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CURRENT_MEETING_REPORT_

Reported by Constance Fleenor Lloyd/Lloyd and Associates

Minutes of the Point-to-Point Protocol Extensions Working Group (PPPEXT)

Brian Lloyd opened the meeting stating that there is a small problem
with with proceeding with RFC 1334 (Authentication) that he hoped to
clear up this week in a meeting he had scheduled with Steve Kent of the
IAB.

General

Collectively, RFCs 1331, 1332, 1333, and 1334 will completely replace
RFCs 1171, and 1172.

Document Status

Appletalk, and OSI documents are currently at last call.  Copies of the
Appletalk document can be obtained from Brad Parker.

A show of hands was requested for how many are building routers.  About
twelve hands were raised, and a second show of hands indicated about
nine were planning on CLNP. It was stated that these people need to read
the document (ietf.drafts.pppext.osi.txt).

TELEBIT PPP-a-thon

Mark Lewis reviewed the results of the PPP-a-thon, in which ten vendors
made their various PPP options interoperate.  Vendors mapped protocols
to media, and implementations.

Work done at the PPP-a-thon resulted in an update to RFC 1220;
clarifying negotiation of all mac types.  The wording in RFC 1220 is not
clear on results of mac negotiations.  The proposal is to yank mac type,
and LAN type from 1220, and add option to state mac address to the RFC.
Fred Baker, the author of RFC 1220, is going to make the changes to the
RFCs.

Another PPP-a-thon is planned for the week prior to Fall INTEROP '92.
This will also serve as a hot stage for the INTEROP PPP demo/solutions
showcase which is planned if Brian Lloyd can get confirmation from at
least 15 vendors for participation.  It is hoped that some new
implementations will be available for this week.

INTEROP PPP Solutions Showcase Demo

If enough vendors sign for participation there will be a PPP demo at
INTEROP. Charge for participation in the INTEROP PPP demo will be
$4,000.  Brian Lloyd feels that a centralized demonstration is best,
rather than the distributed demo of 1990.  The demo booth should be as

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self-contained as possible.  All possible aspects of PPP would be part
of the demo; dial-up, and leased-line asynchronous; synchronous 56K to
T3; switched services including dial-in ISDN, and switched 56; etc.

Enough participants present at the meeting confirmed interest in the
INTEROP demo to provide the required 15 vendors.

LAPB, and Compression

Fred Baker led discussion on the subject of LAPB, and compression;

There was lively discussion on using more than one compression algorithm
concurrently; and if so should one NCP identifier be used, or
subprotocol identifiers.

Note:  The issues were later addressed in BOFs, resulting in consensus
on a complete compression configuration protocol.  Fred Baker is writing
a draft document that describes the compression mechanisms and
negotiations.

IPX

Chris Ranch, from Novell, led discussion on IPX over PPP. Novell is
publishing an information RFC on IPXWAN; available via ftp novell.com.
IPXWAN will be essential for interoperability with Netware.

They will work on IPXCP options for a paper that will obsolete IPXWAN in
the future.

Twelve people raised their hands when Chris asked who is doing IPXWAN
with PPP.

A small group consisting of Mark Lewis, Bill Simpson, Brian Lloyd, Glenn
McGregor, and Chris Ranch met with Marty DelVechio at Shiva in a BOF to
discuss Bill Simpson's document that attempts to converge the Shiva and
Novell NCP documents.  Bill Simpson will modify his convergence document
based on the results of the discussions at the BOF and repost it.

DECNET

Craig Fox led discussion on the DECNET draft.  He made some changes to
the explanatory passages in the draft, removed a section, and moved a
section of text.  The text was posted as a new draft the next day.

116/32 Bit FCS

Tony Lauck said that DEC, in compliance with standards policy, will
charge a ``reasonable'' fee to use for DEC's 48 bit FCS. Numbers on the
order of $1,000 or more were bandied about by Mr.  Lauck.  This was not
well received by the Group.  The general consensus is to seek a
different mechanism to negotiate 16/32 bit FCS. Both Craig Fox and Karl

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Fox suggested mechanisms based on sending two initial configuration
requests using both 16 and 32 bit FCS. A new document that does not make
use of any of the DEC mechanisms is likely.

MIBs

Frank Kastenholz described how the single large MIB document had been
divided into separate MIB documents to match with the existing LCP, NCP,
LQM, and authentication documents.  He asked if there were any
objections to submitting MIBs for Proposed Standard.  There were no
significant objections.

Attendees

Steve Alexander          [e-mail]
Sam Ayers                [e-mail]
Fred Baker               [e-mail]
Jim Barnes               [e-mail]
Luc Boulianne            [e-mail]
Steve Buchko             [e-mail]
David Carr               [e-mail]
Greg Celmainis           [e-mail]
Dean Cheng               [e-mail]
Chris Chiotasso          [e-mail]
Henry Clark              [e-mail]
James Cobban             [e-mail]
Andy Davis               [e-mail]
Marty Del Vecchio        [e-mail]
Pierre Dupont            [e-mail]
Robert Finn              [e-mail]
Constance Fleenor Lloyd  [e-mail]
Craig Fox                [e-mail]
Scott Ginsburg           [e-mail]
Martin Gray              [e-mail]
Chris Gunner             [e-mail]
James Harville           [e-mail]
Dwight Jamieson          [e-mail]
Bob Jeckell              [e-mail]
Frank Kastenholz         [e-mail]
David Kaufman
Alan Kullberg            [e-mail]
David Kumpf              [e-mail]
Anthony Lauck            [e-mail]
Gordon Lee               [e-mail]
Mark Lewis               [e-mail]
Brian Lloyd              [e-mail]
Keith Mader              [e-mail]
Glenn McGregor           [e-mail]
Greg Minshall            [e-mail]
Mary Christine O'Connor  [e-mail]
Larry Palmer             [e-mail]
J. Bradford Parker       [e-mail]


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Jay Pasco-Anderson       [e-mail]
Lars Poulsen             [e-mail]
Venkat Prasad            [e-mail]
Christopher Ranch        [e-mail]
John Shriver             [e-mail]
William Simpson          [e-mail]
Mark Smith               [e-mail]
Chris Sullivan           [e-mail]
Richard Sweatt           [e-mail]
Kannan Varadhan          [e-mail]
Gregory Vaudreuil        [e-mail]
John Veizades            [e-mail]
Jesse Walker             [e-mail]
Scott Wasson             [e-mail]
James Watt               [e-mail]
Luanne Waul              [e-mail]
Honda Wu                 natadm![e-mail]



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