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- Subject: Irish FAQ: Politics [4/10]
- Summary: the peculiarities of Irish politics
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- Part four of ten.
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- Frequently Asked Questions on soc.culture.irish with answers.
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- Politics
-
- 1) What should I call it?
- 2) What should I call them?
- 3) Doesn't the Irish constitution lay claim to Northern Ireland?
- 4) What's special about elections in the Republic?
- 5) What are the political parties in the Republic?
- 6) What are the political parties in Northern Ireland?
- 7) Isn't contraception illegal in the Republic?
- 8) What about D.I.V.O.R.C.E. ?
- 9) Can anybody explain the abortion referendum?
- 10) Wasn't homosexuality banned in Ireland?
- 11) Where can I find the text of the Northern Ireland Peace Agreement?
-
-
- ----------------------------------------------------------------------
-
- Subject: 1) What should I call it?
-
- The island is called Ireland, but it is divided into two
- jurisdictions. Northern Ireland is part of the United Kingdom,
- governed from London. The remainder of the island is a separate
- state, the Republic of Ireland, with its government in Dublin.
-
- The Constitution of Ireland (Bunreacht na hEireann) states in
- Article 4. "The name of the State is ╔ire, or in the English
- language, Ireland". Some people find the use of "╔ire" or
- (worse) "Eire" in English irritating, but not everyone.
-
- "Ireland" is ambiguous: it may refer to the island or to the
- part governed from Dublin. You may want to say "the island of
- Ireland" to avoid this ambiguity.
-
- The following are synonyms in common usage. Some of these terms
- are politically loaded: the first in each list is the best
- choice if you want to make yourself clear (without committing
- yourself to a particular political view).
-
- Northern Ireland; Ulster; the North; the Six Counties
-
- Republic of Ireland; Ireland; the South; the Twenty Six
- Counties; the Free State
-
-
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Subject: 2) What should I call them?
-
- Nationalists north or south are generally content to be called
- Irish. Unionists may prefer to be called "British", "Ulster-
- men/women", just "from Northern Ireland" or even "Irish" (if
- they are on their way to a rugby international). If you are
- asking someone, "from Northern Ireland" is probably safest:
- you let them choose to elaborate if they want to.
-
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Subject: 3) Doesn't the Irish constitution lay claim to Northern Ireland?
-
-
- Before the Northern Ireland Settlement of 1998, Articles 2 and
- 3 in the Republic's Constitution did claim the North as part
- of Ireland (though they meant little in practice). If and
- when the Agreement is deemed effective by the government the
- amended Articles will read as follows. [The referendum put
- the changes in Article 29, a traditional repository for all
- kinds of constitutional changes affecting international
- relations, usually of the form "the State may ratify...".]
-
- Article 2
-
- It is the entitlement and birthright of every person born in
- the island of Ireland, which includes its islands and seas,
- to be part of the Irish nation. That is also the entitlement
- of all persons otherwise qualified in accordance with law
- to be citizens of Ireland. Furthermore, the Irish nation
- cherishes its special affinity with people of Irish ancestry
- living abroad who share its cultural identity and heritage.
-
- Article 3
-
-
- 1. It is the firm will of the Irish nation, in harmony and
- friendship, to unite all the people who share the territory of
- the island of Ireland, in all the diversity of their identities
- and traditions, recognising that a united Ireland shall be
- brought about only by peaceful means with the consent of a
- majority of the people, democratically expressed, in both
- jurisdictions in the island. Until then, the laws enacted by
- the Parliament established by this Constitution shall have
- the like area and extent of application as the laws enacted
- by the Parliament that existed immediately before the coming
- into operation of this Constitution.
-
- 2. Institutions with executive powers and functions that
- are shared between those jurisdictions may be established by
- their respective responsible authorities for stated purposes
- and may exercise powers and functions in respect of all or
- any part of the island.
-
- See also the definitive Irish version at
- http://www.enteract.com/~cpm/irish-faq/naisiun.html
-
-
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Subject: 4) What's special about elections in the Republic?
-
-
- A slightly unusual form of proportional representation, known
- as the single transferable vote (STV), is used for elections
- to the Dßil. There is more than one seat in a constituency
- and voters indicate their candidates in order of preference by
- putting a number next to their name on the ballot ("1" for the
- favourite candidate, "2" for the next favoured, etc.).
-
- A quota is established for each constituency when the votes
- are counted. This quota is calculated as follows.
-
- Let V be the number of valid votes.
- Let S be the number of seats in the constituency.
- The quota Q is
-
- V
- ----- + 1
- S+1
-
-
- If there were 60,000 votes in a three seat constituency the
- quota would be ((60000 / 4) + 1) = 15,001 votes.
-
- Counts are divided into rounds. In the first round, all
- first preferences are counted. At the end of each round, the
- votes to be counted during the next round are determined as
- follows
-
- - if one or more candidates receive the quota of votes they are
- deemed elected; the surplus votes of the most popular candidate
- are redistributed among the remaining (unelected) candidates
- according to the next preference
-
- - if no candidate has reached the quota, the candidate with
- the least number of votes is eliminated and his votes are
- redistributed among the remaining candidates according to the
- next preference
-
- Rounds are repeated until either all the seats are filled or the
- number of vacant seats equals the number of remaining candidates.
- In the latter case, the remaining candidates are deemed elected
- even though they got less than the quota of votes.
-
- If a candidate exceeds the quota on the first count, the excess
- votes are distributed in proportion to _all_ the votes for that
- candidate (i.e. the second preferences on all the ballots are
- counted). The actual votes transferred are chosen at random
- (obviously making sure that they are for the appropriate
- candidate).
-
- On subsequent rounds, the votes are chosen at random _without_
- first counting all the next preferences. Transferred votes are
- transferred again before first preferences.
-
- Because counting is a more complicated process than in most other
- countries, it takes longer. Counting is not even started until
- the day after the election and can go on for days if candidates
- demand a recount. Most political parties have experts, called
- tally men, who (using local knowledge and years of experience)
- try to predict early on in the count what the result is going
- to be. A good tally man can tell the outcome to within a few
- hundred votes after only a few ballot boxes have been counted.
-
- The first-past-the-post system is used in Northern Ireland, except
- for elections to local councils and the European Parliament,
- when a slightly different form of proportional STV is used.
-
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Subject: 5) What are the political parties in the Republic?
-
- The political parties represented in the Dßil and
- their current leaders are
-
-
- Fianna Fßil Bertie Ahern
- http://www.fiannafail.ie/
-
- Fine Gael John Bruton
- http://www.finegael.com/
-
- Labour Party Ruairi Quinn
- http://www.labour.ie/
-
- Progressive Democrats Mary Harney
- http://ireland.iol.ie/pd/
-
- Green Party [unknown -- maybe no leader as such?]
- http://www.imsgrp.com/greenparty/
-
- Sinn FΘin Gerry Adams
- http://sinnfein.ie/
-
-
-
- [ This ignores the niceties of what is required to get the
- privileges (offices, staff allowances ) of a party in the Dßil. ]
- [ There are currently also seven independent TDs. ]
-
- The most recent election results are from the General Election
- of 6 June 1997.
-
- Representation in Parliament
-
-
- Fianna Fßil 77 seats
- Fine Gael 54 seats
- Labour 21 seats
- Progressive Democrats 4 seats
- Green Party 2 seats
- Sinn FΘin 1 seats
- Socialist 1 seats
- Independent 7 seats
-
-
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Subject: 6) What are the political parties in Northern Ireland?
-
-
- Within the two main groups are a number of smaller divisions,
- usually defined by their representative political parties. This
- list offers a spectrum of the major parties, from 'most
- anti-Union' to 'most pro-Union".
-
-
- Sinn FΘin. Leader Gerry Adams.
- The political representatives of the Republican
- Movement. This is the more extreme minority of the nationalist
- groups, generally regarded as being in sympathy with the IRA's
- use of violence to achieve political change. Supported by
- approximately 15% of the population in Northern Ireland, 1.4% in
- the Irish Republic.
- http://www.irlnet.com/sinnfein/
-
-
- The Social Democratic and Labour Party (SDLP). Leader John Hume.
- Regarded as the representative of moderate nationalism, it is
- committed to the establishment of a single Irish nation, but
- adamantly opposed to the use of violence to force this on people.
- Its representatives are forthright in their criticism of the
- IRA and its methods. Supported by approximately 20% of the
- population in NI.
- http://www.sdlp.ie/
-
-
- The Alliance party. Leader Sean Neeson (to be confirmed).
- A centrist party often viewed as unionist in its leanings, but
- its stated aims are simply to bring people in NI together as one
- community. Rejects both traditional Unionism and Nationalism.
- It favours local government with power shared between Catholics
- and Protestants, remaining part of the UK as long as a majority
- in NI want that, but with much stronger all-Ireland administrative
- links. Gets up to 10% of the vote.
- http://www.allianceparty.org/
-
-
- The Ulster Unionist Party (UUP). Leader David Trimble.
- The larger of the two Unionist parties, it is firmly committed to
- maintaining the links with Great Britain. Not overtly religious in
- nature, but has links with the protestant Orange Order. Drawing
- support mainly from more moderate and middle-class unionists it
- opposes the use of violence, condemning that from both IRA and
- Loyalist groups such as the UVF and UFF. Gets up to one third
- of the vote.
- http://www.uup.org/
-
-
- The Democratic Unionist Party (DUP). Leader Ian Paisley.
- Formed in 1971 by Ian Paisley, capitalising on fears that
- the mainstream party was weak. As to be expected from
- its fundamentalist leader, the DUP is fiercely protestant
- and pro-British in character. It draws support from the
- moderate-to-extreme parts of the unionist population. Although
- publicly opposed to violence, the same cannot be said for a
- section of its supporters. Gets around 15% of the vote.
- http://www.dup.org.uk/
-
-
- The Women's Coalition is a fairly new name in Northern Irish
- politics. A web page can be found at
- http://www.pitt.edu/~novosel/northern.html
-
- Observant readers will notice that these percentages do not add
- up to 100.
-
- For more details, see Nicholas Whyte's web site
- at http://explorers.whyte.com/
-
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Subject: 7) Isn't contraception illegal in the Republic?
-
-
-
- There are no longer laws against any form of contraception
- in the Republic of Ireland, apart from the RU-486 abortion
- pill that is also banned in the UK. Ten years ago condoms
- weren't available to under anybody under 16. Now, possibly
- as a result of AIDS, these laws restricting contraceptives
- have been repealed. Condom machines are now commonplace
- in bars throughout the country.
-
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Subject: 8) What about D.I.V.O.R.C.E. ?
-
-
- The Constitution was amended by a referendum in November 1995 to
- allow divorce in restricted circumstances. The people voted to
- put the following sections into the Constitution.
-
- "A Court designated by law may grant a dissolution of marriage
- where, but only where, it is satisfied that:
-
- i. at the date of the institution of the proceedings, the
- spouses have lived apart from one another for a period
- of, or periods amounting to, at least four years during
- the last five years,
-
- ii. there is no reasonable prospect of reconciliation
- between the spouses,
-
- iii. such provision as the Court considers proper having
- regard to the circumstances exists or will be made
- for the spouses, any children of either or both of
- them and any other person prescribed by law, and
-
- iv. any further conditions prescribed by law are
- complied with."
-
- The petition by submitted by the Anti-Divorce Campaign to the
- Supreme Court challenging the result of the referendum was
- rejected by the Court in June 1996.
-
- Legislation passed by the Oireachtas to regulate divorce came
- into effect in March 1997. The legislation builds on existing
- family law.
-
-
-
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Subject: 9) Can anybody explain the abortion referendum?
-
-
- [Note: As recommended in the "Welcome to talk.abortion"
- posting, I am referring to the sides as prolife and
- prochoice. This is not intended in anyway to reflect my
- personal feelings on the use of these terms.]
-
- Abortion has been illegal in Ireland since at least
- 1869. The 1983 referendum added a clause which
- guarantees the "Right to Life" to the Unborn from the
- moment of conception. The general consensus among the
- prolife campaigners was that there was now a
- constitutional prohibition on abortion, and abortion
- would never be introduced into Ireland.
-
- It was then illegal to give out names and addresses of
- abortion clinics in Ireland. As a result no imported
- magazines or newspapers were allowed to sell issues
- which advertised abortion clinics.
-
- In 1992, the Attorney General placed an injunction
- against a 14-year-old rape victim (Ms. X) going to
- England to have an abortion. The family of rape victim X
- had approached the police and offered to let the aborted
- foetus be used as evidence against the rapist. Police
- then approached the Attorney General who went to the
- High Court as allowing X to go abroad would breach the
- "Right to Life" of X's foetus. The High Court then
- granted the injunction.
-
- In a state of near national hysteria, the Supreme Court
- overturned the ruling, and declared that under the 1983
- amendment, Ms. X was entitled to have an abortion in
- Ireland as she was threatening to commit suicide. The
- preliminary verdict was given on Friday, X went to the
- UK that weekend to have an abortion but miscarried
- before the abortion actually took place. The full
- ruling followed on Tuesday suggesting that X has a right
- to have an abortion in Ireland.
-
- The government moved fairly quickly, and a second
- referendum was held in November 1992, at the same time
- as a General election. The referendum posed three
- questions, dealing with the Right to travel, the Right
- to information and the Substantive Issue (are abortions
- ever allowed in Ireland?). While people voted for the
- right to information and the right to travel, the
- results from the vote on the Substantive issue were less
- conclusive, with both sides claiming victory. However,
- the government failed to legislate on the basis of the
- ruling in X.
-
- The government's case was not helped by the Irish Medical
- Council ruling that any doctor who performs an abortion
- should be struck off the register, a decision later
- endorsed by the Irish Medical Organisation. The majority
- of the IMO regard abortion as unnecessary for
- life-saving reasons and doctors can be struck off. The
- Medical Insurance companies (for doctors) believe
- failure to perform abortion in life threatening
- circumstance could result in negligence charges.
-
- The whole situation is desperately confused and no one
- knows under what circumstances abortion is legal or illegal.
- No government has been eager to introduce laws to regulate
- abortion, despite repeated criticisms of the current
- situation by the judiciary. Women who want abortions
- usually go to England, often without the knowledge of
- their families.
-
- [Note: Abortion is technically legal in the North,
- but rarely carried out.]
-
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Subject: 10) Wasn't homosexuality banned in Ireland?
-
-
- Homosexual acts were illegal in Ireland up until the summer of
- 1993. The Offences against the Person Act lifted the ban, and
- declared the age of consent to be 17, the same as that for
- acts between heterosexuals.
-
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Subject: 11) Where can I find the text of the Northern Ireland Peace Agreement?
-
- The "Good Friday Agreement" of 1998 is available in hypertext form at
-
- http://www.nio.gov.uk/agreement.htm
-
- ------------------------------
-
- End of Irish FAQ part 4
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