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            Articles in this issue include:

Re: IS there a PAUL BARSKY in the house?        (prmount)
Barsky,    where are you?                    (WEOS-FM )
Re: Radio Station C                    (Ted Schuerzinger)
Re: Seeking Radio Station cal                (prmount)
DC Morning 89 to 92                    (J. Carlos Castro)
Re: WFUV is having a problem receiving a federal grant    (David Mandl)
WFUV and NTIA grant rejection                (WEOS-FM )
KFJC 89.7 FM - Los Altos Hills,    CA, USA            (Michael McCarty)
Re: Station Positioners                    (Jeff Billman)
Radio Broadcast    Data System tuner available        (Howard    Pierpont)
Re: Need Data on STL Options                (Eric Weaver)
Re: Teaching Radio UNETHICAL?                (Jeff Billman)
Re: Teaching Radio UNETHICAL?                (Mike Harpe)
Re: Teaching Radio UNETHICAL?                (Scott Dorsey)

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Subject: Re: IS there a PAUL BARSKY in the house?
From: [e-mail]
Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories


Well, to the point of a Barksy in the house meaning
is he on the Internet, I have no evidence of such.

However he reportedly started in morning drive
at WPLY-100.3 Media-Philadelphia the day after Labor Day.
This is the  former soft AC station WKSZ that Scott Shannon is
consulting as a pseudo Top 40
(no rap, no hard stuff).

I'm going to ask a friend to run tape on Barsky for me, as Y-100 is
blocked here by Z-100 New York.



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Subject: Barsky, where are you?
From: WEOS-FM <@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU:[e-mail]>
Organization: NONE

Paul was a few years a head of me in school (SUNY Brockport). He worked at
WAXC, WHFM both Rochester, and then went on his merry way. He was up for a
job at the SUper Radio format, a precursor to all the SMN type stuff that
exists now, but that never happened, and he was in Philly at CBS' defunct
Top 40 FM. He went to Chicago and that is the last I heard from him. He
always was pretty crazy. Even in College. One time, they pulled a stunt at
FM99 that he and his partner were being sent to their "sister" station in
York PA. They had a show with a big farewell, a lot of mad and sad listeners.
The next day, were two guys who were horrible. It was all a big joke.

Another Brockport grad, radio name of Jay "The Moonchild" Stevens is in
Washington, DC, at WPGC. He started at the now christian station, WASB
Brockport New York, which was WWBK, and started at WADD.

==================================================================
|Michael R. Black               |BITNET:    BLACK%HWS1@HWS       |
|General Manager, WEOS-FM       |      or   BLACK@HWS            |
|Hobart & William Smith Colleges|PHONE:     [phone]         |
|Geneva, New York  14456-3397   |FAX:       [phone]         |
==================================================================

Oh, I forgot that the order was WADD, WWBK, WJBT, and then WASB.

MRB

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Subject: Re: Radio Station C
From: [e-mail] (Ted Schuerzinger)
Organization: NONE

In article <2a5gkp$[e-mail]>
[e-mail] (Steven J. Sobol) writes:

> [e-mail] (Christopher J Hayes) writes:
>
> > WLTQ Milwaukee: LighT and Quite (we think??)
>
> :)
>
> More likely Light and Quiet...
>
> Try this one on for size:
>
> WDCR-AM - Dartmouth Campus Radio (broadcast, licensed)
> and Dayton Campus Radio (carrier-current, not licensed, but has no signal
> so it really doesn't matter)

Actually, that should be "Dartmouth College Radio", not Campus.  I
suppose I should know these things.  :-)  I'm glad to see we were
mentioned, though.

However, it's come to our attention that there's another WDCR
broadcasting out of Media PA.  Our PD brought up the subject because he
noticed it in one of the college music magazines we get here.  I looked
up AMs by calls, AMs by frequency (640 I believe), and stations by
location in our AP Broadcast guide (which is, admittedly, three years
old), but couldn't find another WDCR anywhere.  Does anybody have any
info on this?  The PD thought that perhaps the other station could have
the same calls if it's non-commercial, but I've always thought that no
two stations could have the same calls unless they're a jointly-owned
AM/FM pair.


--Ted Schuerzinger
Finance Director, Dartmouth Broadcasting
[e-mail]
"Apostrophe's [sic] are not used for plural's [sic]." -- Anonymous

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Subject: Re: Seeking Radio Station cal
From: [e-mail]
Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories


I  hope someone is keeping track of all these call letter meaning postings.
Because in a year, this topic will come up again when someone
will innocently ask "do the call letters of radio stations
stand for anything" and a whole set of new readers will post what
they know.
I've heard there is an archive on Compuserve, and
I believe one of the radio clubs put out a list of what
they knew several years ago.

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Subject: DC Morning 89 to 92
From: [e-mail] (J. Carlos Castro)
Organization: George Mason University, Fairfax, Virginia, USA

Can anyone post the yearly results of the ratings from 89 to 92
in the DC morning Drive?

Thanks

--
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Carlos Castro   |  "And all this time I thought that the hat was for
jcastro@Mason1. |   'X' Windows!!!"
       gmu.edu

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Subject: Re: WFUV is having a problem receiving a federal grant
From: [e-mail] (David Mandl)
Organization: Lehman Brothers

In article <2a5glc$[e-mail]> [e-mail] writes:

   New York Newsday reports that WFUV, the radio station of Fordham University
   is having a problem with a $262,852 grant from the U.S. Department of
   Commerce.  Commerce Department officials rejected Fordham's 1993
   National Telecommunications and Information Admiistration grant
   application because its weekly religious broadcast violates a
   department policy against funding noncommercial radio stations that
   broadcast religious programs

   The station manager of WFUV states that religious programming makes
   up only one of 168 weekly programmig hours at WFUV.  The grant would
   have supplied at 25% of the $1 million needed to raise their
   antenna to 300 feet to satisfy federal environmental regulations.

   WFUV plays mostly contemporary folk music which is a refreshing
   alternative to the programming of commercial stations.  If you
   are in the New York Metropolitan area, please give them a try.

   Bruce Slutsky
   New Jersey Institue of Technology
   [e-mail]

My heart bleeds for the scumbags.  This is one of the stations that
spent the last 4 years or so trying to crush WFMU, a tiny station in
East Orange, NJ.  (I do a show at FMU.)  It's a very long story, and
it got tons of media coverage, so I won't go into the details here,
but 50,000-watt FUV, along with a few other ostensibly "community"
stations, waged a vicious campaign against 1440-watt FMU, basically
trying to spend us out of existence or make the fight so expensive
for us that we would just give up.

This fight cost FMU SEVERAL HUNDRED THOUSAND dollars (FMU's total
budget before the fight started was around $150,000--after the attack
started, that went up to $250,000).  The whole thing finally ended
recently, with the stations settling among themselves and FMU staying
at its current power, which is all it was trying to do.  I think
they were all surprised that we were able to stay in the fight and
raise the staggering lawyer and engineer fees.

I have no sympathy for FUV or their bastard of a program director,
and wish them only the worst.

Opinions expressed here are not those of WFMU, of course.

   --Dave.

--
Dave Mandl

[e-mail]  (play)
[e-mail] (work)

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Subject: WFUV and NTIA grant rejection
From: WEOS-FM <@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU:[e-mail]>
Organization: NONE

WFUV has taken the NTIA/Dept. of Commerce to court based on its failure to
be granted a grant. WFUV is citing violation of first ammendment rights,
violation of the Communications Act, regarding governemnt trying to dictate
programming, and violation of NTIA rules granting lower priority grants.
WFUV is "owned" by Fordahm University, which ii tied to the Catholic Church.
The station broadcasts a weekly mass, which is in violation of the NTIA
rules. No sectarian programming can be broadcast with equipment purchased
under the grant, in this case, the antenna and tower.
There is quite a bit of discussion going on about this. WFUV is a "Public
Station" and broadcasts typical non-commercial faire, including folk and
some shows that aren't heard on other NYC stations. However, to stte
ate that
the mass is a "public service" boggles the mind. With more and more religious
stations gobbling up the reserved non-commercial frequencies, I find it hard
to support this argument, that it is a small part of the weekly schedule.
What would prevent a "christian music station" or gospel music station, that
only has 1 hour per week of programming that is a church service, from eating
up US tax dollars?
I sympathize with WFUV. It is hard to do this kind of thing, and the grant
would help. This in light of NTIA/PTFP earlier this year indicating they would
grant a waiver of the rule for this station. However, they have reversed
themselves, and thus the lawsuit. To complicate matters more, each year,
public radio & tv stations broadcast programs that could be seen as sectarian.
I am not talking about the Christmas music programs, as Christmas is now more
of a secular holiday than a religious one. However, what about the brodcast of
a Christmas church service, or and Advent church service? There is also the
discussion of sacred music vs religious music. Why is a weekly gospel show
ok (a non-preaching one)? All of these arguments make the dilemma even less
clear.
As a non-commercial station, I would not object to seeing WFUV get the grant.
However, the implications and results in future years could have sweeping
results in the defintion of non-commercial. A Florida "christian music"
station, is applying for state and federal funding under the Community Service
Grant program. I feel if the line isn't drawn, the public broadcasters will
have to compete for even less of a shrinking pot of money, with these religious
interests.

==================================================================
|Michael R. Black               |BITNET:    BLACK%HWS1@HWS       |
|General Manager, WEOS-FM       |      or   BLACK@HWS            |
|Hobart & William Smith Colleges|PHONE:     [phone]         |
|Geneva, New York  14456-3397   |FAX:       [phone]         |
==================================================================

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Subject: KFJC 89.7 FM - Los Altos Hills, CA, USA
From: [e-mail] (Michael McCarty)
Organization: Network Computing Devices Inc., Mt. View, CA, USA


   Congradulations to KFJC FM in Los Altos Hills, CA
   for winning the coveted Tom Donahue award for
   Best Station in the Bay Area (.)

   Keep up the good work.  I will always be listening,
   and donating, as you have asked us to.



   Sincerely,

   Michael Mc Carty

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Subject: Re: Station Positioners
From: [e-mail] (Jeff Billman)
Organization: Bowling Green State Univ.

In article <2a8470$[e-mail]>, "James D. Morrow"
<[e-mail]> wrote:
> Let's talk station positioners, IDs and even jingles (just
> give the "lyrics" we'll fake the rest!  Anyone who has created,or has heard of
> some very CREATIVE ways of giving the ol' legal ID, positioning, re-entries
> and the like - let's hear from you now!

"Rock Solid- And built to stay that way!  WFAL- Bowling Green (Ohio)."  I
understand the slogan "We're Rock Solid, and you're not!" was also
considered, but turned down for obvious reasons.  (Hmmm, what could that
beI ?)

Another favorite of mine was used by WJR, Detroit- "The Great Voice of the
Great Lakes."

I also remember when WNBC was on the air in New York, they would announce
the call with a harty "DOUBLE YOO EH-UH-EN, BEE-SEE!!!" (Drawn out "N",
noticeable pause between "N" and "B").  That station is now WFAN, isn't it?

Finally, there's a unique one being used by a contemporary Christian
station in suburban Toledo:  "This is what happens when 'fanatics' get a
hold of 3,000 watts of power!  Christian Hit Radio, YES-FM!"  This also
harks back to the original call letter conversation we had:  The call
WYSZ-FM, through a slight stretch of the imagination, stands for YES-FM.

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Subject: Radio Broadcast Data System tuner available
From: [e-mail] (Howard Pierpont)
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation

In "Appliance Manufacturer" October 1993 Page 14

"RBDS Home Tuner
"AM/FM tuner is the first home tuner to fully implement the Radio Broadcast
Data System (RBDS) for the U.S. market, according to Onkyo, Ramsey, N.J. RBDS
enables radio stations to transmit identifying information such as call
letters and type of programming, which can be displayed by RBDS-compatible
tuners or used to facilitate station selection and tuning. Through the radio
text feature, stations can broadcast additional information such as artist,
song title and album."

There is a small BW picture that looks like a tuner.

OK, I've been a sleep and don't know much about RBDS. How many stations are
capable or sending the data and how many are? Wouldn't it be nice to hook this
baby to a PC and take the data for later use? Couldn't a transcript be
downloaded during the program so you could read the show later [as opposed to
taping the show]?

Inquiring minds want to know........

Howard "Rip Van Winkle" Pierpont
at Digital Equipment Corp
77 Reed Road Hudson MA 01749-2895

I speak not for for DIGITAL and other standard disclaimers.

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Subject: Re: Need Data on STL Options
From: [e-mail] (Eric Weaver)
Organization: SONY Advanced Video Technology Center San Jose, CA USA


In article <2a847h$[e-mail]>, Joe Walker <[e-mail]> writes, in part:
|>
|> I'm trying to compile data about the effectiveness of analog
|> telephone lines as a method of linking the studio to the
|> transmitter, particularly as compared to a microwave STL,
|> or perhaps some other method.
|>
|> I need quantitative stuff, although good qualitative stuff might
|> be useful too.
|>
|> --
|> JOE WALKER                  *   Internet:     [e-mail]
|> General Manager, WUVA-FM    *           [e-mail]

Perhaps you could explain what kind of quantitative comparison you're after.
Price?  Signal/noise?  Outage time?

At KFJC, we have for at least 15 years been running our program over a 10 mile
stretch of 15KHz equalized pairs.  It is an old direct premises-premises
circuit, not passing through the CO, which Pac*Bell would not install these
days.

The left channel in particular, but both channels sometimes, are prone to
intermittent severe ground buzz due, I think, to flooding in cable vaults along
the route resulting in water in the splices.  I have been through several
rounds of calling repair and having the problem gone by the time the tech
gets out to the neighborhood.  Most frustrating.  You might not have this
problem with your circuit routing, but the Moody Road and Page Mill Road cables
have some serious bugs.

We are about to replace these circuits with
microwave for regular use and keep them as a backup.  I'm waiting for the
letter of coordination from the local committee to send in the 313 form.

I believe we are paying $80/mo. each for them, but the price may rise and if it
does we may drop the "worse" one.

It is necessary to have the telco re-equalize the lines every three years or
so, due to component ageing.  They really don't like doing this on our lines
because the equalizers are mostly in "sub-boxes" on the road, but it's part
of the contract.

You can probably expect a setup charge of about $1000 per channel plus a little
more to phase-match them for stereo use, plus about $180 per month each.  You
might, on a short haul, be able to use a "dry pair" circuit (be certain there
are NO loading coils in the way!) and pre- and post- equalize it yourself
using either Tellabs 4002 Program Amp cards or even cheap graphic EQs if
necessary.

In general, phone circuits have a slightly lower setup cost than buying a
950 link, but the monthly charges add up.  [If your telco is GTE, you might
as well just pay for the microwave or lay fiber yourself.  They'd never get
it right.]
--
Eric Weaver  Sony AVTC  3300 Zanker Road, MS 4B1  SJ CA 95134  408 955-4904
& Chief Engineer, KFJC 89.7  Foothill College  Los Altos Hills, CA 94022

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Subject: Re: Teaching Radio UNETHICAL?
From: [e-mail] (Jeff Billman)
Organization: Bowling Green St. Univ.

In article <2a5g6s$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (David A. Kaye)
wrote:

> Andy's comment leads me to this question:  Is it unethical for colleges
> and high schools to teach radio broadcasting, considering that by the end
> of the decade there will be 25% fewer jobs in the industry?

I'm not doubting this claim, but what was your source?

> The role of high schools and colleges is to prepare people for the
> future.  The future does not appear to be radio broadcasting.  It's all
> but a dead industry.  Sure, people listen, but the wave of the future is
> to eliminate jobs, not expand them, to replace people with technology,
> not hire more DJs.

What about DAB?  Developments in Internet & other computer communications?
The future may not be radio broadcast in the traditional analog style, but
radio will survive in other forms.  It still remains the best way people
can be entertained & informed in the car & other situations where they
cannot direct their visual attention to the medium.  (Ever try reading a
newspaper while driving or watching TV while shaving?!?)

> While radio stations are not going to disappear, neither have blacksmith
> shops.  But, I don't know of any college (at least not on the West Coast)
> teaching blacksmithing.  To direct a kid toward a future as a blacksmith
> would likely be considered unethical.
>
> How long before we realize that radio broadcasting is in the same situation?

Maybe I'm a little biased because I'm spending four years (actually more,
but who's counting!) of my life & thousands of dollars learning this field.
 Nevertheless, radio seems like it will survive for at least another
generation. (Remember all those folks who said TV would kill radio?)

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Subject: Re: Teaching Radio UNETHICAL?
From: [e-mail] (Mike Harpe)
Organization: University of Louisville

[e-mail] (David A. Kaye) writes:


>: First a little background info, then I'll get to my question.  I'm taking a
>: Broadcast Communication class at our local community college, the main purpose
>: of which is to teach you how to be a radio DJ.  It seems to be a pretty good
>: class so far.  We get to do at least 10 newscasts and 20 hours on the air

>Andy's comment leads me to this question:  Is it unethical for colleges
>and high schools to teach radio broadcasting, considering that by the end
>of the decade there will be 25% fewer jobs in the industry?

>The role of high schools and colleges is to prepare people for the
>future.  The future does not appear to be radio broadcasting.  It's all
>but a dead industry.  Sure, people listen, but the wave of the future is
>to eliminate jobs, not expand them, to replace people with technology,
>not hire more DJs.

>While radio stations are not going to disappear, neither have blacksmith
>shops.  But, I don't know of any college (at least not on the West Coast)
>teaching blacksmithing.  To direct a kid toward a future as a blacksmith
>would likely be considered unethical.

>How long before we realize that radio broadcasting is in the same situation?

I think this is putting it a bit strongly.  The broadcasting industry as a
whole is NOT going away.  A course like this might give someone enough
exposure to the industry to make an intelligent decision about whether to
pursue broadcasting as a career.  I think that colleges should teach this
to give students another way into the industry besides "knowing someone".
I am also not ready to accept that there will be 25% fewer jobs in the
industry.  The need for on-air dorks may be reduced, but someone has still
got to produce the programming for the automated station.

Maybe the answer is training with a more technical emphasis.  Teach broadcast
engineering and maintenance instead.  Talk about a field that is hard to
get into!  Someone has still got to keep all this automatic stuff operating.

Mike Harpe
University of Louisville
--
Michael Harpe, Programmer/Analyst      Information Technology
[e-mail]             University of Louisville
[phone]                          Louisville, Ky. 40292
"He's not a man, he's a remorseless eating machine!" - The Simpsons

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Subject: Re: Teaching Radio UNETHICAL?
From: [e-mail] (Scott Dorsey)
Organization: NASA Langley Research Center and Reptile Farm

In article <2a5g6s$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (David A. Kaye) writes:
>
>: First a little background info, then I'll get to my question.  I'm taking a
>: Broadcast Communication class at our local community college, the main purpose
>: of which is to teach you how to be a radio DJ.  It seems to be a pretty good
>: class so far.  We get to do at least 10 newscasts and 20 hours on the air
>
>Andy's comment leads me to this question:  Is it unethical for colleges
>and high schools to teach radio broadcasting, considering that by the end
>of the decade there will be 25% fewer jobs in the industry?

The purpose of colleges is not to teach students a trade.  They are there
to teach people to think, and not to teach them what to think.  There are
a lot of important things that can be learned through the study of
communications that is applicable in the real world, even for someone not
going into broadcasting.

>The role of high schools and colleges is to prepare people for the
>future.  The future does not appear to be radio broadcasting.  It's all
>but a dead industry.  Sure, people listen, but the wave of the future is
>to eliminate jobs, not expand them, to replace people with technology,
>not hire more DJs.

It's definitely not a growth industry.  I no longer work as a broadcast
engineer, and I would not encourage anyone in their right mind to go into
broadcast engineering with the industry the way it is today.  However, many
of the things which I learned as a broadcast engineer serve me in good
stead in a completely different field.

>While radio stations are not going to disappear, neither have blacksmith
>shops.  But, I don't know of any college (at least not on the West Coast)
>teaching blacksmithing.  To direct a kid toward a future as a blacksmith
>would likely be considered unethical.

That's true, but blacksmithing is still a good way to learn a lot about
metals in general.  I'd recomment that everyone learn how to make a
blacksmith's weld and learn how to identify different steels by their
spark patterns before they go into metallurgy.  It's good to have an
applied background before learning the theoretical material.

>How long before we realize that radio broadcasting is in the same situation?

Actually, there's a big demand for blacksmiths right now in museum work.
It's a lost art, and as a consequence the few people who carry on the
tradition are in good demand.
--scott
--
"C'est un Nagra.  C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."


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