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orbital-digest        Wednesday, April 28 1999        Volume 02 : Number 190




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Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 00:19:35 +0100
From: "Price, Steve A" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) Japan GREEN / Peel Broadcast

>Anyway, what I really wanted to write about - and STEVE PRICE this is
>especially to you - I got the GREEN album yesterday. No, I already had it,
but
>this time it is the JAP release. It is called "ORBITAL - ORBITAL" (except
>written in Japanese) with no "1" like most people call it. Anyway, does
anyone
>have this? The reason I bought it is this. Read this track listing then go
>look at yours:

AJ....

the track listing is exactly the same as the original release of the Green
album (see the UK listing). They only changed it for the US release...to
make more viable for the country...whatever that fucking means :)))

Also...the Peel session date is wrong on my site...i just havent changed it
yet. Its being broadcast on Tuesday not Wednesday .

Steve LOOPZ Price
Orbital Zine
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Date: Sun, 25 Apr 1999 22:46:16 -0400
From: Dan Colquhoun <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) back again.

not like I was gone really.  easy move, hmm.  Well, the 18th is gonna be
one heck of a week, new Orbital and new Star Wars in two days ;)  I'm
saving myself until then...



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Date: Fri, 5 Mar 1999 23:01:46 -0800
From: Reece H <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) Glastonbury / Eclipse and Drum Rhythm Festival ALL      confirmed

>What did everyone think of the PEEL night. I thought it was a tight gig,
>near perfect sound (not enough bass! for me....haha). I was disappointed
>that they never played Open Mind and the support act just sucked imho.


yeah, i thought they did a pretty good set, and it didn't take long to get
everyone standing :) Cornelius? no, they were wicked, totally mental music
=)

oh, steve, we went to the wrong bar, so I guess we failed again...

reece





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Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 02:30:46 +0100
From: Mark S-D <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) Untitled

From: AJ Brustein <[e-mail]>

(...tracklisting of Japanese Untitled / Green LP)

>Chime Live 5.56
>Midnight Live 6.53
>Belfast* 8.06
>(And some short unlisted track 11 that I don't know the name of)

This ones the same as my lp except for this last one. Is this 'I think it's
disgusting?'. I'm missing that record but someone told me it was a very
short thing similar to Input/Output, so I haven't hunted down the tape of
the green lp - which (I think) this also appears on (?) I know of two
versions of the green LP, yours sounds to me very similar to the first (?)
pressing plus that extra track and of course the sleeve. Quite rare I
should think. Like you I prefer the original of Speed Freak, but also I
like Fahrenheit 3D3 better...at the time I imported a version of the
Mutations ep just for that one record, glad I did.

Thanks Steve for the info you posted about Paul's set, I spent ages
searching the web and didn't find anything on it, I'm still interested of
course as I only recognised Helter Skelter and Spice (Eon). I do love that
record, I recommend Eon's Void Dweller EP to everyone, some LP's I keep
going back to and never get tired of - even though it is quite old now. I
think Eon are no more but one half carried on with Depth Charge, anyone
know if the other half Ian B did anything more ?

Something funny I came across while searching the web, a self portrait Paul
did..if you haven't already seen this then...
http://presse.freepage.de/beside/00gallery/artorbital.html
It was the only thing that got me laughing, if the url doesn't work try it
without the zero's. The page title is B-side.

Lastly I've been thinking of picking up the new Banco De Gaia lp, anybody
got any thoughts on this one ? The Maya LP had some of my all time favorite
records on there, but I haven't delved in this area for a while. The only
things I've been listening to recently are Middle of...(you know where),
Plaid's Peel session, and also Ninja Tune's FunKungFusion CD (some of this
is really good...). And eating Chinese food, smoking too many
fags...scratching my arse...etc...
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"I think therefore I think...possibly." - written by me, possibly, but
don't quote me on that.


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Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 19:34:26 +0000
From: [e-mail]
Subject: (orbital) Speedy J (OFF TOPIC)

Has anyone on this list heard of Speedy J.

Is he any good?
What type of stuff does he do , Techno, Trip Hop, House etc?

Recommendations on singles/albums

Also,  I have been offered a Roland MC 303 Groovebox
Anybody got one?

Are the sounds as good as the TB303 TB909 !!!

Sorry for the OFF TOPIC!!

;-)


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Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 11:42:50 -0700
From: "Fanno, Jeff" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (orbital) Speedy J (OFF TOPIC)

> Has anyone on this list heard of Speedy J.
>
> Is he any good?
> What type of stuff does he do , Techno, Trip Hop, House etc?
>
     I happen to like Speedy J a lot. I only have one (2) CD's of his.
Its called G-Spot and it had a limited edition Live CD included with studio
album.  Its definitely techno, similar to Orbital in that its layered and
layered music and changing styles and tempos.  Not as artistic of course as
Orbital but still very good.  Its similar to Juno Reactor, if you've heard
of them.  I don't know how else to describe it, the beats are too fast or
two slow, somewhere in between, I think its very creative and enjoyable
techno.

    Jeff


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Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 14:57:10 -0400
From: Dan Colquhoun <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) Speedy J (OFF TOPIC)



[e-mail] wrote:
>
> Has anyone on this list heard of Speedy J.
>
> Is he any good?
> What type of stuff does he do , Techno, Trip Hop, House etc?
>
> Recommendations on singles/albums

Get the G Spot CD with the live CD included if you can.  I love that
stuff.  Very mellow, a nice sound.  Distinct.  It's nice to listen to if
your on a bus or train.

> Also,  I have been offered a Roland MC 303 Groovebox
> Anybody got one?
>
> Are the sounds as good as the TB303 TB909 !!!

No.  It's a digital machine so it doesn't reproduce in the same way as
the 303, you can't really screw with it.

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Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 15:31:12 -0400
From: "=?iso-8859-1?Q?Aim=E9e_Couture?=" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) rip kemistry

kemistry (of kemistry + storm) has died as a result of a car crash in the
us..
she will be missed.. she was a great dj and a role model for females by
excelling in a career that not many females are a part of..
kemi we love you.. go tear shit up with stevie hyper d..

if you want to leave a message to be sent to her agency, go to
http://www.breakbeat.co.uk/jungle/kemistry.html

~plur~
aim=E9e
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Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 22:01:13 +0100
From: "SteveC" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) rip kemistry (OFF TOPIC?)

>kemistry (of kemistry + storm) has died as a result of a car crash in the
>us..
>she will be missed.. she was a great dj and a role model for females by
>excelling in a career that not many females are a part of..
>kemi we love you.. go tear shit up with stevie hyper d..

Hyper 'D' huh? He does One Nation d'n'b/jungle IIRC..... Andy 'C' rocks..
Det and Skibbade.... and 5ive'o'  cool...

heh

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Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 02:01:30 +0100
From: Jon Green <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) peel gig

At 16:12 25/04/99 +0100, Price, Steve A wrote:
>
>What did everyone think of the PEEL night. I thought it was a tight gig,
>near perfect sound (not enough bass! for me....haha). I was disappointed
>that they never played Open Mind and the support act just sucked imho.

Was that the difference between that and the Brixton gigs? I knew there was
something missing... I quite liked Cornelius, though the bloody strobes
made my eyes hurt :-(

Three Orbital gigs in a month.. can't complain ;-)

Jon

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Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 01:58:56 +0100
From: Jon Green <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) d'n'b

At 22:01 26/04/99 +0100, SteveC wrote:
>
>Hyper 'D' huh? He does One Nation d'n'b/jungle IIRC..... Andy 'C' rocks..
>Det and Skibbade.... and 5ive'o'  cool...

can't beat the No-U-Turn/Ed Rush/Optical stuff for top d'n'b. And oldish
Doc Scott (Unofficial Ghost). Of course the old '92 'Some Justice' beats
the lot, but then I'm old so I would say that...


Jon

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Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 02:05:04 +0100
From: Jon Green <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) Speedy J (OFF TOPIC)

At 19:34 26/04/99 +0000, [e-mail] wrote:
>
>Has anyone on this list heard of Speedy J.
>
>Is he any good?
>What type of stuff does he do , Techno, Trip Hop, House etc?

depends on whether you're talking about recently or not. G Spot is pretty
old, but the live CD is great. I love his more recent stuff - the last
album 'Public Energy No./ 1' is brilliant and the singles from that time
are too. His remix for Depeche Mode was about the only decent remix they've
had recently.
You might find some useful info on Novamute's website.


Jon

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Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 21:08:39 -0400 (EDT)
From: Aronne James Merrelli <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) Re: Speedy J (still OFF TOPIC)

Excerpts from lists: 26-Apr-99 (orbital) Speedy J (OFF TOPIC) by
[e-mail]
> Is he any good?
> What type of stuff does he do , Techno, Trip Hop, House etc?
>
> Recommendations on singles/albums
>

He does techno / trance / house / ambient. Many of his albums sound
completely different, actually, so beware.
His very early stuff is typical 4/4 house stuff, released on plus8.
Then he was more trancey-technoy with G-spot (warp records, I think).
I would recommend that one, assuming you are into orbitalish-style
music (a safe asssumption I guess :) ). Don't know too much
about Ginger, the next album,  but I think its a bit different than
G-spot. His latest stuff, Public energy number 1, is very hard techno,
and also a beatless ambient CD on FAX. I can't remember the name of
that one, it was very odd so I forgot it. In the vein of the
ambient fills on G-Spot, I think, so that is probably a good one.

He also did a co-op CD with Mike Paradinas (u-Ziq) on planet Mu,
I haven't heard that but the reviews were pretty good. (its on
my "to buy" list, for what its worth :) )

Ok, I think I've said enough, feel free to E-mail me offlist
if ya want.


Later,
    Aronne.


PS, Oh, also, I should add this cool quite from him
(one of my favorite quotes because it is a good description
of the electronic-music listening process for me   :) )




" If I hear something, my brain remembers it as something visual rather
than something in sound, I remember sounds by the way they look more than
the way they sound, and that works in both ways. If I hear something I
remember it by the way it looks, but also when I have an idea it's a
graphic idea, it's like a structure or a texture, a shape or a colour or
something like that, and I translate that into audio."



                        - Speedy J (Jochem Paap), June 17, 1997





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Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 21:51:46 -0600
From: "[halcyon]" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) mc 303

ill sell you mine, then you would know for sure. :) the drum machine part
isnt bad, but you cant tweak very much like the tb303 (which i like a lot
better)

At about 07:34 PM 4/26/1999 +0000, the gods responsible for e-mail urged
you to write:
>
>Also,  I have been offered a Roland MC 303 Groovebox
>Anybody got one?
>
>Are the sounds as good as the TB303 TB909 !!!
>
>Sorry for the OFF TOPIC!!
>


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Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 10:47:56 +0200
From: "Natalie" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) Re: Speedy J (still OFF TOPIC)

Check out http://www.speedyj.com unofficial Speedy J website. All the info
you need including RA of most rereases.

Naat.


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Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 18:29:50 +0100
From: Jon Green <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) Re: Speedy J (still OFF TOPIC)

At 21:08 26/04/99 -0400, Aronne James Merrelli wrote:
>
>
>He also did a co-op CD with Mike Paradinas (u-Ziq) on planet Mu,
>I haven't heard that but the reviews were pretty good. (its on
>my "to buy" list, for what its worth :) )

I'd recommend moving it up your list. It's a great album.


Jon

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Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 17:35:00 -0400
From: "Shannon K. Campbell" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) MORE Orbital Events Listed!

(here comes a lurker, slithering out from under his rock)

2 more Orbital Events Listed on new page!

It may be hard to get tickets, and one event apparently has already
happened March 26th.
!Steve! did you make it to that one?

http://www.eye.utmem.edu/education/events.html

[If you're gonna get pissed off at my pathetic misdirection, then don't
even bother to try this link. I have a habit of sending in ANYTHING with
the word Orbital in it. I just really wanted to say HEY EVERYBODY! and
When is Phil and Paul coming to Merle Fest?
{Merle Haggard, that is} :)

Hey Steve [and P&P], thanks for Style video. It's gonna have to do 'til
U$ release as I ain't got $40 for an import. [Po' folks dig da tech 2!]
Maybe someone could call and play it over the phone for me?

Bad Packaging Update!
Be wary of cds in cool metal boxes. A recent purchase of a ChannelZ
[ChainReaction] disc was disappointing as after the second listen, I
snappeded it back onto the flange of its beautimous metal case and it
split the disc [of course from the center outward! As Aimee says "GRR"].
I heard a rumor that these people hate CDs and thus this package was
designed to difficult to make [and apparently to KEEP, as well].
Anybody wanna testify?

One last item! To Morey, my southern compadre' over in NCarolina: Sorry
about all that stuff awhile ago re: Northern Exposure Pt.2 Disc.
It's a bit slower over on the Tennessee side of the Smokies and I
thought you were talking about a compilation from the TV show, "Northern
Exposure". PS: The first[?] one from the TV show is really good, but no
there aint no tech on it. Sorry fer my dumbassity...

Cyaz.

Shannon
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      _____________________
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Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 21:36:39 -0400
From: "Patrick McGinn" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) Fw: (idm) Underworld 12"s

Thought some of you may be interested.  I am not the seller, Pietro is
([e-mail]).  I've dealt with him before and it was great.  He runs a
record store somewhere in Canada.

Xaos
80 97 116 114 105 99 107 32 77 99 71 105 110 110

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To: <[e-mail]>
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Subject: (idm) Underworld 12"s


>
> I'd like to trade/sell these 12"s if
> anyone's interested. Please send me
> your trade list(s) and offers off list,
> thanks..
>
> . UNDERWORLD - "King of Snake" - (Dave Clark/Kittens) - JB05005826P - JBO
> . UNDERWORLD - "King of Snake" - (KofS/Dave Angel Rework) -
JB05005816P -JBO
> . UNDERWORLD - "Push Upstairs" - - V2AB-27561-1B - JBO
> (Full Length of It/Roger S Blue Plastik People Remix) - V2AB-27561-1B -
JBO
> . UNDERWORLD - "Push Upstairs" - V2B-27573-1A - JBO
> (Large Unit/Adam Beyer Rmx/Darren Price Rmx) - V2B-27573-1A - JBO
>
> Pietro.
>
> (Don't worry laerm, i'll wait for your response..)
> _______________________________
> Pietro Da Sacco, [e-mail]
> Grooves Magazine ...
> http://www.rain.org/~audio/grooves/
> The Circular Cosmic Spot ...
> http://www.sdriver.com/spot
>
>




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Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 11:22:02 +0200
From: Michael Lyons <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) Re: Speedy J (still OFF TOPIC)

> Don't know too much  about Ginger, the next [Speedy J] album,  but I think
> its a bit different than...


Actually, Ginger predates G Spot, and is considered one of the breakthrough
records on so-called "intelligent dance" music. "Pepper" is a standout track
on that LP. He also appeared on the Warp Artificial Intelligence discs with
the likes of Autechre.

Artistically, I would indeed compare him to Orbital, especially prior to what I
now  consider to be their "landscape/soundtrack" phase, if you know what I
mean.

Mike
Amsterdam

p.s. I saw Orbital at the Paradiso in Amsterdam on April 15th. It was my
first time seeing them, and they just rocked the house! I recorded the show,
but since I was wearing the mike, there's *lots* and *lots* of parts where
I'm hooting or (even worse) "singing" along. :-( I also got to chat with P&P
during the sound check, and was quite impressed at how unprententious and
open they were.  They'll be back in Amsterdam on May 29th, so perhaps I
will plug
into the mixing desk as was actually offered to me in Paradiso (I am an idiot,
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Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 17:31:20 +0100
From: Jon Green <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) Re: Speedy J and a bit of Orbital

At 11:22 28/04/99 +0200, Michael Lyons wrote:
>
>Artistically, I would indeed compare him to Orbital, especially prior to
what I
>now  consider to be their "landscape/soundtrack" phase, if you know what I
>mean.

Especially as his style has also changed, but in the opposite direction.
Orbital got real smooth and 'cinematic' while Speedy J got loads harder (if
you can get harder than being credited in part with inventing gabba...).
But his old stuff definitely sits well with Orbital's older stuff. And his
new stuff sits well with the best around. The 3 Phase (Sven Rohrig and
Speedy J) 'Snafu Sessions' single is great too (forgot to mention that
before).


re orbital: Steve, you said Schematix has remixed the new single - have you
heard it? Any chances of a preview on Loopz?

Jon

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Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 16:12:13 -0700
From: "morpheus" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) post-Easter oral diarrhea (pardon the spelling)

>I also completely broke down when I heard the Ram Trilogy remix of Krust's
>Warhead. It's probabbly my favourite hardstep tune :)


I just recently got this on Vinyl and it kicks ass.  It's a part of the
Planet V compilation that I bought for $90 cdn on vinyl.  It's awesome.  If
anyone wants to some good dark/jazzy drum and bass, get this compilation.
It's also available on cd.  It's strange, cdnow says that they have this
compilation on vinyl for $17.99, but it's 8 records and I can't see them
selling it for that cheap.  Does anyone know why they have it at this price?
Sites in the UK have the equivalent price to mine in pounds.
anyway, cya
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Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 14:33:37 -0700
From: "morpheus" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) mon

Hey,

I got The Middle of Nowhere over the weekend (payed almost $35 cdn for it)
and I do have to say that I love it.  However, I find that they are
progressing backwards in quality.  I find the songs on In Sides were of
greater quality (or maybe it's just because I love that cd so much)  Nothing
Left and Knowhere to Run are my favourite tracks.  I find the beginning to
Knowhere to run almost sounds like an Orbital B-Side and then it progresses
into an amzing song (5;00 is my favourite).  I don't really like I don't
Know you People, it's not as melodic as Orbital usually is and in some parts
sounds almost noisey.  Way out sounds so familiar.  I swear it was used for
a Sci-Fi movie a couple of years back.  And I also like An Fhomhair better
than Otono.  The packaging is more along the lines of Autechre and not
Orbital.  But, Overall I do have to say that I love the cd and am very happy
that they didn't sell out, however I did't think that they would.
cya
morpheus


peace
morpheus


- -the world can be a simple place if you want it to be-


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Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 17:52:35 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (orbital) mon

In a message dated 99-04-28 17:36:03 EDT, [e-mail] writes:

<< I got The Middle of Nowhere over the weekend (payed almost $35 cdn for it)
>>

I just ordered it too for that price- I put a 2-day on it so I could get it
by Friday!  Man I hope it's better than the "Style" singles........I haven't
listened to those since I bought them........please, Orbital list, don't hate
me!

Brent


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Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 21:00:30 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: (orbital) me-good-bad

allright its been a looong time since I've been online. and for a number of
reasons my lifes been hell. well, school has seemed to be building up
pressure in my life. I dealt with alot of shite from the students, teachers
and staff. I dealt with even more shite withh this littleton colorado
shooting. I have been accused of being like the gunmen, I have been accused
of being crazy, people thought I was going to shoot kids in school, all
because of my appearance. so I quit school, sort of, I am doing a homebound
thing for the rest of the year, I get my work for the week and am expected to
do it at home. next year is an alternative program. I lost my hair, all 7
inches of it. you see I got some great dreadlocks, blue, green and yellow. my
parents flipped and pulled a devious stunt on me. they cut off my hair while
I was sleeping. so I left home for three days. serves em right the effs. but
the only good news I have... I got the new album. hell yeah. spent some
thirty bucks on the thing, but I got it. I dont even know how it was in the
store. well, its held me together over the past weeks. good album it is.
esspecially nothing left parts one and two. it gets me feeling sad and
depressed, makes me want to leave, or cry or something, seeing as my lifes
been turned upside down and theres nothing left, than the secound part kicks
in and reminds me that since theres nothing left that I've got a clean
pallett for the next part of my life. well, that was a long peice of my life
summed up in a very short horrible way. well. I'll go now.

sam
long haired freak no more.


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