

Stewart Honsberger wrote:
>
> On Wed, 27 Oct 1999 21:47:22 +0000, Erik de Castro Lopo wrote:
> >Until Micros~1 releases a Linux ASF player (about 1 second before hell
> >freezes over) or someone reverse engineers ASF you're not going to be
> >able to play that file on Linux.
>
> That's sortof obvious. :/
>
> I've been looking for the same thing - although I'll also accept an OS/2
> program to do same (hence the additional newsgroup).
>
> --
> Stewart Honsberger (AKA Blackdeath) @ http://sprk.com/blackdeath/
> [e-mail]  (Remove 'thirteen' to reply privately)
> Humming along under SuSE Linux 6.0 / OS/2 Warp 4

Shhhh, but NetShow (which was the previous ASF player) was available for
Linux for some time - I haven't touched it for quite some time because
all it ever did was shriek. In fact, that is all I've gotten from that
or Windows Media Player on any platform, try as I might to sort it out.
Add in that they do not have a release that will install on Windows NT
3.51 (the 32 bit version requires NT 4 and some service pack, the 16 bit
version sees NT and tells you to use the 32 bit version. I installed the
16 bit release under OS/2 and Win-OS2 and use that under NT 3.51 - still
all I get is the shriek...
--

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to imply the support or involvement of Hormel Foods in conjunction
with such Internet abuse. Indeed, Hormel has publicly expressed
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From: [e-mail]                                   28-Oct-99 14:02:14
  To: All                                               28-Oct-99 16:44:09
Subj: Re: Lexmark Optra 40

From: [e-mail] (Harry Travis)

In <38185feb$1$po$[e-mail]>, on 10/28/99
   at 04:38 PM, Colin Brace <[e-mail]> said:

>In <[e-mail]>, on 10/28/99
>   at 02:03 AM, [e-mail] (Ted Miller) said:

>> I have just acquired one of these printers .

>I have seen these advertised rather cheaply at places like
>firesale.com. May I ask where you bought yours from and how much you
>paid?

www.buysurplus.com:  $220 (US) shipping included until 1/1/2000 $180 at
another US firm + shipping.


--
-----------------------------------------------------------
[e-mail] (Harry Travis)
DemostiX
-----------------------------------------------------------

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From: [e-mail]                                    28-Oct-99 18:46:16
  To: All                                               28-Oct-99 16:44:09
Subj: Re: MS .asf files on Linux?

From: Jack Madison <[e-mail]>

"Mark L. Kahnt" wrote:
>
<<<---SNIP--->>>

> Shhhh, but NetShow (which was the previous ASF player) was available for
> Linux for some time - I haven't touched it for quite some time because
> all it ever did was shriek. In fact, that is all I've gotten from that
> or Windows Media Player on any platform, try as I might to sort it out.
> Add in that they do not have a release that will install on Windows NT
> 3.51 (the 32 bit version requires NT 4 and some service pack, the 16 bit
> version sees NT and tells you to use the 32 bit version. I installed the
> 16 bit release under OS/2 and Win-OS2 and use that under NT 3.51 - still
> all I get is the shriek...
> --
>
<<<---SNIP--->>>

I'd be happy to give the old NetShow for linux a try if I could find
it...  M$ web site doesn't have it any longer (I never saw it in the
first place), and their promise to support unix seems half-hearted.  I
have even installed Win98 on a second drive, but Win98 chokes on both my
network card (which I can live without), and my Sound card (Creative
Labs AudioPCI).  I was actually quite surprised when Win98 (including
creative labs Win98 drivers) failed to use my soundcard after
linux/sndconfig just plain worked..

Any other thoughts, suggestions, or pointers to the old NetShow for
Linux program before I just give up for now?

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From: [e-mail]                               28-Oct-99 14:08:13
  To: All                                               28-Oct-99 16:44:09
Subj: Re: Networking 2 home computers...

From: "Michael Guyear" <[e-mail]>

Way over priced. I did this once in the lab just for fun, only 10 MBS
though. It's no faster than 10MB TP (of course) and way more expensive for
the fiber interfaces. Only reason I could see for this is in long distance
runs or very noisy environments.


> Anyone here done a 2 computer network with fibre? I'm saving up the
computer
> budget money to do just that and I'm interested in anything you have to
comment
> on this subject.



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From: [e-mail]                     28-Oct-99 20:07:29
  To: All                                               28-Oct-99 16:44:09
Subj: Re: WSeB Client sorta news

From: [e-mail] (K.-P. Kirchdoerfer)

On Thu, 28 Oct 1999 06:52:20 -0400, Jerry McBride <[e-mail]> wrote:
>In article <[e-mail]>,
>Scott <[e-mail]> wrote:
>>I was over on Stardocks newsgroup and saw this, it was interesting (if
>>not a little confusing as to what it means)...  enjoy...
>>
>>>
>>> There IS a service offering from IBM for installation and support of
>>> an official Aurora Client to be officially announced within the next
>>> couple of days.
>>>
>
>--- snip ---
>
>It simply means that a new OS/2 client will be offered sometime in the next
>couple of months. It' won't be on a CD that you can orderup and have mailed
to
>your address. It'll be provided as part of a service, where an IBM employee
>comes to your place of business and installs the thing...
>
>You "are" a business customer, aren't you??? :')

IMHO it might be something like a Redbook how to install
(about a thousands clients at a time) with CID-Scripts from the
WSEB-CD's - IF you have bought the expensive server and IF
you'll pay the fee.
Don't expect to get someone from IBM doing your work :)

The main thing in this announcment seems to be, that there
definitely will be a new client, but NOT, (NO, NEVER!!)
for SOHO-users.

Never considered myself as SOHO, I'm confident, that this
new client might force myself to update the six-year-old
WarpConnect installation :)

kp

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From: [e-mail]                     28-Oct-99 19:29:02
  To: All                                               28-Oct-99 16:44:09
Subj: Re: MSWinNT 4 share causes TRAP 000d?

From: [e-mail] (Frank McKenney)

In <qpkdVVNoMoTk-pn2-veOztqGqPT5V@tcpserver>, [e-mail] (Lorne
Sunley) writes:
>On Thu, 28 Oct 1999 03:35:45, [e-mail] (Frank
>McKenney) wrote:
>
>>
>> Is there any reason why sharing a drive (okay, partition) on a MSWinNT 4
>> box should cause my OS/2 system (Warp 4, XR_M012) to trap?
>>
>> For the past four weeks I've had an HP Pentium-III as a third box on my
>> internal network.  Until recently my use of the network connection had
>> been sporadic, since my initial development effort has been done under
>> OS/2.  Now that I'm installing code on the NT box and testing it, I've
>> made its E:  partition (2 Gb) accessible and am NET USEing it from OS/2.
>>
>> Unfortunately, after almost eight _months_ without a trap, OS/2 has died
>> horribly four times in the past two weeks.  In all cases I was
>> performing operations on files (opening, creating, deleting, etc.)  on
>> the NT shared partition at either a DOS or an OS/2 command prompt.
>>
>> Any suggestions on what might be causing this to happen (and how I might
>> avoid it in the future) would be appreciated.  If it makes any
>> difference (one would't think it would) the other box on the LAN is a
>> 486DX4-100 system running S.u.S.E Linux v5.3.
>>
>> Here are the critical elements extracted from the first standalone dump
>> diskette (DUMPDATA.001).  This approach beats the H*ll out of copying
>> that silly stuff from the screen, and it provides more information:  the
>> "Exception in IFNET$" line never made it to the screen.
>>
>> --
>> ##0168:fff4832e - 000e:c32e    , 05860526
>> 9084  9084
>>
>> Exception in device driver: IFNET$
>>
>> TRAP 000d       ERRCD=0000  ERACC=****  ERLIM=********
>> EAX=ffe18588  EBX=fff06a4c  ECX=00000003  EDX=000025c0
>> ESI=fff08d74  EDI=fdf64f84  EBP=00001fc2  FLG=00012012
>> CS:EIP=25f0:00005963  CSACC=009b  CSLIM=0000821b
>> SS:ESP=00e8:00001fae  SSACC=0093  SSLIM=00001fff
>> DS=25e8  DSACC=0093  DSLIM=00003381  CR0=8001001b
>> ES=25e8  ESACC=0093  ESLIM=00003381  CR2=00029000
>> FS=2360  FSACC=1093  FSLIM=0000ffff
>> GS=0000  GSACC=****  GSLIM=********
>> --
>> Internal revision 9.036, 99/07/20
>
>There was a problem with some versions of MPTS
>that would trap when both TCP/IP and NETBIOS
>were bound to the same NIC.
>
>What version of MPTS and stack fixes are you running?

Lorne,

Thank you for an incredibly quick response.  Here are selected portions
of my SYSLEVEL output, if you need any other information please feel
free to ask:

--
C:\IBMCOM\SYSLEVEL.TRP      IBM OS/2 LAN Adapter and Protocol Support
Version 5.10     Component ID 5639A5700
Current CSD level: WR08400  Prior   CSD level: WR08210

C:\IBMINST\SYSLEVEL.WCB     OS/2 Warp Networking Services Installation
Version 4.00     Component ID 5939a9200
Current CSD level: IP08400  Prior   CSD level: IP08400

C:\IBMLAN\SYSLEVEL.PER      IBM Peer for OS/2
Version 4.00     Component ID 5639A6000
Current CSD level: IP08400  Prior   CSD level: IP02001

C:\IBMLAN\SYSLEVEL.REQ      IBM OS/2 LAN Requester
Version 5.04     Component ID 5639A6000
Current CSD level: IP08406  Prior   CSD level: IP08400

C:\MPTN\SYSLEVEL.DHC IBM OS/2 DynamicHostConfiguration Protocol Services
Version 4.00     Component ID 562290901
Current CSD level: WR08400  Prior   CSD level: WR08210

C:\MPTN\SYSLEVEL.MPT        IBM OS/2 TCP/IP Stack
Version 5.10     Component ID 5639B1700
Current CSD level: WR08400  Prior   CSD level: WR08210

C:\OS2\INSTALL\SYSLEVEL.FPK OS/2 Warp 4 Service Level
Version 1.00     Component ID 566933010     Type Fixpak
Current CSD level: XR0M012  Prior   CSD level: XR0M012

C:\OS2\INSTALL\SYSLEVEL.OS2 IBM OS/2 Base Operating System
Version 4.00     Component ID 5639A6100     Type 0C
Current CSD level: XR0M012  Prior   CSD level: XR04000

C:\OS2\INSTALL\SYSLEVEL.BDD IBM OS/2 Base Device Drivers
Version 4.00     Component ID 5639A6100     Type 0C
Current CSD level: XR0D001  Prior   CSD level: XR04000

C:\TCPIP\BIN\SYSLEVEL.DBX   IBM OS/2 TCPIP DOS Windows
Version 4.00     Component ID 5639A6500
Current CSD level: UN00000  Prior   CSD level: UN00000

C:\TCPIP\BIN\SYSLEVEL.IAK    IBM Internet Connection for Warp
Version 4.00     Component ID 5639A6400
Current CSD level: UN00000  Prior   CSD level: UN00000

C:\TCPIP\BIN\SYSLEVEL.TCP   IBM TCP/IP for Warp

Version 4.00     Component ID 5639A6600
Current CSD level: UN00000  Prior   CSD level: UN00000
--


Frank McKenney, McKenney Associates
Richmond, Virginia / [phone]
E-mail: [e-mail]

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From: [e-mail]                                    28-Oct-99 20:12:15
  To: All                                               28-Oct-99 16:44:09
Subj: Re: Warp 4 - How do you change the computer name?

From: [e-mail] (Bob Eager)

On Thu, 28 Oct 1999 14:39:39, [e-mail] (Stewart
Honsberger) wrote:

> On Thu, 28 Oct 1999 10:28:43 -0400, Don Thimsen wrote:
> >When Warp 4 installs, a generated name is assigned
> >to the machine (i.e., CLIENT012).  Is there a way to change this
> >name???
>
> Change the HOSTNAME env. variable in your config.sys.
>
> Mine reads;
>
> SET HOSTNAME=BLACKDEATH

Not quite. That one is the TCP/IP hostname, and doesn't get assigned
automatically. I suspect he wanted the OTHER one - used by Peer.

Edit \IBMLAN\IBMLAN.INI; change the COMPUTERNAME= line (quite a long
way down; line 172 on mine)

--
Bob Eager
rde at tavi.co.uk
PC Server 325; PS/2s 8595*3, 9595*3 (2*P60 + P90), 8535, 8570, 9556*2,
8580*6,
8557*2, 8550, 9577, 8530, P70, PC/AT..

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From: [e-mail]                           28-Oct-99 20:36:03
  To: All                                               28-Oct-99 19:56:01
Subj: Re: MSWinNT 4 share causes TRAP 000d?

From: [e-mail] (Lorne Sunley)

On Thu, 28 Oct 1999 19:29:04, [e-mail] (Frank
McKenney) wrote:

> In <qpkdVVNoMoTk-pn2-veOztqGqPT5V@tcpserver>, [e-mail] (Lorne
Sunley) writes:
> >On Thu, 28 Oct 1999 03:35:45, [e-mail] (Frank
> >McKenney) wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> Is there any reason why sharing a drive (okay, partition) on a MSWinNT 4
> >> box should cause my OS/2 system (Warp 4, XR_M012) to trap?
> >>
> >> For the past four weeks I've had an HP Pentium-III as a third box on my
> >> internal network.  Until recently my use of the network connection had
> >> been sporadic, since my initial development effort has been done under
> >> OS/2.  Now that I'm installing code on the NT box and testing it, I've
> >> made its E:  partition (2 Gb) accessible and am NET USEing it from OS/2.
> >>
> >> Unfortunately, after almost eight _months_ without a trap, OS/2 has died
> >> horribly four times in the past two weeks.  In all cases I was
> >> performing operations on files (opening, creating, deleting, etc.)  on
> >> the NT shared partition at either a DOS or an OS/2 command prompt.
> >>
> >> Any suggestions on what might be causing this to happen (and how I might
> >> avoid it in the future) would be appreciated.  If it makes any
> >> difference (one would't think it would) the other box on the LAN is a
> >> 486DX4-100 system running S.u.S.E Linux v5.3.
> >>
> >> Here are the critical elements extracted from the first standalone dump
> >> diskette (DUMPDATA.001).  This approach beats the H*ll out of copying
> >> that silly stuff from the screen, and it provides more information:  the
> >> "Exception in IFNET$" line never made it to the screen.
> >>
> >> --
> >> ##0168:fff4832e - 000e:c32e    , 05860526
> >> 9084  9084
> >>
> >> Exception in device driver: IFNET$
> >>
> >> TRAP 000d       ERRCD=0000  ERACC=****  ERLIM=********
> >> EAX=ffe18588  EBX=fff06a4c  ECX=00000003  EDX=000025c0
> >> ESI=fff08d74  EDI=fdf64f84  EBP=00001fc2  FLG=00012012
> >> CS:EIP=25f0:00005963  CSACC=009b  CSLIM=0000821b
> >> SS:ESP=00e8:00001fae  SSACC=0093  SSLIM=00001fff
> >> DS=25e8  DSACC=0093  DSLIM=00003381  CR0=8001001b
> >> ES=25e8  ESACC=0093  ESLIM=00003381  CR2=00029000
> >> FS=2360  FSACC=1093  FSLIM=0000ffff
> >> GS=0000  GSACC=****  GSLIM=********
> >> --
> >> Internal revision 9.036, 99/07/20
> >
> >There was a problem with some versions of MPTS
> >that would trap when both TCP/IP and NETBIOS
> >were bound to the same NIC.
> >
> >What version of MPTS and stack fixes are you running?
>
> Lorne,
>
> Thank you for an incredibly quick response.  Here are selected portions
> of my SYSLEVEL output, if you need any other information please feel
> free to ask:
>

<snip all the syslevel>

From the syslevel output you seem to running the base install
for MPTS and "file and print client"

Try updating to one of the latest versions of MPTS WR8423 (?)
for the 16 bit stack.

You could also try WR8610 which gives you the
newer 32 bit stack.

The Peer software is also at the base level so you might
try IP8407 for peer services (There are newer ones but they
cause a problem with re-starting Peer shares).

Lorne Sunley

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From: [e-mail]                                  28-Oct-99 22:37:11
  To: All                                               29-Oct-99 11:30:18
Subj: SIO and PCI I/O card

From: [e-mail] (Stan Goodman)

I have available a 2-port PCI I/O card which requires
initialization/configuration at boot. It comes with a DOS executable that
does this, which amounts to its choosing an IRQ line and the port addresses
of the UARTs. This program would have to be run in STARTUP.CMD or in the
Startup folder, i.e. after SIO (or COM, for that matter) has set up serial
ports in CONFIG.SYS.

Given that I would know beforehand what IRQ would be chosen, and that I
have specified the UART addresses, is this sequence legal? Or would SIO
have to have the ports already configured before the SIO line in CONFIG.SYS
-- which I do not see a way to accomplish?

-------------
Stan Goodman
Qiryat Tiv'on
Israel

Spammers are getting smarter; email sent to [e-mail] will not reach
me. Sorry.
Send E-mail to: domain: hashkedim dot com, username: stan.



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From: [e-mail]                            28-Oct-99 19:02:24
  To: All                                               29-Oct-99 11:30:18
Subj: Re: Wesb Boot

From: "Valheru" <[e-mail]>

FYI, I moved to Florida from Canada and some disks got broken during the
move so please don't make assumptions you know nothing about. I did not know
that this wasn't a binary group, sorry for asking for files.



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From: [e-mail]                                28-Oct-99 18:16:21
  To: All                                               29-Oct-99 11:30:18
Subj: Re: Networking 2 home computers...

From: [e-mail] (Jerry McBride)

In article <[e-mail]>,
"Michael Guyear" <[e-mail]> wrote:
>Way over priced. I did this once in the lab just for fun, only 10 MBS
>though. It's no faster than 10MB TP (of course) and way more expensive for
>the fiber interfaces. Only reason I could see for this is in long distance
>runs or very noisy environments.
>

Yes, noise is a concern as we run a couple of welders in the work place...

:')

But no faster than 10baseT?

>
>> Anyone here done a 2 computer network with fibre? I'm saving up the
>computer
>> budget money to do just that and I'm interested in anything you have to
>comment
>> on this subject.
>
>
>

--

*******************************************************************************

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*
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*
*
*
*                      GET IT NOW! WHILE IT'S STILL FREE!
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From: [e-mail]                            28-Oct-99 19:00:26
  To: All                                               29-Oct-99 11:30:18
Subj: Disks

From: "Valheru" <[e-mail]>

FYI, I moved to Florida from Canada and some disks got broken during the
move so please don't make assumptions you know nothing about. I did not know
that this wasn't a binary group, sorry for asking for files.


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From: [e-mail]                              28-Oct-99 16:15:08
  To: All                                               29-Oct-99 11:30:18
Subj: System crash

From: James <[e-mail]>

Has anybody had this happen.

I had a big file and OS/2 was swapping like crazy.  With the application
shut down, I started Comm/2 and soon after the system froze.  I CADed
and the system started to close down the hard drive, but then everything
frozeup, and all I could do was to shut everything off.  Upon reboot,
OS/2 was dead.  I used the utility disks and chksdk, but Chkdsk erased a
whole bunch of files (without prompting), none of them were core, but
many were in the config.sys.

I managed to get it up again, but a bunch of errors are appearing
becuase of missing files.  Although Gradd re-istalls, it gives and error
(sys1808 I think), but installs the drivers anyway and it seems to work.

A couple weeks ago, this happened on an adjacent machine, but I was
unable to get it running again.  I re-installed everything ... not fun.

Both computers have fp12 and comm/2 4.6 on them.  I think comm/2 was
being used at the time on both (after the heavy swapping).

Is this a residual error from the HPFS errors on fp11?

Anybody have any hints on how to prevent this again?

Cheers,
James

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From: [e-mail]                     28-Oct-99 23:34:28
  To: All                                               29-Oct-99 11:30:18
Subj: Re: MSWinNT 4 share causes TRAP 000d?

From: [e-mail] (Frank McKenney)

In <qpkdVVNoMoTk-pn2-mQN8030J3y5Y@tcpserver>, [e-mail] (Lorne
Sunley) writes:
--snip--
>> >On Thu, 28 Oct 1999 03:35:45, [e-mail] (Frank
>> >McKenney) wrote:
>> >> Is there any reason why sharing a drive (okay, partition) on a MSWinNT 4
>> >> box should cause my OS/2 system (Warp 4, XR_M012) to trap?
--snip--
><snip all the syslevel>
>
>From the syslevel output you seem to running the base install
>for MPTS and "file and print client"
>
>Try updating to one of the latest versions of MPTS WR8423 (?)
>for the 16 bit stack.
>
>You could also try WR8610 which gives you the
>newer 32 bit stack.
>
>The Peer software is also at the base level so you might
>try IP8407 for peer services (There are newer ones but they
>cause a problem with re-starting Peer shares).

Lorne,

Thanks.  I'll try to do light duty stuff until this weekend, then start
throwing FixPaks at the problem until it stops occurri...  er, I mean I
will execute a carefully planned program of selective software updates
until the problem is circumvented (;-).

I'll let you know what happens.


Frank McKenney, McKenney Associates
Richmond, Virginia / [phone]
E-mail: [e-mail]

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From: [e-mail]                    28-Oct-99 23:34:27
  To: All                                               29-Oct-99 11:30:18
Subj: Re: Disks

From: [e-mail] (John Hong)

Valheru ([e-mail]) wrote:
: FYI, I moved to Florida from Canada and some disks got broken during the
: move so please don't make assumptions you know nothing about. I did not know
: that this wasn't a binary group, sorry for asking for files.

    Did you ask IBM for a replacement?


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From: [e-mail]                                   28-Oct-99 23:57:12
  To: All                                               29-Oct-99 11:30:18
Subj: Re: Lexmark Optra 40

From: [e-mail] (Ted Miller)

In message <8YYR3.743$[e-mail]> -
[e-mail] (Rod Smith) writes:
:>
:>[Posted and mailed]
:>
:>In article <[e-mail]>,
:>    [e-mail] (Ted Miller) writes:
:>>
:>>    I have noticed that there is a considerable delay between the the time
a
:>> print job is sent to the spooler and the printer actually starts printing.
:>> E.G. I just printed a 3.5 x 5.0 inch jpg file through PMview and the
printer
:>> spent about 4 minutes in processing mode before the image was printed. Is
this
:>> normal performance for a postscript based printer?
:>
:>It's normal for the printer to take some time processing the image.
:>Whether 4 minutes for a bitmap is normal is a question I can't answer.  It
:>really depends on a lot of things, such as the speed of the CPU in the
:>printer, the nature of the PostScript file produced by OS/2, etc.
:>

I was hoping someone who has actual experience with this printer would have
responded so I could have a direct comparison.


:>> Would adding more memory to
:>> the base 4 megs speed up the processing?
:>
:>Possibly.  I can't guarantee it.  4MB is pretty slim for a color
:>PostScript printer, though.  If nothing else, increasing the RAM is likely
:>to increase the number of files you can print -- that is, with only 4MB,
:>sooner or later you'll likely run into a file that the printer can't print
:>because it has insufficient RAM.
:>

Am I to understand that if a print job produces postscript output that is
greater than 4 megs per page the printer won't print? I picture a process
something like this:
     -an order is given to print a file
     -The file is dumped to the spooler
     -The printer driver produces postscript output which is dumped to the
printer's memory
     -when a page is recieved into printer memory, the printer begins to print

Are my perceptions correct or am I way off base?


:>Because they're completely different and unrelated languages, you do need
:>a different driver to use PCL mode.  I'm not familiar with the Optra 40
:>per se, but most modern printers that support both modes will auto-detect
:>which one to use, so you can just install a PCL 5 driver and print.  It's
:>best if the driver you install is specific to the printer, though, so that
:>it can use any of the printer's unique features, and so it knows about the
:>printer's margin capabilities and whatnot.
:>
:>--
:>Rod Smith       [e-mail]
:>http://members.bellatlantic.net/~smithrod
:>Author of _Special Edition Using Corel WordPerfect 8 for Linux_, from Que


I guess I will contact Lexmark and see what driver they suggest for PCL mode.
Rod I want to thank you again for the time and effort you took to craft your
excellent reply.

Ted Miller

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From: [e-mail]                                 28-Oct-99 19:09:28
  To: All                                               29-Oct-99 11:30:18
Subj: Notes Mail 4.1

From: William Pridgen <[e-mail]>

I'm on the verge of re-installing Warp 4, after a long hiatus.  Does
anyone use the Lotus Notes Mail that comes on a CD in the Warp 4 box?
Is it any good?  Thanks in advance.

--
Bill Pridgen
--
[e-mail]

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From: [e-mail]                                    28-Oct-99 19:33:02
  To: All                                               29-Oct-99 11:30:18
Subj: Re: PMMail 2.1?

From: "Antonio Relyea" <[e-mail]>

On Sun, 24 Oct 1999 13:21:21 +0800, Wayne Bickell wrote:

>When I ran the install program it detected my 2.0 install and offered
>to overwrite the existing files. No problems at all. Clicking on help/
>about shows my registration details.

I've searched the southsoft web site, I have seen no download for 2.1.  Any
help?

Tony.


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From: [e-mail]                                    28-Oct-99 19:36:04
  To: All                                               29-Oct-99 11:30:18
Subj: Re: New OS/2 device driver development

From: "Antonio Relyea" <[e-mail]>

On Wed, 27 Oct 1999 09:19:42 -0400, David T. Johnson wrote:

>Well, the driver situation isn't great but, IMO, it isn't terrible
>either.  The single biggest driver issue right now for OS/2 is getting
>motherboard BIOSs that will allow OS/2 to find more than 64 MB of DRAM.
>Many of the BIOS versions have an OS/2 memory > 64MB option but it often
>does not work properly.  And yes, this isn't really a 'driver' issue but
>it is important.

That 64MB thing is old hat.  The option is still there (AFAIK) for OS/2 2.11
and below.  I run 72MB and while DOS can't see it all, OS/2 does just fine.

Tony.


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From: [e-mail]                           29-Oct-99 00:59:19
  To: All                                               29-Oct-99 11:30:18
Subj: Re: MSWinNT 4 share causes TRAP 000d?

From: [e-mail] (Lorne Sunley)

On Thu, 28 Oct 1999 23:34:57, [e-mail] (Frank
McKenney) wrote:

> In <qpkdVVNoMoTk-pn2-mQN8030J3y5Y@tcpserver>, [e-mail] (Lorne
Sunley) writes:
> --snip--
> >> >On Thu, 28 Oct 1999 03:35:45, [e-mail] (Frank
> >> >McKenney) wrote:
> >> >> Is there any reason why sharing a drive (okay, partition) on a MSWinNT
4
> >> >> box should cause my OS/2 system (Warp 4, XR_M012) to trap?
> --snip--
> ><snip all the syslevel>
> >
> >From the syslevel output you seem to running the base install
> >for MPTS and "file and print client"
> >
> >Try updating to one of the latest versions of MPTS WR8423 (?)
> >for the 16 bit stack.
> >
> >You could also try WR8610 which gives you the
> >newer 32 bit stack.
> >
> >The Peer software is also at the base level so you might
> >try IP8407 for peer services (There are newer ones but they
> >cause a problem with re-starting Peer shares).
>
> Lorne,
>
> Thanks.  I'll try to do light duty stuff until this weekend, then start
> throwing FixPaks at the problem until it stops occurri...  er, I mean I
> will execute a carefully planned program of selective software updates
> until the problem is circumvented (;-).
>
> I'll let you know what happens.
>

The APAR database shows a number of Trap 000D problems
associated with IFNET$ but none of them exactly matches the
CS:EIP of the trap you got. They do result in updates of the
MPTS for that module. Some of them do not quote an exact
CS:EIP so they could apply. All of the ones shown would be
corrected by WR8423.

On my Warp 4 machine I run WR8610, to take advantage of
the faster processing using the 32 bit stack. I have two 100 Mbit
NICs connecting my workstation and test server (WR8620 WSeB).
I found that 8610 when it came out fixed a number of problems
(odd hangs etc) on a couple of networks with Warp clients
and Warp Server 4 where the clients were using the LAN
to connect to a dedicated Internet link.

Anyway the "throw a bunch of fixp.." er "what you said"
should/may correct the problem. I vaquely remember a
reference (that I can't find in the APAR database) about
some problems with Warp -> WinNT being corrected
by the later LAN fixpacks but I think that had to do with
an obvious popup trap error rather than a hard system
bkack screen trap at the driver level.

Good Luck

Lorne Sunley

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From: [e-mail]                          29-Oct-99 01:03:14
  To: All                                               29-Oct-99 11:30:18
Subj: Re: PMMail 2.1?

From: [e-mail] (Annie K.)

On Fri, 29 Oct 1999 00:33:05, "Antonio Relyea" <[e-mail]> wrote:

:I've searched the southsoft web site, I have seen no download for 2.1.  Any
:help?

 See http://www.blueprintsoftwareworks.com/

 PmMail doesn't belong to Southsoft anymore.

--
Klaatu barada nikto

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From: [e-mail]                              29-Oct-99 02:58:13
  To: All                                               29-Oct-99 11:30:19
Subj: Re: Warp Server not able to get available memory

From: James Moe <[e-mail]>


[e-mail] wrote:
>
> Thanks, Scott and Lorne.  We have an OS/2 guru of sorts who helped us
> configure HPFS386 to use an optimal cache size.
>
> But the problem isn't that we're running out of available memory - it's
> that DB2 isn't using it.  Memstat is sitting there telling us we have
> 429 MB of available RAM (after DB2 startup, HPFS cache allocation,
> etc), but we take the same configuration and ask for a total of 50,000
> pages (200 MB) of bufferpool and we don't get it.  If we run this
> configuration under Warp workstation, it works just fine.
>
> It's like Warp Server is limiting the amount of memory it'll give to
> running programs.
>
    Are you sure that the memory is not being used? That is, have doen
stuff with DB2 that demands the amount of memory allocated?
    It may be that the memory is made available to DB2 but not committed
until it is actually needed.


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From: [e-mail]                    28-Oct-99 19:28:22
  To: All                                               29-Oct-99 11:30:19
Subj: Re: Disks

From: "Graham C. Norris" <[e-mail]>

Valheru wrote:
> FYI, I moved to Florida from Canada and some disks got broken during the
> move so please don't make assumptions you know nothing about.

You might be suprised how many posters think they can persuade someone
to post things so that they can steal them. Maybe if you'd mentioned WHY
you needed the disks you wouldn't have received the same response.

Graham.

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From: [e-mail]                    28-Oct-99 19:31:05
  To: All                                               29-Oct-99 11:30:19
Subj: Re: Warp 4 - How do you change the computer name?

From: "Graham C. Norris" <[e-mail]>

Bob Eager wrote:
> On Thu, 28 Oct 1999 14:39:39, [e-mail] (Stewart
> Honsberger) wrote:
> > Change the HOSTNAME env. variable in your config.sys.
> >
> > Mine reads;
> >
> > SET HOSTNAME=BLACKDEATH
>
> Edit \IBMLAN\IBMLAN.INI; change the COMPUTERNAME= line (quite a long
> way down; line 172 on mine)

It's probably a good idea to change both of them to the same thing. Not
essential, but less confusing! (OTOH it may be essential if you've
configured NetBIOS over TCP/IP to talk to Winthing, but I'm not sertain
on that score.)

Graham.

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From: [e-mail]                    28-Oct-99 19:34:10
  To: All                                               29-Oct-99 11:30:19
Subj: Re: Tool to dissassemble desktop objects?

From: "Graham C. Norris" <[e-mail]>

Henk kelder wrote:
>
> Checkout wptoolxx.zip from:
>
> http://www.os2ss.com/information/kelder/index.html
>
> In the archive you'll find WPTOOLS.DLL which allows you to query object
> setupstrings.
>
> Henk

Oops, sorry Henk, forgot all about them! The price is undoubtably right
too, and they're probably better supported than the others I mentioned
too.

Graham.

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From: [e-mail]                               28-Oct-99 22:54:14
  To: All                                               29-Oct-99 11:30:19
Subj: Re: Warp 4 - How do you change the computer name?

From: "Don Thimsen" <[e-mail]>

Bob,

>>I suspect he wanted the OTHER one - used by Peer.<<

You're right.  This OS/2 system doesn't have TCP/IP installed -
NetBEUI and 802.2 only.

I did scan the system for all occurances of CLIENT012,
and believe I found and changed the IBMLAN.INI file
as well as several others.  However, after a boot a
NET STATUS command still shows "SERVER" name
as CLIENT012.  And other peers still connect to the
machine as \\CLIENT012\...

I'm not at work at the moment, so I can't play.  But
does Warp 4 require something besides changing
the name in the INI file?  Maybe change a parameter
somewhere in MPTS to force a rebuild? I did this once
several years ago, and it seemed easy on Warp 3.

Thanks,
Don



Bob Eager wrote in message <176uZD2KcidF-pn2-MW0WBGj74dII@rikki>...
>On Thu, 28 Oct 1999 14:39:39, [e-mail] (Stewart
>Honsberger) wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 28 Oct 1999 10:28:43 -0400, Don Thimsen wrote:
>> >When Warp 4 installs, a generated name is assigned
>> >to the machine (i.e., CLIENT012).  Is there a way to change this
>> >name???
>>
>> Change the HOSTNAME env. variable in your config.sys.
>>
>> Mine reads;
>>
>> SET HOSTNAME=BLACKDEATH
>
>Not quite. That one is the TCP/IP hostname, and doesn't get assigned
>automatically. I suspect he wanted the OTHER one - used by Peer.
>
>Edit \IBMLAN\IBMLAN.INI; change the COMPUTERNAME= line (quite a long
>way down; line 172 on mine)
>
>--
>Bob Eager
>rde at tavi.co.uk
>PC Server 325; PS/2s 8595*3, 9595*3 (2*P60 + P90), 8535, 8570, 9556*2,
>8580*6,
>8557*2, 8550, 9577, 8530, P70, PC/AT..


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From: [e-mail]                            28-Oct-99 19:50:00
  To: All                                               29-Oct-99 11:30:19
Subj: Warp 3 Connect and plug and play

From: "Bill Redifer" <[e-mail]>

I am not able to get my plug and play cards to work correctly under Warp 3
Connect. I have a P II 266 with an ATI All in Wonder Pro, Creative AWE 64,
And Dlink nic. The video is AGP. This is a multi boot system with Win 98, nt
4, Win wfw 311. The Bill Gates tuff is working OK.
OS/2 refusesto accept the the ATI drivers and Creative drivers for OS/2. Is
this a plug and play problem?
Thanks for your help.
Bill Redifer
[e-mail]



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From: [e-mail]                      28-Oct-99 11:16:21
  To: All                                               29-Oct-99 11:30:19
Subj: Re: Bootos2 options

From: [e-mail] (Sander Nyman)

On 10/27/99 at 01:29 PM, [e-mail] said:

>[e-mail] (Raphael Tennenbaum) said:

>>It's really hard for me to imagine you've been using OS/2 as
>>long as you have and can't fathom that the options listed

>As I said, I have stayed as far away from command line ANYTHING as
>possible.  This is the first time, anywhere, I have seen command line
>switches referred to as SYNTAX.  Maybe that is common as fleas on a dog
>where you hang out, but it is the only place I've seen it.

It is in fact used quite commonly.

>This is the thing I hate about OS/2 the most.  The idea that you have to
>think like a computer hacker to use it, and the idea that you're some
>kind of freak if you don't.

There is nothing here unique to OS/2 Jim.  Command line terminology is
commonly used on a variety of platforms, included Win9x.  You just didn't
"get it".  There is no shame in that.  Blaming OS/2 for your lack of
experience with the command line doesn't make much sense.  Try this.  Open
an OS/2 window.  At the prompt type an OS/2 command that you want
information on followed by a space, and /?. As an example:

CHKDSK /?

What will appear next is the syntax (and yes, the word syntax is used
throughout the help system ;-> ), and a description of the various
switches.  Do some experimentation, and it will become easy, and obvious
to work with.

Sander Nyman

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From: [e-mail]                              29-Oct-99 03:10:06
  To: All                                               29-Oct-99 11:30:19
Subj: Re: SIO and PCI I/O card

From: James Moe <[e-mail]>


Stan Goodman wrote:
>
> I have available a 2-port PCI I/O card which requires
> initialization/configuration at boot. It comes with a DOS executable that
> does this, which amounts to its choosing an IRQ line and the port addresses
> of the UARTs. This program would have to be run in STARTUP.CMD or in the
> Startup folder, i.e. after SIO (or COM, for that matter) has set up serial
> ports in CONFIG.SYS.
>
    Does the configuration program have to run every time? Usually these
are one time deals. If it has to run every time, I think you are SOL.
    You can set SIO or COM to assign particular IRQs/PORTs. I know that
SIO probes the ports when it starts; it doesn't acquire the ports if the
probe fails. The DEVICE line would look like:

DEVICE=SIO.SYS (1,3F8,4) (2,2f8,3)



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From: [e-mail]                                  29-Oct-99 03:15:25
  To: All                                               29-Oct-99 11:30:19
Subj: Simple networking question....

From: [e-mail] (Mark Mellin)

To preface: I know only enough to be dangerous !!

I'm looking to set up my Warp4 client with TCPIP 4.1
as a "gateway" on a "cable modem'd" home lan.

I wish to have access to printer resources, file
systems, as well as sharing internet access between
across OS/2, NT, and Win-9X.

1) Do I *need* PEER ??  (I've already tried
   installing Peer from the Warp4 CD, and the
   installs craps out with "processing locked
   files - insufficient HDD space. - the HDD
   boot partition has about 700Mb free...)

   I don't want Peer, I don't like IBM's clunky
   slapped-together utility approach to product
   integration - hell -it's a batch file away
   from the DOS based utility installs....

2) Can I use -or- do I *need* SafeFire or Injoy
   Firewall to accomplish/meet my networks
   objectives ??

3) Are there any traps or pitfalls I should be
   aware of ??

4) Other than the obvious, is there any reason
   I'd be better off using OS/2 Warp over NT
   Workstation or Server as a gateway??

5) Why the heck couldn't I find any documentation
   on the above :)


Thanks in advance for any help.
Mark Mellin




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From: [e-mail]                                     28-Oct-99 14:39:09
  To: All                                               29-Oct-99 11:30:19
Subj: Re: what brand and model PC today to buy for OS/2 ?

From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Bj=F8rn?= Vermo <[e-mail]>

[e-mail] wrote:

>
> uh, if I may reword your statement then ? the IntelliStation does not have
> OS/2 drivers for the Intergraph video card . . . otherwise, OS/2 support is
> fine. Some Intellistations come with Matrox cards, in which case you could
> say these were well supported.

Yes, and I really think we talk about two entirely different kinds of
"supported" here. IBM
sell the Intellistation as an "NT workstation", so that is the only thing they
officially are
required to support. Besides, you do not get the option not to buy NT, which I
resent. On the
other hand, no IBM PC-type system today is made in such a way that it will not
run OS/2, and
very well at that.


> Since OS/2 has no applications that can *use*
> the Intergraph card, it's kind of a moot point ! and I notice Scitech
indicates
> possible support for the Intergraph chips . . hooray !
>

One might hope this would change their policy a little, too - at least to the
point that they
might sell an Intellistation with no OS installed. I hate bundled software!

>
> on a related note, I deleted the preinstalled NT immediately on my 'station,
> had a hell of a time later reinstalling it -

Yes, installing NT may sometimes be a bit of a chore. It certainly is no
easier than to
install Warp 4. In both cases, it can be a lot of work unless you happen to
have the ideally
supported hardware mix. If it were not usually pre-installed, we would no
doubt hear a lot
about that.


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From: [e-mail]                                     28-Oct-99 13:06:12
  To: All                                               29-Oct-99 11:30:19
Subj: Re: Lexmark Optra 40

From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Bj=F8rn?= Vermo <[e-mail]>

Harry Travis wrote:

> >
> An inveterate OS/2 user reports that this printer will put many more
> smiles on your face if you shove some inexpensive 72 pin simms in it. If
> Postscript were meant to run within 4 meg, Lexmark wouldn't have led you
> to think 68 meg of memory is something anyone might want to shove in it.
> The big sister model 45 comes with 16 meg standard.

True enough. Today, RAM is cheap enough to get good bitmap throughput from
an inexpensiv eprinter.

It is quite possible to get good throughput from a 4MB PostScript printer if
it is used for what it is good at. PostScript is a programming language
which is excellent for vector graphics and (vector based) text rendering.
The bitmap handling, on the other hand, is extremely inefficient.

A  few years ago, I saw a case where a professional phototypesetter took
over 12 hours making one page with a detailed grayscale image...



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From: [e-mail]                                     28-Oct-99 13:41:20
  To: All                                               29-Oct-99 11:30:19
Subj: Re: New OS/2 device driver development

From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Bj=F8rn?= Vermo <[e-mail]>

Alan Beagley wrote:

> I thought that this OS/2 memory > 64MB setting was needed only for ancient
versions of
> OS/2:  2.1x or older.
>
> Warp 4 finds 128MB of RAM just fine on my Asus P2B-LS mobo.
>

The most common problem is that many motherboards will accomodate more memory
than the
chipset they use will actually support. BIOS changes will not help in those
cases.

Then there are those adapter makers who think "nobody will ever install more
than
16MB/64MB/2GB RAM, so we'll use an address range just there for our own
purposes".


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From: [e-mail]                                     28-Oct-99 14:16:16
  To: All                                               29-Oct-99 11:30:19
Subj: Re: OK, I must be getting spoiled <g> so let me ask for more ...

From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Bj=F8rn?= Vermo <[e-mail]>

"M.P. van Dobben de Bruijn" wrote:

>

...

> (as the import picture function of IBMWorks did not work on those) and
> that did not work. So it is a problem to "import" those TIF-pictures into my
> document this way, most likely because of an import-filter problem in IBM
> Works I guess.

There are a zillion different TIFF formats, and I doubt any single application
supports all of them. PMview seems to support a wider selection than most, and
can
often be used to translate the format. The weakest import filter support I
have
seen, is in Microsoft Publisher. I usually have to translate files which are
to be
used there.

There is an IBM EWS program which will read and process a lot of image
formats, and
which can run in batch mode if I remember right.


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From: [e-mail]                                     28-Oct-99 13:19:03
  To: All                                               29-Oct-99 11:30:19
Subj: Re: Tool to dissassemble desktop objects?

From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Bj=F8rn?= Vermo <[e-mail]>

[e-mail] wrote:

> I am a relative newcomer to OS/2 (software engineer). I am creating
> an installation CD for other developers which will copy various
> tools onto their already-configured OS/2 system (e.g. compilers,
> editors, etc) so that they can easily create a consistent
> development environment.
>

The best way to do this (and have an elegant way to maintain things
afterwards) is to use the CID mechanism. CID comes with OS/2, and can be
used  both to create a customized install of the OS and to install
software packages on a high number of different computers at the same
time. It takes some learning.

If all the computers are really identical, you can clone the master
system by backing up the desktop directory, ini-files and config.sys
with zip. Then, you boot the clone systems to a command prompt (Alt+F1
to interrupt boot, then select F2) and unzip the files. OS/2 zip (and
pkzip) will save the extended attributes of the desktop. Other
compression programs may not do this properly.


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From: [e-mail]                             28-Oct-99 20:54:20
  To: All                                               29-Oct-99 11:30:19
Subj: Re: Bootos2 options

From: "Doug Darrow" <[e-mail]>

On Tue, 26 Oct 1999 11:45:05 -0400, [e-mail] wrote:

>In the Bootos2 docs there is a long list of options.  But when I run Bootos2
I
>never get a chance to select any options.  It just takes off making a run.
What
>on earth is going on?
>
Huh? Those 'options' are descriptions of what the commandline switches
do.


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From: [e-mail]                           29-Oct-99 04:10:08
  To: All                                               29-Oct-99 11:30:19
Subj: Re: Simple networking question....

From: [e-mail] (Lorne Sunley)

On Fri, 29 Oct 1999 03:15:51, [e-mail] (Mark Mellin) wrote:

> To preface: I know only enough to be dangerous !!
>
> I'm looking to set up my Warp4 client with TCPIP 4.1
> as a "gateway" on a "cable modem'd" home lan.
>
> I wish to have access to printer resources, file
> systems, as well as sharing internet access between
> across OS/2, NT, and Win-9X.
>
> 1) Do I *need* PEER ??  (I've already tried
>    installing Peer from the Warp4 CD, and the
>    installs craps out with "processing locked
>    files - insufficient HDD space. - the HDD
>    boot partition has about 700Mb free...)
>
>    I don't want Peer, I don't like IBM's clunky
>    slapped-together utility approach to product
>    integration - hell -it's a batch file away
>    from the DOS based utility installs....

Yes you need to have "Peer" this is the set of software
that provides for disk and print sharing on OS/2. There must
be something causing the problem with "locked file update"
as it is used by almost all OS/2 software updates.

Peer is best installed when the OS is first installed as the
release version on the CD has a problem if any of
the config.sys lines are > 200 and something characters.

>
> 2) Can I use -or- do I *need* SafeFire or Injoy
>    Firewall to accomplish/meet my networks
>    objectives ??

You can/need to use these to have the gateway to the cable modem
done by the OS/2 machine.

>
> 3) Are there any traps or pitfalls I should be
>    aware of ??

The setup of the TCP/IP addressing for the use of
NAT is fairly picky, but the documentation provided
by the Injoy firewall has good examples and is
easy to follow.

>
> 4) Other than the obvious, is there any reason
>    I'd be better off using OS/2 Warp over NT
>    Workstation or Server as a gateway??

OS/2 is more stable and less likely to have problems
with "take over the machine and destroy it" attacks from
others lurking on the internet.

When you have NETBIOS and TCP/IP installed on
Windows XX machines, the act of "sharing" the disk drive
by default makes it available to ALL of the machines
connected to the internet. In order to protect your machines
and the data on them, the Windows XX machines should only
be on "your" side of the firewall.

You should also make sure that the disk sharing in
Windows is only bound to the NETBIOS protocol
not NETBIOS over TCP/IP (which is the default).

>
> 5) Why the heck couldn't I find any documentation
>    on the above :)
>

No Comment

Lorne Sunley


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From: [e-mail]....               29-Oct-99 04:13:13
  To: All                                               29-Oct-99 11:30:19
Subj: Re: New OS/2 device driver development

Message sender: [e-mail]

From: [e-mail] (Jim Nuytens)

On Thu, 28 Oct 1999 10:49:44, "Kim Cheung"
<[e-mail]> wrote:

> On 28 Oct 1999 13:34:47 GMT, Jim Nuytens wrote:
>
> >Next time, you might think a bit before you answer.
>
> Please, please, please.   Not this kind of talk again.    Just when these
> newsgroups are now rid of Tim Martin and Brad Wardell the Great,  and most
of
> the MVPs, let's bring some senity back to our discussion of OS/2.

Well, if you want to pick nits, then the word is sanity, not senity.

As for the talk, I consider my response quite mild considering I could
have told the man he was full of it, didn't know what he was talking
about, etc. I suggest you drop your sensitivity down a few notches,
Kim. You'll live longer.

As to Tim Martin; I never cared for him. Quite frankly, I found him to
be a crank.

Brad Wardell? Well, let's be upfront here. I find it strange that he
or anyone else would think that they can strike a deal with IBM on
developing a Warp 5 client when IBM would have to get permission from
Microsoft to release the parts of OS/2 that they (MS) still have
rights to.

I pose the following question: If IBM couldn't get permission to
license that code to 3rd parties, how would most of you feel about an
OS/2 client without HPFS and networking? Both HPFS and Lan Manager are
Microsoft's code, not IBM's.

Personally, I find all this talk about 3rd party efforts for a Warp 5
client to be highly suspect. Microsoft isn't about to help OS/2 in any
way, shape, or form by giving IBM permission to license that code.



"The bureaucratic mentality is the only constant in the universe."
Dr. McCoy to Kirk / Star Trek IV:The Voyage Home

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From: MtLavinia_nospam@nym._nospam.ali...               28-Oct-99 21:31:05
  To: All                                               29-Oct-99 11:30:19
Subj: Re: FP12 trap.  Pls help

Message sender: MtLavinia_nospam@nym._nospam.alias.net

From: "Lavinia" <MtLavinia_nospam@nym._nospam.alias.net>

Thanks, that did it.  Why would I not want to use PC with this FP?

L.

On Tue, 26 Oct 1999 23:39:39 -0400, Duane Chamblee wrote:

>I've seen this... I bet you didn't remove Process Commander before
>installing this fixpak.
>Try removing it and rerun FP12.
>
>You may be able to reinstall PC, but I suggest that you don't.


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From: [e-mail]                               29-Oct-99 00:28:26
  To: All                                               29-Oct-99 11:30:19
Subj: Re: Bootos2 options

From: [e-mail]

Psst...  borrowing from an old political line:  IT IS THE WAY THE BOOTOS2
INSTRUCTIONS ARE WRITTEN STUPID.

One thing that is wrong is that they imply that you put the words target,
source, etc. in the command line.  What the docs need are examples that
don't make an unknowing user guess -- and they do just that now.  When
Bootos2 doesn't run correctly, and there are failures, the user is left
thinking that he/she has made the error and there is nothing in the docs
that help.

Example the command bootos2 2disk=a works just fine a TP560 [FP 9] and
makes two boot disks.  -- The same command does not work on TP 600 [FP12].
It asks for two disk, but only writes files to one and thinks the process
is complete.

No where in the documentation is there anything that might explain this.
If I didn't have a second machine (the old TP560) to test with, I would
end up assuming that it  was me.

So where is the fault here with the TP 600?

And while I have the attention of all you guys, what is the Bootos2
command to make a 2 disk boot set from the copy of OS2 that is drive "D"?
-- Everything I've tried on three different machines always reports 'path
not found.'








>>>It's really hard for me to imagine you've been using OS/2 as
>>>long as you have and can't fathom that the options listed

>>As I said, I have stayed as far away from command line ANYTHING as
>>possible.  This is the first time, anywhere, I have seen command line
>>switches referred to as SYNTAX.  Maybe that is common as fleas on a dog
>>where you hang out, but it is the only place I've seen it.

>It is in fact used quite commonly.

>>This is the thing I hate about OS/2 the most.  The idea that you have to
>>think like a computer hacker to use it, and the idea that you're some
>>kind of freak if you don't.

>There is nothing here unique to OS/2 Jim.  Command line terminology is
>commonly used on a variety of platforms, included Win9x.  You just didn't
>"get it".  There is no shame in that.  Blaming OS/2 for your lack of
>experience with the command line doesn't make much sense.  Try this.
>Open an OS/2 window.  At the prompt type an OS/2 command that you want
>information on followed by a space, and /?. As an example:

>CHKDSK /?

>What will appear next is the syntax (and yes, the word syntax is used
>throughout the help system ;-> ), and a description of the various
>switches.  Do some experimentation, and it will become easy, and obvious
>to work with.

>Sander Nyman
_____________
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From: [e-mail]                    28-Oct-99 21:46:15
  To: All                                               29-Oct-99 11:30:19
Subj: Re: Warp 3 Connect and plug and play

From: "Graham C. Norris" <[e-mail]>

Warp 3 doesn't support PnP, which means that sometimes you get lucky and
sometimes you don't. Your BIOS should have a setting on the PnP setup
page for "PnP Aware OS Installed": try setting it to No if you haven't
already.

Graham.

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From: [e-mail]                    28-Oct-99 21:50:09
  To: All                                               29-Oct-99 11:30:19
Subj: Re: SIO and PCI I/O card

From: "Graham C. Norris" <[e-mail]>

One of the things SIO2K was supposed to do was work with PCI cards, but
development seems to have stopped and the author is unresponsive. You
might want to try it anyway, but I ran into an odd problem with it
installed: a partial wipeout of the partition it was installed on. This
happened three times, in each case shortly after I reinstalled it. It
didn't recur after I gave up trying to use it. Not conclusive evidence
of a defect in SIO2K of course, but take this as a warning to back your
system up before trying it!

Graham.

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From: [e-mail]                           29-Oct-99 00:54:19
  To: All                                               29-Oct-99 11:30:19
Subj: Re: MS .asf files on Linux?

From: "Mark L. Kahnt" <[e-mail]>

Jack Madison wrote:
>
> "Mark L. Kahnt" wrote:
> >
> <<<---SNIP--->>>
>
> > Shhhh, but NetShow (which was the previous ASF player) was available for
> > Linux for some time - I haven't touched it for quite some time because
> > all it ever did was shriek. In fact, that is all I've gotten from that
> > or Windows Media Player on any platform, try as I might to sort it out.
> > Add in that they do not have a release that will install on Windows NT
> > 3.51 (the 32 bit version requires NT 4 and some service pack, the 16 bit
> > version sees NT and tells you to use the 32 bit version. I installed the
> > 16 bit release under OS/2 and Win-OS2 and use that under NT 3.51 - still
> > all I get is the shriek...
> > --
> >
> <<<---SNIP--->>>
>
> I'd be happy to give the old NetShow for Linux a try if I could find
> it...  M$ web site doesn't have it any longer (I never saw it in the
> first place), and their promise to support UNIX seems half-hearted.  I
> have even installed Win98 on a second drive, but Win98 chokes on both my
> network card (which I can live without), and my Sound card (Creative
> Labs AudioPCI).  I was actually quite surprised when Win98 (including
> creative labs Win98 drivers) failed to use my soundcard after
> Linux/sndconfig just plain worked..
>
> Any other thoughts, suggestions, or pointers to the old NetShow for
> Linux program before I just give up for now?

It was what I got dumped to when I was looking for the Media Player. As
I said, for me, it wouldn't work, but the fact that it wouldn't work on
any o/s on this machine makes me suspect something in my configuration
was too difficult for it. Try the Downloads > Free Downloads > Windows
Additions (or names to that effect), and look for Windows Media Player,
and then in those pages, point to the UNIX platform information, iirc.
If they still offer it, it would be in there, otherwise they have
dropped it. I seem to recall that it ran fine with either libc5 or
glibc2, and possibly even a choice of a.out and ELF versions.
--

============================================================
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Voix:        [phone]   Cellulaire: [phone]
Telecopieur: [phone]   Email: [e-mail]

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From: [e-mail]                    28-Oct-99 21:56:10
  To: All                                               29-Oct-99 11:30:19
Subj: Re: Warp 4 - How do you change the computer name?

From: "Graham C. Norris" <[e-mail]>

The MPTN setup doesn't affect this. Try System Setup, Install/Remove,
Peer Installation and reconfigure the Peer setup. There are
unfortunately a whole horde of things which can make this not work, and
not all of them are solved. In my case it starts up and then closes
again without any popups or error messages at all.

Graham.

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From: [e-mail]                                      29-Oct-99 05:30:01
  To: All                                               29-Oct-99 11:30:19
Subj: warp3 fixpack 32 lock up

From: Leo Whiteway <[e-mail]>

I have a 586 with 28 megs ram and 3.2 gig HD. I run os2warp 3 HPFS and
also use part237.zip boot manager and Netscape 2.02XR. All runs very well.
I have been finding too many web sites that insist that I run a newer
version of Netscape. I read where I must run fixpack 32 to be able to
install Netscape 4.6. I downloaded all the fixpack 32 files and made the
disks. I installed it and all seemd to go just fine but when I finished
and tried to reboot into os2, the whole thing locked and showed a page of
things I must record and then ask IBM what to do. Of course I can't do
that anymore and I have since then reinstalled OS2 warp3 and Netscape
2.02XR. I am back where I started, Any ideas what I can try? I can't
afford to buy warp4 and I am stuck with this computer. Well, that's not
entirely true. I can change the CPU to a 486DX100 if you think there may
be a conflict because the AMD cpu is not completely compatible.
Thank you for any help you may be.
Leo (Bing) Whiteway

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From: [e-mail]                             29-Oct-99 05:28:22
  To: All                                               29-Oct-99 11:30:19
Subj: Re: Notes Mail 4.1

From: [e-mail] (Dominique Pivard)

On Fri, 29 Oct 1999 00:09:57, William Pridgen <[e-mail]>
wrote:

> I'm on the verge of re-installing Warp 4, after a long hiatus.  Does
> anyone use the Lotus Notes Mail that comes on a CD in the Warp 4 box?
> Is it any good?  Thanks in advance.

You'll have to get and install the stuff from
ftp://hobbes.nmsu.edu/pub/os2/apps/internet/notes if you want to use
Notes Mail with POP3/SMTP (to retrieve/send mail via your ISP)

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From: [e-mail]                      29-Oct-99 05:37:00
  To: All                                               29-Oct-99 11:30:19
Subj: Re: Wesb Boot

From: [e-mail]

In article <[e-mail]>,
  "Valheru" <[e-mail]> wrote:

> FYI, I moved to Florida from Canada and some disks got broken during
> the move so please don't make assumptions you know nothing about. I
> did not know that this wasn't a binary group, sorry for asking for
> files.

Hey, it's OK. I didn't mean to sound pissed! :) If you broke your CD,
then contact IBM. You can get a replacement disk if you mail in the
broken peices... (you may hae to pay for shipping) Just remember, your
license is for the *software*, and NOT the media on which it's written.

Good luck!

--
-Steven Hunter               *OS/2 Warp 4 * |
[e-mail] *AMD K6-2 400* |


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From: [e-mail]                        29-Oct-99 07:45:17
  To: All                                               29-Oct-99 11:30:19
Subj: Intel 740 AGP video card problem

From: [e-mail] (Bruce Ward)

I have Warp3 connect with FP40 and recently installed an I740 AGP
graphics card which comes with OS/2 drivers. There is one minor
problem which I believe others may have observed and may have a fix
for.

The problem is that after running a DOS Window, some OS/2 windows (not
all) lose the pointer - it just becomes invisible when moved over the
window. It happens to the Win-OS/2 windows too.

I'm not totally sure that I've tied down the symptoms properly (after
all I'm not getting it to happen right now when testing! :-( ), but
that's seems to be about the gist of it. Anyone soved the
"disappearing pointer" before?

Bruce Ward  (bmward at attglobal dot net)

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From: [e-mail]                29-Oct-99 09:40:14
  To: All                                               29-Oct-99 11:30:19
Subj: Motherboard Memory recognition > 64MB

From: Wim Wauters <[e-mail]>


Alan Beagley wrote:

> I thought that this OS/2 memory > 64MB setting was needed only for ancient
versions of
> OS/2:  2.1x or older.

Agreed.

> Warp 4 finds 128MB of RAM just fine on my Asus P2B-LS mobo.
>
> Alan

Thanks for the info. I hope you don't mind me adding your MoBo to the
'comp.os.os2.setup.misc/motherboard  Memory recognition > 64MB' thread.

> "David T. Johnson" wrote:
>
> > Well, the driver situation isn't great but, IMO, it isn't terrible
> > either.  The single biggest driver issue right now for OS/2 is getting
> > motherboard BIOSs that will allow OS/2 to find more than 64 MB of DRAM.
> > Many of the BIOS versions have an OS/2 memory > 64MB option but it often
> > does not work properly.  And yes, this isn't really a 'driver' issue but
> > it is important.

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From: [e-mail]                29-Oct-99 09:44:07
  To: All                                               29-Oct-99 11:30:19
Subj: Re: New OS/2 device driver development

From: Wim Wauters <[e-mail]>


Bob Germer wrote:

> Well, I don't know why you have such problems. I have >64 Megs on at least
> 2 dozen different motherboards either in my own shop or on clients'
> machines. We have no-name boards, Intel, Tyan, ASUS, Premio, and other
> motherboards in the mix, all of which recognize more than 64 Megs.

Splendid ! Do they have SIMM slots or are they DIMM only (to give me an idea
of how old your
boards (are)?
What type are they (super7, SlotA, Slot1/2/3/...,socket370) ?

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From: [e-mail]                       29-Oct-99 11:08:21
  To: All                                               29-Oct-99 11:30:19
Subj: Re: Networking 2 home computers...

From: Sigurd Urdahl <[e-mail]>

[cleaned up the quoting a bit]

[e-mail] (Jerry McBride) writes:
> In article <[e-mail]>,
> "Michael Guyear" <[e-mail]> wrote:
> > On Thu, 28 Oct 1999 06:56:06 -0400, Jerry McBride wrote:
> > > Anyone here done a 2 computer network with fibre? I'm saving up the
> > > computer
> > > budget money to do just that and I'm interested in anything you have to
> > > comment
> > > on this subject.

> >Way over priced. I did this once in the lab just for fun, only 10 MBS
> >though. It's no faster than 10MB TP (of course) and way more expensive for
> >the fiber interfaces. Only reason I could see for this is in long distance
> >runs or very noisy environments.
> >
>
> Yes, noise is a concern as we run a couple of welders in the work place...
>
> :')
>
> But no faster than 10baseT?

10 Mbits per sec is quite the same amount of data on coax, 10baseT or
fibre. _But_ fibre is capable of moving a lot more than 10 Mbits if you have
NICs
that will give you higher speeds (100 Mbits or even Gbits).

-sig


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From: [e-mail]                           29-Oct-99 05:44:19
  To: All                                               29-Oct-99 14:46:21
Subj: Styler/2 AKA SmartWindows Increases Performace?

From: Robert Dohrenburg <[e-mail]>

Hi,

I just installed Styler/2 AKA SmartWindows in two computers.

The strange thing is that in both computers' the CPU meter show less
spikes and the spikes are shorter. Overall I feel that both computers
are more responsive in terms of screen drawings of window elements.

Is it possible that this program/utility is replacing bloated parts of
the OS? I remember OD1.X and OD2.0 did the contrary and my system lost
performance.

Can anyone can confirm this?

Robert,

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From: [e-mail]                         29-Oct-99 11:29:28
  To: All                                               29-Oct-99 14:46:21
Subj: Re: Warp Server not able to get available memory

From: [e-mail]

James-
   We didn't get very scientific about it (for example, we didn't take
the time to look at bufferpool stats in the monitors).  But we didn't
need to: performance fell through the floor when we increased the
bufferpools over the 'threshold'.  In every other case, available
memory dropped when we started and connected to the db and performance
was good and consistent.  If we exceeded the threshold, available
memory didn't drop and performance was horrible.

So it appears that we exceeded some 220 MB barrier that causes DB2 not
to get the memory (even with > 450 MB available), write error messages
to db2diag.log ('The memory for bufferpool and estore cannot be
allocated'), and revert back to extremely low default bufferpool
sizes.  It appears that this occurs when the combined total of all
bufferpools plus dbheap exceeds 220 MB (not just a single bp > 220 MB),
but again, we haven't taken the time to get too scientific about that.

The DB2 support rep is looking through our traces now.  Folks have said
that DB2 should be able to work around this 220 MB-per-allocation
limit, so maybe it's something else.  I'll post what comes out of it.

I suppose I should ask: Has anyone been able to allocate and use
bufferpools larger than 220 MB (>55,000 pages) under OS/2 Warp?

Derek Williams

In article <[e-mail]>,
  James Moe <[e-mail]> wrote:
>
>
> [e-mail] wrote:
> >
> > Thanks, Scott and Lorne.  We have an OS/2 guru of sorts who helped
us
> > configure HPFS386 to use an optimal cache size.
> >
> > But the problem isn't that we're running out of available memory -
it's
> > that DB2 isn't using it.  Memstat is sitting there telling us we
have
> > 429 MB of available RAM (after DB2 startup, HPFS cache allocation,
> > etc), but we take the same configuration and ask for a total of
50,000
> > pages (200 MB) of bufferpool and we don't get it.  If we run this
> > configuration under Warp workstation, it works just fine.
> >
> > It's like Warp Server is limiting the amount of memory it'll give to
> > running programs.
> >
>     Are you sure that the memory is not being used? That is, have doen
> stuff with DB2 that demands the amount of memory allocated?
>     It may be that the memory is made available to DB2 but not
committed
> until it is actually needed.
>
> --
>
> sma at rtd dot com
> Remove ".spam-not" for email
>


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From: [e-mail]                                     29-Oct-99 06:13:08
  To: All                                               29-Oct-99 14:46:21
Subj: Re: My big mouth.

From: Michael W. Cocke <[e-mail]>

On Thu, 28 Oct 1999 10:33:32 -0400, [e-mail] wrote:

>Michael W. Cocke <[e-mail]> said:
>
>>>I just got a note from http://computergeek.com that they have fixed their
sales
>
>>I decided to take a look, and all I got at that url was a screen saying  to
>>check back in august.  (August!?)
>
>I'm terribly sorry about that.  My mistake.  There should be an "s" on GEEK.
>The URL is:
>
>http://computergeeks.com/
>
>Jim L
>Remove XX from address to Email
>Crooks and kooks will get guns regardless of laws.
>

AH.  Found it, thanks!



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From: [e-mail]                                     29-Oct-99 07:21:09
  To: All                                               29-Oct-99 14:46:21
Subj: Re: Warp 4 - How do you change the computer name?

From: Michael W. Cocke <[e-mail]>

On Thu, 28 Oct 1999 22:54:29 -0400, Don Thimsen wrote:

>Bob,
>
>>>I suspect he wanted the OTHER one - used by Peer.<<
>
>You're right.  This OS/2 system doesn't have TCP/IP installed -
>NetBEUI and 802.2 only.
>
>I did scan the system for all occurances of CLIENT012,
>and believe I found and changed the IBMLAN.INI file
>as well as several others.  However, after a boot a
>NET STATUS command still shows "SERVER" name
>as CLIENT012.  And other peers still connect to the
>machine as \\CLIENT012\...
>
>I'm not at work at the moment, so I can't play.  But
>does Warp 4 require something besides changing
>the name in the INI file?  Maybe change a parameter
>somewhere in MPTS to force a rebuild? I did this once
>several years ago, and it seemed easy on Warp 3.
>
>Thanks,
>Don
>
>
>
>Bob Eager wrote in message <176uZD2KcidF-pn2-MW0WBGj74dII@rikki>...
>>On Thu, 28 Oct 1999 14:39:39, [e-mail] (Stewart
>>Honsberger) wrote:
>>
>>> On Thu, 28 Oct 1999 10:28:43 -0400, Don Thimsen wrote:
>>> >When Warp 4 installs, a generated name is assigned
>>> >to the machine (i.e., CLIENT012).  Is there a way to change this
>>> >name???
>>>
>>> Change the HOSTNAME env. variable in your config.sys.
>>>
>>> Mine reads;
>>>
>>> SET HOSTNAME=BLACKDEATH
>>
>>Not quite. That one is the TCP/IP hostname, and doesn't get assigned
>>automatically. I suspect he wanted the OTHER one - used by Peer.
>>
>>Edit \IBMLAN\IBMLAN.INI; change the COMPUTERNAME= line (quite a long
>>way down; line 172 on mine)
>>
>>--
>>Bob Eager
>>rde at tavi.co.uk
>>PC Server 325; PS/2s 8595*3, 9595*3 (2*P60 + P90), 8535, 8570, 9556*2,
>>8580*6,
>>8557*2, 8550, 9577, 8530, P70, PC/AT..
>

To change the peer name, the only thing that needs to be changed (for
warp 3 or 4 peer)is the computername= line in \ibmlan\ibmlan.ini.  I've
done it dozens of times at work.  You may need to net stop req and
restart it for the change to take effect.

One loud word of warning that I had to learn the hard way - do NOT do
this on WSeB!



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From: [e-mail]                                     29-Oct-99 07:34:00
  To: All                                               29-Oct-99 14:46:21
Subj: Re: Simple networking question....

From: Michael W. Cocke <[e-mail]>

On Fri, 29 Oct 1999 03:15:51 GMT, Mark Mellin wrote:

>To preface: I know only enough to be dangerous !!
>
>I'm looking to set up my Warp4 client with TCPIP 4.1
>as a "gateway" on a "cable modem'd" home lan.
>
>I wish to have access to printer resources, file
>systems, as well as sharing internet access between
>across OS/2, NT, and Win-9X.
>
>1) Do I *need* PEER ??  (I've already tried
>   installing Peer from the Warp4 CD, and the
>   installs craps out with "processing locked
>   files - insufficient HDD space. - the HDD
>   boot partition has about 700Mb free...)
>
>   I don't want Peer, I don't like IBM's clunky
>   slapped-together utility approach to product
>   integration - hell -it's a batch file away
>   from the DOS based utility installs....

It's technically possible to share drives & printers without using peer,
but you won't like it, and you probably won't be able to make it
work - lpr and nfs are the keywords to look for if you want to see what
I mean.   I'd correct your problem with peer and use that, if I were
you.

>
>2) Can I use -or- do I *need* SafeFire or Injoy
>   Firewall to accomplish/meet my networks
>   objectives ??

Yes, on the gateway machine - the one with 2 network cards in it.  I
looked (briefly) at SafeFire, then ordered the Injoy SOHO edition.
Being familiar with Injoy support from the dialer software, it was a
no-brainer to stick with Injoy. (that was a compliment to injoy, if it
wasn't clear).

>
>3) Are there any traps or pitfalls I should be
>   aware of ??

Go thru the security configuration THROUGHLY - don't accept defaults
unless you understand EXACTLY what you're doing.


>4) Other than the obvious, is there any reason
>   I'd be better off using OS/2 Warp over NT
>   Workstation or Server as a gateway??

OS/2 is more secure and more robust.  Take a look thru zdnet and
dejanews for keywords "windows and security".  You couldn't pay me to
use a windows machine for a firewall.

>5) Why the heck couldn't I find any documentation
>   on the above :)

You were looking in the wrong places, apparently.  There's a ton of
useful info in the injoy manual, the tcp/ip redbooks, "OS/2 Warp
Administrators Survival Guide", and comp.os.os2/networking.*


>
>
>Thanks in advance for any help.
>Mark Mellin
>
>
>
>
>

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From: [e-mail]                                      29-Oct-99 08:10:16
  To: All                                               29-Oct-99 14:46:21
Subj: GA-71X and Warp Memory Detection

From: "Frank Field" <[e-mail]>

I've been casting around for ideas/strategies; I've got one of the new
Athlon boards (the Gigabyte 71X) and, although OS/2 installs just
swimmingly, it only detects a little over 64 megabaytes of the
256 megabytes installed.  Toggling the "Memory above 64 megs" flag
in the BIOS to "OS2" makes things worse; then only 16 megs are
found.

This does *NOT* seem to be restricted to the Gigabyte; I have gotten
e-mails from people with Biostar and Soyo boards who also cite this,
and there are usenet posts suggesting that it happens on MSI and FIC
boards too - one of which uses the AMI BIOS instead of the Award.

I've posted e-mails to AMD and Gigabyte, to no avail (or, at least, with
no response).  I even posted a PROBLEM.TXT to IBM.  Award makes
it hard to contact them at all; they point you back to your board/system
vendor.  Anyone got any other ideas about how I might proceed in trying
to get this resolved?  Note that, this morning, I got a post from someone
claiming that this is also a problem with NT4 SP5, but I can't confirm
that yet.  I can say that it is *NOT* a problem for Win95/98).

Ideas, anyone???


Frank Field
[e-mail]
O-


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From: [e-mail]                                29-Oct-99 08:50:03
  To: All                                               29-Oct-99 14:46:22
Subj: Strage IP address?

From: Sushenjit Bandyopadhyay <[e-mail]>

I have just installed Warp 4 (with FP 12).  I have a dialup connection
to the internet using DOIP.  After running for a few days the
(connecting and disconnecting as needed) the internet access stops
working.  I don't know much about TCPIP, but this is what I get, when
I do netstat \a.

[E:\]netstat -a
addr            0.0.0.0 interface 10 mask 0  broadcast
0.0.0.0
addr         128.8.22.5 interface 10 mask ffff0000  broadcast
128.8.3.101

addr          127.0.0.1 interface 0 mask ff000000  broadcast 127.0.0.1


When the system works I get:

[E:\]netstat -a
addr         128.8.22.5 interface 10 mask ffff0000  broadcast
128.8.3.101

addr          127.0.0.1 interface 0 mask ff000000  broadcast 127.0.0.1

So what is adding the 0.0.0.0 IP? And how do I stop this?

Thanks.

Sushenjit



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From: [e-mail]                                    29-Oct-99 13:20:25
  To: All                                               29-Oct-99 14:46:22
Subj: Re: Warp 4 - How do you change the computer name?

From: [e-mail] (Bob Eager)

On Fri, 29 Oct 1999 02:31:10, "Graham C. Norris"
<[e-mail]> wrote:

> > Edit \IBMLAN\IBMLAN.INI; change the COMPUTERNAME= line (quite a long
> > way down; line 172 on mine)
>
> It's probably a good idea to change both of them to the same thing. Not
> essential, but less confusing! (OTOH it may be essential if you've
> configured NetBIOS over TCP/IP to talk to Winthing, but I'm not sertain
> on that score.)

Sorry, I should have made it clearer. I did mean that...otherwise as
you say there is scope for endless confusion.

I have enough trouble with one person (my mother) calling me Robert...

--
Bob Eager
rde at tavi.co.uk
PC Server 325; PS/2s 8595*3, 9595*3 (2*P60 + P90), 8535, 8570, 9556*2,
8580*6,
8557*2, 8550, 9577, 8530, P70, PC/AT..

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From: [e-mail]                         29-Oct-99 14:01:26
  To: All                                               29-Oct-99 14:46:22
Subj: deleting os2?

From: [e-mail] (chary)

This question is about deleting some files which apparently are os2 (archive?
drivers?) on a four year old IBM pc. Hopefully somebody here will be able to
help out, since I didn't get any replies on the IBM pc group.

There is a directory named C:\Diskettes. I'm wondering if it can be safely
deleted. The folder is 103 megs, and it contains the subfolder Os2V3, with ~34
megs. These files came with the system. Files are dated 1995. Os2 never will
be
used. This is an IBM Personal Computer 350-P133, MT6586-7uo, purchased 12/95.

The folder is visible from Windows Explorer, I'd like to just delete it from
there. Windows is the os that is being used. AFAIK, the drive is not
partitioned, and Os2 was never actually installed (the computer isn't mine,
it's
a friend's, and I haven't personally seen it).

Thanks for any help.

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From: [e-mail]                               29-Oct-99 16:25:02
  To: All                                               29-Oct-99 19:49:03
Subj: ThinkPad 755CD CDrom, HOW???

From: [e-mail] (ALDEL)

Had Win95 + OS/2 Ver3 Red on my IBM Thinkpad 755CD
with Floppy drive and IBM Cdrom working fine.
Somehow lost the cdrom and Modem trying to
install Ver 4. (had to reinstall)
Had to reinstall Windows 3.1 because I have the disks
and os2 ver3. Managed to get the modem pcmia back
working: but cannot get the cd-rom back.
The cd rom is an IBM teac.
I tried atapi drivers, msdex, and a  couple others,
No good.
Help really appreciated.
Albert.
It took me 82 years to get this dumb, ;-(

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From: [e-mail]                         29-Oct-99 20:20:04
  To: All                                               29-Oct-99 19:49:03
Subj: Re: deleting os2?

From: "Dave {Reply Address in.sig}" <[e-mail]>

On Fri, 29 Oct 1999 14:01:53 GMT, chary wrote:

>This question is about deleting some files which apparently are os2 (archive?
>drivers?) on a four year old IBM pc. Hopefully somebody here will be able to
>help out, since I didn't get any replies on the IBM pc group.
>
A useful trick is to go and rename the files/directory. If something
breaks you can go rename them back again, if not, you can delete them.

Note that this trick won't always work on an OS/2 system because
various parts of the OS manage to spot that you've renamed a file and
update icon properties to continue pointing to the renamed file...


Dave
--
mail dav [e-mail]
http://www.llondel.demon.co.uk
Give blood... Play Rugby!


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From: [e-mail]                              29-Oct-99 20:56:22
  To: All                                               29-Oct-99 19:49:03
Subj: Re: Simple networking question....

From: [e-mail]

In <[e-mail]>,
[e-mail] (Mark Mellin) writes:
>To preface: I know only enough to be dangerous !!
>
>1) Do I *need* PEER ??  (I've already tried
>   installing Peer from the Warp4 CD, and the
>   installs craps out with "processing locked
>   files - insufficient HDD space. - the HDD
>   boot partition has about 700Mb free...)

Make sure the the first line in your config.sys is for the
hpfs driver.

Keith Cotroneo
[e-mail]

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From: [e-mail]                              29-Oct-99 20:59:12
  To: All                                               29-Oct-99 19:49:03
Subj: Re: Simple networking question....

From: [e-mail]

In <[e-mail]>,
[e-mail] (Mark Mellin) writes:
>To preface: I know only enough to be dangerous !!

>
>2) Can I use -or- do I *need* SafeFire or Injoy
>   Firewall to accomplish/meet my networks
>   objectives ??

I use safefire. It has been rock solid without even 1 hicup since
I installed it (five months).

Keith Cotroneo
[e-mail]

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From: [e-mail]                         29-Oct-99 17:58:25
  To: All                                               29-Oct-99 19:49:03
Subj: internet security and warp4

From: "Daniel Enright" <[e-mail]>

Hey,
    I was wondering, I have warp4 client, and fixpack 11, is there any
other upgrades I should be doing for internet security. (note: I use dial
other internet providers application.)   Such as in win9x crap dial up
networking you have to do dial up networking upgrades or someone will take
over your computer type thing(coming from my <shudder> tech support days).
Is there any security patches for os/2?
    Is there any daemons or anything which are loaded with the os/2 warp
4 client which should be disabled?  Such as in the linux world where you have
to disable all that extra stuff (such as a telnet server).
    And finally is there any extra software (freeware preferably open
source) which is a recommened add on for home users who are paranoid.

Cheers,
Daniel


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From: [e-mail]                                     29-Oct-99 23:48:17
  To: All                                               29-Oct-99 21:24:01
Subj: Re: Styler/2 AKA SmartWindows Increases Performace?

From: [e-mail] (Don Morse)

In message <7vcqn7$j2j$[e-mail]> - [e-mail]
(John Hong) writes:
:>
:>Robert Dohrenburg ([e-mail]) wrote:
:>
:>: Is it possible that this program/utility is replacing bloated parts of
:>: the OS? I remember OD1.X and OD2.0 did the contrary and my system lost
:>: performance.
:>
:>    I don't think it does, I didn't see anything getting copied into
:>the X:\OS2\*.* directories when I tried it out...
:>
:>

actually, there is a smartwin.dll that gets copied to the
X:\OS2\DLL directory.

I don't know if this could account for the performance gained



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From: [e-mail]                          29-Oct-99 22:10:04
  To: All                                               29-Oct-99 21:24:01
Subj: Re: Warp Server not able to get available memory

From: [e-mail] (Ilya Zakharevich)

[A complimentary Cc of this posting was sent to
<[e-mail]>],
who wrote in article <7vc0fj$ht7$[e-mail]>:
> The DB2 support rep is looking through our traces now.  Folks have said
> that DB2 should be able to work around this 220 MB-per-allocation
> limit, so maybe it's something else.  I'll post what comes out of it.

There is no "220 MB-per-allocation" limit.  There is a limit for how
much virtual memory an application [*] can see: 512M.  A lot of these
512M are reserved for shared areas, DLL areas etc.  What remains is
somewhat like 220M of virtual memory (this digit is a result of
experiments) available for application-requested memory.

*No workaround* is possible.

[*] Warp 4.5 is reported to be different.

Enjoy,
Ilya

P.S.  I repeat that this is *virtual memory*.  My first experiments
      were done on a laptop with 16M of memory and 32M of swap.  I
      could *assign* (without *touching*) myself 220M of virtual
      memory (due to overcommitment), but no more.

      So I repeat: it has nothing to do with how much "free" memory do
      you have.

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From: [e-mail]                                 29-Oct-99 22:26:18
  To: All                                               29-Oct-99 21:24:01
Subj: Re: Warp 3 Connect and plug and play

From: Peter Jespersen <[e-mail]>

Bill Redifer wrote:
>
> What about Warp 4? (PnP support)
> Graham C. Norris <[e-mail]> wrote in message
> news:[e-mail]...
> > Warp 3 doesn't support PnP, which means that sometimes you get lucky and
> > sometimes you don't. Your BIOS should have a setting on the PnP setup
> > page for "PnP Aware OS Installed": try setting it to No if you haven't
> > already.

There are some pnp-support in Warp4

you can set Warp4 to

The hardware detection modes in Warp4 are:

No hardware detection
Use previous detection
Detect removed hardware
Detect added hardware
Full hardware detection

And you are able to set default detection mode and the detection
mode the system will use the nect time.

* The ISA Win95-PnP cards is virtually useless, in non Win9x
operating systems!
* Installing drivers manually is no problem in Warp4, unlike in
Win9x (Win9x is a real smartarse)!

--

Live long and prosper...
_________________________________________________________________
 Peter Jespersen, Team OS/2 Denmark
 [e-mail]
 http://www.image.dk/~flywheel/
 Consciousness: that annoying time between naps.

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From: [e-mail]                               29-Oct-99 18:30:09
  To: All                                               29-Oct-99 21:24:01
Subj: Re: deleting os2?

From: "/2 User" <[e-mail]>

>On Fri, 29 Oct 1999 14:01:53 GMT, chary wrote:
>
>>This question is about deleting some files which apparently are os2
(archive?
>>drivers?) on a four year old IBM pc. Hopefully somebody here will be able to
>>help out, since I didn't get any replies on the IBM pc group.
>>

Maybe you should get your friend to install it first, he may have never seen
the power of OS/2?


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