Internet Info 1997 December/Internet_Info_CD-ROM_Walnut_Creek_December_1997.iso/ietf/93nov/apples-minutes-93nov.txt

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CURRENT_MEETING_REPORT_

Reported by Erik Huizer/SURFnet bv

Minutes of the Applications Area Directorate (APPLES)


Thanks to Keith Moore for his contribution to the minutes.

The meeting was chaired by John Klensin, Erik Huizer and Joyce Reynolds.
The goal of the meeting was to present an overview of the applications
work that is going on in the Applications Area and User Services Area,
possibly identify areas of common interest/overlap and discuss possible
coordination.

The various working group chairs gave a very brief description of their
applications-related working group and the current issues.


   o Integrated Directory Services (IDS) - User Services Area

      -  non-technical documentation for directory services users
      -  X.500 catalogs
      -  WHOIS++ catalogs
      -  gateways between X.500/WHOIS++
      -  legal issues with running directory services


   o Integration of Internet Information Resources (IIIR) - User
     Services Area

      -  vision of the future
      -  quality of service issues
      -  standardizing types for applications/data
      -  documenting existing protocols like WWW, Gopher and WAIS


   o Internet Message Access Protocol (IMAP) - Applications Area

      -  manipulate remote mailbox
      -  access sequences of messages (news, FTP archives, etc.)
      -  selectively access MIME body parts


   o Internet Anonymous FTP Archives (IAFA) - User Services Area

      -  help anonymous FTP administrators organize FTP sites
      -  FTP site administrators guide (FYI)
      -  FTP guide for users (FYI)
      -  set of data templates to catalog FTPable information


   o Networked Information Retrieval (NIR) - User Services Area

      -  status report on NIR tools/groups


   o OSI Directory Services (OSIDS) - Applications Area

      -  deployment of X.500-based directory services on the Internet
      -  LDAP - lightweight directory access protocol
      -  CLDAP - connectionless lightweight directory access protocol
      -  representing bibliographic/text information


   o TELNET (TELNET) - Applications Area

      -  environment option
      -  authentication


   o TELNET TN3270 Enhancements (TN3270E) - Applications Area

      -  document TN3270 (Informational RFC)
      -  extensions:  LUnames/printer data streams
      -  enhanced TN3270:  full function 3270 over TCP


   o Uniform Resource Identifiers (URI) - User Services Area

      -  URLs
      -  URNs
      -  citations/characteristics (whatever URCs are)
      -  naming/address resolution for objects (possibly DNS)


   o WHOIS and Network Information Lookup Service (WNILS) - User
     Services Area

      -  WHOIS network information and lookup service
      -  development of WHOIS++


   o X.400 Operations (X400OPS) - Applications Area

      -  closing down
      -  proposes new working group:  Commercial X.400 Internet
         Interconnection (CXII)

          * how do commercial providers of X.400 connect to Internet
            mail?

              +go-mhs
              +RFC 1327 gateway operations

          * must get collaboration from X.400 service providers


After these presentations the discussion went on to define sub-areas of
related working groups.  A discussion ensued that concentrated on the
topic of white pages and directory services.  Erik Huizer proposed a
strawman model of how efforts can be coordinated in this sub-area.  The
strawman proposes two things:


  1. Coordination of WHOIS++ and X.500 working groups working on
     specific well defined issues, that cover the ``common ground''
     between these two otherwise competing proposals.

  2. The establishment of a directorate for directory service issues
     that would act as an advisory board to the area directors, and
     would help to coordinate the related working groups.


Discussion

   o It was perceived that coordination of WHOIS++ and X.500 efforts in
     the white pages area is useful.  However, the ultimate goal of this
     is not to come up with the one protocol to solve the directory
     problem.  Rather, the goal should be to pool expertise to solve
     common problems, thus increasing the level of interworking and the
     perceived functionality for the end-users.

     It was pointed out that this effort should not preclude other
     directory services efforts from working within the Applications
     Area and/or User Services Area.

     This will be discussed further in the OSIDS and WNILS Working
     Groups.


   o The establishment of a separate directorate for directory services
     in the Applications Area was generally not perceived as a good
     idea.  Fear was expressed that this tended to solve the problems
     for the directory service-related working groups, but would not
     improve communication with those working groups that work on
     protocols that make use of the directory.  Suggestions were made
     for enlargement of the Applications Area Directorate, at least with
     the working group chairs, and possibly with support of some pools
     of experts for some fields of interest.

     The Area Directors will write another strawman proposal for this
     specific coordination issue, and it will be discussed on the list:
     [e-mail].  To subscribe to the list send a request to:
     [e-mail].

     After consensus is reached, the proposal will be submitted to the
     IESG and IAB for approval.


Attendees

Steve Alexander          [e-mail]
Harald Alvestrand        [e-mail]
Glen Cairns              [e-mail]
James Conklin            [e-mail]
Ann Cooper               [e-mail]
Alan Emtage              [e-mail]
Urs Eppenberger          [e-mail]
Erik Fair                [e-mail]
Sallie Fellows           [e-mail]
Jill Foster              [e-mail]
Ned Freed                [e-mail]
Kevin Gamiel             [e-mail]
Tony Genovese            [e-mail]
Arlene Getchell          [e-mail]
Shawn Gillam             [e-mail]
Mei-Jean Goh             [e-mail]
Judith Grass             [e-mail]
Terry Gray               [e-mail]
Phillip Gross            [e-mail]
Martyne Hallgren         [e-mail]
Deborah Hamilton         [e-mail]
Alf Hansen               [e-mail]
Roland Hedberg           [e-mail]
Marco Hernandez          [e-mail]
Russ Hobby               [e-mail]
Tim Howes                [e-mail]
Richard Huber            [e-mail]
Erik Huizer              [e-mail]
Marko Kaittola           [e-mail]
Neil Katin               [e-mail]
Steve Kille              [e-mail]
Byonghak Kim             [e-mail]
John Klensin             [e-mail]
Jim Knowles              [e-mail]
Mark Kosters             [e-mail]
John Kunze               [e-mail]
Barry Leiner             [e-mail]
Ben Levy                 [e-mail]
Clifford Lynch           [e-mail]
Glenn Mansfield          [e-mail]
April Marine             [e-mail]
Larry Masinter           [e-mail]
Mitra                    [e-mail]
Keith Moore              [e-mail]
Robert Moskowitz         [e-mail]
John Myers               [e-mail]
Chris Newman             [e-mail]
Masataka Ohta            [e-mail]
Lars-Gunnar Olsson       [e-mail]
Scott Paisley            [e-mail]
Rakesh Patel             [e-mail]
Marsha Perrott           [e-mail]
Karen Petraska-Veum      [e-mail]
Cecilia Preston          [e-mail]
Kenneth Rossen           [e-mail]
Srinivas Sataluri        [e-mail]
Rickard Schoultz         [e-mail]
Henry Sinnreich          [e-mail]
Mark Smith               [e-mail]
Karen Sollins            [e-mail]
Simon Spero              [e-mail]
Anthony Valle            [e-mail]
John Veizades            [e-mail]
Chris Weider             [e-mail]
Jackie Wilson            [e-mail]
Russ Wright              [e-mail]