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CURRENT_MEETING_REPORT_
Reported by Tony Bates/RIPE NCC
Minutes of the Generic Internet Service Description Working Group (GISD)
After the agenda was presented, Tony Bates gave a general overview of
GISD. The overview prompted a short discussion on focus including the
following topics:
o Is it meant for users ? No
o Is it meant as a checklist ? No
o Is it a service profile ? No, but could be in the future
An overview of the GISD structure was also given showing how GISD
aspects are documented. Some concern was raised about the use of
minimal/common/maximal in the sense that this could cause some
classification of service providers (SPs). However, the general view
was that in the the context of GISD, it should be possible to word this
in such a way so as not to make this happen. The idea behind this is to
show the options rather than to categorise; occasionally it is useful to
show different options.
The issue of ``who or what constitutes an SP'' was raised. The point is
that anyone can call themselves a service provider but this is in fact
not the issue of GISD. The point behind GISD is to write a document so
people know what services an SP can potentially provide and how SPs
should interact with each other regarding these services.
Some people also GISD as a direct template (i.e. a ``tick the box''
type of document). Again, this is not the intention of GISD. However,
it could be possible at a later date to produce a template using the
terminology and list of aspects detailed in GISD.
Tony Bates gave a overview of the aspects themselves.
It was noted that ``training'' is becoming more of an issue for SPs to
provide to their customers and this could an aspect within the
``Information and coordination'' area.
A status of the current draft was given. Thirty-eight aspects have been
defined as a result of two previous IETF BOFs on the subject. Thus far
only eight aspects had been drafted, and the intention is to get members
of the GISD group to draft some of these aspects. An action was placed
on Tony to produce a short GISD aspect guideline document giving details
of the format required and an index of possible aspects still needed to
be drafted. The intention would be to work on the areas one at a time.
A basic overview of the process:
Guideline Document (Format + index)
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Areas ----------------> Volunteers (select an aspect)
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+-----------------------Review
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All 6 areas drafted
A related idea was when sending the index of aspects out, to seek good
candidates for a certain topic outside of the working group. Several
people committed to writing aspects once they had seen the guideline
document. The meeting concluded with the general consensus that the
document should be possible to come together for review by Seattle and
final copy by Toronto.
Attendees
Vikas Aggarwal vikas@jvnc.net
Tony Bates tony@ripe.net
Steven Blair sblair@us.dell.com
Scott Bradner sob@harvard.edu
Henry Clark henryc@oar.net
David Conrad davidc@iij.ad.jp
Vince Fuller vaf@barrnet.net
Eugene Hastings hastings@psc.edu
Matt Hood hood@nsipo.nasa.gov
Jeanine Kamerdze kamerdze@nsipo.nasa.gov
Scott Kaplan scott@ftp.com
Sean Kennedy liam@nic.near.net
Kim Long klong@sura.net
Dan Magorian magorian@ni.umd.edu
Bill Manning bmanning@rice.edu
Glenn Mansfield glenn@aic.co.jp
Stephen Miller smiller@bbn.com
Pushpendra Mohta pushp@cerf.net
Scott Paisley paisley@central.bldrdoc.gov
Andrew Partan asp@uunet.uu.net
Brad Passwaters bjp@eng.umd.edu
Marsha Perrott perrott@prep.net
Henry Sinnreich hsinnreich@mcimail.com
Bernhard Stockman boss@ebone.net
Marten Terpstra marten@ripe.net
John Veizades veizades@ftp.com
Evan Wetstone evanw@vnet.ibm.com
Chris Wheeler cwheeler@cac.washington.edu