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- Welcome to the misc.education.medical Frequently Asked Questions list
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- contributed to this FAQ. Special thanks go to James Bright, who
- maintained the "version 1" FAQ from the early days of the newsgroup
- in 1994 until July 1998, and Sandeep Dave, who created the newsgroup
- in June 1994 and compiled the first FAQ answers.
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- Contributors to the current FAQ include: Natalie Belle; Tim Cramm;
- Scott Goodman; Chris Kahn; Ryan Maves; Kris McCoy; Greg Nee; John
- Nguyen; Dave Russo; Eric Wilkinson; and Timothy Wu.
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- ------------------------------
-
- Subject: 0. Contents
-
- 1) The Journey to Medical School -- Before Applying
-
- 1.1) What is an MD?
- 1.2) What is a DO?
- 1.3) What are the prerequisites for medical school?
- 1.4) What is the MSAR?
- 1.5) State school or Ivy League for undergrad?
- 1.6) Which major should I choose?
- 1.7) Is admission to medical school competitive?
- 1.8) Do I have to do research?
- 1.9) Do I have to have clinical experience?
- 1.10) How old is too old?
- 1.11) How high does my GPA need to be?
- 1.12) I completed college without finishing the pre-med
- requirements, and I want to apply to medical school.
- What do I do now?
- 1.13) What are some good sources of information about medical
- school and medicine?
-
- 2) The MCAT
-
- 2.1) What is the MCAT?
- 2.2) How important is the MCAT in the admission process?
- 2.3) What material is on the MCAT?
- 2.4) When should I start studying for the MCAT?
- 2.5) How should I study for the MCAT?
- 2.6) Should I take a review course?
- 2.7) Can you tell me about Stanley Kaplan vs. Princeton Review?
- 2.8) Are there any other options for review courses?
- 2.9) When should I take the MCAT?
- 2.10) Does it matter whether I take the MCAT in April or August?
- 2.11) What is a good MCAT score?
- 2.12) Are different sections of the MCAT more or less
- important than other sections?
- 2.13) My MCAT score was not stellar. Is it advisable to
- take the MCAT twice? Three times?
- 2.14) Should I go ahead and apply with my current MCAT
- score, or should I wait until I take the test again?
- 2.15) How do medical schools interpret multiple MCAT attempts?
- 2.16) I heard that you can take the MCAT as "practice"
- but not have your score count. I could use the practice;
- is this a good idea?
- 2.17) Can I decide not to release my MCAT scores and then later
- decide to release them after I have seen my score?
-
- 3) Applying to Medical School
-
- 3.1) What is the timeline for admissions?
- 3.2) Where can I find a list of medical schools?
- 3.3) What is AMCAS/AACOMAS?
- 3.4) How many schools should I apply to?
- 3.5) Which schools should I apply to?
- 3.5a) What are good sources to help me choose?
- 3.6) How expensive is it to apply?
- 3.6a) Is there any way to make the application process cheaper?
- 3.7) Should I apply to DO schools?
- 3.8) What is a secondary/supplementary?
- 3.9) What is an MD/PhD program?
- 3.9a) What are the different sources of funding for MD/PhD programs?
- 3.10) Should I enroll in a combined BS/MD program?
- 3.11) What are combined MD/MPH and DO/MPH programs?
- 3.12) Can you tell me about combined MD/MBA programs?
- 3.13) Can you tell me about combined MD/JD programs?
- 3.14) What are PAs?
- 3.15) Should I consider going to a foreign school?
-
- 4) The Interview Process
-
- 4.1) How can I prepare for my interview?
- 4.2) What should I wear to the interview?
- 4.3) Should I bring anything to the interview?
- 4.4) What will I be asked?
- 4.5) "Why do you want to be a doctor?"
- 4.6) What questions should I ask?
- 4.7) Should I do anything after the interview?
- 4.8) What does "waitlisted" mean? What does "hold" mean?
- 4.9) What if I don't get accepted?
- 4.10) How should I choose what school to go to?
- 4.11) What should I do during the summer before medical school?
-
- 5) Medical School Curricula
-
- 5.1) How long is medical school?
- 5.2) What classes are there in medical school?
- 5.3) How are students graded/evaluated in medical school?
- 5.4) What are "rotations"?
- 5.5) What are the "must have" textbooks?
- 5.6) What is PBL?
- 5.7) Is there any free time in medical school?
- 5.8) What is the USMLE?
- 5.9) What is a good USMLE score?
- 5.10) What is AOA?
-
- 6) Paying for Medical School
-
- 6.1) How expensive is medical school?
- 6.2) How can I pay for medical school?
- 6.3) Can you tell me about Armed Forces scholarships?
- 6.4) Can you tell me about Public Health Service scholarships?
- 6.5) Can I really borrow more than $10K/yr in Unsubsidized
- Stafford Loans?
-
- 7) Residency and Beyond
-
- 7.1) What are the different medical specialties?
- 7.2) What is a residency?
- 7.2a) What is an internship?
- 7.2b) What is a "preliminary" year? A "categorical" year?
- 7.3) What is the Match?
- 7.4) What is the NRMP?
- 7.5) Are there specialties that don't use the NRMP?
- 7.6) What is a fellowship?
- 7.7) How many hours do interns/residents work?
- 7.7a) Aren't there limits on this?
- 7.8) What does "board certified" mean?
- 7.9) What does FACP/FACS/FACOG/etc. mean?
- 7.10) What is an IMG/FMG?
- 7.11) What is the ECFMG? The CSA?
- 7.12) What is CME?
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Subject: 1. The Journey to Medical School -- Before Applying
-
- 1.1) What is an MD?
-
- An MD, or Doctor of Medicine, most simply is a person who has
- graduated from a medical school. An MD can have many and varying
- roles in the community. First, an MD is a caregiver, a person turned
- to by members of the community in times of physical, psychological or
- emotional weakness. MDs treat not only the body but also the mind and
- the spirit, often delving into the emotional, psychological or social
- reasons behind a physical illness. MDs treat people in inpatient
- settings, in the operating room, outpatient clinics, and in emergency
- room visits.
-
- Not all MDs, though, deal with patients in such a direct manner.
- Pathologists deal with diseased tissues taken from the patient as well
- as clinical laboratory and blood bank settings. Radiologists deal
- with images of the patient produced and enhanced by various imaging
- technologies. Some MDs choose to concentrate their efforts solely on
- research, developing new equipment, vaccines, drugs, or discovering
- the underlying causes of disease. MDs can devote their time to
- teaching, both in a classroom setting (in a medical school, for
- example) and in the community (teaching preventive methods to
- community members, teaching CPR or first aid, or administering
- vaccines).
-
- Becoming an MD opens up to you a vast number of possibilities for
- using your medical training. MDs serve the community in many more
- ways than just seeing patients, prescribing drugs, or performing
- surgery. If you say to yourself, "I'm not a people person, so I'd
- make a lousy doctor," keep in mind that there are ways to use your
- interest in medicine to benefit the community without seeing
- patients on a day-to-day basis.
-
- 1.2) What is a DO?
-
- Doctors of Osteopathic Medicine (DOs) are the legal and professional
- equivalents of Doctors of Medicine (MDs). They are licensed to
- practice medicine in all 50 states and use all conventionally
- accepted therapeutic modalities such as surgery, radiology, and
- drugs. They are eligible to enroll in all federal programs, managed
- care and insurance plans, serve as commissioned medical officers in
- all branches of armed services, and serve as public health officers,
- coroners, insurance examiners, and team physicians. In other words,
- they practice complete medicine and surgery. Only DOs and MDs can
- do this.
-
- DOs represent about 5% of the country's physicians and provide care
- for approximately 10% of the patients. This is because higher
- proportions of osteopathic medical graduates enter into primary care
- residencies after graduation compared to their MD counterparts.
-
- Andrew Taylor Still, MD founded osteopathic medicine in the late
- 1800's in response to what he thought was poor medical practice at
- that time. He based osteopathic medicine on the following
- principles:
-
- 1) The structure of the body and its functions work together,
- inter-dependently.
-
- 2) The body systems have built-in repair processes which are
- self-regulating and self-healing in the face of disease.
-
- 3) The circulatory system provides the integrating functions for
- the rest of the body.
-
- 4) The musculoskeletal system contributes more to a person's health
- than only providing framework and support.
-
- 5) While disease may be manifested in specific parts of the body; other
- parts may contribute to a restoration or a correction of the disease.
-
- The preparation and training of DOs is nearly identical to the
- training of MDs. Admission prerequisites and curricula are very
- similar. DOs can sit for the MD boards if they are interested in
- pursuing a MD residency after graduation.
-
- The primary difference in their education is that DO students
- complete an additional 200-300 hours of training in osteopathic
- manipulative medicine (OMM). OMM is a modality used primarily to
- treat musculoskeletal problems and overlaps in its scope with
- physical therapy and manual medicine techniques. Also, DO schools
- place more emphasis on producing primary care physicians than do
- some MD schools. This means that during their clinical years,
- students at DO schools spend more time rotating through primary care
- specialties such as family medicine, pediatrics, obstetrics and
- gynecology, internal medicine, and psychiatry. Nevertheless,
- specialty training isn't out of the question for DOs. Many DOs seek
- and obtain residencies in surgical and non-surgical specialties.
-
- For more information, see the American Association of Colleges of
- Osteopathic Medicine at <http://www.aacom.org>.
-
- 1.3) What are the prerequisites for medical school?
-
- All medical schools require a baccalaureate (BA, AB, BS, or
- equivalent) degree, with rare exceptions. The usual course
- prerequisites for both MD and DO schools are:
-
- 1 year of Biology or Zoology (with lab)
- 1 year of Inorganic Chemistry (with lab)
- 1 year of Organic Chemistry (with lab)
- 1 year of Physics (with lab)
-
- Some schools require english, humanities, calculus, or biochemistry
- as well. Check the book "Medical School Admission Requirements" (cf
- 1.4) for each school's particular requirements.
-
- The one year of Physics need not be calculus-based, although many
- colleges offer only the calculus-based class.
-
- There is disagreement over whether prerequisites may be taken at
- community or junior colleges. To be sure, contact the individual
- schools to which you plan to apply.
-
- Many students finish their undergraduate degrees without completing
- the medical school prerequisites. Some of these students choose to
- take the courses at their local public college or university, while
- others enroll in more formal "post-baccalaureate" programs, where the
- classes are taken full-time over approximately a year.
-
- 1.4) What is the MSAR?
-
- The book "Medical School Admission Requirements," or "MSAR," is often
- considered the premedical student's "bible." Published by the
- Association of American Medical Colleges (AAMC), it contains
- information on premedical requirements for each of the MD schools in
- the US and Canada, as well as information and statistics about
- admissions, financial aid, and minority student issues. Many
- questions not answered in this FAQ will be answered in the MSAR. It
- is revised each April, so make sure you get the most recent edition.
- You should definitely get this book if you are considering medical
- school. You can buy a copy at your local college bookstore, from an
- online bookstore, or direct from the AAMC at:
- <http://www.aamc.org/publications/resources.htm>.
-
- 1.5) State school or Ivy League for undergrad?
-
- In general, whether you attend a well-known school or a relatively
- invisible school is not important. What is important, however, is
- doing well at whichever school you decide to attend. One thing you
- may want to keep in mind is that doing well at a prominent
- institution goes a lot farther than doing well at a lesser-known
- state college. Choose what you are most comfortable with, not what
- you think the medical schools want to see.
-
- 1.6) Which major should I choose?
-
- According to the Association of American Medical Colleges, a
- premedical student may select any major he or she chooses, provided
- that he or she completes the prerequisites for medical study (cf
- 1.3). The most important thing is to select a major you enjoy, as
- this would allow you to master the subject. Medical school
- admissions committees want to see students who master their major
- fields of concentration in college, and many medical schools enjoy
- receiving applications from students who have studied areas outside
- of the sciences. Acceptance statistics broken down by major are
- provided in the MSAR (cf. 1.4).
-
- 1.7) Is admission to medical school competitive?
-
- Medical school admissions has always been competitive, as there are
- always more applicants than there are seats. In recent years,
- however, admissions has become even more competitive as the AAMC has
- logged a record increase in applications which hit a peak of
- approximately 45,000 applications during the 1995-1996 cycle, which
- represents a ratio of about 3 applicants for every medical school
- seat. Since then the number of applications filed has slowly
- declined.
-
- 1.8) Do I have to do research?
-
- Absolutely not, but doing research does help to demonstrate
- analytical skills in scientific investigation which are helpful for
- practicing physicians. There are many medical students who have
- never stepped inside a lab outside the prerequisite lab courses, but
- at the same time, many people feel that with increased competition
- for medical school seats, research experience is a much-needed notch
- on the applicant's belt.
-
- 1.9) Do I have to have clinical experience?
-
- Gaining clinical experience as a premedical student is rather
- important as it can show that your decision to want to go to medical
- school is well-rooted, and not coming out of left field. Gaining
- clinical experience, however, means different things to different
- people. Simply volunteering at your local hospital may not be
- sufficient, as these volunteer opportunities often have you do tasks
- very unrelated to medicine (e.g. filing, faxing, copying). Look for
- "Health Career Opportunity Programs," or other such internships
- designed for premedical students, so that your valuable premedical
- time is not wasted in a second-rate program. If your school has a
- "premedical internship" program, take advantage of it.
-
- 1.10) How old is too old?
-
- It may not be too late. Students in their 30s and 40s are admitted
- to many medical schools. Anecdotes about students in their 50s have
- been posted on misc.education.medical. When making your plans, keep
- in mind that the shortest amount of time from entering medical
- school until exiting the shortest residency (general internal
- medicine, general pediatrics, or family practice) is 7 years.
-
- 1.11) How high does my GPA need to be?
-
- Perhaps every premedical student has heard tales of the 3.9 GPA Phi
- Beta Kappa applicant getting into every medical school he or she
- applied to, and of the 2.5 GPA student applying to medical school
- without a prayer, but there is a little more to the GPA issue than
- just getting above a certain mark. GPAs will vary depending on the
- competitiveness of your school, so if you attend a world-renowned
- institution such as Harvard, your GPA will be calculated based on
- competition with an intense student body.
-
- If you attend Acme State University, where there is a major in
- bartending, your GPA will be calculated based on competition with a
- slightly less intense student body. Generally, however, a 2.3 at
- Harvard is still pretty bad and probably not as good as a 4.0 at
- Acme State, and we can guess that perhaps the Harvard student is not
- going to get into medical school. So what are the generalities we
- should look at when determining whether our GPAs are good enough for
- medical school? Some premedical advisors say that if your GPA is
- 3.3 at a good school, you have a 20% chance for admission. Others
- will say having a 3.5 to 3.6 is the requisite GPA, but if you keep
- it as high as you can, you should have no problem (so try to keep it
- above 3.3!).
-
- 1.12) I completed college without finishing the pre-med requirements,
- and I want to apply to medical school. What do I do now?
-
- There are a couple of options. You can enroll at a local college or
- university as a non-degree student and simply take the
- prerequisites. Additionally, you might consider enrolling in a
- formal post-baccalaureate pre-medical program offered by many of
- colleges and universities in response to an increasing number of
- students changing careers into medicine. A comprehensive list of
- "post-bacc" pre-med programs can be found at
- <http://www.aamc.org/students/considering/postbac.htm>.
-
- 1.13) What are some good sources of information about medical
- school and medicine?
-
- RECOMMENDED AUTHORS OF BOOKS ABOUT MEDICINE
-
- Lewis Thomas, MD
- Sherwin Nuland, MD
- David Hilfiker, MD
- Perri Klass, MD
- Oliver Sacks, MD
- Robert Marion, MD
- David Ewing Duncan
-
- BOOKS ABOUT MEDICAL SCHOOL ADMISSIONS
-
- There are many books on this subject (too many to list), and
- quality varies widely. For an exhaustive list, try doing a search
- on "medical school" at an online bookstore.
-
- DOCUMENTARY
-
- The PBS television show NOVA aired a documentary about the training
- of seven medical students at Harvard Medical School, following them
- from anatomy lab through residency. Highly recommended. "MD: The
- Making of a Doctor" may be ordered from WGBH-Boston, item #WG2207,
- by calling 1-800-255-9424. It costs $19.95.
-
- An update on the "Making of a Doctor" physicians was recently
- completed, called "Survivor MD." It is a 3-hour special and can be
- ordered from WGBH at the number above for $29.95.
-
- WEB
-
- "Official" sites on the World Wide Web (many of these are referenced at
- other points in the FAQ):
-
- Association of American Medical Colleges (AAMC) <http://www.aamc.org>
- Liaison Committee on Medical Education (LCME) <http://www.lcme.org>
- National Board of Medical Examiners <http://www.nbme.org>
- Federation of State Medical Boards <http://www.fsmb.org>
- United States Medical Licensing Examination (USMLE)
- <http://www.usmle.org>
- American Association of Colleges of Osteopathic Medicine (AACOM)
- <http://www.aacom.org>
- American Medical Association (AMA) <http://www.ama-assn.org>
-
- USENET
-
- The Usenet newsgroup for discussing medical school and medical
- education is misc.education.medical. Medicine is discussed in the
- sci.med.* hierarchy of newsgroups.
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Subject: 2. The MCAT
-
- 2.1) What is the MCAT?
-
- The Medical College Admissions Test, or MCAT, is the standardized
- admissions test required by nearly all U.S. medical schools (some
- combined BS/MD programs that accept students directly from high
- school do not require the MCAT). The test consists of four
- sections: Verbal Reasoning (scored 1-15), Physicial Sciences (scored
- 1-15), Biological Sciences (scored 1-15), and an essay section
- (scored J-T, with T being the highest). The test takes one long
- Saturday to complete and is offered twice a year, usually in mid
- April and in late August. Official information about the MCAT,
- including registration information, may be obtained online from the
- Association of American Medical Colleges (AAMC), at
- <http://www.aamc.org/students/mcat/start.htm>.
-
- 2.2) How important is the MCAT in the admission process?
-
- The MCAT is very important. A high MCAT score by itself will not
- get you into medical school, but a low MCAT score may keep you out.
- Unfortunately, an otherwise qualified applicant may not even be
- granted an interview if his or her MCAT scores are not high enough.
- Once an interview is granted, each applicant is evaluated
- individually in determining acceptance or rejection. In most cases
- the MCAT still is just as important as other parts of the
- application in making the final decision.
-
- 2.3) What material is on the MCAT?
-
- The official MCAT registration materials include a syllabus that
- spells out the subject matter tested in detail. Below is a summary:
-
- * The verbal reasoning test is virtually identical to similar tests
- found on other standardized exams (such as LSAT, GRE, or even SAT),
- except it typically contains two or three science-oriented passages.
-
- * The essay section consists of two timed half-hour essays. In each
- essay you are asked to interpret an open-ended ambiguous statement.
-
- * The physical sciences test covers inorganic chemistry and physics.
- One full year (two semesters) each of inorganic chemistry and physics
- sufficiently covers all the tested material.
-
- * The biological sciences test covers a variety of biology topics
- (about 50% of test) and organic chemistry (about 50% of test). One
- full year of organic chemistry plus lab is sufficient to cover the
- organic chemistry material on the MCAT.
-
- 2.4) When should I start studying for the MCAT?
-
- Nearly all students require at least two months of regular review to
- cover all the necessary material. Many students require longer.
- However, preparation really begins as soon as you start college--by
- doing your best in your undergraduate science courses and reading
- broadly to prepare for the verbal reasoning section. You can then
- spend the final 2 or 3 months reviewing and solidifying the
- information you have already learned. It is unlikely that you will
- learn and understand a lot of new material in the final months
- leading up to the MCAT.
-
- 2.5) How should I study for the MCAT?
-
- Basically, whatever study methods have served you well in the past
- should also help you prepare for the MCAT. For example, if you read
- your textbooks heavily in class, then review your textbooks. If you
- used study sheets or notecards in your classes, then review those.
- A few other tips:
-
- * It is important to be quite disciplined and to make the time
- necessary for review. Most pre-medical students find they don't have
- the time for MCAT review unless they make a concerted effort to make
- the time.
-
- * For more structured review, consider buying a review book (such as
- the Kaplan MCAT Comprehensive Review with CDROM, edited by Rochelle
- Rothstein) or taking a review course (see below)
-
- * No matter what you do, take lots of timed practice tests. Practice
- MCAT tests are available directly from the AAMC, in any book store, or
- through review courses.
-
- 2.6) Should I take a review course?
-
- That depends. If you are overwhelmed by the thought of MCAT review,
- and if you like structure and learn well in a classroom environment,
- then a review course is not a bad idea. When used properly, review
- courses are an expensive, effective way to prepare for the MCAT.
- They offer structured, comprehensive review, teacher-student
- interaction, numerous practice tests and test- taking strategies,
- and comprehensive, well-written review materials. However, do not
- enroll in a review course just for the materials. Equally good
- materials (such as the Kaplan Comprehensive Review, cf. 2.5) may be
- purchased in the bookstore for a whole lot less money.
-
- 2.7) Can you tell me about Stanley Kaplan vs. Princeton Review?
-
- Stanley Kaplan <http://www.kaplan.com> and Princeton Review
- <http://www.review.com> are the two largest standardized test review
- companies in the United States. Opinions differ as to which company
- offers a better review course for the MCAT. Traditionally, the
- Kaplan course focused more on detail and offered more review
- materials, while the Princeton Review course focused more on "the
- big picture" and offered more student-teacher interaction. However,
- Kaplan has recently decreased its class-size, and Princeton Review
- recently increased the amount and detail-level of materials offered.
- Today the two courses really are more similar than they are
- different. The biggest factor in determining the quality of either
- course is the quality of its teacher. If you want to take a review
- course, it helps to ask around locally to see which courses have a
- better reputation in the local area.
-
- 2.8) Are there any other options for review courses?
-
- Yes. Many colleges offer structured review courses for the MCAT.
- Ask your local pre-med advisor for details. Also, if you happen to
- live in California, MCAT review courses offered by the Berkeley
- Review <http://www.berkeley-review.com> have an excellent
- reputation.
-
- 2.9) When should I take the MCAT?
-
- You should take the MCAT at least one year prior to the date you
- wish to begin medical school. However, do not take the test until
- you have completed the necessary pre-requisite courses: one year
- each of biology, inorganic chemistry, organic chemistry, and
- physics. Many students take the April MCAT while they are
- concurrently taking prerequisite courses (usually Physics II,
- Organic Chemistry II, and/or an advanced biology course). This is
- not a bad strategy: virtually all of the material tested on the MCAT
- will already be covered by the time April rolls around -- and the
- material should be fresh in your mind, since you have just learned
- it.
-
- 2.10) Does it matter whether I take the MCAT in April or August?
-
- If you are prepared for the exam, it's probably best to take it in
- April. Taking the test earlier allows you to complete your
- application early in the season--and the earlier you submit your
- application, the better. Also, If you are applying under an early
- decision program, you *must* take the April MCAT of that year (or
- any time prior) so that test scores are available in time for early
- interviews. Of course, there is also an advantage to taking it in
- August: it allows you more time to study. You can take the exam in
- August and still apply for the same application season, but you'll
- be running a tight time-schedule. Keep in mind that it takes
- approximately 8 weeks for scores to get back to the schools.
-
- 2.11) What is a good MCAT score?
-
- Traditionally a good score is "double digits" (10 or better) on each
- test, and a score of at least "N" on the essay. You can get into
- medical school with lower scores, depending on the rest of your
- application and on the medical school. For your state medical
- school, a total score of 27 or higher, with no individual score less
- than 8, is probably sufficient. It is important to have a well
- balanced MCAT score, with no individual score markedly lower than
- the rest of the test. For example, a score of 8,8,8 (total 24) is
- generally considered superior to a score of 10,10,5 (total 25).
-
- 2.12) Are different sections of the MCAT more or less important than
- other sections?
-
- Yes. The essay section is less important than the other sections.
- Your essay score is impressive if it is extremely high (S or T) and
- is detrimental if it is extremely low (J or K). However, any score
- in between has little or no impact on your application. Be sure to
- demonstrate your writing abilities to medical schools by composing a
- well-written personal statement essay.
-
- 2.13) My MCAT score was not stellar. Is it advisable to take the MCAT
- twice? three times?
-
- Yes--as long as you improve your score! Taking the MCAT multiple
- times is only helpful if a significant score improvement is
- reflected in each attempt. However, it is preferrable to study as
- hard as possible and be prepared so that you do an excellent job on
- your first attempt. Who wants to take this test multiple times,
- anyway?
-
- 2.14) Should I go ahead and apply with my current MCAT score, or should
- I wait until I take the test again?
-
- If you received greater than 27 on your first attempt, it is
- advisable to apply with your current score and not take the test
- again. If you received less than 24, you should probably take the
- test again, prepare harder next time, and try to improve your score.
- The range of 24-27 is a grey zone: whether to take the test again
- depends on the rest of your application and on where you are
- applying. Note that these are just guidelines. You must consider
- your own individual situation to arrive at a final decision. Also
- note: if you take the MCAT in April and are dissatisfied with your
- scores, you can go ahead an apply anyway and still retake the test
- in August for the same application year. It's better to submit your
- application early than to submit it in the fall.
-
- 2.15) How do medical schools interpret multiple MCAT attempts?
-
- Medical schools consider them favorably, as long as you improve your
- score. Most medical schools will consider the highest overall MCAT
- score in evaluating your final application.
-
- 2.16) I heard that you can take the MCAT as "practice" but not have your
- score count. I could use the practice; is this a good idea?
-
- No. At the end of the exam, you must decide whether or not to
- release your scores. It is almost always advisable to have your
- scores released. The only good reason not to release scores is if
- you know you did poorly by some fluke; for example, if you filled in
- all the bubbles incorrectly. Deciding not to release your scores on
- a whim is not advisable.
-
- 2.17) Can I decide not to release my MCAT scores and then later decide
- to release them after I have seen my score?
-
- Yes, however, medical schools will be informed that you originally
- did not release your scores and later decided to release them. This
- allowance is actually a new rule recently instituted by the AAMC.
- Because the rule is new, it is unclear how medical schools will view
- an MCAT score that was originally not released. Common sense says
- that medical schools will not view this favorably, and that it is
- not a good idea to exercise this option.
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- Subject: 3. Applying to Medical School
-
- 3.1) What is the timeline for admissions?
-
- AMCAS (cf 3.3) begins accepting applications on June 1. After
- receiving your application and school transcripts, you will receive
- a Transmittal Notification from AMCAS, which means that schools have
- been sent your central application. After evaluating your
- application, schools can choose to have you continue the process by
- completing a supplementary application (cf 3.8) and after further
- evaluation, an interview (cf Section 4). Some schools are on a
- "rolling admissions" system where applicants can hear about an
- admissions decision fairly soon after interviewing. Other schools
- wait until late in the season to send decision letters. More
- information can be found in the MSAR (cf 1.4), the AMCAS application
- materials, and school admissions brochures.
-
- 3.2) Where can I find a list of medical schools?
-
- The MSAR (cf 1.4) has a list of all of the medical schools in the US
- and Canada accredited by the Liaison Committee on Medical Education
- (LCME) <http://www.lcme.org>. On the Internet, you can find this
- same list at <http://www.aamc.org/meded/medschls/start.htm>.
-
- 3.3) What is AMCAS/AACOMAS?
-
- AMCAS, the American Medical College Application Service, is a
- centralized program which works much like the "Common Application"
- that you may have seen in high school (for applying to college).
- Run by the Association of American Medical Colleges (AAMC), it
- consists of a form you fill out like an application, which is sent
- to AMCAS, processed, and then distributed to those medical schools
- you wish to apply. In the past several years a computer-based
- version, AMCAS-E, has been developed. See the AMCAS web page at
- <http://www.aamc.org/students/amcas/start.htm>. AACOMAS, the
- American Association of Colleges of Osteopathic Medicine Application
- Service, is a similar service for osteopathic medical programs run
- by the AACOM <http://www.aacom.org>.
-
- 3.4) How many schools should I apply to?
-
- Depends. If you're 4.0 and 40+ on the MCAT, then probably you could
- apply to only one or two and get away with it. There are stories of
- people who applied to 50 or 60 schools and didn't get into any.
- Most people apply to around 10, more if they feel their folder is a
- little weak, less if they think they've got a pretty solid record.
-
- 3.5) Which schools should I apply to?
-
- Your best bet is to think about where you'd like to go to school and
- apply there. Remember: Wherever you go, not only will you be
- spending the next 4 years there, but also the odds are pretty good
- that you will do your residency there as well. So don't pick
- someplace you'd never want to live. Always apply to your state
- school, if you have one; most (if not all) state schools give
- preference to people who are state residents, and every little bit
- of help counts. You should have 2-3 schools that are a real
- stretch--places you don't think you could get in to but places you'd
- love to go. Try to find 1-2 places that you think you have an
- excellent shot at; your state school usually goes here. And in the
- middle, 6 (or more) places that you think you'd be competitive at.
- Finally, don't discount D.O. schools (cf 3.7).
-
- 3.5a) What are good sources to help me choose?
-
- Your primary source should be your college's pre-medical advisor.
- Make an appointment with him/her early on--sophomore or junior year
- would be best. Make sure he/she pulls your transcripts, etc. before
- you show up. The two of you can talk about your strong and weak
- points, what you could do to boost your chances, and which schools
- you should apply to. Also keep in mind that most pre-medical
- advisors send a letter along with your applications, so getting to
- know him/her will help get a more accurate letter for your file.
-
- The Internet is a good source. Most medical schools have web sites
- that give lots of information, application requirements, etc. In
- addition, post any questions, concerns, fears, or despairs to the
- misc.education.medical Usenet group. It's populated by lots of
- grizzled veterans who have been through this process (sometimes more
- than once) and can help you avoid the pitfalls.
-
- Another essential source is the MSAR (cf 1.4).
-
- 3.6) How expensive is it to apply?
-
- The AMCAS fee is about $45 for the first school, and $25 for each
- additional school. When your AMCAS is processed, most schools will
- request "supplementary" information, and filing this will cost an
- additional $60-$125. The AACOMAS fee is practically the same, and
- the cost for filing supplementary materials at osteopathic medical
- schools is also anywhere from $60 to $125. Add in costs for the
- MCAT, flying to schools for interviews, hotels, and other expenses,
- and the total application cost can rise into the thousands of
- dollars depending on how many schools you apply to.
-
- 3.6a) Is there any way to make the application process cheaper?
-
- You can request from AMCAS a fee waiver, which covers the cost of
- AMCAS filing and supplementary filing fees for up to 10 medical
- schools. Fee waivers are based on financial need, and many schools
- will waive their supplementary application fee (cf 3.6) if you have
- an AMCAS fee waiver. The MCAT also offers a fee waiver program.
-
- 3.7) Should I apply to DO schools?
-
- Osteopathic medical schools have a reputation for "looking past the
- numbers" in their admissions process. Consequently, the average
- accepted MCAT scores and GPA are a bit lower at DO schools. If
- you're an academically borderline candidate, but have a competitive
- application overall, your chances for admission might be higher at
- DO schools. Because most DO schools emphasize primary care
- medicine, they look very closely at an applicant's motivation for
- pursuing medicine and prior life experience. The average age of
- matriculation tends to be higher at DO schools than MD schools.
- Students who want to practice an osteopathic approach to patient
- care are especially sought after; this means demonstrating an
- interest in hands-on medicine and a commitment to a holistic
- understanding of patient care issues, especially time spent with a
- DO.
-
- There are two important points to consider if you're thinking of
- applying to DO schools. First, DOs are minority physicians in the
- profession of medicine. If you are uncomfortable being different,
- think that you'll always have to prove something because you're not
- an MD, or are likely to become frustrated having to explain what a
- DO is to new patients, then DO schools might not be right for you.
- Second, you might have a harder time competing for some of the
- "brand-name" MD residencies. Many competitive MD residencies don't
- regard the additional training DO students receive as applicable to
- their particular area of medicine, and with keen competition for
- slots among MD applicants, they feel obliged to take their own
- first. There are DO specialty residencies in everything ranging
- from aerospace medicine to otolaryngology, but these residencies
- tend to be concentrated in the eastern and mid-western United
- States. Some students find the geographic limitations of these
- residencies unattractive.
-
- In short, some students have compared the kind of medical education
- DO schools offer to the kind of undergraduate education that smaller
- liberal arts colleges offer. Both stress generalist skills and
- training. Like the smaller undergraduate colleges, the research
- programs at DO schools tend to be smaller. Consequently, the basic
- science faculty is usually more professionally involved in medical
- education than research. However, it is difficult to make accurate
- generalizations because there is much variety in curricular programs
- offered by both MD and DO schools. There are primary care oriented
- MD schools and research oriented DO schools. The most prudent
- advice is to look at the curriculum and educational focus of each
- medical school on a case by case basis.
-
- 3.8) What is a secondary/supplementary?
-
- Secondary (also called supplementary) applications come in a variety
- of forms and typically are utilized only by schools using the AMCAS
- application (MD programs), or schools using the AACOMAS application
- (DO programs) rather than their own application. Depending on the
- school, they may request no more than a check and signature to
- complete processing of your application, or they may ask you to
- provide additional information such as SAT scores and respond to
- several essay questions.
-
- A number of schools "screen" applicants prior to sending secondary
- applications. This means that based on information (essay,
- biographical data, MCAT scores and GPA) provided by the applicant's
- AMCAS or AACOMAS application, the school decides whether or not to
- send a secondary application to the applicant. Screening of
- applications at the secondary stage is not done by all schools; many
- schools have all applicants complete all application materials and
- then decide who to interview based on information contained in the
- primary and secondary applications.
-
- Information on application fees and whether a school uses secondary
- applications may be found in the MSAR (cf. 1.4).
-
- 3.9) What is an MD/PhD program?
-
- Students that are enrolled in combined MD/PhD programs pursue the MD
- and the PhD degrees concurrently. Students can select from a number
- of fields in which to complete the PhD. Although this field is
- typically a biomedical science (e.g., biochemistry, immunology),
- students in the past have combined their medical studies with
- research in engineering and the humanities. Combined programs
- typically require 7-9 years to complete. The first two years are
- typically spent on the basic science portion of the M.D. curriculum.
- The next three to five years are spent on full time PhD work. The
- final two years of the combined program are spent on the clinical
- portion of the MD curriculum. MD/PhD programs are eclectic by
- nature, however, and the course of study can be very individualized.
-
- Combined MD/PhD programs were initiated to train a cadre of academic
- medical scientists who could make fundamental scientific discoveries
- and then translate these discoveries into tools and knowledge that
- could be used at the bedside. It is important to note that "doing
- it all", from the lab bench to the patient bedside, is extremely
- difficult. Both caring for patients and running a research program
- are full time jobs in and of themselves! Most MD/PhDs focus on
- either lab research or patient care to stay abreast of their fields
- and to remain competitive with their peers. With that caveat,
- however, MD/PhD training has some benefits.
-
- Some good reasons to pursue an MD/PhD
-
- - You want to focus on clinical research and practice, but would
- like rigorous research training
- - You want to focus on research, but want the perspective provided
- by clinical training
-
- Bad reasons to pursue an MD/PhD
- - You want extra letters after your name
- - You want to save money (in the long run, you probably won't!)
-
- Ultimately, the decision to pursue an MD/PhD is a personal one.
- Think about the career goals you envision for yourself and whether
- they can be achieved with a single degree. Consider talking with
- MD/PhDs who have careers similar to that which you envision for
- yourself. Information on programs may be found at
- <http://www.aamc.org/research/dbr/mdphd/programs.htm>.
-
- 3.9a) What are the different sources of funding for MD/PhD programs?
-
- 1. Medical Scientist Training Program (at official NIH MSTP schools)
- 2. Other NIH funds (e.g., Human Genome Training Grant)
- 3. School-Specific Funds (e.g., Franklin's scholars program at UPenn)
- 4. Funds from special interest groups (e.g., funds for the study of
- alcoholism)
- 5. Howard Hughes Medical Institute Funds
-
- 3.10) Should I enroll in a combined BS/MD program?
-
- BS/MD programs, or, more appropriately, college/MD programs, allow a
- high school student to apply to both college and medical school
- during the college application process. If accepted, the student is
- assured a place in a medical school class, assuming she performs at
- an acceptable level. While many of these programs only allow
- specific majors, some will allow any major, including those which
- award the BA.
-
- Thirty-six of these programs currently exist all across the United
- States, in sixteen states and the District of Columbia. Program
- length generally varies from six to eight years, although the
- University of Wisconsin-Madison does allow extension to nine years.
- Admissions guidelines vary widely. Some schools specifically state
- entrance requirements (e.g., the University of Medicine and
- Dentistry at New Jersey (Newark) expects that their applicants will
- be in the top five to ten percent of their class with a minimum
- combined SAT of 1400). Most schools require program students to
- take the MCAT during their junior year of college. Many require
- particular SAT II/Achievement tests, particularly those in chemistry
- and mathmatics.
-
- In essence, these programs are appropriate for the student who has
- already explored the field of medicine and is positive that it is
- appropriate for him. While admissions criteria vary widely, they
- all insist that the student be academically superior. As not all
- programs allow students to leave once they have matriculated into
- the program, the student must be sure that medicine is the right
- choice; those with any doubts are advised to consult their college
- or guidance counselor and consider applying to medical school
- "normally" in college if they then decide it is the correct choice.
-
- For more current information about combined college/MD programs,
- browse the Association of American Medical Colleges' web site at
- <http://www.aamc.org/students/applying/programs/collegemd.htm>.
- Students may also wish to read the AAMC's guide for high school
- students considering medical careers at
- <http://www.aamc.org/students/start.htm>.
-
- 3.11) What are combined MD/MPH and DO/MPH programs?
-
- MPH stands for Masters in Public Health. Public health is an
- interdisciplinary science of disease prevention. Physicians who
- work in public health are called preventive medicine specialists.
- The MPH is the professional degree for those interested in a career
- in public health or preventive medicine; MPH degree programs usually
- require approximately 50 additional semester hours of coursework in
- areas such as biostatistics, epidemiology, health behavior, and
- health economics. Many programs offer opportunities for
- specialization in areas such as toxicology, environmental health,
- epidemiology, and health administration.
-
- It is not uncommon for medical schools to offer dual degree programs
- for medical students seeking public health training. This may add
- an additional year or two onto medical school. Usually students in
- dual degree program complete the first two years of medical school
- and then proceed to their MPH work before finishing the last two
- years, though some break up school between the third and fourth
- years. Some programs allow students to take MPH classes in addition
- to their medical school classes to shorten the length of the
- program.
-
- For more information, see the web sites for the American College of
- Preventive Medicine <http://www.acpm.org> and the American Public
- Health Association <http://www.apha.org>.
-
- 3.12) Can you tell me about combined MD/MBA programs?
-
- Ten schools offer the combined MD/MBA program. They are: UCLA,
- U. of Chicago-Pritzker, U. of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign,
- Dartmouth, Wake Forest, Case Western, Allegheny, Jefferson, U of
- Pennsylvania, and Vanderbilt. This list of schools, with direct
- links to them, can be found at
- <http://www.aamc.org/students/applying/programs/mdmba.htm>. Many
- programs run as two years of medical school, one year of graduate
- (MBA) school, then a return to medical school for the final two
- years of medical curriculum and completion of MBA material, for a
- total of five years. However, there are variances in application
- processes and program details. For example, UCLA opens its program
- only to third-year UCLA medical students, who then take a year off
- for the MBA program and complete the MBA program during the fourth
- year of medical school. Application procedures vary by school, so
- your best bet is to contact the admissions department directly and
- ask for information on the program.
-
- 3.13) Can you tell me about combined MD/JD programs?
-
- Seven schools offer the combined MD/JD program. They are: Yale,
- U. of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign, U. of Chicago-Pritzker, Southern
- Illinois U., Duke, Penn, and West Virgina U. This list of schools,
- with direct links to them, can be found at
- <http://www.aamc.org/students/applying/programs/mdjd.htm>. Program
- details are highly variable. One common method of integrating the
- two programs is to have the student complete two years of medical
- school, two years of law school, then complete law school during the
- final two years of medical school for a total of six years.
- Applications are generally accepted both from first-time applicants
- and current students from each individual program; however, as
- always, the best information about a particular school can be
- obtained by contacting the school's admissions office.
-
- 3.14) What are PAs?
-
- Physician assistants, or PAs, provide medical care under the
- supervision of licensed physicians. For information regarding the
- PA profession and educational programs, see the web page of the
- American Academy of Physician Assistants (AAPA) at
- <http://www.aapa.org>. Another resource is the Usenet newsgroup
- alt.med.phys-assts.
-
- 3.15) Should I consider going to a foreign school?
-
- Attending a foreign medical school is a tricky situation. On the
- one hand, you have the opportunity of attending medical school and
- graduating with a M.D. degree, but on the other hand, your
- opportunities for practice in the U.S. are severely limited.
- Because of legislation, International Medical Graduates
- (IMGs)--students who obtain their M.D. outside the U.S.--are being
- scapegoated for the country's oversupply of physicians and their
- acceptance into U.S. residency training programs is being scaled
- back. This means that the IMG who does enter the US for residency
- training generally must score very high on the USMLE and the new
- Clinical Skills Assessment (CSA) examination, which is only
- administered to IMGs (cf 7.10, 7.11).
-
- The education may or may not be inferior, depending on the foreign
- school you wish to attend, but whatever the case, attending a
- foreign school is going to be expensive. Student aid from the
- U.S. may not be so easy to come by, and you may have to spend more
- time in school because of the difference in curricula. Take, for
- example, the system of medical education in Australia versus the
- United States. In the US, students go through four years of
- undergraduate college to earn a Bachelors degree and then go on for
- another four years in medical school for the medical degree. In
- Australia, students go into a medical program as high school
- graduates and earn a Bachelors in Medicine and a Bachelors in
- Surgery in six years. This means that a US college graduate who
- wishes to attend medical school in Australia will have to spend an
- additional two years because of the medical curriculum in Australia,
- which translates into higher costs.
-
- Think about your decision to apply to a foreign medical school
- carefully. Not all are reputable, and boasting a World Health
- Organization (WHO) listing is not at all impressive. Not all
- foreign medical schools offer a solid medical education, which of
- course does not preclude those that do. Speak to your premedical
- advisor and, if possible, any students at the schools that you
- consider.
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