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Ultrasound Daily Digest     Tue, 12 Oct 93  0:48 MDT     Volume 7: Issue  11

Today's Topics:
                            16-bit samples
                          7th guest and GUS
                   Correction only SSG mail bounced
      DIGEST ADMIN: TRUNCATED DIGESTS (yesterday, in particular)
                       Doom and GUS support...
                         GUS Assault - Again.
                GUS Assault - Disappointing Responses.
                      Gus Assault; Access reply
                             GUS Support
                     GUS Support cont.. (2 msgs)
                       Help with Sierra Drivers
                            JPIERSON - ID
                      Missing notes under windo
                      My Letter for the Blizzard
                           Nice Job Gravis
                   Obscene language not acceptable!
                     ositive Post: Better Patches
                        People complaining...
                       Second Reality (3 msgs)
                          Second Reality!!!
               Some good responses from game companies
                              Subscribe
                     The future of sound (2 msgs)
                   Weird GUS problem/games question
                         WinJammer Questions
                   WSD2SND - where can I find it ?

Standard Info:
    - Meta-info about the GUS can be found at the end of the Digest.
    - Before you ask a question, please READ THE FAQ.

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Date: (null)
From: [e-mail]
Subject: 16-bit samples

        Has anyone put up 16 bit samples for the ultratracker on epas? Does any
one have any samples of that nature that they would be willing to send me or po
st on the FTP. I'm at [e-mail]. Thanx for any and all responses.
Mark

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Date: Mon, 11 Oct 93 20:38:36 +1000
From: Peter William Sureda <[e-mail]>
Subject: 7th guest and GUS
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

I'm trying to get 7th guest to work with my Gus , I have t7gfix3 and have installed it , but there is no option for Gravis..
What do I have to do ?

[e-mail]

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Date: (null)
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Correction only SSG mail bounced

I had previosly said most my mail bounced to the
games companies - I was wrong only SSG bounced
anyone know the correct address, I had
[e-mail] ?

James
Internet: [e-mail]

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Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1993 13:25:39 -0600 (CDT)
From: [e-mail] (Dave DeBry)
Subject: DIGEST ADMIN: TRUNCATED DIGESTS (yesterday, in particular)
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

    Heya, folks.

    As most of you know, the digest yesterday got truncated.  I
said it once, I'll say it again: NEVER, EVER, ON ANY PIECE OF MAIL ON
THE INTERNET, SHOULD YOU PUT A PERIOD AT THE BEGINNING OF THE LINE.

    Ok, I've said my peace.  Now I'll go fix the code to handle it
the next time some @#%&* goes and enters a message exactly like I just
told them not to.

    (We here at the Digest DO NOT believe in "Garbage In, Garbage
Out", thank you very much.  :)

    Also, here is the rest of yesterday's digest.

> Date: Sun, 10 Oct 93 15:27:01 EDT
> From: Michael Sabia <[e-mail]>
> Subject: my mistake
> Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
>
> yesterday, i sent in a message about the origin address [e-mail]
> not working;  my mistake, it does seem to work.  must have been one
> of the other addresses that bounced me.
>
> mike
> .

[ Ed.: Look!  There it is!  The offending period! ]

> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Sun, 10 Oct 93 10:18:18 CDT
> From: [e-mail]
> Subject: Re: Origin & Crappy Coding
> Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
>
> I'd just like to take a time-out on the Origin bashing going on here to
> say that YES, most of their games are written poorly, and even when
> they're written with some kind of standard in mind, they're full of bugs.
>
> However, they have written one game that I was quite happy with, and still
> have not sold, in case I ever want to replay it.  That game is Ultima
> Underworld II.  Using the Miles Drivers, and setup for Roland & SB-combo,
> this game requires only 575K free.  A definite improvement over the 620K
> they usually demand.  And the music is quite good as well.
>
> However, I believe UUWII was not an entirely in-house effort at Origin.
>
> Michael
> [e-mail]
> University of Manitoba
> Department of Computer Engineering
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Sun, 10 Oct 93 18:31:38
> From: [e-mail]
> Subject: Origin address
> Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
>
> To: [e-mail]
> Subject: Origin Address
>
> >Date: Sat, 9 Oct 93 11:58:02 EDT
> >From: Michael Sabia <[e-mail]>
> >Subject: origin email address
> >Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
>
> >i am not having much luck with the address   [e-mail];
>
> >any ideas?
>
> Hm..  Try [e-mail]
>
> ---
>    ______        __
>   (__  __) ~CG~ / /     |  Internet: [e-mail]
>  _  / /        / /      |            [e-mail]
> ( \/ /        / /__     |
>  \__/ASON    (_____)IN  |  Fidonet:  1:102/837
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Sun, 10 Oct 93 11:17:23 -0500
> From: [e-mail]
> Subject: Second Reality
> Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
>
> GET SECOND REALITY.  I have a 386/40 and an ATI Graphics Ultra Pro..
> It is incredible.. the sound is amazing. it is in DOLBY PRO LOGIC with
> FULL SURROUND SOUND!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>
> And only on the gus!! :>  (with 512k)
>
>
> And to the person who had the slowdown, I have a slowdown only in the screen
> with the 2 many faceted balls are bouncing around.. and even then it is
> VERY minor..
>
> (if you only have 256k on your gus.. UPGRADE NOW! you will love
> Second Reality)
>
> Future Crew is awesome.
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Sun, 10 Oct 1993 10:32:12 -0600 (MDT)
> From: [e-mail] (Jim Knepley)
> Subject: Shelling Origin with Email
> Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
>
> Just a quick note to those of you who are thinking about overrunning
> Origin's mailbox with letters of GUS advocacy.
>
> It's been done, don't bother.  Back in the days of the v1.21 install disks,
> a whole bunch of GUS affectionados sent out email to all of the major
> players in PC games.  The responses ranged from "I'll pass your suggestion
> on" to "Sierra will never, ever, ever, support the GUS" to "You stinking
> SOB, why are you flooding our mailbox?" to "The GUS in a good card, but
> wait until you see _our_ proprietary card."
>
> Sierra now has GUS support, but I doubt it was from our efforts.  Remember
> folks, the people on the 'net are TECH SUPPORT.  They're not PR, they're
> not programmers.  They could CARE LESS if a product from their company
> supports just one more soundcard.  They'd probably prefer to not support
> the GUS because installation can be kinda' tricky if you're not good with
> a PC.
>
> Do what you want, I don't presume to be a moderator, but just know that
> your efforts will not have the effect that you want.  Snailmail is a lot
> better, that way you can address it to a PR person.  At best, email will
> get you a canned response.
>
> Jim
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1993 10:10:16 +1000
> From: David Vu <[e-mail]>
> Subject: Re: Still hanging in there, but for how long?
> Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
>
> > Of the things you've mentioned, only Star Control II supports the GUS in
> > native mode. And it doesn't work properly with anything but 256K on the
> > GUS. Everything else is either a hack (AIL with a 56K TSR) or shareware
> > third-party (MegaEm) that has it's own set of problems.
>
> I don't think AIL is a hack.  It is a standard AIL device driver used by most
> games.  The problem with AIL is it takes up a bit of memory (I've got no
> problem).  Second, it doesn't come standard with all AIL software, simply
> because the games have been shipped before it was available (now it's
> on almost every sound BBS).  And lastly, some comparies like Origin hack
> their own version of AIL driver so that the standard wouldn't work on
> their games.
>
> > By "native support", people mean that it supports the GUS right out of the
> > box without the user running ANYTHING EXTRA. A game that takes 600K of
> > conventional memory doesn't leave me with 56K for UltraMID.
>
> I 'd say the games are to be blamed for taking up too much of conventional
> memory.  There are tons of XMS/EMS memory there, why don't game
> companies make use of it.  Sidekick ver 1.5x only took up about 100K when
> the world of PC only had DOS 3.x and 512/640K RAM.  I hear people say,
> 'But games need all the conventional memory to process 3D and all the
> graphics!'
>
> > Adaptec SCSI card (hardly uncommon), Mega 'Em is a risk (it's not Jason's
> > fault, but it's still true). In other words, if it doesn't list Gravis
> > UltraSound on the box, it doesn't support the GUS, at least as far as the
> > game-buying public is concerned.
>
> I think that situation is changing now that Sierra, Virgin, and Maxim have
> begun to include support and free patches.
>
> > And Gravis had better get support into some new games quickly or it won't
> > matter anymore...
>
> Like I said, it doesn't take a month or two to write games nowadays.  It
> used to take that long for things like Space Invaders and the occasional
> shareware and public domain offerings.  Given the success of the Roland
> and that big Sierra have committed themselves to support the GUS, soon
> games from Origin, Lucas Arts, and other companies are sure to follow.
> Especially companies that already have General MIDI music support in
> their current games.
>
> Also, look at the hosts of new wave-table-synthesis me-too sound
> boards that are starting to pop up now.  The only thing they have over
> the GUS is hardware SB compatibility.  People are beginning to want
> to buy these, and they aren't out yet :-)
>
> .David.

[ Ed.: Look!  Another person doing the same thing!  Quick, flog him! ]

> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Sun, 10 Oct 1993 22:32:20 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Ouch!  Quit pokin' me! <[e-mail]>
> Subject: Tony LaRussa II
> Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
>
> OK, I just re-installed the game (I took it off my HD before I bought my GUS).
> It has an option during setup specifically for the GUS, so, naturally, I
> selected it.  At first I tried it with different sounds/music combos, heck,
> I even tried it w/ SB chosen for everything.  The problem is, I can't play
> a game.  The sound loads with the intro screen, but then disappears.  I
> can do everything except play a game.  I can manage, do drafts, run
> seasons statistically, etc.  but I can't play a friggin game!  Every time
> I try, it puts the message "Loading...Please Wait" on the screen, the HD
> spins for a while, then... nothing.  Quite eerie actually.
>
>     I tried it with options -x(-3), -o(-3).  Hell, I even tried it
> with EMM disabled (well, it worked with Syndicate!  ;)  ).  The only time
> I can play a game now is if I disable the sbos.
>
>     Everything is installed at the defaults, I have a 486/25, 4MB RAM,
> blonde hair, blue eyes, etc.etc.  Please help!!!  This is driving me buggy!
>
>     I'm not being a whiner, I love this card.  I hate games that don't
> work like they are supposed to.
>
>     Thank you very much in advance!
>
> chris
> [e-mail]
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Sat, 9 Oct 1993 23:17:00 -0400
> From: [e-mail] (Colin Buckley)
> Subject: Ultramid programming info
> Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
>
> Where do I find programming information for Ultramid?  I've glanced over
> alot of GUS source, and while it wouldn't be a problem to play sound effects
> or voice over the GUS, playing midi files would look to be a huge problem
> at the moment, and I need to add this very quickly with minimal problems, or
> it's no support at all.
>
> Normally I would laugh at a TSR, but if the AIL and Sierra drivers use it,
> then it's good enough for now.
>
> Is it just a low level interface with commands like NoteOn and NoteOff (like
> the Adlib's TSR), or does one just pass a MIDI file (like Creative Lab's TSR)
> and ULTRAMID does everything?
>
> As a last resort though, I could do the sound effect driver, and let the
> user choose FM music and use SBOS, but then I suspect SBOS will clash with
> my GUS driver and we'll overwrite each other's RAM, voices, etc.
> .------------------------------------------------------.
> | Colin Buckley                                        |
> | Toronto, Ontario, Canada  ([e-mail]) |
> `------------------------------------------------------'

[ Ed.: The error here is left as an exercise to the reader. ]

> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Sun, 10 Oct 1993 10:35:40 -0400
> From: Bill Norton <[e-mail]>
> Subject: Re: Ultrasound Daily Digest V7 #9
> Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
>
> Do any of you know how to make the GUS come up automatically with Line
> and Mic input enabled?  I currently have to invoke the UltraSound Mixer
> and turn on Line input to play CDs on my system and it is a pain!
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Sun, 10 Oct 93 21:01:00 BST
> From: [e-mail]
> Subject: Ultrasound Daily Digest V7 #9
> Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
>
>         Alright you guys: I _love_ my GUS! I've had it 1 year now, yes I
> want more native, but its happening. I have not had problems with any games
> except FPSports Football, F-15III digital (now fixed) and Privateer (who
> dumped out on us anyway, so PHOOEY!) I have not had conflicts, windows
> crashes, etc. And this is my first clone, and first soundcard, I defected
> from the Amiga camp, and tsr's etc. are new to me! I have plenty of local
> friends I get to visit and hear their measly SB Pros.
>
>         I recently got EA's Seal Team and MAN! Even tho its miles drivers,
> it sounds friggin' _fabulous_! And it's a great game, so ta hell with Origin
> and their 20th century mentality. Look for Seawolf by EA to also have
> Ultrasound support. Thanks Electronics Arts!
>
> [e-mail]:
>         Thanx for keeping us posted, man it was getting almost depressing
> here for a day or two <G>. (Are Gravis and Jayeson still friendly?)
>
> Shan Yap:
>         Great work on the list, I have emailed all companies on that list
> for GUS support. Hehe, I kept on hearing in my mind Led Zeppelin singing "If
> it keep own rainin', levee's gownna braaaake..." I also emailed you the
> short note so you can keep count. COME ON everyone; what 30 minutes to do
> this flood thing, let's _do it_! Do it _now_, while you're thinking about
> it, and so we hit 'em about the same time-span.
>
>         How 'bout everyone who loves their GUS posting a quick one-liner
> here on the digest? Lurkers included <G>...Go GUS GO!
>                        -----------------------------
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Sun, 10 Oct 93 16:23:52 EDT
> From: [e-mail] (Rodney CHANG)
> Subject: undocumented parameters in playmidi?
> Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
>
> Greetings!  I know for awhile now that using the -x(n) parameter in
> playmidi lets you set the number of active voices, but I couldn't find
> anything about it in either the readme file or the manual that were
> mailed w/ the v2.06 disks.  I also remember reading about some other switches
> that I don't think were documented either.  Are there many of these
> undocumented switches?
>
> On to other things:
> Someone mentioned about dropped voices while playing midi files in
> Windows.  I have my drivers set up for 32 voices, and conserve
> memory.  However, I'm in the process of transcribing a song right
> now.  This song has steady 8th note hi-hats.  Whenever I play it with
> Cakewalk 2.0 thefirst hi-hat beat of some measures are mute.  Same
> thing with WinJammer.  Using media player and playmidi in dos would give me
> only an occasional hi-hat, and other voices are not articulated
> correctly (slurred when they're not suppose to).  What seems to be the
> problem?  Too slow a computer?
>
> I remembered reading about a new cakewalk mailing list just starting
> to circulate, but I lost the address to subscribe.  Any kind GUSers
> can tell me?
>
> Merci mucho for help.
>
>
> --
> Rodney Chang
> RushFan(tm)
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Sun, 10 Oct 93 18:31:33
> From: [e-mail]
> Subject: Unreal ii
> Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
>
> To: [e-mail]
> Subject: Unreal II
>
> >Date: Sun, 10 Oct 1993 13:05:22 +1000
> >From: adriano ennio raiola <[e-mail]>
> >Subject: SECOND REALITY - Sounds great, runs BADLY (386/40)
> >Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
>
> >Well can I say, on my humble 386/40Mhz with Cirrus Logic VGA, I had to
> >wait like nearly eternity even for the title screen to come up! The
> >music is GREAT (considering its only a demo with shitty 4 channel MOD
> >music), but something tells me somethings wrong with the demo, because
> >it runs SOOOOOO SLOOOOWLY on my 386/40.  Even the music slows down to
> >try keep pace.
>
> Hmm..  The demo runs quite well on my 486DX-25.  Isn't 386DX-40's speed
> comparable to that of a 25mhz 486DX?
> Try to run the demo under a clean booted DOS, though the demo should run
> fine with or without the presence of an EMM manager.
>
> ---
>    ______        __
>   (__  __) ~CG~ / /     |  Internet: [e-mail]
>  _  / /        / /      |            [e-mail]
> ( \/ /        / /__     |
>  \__/ASON    (_____)IN  |  Fidonet:  1:102/837
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1993 15:02:18 +0930 (CST)
> From: Gavin <[e-mail]>
> Subject: Whinge, whine -go away!
> Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
>
> Gunnar Swanson <[e-mail]> writes...
> > Get an SB Pro or a PAS16 it works now, that's what I tell people.
>
> Well, I helped setup a friends SBPRO on the weekend and found the
> card to be DIFFICULT to install under windows,it had buggy windows
> drivers that had to be replaced which Creative Labs did not, rather
> Microsoft did. The sound quality is shit and the polyphony a joke. Why
> they included a MIDI interface is obvious - you don't use this card
> for music. The drums are on channel 16! Is is not GM MIDI compatible,
> and I can't see any use for this card except games which after my MT32
> and GUS I wouldn't take the card if it was free. So stop slanging the
> GUS for not being SB compatible, who needs it! And when I got my MT32
> Roland had stopped making them a couple of years before and they still
> hadn't got support in noticable numbers of games. It's only been the
> last 2 years that most games supported it. I used to get sick of
> people on the net saying " when's the GUS gonna be released?", what'd
> you expect, instant games support? A year in the software industry is
> a very short time, just look how long Doom's been in the making and
> that's one of the games that will support the GUS. There may be more
> GUSs out there that MT32/LAPC1, support for quality will come. Also
> how many games support the SBPRO in Stereo? Damn few!  The squeaky
> wheel may get fixed, but you shouldn't flog a dead horse.
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Sun, 10 Oct 1993 07:22:02 -0400 (EDT)
> From: [e-mail]
> Subject: Zork DEMO
> Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
>
> Anybody know of any FTP sites I can get The Zork demo off of?
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Sun, 10 Oct 1993 17:51:33 -0400
> From: [e-mail]
> Message-ID: <199310102151.AA19528@prism>
>
> I changed my DMA from 1 to 5, and the GUS seems to work a little
> better but it could all be in my imagination.  What effect would it do
> for me to change from an 8 bit DMA to a 16 bit DMA.
>
> Also, I hardly ever have problems with my Ultrasound except with a
> few games that don't work too well with SBOS.  I couldn't even use
> half of my games before a friend in my dorm gave me the update to
> SBOS.  I was using version 1.2ary to September!
>
> ------------------------------
>
> End of Ultrasound Daily Digest V7 #10
> *************************************

--
Dave  ddebry@ debry@   \
DeBry dsd.    peruvian. | "A jar of eyes can be a tasty treat."
      es.     cs.utah.  |
      com     edu      /

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Date: (null)
From: [e-mail] (law00057)
Subject: Doom and GUS support...



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Date: (null)
From: [e-mail] (Shan Yap)
Subject: GUS Assault - Again.

Greetings,
   Due to my untimely lecture (yes, I do have a life beside organising
Assaults :-) ), my previous message was unable to make it to the
yesterday's Digest, just ignore it now.
   Anyway, the Assault will be over by the time you see this message and I
sure hope that a lot more of you have choosed to participate, at this time
of writing there are only 25 participants.
   I would also like to acknowledge here that the list of addresses of
software publishers which I posted on Sunday, is in fact done by Sir
Launcelot du Lac ([e-mail]), all credits should go to him.
Guess I should have acknowledged that in the first place .... \:-)
   I will post the result of our assault on tomorrow's digest. Stay tune.

To Jim Knepley:
   I know that this Assault may not accomplish anything, but still someone
has got to do the "dirty" work, right? And who knows, our act may just
make it to a higher management level!

Shan.
[e-mail]

Unite and Prosper.

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Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1993 17:28:22 +1000 (EST)
From: [e-mail] (Mr K.S. Yap)
Subject: GUS Assault - Disappointing Responses.
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

Greetings,
   As of the time when I write this, I had only received e-mails from 20
people telling me that they are in the Assault. 20 people ! Come on! I am
sure we can do better than THAT! Don't your guys want GUS to be a sucess?
All I ask is just a few lines of text! If this is the best we can do, then
maybe Origin is right in not supporting the GUS - which indeed has a small
user base.
   I could almost hear the represntative from Origin laughing away,
saying, "Look Dave<-fictitious character, those pathetic GUSers try to
"flood" our mailbox, but the best they can do is to come up with twenty
people, ha ha, support GUS? It's my A** that you want me to support!"<-
fictitious dialogue, no offence intended. :-)
   Anyway, we'll still carry out our Assault as planned - Tomorrow when
the Digest arrives. I hope that more people will decide to participate in
this event by then. Hope to hear from you soon !

Shan.
[e-mail]

Unite and Prosper.

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Date: (null)
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Gus Assault; Access reply

        Mark Werner, Access Software tech support ([e-mail])
quickly replied to my GUS assault mail as follows "We will probably be
supporting the GUS on all future releases." Yay! (Hmm, anyone know what
"future releases" they've got in the works?...)

        BTW y'all, do keep those assault emails short, civil and sweet,
these guys may actually be getting a lot of our emails soon if we all,
lurkers included, follow up on this mailing.

             (Down with overly long quotes and signatures!)



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Date: Mon, 11 Oct 93 07:42:00 BST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: GUS Support
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

1>    It's Me again and sending a letter captured from Origin topic on
 Genie.

As follows.....

<Category 16,  Topic 7
 Message 151       Sun Oct 03, 1993
 CHANTECLER [Bruce.F]         at 22:34 EDT

 Rebecca,


 I don't own an Ultrasound but I'll throw in my request for native mode
  support for it and any other forthcoming lower cost wave table boards.  We
  need better sound.  Music in computer games is better than ever but
  listening to it with an FM board is like listening to an orchestra through a
  tin can phone.  We're on the brink of a revolution in game sound and it's
  stalling because of poor support!  Game developers won't support the GUS
  because few people own one.  And people won't buy a GUS because there is
  poor game support.  It's a vicious circle.

You're too young to remember this but color TV stayed in this kind of limbo
  for ten long years.  The networks wouldn't provide support (i.e. color
  programs) because the number of color TVs in use was small.  In turn,
  consumers wouldn't buy color TVs because there were no color programs to
  watch.  The logjam was finally broken when the networks started supporting
  color and that induced people to buy color TVs.  The rest is history.

This isn't a perfect analogy but I hope you see my point.  It's going to take
  developer support to get out of the FM logjam we're in.  Few people will buy a
  wave table card for games unless the hot new titles support it. And without
  wave table boards the great sounds and music your company worked so hard to
  create are largely wasted.

 Please consider this and tell me what you think.  Thanks!>
 ******************************************************************
 This is all they had to say.
 ******************************************************************
 Category 16,  Topic 7
 Message 152       Tue Oct 05, 1993
 ORIGIN                       at 19:16 EDT

 Bruce F.
  Thanks for your input.

 Rebecca The Strange
  Origin Product Support

Cont. in next letter.



------------------------------

Date: Mon, 11 Oct 93 07:50:00 BST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: GUS Support cont..
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

1>Cont..
Everytime I mention Ultrasound support, I get the Cold shoulder act too.
 Mostly they refer me to answers given months ago, makes me wonder
 if the staff at Origin can think for themselves, if it's not a technical question.
 I guess they need their EA lawyers for that!
Gravis if you're reading this, send Origin a package showing the drivers(Mega-em
 and Ultramid) so that at least (If it doesn't get lost) they can't claim that you don't
 have Drivers for Roland and Miles sound source.Give them SDK pakage as well,
then maybe they can test for themselves, if they will take the time.

P.S. I am one of those users , who hasn't had any terrible troubles using the
Ultrasound for DOS or Windows.SBOS aside, The GUS is a Great card.
Gunnar if you don'twant a GUS , don't keep complaining about it, SELL IT!
 This Digest is for airing our views and asking questions ,Yes, but don't keep
 on harping about how SB is greatest thing since White bread. Some of us
LOVE our GUS's and wouldn't trade them for a SB16 for anything! I have given
 freely of my time to fellow GUS users in helping them to get their cards working
 right. And usually it wasn't some great hardware problem,but a missing file here
or there. Which doesn't make the GUS a bad choice as a sound card, just a
solvable problem.

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Date: Mon, 11 Oct 93 07:53:00 BST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: GUS Support cont..
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

1>Cont...
In my opinion, the trouble is software companies like Origin, who don't seem to
care about their customers beyond selling software and supporting FM Synthisis,
 which in my Humble opinion again will very soon go the way of the Dinosaur, not
the GUS. Wavetable is the future mark my words well, and the GUS supports more
channels to be played at once, than any card on the market that I've seen advertised.
 Not to mention not using any CPU time to do it.
Granted I think that Gravis should be seriously thinking about making a new card,
using proven GUS ideas and adding more memory on the card, as well as the next
GF chip to come out.Some time within the next 2 yrs. A card offering more memory,
16bit recording and playback,SCSI CD interface built in and more is the future for the
 GUS card.
For now tho we as Loyal GUS owners need to do as we are trying to do, by pressuring
Software companies like Origin to really take this advancement in sound card technology
seriously. Lets make this year the YEAR OF THE GUS.
Soon tho as Companys like ID , start releasing games using Native Ultrasound Drivers,
 we will see a greater ground swell of support.To hear a GUS playing Native Sound next
 to a SB16's FM synthisis, which would you choose as the better sounding card???
Hopefully Software companies will make the Right Logical decisions SOON!.
MAY THE GUS BE WITH YOU!!!
                                                  ***StarHawk***
                                            " Wielder of the GUS "
                                            " Slayer of the SB "


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Date: Mon, 11 Oct 93 13:23:52 CDT
From: Fitzgerald Jr Steele <[e-mail]>
Subject: Help with Sierra Drivers
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

I downloaded the new Sierra Drivers and tried to install them into King's
Quest 6.  I tried to install ultramid, it told me that all my midi patches
were old and needed to be updated.  It also told me that it might not work
if I have changed any of the original midi patches, which I haven't.  So
anyway, when I try to load ultramid (using the command line lh ultramid -c
-m100) the computer stalls, and I have to reboot.  Was there an update to
the midi patches that Gravis didn't send me?  Where can I get the new
patches?  Also, how much memory does ultramid take -- I know I only have
like 40k UMB free, maybe that had something to do with it...)

Thanks for your help,

Jerry Steele
[e-mail]

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Date: Mon, 11 Oct 93 10:40:12
From: [e-mail]
Subject: JPIERSON - ID
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

Read what JPierson of ID had to say and I'd just like to clear up a few things.

1) Why UltraMID? To make it easier for programmers to program for the card.
   With UltraMID you can load and play a MIDI file in as little as 5
   functions! This includes the patch loading and handling the MIDI data.
   This can save the programmer A LOT of time trying to figure out how to
   do this themselves. Yes ULTRAMID is not the smallest thing in the world
   but it is meant to be an alternative not a perfect solution.

2) The idea of asking Origin for sources was simple. We wanted to help
   them write the drivers. I didn't expect this to work myself but we have
   to make every attempt. Also it wasn't the source code to the game but
   just the sound engine.

3) As for emailing us over the Internet and not getting a response, I'd
   like to know who you were trying to email? I'm sure everyone here on
   the list can vouch that I do keep on top of this. Heck its a long
   weekend here in Canada and how did I spend part of my Sat and Mon? Reading
   the digest and responding to questions? (I know, sounds like fun <grin>)
   But if you had problems reaching us I'd really like to try and fix
   it. I know I'm getting my mail ok, who were you trying to address the
   msg too?

4) Release of Low Level Code - The SDK we released last May is actually
   really good. For 130 pages it better be. If you have any suggestions
   on the areas you thought it was weak in (from a programmers point of
   view) I'd be more than happy to fix it up. We are working on the next
   version of the SDK and any suggestions would be appreciated.

5) How big was your sound engine, 270K did you say? Wow, that is huge.
   Is there a reason why it is that big? Does that include the size of the
   3D sound samples? As a typical engine (according to other developers
   I talked to is about 10K for digital audio and 20-30K for MIDI). I've
   even seen some brave souls manage to make a digital audio player
   (MOD/Protracker type) fit into as little as 3K of memory.

I'm looking forward to hearing back from you, either through the digest or
directly to my email address, [e-mail]. C'ya and take care.

John

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Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1993 07:26:20 -0300 (ADT)
From: Gravis Ultrasound Lover <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Missing notes under windo
Message-ID: <Pine.3.02.9310110718.A2685-a100000@clement>

On Sun, 10 Oct 1993, it was written:

>
> If you're using slower machines you'd notice missing notes frequently.
> On the faster machines, notes may be dropped if you're running multiple
> applications.  On my machine(486DX-25), missing notes may occur even if
> I run only the MIDI player in the foreground.  It is not due to the
> setting of the number of active voices.  It's weird to hear drum, bass,
> or even a couple string notes being skipped..  BTW, 28 is the active
> voices I set under Windows.
>

    My computer is a 486-66 and I'm still missing some notes on random
occasions.  Even if I only have MIDISoft running.  Since I'm using the
PCTools for Windows desktop, I tried shutting every desktops off and the
problem still occurs.  Hmmmm.....

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Date: Mon, 11 Oct 93 12:32:43 PDT
From: [e-mail] (Mike Batchelor)
Subject: My Letter for the Blizzard
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

Remember - Tuesday October 12 is the day to deluge all the game publishers
with requests for Ultrasound support!  Here is a copy of the letter I sent
(will send):

#Subject: Support for Advanced Gravis Ultrasound
#To: [e-mail] (Access Software),
    [e-mail] (Sierra, Dynamix, et. al.),
    [e-mail] (Sierra, Dynamix, et. al.),
    [e-mail] (Sierra, Dynamix, et. al.),
    [e-mail] (Accolade), [e-mail] (Apogee Software),
    [e-mail] (Apogee Software),
    [e-mail] (Electronic Arts),
    [e-mail] (Lucas Arts), [e-mail] (Lucas Arts),
    [e-mail] (Electronic Arts),
    [e-mail] (Epic MegaGames),
    [e-mail] (Epic MegaGames),
    [e-mail] (Id), [e-mail] (Id),
    [e-mail] (Id), [e-mail] (Interplay),
    [e-mail] (Interplay),
    [e-mail] (Maxis), [e-mail] (Maxis),
    [e-mail] (Maxis), [e-mail] (Maxis),
    [e-mail] (MicroProse),
    [e-mail] (MicroProse),
    [e-mail] (Origin Systems), [e-mail] (Origin Systems),
    [e-mail] (Origin Systems),
    [e-mail] (Origin Systems),
    [e-mail] (Spectrum Holobyte),
    [e-mail] (Spectrum Holobyte),
    [e-mail] (Strategic Simulations),
    [e-mail] (Strategic Simulations), [e-mail] (Wizard),
    [e-mail] (Wizard), [e-mail] (Wizard),
    [e-mail] (Three-Sixty),
    [e-mail] (Three-Sixty),
    [e-mail] (Sir-Tech), [e-mail] (SSG)


Attention All Game Publishers!

Support for the Advanced Gravis Ultrasound card in your products is needed!
I am the happy owner of an Ultrasound card, and I am very encouraged by the
recent developments in the area of sound support for this excellent card.

To Sierra:  Thanks VERY much for your recent driver update that allows
previously-released General MIDI games to use the Ultrasound.  Keep them
coming, I am a happy Sierra customer.  Please encourage and assist your
subsidiaries to also adopt Ultrasound support in their products.

To Id Software:  I am anxiously awaiting the releases of DOOM!, which has
already been promised Ultrasound support.  It ought to be fantastic fun!

To Maxis:  Thank you very much for your recent driver updates for Sim City
Classic and Sim Farm.  They never sounded better!  Keep the updates coming,
and please incorporate Ultrasound support in future releases.

To Accolade:  Star Control 2 is still a classic space strategy game, made
all the more enjoyable by native Ultrasound support, the first major release
to have it.  I look forward to other Ultrasound efforts from your company.

To all other publishers:

If you don't support Ultrasound now, please start work on it right away!  I
hope that this letter writing campaign from the readers of the Ultrasound
Internet mailing list helps the representatives who read e-mail to convince
management and the game developers that the market for Ultrasound is not
insignificant.  The card is worthy of support for the same reason Roland MIDI
cards are worthy of support:  both Roland and Ultrasound produce great hifi
music.  Great sound is an important part of a great game package.  Don't
remain stuck in the FM past.  Take a step into the Wavetable future, and
start supporting Ultrasound!

Thanks for your attention to this letter.  I hope it makes an impression on
those persons who make the decisions in these matters.

Regards,

Mike Batchelor
Ultrasound owner, Game purchaser

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-- Quarterdeck Office Systems, Santa Monica, California
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Date: Mon, 11 Oct 93 14:10:31 EST
From: [e-mail] (Cuthalion)
Subject: Nice Job Gravis
Message-ID: <9310111410.0.UUL1.3#[e-mail]>

  I just thought i'd say that I've had my GUS since last november.. and
the only problem i had with was with windows, and it's really not
gravis's fault.  I have a really screwey setup with like 4 windows
configurations, so it didn't know which copy of the driver to overwrite.
 (EVERYTHING has this problem! :)  But anyways, i'm really happy with my
GUS...  NICE piece of hardware!  and man, those sierra drivers are NICE!
SBOS is sufficient..

               Just my stomp of approval! :)
                               [e-mail]

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Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1993 15:05:32 +0501 (EDT)
From: Gunnar Swanson <[e-mail]>
Subject: Obscene language not acceptable!
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

To all of my fellow GUSers,

    Recently I have expressed some opinions that some of you have very
strongly disagreed with.  That is fine, however, I do not appreciate
obscene, rude, insulting, or hate type mail.  Writing someone an obscene
note is unacceptable behavior.  I would never speak to any of you in that
way, much less write you an obscene note.  No more obscene flames, thank
you.

    Please if you disagree, do it with some dignity and restraint.



            Respectfully


            Gunnar Swanson


[e-mail]



end.

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Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1993 08:52:12 +0200
From: [e-mail]
Subject: ositive Post: Better Patches
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

The 2.06 patch set is not bad, but some of the patches could
be improved or made to sound like GM ( some of them are completely
different ! ).  Its great to be able to make patches and
some people have been making some really good ones - you know
who there are, the problem is that these normally take up
more or less memory and certain programs calcalute which
patches to use so as to fit them in memory.
I can see(hear) that gravis is quite busy right now with
the whole support business, so instead of recreating patches
why don't they just make a new standard patch set with the
ones made by others ( not the patches that are 5 times the size )
just the ones that sound much better eg Gunshot - Accordeon etc
Someone posted a list of good and bad patches about 2-3 digests
ago - I agree with his findings.  I am sure that gravis can com
to an aggrement with Francious (sorry don't no the spelling) Dion
about using his patches.
On FTP.REED.EDU  /EPS/SAMPLES - there are lots of good sounding
intruments that can be made into patches

So what do you think ?

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Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1993 10:53:28 -0600 (MDT)
From: "Keith J. Ball" <[e-mail]>
Subject: People complaining...
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

Hey guys those of you that keep complaining about the GUS don't really know
what your talking about. As well as I can tell the guys at Gravis at least
care. Unlike some other companies that I have dealt with. I gave up on the
GUS with my kid and got him an SB Pro...only because the software took so
long to get issued that had the fixes in it. That was a mistake...as near
as I can tell there is just as many problems with all the rest of the sound
cards out there. At least there is a lot better support out there from the
GUS people.

So can we put and end to the "Bitching" and get back to the real things
that matter... like writing good software etc. that supports the GUS.

BTW the kid has asked for the GUS back out of my machine.

Keith

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Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1993 05:07:34 -0500 (EST)
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Second Reality
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

...is definitely VERY COOL. I had to run it in flat mode with just my GUS
environment variables, but it was worth the hassle (plus I have Mboot). I
recommend watching this. The flight sequence is the best IMHO. Music is great
and sounds great on the GUS. This card is making its place known in the world
and if there are those who want to start up a divergent list to whine about
support, have at it, but I'd rather not read it on this list.

Watch the kudos
at the end and tell me John Smith isn't doing his gods-be best.
(Thanks from me, too, btw, Mr. Smith :))
Of course, you can ignore this if you want.
[e-mail]
John Birchett
Marc - Igormud

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Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1993 19:46:57 -1000 (GMT-10:00)
From: Paul Murgatroyd <[e-mail]>
Subject: Second Reality
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

Well,
    I must say that I am impressed with Second Reality. It actually makes
me quite envious of Future Crew, since I am 20, and only just starting to
learn assembly langauage (MIPS R2000). I noticed that the eldest member of
FC is 21, so I have a lot of catching up to do :-)

I haven't tried it with the GUS yet, since I just put in a PAS16, and
didn't want to attempt to get the GUS and PAS16 living side by side just
yet (Has anyone managed to do it...ie: should I even bother trying??)

Anyway, I'll check out the demo with the GUS in a couple of days. My
flatmate is buying a 486DX-50 tomorrow, and he has no sound board, so I'll
try it there.

Also, has anyone given the Dolby Surround Sound a try??? Another of my
friends has has a Dolby Pro Logic Amplifier, and I can hardly wait to try
it out :-)

NB: Don't think for a second that because I have bought a PAS16 that I am
abandonning the GUS. Quite the opposite. I'll be keeping close watch on
the GUS GUS scene, and I look forward to instaling my GUS once again.


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Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1993 11:51:12 -0700 (PDT)
From: David Hoang <[e-mail]>
Subject: Second Reality
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

Okay, I just heard the 2nd reality and it was hella fresh! Anyone with a
Gravis with 512k or above should get this. I didn't know how long it was
when I ran it, but the 15+ mins. was worth it! In the beginning when a
ship was flying above the screen and other ships followed, I actually
heard 3d sound! Or was it just stereo sound? Anyways, the sound was hella
good! Sterreo sound all the way! Even on my cheap $30 speakers it sounded
great! I wonder how it would sound on a crappy SB? See you all!

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Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1993 07:33:09 -0300 (ADT)
From: Gravis Ultrasound Lover <[e-mail]>
Subject: Second Reality!!!
Message-ID: <Pine.3.02.9310110709.A2696-a100000@clement>

    Get second reality now!!!!

    The GUS support is like anything heard yet.  My roomate has a
386-40 with a SoundBlaster (beep?) and I tried Second Reality on his
computer too.  Bahhh!  You can't compare.
    Future Crew did an excellent job.  I love the intro with the
stereo effects.  It rocked the apartment all morning. :)

                            Marc Y. Paulin
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Date: (null)
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Some good responses from game companies

I did my homework - I sent letters to all companies that
were at the end of mondays digest - most of them
bounced unfortunately - but I am happy to say that
the replies that I have were very positive ! yes
about 3/7 of them will/ or are currently adding
support in NATIVE mode !!! - well done GRAVIS
others are going to use AIL - I would post the reply's
but I am sure someone else will and we don't need
to read them over and over !

James
internet: [e-mail]

------------------------------

Date: (null)
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Subscribe

Subscribe me to the Ultrasounds Daily Digest.

Thanks.

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Date: Sun, 10 Oct 93 13:16:00 PDT
From: n4zfd!@emsr0.emsr.att.com:frodo
Subject: The future of sound
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

I've been watching for awhile now as people keep making noises about games.
Folks, although many of you may have bought your GUS to play games with, DOS
based games are not where the future of sound cards lie.

First off, DOS itself has a limited lifetime. This time next year, there
will be basically four personal computer operating systems, two intended for
desktop use, and two intended for server use.

The server operating systems are Windows NT and UNIX. Sound support on
machines using these operating systems is not critical, as it would mostly
be used by programmers waiting for compiles to complete.

The desktop operating systems will be OS/2, and Windows 4.0, (currently
known as "Chicago"). These operating systems provide a wide range of
services to programs, including the standard multimedia API. In common, both
OS/2 and Chicago support the Windows Multimedia API, and this is the common
platform where future sound cards will be used.

Sound cards have many uses, besides games. For those of you who aren't old
enough to remember, at one point in time GRAPHICS was a luxury that people
got on their home computers so that they could play games. Eventually,
someone figured out a business use for GRAPHICS, and the technology took off
 - now, virtually every computer that's sold has graphic capabilities far
exceeding those of the earlier home computers, and for a hundredth of the
cost.

This is the same way the sound card market is developing. Sound now has a
business use - for presentations, as embedded sound annotations to documents
that are sent via email in workgroups, etc. All of this development is being
done under Windows, where the GUS performs as well or better, than other
cards. (The only lacking point here is the GUS's interpretation of MIDI
velocity).

At the same time, the market for multimedia reference software (ie.,
Encarta, Cinemania, Mammals, etc.) is rapidly developing. Being multimedia,
the Windows Multimedia API is a given, also.

Folks, the only place Soundblaster compatibility matters is in DOS-based
games. Even Sierra releases its games with a Windows version that uses the
Multimedia API - they just need to support patch-caching. As has been
pointed out, noone cares that the Roland cards don't have Soundblaster
compatibility (because they were designed for musicians), that the Microsoft
Sound System doesn't have it (because it was designed for business), and,
eventually, noone will care whether or not the GUS does, either.

Forget sending hundreds of letters to game manufacturers to add native
support to games. What needs doing is for drivers to be written to support
the multimedia operating systems, and for the game manufacturers to "get
with it", and start writing multimedia, before *they* are left in the dust.

p.s. For what its worth, Gravis needs to come out with/contract for:

a) Windows drivers that properly interpret the velocity in a MIDI sequence.

b) Port the Windows drivers to OS/2 MM2, again, with proper velocity
interpretation.

c) Port the Windows drivers to Windows NT, again, with proper velocity
interpretation.

The Windows NT drivers will be portable to Chicago either as-is, or with
minimal changes. The API and driver structure for both are the same.

Jim Blakely, VP
Blakely-Signature Associates

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Date: (null)
From: rylos.jazz.att.com:[e-mail]
Subject: The future of sound

I've been watching for awhile now as people keep making noises about games.
Folks, although many of you may have bought your GUS to play games with, DOS
based games are not where the future of sound cards lie.

First off, DOS itself has a limited lifetime. This time next year, there
will be basically four personal computer operating systems, two intended for
desktop use, and two intended for server use.

The server operating systems are Windows NT and UNIX. Sound support on
machines using these operating systems is not critical, as it would mostly
be used by programmers waiting for compiles to complete.

The desktop operating systems will be OS/2, and Windows 4.0, (currently
known as "Chicago"). These operating systems provide a wide range of
services to programs, including the standard multimedia API. In common, both
OS/2 and Chicago support the Windows Multimedia API, and this is the common
platform where future sound cards will be used.

Sound cards have many uses, besides games. For those of you who aren't old
enough to remember, at one point in time GRAPHICS was a luxury that people
got on their home computers so that they could play games. Eventually,
someone figured out a business use for GRAPHICS, and the technology took off
 - now, virtually every computer that's sold has graphic capabilities far
exceeding those of the earlier home computers, and for a hundredth of the
cost.

This is the same way the sound card market is developing. Sound now has a
business use - for presentations, as embedded sound annotations to documents
that are sent via email in workgroups, etc. All of this development is being
done under Windows, where the GUS performs as well or better, than other
cards. (The only lacking point here is the GUS's interpretation of MIDI
velocity).

At the same time, the market for multimedia reference software (ie.,
Encarta, Cinemania, Mammals, etc.) is rapidly developing. Being multimedia,
the Windows Multimedia API is a given, also.

Folks, the only place Soundblaster compatibility matters is in DOS-based
games. Even Sierra releases its games with a Windows version that uses the
Multimedia API - they just need to support patch-caching. As has been
pointed out, noone cares that the Roland cards don't have Soundblaster
compatibility (because they were designed for musicians), that the Microsoft
Sound System doesn't have it (because it was designed for business), and,
eventually, noone will care whether or not the GUS does, either.

Forget sending hundreds of letters to game manufacturers to add native
support to games. What needs doing is for drivers to be written to support
the multimedia operating systems, and for the game manufacturers to "get
with it", and start writing multimedia, before *they* are left in the dust.

p.s. For what its worth, Gravis needs to come out with/contract for:

a) Windows drivers that properly interpret the velocity in a MIDI sequence.

b) Port the Windows drivers to OS/2 MM/2, again, with proper velocity
interpretation.

c) Port the Windows drivers to Windows NT, again, with proper velocity
interpretation.

The Windows NT drivers will be portable to Chicago either as-is, or with
minimal changes. The API and driver structure for both are the same.

Jim Blakely, VP
Blakely-Signature Associates

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1993 10:05:11 -0500
From: [e-mail] (Ken Goach IBM)
Subject: Weird GUS problem/games question
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

HI all,

Well, it's time for my quarterly plea for help.

I am still having problems with MIDI in Windows. If I play
a MID that uses any of the flute sounds (flute, piccolo,
pan flute, ocarina, etc) Windows crashes. Sometimes it
returns an EMM386 error (exception error #06), other
times it just hangs. It goes to a black screen immediately
after the flute sound begins playing and holds the last
notes played. I don't have this problem with playmidi.
Everything else works great (except I may have gotten
the same crash with the clarinet patch once).

Any clues?

On the subject of games, I was wondering:

1) Is there a list of all the games that currently support
   the GUS, including the Sierra games that now work with
   the added driver?

2) Can someone recommend a football or golf game that works
   well with SBOS?

3) Has Gravis ever thought about starting a games division,
   or hiring a second party (like they did with Forte) to
   code games with *real* GUS support?

Thanks,

Ken
[e-mail]

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Date: (null)
From: "(O) (O) c ?" <[e-mail]>
Subject: WinJammer Questions

    Any of you guys use WinJammer??  For some reason I always get a
'Can't Load Track 1'.
        Actually, it seems Winjammer can't load the first
track it tries to load period .  If i'm using patch 4,19,20, it will then say
'can't load track 4'.  It will load the rest fine, and I can go to the
Ultrasound Patch Manager and manually load the patch that wouldn't load.
It's just a pain because everytime I stop/play, replay the song it wipes that
patch out of memory, and I have to manually load the patch all over again.

        Also, for some reason I can't get WJ to interface with the Patch
change on the Miracle keybourd. I'm using the Ultrasound Midi Box/Driver.
It only plays on Channel 10.

        Any help muchly appreciated. Thanks.






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Date: (null)
From: [e-mail]
Subject: WSD2SND - where can I find it ?

I need a bit a help - I got an EPS disk off ftp.reed.edu
and EPS_Utils - now how do you extract the files.  Must
you write the files to a disk ?  HOW ? If I choose
eXtract then it asks me for the volume - fine then it
wants the directory BLOCK number and it defaults to 3.
Dunno what this means.  Then it asks for the patch names
Isn't there a way to select all the patches/instruments ?
Then where do I get WSD2SND - I have got INSTEDIT but I
can not seem to find WSD2SND ?

Thanks for the help
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Date: (null)
From: (null)

Forwarded message:
> From [e-mail] Tue Oct 12 00:48:17 1993
> From: John Romero <[e-mail]>
> Date: Mon, 11 Oct 93 11:45:20 -0500
>
> There's a very small chance that GUS support may be dropped, but
> we're not worried about it yet.  Sadly, though, our GUS support will
> not take total advantage of the card.  We won't be having any 44khz
> samples, just 11khz.  DOOM is a shareware game, and it needs to be a
> shareware size.  44khz samples will blow-up a project's size
> considerably.  The GUS does have a mixer chip so you can have
> simultaneous sound effects -- but we're doing that in software, so
> the SB and compatibles will have composited sound effects as well.
> ---
> John Romero ([e-mail]) id Software
> Send questions about id software to [e-mail]
> (NeXTmail OK).

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