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CURRENT_MEETING_REPORT_
Reported by Michael Reilly/DEC DNS Minutes
Administration
We began this meeting of the DNS Working Group by discussing
administrative details. The group decided to merge the current DNS
Working Group mailing list with the namedroppers mailing list. (This
was completed during the week following the Atlanta meeting.) The
proposed DNS Working Group charter was discussed and resulted in a
decision to state the operational and protocol goals of the Working
Group in separate paragraphs. This will serve to emphasize both aspects
of the charter.
The working group has begun an examination of some of the security
aspects of the DNS. In working with this sensitive information, many
questions were raised. It was noted by some WG members that this type
of information has not been made widely available in the past. It was
asked whether there were any existing Internet or IETF policies either
limiting or encouraging wide dissemination of this type of security
information. The WG Chair will attempt to answer this question and will
edit the proposed charter as appropriate. An edited version of the
charter will be posted to the namedroppers mailing list before the end
of August.
Splitting the DNS Working Group
A proposal to split the current DNS Working Group into two separate
groups was discussed. The proposal calls for a WG responsible for the
operational aspects of the DNS in the Internet and a second WG
responsible for additions and changes to the existing DNS RFC's (aka a
protocol group). The members of the Working Group present felt that the
current group should not be split. It was noted that should the Working
Group be split the membership of each new group would consist mostly of
the members of the current DNS WG. It was also noted that commitments to
other Working Groups may prevent many from attending two DNS related
Working Groups.
Current Operational Problems
The Working Group then began discussions of problems which have been
observed in the operation of the DNS in recent months. As a part of
this discussion Philip Almquist spent a few minutes presenting an
overview of the changes he has made to the current version of BIND
(4.8.3) to solve some of the more critical problems. Philip is engaged
in a project to produce a version of BIND which closely follows the DNS
RFC's while being more robust and easier to configure than the current
version. All of his work is based on the freely available BIND source
code released by the University of California at Berkeley. The results
of Philip's work will also be freely available. Philip expects his
version of BIND (current known as BIND version 4.8.4) to begin beta
testing in September or October.
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A DNS MIB
Joseph Peck presented his ``strawman'' proposal of the DNS information
which should be made available via SNMP. Several useful comments and
suggestions were made by members of the Working Group concerning the
contents of a DNS MIB as well as a proposal for organizing the MIB into
a generic and an implementation specific portion. A revised proposal
will be posted to the mailing list within a few weeks. Several WG
members expressed an interest in working on the MIB document itself.
This effort will be organized via the mailing list as soon as the
revised proposal has been discussed.
Several people suggested that the DNS MIB may need to contain variables
which should be ``settable'' i.e., ``flush the cache'' or ``reload the
database from permanent storage''. The revised proposal mentioned above
will include a separate section of these settable variables.
A proposal for the DNS MIB is expected to be presented at the next IETF
meeting.
Attendees
Philip Almquist almquist@jessica.stanford.edu
Stevan Belair swbelair@sprintf.merit.edu
Thomas Brisco brisco@rutgers.edu
Mats Brunell mats.brunell@sics.se
Stephen Crocker crocker@tis.com
John Curran jcurran@bbn.com
James Ellis jte@cert.sei.cmu.edu
Johnny Eriksson bygg@sunet.se
Erik Fair fair@apple.com
Russ Hobby rdhobby@ucdavis.edu
Steven Holt
Alton Hoover hoover@nis.ans.net
Tim Howes Tim.Howes@umich.edu.
Tom Kessler kessler@sun.com
Darren Kinley kinley@crim.ca
Richard Larkin rblarkin@sprintf.merit.edu
Walter Lazear lazear@gateway.mitre.org
John Lekashman lekash@nas.nasa.gov
Louis Leon osll@emuvm1.cc.emory.edu
Louis Mamakos louie@ni.umd.edu
Bill Manning bmanning@rice.edu
April Marine april@nisc.sri.com
Paul Mockapetris pvm@darpa.mil
Keith Moore moore@cs.utk.edu
Michael Patton map@lcs.mit.edu
Joe Peck peck@ms1.pa.dec.com
Jon Postel postel@isi.edu
Michael Reilly reilly@nsl.dec.com
Jan Michael Rynning jmr@nada.kth.se
Jonathan Saperia saperia@tcpjon.enet.dec.com
Erik Sherk sherk@nmc.cit.cornell.edu
Keld Simonsen keld.simonsen@dkuug.dk
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Bernhard Stockman boss@sunet.se
Glenn Trewitt trewitt@nsl.dec.com
Rudiger Volk rv@informatik.uni-dortmund.de
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