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- From: mercymercymercy@nardis.com (Terry Chan)
- Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban,news.answers,alt.answers
- Subject: alt.folklore.urban Frequently Asked Questions [Part 1 of 5]
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- Date: 7 Feb 1997 06:57:55 GMT
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- 6 February 1997
-
- Official Usenet Alt.Folklore.Urban Frequently Posted Legends
-
- "I will set down a tale...it may be history it may
- be only a legend, a tradition. It may have
- happened, it may not have happened. But it could
- have happened..."
-
- -- Mark Twain [via Christopher Neufeld]
-
-
- TABLE OF CONTENTS TO THIS AND THE OTHER PARTS OF THE FAQ LIST
-
- Part 1 - Introduction to the newsgroup and the FAQ list.
- [This document]
-
- PART 2 - General administrative and other notes on urban
- legends (ULs) and the newsgroup (e.g., bait for
- for "trolling.".
-
- PART 3 - Major Categories of ULs Covered in the FAQ:
-
- PART 4 - Major Categories of ULs Covered in the FAQ
- (Continued)
-
- PART 5 - Credits and some references
-
-
- ===========================================================================
-
- 1. INTRODUCTION TO THE FAQ POSTINGS FOR AFU:
-
- The newsgroup alt.folklore.urban (AFU) is devoted to the
- discussion and debunking of urban legends and other related
- issues. This is Part I of the Frequently Asked Questions/
- Frequently Posted Legends list for AFU.
-
- Frequency:
- ----------
- The Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ) list for alt.folklore.urban
- is posted approximately twice a month to the alt.folklore.urban,
- news.answers, and alt.answers newsgroups with an expiration date
- approximately one month from the date of posting. If the FAQ is
- not available on AFU at your site, check the other newsgroups
- mentioned above.
-
- Anonymous FTP:
- --------------
- The five part FAQ for alt.folklore.urban is also available
- via anonymous ftp at rtfm.mit.edu. You can retrieve them by
- grabbing the following files:
-
- /pub/usenet/news.answers/folklore-faq/part1
- /pub/usenet/news.answers/folklore-faq/part2
- /pub/usenet/news.answers/folklore-faq/part3
- /pub/usenet/news.answers/folklore-faq/part4
- /pub/usenet/news.answers/folklore-faq/part5
-
- Or heck, just do:
-
- /pub/usenet/news.answers/folklore-faq/part*
-
-
- E-MAIL:
- ------
- If you do not have anonymous ftp access, rtfm.mit.edu can
- send the FAQ to you via email. Send an e-mail message to
- mail-server@rtfm.mit.edu, subject ignored, and the body
- containing:
-
- send usenet/news.answers/folklore-faq/*
-
-
- CATHOUSE:
- ---------
- The FAQ and various sundry information are also available via
- anonymous ftp from www.urbanlegends.com. Thanks to Jason
- Heimbaugh for making this happen.
-
-
- World-Wide Web
- --------------
-
- There is a HTML version of the FAQ at:
-
- http://www.cis.ohio-state.edu/hypertext/faq/usenet/folklore-faq/top.html
-
-
- Sean Willard has also done up a wonderful version of the FAQ which you
- with links to cathouse.org at:
-
- http://cathouse.org/UrbanLegends/AFUFAQ/
- http://galileo.desy.de/~sean/afu/ .
-
- For you folks in the Old World, check out Arthur Goldstruck's
- (South African, geddit?) site at http://www.legends.org.za/arthur.
-
-
- 2. INTRODUCTION TO THE NEWSGROUP AFU
-
- This is alt.folklore.urban -- the newsgroup where nonsense is revered
- as an artform, and debunking has been taken to new heights.
-
- The group has broadened its god-given mandate from a place for
- discussing urban legends (ULs) to a place for confirming or disproving
- beliefs and facts of all kinds, including origin of vernacular ("The
- whole nine yards", "Sniping like a bald giraffe"), common scientific
- fallacies, obscure points of history, stories of pranks, the location
- of Foucault's pendulums, Why "Space 1999" was better than "Star Trek:
- TOS," "What types of salmon are there?" and so on. In other words,
- it's a great place to get a reality check on anything that "a friend"
- told you, or to compare notes about odd things. Bear in mind though
- that the FAQ tries, in its own confused way, to focus more on UL
- relevant topics.
-
- As a result, you will find items in the classic urban legend mold
- (e.g., food contamination legends), as well as old wives tales, and
- other oddball facts, trivia, and stories.
-
- ===========================================================================
- An urban legend:
- * appears mysteriously and spreads spontaneously in varying
- forms,
- * contains elements of humor or horror (the horror often
- "punishes" someone who flouts society's conventions).
- * makes good storytelling.
- * does NOT have to be false, although most are. ULs often
- have a basis in fact, but it's their life after-the-fact
- (particularly in reference to the second and third points)
- that gives them particular interest.
- ===========================================================================
-
- Urban folklore is not restricted to events that supposedly
- happened in urban areas. As Jan Brunvand notes in _The Baby
- Train_, "... these stories reflect urban life and attitudes,
- even if they're not told told exclusively about things that
- supposedly happened in big cities.
-
- As far as etymology is concerned, Jan Brunvand credits the
- noted folklorist Richard Dorson with coining the term "urban
- legend" (after initially referring to them as "urban belief
- tales"). The first use of the term (by Dorson) that Brunvand
- has found was in a book of essays edited by Tristram Potter
- Coffin entitled _Our Living Traditions_ published in 1968.
-
-
- RELIGION AND URBAN LEGENDS
-
- Issues of religious faith per se, while occasionally
- fitting the mode of legends are not really appropriate for
- urban legend discussion. They involve a dimension beyond
- the immediate concerns of urban legends (though it may be
- reasonably argued that they arise out of the same sorts
- of human concerns). Similarly, issues of mythology (a la
- Joseph Campbell or Mircea Eliade, et al.) while potentially
- fascinating on their own merits, are not really relevant for
- discussion in an urban legends newsgroup either.
-
- To the extent their discussion sheds insights into popular
- urban legends, no problem. Otherwise, it really belongs in
- talk.religion.misc or some other newsgroup.
-
- Religion (of whatever stripe) is a significant and real
- institution in the lives of many peoples. As a result,
- it can and will give rise to urban legends and to this
- extent, its discussion is appropriate for AFU. The
- veracity of the institution is irrelevant since its
- influence is undeniable.
-
- You can argue the veracity of the tenets of any religion
- you want, however that argument doesn't belong in AFU.
-
- ===========================================================================
-
- The Frequently Asked Questions List has been maintained by Terry
- Chan since July 1991. Its inception and spirit was due to Peter
- van der Linden in February 1991.
-
- COPYRIGHT STUFF:
- ----------------
- Copyright (c) 1997, Terry Chan and Peter van der Linden.
- All Rights Reserved. Permission for personal, educational or non-
- profit use is granted provided this this copyright and notice are
- included in its entirety and remains unaltered. All other uses
- must receive prior permission in writing from both Terry Chan (at
- tchan@dante.lbl.gov or mercymercymercy@nardis.com) and Peter van
- der Linden (at linden@eng.sun.com).
-
- Licensing terms on request.
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