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- [This is Part 2 of the misc.education.medical FAQ.]
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- ------------------------------
-
- Subject: 4. The Interview Process
-
- 4.1) How can I prepare for my interview?
-
- You should do research on the school itself. Learn a little about
- the city it is in, the programs offered, grading policies, and
- instruction method (Problem Based Learning or traditional or mixed).
- Look at the school's information packet and their web site. If
- you're interested in doing research in a particular field during
- medical school, find out which faculty at the school are doing
- research in that area. The more you read about the school, the more
- questions you will have to ask your interviewer.
-
- In preparing for the questions you will be asked (cf 4.4),
- definitely consult the Medical School Interview Feedback Page begun
- by Graham Redgrave: <http://www.interviewfeedback.com>.
-
- 4.2) What should I wear to the interview?
-
- Dress professionally in your style. This simply means to dress like
- you would if you were a doctor, but do not lose all of your
- personality (i.e. if you are a guy with long hair, don't cut it; if
- you normally have a mustache, leave it...you are not trying to
- produce a standard image, you want to be yourself).
-
- 4.3) Should I bring anything to the interview?
-
- Bring a list of any questions you wish to ask (you will probably
- forget most of them if you try to memorize them). Always have a pen
- and paper on you. Find out what the weather will be like and bring
- a coat if necessary. Bring your application to look over between
- interviews.
-
- 4.4) What will I be asked?
-
- This is largely dependent on the school and on the interviewer (in
- other words, on chance). Be prepared to answer questions about
- "defining" moments in your life--elaborating on what you do for fun,
- what your favorite activity is, what sports you play, and just about
- anything that interests you.
-
- Some schools still drill you though, so beware (these interviews can
- truly be draining). Stress interviews (empty rooms with phones
- ringing, being asked to open windows that are nailed shut) are very
- rare. If you've done research, and it's on your application, be
- prepared to discuss it.
-
- Many students have recorded their interview experiences at the
- Medical School Interview Feedback Page:
- <http://www.interviewfeedback.com>.
-
- Some commonly asked questions:
-
- The favorite--Tell me about yourself.
- Where do you see yourself in 10 years? (often asked)
- What does your family think about this?
- What is the biggest problem facing medicine today?
- What are the disadvantages/downsides of a career in medicine, besides
- no time?
- What are you looking for in a medical school?
- What do you think about "insert current hot topic here"?
- (HMO, PPO, Doctor-assisted suicide, ethical/moral issues of cloning,
- other financial issues in health care delivery)
- What field of medicine are you interested in?
- What do you like to do that isn't science related?
- What will you do if you do not get accepted somewhere this year?
- What are your strengths/weaknesses?
- And, perhaps the most popular...
-
- 4.5) "Why do you want to be a doctor?"
-
- If you want to say "to help people," please just make that an
- introduction to a much deeper soliloquy! You can tie this answer to
- personal experiences (i.e. things you may have seen while
- working/volunteering in the medical field, or possibly an illness
- that you or a family member went through).
-
- The key is to come across as someone who has genuinely thought
- through the decision.
-
- 4.6) What questions should I ask?
-
- Ask anything you want about the school. Many times faculty or
- students may not know the answer, but will be willing to find out
- and get back to you. A good source of questions to ask is the
- Association of American Medical Colleges' pamphlet "31 Questions I
- Wish I Had Asked," available at
- <http://www.aamc.org/students/applying/about/31questions.htm>.
-
- 4.7) Should I do anything after the interview?
-
- Sending a thank you note is purely optional, and some consider it an
- outdated practice. Others feel that acknowledging time spent on
- your behalf is just common courtesy. One suggestion is to follow up
- with the admissions office, expressing your interest in the school.
-
- 4.8) What does "waitlisted" mean? What does "hold" mean?
-
- The terms "wait list," "acceptance range," "hold," and any others
- synonymous with these all mean that the class was full, but you have
- been placed on a ranked list. If spots open up, people on the wait
- list will be moved up and offered seats in the class. In general a
- school will accept twice as many people as its class size when all
- is said and done. Also, even though waitlists ARE ranked, they do
- not have to pull from them in order, so if something about you
- really stands out (such as a follow up letter stating how impressed
- you were with the school and how much you would like to become part
- of their institution), you can increase your chances of getting in
- off the wait list.
-
- 4.9) What if I don't get accepted?
-
- Try again. Trying 2 times seems to be the norm these days but after
- 3 times you might want to consider doing something else (there have
- been some people who have finally been accepted after applying 4+
- times, but they are the exception rather than the norm). The most
- important thing to do is to consult each school as to why you were
- rejected or not taken off of the waitlist and ask what you can do to
- improve your chances. Follow their advice.
-
- 4.10) How should I choose what school to go to?
-
- This depends on several factors. Important ones include location
- and what the school "typically" produces. In other words, if you
- want to specialize, it may not be in your best interest to go to a
- state school where most of the class goes into family practice.
- Financial issues are also a factor, as state-funded schools are
- often much less expensive than private schools.
-
- Going to a school with an established reputation may be of benefit,
- especially when applying for residencies, fellowships, and positions
- in academic medicine. If you feel that you may end up in an
- academic position, or are considering a very competitive specialty,
- you may consider going to a "name" school.
-
- If you narrow it down to two schools which are virtually identical,
- go to the one that feels right--that might be your best choice. How
- do the students at the school feel? Are they treated well?
-
- 4.11) What should I do during the summer before medical school?
-
- Nothing at all. Take a deep breath.
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Subject: 5. Medical School Curricula
-
- 5.1) How long is medical school?
-
- In the United States, medical school is generally four years in
- length. You spend the first two years predominantly in the
- classroom and lab, and the last two years predominantly in the
- hospital.
-
- 5.2) What classes are there in medical school?
-
- The classes in medical school vary from place to place. But there
- are some that everyone takes in their first two years, no matter
- where they are:
-
- Gross Anatomy
- Biochemistry
- Pathology
- Behavioral Science
- Pharmacology
- Physiology
- Microanatomy/Histology
- Microbiology
- Physical Diagnosis (or some kind of intro to the patient class)
- Medical Ethics
-
- The amount of lab work varies from class to class and school to
- school, although some classes (like gross anatomy) feature as much
- lab work as you have time for.
-
- 5.3) How are students graded/evaluated in medical school?
-
- Again, depends on the school. Many schools still have the standard
- A/B/C/D/F scale of grading. The rest go on the pass/fail scale or
- some variation of it. Many schools have an "honors" grade which
- reflects performance in an upper percentile of the class for that
- course.
-
- The grading scale can change as you advance in your studies. For
- example, some schools have letter grades the first two years and
- then pass/fail grades the last two (or letter grades the first three
- and pass/fail the last year only).
-
- The grades themselves are objective the first two years - based
- almost entirely on written exams, oral exams, and practical (or lab)
- exams. In the third and fourth years, grades depend in large part
- on evaluations by other members of your hospital team - the
- attending physician(s), the resident(s) and/or the intern(s). There
- are also written/oral exams in the last two years, and the relative
- importance of exams vs. evaluations varies greatly from rotation to
- rotation.
-
- 5.4) What are "rotations"?
-
- Rotations are the blocks of time you spend on the different services
- in the hospital. Most schools have a set of required rotations and
- let you choose from a vast field of elective rotations to fill out
- the rest of your third and/or fourth year. The required rotations
- everywhere:
-
- Surgery
- Internal Medicine
- Psychiatry
- Pediatrics
- Obstetrics and Gynecology (Ob/Gyn)
-
- Generally you will spend a total of about 10 months doing these five
- rotations. Some schools make you take all required rotations in the
- third year, and some let you spread them out so that you can take
- electives in the third year, thereby allowing you to take some
- electives that may help you narrow down your possible choice of
- specialty for residency.
-
- There are some rotations that are required at all but a few schools:
-
- Family medicine
- Neurology
- Orthopedics
-
- A typical third year might look something like this:
-
- Surgery - 2 months
- Pediatrics - 2 months
- Neurology - 1 month
- Family Medicine - 1 month
- Ob/Gyn - 6 weeks
- Psychiatry - 6 weeks
- Internal Medicine - 3 months
-
- As far as electives go, generally there are several ways you can go.
- You can take "away" rotations - rotations arranged to spend at other
- hospitals (ideally the hospitals where you think you might like to
- do your residency). Generally, schools will let you do a month or
- two away. When considering away rotations, keep the following
- tidbits in mind:
-
- 1) Most residency applications are due by October or November, and
- most residency committees start making decisions on who to interview
- by the end of November at the very latest. Therefore, for an away
- rotation to really help you sway the people at the hospital you
- visit, it must be done in the first few months of the fourth year
- (keeping in mind that USMLE Step II is usually at the end of August
- of that year). September and to a lesser extent October tend to be
- the most popular months to schedule away rotations.
-
- 2) At most schools, there are a lot of hoops to jump through to get
- an away rotation approved. You have to determine that the hospital
- you want to go to actually has an open slot in the rotation you want
- during the month you want to be there. Once you've gotten that
- info, there are lots of forms and signatures needed--deans and
- chairmen from both schools, grading papers, course content papers,
- etc. The point of all this is: once you decide to take an away
- rotation, get started on planning it because it takes a month or two
- to get everything straightened out.
-
- The electives you do at your home school tend to fall in these
- categories:
-
- 1) Electives in what you think will be your residency specialty
- 2) Electives in things you think will help you in residency (a lot of
- people take things like cardiology, radiology or emergency medicine
- because they provide valuable training for the intern year)
- 3) Electives in things that interest you
- 4) Electives your friends are taking
- 5) Electives that are easy (generally includes things like
- ophthalmology, dermatology, and lots of odd little electives that
- will turn up on the list at your school; at my school we could do a
- month sitting in the blood bank drawing blood from people, or do a
- month learning what the different lab tests are and what they mean)
-
- 5.5) What are the "must have" textbooks?
-
- The only absolutely essential, "must have" textbook is the "Atlas of
- Human Anatomy," by Frank H. Netter, M.D. (now in its 2nd edition).
- Beyond that, your textbook purchases should reflect:
-
- a) the recommended texts of your school - not all texts cover the
- same subjects to the same depth, and you might miss out on a
- professor's pet area that he loves to test heavily because it's so
- insignificant that a different book barely touches on it (thus a
- gentle reminder to try to learn what your professors consider
- themselves to be experts in, because those things will always be on
- the tests). Also, remember that your required texts will all be on
- reserve in the library (usually in multiple copies) - so if you
- really feel you need to read one chapter, you can always just borrow
- the library copy and read it.
-
- b) the course materials given out in each class - some classes
- feature thick, comprehensive syllabi that cover each lecture
- specifically and that make the purchase of an outside textbook
- pointless. And some schools have note-taking services that "can"
- lectures - basically giving you a typed transcription of the entire
- lecture, complete with copies of overhead materials. As with the
- syllabi, a good set of cans renders a textbook moot. Not all
- schools allow the canning of lectures, but if they are offered you
- should absolutely sign up and get them.
-
- c) your personal study preferences - how do you study best? Some
- people love to read the texts. Some people like lectures and don't
- read much at all. Determine where you fall in the scheme of things
- and plan your purchases accordingly. Even if a text is great
- (example - the Robbins pathology text), generally the book will be
- dry reading and very long, and if you are not the kind of person who
- learns well from books like that, then your money is better spent
- elsewhere.
-
- 5.6) What is PBL?
-
- PBL stands for "Problem Based Learning." Basically, there are two
- basic types of curricula in medical schools today: PBL and so-called
- "traditional" learning. Traditional learning is the basic stuff you
- had in college--lectures and plenty of 'em, labs, classes taught as
- discrete entities (gross anatomy, pathology, pharmacology, etc.).
- PBL represents a more integrated way of presenting the materials.
- Lectures are kept to a minimum; instead, the emphasis is on small
- group learning, teamwork and problem solving. Groups meet and are
- given clinical situations in keeping with the current subject
- material. These situations can involve anatomy, pathology,
- pharmacology, etc. all at the same time. The group then solves the
- problems using available resources (library, computers, etc.) and
- discusses their solutions. In this way they learn the body as it
- is--a set of interrelated systems--instead of in discrete chunks.
-
- That said, PBL is not for everyone. Some people prefer the
- lectures. Some schools offer only PBL, some only traditional, and
- some give you an option of which you would prefer. Contact the
- schools you are interested in and ask them about their curricula.
-
- 5.7) Is there any free time in medical school?
-
- There is as much free time as you want there to be. In spite of
- what you might hear, medical students don't study ten hours a night
- AND go to every lecture AND go to every lab AND read journals just
- for interest AND work on a cure for cancer. At the beginning, sure,
- you'll feel this overwhelming fear that everyone is ahead of you and
- you will make the lowest grade and somehow people will find out and
- point and laugh at you. So you'll study like crazy right up until
- that first gross anatomy test that you'll take on no sleep in some
- caffeine-induced trance. After that, though, you'll learn what your
- best study methods are and how best for you to use your time. After
- that, you'll discover that there is plenty of free time to have a
- family life, have friends, go to parties, form a bowling team in
- your second year and win the league championship after defeating the
- five-time defending champions in the playoffs (which a group of
- students from my school - myself included - did).
-
- In the clinical years, your free time depends on your rotation.
- Surgery tends to lend itself to hospital work and sleep only.
- Psychiatry tends to give you more free time than you could possibly
- fill. The others fall someplace in the middle.
-
- 5.8) What is the USMLE?
-
- In spite of its resemblance to the words "U SMILE," it's not a happy
- thing. USMLE stands for United States Medical Licensing
- Examination, and the website may be found at <http://www.usmle.org>.
- There are three parts to it (the first two parts consisting of a
- one-day, eight-hour exam and the third part consisting of a two-day
- exam), and in virtually every state you must pass the parts in order
- to get licensed. The examination is now offered on computer at
- testing centers, and may be taken whenever the student wishes. See
- the USMLE web site for more information.
-
- The parts are:
-
- Step I, taken after your second year
- Step II, taken in your fourth year
- Step III, taken at the end of your internship year
-
- 5.9) What is a good USMLE score?
-
- A good score is one that is (a) passing and (b) passing, a fact that
- the USMLE apparently realized because rumor has it they are going to
- make the exams pass/fail in the near future. For now, keep in mind
- that the national average (which has been rising, probably through
- artificial means) has been around 215 in 1997-98. The cut-off for a
- "good" score once was 200 (when 200 was set as the statistical mean,
- or 50th percentile score). Now, though, "good" scores start around
- 215 and go up from there. And yes, it is sad but true that some
- residency programs use USMLE Step I scores as a preliminary cut-off
- point for sending out secondary applications and/or interview
- requests. Generally the programs that do this tend to be the more
- competitive ones - surgery, orthopedics, ENT, neurosurgery, etc.
-
- 5.10) What is AOA?
-
- Alpha Omega Alpha, or "AOA," is a national medical honor society that
- was founded in 1902 to promote and recognize excellence in the medical
- profession. Most, although not all medical schools have a chapter of
- AOA. Each school's chapter selects a small group of students to join
- the society, generally in their junior or senior years. "Junior AOA
- status," or being selected as a junior, is considered superior to
- "senior AOA status."
-
- In order to meet the minimum requirements of the national society,
- students must be in the top 15% of their class academically, and
- possess leadership and community service attributes. Academic
- activities such as research, performance in clerkships and electives
- and extracurricular program participation are generally included in
- the selection criteria.
-
- Individual chapters may also elect to induct outstanding alumni,
- faculty and house staff to AOA. Induction ceremonies are generally
- held just before graduation and are highly specific to the
- individual chapters.
-
- Having AOA on your curriculum vitae is considered an asset when applying
- in the very competitive post-graduate programs such as dermatology and
- surgical subspecialties.
-
- [Maintainer's note: Stanford, the University of Connecticut, and
- Harvard are the schools that do not have AOA. If you are aware of
- other schools that do not have a chapter, please let me know.]
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Subject: 6. Paying for Medical School
-
- 6.1) How expensive is medical school?
-
- Very. According to the AAMC's Medical School Admissions
- Requirements, the range of tuition and student fees for 1996-1997
- first-year students was:
-
- Range Median Mean
- Private, Resident: 8,152-31,925 24,925 23,835
- Private, Nonresident: 16,403-31,925 25,224 25,407
- Public, Resident: 2,908-20,129 9,107 9,921
- Public, Nonresident: 10,680-51,669 21,129 22,153
-
- Keep in mind that these figures represent only tuition and
- fees. Other expenses include room and board, books, equipment,
- transportation, insurance, and personal expenses. In all, these
- additional expenses can easily be up to $15,000 per year.
-
- 6.2) How can I pay for medical school?
-
- The first consideration is to reduce your expenses. The less
- expensive schools tend to be public schools within your state. If
- you don't have a medical school in your state, you may be eligible
- to attend other state schools as an in-state resident through an
- exchange program such as WICHE, the Western Interstate Commission
- for Higher Education, which allows students from Alaska, Montana,
- and Wyoming to apply to and attend any western medical school as a
- state resident (with the exception of the University of Washington).
- Another major expense that can be reduced, if you qualify, is the
- cost of application. Be sure to apply for an AMCAS fee waiver (if
- you qualify), which can save you hundreds of dollars.
-
- Unfortunately, reducing expenses still leaves, in most cases, tens
- of thousands of dollars to pay. The most common way to pay this is
- via loans, particularly federal Stafford loans and private
- alternative loan programs. While some Stafford loans may be
- subsidized (the government will pay the interest while you are in
- school), there is a limit to the amount you can borrow. Other loan
- programs are often offered by the various schools.
-
- Grant aid (aid you don't have to repay) is not common. Most schools
- offer a minimal amount of merit- and/or need-based grant aid. There
- are also two programs that will cover the entire cost of school plus
- give you a stipend. The first, the Medical Scientist Training
- Program, is a highly competitive government-subsidized program
- designed to recruit students interested in earning both an M.D. and
- a Ph.D. The second, the Uniformed Services University of the Health
- Sciences, is the military's medical school. In return for years of
- service to the military, your education is paid for in addition to
- your receiving a commission in the military and the concomitant
- salary and benefits.
-
- Another possibility for covering your expenses is to obligate
- yourself to later service. Two examples of this type of program are
- the Armed Forces HPSP and the Public Health Service program, both of
- which provide payment for medical school in return for a commitment
- to serve in either the military or in underserved public health
- regions, respectively.
-
- Finally, be sure to search the Web and other sources for private
- scholarship sources. You may be eligible for free money or favorable
- loans due to your extracurricular activities, ethnicity, religion,
- heritage, or any number of other factors. Your school's financial aid
- office will be happy to suggest sources to you as well as discuss means
- of payment.
-
- 6.3) Can you tell me about Armed Forces scholarships?
-
- The Armed Forces Health Professions Scholarship Program (HPSP) is a
- scholarship between two to four years in length offered to students
- in schools of medicine, osteopathic medicine, dentistry, and
- optometry. HPSP students receive full tuition, school-related
- expenses, and a stipend as benefits. The stipend is currently (as
- of 8/98) around $912/month, paid in two parts on the 1st and 15th
- days on each month by direct deposit. Expenses are reimbursed by
- the submission on an itemized form with receipts and a signed
- approval letter from your school stating that the expenses you claim
- are reasonable ones for your curriculum; typically, most texts and
- equipment (i.e., stethoscopes, lab coats) are paid without any fuss.
- Tuition is paid directly to your school.
-
- Basic requirements for the HPSP are that you are a U.S. citizen and
- meet the qualifications for commissioning as a military officer.
- There is an application and interview process which takes place at
- about the same time as med school apps. (Of course, you do have to
- actually get into med school in order to receive it.) The HPSP is
- offered through the Navy, Army, and Air Force (the Marine Corps is
- part of the Department of the Navy and is served by Naval docs, and
- the Coast Guard is staffed by docs from the Public Health Service).
-
- In return, you owe as many years of service to the military as you
- received in support. Residency does not count towards this payback
- time. What you actually wind up doing, of course, varies according
- to your specialty; there isn't a huge need for pediatric
- neurosurgery about the average aircraft carrier, for example.
-
- What are the advantages to this little Faustian bargain? Well, for
- starters, there are the financial benefits. The more frugal
- students will emerge from med school debt-free, and those who live a
- little higher on the hog will owe relatively small student loans.
- Salary during residency is about $10,000/yr greater in the military
- (in the neighborhood of $40,000 for interns, $50,000 for more senior
- residents). Even post-residency, you won't starve; average
- attending salaries vary by specialty, rank, and years of service,
- but most wind up in the neighborhood of $100,000/yr as junior
- attendings (typically O-4 in rank: a lieutenant commander in the
- Navy, a major in the other two). You are automatically commissioned
- as an O-1 while a med student (ensign in the Navy, 2nd lieutenant in
- the other two) and are promoted to O-3 on graduation
- (lieutenant/captain). There are some pretty entertaining places to
- work in the military that you might not the chance to work near in
- the future: Europe, Asia, and so forth. And of course, medicine is
- medicine: patients can be much the same no matter where you work,
- and in any case the majority of patients in the military system are
- not actually active duty troops but retirees and dependents.
- Benefits can be nice as well: 30 days paid vacation each year, no
- overhead, and full medical/dental coverage.
-
- Military residencies, by the way, are generally quite good. When
- considering your training site come application time, you do want to
- think about issues like patient volume, didactics, and so forth,
- just as in any residency, but board pass rates for military
- residency grads have been uniformly excellent, and people have
- gotten into fine fellowships with minimal difficulty.
- (Incidentally, if you do a civilian fellowship as an active duty
- officer, the military will still pay you as an attending. Which is
- pretty sweet.)
-
- Now for the downside. You are sacrificing a few years of your life,
- in a sense. Although a flexible mindset and a willingness to
- compromise will help you get a good posting, not everyone in the
- Navy gets to go to Italy or San Diego. Internship and residency are
- relatively separate entities and require separate applications, not
- only for fields like anesthesia but even for fields with categorical
- internships like internal medicine or general surgery. Not only
- that, there is a risk that you will have to spend a couple of years
- away from training between your R-1 and R-2 years as a general
- medical officer, or GMO. This risk is greatest in the Navy overall
- but present in the Army and Air Force; it is also greater if you
- plan on pursuing a more specialized field like neurosurgery or
- anesthesia. Medicine, peds, and family med residents are more
- likely to complete their training uninterrupted. GMO tours vary
- between one to three years in length.
-
- (A brief proviso on the whole GMO thing. An anesthesiology
- attending at the National Naval Medical Center in Bethesda spent
- three years as the medical officer aboard the USS Belknap in the
- Mediterranean, and he loved it. After finishing his tour, he went
- on to his residency at Mass General. So it's not the kiss of death.
- Also, GMOs are a dying breed. The DoD is currently working out a
- plan to abolish GMOs and staff those positions with
- residency-trained docs. So stay tuned.)
-
- The military is a startlingly bureaucratic organization which has
- little ways of reminding you that it is, in fact, a branch of the
- federal government. For physicians, though, military medicine is
- actually not really different than working for a good HMO. Research
- in military medicine is quite impressive, incidentally, although its
- work is often very practical in orientation. There are good
- research ties with the NIH and CDC, and most residencies are very
- supportive of research (and may in fact require it of residents).
-
- There are a certain number of people each year in the HPSP who defer
- their commitment in order to do civilian residencies. The exact
- number varies depending on the year, the specialty, and the needs of
- the service. If you want to defer, it helps to have a good reason
- (i.e., spouse's job) and to not be rude (e.g., "I want to defer
- because military residencies are inferior").
-
- If you want to postpone the decision about military service, there
- is a financial assistance program (FAP) available to residents in
- most specialties, wherein you get about $30,000/yr on top of your
- civilian salary to repay loans (or buy a new car, possibly) in
- exchange for an equivalent number of years of service.
-
- 6.4) Can you tell me about Public Health Service scholarships?
-
- The Public Health Service offers a scholarship (The National Health
- Service Corps, <http://bphc.hrsa.gov/nhsc/>) paying full tuition,
- books, and supplies, and a monthly stipend, with the following
- requirements:
-
- 1) You must enter a primary care-type of residency (medicine,
- family med, peds) or at least something that's close (OB/GYN,
- psych), or a residency combining two of the above fields. A main
- limitation is that the residency not take more than 3 or 4 years.
- After serving your commitment you can undergo further medical
- training (i.e., fellowships).
-
- 2) You must serve one year in a federally-designated underserved
- area of your choice for each year the NHSC paid your tuition
- (minimum two years), be it an inner city (30% of sites) or a rural
- cow town (70% of sites).
-
- 3) As of December 1998, the IRS has deemed ALL parts of the NHSC
- scholarship as taxable, including tuition. So, if you go to a
- school that costs $28,000 per year, taxes will leave you with about
- $350 from your monthly $950 stipend. The NHSC has been trying to
- get Congress to reverse the IRS's reading of the law, but to no
- avail as of yet.
-
- There are similar programs available through various state
- governments and the Indian Health Service, some funded by the NHSC.
-
- Physicians who have completed training in a primary care field are
- eligible for Public Health Service positions, with opportunities for
- loan repayment. Some feel that this may be a better choice, as you
- are not locked into a primary care field without first going through
- your medical school rotations. See the NHSC web site for more
- information.
-
- 6.5) Can I really borrow more than $10K/yr in Unsubsidized
- Stafford Loans?
-
- With the phaseout of the HEAL program at all schools, the Department
- of Education has now authorized increased unsubsidized Stafford loan
- limits for Health Professions Students. This limit is now $30K/yr.
-
- The Student Financial Aid Handbook section detailing these limits
- may be found at:
- <http://ifap.ed.gov/sfahandbooks/attachments/0102Vol8Ch3loanperiodamts.pdf>.
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- Subject: 7. Residency and Beyond
-
- 7.1) What are the different medical specialties?
-
- A good source for learning about the different medical specialties
- is the American Board of Medical Specialties <http://www.abms.org>,
- an organization that coordinates and approves changes in board
- certification policy in the different medical fields. A complete
- list of the certifying boards and the general and subspecialty
- certificates that they offer can be found on their web site. A list
- of the major medical specialties can be found below. No effort has
- been made to list subspecialties.
-
- Allergy & Immunology
- Anesthesiology
- Colon & Rectal Surgery
- Dermatolology
- Emergency Medicine
- Family Practice
- Internal Medicine
- Medical Genetics
- Neurological Surgery
- Neurology
- Nuclear Medicine
- Obstetrics & Gynecology
- Ophthalmology
- Orthopaedic Surgery
- Otolaryngology
- Pathology
- Pediatrics
- Physical Medicine & Rehabilitation
- Plastic Surgery
- Preventive Medicine (including Occupational Medicine)
- Psychiatry
- Radiation Oncology
- Radiology
- Surgery
- Thoracic Surgery (including Cardiothoracic Surgery)
- Urology
-
- 7.2) What is a residency?
-
- Upon graduation from medical school, you become a "doctor" having
- earned the M.D. or D.O. degree. However, this isn't the end of
- formal medical training in this country. Many moons ago, back when
- almost all physicians were general practitioners, very few
- physicians completed more than a year of post-graduate training.
- That first year of training after medical school was called the
- "internship" and for most physicians it constituted the whole of
- their formal training after medical school; the rest was learned on
- the job. As medical science advanced and the complexity of and
- demand for medical specialists increased, the time it took to gain
- even a working knowledge of any of the specialties grew to the point
- where it became necessary to continue formal medical training for at
- least several years after medical school. This training period is
- called a "residency," earning its moniker from the old days when the
- young physicians actually lived in the hospital or on the hospital
- grounds, thus "residing" in the hospital for the period of their
- training.
-
- During residency, you and your classmates practice under the
- supervision of faculty physicians, generally in large medical
- centers. Many primary care specialties, however, are based in
- smaller medical centers. As you grow more experienced, you assume
- more responsibilities and independence until you graduate from the
- residency, and you are released to practice on your own upon an
- unsuspecting populace.
-
- The length of residency programs varies considerably between
- specialties and even a little within individual specialties. In
- general, the surgical specialties require longer residencies, and
- the primary care residencies the least time.
-
- Lengths of Some Residencies
- ---------------------------
- All surgical specialties 5+ years
- Obstetrics and Gynecology 4 years
- Family medicine 3 years
- Pediatrics 3 years
- Emergency Medicine 3-4 years
- Psychiatry 3 years
-
- The AMA maintains a database of almost all of the residency programs
- in the United States, called the Fellowship and Residency Electronic
- Interactive Database Access (FREIDA) system. It is available at
- <http://www.ama-assn.org/go/freida>.
-
- Recently a new type of residency has emerged, the so-called
- "combined residency." These residencies train physicians in two
- medical fields, such as internal medicine-pediatrics, or
- psychiatry-neurology. As these types of residencies are new, they
- are relatively few in number; they provide an opportunity for the
- physician to become "double-boarded" and receive board certification
- in each of the two specialties. Usually these residencies last one
- or two years less than the total years that would be spent doing
- both residencies.
-
- 7.2a) What is an internship?
-
- In the old days, all physician completed a one year "rotating
- internship" after graduating from medical school. Such an
- internship consisted of all the major subdivisions of medical
- practice: Internal medicine, surgery, obstetrics and gynecology,
- etc. The idea was to provide a broad spectrum of training to allow
- the new physician to work in the community as a "general
- practitioner."
-
- Today, the closest thing we have to the rotating internships of old
- is the "transitional year," also completed after graduating from
- medical school. For a few specialties, a year of post-gradute
- training is required before beginning a residency in that field.
- Many who want to go into these fields fill that requirement with a
- transitional year. Fields that require a year before beginning
- residency include radiology, neurology, anesthesiology, and
- ophthalmology.
-
- In the current lingo, the first year of post-graduate training is
- called "internship," and any medical school graduate in the first
- year of post-graduate training is called an "intern" regardless of
- what that first year of training consists. Most specialties do not
- require a transitional year, but instead accept medical school
- graduates straight out of medical school.
-
- 7.2b) What is a "preliminary" year? A "categorical" year?
-
- An alternative to the transitional year for some is the "preliminary
- year." Preliminary years come in two flavors, internal medicine and
- surgery. Each of these preliminary years somewhat resembles the
- rotating internships of old, but with a focus on either internal
- medicine or surgery. Those programs that require a year of
- post-graduate education before beginning residency may accept either
- a transitional year or a preliminary year. Obviously, surgical
- residencies will require that you do a preliminary surgery year
- while some other specialties will prefer a preliminary medicine
- year.
-
- The other reason that a new M.D. would go into a preliminary year or
- transitional year would be because he didn't match into the
- specialty of his choice. The hopeful applicant then takes a
- preliminary or transitional year in the hopes of improving his
- chances and qualifications for the next year's residency match.
-
- The term "categorical" is used largely to distinguish between the
- interns who are doing a preiminary year and those who are already
- accepted into the residency program. For instance, a general
- surgery program may have 6 interns every year, but two of them may
- doing surgery as a preliminary year. Those positions that are
- already accepted into the whole surgical residency program are
- called "categorical."
-
- 7.3) What is the Match?
-
- The Match (also cf 7.4) is a way to bring together residency
- applicants and residency programs in an organized fashion. After
- applying to and interviewing at various residency programs in their
- specialty of choice, students submit a "rank order list" which
- specifies their preferences for programs in numerical order.
- Residency programs submit similar lists. After all of the lists
- have been received, a computer matches applicants and programs. At
- noon Eastern time, on a fateful day in March of each year, all
- applicants across the country receive an envelope telling them where
- they will spend the next several years.
-
- Controversy has surrounded the Match algorithm in recent years, due
- to a slight preference for residency programs in a very small
- percentage of cases. The algorithm has since been changed to favor
- applicants' preferences.
-
- There are several books about residency and the Match. "First Aid
- for the Match" by Tao Le, et al., and "Getting into a Residency: A
- Guide for Medical Students" by Kenneth Iserson, MD, provide insights
- about how to prepare for the Match.
-
- 7.4) What is the NRMP?
-
- The National Resident Matching Program (NRMP) is the official name
- of the Match, which is run by the Association of American Medical
- Colleges (AAMC). Its home page may be found at
- <http://www.aamc.org/nrmp/>.
-
- 7.5) Are there specialties that don't use the NRMP?
-
- Several specialties have their own matching programs. Neurology,
- Neurosurgery, Ophthalmology, Otolaryngology, and Plastic Surgery,
- along with several subspecialty fellowship programs in these fields,
- have their matches coordinated through the San Francisco Matching
- Program <http://www.sfmatch.org>.
-
- Urology has its own matching program, coordinated by the American
- Urological Association at
- <http://www.auanet.org/students_residents/>.
-
- The "Match Day" for these specialties occurs in January, instead of
- March as for the NRMP. Consult the matching programs' web sites for
- schedules.
-
- 7.6) What is a fellowship?
-
- A fellowship is a period of training that you undertake following
- completion of your residency, as a means to subspecialization. For
- instance, a general surgeon can do a number of different fellowships
- (e.g. cardiothoracic surgery, plastic surgery), a pediatrician can
- complete a fellowship in pediatric endocrinology, etc. The list of
- possible subspecialties is almost endless. A fellow is considered
- somewhere in the hierarchy between residents and faculty. They are
- paid like advanced residents, but nothing close to what a private
- physician makes. People take fellowships for a number of different
- reasons: The subspecialty may be what they've always wanted to do in
- the first place, they may develop an interest in that field along
- the way, and it's often a path to a faculty position in a residency
- program and medical school. The length of fellowships also varies
- some, but usually lasts three years or less.
-
- 7.7) How many hours do interns/residents work?
-
- Intern and resident hours vary very widely depending on specialty,
- hospital, and within hospitals between different departments. Some
- specialties are well-known for their less demanding hours during
- residency (and often afterwards as well). These "lifestyle" fields
- include radiology, anesthesiology, and physical medicine and
- rehabilitation (physiatry). Specialties whose residencies are
- reputed for difficulty and lack of sleep are general surgery and
- obstetrics and gynecology. Most of the other specialties fall
- somewhere in between.
-
- Surgical interns and often internal medicine interns routinely work
- 100+ hours a week, with some months requiring a brutal every other
- night call schedule. This means, for instance, that you go to work
- on Monday morning (around 5-6 am) work all day, stay in the hospital
- all night (with varying amounts of sleep but usually 2-3 hours),
- work the following day as well (hoping that you may get out early),
- then go home for around 6 pm only to repeat the whole cycle again
- the next day. On months such as these, if you have a spouse,
- children, or pets, you won't see them. You can do the math to
- figure out how many hours per week that amounts to. Most call
- schedules for intern years run either every third or every fourth
- night on call.
-
- 7.7a) Aren't there limits on this?
-
- There are a few states that limit the number of hours that a
- resident can work. Perhaps the most prominent state with a such a
- law is New York.
-
- New York's law, limiting residents to 80 hours per week, came about
- largely due to the Libby Zion case. Libby Zion was a young woman
- whose death in a NYC teaching hospital sparked an investigation into
- the large amount of hours that residents work.
-
- Nevertheless, many hospitals in New York still do not follow this
- law and the state has performed "spot inspections" to attempt to
- verify compliance. For an excellent discussion of this issue, read
- the book "Residents: The Perils and Promise of Educating Young
- Doctors" by David Ewing Duncan.
-
- 7.8) What does "board certified" mean?
-
- Generally, to become certified by one of the boards recognized by
- the American Board of Medical Specialties <http://www.abms.org>, a
- physician must meet several requirements:
-
- 1) Possess an MD or DO degree from a recognized school of medicine
- 2) Complete 3 to 7 years of specialty training in an accredited
- residency
- 3) Some boards require assessments of competence from the training
- director
- 4) Most boards require the physician to have an unrestricted license
- 5) Some boards require experience in full-time practice, usually 2
- years
- 6) Pass a written examination, and sometimes an oral examination
-
- After certification, a physician is given the status of "diplomate"
- in that specialty. Many boards require recertification at regular
- intervals.
-
- 7.9) What does FACP/FACS/FACOG/etc. mean?
-
- Before discussing this, it may be useful to delineate the
- differences between organizations that physicians may be associated
- with. Some definitions:
-
- Association or Academy - A group for physicians in a particular
- field, that often sponsors meetings and publishes journals.
- Example: American Academy of Family Physicians.
-
- Board - Organization that conducts periodic examinations for
- physicians in a particular field, and offers "certification" (cf
- 7.8). The overseeing organization for all specialty boards is the
- American Board of Medical Specialties <http://www.abms.org>.
- Example: American Board of Internal Medicine.
-
- College - Similar to an association, but membership is often tied to
- board certification and experience. More of an honor than simple
- association membership, doctors are often elected to "fellowship"
- after recommendation by their colleagues. Example: American College
- of Surgeons.
-
- After a physician has received board certification in his/her field,
- and has gained a set amount of experience in that field (usually a
- specified number of years of practice), that physician can be
- recommended for fellowship status in their specialty college. After
- approval, the physician can then use their fellowship status on
- stationery and business cards, i.e. Susan M. Avery, M.D.,
- F.A.C.S. signifies that Dr. Avery has received fellowship status in
- the American College of Surgeons.
-
- 7.10) What is an IMG/FMG?
-
- Those who have graduated from medical schools outside of the United
- States and Canada are called International Medical Graduates (IMGs)
- or Foreign Medical Graduates (FMGs). Sometimes, US citizens who
- have attended foreign schools are called USFMGs to distinguish them
- from non-citizens.
-
- There has been a move of late among some members of Congress, the
- Accreditation Council for Graduate Medical Education (ACGME), and
- the AAMC, in light of a perceived surplus of physicians in the US,
- to reduce the number of Medicare-funded residency positions to 110%
- of the number of graduating US medical school seniors. As of yet,
- this has not been implemented.
-
- 7.11) What is the ECFMG? The CSA?
-
- The Educational Commission for Foreign Medical Graduates (ECFMG)
- <http://www.ecfmg.org> is an organization sponsored by the
- Federation of State Medical Boards, the AAMC, the AMA, the American
- Board of Medical Specialties, and others, that coordinates
- certification of graduation, passing grades on the United States
- Medical Licensing Examination (USMLE), and other information about
- FMGs. Prior to applying to residency or fellowship programs in the
- United States that are accredited by the Accreditation Council for
- Graduate Medical Education (ACGME), an FMG must hold a certificate
- from the ECFMG.
-
- CSA stands for "Clinical Skills Assessment," a new requirement for
- foreign-trained physicians seeking to obtain ECFMG certification.
- Applicants face 10 simulated patients and be evaluated on their
- ability to take a history, perform a physical exam and record a
- written note. More information can be found on the ECFMG web site
- at <http://www.ecfmg.org/csahome.htm>.
-
- 7.12) What is CME?
-
- A physician's education does not end with medical school and
- residency. Continuing Medical Education, or CME, allows physicians
- to keep up with new developments in all medical fields. Physicians
- earn "credits" for hours spent in various learning activities.
-
- The American Medical Association (AMA) offers the Physician
- Recognition Award (PRA) for doctors who complete 50 hours of CME
- credit per year. The AMA's classification of CME is as follows:
-
- Category 1: Formally organized and planned educational meetings,
- e.g., conferences, symposia. Also includes residency.
- Category 2: Less structured learning experiences, e.g.,
- consultations, discussions with colleagues, and
- teaching.
- Other: Reading "authoritative" medical literature, e.g.,
- peer-reviewed journals, textbooks.
-
- Organizations that receive the nod from the Accreditation Council
- for Continuing Medical Education (ACCME) <http://www.accme.org>, as
- well as state medical societies and other groups recognized by the
- AMA can provide "category 1" CME courses.
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