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orbital-digest         Tuesday, July 28 1998         Volume 02 : Number 103




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Date: Sat, 25 Jul 1998 01:07:37 -0400 (EDT)
From: Doug Radcliffe <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) In Order to Dance 5

Also, does anyone have the compilation, In Order to Dance 5?

It is a 3 CD set according to Action Records, and pretty cheap too.  Just
curious how it is.. if they are full length CDs etc.

thanks!




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Date: Sat, 25 Jul 1998 02:55:27 -0700
From: "morpheus" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) Ae

Hey,

Was at Virgin today, and was checking out LP5.  Quite an amazing cd.  I
wanted to buy it, but they wanted $26.99 cdn.  Although the cd is worth it,
I think I can get it for less off of the internet.  Odd packaging.  I
couldn't figure out what cd it was until I listened to it.  I was looking
for a copyright, but the sticker that had all of the cd info was covered up
by the fucking price tag.  They have so much space, and they cover up what
you need to see everytime.  Instead I bought the Basscadet EP which I've
wanted for a while, and Air's Moon Safari.  Not bad although Kelly, watch
the stars is the highlight, and really the only trak that stands out besides
Sexy Boy.  What do you all think.
cya
morpheus

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Date: Sat, 25 Jul 1998 11:33:07 +0100
From: Jon Green <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) In Order to Dance 5

At 01:07 25/7/98 -0400, Doug Radcliffe wrote:
>
>
>
>Also, does anyone have the compilation, In Order to Dance 5?

Yes and it's excellent, from the days when R&S mattered (unlike nowadays).=
=20

>It is a 3 CD set according to Action Records, and pretty cheap too.

The 3CD set was the limited edition version, and I thought they'd all gone
immediately, so I didn't mind only getting the 2CD version. The 2 CDs are
full-length, but I think the third only has five or so tracks on it,
including a remix of Plastikman's wonderful 'Spastik' that I would love to
get my hands on. Actually what I'd really like is the even-more-limited
edition in the battery powered lightbox thing, but that cost =A3160 when new=
,
so God knows what it'll cost now!=20

>  Just curious how it is..

Well worth paying a 'normal' price for, and I'd say definitely get it if
it's cheap.=20

The style of the music is quite varied (though all techno, loosely
speaking), from really hard tuff like Basic Channel to really smooth jazzy
stuff like Carl Craig's 'At Les'. And Aphex's 'Polynomial G' is on there.
And mu-ziq's 'Phi*1700[u/v]', and Biosphere, and CJ Bolland, and loads more
that I can't be bothered to list.=20

Get it.


cheers,
Jon


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Date: Sat, 25 Jul 1998 07:53:40 -0400
From: "=?iso-8859-1?B?RnLpZOlyaWMgRm91cm5pZXI=?=" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) Beaumont Hannant

>Does anyone have some or many CDs from Beaumont Hannant?
>
>I heard a song by this group (or person) called Mind Colours that I
>enjoyed.  What is the overall style of the CDs?  More ambient and less
>"beaty" than Orbital?


Well all I can say is this, the Beaumont Hannant mix of Basscadet on
Basscad-ep (Autechre) is a very good track!



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Date: Sat, 25 Jul 1998 07:59:00 -0400
From: "=?iso-8859-1?B?RnLpZOlyaWMgRm91cm5pZXI=?=" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) Ae

What is LP5's CD packaging like? The vinyl is 2 lp's in a slightly rough,
beige/grey plain cardboard pocket and the inner sleeves for the 2 lp's are
U-shaped and white.


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Date: Sat, 25 Jul 1998 10:59:48 +0100
From: "Price, Steve A" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) Richard H Kirk/ Micky Mann / Cylob and one half of Orbital

All,

Just got back after an hectic 3 day trip to London - down there on Work
business ... a Novell course (yawn) but by the night i was enjoying
myself.

During the visit i made a brief visit to the studio just to drop a few
things off for Paul. Micky Mann (Pressure of Speech) was there helping
out on a mix of the last but ONE track from the new album - top friendly
bloke. Paul made a few comments about Diggers shirts btw (are u ready
for this Digger!) - loved the idea - thought it would be hilarious if
his Dad would wear a T-Shirt with "new age travellers..." on it. :)

Thursday night i went to the Isslington small farty Richard H Kirk
(Cabaret Voiltaire) gig at the Garage with Paul H, his GF and Jones.
Small hot room full of journos and Record Company representives...
Support Act was just a wall of noise - very annoying - but yaknow he
just wanted to hear people shout "F?$? Off" to him. Richard H Kirk
himself - played a mixture of styles - generally upbeat - nice mixture
of breakbeats as well. The whole night was over quite quick - only to
see Cylob (Afx type artist) grab the mike of the mixing desk and shout
various abuse to the crowd. Before anyone could react Paul had disarmed
him of the mike and lowered the volume. Hey...who says he can only
compose music. Paul the bouncer!

Its good to be back  - need more sleep ;)

Steve LOOPZ Price
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Date: Sat, 25 Jul 1998 10:23:56 +0100
From: "Price, Steve A" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) Neil McLelland and Gareth Jones - Are We Here

Tim W Wrote>
>       After "They did it" there are two names listed after an asterix
>- - "Neil McLelland and Gareth Jones". Any hints to what this meant?
>
>        I am pretty sure that they didn't remix it or produce it - "All
>tracks written and produced by P&P Hartnoll"
>
>There is no other mention of these blokes on the CD. Hmmm. How strange.

They did remix it...but didnt write it or produce it. Its not a bad mix
IMHO.

Steve LOOPZ Price
Back from London...<yawn>


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Date: Sat, 25 Jul 1998 10:46:34 +0100
From: "Price, Steve A" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) Orbital / Underworld / LEftfield new albums

Jon wrote
>We can only hope Orbital, Underworld
>and Leftfield match it, and then this'll be the greatest year ever.
>Assuming, of course, they all get their fingers out and finish their albums
>this year.

I dont think that is the problem with Underworld and i know for a fact
that it isnt the problem with Orbital. Orbital are a least one month
from completion - but the Record Company will most likely waver the idea
of releasing the album this side of Xmas. The RC view is avoid releasing
"this" type of music in the later half of the year before Xmas - it
would sell better in January. I know this is obsurd, but the Record
Company call the final shots on most artists/groups and money is the end
result in their eyes.

Still no release date for Orbital album....but if you read the above - u
may guess where it most likely will end up coming out....sad !


Thanx

Steve LOOPZ Price
Orbital Zine



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Date: Sat, 25 Jul 1998 21:05:06 +0100
From: "Price, Steve A" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) Loopz 5 is out / Past Live Bootleg 4 Sale - i forgot to mention this ;)

All,

Those on the Loopz mailing list will already know about this.

ISSUE 5 OF LOOPZ IS OUT and features various articles including an
interview with u-ziq. Check the ISSUE section on Loopz for more details
- - www.hyperreal.org/loopz

Also...ive got a fair few "Past / Live" bootlegs that my good friend
Zed-Pool created (with some help from me). Its basically a compilation
of Live recordings from 1992 to 1997. 9 tracks in total shown below:-

Walk Now (live NL 94)
Crash and Carry (ditto)
Naked and the Dead (Bham UK 93)
Dwr Budr (Boston, US 96)
Halcyon (Glasto UK 94)
Belfast (ditto)
Steel Cube Idoltry (Norwich, UK, 1992!!!!!)
Chime (Alexandra Palace - Big Ben version (one off) - UK - New Years Eve
96/97)
Impact (Pheonix Festival, UK 97)

All the recordings are FM or Mixing desk quality - i wouldnt agree to
help out unless the recording were good ones. A few already have this
off the Loopz list - good feedback just like the Oscillate Bootleg that
Zed-Pool did.

Price for zine and cd for uk is 13 pounds
price for zine and cd for us is 14 pounds

ALl the usual rules about English money or International Cheque for
English money apply - but PLEASE email me and ill give u some more
detail on this in case you dont know.

I think thats it... mail me at [e-mail] or
[e-mail].

and no....its not an Official release.

Thanx

Steve LOOPZ Price
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Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1998 21:24:08 -0400
From: "Morey Gamble" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Fw: Message Bounce: [Fwd: (orbital) Jean-Michel Jarre]

> >
> > > > Ooh, here's an interesting story. My copy of Equinoxe is the
original
> > > > French vinyl release which I got from Bob Moog, who got it from
Jarre.. He
> > > > gave it to my dad and said it was (at the time) the best use of
> > > > synthesizers he had heard.. Pretty big compliment coming from the
man
> > > > himself..
> > >
> > > Moog... That's the guy behind W.Carlos's electronic takes on Bach and
> > > Beethoven in the 60's... Jarre usually lists the equipment he's used
making
> > > his CD's, and there always are Moogs (though I dont know exactly what
they
> > > are in the end).
> > > And.. What did your dad do for a living to have such connections?
> >
> >     There's a lot more to moog than that... He generally credited with
the
> > invention of the synthesizer as we know it today.. He took some of the
previous
> > designs on analog synthesis (which he also had a hand in) and put them
together
> > with a keyboard, so that anyone could play it, not just scientists..
That was
> > the basis for all his work, to allow anyone to be able to use all those
> > wonderful sounds.. He's still doing it today, too. The biggest buzz at
NAMM (the
> > music equipment industry convention here in the US) this year was his
company's
> > release of the MIDI Theremin.. What did my dad do for a living for
those
> > sonnection? Nothing. Moog just happened to choose the plot of land next
to ours
> > to build his dream house.. I grew up with his kids, played in his
warehouse,
> > etc... His son Matt starting teaching me to program in BASIC in 1984
when he was
> > 11 and I was 9. :) Anyway, that's the story..go buy a Big Briar midi
Theremin..
> >
> > -Morey





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Date: Sat, 25 Jul 1998 14:54:16 +0100
From: Tim <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) Richard H Kirk/ Micky Mann / Cylob and one half of Orbital

>Thursday night i went to the Isslington small farty Richard H Kirk
>(Cabaret Voiltaire) gig at the Garage with Paul H, his GF and Jones.
>Small hot room full of journos and Record Company representives...
>Support Act was just a wall of noise - very annoying - but yaknow he
>just wanted to hear people shout "F?$? Off" to him. Richard H Kirk
>himself - played a mixture of styles - generally upbeat - nice mixture
>of breakbeats as well. The whole night was over quite quick - only to
>see Cylob (Afx type artist) grab the mike of the mixing desk and shout
>various abuse to the crowd. Before anyone could react Paul had disarmed
>him of the mike and lowered the volume. Hey...who says he can only
>compose music. Paul the bouncer!

Richard H Kirk is a God!. He has many guises, but I can recommend him in
his Nitrogen form on "Intoxica". Damn. I could have gone to this gig as
well. Arse!.

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Date: Sat, 25 Jul 1998 17:15:29 EDT
From: <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) MTVs Fanatic

In a message dated 98-07-23 02:33:51 EDT, you write:

<< Have any of you chankers out there ever seen this show?  >>

only about five minutes of it, I cant stand the screaming and the acting and
the retarded celebs. christ its just another annoying MTV show.

sam.


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Date: Sun, 26 Jul 1998 12:13:39 +0100
From: "Price, Steve A" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) Loopz/Orbital Remix Competition 1998

1997 - we had a remix competition which produced 14 original remixes of
Orbital tracks. The winner(s) received (after Paul finally got round to
it :)   ) a signed copy of the Trupak Promo (worth over 70 quid).

I said i would do another one.

Its started today!

Remix any Orbital track - Closing date Oct 31st 1998.

For the full info and rules

www.hyperreal.org/loopz

MISC section, NEWS section or UPDATES section to find the link to the
1998 Loopz/Orbital Remix Competition.

Steve LOOPZ Price
Orbital Zine
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Date: Fri, 26 Jul 1996 21:46:40 +0100
From: Jon Green <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) Ae

At 07:59 25/7/98 -0400, Fr=E9d=E9ric Fournierm5pZXI=3D wrote:
>
>What is LP5's CD packaging like? The vinyl is 2 lp's in a slightly rough,
>beige/grey plain cardboard pocket and the inner sleeves for the 2 lp's are
>U-shaped and white.

All dark grey (slightly rough) plastic, like the inner trays all used to
be. 'autechre' is engraved on the front, and I can just make out the
slightest hint of the 'compact disc digital audio' logo to the right of it.
A white sticker on the front (I wonder how long that'll last), and 'ae'
engraved on the back. Nothing on the spines. Rather like the 'Skampler' CD
case, but grey and less smooth. And I haven't peeled the sticker off,
thinking it's just there to protect the raised braille stuff on the front.=
=20


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Jon

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Date: Sun, 26 Jul 1998 14:22:54 -0700
From: *Princess Serena* <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) Dancing with Wolves?

Hey all!

I was listening to the radio and I heard this awesome song. I recognized
a tune from Dancing with Wolves. Anybody else heard this or know who the
heck it is? I figured maybe Moby... not sure please help. Thanks much!

Well, my bit on the show fanatic...
One of the people on that show is from this itty bitty city where I live
and I thought it was pretty cool to see my turf on TV. I do not actually
care for the show, I think it sucks. Speaking of MTV, does anybody have
AMP 2 yet? Any good?

Bye bye!


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Date: Sun, 26 Jul 1998 17:13:49 EDT
From: <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) Re: orbital-digest V2 #101

In a message dated 98-07-22 11:31:09 EDT, you write:

<< I
 have to say, however, that if you dig Permutation (a recent *98* release),
 you should most definitely check out his last album also on Ninja Tune
 called Bricolage ('96). >>
I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that the Piranha Breaks EP was
better than Bricolage...it had more of an edge to it.  I have yet to hear
Permutation though, so...   Anyway, my point is you should also check out PB.

- --matt


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Date: Sat, 25 Jul 1998 20:15:59 -0400 (EDT)
From: Frederic Fournier <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) Gescom Minidisc

"Not for the faint of heart"?!

This is even WORSE!

This is NOISE! - even if you might call it pretty noise (sortof).

...The name "Gescom" actually appears on Ae's first album, Incunabula,
good thing they separated the two names since then... And if you've heard
"the sounds of machines our parents used", I certainly do not consider
this to be even 10% as crazy as the minidisc is.

I bought a minidisc player for my love of Autechre, talk about *real crazy*
now. But hey. I can record Ae's live act of next week with it too, so
hey. And I will still have earned enough this summer to pay the year of
university, so maybe I wont return this kickass walkman to the sony store
in 8 days after all :)

I wish Orbital and Underworld hurried with their new albums... Autechre
is just for waiting!

Derf

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Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1998 13:47:52 -0500 (EST)
From: Nub <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) jungle comps/etc

okay, i know this was just discussed, but i forgot to keep the e-mails.
somebody said that "this is jungle sky" vol 1 is the best jungle
compilation out there. i just saw it in a tower records yesterday. how
hard to find is it? should i have gotten it? also, how is vol. 2 in
comparison? and i asked around about the 187 compilation - it evidently
won't be out in the US for a month or something.

bought the dj icey album "generate" after hearing a really good track
which turned out to be from a different album. (doh!) so far i'm not
really all that impressed. kinda cheesy florida-sounding breakbeats with
unoriginal samples. still, some of it is pretty good. "not a test,"
"vector" and "this is how my drummer drums" are all okay. overall, it
sounds a lot like the first "trip hop acid phunk" comp, which i like, but
which gets old after awhile. not to mention that it was released like 4
years ago.

one more thing: i listened to a squarepusher CD which i thought was okay
but not great. it had a guy pushing a shopping cart on the front. someone
in the store said it was their worst release. which one should i buy?

been listening to mu-ziq's "brace yourself" ep a lot. i think mike p. is
finally getting his "drill and bass" tendencies under control. or at least
he's getting better at it. and those melodies are like candy.

sorry to ramble,
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Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1998 14:29:21 -0400
From: Dave O'Connor <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) jungle comps/etc

>okay, i know this was just discussed, but i forgot to keep the e-mails.
>somebody said that "this is jungle sky" vol 1 is the best jungle
>compilation out there. i just saw it in a tower records yesterday. how
>hard to find is it? should i have gotten it? also, how is vol. 2 in

It's not too hard to find.

>comparison? and i asked around about the 187 compilation - it evidently
>won't be out in the US for a month or something.

Vol 2 isn't as good as Vol 1 but it's still kicks ass. If you look for
label "Jungle Sky" on cdnow.com you can listen to some samples from JS 1.
1.8.7 has a new album coming out, I think, but "When worlds collide" IS
available in the US (I have it).  You can get it from cdnow or
www.forcedexposure.com


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Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1998 15:09:09 -0400
From: Morey Gamble <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) Ae

[e-mail] wrote:

> you need to see everytime.  Instead I bought the Basscadet EP which I've
> wanted for a while, and Air's Moon Safari.  Not bad although Kelly, watch
> the stars is the highlight, and really the only trak that stands out besides
> Sexy Boy.  What do you all think.

    The Bass Cadet ep is definitely cool, and I think Moon Safari is one of the
best albums of the year so far. It took a few listens to really get into, but
when you start realizing the care and thought put into every sound on the album,
you start to realize how impressive it is.. I think the bubble sound at about a
minute and a half into the first song is a good example. THey're supposed to be
touring the US this fall.. I'll be there...

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Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1998 15:17:39 -0400
From: Morey Gamble <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) jungle comps/etc

[e-mail] wrote:

> okay, i know this was just discussed, but i forgot to keep the e-mails.
> somebody said that "this is jungle sky" vol 1 is the best jungle
> compilation out there. i just saw it in a tower records yesterday. how
> hard to find is it? should i have gotten it? also, how is vol. 2 in
> comparison? and i asked around about the 187 compilation - it evidently
> won't be out in the US for a month or something.

    Yeah, the 187 is called 'Quality Rolls' and won't be out till next month
sometime. And This is Jungle Sky might be a good compilation, but I personally
would not rate it quite that high. I also left out one of my very favorites
(musta been smokin' rock that day...). Renegade Continuum. It's 2 mixed CD's
(or 4 unmixed records) and worth whatever you hafta pay for it. :) Both discs
are mixed by DJ Dara, and other than the first 2 logical progression CD's, it's
probably the best mixed jungle cd around. He uses all the tricks, slowdowns,
wicked beat cuts, and the songs are top notch. One disc is dark and hard, one
is a little (only a little) less dark and very jazzy.

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Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1998 17:01:20 -0600
From: "[halcyon]" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) 303

what exactly is a 303? all those techno buffs should know. ive heard it,
and references to it, but have no idea what it is. thank you kindly.


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Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1998 20:08:25 -0400
From: Danny Colquhoun <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) WTF??!!!

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Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1998 22:03:25 -0400
From: Morey Gamble <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) 303

At 07:46 PM 7/27/98 -0500, [e-mail] wrote:
>
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>what exactly is a 303? all those techno buffs should know. ive heard it,
>and references to it, but have no idea what it is. thank you kindly.

    a 303 is a Roland TB-303. It's a little gray box smaller than a casio
keyboard with a bunch of knobs on it and a very small keyboard. It makes
wild, screaming, distorted, squelchy, tweaked out basslines, and that's
about it. The clean sounds can more or less be found on any roland
quasi-analog model. For this, it sells for a ridiculously high price.

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Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1998 23:00:57 -0400
From: Dave O'Connor <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) 303

>    a 303 is a Roland TB-303. It's a little gray box smaller than a casio
>keyboard with a bunch of knobs on it and a very small keyboard. It makes
>wild, screaming, distorted, squelchy, tweaked out basslines, and that's
>about it. The clean sounds can more or less be found on any roland
>quasi-analog model. For this, it sells for a ridiculously high price.

What??  You don't listen to much Goa trance do you?

Yes, the TB-303 is a small keyboard with a bunch of knobs that was
ORIGINALLY deigned to create basslines for regular rock bands.  It proved
to be pretty bad at doing this.  However, some people discovered that if
you pushed the 303 to it's limits it made wierd screeching noises.
Unfortunately before they became popular in the techno scene Roland
discontinued them.

I guess there have been many attempts to duplicate it's sound over the
years, with no success.  Roland refuses to make them again though.  They
say that their MC-303 "groovebox" is an acceptable substitute, but it isn't
even close. (I've heard it)  All the Roland substitutes just use samples of
the 303 to recreate the sound, and they don't have the versatility and
range of the original.

Now they sell for big money (around $1200 US I think?) because they are so
rare and SO in demand.  You can't really make great goa trance without one.
 The latest attempt at emulation is called Rebirth (a software program)
that does a very good job of emulating the original 303.  It's VERY close,
probably a good enough substitute for those willing to use it.  It's
certainly a lot better than Roland's crappy MC-303 emulation.

The original poster (mailer?) can search for "TB-303" on the web and
they'll find tons of stuff (including samples I'm sure.  Once you know what
it sounds like you can _always_ recognize it when you hear it.

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Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1998 10:47:50 +0100
From: Ez <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) 303/rebirth

Dave O'Connor wrote:
>  The latest attempt at emulation is called Rebirth (a software program)
> that does a very good job of emulating the original 303.  It's VERY close,
> probably a good enough substitute for those willing to use it.  It's
> certainly a lot better than Roland's crappy MC-303 emulation.

Rebirth sounds great, as we've said a thousand times before.  Has anyone
tried out version 2 yet?  It's due out about now, but a friend of mine
said he had a cracked mac version already.  The main difference is that
you get a 909 as well as an 808 (I think).  The sound is very close to
the original but will never be reproduced completely as there were some
random elements in the circuitry that made the original do some mad
shit  (apparently).

ez


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