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- Submitted-by: atkinson@itd.nrl.navy.mil (Randall Atkinson)
-
- In article <1jhnamINNlth@ftp.UU.NET> duke@osf.org writes:
- >>Also, existing practice at one site out of hundreds of thousands is
- >>not anything resembling generalised existing practice (which both BSD
- >>and System V do strongly resemble).
- >
- >You have a point, but 75% of the people during our Mock Ballot disagreed.
-
- It also appears to be true that the mail handling system on the Mock
- Ballot had problems. I USPS-mailed a mock ballot and have a USPS
- Return-Receipt saying it got there, but my mock ballot got lost in
- someone's mail system and never made it to the ballot counters.
-
- Also, the mock balloting process is not widely understood in the
- UNIX community although it is understood within the standards-going
- community.
-
- Also, there was already precedent set within POSIX by the POSIX.2
- inclusion of lp(1) as a command line interface for printing. This has
- been studiously ignored by the vendors promoting Palladium --
- including the Closed Software Foundation (OSF).
-
- > POSIX has expanded beyond the "only existing practice" rule. Look at
- > 1003.4, 1003.6, and the OSI APIs. If you don't like this, your recourse
- > is to campaing and vote against it, but if the majority disagree, this is
- > the way it will be.
-
- This does not bode at all well for POSIX, because the last sentence
- above can be safely translated as "POSIX is no longer a technical
- process, it is now primarily a political process with vendors fighting
- it out on marketing grounds."
-
- Also, POSIX.4 is reportedly partially derived from years of
- experience with a commercial real-time UNIX-like operating system.
- POSIX.6 is derived significantly from experience building operating
- systems targeted for B1 evaluation from NCSC and from other OSs that
- have had ACLs for a while now. You note the OSI APIs, but don't note
- that POSIX.12 (Protocol-independent networking) is standardising
- existing practice (BSD Sockets AND TLI/XTI interfaces).
-
- Ran
- atkinson@itd.nrl.navy.mil
-
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- Volume-Number: Volume 30, Number 32
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