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Date: Sun, 12 Jul 1998 00:35:23 EDT
From: [e-mail] (Brandon Invergo)
Subject: (orbital) prodigy experience

hey, while everyone was talking about old prodigy stuff, i was reminded
of a question i've been meaning to ask.  in the booklet for The Prodigy's
"Experience" it says, "SPECIAL THANKS TO SIMONE FOR HER VOCALS ON RIP UP
THE SOUND SYSTEM, MUSIC REACH 1/2/3/4 AND RUFF IN THE JUNGLE BIZNESS"  i
was just wondering what the samhill "Rip Up the Sound System" is.  is it
a song on a different version of the album or something? or am i just
stupid and have a "strangely stupid edition?"

btw, i picked up ken ishii's "jelly tones." it's pretty good.  i know no
other way to describe it than this- some of it sounds like it would fit
on the Digital Empire compilation, and some of it sounds like it would
fit on the Northern Exposure II disks.  i don't know if that helped
describe it. does anyone elso know of music similar to this that is good?

    brandon (why does there have to be two brandons now?  I WAS THE
ORIGINAL. wow, sorry)

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Date: Sun, 12 Jul 1998 00:53:55 EDT
From: "Blair Ferrara" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) prodigy experience

My booklet says the same thing but I never really thought about it until
now. I don't think there are different versions, it's probably just a
mistake. It is an actual song though, it's just not on the album.



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Date: Sun, 12 Jul 1998 13:20:21 -0400 (EDT)
From: Brandon Thompson <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) prodigy

>
> My booklet says the same thing but I never really thought about it until
> now. I don't think there are different versions, it's probably just a
> mistake. It is an actual song though, it's just not on the album.

it's not a mistake they just wanted to publicly thank simone for all she's
done and why not thank her on their second best album?


on another note there are THREE brandon's on this list.

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Date: Sun, 12 Jul 1998 20:52:15 EDT
From: <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) prodigy

The first best prodigy album had better be Jilted Generation, because if you
say Fat of the Land, I would be extremely let down. If techno is going to get
popular, I would really hope it isn't that album causing it. Even Chemical
Brothers who's first album was good got a grammy winning crappy second album.
If people can't accept Orbital, Orb, Moby, AFX or even the lesser known and
sometimes better artists, then that sucks. Also, could someone please help me:

Does anyone know any good Music Stores in DC? Thanks. Later.
AJ


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Date: Sun, 12 Jul 1998 23:38:44 -0400
From: Jeff Bandy <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) FAQ

How exactly do you get the FAQ sent to you? All my mail archives were
erased when my computer crashed. Thanks.

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Date: Sun, 12 Jul 1998 20:55:15 -0700
From: "Aimee Couture" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) Autechre

**
They play Toronto on August 1st at a place called Ritual.  I plan on going, finally getting to see an act I want to...  I'm about three hours from TO and have no idea where this place is.  Does anyone know about it or where I could find out?
**

This party is Ritual 4: submission.. (www.techno.ca/ritual) richie hawtin's also there with a bunch of others.. no fuckin glowsticks allowed.. email me your address privately and i'll send you the little flier if you need one.. all I really know is that it's somewhere downtown n I can't go cuz I'm not 19.. fuck..

hullabaloo 7.. 10 october.. I'm there :) :)

Anybody heard anything about the world electronic music festival this weekend?? www.nkaos.com/destiny .... I wanna gooooooo...

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Date: Sun, 12 Jul 1998 20:59:49 -0700
From: "Aimee Couture" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (orbital) WOOHOO!!! TRALALERE TRALALERE!!

Oh yeah... forgot to mention the info line for that party with autechre in toronto.. 416.760.3281 (sorry..out of it.. toooooo much time in a car today.. (I'm back))

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Date: Mon, 13 Jul 1998 00:24:27 EDT
From: [e-mail] (Brandon Invergo)
Subject: Re: (orbital) OffTopic: good shops in Chicago?

sorry this ones kinda late, i was in iowa for a week.  anyway, anyone
that responded to this, i was wondering if you could take the time to
send the names of some shops to me too.  sorry again for the lateness.


 On Wed,  8 Jul 1998 14:51:03 -0400 (EDT) Aronne J Merrelli
[e-mail]> writes:

>> >Hi,
>> >
>> >If any on this list is from, or knows, the Chicago area -
>> >I'd like to know where to find a good music shop. One that
>> >specializes in electronic music, imports, vinyl, etc.
>> >You know, the good stuff :)  Send me a private E-mail to
>> >avoid more list spam ...
>> >
>> >Thanks in advance -
>> >
>> >    -Aronne

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Date: Mon, 13 Jul 1998 01:22:15
From: "(an ending) Ascent" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) Video Imaging???

>     Hey, anyone know those pictures that are look three dimensional???
Almost like >freeze frame, but at the same time, the camera moves around
the picture so it gets a three >dimensional look to it.. Almost as though
the person is incased in lucite or something... If >anyone knows what that
is, what it is called, or how to do it, I would really like to know....Thanx
>
>Brandon
>
someone else wrote:
>
>I know what you're talking about, it was in Meat Beat Manifesto's
>"Helter Skelter" video.  It's just 60 35mm cameras set in a circle
>around (and pointing at) a central scene.  All the cameras take a
>picture at EXACTLY the same time, and the separate images are converted
>to frames in a movie/video..  And in Post-Production, they have to
>remove the image if the other cameras -- it's and ugly set-up that
>shouldn't be visible in a video. :)
>
>It was also used in some Sting video..
>

Sorry about not remembering names, but from what I understand, you only
need two video cameras (or photo cameras).  You position them at the
beginning and ending points of the rotation.  Then, you take it through a
computer (some sort of video editing/3D rendering program) and it fills in
the rest.  I'm not sure about the MBM video, but I know that's what they
used in the Gap commercials and the Miller Light commercials.  Hope this
helps.


    Len




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Date: Mon, 13 Jul 1998 13:00:42 -0400
From: Morey Gamble <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) Moby

[e-mail] wrote:

> Hah, I went to a Moby concert last night and was utterly let down.. I thought that guy had put his rock past behind him, but no-o-o-o, hardly any techno beats at all, most were covers of rock classics, so I felt a bit disappointed.
>
> But still, they played nice percussions and the beats were cool in the few techno songs they actually played. So, he knows how to put on a show, but it wasn't a techno concert. ;)

    Wow.. When I saw him last fall, he played all the classics. Before every song, he said "This is a disco song, too..."

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Date: Mon, 13 Jul 1998 13:11:37 -0400
From: Morey Gamble <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) A coupla things

    Wheee.....I finly found my copy of Ultramarine - Every Man and Woman
is a Star this weekend. It's been missing for over a year, and I had
utterly given up on ever seeing it again..
    Also, speaking of upcoming shows, on July 25 in Winston-Salem (i
guess this is only for you folks in the southeast US) is Beyond 8, with
Rabbit in the Moon, Mark Farina, and (oooohh.... ahhhhh....) A Guy
Called Gerald. Never thought I'd be getting a chance to see him anywhere
around here. If anyone (yeah, right) wants any more info, lemme know.

- -Morey





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Date: Mon, 13 Jul 1998 22:48:56 +0200
From: "Daniel Kasaj" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) mtv does it again

how come they're all over Fatboy slim now ? they're pushing him
so hard it's disgusting. Go to MTV Website, click on music,
then AMP and then the start Amp 2.0 button.
It's pretty much the coolest thing I've ever seen on the Web
(a *great* animation programmed in Java, running while
a part of Fatboy's live act is playing in the background),
but why oh why do they have to ruin everything that's good ?
(Fatboy Slim's gonna get a lot of money though...I'll give em that)

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Date: Mon, 13 Jul 1998 13:55:12 -0700
From: "[e-mail]" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) mtv does it again

What difference does it make that Norman Cook is getting a lot of money
if hes getting it for putting out crap?  That song is absolutly horrible
and an obvious attempt at creating a pop hit.  I really like the first
few songs off the album (especially Santa Cruz, which Ive loved since
firt hearing it in 96), but Cook is lame now.  When I saw him live with
Crystal Meth (who also sucked live), his show was so bad that I was
happy that his record company paid my in cause I wouldve asked for my
money back.

.MatthewFord.


Daniel Kasaj wrote:
>
> how come they're all over Fatboy slim now ? they're pushing him
> so hard it's disgusting. Go to MTV Website, click on music,
> then AMP and then the start Amp 2.0 button.
> It's pretty much the coolest thing I've ever seen on the Web
> (a *great* animation programmed in Java, running while
> a part of Fatboy's live act is playing in the background),
> but why oh why do they have to ruin everything that's good ?
> (Fatboy Slim's gonna get a lot of money though...I'll give em that)
>
> Daniel


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Date: Mon, 13 Jul 1998 17:05:11 -0400
From: Dave O'Connor <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) mtv does it again

>What difference does it make that Norman Cook is getting a lot of money
>if hes getting it for putting out crap?  That song is absolutly horrible
>and an obvious attempt at creating a pop hit.  I really like the first

I agree, I think that song is utter garbage.  Totally contrived for the MTV
electronica movement.  It's "bad press" for the rest of the electronic
music scene.

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Date: Mon, 13 Jul 1998 19:59:49 -0700
From: "Shaun D. Rader" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (orbital) mtv does it again

> What difference does it make that Norman Cook is getting a lot of money
> if hes getting it for putting out crap?  That song is absolutly horrible

I totally disagree.  I loved Fatboy Slim's _Better Living Through Chemistry_
and when I heard Rockafeller Skank I loved that as well.  I am VERY
surprised to see this song is making it big.  I played it around my friends
and they didn't like it at all (but they don't like electronic music).

I think it would be too repetitive for the mainstream.  Plus the stretched
out sample in the middle of the song seems very non-mainstream to me.  I
just think MTV and local radio stations have successfully shoved it down
everyone's throat but it doesn't mean it's crap.  Fatboy Slim uses samples
in a lot of his work and this is no exception...

> firt hearing it in 96), but Cook is lame now.  When I saw him live with
> Crystal Meth (who also sucked live), his show was so bad that I was

Crystal Method was damn good when I saw them in March and again last month.
I respect the fact that they don't rely on DAT tapes like many performers
do.  Fatboy Slim only spun records when I saw him with the Crystal Method...
and I'm not one to judge dj'ing skills.

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Date: Tue, 14 Jul 1998 04:11:22 -0700
From: "morpheus" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) mtv does it again

>
>> What difference does it make that Norman Cook is getting a lot of money
>> if hes getting it for putting out crap?  That song is absolutly horrible
>
>I totally disagree.  I loved Fatboy Slim's _Better Living Through
Chemistry_
>and when I heard Rockafeller Skank I loved that as well.  I am VERY
>surprised to see this song is making it big.  I played it around my friends
>and they didn't like it at all (but they don't like electronic music).


Too much negativity towards groups.  Quit slashing people because they are
maing money.  If you honestly dislike their music, then that's cool.  But
you sound as if you liked them when they were small, and you dislike them
now, only because everybody else is listening to it.  I personally like
Rockafeller Skank and that's the first Fatboy Slim Song that I've ever
heard.  And as for the Crystal Method live, From what I've seen on TV
(missed their concert here because it was at a club), the only fault with
their show, is that they play the songs exactly how they are on the cd.
They should at least change it a bit so the fans know they are getting a
show and not just a spinning disk.
my ramlbe for tonite.
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Date: Sun, 12 Jul 1998 08:06:17 +0100
From: "Price, Steve A" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) Orbital questionaire time again | Last comment about the Jon story

All,

Im seeing Paul and most likely Phil in a couple of weeks as im in London
on a course. Naturally ill be visiting ... but i may do some kind of
video interview/questionaire. If you would like to submit some questions
then please send them to [e-mail]. Try and make the questions
interesting and original - avoid Yes No answers.

Questions must be in before end of this week to qualify...Im afraid i
wont be able to ask all of them though...

Last thing about Jon: He has asked me to prove this bollox that he is
coming out with....i could easily type emails out here and even change
them to say he wanted to trade a banana for a lemon - its pointless -
you cant prove anything apart from that you are good a forging emails
(well done Jon!).
Ill say it again - most people will know about my trading and work just
by the people who got the Oscillate Cd / zines / live tapes etc. The
proof is in my work.

Dose - It wasnt a private CD trade (i did try to say this spanish btw -
but failed) ;)

Thats it.... 2 comments each - dead and buried


Thanx

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Date: Tue, 14 Jul 1998 11:37:40 -0400 (EDT)
From: Aronne J Merrelli <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) Orbital questionaire time again

Excerpts from mail: 12-Jul-98 (orbital) Orbital questiona.. by
@capgemini.co.uk
> then please send them to [e-mail]. Try and make the questions


That should be 'rocketmail.com', correct? (I think you left out the 't')


    -Aronne


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Date: Tue, 14 Jul 1998 10:05:01 -0700
From: "Aimee Couture" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) massive attack/the verve in toronto? not anymore..

Hey.. just checking concert listings for toronto.. I *was* gonna buy tickets to see massive attack with the verve (on 31 july in hamilton) back when they went on sale.. I'm glad I didn't because my money would have been wasted... massive attack isn't opening anymore.. anybody know why? I wonder who the replacement opening act will be.. more concert bad luck for me.. woke up today wondering when the tricky concert was cuz I knew it was around this time... it was fucking last night.. eugh..

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Date: Tue, 14 Jul 1998 13:16:27 -0400 (EDT)
From: Ken Pittman <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) Daft Punk?

Anyone know anything about the Daft Punk tour that is supposed to be coming
up soon? I can't even find out a date. I am in the U.S., and I understand
they are supposed to be in Canada in September, bu I have no idea where to
get tickets or anything. Can anyone help? Thanks!

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Date: Tue, 14 Jul 1998 14:05:47 -0400
From: Morey Gamble <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) ultramarine

[e-mail] wrote:

> hey Morey, I'd like some info on Ultramarine. I never heard them but
> I saw them in Sally's Photographic Memory booklet. I guess they
> hafta be good if they hung out with Orbital :-)

    Well, once again, they're one of those bands that sort of have their own
sound. It's some of the most organic sounding electronic music you'll hear,
very upbeat (as in happy), sort of mellow breakbeats. I read somewhere
(mixmag maybe?) that they are the ones that find a melody the a flowing
stream or the chirping of birds. I'm not sure that's exactly quite accurate,
but they are good at conjuring up the _feeling_ of those kind of sounds.
Picture the song from Sally's with a less driving beat. I dunno, check 'em
out.. I'm sure most (or all) people here who are familiar with them would
agree..

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Date: Tue, 14 Jul 1998 19:15:41 -0700
From: "[e-mail]" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) mtv does it again

I honestly dislike the new Fatboy Slim song.  Not just cause its
intentionally geared for a pop audience, but because it is very
unimaginatative and repetitive.
The reason CM sucked live was because it was just a louder version of
the cd, as you stated.

.MatthewFord.

morpheus wrote:
>
> >
> >> What difference does it make that Norman Cook is getting a lot of money
> >> if hes getting it for putting out crap?  That song is absolutly horrible
> >
> >I totally disagree.  I loved Fatboy Slim's _Better Living Through
> Chemistry_
> >and when I heard Rockafeller Skank I loved that as well.  I am VERY
> >surprised to see this song is making it big.  I played it around my friends
> >and they didn't like it at all (but they don't like electronic music).
>
> Too much negativity towards groups.  Quit slashing people because they are
> maing money.  If you honestly dislike their music, then that's cool.  But
> you sound as if you liked them when they were small, and you dislike them
> now, only because everybody else is listening to it.  I personally like
> Rockafeller Skank and that's the first Fatboy Slim Song that I've ever
> heard.  And as for the Crystal Method live, From what I've seen on TV
> (missed their concert here because it was at a club), the only fault with
> their show, is that they play the songs exactly how they are on the cd.
> They should at least change it a bit so the fans know they are getting a
> show and not just a spinning disk.
> my ramlbe for tonite.
> peace
> morpheus


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Date: Tue, 14 Jul 1998 23:08:42 -0700
From: "[e-mail]" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) Pi Soundtrack

I remember some folks talking about the soundtrack to this exquisite
looking film, so I decided to use my resources at work to get a
tracklisting.  This may be on the net already, but who cares?

Music From The Motion Picture of Pi(little pi symbol)

1. Clint Mansell-pi r2 [1.28]
2. Orbital- P.E.T.R.O.L. [6.21]
3. Autechre-Kalpol Intro [3.30]
4. Aphex Twin-Bucephalus Bouncing Ball [6.02]
5. Roni Size- Watching Windows (Ed Rush & Optical Mix) [6.35]
6. Massive Attack-Angel [6.09]
7. Clint Mansell-We Got Da Gun [4.52]
8. David Holmes No Man's Land [6.18]
9. Gus Gus-Anthem [4.51]
10. Banco De Gaia- Drippy [8.37]
11. Psilonaut-Slow Song [5.10]
12. Spacetime Continuum-A Low Frequency Inversion Field [6.57]
13. Clint Mansell 2pi r [3.05]


**GIVE CREDIT WHERE CREDIT IS DUE**

.MatthewFord.


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