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This forum is supplied for demonstration purposes only and is accessible via the IBM OS/2 BBS system. What you see below is the forum as it existed on 10/30/92. The IBM OS/2 Bulletin Board System (BBS) is IBM's new electronic support offering for OS/2 Version 2.0. With OS/2 BBS you can electronically review OS/2 technical information, submit program defects to IBM, and receive information on how to solve problems. Users of the OS/2 BBS not only include OS/2 customers, but the OS/2 expertise of the entire internal IBM community worldwide. OS2BBS makes all this available via a local or toll free number in most major cities. To request a complete OS/2 BBS Information Package detailing the OS/2 BBS offering and including pricing and registration/access information, please call: 1-800-547-1283. ===== WRKFRAME CFORUM created at 01:48:59 on 92/04/08 GMT (by HOPKINS at AUSVM8) IBM UNCLASSIFIED ---------------- The information in this forum is considered by IBM to be external and may be shared by everyone who is given access. This forum is shared with the internal IBM employee conferences. Forum: WRKFRAME CFORUM Forum subject: IBM WorkFrame/2 This FORUM is provided as a conferencing tool to promote discussion on the topics associated with IBM WorkFrame/2, and present issues, questions, or problems associated with it's use. IBM WorkFrame/2 Version 1.0, is a configurable, project-oriented application development environment, featuring an SAA/CUA (TM) conforming user interface. WorkFrame/2 is built with an open interface to serve as the integration point for the tools in the IBM OS/2 2.0 Developer's Toolkit as well as tools supporting C and other languages. Both 16-bit and 32-bit OS/2 tools can be plugged into the IBM WorkFrame/2. Contributions must not contain confidential or proprietary information. Each contributor agrees, in placing material in this forum, that IBM and other users are free to prepare derivative works based upon it, and to use, reproduce, perform, display and distribute inside and outside their company such material and such derivative works, without obligation or charge. IBM is not responsible or liable for the use, copying, or distribution of materials placed on this forum, and has therefore no obligation to control such acts. All subscribers are required to abide at all times by the conference rules described in the Bulletin Board Rules under "News and Announcements". All IBM personnel are required to abide at all times by the IBMPC RULES and the IBM Business Conduct Guidelines. IBM personnel will read the CUSTOMER FORUM RULES in IBMPC RULES before contributing. Contributions violating these rules will be deleted by the CFORUM Owner or their delegate, and in some cases by an IBM conference Administrator. The OS2BBS CFORUM is where anyone may raise concerns regarding rules violations found in this and other CFORUMS. The IBM Owner of this forum is: Name: Kenneth M. Hopkins, OS/2 Support Services Mailing Address: IBM Manufacturing and Development 11400 Burnet Road Internal Zip 2900-042/1D003 Austin, Texas 78758 IBM Node/Userid: AUSVM8/HOPKINS ----- WRKFRAME CFORUM appended at 13:25:38 on 92/04/09 GMT (by XXTCAN06 at TORVMCOP) ..... WRKFRAME CFORUM modified at 20:03:17 on 92/04/23 GMT (by HOPKINS at AUSVM8) Subject: Desktop icons gone after installing OS/2 2.0 GA. I thought I had it planned just right! I had the latest beta drops of Workframe/2, C/Set2, Toolkit/2 installed on my D: drive while the C: drive was the OS/2 boot device. I wanted to plan it so that when I installed OS/2 GA on the C: drive (after reformatting it) I would not lose the desktop icons that had been created by Workframe/2, C/Set2 and Toolkit/2. So what I had done was to create a folder on my D: drive into which I had moved all the desktop icons that the Workframe-C-Toolkit had created on my desktop in the hope that these icons would be kept on the D: drive safe from the re-install of OS/2 base GA on the C: drive; these desktop icons were: "IBM C Set/2", "IBM Workframe/2", "PM Develop- ment Tools", "Sample Programs" and "Toolkit Information". But after the install of OS/2 2.0 GA I found upon opening that D:-drive folder that, although the desktop icons were still in it, the opening of these icons gave me empty icon views! (except, oddly enough, for the "IBM C Set/2" and "IBM Workframe/2" folder which had the same contents as the "Communications Manager" folder (the latest beta of which was reinstalled on the C: drive after the install of OS/2 2.0 GA)). Now, I realize I'm talking about 2 beta releases (Workframe-C-Toolkit and ES) but the basic questions is: Can desktop icons be saved from a total reinstall of the base or do they disappear when the OS2 INI file(s) is/are replaced upon reinstallement? Is my only solution to reinstall Workframe-C-Toolkit to have the desktop icons recreated? Pierre Legault. Transport Canada. 1-613-993-7149. ----- WRKFRAME CFORUM appended at 15:04:20 on 92/04/09 GMT (by XXNOVA24 at TORVMCOP) Subject: Desktop icons gone after installing OS/2 2.0 GA. Ref: Append at 13:25:38 on 92/04/09 GMT (by XXTCAN06 at TORVMCOP) You created a folder with all the settings on it for your D drive. Fine. But where dir you put the folder? If it was at the Desktop, then it's gone. (Desktop is resident on your Boot drive.) The installation of WF/2 C-SET/2 ,... writes information to the OS2.ini file. That's gone. You HAVE TO run the install to rebuild that information. (and you lose all your changes!!!!) It would be nice to have an option during the install for NOT to copy the files, just update the informations.(config.sys os2.ini FW2.ini) Geza Szivos 403-290-6583 ----- WRKFRAME CFORUM appended at 19:14:20 on 92/04/09 GMT (by XXTCAN06 at TORVMCOP) Subject: Desktop icons gone after installing OS/2 2.0 GA. Ref: Append at 15:04:20 on 92/04/09 GMT (by XXNOVA24 at TORVMCOP) Thanks for the info! I guess I'll reinstall Workframe-C-Toolkit! I had created that folder on the D: drive and only "deposited" a shadow of it on the desktop! ----- WRKFRAME CFORUM appended at 22:22:50 on 92/04/09 GMT (by HAYNEST at DALHQIC2) ..... WRKFRAME CFORUM modified at 15:42:27 on 92/04/10 GMT (by HAYNEST at DALHQIC2) Subject: Make error == >Whoops, I hadn't installed the Toolkit... >Yes, the C Set/2 and WF/2 are now on OS2PROD2! I've just finished installing 2.0 GA, Workframe and C Set/2, and I'm eager to start learning the new dev environment. I opened the MAHJONGG project and selected Actions>>Make. I got this error 'Error trying to start program. The program cannot be found in the directory path' Do I need to update my config.sys, or... ? Any help would be much appreciated. Also, is there any hard-copy documentation for the C Set and WorkFrame products available yet? Thx, Thom TL 522-4080 ----- WRKFRAME CFORUM appended at 22:47:25 on 92/04/09 GMT (by WKFRAME at TOROLAB6) Subject: Desktop icons gone after installing OS/2 2.0 GA. Ref: Append at 19:14:20 on 92/04/09 GMT (by XXTCAN06 at TORVMCOP) Before you go too far, WF/2 does allow you to just update the the desktop and config.sys. In the \IBMWF\BIN directory, their is a utility called ADDUSER.EXE. Run this program and only select the "Update CONFIG.SYS" and "Update Desktop" checkboxes. Then press O.K. This will also update your OS2.INI file. So, it is exactly what you are asking for. Unfortunately, I don't think that you can do this with the other products. ASIDE: ADDUSER.EXE was actually written for the purpose of allowing multiple users to share the same copy of the WF/2 on the LAN. But, so far most people seem to be using it to recover their environment after reinstalling OS/2. John Kehm ----- WRKFRAME CFORUM appended at 23:06:46 on 92/04/09 GMT (by XXNOVA24 at TORVMCOP) Subject: Make error Ref: Append at 22:22:50 on 92/04/09 GMT (by HAYNEST at DALHQIC2) Actually jou should reboot between each of the installations. Start with WF2, shut down, Toolkit, shutdown, CSet2, shotdown. Those installation programs need's to knew about the other environment. Each of those has a readme file on their first diskette. DOCS: When you go out and buy the shrink-wrapped , you can order the DOCS too. Geza Szivos 403-290-6583 PS: Is the GA WF2 and CSET out? ----- WRKFRAME CFORUM appended at 23:11:58 on 92/04/09 GMT (by WKFRAME at TOROLAB6) ..... WRKFRAME CFORUM modified at 23:26:05 on 92/04/09 GMT (by WKFRAME at TOROLAB6) Subject: Make error Ref: Append at 22:22:50 on 92/04/09 GMT (by HAYNEST at DALHQIC2) I can only guess that when you installed the C Set/2, you did not ask to have your config.sys updated for you. You can either re-install the compiler ;-), or update your config.sys file manually. You can get the changes that you need by looking at \IBMC\BIN\CSETENV.CMD. There is a tutorial for using C Set/2 with the WF/2. I'm not sure why the documents are not available on OS2PROD2. I'll check this out and let you know! P.S. Both products have GAed and their shrinked wrapped packages are being displayed at COMDEX in Chicago as I type this note. John Kehm ----- WRKFRAME CFORUM appended at 23:12:04 on 92/04/09 GMT (by XXTCAN06 at TORVMCOP) Subject: Desktop icons gone after installing OS/2 2.0 GA. Ref: Append at 22:47:25 on 92/04/09 GMT (by WKFRAME at TOROLAB6) Great news. Thanks for the info. It's a good thing I decided not to reinstall WorkFrame et al before leaving the office today. I shall use your suggestion tomorrow. Thanks a lot. PS: You're right. Other products should offer such an option. ----- WRKFRAME CFORUM appended at 23:17:47 on 92/04/09 GMT (by WKFRAME at TOROLAB6) Subject: Make error Ref: Append at 23:06:46 on 92/04/09 GMT (by XXNOVA24 at TORVMCOP) Actually, it isn't necessary to reboot after each installation. I've used the following method successfully: 1. Install the WF/2 2. Install the toolkit 3. Install C Set/2 4. Shut down 5. reboot 6. issue the command "addtool \toolkt20\os2bin\toolkt20.ini" if you wish to have the toolkit tools automatically installed in the WF/2 tools pulldown You can swap steps 1 and 2 if you wish. However, it is important that you install C Set/2 after the WF/2 and toolkit. John Kehm ----- WRKFRAME CFORUM appended at 14:50:55 on 92/04/13 GMT (by WKFRAME at TOROLAB6) Subject: Documentation Ref: Append at 23:17:47 on 92/04/09 GMT (by WKFRAME at TOROLAB6) If you want the hard copy documents you must order them separately. For IBMers, you can use puborder. The following documents exist for WorkFrame/2: o WorkFrame/2 Introduction (S10G-4475) o C Set/2 and WorkFrame/2: An Integrated Development Environment (S10G-4449) (aka the C Set/WorkFrame tutorial) John Kehm ----- WRKFRAME CFORUM appended at 15:24:28 on 92/04/14 GMT (by FRYERK at TOROLAB6) Subject: Documentation Ref: Append at 14:50:55 on 92/04/13 GMT (by WKFRAME at TOROLAB6) We are currently trying to get all the pubs placed in a package on OS2PROD2, so if you get the product off this disk, you can get the docs too (LIST38PP files). Of course, if you want printed and bound copies, you will need to do a PUBORDER. Kathryn Fryer P.S. The "C Set/WorkFrame Tutorial" (S10G-4449) is actually shipped with the C Set/2 product, NOT the WorkFrame/2 product (because the steps and screen captures in it are specific to the C Set/2 compiler and debugger...although it can be generalized). ----- WRKFRAME CFORUM appended at 22:19:24 on 92/04/14 GMT (by MIKEM at TUCVM8) ..... WRKFRAME CFORUM modified at 16:48:00 on 92/04/15 GMT (by MIKEM at TUCVM8) . ----- WRKFRAME CFORUM appended at 23:50:43 on 92/04/14 GMT (by KIKO at TOROLAB2) Subject: Load of the program failed. OS/2 return code = 2. Ref: Append at 22:19:24 on 92/04/14 GMT (by MIKEM at TUCVM8) Probable cause is that it can't find all the DLLs that it needs to run. Make sure that your libpath is set up right. reinstalls will erase all changes that were made by toolkit/compiler installs. Shouldn't questions from IBM id's go to the FORUMs? not CFORUMs? Kiko , Toronto Lab ----- WRKFRAME CFORUM appended at 14:22:04 on 92/04/15 GMT (by MIKEM at TUCVM8) ..... WRKFRAME CFORUM modified at 16:47:26 on 92/04/15 GMT (by MIKEM at TUCVM8) . ----- WRKFRAME CFORUM appended at 09:21:49 on 92/04/24 GMT (by KENKAHN at PKSMRVM) Subject: Make error Ref: Append at 23:17:47 on 92/04/09 GMT (by WKFRAME at TOROLAB6) I used the order WF/2 -> CSET/2 -> ToolKit. What am I missing because of this order? Should I reinstall CSET/2? Kenneth Kahn Staff of IBM Fellow/NetWork Computing Poughkeepsie, NY Internet: KENKAHN@PKSMRVM.VNET.IBM.COM IBMMAIL: USIB25P9 at IBMMAIL ----- WRKFRAME CFORUM appended at 13:27:03 on 92/04/24 GMT (by BIGBILL at TOROLAB6) Subject: Make error Ref: Append at 09:21:49 on 92/04/24 GMT (by KENKAHN at PKSMRVM) There's a problem with the toolkit that doesn't set up the HELPNDX env. var. properly if someone else has already set one up (C Set/2 in this case). Don't reinstall, just read the readme file in C Set/2 and Toolkit to figure out what to do. Bill Sarantakos OS/2 WorkFrame/2 Development Toronto, Ontario ----- WRKFRAME CFORUM appended at 22:58:28 on 92/04/28 GMT (by NIC148 at SFOVMIC6) Subject: No MAKEFILE.DEP Having successfully put a small test PM program project through the whole Workframe process, I moved on to something more ambitious - multiple C files, IPF compilation etc. When I invoke the Create Makefile... menu option however, although I can see the MAKEFILE.DEP data in the list box, it is not saved to a file and a subsequent MAKE aborts with "can't find MAKEFILE.DEP". Can anybody suggest what I'm missing? John ----- WRKFRAME CFORUM appended at 14:39:22 on 92/04/29 GMT (by WKFRAME at TOROLAB6) Subject: No MAKEFILE.DEP Ref: Append at 22:58:28 on 92/04/28 GMT (by NIC148 at SFOVMIC6) I assume that you let the project make file name default to "MAKEFILE". Furthermore, I assume that your project directory path contains a "." in one of the subdirectories. If you answered yes to both questions, then this is a known problem. I suggest you change the project make file name to something with an extension, such as "whatever.MAK". ----- WRKFRAME CFORUM appended at 17:00:34 on 92/05/15 GMT (by ECKMANN at PERVM1) Subject: SQLPREP Has any one tried to generate a make file with SQLPREP? Ed ----- WRKFRAME CFORUM appended at 11:12:50 on 92/05/21 GMT (by CRAIGM at SBRYVM4) ..... WRKFRAME CFORUM modified at 11:32:23 on 92/05/21 GMT (by CRAIGM at SBRYVM4) Subject: (wrong forum -- sorry) Craig McAllister (sent at 07:09:42 EDT on 05/21/92 from Southbury CT) ----- WRKFRAME CFORUM appended at 21:47:47 on 92/05/28 GMT (by SGLIU at RHQVM04) Subject: IBM C Developer's WorkSet/2 Promo Available via Purchase Order IBM C DEVELOPER'S WORKSET/2 PROMOTION AVAILABLE VIA PURCHASE ORDER MAY 28, 1992 Effective immediately, customers who wish to participate in the IBM C Developer's WorkSet/2 Discount Promotion and who require the use of Purchase Orders (PO) can do so by calling 1-800-IBM-CALL (1-800- 426-2255) and asking for Marisa. The hours of operation are from 8:00 AM - 7:00 PM (Eastern Time). In addition, orders can be placed through FAX: (303) 440-1639 or IBMLink: DAYVM2(IBMCALL). From May 19, 1992 until September 5, 1992, ANY developer can purchase WorkSet/2 at the special price of $295 (regularly priced at $895), a $600 savings! Credit Card orders will continue to be accepted through 1-800-3IBM-OS2 (1-800-342-6672). The IBM C Developer's WorkSet/2 includes: o IBM C Set/2 Version 1.0, a 32-bit C compiler and a full function PM Debugger; o IBM WorkFrame/2 Version 1.0, an open, configurable, project-oriented application development environment; o IBM Developer's Toolkit for OS/2 2.0, a comprehensive collection of productivity tools and a kernel debugger. Developers who currently own any one (1) of the following three products will be eligible for further discounts on the OS/2 2.0 Technical Library for $239 (regularly $299) and/or the IBM SAA CUA Controls Library/2 (CCL/2) for $357 (regularly $595). CCL/2 provides a set of CUA '91 GUI controls for OS/2 1.3 and Microsoft Windows 3.0 applications. When implemented, these applications will have a similar look-and-feel of OS/2 Version 2.0. * IBM OS/2 Programming Tools and Information Version 1.2/1.3; * IBM C/2 Version 1.1; * Microsoft SDK for OS/2 Version 1.2. Shipment is expected to begin on June 5, 1992, or as soon as supply is available. Customers who acquire the IBM C Developer's WorkSet/2 during this limited-time promotion will receive the OS/2 Developer Magazine at no charge. For further details, please refer to IBM Announcement Letter 392-111, dated 5/12/92. This promotion is available only in the United States. Steve Liu IBM PS Product Marketing ----- WRKFRAME CFORUM appended at 13:12:44 on 92/06/05 GMT (by EDSIMON at TOROLAB4) Subject: Customer visits Ref: None Hi, We are responsible for the technical information delivered with the WorkFrame/2 and C Set/2 products. That includes the online information as well as the hardcopy that goes out with the products. We would like to visit a customer site. The purpose of the visit would be twofold: 1) you (the customer) can tell us what you like or don't like about the product's documentation and 2) we can learn how to better design the information so it best suits our customers. If you are a customer who has been using the WorkFrame/2 and/or C Set/2 products for a month or more, and would like to show us how you use the product and its information, append a note to this forum saying so. If you are an IBM customer representative who wants to give your customers the chance to talk face to face with someone that worked on the product, let me know as well. Please let me know by June 15 if you are interested in having us visit your site. I will need to know your name, the name of your company, your telephone number, and the city you work in. P.S. While we are eager to hear from as many customers as possible, please be aware that we may be limited in the extent of visits we can make. Regards, Ed Simon and Kathryn Fryer ----- WRKFRAME CFORUM appended at 17:24:08 on 92/07/01 GMT (by PNWB016 at HONE86) Subject: Sharing Workframe .PRJ files Is there a way to setup the Workframe so that the .PRJ files are shared between users, but each user can have their own .INI file for their personal settings? We want to be able to put our .PRJ files on a server (to anyone can regenerate the applications), but want to be able to have each user have their own Workframe settings for things like color, editors etc... Thanks in advance for any advise. Wayne L. Holmes U S WEST Communications ----- WRKFRAME CFORUM appended at 16:06:16 on 92/07/03 GMT (by FRANCIS at TOROLAB6) Subject: Sharing Workframe .PRJ files Ref: Append at 17:24:08 on 92/07/01 GMT (by PNWB016 at HONE86) From: Tim Francis -- WorkFrame/2 development You can use the ADDUSER tool (which is documented in the WorkFrame reference guide) to change the workframe "home" directory. This will place all project and language profile files in that directory (which could be a shared directory on the server). There is currently no way to have project files in multiple directories. You should be aware that WorkFrame makes no attempt to serialize multiple accesses - if everyone has write access to this shared directory, bad things *may* happen. (Of course, changing the project file is not a common occurrence, but to be safe I'd suggest making the directory read only). Hope that helps. -tim ----- WRKFRAME CFORUM appended at 16:45:35 on 92/07/03 GMT (by FRYERK at TOROLAB6) Subject: Sharing Workframe .PRJ files Ref: Append at 17:24:08 on 92/07/01 GMT (by PNWB016 at HONE86) Yes. You can install the WorkFrame/2 on the LAN and use the AddUser utility to create the WorkFrame/2 environment on the client workstation. Use the normal installation process, using a target installation directory on the LAN server. From the client machine, access the IBMWF\BIN directory on the server, and type: ADDUSER You'll get a dialog from which you can choose to copy a number of items to the client, including the user profile file (to customize the interface), language profiles, .PRJ files, etc. In your case, you'd probably only want the user profiles. The installation process and AddUser utility are described in the IBM WorkFrame/2 Introduction booklet. Online help is also available. Kathryn Fryer Toronto Information Development ----- WRKFRAME CFORUM appended at 14:53:54 on 92/07/06 GMT (by PNWB016 at HONE85) Subject: Sharing Workframe .PRJ files Ref: Append at 16:45:35 on 92/07/03 GMT (by FRYERK at TOROLAB6) Kathryn: We tried that, but it appears that the workframe refuses to look for project files on the LAN drive... it seems to insist that it look on the local drive where the user has placed his INI file for the workframe. Thanks in advance for the suggestions, we will continue to work with if. FYI, we are using our version control system (in our case PVCS) to manage access to the .PRJ files... the problem is we don't want multiple copies of the .PRJ files floating around on each developers local drives. Wayne Holmes U S WEST Communications ----- WRKFRAME CFORUM appended at 15:45:14 on 92/07/10 GMT (by TCSC086 at OS2CUST) Subject: Sharing Workframe .PRJ files Ref: Append at 14:53:54 on 92/07/06 GMT (by PNWB016 at HONE85) Is this the last word on this subject? Only caught part of this thread - but shared PRJ files would be a great help fo r project management. Dan Lundy Time Customer Service, Inc. Tampa, Fl ----- WRKFRAME CFORUM appended at 17:50:08 on 92/07/10 GMT (by FRANCIS at TOROLAB6) Subject: Sharing Workframe .PRJ files Ref: Append at 15:45:14 on 92/07/10 GMT (by TCSC086 at OS2CUST) Append at 16:06:16 on 92/07/03 GMT (by FRANCIS at TOROLAB6) From: Tim Francis -- WorkFrame/2 development I'm sorry, was there an outstanding question? See my append (2nd ref) for details on how you can change your home directory to the lan, but (as I stated) there is currently no way to have project files in multiple directories. If I've ignored a question somewhere, please ask again. -tim ----- WRKFRAME CFORUM appended at 16:05:06 on 92/07/13 GMT (by SC036696 at AUSVM1) Subject: wk/2 minimized window restart situation I have experienced this situation a number of times since I have been working on OS/2 2.0 and am not sure whether things are supposed to work this way or not. The situation is not devastating, simply annoying. The situation unfolds: 1) I start up the workframe/2; 2) 'MAKE" a pro- ject; 3) minimize the MAKE results window; 4) minimize the workframe/2 window; 5) do some other things; 6) bring up the minimized window viewer icon view; 7) close the MAKE results window. At this point in time I am unable to restart the workframe by double-clicking on its icon in this minimized window view. I must close the workframe window and restart the workframe/2 from "scratch" to return to my original point of work in progress. This is annoying. Somehow, this just does not seem right. Has anyone else experienced this; is there a known way of getting around this? Thanks. ----- WRKFRAME CFORUM appended at 18:11:33 on 92/07/13 GMT (by WKFRAME at TOROLAB6) Subject: Sharing Workframe .PRJ files Ref: Append at 17:50:08 on 92/07/10 GMT (by FRANCIS at TOROLAB6) The final word is, currently the *.PRJ (project files), *.PRF (language profiles), and *.INI (user preferences) must all reside in the same directory. This directory is referred to as the WF install directory (or the home directory). You can change the install directory using ADDUSER.EXE, but you cannot separate these files into different directories. We have already noted requests for this capability (but can't/won't comment on when it will become available). Something like JOIN.EXE for OS/2 would do nicely to get around this limitation! ...John Kehm ----- WRKFRAME CFORUM appended at 19:27:30 on 92/07/13 GMT (by PNWB016 at HONE85) Subject: Sharing Workframe .PRJ files Ref: Append at 18:11:33 on 92/07/13 GMT (by WKFRAME at TOROLAB6) John: Would a PASR help? I was the person who posted the origional question and would really like to see this capability. Again, specifically we want the ability to put a users Workframe INI files in one directory and the PRJ files into another. Wayne Holmes U S WEST Communications ----- WRKFRAME CFORUM appended at 12:38:31 on 92/07/14 GMT (by HAZLETT at TOROLAB6) ..... WRKFRAME CFORUM modified at 15:04:50 on 92/07/14 GMT (by HAZLETT at TOROLAB6) Subject: wk/2 minimized window restart situation Ref: Append at 16:05:06 on 92/07/13 GMT (by SC036696 at AUSVM1) Thanks very much for your apend. We were able to reproduce the situtation as you reported and are further investigating why this is in fact happening. There is however a rather simple workaround. Instead of double clicking to restore Workframe/2 single click with the right mouse button and then select MAXIMIZE. We have done this several times over and it seems to work just fine. Hope this helps p.s. just found out how to fix my spelling errors. Hazlett, T.G. ----- WRKFRAME CFORUM appended at 12:57:55 on 92/07/14 GMT (by HAZLETT at TOROLAB6) ..... WRKFRAME CFORUM modified at 14:41:05 on 92/07/14 GMT (by HAZLETT at TOROLAB6) ----- WRKFRAME CFORUM appended at 20:36:07 on 92/07/14 GMT (by FONT at STLVM10) Subject: Restarting WorkFrame/2 I am a new user and I ran into the following problem: I used WorkFrame succesfully to compile and debug my program several times. I close WorkFrame for the day. The next day I start WorkFrame by double-clicking on its icon. The copyright dialog displays. The large window (blue background, can't remember the name) displays but disappears. Finally, only the Action Log displays. I am left with no way of going to my project. I only have the Action Log. How come? Carlos A. Font Santa Teresa Lab. ----- WRKFRAME CFORUM appended at 20:50:47 on 92/07/14 GMT (by FONT at STLVM10) Subject: Restarting WorkFrame/2 Ref: Append at 20:36:07 on 92/07/14 GMT (by FONT at STLVM10) I removed the file WFWINPOS.INI and I am now able to start it normally. Perhaps that file was corrupted. It seems to work OK now. Carlos A. Font Santa Teresa Lab. ----- WRKFRAME CFORUM appended at 12:03:49 on 92/07/15 GMT (by HAZLETT at TOROLAB6) Subject: Restarting WorkFrame/2 Ref: Append at 20:36:07 on 92/07/14 GMT (by FONT at STLVM10) Carlos: I suggest you delete IBMWF\WFWINPOS.INI file then restart Workframe/2. This should solve your problem. You probably saved a maximized WORKFRAME/2 main screen (which is a known problem). Regards,: Hazlett, T.G. Tie Line: 778 - 3353 ----- WRKFRAME CFORUM appended at 15:17:38 on 92/07/15 GMT (by FONT at STLVM10) Subject: Restarting WorkFrame/2 Ref: Append at 12:03:49 on 92/07/15 GMT (by HAZLETT at TOROLAB6) Thanks. I had noticed that. I didn't intend to save a maximized main window. In fact, I don't know what that does. I must have done that unintentionally. Carlos A. Font Santa Teresa Lab. ----- WRKFRAME CFORUM appended at 13:33:42 on 92/07/30 GMT (by 64924111 at TOROHON1) Subject: Creating a MAKEFILE for an .EXE and .DLL Hello, I am developing a program that has both an .EXE and a .DLL in it. The source is in separate PROGA.C and PROGADLL.C. How can I use the MAKEFILE Creation tool to create a MAKEFILE for both the .DLL and .EXE files? Thanks and regards.....Pete Liukaitis ----- WRKFRAME CFORUM appended at 15:58:01 on 92/07/30 GMT (by FRANCIS at TOROLAB6) Subject: Creating a MAKEFILE for an .EXE and .DLL Ref: Append at 13:33:42 on 92/07/30 GMT (by 64924111 at TOROHON1) From: Tim Francis -- WorkFrame/2 development I've answered your append in the FORUM that you originally placed the question in; please don't put questions in more than one (C)FORUM, as it only makes more work for everybody. However, since you did put the question here, and since customers may also have the same question, I'll repeat my answer as well. A base project can only have a single target, and a single set of options for LINK, COMPILE, etc (different options would be required to build a DLL and EXE). You could set up two base projects, one for the DLL, and one for the EXE (both can be in the same directory if you wish). You can then create a composite project, containing both base projects, which will allow you to build both at the same time. -tim ----- WRKFRAME CFORUM appended at 03:57:38 on 92/07/31 GMT (by WZ00700 at OS2CUST) Subject: Long Filename Support for NMAKE I've noticed while using the WorkFrame/2 that the NMAKE program always truncate s the long filenames to an 8.3 format and then issues an error because the comp iler cannot find the truncated names. If anyone could tell me how to avoid is proble while still using the long filenames I would be greatful. Thanks Jeff Monheiser ----- WRKFRAME CFORUM appended at 11:27:46 on 92/07/31 GMT (by LINSUSAN at HKGVM8) Subject: Make file creation When I want to change my existing MAKE file to include new libraries, DEF files, etc. I use the following workframe provided function : -> Tools -> Make File Creation -> Link Options -> Filename Option -> Type in the new names in the entry fields. However, when I click on START to re-create the MAKE file and specify over-write the old MAKE file. The new file doesn't include the statement I added. I always have to edit the MAKE file manually. Is this is a bug in Workframe? Susan S. Lin ----- WRKFRAME CFORUM appended at 14:39:32 on 92/08/04 GMT (by PARKER at SCRVM2) Subject: Long Filename Support for NMAKE Ref: Append at 03:57:38 on 92/07/31 GMT (by WZ00700 at OS2CUST) I have done some investigation of NMAKE using CodeView to disassemble the code. I have found that the problem occurs when checking the version of OS/2 in order to determine if long filenames are supported. For ANY minor version number less than 20 (corresponds to .2) long filenames are not allowed. Thus the problem with OS/2 version 2.0. I have generated two patches that appear to get around this problem. One for Microsoft's NMAKE version 1.11 and the other for IBM's NMAKE version 2.000.000. The patches allow long filenames with any version of OS/2 after 1.0. For NMAKE version 1.11, file size 86539 and file date 2-20-90 use the PATCH utility supplied with OS/2 and specify file offset 7A60. The data at this location should be: 80 3E CD 13 14 ... The 14 is the version number. Change this to 00. Thus the data should now be: 80 3E CD 13 00 ... For NMAKE version 2.000.000, file size 88013 and file date 3-30-92 use the PATCH utility and specify file offset 7B34. The data at this location should be: 80 3E 6D 15 14 ... The 14 is the version number. Change this to 00. Thus the data should now be: 80 3E 6D 15 00 ... There is at least one other place where the version is checked, but so far I have not found a problem leaving that code unchanged. This is NOT an OS/2 problem, but rather a bug in Microsoft's code. Jeff Parker ROLM Systems, Santa Clara ktxt48a@PRODIGY ----- WRKFRAME CFORUM appended at 15:15:41 on 92/08/04 GMT (by BIGBILL at TOROLAB6) Subject: Long Filename Support for NMAKE Ref: Append at 14:39:32 on 92/08/04 GMT (by PARKER at SCRVM2) I think that there is actually a bit in the EXE that is checked when it is a 16-bit EXE to figure out whether or not the EXE supports or allows long file names to be supported. This bit is normally turned on using a particular option on the NAME statement in the .DEF file. For 32-bit EXEs, this bit is on or is never checked and assumed to be on. NMAKE is a 16-bit EXE and so I think this is what is allowing your 'fix' to work. A better way would be to find the bit since changing the version number could have other consequences. Either way, none of this is supported. Bill Sarantakos OS/2 C Compiler Development Toronto, Ontario PS. Neither I nor my area are actually responsible for NMAKE. I'm just providing some feedback based on my experience. ----- WRKFRAME CFORUM appended at 17:21:48 on 92/08/04 GMT (by RAYMONDJ at FSHVMX) Subject: NMAKE Errors Ref: I just making the switch to CSET/2 and have a problem with where to find a explanation of the NMAKE errors. I'm getting a U1071 error and I can't find where these errors are documented. Thanks, J. Raymond (RAYMONDJ @ FSHVMX) 1992/08/04 13:19 EDT ----- WRKFRAME CFORUM appended at 17:45:43 on 92/08/04 GMT (by PARKER at SCRVM2) Subject: Long Filename Support for NMAKE Ref: Append at 15:15:41 on 92/08/04 GMT (by BIGBILL at TOROLAB6) Perhaps I should have provided more details in my append. NMAKE version 1.11 (the one provided with Microsoft's C 6.0 compiler) works fine under OS/2 1.3 WITH long filenames. Thus the bit IS set in the .EXE that allows long filenames. The problem is that NMAKE will not work under OS/2 2.0. The problem is occurring because the check for the OS/2 version was not done correctly. It appears that the same source code was used to create the NMAKE that is supplied with the Workset and thus the bug was carried along. This subject has been discussed several times over the last few months on CompuServe in the OS2DEV forum. So far IBM has not acknowledged the problem or provided a fix. In the meantime, I decided to find a workaround and provide this fix to others that would like to use long filenames. I do not work for IBM and did not mean to imply that this workaround was supplied by or supported by IBM. Jeff Parker ROLM Systems, Santa Clara ktxt48a@PRODIGY ----- WRKFRAME CFORUM appended at 23:21:09 on 92/08/04 GMT (by FRANCIS at TOROLAB6) Subject: NMAKE Errors Ref: Append at 17:21:48 on 92/08/04 GMT (by RAYMONDJ at FSHVMX) From: Tim Francis -- WorkFrame/2 development I can't find that error documented (on-line) either... but you'd do better asking your question in OS2TLKIT (C)FORUM (NMAKE is part of the toolkit, not WorkFrame). -tim ----- WRKFRAME CFORUM appended at 17:48:08 on 92/08/21 GMT (by PSC30 at OS2CUST) Subject: Kernel debugging I need to rewrite a 1.3 device driver for 2.0. I originally used ASDT to debug it. I now need whatever information/documentation is available for the "new(?)" kernel debugger for 2.0. Where is this documented? Is there something other than ON-LINE pubs to explain this and help me through it? "On-Line" is at best difficult to use unless you have a stable machine (other than the one you're developing on) to view the documents on.. Secondly, and more generally, where is ALL of the compiler, debugger, etc documented? Pub numbers please...... (PS: My devcie driver is a mouse. It appears that substantial changes have been made to the interfaces ..) ----- WRKFRAME CFORUM appended at 15:39:22 on 92/08/31 GMT (by PNWB016 at OS2CUST) Subject: EXEPACK - How to specify I can't find the "incantation" on the LINK386 settings dialog in the Workframe that will result in the EXEPACK switch being set in the generated MAKE file. Any suggestions on what I need to set? Thanks in advance... Wayne "I MUST be missing something obvious" Holmes U S WEST Communications ----- WRKFRAME CFORUM appended at 20:04:01 on 92/08/31 GMT (by MELAHN at CARVM3) Subject: ADDTOOL I've made several attempts (starting with the documented sample) to define an RC file to register a set of tools to WF. Depending on the format of the RC file, either MAKEINI hangs (that's what happens with the sample) or MAKEINI produces an INI file that ADDTOOL rejects because it doesn't contain a tool count (even though one is specified in the RC file). Would someone be able to append a sample RC file that they know works - thanks. Greg Melahn ----- WRKFRAME CFORUM appended at 23:58:57 on 92/08/31 GMT (by BIGBILL at TOROLAB6) Subject: EXEPACK - How to specify Ref: Append at 15:39:22 on 92/08/31 GMT (by PNWB016 at OS2CUST) Obviously...it is missing! ;-) (Known problem.) A trick you should be able to get away with is to add /EXEPACK to one of the four entry fields in the filename options dialog. Bill Sarantakos OS/2 C Compiler Development Toronto, Ontario ----- WRKFRAME CFORUM appended at 06:28:41 on 92/09/01 GMT (by SBAASTL at SYDVM1) Subject: Enabled Editors Is the currently available version of Brief enabled for WF/2? What other currently available editors are enabled for WF/2? Clive Astle Australian Programming Centre ----- WRKFRAME CFORUM appended at 14:06:36 on 92/09/01 GMT (by TCSC086 at OS2CUST) Subject: ADDTOOL Ref: Append at 20:04:01 on 92/08/31 GMT (by MELAHN at CARVM3) Greg, Not much help but... I gave up trying to integrate the various and sundry dev tools a few weeks ago. I realize this probably irritates the WFrame dev group. Apologies. I belive in their direction - but I found the current implementation hinders rather than helps. Specifically, lack of inclusion for DBM/SQL preprocessing, SOM/WPShell preprocessing, serious tool add ins. The toolkit editors are good but rather simple to connect. COMPILATION is the problem. After years of the Borland IDE, I have dropped to several working command lines, EPM (which does NOT do what I need either), and hand crafted make files. Hardly a step forward. I admire and applaud the Workframe direction. I'll wait for a better and more useful implementation.For example, IBM Wframe team: if you can implement or provide a SOM/WPS browser (ala Smalltalk) - not only will I worship the ground you walk on but you will have TRULY boosted productivity. Dan Lundy Time Customer Service, Inc. Tampa, Fl ----- WRKFRAME CFORUM appended at 14:35:42 on 92/09/01 GMT (by PNWB016 at HONE85) Subject: EXEPACK - How to specify Ref: Append at 23:58:57 on 92/08/31 GMT (by BIGBILL at TOROLAB6) Bill: WHEW!, so I'm not going crazy. Thanks for the workaround, I will open a problem on this so I can get the fix when it comes out. Thanks again! Wayne "This space for rent" Holmes U S WEST Communications ----- WRKFRAME CFORUM appended at 14:51:23 on 92/09/01 GMT (by FRANCIS at TOROLAB6) Subject: ADDTOOL Ref: Append at 14:06:36 on 92/09/01 GMT (by TCSC086 at OS2CUST) From: Tim Francis -- WorkFrame/2 development Thanks for the feedback. We are working on some of the features that you mention (such as better integration of pre-processors, etc). Comments such as yours is very valuable to us. As far as a SOM/WPS browser, I completely agree that it would be very nice to have. Where I disagree is including such a browser as part of Workframe. Workframe is designed as language, and tool, independent. We should (and can, and will) provide smooth integration with tools, but (for example) it will be up to the SOM developers to provide a SOM browser. -tim ----- WRKFRAME CFORUM appended at 15:00:32 on 92/09/01 GMT (by FRANCIS at TOROLAB6) Subject: Enabled Editors Ref: Append at 06:28:41 on 92/09/01 GMT (by SBAASTL at SYDVM1) From: Tim Francis -- WorkFrame/2 development I don't think Brief is currently enabled for Workframe/2, but you'll have to check with the vendor. We've spoken (and provided the interface documents) to several editor vendors, but I believe the only one released to date is Source Link (by, um, Source Line?). -tim ----- WRKFRAME CFORUM appended at 22:46:31 on 92/09/01 GMT (by SBAASTL at SYDVM1) Subject: Enabled Editors Ref: Append at 15:00:32 on 92/09/01 GMT (by FRANCIS at TOROLAB6) Anyone have a telephone number for Source Link pls (NOT 1-800 I'm from DownUnder)? Clive Astle ----- WRKFRAME CFORUM appended at 22:49:13 on 92/09/01 GMT (by SBAASTL at SYDVM1) Subject: BookManager READ and Workframe CSET manuals are provided online in Bookmanager READ format. How do people find using them in conjunction with Workframe? What should be changed to make it easier? Clive Astle ----- WRKFRAME CFORUM appended at 14:29:09 on 92/09/02 GMT (by FRANCIS at TOROLAB6) Subject: Enabled Editors Ref: Append at 22:46:31 on 92/09/01 GMT (by SBAASTL at SYDVM1) From: Tim Francis -- WorkFrame/2 development SourceLine Software, Inc. 7770 Regents Rd. #113-502 San Diego, California 92122 (619) 587-4713 Please tell the vendor that you are interested in their editor because of their WorkFrame/2 support. -tim ----- WRKFRAME CFORUM appended at 15:01:46 on 92/09/02 GMT (by FRANCIS at TOROLAB6) Subject: BookManager READ and Workframe Ref: Append at 22:49:13 on 92/09/01 GMT (by SBAASTL at SYDVM1) From: Tim Francis -- WorkFrame/2 development The best approach is to use EPM, or another editor that supports the QWIKINF help. While you're typing, simply position the cursor on a function name, and hit Control-H (help). This will start the C Set/2 help (assuming the cursor was on a C library function), and open it to the page for that function. This also works for the OS/2 toolkit functions. Another method is to add the C Set/2 reference (or again, the toolkit functions) as a tool. Go to configure->tools->new, and add c:\os2\view.exe as the tool, and dde4help.inf as the parameters. This will now appear on the tools pulldown, and will allow you to easily start the C Set/2 reference. Hope that helps. -tim ----- WRKFRAME CFORUM appended at 13:30:03 on 92/09/03 GMT (by TCSC086 at OS2CUST) Subject: ADDTOOL Ref: Append at 14:51:23 on 92/09/01 GMT (by FRANCIS at TOROLAB6) Tim, You are most gracious in accepting and listening to my fustrated harangues. I DO appreciate it. SOM Browser - your point that the SOM group should do it is well taken. Do you believe the interface to Workframe provides the mechanisms today to implement such a critter? Would it be just a spun off Editor like EPM? In that case, perhaps an enhancement to the Editor configuration within Workframe that brings up various editors based on source TYPE or EXTENSION? How about an easy way to keep all the tools within the FRAME (ala now defunct MDI spec.) I read and saw the option that I thought would do this. It didn't. In the update interim, how about a TEXT file or some such from YOUR group that maps NMAKE options to WORKFRAME - would REALLY be a great help! I want to save compilation and linkage options OUTSIDE of a project as well as INSIDE a project. I don't see a way of doing this now. THANKS! Dan Lundy Time Customer Service, Inc. Tampa, Fl ----- WRKFRAME CFORUM appended at 19:04:37 on 92/09/03 GMT (by FRANCIS at TOROLAB6) Subject: ADDTOOL Ref: Append at 13:30:03 on 92/09/03 GMT (by TCSC086 at OS2CUST) From: Tim Francis -- WorkFrame/2 development WorkFrame is continuing to evolve, both externally (appearence and ease of use), and internally (smoother intergration with other tools). Many parts are still under development, and the few that are complete haven't been announced yet... but it's helpful to see your suggestions, so we know we're moving in the right direction. I don't understand your comments about keeping all the tools within "the FRAME", or (unfortunately) the makefile. Do you mean passing options to NMAKE? Finally, there is no interface in version 1 to allow external access to the project options. This will be enhanced for the next release. -tim ----- WRKFRAME CFORUM appended at 20:12:37 on 92/09/03 GMT (by PNWB016 at HONE82) Subject: More Workframe requests Ref: Append at 19:04:37 on 92/09/03 GMT (by FRANCIS at TOROLAB6) Tom: Is anything being done to help out with the support of the makefiles? One of the things that I REALLY liked about the Microsoft PWB was the ability to switch from a "debugging" to a "production" compile from the menu. In Workset we have to go in and change options in the C/Set and Linker, then regnerate the makefile. It is all to easy to "mess up". Wayne "Hope it's ok to say I LIKE something about a MS product <g>" Holmes U S WEST Communications ----- WRKFRAME CFORUM appended at 18:23:41 on 92/09/04 GMT (by TCSC086 at OS2CUST) Subject: ADDTOOL Ref: Append at 19:04:37 on 92/09/03 GMT (by FRANCIS at TOROLAB6) By "keeping the tools within the Frame" I meant the child tools or started external programs (PM) actually Clipping/Residing in the Frame window of the WORKFRAME product. (ala Multiple Document Interface). This way, project boxes and file controls aren't floating all over my desktop. Dan Lundy Time Customer Service, Inc. Tampa, Fl ----- WRKFRAME CFORUM appended at 21:11:08 on 92/09/08 GMT (by FRANCIS at TOROLAB6) Subject: More Workframe requests Ref: Append at 20:12:37 on 92/09/03 GMT (by PNWB016 at HONE82) From: Tim Francis -- WorkFrame/2 development Wayne, there's lots being done on the makefile creation, but I don't think it will address the items you mention. Presumably you want some form of makefile command line switch, which would select which version to build. I don't plan on including that sort of support, but I think the new features will keep you happy, and I can also suggest a method of doing what you want. Second things first, you can create a new project, pointing to the same directory, with the same target, but choose a debug set of options. When opening a project, it will now be a simple matter to decide whether you want to use the optimized or debug version today. This eliminates the need to re-build the makefile (unless you really want to change options). Finally the new makefile creation utility is far more flexible than the existing tool, and will allow any tool (or pre-processor or...) to be built into the makefile(*). There will always be exceptions, but the idea is to minimize the number of times you'll need to look at the makefile at all. (*) Usual caveats and "still under development" disclaimers apply. -tim (You can like MS products, just don't call me Tom again ;-) ----- WRKFRAME CFORUM appended at 21:12:57 on 92/09/08 GMT (by FRANCIS at TOROLAB6) Subject: ADDTOOL Ref: Append at 18:23:41 on 92/09/04 GMT (by TCSC086 at OS2CUST) From: Tim Francis -- WorkFrame/2 development Have you seen the "capture tools" option, under the configure->preferences pulldown? This allows you to decide whether started tools should be captured (ie children of the WorkFrame, and able to float above other WorkFrame windows), or independent processes. -tim ----- WRKFRAME CFORUM appended at 14:36:13 on 92/09/09 GMT (by PNWB016 at HONE81) Subject: More Workframe requests Ref: Append at 21:11:08 on 92/09/08 GMT (by FRANCIS at TOROLAB6) Tim (or is that Tom? <g>): Thanks for the idea on "production" and "debug" make files... that certainly meets my requirement. Wayne "I can't even spell my own name half the time" Holmes ----- WRKFRAME CFORUM appended at 15:13:27 on 92/09/09 GMT (by RICHKULP at CARVM3) ..... WRKFRAME CFORUM modified at 00:41:21 on 92/09/10 GMT (by RICHKULP at CARVM3) Subject: Some Workframe WIBNI's Moved to appropriate forum. (C-SET/2). ----- WRKFRAME CFORUM appended at 15:42:31 on 92/09/09 GMT (by KWIS079 at OS2CUST) Subject: Compile for previous release? Does WF/2 have the ability to compile for a previous release (1.3) of OS/2. I am currently using MS C 6.0, but can no longer get additional copies. I would like to use WF/2, but my application must still support OS/2 1.3. PJC ----- WRKFRAME CFORUM appended at 15:47:19 on 92/09/09 GMT (by FRANCIS at TOROLAB6) Subject: Some Workframe WIBNI's Ref: Append at 15:13:27 on 92/09/09 GMT (by RICHKULP at CARVM3) From: Tim Francis -- WorkFrame/2 development Those are all IPMD (debugger) items. As IPMD is part of the C Set/2 product, please move your append to C-SET2 (C)FORUM. Thanks. -tim ----- WRKFRAME CFORUM appended at 15:48:38 on 92/09/09 GMT (by FRANCIS at TOROLAB6) Subject: Compile for previous release? Ref: Append at 15:42:31 on 92/09/09 GMT (by KWIS079 at OS2CUST) From: Tim Francis -- WorkFrame/2 development WorkFrame can execute any OS/2 command, including OS/2 v1 compilers, and even DOS compilers! -tim ----- WRKFRAME CFORUM appended at 19:13:24 on 92/09/09 GMT (by NAAO3IY at OS2CUST) Subject: Compile for previous release? Ref: Append at 15:42:31 on 92/09/09 GMT (by KWIS079 at OS2CUST) Heck, WorkFrame/2 probably supports M*cr*s*ft BASIC, but I don't think that's what you want to know. The C Set/2 compiler is strictly a 32-bit compiler, except for its ability to call out to 16-bit code. No, you cannot use it for OS/2 1.3. IBM's official solution, for what it's worth, is IBM C/2, which is essentially a rebranded MS C 5.1 (I believe there's a CSD to make it a little healthier). I believe you can install it into WF/2, and it's still for sale. John Kennedy -- Hoechst Celanese, Bridgewater, NJ ----- WRKFRAME CFORUM appended at 21:36:24 on 92/09/09 GMT (by NAAO3IY at OS2CUST) Subject: C Dev'Pers Wrkset/2 3.5" Well, I just got my C Dev'Pers Wrkset/2 3.5", and I'd like to thank IBM for the _personalized_ _letter_ congratulating me on my purchase of my C Dev'Pers Wrkset/2 3.5". Really, when you stop to think that only a few years ago, I wouldn't have been able to get a C Dev'Pers Wrkset/2 3.5", but would have had to settle for a C DEV'PERS WRKSET/360 2400', I suppose it's time to sit back and contemplate the wonderful times we're living in. John Kennedy -- Hoechst Celanese, Bridgewater, NJ ----- WRKFRAME CFORUM appended at 14:51:16 on 92/09/11 GMT (by TCSC086 at OS2CUST) Subject: ADDTOOL Ref: Append at 21:12:57 on 92/09/08 GMT (by FRANCIS at TOROLAB6) Tim, I did see and try this option. However, I >> DON'T << want the tools windows floating all over the desktop. I want them to stay confined within the Window borders of the FRAME. I think I may be a bit of a throwback in this desire. I actually LIKED the multiple document interface (MDI) spec and products. I strongly dislike DeskTrash...seeing other apps hovering behind my projects get a little disconcerting.<G> Dan Lundy Time Customer Service, Inc. Tampa, Fl ----- WRKFRAME CFORUM appended at 16:46:00 on 92/09/13 GMT (by NBBS976 at OS2CUST) Subject: Workframe Window disapears I just got my C developer's Workset/2 and installed it. That went great. However, several days later I went to use it and when I tried to bring it up (cliking on the icon, WF from OS/2 window, or WFENV from OS/2 window) after the LOGO screen, the 'WORKFRAME' window comes up, the other three windows come up, but then the WORKFRAME window closes, leaving the three child windows on the desktop! The only changes I were to install Manager Read/2 and the PMHPO I downloaded from here. What have I hosed up??? Lee O. Lovig - Principal Financial Group ----- WRKFRAME CFORUM appended at 22:24:55 on 92/09/14 GMT (by FRANCIS at TOROLAB6) Subject: Workframe Window disappears Ref: Append at 16:46:00 on 92/09/13 GMT (by NBBS976 at OS2CUST) From: Tim Francis -- WorkFrame/2 development That sounds like a known bug, caused by saving the window position when the frame has been maximized. Bring up WorkFrame as you normally would, then when the background disappears hit ALT-F6 to give focus to the frame, then ALT-F5 to restore the frame. Saving this window position will result in the maximized WorkFrame being presented in subsequent startups. -tim ----- WRKFRAME CFORUM appended at 23:14:16 on 92/09/14 GMT (by XXNOVA24 at TORVMCOP) Subject: Workframe Window disappears Ref: Append at 22:24:55 on 92/09/14 GMT (by FRANCIS at TOROLAB6) Tim, >>That sounds like a known bug, wouldn't be the time , to release and maintain a WF2 CSD ? Regards, Geza Szivos NOVACOR Chemicals (403)-290-6583 NHO-32 801-7th Ave Calgary, Alberta, CANADA T2P 2N6 ----- WRKFRAME CFORUM appended at 11:55:06 on 92/09/15 GMT (by NBBS976 at OS2CUST) Subject: Workframe Window disappears Ref: Append at 23:14:16 on 92/09/14 GMT (by XXNOVA24 at TORVMCOP) Thanx! What I did (while waiting for my append to mysteriously appear) was to close the project mindow, click the right button on the log window and select show. This got the workframe window back and after saving settings (by luck in the non-maximized window) everything seems to be working. Lee O. Lovig - Principal Financial Group ----- WRKFRAME CFORUM appended at 13:26:36 on 92/09/15 GMT (by FRANCIS at TOROLAB6) Subject: Workframe Window disappears Ref: Append at 23:14:16 on 92/09/14 GMT (by XXNOVA24 at TORVMCOP) From: Tim Francis -- WorkFrame/2 development Geza, the "saving position while maximized" problem is the only known bug in the WorkFrame base. Since there is such an easy work-around, it was decided not to ship a CSD for this problem (keep in mind every time we touch the code there is a chance of introducing new bugs). There is also one bug in the LIB utility, and a CSD for that was released last week. -tim ----- WRKFRAME CFORUM appended at 23:12:36 on 92/09/24 GMT (by IL22359 at OS2CUST) Subject: Workfreame & IPF Compiler (no text entered) Bob Nahrstadt, Spiegel, Inc. 708-986-8800 ----- WRKFRAME CFORUM appended at 23:15:39 on 92/09/24 GMT (by IL22359 at OS2CUST) Subject: Workframe & IPF Compiler We just installed the Workframe/2 on our PS/2 w/ OS/2 2.0. I used the toolkt20 .ini file to do an addtool to the workframe. Worked great. Now, however, I wa nt to be able to do an IPF compile to a *.inf file. From the command line, tha t is easy: IPFC filename /IPF (enter) And it just works. How do I add the /IPF parameter to the TOOLS / IPF Compile pull down menu item. Right now it compiles to the default *.hlp file type. Bob Nahrstadt, Spiegel, Inc. 708-986-8800 ----- WRKFRAME CFORUM appended at 00:10:44 on 92/09/25 GMT (by FRANCIS at TOROLAB6) Subject: Workframe & IPF Compiler Ref: Append at 23:15:39 on 92/09/24 GMT (by IL22359 at OS2CUST) From: Tim Francis -- WorkFrame/2 development Go to Configure->Tools, and select add. Enter the details about IPFC, and for the invocation string enter %f /INF. You will now be able to select a file, and start the IPFC compile from the tools pulldown. -tim ----- WRKFRAME CFORUM appended at 06:46:47 on 92/09/30 GMT (by DEV3543 at HONE83) Subject: Workframe & IPF Compiler Ref: Append at 00:10:44 on 92/09/25 GMT (by FRANCIS at TOROLAB6) I'm glad to see there is CSDs on the OS2BBS now, I'm going to download the CSD for the WorkFrame. Could someone list the updates in the CSD? Alan DuBoff - Bunker Hill Software ----- WRKFRAME CFORUM appended at 13:22:55 on 92/09/30 GMT (by FRANCIS at TOROLAB6) Subject: Workframe & IPF Compiler Ref: Append at 06:46:47 on 92/09/30 GMT (by DEV3543 at HONE83) From: Tim Francis -- WorkFrame/2 development The only fix in the CSD is for the LIB utility. There are no changes to the base WorkFrame. -tim ----- WRKFRAME CFORUM appended at 20:57:23 on 92/10/01 GMT (by SBRZAYD at HONE82) Subject: More Workframe requests Ref: Append at 14:36:13 on 92/09/09 GMT (by PNWB016 at HONE81) Tim Francis or other Workframe developers, I'm working on a book that will published in the December/January timeframe and my portion of it will focus heavily on Workframe and C Set. I'm interested in these "future" developments that you have alluded to and am wondering when they are due. Will my book make it out first? Also I'm interested in what changes have been made to Workframe (and C Set, actually) for the beta that appears on the PD CD_ROM. I haven't started digging around in it yet but I thought I could get a preview from you first. Chris Corry American Management Systems ----- WRKFRAME CFORUM appended at 23:24:46 on 92/10/01 GMT (by FRANCIS at TOROLAB6) Subject: More Workframe requests Ref: Append at 20:57:23 on 92/10/01 GMT (by SBRZAYD at HONE82) From: Tim Francis -- WorkFrame/2 development The version of WorkFrame on the PDK CD-ROM is more of an enhanced version 1 (for example, it combines SBCS and DBCS support, whereas the GA code was either SBCS _or_ DBCS). We are making major changes to the user interface for version 2, and the new code is just not stable enough for use (yet). When we were approached about the CD-ROM, the only thing we had to offer was the enhanced version 1. We will be making beta copies of version 2 available as soon as we can. As to your book, I'll have to check on a couple of details --like how much can I say and still expect to work here-- and get back to you. -tim (BTW, thanks for the interest!) ----- WRKFRAME CFORUM appended at 12:36:46 on 92/10/05 GMT (by TCSC086 at HONE81) Subject: Composite Projects I have only recently started to use composite projects. One small errata, the online help claims I can drag a project from the project list into the listbox of subprojects. I am not able to do this. Dan Lundy Time Customer Service Tampa Fl ----- WRKFRAME CFORUM appended at 13:54:17 on 92/10/05 GMT (by BIGBILL at TOROLAB6) Subject: Composite Projects Ref: Append at 12:36:46 on 92/10/05 GMT (by TCSC086 at HONE81) You can do that while creating the composite project, not at any other time. Is the help not in context? Bill Sarantakos OS/2 C++ Compiler Development Toronto, Ontario ----- WRKFRAME CFORUM appended at 16:25:24 on 92/10/05 GMT (by WZ00537 at OS2CUST) Subject: Workframe/C Set/2 Problems with new Beta of 2.0 Bill Zackst installed the development tools over the new OS/2 2.0 Beta (32Bit/W in 3.1). I cannot even compile the sample programs. When I compile Hello.c using the Workframe it seems to ignore my specification of a .DEF file and assumes I am preparing a VIO program. (It passes no .D file to the compiler). When I execute the command line without workframe it does compile, but the generated program fails on the first window registration call. Could there be a proble using the new Beta with the old tools? Would it help if I uploaded my .def file and command line for you all to look at? Any help would be appreciated. Bill Zack ----- WRKFRAME CFORUM appended at 18:22:04 on 92/10/05 GMT (by FRANCIS at TOROLAB6) Subject: Workframe/C Set/2 Problems with new Beta of 2.0 Ref: Append at 16:25:24 on 92/10/05 GMT (by WZ00537 at OS2CUST) From: Tim Francis -- WorkFrame/2 development I don't think we've tested WorkFrame with that beta yet -- something we're trying to rectify now. To help us track it down: Have you run WorkFrame under the GA OS/2? Did you have any trouble? Are the options when you execute under WorkFrame the same as when you run from the command line? (Shown at the top of the output monitor box when you compile) -tim ----- WRKFRAME CFORUM appended at 18:25:49 on 92/10/05 GMT (by FRANCIS at TOROLAB6) Subject: More Workframe requests Ref: Append at 20:57:23 on 92/10/01 GMT (by SBRZAYD at HONE82) From: Tim Francis -- WorkFrame/2 development I can't give you too many details on how WorkFrame will look, as some aspects are still being designed. However, WorkFrame is moving towards a WPS look and feel. If your book comes out in January, it will be out first. -tim ----- WRKFRAME CFORUM appended at 01:01:46 on 92/10/06 GMT (by SBRZAYD at HONE81) Subject: /c switch Ref: Append at 20:07:24 on 92/10/05 GMT (by MCCRADY at TOROLAB6) Maybe I'm missing something really obvious here but what dialog box will get me the /c switch? I definitely want a two phase build (compile multiple files and then link386 them) but I can't seem to figure how to get the /c into the makefile from the dialog boxes. Realizing that I'm doing something silly... Chris Corry American Management Systems ----- WRKFRAME CFORUM appended at 11:36:03 on 92/10/06 GMT (by REHANDEL at RALYDPD4) Subject: /c switch Ref: Append at 01:01:46 on 92/10/06 GMT (by SBRZAYD at HONE81) Chris, What I do to set up for a separate compile and link in WorkFrame is from the create or change project dialog: click on 'Compile options...' button, then in the next dialog to click on the 'Other options...' button, then in the next dialog click on the 'Perform compile only, no link' checkbox. Hope this is what you wanted. Rich Handel, 8-352-5644 or (919)-301-5644 Information Technology, 049/650, Raleigh, NC ----- WRKFRAME CFORUM appended at 13:25:44 on 92/10/06 GMT (by TCSC086 at HONE83) Subject: Composite Projects Ref: Append at 13:54:17 on 92/10/05 GMT (by BIGBILL at TOROLAB6) You are correct. I can drag and drop when creating the composite project! Once the project is created, saved, and reopened, and the subproj list displayed pressing F1 yields a Help panel entitled: Subproject List This list box shows you which subprojects you have chosen to be part of the composite project. Up to 500 items can be listed. You can drag a project from the Project Control window to this list box. In that sense, it is out of context since you can't do it then. I am pleased to know I can do it at project creation and change! The first time I used it I started grousing about the lack of a Listbox of projects. Drag and Drop is much better (apologies for all the complaining you DIDN'T hear!<G>). Dan Lundy Time Customer Service Tampa Fl ----- WRKFRAME CFORUM appended at 21:00:44 on 92/10/06 GMT (by RICHKULP at CARVM3) ..... WRKFRAME CFORUM modified at 22:23:12 on 92/10/06 GMT (by RICHKULP at CARVM3) Subject: -- Moved to correct place. ----- WRKFRAME CFORUM appended at 02:24:56 on 92/10/08 GMT (by WZ00537 at OS2CUST) Subject: Workframe/2 Problem with new Beta I restored my pure GA system. It did not make a difference. When I tried to use WF/2 it ignored the module definition file that I specified and told the linker that it was a VIO program with no definition file. the WF/2 problem separately. (If you want, I will post the messages generated by the WF/2 attempt. is there a cut and paste cpability on this BBS? After that, I tried the compile and linker stand alone. The options that I used were: icc /C /Q /Fl /Ls /Ti /Gs- /Kb hello.c link386 /CO /DE /BASE:65536 hello,,,,hello Should this work? If I can get going with the command line then I can persue the WF/2 problem. Bill Zack ----- WRKFRAME CFORUM appended at 03:34:54 on 92/10/08 GMT (by WZ00537 at OS2CUST) Subject: Workframe/C Set/2 poblems with new beta Disregaurd 1/2 of my previous messge. I finally smartened up and looked at the makefile for the sample program. Executing NMAKE rebuilt the program. I will study it and try to understand why it worked. As far as the Workframe problem, that is still a mystery to me. (Maby I will try NMAKE from the workframe instead of BUILD option. Thanks again for your help. Bill Zack ----- WRKFRAME CFORUM appended at 09:11:03 on 92/10/08 GMT (by DEV3543 at HONE82) Subject: Workframe and Zortech ? Ref: Append at 13:22:55 on 92/09/30 GMT (by FRANCIS at TOROLAB6) I heard that the Zortech C++ compiler (32 bit) is shipping. I was wondering if anyone can confirm this and most importantly if you can confirm, does it work with the WorkFrame. I'm waiting for the IBM C++ compiler but was curious about the Zortech. Did Zortech work with you guys on the WorkFrame support ? Very strange because a friend of mine got a flyer in the mail and said it stated it was shipping now and is the first shipping 32 bit C++ compiler for OS/2. And he could buy it I guess. Another friend of mine that uses Zortech all the time for 1.x work and Windows hasn't heard boop about the compiler, go figure... Alan DuBoff - Bunker Hill Software ----- WRKFRAME CFORUM appended at 13:26:49 on 92/10/08 GMT (by BIGBILL at TOROLAB6) Subject: Workframe and Zortech ? Ref: Append at 09:11:03 on 92/10/08 GMT (by DEV3543 at HONE82) I saw Zortech displaying their compiler DLL on the Software Developers Conference '92 in Boston last month. Although they are providing the compiler dialogs, I don't think they are doing the full support (make file creation, etc). Watcom did say they were implementing the rest of the support since users have been asking why they didn't. Bill Sarantakos OS/2 C++ Compiler Development Toronto, Ontario ----- WRKFRAME CFORUM appended at 19:50:12 on 92/10/08 GMT (by PMS7508 at MARTLINK) Subject: WorkFrame/2 and the Extended Services Database Manager I want to use the Extended Services Database Manager with WorkFrame/2. Specifically, I want to be able to have a file type of .SQC, and have the SQL preprocessor (SQLPREP) invoked to generate the .BND and .C files. I would like to be able to specify options for the SQL preprocessor, just like I can for the C Set/2 compiler. For example, database name, cursor stability, and isolation level. I would further like to have the same capabilities for the SQL bind postprocessor (SQLBIND). Are these features available in the PDK version of WorkFrame/2 (Beta), or perhaps planned for a later release of WorkFrame/2 ? I would find these capabilities very useful in meeting my product development goals. John Baker, Policy Management Systems Corporation ----- WRKFRAME CFORUM appended at 20:37:52 on 92/10/08 GMT (by XXNOVA24 at TORVMCOP) Subject: WorkFrame/2 and the Extended Services Database Manager Ref: Append at 19:50:12 on 92/10/08 GMT (by PMS7508 at MARTLINK) You can develop those screens and the example for this is in the \ibmwf\prj\sampdll . If you are real interested to write one,probably Tim Francis can give you additional documents. (or your SE can do it.) Geza Szivos NOVACOR Chemicals (403)-290-6583 Fax (403)-290-5900 NHO-32 801-7th Ave Calgary, Alberta, CANADA T2P 2N6 ----- WRKFRAME CFORUM appended at 00:11:43 on 92/10/09 GMT (by FRANCIS at TOROLAB6) Subject: WorkFrame/2 and the Extended Services Database Manager Ref: Append at 19:50:12 on 92/10/08 GMT (by PMS7508 at MARTLINK) From: Tim Francis -- WorkFrame/2 development Yes, support for all those features is planned for the next version of WorkFrame. Supplying the options dialog will remain the responsibility of the developers (ie the SQL developers for the SQL dialog, etc), but how WorkFrame uses those dialogs will be made considerably more flexible. Unfortunately, we're not ready for prime time yet. The version of WorkFrame on the current PDK is little more than an enhanced version 1. Don't be fooled by that though... I think you'll like what we have in the works. -tim ----- WRKFRAME CFORUM appended at 00:15:42 on 92/10/09 GMT (by FRANCIS at TOROLAB6) Subject: WorkFrame/2 and the Extended Services Database Manager Ref: Append at 20:37:52 on 92/10/08 GMT (by XXNOVA24 at TORVMCOP) From: Tim Francis -- WorkFrame/2 development The options dialogs _can_ be written by you, but it would be better for everyone concerned if you contacted the supplier of the application (including IBM -- it's a big company, and we're a small product) and requested that they enable their product for WorkFrame. (If anyone reading this wants to develop an options dialog for a product, append here, and we'll get in touch). -tim ----- WRKFRAME CFORUM appended at 05:51:55 on 92/10/09 GMT (by DEV3543 at HONE82) Subject: Workframe and Zortech ? Ref: Append at 13:26:49 on 92/10/08 GMT (by BIGBILL at TOROLAB6) =====> I saw Zortech displaying their compiler DLL on the Software Developers Conference '92 in Boston last month. Although they are providing the compiler dialogs, I don't think they are doing the full support (make file creation, etc). Watcom did say they were implementing the rest of the support since users have been asking why they didn't. <===== Good to hear about Watcom, I have not been hearing good things about the Zortech C++ compiler...not your fault of course. ajd Alan DuBoff - Bunker Hill Software ----- WRKFRAME CFORUM appended at 17:02:58 on 92/10/09 GMT (by XXNOVA24 at TORVMCOP) Subject: WorkFrame/2 and the Extended Services Database Manager Ref: Append at 00:15:42 on 92/10/09 GMT (by FRANCIS at TOROLAB6) Tim, Its a nice service, and a way to go! Geza Szivos NOVACOR Chemicals (403)-290-6583 Fax (403)-290-5900 NHO-32 801-7th Ave Calgary, Alberta, CANADA T2P 2N6 ----- WRKFRAME CFORUM appended at 03:56:35 on 92/10/10 GMT (by SBRZAYD at HONE81) Subject: /c switch Ref: Append at 11:36:03 on 92/10/06 GMT (by REHANDEL at RALYDPD4) Rich, This is one of the first things I tried but I would get a error because I had specified an EXE file under file management options. This EXE file, as I now realize, is not needed. Thanks for the help! Chris Corry American Management Systems ----- WRKFRAME CFORUM appended at 00:17:32 on 92/10/16 GMT (by NAAO3IY at HONE82) Subject: WorkFrame/2 no group Ref: Append at 00:15:42 on 92/10/09 GMT (by FRANCIS at TOROLAB6) I have installed WorkFrame/2 on two very different systems now, and cannot find the advertised WorkFrame/2 folder on the desktop. Running ADDUSER hasn't helped either. C Set/2 and the Toolkit had no problem installing their folders. What gives? What should be in that folder, anyway? John Kennedy, Hoechst Celanese (The OS/2 Hobbit) ----- WRKFRAME CFORUM appended at 12:34:53 on 92/10/19 GMT (by VELOCCI at TOROLAB2) Subject: External interest... Ref: None I'm trying to get a list of REAL customers (ie external, paying) of WF/2 release 1. Specifically those that have it and are USING it for a serious portion of there development. IF such a group of humans existed and IF there happened to be a new release of WF/2, such a group COULD provide valuable usability input. If anyone has contacts with any HYPOTHETICAL customers that might want to be involved in evaluating a hypothetical new product, please send a REAL note to my reader. All of this is, of course, completely hypo........ VVV ----- WRKFRAME CFORUM appended at 12:57:38 on 92/10/19 GMT (by DALNK03 at OS2CUST) Subject: WorkFrame/2 no group Ref: Append at 00:17:32 on 92/10/16 GMT (by NAAO3IY at HONE82) 2 items are added to the folder. 1) IBM WorkFrame/2 Path And Filename=C:\IBMWF\BIN\WF.EXE Working Directory=C:\IBMWF 2) IBM WorkFrame/2 Online Help Path And Filename=C:\OS2\VIEW.EXE Parameters=DDE3WF.INF Working Directory=C:\IBMWF\HELP Pat Malneritch, Delta Air Lines ----- WRKFRAME CFORUM appended at 21:26:15 on 92/10/19 GMT (by IL77582 at HONE86) Subject: External interest... Ref: Append at 12:34:53 on 92/10/19 GMT (by VELOCCI at TOROLAB2) We use Workframe/2 for development of 32 bit applications for corporate use. We would probably be willing to evaluate a hypothetical new product if it wasn't too unstable. Jim Rueschhoff - Packer Plastics, Inc. ----- WRKFRAME CFORUM appended at 21:34:26 on 92/10/19 GMT (by IL77582 at HONE86) Subject: External interest... Ref: Append at 12:34:53 on 92/10/19 GMT (by VELOCCI at TOROLAB2) We use Workframe/2 for development of 32 bit applications for corporate use. We would probably be willing to evaluate a hypothetical new product if it wasn't too unstable. Jim Rueschhoff - Packer Plastics, Inc. ----- WRKFRAME CFORUM appended at 23:11:54 on 92/10/19 GMT (by DEV3543 at HONE84) Subject: External interest... Ref: Append at 12:34:53 on 92/10/19 GMT (by VELOCCI at TOROLAB2) =====> If anyone has contacts with any HYPOTHETICAL customers that might want to be involved in evaluating a hypothetical new product, please send a REAL note to my reader. <===== I would be interested. I use the WorkFrame for development and I'm open to new ideas. I like the modular style of the WorkFrame and until I see something that is better I will plan on using it for my development platform. Alan DuBoff - Bunker Hill Software ----- WRKFRAME CFORUM appended at 18:10:30 on 92/10/20 GMT (by DALNK03 at OS2CUST) Subject: External interest... Ref: Append at 23:11:54 on 92/10/19 GMT (by DEV3543 at HONE84) =====> If anyone has contacts with any HYPOTHETICAL customers that might want to be involved in evaluating a hypothetical new product, please send a REAL note to my reader. <===== I would be interested also. We're still doing most of our development for OS/2 1.3 (waiting on the Service Pack) but I have been working with Workframe/2 as we plan for the eventual migration to 2.0. Pat Malneritch, Delta Air Lines ----- WRKFRAME CFORUM appended at 18:24:43 on 92/10/20 GMT (by PNWB016 at HONE83) Subject: External interest... Ref: Append at 12:34:53 on 92/10/19 GMT (by VELOCCI at TOROLAB2) We use the Workframe for ALL of our 32-bit OS/2 development. We would be VERY interested in examining a product that may or may not exist. <g> Wayne "I assure you I am real" Holmes U S WEST Communications ----- WRKFRAME CFORUM appended at 19:40:38 on 92/10/20 GMT (by IL41468 at HONE81) Subject: External interest... Ref: Append at 12:34:53 on 92/10/19 GMT (by VELOCCI at TOROLAB2) I am also using Workframe for all internal development and would be interested. J.M.Schaeffer ('John' AIMS Sandy, Utah) ----- WRKFRAME CFORUM appended at 21:39:38 on 92/10/20 GMT (by VELOCCI at TOROLAB2) Subject: External interest...Update Ref: Append at 12:34:53 on 92/10/19 GMT (by VELOCCI at TOROLAB2) Thanks for the response to date. In a few days I'll put together a list of those who have repsonded and send you all out a series of questions (between 5 and 10). Based on the responses, we'll agree on who is best suited for this hypothetical assessment. Thanks again, VVV ----- WRKFRAME CFORUM appended at 19:24:30 on 92/10/22 GMT (by IL48228 at HONE83) Subject: External interest... Ref: Append at 12:34:53 on 92/10/19 GMT (by VELOCCI at TOROLAB2) I currently use WorkFrame/2 and would be interested in evaluating any enhancements to it. Brian Davelaar, City of Tacoma ----- WRKFRAME CFORUM appended at 04:17:11 on 92/10/23 GMT (by DEV3963 at OS2CUST) Subject: Separate dir's for SRC & BIN's Does WF/2 provide an ezsy method for allowing separate subdirectories for sourc e and bin's within one project? Seems to me like this would be a pretty common thing to do, but I haven't found any references to it in the online doc's or he re or on IBMLink. If not I guess I have to do some fancy dancing in the make f ile... Chris Klann - BETA Systems Inc. ----- WRKFRAME CFORUM appended at 16:31:20 on 92/10/23 GMT (by NAAO3IY at HONE81) Subject: Separate dir's for SRC & BIN's Ref: Append at 04:17:11 on 92/10/23 GMT (by DEV3963 at OS2CUST) >Does WF/2 provide an ezsy method for allowing separate subdirectories for sourc è`ìC>e and bin's within one project? Seems to me like this would be a pretty common è`ìC Not today. Right now, all the stuff for a project has to be in a single directory. The next release, coming out in a not-too-distant timeframe, will have many extensions, and working on multiple directories will be one. John Kennedy, Hoechst Celanese (The OS/2 Hobbit) ----- WRKFRAME CFORUM appended at 18:25:27 on 92/10/23 GMT (by FRANCIS at TOROLAB6) Subject: Separate dir's for SRC & BIN's Ref: Append at 16:31:20 on 92/10/23 GMT (by NAAO3IY at HONE81) From: Tim Francis -- WorkFrame/2 development The next version will indeed support multiple directories, but not separated into source and binary directories -- all directories specified will be used. The basic tools used (such as the compiler) almost always place the output (object) files in the same directory as the source. WorkFrame has no control over that. If you separate your files, the next version will show them all in the same project (if that's what you want), but we have no plans to do the separating for you. I have never heard this request before, so I don't think it's _that_ popular. Does anyone else have this requirement? (Note: That's a different question than "would you use this feature"? The question is "will you be impacted if it's not included"?) -tim ----- WRKFRAME CFORUM appended at 19:18:28 on 92/10/23 GMT (by PMS7508 at MARTLINK) Subject: Separate dir's for SRC & BIN's Ref: Append at 18:25:27 on 92/10/23 GMT (by FRANCIS at TOROLAB6) Actually, separating the binaries and source is a very useful capability. Outside of WorkFrame/2, I structure my development libraries as follows: project-id\ Executables .EXE project-id\BOOK BookManager File(s) <<Future>> .BKS and .BOO project-id\DLL Dynamic Link Library(ies) .DLL project-id\HELP Help and VIEW File(s) .HLP and .INF project-id\INCLUDE Include File(s) .H project-id\LIB Object and Resource Library(ies) .DLG and .ICO and .RES .LIB and .OBJ project-id\SRC Program and Resource Source Code .C and .RC and .SQC It would be great if I could have the same flexibility and control from within the WorkFrame/2 environment. John Baker, Policy Management Systems Corporation ----- WRKFRAME CFORUM appended at 19:20:54 on 92/10/23 GMT (by DEV3963 at OS2CUST) Subject: Separate dir's for SRC & BIN's Ref: Append at 18:25:27 on 92/10/23 GMT (by FRANCIS at TOROLAB6) Ummm..."Would I be impacted if this feature was not included in future releases ..." No BUT, it would allow me to avoid the vagaries(sp?) and annoyances of learning the ins and outs of MAKE programming. Chris Klann - BETA Systems Inc. ----- WRKFRAME CFORUM appended at 22:01:01 on 92/10/26 GMT (by NAAO3IY at HONE83) Subject: Separate dir's for SRC & BIN's Ref: Append at 18:25:27 on 92/10/23 GMT (by FRANCIS at TOROLAB6) Someone at the NYC OS/2 Developer's Conference asked for a source-directory/object-directory orientation. Roger Pett said he hadn't heard of it before, but that it could be looked into. I would _not_ be particularly interested in it, myself. John Kennedy, Hoechst Celanese (The OS/2 Hobbit) ----- WRKFRAME CFORUM appended at 16:24:01 on 92/10/28 GMT (by SC036696 at AUSVM1) Subject: background window with command bar has disappeared The background window containing the command bar is no longer displayed. I am unable to perform any actions, such as a make. I have rebooted my machine, hoping it was a configuration problem, but the window still does not display. Can anyone help? Thanks. ----- WRKFRAME CFORUM appended at 18:22:07 on 92/10/28 GMT (by FRANCIS at TOROLAB6) Subject: background window with command bar has disappeared Ref: Append at 16:24:01 on 92/10/28 GMT (by SC036696 at AUSVM1) From: Tim Francis -- WorkFrame/2 development That sounds like a known bug, caused by saving the window position when the frame has been maximized. Bring up WorkFrame as you normally would, then when the background disappears hit ALT-F6 to give focus to the frame, then ALT-F5 to restore the frame. Saving this window position will result in the maximized WorkFrame being presented in subsequent startups. -tim ----- WRKFRAME CFORUM appended at 17:08:16 on 92/10/29 GMT (by SC036696 at AUSVM1) Subject: background window with command bar has disappeared Thank you very much. Worked great! I'm back to a known state . . .