home *** CD-ROM | disk | FTP | other *** search
- From: Jeffrey S. Haemer <jsh@usenix.org>
-
-
-
- An Update on UNIX* and C Standards Activities
-
- September 1989
-
- USENIX Standards Watchdog Committee
-
- Jeffrey S. Haemer, Report Editor
-
- IEEE 1003.5: Ada-language Binding Update
-
- Ted Baker <tbaker@ajpo.sei.cmu.edu> reports on the July 10-14, 1989
- meeting in San Jose, California:
-
- The Ada-language binding for 1003.1 is progressing steadily, though
- behind schedule. The group agreed to try to prepare a document for
- the October meeting in Brussels that is ready for mock ballot. Those
- at the meeting will decide whether the document has achieved this
- goal. If not, we will try again at the January meeting in New Orleans.
-
- The slow progress is mainly due to the long time between meetings and
- the limited workforce available to do the writing. The members, all
- volunteers, must steal time for POSIX from their "real" (i.e. paying)
- jobs. Attending quarterly meetings already puts most members near the
- limit of time they can spare.
-
- Most significant technical issues seem to be resolved; the remaining
- controversies center on almost-religious issues, such as the exact
- grouping of interface declarations into Ada packages, naming,
- capitalization conventions, and where to strike the balance between
- providing full functionality and idiot-proofing the interface.
-
- Each chapter has been assigned to a person for review and editing,
- based on decisions made at the San Jose meeting. Quite a lot of
- writing still needs to be done. Chapter 7 ("Device- and Class-
- Specific Functions" --i.e. terminal interfaces) is still empty, and
- some others are still mostly just Ada code, with no discussion. Most
- of the rationale remains to be written. Mitch Gart has agreed to
- coordinate this, including a chapter on "meta-issues" -- design
- decisions affecting the entire interface. David Emery will combine
- the chapters to produce the next draft.
-
- Interaction with 1003.4 (Real-Time Extensions) has heated up, with
- 1003.4's consideration of support for multi-threaded processes. Ada
- language implementations must support multiple tasks (i.e. threads)
-
- __________
-
- * UNIX is a registered trademark of AT&T in the U.S. and other
- countries.
-
- September 1989 Standards Update IEEE 1003.5: Ada-language Binding
-
-
- - 2 -
-
- within a POSIX process, to comply with the Ada language standard.
- Neither the 1003.1 standard nor the 1003.4 draft that just completed
- mock balloting supports multithreaded processes, so the Ada
- implementor is currently forced to hack out some sort of internal
- concurrency scheme, with its own layer of dispatching, for each Ada
- process. This tends to run aground when one Ada task makes a blocking
- system call, since the whole process is forced to wait. Naturally,
- Ada implementors and users would be pleased if the POSIX interface
- provided for concurrency within a process.
-
- The Ada group is very interested in the threads proposal, and most
- members would like to see some support for threads in the 1003.4
- standard that goes to formal ballot. Some members are a little bit
- concerned that those working on the proposal may not understand Ada
- tasking well enough to insure that the proposed threads will be
- adequate to implement Ada tasking semantics. This has been very
- frustrating for members of the Ada group, since the discussions of the
- threads proposal were all in parallel with meetings of 1003.5. The
- best the Ada group was able to do was to keep one observer present (on
- rotation) at the review of the threads proposal. It is not clear
- whether this was adequate.
-
- [Editor's note: What's going on here, and in the second paragraph, is
- that some groups are much larger than others. 1003.5 is among the
- smallest. The 1003.4 session I saw had about forty, overworked
- attendees. The 1003.5 sessions I saw had five to ten.
-
- 1003.5 could use a lot more participation from the Ada community.
- Unfortunately, this may be a case of "once burned, twice shy". For
- years, there's been a lot of talk about "Ada environments", all of
- which seem, from a UNIX perspective, like enormous, cumbersome
- projects that might actually come into widespread use in, if not our
- children's lifetimes, perhaps their children's.
-
- Make no mistake about it: the Ada community is huge. And easy
- availability of machines with implemented, Ada-language bindings to
- POSIX-conformant operating systems would be immensely useful to that
- community. The ability to buy a box, off-the-shelf, with a portable
- environment for running Ada programs in the next couple of years,
- would make Ada programmers' lives immensely easier and even be a big
- aid in implementing the richer and more complex environments mentioned
- in the previous paragraph.
-
- Still, you can guess what the average, UNIX-naive, Ada programmer must
- think: "Whoopie, another standard/environment. I'll have to take a
- look at it in a few years to see how it's coming along." If the IEEE
- could make some non-vanishing fraction of the Ada community understand
- that POSIX is on the verge of being here, now, dot 5 might get a lot
- more help.
-
- This seems to us (that's the editorial "we", folks) like a
-
- September 1989 Standards Update IEEE 1003.5: Ada-language Binding
-
-
- - 3 -
-
- quintessential marketing problem. If 1003.5 could enlist the help of
- 1003.0 in this matter, they might be able to make some real headway
- here. ]
-
- The 1003.5 group is also very interested in the progress of the
- language-independent versions of the POSIX standard. Much of the
- labor of the Ada binding group has been devoted to separating the
- essential semantics of the 1003.1 interface from the details of its
- expression in the C language (for example, setjmp()/longjmp(), and
- signal handlers). This labor may be of use to those working on the
- language-independent version of 1003.1, but the Ada group does wish
- that new standards, such as 1003.4, would start out with a language-
- independent document, rather than adding to the language-bias problem.
-
- There was one change in the leadership of the 1003.5 working group.
- Stowe Boyd, of Meridian, had been vice-chair but is no longer able to
- spare time from his job to work on this project. Steve Deller, of
- Verdix, has agreed to replace him. This is a very important job,
- since the vice-chair of the 1003.5 group takes direct responsibility
- for setting the technical agenda and running meetings.
-
- September 1989 Standards Update IEEE 1003.5: Ada-language Binding
-
- Volume-Number: Volume 17, Number 41
-
-
-