Subject: Re: St. Louis station/ Dx (was: Re: KSHE/St. Louis heard in...Indiana)
From: alcassel@crl.com (Alan L. Cassel)
Organization: CRL Dialup Internet Access (415) 705-6060 [login: guest]
b.j. mora (jmora@netcom.com) wrote:
: reminds me of my favorite dx story... i was living in Albany, NY, scanning
: the FM airwaves, and happened upon a rock station at 93.7. Thing was, there was no Capital District station at 93.7. I listened for a while, then heard the
: calls 'KSD'. I checked my FM Altas, and sure enough, it was listed!
: i called the jock on-air, and she couldn't believe where i was.
: btw, it was midday, about 1pm, on a partly cloudy day. Go figure.
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About two years ago, when we lived in New Providence, NJ (about 25 miles
from Manhattan), we did not subscribe to cable. There were *many* times
during that summer when WCBS-TV ch. 2 (NYC) was rendered unwatchable by
interference from KTVI-TV ch. 2 (St. Louis, MO), and it was possible, on
an almost regular basis, to tilt the rabbit ears to and fro until you
could actually *see and hear* the St. Louis station come in rather
clearly.
But this was in an area where WCBS-TV did not come in too clearly, and my
amateur radio experience has taught me to expect things like that to
happen occasionally.
A more interesting occurrence happened back in the early '60's or
thereabouts, when I lived in St. Louis, MO, well within the main coverage
area of KMOX-TV ch. 4. The TV sound was interrupted by interference - on
*one* of two television sets. It got progressively worse, until some
French broadcast completely captured the audio. (The video was not
affected, and only *one* of the two television sets was affected! Both
had only rabbit ears.) It was apparently a Canadian station, because it
sounded like they were giving a Canadian news report. What was genuinely
surprising was that it was capturing a *very* strong signal from the local
station, but *only* the audio, and only on *one* of two television sets,
both using nothing but rabbit ears, in different rooms of the house.
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Subject: Re: Teaching Radio UNETHICAL?
From: dk@crl.com (David A. Kaye)
Organization: CRL Dialup Internet Access (415) 705-6060 [login: guest]
Scott Dorsey (kludge@grissom.larc.nasa.gov) wrote:
: It's definitely not a growth industry. I no longer work as a broadcast
: engineer, and I would not encourage anyone in their right mind to go into
: broadcast engineering with the industry the way it is today. However, many
: of the things which I learned as a broadcast engineer serve me in good
: stead in a completely different field.
Thank you. As to your training, could you have trained for your current
field in another industry? The computer in industry, perhaps?
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: Actually, there's a big demand for blacksmiths right now in museum work.
: It's a lost art, and as a consequence the few people who carry on the
: tradition are in good demand.
I did happen to mention blacksmithing because the anomaly of seeing an
old circa 1872 blacksmith shop in downtown San Francisco is a litle
disconcerting at first. They specialize in fences, yard pieces,
sculptures, burglar bars, etc. I guess they might do an occasional
horse for the police mounted patrol. But, still, there are far fewer of
these shops than there were 110 years ago. Likewise, radio will continue
to exist, too.
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Subject: Re: Teaching Radio UNETHICAL?
From: dk@crl.com (David A. Kaye)
Organization: CRL Dialup Internet Access (415) 705-6060 [login: guest]
Mike Harpe (mike@hermes.louisville.edu) wrote:
>How long before we realize that radio broadcasting is in the same situation?
: I think this is putting it a bit strongly. The broadcasting industry as a
: whole is NOT going away.
Please NOTICE that I said "RADIO broadcasting" -- the broadcast industry
is growing, but not the RADIO industry. Notice that the header says
RADIO. Also notice that many colleges specialize in teaching RADIO
courses, not TV. Or if they do TV courses, they don't have access to TV
stations for actual job preparation.
: Maybe the answer is training with a more technical emphasis. Teach broadcast
: engineering and maintenance instead. Talk about a field that is hard to
: get into! Someone has still got to keep all this automatic stuff operating.
True, but it's likely going to come more from the computer industry, not
the broadcast industry. What's needed today is not more DJs, but people
who can set up LANs, repair digital tape machines, replace antennas, etc.
Most stations do not even need fulltime engineers any longer. Meter
readings are automated or done by the guys in Colorado. I know of radio
station (KPBS-FM in Porland) which runs all night long with NOBODY on
duty. A relay trips twice an hour and starts a local cart machine.
There's nobody even in the building.
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Subject: Re: Teaching Radio UNETHICAL?
From: dk@crl.com (David A. Kaye)
Organization: CRL Dialup Internet Access (415) 705-6060 [login: guest]
Jeff Billman (jbillma@opie.bgsu.edu) wrote:
: I'm not doubting this claim, but what was your source?
The U.S. Commerce Department keeps a reference of job descriptions, pay
scales, job growth/shrinkage, job migration, etc. I saw this stat in one
of their sources about 8-10 months ago. From what I read by people whose
jobs are being replaced by automation and LMAs I think it's realistic.
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: What about DAB? Developments in Internet & other computer communications?
: The future may not be radio broadcast in the traditional analog style, but
: radio will survive in other forms.
Fine, but a LOT of schools give much attention to teaching people to spin
records, announce, rewrite wire copy, and other nearly obsolete
"skills". DAB and other technologies are not the kinds of glamorous
things kids want to hear about when taking broadcast courses -- unless
they're nerds like us, of course.
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: It still remains the best way people
: can be entertained & informed in the car & other situations where they
: cannot direct their visual attention to the medium.
I believe Rich Wood of WOR Radio Network (Dr. Joy Browne, The Dolans,
etc.) He says simply that he can teach "radio" to anyone who has
something to say. They don't need courses. He should know. His past
successes have included nearly every big name radio format and talk host
in the past 25 years.
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: Maybe I'm a little biased because I'm spending four years (actually more,
: but who's counting!) of my life & thousands of dollars learning this field.
: Nevertheless, radio seems like it will survive for at least another
: generation. (Remember all those folks who said TV would kill radio?)
I've gotten several nasty email messages saying I'm out of my mind. If
you want my opinion (you can skip this if you want) I believe you may be
wasting your money if you're not trying to learn TV. I happen to love
radio; I don't watch TV. However, I'm realistic enough to know that
radio is not a growing medium. It's shrinking. The success of DMX and
other digital music services, CDs, tapes, and MTV shows that people
generally don't like what radio has to offer -- except in morning or
afternoon drive and on talk shows.
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