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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: IMPACT USA 12 INCH
Date: 01 Jan 1997 19:12:08 GMT


>p.s. weren't you the one who likes vynils more than CDs...say you're not
>     make my year!!!

Usually my Orbital and other Intelligent techno is bought on CD, my
other musical intrests are strictly underground, hence only available
on vinyl anyway. But Vinyl is better than CD.

happy new year (personally I cannot believe it's 1997)

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: Satan EPs!
Date: 01 Jan 1997 19:13:15 GMT


>> The "Industry Standard" version of Satan is okay (I suppose), as far =
is it
>> could being under 4 mins.
>
>Why would they play a short version in concert?  Pressed for time?

to play on the radio when this single gets to number 1 in the UK
charts...actually that would be a nightmare, I hope they never break
into the top ten, 'cos then eveyone will like them and they will no
longer be "my band"...I'm sure you all know what I mean.
The underground is the safest place for music.


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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: Are We Here single
Date: 01 Jan 1997 19:13:19 GMT


>So I'd be paying about 12 dollars for the one Orbital mix I don't have. =
 Hmmm,
>maybe I'll just wait for the Satan EPs for now.

It's nice, but I would not fork out for it knowing what it sounds
like. Satan single is strongly recommended.

>Thanks for the info.  When Steve said that the Criminal Justice Bill? =
mix
>was the best, I believed it!  But then I remembered the discography that
>mentioned [intentionally silent] or something to that effect.  Jeez!  :P

yeah, you know on a CD you can tell what part of it has been written
on and which part hasn't (if it's not written on it's more shiny),
well you can see the track 'cos it's a ring that's more shiny than the
rest.
The artwork is nice though, along with the photo's of the "space
babies" you might have seen them already in the US version.
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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: CDNOW (Radiccio US Version?
Date: 01 Jan 1997 19:13:25 GMT


>Yes, there were four tracks spread across the various UK formats of the
>Radiccio EP, but the UK CD-single to which he was referring only had =
three of
>them (all but Naked And The Dub).

Radiccio was re-issued on Internal records in this country last
year...opps...sorry, in 1995 (I CANNOT get used to this 1997 joke)
on a 3 track CD single. Only the FFRR 12"s contained "The Naked And
The Dub"

take it east
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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: naked and the.....
Date: 01 Jan 1997 19:13:29 GMT


>I haven't heard the comp album but i must say the Naked And The Dub is =
one
>of the best fucking songs i've ever heard.get it.

agreed, about 12mins, and all of it's stormin'
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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: Halcyon
Date: 01 Jan 1997 14:41:25 -0500

In a message dated 96-12-30 17:29:29 EST, you write:

<< Halcyon is on the Raddicio EP and the further working "Halcyon +On+On" is
 on the Brown Album.
  >>
Steve!!  Congrats!!  You spelled Halcyon right!!  =P

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: other music
Date: 01 Jan 1997 22:16:00 GMT


>As we're all giving lists of other techno bands we like, why not also =
give
>other genres?

almost anything that's electronic really, but especially hard
trance/techno, happy hardcore and hardcore techno with a bit of gabba.

I started listening to Orbital before I got into all that. Orbital
were the first electronic producers I got into, understandable why I
switched from being an indie kid to a raver.

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From: Shaun Rader <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: Satan EPs! (and Popularity)
Date: 01 Jan 1997 14:25:35 -0800

[e-mail] wrote:

> to play on the radio when this single gets to number 1 in the UK
> charts...actually that would be a nightmare, I hope they never break
> into the top ten, 'cos then eveyone will like them and they will no
> longer be "my band"...I'm sure you all know what I mean.
> The underground is the safest place for music.

I don't live over there in the UK but I get the impression that everyone
loves Orbital over there all ready.  There are many good reasons I want
Orbital to become popular over here:

1) Maybe I'll see more interviews of Orbital on TV (right now I've seen one)
2) It should be easier to find their stuff
3) I might start hearing some good music on the radio for once
4) I'll see more of their videos on TV
5) I might even see an hour concert on MTV (like you guys get in the UK!)

The downsides to Orbital becoming popular:

1) The shows will be filled with more people who are just going to be cool
2) Ticket prices will go up
3) The venues Orbital plays will be the size of the Albert Hall

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: other music
Date: 01 Jan 1997 19:00:42 -0500

Hi....hoping someone can help me out....specifically someonein Los
Angeles....I am here for a few days and want to know the best record store
for techno music??!! I am here just thru the weekend....help!! Thanx,
                                            Alan([e-mail])

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From: lysergic ad nauseum <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: CDNOW (Radiccio US Version?
Date: 01 Jan 1997 20:03:10 -0500 (EST)

my $.02 on the radiccio single...  i have the japanese version of the single
and the track listing is as follows:

                halcyon (edit)
                halcyon
                deeper
                the naked and the dead
                sunday
                the naked and the dub


what other formats have Deeper on them?

                                                -lysergic


At 07:13 PM 1/1/97 GMT, you wrote:
>
>>Yes, there were four tracks spread across the various UK formats of the
>>Radiccio EP, but the UK CD-single to which he was referring only had three of
>>them (all but Naked And The Dub).
>
>Radiccio was re-issued on Internal records in this country last
>year...opps...sorry, in 1995 (I CANNOT get used to this 1997 joke)
>on a 3 track CD single. Only the FFRR 12"s contained "The Naked And
>The Dub"
>
>take it east
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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: Satan EPs! (and Popularity)
Date: 01 Jan 1997 20:10:31 -0500

>I don't live over there in the UK but I get the impression that everyone
>loves Orbital over there all ready.  There are many good reasons I want
>Orbital to become popular over her

But worst of all, there music will start to be overplayed just like
everything else on the radio.  It will no longer be exciting to hear
something from Orbital.  I don't want Orbital to become everyother band.
 They have got to stay the way they are.  Those ar just my thoughts on
Orbital.

Keep the Rave Alive
Morpheus

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From: Shaun Rader <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: I need advice
Date: 01 Jan 1997 13:14:49 -0800

On Tuesday, December 31, 1996 3:08 PM, [e-mail] wrote:

> Thanx but I was aware of that.  I was talking about singles and shit.  Which
> are the best ones?  I'm going to add to my collection for a new years
> resolution.

I would get Radiccio first so you can hear the original Halcyon (as well
as a couple of excellent b-side tunes).

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Amoeba and other stores
Date: 01 Jan 1997 20:30:18 -0800

Trent wrote:
>Hey Ryan, I live in San Diego.  How far is the Amoeba store from here (two
>hours?).  Yes and let me know the address so I can go down there next time I
>go to West Hollywood (will be going there tomorrow actually at the Nichiren
>Shoshu Temple).
        Errrm, actually rather far from Hollywood.  By "Bay area" I meant
San Francisco... but I live down here in Riverside, and have found the
addresses of a few "collectors" stores, none of which I've been to yet.
here they are:
Atomic Records, 3818 W/ Magnolia Blvd.  Burbank, CA, 91505   (818) 848- 7090
Amoeba Music, 2455 Telegraph , Berkeley, CA  [phone]    great store,
my best friend goes to
        school up there, they have everything, papa brittle albums(hard to
find in the us),videos,etc
Siren Disc  5850 West 3rd Street, Suite 155, Hollywood, CA [phone]
[e-mail] -- they
        even list Orbital specifically in their ad!
Groove Time Music Brokers  643 West Baseline St. San Bernardino, CA 92410
Rhino Records 1720 Westwood Blvd. West LA, CA 92004 [phone] -- the
local branch in my town
        got the Radiccio and other singles for me, give them a try....

so there you have it, I'm going in soon myself
Ryan



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From: Shaun Rader <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: Are We Here single
Date: 01 Jan 1997 13:45:09 -0800

[e-mail] wrote:

> It's nice, but I would not fork out for it knowing what it sounds
> like. Satan single is strongly recommended.

If I can find it...

> yeah, you know on a CD you can tell what part of it has been written
> on and which part hasn't (if it's not written on it's more shiny),
> well you can see the track 'cos it's a ring that's more shiny than the
> rest.
> The artwork is nice though, along with the photo's of the "space
> babies" you might have seen them already in the US version.

I see, they didn't even record silence huh?  It's just a blank track.  So
do you guys all skip this track or play it anyway ('cause it's Orbital :).  Is
the "Space Babies" the picture of the little toy in the mirror?  The photo
doesn't seem to have a title on the back of my CD.


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From: Geoffrey Elgey <[e-mail]>
Subject: 1996 Review (long)
Date: 02 Jan 1997 16:23:14 +0000

G'day,

My summation of the music of 1996 (all IMHO):

In general, 1996 was a year of disappointment. Many of my favourite bands
and artists just didn't come up with the goods, quality-wise. This is not
altogether a bad thing - it has led to a re-evaluation of which music gets
my hard-earned $$$, and thus allowed me to discover other, exciting music.
The despair over the stagnation of one artist leads to the joy of finding
another fulfilling their creative potential.

I will start with what I thought were the best releases of the year, and
some which should have been good, but were not. I'll only include two that I
thought stank. Rememeber that the following are just my humble opinions, so
please keep any flaming private, rather than to the list(s) in general.

*** Good Stuff, Gimme All Your Good Stuff ***

1. Orbital -"In Sides"
What can I say? The brothers Hartnoll put out their best effort yet.
Beautiful melody lines and dark & rumbling bass. An album full of cinematic
soundscapes and lush production. Make sure that you get the American
version, which includes the full 28-minute version of "The Box" on a bonus
disc. Can't wait for the live 'Satan' EP's.

2. Underworld - "Second Toughest In The Infants"
Only just pipped by Orbital, due to the Hartnoll's superior production
quality. Underworld are experiencing some well-deserved fame at the moment,
thanks to 'Born Slippy' - watch for the backlash to begin. This album opens
with the towering 'Juanita/Kiteless/To Dream of Love', and proceeds on an
eclectic path that includes jungle ('Banstyle'), techno ('Rowla'), blues
guitar loops ('Blueski') and the mighty 'Pearl's Girl'.

3. Stereolab - "Emporer Tomato Ketchup" - futuristic retro at its best.

4. Paradise Motel - "Still Life" - New Oz band. Think Bad Seeds meets Twin
Peaks.

5. Future Sound Of London - "Dead Cities" - Dougans & Cobain explore the
darker side of ambient. Love the flutey bits on 'My Kingdom'.

6. Red House Painters - "Songs For a Blue Guitar" - Mark Kozelek sings of
pain (again), practises his 5-minute guitar solos, and even manages to cover
both McCartney ('Silly Love Songs') and Yes ('Long Distance Runaround').
Better than expected, some wonderful meloncholia, and beautful guitar work.
Tip for other bands: just follow Mr K's guitar histrionics on the 12-minute
'Make Like Paper' if you want to get dropped from your label.

7. Crowded House - "Recurring Dream" - It may be a compilation, but it still
stands head & shoulders above a lot of contemporary releases. No one writes
a better tune than Neil Finn.  The break-up of this band was sad, but what a
body of work they left behind, as evidenced by this essential compilation.

8. "Wipeout 2097" game soundtrack - Jam packed with fast & furious beats all
the way through, with FSOL/Fluke/Chemical Brothers/Underworld/Leftfield.
Will leave you bruised and scarred, but wanting more.

9. Rachel's - "The Sea and The Bells" - avant garde chamber music that
demands high rotation.


*** Disappointed A Few People ***

Pet Shop Boys - "Bilingual" - In all fairness, this isn't a bad record. It's
just that the Boys are capable of *much* better - witness the excellent
B-sides to the latest singles. The PSB still have that creative spark, and
will surely put out a killer next time (for I love them dearly).

Tori Amos - "Boys For Pele" - Tori has a beautiful voice, and a piano
playing style to kill for. On "Boys For Pele", she manages to hide both.
Lotsa half-whispers, cracked words, banging harpsichords, ridiculous lyrics.
I hope that this album was some sort of cathartic moment that allowed Ms A
to shed some demons, and that the next release will allow the actual to
match the possible.

Beloved - "X" - 1990's 'Happiness' was one of my favourites of that year,
full of bright melodies and Jon Marsh's sultry vocals. But like the Pet Shop
Boys above, this release just didn't seem to fulfill its expectation. Jon
Marsh has written some of the best tunes of the last ten years ('The Sun
Rising', 'Time After Time'), and this album has its fair share of the great
('Deliver Me'), but it fails to rise beyond its standard 4-to-the-floor
house sound. Hopefully better is to come (for I treasure The Beloved as well).

R.E.M. - "New Adventures in Hi-Fi" - It may only be a curio of life on the
road and studio out-takes, but Stipe and his band of merry men have produced
consistently great music since the 80's. This should have been better. At
least they have their mega-dollar recording deal to comfort them, for I
nearly put them into the batch below....


*** It's All Over Now ***

Cure - "Wild Mood Swings" - in which Cuddly Bob & Co become hapless water
buffaloes, stuck in the mud of mediocrity. Dull, soulless pastiche of their
former glory days.

Cocteau Twins - "Milk and Kisses" - ditto.



My humble opinions for the year just gone. Let's hope that 1997 promises a
cornucopia of musical delights.

Cheers,
Geoff


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From: tsee <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Amoeba and other stores
Date: 01 Jan 1997 22:28:47 -0800

>        Errrm, actually rather far from Hollywood.  By "Bay area" I meant
>San Francisco... but I live down here in Riverside, and have found the
>addresses of a few "collectors" stores, none of which I've been to yet.
>here they are:
>Atomic Records, 3818 W/ Magnolia Blvd.  Burbank, CA, 91505   (818) 848- 7090
>Amoeba Music, 2455 Telegraph , Berkeley, CA  [phone]    great store,
>my best friend goes to
>        school up there, they have everything, papa brittle albums(hard to
>find in the us),videos,etc
>Siren Disc  5850 West 3rd Street, Suite 155, Hollywood, CA [phone]
>[e-mail] -- they
>        even list Orbital specifically in their ad!
>Groove Time Music Brokers  643 West Baseline St. San Bernardino, CA 92410
>Rhino Records 1720 Westwood Blvd. West LA, CA 92004 [phone] -- the
>local branch in my town
>        got the Radiccio and other singles for me, give them a try....
>
>so there you have it, I'm going in soon myself
>Ryan
>

Thanks a-lot Ryan, I just bought four CD's yesterday so I'll have to wait
for next paycheck to go checkout Rhino Records :-).

Trenton W. See
Statistical Analyst, UCSD Medical Group
7071 Convoy Court, Suite 301
Kearny Mesa, CA 92111

Work email:  [e-mail]
Home email:  [e-mail]


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From: "Lazlo Nibble" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: CDNOW (Radiccio US Version?
Date: 02 Jan 1997 00:44:29 -0700 (MST)

> my $.02 on the radiccio single...  i have the japanese version of the single
> and the track listing is as follows [...]
> what other formats have Deeper on them?

It's supposedly on the German "Radiccio 2" CD5, though I've never seen that
one.  It's also on a number of formats for "Chime", where it originally
appeared as a B-side . . .

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::: Lazlo ([e-mail]; http://www.swcp.com/lazlo)

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: I need advice
Date: 02 Jan 1997 02:50:17 -0500

>I would get Radiccio first so you can hear the original Halcyon (as well
>as a couple of excellent b-side tunes).

Ok thanx, but my only source for Orbital EP's is CDnow at the moment.  Where
I live, the stores don't carry EP's and Orbital stuff is pretty hard to find
because it sells out to fast.  Cdnow doesn't have Radiccio, I looked they
only have Halcyon.  So...I might just pick up the Satan EP.
Thanx for the info anyways.
C ya.  Keep the Rave Alive.
Morpheus


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From: [e-mail]
Subject:  Satan EPs!
Date: 02 Jan 1997 03:13:29 -0500

I am wondering how many tracks the Satan EP has.  The one at CDnow only has
two.  Should I get it from them or should I look around?  I need advice for
my purchase.
Thanx
Morpheus

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: orbital Digest V2 #128
Date: 02 Jan 1997 01:02:07 -0800

Shaun Rader wrote:

>Funny you mention being one of the first 25.. I was the FIRST on the first
>night show.  I got to the gate at about 4PM and I didn't see a line form until
>7:30!!  I was a bit surprised.  I really thought there would be people lining
>up for hours to see them.  I thought there was a cult following or something,
>not the 'party' type that I mostly saw.
>
>Did you go to both nights?  The crowd on the first night was far superior to
>the second night, but I think Orbital played much better on the second night.
>Go figure

Yeah... actually we got there about 7:15 or so, but we had to walk down to
a burger king or something to meet some friends....  I only had a chance to
go the second night.... why was the first night's crowd better?  I thought
ours was pretty club oriented (although I know almost nothing about "real"
ravers, as I've never been to a real one, only a few small clubs....
although I plan to rectify this grevious error shortly!), but with a
surprising number of extras like people over 35, some obviously "preppy"
people, etc.  Most everyone seemed to enjoy it, and I saw an interview with
orbital (at the KROQ acoustic christmas) where they said they absolutely
loved both crowds.  How many songs did they play for the encore the first
night?  I seem to remember them saying something about since they liked us
so much they'd play a longer encore, and I know it was at least two
songs....  it was funny, the next day I heard Tami from KROQ say after they
played "The Box" that her and other KROQ djs had gone, and when Orbital
start into Halcyon they all started yelling "it's Richard Blade's song!!"
because he plays it every day at the end of his segment.  So some of the
people around them looked at them real funny and asked if they'd won their
tickets from KROQ.  hee hee.
Ryan



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From: [e-mail]
Subject: criminal justice bill...
Date: 02 Jan 1997 01:25:09 -0800

Hmmmm.... they didn't write on the cd for this one?  I'm in the US, so I
don't know much about the Criminal Justice bill, only what I saw in this
month's mixmag...(i'd love to have someone sum it up for me, if they have
to time).... but doesn't it basically make hell for raves?  Am I completely
wrong, or is the remix a comment on that?  Just wondering......
Ryan



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From: [e-mail]
Subject: orbital @ acoustic christmas
Date: 02 Jan 1997 02:01:24 -0800

Mr. Disco worte:
>Yeah, Matt Pinfield had a 2 minute talk with them from backstage and
>they showed it on 120 Minutes last night.  I must say, Orbital was
>the last band I expected to see as part of a lineup for an "acoustic
>Christmas Concert." :)
>
>What songs did they play?
>
>Mr d

    Odd that you say they were the last band you expected to see at an
acoustic christmas show.... actually, last year they had to start calling
it the "_almost_ acoustic" show... and this year, when they introduced the
band, the announcer says "...and this part of the show is definitely not
acoustic, if you know what I mean".  But, anyway, the songs that they
played were The Box (almost obligatory, as this is the only of their songs
the station plays in regular rotation, but still a blazing version), then
Satan, then a wonderful version of Halcyon, with the bon jovi and belinda
carlisle samples (also almost obligatory, as the station has been using
halcyon as background music during announcements and the like for a good
two years).  The broadcast was lacking a bit of the bottom end, but still
sounds wonderful.  They did an interview right afterwards, and the Dj
actually knew that they'd been around since about '88, better then the
other one I heard on a syndicated show that said they were one of the best
"new" bands around!
Ryan



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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: orbital Digest V2 #126
Date: 02 Jan 1997 02:01:30 -0800

Duncan Price wrote:
>  I think the evil, commercialized MTV has been playing more chemical
>brothers (as well as orbital) videos due to their (new?) show AMP.  The
>videos I've seen off of amp include FSOL's "My kingdom", Chemical
>Brother's "Setting Sun", and Orbital's "The Box".
>  If you folks haven't seen AMP you "gots ta" see it.  Videos by The
>Prodigy, Aphex Twin, FSOL, Orbital, Chemical brothers, Underworld, Cj
>Bolland, Tricky, and etc....
>  It comes on at 2:00 am (times are eastern) friday NIGHT, and 1:00 am
>Saturday NIGHT....Check it out.

   Definitely check it out!... actally, the times stay the same in the
PAcific time zone.... Although you say that the "commercialized" MTV is
just playing their videos because of the show, I actually appreciate MTV
action's.  I mean, they could easily have set on their haunches and just
kept to their two breadwinners, "alternative" and rap, but instead they
halved the time of the shows devoted to these genres and added new shows
like AMP.  And although they don't play nearly as much variety in their
techno videos during mainstream hours (I've only seen Firestarter, the Box,
and Setting Sun), they'd probably freak out a lot of people if they played
Aphex twin, FSOL's video (forget which song, but its the one with the
computerized blobs floating in various locations in London), or the Ken
Ishii video which is done with japanese animation. I mean, they wouldn't be
able to handle a more abstract video like "on" or the FSOL one, sto they'd
likely just change channels.  And, when it all comes down to it, it MTV
wasn't making their money during the normal hours, we wouldn't be able to
see the quality music on AMP.  So although I don't watch much during the
day, I appreciate their overhaul of their shows, and I am definitely gonna
miss AMP when I go back to the dorms, where I don't have cable, or even a
tv... a friend does, though, so I'm taping the episodes!  YAY!!!
Ryan



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From: [e-mail]
Subject: magwatch '97, radio fab fm
Date: 02 Jan 1997 04:55:41 -0500

Happy NoYear (as you Americans seem to say).

 Latest sightings of Orbital include an 'on tour' article in the latest Vox,
a 'year in review' feature in Mixmag (which puts Orbital as 3rd best album of
the year behind Underworld (hmmm, arguable) and the Fugees (????!), and two
Singles of the Week (in NME and the Maker).

 Taped the live show on R1 yesterday night. Tracklist is Out There Somewhere,
Choice, Lush 3, Girl With..., PETROL, Satan and Chime [Big Ben remix]. Hadn't
heard the new Lush amalgam [see October :O) ] yet [I'd held off buying the
CDs for the twelves, but if these aren't out until next week and the CDs go
up to # 3.99... umm.... oh, better buy the cd's anyway... :O) ] but it's nice
and acidic isn't it?

 Cheers, Paul Mison. http://members.aol.com/pmison/. [e-mail].

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Orbital b-side cd?
Date: 02 Jan 1997 02:20:57 -0800

Anyone know if there's any chance that Orbital might release the extremely
hard to find b-sides (i.e the ones only availible on Japanese or German
versions of a single) on one cd, like what Moby recently did?  I was really
glad to finally get to hear his "thousand", I had to hear what 1,000 bmp
sounds like.... and I know I couldn't have dredged it up on my own.  I know
that there's quite a few awesome b-sides out there - "naked and the dead",
"naked and the dub" (which apparently is vinyl only in america?  I'm
confused!), "analogue test" from the midnight single, and "L.C.1." from the
first satan single are all wonderful in my humble opinion, and I'd love to
hear more b-sides, but I can't seem to unearth the vinyl versions of their
singles, and I know that people who are stuck in more isolated places than
southern california REALLY couldn't get any of them.  I was just wondering
if anyone else would be interested..... maybe Internal would be willing to
do this, if they reissued the radiccio single?  Please lemme know if I'm
the only one who'd like to get ahold of these, but can't....
Ryan



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From: [e-mail]
Subject: questions on singles and British English
Date: 02 Jan 1997 02:40:10 -0800

sorry to write so much, but all I've been able to think about lately is
Orbital...anyway, I just heard of a belfast/wasted single... is this
version of belfast a third version, different than both the "Orbital III"
version and the green album version?  Also, what does the peel sessions
have on it?  Is it basically the british version of "diversions"?  And one
last thing-  I've been reading Mixmag, and they keep talking about
trainspotters..... what exactly is this?  (i fear I've become one, if
they're the people who read all the liner notes and know as much as they
can about bands)
Thanks a lot!
Ryan



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From: Martin Ayrton <[e-mail]>
Subject: DMX, CS1-X, Prophecy and OPUSIII
Date: 02 Jan 1997 12:00:47 +0000

Out of a stack of Christmas / New Year postings;

<< Anyone know anything about Sequencers and Drum Machines by "DMX" I've got
a  DMX sequencer and Drum Machine that I can get for free if I want it.

I may be wrong, but isn't the DMX drum machine and sequencer made
by Oberheim ?   Quite good machines in their day, but a bit old now,
I'm not sure if they are MIDI, or whether the drum machine is based
on samples or analog synthesis (TR808 style).  If it is analog based
then it should be a good start for making dance tunes.

Someone mentioned the CS1-X, an excellent and very blue machine.  A
good entry level synthesiser, *not* analog but for around 600ukp gets
you into making music.  You can also plug in the new Yamaha pocket
sampler and avoid buying a mixing desk etc.  Overall recommended for
anyone starting out, previously it would have cost you around 1500ukp
to get into making tunes.

The Korg Prophecy on the other hand is a massively over hyped, over
priced machine.  Don't get me wrong it does sound excellent, but is
not worth it's asking price for a mono synth.   If it's acoustic
modelling your after look for the Nord Lead or soon to be released
world beater Jupiter 8000.  I'll bet a fiver you'll see a Jupiter
8000 on the next Orbital tour, they already use the monster Jupiter 6.

Some more mention of the sample used from OpusIII. I still maintain
that even if it's credited as OpusIII the acutal sample came from
an acapella album.  The original singer was never located and Opus
III went on to use another vocalist for future releases.

Incidently as this is a bit of a gear posting OpusIII took their
name from an old Moog string synth.

Happy New Year to everyone.

M:)

[-A Cyborgs Eye View-------------------- http://www.u-net.com/~cev ]
| home of....          ( t h e   m o b e u s )                     |
[---------------- http://www.u-net.com/~cev/mobeus ----------------]

 New EP featuring Plasm 604, Klangers & Light-Ship - Cat No:13FKF12V
 Distributed via Flying, *promo's out now*



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From: Daniel Kasaj <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Orbital b-side cd?
Date: 02 Jan 1997 14:36:50 +0100 (MET)

>
>Anyone know if there's any chance that Orbital might release the extremely
>hard to find b-sides (i.e the ones only availible on Japanese or German
>versions of a single) on one cd, like what Moby recently did?  I was really
>glad to finally get to hear his "thousand", I had to hear what 1,000 bmp
>sounds like.... and I know I couldn't have dredged it up on my own.  I know
>that there's quite a few awesome b-sides out there - "naked and the dead",
>"naked and the dub" (which apparently is vinyl only in america?  I'm
>confused!), "analogue test" from the midnight single, and "L.C.1." from the
>first satan single are all wonderful in my humble opinion, and I'd love to
>hear more b-sides, but I can't seem to unearth the vinyl versions of their
>singles, and I know that people who are stuck in more isolated places than
>southern california REALLY couldn't get any of them.  I was just wondering
>if anyone else would be interested..... maybe Internal would be willing to
>do this, if they reissued the radiccio single?  Please lemme know if I'm
>the only one who'd like to get ahold of these, but can't....
>Ryan

You read my mind !!
It would be awesome if Internal released a full length CD with all those
hard-to-find and original versions of the songs... b-sides OR remixes.

...and another thing.
About the Satan CDs, can someone please find the time to list the actual
length of songs ? It's not TOO important, but I'd be a happy camper.

--

   Daniel Kasaj - [e-mail]    URL: http://fly.cc.fer.hr/~leqash
  Home : Borovje 8, Zagreb, CROATIA                    phone - [phone]

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From: Peel Jason <[e-mail]>
Subject: 12" release date
Date: 02 Jan 1997 14:18:00 PST


Curious as to when this is ( UK DATE )
 I've seen the CDs and but for the list would have made a purchase this
very morning.
Asked for the 12"s and was told the release date is the 13.1.97 is this
true.

And another one of those WHY? type questions.  Why? did orbital write
Satan, what is the message behind it. Is it a reflection of the brothers
leanings in life or  there view of fathers . etc.

Answers on the back of a post card please

jason

"  never ever bloody anything ever   " ;)

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From: Aaron Murray <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: not halcyon
Date: 02 Jan 1997 08:59:12 -0600

[e-mail] wrote:
>
> hey!
>
> I picked up Satan Live 1 tooo and free today, they are blinding, I
> love the new Satan, wicked everytime. Impact is dark and grinding,
> warped and blinding. Fantastic.

grrrr! Blockbuster Music sucks! they haven't even heard of the UK
release yet! what idiots! now i have to drive all over the place to find
it.. ugh.. sometimes i wish the brothers were from the states.. it would
be so much easier to find their stuff..

            aaron

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: re:questions on singles and British English
Date: 02 Jan 1997 13:54:14 GMT



> sorry to write so much, but all I've been able to think about lately is
>Orbital...anyway, I just heard of a belfast/wasted single... is this
>version of belfast a third version, different than both the "Orbital III"
>version and the green album version?

Belfast/Wasted is the vocal Belfast - sold to Volume many years ago -
Volume then released it as a single (as they bought the rights).

> Also, what does the peel sessions have on it?  Is it basically the
>british version of "diversions"?

Peel Sessions came out first - Its taken from John Peel Sessions off Radio
1 - features Lush (Euro-Tunnel Diaster)/WalkAbout/Semi-Detached/Attached.
Diversions is Impact USA release with Peel session and some other crap.

>  And one
>last thing-  I've been reading Mixmag, and they keep talking about
>trainspotters..... what exactly is this?

A very popular film to do with Scottish drug taking people :)

Cheers

Steve LOOPZ Price.

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: re:Orbital b-side cd?
Date: 02 Jan 1997 13:50:04 GMT

> I know
>that there's quite a few awesome b-sides out there - "naked and the
>dead", "naked and the dub" (which apparently is vinyl only in america?
Nah...you can get it on the Uk 12 inch of Raddicio (original release).
Where else can u get it? mmmm have to come back to u on that one.

> "analogue test" from the midnight single, and "L.C.1." from the
>first satan single are all wonderful in my humble opinion, and I'd love
>to hear more b-sides, but I can't seem to unearth the vinyl versions of
>their singles, and I know that people who are stuck in more isolated
>places than southern california REALLY couldn't get any of them.

You can get records if u you REALLY want them...it took me years to
collect my ORBITAL stuff ... but thats what its all about to
me....searching and finding a lost track gives me pleasure.

>  I was just wondering
>if anyone else would be interested..... maybe Internal would be willing
>to do this, if they reissued the radiccio single?  Please lemme know if
>I'm the only one who'd like to get ahold of these, but can't....

Raddicio is quite an easy one to get....you need to shop around...try
speaking to people in the Uk who might be able to find it for u ;)

It had been mentioned before all the rare stuff on one cd - I wouldnt like
it as its taken me years to get all the stuff and i know Paul Hartnoll
expressed the same views when i spoke to him last year. After all - thats
the whole point of having rare stuff.

Oh well.

Steve

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From: Aaron Murray <[e-mail]>
Subject: Just for your info..
Date: 02 Jan 1997 09:57:31 -0600

Just to let you all know, i'm housing Lyserg's Orbital interview on my
web site so that it can still be available to all the fans and still let
lyserg get on with developing his site..  there's a link on lyserg's
page to mine at:

http://hudson.idt.net/~lyserg

and my url is:

http://www.iforce.com/amurray/orbital.html

have fun.. they'll be there forever (or so..)

        aaron

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From: Aaron Murray <[e-mail]>
Subject: Oops.. typo
Date: 02 Jan 1997 09:58:32 -0600

oops.. lyserg's page is:

http://hudson.idt.net/~lyserg19

my bad..

        aaron

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: re:Re: Halcyon
Date: 02 Jan 1997 17:31:12 GMT

hehehehe just this once...i always find it hard to spell Moebious as well
;)

Cheers

Steve

----------------------[Reply - Original Message]----------------------

Sent by:[e-mail]
 In a message dated 96-12-30 17:29:29 EST, you write:

<< Halcyon is on the Raddicio EP and the further working "Halcyon +On+On"
is
 on the Brown Album.
  >>
Steve!!  Congrats!!  You spelled Halcyon right!!  =P

=====================================================================

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: re:Re: Satan EPs!
Date: 02 Jan 1997 17:39:37 GMT



>to play on the radio when this single gets to number 1 in the UK
>charts...actually that would be a nightmare, I hope they never break
>into the top ten, 'cos then eveyone will like them and they will no
>longer be "my band"...I'm sure you all know what I mean.
>The underground is the safest place for music.

They are guarenteed TOP 10 this Sunday - pre sales - and the way its
selling at the mo.

SHOCK HORROR etc

Steve

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: re:IMPACT USA 12 INCH
Date: 02 Jan 1997 18:24:08 GMT

Ok i have a bid for 10 pound (english) for the 12 inch.
Advances - mail me private.

Steve

----------------------[Reply - Original Message]----------------------

Sent by:The Box <[e-mail]>
 On Mon, 30 Dec 1996 [e-mail] wrote:

>
> Ahem...a million will do :)
>
> Seriously anyone who is interested then drop me a private mail and ill
> auction the bugger off. Remember im in the UK - remember postage sucks!

    Count me in. What's the bidding at?

halcyon <n> - A fabled bird, identified with the kingfisher, that was
supposed to have had the power to calm the wind and the waves during
winter solstice while it rested on the sea.
      <adj> - 1. Calm and peaceful; tranquil.
          2. Prosperous; golden.


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From: [e-mail]
Subject: re:Satan EPs!
Date: 02 Jan 1997 18:34:55 GMT

Total of 8 tracks on 3 cds.

The list is on my webpage.

I can list here if need be.

Cheers

Steve LOOPZ Price

----------------------[Reply - Original Message]----------------------

Sent by:[e-mail]
 I am wondering how many tracks the Satan EP has.  The one at CDnow only
has
two.  Should I get it from them or should I look around?  I need advice
for
my purchase.
Thanx
Morpheus

=====================================================================

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: Orbital b-side cd?
Date: 02 Jan 1997 18:50:11 GMT

O
>Anyone know if there's any chance that Orbital might release the =
extremely
>hard to find b-sides (i.e the ones only availible on Japanese or German
>versions of a single) on one cd, like what Moby recently did?  I was =
really
>glad to finally get to hear his "thousand", I had to hear what 1,000 bmp
>sounds like....

thousand...hahaha, most people think that this is the fastest record
ever made but it's not.
Toddy's New year teaser for you...what is the fastest record ever
made, who is it by and how fast is it?

  _________________  ______  ___________   ___
 |          /      \|      \|      \    | |   |
 |__     __|        |       |       |   |_|   |
    |   |  |        |       |       |\_     _/
    |   |  |        |       |       |  |   |
    |___|   \______/|______/|______/   |___|

                             =20
     =20

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: Are We Here single
Date: 02 Jan 1997 18:50:07 GMT


>I see, they didn't even record silence huh?  It's just a blank track.  =
So
>do you guys all skip this track or play it anyway ('cause it's Orbital =
:).  Is

errrr, no I don't play it, I don't usually play my singles, I play 1
and 4 and that's it.

>the "Space Babies" the picture of the little toy in the mirror?  The =
photo
>doesn't seem to have a title on the back of my CD.

yeah, and there's another one wearing a furry black robe.

take it easy
  _________________  ______  ___________   ___
 |          /      \|      \|      \    | |   |
 |__     __|        |       |       |   |_|   |
    |   |  |        |       |       |\_     _/
    |   |  |        |       |       |  |   |
    |___|   \______/|______/|______/   |___|

                             =20
     =20

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From: "Lazlo Nibble" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Answers to various questions
Date: 02 Jan 1997 12:55:34 -0700 (MST)

A reminder: the answers to all of these questions are available in the
discography at http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital (which you
can also get or search via email at [e-mail] -- email the command HELP
on a line by itself if you're not familiar with the server).

> I am wondering how many tracks the Satan EP has.  The one at CDnow only has
> two.  Should I get it from them or should I look around?  I need advice for
> my purchase.

The one at CDNow actually has three (they list it as "Satan + 2").  They list
is as being LIECD25, which has:

   CD5:    1995 UK (Internal; LIECD 25) [reissue; 28 Aug 95]
      6:46    Satan [unspecified remix]
      5:09    L.C.1
      8:06    Belfast

> Also, what does the peel sessions have on it?

   12":    1994 UK (Internal; LIARX 12)
    CD:    1994 UK (Internal; LIECD 12 / 857 423-2)
      6:47    Lush (eurotunnel disaster '94)
      7:47    Walk About
      8:11    Semi-Detached
      7:06    Attached

> Is it basically the british version of "diversions"?

Not really, though Diversions has two of the four Peel Sessions performances
on it ("Lush" and "Walk About").

> I've been reading Mixmag, and they keep talking about
> trainspotters..... what exactly is this?

Anyone who cares about details like this. :-)

> About the Satan CDs, can someone please find the time to list the actual
> length of songs ? It's not TOO important, but I'd be a happy camper.

See above (or, again, the discography).

--
::: Lazlo ([e-mail]; http://www.swcp.com/lazlo)

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From: "Michael A. Polisky" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Satan - Meaning-was: 12" release date
Date: 02 Jan 1997 17:33:22 -0500


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 The beginning of the Satan is taken directly from a song the Butthole
Surfers did called sweatloaf. As I still have not heard sweatloaf,
someone told me that you can find similarities between the songs.  I
think its great when people come to the conclusion that means Orbital is
a satanic group. You should have seen the look on this guys face behind
me at tower when I asked "Do you have the new Satan live by Orbital?".
He was buying some barney video or something. It was funny.
mike!
[e-mail]

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<DT> The beginning of the Satan is taken directly from a song the
Butthole Surfers did called sweatloaf. As I still have not heard sweatloaf,
someone told me that you can find similarities between the songs.
I think its great when people come to the conclusion that means Orbital
is a satanic group. You should have seen the look on this guys face behind
me at tower when I asked "Do you have the new Satan live by Orbital?".
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<DT>mike!</DT>

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h Criminal Justice
Bill? on it. I haven't found the US version with the Rabbit in the Moon
mixes yet.

So, judging by what I could get from the UK, it is still relatively easy to
get the following B-sides:

          6:46  Satan                    (b-side if you don't have US Green
album)
          5:09  L.C.1
          7:22  Midnight                 (b-side if you don't have US Green
album)
          5:35  Choice                   (b-side if you don't have US Green
album)
          7:03  Analogue Test Feb '90
         11:10  Halcyon                  (different to version on Brown album)
          6:24  The Naked and The Dead
          7:13  Sunday

I'm assuming that most people can still get the Times Fly and The Box CD
singles, which came with In Sides as a bonus disc in the US.

I also saw 'Funky Alternatives' in the shops the other day, which has 'Open
Mind' on it. Haven't made up my mind if this is worth getting though, just
for that one song. Recomendations, anyone?

What I haven't seen anywhere are the following:
- Original release of Chime, with Deeper and Open Mind
- Omen - I would love to find the 12" of this, which is a four-parter like
The Box
- Mutations

If anyone finds these, tell me immediately :-)

Anyway: the addresses of the places I mentioned are:

PastelBlue:   http://www.demon.co.uk/pastel/
Sister Ray:   [e-mail] (e-mail only)

There are lots of other places as well, whichi should undoubtedly be cheaper
than CD-NOW.

Cheers,
Geoff




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From: Daniel Kasaj <[e-mail]>
Subject: A few questions
Date: 02 Jan 1997 23:28:56 +0100 (MET)

So, I watch the telly tonight and catch the Oasis "don't look back in anger"
video. All of a sudden, I dunno why, the lyrics "So Sally could wait..."
reminded me of the In Sides' dedication of TGWTSIHH to Sally Harding. I
think that's how her name's spelled. Anyway, I've seen her name mentioned in
the list here. The only things I know of her are that she's dead and her
first name rhymes with "Ally Pally". Who was this person ?


btw, I noticed this other thing. Whenever someone's reffering to
Snivilisation, I get this image of number 10 in my mind. I don't know if
it's because of the ten tracks or the ten flags on the cover of the CD.
(I presume these two things are not related)

--

   Daniel Kasaj - [e-mail]    URL: http://fly.cc.fer.hr/~leqash
  Home : Borovje 8, Zagreb, CROATIA                    phone - [phone]

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: Satan EPs!
Date: 02 Jan 1997 18:48:39 -0500

>Total of 8 tracks on 3 cds.

>The list is on my webpage.

>I can list here if need be.

>Cheers

>Steve LOOPZ Price

Thanx, but I don't have your Website address.  I would much appreciate it
thanx
Keep the Rave Alive.
Morpheus

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From: "Anthony Agee" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: re:Satan EPs!
Date: 02 Jan 1997 18:18:20 -0600

> The list is on my webpage.
>
> I can list here if need be.
>


Crap!  Where is your webpage again?  I miss your signature.



[e-mail]

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From: "Anthony Agee" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Drum & Bass
Date: 02 Jan 1997 18:19:52 -0600

You guys think Orbital will ever get into Drum and Bass for a few songs?  I
think it would be great just to see what they'd do.




[e-mail]

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From: Daniel Kasaj <[e-mail]>
Subject: Forgot something...
Date: 03 Jan 1997 01:04:39 +0100 (MET)

Yeah. I forgot to ask you all of an opinion.
Why are the Hartnolls so obsessed with undrinkable water ? I mean, "Kein
Trink Wasser", "Dwr Budr" ..
or is this also a coincidence ?

--

   Daniel Kasaj - [e-mail]    URL: http://fly.cc.fer.hr/~leqash
  Home : Borovje 8, Zagreb, CROATIA                    phone - [phone]

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From: tsee <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Satan - Meaning-was: 12" release date
Date: 02 Jan 1997 17:23:40 -0800

At 05:33 PM 1/2/97 -0500, you wrote:
> The beginning of the Satan is taken directly from a song the Butthole
>Surfers did called sweatloaf. As I still have not heard sweatloaf,
>someone told me that you can find similarities between the songs.

        What?!?  Um, well, maybe parts of it where Orbital uses the digital
samples of the electronic guitar.  The Butthole Surfer LP that the song is
on is called Locust Abortion Technicians.  Um, if you listen to the
Sweatloaf song, you will see what I mean (Heavy Guitar with mindless
screaming vs. Orbital digital electronic guitar sample sounds and etc.)
Intelligent techno is not BS (HA HA ;-))

Trent | tnerT


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From: [e-mail] (Clint Fleming)
Subject: Re: Re:halcyon and other singles
Date: 02 Jan 1997 17:35:02 -0800

Reply-To: [e-mail]



Hey Ryan, I live in San Diego.  How far is the Amoeba store from here (two
hours?).  Yes and let me know the address so I can go down there next time I
go to West Hollywood (will be going there tomorrow actually at the Nichiren
Shoshu Temple).



Trent | tnerT


In reply to Trent's message...
Amoeba records is on Haigt St. in San Francisco- that's a 8 hour drive;
depending on how fast you drive & traffic. I suggest going to Solid Grooves in
San Jose which will save you 45 minutes. Ha! wait for the other guy to get you
the address. couldn't resist.

--
Clint Fleming
Silicon Graphics - Site Facilities
[e-mail]    [phone]


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From: tsee <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Answers to various questions
Date: 02 Jan 1997 17:35:52 -0800

>> I've been reading Mixmag, and they keep talking about
>> trainspotters..... what exactly is this?

>Anyone who cares about details like this. :-)
>

        Well, seeing as I brought up wanting to know about the "What's
wrong" voice on the Out There Somewhere (beginning track 7), I can
appreciate details--it was the THX 1138 film.

        I think I can shed some light though for ya Ryan.  There was a movie
that came out last year about trainspotters.  I can't remember the name of
it; however, I do recall that it was about a group of people who did drugs
(heroin I think) and just sat around and watched (spotted) trains (yeah, the
choo choo's!).

        I hope If this helps you out.  If I am wrong (and I know it won't
take long for someone to point that out if I am ;-)) I am certain someone
will correct me.

P.S.  I will mail you shortly (privately) about the Nichiren Shosu Temple
(don't want to post it here because this is an Orbital list and not a
Buddhist list).

Trent | tnerT


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From: tsee <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Forgot something...
Date: 02 Jan 1997 17:42:39 -0800

At 01:04 AM 1/3/97 +0100, you wrote:
>Yeah. I forgot to ask you all of an opinion.
>Why are the Hartnolls so obsessed with undrinkable water ? I mean, "Kein
>Trink Wasser", "Dwr Budr" ..
>or is this also a coincidence ?

        Excuse my ignorance but, "Kein Trink Wasser"? (this must be
German--wasser=water) "Dwr Budr"? ? :-| ? *scratching head*

        What do they stand for/mean (besides undrinkable water-duh).

Trent | tnerT


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From: Brian Davis <[e-mail]>
Subject: halycon single
Date: 02 Jan 1997 19:52:23 -0600

hey all...just wanted to let anyone interested know that an on-line
place is selling the US Halycon single(for $6.98)....i have no idea if
this place is worth a hoot, but i guess it's worth a shot for those that
need it....it's at http://www.cdbanzai.com
take care
Brian
[e-mail]

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From: tsee <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Re:halcyon and other singles
Date: 02 Jan 1997 18:00:37 -0800

>In reply to Trent's message...
>Amoeba records is on Haigt St. in San Francisco- that's a 8 hour drive;
>depending on how fast you drive & traffic. I suggest going to Solid Grooves in
>San Jose which will save you 45 minutes. Ha! wait for the other guy to get you
>the address. couldn't resist.
>
>--
>Clint Fleming
>Silicon Graphics - Site Facilities
>[e-mail]    [phone]
>

        Whoa, eight hours, dang and I thought 2 1/2 hours to West Hollywood
was bad, sheesh.  Hmm, Solid Grooves--in San Jose, well maybe if I am
ambitious; otherwise I will stick with going to Rhino Records in LA.

        Thanks a-lot though Clint.  Wow, you have the privilege to work for
Silly con Graphics (hehe ;-))


Trent | tnerT


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From: "Ken Kato (RhoTech)" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: Drum & Bass
Date: 02 Jan 1997 18:34:07 -0800

when I talked to the Hartnoll bros when they came here to Seattle a few
weeks ago, I asked them the very question.  They basically said that
when they set out to write something, they don't have a specific style
or sound to go after.  They don't say "hey let's do a jungle song", they
just do what they want to do and what sounds good to them at the moment.
 The impression I got was they were getting into more lyrical & melodic
(like Box) material and less beat oriented stuff (like Satan).  Their
interest in doing movie soundtrack have been written in number of
articles and Paul told me that he constantly listens to various movie
soundtracks and incorporate similar thematic development into their
writings.

so my guess is they might do it if they want to (they can do whatever
the hell they want to) or they might just skip that whole Drum'n Bass
stuff.

By the way, if you like drum'n bass, definitely check out Bill Laswell's
"Oscillations"  distributed by Sub Rosa out of Belgium.  Much better
than Spring Hell Jack (which gets old after 5 minutes)

kenk

>-----Original Message-----
>From:    Anthony Agee [SMTP:[e-mail]]
>Sent:    Thursday, January 02, 1997 4:20 PM
>To:    [e-mail]
>Subject:    Drum & Bass
>
>You guys think Orbital will ever get into Drum and Bass for a few songs?  I
>think it would be great just to see what they'd do.
>
>
>
>
>[e-mail]

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: Answers to various questions
Date: 02 Jan 1997 23:42:19 -0500

>I think I can shed some light though for ya Ryan.  There was a movie
>that came out last year about trainspotters.  I can't remember the name of
>it; however, I do recall that it was about a group of people who did drugs
>(heroin I think) and just sat around and watched (spotted) trains (yeah, the
>choo choo's!).

The movie which you are looking for is called Trainspotting!
Morpheus

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From: Shaun Rader <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: I need advice
Date: 02 Jan 1997 19:59:03 -0800

[e-mail] wrote:

> Ok thanx, but my only source for Orbital EP's is CDnow at the moment.  Where
> I live, the stores don't carry EP's and Orbital stuff is pretty hard to find
> because it sells out to fast.  Cdnow doesn't have Radiccio, I looked they
> only have Halcyon.  So...I might just pick up the Satan EP.

Radiccio is the same as the Halcyon (+ 2 tracks) that CD Now has
I believe.

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From: Shaun Rader <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: halycon single
Date: 02 Jan 1997 21:39:54 -0800

Brian Davis[SMTP:[e-mail]] wrote:

> hey all...just wanted to let anyone interested know that an on-line
> place is selling the US Halycon single(for $6.98)....i have no idea if
> this place is worth a hoot, but i guess it's worth a shot for those that
> need it....it's at http://www.cdbanzai.com

I actually bought the US Halcyon single from ABCD's
(http://www.abcds.com) and they never sent it.  They didn't charge me
either but I really wanted the US version!

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From: Shaun Rader <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: not halcyon
Date: 02 Jan 1997 20:21:51 -0800

Aaron Murray[SMTP:[e-mail]] wrote:

> grrrr! Blockbuster Music sucks! they haven't even heard of the UK
> release yet! what idiots! now i have to drive all over the place to find
> it.. ugh.. sometimes i wish the brothers were from the states.. it would
> be so much easier to find their stuff..

Man you think that's bad?  Blockbuster and Wherehouse didn't even
know about the US release of "In Sides" for about a month!  I had to
special order it at a 'local' record store (specializing in independent..)

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From: Shaun Rader <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: orbital Digest V2 #128
Date: 02 Jan 1997 20:12:01 -0800

[e-mail] wrote:

> go the second night.... why was the first night's crowd better?  I thought

Well the first night's crowd was much more enthusiastic about the music.
It felt really energetic.  I can tell Orbital feeds off of the energy from the
crowd (as most on stage performers probably do) and we were givin' it
to them.  Every time a new song started or there was a funky remix the
whole crowd would cheer.  Lots of cheering.

The second night was more mellow and it seemed as if the brothers were
almost trying to impress the crowd (that's why I liked the music better
on the second night) but they never seemed to get into it.  Everyone was
dancin' but there was no response you know?

> ravers, as I've never been to a real one, only a few small clubs....

I've only gone to Organic and the two Orbital shows so I wouldn't know
either...

> people, etc.  Most everyone seemed to enjoy it, and I saw an interview with
> orbital (at the KROQ acoustic christmas) where they said they absolutely

Was this the interview on 120 Minutes?  I wish they interviewed them
live on the radio that day but they played a pre-recorded interview...

> loved both crowds.  How many songs did they play for the encore the first

They played the exact same set on both nights.  Chime and a very
extended version of Impact.  The second night seemed to be much
longer (Impact) and it was great.  A great way to end their Hollywood
set.

> start into Halcyon they all started yelling "it's Richard Blade's song!!"
> because he plays it every day at the end of his segment.  So some of the
> people around them looked at them real funny and asked if they'd won their
> tickets from KROQ.  hee hee.

Yeah, I cracked up when I heard that too (on KROQ).  It's so true, I'm
glad I didn't see them around when they got excited over that (although
it would be pretty funny).

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Dwr Budr
Date: 03 Jan 1997 03:41:29 -0500

Ok...this one's been bugging me for a while--what the @#$# does "Dwr Budr"
mean???  And while I'm at it, how do you pronounce it? (I've been saying
either dweer booder, or dwyer booder, depending on how i feel at any given
moment)

Thanx,
Matt

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From: Daniel Kasaj <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Forgot something...
Date: 03 Jan 1997 09:53:00 +0100 (MET)

>
>At 01:04 AM 1/3/97 +0100, you wrote:
>>Yeah. I forgot to ask you all of an opinion.
>>Why are the Hartnolls so obsessed with undrinkable water ? I mean, "Kein
>>Trink Wasser", "Dwr Budr" ..
>>or is this also a coincidence ?
>
>        Excuse my ignorance but, "Kein Trink Wasser"? (this must be
>German--wasser=water) "Dwr Budr"? ? :-| ? *scratching head*
>
>        What do they stand for/mean (besides undrinkable water-duh).

"Kein Trink Wasser" stands directly for undrinkable water, and "Dwr Budr" is
Welsh for "Dirty Water".


--

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Glad to live in the US (for once)
Date: 03 Jan 1997 04:18:13 -0500

I finally figured out an Orbital-related reason to be glad to live in the
US.....a couple mos ago, I saw the Times Fly EP in a store, and I wondered
what purpose it served, since it came packed w/In Sides, but after reading
some recent mail on this list, I've discovered that it didn't come packed
w/the non-US versions of In Sides--finally, a reason to be happy I got the
domestic version of something!

As a sidenote (I notice myself using that phrase a lot on this list....),
it's a really really really BAD idea to not read the mail on this list for a
couple days--I pretty much had to just read what sounded interesting to me,
and delete the rest.  (hope I didn't miss anything important)

Another sidenote--why do you guys like Impact so much??  I mean, it's a good
tune, but I don't even think it's the best on that album  (I think Lush 3-1
and 3-2, Halcyon, and Planet of the Shapes are all better).

Your pal,
Matt

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From: Andrew Jackson <[e-mail]>
Subject: re:SATAN EP CD  ?
Date: 03 Jan 1997 09:51:42 GMT

Steve

> Anybody want the satan cds ?

> and im sure that more people would prefer to pay resonable prices for all
> three instead of mad import prices.

Is there still to be a US-only Live release? If this is the case, I'd
be happy to swap the 3 UK EPs for the US Mini-LP when it arrives with
any stateside list member, to save on import costs all round.

Similarly, I have an extensive US wants list, if anyone is prepared
to enter into negotiations with me!

Email me privately, please...

Regards

Andy Jackson


"For my birthday I got a humidifier and a de-humidifier.
 I put them in the same room and let them fight it out."
(Stephen Wright)

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From: Peel Jason <[e-mail]>
Subject: but what does it mean to ORBITAL
Date: 03 Jan 1997 09:46:00 PST


Cheers for the BUTTholes surfers tip.  I know about them and their little
world, BUT what does it mean to ORBITAL, why did they use the sample?  I
like to listern to something and try and understand what or why the piece
( in this case the master piece SATAN )  was written .  OR to hear what
other people think of a piece. It can change the whole way you view a
piece of music ..



jason

"<:::::::::::::::::::::: clunk clink every trip ::::::::::::::::>  "

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: IMPACT USA 12 INCH BID
Date: 03 Jan 1997 11:26:05 GMT

Current bid is now 11 Pound English - advances - mail me

Cheers

Steve

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From: "Racher, Graham" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Answers to various questions
Date: 03 Jan 1997 13:18 +0000 (GMT)


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The Movie was indeed called trainspotting.
It was set in Edinburgh, based on Irvine Welsh's Novel.
Yes a lot of the characters did use heroin, but they didn't just sit
around and watch trains!
It caused some controversy in the UK, with the usual tabloid knee jerk
reaction claiming it glamorized drugs.
Yes, it did show people off their faces, having a great time escaping
from their own mundane lives, but it also showed the desperation of it
all, and deaths. Most noticeable were the baby, and Tommy. Tommy was the
straight one who started on heroin half way through the film. He
developed Aids and the died from a disease that he picked up from the
faeces of a kitten that he had bought as a present for his girlfriend.
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From: "Racher, Graham" <[e-mail]>
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Dwr Budr is Welsh for 'Dirty Water'
Wales is the country stuck to the left of England in case you didn't know
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From: [e-mail] (Mike Bellwood)
Subject: Trainspotters
Date: 03 Jan 1997 11:04:29 -0500

>> I've been reading Mixmag, and they keep talking about
>> trainspotters..... what exactly is this?

Definition:

'Trainspotter': The guys the DJ's love to hate.  A trainspotter is a
chap/chappess who spends half his/her life trying find out what the local
mixmaster is spinning down their local club/party/rave in the impossible
hope of trying to know every tune, mix, sequence etc and learn the DJ's
trade secrets.  More akin to the ancient pastime of actually spotting
trains than the move 'Trainspotting' me thinks.

Cheers,  MikeB.



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From: "Lazlo Nibble" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Trainspotters
Date: 03 Jan 1997 10:10:16 -0700 (MST)

> 'Trainspotter': The guys the DJ's love to hate.  A trainspotter is a
> chap/chappess who spends half his/her life trying find out what the local
> mixmaster is spinning down their local club/party/rave in the impossible
> hope of trying to know every tune, mix, sequence etc and learn the DJ's
> trade secrets.

Yes, God forbid that anyone actually want to be able to listen to cool music
without having to make a pilgrimage to some wax-spinning self-appointed god of
music to do it. :-)

Any DJ who feels the need to keep secret what tracks they're playing is just
demonstrating that they don't have any DJ skills beyond knowing where to find
the latest hot white-label . . .

--
::: Lazlo ([e-mail]; http://www.swcp.com/lazlo)

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: re: Dwr Budr and other questions
Date: 03 Jan 1997 13:01:42 -0500

Yes, it's Dirty Water in Welsh. Apparently the tune was going to be much
happier (as was the album) but tragedies (personal and more global)
intervened.*

Dwr Budr's mood turned with the oil spill from the Sea Empress, an oil tanker
that ran aground near Milford Haven in Wales, which is annoyingly close to a
couple of superb nature reserves. Obviously not a good thing.

Someone asked about Sally Harding. She was a photographer- she took the cover
of Lush 3, and was a friend of (a/both the?) Hartnoll(s), and The Girl... is
dedicated to her and is on a new album that Steve referred to earlier this
week.

The lineage of 'trainspotting' is long, uniquely British, and derives
ultimately from people collecting train (and even carriage) numbers on cold,
deserted platforms, and has since come to mean anyone who (obsessively?)
collects information/things [like, say, Orbital fans after all the singles or
who know why a track's called whatever :O) ]

The name of the film/book/play/t-shirt is from one of the final chapters of
the book (not in the film) where Begbie meets his dad. No-one in the film
*actually* trainspots.

cheers. Paul Mison. [e-mail]
http://members.aol.com/pmison/
fanbase corrupted- abort, retry, fail?**

* I think this is all right. Steve will hopefully correct it if it's not.
I'll check the Mixmag I believe I read all this in over the weekend.
** My money's still on a top 5 entry for Satan Live.

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From: ^EA^ <[e-mail]>
Subject: Satan - charts
Date: 03 Jan 1997 13:19:09 -0800

[e-mail] wrote:

> ** My money's still on a top 5 entry for Satan Live.

Do they still tally the charts on Tuesday ?

Keep us overseas people upto date, cheers


Mick
[e-mail]


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From: "Anthony Agee" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Glad to live in the US (for once)
Date: 03 Jan 1997 14:33:24 -0600

> Another sidenote--why do you guys like Impact so much??  I mean, it's a
good
> tune, but I don't even think it's the best on that album  (I think Lush
3-1
> and 3-2, Halcyon, and Planet of the Shapes are all better).
>
> Your pal,
> Matt


ACK!!!    Impact is their best work!  First time I heard it (previewing it
at Blockbuster aka Suck-Ass Record Store) I almost cried it was so good.

If you don't like Impact USA listen to the remix on the Diversions
CD....it's also wonderful.



[e-mail]

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From: "Anthony Agee" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Trainspotters
Date: 03 Jan 1997 14:35:26 -0600

> Yes, God forbid that anyone actually want to be able to listen to cool
music
> without having to make a pilgrimage to some wax-spinning self-appointed
god of
> music to do it. :-)
>
> Any DJ who feels the need to keep secret what tracks they're playing is
just
> demonstrating that they don't have any DJ skills beyond knowing where to
find
> the latest hot white-label . . .


Abso-effing-lutely!!!!   I've had it up to HERE  (holding hands up to neck)
with arrogant DJs.


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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: Dwr Budr
Date: 03 Jan 1997 17:22:35 -0500

I know where Wales is  =P  But you still didn't tell me how to pronounce
it!!!!!

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: Dwr Budr and other questions
Date: 03 Jan 1997 17:33:33 -0500

In a message dated 97-01-03 13:06:20 EST, you write:

<<  Apparently the tune was going to be much
 happier (as was the album) but tragedies (personal and more global)
 intervened.* >>

Actually, I'm not sure I would have liked the album (or Dwr Budr in
particular) had it been "happier."  I particularly like the dark mood in Dwr
Budr and in PETROL.  (I especially like the girl whispering "close your eyes"
in Dwr Budr)

Matt

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From: Shaun Rader <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: Dwr Budr and other questions
Date: 03 Jan 1997 15:48:04 -0800

[e-mail] wrote:

> Actually, I'm not sure I would have liked the album (or Dwr Budr in
> particular) had it been "happier."  I particularly like the dark mood in Dwr
> Budr and in PETROL.  (I especially like the girl whispering "close your eyes"
> in Dwr Budr)

Where is this "close your eyes"?  I've never heard it and I've listened to the
CD millions of times!  I seem to always find something new on the CD.. that's
what I like about Orbital.  Such attention to detail!

I just barely noticed the shifting (left to right) sound in the background of
Out There Somewhere? (track 2).  It sounds almost like swishing water but
it's not water at all (electronic instrument).  Nevermind, I'm not good at
explaining.  But it's just amazing how many things are going on in their
songs.

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: Glad to live in the US (for once)
Date: 03 Jan 1997 19:06:29 -0500



<< ACK!!!    Impact is their best work!  First time I heard it (previewing it
 at Blockbuster aka Suck-Ass Record Store) I almost cried it was so good.

 If you don't like Impact USA listen to the remix on the Diversions
 CD....it's also wonderful. >>

I have to disagree with that one. I have Diversions and I have to say that
Impact USA is not Orbital's best work.  I haven't heard everything from
Orbital so my opinion is completely accurate.  I think that The Girl With...,
Forever, Monday, Halcyon+On+On (I haven't heard the original yet so...) are
some of Orbital's best works.  Impact USA is a great track just like all of
Orbital's works are, but it is a shame to call it their best work.  This is
just my opinion.
C ya.  Keep the Rave Alive.
Morpheus.

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From: Ernesto Perez <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: CDNOW (Radiccio US Version?)
Date: 03 Jan 1997 20:20:32 -0600

Shaun Rader wrote:
>

> Is this about the Radiccio CD?  Anyone know if the US Version of Radiccio is
> still out there?  I tried ordering it from ABCD's (I don't have The Naked and the
> Dub) but it never arrived.
>

i didn't know there was a US version of RADICCIO, i thought it was only
the halcyon single with the naked and the dead, naked and the dub,
saturday (or was monday) and chime. anyone else know about this?

dj ernie

happy new year!

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From: The Box <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: I need advice
Date: 03 Jan 1997 21:14:08 -0500 (EST)

On Thu, 2 Jan 1997 [e-mail] wrote:

> because it sells out to fast.  Cdnow doesn't have Radiccio, I looked they
> only have Halcyon.  So...I might just pick up the Satan EP.

    It *says* Halcyon, but they sure as hell sent me the 'Radiccio'
CD...

halcyon <n> - A fabled bird, identified with the kingfisher, that was
supposed to have had the power to calm the wind and the waves during
winter solstice while it rested on the sea.
      <adj> - 1. Calm and peaceful; tranquil.
          2. Prosperous; golden.


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From: The Box <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: not halcyon
Date: 03 Jan 1997 21:19:36 -0500 (EST)

On Thu, 2 Jan 1997, Aaron Murray wrote:

> grrrr! Blockbuster Music sucks! they haven't even heard of the UK
> release yet! what idiots! now i have to drive all over the place to find
> it.. ugh.. sometimes i wish the brothers were from the states.. it would
> be so much easier to find their stuff..

No kidding. I *work* for Blockbuster Music. Not even in our damn
computers.

halcyon <n> - A fabled bird, identified with the kingfisher, that was
supposed to have had the power to calm the wind and the waves during
winter solstice while it rested on the sea.
      <adj> - 1. Calm and peaceful; tranquil.
          2. Prosperous; golden.


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From: Kevin Neff <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: I need advice
Date: 03 Jan 1997 23:06:17 -0500

The Box wrote:
>
> On Thu, 2 Jan 1997 [e-mail] wrote:
>
> > because it sells out to fast.  Cdnow doesn't have Radiccio, I looked they
> > only have Halcyon.  So...I might just pick up the Satan EP.
>
>         It *says* Halcyon, but they sure as hell sent me the 'Radiccio'
> CD...
>
> halcyon <n> - A fabled bird, identified with the kingfisher, that was
> supposed to have had the power to calm the wind and the waves during
> winter solstice while it rested on the sea.
>       <adj> - 1. Calm and peaceful; tranquil.
>               2. Prosperous; golden.They named the song after a tranquilizer medicine.

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From: Shaun Rader <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: CDNOW (Radiccio US Version?)
Date: 03 Jan 1997 21:42:03 -0800

Ernesto Perez[SMTP:[e-mail]] wrote:

> i didn't know there was a US version of RADICCIO, i thought it was only
> the halcyon single with the naked and the dead, naked and the dub,
> saturday (or was monday) and chime. anyone else know about this?

Yeah I guess it's called Halcyon over here in the US.  I have never seen
the CD so I'm not exactly sure.  But those are the tracks that I was expecting
when I ordered the US version of "Halcyon".. sorry for the inconsistency :)

--
.    .   .  . .end of transmission. .  .   .    .


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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Orbital interview on 120 minutes
Date: 04 Jan 1997 02:54:09 -0800

 Shaun Rader asked:
>Was this the interview on 120 Minutes?  I wish they interviewed them
>live on the radio that day but they played a pre-recorded interview...
    Yeah, MTV did a 180minute-long special edition of the show a few nights
ago, sort of a spotlight on the groups who played the KROQ show.  They
didn't have a very long interview, just a few questions, maybe a couple of
minutes, but they did play "the Box" afterwards.  It's been odd... I don't
watch MTV much, or tv peoriod for that matter, but whenever I turn it on,
within 10 minutes I see the chemical brothers, the prodge, or orbital.  I
wish they always played that many techno videos!  I gotta go set up the VCR
to tape tonights AMP, so I can have something to bring back to the dorms
with me.
... oh, and thanks, Lazlo, for understanding my question, answering it, and
making me feel vaguely silly for asking it=)  And, just so everyone will
know I didn't miss out on such a great movie, I DID see Trainspotting.....
I even wrote a paper on it for a university class... thanks for telling me,
in case I'd missed it, though!
Ryan



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From: [e-mail]
Subject: first Orbital choon?
Date: 04 Jan 1997 13:45:56 GMT

I am interested to know this...how did all you people first get into
Orbital, what was the first Orbital choon you ever heard and what
effect did it have on you?

Me, I was pretty much an indie kid at the time, I was in a pub with a
friend of mine who was a raver, and we decided to have a look at the
jukebox our tasted in music crossed at certain points - he was a huge
Prodigy fan and I'd just started listening to them and a bit of Moby.
My friend was not an Orbital fan, but he had heard one of their
choons, and that one choon just happened to be on the jukebox. It was
Are We Here? (industry standard?) and he decided to play it.
I was gobsmacked, I had never heard anything like it before, I fell in
love with it and pumped another 20p into the jukebox to hear it again.
Everytime we used to go into that pub we always put it on at least
once.
I then proceeded to buy Snivilisation, it was me who became the
Orbital fan, and introduced him to more of their music.
That was in December 1994, so I would have been 16 years old.
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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: Satan - charts
Date: 04 Jan 1997 13:45:52 GMT


>> ** My money's still on a top 5 entry for Satan Live.

top 5, oohhh, I hope not, that would be very bad indeed.
I don't want Orbital to become anymore famous than they are now.
I don't want anyone listening to Orbital 'cos it's cool to like it,
only 'cos they do actually like it.

take it easy
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                             =20
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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: Dwr Budr
Date: 04 Jan 1997 13:45:16 GMT


>Ok...this one's been bugging me for a while--what the @#$# does "Dwr =
Budr"
>mean???  And while I'm at it, how do you pronounce it? (I've been saying
>either dweer booder, or dwyer booder, depending on how i feel at any =
given
>moment)

well, Dwr Budr means "Dirty water" in Welsh, I know that w is
pronounced "oo" so it's door, but not as in door (wood in th'ole) 'cos
that would be pronounced dore, I mean d"ooh"r geddit?
as for the b word I haven't a frikkking clue.

take it easy
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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: Drum & Bass
Date: 04 Jan 1997 13:45:08 GMT


>You guys think Orbital will ever get into Drum and Bass for a few songs?=
  I
>think it would be great just to see what they'd do.

listen, follow these instructions for an Orbital drum'n'bass choon,
that kicks ass completely.

if you have dexx with pitch control, and a 12" (45rpm) copy of 1995's
untitled EP, play Times Fly (fast) on maximum speed. Turn up the bass
and enjoy. I always do this when I play that version, it sound so much
better than at the original speed.
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                             =20
     =20

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From: ^EA^ <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Satan - charts
Date: 04 Jan 1997 09:34:54 -0800

[e-mail] wrote:

> top 5, oohhh, I hope not, that would be very bad indeed.
> I don't want Orbital to become anymore famous than they are now.
> I don't want anyone listening to Orbital 'cos it's cool to like it,
> only 'cos they do actually like it.

I was wondering how many people out there that would absolutely love
Orbitals music if they were given the chance to hear it? I believe that
this year they will become huge worldwide,ok there will be some who will
like Orbital because it's the "in thing" but they will soon fade (and
who really cares anyway?),just think of the people who will become life
long fans for the first time,i remember hearing Orbital for the first
time and thought, jesus!
I could'nt imagine music without Orbital now, so give others the chance.

Orbital,more power to them....

Regards,
Mick


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From: [e-mail]
Subject: re:Satan - charts
Date: 04 Jan 1997 15:49:47 GMT

Charts are now done on Sundays.

But Asda has Satan at number 11 :)
And the Chart Show (which has nothing to do with the "Official" chart) has
Satan at 6.

My money is on number 7 still ;)

Cheers

Steve

----------------------[Reply - Original Message]----------------------

Sent by:^EA^ <[e-mail]>
 [e-mail] wrote:

> ** My money's still on a top 5 entry for Satan Live.

Do they still tally the charts on Tuesday ?

Keep us overseas people upto date, cheers


Mick
[e-mail]


=====================================================================

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: re: Dwr Budr and other questions
Date: 04 Jan 1997 15:57:17 GMT


DwrBudr - excellent track

>Someone asked about Sally Harding. She was a photographer- she took the
>cover of Lush 3, and was a friend of (a/both the?) Hartnoll(s), and The
>Girl... is dedicated to her and is on a new album that Steve referred to
>earlier this week.

Sally was m8s with both Hartnolls...but ended up being very pally pally
with the likes of Richard D James, Drumclub, Andrew Weatherll
etc...basically anyone she photographed.
Paul showed me some paintings (yes...she painted too) of Phil half naked!
and Paul reading a book (Star Trek!)....they were unique...seemed a
talented women....they only get to be known when they are gone.

Shame!

cheers

Steve LOOPZ Price

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: re:Re: Glad to live in the US (for once)
Date: 04 Jan 1997 16:04:55 GMT



>If you don't like Impact USA listen to the remix on the Diversions
>CD....it's also wonderful.

ermmm...aint these the same m8 ?

Cheers

Steve

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: re:Re: I need advice
Date: 04 Jan 1997 16:13:53 GMT

Raddicio and Halcyon are the same - its just the Halcyon was part of the
Raddicio EP.

Steve

----------------------[Reply - Original Message]----------------------

Sent by:The Box <[e-mail]>
 On Thu, 2 Jan 1997 [e-mail] wrote:

> because it sells out to fast.  Cdnow doesn't have Radiccio, I looked
they
> only have Halcyon.  So...I might just pick up the Satan EP.

    It *says* Halcyon, but they sure as hell sent me the 'Radiccio'
CD...

halcyon <n> - A fabled bird, identified with the kingfisher, that was
supposed to have had the power to calm the wind and the waves during
winter solstice while it rested on the sea.
      <adj> - 1. Calm and peaceful; tranquil.
          2. Prosperous; golden.


=====================================================================

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: re:(orbital) Getting those elusive B-sides
Date: 04 Jan 1997 16:30:48 GMT


>I also saw 'Funky Alternatives' in the shops the other day, which has
>'Open Mind' on it. Haven't made up my mind if this is worth getting
>though, just for that one song. Recomendations, anyone?

Id say so...open mind (f.a.mix) is one of my all time fav Orbital tracks.

Although there is another compilation album which has Golden Girls
(orbital to u and me) - "Kinetic" and Orbital - Open Mind (f.a.mix) which
is better to get.

CND Compilation album if i remember right - i can give cat nos if anyone
interested.

Cheers

Steve

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: re:Re: Satan EPs!
Date: 04 Jan 1997 16:38:15 GMT

Sorry m8

Here it is

Steve
  |      _ \   _ \   _ \ __  /  [e-mail]
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  |     |   | |   | ___/   /      UK.UNDERNET.ORG - LOGGED ON AS LOOPZ
 _____|\___/ \___/ _|    ____|
             Price

HTTP://WWW.CYBERCITY.HKO.NET/BIRMINGHAM/LOOPZ


----------------------[Reply - Original Message]----------------------

Sent by:[e-mail]
 >Total of 8 tracks on 3 cds.

>The list is on my webpage.

>I can list here if need be.

>Cheers

>Steve LOOPZ Price

Thanx, but I don't have your Website address.  I would much appreciate it
thanx
Keep the Rave Alive.
Morpheus

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From: lysergic ad naseum <[e-mail]>
Subject: re:(orbital) Getting those elusive B-sides
Date: 04 Jan 1997 12:04:48 -0600

i'd love the catalog number and full title of the CDN comp if i could
trouble you so...  thanks steve


                                                -lysergic


At 04:30 PM 1/4/97 GMT, [e-mail] wrote:
>
>>I also saw 'Funky Alternatives' in the shops the other day, which has
>>'Open Mind' on it. Haven't made up my mind if this is worth getting
>>though, just for that one song. Recomendations, anyone?
>
>Id say so...open mind (f.a.mix) is one of my all time fav Orbital tracks.
>
>Although there is another compilation album which has Golden Girls
>(orbital to u and me) - "Kinetic" and Orbital - Open Mind (f.a.mix) which
>is better to get.
>
>CND Compilation album if i remember right - i can give cat nos if anyone
>interested.
>
>Cheers
>
>Steve
>
>


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From: moiz <[e-mail]>
Subject: first Orbital choon
Date: 04 Jan 1997 19:26:20 -0800

In reply to
[e-mail]
I am interested to know this...how did all you people first get into
Orbital, what was the first Orbital choon you ever heard and what
effect did it have on you?

This feels like a school essay: How I first got into Orbital. Well, it's
got to be more interesting than How I spent my Christmas holidays.

I was first alerted to Orbital by an article in The Guardian, 19 April
1996 (available via the Orbital-News page). I had never heard of Orbital
before although the M25 was only too familiar. I had decided that I was
becoming a boring old f*rt and was looking for something musically new
and exciting, so I went straight out and bought In Sides. On the train
journey home, I put it on the Walkman and prepared to be dazzled ...
well, do I have to spell it out? I was dazzled, stunned, gobsmacked ...
the complexity, the rich textures, the sinuous rhythms ... I've had it on
the Walkman ever since, which is unheard of for me. Normally 3 weeks is
about my limit before I get bored, but I feel I've barely scratched the
surface in appreciating In Sides. So my first Orbital choon was TGWTSIHH.
I love their other stuff too - my favourite track is High Rise - can't
resist those seductive Latin rhythms.
Has anyone else noticed a similar feeling to Orbital's music in the music
of Wagner? His music is also rich and complex, with the same sureness of
touch in handling the recurrent leitmotifs and developing themes, and a
trancey atmosphere. It also stands up well to repeated listening. Somehow
it's satisfying to listen to - just like Orbital.

:O}
moiz


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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: Glad to live in the US (for once)
Date: 04 Jan 1997 19:44:16 GMT

=20
> If you don't like Impact USA listen to the remix on the Diversions
> CD....it's also wonderful. >>

errr, call me as thick as the offspring of the village idiot and a TV
weathergirl (yes, I did nick that joke from Red Dwarf), but the one on
Diversions IS Impact USA (The earth is burning: diversion), a remix of
Impact (The earth is burning).

>I have to disagree with that one. I have Diversions and I have to say =
that
>Impact USA is not Orbital's best work.  I haven't heard everything from

no, it's not their best work, but it's still blinding.

>C ya.  Keep the Rave Alive.

don't worry, I will ;)

take it easy
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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: Dwr Budr and other questions
Date: 04 Jan 1997 19:44:23 GMT


>Where is this "close your eyes"?  I've never heard it and I've listened =
to the
>CD millions of times!  I seem to always find something new on the CD.. =
that's
>what I like about Orbital.  Such attention to detail!

I've never heard this either! what a great excuse to immediately put
on my In Sides CD for the first time in ages.  Actually, Dwr Budr is
probably my least listened to choon on that record, but I love it, the
way it transforms from a lovely soft atmosphere to a bubbling techno
"experiment" half way through is great.

take it easy
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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: Satan - charts
Date: 04 Jan 1997 19:44:36 GMT


>I was wondering how many people out there that would absolutely love
>Orbitals music if they were given the chance to hear it?

I believe that it is people like us who should quietly introduce our
friends to music, not the media. If someone is going to like a certain
type of music if they hear it, they will eventually stumble accross it
like I did.

take it easy
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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: first Orbital choon?
Date: 04 Jan 1997 16:01:20 -0500



<< I am interested to know this...how did all you people first get into
 Orbital, what was the first Orbital choon you ever heard and what
 effect did it have on you? >>

I first heard Orbital in the music store by my house.  I walked into the
store and I heard some amzing music, so I asked the guy there what it was,
and he said Orbital and showed me the Diversions CD.  I bought it right away
and they have been my favourite group ever since.  That was about 10 months
ago.

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: Dwr Budr and other questions
Date: 04 Jan 1997 17:07:12 -0500

In a message dated 97-01-03 19:16:18 EST, you write:

<< Where is this "close your eyes"?  I've never heard it and I've listened to
the
 CD millions of times!  I seem to always find something new on the CD..
that's
 what I like about Orbital.  Such attention to detail!

 I just barely noticed the shifting (left to right) sound in the background
of
 Out There Somewhere? (track 2) >>

Well, I've never noticed the shifting sound in Out There Somewhere, so....
 Anyway, the girl whispers "close your eyes" near the end of Dwr Budr.....she
starts repeating it at the end of that pattern they use....i don't know how
to explain it really, but i like it...listen for it.

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From: tsee <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: first Orbital choon
Date: 04 Jan 1997 14:41:37 -0800

        In reply to:

>[e-mail]
>I am interested to know this...how did all you people first get into
>Orbital, what was the first Orbital choon you ever heard and what
>effect did it have on you?
>

        I was looking for a CD called L.A. Hardcore Volume 1 that has one of
Olivia D.'s sensual girls paintings on the cover :-).  While in the Tower
Records store down in El Cajon, California (hmm, El Cajon means 'the box' in
spanish :-)), I couldn't help notice the music they were playing.  I then
noticed a DJ friend of mine who back then did shows at Emerald City in
Pacific Beach and asked him who they were.

        He pointed me to the green album (I thought hmm, lime green, no
title--o.k.).  But I liked the Chime tune so much I though I would give it a
try.  And thus started my collection of Orbital.  Actually, they are among
the first techno bands I started listening to, a great group to start with :-).

        O.K.  Who is next?

    Trent See


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From: [e-mail] (Brian Gray)
Subject: first choon...
Date: 04 Jan 1997 16:50:17 -0600 (CST)

first orbital tune...

visiting a buddy from WAY back in Dallas, after clubbin all night at any
place in Deep Ellum we could get into, we headed to his pad with some people
and proceeded to smoke much bud.

He was always a music nut, and had a 100 disc cd player goin random on us.
janes addiction, grateful dead, ween...

lush 3 euro tunnel disaster from diversions came on and i was stuck; i
couldn't move, awestruck by the layering complexities building, and
transforming.  and told everyone to maintain silence while i absorbed the song.

HOOKED!

that was just after diversions was released and in two months, i had three
singles and discs I, II, and diversions for myself.

i continue to pride myself on diversity of musical interest (recent
purchases including Squirrel Nut Zippers, ani difranco, Brian Setzer, and
"LTJ Bukem presents Earth"), but i will always be addicted to Orbital...

to the brothers,
        many thanks for inspiration, solitude, and liberation for mind and
spirit your music has given.  (the music has helped keep me off chemicals,
as has the money i spend on imports (c: )

keep real, live well

duckFeet

Brian  Gray
Amateur Professional


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From: tsee <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: not halcyon
Date: 04 Jan 1997 14:57:09 -0800

>> grrrr! Blockbuster Music sucks! they haven't even heard of the UK
>> release yet! what idiots! now i have to drive all over the place to find
>> it.. ugh.. sometimes i wish the brothers were from the states.. it would
>> be so much easier to find their stuff..
>
>No kidding. I *work* for Blockbuster Music. Not even in our damn
>computers.

        Well, maybe it depends on where the Blockbuster Music is at.  I
bought the In Sides CD from the Blockbuster Music in La Mesa, California
because Tower Records in San Diego, El Cajon and Point Loma didn't have em.
So, maybe it depends on where you are located.


    Trent See


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From: tsee <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Satan - charts
Date: 04 Jan 1997 15:14:41 -0800

At 09:34 AM 1/4/97 -0800, you wrote:
>[e-mail] wrote:
>
>> top 5, oohhh, I hope not, that would be very bad indeed.
>> I don't want Orbital to become anymore famous than they are now.
>> I don't want anyone listening to Orbital 'cos it's cool to like it,
>> only 'cos they do actually like it.
>
>I was wondering how many people out there that would absolutely love
>Orbitals music if they were given the chance to hear it? I believe that
>this year they will become huge worldwide,ok there will be some who will
>like Orbital because it's the "in thing" but they will soon fade (and
>who really cares anyway?),just think of the people who will become life
>long fans for the first time,i remember hearing Orbital for the first
>time and thought, jesus!
>I could'nt imagine music without Orbital now, so give others the chance.
>
>Orbital,more power to them....
>
>Regards,
>Mick
>

                Well, are we back to the "don't want Orbital to become too
popular" bull....?  Coommmmee Oonnn Already will ya.  I have been listened
to them for about three years now but who cares anyway.  I mean, I wonder
how the brothers actually feel about becoming popular.  If I were them, I
would love it!!!  Maybe not to the extent that people would be knocking down
my door, but still...  As far as I am concerned the more the merrier and I
don't care if they blast it in their Camaros, Jeeps or whatever.

                Kan ve shtoup stvalking asbvout dish krap...I am more
interested in finding out about the band...especially those cool tid bits
from Steve and halcyon and those others (ya know who ya are :-)).

                Bye

        P.S., what ever happened to digger?  Did he get paranoid about
posting mail--just kidding ;-))))

    Trent See


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From: tsee <[e-mail]>
Subject: Blockbuster Music
Date: 04 Jan 1997 16:02:30 -0800

Just a quick note.  Blockbuster Music has a web site:

        http://www.blockbuster.com

You can do searches for artists to see if they have them.  I did a search
for Orbital under "all categories" and found Orbital, Diversions, Orbital
2(1993), Are We Here (maxi single), Snivilistation and In Sides.

Gotta go watch the movie "hackers" now

bye
    Trent See


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From: "Ravis1" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Dwr Budr and other questions
Date: 04 Jan 1997 18:29:00 -0600

Shaun,
    I think your using the wrong drugs.  You need to open your ears, mind, and
transistor gates (crank it up).  What ever helps you accomplish this must
be a good thing.

Ravis1
[e-mail]

----------
> From: Shaun Rader <[e-mail]>
>
> Where is this "close your eyes"?  I've never heard it and I've listened
to the
> CD millions of times!  I seem to always find something new on the CD..
that's
> what I like about Orbital.  Such attention to detail!
>
> I just barely noticed the shifting (left to right) sound in the
background of
> Out There Somewhere? (track 2).  It sounds almost like swishing water but
> it's not water at all (electronic instrument).  Nevermind, I'm not good
at
> explaining.  But it's just amazing how many things are going on in their
> songs.


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From: "Ravis1" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: I need advice
Date: 04 Jan 1997 18:32:52 -0600

Kevin Neff wrote:

> The Box wrote:

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From: Brandon Thompson <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: I need advice
Date: 04 Jan 1997 20:42:50 -0500 (EST)

They're going to be big soon. I just heard simon rex and idalis have a
chat about the box. He said they were VERY cool. If they're mentioned on
primetime i feel it's only up from here. I was able to find Snvilisation
at BLOCKBUSTER (the various/techno/rave/dance stickers and not a single CD
by one artist). Finally after all this work. I am magic. But i don't like
it that much. Does anyone else have this problem? They listen to Orbital
and don't like a song. Then they listen to a few more times and they
absolutely LOVE it afterwards. I bought In sides hated every song but
Somewhere out there. But now...... Best investment i've ever done. --
dolemite

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From: tsee <[e-mail]>
Subject: The movie "HACKERS"
Date: 04 Jan 1997 18:12:51 -0800

Well, just finished the movie "Hackers".  If you haven't seen it, I would
suggest it as it was quite entertaining.  At least the computer references
in the movie aren't dated yet.

The music is good in the movie also.  I was surprised and happy to hear
Halcyon & On & On and also Cowgirl.  Cool tunes in that movie.  I believe I
also saw them playing the game Wipeout in it.

Anyhow, a cool flick to watch.  I tried to get the names of the bands used
in the film except for the fact that my TV is so small that reading the
names became impossible--I'll have to take the tape to a friend's house with
a bigger TV.

        Bye
    Trent See


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From: tsee <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: I need advice
Date: 04 Jan 1997 18:19:46 -0800

>Does anyone else have this problem? They listen to Orbital
>and don't like a song. Then they listen to a few more times and they
>absolutely LOVE it afterwards. I bought In sides hated every song but
>Somewhere out there. But now...... Best investment i've ever done. --
>dolemite
>
        Only one song, "Desert Storm".  Quite a long 12:05 minutes.  However
not one of my favorite songs, I have come to like it.

        Bye
    Trent See


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From: Brian Davis <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Blockbuster Music
Date: 04 Jan 1997 21:01:25 -0600

tsee wrote:
>
> Just a quick note.  Blockbuster Music has a web site:
>
>         http://www.blockbuster.com
>
> You can do searches for artists to see if they have them.  I did a search
> for Orbital under "all categories" and found Orbital, Diversions, Orbital
> 2(1993), Are We Here (maxi single), Snivilistation and In Sides.
>
> Gotta go watch the movie "hackers" now
>
> bye
>         Trent See
not that it's of any consequence but the movie "hackers" sucks.....

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: first Orbital choon?
Date: 04 Jan 1997 23:29:24 -0500

The first Orbital tune I ever heard was the Lush Euro-tunnel disaster mix.
 One of my raver buddies had been yakking about how great Orbital was, so I
decided to pick up some.  I got Diversions cuz it was cheaper than the
others.  Anyway, I looked at the songs on the back, and I thought that one
sounded cool, so I popped it in on the drive home and put it on #2....what
can I say, I was floored.  Next I got the Brown Album for the original
versions of Lush and Impact, and from there I progressed to where I am today


Your pal,
Matt

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From: Shaun Rader <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: Dwr Budr and other questions
Date: 04 Jan 1997 21:36:31 -0800

Ravis1[SMTP:[e-mail]] wrote:

> Shaun,
>     I think your using the wrong drugs.  You need to open your ears, mind, and
> transistor gates (crank it up).  What ever helps you accomplish this must
> be a good thing.

Hey hey now.  No way.  I LISTEN to the music very carefully you know.  I
always just sit there and have it as loud as I can get it (without breaking
my speakers or headphones).  I usually don't have anything preoccupying me
when I listen to Orbital :)

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From: Shaun Rader <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: first Orbital choon?
Date: 04 Jan 1997 21:11:37 -0800

[e-mail] wrote:

> I am interested to know this...how did all you people first get into
> Orbital, what was the first Orbital choon you ever heard and what
> effect did it have on you?

Back in about 1992 or 1993 I was looking for 'techno' music because I heard
2 Unlimited's "Get Ready For This" on the radio.  Sorry, but that's the truth!
Anways, I bought the first Orbital CD as well as Moby's Move EP.  I've been
into Orbital and Moby ever since.  Actually I didn't really get back into them
until a few years ago when I got a job (and I could actually buy music).  So
I would have to say my first Orbital choon (?) was the first track on the
Green album here in the US, Belfast.

Orbital is now my favorite band of all time and I don't think I'll ever hear
anything as beuatiful as "Out There Somewhere?"...

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From: "Lazlo Nibble" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Orbital interview on 120 minutes
Date: 04 Jan 1997 22:43:04 -0700 (MST)

> ... oh, and thanks, Lazlo, for understanding my question, answering it, and
> making me feel vaguely silly for asking it=)

No problem, that last one is always my particular favorite. :-)

--
::: Lazlo ([e-mail]; http://www.swcp.com/lazlo)

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From: "Lazlo Nibble" <[e-mail]>
Subject: first Orbital choon
Date: 04 Jan 1997 22:52:43 -0700 (MST)

> I am interested to know this...how did all you people first get into
> Orbital, what was the first Orbital choon you ever heard and what
> effect did it have on you?

My first Orbital was "Deeper", which a friend in Europe taped off for me back
when people were still calling this stuff "bleep" . . . between "Deeper" and
the other (then-current!) tracks on the tape ("Test One", "A Huge Ever-Growing
Pulsating Brain...", "The Sun Rising", "Infinity", "Sueno Latino") I was
quickly in very deep trouble with my local record shops. :-)

--
::: Lazlo ([e-mail]; http://www.swcp.com/lazlo)

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From: "Lazlo Nibble" <[e-mail]>
Subject: re:(orbital) Getting those elusive B-sides
Date: 04 Jan 1997 22:55:28 -0700 (MST)

> i'd love the catalog number and full title of the CDN comp if i could
> trouble you so...  thanks steve

You're looking for "Give Peace A Dance Volume 3 - Psychotic Reactions" (UK
1992; CND DISARM 5 CD).  Not a bad compilation but in general I prefer the
first two.  Too bad they seemed to stop after #3 though!

--
::: Lazlo ([e-mail]; http://www.swcp.com/lazlo)

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From: tsee <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: first Orbital choon?
Date: 04 Jan 1997 22:02:11 -0800

>Orbital is now my favorite band of all time and I don't think I'll ever hear
>anything as beuatiful as "Out There Somewhere?"...
>

                Yeah I know Shaun.  I also really love the beginning of Dwr
Budr.  The woman's voice is so soothing mmm.  I don't have anything from
Moby though.  Do they have a snail mail like Orbital (ya know, a list of
fans that email each other)?

        Bye

    Trent See


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From: Shaun Rader <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: Orbital interview on 120 minutes
Date: 04 Jan 1997 22:16:42 -0800

[e-mail] wrote:

>     Yeah, MTV did a 180minute-long special edition of the show a few nights
> ago, sort of a spotlight on the groups who played the KROQ show.  They
> didn't have a very long interview, just a few questions, maybe a couple of
> minutes, but they did play "the Box" afterwards.  It's been odd... I don't
> watch MTV much, or tv peoriod for that matter, but whenever I turn it on,
> within 10 minutes I see the chemical brothers, the prodge, or orbital.  I
> wish they always played that many techno videos!  I gotta go set up the VCR
> to tape tonights AMP, so I can have something to bring back to the dorms
> with me.

Did you know that they showed that 120 minutes at least twice?  I saw that
interview on Tuesday and then on Sunday again.  I wish they showed some
live footage of them from the concert (like they did with a few others).

I thought their interview was pretty good with Matt Pinfield (if that's his name).
Did you notice he mentioned that it wasn't their first time on the show (live
in person I assume).  When was the last time??  I could kick myself for
missing that...

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From: "Andy C Toth" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: The movie "HACKERS"
Date: 05 Jan 1997 01:21:45 -0500

Yeah it was pretty amusing (i.e. WOW you have a 28K modem with a PCI Bus!!,
and I was like "doesn't everyone")  It must be about 2 years old.

Also, I am very new to Orbital.  I bought In Sides about 2 months ago, and
they are so great I've decided to get more albums.  (I know there's only
5....but could someone recommend the next one I should get)

Andy

----------
> From: tsee <[e-mail]>
> To: [e-mail]
> Subject: The movie "HACKERS"
> Date: Saturday, January 04, 1997 9:12 PM
>
> Well, just finished the movie "Hackers".  If you haven't seen it, I would
> suggest it as it was quite entertaining.  At least the computer
references
> in the movie aren't dated yet.
>
> The music is good in the movie also.  I was surprised and happy to hear
> Halcyon & On & On and also Cowgirl.  Cool tunes in that movie.  I believe
I
> also saw them playing the game Wipeout in it.
>
> Anyhow, a cool flick to watch.  I tried to get the names of the bands
used
> in the film except for the fact that my TV is so small that reading the
> names became impossible--I'll have to take the tape to a friend's house
with
> a bigger TV.
>
>         Bye
>     Trent See

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From: "Ravis1" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: The movie "HACKERS"
Date: 05 Jan 1997 01:07:49 -0600

It would have been acceptable with "...28K modem..." but in the two minutes
I watched of it, the guy said something like "...28 point 8 kay bee pee
ess...".  I was waiting for "and sixteen megs of Random Access Memory"

----------
> From: Andy C Toth <[e-mail]>
>
> Yeah it was pretty amusing (i.e. WOW you have a 28K modem with a PCI
Bus!!,
> and I was like "doesn't everyone")  It must be about 2 years old.
>


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From: [e-mail] (Tom Metro)
Subject: Re: The movie "HACKERS"
Date: 05 Jan 1997 02:36:51 EST

> The music is good in the movie also.  I was surprised and happy to
> hear Halcyon & On & On...
It was the first time I had heard the "On + On" version and it was
what kept me watching the movie the first time I ran across it on
cable (last spring). It's the best use of Orbital in a movie that
I've seen. It made good use of the dramatic effect of the tune,
unlike in "Shopping" where the music was more like background filler.

I ran into it again today (probably the same broadcast you saw) and
was captivated enough to watch it again.

> ...and also Cowgirl.  Cool tunes in that movie.
I didn't catch "Cowgirl," but I did recognize several other tracks
this time around. Some of which I've heard for the first time only
recently on AMP.

Perhaps not the greatest film, but a fun flick none the less.

 -Tom

--
Tom Metro                                         [e-mail]
Venture Logic                                     [e-mail]
Newton, MA, USA

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From: Shaun Rader <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: first Orbital choon?
Date: 05 Jan 1997 00:07:00 -0800

tsee wrote:

>                 Yeah I know Shaun.  I also really love the beginning of Dwr
> Budr.  The woman's voice is so soothing mmm.  I don't have anything from
> Moby though.  Do they have a snail mail like Orbital (ya know, a list of
> fans that email each other)?

Yeah, Moby (just one person) has a mailing list too.  Moby isn't as good as
Orbital but he has made some great electrnoic music.  I would suggest the
EP "Move" if you want some good stuff.  If you don't mind spending a bit,
find the "Everything is Wrong - Mixed and Remixed" double CD.

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From: Shaun Rader <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: The movie "HACKERS"
Date: 05 Jan 1997 00:34:09 -0800

Tom Metro[SMTP:[e-mail]] wrote:

> It was the first time I had heard the "On + On" version and it was
> what kept me watching the movie the first time I ran across it on
> cable (last spring). It's the best use of Orbital in a movie that
> I've seen. It made good use of the dramatic effect of the tune,
> unlike in "Shopping" where the music was more like background filler.

Really?  I thought that was kind of a poor usage compared to the Mortal
Kombat movie.  That is the perfect usage of "Halcyon+on+on"!  I can't
really describe it, you just have to see it.  Maybe it was just because I saw
it in the theater...


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From: Ernesto Perez <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) Getting those elusive B-sides
Date: 05 Jan 1997 02:57:22 -0600

>
> >I also saw 'Funky Alternatives' in the shops the other day, which has
> >'Open Mind' on it. Haven't made up my mind if this is worth getting
> >though, just for that one song. Recomendations, anyone?
>

the OPEN MIND mixes were released in the States on the B-Side of Chime
(which are basically some of the versions off Mutations). Other than
that I don't think it is available on vinyl unless you get the Funky
Alternatives 6 compilation (which I have). Anyone else know where I
might find Open Mind here in the States?

dj ernie

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From: Ernesto Perez <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: first Orbital choon
Date: 05 Jan 1997 02:59:20 -0600

tsee wrote:

>         I was looking for a CD called L.A. Hardcore Volume 1 that has one of
> Olivia D.'s sensual girls paintings on the cover :-).  While in the Tower
> Records store down in El Cajon, California (hmm, El Cajon means 'the box' in
> spanish :-)),

actually it means "the drawer"; the box is "la caja"

sorry to be picky

dj ernie

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From: Shaun Rader <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: Dwr Budr and other questions
Date: 05 Jan 1997 01:00:21 -0800

[e-mail] wrote:

> Well, I've never noticed the shifting sound in Out There Somewhere, so....
>  Anyway, the girl whispers "close your eyes" near the end of Dwr Budr.....she
> starts repeating it at the end of that pattern they use....i don't know how
> to explain it really, but i like it...listen for it.

It's just the vocal at the end of the song right?  I can kind of make out "close
your eyes" if that's what you're talking about.  It's not really whispered right?
It shifts from right to left all the way 'till the end?

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From: Ernesto Perez <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: The movie "HACKERS"
Date: 05 Jan 1997 03:11:32 -0600

tsee wrote:
>
> Well, just finished the movie "Hackers".  If you haven't seen it, I would
> suggest it as it was quite entertaining.  At least the computer references
> in the movie aren't dated yet.
>
> The music is good in the movie also.  I was surprised and happy to hear
> Halcyon & On & On and also Cowgirl.  Cool tunes in that movie.  I believe I
> also saw them playing the game Wipeout in it.
>
> Anyhow, a cool flick to watch.  I tried to get the names of the bands used
> in the film except for the fact that my TV is so small that reading the
> names became impossible--I'll have to take the tape to a friend's house with
> a bigger TV.


or you could get the soundtrack.
by the way, the main character in the movie is also Sickboy from
Trainspotting...


dj ernie

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From: Ernesto Perez <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: first Orbital choon?
Date: 05 Jan 1997 03:28:48 -0600

Shaun Rader wrote:

>
> Orbital is now my favorite band of all time and I don't think I'll ever hear
> anything as beuatiful as "Out There Somewhere?"...
>
i have to agree!

my first orbital song story goes like this:
i had pickd up a copy of FINKY ALTERNATIVES 6 because there was a remix
of Kode IV's POSSESSED on it and at the time I was mostly spinning new
wave/alternative/industrial stuff and so it was by accident that i
entered the realm of techno. I loved OPEN MIND. it was the most intense
electronicmusic i had ever heard. i have been listening to Kraftwerk
since i was two or three (an uncle of mine had bought me a copy of
AUTOBAHN) and OPEN MIND was like a return to that kind of music. so i
kept an ear out for other orbital stff and then heard CHIME CRIME being
played at Gramaphone (the ONLY dj record here in Chicago)ûû-i HAD to buy
it. ever since then i have been a diehard fan. they have never failed to
amaze me.

so there, my .02.

dj ernie

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From: "Stephen Goss" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: first Orbital choon
Date: 05 Jan 1997 01:27:10 -0800

> I am interested to know this...how did all you people first get into
> Orbital, what was the first Orbital choon you ever heard and what
> effect did it have on you?

I bought the green album w/out listening to it. First track I heard was
Belfast but I really fell in love with Speed Freak.

Interesting tidbit: I work at a local Burger King and the music that is
played in the dining room comes in from an official Burger King muzak
satellite. We had it set to the "hit line" and while I was wiping down
tables I realized I was hearing The Box off the In Sides CD. I had to go
back but what I did here was from the fourth track off the CD. I was
surprised to here this from a satellite that usually spends the entire day
switching back and forth between Beck and Oasis.

Do this (because I know you haven't in a while) take whatever CD out of
your player that's in there and put in Orbital 2 the brown one and listen
to it (you may skip the first track). There, now wasn't that better!

-Steve Goss
[e-mail]

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: The movie "HACKERS"
Date: 05 Jan 1997 04:54:14 -0500

In a message dated 97-01-04 21:18:05 EST, you write:

<< Anyhow, a cool flick to watch.  I tried to get the names of the bands used
 in the film except for the fact that my TV is so small that reading the
 names became impossible--I'll have to take the tape to a friend's house with
 a bigger TV. >>

The soundtrack goes like this:
1.Hruder & Darfmeister-Original Bedroom Rockers
2.Underworld-cowgirl
3.Prodigy-voodoo people
4.Leftfield-open up
5.Carl Cox-Phoebus Apollo
6.Josh Abrahams-The Joker
7.Orbital-Halcyon+on+on
8.Plastico-Communicate
9.Prodigy-One Love
10.Stereo M.C's-connected
11.Ramshackle-Eyes,Lips,body
12.Urban Dance Squad-Good grief
13.Machines of Loving Grace-Richest junkie still alive
14.Squeeze-Heaven knows

I have the soundtrack it fuckin rox.  Hackers is the best movie ever made!!!
 I bought it a while ago.  If anyone hasn't seen it I recommend it.
C ya Keep the Rave Alive
Morpheus

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Advice
Date: 05 Jan 1997 04:59:19 -0500



<< Also, I am very new to Orbital.  I bought In Sides about 2 months ago, and
 they are so great I've decided to get more albums.  (I know there's only
 5....but could someone recommend the next one I should get)
  >>

The next one to get would be Diversions or the Brown album.  Others may
disagree.  I haven't heard the green album yet though.

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: The movie "HACKERS"
Date: 05 Jan 1997 05:01:33 -0500



<< Really?  I thought that was kind of a poor usage compared to the Mortal
 Kombat movie.  That is the perfect usage of "Halcyon+on+on"!  I can't
 really describe it, you just have to see it.  Maybe it was just because I
saw
 it in the theater... >>

I agree deeply.

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: The movie "HACKERS"
Date: 05 Jan 1997 05:03:50 -0500

In a message dated 97-01-05 04:04:45 EST, you write:

<< or you could get the soundtrack.
 by the way, the main character in the movie is also Sickboy from
 Trainspotting...
  >>

No it's not.  Johnny Lee Miller which is Dade in Hackers is in Trainspotting,
but he is not Sickboy.  Trust me, I know everything about the movie Hackers.
Morpheus

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: first Orbital choon
Date: 05 Jan 1997 15:17:37 GMT


>Has anyone else noticed a similar feeling to Orbital's music in the =
music=20
>of Wagner? His music is also rich and complex, with the same sureness of=
=20

funny you should say that, 'cos I always say that Orbital is modern
classical music, one thing I'll be sure of...their music will probably
be around for centuries just like the old classical composers.
Look at The Box, a huge peice of music with four seperate movements,
if you have ever experienced a classical music CD (I'm not in2
classical but parents are) then the choons are layed out in exactly
the same way. That's enough ranting...

take it easy
  _________________  ______  ___________   ___
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    |   |  |        |       |       |\_     _/
    |   |  |        |       |       |  |   |
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From: Andrew Jackson <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: Re: SECRET of SATAN release!
Date: 03 Jan 1997 09:42:50 GMT

It'll be Halcyon - to satisfy the demand for the BC/BJ samples (and which
they said they'd never release in the UK....)

Well, just a little prediction...

Andy


"For my birthday I got a humidifier and a de-humidifier.
 I put them in the same room and let them fight it out."
(Stephen Wright)

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From: Eric <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: music
Date: 05 Jan 1997 15:54:38 +0000

At 11:56 AM 12/30/96 +0000, you wrote:
>since someone asked what type of music we all listen to...
>   seems like most people on this list have been mentioning very little
>besides techno. i like the orb, future sound of london, etc... but some of
>my other favourite stuff is stereolab, pram, the pogues, st. etienne,
>dubstar... and even oasis.
>   but the real reason i'm writing is that i see tricky is playing sf in
>january. i've seen his name on this mailing list from people who like
>him... and i like his first cd. but has anyone seen him live? is it worth
>checking out?
>tom
>
>
>
I've read on Usenet that his live shows are really awful. But everyone has a
right to see for themselves.....


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From: Eric <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: it's getting closer--AMP
Date: 05 Jan 1997 16:06:58 +0000


>
>  I think the evil, commercialized MTV has been playing more chemical
>brothers (as well as orbital) videos due to their (new?) show AMP.  The
>videos I've seen off of amp include FSOL's "My kingdom", Chemical
>Brother's "Setting Sun", and Orbital's "The Box".
>  If you folks haven't seen AMP you "gots ta" see it.  Videos by The
>Prodigy, Aphex Twin, FSOL, Orbital, Chemical brothers, Underworld, Cj
>Bolland, Tricky, and etc....
>  It comes on at 2:00 am (times are eastern) friday NIGHT, and 1:00 am
>Saturday NIGHT....Check it out.
>

Yeh, AMP was neat to see at first but now after repetitive videos (from
MTV?, you've got to be kidding!) I'm pretty dissapointed. You would think
that MTV would have enough Techno videos in their catalog to avoid repeats.
Besides, whose idea was it to play that video by Atari Teenage Riot? That
was pure crap!


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From: Kevin Neff <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: not halcyon
Date: 05 Jan 1997 12:57:02 -0500

The Box wrote:
>
> On Thu, 2 Jan 1997, Aaron Murray wrote:
>
> > grrrr! Blockbuster Music sucks! they haven't even heard of the UK
> > release yet! what idiots! now i have to drive all over the place to find
> > it.. ugh.. sometimes i wish the brothers were from the states.. it would
> > be so much easier to find their stuff..
>
> No kidding. I *work* for Blockbuster Music. Not even in our damn
> computers.
>
> halcyon <n> - A fabled bird, identified with the kingfisher, that was
> supposed to have had the power to calm the wind and the waves during
> winter solstice while it rested on the sea.
>       <adj> - 1. Calm and peaceful; tranquil.
>               2. Prosperous; golden.I got most of my orbital cd's from Border's Books and Music.  They had
just about all of the american releases and a few imports.

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: The movie "HACKERS"
Date: 05 Jan 1997 13:29:58 -0500

Johnny Lee Miller plays sick boy in Trainspotting. Check the Cast List. I
would know, I am obsessed with the film.

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: first Orbital choon?
Date: 05 Jan 1997 18:46:29 GMT


>entered the realm of techno. I loved OPEN MIND. it was the most intense
>electronicmusic i had ever heard. i have been listening to Kraftwerk
>since i was two or three (an uncle of mine had bought me a copy of
>AUTOBAHN) and OPEN MIND was like a return to that kind of music. so i
>kept an ear out for other orbital stff and then heard CHIME CRIME being

never heard either of them myself (sob sob) :(
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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: Advice
Date: 05 Jan 1997 18:46:40 GMT


><< Also, I am very new to Orbital.  I bought In Sides about 2 months =
ago, and
> they are so great I've decided to get more albums.  (I know there's =
only
> 5....but could someone recommend the next one I should get)

well, for a start there's only 4 albums, not 5, Diversions is an EP.
I reckon you get the green album next, then work your way forwards to
the present releases.

take it easy
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From: [e-mail]
Subject: OH MY SATAN!!!
Date: 05 Jan 1997 18:46:45 GMT

Listeneing to the UK top 40 at the moment, Satan Live (industry
standard edit) is being blasted out of the radio at chart position
NUMBER 3!!!!!!!!!!!
well done boys.

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: music
Date: 05 Jan 1997 14:06:25 -0500

    but the real reason i'm writing is that i see tricky is playing sf in
>january. i've seen his name on this mailing list from people who like
>him... and i like his first cd. but has anyone seen him live? is it worth
>checking out?
>tom
     Im not sure what the live shows are like from Tricky, but his new album
is fairly well rounded.  I will be seeing him in Detroit, so will find out
how he is live.
     On the subject of Tricky, has anyone heard about the argument that
ensued between Goldie and Tricky over a photograph for the press.  I guess
Goldie threatened to kick Tricky's butt for not taking a picture with him.
 Tricky wouldn't fight him because he had a skirt on at the time=)  Its off
the subject, but I thought It would be a cool little tidbit of info.

            DJRavery
"Who pushed that darned armageddon button?"

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From: Martin Ayrton <[e-mail]>
Subject: Orbital No.3 - NICE ONE!
Date: 05 Jan 1997 19:06:10 +0000

Many congrats to the Bro's Hartnoll, straight in the UK chart at
No.3 :))))))))

I was well chuffed to pick up all three CD's for under 6quid, I
don't know how they made any money on that at all.

Looking forward to this Thursday's TOTP, will the 'POLL TAX' ban
be lifted ?

Good news all round for UK Dance Music in general.

Mobeus Martin :)



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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: Advice
Date: 05 Jan 1997 14:08:17 -0500

In a message dated 97-01-05 05:01:56 EST, you write:

<<  Also, I am very new to Orbital.  I bought In Sides about 2 months ago,
and
  they are so great I've decided to get more albums.  (I know there's only
  5....but could someone recommend the next one I should get)
   >> >>
    My advice is to geet what you can find.  You wont go wrong with any of
their albums.  Brown and Green must be a priority, though.

   DJRavery

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From: Duncan Price <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: it's getting closer--AMP
Date: 05 Jan 1997 14:11:59 -0500

Word on the ATR crap!

Yes indeed....after only several episodes, MTV's AMP is already wearing out...

I must have seen "The Box" 20 times now...  MTV is pure REPEAT hell!

Knew it was too good to last.   Hope MTV doesn't completely ruin good techno
this year.

:o)

Peace out,
Duncan




At 04:06 PM 1/5/97 +0000, you wrote:
>
>>
>>  I think the evil, commercialized MTV has been playing more chemical
>>brothers (as well as orbital) videos due to their (new?) show AMP.  The
>>videos I've seen off of amp include FSOL's "My kingdom", Chemical
>>Brother's "Setting Sun", and Orbital's "The Box".
>>  If you folks haven't seen AMP you "gots ta" see it.  Videos by The
>>Prodigy, Aphex Twin, FSOL, Orbital, Chemical brothers, Underworld, Cj
>>Bolland, Tricky, and etc....
>>  It comes on at 2:00 am (times are eastern) friday NIGHT, and 1:00 am
>>Saturday NIGHT....Check it out.
>>
>
>Yeh, AMP was neat to see at first but now after repetitive videos (from
>MTV?, you've got to be kidding!) I'm pretty dissapointed. You would think
>that MTV would have enough Techno videos in their catalog to avoid repeats.
>Besides, whose idea was it to play that video by Atari Teenage Riot? That
>was pure crap!
>
>


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From: "Ravis1" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: The movie "HACKERS"
Date: 05 Jan 1997 13:38:12 -0600

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> No it's not.  Johnny Lee Miller which is Dade in Hackers is in
Trainspotting,
> but he is not Sickboy.  Trust me, I know everything about the movie
Hackers.
> Morpheus


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From: "^EA^" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: it's getting closer--AMP
Date: 05 Jan 1997 15:03:31 -0800

> From: Eric <[e-mail]>

> Yeh, AMP was neat to see at first but now after repetitive videos (from
> MTV?, you've got to be kidding!) I'm pretty dissapointed. You would think
> that MTV would have enough Techno videos in their catalog to avoid
repeats.

Yes i've noticed this too, drives me nuts.What happened to the Box video is
it now showing at "prime time" ?

> Besides, whose idea was it to play that video by Atari Teenage Riot? That
> was pure crap!

Yep god awfull

Mick

>

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From: ^EA^ <[e-mail]>
Subject: Omen
Date: 05 Jan 1997 19:06:36 -0800

I just recently got to hear "Omen", the sample "i've seen the future i
can't afford it....."  would'nt happen to be ABC from the album How to
be a zillionaire?

Mick


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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: music
Date: 06 Jan 1997 00:40:29 GMT


>I've read on Usenet that his live shows are really awful. But everyone =
has a
>right to see for themselves.....=20

I used to be quite into Tricky until I found it a little boring. I
still like some of his stuff now but I don't make a point of hearing
any new stuff. Whilst I still liked his music I caught some TV footage
of him live, at Glastonbury festival 1995 I think, one of the big
festivals anyway. To be honest, I thought that it was pretty awful.

take it easy
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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: Orbital No.3 - NICE ONE!
Date: 06 Jan 1997 00:40:40 GMT


>I was well chuffed to pick up all three CD's for under 6quid, I=20
>don't know how they made any money on that at all.=20

that's the thing about releases on multiple CDs, if you buy all three
CDs as most people will have, it counts as 3 sales and not 1 sale. If
they had released it on one CD only there's probably no way it would
have got to No.3!!!

Still, never mind. I also heard on the radio that they are releasing a
new EP later this month, is this true? (I've also heard on radio one
that Paul Hartnoll is an easy listening DJ - he was buying such
records to sample from)

take it easy
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From: "Lazlo Nibble" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) Getting those elusive B-sides
Date: 05 Jan 1997 21:28:10 -0700 (MST)

> the OPEN MIND mixes were released in the States on the B-Side of Chime
> (which are basically some of the versions off Mutations). Other than
> that I don't think it is available on vinyl unless you get the Funky
> Alternatives 6 compilation (which I have). Anyone else know where I
> might find Open Mind here in the States?

As far as I know the only place it was ever released in the US is on that
"Chime"  12" you mentioned, unless it turned up buried on some compilation
somewhere.

--
::: Lazlo ([e-mail]; http://www.swcp.com/lazlo)

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From: tsee <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: The movie "HACKERS"
Date: 05 Jan 1997 21:32:34 -0800

>The soundtrack goes like this:
>1.Hruder & Darfmeister-Original Bedroom Rockers
>2.Underworld-cowgirl
>3.Prodigy-voodoo people
>4.Leftfield-open up
>5.Carl Cox-Phoebus Apollo
>6.Josh Abrahams-The Joker
>7.Orbital-Halcyon+on+on
>8.Plastico-Communicate
>9.Prodigy-One Love
>10.Stereo M.C's-connected
>11.Ramshackle-Eyes,Lips,body
>12.Urban Dance Squad-Good grief
>13.Machines of Loving Grace-Richest junkie still alive
>14.Squeeze-Heaven knows
>
>I have the soundtrack it fuckin rox.  Hackers is the best movie ever made!!!
> I bought it a while ago.  If anyone hasn't seen it I recommend it.
>C ya Keep the Rave Alive
>Morpheus

                OH THANK YOU MORPHEUS!!! :-)))))))))))))))


    Trent See


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From: tsee <[e-mail]>
Subject: AMP that aired on last Saturday
Date: 05 Jan 1997 21:46:30 -0800

        Well, it was my first time seeing AMP and "The Box" video from
Orbital.  Yeah I know I am probably getting a-lot of "WHAT?!?" right now as
you read my email, but I work full-time, go to school full-time, am a
husband full-time and try to squeeze a-little time in for myself when I can
soo don't give me any shit please :-))).

        I really liked the Orbital, Ken Ishii, Alex Reece, F.S.O.L. and Sun
Electric videos and music best.  The DJ Mowgly and Atari Teenage Riot mixed
techno with different styles of music (DJM mixed Reggae-Rap with techno and
ATR mixed Speed Metal-Punk with techno).  I really didn't think they sounded
good at all.  If you are going to be techno, you should be techno, etc.

        Looking forward to the next AMP.  Everyone seems to complain that
"The Box" video keeps getting repeatedly aired.  Well, I have a question
(Steve maybe you can help), does Orbital have any other videos?  Did they
make a tape of their music videos if they did?



    Trent See


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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: The movie "HACKERS"
Date: 06 Jan 1997 01:29:23 -0500

In a message dated 97-01-06 01:27:24 EST, you write:

<< You sound sheltered. Have you ever seen any other movies? >>
FUCK YOU!!!

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From: Aleksandra Adamovic <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: The movie "HACKERS"
Date: 06 Jan 1997 08:03:07 +0100 (MET)



>
> << You sound sheltered. Have you ever seen any other movies? >>
> FUCK YOU!!!
>
  This all sounds bad...no need for this kindda talk, don't you think?
  From both of you...

  Sorry for interrupting the "discussion", but this bothers me...sure am
  not the only subscriber who feels that way...

  Sasha


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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: The movie "HACKERS"
Date: 06 Jan 1997 02:04:47 -0500 (EST)

>I have the soundtrack it fuckin rox.  Hackers is the best movie ever made!!!
> I bought it a while ago.  If anyone hasn't seen it I recommend it.
>C ya Keep the Rave Alive
>Morpheus

Loved the movie and soundtrack, especially the Prodigy and Underworld tracks.
The only problem is that now I have 3 CD's with the same version of Halcyon+
on+on and 3 different CD's with the same version of VooDoo People on them.
I'm sure this question's been asked by every newbie that's crossed through
here, so I'm sure few will mind if you answer it privately.  Anyway, the
question is: are there any compilations out there that contain remixes not
found anywhere else?  Thanks.  Slippin' back into lurk mode......

    - Lemurboy
      [e-mail]

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From: Ernesto Perez <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: The movie "HACKERS"
Date: 06 Jan 1997 02:49:59 -0600

[e-mail] wrote:
>
> Johnny Lee Miller plays sick boy in Trainspotting. Check the Cast List. I
> would know, I am obsessed with the film.

now THERE'S someone who knows what they are talking about.

dj ernie

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From: Ernesto Perez <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: first Orbital choon?
Date: 06 Jan 1997 02:51:34 -0600

[e-mail] wrote:
>
> >entered the realm of techno. I loved OPEN MIND. it was the most intense
> >electronicmusic i had ever heard. i have been listening to Kraftwerk
> >since i was two or three (an uncle of mine had bought me a copy of
> >AUTOBAHN) and OPEN MIND was like a return to that kind of music. so i
> >kept an ear out for other orbital stff and then heard CHIME CRIME being
>
> never heard either of them myself (sob sob) :(

REALLY? wow...

dj ernie

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From: Ernesto Perez <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Omen
Date: 06 Jan 1997 02:56:51 -0600

^EA^ wrote:
>
> I just recently got to hear "Omen", the sample "i've seen the future i
> can't afford it....."  would'nt happen to be ABC from the album How to
> be a zillionaire?
>
> Mick

sounds like it!

dj ernie

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Orbital Stickers
Date: 06 Jan 1997 04:21:08 -0500

     Well everyone, I got ahold of some of those stickers people were talking
about.  Ive got five to spare so if anyone has barter and trade, their yours.
Mail me privately. It was kinda funny how I got ahold of them.  I requested
Orbital at a local club since they had played Chemicals Bros earlier.  The DJ
said he would play them, and gave me the stickers to get rid of me.  It
worked!!!!

                               DJRavery
"Who pushed that darned armageddon button?"

P.S. The DJ never played Orbital that night.  But I did =)

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From: "Yan" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Alexandra Palace at New Year
Date: 06 Jan 1997 10:17:32 +0000

I don't know if anyone else has done a review of this gig, so I
thought I had better.

Okay bad news (good if you weren't there) first. 12000 people was
about 3000 too many, so much so that by the end of Orbital's set, the
room in which the Chemicals and James LaVelle were playing was at
capacity, and security didn't let anyone else in there all night! The
remaining two rooms were filled with shit, safe, sad, simple
rumpty-tumpty beat tunes. Fuck me but it was boring! Can you
imagine it? E'ing to Orbital, being taken to pieces and reconstructed
(as usual!), only to have their music followed for 7 hours with
DRIVEL!

Alright alright, spleen vented.

Orbital were, of course, absolutely brilliant. They played (cue
retentive retorts  for getting this wrong) Are We Here?, Choice,
Satan, P.E.T.R.O.L., Lush, The Girl With..., Impact, Chime. And at
least two other tracks.

The new year theme was followed by the visuals, including a 2 minute
countdwon to midnight.

And the version of Chime, well, was stunning. They incorporated the
chimes of Big Ben into the tune! Yes, everyone was slightly happy at
this point (radical understatement!). Radio1 in the UK played 1 hour
of the 1hr40min set at 11pm on 1st Jan. Anyone who taped it had
better keep quiet, 'cos its really rather good!

Enough!

yan
Ian Silvester,              "He dreams.. while he's not sleeping"
Research Associate.                             - The Chameleons

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From: "j.a.bennett" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Ally Pally
Date: 06 Jan 1997 11:18:03 GMT+0

Just a brief one
Orbital, MountUniverse.... Fucking cool
Best New Years Eve ever.
J

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: first Orbital choon?
Date: 06 Jan 1997 07:01:22 -0500

In a message dated 97-01-05 00:41:52 EST, you write:

<< Orbital is now my favorite band of all time and I don't think I'll ever
hear
 anything as beuatiful as "Out There Somewhere?"...
  >>
Oh Yeah!  Even though you misspelled "beautiful", Out There Somewhere is just
about my all time favorite tune, except maybe Lush 3, or Bjork's Hyperballad.
 Oh well, just givin ya a shout-out since you think Out There Somewhere is
awesome too!

Matt

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: first Orbital choon?
Date: 06 Jan 1997 07:08:30 -0500

In a message dated 97-01-05 03:33:39 EST, you write:

<< find the "Everything is Wrong - Mixed and Remixed" double CD.
  >>
if you're talking about the DJ mix album, you're right--that is smooth--he
mauls the original tunes, but most of them come out better than before.--I
kinda got away from listening to Moby, but I think his best work could still
be ahead of him.

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: Dwr Budr and other questions
Date: 06 Jan 1997 07:11:53 -0500

In a message dated 97-01-05 04:02:46 EST, you write:

<< It's just the vocal at the end of the song right?  I can kind of make out
"close
 your eyes" if that's what you're talking about.  It's not really whispered
right?
 It shifts from right to left all the way 'till the end?
  >>
yeah, it's not really whispered, but it's quiet enough that i call it a
whisper--my stereo's got an option called "stereo ambience" on it, and I can
make out a lot of the details in Orbital tunes a lot better with it...if you
have something like that on your stereo, try it.

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: first Orbital choon
Date: 06 Jan 1997 07:14:40 -0500

In a message dated 97-01-05 04:40:11 EST, you write:

<< Do this (because I know you haven't in a while) take whatever CD out of
 your player that's in there and put in Orbital 2 the brown one and listen
 to it (you may skip the first track). There, now wasn't that better!
  >>
Actually, I pretty much have a permanent spot in my cd player for Orbital 2
in there, but thanx 4 the advice.  (by the way, skip the last track too)

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: What's wrong with me??
Date: 06 Jan 1997 07:34:07 -0500

Is there something wrong with me?? I'm not enjoying the Green album nearly as
much as I used to....anymore, Chime, Satan, and Choice (sometimes Midnight,
Speed Freak, and Moebius) are the only songs I still enjoy off of it.....I
can't even really say why....it just doesn't appeal to me like it did...

By the way....don't you all think that Orbital seems to attract a
particularly devoted (obsessed?) kind of fan?? I mean, we all want to hear
everything they've ever put out, and we all want to know all about them (I'm
including myself in this statement.)  Is this common, or is it just a side
effect of listening to Orbital??  Everyone I know that likes Orbital doesn't
just "like" them, they *love* them....oh well, guess I'm rambling
again....seems to be one of my hobbies.....

Matt

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (orbital) on tv, film, radio....
Date: 06 Jan 1997 08:06:35 -0500

The mention over the weekend of Hackers, Shopping and Mortal Kombat reminded
me that Paul Anderson was the director of both the last two, each having
Halcyon+on+on on the soundtrack. Obviously a fan. Anyone follow the Hollywood
rumourmill enough to do what he's doing next?

As to the charts, didn't someone say in October or November it'd go top 5?
(Sorry, not often I get predictions that right!) I assume it's the highest
new entry (I was stuck in an X reg car last night with no radio) and by
convention TOTP always plays this track. The snippet of video on the Chart
Show was from Later, so they might show bits of that instead of a live
appearance. (Any news, Steve?)

First time I heard Orbital was about 4 years ago when Faith No More (!) chose
their top three tunes on an end of year show on the Evening Session. One was
Lush 3-1 and that was it....

Looking forward to Friday (or is it Thursday? Blasted BBC schedules....)

Paul Mison, http://members.aol.com/pmison/
'all art is quite useless'- oscar wilde (from a beermat!!)

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From: [e-mail]
Subject:       re:Satan - charts
Date: 06 Jan 1997 08:27:13 EST

Hiya

> Charts are now done on Sundays.
>
> But Asda has Satan at number 11 :)
> And the Chart Show (which has nothing to do with the "Official" chart) has
> Satan at 6.
>
> My money is on number 7 still ;)

Hmm... do some of us have a pool going? :)

Orbital deserve all the recognition they want to get.  None of us have
any right to wish them less any success.  I'd love to see Orbital at
number 1... here in the states, even!

BTW... What's this confusion between Halcyon and Radiccio?  Radiccio
IS Halcyon, folks...  You WANT the US Halcyon (it has more tracks).

Mr disco


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From: [e-mail] (StarPango)
Subject: Re: CDNOW
Date: 06 Jan 1997 09:03:35 -0500

>does anyone know if CDNow has a copy of the origional release of Halcyon,
>with the vocals and guitar samples intact?  Ive been looking for that one for
>a while now.
i emailed one of the people at CDNOW that does special orders for me for
things they don't have on there website.  this was about a month
ago........gave them the cat # for the the non- radiccio Halycon single
that i was looking for and they got it for me :)   try the manager....it
was ...i think $6.79 plus shipping



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From: [e-mail] (StarPango)
Subject: Star's Back
Date: 06 Jan 1997 09:19:50 -0500

        OK......can someone do me the pleasure of filling me in on all that
I have missed since January 6th???????     .......hmmmm i have 1297
messages to read and i don't want to read them all :)  I assume those of
you that i sent packages to in England, Croatia and the USA got them
ok???....let me know what you think about the stuff.   had a wonderful
vacation.  Hey Loopz...what's the rumble about the 12" of Impact......is it
still up for bid.......i got money if you have a price tag.    probably see
the important people on the IRC in a day or so......cheers.....its good to
be back!!


StarPango

[e-mail]
.....IRC - us.undernet.org@#orbital....StarPango



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From: [e-mail]
Subject: re:Radio 1/Charts/Commercial Stuff
Date: 06 Jan 1997 13:53:46 GMT


What a weekend,

Orbital charts at numero 3 in the Uk Charts (official).
Radio 1 Dj - says this is The Orbital - nightmare (he says this twice -
cant they read inlays!).

Then he says "They will have an EP out this month" - complete bollox.

Also evidentally the big papers are after juicy stories about Orbital -
but they aint got any! :)

This is why Orbital and commercial music shouldnt mix.

Last thing Orbital WONT be doing Top Of The Pops (another relief) and they
have put forward that the Unofficial video (Jools Holland) cannot be shown
on TOTP - but whether they do or not is another question.

So there you go....they will shoot out the charts next week (well out the
Top 10) - they made an impact on the seen charts (album charts do mean
nothing here) , now time to move on - new album is next.

Cheers

Steve "LOOPZ" Price.
Orbital Zine.

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From: "RCOPELLO.HFM.COM" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Eat Static
Date: 06 Jan 1997 11:32:06 -0500


Is there anyone on this list in to Eat Satic?


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From: Aaron Murray <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Eat Static
Date: 06 Jan 1997 12:06:26 -0600

RCOPELLO.HFM.COM wrote:
>
> Is there anyone on this list in to Eat Satic?

I am.. i love Abduction..

            aaron

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From: Easley Jerry W <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: FSOL/equipment/Orb
Date: 06 Jan 1997 14:05:45 -0600 (CST)

leave orbital


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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: The movie "HACKERS"
Date: 06 Jan 1997 18:22:51 -0500

thank you!

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From: [e-mail] (Deborah Brooks)
Subject: Re: first Orbital choon?
Date: 06 Jan 1997 18:48:41 -0500

You were saying Moby's best work lies ahead.  His new CD is titled
"Animal Rights"-as far as I know it's stil only available as an import.
From what I hear it is a guitar-based rock and roll album.

Luv ya,
R.J.

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From: "Stephen Goss" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Eat Static
Date: 06 Jan 1997 15:54:05 -0800

> Is there anyone on this list in to Eat Static?

Once upon a time I bought an Eat Static CD for a friend but never for
myself. I loved it after hearing it but I never found any Eat Static CD's
in the stores around town after that. I don't have much cash to run around
ordering CD's so I guess I hope my friend listens to it and enjoys it. :<


Steve Goss
[e-mail]



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From: "Stephen Goss" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: FSOL/equipment/Orb
Date: 06 Jan 1997 15:57:42 -0800

> leave orbital
no thanks



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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: The movie "HACKERS"
Date: 06 Jan 1997 19:23:37 -0500

In a message dated 97-01-06 01:32:01 EST, you write:

<<
 In a message dated 97-01-06 01:27:24 EST, you write:

 << You sound sheltered. Have you ever seen any other movies? >>
 FUCK YOU!!! >>
hahahaha....now children.....

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From: Greg Liu <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Forgot something...
Date: 06 Jan 1997 16:36:29 -0800 (PST)

"Dwr Budr" means Dirty Water or something like that but i don't remember
what language - i read that somewhere a while back

Greg

On Thu, 2 Jan 1997, tsee wrote:

> At 01:04 AM 1/3/97 +0100, you wrote:
> >Yeah. I forgot to ask you all of an opinion.
> >Why are the Hartnolls so obsessed with undrinkable water ? I mean, "Kein
> >Trink Wasser", "Dwr Budr" ..
> >or is this also a coincidence ?
>
>         Excuse my ignorance but, "Kein Trink Wasser"? (this must be
> German--wasser=water) "Dwr Budr"? ? :-| ? *scratching head*
>
>         What do they stand for/mean (besides undrinkable water-duh).
>
> Trent | tnerT
>
>


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From: The Box <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: I need advice
Date: 06 Jan 1997 19:40:28 -0500 (EST)

On Fri, 3 Jan 1997, Kevin Neff wrote:

> >         It *says* Halcyon, but they sure as hell sent me the 'Radiccio'
> > CD...
> >
> > halcyon <n> - A fabled bird, identified with the kingfisher, that was
> > supposed to have had the power to calm the wind and the waves during
> > winter solstice while it rested on the sea.
> >       <adj> - 1. Calm and peaceful; tranquil.
> >               2. Prosperous; golden.

> They named the song after a tranquilizer medicine.

I am aware of that.. I just stuck the definition on there because I liked
it. The US version of the CD is called 'Halcyon'. The UK version is titled
'Radiccio'.


halcyon <n> - A fabled bird, identified with the kingfisher, that was
supposed to have had the power to calm the wind and the waves during
winter solstice while it rested on the sea.
      <adj> - 1. Calm and peaceful; tranquil.
          2. Prosperous; golden.


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From: The Box <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: first Orbital choon?
Date: 06 Jan 1997 19:48:02 -0500 (EST)

On Sat, 4 Jan 1997 [e-mail] wrote:

> << I am interested to know this...how did all you people first get into
>  Orbital, what was the first Orbital choon you ever heard and what
>  effect did it have on you? >>

    I must admit it was 'Halcyon + On + On' from the Mortal Kombat CD
that got me started. I went out and bought 'Snivilisation' (aka the ONLY
orbital CD in the entire city at that time) and the rest, as they say, is
history. But I must say I was shocked when I first listened to it. Not
quite at all like Halcyon..<grin>

halcyon <n> - A fabled bird, identified with the kingfisher, that was
supposed to have had the power to calm the wind and the waves during
winter solstice while it rested on the sea.
      <adj> - 1. Calm and peaceful; tranquil.
          2. Prosperous; golden.


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From: The Box <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: The movie "HACKERS"
Date: 06 Jan 1997 19:57:10 -0500 (EST)

On Sun, 5 Jan 1997 [e-mail] wrote:

>
> In a message dated 97-01-05 04:04:45 EST, you write:
> No it's not.  Johnny Lee Miller which is Dade in Hackers is in Trainspotting,
> but he is not Sickboy.  Trust me, I know everything about the movie Hackers.
> Morpheus

Errr, yes it is. Jonny Lee Miller. I promise. He's on the cover of both
CD's, too.

halcyon <n> - A fabled bird, identified with the kingfisher, that was
supposed to have had the power to calm the wind and the waves during
winter solstice while it rested on the sea.
      <adj> - 1. Calm and peaceful; tranquil.
          2. Prosperous; golden.


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From: The Box <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: music
Date: 06 Jan 1997 20:00:12 -0500 (EST)

On Sun, 5 Jan 1997 [e-mail] wrote:

>      On the subject of Tricky, has anyone heard about the argument that
> ensued between Goldie and Tricky over a photograph for the press.  I guess
> Goldie threatened to kick Tricky's butt for not taking a picture with him.
>  Tricky wouldn't fight him because he had a skirt on at the time=)  Its off
> the subject, but I thought It would be a cool little tidbit of info.

    I don't know about that, but I know they both got thrown out of a
club during the CMJ Festival in New York last summer. They got into a
fight of some kind over Bjork. (Goldie's current, Tricky's ex, i think)


halcyon <n> - A fabled bird, identified with the kingfisher, that was
supposed to have had the power to calm the wind and the waves during
winter solstice while it rested on the sea.
      <adj> - 1. Calm and peaceful; tranquil.
          2. Prosperous; golden.


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From: The Box <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: The movie "HACKERS"
Date: 06 Jan 1997 20:04:23 -0500 (EST)

On Mon, 6 Jan 1997 [e-mail] wrote:

> Loved the movie and soundtrack, especially the Prodigy and Underworld tracks.
> The only problem is that now I have 3 CD's with the same version of Halcyon+
> on+on and 3 different CD's with the same version of VooDoo People on them.
> I'm sure this question's been asked by every newbie that's crossed through
> here, so I'm sure few will mind if you answer it privately.  Anyway, the
> question is: are there any compilations out there that contain remixes not
> found anywhere else?  Thanks.  Slippin' back into lurk mode......

    The UK Tribal Gathering '95 CD has a Chem. Brothers remix of
'Voodoo People' on it.. (but I imagine that's available elsewhere, too)


halcyon <n> - A fabled bird, identified with the kingfisher, that was
supposed to have had the power to calm the wind and the waves during
winter solstice while it rested on the sea.
      <adj> - 1. Calm and peaceful; tranquil.
          2. Prosperous; golden.


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From: The Box <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: first Orbital choon?
Date: 06 Jan 1997 20:09:33 -0500 (EST)

On Mon, 6 Jan 1997, Deborah Brooks wrote:

>
> You were saying Moby's best work lies ahead.  His new CD is titled
> "Animal Rights"-as far as I know it's stil only available as an import.
> >From what I hear it is a guitar-based rock and roll album.

    Yup. Comes out here next month officially. I got a promo copy of
the single for "That's when I reach for my revolver". It's pretty cool,
but it's definitely not techno of any kind. THe CD I got also has "Whip
It(Death Metal Version)" on it.. Interesting..


halcyon <n> - A fabled bird, identified with the kingfisher, that was
supposed to have had the power to calm the wind and the waves during
winter solstice while it rested on the sea.
      <adj> - 1. Calm and peaceful; tranquil.
          2. Prosperous; golden.


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From: Brian Davis <[e-mail]>
Subject: moby
Date: 06 Jan 1997 19:24:35 -0600

Deborah Brooks wrote:

> You were saying Moby's best work lies ahead.  His new CD is titled
> "Animal Rights"-as far as I know it's stil only available as an import.

if you care, i saw that it's coming out domestic in the early part of
Feb. (don't know if it'll be two-discs though)....and Apex's new one
comes out the last week of Jan.(and it comes with the "boy/girl" ep)
oh yeah, and any americans looking for the satan eps on-line....
http://www.sirencd.com
has all three for $9.99 a piece(and they are getting the vinyl in)
....they've got some other pretty-cool stuff too...check 'em out
Your Friendly Neighborhood Record Geek(who doesn't like Hackers, cool
soundtrack or not(...tee hee))

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From: Shaun Rader <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: first Orbital choon?
Date: 06 Jan 1997 17:25:07 -0800

The Box[SMTP:[e-mail]] wrote:

>     Yup. Comes out here next month officially. I got a promo copy of
> the single for "That's when I reach for my revolver". It's pretty cool,
> but it's definitely not techno of any kind. THe CD I got also has "Whip
> It(Death Metal Version)" on it.. Interesting..

The commercial release of "That's When I Reach For My Revolver"
has a some very good new electronic music by Moby.  "The End of
Everything" under the pseudonym of Voodoo Child is recent electronic
stuff.  Very soft, simple, electronic music.. very good stuff!

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From: Shaun Rader <[e-mail]>
Subject: Satan EP in America?
Date: 06 Jan 1997 17:29:10 -0800

I'd like to know if everyone in America all ready got the Satan EPs.  I
feel really low because I can't find them anywhere!  Anyone else
having a hard time finding them?

It's strange because I found "The Box EP" a few days after its UK
release.

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From: "Ravis1" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: first Orbital choon?
Date: 06 Jan 1997 21:03:38 -0600

>     I must admit it was 'Halcyon + On + On' from the Mortal Kombat CD
> that got me started. I went out and bought 'Snivilisation' (aka the ONLY
> orbital CD in the entire city at that time) and the rest, as they say, is
> history. But I must say I was shocked when I first listened to it. Not
> quite at all like Halcyon..<grin>
>

The more intelligent shit is unreal, huh?  There's a few other groups out
there like that, like Autechre and HIA, but its not dance music (no problem
here, though).

Travis L. Combel
Ravis1
[e-mail]

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Orb,Black Lung,Fluke,Electric Skychurch
Date: 06 Jan 1997 22:27:42 -0500

Hope you all don't mind me bringing up a few other groups but figured one of
you could probably help me out.
Orb----just got my first cd by them,Adventures Beyond the Ultraworld....was
alittle disappointed. How does this one compare to their others?
Black Lung--how many cd's do they have...and they seem hard to find!
Fluke---just found Oto and think it is great!! How many do they have and how
does Oto compare to the others?
Electric Skychurch--can NOT find any of their cd's...why not? How many do
they have? I have heard they are pretty good. What are they like/who would
youy compare them to?
Thanx...

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From: Mark S-D <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: first Orbital choon?
Date: 06 Jan 1997 22:38:57 -0500

|  \/  |   ___|     \    "You dont have to try to be equal, you already are."
|      |___   |  ;)  |
|  \/  |      |     /                    [e-mail]

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From: Mark S-D <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: first Orbital choon?
Date: 06 Jan 1997 22:38:57 -0500

My first Orbital choon was "Omen", I was totally blown away by
it and what's even more strange is it still sounds great !
Orbital tunes are like that for some reason.......     Mark S-D
------------------Forwarded message----------------------
Sender: [e-mail]
> << I am interested to know this...how did all you people first get into
>  Orbital, what was the first Orbital choon you ever heard and what
>  effect did it have on you? >>

    I must admit it was 'Halcyon + On + On' from the Mortal Kombat CD
that got me started. I went out and bought 'Snivilisation' (aka the ONLY
orbital CD in the entire city at that time) and the rest, as they say, is
history. But I must say I was shocked when I first listened to it. Not
quite at all like Halcyon..<grin>

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From: [e-mail] (Deborah Brooks)
Subject: Re: The movie "HACKERS"
Date: 06 Jan 1997 22:43:10 -0500

This is for Shad and the rest of ya.  Let's get of the Hackers tip for a
second-What are your favorite movies?  A Clockwork Orange, Tetsuo-the
Iron Man, Neo-Tokyo, and Dr. Strangelove are a few of my fav's that I
can think of off the top of my head.

Luv ya,
R.J.

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: The movie "HACKERS"
Date: 06 Jan 1997 22:45:19 -0500

In a message dated 97-01-06 21:04:59 EST, you write:

<<     Seriously... I'm not trying to initiate some sort of ridiculous war
but...
 COME ON!!! While HACKERS certainly isn't the worst film ever made, it's
definitely not
 the best. In addition to being highly unrealistic, it's basically just a
stupid
 rebellious teen flick. If you'd like, I'd gladly suggest a number of movies
from any
 genre. They might not all have groovy soundtracks but music alone doesn't
make a movie. >>

I thought there was freedom of opinion.  Why do you care what movies I like?

Morpheus

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From: [e-mail] (Jon Froines)
Subject: Re: how I first heard Orbital...
Date: 06 Jan 1997 20:08:26 -0800

Wellllll let's see.  I always saw the title Halcyon+On+On on the brown
album whenever I'd record shop, and I always thought it was the coolest
title.  But!  I really wasn't into electronic music at all at the time.  (I
hesitate to call it "techno", because that word makes me think of dumb
BAMBAMBAM club music with those TIRED cliche samples)  I started getting
into electronic music from the industrial side of things in about 1992, ie:
Frontline Assembly, KMFDM, and that sort of thing, since I was always into
the slightly less electronic heavy stuff like Prong and Pitchshifter.
(Waaaaay back when I was about 11-16, I started playing guitar and was
metalmetalmetal all the way, Venom, Slayer, Kreator, etc)

Soooooo, anyways, I heard some random electronic music at my friend's house
in 92 or 93, and heard Halcyon+On+On at last.  Wow.  Loooooooove that
track.  I immediately went out and bought the brown album.  This is right
when I was going nuts over the all electronic sort of stuff.  The same day
I bought the brown album by Orbital, I also bought Adventures in the
Ultraworld by the Orb.  Now I have all the regular albums and the
Diversions EP.  I still think the brown album is my favorite.  I don't
really even think of the separate songs, I have to listen to it all at
once.

The Box really got me back into 'em in a big way more recently.  I love the
long 4 part version on disc 2 of the American release of In-Sides.  28
minutes of sonic brain erasure and reformation.  Anybody know what the heck
the lyrics are for the singing in part 4?  I can understand parts of it,
but not all.  I can't find any of the singles around here, and I live in a
great record store area, near Berkeley, California.  All I have is the Are
We Here? CD single with 5 tracks.  Is the live thing or things coming out
in the US soon?  Nobody around here seems to know about it.  I listened to
the simulcast on KITS Live 105 FM out of San Francisco when they played the
Xmas gig at the Cow Palace and it was cooooooool.  I gotta have some live
tracks...gotta gotta gotta.

Yaknow, this is a really long message.  Sorry about that.  Bye now...


- JonYo ([e-mail])



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From: "Ravis1" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: The movie "HACKERS"
Date: 06 Jan 1997 21:56:23 -0600

Fuck us all, dude.  It is your opinion.  However, your exposing your soul
to 200 faceless freaks on the computer that could all be just one person
out to get you when you express your opinion here.

> I thought there was freedom of opinion.  Why do you care what movies I
like?
>
> Morpheus

Ravis1
[e-mail]

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From: "Nappy Head" <[e-mail]>
Subject: ??????????????????????
Date: 06 Jan 1997 23:24:55 -0500

Hi
So can anyone tell me the official release date of the new chemical
brothers album? please please!
Oh! does anyone know if it's worth my while to release a compilation c.d.
of the chems, prod, orb, orbital, and everyone else in the scene? would
people buy it?

nappy head



((( nappy head --> [e-mail] )))
(( " and they catch him, and they say he's mental... " ))



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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: Dwr Budr and other questions
Date: 07 Jan 1997 00:16:19 -0500

In a message dated 97-01-06 07:13:46 EST, you write:

<< << It's just the vocal at the end of the song right?  I can kind of make
out
 "close
  your eyes" if that's what you're talking about.  It's not really whispered
 right?
  It shifts from right to left all the way 'till the end?
   >>
 yeah, it's not really whispered, but it's quiet enough that i call it a
 whisper--my stereo's got an option called "stereo ambience" on it, and I can
 make out a lot of the details in Orbital tunes a lot better with it...if you
 have something like that on your stereo, try it. >>

I have looked for this and I can't find it.  What song is it in and what is
the time at which it happens?
Thanx.
Morpheus

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From: "Benjamin A. Woznicki" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: The movie "HACKERS"
Date: 06 Jan 1997 19:27:50 -0500

Personally I loved Hackers.  Does anyone have any other movies that they
could recommend that follows the same sort of feel.


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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: The movie "HACKERS"
Date: 07 Jan 1997 00:56:09 -0500

In a message dated 97-01-06 19:59:48 EST, you write:

<< Errr, yes it is. Jonny Lee Miller. I promise. He's on the cover of both
 CD's, too.  >>

So then is Johnny Lee Miller on the cover for the Trainspotting soundtrack
twice?  Because they show Johnny Lee Miller in one of the pictures at the
bottom and then sickboy on the top.  That's why I thought they were different
characters.

Morpheus

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: Satan EP in America?
Date: 07 Jan 1997 00:57:37 -0500

In a message dated 97-01-06 20:33:45 EST, you write:

<< I'd like to know if everyone in America all ready got the Satan EPs.  I
 feel really low because I can't find them anywhere!  Anyone else
 having a hard time finding them? >>

I am, but I live in Canada so that says it all.  HA HA!

Morpheus

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: The movie "HACKERS"
Date: 07 Jan 1997 01:01:16 -0500

In a message dated 97-01-07 00:27:19 EST, you write:

<< Personally I loved Hackers.  Does anyone have any other movies that they
 could recommend that follows the same sort of feel. >>

Well this is a long shot, but you might want to take a look at Empire
Records, or Mall Rats, or Strange Days.  They are sorta similar but not
really,  Hackers is unique.
Morpheus

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: I need advice
Date: 07 Jan 1997 01:18:05 -0500

In a message dated 97-01-06 19:43:08 EST, you write:

<< > They named the song after a tranquilizer medicine.

 I am aware of that.. I just stuck the definition on there because I liked
 it. The US version of the CD is called 'Halcyon'. The UK version is titled
 'Radiccio'. >>

They named it after the drug their mom used to take.  The highly
hullucinative ( I can't spell right now) tranquilizer named Halcyon.

Morpheus

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From: tsee <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: What's wrong with me??
Date: 06 Jan 1997 22:57:02 -0800

>Is there something wrong with me?? I'm not enjoying the Green album nearly as
>much as I used to....anymore, Chime, Satan, and Choice (sometimes Midnight,
>Speed Freak, and Moebius) are the only songs I still enjoy off of it.....I
>can't even really say why....it just doesn't appeal to me like it did...
>

                mmm, maybe you have listened to it too much, try not
listening to it for a while (say three months) and look for other tunes.
Then listen to it again to see what you think.  I do this quite often to
prevent over-playing something and keep discovering new and wonderful sounds.


>By the way....don't you all think that Orbital seems to attract a
>particularly devoted (obsessed?) kind of fan?? I mean, we all want to hear
>everything they've ever put out, and we all want to know all about them (I'm
>including myself in this statement.)  Is this common, or is it just a side
>effect of listening to Orbital??  Everyone I know that likes Orbital doesn't
>just "like" them, they *love* them....oh well, guess I'm rambling
>again....seems to be one of my hobbies.....
>
>Matt
>
>

                We are hopelessly devoted and addicted!


        Bye

    Trent See


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From: tsee <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) on tv, film, radio....
Date: 06 Jan 1997 23:00:48 -0800


>The mention over the weekend of Hackers, Shopping and Mortal Kombat reminded
>me that Paul Anderson was the director of both the last two, each having
>Halcyon+on+on on the soundtrack. Obviously a fan. Anyone follow the Hollywood
>rumourmill enough to do what he's doing next?


                Hmm, might want to keep on eye on this director, maybe we
can get him to join the list!

        Bye

    Trent See


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From: tsee <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Star's Back
Date: 06 Jan 1997 23:04:06 -0800

>probably see
>the important people on the IRC in a day or so......cheers.....its good to
>be back!!
>

                Ouch :(

>
>StarPango
>
>[e-mail]
>.....IRC - us.undernet.org@#orbital....StarPango
>
>

    Bye,

    Trent See


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From: tsee <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Eat Static
Date: 06 Jan 1997 23:11:02 -0800

At 11:32 AM 1/6/97 -0500, you wrote:
>
>Is there anyone on this list in to Eat Satic?
>

                I looked looonngg and hard for the group but couldn't find
them in the three Tower Records, four Wherehouses and two Blockbuster Musics
I went to.  Guess I'll have to wonder...

    Bye,

    Trent See


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From: tsee <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: FSOL/equipment/Orb
Date: 06 Jan 1997 23:12:40 -0800

At 02:05 PM 1/6/97 -0600, you wrote:
>leave orbital
>
                Did you just post this to post something or what...keep the
crap off please :(

    Bye,

    Trent See


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From: tsee <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: first Orbital choon?
Date: 06 Jan 1997 23:13:45 -0800

At 06:48 PM 1/6/97 -0500, you wrote:
>You were saying Moby's best work lies ahead.  His new CD is titled
>"Animal Rights"-as far as I know it's stil only available as an import.
>>From what I hear it is a guitar-based rock and roll album.
>
>Luv ya,
>R.J.
>
>
                Then maybe I just want his hold stuff.  List please :-).

    Bye,

    Trent See


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From: tsee <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: The movie "HACKERS"
Date: 06 Jan 1997 23:24:50 -0800

>Fuck us all, dude.  It is your opinion.  However, your exposing your soul
>to 200 faceless freaks on the computer that could all be just one person
>out to get you when you express your opinion here.
>
                Couldn't have said it better myself (maybe without the 'f'
word though :))))

>> I thought there was freedom of opinion.  Why do you care what movies I
>like?
>>
>> Morpheus
>
>Ravis1
>[e-mail]
>
>

                Listen all, Morpheus should be thanked for giving us the
soundtrack list a while back, NOT BASHED for giving his opinion.  We've all
got opinions.  However, I feel that, Morpheus, you could have responded in a
more intelligent way than "F U".  Next time, try to think of a response that
the brothers might have used :-)

                Come on!  Enough of the Hackers stuff, let's just have fun!

    Bye,

    Trent See


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From: Shaun Rader <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: Orb,Black Lung,Fluke,Electric Skychurch
Date: 06 Jan 1997 23:32:31 -0800

[e-mail] wrote:

> Orb----just got my first cd by them,Adventures Beyond the Ultraworld....was
> alittle disappointed. How does this one compare to their others?

I have UFOrb and Orbvs Terrervm (or however it is spelled).  It's pretty
good background music but I can't listen to it over and over like I
can with Orbital.

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From: Philip Treacy <[e-mail]>
Subject: AMP
Date: 07 Jan 1997 07:42:51

>From: "A Jacumski" <[e-mail]>
>Date: Mon, 30 Dec 1996 13:39:41 -0500
>Subject: Re: it's getting closer--AMP
>
>  If you folks haven't seen AMP you "gots ta" see it.  Videos by The
>Prodigy, Aphex Twin, FSOL, Orbital, Chemical brothers, Underworld, Cj
>Bolland, Tricky, and etc....
>  It comes on at 2:00 am (times are eastern) friday NIGHT, and 1:00 am
>Saturday NIGHT....Check it out.
>

Is AMP only shown in the States or can us poor Europeans get it too
?  I'm in the UK BTW.  I've not seen it advertised at all over here.

Phil


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From: Philip Treacy <[e-mail]>
Subject: What shall I buy next ??
Date: 07 Jan 1997 07:59:31


>From: Shad Clark <[e-mail]>
>Date: Tue, 26 Nov 1996 03:40:02 -0500
>Subject: Re: I need advice
>
>[e-mail] wrote:
>>
>> Hey i am just wondering which Orbital Cd I should get next.  You all seem to
>> have so many it's scarey :)  I already have The Brown Album, In Sides,
>> Diversions, and Snivilisation.  I know that's not too many but I live in
>> Canada, that says it all.  So if anyone could recommend a good disk to grab
>> tell me
>> Thanx
>>
>> Keep the Rave Alive
>> Morpheus
>
>       Um... How many albums do you think Orbital has? As far as albums go, you only
>seem to be missing one.
>
>                                                               Shad


Can you lay your hands on the Lush EP ?  IMO better than some of
their albums.  I just lurve it.  I could play it for days on end.
Its been some years since it was released here in the UK and I
haven't seen a copy of it for ages so your chances may be slim.
I'll keep an eye out for it if you like.

Phil


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From: Siamese Dream <[e-mail]>
Subject: The Orb
Date: 07 Jan 1997 09:28:21 +0000 (GMT)

I agree that The Orb's music is decent background music but you need to listen
to it a few times over to get yourself hooked, unlike Orbital which only needs
one listening to become completely, utterly hooked....

My fave Orb tunes are White Fluffy Clouds (beutiful voice ;-> ) and star 6 7&8,
it grows on you...

happpy vibes...

james
:-)))
[e-mail]



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From: Siamese Dream <[e-mail]>
Subject: Eat Static
Date: 07 Jan 1997 09:29:46 +0000 (GMT)

iEat Static are coool, some wicked UFO type spacey tunes.  Very weird...

james
:-)))
[e-mail]

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From: Shaun Rader <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: AMP
Date: 07 Jan 1997 01:46:55 -0800

Philip Treacy[SMTP:[e-mail]] wrote:

> Is AMP only shown in the States or can us poor Europeans get it too
> ?  I'm in the UK BTW.  I've not seen it advertised at all over here.

Poor Europeans!  You're joking right?  I could care less about AMP
if I could see Orbital concerts on MTV!!  Don't they show electronic
music there all the time?  I'm really curious, maybe I'll move down
there someday...

--
.    .   .  . .end of transmission. .  .   .    .


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From: lysergic ad naseum <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: The Orb
Date: 07 Jan 1997 04:26:33 -0600


>My fave Orb tunes are White Fluffy Clouds (beutiful voice ;-> ) and star 6 7&8,
>it grows on you...
>

little fluffy clouds?

are you listening to the version from adventures beyond the ultraworld?


                                                -lysergic

>
>
>


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From: "[e-mail] - Richard D Loughman" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Box Lyrics
Date: 07 Jan 1997 10:29:09 GMT

Below are lyrics from The Box for [e-mail] (Jon Froines) who
requested them - can't remember where I got them from!

Richard
____________________
[e-mail]
Tel.  [phone]
________________________________________________________________________________

The Box (Internal/1996/UK/LIECD 30 / 850579.2)

shared his neighbors where the building
knows who dresses up my heart
draws a picture of his future
keeps the paper close at hand
packs his tongue into a suitcase
suffers terror on the train
and he wants to start a movement
cause he's indestructible
destructible..suffers terror on the train
he's indestructible
and you know they'll never find us
and they'll leave us alone
and if we just keep on talking
then we'll still make it home
there's commotion and promotion
now they've done good every war
sell our pictures to a paper
now that everyone must know

trading satellites for substance
let spectators pay their way
we'll invade the trevi fountain
now that everyone must pay (2x)
mama and babies mother tragedy
babies mothers tragedy
babies mothers tragedy
terrifies the kill

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From: Mark S-D <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Dwr Budr and other questions
Date: 07 Jan 1997 06:13:49 -0500

Hey ! Can you find out what the hell that thing at the end of the Box on
In-Sides is (with your ambience button) ? Lot of hum and some voice way down
low, been doing my head in for ages now!!
_____________________________________________________________ Mark S-D

<< << It's just the vocal at the end of the song right?  I can kind of make
out
 "close
  your eyes" if that's what you're talking about.  It's not really whispered
 right?
  It shifts from right to left all the way 'till the end?
   >>
 yeah, it's not really whispered, but it's quiet enough that i call it a
 whisper--my stereo's got an option called "stereo ambience" on it, and I can
 make out a lot of the details in Orbital tunes a lot better with it...if you
 have something like that on your stereo, try it. >>

I have looked for this and I can't find it.  What song is it in and what is
the time at which it happens?
Thanx.
Morpheus

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From: Mark S-D <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: What's wrong with me??
Date: 07 Jan 1997 06:13:57 -0500

>Is there something wrong with me?? I'm not enjoying the Green album nearly as
>much as I used to....anymore, Chime, Satan, and Choice (sometimes Midnight,
>Speed Freak, and Moebius) are the only songs I still enjoy off of it.....I
>can't even really say why....it just doesn't appeal to me like it did...
>

                mmm, maybe you have listened to it too much, try not
listening to it for a while (say three months) and look for other tunes.
Then listen to it again to see what you think.  I do this quite often to
prevent over-playing something and keep discovering new and wonderful sounds.

.....hey, it's nearly 7 years old now. Amazing it's still good.

>By the way....don't you all think that Orbital seems to attract a
>particularly devoted (obsessed?) kind of fan?? I mean, we all want to hear
>everything they've ever put out, and we all want to know all about them (I'm
>including myself in this statement.)  Is this common, or is it just a side
>effect of listening to Orbital??  Everyone I know that likes Orbital doesn't
>just "like" them, they *love* them....oh well, guess I'm rambling
>again....seems to be one of my hobbies.....
>Matt
                We are hopelessly devoted and addicted!
        Bye
    Trent See

.............yes, a very devoted fanbase! I guess it's something in the
music we all identify strongly with, can't think what....anybody got any
ideas on this one ??? (Words fail me)           ...Mark S-D

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From: Mark S-D <[e-mail]>
Subject: What shall I buy next ??
Date: 07 Jan 1997 06:14:20 -0500

>Subject: Re: I need advice
>[e-mail] wrote:
>> Hey i am just wondering which Orbital Cd I should get next.  You all seem to
>> have so many it's scarey :)  I already have The Brown Album, In Sides,
>> Diversions, and Snivilisation.  I know that's not too many but I live in
>> Canada, that says it all.  So if anyone could recommend a good disk to grab
>> tell me
>> Thanx
>> >> Keep the Rave Alive
>> Morpheus
>       Um... How many albums do you think Orbital has? As far as albums go, you only
>seem to be missing one.
>
>                                                               Shad
Can you lay your hands on the Lush EP ?  IMO better than some of
their albums.  I just lurve it.  I could play it for days on end.
Its been some years since it was released here in the UK and I
haven't seen a copy of it for ages so your chances may be slim.
I'll keep an eye out for it if you like.
Phil
_____________________
Is semi-detatched on Diversions - I love that track, is on Peel Sessions CD
if not. Would reccommend Raddicio Part 2 for "Sunday" and the Green LP is
worth getting (even if it's just for Belfast!), some good tunes on there
which rarely get mentioned....like Desert Storm. Their sound gets more
involved as time goes by but they are all good......               Mark S-D

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From: Andrew Jackson <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Eat Static
Date: 07 Jan 1997 11:26:03 GMT


>
> Is there anyone on this list in to Eat Satic?
Yeah - I got their first Cassette-only LP and the last LP, plus a
couple of singles/EPs. I find them a bit samey and linear - not much
texture in there, but some of their stuff is hard'n'groovy.

Andy


"For my birthday I got a humidifier and a de-humidifier.
 I put them in the same room and let them fight it out."
(Stephen Wright)

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From: Andrew Jackson <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: first Orbital choon?
Date: 07 Jan 1997 11:37:14 GMT


> > << I am interested to know this...how did all you people first get into
> >  Orbital, what was the first Orbital choon you ever heard and what
> >  effect did it have on you? >>

I first heard 'Chime' on Top of the Pops in 1990(?). It seemed to be
a cut above the usual Techno stuff around that time, and I likened it
to A Guy Called Gerald's 'Voodoo Ray' which I loved (and still do).

I bought the CD singles of Chime, and then 'Omen' when it came out,
followed by the rest of their stuff in the UK. Unfortunately, my
'Chime' and 'Omen' CDs were in a pile that got stolen a few years
ago, and I've never been able to replace them.

Orbital joined Kraftwerk and Yello in my estimation as two bands with
unique sound and attitude. With 'In Sides' they finally convinced me
that it was possible to go beyond Techno and start to create a
truly original style, something which 'Techno' has striven to do for
itself for many years. They are, and remain, one of the most
important bands in music at the moment.

Just my little hagiography!

Andy Jackson


"For my birthday I got a humidifier and a de-humidifier.
 I put them in the same room and let them fight it out."
(Stephen Wright)

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From: Siamese Dream <[e-mail]>
Subject: fluffy clouds
Date: 07 Jan 1997 11:37:54 +0000 (GMT)

indeed i am referring to the Ultraworld version.  Cant remember if its
'little fluffy clouds' or 'white fluffy clouds'  whatever one it is its cool

james
:-)))
[e-mail]

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: re:Impact 12 Inch
Date: 06 Jan 1997 14:12:08 GMT

Its now at 14 Pound (English).

One week (and a bit) left....

Offers - Private mail please :)

Cheers

STeve LOOPZ Price
[e-mail]

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: re:Forgot something...
Date: 06 Jan 1997 13:54:28 GMT


> Yeah. I forgot to ask you all of an opinion.
>Why are the Hartnolls so obsessed with undrinkable water ? I mean, "Kein
>Trink Wasser", "Dwr Budr" ..
>or is this also a coincidence ?

They are obsessed with mans destruction of the environment.
Most tracks are linked with this.

Steve

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From: Jon Green <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Dwr Budr
Date: 07 Jan 1997 13:45:53 +0000

At 16:36 06/01/97 -0800, Greg Liu wrote:
>"Dwr Budr" means Dirty Water or something like that but i don't remember
>what language - i read that somewhere a while back

It's welsh, and I've no idea how to pronounce it.

Jon


Jon Green: [e-mail]
"The less effort one puts in, the greater
satisfaction one gains from a good result"



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From: "Michael A. Polisky" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Orb,Black Lung,Fluke,Electric Skychurch
Date: 07 Jan 1997 10:13:18 -0500


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[e-mail]

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From: "Michael A. Polisky" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: moby
Date: 07 Jan 1997 10:25:24 -0500


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I remember people talking about Moby re-mixing the Smashing Pumpkins
tune 1979. Is that tre? Has Anyone Heard it? Opinions? What disc is it
on?
thnks
mike!
[e-mail]

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<DT>mike!</DT>

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From: Steven Porter <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Post-Christmas...with gift certificates
Date: 07 Jan 1997 14:43:00 GMT

Hello Anthony,

If you buy one album this year or last as the case may be then
the DJ Shadow is a good choice.  The Dogs Bollox as we say
over here.

Enjoy.

Steven Porter.


On Mon, 30 Dec 1996 17:19:23 -0600 Anthony Agee wrote:

> From: Anthony Agee <[e-mail]>
> Date: Mon, 30 Dec 1996 17:19:23 -0600
> Subject: Post-Christmas...with gift certificates
> To: orbital <[e-mail]>
>
> Hey folks....sorry I've been gone so long...been busy with the
holiday
> season and all.  I got some nice gift certificates at music
stores and so I
> went and bought a few.  FSOL's "Papua New Guinea" CD and
their new "Dead
> Cities".  Both are great!  Tracks 8,10,11,12 on Dead Cities are
some of the
> best music I've heard this year.  Highly recommended!  The
drums on 10 are
> wonderful.
>
> Also, has anybody purchased/listened to DJ Shadow's
"Endtertainment" and if
> so, is it any good?
>
>
> [e-mail]
>
> Anthony Agee




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From: Steven Porter <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Some new groups
Date: 07 Jan 1997 14:40:28 GMT


Hi,
Don't get the idea that Impact is completely unavailable.  I
have seen a number of copies floating about my old record
shops in Belfast over Xmas so just keep looking.

As far as taste in electronic music goes you should try Klaus
Schulze as no one does it better.  Have a look at the official
web page to see over 50 releases and each one a winner.

I too like electribe 101 but alas they have gone.

On the more trippy ambient side of things try Ashra or Ashra
Temple, Bernd Kistenmacher, Steve Roach (Stormwarning is a
sequencer freaks dream) and of course early Tangerine Dream.

Kind Regards
Steven Porter.

On Tue, 31 Dec 1996 05:09:20 +0100 (MET) Aleksandra
Adamovic wrote:

> From: Aleksandra Adamovic <[e-mail]>
> Date: Tue, 31 Dec 1996 05:09:20 +0100 (MET)
> Subject: Re: Some new groups
> To: [e-mail]
>
>
>
>
> > Does anyone like Goldie, The Prodigy, F.S.O.L., Chemical
Brothers, Speedy J,
> > or anything else besides Orbital.  I'm just trying to see what
people's
> > complete tastes in music are.
> >
>
> I've been wondering myself waht kind of music do ppl on this
list like,
> beside Orbital...The Prodigy are a common thing already
though I really
> like them... F.S.O.L. I put in a same class as Aphex Twin and
> Plasticman and DR. Paterson (those weird guys who have
natural gift to
> cooperate with that 70% of human brain we're not aware
of)...to name but a
> few...
> BUT, I have to say I respect those who do anything to pull out
the best of
> the 70% MORE...like Orbital, Spooky, LFO, H.I.A., Salt Tank,
System 7,
> Fluke, 808 State, Underworld, Eat Static, Speedy J, Alaska, oh
> maaaaaaaaaaaan, many many more, I skipped more then a
few...
> The thing that got me listen to, what you might call, electronic
dance
> music was Detroit Techno attack back in '88 plus Acid House
fever...
> Still am a great fan of those days, wishing to float back into
the past...
> My first love (aka I gotta have anything they put their hands
on) were New
> Order, and I guess it was a good wild guess. I know, actually.
> The other artists not so closely related to our favorites
are...Lionrock,
> Tim Simenon (Bomb The Bass), Bjork (DA WOMAN), Andy
Weatherall, Massive
> Attack, Nellie Hooper, Howie B,...
> HAVE I MENTIONED KRAFTWERK???
> This one's too hard to answer...who asked me to:)))
> Daft Punk is worth checking out, their "Homework" is about to
be released
> (already can be found)...
> Also, I wanted to ask you guys long ago: what does any of
you think of
> ELECTRIBE 101 "Elecribal Memories" and PET SHOP BOYS
"Relentless" if
> heard???? I kindda have those in my Oldies But Goldies
section:).
> I might just shut up!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>
> > Another thing, what type of music would most of you
classify Orbital under.
> >  Their songs vary so much.  I pretty much just call it
electronic music.
> >  What do you think?
>
> Orbital I classifie as intelligent dance music, but when asked
what kind
> of music takes the very heart of me I just answer : Electronic
and have a
> laugh watching those stuck up, closedminded ppl pass by...
> Promise: this is the last one from me within this year...
> DON'T BID THAT IMPACT PRICE
UPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPP!!!!
>
> peace in '97.
> Sasha.
>




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From: Easley Jerry W <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Some new groups
Date: 07 Jan 1997 10:44:05 -0600 (CST)

How do I get off this damned list? I love Orbital but my sysadmin hates
the mail. Help!




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From: "RCOPELLO.HFM.COM" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Finding the Static...
Date: 07 Jan 1997 09:31:52 -0500


Guys:
     Tou can find Eat Static at any Best Buy, Media Play, or Blockbuster
Music. Other bands worth listen to : Banco de Gaia, Children of the Bong...

... Groove on...
                                    Roger C.


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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: moby
Date: 07 Jan 1997 12:11:12 -0500

I have heard the Moby remix of "1979"...its pretty cool...can't find it
anywhere though!!

Also, while recently up in NYC I heard a remix of No Doubt for "Don't Speak"
that was also remixed by Moby...that one was ok also..

jamie

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From: Joona =?iso-8859-1?Q?P=94yh=94nen?=  <[e-mail]>
Subject: Orbital in Dublin?
Date: 07 Jan 1997 19:19:28 +0200 (EET)

I live in Finland, and I=B4m going to Dublin=20
in summer...so, I was wondering will I
be able to see the Hartnolls live in there?

Does someone have any idea about any techno-related=20
clubs in Dublin?

Thanks all
=20
feloc        =20
joona p=F6yh=F6nen
http://www.geocities.com/colosseum/field/
                1554/index.html


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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Voodoo
Date: 07 Jan 1997 12:19:33 -0500

The single EP for "Voodoo People" has the Chemical Brothers remix of it on
there...plus about 3-4 other remixes...pretty good buy for $5.99 :-)

jamie

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From: lysergic ad naseum <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: moby
Date: 07 Jan 1997 11:42:31 -0600

yes it is true... it's on the import version of the 1979 single (it's called
1979 mixes).  it's okay...


                                        -lysergic


At 10:25 AM 1/7/97 -0500, Michael A. Polisky wrote:
>I remember people talking about Moby re-mixing the Smashing Pumpkins
>tune 1979. Is that tre? Has Anyone Heard it? Opinions? What disc is it
>on?
>thnks
>mike!
>[e-mail]
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>
><DT>I remember people talking about Moby re-mixing the Smashing Pumpkins
>tune 1979. Is that tre? Has Anyone Heard it? Opinions? What disc is it
>on?</DT>
>
><DT>thnks</DT>
>
><DT>mike!</DT>
>
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From: [e-mail]
Subject: re:RE: Dwr Budr and other questions
Date: 07 Jan 1997 17:26:11 GMT


>It's just the vocal at the end of the song right?  I can kind of make out
>"close
>your eyes" if that's what you're talking about.  It's not really
>whispered right?
>It shifts from right to left all the way 'till the end?

Reserved vocals come to mind...think the close your eyes is a nice
thought....but youll find its all reversed vocals.

Cheers

Steve

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: disgusted
Date: 07 Jan 1997 18:44:03 GMT

I was talking to a mate of mine, I mentioned that Orbital were at No.3
in the charts and he said yeah, but it's not as good as the Prodigy's
"Breathe" I nearly killed the bastard.

also, I do notice that the background synths in Satan are rather
similar than those used in the Prodigy's "Poison" so the arseholes
probably ripped it, well no they probably didn't, but I would prefer
it if they did then I could slag them off more :)
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From: Aaron Murray <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Eat Static
Date: 07 Jan 1997 12:48:52 -0600

tsee wrote:
>
> At 11:32 AM 1/6/97 -0500, you wrote:
> >
> >Is there anyone on this list in to Eat Satic?
> >
>
>                 I looked looonngg and hard for the group but couldn't find
> them in the three Tower Records, four Wherehouses and two Blockbuster Musics
> I went to.  Guess I'll have to wonder...
>
>         Bye,
>
>         Trent See

i found Implant and Abduction in Best Buy for like $11 each.. i nabbed
both of em.. i've found that a lot of the time Best Buy has good techno
CDs that other big music stores dont..

            aaron

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: Alexandra Palace at New Year
Date: 07 Jan 1997 18:43:59 GMT


>And the version of Chime, well, was stunning. They incorporated the=20
>chimes of Big Ben into the tune! Yes, everyone was slightly happy at=20
>this point (radical understatement!). Radio1 in the UK played 1 hour=20
>of the 1hr40min set at 11pm on 1st Jan. Anyone who taped it had=20
>better keep quiet, 'cos its really rather good!

yes, it is isn't it? I taped it, Choice and P.E.T.R.O.L. were the best
IMO (but I haven't heard them Live before) absolutely storming. I feel
a chill down my spine whenever I hear that version of Chime, I would
probably have come in my pants had I been there.

take it easy
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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: Radio 1/Charts/Commercial Stuff
Date: 07 Jan 1997 18:44:11 GMT


>Orbital charts at numero 3 in the Uk Charts (official).
>Radio 1 Dj - says this is The Orbital - nightmare (he says this twice -=20
>cant they read inlays!).

I cringed when he said that, he's got a really irritating way of
saying it as well, like "I'm the best and I know everything", knobhead
(yes, I'm calling him 'cos he doesn't know the correct name for the
band, a bit drastic but it's too early and I'm still pissed from last
night.

>Then he says "They will have an EP out this month" - complete bollox.

thank you for clearing that up.

take it easy and whatever you do give up the friggin' booze %(
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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: first Orbital choon?
Date: 07 Jan 1997 18:43:50 GMT

O
>Oh Yeah!  Even though you misspelled "beautiful", Out There Somewhere is=
 just
>about my all time favorite tune, except maybe Lush 3, or Bjork's =
Hyperballad.
> Oh well, just givin ya a shout-out since you think Out There Somewhere =
is
>awesome too!

oh wow, Hyperballad, now what sort of a choon is this? Fair play to
you mate, you know a good choon when you hear it, Hyperballad is a
choon that I love also.
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From: Aaron Murray <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) on tv, film, radio....
Date: 07 Jan 1997 13:45:25 -0600

[e-mail] wrote:
>
> >(Sorry, not often I get predictions that right!) I assume it's the highest
> >new entry (I was stuck in an X reg car last night with no radio) and by
>
> no, Armand's remix of Tori Amos' "Professional Widow" was highest at
> No.2, but they cheated 'cos it was a re-release, and not too long
> after the initial release either, money grabbing bastards.
>

well that sux.. that remix isn't even the best one.. the club mix of "In
the Springtime of His Voodoo" is much much better.. they always pick the
cheesy ones..


                aaron

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From: fanno <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Finding the Static...
Date: 07 Jan 1997 16:20:43 -0800 (PST)



On Sat, 16 Nov 1996, Chris Herz wrote:

> >Guys:
> >     Tou can find Eat Static at any Best Buy, Media Play, or Blockbuster
> >Music. Other bands worth listen to : Banco de Gaia, Children of the Bong...
> >
> >... Groove on...
> >
> >                                    Roger C.
>
> I've heard Banco de Gaia on a local radio show, what are some of their
> albums??  and i guess COTB too...
>
>
>
>         -Chris Herz
>
>
>
>
> [e-mail]
>
> http://www.interwerks.com        http://www.chs.lane.edu/~chrish
>
>
  Regarding Banco de Gaia,
  As far as I know, there are three full albums.  The first is titled
"Maya"  very Middle Eastern sounding with groovy, thumpin  beats that
change and morph with the tempo of each song.  The second album is "Last
Train to Llasa" (sic) this is a double CD and is more on the ambient side,
again heavily influenced by Middle Eastern/Indian sounds.  But I think
this one is my favorite, all of the songs are quite long and develop as
the song grows- akin to what Orbital does all the time.  The latest album
form Banco de Gaia is a live concert one, "Live at Glastonbury"  it is
essentially a greatest hits album, however it is live with all the crowd
hoopla and such.  Not a bad starting album if you are unfamiliar with the
group.  If you like BDG I would definitely recommend Dead Can Dance as a
similar sounding group, more of a World Music sound than dance/techno.
There latest is "Spiritchaser"  which grows on you, but I like lots and
lots.  Finally there is Deep Forest, a bit of a commercial group, but I
like the incorporation of tribal/pygmy chanting along with dance beats and
natural sounds.  Deep Forest has two albums I forget the names I think the
first is self-titled and has the hit "Lullaby"  I like this album better
than their last which wasn't as 'dancy' a bit more on the melodic side.  I
hope I gave you some useful info.  I know that Aimee Merritt is a bigger
BDG fan than I.  She used to be on this list.  Maybe she'll respond to
your request.  Good Luck!

Later
  Jeff Fanno



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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: Orb,Black Lung,Fluke,Electric Skychurch
Date: 07 Jan 1997 19:40:29 -0500

In a message dated 97-01-06 22:31:02 EST, you write:

<< Orb----just got my first cd by them,Adventures Beyond the
Ultraworld....was
 alittle disappointed. How does this one compare to their others? >>
Sorry to break it to you, but this is probably the Orb's best work....I can't
really help you w/the other ones....

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From: Eric <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: The movie "HACKERS"
Date: 08 Jan 1997 00:50:48 +0000

At 03:43 AM 1/7/97 +0000, you wrote:
>This is for Shad and the rest of ya.  Let's get of the Hackers tip for a
>second-What are your favorite movies?  A Clockwork Orange, Tetsuo-the
>Iron Man, Neo-Tokyo, and Dr. Strangelove are a few of my fav's that I
>can think of off the top of my head.
>
>Luv ya,
>R.J.
>

Oh, Let's see......

Akira
12 Monkeys
A Clockwork Orange


Eric in S.C.


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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: The Orb
Date: 07 Jan 1997 20:31:46 -0500

In a message dated 97-01-07 04:44:59 EST, you write:

<< My fave Orb tunes are White Fluffy Clouds (beutiful voice ;-> ) and star 6
7&8,
 it grows on you. >>

Good choices...don't forget Perpetual Dawn and A Huge Ever-growing....
 (notice everyone's favorite Orb tunes are off of Adventures?)

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Subject: Compilation City!
Date: 07 Jan 1997 18:06:22 -0800

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: Dwr Budr and other questions
Date: 07 Jan 1997 21:10:59 -0500 (EST)

Jeez--I really started something with this "Close your eyes" comment didn't
I??  Can one of you back me up on this...I'm sure I'm not imagining this
vocal.

Anyway, it appears in Dwr Budr pretty close to the end of the song, after the
song changes direction (from the soft, dark vibe to the more "techno-y" type
thing)---I don't know the exact time where it starts, but I suppose I could
look for it....

Matt

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From: Brandon Thompson <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: The movie "HACKERS"
Date: 07 Jan 1997 21:24:18 -0500 (EST)

>
> This is for Shad and the rest of ya.  Let's get of the Hackers tip for a
> second-What are your favorite movies?  A Clockwork Orange, Tetsuo-the
> Iron Man, Neo-Tokyo, and Dr. Strangelove are a few of my fav's that I
> can think of off the top of my head.
>
> Luv ya,
> R.J.
>

Ninja Scroll (anime), Clerks, Dolemite, Superfly, any godzilla film post
Godzilla vs. Biollante and Aliens are mine. Can watch them over and over
and over. As you can see my tastes in music (rap, techno, punk) vary like
my tastes in movies. --  dolemite

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: first Orbital choon?
Date: 07 Jan 1997 21:26:06 -0500 (EST)

In a message dated 97-01-06 20:12:45 EST, you write:

<<  You were saying Moby's best work lies ahead.  His new CD is titled
 > "Animal Rights"-as far as I know it's stil only available as an import.
 > >From what I hear it is a guitar-based rock and roll album.

     Yup. Comes out here next month officially. I got a promo copy of
 the single for "That's when I reach for my revolver". It's pretty cool,
 but it's definitely not techno of any kind. THe CD I got also has "Whip
 It(Death Metal Version)" on it.. Interesting..
  >>
He's also recently done a trance album under the name "Voodoo Child" (I think
it's Voodoo Child, not sure tho---but it definitely has "Voodoo" in it
somewhere)

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From: Geoffrey Elgey <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) Klaus Schulze + Satan cat#'s + Global Communication
Date: 08 Jan 1997 12:23:01 +0000

G'day,

Comments regarding Klaus:

>From: Steven Porter <[e-mail]>
>As far as taste in electronic music goes you should try Klaus
>Schulze as no one does it better.  Have a look at the official
>web page to see over 50 releases and each one a winner.

As far as Klaus is concerned, his 1975 'TimeWind' album is a classic. Two
long pieces, the first is a 30min analogue sequencer line with rumbling bass
- absolutely great. The other side has a more ambient 28min piece. This
album should be available mid-price on CD. This was one of the first pieces
of vinyl I ever got, in about '84 - great pseudo-surrealist artwork from Urs
Amman (sp?) on the cover and inner gatefold, which unfortunately doesn't
transfer to small CD sleeves very well. Anyway, this album is well worth a
listen (and even purchase). One can definately see the lineage from Schulze
to Orbital in this work.

As fate would have it, I've just ordered Schulze's 'X' this very morning - a
double CD from 1978 combining synth/strings/drums. Considered to be another
masterpiece from the man.

For the rest of the Schulze catalogue, I'd avoid anything after about 1980 -
Klaus went onto digital equipment after this, and IMHO the output hasn't
been as good. But others certainly will not agree with me.

Obligitary Orbital Content:
- Can anyone provide the catalogue #'s to the 3 Satan EP's?
- And has anyone got reviews for the new Global Communication (ummm, The
Way/The Deep I think it is called).

Cheers,
Geoff






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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: Wink
Date: 07 Jan 1997 21:35:29 -0500 (EST)

In a message dated 97-01-07 15:57:53 EST, you write:

<< while most of us are on the subject of other techno groups, i was
wondering
 if anyone has heard of Wink... (i believe his full name is John Wink, but
 am probably wrong)  he is on a few comp. albums >>
You were close--it's Josh Wink....I haven't been able to find one of his
albums either, but I've liked his remixes, and the stuff I've heard on comps
from him.

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: ??????????????????????
Date: 07 Jan 1997 21:36:46 -0500 (EST)

In a message dated 97-01-06 23:29:31 EST, you write:

<< Oh! does anyone know if it's worth my while to release a compilation c.d.
 of the chems, prod, orb, orbital, and everyone else in the scene? would
 people buy it?
  >>
I'd buy it if it contained either new or hard-to-find tracks, but otherwise,
I don't think it would be worth my while

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From: Ernesto Perez <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Orb,Black Lung,Fluke,Electric Skychurch
Date: 07 Jan 1997 20:53:18 -0600

[e-mail] wrote:
>
> In a message dated 97-01-06 22:31:02 EST, you write:
>
> << Orb----just got my first cd by them,Adventures Beyond the
> Ultraworld....was
>  alittle disappointed. How does this one compare to their others? >>
> Sorry to break it to you, but this is probably the Orb's best work....I can't
> really help you w/the other ones....

well, i guess it depends on which one you got: if you got the single cd
one (the original US release) then it does bite. but the original Uk 2
cd release is in my opinion very good. pioneering stuff! in my opinion,
the best cd is UFOrb: more progressive and a more solid sound. after
that it sort of loses ground.

dj ernie

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From: Eric <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: AMP
Date: 08 Jan 1997 02:42:39 +0000

At 09:46 AM 1/7/97 +0000, you wrote:
>Philip Treacy[SMTP:[e-mail]] wrote:
>
>> Is AMP only shown in the States or can us poor Europeans get it too
>> ?  I'm in the UK BTW.  I've not seen it advertised at all over here.
>
>Poor Europeans!  You're joking right?  I could care less about AMP
>if I could see Orbital concerts on MTV!!  Don't they show electronic
>music there all the time?  I'm really curious, maybe I'll move down
>there someday...
>
>--
>.    .   .  . .end of transmission. .  .   .    .
>
>

Shaun, You've got that right.....

The UK seems like the place to be a techno, rave, or jungle fan. Everything
we get over here (in the USA) has to be sought out and tracked down. I would
love it if Techno was on the radio, but I can't move to LA for that....

Eric in S.C.


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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: Wink
Date: 07 Jan 1997 22:18:20 -0500

At 12:48 PM 11/16/96 -0700, you wrote:
>while most of us are on the subject of other techno groups, i was wondering
>if anyone has heard of Wink... (i believe his full name is John Wink, but
>am probably wrong)  he is on a few comp. albums... ive been looking for his
>tune "higher state of consciousness" for almost a year and cant find it...
>keep in mind, i dont know any of the titles of these albums.. so any info
>would be soo cool....  later all...
>
>
>
>        -Chris Herz
>
>
>
>
>[e-mail]
>
>http://www.interwerks.com        http://www.chs.lane.edu/~chrish
>
>
>
>

        Dear Chris

        These are three CD's by Josh Wink. The first two he did himself and
the         third he just mixed.

        HIGHER STATE OF CONSCIOUSNESS '96
        HIGHER STATE OF CONSCIOUSNESS
        UNITED DJS OF AMERICA VOL. 3
        Hope this helped.
                        Sol


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From: "Nappy Head" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Wink
Date: 07 Jan 1997 22:26:31 -0500

Hi
yup, I've heard of WINK! he's got to be the best solo I've heard in a long
time! I've got his single for HYPNOTIZIN', it's pretty cool but you got to
get his album! it's got about 28 songs on it! although some songs a less
than 60 seconds long!
If your look to buy some of his stuff? I recommend HIGHER STATE OF
CONSCIOUSNESS! it's his best single!

nappy head

----------
> From: Chris Herz <[e-mail]>
> To: [e-mail]
> Subject: Wink
> Date: Saturday, November 16, 1996 2:48 PM
>
> while most of us are on the subject of other techno groups, i was
wondering
> if anyone has heard of Wink... (i believe his full name is John Wink, but
> am probably wrong)  he is on a few comp. albums... ive been looking for
his
> tune "higher state of consciousness" for almost a year and cant find
it...
> keep in mind, i dont know any of the titles of these albums.. so any info
> would be soo cool....  later all...
>
>
>
>         -Chris Herz
>
>
>
>
> [e-mail]
>
> http://www.interwerks.com        http://www.chs.lane.edu/~chrish
>
>

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: moby
Date: 07 Jan 1997 22:30:48 -0500 (EST)

In a message dated 97-01-07 10:17:20 EST, you write:

<< I remember people talking about Moby re-mixing the Smashing Pumpkins
 tune 1979. Is that tre? Has Anyone Heard it? Opinions? What disc is it
 on? >>
It's true, and it's on the Smashing Pumpkins 1979 remixes discs....while I
still like SP, I didn't think it was worth $7 to hear remixes of a song I was
never particularly fond of

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: some stupid questions
Date: 07 Jan 1997 23:02:52 -0500 (EST)

Yeah, yeah, I know I've already written entirely too much today, so I'll try
to keep this short...just got a couple stupid questions first.

1.  Is CJ Bolland a guy or a girl??  I've heard several tunes from him/her,
but I don't know what his/her sex is...

2.  Any of you heard of Paul Hasslinger??  I caught his video for "World
Without Rules" the other night, and was wondering if it would be a good idea
to look for some of his stuff...

3.  Are there any other versions of Planet of the Shapes out there??  This is
one of my favorite Orbital tracks that I haven't been able to find remixes
and whatnot of... (don't misinterpret that--it's not my favorite tune, but I
like it enough to try and hunt down some remixes)

Thanx,
Matt

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: music
Date: 07 Jan 1997 23:43:42 -0500 (EST)

In a message dated 97-01-06 20:03:51 EST, you write:

<<     On the subject of Tricky, has anyone heard about the argument that
 > ensued between Goldie and Tricky over a photograph for the press.  I guess
 > Goldie threatened to kick Tricky's butt for not taking a picture with him.
 >  Tricky wouldn't fight him because he had a skirt on at the time=)  Its
off
 > the subject, but I thought It would be a cool little tidbit of info.

     I don't know about that, but I know they both got thrown out of a
 club during the CMJ Festival in New York last summer. They got into a
 fight of some kind over Bjork. (Goldie's current, Tricky's ex, i think)
  >>
Actually, these may be the same incident...I read an interview w/Tricky, and
got his side of the story (forgot where I read the interview, tho).   He said
that he went to talk to Goldie and Bjork, and Goldie asked him to take a
picture with him...Tricky said that if he wanted to make a scene, he'd do it
at a Rakim show or something, so Goldie started pushing him around.....Tricky
said it was all pretty much fun & games, but the press blew it out of
proportion.  Actually, now that I think about it, I don't think they are the
same incident, because in the one I read about, Goldie was playing later that
night--I don't think they'd throw him out if he still had a show to put on.
 (By the way, Orbital also played that show =) )

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: Dwr Budr and other questions
Date: 08 Jan 1997 00:23:10 -0500 (EST)

In a message dated 97-01-07 06:17:28 EST, you write:

<< Hey ! Can you find out what the hell that thing at the end of the Box on
 In-Sides is (with your ambience button) ? Lot of hum and some voice way down
 low, been doing my head in for ages now!! >>
I'll try, but even with the ambience button, I might not be able to make it
out (sometimes it makes it harder to make things out, actually)

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From: Andy <[e-mail]>
Subject: satan UK id #s
Date: 08 Jan 1997 00:31:21 -0500 (EST)

Someone needed the satan live order numbers?

Internal Records
850 806.2/LIECD 37   "SATAN LIVE CD ONE" (red)
850 810.2/LICDP 37   "SATAN LIVE CD TWO" (blue)
850 808.2/LICDD 37   "SATAN LIVE CD THREE" (yellow)

I'm still in shock that I was able to get this set.
I picked it up in Columbus, Ohio three days before it was officially released
in the UK.  They had two sets.  I paid $10.99 each.  Sounds like that's about
the equivalent all of you in the UK paid for all three!
It's a *great* shop.  I found the Chime US promo 12" there a few weeks before
for about $4!
They're online and do mailorder.  Nice people too.
http://www.cultureseven.com/

Good Luck,

Andy
[e-mail]


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From: tsee <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Box Lyrics
Date: 07 Jan 1997 22:12:32 -0800

>Below are lyrics from The Box for [e-mail] (Jon Froines) who
>requested them - can't remember where I got them from!
>
>Richard
>____________________
>[e-mail]
>Tel.  [phone]
>___________________________________________________________________________
_____
>
>The Box (Internal/1996/UK/LIECD 30 / 850579.2)
>
>shared his neighbors where the building
>knows who dresses up my heart
>draws a picture of his future
>keeps the paper close at hand
>packs his tongue into a suitcase
>suffers terror on the train
>and he wants to start a movement
>cause he's indestructible
>destructible..suffers terror on the train
>he's indestructible
>and you know they'll never find us
>and they'll leave us alone
>and if we just keep on talking
>then we'll still make it home
>there's commotion and promotion
>now they've done good every war
>sell our pictures to a paper
>now that everyone must know
>
>trading satellites for substance
>let spectators pay their way
>we'll invade the trevi fountain
>now that everyone must pay (2x)
>mama and babies mother tragedy
>babies mothers tragedy
>babies mothers tragedy
>terrifies the kill
>
>

                THANK YOU SOOO MUUCCHH!!!!!!

    Bye,

    Trent See


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From: tsee <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: What's wrong with me??
Date: 07 Jan 1997 22:21:04 -0800

>.............yes, a very devoted fanbase! I guess it's something in the
>music we all identify strongly with, can't think what....anybody got any
>ideas on this one ??? (Words fail me)           ...Mark S-D
>
>

                Hmm, well Mark, I have been listening to electronic music
since I was born.  My father loves electronic music and is responsible for
introducing it to me (I owe him much indeed!).  He would play the, now old,
Tomita and Wendy(Walter) Carlos albums on the record player quite often
(those who have a strong background in electronic music will know this moog
synth pioneers).

                So I guess, for me, it is a wonderful feeling I get when I
listen to the music, gives me a certain emotion (like for example this
Enigma 3--not totally electronic but wow!).

                It is to the emotions that the musics make me feel that
keeps me addicted to Orbital and all electronic music.  Well, how about that
explaination?

    Bye,

    Trent See


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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: Forgot something...
Date: 08 Jan 1997 01:27:14 -0500 (EST)

In a message dated 97-01-07 08:02:23 EST, you write:

<< > Yeah. I forgot to ask you all of an opinion.
 >Why are the Hartnolls so obsessed with undrinkable water ? I mean, "Kein
 >Trink Wasser", "Dwr Budr" ..
 >or is this also a coincidence ?

 They are obsessed with mans destruction of the environment.
 Most tracks are linked with this.

 Steve >>

Just read the inlay for In Sides, it tells of how theey used solar power to
make The Girl With The Sun In Her Head.

Morpheus

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: The movie "HACKERS"
Date: 08 Jan 1997 01:28:19 -0500 (EST)

      <adj> - 1. Calm and peaceful; tranquil.
Halcyon wrote:
>    ... Chemical Brothers remix of Voodoo Peolple...

It's also on the Voodoo People single... not very good IMHO - but it was a
present so I can't complain.  The CJ Bolland remix of No Good is sharp, though.
Also loved his Lush 3-6.  Is all of his stuff this good?

    - Lemurboy


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From: tsee <[e-mail]>
Subject: re:Forgot something...
Date: 07 Jan 1997 22:33:14 -0800

>They are obsessed with mans destruction of the environment.
>Most tracks are linked with this.
>
>Steve
>
>
                Hi Steve, haven't seen you post in a while.  I kind of
thought so after watching 'The Box' video from MTV's AMP.  Especially when
the woman is watching the televisions in the window--I have it on tape so I
might put it on slow motion to get all the words flashed on the televisions.

                I have a question though, I was thinking (and sometimes this
is not a good thing), does the production of electronic musical instruments
effect the environment in a negative way?  Hmm, I would have to say in some
instances, yes it would.  If so, I wonder which manufactures have the most
adverse affect on our global environment (which waste the most, pollute
most, etc.).

                Maybe we, as a global village, should start requesting
environmentally safe electronic equipment...is there such a thing?  Sorry
all, as I said I was thinking...

    Bye,

    Trent See


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From: tsee <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Some new groups
Date: 07 Jan 1997 22:38:36 -0800

>As far as taste in electronic music goes you should try Klaus
>Schulze as no one does it better.  Have a look at the official
>web page to see over 50 releases and each one a winner.
>

                URL would be nice :-)

    Bye,

    Trent See


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From: tsee <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Some new groups
Date: 07 Jan 1997 22:41:47 -0800

At 10:44 AM 1/7/97 -0600, you wrote:
>How do I get off this damned list? I love Orbital but my sysadmin hates
>the mail. Help!
>
>
                Well, to type in the word would make me get off the list
too.  So hmm, let me spell it, u  n  s  u  b  s   c  r  i  b  e  o  r  b  i
t  a  l.

    Bye,

    Trent See


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From: tsee <[e-mail]>
Subject: re:RE: Dwr Budr and other questions
Date: 07 Jan 1997 22:51:33 -0800

>>It's just the vocal at the end of the song right?  I can kind of make out
>>"close
>>your eyes" if that's what you're talking about.  It's not really
>>whispered right?
>>It shifts from right to left all the way 'till the end?
>
>Reserved vocals come to mind...think the close your eyes is a nice
>thought....but youll find its all reversed vocals.
>
>Cheers
>
>Steve
>
>
                Yes, and if you have a good sound card (like a Sound Blaster
AWE32 for IBM or similiar for Apple/Mac), it will have an application with
it that will allow you to record the song, as a wave file, then reverse the
wave file.  Thus, I would believe, you could hear the vocals unreversed.
Haven't tried it yet, but I will and let ya know.  Or, if someone else is
more ambitious, let me know if ya know already.

    Bye,

    Trent See


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From: Ernesto Perez <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: some stupid questions
Date: 08 Jan 1997 01:08:43 -0600

[e-mail] wrote:
>
> Yeah, yeah, I know I've already written entirely too much today, so I'll try
> to keep this short...just got a couple stupid questions first.
>
> 1.  Is CJ Bolland a guy or a girl??  I've heard several tunes from him/her,
> but I don't know what his/her sex is...
>

cj is a guy.

dj ernie

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From: Ernesto Perez <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Wink
Date: 08 Jan 1997 01:07:09 -0600

[e-mail] wrote:
>
> In a message dated 97-01-07 15:57:53 EST, you write:
>
> << while most of us are on the subject of other techno groups, i was
> wondering
>  if anyone has heard of Wink... (i believe his full name is John Wink, but
>  am probably wrong)  he is on a few comp. albums >>
> You were close--it's Josh Wink....I haven't been able to find one of his
> albums either, but I've liked his remixes, and the stuff I've heard on comps
> from him.

i believe his best remixes are psychosonik's "unlearn" and n-joi's "bad
thing". anyone else have a fave?

dj ernie

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From: tsee <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Dwr Budr and other questions
Date: 07 Jan 1997 23:03:55 -0800

>Jeez--I really started something with this "Close your eyes" comment didn't
>I??  Can one of you back me up on this...I'm sure I'm not imagining this
>vocal.
>
>Anyway, it appears in Dwr Budr pretty close to the end of the song, after the
>song changes direction (from the soft, dark vibe to the more "techno-y" type
>thing)---I don't know the exact time where it starts, but I suppose I could
>look for it....
>
>Matt
>
>
                Matt, I have just posted a way of reversing wav files before
this email.  Try it and see what you find.

    Bye,

    Trent See


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From: "Stephen Goss" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: satan UK id #s
Date: 07 Jan 1997 22:51:49 -0800

> Internal Records
> 850 806.2/LIECD 37   "SATAN LIVE CD ONE" (red)
> 850 810.2/LICDP 37   "SATAN LIVE CD TWO" (blue)
> 850 808.2/LICDD 37   "SATAN LIVE CD THREE" (yellow)
>
> I'm still in shock that I was able to get this set.
> I picked it up in Columbus, Ohio three days before it was officially
released
> in the UK.  They had two sets.  I paid $10.99 each.  Sounds like that's
about
> the equivalent all of you in the UK paid for all three!
> It's a *great* shop.  I found the Chime US promo 12" there a few weeks
before
> for about $4!
> They're online and do mailorder.  Nice people too.
> http://www.cultureseven.com/

D'oh, 11 bucks each!?! Oh well, I guess if I want to get them here in the
US I'd better pay up.  Sometimes I wish I lived on that damn island...   :P

Steve Goss
[e-mail]

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From: tsee <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: AMP
Date: 07 Jan 1997 23:11:21 -0800

>Shaun, You've got that right.....
>
>The UK seems like the place to be a techno, rave, or jungle fan. Everything
>we get over here (in the USA) has to be sought out and tracked down. I would
>love it if Techno was on the radio, but I can't move to LA for that....
>
>Eric in S.C.
>
>
>
                Yes, it all started in the UK of course.

    Bye,

    Trent See


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From: Shaun Rader <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: RE: Dwr Budr and other questions
Date: 07 Jan 1997 23:12:38 -0800

tsee wrote:

>                 Yes, and if you have a good sound card (like a Sound Blaster
> AWE32 for IBM or similiar for Apple/Mac), it will have an application with
> it that will allow you to record the song, as a wave file, then reverse the
> wave file.  Thus, I would believe, you could hear the vocals unreversed.
> Haven't tried it yet, but I will and let ya know.  Or, if someone else is
> more ambitious, let me know if ya know already.

I've tried all ready and I can't make out any words.  The vocals in the
first half of the song almost sound like, "Steven, follow me, protect me,
protect me.."  But I was really stretching..

I don't remember the vocals in the second part sounding like anything
backword (or forward for that matter).

Rumor had it that it sounded like Madonna, but I don't buy it :P

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: Wink
Date: 08 Jan 1997 02:18:07 -0500 (EST)

In a message dated 97-01-07 15:57:53 EST, you write:

<< while most of us are on the subject of other techno groups, i was
wondering
 if anyone has heard of Wink... (i believe his full name is John Wink, but
 am probably wrong)  he is on a few comp. albums... ive been looking for his
 tune "higher state of consciousness" for almost a year and cant find it...
 keep in mind, i dont know any of the titles of these albums.. so any info
 would be soo cool....  later all... >>

I have heard of him.  it is actually Josh Wink.  Unlike Orbital stuff, his
stuff is out where I live.  I saw the CD with Higher State Of Consciousness
at HMV.  Very expensive though.  $32.00 or something.  But that's also
Canadian so...

Morpheus

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From: tsee <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: RE: Dwr Budr and other questions
Date: 07 Jan 1997 23:28:37 -0800

>I've tried all ready and I can't make out any words.  The vocals in the
>first half of the song almost sound like, "Steven, follow me, protect me,
>protect me.."  But I was really stretching..
>
>I don't remember the vocals in the second part sounding like anything
>backword (or forward for that matter).
>
>Rumor had it that it sounded like Madonna, but I don't buy it :P
>
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>
>
>
                O.k., let me give it a shot.

    Bye,

    Trent See


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From: tsee <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: RE: Dwr Budr and other questions
Date: 07 Jan 1997 23:39:58 -0800

At 11:28 PM 1/7/97 -0800, you wrote:
>>I've tried all ready and I can't make out any words.  The vocals in the
>>first half of the song almost sound like, "Steven, follow me, protect me,
>>protect me.."  But I was really stretching..
>>
>>I don't remember the vocals in the second part sounding like anything
>>backword (or forward for that matter).
>>
>>Rumor had it that it sounded like Madonna, but I don't buy it :P
>>
>>--
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>>
>>
>>
>                O.k., let me give it a shot.
>
>    Bye,
>
>    Trent See
>
>
>
                Gave it a shot, and came up with the same thing.  No,
doesn't sound like Madonna.  Steve or Chris,  do you know who the woman is
and what she is actually saying--are we right? (I know, getting into details
again :-))).

    Bye,

    Trent See


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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Addicted
Date: 08 Jan 1997 03:05:37 -0500 (EST)

Adressing the question of what makes orbital so addictive, I really don't know.
Maybe it's the detached state-of-mind it puts you in, almost as if sound in
some way becomes a drug.  All I know is that I played In Sides for my fiance's
family while we were all preparing Thanksgiving dinner and everybody loved it.
In fact, for Christmas, she got In Sides from her Dad, she gave her Dad
Diversions (he went out and bought In Sides after Thanksgiving dinner), she
bought the brown album for her brother, and her brother gave her mother In
Sides.  I ended up walking out of the madness with the green album.  I think
P&P put subliminal messages in their music.  It makes you want to hear it over
and over and over.  Then again, no one's ever accused me of being sane.

As for the lyrics in Dwr Budr, I think you guys really need to lay off the
drugs :)   I've listened to it 5 times straight through on my head phones and
all I can hear is Auntie singing non-descript songs similar to the beginning of
the song.  ... make that non-descript sounds... jeez, need more caffeine.

Anyway, I've said plenty so I'll shut the fk up

    - Lemurboy

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: re:RE: AMP
Date: 08 Jan 1997 8:34:27 GMT

Dont know where the idea that Electronic music is shown all the while in
Europe but im in the Uk...home of many a good artist/techno outfit and the
Tv still insists on teeny pop stuff.
Mtv only do one techno prog which is the "Chill Out" zone on Saturday
0100hrs for an hour (or 2 depends).

Steve LOOPZ Price

----------------------[Reply - Original Message]----------------------

Sent by:Shaun Rader <[e-mail]>
 Philip Treacy[SMTP:[e-mail]] wrote:

> Is AMP only shown in the States or can us poor Europeans get it too
> ?  I'm in the UK BTW.  I've not seen it advertised at all over here.

Poor Europeans!  You're joking right?  I could care less about AMP
if I could see Orbital concerts on MTV!!  Don't they show electronic
music there all the time?  I'm really curious, maybe I'll move down
there someday...

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: re:Satan EP in America?
Date: 08 Jan 1997 8:46:11 GMT

Its because The Box was released stateside as well.

Satan Eps (only on import for the us etc).

But im sorting a few out.

Steve

----------------------[Reply - Original Message]----------------------

Sent by:Shaun Rader <[e-mail]>
 I'd like to know if everyone in America all ready got the Satan EPs.  I
feel really low because I can't find them anywhere!  Anyone else
having a hard time finding them?

It's strange because I found "The Box EP" a few days after its UK
release.

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: re:RE: Re: SECRET of SATAN release!
Date: 08 Jan 1997 8:52:57 GMT

Halcyon (BC.BJ samples) , the demand is only really coming from the Us for
this track. It WONT be the extra track i guarentee that (Paul thinks it
would be too cheesy to release that in the UK).

Cheers

Steve LOOPZ Price

----------------------[Reply - Original Message]----------------------

Sent by:Andrew Jackson <[e-mail]>
 It'll be Halcyon - to satisfy the demand for the BC/BJ samples (and which
they said they'd never release in the UK....)

Well, just a little prediction...

Andy


"For my birthday I got a humidifier and a de-humidifier.
 I put them in the same room and let them fight it out."
(Stephen Wright)

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: The movie "HACKERS"
Date: 08 Jan 1997 03:54:16 -0500 (EST)

In a message dated 97-01-07 02:26:38 EST, you write:

<<                 Listen all, Morpheus should be thanked for giving us the
 soundtrack list a while back, NOT BASHED for giving his opinion.  We've all
 got opinions.  However, I feel that, Morpheus, you could have responded in a
 more intelligent way than "F U".  Next time, try to think of a response that
 the brothers might have used :-) >>

Thanx for backing me up.  I will try to control my temper next time.  You
realize you sound like a monk when you say" try to think of a response that
the brothers might have used"  I'm not trying to make fun of you or anything,
but it just sounds like were are in a cult or something.  But I guess we are.
??
Morpheus

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From: Andrew Jackson <[e-mail]>
Subject: US Satan Live CD
Date: 08 Jan 1997 08:58:40 GMT

Hello!

I asked this question last week but no-one answered - the promised
US-version of the Satan Live project (which was supposed to contain
lotsa tracks not on the UK triple-single package) - is it due for
release yet? It was announced by Steve 'Loopz' Price way back - when
can we expect it to hit the US shops?

Andy Jackson


"For my birthday I got a humidifier and a de-humidifier.
 I put them in the same room and let them fight it out."
(Stephen Wright)

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: re:US Satan Live CD
Date: 08 Jan 1997 9:19:59 GMT

There is NO release date for this....March? April? maybe.

Loopz Home Page has all this information for people with browsers...it
will be updated as soon as i find out.

Cheers

Steve LOOPZ Price

----------------------[Reply - Original Message]----------------------

Sent by:Andrew Jackson <[e-mail]>
 Hello!

I asked this question last week but no-one answered - the promised
US-version of the Satan Live project (which was supposed to contain
lotsa tracks not on the UK triple-single package) - is it due for
release yet? It was announced by Steve 'Loopz' Price way back - when
can we expect it to hit the US shops?

Andy Jackson


"For my birthday I got a humidifier and a de-humidifier.
 I put them in the same room and let them fight it out."
(Stephen Wright)

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: Compilation City!
Date: 08 Jan 1997 04:30:13 -0500 (EST)

In a message dated 97-01-07 21:07:26 EST, you write:

<< nd those Satan Eps ANYWHERE! And I live in Los
 Angeles! Messed Up eh?

 -Jon >>
I was at Aron's the other day/in Los Angeles/and got them there.......
I was there 3 days in a row...and as of last Saturday they had plenty.

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From: Philip Treacy <[e-mail]>
Subject: Orbital on Radio 1
Date: 08 Jan 1997 07:59:49

>From: [e-mail]
>Date: Sat, 04 Jan 1997 13:45:25 GMT
>Subject: Re: Glad to live in the US (for once)
>
>BTW did anyone else catch Orbital on Radio1 on New Year's Day,
>recorded at Mount Universe on NYE? I taped it and have listened to it
>lots. PETROL and Choice were the best choons, Chime was also
>excellent, sent shivers down my spine and made me wish I was there.
>trax played on radio were (in this order)
>

Yes I taped it too and it brought the night all back to me.  It was
weird sitting there listening to the radio thinking that only 24
hours ago I was there for real.  Sniff.

I hoped they'd play Lush fully, not the trimmed down version they
did play.  Its got one of the best build ups and breaks I think I've
ever heard.  It ALWAYS sends shivers down my back and gets me
bouncing round like a madman. Sniff.


Phil


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From: Philip Treacy <[e-mail]>
Subject: First Choon
Date: 08 Jan 1997 08:16:27

>From: [e-mail]
>Date: Sat, 04 Jan 1997 13:45:56 GMT
>Subject: first Orbital choon?
>
>I am interested to know this...how did all you people first get into
>Orbital, what was the first Orbital choon you ever heard and what
>effect did it have on you?
>
> that one choon just happened to be on the jukebox. It was
>Are We Here?
>That was in December 1994, so I would have been 16 years old.

++++++++++++++

>
>From: moiz <[e-mail]>
>Date: Sat, 04 Jan 1997 19:26:20 -0800
>Subject: first Orbital choon
>
>I was first alerted to Orbital by an article in The Guardian, 19 April
>1996

++++++++++++++

>
>From: [e-mail]
>Date: Sat, 4 Jan 1997 16:01:20 -0500
>Subject: Re: first Orbital choon?
>
>I first heard Orbital in the music store by my house.
>That was about 10 months ago.
>

++++++++++++++

>From: [e-mail] (Brian Gray)
>Date: Sat, 4 Jan 1997 16:50:17 -0600 (CST)
>Subject: first choon...
>
>first orbital tune...
>
>lush 3 euro tunnel disaster from diversions came on and i was stuck;
>that was just after diversions was released

++++++++++++++

Shit am I that old ?  I hate the way these things creep up on you.
The first track I heard was Lush and it was blinding.  And was way
back in, ooh let me guess, '91/'92 ?   I can't remember the year
but it was my 3rd year at Uni so  that dates about right.

Phil


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From: Shaun Rader <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: RE: AMP
Date: 08 Jan 1997 01:42:18 -0800

[e-mail] wrote:

> Dont know where the idea that Electronic music is shown all the while in
> Europe but im in the Uk...home of many a good artist/techno outfit and the
> Tv still insists on teeny pop stuff.
> Mtv only do one techno prog which is the "Chill Out" zone on Saturday
> 0100hrs for an hour (or 2 depends).

I remember you mentioning that MTV showed an Orbital concert
for an hour during Christmas and I assumed that it was a common
occurrence.  Plus my friend went to Europe last summer and he
mentioned how they always play electronic stuff.  I don't know, maybe
he exaggerated (but anything's more than the US!) and I assumed...

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From: Shaun Rader <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: Satan EP in America?
Date: 08 Jan 1997 01:47:56 -0800

[e-mail] wrote:

> Its because The Box was released stateside as well.
>
> Satan Eps (only on import for the us etc).

What is the difference between the two?  Does this mean that the
UK version of The Box was released over here but Satan is not?  I
sure hope not!

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From: Philip Treacy <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: orbital Digest V2 #138
Date: 08 Jan 1997 09:57:37

>From: Shaun Rader <[e-mail]>
>Date: Tue, 7 Jan 1997 01:46:55 -0800
>Subject: RE: AMP
>
>Philip Treacy[SMTP:[e-mail]] wrote:
>
>> Is AMP only shown in the States or can us poor Europeans get it too
>> ?  I'm in the UK BTW.  I've not seen it advertised at all over here.
>
>Poor Europeans!  You're joking right?

Nope.  I've never seen AMP here so unless someone else in the UK
wants to correct me ??

>Don't they show electronic music there all the time?

MTV does show night videos and the Chill Out Zone which I catch
occassionally.  The only tracks I recall as being any good though
are The Box, Born Slippy and Accident In Paradise by Sven Vath.
And that's over 3 years !!  I don't watch it very often, most of
the stuff on MTV is cack.


Phil


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From: Siamese Dream <[e-mail]>
Subject: strange static....
Date: 08 Jan 1997 11:24:50 +0000 (GMT)

I found Eat Static and all the Orbital albums in the music section of my
local library....very strange...

another freaky weird band i found there and got into were 'Astralasia' now they
are weird, more a electronic version of 'Ozric Tenticles' if you see what i
mean

mellow vibes

james
:-)))
[e-mail]

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: Orbital in Dublin?
Date: 08 Jan 1997 09:35:51 -0500

     I moved here to Dublin in May which was when H&H played their last g=
ig =

     here.  They played before that at the Feile festival in my home town=
 of =

     Cork in August of '95 so hopefully they'll be back again by next =

     summer.  Be sure to check out the Kitchen on Tuesdays for a good (if=
 =

     small) techno/trance night, as well as Club Alien, and watch out for=
 a =

     DJ called Francoisprobably the best techno DJ in the city.  For more=
 =

     trancy stuff look out for Casper or Dean Sherry.  Guaranteed a good =

     night with these guys playing.  Give me a shout privately if you wan=
t =

     anymore info...
     =

        Sandy
        [e-mail]
     =

     ...if you see your mom this weekend
        be sure and tell her
        SATAN SATAN SATAN SATAN!!! }:-|

     =

     =

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     =

     =

I live in Finland, and I'm going to Dublin =

in summer...so, I was wondering will I
be able to see the Hartnolls live in there?
     =

Does someone have any idea about any techno-related =

clubs in Dublin?
     =

Thanks all
     =


feloc         =

joona p=F6yh=F6nen
http://www.geocities.com/colosseum/field/
                1554/index.html

     =


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From: Jon Green <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: disgusted
Date: 08 Jan 1997 12:39:15 +0000

At 18:44 07/01/97 GMT, [e-mail] wrote:
>I was talking to a mate of mine, I mentioned that Orbital were at No.3
>in the charts and he said yeah, but it's not as good as the Prodigy's
>"Breathe" I nearly killed the bastard.
>
>also, I do notice that the background synths in Satan are rather
>similar than those used in the Prodigy's "Poison" so the arseholes
>probably ripped it, well no they probably didn't, but I would prefer
>it if they did then I could slag them off more :)

I got the impression when I first heard it on Jools Holland that some of
drums sounded similar to Poison. It's bits that aren't on the original
Satan, so I suspect either Orbital sampled The Prodigy, or they both sampled
someone else or something like that. Satan is definitely better than Breathe.

Jon


Jon Green: [e-mail]
"The less effort one puts in, the greater
satisfaction one gains from a good result"



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From: Jon Green <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Radio 1/Charts/Commercial Stuff
Date: 08 Jan 1997 12:42:08 +0000

At 18:44 07/01/97 GMT, [e-mail] wrote:
>
>>Orbital charts at numero 3 in the Uk Charts (official).
>>Radio 1 Dj - says this is The Orbital - nightmare (he says this twice -
>>cant they read inlays!).
>
>I cringed when he said that, he's got a really irritating way of
>saying it as well, like "I'm the best and I know everything", knobhead
>(yes, I'm calling him 'cos he doesn't know the correct name for the
>band, a bit drastic but it's too early and I'm still pissed from last
>night.

was that Mark Goodier? He did it at Easter when the Box came out, or when
they broadcast the Leeds gig or something. He probably thinks Orbital have
taken the 'the' that The Prodigy (or Prodigy) seem to have dropped.


Jon Green: [e-mail]
"The less effort one puts in, the greater
satisfaction one gains from a good result"



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From: Jon Green <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) on tv, film, radio....
Date: 08 Jan 1997 12:48:05 +0000

At 18:44 07/01/97 GMT, [e-mail] wrote:
>
>>(Sorry, not often I get predictions that right!) I assume it's the highest
>>new entry (I was stuck in an X reg car last night with no radio) and by
>
>no, Armand's remix of Tori Amos' "Professional Widow" was highest at
>No.2, but they cheated 'cos it was a re-release, and not too long
>after the initial release either, money grabbing bastards.
>
>At least I know that Orbital's better anyway.

And Satan's not a re-release? :-)
I feel that releasing 3 CDs is a bit money grabbing, too. Including of Out
There Somewhere? and TGWTSIHH which hardly sound any different to the album
versions is a bit crap. at least Chime and Impact were worth bothering with.
Then again, they were cheap for the first week, so they'll not have made
that much money, and everybody knows it'll drop like a stone next week when
at full price.
I lent one of my mates the three live CDs and the original with LC1 and
Belfast the other day, and he said he preferred the original, and was going
to buy it for the other tracks.


Jon Green: [e-mail]
"The less effort one puts in, the greater
satisfaction one gains from a good result"



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From: Jon Green <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Alexandra Palace at New Year
Date: 08 Jan 1997 12:53:17 +0000

At 18:43 07/01/97 GMT, [e-mail] wrote:
>
>>And the version of Chime, well, was stunning.....

Agreed! Do I wish I had got my act together a bit sooner and been there...
>
>Choice and P.E.T.R.O.L. were the best IMO
PETROL live is much better than the original or on In Sides, I thought that
at Easter, and still do. It's just so much more powerful. I reckon it'll
become one of their classic live tracks like Impact is.

> I feel a chill down my spine whenever I hear that version of Chime, I would
>probably have come in my pants had I been there.

I know how you feel!! I suppose I'd better take a spare copy of the tape,
'cos I suspect it'll be getting pretty damned worn out soon....


Jon Green: [e-mail]
"The less effort one puts in, the greater
satisfaction one gains from a good result"



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From: Jon Green <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: The Orb
Date: 08 Jan 1997 12:57:04 +0000

At 20:31 07/01/97 -0500, [e-mail] wrote:
>In a message dated 97-01-07 04:44:59 EST, you write:
>
><< My fave Orb tunes are White Fluffy Clouds (beutiful voice ;-> ) and star 6
>7&8,
> it grows on you. >>
>
>Good choices...don't forget Perpetual Dawn and A Huge Ever-growing....
> (notice everyone's favorite Orb tunes are off of Adventures?)
>
Well I like Assassin, and the one on Trance Europe Express, and the remixes
of The Grid's Crystal clear are pretty excellent. As is the Global Comm. mix
of the grid's Rollercoaster, and the new (well maybe a few weeks, I don't
really know) GC single The Way/The Deep is great too.


Jon Green: [e-mail]
"The less effort one puts in, the greater
satisfaction one gains from a good result"



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From: Jon Green <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Wink
Date: 08 Jan 1997 13:04:06 +0000

At 21:35 07/01/97 -0500, [e-mail] wrote:
>In a message dated 97-01-07 15:57:53 EST, you write:
>
><< while most of us are on the subject of other techno groups, i was
>wondering
> if anyone has heard of Wink... (i believe his full name is John Wink, but
> am probably wrong)  he is on a few comp. albums >>
>You were close--it's Josh Wink....I haven't been able to find one of his
>albums either, but I've liked his remixes, and the stuff I've heard on comps
>from him.
>

The original mix of 'Higher State...'is great, as is the '611 acid groove
mix'. The UK/Euro remixes are without exception pure commercial cheesy toss.
Also recommended 'Don't laugh' (as Winx), the original, and Richie Hawtin's
and Wink's own remixes, but don't bother with the UK remix (Parkes/DeVit),
commercial cheesy toss again, I'm afraid. Also excellent is Size 9's I'm
Ready, with a smart DJ Misjah remix, and tracks on Volume's Trance Atlantic
2 and Berlin Unwrapped CDs.


Jon Green: [e-mail]
"The less effort one puts in, the greater
satisfaction one gains from a good result"



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From: Fraser Macdonald <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: disgusted
Date: 08 Jan 1997 13:04:25 +0000

Jon Green wrote:
>
> >also, I do notice that the background synths in Satan are rather
> >similar than those used in the Prodigy's "Poison" so the arseholes
> >probably ripped it, well no they probably didn't, but I would prefer
> >it if they did then I could slag them off more :)
>
> I got the impression when I first heard it on Jools Holland that some of
> drums sounded similar to Poison. It's bits that aren't on the original
> Satan, so I suspect either Orbital sampled The Prodigy, or they both sampled
> someone else or something like that. Satan is definitely better than Breathe.
>

I think it's just because the same drum machine is at work. Can't think
of
the Poison drums at the moment, but I'm pretty sure Satan uses a
bog standard TR-808. These days Orbital are much better at making more
original drum sounds, instead of using them practically unchanged.
The more I think about, I think Satan makes a lot of use of the old
TB-303,
and Poison probably does too (which dance/techno acts don't these
days?).
Hence, some bits sound similar.

Fraser

P.S. You folk are amazing. Came back from my Christmas holiday (2 weeks)
to
about 600 emails, the vast majority of which were from this list. Doncha
ever take a break? :-)

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From: Jon Green <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re:Global Communication
Date: 08 Jan 1997 13:09:15 +0000

At 12:23 08/01/97 +0000, Geoffrey Elgey wrote:

>- And has anyone got reviews for the new Global Communication (ummm, The
>Way/The Deep I think it is called).

Typical that I read this just  after commenting on it... It was reviewed in
the latest issue of Muzik magazine, their in-house reviewers said it was
great, guest reviewer Andrew Weatherall (God!!) said he liked it but would
probably only play it because it's GC. They seemed to be going on about the
Deep Dish and Maurice Joshua mixes, but my CD seems to have the original
mixes, so I may have been listening to different tracks. I think it's really
good, and a grower I feel, so I suspect I'll love it within a week. Worth
the =A31.99 I paid for it, without a doubt.


Jon Green: [e-mail]
"The less effort one puts in, the greater=20
satisfaction one gains from a good result"
 =20


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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re[3]: Dwr Budr and other questions
Date: 08 Jan 1997 10:55:21 -0500

>Rumor had it that it sounded like Madonna, but I don't buy it :P

     I'm glad I'm not the only one who thinks so!

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From: Jon Green <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: First Choon
Date: 08 Jan 1997 13:28:24 +0000

At 08:16 08/01/97, Philip Treacy wrote:
>Shit am I that old ?  I hate the way these things creep up on you.
>The first track I heard was Lush and it was blinding.  And was way
>back in, ooh let me guess, '91/'92 ?   I can't remember the year
>but it was my 3rd year at Uni so  that dates about right.
>

Chime, on the UK top 40 back in early '90. That track shaped my musical
tastes. That's why Orbital are so special to me, in a way that no-one, no
matter how good (not even Underworld!) can ever be. Unless I go off techno,
which I don't see as being likely.

Jon


Jon Green: [e-mail]
"The less effort one puts in, the greater
satisfaction one gains from a good result"



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From: [e-mail] (StarPango)
Subject: re:US Satan Live CD
Date: 08 Jan 1997 08:36:05 -0500

>There is NO release date for this....March? April? maybe.


Ah guys....correct me but some how i might be wrong.........

i just got the live satan cd yesterday.......it just came in that morning.

the track listing was

Satan (industry Standard Edit)
Chime(live from V96 Festival)
Impact(live from V96 Festival)

i jumped on the only 2 copies they had as they came out of the days
shipping boxes....sorry but i'm not gonna part with either of them

So is this good????

StarPango

[e-mail]
.....IRC - us.undernet.org@#orbital....StarPango



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From: Aaron Murray <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: US Satan Live CD
Date: 08 Jan 1997 09:31:24 -0600

StarPango wrote:
>
> >There is NO release date for this....March? April? maybe.
>
> Ah guys....correct me but some how i might be wrong.........
>
> i just got the live satan cd yesterday.......it just came in that morning.
>
> the track listing was
>
> Satan (industry Standard Edit)
> Chime(live from V96 Festival)
> Impact(live from V96 Festival)
>

steve is talking about the US release.. you picked up the UK release (or
part of it) on import..

            aaron

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: Dwr Budr and other questions
Date: 08 Jan 1997 09:05:34 -0700

OR>In a message dated 97-01-05 04:02:46 EST, you write:

OR><< It's just the vocal at the end of the song right?  I can kind of make out
OR>"close
OR> your eyes" if that's what you're talking about.  It's not really whispered
OR>right?
OR> It shifts from right to left all the way 'till the end?
OR>  >>
OR>yeah, it's not really whispered, but it's quiet enough that i call it a
OR>whisper--my stereo's got an option called "stereo ambience" on it, and I can
OR>make out a lot of the details in Orbital tunes a lot better with it...if you
OR>have something like that on your stereo, try it.

I've got something like that on my computer..it's called 3d sound or
something..I can actually hear stuff :)
-Repo

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From: ^EA^ <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: strange static....
Date: 08 Jan 1997 10:44:46 -0800

Siamese Dream wrote:

> another freaky weird band i found there and got into were 'Astralasia' now they
> are weird, more a electronic version of 'Ozric Tenticles' if you see what i
> mean

Good taste james,nice to know someone else into Astalasia,just bought
their latest "The Space Between" with "Madam" and "Afterlife" being
standouts, well worth a listen or two...

regards
Mick


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From: [e-mail]
Subject: AMP
Date: 08 Jan 1997 09:12:06 -0700

OR>>From: "A Jacumski" <[e-mail]>
OR>>Date: Mon, 30 Dec 1996 13:39:41 -0500
OR>>Subject: Re: it's getting closer--AMP
OR>>
OR>>  If you folks haven't seen AMP you "gots ta" see it.  Videos by The
OR>>Prodigy, Aphex Twin, FSOL, Orbital, Chemical brothers, Underworld, Cj
OR>>Bolland, Tricky, and etc....
OR>>  It comes on at 2:00 am (times are eastern) friday NIGHT, and 1:00 am
OR>>Saturday NIGHT....Check it out.
OR>>

OR>Is AMP only shown in the States or can us poor Europeans get it too
OR>?  I'm in the UK BTW.  I've not seen it advertised at all over here.

OR>Phil

I think it's only here in the U.S. but in U.K. MTV shows the videos on
that show more often than here..It just gets mixed in with the other
stuff...
-Repo

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From: Andrew Jackson <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: strange static....
Date: 08 Jan 1997 16:28:21 GMT


> > another freaky weird band i found there and got into were 'Astralasia' now they
> > are weird, more a electronic version of 'Ozric Tenticles' if you see what i
> > mean
>
> Good taste james,nice to know someone else into Astalasia,just bought
> their latest "The Space Between" with "Madam" and "Afterlife" being
> standouts, well worth a listen or two...

I'm fond of them too - I like 'Whatever Happened to Utopia'LP. Check
out the remix of Suns of Arqa's 'Govinda' (waaaaay better than Kula
Shaker!)

Also, try Magick Eye Compilation just out - excellent stuff from SYT,
UVX, Children of Dub, Another Green World and two stormers from
Astralasia.

Trippy beats, but very listenable!

ANdy


"For my birthday I got a humidifier and a de-humidifier.
 I put them in the same room and let them fight it out."
(Stephen Wright)

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From: "Lazlo Nibble" <[e-mail]>
Subject: re:Satan EP in America?
Date: 08 Jan 1997 10:01:32 -0700 (MST)

>> It's strange because I found "The Box EP" a few days after its UK
>> release.
>
> Its because The Box was released stateside as well.
>
> Satan Eps (only on import for the us etc).

"The Box" was not released stateside.  UK copies were imported to the States,
but its only US release was as part of the US 2CD In Sides.

--
::: Lazlo ([e-mail]; http://www.swcp.com/lazlo)

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: re:US Satan Live CD
Date: 08 Jan 1997 17:30:46 GMT


>i jumped on the only 2 copies they had as they came out of the days
>shipping boxes....sorry but i'm not gonna part with either of them

>So is this good????

You would have got it cheaper from me ;)

:)
For those who are requesting Satan Cds from moi....im working through
them...slowly :)

I will reply to all the mail - just a bit busy at the mo.

Cheers

Steve LOOPZ Price

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: re:Re[3]: Dwr Budr and other questions
Date: 08 Jan 1997 17:32:13 GMT

I was the one who started that rumour (i believe). Sample and reverse
it...and listen. Now is it Madonna or am i starting a false rumour :)

It IS reversed vocals though....no proper words.

Cheers

Steve LOOPZ Price

----------------------[Reply - Original Message]----------------------

Sent by:[e-mail]
 >Rumor had it that it sounded like Madonna, but I don't buy it :P

     I'm glad I'm not the only one who thinks so!

=====================================================================

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From: [e-mail] (Sean Strout)
Subject: serenity dub 2.1
Date: 08 Jan 1997 10:25:58 PST

Anyone else out there have Serenity Dub 2.1 off the
incoming! label?  Cosa Nostra's track 'This Thing
of Ours' is the quintessential jazz/dub/ambient track,
which received many awards for best ambient song
of 1995.

Check it out if you get a chance, great stuff.

obOrbital: do the hartnoll's bros. use mostly samples,
or do they craft sounds off real equipment (are they
actual keyboard players or strictly knob twiddlers?)

-s.

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From: Aaron Murray <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: serenity dub 2.1
Date: 08 Jan 1997 13:40:54 -0600

Sean Strout wrote:
>
> obOrbital: do the hartnoll's bros. use mostly samples,
> or do they craft sounds off real equipment (are they
> actual keyboard players or strictly knob twiddlers?)
>
> -s.

i would have to say actual keyboard players.  i read an interview that
told of the brothers musical background.  they've both been into music
for most of their lives, playing piano and such..

            aaron

(someone please correct me if i'm wrong.. ;)

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From: Wesley Eccleston <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Satan EP in America?
Date: 08 Jan 1997 11:41:19 -0800 (PST)

On Tue, 7 Jan 1997 [e-mail] wrote:
> In a message dated 97-01-06 20:33:45 EST, you write:
> << I'd like to know if everyone in America all ready got the Satan EPs.  I
>  feel really low because I can't find them anywhere!  Anyone else
>  having a hard time finding them? >>
> I am, but I live in Canada so that says it all.  HA HA!
> Morpheus

Actually, that says nothing.  Here in middle BC, I can almost always find
exactly what I want and more.  Are you way out in nowhere or something.
Just curious, wesley.

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: re:some stupid questions
Date: 08 Jan 1997 22:28:36 GMT


>1.  Is CJ Bolland a guy or a girl??  I've heard several tunes from
>him/her, but I don't know what his/her sex is...

Him....long black hair....well the last time i saw him on tele.

>2.  Any of you heard of Paul Hasslinger??

No...whos he ?

>3.  Are there any other versions of Planet of the Shapes out there??

Only live versions (Oscillate 93 and Norwich 92)....might be a few other
boots.

A most excellent track :)

Steve LOOPZ Price.

N.P. "Daymere" - Schematix

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: re:Paul and the environment
Date: 08 Jan 1997 22:37:21 GMT

>
>                Hi Steve, haven't seen you post in a while.

Been busy....new project at work....zine stuff...and the live eps...busy
busy busy.
:)

>I have a question though, I was thinking (and sometimes this
>is not a good thing), does the production of electronic musical
>instruments effect the environment in a negative way?

Tis a good question...
I know that Paul is mad about wasted materials.
We was cleaning out the old studio and there was a box of German flyers
for In Sides and Paul didnt want to just throw them away. His m8s (Mr
Schematix was one) was slagging him down saying "God Paul...give it a
rest".... :)

Paul saw the funny side....kept the box .... "Ill give it my mom" he said
:))))

He also mentioned the 3 cd set - Satan Ep - he wasnt too happy about the
wasted material in that.

Cheers

STeve LOOPZ Price

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: re:RE: Dwr Budr and other questions
Date: 08 Jan 1997 22:39:22 GMT

I have a wav of the reversed sample that i did months ago....if anyone
does want it...what am i letting my self in 4.

STeve

----------------------[Reply - Original Message]----------------------

Sent by:tsee <[e-mail]>
 >>It's just the vocal at the end of the song right?  I can kind of make
out
>>"close
>>your eyes" if that's what you're talking about.  It's not really
>>whispered right?
>>It shifts from right to left all the way 'till the end?
>
>Reserved vocals come to mind...think the close your eyes is a nice
>thought....but youll find its all reversed vocals.
>
>Cheers
>
>Steve
>
>
                Yes, and if you have a good sound card (like a Sound
Blaster
AWE32 for IBM or similiar for Apple/Mac), it will have an application with
it that will allow you to record the song, as a wave file, then reverse
the
wave file.  Thus, I would believe, you could hear the vocals unreversed.
Haven't tried it yet, but I will and let ya know.  Or, if someone else is
more ambitious, let me know if ya know already.

    Bye,

    Trent See


=====================================================================

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: re:RE: RE: Dwr Budr and other questions
Date: 08 Jan 1997 22:45:01 GMT


>                Gave it a shot, and came up with the same thing.  No,
>doesn't sound like Madonna.  Steve or Chris,  do you know who the woman
>is and what she is actually saying--are we right? (I know, getting into
>details again :-))).

I know ,... yep :)
I got corrected by Mr Paul Hartnoll last year....
Ill read the rest of my mail and then ill post summit.

Steve

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: re:RE: RE: AMP
Date: 08 Jan 1997 22:49:06 GMT

Yeah...id agree ... sounds like you Americans are missing out a bit...
The Orbital Live stuff was on the Chill Out Zone (and admittidly they put
it on every Xmas). But thats the Orbital lot for ya really...

Steve LOOPZ Price
N.p. "Magnum Six" - Schematix

----------------------[Reply - Original Message]----------------------

Sent by:Shaun Rader <[e-mail]>
 [e-mail] wrote:

> Dont know where the idea that Electronic music is shown all the while in
> Europe but im in the Uk...home of many a good artist/techno outfit and
the
> Tv still insists on teeny pop stuff.
> Mtv only do one techno prog which is the "Chill Out" zone on Saturday
> 0100hrs for an hour (or 2 depends).

I remember you mentioning that MTV showed an Orbital concert
for an hour during Christmas and I assumed that it was a common
occurrence.  Plus my friend went to Europe last summer and he
mentioned how they always play electronic stuff.  I don't know, maybe
he exaggerated (but anything's more than the US!) and I assumed...

--
.    .   .  . .end of transmission. .  .   .    .


=====================================================================

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: re:Re: (orbital) on tv, film, radio....
Date: 08 Jan 1997 22:56:39 GMT




>And Satan's not a re-release? :-)

certainly was...but not in the same light.

>I feel that releasing 3 CDs is a bit money grabbing, too.

Shop around and you can get them at 1.99 (how on earth is that money
grabbing)....you have more or less an album here.

>Including of Out There Somewhere? and TGWTSIHH which hardly sound any
>different to the album versions is a bit crap.

OTS was a lot shorter....TGWTSIHH is just class anyway....i shocked by the
word crap in the same sentance as thestwo class tracks.

> at least Chime and Impact were worth bothering with.

Impact is the best of the lot....better than Satan id say.

>Then again, they were cheap for the first week, so they'll not have made
>that much money, and everybody knows it'll drop like a stone next week
>when at full price.

All Orbital records come in and shoot out....the sale pitch is from the
Orbital followers grabbing the track in the first week...

>I lent one of my mates the three live CDs and the original with LC1 and
>Belfast the other day, and he said he preferred the original, and was
>going to buy it for the other tracks.

Thats good to hear....spread the word..


Cheers

STeve Loopz Price

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: re:Re: impact usa 12"
Date: 08 Jan 1997 23:01:01 GMT

Its now at 15 pounds.

Impact USA/Lush (1926 Trancedance mix) (12 inch)

Advances ? .... private mail

Steve

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From: tsee <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: The movie "HACKERS"
Date: 08 Jan 1997 15:46:33 -0800

>Thanx for backing me up.  I will try to control my temper next time.  You
>realize you sound like a monk when you say" try to think of a response that
>the brothers might have used"  I'm not trying to make fun of you or anything,
>but it just sounds like were are in a cult or something.  But I guess we are.
>??
>Morpheus
>
>
                *LOL* um, yes, the monks of Orbital, shall we chant?

    Bye,

    Trent See


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From: Geoffrey Elgey <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: stupid questions
Date: 09 Jan 1997 09:52:33 +0000

G'day,

>>2.  Any of you heard of Paul Hasslinger??
>
>No...whos he ?
>

If I remember correctly, Paul Hasslinger was a member of Tangerine Dream,
around '86 or so? Never heard anyway of his work, though.

Cheers,
Geoff


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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: Forgot something...
Date: 08 Jan 1997 20:13:30 -0500 (EST)

In a message dated 97-01-08 01:35:23 EST, you write:

<<                 Hi Steve, haven't seen you post in a while.  I kind of
 thought so after watching 'The Box' video from MTV's AMP.  Especially when
 the woman is watching the televisions in the window--I have it on tape so I
 might put it on slow motion to get all the words flashed on the televisions.
>>

I have already posted that.  I did the same thing you did.  I'm not sure if I
still have it.  But if you want me to look for it I can.

Morpheus

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: Dwr Budr and other questions
Date: 08 Jan 1997 21:21:25 -0500 (EST)

In a message dated 97-01-08 01:54:06 EST, you write:

<<                Yes, and if you have a good sound card (like a Sound
Blaster
 AWE32 for IBM or similiar for Apple/Mac), it will have an application with
 it that will allow you to record the song, as a wave file, then reverse the
 wave file.  Thus, I would believe, you could hear the vocals unreversed.
 Haven't tried it yet, but I will and let ya know.  Or, if someone else is
 more ambitious, let me know if ya know already. >>

i have already done this.  It's not reversed speaking.  The girl is saying
Dwr Budr.

Morpheus

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From: Brian Davis <[e-mail]>
Subject: orbital live on internet
Date: 08 Jan 1997 21:03:04 -0600

um...hey all....just found out orbital is live on the internet...it's
9:00 pm central here and electric skychurch is playing now...orbital
comes on
once they finish...go there now....http://www.liveconcerts.com
(sorry if this old news...but i heard nothing of it...)
i think it goes in their archives if you miss it....

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: Dwr Budr and other questions
Date: 08 Jan 1997 22:05:33 -0500 (EST)

In a message dated 97-01-08 02:05:57 EST, you write:

<< Matt, I have just posted a way of reversing wav files before
 this email.  Try it and see what you find. >>
Yeah, I saw it, but I don't think I'll try it since I'd rather believe she's
saying "close your eyes."  Maybe a bit self-deluding, but I think it's a lot
cooler that way. =)

Matt

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From: "Nappy Head" <[e-mail]>
Subject: is it any wonda?
Date: 08 Jan 1997 22:01:26 -0500

IS IT ANY WONDA???



((( nappy head --> [e-mail] )))
(( " and they catch him, and they say he's mental... " ))



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From: The Box <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: The movie "HACKERS"
Date: 08 Jan 1997 22:36:30 -0500 (EST)

On Tue, 7 Jan 1997 [e-mail] wrote:

>
> In a message dated 97-01-06 19:59:48 EST, you write:
>
> << Errr, yes it is. Jonny Lee Miller. I promise. He's on the cover of both
>  CD's, too.  >>
>
> So then is Johnny Lee Miller on the cover for the Trainspotting soundtrack
> twice?  Because they show Johnny Lee Miller in one of the pictures at the
> bottom and then sickboy on the top.  That's why I thought they were different
> characters.

Umm, which one do you think is Sick Boy?

halcyon <n> - A fabled bird, identified with the kingfisher, that was
supposed to have had the power to calm the wind and the waves during
winter solstice while it rested on the sea.
      <adj> - 1. Calm and peaceful; tranquil.
          2. Prosperous; golden.


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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: serenity dub 2.1
Date: 08 Jan 1997 22:37:33 -0800

Sean Strout wrote:
>
> Anyone else out there have Serenity Dub 2.1 off the
> incoming! label?  Cosa Nostra's track 'This Thing
> of Ours' is the quintessential jazz/dub/ambient track,
> which received many awards for best ambient song
> of 1995.
>
> Check it out if you get a chance, great stuff.
>
> obOrbital: do the hartnoll's bros. use mostly samples,
> or do they craft sounds off real equipment (are they
> actual keyboard players or strictly knob twiddlers?)
>
> -s.what does this mean?  what is the difference between "crafting sounds
off real equip" and being a knob twiddler?  aren't they the same thing?

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From: The Box <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: moby
Date: 08 Jan 1997 22:40:45 -0500 (EST)

On Tue, 7 Jan 1997, Michael A. Polisky wrote:

> I remember people talking about Moby re-mixing the Smashing Pumpkins
> tune 1979. Is that tre? Has Anyone Heard it? Opinions? What disc is it
> on?

    Yup. I've got it. It's pretty cool. Totally and completely mangled
the original version. You wouldn't know it's the same song.

halcyon <n> - A fabled bird, identified with the kingfisher, that was
supposed to have had the power to calm the wind and the waves during
winter solstice while it rested on the sea.
      <adj> - 1. Calm and peaceful; tranquil.
          2. Prosperous; golden.


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From: The Box <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Wink
Date: 08 Jan 1997 22:49:08 -0500 (EST)

On Wed, 8 Jan 1997, Ernesto Perez wrote:

> i believe his best remixes are psychosonik's "unlearn" and n-joi's "bad
> thing". anyone else have a fave?

    Yeah, the Unlearn remix is pretty groovy. I still like the
original better, tho..

halcyon <n> - A fabled bird, identified with the kingfisher, that was
supposed to have had the power to calm the wind and the waves during
winter solstice while it rested on the sea.
      <adj> - 1. Calm and peaceful; tranquil.
          2. Prosperous; golden.


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From: tsee <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Forgot something...
Date: 08 Jan 1997 23:22:28 -0800

> the woman is watching the televisions in the window--I have it on tape so I
> might put it on slow motion to get all the words flashed on the televisions.
>>>
>
>I have already posted that.  I did the same thing you did.  I'm not sure if I
>still have it.  But if you want me to look for it I can.
>
>Morpheus
>
>
                It would be greatly appreciated Morpheus, would save me the
effort if you please :-).

    Bye,

    Trent See


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From: tsee <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Dwr Budr and other questions
Date: 08 Jan 1997 23:24:09 -0800

At 09:21 PM 1/8/97 -0500, you wrote:
>In a message dated 97-01-08 01:54:06 EST, you write:
>
><<                Yes, and if you have a good sound card (like a Sound
>Blaster
> AWE32 for IBM or similiar for Apple/Mac), it will have an application with
> it that will allow you to record the song, as a wave file, then reverse the
> wave file.  Thus, I would believe, you could hear the vocals unreversed.
> Haven't tried it yet, but I will and let ya know.  Or, if someone else is
> more ambitious, let me know if ya know already. >>
>
>i have already done this.  It's not reversed speaking.  The girl is saying
>Dwr Budr.
>
>Morpheus
>
>
                Really?  Well geez, that makes me feel kinda stupid (it
would be only logical for them to put the name of the song in the lyrics).
Oh well, thanks for clearing that up!

    Bye,

    Trent See


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From: [e-mail] (Joakim Hedstrom)
Subject: Orbital equipment
Date: 09 Jan 1997 09:58:57 +0100

Anyone out there that knows what equip Orbital uses?

/ J


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From: [e-mail]
Subject: re:Re: impact usa 12"
Date: 09 Jan 1997 9:09:00 GMT


12 Inch - Impact USA/Lush (1926 Trancedance Mix)

is now at 16 Pound British dosh.

Advances/Mail Privately.

Cheers

Steve LOOPZ Price.

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From: "Seamus (James) Swift" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Resources ?
Date: 09 Jan 1997 09:50:13 -0000

Hello, I'm new to this mailing list.
Can anyone tell some Orbital web sites and resources, other than
http://www.rise.co.uk/orbital/

Thanks.


..............................................................
            mailto:[e-mail]
 http://www.griffin.co.uk/users/whois

Seamus Swift

News Today : "Suicidal twin kills sister by mistake!"

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From: Jon Green <[e-mail]>
Subject: re:Satan live CDs
Date: 09 Jan 1997 11:17:46 +0000

At 22:56 08/01/97 GMT, [e-mail] wrote:

>>Including of Out There Somewhere? and TGWTSIHH which hardly sound any
>>different to the album versions is a bit crap.
>
>OTS was a lot shorter....TGWTSIHH is just class anyway....i shocked by the
>word crap in the same sentance as thestwo class tracks.

Oh god, I'm not saying the tracks are crap, far from it, they're just not as
great as the originals. I prefer to hear live versions of the older tracks
which tend to be more improvised and different to the originals, that's all

>> at least Chime and Impact were worth bothering with.
>
>Impact is the best of the lot....better than Satan id say.

Agreed, Satan's good, but not as good as Impact or Chime


Jon Green: [e-mail]
"The less effort one puts in, the greater
satisfaction one gains from a good result"



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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re[2]: The movie "HACKERS"
Date: 09 Jan 1997 11:53:37 -0500


Oh no - don't start all this again! ;)

______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________
Author:  The Box <[e-mail]> at Internet2


On Tue, 7 Jan 1997 [e-mail] wrote:

>
> In a message dated 97-01-06 19:59:48 EST, you write:
>
> << Errr, yes it is. Jonny Lee Miller. I promise. He's on the cover of both
>  CD's, too.  >>
>
> So then is Johnny Lee Miller on the cover for the Trainspotting soundtrack
> twice?  Because they show Johnny Lee Miller in one of the pictures at the
> bottom and then sickboy on the top.  That's why I thought they were different
> characters.

Umm, which one do you think is Sick Boy?

halcyon <n> - A fabled bird, identified with the kingfisher, that was
supposed to have had the power to calm the wind and the waves during
winter solstice while it rested on the sea.
      <adj> - 1. Calm and peaceful; tranquil.
              2. Prosperous; golden.


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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re[2]: serenity dub 2.1
Date: 09 Jan 1997 11:55:26 -0500

     >
     > -s.what does this mean?  what is the difference between "crafting
     >sounds off real equip" and being a knob twiddler?  aren't they the
     >same thing?

     One takes talent?



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From: lysergic ad naseum <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Orbital equipment
Date: 09 Jan 1997 07:00:46 -0600

yes...  i interviewed them and they went over the different keyboards they
used live and in the studio...  the interview is posted and you can reach it
thru a link on my website at http://hudson.idt.net/~lyserg19

hope it helps...


                                                -lysergic

At 09:58 AM 1/9/97 +0100, Joakim Hedstrom wrote:
>Anyone out there that knows what equip Orbital uses?
>
>/ J
>
>
>


everything's ##################################################  you too
             # The Lysergic Dream - The Dark Beyond The Stars #
    gone     # the new full length release, available NOW!!!! #  will be
             #  http://hudson.idt.net/~lyserg19 for more info #
  lysergic   ################################################## assimilated



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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: orbital live on internet
Date: 09 Jan 1997 11:57:05 -0500

     Aw BALLS!  It sucks being stuck behind a firewall & unable to use
     Realaudio, sob!


______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________
Author:  Brian Davis <[e-mail]> at Internet2


um...hey all....just found out orbital is live on the internet...it's
9:00 pm central here and electric skychurch is playing now...orbital
comes on
once they finish...go there now....http://www.liveconcerts.com
(sorry if this old news...but i heard nothing of it...)
i think it goes in their archives if you miss it....

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re[4]: Dwr Budr and other questions
Date: 09 Jan 1997 11:58:57 -0500

     Who is she?


______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________
Author:  [e-mail] at Internet2



>                Gave it a shot, and came up with the same thing.  No,
>doesn't sound like Madonna.  Steve or Chris,  do you know who the woman
>is and what she is actually saying--are we right? (I know, getting into
>details again :-))).

I know ,... yep :)
I got corrected by Mr Paul Hartnoll last year....
Ill read the rest of my mail and then ill post summit.

Steve

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From: "Michael A. Polisky" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Wink
Date: 09 Jan 1997 09:37:03 -0500


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On Wed, 8 Jan 1997, Ernesto Perez wrote:
> i believe his best remixes are psychosonik's "unlearn" and n-joi's
"bad > thing". anyone else have a > fave?
I remember a track called "Dont laugh" or something. Its got a repeating
"ha ha ha ha ha ha ha.." It drove me nuts the first time I heard it.
mike!
[e-mail]

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and n-joi's "bad > thing". anyone else have a > fave? </DT>

<DT>I remember a track called "Dont laugh" or something. Its
got a repeating "ha ha ha ha ha ha ha.." It drove me nuts the
first time I heard it.</DT>

<DT>mike!</DT>

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: Wink
Date: 09 Jan 1997 11:31:16 -0500 (EST)

How do I get off of this mailing list? PLEASE HELP!!

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: re:Dwr Budr (Reversed)
Date: 09 Jan 1997 17:30:50 GMT


>>>>>
i have already done this.  It's not reversed speaking.  The girl is saying
Dwr Budr.

Morpheus
>>>>>>>

Ahem!

Tis!

Steve LOOPZ Price.
Orbital Zine

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: re:Dwr Budr - who is it!
Date: 09 Jan 1997 17:49:20 GMT


>      Who is she?

Believe it or not....i confronted Paul (in the pub of all places) after he
had a few. Thought this is the ideal time to ask him about samples...he
dont like sample talk much.

I asked him whether it was Madonna...as i had this theory it was. He
said...nah its Alison Goldfrapp. I thought strange! Dont sound like her!

I told him id mentioned this on the mailing list (back in the summer 96)
and he laughed (a lot!).

He then said ... i "reversed" her singing. I asked what she was saying.

The answer: nothing .... she just makes it up as she goes along.

There you go.... who said it werent reversed ;)

Steve LOOPZ Price
Orbital Zine

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: some stupid questions
Date: 09 Jan 1997 18:48:00 GMT


>cj is a guy.

and what a guy...
  _________________  ______  ___________   ___
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    |___|   \______/|______/|______/   |___|

                             =20
     =20

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: Paul and the environment
Date: 09 Jan 1997 18:48:33 GMT


>We was cleaning out the old studio and there was a box of German flyers=20
>for In Sides and Paul didnt want to just throw them away

simple, use the recycled flyers to make cardboard covers for the
records :)
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                             =20
     =20

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: impact usa 12"
Date: 09 Jan 1997 18:49:05 GMT

Lush (1926 Trancedance mix) (12 inch)

what does this sound like and who's the rmx by?

  _________________  ______  ___________   ___
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From: "Aaron S. Gregory" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Resources ?
Date: 09 Jan 1997 14:14:25 -0800

Seamus (James) Swift pleaded...

> Hello, I'm new to this mailing list.
> Can anyone tell some Orbital web sites and resources, other than
> http://www.rise.co.uk/orbital/

Welcome SEAMUS!!
(ok, somewhat of a personal plug here)

check out...
http://grove.ufl.edu/~gregas/resources.html#ORB

(yes, LOOPZ is near the top....settle down steve!)

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From: Geoffrey Elgey <[e-mail]>
Subject: Holy Wars
Date: 10 Jan 1997 08:37:37 +0000

G'day,

If anyone here is not subscribed to the IDM mailing list, you are missing
what can only be described as a Holy War. You see, "In Sides" was voted the
best IDM release of 1996, a fact which has put a few noses out of joint.
There has since followed several rather eloquent & moving defences/reviews
of In Sides in particular and Orbital in general, as well as the usual
whining from those who think that increased popularity by Orbital = less
credibility as artists.

BTW: Where did In Sides rate in the NME top 50 list? I only saw a bit of it
at my local rekkid store the other day. Not that I can take it seriously -
NME had Underworld at #37, while Kula Shaka are somewhere in the top 15
(Brando-esque voice: "The Horror!").

Cheers,
Geoff




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From: Aleksandra Adamovic <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Holy Wars
Date: 10 Jan 1997 00:01:03 +0100 (MET)

No 3...



On Fri, 10 Jan 1997, Geoffrey Elgey wrote:

> G'day,
>
> If anyone here is not subscribed to the IDM mailing list, you are missing
> what can only be described as a Holy War. You see, "In Sides" was voted the
> best IDM release of 1996, a fact which has put a few noses out of joint.
> There has since followed several rather eloquent & moving defences/reviews
> of In Sides in particular and Orbital in general, as well as the usual
> whining from those who think that increased popularity by Orbital = less
> credibility as artists.
>
> BTW: Where did In Sides rate in the NME top 50 list? I only saw a bit of it
> at my local rekkid store the other day. Not that I can take it seriously -
> NME had Underworld at #37, while Kula Shaka are somewhere in the top 15
> (Brando-esque voice: "The Horror!").
>
> Cheers,
> Geoff
>
>
>
>


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From: tsee <[e-mail]>
Subject: non list subject, kill message if don`t like--(I got this
Date: 09 Jan 1997 16:11:56 -0800

>Return-Path: <[e-mail]>
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>Date: Thu, 9 Jan 1997 17:41:33 +0200
>X-Sender: [e-mail] (Unverified)
>To: [e-mail]
>From: [e-mail] (Harry Piela)
>Subject: non list subject, kill message if don`t like
>Cc: [e-mail]
>X-Attachments: C:\WPWIN60\KUVAT\NOVA.JPG;
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>Resent-Sender: [e-mail]
>
>Here in this list is maybe some other proud parents like me ?! I have a son
>(15 now) born with computer. First he used to be normal computer kid,
>playing, programming and surfing. But then he found the music. Now he is
>making tecno and soft music, and has released some records already. However,
>his first public, live performance shall take place 31/1, as seen on flyer
>enclosed. He is member of group Suolahappo (hydroclohric acid), and gee, I`m
>proud of this.
>Should you have teenagers, they are welcomed to party (even it is tecno
>rave, no drugs here ...) and/or take contact to Samu at [e-mail].
>Sorry causing your mailbox filling.
>Harry
>
>
>Attachment Converted: c:\eudora\attach\NOVA.JPG
>

    Bye,

    Trent See


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From: tsee <[e-mail]>
Subject: re:Dwr Budr - who is it!
Date: 09 Jan 1997 16:17:41 -0800

>
>>      Who is she?
>
>Believe it or not....i confronted Paul (in the pub of all places) after he
>had a few. Thought this is the ideal time to ask him about samples...he
>dont like sample talk much.
>
>I asked him whether it was Madonna...as i had this theory it was. He
>said...nah its Alison Goldfrapp. I thought strange! Dont sound like her!
>
>I told him id mentioned this on the mailing list (back in the summer 96)
>and he laughed (a lot!).
>
>He then said ... i "reversed" her singing. I asked what she was saying.
>
>The answer: nothing .... she just makes it up as she goes along.
>
>There you go.... who said it werent reversed ;)
>
>Steve LOOPZ Price
>Orbital Zine
>
>
                Cool!  Thanks Steve, no we all know the real story (the
rumors were fun though ;-).

    Bye,

    Trent See


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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: Dwr Budr - who is it!
Date: 09 Jan 1997 20:52:13 -0500 (EST)

Awwww, poo!  I'm still gonna say she says "close your eyes"  =P

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: re:Orbital Virgin!
Date: 10 Jan 1997 9:11:46 GMT

I remember Digger (yes...Mr Chain Mail himself!) was asking about doing a
compilation tape for a person who had never heard any Orbital.

Ive just introduced two people (Orbital Virgins ) at work to some Orbital
and this comprised of sorting a tape of stuff for them...

Some might be interested to what i stuck on the tape...here it is...

SideA - All Studio Stuff

Belfast (1991)
Kinetic (1992)
Dwr Budr (1996)
Forever (1994)
Out There Somewhere (Part 2) (1996)
Quality Seconds (1994)

SideB - Live and ISDN broadcasts

Satan (Live New York) (1996)
Impact (Live Chelmsford) (1996)
Sad But New (ISDN Radio 1 Broadcast - complete with John Major speech)
(1995)
Chime (Live at Norwich) (Complete with Madonna sample (Crime)) (1992)
Halcyon (Live at Boston (Complete with BJ and Belinda Sample) (1996)
P.E.T.R.O.L (Live New Years Eve Ally Pally) (1996/1997)

Wonder what they will think....

Steve LOOPZ Price.

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From: "flava" <[e-mail]>
Subject: punishment for net surfing chumps
Date: 10 Jan 1997 11:26:06 GMT Standard Time

recently develped elements in position...
BENski
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From: Digger <[e-mail]>
Subject: re:Orbital Virgin!
Date: 10 Jan 1997 05:49:19 -0500

I too (again) have done another tape for an Orbital virgin...
I had a 120 minute tape (60 minutes each side) which made it very nice! I
got a lot of stuff on there!
Well if anyone is interested this is what i put on mine:)
All studio stuff an well...


A:=20
The Moebius (Green Album)
Speed Freak *Moby Remix* (Green Album)
Fahrenheit 3D3 (Green Album)
Satan (Green Album)
Choice (Green Album)
Planet Of The Shapes (Brown Album)
Impact *The Earth Is Burning* (Brown Album)
Remind (Brown Album)
B:=20
Walk Now=85 (Brown Album)
Halcyon + On + On  (Brown Album)
Sad But True (Snivilisation)
Are We Here? (Snivilisation)
Crash & Carry (Snivilisation)
Kein Trink Wasser (Snivilisation)
Quality Seconds (Snivilisation)
Lush 3 *Eurotunnel Disaster =9194* /Walk About *John Peel Sessions*=
 (Diversions)
Lush 3-4 Warrior Drift Psychick Warriors OV GAIA (Diversions)
Lush 3-3 *Underworld* (Diversions)
Out There Somewhere?? (In Sides)(the beginning of 1 and then jumped to 2)

That was it and i've already heard rave reviews from the person i gave the
tape to!
We now listen to Orbital during gym (in the weight room).
You see I don't think i mentioned it befor but i gave this tape to my gym
teacher (strangely enough she asked me for the tape after seeing one of the
CD covers from my CD)
And there are a couple of people in my gym class who like Orbital now also!
Its a wonderful life!

P.S.  Steve I think your play list is GREAT! I wish i could have put some
live stuff on mine! Unfortunately i don't have any live stuff!  And i only
have dial-up access to the net so i couldn't get REAL AUDIO to work well!

__________________________Original Mesage___________
At 09:11 AM 1/10/97 GMT, you wrote:
>I remember Digger (yes...Mr Chain Mail himself!) was asking about doing a=
=20
                                Hey have I posted chain crap lately? NO!

>compilation tape for a person who had never heard any Orbital.
>
>Ive just introduced two people (Orbital Virgins ) at work to some Orbital=
=20
>and this comprised of sorting a tape of stuff for them...
>
>Some might be interested to what i stuck on the tape...here it is...
>
>SideA - All Studio Stuff
>
>Belfast (1991)
>Kinetic (1992)
>Dwr Budr (1996)
>Forever (1994)
>Out There Somewhere (Part 2) (1996)
>Quality Seconds (1994)
>
>SideB - Live and ISDN broadcasts
>
>Satan (Live New York) (1996)
>Impact (Live Chelmsford) (1996)
>Sad But New (ISDN Radio 1 Broadcast - complete with John Major speech)=20
>(1995)
>Chime (Live at Norwich) (Complete with Madonna sample (Crime)) (1992)
>Halcyon (Live at Boston (Complete with BJ and Belinda Sample) (1996)
>P.E.T.R.O.L (Live New Years Eve Ally Pally) (1996/1997)
>
>Wonder what they will think....
>
>Steve LOOPZ Price.
>
>
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Thank You,
    Digger                [e-mail]
                        Http://www.jorsm.com/~digger
           I Am Lost And Have Gone To Look For Myself=20
         If I Should Get Back Before I Return Please Ask Me To Wait.
         <img src=3D"http://www.jorsm.com/~digger/images/diggersig.gif">
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From: [e-mail]
Subject: re:Re: Dwr Budr - who is it!
Date: 10 Jan 1997 14:29:00 GMT

hehehehe
this did make me laugh :)

What other vocals can we discuss...how about the Phil Collins rumour i
started ?

Steve

----------------------[Reply - Original Message]----------------------

Sent by:[e-mail]
 Awwww, poo!  I'm still gonna say she says "close your eyes"  =P

=====================================================================

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From: Easley Jerry W <[e-mail]>
Subject: re:Orbital Virgin!
Date: 10 Jan 1997 08:32:48 -0600 (CST)

HOW DO YOU GET OFF THIS LIST???????


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From: "Seamus (James) Swift" <[e-mail]>
Subject: May be of Interest ?
Date: 10 Jan 1997 15:05:34 -0000

Here is something I knocked up with a sample from Snivilisation and frm a
track called "Mad Rush" by Philip Glass (1937).

http://www.griffin.co.uk/whois/sample.htm

.............................................................
            mailto:[e-mail]
 http://www.griffin.co.uk/users/whois

Seamus Swift

News Today : "Suicidal twin kills sister by mistake!"

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From: shai drori <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Orbital Virgin!
Date: 10 Jan 1997 17:30:05 +0200

Easley Jerry W wrote:
>
> HOW DO YOU GET OFF THIS LIST???????
i've subscribed to this list and now i get 40 massages a day.
so when you find out how to do it , let me know.
shai

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From: Jon Green <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Wink
Date: 10 Jan 1997 16:14:51 +0000

At 09:37 09/01/97 -0500, Michael A. Polisky wrote:
>
>
>On Wed, 8 Jan 1997, Ernesto Perez wrote:
>> i believe his best remixes are psychosonik's "unlearn" and n-joi's
>"bad > thing". anyone else have a > fave?
>I remember a track called "Dont laugh" or something. Its got a repeating
>"ha ha ha ha ha ha ha.." It drove me nuts the first time I heard it.
>mike!

'Don't laugh' is ace. Most of the people I know say it drives them up the
wall, which just makes me like it even more.

Jon


Jon Green: [e-mail]
"The less effort one puts in, the greater
satisfaction one gains from a good result"



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From: "Lazlo Nibble" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Leaving the List
Date: 10 Jan 1997 09:49:15 -0700 (MST)

>> HOW DO YOU GET OFF THIS LIST???????
>
> i've subscribed to this list and now i get 40 massages a day.
> so when you find out how to do it , let me know.

Think back . . . way back . . . it might even be two or three weeks ago . . .
to when you first joined this list . . . think about how you did it . . .
think REALLY HARD about it . . .

--
::: Lazlo ([e-mail]; http://www.swcp.com/lazlo)

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From: Easley Jerry W <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Orbital Virgin!
Date: 10 Jan 1997 11:11:22 -0600 (CST)

On Fri, 10 Jan 1997, shai drori wrote:

> Easley Jerry W wrote:
> >
> > HOW DO YOU GET OFF THIS LIST???????
> i've subscribed to this list and now i get 40 massages a day.
> so when you find out how to do it , let me know.
> shai


Will do.

Jay



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From: ^EA^ <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Leaving the List
Date: 10 Jan 1997 12:27:13 -0800

Lazlo Nibble wrote:

> Think back . . . way back . . . it might even be two or three weeks ago . . .
> to when you first joined this list . . . think about how you did it . . .
> think REALLY HARD about it . . .
>

Majordomo's the lot of them...

Mick



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From: [e-mail]
Subject: re: Resources, vocals, GC, idm
Date: 10 Jan 1997 13:02:34 -0500 (EST)

Quick plug for Seamus and the rest of the list: Stopped Clock is @

http://www.york.ac.uk/~wjb101/orbital.html

and is my own Orbital webspace- interviews, reviews, discography,
recommendations, live dates and some other gubbins. Coming soon- Satan
review.

Didn't everyone else think the Dwr Budr vocals were Alison Goldfrapp? It's
not exactly like it's massively different from the stuff on Brown or Sniv.
that's credited. (Maybe the concealment on In Sides was necessary because of
her work with Tricky?)

Reviving briefly the GC thread, I bought this last week too, didn't like it,
but listened to it again and it's ok (especially 'the deep'). [The mixes
appear to be on the 2x12" not the CD, Jon.]

Glad someone else posted about the (developing? Haven't read idm for the last
two digests) flamewar over Orbital. At some point I'll extract it and bung it
on the website and point you people at it, if you're interested. (Or try
www.hyperreal.com/music/lists/idm, but that's been flaky recently).
Anyone else remembering someone posting, after a discussion of Underworld or
something, that this list resembles idm lite? (Not that I want to start a
flamewar here or anything.)

Someone else on IDM (I'll attribute it if I get time) said some of the quotes
on The Box video were from Douglas Coupland's 'Generation X'. Anyone who's
read 'Microserfs' with it's computer unconcious thread will understand how
this is possible, but is it true?

Monsters exist.
[e-mail].
http://members.aol.com/pmison/

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From: "Seamus (James) Swift" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: re:Orbital Virgin!
Date: 10 Jan 1997 18:39:16 -0000

----------
> From: Easley Jerry W <[e-mail]>
> To: [e-mail]
> Cc: [e-mail]
> Subject: re:Orbital Virgin!
> Date: Friday, January 10, 1997 2:32 PM
>
> HOW DO YOU GET OFF THIS LIST???????


To get off this list send a mail message to [e-mail] with the
following line in the body of the message.

unsubscribe orbital [e-mail]


Hope this helps !



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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Oooooh!  (Trivial stuff...)
Date: 10 Jan 1997 15:54:29 -0500

     Oh man, hadn't heard a note of Orbital in at least a week (horror!),
     but it was worth it - I now know that Chime can still make me smile,
     and give me the shivers!


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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Steel Cube Idolatry
Date: 10 Jan 1997 16:04:34 -0500

        Anyone know what "Steel Cube Idolatry" refers to??

     ... and "Adnan's" - any clues?

     ... and does "P.E.T.R.O.L." an acronym for something?

     ponder ponder ponder....

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re[2]: Orbital Virgin!
Date: 10 Jan 1997 17:28:57 -0500

     40 MASSAGES - most people wouldn't complain (unless they had an ugly
     masseuse!) heh heh...

     sorry - couldn't resist!


______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________
Author:  shai drori <[e-mail]> at Internet2


Easley Jerry W wrote:
>
> HOW DO YOU GET OFF THIS LIST???????
i've subscribed to this list and now i get 40 massages a day.
so when you find out how to do it , let me know.
shai

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From: [e-mail] (Sean Strout)
Subject: Re: Leaving the List
Date: 10 Jan 1997 11:13:37 PST

> >> HOW DO YOU GET OFF THIS LIST???????
> >
> > i've subscribed to this list and now i get 40 massages a day.
> > so when you find out how to do it , let me know.
>
> Think back . . . way back . . . it might even be two or three weeks ago . . .
> to when you first joined this list . . . think about how you did it . . .
> think REALLY HARD about it . . .

doesn't it involve something to do with tapping your ruby
red slippers together three times and repeatedly
reciting "i wish i was in kansas. i wish i was in kansas"?

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From: "RCOPELLO.HFM.COM" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Some questions...
Date: 10 Jan 1997 16:42:46 -0500


I'm pretty new at this list, as well as a new orbital fan, anyhow, which album
contains that Satan song they keep playing live?

                                                      Roger C




-


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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: Dwr Budr - who is it!
Date: 10 Jan 1997 18:45:23 -0500 (EST)

In a message dated 97-01-09 12:57:18 EST, you write:

<< He then said ... i "reversed" her singing. I asked what she was saying.

 The answer: nothing .... she just makes it up as she goes along.

 There you go.... who said it werent reversed ;) >>

Well I guess I'm wrong, but Mine was more logical then Close your Eyes (don't
mean to put you down) but it does sound like she is saying Dwr Budr.  And if
you listen to the singing at the beginning of the song it definitly sounds
like she is saying Dwr Budr.

Morpheus

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: Dwr Budr and other questions
Date: 10 Jan 1997 18:47:54 -0500 (EST)

In a message dated 97-01-09 18:34:02 EST, you write:

<< if this person says Dwr Budr, then how is it pronounced???  if i remember
 right the first word is pronouced somewhat like "du-er" (whoever said that
 can correct me if im way off... B^)  )

 lay-ter.. >>

I stand corrected.  Someone (I forget who)  said that I was wrong.  It
doesn't say anything.  It's some girl singing about nothing and it is
reversed.  But, at the beginning of the song, it is very clear that she says
Dwr Budr.  Even if it is reveresed, the brothers probably munipulated it to
say Dwr Budr.  So to answer your question, I think it is like
dwer budder

Morpheus

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: Some new groups
Date: 10 Jan 1997 19:55:05 -0500 (EST)

I feel that Orbital are one of the very few electronic bands that actually
are musicians.  Im not discrediting anyone, but Orbital has many elements in
their songs that are, as Daniel said, unlike anything else.

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: Images plus a little Sugarcubes
Date: 10 Jan 1997 20:03:41 -0500 (EST)

Bjork did a couple songs with 808 on their EX:EL album.  Also, has anyone
heard of aethetic emotions?  In music, they're suupposedly only available
from classical and jazz, but I get them with several Orbital songs, as well
as a couple other electronic bands, mostly songs with high-pitched leads
floating around.

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: Images plus a little Sugarcubes
Date: 10 Jan 1997 23:00:06 -0500 (EST)

In a message dated 97-01-10 20:08:35 EST, you write:

<<
 Bjork did a couple songs with 808 on their EX:EL album. >>
Speaking of 808.....how many records do they have and is EX EL representative
of what their others are like??

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From: [e-mail] (Deborah Brooks)
Subject: re: Resources, vocals, GC, idm
Date: 11 Jan 1997 10:48:12 -0500

You were saying Orbital did work with Tricky...Please elaborat.
R.J.

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: atari teenage riot
Date: 11 Jan 1997 13:36:26 -0500 (EST)

     someone said that atr shown on amp last week was crap, and truth be
known I dont like them that much either but they should be understood:
first, I read an interview with atr and their philosophy was one of
revolution within the world of electronica.  To them, "house is disco, and
techno is progressive rock,'' so therefore they're not indie kids looking to
fuck with pansy synth-fags, but scene members looking to aleviate their
boredom/disgust with rave-culture.  I can see where they're coming from but
personally, butt-shaking and bleeps and squiggles and a higher dancing plane
are true and total mother's milk for me.  So, anyway, props to he who seeks
new shoes...and if I am to be executed in atr's revolution, then fuck 'em,
I'll just keep dancing in the next world.

love, Khugo

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: re:Re: Dwr Budr and other questions
Date: 11 Jan 1997 17:59:11 GMT



>I stand corrected.  Someone (I forget who)

Grrrrrrr....

> said that I was wrong.  It doesn't say anything.  It's some girl singing
>about nothing and it is reversed.  But, at the beginning of the song, it
>is very clear that she says Dwr Budr.  Even if it is reveresed, the
>brothers probably munipulated it to say Dwr Budr.  So to answer your
>question, I think it is like  dwer budder

I never knew you could speak and understand Welsh ?

<BFG>

Steve LOOPZ Price.

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: re:Re: Images plus a little Sugarcubes
Date: 11 Jan 1997 18:01:40 GMT

808 State have a few albums (over 4) and a lot of Eps...they have been
going a long time. If need be ill dig out some info....

Steve

----------------------[Reply - Original Message]----------------------

Sent by:[e-mail]
 In a message dated 97-01-10 20:08:35 EST, you write:

<<
 Bjork did a couple songs with 808 on their EX:EL album. >>
Speaking of 808.....how many records do they have and is EX EL
representative
of what their others are like??

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: re:Some questions...
Date: 11 Jan 1997 17:57:48 GMT

None officially....but if u are in the US...the Us version of the first
album known as the Untitled I or the Yellow Album or the Green Album or
the snotty album :) has Satan on there....but it is an old version.

Cheers

Steve

----------------------[Reply - Original Message]----------------------

Sent by:"RCOPELLO.HFM.COM" <[e-mail]>

I'm pretty new at this list, as well as a new orbital fan, anyhow, which
album
contains that Satan song they keep playing live?

                                                      Roger C




-


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From: [e-mail]
Subject: re:Re: Dwr Budr - who is it!
Date: 11 Jan 1997 18:00:05 GMT

Are you doubting what Paul Hartnoll said ? :)

Of course im joking...with ya! :)

Steve

----------------------[Reply - Original Message]----------------------

Sent by:[e-mail]
 In a message dated 97-01-09 12:57:18 EST, you write:

<< He then said ... i "reversed" her singing. I asked what she was saying.

 The answer: nothing .... she just makes it up as she goes along.

 There you go.... who said it werent reversed ;) >>

Well I guess I'm wrong, but Mine was more logical then Close your Eyes
(don't
mean to put you down) but it does sound like she is saying Dwr Budr.  And
if
you listen to the singing at the beginning of the song it definitly sounds
like she is saying Dwr Budr.

Morpheus

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: re:Steel Cube Idolatry
Date: 11 Jan 1997 17:56:44 GMT



>         Anyone know what "Steel Cube Idolatry" refers to??

err ...ill get back to this one.

>     ... and "Adnan's" - any clues?

Was the Croatian persons name that came to UK for hospital treatment. Have
got the full story on this one somewhere (but not at work!) ;)

>     ... and does "P.E.T.R.O.L." an acronym for something?

Its spelling the word Petrol - in order to drum the environment issues
into the thick MPs heads! (i made the last bit up!) :)

Cheers

Steve

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: Re[2]: Orbital Virgin!
Date: 11 Jan 1997 14:46:46 -0500 (EST)

In a message dated 97-01-10 14:15:42 EST, you write:

<< 40 MASSAGES - most people wouldn't complain (unless they had an ugly
      masseuse!) heh heh... >>
That is so terrible it's funny =P

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: Dwr Budr - who is it!
Date: 11 Jan 1997 14:49:23 -0500 (EST)

But close your eyes is a lot more poetic!!  Aesthetics, my boy, aesthetics!!!

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: Images plus a little Sugarcubes
Date: 11 Jan 1997 14:52:11 -0500 (EST)

While we're still talking about Bjork, I found a little oddity on my
Violently Happy single...maybe someone can clear this up for me.
How can Graham Massey's "Other mix" be longer than the "Long mix?"

Matt

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: atari teenage riot
Date: 11 Jan 1997 15:02:59 -0500 (EST)

I agree---more power to Alec Empire if he wants to start a revolution, but
his music still sounds like crap....

Matt

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: Images plus a little Sugarcubes
Date: 11 Jan 1997 15:05:07 -0500 (EST)

In a message dated 97-01-11 14:00:02 EST, you write:

<< 808 State have a few albums (over 4) and a lot of Eps...they have been
 going a long time. If need be ill dig out some info....

 Steve >>
Steve, bro, you do way too much work for the members of this list!  Not that
we don't appreciate it...maybe we should send you a plaque or something

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Orbital vs. ????
Date: 11 Jan 1997 15:16:51 -0500 (EST)

I've been thinking about how cool it would be for Orbital to work with some
other people, and I was wondering who you guys would like to see them work
with.  I'd really like to see them work w/Bjork (I know we've brought that
one up before), Underworld (in more than a remixing context), and maybe the
Chemical Brothers (I know they aren't all that talented, but they can come up
w/a wicked beat).  Anyway, I'd appreciate any feedback you guys wanna give me
on this.

Thanx,
Matt

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: Orbital vs. ????
Date: 11 Jan 1997 15:28:17 -0500 (EST)

something out of leftfield but that makes sense somehow:  B-52's or ABC, or
better yet , me, Khugo

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: Orbital vs. ????
Date: 11 Jan 1997 17:14:22 -0500 (EST)

I had brought this up a while back to Steve (i think)...

There is a series on Off Beat records called "the Remix Wars"

#1 - Wumpscut v Haujobb: awesome industrial dance.
#2 - Front Line Assembly v Die Krupps: again, awesome industrial dance.
#3 - 16 Volt v Hate Dept: haven't heard it yet.

I think #4 comes up or is already out? and will be:
Download v Coil

#5  could be: Orbital v Underworld, Chem Bros, or this band that is just a
symbol...something like u-ziq?? not sure though...these guys are really good
intelligent techno too.

my little $.02 :-)

any more suggestions?
jamie

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: Dwr Budr and other questions
Date: 11 Jan 1997 18:11:48 -0500 (EST)

In a message dated 97-01-11 13:59:34 EST, you write:

<< I never knew you could speak and understand Welsh ? >>

that is what it sounds like in the song.  All techno groups manipulate their
samples to sound like what they want.  I think that Orbital manipulated the
singing samples in the beginning so that it would sound like it is saying Dwr
Budr.  I showed how it sounded in the song.  Orbital also did this in Halcyon
with the OPus III samples.  Look for them in It's  a Fine Day and you can't
find them.  But if you listen the samples in Halcyon you can clearly make out
that it says on and on and on.  Point made.

Morpheus

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From: Shaun Rader <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: Orbital vs. ????
Date: 11 Jan 1997 22:40:56 -0800

How about Paul vs. Phil?  Now that would be interesting (even though
I'm not sure what this vs. means..).  Naah, keep them together.  It's
magic!

--
.    .   .  . .end of transmission. .  .   .    .


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From: The Box <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Dwr Budr and other questions
Date: 12 Jan 1997 02:18:27 -0500 (EST)

On Sat, 11 Jan 1997 [e-mail] wrote:

>
> In a message dated 97-01-11 13:59:34 EST, you write:
> that is what it sounds like in the song.  All techno groups manipulate their
> samples to sound like what they want.  I think that Orbital manipulated the
> singing samples in the beginning so that it would sound like it is saying Dwr
> Budr.  I showed how it sounded in the song.  Orbital also did this in Halcyon
> with the OPus III samples.  Look for them in It's  a Fine Day and you can't
> find them.  But if you listen the samples in Halcyon you can clearly make out
> that it says on and on and on.  Point made.

    Well, yeah. That's sort of the point.. Of course, the 'It's a Fine
Day' samples are just directly reversed, nothing much else done to
them..:)

halcyon <n> - A fabled bird, identified with the kingfisher, that was
supposed to have had the power to calm the wind and the waves during
winter solstice while it rested on the sea.
      <adj> - 1. Calm and peaceful; tranquil.
          2. Prosperous; golden.


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From: Andy <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Dwr Budr and other questions
Date: 12 Jan 1997 02:48:26 -0500 (EST)

> say Dwr Budr.  So to answer your question, I think it is like
> dwer budder

hmmm... my professor for a Geography course I took 2 years ago spoke Welsh very
well.  It's got to be one of the most fucked up sounding languages! ;)
Maybe i'll have to track him down to get the real pronunciation...

Andy
[e-mail]


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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: Dwr Budr and other questions
Date: 12 Jan 1997 03:48:57 -0500 (EST)

In a message dated 97-01-12 02:21:55 EST, you write:

<<     Well, yeah. That's sort of the point.. Of course, the 'It's a Fine
 Day' samples are just directly reversed, nothing much else done to
 them..:) >>

I'm not quite sure that they are, because there is no point in the song where
she just sings without any words.  And besides, reversing it is manipulateing
it.

Morpheus

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: Orbital vs. ????
Date: 12 Jan 1997 03:51:02 -0500 (EST)

I would love to see Orbital work with C.J. Bolland.  That would be very
interesting.  I wonder what that would sound like?  Any comments?

Morpheus

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: Orbital vs. ????
Date: 12 Jan 1997 04:27:44 -0500 (EST)

In a message dated 97-01-12 03:55:10 EST, you write:

<<
 I would love to see Orbital work with C.J. Bolland.  That would be very
 interesting.  I wonder what that would sound like?  Any comments?

 Morpheus

  >>
     C.J. Bolland does an Orbital song on the Diversions EP.  It's a remix of
Lush 3-5, One of my fav songs on there.  The whole EP rocks.

     DJRavery

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From: Chris Edens <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Orbital vs. Underworld
Date: 12 Jan 1997 03:44:33 -0800

[e-mail] wrote:
>
> I would love to see Orbital work with C.J. Bolland.  That would be very
> interesting.  I wonder what that would sound like?  Any comments?
>
> Morpheus
Orbital and Underworld, now THAT would be SOMETHING incredible!

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From: "Benjamin A. Woznicki" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Orbital Virgin!
Date: 10 Jan 1997 17:26:41 -0500

[e-mail] wrote:
>
> I remember Digger (yes...Mr Chain Mail himself!) was asking about doing a
> compilation tape for a person who had never heard any Orbital.
>
> Ive just introduced two people (Orbital Virgins ) at work to some Orbital
> and this comprised of sorting a tape of stuff for them...
>
> Some might be interested to what i stuck on the tape...here it is...
>
> SideA - All Studio Stuff
>
> Belfast (1991)
> Kinetic (1992)
> Dwr Budr (1996)
> Forever (1994)
> Out There Somewhere (Part 2) (1996)
> Quality Seconds (1994)
>
> SideB - Live and ISDN broadcasts
>
> Satan (Live New York) (1996)
> Impact (Live Chelmsford) (1996)
> Sad But New (ISDN Radio 1 Broadcast - complete with John Major speech)
> (1995)
> Chime (Live at Norwich) (Complete with Madonna sample (Crime)) (1992)
> Halcyon (Live at Boston (Complete with BJ and Belinda Sample) (1996)
> P.E.T.R.O.L (Live New Years Eve Ally Pally) (1996/1997)
>
> Wonder what they will think....
>
> Steve LOOPZ Price.

Shit, all I know is I want a copy. :)



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From: shai drori <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Orbital Virgin!
Date: 12 Jan 1997 16:19:54 +0200

Seamus (James) Swift wrote:
>
> ----------
> > From: Easley Jerry W <[e-mail]>
> > To: [e-mail]
> > Cc: [e-mail]
> > Subject: re:Orbital Virgin!
> > Date: Friday, January 10, 1997 2:32 PM
> >
> > HOW DO YOU GET OFF THIS LIST???????
>
> To get off this list send a mail message to [e-mail] with the
> following line in the body of the message.
>
> unsubscribe orbital [e-mail]
>
> Hope this helps !
thank you for the trouble...
shaike

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: re:Re: Images plus a little Sugarcubes
Date: 12 Jan 1997 15:30:16 GMT

Sarcy....or geniune ?

Mmmmm....i wonder! ;)

Steve

----------------------[Reply - Original Message]----------------------

Sent by:[e-mail]
 In a message dated 97-01-11 14:00:02 EST, you write:

<< 808 State have a few albums (over 4) and a lot of Eps...they have been
 going a long time. If need be ill dig out some info....

 Steve >>
Steve, bro, you do way too much work for the members of this list!  Not
that
we don't appreciate it...maybe we should send you a plaque or something

=====================================================================

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: re:Re: Dwr Budr and other questions
Date: 12 Jan 1997 15:33:58 GMT


> Orbital also did this in Halcyon
>with the OPus III samples.  Look for them in It's  a Fine Day and you
>can't find them.  But if you listen the samples in Halcyon you can
>clearly make out that it says on and on and on.  Point made.

ermmm....on and on and on....i dont think so... ;)
The original of Halcyon didnt have the words on and on and on in the title
let alone in the track.

Can i just point out that the Halcyon samples are also reversed...

I want the same drugs u have got... ;)

Cheers

STeve

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: re:Orbital vs ???
Date: 12 Jan 1997 15:36:58 GMT

Very tempting...

Orbital vs bjork (which was mentioning a few weeks back)
Orbital vs PWEI (which would be different)
Orbital vs Pavarotti (which would be taking the piss)

Steve

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: re:May be of Interest ?
Date: 12 Jan 1997 15:47:25 GMT

Ermmm....just tried this....aint there ?

ermm...anyone ?

Steve

----------------------[Reply - Original Message]----------------------

Sent by:"Seamus (James) Swift" <[e-mail]>
 Here is something I knocked up with a sample from Snivilisation and frm a
track called "Mad Rush" by Philip Glass (1937).

http://www.griffin.co.uk/whois/sample.htm

.............................................................
            mailto:[e-mail]
 http://www.griffin.co.uk/users/whois

Seamus Swift

News Today : "Suicidal twin kills sister by mistake!"

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From: "Randall L. Wolf" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: Orbital vs.
Date: 12 Jan 1997 11:52:40 -0500

Orbital vs. Jon Hassel
Orbital vs. Coil
Orbital vs. Debbie Gibson vs. Bon Jovi (oops! been done...)

__________

[e-mail]

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From: "Randall L. Wolf" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: re:May be of Interest ?
Date: 12 Jan 1997 11:54:15 -0500

No go for me, either.

Too bad, I was very interested.

----------
> From: [e-mail]
> To: [e-mail]
> Subject: re:May be of Interest ?
> Date: Sunday, January 12, 1997 10:47 AM
>
> Ermmm....just tried this....aint there ?
>
> ermm...anyone ?
>
> Steve
>
> ----------------------[Reply - Original Message]----------------------
>
> Sent by:"Seamus (James) Swift" <[e-mail]>
>  Here is something I knocked up with a sample from Snivilisation and frm
a
> track called "Mad Rush" by Philip Glass (1937).
>
> http://www.griffin.co.uk/whois/sample.htm
>
> .............................................................
>             mailto:[e-mail]
>  http://www.griffin.co.uk/users/whois
>
> Seamus Swift
>
> News Today : "Suicidal twin kills sister by mistake!"
>
> =====================================================================

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: Orbital vs. ????
Date: 12 Jan 1997 14:13:10 -0500 (EST)

In a message dated 97-01-12 04:31:07 EST, you write:

<<
  I would love to see Orbital work with C.J. Bolland.  That would be very
  interesting.  I wonder what that would sound like?  Any comments?
   >>
it would be pretty cool!

How about Orbital and Kraftwerk??

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: Orbital vs. Underworld
Date: 12 Jan 1997 20:05:57 GMT


>Orbital and Underworld, now THAT would be SOMETHING incredible!

underworld, nahhh, they are really overated IMHO, I like Rowla a lot
but everything else is just...boring.
  _________________  ______  ___________   ___
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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: Orbital vs. ????
Date: 12 Jan 1997 20:05:51 GMT


>I would love to see Orbital work with C.J. Bolland.  That would be very
>interesting.  I wonder what that would sound like?  Any comments?

absolutely, that would be fantastic, especially if CJ was to return to
his hard techno roots, a combination of Orbital's warped synths and
CJs slammin' beats would be truly awesome.
Now CJs going into more "listening music" as he puts it, some of which
sounds quite Orbital-esque. I don't know, his music sounds
more...electronic than Orbital's, a guy I know described CJs stuff as
"cold computers at high speed" which I think is a good description.

I was going to post a message saying Orbital vs. CJ but someone's
already done it. Imagine what it would sound like live? I heard CJs
Mantra live and it is just unbelievable.
  _________________  ______  ___________   ___
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    |   |  |        |       |       |\_     _/
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                             =20
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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: Orbital Virgin!
Date: 12 Jan 1997 20:05:46 GMT


>> Wonder what they will think....

a lot...

>Shit, all I know is I want a copy. :)

yeah, so do I, there's a couple on there I would really like to
hear...

take it easy
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From: The Box <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Dwr Budr and other questions
Date: 12 Jan 1997 16:14:56 -0500 (EST)

On Sun, 12 Jan 1997 [e-mail] wrote:

> <<     Well, yeah. That's sort of the point.. Of course, the 'It's a Fine
>  Day' samples are just directly reversed, nothing much else done to
>  them..:) >>
>
> I'm not quite sure that they are, because there is no point in the song where
> she just sings without any words.  And besides, reversing it is manipulateing
> it.

    That's true.. I think it's sampled from the original tracks, and
not off the CD.  The sample at the beginning of Halcyon that repeats for a
minute or so is the exact reverse of the bit at the beginning of It's a
fine day.


halcyon <n> - A fabled bird, identified with the kingfisher, that was
supposed to have had the power to calm the wind and the waves during
winter solstice while it rested on the sea.
      <adj> - 1. Calm and peaceful; tranquil.
          2. Prosperous; golden.


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From: Brian Davis <[e-mail]>
Subject: orbital remix
Date: 12 Jan 1997 15:33:22 -0600

hey all....just thought y'all might be interested to know that orbital
appear on the shamen's new remix CD coming out soon....they remix
"hear me".....don't know if it's worth a hoot but....(you know the
saying....you can't polish a turd.....;-)

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From: Hermespan <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Orbital vs. Underworld
Date: 12 Jan 1997 21:31:46 +0000

>>Orbital and Underworld, now THAT would be SOMETHING incredible!
>
>underworld, nahhh, they are really overated IMHO, I like Rowla a lot
>but everything else is just...boring.



aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaargh underworld are the best digital double act i have
ever heard how can you say they're boring the long strung out loose track
are like that coz thats what they're sposed to be like
I aint heard to much CJ bolland i got that sugar ais sweeter single a bit
ago and once the novelty wears off thats a bit boring could someone please
point me in the way of a some good CJ material please?

-----Elvis, Fresh meat and a little Whipped Cream--------



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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: atari teenage riot
Date: 12 Jan 1997 14:00:41 -0800

   Okay, while someone else is also still thinking about this, I'll throw
in my opinion.  I'm not even gonna address whether or not their music is
good, as that is a personal thing.  I just think it's rather silly to say
that MTV is idiots for playing one tune out of an hour's worth that you
didn't like.  I've been hearing about the band for a while, and there are
no stations that play electronic music out here, excepting the afterhours
thing once a week on kroq, which mostly sticks to chill-out and more
dancefloor stuff, with Prodigy being the hardest they play.  So if you'd
only heard about the band, and never had a chance to hear them, it's pretty
good that MTV played them once so you know that you dislike their stuff.
That little five monutes of saying "god!  the video could at least have
been in color!" means you saved $12 on the cd, or more if it's still just
on import.  And anyway, I had gotten this weird idea that dance/electronic
culture was about experimentation and breaking new ground, but maybe that's
changing now that big monetary powers like MTV are getting invloved.  But
basically, I just thought that it was rather reactionary to say "MTV sucks
for starting to play stuff beyond the same techno vids.... see, their
program's already going downhill" instead of appreciating the fact that
you've been introduced to a new band and now know that you think they're
shit.  And dance/e;lectroic culture is one of the last bastions of open
minds, and it doesn't really need people to be so reactionary.  Okay, sorry
abouthis, I just had to get it off my chest... and it's nothing personal,
I'm just worried that now that the music and scene are starting to get
recognised, the newbies are going to bring the "cooler than thou" mentality
into it, and the original people are going to get reactionary and elitist
themselves.  In a word, please just keep an open mind!
thanks for hearing me out,
Ryan



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From: "Vector Audax" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Orbital vs. ????
Date: 12 Jan 1997 15:54:16 -0600

They already have worked with C.J. Bolland (Lush 3-5 on Diversions) :P
The result is the hyper sound of lush combined with C.J.'s familiar high
energy touch.  Not my favorite Lush remix, but its shaggable.

Vector Audax

----------
> From: [e-mail]
> To: [e-mail]
> Subject: Re: Orbital vs. ????
> Date: January 12, 1997 2:51 AM
>
> I would love to see Orbital work with C.J. Bolland.  That would be very
> interesting.  I wonder what that would sound like?  Any comments?
>
> Morpheus

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From: "Vector Audax" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Orbital vs. Underworld
Date: 12 Jan 1997 15:56:50 -0600

Isn't Lush 3-3 remixed by Underworld, or is it just the title of the remix?
Hmmmm

Vector Audax

----------
> From: Chris Edens <[e-mail]>
> To: [e-mail]
> Subject: Re: Orbital vs. Underworld
> Date: January 12, 1997 5:44 AM
>
> [e-mail] wrote:
> >
> > I would love to see Orbital work with C.J. Bolland.  That would be very
> > interesting.  I wonder what that would sound like?  Any comments?
> >
> > Morpheus
> Orbital and Underworld, now THAT would be SOMETHING incredible!

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From: "Anthony Agee" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Orbital vs. ????
Date: 12 Jan 1997 16:48:23 -0600

> From: Shad Clark <[e-mail]>
> To: [e-mail]
> Subject: Re: Orbital vs. ????
> Date: Sunday, December 08, 1996 2:40 AM
>
> I'd LOVE for Orbital to work with Portishead. They could release the
result
> under Portibal.
>     Just a thought...

Portishead is highly overrated.  I'd much rather see Orbital work with
Bjork (or have they already?).


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From: "Anthony Agee" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Endtroducing Tricky
Date: 12 Jan 1997 17:00:19 -0600

Hey, I went to a store yesterday and I listened to Tricky's "Pre-Millenium
Tension" CD and quite honestly, I thought it was only so-so.  The guy
behind the counter told me that Tricky was playing in Kansas City on the
20th and I was completely shocked.  He's playing in the same place where
Autechre played last summer....you can fit *maybe* 200 people in there.  I
was wondering:  Is Tricky worth seeing live even if you're not a big fan?
I really like two of his songs...and for $9 you can't go wrong....


Anyway, I also listened to DJ Shadow's "Endtroducing" which I thought was
totally superior and I bought it instead of Tricky's CD.  DJ Shadow has
some REALLY great drums on this piece.

While at the store I read the newest Rolling Stone magazine which gave
awards to the top 3 electronic musicians for 1996.  They were 1)Tricky,
2)Moby and 3)LTJ Bukem.  This is an absolute travesty.  Moby sucks, plain
and simple.  He's nearly as outdated as 2Unlimited.  As I said before,
Tricky is pretty cool but not THE best electronic musician around in my
opinion.  LTJ Bukem is great and probably deserves 3rd place.  Of course, I
want to strangle somebody for leaving out In Sides....

If those fuc*ing morons at Rolling Stones ever had the time to put down
their shitty 60's-70's rock and listen to real pioneering music they'd
perhaps give awards to those who really deserve it.  Marilyn Manson as
artist of the year?  Jesus CHRIST.  I'm nearly embarassed to be a member of
the same species as those rock-journalists.


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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: Orbital vs. Underworld
Date: 12 Jan 1997 23:43:52 GMT


>aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaargh underworld are the best digital double act i =
have
>ever heard how can you say they're boring the long strung out loose =
track
>are like that coz thats what they're sposed to be like

well, each to his own. I don't like them, you do...fine.

>I aint heard to much CJ bolland i got that sugar ais sweeter single a =
bit
>ago and once the novelty wears off thats a bit boring could someone =
please
>point me in the way of a some good CJ material please?

I would be delighted. Check out the album that Sugar... comes from,
you will find that it is entirely different than the single...all the
rest of the album is a lot better.
It's called "The Analogue Theatre" and is on Internal records.
Other CJ Bolland albums are Electronic Highway (which, though released
in 1995 is really a compilation of stuff throughout his musical
career) and The 4th Sign (1992) both on R&S records.

take it easy
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From: "Michael A. Polisky" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Endtroducing Tricky
Date: 12 Jan 1997 20:46:52 -0500


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I saw Tricky in D.C. last week. I thought it was a weak show. 95% of the
show Tricky had his back to the audience, the stage was completely dark,
and a lot of the time he wasnt even on stage.
Now the music was good, but I just wish I had a couch to lay down on
during the show. I think tickets were $12, but I got in free so I really
shouldnt complain.
mike!
[e-mail]

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<DT>Now the music was good, but I just wish I had a couch to lay down on
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From: Brian Davis <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Orbital vs. ????
Date: 12 Jan 1997 20:14:01 -0600

Anthony Agee wrote:
>
> > From: Shad Clark <[e-mail]>
> > To: [e-mail]
> > Subject: Re: Orbital vs. ????
> > Date: Sunday, December 08, 1996 2:40 AM
> >
> > I'd LOVE for Orbital to work with Portishead. They could release the
> result
> > under Portibal.
> >       Just a thought...
>
> Portishead is highly overrated.  I'd much rather see Orbital work with
> Bjork (or have they already?).
Bjork is extremely, highly, out-of-this worldly overrated.  how 'bout
orbital and Mellisa Ethridge (or have they already?).

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From: Brian Davis <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Endtroducing Tricky
Date: 12 Jan 1997 20:18:14 -0600

Anthony Agee wrote:

>
> If those fuc*ing morons at Rolling Stones .....

did you honestly expect any different?
.....try reading URB or Jockey Slut to get more of the real scoop.....

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: Orbital vs. ????
Date: 13 Jan 1997 02:05:13 -0500 (EST)

In a message dated 97-01-12 04:31:07 EST, you write:

<<      C.J. Bolland does an Orbital song on the Diversions EP.  It's a remix
of
 Lush 3-5, One of my fav songs on there.  The whole EP rocks.

      DJRavery >>

I can't believe I never noticed that before.  That is my fav on that CD too.
 Thanx for pointing that out.

Morpheus

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: Dwr Budr and other questions
Date: 13 Jan 1997 02:07:18 -0500 (EST)

In a message dated 97-01-12 10:36:08 EST, you write:

<< ermmm....on and on and on....i dont think so... ;)
 The original of Halcyon didnt have the words on and on and on in the title
 let alone in the track.

 Can i just point out that the Halcyon samples are also reversed...

 I want the same drugs u have got... ;)
  >>

I was talking about Halcyon+On+On.  I thought you would figure it out.

Morpheus

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: Orbital vs. Underworld
Date: 13 Jan 1997 02:11:36 -0500 (EST)

In a message dated 97-01-12 16:54:26 EST, you write:

<< aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaargh underworld are the best digital double act i have
 ever heard how can you say they're boring the long strung out loose track
 are like that coz thats what they're sposed to be like
 I aint heard to much CJ bolland i got that sugar ais sweeter single a bit
 ago and once the novelty wears off thats a bit boring could someone please
 point me in the way of a some good CJ material please? >>

Underworld's songs are way too repeatative.  They get old after the first
minute.
Example: Born Slippy
The best Underworld song is Cowgirl

Morpheus

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: Orbital vs. ????
Date: 13 Jan 1997 02:16:02 -0500 (EST)

Morpheus wrote:
>I would love to see Orbital work with C.J. Bolland.  That would be very
>interesting.  I wonder what that would sound like?  Any comments?
>
I agree.  Lush 3-5 from Diversions is the best track on the CD.  It takes P&P's
genius to a different level and is absolutely memerizing.  What these three
minds could create while working together staggers the imagination.

  - Lemurboy

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: re:May be of Interest ?
Date: 13 Jan 1997 02:34:25 -0500 (EST)

hmmm... I may be reaching with these, but...
    Orbital vs. SEAL - a bit iffy, but Seal has some great as well as
                diversified talent.
    Orbital vs. the CURE - I don't think there's anything Fat Fat Bob
                couldn't do well.
    Orbital vs. Peter Gabriel - Gabriel's study and utilization of rythms
                would be unbelievable in synchronicity with
                P&P's.

If nothing else, any one of these would be interesting because of the genre
combinations.

    - Lemurboy

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From: "Yan" <[e-mail]>
Subject: wrong address for that Sniv sample
Date: 13 Jan 1997 09:30:16 +0000

The address for that Sniv/Glass sample is :

http://www.griffin.co.uk/users/whois/sample.htm
Ian Silvester,              "He dreams.. while he's not sleeping"
Research Associate.                             - The Chameleons

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From: [e-mail] (Gareth Rudolf)
Subject: Re:orbital remix
Date: 13 Jan 1997 09:44:05 +0000

Thought you might like to know this but Orbital have already remixed a Shamen
track (from their first 'dance' album: En-Tact) look for the 'Orbital Reprise'.

I can't remember the original's name at the moment, more tomorrow if anyone's
interested (after I check my record collection).

____________________Reply Separator____________________
Author: Brian Davis <[e-mail]>

hey all....just thought y'all might be interested to know that orbital
appear on the shamen's new remix CD coming out soon....they remix
"hear me".....don't know if it's worth a hoot but....(you know the
saying....you can't polish a turd.....;-)

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re[2]: Some questions...
Date: 13 Jan 1997 09:33:12 -0500

     Whoah there a minute - Satan isn't on my Green album CD!  What's going
     on here???


______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________
Author:  Chris Herz <[e-mail]> at Internet2


>I'm pretty new at this list, as well as a new orbital fan, anyhow, which
>album
>contains that Satan song they keep playing live?
>
>                                                      Roger C

theres supposably remixes of Satan around, but i cant find them... the tune
is on "the green album" AKA: yellow in the US... not sure what it is in S.
Amer.

the play list is:

Belfast
The Moebius
Speed Freak (moby remix)  <-- didnt know moby did this... hmmmmmm...
Fahrenhiet 3d3
Desert Storm
Oolaa
Chime
Satan
Choice
Midnight


hope that helps a weee bit.... later



        -Chris Herz




[e-mail]

http://www.interwerks.com               http://www.chs.lane.edu/~chrish



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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re[2]: Orbital vs. ????
Date: 13 Jan 1997 09:55:46 -0500

     Orbital and Autechre .....
     Boy would I love to hear THAT combination!

     Orbital and ME!!!
     Who needs Alison Goldfrapp when they can have me?!!?!? heh heh

     Sandy



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From: Jon Green <[e-mail]>
Subject: re: Resources, vocals, GC, idm
Date: 13 Jan 1997 11:52:08 +0000

At 13:02 10/01/97 -0500, [e-mail] wrote:

>Didn't everyone else think the Dwr Budr vocals were Alison Goldfrapp?
I certainly did, as the mailshot for The Box and In Sides said that vocals
on both were from 'the mysterious Aunty', but the Box CD said vocals by
Alison Goldfrapp, hence I assume that Aunty=Alison. And the In Sides credits
said 'vocals by Aunty', so I assumed that included 'Dwr Budr', hence assumed
that the vocals on Dwr WERE by Alison.

>It's not exactly like it's massively different from the stuff on Brown or Sniv.
>that's credited.
Eh? On Brown? I don't remember any credits.

> (Maybe the concealment on In Sides was necessary because of
>her work with Tricky?)

I really like the 'ambient' version of 'Pumpkin', and The Alex Reece remix
of 'Brand new you're retro' on the CD is great too.
>
>Reviving briefly the GC thread, I bought this last week too, didn't like it,
>but listened to it again and it's ok (especially 'the deep'). [The mixes
>appear to be on the 2x12" not the CD, Jon.]

Yeah, I thought as much. I'm not a DJ, so I'd much prefer to buy CDs not
12"s, and it really pisses me off that thay leave half the mixes off the CD.
I know they've got chart rules to work round, but does anybody really think
that GC are gonna go top 40??
OK that's the end of my little rant, I feel better now.

Jon


Jon Green: [e-mail]
"The less effort one puts in, the greater
satisfaction one gains from a good result"



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From: Jon Green <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Dwr Budr and other questions
Date: 13 Jan 1997 12:05:57 +0000

At 03:48 12/01/97 -0500, [e-mail] wrote:
>In a message dated 97-01-12 02:21:55 EST, you write:
>
><<     Well, yeah. That's sort of the point.. Of course, the 'It's a Fine
> Day' samples are just directly reversed, nothing much else done to
> them..:) >>
>
>I'm not quite sure that they are, because there is no point in the song where
>she just sings without any words.  And besides, reversing it is manipulateing
>it.
>
>Morpheus
>
>
I am sure they sampled the 'da da da da dah dee dah da dah ' bit right off
the start, which, as far as I'm concerned, doesn't constitute words.


Jon Green: [e-mail]
"The less effort one puts in, the greater
satisfaction one gains from a good result"



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From: Jon Green <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Orbital vs. Underworld
Date: 13 Jan 1997 12:17:40 +0000

At 02:11 13/01/97 -0500, [e-mail] wrote:

>Underworld's songs are way too repeatative.  They get old after the first
>minute.
>Example: Born Slippy
>The best Underworld song is Cowgirl
>
>Morpheus

Well I find it difficult to find fault withmost of their material, but then
I like really repetitive tracks, so I suppose I would. I can see how you
would think the '215 miles'  or 'Thing in a book' versions of Dark and Long
too repetitive.
Which Born Slippy do you mean? I would suppose you mean Born Slippy.NUXX,
most people do when they say "Born slippy". The other mixes off the original
ep ('Born Slippy' and 'Born Slippy.TELEMATIC' are better).
My favourite Underworld track is eithe rthe Lushh 3-3 mix, or the 'Spoon
Deep' mix of Dark and Long (18 minutes of heaven).

Jon


Jon Green: [e-mail]
"The less effort one puts in, the greater
satisfaction one gains from a good result"



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From: [e-mail]
Subject: re: orbital/tricky, steel cube idolatry
Date: 13 Jan 1997 07:20:42 -0500 (EST)

The Orbital/Tricky connection I was referring to on Friday was that Alison
Goldfrapp (Auntie) did the vocals on one of the tracks on Maxinequay (track 4
I believe) and has also worked extensively with Orbital (lush 3, lots of bits
from Sniv, Dwr Budr) and (perhaps?) only had her identity concealed on the
latter because of her work with Tricky.

Steel Cube Idolatry comes from a comment by a Melody Maker reviewer on an
Orbital live show in the early '90s: the worship of the faceless boxes that
generate the music, iirc. Check out
http://members.aol.com/orbital101/ovm.html for the review I found this out
from. (Requests to email it to people are fine too).

That [swearword of choice] Mark Goodier got 'The Orbital's name wrong again
last night. I'll have to email the [different swearword] and see if I can fix
him. After all, they're not in the charts that often.

Paul Mison
[e-mail]
http://members.aol.com/pmison/

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From: Jon Green <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: orbital remix
Date: 13 Jan 1997 12:21:55 +0000

At 15:33 12/01/97 -0600, Brian Davis wrote:
>hey all....just thought y'all might be interested to know that orbital
>appear on the shamen's new remix CD coming out soon....they remix
>"hear me".....don't know if it's worth a hoot but....(you know the
>saying....you can't polish a turd.....;-)
>
>
That track is off the original En-tact CD from 1990, I think it's more of a
collaboration than a remix. Unless it's a new mix.
The track is rather good. Isn't it amazing how Orbital are now even better
than thay were then, but the Shamen...... I'll leave you to finish that
sentence yourselves.

Jon


Jon Green: [e-mail]
"The less effort one puts in, the greater
satisfaction one gains from a good result"



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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: Re[2]: Some questions...
Date: 13 Jan 1997 07:28:10 -0500 (EST)

In a message dated 13/01/97  10:56:32, you write:

"Whoah there a minute - Satan isn't on my Green album CD!  What's going
      on here???"

You've probably got the UK Green album. The US Green album, listed below, is
a completely different beast- they even have different colour covers. I
believe the UK one came first, and the US one is bits of UK Green plus
Mutations (eg the Moby Speed Freak mix, Farenheit 3D3). The UK Green has live
versions of Midnight and Chime, not the studio versions. Certainly the main
three unofficial discographies (Lazlo's, Steve's and my own) should clarify
things a bit. Not sure about the official site, though.

Maybe it's time for an FAQ with these URL's and some clarification on the
UK/US release differences? Any volunteers to help write it? Or don't we need
one after all?

Paul Mison.
[e-mail]
http://members.aol.com/pmison/

">I'm pretty new at this list, as well as a new orbital fan, anyhow, which
 >album contains that Satan song they keep playing live?
 >
 >                                                      Roger C

 theres supposably remixes of Satan around, but i cant find them... the tune
 is on "the green album" AKA: yellow in the US... not sure what it is in S.
 Amer.

 the play list is:

 Belfast
 The Moebius
 Speed Freak (moby remix)  <-- didnt know moby did this... hmmmmmm...
 Fahrenhiet 3d3
 Desert Storm
 Oolaa
 Chime
 Satan
 Choice
 Midnight

 hope that helps a weee bit.... later
              -Chris Herz

 [e-mail]

 http://www.interwerks.com               http://www.chs.lane.edu/~chrish"

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From: Jon Green <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Orbital vs. ????
Date: 13 Jan 1997 12:25:41 +0000

At 16:48 12/01/97 -0600, Anthony Agee wrote:

>Portishead is highly overrated.  I'd much rather see Orbital work with
>Bjork (or have they already?).

I wouldn't go that far, I loved the album at first, but it bugs me that
Glory Box was the track that kind of got them noticed when it's the least
impressive track on the album. Mind you, some have said that about Chime.... :-)

Jon


Jon Green: [e-mail]
"The less effort one puts in, the greater
satisfaction one gains from a good result"



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From: Jon Green <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Endtroducing Tricky
Date: 13 Jan 1997 12:33:25 +0000

At 17:00 12/01/97 -0600, Anthony Agee wrote:

>Anyway, I also listened to DJ Shadow's "Endtroducing" which I thought was
>totally superior and I bought it instead of Tricky's CD.  DJ Shadow has
>some REALLY great drums on this piece.

Yep, the album is great. Also check out 'Lost and Found' from 1994 (I think
it was '94. Sounds like ages ago, but feels like last week)
>
>While at the store I read the newest Rolling Stone magazine which gave
>awards to the top 3 electronic musicians for 1996.  They were 1)Tricky,
>2)Moby and 3)LTJ Bukem.  This is an absolute travesty.  Moby sucks, plain
>and simple.  He's nearly as outdated as 2Unlimited.  As I said before,
>Tricky is pretty cool but not THE best electronic musician around in my
>opinion.  LTJ Bukem is great and probably deserves 3rd place.  Of course, I
>want to strangle somebody for leaving out In Sides....

Moby hasn't made electronic music for a while, has he? which makes their
categorisation a bit out of date. I'd tend not to class Tricky as
'electronic', his sounds are too organic (real guitars for  god sake!!!).
Bukem is alright, but I prefer PFM's style (their remix of JMJ & Richie
(Free la funk) and Saint Etienne (The Sea)are great, and their own 'One and
only' blew me away), and I like Photek's sounds too.
>
>If those fuc*ing morons at Rolling Stones ever had the time to put down
>their shitty 60's-70's rock and listen to real pioneering music they'd
>perhaps give awards to those who really deserve it.  Marilyn Manson as
>artist of the year?  Jesus CHRIST.  I'm nearly embarassed to be a member of
>the same species as those rock-journalists.

Aren't you used to it yet?


JOn


Jon Green: [e-mail]
"The less effort one puts in, the greater
satisfaction one gains from a good result"



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From: Jon Green <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Re[2]: Some questions...
Date: 13 Jan 1997 12:44:07 +0000

At 09:33 13/01/97 -0500, [e-mail] wrote:
>     Whoah there a minute - Satan isn't on my Green album CD!  What's going
>     on here???
>

You've got the UK release, I'd expect. It's not got Choice or Moby remix of
Speed Freak (original instead), has Farenheit 303 (not 3D3), and one or two
other different tracks. And the uncredited last track is called 'I think
it's disgusting'.
And I still reckon the sleeve's more yellow than green....

Jon


Jon Green: [e-mail]
"The less effort one puts in, the greater
satisfaction one gains from a good result"



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From: [e-mail] (StarPango)
Subject: Off Subject....Jan. 31st
Date: 13 Jan 1997 08:30:41 -0500

Insert here for just a bit.......

January 31st....in the theatres for those of us who enjoyed star wars the
first time.....there will be Star Wars: The Special Edition on the big
screen.  And for anyone that follows this stuff, you know why they are
putting this out.....this summer FOX is going to start releasing the Clone
Wars Trilogy out on the big screen :)...

Alright back to Orbital chat :P

StarPango

[e-mail]
.....IRC - us.undernet.org@#orbital....StarPango



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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re[4]: Some questions...
Date: 13 Jan 1997 13:40:48 -0500


>You've got the UK release, I'd expect. It's not got Choice or Moby remix
>of Speed Freak (original instead), has Farenheit 303 (not 3D3), and one or
>two other different tracks. And the uncredited last track is called 'I
>think it's disgusting'.

     Hmm... this means I'm going to have to go get it ordered, doesn't it?
     Is it worth getting for the different versions of Fahrenheit * Speed
     Freak?  & what's the last track like?

     Sandy



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From: [e-mail]
Subject: FAQ...
Date: 13 Jan 1997 13:37:31 -0500



>Maybe it's time for an FAQ with these URL's and some clarification on the
>UK/US release differences? Any volunteers to help write it? Or don't we need
>one after all?

     Oh we need one.......!

     Could answer the likes of:

     1. Discography (US & UK) (Yep - it's on Loopz & more, but they will
     ask again...and again...)
     2. Samples (details of any known ones, written in a special code which
     only we can decipher, to keep evil royalty-grabbers at bay)
     3. Origins of track titles.
     4. Collaborators/remixers/vocalists...
     5. How do I get off this list etc... ;)
     6. Upcoming tour dates
     7. Who's going to copy live blah blah for me please please...
     8. Best web pages.
     9. The brother's influences.
     10.What're they up to now?
     blah
     blah
     etc...
     ..

     OK - now who wants to write the damn thing?!

     Sandy




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From: [e-mail] (Quinone)
Subject: a meager request
Date: 13 Jan 1997 09:08:00 -0600 (CST)

        Ok, so this is going to sound a bit strange, and I find it somewhat
hard to ask, but does any one know if there is a really good sample library
out that that orbital uses?  Granted, I don't know how many of you are
novice composers like myself, but I'm going to try (don't laugh yet), try as
hard as I can to try to emulate at least a small form the excellent
combinations that I've heard on their CD's.
        I know most likely that most of the samples are simply ripped from
other EP's and great music of the past, but there might just be a sample CD
or somethign that someone knows that they have heard a few track of used on
their recordings. I have just recently gotten a sampler addition to my
synth, and have been looking forward to using it to the maximum potential
        Again, no fair poking fun ;) I'm just trying this, in hopes that
someday I can make tracks as well planned and moving as those I've heard;
oh, also I didn't want this to sound like I'm trying to kiss ass, it's
merely just an honest request.

Thanks for reading this far and the day's worth of letters  I've received
have been worthwhile,

        Eric Zavesky


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From: Sproston Green <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Re[4]: Some questions...
Date: 08 Jan 1997 10:36:57 -0500

At 01:40 PM 1/13/97 -0500, [e-mail] wrote:
>
>>You've got the UK release, I'd expect. It's not got Choice or Moby remix
>>of Speed Freak (original instead), has Farenheit 303 (not 3D3), and one or
>>two other different tracks. And the uncredited last track is called 'I
>>think it's disgusting'.
>
>     Hmm... this means I'm going to have to go get it ordered, doesn't it?
>     Is it worth getting for the different versions of Fahrenheit * Speed
>     Freak?  & what's the last track like?
>

Last track is nothing to listen to really (like a min.) but its worth picking
up for steel cube idolatry and high rise.  Plus i prefer the non-mobified
speed freak (except for that screeching at the end).  In addition, there are
subtle differences between many of the songs that the UK and US green
release have in common.  It is *definitely* worth getting both the US and
UK release of this album IMO.

Orbital out..

S p r o s t o n  G r e e n
   [e-mail]
      http://www.tiac.net/users/jrobin/


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From: Fraser Macdonald <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: a meager request
Date: 13 Jan 1997 15:43:29 +0000

Quinone wrote:
>
>         Ok, so this is going to sound a bit strange, and I find it somewhat
> hard to ask, but does any one know if there is a really good sample library
> out that that orbital uses?  Granted, I don't know how many of you are
> novice composers like myself, but I'm going to try (don't laugh yet), try as
> hard as I can to try to emulate at least a small form the excellent
> combinations that I've heard on their CD's.
>         I know most likely that most of the samples are simply ripped from
> other EP's and great music of the past, but there might just be a sample CD
> or somethign that someone knows that they have heard a few track of used on
> their recordings. I have just recently gotten a sampler addition to my
> synth, and have been looking forward to using it to the maximum potential
>         Again, no fair poking fun ;) I'm just trying this, in hopes that
> someday I can make tracks as well planned and moving as those I've heard;
> oh, also I didn't want this to sound like I'm trying to kiss ass, it's
> merely just an honest request.

I take it by sample CDs you mean the stuff like you get from
Time+Space, or whoever. If that's the case, then the thing about
Orbital is that they use their imagination and get sounds from
unlikely places, instead of just relying on stuff from sample CDs
which everyone else has. For example, on Walk Now (Brown), there's
the sound of an Australian pedestrian crossing. How many other
records can you think of that have that on it?

This is just my opinion, but a sampler can be one of the best
creative tools, or it can be the worst. It's good if you can find
unusual things to sample, change them to make a unique sound. It's
bad if all you do is use really cheesy, obvious samples.

I'm not trying to put you off or anything, but try and use
your imagination. Sample loads of different, non-obvious stuff
and manipulate it in lots of different ways to find truly original
sounds.

Good luck,

Fraser

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From: [e-mail] ( John Moylan)
Subject: Re: a meager request
Date: 13 Jan 1997 17:04:57 GMT

Imagination.

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From: ERLEND <[e-mail]>
Subject: I NEED SOME SERIOUS HELP !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Date: 13 Jan 1997 17:52:40 -0800

Hi!
I'm quite new at this list and i hope this gets through!!:

I'm trying to  complete my collection of the orbital albums (not
singles)
but i dont know which I don't have.
I did buy all the cd's at my local cd dealer but i only have the
following:
Untitled(yellow) cover says:
                               ORBITAL
                                 CD
(does this one have any name??)
Snivilisation
Diversions
Insides (2 cd's)

So can someone tell me the names of the orbital cd's not
listed??
Thanx                  TOBY

http://home.sn.no/~trerikse

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From: [e-mail] ( John Moylan)
Subject: Re: orbital Digest V2 #118
Date: 13 Jan 1997 17:10:06 GMT


but the longer muzik is around the more commercial it is becoming.

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From: Daniel Kasaj <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: I NEED SOME SERIOUS HELP !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Date: 13 Jan 1997 18:39:08 +0100 (MET)

Toby wrote:

>I'm trying to  complete my collection of the orbital albums (not
>singles)
>but i dont know which I don't have.

>----------------------------------------------------------------
>Untitled(yellow) cover says:
>----------------------------------------------------------------
>Snivilisation
>----------------------------------------------------------------
>Diversions
>----------------------------------------------------------------
>Insides (2 cd's)
>----------------------------------------------------------------

Well, DIVERSIONS isn't an album. Orbital has 4 albums out by now,
and those are Untitled I (yellow or green) , Untitled II (brown)
, Snivilisation and In Sides.
The list of singles is wwwwaaaaaaaay too long :-)

--

   Daniel Kasaj - [e-mail]    URL: http://fly.cc.fer.hr/~leqash
  Home : Borovje 8, Zagreb, CROATIA                    phone - [phone]

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: re:noyclaH
Date: 13 Jan 1997 17:56:39 GMT


Loopz wrote
<< ermmm....on and on and on....i dont think so... ;)
>> The original of Halcyon didnt have the words on and on and on in the
>>title let alone in the track.
>> Can i just point out that the Halcyon samples are also reversed...
>> I want the same drugs u have got... ;)


>I was talking about Halcyon+On+On.  I thought you would figure it out.

Ahem...calm down ;)
No version of Halcyon has valid words in it...apart from the Live BJ/BC
versions...desrever selpmas

:)

Steve LOOPZ Price

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: re:FAQ...
Date: 13 Jan 1997 18:03:48 GMT

im game....Loopz website is moving soon (way too slow! on the HK site) so
ill stick a FAQ bit on as well. and a rare/live sample page...just need
the time to do it.

Steve

----------------------[Reply - Original Message]----------------------

Sent by:[e-mail]


>Maybe it's time for an FAQ with these URL's and some clarification on the
>UK/US release differences? Any volunteers to help write it? Or don't we
need
>one after all?

     Oh we need one.......!

     Could answer the likes of:

     1. Discography (US & UK) (Yep - it's on Loopz & more, but they will
     ask again...and again...)
     2. Samples (details of any known ones, written in a special code
which
     only we can decipher, to keep evil royalty-grabbers at bay)
     3. Origins of track titles.
     4. Collaborators/remixers/vocalists...
     5. How do I get off this list etc... ;)
     6. Upcoming tour dates
     7. Who's going to copy live blah blah for me please please...
     8. Best web pages.
     9. The brother's influences.
     10.What're they up to now?
     blah
     blah
     etc...
     ..

     OK - now who wants to write the damn thing?!

     Sandy




=====================================================================

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: re:Re[4]: Some questions...
Date: 13 Jan 1997 18:07:18 GMT

Sandy...u have the last track on the uk.

Steve

----------------------[Reply - Original Message]----------------------

Sent by:[e-mail]

>You've got the UK release, I'd expect. It's not got Choice or Moby remix
>of Speed Freak (original instead), has Farenheit 303 (not 3D3), and one
or
>two other different tracks. And the uncredited last track is called 'I
>think it's disgusting'.

     Hmm... this means I'm going to have to go get it ordered, doesn't it?

     Is it worth getting for the different versions of Fahrenheit * Speed
     Freak?  & what's the last track like?

     Sandy



=====================================================================

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: FAQ...
Date: 13 Jan 1997 13:08:46 -0500 (EST)

In a message dated 13/01/97  13:54:35, you write:

">Maybe it's time for an FAQ with these URL's and some clarification on the
 >UK/US release differences? Any volunteers to help write it? Or don't we
need
 >one after all?

      Oh we need one.......!

      Could answer the likes of:

      1. Discography (US & UK) (Yep - it's on Loopz & more, but they will
      ask again...and again...)"

      Well, Lazlo will email his on request (right?) so maybe we could put in
email as well as the web urls. Wouldn't it be a bit large for a weekly FAQ?*

"      2. Samples (details of any known ones, written in a special code which

      only we can decipher, to keep evil royalty-grabbers at bay)"

Hmm. Sounds a bit tricky. Any suggestions on *how* to do this? Personally I
have a few of them from the early days of my website but where are the rest?

"      3. Origins of track titles.
      4. Collaborators/remixers/vocalists..."

Lots of work there. Maybe additions to the website(s) not in the FAQ?

"      5. How do I get off this list etc... ;)"

It's at the top of each digest, isn't it, but that's no use for those on
message-by-message. Maybe owner-orbital could email the details once or week
or something?

"      6. Upcoming tour dates
      7. Who's going to copy live blah blah for me please please...
      8. Best web pages.
      9. The brother's influences.
      10.What're they up to now?"

6 and 10 are probably best left to the Web (as they need updating too often
for an FAQ, possibly). 9 could be straightfoward (I've a largish chunk of
interviews to base it on). 8 is a matter of opinion :O) Maybe we should poll
the list? (Let's agree to do it before swamping the list though?) As to 7, is
there a single answer?

Maybe Q11 should be 'What other bands do Orbital fans like' which I tried to
take care of but haven't been quick enough in following up (sorry to all the
people who sent bands before Christmas who *still* aren't up there...)

"      OK - now who wants to write the damn thing?!

      Sandy"

I'll certainly help; Steve and Lazlo aught to be in on this too. Where are
you? :O) Also, who *is* owner-orbital at the moment? I've referred to him/her
a lot in this email.

* or should it be posted on subscription? What are the mechanics of this-
will majordomo@xmission take care of this easily?

Looking forward to lots of American discussion overnight.

Paul. [e-mail].

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (orbital) uk 2x12"
Date: 13 Jan 1997 13:09:48 -0500 (EST)

Anyone bought the UK 2x12" out today? I was a little put off by the # 5.99
plus price tag, despite assuming there's a hidden track. And anyone found out
what it is?

Cheers, Paul. [e-mail].

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: re:Fwd: Orbital
Date: 13 Jan 1997 18:14:54 GMT

I still think he is a silly CL$"! :)

He is nearly as worse as that Pete Tong! (complete twat!)

nice 1 Paul! :)

Steve

----------------------[Reply - Original Message]----------------------

Sent by:[e-mail]
 Wow. Look what I just recieved:

In a message dated 13/01/97  15:26:09,  [e-mail] (Mark
Goodier)
writes:

"Subj:    Re: Orbital
 Date:    13/01/97  15:26:09
 From:    [e-mail] (Mark Goodier)
 To:    [e-mail] (PMison)

 good point Paul,

 I'll remember!

 Mark"

Wow... retract all those swearwords from the earlier post. I mean, he
*did*
do the Evening Session in the twilight years of the early '90s. Respect
for
actually *reading* his email. Match that, MTV....

Cheers, Paul. Feeling all amazed.


---------------------
Forwarded message:

good point Paul,

I'll remember!

Mark


=====================================================================

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From: "Anthony Agee" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Orbital vs. ????
Date: 13 Jan 1997 12:10:48 -0600

> > Portishead is highly overrated.  I'd much rather see Orbital work with
> > Bjork (or have they already?).
> Bjork is extremely, highly, out-of-this worldly overrated.  how 'bout
> orbital and Mellisa Ethridge (or have they already?).

Melissa Ethridge!?!?  Christ....I think it would be offensive for Orbital
to be in the same recording studio as Ms.
I'm-Gay-So-You-Should-Overlook-The-Fact-That-I-Write-Shitty-Music.

Sorry chap...just got me going there.  Bjork has more talent in her pinkie
finger than Ethridge has in her entire body.


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From: "Anthony Agee" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: atari teenage riot
Date: 13 Jan 1997 12:05:54 -0600

> only heard about the band, and never had a chance to hear them, it's
pretty
> good that MTV played them once so you know that you dislike their stuff.
> That little five monutes of saying "god!  the video could at least have
> been in color!" means you saved $12 on the cd, or more if it's still just


Good point.  I'm happy that AMP is showing new stuff.  Although this
particular new stuff, "atari teenage riot", is crappy to these ears.  A
rapid-firing drum machine with yesteryear speed metal is hardly my idea of
good music...but dammit I'd rather see that than that other shit MTV plays.
 At least it's fresh._______________________

[e-mail]
Check out White Trash World at:
http://www.wwi.net/orbital/home.htm

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From: "Anthony Agee" <[e-mail]>
Subject: In defense of Bjork
Date: 13 Jan 1997 12:12:45 -0600

Listen to her albums Debut and Post and then tell me she sucks.  I guess
it's possible you might think so...but I always thought an Orbital fan
would like her.  oh well.


[e-mail]

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Fwd: Orbital
Date: 13 Jan 1997 13:19:10 -0500 (EST)

Just realized, the other message with the subject Fwd: re: Orbital won't make
much sense without this.

"Subj:    Orbital
 Date:    13/01/97  12:21:15
 From:    PMison
 To:    [e-mail]
 Sent on:    WAOL sub 163

 If 'Satan Live' is still in the charts next week, could you please call the
band Orbital not 'The Orbital'? You wouldn't call Slade 'The Slade'!

 Cheers. Paul Mison.
 http://members.aol.com/orbital101/"

Hope that makes more sense now. For our US chums, Mark Goodier reads the UK
national chart on Radio 1.
---------------------
Forwarded message:
Subj:    Orbital

If 'Satan Live' is still in the charts next week, could you please call the
band Orbital not 'The Orbital'? You wouldn't call Slade 'The Slade'!

Cheers. Paul Mison.
http://members.aol.com/orbital101/

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From: "Anthony Agee" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Orbital vs. Aphex
Date: 13 Jan 1997 12:22:14 -0600

This would be probably impossible but damn, it would be nice.

I'm thoroughly convinced that *any* lyrics by *any* artist on an Orbital
song do nothing but ruin the track.  I know that I'm alone in thinking
this...but it's my opinion.

P.S.---I'm not talking about Auntie's stuff....she's great!



[e-mail]

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From: ^EA^ <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: FAQ...
Date: 13 Jan 1997 10:38:30 -0800

[e-mail] wrote:

<EDIT>
>      OK - now who wants to write the damn thing?!
>
>      Sandy  </EDIT>

I have webspace and would be more than willing to put up and leave up a
FAQ's page *also* if you'd like,which could be as a link from mailing
list people's site's if that would help in any way?

If so i would need Steve,Paul and Lazlo's help for sure and anyone else
who cares to chip in :)

Just a thought from someone who would like to get involved...



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From: "Lazlo Nibble" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: FAQ...
Date: 13 Jan 1997 13:15:28 -0700 (MST)

>>       1. Discography (US & UK) (Yep - it's on Loopz & more, but they will
>>       ask again...and again...)"
>
>       Well, Lazlo will email his on request (right?)

Right.  You can get the entire discography by emailing [e-mail] with
the command GET ORBITAL on a line by itself in the body of your message, or
search it by sending the command SEARCH ORBITAL whatever-you're-searching-for
to the same address.

I think the best solution to the FAQ "problem" would be to include the full
FAQ in the welcome message each person gets when they sign on and then either
post a weekly "why you should read the FAQ and how to get it" message to the
list, or include pointers to the FAQ in footers at the end of each message
that goes out over the list (which majordomo does easily -- I do it on all the
lists I run at xmission; see below);

>> 5. How do I get off this list etc... ;)"
>
> It's at the top of each digest, isn't it, but that's no use for those on
> message-by-message. Maybe owner-orbital could email the details once or week
> or something?

My lists all include at the foot of each message:

# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Email [e-mail] with "info exotica" in the message.

The info message includes full instructions for leaving the list.  Of course,
there'll always be people who don't bother to read the footer, but they make
for great target practice . . .

> I'll certainly help; Steve and Lazlo aught to be in on this too. Where are
> you?

I'm right here.  I can provide a summarized version of my discography if
that'll help.

--
::: Lazlo ([e-mail]; http://www.swcp.com/lazlo)

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: True Meaning??
Date: 13 Jan 1997 15:19:16 -0500 (EST)

Got a question for you Steve and anyone else who of course will give their
$.02...

What do you interpret (or what did the bros interpret) the beginning of
"satan" to mean?:
adultery? divorce? etc...hmmmm good question huh...

jamie

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From: fanno <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: In defense of Bjork
Date: 13 Jan 1997 12:46:54 -0800 (PST)



On Mon, 13 Jan 1997, Anthony Agee wrote:

> Listen to her albums Debut and Post and then tell me she sucks.  I guess
> it's possible you might think so...but I always thought an Orbital fan
> would like her.  oh well.
>
>
> [e-mail]
>
I second that motion.  Bjork is far from overrated.  Anyone who can step
out an icebowl such as Iceland and make a name for herself around the
world should not be overlooked.  I mean, how many people paid attention to
Iceland before the sugarcubes.  'Nuff said.
  Jeff Fanno


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From: fanno <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: atari teenage riot
Date: 13 Jan 1997 12:49:54 -0800 (PST)



On Mon, 13 Jan 1997, Anthony Agee wrote:

> > only heard about the band, and never had a chance to hear them, it's
> pretty
> > good that MTV played them once so you know that you dislike their stuff.
> > That little five monutes of saying "god!  the video could at least have
> > been in color!" means you saved $12 on the cd, or more if it's still just
>
>
> Good point.  I'm happy that AMP is showing new stuff.  Although this
> particular new stuff, "atari teenage riot", is crappy to these ears.  A
> rapid-firing drum machine with yesteryear speed metal is hardly my idea of
> good music...but dammit I'd rather see that than that other shit MTV plays.
>  At least it's fresh._______________________
>
> [e-mail]
> Check out White Trash World at:
> http://www.wwi.net/orbital/home.htm
>
I thought the FSOL video of Omnipresence was the best video I've ever
witnessed.  It was the first time I can recall a video that was so
similar to what I've experienced in my minds eye. Plus it had that hybrid
looking girl in it that FSOL likes have in so many of there layouts.
  L8R
   Jeff Fanno


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From: "Michael A. Polisky" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: True Meaning?? of SATAN
Date: 13 Jan 1997 16:45:30 -0500


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From: The Box <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Dwr Budr and other questions
Date: 13 Jan 1997 16:34:14 -0500 (EST)

On Mon, 13 Jan 1997 [e-mail] wrote:

>
> In a message dated 97-01-12 10:36:08 EST, you write:
>
> << ermmm....on and on and on....i dont think so... ;)
>  The original of Halcyon didnt have the words on and on and on in the title
>  let alone in the track.
>
>  Can i just point out that the Halcyon samples are also reversed...
>
>  I want the same drugs u have got... ;)
>   >>
>
> I was talking about Halcyon+On+On.  I thought you would figure it out.

    Either way it's the same sample. It's the same on both versions.
Halcyon + On + On does have that one bit that's not in the other that
comes in about 1:30, but I think that's just them sampling her directly,
and not taken from Opus 3..

halcyon <n> - A fabled bird, identified with the kingfisher, that was
supposed to have had the power to calm the wind and the waves during
winter solstice while it rested on the sea.
      <adj> - 1. Calm and peaceful; tranquil.
          2. Prosperous; golden.


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From: [e-mail] (Quinone)
Subject: Re: FAQ...
Date: 13 Jan 1997 15:59:43 -0600 (CST)

>It's at the top of each digest, isn't it, but that's no use for those on
>message-by-message. Maybe owner-orbital could email the details once or week
>or something?
actually, what another list of that I'm on does is simply tags three or so
lines on the bottom of each letter before re-directing it.  I'm sure this
could be a simple ad-hoc thing to put in the dispactch program/script, and
if people are really that desperate (?!) then they can jump ship at any time.

Oh, also, I'd be glad to help with the design/structure of the page if need
be... also, I've got plenty of space that's going to squat anyhow.

Later all...


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From: [e-mail] (Quinone)
Subject: Re: a meager request
Date: 13 Jan 1997 16:07:31 -0600 (CST)

>I take it by sample CDs you mean the stuff like you get from
>Time+Space, or whoever. If that's the case, then the thing about
>Orbital is that they use their imagination and get sounds from
>unlikely places, instead of just relying on stuff from sample CDs
>which everyone else has. For example, on Walk Now (Brown), there's
>the sound of an Australian pedestrian crossing. How many other
>records can you think of that have that on it?

I agree entirely, both on the mundane beginnings of most samples, and the
xtreme creativity that Orbital uses.  However, even the basest of samples
come from somewhere.  Well, maybe not, but I think you know what I mean.
Actually, when I planned to do things with lots of vocals (other than my
non-existant ones, heh heh!) I was sampling some pretty interesting stuff
off of Christian TV, or whatever syndication follows suit.  And of course
its always great to ahve new samples, but as I'm sure you're aware, with the
complexity of some of the sond editing programs that are out today you can
transform a sample, totally!

>This is just my opinion, but a sampler can be one of the best
Bah, it is an excellent opinion and one to screen by!

>I'm not trying to put you off or anything, but try and use
>your imagination. Sample loads of different, non-obvious stuff
>and manipulate it in lots of different ways to find truly original
>sounds.
Don't worry, I've done that to myself, and I think that the essential part
of being one who appreciates music is being able to do whatever the hell you
want and make it sound good! I know though, that some of their sounds (most
of the percusion for example) is not entirely original, I mean how original
can you get with sine waves? Nonetheless, I was just wondering if anyone
knew if they used any particular brand, one that I could possibly find and
try to make my own set of footsteps with...

If everyone didn't find this appealing, sorry, but I thought it had at least
.001% bearing on this list, enough to go public!  But for now, I'll go back
to lurking and enjoy the ride!

thnx



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From: Geoffrey Elgey <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Spoon Deep
Date: 14 Jan 1997 08:11:02 +0000

G'day

>From: Jon Green <[e-mail]>
>My favourite Underworld track is eithe rthe Lushh 3-3 mix, or the 'Spoon
>Deep' mix of Dark and Long (18 minutes of heaven).

'Spoon Deep' is actually a remix of 'Surfboy', not 'Dark & Long' (although
it does appear on the April Records 'Dark & Long' CD.

Cheers,
Geoff


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From: lysergic ad naseum <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: True Meaning?? of SATAN
Date: 13 Jan 1997 16:39:34 -0600

according to the brothers, the surfers stole it from the residents anyway...
so, ask anybody you care too...


                                        -lysergic


At 04:45 PM 1/13/97 -0500, Michael A. Polisky wrote:
> I think that would be a better question for the butthole surfers, since
>it comes from their song "Sweatloaf."
>mike!
>[e-mail]
><HTML><BODY>
>
><DT> I think that would be a better question for the butthole surfers,
>since it comes from their song "Sweatloaf."</DT>
>
><DT>mike!</DT>
>
><DT>[e-mail]</DT>
>
></BODY>
></HTML>


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From: Hans Lo <[e-mail]>
Subject: Satan Live
Date: 12 Jan 1997 17:48:10 -0500

Actually I have two questions.

I was in London, England over the hollidays and I picked up all three
Satan live for ú1.99 each. I haven't seen it over here in North America
but I was wondering if it was released here yet. At the store where I
picked up they had around 40 copies of each single, but they sold them
all within a day. For some reason, singles just aren't as popular here
in NA which is a shame.

The second question is concerning the single The Box. What is the second
song called on that single? I haven't been able to find out from anyone.
Was it just released on that one single? I've never heard it before last
summer's Orbital tour.

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From: Aaron Thomas <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: True Meaning??
Date: 13 Jan 1997 15:19:55 -0800 (PST)

I see it as being War and the acts of destruction... The Video images at
their performance at Deck the Halls Ball in Seattle would attest to this,
no?
Was anyone else there?

Aaron

>
> Got a question for you Steve and anyone else who of course will give their
> $.02...
>
> What do you interpret (or what did the bros interpret) the beginning of
> "satan" to mean?:
> adultery? divorce? etc...hmmmm good question huh...
>
> jamie
>


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From: Greg Liu <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Satan Live
Date: 13 Jan 1997 15:42:35 -0800 (PST)

Actually, the whole Box single is just simply the Box I believe.  They are
all just sort of different mixes/versions of the original track 1.  They
all seem to have the same general theme to them.

Greg

On Sun, 12 Jan 1997, Hans Lo wrote:

> Actually I have two questions.=20
>=20
> I was in London, England over the hollidays and I picked up all three
> Satan live for =A31.99 each. I haven't seen it over here in North America
> but I was wondering if it was released here yet. At the store where I
> picked up they had around 40 copies of each single, but they sold them
> all within a day. For some reason, singles just aren't as popular here
> in NA which is a shame.=20
>=20
> The second question is concerning the single The Box. What is the second
> song called on that single? I haven't been able to find out from anyone.
> Was it just released on that one single? I've never heard it before last
> summer's Orbital tour.
>=20


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From: "Lazlo Nibble" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Satan Live
Date: 13 Jan 1997 17:08:21 -0700 (MST)

> The second question is concerning the single The Box. What is the second
> song called on that single? I haven't been able to find out from anyone.

What "second song"?  The only thing on the single for The Box are the four
parts of The Box . . .

--
::: Lazlo ([e-mail]; http://www.swcp.com/lazlo)

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From: "R. TAYLOR" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: atari teenage riot
Date: 13 Jan 1997 17:57:02 -0700 (MST)

On Mon, 13 Jan 1997, fanno wrote:

>
>
> On Mon, 13 Jan 1997, Anthony Agee wrote:
>
> > > only heard about the band, and never had a chance to hear them, it's
> > pretty
> > > good that MTV played them once so you know that you dislike their stuff.
> > > That little five monutes of saying "god!  the video could at least have
> > > been in color!" means you saved $12 on the cd, or more if it's still just
> >
> >
> > Good point.  I'm happy that AMP is showing new stuff.  Although this
> > particular new stuff, "atari teenage riot", is crappy to these ears.  A
> > rapid-firing drum machine with yesteryear speed metal is hardly my idea of
> > good music...but dammit I'd rather see that than that other shit MTV plays.
> >  At least it's fresh._______________________
> >
> > [e-mail]
> > Check out White Trash World at:
> > http://www.wwi.net/orbital/home.htm
> >
> I thought the FSOL video of Omnipresence was the best video I've ever
> witnessed.  It was the first time I can recall a video that was so
> similar to what I've experienced in my minds eye. Plus it had that hybrid
> looking girl in it that FSOL likes have in so many of there layouts.
>   L8R
>    Jeff Fanno
>
I'm glad for the Amp sad it's made later MTV to expensive. Unhappy
there's only 15 min. of good videos and 30 min of advertising. They're
teasing us like they did with alternative nation, and when it finally
comes down to it they'll discover a whole bunch of couterfeit junk techno
just like they did to punk and ignore the whole reality and history of
the music. Even Smashing Pumpkins were bought and sold, I remember, I saw
it when I was hanging out with them in June of 1991. Darcy was looking
for the highest bidder at all expenses.>
        Cheers Randarian Princess of Wisdom in the desert-
because I can't stand this shit. PS now that Orb is Major no radio play
for the Psycedelic show I do, and Green Hell Records and like minded
indie record stores can no longer carry them lovely. Get that label boys.

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: Dwr Budr and other questions
Date: 13 Jan 1997 20:12:13 -0500 (EST)

In a message dated 97-01-13 07:10:46 EST, you write:

<< I am sure they sampled the 'da da da da dah dee dah da dah ' bit right off
 the start, which, as far as I'm concerned, doesn't constitute words. >>

Yah, but there is a lot of singing id Haclyon this is just a straight note.
 ex laaaaaaaa.
Where was this found in It's a fine day?  Besides, are you doubting the
brothers ability or are you saying they don't make their own samples.

Morpheus

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From: Duncan Price <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: In defense of Bjork
Date: 13 Jan 1997 20:36:55 -0500

Word!

I think Bjork is at her best since she left Sugarcubes...

I am anxiously awaiting her new CD - in stores tomorrow!

Have you seen her "Vessel" video (live)?   I made an audio tape from
it....highly recommended.

Isobel....Mmmmmmmmmm.
Hyper-ballad (Robin Hood Riding Through The Glen Mix)....delightlful.

Duncan
Chapel Thrill, NC
:o)




At 12:12 PM 1/13/97 -0600, you wrote:
>Listen to her albums Debut and Post and then tell me she sucks.  I guess
>it's possible you might think so...but I always thought an Orbital fan
>would like her.  oh well.
>
>
>[e-mail]
>


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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: noyclaH
Date: 13 Jan 1997 20:38:09 -0500 (EST)

In a message dated 97-01-13 13:01:16 EST, you write:

<< Ahem...calm down ;)
 No version of Halcyon has valid words in it...apart from the Live BJ/BC
 versions...desrever selpmas >>

That is what I'm talking about.  It's a fine day has all words.  Even if they
are reversed, you would be able to here something which sounds remotely like
words, but in most of Halcyon you can't even hear that.  Besides all I'm
saying is that the brothers are very good at manipulating samples.

Morpheus

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From: Hans Lo <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Satan Live
Date: 12 Jan 1997 21:50:33 -0500

Greg Liu wrote:
>
> Actually, the whole Box single is just simply the Box I believe.  They are
> all just sort of different mixes/versions of the original track 1.  They
> all seem to have the same general theme to them.
>
> Greg

Tracks 1,3 & 4 are the Box, but the second track is not the Box. At
least, it's not recognisable in any way shape or form. I don't know
where it came from but it is one of my favorite Orbital song, even
though I know next to nothing about it, which is why I'm trying to find
more information out.

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From: Hans Lo <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Satan Live
Date: 12 Jan 1997 21:52:44 -0500

> What "second song"?  The only thing on the single for The Box are the four
> parts of The Box . . .

Well I thought it was a dinstinctly unique song different than the Box.
The 1st 3rd and 4th tracks are all remixes of the Box, but the second is
totally new. It's not like it was on In Sides.

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From: Hans Lo <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: In defense of Bjork
Date: 12 Jan 1997 21:54:54 -0500

Duncan Price wrote:
>
> Word!
>
> I think Bjork is at her best since she left Sugarcubes...
>
> I am anxiously awaiting her new CD - in stores tomorrow!
>

Are you talking about Telegram? That's strange, I've had Telegram for
over 3 weeks now. It's not bad, it's different but I wouldn't say the
remixes were the best remixes from Post.

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From: Aleksandra Adamovic <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Steel Cube Idolatry
Date: 14 Jan 1997 03:58:36 +0100 (MET)


>      ... and "Adnan's" - any clues?

   A clue: honestly can't remember where I digged that one from:))
           "Adnan" (no "'s") appeared on 95' "HELP-WAR CHILD" compilation
           in 95...suppose most of you know about that one...Adnan is a
           bosnian kid who was supposed to leave his hometown to a safer
           place but refused to join the rest of the refugees cause his
           father was supposed to stay (women and children first)...he did
           stay and shortly afterwards he lost his legs in one of the bomb
           attacks...CNN or BBC broadcasted a documentary on a story from
           which Hartnolls sampled the part on the "HELP" version
           (something like "He was supposed to go...'I can't leave my
           daddy alone' he said...")...

>          "P.E.T.R.O.L." an acronym for something? >
           hmmm...to the one who answers this one...the version on a
           "Wipeout 2097" is titled PETROL (no points)...explanation???

Sasha.

P.S. BJORK is DA WOMAN!!! No question about it...just listen...


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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: True Meaning?? of SATAN
Date: 13 Jan 1997 23:19:24 -0500 (EST)

well...i think its a question for orbital because they are the ones who put
it in their song--that's what i am asking.... :-)

anyone else wanna try?

jamie

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From: "Ravis1" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Satan Live
Date: 13 Jan 1997 22:42:11 -0600

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Check Autechre singles.  Now there's some unrecognizable versions of the
same song.

Ravis1
[e-mail]

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> From: Hans Lo <[e-mail]>
>
>
> Tracks 1,3 & 4 are the Box, but the second track is not the Box. At
> least, it's not recognisable in any way shape or form. I don't know
> where it came from but it is one of my favorite Orbital song, even
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From: "Vector Audax" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: FAQ...
Date: 13 Jan 1997 23:53:56 -0600

i just finished going thru all your tracks that you sent me... oooh god...
you gotta give me something to do on stage, even if it is just air playing
on my NEW ROLAND JP8000 (when i get it).... No matter what price... when it
gets to Winnipeg, that puppy is mine... out comes the RRSP's and in comes
the ecstacy!   It looks like everything i need to start really
contributing.  That track was so f'in great... i piddled in my panties.
shit shit shit!  i cant wait for your tape.... make sure it is good
quality, eh?  no C-60 for this one.. this baby is going straight for the
majors... and i am definately seeking out Mr. Clarke to get Airplay for it.
 Hot damn!

I'll try to get some stuff off the internet... but i am going shopping
later this week for a new soundcard... gotta get the full duplex thing
working on my machine, and install my 6X CD ROM.  Ugghhh i need to play!

Kelly

----------
> From: [e-mail]
> To: [e-mail]
> Subject: Re: FAQ...
> Date: January 13, 1997 12:08 PM
>
> In a message dated 13/01/97  13:54:35, you write:
>
> ">Maybe it's time for an FAQ with these URL's and some clarification on
the
>  >UK/US release differences? Any volunteers to help write it? Or don't we
> need
>  >one after all?
>
>       Oh we need one.......!
>
>       Could answer the likes of:
>
>       1. Discography (US & UK) (Yep - it's on Loopz & more, but they will

>       ask again...and again...)"
>
>       Well, Lazlo will email his on request (right?) so maybe we could
put in
> email as well as the web urls. Wouldn't it be a bit large for a weekly
FAQ?*
>
> "      2. Samples (details of any known ones, written in a special code
which
>
>       only we can decipher, to keep evil royalty-grabbers at bay)"
>
> Hmm. Sounds a bit tricky. Any suggestions on *how* to do this? Personally
I
> have a few of them from the early days of my website but where are the
rest?
>
> "      3. Origins of track titles.
>       4. Collaborators/remixers/vocalists..."
>
> Lots of work there. Maybe additions to the website(s) not in the FAQ?
>
> "      5. How do I get off this list etc... ;)"
>
> It's at the top of each digest, isn't it, but that's no use for those on
> message-by-message. Maybe owner-orbital could email the details once or
week
> or something?
>
> "      6. Upcoming tour dates
>       7. Who's going to copy live blah blah for me please please...
>       8. Best web pages.
>       9. The brother's influences.
>       10.What're they up to now?"
>
> 6 and 10 are probably best left to the Web (as they need updating too
often
> for an FAQ, possibly). 9 could be straightfoward (I've a largish chunk of
> interviews to base it on). 8 is a matter of opinion :O) Maybe we should
poll
> the list? (Let's agree to do it before swamping the list though?) As to
7, is
> there a single answer?
>
> Maybe Q11 should be 'What other bands do Orbital fans like' which I tried
to
> take care of but haven't been quick enough in following up (sorry to all
the
> people who sent bands before Christmas who *still* aren't up there...)
>
> "      OK - now who wants to write the damn thing?!
>
>       Sandy"
>
> I'll certainly help; Steve and Lazlo aught to be in on this too. Where
are
> you? :O) Also, who *is* owner-orbital at the moment? I've referred to
him/her
> a lot in this email.
>
> * or should it be posted on subscription? What are the mechanics of this-
> will majordomo@xmission take care of this easily?
>
> Looking forward to lots of American discussion overnight.
>
> Paul. [e-mail].

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: An idea
Date: 14 Jan 1997 02:23:13 -0500 (EST)

Hey since most of us are trakkers, why don't we throw some of our works in
with the mail.  This way we can all hear each others traks.  The people that
don't care, don't download.  Sound like a plan,  I can mail some of my shit
too.
All trakkers comment.
Morpheus

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: Satan Live
Date: 14 Jan 1997 02:28:30 -0500 (EST)

In a message dated 97-01-13 19:16:31 EST, you write:

<< What "second song"?  The only thing on the single for The Box are the four
 parts of The Box . . . >>

is it the same four parts that are on the In Sides dual cd?

Morpheus

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: Orbital vs. Underworld
Date: 14 Jan 1997 02:38:17 -0500 (EST)

In a message dated 97-01-12 16:54:26 EST, you write:

<< ts a bit boring could someone please
 point me in the way of a some good CJ material please? >>
Electronic Highway by Bolland is my fav cd right now.........excellent...and
much better than that Sugar single.

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: Dwr Budr and other questions
Date: 14 Jan 1997 02:57:31 -0500 (EST)

In a message dated 97-01-13 16:43:09 EST, you write:

<<     Either way it's the same sample. It's the same on both versions.
 Halcyon + On + On does have that one bit that's not in the other that
 comes in about 1:30, but I think that's just them sampling her directly,
 and not taken from Opus 3.. >>

I think we should just drop this.  It is impossible for me to explain what I
mean without showing you the part in the song.  So let's just kill that
noise.

Morpheus

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: re:In defense of Bjork
Date: 14 Jan 1997 8:50:49 GMT

Im wish ya....

Liked Bjork from Sugarcubes to present day. And she aint ripping no one
off unlike a few artists that we could mention.

Steve LOOPZ Price

----------------------[Reply - Original Message]----------------------

Sent by:"Anthony Agee" <[e-mail]>
 Listen to her albums Debut and Post and then tell me she sucks.  I guess
it's possible you might think so...but I always thought an Orbital fan
would like her.  oh well.


[e-mail]

=====================================================================

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: re:(orbital) uk 2x12"
Date: 14 Jan 1997 8:52:19 GMT

Assuming.... :)

There is a hidden track like i said b4 Christmas (this one aint no
rumour!) ;)

Another thing to mention...is shop around....only the big boys are selling
it at 5.99...ive seen it for sale for 1.99 in Riochet for example.

Steve LOOPZ Price

----------------------[Reply - Original Message]----------------------

Sent by:[e-mail]
 Anyone bought the UK 2x12" out today? I was a little put off by the #
5.99
plus price tag, despite assuming there's a hidden track. And anyone found
out
what it is?

Cheers, Paul. [e-mail].

=====================================================================

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: re:True Meaning??
Date: 14 Jan 1997 9:03:53 GMT

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From: Siamese Dream <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Steel Cube Idolatry
Date: 14 Jan 1997 09:19:39 +0000 (GMT)

Wasn't PETROL on WipEout for the PlayStation originally written for that
game and later changed a bit for the Insides album?

I still dunno what its an acronym for bit i think its about us gradually using
all our natural resourses for petrol and power or something.  Im begining to
jibber on now so i will leave you all to it :)

laters

james
:-)))
[e-mail]


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From: "Seamus (James) Swift" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Correct address for that Sniv sample
Date: 14 Jan 1997 09:24:32 -0000

Thanks to Ian for spotting the mistake !

here is the address !



 http://www.griffin.co.uk/users/whois/sample.htm

what do you think ?

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From: Andrew Jackson <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Leaving the List
Date: 14 Jan 1997 10:53:27 GMT

> > i've subscribed to this list and now i get 40 massages a day.
> > so when you find out how to do it , let me know.
Of all the lists I have joined, I've never received a massage from
any of them - and this guy gets 40 a day!

I want my virtual money back.

Andy

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From: Andrew Jackson <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Orbital vs. ????
Date: 14 Jan 1997 10:58:07 GMT


> > I'd LOVE for Orbital to work with Portishead. They could release the
> result
> > under Portibal.
> >     Just a thought...

If Darren Emerson remixed an Orbital track would it be an Orbison
remix?

Seriously though, how about Orbital vs Yello?

Andy

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From: Andrew Jackson <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Orbital vs. Underworld
Date: 14 Jan 1997 10:59:28 GMT


> Orbital and Underworld, now THAT would be SOMETHING incredible!

Now, wasn't that one on the Lush CD too?

A


"For my birthday I got a humidifier and a de-humidifier.
 I put them in the same room and let them fight it out."
(Stephen Wright)

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From: Digger <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Orbital vs. ????
Date: 14 Jan 1997 05:23:23 -0500

At 10:58 AM 1/14/97 GMT, you wrote:
>
>> > I'd LOVE for Orbital to work with Portishead. They could release the
>> result
>> > under Portibal.
>> >     Just a thought...
>
>If Darren Emerson remixed an Orbital track would it be an Orbison
>remix?
>
>Seriously though, how about Orbital vs Yello?
                                                Ohhhh Yeah, Chicka Chicka!
>Andy
>
I could see that one!
Even though i'm not a huge Yello fan!

Dig
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                        Http://www.jorsm.com/~digger
           I Am Lost And Have Gone To Look For Myself
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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (orbital) uk 2x12"
Date: 14 Jan 1997 09:06:12 -0500


     Satan's at no. 9 in the Irish charts....

     The 12" is going for 3.99 here, same as the cds.


______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________
Author:  [e-mail] at Internet2


Anyone bought the UK 2x12" out today? I was a little put off by the # 5.99
plus price tag, despite assuming there's a hidden track. And anyone found out
what it is?

Cheers, Paul. [e-mail].

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re[2]: FAQ...
Date: 14 Jan 1997 09:09:42 -0500

     Well, I've lots of space available too if it's needed - there's
     nothing else there at the moment!


______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________
Author:  ^EA^ <[e-mail]> at Internet2


[e-mail] wrote:

<EDIT>
>      OK - now who wants to write the damn thing?!
>
>      Sandy  </EDIT>

I have webspace and would be more than willing to put up and leave up a
FAQ's page *also* if you'd like,which could be as a link from mailing
list people's site's if that would help in any way?

If so i would need Steve,Paul and Lazlo's help for sure and anyone else
who cares to chip in :)

Just a thought from someone who would like to get involved...



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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re[2]: FAQ...
Date: 14 Jan 1997 09:13:36 -0500


>I think the best solution to the FAQ "problem" would be to include the full
>FAQ in the welcome message each person gets when they sign on and then either
>post a weekly "why you should read the FAQ and how to get it" message to the
>list, or include pointers to the FAQ in footers at the end of each message
>that goes out over the list (which majordomo does easily -- I do it on all
>the lists I run at xmission; see below);

Excellent idea...this'll save lots of repetition!  Could also stick it up on a
web page for those with browsers & too much time on their hands :)

Sandy.


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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re[2]: True Meaning?? of SATAN
Date: 14 Jan 1997 09:35:17 -0500




______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________
Author:  lysergic ad naseum <[e-mail]> at Internet2


>according to the brothers, the surfers stole it from the residents anyway...
>so, ask anybody you care too...
>-lysergic


     Stole it from who?

     I'd like to know why the brothers put this particular sample at the
     start of Satan (...if you see your mom this weekend, be sure & tell
     her...)- I doubt they just slap an ol' sample in here & there cos the
     song needs something - I'd like to think it said something to them,
     for it to earn worthiness for inclusion in one of their pieces!  (Or
     do I just read WAY too much into these things?!)

     Sandy.



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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re[2]: In defense of Bjork
Date: 14 Jan 1997 09:26:32 -0500

     This is just MHO, I don't want to belittle anyone else's likings:
     I think the dancey stuff Bjork does is excellent, but the rest of her
     stuff just doesn't do it for me.  I'd heard all the singles by the
     Sugarcubes, and by the woman herself, and decided to give her albums a
     good listen, but just didn't like them as much.  Seeing her play
     before Underworld a few months ago just reinforced my opinion, even
     though I'd been looking forward to seeing her play - the entire crowd
     was incredibly frustrated, waiting for her to up the tempo a bit, and
     just as she'd get the place moving she'd bring it right down again...
     that was so bloody annoying - I've never seen a crowd react that way
     before - at least 1/2 the people there were there to see Bjork, but
     I'd say a lot of those were as relieved as me to see her leave the
     stage!
     Underworld soon rectified the situation.....:)))  Last time I'd seen a
     crowd react like THAT was Orbital - they didn't half rock the place,
     and loved every minute of it themselves, by the looks of it!


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On Mon, 13 Jan 1997, Anthony Agee wrote:

> Listen to her albums Debut and Post and then tell me she sucks.  I guess
> it's possible you might think so...but I always thought an Orbital fan
> would like her.  oh well.
>
>
> [e-mail]
>
I second that motion.  Bjork is far from overrated.  Anyone who can step
out an icebowl such as Iceland and make a name for herself around the
world should not be overlooked.  I mean, how many people paid attention to
Iceland before the sugarcubes.  'Nuff said.
  Jeff Fanno


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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: An idea
Date: 14 Jan 1997 09:43:41 -0500

     Nothing aural to contribute, but I wouln't mind hearing what ye have
     to offer...

     Sandy.


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Hey since most of us are trakkers, why don't we throw some of our works in
with the mail.  This way we can all hear each others traks.  The people that
don't care, don't download.  Sound like a plan,  I can mail some of my shit
too.
All trakkers comment.
Morpheus

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From: Martin Ayrton <[e-mail]>
Subject: Orbital drum machines via Sine Waves.
Date: 14 Jan 1997 11:56:35 +0000

>I know though, that some of their sounds (most
>of the percusion for example) is not entirely original, I mean how original
>can you get with sine waves? Nonetheless, I was just wondering if anyone
>knew if they used any particular brand, one that I could possibly find and
>try to make my own set of footsteps with...

They use the Roland TR808 a great deal, and there is an immense amount
you can do with sine waves as they are the fundimental of all sound
creation.

M:)



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From: "Seamus (James) Swift" <[e-mail]>
Subject: London Orbital
Date: 14 Jan 1997 12:28:32 -0000

I was down in London yesterday and while was travelling along the M25 I
thought, wouldn't it be great if Orbital did a track composed of sounds
recorded while travelling around the London Orbital.

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From: "Seamus (James) Swift" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Feile 95
Date: 14 Jan 1997 12:32:28 -0000

Did anyone see Orbital at Feile 95 in Cork Ireland.
They finished off the weekend. Amazing :)

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Seamus Swift

News Today : "Suicidal twin kills sister by mistake!"

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: re:Kirsty (Opus)
Date: 14 Jan 1997 13:56:41 GMT



>    Either way it's the same sample. It's the same on both versions.
>Halcyon + On + On does have that one bit that's not in the other that
>comes in about 1:30,

Tis True! - agreed! :)

> but I think that's just them sampling her directly,
>and not taken from Opus 3..

The story behind Kirsty is that Paul/Phil were pals with Kirsty after she
had recorded some tracks in the Strongroom. P/P had asked her to record
something with them and she had agreed, but time and comitments stopped
her. So they sampled her voice from her existing tracks.

So there you go.... another usless but interesting fact.

Cheers

Steve LOOPZ Price
Orbital Zine

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From: Jon Green <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Underworld 'Spoon Deep'
Date: 14 Jan 1997 13:52:25 +0000

At 08:11 14/01/97 +0000, Geoffrey Elgey wrote:
>G'day
>
>>From: Jon Green <[e-mail]>
>>My favourite Underworld track is eithe rthe Lushh 3-3 mix, or the 'Spoon
>>Deep' mix of Dark and Long (18 minutes of heaven).
>
>'Spoon Deep' is actually a remix of 'Surfboy', not 'Dark & Long'

Well I had noticed it has large bits of Surfboy, as well as bits of Dogman
Go Woof, and loads of 'new' stuff, but I'm sure there's a bit at the end
from the original. It's credited on the 12" 'Dark 7 Long 2' as 'Spoon Deep'
on the sleeve and 'Spoon Deep mix' on the label, and with it being side A, I
assumed it's intended to be Dark and Long. I suppose it's relly a mixture of
tracks (perhaps a live recording?). I reckon there might be bits of Spoonman
in there too (hence the title)

> (although it does appear on the April Records 'Dark & Long' CD.

I presume that's a US release? It's only on 12" here in the UK as far as I
know. I'll have to look out for that CD on the import racks...

Has anybody else noticed how Underworld keep appearing on this list?


JOn


Jon Green: [e-mail]
"The less effort one puts in, the greater
satisfaction one gains from a good result"



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From: [e-mail]
Subject: re:Satan Live and Box
Date: 14 Jan 1997 14:03:19 GMT



>Sent by:Hans Lo <[e-mail]>
> Actually I have two questions.=20

>I was in London, England over the hollidays and I picked up all three
>Satan live for =A31.99 each. I haven't seen it over here in North America
>but I was wondering if it was released here yet. At the store where I
>picked up they had around 40 copies of each single, but they sold them
>all within a day. For some reason, singles just aren't as popular here
>in NA which is a shame.=20

No...its not being released in the US in this form, but read a further
email as soon as ive wrote it regarding the Us ep. (not LP anymore).

>The second question is concerning the single The Box. What is the second
>song called on that single? I haven't been able to find out from anyone.
>Was it just released on that one single? I've never heard it before last
>summer's Orbital tour.

Its 4 themes of The Box (no titles). The first is really an Edit (for
Radio purposes) and the last was a vocal test. But no titles.

Steve LOOPZ Price.

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: re:Re: Dwr Budr and other questions
Date: 14 Jan 1997 14:11:03 GMT


> Besides, are you doubting the
>brothers ability or are you saying they don't make their own samples.

>Morpheus

got to answer this one. They sometimes use other people samples and
sometimes they create their own. I doubt their ability sometimes ;)

Their ability to make nice coffee! :)))

Cheers

Steve LOOPZ Price
Orbital Zine

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: re:An idea
Date: 14 Jan 1997 14:19:00 GMT

You cant put attachments within the emails on this mailing list. Besides
Mods/3ms... can be big...and you wouldnt want to upset the modem people on
here (i dont give a ... im on T2) :)

But why dont u up it to a site and then we can all access your wonderful
talents...

Cheers
Steve LOOPZ Price
Orbital ZIne.

----------------------[Reply - Original Message]----------------------

Sent by:[e-mail]
 Hey since most of us are trakkers, why don't we throw some of our works
in
with the mail.  This way we can all hear each others traks.  The people
that
don't care, don't download.  Sound like a plan,  I can mail some of my
shit
too.
All trakkers comment.
Morpheus

=====================================================================

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: re:Re: (orbital) uk 2x12"
Date: 14 Jan 1997 14:26:25 GMT



----------------------[Reply - Original Message]----------------------

Sent by:[e-mail]


>     Satan's at no. 9 in the Irish charts....

>     The 12" is going for 3.99 here, same as the cds.


Satan BTW...is number 11 in the Radio 1 Charts and number 9 in the Channel
4 charts....

Steve

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: re:LOOPZ NEWS
Date: 14 Jan 1997 14:36:48 GMT

Just a bit of stuff...

Spoke to Jones just...he told me that the US live stuff is no longer a LP
but an EP (still no release date - could be a while).

Tracks that are penciled in (dont quote me):-

Satan (New York) / Halcyon (New York - with cheese!)

No others are pencilled at Time of Writing.

Thats all for now..

Steve LOOPZ Price
Orbital Zine.

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From: Keith Doran <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: In defense of Bjork
Date: 14 Jan 1997 14:40:33 +0000 (GMT)



On Mon, 13 Jan 1997, fanno wrote:

>
>
> On Mon, 13 Jan 1997, Anthony Agee wrote:
>
> > Listen to her albums Debut and Post and then tell me she sucks.  I guess
> > it's possible you might think so...but I always thought an Orbital fan
> > would like her.  oh well.
> >
> >
> > [e-mail]
> >
> I second that motion.  Bjork is far from overrated.  Anyone who can step
> out an icebowl such as Iceland and make a name for herself around the
> world should not be overlooked.  I mean, how many people paid attention to
> Iceland before the sugarcubes.  'Nuff said.
>   Jeff Fanno
>
>
For anybody who misunderstands Bjork, See her interview with Chris Evans
on TFI Friday about 9 months ago - charming to say the least.
By the way I thought this list was about Orbital

Keith.

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From: Keith Doran <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Satan Live
Date: 14 Jan 1997 14:56:24 +0000 (GMT)



On Sun, 12 Jan 1997, Hans Lo wrote:

> Actually I have two questions.=20
>=20
> I was in London, England over the hollidays and I picked up all three
> Satan live for =A31.99 each. I haven't seen it over here in North America
> but I was wondering if it was released here yet. At the store where I
> picked up they had around 40 copies of each single, but they sold them
> all within a day. For some reason, singles just aren't as popular here
> in NA which is a shame.=20
>=20
> The second question is concerning the single The Box. What is the second
> song called on that single? I haven't been able to find out from anyone.
> Was it just released on that one single? I've never heard it before last
> summer's Orbital tour.
>=20
Over here on the little island of Ireland, "SATAN" retails at =A34.99, is=
=20
it worth paying that ? A tenner for 2 cd's

Keith.

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From: [e-mail] (Sean Strout)
Subject: paper+tulips+satan+live++
Date: 14 Jan 1997 06:57:41 PST

Came across an orbital CD called "Paper Tulips" - Flipside #42,
Street Date July, 1992 at an internet cd shop.  Is
this really Radiccio/Halcyon or perhaps another group?

Satan-Live, amazing... but why did they record crowd noise?
Seems like everything they do is purely electronic,
so why did they have microphones... was this recorded
off a mixer board or open mic (sound too good to be
the latter)?

UK folks, what's the availability of your domestic Orbital 1?
Seems hard to locate over here.

peace,
-s.


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From: Hans Lo <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: London Orbital
Date: 13 Jan 1997 10:26:53 -0500

Seamus (James) Swift wrote:
>
> I was down in London yesterday and while was travelling along the M25 I
> thought, wouldn't it be great if Orbital did a track composed of sounds
> recorded while travelling around the London Orbital.

Actually, I visited London, England over the holidays, and when I was
taking the Aerobus from Heathrow to my Hostel, I had the single The Box
playing. Suddenly I remembered the video of the girl in London (I think
it was London) with all the traffic buzzing around her.

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: Re[4]: Some questions...
Date: 14 Jan 1997 16:29:25 GMT


>     Hmm... this means I'm going to have to go get it ordered, doesn't =
it? =20
>     Is it worth getting for the different versions of Fahrenheit * =
Speed=20
>     Freak?  & what's the last track like?

IMO Fahrenheit 3D3 is far far superior to Fahrenheit 303, but Steel
Cube Idolatry is just damned funky, and High Rise, although starts off
a little shaky, is absolutely wicked. Speed freak is just plain
weeeeeaaarrrd!!!!

BTW picked up Mu-Ziq's Bluff Limbo double CD today and I must say it
is fantastic, absolutely essential for anyone, especially an Orbital
fan, the way Michael Paradinas (Mu-Ziq) combines beautiful or funky
synths with MAAAAD beats is just amazing.

BTW Ive just got back from a BIG drinking sesh, so today is actually
tuesday, not Monday (so I bought the mu-ziq album yesterday...Today is
the 14 Jan and is my BIRTHDAY!!!!! for those nosey or just plain
interested I am 19 years old/young - depends on which way you look at
it!!! :)

hehehe I deleted ALL the drunken mistakes, believe me there were
plenty!!!! (hic!)

love you all very much....
take it easy
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From: "Vector Audax" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: FAQ...
Date: 14 Jan 1997 10:28:07 -0600

ooops.. wrong guy :P

vec

----------
> From: Vector Audax <[e-mail]>
> To: [e-mail]
> Subject: Re: FAQ...
> Date: January 13, 1997 11:53 PM
>
> i just finished going thru all your tracks that you sent me... oooh
god...
> you gotta give me something to do on stage, even if it is just air
playing
> on my NEW ROLAND JP8000 (when i get it).... No matter what price... when
it
> gets to Winnipeg, that puppy is mine... out comes the RRSP's and in comes
> the ecstacy!   It looks like everything i need to start really
> contributing.  That track was so f'in great... i piddled in my panties.
> shit shit shit!  i cant wait for your tape.... make sure it is good
> quality, eh?  no C-60 for this one.. this baby is going straight for the
> majors... and i am definately seeking out Mr. Clarke to get Airplay for
it.
>  Hot damn!
>
> I'll try to get some stuff off the internet... but i am going shopping
> later this week for a new soundcard... gotta get the full duplex thing
> working on my machine, and install my 6X CD ROM.  Ugghhh i need to play!
>
> Kelly
>
> ----------
> > From: [e-mail]
> > To: [e-mail]
> > Subject: Re: FAQ...
> > Date: January 13, 1997 12:08 PM
> >
> > In a message dated 13/01/97  13:54:35, you write:
> >
> > ">Maybe it's time for an FAQ with these URL's and some clarification on
> the
> >  >UK/US release differences? Any volunteers to help write it? Or don't
we
> > need
> >  >one after all?
> >
> >       Oh we need one.......!
> >
> >       Could answer the likes of:
> >
> >       1. Discography (US & UK) (Yep - it's on Loopz & more, but they
will
>
> >       ask again...and again...)"
> >
> >       Well, Lazlo will email his on request (right?) so maybe we could
> put in
> > email as well as the web urls. Wouldn't it be a bit large for a weekly
> FAQ?*
> >
> > "      2. Samples (details of any known ones, written in a special code
> which
> >
> >       only we can decipher, to keep evil royalty-grabbers at bay)"
> >
> > Hmm. Sounds a bit tricky. Any suggestions on *how* to do this?
Personally
> I
> > have a few of them from the early days of my website but where are the
> rest?
> >
> > "      3. Origins of track titles.
> >       4. Collaborators/remixers/vocalists..."
> >
> > Lots of work there. Maybe additions to the website(s) not in the FAQ?
> >
> > "      5. How do I get off this list etc... ;)"
> >
> > It's at the top of each digest, isn't it, but that's no use for those
on
> > message-by-message. Maybe owner-orbital could email the details once or
> week
> > or something?
> >
> > "      6. Upcoming tour dates
> >       7. Who's going to copy live blah blah for me please please...
> >       8. Best web pages.
> >       9. The brother's influences.
> >       10.What're they up to now?"
> >
> > 6 and 10 are probably best left to the Web (as they need updating too
> often
> > for an FAQ, possibly). 9 could be straightfoward (I've a largish chunk
of
> > interviews to base it on). 8 is a matter of opinion :O) Maybe we should
> poll
> > the list? (Let's agree to do it before swamping the list though?) As to
> 7, is
> > there a single answer?
> >
> > Maybe Q11 should be 'What other bands do Orbital fans like' which I
tried
> to
> > take care of but haven't been quick enough in following up (sorry to
all
> the
> > people who sent bands before Christmas who *still* aren't up there...)
> >
> > "      OK - now who wants to write the damn thing?!
> >
> >       Sandy"
> >
> > I'll certainly help; Steve and Lazlo aught to be in on this too. Where
> are
> > you? :O) Also, who *is* owner-orbital at the moment? I've referred to
> him/her
> > a lot in this email.
> >
> > * or should it be posted on subscription? What are the mechanics of
this-
> > will majordomo@xmission take care of this easily?
> >
> > Looking forward to lots of American discussion overnight.
> >
> > Paul. [e-mail].

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From: Jon Green <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Dwr Budr and other questions
Date: 14 Jan 1997 17:04:52 +0000

At 20:12 13/01/97 -0500, [e-mail] wrote:
>In a message dated 97-01-13 07:10:46 EST, you write:
>
><< I am sure they sampled the 'da da da da dah dee dah da dah ' bit right off
> the start, which, as far as I'm concerned, doesn't constitute words. >>
>
>Yah, but there is a lot of singing id Haclyon this is just a straight note.
> ex laaaaaaaa.
>Where was this found in It's a fine day?

If I have got the right end of the stick the bit you're referring to is
sampled from somewhere else, can't remember where, but I bet there's someone
(step forward, Steve!) who knows.

> Besides, are you doubting the
>brothers ability or are you saying they don't make their own samples.

Their ability is in absolutely no question. What do you mean by make their
own samples? Some bits are from other peoples records, others from the world
at large, and plenty they record for themselves (eg Aunty's vocals). A
sample is what the artist makes it.

JOn


Jon Green: [e-mail]
"The less effort one puts in, the greater
satisfaction one gains from a good result"



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From: "Anne L. Usion" <[e-mail]>
Subject: She shops, she scores!
Date: 14 Jan 1997 09:14:03 -0700

All 3 Orbital Satan Satan Satan singles.  Yippie!  I can die in peace.  I
LOVE Rhino Records in Claremont, CA...

hehehe...

I've also been seduced over to the dark side...Vidna Obmana, Steve Roach,
Uzect Plaush (and Paul Schutze)...all the Drone CDs...

So, if you like to chill or like to sleep to music and have nightmares...I
recommend them.

But, be sure to wiggle your butt off to Orbital first.

--Anne

_____________________________________________________________________________

Here comes the supernatural anesthetist
If he wants you to snuff it
All he has to do is puff it
--He's such a fine dancer!




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From: ERLEND <[e-mail]>
Subject: Orbital mod's online?????
Date: 14 Jan 1997 18:09:30 -0800

Does anyone know where i can get Orbital Mod/xm/s3m files????
Please tell me!!

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From: Jon Green <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: noyclaH
Date: 14 Jan 1997 17:10:00 +0000

At 20:38 13/01/97 -0500, [e-mail] wrote:

>That is what I'm talking about.  It's a fine day has all words.  Even if they
>are reversed, you would be able to here something which sounds remotely like
>words, but in most of Halcyon you can't even hear that.  Besides all I'm
>saying is that the brothers are very good at manipulating samples.

Not all in It's a fine day is words, some of it is just vocals that don't
carry a message. That's the bit used in Halcyon. You're dead right, they are
very good indeed at manipulating samples. I'd never have guessed the Madonna
sample on Chime Crime if I'd not been told it was her, for example. That's a
mark of a well manipulated sample, you can't tell what it was in the first
place. Avoids legal problems too, I suppose....

Jon


Jon Green: [e-mail]
"The less effort one puts in, the greater
satisfaction one gains from a good result"



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From: Jon Green <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Satan Live
Date: 14 Jan 1997 17:12:08 +0000

At 22:42 13/01/97 -0600, Ravis1 wrote:
>Check Autechre singles.  Now there's some unrecognizable versions of the
>same song.
>

Lots of bands pretend that completely different tracks are remixes to get
round the stupid UK chart rules.




Jon Green: [e-mail]
"The less effort one puts in, the greater
satisfaction one gains from a good result"



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From: Jon Green <[e-mail]>
Subject: The box part two
Date: 14 Jan 1997 17:15:01 +0000

At 21:52 12/01/97 -0500, Hans Lo wrote:
>> What "second song"?  The only thing on the single for The Box are the four
>> parts of The Box . . .
>
>Well I thought it was a dinstinctly unique song different than the Box.
>The 1st 3rd and 4th tracks are all remixes of the Box, but the second is
>totally new. It's not like it was on In Sides.
>

I reckon that part two on the single has the same (or similar) drum track to
the first part on the album.

jon


Jon Green: [e-mail]
"The less effort one puts in, the greater
satisfaction one gains from a good result"



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From: [e-mail]
Subject: re:Re: London Orbital
Date: 14 Jan 1997 17:20:30 GMT

>>>>>>
Actually, I visited London, England over the holidays, and when I was
taking the Aerobus from Heathrow to my Hostel, I had the single The Box
playing. Suddenly I remembered the video of the girl in London (I think
it was London) with all the traffic buzzing around her.
>>>>>>

Yep...it was recorded up the road from the studio....off Bishopsgate and
that.

Steve LOOPZ Price

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (orbital) select web
Date: 14 Jan 1997 12:55:26 -0500 (EST)

There's a smallish, vaguely out-of-date feature on Select at
http://www.erack.com/select/

Requires frames, sunglasses, and the ability not to get upset when Javascript
launches a new browser window without asking first.

First draft of the FAQ tomorrow, hopefully.

paul mison. monsters exist.


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From: Aleksandra Adamovic <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Underworld 'Spoon Deep'
Date: 14 Jan 1997 19:30:08 +0100 (MET)

>
> Has anybody else noticed how Underworld keep appearing on this list?
>
  Did not till you mentioned THIS is an Orbital one...I actually thought
  this one's comeing from UW's dirtylist...well


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From: Hans Lo <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Satan Live
Date: 13 Jan 1997 13:33:44 -0500

> Over here on the little island of Ireland, "SATAN" retails at ú4.99, is
> it worth paying that ? A tenner for 2 cd's

IT depends on how much you like Satan and all of the other b-sides. It's
definately worth the ú1.99 each that I paid for it. I got it at Tower
Records at Picadilly Circus in London.

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (orbital) uk 2x12"
Date: 14 Jan 1997 18:45:13 GMT

I thought someone would have said by now, but the extra track is not
hidden at all, I'll give you a clue, it's tagged on the end of Out
There Somewhere? so you should all now know what it is. Must admit I
was looking for a seperate cut on the vinyl, but it's part of an
existing track.
=46or those who still don't know, it's Choice.

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: True Meaning??
Date: 14 Jan 1997 18:45:24 GMT


>I see it as being War and the acts of destruction... The Video images at
>their performance at Deck the Halls Ball in Seattle would attest to =
this,


who gives a toss what it's about, it's just a choon that kicks, I
thnik it's just a bit of fun myself, a little humour, some people take
this music far too seriously...

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From: Jason Broome <[e-mail]>
Subject: the day called tuesday...
Date: 14 Jan 1997 18:45:11 +0000

Ladies and Gentlemen of the Orbital mailing list it is my duty to inform
you that it is my 21st birthday today! AND while listening to the live
orbital gig thing that Chris Herz posted the address for some time ago I
have just be accosted(no other word for it!) by a semi-naked women,
otherwise knows as a strip-o-gram.

May I state that while in the total entertainment zone, which is
Orbital, it is an....interesting experience to be striped naked and made
to take the clothes off a women you have never met before  while
listening to what sounded like a fantastic orbital show.

It provided an interesting background noise to a totally humiliating
experience. I do hope that no "flamming" occurs due to this post, but
quite frankly I can't think stright due to the massive amount of alcohol
that was consumed at the pub at lunch.

In the moments that I was able to listen to the gig I thought that the
version of "The Box" was simply awsome.

Thanks a lot for the posting Chris, anything else of a similar nature
would be recieved with the same spirit...I just cannot get enough of the
P&P brothers, gimme more!!

love and stuff
        (an extreemly drunk) Jason
--
Jason Broome
Software Engineer

Life is sweet and so is the tea.
Keep it clean and keep it green!

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From: Hans Lo <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) uk 2x12"
Date: 13 Jan 1997 13:55:24 -0500

[e-mail] wrote:
>
> Assuming.... :)
>
> There is a hidden track like i said b4 Christmas (this one aint no
> rumour!) ;)
>
> Another thing to mention...is shop around....only the big boys are selling
> it at 5.99...ive seen it for sale for 1.99 in Riochet for example.
>

I got it at Tower for ú1.99. Where's the hidden tracks though?

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From: Shaun Rader <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: satan+live++
Date: 14 Jan 1997 11:34:55 -0800

Sean Strout[SMTP:[e-mail]] wrote:

> Satan-Live, amazing... but why did they record crowd noise?
> Seems like everything they do is purely electronic,
> so why did they have microphones... was this recorded
> off a mixer board or open mic (sound too good to be
> the latter)?

I'm no expert but I would assume it was off a mixer board
because I've heard what their concerts sound like from
the open mic's (on the radio I believe) and it sounds pretty
weak compared to this.

The internet broadcasts never have crowd noise, so I wonder
why they decided to have them on the CDs.  Maybe they
were afraid people wouldn't believe that they were live versions
without the crowd noise?

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From: Shaun Rader <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: She shops, she scores!
Date: 14 Jan 1997 11:40:12 -0800

Anne L. Usion[SMTP:[e-mail]] wrote:

> All 3 Orbital Satan Satan Satan singles.  Yippie!  I can die in peace.  I
> LOVE Rhino Records in Claremont, CA...

I swear I thought I was reading my own post.  I thought I
posted that I loved Rhino Records in Claremont!  I think I
was going to but I never posted it.. How far from Rhino do
you live anyway?  It's only a 10 minute drive for me.

I've gotten almost all of my Orbital stuff from Rhino.. they
get it within a week!  I got my copies last Friday night and
they had about 2 more of each when I left.


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From: Shaun Rader <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: LOOPZ NEWS
Date: 14 Jan 1997 11:45:28 -0800

[e-mail] wrote:

> Spoke to Jones just...he told me that the US live stuff is no longer a LP
> but an EP (still no release date - could be a while).
>
> Tracks that are penciled in (dont quote me):-
>
> Satan (New York) / Halcyon (New York - with cheese!)

Please put Dwr Budr!  That sounds so great live!  It seems
that the brothers don't really like this track or something...

I knew that long LP was too good to be true!  I think they
should just go for the gold and release a double cd of
the whole concert.  Now that would be awesome (without
the crowd noises of course!)..

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From: Shaun Rader <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (orbital) uk 2x12"
Date: 14 Jan 1997 12:03:25 -0800

[e-mail] wrote:

> For those who still don't know, it's Choice.

Does this mean that the record version of the Satan Live
is just like Disc 1 but with Choice after OTSW?  Cool, I
wonder if I could find this one somewhere (even though
I hate records..).

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From: "Anthony Agee" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: She shops, she scores!
Date: 14 Jan 1997 17:02:26 -0600


> I swear I thought I was reading my own post.  I thought I
> posted that I loved Rhino Records in Claremont!  I think I
> was going to but I never posted it.. How far from Rhino do
> you live anyway?  It's only a 10 minute drive for me.
>
> I've gotten almost all of my Orbital stuff from Rhino.. they
> get it within a week!  I got my copies last Friday night and
> they had about 2 more of each when I left.
>
>
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Hey next time you're in Rhino records could you ask them if they could ship
some stuff to Kansas for me?? Pretty please!!


[e-mail]

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: True Meaning??
Date: 14 Jan 1997 16:14:37 -0800 (PST)

>
>>I see it as being War and the acts of destruction... The Video images at
>>their performance at Deck the Halls Ball in Seattle would attest to this,
>
>
>who gives a toss what it's about, it's just a choon that kicks, I
>thnik it's just a bit of fun myself, a little humour, some people take
>this music far too seriously...
>
>
Oddly enough I agree even though your response was to my original posting.
I think that if you look too hard at the meaning of something then the
original feelings you had for it, what ever "it" is, are muddled by the
complexities of figuring it out...  Great track though

-/|\-/|\-/|\-/|\-/|\-/|\-/|\-/|\-/|\-/|\-/|\-/|\-/|\-/|\-/|\-

Aaron Thomas
[e-mail]
Undergraduate Majoring in Computing Science
Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C. Canada

-/|\-/|\-/|\-/|\-/|\-/|\-/|\-/|\-/|\-/|\-/|\-/|\-/|\-/|\-/|\-


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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: Orbital vs. ????
Date: 14 Jan 1997 19:21:53 -0500 (EST)

I still think Orbital with Kraftwerk would be cool.

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From: Shaun Rader <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: She shops, she scores!
Date: 14 Jan 1997 17:37:06 -0800

Anthony Agee[SMTP:[e-mail]] wrote:

> Hey next time you're in Rhino records could you ask them if they could ship
> some stuff to Kansas for me?? Pretty please!!

That would be nice, but I bet you that would end up being just
as much as buying the CDs from CDNow over the Internet!  The
imports over here are $10 and they're about $12.95 on CDNow.
Have you tried CDNow?  I've ordered many things from them
(they have a GREAT selection) and they haven't let me down..

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From: Sproston Green <[e-mail]>
Subject: Live Satan Info/Pix
Date: 14 Jan 1997 21:05:42 -0500

Orbital Listers,

I've scanned the three new 'satan live' UK releases and put up a
page on the web with the pictures and tracks.  The page is a bit
graphics intensive so patience is in order unless you're on a T1
like our lucky m8 LOOPZ ;).  Email me if u find any mistakes.

The URL is : http://www.tiac.net/users/jrobin/satan.html

My opinion of these releases is as follows.  The crowd noise
must go (even the 'bring on mfing bonjovi' boy).  Favorites
are Impact (by far), Satan (on cd2), and Lush 3 probably
because these tunes seem to have the most variation from
the album versions.  Now go out and get them.

Lateron.

S p r o s t o n  G r e e n
   [e-mail]
      http://www.tiac.net/users/jrobin/


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From: Ernesto Perez <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Orbital vs. Underworld
Date: 14 Jan 1997 21:01:30 -0600

[e-mail] wrote:
>
> In a message dated 97-01-12 16:54:26 EST, you write:
>
> << ts a bit boring could someone please
>  point me in the way of a some good CJ material please? >>
> Electronic Highway by Bolland is my fav cd right now.........excellent...and
> much better than that Sugar single.

his best stuff is the 4th sign release on r&s records, by far the most
creative techno this man has created. after that he has been trying to
play catch up with himself.

dj ernie

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: An idea
Date: 14 Jan 1997 22:56:13 -0800

[e-mail] wrote:
>
> Hey since most of us are trakkers, why don't we throw some of our works in
> with the mail.  This way we can all hear each others traks.  The people that
> don't care, don't download.  Sound like a plan,  I can mail some of my shit
> too.
> All trakkers comment.
> Morpheus


sounds good to me.
wes

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From: "Ravis1" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: She shops, she scores!
Date: 14 Jan 1997 22:18:04 -0600

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>
> > Hey next time you're in Rhino records could you ask them if they could
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>
> That would be nice, but I bet you that would end up being just
> as much as buying the CDs from CDNow over the Internet!  The
> imports over here are $10 and they're about $12.95 on CDNow.
> Have you tried CDNow?  I've ordered many things from them
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From: Albert Rivera <[e-mail]>
Subject: Rhino Records
Date: 14 Jan 1997 21:18:27 -0800

Rhino Records is my desperation store.  It pretty much sucks.  I only go
there because I don't feel like driving out to L.A. by myself.  I've been
waiting for the satan singles for weeks, and Rhino finally just got them.
They never have enough of anything.  Their special ordering isn't very
efficient either.  I still haven't gotten the Thrill Kill Kult album that I
ordered months ago.  Don't ever ask them anything about imports. They never
know.   If you have the time and gas, go to Virgin at Ontario Mills.  It's a
lot more crowded, but they usually get imports a lot quicker.


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From: "Lazlo Nibble" <[e-mail]>
Subject: re:True Meaning??
Date: 14 Jan 1997 22:24:56 -0700 (MST)

[e-mail] writes:

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Steve, do you just do this to be mysterious or is there some larger point
behind it? :-)

--
::: Lazlo ([e-mail]; http://www.swcp.com/lazlo)

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From: "Lazlo Nibble" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Underworld 'Spoon Deep'
Date: 14 Jan 1997 22:26:40 -0700 (MST)

>> (although it does appear on the April Records 'Dark & Long' CD.
>
> I presume that's a US release?

No, Norwegian unfortunately.  (Unfortunately because it runs in the $25+
range when I see it here in the US.)

--
::: Lazlo ([e-mail]; http://www.swcp.com/lazlo)

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From: ^EA^ <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: True Meaning??
Date: 15 Jan 1997 00:57:24 -0800

Lazlo Nibble wrote:
>
> [e-mail] writes:
>
> > begin 600 attach.Z
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>
> Steve, do you just do this to be mysterious or is there some larger point
> behind it? :-)

If you look at it in the mirror with the sun in your right eye reading
it backwards between the lines i do believe it's the lyrics to the
hidden track on the 12" Satan live....correct me if i wrong


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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: Dwr Budr and other questions
Date: 15 Jan 1997 01:29:38 -0500 (EST)

In a message dated 97-01-14 09:14:11 EST, you write:

<< got to answer this one. They sometimes use other people samples and
 sometimes they create their own. I doubt their ability sometimes ;) >>

yah, but they most likely change them in some way.

Morpheus

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: An idea
Date: 15 Jan 1997 01:30:31 -0500 (EST)

In a message dated 97-01-14 09:20:03 EST, you write:

<< You cant put attachments within the emails on this mailing list. Besides
 Mods/3ms... can be big...and you wouldnt want to upset the modem people on
 here (i dont give a ... im on T2) :)

 But why dont u up it to a site and then we can all access your wonderful
 talents... >>

ok, but first I need a sight.  Can you recommend any?

Morpheus

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: Dwr Budr and other questions
Date: 15 Jan 1997 01:34:05 -0500 (EST)

In a message dated 97-01-14 12:16:51 EST, you write:

<< Their ability is in absolutely no question. What do you mean by make their
 own samples? Some bits are from other peoples records, others from the world
 at large, and plenty they record for themselves (eg Aunty's vocals). A
 sample is what the artist makes it. >>

I mean that most samples start from somewhere, and the artist will slightly
change that sample to make it their own.  I think you may be right with that
part about the sample coming from somewhere else.

Morpheus

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Virgin
Date: 15 Jan 1997 01:44:56 -0500 (EST)

I am so happy that a Virgin Music Store finally opened in Vancouver.
 Hopefully they will carry a good variety of Orbital disks.  I'm going to
chack it out this weekend.

Morpheus

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (orbital) FAQ
Date: 15 Jan 1997 03:45:59 -0500 (EST)

Went a bit mad last night, managed to write a thumping great document and
still had some answers to put in. It's a little big to dump on the list, so
I've put it on the web at http://members.aol.com/pmison/ofaq.htm

As it says at the bottom, once it's finished, the more widely available it is
the better. It's also still completely up for discussion.

Cheers, Paul.

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: re:True Meaning??
Date: 15 Jan 1997 8:58:47 GMT

Shit....

Mail server is playing up again....cant remember what i put neither :)

Sorry folks

Steve Loopz Price.
Orbital Zine

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Steve, do you just do this to be mysterious or is there some larger point
behind it? :-)

--
::: Lazlo ([e-mail]; http://www.swcp.com/lazlo)

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Subject: re:Re: True Meaning??
Date: 15 Jan 1997 9:20:43 GMT

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From: Shaun Rader <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: Virgin
Date: 15 Jan 1997 00:56:44 -0800

[e-mail] wrote:

> I am so happy that a Virgin Music Store finally opened in Vancouver.
>  Hopefully they will carry a good variety of Orbital disks.  I'm going to
> chack it out this weekend.

As for these discussions on Virgin, I'm not too impressed with
their selection.  I have been to one in Newport Beach and the
one in Ontario (CA) and I have never seen any Orbital imports
there.  A while back they used to be on top of things but I
think they get imports very late.  Rhino Records may take a
week or two but at least they get the imports!  Good luck finding
rare stuff guys!

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: Feile 95
Date: 15 Jan 1997 09:51:17 -0500

     That was one of the most unforgettable experiences of my life!!   You
     be I was there!

     Sandy.


______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________
Author:  "Seamus (James) Swift" <[e-mail]> at Internet2


Did anyone see Orbital at Feile 95 in Cork Ireland.
They finished off the weekend. Amazing :)

.............................................................
            mailto:[e-mail]
 http://www.griffin.co.uk/users/whois

Seamus Swift

News Today : "Suicidal twin kills sister by mistake!"

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re[2]: True Meaning??
Date: 15 Jan 1997 10:11:22 -0500

>who gives a toss what it's about, it's just a choon that kicks, I
>thnik it's just a bit of fun myself, a little humour, some people
>take this music far too seriously...

yeah, but haven't you ever been _curious_??! ;>

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re[2]: Satan Live
Date: 15 Jan 1997 10:41:04 -0500

     eg. Born Slippy:NUXX v's Born Slippy.....


______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________
Author:  Jon Green <[e-mail]> at Internet2


At 22:42 13/01/97 -0600, Ravis1 wrote:
>Check Autechre singles.  Now there's some unrecognizable versions of the
>same song.
>

Lots of bands pretend that completely different tracks are remixes to get
round the stupid UK chart rules.




Jon Green: [e-mail]
"The less effort one puts in, the greater
satisfaction one gains from a good result"



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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Dead Cities
Date: 15 Jan 1997 07:10:27 -0500 (EST)

Ok, boys & girls, I think I've found our next vocal to argue about =)  In the
song "Dead Cities," what is the guy saying near the end?  I can make out
something like "This place used to be like Camelot,"  then the next part is
totally unintelligible, and at the very end, "Make me believe I'm not going
to die."  Anyone want to argue w/me? =)

Matt

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: atari teenage riot
Date: 15 Jan 1997 07:21:27 -0500 (EST)

Ryan, I totally agree with what you said--I am glad that MTV did play the ATR
song, just so I'd know I didn't like it...I had heard some good things about
ATR, but it's just not my style.  However, I will say that the song has grown
on me...I don't hate it anymore, but I don't think it'll ever be a fave of
mine =)

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Autechre
Date: 15 Jan 1997 07:27:06 -0500 (EST)

Ok, I've been hearing a lot about Autechre here recently--can someone point
me in the direction of some of his better work?  I've only heard "Second Bad
Vilbel," and one or two other songs from him...he kinda reminds me of
Aphex...does the rest of his stuff sound like that?

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From: Jon Green <[e-mail]>
Subject: cheat track titles
Date: 15 Jan 1997 12:58:58 +0000

At 10:41 15/01/97 -0500, [e-mail] wrote:
>>Lots of bands pretend that completely different tracks are remixes to get
>>round the stupid UK chart rules.

>eg. Born Slippy:NUXX v's Born Slippy.....

Precisely who I was thinking of.... What about the "Born Slippy.NUXX,Darren
Price remix" on the CD single? That's Banstyle if I'm not mistaken.
If only Orbital had pulled a similar trick on the live CDs, they could have
had nearly twice as much music on them.

Jon


Jon Green: [e-mail]
"The less effort one puts in, the greater
satisfaction one gains from a good result"



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From: Sproston Green <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Autechre
Date: 10 Jan 1997 08:03:14 -0500

At 07:27 AM 1/15/97 -0500, [e-mail] wrote:
>Ok, I've been hearing a lot about Autechre here recently--can someone point
>me in the direction of some of his better work?  I've only heard "Second Bad
>Vilbel," and one or two other songs from him...he kinda reminds me of
>Aphex...does the rest of his stuff sound like that?

Autechre are two guys - Sean Booth and Rob Brown.  SBV is on the
'anvil vapre' ep but starting out i would pick up their debut
'incunabula' and work forward.  Their sound set has changed
somewhat over the years but I think incunabula is a classic (IMO).

Here's a web page with more information....

http://www.public.iastate.edu/~brezovan/ae/ae.html

Lateron.

S p r o s t o n  G r e e n
   [e-mail]
      http://www.tiac.net/users/jrobin/


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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: In defense of Bjork
Date: 15 Jan 1997 08:17:34 -0500 (EST)

In a message dated 97-01-13 20:43:05 EST, you write:

<< I think Bjork is at her best since she left Sugarcubes...

 I am anxiously awaiting her new CD - in stores tomorrow! >>
Oh yeah!!  Just picked it up yesterday!!  I love the new mix of
Hyperballad...only problems I have w/the CD are a) it's pretty much all
remixes, and b) the vocals were pretty much completely removed from Army of
Me and Enjoy, even tho those are good remixes.

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: An idea
Date: 15 Jan 1997 08:24:08 -0500 (EST)

I've just gotten started trakking, but I'll go w/this idea once I get some
decent trax going.....I'd much rather hear opinions from informed people
anyway =)

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: Underworld 'Spoon Deep'
Date: 15 Jan 1997 08:39:21 -0500 (EST)

While we're talking about this whole mess, I'm going to admit a little
Underworld ignorance here and tell you that I don't own
"dubnobasswithmyheadman," and have only heard it a few times, so what I'm
saying at times here may sound ignorant.

Anyway, on AMP the other night, I saw a video for Spoonman, and I swore that
it was the "dark train" mix of Dark + Long.....are these virtually the same
track, or did MTV screw up?   Maybe I sound like a moron here, but I wanna
know =)

Thanx,
Matt

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: In defense of Bjork
Date: 15 Jan 1997 08:45:09 -0500 (EST)

In a message dated 97-01-14 09:44:34 EST, you write:

<< For anybody who misunderstands Bjork, See her interview with Chris Evans
 on TFI Friday about 9 months ago - charming to say the least.
 By the way I thought this list was about Orbital
  >>
What?  Everything on the list has to be about Orbital now??  I love Orbital,
but talking about em non-stop'd get a little boring, don't ya think?

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From: lysergic ad naseum <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: An idea
Date: 15 Jan 1997 08:09:30 -0600

along the same vein, if anyone is interested in music created by yours
truly, there are online samples available on my website under the 'music of
the lysergic dream' link...  not very dancy but it might appeal to those
with more ambient experimental sensibilities...


                http://hudson.idt.net/~lyserg19


                                        -lysergic

At 08:24 AM 1/15/97 -0500, [e-mail] wrote:
>I've just gotten started trakking, but I'll go w/this idea once I get some
>decent trax going.....I'd much rather hear opinions from informed people
>anyway =)
>
>


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From: lysergic ad naseum <[e-mail]>
Subject: satan live eps at cdnow
Date: 15 Jan 1997 08:24:30 -0600

in case anyone is looking, the satan eps are now at cdnow for $12.49 apeice...

        http://www.cdnow.com


                                so there...


                                                -lysergic


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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re[2]: True Meaning??
Date: 15 Jan 1997 12:51:52 -0500




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Shit....

Mail server is playing up again....cant remember what i put neither :)

Sorry folks

Steve Loopz Price.
Orbital Zine


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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (orbital) FAQ
Date: 15 Jan 1997 13:01:53 -0500

     Cool - well done!
     No doubt there will be more soon...


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Went a bit mad last night, managed to write a thumping great document and
still had some answers to put in. It's a little big to dump on the list, so
I've put it on the web at http://members.aol.com/pmison/ofaq.htm

As it says at the bottom, once it's finished, the more widely available it is
the better. It's also still completely up for discussion.

Cheers, Paul.

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: Autechre
Date: 15 Jan 1997 13:45:37 -0500

     Go get Inculabula!  Awesome album and becoming one of my favs.  Got
     that other one with the completely blank silver cover and have
     forgotten the name of it (after only 3 days), but that doesn't go to
     say that the cd itself's forgettable!  Getting to love this one even
     more than Inculabula.  AND.... there's another one - Amber which is
     meant to be their best, but I haven't heard all of it yet, though.
     Well worth getting anything by them if you're into Orbital


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Ok, I've been hearing a lot about Autechre here recently--can someone point
me in the direction of some of his better work?  I've only heard "Second Bad
Vilbel," and one or two other songs from him...he kinda reminds me of
Aphex...does the rest of his stuff sound like that?

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From: Hans Lo <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: satan live eps at cdnow
Date: 15 Jan 1997 11:25:27 -0500 (EST)

> in case anyone is looking, the satan eps are now at cdnow for $12.49 apeice...
>
>         http://www.cdnow.com

    Yikes! expensive! That's US$ I assume too. Is that the the price
for each disc of the three part version or the single disc version?


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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: the day called tuesday...
Date: 15 Jan 1997 17:09:11 GMT

 hey it's my birthday today as well!!!!!
I am exactly two years younger than you are today, the 14th january!!


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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (orbital) uk 2x12"
Date: 15 Jan 1997 17:09:07 GMT


>Does this mean that the record version of the Satan Live
>is just like Disc 1 but with Choice after OTSW?  Cool, I

yes.

>wonder if I could find this one somewhere (even though
>I hate records..).

argh!! how can you hate vinyl? it's just pure sex...
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From: [e-mail]
Subject: U-ziq
Date: 15 Jan 1997 12:28:57 -0500 (EST)

Hey everyone...I have been hearing about U-ziq a lot (or music if ya call it
that).
I have heard one track "swan vesta" and loved it...is all their stuff like
this? i found two of their cds at the store but i am not sure the entire
sound of them (or him)...
anyone got opinions/facts/stuff to help?

also, i just picked up a double cd called "logical progression" by ltj
bukem...its a compilation of drum 'n bass that kicks...some stuff is like
orbital, underworld (newer stuff) and some is very melodic...

jamei

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: re:Re: An idea
Date: 15 Jan 1997 17:40:36 GMT

how about Ftp.microsoft.com.

;)))))

Steve

----------------------[Reply - Original Message]----------------------

Sent by:[e-mail]
 In a message dated 97-01-14 09:20:03 EST, you write:

<< You cant put attachments within the emails on this mailing list.
Besides
 Mods/3ms... can be big...and you wouldnt want to upset the modem people
on
 here (i dont give a ... im on T2) :)

 But why dont u up it to a site and then we can all access your wonderful
 talents... >>

ok, but first I need a sight.  Can you recommend any?

Morpheus

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: re:Re: In defense of Bjork
Date: 15 Jan 1997 17:46:05 GMT



>What?  Everything on the list has to be about Orbital now??  I love
>Orbital,
>but talking about em non-stop'd get a little boring, don't ya think?

You must be joking....i Eat Orbital , I digest Orbital ....blah blah.

Depends i suppose what aspects of Orbital we are talking about...the
Halcyon sample discussion has started smelling a bit...its caught in a
loop if yaknow what i mean

Cheers
SteveLOOPZPRice

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: re:Re: satan live eps at cdnow
Date: 15 Jan 1997 17:47:38 GMT

Ive still got a few cds left if anyone wants to beat the import prices.

Mail me privatly...

Cheers

Steve LOOPZ PRice

----------------------[Reply - Original Message]----------------------

Sent by:Hans Lo <[e-mail]>
 > in case anyone is looking, the satan eps are now at cdnow for $12.49
apeice...
>
>         http://www.cdnow.com

    Yikes! expensive! That's US$ I assume too. Is that the the price
for each disc of the three part version or the single disc version?


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From: [e-mail]
Subject: re:U-ziq
Date: 15 Jan 1997 17:49:36 GMT

I saw U-ziq last month supporting Aphex Twin (ive seen him supp Orbital as
well a year back). His old stuff is a lot better.
The whole gig was drum and bass but with ridiculous speedy raps...i think
he has lost it....

But Aphex (who i know has lost it!) appeared to be calmer. :)

Steve LOOPZ PRice

----------------------[Reply - Original Message]----------------------

Sent by:[e-mail]
 Hey everyone...I have been hearing about U-ziq a lot (or music if ya call
it
that).
I have heard one track "swan vesta" and loved it...is all their stuff like
this? i found two of their cds at the store but i am not sure the entire
sound of them (or him)...
anyone got opinions/facts/stuff to help?

also, i just picked up a double cd called "logical progression" by ltj
bukem...its a compilation of drum 'n bass that kicks...some stuff is like
orbital, underworld (newer stuff) and some is very melodic...

jamei

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From: Jonathan Hera <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: In defense of Bjork
Date: 15 Jan 1997 13:23:10 -0500 (EST)

    i am going to see tricky on thursday in toronto.  bjork is also
here releasing/promoting Telegram and will also be there.  sorry not info,
just getting excited about going

On Wed, 15 Jan 1997 [e-mail] wrote:

> In a message dated 97-01-13 20:43:05 EST, you write:
>
> << I think Bjork is at her best since she left Sugarcubes...
>
>  I am anxiously awaiting her new CD - in stores tomorrow! >>
> Oh yeah!!  Just picked it up yesterday!!  I love the new mix of
> Hyperballad...only problems I have w/the CD are a) it's pretty much all
> remixes, and b) the vocals were pretty much completely removed from Army of
> Me and Enjoy, even tho those are good remixes.
>


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From: Joona =?iso-8859-1?Q?P=94yh=94nen?=  <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Satan Live
Date: 15 Jan 1997 20:28:05 +0200 (EET)

At 14.56 14.1.1997 +0000, you wrote:
>
>
>On Sun, 12 Jan 1997, Hans Lo wrote:
>
>> Actually I have two questions.=20
>>=20
>> I was in London, England over the hollidays and I picked up all three
>> Satan live for =A31.99 each. I haven't seen it over here in North America
>> but I was wondering if it was released here yet. At the store where I
>> picked up they had around 40 copies of each single, but they sold them
>> all within a day. For some reason, singles just aren't as popular here
>> in NA which is a shame.=20
>>=20
>> The second question is concerning the single The Box. What is the second
>> song called on that single? I haven't been able to find out from anyone.
>> Was it just released on that one single? I've never heard it before last
>> summer's Orbital tour.
>>=20
>Over here on the little island of Ireland, "SATAN" retails at =A34.99, is=
=20
>it worth paying that ? A tenner for 2 cd's

I was just wondering is Orbital popular in Ireland?


joona p=F6yh=F6nen
[e-mail]
Tapiolan Honka, Espoo


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From: Shaun Rader <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (orbital) uk 2x12"
Date: 15 Jan 1997 10:29:04 -0800

[e-mail] wrote:

> argh!! how can you hate vinyl? it's just pure sex...

What is the fascination with vinyl?  Other than DJ'ing I don't
see a benefit.  They don't sound as good, they don't last
forever, you have to turn it over to side '2', etc.  I've even heard
people say that vinyl sounds better than CD, is this just a
myth?  I just don't see how that could be true!

Should I get the "In Sides" vinyl just as a collectors
item?  It's quite expensive but the packaging looks nice..

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From: Hermespan <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Underworld 'Spoon Deep'
Date: 15 Jan 1997 19:11:41 +0000

>>
>> Has anybody else noticed how Underworld keep appearing on this list?
>>
>  Did not till you mentioned THIS is an Orbital one...I actually thought
>  this one's comeing from UW's dirtylist...well


Underworld have a mailing list??????

please tell


-----Elvis, Fresh meat and a little Whipped Cream--------



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From: Aaron Murray <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) uk 2x12"
Date: 15 Jan 1997 13:25:26 -0600

Shaun Rader wrote:
> I've even heard
> people say that vinyl sounds better than CD, is this just a
> myth?  I just don't see how that could be true!
>

actually, vinyl DOES sound better than CD.. a study was conducted on
that.. they found that vinyl actually produced sound taht was more
pleasing to the human ear than CD sound.. the original CDs were so
noise-free, that people couldn't stand to listen to them..  they
actually had to lower the sound quality of CDs to make them bearable to
the hearing..  so to the human ear, CDs sound much more synthetic than
vinyl..

            aaron

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From: Hermespan <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: satan+live++
Date: 15 Jan 1997 19:11:37 +0000

I beleive they were recorded from the mixing desk as if you listne
carefully to the end of Impact on the third single you can hear a very
muffled Thank you and good night through a Mic which obviously didn't go
throught the mixing tracks that were recorded, listen to it and you'll see
what i mean.

I have had no trouble buying the satan singles infact i almost bought them
all twice its that fucking good, i would have thought you yanks would have
it easy buying orbital stuff seen as thought theree much bigger there than
they are here

:)

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From: lysergic ad naseum <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: satan live eps at cdnow
Date: 15 Jan 1997 15:25:14 -0600


>    Yikes! expensive! That's US$ I assume too. Is that the the price
>for each disc of the three part version or the single disc version?
>

thats for each disc... my advice is to find a really cool person in england
and prevail upon them as it would work out cheaper...

:)
                                                -lysergic


>
>


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From: Greg Liu <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Autechre
Date: 15 Jan 1997 13:33:18 -0800 (PST)

Get Tri Repetae...i believe it is their latest but it is still about a
year old.  They also have an alias under the name of Gescom.  What I have
actually heard of them is pretty good, but haven't heard a whole lot of
Gescom to tell you the truth.

Greg

On Wed, 15 Jan 1997 [e-mail] wrote:

> Ok, I've been hearing a lot about Autechre here recently--can someone point
> me in the direction of some of his better work?  I've only heard "Second Bad
> Vilbel," and one or two other songs from him...he kinda reminds me of
> Aphex...does the rest of his stuff sound like that?
>


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From: [e-mail] (Deborah Brooks)
Subject: Re: In defense of Bjork
Date: 15 Jan 1997 17:59:39 -0500

Please tell us about the tricky/bjork show

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From: Hans Lo <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Satan Live
Date: 14 Jan 1997 18:13:01 -0500

>
> I was just wondering is Orbital popular in Ireland?

    Hmm, I wouldn't know. I'm a Canadian that was visiting London.

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From: Hans Lo <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: satan+live++
Date: 14 Jan 1997 18:15:21 -0500

> I have had no trouble buying the satan singles infact i almost bought them
> all twice its that fucking good, i would have thought you yanks would have
> it easy buying orbital stuff seen as thought theree much bigger there than
> they are here

Are you serious? You think Orbital is bigger in the USA than they are in
the UK? What makes you say that? Far more people know of Orbital in the
UK than in North America even. Most people I meet haven't even ever
heard of Orbital.

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Subject: V.IMPORTANT
Date: 15 Jan 1997 23:37:01 GMT Standard Time

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: Re[2]: True Meaning??
Date: 15 Jan 1997 23:36:45 GMT


>yeah, but haven't you ever been _curious_??! ;>

to be perfectly honest, as regards to satan, no I am not curious coz
it's just a laugh. On some trax they've done, yeah, coz there's often
some political meaning but satan? come on, it's gotta be a joke.

take it easy
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From: "Jason Del Bosco, KLiNGoN GoD oF SaUsAgEs" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: satan+live++
Date: 15 Jan 1997 20:02:09 -0500 (EST)



On Tue, 14 Jan 1997, Hans Lo wrote:

> > I have had no trouble buying the satan singles infact i almost bought them
> > all twice its that fucking good, i would have thought you yanks would have
> > it easy buying orbital stuff seen as thought theree much bigger there than
> > they are here
>
> Are you serious? You think Orbital is bigger in the USA than they are in
> the UK? What makes you say that? Far more people know of Orbital in the
> UK than in North America even. Most people I meet haven't even ever
> heard of Orbital.
>
Agreed ... the first time I heard of orbital, it was on a a segment of
Much Music at like 1am, showcasing wierd and alternative videos. It was
'The Box', and I was just floored by how amazing it sounded.

WooKiE


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From: "Seamus (James) Swift" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Orbital in Ireland & InSides
Date: 16 Jan 1997 01:12:48 -0000

I got InSides on 12" for ú6.99 at "Way Ahead" in Derby UK, nyah nyah =)


Orbital were not a well known band in Ireland until recently. I was
supprised to find out Satan is at No.9 in the Irish charts. Even then it's
probably the first time most people have heard of them. Their gig at Feile
95 introduced a lot of people to them. For a country which was not into
techno much in 95, I thought they wouldn't go down well(even though they
were the main reason I went), but they went down brilliant. They did a cool
mix of Belinda Carlisle's "Heaven is a place on earth" with a track by Bon
Jovi "You give love a bad name". It was really strange but it was amazing.

Here is a selection of the bands at Fele 95. Some reviewed.

    Friday 4 Aug ->    Prodigy (They actually broke the sound system twice)
                Moby (Unreal)
                Tricky (Ummmm)
                Black Grape (Cool)
                P.W.E.I. (Best band i'd never listened to before)
                Massive Attack (Ummm)

    Saturday     ->    Blur (Poo to Oasis these guys have atmosphere)
                Beautiful South (poo)
                The Orb (Interesting , I wonder was it really them ?)
                M People (Worst band, sounded pre-recorded)
                Underworld (Wow)
                Sleeper
                Andy Weatherall (Not as good as I expected)
                Darren Emerson ( What a suprise :)

    Sunday     ->    Stone Roses
                Paul Weller
                Orbital (Played last slot WOW * 99999999)
                Galliano (Umm)
                The Chemical Bros. (Unbelivable)
                Carl Cox (Amazing, "Access" almost killed me (top top tune)
                Laurent Garnier
                Paul Bleasdale
                Mark Kavanagh (A budding Cox, played access too)

The best weekend of my Life so far.

Oh and the Hare Krishnas (hope I spelt that right) were cool at the
campsite.

If anyone was watching it on T.V. or video, I was in the video clip they
played at the start and end of each commercial break (wearing an orange
T-shirt dancing in slow-motion)

I'm immortal now :-)


If you were there (I know Sandra & Keith were) tell me. Maybe I could set
up a web site with pics and stories etc.


.............................................................
            mailto:[e-mail]
 http://www.griffin.co.uk/users/whois

Seamus Swift

News Today : "Suicidal twin kills sister by mistake!"

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: satan vinyl and ATR
Date: 15 Jan 1997 17:22:11 -0800

Okay, I'm very confused now.  I remember hearing that there would be two
different vinyl releases.  As in a 7" and a 12".  I got the 12", but its
actually a 2x12".... so is there to be no 7"?  For the sake of the poor
people at my local record stores, please let me know before I call them up
and try to order a non existent release!

        oh, and to FishyT99, who wrote
>Ryan, I totally agree with what you said--I am glad that MTV did play the ATR
>song, just so I'd know I didn't like it...I had heard some good things about
>ATR, but it's just not my style.  However, I will say that the song has grown
>on me...I don't hate it anymore, but I don't think it'll ever be a fave of
>mine =)
Wow, thanks for making my day, I'm glad someone agrees with me.... and it's
weird, a lot of songs are growing on me, especially "poison" by Prodigy...
and techno as a whole has been growing on my dorm hall, where I show my AMP
tape at least once a week=)
Ryan



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From: Ernesto Perez <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Autechre
Date: 15 Jan 1997 19:41:41 -0600

[e-mail] wrote:
>
> Ok, I've been hearing a lot about Autechre here recently--can someone point
> me in the direction of some of his better work?  I've only heard "Second Bad
> Vilbel," and one or two other songs from him...he kinda reminds me of
> Aphex...does the rest of his stuff sound like that?


THEY actually have some fine stuff. my favorite has to be their first
album, INCUNABULA. basscadet is incredible. can you believe they started
out as a hip-hop act? also check out the artificial intelligence
compilation on warp (uk) or wax trax!(us).

dj ernie

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From: "Chance" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: satan+live++
Date: 15 Jan 1997 22:49:35 -0800

  Hey I,m alittle new to this but I know Orbital is more popular in Europe.
 I first heard
  of Orbital in th summer of 92 while looking at cd singles in Camelot
Music while in
  Memphis,Tennesse.  Anyways I was on board USS John F. Kennedy when it
pulled
  into port in Dublin and Portsmouth and found found Orbital cd's at almost
every music
  store and didn't get that strange dumbfounded look when I asked if they
had any cd's
  by Orbital.  I'm in Seattle can anyone help me find mutations or the U.S.
cd singles of
  chime and omen.



- From: Jason Del Bosco, KLiNGoN GoD oF SaUsAgEs <[e-mail]>
> To: [e-mail]
> Subject: Re: satan+live++
> Date: Wednesday, January 15, 1997 5:02 PM
>
>
>
> On Tue, 14 Jan 1997, Hans Lo wrote:
>
> > > I have had no trouble buying the satan singles infact i almost bought
them
> > > all twice its that fucking good, i would have thought you yanks would
have
> > > it easy buying orbital stuff seen as thought theree much bigger there
than
> > > they are here
> >
> > Are you serious? You think Orbital is bigger in the USA than they are
in
> > the UK? What makes you say that? Far more people know of Orbital in the
> > UK than in North America even. Most people I meet haven't even ever
> > heard of Orbital.
> >
> Agreed ... the first time I heard of orbital, it was on a a segment of
> Much Music at like 1am, showcasing wierd and alternative videos. It was
> 'The Box', and I was just floored by how amazing it sounded.
>
> WooKiE

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: True Meaning??
Date: 16 Jan 1997 01:52:21 -0500 (EST)

Absolutely! We should never look for the meaning of meaningful work and just
live on like the mindless, ignorant cattle we really are and not bother to
address the social problems that Orbital mentions. Rave on.

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From: Shaun Rader <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (orbital) uk 2x12"
Date: 15 Jan 1997 22:49:04 -0800

Aaron Murray[SMTP:[e-mail]] wrote:

> actually, vinyl DOES sound better than CD.. a study was conducted

Okay, maybe for those old recordings but to hear the creaking
noises on "The Box - Part 2" and such on a CD is as good as
it gets IMHO.  CD's are great!

BTW I do believe that the beginning of Part 2 has to be one of
the clearest things I've ever heard coming through my speakers..


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From: "Stephen Goss" <[e-mail]>
Subject: What's wrong with this group?
Date: 15 Jan 1997 23:15:28 -0800

Ok, so I lose my internet access for a couple days due to minor financial
difficulties and I come back with a swamped email account. On just the 14th
of this month there were 65 messages sent to the group. That's insane.
  BTW is anybody else a fan of Meat Beat Manifesto? They make great use of
crazy samples and studio-fucked voice samples.They've also got an intense
groove...

message for loopz: What's the word on the Satan Live CD's stateside
release?

"By the use of electronic filters and other methods we will simulate the
sound of speech" -MBM 'future worlds'

<--------------->
Steve Goss
[e-mail]
<--------------->

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: Autechre
Date: 16 Jan 1997 03:53:54 -0500 (EST)

In a message dated 16/01/97  05:22:37, you write:

" [e-mail] wrote:
 >
 > Ok, I've been hearing a lot about Autechre here recently--can someone
point
 > me in the direction of some of his better work?  I've only heard "Second
Bad
 > Vilbel," and one or two other songs from him...he kinda reminds me of
 > Aphex...does the rest of his stuff sound like that?


 THEY actually have some fine stuff. my favorite has to be their first
 album, INCUNABULA. basscadet is incredible. can you believe they started
 out as a hip-hop act? also check out the artificial intelligence
 compilation on warp (uk) or wax trax!(us).

 dj ernie"

Personally, I'd recommend Tri Repetae first, but that's a matter of taste.
The most informative web site is probably
http://subnet.virtual-pc.com/~sk393820/autechre.html
which contains a full Autechre/Gescom discography (including remixes). Ae
have a new single out next week in the UK, called Envane, and an album to
follow in February.

obOrbital: thanks to the people who've written about the FAQ, I'll try to do
the changes before this time tomorrow.

paul mison. monsters exist.
http://members.aol.com/pmison/autechre/

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: re:RE: satan+live++
Date: 16 Jan 1997 9:00:46 GMT

> i would have thought you yanks would have
>it easy buying orbital stuff seen as thought theree much bigger there
>than they are here

I think they are quite a considerable amount bigger in the UK...but at
least the commercial side of things is not too big.

Steve LOOPZ Price.

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: re:Re: satan live eps at cdnow
Date: 16 Jan 1997 9:02:38 GMT

A man after my own heart ;)

Cheers

Steve

----------------------[Reply - Original Message]----------------------

Sent by:lysergic ad naseum <[e-mail]>

>    Yikes! expensive! That's US$ I assume too. Is that the the price
>for each disc of the three part version or the single disc version?
>

thats for each disc... my advice is to find a really cool person in
england
and prevail upon them as it would work out cheaper...

:)
                                                -lysergic


>
>


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From: "Stephen Goss" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: U-ziq
Date: 16 Jan 1997 00:34:37 -0800

> also, i just picked up a double cd called "logical progression" by ltj
> bukem...its a compilation of drum 'n bass that kicks...some stuff is like
> orbital, underworld (newer stuff) and some is very melodic...
>
> jamei

Disc A rips it up, but somehow disc B is 10 songs written and produced by
ten different groups that seemlessly flow into one another while retaining
the exact same up-tempo drum beat. Oh well, the person who put the price
tag on this one at the CD store seems to not have noticed the little 2 CD
in the upper left corner.


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From: [e-mail]
Subject: re:V.IMPORTANT
Date: 16 Jan 1997 9:08:41 GMT

what kind of question is that ?

Do you mean where are they in London or what ?

Steve LOOPZ Price.

This message was originated from Loopz fingers...
He is totally responsible for everything he does on here and occasionally
gets a good kicking.. :)

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: re:satan vinyl and ATR
Date: 16 Jan 1997 9:10:19 GMT


No 7 inch
only a double 12 inch and a triple cd ep.

the 12 inch was gonna be in 2 parts but they just made it into the a
double pack...thats where the confusion lies i think..

Cheers

Steve LOOPZ Price
----------------------[Reply - Original Message]----------------------

Sent by:[e-mail]
 Okay, I'm very confused now.  I remember hearing that there would be two
different vinyl releases.  As in a 7" and a 12".  I got the 12", but its
actually a 2x12".... so is there to be no 7"?  For the sake of the poor
people at my local record stores, please let me know before I call them up
and try to order a non existent release!

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: re:What's wrong with this group?
Date: 16 Jan 1997 9:13:20 GMT



>message for loopz: What's the word on the Satan Live CD's stateside
>release?

Last thing i heard (2 days ago from Jones) is that the US release is only
one single EP rather than the previous planned LP.

Tracks penciled in but not confirmed are Halcyon and SATAN.

No release dates and its all talk at the moment.

When i hear more ill post. :)

Cheers

STeve LOOPZ Price

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: U-ziq
Date: 16 Jan 1997 05:01:47 -0500 (EST)

In a message dated 97-01-15 12:34:04 EST, you write:

<< Hey everyone...I have been hearing about U-ziq a lot (or music if ya call
it
 that) >>
If anyone cares, you can make the "mu" character on your keyboard using the
ASCII codes, instead of using a "u" for this.  If anyone really wants to know
what it is, I suppose I can look up the # for it.

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: In defense of Bjork
Date: 16 Jan 1997 05:05:14 -0500 (EST)

In a message dated 97-01-15 12:52:07 EST, you write:

<< You must be joking....i Eat Orbital , I digest Orbital ....blah blah.

 Depends i suppose what aspects of Orbital we are talking about...the
 Halcyon sample discussion has started smelling a bit...its caught in a
 loop if yaknow what i mean >>
=P  As if you haven't contributed to these non-Orbital messages yourself!
  But I'll agree the discussion about the Halcyon sample got real old real
fast--I quit reading em after about the 4th or 5th one.

Matt

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (orbital) uk 2x12"
Date: 16 Jan 1997 05:09:21 -0500 (EST)

In a message dated 97-01-15 13:40:58 EST, you write:

<< I've even heard
 people say that vinyl sounds better than CD, is this just a
 myth?  I just don't see how that could be true! >>
Ok, I'll explain this real quick--even tho I'm not a big fan of vinyl, it
does sound better than cd.  The reason is that CD's are digital, while vinyl
is analog.  That means that CD's have to break up all those sounds into 0's
and 1's to feed them thru your CD player, and some of the subtleties of the
sound get lost in that transmission.  Vinyl leaves the sine-wave whole, as it
were.  Hope that cleared it up 4 ya.

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: Autechre
Date: 16 Jan 1997 05:18:00 -0500 (EST)

In a message dated 97-01-16 00:22:37 EST, you write:

<< THEY  >>
Ok, enough people have rammed it into my head that Autechre is two guys, and
not one.  I know now....but seriously, thanx for the info about them.

Matt

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: Orbital in Ireland & InSides
Date: 16 Jan 1997 05:22:30 -0500 (EST)

In a message dated 97-01-16 01:01:47 EST, you write:

<< Tricky (Ummmm)
                 Black Grape (Cool)
                 P.W.E.I. (Best band i'd never listened to before)
                 Massive Attack (Ummm) >>
How did Tricky and Massive Attack both rate "ummms?"  Now, I've never seen
either live, so that could be the problem, but I think that both Tricky and
Massive Attack are extremely talented.  Or did you just not like the hip-hop
flavor that they both have?  (by the way, I'm not implying that Massive
Attack is one person here, I know there are (or were) at least 5 people in
it--this is probably residual paranoia from how I got reamed for calling
Autechre "him," but nonetheless....)

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: True Meaning??
Date: 16 Jan 1997 05:24:35 -0500 (EST)

In a message dated 97-01-16 01:56:25 EST, you write:

<< Absolutely! We should never look for the meaning of meaningful work and
just
 live on like the mindless, ignorant cattle we really are and not bother to
 address the social problems that Orbital mentions. Rave on.
  >>
And the good Lord knows that such upstanding people as Orbital would never
put a sample in as a joke--it always has to be addressing a social problem.
 =P

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From: ed naylor <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: RE: (orbital) uk 2x12"
Date: 16 Jan 1997 10:27:20 -0500 (EST)

Shaun said:

> What is the fascination with vinyl?  Other than DJ'ing I don't
> see a benefit.  They don't sound as good, they don't last
> forever, you have to turn it over to side '2', etc.  I've even heard
> people say that vinyl sounds better than CD, is this just a
> myth?  I just don't see how that could be true!

Most Hi-Fi magazines seem to agree that on VERY good equipment,
vinyl sonically outperforms CD, but the average listener with
average stuff would probably say that CDs "sound better". The real
issue for me now is availability - you have to have access to both
CD and vinyl players to be sure of getting hold of all the music
you want these days. The UK chart regulations don't help in this
regard of course - Orbital are bucking the trend in the sense that
the vinyl version of Satan won't count towards the single chart,
because it is the 4th format released, and in any case it runs to
far more than the 4 separate tracks and 40 minutes that is allowed
for a single. Presumably Satan will be in the album charts next
week, possibly quite high up as I would imagine this time of year
is not a good one for LP sales (now that most of the Xmas gift
vouchers have been spent!!).

> Should I get the "In Sides" vinyl just as a collectors
> item?  It's quite expensive but the packaging looks nice..

Yes it does - it also has an exclusive track as well - that has to
be worth 6 quid of anyones money!  My only gripes about Satan (and
they're small ones) is that the live broadcast from Mount Universe
on NYE/NYD includes just about every track on the singles, apart
from Impact of course, and neither includes the Bon Jovi/Belinda
samples.



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From: Twids <[e-mail]>
Subject:       Re: Autechre
Date: 16 Jan 1997 11:06:44 +0000

Amber is definately the best Autechre cd I have heard. I cant
remember how to spell the title of the one with the gold cover but it
definately is not a patch on Amber, buy it , or else.

> From:           [e-mail]
> Date sent:      Wed, 15 Jan 1997 13:45:37 -0500
> Subject:        Re: Autechre
> To:             [e-mail]
> Send reply to:  [e-mail]

>      Go get Inculabula!  Awesome album and becoming one of my favs.  Got
>      that other one with the completely blank silver cover and have
>      forgotten the name of it (after only 3 days), but that doesn't go to
>      say that the cd itself's forgettable!  Getting to love this one even
>      more than Inculabula.  AND.... there's another one - Amber which is
>      meant to be their best, but I haven't heard all of it yet, though.
>      Well worth getting anything by them if you're into Orbital
>
>
> ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________
> Subject: Autechre
> Author:  [e-mail] at Internet2
> Date:    1/15/97 07:27
>
>
> Ok, I've been hearing a lot about Autechre here recently--can someone point
> me in the direction of some of his better work?  I've only heard "Second Bad
> Vilbel," and one or two other songs from him...he kinda reminds me of
> Aphex...does the rest of his stuff sound like that?
>

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From: Aaron Brown <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: MBM
Date: 16 Jan 1997 11:23:47 +0000

Yeah, Meat Beat are fucking superb.  I went to see them live a couple of
years ago and they just blew me away.  The live drums on top of loops
were just kicking.

Talking of e-mail, I've been away for nearly a month and found 1343 to
wade through!

ez

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From: ed naylor <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: In defense of Bjork & Several Other Messages
Date: 16 Jan 1997 11:56:28 -0500 (EST)

Is it just me or are other people getting fed up of seeing six
messages from the same person like this? FishyT isn't the only
offender, even our benevolent benefactor Steve Loopz Price is
guilty. I've only just re-joined this list after a long absence,
but if this continues I'm out of here.



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From: Fraser Macdonald <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: In defense of Bjork & Several Other Messages
Date: 16 Jan 1997 12:22:28 +0000

ed naylor wrote:
>
> Is it just me or are other people getting fed up of seeing six
> messages from the same person like this? FishyT isn't the only
> offender, even our benevolent benefactor Steve Loopz Price is
> guilty. I've only just re-joined this list after a long absence,
> but if this continues I'm out of here.

It's sometimes a bit annoying...I mean do they think they have
to reply to *every* message that goes through. Though you
should have been on the Underworld list a couple of weeks
ago. A guy called Monkey went absolutely wild replying to
every message known to man...and when someone said something
he really started posting complete crap.

Hey, do you see a common thread here...fish, monkeys...
Don`t know where Steve fits in (only joking mate :-))
Actually, you can tell when Steve arrives for work, cos for
about fifteen minutes there's a stream of email from him, one
after the other...

Cheers,

Fraser

P.S. Finally heard Halcyon+Belinda, but to be honest I wasn't
that impressed. It's probably better when you're actually
there in person...

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: re:Good from the Crap
Date: 16 Jan 1997 12:34:44 GMT


Loopz wrote:-
<< You must be joking....i Eat Orbital , I digest Orbital ....blah blah.

 Depends i suppose what aspects of Orbital we are talking about...the
 Halcyon sample discussion has started smelling a bit...its caught in a
 loop if yaknow what i mean >>

Matt wrote
>  As if you haven't contributed to these non-Orbital messages yourself!
>  But I'll agree the discussion about the Halcyon sample got real old
>real
>fast--I quit reading em after about the 4th or 5th one.

I never moaned about the non-Orbital messages...someone stated that
talking about Orbital gets boring and i said the top message.
This is the trouble with the mailing list....grabbing the good from the
crap! :)

Cheers

Steve LOOPZ Price

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: re:Joke Samples
Date: 16 Jan 1997 12:37:13 GMT


>>>>
And the good Lord knows that such upstanding people as Orbital would never
put a sample in as a joke--it always has to be addressing a social
problem.
>>>

Apart from Halcyon which was done as a joke of course.
And the Satan piss take....
And the crackling sample at the start of PLanet of the Shapes...
etc

Steve LOOPz Price.

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: re:NAYLOR answer this! ;)
Date: 16 Jan 1997 12:39:44 GMT

Are u saying we shouldnt be posting messages to the mailing list ?

What ? Eh? Um ? explain ?

Steve LOOPZ PRice

----------------------[Reply - Original Message]----------------------

Sent by:ed naylor <[e-mail]>
 Is it just me or are other people getting fed up of seeing six
messages from the same person like this? FishyT isn't the only
offender, even our benevolent benefactor Steve Loopz Price is
guilty. I've only just re-joined this list after a long absence,
but if this continues I'm out of here.



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From: [e-mail]
Subject: re:No one loves me ;(
Date: 16 Jan 1997 12:44:42 GMT


>>>>>
Hey, do you see a common thread here...fish, monkeys...
Don`t know where Steve fits in (only joking mate :-))
Actually, you can tell when Steve arrives for work, cos for
about fifteen minutes there's a stream of email from him, one
after the other...
>>>>>

Tis true...but come on...you lot serious.
If you want me not to contribute to a list then say...

Im trying to put some factual information into the list - some information
that you wont get from magazines - thought people might enjoy reading the
mail. Ill stick to Websites and the magazine i think.


>P.S. Finally heard Halcyon+Belinda, but to be honest I wasn't
>that impressed. It's probably better when you're actually
>there in person...

U probably would prefer it in the live environment. This is another reason
why Orbital were a bit dubious about sticking live stuff out. It sometimes
doesnt come across as well.

Anyway...see ya

Steve LOOPZ Price
Orbital Zine and Website

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From: "Ravis1" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) uk 2x12"
Date: 16 Jan 1997 07:09:42 -0600

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Okay,
    Break out the engineering books.  A good Digital to Analog Converter will
recreate a sound wave as good or better than vinyl.  Some people just have
the opinion that vinyl is better.

Opinion.

CD's S/N outdoes anything analog.  Music must often be "compressed" to get
all of its details on an analog medium without distortion, losing the
originally intended dynamics.  Also, music coming off of vinyl must be
passed through an RIAA equalization curve.  Its a miracle that the music
isn't totally disappointing to the creator who uses digital synths, drum
machines and computers with accuracy far greater than anything analog.

Ravis1
[e-mail]

----------
> From: [e-mail]
> Ok, I'll explain this real quick--even tho I'm not a big fan of vinyl, it
> does sound better than cd.  The reason is that CD's are digital, while
vinyl
> is analog.  That means that CD's have to break up all those sounds into
0's
> and 1's to feed them thru your CD player, and some of the subtleties of
the
> sound get lost in that transmission.  Vinyl leaves the sine-wave whole,
as it
> were.  Hope that cleared it up 4 ya.
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From: Fraser Macdonald <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: No one loves me ;( (+ gig)
Date: 16 Jan 1997 13:57:49 +0000

[e-mail] wrote:
>
> >>>>>
> Hey, do you see a common thread here...fish, monkeys...
> Don`t know where Steve fits in (only joking mate :-))
> Actually, you can tell when Steve arrives for work, cos for
> about fifteen minutes there's a stream of email from him, one
> after the other...
> >>>>>
>
> Tis true...but come on...you lot serious.
> If you want me not to contribute to a list then say...
>
> Im trying to put some factual information into the list - some information
> that you wont get from magazines - thought people might enjoy reading the
> mail. Ill stick to Websites and the magazine i think.
>

Knew this would happen...I soon as I hit the send button I
knew he'd get all offended. Steve, we love you really. Seriously,
what makes the Orbital list so good is there is someone who
genuinely does know what's going on, and its not all rumours
and inane drivel.

Cheers,

Fraser

P.S. For folks in the UK, would anyone be interested in a copy
of the New Year gig? I have the 1 hour version on one side of
a C120 (ie, no interruptions). If you are, email me privately
and suggest something you might like to swap....gigs/mixes etc.

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From: ed naylor <[e-mail]>
Subject: This is my 3rd message today (oops)
Date: 16 Jan 1997 14:18:32 -0500 (EST)


> It's sometimes a bit annoying...I mean do they think they have
> to reply to *every* message that goes through. Though you
> should have been on the Underworld list a couple of weeks
> ago. A guy called Monkey went absolutely wild replying to
> every message known to man...and when someone said something
> he really started posting complete crap.

I WAS there Fraser, which at least partially explains my
frustration.
>
> Hey, do you see a common thread here...fish, monkeys...
> Don`t know where Steve fits in (only joking mate :-))
> Actually, you can tell when Steve arrives for work, cos for
> about fifteen minutes there's a stream of email from him, one
> after the other...

I probably was a bit harsh on Steve, I'm sure we all agree he has
been the provider of many interesting titbits over the months
(years?).  It's just a shame he can't save them up and give them to
us in one easily-digestible dish though, that we can savour at our
convenience. Only joking Steve or should I say PRICE.



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From: Digger <[e-mail]>
Subject: re:NAYLOR answer this! ;)
Date: 16 Jan 1997 08:53:02 -0500

Hey Hey Hey Now Buddy!  I used to post to this group all the time but lately
I've cut down!  but that isn't the point!  I find a lot of information about
ORBITAL through this group and that is what it is here for!!!
If you want to post some thing (that pertains to ORBITAL of course and no
chain mail) then go for it!! and that goes for all of you on the list!!!
If you don't want to get the mail from this "Mailing List" then please do,
as a matter of fact i urge you to leave the list!
Thank You and have a nice day! :)  stay warm!
this message has been brought to you courtesy of digger

At 12:39 PM 1/16/97 GMT, you wrote:
>Are u saying we shouldnt be posting messages to the mailing list ?
>
>What ? Eh? Um ? explain ?
>
>Steve LOOPZ PRice
>
>----------------------[Reply - Original Message]----------------------
>
>Sent by:ed naylor <[e-mail]>
> Is it just me or are other people getting fed up of seeing six
>messages from the same person like this? FishyT isn't the only
>offender, even our benevolent benefactor Steve Loopz Price is
>guilty. I've only just re-joined this list after a long absence,
>but if this continues I'm out of here.
>
>
>
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From: "Anne L. Usion" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: She shops, she scores!
Date: 16 Jan 1997 07:29:15 -0700

Anthony:

Here's their phone #.  Ask them yourself.

909.626.7774

235 Yale Avenue
Claremont, CA 91711
Rhino Records

My friend, Alan (Bristol on the Undernet), loved this shop the best out of
all the record stores that I took him to while he was here in the States.
We never seem to leave there empty handed.

Great for us, bad for our bank accounts.  :-(

Regards,

--Anne

_____________________________________________________________________________

Here comes the supernatural anesthetist
If he wants you to snuff it
All he has to do is puff it
--He's such a fine dancer!




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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: U-ziq
Date: 16 Jan 1997 10:07:54 -0500 (EST)

i'd love to know how to make a "mu"...endulge me

jamie

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From: Jon Green <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (orbital) uk 2x12"
Date: 16 Jan 1997 15:28:29 +0000

At 10:29 15/01/97 -0800, Shaun Rader wrote:
>[e-mail] wrote:
>
>> argh!! how can you hate vinyl? it's just pure sex...
>
>What is the fascination with vinyl?  Other than DJ'ing I don't
>see a benefit.  They don't sound as good, they don't last
>forever, you have to turn it over to side '2', etc.  I've even heard
>people say that vinyl sounds better than CD, is this just a
>myth?  I just don't see how that could be true!

CDs seem to have better sound quality than a few years ago (ie 1991/2). Some
old rave tracks I've got on CD and 12" sound better on the 12", the sound is
clearer despite the crackles, but these days CDs seem to sound better than
they did then.

Jon


Jon Green: [e-mail]
"The less effort one puts in, the greater
satisfaction one gains from a good result"



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From: "Anne L. Usion" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Oh my GAWD!
Date: 16 Jan 1997 07:38:39 -0700

Oops!  I posted the Rhino Records telephone and address to the list instead
of privately.  Mea Culpa!  I'm sooooo embarrassed.

Oh well...since I made THAT mistake, would anyone care to contribute phone
numbers, addresses, e-mail addys, URLs of record stores that they find to
be *good* sources for getting music?  Mail it to me privately and don't
spam the list.  I'll compile it and place it out on my (so far unused) web
site (figure I might as well start somewhere with my HTML endeavors).  That
way, we'll all have access to it.

Oh yeah, if you have a contribution, flag the subject line with *great
record store*, that way I won't accidentally delete your post.  Thanks in
advance.

<blush mode ON>

--Anne

_____________________________________________________________________________

Here comes the supernatural anesthetist
If he wants you to snuff it
All he has to do is puff it
--He's such a fine dancer!




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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re[4]: True Meaning??
Date: 16 Jan 1997 11:59:21 -0500

     Too right - I only got to thinking about it cos someone else asked me
     what I thought it meant...
     Have to keep the ol' brain occupied with something...ponder ponder...

     Sandy!


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>yeah, but haven't you ever been _curious_??! ;>

to be perfectly honest, as regards to satan, no I am not curious coz
it's just a laugh. On some trax they've done, yeah, coz there's often
some political meaning but satan? come on, it's gotta be a joke.

take it easy
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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re[2]: Satan Live
Date: 16 Jan 1997 11:57:27 -0500

     They're getting popular enough if they're at No 9 in the Charts.
     We'll see if they've dropped down a bit on Sat when this week's charts
     are out...
     I reckon that chart placing's a bit misleading though - everyone who
     bought the songle probably bought all three, maybe 4 (incl 12"), so if
     only one version had been released they might not even have made the
     top 30.  Hmm.. just have to wait & see when the next single comes out!


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>
> I was just wondering is Orbital popular in Ireland?

        Hmm, I wouldn't know. I'm a Canadian that was visiting London.

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From: "Anne L. Usion" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: Virgin--bashing
Date: 16 Jan 1997 08:01:56 -0700

My take on Virgin:

If you have to go into the New Age section to find anything, you *know*
they don't know what the hell they're doing.

BTW, I ordered a laser disk of the movie Baraka from them (it had just
finished playing on their laser system).  First of all, they denied the
movie existed.  After I pointed out that it had just finished playing, they
denied it was on laser disk.  I pointed out that they were playing it on
their laser system.  What do I think of Virgin?  Not much.  I'm still
waiting for them to get the order in.  It's been 4 months...

I also ordered Papua New Guinea (FSOL) from them 1.5 years ago.  It took
them 5 months to get it in.

In the meantime, I had discovered Tower.Alternative up the road from
Virgin.  They had 7 copies of the single in stock.  I also scored big time
with Orbital CDs while I was there.

As you can guess, Virgin is my "Oh what the hell, I'm in the neighborhood
anyway" store.  Two other negatives:  CDs are over-priced and the parking
sux!

--Anne

>[e-mail] wrote:
>
>> I am so happy that a Virgin Music Store finally opened in Vancouver.
>>  Hopefully they will carry a good variety of Orbital disks.  I'm going to
>> chack it out this weekend.
>
>As for these discussions on Virgin, I'm not too impressed with
>their selection.  I have been to one in Newport Beach and the
>one in Ontario (CA) and I have never seen any Orbital imports
>there.  A while back they used to be on top of things but I
>think they get imports very late.  Rhino Records may take a
>week or two but at least they get the imports!  Good luck finding
>rare stuff guys!
>
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Subject: what kind of question is that ?
Date: 16 Jan 1997 17:29:59 GMT Standard Time

Steve LOOPZ Price.
Steve LOOPZ Price.wrote:
 where is the future sound of london????????????
Do you mean where are they in London or what ?

 where is the future sound of london????????????

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From: Shaun Rader <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: RE: (orbital) uk 2x12"
Date: 16 Jan 1997 12:01:30 -0800

ed naylor[SMTP:[e-mail]] wrote:

> far more than the 4 separate tracks and 40 minutes that is allowed
> for a single. Presumably Satan will be in the album charts next

The Satan vinyl is over 40 minutes long?  What tracks are on
it exactly?  Are they from the same concert as the CD versions?

> > Should I get the "In Sides" vinyl just as a collectors
> > item?  It's quite expensive but the packaging looks nice..
>
> Yes it does - it also has an exclusive track as well - that has to
> be worth 6 quid of anyones money!  My only gripes about Satan (and
> they're small ones) is that the live broadcast from Mount Universe

I assume your talking about the "Satan" vinyl with the exclusive
track.. I can only pick up "In Sides" right now--

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re[2]: No one loves me ;(
Date: 16 Jan 1997 17:00:01 -0500

     Aw, of course we love you... where would we be without you??! :))


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>>>>>
Hey, do you see a common thread here...fish, monkeys... Don`t
know where Steve fits in (only joking mate :-)) Actually, you
can tell when Steve arrives for work, cos for about fifteen
minutes there's a stream of email from him, one after the
other...
>>>>>

Tis true...but come on...you lot serious.
If you want me not to contribute to a list then say...

Im trying to put some factual information into the list - some information
that you wont get from magazines - thought people might enjoy reading the
mail. Ill stick to Websites and the magazine i think.


>P.S. Finally heard Halcyon+Belinda, but to be honest I wasn't
>that impressed. It's probably better when you're actually
>there in person...

U probably would prefer it in the live environment. This is another reason
why Orbital were a bit dubious about sticking live stuff out. It sometimes
doesnt come across as well.

Anyway...see ya

Steve LOOPZ Price
Orbital Zine and Website

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From: Keith Doran <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Orbital in Ireland & InSides
Date: 16 Jan 1997 21:17:19 +0000 (GMT)



On Thu, 16 Jan 1997, Seamus (James) Swift wrote:

> I got InSides on 12" for =A36.99 at "Way Ahead" in Derby UK, nyah nyah =
=3D)
>=20
>=20
> Orbital were not a well known band in Ireland until recently. I was
> supprised to find out Satan is at No.9 in the Irish charts. Even then it'=
s
> probably the first time most people have heard of them. Their gig at Feil=
e
> 95 introduced a lot of people to them. For a country which was not into
> techno much in 95, I thought they wouldn't go down well(even though they
> were the main reason I went), but they went down brilliant. They did a co=
ol
> mix of Belinda Carlisle's "Heaven is a place on earth" with a track by Bo=
n
> Jovi "You give love a bad name". It was really strange but it was amazing=
.
>

=20
> Here is a selection of the bands at Fele 95. Some reviewed.
>=20
> =09Friday 4 Aug ->=09Prodigy (They actually broke the sound system twice)
> =09=09=09=09Moby (Unreal)
> =09=09=09=09Tricky (Ummmm)
> =09=09=09=09Black Grape (Cool)
> =09=09=09=09P.W.E.I. (Best band i'd never listened to before)
> =09=09=09=09Massive Attack (Ummm)
>=20
> =09Saturday=09 ->=09Blur (Poo to Oasis these guys have atmosphere)
> =09=09=09=09Beautiful South (poo)
> =09=09=09=09The Orb (Interesting , I wonder was it really them ?)
> =09=09=09=09M People (Worst band, sounded pre-recorded)
> =09=09=09=09Underworld (Wow)
> =09=09=09=09Sleeper=20
> =09=09=09=09Andy Weatherall (Not as good as I expected)
> =09=09=09=09Darren Emerson ( What a suprise :)
> =09=09=09=09
> =09Sunday=09 ->=09Stone Roses
> =09=09=09=09Paul Weller
> =09=09=09=09Orbital (Played last slot WOW * 99999999)
> =09=09=09=09Galliano (Umm)
> =09=09=09=09The Chemical Bros. (Unbelivable)
> =09=09=09=09Carl Cox (Amazing, "Access" almost killed me (top top tune)
> =09=09=09=09Laurent Garnier
> =09=09=09=09Paul Bleasdale
> =09=09=09=09Mark Kavanagh (A budding Cox, played access too)
>=20
> The best weekend of my Life so far.
>=20
> Oh and the Hare Krishnas (hope I spelt that right) were cool at the
> campsite.
>=20
> If anyone was watching it on T.V. or video, I was in the video clip they
> played at the start and end of each commercial break (wearing an orange
> T-shirt dancing in slow-motion)
>=20
> I'm immortal now :-)
>=20
>=20
> If you were there (I know Sandra & Keith were) tell me. Maybe I could set
> up a web site with pics and stories etc.
>
Great idea, great review. I'd been to all the Feile's 90 - 95, I have to=20
say it's made my youth. There was one last year but it was indoors so=20
that doesn't really count. I think Feile is gone forever


=20
>=20
> .............................................................
>             mailto:[e-mail]                =20
>  http://www.griffin.co.uk/users/whois=20
>=20
> Seamus Swift
>=20
> News Today : "Suicidal twin kills sister by mistake!"
>=20

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From: "Robert Rowan" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Orbital in Ireland & InSides
Date: 16 Jan 1997 21:17:58 -0000


Someone asked about Orbital in Ireland...they have a fairly negligible
mainstream following, thank whatever-religious-figure, but they have a
solid, more underground-music orientated following - well, me and all my
mates anyway ;).
Satan is no. 9 in the charts here - but, let's face it, the Irish singles
charts is not exactly a booming industry, it takes only relativley paltry
sales to make an impact here.

Honestly, you wouldnt believe some of the crap that was selling well here
last year - it made me want to laugh my bollox off if it wasnt so
sickeningly annoying at the same time - I reckon the bloke went out and
bought a few thousand copies of his own record or something...

I mean, I'm surprised Satan isnt doing better - I mean most people I know
who buzz off Orbital bought all 3 copies, and, despite its lack of
mainstream coverage here, it strikes me as the kind of thing that certain
(lame) people might pick up on as...here I cringe...*cool*, and buy.

The Box flew in at no.11 last May, but was gone next week, all true Orbital
fans bought it straight away obviously. That was the same week Orbital and
Carl Cox rocked The Point here last May, just before the release of Insides
- thousands of happy people in a huge warehouse style venue - that was a
night I'll never forget...

To whoever was talking about Feile 95 (seamus?) - I missed it but my mate
was there - ask Alex Paterson from the Orb- dont blame the poor chap for
trying to get up and say hello to the good Doctor, he was well out of it...

See how I kept this as one message rather than multiples? You can do it,
man...
(Dont worry Steve, your info is well appreciated here)

" Remember kids, hip hop is just drum'n'bass slowed down..."

Andy Rowan

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From: "Robert Rowan" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Fw: (orbital) uk 2x12"/repost
Date: 16 Jan 1997 20:56:05 -0000


Something strange is going on man.  I sent this yesterday and it doesnt
seem to have arrived.  I'm going to try this one more time.
"Everybody on-line, looking good..."
----------
> From: Robert Rowan <[e-mail]>
> To: [e-mail]
> Subject: Re: (orbital) uk 2x12"
> Date: 15 January 1997 22:32
>
> Hey fellow Orbital headz
> I've been away from the list while I was in the states for the last few
> weeks, where I picked up loads of fresh (to me) choons, like Woob and
> FSOL's Accelerator, only they're all on CD (sob)... and now I'm back!
I'm
> more than slightly irked at not being able to make it over to London for
> New Year's Eve, all I have is a crackly recording which my mate somehow
> managed to get off BBC Radio (even though we live in Dublin)
>
>

>Anyway , I thought I had unsubscribed so imagine my delight when I came
> home to find over 1000 messages for my reading pleasure ;) ...(oh, and
the
> 3 Satan live EPs).
>
> I've been picking out messages at random...that thread on Sequencing was
> very informative...thanx m8s...
>
> I've even heard
> > people say that vinyl sounds better than CD, is this just a
> > myth?  I just don't see how that could be true!
> >
> > Should I get the "In Sides" vinyl just as a collectors
> > item?  It's quite expensive but the packaging looks nice..
> >
> > --
> No ways man, vinyl emits a frequency which is pleasurable to listen
> to...don't you find CD's a bit lifeless?
> I even went out and bought Brown again on 12" just for side B (Lush into
> Impact-you can't go wrong, know what I mean, bud).
>
> Oh yeah, I was talking to this sound bloke over in the states (you're a
> friendly lot!) about MIDI sequencing software, and he said that he was
well
> into CakeWalk...anyone got any suggestions/advice on this? - I know there
> are potential electronic composers out there :)
>
> Also, anyone from Dublin on this list? I hear Scan-X is playing somewhere
> on Saturday night - know anything about it? It might be OK as hard techno
> goes...
>
> Incidentley, where's that Digger bloke, should'nt he be complaining about
> the *non - Orbital related stuff*
> that's being posted? Maybe I'm being a bit of piss-taking git... but that
> that chain letter thing was quite lame, yeah? And after he complained
about
> my Electric Skychurch-compared-to-Orbital post ages ago!
>
> Oh well, glad to be back. Let's keep the Vibe in 97.I
>
> >It's My Mind That Workss...  [Gary Cobain]
>
> Andy Rowan




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From: "Siobhan O'Dwyer" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Orbital Live at Feile '95
Date: 16 Jan 1997 09:41:07 -0800

Seamus,
Glad to see there was someone elese there who was equally impressed I
have to agree that their mix of visuals and tunes were unbelieveable.
This is dispite my near overdose on cocaine.

As a recovering raver (active service 1991 - 1995), Orbital on CD are as
close to  rush as you can get!

Live & learn

Regards

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From: Geoffrey Elgey <[e-mail]>
Subject: Sites for live Orbital?
Date: 17 Jan 1997 08:56:56 +0000

G'day,

Finally fixed up the gremlins with my machine so that I can use RealAudio,
and had a listen to Orbital 'Live at the Seattle Trainstation' broadcast
that is on the Club I-music site
(http://club.imusic.com/clubimusic/features/orbital/).

Are there any other sites with Orbital RealAudio stuff?

Thanks,
Geoff


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From: Yeoun S Jung <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: satan+live++
Date: 16 Jan 1997 13:44:16 -1000

    hi i'm nu member from hawaii. but here i cant get any stuff a lot.
sux. not just orbital. all kinds of digital stuff. and wanna get some
videos 2 but cant. anyone has cool idea?



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On Wed, 15 Jan 1997, Jason Del Bosco, KLiNGoN GoD oF SaUsAgEs wrote:

>
>
> On Tue, 14 Jan 1997, Hans Lo wrote:
>
> > > I have had no trouble buying the satan singles infact i almost bought them
> > > all twice its that fucking good, i would have thought you yanks would have
> > > it easy buying orbital stuff seen as thought theree much bigger there than
> > > they are here
> >
> > Are you serious? You think Orbital is bigger in the USA than they are in
> > the UK? What makes you say that? Far more people know of Orbital in the
> > UK than in North America even. Most people I meet haven't even ever
> > heard of Orbital.
> >
> Agreed ... the first time I heard of orbital, it was on a a segment of
> Much Music at like 1am, showcasing wierd and alternative videos. It was
> 'The Box', and I was just floored by how amazing it sounded.
>
> WooKiE
>
>


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From: lysergic ad naseum <[e-mail]>
Subject: re:No one loves me ;(
Date: 16 Jan 1997 15:58:34 -0600

everyone needs to chill out... lame ass americans like myself depend on
people like steve to provide the inside scoop on happenings... it's not
every day i get a chance to see the band or ask them a question or two...
as far as this subscriber is concerned, steve can post what the brothers had
for supper (yorkshire pudding?) and i'd be happy...  so there...


                                                -lysergic


At 12:44 PM 1/16/97 GMT, [e-mail] wrote:
>
>>>>>>
>Hey, do you see a common thread here...fish, monkeys...
>Don`t know where Steve fits in (only joking mate :-))
>Actually, you can tell when Steve arrives for work, cos for
>about fifteen minutes there's a stream of email from him, one
>after the other...
>>>>>>
>
>Tis true...but come on...you lot serious.
>If you want me not to contribute to a list then say...
>
>Im trying to put some factual information into the list - some information
>that you wont get from magazines - thought people might enjoy reading the
>mail. Ill stick to Websites and the magazine i think.
>
>
>>P.S. Finally heard Halcyon+Belinda, but to be honest I wasn't
>>that impressed. It's probably better when you're actually
>>there in person...
>
>U probably would prefer it in the live environment. This is another reason
>why Orbital were a bit dubious about sticking live stuff out. It sometimes
>doesnt come across as well.
>
>Anyway...see ya
>
>Steve LOOPZ Price
>Orbital Zine and Website
>
>


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From: lysergic ad naseum <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: satan+live++
Date: 16 Jan 1997 18:26:17 -0600

check out cdnow at http://www.cdnow.com

they have the new orbital singles and some older stuff as well...  its not
cheap but if you have no other choices...


                                                -lysergic


At 01:44 PM 1/16/97 -1000, Yeoun S Jung wrote:
>    hi i'm nu member from hawaii. but here i cant get any stuff a lot.
>sux. not just orbital. all kinds of digital stuff. and wanna get some
>videos 2 but cant. anyone has cool idea?
>
>
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>
>
>On Wed, 15 Jan 1997, Jason Del Bosco, KLiNGoN GoD oF SaUsAgEs wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, 14 Jan 1997, Hans Lo wrote:
>>
>> > > I have had no trouble buying the satan singles infact i almost bought
them
>> > > all twice its that fucking good, i would have thought you yanks would
have
>> > > it easy buying orbital stuff seen as thought theree much bigger there
than
>> > > they are here
>> >
>> > Are you serious? You think Orbital is bigger in the USA than they are in
>> > the UK? What makes you say that? Far more people know of Orbital in the
>> > UK than in North America even. Most people I meet haven't even ever
>> > heard of Orbital.
>> >
>> Agreed ... the first time I heard of orbital, it was on a a segment of
>> Much Music at like 1am, showcasing wierd and alternative videos. It was
>> 'The Box', and I was just floored by how amazing it sounded.
>>
>> WooKiE
>>
>>
>
>
>


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From: Mark S-D <[e-mail]>
Subject: Banned ?!?!
Date: 16 Jan 1997 21:11:17 -0500

Hello you lot !
I heard the video for Satan live got banned in the UK, at least on TOTP at
any rate....(because it had bombs & guns in it........ironic ?) Does anyone
know if it will ever be screened because I'd like to see it. I guess it's
similar to the backdrops used at the show.     Anyone ?
                                                             Mark S-D
P.S. I give money or my arms & legs for any Orbital videos !!

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From: "Michael A. Polisky" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Satan-Yellow, Blue, Red
Date: 16 Jan 1997 21:33:08 -0500


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 I just got 'em. Impact and Out there take the cake!
If your in the DC area trying to find them, dont go to Tower.  They told
me that the company that supplies them with imports went out of
business.
Good hunting.
mike!
[e-mail]

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From: Ernesto Perez <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: satan+live++
Date: 16 Jan 1997 20:44:20 -0600

Chance wrote:
>
>   Hey I,m alittle new to this but I know Orbital is more popular in Europe.
>  I first heard
>   of Orbital in th summer of 92 while looking at cd singles in Camelot
> Music while in
>   Memphis,Tennesse.  Anyways I was on board USS John F. Kennedy when it
> pulled
>   into port in Dublin and Portsmouth and found found Orbital cd's at almost
> every music
>   store and didn't get that strange dumbfounded look when I asked if they
> had any cd's
>   by Orbital.  I'm in Seattle can anyone help me find mutations or the U.S.
> cd singles of
>   chime and omen.

go to platinum records, they're a dj shop that carries a lot of good
music. also try nomad records they specialize in techno and trance and
the guy who runs it is really cool.

dj ernie

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From: Ernesto Perez <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) uk 2x12"
Date: 16 Jan 1997 20:46:57 -0600

Shaun Rader wrote:
>
> Aaron Murray[SMTP:[e-mail]] wrote:
>
> > actually, vinyl DOES sound better than CD.. a study was conducted
>
> Okay, maybe for those old recordings but to hear the creaking
> noises on "The Box - Part 2" and such on a CD is as good as
> it gets IMHO.  CD's are great!
>
> BTW I do believe that the beginning of Part 2 has to be one of
> the clearest things I've ever heard coming through my speakers..
>
> --
> .    .   .  . .end of transmission. .  .   .    .

studies have shown that the first five times a record is played has a
better quality than cd. another way of seeing this is that no matter how
high the reolution is on a computer print out, drawing a circle witha
compass is always truer than doing it digitally on a computer.

dj ernie

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From: lysergic ad naseum <[e-mail]>
Subject: orbital interview...
Date: 16 Jan 1997 21:09:02 -0600

for those who haven't got the ability or desire to listen to the realaudio
version of the interview conducted by zombie zine of the brothers, the first
installment has been transcribed and posted to the zombie zine site at:


                        http://www.earthlink.net/~zom

theres a review of the show and the interview...

keep in mind, any errors in transcribing are mine and if i misquoted either
phil or paul, i apologize to them and the rest of the world... thank you


                                        -lysergic


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From: "Andy C Toth" <[e-mail]>
Subject: inhibition
Date: 16 Jan 1997 22:24:27 -0500

did anyone ever try to do write, type, or do any type of task that uses
motor skills while Out There Somewhere is playing.  I just noticed that it
is very hard to think while it is on (especially the ending).  Just my
thoughts.

I think we may have something here.

Andy

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: Satan-Yellow, Blue, Red
Date: 16 Jan 1997 23:42:14 -0500 (EST)

If anyone here in the DC/or any area needs the three imports, mail me
privately and I'll give you the scoop on where to go to get them fedex-ed to
you next day :-)

jamie

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: In defense of Bjork & Several Other Messages
Date: 17 Jan 1997 01:38:05 -0500 (EST)

Sorry, kids--but if it's really that annoying, you can just delete all my
messages for all I care.  But as long as I see something that I want to
respond to on this list, I'm going to.

To save you all from reading more messages from me =P  I'm going to put
everything else I wanted to say today in this message (oh yes indeedy-do I'm
going to be a good little boy from here on out)

In Are We Here? is Ms. Goldfrapp actually saying something, or are there no
actual words in the vocal?  I sometimes think I can make out real words, but
it's driving me nuts because I can't make out anything sensical.   (BTW, I
tried to post a message about the vocal in "Dead Cities," but I don't know if
it made it to the list...could someone tell me if it did?)

One more thing then I'm done--sorry this is so long.  Has Aphex Twin's new
one been released in the UK before it will be here?  If so, I'm going to be
mad that the US's one electronic genius isn't releasing his albums here first
=P

Your very-long-winded pal,
Matt

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From: Shaun Rader <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: Sites for live Orbital?
Date: 16 Jan 1997 22:49:48 -0800

Geoffrey Elgey[SMTP:[e-mail]] wrote:

> Are there any other sites with Orbital RealAudio stuff?

The Royal Albert Hall performance is still on-line at
http://www.on-air.com/archives.html but the quality isn't
as good as the Train Station show...

Did you get to hear how they broke down at the beginning
of Forever?  I swear I heard that broadcast a long time ago
with Forever intact.. I must have mistaken it for one of
their other 'net shows.

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From: lysergic ad naseum <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Banned ?!?!
Date: 17 Jan 1997 02:14:48 -0600

the backing film was the satan video or at least parts of it...

At 09:11 PM 1/16/97 -0500, Mark S-D wrote:
>Hello you lot !
>I heard the video for Satan live got banned in the UK, at least on TOTP at
>any rate....(because it had bombs & guns in it........ironic ?) Does anyone
>know if it will ever be screened because I'd like to see it. I guess it's
>similar to the backdrops used at the show.     Anyone ?
>                                                             Mark S-D
>P.S. I give money or my arms & legs for any Orbital videos !!
>
>


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From: Albert Rivera <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Sites for live Orbital?
Date: 17 Jan 1997 00:45:44 -0800

As far as I know, there are at least four different sights with live Orbital
on them.  There's the Club I-music one, another one at Rocktropolis (can't
remember the url), another at liveconcerts.com, and I've completely
forgotten where the fourth is.  Sorry.

later,
albert


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From: Greg Liu <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: In defense of Bjork & Several Other Messages
Date: 17 Jan 1997 00:48:57 -0800 (PST)

Are you trying to tell me that Aphex Twin is from the States?...I don't
think so.

Greg

On Fri, 17 Jan 1997 [e-mail] wrote:

> Sorry, kids--but if it's really that annoying, you can just delete all my
> messages for all I care.  But as long as I see something that I want to
> respond to on this list, I'm going to.
>
> To save you all from reading more messages from me =P  I'm going to put
> everything else I wanted to say today in this message (oh yes indeedy-do I'm
> going to be a good little boy from here on out)
>
> In Are We Here? is Ms. Goldfrapp actually saying something, or are there no
> actual words in the vocal?  I sometimes think I can make out real words, but
> it's driving me nuts because I can't make out anything sensical.   (BTW, I
> tried to post a message about the vocal in "Dead Cities," but I don't know if
> it made it to the list...could someone tell me if it did?)
>
> One more thing then I'm done--sorry this is so long.  Has Aphex Twin's new
> one been released in the UK before it will be here?  If so, I'm going to be
> mad that the US's one electronic genius isn't releasing his albums here first
> =P
>
> Your very-long-winded pal,
> Matt
>


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From: Daniel Kasaj <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Banned ?!?!
Date: 17 Jan 1997 10:10:06 +0100 (MET)


>P.S. I give money or my arms & legs for any Orbital videos !!

You have an quicktime movie of the box on the official orbital site


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From: "Seamus (James) Swift" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Orbital in Ireland & InSides
Date: 17 Jan 1997 09:17:38 -0000

> << Tricky (Ummmm)
>                  Black Grape (Cool)
>                  P.W.E.I. (Best band i'd never listened to before)
>                  Massive Attack (Ummm) >>
> How did Tricky and Massive Attack both rate "ummms?"  Now, I've never
seen
> either live, so that could be the problem, but I think that both Tricky
and
> Massive Attack are extremely talented.  Or did you just not like the
hip-hop
> flavor that they both have?

Sorry if I made it look like I didn't really like their music. Personally I
enjoyed their sets a great deal, but they just didn't get the crowd going.
(It was *very* hot though). I danced all through Tricky's set and was
caught on T.V.


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From: ed naylor <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: RE: RE: (orbital) uk 2x12"
Date: 17 Jan 1997 09:50:18 -0500 (EST)

On Thu, 16 Jan 1997 12:01:30 -0800  Shaun Rader <[e-mail]>
wrote:
> The Satan vinyl is over 40 minutes long?  What tracks are on
> it exactly?  Are they from the same concert as the CD versions?

All the tracks are the same, but minus the crowd noise. Only one
version of Satan is on it, but I will have to be reminded which
one. I guess the total playing time must touch 60 minutes, but I
haven't checked. I suppose the obvious next question to our Man
with the Plan is where does the version of Choice come from? Over
to you Mr. Loopz.

> I assume your talking about the "Satan" vinyl with the exclusive
> track.. I can only pick up "In Sides" right now--

Ooop sorry, the answer in that case is no idea - it's a difficult
one. I don't have the vinyl version, and given that I do have a
list of music as long as a very long arm that I simply must have,
then this isn't really a priority right now. Toss a coin.




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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: Wink
Date: 17 Jan 1997 06:27:52 -0500 (EST)

You wrote:


<< while most of us are on the subject of other techno groups, i was
wondering
 if anyone has heard of Wink... (i believe his full name is John Wink, but
 am probably wrong)  he is on a few comp. albums >>
You were close--it's Josh Wink....I haven't been able to find one of his
albums either, but I've liked his remixes, and the stuff I've heard on comps
from him.

Higher State of Consciousness (Tweekin' Acid Funk Mix) is on the album Left
Above the Clouds.  The album is pretty damn good!  It's also got a couple
other tunes, Hypnotizin and Don't Laugh, that Wink re released (origionally
recorded under the name WINX?) By the way, has anyone heard what I guess is
the origional mix of HSOC, with a continuous beat as opposed to the hip hop
drum breaks?  I heard it at a rave last weekend...killer...

Charles

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: Wink
Date: 17 Jan 1997 06:30:25 -0500 (EST)

I think Josh is about to release a new album as well...Heard sumthin about it
on the radio the other night.

Charles

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: re:Sod the Moaners
Date: 17 Jan 1997 12:17:02 GMT

The list is/has gone through a funny patch. There are some really good
people on here (hence my email frenzy - i like talking to sound people)
and then there are a bunch of moaning twats! You know who you are.

Most people want info, want to contribute and talk to the info and others
like to sit back and just read. Thats all fine....there are no rules here
are there...just talk Orbital related stuff.

We are all diverse off...which is a good thing in small doses. The way i
look at it ... if u like it here ... you stay ... you dont like it ...
dont punish yourself - go unsubscribe.

The list should stay as its always been - why should the list change for a
few members who dont like the way it polls messages or how when they come
back from Holiday they have 2 billion messages ... in the words of FSOL
"Its not my problem!".

Thats that off my chest....business as usual

Steve
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From: [e-mail]
Subject: re:New Web Site - Loopz
Date: 17 Jan 1997 12:20:38 GMT

The new website is slowly on its way. To test the speeds of the site -
which IMHO appears to be very fast (if not average ;) ) ive placed the
SATAN EP Sample page on there....

Go check it out and the new URL will be posted when ready.

HTTP://WWW.CABLEINET.CO.UK/USERS/BaDmUtHa

Yep...badmutha is a good friend of mine. (and he never moans) ;))))

Cheers

Steve
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From: [e-mail]
Subject: re:Satan Banned/Xtra Track on 12/and stuff!
Date: 17 Jan 1997 12:43:34 GMT

Here...ive combined 3 on email for ya!

Ok...Satan Video.
The actual banning really is the record company not releasing the video to
the broadcasters...fearing that it will be banned. Its not officially
banned (i think there is a bit of stuff to do with this in MM this week).
I did record Chill Out on Sat (now on for 5 hours....yes 5 hours of good
MTV music!) but as yet ive reached the 3 hour mark and no Satan as yet
(although Belfast was played!).

The Xtra Track (hidden). Whoever said that the track was hardly hidden,
heres a question...How the fuck do u hide a track on vinyl ? Ahem..

Anyway the xtra track was Choice and was broadcast from New York.

Last but not least...

Paul Hartnoll might (thats a might) star on a new Channel 4 film review
program. The film "Brazil" might (thats a might again) be his chosen film
review. As u can guess its not quite final.

For those trying to get "Sallys Photographic Memories" in the Uk then you
might struggle. Most places have it classed as a G which means not
stockable. Mail orders only - but it is out as of last Monday !!!!!

What else...cant remember...

Steve
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From: "^EA^" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: In defense of Bjork & Several Other Messages
Date: 17 Jan 1997 09:18:34 -0800

> On Fri, 17 Jan 1997 [e-mail] wrote:
>
> > One more thing then I'm done--sorry this is so long.  Has Aphex Twin's
new
> > one been released in the UK before it will be here?  If so, I'm going
to be
> > mad that the US's one electronic genius isn't releasing his albums here
first

Aphex Twit was born in Cornwall UK.

cream tea's ?

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From: [e-mail] (Sean Strout)
Subject: Re: In defense of Bjork & Several Other Messages
Date: 17 Jan 1997 06:48:59 PST

> One more thing then I'm done--sorry this is so long.  Has Aphex Twin's new
> one been released in the UK before it will be here?  If so, I'm going to be
> mad that the US's one electronic genius isn't releasing his albums here first

RDJ is from England, attended college at Oxford I think.  The latest
album, Richard D. James was released in the UK a few months back.
I think I heard it is slated for a late January release in the states.

-s.

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From: "Anthony Agee" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Another opinionated outburst from Anthony
Date: 17 Jan 1997 10:28:49 -0600

> and then there are a bunch of moaning twats! You know who you are.

ROTFL!!! Something tells me that a "moaning twat" has a different meaning
in Britain than it does here in America.


>
> Most people want info, want to contribute and talk to the info and others

> like to sit back and just read. Thats all fine....there are no rules here

> are there...just talk Orbital related stuff.... ETC

Agreed, Steve.  I've been on this list for a year now (i'm one of the old
farts!) and I'd have to say, sure, 80% is just pure gabbing and 20% is good
info...but hell, that's alright.  You guys have NO idea how helpful this
list has been in aiding me to find good music at stores.  I live in Kansas
and there is zero exposure to music.  I've gone by word of mouth on
purchases and so far my luck has been spectacular.  LTJ Bukem, Autechre,
FSOL are all bands that I'd never know if it weren't for you folks.  Thank
you!!  And for all you guys who insist that this list remains purely
orbital: bugger off.

In regard to the vinyl vs. CD debate:  who cares if vinyl has a "warmer"
sound?  They're hard to find, they scratch easily, they wear down over
time, they're too damn big, and most importantly...I don't believe we have
in-dash LP players for your car!!  I've yet to hear vinyl which can pack a
bass punch like a good clear digital CD too.  But hey!  We have both to
choose from which is the best situation.

More on Tricky:  I previewed his album a 2nd time the other day.  You
know....I think there are only 2 good tracks on the whole album.


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From: "Anthony Agee" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Beat classification
Date: 17 Jan 1997 10:29:32 -0600

Hey, can anybody describe the difference between Jungle and Drum and Bass?


And what exactly is breakbeat?

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: New Web Site - Loopz
Date: 17 Jan 1997 11:42:14 -0500 (EST)

This web site doesn't work...it bumped me to "cablenet" and said there was
major security problems??

jamie

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: re:Web Site - Loopz and Aphex
Date: 17 Jan 1997 17:28:31 GMT

Strange...just tried it again. No problems. Is everyone having problems ?

Counter is on 12 as well...(although 3 of them was me).

While im here....Aphex Twin "Richard D James" - proceed with caution.
I thought it sucked first few listens....but after a few weeks...i had a
few favourites. Liked the first track "4" and the 3rd track (which has
samples of his spectrum) and of course "To cure a ....".

Cheers

Steve
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Sent by:[e-mail]
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was
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jamie

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From: Jonathan Hera <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Orbital in Ireland & InSides
Date: 17 Jan 1997 13:16:05 -0500 (EST)

    just thought id add a comment here.  i saw tricky just last night
in toronto, and what you said was very true, he just didnt get the crowd
going.  i think he has gone completely mad!  they played for 2 strong
hours, that was cool, and for his final song, he made it up as he wwent
along b4 putting it into brand new euretro (sp?).  that was amazing
    tricky seemed to be playing very heavy stuff, if i didnt know it
was him, i would have thought it to be some heavy metal stuff or
something.  there were no videos or very good lights, so the show on the
whole was just plain good.  if this is what you mean by UMMMM, then i
totally agree with you
depsypher

On Fri, 17 Jan 1997, Seamus (James) Swift wrote:

> > << Tricky (Ummmm)
> >                  Black Grape (Cool)
> >                  P.W.E.I. (Best band i'd never listened to before)
> >                  Massive Attack (Ummm) >>
> > How did Tricky and Massive Attack both rate "ummms?"  Now, I've never
> seen
> > either live, so that could be the problem, but I think that both Tricky
> and
> > Massive Attack are extremely talented.  Or did you just not like the
> hip-hop
> > flavor that they both have?
>
> Sorry if I made it look like I didn't really like their music. Personally I
> enjoyed their sets a great deal, but they just didn't get the crowd going.
> (It was *very* hot though). I danced all through Tricky's set and was
> caught on T.V.
>
>


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From: Shaun Rader <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: Web Site - Loopz and Aphex
Date: 17 Jan 1997 10:24:19 -0800

[e-mail] wrote:
> Strange...just tried it again. No problems. Is everyone having problems ?

I just tried and I got a "Document Not Found Error" which
sent me back to the Cable Internet homepage (automatically)
after 10 seconds.  Seems like a fast site nonetheless!

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From: Jon Green <[e-mail]>
Subject: Sally's Photographuc Memory
Date: 17 Jan 1997 16:19:47 +0000

At 12:43 17/01/97 GMT, [e-mail] wrote:

>For those trying to get "Sallys Photographic Memories" in the Uk then you
>might struggle. Most places have it classed as a G which means not
>stockable. Mail orders only - but it is out as of last Monday !!!!!

No it isn't, I ordered a copy from Volume a couple of weeks ago along with
their Breakbeat Science set and they sent me BS, but said Sally's... isn't
out 'til mid Feb. I got TEX 5 the other day and the book with it also says
Sally's... is out in February. I'd assume Volume know what they're talking
about....  Anyway, whenever it IS out, I've already got my copy ordered :-)

Jon


Jon Green: [e-mail]
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From: Jon Green <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Wink
Date: 17 Jan 1997 16:29:26 +0000

At 06:27 17/01/97 -0500, [e-mail] wrote:
> By the way, has anyone heard what I guess is
>the origional mix of HSOC, with a continuous beat as opposed to the hip hop
>drum breaks?  I heard it at a rave last weekend...killer...

er, depends on what the mix is called. Sounds to me like maybe you mean 'DJ
Wink's Hardhouse mix', which I don't think much to. I just find it boring,
and I certainly wouldn't call it hard house at all. Richie Hawtin's mix of
'Don't Laugh' is wicked.

Jon


Jon Green: [e-mail]
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From: Jon Green <[e-mail]>
Subject: Aphex Twit?
Date: 17 Jan 1997 16:33:22 +0000

At 09:18 17/01/97 -0800, ^EA^ wrote:

>Aphex Twit was born in Cornwall UK.

Aphex Twit?? Mistake or deliberate???  :-)

Jon


Jon Green: [e-mail]
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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (orbital) uk 2x12"
Date: 17 Jan 1997 19:21:28 GMT


>CDs seem to have better sound quality than a few years ago (ie 1991/2). =
Some
>old rave tracks I've got on CD and 12" sound better on the 12", the =
sound is
>clearer despite the crackles, but these days CDs seem to sound better =
than
>they did then.

look, right, the only reason vinyl is better (apart from mixing of
course) is coz it looks great going round and round, it's just great.
I do buy CDs but I get much more satisfaction from watching a new 12"
turn round and round, especially at 33 (though I tend to play a lot of
my records pitched up, Out There Somewhere Live sounds great pitched
up)

take it easy

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: U-ziq
Date: 17 Jan 1997 19:22:15 GMT

>Oh well, the person who put the price
>tag on this one at the CD store seems to not have noticed the little 2 =
CD
>in the upper left corner.

you obviously do not shop at HMV then, they misread the little "2CD"
to say "20CD" 'cos the 23 squids price tag is what has put me off
buying it.


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From: "flava" <[e-mail]>
Subject: nodnolfodnuoserutuf
Date: 17 Jan 1997 19:46:46 GMT Standard Time

does anyone know how i can get in touch w/ the futuresoundoflondon?
thanks
BENski
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From: "Chance" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Another opinionated outburst from Anthony
Date: 17 Jan 1997 13:08:19 -0800

BRAVO!!!!!

----------
> From: Anthony Agee <[e-mail]>
> To: [e-mail]
> Subject: Another opinionated outburst from Anthony
> Date: Friday, January 17, 1997 8:28 AM
>
> > and then there are a bunch of moaning twats! You know who you are.
>
> ROTFL!!! Something tells me that a "moaning twat" has a different meaning
> in Britain than it does here in America.
>
>
> >
> > Most people want info, want to contribute and talk to the info and
others
>
> > like to sit back and just read. Thats all fine....there are no rules
here
>
> > are there...just talk Orbital related stuff.... ETC
>
> Agreed, Steve.  I've been on this list for a year now (i'm one of the old
> farts!) and I'd have to say, sure, 80% is just pure gabbing and 20% is
good
> info...but hell, that's alright.  You guys have NO idea how helpful this
> list has been in aiding me to find good music at stores.  I live in
Kansas
> and there is zero exposure to music.  I've gone by word of mouth on
> purchases and so far my luck has been spectacular.  LTJ Bukem, Autechre,
> FSOL are all bands that I'd never know if it weren't for you folks.
Thank
> you!!  And for all you guys who insist that this list remains purely
> orbital: bugger off.
>
> In regard to the vinyl vs. CD debate:  who cares if vinyl has a "warmer"
> sound?  They're hard to find, they scratch easily, they wear down over
> time, they're too damn big, and most importantly...I don't believe we
have
> in-dash LP players for your car!!  I've yet to hear vinyl which can pack
a
> bass punch like a good clear digital CD too.  But hey!  We have both to
> choose from which is the best situation.
>
> More on Tricky:  I previewed his album a 2nd time the other day.  You
> know....I think there are only 2 good tracks on the whole album.

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From: Digger <[e-mail]>
Subject: LOOPZ Site
Date: 17 Jan 1997 16:26:39 -0500

Sorry Guys I Must Have Missed The Address But I Would Really Like To See The
Site!  So If One Of You Kind People Could Re-Post The Address It Would Be
Much Appreciated!  Thanx!
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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: Sod the Moaners
Date: 17 Jan 1997 23:45:52 GMT


>The list is/has gone through a funny patch. There are some really good=20
>people on here (hence my email frenzy - i like talking to sound people)=20
>and then there are a bunch of moaning twats! You know who you are.

you tell 'em fellah.
Personally the thread about whether the Live trax were recorded
directly from the mixer or not...what is this? it bored me to tears,
no offence intended to anyone at all, maybe you wanna do a live show
and record it, fine, go for it and hope it goes well, but can you
please find an appropriate list to ask about this? This list is about
music, not technical stuff.

take it easy


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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: Beat classification
Date: 17 Jan 1997 23:46:01 GMT


>Hey, can anybody describe the difference between Jungle and Drum and =
Bass?

right, everyone has their own theories on the categorisation of music,
here is mine for Jungle.

Jungle is the term given to the genre of music, like House or Techno,
and can be divided into two main streams:
Drum'n'bass (often called intelligent drum'n'bass) as played by DJs
like LTJ Bukem and the like, the other form is Hardstep as played by
DJs like Hype and DJ SS.
Of course, jungle is a very experimental form of music, and there are
subdivisions of these two strains of Drum'n'bass and Hardstep. Of
course, there are many crossovers in the different styles.

this makes me sound like a right boring bastard, I'm not I promise!!!
anyway, that's my theory!!

take it easy

>And what exactly is breakbeat?
>

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: Aphex Twit?
Date: 17 Jan 1997 23:59:21 GMT


>>Aphex Twit was born in Cornwall UK.
>
>Aphex Twit?? Mistake or deliberate???  :-)

mistake, change the "i" for an "a" ;)

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: In defense of Bjork & Several Other Messages
Date: 17 Jan 1997 19:53:29 -0500 (EST)

In a message dated 97-01-17 10:05:10 EST, you write:

<< RDJ is from England, attended college at Oxford I think.  The latest
 album, Richard D. James was released in the UK a few months back.
 I think I heard it is slated for a late January release in the states.
  >>
Thanx for correcting me, guys--for some reason I got Moby and Aphex mixed up
there ( I thought Moby was from UK and Aphex was from US)   I don't know what
I was thinking of, or if I was thinking at all =)

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From: Geoffrey Elgey <[e-mail]>
Subject: Opinions on 'Chime' (Helium mix) ?
Date: 18 Jan 1997 10:56:49 +0000

G'day,

I saw a copy of ffrr's 'Gold On Black' yesterday, which has the Helium mix
of 'Chime' on it - can anyone tell me if this is a good mix/worth getting?

Thanks,
Geoff


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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: Aphex Twit?
Date: 17 Jan 1997 20:15:05 -0500 (EST)

Oh, c'mon--I realize that Aphex probably isn't for everyone, but aren't you
being a little rough on the guy?

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From: Timothy Edwards Wesley <[e-mail]>
Subject: END WORTHLESS MESSAGES!!!
Date: 17 Jan 1997 20:35:53 -0500 (EST)

Ok,
    Personally I am tired of getting worthless messages from people.
Now, if you are one of those people who insist on stating your worthless
crap, keep this in mind:

    1 If you want to reply to someone's specific request, DO NOT
FUCKING REPLY TO THE GROUP!!!  For instance, the guy who posted the note
saying he wanted to know the price for a FAT BOY SLIM album wanted to know
the price, NOT EVERYONE ELSE!!!  mail HIM and tell HIM the price, not me
because now I've read about 7 messages saying how much the CD is.

    2 If you are one of those people who just write worthless shit all
day long, sorry TODDY but you do, it's a lot nicer for those of us who
read your shit to read and delete it in one nice message instead of 7
different worthless messages cluttering up everyone's mailboxes.



                        Tim Wesley
                        Box 23833
                        Atlanta, GA 30322
                        404-712-1580
                        [e-mail]


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From: [e-mail] (Laurie Beasley)
Subject: Re: END WORTHLESS MESSAGES!!!
Date: 17 Jan 1997 23:22:25 +1000

Hi-
         I just read this post and i feel it is overly rude.  I do
understand Tim's point about lots of messages cluttering up the mailboxes,
but personally i don't mind it.  I am a member of another mailing list as
well, which had the same sort of complaints.  The solution chosen was to
limit each person's postings to one message a day.  I think that is a
little drastic.  I don't think that posting on this list has become out of
control.
        Anyway- i have just gotten into Orbital.  I had never heard of them
a few months ago until i heard "The box" on the radio here.... i .loved it
instantly.  I bought "In Sides" abotu a month ago.  What other groups would
any of you recommend i check out?   Thanks!

GROOVE ON!


>Ok,
>        Personally I am tired of getting worthless messages from people.
>Now, if you are one of those people who insist on stating your worthless
>crap, keep this in mind:
>
>        1 If you want to reply to someone's specific request, DO NOT
>FUCKING REPLY TO THE GROUP!!!  For instance, the guy who posted the note
>saying he wanted to know the price for a FAT BOY SLIM album wanted to know
>the price, NOT EVERYONE ELSE!!!  mail HIM and tell HIM the price, not me
>because now I've read about 7 messages saying how much the CD is.
>
>        2 If you are one of those people who just write worthless shit all
>day long, sorry TODDY but you do, it's a lot nicer for those of us who
>read your shit to read and delete it in one nice message instead of 7
>different worthless messages cluttering up everyone's mailboxes.
>
>
>
>                                                Tim Wesley
>                                                Box 23833
>                                                Atlanta, GA 30322
>                                                404-712-1580
>                                                [e-mail]

*LaUrIe*
[e-mail]
pezgrrrl on IRC

~got me a raygun... got me an altitude... i can't help feeling something's
wrong with every one of you...~ -Billy Corgan (Pissant)





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From: "^EA^" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: END WORTHLESS MESSAGES!!!
Date: 18 Jan 1997 00:33:03 -0800

Timothy Edwards Wesley rolled out the wrong side of bed and said....

> Ok,
>     Personally I am tired of getting worthless messages from people.
> Now, if you are one of those people who insist on stating your worthless
> crap, keep this in mind:
>
>     1 If you want to reply to someone's specific request, DO NOT
> FUCKING REPLY TO THE GROUP!!!

Well Tim i have to dissagree with you .There have been a few times when
somebody here has made a specific request about one thing or another and
for the most part nobody else cares.... but once and a while there may also
be someone here who will  benefit from an "individual" answer that goes to
the list (other than chain mail of course :) )

I get my mail twice a day each time there is on average 120 messages,now i
know that very few may get my juices flowing but all i'll do is have a
quick read and delete it
and then i get on with my life.

"Tim, just relax put the kettle on and play some Orbital tunes ...........

Mick

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From: Aleksandra Adamovic <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Beat classification
Date: 18 Jan 1997 07:00:11 +0100 (MET)



 >Hey, can anybody describe the difference between Jungle and Drum and
  Bass?

  I always thought Jungle is simply Drum And Basswith the elements of
  Reagge...or something...

  Sasha.




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From: Curtis Hall <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: END WORTHLESS MESSAGES!!!
Date: 17 Jan 1997 23:09:24 +0000

Probably you could also be interested in FSOL, (The Future Sounds Of
London).  Their new release "Dead Cities" is ambient cool symphonic
powerful sampled deep techno soundtrack kinda stuff!!

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From: Brian Davis <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: END WORTHLESS WHINERS!!!!
Date: 18 Jan 1997 00:23:45 -0600

Timothy Edwards Wesley wrote:
>
> Ok,
>         Personally I am tired of getting worthless messages from people.
> Now, if you are one of those people who insist on stating your worthless
> crap, keep this in mind:
>
>         1 If you want to reply to someone's specific request, DO NOT
> FUCKING REPLY TO THE GROUP!!!  For instance, the guy who posted the note
> saying he wanted to know the price for a FAT BOY SLIM album wanted to know
> the price, NOT EVERYONE ELSE!!!  mail HIM and tell HIM the price, not me
> because now I've read about 7 messages saying how much the CD is.
>
>         2 If you are one of those people who just write worthless shit all
> day long, sorry TODDY but you do, it's a lot nicer for those of us who
> read your shit to read and delete it in one nice message instead of 7
> different worthless messages cluttering up everyone's mailboxes.
>
>
>
>                                                 Tim Wesley
>                                                 Box 23833
>                                                 Atlanta, GA 30322
>                                                 404-712-1580
>                                                 [e-mail]
uh.....not that it's any of my business...but why don't you fuck off and
leave the list???

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From: Curtis Hall <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: END WORTHLESS MESSAGES!!!
Date: 18 Jan 1997 02:41:28 +0000

Let's try something novel!
No attitudes...
Just share music communication.

flood

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From: Greg Liu <[e-mail]>
Subject: Tranquilizer Remix
Date: 18 Jan 1997 03:06:41 -0800 (PST)

I was wondering if anybody could possibly pick up one of those UK
magazines that is going to have the Tranquilizer remix with it.  BIG ISSUE
or something like that; I can't remember.  I don't even know if it is out
yet, but when it does come out, I would really appreciate it if someone
could get me a copy and send it to a needy guy in the States and of
course, I will pay them back.

Thanks

Greg


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From: Mark S-D <[e-mail]>
Subject: Helium mix and some babble
Date: 18 Jan 1997 09:40:46 -0500

I thought the Helium mix was a bit long to be honest, I bet it would sound
really good in a club loud and mixed in - kind of a trancey
version of chime, I loved it when I first heard it but that was long
before all the newer stuff. If you can get your hands on Chime Crime
on the mutations EP, (I think) this is a really good remix, more of a
reconstruction.

Another thing - anyone see the VOX Orbital interview ? What a load of
old bollocks, where did they get that journalist....If I ever had the god
given chance to do an interview I wouldn't waste it on a crap joke all
about Orbital being the devils helper. (As for the backwards messages
thing if you play Belfast backwards on high speed it sounds like an
old Bucks Fizz record....proof surely !) There is also an interview in
Melody Maker (UK) this month which is a lot better...


   Mark S-D

PS  "Peace or annihilation......it's your choice."

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From: "Ravis1" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: END WORTHLESS MESSAGES!!!
Date: 18 Jan 1997 11:23:13 -0600

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>                         Tim Wesley

>                         Box 23833

>                         Atlanta, GA 30322
>                         404-712-1580
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From: "Ravis1" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: END WORTHLESS MESSAGES!!!
Date: 18 Jan 1997 11:36:23 -0600

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Your getting into  a genre (collectively 'Techno') about 8 (mature) years
old.  Some jerks will dis you for it.

Try:

    Almost any Rising High compilation
    Artificial Intelligence I
    Artificial Intelligence II
    Autechre (all of them)
    Banco De Gaia (listen to it first)
    Beaumont Hannant (hard to find)
    Blue
    Chemical Brothers (older stuff only)
    Children of the Bong
    Clock DVA
    Eat Static
    Future Sounds of London (FSOL)
    Higher Intelligence Agency
    Irresistible Force (listen to it first)
    Logic Trance (compilation)
    Optic Eye
    Organism 01 and 02 (compilations)
    The Prodigy
    Quadruped (compilation)
    Timeshard
    Trance Europe Express I thru V (compilations)
    United State of Ambience

Travis L. Combel
Ravis1
[e-mail]
----------
> From: Laurie Beasley <[e-mail]>
>         Anyway- i have just gotten into Orbital.  I had never heard of
them
> a few months ago until i heard "The box" on the radio here.... i .loved
it
> instantly.  I bought "In Sides" abotu a month ago.  What other groups
would
> any of you recommend i check out?   Thanks!
>
> GROOVE ON!
>
>

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compilation<br>	Artificial Intelligence I<br><font =
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only)<br>	Children of the Bong<br>	Clock DVA<br>	Eat =
Static<br>	Future Sounds of London (FSOL)<br>	Higher =
Intelligence Agency<br>	Irresistible Force (listen to it =
first)<br>	Logic Trance (compilation)<br>	Optic =
Eye<br>	Organism 01 and 02 (compilations)<br>	The =
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From: "Ravis1" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: END WORTHLESS MESSAGES!!!
Date: 18 Jan 1997 11:37:40 -0600

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This is what Tim was talking about.  This could have been sent to the
requester.

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> To: [e-mail]
> Subject: Re: END WORTHLESS MESSAGES!!!
> Date: Friday, January 17, 1997 5:09 PM
>
> Probably you could also be interested in FSOL, (The Future Sounds Of
> London).  Their new release "Dead Cities" is ambient cool symphonic
> powerful sampled deep techno soundtrack kinda stuff!!
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From: [e-mail]
Subject: re:Aphex Twat / Chime (Helium)/Loopz site
Date: 18 Jan 1997 18:58:25 GMT

Gday,

Someone was asking about Chime (Helium mix) ... i think it was Geoff.
The mix is just ok...But there are plenty of better remixes out there.
Also that named compilation cd hardly holds the best tracks in the world.

As for Aphex Twin. Like the majority of his music, prefer his
experimentation element. He really tries to make his music sound
different. But the end of the day i personally think he is a bit of a
knob. I saw him live end of last year and the 40 minute (yes 40 minutes)
performance was musically fine but the whole "middle finger to the world"
attitude was portrayed as he lay on the stage twiddling knobs. But ill buy
his albums...

Steve LOOPZ Price.

P.s. Can someone confirm that my sight is ok....ive had visitors and all
my mates say it works fine...cmon ?

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: Aphex Twat / Chime (Helium)/Loopz site
Date: 18 Jan 1997 13:56:02 -0500

What is the best compilation cd to get the best remixes of orbital stuff??

anyone?

steve? :-)

jamie

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From: "Anthony Agee" <[e-mail]>
Subject: What's Steve's WWW address?
Date: 18 Jan 1997 17:41:36 -0600

I'm trying to test out Steve's web page but I can't find the address
anywhere.  Help?



         o    o

       \______/


[e-mail]

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From: [e-mail] (Administrator)
Subject: The Whiners
Date: 18 Jan 1997 15:56:32 -0800

In response to the END WORTHLESS MESSAGES and other Whiners....

As George Clinton (I beleive) said "If You Can't Stand The Heat, Get Yo'
Ass Out' The Kitchen"

My point being- if you can't stand all of our "worthless" messages GET YOUR
FREAKIN' ASS OFF THE LIST!

I really don't see a problem with getting all of these messages- I love
Orbital and the cool stuff that does come out of this list is worth sorting
through. I you were a true orbital fan, you wouldn't care.

I noticed that a lot of people have been dogging on Steve Loopz Price.. In
response to that, Mr. Price knows the brothers Orbital and is one of the
people on this list that actually contributes cool info and is a pretty
cool guy. So shut the fuck up ;)

I'm going off my soapbox now. So untill next time...

-Jon

"If you can't stand the mail, get yo' ass off the list!"

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From: ebbhead <[e-mail]>
Subject: ORBITAL I (UK Version) Available Online!!!
Date: 18 Jan 1997 19:07:51 -0500

For those of us outside of the UK who have found it almost impossible to
obtain the UK version of Orbital I, it is back in print and I just received
it from an online dealer here:
http://www.demon.co.uk/pastel/
The current catalog number is TRUCD9 (previously 8282482).  I must admit it
is much better than the US/Canadian version (cat. no. 162351001).  For
those who don't already know, there are 6 songs which are different between
the 2 CDs (see the LOOPZ discography for a comparison).  Well, I wish
everyone luck in getting a copy who doesn't already have it!  Get 'em while
they're HOT!!! ;)

_________________________________________________________

 _|_ |_ |_  _ _  _|    e-mail:  [e-mail]
(-|_)|_)| )(-(_|(_|    http://www.purplenet.net/~ebbhead/
_________________________________________________________

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From: Mark S-D <[e-mail]>
Subject: What's Steve's WWW address?
Date: 18 Jan 1997 19:16:05 -0500

Hi there,

Steve's Internet address is

http://www.cableinet.co.uk/users/BaDmUtha

That's the new one he wants testing I think....

Regards,    Mark S-D

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From: ebbhead <[e-mail]>
Subject: ORBITAL I (UK Version) Available Online!!!
Date: 18 Jan 1997 19:45:17 -0500

For those of us outside of the UK who have found it almost impossible to
obtain the UK version of Orbital I, it is back in print and I just received
it from an online dealer here:
http://www.demon.co.uk/pastel/
The current catalog number is TRUCD9 (previously 8282482).  I must admit it
is much better than the US/Canadian version (cat. no. 162351001).  For
those who don't already know, there are 6 songs which are different between
the 2 CDs (see the LOOPZ discography for a comparison).  Well, I wish
everyone luck in getting a copy who doesn't already have it!  Get 'em while
they're HOT!!! ;)

_________________________________________________________

 _|_ |_ |_  _ _  _|    e-mail:  [e-mail]
(-|_)|_)| )(-(_|(_|    http://www.purplenet.net/~ebbhead/
_________________________________________________________

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From: "^EA^" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Fw: LOOPZ site
Date: 18 Jan 1997 20:07:04 -0800


> Steve,tried to access you new site numerous times ,always get a can't
find
> url error using both MSIE 3.01 and Netscape
>
>
> This mail would have gone directly to steve but for some reason i have'nt
> been able to get mail to him the last 2 days, are you aware of this
steve?

love and kisses

Mick


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From: tsee <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: a meager request
Date: 18 Jan 1997 22:27:40 -0800


>Granted, I don't know how many of you are
>novice composers like myself, but I'm going to try (don't laugh yet), try as
>hard as I can to try to emulate at least a small form the excellent
>combinations that I've heard on their CD's.

>        Eric Zavesky
>
                Hey Eric, glad to see I'm not the only one out there :)

    Bye,

    Trent See


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From: tsee <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: wrong address for that Sniv sample
Date: 18 Jan 1997 22:27:30 -0800

At 09:30 AM 1/13/97 +0000, you wrote:
>The address for that Sniv/Glass sample is :
>
>http://www.griffin.co.uk/users/whois/sample.htm
>-----------------------------------------------------------------
>Ian Silvester,              "He dreams.. while he's not sleeping"
>Research Associate.                             - The Chameleons
>-----------------------------------------------------------------
>
>
                This was a while back (I haven't been reading my email just
downloading it so I don't get an extra charge on my monthly bill).  I'm glad
that someone else on the list likes Philip Glass.  He doesn't only use
electronic instruments in his music, but it is very well composed.  One LP
he did that does implement electronic synthesis :) is called "1000
Airplanes".  It is definitely worth a listen to--he played this in concert
at an actual airplane hanger.  Some although may not like the Linda Ronstadt
oprah, but I think she does a terrific job.

                Anyhow, nice job Ian, I think that if the Hartnoll brothers
and Philip Glass got together, we would have an excellent piece of work come
out of it.

    Bye,

    Trent See


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From: tsee <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: a meager request
Date: 18 Jan 1997 22:37:38 -0800


>I take it by sample CDs you mean the stuff like you get from
>Time+Space, or whoever. If that's the case, then the thing about
>Orbital is that they use their imagination and get sounds from
>unlikely places, instead of just relying on stuff from sample CDs
>which everyone else has. For example, on Walk Now (Brown), there's
>the sound of an Australian pedestrian crossing. How many other
>records can you think of that have that on it?
>
>This is just my opinion, but a sampler can be one of the best
>creative tools, or it can be the worst. It's good if you can find
>unusual things to sample, change them to make a unique sound. It's
>bad if all you do is use really cheesy, obvious samples.

                Hey also Eric and Fraser, another good way of finding
interesting samples is looking for sound effects CDs (you can usually find
several in the sound effects section).  Note that these are only sound
effects, not music.

    Bye,

    Trent See


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From: tsee <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: In defense of Bjork
Date: 18 Jan 1997 22:46:31 -0800

At 12:12 PM 1/13/97 -0600, you wrote:
>Listen to her albums Debut and Post and then tell me she sucks.  I guess
>it's possible you might think so...but I always thought an Orbital fan
>would like her.  oh well.
>
>
>[e-mail]
>
>
                Me Too!  There is my two cents

    Bye,

    Trent See


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From: tsee <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: True Meaning??
Date: 18 Jan 1997 22:55:23 -0800

At 03:19 PM 1/13/97 -0500, you wrote:
>Got a question for you Steve and anyone else who of course will give their
>$.02...
>
>What do you interpret (or what did the bros interpret) the beginning of
>"satan" to mean?:
>adultery? divorce? etc...hmmmm good question huh...
>
>jamie
>
>

                I think you should ask the 'Butthole Surfers' this question.

                http://www.buttholesurfers.com/

    Bye,

    Trent See


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From: tsee <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: True Meaning?? of SATAN
Date: 18 Jan 1997 22:57:42 -0800

At 04:39 PM 1/13/97 -0600, you wrote:
>according to the brothers, the surfers stole it from the residents anyway...
>so, ask anybody you care too...
>
>
>                                        -lysergic
>
                What residents?

    Bye,

    Trent See


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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: Aphex Twat & other random crap (some Orbital related, some not)
Date: 19 Jan 1997 01:59:53 -0500 (EST)

In a message dated 97-01-18 13:55:43 EST, you write:

<< As for Aphex Twin. Like the majority of his music, prefer his
 experimentation element. >>
Speaking of his experimentation element, have any of you guys heard the remix
he did of Jesus Jones?  I don't know what song he remixed, but he completely
obliterated it--I personally think it came out better, tho.  While I'm still
talking about him, is any of his stuff under other names good?  I've heard a
little Polygon Window, and thought it was good, but what about the other
stuff?  (and why does he use so many pseudonyms?)

Ok, now to Orbital--some of you will deem this a "worthless comment" I'm
sure, but I just now figured out what song TGWTSIHH is.....duh!! Stupid me!!
  Also, I'm gonna ask this again since no one seemed to notice this when I
said it the 1st time....Are there any actual words in Are We Here?

Ok, I'm done ranting.

Matt



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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: END WORTHLESS MESSAGES!!!
Date: 19 Jan 1997 02:00:22 -0500 (EST)

In a message dated 97-01-17 20:39:50 EST, you write:

<< Ok,
     Personally I am tired of getting worthless messages from people.
 Now, if you are one of those people who insist on stating your worthless
 crap, keep this in mind:

     1 If you want to reply to someone's specific request, DO NOT
 FUCKING REPLY TO THE GROUP!!!  For instance, the guy who posted the note
 saying he wanted to know the price for a FAT BOY SLIM album wanted to know
 the price, NOT EVERYONE ELSE!!!  mail HIM and tell HIM the price, not me
 because now I've read about 7 messages saying how much the CD is.

     2 If you are one of those people who just write worthless shit all
 day long, sorry TODDY but you do, it's a lot nicer for those of us who
 read your shit to read and delete it in one nice message instead of 7
 different worthless messages cluttering up everyone's mailboxes. >>

This is too true.  I am sick of having 20 mails with shit in it.

Morpheus

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From: tsee <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: An idea
Date: 18 Jan 1997 23:08:01 -0800

At 02:23 AM 1/14/97 -0500, you wrote:
>Hey since most of us are trakkers, why don't we throw some of our works in
>with the mail.  This way we can all hear each others traks.  The people that
>don't care, don't download.  Sound like a plan,  I can mail some of my shit
>too.
>All trakkers comment.
>Morpheus
>
>
                That is an excellent idea!  Sounds great!  I don't have
anything to contribute...I've just been fooling around on my keyboard and
just got some cheap soft from Midisoft (I use a Yamaha PSR-500...I didn't
want to shell out a-lot of $$$$$ on a keyboard because I don't have the
talent yet to justify it).

                But I might try a few samples and send them to those who
would wish to listen (you may email me privately)...but I don't think we
should email them to the list because there will be those who do not wish to
particitpate.

                So, if you are interested mail me, if not, this email can be
safely deleted.

    Bye,

    Trent See


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From: tsee <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Correct address for that Sniv sample
Date: 18 Jan 1997 23:10:07 -0800

At 09:24 AM 1/14/97 -0000, you wrote:
>Thanks to Ian for spotting the mistake !
>
>here is the address !
>
>
>
> http://www.griffin.co.uk/users/whois/sample.htm
>
>what do you think ?
>
>
                Oh, didn't know, James, that you were the one that mixed the
sample...sooo...ditto to you what I addressed to Ian.

    Bye,

    Trent See


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From: tsee <[e-mail]>
Subject: re:No one loves me ;(
Date: 18 Jan 1997 23:42:31 -0800

>everyone needs to chill out... lame ass americans like myself depend on
>people like steve to provide the inside scoop on happenings... it's not
>every day i get a chance to see the band or ask them a question or two...
>as far as this subscriber is concerned, steve can post what the brothers had
>for supper (yorkshire pudding?) and i'd be happy...  so there...
>
>
>                                                -lysergic
>

                Yes.  Too all of you out there that do not know Steve, I
suggest you SHUT THE HELL UP!!!!!!!!!!

                I appreciate his contributions and his direct connections
with Orbital (not too mention the rumors ;)).

                Umm, I don't consider myself a lame ass American (capitalize
please).

    Bye,

    Trent See


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From: Shaun Rader <[e-mail]>
Subject: Speaking of the UK version of Orbital 1..
Date: 18 Jan 1997 23:57:04 -0800

Does anyone know of any other place someone from the US could
purchase the original UK version of the first Orbital CD?  I would
love to hear the bonus tracks and the original version of "Speed
Freak".

How is that live version of Midnight anyway?  I LOVE Midnight...
Is there crowd noise or anything?  I also can't imagine the CD
starting with The Moebius (so used to Belfast..)!
--
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From: Mark S-D <[e-mail]>
Subject: True Meaning?/SATAN/Buttholes/residents
Date: 19 Jan 1997 04:35:33 -0500

Regarding: Residents & My opinion on Satan sample etc

The resisdents are a not very well know band who do really weird stuff,
like an LP
called "A tale of two cities" - strange headf**k music ! A lot of stuff
about moles....
They are shown in pictures as if they had no head, just one big eye for a
head and suits.
Their music is too strange for me most days, can make me feel really odd. I
had no idea
the Butthole surfers nicked that Satan intro from them, not saying you're
wrong just a bit
of a shock. I think someone has already metioned the fact that the
Buttholes loved the
Satan track anyhow and gave it the OK a few years back.
As for the true meaning of the sample, I'm sure myself it's dark
humour/sarcasm which
shows division & the excuses we all make for "societys" problems... the
"us" and "them"
- in a way like FSOL's track "It's not my problem". But then again if you
think like me you're
most likely suffering too.....you're free to make up your own minds of
course......  ; )  I find
it very hard to write what I think Orbital tracks are "about" even though
it seems so clear to
me the words get lost on the way to my mouth. Anybody else have this
problem ?!?! I read
with interest that someone was getting vivid mental imagery with Out There
Somewhere,
hey hey me too !  I get really weird shit with The Box & Petrol (without
drugs btw). Please
note not hallucinations just imaginary stuff........I'm not that ill at the
moment thanks.
      Thats it.....got that off my chest,     : )                 Bye for
now......Mark S-D

PS  "Do not attempt to think......or depression may occur.......stay in
your homes !"  He he.  ; )

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From: Chris Herz <[e-mail]>
Subject: re:No one loves me ;(
Date: 19 Jan 1997 03:04:11 -0700

>                Umm, I don't consider myself a lame ass American (capitalize
>please).

im a lame ass american.. ;^) (j/k)  i thought we dropped this whole
conversation...



        -Chris Herz

[e-mail]

http://www.interwerks.com        http://www.chs.lane.edu/~chrish



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From: Chris Herz <[e-mail]>
Subject: Dr. Freecloud Rave (non-orbital)
Date: 19 Jan 1997 03:23:36 -0700

*This is non-orbital related, but techno related, so you've been warned, twice*


holy crap!!!  what a performance by all the DJs at the WOW Hall in Eugene,
OR...  my ears are totally werked...  DJ Sol (a good friend of mine) spun
some Tori Amos...  those who dig her, have you heard of a tune called "Blue
Sky"?  I'm looking for it..  Dr. Freecloud, i guess was more of a jungle
fast beat (dunno the "techno lingo".. sorry) but it was hella-fast..  any
of you orbital people go?  just curious... im tired so g'nite all!!!


        -Chris Herz

[e-mail]

http://www.interwerks.com        http://www.chs.lane.edu/~chrish



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From: "deckard" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Orbital+ and the best live
Date: 18 Jan 1997 13:23:39 +0100

Hi all,

My name is Rafa from Spain and I new on the list. I have a little
question...What is exactly "ORBITAL+" ? Is "ORBITAL II"? or what?.

Besides, I would like to buy an Orbital live recording. What is the best
live?


Thanks in advance.

Rafa.

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From: lysergic ad naseum <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: True Meaning?? of SATAN
Date: 19 Jan 1997 06:51:30 -0600

the band the residents, but i am unaware of what song/album/anything... just
going by what the brothers said when i asked them about borrowing from the
surfers... they said the surfers got it from the residents and turnabout was
fair play (paraphrased to be sure, not an exact quote)


                                        -lysergic


At 10:57 PM 1/18/97 -0800, tsee wrote:
>At 04:39 PM 1/13/97 -0600, you wrote:
>>according to the brothers, the surfers stole it from the residents anyway...
>>so, ask anybody you care too...
>>
>>
>>                                        -lysergic
>>
>                What residents?
>
>    Bye,
>
>    Trent See
>
>
>


everything's ##################################################  you too
             # The Lysergic Dream - The Dark Beyond The Stars #
    gone     # the new full length release, available NOW!!!! #  will be
             #  http://hudson.idt.net/~lyserg19 for more info #
  lysergic   ################################################## assimilated



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From: "Michael A. Polisky" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Art on SATAN EPs
Date: 19 Jan 1997 11:28:59 -0500


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I know only a few lucky individuals have the Eps here in the states but,
I havent heard anyone talk about the art on the covers.  I realized that
it is a crazy picture of a mad dog in bite sequence. 1 & 2 the dogs
mouth is open and 3 he is chomped down.  Any thing behind the art? just
wondering if anyone knew?
mike!
[e-mail]

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<DT>I know only a few lucky individuals have the Eps here in the states
but, I havent heard anyone talk about the art on the covers.  I realized
that it is a crazy picture of a mad dog in bite sequence. 1 & 2 the
dogs mouth is open and 3 he is chomped down.  Any thing behind the
art? just wondering if anyone knew?</DT>

<DT>mike!</DT>

<DT>[e-mail] </DT>

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: Art on SATAN EPs
Date: 19 Jan 1997 19:33:47 GMT

the Satan covers are all shots from the video sequence that
accompanies the live show.

take it easy
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From: "Steve Goss" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: What's Steve's WWW address?
Date: 19 Jan 1997 13:52:53 -0800

> Hi there,
>
> Steve's Internet address is
>
> http://www.cableinet.co.uk/users/BaDmUtha
>
> That's the new one he wants testing I think....
>
> Regards,    Mark S-D

 I got this when I tried. By the way I'm in the states.

File Not found

The requested URL /BaDmUtha was not found on this server.

<--------------->
Steve Goss
[e-mail]
<--------------->

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From: tsee <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Dr. Freecloud Rave (non-orbital)
Date: 19 Jan 1997 20:04:50 -0800

>*This is non-orbital related, but techno related, so you've been warned, twice*
>
                *warning number three ;-)*
>
>holy crap!!!  what a performance by all the DJs at the WOW Hall in Eugene,
>OR...  my ears are totally werked...  DJ Sol (a good friend of mine) spun
>some Tori Amos...  those who dig her, have you heard of a tune called "Blue
>Sky"?  I'm looking for it..  Dr. Freecloud, i guess was more of a jungle
>fast beat (dunno the "techno lingo".. sorry) but it was hella-fast..  any
>of you orbital people go?  just curious... im tired so g'nite all!!!
>
>
>        -Chris Herz

                Yes Chris, I dig that tune...I just checked CDNOW...I didn't
see it there...but you can check out her stuff on her 1996 release "Boys for
Pele" samples if you got Real Audio (oops, an unsolicited advertisement) at

                http://www2.cdnow.com/cgi-bin/mserver/SID=640685298/RP/CDN/F
IND/displaypop.html/pcai=7567+82862+1

                Whew, that  was a long one :-)

    Bye,

    Trent See


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From: tsee <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Orbital+ and the best live
Date: 19 Jan 1997 20:10:47 -0800

>Hi all,
>
>My name is Rafa from Spain and I new on the list. I have a little
>question...What is exactly "ORBITAL+" ? Is "ORBITAL II"? or what?.
>

>Thanks in advance.
>
>Rafa.
>
>
                Hi and welcome to the Orbital list.  In sum, Orbital is
made-up of two brothers by the name of Paul and Phil Hartnoll.  The first
two LPs they released were called Orbital (otherwise known as the green
album) and Orbital II (otherwise known as the brown album).  You can find
out mucho informacion at URL:

                http://www.rise.co.uk/orbital

                Some of the people I would recommend on this list are

                Steve Price (who has direct contact with the brothers)
                Chris Herz
                Digger (can't forget ya dig...loved those Orbital pics!)
                Morpheus

                So, welcome Rafa, and hello from San Diego, California

    Bye,

    Trent See


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From: Shaun Rader <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: Orbital+ and the best live
Date: 19 Jan 1997 18:06:38 -0800

deckard wrote:

> My name is Rafa from Spain and I new on the list. I have a little
> question...What is exactly "ORBITAL+" ? Is "ORBITAL II"? or what?.

Orbital II is the brown album.  It has classics like Impact, Lush,
and Halcyon.  I'm not sure what Orbital + is about...

> Besides, I would like to buy an Orbital live recording. What is the best
> live?

The only recordings I know of right now are the live Satan EPs
that just came out.  Get all three of them!  They're all about 20
to 25 minutes each.

--
.    .   .  . .end of transmission. .  .   .    .


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From: Shaun Rader <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: Art on SATAN EPs
Date: 19 Jan 1997 18:10:08 -0800

Michael A. Polisky[SMTP:[e-mail]] wrote:

> mouth is open and 3 he is chomped down.  Any thing behind the art? just
> wondering if anyone knew?

The dogs are from the live show of course.  I'm sure everyone
noticed the '6' on each of the three CDs' title bar (showing a
nice '666' when put together).  Did anyone notice that the
first CD's case (the actual style of the package, you know the
plastic casing..) is a bit different than the last two (or was it
just the one I got)?

--
.    .   .  . .end of transmission. .  .   .    .


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From: Chris Herz <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Orbital+ and the best live
Date: 19 Jan 1997 21:07:40 -0700

me? a vital source of Orbital info?  hmmmm...  im honored...  but steve is
a true Orbital junkie..  lucky guy, he gets to chat w/ the bros..  i envy
that...
    btw, is it illegal to put up some Orbital samples?  i was thinking
of having a 15-30 sec sample of each orbital tune on my techno page, but
didnt want to break any laws....
  later!

http://www.rise.co.uk/orbital  <-- Rafa, this is a must see!
>
>                Some of the people I would recommend on this list are
>
>                Steve Price (who has direct contact with the brothers)
>                Chris Herz
>                Digger (can't forget ya dig...loved those Orbital pics!)
>                Morpheus
>
>                So, welcome Rafa, and hello from San Diego, California
>
>    Bye,
>
>    Trent See



        -Chris Herz

[e-mail]

http://www.interwerks.com        http://www.chs.lane.edu/~chrish



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From: Chris Herz <[e-mail]>
Subject: orbital vid. directors/producers
Date: 19 Jan 1997 21:14:29 -0700

does anyone know who the brothers work with when making their videos, for
both MTV and i guess live stuff?  i'm heading toward that line of work, and
wanted to get some info on what equipment they use, and maybe, if i can
contact them, see what schooling they went through..   any info would be
totally helpful...  later all!!



        -Chris Herz

[e-mail]

http://www.interwerks.com        http://www.chs.lane.edu/~chrish



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From: Digger <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Orbital+ and the best live
Date: 19 Jan 1997 23:25:02 -0500

I will tell you what i was told when i wanted to put some real audio samples
on my site...and when i wanted to copy some ORBITAL onto a tape for a friend
to check them out...and i was hesitent about the laws..
ORBITAL isn't into sueing (SPELLING?) people. they want their music to be
haerd and enjoyed by the people.  Or some thing like that! :)
In my opinion GO FOR IT!!!
Have a nice day night afternoon what ever!
:)

At 09:07 PM 1/19/97 -0700, you wrote:
>me? a vital source of Orbital info?  hmmmm...  im honored...  but steve is
>a true Orbital junkie..  lucky guy, he gets to chat w/ the bros..  i envy
>that...
>    btw, is it illegal to put up some Orbital samples?  i was thinking
>of having a 15-30 sec sample of each orbital tune on my techno page, but
>didnt want to break any laws....
>  later!
>
>http://www.rise.co.uk/orbital  <-- Rafa, this is a must see!
>>
>>                Some of the people I would recommend on this list are
>>
>>                Steve Price (who has direct contact with the brothers)
>>                Chris Herz
>>                Digger (can't forget ya dig...loved those Orbital pics!)
>>                Morpheus
>>
>>                So, welcome Rafa, and hello from San Diego, California
>>
>>    Bye,
>>
>>    Trent See
>
>
>
>        -Chris Herz
>
>[e-mail]
>
>http://www.interwerks.com        http://www.chs.lane.edu/~chrish
>
>
>
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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: Orbital+ and the best live
Date: 20 Jan 1997 01:47:53 -0500 (EST)

In a message dated 97-01-20 00:12:03 EST, you write:

<< >
 >                Some of the people I would recommend on this list are
 >
 >                Steve Price (who has direct contact with the brothers)
 >                Chris Herz
 >                Digger (can't forget ya dig...loved those Orbital pics!)
 >                Morpheus
 >
 >                So, welcome Rafa, and hello from San Diego, California
 >
 >    Bye,
 >
 >    Trent See >>

I find that funny that you consider me a source for Orbital.  I live up in
lost Canada where no one has even heard of Orbital.  I guess I'm honoured
that you would say this.
Thanx
Morpheus

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Leaving but will be back soon
Date: 20 Jan 1997 01:51:07 -0500 (EST)

Hey everyone,
I will be leaving the list but I will be back shortly.  I'm changing servers.
 If anyone needs to get hold of me for any reason contact me at
[e-mail].  If anyone is interested in my music, contact me and I'll
mail it to you.  C ya soon.
Morpheus

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: In defense of multiple-mailings
Date: 20 Jan 1997 09:39:20 -0500

     I reckon you should all just go for it -  get the digest if you don't
     enjoy the daily wade through your mailboxes.  It's about the only
     thing that keeps me from going bonkers here, and we wouldn't want that
     now, would we?
     And for some relevant Orbital content - I listened to Satan through
     headphones for the first time a few days ago & got a serious dose of
     the creeps ("SAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAATAAAAN..")

     128 mails this morning cos our external mail wasn't getting through on
     Friday, and ye think ye've got it hard.... ;>

     Sandy.

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: Banned ?!?!
Date: 20 Jan 1997 09:54:40 -0500

     I saw a bit of it on our Irish Chart show, & can't see why they'd ban
     it - TOTP are probably just miffed that the brothers won't put in an
     appearance...


______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________
Author:  Mark S-D <[e-mail]> at Internet2


Hello you lot !
I heard the video for Satan live got banned in the UK, at least on TOTP at
any rate....(because it had bombs & guns in it........ironic ?) Does anyone
know if it will ever be screened because I'd like to see it. I guess it's
similar to the backdrops used at the show.     Anyone ?
                                                             Mark S-D
P.S. I give money or my arms & legs for any Orbital videos !!

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: Dr. Freecloud Rave (non-orbital)
Date: 20 Jan 1997 06:46:12 -0500 (EST)

In a message dated 97-01-19 23:12:17 EST, you write:

<<  Yes Chris, I dig that tune...I just checked CDNOW...I didn't
 see it there...but you can check out her stuff on her 1996 release "Boys for
 Pele" samples if you got Real Audio (oops, an unsolicited advertisement) at
  >>
Ok, I'm gonna clear this up for ya.  I do believe that "Blue Skies" is on
BT's "Ima" album.  I think we talked about him before on this list and
mentioned that song before, but I can't blame ya if you forgot.

Matt

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From: "Jason Del Bosco, KLiNGoN GoD oF SaUsAgEs" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Orbital+ and the best live
Date: 20 Jan 1997 06:43:26 -0500 (EST)



On Mon, 20 Jan 1997 [e-mail] wrote:

> I find that funny that you consider me a source for Orbital.  I live up in
> lost Canada where no one has even heard of Orbital.  I guess I'm honoured
> that you would say this.
> Thanx
> Morpheus

Hrm ... not entirely true, there are a few of us crazy canucks that are
into this style of music ... and especially Orbital, seeing as they
started me off in this craze. And if I can have my way, hopefully there
i'll be a whole lot more people getting into this ...

BTW, seeing as I'm new to the group and all, can anyone suggest any
compilation cd's I should look into? I have most of the Orbital cd's, and
a few various techno/rave/jungle/trip-hop cd's, but I'm always looking for
some good new stuff, and seeing as I don't have any local stores that
carry anything like this, I'm forced to search. (closest decent store is
in Toronto, like a 4 hour drive from here)

WooKiE


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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Autechre & Hardkiss
Date: 20 Jan 1997 06:57:58 -0500 (EST)

Well, I just went on my latest musical expedition, and I picked up Autechre's
"Tri Repetae" (thanx 2 all of you that recommended this) and Scott Hardkiss's
"Yes."  All I can say is....wow!   Autechre's really blown me away--I've been
listening to it almost non-stop since I got it--IMHO, this is what Aphex's "I
care because you do" should have sounded like.  (don't get me wrong, I love
Aphex, but that's far from his best work)  Unfortunately, I don't know if
I'll ever be able to find another Autechre cd--I apparently picked up the
only one w/in 500 mi of me--does CDNOW carry them?

On to Hardkiss---this isn't as good as Autechre, but I'm still pretty
impressed.  He has several tracks of his own, and does remixes of many
others, including "Papua New Guinea" (twice) and "Belfast."  All three of
these mixes are good, but he doesn't change "Belfast" much.  Anyway, I'm
going to rate him as one of maybe 3 or 4 good American electronic acts.  (in
case you were wondering, Moby, Rabbit in the Moon, and DJ Shadow are the
other good American electronic artists)

Ok, I've yammered on enough--hope someone cares about something I said here.

Your pal,
Matt

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From: Steve <[e-mail]>
Subject: Glastonbury 25
Date: 20 Jan 1997 08:03:01 -0500

Hello Girls and Boys,

I am new to this mailing list, and was wondering if anyone saw Orbital at
glastobury 25?

It was the most amazing orbital live show ever, beat the pants of their
show at Ally pally(NYE)
I'm not saying that they were bad on nye, just glaston. was the most
amazing show ever...... especially when they played Kien Trink Wasser.....

Does anyone know if Glaston. is going to happen this year? And will they be
there again?

Steve

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: re:Samples Law Breaking ?
Date: 20 Jan 1997 13:44:06 GMT


>>>>>>>>>
    btw, is it illegal to put up some Orbital samples?  i was thinking
of having a 15-30 sec sample of each orbital tune on my techno page, but
didnt want to break any laws....
  later!
>>>>>>>>

Well ive got 140 minutes of Live stuff on my web page...
Its definatly breaking the law...but what the hell :)

Steve
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From: [e-mail]
Subject: re:Re: What's Steve's WWW address?
Date: 20 Jan 1997 13:50:13 GMT



----------------------[Reply - Original Message]----------------------
>>> http://www.cableinet.co.uk/users/BaDmUtha
>>>
>>> That's the new one he wants testing I think....

>> I got this when I tried. By the way I'm in the states.
>>File Not found
>>The requested URL /BaDmUtha was not found on this server.

I think...i believe its case sensitive....BaDmUtHa rather than badmutha.
Someone did mention this...

And as Mark mentioned it is a test site so expect changes to it...

Cheers

Steve
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From: [e-mail]
Subject: re:Speaking of the UK version of Orbital 1..
Date: 20 Jan 1997 14:00:10 GMT



> Does anyone know of any other place someone from the US could
>purchase the original UK version of the first Orbital CD?  I would
>love to hear the bonus tracks and the original version of "Speed
>Freak".

The first original UK release is all from the same time span...which i
prefer. Also the original Speed Freak is so much better than the Moby
Mutant (sorry Mutation ;) ).

>How is that live version of Midnight anyway?  I LOVE Midnight...
>Is there crowd noise or anything?  I also can't imagine the CD
>starting with The Moebius (so used to Belfast..)!

Starting with Belfast...now that is mad.
Midnight and Chime are molded together (intwined lovely! :) ) and there is
no sign of any heckling knobs (unlike Satan).

Cheers

Steve
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From: lysergic ad naseum <[e-mail]>
Subject: re:Re: What's Steve's WWW address?
Date: 20 Jan 1997 07:58:11 -0600


>>> I got this when I tried. By the way I'm in the states.
>>>File Not found
>>>The requested URL /BaDmUtha was not found on this server.
>
>I think...i believe its case sensitive....BaDmUtHa rather than badmutha.
>Someone did mention this...
>

how very disappointing... i tried it, case correct and all and got the same
error...  its a plot to keep us americans uninformed so we have to post our
questions to the list and make you look good isn't it steve? :)


                                                -lysergic


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             # The Lysergic Dream - The Dark Beyond The Stars #
    gone     # the new full length release, available NOW!!!! #  will be
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From: [e-mail]
Subject: re:LOOPZ SITE
Date: 20 Jan 1997 14:16:57 GMT

Ok...having my doubts about the site. (Loopz Sample Page).

Ive tried it the last few days...can connect and download the stuff.
I sometimes have to reload....

Im a bit curious about the URL name not found so heres what to do...

Cut and Paste this
http://wkweb1.cableinet.co.uk/BaDmUtHa/
and try it....problems shout me please....Thanks for your time.

Now some Orbital news...

Orbital have no plans to do Glastonbury...but there is talk of maybe one
festival (maybe Phoenix ?). The US live cd is still going through its
motions. Tracks confirmed are SATAN .... thats it ;)

Other tracks in the pipeline are Halcyon, Impact and Chime. But thats all
..only an EP no longer a LP.

Thats

Ya

Lot!

P.s. The Aphex Twin posting on IDM was very funny! MIKE!

Steve
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From: [e-mail] ( John Moylan)
Subject: Re: Feile 95
Date: 20 Jan 1997 14:22:57 GMT

Yep, I say Orbital at Feile '95 Just after the Stone Roses, what a great weakend.

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: Glastonbury 25
Date: 20 Jan 1997 13:59:56 -0500

     I've heard rumor that it's on again this year, AND that Orbital are
     playing
     Fingers x'd......


______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________
Author:  Steve <[e-mail]> at Internet2


Hello Girls and Boys,

I am new to this mailing list, and was wondering if anyone saw Orbital at
glastobury 25?

It was the most amazing orbital live show ever, beat the pants of their
show at Ally pally(NYE)
I'm not saying that they were bad on nye, just glaston. was the most
amazing show ever...... especially when they played Kien Trink Wasser.....

Does anyone know if Glaston. is going to happen this year? And will they be
there again?

Steve

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From: [e-mail] ( John Moylan)
Subject: RE: satan+live++
Date: 20 Jan 1997 14:32:13 GMT


About Orbital live with crowd noise, noone could possibly be expected to understand why the crowd noise was included on satan cd's unless they have seen Orbital live, then they would understand the sort of crowd atmosphere which as well as the music make Orbital a great live act and which by having the noise on the cd's the are in some ways recreating this atmosphere.

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From: Fraser Macdonald <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: LOOPZ SITE
Date: 20 Jan 1997 14:30:26 +0000

[e-mail] wrote:
>
> Ok...having my doubts about the site. (Loopz Sample Page).
>
> Ive tried it the last few days...can connect and download the stuff.
> I sometimes have to reload....
>
> Im a bit curious about the URL name not found so heres what to do...
>
> Cut and Paste this
> http://wkweb1.cableinet.co.uk/BaDmUtHa/
> and try it....problems shout me please....Thanks for your time.
>

Worked for me...but the link at the top of the page is broken. I
take it its supposed to point to the Loopz index page?

Cheers,

Fraser

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From: Siamese Dream <[e-mail]>
Subject: Scary Satan
Date: 20 Jan 1997 15:23:33 +0000 (GMT)

>
>      And for some relevant Orbital content - I listened to Satan through
>      headphones for the first time a few days ago & got a serious dose of
>      the creeps ("SAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAATAAAAN..")
>
It's great throuh headphones, but even scarier is getting woken up in the
by your Radio alarm clock to the cries of SATAN SATAN SATAN at full blast.

Whooaaa freaks you out!!!

james
:-)))
[e-mail]


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From: "Roger Brown" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Re- What's Steve's WWW
Date: 20 Jan 1997 15:44:04 U

                      RE>>Re: What's Steve's WWW address?          =
20/1/97

I worked it out! It IS case sensitive and the correct case order is: =
BaDmUtHa (note the capital H. I'm busy downloading the audio files now.

Roger Brown


>>> I got this when I tried. By the way I'm in the states.
>>>File Not found
>>>The requested URL /BaDmUtha was not found on this server.
>
>I think...i believe its case sensitive....BaDmUtHa rather than badmutha.
>Someone did mention this...
>

how very disappointing... i tried it, case correct and all and got the =
same
error...  its a plot to keep us americans uninformed so we have to post =
our
questions to the list and make you look good isn't it steve? :)


                                                -lysergic


everything's ##################################################  you too
             # The Lysergic Dream - The Dark Beyond The Stars #
    gone     # the new full length release, available NOW!!!! #  will be
             #  http://hudson.idt.net/~lyserg19 for more info #
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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re[2]: Feile 95
Date: 20 Jan 1997 15:17:14 -0500

     Could be the best weekend of my life... Orbital reached God-status
     that weekend...


______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________
Author:  [e-mail] ( John Moylan) at Internet2


Yep, I say Orbital at Feile '95 Just after the Stone Roses, what a great
weakend.

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: Art on SATAN EPs
Date: 20 Jan 1997 11:38:20 -0500 (EST)

I guess I am one of the few lucky individuals here in the states who has all
three Satan Eps...the covers took me a while to figure out but I get it...

jamie

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Halcyon video...
Date: 20 Jan 1997 12:18:32 -0500 (EST)

I caught AMP on MTV this past saturday and the first video was "Halcyon" !!!
It was interesting -- anyone else ever see it?
I didn't get it--the woman washing dishes in a very red-colored room...pretty
wacky!

Another question for all who know what they are talking about (steve?):
Bootleg concert footage--any floating around?
Halcyon Bootlegs from this past tour w/BJ-BC samples--any floating around?

If anyone can help, please email me privately!

jamie

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From: Jon Green <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Aphex Twat & other random crap (some Orbital related, some  not)
Date: 20 Jan 1997 17:24:35 +0000

At 01:59 19/01/97 -0500, [e-mail] wrote:
>.Are there any actual words in Are We Here?

Don't think so, but maybe they were words but got processed into oblivion.


Jon Green: [e-mail]
"The less effort one puts in, the greater
satisfaction one gains from a good result"



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From: Jon Green <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Speaking of the UK version of Orbital 1..
Date: 20 Jan 1997 17:29:16 +0000

At 23:57 18/01/97 -0800, Shaun Rader wrote:

>How is that live version of Midnight anyway?  I LOVE Midnight...
>Is there crowd noise or anything?  I also can't imagine the CD
>starting with The Moebius (so used to Belfast..)!

The live version of Midnight's the same as the single but faster. I reckon
it sounds better that way, the single's too slow. No crowd noise though. I
can't imagine the CD *not* starting with The Moebius, the sample at the
start just seems so right, esp. considering it starts the second album too.
I think Belfast is the perfect last track, particularly the way it slows
down at the end, so I can't see it starting the album.

Jon


Jon Green: [e-mail]
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From: Jon Green <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: What's Steve's WWW address?
Date: 20 Jan 1997 17:34:40 +0000

At 13:52 19/01/97 -0800, Steve Goss wrote:

> I got this when I tried. By the way I'm in the states.
>
>File Not found
>
>The requested URL /BaDmUtha was not found on this server.
>
><--------------->
>Steve Goss
>[e-mail]
><--------------->
>

I keep getting the same message too

jon


Jon Green: [e-mail]
"The less effort one puts in, the greater
satisfaction one gains from a good result"



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From: Jon Green <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: Art on SATAN EPs
Date: 20 Jan 1997 17:38:39 +0000

At 18:10 19/01/97 -0800, Shaun Rader wrote:
> Did anyone notice that the
>first CD's case (the actual style of the package, you know the
>plastic casing..) is a bit different than the last two (or was it
>just the one I got)?

Do you mean those nasty little bars of plastic inside the spine that hold
the paper away from the plastic so that you can't read what's written? God I
hate those cases, why do people make them?

jon


Jon Green: [e-mail]
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From: Digger <[e-mail]>
Subject: Loopz Site
Date: 20 Jan 1997 11:46:59 -0500

Attention Everyone!

        If you can't get Steve's URL to work PLEASE try this one!
        Because the site is GREAT!  It has samples from the live SATAN
        CDs!!!

        Http://orbital.home.ml.org

        Thats it Thanx!
??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
     This Message Comes To You Compliments Of DIGGER

[e-mail]        Http://www.jorsm.com/~digger

             Thank You!!
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From: [e-mail]
Subject: re:Halcyon video...
Date: 20 Jan 1997 17:52:21 GMT

>> I caught AMP on MTV this past saturday and the first video was
>>"Halcyon" !!!
>>It was interesting -- anyone else ever see it?

There is the long and short version of this video.

>I didn't get it--the woman washing dishes in a very red-colored
>room...pretty wacky!

It was actually filmed in Yvonnes (Orbital Mom) Kitchen...
Its very strange...the long version is excellent...loads of weird and
confusing things happening around the women. I personally like the bit
where Phils head pops out the sink and the women tries to push him back
down. Cheesy smiles all round.

>Another question for all who know what they are talking about (steve?):

Nah...not me ;)

>Bootleg concert footage--any floating around?
>Halcyon Bootlegs from this past tour w/BJ-BC samples--any floating
>around?

I picked up a video footage from LA (SNiv Tour) which was excellent. I
cant trade it but i know another member of the list (Aaron) has it too, he
might trade.

>If anyone can help, please email me privately!

Shit...never seen this until now....sod it!

Cheers

Steve

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From: Digger <[e-mail]>
Subject: SATAN Releases
Date: 20 Jan 1997 12:02:09 -0500

Hi Guys! (uh oh this is my second mesage for today! I only have 1 more)
        Ha Ha:)

AnyWay!  Does anyone know if the Live Satan CDs have been released here in
the US yet??

If so I want to go get them pranto!  Just took a listen to STEVE's samples
and I KNOW I want those CDs!!

Thats all for now!
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=BF=BF=BF=BF=BF=BF=BF=BF


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From: Jon Green <[e-mail]>
Subject: re:LOOPZ SITE
Date: 20 Jan 1997 17:58:02 +0000

At 14:16 20/01/97 GMT, [e-mail] wrote:

>Cut and Paste this
>http://wkweb1.cableinet.co.uk/BaDmUtHa/
>and try it....problems shout me please....Thanks for your time.

Tried it and it worked!!! Though Netscape is displaying the URL all in lower
case, so I don't think it's case sensitive.
Looks pretty impressive at a glance, guess I'd better find time to look
properly.

Jon


Jon Green: [e-mail]
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From: [e-mail]
Subject: AWesome
Date: 20 Jan 1997 13:04:22 -0500 (EST)

Alright kiddies.  I have been a part of this list for a while now.  I always
read the responses, but some of them just suck.  ANd you know who I am
talking to.

Well I always go and buy the artists that you guys talk about, and so far I
have not been disapppointed.  I am still trying to get my damn hands on those
new Orbital 3 cds.  I have looked everywhere, and everyone tells me the same
bloody thing.  CHeck back within the next couple of weeks.  Problem is that I
can't wait another week, and I want the damn thing now.  Also, I want the
other new Prodigy release "Breathe" with the live songs on it.  I heard it
yesterday from a friend and it is amazing.  Someone let me know if they know
how I can pick up a quick copy of these.

Later
Rich

p.s.  I caught the orbital show that came to gainesville, florida, and
thought that they kicked ass

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: Halcyon video...
Date: 20 Jan 1997 13:07:57 -0500 (EST)

I thought that was Paul's head!!

You know everything!! You are the man--just thought you would want to know I
appreciate all the input you give and all the facts you let us know about...I
appreciate everything you do no matter what anyone thinks.

What other videos have they produced? Is there anyway to get a hold of them -
(I got a hold of the X-rated Nine Inch Nails 'Happiness in Slavery' video
from Nothing Records for $10)...just wondering

jamie

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From: "Andy C Toth" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Halcyon video...
Date: 20 Jan 1997 13:50:36 -0500

> I caught AMP on MTV this past saturday and the first video was "Halcyon"
!!!
> It was interesting -- anyone else ever see it?
> I didn't get it--the woman washing dishes in a very red-colored
room...pretty
> wacky!

Yep, I saw that one too.  It was one of the eriest (sp?) things I have have
ever seen.  I noticed that the gender of the woman washing the dishes
changed from a woman to a boy (was that just me?), i really can't remember
it.  The video reminded me of the beginnings of nuclear power, I dunno
why...maybe because of the lengthy rubber gloves;)?  The only other video I
have seen was "The Box", and that gets old very quick, MTV has that under
"Heavy Rotation -- New and Marketable Genre."

Andy


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From: Daniel =?iso-8859-1?Q?Ka=9Aaj?= <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: What's Steve's WWW address?
Date: 20 Jan 1997 20:53:43 +0100

At 13:52 19.01.1997. -0800, Steve Goss wrote:


> I got this when I tried. By the way I'm in the states.
>File Not
found
>The requested URL /BaDmUtha was not found on this server.

I know I'm a bit late , but if you still haven't seen the page, here's a
little help.
Check your spelling there. Every other letter is in caps, so it won't be
BaDmUtha but BaDmUtHa. Also, by the message you got from the server, I think
it tried to acces the adress cableinet.co.uk/BaDmUtha ... and instead of that
should try cableinet.co.uk/users/BaDmUtHa.

Enough, I'm starting to ramble :-)

ps.
the site works just fine by me...
--
    Daniel Kasaj, [e-mail]        http://fly.cc.fer.hr/~leqash
    ______________________________________________________________________

        ...light of the neon shining through his body from within...



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From: Geoffrey Elgey <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Autechre
Date: 21 Jan 1997 07:01:22 +0000

G'day,

[e-mail] wrote:
>Well, I just went on my latest musical expedition, and I picked up Autechre's
>"Tri Repetae" (thanx 2 all of you that recommended this) and Scott Hardkiss's
>"Yes."  All I can say is....wow!   Autechre's really blown me away--I've been
>listening to it almost non-stop since I got it--IMHO, this is what Aphex's "I
>care because you do" should have sounded like.  (don't get me wrong, I love
>Aphex, but that's far from his best work)

Wow - I just got 'Tri Repetae++' delivered to me yesterday from CD-Universe.
How's that for synchronicity? And my reaction was indeed the same: Wow. Was
it this list that was having the vinyl vs CD debate? Well, I reckon that any
vinyl version of the second CD of 'Tri Repetae++' (which is actually the
'Anvil Vapre' EP) would need to mix down the bass a bit for the first song.
Shit, that rumbling would cause the needle to jump about all over the place!

Has anyone heard the new Autechre EP, 'Envane'? Any reviews?

>Unfortunately, I don't know if
>I'll ever be able to find another Autechre cd--I apparently picked up the
>only one w/in 500 mi of me--does CDNOW carry them?

I guess CD-Now carries them, but I've always found CD-Universe to be cheaper
:-) Happy hunting.

Cheers,
Geoff


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From: Shaun Rader <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: Halcyon video...
Date: 20 Jan 1997 13:14:50 -0800

[e-mail] wrote:
> I caught AMP on MTV this past saturday and the first video was "Halcyon" !!!
> It was interesting -- anyone else ever see it?
> I didn't get it--the woman washing dishes in a very red-colored room...pretty
> wacky!

Nooo!  I missed it?!?  I gotta check the TV guide to see if they'll
repeat this episode (I'm sure they'll show it dozens of times-- I
hope!).  They don't show enough Orbital on that show in my
opinion.  They just LOVE Underworld though..

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From: Shaun Rader <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: Speaking of the UK version of Orbital 1..
Date: 20 Jan 1997 13:17:40 -0800

Jon Green[SMTP:[e-mail]] wrote:

> The live version of Midnight's the same as the single but faster. I reckon
> it sounds better that way, the single's too slow. No crowd noise though. I
> can't imagine the CD *not* starting with The Moebius, the sample at the
> start just seems so right, esp. considering it starts the second album too.
> I think Belfast is the perfect last track, particularly the way it slows
> down at the end, so I can't see it starting the album.

Very true, this was the way the CD was intended to be played
right?  But I do think Midnight is a great song to end with (it's
the last on the American version).  That song is so relaxing
and mesmerizing.  I only wish it was a few minutes longer to
keep you on that trip.. it seems to end the whole CD abruptly.

The Midnight/Choice single has an extended version, I wonder
why they cut it on the American release.

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From: Shaun Rader <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: Art on SATAN EPs
Date: 20 Jan 1997 13:19:24 -0800

Jon Green[SMTP:[e-mail]] wrote:

> Do you mean those nasty little bars of plastic inside the spine that hold
> the paper away from the plastic so that you can't read what's written? God I
> hate those cases, why do people make them?

Yeah, it seems like I can read CD1's better than the other two
CDs.  Also, the plastic circle that holds in your CD is a bit
different on the last two CDs.  Maybe I'm paying too much
attention but I noticed that right away for some reason.

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From: Shaun Rader <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: SATAN Releases
Date: 20 Jan 1997 13:21:59 -0800

Digger wrote:

> AnyWay!  Does anyone know if the Live Satan CDs have been released here in
> the US yet??

You'll have to get them by import over here in the US.  Expect to
pay around 10 dollars a piece if you find it in a store.  If not,
you could always get them for about 13 a piece at cdnow online..

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From: Chris Herz <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Halcyon video...
Date: 20 Jan 1997 13:38:33 -0700

i heard in some interview, that one of the bros' kids was in the Halcyon
vid...  i missed AMP sat. cuz of the rave, but saw a short clip...  all i
remember is some yellow room... im sure i'll catch it sooner or later...



>I thought that was Paul's head!!
>
>You know everything!! You are the man--just thought you would want to know I
>appreciate all the input you give and all the facts you let us know about...I
>appreciate everything you do no matter what anyone thinks.
>
>What other videos have they produced? Is there anyway to get a hold of them -
>(I got a hold of the X-rated Nine Inch Nails 'Happiness in Slavery' video
>from Nothing Records for $10)...just wondering
>
>jamie



        -Chris Herz

[e-mail]

http://www.interwerks.com        http://www.chs.lane.edu/~chrish



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From: tsee <[e-mail]>
Subject: re:LOOPZ SITE
Date: 20 Jan 1997 13:42:12 -0800

>http://wkweb1.cableinet.co.uk/BaDmUtHa/
>and try it....problems shout me please....Thanks for your time.
>

>Steve
>  |      _ \   _ \   _ \ __  /
>  |     |   | |   | |   |   /
>  |     |   | |   | ___/   /
> _____|\___/ \___/ _|    ____|
>             Price
>
>
                        RIGHT ON!!!!!  THANKS!!!!!!

    Bye,

    Trent See


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From: tsee <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Halcyon video...
Date: 20 Jan 1997 13:46:11 -0800

>I caught AMP on MTV this past saturday and the first video was "Halcyon" !!!
>It was interesting -- anyone else ever see it?
>I didn't get it--the woman washing dishes in a very red-colored room...pretty
>wacky!
>

                DAMN!!!! I missed it!!!! Oh I am pissed!!!!

    Bye,

    Trent See


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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: Speaking of the UK version of Orbital 1..
Date: 20 Jan 1997 17:09:28 -0500 (EST)

In a message dated 97-01-20 12:41:39 EST, you write:

<<  I
 can't imagine the CD *not* starting with The Moebius, the sample at the
 start just seems so right, esp. considering it starts the second album too.
 I think Belfast is the perfect last track, particularly the way it slows
 down at the end, so I can't see it starting the album.  >>
Us silly Americans are so used to hearing Belfast first, that it would seem
odd not to hear it opening the album.  But the Moebius does make sense to
open up with, now that you mention that sample.

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From: Shaun Rader <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: Halcyon video...
Date: 20 Jan 1997 13:25:13 -0800

Andy C Toth[SMTP:[e-mail]] wrote:

> have seen was "The Box", and that gets old very quick, MTV has that under
> "Heavy Rotation -- New and Marketable Genre."

Are you sure about that?  I don't watch MTV much but I've checked
BIllboard magazine a few weeks ago and "The Box" wasn't listed
under heavy roation.  How often do they show it now?  I haven't seen
it during prime time in awhile.

--
.    .   .  . .end of transmission. .  .   .    .


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From: Tim Wynne <[e-mail]>
Subject: Channel 4 Transmission (UK)
Date: 20 Jan 1997 20:44:29 +0000

Hi all,
        About 3 (4??) years ago Channel4 (UK) broadcast the best of
 Glastonbury festival. The Show finished with Orbital playing for ages.
 Orbital were said to be the band of the festival. That was the first
 time I heard any dance (loosely said) music which was worth the vinyl
 it was printed on.

 <Cheese:on>
   That song changed my life.
 <Cheese:off>

 I now have no idea what that tune was or what it sounded like but if
 anybody could give me any info on it.....Cheers!.
--
Tim "Yawn" Wynne                | Hadlow,
[e-mail]         | Sevenoaks, Kent, England.

"I love the smell of napalm in the morning.....
                .........napalm smells like victory....." = Apocalypse Now.

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From: Shaun Rader <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: satan+live++
Date: 20 Jan 1997 13:25:31 -0800

 John Moylan[SMTP:[e-mail]] wrote:

> About Orbital live with crowd noise, noone could possibly be expected =
to understand why the crowd noise was included on satan cd's unless they =
have seen Orbital live, then they would understand the sort of crowd =
atmosphere which as well as the music make Orbital a great live act and =
which by having the noise on the cd's the are in some ways recreating =
this atmosphere.
>=20

I disagree.  I've seen them a few times live and I still would
love to have no crowd noises.  I think of these a remixes of the
original song, not really live versions for some reason.  Wouldn't
you love to hear that ambient intro to Satan clearly without
the crowd behind it?

To each his own--

--=20
.    .   .  . .end of transmission. .  .   .    .


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From: "Anthony Agee" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Autechre
Date: 20 Jan 1997 17:58:00 -0600


Anvil Vapre's "noise" sound.....if you've heard the song you will know what
I'm talking about...is absofuc*inglutlely brilliant!!!  That's my favorite
song in the whole 2-cd set.


[e-mail]


COMING TO A THEATER NEAR YOU

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From: Chris Herz <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Loopz Site
Date: 20 Jan 1997 16:09:41 -0700

thanks Dig!!!  i gotta get these CDs!  steve, many thanks for putting those
samples up!


>Attention Everyone!
>
>        If you can't get Steve's URL to work PLEASE try this one!
>        Because the site is GREAT!  It has samples from the live SATAN
>        CDs!!!
>
>        Http://orbital.home.ml.org
>
>        Thats it Thanx!
>??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
>     This Message Comes To You Compliments Of DIGGER
>
>[e-mail]        Http://www.jorsm.com/~digger
>
>             Thank You!!
><img src=3D"http://www.jorsm.com/~digger/images/diggersig2.gif">
>=BF=BF=BF=BF=BF=BF=BF=BF=BF=BF=BF=BF=BF=BF=BF=BF=BF=BF=BF=BF=BF=BF=BF=BF=BF=
=BF=BF=BF=BF=BF=BF=BF=BF=BF=BF=BF=BF=BF=BF=BF=BF=BF=BF=BF=BF=BF=BF=BF=BF=BF=
=BF=BF=BF=BF=BF=BF=BF=BF



        -Chris Herz

[e-mail]

http://www.interwerks.com        http://www.chs.lane.edu/~chrish



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From: Ernesto Perez <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Aphex Twat & other random crap (some Orbital related, some not)
Date: 20 Jan 1997 19:21:42 -0600

[e-mail] wrote:
>
While I'm still
> talking about him, is any of his stuff under other names good?  I've heard a
> little Polygon Window, and thought it was good, but what about the other
> stuff?  (and why does he use so many pseudonyms?)

his Analogue Bubblebath ep under the AFX pseudonym is incredible. kinda
dancy to boot! available in the States under the TVT (Wax Trax!) label.
>
> Ok, now to Orbital--some of you will deem this a "worthless comment" I'm
> sure, but I just now figured out what song TGWTSIHH is.....duh!! Stupid me!!
>   Also, I'm gonna ask this again since no one seemed to notice this when I
> said it the 1st time....Are there any actual words in Are We Here?

i know in the Oral Mix there is a male voice being repeated, something
like "a-a-a-anyhow" plus a whole disertation over whether or not we are
special. that help?

dj ernie

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From: [e-mail] (Kurt Foy Booker)
Subject: Re: Art on SATAN EPs
Date: 20 Jan 1997 17:49:34 -0800 (PST)

>I guess I am one of the few lucky individuals here in the states who has all
>three Satan Eps...the covers took me a while to figure out but I get it...
>
>jamie

I got them all too.  I've always felt the best version of Satan is the
Rythmn and Rhyme mix from when it was first released.  It's very difficult
for me to listen to the track without hearing that glorious rap on top.
(If anyone has the full lyrics to what the guy is saying, I'd most
appreciate seeing them.  Some lines I've never been able to figure out.)

I think my fav track from the EP's is the remix of Impact on CD 3.  I
played it at work, and co-workers were telling me, "This truly is satanic
music..."

My first post to this list, btw.  How do I get the Digest version?

Kurt Foy Booker
[e-mail]
http://www.sna.com/foy323/
http://www.towerrecords.com/




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From: [e-mail] (Kurt Foy Booker)
Subject: RE: Art on SATAN EPs
Date: 20 Jan 1997 17:53:40 -0800 (PST)

>Jon Green[SMTP:[e-mail]] wrote:
>
>> Do you mean those nasty little bars of plastic inside the spine that hold
>> the paper away from the plastic so that you can't read what's written? God I
>> hate those cases, why do people make them?
>
>Yeah, it seems like I can read CD1's better than the other two
>CDs.  Also, the plastic circle that holds in your CD is a bit
>different on the last two CDs.  Maybe I'm paying too much
>attention but I noticed that right away for some reason.
>

Hmmmm.... I've got no idea what you guys are talking about.  All mine are
the exact same.  The store I got them at had only one of each, and I
snapped them all up.  Guess I got lucky, huh?  (I'm a looong time fan - so
I deserve it!)

Kurt Foy Booker
[e-mail]
http://www.sna.com/foy323/
http://www.towerrecords.com/




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From: Ernesto Perez <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Aphex Twat & other random crap (some Orbital related, some not)
Date: 20 Jan 1997 19:21:42 -0600

[e-mail] wrote:
>
While I'm still
> talking about him, is any of his stuff under other names good?  I've heard a
> little Polygon Window, and thought it was good, but what about the other
> stuff?  (and why does he use so many pseudonyms?)

his Analogue Bubblebath ep under the AFX pseudonym is incredible. kinda
dancy to boot! available in the States under the TVT (Wax Trax!) label.
>
> Ok, now to Orbital--some of you will deem this a "worthless comment" I'm
> sure, but I just now figured out what song TGWTSIHH is.....duh!! Stupid me!!
>   Also, I'm gonna ask this again since no one seemed to notice this when I
> said it the 1st time....Are there any actual words in Are We Here?

i know in the Oral Mix there is a male voice being repeated, something
like "a-a-a-anyhow" plus a whole disertation over whether or not we are
special. that help?

dj ernie

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From: Sproston Green <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Autechre
Date: 20 Jan 1997 21:59:27 -0500

At 07:01 AM 1/21/97 +0000, you wrote:
>G'day,
>
>Wow - I just got 'Tri Repetae++' delivered to me yesterday from CD-Universe.
>How's that for synchronicity? And my reaction was indeed the same: Wow. Was
>it this list that was having the vinyl vs CD debate? Well, I reckon that any
>vinyl version of the second CD of 'Tri Repetae++' (which is actually the
>'Anvil Vapre' EP) would need to mix down the bass a bit for the first song.
>Shit, that rumbling would cause the needle to jump about all over the place!
>
>Has anyone heard the new Autechre EP, 'Envane'? Any reviews?

From the IDM List .....

<Ae>

1. 902 Quarter: The smoothly-sequenced polyrhythmical static of traditional
Autechre with groovy hip-hop record scratching. This track contains
everything you love about Autechre... with that distant synth melody
lighting dusting all the beats in lush tranquility, yet this record
scratching thing is totally new. Best thing is, it works well in the mix,
not just Ae with scratches. :)

2. Latent Quarter: This track starts off a little weak, yet given a few
minutes, the dense layers of static slowly seep into this wallowing bass
wobble that just makes me melt in aural glee.

3. Laughing Quarter: By far the hardest, fastest and best track on this ep,
drawing back fond memories of Anvil Vapre's wacky beat structuring, only
the beats have been further decomposed into mushy static (if decomposed
leaves were static, mushy static is the best way to describe the majority
of tracks on "Chiastic Slide"). Melody on this track is quite prominent.

4. Draun Quarter: the longest and probably least interesting track of the
set, featuring a slightly more complicated rhythm, but the melodies I find
to be kinda drab after a while... eventually the beats stop and the melody
noodles off into the distance. End of track. :)

Having heard both Envane and Chiastic Slide, I can tell you that Envane is
certainly a warm-up for their new album. Chiastic Slide is probably
Autechre's least accesable release yet, and has taken me a while to get
into the groove. But it's worth it. Tracks like Tewe and Nuane are some of
the most abstract excursions in the noisier side of the electronic
spectrum. But Ae have put so much care into the construction of each track,
at once the noise becomes quite infectious, and sent me into space after
the fifth or sixth listen. I've never been so impressed before as I have by
Ae's constant stream of fine releases.

Preparing for the new Ae: Expect nothing, and you'll get everything. It
ain't Incunabula, Amber or Tri Repetae. It's Chiastic Slide, and don't you
forget it.

</Ae>

S p r o s t o n  G r e e n
   [e-mail]
      http://www.tiac.net/users/jrobin/


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From: Mark S-D <[e-mail]>
Subject: Channel 4 Transmission (UK)
Date: 20 Jan 1997 22:36:40 -0500

 About 3 (4??) years ago Channel4 (UK) broadcast the best of
 Glastonbury festival. The Show finished with Orbital playing for ages.
 Orbital were said to be the band of the festival. That was the first
 time I heard any dance (loosely said) music which was worth the vinyl
 it was printed on.
 I now have no idea what that tune was or what it sounded like but if
 anybody could give me any info on it.....Cheers!.
--
 Hi there.! I'm lucky enough to have videoed it. I think if you are
 talking about the very last track when the credits were going up that
 was Are We Here from the LP Snivilisation. Before that the broadcast
 showed a few tracks blended into one another, including the excellent
 Impact (USA) with it's acidic breakdown....this had visuals of
 deforrestation and the words "Remember Earth Clearly", which always
 sticks in my mind. I think another track was either Monday or Halcyon,
 regardless these other tracks are to be found on the Brown LP AKA
 Orbital II. Impact is a shorter version on the LP but the USA version
 can be found either on Diversions or new Satan Live CD's. There are ways
 of getting hold of the Glastonbury concert on cassette if this isn't what
 your after. They ended up headlining Glastonbury, it might have been a
 happy accident that happening but they stormed it, no dought about it.
                                        Regards,    Mark S-D

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From: Mark S-D <[e-mail]>
Subject: orbital vid. directors/producers
Date: 20 Jan 1997 22:42:39 -0500

>does anyone know who the brothers work with when making their videos, for
>both MTV and i guess live stuff?  i'm heading toward that line of work, and
>wanted to get some info on what equipment they use, and maybe, if i can
>contact them, see what schooling they went through..   any info would be
>totally helpful...  later all!!

I think the screen visuals are done by Pressure of Speech (?), I've got no idea
who deals with the technical side of it (the road crew listed on the Satan CD?)
I'd like to get into programming light sequences, so I echo what Chris has
put above ! I think being keen (and even better talented) are good
qualifications to have here. Go for it but don't be too much of a pest !!
Best wishes, Mark S-D

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Return to the Source
Date: 21 Jan 1997 06:15:44 -0500 (EST)

Am still looking for a copy of Halcyon with all vocals (Belinda Carlile?) and
guitar samples intact.  I ordered what I thought was that single from CDNOW,
but got the "Radiccio" single instead.  Checked out Orbital's website, which
said it's only available on vinyl and CD...Can anyone confirm this?  Any help
would be greatly appreciated.

Peace n Luv,

Charles

PS  Anyone catch Return to the Source at the Roseland Ballroom in NY this
weekend?  I missed it and am kicking myself for doing so!!!  How was it?
 Heard it was the best party in NY so far...

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From: lysergic ad naseum <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Return to the Source
Date: 21 Jan 1997 05:32:06 -0600

if i'm not mistaken, the BC vocals are only in the live version and the
version on the radiccio single _does_ have the guitar in question... as
stated above, i may be mistaken... lets ask the expert... steve?


                                                -lysergic


At 06:15 AM 1/21/97 -0500, [e-mail] wrote:
>Am still looking for a copy of Halcyon with all vocals (Belinda Carlile?) and
>guitar samples intact.  I ordered what I thought was that single from CDNOW,
>but got the "Radiccio" single instead.  Checked out Orbital's website, which
>said it's only available on vinyl and CD...Can anyone confirm this?  Any help
>would be greatly appreciated.
>
>Peace n Luv,
>
>Charles
>
>PS  Anyone catch Return to the Source at the Roseland Ballroom in NY this
>weekend?  I missed it and am kicking myself for doing so!!!  How was it?
> Heard it was the best party in NY so far...
>
>


everything's ##################################################  you too
             # The Lysergic Dream - The Dark Beyond The Stars #
    gone     # the new full length release, available NOW!!!! #  will be
             #  http://hudson.idt.net/~lyserg19 for more info #
  lysergic   ################################################## assimilated



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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: Channel 4 Transmission (UK)
Date: 21 Jan 1997 08:11:25 -0500 (EST)

In a message dated 21/01/97  03:40:04, you wrote:

">  About 3 (4??) years ago Channel4 (UK) broadcast the best of
  Glastonbury festival.

[deletia]

  I now have no idea what that tune was or what it sounded like but if
  anybody could give me any info on it.....Cheers!.
 --
  Hi there.! I'm lucky enough to have videoed it.

[more editing]"

Yep, this was Orbital at Glastonbury '94. Technically Bjork was the
headlining act and Orbital were on to wind down, but it all got a bit
confused :O)

Radio 1 played about 40 minutes of the ~1hr set about a week later, and I
know a few people have this on tape. In addition, what Mark said about the TV
broadcasts rings true- I have the Impact section, but not the Are We Here?,
which is a shame as that's not on the R1 broadcast. There's a full tracklist
on the Stopped Clock website:
http://members.aol.com/orbital101/discrs.html

On a personal note, that was the first time I saw them live and as other
people have mentioned it was a 'they are gods!' moment. The videos, music,
thousands of people dancing and atmosphere all made it an amazing experience.

Enough gibbering. I might post about the FAQ later (sorry, two posts in one
day...)

Cheers, Paul.  [e-mail]. monsters exist.

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From: Jon Green <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: orbital vid. directors/producers
Date: 21 Jan 1997 13:34:26 +0000

At 22:42 20/01/97 -0500, Mark S-D wrote:

>I think the screen visuals are done by Pressure of Speech (?),

Speaking of POS, can anybody recommend either of their albums? I've got the
X-beats 12" with the Orbital and Drum Club mixes, and I LOVE the original,
dark and minimal. Do the albums match up?

JOn


Jon Green: [e-mail]
"The less effort one puts in, the greater
satisfaction one gains from a good result"



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From: [e-mail]
Subject: re:Re: Loopz Site
Date: 21 Jan 1997 17:38:29 GMT

The problem was (and this was confirmed by a few) that you need to do the
case sensitive thingy on badmutha. It should be BaDmUtHa not badmutha.

But dont forget this site is test purpose only and the real new site will
not be the Url listed. Ill post that in a couple of weeks (when done).

I might be interviewing Paul on Friday...depends on work and that.
And ive submitted an interview to FSOL ... but they tend to only reply to
me once in a while.

Nothing left to say but i agree with the crowd noise debate...as in that
it is each to their own.

BTW its my birthday on Sunday...so email me a drink or summit.

>        If you can't get Steve's URL to work PLEASE try this one!
>        Because the site is GREAT!  It has samples from the live SATAN
>        CDs!!!

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: re:Re: Return to the Source
Date: 21 Jan 1997 17:42:55 GMT


> if i'm not mistaken, the BC vocals are only in the live version and the
>version on the radiccio single _does_ have the guitar in question... as
>stated above, i may be mistaken... lets ask the expert... steve?

:)
ask the expert :)

Right...Halcyon (with BC or BJ or both) is not available on any format.
But the live Ep in the US might have it (if u can wait that long). It all
depends on whether the royalties for samples is brought up.

And yep the guitar is in Halcyon.

Lysergic was right on both counts :)

Steve LOOPZ Price

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From: "R. TAYLOR" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Satan EP in America?
Date: 21 Jan 1997 13:39:19 -0700 (MST)

On Mon, 6 Jan 1997, Shaun Rader wrote:

> I'd like to know if everyone in America all ready got the Satan EPs.  I
> feel really low because I can't find them anywhere!  Anyone else
> having a hard time finding them?
>
> It's strange because I found "The Box EP" a few days after its UK
> release.
>
> --
> .    .   .  . .end of transmission. .  .   .    .
>Same here our radio station didn't get it either.
[e-mail]
>

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From: "Price, Duncan" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Satan EP in America?
Date: 21 Jan 1997 16:52:00 -0500


Does anyone in the Chapel Hill NC area know where to get some EPs?    I
promise I won't tell anyone else....
;o)
Duncan
 ----------
Cc: 'zOrbital Mailing List'

On Mon, 6 Jan 1997, Shaun Rader wrote:

> I'd like to know if everyone in America all ready got the Satan EPs.  I
> feel really low because I can't find them anywhere!  Anyone else
> having a hard time finding them?
>
> It's strange because I found "The Box EP" a few days after its UK
> release.
>
> --
> .    .   .  . .end of transmission. .  .   .    .
>Same here our radio station didn't get it either.
[e-mail]
>

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: Halcyon video...
Date: 21 Jan 1997 17:42:09 -0500 (EST)

In a message dated 97-01-20 16:28:39 EST, you write:

<< They don't show enough Orbital on that show in my
 opinion.  They just LOVE Underworld though..
  >>
Not to point out the obvious, but they probably find Underworld more
marketable--I mean face it, most people here in the states need to have
lyrics in their songs, and Underworld provides that.

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Internal disco
Date: 21 Jan 1997 16:54:56 GMT

Can someone provide me with a discography of Internal records, or at
least all the producers signed to Internal, I know of...

Orbital
CJ Bolland
Salt Tank
The Advent
Genaside II - (who are/is these/this people/person and what sort of
music is it?)

take it easy
  _________________  ______  ___________   ___
 |          /      \|      \|      \    | |   |
 |__     __|        |       |       |   |_|   |
    |   |  |        |       |       |\_     _/
    |   |  |        |       |       |  |   |
    |___|   \______/|______/|______/   |___|

                             =20
     =20

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From: "Aaron S. Gregory" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Internal disco
Date: 21 Jan 1997 22:16:58 -0500

[e-mail] wrote:
>
> Can someone provide me with a discography of Internal records, or at
> least all the producers signed to Internal, I know of...
>
> Orbital
> CJ Bolland
> Salt Tank
> The Advent
> Genaside II - (who are/is these/this people/person and what sort of
> music is it?)

let us NOT forget mark gage aka VAPOURSPACE (aka cusp, but only the vapourspace
stuff is on internal)...

as far as an internal discog goes, i know NOT of one.

for gage-related activity...

http://grove.ufl.edu/~gregas/vapour.html

ASG
Vapour Maintainer

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From: [e-mail] (Benjamin Knowles)
Subject: compilations, Underworld
Date: 21 Jan 1997 00:26:59 -0500


>BTW, seeing as I'm new to the group and all, can anyone suggest any
>compilation cd's I should look into?...
>
>WooKiE

I recently picked up a compilation put out by URB magazine that is pretty
damn good - Logic Trance 2. It has quite a few of the bands and song titles
that pop up on this list quite often. It is fairly outdated by now though -
the Orbital song on there is Lush 3.1 (I thought the fade-out might be kind
of interesting - you know, without 3.2 right after - but it's really
cheesy). Other tracks include Orb's "Little Fluffy Clouds" and FSOL's
"Papua New Guinea" - both classics. There is an okay Underworld song called
"REZ" and a cut by Cosmic Baby called "Spacetrack" that I just love. It's a
two-CD set, and probably well worth whatever you pay for it if you don't
have most of these, which i did, but oh well. I found it used, which I'm
sure is the only way you'd be able to get a hold of it.

If you like jungle, LTJ Bukem is always the way to go.

Underworld question: I love the song "Change" which is on Volume's "Wasted"
compilation. Is that from an album or what? I know it's not on
"dubnobass..." Is Underworld's other early stuff anything like that, and if
so, what should i look for?

Tri Repetae, track 6 ("eutow"???) is amazing.

To whomever recommended Poi Dog Pondering's "Electrique Plummagram," I give
thanks...

-ben


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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (orbital) faq
Date: 21 Jan 1997 13:51:52 -0500 (EST)

Done a little more work on the FAQ. It's even bigger now, so I thought I'd
post the list of questions. Those with a * after them need some more work, so
if you want to help go ahead. Feel free to suggest more questions as well.

1. List.

1.1. How do I join the list?
1.2. How do I leave the list?
1.3. I'm getting too much mail from the list, but I want to keep reading it.
What can I do about it?
1.4. How many people are on the list?
1.5. Can I read or download old digests?

2. Discography.

2.1. Where can I find an Orbital discography?
2.2 I don't have web access. Where now?
2.3 That's too much hassle. Can I have a short version?
2.4 Why doesn't my copy of the Green album have Satan on it?
2.5 What about Halcyon? *
2.6 Is Diversions an album? *
2.7 There're so many singles I don't own! How do I get them all? *
2.8 Who has remixed Orbital/ been remixed by Orbital? *
2.9 I've got an Orbital mix of Depeche Mode from 1988. Is it an early rarity?
*

3. Vocals.

3.1 Who did the vocals on Dwr Budr?
3.2 Who did the vocals on Halcyon?
3.3 Who's the singer of The Box? What are the words?
3.4 What are the samples? Where do they come from?
3.5 Where do the song titles come from? *

4. Others.

4.1 When are Orbital next touring/ releasing a record?
4.2 Does anyone have a live copy of [insert gig]? *
4.3 What are the brothers musical influences? *
4.4 I love Orbital! What other music can you recommend which is similar?

5. Further Reading.

5.1 What webpages are there for Orbital? *

 -oOo-

The full version is at http://members.aol.com/pmison/ofaq.htm
and will be posted to the list when it's a bit more complete.
I'll probably add something on the videos if someone has a list of them (or
maybe link to a page on someone's new website?).

Anyway, hope this is all worthwhile.

Paul Mison.
monsters exist.
[e-mail].

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From: jeff <[e-mail]>
Subject: question
Date: 22 Jan 1997 00:10:41 -0500


i went to http://www.demon.co.uk/pastel/ for the uk version of orbital 1
which is listed as:  P-TRUCD9 CD,  i saw another cd that i was unfamiliar
w/and i was wondering what it is...it is listed as:  ORBITAL & PE - ORBITAL
P-TRUCD2AB CD  15.43...does anyone have an idea?... i thought it might be
the peel sessions, but thats not it...

thanks for any help...

-jeff




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From: Jon <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: question
Date: 22 Jan 1997 12:04:13 +0000 (GMT)



On Wed, 22 Jan 1997, jeff wrote:

>
> i went to http://www.demon.co.uk/pastel/ for the uk version of orbital 1
> which is listed as:  P-TRUCD9 CD,  i saw another cd that i was unfamiliar
> w/and i was wondering what it is...it is listed as:  ORBITAL & PE - ORBITAL
> P-TRUCD2AB CD  15.43...does anyone have an idea?... i thought it might be
> the peel sessions, but thats not it...
>
> thanks for any help...
>
> -jeff
>
>
>
>
i think it's the aussie import version of the Brown album which comes with
the Peel sessions on a second cd.  as far as i know, the track listings
are unchanged.

.....jON.....


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From: Jon Green <[e-mail]>
Subject: re:crowd noise
Date: 22 Jan 1997 12:15:05 +0000

At 17:38 21/01/97 GMT, [e-mail] wrote:

>Nothing left to say but i agree with the crowd noise debate...as in that
>it is each to their own.
>
Yeah, but I wish they'd give those of us who only want CDs the choice (or
Choice, for that matter!!).
Mugs like me would probably buy two copies, one with and one without crowd
noise :-)

Jon


Jon Green: [e-mail]
"The less effort one puts in, the greater
satisfaction one gains from a good result"



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From: Jon Green <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: compilations, Underworld
Date: 22 Jan 1997 12:28:02 +0000

At 00:26 21/01/97 -0500, Benjamin Knowles wrote:
>
>>BTW, seeing as I'm new to the group and all, can anyone suggest any
>>compilation cd's I should look into?...
>>
>>WooKiE
>
>I recently picked up a compilation put out by URB magazine that is pretty
>damn good - Logic Trance 2. It has quite a few of the bands and song titles
>that pop up on this list quite often.
It's alright, but I find a lot of the tracks plain boring.

>the Orbital song on there is Lush 3.1 (I thought the fade-out might be kind
>of interesting - you know, without 3.2 right after - but it's really
>cheesy).

Yeah, it sucks!!

> Other tracks include Orb's "Little Fluffy Clouds" and FSOL's
>"Papua New Guinea" - both classics.

And not the full length mixes :-(

>There is an okay Underworld song called "REZ"

okay!!!! I beg your pardon?? Rez is a monster, one of Underworld's best!!

> and a cut by Cosmic Baby called "Spacetrack" that I just love.
Me too, that track's on Trance Europe Express 1, along with Semi detached (cool)

>If you like jungle, LTJ Bukem is always the way to go.
I prefer Fabio (his Muzik Masters mix is just so brilliant!)
>
>Underworld question: I love the song "Change" which is on Volume's "Wasted"
>compilation. Is that from an album or what? I know it's not on
>"dubnobass..." Is Underworld's other early stuff anything like that, and if
>so, what should i look for?
It's a remix of Why why why, which was the original b side to Rez. Don't
know what that track's like, but Change is reasonably representative of the
early stuff (and dead good too). The Delta Lady (Leftfield vs Secret
Knowledge) track on there is great too.

Jon


Jon Green: [e-mail]
"The less effort one puts in, the greater
satisfaction one gains from a good result"



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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: Internal disco, question
Date: 22 Jan 1997 07:48:23 -0500 (EST)

In a message dated 22/01/97  03:26:45, [e-mail] (Aaron S.
Gregory) wrote:

" [e-mail] wrote:
 >
 > Can someone provide me with a discography of Internal records, or at
 > least all the producers signed to Internal, I know of...
 >
 > Orbital
 > CJ Bolland
 > Salt Tank
 > The Advent
 > Genaside II - (who are/is these/this people/person and what sort of
 > music is it?)

 let us NOT forget mark gage aka VAPOURSPACE (aka cusp, but only the
 vapourspace stuff is on internal)...

 as far as an internal discog goes, i know NOT of one."

Aren't Deadstock (for those with TEX4, disc 1 track 1) on Internal too? As
for an Internal discog., I'd love to see one if anyone can do one. There's a
couple of compilation albums istr (not with their cat. nos, I'm afraid)-
Coastal Breaks and Counterforce.

Also, [e-mail] (jeff) wrote
"it is listed as:  ORBITAL & PE - ORBITAL
P-TRUCD2AB CD  15.43...does anyone have an idea?"

This could well be the Australian double CD with Brown on one disc and the
Peel Sessions on the second. (Reasoning: Brown is TRUCD2, but this is 2AB; it
costs more and PE is probably Peel).

Paul Mison. [e-mail]. monsters exist.
http://members.aol.com/pmison/

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From: Jon Green <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Internal disco, question
Date: 22 Jan 1997 12:56:17 +0000

At 07:48 22/01/97 -0500, [e-mail] wrote:

>Aren't Deadstock (for those with TEX4, disc 1 track 1) on Internal too?
yes

> As
>for an Internal discog., I'd love to see one if anyone can do one.

Me too. Is there a London Records/FFRR?Internal website that anyone knows
of? That might be worth trying (if it exists, if not why not?)

Jon


Jon Green: [e-mail]
"The less effort one puts in, the greater
satisfaction one gains from a good result"



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From: "Seamus (James) Swift" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: compilations, Underworld
Date: 22 Jan 1997 14:09:25 -0000


: "REZ" and a cut by Cosmic Baby called "Spacetrack" that I just love.
Spacetrack is one of my all time favorites of all time, it's twiddle'tastic
mate :)

I have it on one the best trance compilations ever "Trance Europe Express
One"(TEX1).
Incedently Orbitals Semi-Detached is on that. It's where I discovered
Orbital and trance music in general. It's still my favorite Orbital tune.

Bom bom, bom-bom, bom bom, bom-bom.
AAAAAGHHHH I want to go home and listen to it *Now* !

Is it a different version to the one on Peel Sessions(I don't have Peel
Sessions) ?
Can anyone tell me how many different layers of rythm are in the TEX1
version ?




          Seamus (James) Swift
             a.k.a.  "whois"
        mailto:[e-mail]
http://www.griffin.co.uk/users/whois

Boogaloo to you too !

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: re:Re: What's Steve's WWW address?
Date: 22 Jan 1997 15:01:24 GMT


Bah!

Some people are still having trouble!
I know that Americans/Brits/Croatians have visited the page and it worked.
The site (http://wkweb1.cableinet.co.uk/BaDmUtHa/) is 24 hours online so i
cant see where u lot are going wrong.

If you cut and paste http://wkweb1.cableinet.co.uk/BaDmUtHa/
it works...honest :)

Ive just connected again...its works.

And ive just checked 99 People have visited!!!

Other things to mention is Glastonbury....dont think they are doing it but
Pheonix might be a possibility. Radio1 mentioned that there will be an Ep
out this month (load of bollox). What do they know! :)

I might have one copy left of the Satan Eps to flog....need to check a few
things first. The 12 inch has been sold (ill mail the person today) and
thanx for those who joined in and up-yours to Toddy (who called me
greedy!) ;)

Ive found out the proper way to pronouce Dwr Budr from a Welsh person at
my work. I dont know how to tell u but say this...
Doo-er Bid-a

Thats the lot (for now!)

Cheers
Steve
  |      _ \   _ \   _ \ __  /
  |     |   | |   | |   |   /
  |     |   | |   | ___/   /
 _____|\___/ \___/ _|    ____|
             Price


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From: [e-mail]
Subject: re:Re: LOOPZ SITE
Date: 22 Jan 1997 15:03:13 GMT



>>Worked for me...but the link at the top of the page is broken. I
>>take it its supposed to point to the Loopz index page?

Its an animated Gif (maybe your browser doesnt support it).
Netscape and Explorer both work.

Cheers

Steve
  |      _ \   _ \   _ \ __  /
  |     |   | |   | |   |   /
  |     |   | |   | ___/   /
 _____|\___/ \___/ _|    ____|
             Price

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From: Fraser Macdonald <[e-mail]>
Subject: Satan Artwork (again)
Date: 22 Jan 1997 15:04:42 +0000

Well, everyone's been talking about the pictures of the dog,
but what about the fork? On the back of each CD (the small
inlay part), there's a picture of a (different) part of a fork.
Presumably, this is meant to represent the devil's
pitchforky-thing....

Cheers,

Fraser

P.S. Someone said that Blue Skies is on BT'S album Ima.
Not true, on single only at the moment, but it will be
on the next BT album. Damn, can't remember what its gonna
be called...EBCM...ECBM...some acronym like that, anyway.
Oh, but there'a a great mix of Blue Skies which is based on
the track Divinity from Ima. Utterly superb.

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From: Fraser Macdonald <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: LOOPZ SITE
Date: 22 Jan 1997 15:18:27 +0000

[e-mail] wrote:
>
> >>Worked for me...but the link at the top of the page is broken. I
> >>take it its supposed to point to the Loopz index page?
>
> Its an animated Gif (maybe your browser doesnt support it).
> Netscape and Explorer both work.
>
> Cheers
>
> Steve
>   |      _ \   _ \   _ \ __  /
>   |     |   | |   | |   |   /
>   |     |   | |   | ___/   /
>  _____|\___/ \___/ _|    ____|
>                          Price

Nah, the gif works fine. I meant the link below that. Shit, lost
the URL...I think the link just said LOOPZ.

Cheers,

Fraser

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From: "Michael A. Polisky" <[e-mail]>
Subject: I met the Brothers, Anyone else?
Date: 22 Jan 1997 11:32:46 -0500


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I wanted to know who on this list has had the honor of meeting Paul or
Phil.

I had the pleasure this past summer. Paul and Phil were hanging out
after the
show. By the end of their show there were only 100-150 people in the
place.
They played after Porno for Pyros, so most people left after they quit.
They
were very approachable even though the guy talking to them before me
was
hounding them to listen to a tape of electronic music that he made. I
think Paul
was relieved that I just  wanted to say hi and thank them. It was a
treat.
Anyone else?
mike!
[e-mail]

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They </DT>

<DT>were very approachable even though the guy talking to them before me
was </DT>

<DT>hounding them to listen to a tape of electronic music that he made.
I think Paul </DT>

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From: "Lazlo Nibble" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Internal disco, question
Date: 22 Jan 1997 11:31:25 -0700 (MST)

>> "it is listed as:  ORBITAL & PE - ORBITAL
>> P-TRUCD2AB CD  15.43...does anyone have an idea?"
>
> This could well be the Australian double CD with Brown on one disc and the
> Peel Sessions on the second. (Reasoning: Brown is TRUCD2, but this is 2AB; it
> costs more and PE is probably Peel).

I own the Australian 2CD (Brown/Peel Sessions) and can confirm that its
catalog number is TRUCD 2A/B...

--
::: Lazlo ([e-mail]; http://www.swcp.com/lazlo)

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From: "Lazlo Nibble" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: compilations, Underworld
Date: 22 Jan 1997 11:33:07 -0700 (MST)

>> Underworld question: I love the song "Change" which is on Volume's
>> "Wasted"  compilation. Is that from an album or what?
>
> It's a remix of Why why why, which was the original b side to Rez. Don't
> know what that track's like, but Change is reasonably representative of
> the early stuff (and dead good too).

For what it's worth, as far as I can determine "Change" and "Why Why Why" are
the same track.

--
::: Lazlo ([e-mail]; http://www.swcp.com/lazlo)

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From: Shaun Rader <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: I met the Brothers, Anyone else?
Date: 22 Jan 1997 10:31:35 -0800

Michael A. Polisky[SMTP:[e-mail]] wrote:

> I wanted to know who on this list has had the honor of meeting Paul or
> Phil.

I met Paul at the second show over here in Hollywood.  He
was very nice and didn't seem to mind the questions (I asked
a few).  He told me back in December that the Live EPs
would be out in March or so.. I wonder if he was talking about
the American version or the UK version.

I asked if Halcyon would be on the live EP (before I realized
that they get sick of us Americans always asking for it).  I
bet he thought I was just a typical American :)

--
.    .   .  . .end of transmission. .  .   .    .


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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: Satan Artwork (again)
Date: 22 Jan 1997 13:55:06 -0500 (EST)

Fraser wrote:

" Well, everyone's been talking about the pictures of the dog,
 but what about the fork? On the back of each CD (the small
 inlay part), there's a picture of a (different) part of a fork.
 Presumably, this is meant to represent the devil's
 pitchforky-thing.... "

Probably. There are black and white pictures on most of the Internal single
CD inlays (can't remember what off the top of my head, but istr a radio,
typewrite and nutcracker). What do they *mean*? :O)

Paul. monsters exist.
http://members.aol.com/pmison/


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From: fanno <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: I met the Brothers, Anyone else?
Date: 22 Jan 1997 12:49:36 -0800 (PST)



On Wed, 22 Jan 1997, Michael A. Polisky wrote:

> I wanted to know who on this list has had the honor of meeting Paul or
> Phil.
>
> I had the pleasure this past summer. Paul and Phil were hanging out
> after the
> show. By the end of their show there were only 100-150 people in the
> place.
> They played after Porno for Pyros, so most people left after they quit.
> They
> were very approachable even though the guy talking to them before me
> was
> hounding them to listen to a tape of electronic music that he made. I
> think Paul
> was relieved that I just  wanted to say hi and thank them. It was a
> treat.
> Anyone else?
> mike!
> [e-mail]
>
Hi there,
  I had the lucky opportunity to meet half of Orbital after the second
show in LA on Dec. 5.  I had become seperated from my friend after the
show,  our 'shrooms were so strong that I could only wait a little bit
after Impact was finished, before I had to escape for some fresh air.
They even had three endings to that song, it was the ultra extended
version.  After waiting for her outside and not finding her I went back
inside were the concert was held, this was about an hour and a half after
it ended, and Paul was sitting on a roadcase talking with someone.  At
first I wasn't sure, but after seeing P and P Hartnolls on MTV 120, I knew
it was him.  I walked over to him and I said, "Man, I've just got to shake
your hand, I thought you guys were incredible!"  He then asked "Did you
enjoy it?"  I then said "Shit yeah, there aren't the right words to
describe a live Orbital experience"  He then said, "well we never know for
sure how the crowd likes what we do, because we don't talk to the fans
that often, but we can feed off of the energy."  I then said, "I think I
can speak for everyone and say that you guys are Tops, nobody comes
close."  He said, "thanks very much" we shook hands again and that was it.
Same hand that shook Bjork's hand about four years ago, but that's another
story.  Hope I didn't offend anyone by taking 'shrooms, but they happen to
be my drug of choice.  Can't beat that natural high, comes from the earth.
My $.02
  Jeff


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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Question??
Date: 22 Jan 1997 16:57:33 -0500 (EST)

Has anyone heard of front line assembly's alter ego ambient project
'synaesthesia'?

I myself love fla, their techno project 'delirium', and synaesthesia is not
too bad either...

But--if you listen to synaesthesia's track "desideratum" from their double cd
...
then listen to orbital's "midnight" track...almost exactly the same ...
I know orbital had midnight first, but it amazes me how close they sound.
"Desideratum" does sound a bit more industrial-dancey with more snare drums
and a little more ambience...but...it's still wierd...

steve any comments? ;-)

jamie

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From: "R. TAYLOR" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: What kind of people rave?
Date: 22 Jan 1997 17:27:20 -0700 (MST)

On Thu, 26 Dec 1996, Anthony Agee wrote:

>
> >So far, I know that the raving people mostly wear baggy jeans with
> >chains. But I'd also like to know what kind of girls and guys go
> >there. For example, are girls really freaky? I've heard that many wear
> >lots of makeup and are those "mysterious, "hard-to-get" types...
>
> >What about guys? People say they're known for their extreme sexuality
> >and overconfidence, but I dont how to judge the either rumors.
>
>
> I've seen some wonderfully beautiful girls at the raves...and I'm sorry, I
> go to raves to listen to music and dance but I cannot ignore beauty!  Of
> course....I said "girls"....not women.  I'm really looking for the latter!
>
> Any girl that wears all that glitter shit in her hair and on her
> face....I'm not interested in that.
>
> And about the "pseudo-mysterious-bisexual-isshegayorwhat?" people....most
> guys/girls don't have time to screw around and try to figure out who you
> are.  Be true to the game and don't mislead.
> [e-mail]
> Here's a woman for you, bud, and I wear glitter in my hair, and blue
clay stripes on my face and body and a leather bikini or silver space
suit as far as being misleading. The reason we with imaginations go to
raves is to let go of the bullshit inhibitions we are surrounded with in
daily life.
    When some hick-acting prick like you comes and starts checking me out
while I'm trying to transcend it's distracting.Let go and grow your
jarhead hair-cut out, square. The year 2000 is upon us get with the flow.
Randarian Princess of Wisdom in the desert.

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From: "R. TAYLOR" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Lousy Clinton Budget Scuttlebutt.
Date: 22 Jan 1997 18:02:33 -0700 (MST)

Music related, I thought setting sun would have been more effective if
they had flipped the beat backwards after the sun set and kept it that
way with the sample overlays as the song forward.
    I found the cover of Orbus Terrarim, Orb in the Grateful Dead
cartoon. It flashes as the skeleton rides the Harley-D. past the
toe-tapping mountains, map on inside flashes too. NOW
    Dear Mr. Anthony Agee,

        I'm glad to see most of us have ascended up the scale as
humanitarians since the Victorian era, but I suppose you are still repressed.
Would you like to measure my skull to make sure I'm Aryan, or can you
assess my genotype class by my typing.
        The reason so many people died in the 1800's because of
starvation in England while the wealthy class grew prepostorously wealthy
was because anyone that could help was thinking as you do in social
darwinism. "It's there own fault somehow morally that these 12-year-old
children are starving to death, but I'll have a good spanking from my
mistress tonight. Oh the tangled webs we weave!
        Aids is now the number one killer of women age 15-40 in
NYC. While you may be able to look down on the faces of these women
because the condom broke, or "it's not my fault she didn't use one the
first time" others of us want all our space brothers and sisters esp. to
make it into the year 2000.
        Letter's like yours serve to remind me how people can
evolve musically and culturally and still think that they are in a higher
caste than the rest of us, and therefore are immune to such diseases; as
far as cancer being innocent. I'm sure Ronald Reagan and James Gardner
weren't thinking of their prostate when they ate another plate of beef.
            Live on brothers and sisters
            Randarian Princess of Wisdom



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From: Geoffrey Elgey <[e-mail]>
Subject: Packaging of Aussie Brown album + Peel Sessions
Date: 23 Jan 1997 11:23:47 +0000

G'day,

Lazlo writes:
>>> "it is listed as:  ORBITAL & PE - ORBITAL
>>> P-TRUCD2AB CD  15.43...does anyone have an idea?"
>>
>> This could well be the Australian double CD with Brown on one disc and the
>> Peel Sessions on the second. (Reasoning: Brown is TRUCD2, but this is 2AB; it
>> costs more and PE is probably Peel).
>
>I own the Australian 2CD (Brown/Peel Sessions) and can confirm that its
>catalog number is TRUCD 2A/B...

What's interesting about the Australian version [which I also own, being an
Aussie :-)], and I don't think that this pointed out in the Lazlo's discog,
is that the track listing on the back of the CD doesn't mention 'Impact'. I
remember umming and ahhing over this CD for a while, because I thought I
would be getting ripped off. It wasn't until I made the record store staff
confirm that there were the correct number of tracks before I bought it.

And Lazlo, the discog details for this should read:

2CD: 1994 OZ (Internal/MDS; TRUCD 2A/B) [packaged with "Peel Sessions"]
                       ^^^

(All Orbital product in Oz is distributed by MDS)

Cheers,
Geoff


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From: "Steve Goss" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Lousy Clinton Budget Scuttlebutt. and more interesting dribble....
Date: 22 Jan 1997 18:10:45 -0800

----------
> From: R. TAYLOR <[e-mail]>
> To: [e-mail]
> Subject: Re: Lousy Clinton Budget Scuttlebutt.
> Date: Wednesday, January 22, 1997 5:02 PM
>
> Music related, I thought setting sun would have been more effective if
> they had flipped the beat backwards after the sun set and kept it that
> way with the sample overlays as the song forward.
>     I found the cover of Orbus Terrarim, Orb in the Grateful Dead
> cartoon. It flashes as the skeleton rides the Harley-D. past the
> toe-tapping mountains, map on inside flashes too. NOW
>     Dear Mr. Anthony Agee,
>
>         I'm glad to see most of us have ascended up the scale as
> humanitarians since the Victorian era, but I suppose you are still
repressed.
> Would you like to measure my skull to make sure I'm Aryan, or can you
> assess my genotype class by my typing.
>         The reason so many people died in the 1800's because of
> starvation in England while the wealthy class grew prepostorously wealthy

> was because anyone that could help was thinking as you do in social
> darwinism. "It's there own fault somehow morally that these 12-year-old
> children are starving to death, but I'll have a good spanking from my
> mistress tonight. Oh the tangled webs we weave!
>         Aids is now the number one killer of women age 15-40 in
> NYC. While you may be able to look down on the faces of these women
> because the condom broke, or "it's not my fault she didn't use one the
> first time" others of us want all our space brothers and sisters esp. to
> make it into the year 2000.
>         Letter's like yours serve to remind me how people can
> evolve musically and culturally and still think that they are in a higher

> caste than the rest of us, and therefore are immune to such diseases; as
> far as cancer being innocent. I'm sure Ronald Reagan and James Gardner
> weren't thinking of their prostate when they ate another plate of beef.
>             Live on brothers and sisters
>             Randarian Princess of Wisdom
>

That's nice, ummm  oh yeah what were we talking about.... I forgot.... NOW
I REMEMBER duh this is [e-mail]. whew! I almost went into a
coma reading this message. Slight amnesia but I think I'm back now. C'mon
Rambling Princess of Boredom we are all impressed with your ego, but it's
time to consider your audience.

I ordered the Halcyon single from a local CD store a while ago and when I
checked today they said they were on back order. Did everytone else on this
list order it when the halcyon discussion was raging? The wait will make it
that much better I'm sure.

I'm hungry I think I'll go eat a cow.

<--------------->
Steve Goss
[e-mail]
<--------------->

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From: "R. TAYLOR" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Lousy Clinton Budget Scuttlebutt. and more interesting dribble....
Date: 22 Jan 1997 20:18:18 -0700 (MST)

Piss off Steve, Agee started it. By saying AIDS was brought on by the
ones afflicted and no research should be done.
    Besides we've been discussing other artists. As far as ego I post
rarely, and usually have more to say.
    I still can't get Evil Santa in the desert, and haven't a credit
card. Would pay for even an audial tape recording. WE are all desperate
for it here being big fans of the B.Hole Surfers and the Residents.
                Randarian
        (Sorry folks the mails killing my e-mail too.)

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From: [e-mail] (Benjamin Knowles)
Subject: Re: compilations, Underworld
Date: 22 Jan 1997 10:56:26 -0500

>Spacetrack is one of my all time favorites of all time, it's twiddle'tastic
>mate :)

This British slang is just too much.  :)

>I have it on one the best trance compilations ever "Trance Europe Express
>One"(TEX1).

I have a question about a band on that compilation - the track before
Spacetrack is by 030 and is called "Midnight In Europe" and is also a great
cut. Has anyone ever seen anything else from these guys? I always look for
that name in stores, and have yet to come up with anything.

>Incidently Orbitals Semi-Detached is on that. It's where I discovered
>Orbital and trance music in general. It's still my favorite Orbital tune.
>Is it a different version to the one on Peel Sessions(I don't have Peel
>Sessions) ?

If the version on Diversions is the same as the one on Peel, then the one
on "Trance Europe..." is the same as both. I, at least, detect no
difference whatsoever.

Has anyone, in the midwest U.S. especially, heard of Sister Soleil yet?
Good stuff, no?

-b


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From: R NELSON <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: What kind of people rave?
Date: 22 Jan 1997 23:50:12 -0800

R. TAYLOR wrote:
>
> On Thu, 26 Dec 1996, Anthony Agee wrote:
>
> >
> > >So far, I know that the raving people mostly wear baggy jeans with
> > >chains. But I'd also like to know what kind of girls and guys go
> > >there. For example, are girls really freaky? I've heard that many wear
> > >lots of makeup and are those "mysterious, "hard-to-get" types...
> >
> > >What about guys? People say they're known for their extreme sexuality
> > >and overconfidence, but I dont how to judge the either rumors.
> >
> >
> > I've seen some wonderfully beautiful girls at the raves...and I'm sorry, I
> > go to raves to listen to music and dance but I cannot ignore beauty!  Of
> > course....I said "girls"....not women.  I'm really looking for the latter!
> >
> > Any girl that wears all that glitter shit in her hair and on her
> > face....I'm not interested in that.
> >
> > And about the "pseudo-mysterious-bisexual-isshegayorwhat?" people....most
> > guys/girls don't have time to screw around and try to figure out who you
> > are.  Be true to the game and don't mislead.
> > [e-mail]
> > Here's a woman for you, bud, and I wear glitter in my hair, and blue
> clay stripes on my face and body and a leather bikini or silver space
> suit as far as being misleading. The reason we with imaginations go to
> raves is to let go of the bullshit inhibitions we are surrounded with in
> daily life.
>         When some hick-acting prick like you comes and starts checking me out
> while I'm trying to transcend it's distracting.Let go and grow your
> jarhead hair-cut out, square. The year 2000 is upon us get with the flow.
> Randarian Princess of Wisdom in the desert.

You tell him O' great princes!!!!!!!!!
I'm fed up with the closed minded attitudes of people who have no
clue!!!!!!!!
Take it easy Reggie [e-mail]

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From: Albert Rivera <[e-mail]>
Subject: Underworld - Rez
Date: 22 Jan 1997 23:48:05 -0800

Not to cause anymore whiny mail, but what does everyone think about the
Underworld track Rez?  IMO, it's the absolute best song Underworld has ever
done.  It's their only instrumental track that isn't drawn out and redundant
to the point where suicide seems like a viable option.  It's too bad that no
clubs out here (California) ever seem to play it.  One of the DJ's at the
Chem Bros show that I was at played it, but he cut it short.

just wondering,
Albert


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From: [e-mail]
Subject: re:Re: Lousy Clinton Budget Scuttlebutt.
Date: 23 Jan 1997 8:43:45 GMT

Ok....

R.Taylor...this is no way anything to do with Orbital. I dont give a shit
about American politics or current affairs...if i want that then ill go to
the appropiate newsgroup. Take elsewhere...take it privatly...think of
others.

Steve

----------------------[Reply - Original Message]----------------------

Sent by:"R. TAYLOR" <[e-mail]>
 Music related, I thought setting sun would have been more effective if
they had flipped the beat backwards after the sun set and kept it that
way with the sample overlays as the song forward.
    I found the cover of Orbus Terrarim, Orb in the Grateful Dead
cartoon. It flashes as the skeleton rides the Harley-D. past the
toe-tapping mountains, map on inside flashes too. NOW
    Dear Mr. Anthony Agee,

        I'm glad to see most of us have ascended up the scale as
humanitarians since the Victorian era, but I suppose you are still
repressed.
Would you like to measure my skull to make sure I'm Aryan, or can you
assess my genotype class by my typing.
        The reason so many people died in the 1800's because of
starvation in England while the wealthy class grew prepostorously wealthy
was because anyone that could help was thinking as you do in social
darwinism. "It's there own fault somehow morally that these 12-year-old
children are starving to death, but I'll have a good spanking from my
mistress tonight. Oh the tangled webs we weave!
        Aids is now the number one killer of women age 15-40 in
NYC. While you may be able to look down on the faces of these women
because the condom broke, or "it's not my fault she didn't use one the
first time" others of us want all our space brothers and sisters esp. to
make it into the year 2000.
        Letter's like yours serve to remind me how people can
evolve musically and culturally and still think that they are in a higher
caste than the rest of us, and therefore are immune to such diseases; as
far as cancer being innocent. I'm sure Ronald Reagan and James Gardner
weren't thinking of their prostate when they ate another plate of beef.
            Live on brothers and sisters
            Randarian Princess of Wisdom



=====================================================================

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From: Shaun Rader <[e-mail]>
Subject: Older live shows...
Date: 23 Jan 1997 01:55:44 -0800

I was wondering, how recent is the 'light glasses' and
the visuals?  I never had the chance of seeing Orbital
live until last year!  What was their live show like when
they first played live?  Just curious.

--
.    .   .  . .end of transmission. .  .   .    .


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From: [e-mail] (Tom Metro)
Subject: BT's "Blue Skies" featuring Tori Amos
Date: 23 Jan 1997 06:07:15 EST

Chris Herz <[e-mail]> writes:
> DJ Sol (a good friend of mine) spun some Tori Amos...  those who dig
> her, have you heard of a tune called "Blue Sky"?

and
Matt <[e-mail]> writes:
> I do believe that "Blue Skies" is on BT's "Ima" album.

I picked up an album called "Ima" by a guy that goes by the name of
"Bt" as it looked interesting, but I had never heard of him. The
album is a 2 CD set and turned out to be pretty decent. It contains
mostly danceable upbeat techo tracks - some with ambient intros - a
couple with limited vocal samples, and two are vocal and pop
sounding, but most are good. Some similarity to Orbital, in that its
the same genre.

The second CD has that track, "Blue Skies," and features Tori Amos
(apparently recorded during a soundcheck before one of her
concerts). There's also a pretty good extended mix of that track as
well as a 43 minute remix track that covers much of the material on
the first CD.

For a random purchase, I was pleased with the results.

> I'm looking for it..
I found mine used, but I see CDNow carries it.

 -Tom

--
Tom Metro                                         [e-mail]
Venture Logic                                     [e-mail]
Newton, MA, USA

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From: [e-mail] (StarPango)
Subject: re:Re: Lousy Clinton Budget Scuttlebutt.
Date: 23 Jan 1997 08:32:14 -0500

>Ok....
>
>R.Taylor...this is no way anything to do with Orbital. I dont give a shit
>about American politics or current affairs...if i want that then ill go to
>the appropiate newsgroup. Take elsewhere...take it privatly...think of
>others.
>
>Steve

Hey Steve!!!........do you think we have another Scot going off again?
:))))))  Oh and what is going on in the UK that the exchange rate is up to
.6082 to the dollar?

and for RATAYLOR.....what's this crap about, coming from NMSU.....or is
that northern michigan state u??....don't know

anyways for those of you that like to pirate stuff......i'm looking to get
a new laptop this spring and i ran across some wonderful little
recordable/rewritable cd-rom drives going for about $500......which means
no more trading cassettes with people (:P

StarPango

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From: Jon Green <[e-mail]>
Subject: 030/Semi detached
Date: 23 Jan 1997 13:49:28 +0000

At 10:56 22/01/97 -0500, Benjamin Knowles wrote:

>I have a question about a band on that compilation - the track before
>Spacetrack is by 030 and is called "Midnight In Europe" and is also a great
>cut. Has anyone ever seen anything else from these guys?

I think they work under several different names, individually and with
others, see if the TEX book mentions any others.
>
>>Incidently Orbitals Semi-Detached is on that. It's where I discovered
>>Orbital and trance music in general. It's still my favorite Orbital tune.
>>Is it a different version to the one on Peel Sessions(I don't have Peel
>>Sessions) ?
>
>If the version on Diversions is the same as the one on Peel, then the one
>on "Trance Europe..." is the same as both. I, at least, detect no
>difference whatsoever.

The Peel version is different to the TEX one, but not much. It mixes out
into Attached (different to on Sniv), sounds well cool


Jon Green: [e-mail]
"The less effort one puts in, the greater
satisfaction one gains from a good result"



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From: Jon Green <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Underworld - Rez
Date: 23 Jan 1997 13:51:41 +0000

At 23:48 22/01/97 -0800, Albert Rivera wrote:
>Not to cause anymore whiny mail, but what does everyone think about the
>Underworld track Rez?

Wonderful

> It's their only instrumental track that isn't drawn out and redundant
>to the point where suicide seems like a viable option.

Well I like them that way (not the suicide bit), nice and long and repetitive.

Jon


Jon Green: [e-mail]
"The less effort one puts in, the greater
satisfaction one gains from a good result"



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From: Joona =?iso-8859-1?Q?P=94yh=94nen?=  <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Older live shows...
Date: 23 Jan 1997 17:26:56 +0200 (EET)

At 01.55 23.1.1997 -0800, you wrote:
>I was wondering, how recent is the 'light glasses' and
>the visuals?  I never had the chance of seeing Orbital
>live until last year!  What was their live show like when
>they first played live?  Just curious.
>

I just want to know, does someone sell these
=B4light glasses=B4 somewhere?
I just want to have them!!!

>--=20
>.    .   .  . .end of transmission. .  .   .    .
>
>
>
joona p=F6yh=F6nen
[e-mail]
Tapiolan Honka, Espoo


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From: ed naylor <[e-mail]>
Subject: Blue Skies
Date: 23 Jan 1997 15:55:07 -0500 (EST)

I tried to send this yesterday, but it didn't seem to arrive,
apologies if anyone saw it.

<[e-mail]> wrote:
> P.S. Someone said that Blue Skies is on BT'S album Ima.
> Not true, on single only at the moment, but it will be
> on the next BT album. Damn, can't remember what its gonna
> be called...EBCM...ECBM...some acronym like that, anyway.

Blue Skies is available on the US version of Ima, which is a
double CD, and is excellent value, especially if you pick it up
like me for $11.99! The version of Blue Skies at the start of the
2nd disc isn't available as far as I know on any of the UK
releases, but was the version that US radio was playing when it
came out there at the start of November.

> Oh, but there'a a great mix of Blue Skies which is based on
> the track Divinity from Ima. Utterly superb.

Well Blue Skies is a version of Divinity, the mix I presume you
refer to is the Rabbit in the Moon one, which is the one mix I've
heard with the most of the original left in. (The Deep Dish mix is
a personal favourite). The Perfecto website even had a listing for
a release in May last year of "Divinity by BT featuring Tori
Amos", which then disappeared some weeks the release of Blue Skies.



-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Aaron Murray <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: I met the Brothers, Anyone else?
Date: 22 Jan 1997 22:29:01 -0600

fanno wrote:
> story.  Hope I didn't offend anyone by taking 'shrooms, but they happen to
> be my drug of choice.  Can't beat that natural high, comes from the earth.
> My $.02
>   Jeff

if someone gets offended because YOU take drugs, that's a personal
problem that they need to deal with.  no one has the right to bitch at
you for your lifestyle choices..  have a nice day.. ;)

        aaron

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Fraser Macdonald <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Blue Skies
Date: 23 Jan 1997 16:25:05 +0000

ed naylor wrote:

> Blue Skies is available on the US version of Ima, which is a
> double CD, and is excellent value, especially if you pick it up
> like me for $11.99! The version of Blue Skies at the start of the
> 2nd disc isn't available as far as I know on any of the UK
> releases, but was the version that US radio was playing when it
> came out there at the start of November.
>

OK, OK, I was talking about the UK version of the album. I
saw the US version once, but didn't have the cash to pick it up
at the time...sniff!

Fraser

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Aaron Murray <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Lousy Clinton Budget Scuttlebutt. and more interesting dribble....
Date: 22 Jan 1997 22:33:56 -0600

R. TAYLOR wrote:
>
> Piss off Steve, Agee started it. By saying AIDS was brought on by the
> ones afflicted and no research should be done.
>

then reply to his ass PRIVATELY!

hehee.. "he started it!" .. now children!

        aaron

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Aaron Murray <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: What kind of people rave?
Date: 22 Jan 1997 22:32:00 -0600

R. TAYLOR wrote:

> >
> > And about the "pseudo-mysterious-bisexual-isshegayorwhat?" people....most
> > guys/girls don't have time to screw around and try to figure out who you
> > are.  Be true to the game and don't mislead.
> > [e-mail]
>  Here's a woman for you, bud, and I wear glitter in my hair, and blue
> clay stripes on my face and body and a leather bikini or silver space
> suit as far as being misleading. The reason we with imaginations go to
> raves is to let go of the bullshit inhibitions we are surrounded with in
> daily life.
>         When some hick-acting prick like you comes and starts checking me out
> while I'm trying to transcend it's distracting.Let go and grow your
> jarhead hair-cut out, square. The year 2000 is upon us get with the flow.
> Randarian Princess of Wisdom in the desert.

i think it's funny how we all talk about raves as times to "transcend"
and such, but we all still revert to slamming each other with our petty
insults..  ever read Timothy Leary's 8-circuit model for the human
conciousness?  some of us seem to be stuck on number 2..

        aaron

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From: Bambi <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: What kind of people rave?
Date: 23 Jan 1997 16:59:32 +0100 (BST)

what the bloody hell are you bunch of high-horse cocks talking about

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From: lysergic ad naseum <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Older live shows...
Date: 23 Jan 1997 10:15:43 -0600

a shop in NY called space age novelties (or space age gifts, i forget which)
is where the brothers picked up their glasses...


              -lysergic, feeling important because he actually knows=
 something


>I just want to know, does someone sell these
>=B4light glasses=B4 somewhere?
>I just want to have them!!!
>


everything's ##################################################  you too
             # The Lysergic Dream - The Dark Beyond The Stars #
    gone     # the new full length release, available NOW!!!! #  will be
             #  http://hudson.idt.net/~lyserg19 for more info #
  lysergic   ################################################## assimilated
           =20


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: fanno <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Older live shows...
Date: 23 Jan 1997 11:57:20 -0800 (PST)



On Thu, 23 Jan 1997, Shaun Rader wrote:

> I was wondering, how recent is the 'light glasses' and
> the visuals?  I never had the chance of seeing Orbital
> live until last year!  What was their live show like when
> they first played live?  Just curious.
>
> --
> .    .   .  . .end of transmission. .  .   .    .
>
As far as I know the headlamps used by the brothers go as far back as
1992, I believe.  A while back, Orbital headlined an MTV sponsored concert
which also included Ultramarine and Meat Beat Manifesto.  At the time
Orbital's only album was the first untitled one with such greats as Satan
and Choice.  They emerged from the darkness wearing their trademark
headlights- and from then on the legend grew.



-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "\"Are These Actual Miles?\"" <[e-mail]>
Subject: orbital boots?
Date: 23 Jan 1997 15:30:01 EST

i was wondering if anyone had gotten their hands on any live tapes.
i'm especially looking for halcyon as well as a copy of the show they did at
the roxy. i heard that they infused a bon jovi sample into a tune and that
it was a phenominal show. e-mail me privately if you so desire. i have lots
of random stuff that i might be able to tempt you with.
thanks,
liebs

[e-mail]

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From: Shaun Rader <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: Older live shows...
Date: 23 Jan 1997 12:41:49 -0800

fanno wrote:

> As far as I know the headlamps used by the brothers go as far back as
> 1992, I believe.  A while back, Orbital headlined an MTV sponsored concert
> which also included Ultramarine and Meat Beat Manifesto.  At the time
> Orbital's only album was the first untitled one with such greats as Satan
> and Choice.  They emerged from the darkness wearing their trademark
> headlights- and from then on the legend grew.

Was this an MTV sponsored concert in the US or the UK?
I would find that hard to believe that MTV sponsored that
concert.  Unless Meat Beat Manifesto or Ultramarine were
popular and I never found out about it..

I would have loved to see one of their earlier shows.  I don't
think I'll ever see Midnight live.

--
.    .   .  . .end of transmission. .  .   .    .


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Chris Herz <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Older live shows...
Date: 23 Jan 1997 13:09:33 -0700

what do these glasses look like?  so they sell em' in NY.. anyone know if i
can order them?  and approx. how much do they cost (US$)??  later

>a shop in NY called space age novelties (or space age gifts, i forget which=
)
>is where the brothers picked up their glasses...
>
>
>              -lysergic, feeling important because he actually knows someth=
ing
>
>
>>I just want to know, does someone sell these
>>=B4light glasses=B4 somewhere?
>>I just want to have them!!!
>>
>
>
>everything's ##################################################  you too
>             # The Lysergic Dream - The Dark Beyond The Stars #
>    gone     # the new full length release, available NOW!!!! #  will be
>             #  http://hudson.idt.net/~lyserg19 for more info #
>  lysergic   ################################################## assimilated
>



        -Chris Herz

[e-mail]

http://www.interwerks.com        http://www.chs.lane.edu/~chrish



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From: Matt Gundlach <[e-mail]>
Subject: Orbital & Bon Jovi
Date: 23 Jan 1997 13:11:25 -0800

I might be able to get you a tape of a show that Orbital did in Seattle
that they put a Bon Jovi and Belinda Carlilse sample in. I'm not sure if
this is the only one thay did it in but...
Just reply if you're interested

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: Older live shows...
Date: 23 Jan 1997 16:50:58 -0500 (EST)

In a message dated 97-01-23 15:35:40 EST, you write:

<< I just want to know, does someone sell these
 ┤light glasses┤ somewhere?
 I just want to have them!!! >>
I'm not absolutely certain about this, but I'm sure someone will correct me
if I'm wrong.....As far as I know, those "light glasses" are night-vision
gear, and are pretty expensive---I have no idea where you could get them, but
maybe at a military store or something....

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "Ravis1" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Older live shows...
Date: 23 Jan 1997 15:15:22 -0600

I think we had this discussion before.  The glasses used to be sold at the
sharper image.  Cheap versions used to be available all over.  I think
Radio Shack sells them.

Ravis1
[e-mail]

----------
> From: [e-mail]
> To: [e-mail]
> Subject: Re: Older live shows...
> Date: Thursday, January 23, 1997 3:50 PM
>
> In a message dated 97-01-23 15:35:40 EST, you write:
>
> << I just want to know, does someone sell these
>  ┤light glasses┤ somewhere?
>  I just want to have them!!! >>
> I'm not absolutely certain about this, but I'm sure someone will correct
me
> if I'm wrong.....As far as I know, those "light glasses" are night-vision
> gear, and are pretty expensive---I have no idea where you could get them,
but
> maybe at a military store or something....

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From: fanno <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: Older live shows...
Date: 23 Jan 1997 15:26:19 -0800 (PST)



On Thu, 23 Jan 1997, Shaun Rader wrote:

> fanno wrote:
>
> > As far as I know the headlamps used by the brothers go as far back as
> > 1992, I believe.  A while back, Orbital headlined an MTV sponsored concert
> > which also included Ultramarine and Meat Beat Manifesto.  At the time
> > Orbital's only album was the first untitled one with such greats as Satan
> > and Choice.  They emerged from the darkness wearing their trademark
> > headlights- and from then on the legend grew.
>
> Was this an MTV sponsored concert in the US or the UK?
> I would find that hard to believe that MTV sponsored that
> concert.  Unless Meat Beat Manifesto or Ultramarine were
> popular and I never found out about it..
>
> I would have loved to see one of their earlier shows.  I don't
> think I'll ever see Midnight live.
>
> --
> .    .   .  . .end of transmission. .  .   .    .
>
The concert was only US.  The  british wanker that used to host MTV 120
minutes was the host.  I think his name was Dave ?.  The concert I went
was in San Diego at the old Soma, if anybody else remembers that place.
THe songs I remember them playing were Choice, Belfast, Moebius ripped,
Satan, Farenheit 3D3, they also played a B-side from Raddicio, the jungle
sounding tune with the sample "all ladies get up and dance" or something
to that extent,  I think Halcyon was played too. minus BJ and BC.  And
Midnight also, but it was so long ago, and Orbital were brand new to me,
that I can't remember specifically the tunes that were played.  I do
remember thinking that for a live techno band Orbital blew away my
expectations.  Big :-)  It wasn't until last summer 96 at Organic did I
have a chance to see them again.  And again they did not disappoint.

Hope that helps.

 Bye for now,

    Jeff Fanno


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From: "Steve Goss" <[e-mail]>
Subject: orbital-owner
Date: 23 Jan 1997 15:15:16 -0800

Could Loopz or somebody help me out on this one,

I keep getting email that say From: [e-mail] the To: is
blank and the message area is blank also. What's up?

<--------------->
Steve Goss
[e-mail]
<--------------->

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Blue skies
Date: 23 Jan 1997 19:43:35 -0500 (EST)

The real good version of BT's Blue Skies is on singles.  There are two
different singles for the album.  A blue one and a silver one.  The silver
one is great, as well as the blue.  I think these versions are better than
the one on Brian Transeau's double disc (BT~IMA)

Good luck finding them.  It took me at least a month to get it.  But I
finally got both, and they kick ass

Rich

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From: Ernesto Perez <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Underworld - Rez
Date: 23 Jan 1997 19:26:45 -0600

no offense, but REZ is just as repetitive as Born Slippy and is a direct
rip off of COWGIRL. incidentally, the reason it doesn't get played alot
is because it was limited pressing (B-Side to Cowgirl on Junior Boys'
Own 12") in europe and thus, trickled down to a few measly copies here
in the States.

dj ernie

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: Underworld - Rez
Date: 23 Jan 1997 21:30:37 GMT


>At 23:48 22/01/97 -0800, Albert Rivera wrote:
>>Not to cause anymore whiny mail, but what does everyone think about the
>>Underworld track Rez?=20
>
>Wonderful

never heard it.

>> It's their only instrumental track that isn't drawn out and redundant
>>to the point where suicide seems like a viable option.
>
>Well I like them that way (not the suicide bit), nice and long and =
repetitive.

just please no more vocals, it's the only reason I don't really like
underworld, I do like the track "Rowla" a lot though, that's a really
great choon. Juanita is also good even though it has vocals.

take it easy
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From: [e-mail] (Jon Romley)
Subject: Be, BLA and other things (not tottally orbital related)
Date: 23 Jan 1997 18:14:00 -0800

****This Message Is Not Orbital Related*****
You've been warned.... twice.

Hey Hey...

A few things I would like to ramble about..

I just founded BLA - The Los Angeles Be Users Group, if you have a BeBox,
The BeOS for your powermac, or just think the things are cool, check out
our website at http://www.iRevolution.com/BLA/ or email me if you would
like to join.

The BeBox things are REALLY cool if you're doing choons on computers...
Seriously, the things come with MIDI I/O BUILT IN when you buy them!!! And
they have the normal Audio I/O at 44.1Khz,etc. You can connect your
equipment to this box the minute you take it out of it's box!

I know the above was a plug for Be, but I strongly reccommend looking into
picking one up if you're doing media stuff.


Also, I picked up the latest issue of Keyboard Mag... There's an ad in the
back for the K 2500. Well, here's the deal- Should I buy the keyboard, or a
BeBox? I'm torn between the two :-(

Later...
-Jon

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From: tsee <[e-mail]>
Subject: Possible title for an Orbital song...
Date: 23 Jan 1997 20:20:42 -0800

                Good morning/afternoon/evening,

                I have been thinking really hard about a possible
topic/title that Orbital could write a song about/to.  I remember, Steve,
that you told us about how Orbital has somewhat of a concern for the
environment.  So I was thinking then, hmm, well they have done songs about
bad/polluted/undrinkable water...why not keep the flow going with another
water topic: the oil spill of the Exxon Valdez (which was repaired in the
city I live, San Diego, California).

                I can hear the beginning of the song in my head, like sounds
of large drops of oil dropping and dropping in a rythmical sequence,
pictures of black pools and oil-drenched animals also come into my mind.
They could call the song Xon (that way no names are blatently named :-)) or
something like that.

                I dunno, just an idea I had.  Maybe you an pass it on to the
brothers Steve ;-).  Just thought I would post something to start a good
subject for Orbital (not political) discussion.

    ETX,

    Trent See


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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: Possible title for an Orbital song...
Date: 24 Jan 1997 02:01:03 -0500 (EST)

It's not exactly a current event, but it's not a bad idea.....I think you'd
have to call the song X-on instead of Xon, tho.  If you called it Xon, you'd
get morons like me pronouncing it "Zon."

My .02
Matt

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: Underworld - Rez
Date: 24 Jan 1997 02:04:12 -0500 (EST)

In a message dated 97-01-23 21:24:35 EST, you write:

<< just please no more vocals, it's the only reason I don't really like
 underworld, I do like the track "Rowla" a lot though, that's a really
 great choon. Juanita is also good even though it has vocals. >>
Oh, c'mon--Underworld's got some pretty cool vocals.....particularly Cowgirl
and Juanita.  Anyway, to actually get to the point of this message, is Rez
available anywhere besides on TEX1?

thanx,
Matt

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From: Chris Herz <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Possible title for an Orbital song...
Date: 24 Jan 1997 00:24:06 -0700

are the bros just interested in water quality?  what about land? or air?
geesh, if they ever were up here in Eugene, Oregon, they could hear all of
the hoop-la about people cutting all the trees down..  or the Hyandai (sp)
chip plant thats being built next to a wetland...  endless hours of people
shouting...
     btw, i can totally imagine Trent's tune...  for me it starts out
as a single rythmic droplet sound, then progresses to a similar tune like
Dwr Budr...

later




>                Good morning/afternoon/evening,
>
>                I have been thinking really hard about a possible
>topic/title that Orbital could write a song about/to.  I remember, Steve,
>that you told us about how Orbital has somewhat of a concern for the
>environment.  So I was thinking then, hmm, well they have done songs about
>bad/polluted/undrinkable water...why not keep the flow going with another
>water topic: the oil spill of the Exxon Valdez (which was repaired in the
>city I live, San Diego, California).
>
>                I can hear the beginning of the song in my head, like sounds
>of large drops of oil dropping and dropping in a rythmical sequence,
>pictures of black pools and oil-drenched animals also come into my mind.
>They could call the song Xon (that way no names are blatently named :-)) or
>something like that.
>
>                I dunno, just an idea I had.  Maybe you an pass it on to the
>brothers Steve ;-).  Just thought I would post something to start a good
>subject for Orbital (not political) discussion.
>
>    ETX,
>
>    Trent See



        -Chris Herz

[e-mail]

http://www.interwerks.com        http://www.chs.lane.edu/~chrish



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From: Fraser Macdonald <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Underworld - Rez
Date: 24 Jan 1997 09:48:06 +0000

[e-mail] wrote:
>
> In a message dated 97-01-23 21:24:35 EST, you write:
>
> << just please no more vocals, it's the only reason I don't really like
>  underworld, I do like the track "Rowla" a lot though, that's a really
>  great choon. Juanita is also good even though it has vocals. >>
> Oh, c'mon--Underworld's got some pretty cool vocals.....particularly Cowgirl
> and Juanita.  Anyway, to actually get to the point of this message, is Rez
> available anywhere besides on TEX1?
>

Yeah, try Flux Trax 1

Fraser

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From: burenayl <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Underworld - Rez
Date: 24 Jan 1997 10:44:21 -0500 (EST)

> >  Anyway, to actually get to the point of this
> > message, is Rez available anywhere besides on TEX1?
>
> Yeah, try Flux Trax 1
>
> Fraser

There's a few pretty cool comps. that have Rez - Logic
Trance 2 being the obvious one, as well as one of the
Cream of Underground House series (can't remember the
number, but also has Positive Education by Slam) and also
the Junior Boys Own Collcetion (or was that Cowgirl?)

Or even better get the "Dirty Epic" EP/LP that's widely
available in the UK for about 8 quid, and has some of the
finest early UW stuff thats not on dubnobass.  Or even
better still, get the JBO 12" of Rez/Cowgirl and murder
that dancefloor.



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From: Sanjay Arora <[e-mail]>
Subject: Criminal Justice Bill?
Date: 24 Jan 1997 08:59:47 -0500

Am I just retarded, or is Criminal Justice Bill? on the Are We Here?
single supposed to be 4 minutes of silence.  Is there some political
message that I'm missing or is my CD messed up and I should just go and
return the stupid thing?

Later,
Sanjay

P.S.  If it is, in fact, supposed to be silence, what a way to fulfill
any contractual obligations to the record company. :)

P.S.S  FYI, the MTV guy's name was Dave Kendell, and apart from the fact
that it was an MTV function, it was easily one of the best shows I have
ever seen.  Ultramarine, Orbital AND Meat Beat Manifesto...all in one
night...too cool!

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From: Mitchel Waas <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Underworld - Rez
Date: 24 Jan 1997 09:04:15 -0500

At 07:26 PM 1/23/97 -0600, Ernesto Perez wrote:
>no offense, but REZ is just as repetitive as Born Slippy and is a direct
>rip off of COWGIRL. incidentally, the reason it doesn't get played alot
>is because it was limited pressing (B-Side to Cowgirl on Junior Boys'
>Own 12") in europe and thus, trickled down to a few measly copies here
>in the States.

No offense here, guy, but I think you meant Cowgirl is a direct rip-off of
Rez - since Rez was their first single after they hired Darren Emerson -
after the Underneath the Radar and Beneath the Weather LPs (I believe those
are the titles; it's been a LONG time since I've listened to either, as
they sound utterly different than their current works).

(Even though I don't really see the similarities - some slight melody
similarity, but Rez is a much longer, flowing track (depending on which
version you have of it, of course))

lateron

Mitch
Midnight Sorrow


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From: Jon <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Underworld - Rez
Date: 24 Jan 1997 15:59:56 +0000 (GMT)




On Fri, 24 Jan 1997, Mitchel Waas wrote:

> At 07:26 PM 1/23/97 -0600, Ernesto Perez wrote:
> >no offense, but REZ is just as repetitive as Born Slippy and is a direct
> >rip off of COWGIRL. incidentally, the reason it doesn't get played alot
> >is because it was limited pressing (B-Side to Cowgirl on Junior Boys'
> >Own 12") in europe and thus, trickled down to a few measly copies here
> >in the States.
>
> No offense here, guy, but I think you meant Cowgirl is a direct rip-off of
> Rez - since Rez was their first single after they hired Darren Emerson -
> after the Underneath the Radar and Beneath the Weather LPs (I believe those
> are the titles; it's been a LONG time since I've listened to either, as
> they sound utterly different than their current works).
>
> (Even though I don't really see the similarities - some slight melody
> similarity, but Rez is a much longer, flowing track (depending on which
> version you have of it, of course))
>
> lateron
>
> Mitch
> Midnight Sorrow
>
>
> ****************************************************
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> *  URL:  http://www.shadow.net/~mwaas/mw-sofla.htm
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>




As far as i am aware Rez started off as a remix of Cowgirl but became so
different to the original track that they called it something else!



.....jON.....



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From: ERLEND <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: orbital Digest V2 #166
Date: 24 Jan 1997 17:20:14 -0800

I'm just curious.

          What's your favoruite ORBITAL track??


                               ***TOBY***

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From: "Lazlo Nibble" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Underworld - Rez\
Date: 24 Jan 1997 10:07:02 -0700 (MST)

> Anyway, to actually get to the point of this message, is Rez
> available anywhere besides on TEX1?

  "Rez"/"Why Why Why" promo 12"
  "Rez"/"Cowgirl" 12"
  German "Cowgirl" CD5
  US "Dirty Epic" CD5
  GE/Australian 2CD edition of Second Toughest In The Infants
  UK compilation: Cream Of Underground House Volume 2
  UK compilation: Junior Boy's Own Collection
  UK compilation: A House Retrospective 91-95
  UK/US compilation: Logic Trance 2
  GE compilation: Progressive House Volume 2
  UK compilation: Trance Fusion 2
  UK compilation: XL Recordings - The Fourth Chapter

Probably a dozen more too.  Details on the above in the discography
(http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?freur).

--
::: Lazlo, marking the engine numbers in his little book

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From: "Lazlo Nibble" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: What kind of people rave?
Date: 24 Jan 1997 10:09:45 -0700 (MST)

> When some hick-acting prick like you comes and starts checking me out
> while I'm trying to transcend it's distracting.Let go and grow your
> jarhead hair-cut out, square.

No wonder the distractions are a problem -- you've got a *lot* to transcend,
"princess".

--
::: Lazlo ([e-mail]; http://www.swcp.com/lazlo)

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: re: favourite Orbital track
Date: 24 Jan 1997 12:11:54 -0500

In a message dated 24/01/97  16:29:01, [e-mail] (ERLEND) wrote:

"         What's your favoruite ORBITAL track?? "

I noticed the reply-to is set to stop the list being bombarded, but in case
it is does anyone mind if I take their comments for the faq, and add up all
the votes? Also, can you (Toby) forward the results to me for inclusion, in
case this one comes up again?

(For the record, personally it's probably still Lush 3).

Cheers. Paul Mison.
monsters exist. [e-mail].
http://members.aol.com/pmison/


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From: "Lazlo Nibble" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: compilations, Underworld
Date: 24 Jan 1997 10:13:44 -0700 (MST)

>> Incidently Orbitals Semi-Detached is on that. It's where I discovered
>> Orbital and trance music in general. It's still my favorite Orbital
>> tune.  Is it a different version to the one on Peel Sessions(I don't
>> have Peel Sessions) ?
>
> If the version on Diversions is the same as the one on Peel, then the
> one on "Trance Europe..." is the same as both. I, at least, detect no
> difference whatsoever.

Diversions has the TEX version (9:33).  The Peel Sessions version is a
different version that as far as I know isn't available anywhere but the Peel
Sessions EP.

--
::: Lazlo ([e-mail]; http://www.swcp.com/lazlo)

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From: "Michael A. Polisky" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Underworld on Northern Exposure
Date: 24 Jan 1997 13:35:10 -0500


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 Sasha and John Digweed have a new 2 disc set out called Northern
Exposure. I highly recommend it to any on who likes trance.  "Dark and
Long" is the last track on disc 2.  It is much different to the track on
dubnobass...  Yet on AMP, they show a video that they call spoonman,
which is almost idebtical to the "Dark & Long" off this compilation.
And, the song from the video is no where near the "Spoonman" track off
dubnobass...  I was completely confused.
Can anyone shed light for me?
mike!
[e-mail]

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Exposure. I highly recommend it to any on who likes trance.  "Dark
and Long" is the last track on disc 2.  It is much different
to the track on dubnobass...  Yet on AMP, they show a video that they
call spoonman, which is almost idebtical to the "Dark & Long"
off this compilation.  And, the song from the video is no where near
the "Spoonman" track off dubnobass...  I was completely
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<DT>Can anyone shed light for me?</DT>

<DT>mike!</DT>

<DT>[e-mail]</DT>

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From: Jon Green <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re vocals
Date: 24 Jan 1997 16:21:30 +0000

At 02:04 24/01/97 -0500, [e-mail] wrote:
>In a message dated 97-01-23 21:24:35 EST, you write:
>
><< just please no more vocals, it's the only reason I don't really like
> underworld, I do like the track "Rowla" a lot though, that's a really
> great choon. Juanita is also good even though it has vocals. >>
>Oh, c'mon--Underworld's got some pretty cool vocals.....particularly Cowgirl
>and Juanita.

One of the reasons why I like Underworld is because they sometimes put
vocals in. I used to think along the 'no vocals please' lines, but not
anymore, mostly thanks to Underworld and their different vocal style. It
would be nice, however, to hear some of their tracks without the words
though (Juanita especially). Likewise I'm pleased that Orbital did the vocal
mix of The Box, it's nice to hear a different slant on the track, then you
can choose which one you like best.

Jon


Jon Green: [e-mail]
"The less effort one puts in, the greater
satisfaction one gains from a good result"



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From: Jon Green <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Criminal Justice Bill?
Date: 24 Jan 1997 16:32:11 +0000

At 08:59 24/01/97 -0500, Sanjay Arora wrote:
>Am I just retarded, or is Criminal Justice Bill? on the Are We Here?
>single supposed to be 4 minutes of silence.  Is there some political
>message that I'm missing or is my CD messed up and I should just go and
>return the stupid thing?

I presume it's meant to be like that, 'cos mine is too. It's about the UK
government's Criminal Justice Bill (now Act) which tries to ban dance music
(well sort of). I think the idea was 'this is all you'll hear if the bill
goes through', though I'll bet Mr Price knows better :-)

Jon


Jon Green: [e-mail]
"The less effort one puts in, the greater
satisfaction one gains from a good result"



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From: [e-mail] (Benjamin Knowles)
Subject: Re: 030/Semi detached
Date: 24 Jan 1997 03:41:56 -0500

Concerning Trance Europe Express,

>
>>I have a question about a band on that compilation - the track before
>>Spacetrack is by 030 and is called "Midnight In Europe" and is also a great
>>cut. Has anyone ever seen anything else from these guys?
>
>I think they work under several different names, individually and with
>others, see if the TEX book mentions any others.
>>

the problem is, i bought the thing used (like i do with many of my CDs) so
i don't have the little booklet. would somebody who has one tell me what it
has to say about 030? please? i would greatly appreciate it...

-ben


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From: Hans Lo <[e-mail]>
Subject: re: favourite Orbital track
Date: 24 Jan 1997 16:20:08 -0500 (EST)

> (For the record, personally it's probably still Lush 3).

I think I have to agree with that. Lush 3 is one of my favorite songs of
all time. But I think that the Box (full single version) would have to be
close behind, especially the second part with the intricate harpsicord
overlays.


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From: "Steve Goss" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Possible title for an Orbital song...
Date: 24 Jan 1997 13:22:07 -0800

> >water topic: the oil spill of the Exxon Valdez (which was repaired in
the
> >city I live, San Diego, California).
> >
> >                I can hear the beginning of the song in my head, like
sounds
> >of large drops of oil dropping and dropping in a rythmical sequence,
> >pictures of black pools and oil-drenched animals also come into my mind.
> >They could call the song Xon (that way no names are blatently named :-))
or
> >something like that.

Or how about X-ON + ON + ON?

nevermind

<--------------->
Steve Goss
[e-mail]
<--------------->

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From: "earthling" <[e-mail]>
Subject: wondering star!
Date: 24 Jan 1997 16:30:26 -0500

Hi
i was wondering if Adnan from in Sides is the original or is it the
original the version on the HELP compilation cd?????

earthling



((( earthling --> [e-mail] )))
(( " and they catch him, and they say he's mental... " ))



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From: "Steve Goss" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Chicken/egg question
Date: 24 Jan 1997 13:35:30 -0800

> Just wondering if anybody knows if Orb got their name from Orbital, or
> vice versa, or are they completetly non related?
>
> ps. i'm pretty new to this whole techno/trance/rave/ambient/whatever
> music thing, so could anyone of you scholorly type give me some names of
> some good artists like Orbital/Orb that would be easy to get in the
> states?
>
> thanx, Matt

Matt, it would help if you gave a personal email adress so I could reply
privately.

Some other good groups that are either based in the states or have had
their music released here are: Meat Beat Manifesto, FSOL, Moby, 808 state,
The Prodigy and many more.

Just steer clear of 'pop culture' techno that is really crap including but
not limited to 2 Unlimited and La Bouche.

just my 1.5 cents

<--------------->
Steve Goss
[e-mail]
<--------------->

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: Criminal Justice Bill?
Date: 24 Jan 1997 17:07:18 -0500 (EST)

Once again, I'm sure Steve knows better than I do, but the Criminal Justice
Bill was supposed to prevent "mobilizing disaffected youth by the use of
repetitive beats" or some rot like that.  I'm guessing the 4 mins of silence
was just kind of a dig at Parliament, since pretty much all music uses some
sort of repetitive beat.

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From: [e-mail] (Benjamin Knowles)
Subject: Re: Possible title for an Orbital song...
Date: 24 Jan 1997 05:12:26 -0500

>
>Or how about X-ON + ON + ON?
>
>nevermind
>

hah! very good... that will be the extended version i guess. maybe they can
through a little Paula Abdul or Motley Crue sample on in their live show.

ditto on the nevermind...

-ben



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From: Steve <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: What kind of people rave? - I do
Date: 24 Jan 1997 17:26:14 -0500


R. TAYLOR wrote:
>
> On Thu, 26 Dec 1996, Anthony Agee wrote:
>
> >
> > >So far, I know that the raving people mostly wear baggy jeans with
> > >chains. But I'd also like to know what kind of girls and guys go
> > >there. For example, are girls really freaky? I've heard that many wear
> > >lots of makeup and are those "mysterious, "hard-to-get" types...
> >
> > >What about guys? People say they're known for their extreme sexuality
> > >and overconfidence, but I dont how to judge the either rumors.
> >
> >
> > I've seen some wonderfully beautiful girls at the raves...and I'm
sorry, I
> > go to raves to listen to music and dance but I cannot ignore beauty!
Of
> > course....I said "girls"....not women.  I'm really looking for the
latter!
> >
> > Any girl that wears all that glitter shit in her hair and on her
> > face....I'm not interested in that.
> >
> > And about the "pseudo-mysterious-bisexual-isshegayorwhat?"
people....most
> > guys/girls don't have time to screw around and try to figure out who
you
> > are.  Be true to the game and don't mislead.
> > [e-mail]
> > Here's a woman for you, bud, and I wear glitter in my hair, and blue
> clay stripes on my face and body and a leather bikini or silver space
> suit as far as being misleading. The reason we with imaginations go to
> raves is to let go of the bullshit inhibitions we are surrounded with in
> daily life.
>         When some hick-acting prick like you comes and starts checking me
out
> while I'm trying to transcend it's distracting.Let go and grow your
> jarhead hair-cut out, square. The year 2000 is upon us get with the flow.
> Randarian Princess of Wisdom in the desert.

>>>>>You tell him O' great princes!!!!!!!!!

Grow up, that aint the rave scene, that is a typical club!

The rave scene is still base upon illegal *warehouse* partys, now is you
had ever been to one of these you would know the elusive *score* now if you
dont have anything better to write, dont write anything!!

This is the orbital mailing list, NOT THE NARROW MINDED AMERCIAN, I DONT
UNDERSTAND THE ENGLISH, MAILING LIST!!!!

Regs

Steve

P.S. If per chance you do live in london, I can give you a few
numbers........ Check them out then take the piss........ atleast you will
know the people you are taking the piss out of!!!!

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From: Shaun Rader <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: wondering star!
Date: 24 Jan 1997 14:33:20 -0800

earthling[SMTP:[e-mail]] wrote:

> i was wondering if Adnan from in Sides is the original or is it the
> original the version on the HELP compilation cd?????

The HELP compliation CD had the original Adnan's, but
I believe it had to be under 4 minutes.  So the complete
version is on In Sides I assume...

--
.    .   .  . .end of transmission. .  .   .    .


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From: Steve <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: What kind of people rave?
Date: 24 Jan 1997 17:31:53 -0500

>>i think it's funny how we all talk about raves as times to "transcend"
and such, but we all still revert to slamming each other with our petty
insults..  ever read Timothy Leary's 8-circuit model for the human
conciousness?  some of us seem to be stuck on number 2..<<

                aaron

Timothy Leary was a drugged up freak!

If any one wants to checkout his circuits, the are on
HTTP://WWW.PARANOIA.COM/
on their drugs server......

But personally I think he took too many drugs, esp. Ketamine(sound drug,
try it), but it fucks your head up................

Regs.
Steve

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: Underworld- Rez
Date: 24 Jan 1997 15:07:37 -0800

Really?  They don't?  Which clubs do you go to?  My friend who goes
clubbing every week in Hollywood says there are at least two clubs
(Perversion and Sin-a-matic, if I remember correctly) who play Underworld
all the time, and I know he said that they've played that.... I'd love to
hear it in a club.... and now that I've *finally* turned 18, I'm gonna have
to go..... btw, what's a good club in your opinion?
 >It's too bad that no
>clubs out here (California) ever seem to play it.  One of the DJ's at the
>Chem Bros show that I was at played it, but he cut it short.
Ryan

...so I thought to myself, "what would God do in this situation?"
Then it came to me.  Locusts.



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From: kiss the sun and walk on air <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Underworld on Northern Exposure
Date: 24 Jan 1997 18:14:01 -0500

At 01:35 PM 1/24/97 -0500, you wrote:

<excerpt> Sasha and John Digweed have a new 2 disc set out called
Northern Exposure. I highly recommend it to any on who likes trance.
"Dark and Long" is the last track on disc 2.  It is

</excerpt><<<<<<<<

the track on nothern exposure is dark train, avaliable on the dark and
long single.


>>>>

<excerpt>much different to the track on dubnobass...  Yet on AMP, they
show a video that they call spoonman, which is almost idebtical to the
"Dark & Long" off this compilation.  And, the song from the video is no
where near the "Spoonman" track off dubnobass...  I was completely
confused.


</excerpt><<<<<<<<


mtv messed up -- simple as that.

-pete





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From: "Ravis1" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: What kind of people rave? - I do
Date: 24 Jan 1997 17:37:51 -0600

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> From: Steve <[e-mail]>
>
> This is the orbital mailing list, NOT THE NARROW MINDED AMERCIAN, I DONT
> UNDERSTAND THE ENGLISH, MAILING LIST!!!!
>
> Regs
>
> Steve
>
> P.S. If per chance you do live in london, I can give you a few
> numbers........ Check them out then take the piss........ atleast you
will
> know the people you are taking the piss out of!!!!

Okay now.  Don't star attacking Americans now.  Here in New Orleans,
there's a rave in an abandoned warehouse almost every weekend.


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From: "Anthony Agee" <[e-mail]>
Subject: R. Taylor and a new Orbital album?
Date: 24 Jan 1997 18:05:35 -0600

Hey y'all, just wanted to apologize for R. Taylor's outburst.  I've replied
to him privately, verbally flailed his ass.

Anyway, about Orbital.  Is it for sure that they'll have a new album out
for 1997?

Do you guys think we might see another single off "In Sides" ?

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From: "Anthony Agee" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: What kind of people rave?-non orbital related
Date: 24 Jan 1997 18:24:37 -0600

ATTN: THIS IS NOT ORBITAL RELATED

> > > Here's a woman for you, bud, and I wear glitter in my hair, and blue
> > clay stripes on my face and body and a leather bikini or silver space
> > suit as far as being misleading. The reason we with imaginations go to
> > raves is to let go of the bullshit inhibitions we are surrounded with
in
> > daily life.
> >         When some hick-acting prick like you comes and starts checking
me out
> > while I'm trying to transcend it's distracting.Let go and grow your
> > jarhead hair-cut out, square. The year 2000 is upon us get with the
flow.
> > Randarian Princess of Wisdom in the desert.

You have an imagination because you put clay stripes (whatever the f*ck
that is) on your face? LOL....God, it's pathetic superficial people like
you that do nothing but perpetuate the myth that all these "jarhead
hair-cut out" must be unimaginative and not "with it" solely because they
don't wear outlandish clothes or have shit in their hair.  Is this how you
assess people?  Nice.

I don't give a crap what you want to wear to your "raves". I go to raves to
listen to music PERIOD. If I can dance with one of my girlfriends or maybe
even meet another girl to dance with, cool. The last thing I'm there for is
to stare at girls or follow them around or stuff like that.

"Bullshit inhibitions"?  I don't think it's completely "bullshit" of your
employer to ask you not to wear a leather bikini to work as it probably
would distract people.

Sorry Orbital fans....I know you don't want to read this stuff....I'm just
fed up with snobs.


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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: Possible title for an Orbital song...
Date: 24 Jan 1997 19:57:56 -0500 (EST)

In a message dated 97-01-24 17:32:45 EST, you write:

<< >Or how about X-ON + ON + ON?
 >
 >nevermind
 >

 hah! very good... that will be the extended version i guess. maybe they can
 through a little Paula Abdul or Motley Crue sample on in their live show.

 ditto on the nevermind...
  >>
groan......while we're at it, in the video, P+P's mom could be helping to
clean out the oil spill, and Phil's head could pop out of the oil, and then
she could push his head back in......

maybe not.....

Matt

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From: Chris Rutledge & Kathy Travis <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: What kind of people rave?-non orbital related
Date: 24 Jan 1997 17:31:42 -0800

>
> You have an imagination because you put clay stripes (whatever the f*ck
> that is) on your face? LOL....God, it's pathetic superficial people like
> you that do nothing but perpetuate the myth that all these "jarhead
> hair-cut out" must be unimaginative and not "with it" solely because they
> don't wear outlandish clothes or have shit in their hair.  Is this how you
> assess people?  Nice.
>
> I don't give a crap what you want to wear to your "raves". I go to raves to
> listen to music PERIOD. If I can dance with one of my girlfriends or maybe
> even meet another girl to dance with, cool. The last thing I'm there for is
> to stare at girls or follow them around or stuff like that.
>
> "Bullshit inhibitions"?  I don't think it's completely "bullshit" of your
> employer to ask you not to wear a leather bikini to work as it probably
> would distract people.
>
> Sorry Orbital fans....I know you don't want to read this stuff....I'm just
> fed up with snobs.

Just to let you know, I agree with you. I'm would say something to these
people, but I don't have the time to. Thanks for making my day. :)

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: favourite Orbital track
Date: 24 Jan 1997 20:32:59 -0500 (EST)

I seem to be in good company here w/Lush 3 as my favorite--but Out There
Somewhere is definitely a close second...

While we're on the topic, I'm interested about everyone's LEAST favorite
Orbital tune, too.....mine's Times Fly (slow)

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: Underworld on Northern Exposure
Date: 24 Jan 1997 21:50:45 -0500 (EST)

In a message dated 97-01-24 13:33:36 EST, you write:

<<  "Dark and
 Long" is the last track on disc 2.  It is much different to the track on
 dubnobass...  Yet on AMP, they show a video that they call spoonman,
 which is almost idebtical to the "Dark & Long" off this compilation.
 And, the song from the video is no where near the "Spoonman" track off
 dubnobass...  I was completely confused.
 Can anyone shed light for me? >>
You heard the Dark Train mix of Dark & Long--I was confused about it too,
since I had never heard Spoonman, I thought they could be the same track, but
I checked around, and it turns out MTV just screwed up

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From: Chris Herz <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: What kind of people rave?-non orbital related
Date: 24 Jan 1997 19:47:00 -0700


CLAP CLAP CLAP CLAP!!!   im getting sick of all the whining and bitching too...




>You have an imagination because you put clay stripes (whatever the f*ck
>that is) on your face? LOL....God, it's pathetic superficial people like
>you that do nothing but perpetuate the myth that all these "jarhead
>hair-cut out" must be unimaginative and not "with it" solely because they
>don't wear outlandish clothes or have shit in their hair.  Is this how you
>assess people?  Nice.
>
>I don't give a crap what you want to wear to your "raves". I go to raves to
>listen to music PERIOD. If I can dance with one of my girlfriends or maybe
>even meet another girl to dance with, cool. The last thing I'm there for is
>to stare at girls or follow them around or stuff like that.
>
>"Bullshit inhibitions"?  I don't think it's completely "bullshit" of your
>employer to ask you not to wear a leather bikini to work as it probably
>would distract people.
>
>Sorry Orbital fans....I know you don't want to read this stuff....I'm just
>fed up with snobs.



        -Chris Herz

[e-mail]

http://www.interwerks.com        http://www.chs.lane.edu/~chrish



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From: Chris Herz <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: What kind of people rave?-non orbital related  (OOPS!)
Date: 24 Jan 1997 20:09:08 -0700

Oops!  i meant to privetly email Anthony (blush)....  sorry... (but im sick
of the complaining...)

>CLAP CLAP CLAP CLAP!!!   im getting sick of all the whining and bitching
>too...


        -Chris Herz

[e-mail]

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From: "Chance" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: favorite Orbital track
Date: 24 Jan 1997 20:35:12 -0800

I've been quitely reading the mail and have to say " The naked and the
dead" has got to be one of my least favorite orbital tracks.  I would also
like to know were this 4minutes of silence is located on "Are we here".
I've had that cd for about a year and a half and haven't heard or seen an
area on the cd with 4min of nothing.  Does criminal justice bill really
exist on the US released single?

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> From: [e-mail]
> To: [e-mail]
> Subject: Re: favourite Orbital track
> Date: Friday, January 24, 1997 5:32 PM
> >>
> While we're on the topic, I'm interested about everyone's LEAST favorite
> Orbital tune, too.....mine's Times Fly (slow)

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From: "R. TAYLOR" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re:  live shows...
Date: 24 Jan 1997 21:38:02 -0700 (MST)

    Does anyone know Orbital's Spring Tour schedule? The booking
agent at the Pan American Center here (Las Cruces,NM) is into booking
Orbital after a good turn out at Garbage last month (the only show on
tour they got to headline) but we need to find out if they have a hole in
their schedule and what they charge. Checking the books, but if anyone
has an inside tract.
    I believe Mr. Lazlo is out of Alburque and El Paso/ Juarez just
built the Metropolis we may have a sunbelt tour here. LA, Phoneix,
Alburque, Las Cruces, El Paso, Dallas, Houston, New Orleans, Tampa,
Orlando and then up to D.C. New York.
    Sorry peoples, but being an old punk rock I love to raise a
little scism occasionally. Agee's statements show their merit on their
own accounts. I would like to know who he spanked though, and if they
enjoyed it as I'm not a he, but a she.
    Sad but True is on the Johnny Mnemnioc Soundtrack at 8: I you're
not aware, but not worth buying as the rest is different music than
ambient. But if you know someone with it so be it.
            Avoir, he he it was fun to get to see a different
side of your personalities. Computers are bland.

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From: Shaun Rader <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: favorite Orbital track
Date: 24 Jan 1997 22:40:58 -0800

Chance[SMTP:[e-mail]] wrote:
> I've been quitely reading the mail and have to say " The naked and the
> dead" has got to be one of my least favorite orbital tracks.  I would also
> like to know were this 4minutes of silence is located on "Are we here".
> I've had that cd for about a year and a half and haven't heard or seen an
> area on the cd with 4min of nothing.  Does criminal justice bill really
> exist on the US released single?

No, it doesn't exist on the US single.  I'm wondering if I
should get the UK version of the single (no! not for the
Criminal Justice Bill mix, but for Do They Here? and
They Did It).

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From: lysergic ad naseum <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re:  live shows...
Date: 25 Jan 1997 02:01:03 -0600


>    I believe Mr. Lazlo is out of Alburque and El Paso/ Juarez just
>built the Metropolis we may have a sunbelt tour here. LA, Phoneix,
>Alburque, Las Cruces, El Paso, Dallas, Houston, New Orleans, Tampa,
>Orlando and then up to D.C. New York.
>

all i have to say is that i can't allow them to do a southwest tour without
hitting san antonio... we love them here! so there!


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From: Steve B <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: What kind of people rave? - I do
Date: 25 Jan 1997 07:20:56 -0500

>>Okay now.  Don't star attacking Americans now.  Here in New Orleans,
there's a rave in an abandoned warehouse almost every weekend.<<

sorry mate I didn't mean to be offensive like.........

steve

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From: lysergic ad naseum <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: favorite Orbital track
Date: 25 Jan 1997 09:19:01 -0600


>No, it doesn't exist on the US single.  I'm wondering if I
>should get the UK version of the single (no! not for the
>Criminal Justice Bill mix, but for Do They Here? and
>They Did It).
>

i have both cd singles and must admit that the criminal justice bill mix
amuses me beyond belief... its the best mix of any song ever...


                                        -lysergic


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From: Mark S-D <[e-mail]>
Subject: CJB / Disasters / "Raves" / O30-TEX / Seattle
Date: 25 Jan 1997 14:31:45 -0500

Just a few things......
"Criminal Justice Bill"...thought some might like to see what it is.....
ING : This music is characterised by the emission of a succession of
repetitive beats. Should this be played at night, in the prescence of 100
or more people on land partly or wholly open to the air, you may be subject
to arrest, the seizure of your sound equipment, up to 3 months imprisonment
and a fine. Furthermore, if a police officer believes you "intend" to do
any of the above, similar penalties may apply......this is just part of the
CJB, it also has a lot to say about the "travelling community" - a lot of
these laws were unworkable but the ones which relate to parties have been
in effect, the law in this area has also been ammended and new laws which
allow Police to close down a club immediatley should they believe drugs
being sold/used there... I like what was said about Orbital's silent
record....this is what you'll hear if the CJB is put into effect...I
beleive it's also meant to make you think about that bill, in the same way
you might have a minutes silence to remember the dead or something like
that !  Next....
"Ecological disasters"  There was a few posts saying how about an Orbital
record about this, and are they just bothered about water etc.
If you read some of the interviews you will see that they have lots of
concerns - I should think that it's not always possible to make a tune just
like that as soon as something happens, would you want them to ?
Why not do it yourself ?!!?
"O30" - this is Dr Motte and Paul Browse, Dr Motte goes under the name
Euphorhythm and also with Sven Rohrig as 3 Phase, you can find some of
their records on labels Tresor and MFS. Has anyone heard any of the X-MIX
series ? These are really good, I love some records by "Humate" but they're
tricky to get hold of.....Semi Detatched
on TEX1 is slightly different from the one on Peel Sessions but the vibe of
it is the same.....one of my favourite all time tracks !!
"Seattle" - Did they do the version of Halcyon at Seattle ? It's not on my
tape but I might not have it all. This hasn't been released as yet btw, I
agree with Steve (Loopz) on this one....it's best left live I think.
"Ravers"....it's 1997 for f**ks sake ! What's this about glitter and baggy
trousers ? Please. It sounds like something out a crappy 80's B movie. It's
an abused word, it could mean anything.....could be your granny after a
couple of beers. In the UK and I'm sure the USA too there's lots of clubs,
different styles different music different dress codes (dress codes suck),
all of them could be called raves. If you want to take the piss do it
properly. Cheers. Bye for now.       Mark S-D

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: To Steve (you others don't have to read this)
Date: 25 Jan 1997 15:20:01 -0500 (EST)

ºººWarning--this is a message to Steve only--I can't get mail thru to him
normallyººº

Steve--I can't seem to get mail thru to your normal email address--i keep
getting messages saying it was undelivered--anyway, I've got your money, but
I lost your address, so could you please send it to me again?  Thanx a lot.

Thanx,
Matt

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: live shows...
Date: 25 Jan 1997 15:29:05 -0500 (EST)

In a message dated 97-01-25 03:05:00 EST, you write:

<< >    I believe Mr. Lazlo is out of Alburque and El Paso/ Juarez just
 >built the Metropolis we may have a sunbelt tour here. LA, Phoneix,
 >Alburque, Las Cruces, El Paso, Dallas, Houston, New Orleans, Tampa,
 >Orlando and then up to D.C. New York.
 >     >>
I'd also like to add that I will get very violent if they pass up both
Chicago and St. Louis again.....grrrrr....they did that to me last time
too...=(

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From: jeff <[e-mail]>
Subject: Impact & other
Date: 25 Jan 1997 17:00:14 -0500

i've got a couple of questions:

1)if the female voice isn't saying "and on and on and on..." in
halcyon+on+on, does that mean the female voice isn't saying "the earth is
burning" in impact (both the brown and diversions versions)?...

2)[this is non-orbital related, so you've been warned & reply privately]
does any one use fasttracker, and if so would you care to give me some
advise on it, and anybody w/ any info on some decent drum machines or other
tracking programs your help would be much appreciated...

thanks,

-jeff




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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: 030/Semi detached
Date: 25 Jan 1997 22:27:14 GMT


>The Peel version is different to the TEX one, but not much. It mixes out
>into Attached (different to on Sniv), sounds well cool

it is also quite a bit slower than the original version.

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: Underworld - Rez
Date: 25 Jan 1997 22:27:21 GMT

I know that Underworld have been going for a hellish long time, since
the late 80s? but what did they sound like before "dubnobass..."
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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: orbital Digest V2 #166
Date: 25 Jan 1997 22:27:06 GMT


>          What's your favoruite ORBITAL track??

hmmmmm, this is difficult, I'd say that Semi Detached/Attached from
the Peel Session is my fave choon, if I'm not allowed to have that coz
it's actually two choons then it'll probably be The Tranquilizer or
perhaps Attached from Snivilisation.

but then again, Who Are They? is just absolutely brilliant - and is
probably the most important Orbital choon for me personally, oh I
don't know, I can't really answer that queston at all.

take it easy
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From: "Anthony Agee" <[e-mail]>
Subject: least favorite Orbital song
Date: 25 Jan 1997 17:35:47 -0600

It's gotta be Quality Seconds.

And Fishy said his least favorite track was Times Fly (slow)....that's one
of my favorites!


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From: Aleksandra Adamovic <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Underworld - Rez
Date: 26 Jan 1997 03:15:34 +0100 (MET)


> I know that Underworld have been going for a hellish long time, since
> the late 80s? but what did they sound like before "dubnobass..."

  Is this a question???

  Sasha.





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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: Older live shows...
Date: 26 Jan 1997 02:52:17 GMT


>sounding tune with the sample "all ladies get up and dance" or something
>to that extent,  I think Halcyon was played too. minus BJ and BC.  And

erm, the sample you mean goes "all the naked and the dead" which is
probably why they named the choon "The Naked And The Dead" of course
it could have been "The Naked And The Dub", a much better choon IMO

well, there's my pointless wafflings again

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: Underworld - Rez
Date: 26 Jan 1997 03:12:47 GMT


>> I know that Underworld have been going for a hellish long time, since
>> the late 80s? but what did they sound like before "dubnobass..."
>=20
>  Is this a question???

erm, yes it was meant to be a question, however in my infinite
stupidity I forgot to place a "?" at the end.

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From: Shaun Rader <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: Naked and the Dub
Date: 25 Jan 1997 20:21:36 -0800

[e-mail] wrote:

> erm, the sample you mean goes "all the naked and the dead" which is
> probably why they named the choon "The Naked And The Dead" of course
> it could have been "The Naked And The Dub", a much better choon IMO

Is there any place to get "The Naked And The Dub" right now?
Anyone know where I could order the US Halcyon single or
obtain this song in .mp3 format?  Thanks.

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From: Shaun Rader <[e-mail]>
Subject: Chime Remix..?
Date: 25 Jan 1997 22:49:08 -0800

Which Chime remix has the sample, "Got to keep the fire
burning"?
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From: jeff <[e-mail]>
Subject: Are We Here?
Date: 26 Jan 1997 02:23:05 -0500

just wanted to say the "Are We Here?" video was on AMP on mtv tonight...i'm
pretty sure it was not the album version, but i can't tell you what mix it
was (Sniv is the one orbital album i don't own)...
-jeff




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From: Joona =?iso-8859-1?Q?P=94yh=94nen?=  <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: least favorite Orbital song
Date: 26 Jan 1997 09:27:24 +0200 (EET)

At 17.35 25.1.1997 -0600, you wrote:
>It's gotta be Quality Seconds.

I think so too...

>
>And Fishy said his least favorite track was Times Fly (slow)....that's one
>of my favorites!

I love Times Fly!
joona p=F6yh=F6nen
[e-mail]
Tapiolan Honka, Espoo


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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: least favorite Orbital song
Date: 26 Jan 1997 04:23:30 -0500 (EST)

In a message dated 97-01-25 18:40:48 EST, you write:

<< It's gotta be Quality Seconds.

 And Fishy said his least favorite track was Times Fly (slow)....that's one
 of my favorites! >>
     I would have to agree with the Quality Seconds and maybe Semi-Detached
 a distant second.

           Dr. Vasew

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Omen and Chime 12"
Date: 26 Jan 1997 15:40:42 +0000

If anyone out there is interested in the following 12" singles, e-mail me
privately with bids.

- "Chime/Deeper" on Oh-zone Records. Zone 001.White card sleeve.

- "Omen Remixes: The Chariot/The Tower/Wheel of Fortune/The Fall" on ffrr
Records. FXR 145. Generic ffrr sleeve.

They have both been played but are still in good condition i.e. you can't
hear clicks or anything like that. "Omen" has some amusing writing from a
crew on the back of a fairly generic sleeve.

thanks

Young-Mi Song




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From: ebbhead <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Are We Here?
Date: 26 Jan 1997 10:49:14 -0500

>just wanted to say the "Are We Here?" video was on AMP on mtv tonight...i'm
I saw it for the first time and noticed it has the same footage of the bird
splashing through the water to catch a fish as the NIN video for 'Hurt'.
That's a strange coincidence --I wonder what nature program P&P and Trent
(or their video producers at least) were watching?  Maybe a special on
predators?  Hmmmm...

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: Are We Here?
Date: 26 Jan 1997 16:21:54 GMT


>just wanted to say the "Are We Here?" video was on AMP on mtv =
tonight...i'm
>pretty sure it was not the album version, but i can't tell you what mix =
it
>was (Sniv is the one orbital album i don't own)...
>-jeff

probably the 4 minute Indusrty Standard edit, which is more or less a
shorter version of Who Are They?

BTW I notice that these two mixes have a really good vocal bit at the
beginning, but those vocals are not used on the original version on
Sniv... WHY?

take it easy
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    |___|   \______/|______/|______/   |___|

                             =20
     =20

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: Omen and Chime 12"
Date: 26 Jan 1997 16:22:05 GMT


>If anyone out there is interested in the following 12" singles, e-mail =
me
>privately with bids.
>
>- "Chime/Deeper" on Oh-zone Records. Zone 001.White card sleeve.
>
>- "Omen Remixes: The Chariot/The Tower/Wheel of Fortune/The Fall" on =
ffrr
>Records. FXR 145. Generic ffrr sleeve.

I'll bid 10UK pounds each, though I may not be interested in the Chime
one coz I think I can get it elsewhere, I have been seking Omen and
the Omen remixes for absolutely ages but no-one has it.
Please LET ME KNOW if someone bids higher for the Omen remixes coz I
***really*** want it.

Where in the world are you?

take it easy

  _________________  ______  ___________   ___
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    |   |  |        |       |       |\_     _/
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    |___|   \______/|______/|______/   |___|

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From: [e-mail] (Benjamin Knowles)
Subject: Re: Chime Remix..?
Date: 25 Jan 1997 23:48:46 -0500

>Which Chime remix has the sample, "Got to keep the fire
>burning"?
>--

i know the Ray Keith Mutation on "Only for the Headstrong" does. I don't
have the Mutations EP, cuz i'm American, god-dammit, and we don't get shit
here.

I, too, have tried ordering the US Halcyon single from about three on-line
places now, all of which say they have it, only to be dissapointed when
they find it "out of stock." f*ckers.

If someone wants to sell me their's, or even make me a tape of it, i will
pay an appropriately high price.

Oh, and what is "Steel Cube Idolatry" like? - haven't heard that one, either.

thanks,
ben


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From: Are These Actual Miles? <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Chime Remix..?
Date: 26 Jan 1997 12:03:31 EST


>I, too, have tried ordering the US Halcyon single from about three on-line
>places now, all of which say they have it, only to be dissapointed when
>they find it "out of stock." f*ckers.
>
have you tried cdnow or abcd?
i got mine from cd now and it arrived quite rapidly.

                                                  \\|//
                                                  (o o)
 --------------------------------------------oOOO--(_)--OOOo-------------
"I believe that unarmed truth and unconditional love will have the
 final word in reality. That is why right, temporarily defeated, is
 stronger than evil triumphant."
          Ibid.

 -----------------------------------------------.oooO--------------------
                                                (   ) Oooo.
                                                 ) (  (   )
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From: [e-mail] (Benjamin Knowles)
Subject: Re: Chime Remix..?
Date: 26 Jan 1997 01:12:34 -0500

>>I, too, have tried ordering the US Halcyon single from about three on-line
>>places now, all of which say they have it, only to be dissapointed when
>>they find it "out of stock." f*ckers.
>>
>have you tried cdnow or abcd?
>i got mine from cd now and it arrived quite rapidly.
>

that's the UK version, isn't it - with Halcyon and two other songs? I want
the US version, with 6 tracks, and i'm desperate! sorry i'm mailing this to
the whole list and not just you, but i want everyone to understand my
plight.

enjoy,
ben


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From: lysergic ad naseum <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Chime Remix..?
Date: 26 Jan 1997 13:32:41 -0600

the 6 track version was released as radiccio in the states, wasn't it?
thats the one that cdnow has...


                                                -lysergic

At 01:12 AM 1/26/97 -0500, Benjamin Knowles wrote:
>>>I, too, have tried ordering the US Halcyon single from about three on-line
>>>places now, all of which say they have it, only to be dissapointed when
>>>they find it "out of stock." f*ckers.
>>>
>>have you tried cdnow or abcd?
>>i got mine from cd now and it arrived quite rapidly.
>>
>
>that's the UK version, isn't it - with Halcyon and two other songs? I want
>the US version, with 6 tracks, and i'm desperate! sorry i'm mailing this to
>the whole list and not just you, but i want everyone to understand my
>plight.
>
>enjoy,
>ben
>
>
>


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From: "Steve Goss" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re:The search for Halcyon (reasonably priced)
Date: 26 Jan 1997 11:43:13 -0800

> >I, too, have tried ordering the US Halcyon single from about three
on-line
> >places now, all of which say they have it, only to be dissapointed when
> >they find it "out of stock." f*ckers.
> >
> have you tried cdnow or abcd?
> i got mine from cd now and it arrived quite rapidly.

I ordered the Halcyon single a few weeks ago from a local store where I can
personally harass the innocent store folk into telling me things like "It's
on back order and should arrive any day now." Oh well, maybe we shouldn't
all order it at once.

BTW I found Moby's Everything is Wrong for sale in the used CD section. I
don't know who would take this back the the store for two or three bucks
after actually listening to it. Oh well, so much better for me.

<--------------->
Steve Goss
[e-mail]
<--------------->

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From: [e-mail] (Benjamin Knowles)
Subject: Re: Chime Remix..?
Date: 26 Jan 1997 03:20:07 -0500

>the 6 track version was released as radiccio in the states, wasn't it?
>thats the one that cdnow has...
>
>

the CD now description is as follows:

        "Halcyon (EP) + 2 tracks"

There is no mention of Radiccio.

Help?
Ben


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From: Mark S-D <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Chime Remix..?
Date: 26 Jan 1997 15:26:42 -0500

>that's the UK version, isn't it - with Halcyon and two other songs? I want
>the US version, with 6 tracks, and i'm desperate! sorry i'm mailing this to
>the whole list and not just you, but i want everyone to understand my
>plight.
>enjoy,
>ben

6 tracks ? Can someone confirm this, what were the tracks ? I have a US version
of Halcyon but it's a 2 track, Halcyon (long) and Naked & the dub. I'd love
to know what this US one is...I know theres quite a few formats floating around.
I have a problem with Mutations as I have 4 (yes,4) versions and still havn't
got all those mixes yet.            Mark S-D

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From: lysergic ad naseum <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Chime Remix..?
Date: 26 Jan 1997 14:40:21 -0600

>6 tracks ? Can someone confirm this, what were the tracks ? I have a US version
>of Halcyon but it's a 2 track, Halcyon (long) and Naked & the dub. I'd love
>to know what this US one is...I know theres quite a few formats floating
around.
>I have a problem with Mutations as I have 4 (yes,4) versions and still havn't
>got all those mixes yet.            Mark S-D
>
>

i have the japanese release of the radiccio single with the following six
tracks:

        1. halcyon edit
        2. halcyon
        3. deeper
        4. the naked and the dead
        5. sunday
        6. the naked and the dub

can't attest to other formats as this one is the only one i have...


                                                -lysergic


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From: [e-mail] (Sean Strout)
Subject: Re: least favorite Orbital song
Date: 26 Jan 1997 13:28:00 PST

come on, folks, it's gotta be "Time becomes" and "Input out", no?

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From: "Anthony Agee" <[e-mail]>
Subject: praying to God
Date: 26 Jan 1997 15:35:16 -0600

That we don't start on another of these week-long Chime edit 12",
naked-and-the-dead-obscure-old-not-so-good Orbital threads.  Of course,
that's exactly what this list is for but I'm in a shitty mood so I should
shut up.

On to brighter things:  Has anybody listened to Aphex Twin's newest?  It's
had glowing reviews stateside....but I can't find it anywhere.


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From: [e-mail] (Sean Strout)
Subject: halcyon@cdnow+us+jp
Date: 26 Jan 1997 13:42:51 PST

CDNow has the Aug. '95 reissue of Halcyon (UK), label
(Internal LIECD 27), which has 3 songs and is
entitled Radiccio:
         11:10  Halcyon
          6:24  The Naked and The Dead
          7:13  Sunday

This is according to their database, which may be incorrect
because they title it as Halcyon, and I remember some
people here saying they got another version... If
the label is correct, this is the version.

The US CD version that people are talking about is
called "Halcyon" and not "Radiccio"
   CD5: 1992 US (ffrr; 162-350009-2) ["Halcyon"]
         11:05  Halcyon
          6:23  The Naked And The Dead
         11:51  The Naked And The Dub
          7:10  Sunday
          3:15  Chime (radio edit)

And the JP version is called "Radiccio":
   CD5: 1993 JP (London/Internal; POCD-1103) [25 Jan]
          3:51  Halcyon (edit)
         11:10  Halcyon
          6:59  Deeper
          6:24  The Naked And The Dead
          7:13  Sunday
          6:24  The Naked And The Dead [mislabeled "Naked And The Dub"]

all thanks to Lazlo's discog machine...
www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital

-s.

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From: lysergic ad naseum <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: halcyon@cdnow+us+jp
Date: 26 Jan 1997 16:00:21 -0600


>And the JP version is called "Radiccio":
>   CD5: 1993 JP (London/Internal; POCD-1103) [25 Jan]
>          3:51  Halcyon (edit)
>         11:10  Halcyon
>          6:59  Deeper
>          6:24  The Naked And The Dead
>          7:13  Sunday
>          6:24  The Naked And The Dead [mislabeled "Naked And The Dub"]
>

i hate to disagree but i have the disc in my cd player as we speak, same
catalog numbers and all but it _does_ have naked and the dub, 11 minutes and
52 seconds worth...


                                        -lysergic


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From: [e-mail] (Sean Strout)
Subject: afx+orb
Date: 26 Jan 1997 14:00:04 PST

the new Aphex Twin is quite different and strange... i guess that
what makes it good.  it's impossible to describe - i'd suggest
giving a hearty listen before shelling out for it (paid
$25 for the import, then saw it in a used bin for $9 the
next week...).  it certainly isn't techno or dancey,
lots of blips and bleeps and scratches of incredibly
stained loops.  it is supposed to be released stateside
sometime soon with Girl/Boy added.  RDJ is a freak amongst
the freaks.

heard some pre buzz on the new Orb album Orbilivion and
the new single Toxygene.  Orb is back with a vengeance,
no more eno'ish ambient noodling... walls of dub and
hard distortion.  it's hard techno and major breakbeat.
should please orbital fans who disliked the heavy chill out
style of their last effort (although i can't see why
people don't like occidental, that track rocks esp. live!)

my apologies for non orbital related clamoring.
-s.

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From: Daniel =?iso-8859-1?Q?Ka=9Aaj?= <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: favourite Orbital track
Date: 26 Jan 1997 23:31:38 +0100

At 20:32 24.01.1997. -0500, you wrote:
>I seem to be in good company here w/Lush 3 as my favorite--but Out
There
>Somewhere is definitely a close second...

Well, CHOICE is my absolute favourite, along with Dwr Budr, Are We Here? and
Sad But True.

>While we're on the topic, I'm interested about everyone's LEAST
favorite
>Orbital tune, too.....mine's Times Fly (slow)

Mine's "Input Out" :-)
OK, ok, you said tune. I guess it would have to be...umm..Adnan's.
Now don't misunderstand me - all Orbital tunes have a straight ten (out of
ten) by me, only this one has a nine and a half.

Oh, and another thing. I've set up Orbital links on my page now, along with
some "Orbital art". Just a couple of images I did while listening to
Orbital and having nothing better to do.
I'd love comments on those, privately of course.

    Daniel Kasaj, [e-mail]        http://fly.cc.fer.hr/~leqash
    ______________________________________________________________________

        ...light of the neon shining through his body from within...


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From: Hans Lo <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: praying to God
Date: 26 Jan 1997 19:44:48 -0500

>
> On to brighter things:  Has anybody listened to Aphex Twin's newest?  It's
> had glowing reviews stateside....but I can't find it anywhere.

I'm listening to it right now. It's pretty good. I don't like Aphex as
much as I like P&P Hartnoll but you usually can't go wrong with AT. The
reason why you haven't seen it in the states is because I don't think it
has been released in North America yet. I think it was released in Nov
of '96 in the UK. I picked up my copy in London, England over the
Christmas holidays. The domestic Canadian version is hitting stores on
the 28th.

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From: Chris Herz <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Impact & other
Date: 26 Jan 1997 17:59:20 -0700

>i've got a couple of questions:
>
>1)if the female voice isn't saying "and on and on and on..." in
>halcyon+on+on, does that mean the female voice isn't saying "the earth is
>burning" in impact (both the brown and diversions versions)?...

i always thought those vocals were just ooo-ahh type things... not really
saying anything, then was tweeked a little...


>thanks,

no prob.. B^)


later



        -Chris Herz

[e-mail]

http://www.interwerks.com        http://www.chs.lane.edu/~chrish



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From: Greg Liu <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: praying to God
Date: 26 Jan 1997 18:13:53 -0800 (PST)

Once you realize that Aphex has completely lost his head, you can listen
to what he does and is usually, I think, amazing in its own right.  the
new one is quite good, but may take some a while to get used to.

Greg

On Sun, 26 Jan 1997, Anthony Agee wrote:

> That we don't start on another of these week-long Chime edit 12",
> naked-and-the-dead-obscure-old-not-so-good Orbital threads.  Of course,
> that's exactly what this list is for but I'm in a shitty mood so I should
> shut up.
>
> On to brighter things:  Has anybody listened to Aphex Twin's newest?  It's
> had glowing reviews stateside....but I can't find it anywhere.
>
>


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From: Chris Herz <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Are We Here?
Date: 26 Jan 1997 18:14:44 -0700


>probably the 4 minute Indusrty Standard edit, which is more or less a
>shorter version of Who Are They?

is that the remix that has the sample that goes (sorry if i had audio i
could say it): nit nit na nee  ???  i missed AMP on sat. but caught the AMP
w/ Halcyon on friday..  i'll just have to wait a week.. <sigh>



        -Chris Herz

[e-mail]

http://www.interwerks.com        http://www.chs.lane.edu/~chrish



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From: Chris Herz <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: least favorite Orbital song
Date: 26 Jan 1997 18:27:08 -0700

>come on, folks, it's gotta be "Time becomes" and "Input out", no?

hmmmm.. i really dont count those as songs... but thats just me.. B^)
Desert Storm on Orbital 1 (green album) gets too repetitive and long...
its a catchy tune the first couple mins...  i also dont care for Speed
Freak (moby's remix) but thats not P&Ps fault... B^)   (i have a feeling im
gunna get trashed for saying all that.... SCARED!)   later



        -Chris Herz

[e-mail]

http://www.interwerks.com        http://www.chs.lane.edu/~chrish



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From: "Chance" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Chime Remix..?
Date: 26 Jan 1997 18:51:50 -0800



----------
> From: lysergic ad naseum <[e-mail]>
> To: [e-mail]; orbital <[e-mail]>
> Subject: Re: Chime Remix..?
> Date: Sunday, January 26, 1997 12:40 PM
>
> >6 Track? I have a US cd single of Halcyon with the followin tracks:
> >1.halcyon  11:05
> > 2.the naked and the dead   6:23
> > 3.the naked and the dub   11:51
> > 4.sunday   7:10
> > 5.chime(radio edit)   3:15
>                                            Chance

> i have the japanese release of the radiccio single with the following six
> tracks:
>
>         1. halcyon edit
>         2. halcyon
>         3. deeper
>         4. the naked and the dead
>         5. sunday
>         6. the naked and the dub
>
> can't attest to other formats as this one is the only one i have...
>
>
>                                                 -lysergic
>
>
> everything's ##################################################  you too
>              # The Lysergic Dream - The Dark Beyond The Stars #
>     gone     # the new full length release, available NOW!!!! #  will be
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assimilated
>

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From: "Chance" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Chime Remix..?
Date: 26 Jan 1997 18:59:12 -0800

I have that on the compliation album "Only for the Headstrong" the "chime"
remix your referring to is the last song on the ablum.  I've seen a few
copies at local stores (seattle), good luck!

----------
> From: Shaun Rader <[e-mail]>
> To: 'zOrbital Mailing List' <[e-mail]>
> Subject: Chime Remix..?
> Date: Saturday, January 25, 1997 10:49 PM
>
> Which Chime remix has the sample, "Got to keep the fire
> burning"?
> --
> .    .   .  . .end of transmission. .  .   .    .

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From: ebbhead <[e-mail]>
Subject: Halcyon
Date: 26 Jan 1997 21:59:46 -0500

>>6 tracks ? Can someone confirm this, what were the tracks ? I have a US
version
>>of Halcyon but it's a 2 track, Halcyon (long) and Naked & the dub. I'd love
>>to know what this US one is...I know theres quite a few formats floating
>around.
I have the US version of Halcyon (FFRR label, cat no. 162350009-2) and it
has the following 5 tracks:
Halcyon            11:05
The Naked And The Dead    6:23
The Naked And The Dub    11:51
Sunday                7:10
Chime (Radio Edit)        3:15

and no, it doesn't say 'Radiccio' anywhere on it.
hope that helps ;)

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From: "Andy C Toth" <[e-mail]>
Subject: least fav
Date: 26 Jan 1997 22:00:48 -0500

Hell, the dM list is doing it too.
Here goes:

least// choice (It sounds like something Marky-Mark and The Funky Bunch
would have done) ;)
fav!!// Out There Somewhere? (Pts 1 & 2) continuous

actually blaring dwr budr, adnan's, and both out there somewhere's is the
best thing to do

Andy



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From: tsee <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Criminal Justice Bill?
Date: 26 Jan 1997 20:03:41 -0800

At 08:59 AM 1/24/97 -0500, you wrote:
>Am I just retarded, or is Criminal Justice Bill? on the Are We Here?
>single supposed to be 4 minutes of silence.  Is there some political
>message that I'm missing or is my CD messed up and I should just go and
>return the stupid thing?
>
>Later,
>Sanjay

                Ummm, hmmm, wellll, my Are We Here? single doesn't have that
on it, hmmm, interesting...where did you buy it and what are all the songs
contained on it?  Mine are as follows:

                1.  Who are they? - 7:30
                2.  Oral Mix - 8:36
                3.  What was that? - 10:17
                4.  Lunasol wet mix - 9:54
                5.  Industry standard edit - 3:51
                6.  The edit - 4:12


    ETX,

    Trent See


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From: tsee <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Impact & other
Date: 26 Jan 1997 20:10:00 -0800

                Non-orbital related warning number 2:

>2)[this is non-orbital related, so you've been warned & reply privately]
>does any one use fasttracker, and if so would you care to give me some
>advise on it, and anybody w/ any info on some decent drum machines or other
>tracking programs your help would be much appreciated...
>
>thanks,
>
>-jeff

                Ditto on the advise and drum machines recommendations

    ETX,

    Trent See


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From: Scott Kinnamon <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: Impact & other
Date: 26 Jan 1997 23:16:27 -0500


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1.  In response to your questions, the vocals on Halcyon came from the =
Opus III album, Mind Fruit. The song is "It's a Fine Day". Song 1, all =
cut up, retriggered, and messed with. By the way, some of the songs on =
the album are rulin' dance music.
2.  There is a sample of someone saying "the earth is burning", but I =
don't know  where that one came from. A movie perhaps?
Scott
----------
Sent:     Sunday, January 26, 1997 7:59 PM

>i've got a couple of questions:
>
>1)if the female voice isn't saying "and on and on and on..." in
>halcyon+on+on, does that mean the female voice isn't saying "the earth =
is
>burning" in impact (both the brown and diversions versions)?...

i always thought those vocals were just ooo-ahh type things... not =
really
saying anything, then was tweeked a little...


>thanks,

no prob.. B^)


later



        -Chris Herz

[e-mail]

http://www.interwerks.com        http://www.chs.lane.edu/~chrish





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From: [e-mail] (Benjamin Knowles)
Subject: Re: least favorite Orbital song
Date: 26 Jan 1997 12:05:52 -0500

Least Faves:

>Desert Storm on Orbital 1 (green album) gets too repetitive and long...

I completely agree. It kinda just wastes away into oblivion after awhile,
which might be the point, but oh well.

>i also dont care for Speed Freak (moby's remix)

Okay, here I must differ. Granted, I've never heard the original version,
and can't fathom at all what it must be like - just how similar is it,
anyway? Well, whatever - I like the Moby version. I find it very dancable
in a traditionally techno-y sort of way. Also, I like the vocal of the guy
saying something like (correct me if I'm wrong) "gotta take gotta take away
gotta take got-gotta take..."

More Moby-related:
Someone a few months ago mentioned Moby's remix of Michael Jackson's "Beat
It" as being really horrible. Well okay, it ain't great - but you've gotta
admit that it's pretty cool hearing the King of Pop at such break-neck
tempos. Worth a listen, at any rate (it's on the single to "Who Is It" if
anyone cares).

-ben


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From: [e-mail]
Subject: The green album
Date: 27 Jan 1997 00:34:17 -0500 (EST)

Hey this is Morpheus

I bought the green album today.  Mine does not include Satan.  Isn't it
supposed to.  it has eleven traks.  But Satan is not there.  Oh it's the us
release the yellow one. So can someone tell me if this cd is wrong.
Morpheus

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From: Chris Herz <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: The green album
Date: 26 Jan 1997 21:53:01 -0700

nope! the cd is right!  i believe the UK version doesnt have Satan or Far.
3D3...  correct me if i missed something....   later!


>Hey this is Morpheus
>
>I bought the green album today.  Mine does not include Satan.  Isn't it
>supposed to.  it has eleven traks.  But Satan is not there.  Oh it's the us
>release the yellow one. So can someone tell me if this cd is wrong.
>Morpheus



        -Chris Herz

[e-mail]

http://www.interwerks.com        http://www.chs.lane.edu/~chrish



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From: tsee <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: The green album
Date: 26 Jan 1997 21:52:48 -0800

At 12:34 AM 1/27/97 -0500, you wrote:
>Hey this is Morpheus
>
>I bought the green album today.  Mine does not include Satan.  Isn't it
>supposed to.  it has eleven traks.  But Satan is not there.  Oh it's the us
>release the yellow one. So can someone tell me if this cd is wrong.
>Morpheus
>
>
                Well, Satan is on mine (neither green nor yellow, it is lime
:-)).

                Also, my lime has 10 traks on it, hmmmm, well I'll list them:

                1.  Belfast - 8:05
                2.  The Moebius - 7:00
                3.  Speed Freak (Moby Remix) - 5:40
                4.  Fahrenheit 3D3 - 7:04
                5.  Desert Storm - 12:05
                6.  Oolaa - 6:22
                7.  Chime - 8:01
                8.  Satan - 6:44
                9.  Choice - 5:30
                10.  Midnight - 5:08


    ETX,

    Trent See


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From: "Lazlo Nibble" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: halcyon@cdnow+us+jp
Date: 26 Jan 1997 23:50:00 -0700 (MST)

> i hate to disagree but i have the disc in my cd player as we speak, same
> catalog numbers and all but it _does_ have naked and the dub, 11 minutes and
> 52 seconds worth...

Well, its nice to finally find out that not all Japanese copies are mispressed
like mine is . . . the matrix number on mine is POCD-1003 / MT 1A1 + -- what's
it on yours?

--
::: Lazlo ([e-mail]; http://www.swcp.com/lazlo)

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: The green album
Date: 27 Jan 1997 02:45:29 -0500 (EST)

In a message dated 97-01-27 00:55:59 EST, you write:

<<                Also, my lime has 10 traks on it, hmmmm, well I'll list
them:

                 1.  Belfast - 8:05
                 2.  The Moebius - 7:00
                 3.  Speed Freak (Moby Remix) - 5:40
                 4.  Fahrenheit 3D3 - 7:04
                 5.  Desert Storm - 12:05
                 6.  Oolaa - 6:22
                 7.  Chime - 8:01
                 8.  Satan - 6:44
                 9.  Choice - 5:30
                 10.  Midnight - 5:08 >>

woooo!
Mine is completely different.

Mine goes like this:

1. The Moebius
2. Speed Freak
3. Oolaa
4. Desert Storm
5. Fahrenheit 303
6. Steel Cube Idolatry
7. High Rise
8. Chime Live
9. Midnight Live
10. Belfast
11. Untitled

I think you have the uk release and I have the us release.  Correct me if I'm
wrong.

Morpheus

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From: lysergic ad naseum <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: halcyon@cdnow+us+jp
Date: 27 Jan 1997 02:23:44 -0600

>Well, its nice to finally find out that not all Japanese copies are mispressed
>like mine is . . . the matrix number on mine is POCD-1003 / MT 1A1 + -- what's
>it on yours?

POCD-1003 A04 (on the disc itself, around the inner edge..., is that the
matrix number?)


                                        -lysergic


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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: The green album
Date: 27 Jan 1997 03:44:52 -0500 (EST)

     Mine as well has Satan on it.  I think you have the UK version.  The UK
version is undefiled by moby  ie Speed Freak.

                Dr. Vasew

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: re:My Mails Buggered again and some stuff on Orbital
Date: 24 Jan 1997 17:07:57 GMT

My Mails been down for 2 days - just got it back - some messages to me
might not have got through (im on about the private ones) so if u did send
me summit and i dont reply in a day of two then i never got it.

Anyway enough of that.

Few answers:-
Someone asked me to repeat how u say DWR BUDR - its Doo-er Bid-a

Criminal Justice Bill track on Are We Here is supposed to be 4 mins of
silence. No faulty cd.

Talking of Are We Here , i heard the MTV 120 Mins interview that some(US
people) would have heard. I noticed the interview has got bad habits of
the British DJs in that he thought they headlined Glastonbury last year
(werent even a Glastonbury that year!) and he called "Are We Here" - We
Are Here! Doh! (THanks Mike - for the tape).

The sample page will be moving its location when the new LOOPZ webpage is
complete - the address i posted will be the NEW address for the NEW LOOPZ
page - get it bookmarked. Old Website will be dead soon apart from the
link to the new one.

Anyway...back to my mail

Cheers

Steve LOOPZ Price.

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From: Shaun Rader <[e-mail]>
Subject: Original Choice?
Date: 27 Jan 1997 01:30:05 -0800

I remember reading that the original version of
Choice didn't have the vocals.. is this true?  What
CD is that version on if it is?  Thanks.

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From: Shaun Rader <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: Impact "The Earth is Burning"
Date: 27 Jan 1997 01:32:41 -0800

Scott Kinnamon[SMTP:[e-mail]] wrote:

> 2.  There is a sample of someone saying "the earth is burning", but I don't know  where that one came from. A movie perhaps?

Does anyone know what she moans before she actually
says "The earth is burning"??  Also, what does the guy
say after "a cry for survival"?

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From: Shaun Rader <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: least favorite Orbital song
Date: 27 Jan 1997 02:01:45 -0800

Benjamin Knowles[SMTP:[e-mail]] wrote:

> >Desert Storm on Orbital 1 (green album) gets too repetitive and long...
>
> I completely agree. It kinda just wastes away into oblivion after awhile,
> which might be the point, but oh well.

But you gotta love it when everything stops and the
bass line just keeps on going...

I sure hope that's called a bass line, correct me if
I'm wrong.

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From: Jon Green <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: least favorite Orbital song
Date: 27 Jan 1997 11:29:07 +0000

Probably High Rise, or Monday (much prefer Sunday - are these tracks meant
to be related other than in title? I can't hear any resemblance at all)

Jon


Jon Green: [e-mail]
"The less effort one puts in, the greater
satisfaction one gains from a good result"



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From: Jon Green <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: Impact "The Earth is Burning"
Date: 27 Jan 1997 11:57:42 +0000

At 01:32 27/01/97 -0800, Shaun Rader wrote:

>Does anyone know what she moans before she actually
>says "The earth is burning"??  Also, what does the guy
>say after "a cry for survival"?

'For their survival and for our survival' I reckon.

Jon


Jon Green: [e-mail]
"The less effort one puts in, the greater
satisfaction one gains from a good result"



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From: Jon Green <[e-mail]>
Subject: CD now
Date: 27 Jan 1997 12:14:05 +0000

Can anybody tell me what the www address for CDnow is?

Cheers
Jon


Jon Green: [e-mail]
"The less effort one puts in, the greater
satisfaction one gains from a good result"



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From: lysergic ad naseum <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: CD now
Date: 27 Jan 1997 06:28:13 -0600

http://www.cdnow.com

or connect thru the online music shopping section of my website with links
to the best mailorder places i've found so far...

http://hudson.idt.net/~lyserg19


                                                -lysergic


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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Now at no. IR 7
Date: 27 Jan 1997 09:41:08 -0500

     Yep - they're now at no. 7 in the Irish charts - thought they'd be
     gone out of the top 20 at least by now.  There's a LOT of people
     buying Satan over here at the moment!!

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From: ed naylor <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Now at no. IR 7
Date: 27 Jan 1997 14:30:38 -0500 (EST)

Satan achieved something of a first in the UK last week, hitting
48 in the album charts (for the vinyl version) while the 3 CD
single version was still in the top 40 singles chart.

Did anyone catch the complaint about Satan on TOTP that the BBC
broadcast on the Biteback programme yesterday afternoon? Very
funny!




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From: [e-mail]
Subject: re:praying to God
Date: 27 Jan 1997 16:24:42 GMT


>>>>
On to brighter things:  Has anybody listened to Aphex Twin's newest?  It's
had glowing reviews stateside....but I can't find it anywhere.
>>>>

yep...half good half crap...normal Aphex.
Liked the sampled spectrum in track 3/4 and love track 1 which is called 4
(just to confuse matters). Saw him live - what a prick... :)


Steve
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From: Siamese Dream <[e-mail]>
Subject: wired compilation
Date: 27 Jan 1997 16:21:00 +0000 (GMT)

hello there

anyone seen that double CD which has been advertised on TV called 'Wired'?

It sounds cool, with tracks from Orbital, Chem Bros, Leftfield, The Orb,
808 State and loads more!!!

anyone any comments on it?!?

laters

james
:-)))
[e-mail]

"Reality is an illusion created by lack of alcohol..."

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From: "Lazlo Nibble" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: halcyon@cdnow+us+jp
Date: 27 Jan 1997 10:07:11 -0700 (MST)

>> Well, its nice to finally find out that not all Japanese copies are
>> mispressed like mine is . . . the matrix number on mine is POCD-1003 /
>> MT 1A1 + -- what's it on yours?
>
> POCD-1003 A04 (on the disc itself, around the inner edge..., is that the
> matrix number?)

Yes it is -- thanks!

--
::: Lazlo ([e-mail]; http://www.swcp.com/lazlo)

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From: "Lazlo Nibble" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Underworld - Rez
Date: 27 Jan 1997 10:12:57 -0700 (MST)

> I know that Underworld have been going for a hellish long time, since
> the late 80s? but what did they sound like before "dubnobass..."

When they were Freur (early '80s) they were very doing crisp, eclectic
synthpop.  Their first two albums as Underworld were synths-and-guitars
electropop with a mild funk edge.

--
::: Lazlo ([e-mail]; http://www.swcp.com/lazlo)

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From: "Lazlo Nibble" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Chime Remix..?
Date: 27 Jan 1997 10:15:34 -0700 (MST)

>> have you tried cdnow or abcd?
>> i got mine from cd now and it arrived quite rapidly.
>
> that's the UK version, isn't it - with Halcyon and two other songs? I want
> the US version, with 6 tracks, and i'm desperate!

You are destined to remain desparate, Ben . . . there is no US version with
6 tracks . . . the US version has five (Halcyon, Naked And The Dead, Naked
And The Dub, Sunday, and the radio edit of Chime).

--
::: Lazlo ([e-mail]; http://www.swcp.com/lazlo)

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From: Chris Herz <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: The green album
Date: 27 Jan 1997 09:31:16 -0700


>I think you have the uk release and I have the us release.  Correct me if I'm
>wrong.
>
>Morpheus

bzzzzzzzzz...  sorry.. would you like to go for the party gifts instead?
(sorry.. hiped up on a hazlenut latte)  actually, you have the UK...  and
the other guy (sorry dont remember who it was) has the US...  later!
'


        -Chris Herz

[e-mail]

http://www.interwerks.com        http://www.chs.lane.edu/~chrish



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From: COMTE DE SAINT-GERMAIN <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Criminal Justice Bill?
Date: 27 Jan 1997 13:36:35 -0500 (EST)

is all this i read about the mysterious criminal justice bill (ACT) true?
im in the colonies chaps and i haven't heard anything about such a law.  if
anyone could please give me more info about it i would be grateful-it sounds
kind of scary.
thanx
-nick

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From: fanno <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Chime Remix..?
Date: 27 Jan 1997 11:28:43 -0800 (PST)



On Sat, 25 Jan 1997, Shaun Rader wrote:

> Which Chime remix has the sample, "Got to keep the fire
> burning"?
> --
> .    .   .  . .end of transmission. .  .   .    .
>
I believe that the song is the mutations version.  I have it on an old
techno compilation titled "Only for the Headstrong, vol 1."  Good luck
finding it.

L8
 Jeff Fanno


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From: fanno <[e-mail]>
Subject: Mtv 120 min
Date: 27 Jan 1997 12:17:37 -0800 (PST)

  My apoligies since this is not Orbital related, but did anyone in the US
happen to watch and/or tape 120 min last night/monday morning.  There was
an interview with Bjork that I fell asleep just before she came on, sniff,
sniff.  Since she is my favorite female singer and I hadn't seen here for
a while I am mildly depressed at missing her on the show.  If anyone can
help me I would be very grateful.  If you don't want to share, I've got
some stuff I'd offer to trade.  Thanks for listening :-).  BTW Amp on
sunday morning was excellent with Orbital's "Are We Here"  with all the
Orbital brand laundrey soap, environmentally friendly I assume,  also the
FSOL video for "Dead Cities" was very impressive.  I've amassed quite a
collection of FSOL videos from Amp and I must say that they make the most
entertaining and thought provoking videos around.  This was one of the
best Amp's to date- kudos and smiles to the people at MTV for giving us
what we really want!!

My e-mail addresses for private purposes are either:
  [e-mail]
or
  [e-mail]

 Bye for now,
  Jeff Fanno


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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Chime 12"Omen12"Auction
Date: 27 Jan 1997 20:20:20 +0000

Current bids are as follows

Chime 12": =A325
Omen12": =A315

I am planning to close the auction in about one week. Thanks for your intere=
st.

Y. Song



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From: fanno <[e-mail]>
Subject: Mtv 120 min (fwd)
Date: 27 Jan 1997 13:26:24 -0800 (PST)



---------- Forwarded message ----------

  My apoligies since this is not Orbital related, but did anyone in the US
happen to watch and/or tape 120 min last night/monday morning.  There was
an interview with Bjork that I fell asleep just before she came on, sniff,
sniff.  Since she is my favorite female singer and I hadn't seen here for
a while I am mildly depressed at missing her on the show.  If anyone can
help me I would be very grateful.  If you don't want to share, I've got
some stuff I'd offer to trade.  Thanks for listening :-).  BTW Amp on
sunday morning was excellent with Orbital's "Are We Here"  with all the
Orbital brand laundrey soap, environmentally friendly I assume,  also the
FSOL video for "Dead Cities" was very impressive.  I've amassed quite a
collection of FSOL videos from Amp and I must say that they make the most
entertaining and thought provoking videos around.  This was one of the
best Amp's to date- kudos and smiles to the people at MTV for giving us
what we really want!!

My e-mail addresses for private purposes are either:
  [e-mail]
or
  [e-mail]

 Bye for now,
  Jeff Fanno



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From: Matt Gundlach <[e-mail]>
Subject: Halcyon/Green album
Date: 27 Jan 1997 16:34:19 +0000

Just wondering, whats the difference between all of the different
version of the green album and the Halcyon (Radiccio) single? which
one(s) should I buy?
...and I agree that the The Box EP is one of my favorite tracks...

The Other Matt

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From: [e-mail] (StarPango)
Subject: More on the CD-RW drives
Date: 27 Jan 1997 16:11:23 -0500

i've got a number of questions about the new capabilities of the cd drive
run at me from off this list. for those of you who care go ahead and read
on.  so far there are 2 versions of the new drives.  as far as i know
Phillips, Sony, and Pioneer produce the systems.  there are a number of
clones out there that use these drives.  the first drive to come out was
the CD-R drive which stands for cd recordable only....that means if you
mess up on something it's on there for life! kind of blows.  now the CD-RW
drives are recordable and rewritable, which means you can do any damn thing
you want to on them.  both of the drives are universally connectable to
stereo components or computers of DOS or MacOS origin.  There are ton of
formats ranging from RedBook Audio, Audio, Cd-Rom, HFS system and plenty of
other things------anything in any format can be copied.   the true sound of
audio trading is available.  CD-R drives are running about $500 at 2x and
$700 at 4x while the CD-RW drives are running a couple hundred dollars over
that.  there are also DAT recorders with the same caps available for a ton
of money more.  that's about it......i'll have mine this spring, Steve!,
that is CD-RW drive

StarPango

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: least favorite Orbital song
Date: 27 Jan 1997 17:17:12 -0500 (EST)

In a message dated 97-01-26 16:36:21 EST, you write:

<< come on, folks, it's gotta be "Time becomes" and "Input out", no?
  >>
those 2 don't count!!! =P

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: afx+orb
Date: 27 Jan 1997 17:21:26 -0500 (EST)

In a message dated 97-01-26 17:08:07 EST, you write:

<< heard some pre buzz on the new Orb album Orbilivion and
 the new single Toxygene.  Orb is back with a vengeance,
 no more eno'ish ambient noodling... walls of dub and
 hard distortion.  it's hard techno and major breakbeat.
 should please orbital fans who disliked the heavy chill out
 style of their last effort (although i can't see why
 people don't like occidental, that track rocks esp. live!)
  >>
Good!!  I picked up Orbvs Terrarivm (or whatever it is) and Occidental is the
only track I can listen to on it. Valley's got a cool sample, tho--the one
where he says "We have learned patience after 600 million years."
 Unfortunately, I needed all that patience and then some to suffer thru most
of that album.  Sorry to whine about that, but I needed to get it off my
chest.

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: least favorite Orbital song
Date: 27 Jan 1997 17:29:24 -0500 (EST)

In a message dated 97-01-27 00:10:05 EST, you write:

<<  Also, I like the vocal of the guy
 saying something like (correct me if I'm wrong) "gotta take gotta take away
 gotta take got-gotta take..."  >>
I always thought he was saying "tock-tick tocka-tick" etc. kinda like a clock
gone nuts or something.  But I could easily be wrong....I'm far from the
authority on what vocals say (remember my "close your eyes" interpretation of
Dwr Budr?)

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From: Mark S-D <[e-mail]>
Subject: The green album
Date: 27 Jan 1997 17:42:38 -0500

There are a few different versions of the green lp/cd, the USA CD with
Satan on it is a slightly different shade of green I've been told. I guess
it's because there's two different distributors (FFRR/Internal), it has
always seemed a bit weird to me too, I'd prefer not to bother with imports
but it's still worth the hassle. Theres nothing wrong with your
CD.....thought you may like to check out Lazlo's discography which is quite
handy....          http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs
Follow the links and you should be able to get to a list of the greens.
Have fun....... ; )             Mark S-D

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From: Kevin neff <[e-mail]>
Subject: Techno mags
Date: 27 Jan 1997 18:08:19 -0500

Does anyone know of any Techno/rave magazines in the US?



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From: Chris Herz <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: to FishyT99's comment  (non-orbital kinda)
Date: 27 Jan 1997 19:11:40 -0700

>In a message dated 97-01-27 00:10:05 EST, you write:
>
><<  Also, I like the vocal of the guy
> saying something like (correct me if I'm wrong) "gotta take gotta take away
> gotta take got-gotta take..."  >>
>I always thought he was saying "tock-tick tocka-tick" etc. kinda like a clock
>gone nuts or something.  But I could easily be wrong....I'm far from the
>authority on what vocals say (remember my "close your eyes" interpretation of
>Dwr Budr?)

<chuckle chuckle>   that was a classic bunch-o-chat...

*heres the non-orbital part, but im in such a good mood I DONT CARE!!!  B^P
    B^)   *


ok! im so stoaked!!!  i have to tell everyone..  i may get to do some
production assistant stuff w/ Kevin Cossner's new film this April in Bend,
OR..  its not completly set in stone and i may not be able to do it, but i
have a good chance of getting my name up there on the big screen!  goes to
show you all who have a dream..  GO FOR IT!!!!    be happy everyone!
whoopie!



        -Chris Herz

[e-mail]

http://www.interwerks.com        http://www.chs.lane.edu/~chrish



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From: "Anthony Agee" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Techno mags
Date: 27 Jan 1997 21:11:41 -0600

> From: Kevin neff <[e-mail]>
> To: [e-mail]
> Subject: Techno mags
> Date: Monday, January 27, 1997 5:08 PM
>
> Does anyone know of any Techno/rave magazines in the US?


Yes, there are only two that I think are any good.  The first is Urb
magazine, which is really a great source.  The other is DJ Magazine.  DJ
Magazine tends to focus more on DJs and less on the musical artists but
they have some cool pictures and some great info on gear.  You should be
able to find both of these magazines at either Border's Bookstores or
Barnes and Noble.  Don't even think of finding one at a music store.


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From: [e-mail] (Benjamin Knowles)
Subject: Re: Chime Remix..?
Date: 27 Jan 1997 10:31:29 -0500

>>
>> that's the UK version, isn't it - with Halcyon and two other songs? I want
>> the US version, with 6 tracks, and i'm desperate!
>
>You are destined to remain desparate, Ben . . . there is no US version with
>6 tracks . . . the US version has five (Halcyon, Naked And The Dead, Naked
>And The Dub, Sunday, and the radio edit of Chime).
>

Well, it appears that Paul Mison's "Stopped Clock" discography is not quite
in kahoots (sp?) with your own, since it says that there are, indeed, 6
tracks on the US release. I'm guessing that he was talking about the Japan
version. Who's right? Who's wrong? Who knows?

-Ben


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From: jeff <[e-mail]>
Subject: faithless &SETI
Date: 27 Jan 1997 22:34:29 -0500

could someone fill me in the artist faithless, his song "insomnia" was on
amp sat. nite...and does anyone know about the SETI cd...(sorry 'bout the
non-orbital content)...

please reply personally, thanks

-jeff




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From: Duncan Price <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: faithless &SETI
Date: 27 Jan 1997 23:30:23 -0500

Still not orbital related....

That faithless song is quite the treat....I audio taped it and I've been
jammin' in the car all day!   So...yes, does anyone know about faithless and
are other songs as good as this?



At 10:34 PM 1/27/97 -0500, you wrote:
>could someone fill me in the artist faithless, his song "insomnia" was on
>amp sat. nite...and does anyone know about the SETI cd...(sorry 'bout the
>non-orbital content)...
>
>please reply personally, thanks
>
>-jeff
>
>
>
>


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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: least favorite Orbital song
Date: 28 Jan 1997 00:39:09 -0500 (EST)

In a message dated 97-01-27 05:05:01 EST, you write:

<< But you gotta love it when everything stops and the
 bass line just keeps on going...

 I sure hope that's called a bass line, correct me if
 I'm wrong. >>

   Are you referring to the area of the tune which is really 'compressed'?  I
love that segment.  The song as a whole is OK. But I have no favorite songs,
just favorite albums.  Mine would be Orbital 2 or the brown album as its
alias.  Put that baby in the car cd and I transform into speed racer =] even
though my car isnt the mach 5 (or anything that resembles speed).

                                                                     Dr.
Vasew



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From: [e-mail]
Subject: a few things.....
Date: 27 Jan 1997 22:44:40 -0800

sorry, I'm too lazy to send a few different messages, so I'll just indent
for each different idea.
    1.  How good is the orbital song called "remind"? I just saw it on a cd
called trancefusion 2, and was wondering if this song ws good enough to get
the cd, or if the cd is actually worth getting in its own right....
    2.some one just asked what the girl on "the earth is burning" moans
before she says the title of the song outright.... I always just figured
she was saying "burn...burn!" why she'd be saying this so orgasmically is
somewhat odd, although I must admit to feeling like it wouldn't be all that
bad a thing myself sometimes=)
    3.  what's this I hear about another Orbital tour?  Anyone know of
confirmed spring or summer dates?  Anyone know if the Organic festival will
(please?PLEASE?) feature them?  Of course, if anyone, ie steve, has this
information and just can't let us all know yet its understood, but if we
can know please let us!  Thanks!
sorry this has been somewhat rambling,
ryan

...so I thought to myself, "what would God do in this situation?"
Then it came to me.  Locusts.



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From: [e-mail]
Subject: re:Question/Loopz news "Saint"
Date: 28 Jan 1997 9:02:48 GMT


>    1.  How good is the orbital song called "remind"?

Well its taken from the remix they did for Meat Beat Manifesto...minus the
vocals though. Its a acidic fusion of sound! Always was a good track
played in conjunction with Impact. If you get the Brown album , youll find
Remind on there...thats your best bet.

>    3.  what's this I hear about another Orbital tour?  Anyone know of
>confirmed spring or summer dates?  Anyone know if the Organic festival
>will
>(please?PLEASE?) feature them?  Of course, if anyone, ie steve, has this
>information and just can't let us all know yet its understood, but if we
>can know please let us!  Thanks!

No tour as far as i know...
I spoke to their manager end of last week and he stated that Glastonbury
was 99 percentage NO and Pheonix was a 50 / 50 chance. But apart from that
its work on the new album. Where did you hear that there was a tour ?

Also Orbital might be doing the theme track to the film "The Saint" based
on the 60/70 Tv series. They were approached after someone involved in the
film heard the live version of "Satan". The track has been passed to the
important people and a decision should be made today whether the track
will be used. Ill try and ring Paul today and find out what the crack is
(as they say in Liverpool).

>sorry this has been somewhat rambling,

Nothing like a good rambling!

Steve
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From: Greg Liu <[e-mail]>
Subject: "The Saint"
Date: 28 Jan 1997 01:21:52 -0800 (PST)

Not too ORBITAL related, but what is all this SAINT movie about - any
ideas?  who is directing it?  FSOL did a live ISDN broadcast the other
night and apparently, they may have a track in the movie as well...sounds
like it is going to be an amazing movie as far as the soundtrack is
concerned.  Sorry for the lack of ORBITAL in this message.

Cheers

Greg


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From: Shaun Rader <[e-mail]>
Subject: "It's a cry for survival..!"
Date: 28 Jan 1997 02:24:47 -0800

I'd like to rephrase my question-

What does the guy say after "..a cry for survival"?
It's the part that sounds almost like "survival's the main
of the ounce (which echoes)".  I really have no idea
what is being said there.

Thanks!
--
.    .   .  . .end of transmission. .  .   .    .


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From: Heikki Henriksen <[e-mail]>
Subject: re: Faithless.
Date: 28 Jan 1997 12:35:11 +0100 (MET)

For all you guys'n'gals interested in more info on Faitless,
the group with Rollo (remember Felix - Don't you want me?)
Sister Bliss, (remixer), Maxi Jazz (why does everyone say he
reminds them of Tricky???), Jami Catto (some non-dance guy).

Send an blank email to

    [e-mail]

for some more info and lotsa reviews.

  heikki

Heikki Henriksen                         e-mail:[e-mail]
Osloveien 16                             http://www.stud.ntnu.no/~heikkih/
7018 Trondheim                           tlf1: 73 50 45 93
Norway                                   tlf2: 906 55 216


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From: Jon Green <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: "It's a cry for survival..!"
Date: 28 Jan 1997 13:14:35 +0000

At 02:24 28/01/97 -0800, Shaun Rader wrote:
>I'd like to rephrase my question-
>
>What does the guy say after "..a cry for survival"?
>It's the part that sounds almost like "survival's the main
>of the ounce (which echoes)".  I really have no idea
>what is being said there.

'Survival for them and for us', I'm sure.

Jon


Jon Green: [e-mail]
"Then the clouds opened up over the target,
 target was there pretty as a picture.
 I made the run, let the bomb go,
that was my biggest thrill"



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From: Daniel Kasaj <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: least favorite Orbital song
Date: 28 Jan 1997 14:28:45 +0100 (MET)

>
><<  Also, I like the vocal of the guy
> saying something like (correct me if I'm wrong) "gotta take gotta take away
> gotta take got-gotta take..."  >>
>I always thought he was saying "tock-tick tocka-tick" etc. kinda like a clock
>gone nuts or something.  But I could easily be wrong....I'm far from the
>authority on what vocals say (remember my "close your eyes" interpretation of
>Dwr Budr?)

OK, here's the deal. We'll all gonna accept you as an authority on vocals if
you write down the correct lyrics to "I Wish I Had Duck Feet" and mail them
to the list.

:))

"...and when he walks his ankles go directly from his hips..."
--

   Daniel Kasaj - [e-mail]    URL: http://fly.cc.fer.hr/~leqash
  Home : Borovje 8, Zagreb, CROATIA                    phone - [phone]

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From: Jon <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: "It's a cry for survival..!"
Date: 28 Jan 1997 13:31:00 +0000 (GMT)




On Tue, 28 Jan 1997, Jon Green wrote:

> At 02:24 28/01/97 -0800, Shaun Rader wrote:
> >I'd like to rephrase my question-
> >
> >What does the guy say after "..a cry for survival"?
> >It's the part that sounds almost like "survival's the main
> >of the ounce (which echoes)".  I really have no idea
> >what is being said there.
>
> 'Survival for them and for us', I'm sure.
>
> Jon
>
>
> Jon Green: [e-mail]
> "Then the clouds opened up over the target,
>  target was there pretty as a picture.
>  I made the run, let the bomb go,
> that was my biggest thrill"
>
>
>

yeah, thats what i thought.

.....jON.....



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From: Ash Wong <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: orbital Digest V2 #169
Date: 28 Jan 1997 21:50:12 +0800

Hey folks,

SO much about the ravings of Richard d. James' new album.

Better known as Aphex Twin, I certainly think his previous album '...I Care
Because You Do' is MUCH better than the present one.  The present one,
pardon my frankness, just sounds like crap.  The symphony doesn't agree with
the squeaks and the melodies doesn't agree with the titles---

---what the hell is wrong with him anyway!?  He was the King of MOSH but now...

Just my opinions.
--- e n t i t y ---


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From: Ash Wong <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: orbital Digest V2 #170
Date: 28 Jan 1997 21:50:14 +0800

>From: Chris Herz <[e-mail]>
>Date: Sun, 26 Jan 1997 18:27:08 -0700
>Subject: Re: least favorite Orbital song
>
>>come on, folks, it's gotta be "Time becomes" and "Input out", no?

Actually no.  "Time becomes" is experimental and it has its merits.  It goes
on repetitively: "Time becomes a loop" and u hear the two voices go out of
synch, and then come back again.  Just like a loop.  That's an interesting
idea to me :)  And yes, like somebody mentioned, it isn't exactly a Sooonnggg...


entity
The chains of time,
Would anchor us forever,
To a lifetime of things we wouldn't do
And things we hate doing.


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From: Ash Wong <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: orbital Digest V2 #171
Date: 28 Jan 1997 21:50:16 +0800


>From: "Lazlo Nibble" <[e-mail]>
>Date: Mon, 27 Jan 1997 10:12:57 -0700 (MST)
>Subject: Re: Underworld - Rez
>
>> I know that Underworld have been going for a hellish long time, since
>> the late 80s? but what did they sound like before "dubnobass..."
>
>When they were Freur (early '80s) they were very doing crisp, eclectic
>synthpop.  Their first two albums as Underworld were synths-and-guitars
>electropop with a mild funk edge.

Where've u guys been?  They released their next album already... called
"Second Toughest of the Infants" and they even released a limited edition
2-cd set of that album.  The 2nd CD contains Born Slippy/(Nuxx) and Rex.

As far as i know, Underworld (Darren Emerson) is on to lots of remixing
right now.  For eg, they remixed Chemical Brother's LEave Home... and as
usual... they are FANTASTIC.  They are currently working on a remix for Bjork.

Underworld has new singles too : Pearls Girl (short) (3 tracks) as well as
another version of Pearls Girl single (3 tracks) containing a pulsating
Pearls Girl (tin there) as well as an exciting Born Slippy (the original
instrumental).

Well that's all i should say, i guess.  Sorry to the non-Underworld fans!  :)
Just helping :)

 e n t i t y



The chains of time,
Would anchor us forever,
To a lifetime of things we wouldn't do
And things we hate doing.


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From: Mark S-D <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Now at no. IR 7
Date: 28 Jan 1997 09:47:36 -0500

>Did anyone catch the complaint about Satan on TOTP that the BBC
>broadcast on the Biteback programme yesterday afternoon? Very
>funny!
Hey ! At least you could have enlightened us ! (I didn't see it.)
What was said ?  Does anybody know why the Satan Video wasn't
shown on BBC ? I thought it might be that TOTP banned it but I'm
not saying that's right, I heard it might have been because the
label didn't think it a good idea or something.....(you around
Steve ?).    Anyway.....back to the music.   Mark S-D

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From: Mark S-D <[e-mail]>
Subject: Halcyon/Green album
Date: 28 Jan 1997 09:47:52 -0500


>Just wondering, whats the difference between all of the different
>version of the green album and the Halcyon (Radiccio) single? which
>one(s) should I buy?
Theres a few different versions of the Green LP, I guess the most
common differences are...the US version has more tracks including
the original version of Satan, it's also got Farenheit 3D3 not the
usual one, I think Choice may be on there too, also either Midnight
or Chime isn't live on the USA one. So, get the USA release in other
words ! (I've got the UK one btw, I didn't know about the other one.)
I don't know what you mean by your Halcyon/Radicio question, but....
the advice I'd give is try to get hold of what you can, the shops near
me don't exactly overflow with Orbital EP's all week so I tend to do
that - theres people who will buy off you any Orbital stuff you might
not want.
>...and I agree that the The Box EP is one of my favorite tracks...
....yes, excellent !
I was suprised that someone thought Planet of the shapes was one of
the duffer ones. What about the flutey bit !! Desert Storm is great
too but I thought the fade in intro was a bit weird, that bit with the
helicopter style cross fade and the tune drops back in, now....come on,
you didn't like that ?? Theres nothing else like that track on earth !
IM(very)HO I think the "not so good as the others" award goes to er....
Steel cube idolatry. Feel free to flame me....I'll go and get my bread
and we can all have some toast !  Cya for now, Mark S-D


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From: [e-mail]
Subject: re:wired and BIG ISSUE
Date: 28 Jan 1997 14:18:16 GMT


>>>
anyone seen that double CD which has been advertised on TV called 'Wired'?

It sounds cool, with tracks from Orbital, Chem Bros, Leftfield, The Orb,
808 State and loads more!!!
>>>

It looks a good compilation ... if you dont have any of them (they are old
tracks).

The BIG ISSUE compilation is now out BTW!

Steve
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From: "Lazlo Nibble" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: orbital Digest V2 #171
Date: 28 Jan 1997 09:16:44 -0700 (MST)

> >> I know that Underworld have been going for a hellish long time, since
> >> the late 80s? but what did they sound like before "dubnobass..."
> >
> >When they were Freur (early '80s) they were very doing crisp, eclectic
> >synthpop.  Their first two albums as Underworld were synths-and-guitars
> >electropop with a mild funk edge.
>
> Where've u guys been?  They released their next album already...

Yes, I know -- I bought it when it came out last year.  What's your point?

--
::: Lazlo ([e-mail]; http://www.swcp.com/lazlo)

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From: ed naylor <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Now at no. IR 7
Date: 28 Jan 1997 16:30:53 -0500 (EST)

> >Did anyone catch the complaint about Satan on TOTP that the
BBC
> >broadcast on the Biteback programme yesterday afternoon? Very
> >funny!

> Hey ! At least you could have enlightened us ! (I didn't see it.)
> What was said ?

Someone (a Mrs. Margaret somebody I think) had written to
express her shock that da Bruvvers were promoting satanism on
primetime TV. Ric Blaxill the TOTP producer made some comment
back about how the boys are interested in a lot of issues but
not Satanism (I think that was the gist, it was all over so fast
- perhaps I dreamt it).

> Does anybody know why the Satan Video wasn't
> shown on BBC ? I thought it might be that TOTP banned it but I'm
> not saying that's right, I heard it might have been because the
> label didn't think it a good idea or something.....(you around
> Steve ?).    Anyway.....back to the music.   Mark S-D

The video ran into trouble because of the back projections
which included pictures of guns apparently. Does anyone know
where the video was shot, and can anyone confirm that it
differs from the TOTP footage, which appeared to come from the
Later with Jools Holland programme that they did in the Autumn.



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From: [e-mail] (Benjamin Knowles)
Subject: Re: Halcyon/Green album
Date: 28 Jan 1997 00:00:46 -0500

>Theres a few different versions of the Green LP, I guess the most
>common differences are...the US version has more tracks including
>the original version of Satan, it's also got Farenheit 3D3 not the
>usual one, I think Choice may be on there too, also either Midnight
>or Chime isn't live on the USA one. So, get the USA release in other
>words !

Yes, but the US version has the Moby Mutation of Speed Freak (which
everyone seems to think is much worse than the original, though I have no
idea), and is missing Steel Cube Idolatry and High Rise. And you can get
the single to Choice/Midnight fairly easily in the UK (i'm assuming).

>IM(very)HO I think the "not so good as the others" award goes to er....
>Steel cube idolatry.

I wouldn't know - I've never heard it!

-ben


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From: [e-mail]
Subject: re:Re: Halcyon/Green album
Date: 28 Jan 1997 17:12:09 GMT

>>
Yes, but the US version has the Moby Mutation of Speed Freak (which
everyone seems to think is much worse than the original, though I have no
idea),
>>>

Tis...true. Well thats my opinion. The original is far the superior.

> and is missing Steel Cube Idolatry and High Rise. And you can get
>the single to Choice/Midnight fairly easily in the UK (i'm assuming).

You can get the single to Choice/Midnight but the version on the original
first album is live (Midnight). Steel Cube is nice but High Rise is one of
my favourite Orbital oldies....very uplifting.

Steve
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From: [e-mail]
Subject: foundations
Date: 28 Jan 1997 17:15:20 GMT

=46oundations, the chartiy ablum including "Tranquilizer Busy
Tranquilizing" by Orbital is out now, I didn't expect it to be out for
about another month at least, but I found it on the shelf yesterday,
unfortunately I can't afford it this week.
One of you peeps must have it, so 'cmon, what's the Orbital rmx like?

take it easy
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From: [e-mail]
Subject: re:foundations
Date: 28 Jan 1997 17:49:03 GMT


>One of you peeps must have it, so 'cmon, what's the Orbital rmx like?

Couple of listens....prefer the original

Steve LOOPZ Price

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From: Hans Lo <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: orbital Digest V2
Date: 28 Jan 1997 13:55:33 -0500 (EST)

I like the idea of Time becomes. Although I wouldn't consider it a song,
I'd be interested to here it incorporated into a song... perhaps running
in the background.

Hans Lo (95001206)                    email:([e-mail])
[phone]                Joint Honours PoliSci/History
                    University of Waterloo.
    "Who I am is all I have left."
            -Det. Pembleton


On Tue, 28 Jan 1997, Ash Wong wrote:

> >From: Chris Herz <[e-mail]>
> >Date: Sun, 26 Jan 1997 18:27:08 -0700
> >Subject: Re: least favorite Orbital song
> >
> >>come on, folks, it's gotta be "Time becomes" and "Input out", no?
>
> Actually no.  "Time becomes" is experimental and it has its merits.  It goes
> on repetitively: "Time becomes a loop" and u hear the two voices go out of
> synch, and then come back again.  Just like a loop.  That's an interesting
> idea to me :)  And yes, like somebody mentioned, it isn't exactly a Sooonnggg...
>
>
> entity
> The chains of time,
> Would anchor us forever,
> To a lifetime of things we wouldn't do
> And things we hate doing.
>
>


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From: Hans Lo <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: foundations
Date: 28 Jan 1997 13:58:07 -0500 (EST)

What's this? A new Orbital single out this soon after Satan? Great, a
couple weeks after I leave London, they put something else new yet again.
I don't suppose there's going to be a North American release of this is
there? Hell, our CD's are much cheaper, but I can't find anything to buy
in this country.

Hans Lo (95001206)                    email:([e-mail])
[phone]                Joint Honours PoliSci/History
                    University of Waterloo.
    "Who I am is all I have left."
            -Det. Pembleton


On Tue, 28 Jan 1997 [e-mail] wrote:

> Foundations, the chartiy ablum including "Tranquilizer Busy
> Tranquilizing" by Orbital is out now, I didn't expect it to be out for
> about another month at least, but I found it on the shelf yesterday,
> unfortunately I can't afford it this week.
> One of you peeps must have it, so 'cmon, what's the Orbital rmx like?
>
> take it easy
>   _________________  ______  ___________   ___
>  |          /      \|      \|      \    | |   |
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>     |   |  |        |       |       |\_     _/
>     |   |  |        |       |       |  |   |
>     |___|   \______/|______/|______/   |___|
>
>
>
>


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From: Greg Liu <[e-mail]>
Subject: re:wired and BIG ISSUE
Date: 28 Jan 1997 11:08:37 -0800 (PST)

I know this is asking a lot, but I was wondering if somehow, some kind
soul could pick up a copy of that BIG ISSUE comp for me out there in the
UK.  I know I can't get that mag out here (states)...If some amazing
person could be so kind, I would definitely be forever grateful and will
undoubtedly reimburse them.  Sorry for being a possible burden.

Thanks

Greg


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From: Chris Herz <[e-mail]>
Subject: desert storm
Date: 28 Jan 1997 11:41:25 -0700

> ....Desert Storm is great
>too but I thought the fade in intro was a bit weird, that bit with the
>helicopter style cross fade and the tune drops back in, now....come on,
>you didn't like that ?? Theres nothing else like that track on earth !
>IM(very)HO I think the "not so good as the others" award goes to er....
>Steel cube idolatry. Feel free to flame me....I'll go and get my bread
>and we can all have some toast !  Cya for now, Mark S-D

I think the beginning was refering to us (USA) attacking Baghdad (sp?)
iraq...  "find the city of the dead..."  plus look at the title.... B^)

Ok! i'll give ya the helicopter fades... i was impressed w/ that...  but
after that it goes into the same type of tune..  i was kinda exprecting
some sort of change when i first heard it....  i didnt say i hated it, just
thought it was a weeee bit too long and repetitive....  theres my 2=A5.....




        -Chris Herz

[e-mail]

http://www.interwerks.com        http://www.chs.lane.edu/~chrish



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From: Andrew Jackson <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: desert storm
Date: 28 Jan 1997 19:46:50 GMT


> I think the beginning was refering to us (USA) attacking Baghdad (sp?)
> iraq...  "find the city of the dead..."  plus look at the title.... B^)

The vocal sample is actually from 'Beneath The Planet Of The Apes'
starring James Franciscus and Charlton Heston. It is taken from the
later sequences in the film where the mutant humans prepare to
detonate the nuclear warhead which they worship as a deity.

Just my lickle twopenneth!

Andy
"Some people are afraid of heights.
 Not me - I'm afraid of widths."   (Stephen Wright)

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From: Aimee Merritt <[e-mail]>
Subject: "The Saint" -Reply
Date: 28 Jan 1997 08:32:30 -0800

The Saint is based on a British television series from the Sixties, I believe,
which starred Roger Moore. The film version will star Val Kilmer.

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: re:SATAN Video
Date: 28 Jan 1997 16:29:02 GMT

[COMPLAINT]
>Hey ! At least you could have enlightened us ! (I didn't see it.)
>What was said ?

I also missed it....enlighten me! as well!

>  Does anybody know why the Satan Video wasn't
>shown on BBC ?

The BBC didnt like the images and also the record company have not
distributed the video (much) because of the images it portrays.

(you around Steve ?)

No :)

Steve
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From: Mark S-D <[e-mail]>
Subject: Ignore this, thanks.
Date: 28 Jan 1997 15:24:32 -0500

>>- "Chime/Deeper" on Oh-zone Records. Zone 001.White card sleeve.
>>
>I'll bid 10UK pounds each, though I may not be interested in the Chime
>one coz I think I can get it elsewhere,
Hey c'mon now....that pressings got to worth at least 11 I bid 11 !

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From: Joona =?iso-8859-1?Q?P=94yh=94nen?=  <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: "The Saint" -Reply
Date: 28 Jan 1997 22:58:36 +0200 (EET)

At 08.32 28.1.1997 -0800, you wrote:
>The Saint is based on a British television series from the Sixties, I=
 believe,
>which starred Roger Moore. The film version will star Val Kilmer.=20

When is this movie in theaters?
I want to see it
joona p=F6yh=F6nen
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From: "Lazlo Nibble" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: "The Saint"
Date: 28 Jan 1997 14:21:29 -0700 (MST)

>> The Saint is based on a British television series from the Sixties, I
>> believe, which starred Roger Moore. The film version will star Val
>> Kilmer.
>
> When is this movie in theaters?

US release date is March 14.  Dunno when the soundtrack is due out.

--
::: Lazlo ([e-mail]; http://www.swcp.com/lazlo)

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From: Aimee Merritt <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: "The Saint" -Reply -Reply
Date: 28 Jan 1997 13:25:51 -0800

It hits theaters at the end of March (in the US, that is...don't know about
UK release dates).

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Wired Jan Issue
Date: 28 Jan 1997 14:54:33 -0500 (EST)

Pick up the new January Wired Magazine if you can...

On page 104 "Digital Underground" (great store in Philadelphia BTW)...
this article addresses bootlegs in a BIG way...read it!!!
talks mainly about laws, what you can do on the web and such.


or mail me privately for more info
jamie

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: desert storm
Date: 28 Jan 1997 23:02:23 GMT


>I think the beginning was refering to us (USA) attacking Baghdad (sp?)
>iraq...  "find the city of the dead..."  plus look at the title.... B^)

nah, it's from beneath the planet of the apes, great film.

take it easy
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From: "Lazlo Nibble" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Chime Remix..?
Date: 28 Jan 1997 19:40:32 -0700 (MST)

>>> that's the UK version, isn't it - with Halcyon and two other songs? I
>>> want the US version, with 6 tracks, and i'm desperate!
>>
>> You are destined to remain desparate, Ben . . . there is no US version
>> with 6 tracks . . . the US version has five (Halcyon, Naked And The
>> Dead, Naked And The Dub, Sunday, and the radio edit of Chime).
>
> Well, it appears that Paul Mison's "Stopped Clock" discography is not
> quite in kahoots (sp?) with your own, since it says that there are,
> indeed, 6 tracks on the US release. I'm guessing that he was talking
> about the Japan version.

No disrespect meant to Paul but his discog definitely confuses the US and
Japanese CDs in this case.  I've got both CDs at hand as I type this and his
listing assigns the US catalog number to the Japanese tracklist.

--
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From: ^EA^ <[e-mail]>
Subject: [Fwd: (idm) orbital soundtrax.]
Date: 28 Jan 1997 23:23:59 -0800

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Posted on idm list last night (tuesday)

what do you know about this steve? and what is cybersleaze refering to?

Mick

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>From Cybersleaze:

British dance gurus THE ORBITAL are saying 'halo' to a big pay check
thanks to Hollywood blockbuster THE SAINT. Movie moguls at Paramount
asked the SATAN band to record a song for the soundtrack after a
producer working on the VAL KILMER film heard the hip group on the
radio. And Orbital's PAUL HARTNALL was only too pleased to oblige after
being offered a lucrative five figure deal. Hartnall adds, "I think they
will adapt the music and make it more in the same vain as THE MAN FROM
U.N.C.L.E. It might be silly if they don't use it but we don't care
now."

BTW, FSOL have also contributed a song to the soundtrack. Who knows who
else will as well. This will probably shape up to be the Wipeout of film
soundtracks...
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From: Shaun Rader <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: "It's a cry for survival..!"
Date: 28 Jan 1997 22:32:51 -0800

Jon Green[SMTP:[e-mail]] wrote:

> 'Survival for them and for us', I'm sure.

Thank you!  How did you know that?  I've heard that
song hundreds of times and I still couldn't figure it out.

What other songs have words?  I really thought all
the vocals were just 'singing' with no particular words.

Sad But True?  I know I make out some words in that,
or maybe I'm just crazy--
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From: Chris Herz <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: "It's a cry for survival..!"
Date: 29 Jan 1997 00:40:13 -0700


>> 'Survival for them and for us', I'm sure.

hmmmm... i kinda thought twas "survival is the payment for us"...  but
thats just the wacky me singing that.. ;^)  ok. nuf rambling.......



        -Chris Herz

[e-mail]

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (orbital) faq, cja
Date: 29 Jan 1997 03:47:55 -0500

Here we go again (or, indeed, have been going for the last couple of days).

From the putative FAQ:

2.4 Why doesn't my copy of the Green album have Satan on it?

And I'll leave you to look it up at http://members.aol.com/pmison/ofaq.htm

As to the CJB/A, it was passed in November 1994, and while it has some harsh
provisions which really aught to be repealed, it's never really been used
against dance music parties/ raves, although it has affected the likes of
hunt sabs, roads protestors and so on. The continued persecution (percieved
at the very least) of the dance (arguably youth) culture in the UK has had
more of an effect- cf the postponment (sp?) of the '96 Tribal Gathering on
the grounds of 'traffic', while a gig in Hyde Park (traffic jam capital) went
ahead with not a murmur of protest.

(A lot of this is my perception; some people on this list might be closer to
the Act's cutting edge and have a more jaundiced view of it).

(obOrbital: they were quite keen to point out the stupidity of this
themselves last May when it was all happening). (Also, I was going to post
this yesterday, sorry....)

Paul Mison
[e-mail]
monsters exist

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (orbital) Brats and Brits
Date: 29 Jan 1997 03:47:44 -0500 (EST)

Orbital didn't win anything at the Brats (the NME awards) yesterday, istr.
The Prodigy won best dance act and best video, while Born Slippy was best
single.

They're nominated for best video at the Brits (the UK Grammys, sort of). I'm
not sure if the voting for this is on Live & Kicking (the Saturday morning
kids show) like it was a couple of years back, but if it is then we aught to
see what the list can do to stop the evil Spice Girls sweeping the board
(probably not much, but we have to try).

Cheers. Paul.
monsters exist.

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Halcyon (was: Re: Chime Remix..?)
Date: 29 Jan 1997 04:02:59 -0500 (EST)

On the subject of Halcyon:

" > Well, it appears that Paul Mison's "Stopped Clock" discography is not
 > quite in kahoots (sp?) with your own, since it says that there are,
 > indeed, 6 tracks on the US release. I'm guessing that he was talking
 > about the Japan version.

 No disrespect meant to Paul but his discog definitely confuses the US and
 Japanese CDs in this case.  I've got both CDs at hand as I type this and his
 listing assigns the US catalog number to the Japanese tracklist.

 ::: Lazlo ([e-mail]; http://www.swcp.com/lazlo)"

Point accepted. I'll root around what passes for my email archive and see if
I can find the correct US tracklist or Japanese cat. no. and correct them
imminently (along with the 2nd birthday new look front screen, Satan reviews,
picture archive and if I'm really feeling like typing tonight a new
interview....)

Paul.
monsters exist.

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: QUESTION
Date: 29 Jan 1997 04:43:38 -0500

I erased the last couple of messages, that were talking about the words to
Halycon, and Earth is Burning.  SO if someone would let me know about them I
would like it.  matter of fact I would really like it.  SOmeone email me back
and let me know for crying out loud!

There are some other things too.  I just ordered all 3 versions of the SATAN
 cd's and I was wondering what people thought of it.  That and all the
Orbital fans that i know, are also big Prodigy fans.  ANyone get the BREATHE
single yet?

I am not one of those main stream people, that only likes Chem Brothers, and
the new releases of Orbital.  I have all the old, stuff and I love it.
 ANything new is the best

SOmeone letme know about the words to the songs

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From: Shaun Rader <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (orbital) Brats and Brits
Date: 29 Jan 1997 01:54:49 -0800

[e-mail] wrote:
> Orbital didn't win anything at the Brats (the NME awards) yesterday, istr.
> The Prodigy won best dance act and best video, while Born Slippy was best
> single.

Has Orbital ever won a music award?

> not sure if the voting for this is on Live & Kicking (the Saturday morning
> kids show) like it was a couple of years back, but if it is then we aught to
> see what the list can do to stop the evil Spice Girls sweeping the board
> (probably not much, but we have to try).

What is this all about?  Do you mean to say that
kids voted for the Brits a few years back?  I'm not
in the UK but that sounds pretty bizarre.

Shaun
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From: Shaun Rader <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: "The Saint"
Date: 29 Jan 1997 01:50:31 -0800

Lazlo Nibble[SMTP:[e-mail]] wrote:

> US release date is March 14.  Dunno when the soundtrack is due out.

Seriously?? And Orbital is doing the soundtrack for this
movie?  If so, they better get on the ball.. that's hard to
believe.  How long does it take to record a full album??

Shaun
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From: [e-mail]
Subject: re:R. Taylor and a new Orbital album?
Date: 29 Jan 1997 11:23:21 GMT



>Do you guys think we might see another single off "In Sides" ?

Definatly NOT! :)

Cheers

Steve LOOPZ Price

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: re:Re: foundations
Date: 29 Jan 1997 11:43:39 GMT

Ermm..its not a new single...its a spare track for a compilation.

Steve LOOPZ Price

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Sent by:Hans Lo <[e-mail]>
 What's this? A new Orbital single out this soon after Satan? Great, a
couple weeks after I leave London, they put something else new yet again.
I don't suppose there's going to be a North American release of this is
there? Hell, our CD's are much cheaper, but I can't find anything to buy
in this country.

----
Hans Lo (95001206)                    email:([e-mail])
[phone]                Joint Honours PoliSci/History
                    University of Waterloo.
    "Who I am is all I have left."
            -Det. Pembleton
----


On Tue, 28 Jan 1997 [e-mail] wrote:

> Foundations, the chartiy ablum including "Tranquilizer Busy
> Tranquilizing" by Orbital is out now, I didn't expect it to be out for
> about another month at least, but I found it on the shelf yesterday,
> unfortunately I can't afford it this week.
> One of you peeps must have it, so 'cmon, what's the Orbital rmx like?
>
> take it easy
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>     |___|   \______/|______/|______/   |___|
>
>
>
>


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From: [e-mail]
Subject: re:[Fwd: (idm) orbital soundtrax.]
Date: 29 Jan 1997 12:02:58 GMT

Yep...its true...but this person has just been reading Teletext (or maybe
a friend of his/her has) on Bbc1 or heard this on Radio 1 (The quote is
from Radio1s news thingy called the Net). I still dont know if the
soundtrack has been accepted.

Hopefully we will know at the end of the week.

Cheers

Steve LOOPZ Price

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Sent by:^EA^ <[e-mail]>
 Posted on idm list last night (tuesday)

what do you know about this steve? and what is cybersleaze refering to?

Mick

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>From Cybersleaze:

British dance gurus THE ORBITAL are saying 'halo' to a big pay check
thanks to Hollywood blockbuster THE SAINT. Movie moguls at Paramount
asked the SATAN band to record a song for the soundtrack after a
producer working on the VAL KILMER film heard the hip group on the
radio. And Orbital's PAUL HARTNALL was only too pleased to oblige after
being offered a lucrative five figure deal. Hartnall adds, "I think they
will adapt the music and make it more in the same vain as THE MAN FROM
U.N.C.L.E. It might be silly if they don't use it but we don't care
now."

BTW, FSOL have also contributed a song to the soundtrack. Who knows who
else will as well. This will probably shape up to be the Wipeout of film
soundtracks...
   _____
  / ,-,_)
 /,_)
(/  RESH
Live & Direct from the G-Spot,
Orange County, California, USA
http://www1.linkonline.net/fresh/fresh.htm


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From: [e-mail]
Subject: re:ORBITAL WON VIBES AT NME!
Date: 29 Jan 1997 12:06:19 GMT

>Sent by:[e-mail]
> Orbital didn't win anything at the Brats (the NME awards) yesterday,
>istr.
>The Prodigy won best dance act and best video, while Born Slippy was best
>single.

Ermm...Paul - Orbital won best vibes act at the NME Brats awards last
night!

and ive fondled their award for best live act (when helping Paul move
studio). Unfortunatly i couldnt think of anywhere to stash it - down my
trousers maybe.

>They're nominated for best video at the Brits (the UK Grammys, sort of).
>I'm not sure if the voting for this is on Live & Kicking (the Saturday
>morning kids show) like it was a couple of years back, but if it is then
>we aught to see what the list can do to stop the evil Spice Girls
>sweeping the board (probably not much, but we have to try).

I love the Spice Girls (Yum Yum!)

Cheers

Steve LOOPZ Price

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: re:RE: (orbital) Brats and Brits
Date: 29 Jan 1997 12:14:20 GMT


>>>>
Has Orbital ever won a music award?
>>.


Lots...honest quite a few...a couple... :)
They have won best live, best dance (a couple of times) and now vibes
award.
>>>
What is this all about?  Do you mean to say that
kids voted for the Brits a few years back?  I'm not
in the UK but that sounds pretty bizarre.
>>>

Its a bizarre country run by bizarre commercialised groups.... :)
But the Spice Girls at least look nice

Cheers

Steve LOOPZ Price

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From: ed naylor <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: RE: (orbital) Brats and Brits
Date: 29 Jan 1997 12:20:07 -0500 (EST)


> Has Orbital ever won a music award?

Didn't they win a Brat for best (live) dance act last
year or the year before?

> > not sure if the voting for this is on Live & Kicking (the Saturday morning
> > kids show) like it was a couple of years back, but if it is then we aught to
> > see what the list can do to stop the evil Spice Girls sweeping the board
> > (probably not much, but we have to try).
>
> What is this all about?  Do you mean to say that
> kids voted for the Brits a few years back?  I'm not
> in the UK but that sounds pretty bizarre.

Voting for best vid Brit has been by "THE KIDZ" for
several years, I seem to recall a mass DM fan ring-in
leading to Enjoy the Silence winning a few years back.

PS The Spice Girls aren't evil, they are the future of
dance-based popular music, and thank God for that.




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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: orbital win vibes
Date: 29 Jan 1997 07:43:28 -0500 (EST)

Steve wrote in reply to my earlier message:

" Subj:    re:ORBITAL WON VIBES AT NME!

 >Sent by:[e-mail]
 > Orbital didn't win anything at the Brats (the NME awards) yesterday, istr.
 >The Prodigy won best dance act and best video, while Born Slippy was best
single.

 Ermm...Paul - Orbital won best vibes act at the NME Brats awards last
 night!

 and ive fondled their award for best live act (when helping Paul move
 studio). Unfortunatly i couldnt think of anywhere to stash it - down my
 trousers maybe."

Must have been asleep when that one came on the radio. Have to go and check
in the newsagents then, won't I?

"I love the Spice Girls (Yum Yum!)"

No, you *lust after* the Spice Girls. Or did you buy Wannabee last August :O)
? ( Anyway, what's with the one in the tracksuit? Oh dear, it hurts just
thinking about it....)

" Cheers

 Steve LOOPZ Price"

Corrected once more. Not having a good day, am I?

 Paul. monsters exist.
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From: Jon Green <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: RE: (orbital) Brats and Brits
Date: 29 Jan 1997 12:50:27 +0000

At 12:20 29/01/97 -0500, ed naylor wrote:

>PS The Spice Girls aren't evil, they are the future of
>dance-based popular music, and thank God for that.

 And not bad looking either :-)


Jon Green: [e-mail]
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 target was there pretty as a picture.
 I made the run, let the bomb go,
that was my biggest thrill"



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From: Aleksandra Adamovic <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: RE: (orbital) Brats and Brits
Date: 29 Jan 1997 14:05:41 +0100 (MET)

>
> >PS The Spice Girls aren't evil, they are the future of
> >dance-based popular music, and thank God for that.
>
>  And not bad looking either :-)
>

  Steve, I might as well send that picture of a horse then....
  Oh, well...

  Sasha.



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From: [e-mail]
Subject: re:Interview With Orbital
Date: 29 Jan 1997 12:57:05 GMT

Hi
Will be going down London soon to give your letter across...

Thought favour for a favour ... :)

>http://www.mass-music.com/audio/orbital.ram

Im behind a firewall so now audio...can this file be made available for me
to download ? Would like to hear it.

Steve
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From: [e-mail]
Subject: re:Re: orbital win vibes
Date: 29 Jan 1997 13:19:20 GMT

>>>
Must have been asleep when that one came on the radio. Have to go and
check
in the newsagents then, won't I?
>>>

Just turn to Page 480 on Channel 4....its all there is black and
white...well yellow and black ;)

>"I love the Spice Girls (Yum Yum!)"
>No, you *lust after* the Spice Girls. Or did you buy Wannabee last August

Lust...me...never....GF sister bought the cd to my house the other
day....no visuals though :(

>? ( Anyway, what's with the one in the tracksuit? Oh dear, it hurts just
>thinking about it....)

Yeah...she is the worse...the rest...yes please! :)

Anyway...i wish i never had this much mail...its a nightmare!!!!!

Steve Loopz Price

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From: Joona =?iso-8859-1?Q?P=94yh=94nen?=  <[e-mail]>
Subject: Best song
Date: 29 Jan 1997 16:41:23 +0200 (EET)

You guys have been fighting which song
is the best, but I do have a good idea:
Sad but True

the best ever made, or maybe not
joona p=F6yh=F6nen
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From: Joona =?iso-8859-1?Q?P=94yh=94nen?=  <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: QUESTION
Date: 29 Jan 1997 16:42:51 +0200 (EET)

At 04.43 29.1.1997 -0500, you wrote:
>I erased the last couple of messages, that were talking about the words to
>Halycon, and Earth is Burning.  SO if someone would let me know about them=
 I
>would like it.  matter of fact I would really like it.  SOmeone email me=
 back
>and let me know for crying out loud!
>
>There are some other things too.  I just ordered all 3 versions of the=
 SATAN
> cd's and I was wondering what people thought of it.  That and all the
>Orbital fans that i know, are also big Prodigy fans.  ANyone get the=
 BREATHE
>single yet?

I think Breathe is too simple, compared to Orbital


>I am not one of those main stream people, that only likes Chem Brothers,=
 and
>the new releases of Orbital.  I have all the old, stuff and I love it.
> ANything new is the best
>
>SOmeone letme know about the words to the songs
>
>
joona p=F6yh=F6nen
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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re[3]: foundations
Date: 29 Jan 1997 14:42:14 -0500

     C'mon Steve - no fair teasing us - what's it going to appear on??? ;)


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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re[3]: (orbital) Brats and Brits
Date: 29 Jan 1997 14:57:11 -0500

     Hang on - besides the fact that:
     *one's got a head like a bottle-brush,
     *one looks like a knacker (undesirable type of Dubliner living in
     council flat sniffing glue for fun) complete with Dunnes Stores
     (fashion outlet for same) tracksuit,
     *one looks like a strange red-haired lizard/pixie hybrid
     *one doesn't do or look like anything much, besides dark & limp (do I
     feel an Underworl remix coming on...?), and
     *one looks like an overgrown Sindy/paedophile porn movie star
     you still reckon they're the future of dance-based pop?  How's about
     Peter Andre then??!:<

     C'mon Steve & Jon, surely you're not losing all your good taste on us,
     are you?  Besides, they look bloody AWFUL in shorts - check out that
     ad in this months "Loaded"...! ;>>>



     The Spite Girls..

     Oh alright then - they're not quite that bad.  Could be worse - you
     could have liked Boyzone!!


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At 12:20 29/01/97 -0500, ed naylor wrote:

>PS The Spice Girls aren't evil, they are the future of
>dance-based popular music, and thank God for that.

 And not bad looking either :-)


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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: "It's a cry for survival..!"
Date: 29 Jan 1997 10:26:43 -0500 (EST)

here ya'll go who want to know (steve can back me on this one :-)  )
I have listened to this song so many times in the last 3-4 years...

"It's, it's, it's, it's, it's a cry for suvival...a cry for
survival...survival for them and for us!...a cry for survival...for their
survival and for our survival!"

You can really tell on the live Impact from Satan EP # 3....

Now my question to all of you is: Who is singing on the Belfast/Wasted remix
on the "Wasted Compilation Double Cd"??? (guy and girl)...

jamie

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From: Aimee Merritt <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: "The Saint" -Reply
Date: 29 Jan 1997 08:23:05 -0800

They're not doing the ENTIRE soundtrack-- they are just contributing a
song. The press release doesn't even really say whether it is a new
track. FSOL is also contributing.

>>> Shaun Rader <[e-mail]> 01/29/97 01:50am >>>
Lazlo Nibble[SMTP:[e-mail]] wrote:

> US release date is March 14.  Dunno when the soundtrack is due out.

Seriously?? And Orbital is doing the soundtrack for this
movie?  If so, they better get on the ball.. that's hard to
believe.  How long does it take to record a full album??

Shaun
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From: [e-mail]
Subject: re:Who sang Belfast/Wasted
Date: 29 Jan 1997 17:00:38 GMT



>Now my question to all of you is: Who is singing on the Belfast/Wasted
>remix on the "Wasted Compilation Double Cd"??? (guy and girl)...

Fultano....who designs the majority of cd packages and also derived the
orbital logo. Man!

Cheers

Steve LOOPZ Price

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: re:Re[3]: foundations
Date: 29 Jan 1997 17:02:02 GMT

Im not teasing...
Ive already mentioned that it is on FOUNDATIONS the compilation CD that is
created by THE BIG ISSUE who support homeless people. You must have missed
a message (or it never got there...story of my life!). :)))

Its out now...as well.

Cheers

Steve

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      C'mon Steve - no fair teasing us - what's it going to appear on???
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From: ed naylor <[e-mail]>
Subject: Bats and Bits
Date: 29 Jan 1997 17:01:49 -0500 (EST)

Hang on - besides the fact that:
>      *one's got a head like a bottle-brush,
>      *one looks like a knacker (undesirable type of Dubliner living in
>      council flat sniffing glue for fun) complete with Dunnes Stores
>      (fashion outlet for same) tracksuit,
>      *one looks like a strange red-haired lizard/pixie hybrid
>      *one doesn't do or look like anything much, besides dark & limp (do I
>      feel an Underworl remix coming on...?), and
>      *one looks like an overgrown Sindy/paedophile porn movie star
>      you still reckon they're the future of dance-based pop?  How's about
>      Peter Andre then??!:<

What is it about women and the Spice Girls?  They (that is women)
were all quite happy when Take That were winning critical acclaim
for their classic pop tunes and soulful harmonies, putting the
boot in to any man who dared to speak against out the Fab Five.
Things are very different now of course, has anyone heard ANYTHING
good said about the Spicees by a female over the age of 14?

Something is strange is going on here, whatever happened to female
solidarity? I think we should be told.





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From: [e-mail]
Subject: re:Re[3]: (orbital) Brats and Brits
Date: 29 Jan 1997 17:08:59 GMT


>  C'mon Steve & Jon, surely you're not losing all your good taste on
>  us, are you?  Besides, they look bloody AWFUL in shorts - check out
>  that ad in this months "Loaded"...! ;>>>

Aha....but this is coming from a women....!!!!!!
Its about time that us lads had a bit of totty to view on the
commercialised television. I mean Boyzone, Take That, etc you lot had
loads....

We need more all women groups that sound terrible but look good. Kill
Mariah (dog - oops!) , Belinda (fat smack!) and that bloody Cher!

Bring on some spice....

(Steve has obviously had a bad day at work...and besides he is now
Unsubscribing....) :0

Cheers

Steve LOOPZ Price

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From: Hans Lo <[e-mail]>
Subject: re:wired and BIG ISSUE
Date: 29 Jan 1997 12:49:43 -0500 (EST)

> >>>
> anyone seen that double CD which has been advertised on TV called 'Wired'?
>
> It sounds cool, with tracks from Orbital, Chem Bros, Leftfield, The Orb,
> 808 State and loads more!!!
> >>>

I tend to ignor the crap that is advertised on TV... But I might check it
out. They probably have only the most popular song from those artists so I
probably have everything spread out over my CD collection.


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From: Daniel Kasaj <[e-mail]>
Subject: EPs
Date: 29 Jan 1997 18:51:21 +0100 (MET)


OK, all you guys and gals have had the time to listen to the new Satan LIVE
EP , all three CDs.
In your opinion, which one could be considered 'the best' ?

I mean, my favourite is numero duo.


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From: [e-mail] (Benjamin Knowles)
Subject: re: impact words
Date: 29 Jan 1997 01:32:44 -0500

is the version of Impact on the US release different from that on the UK
release? I'm asking because a while back someone said that there is
actually a voice saying "the earth is burning." the only voices i hear in
the song are the "cry for survival" dude and some random female warblings
that come a couple minutes before. is that the voice that is supposedly
saying "the earth is burning... burn burn"??? i swear i just don't hear it.

-ben

PS - sorry this voices discussion has been going on so long.

PPS - for those of you that _do_ like Spice Girls, all i've heard is
Wannabe - is the album worth getting? (if and when it is finally released
in the states, that is...)


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From: u04ncc <[e-mail]>
Subject: re: impact words
Date: 29 Jan 1997 19:04:16 +0000 (GMT)

If you listen, and you want to hear it, a very faint murmuring of "the
earth is burning" can be heard, though it does sound more like a few moans
with the same amount of sylables as the phrase. If you didn't know what
you were listening for, you'd never guess that was what was being said.

That's on the UK one anyway, I've no idea about the US one.

Niall C Christie

Oh, and is there anyone else out there who thinks the 2nd track on The
Box EP is one of Orbital's finest moments?

On Wed, 29 Jan 1997, Benjamin Knowles wrote:

> is the version of Impact on the US release different from that on the UK
> release? I'm asking because a while back someone said that there is
> actually a voice saying "the earth is burning." the only voices i hear in
> the song are the "cry for survival" dude and some random female warblings
> that come a couple minutes before. is that the voice that is supposedly
> saying "the earth is burning... burn burn"??? i swear i just don't hear it.
>
> -ben
>


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From: ERLEND <[e-mail]>
Subject: BEST TRACK RESULTS
Date: 29 Jan 1997 19:58:01 -0800

ok here is the results so far (i hope this is what you wanted)

i've gotta say... ummm....

*Impact (the earth is burning)*

that okay?

-b
(For the record, personally it's probably still Lush 3).
hmmmmm, this is difficult, I'd say that Semi Detached/Attached from
the Peel Session is my fave choon, if I'm not allowed to have that coz
it's actually two choons then it'll probably be The Tranquilizer or
perhaps Attached from Snivilisation.

but then again, Who Are They? is just absolutely brilliant - and is
probably the most important Orbital choon for me personally, oh I
don't know, I can't really answer that queston at all.

take it easy
I seem to be in good company here w/Lush 3 as my favorite--but Out There
Somewhere is definitely a close second...

While we're on the topic, I'm interested about everyone's LEAST favorite
Orbital tune, too.....mine's Times Fly (slow)
I've been quitely reading the mail and have to say " The naked and the
dead" has got to be one of my least favorite orbital tracks.
not wery much tough, but it might be useful anyway
i did not include the least tracks wich i belive was more.
*************************************************************************

                         ***TOBY***

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From: ebbhead <[e-mail]>
Subject: re:Re[3]: foundations
Date: 29 Jan 1997 14:16:13 -0500

>Im not teasing...
>Ive already mentioned that it is on FOUNDATIONS the compilation CD that is
>created by THE BIG ISSUE who support homeless people. You must have missed
>a message (or it never got there...story of my life!). :)))
Thanks for reminding us Steve!  It was probably a thousand messages ago (2
or three days ago? heheh)  Not complaining of list activity though--I love
it! ;)

>Its out now...as well.
Released in the US as well?

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: EPs
Date: 29 Jan 1997 15:10:11 -0500 (EST)

My favorite would have to be #1 for Satan because #2's sound quality is very
low...except at the end when it fades into TGWTSIHH..then its great!!

But really--I think all 3 are great...how can you ask for a favourite song
when the band is awesome themselves?!

I thought us americans were the only ones who always found something wrong
with everything, just to be different?!

jamie

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From: fanno <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: EPs
Date: 29 Jan 1997 12:24:38 -0800 (PST)



On Wed, 29 Jan 1997 [e-mail] wrote:

> My favorite would have to be #1 for Satan because #2's sound quality is very
> low...except at the end when it fades into TGWTSIHH..then its great!!
>
> But really--I think all 3 are great...how can you ask for a favourite song
> when the band is awesome themselves?!
>
> I thought us americans were the only ones who always found something wrong
> with everything, just to be different?!
>
> jamie
>
My favorite is number 3, only because of the live versions of
Chime/Impact.  I mean impact rips to the nth degree.  Especially when the
up and down acidy sound fills in right after the tweaky distorted
electro/synth guitar sound.  Does anyone know what I mean by that?  I do
believe that what is said is "It's a cry for survival, for their survival
and for our survival...survial for them and for us(or could it be-earth?).
And I always thought that the girl is moaning "earth is burning" in some
distorted way.  But as Jamie said it is hard to pick a fav out of the
three.  They're all awesome in their own way. My $.02.

Jeff Fanno


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From: [e-mail]
Subject: 'Wired CD'...
Date: 29 Jan 1997 15:25:38 -0500 (EST)

What double cd set??
where do you get it??

jamie

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From: Daniel Kasaj <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: EPs
Date: 29 Jan 1997 21:37:58 +0100 (MET)

>
>
>My favorite would have to be #1 for Satan because #2's sound quality is very
>low...except at the end when it fades into TGWTSIHH..then its great!!
>
>But really--I think all 3 are great...how can you ask for a favourite song
>when the band is awesome themselves?!
>
>I thought us americans were the only ones who always found something wrong
>with everything, just to be different?!

hey man I didn't say there was ANYTHING wrong !
I could alse have asked which one of them you hold in your CD player most
of the time, but since I got a 3 CD changer (I have all three S.L. EP CDs
loaded up) it kinda bugs of. But #2 is what I play most of the time.
and as for Impact on #3...like Steve (Loopz) said - it's the higlight of the
EP.


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From: Daniel Kasaj <[e-mail]>
Subject: "The Earth Is Burning"
Date: 29 Jan 1997 22:30:56 +0100 (MET)


OK, someone here thought he had a different version of Impact, with no
female voice saying "The Earth Is Burning".

It comes when you hear the "moaning" of a woman, before the guys starts
talking about survival.
She says "Oooh...the Earth...the Earth is burning...ooh" , and on the cd
THREE you can hear it for the first time at 3:37.
This repeats 3 times after.

hope it helps.

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: EPs
Date: 29 Jan 1997 23:16:26 GMT


>OK, all you guys and gals have had the time to listen to the new Satan =
LIVE
>EP , all three CDs.
>In your opinion, which one could be considered 'the best' ?

just to be awkward, my fave is number 12.
(the vinyl version, coz it's got all the trax on it plus choice...and
no crowd noise, so it must be the best eh?

take it easy
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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: Re[3]: (orbital) Brats and Brits
Date: 29 Jan 1997 23:32:29 GMT


>Author:  Jon Green <[e-mail]> at Internet2

this wouldn't be ucl.ac.uk as in University Of Central Lancashire in
Preston would it? If so, then I also live in Preston, if not, then
forget I was ever born.

take it easy
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From: jeff <[e-mail]>
Subject: questions...
Date: 29 Jan 1997 21:39:44 -0500

can anyone tell me if the real audio orbital concert(s?) is/are available
anywhere (i procrastinated and just now downloaded real audio)...if it is
perhaps it should be put in the update of the FAQ...also, has the
faishonably loud mtv special (w/tricky, proodigy, and republica) been played
in europe yet?...finally, can someone tell me if my sig. is correct?...thanks...

-jeff

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* "Are we here?... Are we unique, are we something possibly special in     *
*  the universe or are we an example of many, many civilizatons that have  *
*  emerged many, many different lifeforms?..." -orbital "Are We Here?"     *
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From: ebbhead <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re:The search for Halcyon (reasonably priced)
Date: 30 Jan 1997 00:31:05 -0500

>> >I, too, have tried ordering the US Halcyon single from about three
>on-line
>> >places now, all of which say they have it, only to be dissapointed when
>> >they find it "out of stock." f*ckers.
>> >
>> have you tried cdnow or abcd?
>> i got mine from cd now and it arrived quite rapidly.
If anyone's still interested, I've seen a copy listed for $7 at this online
store:
http://www.cdbanzai.com/

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From: "Steve Goss" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Re:The search for Halcyon (reasonably priced)
Date: 29 Jan 1997 22:39:21 -0800

> >> >I, too, have tried ordering the US Halcyon single from about three
> >on-line
> >> >places now, all of which say they have it, only to be dissapointed
when
> >> >they find it "out of stock." f*ckers.
> >> >
> >> have you tried cdnow or abcd?
> >> i got mine from cd now and it arrived quite rapidly.
> If anyone's still interested, I've seen a copy listed for $7 at this
online
> store:
> http://www.cdbanzai.com/
Thanx.
BTW who can point out the glaring error in the following description I
found at CDNow:

"MOBY
EVERYTHING IS WRONG (Elektra, 1995)
Moby groks rhythms and styles from trance to break beat on his first
splashy dive into the Techno deep. Hymn, Let's Go Free "

<--------------->
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From: Jon Green <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Re[3]: (orbital) Brats and Brits
Date: 30 Jan 1997 11:34:11 +0000

At 14:57 29/01/97 -0500, [e-mail] wrote:

>     C'mon Steve & Jon, surely you're not losing all your good taste on us,
>     are you?  Besides, they look bloody AWFUL in shorts - check out that
>     ad in this months "Loaded"...! ;>>>

Did you notice that one of them's head isn't on straight, (the 'less
attractive' one as voted in the official UCL poll)

>     The Spite Girls..

No bitterness then? ;-)

Jon


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 target was there pretty as a picture.
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From: Jon Green <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: EPs
Date: 30 Jan 1997 11:44:47 +0000

 fanno wrote:

>My favorite is number 3, only because of the live versions of
>Chime/Impact.  I mean impact rips to the nth degree

Absolutely agreed. TGWTSIHH, Out there somewhere? and Lush are too close to
the album versions for my liking.

and [e-mail] wrote:

>just to be awkward, my fave is number 12.
>(the vinyl version, coz it's got all the trax on it plus choice...and
>no crowd noise, so it must be the best eh?

Wish they'd put the no crowd noise versions on CD also. I might have to get
the 12"s, unless it's likely that Choice will be on the US CD, and
preferably with no crowd noise.

Jon


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 target was there pretty as a picture.
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From: [e-mail] (StarPango)
Subject: Re: EPs
Date: 30 Jan 1997 08:23:38 -0500

i would have to say that all the Axis Boston tracks are my favs......Mick
would know why :)  But i still am getting a kick out of the New York live
version of Satan----"Bring on the fuckin Bon Jovi!!"

StarPango

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re[5]: foundations
Date: 30 Jan 1997 13:42:58 -0500



Sorry Steve - didn't realise it was for the BI mag tape.  Thought it was
something new.  Twould be too much to hope that it would come out on the Irish
mag too, sob!
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Im not teasing...
Ive already mentioned that it is on FOUNDATIONS the compilation CD that is
created by THE BIG ISSUE who support homeless people. You must have missed
a message (or it never got there...story of my life!). :)))

Its out now...as well.

Cheers

Steve


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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: Bats and Bits
Date: 30 Jan 1997 13:55:12 -0500

     Aw it's all just jealousy, mate, I freely admit it. You wanted to hear
     something good said about them by a female over the age of 14 - OK
     here goes... grit the teeth... ugh...

     Well, they're pretty & bubbly and bouncy and got great bods and nice
     voices, and come up with some damn catchy tunes - I actually like
     their music

     (while all the time firmly beleiving that it's total drivel...:> )

     OK - knew I could do it!!
     They'll never be the female Orbital though (too much hair, for one
     thing!)

     Sandy!


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What is it about women and the Spice Girls?  They (that is women)
were all quite happy when Take That were winning critical acclaim
for their classic pop tunes and soulful harmonies, putting the
boot in to any man who dared to speak against out the Fab Five.
Things are very different now of course, has anyone heard ANYTHING
good said about the Spicees by a female over the age of 14?

Something is strange is going on here, whatever happened to female
solidarity? I think we should be told.





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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re[2]: impact words
Date: 30 Jan 1997 14:01:43 -0500


     >Oh, and is there anyone else out there who thinks the 2nd track on
     >The Box EP is one of Orbital's finest moments?

     Defo - those damn chairs!
     That whole CD's a masterpiece, but #2's the highlight (or lowlight,
     taking from the atmosphere in it!)
     Love it.



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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re[5]: (orbital) Brats and Brits
Date: 30 Jan 1997 14:57:24 -0500



>>     The Spite Girls..
>No bitterness then? ;-)
>Jon
     Jus' my bit o' fun!! :)

     (Hell, anyway I inherited my mother's big arse & can't do anything
     about it - I'm entitled to a bit of bitternes, heh heh) :>>>


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From: [e-mail] (Benjamin Knowles)
Subject: Re: Re:The search for Halcyon (reasonably priced)
Date: 29 Jan 1997 23:11:38 -0500

Halcyon EP:

>> If anyone's still interested, I've seen a copy listed for $7 at this
>online
>> store:
>> http://www.cdbanzai.com/

There's also one listed with another online store called CD Connection, but
I tried them and they said that it was out of stock or something (but of
course I should try again later because it may come in sometime in the next
half- century). Both CDBanzai and CD Connection work the same way - they
don't keep their own inventories, but order stuff from overseas sources.
You can try CDBanzai, but I have my doubts. But Lord knows, if they DO have
it, don't hesitate to tell us!

Sorry to burst your bubble (who knows, maybe they have it),
Ben


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From: Hans Lo <[e-mail]>
Subject: re: impact words
Date: 30 Jan 1997 13:40:46 -0500 (EST)

> Oh, and is there anyone else out there who thinks the 2nd track on The
> Box EP is one of Orbital's finest moments?

Hell yeah. I believe that is up there on my all time favorite Orbital
track. That and Lush.


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From: Matt Gundlach <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: impact words
Date: 30 Jan 1997 11:34:22 +0000

u04ncc wrote:

> ..."the earth is burning" can be heard, though it does sound more like a few moans...
... That's on the UK one anyway, I've no idea about the US one.

I have the US one and I at least sounds a little bit like "the earth is
burning"

> Oh, and is there anyone else out there who thinks the 2nd track on The
> Box EP is one of Orbital's finest moments?

Me! Me!

The Other Matt
[e-mail]

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From: Shaun Rader <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: "The Saint" -Reply
Date: 30 Jan 1997 12:01:52 -0800

Aimee Merritt[SMTP:[e-mail]] wrote:
> They're not doing the ENTIRE soundtrack-- they are just contributing a
> song. The press release doesn't even really say whether it is a new
> track. FSOL is also contributing.

Ohh, it makes more sense now.  Why would this news
make it to Cybersleaze and such?  I just assumed it
was big news.  How disappointing.  I thought they finally
got to do what they wanted.

Shaun
--
. .  .   .    .     .      .       .      .     .    .   .  .


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From: Shaun Rader <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: impact words
Date: 30 Jan 1997 12:13:08 -0800

Hans Lo[SMTP:[e-mail]] wrote:
> > Oh, and is there anyone else out there who thinks the 2nd track on The
> > Box EP is one of Orbital's finest moments?
>
> Hell yeah. I believe that is up there on my all time favorite Orbital
> track. That and Lush.

Yeah, that and the transition from track 7 to 8 on Out
There Somewhere?  It makes me tingle inside when it
actually changes to track 8 (uneasy, chaotic beat taking
you right onto another planet...)

Shaun
--
. .  .   .    .     .      .       .      .     .    .   .  .


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From: Ernesto Perez <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Omen and Chime 12"
Date: 30 Jan 1997 18:26:39 -0600

[e-mail] wrote:
>
> If anyone out there is interested in the following 12" singles, e-mail me
> privately with bids.
>
> - "Chime/Deeper" on Oh-zone Records. Zone 001.White card sleeve.
>




VERY INTERESTED!!!!

dj ernie

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From: Ernesto Perez <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Chime Remix..?
Date: 30 Jan 1997 18:29:31 -0600

Benjamin Knowles wrote:
>
> >Which Chime remix has the sample, "Got to keep the fire
> >burning"?
> >--
>
> i know the Ray Keith Mutation on "Only for the Headstrong" does. I don't
> have the Mutations EP, cuz i'm American, god-dammit, and we don't get shit
> here.
>
wrongo, buddy. my first orbital 12" was mutations and i live here in the
states. so there.

dj ernie

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From: Chris Herz <[e-mail]>
Subject: re:spice girlies.... (non-orbital, but steve related...)
Date: 30 Jan 1997 22:35:56 -0700

*non-orbital*

>I love the Spice Girls (Yum Yum!)

enh?!?!?!?!  eck!!!!  whats all this?!  steve, im shocked!!!  sorry, but
they annoy the hell out of me....  it's that vid. w/ all of them bouncing
around like freaks saying "friends oo laa oo laa..." then they try to do
some skaish shout thingy...  blechk!  ugh! im trashing my hero steve LOOPZ
price... im so ashamed!

>Steve OUT OF HIS MIND Price
sorry man, could resist! B^)



        -Chris Herz

[e-mail]

http://www.interwerks.com        http://www.chs.lane.edu/~chrish



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From: Aaron Brown <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Bats and Bits
Date: 31 Jan 1997 10:55:57 +0000

WOAH THERE.  Nice voices????  THEY write catchy tunes????
NO NO NO NO NO NO NO!!!!
My flat-mate is a sound engineer and worked on pre-production stuff
before they became big and he says that they had to pitch correct
EVERYTHING.  He reckons he's never heard such bad voices in all his life
and that it was one of his funniest sessions ever.  As for writing their
own tunes, they never have.  Their producers write everything and
they're still being chased by early producers and arrangers for money.

Ez

ps. agree about the bods though....

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From: ed naylor <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Bats and Bits
Date: 31 Jan 1997 11:24:41 -0500 (EST)

> My flat-mate is a sound engineer and worked on pre-production stuff
> before they became big and he says that they had to pitch correct
> EVERYTHING.  He reckons he's never heard such bad voices in all his life
> and that it was one of his funniest sessions ever.  As for writing their
> own tunes, they never have.  Their producers write everything and
> they're still being chased by early producers and arrangers for money.

Sorry to prolong this almost comically non-O thread, but my point
wasn't that the Spice Girls are particularly talented, but simply
that the amount of vitriol that has been poured upon their
carefully-sculpted heads, especially by women of my acquaintance,
bears no relation to the scorn that other, male versions such as
Take That have received.  As far as not writing their own songs or
singing out of key is concerned, as Oscar Wilde might have said,
SO FUCKING WHAT.

> ps. agree about the bods though....

Sexist pig  :-)





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From: "R.Hardacre" <[e-mail]>
Subject: AGGHHH
Date: 31 Jan 1997 14:01:07 +0000 (GMT)

theres this bloke next door who's gone away for a week, but he's still left
his alarm, set for 7:30 am!!!
the reason i know this is that his alarm is hooked up to his stereo
and plays the spice girls album VERY LOUD.
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!
help me please


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From: Joona =?iso-8859-1?Q?P=94yh=94nen?=  <[e-mail]>
Subject: re:spice girlies.... (non-orbital, but steve related...)
Date: 31 Jan 1997 16:48:44 +0200 (EET)

At 22.35 30.1.1997 -0700, you wrote:
>*non-orbital*
>
>>I love the Spice Girls (Yum Yum!)
>
>enh?!?!?!?!  eck!!!!  whats all this?!  steve, im shocked!!!  sorry, but
>they annoy the hell out of me....  it's that vid. w/ all of them bouncing
>around like freaks saying "friends oo laa oo laa..." then they try to do
>some skaish shout thingy...  blechk!  ugh! im trashing my hero steve LOOPZ
>price... im so ashamed!

have you seen the musicvideo 2 become 1?
Kind of reminds me of The Box
joona p=F6yh=F6nen
[e-mail]
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From: Joona =?iso-8859-1?Q?P=94yh=94nen?=  <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: "The Saint" -Reply
Date: 31 Jan 1997 16:51:04 +0200 (EET)

At 12.01 30.1.1997 -0800, you wrote:
>Aimee Merritt[SMTP:[e-mail]] wrote:
>> They're not doing the ENTIRE soundtrack-- they are just contributing a
>> song. The press release doesn't even really say whether it is a new
>> track. FSOL is also contributing.

What is FSOL doing for the movie?
joona p=F6yh=F6nen
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From: BURENAYL <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: re:spice girlies (definitely the last word from me)
Date: 31 Jan 1997 15:08:19 -0500 (EST)


> have you seen the musicvideo 2 become 1?
> Kind of reminds me of The Box
> -------------------------------------------------

Respect to the Finnish posse, I knew there was someone
out there who could come up with a link.  Now I don't
feel so bad about using up all this bandwidth for the
last few days.



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From: "Anthony Agee" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Ummm....
Date: 31 Jan 1997 09:57:10 -0600

Aren't the Spice Girls those porno chicks on the Spice network or Spice
Channel or whatever it's called?  Surely THOSE aren't the same girls you
guys are talking about.


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From: "Christian, Barry" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Slime Grills
Date: 31 Jan 1997 16:23:00 GMT


The Slime Girls vid. is like the Box but done cheaply by
superimposing them on a speeded up background.
The Box on the other hand was done by Tilda Swinton
spending hours moving very slowly in the "environment"
of the film before speeding the whole thing up.
Personally I can't stand the S.G's---so hyped up and
ego tripping---they actually make me feel ill.
I was surprised that Steve digs them---surely not for
the music though !
One thing in his favour---he was brave enough to admit it.
I think we should drop the whole subject and keep this
forum for Orbital only now.  I just thought I would back up
some of the female member's comments to prove that
males can also dislike such trash.
Somebody said that the S.G's had bouncy tunes.
I prefer something such as the following for bounce:-

Satan---Orbital
and
Toxygene---Orb.

There,I've finished now.
         Barry.

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From: Daniel Kasaj <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: spice girlies.... (non-orbital, but steve related...)
Date: 31 Jan 1997 19:00:33 +0100 (MET)


>
>have you seen the musicvideo 2 become 1?
>Kind of reminds me of The Box
>-------------------------------------------------
Me too. Only I think this is a different shooting technique.
Anyway, the video before this one, in which they're some kind of heroines or
something, had the original story at least.

And by the way, why are some of you so "jumpy" about Steeve's words ? You
know, there are things on this planet you could just LIKE - not love or not
get possesed by - but just LIKE.

and while I'm still here... those two shallow sounds at the beginning of
Impact LIVE...right before the first "siren" goes off...their volume is a
bit lower than the "siren" (- yep, that's what I call em)... were they some
kind of a keyboard test or what? They just don't fit in...they just don't.
--

   Daniel Kasaj - [e-mail]    URL: http://fly.cc.fer.hr/~leqash
  Home : Borovje 8, Zagreb, CROATIA                    phone - [phone]

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From: Hans Lo <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re:The search for Halcyon (reasonably priced)
Date: 31 Jan 1997 13:49:04 -0500 (EST)

> If anyone's still interested, I've seen a copy listed for $7 at this online
> store:
> http://www.cdbanzai.com/

I ordered Halcyon from HMV and it's going to cost me $10 Canadian dollars.
Consider it if it's a cheaper and an easeir alternative.


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From: [e-mail] (Sean Strout)
Subject: Re:The search for Halcyon (reasonably priced)
Date: 31 Jan 1997 10:50:58 PST

ok i'll bite.  can anyone describe the difference between the original
halcyon (never heard it) and the on+on version on 2?

gracias,
-s.

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From: "R.Hardacre" <[e-mail]>
Subject: and on and on
Date: 31 Jan 1997 19:16:22 +0000 (GMT)

the first ones houseier, well kinda

my mate got the origional for 50p in the bargain bin
at wollies!!


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From: Shaun Rader <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: The search for Halcyon (reasonably priced)
Date: 31 Jan 1997 12:14:38 -0800

Sean Strout[SMTP:[e-mail]] wrote:

> ok i'll bite.  can anyone describe the difference between the original
> halcyon (never heard it) and the on+on version on 2?

There are several differences that I can't really explain,
but I'll give a few that I can.

The vocal "la, lalalalala.." starts out this track whereas
the version on Orbital 2 starts with the ambient intro.  The
original version seems to have several more parts to it
that weren't included in the On + On version for some
reason.

I think if they added the intro from the On + On version to
the original, it would be the perfect mutation...

About the video, does anyone know if the video came
out after the original Halcyon came out or after Orbital 2
came out?  The version in the video sounds like an edit
of the original, so I guess I might have answered my own
question.

--
. .  .   .    .     .      .       .      .     .    .   .  .


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From: [e-mail]
Subject: ATTN: Steve
Date: 31 Jan 1997 13:33:54 -0500 (EST)

Hey man!! How can I get a copy of LOOPZ...
I am in the US but what can I do??

jamie


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From: "Seamus (James) Swift" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Can we hear ?
Date: 30 Jan 1997 11:15:54 -0000

Is it just me or does it sound like Rolf Harris talking in Are We Here ?

And in "I wish I had Duck Feet", Is the man talking a sample from the
documentary about the "last american freak show" that was shown on BBC 2 a
few years ago ?

::  \   Seamus (James) Swift
     |    a.k.a.  "whois"
::  /   If a Stealth bomber crashes into a forest, does it make a sound?

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From: "Seamus (James) Swift" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: re:Re[3]: (orbital) Brats and Brits
Date: 30 Jan 1997 11:11:21 -0000

: >  C'mon Steve & Jon, surely you're not losing all your good taste on
: >  us, are you?  Besides, they look bloody AWFUL in shorts - check out
: >  that ad in this months "Loaded"...! ;>>>
:
: Aha....but this is coming from a women....!!!!!!
: Its about time that us lads had a bit of totty to view on the
: commercialised television. I mean Boyzone, Take That, etc you lot had
: loads....
:
: We need more all women groups that sound terrible but look good. Kill
: Mariah (dog - oops!) , Belinda (fat smack!) and that bloody Cher!
:
: Bring on some spice....
:

If thats the quality of "totty" we are getting in the music world, I'll
cry. We need , no we *DEMAND* good totty bands !

e.g. that girl in Red Dwarf last friday who played the Queen, she'd be an
fine Spice Girl. The current ones just don't cut it !


:)




::  \   Seamus (James) Swift
     |    a.k.a.  "whois"
::  /   If a Stealth bomber crashes into a forest, does it make a sound?

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From: "R.Hardacre" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RH
Date: 31 Jan 1997 21:39:28 +0000 (GMT)

i thought it was rolf harris too, maybe they'll launch
a tie mi kangeroo down/are we here mix,

probably not actually.

i totally agree that we NEED good totty bands, how about
a female type prodigy thing, no that'd just be scary wouldn't it!

wouldn't it?
hmmm



COIL

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From: Matt Gundlach <[e-mail]>
Subject: Sniv or green?
Date: 08 Jan 1997 12:36:55 +0000

I have In Sides and the Brown Album (which is the bulk of my
techno/trance/ ambient/whatever collection). Now I need to know which of
the remaining Orbital albums should I get next?

The Other Matt

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From: "Anthony Agee" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) Just some info for you all
Date: 10 Jan 1997 02:06:06 -0600

Tricky plays a small role in the movie "The Fifth Element".  The movie is
absolute crap though.

This Thursday Orbital, Fluke, and some others will be on MTV's AMP "Chat"
around 8, E.S.T. so we can interact with them.  Kinda sucks that I'm going
to have to wait in line behind a bunch of MTV-asses to ask the brothers
some questions.

My question :"What would you recommend a beginner buy as his/her first
purchase: a sampler, a drum machine, or what?". I'd love to hear what
Paul/Phil would have to say.

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From: "Anthony Agee" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) The Brothers
Date: 16 Jan 1997 16:55:33 -0600

Orbital were my first techno group that I listened to...and afterwards,
after I've bought several CDs of other artists in the genre, I would say
that they are, without doubt, the best.  I mean, only AFX and Autechre even
come close.  These guys are musicians, not technicians like the majority of
others.


Oh well.....this note was inspired by "In Sides" which I'm listening to
now.

Please forgive me. : )

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From: "Anthony Agee" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) Other music (non-orbital)
Date: 16 Jan 1997 16:52:01 -0600

Just wanted to throw out some new music I've bought.

1) Josh Wink's "Left Above The Clouds".  This CD is really amateur stuff at
best.  Josh Wink, superstar DJ or not, his music seems to be nothing more
than old house beats with a 303 (what would Josh Wink do without a
TB-303??) that he knob-twiddles throughout the songs...actually, on each
song.  Without the immortal "Higher State of Consciousness" on it, I would
consider this CD a total wash.  Grade (1-10): 4.

2) another compilation, it's called Plastic Compilation or something like
that.  It's the first in a series.  I ran into this CD on accident since
it's being heavily promoted in record stores around where I live.  It's
quite good.  There are two Sarah McLaughlin (sorry for misspelling) remixes
on the CD, one which is done by Rabbit in the Moon and is excellent.  The
CD begins with Underworld's "Pearl's Girl", one of the classic Underworld
songs..and since I don't have any Underworld CDs, this is a bonus.  Meat
Beat Manifesto's "She's Unreal" is a great track as well.  Chemical Bro's
"Loops of Fury" (I most own this song on four different CDs) is good for
people who don't have it elsewhere in their collection.  Another really
cool track by an artist named "Sully" (or at least I think that's
it)...this one you gotta hear.  it's very odd. Grade: 7



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From: "Anthony Agee" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) The Brothers
Date: 16 Jan 1997 16:55:33 -0600

Orbital were my first techno group that I listened to...and afterwards,
after I've bought several CDs of other artists in the genre, I would say
that they are, without doubt, the best.  I mean, only AFX and Autechre even
come close.  These guys are musicians, not technicians like the majority of
others.


Oh well.....this note was inspired by "In Sides" which I'm listening to
now.

Please forgive me. : )

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From: "Anthony Agee" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) Other music (non-orbital)
Date: 16 Jan 1997 16:52:01 -0600

Just wanted to throw out some new music I've bought.

1) Josh Wink's "Left Above The Clouds".  This CD is really amateur stuff at
best.  Josh Wink, superstar DJ or not, his music seems to be nothing more
than old house beats with a 303 (what would Josh Wink do without a
TB-303??) that he knob-twiddles throughout the songs...actually, on each
song.  Without the immortal "Higher State of Consciousness" on it, I would
consider this CD a total wash.  Grade (1-10): 4.

2) another compilation, it's called Plastic Compilation or something like
that.  It's the first in a series.  I ran into this CD on accident since
it's being heavily promoted in record stores around where I live.  It's
quite good.  There are two Sarah McLaughlin (sorry for misspelling) remixes
on the CD, one which is done by Rabbit in the Moon and is excellent.  The
CD begins with Underworld's "Pearl's Girl", one of the classic Underworld
songs..and since I don't have any Underworld CDs, this is a bonus.  Meat
Beat Manifesto's "She's Unreal" is a great track as well.  Chemical Bro's
"Loops of Fury" (I most own this song on four different CDs) is good for
people who don't have it elsewhere in their collection.  Another really
cool track by an artist named "Sully" (or at least I think that's
it)...this one you gotta hear.  it's very odd. Grade: 7



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From: "Anthony Agee" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) The "new" In Sides vs. the original
Date: 18 Jan 1997 17:20:46 -0600

No offense to anyone, but I'd *much* rather have the Times Fly EP and Box
EP than The Saint/Sinner and Halycon Live.....but that's just me.


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From: "Anthony Agee" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) Orbital constructing music
Date: 20 Jan 1997 15:32:37 -0600

I just can't imagine Orbital making their music from the drum machine up.
Some of their stuff is so complex....it's hard to see them coming up with
Out There Somewhere over a beat. It's so melodic. Shows how much i know
about music. (very little)



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From: "Anthony Agee" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) Aphex Twin stuff
Date: 23 Jan 1997 16:00:14 -0600

If you want his best, buy Selected Ambient Works 2. It is purely ambient,
the majority of the songs don't even have any percussion, but they are
beautiful. Blows away anything else he has done.

Also, Analogue Bubblebath by AFX is a good find. It's all over the place.


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