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- From Star Fleet Command 21st Century
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- Memorandum for the record to physicists in 1993.
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- On the Super-Physics of Sub-Space Communication,
- Warp-Drive and Matter-Teleporters.
-
- Comments by Sarfatti enclosed by *...* - fantasize them as "telepatypes"
- received by Sarfatti's creative unconscious mind in 1993 from Star Fleet
- Command at the Presidio in San Francisco from not too far in our future.
-
- >You wrote about how subspace communications travel faster than light.
-
- * Do you mean "subspace communications travel faster than light" or
- "subspace communications, travel (faster than light)". That is, we must
- distinguish between subspace communication faster than light and travel
- faster than light.
-
- I will take the terms "subspace communication" and "quantum connection
- communication" as meaning the same. In subspace communication information
- (bits) is transferred "pre-metrically" across arbitrary spacetime intervals
- between sender and receiver with no corresponding "travel" in the sense of
- intermediary mass-energy.
-
- Faster than light transport of mass-energy, not to be confused with
- subspace communication can be of two kinds.
-
- One is globally faster than light but locally slower than light (e.g.,
- "Warp-drive" passage of a star ship in real time through a traversable worm
- hole supported by exotic matter in imaginary time). The warp drive of the
- U.S.S. Enterprise works by amplifying a quantum wormhole that surrounds the
- ship.
-
- The other mode of superluminal matter-transport teleportation of the "Beam
- me up, Scotty!" variety is both globally and locally faster than light
- either in real time (Lorentzian metric) or imaginary time (Euclidean metric
- in Hawking's models of quantum gravity - idea is that the shadow universe
- is in imaginary time. At least 90 % of total universe's mass is shadow
- matter in imaginary time left over from the quantum gravity era in the
- first 10^-43 seconds.)
-
- The trick of "transporter" supertechnology is a phase transition from the
- subluminal in real time to the transluminal in imaginary time and back
- again preserving the informational patterns of quantum connectivity that
- control the organization and function of matter including that of living
- conscious matter.*
-
- >I thought you might want to read a full blown analysis of the problems
- with faster than light travel.
-
- Note: this was written for the alt.arts.startrek.tech newsgroup.
-
- *I have not been able to access that conference. What is the exact title?*
-
- This article:
- What is it about, and who should read it:
- This is a detailed explanation about how relativity and that
- wonderful science fictional invention of faster than light travel do not
- seem to get along with each other.
-
- *What do you mean by relativity? Relativity naturally divides into two
- independent pieces: 1) the symmetry group structure (e.g. Lorentz ((local
- light cones)) and translation groups for special relativity; Lorentz
- tangent spacetime and diffeomorphism ((curved global spacetime)) groups for
- classical general relativity) and 2) the retarded causality postulate that
- causes are before effects in a frame-invariant sense. In field theory this
- means that field operators across spacelike intervals (outside light cone)
- commute leading to dispersion relations on scattering amplitudes - which
- are violated in gamma-proton data according to Chas Bennett of Lawrence
- Livermore in Phys. Rev A.).
-
- The precise statement is that relativistic symmetry plus the principle of
- retarded causality is incompatible with faster than light travel. I have no
- argument with that. My claim is that relativistic symmetry is right for
- classical spacetime geometry but retarded causality both mcro and macro is
- wrong (incompatible with observations and experiments both present actual
- and future). Indeed, the standard propagators of quantum electrodynamics
- incolve both advanced and retarded causality although the propagator of a
- massive subluminal particle decays exponentially on scale of Compton
- wavelength outside the light cone while oscillating inside the light cone.
- Note that in the limit of zero frame-invariant mass the Compton wavelength
- is infinite - so what about the Feynman photon propagator in which virtual
- spacelike photons of longitudinal and timelike polarization unite to create
- the spacelike action of the electrical Coulomb force which is instantaneous
- in the rest frame of the source charge and is spacelike in any frame in
- which the charge is moving at uniform speed.*
-
- >It begins with a simple introduction to the ideas of relativity. This
- section includes some important information on space-time diagrams, so if
- you are not familiar with them, I suggest you read it. Then I get into the
- problems that relativity poses for faster than light travel. If you think
- that there are many science fictional ways that we can get around these
- problems, then you probably do not understand the "second problem" (which I
- discuss in the third section) and I strongly recommend that you read it to
- educate yourself. Finally, I introduce my idea (the only one I know of)
- that, if nothing else, gets around this second problem in an interesting
- way.
-
- *You greatly under-estimate me. I feel like Cyrano De Bergerac in the duel
- with the upstart who told him that his nose was too big!*
-
- >The best way to read the article may be to make a hard copy. I
- refer back a few times to a Diagram in the first section, and to have it
- readily available would be nice.
-
- *How condescending of you! But you do it so politely and elegantly that I
- am amused. You would be a good kindergarten teacher - such patience is to
- be admired. I think your exposition is basically useful for trekkies and
- other sci fi addicts. That is why I include it here to post to other places
- where it may be of educational value to the under-educated masses yearning
- to know the secrets of time and existence.*
-
- >I hope you can learn a little something from reading this, or at
- least strengthen your understanding of that which you already know.
- Your comments and criticisms are welcome, especially if they indicate
- improvements that can be made for future posts.
- And now, without further delay, here it is.
-
- *Thank you, I, too, hope you learn something from my comments.*
-
- A summary of conventional 2Oth Century spacetime Physics before the
- breaking of the light barrier by Star Fleet Command.
-
-
- > Relativity and FTL Travel
-
- >Outline:
-
- I. An Introduction to Special Relativity
- A. Reasoning for its existence
- B. Time dilation effects
- C. Other effects on observers
- E. Space-Time Diagrams
- D. Experimental support for the theory
- II. The First Problem: The Light Speed Barrier
- A. Effects as one approaches the speed of light
- B. Conceptual ideas around this problem
- III. The Second Problem: FTL Implies The Violation of Causality
- A. What is meant here by causality, and its importance
- B. Why FTL travel of any kind implies violation of causality
- C. A scenario as "proof"
- IV. A Way Around the Second Problem
- A. Warped space as a special frame of reference
- B. How this solves the causality problem
- C. The relativity problem this produces
- D. One way around that relativity problem
- V. Conclusion.
-
- to be continued.
-
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- From: sarfatti@well.sf.ca.us (Jack Sarfatti)
- Subject: Star Fleet Command Physics Notes 2
- Message-ID: <C1EDyI.8A5@well.sf.ca.us>
- Sender: news@well.sf.ca.us
- Organization: Whole Earth 'Lectronic Link
- Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 06:56:42 GMT
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-
- Part 2 The Hinson Notes on coventional relativity with Sarfatti Commentary
- on superluminal and transluminal matter causality-violating kinematics.
-
- > Relativity and FTL Travel
-
- >Outline:
-
- I. An Introduction to Special Relativity
- A. Reasoning for its existence
- B. Time dilation effects
- C. Other effects on observers
- E. Space-Time Diagrams
- D. Experimental support for the theory
- II. The First Problem: The Light Speed Barrier
- A. Effects as one approaches the speed of light
- B. Conceptual ideas around this problem
- III. The Second Problem: FTL Implies The Violation of Causality
- A. What is meant here by causality, and its importance
- B. Why FTL travel of any kind implies violation of causality
- C. A scenario as "proof"
- IV. A Way Around the Second Problem
- A. Warped space as a special frame of reference
- B. How this solves the causality problem
- C. The relativity problem this produces
- D. One way around that relativity problem
- V. Conclusion.
-
- >I. An Introduction to Special Relativity
- The main goal of this introduction is to make relativity and its
- consequences feasible to those who have not seen them before. It should
- also reinforce such ideas for those who are already somewhat familiar
- with them. This introduction will not completely follow the traditional
- way in which relativity came about. It will begin with a pre-Einstein
- view of relativity. It will then give some reasoning for why Einstein's
- view is plausible. This will lead to a discussion of some of the
- consequences this theory has, odd as they may seem. For future
- reference, it will also introduce the reader to the basics of space-time
- diagrams. Finally, I want to mention some experimental evidence that
- supports the theory.
-
- >The idea of relativity was around in Newton's day, but it was
- incomplete. It involved transforming from one frame of reference to
- another frame which is moving with respect to the first. The
- transformation was not completely correct, but it seemed so in the realm
- of small speeds. I give here an example of this to make it clear.
-
- >Consider two observers, you and me, for example. Lets say I am
- on a train which passes you at 30 miles per hour. I through a ball in
- the direction the train is moving, and the ball moves at 10 mph in MY
- point of view. Now consider a mark on the train tracks. You see the
- ball initially moving along at the same speed I am moving (the speed of
- the train). Then I through the ball, and before I can reach the mark on
- the track, the ball is able to reach it. So to you, the ball is moving
- even faster than I (and the train). Obviously, it seems as if the speed
- of the ball with respect to you is just the speed of the ball with
- respect to me plus the speed of me with respect to you. So, the speed
- of the ball with respect to you = 10 mph + 30 mph = 40 mph. This was
- the first, simple idea for transforming velocities from one frame of
- reference to another. In other words, this was part of the first concept
- of relativity.
-
- >Now I introduce you to an important postulate that leads to the
- concept of relativity that we have today. I believe it will seem quite
- reasonable. I state it as it appears in a physics book by Serway: "the
- laws of physics are the same in every inertial frame of reference."
- What it means is that if you observer any physical laws for a given
- situation in your frame of reference, then an observer in a reference
- frame moving with a constant velocity with respect to you should also
- agree that those physical laws apply to that situation.
-
- >As an example, consider the conservation of momentum. Say that
- there are two balls coming straight at one another. They collide and go
- off in opposite directions. Conservation of momentum says that if you
- add up the total momentum (mass times velocity) before the collision and
- after the collision, that the two should be identical. Now, let this
- experiment be preformed on a train where the balls are moving along the
- line of the train's motion. An outside observer would say that the
- initial and final velocities of the balls are one thing, while an
- observer on the train would say they were something different. However,
- BOTH observers must agree that the total momentum is the same before and
- after the collision. We should be able to apply this to any physical
- law. If not, (i.e. if physical laws were different for different
- frames of reference) then we could change the laws of physics just by
- traveling in a particular reference frame.
-
- >A very interesting result occurs when you apply this postulate
- to the laws of electrodynamics. What one finds is that in order for the
- laws of electrodynamics to be the same in all inertial reference frames,
- it must be true that the speed of electromagnetic waves (such as light)
- is the same for all inertial observers. Simply stating that may not
- make you think that there is anything that interesting about it, but it
- has amazing consequences. Consider letting a beam of light take the
- place of the ball in the first example given in this introduction. If
- the train is moving at half the velocity of light, wouldn't you expect
- the light beam (which is traveling at the speed of light with respect to
- the train) to look as if it is traveling one and a half that speed with
- respect to an outside observer? Well this is not the case. The old
- ideas of relativity in Newton's day do not apply here. What accounts
- for this peculiarity is time dilation and length contraction.
-
- >Here I give an example of how time dilation can help explain a
- peculiarity that arises from the above concept. Again we consider a
- train, but let's give it a speed of 0.6 c (where c = the speed of light
- which is 3E8 m/s). An occupant of this train shines a beam of light so
- that (to him) the beam goes straight up, hits a mirror at the top of the
- train, and bounces back to the floor of the train where it is detected.
- Now, in my point of view (outside of the train), that beam of light does
- not travel straight up and straight down, but makes an up-side-down "V"
- shape since the train is also moving. Here is a diagram of what I see:
-
-
- /|\
- / | \
- / | \
- light beam going up->/ | \<-light beam on return trip
- / | \
- / | \
- / | \
- / | \
- ---------|---------->trains motion (v = 0.6 c)
-
- >Lets say that the trip up takes 10 seconds in my point of view. The
- distance the train travels during that time is:
- (0.6 * 3E8 m/s) * 10 s = 18E8 m.
- The distance that the beam travels on the way up (the slanted line to
- the left) must be
- 3E8 m/s * 10s = 30E8 m.
- Since the left side of the above figure is a right triangle, and we know
- the length of two of the sides, we can now solve for the height of the
- train:
- Height = [(30E8 m)^2 - (18E8 m)^2]^0.5 = 24E8 m
- (It is a tall train, but this IS just a thought experiment). Now we
- consider the frame of reference of the traveler. The light MUST travel
- at 3E8 m/s for him also, and the height of the train doesn't change
- because only lengths in the direction of motion are contracted.
- Therefore, in his frame the light will reach the top of the train in
- 24E8 m /3E8 (m/s) = 8 seconds, and there you have it. To me the event
- takes 10 seconds, while according to him it must take only 8 seconds. We
- each measure time in different ways.
-
- >To intensify this oddity, consider the fact that all inertial
- frames are equivalent. That is, from the traveler's point of view he is
- the one who is sitting still, while I zip past him at 0.6 c. So he will
- think that it is MY clock that is running slowly. This lends itself
- over to what seem to be paradoxes which I will not get into here. If
- you have any questions on such things (such as the "twin paradox" --
- which can be understood with special relativity, by the way) feel free
- to ask me about them, and I will do the best I can to answer you.
-
- >As I mentioned above, length contraction is another consequence
- of relativity. Consider the same two travelers in our previous example,
- and let each of them hold a meter stick horizontally (so that the length
- of the stick is oriented in the direction of motion of the train). To
- the outside observer, the meter stick of the traveler on the train will
- look as if it is shorter than a meter. Similarly, the observer on the
- train will think that the meter stick of the outside observer is the one
- that is contracted. The closer one gets to the speed of light with
- respect to an observer, the shorter the stick will look to that
- observer. The factor which determines the amount of length contraction
- and time dilation is called gamma.
-
- >Gamma is defined as (1 - v^2/c^2)^(-1/2). For our train (for
- which v = 0.6 c), gamma is 1.25. Lengths will be contracted and time
- dilated (as seen by the outside observer) by a factor of 1/gamma = 0.8,
- which is what we demonstrated with the difference in measured time (8
- seconds compared to 10 seconds). Gamma is obviously an important number
- in relativity, and it will appear as we discuss other consequences of
- the theory.
-
- >Another consequence of relativity is a relationship between
- mass, energy, and momentum. By considering conservation of momentum and
- energy as viewed from two frames of reference, one can find that the
- following relationship must be true for an unbound particle:
- E^2 = p^2 * c^2 + m^2 * c^4
- Where E is energy, m is mass, and p is relativistic momentum which is
- defined as
- p = gamma * m * v (gamma is defined above)
- By manipulating the above equations, one can find another way to express
- the total energy as
- E = gamma * m * c^2
- Even when an object is at rest (gamma = 1) it still has an energy of
- E = m * c^2
- Many of you have seen something like this stated in context with the
- theory of relativity
-
-
- * E^2 = p^2 * c^2 + m^2 * c^4
-
- is the "mass shell" equation for slower-than-light (i.e., subluminal) real
- particles that can be directly detected. It is a pole in the complex energy
- plane for the particle propagator in relativistic quantum field theory.
-
- Virtual particles are "off mass shell" and do not obey this equation in
- conventional theory. Virtual particles are that part of the propagator not
- due to the energy pole. The propagator is not only determined by the
- position of the poles. It is also determined by the path or contour over
- which the integral representing the propagator is computed. This is a
- boundary condition and this is where causality makes its mark. The
- principle of retarded causality (i.e. causes always before effects) is
- defined by a certain path in the complex energy plane. It is, however, not
- the path that Feynman uses in conventional quantum electrodynamics. Feynman
- finds that in order to renormalize properly, to get finite answers, one
- must use a contour that includes both retarded causality (i.e., past
- cause/future effect) and "teleological" advanced causality (i.e., future
- cause/past effect).
-
- Faster-than-light (i.e. superluminal) particles (i.e. tachyons) moving in
- real time (Lorentzian signature +++-) obey a different mass shell equation
-
- E^2 = p^2 * c^2 - m^2 * c^4
-
- Propagation require E and p real means that p > mc. The De-Broglie
- probability waves of length h/p are shorter than the Compton wavelength
- h/mc. The tachyon wave fronts move at v(wave) slower than light but the
- mass-energy transport wave packet velocity v(particle) is faster than
- light. This is just the opposite of an ordinary particle in which the wave
- front moves faster than light but the mass-energy transport group speed is
- slower than light. For both kinds of particles
-
- v(wave) v(particle) = c^2
-
- For an ordinary subluminal particle, increasing the energy E makes
- v(particle) increase. In contrast, for a superluminal particle, increasing
- E makes v(particle) decrease - like a smoke vortex ring or a "roton"
- excitation in superfluid helium. Indeed, faster than light particles are
- more string-like than point-like.
-
- The gamma factor for the faster than light particle is
-
- (v^2/c^2 - 1)^(-1/2) with v = v(particle) so v/c > 1.
-
- Superluminal particles grossly violate "causality" on the macroscopic scale
- in Hinson's sense by which I mean "retarded causality". The question is do
- they violate it in a consistent way or an inconsistent way? I suspect the
- former is the case. If the latter is the case, then they cannot exist.
-
- The string-like subnucleonic structure may mean that quarks are self-
- trapped superluminal (or maybe transluminal) particles. This would
- automatically explain the origin of the strong color force because color
- was introduced to have the correct spin-statistics connection and
- superluminal particles have the wrong spin-statistics connection (e.g. a
- superluminal particle of spin 1/2 is a boson not a fermion.
-
- Superluminal electrons or quarks in the free state would quickly radiate
- photons in a Cerenkov cone speeding up to infinite speed at zero total
- energy E but finite momentum p. This would explain why free quarks are not
- seen. Condensed superluminal matter, if it could exist, would not obey the
- Pauli exclusion principle and would not have the diverse and stable
- organization of ordinary subluminal matter. Bound superluminal particles
- constrained by a "bag" or by a force that increased with separation might
- look like ordinary matter to an outside observer).
-
- The ordinary subluminal Lorentz frame transformations describe both
- subluminal and superluminal particle motions equally well and consistently.
- Subluminal particles have a rest frame, superluminal particles do not. The
- rest frame for a subluminal particle is defined by the particle's gamma =
- E/mc^2 = 1 which means v(particle) = 0, E = mc^2, and p = 0. Similarly,
- the faster than light particle obeys the same equation for gamma. Now if
- gamma = 1, v = sqrt2c. If v > sqrt2c , gamma is less than 1. In this region
- we have string-like length expansion in the direction of motion and time
- contraction. If, on the other hand,c < v < sqrt2c gamma is bigger than 1
- like ordinary slower than light particles with length contraction and time
- dilation.
-
- The mass shell equation for transluminal particles moving in imaginary time
- of quantum-gravity's Euclidean signature (++++) is
-
- E^2 = -p^2 * c^2 + m^2 * c^4
-
- E and p real require p < mc which is the long wave limit which would be
- most relevant to observational test. A transluminal particle moving locally
- according to a Euclidean rather than Lorentzian metric signature would look
- to our real time detectors like a new kind of particle with peculiar "dark
- matter" kinematics and dynamics.
-
- with gamma = (1 + v^2/c^2)^(-1/2) < 1 for all v.
-
- Both the subluminal and superluminal particles in real time obey the
- Einstein speed of light barrier. They are on opposite sides of the barrier.
- Not so for transluminal particles which do not feel the barrier at all
- since they are in a topologically distinct parallel universe connected to
- ours by photons if we make the ansatz that a charged accelerating
- transluminal particle emits photons in real time. But this may not be
- correct. The question is neutral transluminal matter gravitate? How will
- curvature in the Euclidean metric influence curvature in the Lorentz metric
- to which it is connected by a Wick rotation. Will this explain the large
- scale structure of the universe with its walls and voids?
-
- Has Star Trek Command succeeded in converting among the subluminal,
- superluminal and transluminal phases of matter at will? Note that a Star
- Ship built of ordinary subluminal matter with subluminal life forms could
- use a subluminal <---> transluminal matter converter to do two things.
- First, transluminal matter ejected in a rocket exhaust at superluminal
- speeds would be ultr-energy efficient enabling very heavy super-carrier
- size craft to get close to the Einstein light barrier with small amounts of
- fuel. Second, The transluminal matter is the exotic matter needed to
- support stable traversable wormholes amplified out of the quantum foam for
- warp drive.*
-
- to be continued.
-
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- From: sarfatti@well.sf.ca.us (Jack Sarfatti)
- Subject: Star Fleet Physics 3
- Message-ID: <C1ED89.7z3@well.sf.ca.us>
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-
- Part 3
- Review of Part 2 basics:
- >Gamma is defined as (1 - v^2/c^2)^(-1/2). For our train (for
- which v = 0.6 c), gamma is 1.25. Lengths will be contracted and time
- dilated (as seen by the outside observer) by a factor of 1/gamma = 0.8,
- which is what we demonstrated with the difference in measured time (8
- seconds compared to 10 seconds). Gamma is obviously an important number
- in relativity, and it will appear as we discuss other consequences of
- the theory.
-
- >Another consequence of relativity is a relationship between
- mass, energy, and momentum. By considering conservation of momentum and
- energy as viewed from two frames of reference, one can find that the
- following relationship must be true for an unbound particle:
- E^2 = p^2 * c^2 + m^2 * c^4
- Where E is energy, m is mass, and p is relativistic momentum which is
- defined as
- p = gamma * m * v (gamma is defined above)
- By manipulating the above equations, one can find another way to express
- the total energy as
- E = gamma * m * c^2
- Even when an object is at rest (gamma = 1) it still has an energy of
- E = m * c^2
- >Many of you have seen something like this stated in context with the
- theory of relativity
-
- Hinson continues: (Comments by Sarfatti ((Rashi II?)) between *...*)
-
- >It is important to note that the mass in the above equations has
- a special definition which we will now discuss. As a traveler approaches
- the speed of light with respect to an observer, the observer sees the
- mass of the traveler increase. (By mass, we mean the property that
- indicates (1) how much force is needed to create a certain acceleration
- and (2) how much gravitational pull you will feel from that object).
- However, the mass in the above equations is defined as the mass measured
- in the rest frame of the object. That mass is always the same. The
- mass seen by the observer (which I will call the observed mass) is given
- by gamma * m. Thus, we could also write the total energy as
- E = (observed mass) * c^2
- That observed mass approaches infinity as the object approaches the
- speed of light with respect to the observer.
-
- *This same equation is true for the superluminal particle in real time with
- a different gamma = 1/(v^2/c^2 - 1)^1/2 for v/c > 1 and v = v(particle) =
- c^2/v(wave). The equation is also true for a transluminal particle in
- imaginary time with gamma = 1/(v^2/c^2 + 1)^1/2 for 0<=v/c <= infinity.
- Note v/c = 1 is allowed in imaginary time. There is no light cone barrier
- in imaginary time. Hawking mentions this in his book, A Brief History of
- Time. The idea is that any elementary massive particle (quark, lepton, W,Z,
- X mesons) of frame-invariant mass m can exist in three phases, subluminal,
- superluminal and transluminal. Only the subluminal obeys causality in the
- sense of vanishing quantum field commutators across spacelike intervals.
- Only the subluminal obeys the familiar spin-statistics connection in which
- spin 0,1,2 are bosons (coherent superfluid condensates) and spin 1/2,3/2
- are fermions (Pauli exclusion). The field commutators for superluminal and
- transluminal phases form the "exotic" and cosmological "dark matter" that
- support the traversable worm holes for Star Ship "warp drive" and the
- highly efficient fuel for "impulse power" allowing subluminal travel near
- the Einstein barrier relative to the global frame of the "Hubble flow" of
- the expanding universe in which the cosmic blackbody radiation is
- isotropic. Note, that the local speed of the star ship through the worm
- hole is subluminal. The effective global speed is superluminal because the
- worm hole provides an extra-dimensional short cut connecting widely
- separated space-time regions.*
-