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From: faq@gdead.berkeley.edu Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead Subject: rec.music.gdead FAQ, pt. 1 of 2 Grateful Dead Frequently Asked Questions, pt.1 of 2 [Last update: December 15, 2003] [Updated sections are marked with a * in the TOC and a brief] [desc. of the update appears below the TOC.] ************************************************************************* Disclaimer: The information found in this document is for informational purposes only, and should only be distributed freely and in it's entirety. Nothing in this document is officially sanctioned by or affiliated with the Grateful Dead, GDP, GDM, etc. Their *is* some info on the GDH, GDTS, DeadBase etc., but it's all information that is freely available. Please do not use or apply this information for commercial gain, political repression, drug enforcement, or other unkind schemes. Thank ye. ************************************************************************* ***Please note that this FAQ is split into two sections*** This article includes answers to: 1) What are the Official Grateful Dead Hotline numbers? 2) How do I order tickets by mail? 3) How did the Grateful Dead get their name? 4) How did Jerry lose his finger ? 5) Where did the Dancing Bears come from? 6) What is a Tape Tree and how does it work? 7) Who makes the Net-Head T-shirts and how do I get one? *8) What is Dead-Flames? 9) What is the Well? 10) What is DeadBase and how do I get one? 11) What is that weird thing that Mickey played during Space? 12) Which are some classic shows for tape collectors? If you're looking for the answer to, say, question 10, and want to skip everything else, you can search ahead for the regular expression "^10)". If you have suggestions or corrections for any of these answers, please send them to faq@gdead.berkeley.edu * Updates: 8) dead-flames email gateway to USENET rec.music.gdead was retired December 19, 2008. 1) What are the Official Grateful Dead Hotline numbers? ---------------------------------------------------- West Coast: 415-457-6388 Mail Order: 415-457-TIKS East Coast: 973-SHIPS00 415-457-8457 973-744-7700 Ticket Problems: 415-457-8034 M-F 11am - 5pm PST Merchandise Info: 415-898-4453 To order merchandise: 800-CAL-DEAD or 800-323-2300 GDM Customer Service 800-499-3998 Additional GD Organization Info: Grateful Dead Productions PO Box 1073 San Rafael CA 94915 Rex Foundation P.O. Box 2204 San Anselmo CA 94979 2) How do I order tickets by mail? ------------------------------- The Grateful Dead Ticket Service (GDTS) was set up for ordering Grateful Dead tickets direct by mail, bypassing the monopolized TicketMaster. Their is info about GDTS Too at the end of this section. "After four months of heartfelt consideration, the remaining members of the band met December 8th (1995), and came to the conclusion that the "long strange trip" of the uniquely wonderful beast known as the "Grateful Dead" is over. Although individually and in various combinations they will undoubtedly continue to make music, whatever the future holds will be something different in name and structure." "While we won't be playing under the name "Grateful Dead," we're still going to be plenty busy in 1996." Here's how things used to work... Basically when the Dead had a Spring, Summer, and Fall tour run, as well as assorted other concerts (though these are usually in California). Approximately two months before each tour, GDTS would announce on the hotline [see #1] the shows and their mail order dates. Each tour may have be broken up into several different mail order dates for different shows. This fragmentation was done so GDTS can process the thousands of requests over a period of time. Typically, the hotline message was four days before the actual mail order date, meaning you have four days to get your order (and money!) together. For Spring Tour 1993, part I was announced on December 23, and the mail order date was December 28, 1992; Part II was announced December 23, with its mail order date January 11, 1993. GDTS mail orders were processed on a first come, first served basis by the date your order was POSTMARKED. However, if there were more postmarked orders for the first mail order date than tickets, GDTS would collect all those ticket orders and employ a random selection process for filling orders. The key here was to get your mail order postmarked on the first day of mail order for the show you want. For example, if the mail order date was December 28, it would be best to go to your post office and have a postal employee hand postmark your order on that day. Remember: it's illegal for the post office to postmark any date other than the current day. The instructions for mail order are described below. I cannot stress enough to EXACTLY follow the instructions: if your order is wrong in any way, you WON'T get your tickets, unless someone at GDTS is feeling charitable that day. **Example: Joe Deadhead wants to order two tickets to all shows for the Knickerbocker in Albany, New York. The spring dates are for March 27, 28, and 29. Items needed: -Two #10 envelopes (a #10 envelope is otherwise known as a legal-size business envelope, and measures approx. 4-1/4" x 9-1/2", why its called a #10 is apparently a mystery.) -One 3x5 Index Card. -At least one US Postal or American Express Money Orders. -At least two US Stamps= $0.32/per 0) Inside #10 envelope addressed to you. This is the envelope that your tickets will be mailed back to you in. Do not put any information on the outside of this envelope other than your name and the address your tickets are to be mailed to, and the necessary postage. 0) Outside #10 envelope, addressed to GDTS. Inside the #10 envelope: 1) 3x5 Index card 2) Money order for tickets [and registered mail fee] 3) #10 return envelope for tickets Please include your name, return address, the dates and # of tickets for each on the OUTSIDE of your order. The address to send your order to is: Grateful Dead Ticket Sales - Name of Concert P.O. Box C-S 81x0 (x is usually a 5 or a 9) San Rafael, CA 94912 this address occasionally changes, always confirm it before ordering, by calling the mail order hotline (415) 457-8457. Example #10 outer envelope: --------------------------- Joe Deadhead (Postage Stamp) 12345 Terrapin Way Big River, TN 01812 Grateful Dead Ticket Sales - Knickerbocker [2-3/27, 2-3/28, 2-3/29] P.O. Box C-S 8190 San Rafael, CA 94912 1) Index Card: A 3x5 index card-NOT PAPER!-, any other size will not fit in our files and may get lost. On this 3x5 card, write in the upper left hand corner: Your FULL NAME Your Address Your Area Code and Phone Number Work number (optional) In the middle of the card, put how many for which date. Put your ticket request by preference: -if you want tapers tickets make sure to write TAPER next to you request -Specify GENERAL ADMISSION or RESERVED SEATING if this option is available, or; -ANYTHING AVAILABLE- as your last preference is the best way to ensure that you get something instead of nothing. Example 3x5 Index card: ----------------------- Joe Deadhead 12345 Terrapin Way Big River, TN 01812 H - (325) 458-0989 W - (325) 466-0954 Albany 3/27 - 2 tickets @ 27.50 = $ 55.00 Albany 3/28 - 2 tickets @ 27.50 = $ 55.00 Albany 3/29 - 2 tickets @ 27.50 = $ 55.00 (TAPER/GA/RES/ANYTHING AVAILABLE) registered mail = $ 6.75 -------- $171.75 enclosed Note that if you don't want to be so verbose that it is OK to just specify the tickets and preferences and not the math part. 2) Payment. Total up all your tickets. GDTS recommends you have your tickets sent back via registered mail. GDTS will take care of the registered mail: all you need to do is include the registered mail cost of $6.75 in your money order. GDTS will ONLY accept either a US POST OFFICE or AMERICAN EXPRESS money order. NO OTHER MONEY ORDERS WILL BE ACCEPTED!! Make payable to: GRATEFUL DEAD TICKET SALES-CONCERT NAME for the exact amount. Make sure your name and address are on the money order. Keep your receipt!! If your order is not filled, your payment will be returned to you. No personal checks or cash EVER!! Note that the total amount on the postal money order MUST BE EXACT! Since the ticket office may receive more requests than there are tickets, correct requests will be processed first, and you may miss out. Numerous rejections have occurred due to errors like incorrect dollar amount, no stamps, etc. Example: -------- Joe wants two tickets to each Albany show, and each Albany ticket is $27.50. The registered mail fee is $6.75. Payment = ( 6 tickets * $27.50 ) + ( 6.75 Registered Mail fee ) = 165.00 + 6.75 = 171.75 Make out money order to GRATEFUL DEAD TICKET SALES - ALBANY for $171.75, with Joe's name and address. Joe keeps the receipt. **** CANADIAN MAIL ORDER ADDITIONAL INSTRUCTIONS **** If you are ordering from Canada, here are some helpful instructions: Ticket prices are the same, of course, only in US dollars. There is only one option for canadian orders: canadian postal money orders in u.s. currency. THERE IS NO OTHER ACCEPTED FORM OF PAYMENT (i.e., no american express money orders as is ok in the u.s.). Have your mail hand-stamped by the canadian postal workers. Instead of putting stamps on your return envelope (SASE), enclose with your SASE an international postal coupon. I've been told that GDTS will accept one of these as equivalent to one u.s. first class postage stamp. Be sure to add the equivalent additional amount in coupons if you are ordering more than 8 tickets. Since your mail is passing through two postal and border systems IT IS HIGHLY RECOMMENDED THAT YOU REGISTER YOUR MAIL. The price is the same as for american orders ($6.75); just add this amount to your canadian money order. Finally, your order will take a little longer than an american order because of the border and postal issues, but it does work! [Thanks to joseph muller - JMULLER@SSCvax.CIS.McMaster.CA] 3) #10 Return Envelope: Include a #10 sized self-addressed, stamped envelope for your tickets. This envelope can be folded in 3 to fit in the outside envelope. Please do NOT decorate your return envelope with Grateful Dead art or mention of tickets: it only invites theft (e.g. - Tickets Enclosed). GDTS loves and displays the artistic and colorful incoming order envelopes!!! Return Postage: $.32 for 1-8 tix $.55 for 9-16 tix Do not add extra postage. Remember: the registered mail fee does NOT include postage, so you must put a stamp on your return envelope. Example #10 return envelope: ---------------------------- [Note: No address for GDTS. (Postage Stamp) They have a stamper.] Joe Deadhead 12345 Terrapin Way Big River, TN 01812 Other Rules: One order per envelope and one order per person. Each person must fill out their own order. Duplicate orders of any kind will cause disqualification of all involved orders. For example, if 3 concerts are announced in the same venue, you may order the max. number of tickets to all 3 concerts in one envelope, unless GDTS states otherwise. Mixed orders or orders for more than one city in one envelope will not be accepted. All orders will be filled on a "first come, first served" basis by date postmark, NOT by when GDTS receives them. NO METERED MAIL, EXPRESS MAIL, OR FEDERAL EXPRESS ACCEPTED!! Make sure your envelopes are stamped. Postal employees may by habit meter your mail if you don't watch them. Express Mail and Federal Express are never accepted and are a waste of your money. If GDTS decides to do a random selection mail order, they will announce it on the hotline before hand. If GDTS receives more mail postmarked the first day than they have tickets for, then the mail order automatically changes to random selection. The mail order hotline (415) 457-8457 will give the correct information and address to mail for tickets. Do not use any other address or your request will not be filled!! If the hotline instructions are different from the above, then always follow the hotline instructions or your order may be rejected. Please write to GDTS with any suggestions, problems, praise or complaints at: Grateful Dead Ticket Sales P.O. Box 9812 San Rafael, CA 94912 DON'T SEND TICKET REQUESTS TO THE ABOVE ADDRESS, THEY WILL BE RETURNED! [P.S. Notification from GDTS, be it tix or a rejection notice, almost always comes before tix actually go on-sale at a local outlet. If ya find yourself still waiting to hear and the on-sale date is fast approaching, say 4-5 days away, don't panic, just give 'em a ring at the ticket problem # listed above in question 1. They're usu. very helpful if it comes to that.] 3) How did they get the name? -------------------------- In Blair Jackson's book on the Dead, Garcia is quoted as saying: "One day we were over at Phil's house...He had a big dictionary. I opened it and there was 'Grateful Dead', those words juxtaposed. It was one of those moments, you know, like everything else went blank, diffuse, just sort of oozed away, and there was GRATEFUL DEAD in big, black letters edged all around in gold, man, blasting out at me, such a stunning combination. So I said, 'How about Grateful Dead?' And that was it." The dictionary entry reads along these lines: GRATEFUL DEAD: The motif of a cycle of folk tales which begin with the hero coming upon a group of people ill-treating or refusing to bury the corpse of a man who had died without paying his debts. He gives his last penny, either to pay the man's debts or to give him a decent burial. Within a few hours he meets with a travelling companion who aids him in some impossible task, gets him a fortune or saves his life. The story ends with the companion disclosing himself as the man whose corpse the hero had befriended.(Funk & Wagnall's Dictionary). The name has also been attributed to this quote, though it's generally believed that they came across this one later.. "We now return our souls to the creator, as we stand on the edge of eternal darkness. Let our chant fill the void in order that others may know. In the land of the night the ship of the sun is drawn by the grateful dead." -- Egyptian Book of the Dead Chris Forshay <FORSHAC@ceb.ucop.edu> reports that the original source for the quote isn't Blair Jackson's book; the source is Mike Lydon's book "Rock Folk". GDTS TOO (http://www.gdtstoo.com, Customer Service Number: (415) 898-2364, Monday-Friday, 11am-5pm, PST Tour information and mailorder telephone hotline: 415-457-6388) now does mail order for many shows. Their mailing address is now POB 8150 San Rafael CA 94912 Their new customer service number is 415-898-2364. Like GDP, they moved to Novato. Hotline: our main phone number for the hotline is still 415-457-6388. We have modernized with a new digital hotline that works very well. There is no more East Coast hotline. Mailing: we are eliminating as much as possible the Registered mail. Instead we use FedEx 2-day service. The charge is $8.00 for addresses West of the Mississippi. $10.00 for addresses East of the Big River. Registered mail is still available upon request, and for Canadian orders. Money orders: we accept USPS (postal) money orders and Western Union money orders. (Western Union bought out American Express a while ago.) For Canadian orders, we accept only Canadian postals, in US dollars. Postage: has of course increased to 33 cents... and will probably increase again soon. For the rest, we still do things very much the same as we always did. 4) How did Jerry lose his finger ? ------------------------------------------------------- While they were chopping wood as children, his brother Tiff accidentally chopped it off with an axe. 5) Where did the Dancing Bears come from? -------------------------------------- The bears were used on blotter acid produced by Owsley. Owsley's nickname was Bear, the logo is a (registered?) trademark, and it appears in the Bear's Choice cover art. Earlier sightings of the bears suggest that the design may have existed for some time. 6) What is a Tape Tree and how does it work? ----------------------------------------- Somebody offers a tape(seed). Someone volunteers to be the administrator of the tree, and thus "run" it. If the administrator is not going to be the "root", it's a good idea to know who will be ahead of time, or find someone who is willing to be. After consultation with the seed, the administrator posts a message to the net soliciting applications to be on the tree. The first person(root) (maybe the offerer, maybe the administrator, maybe not) who actually gets the seed tape makes up to 5 copies and sends them out to 5 people (branches), each of those people make up to 5 copies and send them out to either other branches, or to leaves (who make no copies), etc., until everybody who signed up gets a copy. The person structuring the tree ("administrator") may or may not be the person who provides the original tape ("seed") or the person who makes the initial 5 copies ("root"). To get on, you send mail to the administrator following a posting. When on, you make up to 5 tapes for people below you (if you're a "branch"), or none (if you're a "leaf"). You send the person above you either other tapes in trade, or blanks if you can't trade. IMHO, if trading, each person pays postage one way. If sending blanks, you pay postage both ways. For most current or recent shows, the seed usually provides a DAT tape, and therefore it's a good idea for the root to have DAT capabilities as well, thus enabling most people to get high quality, low-generation analogs. There is no payment for this service, ever. Don't do business with anyone who wants payment for taping. Most heads are only too happy to make copies for anyone who asks. Q: I don't have two decks (or a dual deck). Can I still be on the tape tree without making copies for other people? A: If you cannot make copies for others you are considered a "leaf" on the tree, and will be assigned to a "branch" of the tree, that is, someone who can make copies. Q: Does it matter if I have a dubbing cassette deck instead of two separate decks for making copies? A: Many dubbing decks are cheap and do not do a good job on quality when making a copy of a tape, partly because the consumer companies don't think people will notice the difference...NOT. Deadheads are audiophiles. The reason you are on a tree is: 1) You REALLY want the shows and, 2) You want the best possible quality tape you can get for a free recording. There ARE dubbing decks out there that do a good job, but cost more and are usually worth it (both Sony and Denon make good high-end dubbing decks). If you have a dubbing deck, NEVER, repeat, NEVER use the high speed dub when you are making a copy for someone. Why? You will reduce the quality of the tape, for the person you are making it for and any copies they will make. Always make the best quality tapes you can with the equipment you have on hand. When a tree is started the administrator will want to know what equipment you have (brand, type, number of heads, etc...). This information is needed so that when the administrator sets up the tree everyone gets the best possible recording they can get, no matter what type of equipment you may have. Q: What should I set my recording levels at? A: Recording levels are really a function of the deck and the type of tape being used. For instance, you can probably set the peaks at +5 dB for metal tapes, but at +3 dB for high bias tapes. The key here is to KNOW YOUR DECK. The suggestion is to try different tapes and choose the one that works best with your deck. My preference for recording tapes (depending on the source) are the new Maxell XLIIS tapes. Q: If you miss the request cuttoff date for the tree, is there any way to get on the tree? A: In general, no. You can try sending mail to somebody who's making fewer than 5 copies, and ask if he'll make you one. Often, the tree administrator will indicate people who've offered to make more copies than they've been assigned. You'll probably have better luck doing this if you offer to trade. Q: When everybody trades tapes on the net, what is the customary way everybody does this? A: Generally, by trade. You offer a tape to somebody and ask for a list of what you can get in return, and choose something. If you are going to be doing a lot of trading, you should get on the tapehead mailing list (send mail to tape-heads-request@fuggles.acc.virginia.edu and ask to be added to that list). Also common on the net is a posting requesting a tape of a particular show, and offering to trade from your collection of ### hours of tapes, or offering blanks if you cant make tapes. Probably a good idea to put GROVEL or REQUEST and the date in your subject heading if ya want a response. Additionally, Wayne Folsom now runs an informal Tape Server, whereby you send him a request for certain tapes/sets, and he posts the lists of wants to the net every week or so. If you would like to make a request and need more information, email him at wfolsom@bbn.com 7) Who makes the Net-Head T-shirts and how do I get one? ----------------------------------------------------- Maya has rarely done them more often than once a year (and I don't blame her). There's usually an announcement in the fall indicating a new run and giving the pertinent details, if she does one. Be patient, be kind. Nethead shirts are a labor of love for Maya, not an obligation. Here's the most recent announcement... From roserunr@noller.com Mon Sep 11 10:57:00 PDT 1995 From: roserunr@noller.com (Roserunner) Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead Subject: Nethead t-shirt run Keywords: nethead t-shirt Message-ID: <1718-PCNews-125beta@noller.com> Date: 8 Sep 95 19:58:58 GMT Organization: Lunatic Fringe Velocity Freaks Lines: 161 Due to popular request, Maya has agreed to do another run of nethead t-shirts. I have received some really kind e-mail suggesting that Maya and I can contribute to keeping our scene active and vibrant by making another batch of nethead t-shirts. It's been 23 days since Jerry died. I'm getting choked up trying to compose this, so I'm gonna stop and just attatch the t-shirt run announcement. Keep in touch, Roserunner ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Here's the announcement about nethead t-shirts. I hope it answers all your questions. Please read the whole text before sending questions to me. As it is, I answer almost half the questions by simply re-sending this announcement. If you still have any questions after reading this, please e-mail me at roseruner@noller.com and I'll address them. PURPOSE: Meet'n'greeters so folks can find other netheads in crowds. Otherwise, a couple of netheads might just stumble^H^H^H^H^H^H^Hglide gracefully by each other. Basically, this is a home brew method of spreading smiles far and wide. DESCRIPTION: Mr. Bones is at a terminal. He has a garland of roses on his head. He's turning to look over his right shoulder, and raising his hand in greeting. The terminal has a lightning bolt down the middle, with one side of the screen being red and the other blue. Over his head are hand composed letters forming the word "Nethead". Below Mr. Bones is a crescent of red roses with green leaves. The design uses four colors. On the back of the t-shirt is says "Nothin' left to do but :-) :-) :-)" A kind soul scanned a t-shirt and stored it at the berkeley archive site (gdead.berkeley.edu \pub\gdead). The t-shirts are 100% cotton. Preshrunk. Major brand (Fruit of the Loom usually). The design is printed on a white t-shirt. White is easier to find in a sea of tie-dyes, or a dark room. Besides, we could never dye them just _exactly_ the way every "picky deadhead" would want it ;-) Kids can get by with a size Small, btw. They make grate jammies ;-) The design is about 12 inches across, so it won't fit on a "real" kid's size t-shirt. HOW TO GET ONE (or more): An American Express money order is must for foreign orders, as banks have become much more reluctant to deal with foreign personal checks, recently. Also, foreign orders need to send $US22, which includes an extra $2 for shipping. Postal or American Express money orders can also be used. If that's a problem, we are open to considering trades of local stuff for nethead t-shirts. Think of chocolate from Switzerland, or lace >from Belgium, or something along that line. Maya has never had a bad check from a nethead. so she'll keep on accepting them, as long as the check is drawn on a U.S. bank. Besides, if anyone should send rubber instead of paper, they would generate a huge amount of bad kharma. That much bad Kharma would prevent them from being able to score a show ticket for at _least_ a whole year. Maya saves each and every t-shirt request forever. Send something, (a receipt from a Chinese (or other) restaurant, a cookie recipe with your SIZE on the back, a copy of the cover of your dissertation, a piece of paper, a picture of a dancing elephant at the National Zoo, a tape label (attached to a tape is OK too ;-) ), the doodling from that boring required class you just got out of, by now you get the idea) with (at least) the following information: Name Address Size (Can't make one for _you_ without knowing what size _you_ wear) Phone Number (in case of some glitch) $US 20 per t-shirt (make checks out to Maya Baldwin) to: Maya Baldwin 5421 Douglas Lane Sebastopol, Ca. 95472-2112 DEADLINE for nethead t-shirt requests is Bobby's birthday 10-15-95. We'll have the t-shirts in the mail on or about 11-15-95. Don't forget to INCLUDE YOUR SIZE. XXL is no problem. Please e-mail me if you need an even bigger size, and we'll try to work something out. T-shirts that are too large can be easily shrunk by washing in hot water, btw. The t-shirts are pre-shrunk, but they _are_ cotton, which naturally shrinks when washed in hot water. Preshrunk t-shirts shrink less than non-pre-shrunk, of course. QUESTIONS: I'm Maya's net.I/O.Port :-) My e-mail address for any questions is: roserunr@noller.com If something comes up and you need to talk to Maya directly, call (707) 887-9017, while the Sun is shining in California. Did I mention that it's important to tell Maya the SIZE t-shirt you need? CONFIRMATION OF REQUESTS: This is a little "operation" and we're quite busy with our regular lives, so we don't send out confirmation of every t-shirt request. There just isn't enough time in the day. We'd like to, but just can't pull it off. If you are concerned about the arrival of your request, please e-mail me and I'll consult with Maya then tell you if she has it yet. I can deal with a few requests on a sporadic basis easier than contracting to come in every day and send out a bunch of e-mail confirmations. After all, my boss thinks I use this machine to develop his products ;-) It's really amazing how much interest there is in our meet'n'greeters. It isn't a business, and we can't spend all our time on it. We hope you understand where we're coming from. These t-shirts are intended to help folks find each other, regardless of how they communicate through cyberspace. The access method/net isn't important, the communication is. Therefore, please feel free to distribute this nethead t-shirt offering announcement to any list/machine you feel would have an interested audience on it. --------------- Context of nethead t-shirts presented below -------------- We're just a couple of, um, ah, "experienced" hippies hoping to make it easier for folks to make connections at shows. The nethead t-shirt was a spontaneous creation of my wife, Maya, a few years ago. When I first wore it to a show Dave Gans, Marty Lefkowitz, and Rea Simpson saw it and I met them for the first time. If I hadn't been wearing the nethead t-shirt, I would have just walked by them in the crowd, and our meeting might not have happened. At the same time, there was a lot of net.discussion about somehow making a r.m.gdead t-shirt of some sort. Somebody mentioned the nethead t-shirts Maya had made. Things snowballed from there. Now Maya tries to keep a few t-shirts around, so we can send one out real soon after we receive a request. If there's going to be a delay of more than a couple of weeks, I'll get back to you and let you know about it. Please be a bit patient with us, as this isn't anything resembling a business. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ---- "Get your motor runnin' / Head out on the highway Lookin' for adventure / In whatever comes our way" -Steppenwolf roserunr@noller.com -- lotsa names, lotsa numbers, lotsa kids, lotsa bikes 8) What is Dead-Flames? -------------------- A mailing list that was the equivalent of rec.music.gdead. Dead-Flames and the dead-flames digest was retired August 31, 1996. Everything read in dead-flames was also read in rec.music.gdead and vice-versa (except for those things posted to rec.music.gdead with a restricted distribution that prevents them from reaching the node that dead-flames originates from). Dead-flames was digestified, each mail message may have contained many postings. Each message was about 600-700 lines long (about 30K characters). Even if you did't receive dead-flames, you could post to both dead-flames and rec.music.gdead using email. Dead-flames was handy for those who do not get usenet.news, for those who do get usenet.news but have a slow feed, or even for those who have reading, but not posting, privleges for usenet.news. The following was the standard info that's was always tacked on to each dead-flames digest: ** FOR YOUR REFERENCE ** The service addresses, to which questions about the list itself and requests to be added to or deleted from it should be directed, are as follows: Internet: dead-flames-request @ gdead.berkeley.edu You can send mail to the entire list (and rec.music.gdead) via one of these addresses: Internet: dead-flames @ gdead.berkeley.edu 9) What is the Well? ----------------- The Well is the Whole Earth 'Lectronic Link, a public access computer network based in California. The Well's Grateful Dead conferences are hosted by Neil Glazer (nlg @ well.com) and Tony Kiriluk (tkiriluk @ well.com). There are also separate conferences devoted to tapes, concerts, rumors, etc. For more info on The Well, you can call (415) 332-4335(voice), or send email to: info @ well.com or browse www.well.com 10) What is DeadBase and how do I get one? -------------------------------------- DeadBase is a deadhead-originated manual which contains extensive set lists, statistics, venue info, facts and opinion on thirty plus years of Grateful Dead magic; it is an invaluable resource for any Deadhead. Some yearly editions of DeadBase include Grateful Dead, Garcia related band and Weir related band setlists. Other editions contain Grateful Dead setlists only. DeadBase IX is out and is available in either Hard Cover or Soft Cover. For more information check: http://www.deadbase.com http://www.cyberportal.net/deadbase/db.home.html http://www.ggould.com/gdforum AOL Grateful Dead Forum Store (AOL keyword: gdstore) Terrapin Tapes 800-677-8650 The mailing address for direct orders is DeadBase Orders P.O. Box 499 Hanover, NH 03755 11) What is that weird thing that Mickey played during Space? -------------------------------------------------------- It is called "The Beam", a long aluminum I-beam with twelve piano strings streched along its length; the vibration of the strings is sensed by a very large magnetic pickup. The sound is amplified through Myers speakers and sub-woofers, whose loudness can be varied with a foot-pedal allowing a controlled degree of acoustic feedback. The best example of the Beam is on the Rythm Devil's "The Apocalypse Now Sessions". The Beam is used heavily, but most notably on the track, "Napalm for Breakfast". Pittsburgh 06/26/88, Shoreline 06/16/90, and Buffalo 06/06/92 are good examples of the Beam in concert. 12) Which are some classic shows for tape collectors? ------------------------------------------------- How about (these are just suggestions): 03/25/66 - Trouper's Hall 11/19/66 - Fillmore Aud. 11/29/66 - The Matrix 02/14/68 - Carousel Ballroom 08/24/68 - Shrine Aud. 10/30/68 - Mickey & The Hartbeats 03/01/69 - Fillmore West 12/12/69 - Thelma Theatre 02/11/70 - Fillmore East 02/13/70 - Fillmore East 02/14/70 - Fillmore East 05/02/70 - Harpur College 05/06/70 - M.I.T. 09/20/70 - Fillmore East 02/18/71 - Portchester 04/08/71 - Boston Music Hall 04/28/71 - Fillmore East 04/29/71 - Fillmore East 07/02/71 - Fillmore West 12/10/71 - Fox Theatre 12/14/71 - Ann Arbor 07/26/72 - Portland 08/21/72 - BCT 08/27/72 - Veneta 02/09/73 - Maples Pavilion 05/26/73 - Kezar Stadium 06/10/73 - RFK 11/10/73 - Winterland 12/02/73 - Boston 02/24/74 - Winterland 05/19/74 - Portland, OR 06/18/74 - Louisville 06/26/74 - Providence 06/28/74 - Boston 10/19/74 - Winterland 10/20/74 - Winterland 06/03/76 - Portland 10/09/76 - Oakland 02/26/77 - San Bernardino 03/18/77 - Winterland 04/27/77 - Passaic, NJ 05/08/77 - Cornell 05/09/77 - Buffalo 06/09/77 - Winterland 10/02/77 - Portland, OR 12/29/77 - Winterland 01/22/78 - Eugene, OR 07/08/78 - Red Rocks 10/21/78 - Winterland 11/24/78 - Passaic, NJ 12/31/78 - Winterland 10/27/79 - Cape Cod 11/01/79 - Nassau 12/01/79 - Pittsburgh 12/26/79 - Oakland 05/11/80 - Portland, ME 09/02/80 - Rocheste 05/06/81 - Nassau 05/16/81 - Cornell 09/26/81 - Buffalo 10/16/81 - Milk Weg 12/31/81 - Oakland Auditorium 04/06/82 - Philly 04/18/82 - Hartford 04/19/82 - Baltimore 04/16/83 - Brendan Byrne 04/17/83 - Brendan Byrne 06/18/83 - Saratoga 09/06/83 - Red Rocks 09/11/83 - Santa Fe 10/11/83 - MSG 07/13/84 - Greek Theatre 07/22/84 - Ventura 10/12/84 - Augusta 10/20/84 - Syracuse 11/02/84 - BCT 06/14/85 - Greek Theatre 06/24/85 - Cincinnati 09/07/85 - Red Rocks 09/15/85 - Chula Vista 11/01/85 - Richmond 03/20/86 - Hampton 12/27/86 - Oakland 04/04/87 - Worcester 06/20/87 - Greek 06/26/87 - Alpine Valley 07/06/87 - Pittsburgh 07/08/87 - Roanoke 09/18/87 - MSG 12/31/87 - Oakland 03/17/88 - HJ Kaiser 03/27/88 - Hampton 06/30/88 - Rochester 07/02/88 - Oxford Plains 09/03/88 - Cap Centre 04/02/89 - Pittsburgh 06/21/89 - Shoreline 07/12/89 - RFK 07/17/89 - Alpine Valley 10/09/89 - Hampton 10/16/89 - Brendan Byrne 03/29/90 - Nassau 07/12/90 - RFK 09/16/90 - MSG 09/19/90 - MSG 09/20/90 - MSG 10/27/90 - Paris 12/12/90 - Denver 12/31/90 - Oakland 03/21/91 - Cap Centre 04/01/91 - Greensboro 05/12/91 - Shoreline 06/14/91 - RFK 06/17/91 - Giants Stadium 08/16/91 - Shoreline 09/10/91 - MSG 09/26/91 - Boston 10/31/91 - Oakland 12/28/91 - Oakland 03/09/92 - Cap Centre 03/20/92 - Hamilton 05/31/92 - Las Vegas 06/20/92 - RFK 12/13/92 - Oakland? End of Part 1 of 2, rec.music.gdead FAQ -- "Damn. In a fit of disgust I put *myself* in my kill file." -bongo on r.m.gd This message will be infinitely reproduced.