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- From: spw2562%ritcv.UUCP@seismo.CSS.GOV
- Newsgroups: net.general
- Subject: internet mailing summary
- Date: 25 Nov 85 18:43:12 GMT
-
- Here's my promised posting of internetwork mailing.. There was a
- HUGE amount of mail in response to the original posting.. ppl are
- really interested in this... It took me 3 days to sort out all
- the mail... 8-)
- ___________________________________________________________________________
- Here is a summary of the current information at NETSERV about some
- of the networks that are connected to the ARPA Internet (CSNET X25Net,
- Arpanet, Mailnet, etc.) and to CSNET PhoneNet.
-
- Please note that the use of the ARPA Internet is restricted to authorized
- individuals and is regulated by the Defense Communications Agency.
- ==========================================================================
-
- Internet ==> Internet user@host.ARPA
-
- Internet ==> PhoneNet user%host@csnet-relay.ARPA
- PhoneNet ==> Internet user@host
- Note: CSNET-RELAY rewrites the address and
- appends ".ARPA" to the host name.
-
- Internet ==> BITNET user%host.BITNET@wiscvm.ARPA
- BITNET ==> Internet BSMTP with "user@host.ARPA"
- NOTE: SEE GATEWAY BSMTP FOR DETAILS OF BSMTP.
-
- Internet ==> DEC ENET user%host.DEC@decwrl.ARPA
- DEC ENET ==> Internet RHEA::DECWRL::"user@host.ARPA"
-
- Internet ==> JANET user%host.JANET@ucl-cs.ARPA
- JANET ==> Internet user%host.ARPA@ucl-cs
-
- Internet ==> MAILNET user%host.MAILNET@mit-multics.ARPA
- MAILNET ==> Internet user%host.ARPA@mit-multics
-
- Internet ==> UUCP user%host.UUCP@seismo.ARPA or
- user%host.UUCP@harvard.ARPA
- Note: The seismo and harvard hosts use the
- "pathalias" software to find the correct UUCP
- routing address.
- UUCP ==> Internet hosta!...!hostz!seismo!user@host.ARPA or
- hosta!...!hostz!harvard!user@host.ARPA
- Note: "hosta" is the sender's nearest neighbor.
- The sender must specify a UUCP routing path to
- "hostz", a host with a direct connection to some
- UUCP->Internet gateway, such as "seismo" or
- "harvard".
-
- Internet ==> XEROX user.registry@XEROX.ARPA
- Note: Do NOT use "%" between "user" and "registry".
- Some Xerox registries are "pa" and "wbst".
- XEROX ==> Internet user@host.ARPA
-
- PhoneNet ==> PhoneNet user@host
- Note: CSNET-RELAY rewrites the address and
- appends ".CSNET" to the host name.
-
- PhoneNet ==> Internet user@host
- Note: CSNET-RELAY rewrites the address and
- appends ".ARPA" to the host name.
- Internet ==> PhoneNet user%host@csnet-relay.ARPA
-
- PhoneNet ==> BITNET user%host.BITNET@csnet-relay
- Note: Some PhoneNet hosts have software that
- allows "user@host.BITNET". Ask your CSNET liaison.
- BITNET ==> PhoneNet BSMTP with "user%host@csnet-relay.ARPA"
- Note: See Info Message sites-8 for details of BSMTP.
-
- PhoneNet ==> DEC ENET user%host.DEC@decwrl
- DEC ENET ==> PhoneNet RHEA::DECWRL::"user%host@csnet-relay.ARPA"
-
- Phonenet ==> JANET user%host.JANET@ucl-cs
- JANET ==> Phonenet user%host%csnet-relay.ARPA@ucl-cs
-
- PhoneNet ==> MAILNET user%host.MAILNET@csnet-relay
- Note: Some PhoneNet hosts have software that
- allows "user@host.MAILNET". Ask your CSNET liaison.
- MAILNET ==> PhoneNet user%host%csnet-relay.ARPA@mit-multics
-
- PhoneNet ==> UUCP user%host.UUCP@seismo or
- user%host.UUCP@harvard
- Note: The seismo and harvard hosts use the
- "pathalias" software to find the correct UUCP
- routing address.
- UUCP ==> PhoneNet hosta!...!hostz!seismo!user%host@csnet-relay.ARPA or
- hosta!...!hostz!harvard!user%host@csnet-relay.ARPA
- Note: "hosta" is the sender's nearest neighbor.
- The sender must specify a UUCP routing path to
- "hostz", a host with a direct connection to some
- UUCP->Internet gateway, such as "seismo" or
- "harvard".
-
- PhoneNet ==> XEROX user.registry@XEROX
- Note: Do NOT use "%" between "user" and "registry".
- Some Xerox registries are "pa" and "wbst".
- XEROX ==> PhoneNet user%host@csnet-relay.ARPA
-
- [All messages from PhoneNet sites are relayed through CSNET-RELAY.ARPA.
- Thanks to Richard M. Alderson, III <Alderson@SU-Score> for corrections
- to MAILNET information in the original CSNET-FORUM article. --CDM]
-
- Arpanet ==> BITNET user%node.BITNET@gateway
- gateway = UCBVAX.ARPA or WISCVM.ARPA
-
- Arpanet ==> CSNet user%node.CSNET@csnet-relay.ARPA
-
- Arpanet ==> Usenet ...!user@gateway
- Usenet ==> Arpanet ...!gateway!user@arpanode
- gateway = seismo or ucbvax
-
- Usenet ==> BITNET ...!psuvax1!user%bitnode.BITNET
- ...!psuvax1!user@bitnode.BITNET
- ...!gateway!bitnode.BITNET!user
- gateway = psuvax1 or talcott
-
- BITNET ==> Usenet MAILER@PSUVAX1 using BSMTP
-
- Lots of ppl inquired about this one...
-
- To send from BITNET to Usenet, construct a file as follows...
-
- vvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvv Start of file
- HELO yournode.BITNET
- VERB ON
- TICK 0001
- MAIL FROM:<youruid@yournode.BITNET>
- RCPT TO:<user@node.UUCP>
- DATA
- Date: Current date goes here
- From: youruid@yournode.BITNET
- To: user@node.UUCP
- Subject: gateway
-
- < Put the text of your message here. The blank line between the sebject and
- < the beginning of you text is necessary. End you text with a '.' on a line
- < by itself, and end the mailing with 'QUIT' on a line, as shown below.
-
- .
- QUIT
- ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ End of file
-
- Send the file to mailer @ psuvax1 as a punch file, class = M, i.e. mail class.
- example: on VMS running JNET:
- SEND/FILE/PUNCH/CLASS=M filename.ext MAILER@PSUVAX1
-
- Thanx to everybody who sent info, especially to the person who sent me all
- the info on Internet and Phonenet. I lost your id. Can you also send me
- the GATEWAY BSMTP file? RIT students have restricted access to BITNET, and
- I can't get it myself..
-
- ==============================================================================
- Steve Wall [Snoopy] @ Rochester Institute of Technology
- USnail: 6675 Crosby Rd, Lockport, NY 14094, USA
- Usenet: ...!ritcv!spw2562 Unix 4.2 BSD
- BITNET: SPW2562@RITVAXC VAX/VMS 4.2
- Voice: Yell "Hey Steve!"
-
- Disclaimer: What I have just said may or may not have anything
- to do with what I was actually thinking...
-
-
- From: jsdy%hadron.UUCP@seismo.CSS.GOV (Joseph S. D. Yao)
- Newsgroups: net.followup
- Subject: Re: internet mailing summary
- Date: 27 Nov 85 06:08:54 GMT
-
- I am impressed. This is quite an effort; public thanks to steve
- wall aka snoopy. One caveat I think must be added (since I fell
- into it >1ce in younger days).
-
- In article <9072@ritcv.UUCP> spw2562@ritcv.UUCP (snoopy) writes:
- >UUCP ==> Internet hosta!...!hostz!seismo!user@host.ARPA or
- > hosta!...!hostz!harvard!user@host.ARPA
- > Note: "hosta" is the sender's nearest neighbor.
- > The sender must specify a UUCP routing path to
- > "hostz", a host with a direct connection to some
- > UUCP->Internet gateway, such as "seismo" or
- > "harvard".
-
- None of hostb ... hostz may be on the ARPAnet or some other net
- that will swallow @'d addresses. For instance, if I want to send
- ARPA mail from aplvax and forget that umcp-cs is also an ARPA host,
- I might construct:
- umcp-cs!seismo!eric@ucbvax.ARPA
- Well, when it gets to umcp-cs, the address is:
- seismo!eric@ucbvax.ARPA
- which gets shipped across the ARPAnet to ucbvax, which then looks for
- seismo!eric
- Well, this is a bad example since ucbvax just happens to call seismo
- right back, cross-country (3250 miles), and I think that there is an
- eric there -- but not the one i was sending mail to, on ucbvax!
-
- [Potential flamers -- I didn't say HOW ucbvax called seismo back.]
-
- The bottom line is, that you want the shortest UUCP route to an ARPA
- server. You may have gathered from above that it's possible to go
- through the ARPA net and then back onto UUCP, which is true, and
- left as an exercise for those who don't want to send a stamped
- self-addressed packet envelope.
-
- Incidentally, seismo.CSS.GOV (sometimes incorrectly identified as
- seismo.arpa) has been complaining that so much mail passes through
- their site every day, that if they charged a penny a kilobyte they
- could all retire as billionaires. One report says that factions are
- split between doing that and losing their mail-forwarding software.
- ;-) Seriously, if anyone can find a site other than seismo to
- forward through, I know some folk who'd appreciate it.
- --
-
- Joe Yao hadron!jsdy@seismo.{CSS.GOV,ARPA,UUCP}
-