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- Submitted-by: jsq@usenix.org (John S. Quarterman)
-
- I'd like to thank Peter Salus for his input, and to encourage others
- to comment on USENIX standards activities.
-
- However, some of his comments were motivated by impressions produced by
- unclear background. This is my fault, since it's my job to explain
- what USENIX is doing with standards. I was planning to wait a week or
- so after posting the poll results before posting anything from me about
- them, but a bit of clarification now seems best.
-
- >(1) I didn't think the manner of polling was in any way
- > appropriate. On the one hand, many individuals
- > concerned with IT standards don't get the news
- > groups, on the other hand, many members of the
- > various associations (USENIX, UniForum, IEEE,
- > EUUG, etc.) don't care about standards reports.
-
- Normally, we get almost no feedback about the snitch reports. This
- makes planning difficult. So, we're trying several ways to get input.
- A poll on the networks could be done quickly (defined as before the
- next USENIX board meeting) and with a minimum of preparation, on the
- theory that some results were better than none.
-
- In addition to that poll, the paper mailing currently going out to TCOS
- committee members has a page from me asking for responses. It's not an
- actual survey, because some TCOS Standards Subcommittee officers thought
- that would be inappopriate (and I tend to agree), but it should reach
- people that the network poll did not. A request for responses was
- printed in ;login: some months ago. Unfortunately, it only got about
- twenty answers. But a direct mail survey of the USENIX membership is
- in preparation, and will include questions about standards activities.
-
- Suggestions for other approaches are welcome.
-
- >(2) I thought the poll questions and methodology were
- > slanted and unscientific. The fact (noted in
- > some comments) that there was no option for
- > no response/don't care/don't know is part of
- > this. The regression to the mean in most
- > responses is evidence of just how badly
- > designed the poll was.
-
- This is one of the results of the above-mentioned minimum of preparation.
- I spent maybe four hours writing the poll questions and the shell script,
- with no prior experience. In a later posting, I will explore the specific
- problem Peter mentions, as well as some others. I will probably claim
- that, nonetheless, there were some useful results.
-
- >(3) The paltry number of responses shows that even the
- > majority of POSIX and X3 attendees didn't care
- > about the questions.
-
- I'll address that point in a later posting, noting here only that 34 people
- answered yes to at least one of questions 6[XYZ], and that about 400 people
- receive the average TCOS paper mailing.
-
- >(4) I like the snitch reports. I don't think that either
- > John Quarterman or Jeff Haemer does an adequate job
- > where the postings and the articles in ;login: are
- > concerned. I would like to see the snitch reports
- > reduced in size to no more than 4-6 pp. in a quarterly
- > issue where POSIX is concerned; a page where 1201
- > is concerned; a page on WG15; etc. I think that if
- > jsq & jsh are to do a job, it should be to filter
- > the trash before it hits the printer. Editing is
- > more than merely spelling and punctuation and cute
- > asides.
-
- This is the big background problem. Most people are unaware of how
- much editing Jeff actually does. I see both the original, unedited,
- versions and the final edited form of every report. I can attest that
- Jeff does quite a bit of work on many of the reports. Some are passed
- through virtually unchanged, but others are very different after editing.
- The result is that the published reports have a relatively uniform format,
- although there is no attempt to disguise the individual styles of the
- snitches.
-
- Every article, whether changed from its raw form or not, goes back to
- the original snitch for review before being sent on to me. Some of
- them go around several times, developing as they go. Jeff's editorials
- go by every snitch before they reach me. This is a policy I insist on
- in hopes of avoiding technical and political problems with the reports.
- Occasionally, even after all that, I will ask Jeff to fix some problem
- that I've spotted because I've been dealing with this for longer than
- he has, but that's gotten to be pretty rare.
-
- Several people have mentioned to me lately that they thought that all
- the editing Jeff did was to add in the editorial remarks [in the brackets].
- Nope. Those comments are added after the real editing, and allow Jeff
- to address the reader directly, often so he can encourage readers to
- get involved (which is definitely one of our goals). Very occasionally,
- I will also add bracketed comments, usually about of political aspects
- that Jeff didn't know about (usually because I was doing the politics
- while he was editing).
-
- There is essentially no editing done on the reports specifically for
- ;login:. This is largely because there is no budget for it, and is one
- of the reasons for considering a standards newsletter.
-
- Jeff also finds the snitches, persuades them to write the reports,
- and sits in on numerous committee meetings looking for topics suitable
- for someone to report on.
-
- In other words, Jeff is doing the job I asked him to do.
-
- On the other hand, wanting shorter reports is certainly a valid
- viewpoint. We are actively soliciting such viewpoints.
-
- >(5) I'd like to see more on the unmentioned ISO bodies:
- > what's gone on at the recent meetings of JTAP,
- > for example? [Joint Technical Committee on
- > Application Portability]. They met in Copenhagen
- > in February and should be meeting about now in Ottawa.
-
- Good question. We've spent the last year or so cultivating
- snitches in the more obvious groups, and haven't gotten to
- JTAP yet. If you know somebody who wants to volunteer, please
- let us know.
-
- >I think I need yet another newsletter about as much as I
- >need another of Dave Yost's wooden nickles.
-
- I lost my last wooden nickle. Where is Dave when you need him? :-)
-
- Once again, thanks for your input, Peter, and may it encourage
- others to comment.
-
- John S. Quarterman, USENIX Standards Liaison, jsq@usenix.org
-
- Volume-Number: Volume 21, Number 107
-
-