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- Subject: Wine (the beverage) FAQ, part4 of 10 [LONG]
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- Summary: A 10 part FAQ on the beverage wine with various asides
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- Flaws
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-
- Due to improper production, handling or storage, there are a fair amount
- of things that can go wrong with wine--most of which should be cause to
- return a wine if ordering in a restaurant. Some wine merchants will also
- take back a flawed wine, though I suspect only for their best customers.
-
- How often a wine is flawed turns out to be a controversial questions. Some
- people feel that 1 out of every 12 wines they consume is flawed.
- Personally, I don't find anywhere near that many wines to be a problem
- (but then I don't have the wherewithall to consume a lot of _really_ old
- wine).
-
- A good number of people, when faced with a bottle that doesn't seem right
- (or is just plain awful) will say that it is "corked." They have come to
- use the term as a catch-all for all flaws. So just what is a corked wine?
-
- _Corked Wine_
-
- To me corked wine has the flavor of wet, musty cardboard. Once you have
- really tasted a corked wine, you'll know what it is--it is not subtle. It
- is caused by trichloranisol [(TCA) 2,4,6], a compound released by molds
- that can infest the bark from which corks are made. One theory: you can't
- get TCA without chlorine, which is used to bleach corks (for aesthetic
- reasons). If corks aren't properly rinsed and dried this problem can occur.
-
- If you haven't been "lucky" enough to experience a corked wine (at least
- for educational purposes), apparently you can buy the odor of the stuff
- from enterprising entrepreneurs. One advertised business is: The Wine
- Trader, attn: "Corky," P.O. Box 1598, Carson City, Nevada 89702.
-
- _Other Flaws_
-
- While some people attribute all flawed bottles to being corked, there are
- a number of other things that can go wrong. A non-exhaustive list follows.
-
- + _Brettanomeyces(Brett)_. Earthy and/or manure type smells caused by
- the Brettanomeyces strain of yeast. Liked by some (for example particular
- French wines), disliked by many California vintners. In small amounts, can
- add "character" to a wine. Too much, and forget it.
- + _Dekkera._ Another wild-yeast caused flavor of fresh dirt or cement.
- Liked by some (for example in some Bordeaux, Burgundy, Rhone and Italian
- red wines), disliked by many California vintners. Dekkera can also come
- from contaminated equipment and barrels.
- + _Madeirized. _Wine subjected to oxygen or heat through poor storage
- which ends up tasting like Madeira or Sherry. No fruit flavor left.
- Off-color.
- + _Mercaptan._ Smells of garlic or onion or even of skunk. I'm told that
- this is much of the cause of the "foxy" flavor produced by grapes native
- to North America. It is said that the term "foxy" came about because there
- wines were often made from the Fox grape, where the flavor was first seen.
- + _Sulfur._ Burnt match smell caused by too much sulfur dioxide (used in
- the winemaking process) and rotten egg smells caused by hydrogen sulfide
- from bacterial contamination. Depending on what it is, it might go away if
- you air the wine for a while.
- + _Volatile Acidity._ Smells of vinegar. May go away if you air the wine
- for a while.
-
- There are long lists of flaws and descriptions in _*How to Test and
- Improve Your Wine Judging Ability*_ (see BOOKS section), and _*Elements of
- Wine Tasting*_ (American Wine Society Manual #11).
-
- Something that probably _isn't_ a flaw are tiny glass like crystals on the
- bottom of the cork (or sometimes in the wine). Assuming they really aren't
- glass from the winery, they probably the result of tartaric acid in the
- form of potassium bitartrate (cream of tartar). I'm told that this is
- tasteless and harmless. I've seem them and they haven't hurt me!
-
- A final note about flawed wines. If you are on good terms with the store
- or winery from whom you purchased the wine, they will often replace a
- bottle which is flawed. No harm in trying!
-
- Describing Wine
- --------------------------------------------------------------------------
-
- Lots of terms have come about on how to describe wine. When you hear them
- tossed about and you don't know anything about them, you can feel lost
- _and_ the people using them may sound more than a bit lofty. But after a
- while you'll find that you'll start using the terms too! I think I was
- just a little bit amazed the first time I said the wine I was drinking had
- a nice "nose!" And I used it correctly, too.
-
- The biggest point I wasn to make here is that you shouldn't let yourself
- get bogged down in the terms. Drink the wine. Enjoy it. Eventually you may
- search for a way to describe it and you might then find that these words
- are close to what you want to say!
-
- There are a lot more terms than what follows, but here's a sample to start:
-
- + Austere: The wine is kind of stiff or tight, sort of hard. Hard to
- tell other traits.
- + Balance: Describing the relationship between tannin, acid and alcohol.
- You want to drink a "well-balanced" wine.
- + Big: A strong, perhaps alcoholic wine. It is a good wine that can get
- better.
- + Buttery: A sort of smooth feel and taste, like butter. Most often seen
- in white wines which have undergone malolactic fermentation.
- + Dry: If sugar remains in the wine it is sweet. When it isn't sweet,
- its dry.
- + Flabby: A bland tasting wine that isn't going to get any bet-ter.
- + Grassy (or herbaceous): Smells like grass. Often seen in Sauvignon
- Blanc.
- + Hard: A wine that has a lot of tannin still in it, like a young fine
- red. The tannin keeps you from tasting the other qualities of the wine
- which will come out through maturation.
- + Nose: The totality of what you smell.
- + Thin: A watery sort of wine.
-
- I have been told that the book "Masterglass" by Jancis Robinson contains
- an excellent, unpretentious list of terms. There is a very large WWW
- glossary of wine terms at:
-
- http://metcon.met.co.nz/nwfc/beard/www/wine_glossary.html.
-
-
-
- The Ritualistic Art of Wine in a Restaurant and other Quibbles
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-
- Its one thing to learn about wine, buy it and drink it. Ah, but then comes
- the restaurant. There's all those _rules!_ Who do you talk to? How do you
- do it? What do you do when they stick the cork down in front of you. (And
- what happens when you're sure you want to drink a [geh-vertz-tra-MEEner],
- but can't pronounce it let alone, spell it?)
-
- The evening's fun starts with the wine list. If you're lucky they've
- brought it to you. If you're _very_ lucky, they've brought _all_ of them
- to you. [I can recall eating in one of the "best" restaurants in a capitol
- city of one of the United States. The waiter never mentioned that they had
- a "special" wine list with the "better" wines on it. He had only brought
- the short, less-expensive list of decent but not as fine wine. One wonders
- if they didn't intend to sell the good stuff? Maybe it was how I looked.]
-
- An informative wine list will tell you the type of wine, the producer of
- the wine, where it was grown (though with some wines, that is inherent in
- the name), and the vintage (year) that it was grown. Since there can be
- considerable variation in vintages (or the wine may be just too young),
- this is an important piece of information. If the wine list doesn't say,
- ask! If they won't tell you, have them bring the bottle and reject it if
- it doesn't suit your wants. Do not be seduced by the process. If they
- bring a much younger wine than is listed, odds are it isn't worth the
- price on the menu. Ask for a price reduction. If they won't, tell them to
- forget it. The best ammunition is to not buy any wine at all--most
- restaurants use it as a profit center.
-
- [OK, so I'll admit it. When we first started drinking wine in restaurants,
- we brought along a little pocketbook guide that told us what were good
- wines. We'd sneak a look at the guide, then confidently and boldly
- order--hoping that we got the pronunciation right.]
-
- Now lets say you don't know about the wines on the list (and haven't
- sneaked in your handy guide). Once again, ask. In a good restaurant, the
- waiters will have a good working knowledge of the "wine list." And in some
- restaurants (more in Europe than in the United States), there will be an
- individual (the wine steward or Sommelier) who's only job is to work with
- the wine. Often this person can be invaluable in choosing a wine for you
- that perfectly matches the food. A word of warning: Sometimes their job is
- to point out the most costly wine they think they can get you to pay for.
- I'm not saying this is the norm, but caveat emptor always applies.
-
- Personally, we decide on what we are having for dinner before we order the
- wine. This seems to perturb most waiters and wine stewards who always seem
- in a rush to have us order. While they _might_ be trying to do the right
- thing by getting the bottle opened as soon as possible, we're usually more
- interested in the food to start. The waiter can wait.
-
- If you have come to drink wine first and food second, then by all means,
- order the wine and then match the food to it. Frankly, however, we eat at
- restaurants for food. Wine is cheaper at home, _especially_ once you have
- started collecting it.
-
- When your wine comes, look at it. Make sure it's the bottle (and vintage)
- you ordered. Busy staff can and _do_ make mistakes. The server will remove
- the capsule (the wrapper on the top of the wine, which traditionally was
- made of lead foil but is giving way to supposedly less toxic materials
- like aluminum or even plastic--or least toxic--nothing at all). The top of
- the cork should be wiped off (it can be moldy or have other contaminants),
- then removed.
-
- The cork is usually then given to the person who ordered the wine. Why?
- What do you do? This is where some people start to squirm. Don't worry,
- there is a reason for this. And it even makes sense. Once you know the
- reason, you know what to do.
-
- So what's the reason? Alright, actually I've heard two equally plausible
- stories. Both sound correct, or at least useful. The first is that if you
- take the cork and sniff it you may note some off-smells. This can be your
- first indication that the wine has problems. If it is corked or has turned
- to vinegar, you'll not likely want to keep the wine. (There are other,
- sometimes more subtle things that can go wrong.) The second is the idea
- that someone between the winery and the consumer may figure that unknowing
- wine neophytes couldn't tell or wouldn't complain about a wine no matter
- what. So they _switch_ the wine by opening the bottle, replacing the good
- stuff with something cheaper and then re-cork it (I guess with a different
- cork). So the cork is shown to you so that you can see that it has the
- marking of the winery that produces the wine you ordered.
-
- Certainly you can check the cork to see if it is moldy (though usually you
- can spot this from a block away, and it doesn't necessarily mean that the
- wine is bad). You can see if it is moist. If it isn't it might mean the
- wine wasn't stored properly (but doesn't mean the wine isn't bad, so I
- don't know how this may help at this point). One wag recommends that as
- the cork is placed before you, you pull a cork out of your pocket and hand
- it to the server. The point being, I guess, that there is little
- usefulness in the cork ritual. Most people are going to sip it anyway.
- Some revel in the standoff of leaving the cork completely ignored and
- deciding if the server thinks you either imbecile or expert. Another wag
- relates the story of dining with a friend in an elegant restaurant. When
- the friend was presented with the cork, he ate it. A lot of people have
- written me to say they think the whole cork ritual is useless.
-
- The person who ordered will then be poured a small amount of the wine for
- tasting before drinking. If you smelled the cork, you may have a good idea
- if there is something wrong. Give it a small sip. If the wine is bad,
- there is no reason for you to drink it. Send it back. Most restaurants
- will accept back a bad wine gracefully. But . . . , one should not be
- hyper-critical. Many people will tell you that only 1 in a 1000 bottles is
- bad, others place it at 1 in 50. Some go so far as to say 1 in 12. Our
- personal experience is that it has been a *fairly* rare occurrence. _Do
- not_ send back a wine that "is good" but you don't like. You ordered it.
- The same applies to particularly older wines that you know darn well might
- not have survived. Though you _can_ distinguish this last by recognizing
- the difference between a bottle that has gone "over the hill" and one
- which is corked, oxidized or otherwise bad. You shouldn't have to pay a
- restaurant for something that is bad for reasons beyond your control.
-
- You probably have seen people "swirl" wine around in their glass. Is that
- another part of arcane ritual? Sure, but it also has a very good reason.
- Swirling releases the smells of the wine, which are very important to
- enjoying the full experience of drinking it. You can swirl the wine
- around, stick your nose in it, even suck it through your teeth. All these
- things "bring out" the wine. I _like_ to swirl, then sniff, then sip.
- Sometimes I manage not to swirl it onto the tablecloth, too. (See the
- section on glasses.)
-
- An interesting point was sent to me by a correspondent which I think is
- worthy of reproduction (almost) in full: "Incidentally, you don't usually
- need to taste a wine to tell it is off. The nose is enough. Just give the
- glass to the server and ask him what he thinks if you're not sure. Most
- aren't confident enough to assert that the wine _is_ OK to your face." And
- whether they are knowledgeable enough or not, "turning the initial tasting
- from confrontation to discussion will probably improve your chances of
- getting good wine."
-
- Check out the discussion on what temperature a wine should be when served.
- There's nothing that should keep you from insisting that a restaurant do
- the same for you what you would do at home. That's what ice buckets are
- for. I've been in plenty of "fancy" restaurants that have brought out a
- fine red wine at 70 degrees or so, Fahrenheit. Yuck.
-
- I have learned not to have any compunctions about making it quite clear
- how I want to drink wine in a restaurant. It is a fact, of course, that
- I'm paying for it. One particularly expensive San Francisco establishment
- that supposedly prides itself on its wine list sent out a red wine that
- was clearly too warm. As I mentioned above, there are way to deal with
- this, if you want to. When the waiter was informed that we wanted the wine
- cooled, he looked at us like we were the idiots we apparently were, told
- us that he certainly wouldn't want the wine to "close up" and was
- generally nasty. When I asked him just what temperature the wine had been
- stored at, he came up with 50 degrees Fahrenheit. Now this is about 5
- degrees too cold (on average) of what the "perfect" cellar temperature
- would be (and I would expect perfection from this place.) Since it was
- clearly not that cold and was, in fact, too warm, we decided that we
- besides believing in the strength of our convictions, we would never again
- visit this establishment. We insisted on what we wanted and made sure his
- tip represented our displeasure.
-
- Another poor restaurant practice is the one of overfilling the glass. I
- haven't yet figured out if the majority of these errors are due to
- unskilled servers or from training designed to move a greater volume of
- wine through the cash register. Perhaps they don't want me to pour the
- wine since I'll probably stain the tablecloth with drops of red wine (and
- I do). Maitre d's and servers scurry to my table in horror when I pick up
- the bottle. I have found, however, that there are very few restaurants
- that know how to keep a perfect fill level in a glass and that I am
- willing to risk their wrath and insist that I pour my own. Just by way of
- contrast to the prior restaurant horror story, I can say that there are
- some places that do know what they are doing. A very good restaurant,
- associated with a winery, in California's Napa Valley not only kept the
- fill level at just exactly the right level throughout my meal, they did it
- without my even noticing. A rare treat, in my experience.
-
- Restaurant Pricing
- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
-
- For many years and in many places, the cost of wine has been a standard
- mark-up of the retail cost, say two to three times retail. But in many
- cases a restaurant probably isn't paying retail--in fact, the price to
- them is often less to much less than what it would cost you at the winery.
- The huge mark-ups paid by the customer are an incredible amount to pay for
- wine and often means that there is more profit in the wine than in all the
- other food combined. Certainly if the restaurant can get customers to pay
- such inflated prices (and perhaps by doing so subsidize their otherwise
- perhaps fine cuisine), then so be it.
-
- But personally I think that it is time to not give in. There are several
- ways to go about this:
-
- + _Learn the better buys._ For example, where I live, (Red) Zinfandel is
- not nearly in as much demand as Cabernet Sauvignon. The bargains are
- better (and I like it anyhow). Lesser known wines may be just as good or
- better than the more expensive "name" brands.
-
-
- + _Some restaurants_ (as limited by local law) who are not allowed to
- sell wine may allow you to bring your own. It would be a good idea to ask
- for details before showing up, however.
-
-
- + Some restaurants (as limited by local law) will allow you to bring
- your own (even if they have a wine list) and charge you a "_corkage_"
- charge for the privilege. If you have some special wines at home, the
- corkage charge is rarely going to come close to the cost of the same wine,
- were it on the wine list. Note that it is bad form to bring a wine that is
- on the wine list. At least one Internet poster claimed that there was not
- a "single true gourmet restaurant in New York, Boston, or Washington"
- which allows customers to bring their own wine. While I'm willing to doubt
- the statement, I know for a fact that this just plain not true in Southern
- California. In any event, it would be a good idea to ask for details
- before showing up, however.
-
-
- + _Boycott the restaurant _(or boycott buying wine in the restaurant).
- When doing this is probably will have a much better effect if you let the
- restaurant know what you are doing.
- Some restauranteurs are truly devoted to a fine evening at prices that are
- not horrendous mark-ups. The meal may not be inexpensive for fine
- ingredients are expensive, but the mark-up over cost is certainly not
- fixed. There is something to be said for the cost of cellaring the wine
- (and keeping good glassware--which breaks--to serve it in). Also, local
- laws may mean that the restaurant isn't necessarily paying anything less
- than retail. However, there are enough fine restaurants in this world that
- one should seek out and promote the ones who are willing to present a fine
- meal without gouging. In so doing, they will do even more business and
- will "make up," at least to some degree, profits "lost" from not
- over-charging on the wine.
-
- Some will ask: "how much is gouging?" I don't have an answer for that. But
- I can tell you that one local restauranteur (in one of the best
- restaurants in California) would rarely add more than a fixed amount (say
- $8 for the more expensive wines) over what he paid. Not a fixed
- percentage, merely an amount that was about the same as his corkage fee
- (and less for the less expensive wines). It seemed fair to me.
-
- And speaking of gouging, what is a fair corkage? Well, just what is the
- corkage for, anyhow? I said above that perhaps corkage covers the cost of
- serving since the glass gets dirty or can break. But then, everything else
- gets dirty including the spoons I don't use because I don't order dessert
- or coffee. Well, alright, glassware *might* be more expensive. Persuasive?
- Then there is the cost of storing wine. If people kept bringing their own
- wine, storage costs would go up, since you would have less room. But then
- you wouldn't need to buy more wine if you had a good idea of how much you
- needed, and the wine you stored would go up in value as it aged (except
- for wines that eventually go bad). Knowing how much to buy and how much of
- what is the key. Pesuasive? Corkage can be the way the restaurant makes
- the profit it isn't getting when you don't but their marked-up wine. But
- you don't have to drink any wine. Persuasive? Finally, perhaps corkage is
- the way the restaurant discourages you from bring you own wine. I've noted
- the price of corkage going up of late. At least one restaurant raised its
- corkage because it was trying to bring them in-line with the more
- expensive, fancier places. Does this tell you anything about what corkage
- is about? There is nothing that says you can't negotiate with a
- restaurant. If you are a good customer and you make it clear that you will
- either take your business elsewhere (or perhaps worse for them), come and
- not buy wine, then their idea of what they want to charge may change. It
- is all business and you as the customer may, in at least some situations,
- have more control than you think.
-
- There are those that like to bring up the mark-up on carbonated beverages
- (where it is oft stated that the cost of the container is higher than the
- cost of the liquid itself--and in any event can be measured in pennies).
- It is said that if you don't complain about that outrageous mark-up you
- have no right to complain about wine mark-ups. Personally, I won't order
- carbonated drinks for that reason. In any event, I don't buy the argument,
- however. $1 is a lot more affordable than $50.
-
- While restaurants are in business (and it can be a very risky business) to
- make money, some restaurants are willing to charge less. There are those
- who make cogent arguments that high prices for wine are merely the way
- that a restaurant can stay in business--and they are entitled to make as
- much as then can. But I am friendly with enough restauranteurs (and good
- ones, for that matter) who feel that a more reasonably priced wine list is
- part of the way that they want to do business. For that reason, I spend
- more in such places overall. I'll usually leave the over-priced places to
- those who are willing to pay.
-
- Supply and demand is controlled by the buyer. A restaurant which puts
- emphasis on a good and fairly-priced wine list may find that it will
- attract a great deal more customers. We, the wine-buying public, should
- seek out such establishments and prove it.
-
- One interesting sidelight to this discussion: It has nothing to do with
- those restaurants who cater to people who have all the money in the
- world--and act like it. I doubt I would be comfortable in such a place.
- Well, I know I'm not, having tried a few--and I don't think wanted me
- there, either.
-
- --
-
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