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Msg Base: #5 - CP/M and C128 Msg No: 491. 9-11-90 11:28.39 (NO KILL) From: Ray Whidden To: All Subject: DESTERMV2.0 NOW HERE Hi All telecommunicators: File section 13 - 128 - Miscellaneous now has the five files for DESTERM v2.0. A great program gets much better for shareware fee of $25.00. Included features: o normal support for up to 9600 bps with RS232 adapter & appropriate modem. o support for up to 38,000 bps with Swiftlink or Hart UART/ACIA cartridge o script language/compiler for automatic logon/etc k.ÉBBS o supports joystick/mouse on port 1 OR 2 o buffer editor o extensive documentation for the terminal program & compiler o terminal emulation for ANSI/VT52/Vt100/VT102/CBM color/graphics o C=128 mode file type changer 1541/71 o self extracting file archive: two 1541 or one 1571/81 o menu operated, custom configuration features o telephone auto dial/directory support o hotkey substitutes for menu options o help mode o keyclick ON/OFF o NTSC/PAL video support o 23/24/25/50/51 or 52 line video support o screen width 40 or 80 columns o cursor adjustable to blink/non-blink/solid or underline o screen mode invert, hex display and chat mode/split screen o buffer autosave o support two disk drive environment o ramdisk support o configurable disk drive identifier o much, much more Definitely one of the bargains in the C=128 computing community. Take a look at this one. Regards, Ray Msg Base: #5 - CP/M and C128 Msg No: 492. 9-15-90 23:51.34 (NO KILL) (RECV'D) From: Ray Whidden To: John Milligan Subject: GENEALOGY ALSO SEE: 493. Hi John, Have called the Kintracers BBS several times since you gave me the number and am now a validated user. I'm not sure what requesting users to send a postal application, rather than applying online gets a sysop. Anyway, I got the Tafel Matching System nodelist and called a Personal Ancestral File User Group BBS in Maryland, where you can register online and download anything that I saw that I wanted. TMS is an interesting application of PC's and networking where you create a Tiny Tafel which describes your family history database (computer or otherwise), provide name/address/phone/home BBS, etc, submit the TT to the home BBS, request a match, then log off. A limited online match is possible, but likely not worth trying as I doubt any other people are researching the names that I am. I'll try that mode another time, once I have access to TMS. Anyway, once you log off, an offline, batch program takes over and runs, to match the names/soundex codes/start year/end year/family names/place names of your TT to all other TT's on the home BBS. A report is created that you can obtain by download, the next day. However, in the meantime, the fun begins: using the National Genealogy Conference/TMS network, your home BBS sends your TT to the next node, where the same match is done again. However, in this case, the report doesn't return to you immediately, it is attached to your TT and sent on to the next node. And so on and so on and so on....until I guess, the author of TMS' own BBS in California gets it, where a match is done and the two are fired back to your home BBS, I'm not sure whether non-stop or node by node(I would imagine the latter). All this at no cost to yourself, or so the TT documentation says. In any case I d/l someone else *.RPT file just to see what it looks like and he ended up with 25KB worth of info showing researchers on other nodes looking for information on people/dates/places he was looking for. And some of the names were rather unique, as well, so perhaps the names on my list would also yield a good hit rate. Anyway, creating a TT sounds like a cumbesome process to do manually but having seen mine, it sounds harder than it actually ends up being. However, a file on Kintracers, called TTGEN10C.LBR, labelled "not for IBM" turns out to be Turbo Pascal compiled/no source to do the job almost automatically. The CPAFUG BBS has a file called GED2TT??.ZIP which is likely for the PC, but takes your PAF database and really automatically creates a TT file. They also have many other PAF oriented files and I find that PAF have move from version 2.0 to 2.1 and 2.2. Actually, I'll put together a disk for you for the next C=128 meeting. Hope you had a good weekend at the cottage. Re'a{ds, Ray Msg Base: #5 - CP/M and C128 Msg No: 493. 9-17-90 15:09.57 (NO KILL) (RECV'D) From: John Milligan To: Ray Whidden Subject: GENEALOGY ALSO SEE: 492, 494. Hi Ray, I am happy to hear that the Kintracers BBS seems to have piqued your interest! You mentioned the next C128 meeting. When and where and what is happening? Also Who is co-ordinating? John Msg Base: #5 - CP/M and C128 Msg No: 494. 9-17-90 20:25.04 (NO KILL) (RECV'D) From: Ray Whidden To: John Milligan Subject: TPUG C=128 MEETING ALSO SEE: 493, 500. Hi John and all C=128 users, I wasn't able to go to the York Public Library for what should have been the inaugural C=128 meeting. However, since only George Skinner was able to make it, there wasn't a meeting. I WILL be there for the October meeting, Oct. 2, at 7:00 PM. If you are going to attend, please let us know here, on-line. I will be able to talk about the latest that I have dug up in the genealogy area, as well as talk about a few, new great files on CRS. At least, at this point, since I cannot download, the description sounds great. Also, someone may wish to talk about their experiences with CS-DOS v1.5. I know it seems like it has been around forever, but it only came out in Jan 1990 and many will have only seen it about May/June so it pretty well the newest, best C=128 utility (is it fair to call it only a utility? Heck, it's an environment!!!) around. Any other ideas, Chris, Gerry, Doug, George and now, over to you John. So far, we are still looking for a coordinator. Regards, Ray Msg Base: #5 - CP/M and C128 Msg No: 495. 9-17-90 21:53.41 (RECV'D) From: Howard Herman To: Ray Whidden Subject: SCANNING IN PAGES ON C=128 ALSO SEE: 485. Ray, Well, at the WOC someone introduced a hand scanner for the 64. There was an intro lecture on it Saturday afternoon, but I couldn't attend as the others I came with had to leave. So, hand scanning capability has apparently been added to our 8-bit machine repertoire. :) I appreciate the Pocket Writer 3 cheatsheet offer. However, I've been using it, and its predecessors (sp?) <gee.... I'm not gonna spell check every post!> for so long most everything in the program is transparant to me. Even, the Control x and y and >. However, others could probably benefit from it, and in fact would welcome having it. Double lined graphic boxes? What a marvelous idea. I never would have thought that possible. I'd certainly welcome learning the coding for this one! The main printer is an Epson, so I am not sure if it would agree with Panasonic's. Here's what the boxes part of its printer file looks like: Boxes on :27,116,1,27,85,1,27,115,1 Boxes off:27,115,0,27,85,0,27,116,0 Codes:196 Codes:197 Codes:194 Codes:193 Codes:180 Codes:195 Codes:218 Codes:191 Codes:192 Codes:217 Codes:179 It has been a while since I originally set this up, and I had forgotten, the specifics. However, I found that in addition to turning the characters on/off, they printed better if the printer was set for half-speed, and unidirection printing. The extra coding turns these additional features on/off, and results in very attractive boxing, etc. This may just be a quirk with my printer, an older 9 pin, so you might give them a tryout, just to see if they really are needed with the Panasonic. If the character codes agree with yours for single line boxing, then your selecion of doubled line should work for the Epson too, and I'd like to have those to use with a new printer file. The PW3 macros I made up do everything from file copying chores, to text formatting, to re-formatting A Æbuffer from Dow/Jones, so that updated stock pricing with current dating can be added to a Pocket Filer 2 data base. They all call up named files, or reformat existing buffers, so unless everything you have would agree with my set up, they would stop running at the first error, or file not found, etc. Macros are really very easy to set up, and pretty well described in the accompanying docs. The "complicated" part was determining what Filer 2 wanted in order to update automatically. The only "trick" I added was constructing "single" macros of 1,000 keystrokes, exceding the 255 keystroke limit. This was done by having one macro end, by calling a second, etc. In fact, it made construction of macros easier, since I could do them in small modules, and if I made a mistake, only that module had to be redone. The "one" macro that reformats the D/J's buffer, does a whole series of finds, block moves of quotes and dates, and then goes on to convert fractions from 1/2 thru 31/32'nds into decimals for Filer2. [continued] Msg Base: #5 - CP/M and C128 Msg No: 496. 9-17-90 21:58.13 (RECV'D) From: Howard Herman To: Ray Whidden Subject: SCANNING PAGES C=128 ALSO SEE: 485, 0497. [ParΦII] The procedure is really simplen Just watch`Ñach`⌐ndividual`¡acro`╖ith`ínM X#, w╘ere # is the letter of the next macro you want it to jump to. Later, load the saved macro file into an edit buffer like BTP128, where you can easilly locate the Xa, for example, and change the X to a decimal value of 172, using BTP's C=, # option. Then resave the new macro. This way, macro A jumps and runs B, which jumps and runs C, etc. If more than 1,000 keystrokes are needed, as was the case here, just end the last macro with Y,M,L,2:filename,<CR>. Filename is the name of the next macro to be loaded (from RAM if "2:"), and change the Y to the decimal value 160. This way, the macro concludes by loading a new macro, and a simple Control L, A will set off another 1,000 unattended keypresses. The one "rule" that must be followed in re-constructing macros with any edit buffer is that the keystroke count of the macro file cannot be changed, nor the individual keystrokes of any individual macro within the macro file. However, you are free to change around any individual character. So, just put "dummy" characters in any macro to be edited. Here's a listing of some often used keystrokes: Keystroke Decimal Value Keystroke Decimal Value ========= ============= ========= ============= left arrow 157 control l 172 right arrow 253 control x 184 up arrow 145 control r 178 down arrow 241 control b 162 shift/clr home 147 <carriage return> 237 shift/space 116 C= (comkey) 160 clr home 243 alt 242 tab 233 shift/alt 254 space 32 F3 134 If for any reason you need one that isn't listed, just enter that keystroke into a "harmless dummy" macro, and examine the saved file to get its value. One more "trick". Construct the macro modules in such a way, so that as things change, any one macro can be easilly changed (or skipped), and the whole will still run, as intended. This way, as my interests in stocks change, I can easilly change just the one macro affected, and its up and running. Since any macro can call and run any other, I can't figure out why this wasn't included as a standard feature. The one thing that has stumped me is getting the second and subsequent macro files to auto run, without needing intervention to start off the first macro. However, one keyboard press to auto run another 1,000 isn't a bad compromise. BTW, that "macro" that reformats the D/J buffer, does about 1,700 keystrokes perfectly and quickly each time. (And, it's fun to watch, at least the first few times.) Certainly, it does more than I'd be willing to do manually, just to update the file, or the maybe several hundred keystrokes if I entered the stuff manually direct into Filer2. Howie P.S. This and the prior post were loaded, and subsequently re-structured and saved to disk via macro! :) Msg Base: #5 - CP/M and C128 Msg No: 497. 9-17-90 23:01.51 (NO KILL) (RECV'D) From: Ray Whidden To: Howard Herman Subject: SCANNING IN PAGES ON C=128 ALSO SEE: 496, 499. Hi Howie, Thanks for the feedback on the C=64 scanner and your other post on the WOC. Gets the old blood warmed up anticipating the upcoming WOC in Toronto in Dec. Re: your PocketWriter 3 macros and other tools I appreciate your modesty and respect for the difficulty of using something geared to a specific configuration, but I would like to see something on PW3 just to keep up the interest, although I no longer see it in the few remaining stores that sell 8-bit stuff in Toronto. However, if you would just include a short file to describe what system configuration you have, and turn the whole thing loose on the BBS community, some of us will be able to figure out what is specific to your system and adapt it to ours. You seem to have done the most fantastic things and I'm sure others would benefit greatly. I'll have a look at that message about your printer codes to see how they match up with my "double line graphic" driver. All I did was change the codes from the ones that came to the graphic set (sending the code to enable Graphics set 1, and as you noted, setting print-one-way instead of bidirectional- the print head positioning is what messes this up) and I said "if I can do single line, double line is just another set of codes away". Unfortunately, since PW3 only supports 11 characters at a time, you need to make another driver but you can install print drivers after loading the program, so that is no problem. Anyway, I will upload shortly, as am trying to create a text version of the graphics chart to help people who might want to use it but wouldn't understand what I'm doing without the help of a source document to check what I was up to. Nice typing to you. Regards, Ray Msg Base: #5 - CP/M and C128 Msg No: 498. 9-22-90 20:08.35 (RECV'D) From: Warren Pollock To: Ray Whidden Subject: PW3 ALSO SEE: 490, 501. I guess I asked about the "cheat sheet" because you can display most of the commands with the "help" screen. Also if you are using a mouse and the drop down menus most of the common commands can be executed. Word Perfect 4.2 (at least) is a nightmare compared to Pocket Writer, so many "esoteric" key commands. My printer is an Epson FX-86e, I have never had time to make a "great" printer driver for it, but I did get the "microspace" to work and it makes the output much more "professional". Have you tried to print a multi-column document with the microspace active, I can't get it to work, the second column is all over the place, if I take the microspace commands out of the printer driver it works. Thanks for "sharing". Msg Base: #5 - CP/M and C128 Msg No: 499. 9-22-90 20:31.05 (RECV'D) From: Warren Pollock To: Ray Whidden Subject: SCANNING IN PAGES ON C=128 ALSO SEE: 497, 502. Hi again Ray, just finished reading the messages between you and Howard Herman, quite fascinating. I hope Howard uploads or shares his macros, not that I will be doing what he is, but I would like to figure out how it works. About the "double" line box, have you, or are you going to change the "french.chrs" file so that the "double" boxes actually appear on the screen? Msg Base: #5 - CP/M and C128 Msg No: 500. 9-23-90 21:28.47 (NO KILL) (RECV'D) From: John Milligan To: Ray Whidden Subject: TPUG C=128 MEETING ALSO SEE: 494, 503. Ray, I certainly expect to be at the York Public Library at 7:00 on Oct 2 for the TPUG 128 meeting. Any others? John Msg Base: #5 - CP/M and C128 Msg No: 501. 9-26-90 20:44.09 (NO KILL) (RECV'D) From: Ray Whidden To: Warren Pollock Subject: PW3 MICROSPACING ALSO SEE: 498, 507. Hi Warren, I guess I just have a habitual disposition to having something written down and using the book was getting to be a pain. Also, I think my sheet is more comprehensive than the screens, PLUS has used the column feature to repeat the same info: keystroke - description, description - keystroke. Each are sorted. Much handier. Micro spacing features are great and multiple columns are great and boxes (to mention another feature) are great, but each is complicated enough by itself, that even on WordPerfect 5.0, you couldn't do boxes and columns together. Maybe version 10.0!!! So it's no wonder the right hand column is "all over the place". To bad, it would have been a real coup if it had worked. By the way, PW3 CANNOT do columns and boxes either. Darn!!! Regards, Ray By the way, my cheat sheet LOOKS like PW3 does do boxes and columns but I cheated: I made the document in columns by tabbing, then manually inserting the box characters. Maybe WP5.0 would have done it that way , too. RW Msg Base: #5 - CP/M and C128 Msg No: 502. 9-26-90 20:50.59 (NO KILL) (RECV'D) From: Ray Whidden To: Warren Pollock Subject: PW3 ONSCREEN DOUBLE-LINE BOXES ALSO SEE: 499. Hi Warren, again: Hadn't thought of changing the French character set. Sounds like a neat, rainy day project. I spent so much@Pime`¡qssaging`┤he`úheat`│heetM ┤hat`I didn't have any inspiration left over for graphics ideas. Once I upload the other files, I give it a try. Regards, Ray Msg Base: #5 - CP/M and C128 Msg No: 503. 9-26-90 20:53.32 (NO KILL) (RECV'D) From: Ray Whidden To: John Milligan Subject: TPUG C=128 MEETING ALSO SEE: 500. Hi John, Re: Oct 2, 1990 7:00 PM at York library (Eglinton & Dufferin area) Thanks for the response, John. I have two replies on PunterNet so looks good. How about the silent majority of C=128 users.... Gerry, Doug, Chris??? Regards, Ray Msg Base: #5 - CP/M and C128 Msg No: 504. 9-26-90 23:16.54 From: Ralph Schwarz To: All Subject: POCKET WRITER 3 ALSO SEE: 506. Msg # : 155 of 155 - Ref 10/2187 From : RALPH SCHWARZ To : ALL Posted : 1557h on 26-Sep-90 * CONF 128 Subject: Pocket Writer 3 -- Bug? Hello! Perhaps the best word processor on the market today for the Commodore 128 is Pocket Writer 3. I really enjoy using this versatile and very powerful word processor. Undoubtedly, other users will agree. However, I think I have stumbled across a bug. I am currently using V3.00 (as stated on the disk label). Could anyone tell me if they have/know of a version that exceeds this one? I would like to get the latest issue... Anyway, here is the bug; please tell me if you have this problem as well: I use my C-128 with a 1571 (boot disk), a 1581 (data disk), a 1750 REU (Data disk and storage of necessary program files), a 1351 mouse. When I load PW3, I have the REU enabled, and the 1581 disk drive off. Normally, after the program loads and copies the OVERLAY files to the REU, I turn off the 1571 and turn on the 1581. This way, my system uses the 1581 as the main disk, and the REU as the secondary one. Now, copy the printer file that you normally use (either by pre-configured methods or manual loading) to the REU (from the boot disk). From here, press C= D or C= 2 (REU) to obtain the directory mode screen. Move up to the printer file name under the REU drive (or your secondary drive) and press C= I plus the RUN/STOP key to get the file in the command line for installation of the printer file. You will see something like: Install Printer File: 2:FILENAME.pf The 2 designates the drive that the file shall be loaded from. Now if I press return, the expected result is that PW3 will load the aforementioned printer file into memory from the REU. However, the program goes to the physical drive instead of the REU! Obviously this is not normal, hence there is a problem. On a related note, if I press C= I right after loading the program, and press help, I get a screen full of garbage as my help screen. When I press Shift Help, I exit and when I press help again, it comes up with the actual help file that it should be showing. If I press the C=key or RETURN, I get a locked up computer! This is also while using the REU as drive 2. Has anyone experienced this? If you can, please experiment with this and get back to me. Also, PLEASE let me know what version you have! Msg Base: #5 - CP/M and C128 Msg No: 505. 9-26-90 23:19.33 From: Ralph Schwarz To: All Subject: PW3 CONTINUED... The last message was one that I put up on PCPN Conference 128 (the C-128). I just discovered this flaw in the software today, and thought I would see if others have the same trouble. I got the version in the mail from Digital Solutions around February 1990. I must apologize for the mess, I tried the buffer entry method... TTYL, Msg Base: #5 - CP/M and C128 Msg No: 506. 9-29-90 12:00.46 (NO KILL) (RECV'D) From: Ray Whidden To: Ralph Schwarz Subject: POCKET WRITER 3, NOT A BUG ALSO SEE: 504. Hi Ralph, I'll certainly try out what you describe as a bug, but my first impression is that this is not a bug. PW3 will load from any disk you wish but it expects to find the files to load to the REU on disk 8 (a rather peculiar default configuration, but that's the way it is) so I BOOT "PW*",U9 or RUN"pw*",U9 and have the other files on the 1581 I have set to device 8. Also, there is a configuration file that you can alter to specify what printer driver you wish to load, without having to manually do C=I and use the directory listing as you describe. I also have reservations about turning off devices after loading a program (some load the drive RAM with custom code for fast transfers/copy protection) and since PW3 supports multiple drives (8=0, 9=1, REU=2, 10=3, etc., yeah, I thought it was a funny scheme, myself, but then I didn't collaborate on writing the program), so you can load from where-ever, with above mentioned limitation, and write to where-ever. My configuration is just somewhat more complicated than yours: C=128, 1750 REU, 1351 mouse 1-1541 as disk 8, turned on at appropriate times, mostly kids playing games, 1-1571 as disk 9, on when the power bar turns on, 2-1581 as disk 8 and 10, used to boot CP/M, GEOS and CS-DOS and on usually when I use the computer (exception: when I run 1541 specific disk routines) I haven't had any difficulties using the directories or using the RUN/STOP technique originate by PaperClip and borrowed by PW, and on the whole am pleased with the program. Also, I have V3.0 but apparently there is a later version you get if you send in the warranty card and the $13.50. There may still be a reference from Howie Herman in the message base here. I'll get back to you when I have had a chance to check this out. Regards, Ray Msg Base: #5 - CP/M and C128 Msg No: 507. 9-29-90 20:29.37 (RECV'D) From: Warren Pollock To: Ray Whidden Subject: PW3 ALSO SEE: 501, 508. Got your reply, Ray. Looking forward to "seeing" your hard work. Never tried boxes and columns, won't work eh? Guess I could always put it all into GeoPublish and get boxes and proportionally spaced columns. It is just so slow to print in "quality" mode. I would like to set up PW3 so I could have single and double boxes in the same document. Maybe a macro that would use the redefinition characters, (the numbers that are underlined <control> <shift> <#>, i think). Problem is I don't think there are enough redefinable characters for all the box shapes. Msg Base: #5 - CP/M and C128 Msg No: 508. 10-01-90 14:33.40 (NO KILL) (RECV'D) From: Ray Whidden To: Warren Pollock Subject: PW3 JUST ENOUGH ALSO SEE: 507. Hi Warren, Re: single & double line boxes in the same doc. There are 11 character definitions required to account for all the characters to do a box. You'll notice you can't even do French characters and boxes together because they used the redefine character feature to impliment the box feature so it's not possible to go that route to have both sets. If you are successfully able to use macros to make this happen, please feael free to upload the macro here. Regards, Ray Msg Base: #5 - CP/M and C128 Msg No: 509. 10-02-90 15:57.06 (NO KILL) (RECV'D) From: Ray Whidden To: Chris Schmidt Subject: C=128 MEETING, C=128 DISKS ALSO SEE: 510, 513. Hi Chris, Hoped to see you at the C=128 meeting but I guess you missed my messages to ALL. How about putting it on your calendar for Nov. 6? I know you were dealing with a C=128 user group in California; did you ever get any disks of stuff that you thought could go in the TPUG library. I believe the offer of a free disk for each usable program sent to TPUG still stands. Leave me a message to let me know what you've been up to. Regards, Ray Msg Base: #5 - CP/M and C128 Msg No: 510. 10-04-90 16:53.06 (NO KILL) (RECV'D) From: Chris Schmidt To: Ray Whidden Subject: C=128 MEETING, C=128 DISKS ALSO SEE: 509, 511. OOps... I guess that being really busy at school has it's disadvantahes... Ohwell, what happened at the meeting anyhow? I haven't been on to see any messages lately so I will definitely mark Nov 6 on my calander so I don't miss it too. No, I haven't gotten anything from that group in California, and the guy I sent it to seems to have dissapeared from the 128 conference. Hmmm.... Well, I have been trying to learn C but haven't had very much time to play with it. I find that it is fairly close to Turing (aka: more forgiving version of Pascal!) and maybe that (as it seemed at the time) useless language we were learning in school will come in handy. I have put an order on The C Primer and hope that they can locate a copy and that it hasn't gone out of print. I can never get it from the library when I have time for it and when the reserve finally comes through, I get a big assignment or something... Other than that it has been a fairly quiet summer. Are you going to go to the CompuFest Fall show? I am thinking of going down as I'm running low on 3 1/2" disks. I have brougt in my 1902a for repair and expect it back sometime next week so that will set me back probably about $100. Then I can get the other 128 up and running and my brothers off of my computer. Not much else on this end , how about over there? Msg Base: #5 - CP/M and C128 Msg No: 511. 10-08-90 16:16.58 (NO KILL) (RECV'D) From: Ray Whidden To: Chris Schmidt Subject: C=128 MEETING, C=128 DISKS ALSO SEE: 510, 514. Hi Chris, Re: C=128 meeting, we had a modest turnout, six or so. We finally got a machine as Ian MacIntosh of TPUG newletter fame was able to get the C=128 and arrived a bit late. However, used it to demo CS-DOS to the limited extent you can do that in 40 columns (not 80 col cable). Other than that, we ran somewhat overtime (about 10 pm) but nobody came around to kick us out until we were ready to leave. Some of the things we covered: o CS-DOS v 1.5 o latest on CMD hard drives/RAMlink o availability of SuperCalc2 v1.00 for CP/M via FOG library o availability of scanners for C=64 at Valley Forge WOC o some are ordering Swiftlink UART cartridge o availability of DESTermv2.00 (here and elsewhere) support Swiftlink o converting GeoPublish to "print to disk" and print PostScript on PC o my experiences with PAF/TMS/TT and other genealogy pursuits o many topics to numerous to mention. As you can see, we had a pretty good meeting. Will look for you at Nov. meeting. C can be a daunting language to learn on your own. I took the evening course last year at Centennial College (Markham & 401 area) and after trying to learn it from books, am glad I did. It also helped that Greg McConnell joined me as it helps to have someone to talk about problems with. We did OK working with Aztec C on the CP/M side but using QuickC on the PC's at the college. We both have Power C and Greg had used it on a previous C course he took. The book you are looking for should be available at the Worlds Biggest Bookstore if you're ever downtown. Regards, Ray Msg Base: #5 - CP/M and C128 Msg No: 512. 10-08-90 22:55.53 (RECV'D) From: Al Weinstein To: Ray Whidden Subject: CRS DEMISE ALSO SEE: ░l480. Of course, the wonderful news is that the reported demise of CRS is, to misquote Mark twain, greatly exaggerated. And it's a good thing, too: when CRS went down, I was so disheartened that I sort of lost some of my interest in BBS'ing generally. Obviously, CRS is not the only Board which I visit, but with its sudden disappearance from the scene, I simply didn't have the same enthusiasm. But now that things are back up (there's even an improvement in one area: I suffer from far less line noise than what I had to put up with after the big move to Mississauga (and, no doubt, others have made the same discovery). So here's a cheery "THUMBS UP" to CRS, and to you and your intended role in its growth. Msg Base: #5 - CP/M and C128 Msg No: 513. 10-08-90 23:49.00 (RECV'D) From: Al Weinstein To: Ray Whidden Subject: C=128 MEETING ALSO SEE: 509. As a tag-along to your message to Chris (#509), I7d like to point out that those who attended the meeting were treated to much lively discussion on various technical and club-related developments. Muchas gracias to you, John, Ian, and all the other attendees for a great evening. It would have been even nicer to have had a larger audience to throw the questions and answers around, so let's hope that all the faithful and deserving will turn up at the November get-together. Messages available are #1 to 542. You last read #513. Check Kill Nonstop Enter Reply Scan Thread Quit Msg#: 514 Msg Base: #5 - CP/M and C128 Msg No: 514. 10-10-90 19:04.29 (NO KILL) (RECV'D) From: Chris Schmidt To: Ray Whidden Subject: C ALSO SEE: 511. I have the ISBN and will give them a call to see if they either have it or can order it. But right now I am going to be tight for $$$ as I have my 1902a in the shop for repairs. I brought it in two weeks ago and it isn't ready yet. I am not too happy to say the least... Anyway, is anyone going to go to the CompuFest this weekend? I am hoping to go on Sunday. Nothing else new here... some assignments, losing money on the TSE... TTYL for now... Msg Base: #5 - CP/M and C128 Msg No: 516. 10-29-90 24:12.46 (NO KILL) (RECV'D) From: Ray Whidden To: Ian Hore Subject: PW3CHTDV.SFX ALSO SEE: 515, 517. Hi Ian, What sort of help are you looking for re: PW3? I gather you had a look at the self extracting archive mentioned. I found the manual quite helpful but got tired of looking up the various key combos to do various things. Any other help you need, just leave a message with some details. Regards, Ray Msg Base: #5 - CP/M and C128 Msg No: 518. 11-18-90 15:27.05 (NO KILL) (RECV'D) From: Ray Whidden To: Ian Hore Subject: PW3CHTDV.SFX ALSO SEE: 517, 519, 520. Hi Ian, Where are you located? It would be nice if you could make it to the C=128 meeting utbut even some people in Toronto don't go because of the location: west end and some east enders find it to far. Re: PW3CHTDV.SFX It is a couple of text files that list the PocketWriter 3 C=/CTRL/etc + key commands and what they do, with a second column showing the same information sorted by description, then key combo so that you can say, "what does C=s do" or "what key do I have to press to get a file load of a GEOS file". Also a couple of printer drivers for PW3 and Panasonic/Raven KX-P1124/ s24-pin printer to use single- and double-line box characters so you can easily draw boxes with PW3 and also print them on your printer.│s RΩ±▐ ½└Æ┌ü)vAG┐" The default driver uses the "-", "+" and "|" characters so the boxes look pretty amatuerish. Hope this helps. Regards, Ray Had some garbage in there but you can still read the message. Good luck. RW Msg Base: #5 - CP/M and C128 Msg No: 520. 11-20-90 15:05.42 (RECV'D) From: Ralph Schwarz To: Ray Whidden Subject: PW3CHTDV.SFX ALSO SEE: 518, 521. HI Ray! I can't seem to get the file to work out properly... When I unARC it, and try to use my Pocket Writer 3 (which I FINALLY got back from D.S. yesterday -- the newest master; over 1.5 months!) I can only get a lot of garbage and the columns are all over the place... What gives here? I thought it would be an easy-to-read cheat sheet for quick reference... I don't know why this does this... Could you offer some assistance? Thanks... Ralph M. Schwarz Msg Base: #5 - CP/M and C128 Msg No: 521. 11-28-90 9:55.30 (NO KILL) (RECV'D) From: Ray Whidden To: Ralph Schwarz Subject: PW3CHTDV.SFX ALSO SEE: 520. Hi Ralph, Ooops, will have to download it myself to see what the problem is. Will get back to you. Regards, Ray Msg Base: #5 - CP/M and C128 Msg No: 523. 12-09-90 17:05.36 (NO KILL) (RECV'D) From: Ray Whidden To: Richard Harris Subject: IBM TO C64 ALSO SEE: 522. Hi Richard, I hate to a party pooper, but what will you save the program on once you get it to the C=64. My over simplistic suggestion is a disk drive is indispensible now-a- days. Regards, Ray Msg Base: #5 - CP/M and C128 Msg No: 524. 12-13-90 18:44.59 From: Dug Rodger To: All ......... Subject: HELLO! Good day All ! I'm New in this base, I just got a 128(!) and I know very little about it except the C64 side O things.. This is an introduction of who I am and what I might have to share... Currently I'm the new librarian for the 64 in TPUG.. I just put together 4 disk, the first ones to be released in almost two years! I put a rather wild intro/menu on them to boot, 16 sprites, music, scrolls etc.. I run a GT1 racecar out at Mosport, V8 Monza '80, 310ci, 450/500hp... I do the sound mix for a few local bands, specialize in stereo effects mix and effcts in general from yer basic smoke to yer not so basic Lazers! I'm a ROOFER by trade, with a flair for finding crazy leaks! Can do all forms of roofing from shingles to copper. Currently out of work, nudge-nudge, wink-wink, say no more... (need a pro or just want a hand....?...!) I also do custom engine swaps, big blocks into just about anything... Want a High Perf tune up! (GM V8s only!) I just finished hot rod'n my 1764 REU, I added 1 meg for a total of 1.25megs! I'm a big fan of SuperSnapShot, a freind of mine,Layton Perrin, wrote the disk coppiers on V5.2, and we are writing a Turbo Ram stash compatable with the expanded REUs. Put a SnapShot image(s) high up out of the way of other utilities that use the REU and expanded REUs... I'm way back in this MSG base at the moment (#100) so it will be a little while before I catch up...... ]>ug.. Msg Base: #5 - CP/M and C128 Msg No: 525. 12-19-90 17:04.59 (NO KILL) From: Ralph Schwarz To: All Subject: GEOS CONVERSIONS Hi! Does anyone know if there is a converter program for GEOS that will take a BASIC 8 picture (those 80-column C-128 pix) and change it to a B/W geoPaint format? Basically, it would be a Mac-to-geoPaint or GIF-to-geoPaint type program. Also, does anyone know of a utility that will handle the Mac's StuffIt (.SIT) compression utility? This would be along the same lines as a 64/128 program that takes IBM ARC files and allows one to view/unARC them. Is .PIT similar to .SIT? The former I have seen in CP/M land, and I would like to know if they are at all similar... Thank you! :) Msg Base: #5 - CP/M and C128 Msg No: 526. 12-26-90 18:08.22 (NO KILL) From: Eugene Gibas To: All Subject: C1571 C1571 Drive for sale. Asking $200 but make offers if interested. Phone 453-6982 (Brampton) or leave a message here. Msg Base: #5 - CP/M and C128 Msg No: 527. 1-01-91 13:01.32 (NO KILL) From: Sandro Bennis To: All Subject: DEVICE.COM ALSO SEE: 528. Hello everyone out there, I'm am a fairly new c128 user (about three months). I have been trying to get the most out of my CP/M + 3.00 but I have hit a rough spot. As most of you know the original CP/M disk that came with your 128 did not support the use of a modem. I know if I send away for the other two disks that commodore is offering, my problem would be solved. But I'm wondering all that I need is the new Device.com, is it legal to upload into the dir here? Sandro Bennis Msg Base: #5 - CP/M and C128 Msg No: 528. 1-02-91 22:35.18 (RECV'D) From: Doug Mair To: Sandro Bennis Subject: DEVICE.COM ALSO SEE: 527, 531. I'm sure Ray Whidden the resident CP/M expert on this BBS will provide you with a more comprehensive reply than I can, however you may wish to check out the May '87 version of cpm.sys in the directory. While it specifically has capabilities for the 1581 drive it may also include the modem capabilities you are seeking. You will have to download in CBM format and then use a prgm to convert to cp/m format (also available for d/l as RDCOM). *DOUG* Msg Base: #5 - CP/M and C128 Msg No: 529. 1-02-91 22:52.06 (RECV'D) From: Doug Mair To: Sandro Bennis Subject: RDCOM In my previous message the above should be replaced with XLINK which is in the c128 directory. *DOUG* Msg Base: #5 - CP/M and C128 Msg No: 530. 1-10-91 15:55.13 (NO KILL) (RECV'D) From: Chris Schmidt To: Richard Harris Subject: IBM TO C64 √ ALSO SEE: 522. How are you getting them transfered now? Msg Base: #5 - CP/M and C128 Msg No: 531. 1-20-91 9:42.25 (NO KILL) (RECV'D) From: Ray Whidden To: Doug Mair Subject: DEVICE.COM ALSO SEE: 528, 532. Hi Doug & Sandro, Re: support for the modem port the version of the BIOS here DOES have the RS-232 support. That was added shortly after CP/M 3.0 was introduced on the C=128 and has been there ever since. I now have a SwiftLink cartridge (from Dr. Evil Labs, now being distributed by CMD- the hard disk drive/JiffyDOS people) and it allows RS-232 operation to 2400 in CP/M, 9600+ in native mode with DesTerm128. If you have any trouble getting things going, leave me a message. You'll need more than just the BIOS as the new format program is needed if you are formatting 3.5" disks. Regards, Ray Msg Base: #5 - CP/M and C128 Msg No: 532. 1-26-91 21:47.45 (NO KILL) (RECV'D) From: Sandro Bennis To: Ray Whidden Subject: BIOS ALSO SEE: 531, 533, 538. Thanks Ray, I feel rather dumb asking this but what is BIOS? Sandro Bennis. Msg Base: #5 - CP/M and C128 Msg No: 533. 2-09-91 13:06.14 (NO KILL) (RECV'D) From: Chris Schmidt To: Sandro Bennis Subject: BIOS ALSO SEE: 532. Sandro, BIOS stands for Basic Input Output System. It is the part of any operation system that makes information interchange possible. it scans the keyboard and handles any output to the VID chip and disk drive(s). Hope this helps... Msg Base: #5 - CP/M and C128 Msg No: 534. 2-10-91 24:31.25 (NO KILL) From: Brian Repic To: Wayne Schmidt Subject: MAC *.SIT FILES ALSO SEE: 535. I've uploaded a file called UNSITCPM.LBR that is supposed to decompress the Mac's *.SIT stuffit files.....I've uncompressed the *.LBR format but now the problem is that I have nothing to uncrunch the files - they are in the *.CZM format....what do I do? Msg Base: #5 - CP/M and C128 Msg No: 535. 2-12-91 23:56.12 (RECV'D) From: John Milligan To: Brian Repic Subject: UNCRUNCHING ALSO SEE: 534. Brian, To uncrunch .CZM type files (or any .?Z? files, for that matter) you need UNCRUNCH (usually abbrev. to UNCR) or QL (which stands for Quick Look) There are other utilities, no doubt, but these two will do it nicely. QL will do quite a few other things too, by the way, it is an excellent utility. John Msg Base: #5 - CP/M and C128 Msg No: 536. 2-16-91 17:17.56 From: Howard Herman To: Warren Pollock Subject: PW3 ALSO SEE: 489, 539. Ray, Seems like our tastes run in parallel: SwiftLink, Dialogue128, and 2 Mb RamLinks. I have the first two, and CMD promised to deliver the third in three weeks. The 256k QBB will be going into an early retirement... Howie Msg Base: #5 - CP/M and C128 Msg No: 537. 2-21-91 23:34.13 (NO KILL) From: Brian Repic To: All Subject: C128 PACKAGE 4 SALE commodore 128 package for sale...package includes: - commodore 128 computer (doubles as C64 and CP/M machine) - 1902A color RGB/composite monitor - two 1571 disk drives - seikosha sp1000vc 9-pin commodore compatible printer (+extra ribbon) - 1670 modem (1200 baud) - two EPYX 500XJ joysticks - 1351 mouse and 1350 mouse - lots of magazines - all the manuals plus the Commodore128 Programmers Reference Guide - GEOS 128 *** plus Jiffy Dos installed on the computer and BOTH disk drives *** *** 64K VDC has been installed *** price is $850 or best offer....leave mail here if interested... Msg Base: #5 - CP/M and C128 Msg No: 538. 2-28-91 11:28.50 (NO KILL) (RECV'D) From: Ray Whidden To: Sandro Bennis Subject: BIOS ALSO SEE: 532. Hi Sandro, The only time a question is a dumb question is when you ask it for the second time. BIOS is Basic Input/Output System, which the core/kernel of most operating systems that allows a program written for CP/M, MS-DOS, etc. to communicate with the keyboard, screen, modem, disks, etc. of a computer. In CP/M that was the only part Commodore had to write, to implement CP/M3.0 on the C=128; the rest was written by DRI and merely copied to C=128 format disks. Makes it relatively easy to implement and operating system on new hardware. What computer are you using? Regards, Ray Msg Base: #5 - CP/M and C128 Msg No: 539. 2-28-91 11:33.33 (NO KILL) (RECV'D) From: Ray Whidden To: Howard Herman Subject: PW3 ALSO SEE: 536, 540. Hi Howie, I found a message addressed to Warren Pollock but starts off with "Hi Ray" going on to mention Dialogue128, PocketWriter3 and CMD RAMLink at 2MB so will take a chance and assume it was I you were writing to. (Also SwiftLink232, which I bought from CMD at the WOC/90 in Toronto) I am still waiting for my RamLink but John Milligan and Gerry Moss have received gamma test units they are supposed to provide feedback on. So the elusive mega REU is only weeks away, along with a much anticipate gateWay for GEOS. I'm hoping the CP/M support will be much the same as the CMD hard drive support. Would be nice to have 2MB native space in CP/M but so long as they support the 1581 space. Regards, Ray PS What other networks do you frequent? I am on CRS and they carry Relaynet/RIME, Intelec, NorthAmeriNet, HyperLink, EchoNet, Interlink and Usenet. I follow the C64/128, Genealogy conferences but if I could catch you in another, let me know. RW Msg Base: #5 - CP/M and C128 [ÉÉMsg No: 540. 3-15-91 22:02.17 (RECV'D) From: Howard Herman To: Ray Whidden Subject: PW3 ALSO SEE: 539, 541. Ray, Yup! That post was for you. :) I was promised RamLink by mid March (when I spoke with CMD last month), so it should be getting here VERY soon. From what I know of RL, (at least the RL's Ram) there is no CP/M support, and none planned. [That can change if we all SHOUT loud enough.] The REU, however, is still available for CP/M, with the plus that it will retain its contents, since it is also powered by the same source as the RL. A few clarifications: the RL runs off its own power supply, which you are supposed to connect BEFORE your power strip, so that when you turn things off, power will continue for the RL. The battery option (which I got) protects that source. It is ONLY for limited emergencies, such as short outages (24 to 36 hours), and normally not used. RamDrive on the other hand has a self-contained battery power source, similar to QBB. But, RD is limited to its 2 MgBytes. (Isn't technology great! In '86 I couldn't have said `limited to... 2 Mgs'.) It looks like an extra power line conditioner/surge protector might be a good idea. No prob, since I see them going for $5-10, today, compared to almost $100 five years ago. The prob, as I see it with the present CP/M set-up is that if you NEED the REU for things like CS/DOS applications, Basic8, etc., the CP/M stuff gets wiped out. Being able to partition part of the RL for CP/M use is really needed. I'm waiting to get mine to see what is what. Then, I'm hoping I can interest some of the CP/M gurus on GEnie to re-write a BIOS. [If Niklos G. was still running his 128, he could probably do it while multi-tasking stuff on his other machines.] These days I'm mostly on CompuServe, ID: 72560,3467. CIS interconnects with INTERNET, so any e-mail addressed to `72560.3467@compuserve.com' will get to me (note the dot, not a comma in the Internet address). Also, on GEnie, ID: H.HERMAN1. And, spend less time than in the past, when I was actively sysoping, on Cleveland's FreeNet. ID there is AA349. FreeNet also connects thru Internet, so that address is `aa349@cleveland.freenet.edu.' These days I am mostly there to read Usenet. Unlike an earlier Usenet connection I had, I can't post, since this hasn't been implemented. There are a few other places, but CIS (CompuServe), and GEnie are where I am most. Howie Msg Base: #5 - CP/M and C128 Msg No: 541. 3-16-91 22:15.16 (NO KILL) From: John Milligan To: Howard Herman Subject: RAMLINK ALSO SEE: 540. Howie, Good to hear from you again. I have had a RAMLink (gamma version) for a few weeks now, so I have a couple of comments. The version I have had, did NOT support CP/M mode, but the release version SHOULD, at least, have the ability to partition a section of the RAMLink memory as a 1581 (or 1571) disk - which CAN be separate from the memory in your 1750 REU memory - so you could have two separate areas totalling 510+790 = about 1300k - which can both be protected by battery backup etc. The amount of memory on-board in RL comes into play here - if you have, say, only 1 meg, and yoy allocate that as CP/M - then you do not have much else to play with elsewhere (though, of course, the REU is still available), but if you have more memory, you could have a 1581 RAM section permanently available for CP/M ...AND... a 1581 for GEOS ...AND... more Gerry Moss has already bought SIMM's to bring his up to 4mb, though, when I last talked to him, he had not installed it. Our 'gamma' units had a few bugs (apparently, now fixed) CMD have already tried to get Miklos G. to re-write the CP/M BIOS to support the HD (and subsequently the RL) but apparently Miklos is either unable, unavailable or disinclined to come up with anything. At any rate, from what I hear, you should have RAMLink RSN (real soon now) ........ have fun John Msg Base: #5 - CP/M and C128 Msg No: 542. 3-27-91 16:40.18 (RECV'D) From: Dug Rodger To: John Milligan Subject: 128 MEETING.. Hey John, see my message in the Get Together Base?