> I think that their cover/case idea is brilliant and so original.
Are you sure? I find that "interesting" is the strongest word I'd use...
I find it is in the same vein as the "2 or 3 patches of flat-colored
squares" type of painting...
Minimalistic. Not brilliant. Original? Well, every CD I have has a
silver-shiny-rainbow side, the only originality of Ae is that they have two!
If you're looking for brilliant, get a second, long look at Orbital's In
Sides. Original? Rush's Counterparts was my favorite before In Sides... And
figuring out the print on Underworld's Dubnobasswithmyheadman or which
bodyparts are used for Aphex Twin's RDJ album can be entertaining on a rainy
day...
Hey the subject of the message was shopping, well I finally found Polygon
Window's Surfing on sine waves in Montreal this weekend! woohoo! And I
didn't even have to go to their huge HMV (which I regret not having done -
I'll have to return). I also bought mu-ziq's lunatic harness, which is not
quite so much a rarity, and it's the only one I've had time to listen to
until now, and I'm not terribly excited yet, but I think I'll end up liking
it.
blah blah blah!
Derf
+------------------------------------+
| even a stopped clock |
| gives the right time twice a day |
| |
| fourni01@gel.ulaval.ca |
| http://www.gel.ulaval.ca/~fourni01 |
| ICQ 4731515 |
+------------------------------------+
# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com.
# To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender.
# Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital
------------------------------
Date: Wed, 05 Aug 1998 17:50:13 +0000
From: michael palisano <lasermouse@worldnet.att.net>
Subject: (orbital) New Orbital album... from hell!!!
A nightmare tracklist....
1. "I'm a raver wanna-be!" - madonna on vocals
** to grab attention of 'rolling stone' and 'spin'
2. "I'm a scary fire-breathing dragon!" - keith flint on vocals?
** to grab attention of 'raygun' and 'alternative press'
3. Collaboration with Filter - "Quality Seconds (crystal method remix)"
4. Puff Daddy, Jimmy Page and Orbital do "Stairway in Heaven" for the
next Star Wars movie.
5. 7 minutes of Belching and vomiting (looped and unlooped, looped again
like 'time becomes' on brown - busted up by "Rock Me Amadeus" sample
just to annoy anyone who may have gotten into the song's groove.)
** so the mainstream US press doesn't mistake Orbital for the "Next
big thing."
6. Second CD: 75 minute long collaboration with Goldie and Alex
Patterson that is so boring it makes you wish you were dead. only good
part is 30 seconds buried in middle that Goldie and Alex Patterson let
Orbital do themselves.
he-he
MP
# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com.
# To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender.
# Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital
------------------------------
Date: Wed, 05 Aug 1998 18:58:59 -0400
From: Danny Colquhoun <af898@chebucto.ns.ca>
Subject: (orbital) Aphex Twin Merchandise
I'm really hankering for a new hat, and I would really like a nice black
one with a silver or white Aphex logo on the front. Where can I get
some Aphex Twin stuff? I'm looking for an online catalog kinda thing.
- --
If a synchronized swimmer starts to drown,
does the partner have to drown too?
My rather bad web page at: http://datasquid.home.ml.org
# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com.
# To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender.
# Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital
------------------------------
Date: Thu, 6 Aug 1998 01:00:44 +0100
From: "Price, Steve A" <Steve.Price@capgemini.co.uk>
Subject: (orbital) Loud distorted AE bass and Mick
>>Steve LOOPZ Price
>>Orbital Zine.
>>www.hyperreal.org/loopz
>mail me ya slag :P
>Mick
Sorry m8....been a tad busy... ;)
Strange mixed reviews of AE live...some reporting of loud distorted bass
that wrecked the whole feel of the gig...sound familar Mick ?
Steve LOOPZ Price
Orbital Zine
www.hyperreal.org/loopz
# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com.
# To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender.
# Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital
------------------------------
Date: Thu, 6 Aug 1998 01:04:34 +0100
From: "Price, Steve A" <Steve.Price@capgemini.co.uk>
Subject: (orbital) Top Aimee
>There. I can be a good gurl and get my point across without flaming.
>
>Aimee
Nice call Aimee...and a good point...which i can relate too.
Although....the person who asked for videos...u can view low quality
streamed Orbital videos at Loopz...but i dont do Mpegs or Mp3s neither
:)
Steve LOOPZ Price
Orbital Zine
www.hyperreal.org/loopz
# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com.
# To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender.
# Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital
------------------------------
Date: Wed, 5 Aug 1998 23:27:55 -0500
From: Sean Granger <granger@megsinet.net>
Subject: Re: (orbital) Aimee and her mp3s
<Saved me a few bucks, by preventing me from buying a CD
<that I would not have liked...
~snip~
<mp3's of rare stuff, that I might not be able
<to buy, or if there is like 1 track on an album that I like but
<the rest of it sucks
this is the way i rationalize them too, or more then once i've downloaded full cds when I didn't have the money, then bought the cd later and erased the mp3s (case in point: "Vegas").
# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com.
# To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender.
# Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital
------------------------------
Date: Thu, 6 Aug 1998 09:35:50 GMT
From: Andy Jackson <A.Z.JACKSON@dundee.ac.uk>
Subject: (orbital) Re: Cygnus X and Dub Definition
> Has anyone heard the CD Hypermetrical by Cygnus X? How would you
> describe it?
The LP is a typical mid-period Eye-Q trance output - all stuff up
around 140bpm, lots of rolling sequencer patterns and lush strings.
It's one of the best of Eye-Qs output in my opinion, but if I have a
critiscism I'd say it was a little bit samey. However, if you care
about trance it's something you should have in your collection...
> > ps i can't believe nobody bothered to answer my question on
> > what dub is...
>
> Yeah, I'd like a specific definition of that myself. Actually, I've looked quite a bit
> around the net and found nothing that adequately defines remixing terminology.
'Dub' was originally a mutation of roots reggae in the mid-70s. The
invention of the sound was credited to Jamaican producer King Tubby
(Osborne Ruddock) who took reggae standards and totally remixed them,
preserving bass and drums and dropping bits of the vocals, keyboards
and rhythm guitars into the mix, treating them with massive reverb
and echo chamber effects to create a mesmerising and 'druggy'
psychedelic sound. A trademark of the sound was also the 'space'
between beats - sounds were given space to breathe and not crammed
together in layers of overproduced slabs of noise. This, in
particular, is a style which, once heard will immediately define the
dub sound.
A lot of reggae LPs were remixed this way and one could
often buy a 'dubplate' version of an artist's LP. Dub producers to
follow in Tubby's wake were Scientist, Prince Jammy and Lee 'Scratch'
Perry. The sound influenced a lot of late 70s/early 80s punk/new
wave, but the death of King Tubby in a shooting in 1983 (I think) was
a serious setback to the movement. The chief exponent of the Dub
sound in the UK was/is Adrian Sherwood. More or less everything on
his On-U Sound label bears some debt to the King Tubby Dub sound.
Also try Mad Professor's 'No Protection' remix LP of Massive Attack's
'Protection'.
The 'Dub Version' one finds on forms of music other than reggae has
long since forgotten the roots and principles of the original
reggae dub sound - most Dub Mixes are simply instrumentals with the
instruments being dropped into the mix when the remixer/producer
feels like it, but usually minus the trademark
reverb/echo/distortion. There are notable exceptions to this
generalisation - try The Orb's first LP, KLF's 'Chill Out', Jah
Wobble's reggae experiments, Primal Scream's 'Screamadelica' and the
remix of their latest LP 'Echo Dek'. Underworld and, to some extent,
Orbital use Dub concepts to give theire music a spacey, atmospheric
feel. My feeling is that most 'Dub' versions of house/techno tunes
are just cheap and unoriginal remixes with little or no resemblance
to the original sound of dub.
Hope this helps!
Andy Jackson
"I went to a general store. They wouldn't let me buy anything specifically."
(Stephen Wright)
# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com.
# To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender.
# Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital
------------------------------
Date: 06 Aug 1998 08:51:01 +0000
From: sven.bang@posten.no
Subject: (orbital) Aimee and her mp3s... oddly enough i arrived at under
I don't really care about mp3s but...
> >the person who had bought second toughest in the infants from underworld...
> >get your hands asap on dubnobasswithmyheadman... and if you can find
> >rez/cowgirl and spikee...
> >wouter hermans
Have you seen the video for rez? It's absolutely brilliant! Alot of their other videos are great
too, but rez kicks some butt. It's all about sex, very sublimely, you got to watch carefully.
And I know what you feel about live gigs with underworld, they are one of the best live bands
I've ever seen -despite their introvertiveness, or maybe because of it.
Sven T.
# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com.
# To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender.
# Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital
------------------------------
Date: 06 Aug 1998 08:54:03 +0000
From: sven.bang@posten.no
Subject: Re: (orbital) remixing definitions
>
> >Dub: A new style of reggae which emerged in the late 70s. Very chill
> and often accentuating
> >bass-lines. Basically the hashish version of reggae(Very cool to play
> when you're stoned).
> >I forgot to add - also very cool to listen to when you're stoned.
>
> Tell me what's NOT cool to listen to when you're stoned.
Well...
Sven T.
# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com.
# To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender.
# Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital
------------------------------
Date: Thu, 6 Aug 1998 01:15:37 +0100
From: "Price, Steve A" <Steve.Price@capgemini.co.uk>
Subject: (orbital) Defining the word "bootleg" and Orbitals actual view
Thats Phils point of view and im sure he was referring to live bootlegs
not official recordings.
Just like to point out that the term "bootleg" is most commonly used for
live recordings...rather than official recordings that are ripped off
and you will find that Live Bootlegs are treated as an ok thing by Paul
(i know for sure...dont know Phils view).
They dont want to be ripped off - so any official recordings burned to
cd or mp3d is seen as a bad thing in their eyes. A conversation (with
Paul) only last week produced this comment (not quoted exactly).
"Recording things to tape for someone is seen as an ok thing to do,
everyone does it. But putting stuff on CD just dont seem right...not too
sure why...but it aint".
At the end of the day...its their income that we would be ripping off
...
Steve LOOPZ Price
Orbital Zine
www.hyperreal.org/loopz
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>Date: Wed, 5 Aug 1998 12:14:31 -0500
>From: Chris Kloehr <ckloehr@TAASCFORCE.com>
>Subject: RE: (orbital) Aimee and her mp3s
>
>To be very blunt........Let's see what the guys think:
>
>M=A0- =A0 How do you guys feel about your music going across on the
>Internet?=20
> Phil=A0-=A0 It's smart. It's good.=20
>M=A0 - You're being very generous with letting us record stuff like =
>this,
>with a profit free webcast. There's a lot of bands that would utterly
>panic about this, claim ownership and not want to have this happen.=20>
> Paul=A0 - Put it this way: If I walk through Camden market
>and see a bootleg of one of our gigs, I smile, I'm happy about it, you
>know what I mean? I think it's good because it never takes over. Music
>on the Internet might one day, but the quality normally is sub CD
>standard so people sort of decide whether they like something but they
>go out and buy a CD anyway.=20
>
>Obviously there is a fine line.....I think we should know where to draw
>it.
# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com.
# To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender.
# Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital
------------------------------
Date: Thu, 6 Aug 1998 16:46:19 +0100
From: Tim <tim@jlwynne.demon.co.uk>
Subject: Re: (orbital) remixing definitions
"Benjamin Szabo" writes
>
>>Dub: A new style of reggae which emerged in the late 70s. Very chill
>and often accentuating
>>bass-lines. Basically the hashish version of reggae(Very cool to play
>when you're stoned).
>>I forgot to add - also very cool to listen to when you're stoned.
>
>Tell me what's NOT cool to listen to when you're stoned.
>
Puff Daddy ? Boyzone ? Bowie in his Disco era?
- --
Tim W . email: tim@jlwynne.demon.co.uk
. timothy.wynne@stud.umist.ac.uk
"Shop now, riot later" . UMIST, Manchester, England
- - message found on London banknote . tel & SMS : (+44) 958 747 643
# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com.
# To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender.
# Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital
------------------------------
Date: Thu, 6 Aug 1998 11:59:16 -0400 (EDT)
From: James Brostek <crash@baked.net>
Subject: Re: (orbital) Defining the word "bootleg" and Orbitals actual view
: everyone does it. But putting stuff on CD just dont seem right...not too
: sure why...but it aint".
Why not? I use cd's like tapes. Better quality and the sound never
degrades since cd's take so long to wear out. Yes you can wear out a
burnable cd, but it takes lots and lots of reads to do so. Anyway, in
todays world its normal. Phillips just came out with a cd burner for
audio only. With that you can make mix cd's like you used to do with
tapes. I did that myself. I took every track I love from all the orbital
albums and burnt it to one cd' opening up 5 slots in my car changer. I
think redistribution of copyrighted material is just wrong. But everyone
I know has copied a released tape or taped a cd for someone else. It's
how society works. But I have seen all of this work as free publicity for
groups as I give my friend a copy of sniv and he buys every cd orbital has
ever releaased that he could get his hands on.
I wont touch boots, but in the end I think everyone likes boots, since
live shows are soo hard to come by.
James Brostek
Crash or Cra5h on IRC
"Some C programmers refer to the # operator as "stringization"; others
feel that this term is too great an abuse of the English Language"
-K. N. King
# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com.
# To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender.
# Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital
------------------------------
Date: Thu, 06 Aug 1998 17:27:39 +0000
From: Jon Green <zcapn33@ucl.ac.uk>
Subject: (orbital) The visit
At 12:16 05/08/98 -0400, Ken Pittman wrote:
>Good point, and it reminds me of something I wanted to ask. Is "The Visit"
>by Orbital available anywhere on CD? If not is it available (sorry Aimee) in
>MP3? I have looked everywhere for it, I WANT to buy it. Thanks for any help.
Well I got it on mp3 ages back, I think it was from Loopz, but I could be
wrong. It might still be there.
Wouter Hermans wrote:
>argh i hate the reply thing... first you think "weird, howcome my mails
>don't show up in the list" and then you remember that of the 3 lists you are
>subscribed too, only the dirtylist mails reply to the list directly...
Oh the joys of using a mailer that has two reply buttons, one of which
replies to the original sender and the other to the list. Shame it only
works like that on this one... You could check the header on the reply
before you send it.
>>>"watching windows. do they know what i know ?"
>>for some reason i like/dislike that reprazent song...
Eh? like/dislike? How's that work then?? I really like the Ed Rush/Optical
mix, but as I hate nearly all jazz-jungle I obviously don;t like the
original.
>i have 3 mp3's... one of them is underworld's born slippy (not the nuxx, but
>the difficult-to-find-it-seems one).
Not that difficult, it's on one of the Pearl's Girl CDs.
cheers,
Jon
- -
Jon Green zcapn33@ucl.ac.uk
"Keep hens from fencing with hen fencing from Roberts' Hen Fencing"
# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com.
# To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender.
# Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital
------------------------------
Date: Thu, 6 Aug 1998 18:18:26 +0100
From: "Price, Steve A" <Steve.Price@capgemini.co.uk>
Subject: (orbital) Official Release Bootlegs - continued
Loopz wrote
: everyone does it. But putting stuff on CD just dont seem right...not
too
: sure why...but it aint".
Crash wrote
>It's
>how society works. But I have seen all of this work as free publicity for
>groups as I give my friend a copy of sniv and he buys every cd orbital has
>ever releaased that he could get his hands on.
Everyone does it...so like sheep will follow ? I certainly wouldnt
necessary do summit because every tom, dick and harry are doing it....i
got a mind of my own...principles.
Although if everyone was like your friend who listens, likes and then
Buys the release...then there wouldnt be a problem. Not everyone is like
that...i know im just as guilty with other groups releases ...but with
Orbital i wont rip em off.
Thanx
Steve LOOPZ Price
Orbital Zine
www.hyperreal.org/loopz
# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com.
# To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender.
# Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital
------------------------------
Date: Thu, 06 Aug 1998 10:28:31 PDT
From: "Mehul Parekh" <mpp001@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: (orbital) Official Release Bootlegs - continued
Steve:
Truly I understand how you feel about Orbital and so do I. But I love
Orbital. Most of my cd collection consists of Orbital. And I am always
trying to get more. But I dont have the old stuff. And if I cant get
it (which I cant) anymore then why is it wrong to get a cd copy from
someone? I mean, if I really like the songs, then the tape version will
become worn out very quickly.
It's just a way to finish a collection. I want to have the originals,
