MINUTES OF MAY 1992 MEETING›===========================››NEW MEMBERS:››     ELLEN LENTZ, from OHIO, became  a›member  of the OL' HACKERS. ELLEN is a›regular contributing author  to  ATARI›INTERFACE  MAGAZINE  and  she   writes›articles  on  the  8-Bit computer. Her›husband TED is  also  an  avid  8  Bit›user.  ELLEN  and TED live in Ohio. We›hope to hear a lot from ELLEN.›     LOUIS DE ANGELIS joined our club.›LOUIS  brought  his 8-Bit equipment to›the club to be tested. It worked fine!›We  have  4  NEW  MEMBERS (thats right›FOUR) from ENGLAND.  They  are  J.  A.›CLARK, D. EWENS, J. MATTHENSON and  D.›NEWMAN. They all are  avid  8-Bitters,›who aso belong to a club in ENGLAND!›     Welcome  everyone  to   the   OL'›HACKERS ATARI USERS GROUP, Inc.. May I›say that you made a wise choice. ››TREASURERS REPORT:››     We are in  the  black  and  doing›O.K.,  thanks  to  th  sale  of 2 disk›"DISK MANAGEMENT SYSTEM ($6.00)",  and›3  disk  "TURBOBASIC  PROGRAMMING  KIT›($7.00)".››CORRESPONDENCE:››     ALEX  read a letter that he mails›out to everyone who orders a disk from›our  library.  In  it  he  invites the›person to join our club. He enumerates›the  benefits  they  will  reveive  by›belonging to our club.›     ALEX  read a letter from COWGATE,›NEWCASTLE-ON-TYNE in ENGLAND. Thia was›from  the  four members who joined our›club from  England.  See  NEW  MEMBERS›above.  They  sent  us  a  printout of›their software list. They also sent us›8 double sided disks from England as a›gift to the club. Thanks fellows,  its›obvious  that you are real OL' HACKERS›already.›     ALEX read  a  letter  from  ELLEN›LENTZ.  In  it  she  complimented  our›newsletter.  She  tells  us  that  she›really enjoys writing articles for the›8-Bit computer. ELLEN writes that  she›wants  to start a new feature of "ODDS›and ENDS"  and  would  appreciate  any›kind  of  help  from  our members. She›wants favorite programs or new  things›that clubs are doing etc. ELLEN writes›that   she  just  finished  writing  a›review  of  the  PROGRAMMING  KIT.  It›should   come   out   soon  in  A.I.M.›magazine.   RON  proposed  that  ELLEN›become a 1992 HONORARY MEMBER  of  the›club  in  recognition  of all the work›she has done for the 8-Bit  community.›ALLAN SHARKIS seconded the motion. She›was admitted by a unanimous vote.›     A letter from RICHARD REASER  JR.›8  Bit  editor  of  CURRENT  NOTES. He›ordered the "DISK MANAGEMENT  SYSTEM."›One  of his staff writers is writing a›review  of  all  the  disk  cataloging›systems for  the  8-Bit  computer.  He›also  asked  about  our  club  and any›information we have that he can use in›the  magazine. ALEX replied by sending›him a history of  the  club  and  some›materials  that  he  can  use  in  his›article.›     A  letter  from  DUG  FINCH  from›Connecticut.  He  advised  that  there›will  be  a  CONNECTICUT ATARI FEST at›the SHERATON HOTEL  near  HARTFORD  on›August 15 and 16.›     A letter from LARRY TISCHBEIN our›member from QUAKERTOWN, PA. He thanked›ALEX  for  the 2 disks he received. He›especially liked the PSLABEL7 program.›He  wanted  to  know how we did at the›TRENTON COMPUTER FAIR.  ALEX  replied,›and  told  him that 4 members went and›all bought equipment, i.e.  computers,›printers,  etc. making for a succesful›foray. ALEX said he would love to  get›LARRY's  articles  as  an  out-of-town›member for our newsletter. ›      JACG    made   our   MARCH/APRIL›NEWSLETTER  DISK  their  DISK  OF  THE›MONTH.   They  especially  liked  ALAN›SHARKIS   column   of   ATARI    8-BIT›NEWSLETTER REVIEWS. (Its loaded.)›     A  letter  from   ROWLAND   GRANT›secretary  of  the  GARDEN CITY ACE in›VICTORIA, CANADA he writes  that  they›are  writing  more  8-Bit articles for›their newsletter XIO 3 and  for  PSAN.›PSAN  is  back  in  business again. He›will send  us  the  articles  for  our›NEWSLETTER.›     A long letter from our member TOM›ANDREWS from SYRACUSE.  TOM  took  our›newsletter and arc'd it and  put it on›the SYRACUSE BBS. He received a lot of›responses to our newsletter.›     JIM  CUTLER   our   member   from›England  writes  us  about  the  4 new›members   that  are  joining  us  from›NEWCASTLE   England,  and  sent  us  4›disks. THANKS JIM!›      From  the  POKEY  NEWSLETTER  in›Rochester N.Y. They thanked us for the›newsletter  format and the idea to put›their   newsletter  on  a  disk.  ALAN›SHARKIS said their newsletter is  very›nice  and  the  graphics are great. An›excellent newsletter. JOHN KASUPSKI is›responsible  for  the  high quality of›each newsletter. Good work, JOHN. They›welcomed    a   new   member   HADJILA›NASSERDINE from  Algeria.  He  was  an›OL'HACKER  last year. He also seems to›have become a member of (FR)ANTIC,  in›TEXAS.  My,  he  really  gets  around,›doesnt he?›     ALEX  commented  about  the great›support he gets from every  member  of›our  group.  Everyone  is involved and›that is the reason  our  club  is  the›greatest.  ALEX said this club started›on TWO premise's---The first is   that›we  would help each other. We all have›each others number. If one member does›not  know the answer somebody else may›know it. Every member is  willing  and›does  help. The second premise is that›we would not make money at  a  members›expense  but  still make money for the›club. An example of  this  program  is›our  DISKO  PARTY where YOU bring in 5›blank disks, and then YOU can  copy  5›double  sided disk for 5 bucks. If you›are a corresponding member,  the  deal›for  you  is we supply the 5 disks and›copy  it  for  you  and  mail  it  for›$8.00.››PICNIC:››      STAN   SCHENFELD   the    Picnic›Chairman  suggested  that   we   might›consider  going  to  CAFE  20  for   a›dinner,  which  was  so  successful in›February, instead of  the  picnic.  It›seems  BRADY  PARK  is  booked for the›whole  year.  There  will  be  further›discussions at the next  meeting.  The›tentative date is July 18, 1992.››     ALAN  SHARKIS  showed us a banner›he made with PRINT POWER. PRINT  POWER›is  a  great  program  to  make cards,›banners and signs. He had  some  great›ICONS on the banner.››BBS:››     ALAN  urged  each member to go on›the NEW NEST  BBS  (516  234-4943)  at›least  once a week to find out what is›new. ALAN said there are 8 disks  with›ICONS  for  PRINT POWER. They are rare›items and you can get  them  from  the›BBS.   On each disk there are about 60›icons. JIM HARRIS the SYSOP is  always›willing  to give you any help that you›need. ALAN was even willing to come to›a  members  house  and show how to use›the modem if you want him to.›     ALLEN ATKINS volunteered to print›out  his  notes  of  the  meeting   he›attended  at  LONG  ISLAND ATARI USERS›GROUP, when they had their  BBS  demo.›ALLAN  said   his   notes   are   very›complete.  He  will distribute them to›the members.›     ALAN SHARKIS then made  a  motion›that  we contribute $10.00 a month for›the time  being  toward  the  cost  of›running  the  BBS, to be reviewed in 3›months time. The motion  was  carried.›The treasurer was instructed to mail a›check for  $30.  to  JIM  HARRIS,  our›member and the SYSOP of the NEW NEST.›     JACK  GEDALIUS  suggested that on›the telephone list  we  put  down  the›spouse's  name  so  we know to whom we›are talking when we call a member, and›the spouse answers!››DOOR PRIZES:››LOUIS  DE  ANGELIS  (Once  again a new›member wins on first visit.)›BOB ULSCHMID›STAN SCHENFELD›AL ATKINS›JOE LEBER›JACK GEDALIUS››    Looks like HARRY TUTHILLs luck ran›out cause hedidnt win a  door prize at›this drawing,  but after showing us  a›"WELCOME LOU" fancy title  on  screen,›ALEX quietly reran "DOOR PRIZE".., and›yes, HARRYs number came right up first›and he won the last door prize!›So he got his door prize after all!››DEMO's:››     RON FETZER demonstrated a  German›Program  called  DESIGN  MASTER.   The›program  DID   NOT   COME   WITH   ANY›DOCUMENTATION  and  it  is  in German.›Since RON  reads  German  he  wrote  a›whole  double  sided  disk  on  DESIGN›MASTER documentation. DESIGN MASTER is›not a P.D.  program.  It  is  NOT  the›usual  drawing  program  but it is the›best   design   or   layout    program›currently  available  for  the   8-Bit›computer.  It has only 3 colors black,›white and  inverse.  This  program  is›designed  for  PRINTING your pictures.›It can be used  for  graphic  layouts,›charts, maps, designs etc. The program›saves   the  design  as  a  62  sector›graphic. Thus it can be used with  any›kind  of  printing utility. RON prints›out   the   designs   with  BILLBOARD.›BILLBOARD is a shareware program  that›ranks  on  the  top  of  the  printing›utilities.  If  you  don't have it you›can get it from our library.›      DESIGN  MASTER  is  a  two  part›program. The first part is the drawing›program.  The 2nd part is the HARDCOPY›or   printing  program.  The  HARDCOPY›program is O.K. but BILLBOARD is  more›flexible  and  you  can   print   your›designs  from very small to wall size.››     RON showed how you can  load  two›pictures  into  the DESIGN MASTER. One›goes into BANK #1 and the  other  goes›into  BANK  #2.  You can paste and cut›between the two pictures. It has about›10  different  text sizes you can use.›It has a cross hair cursor as well  as›regular  cursors.  It has 11 different›drawing   modes   and   a  great  tool›section. This program also works great›with  the   ATARI   TRACK   BALL,   or›JOYSTICK.  This program is designed to›PRINT out your picture. It  is  NOT  a›screen  drawing program primarily. The›documentation disk that RON  wrote  is›available  from  our library and it is›P.D. and the price is $3.00, for those›of you who have the PROGRAM itself.›     ALEX  demoed  a  finance  program›that does ALL the things that you ever›want to do or need to know. It figures›out  returns  on   your   investments,›mortgage  payments, installment loans,›annuity or pension income, devaluation›of  the  dollar, mortgage comparisons,›paycheck     calculations,    property›expenses and many more items. The disk›is  in the library - a must have disk!›This  is  disk  #61  in  our  library,›called "OL' HACKERS FINANCE DISK".›     We  saw  another  program  called›POKER  MASTER.  ALEX  played poker and›lost his shirt to the  computer.  This›was  not  a  P.D.  disk. It is a great›card game program.››      ALEX    showed    the    program›"TITLCARD.BAS".  This  is  one  of the›best programs you can  get  to  create›titles  for  your  screens. If you use›the program list  it  first  and  read›line  0  for quick docs. More DOCS are›seperate. You can  draw  boxes  around›the  screen. Decide on the size of the›text. Mix different size texts on  the›screen, change colors etc. If you save›these screens they will  be  over  100›sectors  long.  The  program cannot do›special characters such as #,$,%  etc.›It  can  only use letters and numbers.›You can have  a  rainbow  or  flashing›display  etc.  The  program  uses  the›FORCED  READ MODE. This means that the›program modifies itself  and  then  it›reads  the  NEW  code and executes it.›Only ATARI COMPUTERS can do that. (BUT›ITS ONLY A GAME MACHINE, RIGHT?)››Submitted by›                       RON FETZER››>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>END<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<››