comp.os.os2.misc (Usenet) Saturday, 23-Oct-1999 to Friday, 29-Oct-1999 +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: meson2000@my-deja.com 22-Oct-99 16:15:04 To: All 23-Oct-99 04:42:00 Subj: 2 questions..... From: meson2000@my-deja.com 1) Does the java version of ICQ run under OS/2???? If not, is there a version of ICQ that I can get to run under OS/2??? 2) I have a Promise Ultra66 IDE controller card and Ultra66 hard drive running under windows98. I am switching back to OS/2. I checked the promise web page and they don't have an OS/2 driver yet. Has anyone heard anything about when (or if) there is going to be a driver released?? Or is there any other 3rd party driver that I might be able to use instead?? I have emailed promise but they have not gotten back to me yet. TIA Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy. --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Deja.com - Before you buy. (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: kimwaicSpamGoToGarbage@deltanet.com 22-Oct-99 09:48:26 To: All 23-Oct-99 04:42:01 Subj: Re: I can no longer live with OS/2 From: "Kim Cheung" On Fri, 22 Oct 1999 07:00:01 GMT, cbzh@my-deja.com wrote: >NS461 doesn't seem to >be changed, but just less crash prone and thus the negative sides of the >strange design do not show up and the program is really useable No. I believe 4.61 has a very different design when compared to 4.04. I was told that they did it one way and found that it really didn't work and this time they did it "differently". I don't know the detail, however, but the effect shows. 4.61 (beta) is quite stable - whereas 4.04 really wasn't. --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: TouchVoice Corporation (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: kimwaicSpamGoToGarbage@deltanet.com 22-Oct-99 09:50:14 To: All 23-Oct-99 04:42:01 Subj: Re: 2ND UPDATE [Re: I can no longer live with OS/2 From: "Kim Cheung" On Fri, 22 Oct 1999 00:50:59 -0400, Dale Erwin wrote: >I backed up my config.sys file then eliminated all references to >IBMCOBOL in the file and re-booted and VIOLA. But now I am without my livelihood >tool. If it's only libpath that's affected, you can set up a CMD file to utilize the BEGINPATH and ENDPATH facility to do that. VC 4.0 does that to assure that dlls don't get crobbled. --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: TouchVoice Corporation (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: News@The-Net-4U.com 22-Oct-99 16:48:27 To: All 23-Oct-99 04:42:01 Subj: OK, I must be getting spoiled so let me ask for more ... From: News@The-Net-4U.com (M.P. van Dobben de Bruijn) Working on a document in IBMWorks I had some problem reading in some scanned bigger TIF-files as a picture to import. So I decided to take the other route and push those files into the clipboard first from an appli- cation where I could open them, switch to IBMWorks and paste them onto the desired location from the clipboard then. Of course the way to open those files in this beauty OS with great elegance was to right-click on their icon and select the desired application from the menu popping-up. OS/2 is a joy to work with everyday. But then I suddenly realized that perhaps some faster / easier and less-clicks route could exist or be created. Isn't there a facility in Warp (or an utility if it must be) that allows me to right-click on a files icon and then simply select the option to put the contents into the clipboard without the need to open an app first? Regards from Leeuwarden Peter van Dobben de Bruijn --- usethenet.at.the-net-4u.com (.at. becomes @) ---- --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: TeleKabel (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: News@The-Net-4U.com 22-Oct-99 16:48:27 To: All 23-Oct-99 04:42:01 Subj: Re: I can no longer live with OS/2 From: News@The-Net-4U.com (M.P. van Dobben de Bruijn) > [...] >> When I bought this computer (AMD K6-2 400, 256MB RAM, 8.2GB HDD, 1.5GB >> SyJet Cartridge Drive) from Indelible Blue almost a year ago, it came >> with Warp 4 pre-installed and had Netscape Communicator 4.04 installed. >> NC404 worked just fine for about 6 weeks and one day just refused to >> function properly. I consistently got an error message saying that >>"whatever" server could not be found, there is no DNS entry. I have > this seems to be a configuration problem of the "dial other internet > providers", here I think the domain server address is not correct. Would the "consistenly" not being able to find an DNS-entry for whatever server not point to a problem with the configuration of the lookup-DNS-servers? Sounds like a problem with that changed on this box or at the ISP. If I would have to look I would look there first. Regards from Leeuwarden Peter van Dobben de Bruijn --- usethenet.at.the-net-4u.com (.at. becomes @) ---- --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: TeleKabel (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: jeffr@warsawcoil.com 22-Oct-99 11:37:07 To: All 23-Oct-99 04:42:01 Subj: Re: 2 questions..... From: "Jeff D. Roesner" wrote in message news:7uq2i8$3t7$1@nnrp1.deja.com... > 1) Does the java version of ICQ run under > OS/2???? If not, is there a version of ICQ > that I can get to run under OS/2??? Yes. It works fine even on my 486, albeit very slow. Much nicer on my new Solaris box... --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: KC Online - HoosierLink (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: bobg.REMOVEME.@pics.com 22-Oct-99 12:51:19 To: All 23-Oct-99 04:42:01 Subj: Re: Modems (again?) From: Bob Germer On , on 10/22/99 at 02:19 PM, piquant00@uswestmail.net (Annie K.) said: > :if it says on the box that it works with DOS, Win 95, 98, NT > :and Macintosh does that mean it's a real modem and will > :also work with OS/2? > Yes. Bad answer. The answer should be maybe. Not all external modems are true modems. Some external modems are USB, not serial port. -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------- Bob Germer from Mount Holly, NJ - E-mail: bobg@Pics.com Proudly running OS/2 Warp 4.0 w/ FixPack 12 MR/2 Ice Registration Number 67 Aut Pax Aut Bellum ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------- --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Origin Line 1 Goes Here (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: derwin@airmail.net 22-Oct-99 12:28:03 To: All 23-Oct-99 04:42:01 Subj: Now that I have Netscape 4.61 From: Dale Erwin This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------835C69E561A335A1B81939D4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Is it possible to import my address book and bookmarks from ver 2.02? -- Dale Erwin Dallas, Texas --------------835C69E561A335A1B81939D4 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=us-ascii; name="derwin.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: Card for Dale Erwin Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="derwin.vcf" begin:vcard n:Erwin;Dale tel;cell:(214)893-8738 tel;fax:(214)956-0982 tel;home:(214)893-8738 tel;work:(214)956-0887 x-mozilla-html:FALSE url:www.geocities.com/dale_ewin/ org:Erwin Technology Corporation adr:;;3624 Coral Gables Dr.;Dallas;Texas;75229-2619;USA version:2.1 email;internet:derwin@airmail.net title:President fn:Dale Erwin end:vcard --------------835C69E561A335A1B81939D4-- --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Erwin Technology Corporation (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: bvermo@powertech.no 22-Oct-99 15:28:25 To: All 23-Oct-99 04:42:01 Subj: Re: Sending Binary Files via sendmail? From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Bj=F8rn?= Vermo bosmith wrote: > I am running Warp v3.0 with the IBM TCPIP stack. I use sendmail to > email text reports to users and it works quite well. I now have a need > to send a binary file (an Excel spreadsheet) and find that sendmail > won't deliver it properly. > Is it sendmail, or is it something onyour tranfer path? You must have the proper MIME-headers in order to send binary data, otherwise the default is US-ASCII and you risk that some software in your transmission path just strips off the eighth bit. Try to include the headers Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: application/x-excel Content-Transfer-Encoding: binary and see how that works. If the receiver is not able to save or view that properly, you may need to prosess it as an included file. There are programs available which will convert a file to a MIME base 64 encoded attachment. Look at hobbes for things called something with MIME or Base 64 in the name. The description will tell you which one you should take a closer look at. There is also the old UU encoding. It works most of the time, but is not entirely safe. Besides, it is obsolete and not the currently recognized standard. --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Norbionics (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: bvermo@powertech.no 22-Oct-99 15:53:08 To: All 23-Oct-99 04:42:01 Subj: Re: Floppy problems From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Bj=F8rn?= Vermo lifedata@xxvol.com wrote: > Dale Erwin said: > > > As my post said, I've tried half a dozen different floppy drives om two > different machines. What is this track 0 thing? > It is the only track where there cannot be any faults at all if the diskette shall be useable. You ARE trying to format a HD diskette to 1.44MB, right? I have seen many diskette drives which did not find out that the diskette was not HD, even though the HD hole was missing. The error message is typical when you try to format a 720kB diskette to 1.44. Or is it one of the rare 2.88 diskettes? They have different magnetic characteristics, and might give the same symptom in a 1.44 drive. --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Norbionics (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: drider_trans@my-deja.com 22-Oct-99 17:31:25 To: All 23-Oct-99 04:42:01 Subj: Change font in MS Mail on OS/2 Warp 4 From: drider_trans@my-deja.com I need a PROVEN solution to changing the font in Win3x applications, such as MS Mail 3.5 and FileManager, so my users can see larger size text in extreme resolutions,such as 1280 x something-or-other. We have in our system.ini (c:\os2\mdos\winos2\): fonts.fon=vgasys.fon fixedfon.fon=vgafix.fon oemfonts.fon=vgaoem.fon I tried changing these settings, but then the programs wouldn't start. These are the only fon files in the system folder (c:\os2\mdos\winos2\system\): arialb coure dialog modern msmail3 roman script serife smalle sserife symbole timesb vga850 vga860 vga861 vga863 vga865 vgafix vgaoem vgasys Tried adding SystemFont= in win.ini and succeeded in changing the font for the title bar and menu, not the displayed messages or files/folders. Control Panel does not have any applets that I can determine will do anything for me. Please help me help my users. Thanks. Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy. --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Deja.com - Before you buy. (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: jvarela@mind-spring.com 22-Oct-99 18:58:19 To: All 23-Oct-99 04:42:01 Subj: Re: OK, I must be getting spoiled so let me ask for more ... From: jvarela@mind-spring.com (John Varela) On Fri, 22 Oct 1999 16:48:55, News@The-Net-4U.com (M.P. van Dobben de Bruijn) wrote: > Isn't there a facility in Warp (or an utility if it must be) that allows me > to right-click on a files icon and then simply select the option to put > the contents into the clipboard without the need to open an app first? Pickup followed by Dump. -- John Varela to e-mail, remove - between mind and spring --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: MindSpring Enterprises (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: djohnson@isomedia.com 22-Oct-99 12:11:21 To: All 23-Oct-99 04:42:01 Subj: Re: Now that I have Netscape 4.61 From: "David T. Johnson" Dale Erwin wrote: > > Is it possible to import my address book and bookmarks from ver 2.02? > -- I think that the 4.x install does this automatically. But, if it doesn't, just copy address.htm and bookmark.htm from your netscape v2.02 directory to the new directory for 4.x which will be something like X:\netscape\users\irwin. --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: piquant00@uswestmail.net 22-Oct-99 19:35:16 To: All 23-Oct-99 04:42:01 Subj: Re: Latest version of os2??!! From: piquant00@uswestmail.net (Annie K.) On Fri, 22 Oct 1999 11:46:29, "Grunt" wrote: :I am interested in finding out which is the latest version of OS2 :Warp!!!!????? v4. -- Klaatu barada nikto --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Team OS/2 (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: jdc0014@InfoNET.st-johns.nf.ca 22-Oct-99 19:43:20 To: All 23-Oct-99 04:42:01 Subj: Re: 2 questions..... From: jdc0014@InfoNET.st-johns.nf.ca (John Hong) meson2000@my-deja.com wrote: : 2) I have a Promise Ultra66 IDE controller card : and Ultra66 hard drive running under windows98. I am switching : back to OS/2. I checked the promise web page and : they don't have an OS/2 driver yet. Has anyone heard : anything about when (or if) there is going to be : a driver released?? Or is there any other 3rd party : driver that I might be able to use instead?? There is a 3rd-party driver, DANIS506, you can find it at Hobbes (http://hobbes.nmsu.edu) --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: St. John's InfoNET (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: seg@NOSPAM-us.ibm.com 22-Oct-99 15:04:05 To: All 23-Oct-99 04:42:01 Subj: Re: GAH! Got a Trap error on our print server! Help! From: "Scott E. Garfinkle" On Fri, 22 Oct 1999 14:35:32 GMT, Stewart Honsberger wrote: > >So - does this mean there's any chance of my problem being resolved? If the original poster does what i said, then maybe so. --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: NCSD OS/2 Service (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: jyouells@lifestream.microserve.com 22-Oct-99 09:46:09 To: All 23-Oct-99 04:42:01 Subj: Re: UPDATE: Re: I can no longer live with OS/2 From: John Youells Dale Erwin wrote: >I followed David's cook-book procedure to the letter. Unfortunately >the result was the same as always. I thought sure that INI file >editing was going to be the thing that turned it around, but no such >luck! The wording of the message is a little different in 4.61: > > Netscape is unable to locate the server home.netscape.com. > > Please check the server name and try again. > >After I receive the FP12 CD that I ordered, I am going to apply FP12 >plus >the fixes for MPTS and TCP/IP then repeat the procedure. I will post >those results at that time. > >Is it possible for 4.61 and 2.02 to coexist on the same machine? >-- >Dale Erwin >Dallas, Texas > Yes - I have 2.02, 4.04 and 4.61 all running on the same machine. I often run 2.02 and 4.61 (or 4.04)at the same time. 4.61 and 4.04 won't run at the same time because they share some directories. 2.02 uses smartcache (Java cache) and 4.61 uses the netscape cache. John Youells LifeStream Computing --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: LifeStream Computing (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: Bill.Bob@deceptionPC.com 22-Oct-99 13:36:04 To: All 23-Oct-99 04:42:01 Subj: java icq & ibm lava 1.1.8 From: "Rodney D. Myers" is anyone experiencing trouble getting icq (java) to run with ibm java 1.1.8? it was working before I upgraded to 1.1.8. now I don't get anything. thanks --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Billie Bob (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: lifedata@xxvol.com 22-Oct-99 16:57:19 To: All 23-Oct-99 04:42:01 Subj: Re: Floppy problems From: lifedata@xxvol.com Bj rn Vermo said: >You ARE trying to format a HD diskette to 1.44MB, right? I have seen many >diskette drives which did not find out that the diskette was not HD, even >though the HD hole was missing. The error message is typical when you try to >format a 720kB diskette to 1.44. Or is it one of the rare 2.88 diskettes? They The Maxells say mf2HD on them, and 1.44MB. I got some new Verbatim mf2HD IBM preformatted disks and tried again. No dice. I swapped drives and tried again (this forced a re-format). I got through the utility disk process OK, but now I get those two lines of numbers (SYS error something or other) if I try to boot with them. So I went at it again with fresh Verbatim IBM formatted disks. Still fails at boot. I did a diskcomp on the Verbatims before both fresh and re-formatted and it found them identical. This is a hair puller. Jim L Remove XX from address to Email Crooks and kooks will get guns regardless of laws. --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: bCandid - Powering the world's discussions - http (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: tstreet@excel.net 22-Oct-99 16:14:03 To: All 23-Oct-99 04:42:01 Subj: Re: Modems (again?) From: tom Wayne Bickell wrote: > Hi guys, > > This has probably been covered before but I'm looking to > buy a new modem and install this one in another machine. > I'm thinking of getting an external one this time because all > the internal ones I can find are PCI WinModems. Anyway, > if it says on the box that it works with DOS, Win 95, 98, NT > and Macintosh does that mean it's a real modem and will > also work with OS/2? > > I'm sure the answer is yes but before I run out and lay down > my cash I'd like to be double sure :-) > > Any pointers wil be appreciated. > > Cheers > > Wayne Hi Wayne, I have/use AOpen 56k ISA modem with jumpers for$48.ooplus shipping, shipping a modem to Japan would cost about $10-12.oo Or get it there, get a "AOpen FM56ITU/2" these work excelent with OS/2 both Warp 3, 4.x > -- -- Tom Street 920-693-2824 S E M C O Street Electric Manufacturing Company Mfg. of the QuadJoy mouse for quadriplegics and people with high mobility impairments. see it at http://www.quadjoy.com --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Origin Line 1 Goes Here (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: Douglas@pickteam.com 22-Oct-99 21:25:17 To: All 23-Oct-99 04:42:01 Subj: Re: 2 questions..... From: Douglas@pickteam.com > 2) I have a Promise Ultra66 IDE controller card > and Ultra66 hard drive running under windows98. I am switching > back to OS/2. I checked the promise web page and > they don't have an OS/2 driver yet. Has anyone heard > anything about when (or if) there is going to be > a driver released?? Or is there any other 3rd party > driver that I might be able to use instead?? > I have emailed promise but they have not gotten back > to me yet. > Welcome back to the OS/2 users. I'm not a real technical guy, but wouldn't a drive controller operate beneath the level of the operating system? Even if the promise has some sort of special features that kick in with Win95, I would have to assume that it was backwards compatible with other IDE cards, or else you wouldn't even be able to boot from floppy. -- Douglas Tatelman douglas@pickteam.com www.pickteam.com Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy. --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Deja.com - Before you buy. (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: derwin@airmail.net 22-Oct-99 16:54:24 To: All 23-Oct-99 04:42:01 Subj: Re: Now that I have Netscape 4.61 From: Dale Erwin This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------817F7BF8C4CC302739A78AC9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit "David T. Johnson" wrote: > Dale Erwin wrote: > > > > Is it possible to import my address book and bookmarks from ver 2.02? > > -- > > I think that the 4.x install does this automatically. But, if it > doesn't, just copy address.htm and bookmark.htm from your netscape v2.02 > directory to the new directory for 4.x which will be something like > X:\netscape\users\irwin. All it asked me was did I want to convert my Web Explorer bookmarks. Anyway I was able to copy the bookmarks but not the address book. I copied it into the directory, but it still doesn't come up. So I added a couple of addresses to the address book from inside Netscape and went to look for the file and can find it nowhere. -- Dale Erwin Dallas, Texas --------------817F7BF8C4CC302739A78AC9 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=us-ascii; name="derwin.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: Card for Dale Erwin Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="derwin.vcf" begin:vcard n:Erwin;Dale tel;cell:(214)893-8738 tel;fax:(214)956-0982 tel;home:(214)893-8738 tel;work:(214)956-0887 x-mozilla-html:FALSE url:www.geocities.com/dale_ewin/ org:Erwin Technology Corporation adr:;;3624 Coral Gables Dr.;Dallas;Texas;75229-2619;USA version:2.1 email;internet:derwin@airmail.net title:President fn:Dale Erwin end:vcard --------------817F7BF8C4CC302739A78AC9-- --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Erwin Technology Corporation (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: DLaRue@NetSRQ.Com 22-Oct-99 21:56:26 To: All 23-Oct-99 04:42:01 Subj: Re: OK, I must be getting spoiled so let me ask for more ... From: DLaRue@NetSRQ.Com (David LaRue) Hello Peter, Ideally you would drag the TIFF Icon into your application's document and that would be it. Since you are having problems with that, perhaps you can drag the TIFF to the clipboard app. I'm not sure where it is in the folders. Put it someplace convienient like the desktop or the toolbar and then drag and drop to your hearts content. This works for apps that are WPS aware and understand the object you are trying to drop onto it. Printing is a good example. Enjoy, David LaRue In , News@The-Net-4U.com (M.P. van Dobben de Bruijn) writes: > > >Working on a document in IBMWorks I had some >problem reading in some scanned bigger TIF-files as >a picture to import. So I decided to take the other route >and push those files into the clipboard first from an appli- >cation where I could open them, switch to IBMWorks and >paste them onto the desired location from the clipboard then. > >Of course the way to open those files in this beauty OS >with great elegance was to right-click on their icon and select >the desired application from the menu popping-up. OS/2 is a joy >to work with everyday. But then I suddenly realized that perhaps >some faster / easier and less-clicks route could exist or be created. > >Isn't there a facility in Warp (or an utility if it must be) that allows me >to right-click on a files icon and then simply select the option to put >the contents into the clipboard without the need to open an app first? > >Regards from Leeuwarden >Peter van Dobben de Bruijn >--- >usethenet.at.the-net-4u.com (.at. becomes @) >---- --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Intelligence Network Online, Inc. (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: bran.everseeking@sk.sympatico.ca 22-Oct-99 15:56:00 To: All 23-Oct-99 04:42:01 Subj: Re: java icq & ibm lava 1.1.8 From: bran.everseeking@sk.sympatico.ca starts and runs fine but leaks like crazy and locks up the puter on close unless i kill the jre The Operating System/2 Version is 4.00 Revision 9.035 JDK 1.1.8 IBM build o118-19990910 1280x1024 16 mil 16" vis monitor Netscape 4.61 128bit GA P200 96 meg ATI 3dExpressions+ 4meg IBM GRADD .80 driver DSL 1.544 Mb/s connect , on 10/22/99 at 01:36 PM, "Rodney D. Myers" said: |>is anyone experiencing trouble getting icq (java) to run with ibm |>java 1.1.8? |>it was working before I upgraded to 1.1.8. now I don't get anything. |>thanks -- ----------------------------------------------------------- bran.everseeking@sk.sympatico.ca If I am politically correct it is as much an accident as my spelling, please dont expect an appology for my style or opinions. ----------------------------------------------------------- --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Origin Line 1 Goes Here (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: srd@x.mcmail.com 22-Oct-99 22:54:29 To: All 23-Oct-99 04:42:01 Subj: Re: java icq & ibm lava 1.1.8 From: Steve Drewell On Fri, 22 Oct 1999 at 13:36 (PDT), "Rodney D. Myers" wrote: >is anyone experiencing trouble getting icq (java) to run with ibm java >1.1.8? >it was working before I upgraded to 1.1.8. now I don't get anything. I can get it to work, but on exit my machine totally locks up and requires a reboot. It never locked up with 1.1.7, but more than a few things have changed on my machine recently so I can't say whether the problem lies with 1.1.8 (with the latest fixes) or not. Cheers, Steve -- Steve Drewell (Remove x. from address to reply) _____________________________________________________________ Using IBM OS/2 Warp 4 running 27 processes with 140 threads. Machine uptime is 2 days, 22 hours, 45 mins and 8 secs. _____________________________________________________________ --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Origin Line 1 Goes Here (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: fat_ox@hotmail.com 23-Oct-99 03:31:15 To: All 23-Oct-99 04:42:02 Subj: Re: Modems (again?) From: "OS/2 Fan" I have an external Zoom V90 faxmodem and was pleasantly surprized to find it works much more easily with Injoy 2.x under Warp 4 than it does under RH Linux 6.1 or the horrific WinNT 4.0. In any case the Zoom works great and it saves a slot since it's a serial model. It was less than $100 in the USA and costs less than 30,000 drachmas locally, in case anyone was wondering (I doubt anyone was...). I recommend it. Regards, Xtralarge OS/2 fan Opinions expressed are mine only. Ignore them and killfile me. Leave the University and/or my ISP alone, I don't speak for them, they have nothing to do with it, and they probably have more lawyers than you anyway. --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: An OTEnet S.A. customer (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: jpowell2@neo.rr.com 22-Oct-99 20:46:23 To: All 23-Oct-99 04:42:02 Subj: Warp 3 Fixpack From: jwp I have just purchased Warp 3 blue spine and I am getting ready to install. What is the latest fixpack for this version, and will that fixpack make W3 Y2K compliant? Thank you. --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Road Runner High Speed Online -- Northeast Ohio (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: ames@deltrak.demon.co.uk 23-Oct-99 00:37:00 To: All 23-Oct-99 04:42:02 Subj: Re: OK, I must be getting spoiled so let me ask for more ... From: ames@deltrak.demon.co.uk (Andrew Stephenson) In article DLaRue@NetSRQ.Com "David LaRue" writes: > [...] perhaps you can drag the TIFF to the clipboard app. I'm > not sure where it is in the folders. [...] My system (W4@FP10) has a clipboard viewer \OS2\CLIPOS2.EXE but "all" it does is show clipboard contents. Cutting to or pasting from it do not seem to be options. -- Andrew Stephenson --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: DNS (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: djohnson@isomedia.com 22-Oct-99 18:06:00 To: All 23-Oct-99 04:42:02 Subj: Re: Warp 3 Fixpack From: "David T. Johnson" jwp wrote: > > I have just purchased Warp 3 blue spine and I am getting ready to > install. What is the latest fixpack for this version, and will that > fixpack make W3 Y2K compliant? Thank you. The latest fixpack is 42 but the fixtool will not apply any fixpack greater than 40 to Warp 3 bluespine. All fixpacks after 32 are Y2K compliant. IMO, the best v3 fixpack is 39 which, I think, you can still download from IBM. Fixpack 40 broke some Win-OS2 apps. --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: djohnson@isomedia.com 22-Oct-99 18:02:14 To: All 23-Oct-99 04:42:02 Subj: Re: Now that I have Netscape 4.61 From: "David T. Johnson" Dale Erwin wrote: > > "David T. Johnson" wrote: > > > Dale Erwin wrote: > > > > > > Is it possible to import my address book and bookmarks from ver 2.02? > > > -- > > > > I think that the 4.x install does this automatically. But, if it > > doesn't, just copy address.htm and bookmark.htm from your netscape v2.02 > > directory to the new directory for 4.x which will be something like > > X:\netscape\users\irwin. > > All it asked me was did I want to convert my Web Explorer bookmarks. Anyway > I was able to copy > the bookmarks but not the address book. I copied it into the directory, but > it still doesn't come up. > So I added a couple of addresses to the address book from inside Netscape > and went to look for the > file and can find it nowhere. Both Netscape v2.02 and Communicator v4.x keep the address book in a file called address.htm. It is just an HTML file. When you install Communicator v4.x, it looks for the old v2.02 and, if it finds it, it copys the bookmarks and addressbook into the new communicator v4.x install. This assumes that you are not installing communicator v4.x into the same x:\netscape directory that Netscape v2.02 was in. My advice is to put v4.x into a new directory with a different name than Netscape v2.02. If you install v4.x into the same directory that v2.02 is in, this is a bad idea but the installer should not have overwritten the address.htm file since it goes in a different directory with v4.x as compared with v2.02. Anyway, look in the v2.02 directory and find the address.htm file. Copy this into the new v4.x directory and you should have you address book. If you can not find the file, I don't know what to say. It is possible to delete your old bookmarks and address book if you do an uninstall of v2.02 AND confirm to the uninstaller that you want to delete the bookmarks and address book. If you did this, they are gone unless you undelete them. But, you really have to be determined to delete them because it does not default to this. If you did not delete them, just keep looking. The files must be in there somewhere! Note that if you copy them to v4.61, they will still be in the v2.02 directory also. You can use both browsers if you want to. --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: lifedata@xxvol.com 22-Oct-99 21:11:27 To: All 23-Oct-99 04:42:02 Subj: How do you expand a partition? From: lifedata@xxvol.com I was just looking at a drive via FDISK and re-discovered a 30 mb freespace on it. A help seems to say you can expand an existing partition into freespace, but I don't see where it says how. Did I misread it? Can you expand a partition? If so, how? Jim L Remove XX from address to Email Crooks and kooks will get guns regardless of laws. --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: bCandid - Powering the world's discussions - http (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: rlhanson@worldnet.att.net 22-Oct-99 22:12:15 To: All 23-Oct-99 04:42:02 Subj: Multiprocessor Support From: "Richard Hanson" Quick question: Does OS/2 Warp v.4 support dual processors? I was thinking of installing it on a Tyan Tomcat 4.02 with dual P300's. -- Best regards, Rich Hanson --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: AT&T WorldNet Services (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: ps2guru@geocities.com 23-Oct-99 01:53:26 To: All 23-Oct-99 04:42:02 Subj: Re: FS: Fully equipped Server95 From: ps2guru@geocities.com (Dennis Smith) In article tulloch@modempool.com SPAMS... > > Server95@E-bay You already said that a couple of threads ago ... And turn off your damn HTML! We don't use that on newsgroups. -- Dennis Smith ps2guru@geocities.com AOL screen name: PentiumPS2 "THE PS/2 PAGE" http://members.tripod.com/~ps2page 8642-0D0, 9595-3PT, 8595-0KD, 9590-KLG, 8580-A31, 9577-BTG, 8573-121 --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Proud IBM PS/2 Owner. (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: mcbrides@erols.com 22-Oct-99 21:29:15 To: All 23-Oct-99 04:42:02 Subj: Re: Warp 3 Fixpack From: mcbrides@erols.com (Jerry McBride) In article <3810DFC9.D1488CAB@isomedia.com>, "David T. Johnson" wrote: >jwp wrote: >> >> I have just purchased Warp 3 blue spine and I am getting ready to >> install. What is the latest fixpack for this version, and will that >> fixpack make W3 Y2K compliant? Thank you. > >The latest fixpack is 42 but the fixtool will not apply any fixpack >greater than 40 to Warp 3 bluespine. All fixpacks after 32 are Y2K >compliant. IMO, the best v3 fixpack is 39 which, I think, you can still >download from IBM. Fixpack 40 broke some Win-OS2 apps. Visit Hobbes and grab a copy of B110.ZIP and use it before applying fixpaks greater than #40 to Warp 3.0... -- ******************************************************************************* * Sometimes, the BEST things in life really ARE free... * * Get a FREE copy of NetRexx 1.151 for your next java project at: * * * * GET IT NOW! WHILE IT'S STILL FREE! * * * * http://www2.hursley.ibm.com/netrexx * ******************************************************************************* /----------------------------------------\ | From the desktop of: Jerome D. McBride | | mcbrides@erols.com | \----------------------------------------/ -- --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: TEAM-NETREXX (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: rl3s@netcom9.netcom.com 23-Oct-99 02:19:03 To: All 23-Oct-99 04:42:02 Subj: Re: what brand and model PC today to buy for OS/2 ? From: Zeus Paleologos While I am appreciative of the suggestions made so far via post and email, I would like to re-emphasize several of my non-negotiable purchase preconditions: - brand name equipment and, I might add, of proven technology and reliability. Indeed, reliability might be my number 1 requirement. - factory-assembled. I have been the route of building your own PC several times. I will not do it again. - locally-available (not mail-order). Proximinity to dealer is important when handling problems for me. No DELLs. To re-focus any follow-ups, here again is my original post since some news servers are expiring articles after only a day or two: ________________________________________ I have been a user of OS/2 since 1993 and want to buy a PC to replace my old Packard Bell Pentium 75 which is now about 4 years old. This PC has a 1.2G HDD and has been setup for years to boot Win95 and Linux in addition to OS/2 though OS/2 is loaded 99+% of the time. The PC that I buy will be connected to the Internet full-time (24&7), primarily running a web server though I will also use it for light-duty desktop work. I will be attaching a parallel-port ZIP drive I own. I also hope to add to the PC if it does not already have the following equipment: a large HDD, a color inkjet printer, a DVD drive, a highspeed modem, audio card, 19" monitor, and scanner. I may want to also add: a network card, a CD-RW drive and a video camera. I expect to buy a brand name, factory-assembled, locally-available (i.e., not mail-order) product. I have a few questions: 1 - Regarding OS/2, does it matter whether I choose a PC model with a Celeron, Pentium II or Pentium III processor ? 2 - Does OS/2 handle large ( > 2GBytes) HDD's ? I understand it is a major headache to configure a PC and partition a large HDD today to allow the booting and running of either Win98, Linux, or OS/2 on the same unit. 3 - Do Hewlett-Packard (Pavillon) model PCs run OS/2 acceptably ? I notice that no OS/2 drivers are available for the R series HP printer/scanner/copiers. Should I forget these kind of all-in-one units if I plan to run OS/2? 4 - Should I plan on installing Warp 4 on whatever I get or will Warp 3 still be a possibility ? 5 - Is OS/2 support available for the range and kinds of peripherals in variety that I have indicated I will eventually add to my system? Regarding these questions, I would be grateful to anyone who could provide me with opinions, suggestions, references, or URL's that might be helpful in making a purchase decision. Thanks, ZP --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: MindSpring Enterprises (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: dtander@agts.net 23-Oct-99 02:49:25 To: All 23-Oct-99 04:42:02 Subj: Re: java icq & ibm lava 1.1.8 From: dtander@agts.net (David T. Anderson) On Fri, 22 Oct 1999 23:47:26, jan.eri@protector-group.no (Jan Eri) wrote: > On Fri, 22 Oct 1999 20:36:09, "Rodney D. Myers" > wrote: > > is anyone experiencing trouble getting icq (java) to run with ibm java 1.1.8? > > it was working before I upgraded to 1.1.8. now I don't get anything. > > Seems my experience is opposite from the others: I had lockups and trouble > before 1.1.8, but now everything is perfect. It worked okay for me, both before and after 1.1.8....aside from a memory leak that went away when I upped my RAM to 128M. Have you tried the new native ICQ/2 by Momotech? It's not quite as fully featured [ha!] as ICQJava, but it does the basics very well.... David T. Anderson Calgary, Alberta http://www.agt.net/public/dtander/ Using ProNews/2 for OS/2 Warp **NOSPAM** To email me, remove the 's' from my address... --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Origin Line 1 Goes Here (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: forkd4nisse@dtek.chalmers.se 23-Oct-99 05:24:12 To: All 23-Oct-99 04:42:02 Subj: Re: I can no longer live with OS/2 From: Martin Nisshagen cbzh@my-deja.com [Deja.com - Before you buy.] -> comp.os.os2.misc: ¯ - I agree 100% with "skrise" in one of his posts: "isn't the promise of ¯ OS/2 to protect the system even from ill-behaved / poorly programmed ¯ apps?". Yes, it is, of course! But there are ways for the programmer to ¯ get around it: must be, because otherwise you couldn't write hardware ¯ drivers, for example. But also for common applications there are Nope. Applications (like Navigator and Communicator) runs in protected user mode. Hardware drivers (on OS/2, NT4, BeOS and most UNICES *1) runs in kernel mode. ¯ - All this doesn't matter if the program has no errors :-)) And as far True. But to be realistic that will never happen (the OS must protect the rest of the system and it's other running applications from such errors). [*1]: The exception is micro kernel systems who also has it's drivers running in protected user mode (like NextBSD and for grahpics/printer drivers NT 3.x). Best regards, m a r t i n | n -- Martin Nisshagen PGP 6.5: 0x45D423AC K R A F T W E R K :) CS/CE, Chalmers, Sweden ICQ UIN: 689662 2 x 300A @ 450 MHz d4nisse-at-dtek-chalmers-se home2.pp.sbbs.se/mn home2.pp.sbbs.se/mn/kw --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Chalmers University of Technology, Sweden (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: bran.everseeking@sk.sympatico.ca 22-Oct-99 21:30:09 To: All 23-Oct-99 04:42:02 Subj: Re: java icq & ibm lava 1.1.8 From: bran.everseeking@sk.sympatico.ca In , on 10/23/99 at 02:49 AM, dtander@agts.net (David T. Anderson) said: |>Have you tried the new native ICQ/2 by Momotech? It's not quite as |>fully featured [ha!] as ICQJava, but it does the basics very |>well.... only reason I keep icq java around is for a couple of "chat" sessions that happen every week... as soon as chat is in java icq goes icq/2 is very nice alpha code, well lets face it if it were MS it would be released and worth 50 bux -- ----------------------------------------------------------- bran.everseeking@sk.sympatico.ca If I am politically correct it is as much an accident as my spelling, please dont expect an appology for my style or opinions. ----------------------------------------------------------- --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Origin Line 1 Goes Here (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: spam_free_norrisg@linkline.com 22-Oct-99 21:16:06 To: All 23-Oct-99 04:42:02 Subj: Re: Multiprocessor Support From: "Graham C. Norris" It supports the second processor in full boat-anchor mode. Graham. --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: lsunley@mb.sympatico.ca 23-Oct-99 04:33:24 To: All 23-Oct-99 04:42:02 Subj: Re: 2 questions..... From: lsunley@mb.sympatico.ca (Lorne Sunley) On Fri, 22 Oct 1999 21:25:34, Douglas@pickteam.com wrote: > > > 2) I have a Promise Ultra66 IDE controller card > > and Ultra66 hard drive running under windows98. I am switching > > back to OS/2. I checked the promise web page and > > they don't have an OS/2 driver yet. Has anyone heard > > anything about when (or if) there is going to be > > a driver released?? Or is there any other 3rd party > > driver that I might be able to use instead?? > > I have emailed promise but they have not gotten back > > to me yet. > > > > Welcome back to the OS/2 users. > > I'm not a real technical guy, but wouldn't a drive controller operate > beneath the level of the operating system? Even if the promise has some > sort of special features that kick in with Win95, I would have to assume > that it was backwards compatible with other IDE cards, or else you > wouldn't even be able to boot from floppy. > -- Yes, the hardware controller does function beneath the level of the operating system, but a device driver is required to communicate the requests from the OS to the hardware controller. The problems that happen usually occur when the a device driver that is made to provide services for a number of nearly equivalent devices (hardware disk controllers) 1) "thinks" that a special feature on a device is present but on the device installed the feature is not present. 2) the device driver "thinks" that a special feature works a certain way but it operates differently. The device is "backwards compatible" and a device driver that never ever uses the "special features" usually works. It's only when the device driver mis-uses one of the special features that the problems occur. Lorne Sunley --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: MBnet Networking Inc. (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: derwin@airmail.net 22-Oct-99 23:33:02 To: All 23-Oct-99 04:42:02 Subj: Re: 2ND UPDATE [Re: I can no longer live with OS/2 From: Dale Erwin This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------FD0B31AC48D7D19C98AE4937 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit David McKenna wrote: > On Fri, 22 Oct 1999 00:50:59 -0400, Dale Erwin wrote: > > > > >I am posting this message from Netscape version 4.61, but I am not > >sure congratulations are in order yet. > > > >I backed up my config.sys file then eliminated all references to > >IBMCOBOL in the file and re-booted and VIOLA. But now I am without my livelihood > >tool. > > > >What I thought about doing is going back and putting back one > >item at a time until I come across the offending line/lines. > >There are about 60 lines in that file that reference IBMCOBOL. > > > >Should this be reported to IBM as a defect in the VA COBOL > >install program? But, then, what good would it do. And they > >would probably want to charge me for making the report. > > > Dale, > > Well, at least you're getting somewhere. Definitely try putting one entry > at a time back in to determine which one causes the problem. It may simply be > a matter of putting the entries in specific positions on each line. > > Any line you removed which has *only* entries for COBOL (except for > Device= lines) is most likely not the problem so I would just put all those > back in. Concentrate on lines COBOL put entries in which have other paths as > well. When you get to the offending entry, experiment with its' position on > that line. Also look in the directory at the files therein. It's possible > there is a file in that directory which is the same as another file elsewhere > on your system. OS/2 will use the one in the directory first in line. From > the command prompt in the root directory type 'dir xxxxx.yyy /s' where > xxxxx.yyy is a file in the offending directory. This will list all instances > of that file on your drive. If more than one show up look at the directory > listed on the one(s) not in the offending COBOL directory. This will give you > a clue as to which path entry you need to place COBOL entries around. > > You might as well report this to both the IBM Netscape team and the VA > COBOL people - they may already know how to deal with it and could help you > out. Even if they don't, your effort to get everything working may help > someone else with the same difficulty. > > Keep us posted! > > Dave McKenna By the time I read this, I had already finished. My bood drive is C: and Netscape (along with almose all other applications) is on E:. I left all the COBOL only statements in just like you said. On the others, I moved all of the E:\IBMCOBOL\xxx entries after any entries on C: drive. I am now back up and 4.61 still seems to be working. I am now going to try to bring up VA COBOL. Probably should've done that before writing this... but I'll let you know. -- Dale Erwin Dallas, Texas --------------FD0B31AC48D7D19C98AE4937 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=us-ascii; name="derwin.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: Card for Dale Erwin Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="derwin.vcf" begin:vcard n:Erwin;Dale tel;cell:(214)893-8738 tel;fax:(214)956-0982 tel;home:(214)893-8738 tel;work:(214)956-0887 x-mozilla-html:FALSE url:www.geocities.com/dale_ewin/ org:Erwin Technology Corporation adr:;;3624 Coral Gables Dr.;Dallas;Texas;75229-2619;USA version:2.1 email;internet:derwin@airmail.net title:President fn:Dale Erwin end:vcard --------------FD0B31AC48D7D19C98AE4937-- --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Erwin Technology Corporation (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: derwin@airmail.net 22-Oct-99 23:59:29 To: All 23-Oct-99 04:42:02 Subj: Re: Now that I have Netscape 4.61 From: Dale Erwin This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------F63D2E9CC60415E05934B284 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit "David T. Johnson" wrote: > Dale Erwin wrote: > > > > "David T. Johnson" wrote: > > > > > Dale Erwin wrote: > > > > > > > > Is it possible to import my address book and bookmarks from ver 2.02? > > > > -- > > > > > > I think that the 4.x install does this automatically. But, if it > > > doesn't, just copy address.htm and bookmark.htm from your netscape v2.02 > > > directory to the new directory for 4.x which will be something like > > > X:\netscape\users\irwin. > > > > All it asked me was did I want to convert my Web Explorer bookmarks. Anyway > > I was able to copy > > the bookmarks but not the address book. I copied it into the directory, but > > it still doesn't come up. > > So I added a couple of addresses to the address book from inside Netscape > > and went to look for the > > file and can find it nowhere. > > Both Netscape v2.02 and Communicator v4.x keep the address book in a > file called address.htm. It is just an HTML file. When you install > Communicator v4.x, it looks for the old v2.02 and, if it finds it, it > copys the bookmarks and addressbook into the new communicator v4.x > install. > > This assumes that you are not installing communicator v4.x into the same > x:\netscape directory that Netscape v2.02 was in. My advice is to put > v4.x into a new directory with a different name than Netscape v2.02. If > you install v4.x into the same directory that v2.02 is in, this is a bad > idea but the installer should not have overwritten the address.htm file > since it goes in a different directory with v4.x as compared with v2.02. > > Anyway, look in the v2.02 directory and find the address.htm file. Copy > this into the new v4.x directory and you should have you address book. Like I said, I did that. After copying the file, however, when I go into Netscape 4.61 and open the address book it has no entries in it. After that, I added some entries to it from inside Netscape 4.61 and then looked in the directory and could find no other file anywhere that looked like it could be the address book, although those entries that I added from inside Netscape still show up when I bring up the address book inside Netscape. This worked for me when I installed Netscape 4.04--just copied the two files and VIOLA, there they were, but for 4.61 it only worked for the Bookmark.htm file. > > If you can not find the file, I don't know what to say. It is possible > to delete your old bookmarks and address book if you do an uninstall of > v2.02 AND confirm to the uninstaller that you want to delete the I didn't mean I couldn't find it in the 2.02 directory. I meant I could find no address book file in the new 4.61 directory after I had added addresses to it from inside Netscape 4.61. The file I copied from the 2.02 directory is there, but the entries for the freshly-added addresses are not in it. Yet, when I go back into Netscape 4.61 and open the address book they do indeed show up, even though none of the addresses in the file I copied show up. So there is a file somewhere, I just haven't looked in the right place. It either has another name or is in another directory. > > bookmarks and address book. If you did this, they are gone unless you > undelete them. But, you really have to be determined to delete them > because it does not default to this. > > If you did not delete them, just keep looking. The files must be in > there somewhere! Note that if you copy them to v4.61, they will still > be in the v2.02 directory also. You can use both browsers if you want > to. -- Dale Erwin Dallas, Texas --------------F63D2E9CC60415E05934B284 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=us-ascii; name="derwin.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: Card for Dale Erwin Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="derwin.vcf" begin:vcard n:Erwin;Dale tel;cell:(214)893-8738 tel;fax:(214)956-0982 tel;home:(214)893-8738 tel;work:(214)956-0887 x-mozilla-html:FALSE url:www.geocities.com/dale_ewin/ org:Erwin Technology Corporation adr:;;3624 Coral Gables Dr.;Dallas;Texas;75229-2619;USA version:2.1 email;internet:derwin@airmail.net title:President fn:Dale Erwin end:vcard --------------F63D2E9CC60415E05934B284-- --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Erwin Technology Corporation (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: derwin@airmail.net 23-Oct-99 00:05:01 To: All 23-Oct-99 04:42:02 Subj: Re: How do you expand a partition? From: Dale Erwin This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------AD2817820E196A7D08E2CAFB Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit lifedata@xxvol.com wrote: > I was just looking at a drive via FDISK and re-discovered a 30 mb freespace on > it. A help seems to say you can expand an existing partition into freespace, > but I don't see where it says how. > > Did I misread it? Can you expand a partition? If so, how? > > Jim L > Remove XX from address to Email > Crooks and kooks will get guns regardless of laws. If you expand the partition with FDISK you will lose all data. As I recall, with FDISK, you must delete the partition and redefine it. You can use a product called Partition Magic to expand a partition into existing freespace without losing data. -- Dale Erwin Dallas, Texas --------------AD2817820E196A7D08E2CAFB Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=us-ascii; name="derwin.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: Card for Dale Erwin Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="derwin.vcf" begin:vcard n:Erwin;Dale tel;cell:(214)893-8738 tel;fax:(214)956-0982 tel;home:(214)893-8738 tel;work:(214)956-0887 x-mozilla-html:FALSE url:www.geocities.com/dale_ewin/ org:Erwin Technology Corporation adr:;;3624 Coral Gables Dr.;Dallas;Texas;75229-2619;USA version:2.1 email;internet:derwin@airmail.net title:President fn:Dale Erwin end:vcard --------------AD2817820E196A7D08E2CAFB-- --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Erwin Technology Corporation (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: derwin@airmail.net 23-Oct-99 00:08:01 To: All 23-Oct-99 04:42:02 Subj: Re: Multiprocessor Support From: Dale Erwin This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------530A5E0A0B28A3B09924AD75 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Richard Hanson wrote: > Quick question: Does OS/2 Warp v.4 support dual processors? I was thinking of installing it on a Tyan Tomcat 4.02 with dual P300's. > > -- > Best regards, > > Rich Hanson Warp 4 client does not support multiple processors. Warp Server Advanced version 4 does support multiple processors. -- Dale Erwin Dallas, Texas --------------530A5E0A0B28A3B09924AD75 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=us-ascii; name="derwin.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: Card for Dale Erwin Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="derwin.vcf" begin:vcard n:Erwin;Dale tel;cell:(214)893-8738 tel;fax:(214)956-0982 tel;home:(214)893-8738 tel;work:(214)956-0887 x-mozilla-html:FALSE url:www.geocities.com/dale_ewin/ org:Erwin Technology Corporation adr:;;3624 Coral Gables Dr.;Dallas;Texas;75229-2619;USA version:2.1 email;internet:derwin@airmail.net title:President fn:Dale Erwin end:vcard --------------530A5E0A0B28A3B09924AD75-- --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Erwin Technology Corporation (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: TCandell@email.msn.com 22-Oct-99 22:54:25 To: All 23-Oct-99 04:42:02 Subj: MSN as internet provider in Warp From: "TCandell" Any help in setting up MSN in warp would be appreciated. Tech support at MSN gave me some DNS addresses but I still can"t connect. T. Candell --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Origin Line 1 Goes Here (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: rsteiner@visi.com 23-Oct-99 01:26:06 To: All 23-Oct-99 05:17:27 Subj: Re: 2 questions..... From: rsteiner@visi.com (Richard Steiner) Here in comp.os.os2.misc, meson2000@my-deja.com spake unto us, saying: >1) Does the java version of ICQ run under >OS/2???? If not, is there a version of ICQ >that I can get to run under OS/2??? I use an interesting native OS/2 text-mode ICQ thingie occasionally (when others make me play with ICQ) called micq, but I don't remember where I got it. I'll look around. You can find some others in this directory on Hobbes: ftp://hobbes.nmsu.edu/pub/os2/apps/internet/chat/ Welcome back to OS/2, by the way. :-) -- -Rich Steiner >>>---> rsteiner@visi.com >>>---> Bloomington, MN OS/2 + Linux + BeOS + FreeBSD + Solaris + WinNT4 + Win95 + DOS + VMWare + Fusion + vMac + Executor = PC Hobbyist Heaven! :-) Mate, this parrot wouldn't VOOM if you put four million volts through it! --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: FIELDATA FORTRAN ENTHUSIASTS CLUB (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: rsteiner@visi.com 23-Oct-99 01:36:16 To: All 23-Oct-99 05:17:27 Subj: Re: Change font in MS Mail on OS/2 Warp 4 From: rsteiner@visi.com (Richard Steiner) Here in comp.os.os2.misc, drider_trans@my-deja.com spake unto us, saying: >I need a PROVEN solution to changing the font in Win3x applications, >such as MS Mail 3.5 and FileManager, so my users can see larger size >text in extreme resolutions,such as 1280 x something-or-other. Probably not directly useful, but the Matrox Millenium video drivers I have came with a configuration object (MGA Settings) which allows the selection of Small or Large fonts under WinOS2 (and Small/Medium/Large for the PM desktop). It helps a lot. Perhaps your video drivers also have a similar adjustment in the OS/2 System settings object? -- -Rich Steiner >>>---> rsteiner@visi.com >>>---> Bloomington, MN OS/2 + Linux + BeOS + FreeBSD + Solaris + WinNT4 + Win95 + DOS + VMWare + Fusion + vMac + Executor = PC Hobbyist Heaven! :-) "I am your king." "Well, I didn't vote for you." --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: FIELDATA FORTRAN ENTHUSIASTS CLUB (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: rsteiner@visi.com 23-Oct-99 01:41:02 To: All 23-Oct-99 05:17:27 Subj: Re: How do you expand a partition? From: rsteiner@visi.com (Richard Steiner) Here in comp.os.os2.misc, lifedata@xxvol.com spake unto us, saying: >I was just looking at a drive via FDISK and re-discovered a 30 mb >freespace on it. A help seems to say you can expand an existing >partition into freespace, but I don't see where it says how. I don't think you can do that with OS/S'2 FDISK and retain the data intact, but I use Partition Magic for that sort of size adjustment rather a lot. That's one of the main reasons I bought it long ago. This freeware DOS program might also be helpful: ftp://ftp.cdrom.com/pub/simtelnet/msdos/bootutil/presz131.zip -- -Rich Steiner >>>---> rsteiner@visi.com >>>---> Bloomington, MN OS/2 + Linux + BeOS + FreeBSD + Solaris + WinNT4 + Win95 + DOS + VMWare + Fusion + vMac + Executor = PC Hobbyist Heaven! :-) Complimentary grain of salt ---> . <--- --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: FIELDATA FORTRAN ENTHUSIASTS CLUB (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: jknott@ibm.net 22-Oct-99 17:48:20 To: All 23-Oct-99 10:32:22 Subj: Re: How to Transfer File with serial port? From: jknott@ibm.net (James Knott) In article <380db486.0@katana.legend.co.uk>, jpolt@bradnet.legend.co.uk (John Poltorak) wrote: >At one time I came across an NDIS driver for a serial port, which in effect means >you could use the port as a slow network port defined as lan0 - lan9 in >setup.cmd. > >Unfortunately I can't recall where I came across this file - it may have been >included in something like LAN Distance. That's where it is in Warp Connect and in Remote Office Services in Warp 4. If you have those installed, you can run *ANY* protocol through the serial port. Also in Warp Connect & Warp 4 is the "Parallel Port Adapter", which will enable a network through a parallel port "Lap Link" cable. I use that here between my ThinkPad (with a token ring adapter for work) and my home network (ethernet). Works well, but slow. -- E-mail jknott@ca.ibm.com _________________________________________________________________________ The above opinions are my own and not those of ISM Corp., a subsidiary of IBM Canada Ltd. --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Global Network Services - Remote Access Mail & Ne (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net 23-Oct-99 09:29:28 To: All 23-Oct-99 10:32:22 Subj: Re: Floppy problems From: doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net (Doug Bissett) On Fri, 22 Oct 1999 20:57:39, lifedata@xxvol.com wrote: > The Maxells say mf2HD on them, and 1.44MB. I got some new Verbatim mf2HD IBM > preformatted disks and tried again. No dice. I swapped drives and tried again > (this forced a re-format). I got through the utility disk process OK, but now I > get those two lines of numbers (SYS error something or other) if I try to boot > with them. So I went at it again with fresh Verbatim IBM formatted disks. > Still fails at boot. > > I did a diskcomp on the Verbatims before both fresh and re-formatted and it > found them identical. > > This is a hair puller. > > Jim L > Remove XX from address to Email > Crooks and kooks will get guns regardless of laws. > > I am not sure if I understand you correctly, but if you just format a diskette, with OS/2, and try to boot that diskette, you will get the two SYS messages that you refer to. (OS/2 !! SYS01475 -> The file OS2BOOT cannot be found, and SYS2027: Insert a system diskette and restart the system). That is, the OS/2 version of what you get, if you try to boot a DOS formatted diskette, if there is no system installed on it (Non-System disk or disk error Replace and strike any key when ready), except, DOS puts the messages out in English, instead of computerese. OS/2 does NOT install a bootable system, unless you build one, with either the Create Utility Diskettes thing, or by using another build program, such as BOOTOS2. The SYS messages are NOT a diskette error, and are produced by the default boot code that is put on the diskette. Of course, if you are talking about Disk 0, of the four Utility diskettes, it should boot, but there has been some discussion about a problem with doing that, under very specific circumstances, which I have ignored, because I have never seen the problem (check out DEJANEWS). You may need to use the SYSINSTX program, to fix the boot records (You will find that in x:\OS2IMAGE\DISK_0\SYSINSTX.COM, on the warp4 install CD-ROM, and probably in the same place, for warp3). To address your "diskette drive problem", if you need to reformat a diskette, just because you changed to another diskette drive, there is something wrong with one. or both, of those drives. The "track 0" thing means that there is something wrong on track 0 of the diskette, or the drive cannot read, or write, to that track. It could be caused by many things: 1) The diskette has been physically damaged (look for scratches on the outer edge of the diskette, on either side). 2) The drive is misaligned, and cannot seek to track 0. 3) The drive is defective, and cannot properly read, or write. 4) There may be a sensor, that senses the type of diskette (the 1.44 meg - HD, or 2HD - diskettes have a hole, opposite to the write protect tab, and some drives have a sensor to detect that. If the drive is not detecting the hole, it would assume that it is a 720K diskette, and would set up to use the wrong record/playback levels, which would cause your problem). 5) You could have a defective cable (the flat one). A broken ground wire could cause your problem, or the signal wire that indicates the correct record/playback levels could be broken. 6) Your drive string may not be terminated properly. Only the last drive (the A: drive, which should be connected to the end of the cable, not the middle) should be terminated. Two terminators, or no terminators, could cause your problem. Some older drives have a plug in module, and newer drives, generally, have a switch, or a jumper on them for termination. 7) You may have a defective power connector. 8) You could have a bent connector pin under the cable connector (either end, same symptoms as a broken cable). 9) The adapter card (or the one on the MB, if that is where it is) could be defective. I would eliminate 2, 3, and 4, since you have tried two different drives, and there could be more things that could cause your problem. I do not use Maxell, or Verbatim, diskettes, but I doubt if the brand has anything to do with your problem. You, likely, have an incorrect setup, some damaged equipment, or you are assuming the SYS messages are a diskette error, when they are just a user error. The first thing I would check, is the drive termination. It has been a long time, since I saw a new, defective, diskette, but many of them need to be formatted (sometimes two, or three, times) before they can be used (they seem to have "lumps" of crap on them, that needs to be scraped off, or something like that). Hope this helps... ****************************** From the PC of Doug Bissett doug.bissett at attglobal.net The " at " must be changed to "@" ****************************** --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Global Network Services - Remote Access Mail & Ne (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net 23-Oct-99 09:30:01 To: All 23-Oct-99 10:32:22 Subj: Re: How do you expand a partition? From: doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net (Doug Bissett) On Sat, 23 Oct 1999 01:11:55, lifedata@xxvol.com wrote: > I was just looking at a drive via FDISK and re-discovered a 30 mb freespace on > it. A help seems to say you can expand an existing partition into freespace, > but I don't see where it says how. > > Did I misread it? Can you expand a partition? If so, how? > > Jim L > Remove XX from address to Email > Crooks and kooks will get guns regardless of laws. > > You backup, then delete an adjacent partition (before, or after, the empty one), create a new partition, which includes the free space, then format it, and restore the data. If the adjacent partitions are FAT formatted, they are limited to 2 gig, so you need to do a little planning to figure out how to do it. You could also use one of the partition tweakers (like Partition Magic), but I am not sure I would bother with that, unless you already own it. You could just create a new partition, as long as it doesn't change any of the existing drive letters (ie. if it is at the end of the drive). A 30mb partition makes a wonderful, bootable, maintenance partition, which you can build with BOOTOS2, as long as it is within a bootable portion of your disk (completely within less than Cylinder 1023). Hope this helps... ****************************** From the PC of Doug Bissett doug.bissett at attglobal.net The " at " must be changed to "@" ****************************** --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Global Network Services - Remote Access Mail & Ne (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net 23-Oct-99 09:30:05 To: All 23-Oct-99 10:32:22 Subj: Re: Multiprocessor Support From: doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net (Doug Bissett) On Sat, 23 Oct 1999 02:12:31, "Richard Hanson" wrote: > Quick question: Does OS/2 Warp v.4 support dual processors? I was thinking of installing it on a Tyan Tomcat 4.02 with dual P300's. > > -- > Best regards, > > Rich Hanson > Short answer: NO. Longer answer, only the server versions support SMP (Symetrical Multiple Processors). MANY dollars (or any other currency). Another answer, apparently, warp3 and 4 will run on a dual processor machine, but they will only use one of the processors. On the other hand, tests have shown very similar performance between a dual processor WinNT system, and a single processor OS/2 system, other things being mostly equal. Take from that what you will... ****************************** From the PC of Doug Bissett doug.bissett at attglobal.net The " at " must be changed to "@" ****************************** --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Global Network Services - Remote Access Mail & Ne (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net 23-Oct-99 09:30:02 To: All 23-Oct-99 10:32:22 Subj: Re: I can no longer live with OS/2 From: doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net (Doug Bissett) On Thu, 21 Oct 1999 17:57:07, skrise@ibm.net wrote: > When I bought into the OS/2 philosophy (systems should be robust and > allow the user to get work done) that was my understanding > and I must admit that the biggest disappointment with Warp 4 (actually > the only disappointment) was that if I used NS then I would eventually > have to reboot at some point due to a complete lockup of the UI. > The early versions of NS2.02, did have some bad lockup problems (from what I saw, most of the time, OS/2 ws alive, and well, in the background, but you couldn't get to it to kill Netscape). The latest version (to be found on the IBM Software Choice - Catalog site -> http://service.boulder.ibm.com/asd-bin/doc/en_us/catalog.htm ), seems to have fixed MOST of those problems. A second source of problems was the 1.02 version of JAVA. I have found the last few versions to be rock solid. You can get the latest JAVA (1.1.8) from the same site (along with the Software Installer, required to install it), and you can get the latest fixes for that from ftp://ftp.hursley.ibm.com/pub/java/fixes/os2/11/ (follow the appropriate links). A third source of problems, was the Linkup.EXE program, that was used by the Modem version of the icons, to test if you were already connected to the internet, and to give you the oportunity to connect if you were not. This program started NS as a child process, and would, very often, abend, invisibly, in the background, which left the NS2.02 program hanging out in never-never land (read "hung"). I found, that using the appropriate dialer (DOIP, Injoy etc.), to connect to the internet, then starting Netscape, from the LAN version of the icon (it just starts Netscape, without Linkup.EXE), worked MUCH better, since Netscape was then a child of the desktop, and if the desktop abended, you had other things to worry about (doesn't happen often). At the same site, you will also find the newest Netscape Communicator 4.61. It does seem to have a few problems, but overall is much better than NS2.02 (IMO). Most of the problems can be overcome with a few excelent add on tools (Wget and AWget, to fix some downloading problems, Smartcache to fix the cache problems, and, hopefully soon, a fix pack to fix, at least, some of the known, identified problems). See http://www.os2bbs.com/os2news/Communicator.html for more info about known problems, workarounds, and other tips. As for a kill utility, I don't use anything but the WarpCenter Kill function. From the ConfigMaint/2 data file: ========================================== SET SCKILLFEATUREENABLED=1 ON, does the same as 1 Allows to kill misbehaving programs with a Ctrl/left click on the WarpCenter task list (second button from the left) ========================================= This line goes into your CONFIG.SYS to enable the kill feature. It kills almost everything I have tried it on (I don't ever remember trying it on Nescape 4.61). ConfigMaint/2 is available from HOBBES. Look for CFGMT100.ZIP, and its latest update CFGUPD3.ZIP (may be 4 by now). The data file is readable in a text editor (the OS/2 System Editor), and the program helps you understand, and tweak your CONFIG.SYS. I also, strongly, recommend FixPack 12. Hope this helps... ****************************** From the PC of Doug Bissett doug.bissett at attglobal.net The " at " must be changed to "@" ****************************** --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Global Network Services - Remote Access Mail & Ne (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: dwparsons@t-online.de 23-Oct-99 11:43:20 To: All 23-Oct-99 10:32:22 Subj: Re: Now that I have Netscape 4.61 From: dwparsons@t-online.de (Dave Parsons) On Fri, 22 Oct 1999 20:54:49, Dale Erwin wrote: > > "David T. Johnson" wrote: > > > Dale Erwin wrote: > > > > > > Is it possible to import my address book and bookmarks from ver 2.02? > > > -- > > > > I think that the 4.x install does this automatically. But, if it > > doesn't, just copy address.htm and bookmark.htm from your netscape v2.02 > > directory to the new directory for 4.x which will be something like > > X:\netscape\users\irwin. > > All it asked me was did I want to convert my Web Explorer bookmarks. Anyway > I was able to copy > the bookmarks but not the address book. I copied it into the directory, but > it still doesn't come up. > So I added a couple of addresses to the address book from inside Netscape > and went to look for the > file and can find it nowhere. > -- > Dale Erwin From the Navigator main window select:- Communicator->Address Book From the address book window select:- File->Import and use the file selector to import your NS 2.02 address.htm directly. NC 4.61 does not use the html format but it can import from an HTML file. Your new address book is called pab.na2. -- Dave --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: CDL (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: patrick.palmer@dtn.ntl.com 23-Oct-99 12:12:07 To: All 23-Oct-99 10:32:22 Subj: Changing CDROM From: patrick.palmer@dtn.ntl.com Dear All, This might be something I could find in a faq. But I dodn't know where the faq are! I installed V4, Fixpack11 onto a machine with a soundblaster+panasonic 2X drive. Now I want to replace the CDROM with a faster one. I have a Hitachi 8130, which works fine with NT (same machine). Can't get OS2 to find the new CD and forget about the old. I have tried various things, like setting it all up using the old CDROM, copying the OS2diskimage to Harddrive, messing around with config.sys... Any ideas about the right way - or anyone point me to the faq that deals with it. TIA Patrick please reply to the newsgroup as I don't use this email address much. --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: NTL Internet News Service (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: cigolott@nbnet.nb.ca 23-Oct-99 11:42:12 To: All 23-Oct-99 10:32:23 Subj: Re: Floppy problems From: cigolott@nbnet.nb.ca (tom c.) Don't know what the problem is but don't throw them out. Save them up and refomat them with DOS and they can be reused. One thing that happened in an old system was that the arm for the heads on the disk drive get dusty and couldn't move all the way. A cleaning with a Q-tip did the job then. Don't know about this new system though. In message <380e959c$1$yvsrqngn$mr2ice@news.vol.com> - lifedata@xxvol.com writes: } }It seems that for as long as I can remember I have had trouble using 3.5" }floppies. I'm trying to make up some utility disks. I have gone through a }dozen Maxell 2HD floppies, and either when I try to format them I get "Can't }format track 0", or can't find sector error. } }What in the world is this "Can't format track 0" all about? I keep throwing }floppies away by the handful. I have tried on two different machines and half a }dozen different floppy drives. I've tried command line formatting in Warp 3 and }the formatting found in the drives object in Warp 4. I keep getting all this }flack from floppies. } }Anybody with any ideas what's going on here????????????????????? Is Maxell just }a trashy disk? } }Jim L }Remove XX from address to Email }Crooks and kooks will get guns regardless of laws. } } --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: NBTel Internet (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: rde@tavi.co.uk 23-Oct-99 12:22:05 To: All 23-Oct-99 14:34:06 Subj: Re: How to Transfer File with serial port? From: rde@tavi.co.uk (Bob Eager) On Tue, 19 Oct 1999 17:39:32, jaltman@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Jeffrey Altman) wrote: > For the lastest information about Kermit on OS/2 please see > > http://www.kermit-project.org/os2.html > > not hobbes. Yes, but don't the newer (non-Hobbes) versions cost money? -- Bob Eager rde at tavi.co.uk PC Server 325; PS/2s 8595*3, 9595*3 (2*P60 + P90), 8535, 8570, 9556*2, 8580*6, 8557*2, 8550, 9577, 8530, P70, PC/AT.. --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Tavi Systems (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: rde@tavi.co.uk 23-Oct-99 12:22:07 To: All 23-Oct-99 14:34:06 Subj: Re: How to Transfer File with serial port? From: rde@tavi.co.uk (Bob Eager) On Mon, 18 Oct 1999 19:30:33, salsal@pasargad.shirazu.ac.ir wrote: > Hi... > I want to transfer a file from rs232 serial port from one computer to > another An easy and cheap way....DOS 6 and its included INTERLINK program. -- Bob Eager rde at tavi.co.uk PC Server 325; PS/2s 8595*3, 9595*3 (2*P60 + P90), 8535, 8570, 9556*2, 8580*6, 8557*2, 8550, 9577, 8530, P70, PC/AT.. --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Tavi Systems (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: maxikins@os2bbs.com 23-Oct-99 13:11:08 To: All 23-Oct-99 14:34:06 Subj: Re: Changing CDROM From: maxikins@os2bbs.com (Mark Klebanoff) On Sat, 23 Oct 1999 11:12:14, patrick.palmer@dtn.ntl.com wrote: > Dear All, > > This might be something I could find in a faq. But I dodn't know where > the faq are! > > I installed V4, Fixpack11 onto a machine with a soundblaster+panasonic > 2X drive. Now I want to replace the CDROM with a faster one. I have a > Hitachi 8130, which works fine with NT (same machine). Can't get OS2 to > find the new CD and forget about the old. I have tried various things, > like setting it all up using the old CDROM, copying the OS2diskimage to > Harddrive, messing around with config.sys... > Do a selective uninstall of the old CD, and when you install the new, odds are it's a generic IDE/ATAPI. Try that. It'll need to get pugged into an IDE port, BTW --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Verio (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: mark.molyneux@virgin.net 21-Oct-99 12:03:26 To: All 23-Oct-99 14:34:06 Subj: Re: What FP level? From: "Mark" Type SYSLEVEL at the prompt and review the output to find out your fixpak levels. Mark. Mark.molyneux@virgin.net ncoffey@netrover.com wrote in message ... >I've not only forgotten what FP level of Warp 3 I'm at, but also how >to find out. Would someone please enlighten me? > >Thank you, >Nancy --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Virgin Net Usenet Service (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: bounce.spam@drive.way 23-Oct-99 14:01:26 To: All 23-Oct-99 14:34:06 Subj: Re: I can no longer live with OS/2 From: bounce.spam@drive.way (-don-) On Fri, 22 Oct 1999 09:48:52, "Kim Cheung" wrote: > No. I believe 4.61 has a very different design when compared to 4.04. I > was told that they did it one way and found that it really didn't work and > this time they did it "differently". I don't know the detail, however, but > the effect shows. 4.61 (beta) is quite stable - whereas 4.04 really wasn't. > I have not yet tried 4.61, but have been running 2.02 (and one instance of 4.04) quite nicely with all java and javascript functions disabled. javascript is a russian-roulette game, and enabling java is sure-death. -don- donh at audiosys dot com --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: bCandid - Powering the world's discussions - http (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: rgibson@ix.netcom.com 23-Oct-99 14:36:22 To: All 23-Oct-99 14:34:07 Subj: Re: I can no longer live with OS/2 From: rgibson@ix.netcom.com (Ron Gibson) On Thu, 21 Oct 1999 20:12:29, skrise@ibm.net wrote: > > Steven, I've never had a session of any kind that Watchcat couldn't > > take care of. > I have tried WatchCat and the KILL9 dll extension and neither of > those could kill Netscape when it had hung. Is it possible that > there is something in my setup that would prevent me from killing > apps as effectively as you can? I've got a problem with 4.04 that can't be resolved that causes hangs that sometimes require a hard reboot and I have watchcat. Look at you netscape cache file and see how big it is. It shouldn't be any bigger than it's set to. Mine is set to 4096K (4 meg). However, it has grown as large as 40Meg! I now put it on a ram drive because I get tired of deleting the files every other day. email: rgibson@ix.netcom.com --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: MindSpring Enterprises (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: patrick.palmer@dtn.ntl.com 23-Oct-99 15:37:11 To: All 23-Oct-99 14:34:07 Subj: Re: Changing CDROM From: patrick.palmer@dtn.ntl.com Thanks. I assume you mean I need to uninstall all the multimedia support as there is no option to uninstall particular devices. Patrick Mark Klebanoff wrote: > > On Sat, 23 Oct 1999 11:12:14, patrick.palmer@dtn.ntl.com wrote: > > > Dear All, > > > > This might be something I could find in a faq. But I dodn't know where > > the faq are! > > > > I installed V4, Fixpack11 onto a machine with a soundblaster+panasonic > > 2X drive. Now I want to replace the CDROM with a faster one. I have a > > Hitachi 8130, which works fine with NT (same machine). Can't get OS2 to > > find the new CD and forget about the old. I have tried various things, > > like setting it all up using the old CDROM, copying the OS2diskimage to > > Harddrive, messing around with config.sys... > > > Do a selective uninstall of the old CD, and when you install the new, > odds are it's a generic IDE/ATAPI. Try that. It'll need to get > pugged into an IDE port, BTW --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: NTL Internet News Service (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: patrick.palmer@dtn.ntl.com 23-Oct-99 15:45:26 To: All 23-Oct-99 14:34:07 Subj: Re: Modems (again?) From: patrick.palmer@dtn.ntl.com I'll add that I have an internal ZOOM FAXMODEM 56K that works great with OS2v4 and NT4. It was about 70 bucks. There is a ZOOM winfaxmodem 56k that is cheaper and I guessed would not work. Cheers Patrick > I have an external Zoom V90 faxmodem and was pleasantly surprized to > find it works much more easily with Injoy 2.x under Warp 4 than it > does under RH Linux 6.1 or the horrific WinNT 4.0. In any case the > Zoom works great and it saves a slot since it's a serial model. It > was less than $100 in the USA and costs less than 30,000 drachmas > locally, in case anyone was wondering (I doubt anyone was...). I > recommend it. > Regards, > Xtralarge OS/2 fan > > Opinions expressed are mine only. Ignore them and > killfile me. Leave the University and/or my ISP alone, > I don't speak for them, they have nothing to do with it, > and they probably have more lawyers than you anyway. --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: NTL Internet News Service (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: rl3s@netcom17.netcom.com 23-Oct-99 14:54:18 To: All 23-Oct-99 14:34:07 Subj: Re: Latest version of os2??!! From: Zeus Paleologos In article on Fri, 22 Oct 1999 15:14:58 GMT, Lorne Sunley wrote: > On Fri, 22 Oct 1999 11:46:29, "Grunt" wrote: >> I am interested in finding out which is the latest version of OS2 >> Warp!!!!????? >> > The latest version of the OS/2 Warp client is Warp 4. > The latest fixpack for that version is Fixpack 12 > The latest version of Warp Server is Warp Server > for e-Business (AKA Warp 4.5) > Lorne Sunley Just curious, but what is the difference between Client and Server versions? I run servers on the Internet with plain old Warp 3 Blue with IAK. And though I own Warp 4 (Client?) upgrade, I don't use it-- yet. --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: MindSpring Enterprises (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: esther@bitranch.com 23-Oct-99 14:57:22 To: All 23-Oct-99 14:34:07 Subj: Re: cincyteamos2? From: esther@bitranch.com (Esther Schindler) On Fri, 22 Oct 1999 00:20:31, Craig Benbow wrote: | What happened to TeamOS2 at cincy? | Yes I have not been keeping track. Can anyone explain what happened to | them so we can have some closure on this once prominent OS/2 group. As happens to a lot of user groups... the guy who gave it vision got distracted. (Actually, I think he got married.) As a result, the group, and the site, faded. (I've been involved with user groups since 1986. This happens to user groups all the time, and shouldn't be construed as an OS/2 issue. It is, however, a sad thing, as the Cincy group used to do a *great* Web site.) --Esther program chair Phoenix OS/2 Society http://www.possi.org --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Frontier GlobalCenter Inc. (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: derwin@airmail.net 23-Oct-99 10:20:21 To: All 23-Oct-99 14:34:07 Subj: Re: Now that I have Netscape 4.61 From: Dale Erwin This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------BFE181D29707671D41874593 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dave Parsons wrote: > From the Navigator main window select:- > Communicator->Address Book > From the address book window select:- > File->Import > and use the file selector to import your NS 2.02 address.htm directly. > > NC 4.61 does not use the html format but it can import from an HTML file. > Your new address book is called pab.na2. > > -- > Dave Thanks for the info, Dave. However, I can't seem to get it to work. After doing what you say, the 2.02 addresses are still not available. -- Dale Erwin Dallas, Texas --------------BFE181D29707671D41874593 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=us-ascii; name="derwin.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: Card for Dale Erwin Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="derwin.vcf" begin:vcard n:Erwin;Dale tel;cell:(214)893-8738 tel;fax:(214)956-0982 tel;home:(214)893-8738 tel;work:(214)956-0887 x-mozilla-html:FALSE url:www.geocities.com/dale_ewin/ org:Erwin Technology Corporation adr:;;3624 Coral Gables Dr.;Dallas;Texas;75229-2619;USA version:2.1 email;internet:derwin@airmail.net title:President fn:Dale Erwin end:vcard --------------BFE181D29707671D41874593-- --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Erwin Technology Corporation (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: derwin@airmail.net 23-Oct-99 10:30:24 To: All 23-Oct-99 14:34:07 Subj: Re: cincyteamos2? From: Dale Erwin This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------BD5CD6472C0446A3EF3DF894 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Esther Schindler wrote: > On Fri, 22 Oct 1999 00:20:31, Craig Benbow > wrote: > > | What happened to TeamOS2 at cincy? > | Yes I have not been keeping track. Can anyone explain what happened to > | them so we can have some closure on this once prominent OS/2 group. > > As happens to a lot of user groups... the guy who gave it vision got > distracted. (Actually, I think he got married.) As a result, the > group, and the site, faded. > > (I've been involved with user groups since 1986. This happens to user > groups all the time, and shouldn't be construed as an OS/2 issue. It > is, however, a sad thing, as the Cincy group used to do a *great* Web > site.) > > --Esther > program chair > Phoenix OS/2 Society > http://www.possi.org The DFW user group also appears to have faded out of existence. It went steadily downhill after Jim Stuyck retired. When I was in Los Angeles, the LA group was a waste of time. The SCOUG is, of course, VERY fine, but it was a 90-mile drive for me. So here I am feeling sequestered from the OS/2 community except for these ngs. -- Dale Erwin Dallas, Texas --------------BD5CD6472C0446A3EF3DF894 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=us-ascii; name="derwin.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: Card for Dale Erwin Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="derwin.vcf" begin:vcard n:Erwin;Dale tel;cell:(214)893-8738 tel;fax:(214)956-0982 tel;home:(214)893-8738 tel;work:(214)956-0887 x-mozilla-html:FALSE url:www.geocities.com/dale_ewin/ org:Erwin Technology Corporation adr:;;3624 Coral Gables Dr.;Dallas;Texas;75229-2619;USA version:2.1 email;internet:derwin@airmail.net title:President fn:Dale Erwin end:vcard --------------BD5CD6472C0446A3EF3DF894-- --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Erwin Technology Corporation (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: forkd4nisse@dtek.chalmers.se 23-Oct-99 17:40:29 To: All 23-Oct-99 14:34:07 Subj: Re: Multiprocessor Support From: Martin Nisshagen doug.bissett at attglobal.net [Global Network Services - Remote Access Mail & News Services] -> comp.os.os2.misc: ¯ Short answer: NO. ¯ ¯ Longer answer, only the server versions support SMP (Symetrical ¯ Multiple Processors). MANY dollars (or any other currency). Even longer (and probably almost nitpick): OS/2 v 2.11 SMP (client) supports SMP. ¯ Another answer, apparently, warp3 and 4 will run on a dual processor ¯ machine, but they will only use one of the processors. On the other ¯ hand, tests have shown very similar performance between a dual ¯ processor WinNT system, and a single processor OS/2 system, other ¯ things being mostly equal. Well, if you mainly use a computer for only I/O intensive tasks you won't notice much improvement with several processors, but if you run a CPU intensive process who is well multi threaded, or several different processes at the same you will with 2 processors almost see a linear double improvement in performance (I have run a two processor machine for over half a year now). http://kikumaru.w-w.ne.jp/pc/celeron/dcbench.html That said most normal type of applications (like Office apps, games, etc) who isn't very well multi threaded you won't see much improvement (at least not near the double for most practical tasks), and even some graphic applications isn't always practically perfect independent threaded in it's tasks. But this is of course if you only run one application (using the CPU) concurrently (if you run several process you will see a great use of two processors even if they in them self isn't very well threaded, or at al). Best regards, m a r t i n | n -- Martin Nisshagen PGP 6.5: 0x45D423AC K R A F T W E R K :) CS/CE, Chalmers, Sweden ICQ UIN: 689662 2 x 300A @ 450 MHz d4nisse-at-dtek-chalmers-se home2.pp.sbbs.se/mn home2.pp.sbbs.se/mn/kw --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Chalmers University of Technology, Sweden (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: Bill.Bob@deceptionPC.com 23-Oct-99 09:04:11 To: All 23-Oct-99 14:34:07 Subj: Re: java icq & ibm lava 1.1.8 From: "Rodney D. Myers" On Sat, 23 Oct 1999 02:49:50 GMT, David T. Anderson wrote: I just found ICQ/2, and got the updated emx libraries. Works great :>On Fri, 22 Oct 1999 23:47:26, jan.eri@protector-group.no (Jan Eri) :>wrote: :> :>> On Fri, 22 Oct 1999 20:36:09, "Rodney D. Myers" :>> wrote: :>> > is anyone experiencing trouble getting icq (java) to run with ibm java 1.1.8? :>> > it was working before I upgraded to 1.1.8. now I don't get anything. :>> :>> Seems my experience is opposite from the others: I had lockups and trouble :>> before 1.1.8, but now everything is perfect. :> :>It worked okay for me, both before and after 1.1.8....aside from a :>memory leak that went away when I upped my RAM to 128M. :> :>Have you tried the new native ICQ/2 by Momotech? It's not quite as :>fully featured [ha!] as ICQJava, but it does the basics very well.... :> :>David T. Anderson :>Calgary, Alberta :>http://www.agt.net/public/dtander/ :> :>Using ProNews/2 for OS/2 Warp :> :>**NOSPAM** To email me, remove the 's' from my address... --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Billie Bob (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: lifedata@xxvol.com 23-Oct-99 13:24:08 To: All 23-Oct-99 16:48:03 Subj: Re: How do you expand a partition? From: lifedata@xxvol.com Dale Erwin said: >If you expand the partition with FDISK you will lose all data. As I recall, >with FDISK, you must delete the partition and redefine it. Hmm, you must mean delete both partitions and redefine the space as one. That's what I wa afraid of. I'm a little leery of PM. The last time I used it, I had intermittent chkdsk errors in that area until I reformatted the partition and reinstalled OS/2. Jim L Remove XX from address to Email Crooks and kooks will get guns regardless of laws. --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: bCandid - Powering the world's discussions - http (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: lifedata@xxvol.com 23-Oct-99 13:30:05 To: All 23-Oct-99 16:48:03 Subj: Re: How do you expand a partition? From: lifedata@xxvol.com doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net (Doug Bissett) said: >You could also use one of the partition tweakers (like Partition >Magic), but I am not sure I would bother with that, unless you already own it. >You could just create a new partition, as long as it doesn't change any of the >existing drive letters I'll probably just ignore it. The space is on my first physical drive so it would change my drive letters. Since it is an old half gig, I'll probably put it in my dad's old computer later. Jim L Remove XX from address to Email Crooks and kooks will get guns regardless of laws. --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: bCandid - Powering the world's discussions - http (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: lifedata@xxvol.com 23-Oct-99 13:28:12 To: All 23-Oct-99 16:48:03 Subj: Re: How do you expand a partition? From: lifedata@xxvol.com rsteiner@visi.com (Richard Steiner) said: >I use Partition Magic for that sort of size adjustment What version do you have? Jim L Remove XX from address to Email Crooks and kooks will get guns regardless of laws. --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: bCandid - Powering the world's discussions - http (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: mckinnis@attglobal.net 23-Oct-99 12:05:24 To: All 23-Oct-99 16:48:03 Subj: Re: How do you expand a partition? From: Chuck McKinnis I have never had a problem with Partition Magic 3.0 (latest fix level) when changing and moving partitions. However, the only safe way to run it is from a booted DOS diskette. lifedata@xxvol.com wrote: > > Dale Erwin said: > > >If you expand the partition with FDISK you will lose all data. As I recall, > >with FDISK, you must delete the partition and redefine it. > > Hmm, you must mean delete both partitions and redefine the space as one. That's > what I wa afraid of. > > I'm a little leery of PM. The last time I used it, I had intermittent chkdsk > errors in that area until I reformatted the partition and reinstalled OS/2. > > Jim L > Remove XX from address to Email > Crooks and kooks will get guns regardless of laws. -- Chuck McKinnis Senior Systems Engineer Denver Solutions Group, Inc. IBM Business Partner IBM Senior Systems Engineer (retired) --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Denver Solutions Group (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: maxikins@os2bbs.com 23-Oct-99 20:18:15 To: All 23-Oct-99 19:54:20 Subj: Re: Changing CDROM From: maxikins@os2bbs.com (Mark Klebanoff) On Sat, 23 Oct 1999 14:37:23, patrick.palmer@dtn.ntl.com wrote: > Thanks. I assume you mean I need to uninstall all the multimedia support > as there is no option to uninstall particular devices. > > Patrick > Woah. I didn't relaize that. The important thing is probably to change 1 or 2 lines in config.sys I don't think I'd go that far. I'd need to think about what lines it might be, but maybe someone here knows --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Verio (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: lsunley@mb.sympatico.ca 23-Oct-99 20:36:21 To: All 23-Oct-99 19:54:20 Subj: Re: Changing CDROM From: lsunley@mb.sympatico.ca (Lorne Sunley) On Sat, 23 Oct 1999 20:18:30, maxikins@os2bbs.com (Mark Klebanoff) wrote: > On Sat, 23 Oct 1999 14:37:23, patrick.palmer@dtn.ntl.com wrote: > > > Thanks. I assume you mean I need to uninstall all the multimedia support > > as there is no option to uninstall particular devices. > > > > Patrick > > > Woah. I didn't relaize that. The important thing is probably to > change 1 or 2 lines in config.sys I don't think I'd go that far. I'd > need to think about what lines it might be, but maybe someone here > knows Multimedia support has nothing to do with the ability of OS/2 to detect and use the CD-ROM drives. The CD player applications use the devices detected by the OS. Selective install has a screen that shows the various device options available. One of those is the CD-ROM device(s) supported. In order to support any of the IDE CD-ROM devices you need two lines in the config.sys file. BASEDEV=IBM1S506.ADD BASEDEV=IBMIDECD.FLT This assumes the IDE CD-ROM device is connected to one of the IDE connectors provided on most motherboards. If the CD-ROM is the only device on the IDE bus it is connected to make sure it is set to MASTER. If it is set as a SLAVE and it is the only device, the drivers will not use it. Lorne Sunley --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: MBnet Networking Inc. (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: kimwaicSpamGoToGarbage@deltanet.com 23-Oct-99 13:39:18 To: All 23-Oct-99 19:54:20 Subj: Re: Multiprocessor Support From: "Kim Cheung" On 23 Oct 1999 09:30:10 GMT, Doug Bissett wrote: >> Quick question: Does OS/2 Warp v.4 support dual processors? I was thinking of installing it on a Tyan Tomcat 4.02 with dual P300's. Actually, there is no technical difficulty having the SMP kernel running in Warp 4. Unfortunately nobody was able to convince Austin Marketing that having a SMP kernel isn't going to affect his server sales (like they were actually marketing the server). As a result, it was never allowed out the door. When you have it, it's sooooooooo nice. --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: TouchVoice Corporation (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: jeffos2@mindspring.com 23-Oct-99 20:36:06 To: All 23-Oct-99 19:54:20 Subj: Re: Modems (again?) From: jeffos2@mindspring.com (Jeffery Swagger) In <3810963c$1$obot$mr2ice@news.pics.com>, Bob Germer writes: >On , on 10/22/99 >at 02:19 PM, > piquant00@uswestmail.net (Annie K.) said: > >> :if it says on the box that it works with DOS, Win 95, 98, NT >> :and Macintosh does that mean it's a real modem and will >> :also work with OS/2? > >> Yes. > >Bad answer. The answer should be maybe. Not all external modems are true >modems. Some external modems are USB, not serial port. True. However, even when you have a true modem that works with OS/2, you'll find that the flash upgrade program is Winblows only. ---- Jeff The probability of someone watching you is directly proportional to the stupidity of your actions.... --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: None (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: domi@kenavo.NOSPAM.fi 23-Oct-99 20:52:09 To: All 23-Oct-99 19:54:20 Subj: Re: cincyteamos2? From: domi@kenavo.NOSPAM.fi (Dominique Pivard) On Sat, 23 Oct 1999 14:57:45, esther@bitranch.com (Esther Schindler) wrote: > > (I've been involved with user groups since 1986. This happens to user > groups all the time, and shouldn't be construed as an OS/2 issue. It > is, however, a sad thing, as the Cincy group used to do a *great* Web > site.) Another great site heavily inspired from the old Cincy Team OS/2 site is: http://www.warpupdates.de/ It's a one-man show but is constantly updated and full of useful information. --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: None!! (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: domi@kenavo.NOSPAM.fi 23-Oct-99 20:57:14 To: All 23-Oct-99 19:54:20 Subj: Re: MSN as internet provider in Warp From: domi@kenavo.NOSPAM.fi (Dominique Pivard) On Sat, 23 Oct 1999 05:54:51, "TCandell" wrote: > Any help in setting up MSN in warp would be appreciated. Tech support at > MSN gave me some DNS addresses but I still can"t connect. Just a guess: could it be that MSN is using MS-CHAP (as the name indicates, Mickey$oft's own non-standard extension to CHAP) for authentication? If you have been using the standard dialer included in Warp (Dial Other Internet Provider, which doesn't know about MS-CHAP), you may want to try InJoy (http://www.fx.dk/injoy/), which supports MS-CHAP. --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: None!! (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: JSeder-nospam@syntel.com 23-Oct-99 14:38:17 To: All 23-Oct-99 19:54:20 Subj: Re: UPDATE: Re: I can no longer live with OS/2 From: Jonathan Seder > Netscape is unable to locate the server home.netscape.com. You might do a couple of experiments to check your TCP/IP installation - from what I've read, there could be nothing at all wrong with Netscape. You said that Netscape reported that it can't find home.netscape.com. In a command prompt window, can you ping home.netscape.com? If you get ping: unknown host home.netscape.com then the problem is with your DNS setup and has nothing at all to do with Netscape. If you're feeling a little more adventurous, you could also go to a command prompt window and type nslookup home.netscape.com You should see somthing like this: [C:\mydir]nslookup home.netscape.com Server: dns.my-isp.net Address: 123.123.123.123 Non-authoritative answer: Name: www-ld1.netscape.com Address: 207.200.75.200 Aliases: home.netscape.com Be careful - you should verify that you are running TCP/IP WR08620 first. nslookup in at least one old rev of TCP/IP trapped. If you're using the IBM Internet dialer, make sure that the "Domain Nameserver" entry on the "Connect" page has the correct entry. This information is provided by your ISP. It could be that you are using a remote nameserver, not in your ISP's network, which isn't reliable. --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: SyntelSoft Inc (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: sfgrant@my-deja.com 23-Oct-99 21:33:12 To: All 23-Oct-99 19:54:20 Subj: Warp 4, Fixpak 12 / Service Halts From: sfgrant@my-deja.com I've installed Warp 4 onto a brand new pc. I use Boot Manager with Win98 on the other partition. The Warp package should include the label "Some Assembly Required". It seems to get much use out of OS/2, you have to install Fixpaks. I started with Fixpak 12, using the "Fix" method to install FP12 from the hard drive. Service initiates ok, and gets as far as examining my system before halting with the error message: "An error occurred while searching for files to update. The reason may be old or corrupt CSF logfiles, CSF_SEL.000, or file system corruption. See Readme file for more info." There are no CSF logfiles on the system, I get the same error whether I have a dummy empty CSF_SEL.000 file on it or not, and any logfiles just repeat the message above. I've tried other methods of applying the Fixpak, all end with the same message. I haven't tried an on-line method since I've only recently managed to get the modem working with Warp. This error is mentioned in one of the text files that came with Warp, but the suggested remedy made some ineffective reference to Syslevel. Syslevel.exe reports the same version number as in Syslevel.os2: XR04000. Syslevel.os2 contains many directory and file names. Not all of those are present on my machine since I thought I'd wait until after applying the Fixpak before attempting to install the sound system and MultiMedia features. Can anyone suggest where to go from here, or more information I could provide to assist a solution? thanks Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy. --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Deja.com - Before you buy. (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: rgibson@ix.netcom.com 23-Oct-99 22:11:24 To: All 23-Oct-99 21:23:15 Subj: Re: Now that I have Netscape 4.61 From: rgibson@ix.netcom.com (Ron Gibson) On Fri, 22 Oct 1999 20:54:49, Dale Erwin wrote: This is real simple as I do it between 4 platforms, OS/2, W31, W98 and Linux. Just save bookmark.htm somewhere. Create a user profile. Rename the default bookmark.htm to bookmark.old. Copy your saved bookmark file into the user directory. That's all there is to it. > > > Is it possible to import my address book and bookmarks from ver 2.02? > > > -- > > > > I think that the 4.x install does this automatically. But, if it > > doesn't, just copy address.htm and bookmark.htm from your netscape v2.02 > > directory to the new directory for 4.x which will be something like > > X:\netscape\users\irwin. > > All it asked me was did I want to convert my Web Explorer bookmarks. Anyway > I was able to copy > the bookmarks but not the address book. I copied it into the directory, but > it still doesn't come up. > So I added a couple of addresses to the address book from inside Netscape > and went to look for the > file and can find it nowhere. > -- > Dale Erwin > Dallas, Texas > > > > Content-Description: Card for Dale Erwin > -------Begin Encoded File------- > Encoded filename: derwin.vcf > Decoded path: file:///J:\PRONEWS\DECODED\derwin~1.vcf > Encoding type: 7-Bit > File size: 0KB > --------End Encoded File-------- > --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: MindSpring Enterprises (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: hamei@pacbell.net 23-Oct-99 22:19:29 To: All 23-Oct-99 21:23:15 Subj: Re: Warp 4, Fixpak 12 / Service Halts From: hamei@pacbell.net In <7ut9j5$7l7$1@nnrp1.deja.com>, sfgrant@my-deja.com writes: >I've installed Warp 4 onto a brand new pc. I use Boot Manager with >Win98 on the other partition. The Warp package should include the label >"Some Assembly Required". > :-) >It seems to get much use out of OS/2, you have to install Fixpaks. I'd disgree . . if this is your first venture into OS/2 land, I'd put off the fixpacks for a bit. OS/2 no-fixed runs fine, if you're like me you'll learn enough in the beginning to want to reinstall with fewer bad choices later anyway. >Syslevel.exe reports the same version number as in Syslevel.os2: >XR04000. Syslevel.os2 contains many directory and file names. Not all >of those are present on my machine since I thought I'd wait until after >applying the Fixpak before attempting to install the sound system and >MultiMedia features. bad idea. the part that needs fixing most is multimedia ! you want the fixpack to update MMOS2 *for sure*, so you should get the complete system up and running first (IMHO) then run the Fpack. For what it's worth, I've had the best success with a 'fastkick141.zip' from Hobbes, DIUNPACK the disk files to a temp directory, use the .cmd program to do the work of updating. I've also had some *evil* results with that "such-and-such file on your hard disk is newer" dialog. These days, I don't care *what* it asks, it all gets updated and I can deal with "newer files" later if necessary. Had the system refuse to boot again too many times because the "newer file on the hard drive" wasn't. Mr Spalten has explained how this works, 'newness' is not the entire criterion, but the message is misleading. Ignore it ! > >Can anyone suggest where to go from here, or more information I could >provide to assist a solution? advice is cheap, but IMO you should get everything you want to use installed at base level, use it for a bit like that, then go for the fixpacks. the readme's have a lot of information, but you have to read them pretty carefully to get max understanding. They've been improved recently, but there's stll a lot to pick up in one sitting, especially if this is a new system to you. And again, I like the fastkick method, but there's several to choose from, look over at hobbes and find one you like. > >thanks > -- Albert, the Mad Shirt Grinder --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: SBC Internet Services (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: jwelton@my-deja.com 23-Oct-99 22:22:14 To: All 23-Oct-99 21:23:15 Subj: Instructions: How To Build An OS/2 Computer From: jwelton@my-deja.com Is there a an OS/2 web site that offers instructions or guidelines for building my own OS/2-compatible computer? I'd really like to go to a site that offered me step-by-step instructions for building my own computer specifically for OS/2. You know, offer me as many web addresses for as possible for ordering the specific hardware needed so I could get the best buys possible. Once all the parts are received I could ten relog on to the site and walk through a step-by-step process of putting the hardware together and then installing my base Warp 4 system. Follow that by installing all the latest updates. If such a site is available this would be a great help to those of us "do it yourselfers" or to other bright OS/2 entrepreneurs who we could contract with to put such a system together. If such a site existed then anyone could sit down and create they own system. Once built they could advertise it for sale and create a new system, constantly updating their knowledge and the OS/2 systems they offer. I'd jumpt at the chance to buy a system from some knowledgeable OS/2 entrepreneur who said: "Pay me three so and so bucks then buy the necessary hardware (parts) and I'll put together the best OS/2 system I can based upon the parts you buy." That would be great! Is there such a site and if not, why not? Here's hopin' Jeff Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy. --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Deja.com - Before you buy. (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: spam_free_norrisg@linkline.com 23-Oct-99 16:35:18 To: All 23-Oct-99 21:23:15 Subj: Re: Warp 4, Fixpak 12 / Service Halts From: "Graham C. Norris" Apart from updating IDE drivers on the install floppies before you start, you need to install all the bits you want *before* you service OS/2, otherwise you'll just have to apply the service again after you've installed them in order to get those bits serviced too. SYSLEVEL.OS2 should not contain a list of files and directories, sounds like you've overwritten it (which would also explain why you can't service the system). You can copy it off the CD, install the multimedia stuff, then apply the service. Graham. --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: wayne@SPAM.tkb.att.ne.jp 24-Oct-99 07:58:08 To: All 23-Oct-99 21:23:15 Subj: Re: Modems (again?) From: "Wayne Bickell" On Sat, 23 Oct 1999 03:31:31 -0400 (EDT), OS/2 Fan wrote: :>I have an external Zoom V90 faxmodem and was pleasantly surprized to :>find it works much more easily with Injoy 2.x under Warp 4 than it :>does under RH Linux 6.1 or the horrific WinNT 4.0. In any case the :>Zoom works great and it saves a slot since it's a serial model. It :>was less than $100 in the USA and costs less than 30,000 drachmas :>locally, in case anyone was wondering (I doubt anyone was...). I :>recommend it. :>Regards, :>Xtralarge OS/2 fan I was looking at a USR yesterday. Big red lable with Win98 on it and was twice the price of an Omron or I.O.Data. These are in the 6,980 - 7,980 yen range, if anyone is interested in comparing currencies :-) Cheers Wayne ****************************************************** Wayne Bickell Tokyo, Japan wayne@tkb.att.ne.jp ****************************************************** Posted with PMINews 2 for OS/2 Running on OS/2 Warp 4 (UK) + FixPak 9 ****************************************************** --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: AT&T Internet Service (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: spam_free_norrisg@linkline.com 23-Oct-99 16:41:14 To: All 23-Oct-99 21:23:15 Subj: Re: Multiprocessor Support From: "Graham C. Norris" "David T. Johnson" wrote: > A little off-topic but what is the advantage of dual P300's over a > single PIII 600 Mhz or Athlon 700 Mhz? a) The motherboard is probably more expensive b) They require a more expensive version of OS/2 ... c) ... which doesn't support Win-OS2 fully d) For most purposes, they will be slower e) If you ever use Win9x or DOS, it will be slower as it only uses one CPU. Oh, it was *advantages* you were looking for ... er, the original Win95 will boot, whereas it won't with a 350 or faster CPU. Graham. --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: fritzo@humboldt.net 23-Oct-99 08:41:02 To: All 24-Oct-99 05:23:24 Subj: Re: UPDATE: Re: I can no longer live with OS/2 From: fritzo@humboldt.net(Fritz Oppliger) In <7umijp$ofl$5@news.ox.ac.uk>, on 10/21/99 at 08:24 AM, engs0011@sable.ox.ac.uk (Ian Johnston) said: >Wayne Bickell (wayne@SPAM.tkb.att.ne.jp) wrote: >: Most definitely. I sometimes have to use 2.02 because 4.61, like its >: predecessor, sometimes barfs on file downloads. The progress >: box just disappears. >Me too! >Ian Me too! So then I use 2.02 plus autoget /awget fritzo@humboldt.net(Fritz Oppliger) KE6VDA --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Origin Line 1 Goes Here (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: lifedata@xxvol.com 23-Oct-99 21:45:04 To: All 24-Oct-99 05:23:24 Subj: Re: Floppy problems From: lifedata@xxvol.com James Moe said: > Have you tried using a cleaning disk on the drive(s)? I seem to >recall having this sort of problem and cleaning fixed it. If the drive sits >idle for looooong time, crud builds up on the heads and effect their >sensitivity. Well, I think you may have hit on the answer. I haven't cleaned a floppy drive in years. Thanks for the reminder. Jim L Remove XX from address to Email Crooks and kooks will get guns regardless of laws. --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: bCandid - Powering the world's discussions - http (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: forkd4nisse@dtek.chalmers.se 24-Oct-99 04:46:18 To: All 24-Oct-99 05:23:24 Subj: Re: Multiprocessor Support From: Martin Nisshagen David T. Johnson [Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com] -> comp.os.os2.misc: ¯ A little off-topic but what is the advantage of dual P300's over a ¯ single PIII 600 Mhz or Athlon 700 Mhz? The advantage is compared to a dual PIII or Athlon. That said the previous poster maybe already has a dual board and just want to do an easy upgrade of processing power by inserting the same type of CPU in to the second CPU slot. This is very common on graphics workstations as it provides a cheap and easy path for extending the CPU capacity of the machine (even in the case with that the CPU isn't the latest and fastest it's usually much more expensive in lost down time and possible compatibility problems to change it's motherboard or the whole computer). That's why most workstation PC from IBM, HP and Dell is shipped that way (only with one processor installed, but fully ready to take another one quickly). Best regards, m a r t i n | n -- Martin Nisshagen PGP 6.5: 0x45D423AC K R A F T W E R K :) CS/CE, Chalmers, Sweden ICQ UIN: 689662 2 x 300A @ 450 MHz d4nisse-at-dtek-chalmers-se home2.pp.sbbs.se/mn home2.pp.sbbs.se/mn/kw --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Chalmers University of Technology, Sweden (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: lifedata@xxvol.com 23-Oct-99 22:48:13 To: All 24-Oct-99 05:23:24 Subj: What's the deal on IBM1S506.ADD? From: lifedata@xxvol.com I don't remember why, but I downloaded IBMDASD.ZIP. I'm running Warp 4 at FP12. Why are my system files a year older than those in this ZIP file? Should I put the newer ones in the system? Jim L Remove XX from address to Email Crooks and kooks will get guns regardless of laws. --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: bCandid - Powering the world's discussions - http (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: lsunley@mb.sympatico.ca 24-Oct-99 03:11:05 To: All 24-Oct-99 05:23:24 Subj: Re: What's the deal on IBM1S506.ADD? From: lsunley@mb.sympatico.ca (Lorne Sunley) On Sun, 24 Oct 1999 02:48:26, lifedata@xxvol.com wrote: > I don't remember why, but I downloaded IBMDASD.ZIP. > > I'm running Warp 4 at FP12. Why are my system files a year older than those in > this ZIP file? Should I put the newer ones in the system? > IBM has split the Warp fixpacks into two streams. one for the general OS and a sepatate for device drivers. This occured with fixpack 11 (I think). The fixpack for the device drivers is available at the IBM FTP site as well as fixpack 12. There should also be an RSU style update for it. URL ftp://ftp.software.ibm.com/ps/products/os2/fixes/DDPak/xr_d001/ RSU URL http://ps.software.ibm.com/pbin-usa-ps/getobj.pl?/pdocs-usa/softupd.ht ml If you don't have any problems, there is no reason to install the fixpack. The newer IBM1S506 drivers do support the larger disk drives. Some people have reported problems with various configurations of hardware. Lorne Sunley --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: MBnet Networking Inc. (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: hunters@thunder.indstate.edu 24-Oct-99 03:21:20 To: All 24-Oct-99 05:23:24 Subj: Re: Instructions: How To Build An OS/2 Computer From: hunters@thunder.indstate.edu In article <7utcf3$9gb$1@nnrp1.deja.com>, jwelton@my-deja.com wrote: > Is there a an OS/2 web site that offers instructions or > guidelines for building my own OS/2-compatible computer? Well, there's not really much of a trick to it. A good place to start is at the hardware vendor of your choice; just start picking the hardware you want. Then check your list against this page: The OS/2 Deice Driver Pack Online http://service.software.ibm.com/os2ddpak/html/index.htm And I think you'll be pleasantly surprised. :) OS/2 doesn't really require any real pickyness reguarding hardware anymore (with the exception of soundcards, most (but not all) PPort scanners/removable media drives, and many (but not all) USB devices). I base this claim, of course, on the upcoming IBM licensed version of SciTech Display Doctor for OS/2, which will effectively make OS/2 the equal (envy perhaps?) of other OSes in reguards to video card drivers. Good luck! -- -Steven Hunter *OS/2 Warp 4 * | hunters@thunder.indstate.edu *AMD K6-2 400* | Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy. --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Deja.com - Before you buy. (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: jdc0014@InfoNET.st-johns.nf.ca 24-Oct-99 03:45:28 To: All 24-Oct-99 05:23:24 Subj: Re: Multiprocessor Support From: jdc0014@InfoNET.st-johns.nf.ca (John Hong) Graham C. Norris (spam_free_norrisg@linkline.com) wrote: : Oh, it was *advantages* you were looking for ... er, the original Win95 : will boot, whereas it won't with a 350 or faster CPU. Not exactly, this is particular to the AMD K6-2/3 line. I have a Celeron 366Mhz that installed/booted/ran Windows 95 OSR2 fine without the AMD K6 350Mhz update. --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: St. John's InfoNET (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: kahnt@adan.kingston.net 24-Oct-99 00:00:23 To: All 24-Oct-99 05:23:24 Subj: Re: java icq & ibm lava 1.1.8 From: "Mark L. Kahnt" "David T. Anderson" wrote: > > On Fri, 22 Oct 1999 23:47:26, jan.eri@protector-group.no (Jan Eri) > wrote: > > > On Fri, 22 Oct 1999 20:36:09, "Rodney D. Myers" > > wrote: > > > is anyone experiencing trouble getting icq (java) to run with ibm java 1.1.8? > > > it was working before I upgraded to 1.1.8. now I don't get anything. > > > > Seems my experience is opposite from the others: I had lockups and trouble > > before 1.1.8, but now everything is perfect. > > It worked okay for me, both before and after 1.1.8....aside from a > memory leak that went away when I upped my RAM to 128M. > > Have you tried the new native ICQ/2 by Momotech? It's not quite as > fully featured [ha!] as ICQJava, but it does the basics very well.... > > David T. Anderson > Calgary, Alberta > http://www.agt.net/public/dtander/ > > Using ProNews/2 for OS/2 Warp > > **NOSPAM** To email me, remove the 's' from my address... Hmmm... I've got ICQ/2 here, but it for the longest time wouldn't connect through to Mirabilis (although I just tried it now and it worked). I'm probably keeping ICQJava, though, because I can use the same executable on all three o/ses on this box, with the same configuration. ICQ/2 has belched and lost all of my friends - which wasn't nice. It needs to be able to import friends the way AICQ does (and support authorisations - it didn't ask for any!). But I've had no hint of trouble from ICQJava - it is working faster with 1.1.8 and seems quite smooth, including no observable memory leaks here (just the fact that IBM JVM doesn't seem to release any memory until it exits, including what is freed up in garbage collection - it may be "free", but it doesn't seem to be available for re-use. That has been a problem with the IBM JVM here all along.). -- ============================================================ To respond via e-mail - remove the "go-away-spammers" portion of the Reply to: value. Mark L. Kahnt, C.P. Box 1263, Kingston, Ontario K7L 4Y8 Voix: (613) 531-8767 Cellulaire: (613) 539-0935 Telecopieur: (613) 531-8684 Email: kahnt@adan.kingston.net --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: M.L. Kahnt New Markets Consulting (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: rsmits@curmudgeon.bc.ca 23-Oct-99 21:29:00 To: All 24-Oct-99 05:23:24 Subj: Re: Changing CDROM From: rsmits@curmudgeon.bc.ca In <3811980E.C21BAB02@dtn.ntl.com>, on 10/23/99 at 12:12 PM, patrick.palmer@dtn.ntl.com said: >Dear All, >This might be something I could find in a faq. But I dodn't know where >the faq are! >I installed V4, Fixpack11 onto a machine with a soundblaster+panasonic 2X >drive. Now I want to replace the CDROM with a faster one. I have a >Hitachi 8130, which works fine with NT (same machine). Can't get OS2 to >find the new CD and forget about the old. I have tried various things, >like setting it all up using the old CDROM, copying the OS2diskimage to >Harddrive, messing around with config.sys... >Any ideas about the right way - or anyone point me to the faq that deals >with it. Yes. Check to see whether or not you are running the CD as slave or driver (assuming it's IDE) and make sure your CD is set the same way. Some CD's don't seem to care how they're jumpered if they're the only one on the connector, others do. -- ----------------------------------------------------------- rsmits@curmudgeon.bc.ca ----------------------------------------------------------- --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Islandnet.com in B.C. Canada (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: hamei@pacbell.net 24-Oct-99 04:34:16 To: All 24-Oct-99 05:23:24 Subj: Re: Multiprocessor Support From: hamei@pacbell.net In <381247A9.C1C37102@linkline.com>, "Graham C. Norris" writes: >"David T. Johnson" wrote: >> A little off-topic but what is the advantage of dual P300's over a >> single PIII 600 Mhz or Athlon 700 Mhz? > >a) The motherboard is probably more expensive maybe, maybe not >b) They require a more expensive version of OS/2 ... check out eBay >c) ... which doesn't support Win-OS2 fully where do you get this idea ? Running Winos2 beautifully SMP here . . >d) For most purposes, they will be slower depends what you're doing, possibly ? >Oh, it was *advantages* you were looking for ... price/performance. Can you out-type even a Pentium 133 ? (not counting Ami Pro OS/2, my dog can outdistance an Athlon 700 running that program) >Graham. -- Albert, the Mad Shirt Grinder --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: SBC Internet Services (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: lifedata@xxvol.com 24-Oct-99 02:06:22 To: All 24-Oct-99 05:23:24 Subj: Floppies/Utilities again From: lifedata@xxvol.com Cleaning the heads on my floppy drive seems to have helped greatly in making utility disks. However. When I try to run the utilities, I get only to disk 2, the third disk. At that point I get an error I have never heard of before: S/2 is unable to operate your hard disk or diskette drive. The system has stopped... I assume the S/2 is supposed to be OS/2, but it has appeared exactly like that both times I got the error. Obviously it has operated both the hard drive and the floppy drive merely getting to that point. Does anybody have any idea why I get this unusual (to me) error? Jim L Remove XX from address to Email Crooks and kooks will get guns regardless of laws. --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: bCandid - Powering the world's discussions - http (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: dwparsons@t-online.de 24-Oct-99 08:20:21 To: All 24-Oct-99 05:23:24 Subj: Re: Now that I have Netscape 4.61 From: dwparsons@t-online.de (Dave Parsons) X-Newsreader: ProNews/2 Version 1.50 1 On Sat, 23 Oct 1999 14:20:43, Dale Erwin wrote: > Dave Parsons wrote: > > > From the Navigator main window select:- > > Communicator->Address Book > > From the address book window select:- > > File->Import > > and use the file selector to import your NS 2.02 address.htm directly. > > > > NC 4.61 does not use the html format but it can import from an HTML file. > > Your new address book is called pab.na2. > > > > -- > > Dave > > Thanks for the info, Dave. However, I can't seem to get it to work. After doing > what you say, > the 2.02 addresses are still not available. > -- > Dale Erwin Strange, I've just tested it here with a second profile and it worked perfectly. What did it do when you told it to import address.htm? Does the 4.61 address book contain anything? Can you open your 2.02 address.htm correctly as a normal HTML file in the 4.61 browser? It should show the names in your address book and when you put the cursor over a name it should show you something like:- mailto:somebody@somenode.somedomain. in the status line. Also what do you have in your ...\users\erwin directory? Does the address book still work OK under 2.02? Or perhaps. if the 2.02 address.htm looks OK, you could see if you can set up another profile and try to import address.htm into that. -- Dave --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: CDL (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: manatee@nwlink.com 23-Oct-99 23:54:14 To: All 24-Oct-99 05:23:24 Subj: os2 installation troubles From: joseph Here's my scenario: I found an unopened copy of os2 2.1 at 1/2 price books for 19.98. I also got an unopened copy of warp 3 upgrade for 7.98. Pretty good deal? I've never used os2, but it intrigues me. I also have freebsd and linux-mandrake installed. There is 5500Mb free at the beginning of the hd, and when I try to install 2.1, I get an "fdisk unsuccessful". Incidentally, I have to use the warp installation disks because the ones that came with 2.1 don't recognize my cdrom, a generic ide/atapi. If I remove the 2.1 cd and pop in the warp cd, I can get the fdisk to run, but it only sees 95Mb available on the drive. I've tried different things. I've used fdisk under linux to create different types of partitions, such as fat16, hpfs, hidden os2, and I've tried it with the partition deleted. No luck whatever I do. So, what can I do? I've tried to create my own install disk directly from the cd, thinking the problem could be in the disk. I wasn't able to quite pull it off under linux. I used the dd command to copy the files. I don't know why, but it didn't work. Anyhow, I wonder if the install disks are even the problem. Could it be hardware incompatibility? My hard drive is a maxtor $200 special, 20 gigs, 7200 rpm, udma66. More likely, I think it could be the bios settings. Does anyone out there have any info that could help me get this thing up and running? Is os2 still being developed by ibm? Do they plan to continue releases? Also, and I know this question comes a little early for me, where can I get warp 4 and what does it cost? --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Northwest Link (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: whonea@codenet.net 24-Oct-99 01:03:06 To: All 24-Oct-99 05:23:24 Subj: Re: Floppies/Utilities again From: whonea@codenet.net (Will Honea) On Sun, 24 Oct 1999 06:06:44, lifedata@xxvol.com wrote: This sounds like what I get when I have a bad floppy. Try making new install disks on new, goo floppies. You may need to do a bit more cleaning as well. Last time I blew mine clean it looked like a dust storm. Guess there's something to be said for positive pressure cooling flow! > Cleaning the heads on my floppy drive seems to have helped greatly in making > utility disks. However. > > When I try to run the utilities, I get only to disk 2, the third disk. At that > point I get an error I have never heard of before: > > S/2 is unable to operate your hard disk or diskette drive. The system has > stopped... > > I assume the S/2 is supposed to be OS/2, but it has appeared exactly like that > both times I got the error. > > Obviously it has operated both the hard drive and the floppy drive merely > getting to that point. Does anybody have any idea why I get this unusual (to > me) error? > > Jim L > Remove XX from address to Email > Crooks and kooks will get guns regardless of laws. > > Will Honea --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Origin Line 1 Goes Here (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: glen@rockyhorror.Zkaroo.co.uk 24-Oct-99 09:41:29 To: All 24-Oct-99 10:19:13 Subj: Re: G400 drivers & software From: glen@rockyhorror.Zkaroo.co.uk (Glen D) On Tue, 19 Oct 1999 21:45:54 -0500, Scott Waugh wrote: > He also mentioned that their >driver model will allow them to bring antialiasing font support to OS/2(again >can't remember if this was coming with initial release or later, all the stuff >he talked about was amazing). I don't know what the antialias thing is, but he >got a big round of applause when he mentioned it. It's a way of smoothing the edges of fonts. I'd be glad to see this too. Glen D -- --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Customer of Planet Online (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: derwin@airmail.net 24-Oct-99 05:10:05 To: All 24-Oct-99 10:19:13 Subj: Re: Now that I have Netscape 4.61 From: Dale Erwin Dave Parsons wrote: > X-Newsreader: ProNews/2 Version 1.50 1 > > On Sat, 23 Oct 1999 14:20:43, Dale Erwin wrote: > > > Dave Parsons wrote: > > > > > From the Navigator main window select:- > > > Communicator->Address Book > > > From the address book window select:- > > > File->Import > > > and use the file selector to import your NS 2.02 address.htm directly. > > > > > > NC 4.61 does not use the html format but it can import from an HTML file. > > > Your new address book is called pab.na2. > > > > > > -- > > > Dave > > > > Thanks for the info, Dave. However, I can't seem to get it to work. After doing > > what you say, > > the 2.02 addresses are still not available. > > -- > > Dale Erwin > > Strange, I've just tested it here with a second profile and it worked perfectly. > What did it do when you told it to import address.htm? The file selection dialog comes up and I select the 2.02 address.htm file and click OK. The dialog box goes away, the menu closes, and for all you know it worked, but it didn't. > > Does the 4.61 address book contain anything? It contains 5 addresses that I have added from within Netscape after the import failed. > > > Can you open your 2.02 address.htm correctly as a normal HTML file in the 4.61 > browser? Yes, opens just fine. > > It should show the names in your address book and when you put the cursor > over a name it should show you something like:- > mailto:somebody@somenode.somedomain. > in the status line. > > Also what do you have in your ...\users\erwin directory? > Does the address book still work OK under 2.02? Yes. > > > Or perhaps. if the 2.02 address.htm looks OK, you could see if you can set up > another profile and try to import address.htm into that. I'll try. > > -- > Dave --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Erwin Technology Corporation (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: derwin@airmail.net 24-Oct-99 06:05:00 To: All 24-Oct-99 10:19:13 Subj: Re: Now that I have Netscape 4.61 From: Dale Erwin Dale Erwin wrote: > Dave Parsons wrote: > > > X-Newsreader: ProNews/2 Version 1.50 1 > > > > On Sat, 23 Oct 1999 14:20:43, Dale Erwin wrote: > > > > > Dave Parsons wrote: > > > > > > > From the Navigator main window select:- > > > > Communicator->Address Book > > > > From the address book window select:- > > > > File->Import > > > > and use the file selector to import your NS 2.02 address.htm directly. > > > > > > > > NC 4.61 does not use the html format but it can import from an HTML file. > > > > Your new address book is called pab.na2. > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Dave > > > > > > Thanks for the info, Dave. However, I can't seem to get it to work. After doing > > > what you say, > > > the 2.02 addresses are still not available. > > > -- > > > Dale Erwin > > > > Strange, I've just tested it here with a second profile and it worked perfectly. > > What did it do when you told it to import address.htm? > > The file selection dialog comes up and I select the 2.02 address.htm file and click OK. > > The dialog box goes away, the menu closes, and for all you know it worked, but it > didn't. > > > > > Does the 4.61 address book contain anything? > > It contains 5 addresses that I have added from within Netscape after the import failed. > > > > > > > Can you open your 2.02 address.htm correctly as a normal HTML file in the 4.61 > > browser? > > Yes, opens just fine. > > > > > It should show the names in your address book and when you put the cursor > > over a name it should show you something like:- > > mailto:somebody@somenode.somedomain. > > in the status line. > > > > Also what do you have in your ...\users\erwin directory? > > Does the address book still work OK under 2.02? > > Yes. > > > > > > > Or perhaps. if the 2.02 address.htm looks OK, you could see if you can set up > > another profile and try to import address.htm into that. > > I'll try. I created a new user profile and opened Netscape as the new user. I tried to import the same 2.02 address book, and exactly the same thing happened: nothing. No complaints, no nothing, > > > > > > -- > > Dave --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Erwin Technology Corporation (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: fledermaus@attglobal.net 24-Oct-99 07:46:26 To: All 24-Oct-99 14:29:20 Subj: Re: How to Transfer File with serial port? 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Questions can be sent to:  tulloch@modempool.com --------------D6BB26A4BF5EB17E7FF1FEA5-- --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: A poorly-installed InterNetNews site (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: mwalsh1@elp.rr.com 24-Oct-99 09:16:24 To: All 24-Oct-99 14:29:21 Subj: Re: Instructions: How To Build An OS/2 Computer From: "Matt Walsh" I got my last one from Indelible Blue who let me configure it and did the Warp install perfectly for me. For a fair price. On Sat, 23 Oct 1999 22:22:28 GMT, jwelton@my-deja.com wrote: >Is there a an OS/2 web site that offers instructions or >guidelines for building my own OS/2-compatible computer? > >I'd really like to go to a site that offered me step-by-step >instructions for building my own computer specifically for OS/2. >You know, offer me as many web addresses for as possible for >ordering the specific hardware needed so I could get the best >buys possible. Once all the parts are received I could ten >relog on to the site and walk through a step-by-step process >of putting the hardware together and then installing my base >Warp 4 system. Follow that by installing all the latest updates. > >If such a site is available this would be a great help to those >of us "do it yourselfers" or to other bright OS/2 entrepreneurs >who we could contract with to put such a system together. > >If such a site existed then anyone could sit down and create >they own system. Once built they could advertise it for sale >and create a new system, constantly updating their knowledge >and the OS/2 systems they offer. I'd jumpt at the chance to >buy a system from some knowledgeable OS/2 entrepreneur who >said: "Pay me three so and so bucks then buy the necessary >hardware (parts) and I'll put together the best OS/2 system >I can based upon the parts you buy." > >That would be great! Is there such a site and if not, why >not? > >Here's hopin' > >Jeff > > >Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ >Before you buy. Matt Walsh El Paso, TX Computin' & Shootin' in the dust. --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Time Warner Communications, El Paso TX (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: bv@mail.bv.no 24-Oct-99 16:03:08 To: All 24-Oct-99 14:29:21 Subj: Re: Multiprocessor Support From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Bj=F8rn?= Vermo "David T. Johnson" wrote: > > > A little off-topic but what is the advantage of dual P300's over a > single PIII 600 Mhz or Athlon 700 Mhz? There is no advantage. SMP is useful when the fastest processor in the world is not fast enough, or when many slower processors plus the added cost of an SMP board plus the cost of the SMP software come cheaper than the fastest processor. Usually, true SMP is only desirable in very high end equipment. An SMP motherboard is dramatically more expensive than a single processor one. There is a "poor man's SMP' - Dual Processor. It is fairly easy to design a board (or an operating system) for, so they are relatively cheap. With the premium you will have to pay for the newest top-end processor, it can easily be cheaper to buy a DP board and two reasonably priced processors. They will also be supported by cheap (like Linux) operating systems, and the NT client will support DP quite well. The OS/2 SMP servers are optimized for the high-end SMP systems (up to 64 processors), but work perfectly with DP systems. With NT, you can purchase server versions which support more than two processors. The price increases in steps with the number of processors. Scaling is fairly good, but not up to WSeB standards. With Linux and some free UNIXes, you have theoretical support for SMP but the efficiency is poor when the number of processors is increased beyond two. With commercial UNIX, you get what you pay for. --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Norbionics (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: bv@mail.bv.no 24-Oct-99 17:19:29 To: All 24-Oct-99 14:29:21 Subj: Re: what brand and model PC today to buy for OS/2 ? From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Bj=F8rn?= Vermo Zeus Paleologos wrote: > > - brand name equipment and, I might add, of proven technology > and reliability. Indeed, reliability might be my number 1 > requirement. OK - IBM (real thing, not the Aptiva) are reliable beyond the obsolescence point. The IBM PC-xxx comes in models with OS/2, while the servers come in versions with no OS (or even with no disk installed). The Intellistation series does not support OS/2 well. Siemens seem to be reliable. Compaq used to be more reliable than any, but seem to have faded. Besides, they have often had compatibility problems. So has Hewlett-Packard, who otherwise have an excellent track record for reliability. > > 1 - Regarding OS/2, does it matter whether I choose a PC model with > a Celeron, Pentium II or Pentium III processor ? Not a bit, unless you will do database work or suchlike which Intel have tried to make the Celeron less suitable for. > > 2 - Does OS/2 handle large ( > 2GBytes) HDD's ? I understand it is a > major headache to configure a PC and partition a large HDD today > to allow the booting and running of either Win98, Linux, or OS/2 > on the same unit. Any high-reliability and high-performance configuration should use SCSI. Then the client version of OS/2 will at least handle 512GB drives if you split them into 64GB partitions. The server handles 2TB partitions. With ATA-drives, you will always have a can of worms. They are available in cheaper versions than the SCSI drives, but if you want high reliability the price difference dwindles. The ATA-standard is a cludge upon a cludge upon a cludge to use the old AT-bus as a disk drive interface. It works rather well, but every year there is a new standard which needs new drivers in order to support the newest drives. Running several systems on the same unit does not go well with 24/7 operation. It might be a better idea to retain the old system for use with the less used OSes, and as extra resources in a network. To boot multiple systems from a drive, the BIOS must be able to access it in real mode. That means that every actual boot partition must be within the first 1024 (translated) cylinders. It alsomeans that none of the systems may use any nonstandard disk mapping drivers. > > 4 - Should I plan on installing Warp 4 on whatever I get or will > Warp 3 still be a possibility ? > Warp 3 is a possibility if the current level does what you need, but you should not expect much in the way of future fixes except for the server functions. > > 5 - Is OS/2 support available for the range and kinds of peripherals > in variety that I have indicated I will eventually add to my system? OS/2 support for heavy-duty, high-reliability equipment is excellent, and seems to be improving all the time. If you will eventually want to add new low-end or typical home-user peripherals, you will risk that it either does not work at all or that only a subset is supported. --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Norbionics (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: bv@mail.bv.no 24-Oct-99 16:38:20 To: All 24-Oct-99 14:29:21 Subj: Re: Latest version of os2??!! From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Bj=F8rn?= Vermo Zeus Paleologos wrote: > > Just curious, but what is the difference between Client and Server > versions? The server is fundamentally a client with some extras. Most of it has to do with multiuser (client) support with security, management, and error monitoring. A Warp server consists of the base OS, networking, 32-bit TCP/IP. backup, NFS, PPP server, a client install CD and management software, and some extra utilities. The current version includes the fast, high-capacity JFS file system and SMP. It also comes with one of the best baxkup systems available on any operating system. The problem with the server is that it seems expensive for somebody with small needs, but it includes things which cost extra on other systems. A 5-client NT server is slightly cheaper, but you will probably not want to make do with the rudimentary backup software that comes with it --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Norbionics (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: jwelton@my-deja.com 24-Oct-99 15:59:06 To: All 24-Oct-99 14:29:21 Subj: Re: Instructions: How To Build An OS/2 Computer From: jwelton@my-deja.com In article <7utu03$kn6$1@nnrp1.deja.com>, hunters@thunder.indstate.edu wrote: > In article <7utcf3$9gb$1@nnrp1.deja.com>, > jwelton@my-deja.com wrote: > > > Is there a an OS/2 web site that offers instructions or > > guidelines for building my own OS/2-compatible computer? > > > > Well, there's not really much of a trick to it. A good place to start > is at the hardware vendor of your choice; just start picking the > hardware you want. Then check your list against this page: > > The OS/2 Deice Driver Pack Online > http://service.software.ibm.com/os2ddpak/html/index.htm > > And I think you'll be pleasantly surprised. :) Maybe I'm not making myself clear. What I'd like, and I'm sure many others too, would be a clear set of page by page instructions and guides from another OS/2 user who has put together a great OS/2 Warp system(s). The visitor could go to a web page and select one of several systems to build. Everything from the cheapest barest system to a top-of-the -line power machine. The user selects the system he wants to build and follows the page by page instructions. I want to build the system myself and save the labor and hardware markup costs that a commercial vendor would charge. I recently sent my system in for repair and was charged $400 for a new 10.2 Gig hard drive. The repair people were lost at how to install OS/2 on such a system and I spent more time telling and directing them than I should have had to do. They promised to repair the system and return it within 24 hours but it took a week and all they did was slap a new hard drive in the system. I could have done that and did soon after I got the drive partitioned and OS/2 back on the system. I bought another 10.2Gig drive and installed it as a slave raising my hard disk space from 6Gig to 20Gig. The repair people charged me an enormous price for labor and a high markup for the hardware they installed AND they kept my system away from me for a full week and returned it with NO operating system. I'm an absolute novice when it comes to computers but building my own system would change that and give me a better understanding of how they work from a hardware viewpoint. I'm a college student barely making ends meet. > OS/2 doesn't really require any real pickyness reguarding hardware > anymore (with the exception of soundcards, most (but not all) PPort > scanners/removable media drives, and many (but not all) USB devices). This is exactly what I mean. Rather than spending countless hours seeking out help for the best soundcard, the most successful scanner, RM drives, etc., is there a site that will say something like, "for the system you are building you have three choices of sound cards. (1) Sound Card One, (2) Two, and (3) Three. Click on the card you can afford or want and order it online or note the specs/brand needed for purchasing from your local computer store. If you now have the card follow these instructions for installing it on your system..." > I base this claim, of course, on the upcoming IBM licensed version of > SciTech Display Doctor for OS/2, which will effectively make OS/2 the > equal (envy perhaps?) of other OSes in reguards to video card > drivers. One of the main reasons why I'd like to build my own system stems from the product above. It totally ruined my system and cost me over $400 in repair costs and more than two weeks of my own labor putting my system back together. Yes, I know the version I installed and tried was advertised as a "Preview" version but I believed it was safe, after all it was a PREVIEW and no mention of BETA was made. There has been much hype about IBM licensing SDD and this led me to believe it must be an important and helpful product. I had no idea it would screw up my monitor/display and delete my S3 drivers completely. At most, I figured when installed it would check my display/monitor, tell me it could (or couldn not) be improved through various settings and ask if I wanted those settings/drivers tried. The program didn't do that at all. It destroyed my ability to view my system and when uninstalled it not only returned me to VGA mode but deleted my previous S3 updated drivers. But it did more damage than that. I tried turning to my college buddies but could find no one familiar enough with OS/2 or who cared enough or even wanted to try offering assistance. "That's OS/2 for ya... you should get a 'real' operating system like NT..." I don't know what portion of SDD IBM is buying into and why they are doing so. My experience with the well publicized 'Preview' version of SDD has sworn me off of ever trying anything but a commercial release of any program. I will wait until others have tried it, have similar hardware as myself, and I feel confident enough to take the chance. I had a great OS/2 system and it is still not back to what it was before installing SDD. > Good luck! Thank you for your response. Good dialog is important and the only way we all learn new things. > -- > -Steven Hunter *OS/2 Warp 4 * | > hunters@thunder.indstate.edu *AMD K6-2 400* | Jeff Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy. --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Deja.com - Before you buy. (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: rjfreem@ibm.net 24-Oct-99 09:46:10 To: All 24-Oct-99 16:44:17 Subj: Re: os2 installation troubles From: rjfreem@ibm.net In <3812AD25.61A3819@nwlink.com>, on 10/23/99 at 11:54 PM, joseph said: Download idedasd from http://www3.software.ibm.com/os2ddpak/html/C58F9C5A903C33178625665900593E36.htm l Follow the readme as to how to install the drivers which are necessary to access the hard drive. You will need 7 or 8 megs of free space at the beginning of the hard drive for Boot Manager, a utility which will allow you to boot the desired OS. Don't waste your time with 2.1. You will need to apply the latest fixpack to Warp 3 available from http://ps.software.ibm.com/pbin-usa-ps/getobj.pl?/pdocs-usa/softupd.html The fixpack is essential. An easy method for upgrading all components of the base OS is to obtain the CD Warp-up from indelible-blue.com for $19. RJF >Here's my scenario: I found an unopened copy of os2 2.1 at 1/2 price >books for 19.98. I also got an unopened copy of warp 3 upgrade for 7.98. >Pretty good deal? I've never used os2, but it intrigues me. I also >have freebsd and linux-mandrake installed. There is 5500Mb free at the >beginning of the hd, and when I try to install 2.1, I get an "fdisk >unsuccessful". Incidentally, I have to use the warp installation disks >because the ones that came with 2.1 don't recognize my cdrom, a generic >ide/atapi. If I remove the 2.1 cd and pop in the warp cd, I can get the >fdisk to run, but it only sees 95Mb available on the drive. I've tried >different things. I've used fdisk under linux to create different types >of partitions, such as fat16, hpfs, hidden os2, and I've tried it with >the partition deleted. No luck whatever I do. >So, what can I do? I've tried to create my own install disk directly >from the cd, thinking the problem could be in the disk. I wasn't able to >quite pull it off under linux. I used the dd command to copy the files. >I don't know why, but it didn't work. Anyhow, I wonder if the install >disks are even the problem. Could it be hardware incompatibility? My >hard drive is a maxtor $200 special, 20 gigs, 7200 rpm, udma66. More >likely, I think it could be the bios settings. Does anyone out there >have any info that could help me get this thing up and running? >Is os2 still being developed by ibm? Do they plan to continue releases? >Also, and I know this question comes a little early for me, where can I >get warp 4 and what does it cost? -- ----------------------------------------------------------- rjfreem@ibm.net ----------------------------------------------------------- --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Global Network Services - Remote Access Mail & Ne (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: piquant00@uswestmail.net 24-Oct-99 14:44:19 To: All 24-Oct-99 16:44:17 Subj: Re: os2 installation troubles From: piquant00@uswestmail.net (Annie K.) On Sun, 24 Oct 1999 06:54:29, joseph wrote: :Here's my scenario: I found an unopened copy of os2 2.1 at 1/2 price :books for 19.98. I also got an unopened copy of warp 3 upgrade for :7.98. Pretty good deal? For Warp 3, yes. For 2.1, no. :I've never used os2, but it intrigues me. I :also have freebsd and linux-mandrake installed. There is 5500Mb free at :the beginning of the hd, and when I try to install 2.1, I get an "fdisk :unsuccessful". Incidentally, I have to use the warp installation disks :because the ones that came with 2.1 don't recognize my cdrom, a generic :ide/atapi. Of course it doesn't. Have you looked at the date on the box? Even Warp 3 came out just shortly before the ATAPI standard was finalized, so if you want to install Warp 3, you'll need to update copies of its install floppies first or you'll get the same error. See ftp://ftp.software.ibm.com/ps/products/os2/os2ddpak/idedasd.exe :If I remove the 2.1 cd and pop in the warp cd, I can get the :fdisk to run, but it only sees 95Mb available on the drive. I've tried :different things. I've used fdisk under linux to create different types :of partitions, such as fat16, hpfs, hidden os2, and I've tried it with :the partition deleted. No luck whatever I do. Not at all surprising. :So, what can I do? Forget 2.1, and install Warp 3. Warp 3, unlike 2.1 can be updated to Y2K-compliancy by installing its most recent fixpak; 2.1 will never be Y2K-compliant. :I've tried to create my own install disk directly :from the cd, thinking the problem could be in the disk. I wasn't able :to quite pull it off under linux. I used the dd command to copy the :files. I don't know why, but it didn't work. Anyhow, I wonder if the :install disks are even the problem. Could it be hardware :incompatibility? My hard drive is a maxtor $200 special, 20 gigs, 7200 :rpm, udma66. More likely, I think it could be the bios settings. Does :anyone out there have any info that could help me get this thing up and :running? :Is os2 still being developed by ibm? Not the client version, no; although they do still release fixpaks and other updates for it. :Do they plan to continue :releases? Also, and I know this question comes a little early for me, :where can I get warp 4 and what does it cost? Best place is Ebay, or one of the other online auction sites. Or haunt comp.os.os2.marketplace. -- Klaatu barada nikto --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Team OS/2 (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: kimwaicSpamGoToGarbage@deltanet.com 24-Oct-99 10:20:00 To: All 24-Oct-99 16:44:17 Subj: Re: Multiprocessor Support From: "Kim Cheung" On Sun, 24 Oct 1999 16:03:16 +0200, Bj rn Vermo wrote: >"David T. Johnson" wrote: > >> > >> A little off-topic but what is the advantage of dual P300's over a >> single PIII 600 Mhz or Athlon 700 Mhz? > >There is no advantage. SMP is useful when the fastest processor in the world is not fast enough, or when many slower processors plus the >added cost of an SMP board plus the cost of the SMP software come cheaper than the fastest processor. I disagree. Any heavily threaded program benefits tremendously from SMP - even with dual processor. On the 325 that I have, you can see the obvious effect. The problem with doing it under other non-thread centric OS is that they use it for loosely coupled multi-processing and for that you don't get as much benefit from SMP. --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: TouchVoice Corporation (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: dcasey@ibm.net 24-Oct-99 12:29:05 To: All 24-Oct-99 16:44:17 Subj: Re: cincyteamos2? From: dcasey@ibm.net (Dan Casey) In article , Dale Erwin wrote: > >The DFW user group also appears to have faded out of existence. It went >steadily downhill after >Jim Stuyck retired. When I was in Los Angeles, the LA group was a waste of >time. The SCOUG >is, of course, VERY fine, but it was a 90-mile drive for me. > >So here I am feeling sequestered from the OS/2 community except for these >ngs. >-- >Dale Erwin >Dallas, Texas Dale, you can always join VOICE (Virtual OS/2 International Consumer Education). We're an Online User Group (Virtual) and meet in IRC on the 1st and 3rd Monday of each month. One of the reasons VOICE was founded was for users who had no local OS/2 User Group. You don't have to be a member to join the meetings. Go to: http://www.os2voice.org And flow the links to Meeting Info. There, you'll find links to a list of WEBBnet IRC Servers, Links to download freeware or Shareware IRC Clients, and links to instructions on getting started with IRC (Internet Relay Chat). -- ************************************************************** * Dan Casey * * President * * V.O.I.C.E. (Virtual OS/2 International Consumer Education * * http://www.os2voice.org * * Abraxas on IRC * * http://members.iquest.net/~dcasey * * Charter Associate member, Team SETI * * Warpstock 99 in Atlanta http://www.warpstock.org * ************************************************************** * E-Mail (subject: Req. PGP Key) for Public Key * ************************************************************** --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: V.O.I.C.E., Indianapolis, IN (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: spam_free_norrisg@linkline.com 24-Oct-99 10:47:01 To: All 24-Oct-99 16:44:17 Subj: Re: Multiprocessor Support From: "Graham C. Norris" John Hong wrote: > > Graham C. Norris (spam_free_norrisg@linkline.com) wrote: > > : Oh, it was *advantages* you were looking for ... er, the original Win95 > : will boot, whereas it won't with a 350 or faster CPU. > > Not exactly, this is particular to the AMD K6-2/3 line. I have a > Celeron 366Mhz that installed/booted/ran Windows 95 OSR2 fine without the > AMD K6 350Mhz update. Note that I said *the original Win95*. OSR2 is *NOT* the original. Graham. --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: alessandro.carini@don't.spam.here 24-Oct-99 18:50:09 To: All 24-Oct-99 16:44:17 Subj: www.warpstock.de From: "Alessandro Carini" Anybody knows how to contact the warpstock.de webmaster to inform him that the link in the page Qualcuno sa come contattare il webmaster di warpstock per segnalare che alla loro pagina http://www.warpstock.de/sessions99.en.html Nella sezione In section Sessions and Workshops Lead to a phisical drive Z instead of an url. Puntano ad un drive fisico alessandro.carini@usa.net - http://users.iol.it/alessandro.carini/ pgp key available --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: [Infostrada] (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: rl3s@netcom2.netcom.com 24-Oct-99 18:12:15 To: All 24-Oct-99 16:44:17 Subj: Re: what brand and model PC today to buy for OS/2 ? From: Zeus Paleologos In article <3813239D.326666E9@mail.bv.no> on Sun, 24 Oct 1999 17:19:59 +0200, Bj?rn Vermo wrote: > OK - IBM (real thing, not the Aptiva) are reliable beyond the obsolescence > point. Thank you for your informative response. I have an IBM 486/33 Ultimedia PC that has been running for 6 years (24/7). I had to replace the power supply last month but that is still pretty good. But please explain what you mean when you say that Aptiva is not the real thing. Also, are any of the retail outlets in the US likely to carry the real thing? Is anyone aware of a number at IBM where they could tell me who in my area would stock these products? Thanks again. --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: MindSpring Enterprises (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: hunters@thunder.indstate.edu 24-Oct-99 19:13:26 To: All 24-Oct-99 16:44:17 Subj: Interesting TrueType tid-bit... From: hunters@thunder.indstate.edu Hmmmm... Hex-edit (or just open in e.exe) a TrueType Font file... Anyone else see some interesting text in there? :) I've checked some TTF files on other people's computers, and it's the same thing. Fonts that OS/2 doesn't even know I have, also have this. What the heck is up with that?? -- -Steven Hunter *OS/2 Warp 4 * | hunters@thunder.indstate.edu *AMD K6-2 400* | Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy. --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Deja.com - Before you buy. (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: mcbrides@erols.com 24-Oct-99 16:11:08 To: All 24-Oct-99 19:49:27 Subj: Re: Interesting TrueType tid-bit... From: mcbrides@erols.com (Jerry McBride) In article <7uvlpg$nur$1@nnrp1.deja.com>, hunters@thunder.indstate.edu wrote: > > >Hmmmm... Hex-edit (or just open in e.exe) a TrueType Font file... > Point one (font file) out and I'll have a look... >Anyone else see some interesting text in there? :) > >I've checked some TTF files on other people's computers, and it's the >same thing. Fonts that OS/2 doesn't even know I have, also have this. > >What the heck is up with that?? > >-- >-Steven Hunter *OS/2 Warp 4 * | >hunters@thunder.indstate.edu *AMD K6-2 400* | > > >Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ >Before you buy. -- ******************************************************************************* * Sometimes, the BEST things in life really ARE free... * * Get a FREE copy of NetRexx 1.151 for your next java project at: * * * * GET IT NOW! WHILE IT'S STILL FREE! * * * * http://www2.hursley.ibm.com/netrexx * ******************************************************************************* /----------------------------------------\ | From the desktop of: Jerome D. McBride | | mcbrides@erols.com | \----------------------------------------/ -- --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: TEAM-NETREXX (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: esther@bitranch.com 24-Oct-99 20:20:11 To: All 24-Oct-99 19:49:27 Subj: Re: cincyteamos2? From: esther@bitranch.com (Esther Schindler) It's a frustrating situation, I know. Back when the Team OS/2 section of the Compuserve OS/2 Forum was "the" place to hang out, I wrote a few long diatribes about the requirement of a user group to charge dues. The ones that don't charge dues fade away. The ones that charge something, however modest, have a much better chance of making it. It has little to do with the group's need for money. I think it's a kind of commitment on the part of the user... you paid something to belong, you might as well show up at the meeting and "get your money's worth." At least you _can_ get to a user group meeting, Dale, even if it's 90 miles away. That's not the case for several members of the Phoenix OS/2 Society... we have members in 19 countries and nearly every U.S. state. (Know any OS/2 users in South Dakota?) --Esther On Sat, 23 Oct 1999 14:30:48, Dale Erwin wrote: | The DFW user group also appears to have faded out of existence. It went | steadily downhill after | Jim Stuyck retired. When I was in Los Angeles, the LA group was a waste of | time. The SCOUG | is, of course, VERY fine, but it was a 90-mile drive for me. | | So here I am feeling sequestered from the OS/2 community except for these | ngs. --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Frontier GlobalCenter Inc. (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net 24-Oct-99 20:21:10 To: All 24-Oct-99 19:49:27 Subj: Re: Floppy problems From: doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net (Doug Bissett) On Sun, 24 Oct 1999 01:45:09, lifedata@xxvol.com wrote: > James Moe said: > > > Have you tried using a cleaning disk on the drive(s)? I seem to > >recall having this sort of problem and cleaning fixed it. If the drive sits > >idle for looooong time, crud builds up on the heads and effect their > >sensitivity. > > Well, I think you may have hit on the answer. I haven't cleaned a floppy drive > in years. Thanks for the reminder. > > Jim L > Remove XX from address to Email > Crooks and kooks will get guns regardless of laws. > > Having used PCs, since 1981, and having worked in the service end of the computer business (not, specifically with PCs, but I did get involved with the tougher problems sometimes), I will make two statements about cleaning diskette drives. 1) DON'T DO IT. 2) If you do clean one, clean it often, since it will get dirty. I have an old machine (1981 IBM PC, the ORIGINAL). The diskette drive (single sided 5 1/4 inch) has NEVER been cleaned, and it still works, with no indication af any problems. In fact, the only time I ever saw anybody with intermittant diskette problems (most just quit working when they fail), was when they cleaned them. I NEVER clean diskette drives, and I have NEVER had a problem with one. Take from that, what you will... ****************************** From the PC of Doug Bissett doug.bissett at attglobal.net The " at " must be changed to "@" ****************************** --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Global Network Services - Remote Access Mail & Ne (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net 24-Oct-99 20:21:11 To: All 24-Oct-99 19:49:27 Subj: Re: Multiprocessor Support From: doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net (Doug Bissett) On Sat, 23 Oct 1999 15:31:51, "David T. Johnson" wrote: > Richard Hanson wrote: > > > > Quick question: Does OS/2 Warp v.4 support dual processors? I was thinking of installing it on a Tyan Tomcat 4.02 with dual P300's. > > > A little off-topic but what is the advantage of dual P300's over a > single PIII 600 Mhz or Athlon 700 Mhz? You know, that is a very difficult question, and there is no real answer. It depends on so many variables, that one user might find that (s)he gets a real performance boost (over a single processor), and another will find performance degradation. Way back, in 1968, I worked on an old IBM mainframe (the 2065, for those who might remember), which had a multiple processor configuration (2). The MP was found to perform anywhere from 2 to 5 times what a single (identical) processor could do (in a production environment). A lot of research was done, to try to figure this out, but I think the analysis was faulty, or they never did figure it out, because more modern multiprocessor systems performed somewhere less than 2 over a single processor. I have no idea how these numbers relate to the PC, but I suspect that they are similar. Then there is the operating system. Properly designed, and multithreaded, like OS/2, it will do much better than something that doesn't have the ability to assign work to the processors in such a way that it can keep them busy. Then there are the programs running under the OS. If they are properly designed, and mutithreaded, so the OS has something to work with, they can make a tremendous difference to performance. So, yes, two processors can outrun a single (twice as fast) processor, but only if the configuration is correct. I suspect that, even with other things being optimal, that a single 600 mhz processor will outrun dual 300 mhz processors, just because there is less overhead to dispatch the job stream. Hope this helps... ****************************** From the PC of Doug Bissett doug.bissett at attglobal.net The " at " must be changed to "@" ****************************** --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Global Network Services - Remote Access Mail & Ne (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: jdc0014@InfoNET.st-johns.nf.ca 24-Oct-99 20:14:20 To: All 24-Oct-99 19:49:27 Subj: Re: what brand and model PC today to buy for OS/2 ? From: jdc0014@InfoNET.st-johns.nf.ca (John Hong) Zeus Paleologos (rl3s@netcom2.netcom.com) wrote: : But please explain what you mean when you say that Aptiva is : not the real thing. IBM does not make the Aptiva's, they are actually Acer clone's with the IBM badge on them. --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: St. John's InfoNET (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net 24-Oct-99 20:21:12 To: All 24-Oct-99 19:49:27 Subj: Re: os2 installation troubles From: doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net (Doug Bissett) On Sun, 24 Oct 1999 06:54:29, joseph wrote: > Here's my scenario: I found an unopened copy of os2 2.1 at 1/2 price > books for 19.98. I also got an unopened copy of warp 3 upgrade for > 7.98. Pretty good deal? No, and yes... OS/2 2.1, is obsolete, and cannot be upgraded to be Y2K compliant. Warp3 is useful. You should be able to install it, without having the older version installed. >I've never used os2, but it intrigues me. I > also have freebsd and linux-mandrake installed. There is 5500Mb free at > the beginning of the hd, and when I try to install 2.1, I get an "fdisk > unsuccessful". Incidentally, I have to use the warp installation disks > because the ones that came with 2.1 don't recognize my cdrom, a generic > ide/atapi. You might as well throw 2.1 in the garbage, but it does make the warp3 upgrade legal, so you may want to just put it at the back of a shelf somewhere. > If I remove the 2.1 cd and pop in the warp cd, I can get the > fdisk to run, but it only sees 95Mb available on the drive. I've tried > different things. I've used fdisk under linux to create different types > of partitions, such as fat16, hpfs, hidden os2, and I've tried it with > the partition deleted. No luck whatever I do. You need the IDE driver update, to support disks larger than 4.3 gig (this should support your CD-ROM, as well), for starters. Go to http://service.software.ibm.com/os2ddpak/html/index.htm and find the file IDEDASD.EXE (you will find it in many places), which is a self extracting file and has instructions in it. > So, what can I do? I've tried to create my own install disk directly > from the cd, thinking the problem could be in the disk. I wasn't able > to quite pull it off under linux. I used the dd command to copy the > files. I don't know why, but it didn't work. There are two BAT files, and two CMD files (for OS/2) on the CD. One of the BAT (CMD) files will produce a set of 3 install diskettes, the other will create a complete set of diskettes, so you can install from diskettes, rather than from the CD (if you don't have a CD drive). The BAT files run under DOS (and, perhaps other compatible systems), the CMD files are for OS/2. >Anyhow, I wonder if the > install disks are even the problem. Could it be hardware > incompatibility? My hard drive is a maxtor $200 special, 20 gigs, 7200 > rpm, udma66. More likely, I think it could be the bios settings. Does > anyone out there have any info that could help me get this thing up and > running? Hopefully, someone can help... You need to give us a little more information, size, and type, off hard disk, type of CD-ROM, type of modem, type of processor, type of sound card, type of video card, etc. As well as how you have your disk partitions set up, and anything else that you think might have anything to do with installing the software. Also, tell us which version of warp3 you got (Red box, Blue box, Connect). I also suggest that you go to the OS/2 supersite, and look around in the New User links. There is a LOT of good information in there. > Is os2 still being developed by ibm? Do they plan to continue > releases? Also, and I know this question comes a little early for me, > where can I get warp 4 and what does it cost? IBM has, recently, released OS/2 for e-business, which seems to be an updated warp4 server version, but it is not geared toward the home, or small business, user. They are also, actively releasing (apparently quarterly) fix packs for warp3 server version(???) (which can be applied to warp3, with a work around, that is available), and warp4. Support for warp3 client version, apparently, is over after fix pack 40 (not all that old, and it does update warp3 to be Y2K compliant). The bad news is that IBM doesn't seem to want any SOHO (Small Office, Home Office), or home, users. All they want are the big corporations for OS/2 customers, and it is almost impossible to get any kind of assistance, or support, out of them (unless you are rich, and can afford to buy a, very expensive, service contract). On the good side, there is a lot of good support in these news groups. I expect that your more immediate concern would be "HOW" to install warp3 on your system. This could be a problem, since you will, probably, need to install the OS/2 Boot manager, which must be completely within the first 1023 cylinders of your drive, and the OS/2 boot partition must, also, be completely within the first 1023 cylinders of your drive (the machine's BIOS must be able to read the partitions). Since you also have other operating systems, you may not have your disk set up in such a way that this is possible. More details, may get you some good suggestions. As for warp4, Look for that at e-bay, or at Indelible Blue (http://www.indelible-blue.com/). Warp4 doesn't really have a lot of things that are new, and warp3 with the latest fix pack, does have about 90% (or more) of the, usefull, warp4 stuff. I would not worry about warp4, until you try warp3, and decide you want to use some of the things that are unique to warp4. Plug and Play may be a problem. Warp3 does not support PnP, warp4 does. Once you get warp3 installed, and updated to the latest fix pack, you will have MANY more questions. Be prepared for a fairly steep learning experience (although that should not be a real problem), and be sure to run through the tutorial, and read through the help sections. OS/2 is very similar to DOS, at the command line level, and it is very similar to Windows at the GUI level, but it does have a LOT of things that are very different. Hope this helps... ****************************** From the PC of Doug Bissett doug.bissett at attglobal.net The " at " must be changed to "@" ****************************** --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Global Network Services - Remote Access Mail & Ne (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: djohnson@isomedia.com 24-Oct-99 13:19:01 To: All 24-Oct-99 19:49:27 Subj: Re: Warp 4, Fixpak 12 / Service Halts From: "David T. Johnson" hamei@pacbell.net wrote: > > >It seems to get much use out of OS/2, you have to install Fixpaks. > > I'd disgree . . if this is your first venture into OS/2 land, I'd put off the fixpacks > for a bit. OS/2 no-fixed runs fine, if you're like me you'll learn enough > in the beginning to want to reinstall with fewer bad choices later anyway. I would go ahead and install the fixpack. It only takes a few minutes and will provide the Y2K update as well. But you are right, the fixpack does not add significant new functionality. The main thing I can think of is the REGEDIT2 function. The system will be a little snappier with the fixpack, however. > > >Syslevel.exe reports the same version number as in Syslevel.os2: > >XR04000. Syslevel.os2 contains many directory and file names. Not all > >of those are present on my machine since I thought I'd wait until after > >applying the Fixpak before attempting to install the sound system and > >MultiMedia features. > > bad idea. the part that needs fixing most is multimedia ! you want the > fixpack to update MMOS2 *for sure*, so you should get the complete > system up and running first (IMHO) then run the Fpack. Actually, you can apply the fixpack and then install MMOS2 later if you want. When you run service.exe (the fixtool), it will see that the service level of the system is updated and will only update the multimedia stuff. If you use fixpack disks, this means you might just need a couple of disks rather than 16 or something like that. > For what it's > worth, I've had the best success with a 'fastkick141.zip' from Hobbes, > DIUNPACK the disk files to a temp directory, use the .cmd program to > do the work of updating. I've also had some *evil* results with that > "such-and-such file on your hard disk is newer" dialog. These days, I > don't care *what* it asks, it all gets updated and I can deal with > "newer files" later if necessary. Had the system refuse to boot again > too many times because the "newer file on the hard drive" wasn't. > Mr Spalten has explained how this works, 'newness' is not the entire > criterion, but the message is misleading. Ignore it ! > > > > >Can anyone suggest where to go from here, or more information I could > >provide to assist a solution? > > advice is cheap, but IMO you should get everything you want to use > installed at base level, use it for a bit like that, then go for the fixpacks. > > the readme's have a lot of information, but you have to read them > pretty carefully to get max understanding. They've been improved > recently, but there's stll a lot to pick up in one sitting, especially if > this is a new system to you. And again, I like the fastkick method, > but there's several to choose from, look over at hobbes and find > one you like. > > > > >thanks > > > > -- > Albert, the Mad Shirt Grinder --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: jstuyck@home.com 24-Oct-99 20:32:24 To: All 24-Oct-99 19:49:27 Subj: Re: cincyteamos2? From: Jim Stuyck Dale Erwin wrote: > > > The DFW user group also appears to have faded out of existence. It went > steadily downhill after > Jim Stuyck retired. When I was in Los Angeles, the LA group was a waste of > time. The SCOUG > is, of course, VERY fine, but it was a 90-mile drive for me. > Er...thanks(?), I think. Actually, there were several factors that led to the demise of the DFW OS/2 User's Group, and a lot of the decline was purely coincidental in that it took place after I stepped down from the leadership of the group. I think the biggest contributor was the change in direction IBM took regarding "OS/2 support." Basically, even *before* I retired, IBM's support was pretty much withdrawn. We did have use of their facilities, free, but the "OS/2 marketing group" was disbanded. There NEVER were dues, we never charged admission, and we ALWAYS had loads of giveaways at our meetings. The freebies probably contributed to the great turnouts we had, month after month. ;-) A little later, the group attempted to hold meetings on Saturday mornings, instead of weekday nights, and that really killed it. The web site, http://www.dfwos2.org , is still there but hasn't been updated in a very long time. Jim Stuyck --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: J. D. Stuyck and Associates -- Retired (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: djohnson@isomedia.com 24-Oct-99 13:32:13 To: All 24-Oct-99 19:49:27 Subj: Re: Multiprocessor Support From: "David T. Johnson" Kim Cheung wrote: > > On Sun, 24 Oct 1999 16:03:16 +0200, Bj rn Vermo wrote: > > >"David T. Johnson" wrote: > > > >> > > >> A little off-topic but what is the advantage of dual P300's over a > >> single PIII 600 Mhz or Athlon 700 Mhz? > > > >There is no advantage. SMP is useful when the fastest processor in the world is not fast enough, or when many slower processors plus the > >added cost of an SMP board plus the cost of the SMP software come cheaper than the fastest processor. > > I disagree. Any heavily threaded program benefits tremendously from SMP - > even with dual processor. On the 325 that I have, you can see the obvious > effect. So are you saying that two 300's are better than one 300 or are you saying that two 300's are better than one Athlon 700? > > The problem with doing it under other non-thread centric OS is that they use > it for loosely coupled multi-processing and for that you don't get as much > benefit from SMP. --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: htravis@ibm.net 24-Oct-99 16:34:12 To: All 24-Oct-99 19:49:27 Subj: Re: Multiprocessor Support From: htravis@ibm.net (Harry Travis) In , on 10/24/99 at 08:21 PM, doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net (Doug Bissett) said: >On Sat, 23 Oct 1999 15:31:51, "David T. Johnson" > wrote: >> Richard Hanson wrote: >> > >> > Quick question: Does OS/2 Warp v.4 support dual processors? I was thinking of installing it on a Tyan Tomcat 4.02 with dual P300's. >> > >> A little off-topic but what is the advantage of dual P300's over a >> single PIII 600 Mhz or Athlon 700 Mhz? >You know, that is a very difficult question, and there is no real >answer. It depends on so many variables, that one user might find that >(s)he gets a real performance boost (over a single processor), and >another will find performance degradation. >Way back, in 1968, I worked on an old IBM mainframe (the 2065, for >those who might remember), which had a multiple processor >configuration (2). The MP was found to perform anywhere from 2 to 5 >times what a single (identical) processor could do (in a production >environment). A lot of research was done, to try to figure this out, >but I think the analysis was faulty, or they never did figure it out, >because more modern multiprocessor systems performed somewhere less >than 2 over a single processor. I have no idea how these numbers >relate to the PC, but I suspect that they are similar. Then there is >the operating system. Properly designed, and multithreaded, like OS/2, >it will do much better than something that doesn't have the ability to >assign work to the processors in such a way that it can keep them >busy. Then there are the programs running under the OS. If they are >properly designed, and mutithreaded, so the OS has something to work >with, they can make a tremendous difference to performance. >So, yes, two processors can outrun a single (twice as fast) processor, >but only if the configuration is correct. I suspect that, even with >other things being optimal, that a single 600 mhz processor will >outrun dual 300 mhz processors, just because there is less overhead to >dispatch the job stream. This PPRO 200 stand-alone user with a dual processor-board would rather keep the box, add a second processor and VRM (for $120, tops) and send IBM $150 for SMP OS/2 client, if it were available. than I would buy a new 450+. Not even close, in terms of indirect set-up time and data-movement costs. Said many times, it's an IBM-centric corporate no-brainer: >$$$ to IBM <$$$ to Intel or AMD. $000000---->MS. -- ----------------------------------------------------------- htravis@ibm.net (Harry Travis) DemostiX ----------------------------------------------------------- --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Global Network Services - Remote Access Mail & Ne (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: wayne@SPAM.tkb.att.ne.jp 24-Oct-99 13:21:10 To: All 24-Oct-99 19:49:27 Subj: Re: PMMail 2.1? From: "Wayne Bickell" On Thu, 21 Oct 1999 10:29:25 -0400 (EDT), OS/2 Fan wrote: :>Hello all, :>I downloaded PMMail 2.1 and don't really see much of an improvement :>over my 2.0 version; as a matter of fact, I can't see the differences :>at all, other than the complete lack of reference to 2.0 and how :>whether 2.1 is a free update to 2.0 or not... It's not free for 1.9x :>users, but I used a registered 2.0 and 2.1 insisted on ignoring that :>little detail. What are people's impressions of 2.1? Anyone got it :>to upgrade their 2.0 installation successfully? Thanks! Hi, When I ran the install program it detected my 2.0 install and offered to overwrite the existing files. No problems at all. Clicking on help/ about shows my registration details. Cheers Wayne ****************************************************** Wayne Bickell Tokyo, Japan wayne@tkb.att.ne.jp ****************************************************** Posted with PMINews 2 for OS/2 Running on OS/2 Warp 4 (UK) + FixPak 9 ****************************************************** --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: AT&T Internet Service (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: hamei@pacbell.net 24-Oct-99 20:45:21 To: All 24-Oct-99 19:49:27 Subj: Re: Multiprocessor Support From: hamei@pacbell.net In <381342AA.AD7B6785@isomedia.com>, "David T. Johnson" writes: >Kim Cheung wrote: >> >> On Sun, 24 Oct 1999 16:03:16 +0200, Bj rn Vermo wrote: >> >> >"David T. Johnson" wrote: >> > >> >> > >> >> A little off-topic but what is the advantage of dual P300's over a >> >> single PIII 600 Mhz or Athlon 700 Mhz? >> > >> >There is no advantage. SMP is useful when the fastest processor in the world is not fast enough, or when many slower processors plus the >> >added cost of an SMP board plus the cost of the SMP software come cheaper than the fastest processor. >> >> I disagree. Any heavily threaded program benefits tremendously from SMP - >> even with dual processor. On the 325 that I have, you can see the obvious >> effect. > >So are you saying that two 300's are better than one 300 or are you >saying that two 300's are better than one Athlon 700? > Define "better" : then maybe someone can answer the question . . . -- Albert, the Mad Shirt Grinder --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: SBC Internet Services (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: dwparsons@t-online.de 24-Oct-99 23:20:17 To: All 24-Oct-99 19:49:27 Subj: Re: Now that I have Netscape 4.61 From: dwparsons@t-online.de (Dave Parsons) On Sun, 24 Oct 1999 10:05:00, Dale Erwin wrote: > > I created a new user profile and opened Netscape as the new user. I tried to import the > same 2.02 > address book, and exactly the same thing happened: nothing. No complaints, no nothing, > Well I don't know what else to suggest. I have tried it here on another computer and it works perfectly. I know it is not much consolation but I have imported a 2.02 address.htm into a new profile, no problem. I have imported a 2.02 address.htm into an existing 4.61 profile. No problems even when some of the addresses were duplicated. It imported the new ones and did not complain about the duplicates. It would seem that something did not install correctly when you installed 4.61. I'm sorry but I can't tell what from here. You could try to ask Mike Kaply who is currently discussing an address book problem in comp.os.os2.bugs with Jaime in thread 'NS/2 4.61 Address Book'. -- Dave --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: CDL (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: bv@mail.bv.no 24-Oct-99 22:53:04 To: All 24-Oct-99 19:49:27 Subj: Re: os2 installation troubles From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Bj=F8rn?= Vermo joseph wrote: > Here's my scenario: I found an unopened copy of os2 2.1 at 1/2 price > books for 19.98. I also got an unopened copy of warp 3 upgrade for > 7.98. Pretty good deal? Not so sure about the 2.1, but Warp 3 is still a highly useable OS. > I've never used os2, but it intrigues me. I > also have freebsd and linux-mandrake installed. There is 5500Mb free at > the beginning of the hd, and when I try to install 2.1, I get an "fdisk > unsuccessful". I suppose it is not a SCSI drive. The different generations of ATA standards have needed different drivers, and the ones on your 2.1install diskettes is not likely to support newer devices than the ones which existed when it was made. > Incidentally, I have to use the warp installation disks > because the ones that came with 2.1 don't recognize my cdrom, a generic > ide/atapi. The install program will only work with the version it was made for. You can add the ATAPI driver to the 2.1 install diskettes, but I doubt it is really worth the bother. If you want to run 2.1as a curiosity, it ismuch better to do it on a computer of suitable vintage. A 386sx with 12MB RAM and s 40MB disk works fine, more RAM and two disks works better, and a faster CPU is nice but not really requred. The Warp 3 is another matter. It is only just out of service - the last free update for it from IBM came this fall. The server version is still under service. OS/2 is mainly made for professional use, and support for the kind of hardware used in office systems is good. Version 2.1 did not support ATA drives over 500MB, and only a few of the cheaper CD-ROM drives of the time. It had excellent support for SCSI disk drives of at least up to 256GB , and for SCSI CD-ROM drives. Warp 3 has added some more support for CD-ROM drives, an updated ST-506/ATA device driver with ATAPI and LBA support (but it is still necessary to install an upgrade to get support for new, large drives) and support for TCP/IP. In your place, I would install Warp 3 first. Make a 200MB or so logical partition for it in the first 2GB of the drive, and set it installable. I always prefer to have a separate system partition which can be reformatted for a clean new install. Do NOT use "easy install" - it is liable to be the difficult way. and will not perform well. Format your partition to HPFS. When you get the minimum system up and running, you should install a current fixpack. This will bring you up to date with device drivers and support. You should look at old postings in this newsgroup to find out more about how to do this, it has all been explained many times. After you have your Warp 3 up to the current standard, you will be able to understand more of how to install your 2.1 on new equipment. > Is os2 still being developed by ibm? Do they plan to continue > releases? Also, and I know this question comes a little early for me, > where can I get warp 4 and what does it cost? While some complain about lack of support for their pet feature, IBM are developing OS/2 all the time, and are guaranteed to continue for at least two years (since they sell 2-year subscriptions). The newest release was a new server. On the client side, free upgrades for Warp 4 will end at the end of this year. From next year, you will only get access to upgrades with a paid subscription. Fixpacks to fix bugs in the features which exist today will continue to be free up to the end of service date. Existing fixes are, of course, still available after the end of service. You can still download fixes forOS/2 version 1.3, 2.0 and 2.1, but after the cutoff date, new fixes are no longer made. Prices for Warp 4 may vary quite a bit, but it is typically more expensive than Windows 9x but cheaper than NT. You will only need the Warp 4 upgrade version, of course. It is an easy install, and works on an empty partition. When you buy Warp 4 from IBM, it comes with a one-year subscription to new updates from Software Choice. --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Norbionics (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: mckinnis@attglobal.net 24-Oct-99 15:37:29 To: All 24-Oct-99 19:49:27 Subj: Re: How do you expand a partition? From: Chuck McKinnis The text only version (PQMAGICT) shipped with PM OS/2 3.0 is a DOS program. Tarquelne wrote: > > >I have never had a problem with Partition Magic 3.0 (latest fix level) > >when changing and moving partitions. However, the only safe way to run > >it is from a booted DOS diskette. > > A booted _DOS_ disk? Not the OS/2 version of the text-only? > > Tarquelne > > I know how God can make a rock so big He can't move it. > ************************ > Use the address above to reply - not the anti-spam "Reply-to" address > ___________________________________________________________ > "The grasshopper is the only animal I'm afraid of. > I suppose it's a sexual complex."--Salvador Dali. -- Chuck McKinnis Senior Systems Engineer Denver Solutions Group, Inc. IBM Business Partner IBM Senior Systems Engineer (retired) --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Denver Solutions Group (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: JHB@no.spam.jita.demon.co.uk 24-Oct-99 22:14:17 To: All 24-Oct-99 21:21:06 Subj: Re: os2 installation troubles From: JHB@no.spam.jita.demon.co.uk (Jim Backus) On Sun, 24 Oct 1999 06:54:29, joseph wrote: > Here's my scenario: I found an unopened copy of os2 2.1 at 1/2 price > books for 19.98. I also got an unopened copy of warp 3 upgrade for > 7.98. Pretty good deal? I've never used os2, but it intrigues me. os/2 2.1 is now very old. It is not supported any longer and there has been no effort to make it y2k compliant. It had a reputation with some as being the most stable version but unless you want to put it on an old machine with a small HD (see further details later) it's probably not worth the effort. > also have freebsd and linux-mandrake installed. There is 5500Mb free at > the beginning of the hd, and when I try to install 2.1, I get an "fdisk > unsuccessful". When Warp 3 was released HDs bigger than 1 or 2 GB did not exist - at least not for practical purposes. The driver fails to recognise the disk correctly. You need to get a file called (IIRC) IBMDASD.ZIP. start looking at ftp://ftp.software.ibm.com and run down the directories for os/2 looking for device drivers (DD) or fixes. > Is os2 still being developed by ibm? Do they plan to continue > releases? Also, and I know this question comes a little early for me, > where can I get warp 4 and what does it cost? IBM still supports OS/2 Warp 3 and Warp 4. Warp 4 is still made although it may be difficult to find in this wintel dominated world. IIRC IBM has stated that it will go on supporting OS/2 until at least 2004. Jim Backus OS/2 user because it's better bona fide replies to jimb(at)jita(dot)demon(dot)co(dot)uk --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Fourmyle (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: spice@attglobal.net 24-Oct-99 17:29:10 To: All 24-Oct-99 21:21:06 Subj: Re: Interesting TrueType tid-bit... From: Darrell Spice Hmm, I justed check this out on a font in 98 on my Thinkpad. Interesting indeed! :-) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Original Message <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< On 10-24-99, 7:13:53 PM, hunters@thunder.indstate.edu wrote regarding Interesting TrueType tid-bit...: > Hmmmm... Hex-edit (or just open in e.exe) a TrueType Font file... > Anyone else see some interesting text in there? :) > I've checked some TTF files on other people's computers, and it's the > same thing. Fonts that OS/2 doesn't even know I have, also have this. > What the heck is up with that?? > -- > -Steven Hunter *OS/2 Warp 4 * | > hunters@thunder.indstate.edu *AMD K6-2 400* | > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ > Before you buy. --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Global Network Services - Remote Access Mail & Ne (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: jwelton@my-deja.com 25-Oct-99 00:08:03 To: All 25-Oct-99 03:26:08 Subj: Re: Instructions: How To Build An OS/2 Computer From: jwelton@my-deja.com In article , "Matt Walsh" wrote: > I got my last one from Indelible Blue who let me configure it and did the Warp > install perfectly for me. For a fair price. Thanks Matt. My machine also came from Indelible Blue via a previous owner who paid $4,000 for it at the time. Today I see bigger machines at such places as Office Depot, Circuit City, and Sears for prices as low as $1,000. And most importantly many are missing the point. I don't want to call a hardware manufacturer and pay them to put together a machine that I could build for probably 1/4 the cost they will charge me - whether it be Dell or IB. I would like the ability to go to a web site and follow a set of step-by-step instructions for building my own top-notch OS/2 machine. From start to finish. What parts to buy, where to find them, how to install them followed by the OS/2 installation with fixpaks, upgrades, etc., and do it myself. As a novice I'd quickly learn and understand why and what the differences are between a SCSI drive and an IDE drive, why my OS/2 system won't accept a modem quietly marked "For Microsoft operating platforms only", how to make sure all 96 megs of ram are in use, etc. Jeff Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy. --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Deja.com - Before you buy. (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: hunters@thunder.indstate.edu 25-Oct-99 00:13:07 To: All 25-Oct-99 03:26:08 Subj: Re: Interesting TrueType tid-bit... From: hunters@thunder.indstate.edu In article , mcbrides@erols.com (Jerry McBride) wrote: > >Hmmmm... Hex-edit (or just open in e.exe) a TrueType Font file... > > Point one (font file) out and I'll have a look... Anyone'll do. Look in your \os2\mdos\winos2\system directory. Or if you've got Win9x installed, look in \windows\fonts\. -- -Steven Hunter *OS/2 Warp 4 * | hunters@thunder.indstate.edu *AMD K6-2 400* | Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy. --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Deja.com - Before you buy. (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: rsteiner@visi.com 24-Oct-99 19:24:18 To: All 25-Oct-99 03:26:08 Subj: Re: How do you expand a partition? From: rsteiner@visi.com (Richard Steiner) Here in comp.os.os2.misc, lifedata@xxvol.com spake unto us, saying: >rsteiner@visi.com (Richard Steiner) said: > >>I use Partition Magic for that sort of size adjustment > >What version do you have? I still use Partition Magic v2.03.221 because I sometimes do stuff in OS/2 as well as DOS (and v2.x has a nice GUI executable for OS/2). I don't use FAT32 here at all, so I've not needed to upgrade. -- -Rich Steiner >>>---> rsteiner@visi.com >>>---> Bloomington, MN OS/2 + Linux + BeOS + FreeBSD + Solaris + WinNT4 + Win95 + DOS + VMWare + Fusion + vMac + Executor = PC Hobbyist Heaven! :-) Do unto others BEFORE they do unto you! --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: FIELDATA FORTRAN ENTHUSIASTS CLUB (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: rsteiner@visi.com 24-Oct-99 19:32:14 To: All 25-Oct-99 03:26:08 Subj: Re: Modems (again?) From: rsteiner@visi.com (Richard Steiner) Here in comp.os.os2.misc, jeffos2@mindspring.com (Jeffery Swagger) spake unto us, saying: >In <3810963c$1$obot$mr2ice@news.pics.com>, Bob Germer > writes: > >>Bad answer. The answer should be maybe. Not all external modems are true >>modems. Some external modems are USB, not serial port. > >True. However, even when you have a true modem that works with OS/2, >you'll find that the flash upgrade program is Winblows only. FWIW, USR Couriers have text-based flash software which runs in DOS, and which I believe runs just fine in a VDM. They aren't inexpensive, however. -- -Rich Steiner >>>---> rsteiner@visi.com >>>---> Bloomington, MN OS/2 + Linux + BeOS + FreeBSD + Solaris + WinNT4 + Win95 + DOS + VMWare + Fusion + vMac + Executor = PC Hobbyist Heaven! :-) Hi! I'm a tagline virus! Copy me! --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: FIELDATA FORTRAN ENTHUSIASTS CLUB (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: rsteiner@visi.com 24-Oct-99 19:45:10 To: All 25-Oct-99 03:26:08 Subj: Re: os2 installation troubles From: rsteiner@visi.com (Richard Steiner) Here in comp.os.os2.misc, doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net (Doug Bissett) spake unto us, saying: >On Sun, 24 Oct 1999 06:54:29, joseph wrote: > >> Here's my scenario: I found an unopened copy of os2 2.1 at 1/2 price >> books for 19.98. I also got an unopened copy of warp 3 upgrade for >> 7.98. Pretty good deal? > >No, and yes... OS/2 2.1, is obsolete, and cannot be upgraded to be Y2K >compliant. Warp3 is useful. You should be able to install it, without >having the older version installed. Keep in mind that the upgrade version of Warp 3 had a sniffer, meaning at least one file from OS/2 2.1 might be required. A DejaNews search should reveal the name of the file (and the correct subdirectory it should be placed in) to satisfy the sniffer program. -- -Rich Steiner >>>---> rsteiner@visi.com >>>---> Bloomington, MN OS/2 + Linux + BeOS + FreeBSD + Solaris + WinNT4 + Win95 + DOS + VMWare + Fusion + vMac + Executor = PC Hobbyist Heaven! :-) Everyone thinks I'm psychotic except for my friends deep inside the Earth. --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: FIELDATA FORTRAN ENTHUSIASTS CLUB (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: rsteiner@visi.com 24-Oct-99 19:47:24 To: All 25-Oct-99 03:26:08 Subj: Re: Warp 4, Fixpak 12 / Service Halts From: rsteiner@visi.com (Richard Steiner) Here in comp.os.os2.misc, sfgrant@my-deja.com spake unto us, saying: >It seems to get much use out of OS/2, you have to install Fixpaks. It really depends on the hardware you have, I think. I'm using Warp 4 on two systems here, and I've not bothered to install any of the FixPaks yet, but my systems are both SCSI systems. I really should upgrade before the end of the year. ;-) -- -Rich Steiner >>>---> rsteiner@visi.com >>>---> Bloomington, MN OS/2 + Linux + BeOS + FreeBSD + Solaris + WinNT4 + Win95 + DOS + VMWare + Fusion + vMac + Executor = PC Hobbyist Heaven! :-) I'm a Lumberjack and I'm OK! --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: FIELDATA FORTRAN ENTHUSIASTS CLUB (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: rsteiner@visi.com 24-Oct-99 19:50:02 To: All 25-Oct-99 03:26:08 Subj: Re: what brand and model PC today to buy for OS/2 ? From: rsteiner@visi.com (Richard Steiner) Here in comp.os.os2.misc, =?iso-8859-1?Q?Bj=F8rn?= Vermo spake unto us, saying: >OK - IBM (real thing, not the Aptiva) are reliable beyond the obsolescence >point. The IBM PC-xxx comes in models with OS/2, while the servers come in >versions with no OS (or even with no disk installed). The Intellistation >series does not support OS/2 well. Huh. This must have seriously changed in the past few years. One of the boxes I use Warp 4 on here is an IBM IntelliStation Z Pro (the older Z Pro model 6899 based on the PPro/200 processor), and it has been formally certified by IBM to run with both Warp 3 and Warp 4. In my experience, that IntelliStation model runs Warp 4 flawlessly. -- -Rich Steiner >>>---> rsteiner@visi.com >>>---> Bloomington, MN OS/2 + Linux + BeOS + FreeBSD + Solaris + WinNT4 + Win95 + DOS + VMWare + Fusion + vMac + Executor = PC Hobbyist Heaven! :-) Why is common sense is the least common of all senses? --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: FIELDATA FORTRAN ENTHUSIASTS CLUB (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: sma.spam-not@rtd.com 25-Oct-99 01:21:14 To: All 25-Oct-99 03:26:08 Subj: Re: Floppies/Utilities again From: James Moe lifedata@xxvol.com wrote: > > Cleaning the heads on my floppy drive seems to have helped greatly in making > utility disks. However. > > When I try to run the utilities, I get only to disk 2, the third disk. At that > point I get an error I have never heard of before: > > OS/2 is unable to operate your hard disk or diskette drive. The system has > stopped... > > [ ... ] What fixpak level have you applied? If it's fp10 (and maybe fp9), the bootdisk utility is broken. Your best bet is to find a well-praised program called BOOTOS2 (check on Hobbes). I have heard that the problem has been fixed in either fp11 or fp12. (I hae been using disks made from about fp6 or fp8 since I haven't managed to create any functioning ones using fp10.) Basically the error message occurs at a time when the bootup has reached a point where it is ready to use the BASEDEV drivers. Up to that point it has been accessing the disks using very limited, primitive methods (which is why there is a 1024 cylinder limit on bootstrap locations). I think that the required BASEDEV for your boot drive is missing. However, I am onot sure about that part. -- sma at rtd dot com Remove ".spam-not" for email --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Sohnen-Moe Associates, Inc (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: sma.spam-not@rtd.com 25-Oct-99 01:28:23 To: All 25-Oct-99 03:26:08 Subj: Re: Floppy problems From: James Moe Doug Bissett wrote: > > [ ... ] > > Having used PCs, since 1981, and having worked in the service end of > the computer business (not, specifically with PCs, but I did get > involved with the tougher problems sometimes), I will make two > statements about cleaning diskette drives. > 1) DON'T DO IT. > 2) If you do clean one, clean it often, since it will get dirty. > I have found that "it depends." On most of my computers I have never cleaned the floppy drive. In fact, it is only one computer that seems to have the problem, now that I think on it. I have never cleaned a drive that did not show some kind of problem all other methods have failed to correct. Most have never been cleaned, come being close to 10 years old. The particular system has some serious cooling fans in it. I think the fairly high rate of air flow (hence, dust) builds up on the floppy heads, among other places. Blowing out the drive creates a large cloud; the drive always works well after the cleaning disk. -- sma at rtd dot com Remove ".spam-not" for email --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Sohnen-Moe Associates, Inc (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: james.arnold@!!!usa.net 25-Oct-99 01:35:10 To: All 25-Oct-99 03:26:08 Subj: Re: os2 installation troubles From: james.arnold@!!!usa.net In , rsteiner@visi.com (Richard Steiner) writes: >Here in comp.os.os2.misc, doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net (Doug Bissett) >spake unto us, saying: > >>On Sun, 24 Oct 1999 06:54:29, joseph wrote: >> >>> Here's my scenario: I found an unopened copy of os2 2.1 at 1/2 price >>> books for 19.98. I also got an unopened copy of warp 3 upgrade for >>> 7.98. Pretty good deal? >> >>No, and yes... OS/2 2.1, is obsolete, and cannot be upgraded to be Y2K >>compliant. Warp3 is useful. You should be able to install it, without >>having the older version installed. > >Keep in mind that the upgrade version of Warp 3 had a sniffer, meaning >at least one file from OS/2 2.1 might be required. > >A DejaNews search should reveal the name of the file (and the correct >subdirectory it should be placed in) to satisfy the sniffer program. To save you the trouble of searching, the file you need from v2.1 is syslevel.os2. Create an x:\os2\install directory, where x is the drive you want to install to and copy the v2.1 syslevel file there. You will now be ready to install Warp v3. Jim =========================================================================== remove !!! for e-mail James Arnold email: james.arnold@usa.net ICQ: 9719182 Member Toronto OS/2 User Group Brought to you by the letters O S the number 2 and NR/2 =========================================================================== --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Sympatico (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: 2822232030@home.com 25-Oct-99 02:02:24 To: All 25-Oct-99 03:26:08 Subj: Re: Networking 2 home computers... From: Gary Dale <2822232030@home.com> If you are running at 10M bps then you can probably use coaxial ethernet cable. Almost all 10M cards have both coax and twisted pair connectors. If you are wiring up a home or office, then go with Cat 5 twisted pair. Otherwise, a simple coax network avoids the need for a hub. However, it is worth noting that 10M hubs are dirt cheap these days, and even 100M hubs can be reasonable. devlin wrote: > Hub not needed for networking two computers if you use a 4 wire > ethernet cable. > > I am running my two computer network with one NIC card in each and one > 4 wire eithernet cable and it works fantastic! > > Hub only needed if you are going to be connecting more than two. > > On Tue, 24 Aug 1999 00:06:10 -0700, Dane wrote: > > >Philip Wright wrote: > >> > >> A 3COM OfficeConnect 4 port hub is dirt cheap (~$40). > >> Rather than fool with crossover cables I would recommend > >> a hub for simplicity and expandability. > >> > >> Philip Wright > > > >I'll take a $7 Cat 5 crossover cable anyday of the week > >over a $40 hub. Add to it a pair of Pro 100 Ethernet > >cards and you have a very fast network. > > > >-- > >Anti-Spamming measures. To reply to me, remove nospam. > >and ROT-13 my email address: qnar@nospam.fbhguynaq.arg --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: 104 East Avenue, West Hill, Ontario M1C 3P4 (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: Wm D Loughman@MYHOSTNAME.foo.bar 25-Oct-99 02:29:08 To: All 25-Oct-99 03:26:09 Subj: Re: Now that I have Netscape 4.61 From: Wm D Loughman@MYHOSTNAME.foo.bar () In article < Ditto. >, Dale Erwin wrote: [ snip ] >Dave Parsons wrote: [ snip ] >Thanks for the info, Dave. However, I can't seem to get it to work. After doing >what you say, >the 2.02 addresses are still not available. >-- >Dale Erwin >Dallas, Texas May be corrupt. I had a similar?? problem weeks ago with my bookmarks, and lost a sizeable chunk. The devil to re-construct. Just two days ago, cleaning out my disk, I found "bookmark.htm" in dir "TCPIP\TMP". Hunh?? Well, It was the missing piece, perfect as near as I could tell! Now _that's_ *bizarre* !! With pre-loss backups, I tried " copy 'one'+'two' 'three' " to recover. No dice. Navigator has never allowed such tricks, even with Mail 'folders'. It knows the re-joined file isn't its own thing, despite looking okay in a hex editor. I don't know why. I tried Navigator's 'Import' thing in the Bookmark folder. To add the newly discovered (fragment) file to the existing one. It worked! For what it's all worth. ;-> WD "Bill" Loughman "The problem with the gene pool: there is no lifeguard." Berkeley, California USA wdlkhl@attglobal.net --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Global Network Services - Remote Access Mail & Ne (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: lifedata@xxvol.com 24-Oct-99 23:43:02 To: All 25-Oct-99 03:26:09 Subj: Re: Floppies/Utilities again From: lifedata@xxvol.com whonea@codenet.net (Will Honea) said: >This sounds like what I get when I have a bad floppy. Try making new install >disks on new, goo floppies. You may need to do a bit more cleaning as well. >Last time I blew mine clean it looked like a dust storm. Thanks, but I blew this one out very well when I put it in Friday, and I've run the cleaner on it 3 times, and These are brand new Varbatim 2HD 1.44mb disks. Jim L Remove XX from address to Email Crooks and kooks will get guns regardless of laws. --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: bCandid - Powering the world's discussions - http (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: lifedata@xxvol.com 24-Oct-99 23:45:09 To: All 25-Oct-99 03:26:09 Subj: Re: Floppies/Utilities again From: lifedata@xxvol.com James Moe said: >> OS/2 is unable to operate your hard disk or diskette drive. The system has >> stopped... >What fixpak level have you applied? If it's fp10 (and maybe fp9), the >bootdisk utility is broken. I'm running FP 12 and have applied the current idedasd.zip. Your best bet is to find a well-praised program >called BOOTOS2 (check on Hobbes). I have heard that the problem has been fixed I have some BOOTOS2 disks that do load. But I'm trying to get the normal utility disks to make and work. > I think that the required BASEDEV for your boot drive is missing. However, >I am onot sure about that part. Well, that may be. I've been fooling with the problem and it has started putting up an error before it says it can't operate the drive. That is: AIC7870.ADD will not load. I can guess that that has something to do with the "can't operate" error, but it is only guessing. I copied a new copy of aic7870 onto the floppy thinking it might be corrupted. (I've also gone through the whole utility making process at least 7 times today. The new copy didn't help. I removed aic7870 from the config file, but it still tried to load it. The crazy thing is, that is a SCSI driver and I have nothing SCSI on the computer. During the utility making operation I removed both the aic7870.add and the aic7870.snp, but the fool thing copied them (and several other snp files I had deleted during the process back onto the floppy again. I don't have a clue what's going on. Jim L Remove XX from address to Email Crooks and kooks will get guns regardless of laws. --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: bCandid - Powering the world's discussions - http (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: kimwaicSpamGoToGarbage@deltanet.com 24-Oct-99 23:20:14 To: All 25-Oct-99 07:11:25 Subj: Re: Multiprocessor Support From: "Kim Cheung" On Sun, 24 Oct 1999 13:32:26 -0400, David T. Johnson wrote: >Kim Cheung wrote: >> >> On Sun, 24 Oct 1999 16:03:16 +0200, Bj rn Vermo wrote: >> >> >"David T. Johnson" wrote: >> > >> >> > >> >> A little off-topic but what is the advantage of dual P300's over a >> >> single PIII 600 Mhz or Athlon 700 Mhz? >> > >> >There is no advantage. SMP is useful when the fastest processor in the world is not fast enough, or when many slower processors plus the >> >added cost of an SMP board plus the cost of the SMP software come cheaper than the fastest processor. >> >> I disagree. Any heavily threaded program benefits tremendously from SMP - >> even with dual processor. On the 325 that I have, you can see the obvious >> effect. > >So are you saying that two 300's are better than one 300 or are you >saying that two 300's are better than one Athlon 700? > > > >> >> The problem with doing it under other non-thread centric OS is that they use >> it for loosely coupled multi-processing and for that you don't get as much >> benefit from SMP. Yes and no. It depends on what you're doing. In general, any tightly coupled tasks will not benefit from multi-processors. A loosely-coupled tasks benefits tremendously from multiple processors to the point where yes, 2 300s can out perform a single 700. Bear in mind while the CPU is in wait state, a 700 whatever isn't going to be doing much. Take memory refresh for instance. A 700 spends lots of it's CPU cycle in memory refresh. You will find one of the 2 300s taking care of the memory refresh and the other CPU is completely free to pay attention to the user - and you will notice it immediately: the WPS response becomes much faster. Take network support, for instance, Mike Persell at IBM told me he played around with things and found Aurora runs optimal at 8 CPUs. Beyond that, he said he didn't see that much improvement. If you were to do a simulation of, let say, a fish swimming around, that would be a task that would benefit from multiple CPUs and I would expect 2 300s outperform a 700. If, on the other hand, you're doing simulation of an electric power system, even 100 300s ain't going to help you much. --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: TouchVoice Corporation (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: benbowc@attglobal.net 25-Oct-99 20:45:08 To: domi@kenavo.fi 25-Oct-99 07:11:25 Subj: Re: cincyteamos2? To: Dominique Pivard From: Craig Benbow Just what we were looking for Dominique. Thanks for the pointer. Craig Dominique Pivard wrote: > On Sat, 23 Oct 1999 14:57:45, esther@bitranch.com (Esther Schindler) > wrote: > > > > (I've been involved with user groups since 1986. This happens to user > > groups all the time, and shouldn't be construed as an OS/2 issue. It > > is, however, a sad thing, as the Cincy group used to do a *great* Web > > site.) > > Another great site heavily inspired from the old Cincy Team OS/2 site > is: > > http://www.warpupdates.de/ > > It's a one-man show but is constantly updated and full of useful > information. --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Global Network Services - Remote Access Mail & Ne (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: beve@dds.nl 25-Oct-99 10:04:13 To: All 25-Oct-99 07:11:25 Subj: Re: java icq & ibm lava 1.1.8 From: "G. van der Veer" "Rodney D. Myers" skrev: > is anyone experiencing trouble getting icq (java) to run with ibm java 1.1.8? > > it was working before I upgraded to 1.1.8. now I don't get anything. if you start the Java program in a command prompt, do you get a register dump or something? I have no problems at all. The only application that works worse is HotJava, which crashes every ten minutes. kind regards, -- Berry van der Veer +------------------------------------------+ http://www.torget.se/users/g/gvdveer http://www.dsv.nl/~gvdveer +------------------------------------------+ --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: UUNET-NL (http://www.nl.uu.net) (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: cbzh@my-deja.com 25-Oct-99 08:12:27 To: All 25-Oct-99 10:31:28 Subj: Re: I can no longer live with OS/2 From: cbzh@my-deja.com In article <9BoROBaHms74gKOmisUd6GacHn7x@news.kraftwerk.net>, Remove silverware to reply wrote: > cbzh@my-deja.com [Deja.com - Before you buy.] -> comp.os.os2.misc: > > » - I agree 100% with "skrise" in one of his posts: "isn't the promise of > » OS/2 to protect the system even from ill-behaved / poorly programmed > » apps?". Yes, it is, of course! But there are ways for the programmer to > » get around it: must be, because otherwise you couldn't write hardware > » drivers, for example. But also for common applications there are > > Nope. > > Applications (like Navigator and Communicator) runs in protected user mode. > > Hardware drivers (on OS/2, NT4, BeOS and most UNICES *1) runs in kernel mode. > You are right with this distinction, of course, BUT: - "protected user mode" does inhibit things like e.g. int *variable = (int*)0; *variable = 123; i.e. writing data into invalid memory addresses. - it does NOT inhibit constructs like DosEnterCritSection() // or something like that while(1) {} If you put something like that into the exit code of your application you can reproduce the "freezing" effect of some Netscape versions on certain systems! (I didn't check right now if it would do the trick even without being in the exit code, just because of the "critical section" - I am developing here on a NT machine, just for earning my living...) The point is: NORMALLY a user program cannot do much harm to the system, but there ARE a few possibilities anyway. Prudent programmers will stay in the "safe playground" because they are always aware of the fact that they CAN make errors. Others might think they cannot and go into "dangerous areas" more than necessary - and that's exactly what I think some Netscape versions are (or were ??!) suffering from... ...and if it was really impossible to kill a system just with a "normal application": How else could the Netscape programmers have done the trick? It looks like they are not using a device driver just for that purpose ;-)) Like another poster (Kim Cheung) suggested I also hope they really changed certain things fundamentally in the Communicator design! Until now I do not have any reason to believe that things are still as bad as they have been, just no crashes or freezes yet... Greetings, Cornelis [snipped the rest...] Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy. --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Deja.com - Before you buy. (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: rde@tavi.co.uk 25-Oct-99 08:37:28 To: All 25-Oct-99 10:31:28 Subj: Re: How do you expand a partition? From: rde@tavi.co.uk (Bob Eager) On Sun, 24 Oct 1999 21:37:59, Chuck McKinnis wrote: > The text only version (PQMAGICT) shipped with PM OS/2 3.0 is a DOS > program. (one of....) There is also the OS/2 text mode version; PMAGICOT I think. -- Bob Eager rde at tavi.co.uk PC Server 325; PS/2s 8595*3, 9595*3 (2*P60 + P90), 8535, 8570, 9556*2, 8580*6, 8557*2, 8550, 9577, 8530, P70, PC/AT.. --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Tavi Systems (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: rde@tavi.co.uk 25-Oct-99 08:38:01 To: All 25-Oct-99 10:31:28 Subj: Re: os2 installation troubles From: rde@tavi.co.uk (Bob Eager) On Mon, 25 Oct 1999 01:35:21, james.arnold@!!!usa.net wrote: > To save you the trouble of searching, the file you need from v2.1 > is syslevel.os2. > > Create an x:\os2\install directory, where x is the drive you want > to install to and copy the v2.1 syslevel file there. You will now be ready > to install Warp v3. In fact, I'm pretty sure you can use the SYSLEVEL.OS2 off the V3 install disks! -- Bob Eager rde at tavi.co.uk PC Server 325; PS/2s 8595*3, 9595*3 (2*P60 + P90), 8535, 8570, 9556*2, 8580*6, 8557*2, 8550, 9577, 8530, P70, PC/AT.. --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Tavi Systems (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: nick@secant.com 25-Oct-99 07:40:11 To: All 25-Oct-99 10:31:28 Subj: Re: Spamming the Spammers! From: Nick Knight In <380c23f5$1$avgroveq$mr2ice@netnews.voicenet.com>, on 10/19/99 at 03:28 AM, nitebird@voicenet.com (Barry Mann) said: >Every so often I'll get a message that will cause trouble. There is a >stray character somewhere that bugs my mail client and the message is not >completely read because the mail client stalls on the bad character. Next >time messages are fetched we repeat the above. I can also imagine that a >bad character in the message file name will cause trouble. If this is MR/2 you're talking about (I think it's a safe guess :), then you should know that in v1.61 I added some code that, AFAICT, eliminates this problem. Basically, I found some Netscape-originating emails with embedded NULL characters, which caused much trouble when using C++-based string calls. These are now handled. I see you're using v1.60 now. v1.62 is available on the MR/2 ICE web page: http://nick.secant.com/mr2ice.htm This had a few minor bug fixes above-and-beyond what you're using now, including a little patch to accomodate a new FP10/11 problem. Later versions are beta's, still, but there are some HUGE performance enhancements in the current versions. Nick -- ----------------------------------------------------------- Nick Knight http://nick.secant.com Senior Software Engineer Secant Technologies, Inc. http://www.secant.com ----------------------------------------------------------- --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Origin Line 1 Goes Here (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: greybeard@centuryinter.net 25-Oct-99 06:05:15 To: All 25-Oct-99 10:31:28 Subj: Fdisk and 3rd hard drive From: David Gillespie I recently installed a third hard drive, a WD 13gig on a Warp 4 system.  I partitioned it and formatted the partitions HPFS.  The problem is, I want to add one of the partitions to the bootmanager menu but Fdisk will not let me.  The only options that show up when I run fdisk is:
delete partition and set startup value when I select any partition on that drive.  I have even tried using the install disks but still no go.  Will this not work???  Any help is appreciated.

David Gillespie --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: CENTURYinter.net (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: dmhills@ibm.net 25-Oct-99 21:15:12 To: All 25-Oct-99 10:31:28 Subj: Re: Instructions: How To Build An OS/2 Computer From: dmhills@ibm.net (Don Hills) In article <7v0715$3d9$1@nnrp1.deja.com>, jwelton@my-deja.com wrote: >And most importantly many are missing the point. I don't >want to call a hardware manufacturer and pay them to put >together a machine that I could build for probably 1/4 the >cost they will charge me - whether it be Dell or IB. I >would like the ability to go to a web site and follow a set >of step-by-step instructions for building my own top-notch >OS/2 machine. From start to finish. ... Jeff, you're maybe missing the point yourself. You're a student, you should know how much it costs to learn things. Hardware manufacturers have to learn what parts work well together and which are best for a given job. They then add the cost of doing this to the price of their systems. It's called R & D... So sure, someone could build a Web site such as you described. But the site builder would first have to spend a lot of time and effort (=money) collecting and collating information, and buying and testing hardware. In other words, R & D. You can bet it wouldn't be a free access site. So if you want to build your own system cheap, you need to provide your own time and effort. You need to comb the newsgroups and Dejanews and talk to other users. You need to collate the info and after a while a picture will start to emerge- what parts people swear by, and what parts people swear at. Then you buy the parts and a "Build your own PC" book (another research project to find the most recommended book) and go to it. -- Don Hills (dmhills at attglobaldotnet) Wellington, New Zealand --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Global Network Services - Remote Access Mail & Ne (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: dwilliams9494@my-deja.com 25-Oct-99 13:53:29 To: All 25-Oct-99 14:48:15 Subj: Warp Server not able to get available memory From: dwilliams9494@my-deja.com We have a NetFinity 3000 with 528 MB memory running Warp Server 4.0 and DB2 Universal Database 5.2, Fixpack 11. We've been unable to get DB2 to use large amounts of this memory for bufferpools. If I request more than a trivial amount of memory, DB2 doesn't get the memory, and drops back to very low bufferpool sizes (We determined this by using a memory monitoring tool and looking at db2diag.log). When we installed Warp 4.0 workstation on the same PC with the same database version, the problem went away and it all worked fine. Is there a known problem with Warp Server making large (e.g., > 64 MB) of memory available to programs, such as DB2? Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy. --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Deja.com - Before you buy. (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: wellmet@attglobal.net 25-Oct-99 01:57:09 To: All 25-Oct-99 14:48:15 Subj: Re: WANTED: Word Perfect for OS/2 From: wellmet@attglobal.net (Joe Kovacs) In <%awP3.152$mq6.18768@typhoon2.gnilink.net>, rodsmith@adsl-151-203-46-57.bellatlantic.net (Rod Smith) writes: >In article , > nospam@nowhere.com (Steve Myers) writes: >> IMO, the first release was bad. Really bad. The WP 5.2a release was much >> better. > >Agreed. I'd go further, though, and say that the original 5.2 release was >*SO* bad that the 5.2a release was merely awful, rather than supremely >awful. 5.2a would routinely crash on me, often taking OS/2 with it. At >the time, OS/2 newsgroups were rife with reports of WP's instability. >More recently, there seem to be proportionally more people reporting WP >5.2a was reasonably stable, but I'm not among them. I ended up getting >DeScribe, which was wonderful. I wrote my dissertation with DeScribe, and >the thought of doing so with WP 5.2a for OS/2 fills me with horror. WordPerfect 5.2 (not 5.2a) has never crashed or hung here. I wrote hundreds of letter with it, well, one hundreds of them. Reports of WordPerfect/2 instability smell of the same odour as the incessant reports of OS/2's demise. Joe Kovacs Guelph Ontario Canada --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Water Utilities Hydraulic Analysis (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: wellmet@attglobal.net 25-Oct-99 02:22:20 To: All 25-Oct-99 14:48:15 Subj: Re: what brand and model PC today to buy for OS/2 ? From: wellmet@attglobal.net (Joe Kovacs) In <7ur5ur$ego$1@nntp6.atl.mindspring.net>, Zeus Paleologos writes: >While I am appreciative of the suggestions made so far via post and >email, I would like to re-emphasize several of my non-negotiable >purchase preconditions: > >- brand name equipment and, I might add, of proven technology > and reliability. Indeed, reliability might be my number 1 > requirement. >- factory-assembled. I have been the route of building your > own PC several times. I will not do it again. >- locally-available (not mail-order). Proximinity to dealer is > important when handling problems for me. No DELLs. With this lineup of requirements, you're looking for service and not so much a machine. That is, you want to run 24/7 without worrying about it. That's what IBM sells. So carefully consider a real IBM machine, as others have said, and the next step up is that machine with a service contract. Although I don't know that you'd want that, have a look. They're not that expensive. To buy an IBM machine, look in the Yellow Pages under Computers for an IBM Business Partner, the IBM 800 number, or IBM Home Computing Centres. >1 - Regarding OS/2, does it matter whether I choose a PC model with > a Celeron, Pentium II or Pentium III processor ? >4 - Should I plan on installing Warp 4 on whatever I get or will > Warp 3 still be a possibility ? With this lineup of CPUs, you'd definitely install Warp 4. I have in mind that OS/2 v2 is for 386s, Warp 3 is for 486s and Warp 4 is for optimized for 586+. They match the caches and things. Joe Kovacs Guelph Ontario Canada --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Water Utilities Hydraulic Analysis (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: rodsmith@adsl-151-203-46-57.bell... 25-Oct-99 13:34:01 To: All 25-Oct-99 14:48:15 Subj: Re: WANTED: Word Perfect for OS/2 Message sender: rodsmith@adsl-151-203-46-57.bellatlantic.net From: rodsmith@adsl-151-203-46-57.bellatlantic.net (Rod Smith) [Posted and mailed] In article , wellmet@attglobal.net (Joe Kovacs) writes: > In <%awP3.152$mq6.18768@typhoon2.gnilink.net>, rodsmith@adsl-151-203-46-57.bellatlantic.net (Rod Smith) writes: >>In article , >> nospam@nowhere.com (Steve Myers) writes: >>> IMO, the first release was bad. Really bad. The WP 5.2a release was much >>> better. >> >>Agreed. I'd go further, though, and say that the original 5.2 release was >>*SO* bad that the 5.2a release was merely awful, rather than supremely >>awful. 5.2a would routinely crash on me, often taking OS/2 with it. At >>the time, OS/2 newsgroups were rife with reports of WP's instability. >>More recently, there seem to be proportionally more people reporting WP >>5.2a was reasonably stable, but I'm not among them. I ended up getting >>DeScribe, which was wonderful. I wrote my dissertation with DeScribe, and >>the thought of doing so with WP 5.2a for OS/2 fills me with horror. > > WordPerfect 5.2 (not 5.2a) has never crashed or hung here. I > wrote hundreds of letter with it, well, one hundreds of them. > > Reports of WordPerfect/2 instability smell of the same odour > as the incessant reports of OS/2's demise. Don't assume that because somebody's experience is different from yours that the person is spreading FUD or is an agent of the Evil Empire. I certainly can't prove to you that WP 5.2 was buggy on my system when I used it. I didn't videotape myself hyperventilating as I lost work to the thing crashing. I don't even have the same computer any more. I can only report my experiences, which were very real, and which I'm reporting truthfully. I suppose if you could find a news archive dating back that far you could check the original Usenet reports on WP 5.2 for OS/2, which I distinctly recall having a very negative tone overall, although of course there was variation. Perhaps the difference between our experiences is that you say you wrote letters, which are typically fairly short. I was writing a dissertation proposal (among other things), which was longer. In addition to length, we may have been using different WP features, which would have brought out (or not) the bugs. And of course there would be other differences, in hardware, installation details, etc. One final point: Those people who've had negative experiences with WP 5.2 for OS/2 (or any product, for that matter) have moved on to other programs. So naturally, those who still use it are those who didn't have problems, for whatever reason. Somebody picking it up anew will be more likely to have problems than the average current user today, since the new user will not have been self-selected in the way the current userbase has been. -- Rod Smith smithrod@bellatlantic.net http://members.bellatlantic.net/~smithrod Author of _Special Edition Using Corel WordPerfect 8 for Linux_, from Que --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Origin Line 1 Goes Here (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: morgannalefey@my-deja.com 25-Oct-99 13:48:20 To: All 25-Oct-99 14:48:15 Subj: Re: GAH! Got a Trap error on our print server! Help! From: Siobhan Perricone In article , "Scott E. Garfinkle" wrote: > You trapped in some device driver or IFS. Unless there was an "Exception in > Device" message you imitted, I can't say which. Nope, I didn't omit anything. What I typed in is exactly everything that was on the screen. FWIW, I finally got IBM on the phone and they couldn't really tell me anything. The guy there is gonna give the error to a developer for PSF/2 to see if there's any further info that can be gleaned from the error. He's supposed to call me today to let me know what he finds out. He did say that it was unusual to get the same Trap error two times in a row. But on friday when we tried to recreate it, it wouldn't happen. Everything we tried to print worked. *sigh* My employers don't *like* not knowing what happened. :) -- Siobhan Perricone PC Technician Alltel Information Services (I only speak for myself, not for Alltel) Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy. --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Deja.com - Before you buy. (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: esther@bitranch.com 25-Oct-99 16:08:07 To: All 25-Oct-99 16:44:03 Subj: User group survival From: esther@bitranch.com (Esther Schindler) Uno, I'm not sure why you moved this discussion from comp.os.os2.misc to c.o.o.advocacy. I've cross-posted this response to both groups, but since the conversation was started in .misc I suggest that follow-ups be posted only to that group. On Mon, 25 Oct 1999 01:19:42, uno@40th.com (uno@40th.com) wrote: | Esther Schindler? (esther@bitranch.com?) wrote (24 Oct 1999 20:20:22 GMT): | >few long diatribes about the requirement of a user group to charge | >dues. The ones that don't charge dues fade away. The ones that charge | >something, however modest, have a much better chance of making it. | | Or, those that can charge a fee are worth paying the fee to, and so | it continues. Those that aren't worth the fee aren't going to stay | around anyway. Uno, you miss my point. Whatever the relative value of the user groups -- and the Bay Area OS/2 User Group was an _excellent_ one, by any standard you can name -- the statistics demonstrate that NoDuesCollection==extinction. My theory, that it's related to the member's (literal) buy-in, is only a theory. But the statistics speak for themselves. Sure, most bad user groups fail, just as most bad software companies fail and most bad restaurants fail. But a good user group will fail within 3 years, if it doesn't charge dues -- even though the apparency is that "no cost" is a benefit. With money coming in, the user group leadership has resources for doing something to serve the membership. Those services aren't 100% successful (what is?) but they enhance the ability of the user group membership to use their computers more efficiently and more enjoyably, and to help other people -- which is the whole point of the exercise. |But, still, OS/2 users are hard enough to find, and | if you can't keep all of them the outfit is in trouble (it's not like | there are more where they came from). The "hard enough to find" is the real trouble. Just as any computer industry magazine attracts only a tiny percentage of the computer users out there, any user group (OS/2 or otherwise) has to find and attract a significant percentage of the community... the qualified target market, if you will. Unless an OS/2 user happens to check WarpCast or read the newsgroups or participate in a _very_ closed set of activities, she can miss the existance of a user group entirely. (And this is quite common. I spent 3 months as OS/2 Network Administrator at a large company that was running several OS/2 servers, and they didn't read _anything_ except PC Week or Infoworld... and usually were too busy to look at that.) (The biggest problem for OS/2 ISVs isn't the shrinking market size, but _FINDING_ the market in the first place. You can't advertise on a TV show if you don't know what shows the qualified buyers are watching, for instance.) Also, keep the context in mind. Most user groups, across the board, are shrinking rapidly. I'm still on the mail lists for user group officers. Most general/Windows groups report that their membership has slipped from, say, 500 to 225 members, in the last couple of years. Between the Internet and the ubiquity of information about PCs, it's no longer quite as necessary for the "general" computer user to leave the house on a dark and stormy night to find out about the latest and greatest application. (I have several other criticisms about general PC user group management, and theories about their shrinkage, but they're way off topic.) In contrast, the Phoenix OS/2 Society's membership is growing, every month. Not necessarily by a lot, every time, but we're growing while others are shrinking. That's almost entirely because we've put the dues money into the user group's print magazine -- extended attributes is our major service to the membership. It's won awards three times over, so _somebody_ agrees that we're doing something right. | [POSSI has] members in 19 countries and nearly every U.S. | >state. (Know any OS/2 users in South Dakota?) | | How about breaking it all down, as in numbers per country/state? It's | easy to say "my [product] is in five (or six) continents", but that's | just so much hooey, and only brought up because there's nothing else | to bring up. It's already been done, Uno. About 6 months ago, we published a map in extended attributes, showing where the members live. Had you been a member, or an advertiser, you'd have seen the chart. --Esther Schindler Program Chair Phoenix OS/2 Society http://www.possi.org --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Frontier GlobalCenter Inc. (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: bbarclay@ca.ibm.com 25-Oct-99 11:41:26 To: All 25-Oct-99 16:44:04 Subj: Re: Warp Server not able to get available memory From: Brad BARCLAY dwilliams9494@my-deja.com wrote: > > We have a NetFinity 3000 with 528 MB memory running Warp Server 4.0 and > DB2 Universal Database 5.2, Fixpack 11. We've been unable to get DB2 > to use large amounts of this memory for bufferpools. If I request more > than a trivial amount of memory, DB2 doesn't get the memory, and drops > back to very low bufferpool sizes (We determined this by using a memory > monitoring tool and looking at db2diag.log). > > When we installed Warp 4.0 workstation on the same PC with the same > database version, the problem went away and it all worked fine. > > Is there a known problem with Warp Server making large (e.g., > 64 MB) > of memory available to programs, such as DB2? Just something to remember - there is a big difference between WARP Server v4 and WARP client v4. The former is actually based on the WARP v3 client codebase. Do you have the latest WARP Server v4 fixpak installed? Brad BARCLAY =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Posted from the OS/2 WARP v4.5 desktop of Brad BARCLAY. E-Mail: bbarclay@ca.ibm.com Location: 2G43D@Torolabs --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: IBM Toronto Labs, DB2 for OS/2 Install Developer (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: lsunley@mb.sympatico.ca 25-Oct-99 18:07:02 To: All 25-Oct-99 16:44:04 Subj: Re: Warp Server not able to get available memory From: lsunley@mb.sympatico.ca (Lorne Sunley) On Mon, 25 Oct 1999 17:23:51, dwilliams9494@my-deja.com wrote: > Thanks for the quick response, Brad. We have installed all the latest > fixpacks; even lived through inserting 18 diskettes for one of them. > > I'm vaguely aware of the Warp Server v4 vs. Warp Client v4 codebase > differences. I have to stop myself from referring to Warp Server v4 as > version 3; it calls itself v4, but it looks and acts like v3 ;-). I > suspect that may be the source of the problem: that something was fixed > for Warp 4 workstation, but isn't in the Warp Server code. > > For our in-house machines, we're working around the problem by > installing Warp 4 workstation on the database server. But we HAVE to > get it working under Warp Server at our customer sites, for lots of > reasons. > > Any suggestions? Were there any fixes in Warp workstation that > addressed this? Is there any change in how Warp Server works that it > won't give an application very much memory unless you configure it a > certain way? > > Derek > > In article <38147A41.455D68ED@ca.ibm.com>, > Brad BARCLAY wrote: > > dwilliams9494@my-deja.com wrote: > > > > > > We have a NetFinity 3000 with 528 MB memory running Warp Server 4.0 > and > > > DB2 Universal Database 5.2, Fixpack 11. We've been unable to get > DB2 > > > to use large amounts of this memory for bufferpools. If I request > more > > > than a trivial amount of memory, DB2 doesn't get the memory, and > drops > > > back to very low bufferpool sizes (We determined this by using a > memory > > > monitoring tool and looking at db2diag.log). > > > > > > When we installed Warp 4.0 workstation on the same PC with the same > > > database version, the problem went away and it all worked fine. > > > > > > Is there a known problem with Warp Server making large (e.g., > 64 > MB) > > > of memory available to programs, such as DB2? > > > > Just something to remember - there is a big difference between > WARP > > Server v4 and WARP client v4. The former is actually based on the > WARP > > v3 client codebase. > > > > Do you have the latest WARP Server v4 fixpak installed? > > The most likely thing is the disk cache allocated by HPFS386. The largest cache size used by HPFS (which is what is running on the Warp 4 client) is 2 Mbyte. HPFS386 will allocated a much larger default cache. Take a look at the HPFS386.INI (?) and see what the max cache size is set to. (I think that's where it is but I do not have HPFS386 installed on my server WSeB) Lorne Sunley --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: MBnet Networking Inc. (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: bv@mail.bv.no 25-Oct-99 15:26:09 To: All 25-Oct-99 16:44:04 Subj: Re: Multiprocessor Support From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Bj=F8rn?= Vermo Harry Travis wrote: > In , on 10/24/99 > at 08:21 PM, doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net (Doug Bissett) said: > > >On Sat, 23 Oct 1999 15:31:51, "David T. Johnson" > > wrote: > > >> Richard Hanson wrote: > >> > > >> > Quick question: Does OS/2 Warp v.4 support dual processors? I was thinking of installing it on a Tyan Tomcat 4.02 with dual P300's. > >> > > >> A little off-topic but what is the advantage of dual P300's over a > >> single PIII 600 Mhz or Athlon 700 Mhz? > > >You know, that is a very difficult question, and there is no real > >answer. It depends on so many variables, that one user might find that > >(s)he gets a real performance boost (over a single processor), and > >another will find performance degradation. > > >Way back, in 1968, I worked on an old IBM mainframe (the 2065, for > >those who might remember), which had a multiple processor > >configuration (2). The MP was found to perform anywhere from 2 to 5 > >times what a single (identical) processor could do (in a production > >environment). A lot of research was done, to try to figure this out, > >but I think the analysis was faulty, or they never did figure it out, > >because more modern multiprocessor systems performed somewhere less > >than 2 over a single processor. I have no idea how these numbers > >relate to the PC, but I suspect that they are similar. Then there is > >the operating system. Properly designed, and multithreaded, like OS/2, > >it will do much better than something that doesn't have the ability to > >assign work to the processors in such a way that it can keep them > >busy. Then there are the programs running under the OS. If they are > >properly designed, and mutithreaded, so the OS has something to work > >with, they can make a tremendous difference to performance. > > >So, yes, two processors can outrun a single (twice as fast) processor, > >but only if the configuration is correct. I suspect that, even with > >other things being optimal, that a single 600 mhz processor will > >outrun dual 300 mhz processors, just because there is less overhead to > >dispatch the job stream. > > This PPRO 200 stand-alone user with a dual processor-board would rather > keep the box, add a second processor and VRM (for $120, tops) and send > IBM $150 for SMP OS/2 client, if it were available. than I would buy a > new 450+. Not even close, in terms of indirect set-up time and > data-movement costs. > I'd buy a dual or quad PPro system any time, it is by far the best processor forOS/2. This is definitely a case where things are not equal. Still, a 400MHz PPro with a faster bus would probably outperform the dual 200 in some 98% of all cases. IBM have done a number of tests of SMP systems, and they have published several test results and white papers. OS/2 can, in some very rare circumstances, get slightly above 100% scaling from one to two processors. This only happens in some rather contrieved benchmarks, not in real life. On the other hand, things are never equal in real life. The real alternative to a dual xMHz is not a single 2xMHz same type CPU in the same board, it is either a twice-as-fast newer-generation CPU in a board designed for it if speed is everything an money no concern, or the twice as expensive board/CPU configuration when money is the restraining factor. Inexpensive dual processor boards have a bottleneck in the cache, memory and bus paths. A twice as fast newer generation CPU with a faster external bus will always have an advantage unless the task to perform consists of tight computational loops with little I/O and small amounts of data in memory. On the other hand, a CPU which is half as fast as the newest and greatest will usually cost much less than half the price. You may be able to get something almost as fast for less than half the price, or something noticeably faster for only slightly more. Such calculations are extremely short lived. By the time you have assembled the dual system, the price of the new superfast processor may have dropped by 50%. What I would really like to get my hands on, is a high-grade SMP system with 16 or more 100MHz 486 processors and dual microchannel. I use electrical heating in any case... --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Norbionics (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: ames@deltrak.demon.co.uk 25-Oct-99 15:41:02 To: All 25-Oct-99 16:44:04 Subj: Re: Floppy problems From: ames@deltrak.demon.co.uk (Andrew Stephenson) In article doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net "Doug Bissett" writes: > [...] I NEVER clean diskette Around 1982/3, when floppy disk technology was represented by the likes of 5.25", a few lingering 8" and 3.5" coming along fast, I worked with people whose office in a seedy building in an older part of London was constantly dusty, thanks to reconstructions going on in neighbouring offices. You could leave something for a day and come back to a noticeable film. Yet (so they claimed) they never had disk problems attributable to the dust. Maybe the fans in the machines moved the muck too fast for it to settle on drive heads and disks? -- Andrew Stephenson --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: DNS (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: ames@deltrak.demon.co.uk 25-Oct-99 15:46:29 To: All 25-Oct-99 16:44:04 Subj: Re: Modems (again?) From: ames@deltrak.demon.co.uk (Andrew Stephenson) In article rsteiner@visi.com "Richard Steiner" writes: > [...] > > FWIW, USR Couriers have text-based flash software which runs in > DOS, and which I believe runs just fine in a VDM. Confirmed. My 1995-vintage Courier Dual Standard has had one u/g that way. But then further flash upgrades became hard to locate, as USR-UK failed to give some of the worst non-service never seen -- if you follow me. But the u/g did work smoothly. > They aren't inexpensive, however. Compared with the ultra-el-cheapos, certainly. I think it's a case of amortising that cost over a long and contented lifetime. -- Andrew Stephenson --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: DNS (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: Magnus Olsson 25-Oct-99 17:33:15 To: All 25-Oct-99 16:44:04 Subj: Deep trouble From: Magnus Olsson Hi all! I'm facing a very difficult problem. As you can see i have to use the BeOS to post this cry for help. Whenever I try to dial the internet i get a crashed dialer due to an access violation as follows: 10-24-1999 12:27:23 SYS3175 PID 0027 TID 0002 Slot 0045 E:\TCPIP\BIN\SLIPPM.EXE c0000005 1bf91d36 P1=00000000 P2=ffffffff P3=XXXXXXXX P4=XXXXXXXX EAX=00c1ec40 EBX=00001000 ECX=00000000 EDX=00c30000 ESI=00c30000 EDI=0000000d DS=0053 DSACC=d0f3 DSLIM=1fffffff ES=0053 ESACC=d0f3 ESLIM=1fffffff FS=150b FSACC=00f3 FSLIM=00000030 GS=0000 GSACC=**** GSLIM=******** CS:EIP=005b:1bf91d36 CSACC=d0df CSLIM=1fffffff SS:ESP=0053:00c1ec24 SSACC=d0f3 SSLIM=1fffffff EBP=00c1ec44 FLG=00002206 DOSCALL1.DLL 0002:00001d36 The same happens with the IBM internet dialer, Communicator, Navigator and ProNews too... I've had some "odd" problems with fp12, so i tried to backout to fp8, but no luck:-( I use the internet a lot, and recently i've used it daily for international communication with my girl-friend, so I'm in deep deep trouble!!! Please help me if you can I'll be eternally grateful (no exaggeration!) --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Global Network Services - Remote Access Mail & Ne (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: alex@eddie.cis.uoguelph.ca 25-Oct-99 17:50:27 To: All 25-Oct-99 16:44:04 Subj: Re: Scrolling with serial mice... From: alex@eddie.cis.uoguelph.ca (Alex Taylor) On Fri, 22 Oct 1999 19:57:01 -0400 (EDT), David McKenna wrote: > >For me, and I'm pretty certain for most "Joe/Jane User"s, IRQs are _far_ > >more valuable than serial ports. In my experience, most people use 1 > >serial port for a modem (if they don't have internal), leaving another > >available for a mouse. Most desktops have 2 serial ports, expandable to 4. > > I agree IRQ's are more valuable than serial ports. That is why I always > disable them in the computers' BIOS (unless they are being used). This frees > those IRQ's (3 and 4) for other uses. It has been at least 4 years since I > have seen a BIOS that does not allow disabling the COM ports (I admit I > haven't seen them all :-). > > Why not use the PS/2 mouse, and disable one of the COM ports for the IRQ? It just seems very silly and redundant to me, not to mention inelegant. I suppose I could, but I've got a perfectly good serial mouse which uses system resources exactly the way I like, without needing any such reconfiguring. In any case, I don't want to buy another mouse, it seems wasteful. -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- Alex Taylor BA - CIS - University of Guelph alex@eddie.cis.uoguelph.ca http://eddie.cis.uoguelph.ca/~alex ----------------------------------------------------------------- --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: @Home Network Canada (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: derwin@airmail.net 25-Oct-99 12:52:16 To: All 25-Oct-99 16:44:04 Subj: Re: Help - OS2 boot procedure From: Dale Erwin I strongly suspect that you made your copy while OS/2 was running. Consequently some of the system files were locked and could not be copied. Sorry I can't remember the workaround for sure, but seems like booting the source PC from floppies should enable the copy to proceed successfully. -- Dale tipu996@my-deja.com wrote: > I'm running OS2 on a PC. I copied the entire contents of the HD to > another PC (same model hd etc) The problem is it crashes before loading > the complete OS. It says "Exception in device driver: SINGLEQ$". > > The new PC is not connected to a network which the other one is. Also it > does not have a Token Ring card unlike the older machine. But shouldn't > it still boot? > > Can someone tell me what files are read by the booting procedure please. > Is it just the config.sys file or are other file also read? > > Any help appreciated > > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ > Before you buy. --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Erwin Technology Corporation (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: djohnson@isomedia.com 25-Oct-99 10:58:27 To: All 25-Oct-99 16:44:04 Subj: Re: Fdisk and 3rd hard drive From: "David T. Johnson" David Gillespie wrote: > > I recently installed a third hard drive, a WD 13gig on a Warp 4 > system. I partitioned it and formatted the partitions HPFS. The > problem is, I want to add one of the partitions to the bootmanager > menu but Fdisk will not let me. The only options that show up when I > run fdisk is: > delete partition and set startup value when I select any partition on > that drive. I have even tried using the install disks but still no > go. Will this not work??? Any help is appreciated. Try setting the drive as LBA in the BIOS setup. Then see if FDISK will give you the boot manager option. If yes, select the add-to-boot-manager option, reformat the hard drive, and off ya go. > > David Gillespie --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: dwilliams9494@my-deja.com 25-Oct-99 17:23:25 To: All 25-Oct-99 16:44:04 Subj: Re: Warp Server not able to get available memory From: dwilliams9494@my-deja.com Thanks for the quick response, Brad. We have installed all the latest fixpacks; even lived through inserting 18 diskettes for one of them. I'm vaguely aware of the Warp Server v4 vs. Warp Client v4 codebase differences. I have to stop myself from referring to Warp Server v4 as version 3; it calls itself v4, but it looks and acts like v3 ;-). I suspect that may be the source of the problem: that something was fixed for Warp 4 workstation, but isn't in the Warp Server code. For our in-house machines, we're working around the problem by installing Warp 4 workstation on the database server. But we HAVE to get it working under Warp Server at our customer sites, for lots of reasons. Any suggestions? Were there any fixes in Warp workstation that addressed this? Is there any change in how Warp Server works that it won't give an application very much memory unless you configure it a certain way? Derek In article <38147A41.455D68ED@ca.ibm.com>, Brad BARCLAY wrote: > dwilliams9494@my-deja.com wrote: > > > > We have a NetFinity 3000 with 528 MB memory running Warp Server 4.0 and > > DB2 Universal Database 5.2, Fixpack 11. We've been unable to get DB2 > > to use large amounts of this memory for bufferpools. If I request more > > than a trivial amount of memory, DB2 doesn't get the memory, and drops > > back to very low bufferpool sizes (We determined this by using a memory > > monitoring tool and looking at db2diag.log). > > > > When we installed Warp 4.0 workstation on the same PC with the same > > database version, the problem went away and it all worked fine. > > > > Is there a known problem with Warp Server making large (e.g., > 64 MB) > > of memory available to programs, such as DB2? > > Just something to remember - there is a big difference between WARP > Server v4 and WARP client v4. The former is actually based on the WARP > v3 client codebase. > > Do you have the latest WARP Server v4 fixpak installed? > > Brad BARCLAY > > =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= > Posted from the OS/2 WARP v4.5 desktop of Brad BARCLAY. > E-Mail: bbarclay@ca.ibm.com Location: 2G43D@Torolabs > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy. --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Deja.com - Before you buy. (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: seg@NOSPAM-us.ibm.com 25-Oct-99 13:56:29 To: All 25-Oct-99 16:44:04 Subj: Re: Warp Server not able to get available memory From: "Scott E. Garfinkle" On Mon, 25 Oct 1999 18:07:04 GMT, Lorne Sunley wrote: >> Is there a known problem with Warp Server making large (e.g., > 64 >> MB) >> > > of memory available to programs, such as DB2? Lorne is right -- it's probably hpfs386. In hpfs386.ini, add a line that reads maxheap=2048 Also, if you're running commserver, look for a line in config.sys that looks like DEVICE=C:\CMLIB\CMKFMDE.SYS If you find it, change it to look like DEVICE=C:\CMLIB\CMKFMDE.SYS /lsl=2m If this works, try 8m for better performance and see whether it still works. --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: NCSD OS/2 Service (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: hamei@pacbell.net 25-Oct-99 07:42:07 To: All 25-Oct-99 16:44:04 Subj: Re: what brand and model PC today to buy for OS/2 ? From: hamei@pacbell.net In <8k6E4oHpv6CE092yn@visi.com>, rsteiner@visi.com (Richard Steiner) writes: >Here in comp.os.os2.misc, =?iso-8859-1?Q?Bj=F8rn?= Vermo >spake unto us, saying: > >>OK - IBM (real thing, not the Aptiva) are reliable beyond the obsolescence >>point. The IBM PC-xxx comes in models with OS/2, while the servers come in >>versions with no OS (or even with no disk installed). The Intellistation >>series does not support OS/2 well. > >Huh. This must have seriously changed in the past few years. > >One of the boxes I use Warp 4 on here is an IBM IntelliStation Z Pro >(the older Z Pro model 6899 based on the PPro/200 processor), and it >has been formally certified by IBM to run with both Warp 3 and Warp 4. > >In my experience, that IntelliStation model runs Warp 4 flawlessly. me too - model 6899, Warp 3AS, SMP, overclocked to boot ( c'mon rich, after more than a year's test you should believe me ! one little DIP switch . . . ) > >-- > -Rich Steiner >>>---> rsteiner@visi.com >>>---> Bloomington, MN > OS/2 + Linux + BeOS + FreeBSD + Solaris + WinNT4 + Win95 + DOS > + VMWare + Fusion + vMac + Executor = PC Hobbyist Heaven! :-) > Why is common sense is the least common of all senses? Albert, the Mad Shirt Grinder --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: SBC Internet Services (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: abc@posokhov.msk.ru 25-Oct-99 21:39:29 To: All 25-Oct-99 16:44:04 Subj: The new version of Nice OS/2 Enhancer is released :-) From: "Sergey Posokhov" Hello! The Nice OS/2 Enhancer adds new features to the OS/2 Warp system. It works alongside the Presentation Manager (PM) and other applications. This version has a new interface and great changes in a kernel code, the speed was increased, new features were added. Here is a list of the Enhancer's features: * Image movement in all windows by means of mouse and keyboard, * Frames and controls modified for all windows, * Workplace extension - four "Rooms" around the desktop, * "Hot-keys" definition for any version of OS/2 Warp, * Various "patches" for your system. Nice OS/2 Enhancer is a multi-threaded application so it cannot block the system, and is very stable. All actions are performed in background mode so you do not need to upgrade your hardware to use this Enhancer. Try to make your system better :-) System requirements: OS/2 Warp 4.x with Netscape Navigator. Status: OpenSource software. Application URL: 1. ftp-os2.nmsu.edu/pub/os2/util/wps/nice-os2-v30.zip 2. ftp.kiarchive.ru/pub/os2/wpsutil/nice-os2-v30.zip 3. beit.fcn.ru/pub/os2/wpsutil/nice-os2-v30.zip Screenshot URL: ftp-os2.nmsu.edu/pub/multimedia/images/gif/nice-os2.gif Regards! --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: unknown (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: abc@posokhov.msk.ru 25-Oct-99 21:36:16 To: All 25-Oct-99 16:44:04 Subj: New file utility is released. From: "Sergey Posokhov" News! A new version of file checker "Names" is released. This application checks files on HPFS drives, it can change a case of names, revise differences between file and WPS object names, change attributes of files, and more. Requirements: OS/2 Warp 4.x with Netscape Navigator. Status: OpenSource software. Full URL: ftp-os2.nmsu.edu/pub/os2/util/disk/Names-v11.zip Download and enjoy it! --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: unknown (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: alex@eddie.cis.uoguelph.ca 25-Oct-99 18:40:13 To: All 25-Oct-99 16:44:04 Subj: Re: Help - OS2 boot procedure From: alex@eddie.cis.uoguelph.ca (Alex Taylor) On Mon, 25 Oct 1999 14:37:41 GMT, tipu996@my-deja.com wrote: > I'm running OS2 on a PC. I copied the entire contents of the HD to > another PC (same model hd etc) The problem is it crashes before loading > the complete OS. It says "Exception in device driver: SINGLEQ$". Sounds like an incompatible video driver. Are you absolutely sure that ALL the hardware in both machines is completely identical? If not, doing a straight hard drive copy is liable to do things like this. Try hitting Alt-F1 at the OS/2 "boot blob", and choosing "Reset primary video to VGA"; and see if that works. If it does, you can then go about installing the correct video driver. If that's not it, it's sounds like something else to do with the desktop is messed up. You could also try the "Maintenance Desktop"... -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- Alex Taylor BA - CIS - University of Guelph alex@eddie.cis.uoguelph.ca http://eddie.cis.uoguelph.ca/~alex ----------------------------------------------------------------- --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: @Home Network Canada (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: seg@NOSPAM-us.ibm.com 25-Oct-99 12:52:12 To: All 25-Oct-99 16:44:04 Subj: Re: GAH! Got a Trap error on our print server! Help! From: "Scott E. Garfinkle" On Mon, 25 Oct 1999 13:48:40 GMT, Siobhan Perricone wrote: >> You trapped in some device driver or IFS. Unless there was >an "Exception in >> Device" message you imitted, I can't say which. >Nope, I didn't omit anything. What I typed in is exactly everything >that was on the screen. You ignored the important part of the post. Go back and run exeinfo like I wrote before. Until you do this, you're wasting your time. --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: NCSD OS/2 Service (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: morgannalefey@my-deja.com 25-Oct-99 19:01:08 To: All 25-Oct-99 16:44:04 Subj: Re: GAH! Got a Trap error on our print server! Help! From: Siobhan Perricone In article , "Scott E. Garfinkle" wrote: > You trapped in some device driver or IFS. Unless there was an "Exception in > Device" message you imitted, I can't say which. regarding the accusation that I ignored your suggestion... > get > ftp://hobbes.nmsu.edu/pub/os2/util/disk/exeinfo.zip. unzip it and type > "exefino -f -le87f" from a command prompt on each drive where you have device > drivers. You should get back a match fr the code segment size of some DD. At > least that will tell you what's trapping so you can look for newer fix > levels, tune parameters, or whatever. While I appreciate the help, speaking to me as if I were a newbie (because I *am*) would be a big help. I don't know what "You should get back a match fr the code segment size of some DD." means. Since I already have someone at IBM working on this (and since I'm already paying him to help me), I'll wait for him to contact me. Though I have printed out your message and I'll consult him about it. AGain, thank you. -- Siobhan Perricone PC Technician Alltel Information Services (I only speak for myself, not for Alltel) Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy. --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Deja.com - Before you buy. (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: fruskoNOSPAM@ibm.net 25-Oct-99 12:21:20 To: All 25-Oct-99 16:44:04 Subj: ADSL connection in Victoria From: "Frank Rusko" Does anyone in Victoria have experience in setting up ADSL and who lives in the Victoria B.C. area. ADSL is supplied here in the Victoria area, but I am not too comfortable in setting it up myself any help would be appreciated. I would be willing to reimburse anyone who can get it up and running for me. Thank you in advance --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: MicroSphere Distributions (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: fBeythien@gmx.de 25-Oct-99 18:36:09 To: All 25-Oct-99 16:44:04 Subj: Re: Help - OS2 boot procedure From: fBeythien@gmx.de (Frank Beythien) On Mon, 25 Oct 1999 14:37:41, tipu996@my-deja.com wrote: > I'm running OS2 on a PC. I copied the entire contents of the HD to > another PC (same model hd etc) The problem is it crashes before loading > the complete OS. It says "Exception in device driver: SINGLEQ$". What about the graphic card? You could try to boot to a cmdline ( alt-f1 at the os/2 blob) and then enter SETVGA to go back to VGA. Later you can (re)install the graphic driver. CU/2 Frank -- Frank Beythien fBeythien@gmx.de --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Prima e.V. - Dortmund - Germany (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: salisali@my-deja.com 25-Oct-99 19:39:17 To: All 25-Oct-99 19:06:15 Subj: Which protocol i use to write a os/2 program that tranfers files with s From: salisali@my-deja.com Hi - I want to write a program in C++ or asm language that sends a file from one computer to another by a serial port(RS-232) . Do you know any protocol or have a sample code or even know a site that helps me . In this problem the reciver knows nothing about the size or name of transferring file .I previously sent my request to this forum but i forgot to say that i want to "Write a os/2 program" to make this, no any software that do that . - thanks - majid Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy. --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Deja.com - Before you buy. (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: News@The-Net-4U.com 25-Oct-99 20:03:15 To: All 25-Oct-99 19:06:15 Subj: Re: OK, I must be getting spoiled so let me ask for more ... From: News@The-Net-4U.com (M.P. van Dobben de Bruijn) > Ideally you would drag the TIFF Icon into your application's document and that > would be it. Since you are having problems with that, perhaps you can drag the > TIFF to the clipboard app. I'm not sure where it is in the folders Thanks that was what I was looking for: a way to get it straight into the clipboard without the need to open up a graphic application. However, still fail to find a way to do that and I am completely unaware where to find the clipboard to put it into. Regards from Leeuwarden Peter van Dobben de Bruijn --- usethenet.at.the-net-4u.com (.at. becomes @) ---- --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: TeleKabel (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: seg@NOSPAM-us.ibm.com 25-Oct-99 14:38:21 To: All 25-Oct-99 19:06:15 Subj: Re: GAH! Got a Trap error on our print server! Help! From: "Scott E. Garfinkle" On Mon, 25 Oct 1999 19:01:17 GMT, Siobhan Perricone wrote: >> get ftp://hobbes.nmsu.edu/pub/os2/util/disk/exeinfo.zip. unzip it and type >> "exefino -f -le87f" from a command prompt on each drive where you have device >> drivers. You should get back a match fr the code segment size of some DD. At >> least that will tell you what's trapping so you can look for newer fix >> levels, tune parameters, or whatever. >While I appreciate the help, speaking to me as if I were a newbie >(because I *am*) would be a big help. I don't know what "You should >get back a match fr the code segment size of some DD." means. Sorry. I was a bit brief!! The point was, i didn't really THINK there was an exception in device message, and I'm trying to tell you that you HAVE to run exeinfo, as specified. The "match" to which I refer will come about if exeinfo finds a code object in an executable file (e.g. .SYS) that matches the number you type in -- which, in turn, matches the CSLIM value you saw in your trap screen. The PSF/2 support people will not be able to help you without a lot of luck unless you come up with the device driver info. Do yourself a big favor and run the command. regards, scott --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: NCSD OS/2 Service (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: bv@mail.bv.no 25-Oct-99 18:55:11 To: All 25-Oct-99 19:06:15 Subj: Re: Help - OS2 boot procedure From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Bj=F8rn?= Vermo tipu996@my-deja.com wrote: > I'm running OS2 on a PC. I copied the entire contents of the HD to > another PC (same model hd etc) The problem is it crashes before loading > the complete OS. It says "Exception in device driver: SINGLEQ$". > > The new PC is not connected to a network which the other one is. Also it > does not have a Token Ring card unlike the older machine. But shouldn't > it still boot? > No, not the way networking is implemented. Keep in mind that it is possible to boot from net, for instance. > > Can someone tell me what files are read by the booting procedure please. > Is it just the config.sys file or are other file also read? > It is enough to rem out all the networking from config.sys and startup.cmd fo get a bootable system. In principle, OS/2 requires to be installed on the actual hardware you run it on. Disk cloning may work, but it really is a can of worms. The support for installation over the network is very good, but that obviously does not help when the target is not on the net. If the problem is that you do not have a CD-ROM drive, it is possible to copy the installation CD to a disk partition and make boot diskettes which will start installation from that. --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Norbionics (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: jvarela@mind-spring.com 25-Oct-99 20:45:24 To: All 25-Oct-99 19:06:15 Subj: Re: OK, I must be getting spoiled so let me ask for more ... From: jvarela@mind-spring.com (John Varela) On Mon, 25 Oct 1999 20:03:30, News@The-Net-4U.com (M.P. van Dobben de Bruijn) wrote: > > >> Isn't there a facility in Warp (or an utility if it must be) that allows me > >> to right-click on a files icon and then simply select the option to put > >> the contents into the clipboard without the need to open an app first? > > > Pickup followed by Dump. > > Thanks. Found the PickUp and ended up with a camera near > the pointer. No way to Dump it into the clipboard or the intended > application (IBMworks in this case) however. What am I doing wrong? As a test I just picked up a text file, right clicked on the EPM icon, selected DROP --> Move from the menu, and EPM opened the file. Then I tried it with Lotus WordPro and that worked, too. -- John Varela to e-mail, remove - between mind and spring --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: MindSpring Enterprises (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: jvarela@mind-spring.com 25-Oct-99 20:54:25 To: All 25-Oct-99 19:06:15 Subj: Re: OK, I must be getting spoiled so let me ask for more ... From: jvarela@mind-spring.com (John Varela) On Mon, 25 Oct 1999 20:03:31, News@The-Net-4U.com (M.P. van Dobben de Bruijn) wrote: > > > Ideally you would drag the TIFF Icon into your application's document and that > > would be it. Since you are having problems with that, perhaps you can drag the > > TIFF to the clipboard app. I'm not sure where it is in the folders > > Thanks that was what I was looking for: a way to get it straight into the clipboard > without the need to open up a graphic application. However, still fail to find a way > to do that and I am completely unaware where to find the clipboard to put it into. I see I misunderstood what you were trying to do. I use a freeware multiclipboard program called ManyClip, and I know where to find its icon. Unfortunately, pickup/drop doesn't work with ManyClip. -- John Varela to e-mail, remove - between mind and spring --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: MindSpring Enterprises (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: lyonchri@pilot.msu.edu 25-Oct-99 18:19:23 To: All 25-Oct-99 21:17:19 Subj: Re: Networking 2 home computers... From: "Christopher B. Lyon" Or, you can do what we did...if you are only going to connect 2 computers, use a crossover cable. These are available for only like a buck more than the regular cables and you won't need a hub. Chris Gary Dale <2822232030@home.com> wrote in message news:3813BA3A.9DB71952@home.com... > If you are running at 10M bps then you can probably use coaxial ethernet > cable. Almost all 10M cards have both coax and twisted pair connectors. If > you are wiring up a home or office, then go with Cat 5 twisted pair. > Otherwise, a simple coax network avoids the need for a hub. However, it is > worth noting that 10M hubs are dirt cheap these days, and even 100M hubs > can be reasonable. > > devlin wrote: > > > Hub not needed for networking two computers if you use a 4 wire > > ethernet cable. > > > > I am running my two computer network with one NIC card in each and one > > 4 wire eithernet cable and it works fantastic! > > > > Hub only needed if you are going to be connecting more than two. > > > > On Tue, 24 Aug 1999 00:06:10 -0700, Dane wrote: > > > > >Philip Wright wrote: > > >> > > >> A 3COM OfficeConnect 4 port hub is dirt cheap (~$40). > > >> Rather than fool with crossover cables I would recommend > > >> a hub for simplicity and expandability. > > >> > > >> Philip Wright > > > > > >I'll take a $7 Cat 5 crossover cable anyday of the week > > >over a $40 hub. Add to it a pair of Pro 100 Ethernet > > >cards and you have a very fast network. > > > > > >-- > > >Anti-Spamming measures. To reply to me, remove nospam. > > >and ROT-13 my email address: qnar@nospam.fbhguynaq.arg > --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Michigan State University (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: piquant00@uswestmail.net 25-Oct-99 22:22:20 To: All 25-Oct-99 21:17:19 Subj: Re: Help - OS2 boot procedure From: piquant00@uswestmail.net (Annie K.) On Mon, 25 Oct 1999 14:37:41, tipu996@my-deja.com wrote: :I'm running OS2 on a PC. I copied the entire contents of the HD to :another PC (same model hd etc) The problem is it crashes before loading :the complete OS. It says "Exception in device driver: SINGLEQ$". Boot the machine, and when you see the small white rectangle in the upper left corner with "OS/2" next to it, hit Alt-F1. Choose reset to VGA from the menu, and see if that doesn't help. -- Klaatu barada nikto --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Team OS/2 (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: patrick.palmer@dtn.ntl.com 26-Oct-99 00:31:25 To: All 25-Oct-99 21:17:19 Subj: Stuck - LS120 From: patrick.palmer@dtn.ntl.com Warp 4 fixpack 11 - 8.4Meg Hard drive (so right drivers are there?). OS2 doesn't find the LS120 drive (either slave or master - I won't be caught twice by that). Naturally works fine under NT on same machine. This is a tad frustrating. I would welcome ideas/answers. Patrick --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: NTL Internet News Service (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: hunters@thunder.indstate.edu 25-Oct-99 22:35:03 To: All 25-Oct-99 21:17:19 Subj: Re: Interesting TrueType tid-bit... From: hunters@thunder.indstate.edu In article , doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net (Doug Bissett) wrote: > I am not sure what you find so "interesting". HexEdit (or open in e.exe) any .TTF file, and look for some familiar text... You may recognize it as the name of an IBM made PC Operating system. I've done this on Win95 machines too. Very interesting to say the least. -- -Steven Hunter *OS/2 Warp 4 * | hunters@thunder.indstate.edu *AMD K6-2 400* | Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy. --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Deja.com - Before you buy. (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: wsonna@ibm.net 26-Oct-99 00:09:01 To: All 25-Oct-99 21:17:19 Subj: Re: Stuck - LS120 From: wsonna@ibm.net (William Sonna) On Mon, 25 Oct 1999 23:31:51, patrick.palmer@dtn.ntl.com wrote: > > Warp 4 fixpack 11 - 8.4Meg Hard drive (so right drivers are there?). > OS2 doesn't find the LS120 drive (either slave or master - I won't be > caught twice by that). Naturally works fine under NT on same machine. > > This is a tad frustrating. I would welcome ideas/answers. > > Patrick I had the sane problem. Put: "basedev=IBMATAPI.FLT" in your config.sys file. I won't lie to you and say it works very well, but it is at least tolerable from the command line. It does work quite q bit better on Win '98. But then, you've got to use Win '98. Good Luck --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Global Network Services - Remote Access Mail & Ne (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: derwin@airmail.net 26-Oct-99 00:48:12 To: All 26-Oct-99 05:14:19 Subj: FP12 - Trap 00d From: Dale Erwin I just installed FP12 today, then when I tried to reboot, I got the following trap: ------------------------------ Exception in Device Driver: ES18691$ Trap 00d ERRCE=0084 ERRAC=**** ERLIM=******** EAX=fde20084 EBX=ffff0000 ECX=00004e88 EDX=00000000 ESI=9692001e EDI=00000291 EBP=00004eaa FLG=00213246 CS:EIP=2ae0:00004260 CSACC=0096 CSLIM=000068d0 SS:ESP=0030:00004ea6 SSACC=1097 SSLIM=00003fff DS=2ad8 DSACC=0093 DSLIM=00002bf0 CR0=8001001b ES=2ad8 ESACC=0093 ESLIM=00002bf0 CR2=ffe1813a FS=0000 FSACC=**** FLSIM=******** GS=0000 GSACC=**** GSLIM=******** The system detected an internal processing error at location ##0168:fff4832e - 0000:c32e. 600000, 9084 05860570 Internal Revision 9.036, 99/07/20 The system is stopped. Record all of the above information and contact your service representative. ------------------------------ Seems that I have heard it said before that not much of this information is beneficial to determining the cause of the trouble. I am sure the first line is important though. After several unsuccessful tries to reboot, I booted from Utility disks and REMed out the two lines in config.sys with that driver name in it. I was then able to reboot, but now I have no audio. Does anyone know of a workaround, or am I going to have to backout the entire fixpack? -- Dale Erwin Dallas, Texas --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Erwin Technology Corporation (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: admin@hotmail.com 26-Oct-99 08:43:16 To: All 26-Oct-99 10:18:02 Subj: Old DOS games too fast From: admin@hotmail.com (Edmond Dantes) I just got the Ultima collection CD. The first two run fine in DOS boxes except for one thing. They are way too fast even when I use MOSLO at .1%. I can't slow my machine at the hardware level. I've tried to nest two MOSLO's with the command: moslo /.1 moslo /.1 ultima.exe to no avial. I get the automatic help screen from MOSLO when I do this. It looks like MOSLO is interperating it as an incorrect parameter string instead if nesting. Are there any kinds of grouping symbols I can use to fix it? Edmond Dantes phydeaux(the 'at' thing)home.com --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: @Home Network (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: fat_ox@hotmail.com 26-Oct-99 13:18:04 To: All 26-Oct-99 10:18:02 Subj: Re: Is my blood boiling... From: "OS/2 Fan" I know the feeling. My ISP provides documentation in .doc format, a dialer, login scipt for PPP, and a browser, all of them horrific Mickeysoft rubbish. I tried calling them and got a busy signal, thought, "Great, welcome to Hellenistan" and gave up. I ended up guessing some setting and my OS/2 and Linux dialers did the rest, luckily. I can't stand the all-Billy crap! On Mon, 25 Oct 1999 22:36:28 -0400, lifedata@xxvol.com wrote: >It was a simple discovery. I found a web site that has better prices on >warranteed used computer equipment than any place I had ever seen. In short >order I selected a couple items I need for my parents' computer. Click! I told >the system to put an $11 dollar desktop case with a 250 watt PS into my shopping >cart. There the joy ended. > >To make a long story short, you don't buy stuff on this site unless you are >running Microsoft's Explorer! The sales manager there now has a very clear >understanding of my feelings about that. To be sure, he offered to call me >long distance to take my order. My response was that he should standardize his >site. > >My business goes elsewhere. > >Jim L >Remove XX from address to Email >Crooks and kooks will get guns regardless of laws. > > Regards, Xtralarge OS/2 fan Opinions expressed are mine only. Ignore them and killfile me. Leave the University and/or my ISP alone, I don't speak for them, they have nothing to do with it, and they probably have more lawyers than you anyway. --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: An OTEnet S.A. customer (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: wayne@SPAM.tkb.att.ne.jp 26-Oct-99 18:31:16 To: All 26-Oct-99 10:18:02 Subj: Re: Stuck - LS120 From: "Wayne Bickell" On 26 Oct 1999 00:09:02 GMT, William Sonna wrote: :>On Mon, 25 Oct 1999 23:31:51, patrick.palmer@dtn.ntl.com wrote: :> :>> :>> Warp 4 fixpack 11 - 8.4Meg Hard drive (so right drivers are there?). :>> OS2 doesn't find the LS120 drive (either slave or master - I won't be :>> caught twice by that). Naturally works fine under NT on same machine. :>> :>> This is a tad frustrating. I would welcome ideas/answers. :>> :>> Patrick :> :>I had the sane problem. :> :>Put: "basedev=IBMATAPI.FLT" in your config.sys file. :> :>I won't lie to you and say it works very well, but it is at least :>tolerable from the command line. It does work quite q bit better on :>Win '98. But then, you've got to use Win '98. :> :>Good Luck Just saw on Hobbes/incoming a replacement ibmatapi.flt from the author of danis506. Could be worth a try. Cheers Wayne ****************************************************** Wayne Bickell Tokyo, Japan wayne@tkb.att.ne.jp ****************************************************** Posted with PMINews 2 for OS/2 Running on OS/2 Warp 4 (UK) + FixPak 9 ****************************************************** --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: AT&T Internet Service (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: greybeard@centuryinter.net 26-Oct-99 05:39:02 To: All 26-Oct-99 10:18:02 Subj: Re: Fdisk and 3rd hard drive From: David Gillespie  
RCW wrote:

Do you have the latest HD driver?  The one that comes with the
installation discs won't work with a large drive.

RCW

I have the one dated 7-12-99 and it is on my install disks.  I think my system is just to old.  The last update for the system Bios was Jan. 96, nothing newer.

David --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: CENTURYinter.net (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: jwelton@my-deja.com 26-Oct-99 00:59:01 To: All 26-Oct-99 14:37:12 Subj: Re: Instructions: How To Build An OS/2 Computer From: jwelton@my-deja.com In article , dmhills@ibm.net (Don Hills) wrote: > In article <7v0715$3d9$1@nnrp1.deja.com>, jwelton@my-deja.com wrote: > >And most importantly many are missing the point. I don't > >want to call a hardware manufacturer and pay them to put > >together a machine that I could build for probably 1/4 the > >cost they will charge me - whether it be Dell or IB. I > >would like the ability to go to a web site and follow a set > >of step-by-step instructions for building my own top-notch > >OS/2 machine. From start to finish. ... > > Jeff, you're maybe missing the point yourself. You're a student, you > should know how much it costs to learn things. Hardware manufacturers > have to learn what parts work well together and which are best for a > given job. They then add the cost of doing this to the price of their > systems. It's called R & D... > > So sure, someone could build a Web site such as you described. > But site builder would first have to spend a lot of time and > effort (=money) collecting and collating information, If that "someone" is a computer fan who wants to help other computer fans then the time, effort (=money), collection and collating of information is done for the satisfaction he gets from putting it all together and knowing he is helping others. Every webmaster sitting behind a free web site, even those web sites that receive ad money to pay for their fixed web costs, offers the site for self satisfaction and personal enjoyment. They do it because they want to help others. > and buying and testing hardware. Why would the webmaster be required to buy and test hardware when there are thousands of people building their own computers every day? All he has to do is reach out for the information. Taking a few hours to search through Deja News for the best or most compatible sound card for OS/2 is free, no testing or buying of such hardware is needed because that has been done by others. > In other words, R & D. You can bet it wouldn't be a free access site. And here you are dead wrong. I spent some time last evening looking about the web and guess what? I found the site. It is at: http://www.verinet.com/pc/ And get this: the web master even recommends OS/2 Warp as an operating system to install on your newly built machine (among other non-MS operating systems). The site tells you how to decide on the system you want to build, where to buy the parts at the best possible and lowest prices and ties it all together with step-by-step building instructions, from start to finish. Did I mention the site is free? Life is good, isn't it? Jeff Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy. --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Deja.com - Before you buy. (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: nospam@nothing.com 26-Oct-99 10:30:22 To: All 26-Oct-99 14:37:12 Subj: Re: Deep trouble From: nospam@nothing.com No more help needed. It turns out that my resolv file had an allocation error, it's now been corrected by CHKDSK! I could thank myself, but i think i thank God too, that's pretty much everyone:-) - Magnus Olsson "Nothing in the affairs of men is worthy of great anxiety." - Plato --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Utfors AB (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: esther@bitranch.com 26-Oct-99 13:32:15 To: All 26-Oct-99 14:37:12 Subj: Re: Is my blood boiling... From: esther@bitranch.com (Esther Schindler) On Tue, 26 Oct 1999 12:59:04, "Jeff D. Roesner" wrote: | My ISP caters to Windows users, and I used iLink/2 and called and watched | the conversation between iLink/2 and my ISP, and finally came up with a | script. I then wrote them an OS/2 support page. | | Now I just need to make the InJoy version of the page... How nice of you! <> Most of the ISP's customers won't think to say "Thank You," so I'll say it on their behalf. --Esther --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Frontier GlobalCenter Inc. (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: spam_free_norrisg@linkline.com 26-Oct-99 08:06:11 To: All 26-Oct-99 14:37:12 Subj: Re: FP12 - Trap 00d From: "Graham C. Norris" Still whining about SDD in irrelevant places I see. Graham. --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: lsunley@mb.sympatico.ca 26-Oct-99 16:26:24 To: All 26-Oct-99 16:34:06 Subj: Re: Warp Server not able to get available memory From: lsunley@mb.sympatico.ca (Lorne Sunley) This isn't much of an idea, and you probably have tried it, but here it is anyway (actually it's a question), have you determined what the break point is in allocating larger buffer pools, like 32 MByte, 64 MByte etc? My test and development system is running WSeB and DB2 v6.1 (on a crummy 128 MByte RAM) so I can't even make an attempt to see if the large pool allocation failure happens. Lorne Sunley On Tue, 26 Oct 1999 15:39:01, dwilliams9494@my-deja.com wrote: > Thanks, Scott and Lorne. We have an OS/2 guru of sorts who helped us > configure HPFS386 to use an optimal cache size. > > But the problem isn't that we're running out of available memory - it's > that DB2 isn't using it. Memstat is sitting there telling us we have > 429 MB of available RAM (after DB2 startup, HPFS cache allocation, > etc), but we take the same configuration and ask for a total of 50,000 > pages (200 MB) of bufferpool and we don't get it. If we run this > configuration under Warp workstation, it works just fine. > > It's like Warp Server is limiting the amount of memory it'll give to > running programs. > > Any ideas? > > In article , > "Scott E. Garfinkle" wrote: > > On Mon, 25 Oct 1999 18:07:04 GMT, Lorne Sunley wrote: > > > > >> Is there a known problem with Warp Server making large (e.g., > 64 > > >> MB) > > >> > > of memory available to programs, such as DB2? > > Lorne is right -- it's probably hpfs386. In hpfs386.ini, add a line > that > > reads > > maxheap=2048 > > Also, if you're running commserver, look for a line in config.sys > that looks > > like > > DEVICE=C:\CMLIB\CMKFMDE.SYS > > If you find it, change it to look like > > DEVICE=C:\CMLIB\CMKFMDE.SYS /lsl=2m > > If this works, try 8m for better performance and see whether it still > works. > > > > > > > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ > Before you buy. --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: MBnet Networking Inc. (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: seg@NOSPAM-us.ibm.com 26-Oct-99 13:02:07 To: All 26-Oct-99 16:34:06 Subj: Re: Warp Server not able to get available memory From: "Scott E. Garfinkle" On Tue, 26 Oct 1999 15:39:01 GMT, dwilliams9494@my-deja.com wrote: >But the problem isn't that we're running out of available memory - it's >that DB2 isn't using it. Memstat is sitting there telling us we have >429 MB of available RAM (after DB2 startup, HPFS cache allocation, I guarantee you that it IS a case of memory allocation, somehow. Please check the parameters I suggested. I doubt that memstat is telling you anything meaningful. --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: NCSD OS/2 Service (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: hunters@thunder.indstate.edu 26-Oct-99 15:49:17 To: All 26-Oct-99 16:34:06 Subj: Re: Interesting TrueType tid-bit... From: hunters@thunder.indstate.edu In article , "Jaime A. Cruz, Jr." wrote: > I tried it on Win98. No *.TTF files at all on that system. Check a > *.FOT file, though, and found "Windows! Windows! Windows!" inside of > it. Guess someone at Redmond woke up and found the string everyone > is talking about and decided to do something about it. Haven't tried > it on WinNT yet... if I remember I'll try it at the office today. Win9X, and probably NT too, likes to pretend that fonts are something besides a file on your drive. Try: Start->Run command.com dir /s /a /p *.ttf They're probably in c:\windows\fonts\ You'll need a hexeditor or use edit.com in a DOS-box. -- -Steven Hunter *OS/2 Warp 4 * | hunters@thunder.indstate.edu *AMD K6-2 400* | Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy. --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Deja.com - Before you buy. (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: hunters@thunder.indstate.edu 26-Oct-99 15:46:02 To: All 26-Oct-99 16:34:06 Subj: Re: Interesting TrueType tid-bit... From: hunters@thunder.indstate.edu In article , "Wayne Bickell" wrote: > I see it, right at the top of the file. So? :-) > > Excuse me if I'm thick. When was TrueType developed? Late 80's, right? When did OS/2 get built-in TrueType support? With Warp4 in '96, right? Makes me wonder just what the heck was going on! :) -- -Steven Hunter *OS/2 Warp 4 * | hunters@thunder.indstate.edu *AMD K6-2 400* | Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy. --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Deja.com - Before you buy. (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: donm@ftel.net 26-Oct-99 16:01:27 To: All 26-Oct-99 16:34:06 Subj: Re: java icq & ibm lava 1.1.8 From: donm@ftel.net (Don Morse) In message <3810de7c$1$feq$mr2ice@news.cwcom.net> - Steve Drewell writes: :> :>On Fri, 22 Oct 1999 at 13:36 (PDT), "Rodney D. Myers" :> wrote: :> :>>is anyone experiencing trouble getting icq (java) to run with ibm java :>>1.1.8? :> :>>it was working before I upgraded to 1.1.8. now I don't get anything. :> :> :>I can get it to work, but on exit my machine totally locks up and requires :>a reboot. It never locked up with 1.1.7, but more than a few things have :>changed on my machine recently so I can't say whether the problem lies :>with 1.1.8 (with the latest fixes) or not. :> :>Cheers, :>Steve :>-- :>Steve Drewell (Remove x. from address to reply) :>_____________________________________________________________ :>Using IBM OS/2 Warp 4 running 27 processes with 140 threads. :>Machine uptime is 2 days, 22 hours, 45 mins and 8 secs. :>_____________________________________________________________ :> :> Just loaded, messaged, and closed down ICQJava here with 1.1.8 and the latest Java fixpacks installed. No problem. Did it with this message window open to email the results.... The results you're describing are more like the "chat" results... it still doesn't work properly. Warp 4, fp12 Java 1.1.8 and latest fp's Matrox Mystique with 2.31.1 driver OD 2.0 Styler/2 1.02 ******************************************************** If a million monkeys on typewriters can eventually type out the Bible, given enough time. Then Bill Gates had 25 monkeys and a week! ******************************************************** dmorse@pacificnet.net using Merlin and EmTec News ICQ 245937, AOL IM merlinof2 www.blackpalace.com ******************************************************** --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Franklin interNet http://www.franklin.net (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: hunters@thunder.indstate.edu 26-Oct-99 15:56:04 To: All 26-Oct-99 16:34:06 Subj: Re: Old DOS games too fast From: hunters@thunder.indstate.edu In article , admin@hotmail.com (Edmond Dantes) wrote: > I just got the Ultima collection CD. The first two run fine in DOS > boxes except for one thing. They are way too fast even when I use > MOSLO at .1%. I can't slow my machine at the hardware level. > > I've tried to nest two MOSLO's with the command: > > moslo /.1 moslo /.1 ultima.exe > > to no avial. > > I get the automatic help screen from MOSLO when I do this. > > It looks like MOSLO is interperating it as an incorrect parameter > string instead > if nesting. No. The real problem here is MoSlo's algorhthyms(sp). You're probably running at least a Pentium, right? Well most "586" and above level CPUs have the ability to optimize-out repetative instructions. So when MoSlo runs, the first couple of loops really do slow down the CPU, but then the CPU's logic sees that it's the same thing every loop, and just stores the results somewhere to spit up without even executing the loop. Or so I've been told... :) -- -Steven Hunter *OS/2 Warp 4 * | hunters@thunder.indstate.edu *AMD K6-2 400* | Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy. --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Deja.com - Before you buy. (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: bv@mail.bv.no 26-Oct-99 16:40:22 To: All 26-Oct-99 16:34:06 Subj: Re: Interesting TrueType tid-bit... From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Bj=F8rn?= Vermo hunters@thunder.indstate.edu wrote: > In article , > doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net (Doug Bissett) wrote: > > > I am not sure what you find so "interesting". > > HexEdit (or open in e.exe) any .TTF file, and look for some familiar > text... You may recognize it as the name of an IBM made PC Operating > system. > > I've done this on Win95 machines too. Very interesting to say the least. > Nothing mysterious about it. Just check the specification: OS/2 - OS/2 and Windows Metrics The OS/2 table consists of a set of metrics that are required in OpenType fonts. There are two versions of this table, the second version having five additional fields: sxHeight, sCapHeight, usDefaultChar, usBreakChar, usMaxContext. The name of the table (i.e. the keyword you search for to find it) is OS/2. This is a table Windows needs, so it obviously has to be present in Windows font files. I suppose the table was named at a time when everybody believed Windows would soon disappear. --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Norbionics (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: bv@mail.bv.no 26-Oct-99 16:57:16 To: All 26-Oct-99 16:34:06 Subj: Re: Floppies/Utilities again From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Bj=F8rn?= Vermo Doug Bissett wrote: > ... > which means they are a "boot anywhere" setup. They put all of the > drivers on the diskettes, and use sniffers to determine which ones to > use (not a very good approach, IMO). > Scenario: Your computer emits a cloud of smoke and goes down. A defective power supply has fried your SCSI adapter, which is of a type no longer available. You replace it, and try to boot from your emergency diskettes in order to install the new drivers to the boot disk and edit your config.sys. Unfortunately, the utility which created the emergency diskettes did not put in any "unneccessary" device drivers... Except for the last sentence, I have seen this happen. I like the IBM philosophy of not taking any chances. You can customize what goes on the diskettes - it is somewhere in the CID documentation. Remove drivers for some obviously non-critical device type, but not for anything you might need after some unlikely event. --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Norbionics (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: bv@mail.bv.no 26-Oct-99 17:47:29 To: All 26-Oct-99 16:34:06 Subj: Re: Instructions: How To Build An OS/2 Computer From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Bj=F8rn?= Vermo Martin Nisshagen wrote: > > However, in some cases you can save a lot of money. This especially if you are > willing to tweak the components. In my own case I build a dirt cheap dual > processor system who would have costed me at least 3x times as much as a > supported machine with the same performance from vendors like IBM or HP. > This, of course, is true. Compared to brand name, you can build something with the same performance (in the areas of importance to you) cheaper. However, depending on the local competition between small system integrators, is is not unlikely that they will sell it ready-made for about the same price you can build it for, given the same kind of corner cutting. One of the cheapest parts mail order/retailers here will assemle it for free if you buy parts for NOK 10000. That is, of course, a bit more than the retail price for an IBM PC-330GL with OS/2 preload... --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Norbionics (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: lifedata@xxvol.com 26-Oct-99 14:01:08 To: All 26-Oct-99 16:34:06 Subj: Re: Bootos2 options From: lifedata@xxvol.com If they are command line parameters WHY the *%$@#%(^&^@#$%%R&*) (&^*&^@^&#*&^$#^&&^$%#*(^&&^%^$#^%$#$%*((&$#$^&%$(*&%*^%#^#(*&%*^%$&$%^(*&)(*&^ (*&^%$)(&^&(*#$@#&*_)^*%%#%$(*&((*^%&^*_)((&*)&*%(*&#$$*(*&$#@$#&^%^%#&&*(^$#$# @&^@*(&^*^%##$*(*&^*^%#$ don't the docs SAY SO? >But aren't they only command-line parameters? I don't recall any interactive >options. >> In the Bootos2 docs there is a long list of options. But when I run Bootos2 I >> never get a chance to select any options. It just takes off making a run. What >> on earth is going on? Jim L Remove XX from address to Email Crooks and kooks will get guns regardless of laws. --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: bCandid - Powering the world's discussions - http (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: mgreene@exis.net 26-Oct-99 15:46:26 To: All 26-Oct-99 20:25:01 Subj: Re: Warp Server not able to get available memory From: "Michael K Greene" On Mon, 25 Oct 1999 13:53:58 GMT, dwilliams9494@my-deja.com wrote: >When we installed Warp 4.0 workstation on the same PC with the same >database version, the problem went away and it all worked fine. > >Is there a known problem with Warp Server making large (e.g., > 64 MB) >of memory available to programs, such as DB2? I'm not a Lan Server expert, but I found this a bit back and maybe it is an option. If not it would allow you to down to the Warp 3 base. http://www.sbt.net.au/sbt/WServeronW4/0000fm.htm >Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ >Before you buy. Michael K Greene | OS/2 Warp / Linux / Win95-311 --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Exis Net Inc (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: abeagley@datatone.com 26-Oct-99 14:31:09 To: All 26-Oct-99 20:25:02 Subj: Re: Bootos2 options From: Alan Beagley I thought it was clear from the examples that were given in the docs. that hey were command-line parameters. Alan lifedata@xxvol.com wrote: > If they are command line parameters WHY the *%$@#%(^&^@#$%%R&*) > (&^*&^@^&#*&^$#^&&^$%#*(^&&^%^$#^%$#$%*((&$#$^&%$(*&%*^%#^#(*&%*^%$&$%^(*&)(*&^ (*&^%$)(&^&(*#$@#&*_)^*%%#%$(*&((*^%&^*_)((&*)&*%(*&#$$*(*&$#@$#&^%^%#&&*(^$#$# @&^@*(&^*^%##$*(*&^*^%#$ > don't the docs SAY SO? > > >But aren't they only command-line parameters? I don't recall any interactive > >options. > > >> In the Bootos2 docs there is a long list of options. But when I run Bootos2 I > >> never get a chance to select any options. It just takes off making a run. What > >> on earth is going on? > > Jim L > Remove XX from address to Email > Crooks and kooks will get guns regardless of laws. --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: bCandid - Powering the world's discussions - http (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: cbzh@my-deja.com 26-Oct-99 17:45:00 To: All 26-Oct-99 20:25:02 Subj: Re: Interesting TrueType tid-bit... From: cbzh@my-deja.com In article <7uvlpg$nur$1@nnrp1.deja.com>, hunters@thunder.indstate.edu wrote: > > > Hmmmm... Hex-edit (or just open in e.exe) a TrueType Font file... > > Anyone else see some interesting text in there? :) > > I've checked some TTF files on other people's computers, and it's the > same thing. Fonts that OS/2 doesn't even know I have, also have this. > > What the heck is up with that?? Funny, really! I went to "Wotsit" (http://www.wotsit.org) to look for a specification of the ttf format and I really found a document describing it: - First 12 Bytes are the "offset table" - Then comes the tables directory, each entry starting with a 4 byte table name with 12 bytes extra info appended. Some tables seem to be mandatory, others optional. This is a citation from the M$ document: "" Required Tables Tag Name cmap character to glyph mapping glyf glyph data head font header hhea horizontal header hmtx horizontal metrics loca index to location maxp maximum profile name naming table post PostScript information OS/2 OS/2 and Windows specific metrics "" ...so it really HAS to be there!!? Greetings, Cornelis > > -- > -Steven Hunter *OS/2 Warp 4 * | > hunters@thunder.indstate.edu *AMD K6-2 400* | > > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ > Before you buy. > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy. --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Deja.com - Before you buy. (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: lifedata@xxvol.com 26-Oct-99 14:05:24 To: All 26-Oct-99 20:25:02 Subj: Re: Floppies/Utilities again From: lifedata@xxvol.com I guess it would FLAT OUT KILL THEM to fix the code so it would use more disks to hold the increases size of files. Bj rn Vermo said: > try to boot from your emergency diskettes in order to install the new drivers >to the boot disk and edit your config.sys. Unfortunately, the utility which >created the emergency diskettes did not put in any "unneccessary" device >drivers... >Except for the last sentence, I have seen this happen. I like the IBM >philosophy of not taking any chances. You can customize what goes on the >diskettes - it is somewhere in the CID documentation. Remove drivers for some >obviously non-critical device type, but not for anything you might need after >some unlikely event. Jim L Remove XX from address to Email Crooks and kooks will get guns regardless of laws. --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: bCandid - Powering the world's discussions - http (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: seg@NOSPAM-us.ibm.com 26-Oct-99 13:01:04 To: All 26-Oct-99 20:25:02 Subj: Re: GAH! Got a Trap error on our print server! Help! From: "Scott E. Garfinkle" os2ddpak: http://service.software.ibm.com/os2ddpak/ -- follow the links into DASD drivers and then to your particular driver. You should end up downloading 7800fam.exe (I think). You can easily see what IRQ your adaptec is using using "rmview /IRQ". Many LAN drivers do not, however, register with RMVIEW, so it's hard to say. It's the sort of thing you have to mess around a lot with in BIOS, etc., as I gather you know. I have seen many occasions where adaptec cards are sharing an IRQ with a network card. This is allowed by PCI spec -- it's just a question of the drivers and firmware.... Why it used to work and not now? Beats me. Maybe something changed on your LAN. Also, I forget whether you said your printer was attached locally or not. If it is, you should add "/IRQ" to your print01.sys line. I hope this is more helpful. --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: NCSD OS/2 Service (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: derwin@airmail.net 26-Oct-99 13:08:08 To: All 26-Oct-99 20:25:02 Subj: Re: FP12 - Trap 00d From: Dale Erwin jwelton@my-deja.com wrote: > Dale Erwin wrote: > > I just installed FP12 today, then when I tried to reboot, I got the > following trap: > ------------------------------ > Exception in Device Driver: ES18691$ > Trap 00d ERRCE=0084 ERRAC=**** ERLIM=******** > EAX=fde20084 EBX=ffff0000 ECX=00004e88 EDX=00000000 > ESI=9692001e EDI=00000291 EBP=00004eaa FLG=00213246 > CS:EIP=2ae0:00004260 CSACC=0096 CSLIM=000068d0 > SS:ESP=0030:00004ea6 SSACC=1097 SSLIM=00003fff > DS=2ad8 DSACC=0093 DSLIM=00002bf0 CR0=8001001b > ES=2ad8 ESACC=0093 ESLIM=00002bf0 CR2=ffe1813a > FS=0000 FSACC=**** FLSIM=******** > GS=0000 GSACC=**** GSLIM=******** > The system detected an internal processing error at > location ##0168:fff4832e - 0000:c32e. > 600000, 9084 > 05860570 > Internal Revision 9.036, 99/07/20 > The system is stopped. Record all of the above > information and contact your service representative. > ------------------------------ > Seems that I have heard it said before that not much of this > information is beneficial to determining the cause of the trouble. > I am sure the first line is important though. After several > unsuccessful tries to reboot, I booted from Utility disks and REMed > out the two lines in config.sys with that driver name in it. I was > then able to reboot, but now I have no audio. > > Does anyone know of a workaround, or am I going to have to > backout the entire fixpack? > -- > Dale Erwin > Dallas, Texas > > Yes, I can tell you. I suffered through this problem again and > again while trying to bring my system back to a useable state > after trying a poor beta program called SciDisplay Doctor. > I tried all of the available updates, including the updated driver from > the ESS site itself and the driver from that Indelible Blue guy's site > and still failed. And then some kind soul named Osmo told me to > go here: > > http://service.software.ibm.com/os2ddpak/html/2632ADD962A12DA3852561B20 > 04F42F4.html > > and download IBM's version of the ESS drivers. You need to copy all > the files over to a floppy because the install program works only from > the A: drive but once the menu comes up, I told it to use the files > (which I had copied over to the A: drive floppy) found in the original > temp directory where I first unzipped them. Don't know why but that > worked. I don't have WinOS/2 on my system so I didn't bother with the > WinOS/2 driver, just the straight ess1688 driver. This version brought > my sound system back to normal. > > Hope it works for you. > > Jeff > > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ > Before you buy. Thanks for the reply, Jeff. I'm just wondering, though, since you say this is the ES1688 driver and I need the ES1869 driver if this is really the correct driver. IBM does have another entry on that site for the ES1869 device, but the driver is not mainained by them but by ESS. I looked at their site, too, and I don't find anything specific toOS/2. Is it possible that the ES1688 driver could be used on the ES1869 device? As long as it took me to get my computer running again last night, I am a little gun-shy to just try it. Suggestions anyone? -- Dale Erwin Dallas, Texas --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Erwin Technology Corporation (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: greybeard@centuryinter.net 26-Oct-99 14:47:25 To: All 26-Oct-99 20:25:02 Subj: Re: Fdisk and 3rd hard drive From: David Gillespie No, sorry.  I am new at posting to news groups.  I do NOT see the tags  when I look at the message I posted.  But I do see them in yours.  What is going on?

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--- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: CENTURYinter.net (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: benbowc@tui.lincoln.ac.nz 27-Oct-99 07:56:21 To: All 26-Oct-99 20:25:02 Subj: Re: Stuck - LS120 From: Craig Benbow I had similar troubles and still don't know what exactly it was that fixed it. Have you got the latest drivers down from the device drivers pack and installed them? There are continual improvements going on in the removable media arena so keep an eye out for the new drivers as they become available. BTW I am on FP 12 so I'm not sure what is broken in FP11. Apparently there are some parameters that can be set on the IBMATAPI.FLT as well but I haven't found a list yet. If you look at hte file you can see where they are parsed but no explanations go with. Craig William Sonna wrote: > On Mon, 25 Oct 1999 23:31:51, patrick.palmer@dtn.ntl.com wrote: > > > > > Warp 4 fixpack 11 - 8.4Meg Hard drive (so right drivers are there?). > > OS2 doesn't find the LS120 drive (either slave or master - I won't be > > caught twice by that). Naturally works fine under NT on same machine. > > > > This is a tad frustrating. I would welcome ideas/answers. > > > > Patrick > > I had the sane problem. > > Put: "basedev=IBMATAPI.FLT" in your config.sys file. > > I won't lie to you and say it works very well, but it is at least > tolerable from the command line. It does work quite q bit better on > Win '98. But then, you've got to use Win '98. > > Good Luck --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Lincoln University (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: jeffr@warsawcoil.com 26-Oct-99 14:34:28 To: All 26-Oct-99 20:25:02 Subj: Re: Is my blood boiling... From: "Jeff D. Roesner" wrote in message news:3815d5d3$4$yvsrqngn$mr2ice@news.vol.com... > I didn't get a thank you from my ISP. Nor would they even USE the support stuff > I offered. I have the good fortune of having a system administrator with a past that includes OS/2. He used to run a PCBoard BBS under OS/2, so he does still have some feelings for OS/2. Now he's a FreeBSD freak...but he still says OS/2 is a great system... Reminds me of a story about him that I have to share... Another friend of mine had a Warp 3 installation, and he had this one app that would cause his system to crash. Everytime he rebooted, the rogue app would start up again, disabling the system. The desktop couldn't even load. So after some head scratching we called in Jim (my ISP's sysadmin). Jim comes over and takes a look at it. He sat down in the easy chair in the back of the room, started to rub his temples (I thought the temple rubbing was weird) and then began to speak... "Put in your config.sys SET... SET RESTART... RESTARTOBJECTS EQUAL STARTUPFOLDER.... No, STARTUPFOLDERS... STARTUPFOLDERSONLY." We fixed the config.sys (using DOS, as his OS/2 install was on a FAT partition) and it took care of the problem. What really freaked me out was he rubbed his temples the whole time he was telling us what to put in the config.sys! He bailed us out of that one, and it's a story that still amazes me. I'm glad he's my sysadmin for my ISP... --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: KC Online - HoosierLink (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: raphaelt@netnews.worldnet.att.net 26-Oct-99 16:01:06 To: All 26-Oct-99 20:25:02 Subj: Re: FP12 - Trap 00d From: raphaelt@netnews.worldnet.att.net (Raphael Tennenbaum) Dale Erwin wrote: > > >jwelton@my-deja.com wrote: > >> Dale Erwin wrote: >> >> I just installed FP12 today, then when I tried to reboot, I got the >> following trap: >> ------------------------------ >> Exception in Device Driver: ES18691$ >> Trap 00d ERRCE=0084 ERRAC=**** ERLIM=******** >> EAX=fde20084 EBX=ffff0000 ECX=00004e88 EDX=00000000 >> ESI=9692001e EDI=00000291 EBP=00004eaa FLG=00213246 >> CS:EIP=2ae0:00004260 CSACC=0096 CSLIM=000068d0 >> SS:ESP=0030:00004ea6 SSACC=1097 SSLIM=00003fff >> DS=2ad8 DSACC=0093 DSLIM=00002bf0 CR0=8001001b >> ES=2ad8 ESACC=0093 ESLIM=00002bf0 CR2=ffe1813a >> FS=0000 FSACC=**** FLSIM=******** >> GS=0000 GSACC=**** GSLIM=******** >> The system detected an internal processing error at >> location ##0168:fff4832e - 0000:c32e. >> 600000, 9084 >> 05860570 >> Internal Revision 9.036, 99/07/20 >> The system is stopped. Record all of the above >> information and contact your service representative. >> ------------------------------ >> Seems that I have heard it said before that not much of this >> information is beneficial to determining the cause of the trouble. >> I am sure the first line is important though. After several >> unsuccessful tries to reboot, I booted from Utility disks and REMed >> out the two lines in config.sys with that driver name in it. I was >> then able to reboot, but now I have no audio. >> >> Does anyone know of a workaround, or am I going to have to >> backout the entire fixpack? >> -- >> Dale Erwin >> Dallas, Texas >> >> Yes, I can tell you. I suffered through this problem again and >> again while trying to bring my system back to a useable state >> after trying a poor beta program called SciDisplay Doctor. >> I tried all of the available updates, including the updated driver from >> the ESS site itself and the driver from that Indelible Blue guy's site >> and still failed. And then some kind soul named Osmo told me to >> go here: >> >> http://service.software.ibm.com/os2ddpak/html/2632ADD962A12DA3852561B20 >> 04F42F4.html >> >> and download IBM's version of the ESS drivers. You need to copy all >> the files over to a floppy because the install program works only from >> the A: drive but once the menu comes up, I told it to use the files >> (which I had copied over to the A: drive floppy) found in the original >> temp directory where I first unzipped them. Don't know why but that >> worked. I don't have WinOS/2 on my system so I didn't bother with the >> WinOS/2 driver, just the straight ess1688 driver. This version brought >> my sound system back to normal. >> >> Hope it works for you. >> >> Jeff >> >> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ >> Before you buy. > >Thanks for the reply, Jeff. I'm just wondering, though, since you say this > >is the ES1688 driver and I need the ES1869 driver if this is really the >correct driver. IBM does have another entry on that site for the ES1869 >device, but the driver is not mainained by them but by ESS. I looked at >their site, too, and I don't find anything specific toOS/2. Is it possible >that >the ES1688 driver could be used on the ES1869 device? > >As long as it took me to get my computer running again last night, I am a >little gun-shy to just try it. > >Suggestions anyone? >-- >Dale Erwin >Dallas, Texas > It's possible that those drivers would have worked, but -- I've got an 1869 ESS as well, but I remmed out the drivers before adding FP12, and then once I was satisfied as to its stability, I deleted the lines and then hastened to this page of Duane Chamblee's fine OS/2 "subsite" at Indelible Blue: http://duanec.indelible-blue.com/fixes/LatestWarp4.html and read the links pertaining to ESS cards. I ended up downloading 1869215a.zip and installing it, and it works great. -- Ray Tennenbaum '99 YZF-R6 readme@ http://www.ray-field.com --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: AT&T WorldNet Services (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: lifedata@xxvol.com 26-Oct-99 16:33:11 To: All 26-Oct-99 20:25:02 Subj: Re: Bootos2 options From: lifedata@xxvol.com Alan Beagley said: >I thought it was clear from the examples that were given in the docs. that hey >were command-line parameters. Well, after some head scratching I figure you must mean where it says Syntax then shows a list that looks like a config.sys or something. Gads, every command line program I've used (and I avoid tham as a rule) at LEAST puts such things under the heading of - could you believe this even if you tried...: Command Line Paramaeters. I HATE - H A T E it when documentations writers assume you know what they are talking about. Documentation is supposed to TELL you. Unless, of course, you only WANT experts to use the software in the first place. Same old story. Programmers writing for programmers instead of writing for program users. Grrrrrrrr. Jim L Remove XX from address to Email Crooks and kooks will get guns regardless of laws. --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: bCandid - Powering the world's discussions - http (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: patrick.palmer@dtn.ntl.com 26-Oct-99 20:58:07 To: All 26-Oct-99 20:25:02 Subj: Re: partition magic for os/2 From: patrick.palmer@dtn.ntl.com I used version 4 to set up this 8.4Gig hard drive, with bootmanager os2 and NT, copying from a 1Gig. There was some problem with PM not agreeing with OS2 over the disk format, but in the end there was something wrong. I had to run chkdsk from an os2 blue screen after booting from floppy, to tidy everything up. Then I ran PQmagic from floppy after booting a DOS disk. It comes up with the graphics and handles HPFS fine. I think in moving to the US temporarily I may have got some settings wrong (took a box of bits with me!). In the end I reinstalled OS2 and things are running really well now (except my LS120!). I couldn't reinstall NT as I did not have the CD with me - but its fine. WOuld I buy it again? Probably not - the license is really restrictive and it's expensive. Hope that is helpful. Patrick John Thompson wrote: > > In , Dale Erwin writes: > > >It seems that not having an OS/2 executable is not the only drawback > >to version 4. According to another poster, Sushenjit Bandyopadhyay, > >the DOS version lacks some capabilities with HPFS partitions and I > >do NOT have Win32 on my machine, nor am I likely to ever have it. > > I haven't seen this problem. Just a couple weeks ago I used the > DOS Partition Magic to resize and move my HPFS and ext2 > partitions on my second HD to make room for another bootable HPFS > partition. It went just fine. > > -John (John.Thompson@attglobal.net) --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: NTL Internet News Service (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: tipu996@my-deja.com 26-Oct-99 12:43:27 To: All 26-Oct-99 20:25:02 Subj: Re: Help - OS2 boot procedure From: tipu996@my-deja.com Yes, it was the graphics card driver. Reset to VGA did it. Thanks for all the replies. Tipu Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy. --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Deja.com - Before you buy. (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: lifedata@xxvol.com 26-Oct-99 16:28:16 To: All 26-Oct-99 20:25:02 Subj: 4.61 doing reload again. From: lifedata@xxvol.com I just had another opportunity to save an HTM page twice. 4.61 GA reloads the page the second and third times. I didn't try a third time. I checked and the page is definitely IN the cache. It is a large page. Perhaps smaller ones don't do that. I'll check. Jim L Remove XX from address to Email Crooks and kooks will get guns regardless of laws. --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: bCandid - Powering the world's discussions - http (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: raphaelt@netnews.worldnet.att.net 26-Oct-99 16:40:16 To: All 26-Oct-99 20:25:02 Subj: Re: Fdisk and 3rd hard drive From: raphaelt@netnews.worldnet.att.net (Raphael Tennenbaum) David Gillespie wrote: > > >No, sorry.  I am new at posting to news groups.  I do NOT see >the tags  when I look at the message I posted.  But I do see >them in yours.  What is going on? >

Stan Goodman wrote: >

Do you feel that the HTML tags add something important >or interesting to >
your postings? >

On Tue, 26 Oct 1999 10:31:21, David Gillespie <greybeard@centuryinter.net> >
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Israel Select Edit/Preferences, expand "Mail & Newsgroups," select Formatting: under Message formatting indicate "Use the plain text editor to compose messages." -- Ray Tennenbaum '99 YZF-R6 readme@ http://www.ray-field.com --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: AT&T WorldNet Services (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: bv@mail.bv.no 26-Oct-99 20:40:18 To: All 26-Oct-99 21:24:08 Subj: Re: Warp Server not able to get available memory From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Bj=F8rn?= Vermo dwilliams9494@my-deja.com wrote: > ... > But the problem isn't that we're running out of available memory - it's > that DB2 isn't using it. Memstat is sitting there telling us we have > 429 MB of available RAM (after DB2 startup, HPFS cache allocation, > etc), but we take the same configuration and ask for a total of 50,000 > pages (200 MB) of bufferpool and we don't get it. If we run this > configuration under Warp workstation, it works just fine. > > It's like Warp Server is limiting the amount of memory it'll give to > running programs. > > Any ideas? > It is a long time since I last installed DB/2 and I do not remember the important issues, but maybe you should look at the install log? Perhaps something did not go quite as it should, but still works on the client? A tiny misplaced comma or semicolon in a config file or installation script? Other ways to isolate the cause: Install the server software on the Warp 3 client where it works, but do not install 386 HPFS. Does this work? If yes, install 386 HPFS. That should be identical to your server. If it works, you have somehow removed the cause of the problem. If not, you have pinpointed it. --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Norbionics (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: dwilliams9494@my-deja.com 26-Oct-99 15:39:00 To: All 26-Oct-99 21:24:09 Subj: Re: Warp Server not able to get available memory From: dwilliams9494@my-deja.com Thanks, Scott and Lorne. We have an OS/2 guru of sorts who helped us configure HPFS386 to use an optimal cache size. But the problem isn't that we're running out of available memory - it's that DB2 isn't using it. Memstat is sitting there telling us we have 429 MB of available RAM (after DB2 startup, HPFS cache allocation, etc), but we take the same configuration and ask for a total of 50,000 pages (200 MB) of bufferpool and we don't get it. If we run this configuration under Warp workstation, it works just fine. It's like Warp Server is limiting the amount of memory it'll give to running programs. Any ideas? In article , "Scott E. Garfinkle" wrote: > On Mon, 25 Oct 1999 18:07:04 GMT, Lorne Sunley wrote: > > >> Is there a known problem with Warp Server making large (e.g., > 64 > >> MB) > >> > > of memory available to programs, such as DB2? > Lorne is right -- it's probably hpfs386. In hpfs386.ini, add a line that > reads > maxheap=2048 > Also, if you're running commserver, look for a line in config.sys that looks > like > DEVICE=C:\CMLIB\CMKFMDE.SYS > If you find it, change it to look like > DEVICE=C:\CMLIB\CMKFMDE.SYS /lsl=2m > If this works, try 8m for better performance and see whether it still works. > > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy. --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Deja.com - Before you buy. (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: lsunley@mb.sympatico.ca 26-Oct-99 22:34:22 To: All 26-Oct-99 21:24:09 Subj: Re: Boot Failure From: lsunley@mb.sympatico.ca (Lorne Sunley) Your machine has a installation of the "Warp Server for e-Business" beta on it. There may be a time-out set in the code (I don't know if this is true or not). That message usually is a result of the hard drive CHS (cylinder, head, sector) values in the BIOS not matching the values that the drive was formatted with and/or (in Warp 4 installs) the drive specs being larger than the drive size the IDE disk driver can handle (this is usually not true for WSeB). If you were able to boot from this partition before then the WAG about disk specs is a bad WAG. The release version of Warp Server for e-Business is 14.039F Lorne Sunley On Tue, 26 Oct 1999 19:42:17, "Valheru" wrote: > I need some help. I have warp for e business internal rev 14.020f uni. It no > longer boots up. I get to the splash screen and all of a sudden it beeps and > I see the message that os/2 cannot control the hard disks or diskette > drives, the system is stopped, correct the preceding error and continue. > Now, I have a backup image of the drive from Norton Ghost but when I go to > restore it I noticed that the free space on the target drive is now almost 1 > meg more than it was. Has the boot part of the drive been wiped out somehow? > In Ghost it only showed one partition which I have a copy of. I used my NT > computer to view the drive, all the files and folders are there, I just can > boot it up. This computer was given to me so I don't have an installation > disks. It appears to me that if I can get any copy of warp and make a > bootable disk to get to the cmd prompt, than I should be able to adjust > config.sys and autoexec to then run off of the c: drive right? HELP > > > --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: MBnet Networking Inc. (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: Valheru@guesswhere.com 26-Oct-99 18:49:09 To: All 26-Oct-99 21:24:09 Subj: Re: Boot Failure From: "Valheru" Let me know your thoughts on this...if I can just get a hold of a copy of warp v3 or v4 shouldn't I be able to format the hd and set it up for os2, then copy all of the files from the original hd(which I have backed up) and it should then boot right? Or worst case scenario, boot from a diskette and then edit config.sys and autoexe.bat to load drivers and such from the hd. Let me know. Thanks --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Global Network Services - Remote Access Mail & Ne (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: rjfreem@attglobal.net 26-Oct-99 14:57:25 To: All 26-Oct-99 21:24:09 Subj: Unable to print Solved From: rjfreem@attglobal.net During the install of the OS the IBM Null drivers were installed but not the IBM Null object. Immediately upon creating the IBM Null object the print jobs were released. Details, Details. RJF -- ----------------------------------------------------------- rjfreem@attglobal.net ----------------------------------------------------------- --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Global Network Services - Remote Access Mail & Ne (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: quasimodo@notre.dame.paris 26-Oct-99 13:04:21 To: All 26-Oct-99 21:24:09 Subj: Modem Settings From: "Paul M. Pilon" I apologize in advance if what follows seems trivial, but here goes. I currently have my new modem jumpered for COM 3, and IRQ 3. These were jumper settings on my old modem which was originally installed back in the Dark Ages when I ran Win 3.11. When I installed the new modem, I made no changes in the COM.SYS statement of my CONFIG.SYS which reads DEVICE=C:\OS2\BOOT\COM.SYS. Having done an RMVIEW /IRQ, I get the following output for IRQ3: IRQ Level = 3 PCI Pin = NONE Flg = MULTIPLEXED SERIAL_2 Serial Controller IRQ Level = 3 PCI Pin = NONE Flg = MULTIPLEXED SERIAL_3 Serial Controller Is there a problem, or potential problem with this? My system is currently operating just fine, and has been for some months. I am about to make some changes which will necessitate reinstalling OS/2, and want to get things as near to perfect for it as possible. What would be the "standard" or best settings? Thanks in advance to all who apply ************************************************************** "I have the male 'work avoidance chromosome'. I can detect unnecessary work, thereby avoiding it." -- Dilbert Paul M. Pilon Halifax, NS Canada redpilon@redfox.rednstn.ca To reply, get rid of the 3 "red"s . ************************************************************** --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: PSINet (CA-TORONTO-FEED) (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: rgibson@ix.netcom.com 26-Oct-99 22:35:12 To: All 26-Oct-99 21:24:09 Subj: Re: Instructions: How To Build An OS/2 Computer From: rgibson@ix.netcom.com (Ron Gibson) On Mon, 25 Oct 1999 22:49:50, "Doug Darrow" wrote: > >I don't > >want to call a hardware manufacturer and pay them to put > >together a machine that I could build for probably 1/4 the > >cost they will charge me - whether it be Dell or IB. > Forget that. Those days are gone. You, as an individual, can't buy the > individual components for even 5% less than the big boys will sell you > a new system for...INCLUDING labor and bundled software! Now, if you're > talking quality of components or workmanship, that's another story -- > but you aren't gonna beat their price. I don't know where you're shopping at but to get the same machine that I just built, no on board components, with a mid size tower it would have cost me over $1200. Mine cost $700, a PII-400. And it works with ALL operating systems. If you don't have software, that's another story. If you want the absolute basics and only want to run W98 then an emachine is a good idea. email: rgibson@ix.netcom.com --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: MindSpring Enterprises (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: ilya@math.ohio-state.edu 27-Oct-99 00:25:20 To: All 28-Oct-99 10:23:11 Subj: Re: Warp Server not able to get available memory From: ilya@math.ohio-state.edu (Ilya Zakharevich) [A complimentary Cc of this posting was sent to ], who wrote in article <7v4hul$5ue$1@nnrp1.deja.com>: > But the problem isn't that we're running out of available memory - it's > that DB2 isn't using it. Memstat is sitting there telling us we have > 429 MB of available RAM (after DB2 startup, HPFS cache allocation, > etc), but we take the same configuration and ask for a total of 50,000 > pages (200 MB) of bufferpool and we don't get it. If we run this > configuration under Warp workstation, it works just fine. No wonder! You should have started with this. You cannot have more than circa 220M of virtual memory allocated by an application (at least with the "standard" setup). Some people claim that tweaking things a bit here and a bit there moves this boundary, but only a tiny bit. This is the part of "640K should be enough for anything" mentality which is hardwired into the way OS/2 memory manager works. I have seen claims that WSeB lifts this barrier *a lot*, but you need a special option to DosAllocMem() (sp?), and the allocated addresses are (probably?) useless as arguments to many system calls (those which go through 16bit calls). Ilya P.S. Again, it is virtual memory, so it has nothing to do with the amount of "free" memory on your system (whatever this might mean). --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Department of Mathematics, The Ohio State Univers (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: frank_mckenney@mindspring.com 27-Oct-99 00:12:24 To: All 28-Oct-99 10:23:11 Subj: Re: Fdisk and 3rd hard drive From: frank_mckenney@mindspring.com (Frank McKenney) In <3814702F.1166F7B2@isomedia.com>, "David T. Johnson" writes: >David Gillespie wrote: >> >> I recently installed a third hard drive, a WD 13gig on a Warp 4 >> system. I partitioned it and formatted the partitions HPFS. The >> problem is, I want to add one of the partitions to the bootmanager >> menu but Fdisk will not let me. The only options that show up when I >> run fdisk is: >> delete partition and set startup value when I select any partition on >> that drive. I have even tried using the install disks but still no >> go. Will this not work??? Any help is appreciated. > >Try setting the drive as LBA in the BIOS setup. Then see if FDISK will >give you the boot manager option. If yes, select the >add-to-boot-manager option, reformat the hard drive, and off ya go. David... er, I mean, "David"... Oh, the heck with it! (;-) I can think of two reasons why BootManager would not be happy with a partition on third drive: 1) "High" end of the paritition is above the BIOS 1024 "cylinder" limit. If you've partitioned the drive in OS/2, then the output from FDISK /QUERY should tell you if this is the case. 2) The drive/partition are not visible at boot time because your System or HD adapter BIOS don't recognize / support booting from this drive. Now, one might _hope_ that any System BIOS "current" enough to, say, auto-recognize an IDE drive or set "LBA" mode on it would allow booting from that drive, but I can't presonally swear to it (;-). Hope this helps... Frank McKenney, McKenney Associates Richmond, Virginia / (804) 320-4887 E-mail: frank_mckenney@mindspring.com --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: McKenney Associates (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: jwelton@my-deja.com 26-Oct-99 23:11:03 To: All 28-Oct-99 10:23:11 Subj: Re: FP12 - Trap 00d From: jwelton@my-deja.com In articleDale Erwin wrote: jwelton@my-deja.com wrote: > Dale Erwin wrote: > > I just installed FP12 today, then when I tried to reboot, I > got the following trap: > ------------------------------ > Exception in Device Driver: ES18691$ > Trap 00d ERRCE=0084 ERRAC=**** > EAX=fde20084 EBX=ffff0000 ECX=00004e88 EDX=00000000 > ESI=9692001e EDI=00000291 EBP=00004eaa FLG=00213246 > CS:EIP=2ae0:00004260 CSACC=0096 CSLIM=000068d0 > SS:ESP=0030:00004ea6 SSACC=1097 SSLIM=00003fff > DS=2ad8 DSACC=0093 DSLIM=00002bf0 CR0=8001001b > ES=2ad8 ESACC=0093 ESLIM=00002bf0 CR2=ffe1813a > FS=0000 FSACC=**** FLSIM=******** > GS=0000 GSACC=**** GSLIM=******** > The system detected an internal processing error at > location ##0168:fff4832e - 0000:c32e. > 600000, 9084 > 05860570 > Internal Revision 9.036, 99/07/20 > The system is stopped. Record all of the above > information and contact your service representative. > ------------------------------ > Seems that I have heard it said before that not much of this > information is beneficial to determining the cause of the > trouble. > I am sure the first line is important though. After several > unsuccessful tries to reboot, I booted from Utility disks and > REMed out the two lines in config.sys with that driver name > in it. I was then able to reboot, but now I have no audio. > > Does anyone know of a workaround, or am I going to have to > backout the entire fixpack? > -- > Dale Erwin > Dallas, Texas > > Yes, I can tell you. I suffered through this problem again and > again while trying to bring my system back to a useable state > after trying a poor beta program called SciDisplay Doctor. > I tried all of the available updates, including the updated > driver from the ESS site itself and the driver from that > Indelible Blue guy's site and still failed. And then some > kind soul named Osmo told me to go here: > > http://service.software.ibm.com/os2ddpak/html/2632ADD962A12DA3852561B20 > 04F42F4.html > > and download IBM's version of the ESS drivers. You need to copy > the files over to a floppy because the install program works from > the A: drive but once the menu comes up, I told it to use the files > (which I had copied over to the A: drive floppy) found in the > temp directory where I first unzipped them. Don't know why but it > worked. I don't have WinOS/2 on my system so I didn't bother with > WinOS/2 driver, just the straight ess1688 driver. This version > brought my sound system back to normal. > > Hope it works for you. Thanks for the reply, Jeff. I'm just wondering, though, since you say this is the ES1688 driver and I need the ES1869 driver if this is really the correct driver. IBM does have another entry on that site for the ES1869 device, but the driver is not mainained by them but by ESS. I looked at their site, too, and I don't find anything specific toOS/2. Is it possible that the ES1688 driver could be used on the ES1869 device? As long as it took me to get my computer running again last night, I am a little gun-shy to just try it. Suggestions anyone? -- Dale Erwin Dallas, Texas All I know Dale is that I tried the files from the sites you mentioned and I still got the screen of Trap death. I KNEW it worked before with FP12 (and prior to the SciTech Display Doctor Preview). It was AFTER I completely reinstalled OS/2 then downloaded and install the FP12 upgrade that I got the Trap D error. Someone had mentioned remming it out to get your system back online and that worked. So I used TWO config.sys files, one with and another without the ESS drivers remmed out. The only 'chore' was having to boot from install disks with each trial/error ESS packages. The one from the ESS.com site (it looks almost identical to the IBM package) failed. The individual driver from Duane's WarpUPdate site also failed. Try going to the IBM site offering the ESS version download packages. Maybe IBM checked those drivers to make sure they worked (whereas, the ESS.com site hasn't checked them since their original release dates) and select and install the version for your particular ESS card. I'm crossing my fingers it will work for you. Here's the IBM site address for ALL the ESS driver packages : http://service.software.ibm.com/os2ddpak/html/multimed/esstechn/index.h tm Jeff Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy. --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Deja.com - Before you buy. (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: rgibson@ix.netcom.com 26-Oct-99 23:45:03 To: All 28-Oct-99 10:23:11 Subj: Re: Changing CDROM From: rgibson@ix.netcom.com (Ron Gibson) On Tue, 26 Oct 1999 00:34:12, lsunley@mb.sympatico.ca (Lorne Sunley) wrote: > The older versions of the OS/2 drivers would also work with > that configuration. The IDE specification says that having > a SLAVE with no MASTER is an illegal combination for > the IDE bus. IBM fixed the driver to work according to the > specification. Hmmm...works fine on my system on the secondary channel. I have it set up with a master removable HDD, cold swap. The CDROM is a slave. It works fine whether or not the master is plugged in. email: rgibson@ix.netcom.com --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: MindSpring Enterprises (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: forkd4nisse@dtek.chalmers.se 27-Oct-99 03:09:00 To: All 28-Oct-99 10:23:11 Subj: Re: Modems (again?) From: Martin Nisshagen Richard Steiner [FIELDATA FORTRAN ENTHUSIASTS CLUB] -> comp.os.os2.misc: ¯ >> FWIW, USR Couriers have text-based flash software which runs in ¯ >> DOS, and which I believe runs just fine in a VDM. ¯ > ¯ >Confirmed. My 1995-vintage Courier Dual Standard has had one u/g ¯ >that way. ¯ ¯ Thanks for the confirmation. I boot to DOS to upgrade, but I figured ¯ that it might work in a VDM. Now I know. :-) Yes, I have flashed it under both OS/2 and NTVDM without any problem. ¯ >> They aren't inexpensive, however. ¯ > ¯ >Compared with the ultra-el-cheapos, certainly. I think it's a ¯ >case of amortising that cost over a long and contented lifetime. ¯ ¯ I really believe that my Courier is worth every penny I paid for it! Same here. Has been of great value and very reliable for many years (even if I'm soon to ditch it because of a change to ISDN). The free and good quality flash upgrades has been a big part of what made it a very good choice IMO. Best regards, m a r t i n | n -- Martin Nisshagen PGP 6.5: 0x45D423AC K R A F T W E R K :) CS/CE, Chalmers, Sweden ICQ UIN: 689662 2 x 300A @ 450 MHz d4nisse-at-dtek-chalmers-se home2.pp.sbbs.se/mn home2.pp.sbbs.se/mn/kw --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Chalmers University of Technology, Sweden (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: forkd4nisse@dtek.chalmers.se 27-Oct-99 03:09:03 To: All 28-Oct-99 10:23:11 Subj: Re: Instructions: How To Build An OS/2 Computer From: Martin Nisshagen Bj›rn Vermo [Norbionics] -> comp.os.os2.misc: ¯ > However, in some cases you can save a lot of money. This especially if you are ¯ > willing to tweak the components. In my own case I build a dirt cheap dual ¯ > processor system who would have costed me at least 3x times as much as a ¯ > supported machine with the same performance from vendors like IBM or HP. ¯ ¯ This, of course, is true. Compared to brand name, you can build something with the ¯ same performance (in the areas of importance to you) cheaper. However, depending on ¯ the local competition between small system integrators, is is not unlikely that they ¯ will sell it ready-made for about the same price you can build it for, given the ¯ same kind of corner cutting. In cases as my own I'm pretty sure it wouldn't have been possible with all the tweaking I have done to the system (including patching the processors by drilling and soldering on them). You also usually don't get even 1/10 of the components available on the market from your local PC shop (they simply can't afford to have that big selection). I also admit that I have a VAR discount on a lot of components, but with all the new Internet sales and web shops everything has changed, and you can get almost the same good price if you shop around (in same cases even lower than my normal retail price from my main distributor). Your local traditional computer shop around the corner can't beat the virtual stores in price (I don't joke when I say they can beat major distributors). Also add the fact that I wouldn't trust the local shop to build the machine in a proper way. Also add to that I don't think they usually are aware of all the latest tweaking and other info compared to the best web sites (like Tom's Hardware Guide, Ars-Technica, Sharky Extreme, Thresh's FiringSquad, etc). In addition all that I also always like to do my own custom install of all operating systems, be it OS/2, NT or some Unix distribution (even this very notebook I type on right now (no custom machine at all) who came with NT4WS pre installed I reformatted very quickly to do my own custom install of it). All this said I *fully* agree it's not the same for normal end users. They probably much better of with a tested ready-to-run system with full support. Best regards, m a r t i n | n -- Martin Nisshagen PGP 6.5: 0x45D423AC K R A F T W E R K :) CS/CE, Chalmers, Sweden ICQ UIN: 689662 2 x 300A @ 450 MHz d4nisse-at-dtek-chalmers-se home2.pp.sbbs.se/mn home2.pp.sbbs.se/mn/kw --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Chalmers University of Technology, Sweden (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: forkd4nisse@dtek.chalmers.se 27-Oct-99 03:09:04 To: All 28-Oct-99 10:23:11 Subj: Re: Interesting TrueType tid-bit... From: Martin Nisshagen hunters@thunder.indstate.edu [Deja.com - Before you buy.] -> comp.os.os2.misc: ¯ > I am not sure what you find so "interesting". ¯ ¯ HexEdit (or open in e.exe) any .TTF file, and look for some familiar ¯ text... You may recognize it as the name of an IBM made PC Operating ¯ system. ¯ ¯ I've done this on Win95 machines too. Very interesting to say the least. It's actually very simple (at least for any who knows the history of OS/2): IIRC the TTF specification was written down by Apple and Microsoft - who at that time developed both OS/2 and it's successors (like NT, who at that time also was called OS/2 3.0 and Portable OS/2), and the name tag for the PC TTF files simply got to use the OS/2 label identification. Best regards, m a r t i n | n -- Martin Nisshagen PGP 6.5: 0x45D423AC K R A F T W E R K :) CS/CE, Chalmers, Sweden ICQ UIN: 689662 2 x 300A @ 450 MHz d4nisse-at-dtek-chalmers-se home2.pp.sbbs.se/mn home2.pp.sbbs.se/mn/kw --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Chalmers University of Technology, Sweden (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: forkd4nisse@dtek.chalmers.se 27-Oct-99 03:09:05 To: All 28-Oct-99 10:23:11 Subj: Re: Is my blood boiling... From: Martin Nisshagen OS/2 Fan [An OTEnet S.A. customer] -> comp.os.os2.misc: ¯ I know the feeling. My ISP provides documentation in .doc format, a Tip: Have you tried for example Star Office? Even if I think pure ASCII is better (if you don't need the formatting), I actually prefer .doc, or even better .html, format instead of for example the typical .pdf files (another property format as well, but not easy to edit). Best regards, m a r t i n | n -- Martin Nisshagen PGP 6.5: 0x45D423AC K R A F T W E R K :) CS/CE, Chalmers, Sweden ICQ UIN: 689662 2 x 300A @ 450 MHz d4nisse-at-dtek-chalmers-se home2.pp.sbbs.se/mn home2.pp.sbbs.se/mn/kw --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Chalmers University of Technology, Sweden (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: lsunley@mb.sympatico.ca 27-Oct-99 01:12:20 To: All 28-Oct-99 10:23:11 Subj: Re: Boot Failure From: lsunley@mb.sympatico.ca (Lorne Sunley) On Tue, 26 Oct 1999 22:49:19, "Valheru" wrote: > Let me know your thoughts on this...if I can just get a hold of a copy of > warp v3 or v4 shouldn't I be able to format the hd and set it up for os2, > then copy all of the files from the original hd(which I have backed up) and > it should then boot right? Or worst case scenario, boot from a diskette and > then edit config.sys and autoexe.bat to load drivers and such from the hd. > Let me know. Thanks > Yes that should work as long as you don't copy over any of the operating system files when you copy the data from the backup. You will have to update the Warp 3/4 diskettes with the IBMDASD.EXE update for large hard drives when you do the Warp install. (If your hard drive is 4.3 gig or more) Lorne Sunley --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: MBnet Networking Inc. (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: spam_free_norrisg@linkline.com 26-Oct-99 18:30:24 To: All 28-Oct-99 10:23:11 Subj: Re: Bootos2 options From: "Graham C. Norris" How much exactly did you pay for what you are complaining about? Enough for a professional Technical Writer to be employed to document it? No, I thought not. Just be glad someone creates programs like these and then doesn't charge anything for them. Graham. --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: ccsten@usa.net 26-Oct-99 21:34:03 To: All 28-Oct-99 10:23:11 Subj: Re: FP12 - Trap 00d From: Terry Norton Go to: ftp://ftp.esstech.com.tw/OS2/1869215a.zip This is the version that works with FP 10, 11, & 12. Dale Erwin wrote: > > I just installed FP12 today, then when I tried to reboot, I got the > following trap: > > Does anyone know of a workaround, or am I going to have to > backout the entire fixpack? > -- > Dale Erwin > Dallas, Texas -- Terry Norton Warped with OS/2 I started out with nothing & still have most of it left. --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Together Networks - Burlington, VT. (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: Valheru@guesswhere.com 26-Oct-99 21:34:29 To: All 28-Oct-99 10:23:14 Subj: Re: Boot Failure From: "Valheru" The drive is only 1.275 gig for that system. Question, once the drive is formated and bootable, even if I did copy over all operating system files, wouldn't it still boot since having a bootable partition seems to be the only problem I am having? --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Global Network Services - Remote Access Mail & Ne (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: jawetzel@alum.mit.edu 27-Oct-99 02:30:28 To: All 28-Oct-99 10:23:14 Subj: Program Object Problem ... From: jawetzel@alum.mit.edu I'm trying to use an environment variable as a parameter of a program object. Usually I would use %VARNAME% but "%" has special meaning when present on the parameter line. Is there any work around for this? Thanks in advance. Jake Wetzel --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Global Network Services - Remote Access Mail & Ne (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: MtLavinia_nospam@nym._nospam.ali... 26-Oct-99 19:34:13 To: All 28-Oct-99 10:23:14 Subj: FP12 trap. Pls help Message sender: MtLavinia_nospam@nym._nospam.alias.net From: "Lavinia" I've installed FP12 over FP8. It all went well, and on reboot the locked drivers were applied. When the boot continues, I get numerous traps, all sys3175. The first one is for smstart.exe. There are numerous other traps, among them - \mptn\bin\cntrl.exe, \mptn\bin\inetwait, ibmcom\protocol\nbtcp.exe, \mptn\bin\vdosctl.exe, and finally it grinds to a halt with pmmerge.dll. The trap is the same for all, 0C0000005H which is XCPT_ACCESS_VIOLATION and the P1 code is 00000001H which is XCPT_READ_ACCESS. Can anyone tell me why these errors are occuring? I commented out smstart but the other traps still happen. What can I do to get FP12 to boot? I backed out to FP8 but would like to get 12 installed. Any suggestions? Lavinia remove '_nospam' from address block for email --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: NeverUmind (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: piquant00@uswestmail.net 27-Oct-99 03:13:03 To: All 28-Oct-99 10:23:14 Subj: Re: Fdisk and 3rd hard drive From: piquant00@uswestmail.net (Annie K.) On Tue, 26 Oct 1999 19:47:50, David Gillespie wrote: : : :No, sorry.  I am new at posting to news groups.  I do NOT see :the tags  when I look at the message I posted.  But I do see :them in yours.  What is going on? Go to Edit-->Preferences-->Mail and Newsgroups-->Formatting, and check 'Use the plain text editor to compose messages' and 'Convert the message into plain text.' -- Klaatu barada nikto --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Team OS/2 (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: lsunley@mb.sympatico.ca 27-Oct-99 03:14:16 To: All 28-Oct-99 10:23:14 Subj: Re: Boot Failure From: lsunley@mb.sympatico.ca (Lorne Sunley) On Wed, 27 Oct 1999 01:34:58, "Valheru" wrote: > The drive is only 1.275 gig for that system. Question, once the drive is > formated and bootable, even if I did copy over all operating system files, > wouldn't it still boot since having a bootable partition seems to be the > only problem I am having? > It might work, it depends on why the volume won;t boot. There could be a problem with LVM (Logical Volume Manager) has to mark the partition and assign it a drive letter for WSeB to use. The WSeB code that you copy in will expect the LVM drive assignment info. Lorne Sunley --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: MBnet Networking Inc. (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: lifedata@xxvol.com 26-Oct-99 23:09:01 To: All 28-Oct-99 10:23:14 Subj: Pimple on my desktop's face From: lifedata@xxvol.com Somewhere along the way a new object has appeared on my desktop. It bears the DOS window icon. Its name is MAKEDSKS.BAT. An RMB on this object gets me a menu without a delete item on it. Properties indicates its home only as desktop. If I attempt to drag it onto my shredder, I get the "Big No-no" sign (minus sign) on the dragging icon. I think this thing appeared when I was looking at some files on my OS/2 system installation CD. Anybody have any idea how to send to that big object heaven in the sky? Jim L Remove XX from address to Email Crooks and kooks will get guns regardless of laws. --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: bCandid - Powering the world's discussions - http (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: gnilsen@smartt.com 27-Oct-99 03:20:29 To: All 28-Oct-99 10:23:14 Subj: Re: ADSL connection in Victoria From: gnilsen@smartt.com (Gordon Nilsen) On Mon, 25 Oct 1999 19:21:40, "Frank Rusko" wrote: > Does anyone in Victoria have experience in setting up ADSL and > who lives in the Victoria B.C. area. > > ADSL is supplied here in the Victoria area, but I am not too > comfortable in setting it up myself any help would be > appreciated. > > I would be willing to reimburse anyone who can get it up and > running for me. > > Thank you in advance > > > > Hi Frank I live in Burnaby, so we must have the same system. Set your hostname in config.sys. Mine is set hostname=a2axxxxx.smartt.bconnected.net Then open tcpcfg, using lan0, enable interface and set Automatically, using DHCP. Thats it. Use DHCP monitor to check your setup. --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: 2ic Systems Inc. (SmarttNet) (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: lifedata@xxvol.com 26-Oct-99 23:30:16 To: All 28-Oct-99 10:23:14 Subj: Re: Bootos2 options From: lifedata@xxvol.com "Graham C. Norris" said: >How much exactly did you pay for what you are complaining about? Enough for a >professional Technical Writer to be employed to document it? No, I thought >not. So it it's free it should be poorly done? Jim L Remove XX from address to Email Crooks and kooks will get guns regardless of laws. --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: bCandid - Powering the world's discussions - http (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: enaud@bellsouth.net 26-Oct-99 23:39:19 To: All 28-Oct-99 10:23:14 Subj: Re: FP12 trap. Pls help From: Duane Chamblee I've seen this... I bet you didn't remove Process Commander before installing this fixpak. Try removing it and rerun FP12. You may be able to reinstall PC, but I suggest that you don't. Lavinia wrote: > > I've installed FP12 over FP8. It all went well, and on reboot > the locked drivers were applied. > > When the boot continues, I get numerous traps, all sys3175. The first one is > for smstart.exe. There are numerous other traps, among them - > \mptn\bin\cntrl.exe, \mptn\bin\inetwait, ibmcom\protocol\nbtcp.exe, > \mptn\bin\vdosctl.exe, and finally it grinds to a halt with pmmerge.dll. > > The trap is the same for all, 0C0000005H which is XCPT_ACCESS_VIOLATION and > the P1 code is 00000001H which is XCPT_READ_ACCESS. > > Can anyone tell me why these errors are occuring? I commented out smstart > but the other traps still happen. What can I do to get FP12 to boot? > > I backed out to FP8 but would like to get 12 installed. --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Origin Line 1 Goes Here (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: esther@bitranch.com 27-Oct-99 03:40:01 To: All 28-Oct-99 10:23:14 Subj: Re: Is my blood boiling... From: esther@bitranch.com (Esther Schindler) On Tue, 26 Oct 1999 16:24:01, lifedata@xxvol.com wrote: | I didn't get a thank you from my ISP. Nor would they even USE the support stuff | I offered. Well, either that says something about the quality and responsiveness of your ISP, or it says something about your ability to give them a customer benefit for free. There are plenty of ISPs -- and other businesspeople -- who think that "keep it simple" means "eliminate all the options." Some of them can be educated. Some can't. --Esther --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Frontier GlobalCenter Inc. (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: cjii@my-deja.com 26-Oct-99 17:04:19 To: All 28-Oct-99 10:23:14 Subj: OS/2 Around the World!!! - New Page From: CII OS/2 Around the World is a page listing Links of sites we did not know existed, and a few that we knew existed but probably forgot about. At least that is the focus. You can see the site: http://trss.webjump.com/os2atw.htm -- http://trss.webjump.com Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy. --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Deja.com - Before you buy. (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: raphaelt@netnews.worldnet.att.net 27-Oct-99 00:05:10 To: All 28-Oct-99 10:23:14 Subj: Re: Bootos2 options From: raphaelt@netnews.worldnet.att.net (Raphael Tennenbaum) lifedata@xxvol.com wrote: >"Graham C. Norris" said: > >>How much exactly did you pay for what you are complaining about? Enough for a >>professional Technical Writer to be employed to document it? No, I thought >>not. > >So it it's free it should be poorly done? > Come on, Jim, it isn't poorly done at all. It says Syntax: BOOTOS2 etc. It's really hard for me to imagine you've been using OS/2 as long as you have and can't fathom that the options listed after BOOTOS2 are command-line parameters. Surely you didn't think that you could just type BOOTOS2 at a command line and it would read your mind and figure what drive you wanted to install to, and what kind of installation you desired? Or maybe I should say: intrinsic in the way such a program as BOOTOS2 is made and documented is that if you DON'T understand how it will work or can't be bothered to read the documentation to figure how it will work then you SHOULDN'T be using it. -- Ray Tennenbaum '99 YZF-R6 readme@ http://www.ray-field.com --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: AT&T WorldNet Services (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: spam_free_norrisg@linkline.com 26-Oct-99 21:24:05 To: All 28-Oct-99 10:23:14 Subj: Re: Bootos2 options From: "Graham C. Norris" I don't think it is poorly done at all. It seems crystal clear to me. Since you are probably the first person ever to have a problem with it, the problem may not lie with the documentation. Graham. --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: spam_free_norrisg@linkline.com 26-Oct-99 21:22:05 To: All 28-Oct-99 10:23:14 Subj: Re: Pimple on my desktop's face From: "Graham C. Norris" Drag it to a floppy. Remove floppy. Gone! Graham. --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: morgannalefey@my-deja.com 26-Oct-99 15:56:28 To: All 28-Oct-99 10:23:14 Subj: Re: GAH! Got a Trap error on our print server! Help! From: Siobhan Perricone In article , "Scott E. Garfinkle" wrote: > On Tue, 26 Oct 1999 12:54:47 GMT, Siobhan Perricone wrote: > > >\OS2\BOOT\AIC7870.ADD > ... > >I've sent this to the PSF/2 guy I was working with via e-mail, so hopefully it will help.... First off, I can't begin to tell you how much I appreciate your helping me. However... > He won't know what to do with it, I would think. First thing you should do is > get the latest version of the driver from the online ddpak. It's dtd 4/99. > Second thing to do is to see whether your LAN card is sharing an IRQ with the > AIC7870. Perhaps one of the drivers is defective in its interrupt sharing. IF what you're saying is going to mean anything to me, you have *got* to take time to be detailed in your responses to me. I grok that I need an updated driver, but I don't know where it is. I don't know how to see if my LAN card (I have two of them) is sharing an IRQ with the AIC7870. They should NOT be, this was working just fine before, and it was quite painful going through the set up on this system. Again, I don't want to seem ungrateful, but I really need you to give me details on how to do these things. WHERE is the updated driver? What's the "online ddpack"? How do I figure out what IRQ the AIC7870 is using? How do I change it, keeping in mind that I had a hell of a problem with IRQs when I was setting up these cards in the first place? I should also point out that I don't understand why this would become a problem all the sudden. If we're talking about IRQ problems, why was the current set up working? -- Siobhan Perricone PC Technician Alltel Information Services (I only speak for myself, not for Alltel) Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy. --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Deja.com - Before you buy. (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: os2ddproject@turbolink.net 27-Oct-99 04:45:25 To: All 28-Oct-99 10:23:14 Subj: New OS/2 device driver development From: os2ddproject@turbolink.net (OS/2 Device Driver Project) Due to the current (sad) state of OS/2 device driver development, I've decided to try and start a project for getting new device drivers written for OS/2. It's an attempt to match device driver demand with OS/2 developers. I'd like to orgranize OS/2 users and try to get a feel for what device drivers are needed, and how many people need what, etc. Part of my idea is to organize a sort of 'buying pool' for device drivers, where individuals will agree to pay $X to sponsor development of a driver for device X, then have available OS/2 driver developers 'bid' for the project. I'd like some input from users who have devices they'd like to see drivers for, and also driver developers. I think it's naive to believe 'somebody' is going to write all the drivers that we need. I also think it's naive to beleive that we're going to get everything we want for free. We need to organize the demand and the talent, and put them together. Send me your thoughts. os2ddproject@turbolink.net. - Mike --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: bCandid - Powering the world's discussions - http (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: letoured@nospam.net 26-Oct-99 19:52:17 To: All 28-Oct-99 10:23:14 Subj: Re: Interesting TrueType tid-bit... From: letoured@nospam.net >When was TrueType developed? Late 80's, right? When did OS/2 get built-in >TrueType support? With Warp4 in '96, right? >Makes me wonder just what the heck was going on! :) When OS2 was built the world lived with the fonts in printers, or PostScript fonts if quality was needed. PS was built in to OS2. Most TT fonts were awful until about 95, and still suck quality wise. Few professionals use them. -- Of course there are millions who think they are professional or at least that they can get professional results with Arial and MS Word. The same people get dumb looks when you try to explain the problem. A few of the TT fonts that have come with Windows are pretty good for screen display, but they lack the hintings that are in PS fonts. ANd they are only good at all because M$ hired Monotype to build them. _____________ Ed Letourneau --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: bCandid - Powering the world's discussions - http (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: spamonoloawmg@yesic.com 27-Oct-99 01:29:01 To: All 28-Oct-99 10:23:14 Subj: Re: ADSL connection in Victoria From: "andrew g" On Mon, 25 Oct 1999 12:21:40 -0700 (PDT), Frank Rusko wrote: >Does anyone in Victoria have experience in setting up ADSL and >who lives in the Victoria B.C. area. Is this the Bell Sympatico High Speed Edition stuff? If it is, and if you get it running under OS/2, will you please post a detailed journal of how you did it? Thanks, andrew --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Introits and Graduals (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: hamei@pacbell.net 27-Oct-99 05:55:11 To: All 28-Oct-99 10:23:15 Subj: Re: what brand and model PC today to buy for OS/2 ? From: hamei@pacbell.net In <3814628F.7260975C@mail.bv.no>, =?iso-8859-1?Q?Bj=F8rn?= Vermo writes: >Richard Steiner wrote: > >> Here in comp.os.os2.misc, =?iso-8859-1?Q?Bj=F8rn?= Vermo >> spake unto us, saying: >> >> >OK - IBM (real thing, not the Aptiva) are reliable beyond the obsolescence >> >point. The IBM PC-xxx comes in models with OS/2, while the servers come in >> >versions with no OS (or even with no disk installed). The Intellistation >> >series does not support OS/2 well. >> >> Huh. This must have seriously changed in the past few years. >> >> One of the boxes I use Warp 4 on here is an IBM IntelliStation Z Pro >> (the older Z Pro model 6899 based on the PPro/200 processor), and it >> has been formally certified by IBM to run with both Warp 3 and Warp 4. >> > >Yes, the change seems to have happened during the last year or so. The problem >is not that they do not run OS/2, the problem is that there are no OS/2 drivers >for the new graphic acellerators. At least in the price list I have from a >local dealer, the Intellistation does not officially support Windows 9x or >OS/2. uh, if I may reword your statement then ? the IntelliStation does not have OS/2 drivers for the Intergraph video card . . . otherwise, OS/2 support is fine. Some Intellistations come with Matrox cards, in which case you could say these were well supported. Since OS/2 has no applications that can *use* the Intergraph card, it's kind of a moot point ! and I notice Scitech indicates possible support for the Intergraph chips . . hooray ! on a related note, I deleted the preinstalled NT immediately on my 'station, had a hell of a time later reinstalling it - had to turn off sound support in the BIOS for NT to get past the black screen with the little dots . . . IBM warranty/tech support was friendly, but not much good in this case -- but I DID get to berate them severely that OS/2 had been running happily for six months without a hiccup, while NT refused to install. Doesn't do any good, but one can't help beating IBM over the head with their own product. > >It is really a pity, for the top end IBM Intellistation Z Pro is almost a match >for an Intergraph TDZ 2000, and in some cases even faster. But then, there is >not much OS/2 software around to use all that Open GL capability. At least not >enough to justify a USD 10k computer. Boot Manager . . . NT for CAD, OS/2 for everything else. At least it's better than being stuck in Windows for everything. --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: SBC Internet Services (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: Valheru@guesswhere.com 26-Oct-99 15:42:08 To: All 28-Oct-99 10:23:15 Subj: Boot Failure From: "Valheru" I need some help. I have warp for e business internal rev 14.020f uni. It no longer boots up. I get to the splash screen and all of a sudden it beeps and I see the message that os/2 cannot control the hard disks or diskette drives, the system is stopped, correct the preceding error and continue. Now, I have a backup image of the drive from Norton Ghost but when I go to restore it I noticed that the free space on the target drive is now almost 1 meg more than it was. Has the boot part of the drive been wiped out somehow? In Ghost it only showed one partition which I have a copy of. I used my NT computer to view the drive, all the files and folders are there, I just can boot it up. This computer was given to me so I don't have an installation disks. It appears to me that if I can get any copy of warp and make a bootable disk to get to the cmd prompt, than I should be able to adjust config.sys and autoexec to then run off of the c: drive right? HELP --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Global Network Services - Remote Access Mail & Ne (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: hamei@pacbell.net 26-Oct-99 07:27:12 To: All 28-Oct-99 10:23:16 Subj: Re: Help - OS2 boot procedure From: hamei@pacbell.net In <3815267B.E80D809@linkline.com>, "Graham C. Norris" writes: >In case quantity helps, here's another one: a failure in SINGLEQ$ means >you have a video problem. Reset to VGA and take it from there. You may >have other problems after that, but you need to take care of this first. > >Graham. probably not in this case, but just in case someone, sometime does a deja search - another thing that will cause an ERROR IN SINGLEQ$ is an older Freetype/2 DLL combined with some rogue TrueType fonts. Fixed now, I think, but happened a few times here before I figured it out. --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: SBC Internet Services (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: sjones@crosswinds.net 27-Oct-99 09:45:05 To: All 28-Oct-99 10:23:16 Subj: Re: Which protocol i use to write a os/2 program that tranfers files wi From: sjones@crosswinds.net (Scott Jones) On Tue, 26 Oct 1999 13:33:19, esther@bitranch.com (Esther Schindler) wrote: > On Tue, 26 Oct 1999 11:05:23, "Jaime A. Cruz, Jr." > wrote: > > | Maybe he just wants a coding exercise? > > Could be. But I'd have thought he'd have said so. Nah. Judging from this part of his post: >>In this problem the reciver knows nothing about the size or name of >>transferring file . it sounds like it was taken straight from the assignment his prof handed out to him. Majid, write this on the blackboard 1000 times: "I will not ask people on Usenet to do my homework for me." -- Scott Jones sjones@crosswinds.net --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Billy Bob's Possum Hatchery and Fine Lingerie (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: kllew@my-deja.com 27-Oct-99 10:56:00 To: All 28-Oct-99 10:23:16 Subj: Where can I get Microsoft C Compiler for OS/2 (version 6)? From: kllew@my-deja.com Hi, I need a copy of Microsoft C Compiler for OS/2 (version 6). Any reference? Thank you in advance. kl Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy. --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Deja.com - Before you buy. (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: fat_ox@hotmail.com 27-Oct-99 14:21:28 To: All 28-Oct-99 10:23:16 Subj: Re: Is my blood boiling... From: "OS/2 Fan" Hi Martin, Yes, I tried SO5.1 under Warp 4 FP 9, with no luck, I'm afraid. I would have been OK with HTML format also, but the contents of the .doc files they sent in the CD shall remain a mystery to me... I've got the notion PDFs are a bit slower than simply reading HTML files from NS4.61, but either would have done at this point. Good thing I didn't need the contents after all. On Wed, 27 Oct 1999 03:09:10 +0200, Martin Nisshagen wrote: >OS/2 Fan [An OTEnet S.A. customer] -> comp.os.os2.misc: > >î I know the feeling. My ISP provides documentation in .doc format, a > >Tip: Have you tried for example Star Office? > >Even if I think pure ASCII is better (if you don't need the formatting), I >actually prefer .doc, or even better .html, format instead of for example the >typical .pdf files (another property format as well, but not easy to edit). > >Best regards, > >m a r t i n | n > >-- >Martin Nisshagen PGP 6.5: 0x45D423AC K R A F T W E R K :) >CS/CE, Chalmers, Sweden ICQ UIN: 689662 2 x 300A @ 450 MHz >d4nisse-at-dtek-chalmers-se home2.pp.sbbs.se/mn home2.pp.sbbs.se/mn/kw Regards, Xtralarge OS/2 fan Opinions expressed are mine only. Ignore them and killfile me. Leave the University and/or my ISP alone, I don't speak for them, they have nothing to do with it, and they probably have more lawyers than you anyway. --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: An OTEnet S.A. customer (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: morgannalefey@my-deja.com 27-Oct-99 12:16:19 To: All 28-Oct-99 10:23:16 Subj: Re: GAH! Got a Trap error on our print server! Help! From: Siobhan Perricone In article , "Scott E. Garfinkle" wrote: > os2ddpak: http://service.software.ibm.com/os2ddpak/ -- follow the links > into DASD drivers and then to your particular driver. You should end up > downloading 7800fam.exe (I think). You can easily see what IRQ your adaptec > is using using "rmview /IRQ". Many LAN drivers do not, however, register with > RMVIEW, so it's hard to say. It's the sort of thing you have to mess around a > lot with in BIOS, etc., as I gather you know. I have seen many occasions > where adaptec cards are sharing an IRQ with a network card. This is allowed > by PCI spec -- it's just a question of the drivers and firmware.... Why it > used to work and not now? Beats me. Maybe something changed on your LAN. > Also, I forget whether you said your printer was attached locally or not. If > it is, you should add "/IRQ" to your print01.sys line. I hope this is more > helpful. Thank you for the details. I'll look into this right away. We have two network cards. One connects via TCP/IP to a Unix box that sends print jobs over. The other connects via TCP/IP to the printers. There are two separate networks and the print server is used to bridge those networks, as well as format the print jobs appropriately. AFAIK there has been nothing in the network that changed, but I don't control the entire thing, so it's hard to say for certain. :) Thanks for the help and I'll be checking into this further. -- Siobhan Perricone PC Technician Alltel Information Services (I only speak for myself, not for Alltel) Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy. --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Deja.com - Before you buy. (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: dcasey@ibm.net 27-Oct-99 07:56:20 To: All 28-Oct-99 10:23:16 Subj: Re: New OS/2 device driver development From: dcasey@ibm.net (Dan Casey) There is already a similar project in development. Warpicity, conceived by Lynn Maxson and spearheaded by VOICE proposes to do this very thing ... solicit developers to write new Device Drivers (and other changes/enhancements to the OS/2 Operating System) .. and PAY them for their work. I'm not attempting to discourage you .... but asking that you join with us in implementing this project. Cooperation is necessary so that all OS/2 users may benefit. In article <3svR3.5393$i3.297231@news21b.ispnews.com>, os2ddproject@turbolink.net (OS/2 Device Driver Project) wrote: > >Due to the current (sad) state of OS/2 device driver development, I've decided >to try and start a project for getting new device drivers written for OS/2. >It's an attempt to match device driver demand with OS/2 developers. I'd like >to orgranize OS/2 users and try to get a feel for what device drivers are needed, >and how many people need what, etc. > >Part of my idea is to organize a sort of 'buying pool' for device drivers, where >individuals will agree to pay $X to sponsor development of a driver for device X, >then have available OS/2 driver developers 'bid' for the project. > >I'd like some input from users who have devices they'd like to see drivers for, >and also driver developers. > >I think it's naive to believe 'somebody' is going to write all the drivers that we >need. I also think it's naive to beleive that we're going to get everything we >want for free. We need to organize the demand and the talent, and put them >together. > >Send me your thoughts. os2ddproject@turbolink.net. > >- Mike > -- ************************************************************** * Dan Casey * * President * * V.O.I.C.E. (Virtual OS/2 International Consumer Education * * http://www.os2voice.org * * Abraxas on IRC * * http://members.iquest.net/~dcasey * * Charter Associate member, Team SETI * * Warpstock 99 in Atlanta http://www.warpstock.org * ************************************************************** * E-Mail (subject: Req. PGP Key) for Public Key * ************************************************************** --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: V.O.I.C.E., Indianapolis, IN (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: klcroxen@fas.harvard.edu 27-Oct-99 13:25:28 To: All 28-Oct-99 10:23:16 Subj: Re: Changing CDROM From: klcroxen@fas.harvard.edu (Kevin Croxen) On 26 Oct 1999 23:45:07 GMT, Ron Gibson wrote: >On Tue, 26 Oct 1999 00:34:12, lsunley@mb.sympatico.ca (Lorne Sunley) >wrote: > >> The older versions of the OS/2 drivers would also work with >> that configuration. The IDE specification says that having >> a SLAVE with no MASTER is an illegal combination for >> the IDE bus. IBM fixed the driver to work according to the >> specification. > >Hmmm...works fine on my system on the secondary channel. I have it set >up with a master removable HDD, cold swap. The CDROM is a slave. It >works fine whether or not the master is plugged in. > > email: rgibson@ix.netcom.com > Nevertheless, Lorne is correct. This was a very well-documented change that took place with fixpack 3. And it generated a lot of usenet traffic in '97 when people discovered that their freshly fixpack-3'ed systems were hanging at boot with 1ibms506.add failing to load because the CD was on slave with an open master on controller. --Kevin --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Harvard University, Cambridge, Massachusetts (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: rplyler@us.spamNOT.ibm.com 27-Oct-99 13:52:29 To: All 28-Oct-99 10:23:16 Subj: Re: Where can I get Microsoft C Compiler for OS/2 (version 6)? From: rplyler@us.spamNOT.ibm.com (Bob Plyler) In <7v6lo0$mj4$1@nnrp1.deja.com>, kllew@my-deja.com writes: >Hi, > >I need a copy of Microsoft C Compiler for OS/2 (version 6). Any >reference? > >Thank you in advance. > >kl > You can get it from the DDK Developer Site. You have to register, but it's free. http://techsupport.services.ibm.com/ddk/ Bob Plyler IBM 3890/XP development (not an official IBM spokesperson) --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: IBM Global Services, South, RTP, NC, US (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: klcroxen@fas.harvard.edu 27-Oct-99 13:42:29 To: All 28-Oct-99 10:23:16 Subj: Re: Pimple on my desktop's face From: klcroxen@fas.harvard.edu (Kevin Croxen) Did you try from a command prompt: attrib -r c:\desktop\makedsks.bat to render the object non read-only, then deleting it? The object crept in from the root directory of the Warp CD, where it is used to make the Mega 100+ install-floppy set for Warp 4 installers lacking a CD-ROM on the target machine. --Kevin On Tue, 26 Oct 1999 23:09:02 -0400, lifedata@xxvol.com wrote: >Somewhere along the way a new object has appeared on my desktop. It bears the >DOS window icon. Its name is MAKEDSKS.BAT. > >An RMB on this object gets me a menu without a delete item on it. Properties >indicates its home only as desktop. If I attempt to drag it onto my shredder, I >get the "Big No-no" sign (minus sign) on the dragging icon. > >I think this thing appeared when I was looking at some files on my OS/2 system >installation CD. > >Anybody have any idea how to send to that big object heaven in the sky? > >Jim L >Remove XX from address to Email >Crooks and kooks will get guns regardless of laws. > > --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Harvard University, Cambridge, Massachusetts (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: esther@bitranch.com 27-Oct-99 14:29:21 To: All 28-Oct-99 10:23:17 Subj: Re: Which protocol i use to write a os/2 program that tranfers files wi From: esther@bitranch.com (Esther Schindler) On Wed, 27 Oct 1999 09:45:10, sjones@crosswinds.net (Scott Jones) wrote: | it sounds like it was taken straight from the assignment his prof handed | out to him. | Majid, write this on the blackboard 1000 times: | "I will not ask people on Usenet to do my homework for me." Could be. Good catch, Scott. Not that I can complain, really. I don't know how often I've gained the wisdom, here on Usenet, that enabled me to sound smart in print. --Esther --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Frontier GlobalCenter Inc. (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: letoured@nospam.net 27-Oct-99 10:51:05 To: All 28-Oct-99 10:23:17 Subj: Re: Bootos2 options From: letoured@nospam.net Graham C. Norris" said: >I don't think it is poorly done at all. It seems crystal clear to me. >Since you are probably the first person ever to have a problem with it, >the problem may not lie with the documentation. What is clear to one is near perfect goop to another -- especially someone who is not a computer geek. I used BootOS2 about 3 years ago. It took me a couple of hours to figure it out with a TP 560. -- And because of this thread I got the latest version and tried again. This time on a TP600. I don't know if the problem is the Thinkpads or not, but after screwing about for 45 minutes of so just now, it still don't work for me. There is something wrong with the documentation! This should be a no brainer, and yet it isn't. _____________ Ed Letourneau --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: bCandid - Powering the world's discussions - http (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: rsmits@curmudgeon.bc.ca 27-Oct-99 08:08:09 To: All 28-Oct-99 10:23:17 Subj: Re: New OS/2 device driver development From: rsmits@curmudgeon.bc.ca In <3svR3.5393$i3.297231@news21b.ispnews.com>, on 10/27/99 at 04:45 AM, os2ddproject@turbolink.net (OS/2 Device Driver Project) said: >Send me your thoughts. os2ddproject@turbolink.net. I badly want a twain driver for my UMAX Astra 610S Scanner. Bob -- ----------------------------------------------------------- rsmits@curmudgeon.bc.ca ----------------------------------------------------------- --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Islandnet.com in B.C. Canada (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: News@The-Net-4U.com 27-Oct-99 15:24:18 To: All 28-Oct-99 10:23:17 Subj: Re: OK, I must be getting spoiled so let me ask for more ... From: News@The-Net-4U.com (M.P. van Dobben de Bruijn) > jvarela@mind-spring.com (John Varela) wrote: >>>> Isn't there a facility in Warp (or an utility if it must be) that allows me >>>> to right-click on a files icon and then simply select the option to put >>>> the contents into the clipboard without the need to open an app first? >>> Pickup followed by Dump. >> Thanks. Found the PickUp and ended up with a camera near >> the pointer. No way to Dump it into the clipboard or the intended >> application (IBMworks in this case) however. What am I doing wrong? > As a test I just picked up a text file, right clicked on the EPM icon, > selected DROP --> Move from the menu, and EPM opened the file. Then I > tried it with Lotus WordPro and that worked, too. Thanks once again. As a test I did what you did with a text-file and it worked. Did the same with one of the TIF-files I originally wanted it for (as the import picture function of IBMWorks did not work on those) and that did not work. So it is a problem to "import" those TIF-pictures into my document this way, most likely because of an import-filter problem in IBM Works I guess. BTW, this method (if it worked for the TIF-files) will not gi- ve me control where (on which page) it is put in my IBMWorks doc, I fear. Regards from Leeuwarden Peter van Dobben de Bruijn --- usethenet.at.the-net-4u.com (.at. becomes @) ---- --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: TeleKabel (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: News@The-Net-4U.com 27-Oct-99 15:24:19 To: All 28-Oct-99 10:23:17 Subj: Re: OK, I must be getting spoiled so let me ask for more ... From: News@The-Net-4U.com (M.P. van Dobben de Bruijn) > jvarela@mind-spring.com (John Varela) wrote: >>> Ideally you would drag the TIFF Icon into your application's document and that >>> would be it. Since you are having problems with that, perhaps you can drag the >>> TIFF to the clipboard app. I'm not sure where it is in the folders >> Thanks that was what I was looking for: a way to get it straight into the clipboard >> without the need to open up a graphic application. However, still fail to find a way >> to do that and I am completely unaware where to find the clipboard to put it into. > I see I misunderstood what you were trying to do. No problem. Thanks for all the help once again. I think (see the other post) I would have to go the "clipboard-route) anyway, also if the simple import pickup-and-drop would work for the TIF-files I tried to do it with in IBMworks. It seems to be the only way to get control over where the picture is put in the multipage-document. > I use a freeware multiclipboard program called ManyClip, and I know > where to find its icon. Unfortunately, pickup/drop doesn't work with Must say I am very, very sorry to hear that. Regards from Leeuwarden Peter van Dobben de Bruijn --- usethenet.at.the-net-4u.com (.at. becomes @) ---- --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: TeleKabel (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: bv@mail.bv.no 27-Oct-99 16:20:26 To: All 28-Oct-99 10:23:17 Subj: Re: Instructions: How To Build An OS/2 Computer From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Bj=F8rn?= Vermo Ron Gibson wrote: > > I don't know where you're shopping at but to get the same machine that I > just built, no on board components, with a mid size tower it would > have cost me over $1200. Mine cost $700, a PII-400. And it works with > ALL operating systems. > No doubt there are some expensive dealers around, but if the $1200 you mention are of the US kind, it seems very high for the kind of machine you describe. I can buy a PII-400 HP Vectra or IBM PC from the nearest dealer for less than that. We do have very fierce competition around here, but still... 700 USD to build a top-notch PII-400 equipped computer, on the other hand, sounds good. I would have to buy parts at wholesale prices to match that with quality components. No doubt it is still possible for the knowledgeable home builder to save by building exactly the ideal configuration for his needs, but it requires a lot of time spent shopping for parts. Even the small system integrators are forced out of the market because they are no longer able to deliver better price/performance than the big, automated manufacturers. The few who are still alive around here, buy most of their parts directly from the factory in Taiwan or Korea. --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Norbionics (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: bv@mail.bv.no 27-Oct-99 16:38:11 To: All 28-Oct-99 10:23:17 Subj: Re: GAH! Got a Trap error on our print server! Help! From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Bj=F8rn?= Vermo Siobhan Perricone wrote: > ... I don't know how > to see if my LAN card (I have two of them) is sharing an IRQ with the > AIC7870. They should NOT be, this was working just fine before, and it > was quite painful going through the set up on this system. > If one of more of the cards in your system support plug and play, and if that has been activated at any time, that may explain why things cease to work. Few things are more frustrating than a system where SOME ofthe adapters decide to use pnp to reconfigure themselves. > > Again, I don't want to seem ungrateful, but I really need you to give > me details on how to do these things. WHERE is the updated driver? > One thing you ought to keep an eye on, is the IBM websites. Not only for this problem, but as a generally useful resource. OS/2 systems come with a set of URLs for appropriate websites. Some ofthem get outdated, but they usually redirect you to a place where it is possible to search for what you need. You will find most things from www.ibm.com by using the search function, or by going to the products page and selecting either the Warp server or client as appropriate. IBM have switched their page structure around before, so this is the most reliable way to find something in the more distant future. For now, I'm sure you will get exact pointers to what you need. --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Norbionics (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: ablair@ibm.net 27-Oct-99 14:10:14 To: All 28-Oct-99 10:23:17 Subj: Re: FP12 trap. Pls help From: ablair@ibm.net I seem to have done the same thing. Only problem is that after backing out to FP 10, I am left with the same problem. I tried rem'ing out the config sys lines for Process commander, but it still didn't work. Are there lines of PC that are not obvious that I might have missed ? I can get to a command prompt to do some limited adjustments. Any help is greatly appreciated. I am not looking forward to a re-install. Alex --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Global Network Services - Remote Access Mail & Ne (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: bv@mail.bv.no 27-Oct-99 15:40:05 To: All 28-Oct-99 10:23:17 Subj: Re: Warp Server not able to get available memory From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Bj=F8rn?= Vermo Ilya Zakharevich wrote: > > You cannot have more than circa 220M of virtual memory allocated by an > application (at least with the "standard" setup). Some people claim > that tweaking things a bit here and a bit there moves this boundary, > but only a tiny bit. > This is not a normal application, it is DB/2. I seem to recall that it made good use of 2GB RAM in a previous version under OS/2 2.1. At least, the server was much more responsive with more memory in it. --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Norbionics (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: djohnson@isomedia.com 27-Oct-99 09:19:21 To: All 28-Oct-99 10:23:17 Subj: Re: New OS/2 device driver development From: "David T. Johnson" OS/2 Device Driver Project wrote: > > Due to the current (sad) state of OS/2 device driver development, I've decided > to try and start a project for getting new device drivers written for OS/2. > It's an attempt to match device driver demand with OS/2 developers. I'd like > to orgranize OS/2 users and try to get a feel for what device drivers are needed, > and how many people need what, etc. > > Part of my idea is to organize a sort of 'buying pool' for device drivers, where > individuals will agree to pay $X to sponsor development of a driver for device X, > then have available OS/2 driver developers 'bid' for the project. > > I'd like some input from users who have devices they'd like to see drivers for, > and also driver developers. > > I think it's naive to believe 'somebody' is going to write all the drivers that we > need. I also think it's naive to beleive that we're going to get everything we > want for free. We need to organize the demand and the talent, and put them > together. > Well, the driver situation isn't great but, IMO, it isn't terrible either. The single biggest driver issue right now for OS/2 is getting motherboard BIOSs that will allow OS/2 to find more than 64 MB of DRAM. Many of the BIOS versions have an OS/2 memory > 64MB option but it often does not work properly. And yes, this isn't really a 'driver' issue but it is important. As for drivers, I suppose a host signal processor (HSP) modem driver would be helpful though I strongly prefer the traditional DSP modems. While many would undoubtedly disagree, I think video and printers are in pretty fair shape for OS/2 drivers. Sound cards, not so good, though some pretty good PCI drivers exist, particularly Aureal's Vortex 1 drivers. Win-OS2 sound is mostly not supported with new PCI sound cards but not something that many OS/2 users miss, IMO. Both IBM and the famous DANIS506 drivers are implementing support for DMA/66 IDE drives. Removable drives of various types are pretty well supported by IBM. So perhaps the most helpful drivers would be AGP 2x and 4x drivers and USB scanner drivers. --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: hunters@thunder.indstate.edu 27-Oct-99 16:16:18 To: All 28-Oct-99 10:23:17 Subj: Re: New OS/2 device driver development From: hunters@thunder.indstate.edu In article , dcasey@ibm.net wrote: > There is already a similar project in development. Warpicity, > conceived by Lynn Maxson and spearheaded by VOICE proposes to do this > very thing ... solicit developers to write new Device Drivers (and > other changes/enhancements to the OS/2 Operating System) .. and PAY > them for their work. Yes, but Lynn is insane. ;) Seriously tho, I haven't heard that Lynn has finished his compiler yet, so what do you do in the meantime? -- -Steven Hunter *OS/2 Warp 4 * | hunters@thunder.indstate.edu *AMD K6-2 400* | Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy. --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Deja.com - Before you buy. (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: abeagley@datatone.com 27-Oct-99 12:54:05 To: All 28-Oct-99 10:23:17 Subj: Re: New OS/2 device driver development From: Alan Beagley I thought that this OS/2 memory > 64MB setting was needed only for ancient versions of OS/2: 2.1x or older. Warp 4 finds 128MB of RAM just fine on my Asus P2B-LS mobo. Alan "David T. Johnson" wrote: > Well, the driver situation isn't great but, IMO, it isn't terrible > either. The single biggest driver issue right now for OS/2 is getting > motherboard BIOSs that will allow OS/2 to find more than 64 MB of DRAM. > Many of the BIOS versions have an OS/2 memory > 64MB option but it often > does not work properly. And yes, this isn't really a 'driver' issue but > it is important. --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: bCandid - Powering the world's discussions - http (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: lifedata@xxvol.com 27-Oct-99 13:29:18 To: All 28-Oct-99 10:23:17 Subj: Re: Bootos2 options From: lifedata@xxvol.com raphaelt@netnews.worldnet.att.net (Raphael Tennenbaum) said: >It's really hard for me to imagine you've been using OS/2 as >long as you have and can't fathom that the options listed As I said, I have stayed as far away from command line ANYTHING as possible. This is the first time, anywhere, I have seen command line switches referred to as SYNTAX. Maybe that is common as fleas on a dog where you hang out, but it is the only place I've seen it. From what little I know about command line stuff that long list of stuff would not fit on any command line anywhere - not even half of it. Therefore I thought it must be something unusual I'd never heard of. You see, not everybody eats, sleeps and breathes computer lingo. I don't use OS/2 because, as somebody said, I like the fact that it is difficult. I use it do do things. I had bootos2 in my computer archives well over a year trying to make sense of its "instructions." I dare say there are some disciplines in which I could think circles around some computer geniuses. But I would not ridicule them just because their expertise is in a different field than mine. And... It's really hard for me to imagine it would require a specially trained technical writer to simply say this "syntax" is the same thing as command line switches. This is the thing I hate about OS/2 the most. The idea that you have to think like a computer hacker to use it, and the idea that you're some kind of freak if you don't. Jim L Remove XX from address to Email Crooks and kooks will get guns regardless of laws. --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: bCandid - Powering the world's discussions - http (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: rgibson@ix.netcom.com 27-Oct-99 17:45:20 To: All 28-Oct-99 10:23:17 Subj: Re: Changing CDROM From: rgibson@ix.netcom.com (Ron Gibson) On Wed, 27 Oct 1999 13:25:57, klcroxen@fas.harvard.edu (Kevin Croxen) wrote: > Nevertheless, Lorne is correct. This was a very well-documented > change that took place with fixpack 3. And it generated a lot of > usenet traffic in '97 when people discovered that their freshly > fixpack-3'ed systems were hanging at boot with 1ibms506.add > failing to load because the CD was on slave with an open master > on controller. Well what can I say except it works fine with W98, W31, OS/2 and Linux. And I seen other post the same results. In fact that's where I got my idea. email: rgibson@ix.netcom.com --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: MindSpring Enterprises (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: piquant00@uswestmail.net 27-Oct-99 17:50:21 To: All 28-Oct-99 10:23:17 Subj: Re: Pimple on my desktop's face From: piquant00@uswestmail.net (Annie K.) On Wed, 27 Oct 1999 03:09:02, lifedata@xxvol.com wrote: :Somewhere along the way a new object has appeared on my desktop. It bears the :DOS window icon. Its name is MAKEDSKS.BAT. : :An RMB on this object gets me a menu without a delete item on it. Properties :indicates its home only as desktop. If I attempt to drag it onto my shredder, I :get the "Big No-no" sign (minus sign) on the dragging icon. Delete it from the command line. -- Klaatu barada nikto --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Team OS/2 (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: lifedata@xxvol.com 27-Oct-99 13:53:26 To: All 28-Oct-99 10:23:17 Subj: Re: Pimple on my desktop's face From: lifedata@xxvol.com klcroxen@fas.harvard.edu (Kevin Croxen) said: >Did you try from a command prompt: attrib -r c:\desktop\makedsks.bat to >render the object non read-only, then deleting it? The object crept in from >the root directory of the Warp CD, I reset the attributes using File Freedom. It still wouldn't go into the shredder. Then... As many times as I have looked in the DESKTOP directory and found no files at all, I looked again. There was the file, big as you please. I deleted it - again using File Freedom - and voila, it was gone. Jim L Remove XX from address to Email Crooks and kooks will get guns regardless of laws. --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: bCandid - Powering the world's discussions - http (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: lifedata@xxvol.com 27-Oct-99 13:19:14 To: All 28-Oct-99 10:23:17 Subj: Help with helps From: lifedata@xxvol.com Where on my system can I find help for working with DSK files? I have tried at the command line "help dsk" and "help loaddskf" (among other things). If IBM is so determined to keep using floppy technology there must be info about it somewhere. Jim L Remove XX from address to Email Crooks and kooks will get guns regardless of laws. --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: bCandid - Powering the world's discussions - http (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: worlock@frontiernet.net 27-Oct-99 14:03:17 To: All 28-Oct-99 10:23:17 Subj: Unable to close certain programs...help... From: "RichS" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 I've recently run into a problem that hopefully someone can offer help with. Two programs I use; junkbuster 2.02 and JunkSpy (beta from Sundial Systems); can not be closed, terminated or otherwise gotten rid of once started. Junkbuster is an emx program, Junkspy is a PM app. Other emx programs work (and quit) just fine (I have 9d, fix2 installed). I haven't had this problem with any other software including the OS/2 Seti client that is also emx. Although my system has had some radical reconstruction done lately after a Scitech SDDb7 install fiasco. I'm running Warp 4 fixpack 12, DD001 right now and everything else seems to work just fine. Except EscapeGL 3.0, which is why I've been trying to shutdown now and then; having to close the above programs in the process... But that's (hopefully, or not?) a different problem and being worked on with the help of SnowStorm Software... I can get junkbuster to close by renaming the block.ijb file and then sending a call through it. But a legitimate close (control-c) stops the program but won't exit. Process Commander says "Processing exit list" and nothing will kill it... If I try to close JunkSpy, I just lock up and can't go any further.... This _may_ be a problem with these two programs... JunkSpy is a beta... But Junkbuster is run by a lot of people who have no problems with it.... So the big question is... Is there anything in the system that would prevent a program from closing? Any settings that might help? A lot of things have changed on this machine since the crash. But I've successfully reinstalled my S3 video drivers and run Unimaint and checkini until there is nothing left to report let alone fix... I'm at a loss and hope someone out there has a clue... Thanks in advance... Rich... ****************************************************************************** Practice Random Acts of Kindness and Senseless...Umm...Uhh.... Oh - Heck...I never could remember all that "nice" stuff. - -----------------------------{worlock@frontiernet/net}------------------------- ------- ****************************************************************************** -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGPfreeware 5.0 OS/2 for non-commercial use Comment: PGP 5.0 for OS/2 Charset: noconv wj8DBQE4FzCQJUo5KMjfuWMRAqB2AKDgC6paJJVoHYyCcbpBlC8A9LgcxACfYJiC IBS3UdbZ1NTC3wOC9zA6euQ= =2o/E -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Frontier GlobalCenter Inc. (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: lifedata@xxvol.com 27-Oct-99 15:20:06 To: All 28-Oct-99 10:23:18 Subj: Re: Bootos2 options From: lifedata@xxvol.com "RichS" said: >GUI's have not helped at all. Excellent point. And excellent reply. Thank you. Jim L Remove XX from address to Email Crooks and kooks will get guns regardless of laws. --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: bCandid - Powering the world's discussions - http (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: Valheru@guesswhere.com 27-Oct-99 15:26:24 To: All 28-Oct-99 10:23:18 Subj: sys02025!! & sys02027!! From: "Valheru" I downloaded a warp v3 GA boot disk image and tried to use loadsdkf to expand it to a 1.44 floppy but it stopped at 76% and said it couldn't read the source drive. I then used xdfcopy and it wrote to the disk but upon verify it stopped at 76% and said it couldn't the floppy or source file. After comparing the included bootwarp.dir file to the newly created floppy image it looked as though they were identical but when I try to boot up fromt the floppy I get the following error: sys02025!! sys02027!! It just sits there and doesn't go any further. Is the bootwarp.dsk bad? Let me know what you think. I have attached the file, in a seperate post due to post size resrtiction, that I was using to make the bootable floppy for inspection. Thanks --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Global Network Services - Remote Access Mail & Ne (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net 27-Oct-99 19:35:13 To: All 28-Oct-99 10:23:18 Subj: Re: Changing CDROM From: doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net (Doug Bissett) On Mon, 25 Oct 1999 23:18:36, patrick.palmer@dtn.ntl.com wrote: > Thanks. It was slave on IDE2 with no master (works with NT). As master > it was fine and as slave with a master it is fine. I guess OS2 is a > little picky compared to NT. > > Patrick > In fact, a slave, with no master should NOT work, at all, in any operating system. OS/2 is just enforcing the "rules" that should always be followed. I have no idea why, or how, these devices actually do work without a master to run them. ****************************** From the PC of Doug Bissett doug.bissett at attglobal.net The " at " must be changed to "@" ****************************** --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Global Network Services - Remote Access Mail & Ne (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net 27-Oct-99 19:35:14 To: All 28-Oct-99 10:23:18 Subj: Re: Modem Settings From: doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net (Doug Bissett) On Tue, 26 Oct 1999 17:04:43, "Paul M. Pilon" wrote: > I apologize in advance if what follows seems trivial, but here goes. > > I currently have my new modem jumpered for COM 3, and IRQ 3. These were > jumper settings on my old modem which was originally installed back in the > Dark Ages when I ran Win 3.11. When I installed the new modem, I made no > changes in the COM.SYS statement of my CONFIG.SYS which reads > DEVICE=C:\OS2\BOOT\COM.SYS. > > Having done an RMVIEW /IRQ, I get the following output for IRQ3: > IRQ Level = 3 PCI Pin = NONE Flg = MULTIPLEXED SERIAL_2 Serial > Controller > IRQ Level = 3 PCI Pin = NONE Flg = MULTIPLEXED SERIAL_3 Serial > Controller > > Is there a problem, or potential problem with this? My system is currently > operating just fine, and has been for some months. I am about to make some > changes which will necessitate reinstalling OS/2, and want to get things as > near to perfect for it as possible. What would be the "standard" or best > settings? > > Thanks in advance to all who apply > > > > ************************************************************** > "I have the male 'work avoidance chromosome'. > I can detect unnecessary work, thereby avoiding it." > -- Dilbert > > Paul M. Pilon > Halifax, NS Canada > redpilon@redfox.rednstn.ca > To reply, get rid of the 3 "red"s . > ************************************************************** > > You have two com ports (Com2, and Com3), set to use the SAME IRQ. Sometimes, this will work, but most of the time, it is definitely NOT a good idea (even if you don't use one of them, and even in systems like Win31, or plain DOS). I suspect that what you have, is a couple of onboard COM ports (could be on an I/O card), that would default to Com1, address 3F8, IRQ4, and Com2, address 2F8, IRQ3. You have added Com3, (probably) address 3E8, at IRQ3. This gives you two devices attached to IRQ3, which WILL, eventually, cause hangs (perhaps, not often enough to realize what is causing the hang). What you need to do, is either change the IRQ to something else, that is not being used, or, disable COM2, wherever it may be. You may need to add parameters to the COM.SYS line (do HELP COM.SYS from a command line), or change the modem to be COM2, address 2F8, IRQ3. Hope this helps... ****************************** From the PC of Doug Bissett doug.bissett at attglobal.net The " at " must be changed to "@" ****************************** --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Global Network Services - Remote Access Mail & Ne (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: lifedata@xxvol.com 27-Oct-99 13:58:04 To: All 28-Oct-99 10:23:18 Subj: Re: Pimple on my desktop's face From: lifedata@xxvol.com "Graham C. Norris" said: >Drag it to a floppy. Remove floppy. Gone! Hmmmmmmmmmmm............ Just to check this out, I drug a new instance of it to my desktop from the cd. Dragging it to floppy merely copied it, but using MOVE (to floppy) from the menu worked. I hope I can remember that. Jim L Remove XX from address to Email Crooks and kooks will get guns regardless of laws. --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: bCandid - Powering the world's discussions - http (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: rgibson@ix.netcom.com 27-Oct-99 17:49:28 To: All 28-Oct-99 10:23:18 Subj: Re: Instructions: How To Build An OS/2 Computer From: rgibson@ix.netcom.com (Ron Gibson) On Wed, 27 Oct 1999 14:20:52, =?iso-8859-1?Q?Bj=F8rn?= Vermo wrote: > No doubt there are some expensive dealers around, but if the $1200 you mention > are of the US kind, it seems very high for the kind of machine you describe. I > can buy a PII-400 HP Vectra or IBM PC from the nearest dealer for less than > that. We do have very fierce competition around here, but still... And that will be with on board video and sound no doubt. Now, what do you do when you need another MOBO and can't find one for less that $400 from HP. No thanks... You get what you pay for and every low cost system I saw was junk, whether it was Compaq or HP. And funny thing is I still did better than the closest prices I saw. email: rgibson@ix.netcom.com --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: MindSpring Enterprises (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: lifedata@xxvol.com 27-Oct-99 13:48:16 To: All 28-Oct-99 10:23:18 Subj: Re: Bootos2 options From: lifedata@xxvol.com raphaelt@netnews.worldnet.att.net (Raphael Tennenbaum) said: >as BOOTOS2 is made and documented is that if you DON'T >understand how it will work or can't be bothered to read the >documentation to figure how it will work then you SHOULDN'T >be using it. Ah yes. Elitism once again rears its ugly head. You're a genius and I'm not so I shouldn't have what is touted as the best utility disks available for OS/2. I could write all day on the subject of this despicable attitude. Jim L Remove XX from address to Email Crooks and kooks will get guns regardless of laws. --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: bCandid - Powering the world's discussions - http (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: lifedata@xxvol.com 27-Oct-99 13:51:16 To: All 28-Oct-99 10:23:18 Subj: Re: Is my blood boiling... From: lifedata@xxvol.com esther@bitranch.com (Esther Schindler) said: >Well, either that says something about the quality and responsiveness >of your ISP, or I think it simply says they are sheep in the M$ fold. Jim L Remove XX from address to Email Crooks and kooks will get guns regardless of laws. --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: bCandid - Powering the world's discussions - http (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: nospam@savebandwidth.invalid 27-Oct-99 15:16:21 To: All 28-Oct-99 10:23:18 Subj: Re: Is my blood boiling... From: nospam@savebandwidth.invalid (John Thompson) In , "OS/2 Fan" writes: > Yes, I tried SO5.1 under Warp 4 FP 9, with no luck, I'm >afraid. I would have been OK with HTML format also, but the contents >of the .doc files they sent in the CD shall remain a mystery to me... Have you tried Microsoft's "Word Viewer" program? It's a free download from Microsoft and the 16-bit version runs fine in Win-OS/2. You can only view or print the document from the viewer but it seems to work pretty well for that. You can also copy text into the clipboard and paste it into an OS/2 application if you need to edit it at all. -John (John.Thompson@attglobal.net) --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: The Crimson Permanent Assurance (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: worlock@frontiernet.net 27-Oct-99 14:34:01 To: All 28-Oct-99 10:23:18 Subj: Re: Bootos2 options From: "RichS" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, 27 Oct 1999 13:48:33 -0400, lifedata@xxvol.com wrote: >raphaelt@netnews.worldnet.att.net (Raphael Tennenbaum) said: > >>as BOOTOS2 is made and documented is that if you DON'T >>understand how it will work or can't be bothered to read the >>documentation to figure how it will work then you SHOULDN'T >>be using it. > >Ah yes. Elitism once again rears its ugly head. You're a genius and I'm not so >I shouldn't have what is touted as the best utility disks available for OS/2. > >I could write all day on the subject of this despicable attitude. > >Jim L >Remove XX from address to Email >Crooks and kooks will get guns regardless of laws. > > And you'd be 100% right, although no everyone has that 'attitude' malicously. It comes naturally over the years ;-) The docs to bootos2 have always been bad and I hate using the program for that reason. Seems everytime I try it (a new version), I read the docs, get frustrated and wind up going back to "Create Utility Disks"... I do come across it everyday from the opposite end though as tech support. I constantly hear "What do you mean 'right click'", or "How do I get a directory", etc.... It is very easy for us to forget that not eveyone knows everything about computers and it's very easy to get a bit flip or even intolerant with people who seem 'stupid' (which is a rather nasty way to express it). It's even worse when the people 'who know' have to ask a 'stupid question', which I do all the time ;-) GUI's have not helped at all. It's just what people are used to using, or not in this case... On another note, your other post above about loaddskf... Getting used to command lines does have benefits. I usually try the program name followed by "/?" (no quotes) first off to see what commands it accepts. The basics of 'anything in braces is optional' should be understood such as " [c] " (again no quotes). The arguement of 'c' would be optional and/or cause something else done by the program. But a fulle discusion of command line programs would be something else. I might recommend a quick read of an old DOS book since everything there would be command line oriented and offer the basic explanations. But to loaddskf... I have the old IBM release of both the loaddskf and savedskf (which creates the files from floppies). It comes with documentations that may help. It's pretty small zipped and I'll send it to you. I would tell you where to download it here, but who rmembers? ;-) Good luck, and if you have any command line questions, you could always ask me though email. I don't know everything (as my questions for help show other places), but I'm always willing to share... Rich... ****************************************************************************** Practice Random Acts of Kindness and Senseless...Umm...Uhh.... Oh - Heck...I never could remember all that "nice" stuff. - -----------------------------{worlock@frontiernet/net}------------------------- ------- ****************************************************************************** -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGPfreeware 5.0 OS/2 for non-commercial use Comment: PGP 5.0 for OS/2 Charset: noconv wj8DBQE4FzejJUo5KMjfuWMRAuymAKCOOj9UtnKsPlt0+OawrNvbJWuiGgCgw2TZ OMZpbV6OCJJIQ5MDphDa0Bk= =WO4p -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Frontier GlobalCenter Inc. (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: nospam@null 27-Oct-99 23:38:03 To: All 28-Oct-99 10:23:18 Subj: Re: what brand and model PC today to buy for OS/2 ? From: nospam@null (Richard A Crane) On Thu, 21 Oct 1999 20:24:41, Zeus Paleologos wrote: [snip] > I have a few questions: > > 1 - Regarding OS/2, does it matter whether I choose a PC model with > a Celeron, Pentium II or Pentium III processor ? NO > 2 - Does OS/2 handle large ( > 2GBytes) HDD's ? I understand it is a > major headache to configure a PC and partition a large HDD today > to allow the booting and running of either Win98, Linux, or OS/2 > on the same unit. Yes > 3 - Do Hewlett-Packard (Pavillon) model PCs run OS/2 acceptably ? I > notice that no OS/2 drivers are available for the R series HP > printer/scanner/copiers. Should I forget these kind of all-in-one > units if I plan to run OS/2? Probably - but I'm not sure. > 4 - Should I plan on installing Warp 4 on whatever I get or will > Warp 3 still be a possibility ? Go for Warp 4 - 3 has so many different "flavours" and some of them are now not going to have any more IBM "fix" packs. Just my opinion others may vary Richard A Crane Check Copyright of this with the author or you may suffer litigation or embarrassment. ps General Protection Fault ... Retry or Replace General and continue? --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Global Network Services - Remote Access Mail & Ne (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: nospam@null 27-Oct-99 23:37:24 To: All 28-Oct-99 10:23:18 Subj: Re: GAH! Got a Trap error on our print server! Help! From: nospam@null (Richard A Crane) On Tue, 26 Oct 1999 15:56:56, Siobhan Perricone wrote: [snip] > > He won't know what to do with it, I would think. First thing you > should do is > > get the latest version of the driver from the online ddpak. It's dtd > 4/99. > > Second thing to do is to see whether your LAN card is sharing an IRQ > with the > > AIC7870. Perhaps one of the drivers is defective in its interrupt > sharing. > > IF what you're saying is going to mean anything to me, you have *got* > to take time to be detailed in your responses to me. I grok that I > need an updated driver, but I don't know where it is. > -- 1. The "online ddpak" is a reference to the online site for device drivers run by IBM - the easiest way to locate it and access it is through installing the OS/2 Device Driver CD which comes with WARP 4 or the URl which may wrap is http://ps.software.ibm.com/pbin-usa-ps/getobj.pl?/pdocs-usa/otherservices.html. 2. "rmview" from a command line in OS/2 gives all sots of info about most bits of the system and I suggest it as a start for IRQ checking. 3. You mentioned in another post wanting info on CHKDSK's results and where its logged as far as I know its in the root directory of each disc and called chkdsk.log and chkdsk.old but you need something (sorry I can't remember what its called but I think its found from the URl I gave above) from IBM to "format" the results into something intelligible. 4. And noting some of your comments I also add that looking with "e.exe" or "tedit.exe" at the file "POPUP.LOG" can often help with problems - you may know this already so I'm sorry if I'm teaching granny to suck eggs. 5. Lucidity of expression is a big factor in these newsgroups - I find that I sometimes have to (re) state (and I thought I was just repeating myself) the problem twice or more to get responses addressing the problem- so I recommend a large dose of patience in them. :) Richard A Crane Check Copyright of this with the author or you may suffer litigation or embarrassment. ps General Protection Fault ... Retry or Replace General and continue? This reply also emailed to morgannalefey@my-deja.com --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Global Network Services - Remote Access Mail & Ne (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: nospam@null 27-Oct-99 23:39:08 To: All 28-Oct-99 10:23:18 Subj: (1/2) Warp 4, Fixpak 12 From: nospam@null (Richard A Crane) I have had trouble with Warp 4 fix Pak 12 via RSU - it wont boot my fp9 drive which has the following (syslevel and config.sys attached) but will boot my C drive un "fix pak"ed config.sys attched. C:\IBMINST\SYSLEVEL.WCB OS/2 Warp Networking Services Installation Version 4.00 Component ID 5939a9200 Current CSD level: IP08400 Prior CSD level: IP08400 C:\OS2\INSTALL\SYSLEVEL.OS2 IBM OS/2 Base Operating System Version 4.00 Component ID 5639A6100 Type 0C Current CSD level: XR0M012 Prior CSD level: XR04000 C:\OS2\INSTALL\SYSLEVEL.SDS Distributed SOM Framework Version 2.01.5 Component ID 562222700 Current CSD level: SM20012 Prior CSD level: NONE C:\OS2\INSTALL\SYSLEVEL.SEM SOM Event Management Framework Version 2.01.5 Component ID 562222700 Current CSD level: SM20012 Prior CSD level: NONE C:\OS2\INSTALL\SYSLEVEL.SUT SOMobjects Utility Classes Version 2.01.5 Component ID 562222700 Current CSD level: SM20012 Prior CSD level: NONE C:\OS2\INSTALL\SYSLEVEL.SIR SOMobjects Interface Repository Framework Version 2.01.5 Component ID 562222700 Current CSD level: SM20012 Prior CSD level: NONE C:\OS2\INSTALL\SYSLEVEL.SRK SOM Run-time Kernel Version 2.01.5 Component ID 562222700 Current CSD level: SM20012 Prior CSD level: NONE C:\OS2\INSTALL\SYSLEVEL.GRE IBM OS/2 32-bit Graphics Engine Version 4.00 Component ID 5639A6100 Type 0C Current CSD level: XR04000 Prior CSD level: XR04000 C:\OS2\INSTALL\SYSLEVEL.FPK OS/2 Warp 4 Service Level Version 1.00 Component ID 566933010 Type Fixpak Current CSD level: XR0M012 Prior CSD level: XR0M012 C:\OS2\INSTALL\SYSLEVEL.BDD IBM OS/2 Base Device Drivers Version 4.00 Component ID 5639A6100 Type 0C Current CSD level: XR04000 Prior CSD level: XR04000 C:\TCPIP\BIN\SYSLEVEL.TCP IBM TCP/IP for Warp Version 4.00 Component ID 5639A6600 Current CSD level: UN00000 Prior CSD level: UN00000 C:\TCPIP\BIN\SYSLEVEL.IAK IBM Internet Connection for Warp Version 4.00 Component ID 5639A6400 Current CSD level: UN00000 Prior CSD level: UN00000 C:\TCPIP\BIN\SYSLEVEL.DBX IBM OS/2 TCPIP DOS Windows Version 4.00 Component ID 5639A6500 Current CSD level: UN00000 Prior CSD level: UN00000 C:\TCPIP\UMAIL\SYSLEVEL.UML IBM Ultimedia Mail Lite Client for OS/2 Version 2.10.4 Component ID 562260112 Type 0613A Current CSD level: XR21588 Prior CSD level: XR21588 C:\TCPIP\PCOMOS2\SYSLEVEL.PCS IBM Personal Communications AS/400 and 3270 for OS/2 - TCP/IP Entry Level Version 4.10.1 Component ID 5639A3300 Current CSD level: WR00000 Prior CSD level: WR00000 C:\CID\LOCINSTU\SYSLEVEL.LCU IBM LAN CID Utility Version 5.10 Component ID 5639A5700 Current CSD level: WR08400 Prior CSD level: WR08210 C:\DMISL\SYSLEVEL.DMI IBM OS/2 DMTF Service Layer Version 1.10 Component ID 576562200 Current CSD level: CA00000 Prior CSD level: CA00000 C:\IBMCOM\SYSLEVEL.TRP IBM OS/2 LAN Adapter and Protocol Support Version 5.10 Component ID 5639A5700 Current CSD level: WR08400 Prior CSD level: WR08210 C:\MPTN\SYSLEVEL.DHC IBM OS/2 Dynamic Host Configuration Protocol Services Version 4.00 Component ID 562290901 Current CSD level: WR08400 Prior CSD level: WR08210 C:\MPTN\SYSLEVEL.MPT IBM OS/2 TCP/IP Stack Version 5.10 Component ID 5639B1700 Current CSD level: WR08400 Prior CSD level: WR08210 C:\IBMI18N\SYSLEVEL.I18 IBM I18N Toolkit Version 1.05 Component ID 5639A5700 Current CSD level: WR08400 Prior CSD level: WR08210 F:\CID\LOCINSTU\SYSLEVEL.LCU IBM LAN CID Utility Version 5.10 Component ID 5639A5700 Current CSD level: WR08400 Prior CSD level: WR08210 F:\DMISL\SYSLEVEL.DMI IBM OS/2 DMTF Service Layer Version 1.10 Component ID 576562200 Current CSD level: CA00000 Prior CSD level: CA00000 F:\features\fisetup\SYSLEVEL.FIA IBM OS/2 Feature Install Version 1.23 Component ID 5639C7300 Type ASD Current CSD level: XR03100 Prior CSD level: XR03100 F:\IBMCOM\SYSLEVEL.TRP IBM OS/2 LAN Adapter and Protocol Support Version 5.10 Component ID 5639A5700 Current CSD level: WR08400 Prior CSD level: WR08210 F:\IBMI18N\SYSLEVEL.I18 IBM I18N Toolkit Version 1.09 Component ID 5639A5700 Current CSD level: WR08620 Prior CSD level: WR08610 F:\IBMINST\SYSLEVEL.WCB OS/2 Warp Networking Services Installation Version 4.00 Component ID 5939a9200 Current CSD level: IP08400 Prior CSD level: IP08400 F:\javaos2\bin\SYSLEVEL.JAV Java Runtime Version 4.00 Component ID 5639B3300 Current CSD level: XR04000 Prior CSD level: XR04000 F:\javaos2\dll\SYSLEVEL.JEP JEmpower Version 4.00 Component ID 5639B3300 Current CSD level: XR04000 Prior CSD level: XR04000 F:\MPTN\SYSLEVEL.DHC IBM OS/2 Dynamic Host Configuration Protocol Services Version 4.00 Component ID 562290901 Current CSD level: WR08400 Prior CSD level: WR08210 F:\MPTN\SYSLEVEL.MPT IBM OS/2 TCP/IP Stack Version 5.10 Component ID 5639B1700 Current CSD level: WR08400 Prior CSD level: WR08210 F:\opendoc\bin\SYSLEVEL.ODC OpenDoc Version 1.00 Component ID 5639B3100 Current CSD level: XR01000 Prior CSD level: XR01000 F:\OS2\DLL\SYSLEVEL.FIA IBM OS/2 Feature Install Version 1.23 Component ID 5639C7300 Type ASD Current CSD level: XR03100 Prior CSD level: XR03100 F:\OS2\INSTALL\SYSLEVEL.BDD IBM OS/2 Base Device Drivers Version 4.00 Component ID 5639A6100 Type 0C Current CSD level: XR04000 Prior CSD level: XR04000 F:\OS2\INSTALL\SYSLEVEL.FPK OS/2 Warp 4 Service Level Version 1.00 Component ID 566933010 Type Fixpak Current CSD level: XR0M009 Prior CSD level: XR0M009 F:\OS2\INSTALL\SYSLEVEL.GEG IBM OS/2 Generic SVGA (GENGRADD) Driver Version 1.00 Component ID 562107701 Type GRADD Current CSD level: XR03010 Prior CSD level: XR02100 F:\OS2\INSTALL\SYSLEVEL.GRE IBM OS/2 32-bit Graphics Engine Version 4.00 Component ID 5639A6100 Type 0C Current CSD level: XR04000 Prior CSD level: XR04000 F:\OS2\INSTALL\SYSLEVEL.OS2 IBM OS/2 Base Operating System Version 4.00 Component ID 5639A6100 Type 0C Current CSD level: XR04000 Prior CSD level: XR04000 F:\OS2\INSTALL\SYSLEVEL.S3G IBM OS/2 S3 864/Trio (S3GRADD) Driver Version 1.00 Component ID 562107701 Type GRADD Current CSD level: XR03010 Prior CSD level: XR02100 F:\OS2\INSTALL\SYSLEVEL.SDS Distributed SOM Framework Version 2.01.5 Component ID 562222700 Current CSD level: SM20012 Prior CSD level: NONE F:\OS2\INSTALL\SYSLEVEL.SEM SOM Event Management Framework Version 2.01.5 Component ID 562222700 Current CSD level: SM20012 Prior CSD level: NONE F:\OS2\INSTALL\SYSLEVEL.SIR SOMobjects Interface Repository Framework Version 2.01.5 Component ID 562222700 Current CSD level: SM20012 Prior CSD level: NONE F:\OS2\INSTALL\SYSLEVEL.SRK SOM Run-time Kernel Version 2.01.5 Component ID 562222700 Current CSD level: SM20012 Prior CSD level: NONE F:\OS2\INSTALL\SYSLEVEL.SUT SOMobjects Utility Classes Version 2.01.5 Component ID 562222700 Current CSD level: SM20012 Prior CSD level: NONE F:\tcpip\bin\SYSLEVEL.DBX IBM OS/2 TCPIP DOS Windows Version 4.10 Component ID 5639A6500 Current CSD level: UN01000 Prior CSD level: UN00000 F:\tcpip\bin\SYSLEVEL.IAK IBM Internet Connection for Warp Version 4.10 Component ID 5639A6400 Current CSD level: UN01000 Prior CSD level: UN00000 F:\tcpip\bin\SYSLEVEL.TCP IBM TCP/IP for Warp - BETA Version 4.20.9 Component ID 5639A6600 Current CSD level: UN09999 Prior CSD level: UN00000 F:\tcpip\pcomos2\SYSLEVEL.PCS IBM Personal Communications AS/400 and 3270 for OS/2 - TCP/IP Entry Level Version 4.10.1 Component ID 5639A3300 Current CSD level: WR00000 Prior CSD level: WR00000 F:\tcpip\umail\SYSLEVEL.UML IBM Ultimedia Mail Lite Client for OS/2 Version 2.10.4 Component ID 562260112 Type 0613A Current CSD level: XR21588 Prior CSD level: XR21588 G:\Com4\SYSLEVEL.NN2 Netscape Communicator for OS/2 4.04 Version 4.04 Component ID 5697B8600 Type ASD Current CSD level: XR00404 Prior CSD level: XR00404 G:\Com4\SYSLEVEL.PP2 Netscape Communicator for OS/2 4.04-IBM PlugPak Version 2.10 Component ID 5639D4100 Type ASD Current CSD level: XR00403 Prior CSD level: XR00403 G:\Com4\PROGRAM\SYSLEVEL.NN2 Netscape Communicator 4.61 for OS/2 Warp Version 4.61 Component ID 5697B8600 Type ASD Current CSD level: XR00461 Prior CSD level: XR00461 G:\Com4\PROGRAM\SYSLEVEL.PP2 Netscape Communicator 4.61 for OS/2 Warp -IBM PlugPak Version 3.00 Component ID 5639D4100 Type ASD Current CSD level: XR00403 Prior CSD level: XR00403 G:\GU20LITE\SYSLEVEL.GRA The Graham Utilities LIGHT for OS/2 Version 2.00 Component ID 123456789 Type GRAHAM Current CSD level: GR02000 Prior CSD level: GR02000 G:\IBMCOM\SYSLEVEL.TRP IBM OS/2 LAN Adapter and Protocol Support Version 5.45 Component ID 5639A5700 Current CSD level: WR08620 Prior CSD level: WR08610 G:\Java11\bin\SYSLEVEL.JAV Java Runtime Version 1.17 Component ID 5639B3300 Current CSD level: XR04007 Prior CSD level: XR04006 G:\Java11\bin\SYSLEVEL.JTK Java Toolkit Version 1.16 Component ID 5639B9600 Current CSD level: XR04006 Prior CSD level: XR04005 G:\Java11\bin\SYSLEVEL.JUF Java Unicode Font Version 1.00 Component ID 5639D7200 Current CSD level: XR04005 Prior CSD level: XR04005 G:\Java11\demo\SYSLEVEL.JSP Java Samples Version 1.16 Component ID 5639B3300 Current CSD level: XR04006 Prior CSD level: XR04005 G:\Java11\ICATJAVA\bin\SYSLEVEL.ICA ICAT Debugger Version 1.02 Component ID 5639C8300 Current CSD level: XR04006 Prior CSD level: XR04005 G:\Java117\SYSLEVEL.JAV Java Runtime Version 1.17 Component ID 5639B3300 Current CSD level: XR04007 Prior CSD level: XR04006 G:\Java117\SYSLEVEL.JUF Java Unicode Font Version 1.00 Component ID 5639D7200 Current CSD level: XR04005 Prior CSD level: XR04005 G:\Java117\package\SYSLEVEL.JEP JEmpower J11 JNI Version 1.10 Component ID 5639C2500 Current CSD level: XR04002 Prior CSD level: XR04001 G:\mptn\SYSLEVEL.DHC IBM OS/2 Dynamic Host Configuration Protocol Services Version 4.30 Component ID 562290901 Current CSD level: WR08620 Prior CSD level: WR08610 G:\mptn\SYSLEVEL.MPT IBM OS/2 TCP/IP Stack Version 5.45 Component ID 5639B1700 Current CSD level: WR08620 Prior CSD level: WR08610 G:\netscape\SYSLEVEL.NN2 Netscape Navigator for OS/2 2.02-J11:NJ Version 2.02 Component ID 5697B8600 Type ASD Current CSD level: XR00204 Prior CSD level: XR00202 G:\netscape\SYSLEVEL.PP2 Netscape Navigator for OS/2 2.02-IBM PlugPak Version 1.10 Component ID 5639D4100 Type ASD Current CSD level: XR00203 Prior CSD level: XR00203 G:\netscape\JAVA11\SYSLEVEL.JEP JEmpower J11 Version 1.10 Component ID 5639C2500 Type ASD Current CSD level: XR04001 Prior CSD level: XR04000 H:\Com4ver1\PROGRAM\SYSLEVEL.NN2 Netscape Communicator for OS/2 4.04 Version 4.04 Component ID 5697B8600 Type ASD Current CSD level: XR00404 Prior CSD level: XR00404 H:\Com4ver1\PROGRAM\SYSLEVEL.PP2 Netscape Communicator for OS/2 4.04-IBM PlugPak Version 2.10 Component ID 5639D4100 Type ASD Current CSD level: XR00403 Prior CSD level: XR00403 H:\mpts\mptn\SYSLEVEL.DHC IBM OS/2 Dynamic Host Configuration Protocol Services Version 4.30 Component ID 562290901 Current CSD level: WR08620 Prior CSD level: WR08610 H:\mpts\mptn\SYSLEVEL.MPT IBM OS/2 TCP/IP Stack Version 5.45 Component ID 5639B1700 Current CSD level: WR08620 Prior CSD level: WR08610 H:\mpts\mptn\i18n\SYSLEVEL.I18 IBM I18N Toolkit Version 1.09 Component ID 5639A5700 Current CSD level: WR08620 Prior CSD level: WR08610 H:\tcpip\install\base\SYSLEVEL.DBX IBM OS/2 TCPIP DOS Windows Version 4.10 Component ID 5639A6500 Current CSD level: UN01000 Prior CSD level: UN00000 H:\tcpip\install\base\SYSLEVEL.IAK IBM Internet Connection for Warp Version 4.10 Component ID 5639A6400 Current CSD level: UN01000 Prior CSD level: UN00000 H:\tcpip\install\base\SYSLEVEL.TCP IBM TCP/IP for Warp - BETA Version 4.20.9 Component ID 5639A6600 Current CSD level: UN09999 Prior CSD level: UN00000 H:\tcpip\install\DHCPSERV\SYSLEVEL.DDN IBM OS/2 Dynamic Domain Name Server Version 4.10 Component ID 562293600 Current CSD level: UN01000 Prior CSD level: UN00959 H:\tcpip\install\DHCPSERV\SYSLEVEL.DHS IBM OS/2 Dynamic Host Configuration Protocol Server Version 4.10 Component ID 562293700 Current CSD level: UN01000 Prior CSD level: UN00959 H:\tcpip\install\nfsos2\SYSLEVEL.NFS NFS for TCP/IP on OS/2 2.0 and 2.1 Version 2.00 Component ID 562208600 Current CSD level: UN57064 Prior CSD level: UN52836 H:\tcpip\install\VPN\SYSLEVEL.VPN IBM TCP/IP VPN for Warp Version 4.10 Component ID 5639A6600 Current CSD level: UN01000 Prior CSD level: UN00000 IFS=F:\OS2\HPFS.IFS /CACHE:2048 /CRECL:64 /AUTOCHECK:FGHC PROTSHELL=F:\OS2\PMSHELL.EXE SET USER_INI=F:\OS2\OS2.INI SET SYSTEM_INI=F:\OS2\OS2SYS.INI SET OS2_SHELL=F:\OS2\CMD.EXE SET AUTOSTART=PROGRAMS,TASKLIST,FOLDERS,CONNECTIONS,WARPCENTER SET RUNWORKPLACE=F:\OS2\PMSHELL.EXE SET COMSPEC=F:\OS2\CMD.EXE LIBPATH=G:\Com4\PROGRAM;g:\NETSCAPE;.;H:\LOTUSW4\COMPNENT;H:\LOTUSW4\ORGANIZE;H : \LOTUSW4\APPROACH;H:\LOTUSW4\123;F:\opendoc\BIN;F:\OS2\DLL;F:\IBMI18N\DLL;G:\MP T N\DLL;G:\IBMCOM\DLL;F:\OS2\MDOS;F:\;F:\OS2\APPS\DLL;F:\BonusPak\ibmworks;F:\Bon u sPak\rs231b;G:\JAVA11\DLL;F:\MMOS2\DLL;F:\IBMINST;F:\TCPIP\dll;F:\TCPIP\pcomos2 ; F:\TCPIP\UMAIL;G:\cat;G:\BA2PRO;G:\UNIMAINT;G:\FILESTAR;H:\LOTUSW4\FLG;G:\JAVA1 1 \ICATJAVA\DLL;g:\GU20LITE;H:\fastback\Dll; SET PATH=G:\MPTN\BIN;G:\IBMCOM;G:\Com4\PROGRAM;g:\NETSCAPE;F:\OS2;F:\opendoc\BIN;F: \ OS2\SYSTEM;F:\OS2\MDOS\WINOS2;F:\OS2\INSTALL;F:\;F:\OS2\MDOS;F:\OS2\APPS;F:\Bon u sPak\ibmworks;F:\MMOS2;F:\TCPIP\bin;F:\TCPIP\pcomos2;F:\TCPIP\UMAIL;G:\cat;G:\B A 2PRO;G:\GTU30;G:\FILESTAR;H:\LOTUSW4\COMPNENT;H:\LOTUSW4\ORGANIZE;H:\LOTUSW4\AP P ROACH;H:\LOTUSW4\FLG;G:\JAVA11\ICATJAVA\BIN;g:\GU20LITE;G:\JAVA11\BIN; SET DPATH=G:\MPTN;G:\IBMCOM;F:\OS2;F:\OS2\SYSTEM;F:\OS2\MDOS\WINOS2;F:\OS2\INSTALL; F :\;F:\OS2\BITMAP;F:\OS2\MDOS;F:\OS2\APPS;F:\MMOS2;F:\MMOS2\INSTALL;F:\IBMINST;F : \TCPIP\PCOMOS2;G:\JAVA11\ICATJAVA\HELP;g:\GU20LITE; SET PROMPT=$i[$p] SET HELP=G:\MPTN;g:\NETSCAPE;F:\OS2\HELP;F:\opendoc\BIN;F:\BonusPak\askpsp\books;F: \ --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Global Network Services - Remote Access Mail & Ne (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: nospam@null 27-Oct-99 23:39:08 To: All 28-Oct-99 10:23:18 Subj: (2/2) Warp 4, Fixpak 12 BonusPak\ibmworks;F:\MMOS2\HELP;F:\TCPIP\help;F:\TCPIP\UMAIL;G:\BA2PRO;H:\LOTUS W 4\COMPNENT;H:\LOTUSW4\ORGANIZE;H:\LOTUSW4\APPROACH;H:\LOTUSW4\FLG;H:\LOTUSW4\WO R DPRO;H:\LOTUSW4\123;G:\JAVA11\ICATJAVA\HELP;H:\fastback\Help; SET GLOSSARY=F:\OS2\HELP\GLOSS; SET IPF_KEYS=SBCS PRIORITY_DISK_IO=YES FILES=60 BASEDEV=IBMKBD.SYS DEVICE=G:\IBMCOM\LANMSGDD.OS2 /I:G:\IBMCOM /S DEVICE=G:\IBMCOM\PROTMAN.OS2 /I:G:\IBMCOM DEVICE=F:\OS2\BOOT\TESTCFG.SYS DEVICE=F:\OS2\BOOT\DOS.SYS DEVICE=F:\OS2\BOOT\PMDD.SYS BUFFERS=90 IOPL=YES DISKCACHE=1024,LW,AC:cde MAXWAIT=1 MEMMAN=SWAP,PROTECT SWAPPATH=G:\ 20480 20480 BREAK=OFF THREADS=1148 PRINTMONBUFSIZE=140,134,134 COUNTRY=001,F:\OS2\SYSTEM\COUNTRY.SYS SET KEYS=ON SET BOOKSHELF=F:\OS2\BOOK;F:\BonusPak\askpsp\books;F:\MMOS2;F:\TCPIP\help;G:\cat;g: \ GU20LITE; SET SOMIR=F:\OS2\ETC\SOM.IR;F:\opendoc\BIN\OPENDOC.IR;F:\OS2\ETC\WPSH.IR;F:\OS2\ETC \ WPDSERV.IR;F:\OS2\ETC\REXX.IR;H:\LOTUSW4\ETC\WPSC2.IR;H:\LOTUSW4\ETC\ORGANIZE.I R ;H:\LOTUSW4\ETC\APPROACH.IR;H:\LOTUSW4\ETC\L14SOM.IR;H:\LOTUSW4\ETC\LTSCTO31.IR ; H:\LOTUSW4\ETC\LTSOMO10.IR;H:\LOTUSW4\ETC\LTSRXO20.IR;H:\LOTUSW4\ETC\LTOLSO20.I R ;H:\LOTUSW4\ETC\FLG.IR; SET SOMDDIR=F:\OS2\ETC\DSOM SET SOMDDEBUG=10 SET SOMDMESSAGELOG=SOMD.LOG SET ULSPATH=F:\LANGUAGE; SET LOCPATH=F:\IBMI18N\LOCALE;F:\LANGUAGE\LOCALE;F:\TCPIP\locale; BASEDEV=TIMER0.SYS BASEDEV=PRINT01.SYS BASEDEV=IBM1FLPY.ADD BASEDEV=IBM2FLPY.ADD BASEDEV=IBM1S506.ADD /V BASEDEV=XDFLOPPY.FLT BASEDEV=OS2DASD.DMD SET EPMPATH=F:\OS2\APPS;F:\opendoc\BIN; PROTECTONLY=NO SHELL=F:\OS2\MDOS\COMMAND.COM F:\OS2\MDOS FCBS=16,8 RMSIZE=640 DEVICE=F:\OS2\MDOS\VEMM.SYS DOS=High,UMB DEVICE=F:\OS2\MDOS\VXMS.SYS /UMB DEVICE=F:\OS2\MDOS\VDPMI.SYS DEVICE=F:\OS2\MDOS\VDPX.SYS DEVICE=F:\OS2\MDOS\VWIN.SYS DEVICE=F:\OS2\MDOS\VW32S.SYS BASEDEV=OS2SCSI.DMD BASEDEV=FLASHPT.ADD DEVICE=F:\OS2\BOOT\OS2CDROM.DMD /V IFS=F:\OS2\BOOT\CDFS.IFS /V DEVICE=F:\OS2\MDOS\VCDROM.SYS REM *** rem out next line when panasonic driver installed *** BASEDEV=IBMIDECD.FLT DEVICE=F:\OS2\MDOS\VMOUSE.SYS DEVICE=F:\OS2\BOOT\POINTDD.SYS DEVICE=F:\OS2\BOOT\MOUSE.SYS SERIAL=COM1 DEVICE=F:\OS2\BOOT\COM.SYS(4,2e8,5) DEVICE=F:\OS2\MDOS\VCOM.SYS SET LANG=en_US SET TZ=est5edt CODEPAGE=437,850 DEVINFO=KBD,US,F:\OS2\KEYBOARD.DCP SET SOMDPORT=4096 SET SOMSOCKETS=TCPIPSockets SET AVLSVRNAME=AS SET SOMDTIMEOUT=300 SET HOSTNAME=MYHOSTNAME SET DMIPATH=F:\DMISL\BIN rem not needed for nonetwork RUN=F:\OS2\SMSTART.EXE SET IBMWORKS_INI=F:\BonusPak\ibmworks DEVICE=F:\BonusPak\rs231b\ecrdrv.sys DEVICE=F:\BonusPak\rs231b\rsmvdwo.sys CALL=F:\BonusPak\rs231b\pps731b.exe DEVICE=G:\SBOS2\SB16D2.SYS /C:1 /D:1 /H:5 /I:7 /A:220 /B:8 /M:330 /N:SBAUD1$ /P /V REM Changed for EYE OF BEHOLDER from rem DEVICE=G:\SBOS2\SB16D2.SYS /C:1 /D:1 /H:5 /I:10 /A:220 /B:8 /M:330 /N:SBAUD1$ /P /V REM DEVICE=F:\MMOS2\AUDIOVDD.SYS SBAUD1$ SET MMBASE=F:\MMOS2; SET DSPPATH=F:\MMOS2\DSP; SET NCDEBUG=4000 RUN=F:\MMOS2\MIDIDMON.EXE DEVICE=F:\MMOS2\SSMDD.SYS DEVICE=F:\MMOS2\R0STUB.SYS DEVICE=F:\MMOS2\MIDI.SYS DEVICE=F:\MMOS2\VCSHDD.SYS RUN=F:\MMOS2\QRYMMCD.EXE CALL=G:\IBMCOM\PROTOCOL\NETBIND.EXE RUN=G:\IBMCOM\LANMSGEX.EXE SET NLSPATH=G:\MPTN\MSG\NLS\%N;F:\TCPIP\msg\enus850\%N; SET ETC=G:\MPTN\ETC DEVICE=G:\IBMCOM\MACS\NULLNDIS.OS2 SET I18NDIR=F:\IBMI18N SET TMP=F:\TCPIP\TMP rem the next line is experimental Set TEMP=F:\TCPIP\tmp REM set TEMP=G:\tmp REM *** WatchCat 2.1 device driver - REQUIRED DEVICE=G:\cat\WATCHCAT.SYS KEYB:CA-W REM *** WatchCat 2.1 main program - REQUIRED RUN=G:\cat\WATCHCAT.EXE REM *** WatchCat 2.1 Process Manipluation Center Driver REM DEVICE=G:\cat\KILLER.SYS REM *** WatchCat 2.1 CAD Package Virtual Device Driver REM DEVICE=G:\cat\VWCAT.SYS REM *** WatchCat 2.1 CAD Package Control Program REM *** Back Again/2 SCSI tape device driver DEVICE=G:\BA2PRO\BTSSCSI.SYS REM *** Java OS2 Additions *** SET CLASSPATH=g:\NETSCAPE\njclass.zip;.\.;G:\JAVA11\ICATJAVA\DAEMON\JAVAPROB.ZIP;F: \ TCPIP\java; SET INCLUDE=G:\JAVA11\INCLUDE;G:\JAVA11\INCLUDE\OS2; SET LIB=G:\JAVA11\LIB; REM *** "Native driver for Panasonic CR-585-B" *** REM remmed for DDFP1 BASEDEV=MKEATAPI.ADD SET IBMAV=G:\IBMAV REM *** End of my config.sys *** SET SOMDTHREADPEER=1 rem to see if still works with previous setting SET TEMP=H:\LOTUSW4\TEMP rem to see if still works with previous setting SET TMP=H:\LOTUSW4\TEMP SET APOLLO_ENABLE_DLGED=y SET APOLLO_ENABLE_WPS=y SET LOTUS_CLS=H:\LOTUSW4\compnent SET SOMBASE=F:\OS2 SET SOMRUNTIME=F:\OS2\DLL SET DSQCOMMTRACE=OFF SET DSSDIR=H:\LOTUSW4\WORK\APPROACH SET DSSPATH=H:\LOTUSW4\APPROACH\ SET GRADD_CHAINS=C1 DEVICE=F:\OS2\GRADD.SYS DEVICE=F:\OS2\MDOS\VMANWIN.SYS SET C1=S3GRADD DEVINFO=SCR,VGA,F:\OS2\BOOT\VIOTBL.DCP SET VIDEO_DEVICES=VIO_SVGA SET VIO_SVGA=DEVICE(BVHVGA,BVHSVGA) DEVICE=F:\OS2\MDOS\VSVGA.SYS REM --- Added by The Graham Utilities for OS/2 Install program SET GU=g:\GU20LITE REM --- End GU additions REM -- PRESS CONTROL AND CLICK ON WINDOW LIST IN WARPCENTRE TO USE SET KILLFEATUREENABLED=ON DEVICE=G:\MPTN\PROTOCOL\SOCKETS.SYS DEVICE=G:\MPTN\PROTOCOL\AFOS2.SYS DEVICE=G:\MPTN\PROTOCOL\AFINET.SYS DEVICE=G:\MPTN\BIN\VDOSTCP.VDD RUN=G:\MPTN\BIN\CNTRL.EXE CALL=F:\OS2\CMD.EXE /Q /C G:\MPTN\BIN\MPTSTART.CMD >NUL RUN=G:\MPTN\BIN\VDOSCTL.EXE SET TCPLANG=en_US DEVICE=F:\TCPIP\bin\vdostcp.sys DEVICE=F:\OS2\BOOT\GAMEDD.SYS DEVICE=F:\OS2\BOOT\GAMEVDD.SYS REM **** Start of Fastback Plus Additions Device=H:\fastback\Dll\Fastback.sys rem remmed for DDFP1 to boot Device=H:\fastback\Dll\Fbscsi.sys Device=H:\fastback\Dll\Fbscsi.sys REM **** End of Fastback Plus Additions  Richard A Crane Check Copyright of this with the author or you may suffer litigation or embarrassment. and the C drive boot looks like IFS=C:\OS2\HPFS.IFS /CACHE:1024 /CRECL:4 /AUTOCHECK:FGH PROTSHELL=C:\OS2\PMSHELL.EXE SET USER_INI=C:\OS2\OS2.INI SET SYSTEM_INI=C:\OS2\OS2SYS.INI SET OS2_SHELL=C:\OS2\CMD.EXE SET AUTOSTART=PROGRAMS,TASKLIST,FOLDERS,CONNECTIONS,WARPCENTER SET RUNWORKPLACE=C:\OS2\PMSHELL.EXE SET COMSPEC=C:\OS2\CMD.EXE LIBPATH=.;C:\OS2\DLL;C:\IBMI18N\DLL;C:\MPTN\DLL;C:\IBMCOM\DLL;C:\OS2\MDOS;C:\;C : \OS2\APPS\DLL;F:\javaos2\dll;C:\MMOS2\DLL;C:\IBMINST;c:\tcpip\dll;c:\tcpip\pcom o s2;C:\TCPIP\UMAIL;C:\Fastback\Dll; SET PATH=C:\MPTN\BIN;C:\IBMCOM;C:\OS2;C:\OS2\SYSTEM;C:\OS2\INSTALL;C:\;C:\OS2\MDOS; C :\OS2\APPS;F:\javaos2\bin;C:\MMOS2;c:\tcpip\bin;c:\tcpip\pcomos2;C:\TCPIP\UMAIL ; SET DPATH=C:\MPTN;C:\IBMCOM;C:\OS2;C:\OS2\SYSTEM;C:\OS2\INSTALL;C:\;C:\OS2\BITMAP;C : \OS2\MDOS;C:\OS2\APPS;C:\MMOS2;C:\MMOS2\INSTALL;C:\IBMINST;C:\TCPIP\PCOMOS2; SET PROMPT=$i[$p] SET HELP=C:\MPTN;C:\OS2\HELP;C:\MMOS2\HELP;c:\tcpip\help;C:\TCPIP\UMAIL;C:\Fastback \ Help; SET GLOSSARY=C:\OS2\HELP\GLOSS; SET IPF_KEYS=SBCS PRIORITY_DISK_IO=YES FILES=20 BASEDEV=IBMKBD.SYS DEVICE=C:\IBMCOM\LANMSGDD.OS2 /I:C:\IBMCOM /S DEVICE=C:\IBMCOM\PROTMAN.OS2 /I:C:\IBMCOM DEVICE=C:\OS2\BOOT\TESTCFG.SYS DEVICE=C:\OS2\BOOT\DOS.SYS DEVICE=C:\OS2\BOOT\PMDD.SYS BUFFERS=90 IOPL=YES DISKCACHE=D,LW,AC:C MAXWAIT=2 MEMMAN=SWAP,PROTECT SWAPPATH=C:\OS2\SYSTEM 2048 2048 BREAK=OFF THREADS=1024 PRINTMONBUFSIZE=134,134,134 COUNTRY=061,C:\OS2\SYSTEM\COUNTRY.SYS SET KEYS=ON SET BOOKSHELF=C:\OS2\BOOK;C:\MMOS2;c:\tcpip\help; SET SOMIR=C:\OS2\ETC\SOM.IR;C:\OS2\ETC\WPSH.IR;C:\OS2\ETC\WPDSERV.IR;C:\OS2\ETC\REX X .IR SET SOMDDIR=C:\OS2\ETC\DSOM SET ULSPATH=C:\LANGUAGE SET LOCPATH=C:\IBMI18N\LOCALE;C:\LANGUAGE\LOCALE BASEDEV=TIMER0.SYS REM SET DELDIR=C:\DELETE,512;D:\DELETE,512;E:\DELETE,512;F:\DELETE,512;G:\DELETE,512;H: \ DELETE,512; BASEDEV=PRINT01.SYS BASEDEV=IBM1FLPY.ADD BASEDEV=IBM2FLPY.ADD BASEDEV=IBM1S506.ADD /V BASEDEV=XDFLOPPY.FLT BASEDEV=OS2DASD.DMD RUN=C:\OS2\SYSTEM\HYBERSET.EXE SET EPMPATH=C:\OS2\APPS; PROTECTONLY=NO SHELL=C:\OS2\MDOS\COMMAND.COM C:\OS2\MDOS FCBS=16,8 RMSIZE=640 DEVICE=C:\OS2\MDOS\VEMM.SYS DOS=LOW,NOUMB DEVICE=C:\OS2\MDOS\VXMS.SYS /UMB DEVICE=C:\OS2\MDOS\VDPMI.SYS DEVICE=C:\OS2\MDOS\VDPX.SYS BASEDEV=OS2SCSI.DMD BASEDEV=FLASHPT.ADD DEVICE=C:\OS2\BOOT\OS2CDROM.DMD /V IFS=C:\OS2\BOOT\CDFS.IFS /V DEVICE=C:\OS2\MDOS\VCDROM.SYS BASEDEV=IBMIDECD.FLT /V DEVICE=C:\OS2\MDOS\VMOUSE.SYS DEVICE=C:\OS2\BOOT\POINTDD.SYS DEVICE=C:\OS2\BOOT\MOUSE.SYS SERIAL=COM1 DEVICE=C:\OS2\BOOT\COM.SYS DEVICE=C:\OS2\MDOS\VCOM.SYS SET LANG=EN_AU SET TZ=est-10edt CODEPAGE=850,437 DEVINFO=KBD,US,C:\OS2\KEYBOARD.DCP DEVINFO=SCR,VGA,C:\OS2\BOOT\VIOTBL.DCP SET VIDEO_DEVICES=VIO_VGA SET VIO_VGA=DEVICE(BVHVGA) DEVICE=C:\OS2\MDOS\VSVGA.SYS SET DMIPATH=C:\DMISL\BIN RUN=C:\OS2\SMSTART.EXE SET CLASSPATH=F:\javaos2\lib\jempcl10.zip;.\. DEVICE=C:\MMOS2\SB16D2.SYS /C:1 /D:1 /H:5 /I:7 /A:220 /M:330 /N:SBAUD1$ /Q /P DEVICE=C:\MMOS2\AUDIOVDD.SYS SBAUD1$ SET MMBASE=C:\MMOS2; SET DSPPATH=C:\MMOS2\DSP; SET NCDEBUG=4000 RUN=C:\MMOS2\MIDIDMON.EXE DEVICE=C:\MMOS2\SSMDD.SYS DEVICE=C:\MMOS2\R0STUB.SYS DEVICE=C:\MMOS2\MIDI.SYS DEVICE=C:\MMOS2\VCSHDD.SYS RUN=C:\MMOS2\QRYMMCD.EXE CALL=C:\IBMCOM\PROTOCOL\NETBIND.EXE RUN=C:\IBMCOM\LANMSGEX.EXE SET NLSPATH=C:\MPTN\MSG\NLS\%N;c:\tcpip\msg\enus850\%N; SET ETC=C:\MPTN\ETC DEVICE=C:\MPTN\PROTOCOL\SOCKETS.SYS DEVICE=C:\MPTN\PROTOCOL\AFOS2.SYS DEVICE=C:\MPTN\PROTOCOL\AFINET.SYS DEVICE=C:\MPTN\PROTOCOL\IFNDIS.SYS RUN=C:\MPTN\BIN\CNTRL.EXE CALL=C:\OS2\CMD.EXE /Q /C C:\MPTN\BIN\MPTSTART.CMD >NUL DEVICE=C:\IBMCOM\MACS\NULLNDIS.OS2 SET I18NDIR=C:\IBMI18N SET TMP=c:\tcpip\tmp DEVICE=c:\tcpip\bin\vdostcp.vdd DEVICE=c:\tcpip\bin\vdostcp.sys RUN=c:\tcpip\bin\VDOSCTL.EXE REM **** Start of Fastback Plus Additions Device=C:\Fastback\Dll\Fastback.sys rem Device=C:\Fastback\Dll\Fbscsi.sys REM **** End of Fastback Plus Additions  NB i cant boot either c or f with dd1 installed unless I rem this fastback device - anyone with any clues?/ hints? ps General Protection Fault ... Retry or Replace General and continue? Civil libertarians may continue anyway? --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Global Network Services - Remote Access Mail & Ne (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: spam_free_norrisg@linkline.com 27-Oct-99 18:28:05 To: All 28-Oct-99 10:23:18 Subj: Re: Tool to dissassemble desktop objects? From: "Graham C. Norris" If you are not looking for something free to do this, I suggest you look at tools like Object Desktop, Unimaint or Deskman/2 (probably others also) which can create portable copies of desktop objects (and more). Graham. --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: spam_free_norrisg@linkline.com 27-Oct-99 18:32:14 To: All 28-Oct-99 10:23:18 Subj: Re: Pimple on my desktop's face From: "Graham C. Norris" You need to remember that an unqualified drag works differently between drives and within a drive. You can always force drag to copy by holding down the Ctrl key while you drag, or force it to move by holding down Shift while you drag. If you get into the habit of using Ctrl for copy and Shift for move, you'll never need to remember what is drag is going to default to. There's also Ctrl-Shift to create shadows of course. Graham. --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: ecmille@ibm.net 28-Oct-99 02:03:10 To: All 28-Oct-99 10:23:18 Subj: Lexmark Optra 40 From: ecmille@ibm.net (Ted Miller) Hello I have just acquired one of these printers . Installation went smoothly and the printer is producing very nice output with very little impact on system resources - (the main reason I chose this printer and gave up on the Lexmark 3200). However I have no experience with a Postscript based printer and am hoping that someone here can answer a few questions I have about performance and operation. I have noticed that there is a considerable delay between the the time a print job is sent to the spooler and the printer actually starts printing. E.G. I just printed a 3.5 x 5.0 inch jpg file through PMview and the printer spent about 4 minutes in processing mode before the image was printed. Is this normal performance for a postscript based printer? Would adding more memory to the base 4 megs speed up the processing? Is there anything else one can do to speed up the processing or is this just a characteristic of postscript printers? I am not overly concerned about this as there is no hit on system performance during the print process, but I would like to know just for the sake of knowledge. Also does anyone have an idea of how to use this printer in PCL5 emulation mode. The installation process only installed the postscript driver. Do I have to install a different driver to use PCL5 mode? I Looked on the insallation CD and although there were PCL5 drivers the Optra 40 was not listed in them. How does PCL5 differ from Postscript? Is there an advantage to use one over the other? Am I even asking the right or pertinent questions in regards to the above paragraph? Thanks in advance for any time one spends in responding to my queries. Ted Miller ecmille@ibm.net --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Global Network Services - Remote Access Mail & Ne (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: noone@llondel.demon.co.uk 28-Oct-99 06:59:00 To: All 28-Oct-99 10:23:19 Subj: Good Mice From: "Dave {Reply Address in.sig}" On Wed, 27 Oct 1999 23:16:08 -0400, lifedata@xxvol.com wrote: > >Interestingly, this is the only place I have been able to find a mouse I have >found to be highly servicable. > I've got a three-button Mouse Systems mouse here which must be six or seven years old and is still in good working order. It's got metal rollers, unlike the usual plastic ones which may be why it's lasted this long despite daily use. Dave -- mail dav e@llondel.demon.co.uk http://www.llondel.demon.co.uk Give blood... Play Rugby! --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: the bus stop (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: MtLavinia_nospam@nym._nospam.ali... 27-Oct-99 23:07:19 To: All 28-Oct-99 10:23:19 Subj: Re: FP12 trap. Pls help Message sender: MtLavinia_nospam@nym._nospam.alias.net From: "Lavinia" I thought I did remove it, but not the first boot. It was only after the failure that I removed it. Maybe I'll try again. Thanks, L. On Tue, 26 Oct 1999 23:39:39 -0400, Duane Chamblee wrote: >I've seen this... I bet you didn't remove Process Commander before >installing this fixpak. >Try removing it and rerun FP12. > >You may be able to reinstall PC, but I suggest that you don't. > >Lavinia wrote: >> >> I've installed FP12 over FP8. It all went well, and on reboot >> the locked drivers were applied. >> >> When the boot continues, I get numerous traps, all sys3175. The first one is >> for smstart.exe. There are numerous other traps, among them - >> \mptn\bin\cntrl.exe, \mptn\bin\inetwait, ibmcom\protocol\nbtcp.exe, >> \mptn\bin\vdosctl.exe, and finally it grinds to a halt with pmmerge.dll. >> >> The trap is the same for all, 0C0000005H which is XCPT_ACCESS_VIOLATION and >> the P1 code is 00000001H which is XCPT_READ_ACCESS. >> >> Can anyone tell me why these errors are occuring? I commented out smstart >> but the other traps still happen. What can I do to get FP12 to boot? >> >> I backed out to FP8 but would like to get 12 installed. --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: NeverUmind (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: MtLavinia_nospam@nym._nospam.ali... 27-Oct-99 23:11:19 To: All 28-Oct-99 10:23:19 Subj: Re: FP12 trap. Pls help Message sender: MtLavinia_nospam@nym._nospam.alias.net From: "Lavinia" There are several statements in the config.sys. There are 2 statements near the top, and a whole slew of stuff further down. In addition, \os2\boot\kbdbase.sys needs to be restored to the orginal file. I can't recall if PC made a copy or not, I always kept a copy. Also, in my directory I have a file called uninstpc.exe, which I presume will do the job you want. Good luck, L. On 27 Oct 1999 14:10:29 GMT, ablair@ibm.net wrote: >I seem to have done the same thing. > >Only problem is that after backing out to FP 10, I am left with the same >problem. I tried rem'ing out the config sys lines for Process commander, >but it still didn't work. Are there lines of PC that are not obvious that >I might have missed ? I can get to a command prompt to do some limited >adjustments. Any help is greatly appreciated. I am not looking forward to >a re-install. > >Alex > --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: NeverUmind (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: jaltman@watsun.cc.columbia.edu 28-Oct-99 06:35:16 To: All 28-Oct-99 10:23:19 Subj: Re: How to Transfer File with serial port? From: jaltman@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Jeffrey Altman) In article <176uZD2KcidF-pn2-GvY9K4ZCJnQz@rikki>, Bob Eager wrote: : On Tue, 19 Oct 1999 17:39:32, jaltman@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Jeffrey : Altman) wrote: : : > For the lastest information about Kermit on OS/2 please see : > : > http://www.kermit-project.org/os2.html : > : > not hobbes. : : Yes, but don't the newer (non-Hobbes) versions cost money? If you would read the link you would discover that while we describe the differences between Kermit 95 for OS/2 and OS/2 C-Kermit and request that you order K95 from us, we also make available OS/2 C-Kermit for free download. Now granted, OS/2 C-Kermit is older and as far as we are concerned is out of date. But it is completely functional within its limitations. Jeffrey Altman * Sr.Software Designer * Kermit-95 for Win32 and OS/2 The Kermit Project * Columbia University 612 West 115th St #716 * New York, NY * 10025 http://www.kermit-project.org/k95.html * kermit-support@kermit-project.org --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Columbia University (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: nospam_hkelder@capgemini.nl 28-Oct-99 09:04:19 To: All 28-Oct-99 10:23:19 Subj: Re: Tool to dissassemble desktop objects? From: Henk kelder Checkout wptoolxx.zip from: http://www.os2ss.com/information/kelder/index.html In the archive you'll find WPTOOLS.DLL which allows you to query object setupstrings. Henk goldin@crocker.com wrote: > > I am a relative newcomer to OS/2 (software engineer). I am creating > an installation CD for other developers which will copy various > tools onto their already-configured OS/2 system (e.g. compilers, > editors, etc) so that they can easily create a consistent > development environment. > > To do this I installed all these packages, then tarred up the > files. I can restore them without problems. However I would > like to also recreate the folders, icons, etc. created by the > original installation programs. > > I know how to create WP objects in REXX. But I don't have a good > way to know exactly what objects and attributes to create. I > have spent the last couple of days mucking with INI file editors, > trying to do DIFFs between the before and after HEX dumps but > this seems to be too error prone to work. > > Can anyone suggest a strategy to accomplish this task? > > Many thanks! > Sally Goldin > Consultant > goldin@crocker.com > > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ > Before you buy. -- Remove nospam when replying.. --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: capgemini.nl (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: wayne@SPAM.tkb.att.ne.jp 28-Oct-99 16:04:23 To: All 28-Oct-99 10:23:19 Subj: Re: Help with helps From: "Wayne Bickell" On Wed, 27 Oct 1999 21:53:19 +0200, peter volsted wrote: :>hi :> :>> lifedata@xxvol.com wrote: :> :>> Where on my system can I find help for working with DSK files? I have tried at :>> the command line "help dsk" and "help loaddskf" (among other things). :> :>>From command prompt try \loaddskf -? :> :>good luck :> :>peter :> :> Go to Hobbes and do a search for DS4PM it makes working with these disk images painless. Cheers Wayne ****************************************************** Wayne Bickell Tokyo, Japan wayne@tkb.att.ne.jp ****************************************************** Posted with PMINews 2 for OS/2 Running on OS/2 Warp 4 (UK) + FixPak 9 ****************************************************** --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: AT&T Internet Service (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: cbzh@my-deja.com 28-Oct-99 06:56:11 To: All 28-Oct-99 10:23:19 Subj: Re: Bootos2 options From: cbzh@my-deja.com In article <38173ac9$2$yvsrqngn$mr2ice@news.vol.com>, lifedata@xxvol.com wrote: > raphaelt@netnews.worldnet.att.net (Raphael Tennenbaum) said: > > >It's really hard for me to imagine you've been using OS/2 as > >long as you have and can't fathom that the options listed > > As I said, I have stayed as far away from command line ANYTHING as possible. > This is the first time, anywhere, I have seen command line switches referred to > as SYNTAX. Maybe that is common as fleas on a dog where you hang out, but it is > the only place I've seen it. From what little I know about command line stuff Sorry if I am laughing a bit about the discussion that you two are having here, but it's not about you but about myself that I am laughing: What you are saying here just reminds me at what I experienced when I learned to program "Pascal" some 15 years ago (or even more?) after having started with "BASIC" some years earlier. There was no german book around, but an english one - and I was thinking I understand that easily :-) After some reading I had to admit that there was one key word I did not understand at all: They were constantly talking about "files" - what the hell is that?? I only understood that I would not understand a lot if I did NOT find out the meaning of this word... I took an old english dictionary and there it was explained that this has something to do with soldiers marching in a row etc.... I really had a hard time to find out what the word means just guessing and taking the context into account - and there was still no internet where I could have asked questions :-)) My point is: Some "very easy" things definitely ARE not easy for everybody... Greetings, Cornelis PS: This posting is no implicit criticism about ANY of you two participants of the discussion - just in case this this isn't evident :-)) > that long list of stuff would not fit on any command line anywhere - not even > half of it. Therefore I thought it must be something unusual I'd never heard > of. You see, not everybody eats, sleeps and breathes computer lingo. I don't > use OS/2 because, as somebody said, I like the fact that it is difficult. I use > it do do things. I had bootos2 in my computer archives well over a year trying > to make sense of its "instructions." > > I dare say there are some disciplines in which I could think circles around some > computer geniuses. But I would not ridicule them just because their expertise > is in a different field than mine. > > And... It's really hard for me to imagine it would require a specially trained > technical writer to simply say this "syntax" is the same thing as command line > switches. > > This is the thing I hate about OS/2 the most. The idea that you have to think > like a computer hacker to use it, and the idea that you're some kind of freak if > you don't. > > Jim L > Remove XX from address to Email > Crooks and kooks will get guns regardless of laws. > > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy. --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Deja.com - Before you buy. (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: rde@tavi.co.uk 28-Oct-99 07:49:04 To: All 28-Oct-99 10:23:19 Subj: Re: How to Transfer File with serial port? From: rde@tavi.co.uk (Bob Eager) On Thu, 28 Oct 1999 06:35:33, jaltman@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Jeffrey Altman) wrote: > : Yes, but don't the newer (non-Hobbes) versions cost money? > > If you would read the link you would discover that while we describe > the differences between Kermit 95 for OS/2 and OS/2 C-Kermit and > request that you order K95 from us, we also make available OS/2 C-Kermit > for free download. I think that's what I said. -- Bob Eager rde at tavi.co.uk PC Server 325; PS/2s 8595*3, 9595*3 (2*P60 + P90), 8535, 8570, 9556*2, 8580*6, 8557*2, 8550, 9577, 8530, P70, PC/AT.. --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Tavi Systems (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: jknott@ibm.net 27-Oct-99 07:38:23 To: All 28-Oct-99 11:18:04 Subj: Re: Networking 2 home computers... From: jknott@ibm.net (James Knott) Actually, 10Base2 (coaxial) cards are getting scarce. In article <3813BA3A.9DB71952@home.com>, Gary Dale <2822232030@home.com> wrote: >If you are running at 10M bps then you can probably use coaxial ethernet >cable. Almost all 10M cards have both coax and twisted pair connectors. If >you are wiring up a home or office, then go with Cat 5 twisted pair. >Otherwise, a simple coax network avoids the need for a hub. However, it is >worth noting that 10M hubs are dirt cheap these days, and even 100M hubs >can be reasonable. > >devlin wrote: > >> Hub not needed for networking two computers if you use a 4 wire >> ethernet cable. >> >> I am running my two computer network with one NIC card in each and one >> 4 wire eithernet cable and it works fantastic! >> >> Hub only needed if you are going to be connecting more than two. >> >> On Tue, 24 Aug 1999 00:06:10 -0700, Dane wrote: >> >> >Philip Wright wrote: >> >> >> >> A 3COM OfficeConnect 4 port hub is dirt cheap (~$40). >> >> Rather than fool with crossover cables I would recommend >> >> a hub for simplicity and expandability. >> >> >> >> Philip Wright >> > >> >I'll take a $7 Cat 5 crossover cable anyday of the week >> >over a $40 hub. Add to it a pair of Pro 100 Ethernet >> >cards and you have a very fast network. >> > >> >-- >> >Anti-Spamming measures. To reply to me, remove nospam. >> >and ROT-13 my email address: qnar@nospam.fbhguynaq.arg > -- E-mail jknott@ca.ibm.com _________________________________________________________________________ The above opinions are my own and not those of ISM Corp., a subsidiary of IBM Canada Ltd. --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Global Network Services - Remote Access Mail & Ne (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: tbruijn.nospam@rullet.leidenuniv.nl 28-Oct-99 09:02:01 To: All 28-Oct-99 11:18:04 Subj: Re: New OS/2 device driver development From: tbruijn.nospam@rullet.leidenuniv.nl (TB) In article <7v8g58$i94$0@216.155.33.103>, n3jja@my.address.is.my.business.jackoff (Jim Nuytens) wrote: > >Definately USB scanners. That's about the only thing I boot W95 for >these days. > > > >"The bureaucratic mentality is the only constant in the universe." >Dr. McCoy to Kirk / Star Trek IV:The Voyage Home W95 (up to 4.00.1**** anyway) is just as USB-impaired as OS2. You mean W98. Th. --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: University of Leiden The Netherlands (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: tkellerer@my-deja.com 28-Oct-99 09:16:26 To: All 28-Oct-99 11:18:04 Subj: Can't read multisession CD's From: Thomas Kellerer Hello, I have a multisession CD which I burned using NT at my office. I have one old Toshiba CD ROM and a TEAC CD-R55S at home. While the old (doublespeed) Toshiba has *no* problems reading the files from the second session, the TEAC does not display any of the files which were written in the second session. Any ideas why the TEAD behaves in such a way (as they are both using the same driver)??? Thanks in advance Thomas Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy. --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Deja.com - Before you buy. (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: ivan@protein.bio.msu.su 28-Oct-99 14:45:10 To: All 28-Oct-99 11:18:04 Subj: Re: Can't read multisession CD's From: "Ivan Adzhubei" In <7v94a4$g6q$1@nnrp1.deja.com>, on 10/28/99 at 09:16 AM, Thomas Kellerer said: Thomas, You are not alone (although it does not help you much :). This is a very hardware-specific issue. I had an ancient LaserOptics 2-speed CD dirive here that usually reads 90% of my multisession CD's flawlessly, then I had another old (but much younger :) Creative CD-ROM that won't even recognize _any_ multisession CD put in it. I also have a 12x Panasonic drive which reads everything I put in it on the first try, and I just got a newer 32x Panasonic model which can hardly read 50% of multisession CD's (it also does not support "long read" option, while the older Panas model does). Looks kinda black magic to me... BTW, from my experience this is basically non-OS-specific problem. Cheers, Ivan >I have a multisession CD which I burned using NT at my office. I have >one old Toshiba CD ROM and a TEAC CD-R55S at home. While the old >(doublespeed) Toshiba has *no* problems reading the files from the >second session, the TEAC does not display any of the files which were >written in the second session. >Any ideas why the TEAD behaves in such a way (as they are both using >the same driver)??? >Thanks in advance >Thomas >Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ >Before you buy. -- ----------------------------------------------------------- "Ivan Adzhubei" ----------------------------------------------------------- --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Moscow State University (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: cocke@ibm.net 28-Oct-99 07:34:02 To: All 28-Oct-99 11:18:04 Subj: Re: My big mouth. From: Michael W. Cocke On Wed, 27 Oct 1999 23:16:08 -0400, lifedata@xxvol.com wrote: >Apparently my big mouth has had a good effect in at least one case. > >I just got a note from http://computergeek.com that they have fixed their sales >system so non-M$ Explorer browsers can use it. I went there and, surely enough, >I was able to put merchandise into my shopping cart. > >Unfortunately there is still a hang up in the checkout, but I have informed them >of that and expect it will be fixed. > >Interestingly, this is the only place I have been able to find a mouse I have >found to be highly servicable. > >Jim L >Remove XX from address to Email >Crooks and kooks will get guns regardless of laws. > > I decided to take a look, and all I got at that url was a screen saying to check back in august. (August!?) Mike- ======================================================================== Member: DNRC Watcher: Babylon 5 User: OS/2 Warp If you're going to do something, do something worth doing. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Global Network Services - Remote Access Mail & Ne (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: mcbrides@erols.com 28-Oct-99 06:52:10 To: All 28-Oct-99 11:18:04 Subj: Re: WSeB Client sorta news From: mcbrides@erols.com (Jerry McBride) In article <3817AF57.C070A15F@attglobal.net>, Scott wrote: >I was over on Stardocks newsgroup and saw this, it was interesting (if >not a little confusing as to what it means)... enjoy... > > >> Just got this from WarpCast: >> >> Source: Oliver Mark, IBM Germany (o.mark@teamos2.de) >> Moderator: Trevor Smith (trevor@haligonian.com) >> ------------------------------------------------------- >> >> During a trip to IBM in Austin, I had a chance to speak to Steven >> King (well known to all OS/2-guys) and fresh from the source, here's >> his announcement: >> >> There IS a service offering from IBM for installation and support of >> an official Aurora Client to be officially announced within the next >> couple of days. >> --- snip --- It simply means that a new OS/2 client will be offered sometime in the next couple of months. It' won't be on a CD that you can orderup and have mailed to your address. It'll be provided as part of a service, where an IBM employee comes to your place of business and installs the thing... You "are" a business customer, aren't you??? :') -- ******************************************************************************* * Sometimes, the BEST things in life really ARE free... * * Get a FREE copy of NetRexx 1.151 for your next java project at: * * * * GET IT NOW! WHILE IT'S STILL FREE! * * * * http://www2.hursley.ibm.com/netrexx * ******************************************************************************* /----------------------------------------\ | From the desktop of: Jerome D. McBride | | mcbrides@erols.com | \----------------------------------------/ -- --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: TEAM-NETREXX (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: mcbrides@erols.com 28-Oct-99 06:56:03 To: All 28-Oct-99 11:18:04 Subj: Re: Networking 2 home computers... From: mcbrides@erols.com (Jerry McBride) In article , jknott@ibm.net (James Knott) wrote: > >Actually, 10Base2 (coaxial) cards are getting scarce. > >In article <3813BA3A.9DB71952@home.com>, >Gary Dale <2822232030@home.com> wrote: >>If you are running at 10M bps then you can probably use coaxial ethernet >>cable. Almost all 10M cards have both coax and twisted pair connectors. If >>you are wiring up a home or office, then go with Cat 5 twisted pair. >>Otherwise, a simple coax network avoids the need for a hub. However, it is >>worth noting that 10M hubs are dirt cheap these days, and even 100M hubs >>can be reasonable. >> >>devlin wrote: >> >>> Hub not needed for networking two computers if you use a 4 wire >>> ethernet cable. >>> >>> I am running my two computer network with one NIC card in each and one >>> 4 wire eithernet cable and it works fantastic! >>> >>> Hub only needed if you are going to be connecting more than two. >>> >>> On Tue, 24 Aug 1999 00:06:10 -0700, Dane wrote: >>> >>> >Philip Wright wrote: >>> >> >>> >> A 3COM OfficeConnect 4 port hub is dirt cheap (~$40). >>> >> Rather than fool with crossover cables I would recommend >>> >> a hub for simplicity and expandability. >>> >> >>> >> Philip Wright >>> > >>> >I'll take a $7 Cat 5 crossover cable anyday of the week >>> >over a $40 hub. Add to it a pair of Pro 100 Ethernet >>> >cards and you have a very fast network. >>> > >>> >-- >>> >Anti-Spamming measures. To reply to me, remove nospam. >>> >and ROT-13 my email address: qnar@nospam.fbhguynaq.arg >> Anyone here done a 2 computer network with fibre? I'm saving up the computer budget money to do just that and I'm interested in anything you have to comment on this subject. Thanks. -- ******************************************************************************* * Sometimes, the BEST things in life really ARE free... * * Get a FREE copy of NetRexx 1.151 for your next java project at: * * * * GET IT NOW! WHILE IT'S STILL FREE! * * * * http://www2.hursley.ibm.com/netrexx * ******************************************************************************* /----------------------------------------\ | From the desktop of: Jerome D. McBride | | mcbrides@erols.com | \----------------------------------------/ -- --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: TEAM-NETREXX (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: hunters@thunder.indstate.edu 28-Oct-99 02:15:01 To: All 28-Oct-99 11:18:05 Subj: Re: Wesb Boot From: hunters@thunder.indstate.edu In article <381776d8_2@news1.prserv.net>, "Valheru" wrote: > Can any post an image file for warp server for e-business so I can > recover some files? Thanks No. First off, this isn't a binary group. Second, if you don't have the CD, you don't own a legal copy. If you *do* have a CD, you can make your own disks. -- -Steven Hunter *OS/2 Warp 4 * | hunters@thunder.indstate.edu *AMD K6-2 400* | Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy. --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Deja.com - Before you buy. (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: blackdeath@13softhome.net 28-Oct-99 02:20:26 To: All 28-Oct-99 11:18:05 Subj: Re: MS .asf files on Linux? From: blackdeath@13softhome.net (Stewart Honsberger) On Wed, 27 Oct 1999 21:47:22 +0000, Erik de Castro Lopo wrote: >Until Micros~1 releases a Linux ASF player (about 1 second before hell >freezes over) or someone reverse engineers ASF you're not going to be >able to play that file on Linux. That's sortof obvious. :/ I've been looking for the same thing - although I'll also accept an OS/2 program to do same (hence the additional newsgroup). -- Stewart Honsberger (AKA Blackdeath) @ http://sprk.com/blackdeath/ blackdeath@13softhome.net (Remove 'thirteen' to reply privately) Humming along under SuSE Linux 6.0 / OS/2 Warp 4 --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: http://sprk.com/blackdeath/ (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: htravis@ibm.net 27-Oct-99 22:36:16 To: All 28-Oct-99 11:18:05 Subj: Re: Lexmark Optra 40 From: htravis@ibm.net (Harry Travis) In <3817aee8_1@news3.prserv.net>, on 10/28/99 at 02:03 AM, ecmille@ibm.net (Ted Miller) said: >Hello >I have just acquired one of these printers . Installation went smoothly >and the printer is producing very nice output with very little impact >on system resources - (the main reason I chose this printer and gave up >on the Lexmark 3200). However I have no experience with a Postscript >based printer and am hoping that someone here can answer a few >questions I have about performance and operation. > I have noticed that there is a considerable delay between the the >time a print job is sent to the spooler and the printer actually starts >printing. E.G. I just printed a 3.5 x 5.0 inch jpg file through PMview >and the printer spent about 4 minutes in processing mode before the >image was printed. Is this normal performance for a postscript based >printer? Would adding more memory to the base 4 megs speed up the >processing? Is there anything else one can do to speed up the >processing or is this just a characteristic of postscript printers? I >am not overly concerned about this as there is no hit on system >performance during the print process, but I would like to know just for >the sake of knowledge. > Also does anyone have an idea of how to use this printer in PCL5 >emulation mode. The installation process only installed the postscript >driver. Do I have to install a different driver to use PCL5 mode? I >Looked on the insallation CD and although there were PCL5 drivers the >Optra 40 was not listed in them. How does PCL5 differ from Postscript? >Is there an advantage to use one over the other? Am I even asking the >right or pertinent questions in regards to the above paragraph? >Thanks in advance for any time one spends in responding to my queries. >Ted Miller >ecmille@ibm.net > An inveterate OS/2 user reports that this printer will put many more smiles on your face if you shove some inexpensive 72 pin simms in it. If Postscript were meant to run within 4 meg, Lexmark wouldn't have led you to think 68 meg of memory is something anyone might want to shove in it. The big sister model 45 comes with 16 meg standard. -- ----------------------------------------------------------- htravis@ibm.net (Harry Travis) DemostiX ----------------------------------------------------------- --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Global Network Services - Remote Access Mail & Ne (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: swaugh1@attglobal.net 27-Oct-99 22:05:06 To: All 28-Oct-99 11:18:05 Subj: WSeB Client sorta news From: Scott I was over on Stardocks newsgroup and saw this, it was interesting (if not a little confusing as to what it means)... enjoy... > Just got this from WarpCast: > > Source: Oliver Mark, IBM Germany (o.mark@teamos2.de) > Moderator: Trevor Smith (trevor@haligonian.com) > ------------------------------------------------------- > > During a trip to IBM in Austin, I had a chance to speak to Steven > King (well known to all OS/2-guys) and fresh from the source, here's > his announcement: > > There IS a service offering from IBM for installation and support of > an official Aurora Client to be officially announced within the next > couple of days. > > This includes fee-based onsite installation based on a modified > version of the Server to install Warp 4.5 Client including MPTS, > TCPIP, LAN Requester, Syst. Mgmt. comp., Netscape, Java and so on; as > well as a supportline contract for reporting problems to IBM. Once > again, this is a fee-based service-offering, it's NOT a shrinkwrap CD > for endusers. If you are a IBM-Business-customer, contact either > Steven King (for North and South Amerika) or me (for Europe) for more > information. > > > Chris Stumpf > C.S.E. Computer Services > Computer Consultant (OS/2, Lan, Wan, CTI) > Serenity Systems Channel Partner > IBM Certified Systems Expert - OS/2 Warp 4 > > > web: http://cse.anterras.net > email: cse@anterras.net > phone: (732)918-2480 > > > --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Global Network Services - Remote Access Mail & Ne (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: lifedata@xxvol.com 27-Oct-99 23:16:04 To: All 28-Oct-99 11:18:05 Subj: My big mouth. From: lifedata@xxvol.com Apparently my big mouth has had a good effect in at least one case. I just got a note from http://computergeek.com that they have fixed their sales system so non-M$ Explorer browsers can use it. I went there and, surely enough, I was able to put merchandise into my shopping cart. Unfortunately there is still a hang up in the checkout, but I have informed them of that and expect it will be fixed. Interestingly, this is the only place I have been able to find a mouse I have found to be highly servicable. Jim L Remove XX from address to Email Crooks and kooks will get guns regardless of laws. --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: bCandid - Powering the world's discussions - http (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: n3jja@my.address.is.my.business.... 28-Oct-99 03:32:28 To: All 28-Oct-99 11:18:05 Subj: Re: New OS/2 device driver development Message sender: n3jja@my.address.is.my.business.jackoff From: n3jja@my.address.is.my.business.jackoff (Jim Nuytens) On Wed, 27 Oct 1999 13:19:42, "David T. Johnson" wrote: > The single biggest driver issue right now for OS/2 is getting > motherboard BIOSs that will allow OS/2 to find more than 64 MB of DRAM. > Many of the BIOS versions have an OS/2 memory > 64MB option but it often > does not work properly. And yes, this isn't really a 'driver' issue but > it is important. Not to be flippant or offend you in any way, but where the &$^#$% are you buying your hardware from that you have this problem? I've got 128 MB of RAM recognized in Warp 3 and Warp4 on a FIC-503+ motherboard. My previous 2 motherboards also did not have this problem. You must be shopping the wrong hardware. > So perhaps the most helpful drivers would be AGP 2x and 4x drivers and > USB scanner drivers. Definately USB scanners. That's about the only thing I boot W95 for these days. "The bureaucratic mentality is the only constant in the universe." Dr. McCoy to Kirk / Star Trek IV:The Voyage Home --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Origin Line 1 Goes Here (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: frank_mckenney@mindspring.com 28-Oct-99 03:35:22 To: All 28-Oct-99 11:18:05 Subj: MSWinNT 4 share causes TRAP 000d? From: frank_mckenney@mindspring.com (Frank McKenney) Is there any reason why sharing a drive (okay, partition) on a MSWinNT 4 box should cause my OS/2 system (Warp 4, XR_M012) to trap? For the past four weeks I've had an HP Pentium-III as a third box on my internal network. Until recently my use of the network connection had been sporadic, since my initial development effort has been done under OS/2. Now that I'm installing code on the NT box and testing it, I've made its E: partition (2 Gb) accessible and am NET USEing it from OS/2. Unfortunately, after almost eight _months_ without a trap, OS/2 has died horribly four times in the past two weeks. In all cases I was performing operations on files (opening, creating, deleting, etc.) on the NT shared partition at either a DOS or an OS/2 command prompt. Any suggestions on what might be causing this to happen (and how I might avoid it in the future) would be appreciated. If it makes any difference (one would't think it would) the other box on the LAN is a 486DX4-100 system running S.u.S.E Linux v5.3. Here are the critical elements extracted from the first standalone dump diskette (DUMPDATA.001). This approach beats the H*ll out of copying that silly stuff from the screen, and it provides more information: the "Exception in IFNET$" line never made it to the screen. -- ##0168:fff4832e - 000e:c32e , 05860526 9084 9084 Exception in device driver: IFNET$ TRAP 000d ERRCD=0000 ERACC=**** ERLIM=******** EAX=ffe18588 EBX=fff06a4c ECX=00000003 EDX=000025c0 ESI=fff08d74 EDI=fdf64f84 EBP=00001fc2 FLG=00012012 CS:EIP=25f0:00005963 CSACC=009b CSLIM=0000821b SS:ESP=00e8:00001fae SSACC=0093 SSLIM=00001fff DS=25e8 DSACC=0093 DSLIM=00003381 CR0=8001001b ES=25e8 ESACC=0093 ESLIM=00003381 CR2=00029000 FS=2360 FSACC=1093 FSLIM=0000ffff GS=0000 GSACC=**** GSLIM=******** -- Internal revision 9.036, 99/07/20 -- Frank McKenney, McKenney Associates Richmond, Virginia / (804) 320-4887 E-mail: frank_mckenney@mindspring.com --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: McKenney Associates (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: lifedata@xxvol.com 27-Oct-99 23:32:20 To: All 28-Oct-99 11:18:05 Subj: Re: Bootos2 options From: lifedata@xxvol.com raphaelt@netnews.worldnet.att.net (Raphael Tennenbaum) said: >Elitism? I hope not. Realism, I hope. I didn't mean to >single you out, Jim. But let's look at the situation >another way: Ken Kahn, an IBM employee, takes a good bit of >time to write a utility, and offers it for free via IBM. I >don't believe he got paid extra for it, though I may be Okay, I am not unknown to have programed in a couple languages for other people - for free - some years back. On such occasions I did my level best to make documentation clear and complete. I am convinced that documentation is part and parcel of the software. I have not and will not use remuneration or the lack of it as an excuse to scrimp on documentation. If I feel bad about not getting paid I don't write the program. I really fail to understand why anyone would feel obligated to agrue in favor of poor documentation under any circumstances. Jim L Remove XX from address to Email Crooks and kooks will get guns regardless of laws. --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: bCandid - Powering the world's discussions - http (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: lifedata@xxvol.com 27-Oct-99 23:39:08 To: All 28-Oct-99 11:18:05 Subj: Re: Floppies/Utilities again From: lifedata@xxvol.com nospam@null (Richard A Crane) said: >> If you'll read what I wrote (quoted above) you'll see that I DID REMOVE the >> necessary files >And therein is the problem? >Richard A Crane >Check Copyright of this with the author or you may suffer litigation or >embarrassment. Are we supposed to be on the same subject? Jim L Remove XX from address to Email Crooks and kooks will get guns regardless of laws. --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: bCandid - Powering the world's discussions - http (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: lifedata@xxvol.com 27-Oct-99 23:40:13 To: All 28-Oct-99 11:18:05 Subj: Re: Help with helps From: lifedata@xxvol.com peter volsted said: >>From command prompt try \loaddskf -? Thanks to you and others. Jim L Remove XX from address to Email Crooks and kooks will get guns regardless of laws. --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: bCandid - Powering the world's discussions - http (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: lifedata@xxvol.com 27-Oct-99 23:41:13 To: All 28-Oct-99 11:18:05 Subj: Re: Pimple on my desktop's face From: lifedata@xxvol.com "Paul M. Pilon" said: > Try Bruce Henry's File Freedom Program. It's great for these kinds of >situations. I believe you can get it from: > http://www.kw.igs.net/~brhenry Thanks. In spite of the rise of object oriented computing I use a registered copy of File Freedom (now freeware) to do just about everything. It would not delete the file until I found its "parent" on the hard drive and deleted that. Jim L Remove XX from address to Email Crooks and kooks will get guns regardless of laws. --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: bCandid - Powering the world's discussions - http (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: hamei@pacbell.net 28-Oct-99 03:56:00 To: All 28-Oct-99 11:18:05 Subj: Re: My big mouth. From: hamei@pacbell.net In <3817c135$1$yvsrqngn$mr2ice@news.vol.com>, lifedata@xxvol.com writes: >Apparently my big mouth has had a good effect in at least one case. > >I just got a note from http://computergeek.com that they have fixed their sales >system so non-M$ Explorer browsers can use it. I went there and, surely enough, >I was able to put merchandise into my shopping cart. at one time their site didn't work with WebEx either . . they changed that too. Computer Geeks must be one of those silly places which want to make sales over the internet, not prove how whiz-bang uptodate kool they are. Ever wonder what webmasters use for brains ? They want your money, but many restrict their target population right off the bat. When I see that "you need to download a better browser" I immediately think, " No I don't, bye, and thanks for saving me a few bucks." > >Unfortunately there is still a hang up in the checkout, but I have informed them >of that and expect it will be fixed. > >Interestingly, this is the only place I have been able to find a mouse I have >found to be highly servicable. > >Jim L -- h„rad ‘ngravv†d --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: SBC Internet Services (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: esther@bitranch.com 28-Oct-99 04:35:10 To: All 28-Oct-99 11:18:05 Subj: Re: Is my blood boiling... From: esther@bitranch.com (Esther Schindler) On Wed, 27 Oct 1999 17:51:33, lifedata@xxvol.com wrote: | (Esther Schindler) said: | >Well, either that says something about the quality and responsiveness | >of your ISP, or | | I think it simply says they are sheep in the M$ fold. I doubt it. Plenty of people take the easy path, the default options, the no-brainer choice. If they accept your OS/2 options file, they'll have to take responsibility for something they don't understand -- and are unprepared to understand. Do *you* want to promise something to your customers that you aren't sure you can deliver? Probably not. It *could* also mean that you presented yourself poorly, when you made the offer. I'm not saying that this is the case, of course, I've seen plenty of messages that say, "I'm sure you're too stupid to take my advice," and the note-author apparently believes that this is a genuine offer of help. --Esther --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Frontier GlobalCenter Inc. (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: miket@interact.net.au 28-Oct-99 14:36:09 To: All 28-Oct-99 11:18:05 Subj: Using a networked HP LJ3100 ? From: Michael Taylor We have a HP LJ3100 installed on a NT Server V4 file and print server. Is there any way I can print to it from OS/2 V4? I know it is a WinPrinter and we have the HP JetSuite installed on the NT box. The NT4 WS boxes can print to it but only from Win Apps (ie "print' from the DOS command line doesn't work!). -- Regards, Mick Michael Taylor Senior Technical Specialist Search Software America PO Box 22, Braddon Canberra, ACT 2612, Australia Michael_Taylor@searchsoftware.com http://www.searchsoftware.com --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: InterACT Technology Group http://www.interact.net (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: rsteiner@visi.com 27-Oct-99 23:30:15 To: All 28-Oct-99 11:18:05 Subj: Re: Bootos2 options From: rsteiner@visi.com (Richard Steiner) Here in comp.os.os2.misc, lifedata@xxvol.com spake unto us, saying: >raphaelt@netnews.worldnet.att.net (Raphael Tennenbaum) said: > >>It's really hard for me to imagine you've been using OS/2 as >>long as you have and can't fathom that the options listed > >As I said, I have stayed as far away from command line ANYTHING as >possible. This is the first time, anywhere, I have seen command line >switches referred to as SYNTAX. Maybe it could be more clearly written, but it does seem to follow a fairly standard (and relatively clear, at least to me) format. What else would syntax mean in the context of a utility, anyway? I've been a command-line junkie for years, so I guess I really don't have your perspective. It's always interesting to see how different people can view the same thing so differently. On the positive side -- you've learned something. :-) -- -Rich Steiner >>>---> rsteiner@visi.com >>>---> Bloomington, MN OS/2 + BeOS + Linux + Solaris + Win95 + WinNT4 + FreeBSD + DOS + VMWare + Fusion + vMac + Executor = PC Hobbyist Heaven! :-) Never believe anything until it's been officially denied. --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: FIELDATA FORTRAN ENTHUSIASTS CLUB (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: bobg.REMOVEME.@pics.com 28-Oct-99 01:19:15 To: All 28-Oct-99 11:18:05 Subj: Re: New OS/2 device driver development From: Bob Germer On <3816FBEE.F94D195B@isomedia.com>, on 10/27/99 at 09:19 AM, "David T. Johnson" said: > Well, the driver situation isn't great but, IMO, it isn't terrible > either. The single biggest driver issue right now for OS/2 is getting > motherboard BIOSs that will allow OS/2 to find more than 64 MB of DRAM. > Many of the BIOS versions have an OS/2 memory > 64MB option but it often > does not work properly. And yes, this isn't really a 'driver' issue but > it is important. Well, I don't know why you have such problems. I have >64 Megs on at least 2 dozen different motherboards either in my own shop or on clients' machines. We have no-name boards, Intel, Tyan, ASUS, Premio, and other motherboards in the mix, all of which recognize more than 64 Megs. -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------- Bob Germer from Mount Holly, NJ - E-mail: bobg@Pics.com Proudly running OS/2 Warp 4.0 w/ FixPack 12 MR/2 Ice Registration Number 67 Aut Pax Aut Bellum ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------- --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Origin Line 1 Goes Here (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: jr_fox@earthlink.net 28-Oct-99 05:39:08 To: All 28-Oct-99 11:18:05 Subj: Re: FP12 trap. Pls help From: Jordan Fox This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------DC35A0913B3D882560EEAE9A Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I first tried to reply to the reply by "Nemo", but it bounced. Trying again. * * * * * * * * * * * * * Duane Chamblee wrote: > I've seen this... I bet you didn't remove Process Commander before > installing this fixpak. > Try removing it and rerun FP12. > > You may be able to reinstall PC, but I suggest that you don't. > > Lavinia wrote: > > > > I've installed FP12 over FP8. It all went well, and on reboot > > the locked drivers were applied. > > > > When the boot continues, I get numerous traps, all sys3175. The first one is > > for smstart.exe. There are numerous other traps, among them - > > \mptn\bin\cntrl.exe, \mptn\bin\inetwait, ibmcom\protocol\nbtcp.exe, > > \mptn\bin\vdosctl.exe, and finally it grinds to a halt with pmmerge.dll. > > > > The trap is the same for all, 0C0000005H which is XCPT_ACCESS_VIOLATION and > > the P1 code is 00000001H which is XCPT_READ_ACCESS. > > > > Can anyone tell me why these errors are occuring? I commented out smstart > > but the other traps still happen. What can I do to get FP12 to boot? > > > > I backed out to FP8 but would like to get 12 installed. --------------DC35A0913B3D882560EEAE9A Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; name="PC-PROB.TXT" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline; filename="PC-PROB.TXT" Hi -- For some reason, Quoting is greyed out in this NS 2.02 News Reply window (usually not the case), so I'll have to para- phrase. You said that PROCESS COMMANDER substitues some system files, which is correct; that it must be "removed" prior to instal- ling a fixpack, also correct; that adjusting Config.Sys is not sufficient, which is probably not correct. I have been using PC for a couple years. It has gotten me out of some sizable scrapes, and failed miserably at getting me out of some others (most likely involving a jam-up of the SIQ). When I'm about to do any major install, or apply a FP, I first reboot using a different Config.Sys which does not reference PC files / directories, and instead points to the default OS/2 DOSCALL1.DLL (may not have that name exactly right, but it is a key file that PC replaces with it's own version). This has proved satisfactory thus far. OTOH, it's been a while since I applied a FP . . . . The last CSD for PC was in early '97. Stardock has since fixed some of these issues (screwing up some UniMaint functions, for instance) in OBJECT DESKTOP, but has shown no inclination to do the same for PC. A couple months ago, someone mentioned _here_ that he was de- veloping a new Process Killer that would eclipse what PC can do. I thought I had saved the message, but can't find it now. The prospective name for this utility sounded more like a "DOOM" type of game, IIRC. Anyone know what this was, or how to contact the author ?  --------------DC35A0913B3D882560EEAE9A-- --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: EarthLink Network, Inc. (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: morgannalefey@my-deja.com 28-Oct-99 12:19:26 To: All 28-Oct-99 14:45:06 Subj: Re: GAH! Got a Trap error on our print server! Help! From: Siobhan Perricone In article , nospam@null wrote: > 1. The "online ddpak" is a reference to the online site for device drivers run > by IBM - the easiest way to locate it and access it is through installing the > OS/2 Device Driver CD which comes with WARP 4 or the URl which may wrap is > http://ps.software.ibm.com/pbin-usa-ps/getobj.pl?/pdocs- usa/otherservices.html. I've been wandering there. The problem is that it's very hard to know what's relevant to you and what isn't. And I don't have a lot of time to spend studying this stuff. I don't just support this one machine. :) the other thing is, the OS/2 machine doesn't have web access. It *only* does this print server function, and *literally* nothing else. I don't want it doing anything else, it has a hard enough time with just this print server function. > 5. Lucidity of expression is a big factor in these newsgroups - I find that I > sometimes have to (re) state (and I thought I was just repeating myself) the > problem twice or more to get responses addressing the problem- so I recommend a > large dose of patience in them I certainly hope I wasn't coming across as impatient! I'm certainly grateful for all the help people have given me. If it weren't for these newsgroups, I'd be in deep doo doo! :) -- Siobhan Perricone PC Technician Alltel Information Services (I only speak for myself, not for Alltel) Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy. --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Deja.com - Before you buy. (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: n3jja@my.address.is.my.business.... 28-Oct-99 13:34:23 To: All 28-Oct-99 14:45:06 Subj: Re: New OS/2 device driver development Message sender: n3jja@my.address.is.my.business.jackoff From: n3jja@my.address.is.my.business.jackoff (Jim Nuytens) On Thu, 28 Oct 1999 09:02:02, tbruijn.nospam@rullet.leidenuniv.nl (TB) wrote: > W95 (up to 4.00.1**** anyway) is just as USB-impaired as OS2. You mean W98. > Th. No, I meant what I said. W95 OSR2 does work with most USB devices better than OS/2. Next time, you might think a bit before you answer. "The bureaucratic mentality is the only constant in the universe." Dr. McCoy to Kirk / Star Trek IV:The Voyage Home --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Origin Line 1 Goes Here (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: charles.whitby@cwix.com 28-Oct-99 13:36:27 To: All 28-Oct-99 14:45:06 Subj: OS/2 V 2.1 and Y2K From: charles.whitby@cwix.com (Charles Whitby) I'm an OS/2 (half-OS?) newbie doing a project with some customers who still utilize OS/2 Ver 2.1 on some systems. Can 2.1 be made Y2K compliant (other then upgrading to V3 or 4)? Any info is greatly appreciated. Thanks (Pardon the half-OS remark. I couldn't resist....) --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Prodigy Internet http://www.prodigy.com (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: blackdeath@13softhome.net 28-Oct-99 14:38:16 To: All 28-Oct-99 14:45:06 Subj: Re: Networking 2 home computers... From: blackdeath@13softhome.net (Stewart Honsberger) On Thu, 28 Oct 1999 06:56:06 -0400, Jerry McBride wrote: >Anyone here done a 2 computer network with fibre? I'm saving up the computer >budget money to do just that and I'm interested in anything you have to comment >on this subject. You can do it with a Twisted Pair CAT-5 cable. Don't confuse twisted pair with regular CAT-5, though. Twisted pair is used to directly connect two computers, while normal CAT-5 has to go through a hub. Get two (10 or 100)MBPS NICs with an RJ45 connector, plug 'em into each of your computers, and put the twisted pair cable between them. Then just setup your LAN like you would with coax cable. A twisted pair cable (about 10') will run you somewhere in the area of $5 to $10. OTOH - if you're thinking of adding more computers later, it might be worth your while to get a 5 port hub. Just get two pieces of normal CAT-5 cable and connect them to the hub (you'll have to RTFM for the hub). -- Stewart Honsberger (AKA Blackdeath) @ http://sprk.com/blackdeath/ blackdeath@13softhome.net (Remove 'thirteen' to reply privately) Humming along under SuSE Linux 6.0 / OS/2 Warp 4 --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: http://sprk.com/blackdeath/ (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: cb@lim.nl 28-Oct-99 16:38:16 To: All 28-Oct-99 14:45:06 Subj: Re: Lexmark Optra 40 From: Colin Brace In <3817aee8_1@news3.prserv.net>, on 10/28/99 at 02:03 AM, ecmille@ibm.net (Ted Miller) said: > I have just acquired one of these printers . I have seen these advertised rather cheaply at places like firesale.com. May I ask where you bought yours from and how much you paid? -- Colin Brace Amsterdam http://www.lim.nl --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: A2000 Kabeltelevisie en Telecommunicatie (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: blackdeath@13softhome.net 28-Oct-99 14:39:19 To: All 28-Oct-99 14:45:06 Subj: Re: Warp 4 - How do you change the computer name? From: blackdeath@13softhome.net (Stewart Honsberger) On Thu, 28 Oct 1999 10:28:43 -0400, Don Thimsen wrote: >When Warp 4 installs, a generated name is assigned >to the machine (i.e., CLIENT012). Is there a way to change this >name??? Change the HOSTNAME env. variable in your config.sys. Mine reads; SET HOSTNAME=BLACKDEATH -- Stewart Honsberger (AKA Blackdeath) @ http://sprk.com/blackdeath/ blackdeath@13softhome.net (Remove 'thirteen' to reply privately) Humming along under SuSE Linux 6.0 / OS/2 Warp 4 --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: http://sprk.com/blackdeath/ (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: *****@ix.netcom.com 28-Oct-99 11:04:06 To: All 28-Oct-99 14:45:06 Subj: Re: Networking 2 home computers... From: "Spotillius Maximus aka \"Spot\"" <*****@ix.netcom.com> > You can do it with a Twisted Pair CAT-5 cable. Don't confuse twisted pair > with regular CAT-5, though. Twisted pair is used to directly connect two > computers, while normal CAT-5 has to go through a hub. > CAT-5 is twisted pair. What you are thinking of is called a cross-over cable for connecting two computers without a hub. If you use a hub, the cable is a straight through cable. Both are made from CAT-5 cable, or should be. --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: MindSpring Enterprises (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: fBeythien@gmx.de 27-Oct-99 19:53:05 To: All 28-Oct-99 14:45:06 Subj: Re: Help with helps From: fBeythien@gmx.de (Frank Beythien) On Wed, 27 Oct 1999 17:19:29, lifedata@xxvol.com wrote: > Where on my system can I find help for working with DSK files? I have tried at > the command line "help dsk" and "help loaddskf" (among other things). If IBM is > so determined to keep using floppy technology there must be info about it > somewhere. Enter loaddskf without any options. the same with loadram2 / saveram2. These are nice little commandline utilities, which made handling files on diskettes easier and quicker for me. As these are tools developed by IBMers on their owntime, IIRC, they are not very well documented. But I've become familiar with it over the years.. For bootos2 I made a small .cmd file which contains only the bootos2 call with the correct options I need. So I can just regenerate the diskettes / partition when new versions arrive ... as 9.25 did a few days ago. CU/2 Frank -- Frank Beythien fBeythien@gmx.de --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Prima e.V. - Dortmund - Germany (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: tjb@starbase.neosoft.com 28-Oct-99 15:19:23 To: All 28-Oct-99 14:45:06 Subj: Re: My big mouth. From: tjb@starbase.neosoft.com (Timothy J. Bogart) In article <439566494111044528050990@unknown.host>, Michael W. Cocke wrote: >On Wed, 27 Oct 1999 23:16:08 -0400, lifedata@xxvol.com wrote: > >>Apparently my big mouth has had a good effect in at least one case. >> >>I just got a note from http://computergeek.com that they have fixed their sales >>system so non-M$ Explorer browsers can use it. I went there and, surely enough, >>I was able to put merchandise into my shopping cart. >> >>Unfortunately there is still a hang up in the checkout, but I have informed them >>of that and expect it will be fixed. >> >>Interestingly, this is the only place I have been able to find a mouse I have >>found to be highly servicable. >> >>Jim L >>Remove XX from address to Email >>Crooks and kooks will get guns regardless of laws. >> >> > >I decided to take a look, and all I got at that url was a screen saying >to check back in august. (August!?) > >Mike- > > >======================================================================== >Member: DNRC Watcher: Babylon 5 User: OS/2 Warp > > If you're going to do something, do something worth doing. >------------------------------------------------------------------------ Color me confused. Netscape on 98, NT, Linux works fine.... BTW, have dropped several dollars with these folks.... --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: NeoSoft, Inc. +1 713 968 5800 (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: blackdeath@13softhome.net 28-Oct-99 15:44:12 To: All 28-Oct-99 14:45:06 Subj: Re: Networking 2 home computers... From: blackdeath@13softhome.net (Stewart Honsberger) On Thu, 28 Oct 1999 11:04:12 -0400, Spotillius Maximus aka \"Spot\" wrote: >> You can do it with a Twisted Pair CAT-5 cable. Don't confuse twisted pair >> with regular CAT-5, though. Twisted pair is used to directly connect two >> computers, while normal CAT-5 has to go through a hub. > >CAT-5 is twisted pair. What you are thinking of is called a cross-over >cable for connecting two computers without a hub. If you use a hub, the >cable is a straight through cable. Both are made from CAT-5 cable, or should >be. {sigh} You're right. My bad.. Been doing accounting work these last couple of days, not computer work. Too many numbers stuck in my head to remember the important stuff :> It also doesn't reflect well on me since I've got a cross-over cable in my pile'o'parts - still packaged and labeled :/ -- Stewart Honsberger (AKA Blackdeath) @ http://sprk.com/blackdeath/ blackdeath@13softhome.net (Remove 'thirteen' to reply privately) Humming along under SuSE Linux 6.0 / OS/2 Warp 4 --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: http://sprk.com/blackdeath/ (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: lsunley@mb.sympatico.ca 28-Oct-99 14:09:22 To: All 28-Oct-99 14:45:07 Subj: Re: MSWinNT 4 share causes TRAP 000d? From: lsunley@mb.sympatico.ca (Lorne Sunley) On Thu, 28 Oct 1999 03:35:45, frank_mckenney@mindspring.com (Frank McKenney) wrote: > > Is there any reason why sharing a drive (okay, partition) on a MSWinNT 4 > box should cause my OS/2 system (Warp 4, XR_M012) to trap? > > For the past four weeks I've had an HP Pentium-III as a third box on my > internal network. Until recently my use of the network connection had > been sporadic, since my initial development effort has been done under > OS/2. Now that I'm installing code on the NT box and testing it, I've > made its E: partition (2 Gb) accessible and am NET USEing it from OS/2. > > Unfortunately, after almost eight _months_ without a trap, OS/2 has died > horribly four times in the past two weeks. In all cases I was > performing operations on files (opening, creating, deleting, etc.) on > the NT shared partition at either a DOS or an OS/2 command prompt. > > Any suggestions on what might be causing this to happen (and how I might > avoid it in the future) would be appreciated. If it makes any > difference (one would't think it would) the other box on the LAN is a > 486DX4-100 system running S.u.S.E Linux v5.3. > > Here are the critical elements extracted from the first standalone dump > diskette (DUMPDATA.001). This approach beats the H*ll out of copying > that silly stuff from the screen, and it provides more information: the > "Exception in IFNET$" line never made it to the screen. > > -- > ##0168:fff4832e - 000e:c32e , 05860526 > 9084 9084 > > Exception in device driver: IFNET$ > > TRAP 000d ERRCD=0000 ERACC=**** ERLIM=******** > EAX=ffe18588 EBX=fff06a4c ECX=00000003 EDX=000025c0 > ESI=fff08d74 EDI=fdf64f84 EBP=00001fc2 FLG=00012012 > CS:EIP=25f0:00005963 CSACC=009b CSLIM=0000821b > SS:ESP=00e8:00001fae SSACC=0093 SSLIM=00001fff > DS=25e8 DSACC=0093 DSLIM=00003381 CR0=8001001b > ES=25e8 ESACC=0093 ESLIM=00003381 CR2=00029000 > FS=2360 FSACC=1093 FSLIM=0000ffff > GS=0000 GSACC=**** GSLIM=******** > -- > Internal revision 9.036, 99/07/20 There was a problem with some versions of MPTS that would trap when both TCP/IP and NETBIOS were bound to the same NIC. What version of MPTS and stack fixes are you running? Lorne Sunley --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: MBnet Networking Inc. (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: lsunley@mb.sympatico.ca 28-Oct-99 14:15:11 To: All 28-Oct-99 14:45:07 Subj: Re: OS/2 V 2.1 and Y2K From: lsunley@mb.sympatico.ca (Lorne Sunley) On Thu, 28 Oct 1999 13:36:55, charles.whitby@cwix.com (Charles Whitby) wrote: > I'm an OS/2 (half-OS?) newbie doing a project with some customers who still > utilize OS/2 Ver 2.1 on some systems. > > Can 2.1 be made Y2K compliant (other then upgrading to V3 or 4)? > > Any info is greatly appreciated. > > Thanks > > (Pardon the half-OS remark. I couldn't resist....) OS/2 version 2.1 cannot be made Y2K compliant. IBM had to have a way of convincing all the ATM manufacturers that they should upgrade the OS in their machines :-). You should upgrade to Warp 4 as Warp 3 is now out of service (as of a couple of months back?). The latest fixpack for Warp 3 is fixpack 40. Warp 4 will need at least fixpack 5 or 6 to be Y2K and the latest FP level is 12. PS - half-OS, I wonder if it could be used as a marketing ploy.......? Lorne Sunley --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: MBnet Networking Inc. (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: rodsmith@adsl-151-203-46-57.bell... 28-Oct-99 14:19:24 To: All 28-Oct-99 14:45:07 Subj: Re: Lexmark Optra 40 Message sender: rodsmith@adsl-151-203-46-57.bellatlantic.net From: rodsmith@adsl-151-203-46-57.bellatlantic.net (Rod Smith) [Posted and mailed] In article <3817aee8_1@news3.prserv.net>, ecmille@ibm.net (Ted Miller) writes: > > I have noticed that there is a considerable delay between the the time a > print job is sent to the spooler and the printer actually starts printing. > E.G. I just printed a 3.5 x 5.0 inch jpg file through PMview and the printer > spent about 4 minutes in processing mode before the image was printed. Is this > normal performance for a postscript based printer? It's normal for the printer to take some time processing the image. Whether 4 minutes for a bitmap is normal is a question I can't answer. It really depends on a lot of things, such as the speed of the CPU in the printer, the nature of the PostScript file produced by OS/2, etc. > Would adding more memory to > the base 4 megs speed up the processing? Possibly. I can't guarantee it. 4MB is pretty slim for a color PostScript printer, though. If nothing else, increasing the RAM is likely to increase the number of files you can print -- that is, with only 4MB, sooner or later you'll likely run into a file that the printer can't print because it has insufficient RAM. > Is there anything else one can do to > speed up the processing or is this just a characteristic of postscript > printers? Using a different driver or different program to produce the output might help. There might also be driver options that would improve matters. > Also does anyone have an idea of how to use this printer in PCL5 emulation > mode. The installation process only installed the postscript driver. Do I have > to install a different driver to use PCL5 mode? I Looked on the insallation CD > and although there were PCL5 drivers the Optra 40 was not listed in them. How > does PCL5 differ from Postscript? Is there an advantage to use one over the > other? Am I even asking the right or pertinent questions in regards to the > above paragraph? PostScript is a page description language (PDL) created by Adobe in the 1980s that supported, even then, some pretty advanced features. PCL is a PDL developed by Hewlett-Packard in the 1980s. At its inception, PCL was pretty weak compared to PostScript -- PCL was more like the Escape-code languages of dot-matrix printers, really. Over time, both languages improved, but PCL has improved more than PostScript, so they're now closer to being similar in power, although PostScript probably still has the edge in most respects. Because they're completely different and unrelated languages, you do need a different driver to use PCL mode. I'm not familiar with the Optra 40 per se, but most modern printers that support both modes will auto-detect which one to use, so you can just install a PCL 5 driver and print. It's best if the driver you install is specific to the printer, though, so that it can use any of the printer's unique features, and so it knows about the printer's margin capabilities and whatnot. -- Rod Smith smithrod@bellatlantic.net http://members.bellatlantic.net/~smithrod Author of _Special Edition Using Corel WordPerfect 8 for Linux_, from Que --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Origin Line 1 Goes Here (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: don@DTSsoftware.com 28-Oct-99 10:28:21 To: All 28-Oct-99 14:45:07 Subj: Warp 4 - How do you change the computer name? From: "Don Thimsen" When Warp 4 installs, a generated name is assigned to the machine (i.e., CLIENT012). Is there a way to change this name??? Thanks, Don --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Origin Line 1 Goes Here (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: piquant00@uswestmail.net 28-Oct-99 14:28:05 To: All 28-Oct-99 14:45:07 Subj: Re: OS/2 V 2.1 and Y2K From: piquant00@uswestmail.net (Annie K.) On Thu, 28 Oct 1999 13:36:55, charles.whitby@cwix.com (Charles Whitby) wrote: :Can 2.1 be made Y2K compliant (other then upgrading to V3 or 4)? No. -- Klaatu barada nikto --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Team OS/2 (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: lifedata@xxvol.com 28-Oct-99 10:33:16 To: All 28-Oct-99 14:45:07 Subj: Re: My big mouth. From: lifedata@xxvol.com Michael W. Cocke said: >>I just got a note from http://computergeek.com that they have fixed their sales >I decided to take a look, and all I got at that url was a screen saying to >check back in august. (August!?) I'm terribly sorry about that. My mistake. There should be an "s" on GEEK. The URL is: http://computergeeks.com/ Jim L Remove XX from address to Email Crooks and kooks will get guns regardless of laws. --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: bCandid - Powering the world's discussions - http (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: lifedata@xxvol.com 28-Oct-99 10:23:28 To: All 28-Oct-99 14:45:07 Subj: Re: Help with helps From: lifedata@xxvol.com "Wayne Bickell" said: >Go to Hobbes and do a search for DS4PM it makes working with >these disk images painless. Thanks. I hope you're right. I haven't fathomed, yet, why anyone would want to put a file inside dsk, then that inside a zip, then unzip it, then un-dsk it to a floppy then move it from the floppy back again onto the hard drive. Its a whole lot of silly fooling around if you ask me. Jim L Remove XX from address to Email Crooks and kooks will get guns regardless of laws. --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: bCandid - Powering the world's discussions - http (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: lifedata@xxvol.com 28-Oct-99 10:20:19 To: All 28-Oct-99 14:45:07 Subj: Re: Bootos2 options From: lifedata@xxvol.com cbzh@my-deja.com said: >I took an old english dictionary and there it was explained that this has >something to do with soldiers marching in a row etc.... I really had a hard >time to find out what the word means just guessing and taking the context into >account - and there was still no internet where I could have asked questions >:-)) >My point is: Some "very easy" things definitely ARE not easy for >everybody... My goodness! To me a file is something you smooth metal with! When switching from one OS to another a VERY long time ago, I had trouble distinguishing file from record. Jim L Remove XX from address to Email Crooks and kooks will get guns regardless of laws. --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: bCandid - Powering the world's discussions - http (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: djohnson@isomedia.com 28-Oct-99 09:18:14 To: All 28-Oct-99 16:44:09 Subj: Re: New OS/2 device driver development From: "David T. Johnson" Bob Germer wrote: > > On <3816FBEE.F94D195B@isomedia.com>, on 10/27/99 at 09:19 AM, > "David T. Johnson" said: > > > Well, the driver situation isn't great but, IMO, it isn't terrible > > either. The single biggest driver issue right now for OS/2 is getting > > motherboard BIOSs that will allow OS/2 to find more than 64 MB of DRAM. > > Many of the BIOS versions have an OS/2 memory > 64MB option but it often > > does not work properly. And yes, this isn't really a 'driver' issue but > > it is important. > > Well, I don't know why you have such problems. I have >64 Megs on at least > 2 dozen different motherboards either in my own shop or on clients' > machines. We have no-name boards, Intel, Tyan, ASUS, Premio, and other > motherboards in the mix, all of which recognize more than 64 Megs. > Some of the newest boards with AMI and Award BIOSs have recently been having problems with this. Hopefully, the BIOS vendors will fix this soon. --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: rri0189@attglobal.net 28-Oct-99 13:14:28 To: All 28-Oct-99 16:44:09 Subj: Re: Lexmark Optra 40 From: "John W. Kennedy" Ted Miller wrote: Sometimes PostScript is better, sometimes PCL is better. Lexmark provides drivers for both. The two are so utterly different that if there's a bug in one, it probably won't affect the other, which is nice, too. -- -John W. Kennedy -rri0189@ibm.net Compact is becoming contract Man only earns and pays. -- Charles Williams --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Global Network Services - Remote Access Mail & Ne (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: kimwaicSpamGoToGarbage@deltanet.com 28-Oct-99 10:49:22 To: All 28-Oct-99 16:44:09 Subj: Re: New OS/2 device driver development From: "Kim Cheung" On 28 Oct 1999 13:34:47 GMT, Jim Nuytens wrote: >Next time, you might think a bit before you answer. Please, please, please. Not this kind of talk again. Just when these newsgroups are now rid of Tim Martin and Brad Wardell the Great, and most of the MVPs, let's bring some senity back to our discussion of OS/2. --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: TouchVoice Corporation (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: kahnt@adan.kingston.net 28-Oct-99 13:52:02 To: All 28-Oct-99 16:44:09 Subj: Re: MS .asf files on Linux? From: "Mark L. Kahnt" Stewart Honsberger wrote: > > On Wed, 27 Oct 1999 21:47:22 +0000, Erik de Castro Lopo wrote: > >Until Micros~1 releases a Linux ASF player (about 1 second before hell > >freezes over) or someone reverse engineers ASF you're not going to be > >able to play that file on Linux. > > That's sortof obvious. :/ > > I've been looking for the same thing - although I'll also accept an OS/2 > program to do same (hence the additional newsgroup). > > -- > Stewart Honsberger (AKA Blackdeath) @ http://sprk.com/blackdeath/ > blackdeath@13softhome.net (Remove 'thirteen' to reply privately) > Humming along under SuSE Linux 6.0 / OS/2 Warp 4 Shhhh, but NetShow (which was the previous ASF player) was available for Linux for some time - I haven't touched it for quite some time because all it ever did was shriek. In fact, that is all I've gotten from that or Windows Media Player on any platform, try as I might to sort it out. Add in that they do not have a release that will install on Windows NT 3.51 (the 32 bit version requires NT 4 and some service pack, the 16 bit version sees NT and tells you to use the 32 bit version. I installed the 16 bit release under OS/2 and Win-OS2 and use that under NT 3.51 - still all I get is the shriek... -- ============================================================ To respond via e-mail - remove the "go-away-spammers" portion of the Reply to: value. Mark L. Kahnt, C.P. Box 1263, Kingston, Ontario K7L 4Y8 Voix: (613) 531-8767 Cellulaire: (613) 539-0935 Telecopieur: (613) 531-8684 Email: kahnt@adan.kingston.net References to "spam" in the above post refer to any of numerous abuse of the Internet to repeatedly place off-topic messages in inappropriate or unauthorised locations. The term should in no way be construed as involving the products of Hormel Foods Corporation. 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Kahnt New Markets Consulting (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: htravis@ibm.net 28-Oct-99 14:02:14 To: All 28-Oct-99 16:44:09 Subj: Re: Lexmark Optra 40 From: htravis@ibm.net (Harry Travis) In <38185feb$1$po$mr2ice@news.a2000.nl>, on 10/28/99 at 04:38 PM, Colin Brace said: >In <3817aee8_1@news3.prserv.net>, on 10/28/99 > at 02:03 AM, ecmille@ibm.net (Ted Miller) said: >> I have just acquired one of these printers . >I have seen these advertised rather cheaply at places like >firesale.com. May I ask where you bought yours from and how much you >paid? www.buysurplus.com: $220 (US) shipping included until 1/1/2000 $180 at another US firm + shipping. -- ----------------------------------------------------------- htravis@ibm.net (Harry Travis) DemostiX ----------------------------------------------------------- --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Global Network Services - Remote Access Mail & Ne (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: jack@notsd.com 28-Oct-99 18:46:16 To: All 28-Oct-99 16:44:09 Subj: Re: MS .asf files on Linux? From: Jack Madison "Mark L. Kahnt" wrote: > <<<---SNIP--->>> > Shhhh, but NetShow (which was the previous ASF player) was available for > Linux for some time - I haven't touched it for quite some time because > all it ever did was shriek. In fact, that is all I've gotten from that > or Windows Media Player on any platform, try as I might to sort it out. > Add in that they do not have a release that will install on Windows NT > 3.51 (the 32 bit version requires NT 4 and some service pack, the 16 bit > version sees NT and tells you to use the 32 bit version. I installed the > 16 bit release under OS/2 and Win-OS2 and use that under NT 3.51 - still > all I get is the shriek... > -- > <<<---SNIP--->>> I'd be happy to give the old NetShow for linux a try if I could find it... M$ web site doesn't have it any longer (I never saw it in the first place), and their promise to support unix seems half-hearted. I have even installed Win98 on a second drive, but Win98 chokes on both my network card (which I can live without), and my Sound card (Creative Labs AudioPCI). I was actually quite surprised when Win98 (including creative labs Win98 drivers) failed to use my soundcard after linux/sndconfig just plain worked.. Any other thoughts, suggestions, or pointers to the old NetShow for Linux program before I just give up for now? --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Origin Line 1 Goes Here (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: mguyear@sewanee.edu 28-Oct-99 14:08:13 To: All 28-Oct-99 16:44:09 Subj: Re: Networking 2 home computers... From: "Michael Guyear" Way over priced. I did this once in the lab just for fun, only 10 MBS though. It's no faster than 10MB TP (of course) and way more expensive for the fiber interfaces. Only reason I could see for this is in long distance runs or very noisy environments. > Anyone here done a 2 computer network with fibre? I'm saving up the computer > budget money to do just that and I'm interested in anything you have to comment > on this subject. --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Origin Line 1 Goes Here (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: kapeka@wild-ki.netzservice.de 28-Oct-99 20:07:29 To: All 28-Oct-99 16:44:09 Subj: Re: WSeB Client sorta news From: kapeka@wild-ki.netzservice.de (K.-P. Kirchdoerfer) On Thu, 28 Oct 1999 06:52:20 -0400, Jerry McBride wrote: >In article <3817AF57.C070A15F@attglobal.net>, >Scott wrote: >>I was over on Stardocks newsgroup and saw this, it was interesting (if >>not a little confusing as to what it means)... enjoy... >> >>> >>> There IS a service offering from IBM for installation and support of >>> an official Aurora Client to be officially announced within the next >>> couple of days. >>> > >--- snip --- > >It simply means that a new OS/2 client will be offered sometime in the next >couple of months. It' won't be on a CD that you can orderup and have mailed to >your address. It'll be provided as part of a service, where an IBM employee >comes to your place of business and installs the thing... > >You "are" a business customer, aren't you??? :') IMHO it might be something like a Redbook how to install (about a thousands clients at a time) with CID-Scripts from the WSEB-CD's - IF you have bought the expensive server and IF you'll pay the fee. Don't expect to get someone from IBM doing your work :) The main thing in this announcment seems to be, that there definitely will be a new client, but NOT, (NO, NEVER!!) for SOHO-users. Never considered myself as SOHO, I'm confident, that this new client might force myself to update the six-year-old WarpConnect installation :) kp --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Origin Line 1 Goes Here (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: frank_mckenney@mindspring.com 28-Oct-99 19:29:02 To: All 28-Oct-99 16:44:09 Subj: Re: MSWinNT 4 share causes TRAP 000d? From: frank_mckenney@mindspring.com (Frank McKenney) In , lsunley@mb.sympatico.ca (Lorne Sunley) writes: >On Thu, 28 Oct 1999 03:35:45, frank_mckenney@mindspring.com (Frank >McKenney) wrote: > >> >> Is there any reason why sharing a drive (okay, partition) on a MSWinNT 4 >> box should cause my OS/2 system (Warp 4, XR_M012) to trap? >> >> For the past four weeks I've had an HP Pentium-III as a third box on my >> internal network. Until recently my use of the network connection had >> been sporadic, since my initial development effort has been done under >> OS/2. Now that I'm installing code on the NT box and testing it, I've >> made its E: partition (2 Gb) accessible and am NET USEing it from OS/2. >> >> Unfortunately, after almost eight _months_ without a trap, OS/2 has died >> horribly four times in the past two weeks. In all cases I was >> performing operations on files (opening, creating, deleting, etc.) on >> the NT shared partition at either a DOS or an OS/2 command prompt. >> >> Any suggestions on what might be causing this to happen (and how I might >> avoid it in the future) would be appreciated. If it makes any >> difference (one would't think it would) the other box on the LAN is a >> 486DX4-100 system running S.u.S.E Linux v5.3. >> >> Here are the critical elements extracted from the first standalone dump >> diskette (DUMPDATA.001). This approach beats the H*ll out of copying >> that silly stuff from the screen, and it provides more information: the >> "Exception in IFNET$" line never made it to the screen. >> >> -- >> ##0168:fff4832e - 000e:c32e , 05860526 >> 9084 9084 >> >> Exception in device driver: IFNET$ >> >> TRAP 000d ERRCD=0000 ERACC=**** ERLIM=******** >> EAX=ffe18588 EBX=fff06a4c ECX=00000003 EDX=000025c0 >> ESI=fff08d74 EDI=fdf64f84 EBP=00001fc2 FLG=00012012 >> CS:EIP=25f0:00005963 CSACC=009b CSLIM=0000821b >> SS:ESP=00e8:00001fae SSACC=0093 SSLIM=00001fff >> DS=25e8 DSACC=0093 DSLIM=00003381 CR0=8001001b >> ES=25e8 ESACC=0093 ESLIM=00003381 CR2=00029000 >> FS=2360 FSACC=1093 FSLIM=0000ffff >> GS=0000 GSACC=**** GSLIM=******** >> -- >> Internal revision 9.036, 99/07/20 > >There was a problem with some versions of MPTS >that would trap when both TCP/IP and NETBIOS >were bound to the same NIC. > >What version of MPTS and stack fixes are you running? Lorne, Thank you for an incredibly quick response. Here are selected portions of my SYSLEVEL output, if you need any other information please feel free to ask: -- C:\IBMCOM\SYSLEVEL.TRP IBM OS/2 LAN Adapter and Protocol Support Version 5.10 Component ID 5639A5700 Current CSD level: WR08400 Prior CSD level: WR08210 C:\IBMINST\SYSLEVEL.WCB OS/2 Warp Networking Services Installation Version 4.00 Component ID 5939a9200 Current CSD level: IP08400 Prior CSD level: IP08400 C:\IBMLAN\SYSLEVEL.PER IBM Peer for OS/2 Version 4.00 Component ID 5639A6000 Current CSD level: IP08400 Prior CSD level: IP02001 C:\IBMLAN\SYSLEVEL.REQ IBM OS/2 LAN Requester Version 5.04 Component ID 5639A6000 Current CSD level: IP08406 Prior CSD level: IP08400 C:\MPTN\SYSLEVEL.DHC IBM OS/2 DynamicHostConfiguration Protocol Services Version 4.00 Component ID 562290901 Current CSD level: WR08400 Prior CSD level: WR08210 C:\MPTN\SYSLEVEL.MPT IBM OS/2 TCP/IP Stack Version 5.10 Component ID 5639B1700 Current CSD level: WR08400 Prior CSD level: WR08210 C:\OS2\INSTALL\SYSLEVEL.FPK OS/2 Warp 4 Service Level Version 1.00 Component ID 566933010 Type Fixpak Current CSD level: XR0M012 Prior CSD level: XR0M012 C:\OS2\INSTALL\SYSLEVEL.OS2 IBM OS/2 Base Operating System Version 4.00 Component ID 5639A6100 Type 0C Current CSD level: XR0M012 Prior CSD level: XR04000 C:\OS2\INSTALL\SYSLEVEL.BDD IBM OS/2 Base Device Drivers Version 4.00 Component ID 5639A6100 Type 0C Current CSD level: XR0D001 Prior CSD level: XR04000 C:\TCPIP\BIN\SYSLEVEL.DBX IBM OS/2 TCPIP DOS Windows Version 4.00 Component ID 5639A6500 Current CSD level: UN00000 Prior CSD level: UN00000 C:\TCPIP\BIN\SYSLEVEL.IAK IBM Internet Connection for Warp Version 4.00 Component ID 5639A6400 Current CSD level: UN00000 Prior CSD level: UN00000 C:\TCPIP\BIN\SYSLEVEL.TCP IBM TCP/IP for Warp Version 4.00 Component ID 5639A6600 Current CSD level: UN00000 Prior CSD level: UN00000 -- Frank McKenney, McKenney Associates Richmond, Virginia / (804) 320-4887 E-mail: frank_mckenney@mindspring.com --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: McKenney Associates (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: rde@tavi.co.uk 28-Oct-99 20:12:15 To: All 28-Oct-99 16:44:09 Subj: Re: Warp 4 - How do you change the computer name? From: rde@tavi.co.uk (Bob Eager) On Thu, 28 Oct 1999 14:39:39, blackdeath@13softhome.net (Stewart Honsberger) wrote: > On Thu, 28 Oct 1999 10:28:43 -0400, Don Thimsen wrote: > >When Warp 4 installs, a generated name is assigned > >to the machine (i.e., CLIENT012). Is there a way to change this > >name??? > > Change the HOSTNAME env. variable in your config.sys. > > Mine reads; > > SET HOSTNAME=BLACKDEATH Not quite. That one is the TCP/IP hostname, and doesn't get assigned automatically. I suspect he wanted the OTHER one - used by Peer. Edit \IBMLAN\IBMLAN.INI; change the COMPUTERNAME= line (quite a long way down; line 172 on mine) -- Bob Eager rde at tavi.co.uk PC Server 325; PS/2s 8595*3, 9595*3 (2*P60 + P90), 8535, 8570, 9556*2, 8580*6, 8557*2, 8550, 9577, 8530, P70, PC/AT.. --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Tavi Systems (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: lsunley@mb.sympatico.ca 28-Oct-99 20:36:03 To: All 28-Oct-99 19:56:01 Subj: Re: MSWinNT 4 share causes TRAP 000d? From: lsunley@mb.sympatico.ca (Lorne Sunley) On Thu, 28 Oct 1999 19:29:04, frank_mckenney@mindspring.com (Frank McKenney) wrote: > In , lsunley@mb.sympatico.ca (Lorne Sunley) writes: > >On Thu, 28 Oct 1999 03:35:45, frank_mckenney@mindspring.com (Frank > >McKenney) wrote: > > > >> > >> Is there any reason why sharing a drive (okay, partition) on a MSWinNT 4 > >> box should cause my OS/2 system (Warp 4, XR_M012) to trap? > >> > >> For the past four weeks I've had an HP Pentium-III as a third box on my > >> internal network. Until recently my use of the network connection had > >> been sporadic, since my initial development effort has been done under > >> OS/2. Now that I'm installing code on the NT box and testing it, I've > >> made its E: partition (2 Gb) accessible and am NET USEing it from OS/2. > >> > >> Unfortunately, after almost eight _months_ without a trap, OS/2 has died > >> horribly four times in the past two weeks. In all cases I was > >> performing operations on files (opening, creating, deleting, etc.) on > >> the NT shared partition at either a DOS or an OS/2 command prompt. > >> > >> Any suggestions on what might be causing this to happen (and how I might > >> avoid it in the future) would be appreciated. If it makes any > >> difference (one would't think it would) the other box on the LAN is a > >> 486DX4-100 system running S.u.S.E Linux v5.3. > >> > >> Here are the critical elements extracted from the first standalone dump > >> diskette (DUMPDATA.001). This approach beats the H*ll out of copying > >> that silly stuff from the screen, and it provides more information: the > >> "Exception in IFNET$" line never made it to the screen. > >> > >> -- > >> ##0168:fff4832e - 000e:c32e , 05860526 > >> 9084 9084 > >> > >> Exception in device driver: IFNET$ > >> > >> TRAP 000d ERRCD=0000 ERACC=**** ERLIM=******** > >> EAX=ffe18588 EBX=fff06a4c ECX=00000003 EDX=000025c0 > >> ESI=fff08d74 EDI=fdf64f84 EBP=00001fc2 FLG=00012012 > >> CS:EIP=25f0:00005963 CSACC=009b CSLIM=0000821b > >> SS:ESP=00e8:00001fae SSACC=0093 SSLIM=00001fff > >> DS=25e8 DSACC=0093 DSLIM=00003381 CR0=8001001b > >> ES=25e8 ESACC=0093 ESLIM=00003381 CR2=00029000 > >> FS=2360 FSACC=1093 FSLIM=0000ffff > >> GS=0000 GSACC=**** GSLIM=******** > >> -- > >> Internal revision 9.036, 99/07/20 > > > >There was a problem with some versions of MPTS > >that would trap when both TCP/IP and NETBIOS > >were bound to the same NIC. > > > >What version of MPTS and stack fixes are you running? > > Lorne, > > Thank you for an incredibly quick response. Here are selected portions > of my SYSLEVEL output, if you need any other information please feel > free to ask: > From the syslevel output you seem to running the base install for MPTS and "file and print client" Try updating to one of the latest versions of MPTS WR8423 (?) for the 16 bit stack. You could also try WR8610 which gives you the newer 32 bit stack. The Peer software is also at the base level so you might try IP8407 for peer services (There are newer ones but they cause a problem with re-starting Peer shares). Lorne Sunley --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: MBnet Networking Inc. (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: l_luciano@da.mob 28-Oct-99 22:37:11 To: All 29-Oct-99 11:30:18 Subj: SIO and PCI I/O card From: l_luciano@da.mob (Stan Goodman) I have available a 2-port PCI I/O card which requires initialization/configuration at boot. It comes with a DOS executable that does this, which amounts to its choosing an IRQ line and the port addresses of the UARTs. This program would have to be run in STARTUP.CMD or in the Startup folder, i.e. after SIO (or COM, for that matter) has set up serial ports in CONFIG.SYS. Given that I would know beforehand what IRQ would be chosen, and that I have specified the UART addresses, is this sequence legal? Or would SIO have to have the ports already configured before the SIO line in CONFIG.SYS -- which I do not see a way to accomplish? ------------- Stan Goodman Qiryat Tiv'on Israel Spammers are getting smarter; email sent to l_luciano@da.mob will not reach me. Sorry. Send E-mail to: domain: hashkedim dot com, username: stan.  --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Verio (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: Valheru@guesswhere.com 28-Oct-99 19:02:24 To: All 29-Oct-99 11:30:18 Subj: Re: Wesb Boot From: "Valheru" FYI, I moved to Florida from Canada and some disks got broken during the move so please don't make assumptions you know nothing about. I did not know that this wasn't a binary group, sorry for asking for files. --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Global Network Services - Remote Access Mail & Ne (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: mcbrides@erols.com 28-Oct-99 18:16:21 To: All 29-Oct-99 11:30:18 Subj: Re: Networking 2 home computers... From: mcbrides@erols.com (Jerry McBride) In article <3818adcd.0@news.sewanee.edu>, "Michael Guyear" wrote: >Way over priced. I did this once in the lab just for fun, only 10 MBS >though. It's no faster than 10MB TP (of course) and way more expensive for >the fiber interfaces. Only reason I could see for this is in long distance >runs or very noisy environments. > Yes, noise is a concern as we run a couple of welders in the work place... :') But no faster than 10baseT? > >> Anyone here done a 2 computer network with fibre? I'm saving up the >computer >> budget money to do just that and I'm interested in anything you have to >comment >> on this subject. > > > -- ******************************************************************************* * Sometimes, the BEST things in life really ARE free... * * Get a FREE copy of NetRexx 1.151 for your next java project at: * * * * GET IT NOW! WHILE IT'S STILL FREE! * * * * http://www2.hursley.ibm.com/netrexx * ******************************************************************************* /----------------------------------------\ | From the desktop of: Jerome D. McBride | | mcbrides@erols.com | \----------------------------------------/ -- --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: TEAM-NETREXX (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: Valheru@guesswhere.com 28-Oct-99 19:00:26 To: All 29-Oct-99 11:30:18 Subj: Disks From: "Valheru" FYI, I moved to Florida from Canada and some disks got broken during the move so please don't make assumptions you know nothing about. I did not know that this wasn't a binary group, sorry for asking for files. --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Global Network Services - Remote Access Mail & Ne (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: jstotz@canoemail.com 28-Oct-99 16:15:08 To: All 29-Oct-99 11:30:18 Subj: System crash From: James Has anybody had this happen. I had a big file and OS/2 was swapping like crazy. With the application shut down, I started Comm/2 and soon after the system froze. I CADed and the system started to close down the hard drive, but then everything frozeup, and all I could do was to shut everything off. Upon reboot, OS/2 was dead. I used the utility disks and chksdk, but Chkdsk erased a whole bunch of files (without prompting), none of them were core, but many were in the config.sys. I managed to get it up again, but a bunch of errors are appearing becuase of missing files. Although Gradd re-istalls, it gives and error (sys1808 I think), but installs the drivers anyway and it seems to work. A couple weeks ago, this happened on an adjacent machine, but I was unable to get it running again. I re-installed everything ... not fun. Both computers have fp12 and comm/2 4.6 on them. I think comm/2 was being used at the time on both (after the heavy swapping). Is this a residual error from the HPFS errors on fp11? Anybody have any hints on how to prevent this again? Cheers, James --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Simon Fraser University (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: frank_mckenney@mindspring.com 28-Oct-99 23:34:28 To: All 29-Oct-99 11:30:18 Subj: Re: MSWinNT 4 share causes TRAP 000d? From: frank_mckenney@mindspring.com (Frank McKenney) In , lsunley@mb.sympatico.ca (Lorne Sunley) writes: --snip-- >> >On Thu, 28 Oct 1999 03:35:45, frank_mckenney@mindspring.com (Frank >> >McKenney) wrote: >> >> Is there any reason why sharing a drive (okay, partition) on a MSWinNT 4 >> >> box should cause my OS/2 system (Warp 4, XR_M012) to trap? --snip-- > > >From the syslevel output you seem to running the base install >for MPTS and "file and print client" > >Try updating to one of the latest versions of MPTS WR8423 (?) >for the 16 bit stack. > >You could also try WR8610 which gives you the >newer 32 bit stack. > >The Peer software is also at the base level so you might >try IP8407 for peer services (There are newer ones but they >cause a problem with re-starting Peer shares). Lorne, Thanks. I'll try to do light duty stuff until this weekend, then start throwing FixPaks at the problem until it stops occurri... er, I mean I will execute a carefully planned program of selective software updates until the problem is circumvented (;-). I'll let you know what happens. Frank McKenney, McKenney Associates Richmond, Virginia / (804) 320-4887 E-mail: frank_mckenney@mindspring.com --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: McKenney Associates (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: jdc0014@InfoNET.st-johns.nf.ca 28-Oct-99 23:34:27 To: All 29-Oct-99 11:30:18 Subj: Re: Disks From: jdc0014@InfoNET.st-johns.nf.ca (John Hong) Valheru (Valheru@guesswhere.com) wrote: : FYI, I moved to Florida from Canada and some disks got broken during the : move so please don't make assumptions you know nothing about. I did not know : that this wasn't a binary group, sorry for asking for files. Did you ask IBM for a replacement? --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: St. John's InfoNET (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: ecmille@ibm.net 28-Oct-99 23:57:12 To: All 29-Oct-99 11:30:18 Subj: Re: Lexmark Optra 40 From: ecmille@ibm.net (Ted Miller) In message <8YYR3.743$6p1.54501@typhoon2.gnilink.net> - rodsmith@adsl-151-203-46-57.bellatlantic.net (Rod Smith) writes: :> :>[Posted and mailed] :> :>In article <3817aee8_1@news3.prserv.net>, :> ecmille@ibm.net (Ted Miller) writes: :>> :>> I have noticed that there is a considerable delay between the the time a :>> print job is sent to the spooler and the printer actually starts printing. :>> E.G. I just printed a 3.5 x 5.0 inch jpg file through PMview and the printer :>> spent about 4 minutes in processing mode before the image was printed. Is this :>> normal performance for a postscript based printer? :> :>It's normal for the printer to take some time processing the image. :>Whether 4 minutes for a bitmap is normal is a question I can't answer. It :>really depends on a lot of things, such as the speed of the CPU in the :>printer, the nature of the PostScript file produced by OS/2, etc. :> I was hoping someone who has actual experience with this printer would have responded so I could have a direct comparison. :>> Would adding more memory to :>> the base 4 megs speed up the processing? :> :>Possibly. I can't guarantee it. 4MB is pretty slim for a color :>PostScript printer, though. If nothing else, increasing the RAM is likely :>to increase the number of files you can print -- that is, with only 4MB, :>sooner or later you'll likely run into a file that the printer can't print :>because it has insufficient RAM. :> Am I to understand that if a print job produces postscript output that is greater than 4 megs per page the printer won't print? I picture a process something like this: -an order is given to print a file -The file is dumped to the spooler -The printer driver produces postscript output which is dumped to the printer's memory -when a page is recieved into printer memory, the printer begins to print Are my perceptions correct or am I way off base? :>Because they're completely different and unrelated languages, you do need :>a different driver to use PCL mode. I'm not familiar with the Optra 40 :>per se, but most modern printers that support both modes will auto-detect :>which one to use, so you can just install a PCL 5 driver and print. It's :>best if the driver you install is specific to the printer, though, so that :>it can use any of the printer's unique features, and so it knows about the :>printer's margin capabilities and whatnot. :> :>-- :>Rod Smith smithrod@bellatlantic.net :>http://members.bellatlantic.net/~smithrod :>Author of _Special Edition Using Corel WordPerfect 8 for Linux_, from Que I guess I will contact Lexmark and see what driver they suggest for PCL mode. Rod I want to thank you again for the time and effort you took to craft your excellent reply. Ted Miller --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Global Network Services - Remote Access Mail & Ne (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: pridgen@texas.net 28-Oct-99 19:09:28 To: All 29-Oct-99 11:30:18 Subj: Notes Mail 4.1 From: William Pridgen I'm on the verge of re-installing Warp 4, after a long hiatus. Does anyone use the Lotus Notes Mail that comes on a CD in the Warp 4 box? Is it any good? Thanks in advance. -- Bill Pridgen -- pridgen@texas.net --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Giganews.Com - Premium News Outsourcing (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: arelyea@vt.edu 28-Oct-99 19:33:02 To: All 29-Oct-99 11:30:18 Subj: Re: PMMail 2.1? From: "Antonio Relyea" On Sun, 24 Oct 1999 13:21:21 +0800, Wayne Bickell wrote: >When I ran the install program it detected my 2.0 install and offered >to overwrite the existing files. No problems at all. Clicking on help/ >about shows my registration details. I've searched the southsoft web site, I have seen no download for 2.1. Any help? Tony. --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: arelyea@vt.edu 28-Oct-99 19:36:04 To: All 29-Oct-99 11:30:18 Subj: Re: New OS/2 device driver development From: "Antonio Relyea" On Wed, 27 Oct 1999 09:19:42 -0400, David T. Johnson wrote: >Well, the driver situation isn't great but, IMO, it isn't terrible >either. The single biggest driver issue right now for OS/2 is getting >motherboard BIOSs that will allow OS/2 to find more than 64 MB of DRAM. >Many of the BIOS versions have an OS/2 memory > 64MB option but it often >does not work properly. And yes, this isn't really a 'driver' issue but >it is important. That 64MB thing is old hat. The option is still there (AFAIK) for OS/2 2.11 and below. I run 72MB and while DOS can't see it all, OS/2 does just fine. Tony. --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: lsunley@mb.sympatico.ca 29-Oct-99 00:59:19 To: All 29-Oct-99 11:30:18 Subj: Re: MSWinNT 4 share causes TRAP 000d? From: lsunley@mb.sympatico.ca (Lorne Sunley) On Thu, 28 Oct 1999 23:34:57, frank_mckenney@mindspring.com (Frank McKenney) wrote: > In , lsunley@mb.sympatico.ca (Lorne Sunley) writes: > --snip-- > >> >On Thu, 28 Oct 1999 03:35:45, frank_mckenney@mindspring.com (Frank > >> >McKenney) wrote: > >> >> Is there any reason why sharing a drive (okay, partition) on a MSWinNT 4 > >> >> box should cause my OS/2 system (Warp 4, XR_M012) to trap? > --snip-- > > > > > >From the syslevel output you seem to running the base install > >for MPTS and "file and print client" > > > >Try updating to one of the latest versions of MPTS WR8423 (?) > >for the 16 bit stack. > > > >You could also try WR8610 which gives you the > >newer 32 bit stack. > > > >The Peer software is also at the base level so you might > >try IP8407 for peer services (There are newer ones but they > >cause a problem with re-starting Peer shares). > > Lorne, > > Thanks. I'll try to do light duty stuff until this weekend, then start > throwing FixPaks at the problem until it stops occurri... er, I mean I > will execute a carefully planned program of selective software updates > until the problem is circumvented (;-). > > I'll let you know what happens. > The APAR database shows a number of Trap 000D problems associated with IFNET$ but none of them exactly matches the CS:EIP of the trap you got. They do result in updates of the MPTS for that module. Some of them do not quote an exact CS:EIP so they could apply. All of the ones shown would be corrected by WR8423. On my Warp 4 machine I run WR8610, to take advantage of the faster processing using the 32 bit stack. I have two 100 Mbit NICs connecting my workstation and test server (WR8620 WSeB). I found that 8610 when it came out fixed a number of problems (odd hangs etc) on a couple of networks with Warp clients and Warp Server 4 where the clients were using the LAN to connect to a dedicated Internet link. Anyway the "throw a bunch of fixp.." er "what you said" should/may correct the problem. I vaquely remember a reference (that I can't find in the APAR database) about some problems with Warp -> WinNT being corrected by the later LAN fixpacks but I think that had to do with an obvious popup trap error rather than a hard system bkack screen trap at the driver level. Good Luck Lorne Sunley --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: MBnet Networking Inc. (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: piquant00@uswestmail.net 29-Oct-99 01:03:14 To: All 29-Oct-99 11:30:18 Subj: Re: PMMail 2.1? From: piquant00@uswestmail.net (Annie K.) On Fri, 29 Oct 1999 00:33:05, "Antonio Relyea" wrote: :I've searched the southsoft web site, I have seen no download for 2.1. Any :help? See http://www.blueprintsoftwareworks.com/ PmMail doesn't belong to Southsoft anymore. -- Klaatu barada nikto --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Team OS/2 (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: sma.spam-not@rtd.com 29-Oct-99 02:58:13 To: All 29-Oct-99 11:30:19 Subj: Re: Warp Server not able to get available memory From: James Moe dwilliams9494@my-deja.com wrote: > > Thanks, Scott and Lorne. We have an OS/2 guru of sorts who helped us > configure HPFS386 to use an optimal cache size. > > But the problem isn't that we're running out of available memory - it's > that DB2 isn't using it. Memstat is sitting there telling us we have > 429 MB of available RAM (after DB2 startup, HPFS cache allocation, > etc), but we take the same configuration and ask for a total of 50,000 > pages (200 MB) of bufferpool and we don't get it. If we run this > configuration under Warp workstation, it works just fine. > > It's like Warp Server is limiting the amount of memory it'll give to > running programs. > Are you sure that the memory is not being used? That is, have doen stuff with DB2 that demands the amount of memory allocated? It may be that the memory is made available to DB2 but not committed until it is actually needed. -- sma at rtd dot com Remove ".spam-not" for email --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Sohnen-Moe Associates, Inc (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: spam_free_norrisg@linkline.com 28-Oct-99 19:28:22 To: All 29-Oct-99 11:30:19 Subj: Re: Disks From: "Graham C. Norris" Valheru wrote: > FYI, I moved to Florida from Canada and some disks got broken during the > move so please don't make assumptions you know nothing about. You might be suprised how many posters think they can persuade someone to post things so that they can steal them. Maybe if you'd mentioned WHY you needed the disks you wouldn't have received the same response. Graham. --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: spam_free_norrisg@linkline.com 28-Oct-99 19:31:05 To: All 29-Oct-99 11:30:19 Subj: Re: Warp 4 - How do you change the computer name? From: "Graham C. Norris" Bob Eager wrote: > On Thu, 28 Oct 1999 14:39:39, blackdeath@13softhome.net (Stewart > Honsberger) wrote: > > Change the HOSTNAME env. variable in your config.sys. > > > > Mine reads; > > > > SET HOSTNAME=BLACKDEATH > > Edit \IBMLAN\IBMLAN.INI; change the COMPUTERNAME= line (quite a long > way down; line 172 on mine) It's probably a good idea to change both of them to the same thing. Not essential, but less confusing! (OTOH it may be essential if you've configured NetBIOS over TCP/IP to talk to Winthing, but I'm not sertain on that score.) Graham. --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: spam_free_norrisg@linkline.com 28-Oct-99 19:34:10 To: All 29-Oct-99 11:30:19 Subj: Re: Tool to dissassemble desktop objects? From: "Graham C. Norris" Henk kelder wrote: > > Checkout wptoolxx.zip from: > > http://www.os2ss.com/information/kelder/index.html > > In the archive you'll find WPTOOLS.DLL which allows you to query object > setupstrings. > > Henk Oops, sorry Henk, forgot all about them! The price is undoubtably right too, and they're probably better supported than the others I mentioned too. Graham. --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: don@DTSsoftware.com 28-Oct-99 22:54:14 To: All 29-Oct-99 11:30:19 Subj: Re: Warp 4 - How do you change the computer name? From: "Don Thimsen" Bob, >>I suspect he wanted the OTHER one - used by Peer.<< You're right. This OS/2 system doesn't have TCP/IP installed - NetBEUI and 802.2 only. I did scan the system for all occurances of CLIENT012, and believe I found and changed the IBMLAN.INI file as well as several others. However, after a boot a NET STATUS command still shows "SERVER" name as CLIENT012. And other peers still connect to the machine as \\CLIENT012\... I'm not at work at the moment, so I can't play. But does Warp 4 require something besides changing the name in the INI file? Maybe change a parameter somewhere in MPTS to force a rebuild? I did this once several years ago, and it seemed easy on Warp 3. Thanks, Don Bob Eager wrote in message <176uZD2KcidF-pn2-MW0WBGj74dII@rikki>... >On Thu, 28 Oct 1999 14:39:39, blackdeath@13softhome.net (Stewart >Honsberger) wrote: > >> On Thu, 28 Oct 1999 10:28:43 -0400, Don Thimsen wrote: >> >When Warp 4 installs, a generated name is assigned >> >to the machine (i.e., CLIENT012). Is there a way to change this >> >name??? >> >> Change the HOSTNAME env. variable in your config.sys. >> >> Mine reads; >> >> SET HOSTNAME=BLACKDEATH > >Not quite. That one is the TCP/IP hostname, and doesn't get assigned >automatically. I suspect he wanted the OTHER one - used by Peer. > >Edit \IBMLAN\IBMLAN.INI; change the COMPUTERNAME= line (quite a long >way down; line 172 on mine) > >-- >Bob Eager >rde at tavi.co.uk >PC Server 325; PS/2s 8595*3, 9595*3 (2*P60 + P90), 8535, 8570, 9556*2, >8580*6, >8557*2, 8550, 9577, 8530, P70, PC/AT.. --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Origin Line 1 Goes Here (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: idabill@orofino-id.com 28-Oct-99 19:50:00 To: All 29-Oct-99 11:30:19 Subj: Warp 3 Connect and plug and play From: "Bill Redifer" I am not able to get my plug and play cards to work correctly under Warp 3 Connect. I have a P II 266 with an ATI All in Wonder Pro, Creative AWE 64, And Dlink nic. The video is AGP. This is a multi boot system with Win 98, nt 4, Win wfw 311. The Bill Gates tuff is working OK. OS/2 refusesto accept the the ATI drivers and Creative drivers for OS/2. Is this a plug and play problem? Thanks for your help. Bill Redifer idabill@orofino-id.com --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: First Step Internet (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: nospam@sancoatjpsdotnet.void 28-Oct-99 11:16:21 To: All 29-Oct-99 11:30:19 Subj: Re: Bootos2 options From: nospam@sancoatjpsdotnet.void (Sander Nyman) On 10/27/99 at 01:29 PM, lifedata@xxvol.com said: >raphaelt@netnews.worldnet.att.net (Raphael Tennenbaum) said: >>It's really hard for me to imagine you've been using OS/2 as >>long as you have and can't fathom that the options listed >As I said, I have stayed as far away from command line ANYTHING as >possible. This is the first time, anywhere, I have seen command line >switches referred to as SYNTAX. Maybe that is common as fleas on a dog >where you hang out, but it is the only place I've seen it. It is in fact used quite commonly. >This is the thing I hate about OS/2 the most. The idea that you have to >think like a computer hacker to use it, and the idea that you're some >kind of freak if you don't. There is nothing here unique to OS/2 Jim. Command line terminology is commonly used on a variety of platforms, included Win9x. You just didn't "get it". There is no shame in that. Blaming OS/2 for your lack of experience with the command line doesn't make much sense. Try this. Open an OS/2 window. At the prompt type an OS/2 command that you want information on followed by a space, and /?. As an example: CHKDSK /? What will appear next is the syntax (and yes, the word syntax is used throughout the help system ;-> ), and a description of the various switches. Do some experimentation, and it will become easy, and obvious to work with. Sander Nyman --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Origin Line 1 Goes Here (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: sma.spam-not@rtd.com 29-Oct-99 03:10:06 To: All 29-Oct-99 11:30:19 Subj: Re: SIO and PCI I/O card From: James Moe Stan Goodman wrote: > > I have available a 2-port PCI I/O card which requires > initialization/configuration at boot. It comes with a DOS executable that > does this, which amounts to its choosing an IRQ line and the port addresses > of the UARTs. This program would have to be run in STARTUP.CMD or in the > Startup folder, i.e. after SIO (or COM, for that matter) has set up serial > ports in CONFIG.SYS. > Does the configuration program have to run every time? Usually these are one time deals. If it has to run every time, I think you are SOL. You can set SIO or COM to assign particular IRQs/PORTs. I know that SIO probes the ports when it starts; it doesn't acquire the ports if the probe fails. The DEVICE line would look like: DEVICE=SIO.SYS (1,3F8,4) (2,2f8,3) -- sma at rtd dot com Remove ".spam-not" for email --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Sohnen-Moe Associates, Inc (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: mmellin@home.com 29-Oct-99 03:15:25 To: All 29-Oct-99 11:30:19 Subj: Simple networking question.... From: mmellin@home.com (Mark Mellin) To preface: I know only enough to be dangerous !! I'm looking to set up my Warp4 client with TCPIP 4.1 as a "gateway" on a "cable modem'd" home lan. I wish to have access to printer resources, file systems, as well as sharing internet access between across OS/2, NT, and Win-9X. 1) Do I *need* PEER ?? (I've already tried installing Peer from the Warp4 CD, and the installs craps out with "processing locked files - insufficient HDD space. - the HDD boot partition has about 700Mb free...) I don't want Peer, I don't like IBM's clunky slapped-together utility approach to product integration - hell -it's a batch file away from the DOS based utility installs.... 2) Can I use -or- do I *need* SafeFire or Injoy Firewall to accomplish/meet my networks objectives ?? 3) Are there any traps or pitfalls I should be aware of ?? 4) Other than the obvious, is there any reason I'd be better off using OS/2 Warp over NT Workstation or Server as a gateway?? 5) Why the heck couldn't I find any documentation on the above :) Thanks in advance for any help. Mark Mellin --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: @Home Network (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: bv@mail.bv.no 28-Oct-99 14:39:09 To: All 29-Oct-99 11:30:19 Subj: Re: what brand and model PC today to buy for OS/2 ? From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Bj=F8rn?= Vermo hamei@pacbell.net wrote: > > uh, if I may reword your statement then ? the IntelliStation does not have > OS/2 drivers for the Intergraph video card . . . otherwise, OS/2 support is > fine. Some Intellistations come with Matrox cards, in which case you could > say these were well supported. Yes, and I really think we talk about two entirely different kinds of "supported" here. IBM sell the Intellistation as an "NT workstation", so that is the only thing they officially are required to support. Besides, you do not get the option not to buy NT, which I resent. On the other hand, no IBM PC-type system today is made in such a way that it will not run OS/2, and very well at that. > Since OS/2 has no applications that can *use* > the Intergraph card, it's kind of a moot point ! and I notice Scitech indicates > possible support for the Intergraph chips . . hooray ! > One might hope this would change their policy a little, too - at least to the point that they might sell an Intellistation with no OS installed. I hate bundled software! > > on a related note, I deleted the preinstalled NT immediately on my 'station, > had a hell of a time later reinstalling it - Yes, installing NT may sometimes be a bit of a chore. It certainly is no easier than to install Warp 4. In both cases, it can be a lot of work unless you happen to have the ideally supported hardware mix. If it were not usually pre-installed, we would no doubt hear a lot about that. --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Norbionics (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: bv@mail.bv.no 28-Oct-99 13:06:12 To: All 29-Oct-99 11:30:19 Subj: Re: Lexmark Optra 40 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Bj=F8rn?= Vermo Harry Travis wrote: > > > An inveterate OS/2 user reports that this printer will put many more > smiles on your face if you shove some inexpensive 72 pin simms in it. If > Postscript were meant to run within 4 meg, Lexmark wouldn't have led you > to think 68 meg of memory is something anyone might want to shove in it. > The big sister model 45 comes with 16 meg standard. True enough. Today, RAM is cheap enough to get good bitmap throughput from an inexpensiv eprinter. It is quite possible to get good throughput from a 4MB PostScript printer if it is used for what it is good at. PostScript is a programming language which is excellent for vector graphics and (vector based) text rendering. The bitmap handling, on the other hand, is extremely inefficient. A few years ago, I saw a case where a professional phototypesetter took over 12 hours making one page with a detailed grayscale image... --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Norbionics (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: bv@mail.bv.no 28-Oct-99 13:41:20 To: All 29-Oct-99 11:30:19 Subj: Re: New OS/2 device driver development From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Bj=F8rn?= Vermo Alan Beagley wrote: > I thought that this OS/2 memory > 64MB setting was needed only for ancient versions of > OS/2: 2.1x or older. > > Warp 4 finds 128MB of RAM just fine on my Asus P2B-LS mobo. > The most common problem is that many motherboards will accomodate more memory than the chipset they use will actually support. BIOS changes will not help in those cases. Then there are those adapter makers who think "nobody will ever install more than 16MB/64MB/2GB RAM, so we'll use an address range just there for our own purposes". --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Norbionics (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: bv@mail.bv.no 28-Oct-99 14:16:16 To: All 29-Oct-99 11:30:19 Subj: Re: OK, I must be getting spoiled so let me ask for more ... From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Bj=F8rn?= Vermo "M.P. van Dobben de Bruijn" wrote: > ... > (as the import picture function of IBMWorks did not work on those) and > that did not work. So it is a problem to "import" those TIF-pictures into my > document this way, most likely because of an import-filter problem in IBM > Works I guess. There are a zillion different TIFF formats, and I doubt any single application supports all of them. PMview seems to support a wider selection than most, and can often be used to translate the format. The weakest import filter support I have seen, is in Microsoft Publisher. I usually have to translate files which are to be used there. There is an IBM EWS program which will read and process a lot of image formats, and which can run in batch mode if I remember right. --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Norbionics (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: bv@mail.bv.no 28-Oct-99 13:19:03 To: All 29-Oct-99 11:30:19 Subj: Re: Tool to dissassemble desktop objects? From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Bj=F8rn?= Vermo goldin@crocker.com wrote: > I am a relative newcomer to OS/2 (software engineer). I am creating > an installation CD for other developers which will copy various > tools onto their already-configured OS/2 system (e.g. compilers, > editors, etc) so that they can easily create a consistent > development environment. > The best way to do this (and have an elegant way to maintain things afterwards) is to use the CID mechanism. CID comes with OS/2, and can be used both to create a customized install of the OS and to install software packages on a high number of different computers at the same time. It takes some learning. If all the computers are really identical, you can clone the master system by backing up the desktop directory, ini-files and config.sys with zip. Then, you boot the clone systems to a command prompt (Alt+F1 to interrupt boot, then select F2) and unzip the files. OS/2 zip (and pkzip) will save the extended attributes of the desktop. Other compression programs may not do this properly. --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Norbionics (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: d.s.darrow@nvinet.com 28-Oct-99 20:54:20 To: All 29-Oct-99 11:30:19 Subj: Re: Bootos2 options From: "Doug Darrow" On Tue, 26 Oct 1999 11:45:05 -0400, lifedata@xxvol.com wrote: >In the Bootos2 docs there is a long list of options. But when I run Bootos2 I >never get a chance to select any options. It just takes off making a run. What >on earth is going on? > Huh? Those 'options' are descriptions of what the commandline switches do. --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Origin Line 1 Goes Here (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: lsunley@mb.sympatico.ca 29-Oct-99 04:10:08 To: All 29-Oct-99 11:30:19 Subj: Re: Simple networking question.... From: lsunley@mb.sympatico.ca (Lorne Sunley) On Fri, 29 Oct 1999 03:15:51, mmellin@home.com (Mark Mellin) wrote: > To preface: I know only enough to be dangerous !! > > I'm looking to set up my Warp4 client with TCPIP 4.1 > as a "gateway" on a "cable modem'd" home lan. > > I wish to have access to printer resources, file > systems, as well as sharing internet access between > across OS/2, NT, and Win-9X. > > 1) Do I *need* PEER ?? (I've already tried > installing Peer from the Warp4 CD, and the > installs craps out with "processing locked > files - insufficient HDD space. - the HDD > boot partition has about 700Mb free...) > > I don't want Peer, I don't like IBM's clunky > slapped-together utility approach to product > integration - hell -it's a batch file away > from the DOS based utility installs.... Yes you need to have "Peer" this is the set of software that provides for disk and print sharing on OS/2. There must be something causing the problem with "locked file update" as it is used by almost all OS/2 software updates. Peer is best installed when the OS is first installed as the release version on the CD has a problem if any of the config.sys lines are > 200 and something characters. > > 2) Can I use -or- do I *need* SafeFire or Injoy > Firewall to accomplish/meet my networks > objectives ?? You can/need to use these to have the gateway to the cable modem done by the OS/2 machine. > > 3) Are there any traps or pitfalls I should be > aware of ?? The setup of the TCP/IP addressing for the use of NAT is fairly picky, but the documentation provided by the Injoy firewall has good examples and is easy to follow. > > 4) Other than the obvious, is there any reason > I'd be better off using OS/2 Warp over NT > Workstation or Server as a gateway?? OS/2 is more stable and less likely to have problems with "take over the machine and destroy it" attacks from others lurking on the internet. When you have NETBIOS and TCP/IP installed on Windows XX machines, the act of "sharing" the disk drive by default makes it available to ALL of the machines connected to the internet. In order to protect your machines and the data on them, the Windows XX machines should only be on "your" side of the firewall. You should also make sure that the disk sharing in Windows is only bound to the NETBIOS protocol not NETBIOS over TCP/IP (which is the default). > > 5) Why the heck couldn't I find any documentation > on the above :) > No Comment Lorne Sunley --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: MBnet Networking Inc. (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: n3jja@my.address.is.my.business.... 29-Oct-99 04:13:13 To: All 29-Oct-99 11:30:19 Subj: Re: New OS/2 device driver development Message sender: n3jja@my.address.is.my.business.jackoff From: n3jja@my.address.is.my.business.jackoff (Jim Nuytens) On Thu, 28 Oct 1999 10:49:44, "Kim Cheung" wrote: > On 28 Oct 1999 13:34:47 GMT, Jim Nuytens wrote: > > >Next time, you might think a bit before you answer. > > Please, please, please. Not this kind of talk again. Just when these > newsgroups are now rid of Tim Martin and Brad Wardell the Great, and most of > the MVPs, let's bring some senity back to our discussion of OS/2. Well, if you want to pick nits, then the word is sanity, not senity. As for the talk, I consider my response quite mild considering I could have told the man he was full of it, didn't know what he was talking about, etc. I suggest you drop your sensitivity down a few notches, Kim. You'll live longer. As to Tim Martin; I never cared for him. Quite frankly, I found him to be a crank. Brad Wardell? Well, let's be upfront here. I find it strange that he or anyone else would think that they can strike a deal with IBM on developing a Warp 5 client when IBM would have to get permission from Microsoft to release the parts of OS/2 that they (MS) still have rights to. I pose the following question: If IBM couldn't get permission to license that code to 3rd parties, how would most of you feel about an OS/2 client without HPFS and networking? Both HPFS and Lan Manager are Microsoft's code, not IBM's. Personally, I find all this talk about 3rd party efforts for a Warp 5 client to be highly suspect. Microsoft isn't about to help OS/2 in any way, shape, or form by giving IBM permission to license that code. "The bureaucratic mentality is the only constant in the universe." Dr. McCoy to Kirk / Star Trek IV:The Voyage Home --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Origin Line 1 Goes Here (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: MtLavinia_nospam@nym._nospam.ali... 28-Oct-99 21:31:05 To: All 29-Oct-99 11:30:19 Subj: Re: FP12 trap. Pls help Message sender: MtLavinia_nospam@nym._nospam.alias.net From: "Lavinia" Thanks, that did it. Why would I not want to use PC with this FP? L. On Tue, 26 Oct 1999 23:39:39 -0400, Duane Chamblee wrote: >I've seen this... I bet you didn't remove Process Commander before >installing this fixpak. >Try removing it and rerun FP12. > >You may be able to reinstall PC, but I suggest that you don't. --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: NeverUmind (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: letoured@nospam.net 29-Oct-99 00:28:26 To: All 29-Oct-99 11:30:19 Subj: Re: Bootos2 options From: letoured@nospam.net Psst... borrowing from an old political line: IT IS THE WAY THE BOOTOS2 INSTRUCTIONS ARE WRITTEN STUPID. One thing that is wrong is that they imply that you put the words target, source, etc. in the command line. What the docs need are examples that don't make an unknowing user guess -- and they do just that now. When Bootos2 doesn't run correctly, and there are failures, the user is left thinking that he/she has made the error and there is nothing in the docs that help. Example the command bootos2 2disk=a works just fine a TP560 [FP 9] and makes two boot disks. -- The same command does not work on TP 600 [FP12]. It asks for two disk, but only writes files to one and thinks the process is complete. No where in the documentation is there anything that might explain this. If I didn't have a second machine (the old TP560) to test with, I would end up assuming that it was me. So where is the fault here with the TP 600? And while I have the attention of all you guys, what is the Bootos2 command to make a 2 disk boot set from the copy of OS2 that is drive "D"? -- Everything I've tried on three different machines always reports 'path not found.' >>>It's really hard for me to imagine you've been using OS/2 as >>>long as you have and can't fathom that the options listed >>As I said, I have stayed as far away from command line ANYTHING as >>possible. This is the first time, anywhere, I have seen command line >>switches referred to as SYNTAX. Maybe that is common as fleas on a dog >>where you hang out, but it is the only place I've seen it. >It is in fact used quite commonly. >>This is the thing I hate about OS/2 the most. The idea that you have to >>think like a computer hacker to use it, and the idea that you're some >>kind of freak if you don't. >There is nothing here unique to OS/2 Jim. Command line terminology is >commonly used on a variety of platforms, included Win9x. You just didn't >"get it". There is no shame in that. Blaming OS/2 for your lack of >experience with the command line doesn't make much sense. Try this. >Open an OS/2 window. At the prompt type an OS/2 command that you want >information on followed by a space, and /?. As an example: >CHKDSK /? >What will appear next is the syntax (and yes, the word syntax is used >throughout the help system ;-> ), and a description of the various >switches. Do some experimentation, and it will become easy, and obvious >to work with. >Sander Nyman _____________ Ed Letourneau --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: bCandid - Powering the world's discussions - http (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: spam_free_norrisg@linkline.com 28-Oct-99 21:46:15 To: All 29-Oct-99 11:30:19 Subj: Re: Warp 3 Connect and plug and play From: "Graham C. Norris" Warp 3 doesn't support PnP, which means that sometimes you get lucky and sometimes you don't. Your BIOS should have a setting on the PnP setup page for "PnP Aware OS Installed": try setting it to No if you haven't already. Graham. --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: spam_free_norrisg@linkline.com 28-Oct-99 21:50:09 To: All 29-Oct-99 11:30:19 Subj: Re: SIO and PCI I/O card From: "Graham C. Norris" One of the things SIO2K was supposed to do was work with PCI cards, but development seems to have stopped and the author is unresponsive. You might want to try it anyway, but I ran into an odd problem with it installed: a partial wipeout of the partition it was installed on. This happened three times, in each case shortly after I reinstalled it. It didn't recur after I gave up trying to use it. Not conclusive evidence of a defect in SIO2K of course, but take this as a warning to back your system up before trying it! Graham. --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: kahnt@adan.kingston.net 29-Oct-99 00:54:19 To: All 29-Oct-99 11:30:19 Subj: Re: MS .asf files on Linux? From: "Mark L. Kahnt" Jack Madison wrote: > > "Mark L. Kahnt" wrote: > > > <<<---SNIP--->>> > > > Shhhh, but NetShow (which was the previous ASF player) was available for > > Linux for some time - I haven't touched it for quite some time because > > all it ever did was shriek. In fact, that is all I've gotten from that > > or Windows Media Player on any platform, try as I might to sort it out. > > Add in that they do not have a release that will install on Windows NT > > 3.51 (the 32 bit version requires NT 4 and some service pack, the 16 bit > > version sees NT and tells you to use the 32 bit version. I installed the > > 16 bit release under OS/2 and Win-OS2 and use that under NT 3.51 - still > > all I get is the shriek... > > -- > > > <<<---SNIP--->>> > > I'd be happy to give the old NetShow for Linux a try if I could find > it... M$ web site doesn't have it any longer (I never saw it in the > first place), and their promise to support UNIX seems half-hearted. I > have even installed Win98 on a second drive, but Win98 chokes on both my > network card (which I can live without), and my Sound card (Creative > Labs AudioPCI). I was actually quite surprised when Win98 (including > creative labs Win98 drivers) failed to use my soundcard after > Linux/sndconfig just plain worked.. > > Any other thoughts, suggestions, or pointers to the old NetShow for > Linux program before I just give up for now? It was what I got dumped to when I was looking for the Media Player. As I said, for me, it wouldn't work, but the fact that it wouldn't work on any o/s on this machine makes me suspect something in my configuration was too difficult for it. Try the Downloads > Free Downloads > Windows Additions (or names to that effect), and look for Windows Media Player, and then in those pages, point to the UNIX platform information, iirc. If they still offer it, it would be in there, otherwise they have dropped it. I seem to recall that it ran fine with either libc5 or glibc2, and possibly even a choice of a.out and ELF versions. -- ============================================================ To respond via e-mail - remove the "go-away-spammers" portion of the Reply to: value. Mark L. Kahnt, C.P. Box 1263, Kingston, Ontario K7L 4Y8 Voix: (613) 531-8767 Cellulaire: (613) 539-0935 Telecopieur: (613) 531-8684 Email: kahnt@adan.kingston.net --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: M.L. Kahnt New Markets Consulting (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: spam_free_norrisg@linkline.com 28-Oct-99 21:56:10 To: All 29-Oct-99 11:30:19 Subj: Re: Warp 4 - How do you change the computer name? From: "Graham C. Norris" The MPTN setup doesn't affect this. Try System Setup, Install/Remove, Peer Installation and reconfigure the Peer setup. There are unfortunately a whole horde of things which can make this not work, and not all of them are solved. In my case it starts up and then closes again without any popups or error messages at all. Graham. --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: ve7uw@rac.ca 29-Oct-99 05:30:01 To: All 29-Oct-99 11:30:19 Subj: warp3 fixpack 32 lock up From: Leo Whiteway I have a 586 with 28 megs ram and 3.2 gig HD. I run os2warp 3 HPFS and also use part237.zip boot manager and Netscape 2.02XR. All runs very well. I have been finding too many web sites that insist that I run a newer version of Netscape. I read where I must run fixpack 32 to be able to install Netscape 4.6. I downloaded all the fixpack 32 files and made the disks. I installed it and all seemd to go just fine but when I finished and tried to reboot into os2, the whole thing locked and showed a page of things I must record and then ask IBM what to do. Of course I can't do that anymore and I have since then reinstalled OS2 warp3 and Netscape 2.02XR. I am back where I started, Any ideas what I can try? I can't afford to buy warp4 and I am stuck with this computer. Well, that's not entirely true. I can change the CPU to a 486DX100 if you think there may be a conflict because the AMD cpu is not completely compatible. Thank you for any help you may be. Leo (Bing) Whiteway -- Posted via CNET Help.com http://www.help.com/ --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: domi@kenavo.NOSPAM.fi 29-Oct-99 05:28:22 To: All 29-Oct-99 11:30:19 Subj: Re: Notes Mail 4.1 From: domi@kenavo.NOSPAM.fi (Dominique Pivard) On Fri, 29 Oct 1999 00:09:57, William Pridgen wrote: > I'm on the verge of re-installing Warp 4, after a long hiatus. Does > anyone use the Lotus Notes Mail that comes on a CD in the Warp 4 box? > Is it any good? Thanks in advance. You'll have to get and install the stuff from ftp://hobbes.nmsu.edu/pub/os2/apps/internet/notes if you want to use Notes Mail with POP3/SMTP (to retrieve/send mail via your ISP) --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: None!! (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: hunters@thunder.indstate.edu 29-Oct-99 05:37:00 To: All 29-Oct-99 11:30:19 Subj: Re: Wesb Boot From: hunters@thunder.indstate.edu In article <3818d5ea_1@news1.prserv.net>, "Valheru" wrote: > FYI, I moved to Florida from Canada and some disks got broken during > the move so please don't make assumptions you know nothing about. I > did not know that this wasn't a binary group, sorry for asking for > files. Hey, it's OK. I didn't mean to sound pissed! :) If you broke your CD, then contact IBM. You can get a replacement disk if you mail in the broken peices... (you may hae to pay for shipping) Just remember, your license is for the *software*, and NOT the media on which it's written. Good luck! -- -Steven Hunter *OS/2 Warp 4 * | hunters@thunder.indstate.edu *AMD K6-2 400* | Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy. --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Deja.com - Before you buy. (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: bmward@attglobal.net.where 29-Oct-99 07:45:17 To: All 29-Oct-99 11:30:19 Subj: Intel 740 AGP video card problem From: bmward@attglobal.net.where (Bruce Ward) I have Warp3 connect with FP40 and recently installed an I740 AGP graphics card which comes with OS/2 drivers. There is one minor problem which I believe others may have observed and may have a fix for. The problem is that after running a DOS Window, some OS/2 windows (not all) lose the pointer - it just becomes invisible when moved over the window. It happens to the Win-OS/2 windows too. I'm not totally sure that I've tied down the symptoms properly (after all I'm not getting it to happen right now when testing! :-( ), but that's seems to be about the gist of it. Anyone soved the "disappearing pointer" before? Bruce Ward (bmward at attglobal dot net) --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Inet Ltd, Christchurch, New Zealand (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: w.h.m.wauters.1998@cranfield.ac.uk 29-Oct-99 09:40:14 To: All 29-Oct-99 11:30:19 Subj: Motherboard Memory recognition > 64MB From: Wim Wauters Alan Beagley wrote: > I thought that this OS/2 memory > 64MB setting was needed only for ancient versions of > OS/2: 2.1x or older. Agreed. > Warp 4 finds 128MB of RAM just fine on my Asus P2B-LS mobo. > > Alan Thanks for the info. I hope you don't mind me adding your MoBo to the 'comp.os.os2.setup.misc/motherboard Memory recognition > 64MB' thread. > "David T. Johnson" wrote: > > > Well, the driver situation isn't great but, IMO, it isn't terrible > > either. The single biggest driver issue right now for OS/2 is getting > > motherboard BIOSs that will allow OS/2 to find more than 64 MB of DRAM. > > Many of the BIOS versions have an OS/2 memory > 64MB option but it often > > does not work properly. And yes, this isn't really a 'driver' issue but > > it is important. --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Sirius Cybernetics Corporation (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: w.h.m.wauters.1998@cranfield.ac.uk 29-Oct-99 09:44:07 To: All 29-Oct-99 11:30:19 Subj: Re: New OS/2 device driver development From: Wim Wauters Bob Germer wrote: > Well, I don't know why you have such problems. I have >64 Megs on at least > 2 dozen different motherboards either in my own shop or on clients' > machines. We have no-name boards, Intel, Tyan, ASUS, Premio, and other > motherboards in the mix, all of which recognize more than 64 Megs. Splendid ! Do they have SIMM slots or are they DIMM only (to give me an idea of how old your boards (are)? What type are they (super7, SlotA, Slot1/2/3/...,socket370) ? --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Sirius Cybernetics Corporation (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: sigurdur@naglfar.ifi.uio.no 29-Oct-99 11:08:21 To: All 29-Oct-99 11:30:19 Subj: Re: Networking 2 home computers... From: Sigurd Urdahl [cleaned up the quoting a bit] mcbrides@erols.com (Jerry McBride) writes: > In article <3818adcd.0@news.sewanee.edu>, > "Michael Guyear" wrote: > > On Thu, 28 Oct 1999 06:56:06 -0400, Jerry McBride wrote: > > > Anyone here done a 2 computer network with fibre? I'm saving up the > > > computer > > > budget money to do just that and I'm interested in anything you have to > > > comment > > > on this subject. > >Way over priced. I did this once in the lab just for fun, only 10 MBS > >though. It's no faster than 10MB TP (of course) and way more expensive for > >the fiber interfaces. Only reason I could see for this is in long distance > >runs or very noisy environments. > > > > Yes, noise is a concern as we run a couple of welders in the work place... > > :') > > But no faster than 10baseT? 10 Mbits per sec is quite the same amount of data on coax, 10baseT or fibre. _But_ fibre is capable of moving a lot more than 10 Mbits if you have NICs that will give you higher speeds (100 Mbits or even Gbits). -sig -- sigurd urdahl --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Dept. of Informatics, University of Oslo, Norway (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: rdohrenburg@hotmail.com 29-Oct-99 05:44:19 To: All 29-Oct-99 14:46:21 Subj: Styler/2 AKA SmartWindows Increases Performace? From: Robert Dohrenburg Hi, I just installed Styler/2 AKA SmartWindows in two computers. The strange thing is that in both computers' the CPU meter show less spikes and the spikes are shorter. Overall I feel that both computers are more responsive in terms of screen drawings of window elements. Is it possible that this program/utility is replacing bloated parts of the OS? I remember OD1.X and OD2.0 did the contrary and my system lost performance. Can anyone can confirm this? Robert, --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: EarthLink Network, Inc. (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: dwilliams9494@my-deja.com 29-Oct-99 11:29:28 To: All 29-Oct-99 14:46:21 Subj: Re: Warp Server not able to get available memory From: dwilliams9494@my-deja.com James- We didn't get very scientific about it (for example, we didn't take the time to look at bufferpool stats in the monitors). But we didn't need to: performance fell through the floor when we increased the bufferpools over the 'threshold'. In every other case, available memory dropped when we started and connected to the db and performance was good and consistent. If we exceeded the threshold, available memory didn't drop and performance was horrible. So it appears that we exceeded some 220 MB barrier that causes DB2 not to get the memory (even with > 450 MB available), write error messages to db2diag.log ('The memory for bufferpool and estore cannot be allocated'), and revert back to extremely low default bufferpool sizes. It appears that this occurs when the combined total of all bufferpools plus dbheap exceeds 220 MB (not just a single bp > 220 MB), but again, we haven't taken the time to get too scientific about that. The DB2 support rep is looking through our traces now. Folks have said that DB2 should be able to work around this 220 MB-per-allocation limit, so maybe it's something else. I'll post what comes out of it. I suppose I should ask: Has anyone been able to allocate and use bufferpools larger than 220 MB (>55,000 pages) under OS/2 Warp? Derek Williams In article <38190D50.ED2851E6@rtd.com>, James Moe wrote: > > > dwilliams9494@my-deja.com wrote: > > > > Thanks, Scott and Lorne. We have an OS/2 guru of sorts who helped us > > configure HPFS386 to use an optimal cache size. > > > > But the problem isn't that we're running out of available memory - it's > > that DB2 isn't using it. Memstat is sitting there telling us we have > > 429 MB of available RAM (after DB2 startup, HPFS cache allocation, > > etc), but we take the same configuration and ask for a total of 50,000 > > pages (200 MB) of bufferpool and we don't get it. If we run this > > configuration under Warp workstation, it works just fine. > > > > It's like Warp Server is limiting the amount of memory it'll give to > > running programs. > > > Are you sure that the memory is not being used? That is, have doen > stuff with DB2 that demands the amount of memory allocated? > It may be that the memory is made available to DB2 but not committed > until it is actually needed. > > -- > > sma at rtd dot com > Remove ".spam-not" for email > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy. --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Deja.com - Before you buy. (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: cocke@ibm.net 29-Oct-99 06:13:08 To: All 29-Oct-99 14:46:21 Subj: Re: My big mouth. From: Michael W. Cocke On Thu, 28 Oct 1999 10:33:32 -0400, lifedata@xxvol.com wrote: >Michael W. Cocke said: > >>>I just got a note from http://computergeek.com that they have fixed their sales > >>I decided to take a look, and all I got at that url was a screen saying to >>check back in august. (August!?) > >I'm terribly sorry about that. My mistake. There should be an "s" on GEEK. >The URL is: > >http://computergeeks.com/ > >Jim L >Remove XX from address to Email >Crooks and kooks will get guns regardless of laws. > AH. Found it, thanks! ======================================================================== Member: DNRC Watcher: Babylon 5 User: OS/2 Warp If you're going to do something, do something worth doing. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Global Network Services - Remote Access Mail & Ne (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: cocke@ibm.net 29-Oct-99 07:21:09 To: All 29-Oct-99 14:46:21 Subj: Re: Warp 4 - How do you change the computer name? From: Michael W. Cocke On Thu, 28 Oct 1999 22:54:29 -0400, Don Thimsen wrote: >Bob, > >>>I suspect he wanted the OTHER one - used by Peer.<< > >You're right. This OS/2 system doesn't have TCP/IP installed - >NetBEUI and 802.2 only. > >I did scan the system for all occurances of CLIENT012, >and believe I found and changed the IBMLAN.INI file >as well as several others. However, after a boot a >NET STATUS command still shows "SERVER" name >as CLIENT012. And other peers still connect to the >machine as \\CLIENT012\... > >I'm not at work at the moment, so I can't play. But >does Warp 4 require something besides changing >the name in the INI file? Maybe change a parameter >somewhere in MPTS to force a rebuild? I did this once >several years ago, and it seemed easy on Warp 3. > >Thanks, >Don > > > >Bob Eager wrote in message <176uZD2KcidF-pn2-MW0WBGj74dII@rikki>... >>On Thu, 28 Oct 1999 14:39:39, blackdeath@13softhome.net (Stewart >>Honsberger) wrote: >> >>> On Thu, 28 Oct 1999 10:28:43 -0400, Don Thimsen wrote: >>> >When Warp 4 installs, a generated name is assigned >>> >to the machine (i.e., CLIENT012). Is there a way to change this >>> >name??? >>> >>> Change the HOSTNAME env. variable in your config.sys. >>> >>> Mine reads; >>> >>> SET HOSTNAME=BLACKDEATH >> >>Not quite. That one is the TCP/IP hostname, and doesn't get assigned >>automatically. I suspect he wanted the OTHER one - used by Peer. >> >>Edit \IBMLAN\IBMLAN.INI; change the COMPUTERNAME= line (quite a long >>way down; line 172 on mine) >> >>-- >>Bob Eager >>rde at tavi.co.uk >>PC Server 325; PS/2s 8595*3, 9595*3 (2*P60 + P90), 8535, 8570, 9556*2, >>8580*6, >>8557*2, 8550, 9577, 8530, P70, PC/AT.. > To change the peer name, the only thing that needs to be changed (for warp 3 or 4 peer)is the computername= line in \ibmlan\ibmlan.ini. I've done it dozens of times at work. You may need to net stop req and restart it for the change to take effect. One loud word of warning that I had to learn the hard way - do NOT do this on WSeB! ======================================================================== Member: DNRC Watcher: Babylon 5 User: OS/2 Warp If you're going to do something, do something worth doing. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Global Network Services - Remote Access Mail & Ne (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: cocke@ibm.net 29-Oct-99 07:34:00 To: All 29-Oct-99 14:46:21 Subj: Re: Simple networking question.... From: Michael W. Cocke On Fri, 29 Oct 1999 03:15:51 GMT, Mark Mellin wrote: >To preface: I know only enough to be dangerous !! > >I'm looking to set up my Warp4 client with TCPIP 4.1 >as a "gateway" on a "cable modem'd" home lan. > >I wish to have access to printer resources, file >systems, as well as sharing internet access between >across OS/2, NT, and Win-9X. > >1) Do I *need* PEER ?? (I've already tried > installing Peer from the Warp4 CD, and the > installs craps out with "processing locked > files - insufficient HDD space. - the HDD > boot partition has about 700Mb free...) > > I don't want Peer, I don't like IBM's clunky > slapped-together utility approach to product > integration - hell -it's a batch file away > from the DOS based utility installs.... It's technically possible to share drives & printers without using peer, but you won't like it, and you probably won't be able to make it work - lpr and nfs are the keywords to look for if you want to see what I mean. I'd correct your problem with peer and use that, if I were you. > >2) Can I use -or- do I *need* SafeFire or Injoy > Firewall to accomplish/meet my networks > objectives ?? Yes, on the gateway machine - the one with 2 network cards in it. I looked (briefly) at SafeFire, then ordered the Injoy SOHO edition. Being familiar with Injoy support from the dialer software, it was a no-brainer to stick with Injoy. (that was a compliment to injoy, if it wasn't clear). > >3) Are there any traps or pitfalls I should be > aware of ?? Go thru the security configuration THROUGHLY - don't accept defaults unless you understand EXACTLY what you're doing. >4) Other than the obvious, is there any reason > I'd be better off using OS/2 Warp over NT > Workstation or Server as a gateway?? OS/2 is more secure and more robust. Take a look thru zdnet and dejanews for keywords "windows and security". You couldn't pay me to use a windows machine for a firewall. >5) Why the heck couldn't I find any documentation > on the above :) You were looking in the wrong places, apparently. There's a ton of useful info in the injoy manual, the tcp/ip redbooks, "OS/2 Warp Administrators Survival Guide", and comp.os.os2/networking.* > > >Thanks in advance for any help. >Mark Mellin > > > > > ======================================================================== Member: DNRC Watcher: Babylon 5 User: OS/2 Warp If you're going to do something, do something worth doing. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Global Network Services - Remote Access Mail & Ne (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: furd@mit.edu 29-Oct-99 08:10:16 To: All 29-Oct-99 14:46:21 Subj: GA-71X and Warp Memory Detection From: "Frank Field" I've been casting around for ideas/strategies; I've got one of the new Athlon boards (the Gigabyte 71X) and, although OS/2 installs just swimmingly, it only detects a little over 64 megabaytes of the 256 megabytes installed. Toggling the "Memory above 64 megs" flag in the BIOS to "OS2" makes things worse; then only 16 megs are found. This does *NOT* seem to be restricted to the Gigabyte; I have gotten e-mails from people with Biostar and Soyo boards who also cite this, and there are usenet posts suggesting that it happens on MSI and FIC boards too - one of which uses the AMI BIOS instead of the Award. I've posted e-mails to AMD and Gigabyte, to no avail (or, at least, with no response). I even posted a PROBLEM.TXT to IBM. Award makes it hard to contact them at all; they point you back to your board/system vendor. Anyone got any other ideas about how I might proceed in trying to get this resolved? Note that, this morning, I got a post from someone claiming that this is also a problem with NT4 SP5, but I can't confirm that yet. I can say that it is *NOT* a problem for Win95/98). Ideas, anyone??? Frank Field furd@alum.mit.edu O- --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Massachvsetts Institvte of Technology (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: bandyo@wam.umd.edu 29-Oct-99 08:50:03 To: All 29-Oct-99 14:46:22 Subj: Strage IP address? From: Sushenjit Bandyopadhyay I have just installed Warp 4 (with FP 12). I have a dialup connection to the internet using DOIP. After running for a few days the (connecting and disconnecting as needed) the internet access stops working. I don't know much about TCPIP, but this is what I get, when I do netstat \a. [E:\]netstat -a addr 0.0.0.0 interface 10 mask 0 broadcast 0.0.0.0 addr 128.8.22.5 interface 10 mask ffff0000 broadcast 128.8.3.101 addr 127.0.0.1 interface 0 mask ff000000 broadcast 127.0.0.1 When the system works I get: [E:\]netstat -a addr 128.8.22.5 interface 10 mask ffff0000 broadcast 128.8.3.101 addr 127.0.0.1 interface 0 mask ff000000 broadcast 127.0.0.1 So what is adding the 0.0.0.0 IP? And how do I stop this? Thanks. Sushenjit --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: University of Maryland, College Park (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: rde@tavi.co.uk 29-Oct-99 13:20:25 To: All 29-Oct-99 14:46:22 Subj: Re: Warp 4 - How do you change the computer name? From: rde@tavi.co.uk (Bob Eager) On Fri, 29 Oct 1999 02:31:10, "Graham C. Norris" wrote: > > Edit \IBMLAN\IBMLAN.INI; change the COMPUTERNAME= line (quite a long > > way down; line 172 on mine) > > It's probably a good idea to change both of them to the same thing. Not > essential, but less confusing! (OTOH it may be essential if you've > configured NetBIOS over TCP/IP to talk to Winthing, but I'm not sertain > on that score.) Sorry, I should have made it clearer. I did mean that...otherwise as you say there is scope for endless confusion. I have enough trouble with one person (my mother) calling me Robert... -- Bob Eager rde at tavi.co.uk PC Server 325; PS/2s 8595*3, 9595*3 (2*P60 + P90), 8535, 8570, 9556*2, 8580*6, 8557*2, 8550, 9577, 8530, P70, PC/AT.. --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Tavi Systems (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: charybdis@MailAndNews.com 29-Oct-99 14:01:26 To: All 29-Oct-99 14:46:22 Subj: deleting os2? From: charybdis@MailAndNews.com (chary) This question is about deleting some files which apparently are os2 (archive? drivers?) on a four year old IBM pc. Hopefully somebody here will be able to help out, since I didn't get any replies on the IBM pc group. There is a directory named C:\Diskettes. I'm wondering if it can be safely deleted. The folder is 103 megs, and it contains the subfolder Os2V3, with ~34 megs. These files came with the system. Files are dated 1995. Os2 never will be used. This is an IBM Personal Computer 350-P133, MT6586-7uo, purchased 12/95. The folder is visible from Windows Explorer, I'd like to just delete it from there. Windows is the os that is being used. AFAIK, the drive is not partitioned, and Os2 was never actually installed (the computer isn't mine, it's a friend's, and I haven't personally seen it). Thanks for any help. --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Origin Line 1 Goes Here (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: aldel@attglobal.net 29-Oct-99 16:25:02 To: All 29-Oct-99 19:49:03 Subj: ThinkPad 755CD CDrom, HOW??? From: aldel@attglobal.net (ALDEL) Had Win95 + OS/2 Ver3 Red on my IBM Thinkpad 755CD with Floppy drive and IBM Cdrom working fine. Somehow lost the cdrom and Modem trying to install Ver 4. (had to reinstall) Had to reinstall Windows 3.1 because I have the disks and os2 ver3. Managed to get the modem pcmia back working: but cannot get the cd-rom back. The cd rom is an IBM teac. I tried atapi drivers, msdex, and a couple others, No good. Help really appreciated. Albert. It took me 82 years to get this dumb, ;-( -- ----------------------------------------------------------- aldel@attglobal.net (ALDEL) ----------------------------------------------------------- -- ----------------------------------------------------------- aldel@attglobal.net (ALDEL) ----------------------------------------------------------- --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Global Network Services - Remote Access Mail & Ne (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: noone@llondel.demon.co.uk 29-Oct-99 20:20:04 To: All 29-Oct-99 19:49:03 Subj: Re: deleting os2? From: "Dave {Reply Address in.sig}" On Fri, 29 Oct 1999 14:01:53 GMT, chary wrote: >This question is about deleting some files which apparently are os2 (archive? >drivers?) on a four year old IBM pc. Hopefully somebody here will be able to >help out, since I didn't get any replies on the IBM pc group. > A useful trick is to go and rename the files/directory. If something breaks you can go rename them back again, if not, you can delete them. Note that this trick won't always work on an OS/2 system because various parts of the OS manage to spot that you've renamed a file and update icon properties to continue pointing to the renamed file... Dave -- mail dav e@llondel.demon.co.uk http://www.llondel.demon.co.uk Give blood... Play Rugby! --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: the bus stop (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: cotroneo@stny.rr.com 29-Oct-99 20:56:22 To: All 29-Oct-99 19:49:03 Subj: Re: Simple networking question.... From: cotroneo@stny.rr.com In , mmellin@home.com (Mark Mellin) writes: >To preface: I know only enough to be dangerous !! > >1) Do I *need* PEER ?? (I've already tried > installing Peer from the Warp4 CD, and the > installs craps out with "processing locked > files - insufficient HDD space. - the HDD > boot partition has about 700Mb free...) Make sure the the first line in your config.sys is for the hpfs driver. Keith Cotroneo cotroneo@stny.rr.com --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Time Warner Road Runner - Binghamton NY (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: cotroneo@stny.rr.com 29-Oct-99 20:59:12 To: All 29-Oct-99 19:49:03 Subj: Re: Simple networking question.... From: cotroneo@stny.rr.com In , mmellin@home.com (Mark Mellin) writes: >To preface: I know only enough to be dangerous !! > >2) Can I use -or- do I *need* SafeFire or Injoy > Firewall to accomplish/meet my networks > objectives ?? I use safefire. It has been rock solid without even 1 hicup since I installed it (five months). Keith Cotroneo cotroneo@stny.rr.com --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Time Warner Road Runner - Binghamton NY (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: wishIcould@no.spam.for.me 29-Oct-99 17:58:25 To: All 29-Oct-99 19:49:03 Subj: internet security and warp4 From: "Daniel Enright" Hey, I was wondering, I have warp4 client, and fixpack 11, is there any other upgrades I should be doing for internet security. (note: I use dial other internet providers application.) Such as in win9x crap dial up networking you have to do dial up networking upgrades or someone will take over your computer type thing(coming from my tech support days). Is there any security patches for os/2? Is there any daemons or anything which are loaded with the os/2 warp 4 client which should be disabled? Such as in the linux world where you have to disable all that extra stuff (such as a telnet server). And finally is there any extra software (freeware preferably open source) which is a recommened add on for home users who are paranoid. Cheers, Daniel --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Sprint Canada Inc. (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: donm@ftel.net 29-Oct-99 23:48:17 To: All 29-Oct-99 21:24:01 Subj: Re: Styler/2 AKA SmartWindows Increases Performace? From: donm@ftel.net (Don Morse) In message <7vcqn7$j2j$2@coranto.ucs.mun.ca> - jdc0014@InfoNET.st-johns.nf.ca (John Hong) writes: :> :>Robert Dohrenburg (rdohrenburg@hotmail.com) wrote: :> :>: Is it possible that this program/utility is replacing bloated parts of :>: the OS? I remember OD1.X and OD2.0 did the contrary and my system lost :>: performance. :> :> I don't think it does, I didn't see anything getting copied into :>the X:\OS2\*.* directories when I tried it out... :> :> actually, there is a smartwin.dll that gets copied to the X:\OS2\DLL directory. I don't know if this could account for the performance gained ******************************************************** If a million monkeys on typewriters can eventually type out the Bible, given enough time. Then Bill Gates had 25 monkeys and a week! ******************************************************** dmorse@pacificnet.net using Merlin and EmTec News ICQ 245937, AOL IM merlinof2 www.blackpalace.com ******************************************************** --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Franklin interNet http://www.franklin.net (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: ilya@math.ohio-state.edu 29-Oct-99 22:10:04 To: All 29-Oct-99 21:24:01 Subj: Re: Warp Server not able to get available memory From: ilya@math.ohio-state.edu (Ilya Zakharevich) [A complimentary Cc of this posting was sent to ], who wrote in article <7vc0fj$ht7$1@nnrp1.deja.com>: > The DB2 support rep is looking through our traces now. Folks have said > that DB2 should be able to work around this 220 MB-per-allocation > limit, so maybe it's something else. I'll post what comes out of it. There is no "220 MB-per-allocation" limit. There is a limit for how much virtual memory an application [*] can see: 512M. A lot of these 512M are reserved for shared areas, DLL areas etc. What remains is somewhat like 220M of virtual memory (this digit is a result of experiments) available for application-requested memory. *No workaround* is possible. [*] Warp 4.5 is reported to be different. Enjoy, Ilya P.S. I repeat that this is *virtual memory*. My first experiments were done on a laptop with 16M of memory and 32M of swap. I could *assign* (without *touching*) myself 220M of virtual memory (due to overcommitment), but no more. So I repeat: it has nothing to do with how much "free" memory do you have. --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Department of Mathematics, The Ohio State Univers (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: flywheel@image.dk 29-Oct-99 22:26:18 To: All 29-Oct-99 21:24:01 Subj: Re: Warp 3 Connect and plug and play From: Peter Jespersen Bill Redifer wrote: > > What about Warp 4? (PnP support) > Graham C. Norris wrote in message > news:381926A7.138596FE@linkline.com... > > Warp 3 doesn't support PnP, which means that sometimes you get lucky and > > sometimes you don't. Your BIOS should have a setting on the PnP setup > > page for "PnP Aware OS Installed": try setting it to No if you haven't > > already. There are some pnp-support in Warp4 you can set Warp4 to The hardware detection modes in Warp4 are: No hardware detection Use previous detection Detect removed hardware Detect added hardware Full hardware detection And you are able to set default detection mode and the detection mode the system will use the nect time. * The ISA Win95-PnP cards is virtually useless, in non Win9x operating systems! * Installing drivers manually is no problem in Warp4, unlike in Win9x (Win9x is a real smartarse)! -- Live long and prosper... _________________________________________________________________ Peter Jespersen, Team OS/2 Denmark flywheel@image.dk http://www.image.dk/~flywheel/ Consciousness: that annoying time between naps. --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Gothic Dreams (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: nospam_evr@spam.net 29-Oct-99 18:30:09 To: All 29-Oct-99 21:24:01 Subj: Re: deleting os2? From: "/2 User" >On Fri, 29 Oct 1999 14:01:53 GMT, chary wrote: > >>This question is about deleting some files which apparently are os2 (archive? >>drivers?) on a four year old IBM pc. Hopefully somebody here will be able to >>help out, since I didn't get any replies on the IBM pc group. >> Maybe you should get your friend to install it first, he may have never seen the power of OS/2? ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "I tend to stay away from the Advocacy groups to avoid the WindTrolls" ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Global Network Services - Remote Access Mail & Ne (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +============================================================================+