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            Articles in this issue include:

Boston Radio (10-11-93)                    (Mark Shneyder 2-4219)
Seeking    Radio Station cal                (Bernie    Wu)
Re: Car    Stereo Question                    (Rob Schaller)
Class D?                        (GL8574@ACSPR)
Highwater News #7                    (San Francisco Frac)
Why Bash Rush?                        (Scott Seely )
Re: Why    Bash Rush?                    (WDP)
Introducing net    telecom-tech mailing list        (John Higdon)
NOW 2 WMVPS ?                        (DEGLAU    ROBERT )
2 WMVP's Milw and CHI                    (DEGLAU    ROBERT )
When Radio Was                        (Ruchira Datta)
Re: NYC    RATINGS    SUMMER 93                (Ethan Arenson)
Re: Talk Radio,    Pulpit of the ultra-right?        (Jim Haynes)

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Subject: Boston Radio (10-11-93)
From: [e-mail] (Mark Shneyder 2-4219)
Organization: Unknown

*The summer ratings are in. Here's how they stand :

In the 12+ group :

1. WXKS-107.9 FM 'KISS-108' (CHR/Top-40) Pyramid Broadcating
2. WBZ-AM 1030 (News/Talk/Info/NFL Patriots) Group W
3. WRKO-AM 680 (All Talk/MLB Red Sox) Atlantic Radio
4. WJMN- 94.5 "Jam'n 94.5"(Dance/Churban) Ardman Broadcasting Corp
5. WMJX-106.7FM 'Magic 106.7' (AC)  Greater Media
6. WBCN-104.1FM 'The Rock of Boston' (AOR) Infinity
7. WBMX-98.5FM 'Mix 98.5' (Hot AC/Motown Classics) Atlantic Radio
8. WODS-103.3FM 'Oldies 103' (Oldies) CBS Inc.
9. WSSH-99.5FM 'WISH 99.5' (Easy Listening AC) Granum Broadcasting
10. WBOS-92.9FM (Soft Rock) Granum Broadcasting


In 25-54 :

1. WMJX-106.7FM
2. WODS-103.3FM
3. WXKS-107.9FM
4. Tie  WBCN-104.1FM
        WBMX-98.5 FM
6.  WBOS-92.9FM
7.  Tie WBZ-AM 1030
        WZLX-100.7(Classic Rock)
9.  WSSH-99.5FM
10. WRKO-680AM

In 18-34 :

1. WXKS-107.9FM
2. WJMN-94.5FM
3. WBCN-104.1FM


- Pyramid's WXKS-107.9FM has been #1 with 12+ and 18-34 groups for both,
spring and summer periods now. However, its shares did slip in the 18-34 group
thanks to an impressive showing by Ardman's outlet WJMN(changed calls from
WZOU on 6/25/93) which began with new dance format on 5/11/93. Not only
WJMN came in second(up from 4th in the spring) in the 18-34 group, its
total overall(12+) listening audience zoomed up from 4.0 in the spring
to an impressive 5.8 in the July-August book. And 'XKS people are probably
as not as cocky as they were in May when 'XKS's GM John Madison declared:
" We're going to kick their butts and close their door. But it's not even
a matter of kicking their butts...it's kicking their butts again!" Well,
I think KISS-108 is KISSing some butt right now...

'JMN is focusing on the 18-29 group known in the radio advertising
circles as 'Generation X'. So far 'JMN's strategy is paying off in a
very big way...

 - Coming and goings :

- Stephen Hill left WILD(Urban). He was a PD with daytime WILD-1090 for
  the past 5 years. He moved to Dallas to host his own 'Urban Gold'
  show on ABC's Satellite Radio Network...

- Kid Valentine left WJMN 94.5 after 2 years to become an evening jock
 at KHKS-FM in Dallas. He'll be replaced in a 7pm-12a slot by Marc "with
 a C" Clark "with no E"....

- As well-detailed(by Scott F. :-) in this group couple of weeks ago,
  Atlantic Radio has revamped line-ups on its 2 major AM stations, WRKO and WHDH.
  Gene Burns will be now heard on a 5(!)-hour tape delay on WRKO starting
  at 8pm since Red Sox are done until next spring...Boston Herald columnist
  Howie Carr is back on the air on 'HDH from 3-7...British import, Victoria
  Jones is history after 1 year on WRKO...Reportedly, next on the block
  are 'RKO's program director David 'Junior' Bernstein and nationally-known
  radio host Tom Leykis whose schtick never caught on in Boston(they don't
  take well to the radio outsiders around these parts :-(...And 70-year old Jerry
  Williams may as well be "getting out of the business". His endless
  shows on taxation and goverment corruption will bring anyone's head
  down in the middle of the PM drive..

* Speaking of 2 major syndicated stars :

-Imus, with a collapsed lung and all, vaulted lifeless WEEI-590AM from
 12th(spring) into fifth place in the morning drive-time. The numbers
 for the rest of WEEI-mus line-up didn't change that much...The Celtics
 who are trying to unload the struggling 5KW sports radio station will
 now attempt to make a full-force effort to fetch a buyer....Imus also
 doubled WEEI-mus 25-54 male audience from 2.6 to 5.1 in the morning drive...

- Howard Stern continues to rule Boston night-time radio! He's number 1
  in the overall 12+, among males 18-34, and now both,males and
  females(that's a schocker!) in the attractive 25-54 group...Stern's
  good summer numbers is an indication of better things to come as far
  as his presence on the Boston airwaves is concerned. 250,000 college
  from NY and NJ invaded Boston in September. Howard should break all
  sorts of records in the fall book...As I predicted when he first arrived
  on WBCN in March, the summer period would be the biggest test for Stern
  as far as his longevity around here goes...He passed the test...With
  soon-departing long-time 'BCN morning voice Charles Laquidara, I think
  Infinity has no choice but place hot Howard in the morning drive...

  By the way, Stern will be profiled on NBC's DateLine on Tuesday(10/12)
  at 10pmEDT.


-Mark


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Subject: Seeking Radio Station cal
From: [e-mail] (Bernie Wu)
Organization: Computers & Dreams BBS  [phone] HST

-> Al> ANy Others?
-> WGN Chicago:  World's Greatest Newspaper.
-> WACO: Waco, Texas.
-> WARE: Ware, Mass.
-> KING Seattle:  King County
WMXV NEW YORK,MIX & VARIETY


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Subject: Re: Car Stereo Question
From: [e-mail] (Rob Schaller)
Organization: Motorola Inc.

<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<STUFF DELETED >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

In reply to Stuart, who is seeking info on a good quality AM car radio.

Unfortunately I have found the same thing to when it comes to car stereo,
that is, the AM tuner section is a mere afterthought in good design.  I
have tried out many car stereo units from many different manufacturers and
my experience has been that factory installed radios, Chrysler in my case,
offers the best performance as far as AM tuner performance goes.  As far as
a radio with analog tuning these days I don't know where you'll find that.
Even with factory installed radios you have to be carefull.  Case and
Point,  I have two factory Chrysler radios both with AM stereo.  One model

I have is the premium stereo which features a  graphic equalizer and
cassette player and the other is a basic AM/FM stereo radio, both have
digital tuning.  The basic radio has  much better performance as far as AM
reception goes.  The other unit isn't selective enough and when you are
several channel spacings away from a strong signal you get some mixing of
signals that produce a horrible distortion that sounds like a buzzing bee.

I am having a service center look into this problem but they claim there is
nothing wrong.  If that is the case then each radio must have different AM
tuner designs.  If push comes to shove you might want to try an auto
graveyard.  this is the only place that I've seen today with car radios
that have analog tuners also they are a lot cheaper than buying from the
dealer and most places will give a waranty on the radio they sell you.  Id
be intersted in whatever responses you get.

Good Luck,

Rob
Email: [e-mail]


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Subject: Class D?
From: [e-mail]
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway

Just as a matter of curiosity, does anyone out there know when it was that the
FCC abolished the Class D liscence for FM, and what the reasons were that they
gave fo doing so?  Also, does anyone know how difficult it was to get one
before they abolished it?  Just curious.

AtDhVaAnNCsE and 73's

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Subject: Highwater News #7
From: [e-mail] (San Francisco Fractal Factory)
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)

Buck Highwater #7 sources, final cut Monday 6pm.


 SANEFREEZE  rept  - China tests nuclear weapon Oct 4
 Hemp News #16
 DOD medical facilities `boondoggle' - SAIC software ripoff
 The UAW & the Ford Contract    - labor loses
 Montana Wilderness Action Alert! - mining, forestry in roadless area
 UPS Pays 2 Million - no more working on lunch hour
 GLAAD/SFBA Media News Briefs --  October 1, 1993
 GLAAD/SFBA Media News Briefs -- September 24, 1993
 RACHEL HW News: Superfund Lawsuits - US will go Bankrupt paying
 FCNL LEGISLATIVE UPDATE 10/08/93
 India: 500,000 Rally Againt GATT - Protect your seed stock
 TIMOR: INDONESIAN TROOPS SET FOREST FIRES
 Why Somalis Hate the UN & US
 Central America Legislative Hotline October 1st
 Guatemalan Military is Smuggling Drugs
 PANUPS: Women and Pesticides
 UK Ploughshares: Cole case sent to High Court
 Death threats to Guatemalans
 Fascists marching in 4 US cities
 FNB: 14 arrested-assault on officer
 South African Pirates
 SA Political Update October 5  1993
 A Columbus Day quote
 SADF/MK visit to USA
 Russian Chronology
 Kenya not protecting Somalis from rape, says study
 SOMALIA: Cynical manipulation
 Middle East Timeline/R. Marshall
 PAX: Bill Ramsey Update #3 (WTR)
 US Customs releases "Hatuey"
 Somalia News Update, No 27
 NicaNet NY Wkly Update #182 10/3/93
 Ramsey: Conscience and Community
 Somalia News Update, No 26
 Haiti Info v2n3
 HandsNet WEEKLY DIGEST 9/26-10/1
 Women Workers at Honduran Maquilladora Factory

 We are going to a half hour format from 15 because
of music and so much news.
Again, if you can broadcast and would like a copy
of the tape, please send land-mail address.

The sources for the show are available from
ftp netcom.com; cd pub/andyrose; get Oct15


In our efforts to uncover and reveal news, we've run into many
lies, coverups, deceits, propoganda, and manipulations.
The more we read from alternative sources like In These Times,
the Progressive, the Nation, Public Citizen, Z magazine,
CAIB, and electric sources like misc.activism.progressive
and alt.org.food-not-bombs, the less the news in The New
York Times, The Washington Post, The San Francisco
Chronicle/Examiner, and electronic sources like CNN,
ABC, NBC, CBS, FOX, etc seem true.

I am greatly disheartened that what I felt to be "all the
news fit to print" has become a sham in my estimation.  I
used to live and breathe the NYT and now I can't.  But do
I dispare?  No way.
            -Buck

Buck doesn't read UN or US sources, quote cops, or talk
NAFTA.  Buck can't handle the mideast right now, nor Russia.
Buck does the earth, the labor, people's unity, women's issues
and peace.

Broadcasters in these cities are airing Highwater/Freelander news:
please welcome these subscribers:

Wayne, NJ
WPFW Washington DC 20001
WEOS Hobart & William Smith Geneva, NY
Hamilton Ontario
Amsterdam The Netherlands
Spring Valley CA
Peace Radio Int'l Miami FL - Costa Rica
Salt Lake City UT
La Honda, CA
Los Altos Hills, CA
Hoboken NJ
College St, TX
Free Radio Berkeley ' 1442 A Walnut St. #406 ' Berkeley, CA 94709
Grahamstown,  South Africa
San Francisco Liberation Radio
Ragged Mountain Liberation Radio, Southington CT
WZRD Chicago, IL
Petaluma, CA
NY Transfer News  NY NY
Tucson AZ
Student Union ' U Idaho ' Moscow ID
SUNY Stoneybrook  Stoneybrook NY


-a

--
Walk lightly over the earth answering that of God in everyone -G. Fox
{and its net-equivalent}


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Subject: Re: #404 Airwaves Radio Journal
From: Scott Seely <[e-mail]>
Organization: Unknown

I have been reading this journal for a while now.  I am amazed at the numbers
of people lambasting Limbaugh.  Believe it or not, the man speaks about things
that a large portion of the country believe is true.  His idealogy is that
of the majority of talk radio listeners.  That is why he is so popular.  The
country may be evenly split politically speaking, but for those who really
enjoy politics, Rush is the answer.  Regardless of what you may have been
told, the man is more of a centrist than King ever was.  Now, if you do not
listen to Rush, you will not know what he really is.

His show draws an audience for a few different reasons.  One is he helps
keep his listeners up on politics.  He fairly represents both sides of
an argument and then explains what the effects should be.  He tells you
sources to check if you disbelieve him.  If he is found to be an error, an
event which he broadcasts on an almost daily basis, he admits it and
apologizes to his audience.  Another reason he is popular is because he is
funny.  Obviously, he is more on the Republican side of things as this is his
political leaning, but he is irreverant to both sides.  Remember, most
of the people who listen to political oriented talk are centrists, usually
with a Republican leaning.  The other reason he is the most popluar talk
show host in the history of radio is because the people who like him talk
about him.  It's called word of mouth publicity.

So, if you really think he is awful, try giving him six weeks of your time
before making that opinion final.  Otherwise, admit that you don't like
what you've heard, but can't form an opinion because you've never really
listened to him.  This isn't like drugs where you know what happens from
seeing others or crime, killing, etcetera.  This can do no harm to anyone,
hence you need to experience it to know.  During the six week trial, a half hour
every other day is all that is really needed to form an opinion.  And if you
don't like him, remember,  you can change the station.  When he loses
popularity, he'll disappear from the airwaves.  Until then, between 12-3 EST,
don't listen if you don't like him.  But I thnk you might.

Scott Seely
[e-mail]


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Subject: Re: Why Bash Rush?
From: [e-mail] (WDP)
Organization: Airwaves



[Author's Note:  Please be aware that all references to "Rush Limbaugh,
Rush or Limbaugh are in reference to his radio show.  I have no way of
knowing him personally, therefore no personal judgments are intended,
or implied.  Bill]

Scott Seely typed:

>I am amazed at the numbers of people lambasting Limbaugh.  Believe it or
>not, the man speaks about things that a large portion of the country believe
>is true.  His ideology is that of the majority of talk radio listeners.  That
>is why he is so popular.

Rush Limbaugh is popular because he offers his public simple, binary choices
in a complicated and multi-sided world.  Rush neatly sifts the landscape of
life into two basic identities, Liberal and Conservative.  Or to put it more
bluntly, Bad Guys and Good Guys.   He defines the boundaries of who falls into
what category and then tells his hungry listeners that all their problems are
the result of "THE LIBERALS".   In the world according to Rush, there ARE
only these two basic ideologies and *everything* must fall into one of them.

Most people are thrilled to find a faceless group to project all their
quandaries upon, to cast all blame upon and to neatly package in one bag and
toss it over their shoulder.  That is the basis of racism.  In Rush's case,
he does not cut along racial lines (I do not think Rush is a racist), instead
Rush uses the framework of racism and inserts different criteria.  In
other words, whether it is blacks and whites, liberal and conservative, or any
thing else, the structure is the same.  "WE" are better than "THEM". With the
Limbaugh ideology, you no longer need to listen to both sides and determine
for yourself which parts of which argument is for you.  Rush has cut up your
steak into nice tasty bite-sized portions and is spoon feeding it to his
listeners.  And the listeners eat it up.

>The country may be evenly split politically speaking, but for those who
>really enjoy politics, Rush is the answer.

** NO ** *YOU* are the answer. You have a mind of your own, don't hand it
over to Rush!   It both saddens and frightens me that some
form of the above statement "Rush is the answer" is so common among his
listeners.  Remember this, the same sort of messianic popular response is
what got Adolf Hitler elected (yes kiddies, he WAS elected).

NO, I am NOT saying that Rush is Hitler.  Hardly.  But he is not
the messiah either.  Rush is entertaining, without a doubt.  He is very
intelligent and does say a lot of very right-on things.  But he
appeals to the fear in people and the prejudice. Also, he is, after
all, a syndicated talk show host, not a guru, not a savior.

>Regardless of what you may have
>been  told, the man is more of a centrist than King ever was.

Rush?!?!?  A Centrist?!?!?  HA HA HA HA HA!  Oh that is a good one, Rush
Limbaugh, a centrist.  Oh god, that hurts to laugh that hard.

As far as his comparison to King, I cannot say.  I never felt any political
leaning from King (Larry, I assume you mean).  Larry just took calls in a
rotation and had very little to say.  I see Rush and Larry's show as being
totally opposite formats.  But, please, you cannot be so Rushypnotized as to
actually believe that Rush is any sort of a centrist.   Rush Limbaugh is the
unofficial spokesman and chief PR man for the Republican Party and the
New Right. How anyone could call Rush a centrist with a straight face
is hard for me to fathom.

>Now, if you do
>not listen to Rush, you will not know what he really is.

I totally agree.  I think one should know about what one discusses
I've listened daily for the first couple of years that he was on here
in Chicago and at least weekly in the past year.  I have tapes of his
shows.  I DO know the product I am discussing.  I realize that many do
not really listen to the show before judging it.  This is ignorant.

Ironically, though, that is exactly what Rush asks his listeners to do on a
daily basis.  He tells them that *HE* will think for them and that HE will
tell them what to think about a given issue.  He ridicules and puts
down ALL thought systems which do not follow his, and assigns the "bad
groups" cute, sarcastic and pejorative manes, so as to separate them
even further from their reality.

>His show draws an audience for a few different reasons.  One is he helps
>keep his listeners up on politics.

Rush draws an audience for many reasons, that is true, but I feel very sorry
for the soul who uses the Rush Limbaugh show to "keep up on politics".

Rush draws an audience because A) He is clever.  B) He appeals to the part of
each of us that seeks a simple, easy to swallow answer to complex problems.
c)Rush's show is a drug, a sedative that lulls the mind into a complacent,
'everything is gonna be fine" stupor and numbing the mind to any
argument which would intrude on this euphoria.   Rush strikes me as
sort of a modern day Nero, who would fiddle as Rome burned.  Only Rush is
fiddling on 600 stations and asking his millions to buy fiddles, sit back
and ignore the burning city.

Another reason he has a large audience is that he gives his show away for
free.  So if you had a 500 watt station in cow country, would you not take
the show?  I probably would have.

>He fairly represents both sides of an argument and then explains what the
>effects should be.

Oh, c'mon, Rush's show is as partisan as partisan gets.  He makes no bones
about it.

Ever wonder why you seldom actually hear a caller say "Good Bye" on Rush's
show?  That is because Rush tells the engineer to fade down the caller as
Rush makes HIS point followed by "thanks for the call... BACK after these...
<fade to commercial>.  This is SO manipulative.  The only callers to get
to say good-bye are small children and women who fawn all over him.

>He tells you sources to check if you disbelieve him.

First, we know that less than 1% of any audience will ever check sources.

Second, It is Rush, not the 1 in a million listener that checks on something,
who is in control of the microphone which has over 600 transmitters
connected to it.  Who do you suppose will get the last word?

Third, it is not Rush's 'facts' which are suspect, it his
interpretations. These cannot be sourced out.  They are his personal
opinions.

>If he is found to be an error, an event which he broadcasts on an almost
daily basis, he admits it and apologizes to his audience.

Again, opinions are not wrong or right.  They are just opinions.

>Another reason he is popular is because he is funny.

He certainly is funny.  I do appreciate his political humor and parody.
However a lot of it is very harsh and even unwarrantedly cruel.
The thread of "our club VS Their club' permeates all of the Rush humor and
IMHO it is just another ingredient of the persuasion campaign.  Also, since
Rush has one point of view and one only, even the parody gets a little old
sometimes.

>Obviously, he is more on the Republican side of things as
> this is his political leaning, but he is irreverent to both sides.

Um, can you name for me one time he was irreverent to a Republican?

I cannot see where you base this statement.  My experiences of the
Limbaugh show is that he virtually NEVER says anything bad about the
Republicans, and never says anything good about the Democrats, or to
anyone who is on the other side of Rush's invisible fence.  He bows
and kisses the ground that Republicans walk on and plants land mines
in the path of anyone else.

>Remember, most of the people who listen to political oriented talk are
>centrists, usually with a Republican leaning.

Who's numbers are these, Rush's?  Besides, there is very little else on the
talk radio dial these days.  Oh, Bob Lassiter where are you when we need you?

>The other reason he is the most popular talk show host in the history of
>radio is because the people who like him talk about him.  It's called word of
>mouth publicity.

Another reason is that he has free use of over 600 stations every day in
real time.  He has, as we say, bought the pot.  He is there all the time,
naturally that will have a lot to do with popularity.

>So, if you really think he is awful, try giving him six weeks of your time

[Almost verbatim repeat of a regular Rush feature of "Give me 6 weeks",
deleted]

>This isn't like drugs where you know what happens from seeing others or
>crime, killing, etcetera.

Actually, it is like drugs.  People get lulled in and start to judge
the outside world, NOT as a collection of people, but a bunch of file
folders and absolute paths.

>This can do no harm to anyone,

It can do harm if you relinquish control of your objectivity to someone who
gives you simple 'no-brainer' answers to mind-boggling questions.

>And if you don't like him, remember,  you can change the station.

True, you can change the station, but what you will probably hear in many
places is another station playing Rush.  In many rural places he is heard on
several stations at once.  Or you might hear G. Gordon Liddy, who has Rush's
basic political leanings, but absolutely NO fun!  In Chicago, we are lucky
enough to have a decent variety of stuff to listen to, not so in may other
places.

>Don't listen if you don't like him.  But I thnk you might.

I think everyone should have the chance to hear Rush, I just wish there were
some viable alternatives to his one-sided world view.

As I have said in my past 'Rush Rants', I am equally as turned off by the
left-wing extremists.  They and their Political Correctness (really just
another way to limit free thought and expression) are just as ridiculous and
damaging as anything the right can dish out.  What would be great (IMHO) is
someone who is neither right OR left, but who thinks for him/her self.
Someone who is not too lazy to form an opinion, and encourages the listeners
to form THEIR OWN opinions, and not just parrot some mindless party-line and
call it truth.

A talk show which celebrated the wide diversity of opinion and promoted the
idea of talking TO each other instead of throwing around sarcastic nicknames
and talking AT each other.  Someone to make the point that we all have to
live on the same piece of cosmic rock, if we cannot get along, at least let's
not stifle dialogue.  After all, isn't dialogue what talk radio is all about?

You may now turn your hymn books to page 46.

(oh BTW, <<grin>>)

Bill

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Subject: Introducing net telecom-tech mailing list
From: [e-mail] (John Higdon)
Organization: Green Hills and Cows


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Subject: NOW 2 WMVPS ?
From: DEGLAU ROBERT <[e-mail]>
Organization: Milwaukee Area Technical College

It appears that WLUP AM 1000 IS NOW WMVP, they got the call
letters from WMVP 1290 in Milwaukee, but as of this sunday
AM WMVP (1290) is still using them.....
figure this one out?




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Subject: 2 WMVP's Milw and CHI
From: DEGLAU ROBERT <[e-mail]>
Organization: Milwaukee Area Technical College

So WLUP has changed there call sign to WMVP,
Milwaukee also has a WMVP at 1290
Figure this one out?



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Subject: When Radio Was
From: [e-mail] (Ruchira Datta)
Organization: U.C. Berkeley Math. Department.

I sometimes listened to "When Radio Was" (with Art Flemming) on
(the Bay Area's) Magic 61, but it doesn't seem to be on anymore
since they changed hands.  Is there somewhere else I can tune
to to catch it?  I am usually listening in Concord.  I can
generally catch Sacramento stations and strong LA stations
(specifically KNX and KFI).  Please email me as I do not read
this newsgroup.

ADVthanksANCE

Ruchira Datta
[e-mail]


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Subject: Re: NYC RATINGS SUMMER 93
From: [e-mail] (Ethan Arenson)
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA

As long as we're talking about arbitron ratings, does anyone have
Summer 93 ratings for (1) the San Francisco and (2) the Los Angeles
metropolitan areas?

:)


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Subject: Re: Talk Radio, Pulpit of the ultra-right?
From: [e-mail] (Jim Haynes)
Organization: University of California; Santa Cruz


In article <297suc$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (William A.
    Goldsmith) writes:
>badly needs is a voice from the left that is articulate, entertaining, and
>persuasive enough to draw a nationwide audience equal to Limbaugh's.

And it's what we aren't likely to get, because the left is so Serious,
so Intellectual, so Angry, so...
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"Ya can talk all ya wanna, but it's dif'rent than it was!"
"No it aint!  But ya gotta know the territory!"
        Meredith Willson: "The Music Man"



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