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From: "Price, Steve A" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) Geri on next Orbital Ep
Date: 01 Jun 1998 16:38:22 +0100


>any info/opinions? anything to divulge Steve? (I bet this is why news of
>the next album is so slow in coming...'we were waiting so we could tell
>people that Ginger Spice-Hartnoll is the newest member of Orbital... oh,
>and she's marrying Paul.')

:)
Most will know that The Spice Girls recorded the majority of the vocals
at The Strongroom where P&P used to record. They met up on many
occasions (this was before they hit the big time - Spice Girls that is!
:)    ). So who can tell...there will (most likely) be vocals on the
next album and there (most likely) will be a women doing some vocals
that hasnt worked with P&P before...but ive said too much already.
I actually logged off yesterday saying to Aimee that she hadnt
officially left the Spice Girls...only to turn the Tv on to see that she
had...damnit :)

As for Paul marrying here....that would be funny.

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From: KELL SIMON <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) nonorbital swayzak
Date: 01 Jun 1998 11:57:40 -0400


anyone know anything about the band swayzak?
got their disc this weekend called "snowboarding in argentina" and it's
pretty good.  they list kraftwerk and orbital among their influences.  i think
they're from the uk but the disc i got is on the medicine label (nyc).
any info on band or medicine label would be appreciated.
k


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From: "Aimee Couture" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) Geri on next Orbital Ep
Date: 01 Jun 1998 10:48:36 -0700


**
So who can tell...there will (most likely) be vocals on the next album and there (most likely) will be a women doing some vocals that hasnt worked with P&P before...but ive said too much already.
I actually logged off yesterday saying to Aimee that she hadnt officially left the Spice Girls...only to turn the Tv on to see that she had...damnit :)
**

Hmm.. anybody else notice that he said "Geri on next Orbital Ep"... is this a hint that we'll have an ep before the album?? ;) Just joking..
Eww.. keep Geri away from Orbital.. keep all the Spice gurlies away from Orbital.. no need to ruin a good thing.. you know?
Being serious now.. vocals on the new album.. cool. Something other than synth lines to sing. If P&P want a vocalist Steve, you know where to send them ;) Which brings me to a question for everybody.. a chat friend of mine wants me to do vocals for his new track, but he wants the vocals before he writes the track.. all I know is that it'll be called Diabolique.... any ideas?

Transfer your sig to your laptop Steve.. and I win ;)

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From: "Morey Gamble" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) Medicine Drum follow-up
Date: 01 Jun 1998 14:33:43 +0000


    Well, my Medicine Drum CD came in today, and it's really damn good.
It's sounds very much like a cross between Banco de Gaia and Juno
Reactor. It has the tribal feel of Banco and the trance feel of Juno
Reactor. Definitely worth checking out.

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From: "Skip Acuff" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) Orbital:   Eye-Q -- Harthouse topic
Date: 01 Jun 1998 12:06:47 -0600


Geoff wrote:
<One artist I've been getting into lately is Oliver Lieb - mostly
Superstition/Eye-Q/Harthouse type stuff. Very trancey-techno. He's recorded
a few albums as Spicelab, and also LSG, as well a million other names
(Paragliders, etc).>  [snip]

I think Eye-Q went bankrupt.  The L.A. phone number is disconnected.   Too bad, because they published some quality stuff.   I have not yet heard Herr Lieb, but last week I finally got ahold of Hypermetrical by Cygnus-X, which is a brilliant  trance project by A. C. Boutsen and Ralf Hildenbeutel.  Anyone have info about the fate of Eye-Q and its artists?


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From: Jon Green <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) Orbital:   Eye-Q -- Harthouse topic
Date: 01 Jun 1998 23:06:30 +0100


At 12:06 1/6/98 -0600, Skip Acuff wrote:
>
>I think Eye-Q went bankrupt.  The L.A. phone number is disconnected.   Too
bad, >because they published some quality stuff.   I have not yet heard
Herr Lieb, but last >week I finally got ahold of Hypermetrical by Cygnus-X,
which is a brilliant  trance >project by A. C. Boutsen and Ralf
Hildenbeutel.  Anyone have info about the fate of >Eye-Q and its artists?

Well they released a Mogwai album here in the UK last Monday, so I guess
the UK arm at least isn't bankrupt. But their website seems to have been
taken over by a german tickets company or something. I assumed it was some
amusing joke front for Eye-Q's own website, so spent a good ten minutes
clicking links before I decided it really was a german ticket company....
Never mind.

cheers,
Jon

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From: [e-mail] (trent 242 x)
Subject: (orbital) NIN bootlegs
Date: 01 Jun 1998 07:01:15 -0400


I am looking for NIN bootlegs. in disc form, if possible. I don't want
any halos! just bootlegs.

Waylon

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From: "Richard Mellor" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) Orbital themes
Date: 02 Jun 1998 00:22:43 +0100


Well, Geri has left the Spice Girls eh? well, I must say I am really gutted
;) Perhaps her and Paul Gascoigne will get together and try and revive their
flagging careers......

Anyway, onto Orbital related matters:

When I was browsing the net the other day I came across an Orbital theme for
Windows 95 that some geezer has done. It's at:

www.freethemes.com

It's not brilliant but possibly worth a look. Maybe someone could do a
better one?!

There's loads of themes for other bands aswell as film ones and stuff.

Just thought I'd let y'all know

Rich



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From: "Mehul Parekh" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) I found something
Date: 02 Jun 1998 10:51:37 PDT


Hey you guys:
I think I found something.  There is a promo set that you can buy for
The Box and the beloved Trupak that everyone wants.  The prices are
really high, but you can get them.  Find them at:
http://www.demon.co.uk/mveshops/product/sound/dels/dels_cds_n-s.htm
I would buy it but it sooooo out of my range.
good luck.

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From: KELL SIMON <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) nononorbitalalal quaaudrophonic
Date: 02 Jun 1998 15:05:21 -0400


does anyone have the ffrr disc (1997 or 1998) which is a compliation
called something like quadrophonic and maybe has ffrr in the title.  i am
looking for this but only have a vague recollection (as you can see) of
the title.  i think it is dnb but am not positive.
any help appreciated
kell
ps any word on us release of the full mogwai remix cd.  is it good?  i got
ten rapid and liked it a lot.


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From: "Benjamin Szabo" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) totally nonorbital
Date: 02 Jun 1998 13:39:00 PDT


Is anyone interested in a turntable? It's a Technics MKII, mint
condition, never played out, hardly used at all in fact. It's definitely
worth $300, but I'll entertain the best offer. If you're anywhere in the
NYC or Philly area I can meet you in person, anyone farther away, we'll
work something out.

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From: Jon Green <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) mogwai
Date: 02 Jun 1998 21:48:59 +0100


At 15:05 2/6/98 -0400, KELL SIMON wrote:
>
>ps any word on us release of the full mogwai remix cd.  is it good?  i got
>ten rapid and liked it a lot.

It's an excellent album, one of the best of the year, but I gather it's not
a lot like their own stuff. The Surgeon mix of 'Mogwai Fear Satan' is
absolutely incredible.

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From: "Patrick McGinn" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) totally nonorbital
Date: 02 Jun 1998 17:20:48 -0400


>Is anyone interested in a turntable? It's a Technics MKII, mint
>condition, never played out, hardly used at all in fact. It's definitely
>worth $300, but I'll entertain the best offer. If you're anywhere in the
>NYC or Philly area I can meet you in person, anyone farther away, we'll
>work something out.

What kind of carts on that?  Any?




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From: "Whiggy" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Fwd: Re: (orbital) comments on Gaia and Delerium
Date: 02 Jun 1998 15:33:09 +0000


> What really
> got me was more of /who/ did this cd than the music itself.  Because
> unlike the first post said, this is 'experimental' music for the
> group.  Delerium is Front Line Assembly and after finding out that
> fact, I had an even greater appreciation for FLA for being great in
> two types of electronica.

Try a lot more than two and I don't know if you could call Delerium
an "experiment" since it's been around since '89. I'd say their last
two albums are more of an experiment, since they barely sound like
any of their other ones. I don't know if this has already been said
(my mail was down for a couple days), but Bill Leeb and Rhys Fulber
have been responsible for at least 8 different projects and are
pretty much *the* driving force behind electronic music here in
Vancouver, and possible even Canada. They've been responsible for
Delerium, Intermix, Synaesthesia, Front Line Assembly, Noise Unit,
Cyberaktif, Will, and Pro-Tech. And there are more in the works. The
theory is that each group has a different sound and style, but I've
noticed the label the album is released on has a lot more of an
impact on the sound than the name does. At any rate for a discography
of all their projects check out:
http://web.redline.ru/~alli/delerium.htm



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From: Frederic Fournier <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Fwd: Re: (orbital) comments on Gaia and Delerium
Date: 03 Jun 1998 05:29:05 -0400 (EDT)


On Tue, 2 Jun 1998, Whiggy wrote:

> pretty much *the* driving force behind electronic music here in
> Vancouver, and possible even Canada. They've been responsible for

Yeah, how come most serious canadian techno seems to come from BC? Skinny
Puppy/Download also is Vancouver-based...


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From: Danny Colquhoun <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Fwd: Re: (orbital) comments on Gaia and Delerium
Date: 03 Jun 1998 08:55:43 -0400




Frederic Fournier wrote:

> On Tue, 2 Jun 1998, Whiggy wrote:
>
> > pretty much *the* driving force behind electronic music here in
> > Vancouver, and possible even Canada. They've been responsible for
>
> Yeah, how come most serious canadian techno seems to come from BC? Skinny
> Puppy/Download also is Vancouver-based...

Well, the only other act that comes to my mind is Plastikman, from Windsor.



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From: "Aimee Couture" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Re: Fwd: Re: (orbital) comments on Gaia and Delerium
Date: 03 Jun 1998 06:21:16 -0700


**
Yeah, how come most serious canadian techno seems to come from BC? Skinny Puppy/Download also is Vancouver-based...
**
Well, the only other act that comes to my mind is Plastikman, from Windsor.
**

Let's face it.. there isn't much canadian techno. However, not much music comes out of Canada anyway... but toronto has a kickin drum'n'bass scene.. do we still hold our title of drum'n'bass capital of north america? but yeah, not much commercial techno.. however, go downtown and walk down queen street.. record store after record store sendin music out into the streets.. and we have a kickin rave scene..

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From: "morpheus" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Re: Fwd: Re: (orbital) comments on Gaia and Delerium
Date: 03 Jun 1998 09:54:30 -0700




>Yeah, how come most serious canadian techno seems to come from BC? Skinny
Puppy/Download also is Vancouver-based...
>**
>Well, the only other act that comes to my mind is Plastikman, from Windsor.
>**
>

Well if anyone wants some really good Canadian ambient, check out The Legion
of Green Men, they are awesome.  I don't know where exactly in Canada they
are from though.
cya
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From: Jon Green <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Fwd: Re: (orbital) comments on Gaia and Delerium
Date: 03 Jun 1998 19:39:45 +0100


At 08:55 3/6/98 -0400, Danny Colquhoun wrote:
>
>Well, the only other act that comes to my mind is Plastikman, from Windsor.
>
And he was born in England. Sort of a reverse Greg Rusedski situation - you
steal our techno gods and we steal your tennis players ;-)

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From: Danny Colquhoun <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Fwd: Re: (orbital) comments on Gaia and Delerium
Date: 03 Jun 1998 23:22:05 -0400




Aimee Couture wrote:

> **
> Yeah, how come most serious canadian techno seems to come from BC? Skinny Puppy/Download also is Vancouver-based...
> **
> Well, the only other act that comes to my mind is Plastikman, from Windsor.
> **
>
> Let's face it.. there isn't much canadian techno. However, not much music comes out of Canada anyway... but toronto has a kickin drum'n'bass scene.. do we still hold our title of drum'n'bass capital of north america? but yeah, not much commercial techno.. however, go downtown and walk down queen street.. record store after record store sendin music out into the streets.. and we have a kickin rave scene..

And it's just the perfect distance from Sarnia to make it too much of a drive to go there without a REALLY good reason.

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From: Hiran Leanage <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) Info Please!!
Date: 04 Jun 1998 10:42:25 +0100


Is there anyone out there in 'tal land with any info re: FNAC,
FCom. or F Communications - the labels headed by Laurent Garnier.
Back Cat.\web presence info would be especially welcome.

I know this isn't Orbital related but if anyone could help out I'd be
eternally grateful.

Gerri must die!!!

H.


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From: KELL SIMON <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) morenonorbitalwink
Date: 04 Jun 1998 11:18:35 -0400


got wink "hearhere" (or is it "herehear"?) the other day and like it a lot.
trent reznor's vocals aside, i think it is a really good disc.  sometimes
squelchy and layered in that way that orbital can be.  any opinions?
k



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From: "Benjamin Szabo" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) Content-Type: text/plain
Date: 04 Jun 1998 11:00:33 PDT


Hey all,

I was looking for some suggestions for top quality music with vocals.
Off the top of my head, some of my favorite cd's in no particular order
are by: Bjork, Massive Attack, Tricky, Portishead, Future Sound of
London, Orbital, LFO, Aphex Twin, Front 242, Pink Floyd, RUSH, TooL,
NIN, Metallica, Pantera and early Smashing Pumpkins (the lyrics in
Mellon Collie are good but I didn't like the way most of the songs were
arranged). I also like System 7, Dubtribe, Wink, Marley, Ministry,
Freddie Fresh, Surgeon, Beltram, Luke Slater, Speedy J, you get the
point.

I don't want music that sounds exactly like something I already have;
admittedly, it's hard to find originality. Some artists that I have
absolutely NO interest in are Natalie Imbruglia, Matchbox 20, Tori Amos,
Oasis, Marcy's Playground, Jewel, Goldie.

If you have any suggestions I'll greatly appreciate them. Thanks.

Szabo


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From: "Jeff Fanno" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) Content-Type: text/plain
Date: 04 Jun 1998 12:07:20 PDT



>I was looking for some suggestions for top quality music with vocals.
>Off the top of my head, some of my favorite cd's in no particular order
>are by: Bjork, Massive Attack, Tricky, Portishead, Future Sound of
>London, Orbital, LFO, Aphex Twin, Front 242, Pink Floyd, RUSH, TooL,
>NIN, Metallica, Pantera and early Smashing Pumpkins (the lyrics in
>Mellon Collie are good but I didn't like the way most of the songs were
>arranged). I also like System 7, Dubtribe, Wink, Marley, Ministry,
>Freddie Fresh, Surgeon, Beltram, Luke Slater, Speedy J, you get the
>point.
>
>I don't want music that sounds exactly like something I already have;
>admittedly, it's hard to find originality. Some artists that I have
>absolutely NO interest in are Natalie Imbruglia, Matchbox 20, Tori
Amos,
>Oasis, Marcy's Playground, Jewel, Goldie.
>
>If you have any suggestions I'll greatly appreciate them. Thanks.
>
>Szabo

Have you checked out: Olive, Orb, Sven Vath,  Juno Reactor, Underworld,
Spiceworld (not related to the Spice Girlzzzzzz),  Spacetime Continuum,
Young American Primitive ?

Good Luck,
 Jeff

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From: "Morey Gamble" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) Lords of the Realms (no orbital)
Date: 04 Jun 1998 15:09:32 +0000


    For anyone in the southeast US looking for a fun evening with (gasp)
real DJ's, there's an 'event' called Lords of the Realms next weekend
(14th i think, i can get the info) in Atlanta. Paul Oakenfold and
Dave Ralph(cream resident) are going to be there. It's supposed to be
something like the best of each genre. Sniper and Mystical Influence
(from toronto i think) (also the newest urban takeover members) for
jungle. Czech (also canadian, i think) for funky breaks, and some LA
trance guy I can't remember. Most of them I'm not particularly
interested in, but it's not often Paul Oakenfold comes 3 hours from
my house..

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From: "Aimee Couture" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) Lords of the Realms (no orbital)
Date: 04 Jun 1998 13:12:38 -0700


**
Sniper and Mystical Influence (from toronto i think) (also the newest urban takeover members) for jungle.
**

Oh god.. you gotta go if you're near there.. I'm trying to remember when I first saw them.. Umm... probably a syrous party..
yep.. found it.. sat feb 17/96.. syrous presents valley of the kings..
kenny ken, slipmatt, mc fearless, kimball collins, john e, mark oliver, minute maid, danny henry, dominik, peter the greek,  tim patrick, jeff haynes, mystical infuence, sniper, ashley, ruffrida, sigma-7, medicine muffin, slip n'slide, momentum, mc urban j, brocksy, mc reeka......

mmmm... go see them..

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From: "Morey Gamble" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) Lords of the Realms (no orbital)
Date: 04 Jun 1998 16:59:14 +0000


>> Sniper and Mystical Influence (from toronto i think) (also the
>> newest urban takeover members) for jungle.
> Oh god.. you gotta go if you're near there.

    Yup. I'm still kinda annoyed that i had to miss aphrodite and mickey
finn in order to catch robbie & scott hardkiss the same night. This
sorta makes up for it.

    Oh yeah, happy birthday...

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From: Eric Gardner <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) Content-Type: text/plain
Date: 04 Jun 1998 18:33:15 -0500


Try Scott Walker, Erykah Badu, Serge Gainsbourg, Roy Orbison, Primal Scream,
Wu Tang Clan, Radiohead, Roni Size, Beethoven, David Bowie, Ella Fitzgerald,
Luciano Pavarotti, James Brown, Marvin Gaye, Jeff Buckley...

But only if you have the guts!

Eric

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>Hey all,
>>I was looking for some suggestions for top quality music with vocals.
>I don't want music that sounds exactly like something I already have;
>admittedly, it's hard to find originality.
>If you have any suggestions I'll greatly appreciate them. Thanks
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Subject: (orbital) (off topic) Eye Q etc
Date: 05 Jun 1998 13:57:56 +0000


Eye Q was Sven Vath recording label, set up back in the early ninties
I think. It has released LOADS of great stuff, mainly early-germanic
type trance stuff....see Sven Vath Accident in Paradise for the
perfect example. Two other releases of particular note are the
compliations of Eye Q stuff called Behind the Eye Vol I and Vol II. I
have been searching for these CD's for 4 years and have finally got
myself a copy. If your into early 1991 trance then try and find these
compilations...I can't recommend them highly enough. Eye Q itself
fell too pieces last year when Sven Vath left the label. The German
and USA based labels both folded, but the UK branch continued.
Thats all I know......

Geri / Orbital.....OI !  NO !!!

Later

Al


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  I just know this time I mean it,
  but this feeling deep inside,
  says it's OK one more time.."
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From: KELL SIMON <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) badly nonorbital but aren't we all these days (wink)
Date: 05 Jun 1998 09:51:14 -0400


on the new josh wink "herehear" disc is a song with vocals by caroline
crawley called "i'm on fire".  caroline crawley used to be with shelleyan
orphan who were despite their terrible name.  does anyone know how
she became involved with wink or if she has released anything herself
since the last shelleyan orphan disc?
any info appreciated
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From: Andrew Jackson <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) Re: orbital-digest V2 #84
Date: 05 Jun 1998 10:04:10 GMT



> >Yeah, how come most serious canadian techno seems to come from BC? Skinny
> Puppy/Download also is Vancouver-based...

> >Well, the only other act that comes to my mind is Plastikman, from Windsor.

> Well if anyone wants some really good Canadian ambient, check out The Legion
> of Green Men, they are awesome.  I don't know where exactly in Canada they
> are from though.

...and if anyone wants some seriously warped electronics from the
early 80s, try Nash The Slash from Toronto. He was famous(?) for
covering metal and surf-pop in a gothic death-horror style, but his
music was all done on grungey synths and beatboxes, plus heavily
fuzzed violin/mandolin. He sounds like no-one else, and he's still
going! A true innovator, with a great sense of humour.

Andy Jackson

"I know the guy who writes all those bumper stickers. He hates New York."
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Subject: Re: NDN: Re: (orbital) Lords of the Realms (no orbital
Date: 05 Jun 1998 13:51:14 +0000


>
> Sorry. Your message could not be delivered to:
>
> MICHAEL KENNEDY (Mailbox or Conference is full.)
>

    Has anyone else gotten this response? It's happening again.... (and
I know I'll get it again for this message...

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Subject: (orbital) (off topic) Eye Q etc
Date: 05 Jun 1998 18:53:04 +0000


Eye Q was Sven Vath recording label, set up back in the early ninties
I think. It has released LOADS of great stuff, mainly early-germanic
type trance stuff....see Sven Vath Accident in Paradise for the
perfect example. Two other releases of particular note are the
compliations of Eye Q stuff called Behind the Eye Vol I and Vol II. I
have been searching for these CD's for 4 years and have finally got
myself a copy. If your into early 1991 trance then try and find these
compilations...I can't recommend them highly enough. Eye Q itself
fell too pieces last year when Sven Vath left the label. The German
and USA based labels both folded, but the UK branch continued.
Thats all I know......

Geri / Orbital.....OI !  NO !!!

Later

Al


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From: [e-mail] (trent 242 x)
Subject: (orbital) Orbital and Aphex Twin
Date: 05 Jun 1998 07:27:31 -0400


I have to say, i was quite suprised when i heard Aphex Twin for the first
time. i really expected it to sound more like Orbital.(not to put him
down, had enough hate mail about White ZOmbie) Does anyine know if
Richard J. put out any works that sound more like Orbital? i have the
R.D.J. Album.

    oh yeah.........
        What would you categorize Orbital as? Is it Techno,
Trance, or what? or is it just plain and pure Orbital? Stange..  What
other folks sound just like Orbital? i recently fell in love with
Orbital, and want to find out more.

A n n i a h l a t e

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From: "Steve Wright" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) Non Orbital (Oh what a crime) 808:88:98
Date: 05 Jun 1998 20:20:16 +0100


This will be released in the US in a couple of weeks....

>1. Pacific 707
>2. Cubik
>3, Cobrabora
>4. In YeaFace
>5. The Only Rhyme that BYTES (with McTunes)
>6. Olympic (Flutey MIx)
>7. Opps (Bjork)
>8. Lift
>9. One in Ten (UB40)
>10. Plan9
>11. 10x10
>12. Bombadin (QuicaMix)
>13. Bond
>14. Azura
>15. Lopez
>16. Crash
>17. Pacific808:98

Well what else can I say, they invented live non cheating shows, they have
always been one of the most innovative bands on the planet and Graham Massey
is a genius, the only track I think should be on here that isn't is Army of
Me which they did with Bjork although that was probably only Massey who did
that, as for a compilation its great I think they got all the tracks off the
masters because all they all still sound so freash its unbelieveable that
some are 10 years old.
If you like this type of music then go buy now, sell your soul,l sell your
car, because they dont get better that this :)

Oh and lastly
>
808080808080808080808080808080808.
>
Steve W




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From: "Benjamin Szabo" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) Orbital and Aphex Twin
Date: 05 Jun 1998 12:38:13 PDT


>I have to say, i was quite suprised when i heard Aphex Twin for the
first
>time. i really expected it to sound more like Orbital.(not to put him
>down, had enough hate mail about White ZOmbie) Does anyine know if
>Richard J. put out any works that sound more like Orbital? i have the
>R.D.J. Album.
>
>    oh yeah.........
>        What would you categorize Orbital as? Is it Techno,
>Trance, or what? or is it just plain and pure Orbital? Stange..  What
>other folks sound just like Orbital? i recently fell in love with
>Orbital, and want to find out more.
>
>A n n i a h l a t e
>
>Waylon


I think it's safe to say that RDJ's sound is unique, I wouldn't compare
him to Orbital. The album you MUST get is Aphex Twin - Selected Ambient
Works 85-92.

To my limited knowledge, there's no one that reminds me of Orbital, but
sometimes I hear Kraftwerk's influence in Orbital's music, which could
be expected I guess. I think they have a lot of different elements, from
techno to trance, electro, some jungle and ambient, with their own
flavor mixed in there, but you could spend a long time dissecting each
album and analyzing every track. I'll let someone else offer something
more definitive.

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From: [e-mail] (Dan LeBoeuf)
Subject: RE: (orbital) (nonorbital) mogwai
Date: 05 Jun 1998 16:50:54 -0500


Where could I find, and under what name would I find this disc or LP?

Dan
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At 17:05 27/5/98 -0400, KELL SIMON wrote:
>
>any comments from anyone on the mogwai vs. satan disc?
>have heard good things about it.

Excellent. I can't fault any of the four tracks. The Surgeon mix is
incredible, not at all the hard-as-nails techno I expected, just a loud
drone really, but I love it! The mu-ziq mix is sort-of jungly (i.e. as
jungly as Mike Paradinas' stuff ever really gets), the Mogwai mix is very
dark and brooding, not techno or whatever, but I love it anyway. The Kevin
Shields mix is amazing too, very long and loud and excellent.
The remix album ('Kicking a dead pig') has the Surgeon and Mogwai remixes
on it, and several others, and is excellent too, especially Arab Strap's
"Gwai on 45".
I'm so pleased I bought it.

cheers,
Jon


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From: Brian <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) Sampling Question
Date: 05 Jun 1998 22:12:34 -0400


There's a sample of notes repeatedly descending in Orbital's 'Chime' and
also in Joey Beltram's 'Energy Flash' and I was wondering which one of
these artists sampled the other or if it was taken from an outside source?
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From: Frederic Fournier <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) Discovery of the week: boards of canada
Date: 06 Jun 1998 03:45:36 -0400 (EDT)



Wow. Aphex twin lovers, you`ve gotta try this! "Boards of canada: music
has the right to children", on warp records.

Madness similar to RDJ`s drives this music, but it has a somewhat
different style, a small tendency (not big but still) towards
stereolabish sound, and real interesting older-sounding synths... I've
heard they've been influenced by childrens programs (a la sesame street,
like) among others..... Oh I know, this is not telling much, but you have
to know that this is totally unique-sounding...

Okay so if you were to mix 50% of Aphex twin, 15% Stereolab, 15% Prodigy,
and some Skinny puppy maybe too, well you'd be halfway to boards of
canada.

I really really recommend that you get your local store to unwrap you a
copy so you can look up some songs... I`d warmly recommend 12 and 6 to
begin with, listen to the whole of 12 it`s real nice... Everyone I`ve got
to listen to it wore some sort of charmed idiotic smile as they heard the
lady counting... one. two. three. four. etc etc... Try it! For lovers of
madness.

And as a totally useless addition to this email: I've finally found peel
session, yipee!

oh and btw we've been discussing about what good canadian techno there
is... Well I've heard that this is a scottish band, no idea why they say
canada in their name. Oh and I've also heard that they're pretty crazy in
the head the guys who make that music, and that one of the three actually
had to leave the project when he was interned in an asylum... I can
believe that, and you will after you've listend to Music Has a Right to
Children!


if nonorbital messages annoy anyone, flame away. I think that they're
appropriate as we're all hungry for more good music, and Orbital can't
possibly satisfy all our needs with one album per two years (It'd take
one per month or two months I'd say).  :)

one. two. three. four. five. six. seven. eight. nine, one, ten. eleven.
twelve. thirteen. fourteen. fifteen. sixteen. seventeen. eightteen.
nineteen. twenty. twentyone. twentytwo. twentythree. twentyfour.
twentyfive. twentysix. twentyseven. twentyeight. twentynine. thirty.
thirtyone. thirtytwo. thirtythree. thirtyfour. thirtyfive. thirtysix.
fourtyfour. sixtyeight. twentyseven. thirtyfive. fourtytwo. fiftyeight.
fortyseven.


sixtyten! sixsevenfiftysixsixtythreefortyfour.

My mind is going.
I can feel it.

Derf

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From: [e-mail] (Reece KH)
Subject: (orbital) james titchmarsh?
Date: 06 Jun 1998 08:53:04 GMT


sorry to bother everyone, i'm trying to get in touch with james titchmarsh, the bloke selling the orbital
glasses.

james, did you get my cheque?

-= over and out =-

reece


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From: Jon Green <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) Sampling Question
Date: 06 Jun 1998 14:27:13 +0100


At 22:12 5/6/98 -0400, Brian wrote:
>
>There's a sample of notes repeatedly descending in Orbital's 'Chime' and
>also in Joey Beltram's 'Energy Flash' and I was wondering which one of
>these artists sampled the other or if it was taken from an outside source?
>Thanks.

As far as I'm aware they both sample it from an MK track, but he may have
sampled it himself. Beltram and Orbital both reversed it, I think.

cheers,
Jon

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Subject: Re: NDN: Re: (orbital) Lords of the Realms (no orbital
Date: 06 Jun 1998 14:28:41 +0100


At 13:51 5/6/98 +0000, Morey Gamble wrote:
>
>>
>> Sorry. Your message could not be delivered to:
>>
>> MICHAEL KENNEDY (Mailbox or Conference is full.)
>>
>
>    Has anyone else gotten this response? It's happening again.... (and
>I know I'll get it again for this message...

I'm sure we all get it. I suppose there's no way of letting Michael know
his mailbox is full, and he might not realise it, and he's probably
wondering why he's getting no new mail.

cheers,
Jon

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Subject: (orbital) Popp in Reykjavik on RealVideo today!
Date: 06 Jun 1998 15:00:59 +0000


Hi!

I'm not sorry to inform you that the music festival Popp in Reykjavik will
be webcast live from http://this.is/popmuzik today from 18.00 GMT (10:30 am
PDT). The webcast will feature 10 Icelandic bands including Moa and gusgus.

Feel free to spread the word

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From: Brian <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) Sampling Question
Date: 06 Jun 1998 11:26:21 -0400


>>There's a sample of notes repeatedly descending in Orbital's 'Chime' and
>>also in Joey Beltram's 'Energy Flash' and I was wondering which one of
>>these artists sampled the other or if it was taken from an outside source?
>
>As far as I'm aware they both sample it from an MK track, but he may have
>sampled it himself. Beltram and Orbital both reversed it, I think.

Now that you mention it, in the beginning of the Ray Keith Mutation of
'Chime', the sample is reversed and sped up.  I wonder if this is what the
'original' sample sounds like?  If anyone (Steve) knows for sure or can
find out where it came from, I'm really curious.  Also, where can I find
the MK track it is used in, and who is MK?



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From: Frederic Fournier <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) Attempt at describing Boards of Canada, take two...
Date: 06 Jun 1998 13:39:40 -0400 (EDT)



Okay I will update my description:

Boards of Canada is a mix of Aphex Twin on Valium + Autechre on Prozac.

Check it out.

There you go.


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From: <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) more new stuff
Date: 06 Jun 1998 16:44:55 EDT


hey all--picked up the new massive attack album and "jelly tones" by ken ishii
the other day (just realized tricky's new album's either out or due out
soon....anyone heard it yet?)   anyway, the MA album's brilliant--i wasn't
sure what to think of it at first, but it's steadily growing on me, not unlike
a fungus.  as for jelly tones, any of you who liked the brown album and/or
sniv, i highly recommend this to--very similar stylistically, but a little
more minimal, and dancier.

--matt


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From: Steve Wright <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) more new stuff
Date: 06 Jun 1998 22:38:33 +0100


Im glad you like the MA album one of my fav's along with OK Computer, Ive
never heard of Ken ishii though hmmm

Steve


->hey all--picked up the new massive attack album and "jelly tones" by ken
ishii
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Subject: Re: (orbital) Sampling Question
Date: 06 Jun 1998 23:32:49 +0100


At 11:26 6/6/98 -0400, Brian wrote:
>
>Also, where can I find
>the MK track it is used in, and who is MK?

Marc Kinchen, used to be Kevin Saunderson (Inner City, Reese Project)'s
engineer. His most famous work is probably the remixes of Nightcrawlers'
'Push the feeling on'.

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From: [e-mail] (Brandon Invergo)
Subject: Re: (orbital) Orbital and Aphex Twin
Date: 06 Jun 1998 19:58:12 EDT


On Fri, 5 Jun 1998 07:27:31 -0400 [e-mail] (trent 242 x)
writes:

> Stange..  What other folks sound just like Orbital? i
>recently fell in love with
>Orbital, and want to find out more.
>
>A n n i a h l a t e
>
>Waylon
>
>
one group that i love that i find sounds a lot like orbital is Empirion.
get they're album Advanced Technology.  Its very cool.  If you've heard
the remix of Empirion's song Ciao on the Digital Empire compilation,
don't trust it.  That's not at all what Empirion sounds like.  get the
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From: "Mehul Parekh" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) huge sale
Date: 06 Jun 1998 18:02:57 PDT


Hey:
For those of you interested, ab-cd.com has a sale right now on imports.
Orbital has 2 listed:
The sampler cd w/ Belfast, TGWTSIHH, Sad But True, Impact USA + magazine
for $6.96;
Times Fly double vinyl for about 4 bux!!!
If interested go fetch at www.ab-cd.com.
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Subject: (orbital) owww halcyon meaning, amongst others
Date: 07 Jun 1998 05:50:06 +0200


i don't know who mailed mtveurope's chillout zone this weekend, it has been
a fabulous for orbital and underworld fans:

friday night, party zone:  belfast/wasted
saturday night, chillout zone: halcyon from the radiccio ep
and also that night: underworld's rez.

i could tape the both ful.  belfast i got the first minute or so not...

and about halcyon: the vid displays the following at the end:

halcyon
1) peaceful, gentle and calm
2) greek myth, a fabulous bird
3) hypnotic sleeping pill.  side effects: a sense of detachment, possible
psychosis

halcyon days
1) a fortnight of calm during the winter solstice
2) a period of peace and happiness.

kinda explains all options?  i have to say: with the knowledge of rumours
that the brothers' mother had a bad experience with halcyon makes the vid
kinda frightening...  if you see someone imagining people coming out of the
drain, uh...

man, i'm hungry for some of those plates and cups eh ;)


now i'm sure this is my music: i get goose skin, my eyes start to get weary,
i feel emotional...  this is goooood stuff...

PS: ah, and aphex twin and the orb's little fluffy clouds were on also, and
i taped them also...  in fact, fluffy coulds came right behind halcyon...

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From: "Dr. Killpatient" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) Adnon
Date: 06 Jun 1998 21:52:47 -0700


Anyone have any info or heard the Orbital track 'Adnon'
from the compilation "Help" from 1995???
I found it at cdnow, but I don't recognise that title...
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From: "Aimee Couture" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) A year ago today..
Date: 07 Jun 1998 00:03:00 -0700


If you don't want to read my rambling reminiscent ramblings... stop here..otherwise, carry on..

Hey guys......
A year ago today I got my first orbital CD. In Sides. I only remember the date 'cuz I picked up my Lollapalooza tickets that day, and they print the date you pick them up on the ticket. Anyway.. I got my Lolla tickets 'cuz I wanted to go for the sake of going. And I got In Sides 'cuz I wanted to know the work of one group there well.. I was either gonna go with Orbital or Tool... Coulda been scary if I'd become Tool obsessed instead of Orbital.. but anyway..

I'd never really heard any orbital before that day.. I'd seen the box on muchmusic, but decided it was too freaky for me.. and I'd heard the saint a million times.. but nothing more..

So I figured I'd get some orbital.. picked up in sides 'cuz it looked pretty.. (honest).. and I took it home.. and put it in.. from the MOMENT tgwtsihh started, I was hooked.

Just under a month after that, I saw the brothers live at Lolla.. and it was just the most incredibe night of my life.. I still have my glowtoys and whistle (sorry people-like-me haters) from that night hanging on the wall by my desk.. and I have my signed program in my sketch book (ticket is *somewhere* in my room) and I still remember exactly what I was wearing and what my hair was like.. and that I was in the front row.. and shannon was with me.. (she had the nerve to say orbital was 'boring' live)... and I remember the pictures on the video screens.. and that damn blue light in my eyes the whole time.. and having to beg $1.50 off strangers to get my shirt.. and when I think hard enough I can run bits of the set through my mind.. perfect night..

That night just added to my obsession.. I *knew* I'd hit something special.. and I'd never ever give up on it.. I lose interest in most groups real fast.. but here I am a year later.. probably more obsessed than ever.. (but is that a good thing or a bad thing?)

I joined the list pretty much right after I got in sides.. and I know I was a little shit disturber back then (sorry).. and maybe I still am.. but the core group of you guys (lessee... steve price, dose, jon romley, ian moore... ummm... all the regs) are like family to me now.. thanks for puttin up with me guys..

Anyway.. here's to orbital and having more great music from them in the future.. I don't care how long the new album takes, as long as it's great.. it would be nice to have it before I'm off to university though (one more year.. woohoo)

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From: "Daniel Kasaj" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) Adnon
Date: 07 Jun 1998 10:00:08 +0200


Dr. Killpatient wrote:
>Anyone have any info or heard the Orbital track 'Adnon'
>from the compilation "Help" from 1995???
>I found it at cdnow, but I don't recognise that title...
>paul

My neighbour has that Help compilation and he's really frustrated he
never got his hands on the tracklist. The track you are mentioning is
in fact "Adnan's" from In Sides, and it's pretty much the same version
except you have a Bosnian guy talking in the very begining, speaking
in english of course, but with a lousy accent. I prefer the 'clean' version
off of In Sides. If you're going to buy the Help compilation for the sake
of helping the children of war go right ahead, but if you're getting it for
the music's worth....you'd be better off with something else.

So, you're all hooked on Mezzanine now, huh ? Well I just
downloaded it yesterday night so I can check out what the whole fuss
is about. I was never a Massive Attack fan, I only know of Unfinished
Sympathy (is that the name, or is it Symphony?), and remember it
being played in key moments in the movie Sliver ;-).

np: 2 Bad Mice - Bombscare, original version. Stumbled at this one
in the same site where the MA album was... I love this track because
there's a short edit on the Renaissance compilation.

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From: "Price, Steve A" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) Adnan
Date: 07 Jun 1998 14:12:35 +0100


>Anyone have any info or heard the Orbital track 'Adnon'
>from the compilation "Help" from 1995???
>I found it at cdnow, but I don't recognise that title...

Its the original version of Adnans. It IS different...love the sample of
the father talking about his child - shame they dumped it for the In
Sides version. Its only 4 mins or so (or less) as they was restricted
for how much they could contribute to this charity album.

Hope that helps

Thanx

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From: Brian Frick <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) CD-5 for sale // Chime
Date: 07 Jun 1998 10:10:46 -0400


Hey, guys;

I just found a copy of the CD-5 "Orbital" (Internal, LIECD23/850 281.2) if
anyone is interested.  $16 total, and it's yours.

Does anyone have a way for one to find the original Chime on CD or CD-R?
Aside from the album the live version is on...

Thanks!!
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From: "Steve Wright" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) MASSIVE ATTACK LIVE BBC RADIO 1 9.00 tonight
Date: 07 Jun 1998 16:00:43 +0100


Enjoy :)


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From: Nub <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) long and mostly non-orbital, sorry...
Date: 07 Jun 1998 13:14:23 -0500 (EST)


> >I have to say, i was quite suprised when i heard Aphex Twin for the
> first
> >time. i really expected it to sound more like Orbital.(not to put him
> >down, had enough hate mail about White ZOmbie) Does anyine know if
> >Richard J. put out any works that sound more like Orbital? i have the
> >R.D.J. Album.

but does the first track (four) kick ass or what? beautiful, brilliant
stuff. "pretty good." "yeah."

i have to admit that i am a bigger fan of orbital than rdj, but i still
think he's amazingly talented. a lot of his music reminds me of jazz - you
really need to develop an appreciation for it.

> >    oh yeah.........
> >        What would you categorize Orbital as? Is it Techno,
> >Trance, or what? or is it just plain and pure Orbital? Stange..  What
> >other folks sound just like Orbital? i recently fell in love with
> >Orbital, and want to find out more.

they run the gamut, i think. and everything seems to be good, which is
amazing (and which is why i'm on the list). i think they're the most
consistently good techno band out there.

> I think it's safe to say that RDJ's sound is unique, I wouldn't compare
> him to Orbital. The album you MUST get is Aphex Twin - Selected Ambient
> Works 85-92.

that is correct, sir. actually, SAW1 does remind me a lot of orbital, in a
way. there's the same sort of attention to melody - fewer samples i guess,
but rdj really knows how to get the most out of a few sounds.

i should have asked this a long time ago, but is anyone else a fan of towa
tei? they recently (like a couple months ago) released "sound museum" in
the US, and it's pretty damn good. hip hopish with a techno edge. some of
it is throwaway r&b crap, but the good songs are amazing. the biz markie
beatboxing track rocks on.

by the way, yes, towa tei is the lost member of deee-lite. and from what i
can tell, he's the reason that they were actually good at one time.

one more thing - where's the best place to find out about raves in the
northeast? like new york/mass/conn area? i thought there was a mailing
list at one point.

take it easy,
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From: Elliot Bancroft <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) RE NEOTROPIZ
Date: 07 Jun 1998 11:55:36 -0700 (PDT)


Has anyone ever heard - or got a track by Orbital (I think) called
NEOTROPIZ - I know there is group called NEOTROPIC with a song in
their own name but this is not it. I have it on cassette and the words
written next to it are "White Label" - ANY IDEAS????


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Subject: Re: (orbital) RE NEOTROPIZ
Date: 07 Jun 1998 21:07:14 +0100


The only think that reminds me of is Metropolis by Yello Magic Orchestra.

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From: <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) Empirion
Date: 07 Jun 1998 16:07:25 EDT


In a message dated 98-06-06 20:02:17 EDT, you write:

<< one group that i love that i find sounds a lot like orbital is Empirion.
 get they're album Advanced Technology.  Its very cool.  If you've heard
 the remix of Empirion's song Ciao on the Digital Empire compilation,
 don't trust it.  That's not at all what Empirion sounds like.  get the
 cd,it's good. >>
Hmmm...I dig empirion and all, but i really hadn't noticed much similarity
between them and orbital.....one group that i have noticed that sounds a lot
like orbital is pentatonik tho....anyone know if they've got any albums
besides 'anthology?"  i also find boards of canada similar....not in any real
musical sense, but just in the way i feel when i listen to them.

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Subject: Re: (orbital) long and mostly non-orbital, sorry...
Date: 07 Jun 1998 16:17:09 EDT


In a message dated 98-06-07 13:14:42 EDT, you write:

<< i have to admit that i am a bigger fan of orbital than rdj, but i still
 think he's amazingly talented. a lot of his music reminds me of jazz - you
 really need to develop an appreciation for it.  >>
just because i have this sorta streak in me, i'm gonna argue w/you a bit here
=)  most good techno groups/artists either remind me of classical or
jazz....orbital and aphex remind me much more of classical, in the way that
they're set up; fsol, amon tobin, and tranquility bass all remind me much more
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Subject: Re: (orbital) long and mostly non-orbital, sorry...
Date: 07 Jun 1998 21:29:04 +0100


Hey Fishy what would you say Orb and System7 remind you off?

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From: Jon Green <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) Empirion
Date: 07 Jun 1998 21:45:53 +0100


At 16:07 7/6/98 EDT, FishyT99 wrote:
>
>In a message dated 98-06-06 20:02:17 EDT, you write:
>
><< one group that i love that i find sounds a lot like orbital is Empirion.
> get they're album Advanced Technology.  Its very cool.  If you've heard
> the remix of Empirion's song Ciao on the Digital Empire compilation,
> don't trust it.  That's not at all what Empirion sounds like.  get the
> cd,it's good. >>
>Hmmm...I dig empirion and all, but i really hadn't noticed much similarity
>between them and orbital.....

Empirion are a lot harder than Orbital (especially Orbital's more recent
work), at least on the strength of 'Narcotic Influence' and 'Ciao' and
'BETA'.

>i also find boards of canada similar....not in any real
>musical sense, but just in the way i feel when i listen to them.

I'm thinking I'm going to have to buy that BOC album, all the good things
I've heard about it. Maybe I'll wait until I hear their track on the
Warp100 compilation. Autechre's new album in two weeks, can't wait!

cheers,
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Subject: (orbital) The Box lyrics
Date: 08 Jun 1998 00:57:59 +0400


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Subject: (orbital) Junior Boy's Own
Date: 08 Jun 1998 12:17:05 +0100 (BST)


> Jon Green    [e-mail]
> "Raise your hands if you think you understand.
>  Raise your standards if you don't."

Who's just bought the new JBO compilation then? ;)

It's fantastic, I don't think there's a duff track on it (I can even
cope with Simply Red!!).  Plus, you get three tracks of genius from
Weatherall...superb!

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Subject: Re: (orbital) Junior Boy's Own
Date: 08 Jun 1998 13:35:19 +0100


At 12:17 8/6/98 +0100, jON wrote:
>
>> Jon Green    [e-mail]
>> "Raise your hands if you think you understand.
>>  Raise your standards if you don't."
>
>Who's just bought the new JBO compilation then? ;)

How'd you guess? ;-)

>It's fantastic, I don't think there's a duff track on it

It is an excellent compilation, agreed. Get it everyone!

>(I can even
>cope with Simply Red!!).

Not so sure about that one, one of Underworld's less impressive mixes.

>Plus, you get three tracks of genius from
>Weatherall...superb!

Five by my counting: Bocca Juniors, St Et, MBV, Primal Scream and One Dove.
But 'Rez' tops the lot. Underworld's best work, without a doubt.

cheers,
Jon


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From: brain Lorraine <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) brown album vs in sides
Date: 08 Jun 1998 12:17:24 -0400


i'm kinda curious as to know which ppl like better and why. both are
awesome in my opinion.. probably the greatest two albums i've ever
heard... but they're SOOOOO different ya know?

I prefer the brown album way more myself. it has such an electronic feel
ya know... lush 3.2,3.2,impact,remind... everytime i hear those or the
remixes on diversions i just go NUTS!!!! with in sides.. i dunno..
sounds more classical.. more orthodox instruments being used. less dancy
almost (including that bonus cd with the box and times fly). lotta the
songs seem to have similar structure.. and all the music just blends
together so well on both of these two albums (unlike their first album
and sniv which i like, but the sounds and pattersn dont really work that
well with each other)


from the brown album to in sides.. is this really a progression in their
music? are they going more towards this more familiar feel or are they
just that diverse that they're bouncin' around with their styles? i'm
hoping that their new album will feel more like the brown album..
weeeeee'll see i guess >:P


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From: "Henry Cooke" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) brown album vs in sides
Date: 08 Jun 1998 18:52:31 +0100



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>
>i'm kinda curious as to know which ppl like better and why. both are
>awesome in my opinion.. probably the greatest two albums i've ever
>heard... but they're SOOOOO different ya know?
>


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>
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>peace,
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I prefer the brown album- it has more of an 'edge' to it, which, though
undoubtedly there in P.E.T.R.O.L, seems to be stronger in the brown album.
To me, the tunes seem more intricate on it too... Lush still blows my mind.

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Subject: Re: (orbital) brown album vs in sides
Date: 08 Jun 1998 20:06:42 +0100


At 18:52 8/6/98 +0100, Henry Cooke wrote:

>I prefer the brown album- it has more of an 'edge' to it, which, though
>undoubtedly there in P.E.T.R.O.L, seems to be stronger in the brown album.
>To me, the tunes seem more intricate on it too... Lush still blows my mind.

Me too, In Sides is too smooth and polished for my liking, though I loved
it when it first came out. I tend to think of brown and diversions as one
album though, the remixes are just so good!

cheers,
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Subject: Re: (orbital) brown album vs in sides
Date: 08 Jun 1998 12:09:35 -0700


Hey guys :)
Umm... brown vs in sides.. is it fair to ask? in my opinion they're both great albums.. but also both very different albums.. I love brown.. but I gotta love in sides cuz it was the first orbital I had.. sentimental value.. I listen to in sides and brown waaaay more than sniv and green.. though I'm rediscovering how great sniv is.. I dunno why I shelved it in the first place.. Anyway.. I don't think I could choose.. both have *perfect* moments and moments that aren't quite as good..
So.. I guess my opinion is that it's unfair for me to have one..

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Subject: (orbital) Adnon
Date: 08 Jun 1998 15:32:54 -0500



OU>Anyone have any info or heard the Orbital track 'Adnon'
OU>from the compilation "Help" from 1995???
OU>I found it at cdnow, but I don't recognise that title...
OU>paul

     It's the original version of "Adnan's" from In Sides. It a little
shorter, and a little rougher, but not terribly different. It's
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Subject: Re: (orbital) brown album vs in sides
Date: 08 Jun 1998 15:38:36 -0500




            I'm not gonna cast a vote either way myself, either. Until I
got In Sides, it was definitely brown, then for about a year after I got
In Sides, it was definitely my favorite. The last year or so has been an
even mix, but I've listened to Snivilisation more than either, probably,
and the Peel Sessions, as well.

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Subject: (orbital) r u recieving?
Date: 08 Jun 1998 15:26:54 +0000


    So, a friend of mine brings over a tape of r u recieving yesterday
because he wants to watch the video for 'Ni Ten Ichi Ryu' by Photek.
I sit down to watch it with him, and he says "Oh yeah, this has the
video for halcyon in it, too..." Sure enough, there it is, Halcyon,
as requested by aimee couture. Then, three or four videos later,
Autechre, 'Second Bad Vilbel', requested by danny colquhon (I'm
terribly sorry if i spelled that wrong). I couldn't help thinking,
"Damn, we're taking over the world.." Determined to subject the rest
of the free world to our (superior) music choices..Right on.

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Subject: Re: (orbital) r u recieving?
Date: 08 Jun 1998 12:32:33 -0700


**
So, a friend of mine brings over a tape of r u recieving yesterday because he wants to watch the video for 'Ni Ten Ichi Ryu' by Photek. I sit down to watch it with him, and he says "Oh yeah, this has the video for halcyon in it, too..." Sure enough, there it is, Halcyon, as requested by aimee couture. Then, three or four videos later, Autechre, 'Second Bad Vilbel', requested by danny colquhon (I'm terribly sorry if i spelled that wrong). I couldn't help thinking, "Damn, we're taking over the world.." Determined to subject the rest of the free world to our (superior) music choices..Right on.
**

Yep yep that's me... I had a request for lush on the episode that shoulda aired on friday (I told them to be nice and play it cuz it was the day after my birthday) but they reran april's episode again.. which was cool 'cuz it has the box.. but still....... When a show airs only TWELVE times a YEAR you'd think they could at least come up with twelve original episodes or something.. god.. I think they need to brace themselves for the wrath of aimee :) (once again folks, that address is [e-mail])

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From: "Steve Wright" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) brown album vs in sides
Date: 08 Jun 1998 21:17:29 +0100


Hmmm it would have to be Brown, just because of Impact and Halcyon <(my
first Orbital outing on MTV), Oh and it scares the shit out of the cat
aswell<LOL>

Steve

Then again I am fond if TGWISIHH and PETROL <ahhhhhhhhhhhhh> indecision
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Subject: (orbital) Insides, Deffinitly.
Date: 08 Jun 1998 16:20:02 EDT



I dont know why, maybe because it was the first orbital album I had and I base
everything else on that or maybe because I just like it better. although
Halycon+on+on s my favorite song...

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Subject: Re: (orbital) long and mostly non-orbital, sorry...
Date: 08 Jun 1998 16:21:14 EDT


In a message dated 98-06-07 16:34:56 EDT, [e-mail] writes:

<< Hey Fishy what would you say Orb and System7 remind you off? >>
Sure, throw a tough one my way =)  If i had to go toward jazz or classical,
I'd lean more toward jazz....but in all honesty, they remind me more of a pink
floyd style rock band (not that anyone had the same style as pink floyd, but
you get my drift hopefully)

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From: "Wouter Hermans" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) brown album vs in sides
Date: 08 Jun 1998 22:28:06 +0200


>i'm kinda curious as to know which ppl like better and why. both are
>awesome in my opinion.. probably the greatest two albums i've ever
>heard... but they're SOOOOO different ya know?

yeah, they're miles apart, but i see some things that they always keep:
flutes (or something that soulds like it) and women's voices singing
nothings...
>I prefer the brown album way more myself. it has such an electronic feel
>ya know... lush 3.2,3.2,impact,remind... everytime i hear those or the
>remixes on diversions i just go NUTS!!!! with in sides.. i dunno..
The remixes on diversions are waaaay good, but i also like the lush 3.1...
it's that flute...  it's so simple, but then it's so uh, it feels good...
impact on the other hand is much better on diversions...  and you gotta love
lush 3-3...  good thing i'm also into underworld (ps i'm gonna see these
guys uh 4-5 july in belgium on torhout/werchter)...
>sounds more classical.. more orthodox instruments being used. less dancy
>almost (including that bonus cd with the box and times fly). lotta the
>songs seem to have similar structure.. and all the music just blends
>together so well on both of these two albums (unlike their first album
>and sniv which i like, but the sounds and pattersn dont really work that
>well with each other)
well, i find in-sides sounds like more evolved...  the things from their
prevous work is still there, but you gotta listen well to hear them...  and
they're now multi-layered...  just try to find all the layers on tgwtsihh...
man, that's mindblowing...
>from the brown album to in sides.. is this really a progression in their
>music?
oh yes...  i couldn't live without in-sides, but neither without the brown
album...
>are they going more towards this more familiar feel or are they
>just that diverse that they're bouncin' around with their styles?
Well, i find that they don't bounce style, but that they have their own
style... if i talk about orbital, and someone asks me what kind of music...
i cannot say techno.  i cannot say ambient.  neither house or so...  it's
just so..complex...  it's orbital :)
>i'm
>hoping that their new album will feel more like the brown album..
the best of both would be nice...  but i think it will add another episode
to their series...  and it will sound completely new, just as brown did
after green, or sniv after brown, or in-sides after sniv...
>weeeeee'll see i guess >:P
yuhuh...  what was the last word again the album would come out?  fall 98?
or spring 99?
(underworld is postponed until spring 99, so... i hope orbital will be
faster... but then again, don't hurry, bcuz then the sound is no good...
just look at all those people who shit a new cd every 6 months...)
so i say: i hope the next orbital album will take lotsa lotsa time...  it
has proven that then the music's better...  (flame away! ;)
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Subject: (orbital) Brown Vs. Insides
Date: 08 Jun 1998 16:59:00 EDT



Brown, being that it has Planet, Impact, Remind, Monday and Halcyon, and also
for the fact that it DOESN'T have Out There Somewhere, which I STILL can't
listen to (the first part of it, anyway).

Brown is SUPREME...........

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From: "Steve Wright" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) Brown Vs. Insides
Date: 08 Jun 1998 22:05:25 +0100


>Brown, being that it has Planet, Impact, Remind, Monday and Halcyon, and
also
>for the fact that it DOESN'T have Out There Somewhere, which I STILL can't
>listen to (the first part of it, anyway).
>Brent


Whats wrong with Out There Somewhere, thats one of the coolest tracks they
have done, I like the strangled cat sound <bg>

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Subject: Fw: Message Bounce: Re: (orbital) long and mostly non-orbital, sorry...
Date: 08 Jun 1998 22:06:23 +0100


>> Yea your right thats the best description Ive heard, nice one Fishy.
>>
>> Best Steve




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From: "Doug Radcliffe" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) Brown Vs. Insides
Date: 08 Jun 1998 17:11:10 -0400




>Brown, being that it has Planet, Impact, Remind, Monday and Halcyon, and
also
>for the fact that it DOESN'T have Out There Somewhere, which I STILL can't
>listen to (the first part of it, anyway).

I agree with Brett.. I'm not a big fan of the first part of Out there
Somewhere.

 Picking between both albums is tough.. Overall, I think I enjoy the brown
album more.. but everything on InSides (except Out there Somewhere Part 1)
is fantastic.. including the extra disc.   Picking between these two CDs
islike choosing between 100 dollars in quarters and 100 dollars in dimes.
Different, but it adds up to the same.

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From: "Wouter Hermans" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) so tell me, what's so bad about out there somewhere part one?
Date: 08 Jun 1998 23:20:03 +0200


hi!

i don't get the fact that people hate out there somewhere part one.  ok,
it's not perfect, but you *have* to listen it to get the whole feeling of
out there somewhere...  i used to play part 2 alone, but it  got so dull...
with part one, it's complete...  it's like with the box part one and 2...

if you play part one alone, it's a fast thing, good to dance on and
whatsoever.  but with both parts, it has that special feeling and stuff...
that's why i play it also both.

same with lush3-1 and lush 3-2.  you never thought about starting off with
3-2 eh...

it's just the whole picture...


...and i do love the sample "i'll remember if it's the last thing i do!"

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From: "Wouter Hermans" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) voice
Date: 09 Jun 1998 00:58:39 +0200


hi!

quick question before i go to bed:

who's the voice, and who did the lyrics of belfast/wasted?  i so love em :)

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From: [e-mail] (tel ematik)
Subject: Re: (orbital) Brown Vs. Insides
Date: 08 Jun 1998 19:35:55 EDT


Out there somewhere (track 7) is by far my favoroite orbital song ever. I
am extremely suprised that someone "can't listen to it".  To me this is
pure innovation. I like track 8 as well but the first part is just
fantastic.

On another note, I never really liked the box until now. I read they were
influenced by ennio morricone, so i bought one of his cd's (film music
volume 2) and after hearing It  I can understand the box now. I really
enjoy the first part especially. I would reccomend Ennio Morricone for
fans of Insides.

take care

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From: [e-mail] (Brandon Invergo)
Subject: (orbital) Orbital Lyrics(including The Box)
Date: 08 Jun 1998 19:46:10 EDT


>I'm searching for "The Box" lyrics. Can anyone help me?

umm. ill try.  no...i won't.  Their is one site on the web that i found
that does have the lyrics to the box and also transcribes all of the
samples used in all of orbital's songs and tells where the samples are
from.  I don't know the exact site (it's on geocities) but ill tell you
how i found it (are you excited yet? heh.) first go to www.ubl.com, then
search for orbital.  after it does it's search, click on orbital.  when
it's done, scroll down a bit, then you will come to something titled The
Orbital Lyrics Page.  That's about the best I could do, but if you find
it, then I guess it all pays off, eh? Oh yeah, have fun while you're
doing it.

By the way,  two questions:  1)  When exactly is the new Autechre coming
out? and 2) Does anyone know of ANY good techno coming to the chicago
area? (i think i've already asked that one, though)

    Khow,
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Subject: Re: (orbital) Brown Vs. Insides
Date: 08 Jun 1998 19:35:55 EDT


Out there somewhere (track 7) is by far my favoroite orbital song ever. I
am extremely suprised that someone "can't listen to it".  To me this is
pure innovation. I like track 8 as well but the first part is just
fantastic.

On another note, I never really liked the box until now. I read they were
influenced by ennio morricone, so i bought one of his cd's (film music
volume 2) and after hearing It  I can understand the box now. I really
enjoy the first part especially. I would reccomend Ennio Morricone for
fans of Insides.

take care

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From: Frederic Fournier <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) Orbital and Aphex Twin
Date: 08 Jun 1998 21:54:02 -0400 (EDT)


On Fri, 5 Jun 1998, trent 242 x wrote:


If you like girl/boy and the last track of RDJalbum, then you must gigve
"come to daddy" a try. Aphex twin really is different from Orbital, and
is always pretty weird, but Come to daddy would the closest possible
imho. I haven't heard everything though.

As for categorizing Orbital, I'd call it "progressive techno" maybe? I
think that orbital, aphex twin, FSOL etc are pretty much exploring the
same kind of artistic inspirations as Pink floyd or Gentle giant did in
their day, only technology has evolved in 25 years.

>
> I have to say, i was quite suprised when i heard Aphex Twin for the first
> time. i really expected it to sound more like Orbital.(not to put him
> down, had enough hate mail about White ZOmbie) Does anyine know if
> Richard J. put out any works that sound more like Orbital? i have the
> R.D.J. Album.

>
>     oh yeah.........
>         What would you categorize Orbital as? Is it Techno,
> Trance, or what? or is it just plain and pure Orbital? Stange..  What
> other folks sound just like Orbital? i recently fell in love with
> Orbital, and want to find out more.


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From: Frederic Fournier <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) Brown Vs. Insides
Date: 08 Jun 1998 22:09:23 -0400 (EDT)


On Mon, 8 Jun 1998, tel ematik wrote:

> On another note, I never really liked the box until now. I read they were
> influenced by ennio morricone, so i bought one of his cd's (film music
> volume 2) and after hearing It  I can understand the box now. I really
> enjoy the first part especially. I would reccomend Ennio Morricone for
> fans of Insides.

Do try to find the single for the box, you won't regret it... Very, very
nice. It adds so much to the version on Insides...



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From: "morpheus" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) A few things
Date: 08 Jun 1998 23:53:34 -0700


Hey,

whoever wanted to know what RDJ stuff sounds like Orbital, I recommend The
On remixes EP, Selected Ambient Works 85-92, and for some really excellent
RDJ (not quite Orbital like) get Hangable Autobulb 1 and 2.  They are His
best works in my opinion and I have heard everything by Richard James except
SAWII.

Next on my list is the new Autechre CD.  What is the release date?  Does
anyone know what sort of sound they are pursuing on this disk?  And how
domestic is this release going to be?  Since I'm in Canada I will probably
have to order it.

Has anyone heard the Dust Brothers version of the X-Files theme?  What did
you think?  I thought it was cool and had a really funky sound to it.
Aren't the Dust Brothers really the Chemical Brothers?

that's all I can think of for now.
cya
morpheus

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From: "Price, Steve A" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) Original Chime
Date: 09 Jun 1998 08:41:04 +0100


>Does anyone have a way for one to find the original Chime on CD or CD-R?
>Aside from the album the live version is on...

I will have a copy of the 12 Inch Chime/Deeper for sale very soon. Its
the FFRR version. Im just setting up the FOR SALE section on Loopz. This
item is sitting there ready for sale....
Watch this space for some other Orbital stuff and some
Schematix/Schizoid Man stuff for sale.

Thanks

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From: "Price, Steve A" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) Preferred Orbital Album ?
Date: 09 Jun 1998 08:55:52 +0100


>I prefer the brown album- it has more of an 'edge' to it, which, though
>undoubtedly there in P.E.T.R.O.L, seems to be stronger in the brown album.
>To me, the tunes seem more intricate on it too... Lush still blows my mind.

Lush was brilliant when it popped up - so different in them days (make
it sound old eh!).
Its hard to say which album i actually prefer i think the toss up will
have to be between the Original Green (UK of course) and In Sides. But i
think they all have top tracks. Highlights for me...


Green         The Mobius, High Rise (one of my favs), Belfast, Midnight and
Desert Storm
Brown        Lush in general, Impact and Planet of the Shapes
Sniv        Forever (one of my favs), Attached (although i prefer the original
broadcast on         Peels show -segged to Semi Detached), Sad But True and
Philosophy         by Numbers
In Sides        The Girl With The Sun In Her Head (one of my favs), Dwr Budr
(one of my favs)         and Out There Somewhere.

Its hard to split classic tracks from brilliant tracks dont u think :)

Thanks

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From: "Price, Steve A" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) New Autechre
Date: 09 Jun 1998 08:59:41 +0100


>1)  When exactly is the new Autechre coming
>out? and 2) Does anyone know of ANY good techno coming to the chicago
>area? (i think i've already asked that one, though)

1) June 26th in Uk dunno over in States. But there are loads of promos
knocking about. Ive only heard track 1 and its very different but
pleasing :)

2) Nope :)

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From: Trym Asserson <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) Sally's Photographic Memory
Date: 09 Jun 1998 10:00:51 +0100 (BST)


Well, yesterday saw the addition of two new works in my collection.

One, David Holmes' "this films crap, lets slash the seats", which i haven't listened to yet, but only done an intro prg on the first song (10 secs with bells).

Second, and more important, Sally's Photographic Memory. What a compilation!!
Now, this System 7 group, anyone got any recommendations for first album to get?That also goes for Drum Club, in fact.

There's a new version of "Girl with the sun in her head" on this compilation, but all it says on the cover of the pack is BBC Worldwide, but it sounds like its recorded at a concert or something (due to presence of whistlers) but the quality isn't as good
 as that on the Satan (Kirk Hammett) or on Satan (Three/Two/One) ?

Anyone know?

AND, what was the relationship between Sally Harding and Orbital?

Totally loved Kirsty's voice on "Orange" by Opus 3 (if I got band, song and singer names right there.. :) ), if she's singing like that on other tracks/albums, anyone care to tell me which?

Yesterday dug deep into my money balance, but this was a necessity to open my eyes to all the good music out there ... somewhere?

Hello, yes please, I'm done.

Trym

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Subject: (orbital) official site?
Date: 09 Jun 1998 02:37:05 PDT


Hey,

Has the Rise Orbital website finally died? (I have a feeling Steve said
everything there is to be said on this a while ago and like a
flubblehead I've forgotten it)

I'm looking for an official-ish Orbital site so I can mail an
official-ish Orbital e-mail address and beg los bros not to play
Dublin's Red Box. Thanks to the powers of darkness there is a real
tendency for big name dance acts to play there, but it is a complete
hell hole.

So now you know.

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Subject: (orbital) Loopz issue 5 / Kraftwerk live reviews wanted
Date: 09 Jun 1998 11:19:43 +0100


All,

Issue 5 is nearly complete.

It will feature various articles (which ill mention when i can remember
what ive done :)  ) including an interview with u-ziq. Initial talks
with Phil "Schematix/Schizoid Man" Holmburg have started for an
interview in a future edition.

The reason for the mail is i know Kraftwerk are touring worldwide at the
moment and they are in the US now. If anyone does go to any of their
gigs and would like to write something (doesnt have to be detailed or
long) about the gig then please send it to me and i will print it. As
most know Paul Hartnoll loves Kraftwerk and it would be good to put some
articles in Loopz that Paul can read.

So any reviews of Kraftwerk live - send to     [e-mail]
                or        [e-mail]

Thanks in advance

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From: [e-mail] (MICHAEL KENNEDY)
Subject: (orbital) open mind / kinetic / GPAD
Date: 09 Jun 1998 11:59:10 +0100


I found an old compilation tape the other day with some Orbital tracks on
that aren't on any of the albums

the tape was called Give peace a dance (can't remember what number it was.
The first tape starts with a track Kinetic by Pied Piper - it says on ther
inlay produced by p&p hartnoll or something like that. The next track is
Open mind by Orbital

anyone know where these trax are from - are they b sides / or from some
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Subject: (orbital) John Peel? John who?
Date: 09 Jun 1998 12:42:32 +0100 (BST)


Who was/is John Peel?

How come both Orbital and Orb have something called the Peel Sessions (assuming they both refer to the John Peel Sessions).

Is that guy, if he is a guy, dead or still alive and has he made any contributions to the dance culture scene?

my, my, curiousity kills me someday

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From: "Praveen Reddy" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) Date: Tue, 9 Jun 1998 14:05:24 +0200
Date: 09 Jun 1998 06:09:19 -0600


Greetings everyone

Can somebody please provide a definitive review of the album Mezzanine
(by Massive Attack, I think) and, if possible, rank it out of 10.

Thanks

Galahad

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we'd been on the same side.  What a world that would have
been...."
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Subject: Re: (orbital) Sally's Photographic Memory
Date: 09 Jun 1998 05:16:42 -0700


Hey guys :)

**
Second, and more important, Sally's Photographic Memory. What a compilation!!
**

So.. it's worth it? I've had the oppertunity to purchase it twice in my life over the past year.. both times at the same record store down in Michigan.. the first time I didn't feel like it.. second time I really wanted it but I was like $3 short. Such is life. It was only like $25.

Saw the Event Horizon soundtrack for the first time in Canada yesterday. $30.99... it stayed at the store. Why does everything have to be sooooo expensive? Grr.

Now playing: DJ Hixxy & Bananaman--Forever [Brian you are COMING to hullabaloo :) ]

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From: Steve Wright <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) Sally's Photographic Memory (system7)
Date: 09 Jun 1998 13:20:22 +0100


I can help you out with system7 if you want there nice chilled stuff go for
"point3(water album)" and there harder stuff "system express" if you want to
play it safe and just go for some of there best work buy "power of seven"
top stuff, I have a copy of there first album for trade somewhere.


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From: Steve Wright <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) Brown Vs. Insides(THE BOX)
Date: 09 Jun 1998 13:26:05 +0100


Oh yea with you on that one, must be one of the best CD singles I have
bought, I just love that harpsicord <classic>, still sends shivers down my
spine.

Steve

>Do try to find the single for the box, you won't regret it... Very, very
>nice. It adds so much to the version on Insides...
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From: Steve Wright <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) Brown Vs. Insides
Date: 09 Jun 1998 12:42:21 +0100


<<  I like the strangled cat sound >>

DAMN!!!!!!  I never even THOUGHT of that.......now there's no way I'll
listen
to it!

Brent


Sorry Brent <LOL> :)
I still think its pretty cool but then again Im not a cat lover (Aimee dont
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Subject: Re: (orbital) John Peel? John who?
Date: 09 Jun 1998 13:50:16 +0100


> Who was/is John Peel?

What?!  You're living in the uk and you don't know who John Peel is?
He's the only original radio 1 broadcaster remaining and has always
played the best new music.  Not always dance, just anything that won't
get played anywhere else.  A bit of rock, dub, dance, weird shit,
african  - a bit of everything.
Anyway, he has always has sessions from new and great bands, again all
different stuff.  Sometimes the bands release them.

He's on Radio 1 at 8.40 Monday-Thursday (I think) and you should
definitely check him out.  He's also putting on a series of concerts etc
at the south bank centre in london throughout June (not sure of dates).

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Subject: Re: (orbital) John Peel? John who?
Date: 09 Jun 1998 13:45:10 +0100


John Peel is THE MAN, hes a DJ with BBC Radio 1 and had enabled many people
to listen to non-mainstream stuff, hes an absolute star and his taste in
music is phenomenal, as is his clout when the BBC started playing so much
drivel they left him well alone and thank god for that.

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From: Christopher Robin Zimmerman <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) Event Horizon soundtrack CD for sale
Date: 09 Jun 1998 06:12:47 -0700 (PDT)


Yes, I *did* find lots of altruistic opportunities and items to sell to
fellow list members during my trip to SF.  :)

I have a spare "Event Horizon" CD - Music by Michael Kamen & Orbital.
Only $12!  Such a deal.  Shipping included.

Trades always considered first.

Thanks,
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From: "Aimee Couture" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) Brown Vs. Insides
Date: 09 Jun 1998 06:12:02 -0700


**
Sorry Brent <LOL> :)
I still think its pretty cool but then again Im not a cat lover (Aimee dont think what I think your thinking <LOL>)
**

Should I ask what you think I'm thinking? ;)

Btw... thanks guys for the action on the list... I thought I'd have to start talking to myself.. :) And when I've been hyper since Thursday.. that could be dangerous :) :) I should bounce myself over to my bio books.. exam in four hours.. but it's waaay more fun being in the main part of the library where I can listen to my happy hardcore and keep having people ask how I can walk in my pants (Sheesh people.. they're only 33" cuffs)

Now playing: DJ Ham / DJ Demo / Justin Time--Here I Am

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From: jON <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) JBO
Date: 09 Jun 1998 14:21:56 +0100 (BST)


> >Plus, you get three tracks of genius from
> >Weatherall...superb!
>
> Five by my counting: Bocca Juniors, St Et, MBV, Primal Scream and One Dove.
> But 'Rez' tops the lot. Underworld's best work, without a doubt.

Yeah...I suppose so, although the Bocca Juniors track seems to be more
Farley + Heller than Weatherall.  I *thought* he'd produced the One Dove
album but I wasn't sure...

I think I might have to agree with you about Rez...mind you what about
Dark Train, Dirty Epic....?  By the way, Jon, are you on the Underworld
mailing list?  Never seen you there...

Tara

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From: Steve Wright <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) Massive Attack REVIEW
Date: 09 Jun 1998 14:14:24 +0100


> err total classic 10/10 if you like tear drop then you'll love the whole
> album, it tends to get a bit gothic in places but yea total classic go buy
> it and be happy, but dont get the limited edition CD cover, it'll probably
> come with a scuffed CD.
>
> best Steve

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From: brain Lorraine <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) John Peel? John who?
Date: 09 Jun 1998 10:29:15 -0400


> John Peel is THE MAN, hes a DJ with BBC Radio 1 and had enabled many

man u uk ppl are lucky.. radio 1??? that's how radio stations wurk up
there? geeeez.. i'm sick of this 99.428751648616 WhHJGDFJF thing here in
the u.s. >::P

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Subject: Re: (orbital) John Peel? John who?
Date: 09 Jun 1998 10:26:16 -0400


> Who was/is John Peel?

pssssht.. come on now.. duHHH!!... a guy who peels things! >:P

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From: [e-mail] (Ben Knowles)
Subject: (orbital) p.s.
Date: 09 Jun 1998 02:32:58 +0100


and another thing - often i've thought aphex twin songs are like works of
art in the purest form. more than any other music they remind me of an
actual "canvas" of sound. occasionally this makes it hard to listen to, but
then again some visual art is hard to look at. so, again, the appreciation
thing. hope that doesn't sound snobbish.

brown vs. in sides: brown wins. the lush/impact/remind suite is just too good.

out there somewhere part 1: honestly, if part 2 weren't there, i'd probably
not like it very much. but the transition from 1 to 2 is one of the
greatest pinnacles in all of music. goosepimples galore. oh, and i like the
idea of sampling themselves as well.

i was determined to buy something by either lfo or spacetime continuum this
weekend, but the place i go to didn't have either. so i settled on the new
(and excellent) tori amos album instead. maybe next time...

keep it non-artificial,
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Subject: (orbital) the jazz/classical thing
Date: 09 Jun 1998 02:26:09 +0100


>just because i have this sorta streak in me, i'm gonna argue w/you a bit here
>=)  most good techno groups/artists either remind me of classical or
>jazz....orbital and aphex remind me much more of classical, in the way that
>they're set up; fsol, amon tobin, and tranquility bass all remind me much more
>of jazz....

fair enough. but i hope you're not mistaking the fact that fsol uses a lot
of jazz samples for its structure actually being related to jazz. while i
like fsol, sometimes i just feel they throw sounds in randomly. sometimes
the samples happen to fall into the right place and you get some damn good
music out of it (has anyone heard cascade? i love it) and other times it
just doesn't amount to much other than randomness. the orb are even more
guilty of the same thing, imho. occasionally something goes right (most of
ultraworld) and other times... well... ick.

maybe i shouldn't have said jazz. i wasn't referring to the improvisational
character or anything (which i guess is what was implied). i suppose what i
meant is how a lot of aphex twin's music sounds on the surface like a bunch
of noise or a cacaphony of beats, but there is all kinds of complex shit
going on underneath that you later to come to recognize (similar to how you
can't really appreciate jazz until you grasp all the amazing complex stuff
that is going on and is way too technical for me to understand). so i could
have said classical too. just anything that requires a certain amount of
comprehension at another level to be appreciated fully. like a david lynch
movie. (had to throw that in - i just finished watching "wild at heart.")

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Subject: Re: (orbital) John Peel? John who?
Date: 09 Jun 1998 16:37:17 +0100


>> Who was/is John Peel?
>
>pssssht.. come on now.. duHHH!!... a guy who peels things! >:P
>
>peace,
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Subject: (orbital) My thoughts on OTS part one
Date: 09 Jun 1998 08:50:08 -0700


Okay.. my thoughts on OTS part one... It's fucking scary if you sit and think about it.. and think 'well that noise could be....' Trust me, you've never *heard* it until you've heard it during a thunderstorm at 3am in the dark. I made the mistake of doing that one night and I got sooooo freaked out. For me.. part one is freaky.. Suspense just building and building.. you dunno what's gonna happen.. then there's such a drastic change into part two.. from high pitched freaky noises down to something much calmer.. drums come back in.. without the suspense built up in part one.. part two is *nothing*.. my opinion anyway.. yeah.. part 2 is great if you want something nice to listen to.. lighter... but part one... god... it's just so.. Freaky.. or maybe this is my opinion cuz it's the first thing I'm hearing after days of listening to happy hardcore :)

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Subject: Re: (orbital) A few things
Date: 09 Jun 1998 14:11:26 +0000


> Aren't the Dust Brothers really the Chemical Brothers?

    The Chemicals were originally called the Dust Brothers, but there
were a couple of guys out in LA that have been calling themselves the
Dust Brothers since about '87. They produced Paul's Boutique by the
Beastie Boys, among other things (the newest beck album, hanson) I
think they threatened to sue, or something like that, but apparently
they are all on good terms now.


> still awaiting the arrival of Orbus Terrarum, Global Communication, Bjork's
> Post and others.

    I just got Global Communication's "Pentamerous Metamorphosis" on
friday, and it's really, well, interesting. I'm not sure what to
think of it yet, and that usually means I'll end up loving it. My
question is, on the cover it says "recycled from <some song> by <some
band>" (i can't remember the names, I don't have the disc here with
me). Is it just some sort of extended remix, or is inspired by this
other song/album? There is very little information included..


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Subject: Re: (orbital) Sally's Photographic Memory
Date: 09 Jun 1998 14:15:05 +0000


> One, David Holmes' "this films crap, lets slash the seats", which i haven't listened
> to yet, but only done an intro prg on the first song (10 secs with
>bells).

    The whole David Holmes album is excellent. Absolutely worth getting.


> Second, and more important, Sally's Photographic Memory. What a compilation!!
> There's a new version of "Girl with the sun in her head" on this compilation, but
> all it says on the cover of the pack is BBC Worldwide, but it sounds
> like its recorded at a concert or something (due>  as that on the
> Satan (Kirk Hammett) or on Satan (Three/Two/One) ?

    It was recorded live at (i think) the first insides show at royal
albert hall. I may be wrong.

> AND, what was the relationship between Sally Harding and Orbital?

    It's a good story. I think you can figure most of it out from
reading the book that came along with the CD's.

> Totally loved Kirsty's voice on "Orange" by Opus 3 (if I got band, song and sing
>er names right there.. :) ), if she's singing like that on other
>tracks/albums, anyone care to tell me which?

    Both Opus 3 albums, "Mind Fruit" and "Guru Mother". Opus 3 is by and
large considerably happier than that.  Orange is considerably darker
and sadder (more sad?) than any Opus 3 stuff. Just picture her
singing over insanely happy dance music. She also sings pretty well
in halcyon and lush 3.. :)

PS - the little fluffy clouds single did come yesterday.. Thanks a
whole bunch. I don't think I could put into words how hard I have
looked for that CD the last couple of years.. :)

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From: [e-mail] (Rich J Bide)
Subject: (orbital) Empirion
Date: 09 Jun 1998 15:22:37 -0400



Thanks to whoever recommended Empirion's Advanced Technology.  I ran
across it yesterday at a used CD store and wouldn't have given it a
second glance if I hadn't just read about it here. Well worth $7.99 for a
UK import.  The "Giving them drugs/taking their lives away" sample sounds
familiar, though.  Either someone else has used it, or I have Narcotic
Influence on a comp somewhere.

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Subject: Re: (orbital) A few things
Date: 09 Jun 1998 15:19:20 -0400



On Tue, 9 Jun 1998 14:11:26 +0000 "Morey Gamble" <[e-mail]>
writes:
>
>I just got Global Communication's "Pentamerous Metamorphosis" on
>friday, and it's really, well, interesting. I'm not sure what to
>think of it yet, and that usually means I'll end up loving it. My
>question is, on the cover it says "recycled from <some song> by <some
>band>" (i can't remember the names, I don't have the disc here with
>me). Is it just some sort of extended remix, or is inspired by this
>other song/album? There is very little information included..
>
>-Morey
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The original cover for the EP (released in 1993) reads "Chapterhouse
Blood Music retranslated by Global Communication into Blood Music:
Pentamerous Metamorphosis". Chapterhouse are label mates on Dedicated.
The Blood Music album has a few short instrumental interludes between
songs, but there is very little similarity between the CD and what Global
Comm translated it into.  Pentamerous Metamorphosis is amazing... you can
get lost in the subtleties.  It's great to wind down to.

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From: KELL SIMON <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) nonorbitalm-ziqsalsa&mesquite
Date: 09 Jun 1998 16:10:19 -0400


i have been enhoying recently m-ziq's salsa & mesquite and wondered if
other m-ziq stuff is similar in style.  any comments?
thanks
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From: Elliot Bancroft <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) BITS and BOBS
Date: 09 Jun 1998 13:38:34 -0700 (PDT)


Firsly whoever wanted fluffy little clouds r u talking about the one
by the THE ORB? IF so I'ts cool isn't it.
The link below will take you straight to a recording of it which you
can save to disk.

http://www.dtek.chalmers.se/~d4peder/fluffy.html


Secondly Global Communication people - what do you think about the
single Maiden Voyage? Has anyone got the album 76:14? Is it worth it?
What about deseo remixes - anyone got the cd?


Thirdly? Anyone go the Royal Albut Hall (London) When the P&P aka
Orbital played? How did you like it anyone on the dance floor at the
bottom? The atmosphere was amazing. Cant wait till they play live again.

Thats all

Cheers everybody


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From: "Steve Wright" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) BITS and BOBS
Date: 09 Jun 1998 21:45:16 +0100


If you go to www.hollibobolli.com she has some really good mpg files of Orb
including Little Fluffy Clouds among others.

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From: "Benjamin Szabo" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) p.s.
Date: 09 Jun 1998 13:45:52 PDT


>and another thing - often i've thought aphex twin songs are like works
of
>art in the purest form. more than any other music they remind me of an
>actual "canvas" of sound. occasionally this makes it hard to listen to,
but
>then again some visual art is hard to look at. so, again, the
appreciation
>thing. hope that doesn't sound snobbish.


Right on there!! That's one of the best descriptions of Aphex Twin I've
ever heard (not that I've heard many). As far as it being hard to listen
to, I can relate to that only with Ventolin, which is a brilliant track
but sometimes my mind just won't assimilate those frequencies.

If I had to describe the music discussed on this list (AFX, FSOL,
Orbital, Autechre -thanx Sam) in as few words as possible I'd say,
"sonic landscapes" or "soundtracks for the imagination". I'm constantly
on the receiving end of ridicule for the music I listen to, especially
at work, does anyone else experience this? I was trying to come up with
an explanation for their lack of appreciation for such amazing music and
I think it's because they don't or won't use their imagination. They
also have this mental block that doesn't allow them to accept
synthesizers as instruments. They believe that all electronic music is
simple and that any kid could produce some beeps and clicks and lay them
over a beat. The ironic thing is that a lot of electronic music is so
complex it puts most Top40 bands to shame when it comes to musical
substance. I guess you could expect narrow-minded thinking from people
who don't use their imagination.

That's all.

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From: "morpheus" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) p.s.
Date: 09 Jun 1998 14:09:10 -0700


>If I had to describe the music discussed on this list (AFX, FSOL,
>Orbital, Autechre -thanx Sam) in as few words as possible I'd say,
>"sonic landscapes" or "soundtracks for the imagination". I'm constantly
>on the receiving end of ridicule for the music I listen to, especially
>at work, does anyone else experience this? I was trying to come up with
>an explanation for their lack of appreciation for such amazing music and
>I think it's because they don't or won't use their imagination.

Odd thing. I used to have the same thing happen to me.  People used to
always say "how can you listen to that, it's got no singing"  But now,
everyone person I meet is wanting to borrow my cd's because they love them.
I don't know whether it's because techno is more mainstream now, people are
more open minded, or that I'm meeting better people.  For instance, when I
met one of my buddy's friends, the first thing he said to me was "you listen
to techno right, do you have little fluffy clouds?"  I was shocked to see
that someone brought up techno before I could.  Anyways, you get my point.
cya
morpheus

PS-love that description, "soundtracks for the imagination".  Great
imagination on that one.  You should copyright it before MTV gets a hold of
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Subject: Re: (orbital)
Date: 09 Jun 1998 22:35:56 +0100


At 10:00 9/6/98 +0100, Trym Asserson wrote:
>
>One, David Holmes' "this films crap, lets slash the seats", which i
haven't listened to yet, >but only done an intro prg on the first song (10
secs with bells).

Excellent album. I prefer it to 'Let's get killed', but nothing on either
matches up to his Warp classic 'Johnny Favourite'.

>Now, this System 7 group, anyone got any recommendations for first album
to get?

The Plastikman mix of 'Alpha Wave'. Get the single, so you get the full 19
and a half minutes of it, rather than the remix album.

>There's a new version of "Girl with the sun in her head" on this compilation,

I think it's from the Leeds concert they did to introduce us to the In
Sides tracks. PETROL has never sounded so good as it did that night...

>AND what was the relationship between Sally Harding and Orbital?

She was a photographer, and their friend.

At 23:53 8/6/98 -0700, morpheus wrote:
>
>Aren't the Dust Brothers really the Chemical Brothers?

The Chemicals used to call themselves the Dust Brothers, until the real
Dust Brothers complained.

And I'm recommending Like A Tim's 'Yeah Right' album, mostly for the cover
of ZZ Top's 'Legs'.

cheers,
Jon

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From: "Geoffrey Elgey" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) re: Global Communications
Date: 10 Jun 1998 08:39:55 +1000


G'day,

> Secondly Global Communication people - what do you think about the
> single Maiden Voyage? Has anyone got the album 76:14? Is it worth it?
> What about deseo remixes - anyone got the cd?

The "Maiden Voyage" singles are okay - though I think that track is actually
a re-working (or rip-off) of Tangerine Dream's "Love On A Real Train" from
the "Risky Business" soundtrack...the remixes are provided by Spiritualized
(basically a big cacophony over the backing track), The Grid, and Micheal
Brook (guitarist of 4AD and Sylvian/Fripp fame).

The album '76:14' is more ambient, though still heavily influenced by
Tangerine Dream, but well worth owning, especially for the last track - very
bliss. I actually prefer "Pentamerous Metamorphosis" to "76:14" however.

The "Deseo Remixes" - isn't that a bunch of artists remixing some Jon
Anderson (of Yes) choons? I haven't got that, but I do have the Global
Communications remix album (damn I can't remember what it's called now). It
has one of the Deseo remixes, as well as two tracks from "Pentamerous
Metamorphosis", and also Grid & Nave Katz remixes. Worth picking up, but
maybe not if you've already got PM.

Another release by the Global Comm's boys worth checking out is Reload's "A
Collection of Short Stories" - this is from about 1993/4 I think, and is
more IDM than ambient.

Lastly, if you're more into the ambient side of Global Comm's (rather than
their latest incarnation as deep house), then seek out the "Isolation"
single by Pulusha, which is actually one half of the duo (Mark Pritchard I
think). Very nice, with angelic vocals.

Cheers,
Geoff



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Subject: Re: (orbital) long and mostly non-orbital, sorry...
Date: 09 Jun 1998 15:47:22 -0700


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one more thing - where's the best place to find out about raves in the
northeast? like new york/mass/conn area? i thought there was a mailing
list at one point.

take it easy,
ben

     Ben,

     Check out the regional mailing lists / calendars on Hyperreal :

     http://hyperreal.org/raves/

     Can't say enough good things about the resources on Hyperreal - if you
     haven't checked it out do yer self a favour !!

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From: "Agust 'Nemesis1' Arni Jonsson" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) BITS and BOBS
Date: 10 Jun 1998 00:22:21 +0100


At 13:38 9.6.1998 -0700, you wrote:
>Secondly Global Communication people - what do you think about the
>single Maiden Voyage? Has anyone got the album 76:14? Is it worth it?
I (and many other people I know) have recommended 76:14 to anyone who likes
ambient music whole heartedly, and I've yet to meet someone who doesn't
like it. As someone else said, it's music for imagination, and relaxation.
Playing track 2 looped at low volume is awesome when going to sleep because
of it's slow steady rhythm and good vibes...

>What about deseo remixes - anyone got the cd?
I do, after a friend recommended it to me. It has 2 mixes by Deep Forest, 3
mixes by Trans-global Underground, 1 mix by FSOL, and 2 mixes by Global
Communication. In short, if you like these artists, then you might like
this cd, I did... especially the GC & DF mixes :) The FSOL mix sounds like
something from Lifeforms or Cascade.

For those who wondered, this was orginally an album released by Jon
Anderson of Yes and some Latin American musicians, and to quote the inlay
"...is the source of these remixed interpretations".


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From: [e-mail] (trent 242 x)
Subject: (orbital) (Re): Brown Album Vs. In Sides
Date: 09 Jun 1998 16:50:08 -0400


************************from the brown album to in sides.. is this really
a progression in their
>music?********************(underworld is postponed until spring 99,
so... i hope orbital will be
faster... but then again, don't hurry, bcuz then the sound is no good...
just look at all those people who shit a new cd every 6 months...)
so i say: i hope the next orbital album will take lotsa lotsa time...  it
has proven that then the music's better...************************

I think that orbital took a big, big swing from the Brown to In Sides. i
kinda makes me wonder what the new album is going to sound like. I mean,
everyone says it's supposed to have lyrics, and with this swing they've
taken... I pray(to trent reznor) that they don't turn into anything the
slightest bit similar to the Prodigy or the Orb. That would dissapoint
billions of Orbital trippers. I really don't think thy should have words
on any of their music, it's just plain weird.

Waylon


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From: [e-mail] (trent 242 x)
Subject: (orbital) Out There Somewhere
Date: 09 Jun 1998 16:56:02 -0400


Out there somewhere, parts one and two, are the best songs on that album.
i love the rest, and OTS(1-2) is orgasmic! i can't even begin to
understand why anyone would not "be able to stand to listen to it"!!

"are you okay?" " i'll remember if it's the last thing i do!"

artsy-fartsy bastards...


Waylon


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From: Frederic Fournier <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) Massive Attack REVIEW
Date: 09 Jun 1998 22:19:33 -0400 (EDT)


On Tue, 9 Jun 1998, Steve Wright wrote:

> > err total classic 10/10 if you like tear drop then you'll love the whole

Well, I'm a big fan of Orbital, Underworld, Autechre, FSOL, Aphex Twin,
Prodigy, KMFDM, NIN among others to give an idea of what I like most...
Well, the point is, I really am not excited at all by Mezzanine, and
though I am not diminishing it, I do not agree with your "go buy it it's
sure you'll love it" type of comment.

If you don't know and like Massive Attack yet, do *NOT* buy this without
first getting a good listen.

I may like it in time, but right now I'm rather displeased with this buy
that I did blindly, basing myself on enthusiastic comments on this list.


Derf

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From: [e-mail] (Brandon Invergo)
Subject: Re: (orbital) Orbital Lyrics(including The Box)
Date: 09 Jun 1998 22:42:56 EDT


On Tue, 9 Jun 1998 20:42:02 EDT [e-mail] writes:
>In a message dated 98-06-08 20:17:16 EDT, you write:
>
><<  2) Does anyone know of ANY good techno coming to the chicago
> area? (i think i've already asked that one, though)
>  >>
>
>Cripes, My friends and I always go down there for raves, we know whats
>up and
>we dont even live there. strange.
>

okay, okay, okay.  i admit.  so i am VERY lost when it comes to anything
related to techno or anything like that.  hell...for the past year, the
only person i could talk to about techno was me (im not really a good
conversationalist).  most people would say something like "turn that crap
off. all it is is the same sounds repeating."  ive never gone to any
techno shows ever (dammit).  yup.  most of the cds that ive bought have
been off of lucky guesses based on songs that i might have heard once
(orbital is like this actually: i saw the box on AMP and i decided to get
it based on that).  so leave me alone.  no wait, nevermind...bug me all
you want.  ill get better at it eventually.

keeping up my tradition of ALWAYS asking a question whenever I write,
whatever I write:  Has spiritualized ever been remotely techno?  i saw
them live, and they were very radiohead-ish (i saw em with radiohead) i
also have the cd "ladies and gentlemen we are floating in space," which
is the same kind of rock type music.  if they were techno, were they
good?

    Khow
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Subject: (orbital) Sally Harding Photographic Memory
Date: 10 Jun 1998 08:39:02 +0100


Trym,

I couldnt agree more about the Sally Harding Compilation pack - i was
blown away not only by the music (What did you think of the Schematix
track on there ?) but also the excellent book that came with it.
Sally Harding was a photographer for many artists including Phil, Paul,
Richard D James,Phil Holmburg, System 7, Micky Mann and co (Pressure of
Speech) etc. If you check the Orbital sleeves you will notice how much
she did on there....check Omen and Lush .... these were done by Sally.

Hope that helps

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Subject: (orbital) Official Orbital Website
Date: 10 Jun 1998 08:41:50 +0100


Ian wrote>
>Has the Rise Orbital website finally died? (I have a feeling Steve said
>everything there is to be said on this a while ago and like a
>flubblehead I've forgotten it)

Its dead (thank god!).
Official site is Loopz until further notice. If you want to send stuff
to Phil and Paul (please no spam though) ...  then you can send it via
me.

Thanks

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From: "Price, Steve A" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) Pied Piper / Open Mind (F.A.Mix)
Date: 10 Jun 1998 08:45:19 +0100


>the tape was called Give peace a dance (can't remember what number it was.
>The first tape starts with a track Kinetic by Pied Piper - it says on ther
>inlay produced by p&p hartnoll or something like that. The next track is
>Open mind by Orbital

Open Mind is from OMEN Single. Kinetic by Pied Piper (sometimes written
as Golden Girls) is a track written by Orbital and a friend from school.
For info on both of these check this page on LOOPZ...

Http://www.hyperreal.org/loopz/discog.html      (Orbital Discography)

Thanks

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Subject: (orbital) Sally Harding - Live track of TGWTSIHH
Date: 10 Jun 1998 08:49:53 +0100


Forgot about this question - its from one of the Sound City gigs - Leeds
- if i remember right (but its early). Its definatly not the Albert Hall
one though.

Thanks

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From: [e-mail] (MICHAEL KENNEDY)
Subject: (orbital) drums are dangerous
Date: 10 Jun 1998 10:52:07 +0100


i'm interested in getting a cd by drum club called Drums are dangerous
can anyone copy it onto tape / cdr

i could copy something in exchange of orbital or other techno stuff
possibly

orbital stuff i have is

green album
brown album
snivalisation
in sides
diversions
event horizon
satan (on spawn)
satan live cds 1,2,3
midnight choice cd
the saint cd
times fly
pied piper / open mind / kinetic
mutations
chime - ray keith mix on only for the headstrong ep

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From: "Price, Steve A" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) Autechre new album release date - whoops
Date: 10 Jun 1998 13:40:48 +0100


    I put the wrong date before.
    Its released on 22th June in the UK.

    Tracks are

    Acroyear2
    777
    rae
    melve
    vose in
    fold4,wrap5
    under BOAC
    corc
    caliper remote
    arch carrier
    drane2

Hope that makes up for that stupid mistake ;)

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From: Peppe PoP <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) John Peel? John who?
Date: 10 Jun 1998 16:26:06 +0200



>> Who was/is John Peel?
>
>What?!  You're living in the uk and you don't know who John Peel is?
>He's the only original radio 1 broadcaster remaining and has always
>played the best new music.  Not always dance, just anything that won't


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From: [e-mail] (Reece KH)
Subject: Re: (orbital) Massive Attack REVIEW
Date: 10 Jun 1998 18:10:25 GMT


> > > err total classic 10/10 if you like tear drop then you'll love the whole
>
> Well, I'm a big fan of Orbital, Underworld, Autechre, FSOL, Aphex Twin,
> Prodigy, KMFDM, NIN among others to give an idea of what I like most...
> Well, the point is, I really am not excited at all by Mezzanine, and
> though I am not diminishing it, I do not agree with your "go buy it it's
> sure you'll love it" type of comment.
>
> If you don't know and like Massive Attack yet, do *NOT* buy this without
> first getting a good listen.
>
> I may like it in time, but right now I'm rather displeased with this buy
> that I did blindly, basing myself on enthusiastic comments on this list.

yeah, i know what you mean. i have bought most of the 25 albums i've bought over the last year on
recommendations from the list. of those, i've had about 4-5 duffs, off the top of my head i remember

fatboy slim
jake slazenger
coldcut let us play
and a couple of others. i reckon, before you buy, ask all about it. i borrowed mezzanine to start of with, at
first i wasn't too impressed, but i think i'll get a friend to cd burn it for me for a coupla quid. anyway, good
luck hunting :)

-= over and out =-

reece


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From: "Daniel Kasaj" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) p.s.
Date: 10 Jun 1998 20:38:56 +0200


B. Szabo wrote:
+AD4AIg-sonic landscapes+ACI- or +ACI-soundtracks for the imagination+ACI-. I'm constantly
+AD4-on the receiving end of ridicule for the music I listen to, especially
+AD4-at work, does anyone else experience this? I was trying to come up with
+AD4-an explanation for their lack of appreciation for such amazing music and
+AD4-I think it's because they don't or won't use their imagination. They
+AD4-also have this mental block that doesn't allow them to accept
+AD4-synthesizers as instruments. They believe that all electronic music is
+AD4-simple and that any kid could produce some beeps and clicks and lay them
+AD4-over a beat.

to tell u the truth, since I've gotten into electronic music I've been
acting nothing but snobbish towards people who thrive on commercial
music. i do tend to get in those waters as well, but then i just declare that
+ACI-good music+ACI- and everything's fine :) no really, I've never met in person
anyone except two people that used to be on this list, who actually liked
this kind of music. i'm talkin orbital, underworld, orb, spooky (heard it on
radio the other day +ACEAIQ- i actually thought i turned the CD player on by
mistake),
afx, and lots of d'n'b lately -- especially from the metalheadz label.
guess that's why i like reading  everything u people have to say :)

Daniel
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From: ccfpark <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) Autechre, and others
Date: 10 Jun 1998 17:13:23 -0400 (EDT)


I've recently got really interested in a group called Autechre - I am really impresses by the works of this
group - It tends to merge quite well with my backround of musical tastes (242, Skinny Puppy, Coil, FLA,
Orbital, Orb, Underworld, Aphex Twin)  I'm curious if there are any other groups that sound fairly similar
to the style Autschre seems to kick.  I've actually run into one group in particular that has been suggested
to me but I have yet to listen to anything by them, the group is Squarepusher.  Does anybody have any
suggestions in regards to thier style and what would be good to listen to to get a feel for what
direction they take with music?

Thanks,
Chris Park

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From: Frederic Fournier <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) Autechre, and others
Date: 10 Jun 1998 18:04:38 -0400 (EDT)


On Wed, 10 Jun 1998, ccfpark wrote:

> I've recently got really interested in a group called Autechre - I am rea=
lly impresses by the works of this

Well, Boards of Canada (I've been annoying the list with BoC for a week=20
now :) ) have admitted being influenced a lot by Autechre, and you can=20
certainly hear it in their music... I'd say they have some things in=20
common with Aphex twin too, and the way they manage their complex beats=20
is both reminescent of Autechre and Orbital (hihats esp.)

Since your list of favored groups is pretty close to mine, I'd recommend=20
a group which I like a lot, Future Sound of London, especially their=20
latest album, Dead Cities. Another group that I've discovered lately is=20
Banco de Gaia, I've only heard Big Men Cry but it's a nice album.

If you feel like trying somehing more crazy =E0 la F242, FLA, try=20
Skinny Puppy and Download, which are mostly the same group (I think they=20
changed names because of the death of Ogre, a major member). Recommended=20
albums would be Skinny Puppy: Rabbies, and The Eyes of Stanley Pain by=20
Download is a very good album. As I said, this is noise/music in the=20
tradition of older F242, but Download do have more beats than Puppy.=20



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From: "Brandon Ludwig" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (orbital) Autechre, and others
Date: 10 Jun 1998 19:00:46 -0400




-----Original Message-----


If you feel like trying somehing more crazy =E0 la F242, FLA, try
Skinny Puppy and Download, which are mostly the same group (I think they
changed names because of the death of Ogre, a major member). Recommended
albums would be Skinny Puppy: Rabbies, and The Eyes of Stanley Pain by
Download is a very good album. As I said, this is noise/music in the
tradition of older F242, but Download do have more beats than Puppy.

Actually, Dewayne Goettel (the percussionist) died, but the band had brok=
en
up before then...it was just a clashing of unlike minds. Download is a
different band with only one of the guys (cevin key-the main man behind t=
he
music) I would pick as the first intro into Skinny Puppy to be  'too dark
park', very dark, but one of their best! Their older stuff is really
experimental. Rabies, though, is almost a ministry album (considering Al
Jorgensen produced it)....

My 2 cents :)

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From: Aronne J Merrelli <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) Re: squarepusher
Date: 10 Jun 1998 19:39:24 -0400 (EDT)


Excerpts from mail: 10-Jun-98 (orbital) Autechre, and others by
[e-mail]
> to the style Autschre seems to kick.  I've actually run into one group in
> particular that has been suggested
> to me but I have yet to listen to anything by them, the group is
     > Squarepusher. Does anybody have any

Squarepusher is really just one guy, Tom Jenkinson. Style wise, he is
absolutely _nothing_ like autechre :)  I think his style is usually
called experimental drum 'n' bass - usually it is a mix of techno,
jazz and breakbeat/drum 'n' bass, mostly influenced by d'n'b IMHO.

I personally think very highly of his music, but I wouldn't really
recommend it based on your other preferences - so definitely give
his stuff a listen before you buy... I think there are some RA clips
of his warp releases on the Warp UK website, check the warpography at
www.warp-net.com


Regards,
    -Aronne


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From: "Patrick McGinn" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) squarepusher
Date: 10 Jun 1998 20:34:31 -0400


I went and listened to those tracks, and man, Squarepusher is at the top of
my list.  I'm gonna run out and buy that CD this weekend...

Anyone know of any other good acts in the same vein?  Howie B (great stuff,
go grab Turn the Dark Off) and Mu-ziq spring to mind.  Moss recommended
Boymerang...  I wanna buy some CDs this weekend, like five, here's my list
so far:

1.) Apehx Twin - Selected Ambient blah blah blah (i finally caved in...)
2.) Squarepusher - Hard Normal Daddy
3.) Cypress Hill - S/T (pack it  up pack it in/let me begin/i came to
win/battle me that's a sin)
4.) ???
5.) ???

Thanks for any help.

Xaos
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From: Jon Green <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) Sally Harding Photographic Memory
Date: 10 Jun 1998 17:00:18 +0100


At 08:39 10/6/98 +0100, Price, Steve A wrote:

>I couldnt agree more about the Sally Harding Compilation pack - i was
>blown away not only by the music (What did you think of the Schematix
>track on there ?)

Best track on there, that's what I think.

cheers,
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From: Jon Green <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) p.s.
Date: 11 Jun 1998 02:15:43 +0100


At 20:38 10/6/98 +0200, Daniel Kasaj wrote:
>
>to tell u the truth, since I've gotten into electronic music I've been
>acting nothing but snobbish towards people who thrive on commercial
>music.

So I'm, not the only one then! It's hard not to, considering that this
music is so much more sophisticated and complex than commercial pop music.
I guess some people just don't care about what they listen to as much as we
do!

cheers,
Jon

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From: Doug Radcliffe <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) Sally Harding Photographic Memory
Date: 10 Jun 1998 21:37:31 -0400 (EDT)



> >I couldnt agree more about the Sally Harding Compilation pack - i was
> >blown away not only by the music (What did you think of the Schematix
> >track on there ?)
>
> Best track on there, that's what I think.

Anyone know where I can pick up this compilation pack? Or have it for
sale? =)

thanks

Doug



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From: jon masciana <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) Orbital tracks on cdr for trade
Date: 10 Jun 1998 19:13:37 -0700


Hi everyone, I've remained quiet on this list for awhile, but just wanted
to open the doors for Orbital trading--if anyone is interested in trading
some Orbital stuff, let me know, I've made two orbital compilations  (and
denoised the vinyl tracks and all that), and would definitely be interested
in trading for any Orbital stuff (live stuff, etc.) Here's the
tracklisting, if you're interested:

 Orbital remixes 1:
 Chime Original 12" mix
 Chime JZJ Bacardi Mix
 Deeper (12" version)
 Omen (original 12" version)
 Open Mind
 2 Deep
 Satan (Rhyme and Reason)
 LC2
 Oolaa (Joey Beltram mix)
 Stell Cube Idolatory (remix by Dave ANgel)
 Lush (Trancendental 1526)

 Orbital remixes 2:
 Chime (Oh Ya JZJ Mix)
 Son of Chime
 Omen (The Fall/Chariot/Wheel of Fortune/tower)
 Oolaa (Meat Beat Manifesto)
 Farenheit 3D3
 Open Mind (Funky Alternatives)
 Midnight (Sasha)
 Choice (Orbital Eye and I Mix)

Talk to you Orbital nuts soon---when is that new album coming out????! I'm
getting ancy---take care,

Jon


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From: Trym Asserson <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) Sally Harding Photographic Memory
Date: 11 Jun 1998 09:45:02 +0100 (BST)


> Trym,
>
> I couldnt agree more about the Sally Harding Compilation pack - i was
> blown away not only by the music (What did you think of the Schematix
> track on there ?) but also the excellent book that came with it.
> Sally Harding was a photographer for many artists including Phil, Paul,
> Richard D James,Phil Holmburg, System 7, Micky Mann and co (Pressure of
> Speech) etc. If you check the Orbital sleeves you will notice how much
> she did on there....check Omen and Lush .... these were done by Sally.
>
> Hope that helps

Oh yeah, Selbumatol (hmm, did i get that one right?) was really to my taste. Also, "China" by Banco de Gaia and "Airglow" by HiA (wish I came across some of their stuff as i really got hooked by their style when i heard them on that album in co-operation
with Biosphere).
The book didn't have any stories in words, but i like pictures and these ones told a lot and they were really great. In this period of revision for exams, buying that book was a bad idea as i can't put it away when i'm home because of all the great pictur
es. And i must admit I never knew Paul, or was it Phil, had worn a goatee.. ;)

maybe I should think about growing mine again then.

Well, speaking of Omen, I'm still looking and so's probably most people on this list, but anyway, if you come across it.. i'm willing to cash out some. the pics on Lush were good though.

Off to do some more coursework (9 days 'till vacation and 10 days 'till Roskilde Festival '98 ... wooohoo, beer-swigging Denmark, here i come..)

Trym

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From: "Mehul Parekh" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) Spring Music
Date: 11 Jun 1998 16:41:23 PDT


Hi:
Did Orbital do something on a cd called Spring Music?  If so, what track
was it?
Thanks a lot.

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From: "Price, Steve A" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) Orbitals playlist ?
Date: 12 Jun 1998 15:27:32 +0100


All,

Ever wonder what they listen to... this is their current
playlist..shocked u may well be :)

JOE MEEK................Musical Adventures Of (EMI/Kenwest)
VARIOUS........................Latin Amyl (Fused & Bruised)
ENNIO MORRICONE............A Fistfull Of Film Music (Rhino)
SCOT WALKER...............................1,2 & 3 (Fontana)
IAN DURY & THE BLOCKHEADS..............Jukebox Dury (Stiff)
VARIOUS............................Nu Skool Breakz (Kickin)
JOHN BARRY..............Best Of (Film & TV Themes (Polydor)
DORIS DAY..................Hit Singles Collection (Telstar)
DJ ICEY.............................The Funky Breaks (FFrr)
NANA MOUSKOURI...........Sings Hadjidakis (PolyGram Greece)

Cheers

Steve LOOPZ Price
Orbital Zine
www.hyperreal.org/loopz

ORBITAL    FFrr............New Album (#5)..................tba
    FFrr............tba.............................tba
    FFrr............tba.............................tba


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From: "Tom De Tant" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) Leftfield
Date: 12 Jun 1998 11:19:55 PDT


Hi all


Anybody know the release-date of the new leftfield album ?  Or did I
miss it?

Thanks

Kermit
Ze Frog

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From: "Steve Wright" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) Im outta here :(
Date: 12 Jun 1998 20:21:42 +0100


Hi all, I'm having my internet connection cut, so I wont be contributing to
this list from now on, but before I go I would just like to say thanks for
everything I have made many good friends and I will miss you all.

Best Steve

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      (bit I think Im more normal than most) - TRICKY

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From: Nub <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) olga closed!
Date: 12 Jun 1998 16:35:01 -0500 (EST)


this may or may not directly affect a lot of you, but it has profound
implications for the online community as a whole, and the freedom of
online information in general.

the online guitar archive (olga) closed a couple days ago due to a court
summons from the harry fox agency, an agency that represents the
_mechanical_ copyrights of several music publishers. the olga archive
consists of something like 30,00 guitar chord and tab files submitted
by members of the 'net. they are the individuals' own personal
interpretation, and have nothing to do with the actual copyrighted
material. what the hfa is essentially doing is to attempting to place
legal restrictions on intellectual "property." this is in direct
contention with the idea of freedom of information upon which the 'net was
originally, and should forever be, based. if the hfa lawsuit were to win,
it could mark the first step of a much larger scheme  by the money-hungry
big-business establishment to limit the free flow of information on the
internet.

the hfa has used bully tactics for the last couple of years or so to close
down several mirrors of the olga, but this is the first time the main site
has closed due to legal pressures.

olga is an invaluable resource for guitarists and musicians world-wide. it
has been accessed by some 500,000 people. it is the largest online archive
of its kind, that is, one based entirely on individual submissions.

right now there is still not a great deal of legislation in the US that
deals specifically with internet copyrights. thus, the legality of olga is
still, technically, a debatable question. to learn more about this
situation, go to:

http://www.olga.net

and click on the "more..." link. there's a great petition you can sign (i
signed like an hour ago, and there's already about a thousand more above
mine!) and links to copyright legal info, etc.

that's all. sorry to bother. oh yeah, and LONG LIVE OLGA!!!

rock on,
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From: Nub <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) Re: orbital-digest V2 #88
Date: 12 Jun 1998 15:24:07 -0500 (EST)



> I wanna buy some CDs this weekend, like five, here's my list
> so far:
>
> 1.) Apehx Twin - Selected Ambient blah blah blah (i finally caved in...)
> 2.) Squarepusher - Hard Normal Daddy
> 3.) Cypress Hill - S/T (pack it  up pack it in/let me begin/i came to
> win/battle me that's a sin)
> 4.) ???
> 5.) ???

i hope you mean aphex twin SAW 85-92. yes! cave! you'll be glad you did!

and call me crazy, but isn't that line from "jump around" by house of
pain? if that's what you want, you'll probably be disappointed with
cypress hill (though i like "black sunday" a lot). pick it/pack it/ fire
it up/ come along/ and take a hit from the bong...

nub



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From: [e-mail] (Brandon Invergo)
Subject: (orbital) kraftwerk
Date: 12 Jun 1998 19:52:23 EDT


the greatest thing happened two days ago.  i had gotten home from school
(final exams) at about 12:30.  around 3:00, i got a call from my friend
(he's on the list- [e-mail])  asking if i wanted to go to a
kraftwerk concert that night.  after an hour of arguing with my mom
trying to convince her that i HAD to go, she finally gave in.  oh damn
was i glad.  this was my first techno show i had ever seen and god damnit
it sure as hell beats any of those rock shows that ive been going to.

it kicked ass.  we were all the way up front right in front of (and a
little to the right) the stage.  the bass was up, the music was loud...oh
it kicked ass.  if you have the means of getting to one of their
concerts, i HIGHLY reccomend going.  wow.  ok, breathe... we are the
robots was awesome.  the band wasn't on the stage, and the video for the
song was playing on four screens in the back.  halfway through the song,
the screens moved down and the robots were there and dancing.  ohhh..
damn it was great.

the only thing that pissed me off that night was after the show was over.
 these two girls next to me got backstage passes for free with no reason.
 damnit, where's my backstage pass?

anyway, sorry about that, i just had to let it all out.  have a nice day
y'all.
    brandon

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From: "Mehul Parekh" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) Question
Date: 13 Jun 1998 18:50:28 PDT


Hi all:
I am thinking of buying a couple of these cds:
FSOL : ISDN
one Underworld
possibly Moby : Underground
I hate vocals when I am trying to listen to a album unless it is rock,
and also stuff that is waaaayyyy too ambient (Goldie's Saturnzreturn,
which I will sell by the way, just got it, played once, haven't touched
since).  I want stuff that sounds like Orbital (probably figured that
since this message is to the Orbital list).
Any suggestions?  Thanks and please reply only to me.

                               The Mehul

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Subject: Re: (orbital) Question
Date: 14 Jun 1998 00:06:25 EDT


In a message dated 98-06-13 22:41:26 EDT, [e-mail] writes:

<<
 Hi all:
 I am thinking of buying a couple of these cds:
 FSOL : ISDN
 one Underworld
 possibly Moby : Underground >>
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Subject: Re: (orbital) Orbitals playlist ?
Date: 13 Jun 1998 11:55:40 +0200


Steve Price wrote:
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Yeeaaah +ACE- I have this one :-)

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From: Jon Green <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) Question
Date: 14 Jun 1998 15:27:52 +0100


At 18:50 13/6/98 PDT, Mehul Parekh wrote:
>
>Hi all:
>I am thinking of buying a couple of these cds:
>FSOL : ISDN
>one Underworld
>possibly Moby : Underground
>I hate vocals when I am trying to listen to a album unless it is rock,

Forget Underworld then, unless you think you can convince yourself that
using guitars makes the music rock. Then again, ignoring them because some
of their songs have vocals would be a shame because their instrumentals are
so great.

cheers,
Jon

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From: "Patrick McGinn" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) Question
Date: 14 Jun 1998 12:20:36 -0400


><<
> Hi all:
> I am thinking of buying a couple of these cds:
> FSOL : ISDN
> one Underworld
> possibly Moby : Underground >>
>ISDN is brilliant.....and Moby sucks.....imho


Hmmm.  I like some of Moby's stuff.  The bonus CD in his "Rare" release is
great, 16 mixes of Go all blended into each other.  The first CD has some
cool stuff too.  And hey, that Bond reversion rocks.

I just got some CDs that I love, don't know if they're what you're looking
for:

1) Plug - Drum and Bass for Papa (Wicked good)
2) Various (Mixed by Mot) - Monster Breaks (Pretty good techno.  Lot of the
"MTV" names, still a good buy though.)
3) Metalheadz Presents: Platinum Breakz II (Great D&B IMHO.)

Both stores were completely sold out of anything by Squarepusher.  Damn.

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From: Elliot Bancroft <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) Question
Date: 14 Jun 1998 09:44:15 -0700 (PDT)



ISDN is execellent in fact all FSOL stuff is (Dead Cities included)
Underworld contains a lot of vocals (Second toughest of the infants
and dubnobasswithmyheadman)
I've been told that moby sucks

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From: Frederic Fournier <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) Orbitals playlist ?
Date: 14 Jun 1998 14:17:30 -0400 (EDT)


On Sat, 13 Jun 1998, Daniel Kasaj wrote:

> +ACI-i have killed a man...a man who looked like me+ACI-

Hmm if you're thinking on the sample on fsol's dead cities, isn't it more
like "had" instead of "have"?

just a thought

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From: Andy Jackson <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) Re: Sally's Photographic Memory
Date: 15 Jun 1998 10:44:25 GMT


Fopp in Edinburgh had copies of this at =A32.99 a few weeks back - and
lots of them! As Fopp are a Scottish chain, there may be some copies
at their other branches (Glasgow, Aberdeen, Stirling - and Sheffield
has a branch, too, even though it's in England!)

It's definitely worth the full price...but at =A32.99 it's a giveaway.
They also had copies of the Trance Europe Express/Trance Atlantic
series (all of them!) on CD, MC and vinyl for =A32.99.

Andy Jackson

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: l i b r a r i a n :
: s c h o o l * o f * n u r s i n g * a n d * m i d w i f e r y :
: u n i v e r s i t y * o f * d u n d e e :
: d u n d e e * d d 1 * 9 s y :
: t e l * 0 1 3 8 2 * 6 3 2 0 1 2 :


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From: KELL SIMON <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) nonorbital morehelpwithrandomquestionsneeded
Date: 15 Jun 1998 13:46:32 -0400


i tried to send this message last week but i think it was returned so i'm
sending it again.  if you've already read it then don't read it again.

i received a promo last week which did not list the artist or the cd title but
which i liked a lot.  it is on v2/alpaca records (couldn't find major label
affiliation but expect that there might be some).  it's a lavender colored
disc with a crescent moon shape made up of spheres.  the music is
loungy/jazzy with lots of interesting electronics.  there are vocals on
some tracks and none on others, and some of the non-vocal tracks are
ambient.
anybody know what it is?
thanks
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From: Brian Robke <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) Orbital S/T Addendum
Date: 15 Jun 1998 15:05:38 -0400


    Woops, just found out there is an extra song not listed as the 11th track
that is 51 seconds long. Just a track that sounds like the put on a record
and it plays the same few notes on a piano over and over. Just filling you
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From: Morey Gamble <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) Orbitals playlist ?
Date: 15 Jun 1998 15:05:36 -0400




[e-mail] wrote:

> Steve Price wrote:
> +AD4-DJ ICEY.............................The Funky Breaks (FFrr)
>
> Yeeaaah +ACE- I have this one :-)
>

    Icey's a good DJ, but I have to confess to being utterly sick of him. He
plays in North Carolina about every 2-3 months, seems like he's at every party
I go to. The CD is really good, but after about 2 hours of hearing him spin
what sounds almost like the same song over and over, it gets a wee bit old. :)

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From: Morey Gamble <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) Question
Date: 15 Jun 1998 15:10:52 -0400





> I've been told that moby sucks

    Man, does everyone in the world hate Moby? I admit I'm not always in the
mood for his style, but I certainly don't think he sucks. And his live show is
one of the most high-energy sets I've ever seen.  It just seems like most
people that don't like Moby that I've seen made the decision almost
arbitrarily, just because Moby-bashing has become the in thing. I'm not
accusing anyone of this, but I recommend everyone make up their own mind.. You
never know.....

-Morey





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From: Morey Gamble <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) Orbitals playlist ?
Date: 15 Jun 1998 15:12:12 -0400




[e-mail] wrote:

> On Sat, 13 Jun 1998, Daniel Kasaj wrote:
>
> > +ACI-i have killed a man...a man who looked like me+ACI-
>
> Hmm if you're thinking on the sample on fsol's dead cities, isn't it more
> like "had" instead of "have"?
>

    I think it's 'had'. It Lawrence Fishburne, from the movie Deep Cover.
Somebody rent it and figure this out.. :)

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From: Frederic Fournier <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) Orbitals playlist ?
Date: 15 Jun 1998 15:40:43 -0400 (EDT)


On Mon, 15 Jun 1998, Morey Gamble wrote:

> [e-mail] wrote:
>=20
> > On Sat, 13 Jun 1998, Daniel Kasaj wrote:
> >
> > > +ACI-i have killed a man...a man who looked like me+ACI-
> >
> > Hmm if you're thinking on the sample on fsol's dead cities, isn't it mo=
re
> > like "had" instead of "have"?
> >
>=20
>     I think it's 'had'. It Lawrence Fishburne, from the movie Deep Cover.
> Somebody rent it and figure this out.. :)

Phew... Am I getting infected too with the Sample Madnes Syndrome?

*sigh*

And on another train of thought, where in hell do all these ants in my=20
room come from suddenly?!

Guess I'll put Massive Attack up to shoo them away.

Hey seriously, Mezzannine's following me wherever I go, in bars and=20
caf=E9s, it`s been three nights in a row that I've been to places where=20
eventually they put up the whold friggin' album, shit I may actually end=20
up liking it!

I'll listent to it right away anyway just to make sure. :)

Whatever. Blah blah blah blah!



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From: [e-mail] (Dan LeBoeuf)
Subject: RE: (orbital) Question
Date: 15 Jun 1998 14:52:38 -0500


I have to admit.. having 13 cd's and a couple lp/ep of his... I used to love to listen to him
prior to Animal rights... I'll admit, he can play some rock and roll, but he used to be
electronic, and now... uh, punk? I saw live in 95 and it was funny, they lost electricity and
brought out a bass and guitar and played Led Zepplin, Nirvana and a couple others.
I was impressed with his crossing over talent, but "you are rock, don't do rock".
bond theme is cool for about 4 plays and then it reminds me of crap.
I can honestly say I lost a favorite artist to rock/punk.
I hope he likes it where he is, I hope so... he is getting paychecks for it.

Dan
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> I've been told that moby sucks

    Man, does everyone in the world hate Moby? I admit I'm not always in the
mood for his style, but I certainly don't think he sucks. And his live show is
one of the most high-energy sets I've ever seen.  It just seems like most
people that don't like Moby that I've seen made the decision almost
arbitrarily, just because Moby-bashing has become the in thing. I'm not
accusing anyone of this, but I recommend everyone make up their own mind.. You
never know.....

-Morey





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From: Brian T Robke <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) Orbital S/T
Date: 15 Jun 1998 15:02:45 -0400


    Welp, /finally/ got this cd I was wondering about (you remember, the
Japanese one for like $40).  It's /not/ the same as the Green album. It
does a few of the same songs (cover looks the same as well).  Just incase
you were thinking of buying this album, here is the playlist:

    The Moebius            7.01
    Speed Freak            7.17
    Oolaa                        6.15
    Desert Storm            12.06
    Fahrenheit 303            8.26        (yes, it's '303' in this)
    Steel Cube Idolatry    6.24
    High Rise                    8.23
    Chime Live                5.56
    Midnight Live            6.53
    Belfast*                    8.06

    The * after Belfast on the back says to see the inner sleeve, you open the
inner sleeve and read '* extract from 'O Euchari' - performed by Emily Van
Evera.  Used Courtesy of Hyperion Records'.  Also in the insert, you get
another insert that has a thing that folds out and has a ton of Japanese
writing in it, so I couldn't begin to tell you what all this thing says
unfortunetly. :/  Haven't even listened to three of the songs yet so I
can't tell you what it's like but the songs I've never seen, I've
definitely never heard. Seeya.


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From: [e-mail] (Dan LeBoeuf)
Subject: (orbital) err...
Date: 15 Jun 1998 14:58:34 -0500


err... "you are techno, don't do rock"
"saw him live in 95"

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From: [e-mail] (timmins)
Subject: (orbital) Sorry...
Date: 15 Jun 1998 15:19:14 -0500


I think there is something wrong with my to field.


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Subject: Re: (orbital) Orbital S/T
Date: 15 Jun 1998 14:15:53 -0700


**
Welp, /finally/ got this cd I was wondering about (you remember, the Japanese one for like $40).  It's /not/ the same as the Green album. It does a few of the same songs (cover looks the same as well).  Just incase
you were thinking of buying this album, here is the playlist:
**

Sorry to ruin your excitement, but that's just the UK track listing..

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From: [e-mail] (Ben Knowles)
Subject: (orbital) green
Date: 15 Jun 1998 17:33:50 +0100


>        Welp, /finally/ got this cd I was wondering about (you remember, the
>Japanese one for like $40).  It's /not/ the same as the Green album.

actually, it _is_ the same as the green album. it's the original version,
same as the one originally put out in the UK. check the discography. the US
version you've probably heard was bastardized from it. high rise is great
stuff, they should have left it on there.

by the way, everyone keeps recommending FSOL's ISDN and i personally think
it's horrible. lifeforms and cascade have a much better flow, if a bit more
ambient. haven't heard their earlier/later stuff, with the exception of the
papua new guinea ep, which is quite good, and the "my kingdom" single,
which is okay. oh, and stay away from "ramblings of a madman and far-out
son of lung," it's just bad.

can anyone tell me a little about the propellerheads' style? i got an mp3
of "take california" and it's not too bad. please don't tell me they're
like the chemical bros.

take it easy,
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From: "Dr. Killpatient" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) FSOL,Moby,Underworld
Date: 15 Jun 1998 17:50:07 -0700


> by the way, everyone keeps recommending FSOL's ISDN and i personally think
> it's horrible. lifeforms and cascade have a much better flow, if a bit more
> ambient. haven't heard their earlier/later stuff, with the exception of the
> papua new guinea ep, which is quite good, and the "my kingdom" single,
> which is okay. oh, and stay away from "ramblings of a madman and far-out
> son of lung," it's just bad.
>

I would have to completely disagree with this, I think ISDN and
Far Out Son Of Lung are the best FSOL stuff! I realize it's very
different than the other releases, with a tendency to lean more
toward acid-jazz than ambient- but it comes out as a very unique
listening experience. I especially like the re-curring use of
the fretless bass, giving it that laid back jazzy feel.
I'd also like to point out that I generally don't like jazz!
As for whoever said Moby sucks- that is incredibly narrow minded
in my opinion...he does so many different styles across his
different releases, you can't possibly hear just one or two
albums and decide he sucks...many Moby fans don't like ALL of
his CDs since they are so different- however I do.
I'd say forget early underground though, that's my least favorite-
I'd buy the self titled first album or the Move EP if you like
the less vocal techno stuff- or the double EIW DJ mix CD...
As for vocals in techno, I think they are great and sometimes
prefer them. You couldn't take the vocals out of Leftfield and
still have it work as well for me. Such is Underworld, I think
you should get Dubnobasswithmyheadman, if you don't like vocals
mixed in with your techno- I would bet you will change your
mind after hearing this one!!! Also, Juanita from Second Toughest
In the Infants has the best lyrics/vocals of any techno song
I've heard, so haunting and poetic...like a sophisticated
Jim Morrison. My 2 cents for now...
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From: "Dr. Killpatient" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) Question
Date: 15 Jun 1998 18:03:23 -0700


Dan LeBoeuf wrote:
>
> I have to admit.. having 13 cd's and a couple lp/ep of his... I used to love to listen to him
> prior to Animal rights... I'll admit, he can play some rock and roll, but he used to be
> electronic, and now... uh, punk? I saw live in 95 and it was funny, they lost electricity and
> brought out a bass and guitar and played Led Zepplin, Nirvana and a couple others.
> I was impressed with his crossing over talent, but "you are rock, don't do rock".
> bond theme is cool for about 4 plays and then it reminds me of crap.
> I can honestly say I lost a favorite artist to rock/punk.
> I hope he likes it where he is, I hope so... he is getting paychecks for it.
>

Just because he put out ONE CD with rock/punk style songs, why
in the hell does everyone think that he has given up on techno
or something? I've seen Moby live 3 times last year, and he harldy
plays any rock songs during his set. When he does it's usually
one of his covers (Zepplin, Hendrix, Black Sabbath, Lynard Skynard)
which I find entertaining after ten dance songs in a row.
Anyway, his new album is supposed to be all techno!!!
I'd also like to point out that almost simultainiously to putting
out Animal Rights, he also put out two very ambient albums...
Little Idiot and (as Voodoo Child) the End Of Everything.
Both excellent, and as far away from rock as it gets.
I think it's very narrow minded to brand him as rock or say that
he used to be good but he sucks now because he released one fucking
album of rock material. If you had to base your whole opinion
of Orbital off of Satan with Kirk Hammett (as I'm sure many, many
Spawn soundtrack owners who are NOT into Orbital may do)
You may think they were some kind of industrial band!!!
Add on top of that the people who may have only heard that plus
"Quality Seconds" thanks to the Jackie Chan movie....
Imagine what they must think of Orbital...it's not like they play
them on the radio much at all anywhere in the USA.
Now I'm up to 4 cents- sorry
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From: Jon Green <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) green
Date: 16 Jun 1998 03:01:29 +0100


At 17:33 15/6/98 +0100, Ben Knowles wrote:
>
>by the way, everyone keeps recommending FSOL's ISDN and i personally think
>it's horrible. lifeforms and cascade have a much better flow,

I wouldn't say ISDN is horrible, but Cascade does flow beautifully, much
better than any of their other stuff. Having said that, Accelerator is
excellent. And their Inner City remix is too. And.. and... and...

>can anyone tell me a little about the propellerheads' style? i got an mp3
>of "take california" and it's not too bad. please don't tell me they're
>like the chemical bros.

I'd say they're everything like the Chems. But the video for Bang On is
great - loads of people trying to do tricks on their skateboards and
falling off and hurting themselves.

cheers,
Jon

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From: "Daniel Kasaj" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) Orbitals playlist ?
Date: 15 Jun 1998 22:25:59 +0200


>> Hmm if you're thinking on the sample on fsol's dead cities, isn't it more
>> like "had" instead of "have"?
>
>    I think it's 'had'. It Lawrence Fishburne, from the movie Deep Cover.
>Somebody rent it and figure this out.. :)

Well ok, you guys are right but I grew fond of "have" so i ain't changing
the tag, i'm just declaring that it's *NOT* from Dead Cities :-)

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From: "Price, Steve A" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) Extra track on Green Cd UK / Canada
Date: 16 Jun 1998 17:31:44 +0100


Brian wrote>
>    Woops, just found out there is an extra song not listed as the 11th track
>that is 51 seconds long. Just a track that sounds like the put on a record
>and it plays the same few notes on a piano over and over. Just filling you
>in with the correct info.

Its called "I Think Its Disgusting" - check
Http://www.hyperreal.org/loopz/green.html


Thanx

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From: "Price, Steve A" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) Fahrenheit on Green Album
Date: 16 Jun 1998 17:34:35 +0100


>Fahrenheit 303            8.26        (yes, it's '303' in this)

haha...yes...good old FFRR and their typos. It has always been 303 but
they never did the American inlay corrected :)
Thanks for the Japanese info btw


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From: Frederic Fournier <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) Fahrenheit on Green Album
Date: 16 Jun 1998 12:43:25 -0400 (EDT)


On Tue, 16 Jun 1998, Price, Steve A wrote:

>
> >Fahrenheit 303            8.26        (yes, it's '303' in this)
>
> haha...yes...good old FFRR and their typos. It has always been 303 but
> they never did the American inlay corrected :)

...Being curious, what is it on the american version?



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From: "Daniel Kasaj" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) green
Date: 16 Jun 1998 18:47:15 +0200


Ben Knowles wrote:
+AD4-by the way, everyone keeps recommending FSOL's ISDN and i
+AD4-personally think it's horrible.

IMO, ISDN is their best work. ISDN comes into a tight group of
three albums I can listen every day for 2 years and still love it.
The other two are (guess+ACE-:)) Spooky's Gargantuan and Roni Size's
New Forms.

+AD4-can anyone tell me a little about the propellerheads' style? i got an mp3
+AD4-of +ACI-take california+ACI- and it's not too bad. please don't tell me they're
+AD4-like the chemical bros.

I got half of the decksanddrumsandrockandroll album in mp3 on
my acc. if u want 'em just tell me where u want me to upload them.
I'm looking for the rest of the album as we speak and damn is it
hard to find.

As the summer gets near I find myself enjoying more upbeat
music with lots of bass pumpin. I plan on spinning Chems (what's
wrong with Chems ?+ACE-) more than ever, as well as Fluke, The Prodigy
and Crystal Method. And when the time comes, I'll probabbly even
harass the whole beach with  Banco de Gaia singing along to Kincajou
(boy are people gonna look at me funny)

Daniel
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From: Morey Gamble <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) Question
Date: 16 Jun 1998 15:06:52 -0400




[e-mail] wrote:

> I have to admit.. having 13 cd's and a couple lp/ep of his... I used to love to listen to him
> prior to Animal rights... I'll admit, he can play some rock and roll, but he used to be
> electronic, and now... uh, punk? I saw live in 95 and it was funny, they lost electricity and
> brought out a bass and guitar and played Led Zepplin, Nirvana and a couple others.
> I was impressed with his crossing over talent, but "you are rock, don't do rock".
> bond theme is cool for about 4 plays and then it reminds me of crap.
> I can honestly say I lost a favorite artist to rock/punk.
> I hope he likes it where he is, I hope so... he is getting paychecks for it.

    Looks like he's actually back doing dance again. I saw him last fall, and he said something
about a new dance album. He's released 2 electronic albums since 'Animal Rights', actually, the
"I Like to Score" compilation and Voodoo Child - "The End of Everything". I'm pretty sure he's
working on a new dance album that's supposed to be a lot like everything is wrong. (which i guess
means not entirely dance, but you get the picture). I think he's just sort of making whatever
music he feels like writing at the moment, which is really the only way to go about it. You have
to write the music you feel, I guess.

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From: "Price, Steve A" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (orbital) Fahrenheit on Green Album
Date: 16 Jun 1998 20:24:30 +0100


Jesus - what was i on about. Sorry i got slightly mixed up with summit.I
feel all new again.

So which is Phil and which one is Paul ;)


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>To:     Price, Steve A
>Subject:     Re: (orbital) Fahrenheit on Green Album
>
>But they are both different....differnt mixes...I always thought it was
>supposed to be that way....
>
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From: Morey Gamble <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) green
Date: 16 Jun 1998 15:29:35 -0400




[e-mail] wrote:

> >can anyone tell me a little about the propellerheads' style? i got an mp3
> >of "take california" and it's not too bad. please don't tell me they're
> >like the chemical bros.
>
> I'd say they're everything like the Chems. But the video for Bang On is
> great - loads of people trying to do tricks on their skateboards and
> falling off and hurting themselves.

    Well, I definitely wouldn't say they're exactly like the Chemical Brothers.
Stylistically, they're pretty similar, but their sound seems to lean more
toward the use of live instruments (which they both play) and a much bouncier,
less rough feel than most of the chemical's stuff. As usual, my recommendation
is to check them out for yourself.

Similar, but not the same...
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From: Morey Gamble <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) Fahrenheit on Green Album
Date: 16 Jun 1998 15:33:47 -0400




[e-mail] wrote:

> On Tue, 16 Jun 1998, Price, Steve A wrote:
>
> >
> > >Fahrenheit 303                       8.26            (yes, it's '303' in this)
> >
> > haha...yes...good old FFRR and their typos. It has always been 303 but
> > they never did the American inlay corrected :)
>
> ...Being curious, what is it on the american version?

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From: "Benjamin Szabo" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) Plastikman
Date: 16 Jun 1998 14:54:10 PDT


Does anyone have the new Plastikman album? I want to know if the tracks
on the cd are mixed together.

Thanks.

Szabo

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From: Aaron Brown <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) Re: Propellerheads
Date: 17 Jun 1998 12:21:26 +0100


Morey Gamble wrote:
> > >like the chemical bros.
> Stylistically, they're pretty similar,
 and a much bouncier,
> less rough feel than most of the chemical's stuff.
>
> Similar, but not the same...
>     -Morey

Yeah, that's pretty spot on, but the album was a bit of a let down -
probably expecting too much again.  Thought their treatment of 'On her
majesty's secret service' [bond theme] was spot on.  A few tracks on the
album are really good (take california, bang on etc), but bits of it are
'big beat by numbers.'
Shame, really...
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From: Jon Green <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) Plastikman
Date: 17 Jun 1998 19:07:44 +0100


At 14:54 16/6/98 PDT, Benjamin Szabo wrote:
>
>Does anyone have the new Plastikman album? I want to know if the tracks
>on the cd are mixed together.

They aren't mixed properly, ie the beats don't line up, but they do have
linking sections, rather like the first two Plastikman albums. Certainly
nothing like Planet../Lush/Impact from Orbital's brown album. It's a very
good album, if not quite as good a s his recent 'Concept one' CD.

cheers,
JOn

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From: "Henry Cooke" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) Re: Propellerheads
Date: 17 Jun 1998 21:30:56 +0100



<snip>

>Yeah, that's pretty spot on, but the album was a bit of a let down -
>probably expecting too much again.  Thought their treatment of 'On her
>majesty's secret service' [bond theme] was spot on.  A few tracks on the
>album are really good (take california, bang on etc), but bits of it are
>'big beat by numbers.'
>Shame, really...
>ez
>
I agree. I bought the album today on reccomendation from a friend, and I
think it's a really mixed bag. There's some great stuff on there (is all
Dave Arnold's stuff as good as OHMSS?), but some seems really samey.
Incidentally, I bought Entroducing...DJ Shadow in the same sale (two for
twenty quid in our price, there's some classic CDs in there: Timeless, both
Portishead albums, Eels, Skunk Anansie, etc etc.. any UK peeps check it
out...), and I *still* love that album.

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From: "Henry Cooke" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) apology
Date: 17 Jun 1998 22:04:05 +0100


Sorry folks, it seems I've posted more or less the same article twice (I
thought Outlook had cocked up. It hadn't). That'll teach me to distrust
Microsoft products :)

Henry



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From: "Henry Cooke" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) Re: Propellerheads
Date: 17 Jun 1998 22:01:22 +0100



-----Original Message-----


<snip>

>Yeah, that's pretty spot on, but the album was a bit of a let down -
>probably expecting too much again.  Thought their treatment of 'On her
>majesty's secret service' [bond theme] was spot on.  A few tracks on the
>album are really good (take california, bang on etc), but bits of it are
>'big beat by numbers.'
>Shame, really...
>ez
>

I agree. I bought the album today on a reccomendation from a friend, and I
think some of it is great, especially History Repeating and OHMSS (is all
Dave Arnold's stuff this good?), but a lot of it seems to be really samey.
Incidentally, I bought Entroducing..DJ Shadow after hearing it around quite
a few times over the years in the same sale and I *still* love it. The sale
is on in Our Price, by the way, and has some classics in it: Timeless, both
Portishead albums, Eels, Skunk Anansie... much recommended for UK peeps.

Henry



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From: "Mehul Parekh" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) newsgroup???
Date: 17 Jun 1998 15:22:18 PDT


Do we have a Orbital newsgroup?  I heard about it a couple of weeks ago
here, but nothing since.  If so, what's the address?
Thanks.

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From: Ez <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) Propellerheads & David Arnold
Date: 18 Jun 1998 11:14:29 +0100


Henry Cooke wrote:
 (is all
> Dave Arnold's stuff as good as OHMSS?),
> Incidentally, I bought Entroducing...DJ Shadow in the same sale (two for
> twenty quid in our price, there's some classic CDs in there: Timeless, both
> Portishead albums, Eels, Skunk Anansie, etc etc.. any UK peeps check it
> out...), and I *still* love that album.

David Arnold's stuff is normally really good if you're looking for
straight film music.  You might want to check out the 'shaken and
stirred' bond tribute album which includes some top arrangements of old
bond tunes.  Worth buying just for McAlmont out-cheesing Shirley Bassey!
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From: Ken Pittman <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) Question, Astral Projection
Date: 18 Jun 1998 10:38:03 -0400 (EDT)


Anyone of the list memebers heard of these guys? They are a fantastic
ambient techno group from Israel. I am trying very hard to find any of their
LP's, but every place I order from says they are unavailable. Anyone know
where to get them?


Thanks,

Pits


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From: Daniel Hughes <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) Question, Astral Projection
Date: 18 Jun 1998 13:35:51 -0400


>Anyone of the list memebers heard of these guys? They are a fantastic
>ambient techno group from Israel. I am trying very hard to find any of their
>LP's, but every place I order from says they are unavailable. Anyone know
>where to get them?

I think you would classify their music as 'Goa Trance'
They have a great track on Destination to Goa 4, a compilation album.
No idea of where to get any of their albums, but if you like their stuff
you might like other goa trance compilations. They are not hard to find at
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From: <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) icons.
Date: 18 Jun 1998 14:13:55 EDT


hey..... does anyone have an .ico of the orbital spinning logo?    i want to
put that on my start bar and get rid of this damned windoze95 logo.  if any1
wants, i ken show you how.

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From: "Agust 'Nemesis1' Arni Jonsson" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) $10.00 off Music from CDnow
Date: 18 Jun 1998 19:57:58 +0100


blah blah blah. use if you want :)

> We'd like to offer you a $10.00 Coupon towards your next CDnow purchase
> of $20 or more (applicable taxes, shipping & handling not included). To
> redeem it, simply go to: http://cdnow.com/from=red:X:cdn:a26 , and start
> shopping.  When your selections total $20 or more, your coupon will
> automatically appear in your shopping cart!  But you'll have to hurry,
> because this offer expires on July 8 at 10:00 am EST. Detailed
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Subject: (orbital) astral projection
Date: 18 Jun 1998 18:45:00 EDT


Hello there.... as I recall, someone not too long ago was interested in Astral
Projection...?  I came across this:
 http://www.france-techno.fr/~ytbl/ap_toc.htm

enjoy

-Aaron
[e-mail]
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From: "Price, Steve A" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) Whats wrong with the Chems ?
Date: 19 Jun 1998 09:23:59 +0100


Leq wrote>
>I plan on spinning Chems (what's
>wrong with Chems ?+ACE-)

Im my eyes...very very very overrated. Heard it all before.
Also...every new track i hear doesnt make me think they are unique in
any way or form.

Try playing a new Orbital track...and thats why THEY stand out.

Just my 5 quid 32 and half pence.


Thanx

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From: "Price, Steve A" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) Orbital Newsgroup
Date: 19 Jun 1998 09:27:08 +0100


>Do we have a Orbital newsgroup?  I heard about it a couple of weeks ago
>here, but nothing since.  If so, what's the address?

Its gone through the ALT.CONFIG routine....and the create command has
been sent (although im not too sure if it was syntaxed correctly) . I
got a mail with the create command and everything i put which was a good
sign. But...its been a week i think and noting as yet.
Anyone know whats what on this...and time scales.
I know it depends on the news admin people whether they will accept the
damn newsgroup.....help etc ?


Thanx

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Subject: (orbital) Changing the Start Button Icon / Text
Date: 19 Jun 1998 10:32:04 EDT


If this messes up your computer... don't blame me.....

There are 2 major things you can change on the start button, the icon and the
text. You will need 2 programs to do this, I use and recommend Microangelo
(*www.impactsoft.com*) for the icon work and UltraEdit-32
(*http://www.idmcomp.com/index.html*) for the hex-editing. Both of these
programs can also be downloaded from Windows95.com. I will first tell you how
to change the icon, which is the easiest.


_Changing the Start Button Icon_

1. Find an icon that you want to use or make your own.

2. Make the icon in all the following formats 10x10 16 colors, 12x12 16
colors, 14x14 16 colors, 16x16 16 colors, 22x22 16 colors, and 32x32 2 colors.
This is very easy to do using Microangelo Studio. Just copy the icon and paste
it onto the other formats and expand or contract the size.

3. Save the Icon and keep Studio open.

4. Save a copy of User.exe (c:/windows/system/user.exe) into a backup
directory and another into a temporary directory. This is very important. You
should always back up everything that you intend to change, just in case!!!

5. Open the User.exe that is in you temporary directory through Microangelo
Librarian.

6. Replace each format of the first icon (the windows flag) with the
appropriate one of you new icon.

7. Save the User.exe in the temporary, this is the also important because the
user.exe is in use by windows so you can not save it directly into the
windows/system directory.

8. Shut down your computer into DOS mode.

9. In DOS copy the user.exe that is in your temporary directory to
c:/windows/system.  You will be prompted to confirm this overwrite say yes and
restart windows. That's it for the icon change!



_Changing the Start Button Text_

This is the 2nd step to getting a slick start button. For this part you'll be
actually hex-editing windows 95. You will be manipulating the displayed
characters for the actual Start button as well as the start menu program tap
on the taskbar properties. I use UltraEdit-32 to do the hexing.

1. First make a back up copy and a copy in a temporary directory of your
explorer.exe which can be found in c:/windows.

2. Open the explorer.exe that is in a temp directory through UltraEdit.  You
will see on the left a bunch of numbers (which is the actual hex) and on the
right a bunch of words that appear to be separated by .'s (periods) this is
the character equivalent of the hex code.

_Some important information to understand:_

First, the .'s (periods) are not .'s (periods). They are 00 hex code. DON'T
change any of the .'s (periods) Do not change the hex, change the characters
by highlighting a single character and changing it, one by one on the right
side. Do not grab a whole word on the right side and put .'s (periods) in the
place of the 00 hex code. And finally you can use ascii text (alternative) key
codes to achieve a cool look.

3. Scroll down the window and look for what appears as S.t.a.r.t. on the right
hand side. (I would give the actual location but it varies on what version of
win95 you have). Once you have located the first S.t.a.r.t. proceed to step 4.

4. Highlight the S only. Do not include the . (period) before or after the S.
Type the character you wish to replace it with. Do this for each character.
You can use a word smaller then 5 characters by inserting blanks (a push of
the space bar).

5. Repeat scrolling and replace the S.t.a.r.t. with your chosen word every
time it appears. That's it your done.


                               _dreamking_


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From: [e-mail] (trent 242 x)
Subject: (orbital) Massive Attack
Date: 19 Jun 1998 13:13:42 -0400


does anyone have to new massive attack album? how is it? i'm considering
buying it, i just got paid.

oH YEAH    , the Orb's ToxYgene single has a cool lil' fluffy clouds
mix.

Waylon



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From: Morey Gamble <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) Massive Attack
Date: 19 Jun 1998 13:56:47 -0400




[e-mail] wrote:

> does anyone have to new massive attack album? how is it? i'm considering
> buying it, i just got paid.

    It's pretty good. I honestly haven't listened to it all that much since I
got it. Not because it isn't good, I just haven't been particularly in the mood
for that style of music. I will say what I always say. Go to blockbuster and
listen to it..

> oH YEAH , the Orb's ToxYgene single has a cool lil' fluffy clouds
> mix.

    The 'Pal Joey mix', also known as (i discover after much anguish and
effort) the cumulonimbus mix.

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From: "Daniel Kasaj" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) need artist name
Date: 19 Jun 1998 20:38:15 +0200


has anyone ever heard of a track called "I thought it was you"
which has a kind of daft punk-ish feel to it, except I think
the artist comes from the UK ? I need that artist name so
I could run it through the search engines.

thanks,

Daniel
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From: "Daniel Kasaj" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) Whats wrong with the Chems ?  recommendations
Date: 19 Jun 1998 20:36:26 +0200


Loopz wrote:
+AD4-Im my eyes...very very very overrated. Heard it all before.
+AD4-Also...every new track i hear doesnt make me think they are unique in
+AD4-any way or form.
+AD4-
+AD4-Try playing a new Orbital track...and thats why THEY stand out.

Of course they do but I am never ever comparing anything to
Orbital... Orbital is high up there. Everything else is just groovy
stuff. There's nothing wrong with blasting Life is Sweet or
Elekrobank remixes when you feel like it. I felt like that couple
of days ago... Now I feel like blasting Everybody needs a 303 by
Fatboy Slim, and History Repeating Itself by the Propellerheads.
And +ACI-Le Patron Est Devenou Fou+ACI- by Super Discount.

As for the musical recommendations from my CD player,
here comes the list :
- Propellerheads - DecksAndDrumsAndRockAndRoll
- Fatboy Slim - Better Living Through Chemistry
- Lost in Space soundtrack
- Larry Heard - Dance 2000
- Plastikman - Consumed.

I still need to listen to Mezzanine, the Props aren't letting it
in the player :)

I also think I heard the name Terry Francis on radio,
a project called +ACI-Argentina+ACI- -- not quite sure about those
names -- but that is top stuff. I wish I knew real names
and where I can get the whole album.

love u all,

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From: Jon Green <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) Changing the Start Button Icon / Text
Date: 19 Jun 1998 20:09:08 +0100


At 10:32 19/6/98 EDT, Bey0ndThis wrote:
>
>If this messes up your computer... don't blame me.....
>
>_Changing the Start Button Text_
>
>This is the 2nd step to getting a slick start button. For this part you'll be
>actually hex-editing windows 95. You will be manipulating the displayed
>characters for the actual Start button as well as the start menu program tap
>on the taskbar properties. I use UltraEdit-32 to do the hexing.

Does anybody know if this can be done by messing about with the registry?
I'd be a bit happier using regedit than getting ultra-edit and using it...

And some Orbital stuff (shock horror!): the latest issue of Jockey Slut
claims FFRR have said the new album will be 'September at the earliest' (so
let's say Christmas then...). But I expect Mr Price knows better... Mind
you they also reckon Leftfield will have a single out "before the summer".
Presumably next summer as it's summer now as far as I'm concerned!

cheers,
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From: Elliot Bancroft <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) need artist name
Date: 19 Jun 1998 12:18:14 -0700 (PDT)







---Daniel Kasaj <[e-mail]> wrote:
>
>
> has anyone ever heard of a track called "I thought it was you"
> which has a kind of daft punk-ish feel to it, except I think
> the artist comes from the UK ? I need that artist name so
> I could run it through the search engines.
>

Is it not Future Sound of London - I think they have a track like
that. What type of music is it?

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From: "Henry Cooke" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) Massive Attack
Date: 19 Jun 1998 19:31:02 +0100



-----Original Message-----


>
>does anyone have to new massive attack album? how is it? i'm considering
>buying it, i just got paid.


I really like it...especially the songs with Liz Taylor's singing and the
heavier tracks. It's very different to their other two albums though, IMHO.
Give it a listen before you buy.

>oH YEAH , the Orb's ToxYgene single has a cool lil' fluffy clouds
>mix.

Musta bought the wrong one then, dammit :) Mine just has endless remixes of
Toxygene, which is a cool song, but you can only hear it so many times...

>Waylon
>

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From: "Daniel Kasaj" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) need artist name
Date: 20 Jun 1998 00:08:35 +0200


>Is it not Future Sound of London - I think they have a track like
>that. What type of music is it?


No, it's not even remotely similar to FSOL style. I said it was
daft punk-ish, ergo very dancey, very repetative and with all those
mech-voice stuff.... anyways, I got my answer from mr. Jonsson,
the artist name is Sexosonic. Funny, i thought i heard the word
Sexysonic spoken on the radio, but when i searched for it
nothing came up. :)

off to find the mp3

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From: "Daniel Kasaj" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) need artist name
Date: 20 Jun 1998 00:12:06 +0200


actually, the correct name is
"Sex o sonique"

:)

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From: "Aimee Couture" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) bye for the weekend
Date: 19 Jun 1998 11:22:58 -0700


hey guys..
sorry to those of you that are getting this on the list and privately.. But I owe mail to those of you who are getting this privately too.. I'll mail you guys Monday.

Anyway, I'm going down to the michigan for the weekend.. see you guys on monday.. felt like saying something to the list.. Oh yeah.. I'm looking for sally's photographic memory.. but I don't think it'll still be there, and if it is I don't think I have money for it.. rave next weekend..

Met Elliot (Halcyon from #orbital on undernet) yesterday.. we went to this used cd store.. they have in sides posters, the canadian green (same as uk).. and... sniv ON TAPE!! I think I'm gonna go buy it for the sake of having it... it's only like six bucks.. cool stuff..
They had some underworld cd for like $28.. rare stuff.. can't remember the title... but I'm sure one of you will know what I'm talking about..
bought a front 242 cd cuz it was playing in the store and sounded really cool.. plus people on the list had been talking about them... nice stuff, I like.. :)

See you guys in a few days, keep smiling :)

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From: Tim <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) Old Orbital Remix Found... Discog?
Date: 20 Jun 1998 18:57:08 +0100


Hello All,
       =20
        I haven't posted for a while. Ah well...
       =20
  I was shopping the other day, and I picked up Deeper, Omen and Open
mind on vinyl for =A32 , even though Deeper sounds as if a deejay who
really liked scratching owned it before me. Anyway, for that price you
can't really go wrong.=20

        I also found a record by Time Unlimited "Use Me" which has a
remix on it by Orbital called "Men of Wadodem". The record is pretty old
and sounds early 90's , and it didn't have the original sleeve. The
track listing is=20

A. 1 Use Me
   2 Ready Made
   3 Poetry in motion
AA.1 Men of Wadodem
   2 Men of Wododem (Orbital)

Is this an Orbital Remix? it sounds very similar to orbitals style
around the time of green, and I can't find it in the Discog. I haven't
got a clue what label it's on (No sleeve) and apart from the track
listing  and the name of the artist the only writing on the disk is=20
"sam 780" and a logo which looks like ZTT. It was only =A31.50 so I
haven't been ripped off if it's not by Orbital. Any suggestions before I
send it off it the Discog?

Cheers..
=20
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From: Lazlo Nibble <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) Old Orbital Remix Found... Discog?
Date: 20 Jun 1998 12:04:44 -0600


On Sat, Jun 20, 1998 at 06:57:08PM +0100, Tim wrote:

>         I also found a record by Time Unlimited "Use Me" which has a
> remix on it by Orbital called "Men of Wadodem".

This is an Orb remix, not an Orbital remix.  (It also turns up on The Orb's
"Auntie Aubrey's" remix compilation.)  I'd be happy to take it off your
hands if you don't want it. :-)

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Subject: Re: (orbital) Orbital Newsgroup
Date: 20 Jun 1998 12:10:41 -0600


On Fri, Jun 19, 1998 at 09:27:08AM +0100, Price, Steve A wrote:

> Its gone through the ALT.CONFIG routine....and the create command has
> been sent (although im not too sure if it was syntaxed correctly) . I
> got a mail with the create command and everything i put which was a good
> sign. But...its been a week i think and noting as yet.
> Anyone know whats what on this...and time scales.
> I know it depends on the news admin people whether they will accept the
> damn newsgroup.....help etc ?

Alt newsgroups usually get lousy propagation . . .

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From: Frederic Fournier <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) Massive Attack
Date: 20 Jun 1998 20:40:30 -0400 (EDT)


On Fri, 19 Jun 1998, trent 242 x wrote:

> does anyone have to new massive attack album? how is it? i'm considering
> buying it, i just got paid.

Well I don't know if you're already a fan of Massive Attack, but if
you're not... I was not, and bought it. Trip hop is not my usual thing at
all, and at first I was a bit displeased, though I had a general feeling
that this was good trip hop. After three weeks (or four?) now, I've
really started to get into it and really I like it after all.

I think it's worth the try, this is good stuff even if you're not into
their style.



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From: Kel <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) Fluke and stuff?
Date: 20 Jun 1998 23:45:57 -0400


Hey everyone, I just found the xmission list is still around thanx to
Aimee. I'm Kel, and you can run into me on occasion on #orbital as
Chimester. Now that that's out of the way...

I've been looking for some other good intelligent techno artists since I
ran into orbital, I was wondering if anyone can tell me what they think
of Fluke, Sabres of paradise, the Shamen, and the Grid. They are names
that I came along in my searching. And I think autechre kicks ass, does
anyone know if the sounds of machines our parents used ep (by gescom) is
still in print? I am tripping to London next week and would love to see
what I could find if I got time to go shopping...

Oh, and what are the albums in Warp's artificial intelligence series?
just curious. I'll leave you guys alone now,
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From: Doug Radcliffe <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) Fluke and stuff?
Date: 21 Jun 1998 01:22:49 -0400 (EDT)




>
> Oh, and what are the albums in Warp's artificial intelligence series?
> just curious. I'll leave you guys alone now,
>                         KEL <[e-mail]>
>

Hey KEL

Both Artificial Intelligence CDs are very good in my opinion, and I am
very picky =)  I don't like much stuff other than Orbital and a few other
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From: Jason Wallace <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) Fluke and stuff?
Date: 21 Jun 1998 01:08:45 -0500


I picked up Fluke's "Risotto" a few months ago, and never looked back!
Imagine Orbital with a bit of angst, a smaller amount of melody, and
lots of percussion.  The only thing that bugs me is that it has a little
bit of a commercial sound to it.  It sounds like the record company
(Astralwerks) did a little too much "tweaking" with it..  Other than
that minor gripe, it's well worth it!

I don't know much about the other groups..

Kel wrote:
>
> Hey everyone, I just found the xmission list is still around thanx to
> Aimee. I'm Kel, and you can run into me on occasion on #orbital as
> Chimester. Now that that's out of the way...
>
> I've been looking for some other good intelligent techno artists since I
> ran into orbital, I was wondering if anyone can tell me what they think
> of Fluke, Sabres of paradise, the Shamen, and the Grid. They are names
> that I came along in my searching. And I think autechre kicks ass, does
> anyone know if the sounds of machines our parents used ep (by gescom) is
> still in print? I am tripping to London next week and would love to see
> what I could find if I got time to go shopping...
>
> Oh, and what are the albums in Warp's artificial intelligence series?
> just curious. I'll leave you guys alone now,

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From: "morpheus" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) Carl Cox
Date: 21 Jun 1998 01:18:17 -0700


Hey,

Can anyone tell me what Carl Cox is like, at spinning that is.  I'm going to
be seeing him spin at a rave that he's headlining and I wanted to know what
to expect.  I've only heard Phoebus Apollo by him.  Is all of his stuff
similar.  I hope not, because although I love that song, that style is very
hype for a rave.  Thanx
Oh by the way, one of my friends is in a picture that is on the internet.
It's from the rave that we were at lastr weekend.  Very amazing atmosphere.
I'm now wondering where the scene has been all my life.  To anyone who
hasn't gone to a rave before, GO NOW!!  To much fun to describe.
that's all for now.
peace
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From: Elliot Bancroft <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) Fluke and stuff?
Date: 21 Jun 1998 05:29:53 -0700 (PDT)





> of Fluke, Sabres of paradise, the Shamen, and the Grid. They are names


Fluke are wicked - risotto is a top album. Atom Bomb a top song.
'nough said.

The Shamen have a weird type of music lots of lyrics get their album
Axis Mutatis - two cds which are quite good.

The Grid are brilliant. Slightly dated but I still listen to them.
Music for Dancing and Evolver are two albums they've done

Dont know bout the rest.

Happy hunting



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From: "Agust 'Nemesis1' Arni Jonsson" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) Fluke and stuff?
Date: 21 Jun 1998 13:13:02 +0100


At 05:29 21.6.1998 -0700, you wrote:
>> of Fluke, Sabres of paradise, the Shamen, and the Grid. They are names
>The Shamen have a weird type of music lots of lyrics get their album
>Axis Mutatis - two cds which are quite good.
IMO the bonus cd is much better, but that's mostly I prefer ambient stuff :)
the Hemton Manor cd is also quite good, though not as meaty as Axis
Mutatis, and is instrumental only, while Axis Mutatis is a mixed bag of
instrumental and songs with lyrics, some quite good ones :) Might also want
to check out Boss Drum, though it is a bit more ravish, and the Shamen
Collection cd is a good cd with most of their popular tracks up to Hempton
Manor. Havn't checked out the Remix Collection though.

>The Grid are brilliant. Slightly dated but I still listen to them.
>Music for Dancing and Evolver are two albums they've done
havn't herd Music for Dancing, I liked Evolver back when it was released,
but 456 rules too, especially check out the Crystal Clear single, cool
track nice mixes, has 2 awesome Orb mixes :) Their Rollercoaster single
also has a totally awesome ambient mix by Global Communication which can
also be found on GC's Remotion cd. if you want good ambient, then pick up
either cd, they are well worth shopping just for that track alone :)



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From: Jon Green <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) Carl Cox
Date: 21 Jun 1998 14:10:27 +0100


At 01:18 21/6/98 -0700, morpheus wrote:
>
>Hey,
>
>Can anyone tell me what Carl Cox is like, at spinning that is.

Excellent, by all accounts. I've only seen him once, and that was at a
small club in the middle of London (Velvet Underground if anyone cares),
and it was a couple of years back, so I wouldn't expect him to be playing
the same stuff now, but a good DJ like him doesn't lose their touch.

>I'm going to
>be seeing him spin at a rave that he's headlining and I wanted to know what
>to expect.  I've only heard Phoebus Apollo by him.  Is all of his stuff
>similar.  I hope not, because although I love that song, that style is very
>hype for a rave.  Thanx

I've never been very impressed by his music, including Phoebus Apollo, but
he tends to play harder than he records, as do most DJs, it seems.

cheers,
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From: Jon Green <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) Fluke and stuff?
Date: 21 Jun 1998 14:06:21 +0100


At 23:45 20/6/98 -0400, Kel wrote:
>
> I was wondering if anyone can tell me what they think
>of Fluke,

I've always thought Fluke sound too much like other bands (esp.
Underworld), but they're never bad.

>Sabres of paradise,

Andrew Weatherall is God! The Sabres' "Smokebelch" original and David
Holmes remix are both in my top three tracks of all time, that's how good
that track is. Their output can be a bit, er, wayward and I know a lot of
people who have trouble getting into Weatherall's music. Be careful with
him is what I'd say...

>the Shamen,

I liked their "En-tact" era stuff, and some of the "Boss Drum" stuff is
great, but I tired of all their psychedelic/eschatology claptrap after
that. The music's not bad though, but I'd prefer it if they shut Mr C up.

>and the Grid.

I was disappointed by "Evolver", but that's because I was going right off
anything remotely commercial at the time.

>Oh, and what are the albums in Warp's artificial intelligence series?
>just curious. I'll leave you guys alone now,

As well as the two compilations there were albums by the artists on them.
FUSE' "Dimension Intrusion" is one, and I think Autechre's first was too.
And Polygon Window's "Surfing on Sine Waves". B12 and The Black Dog's first
were probably too. Of the three I've got, FUSE is the best, then Polygon
Window then Ae. I much prefer Autechre's more recent harsher output. Less
than 24 hours until the new album!!!

At 01:08 21/6/98 -0500, Jason Wallace wrote:
>
>I picked up Fluke's "Risotto" a few months ago, and never looked back!
>Imagine Orbital with a bit of angst, a smaller amount of melody, and
>lots of percussion.  The only thing that bugs me is that it has a little
>bit of a commercial sound to it.  It sounds like the record company
>(Astralwerks) did a little too much "tweaking" with it..  Other than
>that minor gripe, it's well worth it!

I doubt Astralwerks had a lot to do with it, as they'd just have licensed
it for US release. Fluke are on Virgin here in the UK, and I wouldn't put
it past them to try and force artists to commercialise their music. Not
that that's any excuse, FFRR were always on at Orbital to add vocals and
such, and they just told them to sod off. Of course time has shown that P&P
knew best :-)  Not that I'm surprised that they knew better than Pete Tong
and his mates.

cheers,
Jon

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From: "Daniel Kasaj" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) Fluke and stuff?
Date: 21 Jun 1998 18:44:27 +0200


Risotto's good but Fluke was top with "6 wheels on my wagon" and other kinda
older stuff.
squirt, however, is one of my fave fluke tunes.

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From: Kel <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) Fluke and stuff?
Date: 21 Jun 1998 23:05:45 -0400


Jon Green, among other Orbital-heads, wrote:

> I've always thought Fluke sound too much like other bands (esp.
> Underworld), but they're never bad.

Underworld, I think, is most excellent. They can run it hot and cold at
the same time with their grooves. Dubno is a way cool album. Seems like
just from 24 hours of letters that Fluke would be worth trying...

> As well as the two compilations there were albums by the artists on them.
> FUSE' "Dimension Intrusion" is one, and I think Autechre's first was too.
> And Polygon Window's "Surfing on Sine Waves". B12 and The Black Dog's first
> were probably too. Of the three I've got, FUSE is the best, then Polygon
> Window then Ae. I much prefer Autechre's more recent harsher output. Less
> than 24 hours until the new album!!!

I love ae, but what's this about a new album? I never heard anything
'bout this!! Let me know what they're up to please!! And also I have Tri
with the bonus disk, so what would be better to try next? Incunabula or
Amber? Which is more mellow, whatever might help me get an idea of them.
And I love Polygon Window, which of RDJ's albums is his best under the
AFX name? I was thinking of the Richard d james album... thanx, this
list looks to be a good sounding board. I'm leaving tuesday for London
and scandanaivia so I'll be back in mid-july. til then,
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From: [e-mail] (Ben Knowles)
Subject: (orbital) new CDs
Date: 22 Jun 1998 01:29:26 +0100


i went crazy buying CDs this weekend, so here's some short reviews that
might be of interest:

LFO, "Frequencies" - sounds sort of like early orbital (green album) but
not quite as good. don't get me wrong, i really like this CD. but i'd say
it's like one or two rungs below the brothers hartnoll. same sort of thing,
though. early-90s housey stuff. good.

mu-ziq, "in pine effect" - very yummy. more conventional (if you can call
it that) than anything i've heard by mike paradinas. lots of great melodies
and think layerings and not nearly as "drill-and-bass"-y as lunatic
harness. if you've been thinking about getting this, you won't be let down.
"phiesope" uses some acoustic guitar and cello samples from a kristen hersh
song, and it's simply beautiful.

mu-ziq, "brace yourself" ep - very good. the "brace yourself" remix is
kickass, as is intellitag and most of the rest of this ep. more in the
lunatic harness vein, still very melodic.

prodigy, "fire/jericho" single - i got this cuz "fire (sunrise version)"
from experience is probably my favorite song of theirs. the slower edit
version on this ep is really cool, cuz you find out where the samples were
from. i always thought he was saying "i-ya-ya-yah" but it's really "are you
ready?" you can't go wrong with early prodigy. so much better than... wait,
nevermind, i won't go into it. but this is pretty good stuff in the vein of
"experience."

other worthwhile newly-purchased CDs:

monopuff, "it's fun to steal"
tori amos, "from the choirgirl hotel"

september at the earliest? dude, fuck that. couldn't they at least put out
an ep or a single? i need something to tide me over.

thanks to whoever recommended www.hyperreal.org for rave information. very
useful site.

the good vibes, they snowin',
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From: "Price, Steve A" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) Update at Loopz - Ive heard 2 tracks off the new album
Date: 22 Jun 1998 08:23:44 +0100


Time is against me today....so check the UPDATES link on Loopz for
latest Updates and NEWS!
Ive heard 2 tracks from the new album.....read about it

Cheers

Steve LOOPZ Price
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www.hyperreal.org/loopz

p.s No one knows when the album is out...as it aint finished....dismiss
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From: Ez <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) need artist name
Date: 22 Jun 1998 09:16:23 +0100


Daniel Kasaj wrote:
>
> has anyone ever heard of a track called "I thought it was you"
> which has a kind of daft punk-ish feel to it, except I think
> the artist comes from the UK ?

Erm...don't like to suggest ridiculous answers, but I think it's an old
disco tune my dad played when I was a kid!  Has it got a synth voice and
a little horn riff going on through it?  If it has, I'm sure it's
something like Shakatak from about 1977.  I'll have a look later, I'm
sure I've got a copy somwhere...
Well, you did ask.
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From: "Alistair Roylance" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) FFRR Classics
Date: 22 Jun 1998 10:44:10 +0000


Just to let you know, FFRR are releasing a series of classic track 12
inch's, and No3, has Belfast on it...just for all you trainspotters
out there....

Re Carl Cox.....he's the business...he's one of the best...always has
been. The sort of stuff he plays out on a night is always alot better
than his own records. Go check him out..

Later

Al


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  I just know this time I mean it,
  but this feeling deep inside,
  says it's OK one more time.."
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From: [e-mail] (MICHAEL KENNEDY)
Subject: Re: (orbital) need artist name
Date: 22 Jun 1998 10:46:01 +0100



has anyone ever heard of a track called "I thought it was you"
which has a kind of daft punk-ish feel to it, except I think
the artist comes from the UK ? I need that artist name so
I could run it through the search engines.

Sounds like a CD single i've got - The artist name is Sex o sonique i
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From: [e-mail] (MICHAEL KENNEDY)
Subject: Re: (orbital) Fluke and stuff?
Date: 22 Jun 1998 10:53:52 +0100


what are the albums in Warp's artificial intelligence series?

The ones I know of are
aritificial intelliegence 1 + 2
black dog bytes
polygon window - surfing on sines waves

there's a b12 one I think but I've never heard this



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From: Andy Jackson <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) Re: I Thought It Was Herbie
Date: 22 Jun 1998 11:33:38 GMT


Re: the Sex-O-Sonique debate;

> has anyone ever heard of a track called "I thought it was you"
> which has a kind of daft punk-ish feel to it, except I think
> the artist comes from the UK ? I need that artist name so
> I could run it through the search engines.

> >Is it not Future Sound of London - I think they have a track like
> >that. What type of music is it?

> No, it's not even remotely similar to FSOL style. I said it was
> daft punk-ish, ergo very dancey, very repetative and with all those
> mech-voice stuff.... anyways, I got my answer from mr. Jonsson,
> the artist name is Sexosonic. Funny, i thought i heard the word
> Sexysonic spoken on the radio, but when i searched for it
> nothing came up. :)

I remember that vocodered sample when it wasn't a sample! It's from
Herbie Hancock's song of the same name (from the late 70s). It does
sound a bit Daft Punk - or should that be the other way round?

Yours feeling very old now...

Andy Jackson

: a n d r e w * j a c k s o n :
: l i b r a r i a n :
: s c h o o l * o f * n u r s i n g * a n d * m i d w i f e r y :
: u n i v e r s i t y * o f * d u n d e e :
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From: Jon Green <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) new CDs
Date: 22 Jun 1998 14:32:36 +0100


At 23:05 21/6/98 -0400, Kel wrote:
>
>I love ae, but what's this about a new album? I never heard anything
>'bout this!! Let me know what they're up to please!!=20

It's out today over here (I haven't managed to get into town to buy it, so
I can't tell you what it's like). Apparently there's a real audio feed of
it on the Warp website. =20

>And also I have Tri
>with the bonus disk, so what would be better to try next?=20

I'd normally say the Anti EP (Lost/Djarum/Flutter) and Anvil Vapre (Second
this/Second that, etc), but I think they ARE the bonus disk. If they're not
then get them if you like Tri Rep.=20

>Incunabula or Amber?=20

Well I've not got Amber, as I understand it's most like Garbage, which I'm
not that keen on. Incunabula is rather more mellow than Tri Rep, and
Chiastic Slide (fourth album) is harsher than any of the others. Apparently
 the new one's just very different to anything ever heard before.=20


At 01:29 22/6/98 +0100, Ben Knowles wrote:
>
>LFO, "Frequencies" - sounds sort of like early orbital (green album) but
>not quite as good. don't get me wrong, i really like this CD. but i'd say
>it's like one or two rungs below the brothers hartnoll. same sort of thing,
>though. early-90s housey stuff. good.

Hmm, I'm rate it alongside green, and LFO the track) is better than
anything on green. Not much better though. Their second album Advance is
nothing like the first one (so don't get it if you want more stuff like
Frequencies), and isn't as good.=20

>prodigy, "fire/jericho" single

Excellent choice. The Genaside II remix is so heavy!=20

>you can't go wrong with early prodigy. so much better than... wait,
>nevermind, i won't go into it.=20

Me neither, but I agree!=20


At 09:16 22/6/98 +0100, Ez wrote:
>
>Daniel Kasaj wrote:
>>=20
>> has anyone ever heard of a track called "I thought it was you"
>> which has a kind of daft punk-ish feel to it, except I think
>> the artist comes from the UK ?
>
>Erm...don't like to suggest ridiculous answers, but I think it's an old
>disco tune my dad played when I was a kid!  Has it got a synth voice and
>a little horn riff going on through it?=20

Most house records seem to these days!=20


At 10:44 22/6/98 +0000, Alistair Roylance wrote:
>
>Just to let you know, FFRR are releasing a series of classic track 12=20
>inch's, and No3, has Belfast on it...just for all you trainspotters=20
>out there....

No. 3 was out last week and is bloody expensive (=A37 or so). Not worth it,
I'd say.=20

Cheers,
Jon

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From: Aronne J Merrelli <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) Fluke and stuff?
Date: 22 Jun 1998 09:58:47 -0400 (EDT)


Excerpts from mail: 21-Jun-98 Re: (orbital) Fluke and stuff? by [e-mail]
> I love ae, but what's this about a new album? I never heard anything
> 'bout this!! Let me know what they're up to please!! And also I have Tri
> with the bonus disk, so what would be better to try next? Incunabula or
> Amber? Which is more mellow, whatever might help me get an idea of them.

Check the warp UK website (www.warp-net.com), I think they already have
some real audio clips of the new album.

Well, I would say they are both mellow; and both very good. I would say
Incunabula leans more toward straight IDM sorta-orbital-like sounds,
whereas in Amber they began to start to experiment a bit more.
Basically the older the Autechre album the less experimental it
sounds, and Incunabula was their first one. But, I very highly
recommend that you get _both_, as they are each amazing pieces
in their own way.

> And I love Polygon Window, which of RDJ's albums is his best under the
> AFX name? I was thinking of the Richard d james album... thanx, this

nooooooo!!!! Buy 'I care because you do' - IMHO this is by far the best
work under the AFX name. The RDJ album has a lot of short-attention span
music on it. A lot of that 'drill n bass' stuff, and other wierd things.
The songs that I like on the RDJ album just irritate me because they are
over in 2-3 minutes. It is still an album worth having I think, but
nowhere near the greatness of 'I care because you do' he still had an
attention span to make a song longer than 3 minutes when he wrote this
one :) I would also recommend the On EP, of course!


Regards,
    -Aronne


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From: Aronne J Merrelli <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) new CDs
Date: 22 Jun 1998 10:11:08 -0400 (EDT)


Excerpts from mail: 22-Jun-98 Re: (orbital) new CDs by Jon [e-mail]
> >And also I have Tri
> >with the bonus disk, so what would be better to try next?=20
>
> I'd normally say the Anti EP (Lost/Djarum/Flutter) and Anvil Vapre (Second
> this/Second that, etc), but I think they ARE the bonus disk. If they're not
> then get them if you like Tri Rep.=20

The bonus disk is the Garbage EP and Anvil Vapre EP; and yes, the
Anti EP is quite good although it only has 3 tracks. Flutter is just
too weird to describe, you have to hear it :)


Regards,
    -Aronne


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From: [e-mail] (Ben Knowles)
Subject: (orbital) autechre
Date: 22 Jun 1998 10:22:22 +0100


somebody wanted a recommendation on what autechre album to get next. i've
only heard incunabula a couple times, and it's pretty good, but my vote
would be for amber. it's quite a bit more ambient (less harsh) than tri
repetea, but still very autechre-y.

also, if you can find the "anti" ep, that's really good. especially flutter
with it's anti-criminal justice bill "non-repetitive beats." awesome.

good luck,
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From: <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) I'm back
Date: 22 Jun 1998 13:02:53 EDT


I doubt that anyone actually cares, but I am now back on this list. I used to
be under [e-mail] and it always had that final line that
said this message was sent by the Firstclass on the MAC OS or something like
that. Those days are now over. But ne way, I just wanted to thank the guy who
sent me the Box and Banco de Gaia because they are both awesome. Later.


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From: "Ian Moore" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) mmm... glastonbury
Date: 22 Jun 1998 10:07:03 PDT



Anyone else going to Glastonbury?

Orbital have wussed out of playing, but mighty Underworld haven't.

It's going to be [insert adjective here].

See you there.

Ian

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ends

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From: [e-mail] (Brandon Invergo)
Subject: (orbital) ken ishii
Date: 22 Jun 1998 13:52:31 EDT


hey everyone.
    i just ordered Jelly Tones by ken ishii (acuz i like his stuff)
and was just wondering how it was.

    thanks a bunch
    brandon
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From: "Morey Gamble" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) new CDs
Date: 22 Jun 1998 14:21:20 +0000


> > I'd normally say the Anti EP (Lost/Djarum/Flutter) and Anvil Vapre (Second
> > this/Second that, etc), but I think they ARE the bonus disk. If they're not
> > then get them if you like Tri Rep.=20
>
> The bonus disk is the Garbage EP and Anvil Vapre EP; and yes, the
> Anti EP is quite good although it only has 3 tracks. Flutter is just
> too weird to describe, you have to hear it :)

    I just got a coupla songs in .mp3 and was wondering what album
they're from, because they're excellent. The titles are yeesland,
teartear, and chatter..


-Morey
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From: "Morey Gamble" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) ken ishii
Date: 22 Jun 1998 14:24:54 +0000


>
>
> hey everyone.
>     i just ordered Jelly Tones by ken ishii (acuz i like his stuff)
> and was just wondering how it was.

    seems like I heard it referred to as 'ambient techno shot through a
cloud of perfume', or something to that effect. It's pretty good. Not
my usual style, but I'm glad to have it to put in when I'm in that
mood. The ambient track and the end (endless season, i think?) and
'extra' are the best songs (at least i think so).


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From: Jon Green <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) new Autechre album
Date: 22 Jun 1998 18:11:07 +0100


At 14:32 22/6/98 +0100, Jon Green wrote:
>
>It's out today over here (I haven't managed to get into town to buy it, so
>I can't tell you what it's like).

And I still can't because Selectadisc say it's been put back to next week.
But Warp's site says July, "due to problems with the artwork". Not fair!
That's ruined by (already rather bad) day.

Jon, pissed off.

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Subject: Re: (orbital) Autechre again
Date: 22 Jun 1998 19:46:33 +0100


At 14:21 22/6/98 +0000, Morey Gamble wrote:
>
>    I just got a coupla songs in .mp3 and was wondering what album
>they're from, because they're excellent. The titles are yeesland,
>teartear, and chatter..

Yeesland is from the Cichlisuite single, but I'm not sure about the other
two. Ae's titles can be hard to decipher, especially as they rarely make
any sense. Chatter could be Characi from Cichlisuite, or Cipater from
Chiastic Slide, or maybe Clipper from Tri Repetae. Teartear isn't familiar
to me.

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From: Aronne J Merrelli <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) new CDs
Date: 22 Jun 1998 15:10:50 -0400 (EDT)


Excerpts from mail: 22-Jun-98 Re: (orbital) new CDs by @wnc.com
>         I just got a coupla songs in .mp3 and was wondering what album
> they're from, because they're excellent. The titles are yeesland,
> teartear, and chatter..

yeesland = from 'Chicilisuite' EP
teartear = ending track on 'Amber' album
chatter = Artificial Intelligence volume 2 (compilation)


Regards,
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From: "Agust 'Nemesis1' Arni Jonsson" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) new CDs > autechre
Date: 22 Jun 1998 19:18:18 +0100


At 14:21 22.6.1998 +0000, you wrote:
>    I just got a coupla songs in .mp3 and was wondering what album
>they're from, because they're excellent. The titles are yeesland,
>teartear, and chatter..
teartear is the last track of Amber (track 11)

as for the one wondering if to get Amber or Incunabula, it's up to you.
both cds are very good, though I personally think that Incunabula is a
better cd... and well worth shopping just for the last track "444" which is
absolutely brilliantly awesome :)
anyways, I'm just waiting for my order from ab-cd to arrive, I ordered the
cds I didn't have from Autechre, ie Chiastic Slide, Bass Cadet, Anti ep &
Envane and damn, am I getting impatient on receiving them... :P ok, ok, so
it's only been 15 days, and I'm overseas but heck, cduniverse is faster ;)



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From: [e-mail] (trent 242 x)
Subject: (orbital) Medicine Drum
Date: 22 Jun 1998 16:49:26 -0400


i finally heard Medicine Drum! they're really great and trippy. i
*high*ly reccomend them to everyone.


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From: Frederic Fournier <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) autechre
Date: 22 Jun 1998 17:56:50 -0400 (EDT)


On Mon, 22 Jun 1998, Ben Knowles wrote:

> somebody wanted a recommendation on what autechre album to get next. i've
> only heard incunabula a couple times, and it's pretty good, but my vote
> would be for amber. it's quite a bit more ambient (less harsh) than tri

I really agree, Amber is the best bet for a first contact with Autechre.
Remember to give it time though, because if you're not used to that kind
of music it may take a while for uou to adapt but really it's worth it.

Incunabula is the easiest Autechre to listen to imho, and is quite good
indeed too, but Amber is more serious stuff I'd say.

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From: "Daniel Kasaj" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) my thoughts on mezzanine
Date: 23 Jun 1998 00:03:33 +0200


me like.

and now so you can all see what a commercial soul i have :

my favorite is teardrop. I played it over and over and then
a friend heard me playing it and said it was a big hit on MTV.

yuck.

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From: "Daniel Kasaj" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) Re: I Thought It Was Herbie
Date: 23 Jun 1998 00:06:39 +0200


>I remember that vocodered sample when it wasn't a sample! It's from
>Herbie Hancock's song of the same name (from the late 70s). It does
>sound a bit Daft Punk - or should that be the other way round?


thank you all for helping me out and you Andy for providing the info,
i finally got the tune + the remixes. can't wait to play it all...

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Subject: (orbital) Out There...Going Nowhere
Date: 22 Jun 1998 19:31:20 EDT



Just wanted everyone to know that I have COMPLETELY tried for the last time to
like
"Out There Somewhere"......and I just CAN'T

God, the first part is really horrible..........and I'm not knocking the
people who love it.

I just wanted to say I really really tried.......and I feel so guilty

Brent
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From: "Ian Moore" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) mmm... glastonbury
Date: 23 Jun 1998 05:12:28 PDT


hi Sam!

><< Orbital have wussed out of playing >>
>
>maybe they didnt go to play because we have all been whining about the
new
>album taking so long. so they decided to please us and work extra hard.

My friends and I have been talking about this... we reckon it would do
them good to get out more. One monster gig of theirs at Glasto would
really remind them what good music is all about.

Maybe.

ian

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From: "Mehul Parekh" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) rare 12"
Date: 23 Jun 1998 11:29:08 PDT


Hey all:
For those of you who are really, really into gatheing all records
(including those rare 12"'s), here's a site for you:
http://www.virtualvinyl.ndirect.co.uk/
But specifically:
http://www.virtualvinyl.ndirect.co.uk/pianolr.html
b/c they got old Orbital there.
Best of luck.  And I think I heard someone say that they got the
radiccio 12" from www.imvs.com.  Although it is very hard to get the
radiccio cd.
Hurry up, P&P, I'm dying here.

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Subject: (orbital) satan single
Date: 23 Jun 1998 14:52:54 EDT


greetings--

    is the satan single worth picking up 4the remix of The Girl With The Sun
In Her Head?  i have heard it's rather go0d, but i already have satan on the
satan/saint ep -- argh! very annoying... it took me 4ever to find the original
in sides with the time flys/the box ep--- ... what does the version on the
satan single sound like?

   also, did n e 1 try the Start button thing?  mine worked fine, but i spent
eternity and a lifetime milling thru the code for the right thing 2change....


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From: Morey Gamble <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) Out There...Going Nowhere (busy tranquilizing)
Date: 23 Jun 1998 15:53:55 -0400




[e-mail] wrote:

> Just wanted everyone to know that I have COMPLETELY tried for the last time to
> like
> "Out There Somewhere"......and I just CAN'T
>
> God, the first part is really horrible..........and I'm not knocking the
> people who love it.
>
> I just wanted to say I really really tried.......and I feel so guilty

    It's okay, man.. We can't all be perfect.. :) I still can't listen to 'The
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From: Morey Gamble <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) rare 12"
Date: 23 Jun 1998 16:03:10 -0400




[e-mail] wrote:

> Best of luck.  And I think I heard someone say that they got the
> radiccio 12" from www.imvs.com.  Although it is very hard to get the
> radiccio cd.

    That would be me. But actually, I got the radiccio CD from CDNOW..(although
it was about a year and a half ago...)

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Subject: Re: (orbital) satan single
Date: 23 Jun 1998 16:11:05 -0400




[e-mail] wrote:

>     is the satan single worth picking up 4the remix of The Girl With The Sun
> In Her Head?  i have heard it's rather go0d, but i already have satan on the
> satan/saint ep -- argh! very annoying... it took me 4ever to find the original
> in sides with the time flys/the box ep--- ... what does the version on the
> satan single sound like?

    If you don't have a live version of the girl with the sun in her head, then
buy it, absolutely. i would recommend the import version over the domestic if you
can find it. Or, them, rather. If you can get Satan Live two, it had the best
version of Satan of any of them (in my opinion), plus in addition to tgwtsihh, it
has the live version of lush as well. If you can't find that, then definitely pick
up the domestic..

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From: Jon Green <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) TGWTSIHH live
Date: 23 Jun 1998 21:33:02 +0100


At 16:11 23/6/98 -0400, Morey Gamble wrote:
>
>    If you don't have a live version of the girl with the sun in her head,
then
>buy it, absolutely.

I'd say don't bother because it just sounds the same as the album version,
but a bit shorter. Unless of course you like the crowd noise.

cheers,
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From: "Daniel Kasaj" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) Ray Keith Mutation / Got to keep the fire burnin
Date: 23 Jun 1998 22:38:30 +0200


I am now listening to the album i always wanted to have -
(yes I have it now :)) Baby D's "Deliverance". And guess what...?
There's a track called Daydreaming which has the female vocal singing
"Got to keep the fire burnin'..." etc.. the same vocal (sample)
that appears in the Ray Keith Mutation of Chime.
WOW.

Should have recognized it before.

anyways...the album is TOP.

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Subject: Re: (orbital) Ray Keith Mutation / Got to keep the fire burnin
Date: 23 Jun 1998 21:41:17 +0100


At 22:38 23/6/98 +0200, Daniel Kasaj wrote:
>
>I am now listening to the album i always wanted to have -
>(yes I have it now :)) Baby D's "Deliverance". And guess what...?
>There's a track called Daydreaming which has the female vocal singing
>"Got to keep the fire burnin'..." etc.. the same vocal (sample)
>that appears in the Ray Keith Mutation of Chime.
>WOW.

One of my mates assures me the 'keep the fire burning' is nicked by both
from some old house record.

>anyways...the album is TOP.

I only liked the ACEN mix from the bonus CD. Baby D are way too popjungle
for my liking. 'Let me be your fantasy' sounded fine in '91 or whenever,
but the rest is not to my liking at all.

cheers,
Jon

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From: "Daniel Kasaj" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) Ray Keith Mutation / Got to keep the fire burnin
Date: 23 Jun 1998 22:55:12 +0200


>One of my mates assures me the 'keep the fire burning' is nicked by both
>from some old house record.

i might believe that if the words didn't fit in perfectly with the other
lyrics...

>I only liked the ACEN mix from the bonus CD. Baby D are way too popjungle
>for my liking. 'Let me be your fantasy' sounded fine in '91 or whenever,
>but the rest is not to my liking at all.

damn, haven't got the bonus CD ! you sure know how to make a person's day :)

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From: "Aimee Couture" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) satan single
Date: 23 Jun 1998 15:36:07 -0700


**
is the satan single worth picking up 4the remix of The Girl With The Sun In Her Head?
**

That's why I bought it.... track listing on the back is incorrect with lengths though..
tgwsihh live on there sounds great.. but not as great as the version I can run through my head n see the video screens in my head.... mmmmmmmm precious lolla memories...............

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From: Elliot Bancroft <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) rare 12"
Date: 23 Jun 1998 16:35:25 -0700 (PDT)



I just bought that CD last week from IMVS.com based in England. Very
CHEAP approx $7/8 + postage
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From: [e-mail] (trent 242 x)
Subject: (orbital) Lush 3-1 In-sides?
Date: 23 Jun 1998 20:18:49 -0400


is it just me or does Lush 3-1 sound a bit like a song on Insides? i'd
check and state the name, but i'm too lazy to get up and i'm sure one of
you people knows what's up...



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From: [e-mail] (MICHAEL KENNEDY)
Subject: Re: (orbital) Ray Keith Mutation / Got to keep the fire burnin
Date: 24 Jun 1998 08:58:14 +0100


The 'keep the fire burning' sample could be from a track on XL Recordings
the third chapter by a group called House crew or something like that -
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From: "morpheus" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) Thanx to all
Date: 23 Jun 1998 23:39:17 -0700


Hey,

Thanx to everyone who recommended that I buy Global Communication 76:14 and
to the person who recommended to the list the use of EAR/Rational.  I got my
cd today not only did it cost me about half of what I would have payed to
order from HMV, but I got it really quick too.  (I ordered B12 - Time
Tourists from HMV back at the end of February and I still haven't gotten it.
It's not an import either.)  This cd is so amazing.  It has the song that I
recorded so long ago from the radio.  Track 8 (5:23) I loved that song from
the first listen and have been on a trek to find the cd but was never able
to find it.  But as if trak 8 wasn't worth while enough, track 3 (9:25) is
even better.  Wow, total ramble, sorry.

Long story short: Thanx for the recommendations.

peace
morpheus

PS- Did the new Autechre get delayed or something?  I went into Virgin today
to get it, and they at first told me they sold out of it last week.  I said
that it came out yesterday and the guy said "They have a new album out?
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From: "[e-mail]" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) Rabbit In The Moon Remix Album
Date: 24 Jun 1998 01:25:09 -0700


Just so all know, a new Rabbit In The Moon CD is out now with rare and
previously unreleased remixes.  What does this have to do with you?
Theres a track on there entitled: "Are We Here? laconic dub ".


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From: jon masciana <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) Rabbit In The Moon Remix Album
Date: 24 Jun 1998 02:01:41 -0700


At 01:25 AM 6/24/98 -0700, you wrote:
>
>Just so all know, a new Rabbit In The Moon CD is out now with rare and
>previously unreleased remixes.  What does this have to do with you?
>Theres a track on there entitled: "Are We Here? laconic dub ".
>
>
>.MatthewFord.

Thanks for pointing this one out--Rabbit in the moon are the best things to
come along since...well Orbital, really. I highly recommend picking up this
cd since you'll love it, I'll guarantee it! I ordered it a few months ago
from their Hallucination site, but they have not delivered it yet after
months..it seems to be readily available at Tower. They've done some great
work, but I agree, the Orbital remix is not their best. TIme for me to pick
it up tomorrow--

Does anyone have the RITM remix of Ether-Bodyjazz? That seems to be the
hardest one to find....you guys will definitely like the Astral Pilot remix
of Electro Acupuncture---

Take care,

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From: Jon Green <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) this and that
Date: 24 Jun 1998 12:28:49 +0100


At 22:55 23/6/98 +0200, Daniel Kasaj wrote:
>
>>One of my mates assures me the 'keep the fire burning' is nicked by both
>>from some old house record.
>
>i might believe that if the words didn't fit in perfectly with the other
>lyrics...

I meant the whole sample, or maybe Baby D just nicked the words and resung
them. Or maybe he was wrong...

>damn, haven't got the bonus CD ! you sure know how to make a person's day :)

Well there's just an ACEN mix of 'Daydreaming', a Prodigy mix of something
or other (not very good really) and a couple of other Baby D tracks, can't
remember if they're remixes of other songs on the album or what they are.


At 08:58 24/6/98 +0100, MICHAEL KENNEDY wrote:
>
>The 'keep the fire burning' sample could be from a track on XL Recordings
>the third chapter by a group called House crew or something like that -
>it's called keep the fire burning or maybe they sampled it as well

I think Baby D's track was out earlier than the third chapter would have
been, so 'd guess House Crew sampled it too.


At 20:18 23/6/98 -0400, trent 242 x wrote:
>
>is it just me or does Lush 3-1 sound a bit like a song on Insides? i'd
>check and state the name, but i'm too lazy to get up and i'm sure one of
>you people knows what's up...

Out there somewhere.


At 23:39 23/6/98 -0700, morpheus wrote:
>
>PS- Did the new Autechre get delayed or something?  I went into Virgin today
>to get it, and they at first told me they sold out of it last week.  I said
>that it came out yesterday and the guy said "They have a new album out?
>Wow."  He chacked the computer but it said nothing.

Sister Ray in Soho said it's been put back to next week, but Warp's website
says it's been put back to July, due to "difficulties with the artwork".
I'd rather have it without the artwork than wait another week or two!

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From: "Price, Steve A" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) Belfast on FFRR compilation
Date: 24 Jun 1998 13:36:08 +0100


>Just to let you know, FFRR are releasing a series of classic track 12
>inch's, and No3, has Belfast on it...just for all you trainspotters
>out there....

And it will most likely be a new mix but not by Orbital. This was
supposed to be non - concrete information so im suprised they have
mentioned this. Where did u hear about it Alistair ?

Thanx

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From: "Price, Steve A" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) LFO Frequencies
Date: 24 Jun 1998 13:43:58 +0100


>>LFO, "Frequencies" - sounds sort of like early orbital (green album) but
>>not quite as good. don't get me wrong, i really like this CD. but i'd say
>>it's like one or two rungs below the brothers hartnoll. same sort of thing,
>>though. early-90s housey stuff. good.

>Hmm, I'm rate it alongside green, and LFO the track) is better than
>anything on green. Not much better though. Their second album Advance is
>nothing like the first one (so don't get it if you want more stuff like
>Frequencies), and isn't as good.=20

I gotta agree...i love Frequencies...it was awesome for its time and
still is an inspiring piece of music. "Simon from Sydney" portrays harsh
distorted synth with beautiful ambience. "LFO" is just a classic and
maybe one of the first low (and im talking low) frequency bass tracks.
I think "Shove Piggy Shove" and the track after (or is it before) are
the highlights of "Advance" but yep...its different from Frequencies.

Cheers

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From: "Price, Steve A" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) Orbital and Glastonbury
Date: 24 Jun 1998 13:48:36 +0100


><< Orbital have wussed out of playing >>
>>
>>maybe they didnt go to play because we have all been whining about the
>>new
>>album taking so long. so they decided to please us and work extra hard.

>My friends and I have been talking about this... we reckon it would do
>them good to get out more. One monster gig of theirs at Glasto would
>really remind them what good music is all about.

And then they would get slated for playing old material or a similar
set. Then get slated for delaying the album even longer because they
have to get a set ready for this....they could never win.
You guys are never happy are u. Spoilt comes to mind.

Thanks

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From: "Price, Steve A" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) Keep the fire burning...
Date: 24 Jun 1998 13:52:09 +0100


>>I am now listening to the album i always wanted to have -
>>(yes I have it now :)) Baby D's "Deliverance". And guess what...?
>>There's a track called Daydreaming which has the female vocal singing
>>"Got to keep the fire burnin'..." etc.. the same vocal (sample)
>>that appears in the Ray Keith Mutation of Chime.
>>WOW.

>One of my mates assures me the 'keep the fire burning' is nicked by both
>from some old house record.

mmmm...id say he has a valid point. Probably find Baby D sampled the
same track.

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From: Morey Gamble <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) satan single
Date: 24 Jun 1998 12:53:57 -0400




[e-mail] wrote:

> Okay, so how many Satan's are there?  the 3 live ones and the one from
> the US (w/ kirk hammett), is there another one?  B/C I got all of those.
> But is there another live version of TGWTSIHH?  Cause I love the song
> live.
> Let me know, eh?
>

    Well, there's one on Sally's Photographic Memory that may or may not me
the same as the one on the US satan single. I have the satan single on vinyl
and it doesn't have the girl with the sun in her head on it. That's all I am
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From: [e-mail] (Brandon Invergo)
Subject: (orbital) radiccio
Date: 24 Jun 1998 18:08:37 EDT


hey there everyone.  need a little help here.  ok, i've heard of the
radiccio cd, cuz  you guys are always talking about it, but what the hell
is it?  an ep or something?  i've never seen it anywhere.  hmm.  know
anywhere that i could order it (especially places not on the internet,
since i'm internet-impaired).  also, is it good?  that's always
important, though i assume it is.  yup.

oh by the way, i got Northern Exposure II East and West Coast editions,
and i must say that they are fine pieces of work.  mm mm good.

    later
      Brandon

ps-sorry one more thing, is the new autechre due in the u.s. at the same
time as everywhere else (which would be when, sometime in july?)?
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From: "Aimee Couture" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) That underworld cd
Date: 24 Jun 1998 16:56:48 -0700


Okay..
to the people that asked me about the underworld cd I found at the used store for $27.95 canadian.. it is NOT the dark and long single... I went back today (Hey Loopz I have sniv on tape now) to pick up sniv.. and the underworld cd was called diving (driving?) through the bsides volume one.. the bottom right corner on the front says 'westwood one radio network'.. sorry I don't have more details but I didn't have a pen and I walked home in 32C weather after so my brain kinda went to mush... I looked all over the net but there isn't any info...

hehe steve I have sniv on tape... add it with the canadian sniv on cd... it's also on polygram canada but the cat. number is 422 828 536-4....

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From: Lazlo Nibble <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) Orbitals playlist ?
Date: 24 Jun 1998 22:04:44 -0600


On Fri, Jun 12, 1998 at 03:27:32PM +0100, Price, Steve A wrote:

> Ever wonder what they listen to... this is their current
> playlist..shocked u may well be :)
>
> ENNIO MORRICONE............A Fistfull Of Film Music (Rhino)

Ask them if they ever feel tempted to sing along with the theme from "Il
Ritorno Di Ringo". :-)

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From: Lazlo Nibble <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) That underworld cd
Date: 24 Jun 1998 22:14:18 -0600


On Wed, Jun 24, 1998 at 04:56:48PM -0700, Aimee Couture wrote:

> to the people that asked me about the underworld cd I found at the used
> store for $27.95 canadian.. it is NOT the dark and long single... I went
> back today (Hey Loopz I have sniv on tape now) to pick up sniv.. and the
> underworld cd was called diving (driving?) through the bsides volume
> one.. the bottom right corner on the front says 'westwood one radio
> network'

This may or may not be a bootleg, but in either case it's just a compilation
of reasonably common tracks:

     12:33    Spikee
      9:42    Born Slippy (tel.ematic)
      9:42    Dogman Go Woof
     10:02    Dirty Guitar
     11:51    Cowgirl (irish pub in kyoto mix)
      8:35    Oich Oich
      8:25    Cherry Pie

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From: "Jim L. Jones" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) orbital vs rabbit in the moon...
Date: 25 Jun 1998 00:10:20 -0400


Saw a post on here about rabbit in the moon..
IMHO... ORBITAL

Maybe its because ive seen rabbit way too much
and not enough orbital but, in regards to quality
of material, Orbital blows them away...

my $.02 (rapidly being devalued against the Yen etc..)

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From: [e-mail] (trent 242 x)
Subject: (orbital) FSOL
Date: 25 Jun 1998 01:36:25 -0400


i picked up FSOL's "dead cities" today. IT jams! i love it, & highly
recommend it to all, again. it was definitely worked on for a long time,
go buy it!! also, i highly dis-recommend the "Happy Hardcore Ravers"
compilation. It was obviously very poorly done, all thrown together in a
day, i'm sure.

we have explosive....
sounds sooo much cooler when not coming through MTV's AMP...

Waylon



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From: [e-mail] (MICHAEL KENNEDY)
Subject: (orbital) off the list for a while!
Date: 25 Jun 1998 09:02:04 +0100


College finishes today so I won't be round on the list til sometime in
September.
If anyone I'm trading with wants to contact me e mail me sometime this
morning - any later and I probably won't get to read it / all tapes will
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From: "morpheus" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) A question?
Date: 25 Jun 1998 01:31:55 -0700


Hey,

I liked that change of the start button thing that was posted the other day.
Does anyone know any other cool tricks?  In particular, does anyone know how
to change the boot up picture for windows?
any tips and tricks would appreciated.
thanx
peace
morpheus

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From: Elliot Bancroft <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) radiccio
Date: 25 Jun 1998 01:29:20 -0700 (PDT)








> hey there everyone.  need a little help here.  ok, i've heard of the
> radiccio cd, cuz  you guys are always talking about it, but what the
hell
> is it?  an ep or something?  i've never seen it anywhere.  hmm.  know
> anywhere that i could order it (especially places not on the internet,
> since i'm internet-impaired).  also, is it good?  that's always

Radiccio is pretty good yeah
three songs diff version of halcyon (which is wicked)
                Sunday
                The Naked and the Dead

You can buy it from a company on the internet (In England for about
$7/8 dollars
www.imvs.com

I hope that helps you

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From: "[e-mail]" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) Rabbit In The Moon Remix Album
Date: 25 Jun 1998 01:37:43 -0700


No, I dont.  I do have the Aquarhythms CD with the Heart Seqs. remix of
it though.  Aquarhythms is the same guy.


.MatthewFord.


jon masciana wrote:
>
> At 01:25 AM 6/24/98 -0700, you wrote:
> >
> >Just so all know, a new Rabbit In The Moon CD is out now with rare and
> >previously unreleased remixes.  What does this have to do with you?
> >Theres a track on there entitled: "Are We Here? laconic dub ".
> >
> >
> >.MatthewFord.
>
> Thanks for pointing this one out--Rabbit in the moon are the best things to
> come along since...well Orbital, really. I highly recommend picking up this
> cd since you'll love it, I'll guarantee it! I ordered it a few months ago
> from their Hallucination site, but they have not delivered it yet after
> months..it seems to be readily available at Tower. They've done some great
> work, but I agree, the Orbital remix is not their best. TIme for me to pick
> it up tomorrow--
>
> Does anyone have the RITM remix of Ether-Bodyjazz? That seems to be the
> hardest one to find....you guys will definitely like the Astral Pilot remix
> of Electro Acupuncture---
>
> Take care,
>
> jon


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From: Aronne J Merrelli <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) A question?
Date: 25 Jun 1998 09:39:22 -0400 (EDT)


Excerpts from mail: 25-Jun-98 (orbital) A question? by @axionet.com
> I liked that change of the start button thing that was posted the
other     > day. Does anyone know any other cool tricks?  In particular,
does anyone   > know how to change the boot up picture for windows?
> any tips and tricks would appreciated.

Yeah , this is extremely easy - there is a file (either in c:\ or
c:\windows, I can't remember off the top of my head and I'm not
on a windows machine at the moment.) called logo.sys. Just replace
this file with any bitmap of identical size. Off the top of my head
I believe it is either 320x200x256 or 320x400x256. Also the shutdown
screens can be changed similarly, it is another *.sys file, just
look for one that is the same size as logo.sys - 147KB or something
like that.
Making the bootup image animated is another matter, but I know there
are tools on the net to do this. Check www.winfiles.com or something
similar.
And please back up the old files first, in case you pick the wrong
.sys file, so you don't have to reinstall windows :)


Regards,
    -Aronne


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From: [e-mail] (Ben Knowles)
Subject: (orbital) kraftwerk
Date: 25 Jun 1998 13:00:08 +0100


okay, this should be an easy question... the one band that is probably most
often credited as having an influence on orbital is kraftwerk. i've been
thinking about buying something by them, but i don't know where to start. i
heard the song "spacelab" and thought that was really nice. could somebody
recommend a good CD to of theirs to start with?

thanks,
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From: kiss the sun and walk on air <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) Rabbit In The Moon Remix Album
Date: 25 Jun 1998 13:25:15 -0400


At 05:01 AM 6/24/98 , you wrote:
>Does anyone have the RITM remix of Ether-Bodyjazz? That seems to be the
>hardest one to find....you guys will definitely like the Astral Pilot remix
>of Electro Acupuncture---

I'm pretty sure I have that one on tape somewhere (an avid RITM vinyl
collector threw a bunch of stuff on tape for me once)
-pete

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From: Morey Gamble <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) orbital vs rabbit in the moon...
Date: 25 Jun 1998 13:33:01 -0400




[e-mail] wrote:

> Saw a post on here about rabbit in the moon..
> IMHO... ORBITAL
>
> Maybe its because ive seen rabbit way too much
> and not enough orbital but, in regards to quality
> of material, Orbital blows them away...
>

       Having seen both, I can assure you that you are correct. Getting ready
to see ritm for the second time next month, actually. They've supposedly
re-developed their show, so we'll hafta see what they come up with, since it
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From: Chris <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) mp3
Date: 25 Jun 1998 11:56:14 -0600


hello all.  after about 8 months, i have finally gotten my soundcard working
again and have been exposed to the wonders of mp3s, however i don't know
where to find any.  could somebody give me some sites that contain an
abundance of electronic/industrial/whatever mp3s.  thanks muchly.


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Man is no God,                     rose's stem.
Mankind is, and always will be...  Thorns they do intend
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From: "Patrick McGinn" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) A question?
Date: 25 Jun 1998 15:13:03 -0400


You just need to replace three files:
logo.sys
logos.sys
logow.sys

Do a search for them, they're all spread between C:\Windows and
Windows\System.

Right now my start-up and shut down screens are pics of Rincewind.

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From: [e-mail] (Rich J Bide)
Subject: Re: (orbital) FSOL
Date: 25 Jun 1998 15:40:07 -0400



On Thu, 25 Jun 1998 01:36:25 -0400 [e-mail] (trent 242 x)
writes:
> i picked up FSOL's "dead cities" today. IT jams! i love it, & highly
>recommend it to all, again. it was definitely worked on for a long
>time, go buy it!!
>Waylon

For those of you who haven't picked this one up yet, it's available from
my website, along with the Propellerheads and other techno/ambient treats
- all reasonably priced. Check out

    http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Stadium/6749/

Comments and critiques welcome - e-mail me privately.

Thanks,
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From: <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) In Sides Question
Date: 25 Jun 1998 17:10:16 EDT


Hello all.
I currently own the 2nd U.S. release of "In Sides" with the bonus disk that
ends with the live version of Halycon...(Catalogue number 697-124129-2).  I
just ordered (hopefully) the first U.S. release with the "Times Fly" and "The
Box" singles on the bonus disk...(Catalogue number 697-124087-2).  I'm
confused by some sources that say "Initial pressings of the disk contain a
bonus disk."   Does anybody know if there are only two U.S. C.D. versions of
the album, both with a bonus C.D., or is there a second release of the first
press with no bonus disk at all?  Thanks for your help.
Confused, Brian


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From: Jon Green <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) mp3
Date: 26 Jun 1998 01:41:05 +0100


At 11:56 25/6/98 -0600, Chris wrote:
>
>hello all.  after about 8 months, i have finally gotten my soundcard working
>again and have been exposed to the wonders of mp3s, however i don't know
>where to find any.  could somebody give me some sites that contain an
>abundance of electronic/industrial/whatever mp3s.  thanks muchly.

yeah I'd like to know where to get some decent ones too.

cheers,
Jon

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From: ccfpark <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) Meat BEat in Miami
Date: 25 Jun 1998 21:17:51 -0400 (EDT)


Hey!  Anyone going to the Meat Beat show in Miami this Saturday?  Yea I guess Prodigy is
playing but who could pass up Meat Beat in concert.

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From: "Price, Steve A" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) New Album / Cleaing WAV Files
Date: 26 Jun 1998 13:06:00 +0100


All,

There will be another news update on the new album at the weekend
(probably late Saturday) as ive just finished having a brief chat to
Paul about a few things. Im also interested to hear off people who
manipulate WAV files and know of a good hiss-reducing filter (or a
package that can do it). Please email me at [e-mail]
(not on Xmission).

Also...the second remix competition will begin in a month or so...but
the rules may be slightly different from before....more on that at a
later time.

GOOD LUCK ENGLAND! (we want Croatia next !) - finger crossed for
tonight.

Thanx

Steve LOOPZ Price
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From: "Daniel Kasaj" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) New Album / Cleaing WAV Files
Date: 26 Jun 1998 14:48:36 +0200


Price, Steve A:
+AD4-GOOD LUCK ENGLAND+ACE- (we want Croatia next +ACE-) - finger crossed for
+AD4-tonight.

Be careful what U wish for, you just might get it +ADs--)

I'm off to a pub to watch the Argentina game,

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From: Doris Hernandez <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) argentina VS croatia...
Date: 26 Jun 1998 09:12:32 -0500


hello, list!

per the game today:
vamos argentina!!  (sorry d ;))

they will kick ass! (i hope)

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From: Ulysses Ber <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) Re: [242RANTS] Meat BEat in Miami
Date: 26 Jun 1998 01:32:11 -0500 (CDT)


heya,

if i had the flow, i would make it, but i just paid off tuition at FAU. it
looks like i'll have to catch them on their own tour. saw em last year
though....woohooo.=)

mike

On Thu, 25 Jun 1998, ccfpark wrote:

> Hey!  Anyone going to the Meat Beat show in Miami this Saturday?  Yea I guess Prodigy is
> playing but who could pass up Meat Beat in concert.
>
> I am the Terry Cloth God!!!
> Bow Down and Wash with ME!!!
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Subject: Re: (orbital) A question?
Date: 26 Jun 1998 08:58:47 +0200


Morpheus wrote:

>I liked that change of the start button thing that was posted the other day.
>Does anyone know any other cool tricks?  In particular, does anyone know how
>to change the boot up picture for windows?
>any tips and tricks would appreciated.
>
>just watched Hackers for like the 30th time and it got me in the mood.
:)))))) LOL !

You should have a LOGO.SYS in your root directory of the Windows drive.
This is in fact a 320 x 400 BMP file with 256 color (8-bit) palette. I thought
everyone knew that by now. Anyways, you also have the LOGOW.SYS for
"Please wait while your computer shuts down" and LOGOS.SYS for "It is
now safe to turn off your computer" in the Windows directory. They're both
the same BMP format. Oh and btw, logo.sys is usually hidden while the other
two aren't.

now getting hooked to DJ Kicks: Kruder & Dorfmeister
(mmmm blue moon...you saw me standing alone.....),

Daniel
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From: "Daniel Kasaj" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) Problems
Date: 26 Jun 1998 09:00:34 +0200


My [e-mail] address got renamed to [e-mail].
Now I added that into my reply-to field but i think i'm having
some trouble unsubscribing etc etc. I just wanted to let u all know
that i'm sorry if any garbage mail ends up on the list because
of my nonexistent old address.
I'm trying to get on top of that ASAP.

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From: "Daniel Kasaj" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) Problems
Date: 26 Jun 1998 19:15:27 +0200


>I'm trying to get on top of that ASAP.


i wrote that message ages ago and got it just now.
funny.

Daniel
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From: "Benjamin Szabo" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) A question?
Date: 26 Jun 1998 12:41:20 PDT


>now getting hooked to DJ Kicks: Kruder & Dorfmeister
>(mmmm blue moon...you saw me standing alone.....),
>
>Daniel


I was chekkin that cd out the other day. Would you mind giving a
description of the mix?

Thanx

Ben

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From: "Wouter Hermans" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) A question?
Date: 26 Jun 1998 22:16:56 +0200


>>easy:  make a .bmp (format 300x400?) in your root (c:\) and name it
>logo.sys
>>for the two closing screens:  make two .bmps (same format) in your windows
>>directory (c:\windows)
>>name one logos.sys (shutdown) and one logow.sys (wait for shutdown)
>>
>>there ya go
>
>ok thanx, but i did all of this and now no screens appear at all.  Be more
>specific with the formats and the deails.


ok, i checked... it's 320 pixels width, 400 pixels height, and colors is 256
(logically, bmp's can only hold up to 256 colors).  the names are correct.
they're just bmp's, but with extentions .sys .

so i was 20 pixels wrong...hmmm

say, did orbital do something some years ago with moby?  i have here an
interview with moby, and there is mention of orbital in it...

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From: "gypy" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) ho-hum...topical stuff....
Date: 26 Jun 1998 23:07:02 +0100


hey ho!!   Just thought I'd sat here long enough & too quietly, so here's
some totally non-orbital yelling.....WOAH ANDERTON -  WOAH BECKHAM!!!!!!!
 Bring on the Argies..:):):)  and while I'm at it...glad someone else other
than me admits to liking Hackers (hope you weren't being sarky Morph.....)

                                XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX


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From: jON <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) Re: mp3's
Date: 26 Jun 1998 23:22:27 +0100 (BST)



> could somebody give me some sites that contain an abundance of
> electronic/industrial/whatever mp3s.  thanks muchly.

Try http://www.hornet.org they're one of the best as far as I know...

.....jON.....






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From: Nub <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) Re: orbital-digest V2 #93
Date: 26 Jun 1998 13:42:27 -0500 (EST)


re: where to find mp3s

as most of you probably know, ASCAP has really been cracking down on
websites that contain mp3s, so it's hard to find good ones on the web
these days. so the best place i know of right now is hotline. go to
www.hotlinesw.com and download the hotline client (for mac or pc), or just
do a search for it at download.com. first thing you should do after you
install it is go into options and give yourself a name, and then give
yourself a tracker (a tracker is just a listing of online servers).
there's a tracker listing at eric's place, which is one of the default
guest servers. then you're ready to rumble. there's a lot of cool features
that you should play with. basically, just be nice to the admins and
they'll be nice to you. queue your downloads. my favorite server for
techno is alterned st8, but you need an account there. the admin is DJ
Vain, and basically you can get an account by just asking for one (and
uploading something decent).

good luck,
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From: "Daniel Kasaj" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) A question?
Date: 27 Jun 1998 00:23:24 +0200


+AD4-I was chekkin that cd out the other day. Would you mind giving a
+AD4-description of the mix?


I myself am not very good with words when it comes to describing
music. The whole CD is mixed in, (no gaps between tracks), it's easy
drum'n'bass, leaning more towards jazzy and ambient kind. Could
compare it to slower Bukem stuff (if he ever went towards jazzy style).
All the tracks are fitted perfectly, yet all are so much different. I
listened to the whole CD three times, mostly when I was studying,
and I fell in love with K+ACY-D's +ACI-High noon+ACI-. I set my player on repeat
for that track and it played like that for almost three hours. I know
that for a fact cause i was talking to a friend over the phone for two
and a half. :) Anyways, I think the CD is very addictive and umm,
it DOES call to me to get other DJ Kicks compilations.

For those who are hearing about this the first time, you can see the
track list and K+ACY-D info on  http://www.stadler.org/KruderDorfmeister/

Daniel
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From: Aronne J Merrelli <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) Re: orbital-digest V2 #93
Date: 26 Jun 1998 18:37:48 -0400 (EDT)


Excerpts from mail: 26-Jun-98 (orbital) Re: orbital-diges.. by [e-mail]
> as most of you probably know, ASCAP has really been cracking down on
> websites that contain mp3s, so it's hard to find good ones on the web

well, only websites that contain mp3s that are copied material from CDs,
there is nothing illegal about the mp3 format in and of itself.
Check http://www.kosmic.org for music distributed via mp3 that is
completely legal. There are a lot of other musicians on the Net
that distribute music this way...


Regards,
    -Aronne


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From: "Benjamin Szabo" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) detroit is my mecca
Date: 26 Jun 1998 18:07:22 PDT


hey orbitalheads,

jus chekkin if anyones goin to black metropolis at the anchorage in
brooklyn tomorrow. the lineup? includes atkins, carl craig, stacy
pullen, kenny larkin, malik. nuff said. see ya there.

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From: "[e-mail]" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) detroit is my mecca
Date: 26 Jun 1998 20:02:59 -0700


I am not going, but I wish I was you lucky bastard.  Please tell me how
it comes out as Detroit is also my mecca and Carl Craig is my allah. :)


.MatthewFord.

Benjamin Szabo wrote:
>
> hey orbitalheads,
>
> jus chekkin if anyones goin to black metropolis at the anchorage in
> brooklyn tomorrow. the lineup? includes atkins, carl craig, stacy
> pullen, kenny larkin, malik. nuff said. see ya there.
>
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From: Frederic Fournier <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) FSOL
Date: 27 Jun 1998 12:34:17 -0400 (EDT)


On Thu, 25 Jun 1998, trent 242 x wrote:

I agree that Dead Cities is real cool...

> we have explosive....
> sounds sooo much cooler when not coming through MTV's AMP...

Be sure to check out the We Have Explosive remix CD, it's real nice, they
take the we have explosive track and remix it to give it the feel of
other tracks from Dead Cities, for a real weird result... I recommenc
listening a lot to Dead Cities until you are very familiar with it for
the best enjoyment.

Reminds me that I have to reborrow it from my friend for
emmpeethreerizing4anfsolceedeearr purposes... :)

Derf

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From: Frederic Fournier <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) mp3 walkman... PSYCH!
Date: 27 Jun 1998 12:45:51 -0400 (EDT)



Just seen that in July's Wired magazine fetish section...

--------
COPYCAT

Itworks like a walkman, but the tiny mp man is a portable player for
music downloade from the Net. Rigged for about 60 minutes of near
CD-Quality sound, mp man collects tunes through your PC with a parallel
cable. But there's the deal: It uses a type of MPEG compression that
makes it easy to trade illegal copies of music on the Net. This is making
the recording industry soil itself with fear, and lawsuits aplenty are
looming. Still, some legal MP3 music is floating around the Web; in time,
this may become the indie-rock distribution channel of choice. mp man:
US$250 to $500. Distributed by Nullsoft: on the Web at www.nullsoft.com/.
--------

Nullsoft are the makers of WinAMP for those who need a reminder.

Personally, I think I'll pass on this since I've already got a nice rig
with my cd burner (U can get blank cd's for about 1$US noname, 1.50$US
for a good brand (I use Kodak)).

Well, anyone who gets to try this, give us some feed back on the list!




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From: Frederic Fournier <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) A question?
Date: 27 Jun 1998 12:49:52 -0400 (EDT)


On Thu, 25 Jun 1998, morpheus wrote:

>
> Hey,
>
> I liked that change of the start button thing that was posted the other day.
> Does anyone know any other cool tricks?  In particular, does anyone know how
> to change the boot up picture for windows?

The bootup picture for windows is a file called logo.sys in the \windows
directory. This file is called .sys but really it's a .bmp so just take
any 320x200 bmp in 256 colors and rename it to logo.sys and overwrite the
one in the windows dir and there you are.



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From: "Wouter Hermans" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) mp3 walkman... PSYCH!
Date: 27 Jun 1998 20:35:41 +0200


>Itworks like a walkman, but the tiny mp man is a portable player for
>music downloade from the Net. Rigged for about 60 minutes of near
>CD-Quality sound, mp man collects tunes through your PC with a parallel

<snippeldesnips>
>US$250 to $500. Distributed by Nullsoft: on the Web at www.nullsoft.com/.
>--------
>Personally, I think I'll pass on this since I've already got a nice rig
>with my cd burner (U can get blank cd's for about 1$US noname, 1.50$US
>for a good brand (I use Kodak)).

hmmm i have a discman, but i'm interesting in getting me one of these
because - although i have a sony with 10sec esp - i still hear shocks
because i have eps
turned off (it sucks electricity like a toaster).  this mp-man is
shock-free, smaller, and you can carry files with it.. 64mb is max i
think...  it's
too expensive for now...

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From: Frederic Fournier <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) mp3 walkman... PSYCH!
Date: 27 Jun 1998 20:09:32 -0400 (EDT)


On Sat, 27 Jun 1998, Wouter Hermans wrote:

> hmmm i have a discman, but i'm interesting in getting me one of these
> because - although i have a sony with 10sec esp - i still hear shocks
> because i have eps
> turned off (it sucks electricity like a toaster).  this mp-man is
> shock-free, smaller, and you can carry files with it.. 64mb is max i
> think...  it's
> too expensive for now...

Battery consumption in discman has been cut drastically in the last two
years... My Panasonic of two years and a half ago could last about three
hours on a pair of NiCd batteries, and my new Sony lasts a good 6 hours
with ESP, and a bit more without though I've never cared to turn it off
since with two pairs of batteries I have far more than enough for one day.

If you want portable files, get a Syquest SparQ, 200$US for the drive
with one 1giga disc, and 100$US for a 3-pack of 1giga discs. Why someone
would want to use such a drive capacity thru a parallel port eludes me
though... you can't do more than about 300 - 350k per second!

blah blah blah


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From: "Wouter Hermans" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) are we here video
Date: 28 Jun 1998 04:41:38 +0200


hi

i just saw the last bits of the video of massive attack's "sly" from the
album "protection"...  it contains some bits from the "are we here?" by
p&p..  who was first? :)

...or was it just all a dream?

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Subject: (orbital) Please!
Date: 28 Jun 1998 00:11:46 EDT


Can someone just tell me if they are reading this message. I have gotten
return emails that have not gotten through. Thank you. Later.


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From: Elliot Bancroft <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) Please!
Date: 28 Jun 1998 03:36:55 -0700 (PDT)








>
> Can someone just tell me if they are reading this message. I have
gotten
> return emails that have not gotten through. Thank you. Later.
>

Yes I am reading this message

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From: "Mehul Parekh" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) cdr probs.
Date: 28 Jun 1998 13:03:57 PDT


When I put a cdr in my computer, it is not recognized.  I recently got a
cd w/ some music on it, but I cannot get my computer to read it at all.
Is there a some patch that needs to be installed?
Help!

                               The Mehul


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From: lysergic maximus <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) looking for links...
Date: 28 Jun 1998 15:33:55 -0500


sorry about the massive crosspost, i'm a bad person deep down in side at
times...

i've just revamped my website and am asking for those of you with
interesting websites to email your url to me and i'll put it into my nifty
little rotating random link section...  i appreciate it...

also, any feedback on the sites new look and content is appreciated...

my apologies again for the crosspost...

lysergic





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From: "=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Joona_P=F6yh=F6nen?=" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) TheDj.com
Date: 29 Jou 1998 05:55:55 PST


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From: "Dr. Killpatient" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) TheDj.com
Date: 28 Jun 1998 17:17:36 -0700


Joona P=F6yh=F6nen wrote:
>=20
> Very good real-audio site covering every
> aspect of music in the world...I personally
> like it and if you haven=B4t checked this one out,
> be sure to do so!!!!!  at http://www.thedj.com

That site sucks bad! They don't know jack shit about what
they are trying to catagorize into genres and play, they
have spread themselves out much to thin, covering every
genre that they could think of.
A good example of how lame they are is their "trance" channel.
I have tried listening for hours and hours without hearing
one song that could be classified as trance!
What they play on there is songs from compilation albums
that happen to contain the word "trance"
For example "Trance Atlantic Express" or "Logic Trance 2"
neither of which have any music that someone into trance would
actually consider trance! lame, just plain lame
and very corporate to boot
I won't even tell you which site I would reccommend,
because many of you are probably sick or hearing it!
paul


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From: "[e-mail]" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) TheDj.com
Date: 28 Jun 1998 18:36:13 -0700


Come on matey, tell me!

.MatthewFord.

Dr. Killpatient wrote:
> and very corporate to boot
> I won't even tell you which site I would reccommend,
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From: Andy Jackson <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) Re: Kraftwerk Pick
Date: 29 Jun 1998 09:39:57 GMT


To Ben Knowles;

For a good impression of their sound, but with a more modern
approach, start with 'The Mix' - it's a collection of 90s reworks of
their best stuff. After that, it's time to go and find the real deal.
Start with Trans-Europe Express or The Man Machine, and then head
along to Computerworld and Electric Cafe. After that you might want
to try out some of the earlier (but no less absorbing) stuff -
Autobahn and Radiactivity. Ralf and Florian was the earliest thing
that really bears any resemblance to what we now think of as
Kraftwerk - before that is pretty avant-garde ambience and 'musique
concrete'. Worth seeking out are the 12" singles of Tour De France
and Radioactivity (the William Orbit remix is the work of a genius
remixing other genii).

This is all pretty humble opinion stuff, but I guarantee that if you
care about Electronic music you will love these albums - and bear in
mind that most of the sounds you hear were heard for the first time
on these albums - when you hear them today on other people's work,
say a prayer of thanksgiving. Without Kraftwerk there would be no
Orbital - I truly believe that.

Andy Jackson

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From: Morey Gamble <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) Re: orbital-digest V2 #93
Date: 29 Jun 1998 14:27:02 -0400




[e-mail] wrote:

> re: where to find mp3s
>
> as most of you probably know, ASCAP has really been cracking down on
> websites that contain mp3s, so it's hard to find good ones on the web
> these days. so the best place i know of right now is hotline. go to
> www.hotlinesw.com and download the hotline client (for mac or pc), or just
> do a search for it at download.com. first thing you should do after you
> install it is go into options and give yourself a name, and then give
> yourself a tracker (a tracker is just a listing of online servers).
> there's a tracker listing at eric's place, which is one of the default
> guest servers. then you're ready to rumble. there's a lot of cool features
> that you should play with. basically, just be nice to the admins and
> they'll be nice to you. queue your downloads. my favorite server for
> techno is alterned st8, but you need an account there. the admin is DJ
> Vain, and basically you can get an account by just asking for one (and
> uploading something decent).

    Doh, you beat me to it.. There's also one that I've found a lot of good
stuff on called 'Lost in the Jungle', although it's (surprise!) jungle only.
The one I'm using the most is called 'Aurora Borealis' but i don't think it's
listed on any trackers at the moment. If it is, check it out.





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From: "Henry Cooke" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) WAP100
Date: 30 Jun 1998 00:08:47 +0100


Hi all,

I bought the WAP100 single today (the compilation from a bunch of artists on
Warp, for those that don't know ;) ), and I really liked it. I' haven't
heard much of the work of the artists on it, except for AFX and Jimi Tenor,
who I *love*, but good things had been said on this list about some of the
others, mostly Boards of Canada and Autechre, so I got it to see what they
were like as well as to sample the rest of the Warp artists work. The only
tracks I didn't like were the last few which were a bit hard for my mellow
tastes. How do the tracks on the CD relate to the other works of the
artists? I've heard Autechre have a hard sound in some tracks...?

Cheers,
Henry



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From: Frederic Fournier <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) Jean-Michel Jarre
Date: 29 Jun 1998 19:23:00 -0400 (EDT)



I am looking for someone who'd have Jarre's Rendez-Vous lp to trade in
mp3. I have lots of techno stuff, including every other Jarre lp.


Derf

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Subject: (orbital) dol-lop
Date: 30 Jou 1998 16:24:56 PST


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b21lIG9mIGhpcyB0cmFja3MNCmFuZCBoZSBpcyBHT09EISEhISEhDQpBbnkgb3RoZXIgYXJ0
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From: "Price, Steve A" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) Orbital New Album - Release Date - what a bloody nightmare
Date: 30 Jun 1998 19:02:03 +0100


All,

The new Orbital album will be released between September 1998 and
January 1999. There are reasons for this and again its out of Orbitals
control. We may know more in the next few weeks and narrow the date
down.

Thanx

Steve LOOPZ Price
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From: Morey Gamble <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) Re: orbital-digest V2 #93
Date: 30 Jun 1998 14:34:27 -0400




> >     Doh, you beat me to it.. There's also one that I've found a lot of good
> > stuff on called 'Lost in the Jungle', although it's (surprise!) jungle only.
> > The one I'm using the most is called 'Aurora Borealis' but i don't think it's
> > listed on any trackers at the moment. If it is, check it out.
>
> Aurora Borealis? I think that is a track by Astral Projection.
>

    Definitely possible.. I haven't heard too much Astral Projection. This is just
the name of the site..

-Morey





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From: brain Lorraine <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) Orbital New Album - Release Date - what a bloody nightmare
Date: 30 Jun 1998 15:39:11 -0400


what? booo! RIOT RIOT RIOT!! TIP THEM CARS OVER!!!!! >:P hehehe j/k

> The new Orbital album will be released between September 1998 and
> January 1999. There are reasons for this and again its out of Orbitals
> control. We may know more in the next few weeks and narrow the date

--

peace,
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From: [e-mail] (trent 242 x)
Subject: (orbital) skinny puppy
Date: 29 Jun 1998 22:54:02 -0400


does anyone know of any skinny puppy remix albums? pref. mixes from "the
process". and does anyone know of any good techno/trance bands from the
US?

Waylon




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From: [e-mail] (trent 242 x)
Date: 29 Jun 1998 22:51:03 -0400


>><hi

i just saw the last bits of the video of massive attack's "sly" from the
album "protection"...  it contains some bits from the "are we here?" by
p&p..  who was first? :)>><><

Orbital was first.

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From: Frederic Fournier <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) WOOHOO!!! TRALALERE TRALALERE!!
Date: 30 Jun 1998 18:24:16 -0400 (EDT)




Happy happy happy, joy joy joy! AUTECHRE ARE COMING TO MONTREAL THIS
SUMMER! WOOHOO! Man I'm so happy! Only Orbital or Underworld coming could
make me more joyful! It erases all the sadness that I couldn't go see
Prodigy last week (dumbasses came on St-Jean Babptiste, which is to
Quebecers what 4thjuly is to americans! - Only Orbital, Underworld or
Autechre could have made me miss the beer, the fireworks, and the
brawling against darth-vader clad, lacrymogenic gas tossing policemen!)

So yipee! Anyone around here in Montreal, Quebec, Toronto or Ottawa,
mark down july 31st as a day of great joy!

....come to think of it, maybe they'll go to toronto and/or detroit too, get
informed...

WOOHOO!

Derf

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From: "Aimee Couture" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) WOOHOO!!! TRALALERE TRALALERE!!
Date: 30 Jun 1998 15:45:43 -0700


**
So yipee! Anyone around here in Montreal, Quebec, Toronto or Ottawa, mark down july 31st as a day of great joy!
....come to think of it, maybe they'll go to toronto and/or detroit too, get  informed...
**

DAMN YOU. 1 August. Autechre with Richie Hawtin and others. Toronto. FUCKIN 19+ show. and no glowsticks allowed... I gotta flier at Hullabaloo.. BrAiN you recovered yet?? God we gotta do that again boi.. maybe for the one in October you can stay at my place so it's easier.. now that my parents have met you guys.. Hehe.. guys.. brian isn't have as insane as you may think ;) except while trying to find a place you can park overnight.. but hullabaloo was amazing.. still figuring out which dj's I saw.... joint review from BrAiN n Aimee comin soon :) :) Brace yourselves :)

"THIS IS FOR ALL THE WHISTLE HATERS ON THE ORBITAL LIST!!" *BLOW* *BLOW* *BLOW* hehhe... flaaaame away.

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From: Frederic Fournier <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) WOOHOO!!! TRALALERE TRALALERE!!
Date: 30 Jun 1998 18:51:32 -0400 (EDT)


On Tue, 30 Jun 1998, Aimee Couture wrote:

> DAMN YOU. 1 August. Autechre with Richie Hawtin and others. Toronto.
> FUCKIN 19+ show. and no glowsticks allowed...

Well I don't know your age but if its for adults only then in Montreal it
won' be 19+ but 18+... And maybe it won't even be age-restricted anyway.
If you plan on coming with friends or anything, I'll be with a few
people too, maybe we can arrange to meet? Anyways... Just contact me if
you want to arrange something! (And anyone listening, same thing 4 u!)

Hey I learn this just on the day that I got Cichli suite, Anti ep and
Basscadet ep, what a great Autechre day!


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From: "Brandon Ludwig" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (orbital) skinny puppy
Date: 30 Jun 1998 19:03:52 -0400


The only one I've ever seen are 'Hyms of the warlock' - it's not really a
remix album, just covers by other industrial bands...As far as remixes-you'd
hafta buy the singles, they have remixes of their songs. The Process, being
their last, prolly won't have any remixes...

Brandon


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does anyone know of any skinny puppy remix albums? pref. mixes from "the
process". and does anyone know of any good techno/trance bands from the
US?

Waylon




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From: "Daniel Kasaj" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) just a qiuck note
Date: 01 Jul 1998 07:13:10 +0200


I'm off to the seaside until the rest of the week.
Now you guys have a great time here...

go Croatia

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