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From: [e-mail]                      10-Sep-99 19:13:29
  To: All                                               11-Sep-99 04:50:25
Subj: Re: IBM Anti Virus

From: [e-mail]      (John Thompson)

In <37d8f2fe$1$obot$[e-mail]>, Bob Germer
<[e-mail]> writes:

>Oh, I got the same treatment, but I was more persistent. I finally got
>through to a live human being. Here in a nutshell is the gist of the
>conversation:
>
>One must buy the "Enterprise" CD which contains NAV for OS/2 as well as
>for NT, Win95, Win98, DOS, MAC, and some others. Plus one must also buy
>site licenses for a MINIMUM of 10 users. One can only buy those items from
>a reseller. A reseller must contact a "Symantec Specialist" at Ingram to
>get the part number and order the software and license. THEN, and ONLY
>then will Symantec ship the product to Ingram which in turn will ship to
>the reseller.

Keep trying.  Symantec sent me the "Enterprise" CD for free
after I provided proof of ownership for IBMAV; they didn't even
charge me for shipping so I know it is possible.

-John ([e-mail])

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From: [e-mail]                            11-Sep-99 01:01:16
  To: All                                               11-Sep-99 04:50:25
Subj: Re: Recommended PCMCIA modem and 10/100 ethernet?

From: "Esko Kauppinen" <[e-mail]>

On Fri, 10 Sep 1999 13:12:57 GMT, John Thompson wrote:

>Although my Home & Away card can also be removed and reinserted
>and still have ethernet work, I find that the modem function is
>lost if the machine (Compaq Contura Aero) goes into suspend mode.
>When I resume the machine after a suspend, I must remove and
>reinsert the card to get ethernet to work again, but modem will
>only return after a reboot.  This is not the case if I hard-code
>an IRQ for the modem to  use, but then ethernet does not work at
>all.  So its nice, but could be better...

I had the same problem with my Xircom modem and Compaq LTE5400
but then I found from the bios a setting to keep the PCMCIA slot
powered during suspend.

After selecting that the modem wakes up with the computer OK.

Ciao / Esko




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From: [e-mail]                                10-Sep-99 18:21:10
  To: All                                               11-Sep-99 04:50:26
Subj: i need driver for a at&t 56k winmodem

From: "lucifier" <[e-mail]>

i need to find a driver for a 56k at&t winmodem ?
email me at [e-mail] if anyone can point me in the right
direction.
thanks chris fritz




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From: [e-mail]                10-Sep-99 23:01:04
  To: All                                               11-Sep-99 04:50:26
Subj: i need driver for a at&t 56k winmodem

From: [e-mail]

Hello "lucifier".

10 Sep 99 18:21, "lucifier" <[e-mail]> wrote to All:


 lc> i need to find a driver for a 56k at&t winmodem ?
 lc> email me at [e-mail] if anyone can point me in the
 right
 lc> direction.
 lc> thanks chris fritz

There is a beta driver for "winmodems" on www.os2ss.com, I saw it
 about 3 weeks ago.

Whether it works or not is another matter.  Personally I would get a
 real modem, you will always have problems with "Win-Hardware".




Derek


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From: askbill*AT*ibm.net                                11-Sep-99 11:13:17
  To: All                                               11-Sep-99 04:50:26
Subj: OS/2 User "Enterprise" - Was "IBM Anti Virus"

From: askbill*AT*ibm.net

Fellow-travelers,

-  methinks there is the germ here of an idea sound enough to save each of
us enough money to become self-sustaining:

In <SKfw30zmCGmZ-pn2-kSgGZJizkSJo@localhost>, on 09/10/99
   at 08:28 PM, doug.bissett"at"ibm.net (Doug Bissett) said:

>On Fri, 10 Sep 1999 12:00:49, Bob Germer <[e-mail]>
>wrote:

>> The second solution would be for a group of users, SOHO's, etc. to form a
>> non-profit corporation, pool our money, and buy one copy of the software
>> and the requisite licenses. This is afterall an "enterprise" CD with
>> server versions, etc. as well as workstation versions. I was informed that
>> the user licenses were not based on a physical site, but on the total
>> number of licenses an enterprise wanted for its total number of
>> workstations, servers, etc.  they wished to protect.
>>
>> This would reduce the cost of each copy to around $75 per copy. The site
>> license is $39. The cost of copying the CD and shipping one each would
>> raise the end user price to $75 or so after adding the distributed cost of
>> forming a non-profit company, opening a bank account, etc.
>>

I think this is a damn good idea, and certainly the most polite message
Bob has posted this week!

>I support whatever you think is best.

>I am beginning to think that *WE*, the OS/2 user's, could be an
>"ENTERPRISE". If we ALL pool our dollars (invest $80 in the  "company"),
>we could buy a single copy, with a few thousand licences  (should be even
>cheaper than $80). All that would be required, is to  set up a site with
>the original disk, available on a FTP server  (password protected, so you
>need to pay your bucks to become a part of the "enterprise"). I suspect
>that there would be some legal thing to  prevent that, but it might be
>worth investigating.

It need not be limited to IBMAV.  Not by a long shot!

Are not one or more of the existing OS/2 user group / clubs already large
enough and well-organized enough to serve as a nucleus for such a venture?

>Perhaps BMT micro,  or IB would take that on (IB
>already sells site licenses etc.).

Personally, I would not want to see either of these houses lose  scarce
OS/2 business to a non-profit, nor would handling money or  charge-cards
be less than a serious pain for a non-profit organization. Long-term they
need to stay healthy for the benefit of us all.

But how about a "hybrid"?  The "enterprise" core being either an
expansion of an existing OS/2 user-group, or a new purpose-built one, that
in turn solicited volume-discounts on an open-bid basis? The "winning"
vendor on each case then taking direct orders  against a look-up table of
members-in-good-standing so that the "club" did not have to handle charge
cards, etc. for individual purchases.

The USA, for one, has had a long (and, truthfully, mixed) history of
"shoppers clubs", etc.  - but those of us who remain OS/2  users may be  a
bit more motivated than most - especially as the "product" can be  made
easily available over the 'net.

> After  all, even IBM wouldn't buy more
>than one copy of the CD (well, they  might, but they shouldn't), and
>would just make it available on their  intranet for all who need it.

FWIW, IBM probably retained perpetual rights for internal use......

>It might also be possible to do the same thing with OS/2 itself, after
>all, IBM is only interested in selling, and supporting, large
>"enterprises", and a few thousand user's would be as big as any
>"enterprise". (A COMMON share, gets you access to NAV, a PREFERED  share
>gets you access to OS/2, or something like that). All you would  need is
>a set of install disks that would get you connected to the  internet, and
>do a CID install of OS/2.

Now you are talking!  Given even a 10% sign-up of OS/2 users, the "group"
would be larger than many of IBM's current clients.  OTOH - it would
probably *spend* less (lacking RS-6000, AS-400, on-site support contracts,
etc.)

We SO/2 users are a frugal lot.

Countering that - many of the members are likely to be themselves
consultants, IS/IT professionals, or company executives with a bit of
peripheral clout.  One would expect a buyers group to have a bit more
clout with IBM than a pure users group, simply because money is involved -
IBM's internal programming language of choice.

>I am sure that the technical details can be worked out (the legal
>details might be more difficult). There are a LOT of very knowledgable
>people in the OS/2 community. (Then again, why limit this to just the
>OS/2 community, the more site licences we can get, the lower the cost
>should be, and the software is already on the CD).

The legal details are not difficult.  There is a lot of precedence.

A not-for-profit coop or confederation of users/consultants/developers
might also be seen as having a more legitimate legal and business
rationale for existence than a pure buyers club.  Goals might be simply to
further the spread and development of OS/2.  Again - there are clubs with
a history who have the right sort of articles of incorporation, etc.
already up and running. Clone, anyone?

For our part, we are not based in the US, but could put a VAT-registered
UK / EC  limited corporation OR a Hong Kong counterpart, at the service of
such an enterprise in about one week, and cheaply so.

Others, I am sure can do the same or better in the U.S.

>A great name for the company, would be "The Starship Enterprise", but  I
>am sure that there would be legal problems with that <g>.

How about "The Enterprise Ship Star"?  - presuming very fast downloads!

>Perhaps. we can use IBM's, and Symantec's, lack of cooperation to nail
>them to the wall <g>...

- Don't care about **them** being nailed to a wall. Life is too short,
etc.

- **Do**  care about having __our backs to a wall__ if the decline in
software availability continues!

Most of what we do with OS/2 here simply CANNOT be done at all with NT,
and is painful with *NIX.

>******************************
>From the PC of Doug Bissett
>doug.bissett at ibm.net
>The " at " must be changed to "@"
>******************************

Thanks, Doug and Bob!

Bill Hacker
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Conducive Group (Asia) Limited    - Hong Kong
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From: [e-mail]                             11-Sep-99 03:50:21
  To: All                                               11-Sep-99 04:50:26
Subj: Re: I couldn't take it any longer...is Actiontec

From: Dave Skinner <[e-mail]>

I have no familiarity with Actiontec but I seem to recall others
complaining of problems with PCI modems.  Though I can't say for
sure that you will have problems, I would return it and opt for
the external if it's only $30 more.  My 3Com internal ISA works
great but I wish I had bought the external model. Those LEDs
really do provide helpful information. I'll never buy another
internal.

[e-mail] wrote:
>
> Well, I got impatient and frustrated and went ahead and ordered the
> Actiontec v.90 pci controller-based modem.  I read somewhere that
> this is the same as the ibm inside, but has a call waiting option.
> Advertises os/2 compatibility.
>
> It figures that I am reading all your advice now, after I ordered it...
(sigh)
>
> But I've heard good things about this modem.  Do any of you have one?
> Do you all think it will work with the P60, Warp 3.0, fp40?  The reason
> I am asking this is that I cannot return it once it has been opened .
>
> they have an internal for about $30 more with the shipping.  SHould I
> return the pci without trying it and get the external?
>
> Thanks for all the advice I appreciate it.  My connection has been so
> slow lately especially with left over line noise from Hurricane Dennis
> that sometimes it takes 15 minutes+ for 5 small emails to download.
> Thus I haven't been able to check messages every day....
>
> Thanks for the help
>
> Paul.
>
> In <[e-mail]>, Dave Skinner <[e-mail]>
writes:
> >I'm having great results with my 3Com (USR) 56K voice/fax
> >internal (ISA) which is, I think, a Sportster model 0461.  Yes,
> >it's plug 'n pray but it worked on my Pentium 90 PCI Warp 3.0
> >system right out of the box, no messing with the jumpers.  All
> >the bundled software works fine under Win-OS2.
> >
> >IS the extra cost of a 3Com (USR) worth it?  IMHO, yes.  I
> >consistently connect at 50K or better whereas other modems I've
> >used here on the same line do not do as well.  Maybe it's because
> >my ISP uses 3Com too?
> >
> >[e-mail] wrote:
> >>
> >>  Hi,
> >>
> >>  My ISP upgraded to V.90 and now my old Supra 14.4 faxmodem
> >>  can only connect at 2400. Ouch.
> >>
> >>  Can anyone tell me what v.90 modem will work with my system?
> >>
> >>  I have a Pentium 60 PCI.  I have Warp 3.0 with fixpack 40.
> >>
> >>  I am looking at inexpensive ones like Diamond Supra max 56k int,
> >>  Zoom 56k V90 PCI int, and similar from Motorola, Phoebe, etc...
> >>
> >>  If anyone uses any of these with a setup similar to mine, I'd
> >>  appreciate hearing about it.  Also, any other suggestions
> >>  would be welcome.  Some day I will get a new computer, but
> >>  for now, I am stuck with this beast.
> >>
> >>  Please email responses to [e-mail].
> >>
> >>  Thanks alot.  I truly appreciate it.
> >>
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From: [e-mail]                                 11-Sep-99 01:25:07
  To: All                                               11-Sep-99 10:18:22
Subj: Re: IBM Anti Virus

From: [e-mail] (Richard Steiner)

Here in comp.os.os2.misc, doug.bissett"at"ibm.net (Doug Bissett)
spake unto us, saying:

>I am beginning to think that *WE*, the OS/2 user's, could be an
>"ENTERPRISE". If we ALL pool our dollars (invest $80 in the
>"company"), we could buy a single copy, with a few thousand licences
>(should be even cheaper than $80).

Hmmm...  This is a very interesting idea.

--
   -Rich Steiner  >>>--->  [e-mail]  >>>---> Bloomington, MN
     OS/2 + Linux + BeOS + FreeBSD + Solaris + WinNT4 + Win95 + DOS
      + VMWare + Fusion + vMac + Executor = PC Hobbyist Heaven! :-)
                 Dyslexic atheists don't believe in Dog.

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From: [e-mail]                                   10-Sep-99 22:00:01
  To: All                                               11-Sep-99 10:18:23
Subj: PCI USB I/O Card Can't find Com Port

From: John Twelker <[e-mail]>

Aloha from Maui,

I've just installed a PCI USB I/O CARD with VIA chipset which supports
the current
UCHI Host Controller 1.1 standard in an effort to get around my ALi
motherboard chipset
limitation of supporting only the early OCHI Host Controller 1.0a
standard. This time, the
OS/2 USB device drivers installed and loaded without error ... which of
course,
they wouldn't do before with only the ALi chipset. That's the good news.

However, none of the devices I've tried (AGFA e-Photo or 3COM USR
External
Modem 5605) can find Com port. That's the bad news. Is there something
I've forgotten to do?

Thanks in advance and if you could copy to my email as well, I'd
appreciate it.

Aloha,
John Twelker


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From: [e-mail]                     11-Sep-99 12:23:02
  To: All                                               11-Sep-99 20:32:13
Subj: Re: PCI USB I/O Card Can't find Com Port

From: Phillip Davenport <[e-mail]>

John Twelker <[e-mail]> wrote:

> I've just installed a PCI USB I/O CARD with VIA chipset which supports
> the current
> UCHI Host Controller 1.1 standard in an effort to get around my ALi
> motherboard chipset
> limitation of supporting only the early OCHI Host Controller 1.0a
> standard. This time, the
> OS/2 USB device drivers installed and loaded without error ... which of
> course,
> they wouldn't do before with only the ALi chipset. That's the good news.

> However, none of the devices I've tried (AGFA e-Photo or 3COM USR
> External
> Modem 5605) can find Com port..

Need the USB Com Port drivers -
</ftp://ftp.software.ibm.com/ps/products/os2/os2ddpak/usbcomm.exe/>

  p

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From: [e-mail]                      11-Sep-99 15:43:20
  To: All                                               11-Sep-99 20:32:14
Subj: Re: IBM Anti Virus

From: Martin Nisshagen <[e-mail]>

doug.bissett at ibm.net [Global Network Services - Remote Access Mail & News
Services] -> comp.os.os2.misc:

» I am beginning to think that *WE*, the OS/2 user's, could be an
» "ENTERPRISE". If we ALL pool our dollars (invest $80 in the
» "company"), we could buy a single copy, with a few thousand licences
» (should be even cheaper than $80). All that would be required, is to
» set up a site with the original disk, available on a FTP server
» (password protected, so you need to pay your bucks to become a part of

[ snip ]

» It might also be possible to do the same thing with OS/2 itself, after
» all, IBM is only interested in selling, and supporting, large
» "enterprises", and a few thousand user's would be as big as any

I think this could be a very good solution to get a new OS/2 client of WSeB.

Best regards,

m a r t i n | n

--
Martin Nisshagen                 PGP 6.0: 0x45D423AC      K R A F T W E R K
:-)
CS/CE, Chalmers, Sweden          ICQ UIN: 689662          2 x 300A @ 450 MHz
d4nisse-at-dtek-chalmers-se      home2.sbbs2.com/mn
home2.sbbs2.com/mn/kw

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From: [e-mail]                             11-Sep-99 16:23:01
  To: All                                               11-Sep-99 20:32:14
Subj: Re: Recommended PCMCIA modem and 10/100 ethernet?

From: [e-mail] (Dave Parsons)

On Fri, 10 Sep 1999 12:17:05, [e-mail] (James Knott) wrote:

>
> Xircom has a 100/10 ethernet & V.90 modem card, with OS/2 drivers.  It
> apparently also works with Linux.  The card takes two PCMCIA slots and
> has an RJ45 and two RJ11 jacks right on the card, so you don't need
> any special adapters.  It's also available from IBM.
>
> --
> E-mail [e-mail]
> _________________________________________________________________________
> The above opinions are my own and not those of ISM Corp., a subsidiary of
> IBM Canada Ltd.

I presume that you are referring to the Realport Ethernet 10/100+Modem 56.
A very tidy solution, and according to Xircom, it also supports ISDN with an
adapter.

I already have their CM33 modem card and it works well. I would now
like to upgrade to the Realport Ethernet 10/100+Modem 56, but I can not
find anyone selling them here in Germany.

Does anyone know of an end user supplier, preferably in Europe?

--
Dave

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From: [e-mail]                                     11-Sep-99 14:36:19
  To: All                                               11-Sep-99 20:32:14
Subj: Re: TCP/IP in WinOS2

From: "David D. Huff Jr." <[e-mail]>

I personally tripped over this one:
Be absolutely certain their is no semi-colon after SET ETC=c:\tcpip\dos\etc

Julian Dominic wrote:

> This used to work until I had to replace my system hard drive.  My first
> TCP/IP configuration was OS/2 2.1 with TCP/IP V2 + Dos Box.  As I upgraded
> over this TCP/IP worked fine in all environments.  When I installed a new
> hard drive and rebuilt the system to where it is today, Warp 4, Fixpak 11.
> TCP/IP in DOS WinOS2 is not recognized.  Everything seems to be set up
> correctly.
>
> My autoexec says:
> PATH=C:\OS2;C:\OS2\MDOS;C:\;C:\OS2\MDOS\WINOS2;c:\tcpip\dos\bin;
> SET ETC=c:\tcpip\dos\etc
>
> winsock.dll is in c:\tcpip\dos\bin.  It is the only one.
> The RESOLV files have entries for my DNS.
>
> What am I missing?
>
> Thanks
>
> Julian Dominic

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From: [e-mail]                                     11-Sep-99 14:38:18
  To: All                                               11-Sep-99 20:32:14
Subj: Re: TCP/IP in WinOS2

From: "David D. Huff Jr." <[e-mail]>

I personally tripped over this one:
Be absolutely certain their is no semi-colon after SET ETC=c:\tcpip\dos\etc

Julian Dominic wrote:

> This used to work until I had to replace my system hard drive.  My first
> TCP/IP configuration was OS/2 2.1 with TCP/IP V2 + Dos Box.  As I upgraded
> over this TCP/IP worked fine in all environments.  When I installed a new
> hard drive and rebuilt the system to where it is today, Warp 4, Fixpak 11.
> TCP/IP in DOS WinOS2 is not recognized.  Everything seems to be set up
> correctly.
>
> My autoexec says:
> PATH=C:\OS2;C:\OS2\MDOS;C:\;C:\OS2\MDOS\WINOS2;c:\tcpip\dos\bin;
> SET ETC=c:\tcpip\dos\etc
>
> winsock.dll is in c:\tcpip\dos\bin.  It is the only one.
> The RESOLV files have entries for my DNS.
>
> What am I missing?
>
> Thanks
>
> Julian Dominic

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From: [e-mail]                                   11-Sep-99 11:08:28
  To: All                                               12-Sep-99 03:14:19
Subj: Re: PCI USB I/O Card Can't find Com Port

From: John Twelker <[e-mail]>

Aloha Phillip,

Thanks for the suggestion. I installed both usbbasic.exe and usbcomm.exe and
config.sys shows:

BASEDEV=USBUHCD.SYS
BASEDEV=USBD.SYS /REQ:USBUHCD$
BASEDEV=USBHID.SYS
DEVICE=C:\OS2\BOOT\USBCOM.SYS

I think that should be enough, right?

There was an error message on bootup about the com port drivers ... apparently
a conflict ...so I rem out their entries on config.sys. It resolved the error
messages on bootup but it didn't help the USB problem.

It seems as if the USB device is not in contact with the com port ... one
error message reads "No connection"

Any further ideas would be appreciated!

Aloha,
 John Twelker


Phillip Davenport wrote:

> John Twelker <[e-mail]> wrote:
>
> > I've just installed a PCI USB I/O CARD with VIA chipset which supports
> > the current
> > UCHI Host Controller 1.1 standard in an effort to get around my ALi
> > motherboard chipset
> > limitation of supporting only the early OCHI Host Controller 1.0a
> > standard. This time, the
> > OS/2 USB device drivers installed and loaded without error ... which of
> > course,
> > they wouldn't do before with only the ALi chipset. That's the good news.
>
> > However, none of the devices I've tried (AGFA e-Photo or 3COM USR
> > External
> > Modem 5605) can find Com port..
>
> Need the USB Com Port drivers -
> </ftp://ftp.software.ibm.com/ps/products/os2/os2ddpak/usbcomm.exe/>
>
>   p

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From: [e-mail]                                   11-Sep-99 15:43:21
  To: All                                               12-Sep-99 03:14:19
Subj: Re: IBM Anti Virus

From: Kris Kadela <[e-mail]>

Where do I send the money? :)
I think this is a great idea.

Martin Nisshagen wrote:
>
> doug.bissett at ibm.net [Global Network Services - Remote Access Mail & News
> Services] -> comp.os.os2.misc:
>
> » I am beginning to think that *WE*, the OS/2 user's, could be an
> » "ENTERPRISE". If we ALL pool our dollars (invest $80 in the
> » "company"), we could buy a single copy, with a few thousand licences
> » (should be even cheaper than $80). All that would be required, is to
> » set up a site with the original disk, available on a FTP server
> » (password protected, so you need to pay your bucks to become a part of
>
> [ snip ]
>
> » It might also be possible to do the same thing with OS/2 itself, after
> » all, IBM is only interested in selling, and supporting, large
> » "enterprises", and a few thousand user's would be as big as any
>
> I think this could be a very good solution to get a new OS/2 client of WSeB.
>
> Best regards,
>
> m a r t i n | n
>
> --
> Martin Nisshagen                 PGP 6.0: 0x45D423AC      K R A F T W E R K
:-)
> CS/CE, Chalmers, Sweden          ICQ UIN: 689662          2 x 300A @ 450 MHz
> d4nisse-at-dtek-chalmers-se      home2.sbbs2.com/mn
home2.sbbs2.com/mn/kw

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From: [e-mail]                         11-Sep-99 23:15:12
  To: All                                               12-Sep-99 04:17:18
Subj: Re: IBM Anti Virus

From: [e-mail]

In <37d8f2fe$1$obot$[e-mail]>, Bob Germer
<[e-mail]> writes:
>On <9ddCdfeFk555-pn2-SdMNbMs42God@localhost>, on 09/09/99 at 11:42 PM,
>   [e-mail] (Frank Kirk) said:
>

>
>One, and the one I am leaning toward, is to file a breach of contract suit
>against Symantec based upon the press releases issued at the time they
>took over IBM's antivirus product. Possibly IBM would also have to be a
>party defendant to the suit since otherwise Symantec could claim, in
>defense, that IBM wanted them to eliminate the SOHO and individual user
>after promising support, applications, etc. for OS/2 which induced us to
>buy the OS in the first place.
>
>It would not cost nearly the price of the CD and 10 licenses for an
>individual to file a suit. If a dozen or so do it at the same time, the
>suits would be combined into a class action on behalf of all purchasers of
>OS/2.
>
My .02 -

Maybe I'm too laid back or perhaps I just don't like lawyers but...
Symantec does not want our business so why not just give our bucks to
someone that does?  Someone like pandasoftware?
  The pooled money idea is a good one though but it would still mean
supporting a company that does not want your business.


J. Pedone
[e-mail]
http://www.flash.net/~jpedone

No need for WindowsVideoAccelerator, get OS/2.
Advanced design: Upper management doesn't understand it.

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From: [e-mail]                           12-Sep-99 06:51:16
  To: All                                               12-Sep-99 14:38:15
Subj: Re: IBM Anti Virus

From: Bob Germer <[e-mail]>

On <SKfw30zmCGmZ-pn2-kSgGZJizkSJo@localhost>, on 09/10/99 at 08:28 PM,
   doug.bissett"at"ibm.net (Doug Bissett) said:

> > This would reduce the cost of each copy to around $75 per copy. The site
> > license is $39. The cost of copying the CD and shipping one each would
> > raise the end user price to $75 or so after adding the distributed cost of
> > forming a non-profit company, opening a bank account, etc.
> >

> I support whatever you think is best.

Thanks.

> I am beginning to think that *WE*, the OS/2 user's, could be an
> "ENTERPRISE". If we ALL pool our dollars (invest $80 in the  "company"),
> we could buy a single copy, with a few thousand licences  (should be
> even cheaper than $80). All that would be required, is to  set up a site
> with the original disk, available on a FTP server  (password protected,
> so you need to pay your bucks to become a part of the "enterprise"). I
> suspect that there would be some legal thing to  prevent that, but it
> might be worth investigating. Perhaps BMT micro,  or IB would take that
> on (IB already sells site licenses etc.). After  all, even IBM wouldn't
> buy more than one copy of the CD (well, they  might, but they
> shouldn't), and would just make it available on their  intranet for all
> who need it.

> It might also be possible to do the same thing with OS/2 itself, after
> all, IBM is only interested in selling, and supporting, large
> "enterprises", and a few thousand user's would be as big as any
> "enterprise". (A COMMON share, gets you access to NAV, a PREFERED  share
> gets you access to OS/2, or something like that). All you would  need is
> a set of install disks that would get you connected to the  internet,
> and do a CID install of OS/2.

The idea has merit but also some problems. If done this way, it would be
very public and might arouse a suit against the enterprise, especially if
the enterprise also started selling Warp or tried to force IBM to update
Warp. Also, there are possible tax ramifications if it becomes successful.
With my basic idea, a small charitable non-profit corporation would be
much less likely to be the target of legal action by Symantec.

Also, an internet install of Warp would take a VERY long time on line.

> I am sure that the technical details can be worked out (the legal
> details might be more difficult). There are a LOT of very knowledgable
> people in the OS/2 community. (Then again, why limit this to just the
> OS/2 community, the more site licences we can get, the lower the cost
> should be, and the software is already on the CD).

Now the possibility of tax and legal ramifications really comes to the
fore. As far as NAV is concerned, a Microslop user needs pay less than $30
for his very own copy.

> A great name for the company, would be "The Starship Enterprise", but  I
> am sure that there would be legal problems with that <g>.

For sure that would cause trouble. How about GFYS, Inc. The S is for
Symantec, the rest you can figure out for yourself. <GRIN>


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Proudly running OS/2 Warp 4.0 w/ FixPack 8
MR/2 Ice Registration Number 67
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From: [e-mail]                           12-Sep-99 07:00:07
  To: All                                               12-Sep-99 14:38:15
Subj: Re: IBM Anti Virus

From: Bob Germer <[e-mail]>

On <c1.2c.2S7rGZ$1QC@rhino_house.ibm.net>, on 09/10/99 at 07:13 PM,
   [e-mail]      (John Thompson) said:

> In <37d8f2fe$1$obot$[e-mail]>, Bob Germer
> <[e-mail]> writes:

> Keep trying.  Symantec sent me the "Enterprise" CD for free  after I
> provided proof of ownership for IBMAV; they didn't even charge me for
> shipping so I know it is possible.

Two problems with this:

1. Those who want NAV and who didn't buy IBMAV are left out in the cold.

2. Those who did buy IBMAV years ago and cannot find the manual or
software are similarly out in the cold.

I fall into the second category. I used it for a couple of years before I
took down my BBS. I then felt it wasn't worth the overhead and stopped
using it. Then I moved my office and either discarded it along with
cartons (not boxes, big cartons) of "obsolete" software. Remember in the
good old days, programs came with real manuals frequently in slipcases. I
had multiple copies of every version of WordPerfect, Quatro Pro, DB2,
SuperKey, QEMM, Double DOS, PC-DOS 3.x, 4.x, 5.x, 6.x, etc. I discarded 5
copies of OS/2 1.2, 5 of 1.3 enterprise, not to mention PCAnywhere,
Fastback Plus, Norton Utilities, etc., etc. Then there were the shareware
manuals for the BBS which filled more than 6 boxes which originally
contained 10 reams of paper each.

There is also the possibility that I  gave the software to a former
son-in-law who worked for me at one time. He did get one of my OS/2 Warp 4
packages since I only needed 3 when I moved and owned 7 and was still
married to one of my daughters. We had  six workstation machines and a
server at one time but now only run 4 with no server thanks to the
peer-to-peer networking of Lantastic which eliminated Novell (that I did
keep). If that's where it went, it's long gone since he's in prison.



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Proudly running OS/2 Warp 4.0 w/ FixPack 8
MR/2 Ice Registration Number 67
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From: [e-mail]                                    12-Sep-99 10:04:26
  To: All                                               12-Sep-99 14:38:15
Subj: Re: IBM Anti Virus

From: "Mitch Rocks" <[e-mail]>

> On <SKfw30zmCGmZ-pn2-kSgGZJizkSJo@localhost>, on 09/10/99 at 08:28 PM,
>    doug.bissett"at"ibm.net (Doug Bissett) said:

 > I am beginning to think that *WE*, the OS/2 user's, could be an
 > "ENTERPRISE".

You are an Enterprise. Got a woody, Doug?  hah hah hah


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From: [e-mail]                                    12-Sep-99 08:34:14
  To: All                                               12-Sep-99 14:38:16
Subj: Re: Recommended PCMCIA modem and 10/100 ethernet?

From: [e-mail] (James Knott)

In article <[e-mail]>,
[e-mail] (Dave Parsons) wrote:
>On Fri, 10 Sep 1999 12:17:05, [e-mail] (James Knott) wrote:
>
>>
>> Xircom has a 100/10 ethernet & V.90 modem card, with OS/2 drivers.  It
>> apparently also works with Linux.  The card takes two PCMCIA slots and
>> has an RJ45 and two RJ11 jacks right on the card, so you don't need
>> any special adapters.  It's also available from IBM.

>I presume that you are referring to the Realport Ethernet
10/100+Modem 56.
>A very tidy solution, and according to Xircom, it also supports ISDN with an
>adapter.
>
>I already have their CM33 modem card and it works well. I would now
>like to upgrade to the Realport Ethernet 10/100+Modem 56, but I can not
>find anyone selling them here in Germany.
>
>Does anyone know of an end user supplier, preferably in Europe?

As I mentioned, IBM also sells that model.  You might try them.  I
don't have the part number handy.


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_________________________________________________________________________
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From: doug.bissett"at"ibm.net                           12-Sep-99 15:18:21
  To: All                                               12-Sep-99 14:38:16
Subj: Re: IBM Anti Virus

From: doug.bissett"at"ibm.net (Doug Bissett)

On Sun, 12 Sep 1999 06:51:32 -0400, Bob Germer wrote:

..snip...
>The idea has merit but also some problems. If done this way, it would
be
>very public and might arouse a suit against the enterprise,
especially if
>the enterprise also started selling Warp or tried to force IBM to
update
>Warp. Also, there are possible tax ramifications if it becomes
successful.
>With my basic idea, a small charitable non-profit corporation would
be
>much less likely to be the target of legal action by Symantec.

Yes, there are problems, but I think the technical problems could be
overcome quite easily.  One would need a password protected secure web
site (128 bit), and passwords on all of the products. Someone, like
BMT
micro, could sell the licenses, and supply the appropriate passwords
(just about what they are doing now). The actual download, and
install,
could use the CID method, after a user downloaded a basic set of
bootable diskettes, which would have enough code to get them connected
to the server.

There is a user
-----------------------------------------------------------
[e-mail]
William B. Hacker, III
Conducive Group (Asia) Limited    - Hong Kong
Conducive Logistics (EU) Limited   - London
-----------------------------------------------------------
who indicates that he doesn't think the legal problems would be all
that bad. The other problem would be that IBM (for sure), and
Symantec,
would want a short list of "support" people who would be authorized to
talk to their support people, and who would support the rest of the
enterprise. This could be a problem, especially if multiple languages
are supported, which would be required for world wide support.

>Also, an internet install of Warp would take a VERY long time on
line.

It wouldn't be all that bad over a LAN connection, or with a cable
modem, but it would take forever at 28.8K. I suspect that the actual
OS/2 thing might be something that could happen in the future.
Starting
with NAV, to prove the technique and to set a precedent, would be the
way to go. Then working up to other things as the technology, and the
resources become available, would be a good idea. In fact, it might be
better to start with some other program(s), from friendly companies,
just to set the precedent.

..snip...
>Now the possibility of tax and legal ramifications really comes to
the
>fore. As far as NAV is concerned, a Microslop user needs pay less
than $30
>for his very own copy.

Yes, it would be better if an OS/2 friendly company, who is already in
the software business, could do it, even for profit. The MUCH better
solution would be if Symantec (and IBM) would smarten up and just
supply their (supported) product on an individual basis.

..snip...
>For sure that would cause trouble. How about GFYS, Inc. The S is for
>Symantec, the rest you can figure out for yourself. <GRIN>

We could call it Microsoft (again, legal problems), for all I care
<g>.
As long as they support OS/2.

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>Proudly running OS/2 Warp 4.0 w/ FixPack 8
>MR/2 Ice Registration Number 67
>Aut Pax Aut Bellum
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>

******************************
From the PC of Doug Bissett
doug.bissett at ibm.net
The " at " must be changed to "@"
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From: [e-mail]                       12-Sep-99 11:19:14
  To: All                                               12-Sep-99 20:02:00
Subj: Re: Zoom 2975 PC Card Modem (w/Lucent Chipset)?

From: Edward Jaffe <[e-mail]>

Jerry Prather wrote:
>
> Yes, I've got it working on my ThinkPad 390e.  I had absolutely
> no problems installing it and getting it to work.  It needs no
> driver at all (although the PCMCIA slots need a card director
> driver to be useful for anything).  Just plug it into the slot
> and assign it to a serial port.  Adjust InJoy (in my case) for
> the settings of the modem, and you're off to the races.
>
> The secret is, the 2975 is not a WinModem; it is a _real_ modem.
> Only WinModems require drivers.  That is why they lose.

Are you *SURE* the ZOOM 2975 you are using has the Lucent chipset???
ZOOM also made a 2975 with a Rockwell chipset that works just fine
without special drivers. The Lucent ones have an "L" in the serial
number.

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From: [e-mail]                                12-Sep-99 15:35:07
  To: All                                               12-Sep-99 20:02:00
Subj: Help! Can't get PNP modem to work in OS/2 Warp 4

From: "James D Parker Jr." <[e-mail]>

I have a Creative Modem Blaster V.90 DI5660 which is a Plug N Play
modem, no way to jumper it. OS/2 seems to reconnize it because RMVIEW
/DC shows the following (extra blank lines removed):

  Detected Hardware Function: Creative Modem Blaster V.90 DI5660
  PnP Device ID: DMB2001
  PnP Compatible Device ID: none
  IRQ Level =  3  PCI Pin = NONE  Flg = EXCLUSIVE
  I/O = 0X02E8  Len =   8  Flg = EXCLUSIVE   Addr Lines = 16
  I/O = 0X0800  Len =   8  Flg = EXCLUSIVE   Addr Lines = 16

So I made my COM.SYS line in CONFIG.SYS to be (my boot drive is E:):
DEVICE=E:\OS2\BOOT\COM.SYS (3,2E8,3)

I then configured my In-Joy (1.1) dialer to use com3 but when I try to
dial all I see in the terminal window is:
[opening port]
[dialing]

After a while it pops up a message saying that it did not connect and
then retries.

What am I missing here? What am I doing wrong. The modem works fine in
Win98 which assignes it COM4/IRQ 10 according to its device manager.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks
Jim

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From: [e-mail]                           12-Sep-99 12:56:13
  To: All                                               12-Sep-99 20:02:00
Subj: Re: IBM Anti Virus

From: [e-mail]

In <c1.2b5.2S8Nxk$[e-mail]>, on 09/11/99
   at 11:15 PM, [e-mail] said:

>In <37d8f2fe$1$obot$[e-mail]>, Bob Germer
><[e-mail]> writes: >On
><9ddCdfeFk555-pn2-SdMNbMs42God@localhost>, on 09/09/99 at 11:42 PM, >
>[e-mail] (Frank Kirk) said:
>>

>>
>>One, and the one I am leaning toward, is to file a breach of contract suit
>>against Symantec based upon the press releases issued at the time they
>>took over IBM's antivirus product. Possibly IBM would also have to be a
>>party defendant to the suit since otherwise Symantec could claim, in
>>defense, that IBM wanted them to eliminate the SOHO and individual user
>>after promising support, applications, etc. for OS/2 which induced us to
>>buy the OS in the first place.
>>
>>It would not cost nearly the price of the CD and 10 licenses for an
>>individual to file a suit. If a dozen or so do it at the same time, the
>>suits would be combined into a class action on behalf of all purchasers of
>>OS/2.

I haven't been able to see the beginning of this thread, so maybe I've
missed something. Symantec has just announced it's going to include an
OS/2 client version in it's next release of the Norton  AntiVirus program.
(I saw it in Focus on OS/2 ezine). Why is everybody pissed off at
Symantec? This sounds like a positive development.

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From: [e-mail]                              12-Sep-99 21:14:28
  To: All                                               13-Sep-99 03:45:01
Subj: Re: mailer + bbs + sio

From: [e-mail] (lazydog)

forget the mailer right now, get the bbs working. By then you
will understand what to do with mailer.

Read the PCBoard docs,(x:\pcb\docs) it is very explanatory.

You should use SIO160D.ZIP.

Read the vmodem docs, also easy to understand. Don't load the
vmodem fossil in config.sys, pcboard doesn't need it. That is for
door games, some need it some don't, read the docs on how to make
control files.

Also make sure your remote.sys file is setup correctly. Located
in each node directory

If pcboard can not find the welcome screen it has nothing to with
SIO or your com port.
Run PCBSETUP and chk all paths. Also make sure the pcb directory
is in both config.sys path
and the dos autoexec.bat path.

start each node with a sep file located in each node directory,
this way you have a sep pcboard.dat file for each node.
startos2.cmd this runs of course board.cmd, of course both of
these need to be started with the PCBCP.EXE

You can run the nodes without it in full DOS 6 compatible mode
but not recommended, use PCBCP.EXE.
(PCBCP.EXE can and will screw things up sometimes it was not
100%, check make sure the node info is correct.
Make sure the usernet.xxx file is setup), hhehehehe Read the
Docs.

As for pcboard if you have both local connections and telnet
connections you must setup sep nodes for this operation, you can
not use same node for both.....i.e. node1 com 2(real port,  std
irq,hex settings)
node2 virtualcomport 4 standardIRQ/HEX settings(see vmodem docs),
vmodem will not actually use a IRQ, it just makes the DOS
application PCBoard2 think it is using a IRQ. But it still must
be a FREE IRQ. use something weird like IRQ7 or IRQ5 which ever
is free. No sound card IRQ5, no printer IRQ7 or if no print and
no sound card you can use both IRQ 5 and 7 for 2 telnet nodes.

I ran 1 node on com2/Irq4 for local callers, 2 telnet nodes one
on com1 and one on com4 using vIRQ 5 & 7 and one inter network
node(local) with no com port on a 486 DX2 50MHz 32Megs, Injoy,
Postroad Mailer 24/7.
Mouse on COM3/IRQ3

read the docs .....you might as well learn right now, read the
docs. IF you plan to run a bbs you gonna do a lot of
READING........

Two telnet nodes on one 56K V90 connection works about like a
real good 14.4 connection as far as d/l speed goes between 1400
and 1700 cps if both nodes going at one time on a 486 DX250, one
connection at a time is like a 28.8, maybe, depends on isp speed.
two telnet nodes playin door games no one will ever know there
are two people on the bbs.

try alt.bbs.pcboard
last time I looked there were a few guys left in there, but
mostly running winsux and pcboard and it truly sux as a
combination.


......Seth

Harvey's, Home of The LazyDOG! (Named after a Saint Bernard,
Harvey, Died July 93)
PCBoard BBS - OS/2 Registered Owner
v15.3/5 Nodes - ANSI - 100% Rip v1.53 & v2.0 GUI Interface
Too Many Door Games - 21 CD's/16 Gigs HD Space
Ilink - UniNet/Echo Mail - Private E-Mail routed through PCB EXEC
BBS
October 1993 - November 1997



In message <GED37D723E5@kozzy%NOSPAMastercity.net> -
[e-mail] (Michal Koslinski) writes:
:>
:>
:>Hi!
:>
:>I have problem with setting up t-mail2, pcboard2 and sio v1.60.
:>
:>I want to setup mailer and bbs useing vmodem, to be accessable trought
:>tcpip. Mailer answers, pcboard (i tryed maximus also) loads, and i get
:>response from pcb "carrier lost" (max says it unalbe to open com port).
:>
:>Than I tryed sio2k with success. PCBoard did not drop carrier but it
:>couldn't find some files (?!?) like WELCOME screen or main menu screen.
:>Now I know that I need to set sharring virtual com port at my sio v1.60 or
:>somewhere else, but I do not know how. Can you help me?
:>
:>The problem I described OLNY appears when I try to establish connectio
:>trought virtual com port usering vmodem. There is no single problem with
:>makeing connection trought ordinary telephone line.
:>
:>!<ozzy
:>
:>* email: [e-mail]
:>* fidonet: 2:480/91
:>* running on OS/2 Warp4
:>




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From: [e-mail]                                  12-Sep-99 21:15:11
  To: All                                               13-Sep-99 03:45:01
Subj: Re: Zoom 2975 PC Card Modem (w/Lucent Chipset)?

From: [e-mail] (Jerry Prather)

In message <[e-mail]> - Edward Jaffe
<[e-mail]>Sun, 12 Sep 1999 11:19:28 -0700
writes:
:>
:>Jerry Prather wrote:
:>>
:>> Yes, I've got it working on my ThinkPad 390e.  I had absolutely
:>> no problems installing it and getting it to work.  It needs no
:>> driver at all (although the PCMCIA slots need a card director
:>> driver to be useful for anything).  Just plug it into the slot
:>> and assign it to a serial port.  Adjust InJoy (in my case) for
:>> the settings of the modem, and you're off to the races.
:>>
:>> The secret is, the 2975 is not a WinModem; it is a _real_ modem.
:>> Only WinModems require drivers.  That is why they lose.
:>
:>Are you *SURE* the ZOOM 2975 you are using has the Lucent chipset???
:>ZOOM also made a 2975 with a Rockwell chipset that works just fine
:>without special drivers. The Lucent ones have an "L" in the serial
:>number.

I can't find a serial number, but the card says Model 2975L.
Besides, the outer carton it came in said it had a Lucent chipset
(whatever that's worth <shrug>).  The internal modem on the 390
_is_ a WinModem Lucent chipset.  That's why I bought the 2975.


Jerry Prather                    [e-mail]

"Many religions are worth dying for; no religion is worth killing
for."
                    - Me (circa 1998)

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From: [e-mail]                                     12-Sep-99 21:29:02
  To: All                                               13-Sep-99 03:45:01
Subj: Re: Help! Can't get PNP modem to work in OS/2 Warp 4

From: [e-mail] (Brian Davis)

On Sun, 12 Sep 1999 19:35:15, "James D Parker Jr." <[e-mail]>
wrote:

> I have a Creative Modem Blaster V.90 DI5660 which is a Plug N Play
> modem, no way to jumper it. OS/2 seems to reconnize it because RMVIEW
> /DC shows the following (extra blank lines removed):
>
>   Detected Hardware Function: Creative Modem Blaster V.90 DI5660
>   PnP Device ID: DMB2001
>   PnP Compatible Device ID: none
>   IRQ Level =  3  PCI Pin = NONE  Flg = EXCLUSIVE
>   I/O = 0X02E8  Len =   8  Flg = EXCLUSIVE   Addr Lines = 16
>   I/O = 0X0800  Len =   8  Flg = EXCLUSIVE   Addr Lines = 16
>
> So I made my COM.SYS line in CONFIG.SYS to be (my boot drive is E:):
> DEVICE=E:\OS2\BOOT\COM.SYS (3,2E8,3)
>
> I then configured my In-Joy (1.1) dialer to use com3 but when I try to
> dial all I see in the terminal window is:
> [opening port]
> [dialing]
>
> After a while it pops up a message saying that it did not connect and
> then retries.
>
> What am I missing here? What am I doing wrong. The modem works fine in
> Win98 which assignes it COM4/IRQ 10 according to its device manager.
>
> Any help would be greatly appreciated.
>
> Thanks
> Jim
>
Have you tried DEVICE=E:\OS2\BOOT\COM.SYS (2,2E8,3)


Brian Davis ([e-mail])

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From: [e-mail]                          12-Sep-99 23:23:02
  To: All                                               13-Sep-99 03:45:01
Subj: Re: Help! Can't get PNP modem to work in OS/2 Warp 4

From: [e-mail] ()

Edit your com.sys line to reflect where Win98 believes your modem to be,
rather than where RMVIEW believes it to be.

Then reboot and at the Boot Blob do an alt-f1 to bring up the recovery
menu, followed by alt-f6 to *DISABLE* OS/2's hardware detection.
Generally, once Warp's hardware detection is disabled, these missing PnP
modems suddenly reappear, if com.sys (or sio.sys) has been edited
correctly in the config.sys

--Kevin



On Sun, 12 Sep 1999 15:35:15 -0400, James D Parker Jr. <[e-mail]>
 wrote:
>I have a Creative Modem Blaster V.90 DI5660 which is a Plug N Play
>modem, no way to jumper it. OS/2 seems to reconnize it because RMVIEW
>/DC shows the following (extra blank lines removed):
>
>  Detected Hardware Function: Creative Modem Blaster V.90 DI5660
>  PnP Device ID: DMB2001
>  PnP Compatible Device ID: none
>  IRQ Level =  3  PCI Pin = NONE  Flg = EXCLUSIVE
>  I/O = 0X02E8  Len =   8  Flg = EXCLUSIVE   Addr Lines = 16
>  I/O = 0X0800  Len =   8  Flg = EXCLUSIVE   Addr Lines = 16
>
>So I made my COM.SYS line in CONFIG.SYS to be (my boot drive is E:):
>DEVICE=E:\OS2\BOOT\COM.SYS (3,2E8,3)
>
>I then configured my In-Joy (1.1) dialer to use com3 but when I try to
>dial all I see in the terminal window is:
>[opening port]
>[dialing]
>
>After a while it pops up a message saying that it did not connect and
>then retries.
>
>What am I missing here? What am I doing wrong. The modem works fine in
>Win98 which assignes it COM4/IRQ 10 according to its device manager.
>
>Any help would be greatly appreciated.
>
>Thanks
>Jim
>

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From: [e-mail]                                  12-Sep-99 20:35:22
  To: All                                               13-Sep-99 03:45:01
Subj: Re: Help! Can't get PNP modem to work in OS/2 Warp 4

From: [e-mail]

In <[e-mail]>, on 09/12/99 at 03:35 PM,
   "James D Parker Jr." <[e-mail]> said:

>I have a Creative Modem Blaster V.90 DI5660 which is a Plug N Play modem,
>no way to jumper it. OS/2 seems to reconnize it because RMVIEW /DC shows
>the following (extra blank lines removed):

>  Detected Hardware Function: Creative Modem Blaster V.90 DI5660
>  PnP Device ID: DMB2001
>  PnP Compatible Device ID: none
>  IRQ Level =  3  PCI Pin = NONE  Flg = EXCLUSIVE
>  I/O = 0X02E8  Len =   8  Flg = EXCLUSIVE   Addr Lines = 16
>  I/O = 0X0800  Len =   8  Flg = EXCLUSIVE   Addr Lines = 16

>So I made my COM.SYS line in CONFIG.SYS to be (my boot drive is E:):
>DEVICE=E:\OS2\BOOT\COM.SYS (3,2E8,3)

>I then configured my In-Joy (1.1) dialer to use com3 but when I try to
>dial all I see in the terminal window is:
>[opening port]
>[dialing]

>After a while it pops up a message saying that it did not connect and
>then retries.

>What am I missing here? What am I doing wrong. The modem works fine in
>Win98 which assignes it COM4/IRQ 10 according to its device manager.

>Any help would be greatly appreciated.

>Thanks
>Jim

You may want to check out this reference and see if you have missed
anything:
http://www.diamondmm.com/products/faxback/communications/1331.html

These are basically instructions for installing a PNP modem in warp4.  The
only question I have for you is did you check to see that hardware was
enabled.

--
----------------------------------------------------
------
Monroe Chasson
[e-mail]
-----------------------------------------------------------
MR2ICE reg#51

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From: [e-mail]                                12-Sep-99 22:33:08
  To: All                                               13-Sep-99 05:47:24
Subj: Re: Help! Can't get PNP modem to work in OS/2 Warp 4

From: "James D Parker Jr." <[e-mail]>

Brian Davis wrote:

> On Sun, 12 Sep 1999 19:35:15, "James D Parker Jr." <[e-mail]>
> wrote:
>
> > I have a Creative Modem Blaster V.90 DI5660 which is a Plug N Play
> > modem, no way to jumper it. OS/2 seems to reconnize it because RMVIEW
> > /DC shows the following (extra blank lines removed):
> >
> >   Detected Hardware Function: Creative Modem Blaster V.90 DI5660
> >   PnP Device ID: DMB2001
> >   PnP Compatible Device ID: none
> >   IRQ Level =  3  PCI Pin = NONE  Flg = EXCLUSIVE
> >   I/O = 0X02E8  Len =   8  Flg = EXCLUSIVE   Addr Lines = 16
> >   I/O = 0X0800  Len =   8  Flg = EXCLUSIVE   Addr Lines = 16
> >
> > So I made my COM.SYS line in CONFIG.SYS to be (my boot drive is E:):
> > DEVICE=E:\OS2\BOOT\COM.SYS (3,2E8,3)
> >
> > I then configured my In-Joy (1.1) dialer to use com3 but when I try to
> > dial all I see in the terminal window is:
> > [opening port]
> > [dialing]
> >
> > After a while it pops up a message saying that it did not connect and
> > then retries.
> >
> > What am I missing here? What am I doing wrong. The modem works fine in
> > Win98 which assignes it COM4/IRQ 10 according to its device manager.
> >
> > Any help would be greatly appreciated.
> >
> > Thanks
> > Jim
> >
> Have you tried DEVICE=E:\OS2\BOOT\COM.SYS (2,2E8,3)
>
> Brian Davis ([e-mail])

Yes, I tried that. Still get same results :-{

Thanks
Jim


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From: [e-mail]                                12-Sep-99 22:35:20
  To: All                                               13-Sep-99 05:47:24
Subj: Re: Help! Can't get PNP modem to work in OS/2 Warp 4

From: "James D Parker Jr." <[e-mail]>

I tried that. Still get same results. :-{

BTW, atl-f1 is followed by f6 not alt-f6.

Thanks
Jim

[e-mail] wrote:

> Edit your com.sys line to reflect where Win98 believes your modem to be,
> rather than where RMVIEW believes it to be.
>
> Then reboot and at the Boot Blob do an alt-f1 to bring up the recovery
> menu, followed by alt-f6 to *DISABLE* OS/2's hardware detection.
> Generally, once Warp's hardware detection is disabled, these missing PnP
> modems suddenly reappear, if com.sys (or sio.sys) has been edited
> correctly in the config.sys
>
> --Kevin
>
> On Sun, 12 Sep 1999 15:35:15 -0400, James D Parker Jr. <[e-mail]>
>  wrote:
> >I have a Creative Modem Blaster V.90 DI5660 which is a Plug N Play
> >modem, no way to jumper it. OS/2 seems to reconnize it because RMVIEW
> >/DC shows the following (extra blank lines removed):
> >
> >  Detected Hardware Function: Creative Modem Blaster V.90 DI5660
> >  PnP Device ID: DMB2001
> >  PnP Compatible Device ID: none
> >  IRQ Level =  3  PCI Pin = NONE  Flg = EXCLUSIVE
> >  I/O = 0X02E8  Len =   8  Flg = EXCLUSIVE   Addr Lines = 16
> >  I/O = 0X0800  Len =   8  Flg = EXCLUSIVE   Addr Lines = 16
> >
> >So I made my COM.SYS line in CONFIG.SYS to be (my boot drive is E:):
> >DEVICE=E:\OS2\BOOT\COM.SYS (3,2E8,3)
> >
> >I then configured my In-Joy (1.1) dialer to use com3 but when I try to
> >dial all I see in the terminal window is:
> >[opening port]
> >[dialing]
> >
> >After a while it pops up a message saying that it did not connect and
> >then retries.
> >
> >What am I missing here? What am I doing wrong. The modem works fine in
> >Win98 which assignes it COM4/IRQ 10 according to its device manager.
> >
> >Any help would be greatly appreciated.
> >
> >Thanks
> >Jim
> >




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From: [e-mail]                                12-Sep-99 22:37:17
  To: All                                               13-Sep-99 05:47:24
Subj: Re: Help! Can't get PNP modem to work in OS/2 Warp 4

From: "James D Parker Jr." <[e-mail]>

[e-mail] wrote:

> In <[e-mail]>, on 09/12/99 at 03:35 PM,
>    "James D Parker Jr." <[e-mail]> said:
>
> >I have a Creative Modem Blaster V.90 DI5660 which is a Plug N Play modem,
> >no way to jumper it. OS/2 seems to reconnize it because RMVIEW /DC shows
> >the following (extra blank lines removed):
>
> >  Detected Hardware Function: Creative Modem Blaster V.90 DI5660
> >  PnP Device ID: DMB2001
> >  PnP Compatible Device ID: none
> >  IRQ Level =  3  PCI Pin = NONE  Flg = EXCLUSIVE
> >  I/O = 0X02E8  Len =   8  Flg = EXCLUSIVE   Addr Lines = 16
> >  I/O = 0X0800  Len =   8  Flg = EXCLUSIVE   Addr Lines = 16
>
> >So I made my COM.SYS line in CONFIG.SYS to be (my boot drive is E:):
> >DEVICE=E:\OS2\BOOT\COM.SYS (3,2E8,3)
>
> >I then configured my In-Joy (1.1) dialer to use com3 but when I try to
> >dial all I see in the terminal window is:
> >[opening port]
> >[dialing]
>
> >After a while it pops up a message saying that it did not connect and
> >then retries.
>
> >What am I missing here? What am I doing wrong. The modem works fine in
> >Win98 which assignes it COM4/IRQ 10 according to its device manager.
>
> >Any help would be greatly appreciated.
>
> >Thanks
> >Jim
>
> You may want to check out this reference and see if you have missed
> anything:
> http://www.diamondmm.com/products/faxback/communications/1331.html
>
> These are basically instructions for installing a PNP modem in warp4.  The
> only question I have for you is did you check to see that hardware was
> enabled.
>
> --
> ----------------------------------------------------
> ------
> Monroe Chasson
> [e-mail]
> -----------------------------------------------------------
> MR2ICE reg#51

I got where I am by following the instructions there. I have reviewed what I
did and tried a few variations but still no luck.

Thanks
Jim


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From: [e-mail]                                12-Sep-99 22:28:25
  To: All                                               13-Sep-99 05:47:24
Subj: Re: Help! Can't get PNP modem to work in OS/2 Warp 4

From: [e-mail] (Will Honea)

On Sun, 12 Sep 1999 19:35:15, "James D Parker Jr."
<[e-mail]> wrote:

> I have a Creative Modem Blaster V.90 DI5660 which is a Plug N Play
> modem, no way to jumper it. OS/2 seems to reconnize it because RMVIEW
> /DC shows the following (extra blank lines removed):
>
>   Detected Hardware Function: Creative Modem Blaster V.90 DI5660
>   PnP Device ID: DMB2001
>   PnP Compatible Device ID: none
>   IRQ Level =  3  PCI Pin = NONE  Flg = EXCLUSIVE
>   I/O = 0X02E8  Len =   8  Flg = EXCLUSIVE   Addr Lines = 16
>   I/O = 0X0800  Len =   8  Flg = EXCLUSIVE   Addr Lines = 16
>
> So I made my COM.SYS line in CONFIG.SYS to be (my boot drive is E:):
> DEVICE=E:\OS2\BOOT\COM.SYS (3,2E8,3)

Step 1: disable any other comm ports that use IRQ3 (Com1).
Step 2: assign the on-board ports to something other than 3E8-IRQ 3
and let the SB settle there.
Step 3: diddle with the BIOS PNP detect settings to try and force it
to something OTHER than 2e8/3.
Step 4: use SIO, tell it to use 3,2e8,10.  Then run a pnp setup
program to put it there.

You probably have an IRQ conflict between com1 and com3 IRQ's.  The
only solution is to move something.  Another trick that worked was to
boot Winxx, let it assign the port/IRQ.  Then do a SOFT boot to OS/2.
At the boot blob, hit alt-F1 and select FULL HARDWARE DETECTION.  When
it is booted, use RMVIEW /DC and see where it got put.  Tell SIO (or
COM.SYS) where it wound up and re-boot.  That worked with an older
Cardinal I had for a while.  It's been a while, but I seem to recall
having some luck using SIO and letting the IRQ's be the same for com1
and com3 as long as I didn't use com1 for anything - like the mouse.

> I then configured my In-Joy (1.1) dialer to use com3 but when I try to
> dial all I see in the terminal window is:
> [opening port]
> [dialing]
>
> After a while it pops up a message saying that it did not connect and
> then retries.
>
> What am I missing here? What am I doing wrong. The modem works fine in
> Win98 which assignes it COM4/IRQ 10 according to its device manager.
>
> Any help would be greatly appreciated.
>
>


Will Honea <[e-mail]>

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From: doug.bissett"at"ibm.net                           13-Sep-99 18:00:10
  To: All                                               13-Sep-99 16:50:03
Subj: Re: IBM Anti Virus

From: doug.bissett"at"ibm.net (Doug Bissett)

On Sun, 12 Sep 1999 19:56:26, [e-mail] wrote:

> I haven't been able to see the beginning of this thread, so maybe I've
> missed something. Symantec has just announced it's going to include an
> OS/2 client version in it's next release of the Norton  AntiVirus program.
> (I saw it in Focus on OS/2 ezine). Why is everybody pissed off at
> Symantec? This sounds like a positive development.
>

Haven't seen that anouncement. Hope it's true. We are pissed off
because it was not available, to the single OS/2 user,  in the same
way as that it was available to the single <pick your op system,
except OS/2> user, on day ONE (which was also announced, when IBM
turned over the reins to Symantec).

So, do we "wait and see" (again), or do we take action to protect our
interests???

I always liked the IBM AV, it WORKED, and it did NOT impact the system
operation very much (most of the time, you couldn't tell it was doing
anything at all). I know that the Win98 version of NAV does impact
system operation, significantly more than the IBM AV does. I just hope
that NAV for OS/2 can step up to the standards set by IBM AV.
******************************
From the PC of Doug Bissett
doug.bissett at ibm.net
The " at " must be changed to "@"
******************************

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From: [e-mail]                      14-Sep-99 03:00:15
  To: All                                               14-Sep-99 18:43:05
Subj: Re: IBM Anti Virus

From: [e-mail]      (John Thompson)

In <SKfw30zmCGmZ-pn2-vGEt4Z3HYld3@localhost>, doug.bissett"at"ibm.net (Doug
Bissett) writes:

>I always liked the IBM AV, it WORKED, and it did NOT impact the system
>operation very much (most of the time, you couldn't tell it was doing
>anything at all). I know that the Win98 version of NAV does impact
>system operation, significantly more than the IBM AV does. I just hope
>that NAV for OS/2 can step up to the standards set by IBM AV.

Well, the present release of NAV/2 takes longer to scan my system
than IBMAV did and sucks *a whole lot more* system resources
while it does so.  But running it a 3AM when nobody's using the
system makes it a moot point.

-John ([e-mail])

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From: [e-mail]                                       13-Sep-99 22:09:14
  To: All                                               14-Sep-99 18:43:06
Subj: Problem with modem after switching operating systems

From: RobAndel <[e-mail]>

I need to use both OS/2 and Windows98.  I have USR model 0460.  I use
dual boot.  If I use OS/2, the modem works fine.  If I then use Windows
98 to connect, if I switch back to OS/2, the modem will not connect or
hold a connection.  I have to leave the computer off for half to a full
day.  Then it will again work under OS/2.

Dows anyone have any ideas?

Thanks,
Rob Andel

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From: [e-mail]                            14-Sep-99 08:05:02
  To: All                                               14-Sep-99 18:43:06
Subj: Re: Recommended PCMCIA modem and 10/100 ethernet?

From: [e-mail] (Stefan A. Deutscher)

On Fri, 10 Sep 1999 13:12:57 GMT, John Thompson
<[e-mail]> wrote:
>In <[e-mail]>,
>[e-mail] (Stefan A. Deutscher) writes:
>
>>Hm. The IBM Home and Away 14.4kB modem 10Mbs ethernet combo card I can
>>pull / reinsert before boot, there after, during operation at will. It
>>just works. However, it installs its own com.sys copy to allow for
>>this magic of dynamic irq/com port/address assignment. Too bad stock
>>com.sys doesn't do that.
>
>Although my Home & Away card can also be removed and reinserted and
>still have ethernet work, I find that the modem function is lost if the
>machine (Compaq Contura Aero) goes into suspend mode. When I resume the
>machine after a suspend, I must remove and reinsert the card to get
>ethernet to work again, but modem will only return after a reboot.
>This is not the case if I hard-code an IRQ for the modem to  use, but
>then ethernet does not work at all.  So its nice, but could be
>better...


Next time, get a Thinkpad then :-) [Ducking and running ..]  Stefan


--
=========================================================================
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From: [e-mail]                            14-Sep-99 12:44:00
  To: All                                               14-Sep-99 18:43:06
Subj: Re: -Modem Report- Actiontec 56k pci Internal

From: Bob Grimes <[e-mail]>


[e-mail] wrote:

> Well, I should have said "preliminary Report".
>
> The installation went flawlessly, except that the card was hard to jam
> into my p60 motherboard, but I have limited experience installing cards.
>
> The cdrom comes with a utility to find out what i/o port, and irq the
> modem is on.  It also comes with a "new" com.sys to which you
> add the i/o and irq, and com#  parameters in the config.sys.
>
> Using injoy, it connected the first time, but only at 19200 v.42 bis.
> I will experiment with init strings and update this post if I have
> achieved higher speeds.  This modem also has a call-waiting
> feature, which I have not tried.
>
> Anyway, another 56k pci modem that is os/2 compatable.
>
> Oh, I am using Warp 3.0 with fixpack 40.
>
> Thanks to everyone who gave me modem advice in reply to my
> "2400 baud sucks" post.  This is a "controller based" modem.
>
> thanks again.
>
> Paul.
>
>   I picked up a Phoebe 56K external at a computer show for around $50 and it
is on
> Com 1.  It works great.  I am running Warp 3, FP 32 and also Warp 4, FP 11,
works
> great on both.




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From: [e-mail]                                15-Sep-99 23:00:06
  To: [e-mail]                                16-Sep-99 04:30:10
Subj: Re: Help! Can't get PNP modem to work in OS/2 Warp 4

To: Will Honea <[e-mail]>
From: "James D Parker Jr." <[e-mail]>

I've got to admit that I don't understand much of what you said. Please see
the questions below. I still haven't gotten the thing to work.

Thanks
Jim
Will Honea wrote:

> On Sun, 12 Sep 1999 19:35:15, "James D Parker Jr."
> <[e-mail]> wrote:
>
> > I have a Creative Modem Blaster V.90 DI5660 which is a Plug N Play
> > modem, no way to jumper it. OS/2 seems to reconnize it because RMVIEW
> > /DC shows the following (extra blank lines removed):
> >
> >   Detected Hardware Function: Creative Modem Blaster V.90 DI5660
> >   PnP Device ID: DMB2001
> >   PnP Compatible Device ID: none
> >   IRQ Level =  3  PCI Pin = NONE  Flg = EXCLUSIVE
> >   I/O = 0X02E8  Len =   8  Flg = EXCLUSIVE   Addr Lines = 16
> >   I/O = 0X0800  Len =   8  Flg = EXCLUSIVE   Addr Lines = 16
> >
> > So I made my COM.SYS line in CONFIG.SYS to be (my boot drive is E:):
> > DEVICE=E:\OS2\BOOT\COM.SYS (3,2E8,3)
>
> Step 1: disable any other comm ports that use IRQ3 (Com1).

I don't know how to "disable" a comm port. COM1 on my system (and most
others I know of) uses IRQ4. There is nothing plugged into it.

>
> Step 2: assign the on-board ports to something other than 3E8-IRQ 3
> and let the SB settle there

I assigned my modem to 2E8-IRQ3. I don't know what you  mean by assigning
the on-board ports to something other than 3E8-IRQ3. There isn't anything on
3E8-IRQ3. What do you mean by an on-board port? What do you mean by "let the
SB settle there?".

> .
> Step 3: diddle with the BIOS PNP detect settings to try and force it
> to something OTHER than 2e8/3.

The only BIOS PNP settings available are:
1. PNP aware OS (yes or no) - I have yes selected
2. Reset configuration data (yes or no) - I have no selected. The
documentation says 'yes' is only appropriate if things are so screwed up the
OS can' boot.
3. For IRQ3-15 select PNP/PCI or ISA - I have tried both settings for IRQ 3
with no change in results. The only way I've found to affect which IRQ the
modem gets assigned is with BASEDEV=RESERVE.SYS /IRQ:3... in config.sys. Een
this doesn't work as advertised in
http://www.diamondmm.com/products/faxback/communications/1331.html. With
BASEDEV=RESERVE.SYS /IRQ:3 /IRQ:5 I got the modem assigned to IRQ7 which
should not be possible according to that web page because IRQ7 is used by
PRINT01.SYS.

>
> Step 4: use SIO, tell it to use 3,2e8,10.  Then run a pnp setup
> program to put it there.

What do you mean by a pnp setup program? Is this some piece of software? I
have tried SIO. The results are the same.

>
>
> You probably have an IRQ conflict between com1 and com3 IRQ's.  The
> only solution is to move something.  Another trick that worked was to
> boot Winxx, let it assign the port/IRQ.  Then do a SOFT boot to OS/2.
> At the boot blob, hit alt-F1 and select FULL HARDWARE DETECTION.  When
> it is booted, use RMVIEW /DC and see where it got put.  Tell SIO (or
> COM.SYS) where it wound up and re-boot.

This is essentially one of the things I did (I selected full hardware
detection through Hardware Manager). I do not believe that I have an IRQ
conflict. There certainly doesn't appear to be one in Hardware Manager or
RMVIEW. There is nothing using IRQ3 other than the modem.

> That worked with an older
> Cardinal I had for a while.  It's been a while, but I seem to recall
> having some luck using SIO and letting the IRQ's be the same for com1
> and com3 as long as I didn't use com1 for anything - like the mouse.
>
> > I then configured my In-Joy (1.1) dialer to use com3 but when I try to
> > dial all I see in the terminal window is:
> > [opening port]
> > [dialing]
> >
> > After a while it pops up a message saying that it did not connect and
> > then retries.
> >
> > What am I missing here? What am I doing wrong. The modem works fine in
> > Win98 which assignes it COM4/IRQ 10 according to its device manager.
> >
> > Any help would be greatly appreciated.
> >
> >
>
> Will Honea <[e-mail]>




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From: [e-mail]                      16-Sep-99 17:30:24
  To: All                                               16-Sep-99 22:38:01
Subj: Re: PCMCIA on a Dell laptops

From: Matthew Shapiro <[e-mail]>

From 3Com regarding the 3CCM156 card, after both 3com and dell refusing to
support customers who use os/2:

" OS/2 Warp has Card and Socket Services (C&SS) drivers included with the
 operating system. The PCMCIA drivers are built-in. The advantage of the
 built in drivers is that to install them you only need to know how to open
 your OS/2 System folder. "

"Yeah, right.  The drivers for this pcmcia modem card on the dell inspiron
233 are not built in to os/2.  I finally solved the problem, thanks to the
news groups,
which I hope you will file for future customers. I will also post this in
the
appropriate news groups.

The *only* driver that I found to enable the 3com card in my inspiron 233
is an older beta version of an ibm driver, SS2PCIC2.SYS dated 6-16-97.
No other driver works, including newer versions of ss2pcic2.sys or the
ezplay
updated 1999 pcmcia drivers.  This driver is not available on the os2
device driver page (the newer one that is useless is there), but is
available at

ftp://ftp.uni-leipzig.de/pub/os2/boulder/os2/os2ddpak/ss2pcic2.exe

If another customer needs this driver, they can find it there or email me.
Or, if DELL and 3COM want to support their customers who don't ride the
DOS train, you could post the driver on your web sites."



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