MINUTES OF MAY 1992 MEETING¢===========================¢¢NEW MEMBERS:¢¢ ELLEN LENTZ, from OHIO, became a¢member of the OL' HACKERS. ELLEN is a¢regular contributing author to ATARI¢INTERFACE MAGAZINE and she writes¢articles on the 8-Bit computer. Her¢husband TED is also an avid 8 Bit¢user. ELLEN and TED live in Ohio. We¢hope to hear a lot from ELLEN.¢ LOUIS DE ANGELIS joined our club.¢LOUIS brought his 8-Bit equipment to¢the club to be tested. It worked fine!¢We have 4 NEW MEMBERS (thats right¢FOUR) from ENGLAND. They are J. A.¢CLARK, D. EWENS, J. MATTHENSON and D.¢NEWMAN. They all are avid 8-Bitters,¢who aso belong to a club in ENGLAND!¢ Welcome everyone to the OL'¢HACKERS ATARI USERS GROUP, Inc.. May I¢say that you made a wise choice. ¢¢TREASURERS REPORT:¢¢ We are in the black and doing¢O.K., thanks to th sale of 2 disk¢"DISK MANAGEMENT SYSTEM ($6.00)", and¢3 disk "TURBOBASIC PROGRAMMING KIT¢($7.00)".¢¢CORRESPONDENCE:¢¢ ALEX read a letter that he mails¢out to everyone who orders a disk from¢our library. In it he invites the¢person to join our club. He enumerates¢the benefits they will reveive by¢belonging to our club.¢ ALEX read a letter from COWGATE,¢NEWCASTLE-ON-TYNE in ENGLAND. Thia was¢from the four members who joined our¢club from England. See NEW MEMBERS¢above. They sent us a printout of¢their software list. They also sent us¢8 double sided disks from England as a¢gift to the club. Thanks fellows, its¢obvious that you are real OL' HACKERS¢already.¢ ALEX read a letter from ELLEN¢LENTZ. In it she complimented our¢newsletter. She tells us that she¢really enjoys writing articles for the¢8-Bit computer. ELLEN writes that she¢wants to start a new feature of "ODDS¢and ENDS" and would appreciate any¢kind of help from our members. She¢wants favorite programs or new things¢that clubs are doing etc. ELLEN writes¢that she just finished writing a¢review of the PROGRAMMING KIT. It¢should come out soon in A.I.M.¢magazine. RON proposed that ELLEN¢become a 1992 HONORARY MEMBER of the¢club in recognition of all the work¢she has done for the 8-Bit community.¢ALLAN SHARKIS seconded the motion. She¢was admitted by a unanimous vote.¢ A letter from RICHARD REASER JR.¢8 Bit editor of CURRENT NOTES. He¢ordered the "DISK MANAGEMENT SYSTEM."¢One of his staff writers is writing a¢review of all the disk cataloging¢systems for the 8-Bit computer. He¢also asked about our club and any¢information we have that he can use in¢the magazine. ALEX replied by sending¢him a history of the club and some¢materials that he can use in his¢article.¢ A letter from DUG FINCH from¢Connecticut. He advised that there¢will be a CONNECTICUT ATARI FEST at¢the SHERATON HOTEL near HARTFORD on¢August 15 and 16.¢ A letter from LARRY TISCHBEIN our¢member from QUAKERTOWN, PA. He thanked¢ALEX for the 2 disks he received. He¢especially liked the PSLABEL7 program.¢He wanted to know how we did at the¢TRENTON COMPUTER FAIR. ALEX replied,¢and told him that 4 members went and¢all bought equipment, i.e. computers,¢printers, etc. making for a succesful¢foray. ALEX said he would love to get¢LARRY's articles as an out-of-town¢member for our newsletter. ¢ JACG made our MARCH/APRIL¢NEWSLETTER DISK their DISK OF THE¢MONTH. They especially liked ALAN¢SHARKIS column of ATARI 8-BIT¢NEWSLETTER REVIEWS. (Its loaded.)¢ A letter from ROWLAND GRANT¢secretary of the GARDEN CITY ACE in¢VICTORIA, CANADA he writes that they¢are writing more 8-Bit articles for¢their newsletter XIO 3 and for PSAN.¢PSAN is back in business again. He¢will send us the articles for our¢NEWSLETTER.¢ A long letter from our member TOM¢ANDREWS from SYRACUSE. TOM took our¢newsletter and arc'd it and put it on¢the SYRACUSE BBS. He received a lot of¢responses to our newsletter.¢ JIM CUTLER our member from¢England writes us about the 4 new¢members that are joining us from¢NEWCASTLE England, and sent us 4¢disks. THANKS JIM!¢ From the POKEY NEWSLETTER in¢Rochester N.Y. They thanked us for the¢newsletter format and the idea to put¢their newsletter on a disk. ALAN¢SHARKIS said their newsletter is very¢nice and the graphics are great. An¢excellent newsletter. JOHN KASUPSKI is¢responsible for the high quality of¢each newsletter. Good work, JOHN. They¢welcomed a new member HADJILA¢NASSERDINE from Algeria. He was an¢OL'HACKER last year. He also seems to¢have become a member of (FR)ANTIC, in¢TEXAS. My, he really gets around,¢doesnt he?¢ ALEX commented about the great¢support he gets from every member of¢our group. Everyone is involved and¢that is the reason our club is the¢greatest. ALEX said this club started¢on TWO premise's---The first is that¢we would help each other. We all have¢each others number. If one member does¢not know the answer somebody else may¢know it. Every member is willing and¢does help. The second premise is that¢we would not make money at a members¢expense but still make money for the¢club. An example of this program is¢our DISKO PARTY where YOU bring in 5¢blank disks, and then YOU can copy 5¢double sided disk for 5 bucks. If you¢are a corresponding member, the deal¢for you is we supply the 5 disks and¢copy it for you and mail it for¢$8.00.¢¢PICNIC:¢¢ STAN SCHENFELD the Picnic¢Chairman suggested that we might¢consider going to CAFE 20 for a¢dinner, which was so successful in¢February, instead of the picnic. It¢seems BRADY PARK is booked for the¢whole year. There will be further¢discussions at the next meeting. The¢tentative date is July 18, 1992.¢¢ ALAN SHARKIS showed us a banner¢he made with PRINT POWER. PRINT POWER¢is a great program to make cards,¢banners and signs. He had some great¢ICONS on the banner.¢¢BBS:¢¢ ALAN urged each member to go on¢the NEW NEST BBS (516 234-4943) at¢least once a week to find out what is¢new. ALAN said there are 8 disks with¢ICONS for PRINT POWER. They are rare¢items and you can get them from the¢BBS. On each disk there are about 60¢icons. JIM HARRIS the SYSOP is always¢willing to give you any help that you¢need. ALAN was even willing to come to¢a members house and show how to use¢the modem if you want him to.¢ ALLEN ATKINS volunteered to print¢out his notes of the meeting he¢attended at LONG ISLAND ATARI USERS¢GROUP, when they had their BBS demo.¢ALLAN said his notes are very¢complete. He will distribute them to¢the members.¢ ALAN SHARKIS then made a motion¢that we contribute $10.00 a month for¢the time being toward the cost of¢running the BBS, to be reviewed in 3¢months time. The motion was carried.¢The treasurer was instructed to mail a¢check for $30. to JIM HARRIS, our¢member and the SYSOP of the NEW NEST.¢ JACK GEDALIUS suggested that on¢the telephone list we put down the¢spouse's name so we know to whom we¢are talking when we call a member, and¢the spouse answers!¢¢DOOR PRIZES:¢¢LOUIS DE ANGELIS (Once again a new¢member wins on first visit.)¢BOB ULSCHMID¢STAN SCHENFELD¢AL ATKINS¢JOE LEBER¢JACK GEDALIUS¢¢ Looks like HARRY TUTHILLs luck ran¢out cause hedidnt win a door prize at¢this drawing, but after showing us a¢"WELCOME LOU" fancy title on screen,¢ALEX quietly reran "DOOR PRIZE".., and¢yes, HARRYs number came right up first¢and he won the last door prize!¢So he got his door prize after all!¢¢DEMO's:¢¢ RON FETZER demonstrated a German¢Program called DESIGN MASTER. The¢program DID NOT COME WITH ANY¢DOCUMENTATION and it is in German.¢Since RON reads German he wrote a¢whole double sided disk on DESIGN¢MASTER documentation. DESIGN MASTER is¢not a P.D. program. It is NOT the¢usual drawing program but it is the¢best design or layout program¢currently available for the 8-Bit¢computer. It has only 3 colors black,¢white and inverse. This program is¢designed for PRINTING your pictures.¢It can be used for graphic layouts,¢charts, maps, designs etc. The program¢saves the design as a 62 sector¢graphic. Thus it can be used with any¢kind of printing utility. RON prints¢out the designs with BILLBOARD.¢BILLBOARD is a shareware program that¢ranks on the top of the printing¢utilities. If you don't have it you¢can get it from our library.¢ DESIGN MASTER is a two part¢program. The first part is the drawing¢program. The 2nd part is the HARDCOPY¢or printing program. The HARDCOPY¢program is O.K. but BILLBOARD is more¢flexible and you can print your¢designs from very small to wall size.¢¢ RON showed how you can load two¢pictures into the DESIGN MASTER. One¢goes into BANK #1 and the other goes¢into BANK #2. You can paste and cut¢between the two pictures. It has about¢10 different text sizes you can use.¢It has a cross hair cursor as well as¢regular cursors. It has 11 different¢drawing modes and a great tool¢section. This program also works great¢with the ATARI TRACK BALL, or¢JOYSTICK. This program is designed to¢PRINT out your picture. It is NOT a¢screen drawing program primarily. The¢documentation disk that RON wrote is¢available from our library and it is¢P.D. and the price is $3.00, for those¢of you who have the PROGRAM itself.¢ ALEX demoed a finance program¢that does ALL the things that you ever¢want to do or need to know. It figures¢out returns on your investments,¢mortgage payments, installment loans,¢annuity or pension income, devaluation¢of the dollar, mortgage comparisons,¢paycheck calculations, property¢expenses and many more items. The disk¢is in the library - a must have disk!¢This is disk #61 in our library,¢called "OL' HACKERS FINANCE DISK".¢ We saw another program called¢POKER MASTER. ALEX played poker and¢lost his shirt to the computer. This¢was not a P.D. disk. It is a great¢card game program.¢¢ ALEX showed the program¢"TITLCARD.BAS". This is one of the¢best programs you can get to create¢titles for your screens. If you use¢the program list it first and read¢line 0 for quick docs. More DOCS are¢seperate. You can draw boxes around¢the screen. Decide on the size of the¢text. Mix different size texts on the¢screen, change colors etc. If you save¢these screens they will be over 100¢sectors long. The program cannot do¢special characters such as #,$,% etc.¢It can only use letters and numbers.¢You can have a rainbow or flashing¢display etc. The program uses the¢FORCED READ MODE. This means that the¢program modifies itself and then it¢reads the NEW code and executes it.¢Only ATARI COMPUTERS can do that. (BUT¢ITS ONLY A GAME MACHINE, RIGHT?)¢¢Submitted by¢ RON FETZER¢¢>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>END<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<¢¢