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CURRENT_MEETING_REPORT_
Reported by Philip Almquist
Minutes of the Router Requirements Working Group (RREQ)
The Router Requirements Working Group met much more briefly than it had
at previous IETF meetings. There were three primary activities:
1. Discussion and approval of a Forwarding Table MIBS.
2. Revision of the Router Requirements draft.
3. Coordination with other working groups.
In addition, the Chair gave a lengthy plenary presentation on Router
Requirements in anticipation of its becoming a Proposed Standard before
the next IETF meeting in San Diego.
Each of the three activities listed above is described in more detail
below. The Chair would like to thank Frank Solensky for recording the
decisions reached during the meeting.
Forwarding Table MIB
The Working Group discussed Fred Baker's Forwarding Table MIB proposal.
One substantive flaw was found and fixed, and the revised version was
deemed ready to be passed up to the IESG as a candidate for a Proposed
Standard.
The group hotely debated the question of whether the proposed MIB ought
to handle routing of IP multicasts and, if so, what modifications to the
MIB would be required. The range of conflicting views on these
questions suggested that multicast routing will need to be better
understood before appropriate MIB support can be standardized. The
group felt that the Forwarding Table MIB was too valuable to be placed
on hold indefinitely while multicast routing matures, but will revisit
these issues before requesting that the MIB be advanced to Draft
Standard status.
Router Requirements Document
The Working Group discussed a number of minor technical issues and
requests for clarification. Most were disposed of with little debate.
Probably the only notable decision was the one to lower the requirement
level of MIBs other than MIB-II from MUSTs to SHOULDs, on the grounds
that the number of MIBs which have been developed has reached the point
where implementing all relevant MIBs may be becoming onerous.
Coordination with Other Working Groups
The Working Group held a joint meeting with the IDPR Working Group to
try to ascertain whether there were inconsistencies between the
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specifications the two groups are producing. The primary focus of the
discussion was the implications of the IP-over-IP encapsulation used by
IDPR (e.g., on ICMP error messages). There was also some discussion of
the interactions between the IDPR protocol and other routing protocols.
No particular inconsistencies between the work of the two groups were
identified, but apparently both groups found the discussions interesting
and informative.
Although the Working Group did not hold an official joint meeting with
the BGP Working Group, the RREQ Chair and some other RREQ Working Group
members attended the BGP sessions at which route leaking between BGP and
OSPF was discussed. The goal (or at least the goal of the RREQ Chair)
was to try to achieve consistency between the BGP group's work and the
parallel work on route leaking between arbitrary routing protocols that
is being done in the RREQ group.
Attendees
Philip Almquist almquist@jessica.stanford.edu
Fred Baker fbaker@emerald.acc.com
Atul Bansal bansal@wile.nac.dec.com
William Barns barns@gateway.mitre.org
Art Berggreen art@acc.com
William Biagi bbiagi@cos.com
Rob Coltun rcoltun@ni.umd.edu
Dave Cullerot cullerot@ctron.com
John Damiano
Kurt Dobbins dobbins@ctron.com
Shawn Gallagher gallagher@quiver.enet.dec.com
Jim Ghadbane jimgh@newbridge.com
Chris Gunner gunner@osicwg.enet.dec.com
Frank Heath heath@cmc.com
Ronald Jacoby rj@sgi.com
Satish Joshi sjoshi@synoptics.com
Jean-Michael Jouanigot jimi@cernvax.cern.ch
Michael Karels karels@cs.berkeley.edu
Frank Kastenholz kasten@europa.clearpoint.com
Manu Kaycee kaycee@ctron.com
Yoav Kluger ykluger@fibhaifa.com
Stev Knowles stev@ftp.com
Ron Lau rlau@synoptics.com
John Lekashman lekash@nas.nasa.gov
Tony Li tli@cisco.com
Gary Malkin gmalkin@ftp.com
Mike Marcinkevicz mdm@csu.net
April Merrill abmerri@tycho.ncsc.mil
Donald Merritt don@brl.mil
Dave Monachello dave@pluto.dss.com
Dean Morris morris@marvin.dec.com
Dennis Morris morrisd@imo-uvax.dca.mil
John Moy jmoy@proteon.com
Thomas Pusateri pusateri@cs.duke.edu
Mark Schaefer schaefer@davidsys.com
John Seligson johns@ultra.com
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Harvey Shapiro shapiro@wnyose.nctsw.navy.mil
Richard Smith smiddy@pluto.dss.com
Frank Solensky solensky@clearpoint.com
Michael St. Johns stjohns@umd5.umd.edu
Brad Steinka brad@python.eng.microcom.com
Iris Tal 437-3580@mcimail.com
Sally Tarquinio sally@gateway.mitre.org
William Townsend townsend@xylogics.com
Yuan Wang natadm!ycw@uunet.uu.net
Scott Wasson sgw@sgw.xyplex.com
Walter Wimer walter.wimer@andrew.cmu.edu
Cathy Wittbrodt cjw@nersc.gov
Richard Woundy rwoundy@ibm.com
John Ziegler ziegler@artel.com
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