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orbital-digest         Friday, August 4 2000         Volume 02 : Number 354




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Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 08:23:45 -0400
From: Jim Laser <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) RE:  Brendan's vote

My vote is for Brendan to leave this list permanently.  For those of us in
digest mode, your constant bullshit posts are not filterable and completely
worthless.  If we all wanted to join a general-discussion mailing list, we'd
have joined one that wasn't dedicated to Orbital.  Many people don't want
you here.  You provide nothing but negativity and annoyance to this list.
Get a clue and move on.

Jim


Brendan Byrd/SineSwiper wrote:

>> from what i've gathered over the past year, the great majority of the list
>> does not want you here - you wore out your welcome long ago.

>Can I get a vote here?


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Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 09:41:49 -0500
From: Rik Akey <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) (Orbital) Wasting my time

Hello

I'm a lurker. I get the digest. I'm a very busy guy. So, when I have
time to read, I roll through like a week's messages at one time.

You can imagine my joy at receiving Orbital Digest V2 #353 this morning.
35K of great music discussion?
No. 35K of flames going to and coming from Brendan. If only it were the
first time!

So, I've wasted 10 minutes of my life reading this. And now, I'm wasting
even MORE time to post about it. I'll try to be brief.

Should Brendan be booted? No. This should be a free, unrestricted
medium.

But most polite folks (PLUR or otherwise) believe certain standards of
behavior should apply. Most of these should be obvious to everyone. But
let me state the one that seems to be most often violated here.

If you disagree so vehemently with someone that you must flame them, do
it privately. By all means, feel free to continue your discussion, but
leave us out of it.

Why create a scene? Why resort to foul language? Would you really do
this in a physical public place, with strangers' heads all turning in
your direction to see what all the fuss was about? Put another way, do
you think people who take their problems to Jerry Springer are looking
to solve them?

I am simply calling for a little decorum. Thousands of lurkers like me
(whose valuable reading time was also wasted this morning) are here for
the discussion of music. Let's discuss it.

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Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 07:37:58 -0700
From: "Shaun Rader" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (orbital) Brendan's vote

While I am shocked at times at how blunt Brendan is I don't think anyone
should ever be 'kicked off' of a list unless he was a total annoyance.  I've
seen a message board with a guy who terrorized the thing by replying to
EVERY message attacking the people personally with no basis behind argument.

At least Brendan has something to say behind any extreme words he may use.

The dream of a list that is always on topic seems to be an impossibility
(I'm on many lists and I don't think any of them are on topic really).

The fact that he hates Moby should get him kicked off more than his
behavior! :)

j/k

> [mailto:[e-mail]]On Behalf Of Jim Laser
>
> My vote is for Brendan to leave this list permanently.  For those of us in
> digest mode, your constant bullshit posts are not filterable and
> completely
> worthless.  If we all wanted to join a general-discussion mailing
> list, we'd
> have joined one that wasn't dedicated to Orbital.  Many people don't want
> you here.  You provide nothing but negativity and annoyance to this list.
> Get a clue and move on.
>
> Jim



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Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 12:22:40 EDT
From: "Robert Schultz" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) Brendan's vote

Yeah, I mean, I'm a once-list-activist-turned-lurker (I guess) and I haven't
seen anything really related to Orbital. I know that they don't have an
album or tour going on right now, but why can't we talk about them anyway?
What about bootlegs, trades, different Orbital garbage that we can spill
about ourselves? Why are we talking about the stuff we're talking about?
Last summer, even though Brendan was being a tool (sorry man), we still had
some good action on the list, and good topics too. This summer, the list is
flat out DEAD.

So, this shows that it's not Brendan that's the problems, it's all of us.
What the hell happened? We have people sending 5 word posts to the list, and
and that's basically the way it's been for a LONG time now. Wake up!

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Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 19:38:07 +0000
From: Brendan Byrd/SineSwiper <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) Brendan's vote

Robert Schultz wrote:
>
> So, this shows that it's not Brendan that's the problems, it's all of us.
> What the hell happened? We have people sending 5 word posts to the list, and
> and that's basically the way it's been for a LONG time now. Wake up!

I said it earlier: Orbital's not doing anything, so it's not very active.  Even
so, I think JUST talking about Orbital is kinda boring.  People all around here
have an interest in the rave scene, drugs, techno music, MP3s, etc., etc.  When
people bitch about being offtopic more than I flame, then we have a REAL
problem! :)

- --
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Computer techie, Perl hacker, and all-purpose Internet guru
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Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2000 07:52:43 +0000 (GMT)
From: Wouter Hermans <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) RE:  Brendan's vote

> If we all wanted to join a general-discussion mailing list, we'd have
> joined one that wasn't dedicated to Orbital.  Many people don't want
> you here.  You provide nothing but negativity and annoyance to this
> list. Get a clue and move on.

Heyhey... i'm a lurker on this Orbital list because nothing much happened.
I haven't seen anything ontopic about orbital (except for mp3 trading) for
ages!  I mean, this list was boring as hell!

Now, ok, flaming is bad, but
why did the flaming start?  It was a discussion about mp3's and napster,
no?  Since there is a lot of mp3 trading here (it seems), why wouldn't a
mp3/napster discussion be of any interest of you all?  It's not like this
is becoming a discussion forum about the republican/democratic
conventions, eh? :)

Anyway... i'm also a subscriber to the dirtylist
(underworld mailinglist), and i must say that if you all hate offtopic
mails, you would hate that list :)  Sure, at times there's underworld
content going by, but you also get "offtopic" posts about other artists,
subscribers starting a remix cd (oh, hey, we had that here too, didn't
we?), games, psychology, religion (oh.. no, not anymore ;), math, books...

Of all dirtymails i got today, there was one ontopic (a review about the
cowgirl remixes), the rest were all 'offtopic' posts :)

Sure, Brendan used/uses words he shouldn't use. But if you read his mails,
he's not pissed on everybody and wants to go out with a bang from this
list.  I mean, hey, the guy brought some life to this list! :)

So, i'm not saying that y'all should start a flamewar now... but dare to
be a bit more offtopic :)  Advertising FTP sites and ebay auctions tend to
get a bit boring after a while ;)

wouter hermans
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Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2000 21:39:08 +0000
From: "Arfie Mansfield" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) On Topic: Y3K2

    According to the promos, Y3K2 will have, among others, an exclusive track
or remix by Orbital. Unfortunately I have no further details as yet.


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Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2000 18:50:35 -0700
From: "Mehul Parekh" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) what is on napster?

Well, boys and girls, point your typing fingers on to napster and download
orbital's macrohead from me!
I am listed as orbital_fan (i got a cable modem) and I will try to leave my
connection on as much as humanly possible.
good luck.
there are a few other songs there too.
oh, did i mention, shannon rules!!!!
mehul


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Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2000 23:15:32 -0700
From: [e-mail]
Subject: (orbital) Thinking of making some t-shirts

I was thinking of making some t-shirts with my Laser printer if possible
or High quality deskjet of the jpeg on www.communism.net.  If anyones
interested let me know.. I'll send them for cost of supplies.




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Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2000 19:57:19 -0700
From: "Jeff Fanno" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) test-do not read

TEST



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