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- From: jmb@patton.SGI.COM (Jim Barton)
-
- Having been justifiably chastised by the moderator, I'll keep my personal
- opinions to myself, and stick with the issue at hand, which is "standard"
- UNIX.
-
- In article <151@longway.TIC.COM>:
- > From: uunet!wlbr.eaton.com!etn-rad!jru (John Unekis)
- ...
- >
- > ........ My question was actually more concerned with the future of UNIX
- > as an open standard. Obviously keeping UNIX open is a double edged sword
- > for AT&T, they gain great credit as the source of the most widely accepted
- > non-hardware dependent OS, but does it really benefit the sales of their
- > machines? If AT&T were ever to pick a hardware standard as the basis for
- > a product dependent UNIX, the SPARC would be an excellent choice. The
- > real question, I suppose, is can an open standard like UNIX really survive
- > in today's feircely competitive marketplace?
- >
-
- AT&T has some real problems in attempting to manage UNIX, and looks to Sun
- to solve some of them. There are several points to consider about the
- current mess:
-
- 1) AT&T >owns< UNIX, and don't you forget it. Sun doesn't own it, Berkeley
- doesn't, and CMU doesn't. They feel very strongly about it.
-
- 2) Cassoni (President of AT&T Data Systems) believes that a hardware
- platform is necessary to the success of UNIX, similarly to the
- IBM PC. I obviously don't. The PC is basically hardware, and thus
- a different beast than UNIX. By making UNIX hardware specific, you
- destroy it.
-
- 3) AT&T licenses UNIX to a large number of people in various ways. Were
- they to take action that would seriously harm a large number of licensees
- (especially the big ones) they would be facing an anti-trust suit so
- fast your head would spin.
-
- 4) AT&T and Sun are attempting to define a new standard by a simple existence
- proof, the infamous "open" standard. This group has carried much
- discussion about P1003 and other efforts; those are a "standard". AT&T
- and Sun wish to define a standard suitable for their own uses without
- going through the hassle of getting everybody to agree - thus bypassing
- most of the technical community. Thus, they want an IBM style "standard".
- This is the current, openly announced, plan for V.4.
-
- 5) The "open" standard and promises to licensees are efforts by AT&T to
- pacify competitors. It is clearly to AT&T's advantage to have a "standard"
- which looks open on the surface (i.e., everybody >could< duplicate it
- without AT&T source code), but is really as closed as possible (you
- really have to buy AT&T source and hardware to realize it). This is
- true today. Consider RFS, which is in SVID Issue 3, but is un-implementable
- from the SVID as specified. Somehow, though, this is a "standard".
-
- 6) You've obviously been hiding under a rock for the past six months. A
- large number of UNIX licensees have complained directly to AT&T about
- the AT&T/Sun deal and the pronouncements by Sun salespeople. AT&T
- has come out with many assurances that they will take care of
- everybody. Rumoured deals are in the making to work on competing
- versions of UNIX (though obviously >not< with that name).
-
- I'd like to make one last point. A "competing" standard arose with Berkeley
- UNIX because of the legally restricted support that AT&T had to give
- originally and because of the anti-UCB sentiment back in New Jersey. By
- attempting to force one standard without the technical and business input
- of the UNIX licensees, AT&T engenders an environment where another
- competing standard can rise and flourish. After all, V.4 will have
- Sun's favorite enhancements, but it won't have mine, or yours, and it may
- break what I do have.
-
- The heavy-handedness of the AT&T/Sun actions may do more to trash any
- emerging UNIX standard than to promote it.
-
- -- Jim Barton
- Silicon Graphics Computing Systems "UNIX: Live Free Or Die!"
- jmb@sgi.sgi.com, sgi!jmb@decwrl.dec.com, ...{decwrl,sun}!sgi!jmb
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- Volume-Number: Volume 13, Number 39
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