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From: dunmunro@direct.ca 27-Nov-99 01:29:17
To: All 27-Nov-99 03:29:02
Subj: K6-3 at 500mhz
From: dunmunro@direct.ca (Duncan Munro)
I have my FIC 503+ MB and K6-3-450 (AFX 2.2v) CPU running stable at
500mhz (5X100) at 2.4v.
Could someone with an Athlon and\or a P3 could post results with the
same applications?
here are some benchmarks:
Sysbench 0.9.4e result file created Fri Nov 26 16:52:17 1999
Machine name - Unknown machine
Manufacturer - Unknown manufacturer
Motherboard - Unknown motherboard
Chipset - VIA Technologies - VT82C597 / VT82C597AT Apollo
VP3
Processor - AMD K6-3 PR300 through PR450 AMD-K6(tm) 3D+
Processor stepping 5.9.1
External cache - 32Kb internal instruction cache, 32Kb internal
data cache
Graphics card - NVidia - Riva 128 TNT GUI+3D Accelerator
Storage Controller - unknown controller
Storage Controller - VIA Technologies - AMD-645 / VT82C856A/B PBC, IDE
Controller
Storage Controller - VIA Technologies - AMD-645 / VT82C856A/B PBC, IDE
Controller
Machine data
Coprocessor = Yes
Processors = 1
RAM = 255.93 MB
Operating System data
OS/2 version = 20.40
CSDLevel = XR0M010_
FIXLevel = XR0M010_
Revision number = 9.034
Priority = Dynamic
Maxwait = 1
Timeslice = (32,32)
Protectonly = NO
Swap file size = 40.00MB
...initially = 40.00MB
Video data
Resolution = 1152x864x16 bits/pixel
Number planes = 0
Screen Access = Direct
Bank Switched = No
Bytes/scanline = 2304
Aperture size = 16515072
Manufact. code = 4318
Chipset code = 32
Graphics
BitBlt S->S copy : 311.666 Million pixels/second
BitBlt M->S copy : 21.784 Million pixels/second
Filled Rectangle : 1169.424 Million pixels/second
Pattern Fill : 32.263 Million pixels/second
Vertical Lines : 7.330 Million pixels/second
Horizontal Lines : 7.950 Million pixels/second
Diagonal Lines : 7.695 Million pixels/second
Text Render : 17.265 Million pixels/second
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
Total : 232.377 PM-Graphics-marks
CPU integer
Dhrystone : 699.800 VAX 11/780 MIPS equivalent
Hanoi : 399.000 moves/25 microseconds
Heapsort : 255.300 Million Instructions Per
Second
Sieve : 407.400 Million Instructions Per
Second
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
Total : 495.476 CPU integer-marks
CPU float
Linpack : 37.820 MFLOPS
Flops : 88.580 MFLOPS
Fast Fourier Transfrm : 36.960 VAX FFT's
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
Total : 63.652 CPU floating point-marks
Direct Interface to video extensions - DIVE
Video bus bandwidth : 59.581 Megabytes/second
DIVE fun : 213.393 fps normalised to
640x480x256
M->S, DD, 1.00:1 : 202.647 fps normalised to
640x480x256
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
Total : 76.544 DIVE-marks
Memory
5 kB copy : 1834.646 Megabytes/second
10 kB copy : 1868.303 Megabytes/second
20 kB copy : 1874.678 Megabytes/second
40 kB copy : 901.608 Megabytes/second
80 kB copy : 633.521 Megabytes/second
160 kB copy : 622.456 Megabytes/second
320 kB copy : 181.194 Megabytes/second
640 kB copy : 146.353 Megabytes/second
1280 kB copy : 117.500 Megabytes/second
5 kB read : 1099.962 Megabytes/second
10 kB read : 1103.598 Megabytes/second
20 kB read : 1101.127 Megabytes/second
40 kB read : 973.486 Megabytes/second
80 kB read : 907.290 Megabytes/second
160 kB read : 907.690 Megabytes/second
320 kB read : 444.375 Megabytes/second
640 kB read : 431.997 Megabytes/second
1280 kB read : 355.124 Megabytes/second
5 kB write : 1591.553 Megabytes/second
10 kB write : 1596.472 Megabytes/second
20 kB write : 1594.659 Megabytes/second
40 kB write : 1149.717 Megabytes/second
80 kB write : 979.968 Megabytes/second
160 kB write : 979.174 Megabytes/second
320 kB write : 220.329 Megabytes/second
640 kB write : 206.652 Megabytes/second
1280 kB write : 166.334 Megabytes/second
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
Total : 1029.469 Memory-marks
Disk I/O disk 0-2: 8809 MB - QUANTUM FIREBALLP KA9.1 (7200rpm)
Avg. data access time : 11.600 milliseconds
Cache/Bus xfer rate : 25.192 Megabytes/second
Track 0 xfer rate fwd : 19.494 Megabytes/second
Middle trk rate fwds. : 16.423 Megabytes/second
Last track rate bwds. : 11.052 Megabytes/second
Average Transfer rate : 15.656 Megabytes/second
Disk use CPU load : 4.010 percent
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Total : 93.476 Disk I/O-marks
and my very own port, betabyte, AKA byte\2:
look for it at hobbes.nmsu.edu as bytewarp.zip
BBBBBB YYY Y TTT EEEEEEE \ 222
BBB B YYY TTT EEE \ 222
BBB B YYY TTT EEE \ 222
BBBBBB YYY TTT EEEEEEE \2222222
BYTEmark (tm) Native Mode OS/2 Benchmark ver. 2 (10/95)
NUMERIC SORT: Iterations/sec.: 252.660891 Index: 6.479647
STRING SORT: Iterations/sec.: 30.933689 Index: 13.822024
BITFIELD: Iterations/sec.: 37381815.760546 Index: 6.412301
FP EMULATION: Iterations/sec.: 14.892041 Index: 7.145893
FOURIER: Iterations/sec.: 3883.273381 Index: 4.416434
ASSIGNMENT: Iterations/sec.: 2.865332 Index: 10.903089
IDEA: Iterations/sec.: 462.889361 Index: 7.079768
HUFFMAN: Iterations/sec.: 218.155674 Index: 6.049461
NEURAL NET: Iterations/sec.: 3.038366 Index: 4.880910
LU DECOMPOSITION: Iterations/sec.: 72.210123 Index: 3.740856
...done...
===========OVERALL============
INTEGER INDEX: 7.897617
FLOATING-POINT INDEX: 4.320243
(90 MHz Dell Pentium = 1.00)
==============================
[E:\bytecpu\beta]
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From: tmedin@attglobal.net 26-Nov-99 17:13:20
To: All 27-Nov-99 03:29:02
Subj: HELP 8gig hd
From: ted medin <tmedin@attglobal.net>
I tried to reinstall warp 4 after upgrading the hd to 8gig. Install
fails with bad info on the hd. So what do i have to add to the
diskettes? TIA
--
In Christ's matchless name
73 ted
n6trf
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From: jim.danvers@mindex.com 26-Nov-99 22:20:06
To: All 27-Nov-99 03:29:02
Subj: Re: Sound Cards and OS/2 (Creative PCI 128?)
From: Jim Danvers <jim.danvers@mindex.com>
Thanks for the response Tom...
I'm becoming increasingly frustrated with the OS (OS/2) in general. :( It's
to
bad too - I ran it back "in the day" when bbs's and FidoNet were the way that
computer geeks communicated and it was a superb platform for the hardware and
software that was available at the time. Now... I have twice the processing
power, 8 times the hard disk space and memory, yet I can't get it (OS/2) to
run
all of my periphals (or even install in some cases) with the PC's that I have
around here, and unfortunately the outlook for it continues to spiral
downward.
On the other side of the coin though, the MS product (9x-NT) all install and
run
with all of my hardware with a minimal of issue. {sigh} I'm spec'ing out a
new
PC - guess that I'm just going to have to take my time, do some research on
ALL
of the peripherals that I would like to use with it, and ensure that
everything
that I choose will work with Linux & OS/2 - Win compatibility is a no brainer
-
you ~know~ it'll work.
-=- J.D. -=-
tom wrote:
> Jim Danvers wrote:
>
> > Hi guys...
> >
> > I just installed Warp 3 (blue spine) and am trying (hoping) to get audio
> > running on this box - it has a Creative Labs Sound Blaster PCI 128 card in
> > it and I have not been able to locate any info on getting it running as
> > yet. I'm dual booting this box @present w/Win95 and the audio card works
> > fine.
> >
> > Anyone have any pointers or suggestions?
> >
> > Thanks in advance....
> >
> > -=- J.D. -=-
>
> Good luck, unless it comes with OS/2 drivers you are
> out of luck. There are very few PCI devices that
> comes with them.
>
> Tom Street
> 920-693-2824
>
> S E M C O
> Street Electric Manufacturing Company
> Mfg. of the QuadJoy mouse for quadriplegics
> and people with high mobility impairments.
>
> see it at http://www.quadjoy.com
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From: kerwinlu@hotmail.com 27-Nov-99 03:38:07
To: All 27-Nov-99 03:29:03
Subj: Re: Sound Cards and OS/2 (Creative PCI 128?)
From: "Kerwin" <kerwinlu@hotmail.com>
Glen D <glen@rockyhorror.Zkaroo.co.uk> wrote in message
news:y7xHJI5dddgW-pn2-l0qnL6dDwn80@dialup200.coruscant.kingston-internet.net
...
> On Fri, 26 Nov 1999 17:12:27, Jim Danvers <jim.danvers@mindex.com>
> wrote:
> > I just installed Warp 3 (blue spine) and am trying (hoping) to get audio
> > running on this box - it has a Creative Labs Sound Blaster PCI 128 card
in
> > it and I have not been able to locate any info on getting it running as
> > yet. I'm dual booting this box @present w/Win95 and the audio card
works
> > fine.
> Creative released the source code to the Linux SB:Live drivers so it
> should be possible to port it to OS/2. Any volunteers?
I saw an article in Taiwan's OS/2 newsgroup as few weeks ago,
they said that because Creative&Aureal released their driver source code,
one company called Theta Band Software decided
that they are going to write OS/2 drivers for Creative&Aureal's chips.
But they are not going to release the source code.
And, if there are any other companies who want to write OS/2 drivers for
these chips,
Thera Band Software will never write the OS/2 drivers again anymore.....
Does anybody know it's ture or not?
Kerwin
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From: doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net 27-Nov-99 05:25:14
To: All 27-Nov-99 03:29:03
Subj: Re: Does FIXPAK 12 include previous fixpaks
From: doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net (Doug Bissett)
On Fri, 26 Nov 1999 16:28:27, "Matt Walsh" <mwalsh1@elp.rr.com> wrote:
> On Fri, 26 Nov 1999 09:52:24 -0600, J. Ken Zur wrote:
>
> >I'm having problems getting my internet connection working under Warp 4. I
> >was told to install fixpak 12, which did not fix the problem. Question -
> >Does FP12 include all the earlier FP's?
> YES, it includes all prior changes.
Actually, this is NOT true. As of FP10 (or was it FP11??) most of the
device drivers were dropped from the regular fix packs. You also need
the Device Driver fix pack to get the devices drivers updated (not all
of them, only the most common ones).
Go to:
ftp://ftp.software.ibm.com/ps/products/os2/fixes/DDPak/
for the DD fix pack.
Go to:
http://service.software.ibm.com/os2ddpak/html/index.htm
for device drivers that are not included in the DD fix pack, or the
regular fix pack.
> Do I need file/print sharing
> >installed to access the internet?
> No. That's for peer connection. You needed TCP-IP.
>
> Matt Walsh OS/2 Outpost
> El Paso, TX Computin' & Shootin' in the dust.
>
After you get TCP/IP installed, you may need some fixes for that. Take
a look at:
http://duanec.indelible-blue.com/fixes/LatestWarp4.html
for a lot of good information about what may need to be updated.
Hope this helps...
******************************
From the PC of Doug Bissett
doug.bissett at attglobal.net
The " at " must be changed to "@"
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From: jan.hartman@fil.lu.se 27-Nov-99 08:40:07
To: All 27-Nov-99 05:14:15
Subj: Re: Desktop problems: the way out, but a new problem
From: "Jan Hartman" <jan.hartman@fil.lu.se>
My "solution" to the problem with my desktop opening as a
floder is this. It is a bit wired, I know, but nevertheless.
First of all, I renamed my desktop from a text-window.
(ren Desktop Temptop) Doing this made all folders and icons disappear, but
the text-window stayed.
Then I created a folder with the old name (md temptop).
I then used checkini to make sure it was set as the desktop
(checkini /C /DC:\Desktop)
Reboot.
The new "Desktop" comes up, but looks strange. No folders, only
icons for printers. Manage to open a text-window, and from there
the old desktop (temptop). Draggs folders and icons to the new
desktop, removes temptop, and I'm an all set.
But for one thing.
Not my desktiop is WP_Folder, not WP_Desktop, and I therefore lack
some menues. Checkini does not help. What to do? According to
EaBrowser, there is not other folder that is WP_Desktop.
Thanks,
/ Jan
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From: rsteiner@visi.com 27-Nov-99 01:53:18
To: All 27-Nov-99 05:14:15
Subj: Re: OS2, NT or Linux
From: rsteiner@visi.com (Richard Steiner)
Here in comp.os.os2.misc, =?iso-8859-1?Q?Bj=F8rn?= Vermo <bv@opera.no>
spake unto us, saying:
>Tom Plunket wrote:
>
>> Umm, if you had a slow computer why would you run Gnome? If you
>> did a default install, you've probably got Enlightenment running
>> too...
>
>Sure - comparing same to same. I had been running Aurora with WPS and
>everything on it, including the Java GUI for LVM and TCP/IP configuration,
>and Gnome / Enlightenment does not add nearly as much functionality as I
>used to have.
Enlightenment is a window manager known for its large size, its interface
customizability via arbitrary bitmaps, and its relative instability. It
isn't as strong on raw functionality (IMhO) as several other wm's are.
Gnome is a desktop still in a relatively early state of development and
quite rough around the edges (it's about where KDE was 8-10 months ago),
and it seems noticably slower than KDE here even on my PPro/200.
I'd advise you to take a serious look at a less extremist Linux desktop
environment like KDE or WindowMaker before passing any sort of judgement
on the general performance of the Linux desktop as a whole. What you
are seeing is an extreme case, and it can be made MUCH faster.
>This shows something I really knew all along - X is terribly inefficient.
Of course -- X is a network-distributable desktop. You'd really have
to compare OS/2 with an X server running to compare the two fairly.
>It also demonstrates that OS/2 is very efficient - with the same feature
>set it outperforms Linux and all UNIX-versions on the same hardware. Try
>OS/2 without PM and WPS against a command-line Linux, and you'll see.
I do think that OS/2 is faster on the same hardware than Linux is, even
if you boot the two into text-mode only.
--
-Rich Steiner >>>---> rsteiner@visi.com >>>---> Bloomington, MN
OS/2 + BeOS + Linux + Solaris + Win95 + WinNT4 + FreeBSD + DOS
+ VMWare + Fusion + vMac + Executor = PC Hobbyist Heaven! :-)
Yes, but did you read the REALLY fine print?
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From: osmo.vuorio@sonera.fi 27-Nov-99 08:17:06
To: All 27-Nov-99 05:14:15
Subj: Re: HELP 8gig hd
From: osmo.vuorio@sonera.fi (osmo vuorio)
In article <383F3044.4B7A19F0@attglobal.net>, ted medin <tmedin@attglobal.net>
says:
>
>I tried to reinstall warp 4 after upgrading the hd to 8gig. Install
>fails with bad info on the hd. So what do i have to add to the
>diskettes? TIA
The classic 4GB limitation needs the classic fix
http://service.software.ibm.com/os2ddpak/html/miscellb/os_2warp/
Osmo
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From: admin@contec.com.pl 27-Nov-99 10:05:21
To: All 27-Nov-99 10:30:01
Subj: Re: K6-3 at 500mhz
From: admin@contec.com.pl (Piotr Oniszczuk)
Hi,
Have You made any special steeps on Your FIC 503+ (BIOS upgr, etc) for
using K6-3 ?
Mine 503+ MoBo hasn't K6-3 listed in support CPU's :-(((
Hiroshima'45; Czernobyl'87; Windows'95
Piotr/2
e-mail: admin@contec.com.pl
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From: luc.vanbogaert.nospam@pandora.be 27-Nov-99 11:46:27
To: All 27-Nov-99 10:30:01
Subj: Re: Does FIXPAK 12 include previous fixpaks
From: "Luc Van Bogaert" <luc.vanbogaert.nospam@pandora.be>
On Fri, 26 Nov 1999 09:52:24 -0600, J. Ken Zur wrote:
>I'm having problems getting my internet connection working under Warp 4. I
>was told to install fixpak 12, which did not fix the problem. Question -
>Does FP12 include all the earlier FP's? Do I need file/print sharing
>installed to access the internet? Shouldn't I have some form of LAN
>software? Microsoft has "client for MS networks", what does OS/2 use?
Give more info on the problem. What exactly isn't working? Do you use dial-up
connection, cable, ...?
If you use a dial-up connection you don't have to install file/print sharing.
All Fixpaks are cummulative, which means you only have to install the latest
fixpak.
Luc Van Bogaert
I was at Warpstock '99...
Visit www.warpstock.org for the most important OS/2 event of the year
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From: rascho@nospam.iname.com 27-Nov-99 13:22:21
To: All 27-Nov-99 10:30:01
Subj: Java CLASSPATH
From: "Rade Popovic" <rascho@nospam.iname.com>
Hi!
Can somebody tell me what should I put in my CLASSPATH variable,
because I don't have one, and what is it for (I know Java use it but my
seem to work without it).
One other thing. When updating my Java runtime I download file called
runtime.exe. Now I have also downloaded file called os2jre.exe (from
same directory) and in readme it says "IBM(R) OS/2 WARP RUNTIME
ENVIRONMENT, JAVA(TM) TECHNOLOGY EDITION". os2jre.exe installs itself
in jre11 directory. What is the difference between those two?
TIA
Rascho
e-mail:rascho@iname.com
ICQ# 49354974
------------------------
Hal 9000: "Dave, put those Windows disks down....Dave...DAVE!"
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From: chili-1@home.com 27-Nov-99 12:13:18
To: All 27-Nov-99 10:30:01
Subj: Re: Help Please, Cable modem
From: chili-1@home.com (Gerry Chilibeck)
In message <382EE4C4.895715B9@carolina.rr.com> - "Jon C."
<jcleveland@carolina.rr.com> writes:
>
>I know this has been talked about alot, and I have checked the available
>url's, but I am still having
>trouble getting OS/2 to connect to the network. I know Time Warner uses
>DHCP. I went into win98
>ran winipcfg and retrieved all the settings. I go into OS/2 tcpip,
>configure it for DHCP, set the router address
>etc. When I reboot it says "DHCP client did not get settings. Will still
>try in background". And then
>I can't ping anything. If I choose Manual instead of DHCP and I
>configure the IP address, router address etc,
>after I reboot I can ping the IP address but nothing else. What am I
>missing? I gone over and over this
>at least 20 times and still nothing. I am in Charlotte North Carolina
>using Time Warner Cable.
>Oh, and I am using a 3Com Etherlink III 509b-TP NIC. I have upgraded
>MPTS to version 5.4, and have
>configured it for tcpip. Can someone please help?
>
>Thank You
>
>Jon Cleveland
>
Hey Jon, this may help you. Took me 3 days to get up on cable. Do
this:
What to do if, when installing cable, you get the message "DHCPSTRT:
DHCP client did not get parameters.continuing in the background" when
booting.....(applies to Rogers cable, Canada, YMMV)
1...Rem out this line in your config.sys This prevents DHCP
negotiation during boot.. (Not mandatory)
rem CALL=I:\OS2\CMD.EXE /Q /C I:\MPTN\BIN\MPTSTART.CMD >NUL ... and
save
2...Alter/add this line in X:\MPTN\ETC\DHCPCD.CFG down near the bottom
in the "option" area of this file. The "cr" will be your client number
provided by your cable supplier.
option 12 "cr9XXXX2-a" # My Hostname ....and save
3...Create a program object for the in X:\MPTN\BIN\SETUP.CMD. You
may wish to call it "CABLESTART". This will start the cable
connection the your supplier. Place this object in your "TCP/IP
Internet(LAN) folder(or wherever). You may want to set up this
object; Properties/session/ and check the "Start Minimized" and "Close
window on exit" boxes. Then, create a shadow of this object and put it
in your "Startup" folder. (not mandatory...but if you do 1.(above)
then you must do 3.
Start/stop your cable modem without booting...then:
To stop your connection, kill the DHCPCD.EXE thread.
To start your connection, Double click on "Cable start".
GWC: 11/25/99
...Chili-1 at home.com....Eh!
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From: zayne@omen.com.au 27-Nov-99 15:16:09
To: All 27-Nov-99 14:20:21
Subj: Re: K6-3 at 500mhz
From: zayne@omen.com.au (Mooo)
dunmunro@direct.ca (Duncan Munro) wrote:
>I have my FIC 503+ MB and K6-3-450 (AFX 2.2v) CPU running stable at
>500mhz (5X100) at 2.4v.
>
>
>Could someone with an Athlon and\or a P3 could post results with the
>same applications?
Yes this is an interesting question. I have noticed in the last week
or so that the K6-3 has dissapeared from most of my suppliers price
lists in favour of low end Athlons. Are they similar in performance?
Or would a 500MHz Athlon beat a 500Mhz K6-3 by a long way?
Cheers,
Craig
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From: greywolf@onlink.net 27-Nov-99 13:48:07
To: All 27-Nov-99 16:56:11
Subj: Huge EA file
From: "Wolf Kirchmeir" <greywolf@onlink.net>
Ihave a 28MB EA file on my boot partition. It was about 2.5-3MB, then I had
an automatic reboot (bec. of a badly seated card, which did wierd things
until I fixed it), and since then the EA file has been enormous.
Can I fix this?
Thanks for your help
Wolf Kirchmeir
If you didn't want to go to chicago,
why did you get on the train? (Anon.)
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From: jdc0014@InfoNET.st-johns.nf.ca 27-Nov-99 17:02:22
To: All 27-Nov-99 16:56:12
Subj: Re: K6-3 at 500mhz
From: jdc0014@InfoNET.st-johns.nf.ca (John Hong)
Mooo (zayne@omen.com.au) wrote:
: Yes this is an interesting question. I have noticed in the last week
: or so that the K6-3 has dissapeared from most of my suppliers price
: lists in favour of low end Athlons. Are they similar in performance?
: Or would a 500MHz Athlon beat a 500Mhz K6-3 by a long way?
K6-3's are going to be eventually phased out from the looks of
things. AMD looks like they will make a K6-2+ which is something like
the K6-3, but instead of a 256k cache it will only have a 128k cache.
The reason you have never seen any AMD K6-3 500Mhz CPU's for instence is
because AMD was afraid it would eat into their Athlon 500Mhz sales. AMD
is really pushing hard for the Athlon. They may keep the K6-3 around but
probably only for laptops.
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From: dunmunro@direct.ca 27-Nov-99 18:39:09
To: All 27-Nov-99 16:56:12
Subj: Re: K6-3 at 500mhz
From: dunmunro@direct.ca (Duncan Munro)
I have a FIC 503+ V1.2a and I'm using the latest bios.
Duncan
On 27 Nov 1999 10:05:42 GMT, admin@contec.com.pl (Piotr Oniszczuk)
wrote:
>Hi,
>
>Have You made any special steeps on Your FIC 503+ (BIOS upgr, etc) for
>using K6-3 ?
>Mine 503+ MoBo hasn't K6-3 listed in support CPU's :-(((
>
>
>Hiroshima'45; Czernobyl'87; Windows'95
>
>Piotr/2
>e-mail: admin@contec.com.pl
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From: c.k.christacopoulos.REMOVEME@dun... 27-Nov-99 18:55:28
To: All 27-Nov-99 16:56:12
Subj: Re: Java CLASSPATH
Message sender: c.k.christacopoulos.REMOVEME@dundee.ac.uk
From: Charles Christacopoulos <c.k.christacopoulos.REMOVEME@dundee.ac.uk>
Rade Popovic wrote:
>
> Hi!
>
> Can somebody tell me what should I put in my CLASSPATH variable,
> because I don't have one, and what is it for (I know Java use it but my
> seem to work without it).
Pass.
> One other thing. When updating my Java runtime I download file called
> runtime.exe. Now I have also downloaded file called os2jre.exe (from
> same directory) and in readme it says "IBM(R) OS/2 WARP RUNTIME
> ENVIRONMENT, JAVA(TM) TECHNOLOGY EDITION". os2jre.exe installs itself
> in jre11 directory. What is the difference between those two?
I think the os2jre is the full runtime stuff. I think runtime.exe is a
fix for the full file.
Regards
Charles
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From: nospamless@home.com 27-Nov-99 20:15:17
To: All 27-Nov-99 16:56:12
Subj: Re: K6-3 at 500mhz
From: "¿gñH" <nospamless@home.com>
In <383ff568.1408176@news.omen.net.au>, on 11/27/99
at 03:16 PM, zayne@omen.com.au (Mooo) said:
>Yes this is an interesting question. I have noticed in the last week or so
>that the K6-3 has dissapeared from most of my suppliers price lists in
>favour of low end Athlons. Are they similar in performance? Or would a
>500MHz Athlon beat a 500Mhz K6-3 by a long way?
Integer Performance K6-III > K7, MHz for MHz.
Float Point Performance K7 > K6-III, by a LONG shot.
For example, SETI@Home is a very FPU intensive program, and K7 611 (550
overclocked) can finish one WU in 6.5Hr. Personally, I'm in favour of K7...
:) Much easier to overclock too... :)
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From: alberth@ibm.net 27-Nov-99 14:21:19
To: All 27-Nov-99 16:56:12
Subj: cdrom changeover
From: "Albert O. Howard" <alberth@ibm.net>
Hi All!
I had to replace my old quad speed cdrom drive. Got a Genius
multimedia 44X. Have it installed but I cannot get it recognized by
OS/2 fp 9. Have two IDE hd with cdrom setup to be slave on primary ide
controller.
I can get push button on front panel to open and close cdrom drive
only if I use switch /ATAPI behind IBM1S506.ADD A:0 U:1 for drive.
Otherwise the cdrom is dead for OS/2.
I have installed the latest idedasd.exe from IBM fixpak. No luck.
Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks in advance, Al Howard
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From: malkajef@orthohelp.com 27-Nov-99 16:42:02
To: All 28-Nov-99 00:25:05
Subj: Waht to do with *.xdk files in fixpaks
From: "Jeff Malka" <malkajef@orthohelp.com>
Ok, I downloaded fixpak 12 which consisted of a bunch of *.xdk files. None
of them are executables.
What do I do with them? How does one apply the fixpak?
Also there is something in one of the readmes about Theseus 3 replacing
theseus 2. Is this something I have to do in addition to fixpak12? What
is theseus anyway? I once knew but have forgotten.
--
Jeff Malka <malkajef@orthohelp.com>
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From: Trevor-Hemsley@dial.pipex.com 28-Nov-99 00:17:02
To: All 28-Nov-99 00:25:05
Subj: Re: Huge EA file
From: "Trevor Hemsley" <Trevor-Hemsley@dial.pipex.com>
On Sat, 27 Nov 1999 13:48:14 +0000, Wolf Kirchmeir wrote:
->Ihave a 28MB EA file on my boot partition. It was about 2.5-3MB, then I had
->an automatic reboot (bec. of a badly seated card, which did wierd things
->until I fixed it), and since then the EA file has been enormous.
->
->Can I fix this?
CHKDSK /F will remove any orphan EA's and reduce the size of the file if
any are misallocated. If it doesn't help then you really have that number
of EAs. The problem comes because each file that has an EA will allocate a
cluster of disk space to hold that EA. Each file that has more than one EA
will share the same cluster with the other EAs for that file (up until the
total exceeds the cluster size when another cluster will be allocated).
Separate files do not share EA clusters and each has its own.
On a FAT partition greater than 1GB the cluster size is 32KB so your 28MB
EA DATA. SF file means that you have approximately 890 files with an EA.
Trevor Hemsley, London, UK
(Trevor-Hemsley@dial.pipex.com or 75704.2477@compuserve.com)
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From: rcrane@octa4.net.au 28-Nov-99 00:50:18
To: All 28-Nov-99 00:25:05
Subj: Re: looking for mainboard recommendations
From: rcrane@octa4.net.au (Richard A Crane)
On Wed, 17 Nov 1999 12:06:21, dcasey@ibm.net (Dan Casey)
wrote:
> Athlon (AMD K7 processors) need a patch to the OS2LDR file, also from
> Dani, and also available at hobbes, in order for OS/2 to even see more
> than 64 Mb of RAM in the system. Once that patch is applied, all of
> the ram should be recognized. I say *should* because the patch has
> only been available for about 5 days, and all reports have been
> positive, so far.
>
This is not what has been widely reported in ngs. Only SOME
Athlon Mother Boards have had this trouble and of those that
did it appears to be those with BIOS within a certain date
range.
Richard A Crane
Barrister & Solicitor
slightly altered email (anti-spamming) rcrane AT
octa4.net.au
OR rcrane AT attglobal.net
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From: rcrane@octa4.net.au 28-Nov-99 00:50:03
To: All 28-Nov-99 00:25:05
Subj: Re: Please Help with Yamaha SCSI CD-ReWritable Drive.
From: rcrane@octa4.net.au (Richard A Crane)
On Mon, 15 Nov 1999 12:08:03, "Roland Pinches"
<Roland.Pinches@pmail.net> wrote:
> I have decided that this drive, Yamaha 4416S, doesn't work with WSeB. It
> worked fine with Warp 4.0 but I cannot get past loading the Adaptec driver
> when I have my CDRW powered on (it's an external model). Under Warp 4.0 this
> wasn't a problem :-( Of course it could be the Adaptec SCSI that is the
> problem....
>
> The real bummer is that it works fine under NT. RH 6.0 Linux doesn't seem to
> like it either and disables the unit altogether! A warm boot won't re-enable
> it, I have to power cycle the system for it to be recognised again. Very
odd.
>
> Roly.
>
Have you triple checked your SCSI terminations? I seem to
recall reading a month or so ago someone with a problem like
this (but not on WSeB) which was a faulty cable.
Richard A Crane
Barrister & Solicitor
slightly altered email (anti-spamming) rcrane AT
octa4.net.au
OR rcrane AT attglobal.net
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From: rcrane@octa4.net.au 28-Nov-99 00:49:29
To: All 28-Nov-99 00:25:05
Subj: Re: Please Help with Yamaha SCSI CD-ReWritable Drive.
From: rcrane@octa4.net.au (Richard A Crane)
On Mon, 15 Nov 1999 03:23:01, hernsmodestil@technologist.com
wrote:
> Does anyone Have any experience (good/bad/neither) with these Yamaha
> models under OS/2?
>
> YCRW4416S 4X4X16 SCSI CD-ReWritable Drive
> YCRW6416S 6X4X16 SCSI CD-ReWritable Drive
>
>
Not yet but after I looked around I've ordered the 6416
(delivery next week- along with the rest of a new machine:))
Richard A Crane
Barrister & Solicitor
slightly altered email (anti-spamming) rcrane AT
octa4.net.au
OR rcrane AT attglobal.net
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From: rcrane@octa4.net.au 28-Nov-99 00:50:12
To: All 28-Nov-99 00:25:05
Subj: Re: OS/2 Warp & Windows 98
From: rcrane@octa4.net.au (Richard A Crane)
On Sat, 13 Nov 1999 15:51:03, wbg@hevanet.com (wbg) wrote:
> Boot Manager is the answer, but not the whole answer. For that you must
> have Partition Magic.
NO NO NO NO NO NO!!!!
Boot Manager does not require partition magic!!
Having said that partion Magic can depending on your
configuration make setting things up easier.
Richard A Crane
Barrister & Solicitor
slightly altered email (anti-spamming) rcrane AT
octa4.net.au
OR rcrane AT attglobal.net
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From: rcrane@octa4.net.au 28-Nov-99 00:50:24
To: All 28-Nov-99 00:25:05
Subj: Re: Mouse problems: random clicks
From: rcrane@octa4.net.au (Richard A Crane)
On Thu, 18 Nov 1999 09:07:29, Aaron Lawrence
<aaronl@clear.net.nz> wrote:
> It's PS/2, but as I said doesn't happen in Windows of either flavour, so
> probably not hardware.
> Thanks for the thought.
>
I would not be so quick in dismissing a hardware problem.
OS/2 seems to "stress" components more than the SmallLimp
stuff does - I have found that os/2 stops working
with/starts having problems with harware well before the
Small Limp stuff does (which tends to be only when it stops
catestrophically)
Richard A Crane
Barrister & Solicitor
slightly altered email (anti-spamming) rcrane AT
octa4.net.au
OR rcrane AT attglobal.net
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From: rcrane@octa4.net.au 28-Nov-99 00:50:19
To: All 28-Nov-99 00:25:05
Subj: Re: Athlon & OS/2
From: rcrane@octa4.net.au (Richard A Crane)
On Tue, 16 Nov 1999 19:12:10, "zeppelin@gte.net"
<zeppelin@gte.net> wrote:
> Whelp,
>
> I guess it's time to throw out the ol' Cyrix, and reward a few
> manufacturers for being insightful enough to actually market their
> products as being OS/2 compatible.
>
> The AMD Athlon appears to be a "must". Does anybody have any input as
> to which chipset (AMD Irongate, or otherwise) is best suited to OS/2.
> I've heard that the killer combo is the AMD northgate with the Ali
> southgate. is there any particular reason for this to be "specially"
> sweet?
>
> Anybody making, or preparing to make an Athlon Mobo with SCSI on the
> Mobo?
>
> Matrox's G400 seems to be the best in breed for OS/2 video. Any of these
> g400's have a TV out that fuctions through bios rather than drivers (as
> many of the ATI PC2TV cards did)?
>
> Sound (dirty question, huh?) anybody making a high quality PCI soundcard
> that has good WIN-OS2 drivers?
>
> Thanks!!
>
> --
> "Windows N.T." ........OS/2 for the masses?
>
>
I just finished my research on these issues and ordered
Athlon + ASUSTek K7-M Main Board with Matrox Millenium G400
32 MB SGRAM and Aopen AW230 PCI Sound (plus a few other
bits)
Richard A Crane
Barrister & Solicitor
slightly altered email (anti-spamming) rcrane AT
octa4.net.au
OR rcrane AT attglobal.net
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From: Trevor-Hemsley@dial.pipex.com 28-Nov-99 00:12:20
To: All 28-Nov-99 00:25:05
Subj: Re: cdrom changeover
From: "Trevor Hemsley" <Trevor-Hemsley@dial.pipex.com>
On Sat, 27 Nov 1999 14:21:38 -0500, Albert O. Howard wrote:
->Hi All!
-> I had to replace my old quad speed cdrom drive. Got a Genius
->multimedia 44X. Have it installed but I cannot get it recognized by
->OS/2 fp 9. Have two IDE hd with cdrom setup to be slave on primary ide
->controller.
-> I can get push button on front panel to open and close cdrom drive
->only if I use switch /ATAPI behind IBM1S506.ADD A:0 U:1 for drive.
->Otherwise the cdrom is dead for OS/2.
-> I have installed the latest idedasd.exe from IBM fixpak. No luck.
You need to have the following lines in CONFIG.SYS, some of which may be
there already and some may not.
basedev=ibm1s506.add
basedev=ibmidecd.flt
device=x:\os2\boot\os2cdrom.dmd /q
device=x:\os2\mdos\vcdrom.sys
ifs=x:\os2\boot\cdfs.ifs /q
As a first attempt, remove ALL switches from the IBM1S506.ADD line and let
it autodetect things.
Trevor Hemsley, London, UK
(Trevor-Hemsley@dial.pipex.com or 75704.2477@compuserve.com)
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From: glen@rockyhorror.Zkaroo.co.uk 28-Nov-99 01:03:12
To: All 28-Nov-99 00:25:05
Subj: Re: OS/2 Warp & Windows 98
From: glen@rockyhorror.Zkaroo.co.uk (Glen D)
On Sun, 28 Nov 1999 00:50:24, rcrane@octa4.net.au (Richard A Crane)
wrote:
> On Sat, 13 Nov 1999 15:51:03, wbg@hevanet.com (wbg) wrote:
>
> > Boot Manager is the answer, but not the whole answer. For that you must
> > have Partition Magic.
> NO NO NO NO NO NO!!!!
>
> Boot Manager does not require partition magic!!
>
> Having said that partion Magic can depending on your
> configuration make setting things up easier.
>
>
> Richard A Crane
> Barrister & Solicitor
> slightly altered email (anti-spamming) rcrane AT
> octa4.net.au
> OR rcrane AT attglobal.net
He'll need Partition Magic if he wants to add Boot Manager to a drive
since it requires its own partition. After that Partition Magic can
be deleted.
Glen D
-<remove Z from my e-mail Address>-
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From: kenzur@swbell.net 27-Nov-99 19:07:05
To: All 28-Nov-99 00:25:05
Subj: Re: Does FIXPAK 12 include previous fixpaks
From: "J. Ken Zur" <kenzur@swbell.net>
The problem is; 1) Dialup (PPP) reports failed protocol. My attempts to use
my ADSL shows AOK, i.e., an ip address is issued, I also get my DNS's (3ea),
but all attempts to ping anything other than my issued IP address fails
(Times out). Also, I don't understand why my "domain" is not filled-in in
the RESOL2.
I'm stumped. No idea what so ever. Help.......
Ken
--
Is Microsoft a Tiger?
There once was a lady from Niger
Who smiled as she rode on a Tiger
They returned from the ride
With the lady inside
And the smile on the face of the Tiger.
Luc Van Bogaert <luc.vanbogaert.nospam@pandora.be> wrote in message
news:yhpinaobtnregcnaqbenor.flv7y70.pminews@news.pandora.be...
| On Fri, 26 Nov 1999 09:52:24 -0600, J. Ken Zur wrote:
|
| >I'm having problems getting my internet connection working under Warp 4.
I
| >was told to install fixpak 12, which did not fix the problem. Question -
| >Does FP12 include all the earlier FP's? Do I need file/print sharing
| >installed to access the internet? Shouldn't I have some form of LAN
| >software? Microsoft has "client for MS networks", what does OS/2 use?
|
| Give more info on the problem. What exactly isn't working? Do you use
dial-up connection, cable, ...?
| If you use a dial-up connection you don't have to install file/print
sharing.
|
| All Fixpaks are cummulative, which means you only have to install the
latest fixpak.
|
|
| Luc Van Bogaert
| I was at Warpstock '99...
| Visit www.warpstock.org for the most important OS/2 event of the year
|
|
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From: jdc0014@InfoNET.st-johns.nf.ca 28-Nov-99 02:54:03
To: All 28-Nov-99 00:25:06
Subj: Matrox Millenium II PCI vs. AOpen AW35 ISA
From: jdc0014@InfoNET.st-johns.nf.ca (John Hong)
Just got a Matrox Millenium II PCI card and so far am loving it.
However, I have discovered a problem in conjunction with my AOpen AW35
Pro ISA soundcard (Crystal Semiconductor chipset). Ok, I install the
Matrox drivers (2.31.00, the card's BIOS is already at v1.5, BTW).
Everything is working fine. Now, when I install the soundcard driver,
bang, Win-OS/2 is gone. It just doesn't load up. Now here is the weird
part, if I install the MGA GRADD driver than I get Win-OS/2 back again.
Has anyone else seen a problem like that? Not that I am complaining
since as long as it works is fine by me, but I would prefer the Matrox
drivers mainly for its Win-OS/2 performance.
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From: piquant00@uswestmail.net 28-Nov-99 02:37:08
To: All 28-Nov-99 00:25:06
Subj: Re: Waht to do with *.xdk files in fixpaks
From: piquant00@uswestmail.net (Annie K.)
On Sat, 27 Nov 1999 21:42:04, "Jeff Malka" <malkajef@orthohelp.com>
wrote:
> Ok, I downloaded fixpak 12 which consisted of a bunch of *.xdk files. None
> of them are executables.
>
> What do I do with them? How does one apply the fixpak?
Download the READMEs that should be in the same place you downloaded
FP12, and read them.
--
Klaatu barada nikto
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From: alberth@ibm.net 27-Nov-99 22:38:11
To: All 28-Nov-99 04:44:28
Subj: Re: cdrom changeover
From: "Albert O. Howard" <alberth@ibm.net>
Trevor Hemsley wrote:You need to have the following lines in CONFIG.SYS, some
of which may be
> there already and some may not.
>
> basedev=ibm1s506.add
> basedev=ibmidecd.flt
> device=x:\os2\boot\os2cdrom.dmd /q
> device=x:\os2\mdos\vcdrom.sys
> ifs=x:\os2\boot\cdfs.ifs /q
>
> As a first attempt, remove ALL switches from the IBM1S506.ADD line and let
> it autodetect things.
>
Thanks for the suggestion.
I checked my config.sys. Had all lines except for mdos etc.
I tried rebooting again to allow autodetect after adding mdos\vcdrom and again
with full hardware detection. No improvement.
With no switches behind the IBM1S506.ADD the front panel switches again do not
open and shut tray.
I have autoenabled master and slave detection for ide controllers on the
motherboard bios also to no effect.
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From: lsunley@mb.sympatico.ca 28-Nov-99 06:22:19
To: All 28-Nov-99 04:44:28
Subj: Re: Does FIXPAK 12 include previous fixpaks
From: lsunley@mb.sympatico.ca (Lorne Sunley)
I've heard reports that the GA version of the TCP/IP stack
(the one from the Warp 4 CD-ROM) has problems with the
handling of DHCP.
Try obtaining the WR8610 update to MPTS and see if that will
improve things.
URL
ftp://ftp.software.ibm.com/ps/products/mpts/fixes/english-us/wr08610_c
onv/
This is a complete replacement for the MPTS component and it's
32 bit and supposedly faster than the GA MPTS.
Lorne Sunley
On Sun, 28 Nov 1999 01:07:11, "J. Ken Zur" <kenzur@swbell.net> wrote:
> The problem is; 1) Dialup (PPP) reports failed protocol. My attempts to use
> my ADSL shows AOK, i.e., an ip address is issued, I also get my DNS's (3ea),
> but all attempts to ping anything other than my issued IP address fails
> (Times out). Also, I don't understand why my "domain" is not filled-in in
> the RESOL2.
>
> I'm stumped. No idea what so ever. Help.......
>
> Ken
>
>
> --
> Is Microsoft a Tiger?
>
> There once was a lady from Niger
> Who smiled as she rode on a Tiger
> They returned from the ride
> With the lady inside
> And the smile on the face of the Tiger.
> Luc Van Bogaert <luc.vanbogaert.nospam@pandora.be> wrote in message
> news:yhpinaobtnregcnaqbenor.flv7y70.pminews@news.pandora.be...
> | On Fri, 26 Nov 1999 09:52:24 -0600, J. Ken Zur wrote:
> |
> | >I'm having problems getting my internet connection working under Warp 4.
> I
> | >was told to install fixpak 12, which did not fix the problem. Question -
> | >Does FP12 include all the earlier FP's? Do I need file/print sharing
> | >installed to access the internet? Shouldn't I have some form of LAN
> | >software? Microsoft has "client for MS networks", what does OS/2 use?
> |
> | Give more info on the problem. What exactly isn't working? Do you use
> dial-up connection, cable, ...?
> | If you use a dial-up connection you don't have to install file/print
> sharing.
> |
> | All Fixpaks are cummulative, which means you only have to install the
> latest fixpak.
> |
> |
> | Luc Van Bogaert
> | I was at Warpstock '99...
> | Visit www.warpstock.org for the most important OS/2 event of the year
> |
> |
>
>
--
Lorne Sunley
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From: lsunley@mb.sympatico.ca 28-Nov-99 06:24:13
To: All 28-Nov-99 04:44:28
Subj: Re: cdrom changeover
From: lsunley@mb.sympatico.ca (Lorne Sunley)
On Sun, 28 Nov 1999 03:38:23, "Albert O. Howard" <alberth@ibm.net>
wrote:
>
>
> Trevor Hemsley wrote:You need to have the following lines in CONFIG.SYS,
some
> of which may be
>
> > there already and some may not.
> >
> > basedev=ibm1s506.add
> > basedev=ibmidecd.flt
> > device=x:\os2\boot\os2cdrom.dmd /q
> > device=x:\os2\mdos\vcdrom.sys
> > ifs=x:\os2\boot\cdfs.ifs /q
> >
> > As a first attempt, remove ALL switches from the IBM1S506.ADD line and let
> > it autodetect things.
> >
>
> Thanks for the suggestion.
> I checked my config.sys. Had all lines except for mdos etc.
> I tried rebooting again to allow autodetect after adding mdos\vcdrom and
again
> with full hardware detection. No improvement.
> With no switches behind the IBM1S506.ADD the front panel switches again do
not
> open and shut tray.
> I have autoenabled master and slave detection for ide controllers on the
> motherboard bios also to no effect.
>
Try adding in the
basedev=ibmatapi.flt
line as well as the others...
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Lorne Sunley
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From: "ihammes"@suffolk.lib,ny.us 28-Nov-99 01:38:02
To: All 28-Nov-99 04:44:28
Subj: XFREE86/OS2 install problem
From: ian <"ihammes"@suffolk.lib,ny.us>
using warp 4 with fixpack 12.
the checkinstall.cmd reports that i have set up the system properly
(except for man files).
When I run XF86Config i get error sys2070
p.s i have linux setup and running properly on a separate partition.
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From: retsiemynnaht@spammoc.beoohaygon... 28-Nov-99 06:01:04
To: All 28-Nov-99 10:27:19
Subj: Re: Huge EA file
Message sender: retsiemynnaht@spammoc.beoohaygone.net
From: "Mike Ruskai" <retsiemynnaht@spammoc.beoohaygone.net>
On Sat, 27 Nov 1999 13:48:14 +0000, Wolf Kirchmeir wrote:
>Ihave a 28MB EA file on my boot partition. It was about 2.5-3MB, then I had
>an automatic reboot (bec. of a badly seated card, which did wierd things
>until I fixed it), and since then the EA file has been enormous.
>
>Can I fix this?
You can start by running CHKDSK /F on the FAT partition in question.
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- Mike
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From: glen@rockyhorror.Zkaroo.co.uk 28-Nov-99 13:27:05
To: All 28-Nov-99 14:37:28
Subj: Re: Waahooooo !! Then oh sh*t
From: glen@rockyhorror.Zkaroo.co.uk (Glen D)
On Wed, 24 Nov 1999 14:39:50, johnsom7@my-deja.com wrote:
> Well I finally got Java installed.!! It was because I hadn't set Netscape
to
> be the default browser!!!! After I finished the installation of JVM I
> rebooted,
>
>
> BUT the computer won't reboot.!!!! It gets as far as displaying the
> desktop background and then comes back to a black screen with the writing
>
> "The locked file device driver is loaded"
>
> What does this mean and how can I get around it ?
>
> Cheers!!
>
>
> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> Before you buy.
There's an entry in your CONFIG.SYS that loads the 'locked file device
driver'. It appears that this device driver isn't finding the locked
files its looking for, perhaps. You could REM out the CONFIG.SYS
entry (I forget what it looks like but I think it may be the very
first line). You might want to reinstall Java, though, since the
installation obviously failed somewhere.
Glen D
-<remove Z from my e-mail Address>-
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From: hernsmodestil@technologist.com 28-Nov-99 14:12:21
To: All 28-Nov-99 14:37:28
Subj: Help Warp 3. Lost System Setup Objects.
From: hernsmodestil@technologist.com
Can anyone please help me. In the SystemSetup folder, the Icons/Objects
listed bellow have lost their links to the programs they are supposed to
run. I can't install the drivers for my new SCSI card, the "Device Driver
Install" object has lost it's icon since it no longer points to an
executable. Can anyone please look at their settings for these objects
and provide the names of the programs associated with these objects so
that I can edit the properties of these object and point them to their
proper executable.
"Device Driver Install"
"Selective Install"
"Selective UnInstall"
"Add Programs"
"DDNS configuration"
DHCP Monitor"
"Adapters and Protocol Services"
"Create Utility Diskettes"
Your help is greatly appreciated.
Thanks.
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From: hernsmodestil@technologist.com 28-Nov-99 15:37:03
To: All 28-Nov-99 14:37:29
Subj: Re: Please Help with Yamaha SCSI CD-ReWritable Drive.
From: hernsmodestil@technologist.com
In <382f7ba2$2$ureafzbqrfgvy$mr2ice@news5.bellatlantic.net>, on 11/15/99
at 03:23 AM, hernsmodestil@technologist.com said:
>Does anyone Have any experience (good/bad/neither) with these Yamaha
>models under OS/2?
>YCRW4416S 4X4X16 SCSI CD-ReWritable Drive
>YCRW6416S 6X4X16 SCSI CD-ReWritable Drive
>e-mail replies are greatly appreciated.
>
I got the YCR6416S, but now I've got problems installing the SCSI drivers.
Can anyone please help me. In the SystemSetup folder, the Icons/Objects
listed bellow have lost their links to the programs they are supposed to
run. I can't install the drivers for my new SCSI card, the "Device Driver
Install" object has lost it's icon since it no longer points to an
executable. Can anyone please look at their settings for these objects
and provide the names of the programs associated with these objects so
that I can edit the properties of these object and point them to their
proper executable.
"Device Driver Install"
"Selective Install"
"Selective UnInstall"
"Add Programs"
"DDNS configuration"
"DHCP Monitor"
"Adapters and Protocol Services"
"Create Utility Diskettes"
Your help is greatly appreciated.
Thanks.
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From: abrahams@sparc.isl.net 28-Nov-99 10:09:13
To: All 28-Nov-99 14:37:29
Subj: Re: Help Warp 3. Lost System Setup Objects.
From: "Lionel C. Abrahams" <abrahams@sparc.isl.net>
On Sun, 28 Nov 1999 14:12:42 GMT, hernsmodestil@technologist.com
wrote:
>
>Can anyone please help me. In the SystemSetup folder, the Icons/Objects
>listed bellow have lost their links to the programs they are supposed to
>run. I can't install the drivers for my new SCSI card, the "Device Driver
>Install" object has lost it's icon since it no longer points to an
>executable. Can anyone please look at their settings for these objects
>and provide the names of the programs associated with these objects so
>that I can edit the properties of these object and point them to their
>proper executable.
>
>"Device Driver Install"
>"Selective Install"
>"Selective UnInstall"
>"Add Programs"
>"DDNS configuration"
>DHCP Monitor"
>"Adapters and Protocol Services"
>"Create Utility Diskettes"
>
>Your help is greatly appreciated.
>
>Thanks.
>
From my WARP4 system although I doubt the program names have
changed, but their location
might have. Suggest you use FIND for their location on WARP3.
>"Device Driver Install"
\OS2\INSTALL\DDINSTAL.EXE
>"Selective Install"
\OS2\INSTALL\INSTALL.EXE
>"Selective UnInstall"
\OS2\INSTALL\UNINSTAL.EXE
>"Add Programs"
\OS2\INSTALL\MIGRATE.EXE
>"DDNS configuration"
\mptn\bin\ddnscfg.exe
>DHCP Monitor"
DHCPMON.EXE
>"Adapters and Protocol Services"
\ibmcom\mpts.exe
>"Create Utility Diskettes"
\OS2\INSTALL\BOOTDISK.EXE
Hope this helps
...Posted with PMINews 2.00.1200
using OS/2 WARP4 @FP12
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From: lsunley@mb.sympatico.ca 28-Nov-99 16:15:10
To: All 28-Nov-99 14:37:29
Subj: Re: Please Help with Yamaha SCSI CD-ReWritable Drive.
From: lsunley@mb.sympatico.ca (Lorne Sunley)
On Sun, 28 Nov 1999 15:37:07, hernsmodestil@technologist.com wrote:
> In <382f7ba2$2$ureafzbqrfgvy$mr2ice@news5.bellatlantic.net>, on 11/15/99
> at 03:23 AM, hernsmodestil@technologist.com said:
>
> >Does anyone Have any experience (good/bad/neither) with these Yamaha
> >models under OS/2?
>
> >YCRW4416S 4X4X16 SCSI CD-ReWritable Drive
> >YCRW6416S 6X4X16 SCSI CD-ReWritable Drive
>
> >e-mail replies are greatly appreciated.
> >
>
> I got the YCR6416S, but now I've got problems installing the SCSI drivers.
> Can anyone please help me. In the SystemSetup folder, the Icons/Objects
> listed bellow have lost their links to the programs they are supposed to
> run. I can't install the drivers for my new SCSI card, the "Device Driver
> Install" object has lost it's icon since it no longer points to an
> executable. Can anyone please look at their settings for these objects
> and provide the names of the programs associated with these objects so
> that I can edit the properties of these object and point them to their
> proper executable.
>
> "Device Driver Install"
Program Object - Path and file name
c:\os2\install\ddinstal.exe
> "Selective Install"
Program Object - Path and file name
c:\os2\install\install.exe
> "Selective UnInstall"
Program Object - Path and file name
c:\os2\install\uninstal.exe
> "Add Programs"
Program Object - Path and file name
c:\os2\install\migrate.exe
> "DDNS configuration"
Program Object - Path and file name
ddnscfg.exe
> "DHCP Monitor"
Program Object - Path and file name
dhcpmon.exe
> "Adapters and Protocol Services"
Program Object - Path and file name
mpts.exe
> "Create Utility Diskettes"
Program Object - Path and file name
c:\os2\install\bootdisk.exe
>
> Your help is greatly appreciated.
>
Have fun...
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From: piquant00@uswestmail.net 28-Nov-99 15:39:24
To: All 28-Nov-99 14:37:29
Subj: Re: Help Warp 3. Lost System Setup Objects.
From: piquant00@uswestmail.net (Annie K.)
On Sun, 28 Nov 1999 14:12:42, hernsmodestil@technologist.com wrote:
> Can anyone please help me. In the SystemSetup folder, the Icons/Objects
> listed bellow have lost their links to the programs they are supposed to
> run. I can't install the drivers for my new SCSI card, the "Device Driver
> Install" object has lost it's icon since it no longer points to an
> executable. Can anyone please look at their settings for these objects
> and provide the names of the programs associated with these objects so
> that I can edit the properties of these object and point them to their
> proper executable.
>
> "Device Driver Install"
x:\os2\install\ddinstal.exe, where "x" is your boot drive, naturally.
> "Selective Install"
x:\os2\install\install.exe
> "Selective UnInstall"
x:\os2\install\uninstal.exe
> "Add Programs"
x:\os2\install\migrate.exe
> "DDNS configuration"
x:\MPTN\BIN\DDNSCFG.EXE
> DHCP Monitor"
x:\MPTN\BIN\DHCPMON.EXE
> "Adapters and Protocol Services"
> "Create Utility Diskettes"
x:\IBMCOM\MPTS.EXE
I've assumed Warp 4 here.
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From: hernsmodestil@technologist.com 28-Nov-99 17:25:12
To: All 28-Nov-99 16:57:22
Subj: Re: Please Help with Yamaha SCSI CD-ReWritable Drive.
From: hernsmodestil@technologist.com
In <qpkdVVNoMoTk-pn2-BLqdLK1FNzyY@tcpserver>, on 11/28/99
at 04:15 PM, lsunley@mb.sympatico.ca (Lorne Sunley) said:
>Have fun...
>--
>Lorne Sunley
Thank You Lorne, that did the trick.
I was able to install the drivers, rebooted and confirmed OS/2 regonized
the new drive.
Next I will try to record an Audio CD.
Thanks again for your help.
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From: hernsmodestil@technologist.com 28-Nov-99 17:46:10
To: All 28-Nov-99 16:57:23
Subj: Re: Help Warp 3. Lost System Setup Objects.
From: hernsmodestil@technologist.com
In <noenunzffcnepvfyarg.flwy3r2.pminews@news.isl.net>, on 11/28/99
at 10:09 AM, "Lionel C. Abrahams" <abrahams@sparc.isl.net> said:
In <dfFEdd0PJcDF-pn2-WXKwYWdQWFjd@vcn19.pm3-1.chey.wy.vcn.com>, on
11/28/99
at 03:39 PM, piquant00@uswestmail.net (Annie K.) said:
Lionel and Annie thank you for the tips. Apparently they apply to Warp 3
as well.
I was able to install the drivers, rebooted and confirmed OS/2 recognized
the new drive.
Next I will try to record an Audio CD.
Thanks again for your help.
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From: mfbear@nospamplease.earthlink.net 28-Nov-99 12:29:10
To: All 28-Nov-99 16:57:23
Subj: Cyrix GX based machine; TRAP 000e
From: Matt Bear <mfbear@nospamplease.earthlink.net>
Hello all.
I have a Cyrix based machine here that I want to use as a webserver on
my home LAN. Each time I try to get Warp 4 installed on it, I get a
TRAP 000E at a different point in the install process. Originally I
couldn't get past disk 2, then disk 3, now I can't get it to go at all.
The machine has a Cyrix GX 166, revision 3.2, 16MB of RAM, and a 4.3GB
Seagate IDE drive. There are several integrated pheripherals on the
motherboard, but all have been disabled (no sound, serial, or parallel
ports, only onboard video).
I have tried the direct floppy install as well as a remote install with
an old 3COM card adn gotten the same results each time.
The RAM worked fine in another machine I have here, so I don't think
it's bad.
Has anyone been able to get os/2 to install on a Cyrix based system, or
am I just wasting my time?
Thanks!
Matt
mfbear AT earthlink DOT net
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From: pcguido@attglobal.net 28-Nov-99 18:13:26
To: All 28-Nov-99 16:57:23
Subj: Re: How do you "fix-up" an HPFS partition to boot?
From: pcguido@attglobal.net
Trevor,
Doesn't "the complete boot partition must be in the first 2 GB" rule
still apply?
Guido
In <geribeurzfyrlqvnycvcrkpbz.flbgv80.pminews@news.dial.pipex.com>, "Trevor
Hemsley" <Trevor-Hemsley@dial.pipex.com> writes:
|On Tue, 16 Nov 1999 08:08:41 -0800, Greg Christopher wrote:
|
|-|I thought I had my new 15 gig IDE working, but after I xcopied all the
|-|files
|-|to the new G drive using xcopy, it wouldn't boot.
|-|
|-|The kernal and loader were there too; they just don't seem to be in the
|-|right
|-|place.
|-|
|-|What I need is something like what the SYS command does for DOS/Windows,
|-|but only for OS/2. I am afraid these two key hidden files are not in the
|-|right location on the HPFS partition.
|
|Not needed really. Boot records are built into the HPFS file system and
|are put there when you format the partition. The only time I can think of
|that you might need to run SYSINSTX.COM to replace them is if you are
|using Warp 3 and don't have a recent fixpack version of UHPFS.DLL in your
|LIBPATH when you format the drive. Running SYSINSTX in this situation from
|an OS/2 system that has a version of UHPFS.DLL from fixpack 37 or higher
|should make it work (fixpack 37 may not be needed but that was the one I
|used when I tested). Warp 4 has the fix in it at base level.
|
|You need to use XCOPY s: t: /H/O/T/S/E/R/V to do the copy in the first
|place BTW.
|
|
|Trevor Hemsley, London, UK
|(Trevor-Hemsley@dial.pipex.com or 75704.2477@compuserve.com)
|
|
|
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From: pcguido@attglobal.net 28-Nov-99 18:23:18
To: All 28-Nov-99 16:57:23
Subj: Re: OS/2 and ATI Rage Fury AGP
From: pcguido@attglobal.net
In <8197b3$ari$1@coranto.ucs.mun.ca>, jdc0014@InfoNET.st-johns.nf.ca (John
Hong) writes:
|Dan Spisak/Marcia Trial (dspisak@ccnet.com) wrote:
|: The ATI website has a driver for the Mach64 card with Rage II/II+ chip.
|: The file is OS2-V31.EXE. Also, download OS2-V31.TXT.
|
| There are newer drivers available. Go to Hobbes and get the latest
|drivers. RAGEPRO.ZIP is the file name, these are done by IBM.
|
Just remember that the Rage Fury is based on the Rage128 chip, not the
Mach64 variant RageII/II+/III. I don't thing that RAGEPRO.ZIP is going
to help anybody trying to run a RageFury under OS/2.
Guido
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From: alberth@ibm.net 28-Nov-99 13:39:20
To: All 28-Nov-99 16:57:23
Subj: Re: cdrom changeover
From: "Albert O. Howard" <alberth@ibm.net>
Lorne Sunley wrote:
> On Sun, 28 Nov 1999 03:38:23, "Albert O. Howard" <alberth@ibm.net>
> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > Trevor Hemsley wrote:You need to have the following lines in CONFIG.SYS,
some
> > of which may be
> >
> > > there already and some may not.
> > >
> > > basedev=ibm1s506.add
> > > basedev=ibmidecd.flt
> > > device=x:\os2\boot\os2cdrom.dmd /q
> > > device=x:\os2\mdos\vcdrom.sys
> > > ifs=x:\os2\boot\cdfs.ifs /q
> > >
> > > As a first attempt, remove ALL switches from the IBM1S506.ADD line and
let
> > > it autodetect things.
> > >
> >
> > Thanks for the suggestion.
> > I checked my config.sys. Had all lines except for mdos etc.
> > I tried rebooting again to allow autodetect after adding mdos\vcdrom and
again
> > with full hardware detection. No improvement.
> > With no switches behind the IBM1S506.ADD the front panel switches again do
not
> > open and shut tray.
> > I have autoenabled master and slave detection for ide controllers on the
> > motherboard bios also to no effect.
> >
>
> Try adding in the
>
> basedev=ibmatapi.flt
>
> line as well as the others...
>
> --
>
> Lorne Sunley
I should have said so but I started with that line as I had a working cdrom
drive
installed before it died a natual death--sounded like ball bearings. I've
also
tried Dania's driver. But I tried it again- IBMATAPI.FLT. Again I had no
success.
Thanks again. Al Howard
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From: c.k.christacopoulos.REMOVEME@dun... 28-Nov-99 20:28:10
To: mfbear@nospamplease.earthlink.net 28-Nov-99 16:57:23
Subj: Re: Cyrix GX based machine; TRAP 000e
Message sender: c.k.christacopoulos.REMOVEME@dundee.ac.uk
To: Matt Bear <mfbear@nospamplease.earthlink.net>
From: Charles Christacopoulos <c.k.christacopoulos.REMOVEME@dundee.ac.uk>
Matt Bear wrote:
>
> Hello all.
>
> I have a Cyrix based machine here that I want to use as a webserver on
> my home LAN. Each time I try to get Warp 4 installed on it, I get a
> TRAP 000E at a different point in the install process. Originally I
> couldn't get past disk 2, then disk 3, now I can't get it to go at all.
The book I have here (for Warp 3) says that you should disable external
memory cache.
I say disable all cacheing and similar "performance type features".
> The machine has a Cyrix GX 166, revision 3.2, 16MB of RAM, and a 4.3GB
> Seagate IDE drive. There are several integrated pheripherals on the
> motherboard, but all have been disabled (no sound, serial, or parallel
> ports, only onboard video).
PArallel serial you should be able to leave on
> I have tried the direct floppy install as well as a remote install with
> an old 3COM card adn gotten the same results each time.
I would remove the card.
> The RAM worked fine in another machine I have here, so I don't think
> it's bad.
Combination of motherboard and memory though?
> Has anyone been able to get os/2 to install on a Cyrix based system, or
> am I just wasting my time?
I never heard it does not work but never tried it.
Regards
Charles
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From: kenzur@swbell.net 28-Nov-99 14:45:21
To: All 28-Nov-99 16:57:23
Subj: Re: Does FIXPAK 12 include previous fixpaks
From: "J. Ken Zur" <kenzur@swbell.net>
YES! Thank You VERRRRY much. That WAS the fix, WR8610 did it. I knew I could
count
on this news group and its users to get me through this.
Thanks again
Ken Zur
Lorne Sunley wrote:
> I've heard reports that the GA version of the TCP/IP stack
> (the one from the Warp 4 CD-ROM) has problems with the
> handling of DHCP.
>
> Try obtaining the WR8610 update to MPTS and see if that will
> improve things.
>
> URL
> ftp://ftp.software.ibm.com/ps/products/mpts/fixes/english-us/wr08610_c
> onv/
>
> This is a complete replacement for the MPTS component and it's
> 32 bit and supposedly faster than the GA MPTS.
>
> Lorne Sunley
>
> On Sun, 28 Nov 1999 01:07:11, "J. Ken Zur" <kenzur@swbell.net> wrote:
>
> > The problem is; 1) Dialup (PPP) reports failed protocol. My attempts to
use
> > my ADSL shows AOK, i.e., an ip address is issued, I also get my DNS's
(3ea),
> > but all attempts to ping anything other than my issued IP address fails
> > (Times out). Also, I don't understand why my "domain" is not filled-in in
> > the RESOL2.
> >
> > I'm stumped. No idea what so ever. Help.......
> >
> > Ken
> >
> >
> > --
> > Is Microsoft a Tiger?
> >
> > There once was a lady from Niger
> > Who smiled as she rode on a Tiger
> > They returned from the ride
> > With the lady inside
> > And the smile on the face of the Tiger.
> > Luc Van Bogaert <luc.vanbogaert.nospam@pandora.be> wrote in message
> > news:yhpinaobtnregcnaqbenor.flv7y70.pminews@news.pandora.be...
> > | On Fri, 26 Nov 1999 09:52:24 -0600, J. Ken Zur wrote:
> > |
> > | >I'm having problems getting my internet connection working under Warp
4.
> > I
> > | >was told to install fixpak 12, which did not fix the problem. Question
-
> > | >Does FP12 include all the earlier FP's? Do I need file/print sharing
> > | >installed to access the internet? Shouldn't I have some form of LAN
> > | >software? Microsoft has "client for MS networks", what does OS/2 use?
> > |
> > | Give more info on the problem. What exactly isn't working? Do you use
> > dial-up connection, cable, ...?
> > | If you use a dial-up connection you don't have to install file/print
> > sharing.
> > |
> > | All Fixpaks are cummulative, which means you only have to install the
> > latest fixpak.
> > |
> > |
> > | Luc Van Bogaert
> > | I was at Warpstock '99...
> > | Visit www.warpstock.org for the most important OS/2 event of the
year
> > |
> > |
> >
> >
>
> --
>
> Lorne Sunley
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From: jdb@juliand.com 28-Nov-99 15:11:29
To: fritzo@humboldt.net 28-Nov-99 16:57:23
Subj: Re: scsi install 101
To: Fritz Oppliger <fritzo@humboldt.net>
From: Julian Dominic <jdb@juliand.com>
Fritz Oppliger wrote:
> Trying to "quickly throw" a warp3 installation onto this box...
>
> BLANK HD
> install disk, disk 1(...11), Warp3 CD
> SCSI CDROM.
>
> The installation procedure never seems to see the CDrom. At floppy #3 I
> get a trap0d.
>
> How /when should it switch to SCSI CDROM?
>
> Any hints appreciated...
>
>
> fritzo@humboldt.net(Fritz Oppliger) KE6VDA
It should switch right after all the of the drivers load during the black
screen "loading system files." This tells me that the drivers for the SCSI
and/or the CDROM have not been loaded. Do you get any indication that SCSI
drivers were loaded right after the BIOS loaded? After my BIOS is loaded I
get a message that allows me configure the SCSI devices. Do you get this.
I have an Adaptec SCSI board. I assume that your card is supported the
base Warp 3. If it is not and is supported later, you probably have to
download the fixpak where that support becomes possible and find the new
drivers.
Good luck
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From: henk.kelder@capgemini.nl 27-Nov-99 23:24:19
To: All 28-Nov-99 19:47:00
Subj: Re: Desktop problems: the way out, but a new problem
From: "Henk Kelder" <henk.kelder@capgemini.nl>
There is a way to solve this...
Using rexx create a new desktop. If you are unable to let me know, I'll mail
you a program that can do this...
Then reboot and use ALT-F1 to get to boot menu. Go for a command prompt...
In the command prompt to the following:
- remove the ea's from the desktop
- remove the ea's from the new desktop to a file
- put the ea's from the new desktop to the active desktop.
you can use EAUTIL to do this. Read the online manuals...
Henk
> But for one thing.
> Not my desktiop is WP_Folder, not WP_Desktop, and I therefore lack
> some menues. Checkini does not help. What to do? According to
> EaBrowser, there is not other folder that is WP_Desktop.
>
> Thanks,
>
> / Jan
>
>
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From: greywolf@onlink.net 28-Nov-99 17:53:15
To: All 28-Nov-99 19:47:01
Subj: Re: Huge EA file
From: "Wolf Kirchmeir" <greywolf@onlink.net>
On Sun, 28 Nov 1999 00:17:05 +0000 (GMT), Trevor Hemsley wrote:
=>On Sat, 27 Nov 1999 13:48:14 +0000, Wolf Kirchmeir wrote:
=>
=>->Ihave a 28MB EA file on my boot partition. ...snip..=>
=>CHKDSK /F will remove any orphan EA's and reduce the size of the file if
=>any are misallocated. If it doesn't help then you really have that number
=>of EAs. The problem comes because each file that has an EA will allocate a
=>cluster of disk space to hold that EA. Each file that has more than one EA
=>will share the same cluster with the other EAs for that file (up until the
=>total exceeds the cluster size when another cluster will be allocated).
=>Separate files do not share EA clusters and each has its own.
=>
=>On a FAT partition greater than 1GB the cluster size is 32KB so your 28MB
=>EA DATA. SF file means that you have approximately 890 files with an EA.
=>
=>
=>Trevor Hemsley, London, UK
=>(Trevor-Hemsley@dial.pipex.com or 75704.2477@compuserve.com)
=>
=>
=>
I did a CHKDSK /F on it, but it reduced the EA file by about 1MB only. Since
this system partition had a much smaller EA .SF file before the semi-crash, I
think the file has been corrupted soemhow -- ie, it contains a lot of
garbage, or maybe duplicate entries or something.
So I think I still have a problem....
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From: glen@rockyhorror.Zkaroo.co.uk 28-Nov-99 22:44:19
To: All 28-Nov-99 19:47:01
Subj: Re: Java CLASSPATH
From: glen@rockyhorror.Zkaroo.co.uk (Glen D)
On Sat, 27 Nov 1999 12:22:43, "Rade Popovic" <rascho@nospam.iname.com>
wrote:
> Hi!
>
> Can somebody tell me what should I put in my CLASSPATH variable,
> because I don't have one, and what is it for (I know Java use it but my
> seem to work without it).
> One other thing. When updating my Java runtime I download file called
> runtime.exe. Now I have also downloaded file called os2jre.exe (from
> same directory) and in readme it says "IBM(R) OS/2 WARP RUNTIME
> ENVIRONMENT, JAVA(TM) TECHNOLOGY EDITION". os2jre.exe installs itself
> in jre11 directory. What is the difference between those two?
>
> TIA
>
> Rascho
> e-mail:rascho@iname.com
> ICQ# 49354974
>
> ------------------------
> Hal 9000: "Dave, put those Windows disks down....Dave...DAVE!"
>
>
I recommend you get the runtime from IBM's Software Choice site
(http://techsupport.services.ibm.com/asd-bin/doc/en_us/catalog.htm).
The file is JAVAINRT.EXE and comes with its own installer.
Glen D
-<remove Z from my e-mail Address>-
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From: jdb@juliand.com 28-Nov-99 15:19:16
To: All 28-Nov-99 19:47:01
Subj: Re: OS/2 Warp & Windows 98
From: Julian Dominic <jdb@juliand.com>
Peter Drumm wrote:
> In message <38360953.B0D40A84@juliand.com> - Julian Dominic
> <jdb@juliand.com>Fri, 19 Nov 1999 20:37:07 -0600 writes:
> :->
>
> :->Here's how I did my setup. As someone else said, you need bootmanager
> :->and Partition Manager. The order of installation is important. (At
> :->least in my case; if you want to use just Partition Manager, it might
> :->work to install Windows and add OS/2.) The reason for this observation
> :->is that when you install Windows on a operating system windows get
> :->really annoyed if it discovers another operating system. It claims boot
> :->manager won't work. I can't boot Windows from bootmanager. I use
> :->partition manager for switching. Bootmanager doesn't point to
> :->command.com.
> <snip>
> :->You need Partition Magic to switch back and forth.
>
> Something isn't right with your setup. I can boot Win95, OS/2, BeOS
> and Linux all from Boot Manager on my desktop box, and I boot OS/2 and
> Win98 on my notebook the same way. OS/2 is installed in logical drives
> on both machines.
>
> Custom machining; Tool & Cutter grinding
> Peter Drumm, Wausau WI <pdrumm@dwave.net>
> <http://home.dwave.net/~pdrumm>
> Cyrix6x86/300 MII, OS/2 Warp 4, Linux
I think you're right. I only defined the Linux partition to Partition Magic
and I didn't make the Win98 partition bootable. Oh well, it works for now.
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From: lsunley@mb.sympatico.ca 28-Nov-99 21:40:16
To: All 28-Nov-99 19:47:01
Subj: Re: cdrom changeover
From: lsunley@mb.sympatico.ca (Lorne Sunley)
On Sun, 28 Nov 1999 18:39:40, "Albert O. Howard" <alberth@ibm.net>
wrote:
>
>
> Lorne Sunley wrote:
>
> > On Sun, 28 Nov 1999 03:38:23, "Albert O. Howard" <alberth@ibm.net>
> > wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > Trevor Hemsley wrote:You need to have the following lines in CONFIG.SYS,
some
> > > of which may be
> > >
> > > > there already and some may not.
> > > >
> > > > basedev=ibm1s506.add
> > > > basedev=ibmidecd.flt
> > > > device=x:\os2\boot\os2cdrom.dmd /q
> > > > device=x:\os2\mdos\vcdrom.sys
> > > > ifs=x:\os2\boot\cdfs.ifs /q
> > > >
> > > > As a first attempt, remove ALL switches from the IBM1S506.ADD line and
let
> > > > it autodetect things.
> > > >
> > >
> > > Thanks for the suggestion.
> > > I checked my config.sys. Had all lines except for mdos etc.
> > > I tried rebooting again to allow autodetect after adding mdos\vcdrom and
again
> > > with full hardware detection. No improvement.
> > > With no switches behind the IBM1S506.ADD the front panel switches again
do not
> > > open and shut tray.
> > > I have autoenabled master and slave detection for ide controllers on the
> > > motherboard bios also to no effect.
> > >
> >
> > Try adding in the
> >
> > basedev=ibmatapi.flt
> >
> > line as well as the others...
> >
> > --
> >
> > Lorne Sunley
>
> I should have said so but I started with that line as I had a working cdrom
drive
> installed before it died a natual death--sounded like ball bearings. I've
also
> tried Dania's driver. But I tried it again- IBMATAPI.FLT. Again I had no
success.
>
> Thanks again. Al Howard
>
Some of the higher speed CD-ROM drives won't work
as slaves with some hard drives.
Try configuring the machine with the two HD on
the primary channel and the CD-ROM as
master on the second channel.
I ran into this with a 36X CD-ROM and one 40X
model. Both were some kind of generic re-badged
drives so I don't know the manufacturer.
--
Lorne Sunley
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From: bghtwthbld@aol.com 28-Nov-99 22:47:04
To: All 28-Nov-99 19:47:01
Subj: Re: HELP 8gig hd
From: bghtwthbld@aol.com (BghtWthBld)
Ok thanks>
>The classic 4GB limitation needs the classic fix
>
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From: kenzur@swbell.net 28-Nov-99 17:11:09
To: All 28-Nov-99 19:47:01
Subj: Soundblaster Live
From: "J. Ken Zur" <kenzur@swbell.net>
Has anyone seen any kind (Any kind) of support for the Creative
"SoundBlaster Live! sound card?
Just hoping...
Ken
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From: htravis@ibm.net 28-Nov-99 18:07:16
To: All 28-Nov-99 19:47:01
Subj: Re: cdrom changeover
From: htravis@ibm.net (Harry Travis)
In <qpkdVVNoMoTk-pn2-fFdbZOmwzukn@tcpserver>, on 11/28/99
at 09:40 PM, lsunley@mb.sympatico.ca (Lorne Sunley) said:
>On Sun, 28 Nov 1999 18:39:40, "Albert O. Howard" <alberth@ibm.net>
>wrote:
>>
>>
>> Lorne Sunley wrote:
>>
>> > On Sun, 28 Nov 1999 03:38:23, "Albert O. Howard" <alberth@ibm.net>
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > Trevor Hemsley wrote:You need to have the following lines in
CONFIG.SYS, some
>> > > of which may be
>> > >
>> > > > there already and some may not.
>> > > >
>> > > > basedev=ibm1s506.add
>> > > > basedev=ibmidecd.flt
>> > > > device=x:\os2\boot\os2cdrom.dmd /q
>> > > > device=x:\os2\mdos\vcdrom.sys
>> > > > ifs=x:\os2\boot\cdfs.ifs /q
>> > > >
>> > > > As a first attempt, remove ALL switches from the IBM1S506.ADD line
and let
>> > > > it autodetect things.
>> > > >
>> > >
>> > > Thanks for the suggestion.
>> > > I checked my config.sys. Had all lines except for mdos etc.
>> > > I tried rebooting again to allow autodetect after adding mdos\vcdrom
and again
>> > > with full hardware detection. No improvement.
>> > > With no switches behind the IBM1S506.ADD the front panel switches again
do not
>> > > open and shut tray.
>> > > I have autoenabled master and slave detection for ide controllers on
the
>> > > motherboard bios also to no effect.
>> > >
>> >
>> > Try adding in the
>> >
>> > basedev=ibmatapi.flt
>> >
>> > line as well as the others...
>> >
>> > --
>> >
>> > Lorne Sunley
>>
>> I should have said so but I started with that line as I had a working cdrom
drive
>> installed before it died a natual death--sounded like ball bearings. I've
also
>> tried Dania's driver. But I tried it again- IBMATAPI.FLT. Again I had no
success.
>>
>> Thanks again. Al Howard
>>
>Some of the higher speed CD-ROM drives won't work
>as slaves with some hard drives.
>Try configuring the machine with the two HD on
>the primary channel and the CD-ROM as
>master on the second channel.
>I ran into this with a 36X CD-ROM and one 40X
>model. Both were some kind of generic re-badged
>drives so I don't know the manufacturer.
Gossip from a different hardware newsgroup: Indeed, some ide hardware is
out of spec, and works only as "master" or is a poor "master" to another
device's slave. Some mfgs (or oems) even specify that the hdw device
should be installed as "master."
My experience:
But, how about your MB rombios settings? Fiddling them sometimes helps,
as some allow you to specify the type of device attached, instead of
auto-detecting. Maybe the rombios has been told NOT to look for
anything attached. It happens, whether you did or not.
-----------------------------------------------------------
htravis@ibm.net (Harry Travis)
DemostiX
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From: Trevor-Hemsley@dial.pipex.com 28-Nov-99 21:09:23
To: All 28-Nov-99 21:13:18
Subj: Re: cdrom changeover
From: "Trevor Hemsley" <Trevor-Hemsley@dial.pipex.com>
On Sat, 27 Nov 1999 22:38:23 -0500, Albert O. Howard wrote:
->I tried rebooting again to allow autodetect after adding mdos\vcdrom and
again
->with full hardware detection. No improvement.
->With no switches behind the IBM1S506.ADD the front panel switches again do
not
->open and shut tray.
->I have autoenabled master and slave detection for ide controllers on the
->motherboard bios also to no effect.
Now add the /W switch to IBM1S506.ADD and see what it reports when you
boot up. The /W switch has it issue verbose messages and then stop after
each one to let you read it (only available with the copy from idedasd.exe
or later). See if the CD is listed there or if it's missing completely.
Trevor Hemsley, London, UK
(Trevor-Hemsley@dial.pipex.com or 75704.2477@compuserve.com)
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From: Trevor-Hemsley@dial.pipex.com 28-Nov-99 21:10:23
To: All 28-Nov-99 21:13:18
Subj: Re: How do you "fix-up" an HPFS partition to boot?
From: "Trevor Hemsley" <Trevor-Hemsley@dial.pipex.com>
On 28 Nov 1999 18:13:53 GMT, pcguido@attglobal.net wrote:
->Doesn't "the complete boot partition must be in the first 2 GB" rule
->still apply?
No. It's 8GB (1024 cylinders).
Trevor Hemsley, London, UK
(Trevor-Hemsley@dial.pipex.com or 75704.2477@compuserve.com)
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From: edb@earthling.net.spamout 29-Nov-99 01:29:15
To: All 29-Nov-99 03:35:22
Subj: Warp 4 FixPak install help needed
From: edb@earthling.net.spamout (EdB (remove .spamout when replying))
I just downloaded the lastest FixPak for Warp 4. After hours of
reading and trying to install the FixPak, I'm left boggled.
Can someone please tell me how to install this durn thing?
Ciao for now,
--EdB <edb@earthling.net.spamout>
*** remove .spamout when replying ***
http://www.geocities.com/endered
http://www.geocities.com/travelinged
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From: kenzur@swbell.net 28-Nov-99 21:25:07
To: All 29-Nov-99 03:35:22
Subj: Re: Warp 4 FixPak install help needed
From: "J. Ken Zur" <kenzur@swbell.net>
There are a couple of approachs, but the simplist is, assuming you have
all the files and they are "LOADDSKF" to floppies and OS/2 is up and
running;
Run SERVICE Ver 1.4x, it will prompt for the local of the fixpak
diskettes or files (I used the diskettes). Feed all the disks per the
prompts. byw - "Service" must also be downloaded, it is not part of
OS/2. So, you may/will need to get that first.
Ken
"EdB (remove .spamout when replying)" wrote:
> I just downloaded the lastest FixPak for Warp 4. After hours of
> reading and trying to install the FixPak, I'm left boggled.
>
> Can someone please tell me how to install this durn thing?
>
> Ciao for now,
>
> --EdB <edb@earthling.net.spamout>
> *** remove .spamout when replying ***
> http://www.geocities.com/endered
> http://www.geocities.com/travelinged
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From: dink@dontspamme.com 29-Nov-99 03:14:19
To: All 29-Nov-99 10:04:15
Subj: Re: Real Audio 5 and Matrox Drivers?
From: "dinkmeister" <dink@dontspamme.com>
On Mon, 29 Nov 1999 04:18:54 GMT, No spam, please wrote:
>I have very recently replaced my video card with a Matrox Millennium
>G400. Everything seems to run fine in OS/2 and Win-OS/2 with one
>glaring exception: The Real Audio player, version 5, aborts with an
>"application error" (and takes down all other applications in running
>in the same VDM) whenever I start it. It previously worked well, and
>the only thing I've changed with my system is the video card and its
>drivers, so I have to assume that it's allergic to something with the
>drivers. I'm using version 2.31.100 (26 August 1999, the latest
>available) of the Matrox drivers, with Warp 3 FP 35.
>
>Oddly enough, I just tried Real Audio version 3, which seems to work
>fine.
>
>Any ideas?
try this:
edit win.ini in \os2\mdos\winos2 and under the "[drawdib]" section, add
"DVA=0" and then edit system.ini and remove this line: "device=dva.386"
it solved the problem for me. =)
regards,
- dink ( http://dink.org )
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From: fisa@jet.uk 29-Nov-99 08:51:02
To: All 29-Nov-99 10:04:15
Subj: QUESTION: OBJECTDESKTOP ON WSEB?
From: filippo sartori <fisa@jet.uk>
HI
I tried to install Object Desktop 2.0 on Workspace for e-business.
I failed. Did anybody succeeded?
Is it incompatible?
Regards
Filippo Sartori
Please mail me also.
Thanks
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From: cocke@catherders.com 29-Nov-99 06:26:05
To: All 29-Nov-99 10:04:16
Subj: Re: QUESTION: OBJECTDESKTOP ON WSEB?
From: Michael W. Cocke <cocke@catherders.com>
What's "Workspace for e-business"? If you meant "Warp Server for
E-Business", I've installed OD 2.0 on it. It doesn't work real well -
there's a real nifty way to crash a WSeB system dead in it (use Object
Navigator) - but most of it works. Stardock doesn't want to hear about
it, so I don't want to hear about Stardock anymore.
On Mon, 29 Nov 1999 08:51:05 +0000, filippo sartori wrote:
>HI
>I tried to install Object Desktop 2.0 on Workspace for e-business.
>I failed. Did anybody succeeded?
>Is it incompatible?
>
>Regards
>
>Filippo Sartori
>
>Please mail me also.
>
>Thanks
>
>
>
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From: jag12@_nospam_le.ac.uk 29-Nov-99 11:13:06
To: All 29-Nov-99 10:04:16
Subj: Re: Soundblaster Live
From: Dr J A Gow <jag12@_nospam_le.ac.uk>
Forget it. Creative dropped support for OS/2 officially with the
AWE32, although a patched driver for the AWE64 is available which
works well for some people. Anything >AWE64 = no support from
Creative.
"J. Ken Zur" wrote:
>
> Has anyone seen any kind (Any kind) of support for the Creative
> "SoundBlaster Live! sound card?
>
> Just hoping...
>
> Ken
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From: jag12@_nospam_le.ac.uk 29-Nov-99 11:16:29
To: All 29-Nov-99 10:04:16
Subj: Re: Soundblaster Live
From: Dr J A Gow <jag12@_nospam_le.ac.uk>
I forgot to mention, however, that I heard a rumour that Creative
had released the source to the SBLive driver. It may be possible
to port it, but some work would be required.
"J. Ken Zur" wrote:
>
> Has anyone seen any kind (Any kind) of support for the Creative
> "SoundBlaster Live! sound card?
>
> Just hoping...
>
> Ken
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From: Stefan.Pelz@orthogon.de 29-Nov-99 17:55:28
To: All 29-Nov-99 16:52:20
Subj: PCMCIA and Adaptec SlimSCSI Card
From: Stefan Pelz <Stefan.Pelz@orthogon.de>
Hi all,
I finally got the new IBM PC-Card support (PC Card Director)
installed on my notebook, It recognises the socket controller but
refuses to accept the SlimSCSI (alias AHA 1460D) card.
The driver provided by adaptec (BASEDEV=AHA152X.ADD)
seems to load (at least is doesn't complain). The card is inserted
when the machine is booting.
I understand that the Card Director uses .SCR files to identify
and configure the cards. I tried to create one for the Adaptec card,
but it requires the manufacturer ID and some other things I don't know.
Anyone tried this before?
--
Regards,
Stefan
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From: osmo.vuorio@sonera.fi 29-Nov-99 18:12:02
To: All 29-Nov-99 16:52:20
Subj: Re: PCMCIA and Adaptec SlimSCSI Card
From: osmo.vuorio@sonera.fi (osmo vuorio)
In article <3842B01C.10EE20DB@orthogon.de>, Stefan Pelz
<Stefan.Pelz@orthogon.de> says:
>I finally got the new IBM PC-Card support (PC Card Director)
>installed on my notebook, It recognises the socket controller but
>refuses to accept the SlimSCSI (alias AHA 1460D) card.
Adactec pcmcia card may prefer the Irq10.
Osmo
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From: steve53_remove_this@earthlink.net 29-Nov-99 10:55:03
To: All 29-Nov-99 16:52:21
Subj: Re: QUESTION: OBJECTDESKTOP ON WSEB?
From: steve53_remove_this@earthlink.net
In <81uaa1$89011@imsp212.netvigator.com>, on 11/30/99
at 12:40 AM, "Kelvin Tsang" <ktkelvin@yahoo.com> said:
>You mean the Warp Server for e-business ?
>I am using it with OD 2.0, just follow the
>installation instruction, and it works fine
>here. (Except the Drive Navigator, it sometimes
>cause WPS freeze, so I removed this feature now).
Also, don't install Object Advisor during a fresh install. You need to
selective install it later.
HTH,
Steven
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Steven Levine <steve53removethis@earthlink.net> MR2/ICE 2.01 #10183
Warp4/FP11
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From: zayne@omen.com.au 29-Nov-99 17:00:25
To: All 29-Nov-99 16:52:21
Subj: Re: K6-3 at 500mhz
From: zayne@omen.com.au (Mooo)
jdc0014@InfoNET.st-johns.nf.ca (John Hong) wrote:
> K6-3's are going to be eventually phased out from the looks of
>things. AMD looks like they will make a K6-2+ which is something like
>the K6-3, but instead of a 256k cache it will only have a 128k cache.
>The reason you have never seen any AMD K6-3 500Mhz CPU's for instence is
>because AMD was afraid it would eat into their Athlon 500Mhz sales. AMD
>is really pushing hard for the Athlon. They may keep the K6-3 around but
>probably only for laptops.
>
Which will effectively mean the end of Socket 7 I think. I have not
seen a new Cyrix in ages, though I know they are still sold, I just
wonder to whom?
Craig
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From: djohnson@isomedia.com 29-Nov-99 09:53:00
To: All 29-Nov-99 16:52:21
Subj: Re: Sound Cards and OS/2 (Creative PCI 128?)
From: "David T. Johnson" <djohnson@isomedia.com>
Jim Danvers wrote:
>
> Thanks for the response Tom...
>
> I'm becoming increasingly frustrated with the OS (OS/2) in general. :(
It's to
> bad too - I ran it back "in the day" when bbs's and FidoNet were the way
that
> computer geeks communicated and it was a superb platform for the hardware
and
> software that was available at the time. Now... I have twice the
processing
> power, 8 times the hard disk space and memory, yet I can't get it (OS/2) to
run
> all of my periphals (or even install in some cases) with the PC's that I
have
> around here,
The OS/2 v3 blue spine is pretty dated. But...you can still install it
and use it if you are willing to do a fair bit of work to update the
installation disks for new disk drives and controllers, apply fixpacks
for TCP/IP, device drivers, and OS/2 base install, and then diligently
search for hardware drivers and compatible hardware. Everyone has to
make their own decision as to the value to making this sort of effort.
My own experience is that Windows 9x installs are easier to do but when
you get all done with the install you are left with...Windows. The time
you save in the initial Win9x OS install is likely to be expended many,
many times in effort to deal with subsequent software issues. By way of
example, one nasty habit that Win9x apps have is writing numerous DLLs
to the Windows/system directory where they eventually create conflicts
and problems requiring complete reinstallation of the OS (Win9x users
call this a 'clean install.') If you go to uninstall one of these Win9x
apps, it will likely interrogate you frequently during the uninstall
asking if you want to delete such-and-such shared .DLL file. And the
answers are not easy. Delete the wrong file and you can break other
apps. Never delete and your Window/system directory fills up quickly
with garbage. My opinion is that Windows needs about 10 hours of
maintenance for every 1 hour expended on OS/2 maintenance, all other
things being equal. And this is being kind to Windows.
Unfortunately, as others pointed out, there are no OS/2 drivers for a
Creative PCI 128. OS/2 PCI sound drivers do exist for Aureal Vortex 1
cards, ESS Solo 1 cards, C-media, and Crystal-based cards.
> and unfortunately the outlook for it continues to spiral downward.
> On the other side of the coin though, the MS product (9x-NT) all install and
run
> with all of my hardware with a minimal of issue. {sigh} I'm spec'ing out a
new
> PC - guess that I'm just going to have to take my time, do some research on
ALL
> of the peripherals that I would like to use with it, and ensure that
everything
> that I choose will work with Linux & OS/2 - Win compatibility is a no
brainer -
> you ~know~ it'll work.
>
> -=- J.D. -=-
>
> tom wrote:
>
> > Jim Danvers wrote:
> >
> > > Hi guys...
> > >
> > > I just installed Warp 3 (blue spine) and am trying (hoping) to get audio
> > > running on this box - it has a Creative Labs Sound Blaster PCI 128 card
in
> > > it and I have not been able to locate any info on getting it running as
> > > yet. I'm dual booting this box @present w/Win95 and the audio card
works
> > > fine.
> > >
> > > Anyone have any pointers or suggestions?
> > >
> > > Thanks in advance....
> > >
> > > -=- J.D. -=-
> >
> > Good luck, unless it comes with OS/2 drivers you are
> > out of luck. There are very few PCI devices that
> > comes with them.
> >
> > Tom Street
> > 920-693-2824
> >
> > S E M C O
> > Street Electric Manufacturing Company
> > Mfg. of the QuadJoy mouse for quadriplegics
> > and people with high mobility impairments.
> >
> > see it at http://www.quadjoy.com
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From: alex@eddie.cis.uoguelph.ca 29-Nov-99 16:44:11
To: All 29-Nov-99 16:52:21
Subj: Re: Warp 4 FixPak install help needed
From: alex@eddie.cis.uoguelph.ca (Alex Taylor)
On 29 Nov 1999 01:29:30 GMT, EdB (remove .spamout when replying)
<edb@earthling.net.spamout> wrote:
> I just downloaded the lastest FixPak for Warp 4. After hours of
> reading and trying to install the FixPak, I'm left boggled.
>
> Can someone please tell me how to install this durn thing?
There are many different ways. The default one described in IBM's
CSF documentation (using diskettes) is probably the most painful one
possible for large FixPaks.
This is how I do it...
First, download DSKXTRCT, which lets you extract the downloaded image
files to a hard drive directory:
ftp://hobbes.nmsu.edu/pub/os2/system/patches/fixpack/dskxtr12.zip
Unzip this and place DSKXTRCT.EXE somewhere in your path.
Place all the downloaded fixpak files (XR_M012.?DK) into one directory,
e.g. C:\TEMP. Create an empty directory (e.g. C:\FIXPAKS) and run
(assuming the above directories):
DXKXTRCT /s:C:\TEMP\XR_M012* /t:C:\FIXPACKS
Tell it to replace all files when prompted.
Now the fixpak contents should be extracted under C:\FIXPAKS.
Obtain CSF_141 from IBM's fixpak site if you haven't already, and
unzip it into the same fixpak directory, e.g. C:\FIXPAKS. (Or you
can unzip it somewhere in your PATH if you want.)
Now you're ready to apply the fixpak. If you're willing to accept IBM's
default settings for the archive directory and confirmations (probably
best if this is your first time), just type the following command, from
the directory where CSF 1.41 was unzipped:
FSERVICE /R:RESPONSE.WP4 /S:<fixpak directory>
Where <fixpak directory> is wherever you extracted the images, e.g.
C:\FIXPAKS. Follow the prompts. Always choose to replace files when
prompted (unless the fixpak README file explicitly says not to).
Close all programs before doing this! It might be safer to do this
step when booted to command prompt only, although I'm rarely so
careful myself.
Alternatively, you can use the graphical service tool, which makes you
enter archive and backup directories yourself. To do this, say:
SET CSFCDROMDIR=<fixpak directory> <-- very important!
SERVICE.EXE
and follow the prompts. Again, close all programs first (but you must be
booted to the desktop to use this option).
This sounds like a lengthy description, but it's actually a fairly simple
procedure. The main complication is getting and using DSKXTRCT. This is
necessary because IBM's image extraction utility only seems capable of
extracting to floppies, not to the hard drive. Also, DSKXTRCT performs
CRC checking on the image files; useful if you had a corrupt download.
As for alternative methods... Some people swear by RSU, which lets you
apply the fix right over the Web. I've never tried it myself, but you
probably need a fast connection.
Also, you can get FixPak CDs from a number of places, which do most of the
above for you in advance, and even wrap it in a nice easy installation
shell if you're lucky. IBM's technical connection provides them, for
registered partners. You can also order similar things cheaply from
BMT Micro, the OS/2 SuperSite, and Indelible Blue.
--
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Alex Taylor BA - CIS - University of Guelph
alex@eddie.cis.uoguelph.ca http://eddie.cis.uoguelph.ca/~alex
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From: Trevor-Hemsley@dial.pipex.com 29-Nov-99 00:56:11
To: All 29-Nov-99 16:52:21
Subj: Re: Huge EA file
From: "Trevor Hemsley" <Trevor-Hemsley@dial.pipex.com>
On Sun, 28 Nov 1999 17:53:31 +0000, Wolf Kirchmeir wrote:
->I did a CHKDSK /F on it, but it reduced the EA file by about 1MB only. Since
->this system partition had a much smaller EA .SF file before the semi-crash,
I
->think the file has been corrupted soemhow -- ie, it contains a lot of
->garbage, or maybe duplicate entries or something.
->
->So I think I still have a problem....
How big is the partition and how many files do you have on it?
Trevor Hemsley, London, UK
(Trevor-Hemsley@dial.pipex.com or 75704.2477@compuserve.com)
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From: jdc0014@InfoNET.st-johns.nf.ca 29-Nov-99 19:39:28
To: All 29-Nov-99 16:52:21
Subj: Re: K6-3 at 500mhz
From: jdc0014@InfoNET.st-johns.nf.ca (John Hong)
Mooo (zayne@omen.com.au) wrote:
: Which will effectively mean the end of Socket 7 I think. I have not
: seen a new Cyrix in ages, though I know they are still sold, I just
: wonder to whom?
Cyrix was bought out by VIA (whom also bought out the WinChip
division from IDT). Socket 7 is pretty much dead in terms of future
upgradability, but I wouldn't look at it with doom or gloom. I say bravo
for AMD and Cyrix for going against the grain and sticking things out
with socket 7 whose live really lasted much longer than Intel ever had
imagined.
Cyrix under the guise of VIA will be putting out a socket 370
processor, BTW.
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From: doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net 29-Nov-99 19:34:01
To: All 29-Nov-99 16:52:21
Subj: Re: How do you "fix-up" an HPFS partition to boot?
From: doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net (Doug Bissett)
On Sun, 28 Nov 1999 21:10:46, "Trevor Hemsley"
<Trevor-Hemsley@dial.pipex.com> wrote:
> On 28 Nov 1999 18:13:53 GMT, pcguido@attglobal.net wrote:
>
> ->Doesn't "the complete boot partition must be in the first 2 GB" rule
> ->still apply?
>
> No. It's 8GB (1024 cylinders).
>
>
> Trevor Hemsley, London, UK
> (Trevor-Hemsley@dial.pipex.com or 75704.2477@compuserve.com)
>
Or, 768 mb, or 1 gig, or 2 gig, or 4.3 gig, or 8 gig. It all depends
on exactly what the BIOS supports, on the disk in question. The rule
is "The first 1024 cylinders", which can be different amounts of data,
depending, exactly, how the BIOS supports the disk.
******************************
From the PC of Doug Bissett
doug.bissett at attglobal.net
The " at " must be changed to "@"
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From: doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net 29-Nov-99 19:34:01
To: All 29-Nov-99 16:52:21
Subj: Re: Fixpak 42 installation -- Warp 3
From: doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net (Doug Bissett)
On Mon, 29 Nov 1999 16:29:56, ziggy29@pacbell.net (Tim Irvin) wrote:
>
> I'm having trouble getting this to work.
>
> I'm trying to do an installation using the "SERVICE" command
> (not with disks or through RSU; RSU is not an option over a
> 33.6 modem connection, IMO).
>
> I have all of the .zip files (xr_w042*.zip); I have cs_141.exe
> as well.
>
> I'm trying to follow the instructions for
> "Download and unzip files manually" as listed in
> http://ps.boulder.ibm.com/pbin-usa-ps/getobj.pl?/pdocs-usa/softupd.html.
>
> I have extracted cs_141.exe to c:\csf141 by running
> "cs_141 c:\csf141". I created that directory before running it.
>
> I have unzipped all the FP42 zip files to c:\fp42. They all
> unzipped successfully and there were about 20 of them.
>
> I then issued the following commands:
>
> cd c:\csf141
> set csfutilpath=c:\csf141
> set csfcdromdir=c:\fp42
> service
>
> And the CSF utility comes back telling me that there is nothing
> serviceable to update. (There was no prior fixpak on this
> installation.)
>
> As far as I can tell, what I have done is exactly following the
> instructions to the letter (except for the location of the
> directories, which shouldn't matter).
>
> Any ideas?
>
> --
> Tim Irvin, ziggy29@pacbell.net
>
> "Trouble no one about their religion; respect others in their view, and
> demand that they respect yours...Abuse no one and nothing, for abuse
> turns the wise ones to fools and robs the spirit of its vision."
> -- Tecumseh (1768-1813), Shawnee chief and statesman
Fix pack 42 does not apply to warp3 (not connect), it only applies to
the server version (and connect, I think). What you need is a package
that was posted to HOBBES, a while back (sorry, I don't remember what
it is called). This package "fools" the fix pack install, into
thinking the correct version of OS/2 is installed, and the fix pack
will install. Your other option, is to get FP40, which was the last
one that applied to warp3, without the extras.
Hope this helps...
******************************
From the PC of Doug Bissett
doug.bissett at attglobal.net
The " at " must be changed to "@"
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From: lsunley@mb.sympatico.ca 29-Nov-99 19:43:10
To: All 29-Nov-99 16:52:21
Subj: Re: Fixpak 42 installation -- Warp 3
From: lsunley@mb.sympatico.ca (Lorne Sunley)
On Mon, 29 Nov 1999 16:29:56, ziggy29@pacbell.net (Tim Irvin) wrote:
>
> I'm having trouble getting this to work.
>
<snip all relating to FP42 file setup>
You have set up the directories and everything else
correctly.
The real problem is that FP for Warp 3 past number 40
can only be applied to Warp Server (which is based on
Warp 3). The fixpacks > 40 check the syslevel.os2 file to
determine if the system is Warp 3 or Warp Server
and will not install if the system is Warp 3.
FP 40 is the latest that will install on Warp 3
without some semi-nefarious workarounds
that have been discussed in the newsgroups.
These workarounds "may" result in a non-working
system.
--
Lorne Sunley
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From: rhinton@mediaone.net 29-Nov-99 14:09:15
To: All 29-Nov-99 16:52:21
Subj: Re: OS/2 and ATI Rage Fury AGP
From: "Richard Hinton" <rhinton@mediaone.net>
<pcguido@attglobal.net> wrote in message news:38417329_4@news1.prserv.net...
> In <8197b3$ari$1@coranto.ucs.mun.ca>, jdc0014@InfoNET.st-johns.nf.ca (John
Hong) writes:
> |Dan Spisak/Marcia Trial (dspisak@ccnet.com) wrote:
> |: The ATI website has a driver for the Mach64 card with Rage II/II+ chip.
> |: The file is OS2-V31.EXE. Also, download OS2-V31.TXT.
> |
> | There are newer drivers available. Go to Hobbes and get the latest
> |drivers. RAGEPRO.ZIP is the file name, these are done by IBM.
> |
>
> Just remember that the Rage Fury is based on the Rage128 chip, not the
> Mach64 variant RageII/II+/III. I don't thing that RAGEPRO.ZIP is going
> to help anybody trying to run a RageFury under OS/2.
So I take it that the ATI Rage Fury card, is NOT compatible with OS-2. Is
this
situation likely to change?
Richard N. Hinton
rhinton@mediaone.net
>
> Guido
>
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From: glen@rockyhorror.Zkaroo.co.uk 29-Nov-99 20:15:10
To: All 29-Nov-99 16:52:21
Subj: Re: OS/2 Warp & Windows 98
From: glen@rockyhorror.Zkaroo.co.uk (Glen D)
On Mon, 29 Nov 1999 16:25:12, rcrane@octa4.net.au (Richard A Crane)
wrote:
> On Sun, 28 Nov 1999 01:03:24, glen@rockyhorror.Zkaroo.co.uk
> (Glen D) wrote:
>
> > On Sun, 28 Nov 1999 00:50:24, rcrane@octa4.net.au (Richard A Crane)
> > wrote:
> >
> > > On Sat, 13 Nov 1999 15:51:03, wbg@hevanet.com (wbg) wrote:
> > >
> > > > Boot Manager is the answer, but not the whole answer. For that you
must
> > > > have Partition Magic.
> > > NO NO NO NO NO NO!!!!
> > >
> > > Boot Manager does not require partition magic!!
> > >
> > > Having said that partion Magic can depending on your
> > > configuration make setting things up easier.
> > >
> > >
> > > Richard A Crane
> > > Barrister & Solicitor
> > > slightly altered email (anti-spamming) rcrane AT
> > > octa4.net.au
> > > OR rcrane AT attglobal.net
> >
> > He'll need Partition Magic if he wants to add Boot Manager to a drive
> > since it requires its own partition. After that Partition Magic can
> > be deleted.
> >
> > Glen D
> > -<remove Z from my e-mail Address>-
> No he does not.
> Fdisk the drive in question creating the partitions he
> wants then procede from there , restoreing stuff to the
> delleted partitions as required
> Richard A Crane
> Barrister & Solicitor
> slightly altered email (anti-spamming) rcrane AT
> octa4.net.au
> OR rcrane AT attglobal.net
Assuming, of course, he's backed up all the important data he plans on
restoring later on. Assuming, of course, he has the ability to back
up all the important data he plans on restoring later on (ie. Zip
drive or CD-R or LS-120 or a spare HDD, etc). Partition Magic is a
lot simpler and quicker, but not necessary.
Glen D
-<remove Z from my e-mail Address>-
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From: dcasey@ibm.net 29-Nov-99 16:52:02
To: All 29-Nov-99 20:08:15
Subj: Re: Warp 4 FixPak install help needed
From: dcasey@ibm.net (Dan Casey)
In article <uiUPpdpwSh9y-pn2-Lf1xH8JKvTdY@localhost>,
edb@earthling.net.spamout (EdB (remove .spamout when replying)) wrote:
>I just downloaded the lastest FixPak for Warp 4. After hours of
>reading and trying to install the FixPak, I'm left boggled.
>
>Can someone please tell me how to install this durn thing?
Go to the VOICE Website at http://www.os2voice.org and click on the
link to EZ Reference. There. you will find detailed instructions and
the utility that you need to install the Fixpak from the files you;ve
already downloaded, from your hard drive. It's not necessary to create
all of the diskettes.
--
**************************************************************
* Dan Casey *
* President *
* V.O.I.C.E. (Virtual OS/2 International Consumer Education *
* http://www.os2voice.org *
* Abraxas on IRC *
* http://members.iquest.net/~dcasey *
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From: maxikins@os2bbs.com 29-Nov-99 23:00:00
To: All 29-Nov-99 21:21:09
Subj: Re: Real Audio 5 and Matrox Drivers?
From: maxikins@os2bbs.com (Mark Klebanoff)
That was it! I knew there was something I did a year ago to get
RealPlayer 5 working but I couldn't remember what it was. It worked
for me too
On Mon, 29 Nov 1999 08:14:38, "dinkmeister" <dink@dontspamme.com>
wrote:
> On Mon, 29 Nov 1999 04:18:54 GMT, No spam, please wrote:
>
> >I have very recently replaced my video card with a Matrox Millennium
> >G400. Everything seems to run fine in OS/2 and Win-OS/2 with one
> >glaring exception: The Real Audio player, version 5, aborts with an
> >"application error" (and takes down all other applications in running
> >in the same VDM) whenever I start it. It previously worked well, and
> >the only thing I've changed with my system is the video card and its
> >drivers, so I have to assume that it's allergic to something with the
> >drivers. I'm using version 2.31.100 (26 August 1999, the latest
> >available) of the Matrox drivers, with Warp 3 FP 35.
> >
> >Oddly enough, I just tried Real Audio version 3, which seems to work
> >fine.
> >
> >Any ideas?
>
> try this:
> edit win.ini in \os2\mdos\winos2 and under the "[drawdib]" section, add
> "DVA=0" and then edit system.ini and remove this line: "device=dva.386"
> it solved the problem for me. =)
>
>
> regards,
> - dink ( http://dink.org )
>
>
>
>
>
>
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From: greywolf@onlink.net 29-Nov-99 19:37:28
To: All 29-Nov-99 21:21:09
Subj: Re: Huge EA file
From: "Wolf Kirchmeir" <greywolf@onlink.net>
On Mon, 29 Nov 1999 00:56:22 +0000 (GMT), Trevor Hemsley wrote:
=>On Sun, 28 Nov 1999 17:53:31 +0000, Wolf Kirchmeir wrote:
=>
=>->I did a CHKDSK /F on it, but it reduced the EA file by about 1MB only.
Since
=>->this system partition had a much smaller EA .SF file before the
semi-crash, I
=>->think the file has been corrupted soemhow -- ie, it contains a lot of
=>->garbage, or maybe duplicate entries or something.
=>->
=>->So I think I still have a problem....
=>
=>How big is the partition and how many files do you have on it?
=>
=>
=>Trevor Hemsley, London, UK
=>(Trevor-Hemsley@dial.pipex.com or 75704.2477@compuserve.com)
=>
=>
=>
Partition is 300MB FAT (8K sectors), with about 3,000 files. It's the boot
partition.
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From: alanp@globalnet.co.uk 29-Nov-99 23:25:15
To: All 29-Nov-99 21:21:10
Subj: OS2 boot disk
From: "Alan Paterson" <alanp@globalnet.co.uk>
I recently tried to reinstall OS2 Warp v3 and found that my setup disk
wouldn't boot. Can anyone help?
Thanks.
Alan.
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From: prnicho@ibm.net 30-Nov-99 00:21:20
To: All 29-Nov-99 21:21:10
Subj: Creative Sound Card driver
From: prnicho@ibm.net (Philip Nicholls)
To me surprise - and glee- I found a driver for the Creative Ensoniq
on the IBM ftp site. Don't know who put it there or if this will help.
I think the file was just called "ensoniq.zip". If you can't find it
let me know - I guess IBM won't mind if I e-mail it to you.
PhilipN
Hong Kong
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From: alberth@ibm.net 29-Nov-99 19:33:18
To: All 29-Nov-99 21:21:10
Subj: Re: cdrom changeover
From: "Albert O. Howard" <alberth@ibm.net>
Trevor Hemsley wrote:
> Now add the /W switch to IBM1S506.ADD and see what it reports when you
> boot up. The /W switch has it issue verbose messages and then stop after
> each one to let you read it (only available with the copy from idedasd.exe
> or later). See if the CD is listed there or if it's missing completely.
>
> OK. Tried that. The output did not show any slave device on either ide
> controller.
The two pages of instructions that came with the cdrom drive do caution one to
select the non-listed ide cd-rom/dvd-rom to install atapi ide interface
'during
system installation!' I really don't want to reinstall my system!
Thanks again for continuing to help. Al Howard
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From: patrick.f@netaccess.co.nz 30-Nov-99 01:08:19
To: All 29-Nov-99 21:21:10
Subj: ea data sf file - a security problem
From: patrick.f@netaccess.co.nz (Patrick Fitzgerald)
I just got a look at some of the things in the <ea data. sf> file. I
was horrified to see things deleted long ago in that file. This is an
obvious security problem.
What can be done about that , the manuals tell me nothing.
Is it safe to delete this file ?
Does OS/2 have any other files that hide deleted stuff?
patricK
Hi Helen Hi Jim
Happy days are here again
patricK
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From: sk8ndude-nospam-@erols.com 30-Nov-99 01:05:15
To: All 29-Nov-99 21:21:10
Subj: Re: OS2 boot disk
From: sk8ndude-nospam-@erols.com (John Rodriguez)
Alan,
you don't say anything about your system, but if you have a large
harddrive (I'm not sure what size Warp 3 considers large) it is
possible that your old install disks won't work. You need to download
new images or update the onese you have with the latest hard drive
support. All this can be found on IBM's DDPack Online.
John
On Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:25:30, "Alan Paterson" <alanp@globalnet.co.uk>
wrote:
> I recently tried to reinstall OS2 Warp v3 and found that my setup disk
> wouldn't boot. Can anyone help?
>
> Thanks.
>
> Alan.
>
>
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From: Roland.Pinches@pmail.net 30-Nov-99 01:34:09
To: All 30-Nov-99 03:28:12
Subj: Re: Problems with CD-RW and Adaptec AIC7890 SCSI
From: "Roland Pinches" <Roland.Pinches@pmail.net>
These are just the default settings (all devices). Since everything works ok,
I see no reason to change them :)
The boot problem was resolved by flashing the CDRW to the latest level
(1.0h).
Roly.
On Fri, 26 Nov 1999 11:16:47 -0800, Darryl Sperber wrote:
>On Wed, 03 Nov 1999 00:52:43 +0000 (GMT), "Roland Pinches"
><Roland.Pinches@pmail.net> wrote:
>
>
>> SCSI Device Configuration:
>> Initiate Sync Negotiation :Yes
>> Max Sync Transfer Rate :80
>> Enable Diconnection :Yes
>> Initiate Wide Negotiation :Yes
>
>Did you ever get your boot problems resolved?
>
>Incidentally... you don't say which device the above definition is for. I'll
>assume it's for your CD-RW device.
>
>Well this is certainly not realistic, although I'd bet the Adaptec card/chip
>and device would figure things out.
>
>But normally, a CD (and CD-RW) drive is only a 10MB max transfer rate. If
you
>had an Ultra CD drive (e.g. from Plextor) that would go up to 20MB. Plextor
>even makes an Ultra-Wide CD now (which would go up to 40MB). I've got 10MB
>set on my real 2940U2W for my Plextor 8X/20X CD-R drive.
>
>Also, there's no point in initiating Wide Negotiation if the device can't
>support it... so mine is set to NO.
>
>
>So... any more progress?
>
>
>--
>//
>// Darryl Sperber (sperber@airmail.net)
>//
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From: dink@dontspamme.com 29-Nov-99 20:10:00
To: All 30-Nov-99 03:28:13
Subj: Re: Real Audio 5 and Matrox Drivers?
From: "dinkmeister" <dink@dontspamme.com>
On Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:01 GMT, Mark Klebanoff wrote:
>That was it! I knew there was something I did a year ago to get
>RealPlayer 5 working but I couldn't remember what it was. It worked
>for me too
Great! glad I could help.. =)
- dink ( http://dink.org )
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From: dmckenn@attglobal.net 29-Nov-99 20:11:13
To: All 30-Nov-99 03:28:13
Subj: Re: Real Audio 5 and Matrox Drivers?
From: "David McKenna" <dmckenn@attglobal.net>
On Mon, 29 Nov 1999 03:14:38 -0500 (EST), dinkmeister wrote:
>
>try this:
>edit win.ini in \os2\mdos\winos2 and under the "[drawdib]" section, add
>"DVA=0" and then edit system.ini and remove this line: "device=dva.386"
>it solved the problem for me. =)
Wish I could say the same... I've used 3 different Matrox cards (Mil 1,
Mil2, and G200) and I have never gotten RealAudio to work reliably with any
of them (using the above 'fix' as well) - GPF's reign. ATI , Elsa and Cirrus
Logic have worked no problem.
I'd be interested in any other tweaks you may know of....
Dave McKenna
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From: Roland.Pinches@pmail.net 30-Nov-99 01:16:18
To: All 30-Nov-99 03:28:13
Subj: Re: Please Help with Yamaha SCSI CD-ReWritable Drive.
From: "Roland Pinches" <Roland.Pinches@pmail.net>
The YCRW4416S is fine with WSeB providing you have the latest flash update on
it (1.0h). I had problems when upgrading from Warp 4.0 to WSeB in that the
boot process wouldn't get past loading AIC78U2.ADD. Updating the firmware to
the latest level fixed the problem and it now works beautifully :)
Roly.
On 28 Nov 1999 00:49:59 GMT, Richard A Crane wrote:
>On Mon, 15 Nov 1999 03:23:01, hernsmodestil@technologist.com
>wrote:
>
>> Does anyone Have any experience (good/bad/neither) with these Yamaha
>> models under OS/2?
>>
>> YCRW4416S 4X4X16 SCSI CD-ReWritable Drive
>> YCRW6416S 6X4X16 SCSI CD-ReWritable Drive
>>
>>
>Not yet but after I looked around I've ordered the 6416
>(delivery next week- along with the rest of a new machine:))
>Richard A Crane
>Barrister & Solicitor
>slightly altered email (anti-spamming) rcrane AT
>octa4.net.au
>OR rcrane AT attglobal.net
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From: dink@dontspamme.com 30-Nov-99 03:22:08
To: All 30-Nov-99 05:19:05
Subj: Re: Real Audio 5 and Matrox Drivers?
From: "dinkmeister" <dink@dontspamme.com>
On Mon, 29 Nov 1999 20:11:27 -0500 (EST), David McKenna wrote:
>On Mon, 29 Nov 1999 03:14:38 -0500 (EST), dinkmeister wrote:
>
>>
>>try this:
>>edit win.ini in \os2\mdos\winos2 and under the "[drawdib]" section, add
>>"DVA=0" and then edit system.ini and remove this line: "device=dva.386"
>>it solved the problem for me. =)
>
> Wish I could say the same... I've used 3 different Matrox cards (Mil 1,
>Mil2, and G200) and I have never gotten RealAudio to work reliably with any
>of them (using the above 'fix' as well) - GPF's reign. ATI , Elsa and Cirrus
>Logic have worked no problem.
Are you using Matrox drivers v2.31? RP works fine with both my mystique
and g200 using the 2.31 drivers and that dva=0 trick. also which fixpak
are you using? 12 here. lastly, try setting files=255 in the winos2
properties.
- dink ( http://dink.org )
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From: martin.brown@pandora.be 30-Nov-99 08:45:15
To: All 30-Nov-99 05:19:05
Subj: Re: Huge EA file
From: Martin Brown <martin.brown@pandora.be>
Wolf Kirchmeir wrote:
> On Mon, 29 Nov 1999 00:56:22 +0000 (GMT), Trevor Hemsley wrote:
>
> =>On Sun, 28 Nov 1999 17:53:31 +0000, Wolf Kirchmeir wrote:
> =>
> =>->I did a CHKDSK /F on it, but it reduced the EA file by about 1MB only.
Since
> =>->this system partition had a much smaller EA .SF file before the
semi-crash, I
> =>->think the file has been corrupted soemhow -- ie, it contains a lot of
> =>->garbage, or maybe duplicate entries or something.
> =>->
> =>->So I think I still have a problem....
> =>
> =>How big is the partition and how many files do you have on it?
>
> =>Trevor Hemsley, London, UK
> =>(Trevor-Hemsley@dial.pipex.com or 75704.2477@compuserve.com)
>
> Partition is 300MB FAT (8K sectors), with about 3,000 files. It's the boot
> partition.
Suggests around 24MB in EAs then. If you *must* use FAT then you could halve
the size
lost to infernal attributes by repartitioning down to 255MB or if there are
lots of
small files have two partitions both of 127MB. If you are feeling brave then
Partition Magic and the like can twiddle with partitions on the fly, but your
EAs
might be mangled in the process. Definitely you need a backup before doing any
radical restructuring. It can even (irreversibly) convert FAT to HPFS.
If your EAs are already corrupted from a crash things may well become
unstable.
Regards,
Martin Brown
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From: nospam@savebandwidth.invalid 30-Nov-99 04:23:22
To: All 30-Nov-99 10:24:19
Subj: Re: ea data sf file - a security problem
From: nospam@savebandwidth.invalid (John Thompson)
In <38432367.15598@news.netaccess.co.nz>, patrick.f@netaccess.co.nz (Patrick
Fitzgerald) writes:
>I just got a look at some of the things in the <ea data. sf> file. I
>was horrified to see things deleted long ago in that file. This is an
>obvious security problem.
>
>What can be done about that , the manuals tell me nothing.
>
>Is it safe to delete this file ?
>
>Does OS/2 have any other files that hide deleted stuff?
"swapper.dat" probably does also. If you're seeing stuff from
deleted files in your "ea data. sf" file you probably need to run
chkdsk /f against the drive to purge the orphaned ea's. Usually
OS/2 will do this itself; did you perhaps delete the files using
a non-EA-aware utility (eg, DOS)?
Yet another reason to use HPFS instead of FAT...
-John (John.Thompson@attglobal.net)
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From: ktkelvin@yahoo.com 30-Nov-99 00:40:28
To: All 30-Nov-99 11:23:03
Subj: Re: QUESTION: OBJECTDESKTOP ON WSEB?
From: "Kelvin Tsang" <ktkelvin@yahoo.com>
You mean the Warp Server for e-business ?
I am using it with OD 2.0, just follow the
installation instruction, and it works fine
here. (Except the Drive Navigator, it sometimes
cause WPS freeze, so I removed this feature now).
Kelvin
--
#-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-#
Hong Kong OS/2 User Group
http://www.os2.org.hk
news://news.freeforum.org/comp.os.os2
#-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-#
filippo sartori <fisa@jet.uk> wrote in message
news:38423E79.52EC5175@jet.uk...
> HI
> I tried to install Object Desktop 2.0 on Workspace for e-business.
> I failed. Did anybody succeeded?
> Is it incompatible?
>
> Regards
>
> Filippo Sartori
>
> Please mail me also.
>
> Thanks
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From: glen@rockyhorror.Zkaroo.co.uk 29-Nov-99 15:29:01
To: All 30-Nov-99 11:23:03
Subj: Re: Soundblaster Live
From: glen@rockyhorror.Zkaroo.co.uk (Glen D)
It's no rumour: http://opensource.creative.com. The source to
AWE32/64 cards is there too.
On Mon, 29 Nov 1999 11:16:59, Dr J A Gow <jag12@_nospam_le.ac.uk>
wrote:
> I forgot to mention, however, that I heard a rumour that Creative
> had released the source to the SBLive driver. It may be possible
> to port it, but some work would be required.
>
> "J. Ken Zur" wrote:
> >
> > Has anyone seen any kind (Any kind) of support for the Creative
> > "SoundBlaster Live! sound card?
> >
> > Just hoping...
> >
> > Ken
>
> --
> _________________
> ______________________________________________________
> | |
> |
> | | Dr. J.A. Gow M.Eng AMIEE |
> | \||/ | Research Associate, Power Electronics Research Group
> |
> | \/ | Leicester University
> |
> | __ 00 | University Road
> |
> | / \/ \_@ | Leicester, UK.
> |
> | | \ |
> |
> | \__/ \ \ | Tel: (0468) 328787
> |
> | / \ /\ | |
> |
> | | \__/ | | email: jag12@le.ac.uk
> |
> | | / |
> |
> | \__ __ / |
> |
> | |||| |
> |
> | __||||__ |
> |
> | <___||___> | ______________________________
> |
> |_________________|________|THIS IS A MICROSOFT-FREE
> ZONE!|______________|
Glen D
-<remove Z from my e-mail Address>-
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From: rcrane@octa4.net.au 29-Nov-99 16:25:06
To: All 30-Nov-99 11:23:03
Subj: Re: OS/2 Warp & Windows 98
From: rcrane@octa4.net.au (Richard A Crane)
On Sun, 28 Nov 1999 01:03:24, glen@rockyhorror.Zkaroo.co.uk
(Glen D) wrote:
> On Sun, 28 Nov 1999 00:50:24, rcrane@octa4.net.au (Richard A Crane)
> wrote:
>
> > On Sat, 13 Nov 1999 15:51:03, wbg@hevanet.com (wbg) wrote:
> >
> > > Boot Manager is the answer, but not the whole answer. For that you must
> > > have Partition Magic.
> > NO NO NO NO NO NO!!!!
> >
> > Boot Manager does not require partition magic!!
> >
> > Having said that partion Magic can depending on your
> > configuration make setting things up easier.
> >
> >
> > Richard A Crane
> > Barrister & Solicitor
> > slightly altered email (anti-spamming) rcrane AT
> > octa4.net.au
> > OR rcrane AT attglobal.net
>
> He'll need Partition Magic if he wants to add Boot Manager to a drive
> since it requires its own partition. After that Partition Magic can
> be deleted.
>
> Glen D
> -<remove Z from my e-mail Address>-
No he does not.
Fdisk the drive in question creating the partitions he
wants then procede from there , restoreing stuff to the
delleted partitions as required
Richard A Crane
Barrister & Solicitor
slightly altered email (anti-spamming) rcrane AT
octa4.net.au
OR rcrane AT attglobal.net
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From: ziggy29@pacbell.net 29-Nov-99 16:29:28
To: All 30-Nov-99 11:23:03
Subj: Fixpak 42 installation -- Warp 3
From: ziggy29@pacbell.net (Tim Irvin)
I'm having trouble getting this to work.
I'm trying to do an installation using the "SERVICE" command
(not with disks or through RSU; RSU is not an option over a
33.6 modem connection, IMO).
I have all of the .zip files (xr_w042*.zip); I have cs_141.exe
as well.
I'm trying to follow the instructions for
"Download and unzip files manually" as listed in
http://ps.boulder.ibm.com/pbin-usa-ps/getobj.pl?/pdocs-usa/softupd.html.
I have extracted cs_141.exe to c:\csf141 by running
"cs_141 c:\csf141". I created that directory before running it.
I have unzipped all the FP42 zip files to c:\fp42. They all
unzipped successfully and there were about 20 of them.
I then issued the following commands:
cd c:\csf141
set csfutilpath=c:\csf141
set csfcdromdir=c:\fp42
service
And the CSF utility comes back telling me that there is nothing
serviceable to update. (There was no prior fixpak on this
installation.)
As far as I can tell, what I have done is exactly following the
instructions to the letter (except for the location of the
directories, which shouldn't matter).
Any ideas?
--
Tim Irvin, ziggy29@pacbell.net
"Trouble no one about their religion; respect others in their view, and
demand that they respect yours...Abuse no one and nothing, for abuse
turns the wise ones to fools and robs the spirit of its vision."
-- Tecumseh (1768-1813), Shawnee chief and statesman
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From: sk8ndude-nospam-@erols.com 30-Nov-99 14:07:18
To: All 30-Nov-99 14:39:12
Subj: Re: XFREE86/OS2 install problem
From: sk8ndude-nospam-@erols.com (John Rodriguez)
I'm no XFree expert, having just about a week of experience...that's
how long it took me to get it running:-) I was able to run XF86Config
with no trouble, however when I got the X window system running, I
couldn't switch back to OS/2 without loosing my mouse pointer.
digging around the news groups I realized that this XFree86
environment is very sensitive to what VGA drivers you are using. I
downloaded and installed the latest SciTech GRADD drivers and my
problems went away. If you are having no luck, repost your question
with VGA info and maybe someone will see a problem.
I'm running XFree86 on a Warp 4 system, with I think FP 11. My VGA
card is S3 968 based. All works fine. Gimp is running well. I wish
I could get SANE working with my scanner though.
Good luck,
John
On Sun, 28 Nov 1999 06:38:05, ian <"ihammes"@suffolk.lib,ny.us> wrote:
> using warp 4 with fixpack 12.
> the checkinstall.cmd reports that i have set up the system properly
> (except for man files).
> When I run XF86Config i get error sys2070
> p.s i have linux setup and running properly on a separate partition.
>
>
>
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From: sk8ndude-nospam-@erols.com 30-Nov-99 14:11:23
To: All 30-Nov-99 14:39:12
Subj: SANE w HP6200C
From: sk8ndude-nospam-@erols.com (John Rodriguez)
Does anyone on this list have a HP6200C working with the latest
version of SANE? My scanner works fine using the CFM Twain drivers,
but I'm having no luck with the SANE package.
If you do have it working PLEASE contact me and let me know how you
did it. For more details you can see my post made to this group last
week: "Scanimage w/HP 6200C not working".
Any help, or even encouragement is appreciated:-),
John
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From: veit@simi.gmd.de 30-Nov-99 14:57:15
To: All 30-Nov-99 14:39:12
Subj: Re: XFREE86/OS2 install problem
From: veit@simi.gmd.de (Holger Veit)
On 30 Nov 1999 14:07:37 GMT, John Rodriguez <sk8ndude-nospam-@erols.com>
wrote:
>I'm no XFree expert, having just about a week of experience...that's
>how long it took me to get it running:-) I was able to run XF86Config
>with no trouble, however when I got the X window system running, I
>couldn't switch back to OS/2 without loosing my mouse pointer.
>digging around the news groups I realized that this XFree86
>environment is very sensitive to what VGA drivers you are using. I
This is already mentionend in the docs. There are well-behaved PM
drivers and, ummmm, less well behaved ones. The latter ones don't
take into account that a full screen session (including a DOS session)
may switch video modes. XFree86 puts this to an extreme, admittedly.
The typical problem is that the PM video driver expects exclusive
ownership of the video RAM, for instance to put the hardware cursor
image or even worse fonts into it. The observed effect then is
loss of the cursor or a (maybe just partially) garbled screen.
XFree86 has no solution to the second problem, the loss of the cursor
can often be fixed by the Option "sw_cursor" mentioned in the docs.
>downloaded and installed the latest SciTech GRADD drivers and my
>problems went away. If you are having no luck, repost your question
>with VGA info and maybe someone will see a problem.
>
>I'm running XFree86 on a Warp 4 system, with I think FP 11. My VGA
>card is S3 968 based. All works fine. Gimp is running well. I wish
>I could get SANE working with my scanner though.
Holger
--
If Microsoft is ever going to produce something that does not suck,
it is very likely a vacuum cleaner.
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From: dljone9@ibm.net 30-Nov-99 05:43:03
To: All 30-Nov-99 14:39:12
Subj: Re: Real Audio 5 and Matrox Drivers?
From: Daniel Jones <dljone9@ibm.net>
Try using the GRADD drivers - it solved the Matrox problem for me.
David McKenna wrote:
>
> On Mon, 29 Nov 1999 03:14:38 -0500 (EST), dinkmeister wrote:
>
> >
> >try this:
> >edit win.ini in \os2\mdos\winos2 and under the "[drawdib]" section, add
> >"DVA=0" and then edit system.ini and remove this line: "device=dva.386"
> >it solved the problem for me. =)
>
> Wish I could say the same... I've used 3 different Matrox cards (Mil 1,
> Mil2, and G200) and I have never gotten RealAudio to work reliably with any
> of them (using the above 'fix' as well) - GPF's reign. ATI , Elsa and Cirrus
> Logic have worked no problem.
>
> I'd be interested in any other tweaks you may know of....
>
> Dave McKenna
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From: Ted@see.my.sig 30-Nov-99 03:07:08
To: All 30-Nov-99 14:39:12
Subj: Re: Real Audio 5 and Matrox Drivers?
From: Ted@see.my.sig (No spam, please)
On Mon, 29 Nov 1999 03:14:38 -0500 (EST), "dinkmeister"
<dink@dontspamme.com> wrote:
>try this:
>edit win.ini in \os2\mdos\winos2 and under the "[drawdib]" section, add
>"DVA=0" and then edit system.ini and remove this line: "device=dva.386"
>it solved the problem for me. =)
Thanks! That seems to have solved the problem for me as well-- I'm
listening to WQED as I type this. I'm guessing that this change has
something to do with Microsoft Video For Windows, since this is the
main difference between version 3 and version 5.
The only other question is how to get RA to work in Netscape 4.61
(I've been using it with Opera, the browser I use most of the time). I
had it working in Netscape 2.02, but lost it when version 4 came out.
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From: Roland.Pinches@pmail.net 30-Nov-99 14:57:25
To: All 30-Nov-99 14:39:12
Subj: RC5DES setup
From: "Roland Pinches" <Roland.Pinches@pmail.net>
Hi,
I'm hoping someone can help me out here.
My machine is a dual PII 400MHz system with WSeB and simply stated, it's not
doing much most of the time! I used to run the RC5DES program on my machine
at work (with a direct connection to the Internet) but since I'm not working
at the moment I thought I'd try and run it on my machine at home, however,
since I live in the UK, I have to pay for my time online :-(
I have InJoy 2.3 (Extended registration) so I have Dial-on-demand, and can
even get it working, trouble is, the RC5DES client seems to keep the
connection open and never allows InJoy to time out and hangup ie: I'm going
to have an expensive phone bill if I carry on like this :(
Can anyone suggest how to setup InJoy and RC5DES so that after a couple of
minutes idle time, the connection will close?
Seems a shame to waste all this processing power...
Cheers, Roly.
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From: Trevor-Hemsley@dial.pipex.com 30-Nov-99 21:17:12
To: All 30-Nov-99 19:49:24
Subj: Re: Huge EA file
From: "Trevor Hemsley" <Trevor-Hemsley@dial.pipex.com>
On Mon, 29 Nov 1999 19:37:56 +0000, Wolf Kirchmeir wrote:
->=>->I did a CHKDSK /F on it, but it reduced the EA file by about 1MB only.
Since
->=>->this system partition had a much smaller EA .SF file before the
semi-crash, I
->=>->think the file has been corrupted soemhow -- ie, it contains a lot of
->=>->garbage, or maybe duplicate entries or something.
->=>->
->=>->So I think I still have a problem....
->=>
->=>How big is the partition and how many files do you have on it?->=>
->=>Trevor Hemsley, London, UK
->
->Partition is 300MB FAT (8K sectors), with about 3,000 files. It's the boot
->partition.
That would imply that *every* file on the disk has an EA attached to it
(3584 x 8192 = ~28MB). This should show up if you run DIR on the disk (may
require the /N switch) and look at the fourth column. Any non-zero value
here is the number of EAs for that file. Have you run a program that's
gone through all your files and attached EAs to them all?
Trevor Hemsley, London, UK
(Trevor-Hemsley@dial.pipex.com or 75704.2477@compuserve.com)
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From: jeffnik@autobahn.mb.ca 30-Nov-99 22:57:14
To: All 30-Nov-99 19:49:24
Subj: Re: RC5DES setup
From: jeffnik@autobahn.mb.ca (J. Robinson)
On Tue, 30 Nov 1999 14:57:50, "Roland Pinches"
<Roland.Pinches@pmail.net> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I'm hoping someone can help me out here.
> My machine is a dual PII 400MHz system with WSeB and simply stated, it's not
> doing much most of the time! I used to run the RC5DES program on my machine
> at work (with a direct connection to the Internet) but since I'm not working
> at the moment I thought I'd try and run it on my machine at home, however,
> since I live in the UK, I have to pay for my time online :-(
>
> I have InJoy 2.3 (Extended registration) so I have Dial-on-demand, and can
> even get it working, trouble is, the RC5DES client seems to keep the
> connection open and never allows InJoy to time out and hangup ie: I'm going
> to have an expensive phone bill if I carry on like this :(
>
> Can anyone suggest how to setup InJoy and RC5DES so that after a couple of
> minutes idle time, the connection will close?
>
> Seems a shame to waste all this processing power...
>
> Cheers, Roly.
>
>
Not exactly the answer you wanted for your setup, I'm sure, but I
offer this idea as an alternative until the Injoy solution is solved.
One location that I'm at, I don't have a 'net connection but still do
the RC5 crunching. At the end of all the blocks, I simply exit the
RC5 program. You can then attach the buff-out.rc5 file to an E-mail
and send it to flush@distributed.net (it has to be MIME encoded to
work correctly, I believe). You'll got a response back from
distributed.net telling you if it was successful or not.
Then, you can send a second E-mail, this time to
fetch@distributed.net, with the body containing the line
'numblocks=100' (or how-ever many blocks you want). I grab a high
number of blocks so I don't have to do this whole E-mail bit too
often, but can still leave the computer happily crunching away in the
meantime. It works well for me.
Not a solution, but certainly an option.
Jeff.
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From: jms%email.de%email.de%email.de@b... 30-Nov-99 17:21:26
To: All 30-Nov-99 19:49:24
Subj: floppy streamer and IRQ problem
Message sender: jms%email.de%email.de%email.de@bromo.email.ch
From: jms%email.de%email.de%email.de@bromo.email.ch (Jens)
I have a floppy streamer and since a few month, the streamer does not
stream properly when there is movement on the screen (i.e. the tape
goes back and forth).
If I go to a fullscreen os/2 session, it works fine. If I let the PC
alone and there are no changes on the screen, it works fine also.
Any idea what this could be ? It seems like an interrupt from the
video system fires so intensive that the floppy streamer cannot work
correctly.
Thanks for hints,
Jens -> jms@email.de
(I have got a pentium II 350, 128MB ram and a S3 video card)
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From: Trevor-Hemsley@dial.pipex.com 30-Nov-99 21:12:13
To: All 01-Dec-99 00:35:05
Subj: Re: cdrom changeover
From: "Trevor Hemsley" <Trevor-Hemsley@dial.pipex.com>
On Mon, 29 Nov 1999 19:33:36 -0500, Albert O. Howard wrote:
->Trevor Hemsley wrote:
->> Now add the /W switch to IBM1S506.ADD and see what it reports when you
->> boot up. The /W switch has it issue verbose messages and then stop after
->> each one to let you read it (only available with the copy from idedasd.exe
->> or later). See if the CD is listed there or if it's missing completely.
->>
->> OK. Tried that. The output did not show any slave device on either ide
->> controller.
->
->The two pages of instructions that came with the cdrom drive do caution one
to
->select the non-listed ide cd-rom/dvd-rom to install atapi ide interface
'during
->system installation!' I really don't want to reinstall my system!
Reinstalling wouldn't help anyway. The driver cannot find the CD now and
it won't after (or during!) a reinstall either.
How many versions of IBM1S506.ADD have you got? Try substituting older
ones for the newer - if your hard disk is greater than 4GB in size then
you can't go back any further than a copy dated about January 1998 or
you'll hit the bug where it didn't understand the disk layout. You could
also try DANIS506.ADD instead.
The other possibility that I can think of is that some hard disks have
several jumper positions, namely, single, master and slave. If set to
single then they don't support having a slave device at all and that would
explain what you see.
Trevor Hemsley, London, UK
(Trevor-Hemsley@dial.pipex.com or 75704.2477@compuserve.com)
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From: alberth@ibm.net 30-Nov-99 19:06:22
To: All 01-Dec-99 00:35:05
Subj: Re: cdrom changeover
From: "Albert O. Howard" <alberth@ibm.net>
> Reinstalling wouldn't help anyway. The driver cannot find the CD now and
> it won't after (or during!) a reinstall either.
>
> How many versions of IBM1S506.ADD have you got? Try substituting older
> ones for the newer - if your hard disk is greater than 4GB in size then
> you can't go back any further than a copy dated about January 1998 or
> you'll hit the bug where it didn't understand the disk layout. You could
> also try DANIS506.ADD instead.
>
> The other possibility that I can think of is that some hard disks have
> several jumper positions, namely, single, master and slave. If set to
> single then they don't support having a slave device at all and that would
> explain what you see.
>
> Trevor Hemsley, London, UK
> (Trevor-Hemsley@dial.pipex.com or 75704.2477@compuserve.com)
Thanks for staying with me on this, Mr. Hemsley,
OK. I initially had the old cd-rom drive as a slave on the primary ide
controller. I
simply replaced that cd-rom with the new one. There is a second ide hard
drive that
is 4.3g on the other ide controller.
I will try some of the older versions of IBM1S506.ADD. I have already tried
DanisAD506.
Thanks again and I'll let you know. Al Howard
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From: adriandavies@clara.co.uk 01-Dec-99 00:52:06
To: All 01-Dec-99 00:35:05
Subj: Advice sought!
From: "adrian davies" <adriandavies@clara.co.uk>
I'm a Windows user with some general interest in computers, and a desire to
learn about alternative operating systems to Windows 98.
I'm running a Pentium II with a 350 MHZ processor, 128 MB of RAM, and a
large (12 gigabyte) hard disk.
How easily can I partition my hard disk (which has an awful lot of spare
capacity) to install OS/2?
What version of OS/2 do users recommend?
Apart from greater stability, and not being made by Bill Gates, (sorry to
swear in this newsgroup!) what advantages over Windows 98 does OS/2 offer?
Will my preferred word-processing package, namely WordPerfect 9, work under
OS/2? I know that WordPerfect 6.1 did.
Your thoughts on any or all of these questions would be very much
appreciated!
Regards,
Adrian Davies
adriandavies@clara.co.uk
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From: rgibson@ix.netcom.com 30-Nov-99 16:47:08
To: All 01-Dec-99 00:35:05
Subj: Re: cdrom changeover
From: rgibson@ix.netcom.com (Ron Gibson)
On Sun, 28 Nov 1999 21:40:32, lsunley@mb.sympatico.ca (Lorne Sunley)
wrote:
> Some of the higher speed CD-ROM drives won't work
> as slaves with some hard drives.
> Try configuring the machine with the two HD on
> the primary channel and the CD-ROM as
> master on the second channel.
> I ran into this with a 36X CD-ROM and one 40X
> model. Both were some kind of generic re-badged
> drives so I don't know the manufacturer.
If you have a choice the ACER 40X and 50X will work fine even as a slave
with no master on my second IDE channel. The primary is a removable HDD
used for backup. Main drive is single fixed HDD on IDE 1.
Heck they even mention OS/2 in the so called installation guide :)
email: rgibson@ix.netcom.com
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From: jkrim@ecrix.com 30-Nov-99 11:32:22
To: All 01-Dec-99 00:35:06
Subj: Mouse and Video problems with Xfree86
From: Jordan Krim <jkrim@ecrix.com>
I have 2 problems with Xfree86:
1. When I Ctrl-Esc back to the OS/2 Desktop from an Xsession, the mouse
cursor is gone. It still seems to function, but I can't see it. I
tired adding sw_cursor to
the video card section (is this right?) but it didn't work
2. The Xfree86 video is skewed to one side (almost like folded over
i.e. some of the video is overlapped). If this can be adjusted with
xvidtune, how? I tried
to execute xvidtune from an OS/2 window (outside of the running Xfree86)
but
it just complained that it wasn't authorized.
I have an Nvidia Riva TNT card with 16 MB. I am running 1024x768. I am
using
the SVGA server.
Jordan Krim
jkrim@ecrix.com
jrkim@mho.net
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From: johnsom7@my-deja.com 30-Nov-99 18:32:06
To: All 01-Dec-99 00:35:06
Subj: Re: Waahooooo !! Then oh sh*t
From: johnsom7@my-deja.com
Cheers,
I've got it sorted now.!!!
Thanks a lot
Mark
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From: J.Harbinson@ATO.DLO.NL 30-Nov-99 19:07:20
To: All 01-Dec-99 00:35:06
Subj: Wacom Pen Partner
From: Jeremy Harbinson <J.Harbinson@ATO.DLO.NL>
Does anyone know if the Pen Partner tablet from Wacom can be used with
OS/2?
Thanks,
all the best,
Jeremy Harbinson
J.Harbinson(at)ATO.DLO.NL
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From: dmckenn@attglobal.net 30-Nov-99 20:58:19
To: All 01-Dec-99 17:09:06
Subj: Re: Real Audio 5 and Matrox Drivers?
From: "David McKenna" <dmckenn@attglobal.net>
On Tue, 30 Nov 1999 03:22:17 -0500 (EST), dinkmeister wrote:
>Are you using Matrox drivers v2.31? RP works fine with both my mystique
>and g200 using the 2.31 drivers and that dva=0 trick. also which fixpak
>are you using? 12 here. lastly, try setting files=255 in the winos2
>properties.
>
I'm currently using a Matrox G200 (16MB) with the ver. 2.23 drivers -
the 2.31 drivers will not boot (trap e) on my machine. Warp 4 FP 12. The
files=255 didn't help either - oh well...
I have tried the GRADD drivers and they do let RP work! Unfortunately, the
GRADD drivers seem to cause my machine to be unstable - frequent unexpected
hangs and lockups. If it's not one thing , it's another.
I also tried the SDD drivers, but they have an issue with my Kensington
mouse so I'll have to wait for Scitech to clear it up ...
Guess I'm SOL with Matrox for the time being...
Dave McKenna
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From: sk8ndude-nospam-@erols.com 01-Dec-99 02:29:07
To: All 01-Dec-99 17:09:06
Subj: Re: Mouse and Video problems with Xfree86
From: sk8ndude-nospam-@erols.com (John Rodriguez)
See the thread above called XFree86/OS2 install problem. My install
did the same thing until I installed the lates SciTech GRADD drivers.
Fixed me right up!
John
On Tue, 30 Nov 1999 18:32:45, Jordan Krim <jkrim@ecrix.com> wrote:
> I have 2 problems with Xfree86:
> 1. When I Ctrl-Esc back to the OS/2 Desktop from an Xsession, the mouse
> cursor is gone. It still seems to function, but I can't see it. I
> tired adding sw_cursor to
> the video card section (is this right?) but it didn't work
> 2. The Xfree86 video is skewed to one side (almost like folded over
> i.e. some of the video is overlapped). If this can be adjusted with
> xvidtune, how? I tried
> to execute xvidtune from an OS/2 window (outside of the running Xfree86)
> but
> it just complained that it wasn't authorized.
> I have an Nvidia Riva TNT card with 16 MB. I am running 1024x768. I am
> using
> the SVGA server.
>
> Jordan Krim
> jkrim@ecrix.com
>
>
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From: hunters@sapphire.indstate.edu 01-Dec-99 02:28:08
To: All 01-Dec-99 17:09:06
Subj: Re: floppy streamer and IRQ problem
From: hunters@sapphire.indstate.edu
In article <vImTVl25inkn-pn2-qUm1NfqUcXKH@on-tline.de>,
jms%email.de%email.de%email.de@bromo.email.ch (Jens) wrote:
> I have a floppy streamer and since a few month, the streamer does not
PEMI, but WTF is a floppy streamer??
--
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hunters@sapphire.indstate.edu *AMD K6-2 400* |There's 5 more fingers. |
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From: sk8ndude-nospam-@erols.com 01-Dec-99 02:54:16
To: All 01-Dec-99 17:09:06
Subj: Re: Advice sought!
From: sk8ndude-nospam-@erols.com (John Rodriguez)
I'm sure many people on this list will have advise for you, so I wont
go on too long. I'm a Windows user by trade and I must admit, it pays
the bills. I spend eight to ten hours a day as a software engineer
working with Windows inside and out. Lets take a quick look at the
Microsoft Foundation Classes, the basis of most of todays serious
Windows applications. This class library is NOT thread safe! Most
programming books suggest avoiding starting multiple threads. Most
programmers will not go out of their way to implement a multithreaded
program because the risk is too high. Translation: Ask you WinXX
program to do something, and don't expect it to be responsive until it
is finished. Boy does that get to me.
Object oriented "Desktop" or as we call it on OS/2, Work Place Shell.
While Billy is making progress with the UI, and I must admit, it's
pretty, it doesn't quite get the idea of objects . Now I was an OS/2
user for years before I fully understood what a great job IBM did with
the Work Place Shell, so I don't think I'll be able to explain my
position comprehensibly. But I'll give you an example. OS/2's WPS
has a "Program Object". That "program object" can be used as an alias
(Shortcut) to a program and exposes all the properties of the actual
program. Or you could change the properties of the actual program
itself (not the alias). Now in Windows, you have a shortcut and you
can do things like add command line parameters. However you can't add
a command line parameter to the actual program. That's because the
shortcut is not an alias of the program, but just a program launcher.
It makes me so angry that I can put a program on my Windows desktop
and run it, but if I need to do something like add a command line
parameter, I have to fist create a shortcut. Then I have two icons on
my desktop, one for the program, and one for the shortcut!
It's hard to explain, but OS/2 is just designed much better than
Windows.
It's fairly easy to set up OS/2 in a multi boot system. Partition
Magic can make it easier, but it isn't necessary. In fact partition
magic comes with IBM's boot manager. It's funny to see all these
windows systems at work the boot to OS/2's boot manager:-) There are
many ways to set up such a system. Check out os2.about.com, it's a
great site and has some setup articles. The best advice I can give
you is to carefully plan your setup. There are so many file systems
out there (FAT, FAT32 NTFS, HPFS) Microsofts FDISK doesn't play well
with HPFS or boot manager, but its easy to get around that.
If I can help, just send me a note.
John
On Wed, 1 Dec 1999 00:52:13, "adrian davies"
<adriandavies@clara.co.uk> wrote:
> I'm a Windows user with some general interest in computers, and a desire to
> learn about alternative operating systems to Windows 98.
>
> I'm running a Pentium II with a 350 MHZ processor, 128 MB of RAM, and a
> large (12 gigabyte) hard disk.
>
> How easily can I partition my hard disk (which has an awful lot of spare
> capacity) to install OS/2?
>
> What version of OS/2 do users recommend?
>
> Apart from greater stability, and not being made by Bill Gates, (sorry to
> swear in this newsgroup!) what advantages over Windows 98 does OS/2 offer?
>
> Will my preferred word-processing package, namely WordPerfect 9, work under
> OS/2? I know that WordPerfect 6.1 did.
>
> Your thoughts on any or all of these questions would be very much
> appreciated!
>
> Regards,
>
>
> Adrian Davies
>
> adriandavies@clara.co.uk
>
>
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From: nospam@savebandwidth.invalid 01-Dec-99 00:20:16
To: All 01-Dec-99 17:09:06
Subj: Re: Mouse and Video problems with Xfree86
From: nospam@savebandwidth.invalid (John Thompson)
In <3844184D.3BF950D8@ecrix.com>, Jordan Krim <jkrim@ecrix.com> writes:
>The Xfree86 video is skewed to one side (almost like folded over
>i.e. some of the video is overlapped). If this can be adjusted with
>xvidtune, how? I tried
>to execute xvidtune from an OS/2 window (outside of the running Xfree86)
>but it just complained that it wasn't authorized.
xvidtune needs to run inside X. Bring it up from an xterm, play
around with it until you get things adjusted the way you want.
Then press the [SHOW] button and the modeline needed to put the
display into that configuration will be printed to the xterm
window. Copy and paste this into your XF86Config file and you
should be fine the next time you fire up X.
-John (John.Thompson@attglobal.net)
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From: DLaRue@NetSRQ.Com 01-Dec-99 03:41:07
To: All 01-Dec-99 17:09:06
Subj: Re: Advice sought!
From: DLaRue@NetSRQ.Com (David LaRue)
Hello Adrian,
In <1j_04.1147$AD5.21584@nnrp4.clara.net>, "adrian davies"
<adriandavies@clara.co.uk> writes:
>I'm a Windows user with some general interest in computers, and a desire to
>learn about alternative operating systems to Windows 98.
Good for you. Explore the world.
>I'm running a Pentium II with a 350 MHZ processor, 128 MB of RAM, and a
>large (12 gigabyte) hard disk.
More than enough system to get you started. For what its worth, OS/2 2.1
is about the level of operating system and stability of the current NT, IMHO.
>How easily can I partition my hard disk (which has an awful lot of spare
>capacity) to install OS/2?
There are various packages that can partition your drive. An existing
partition
can be reused for OS/2. There are more experienced at this than I so I will
defer to them. I only talk nice with Windows users, I haven't used it since
Win 3.1
but that is mostly due to my needs and those of my employers. NT isn't an
option even today.
>What version of OS/2 do users recommend?
The currently available flavor of OS/2 is called OS/2 Warp Version 4. You
may find other flavors, such as Version 3, but its best to stick with the
latest level since you have a fairly new motherboard.
>Apart from greater stability, and not being made by Bill Gates, (sorry to
>swear in this newsgroup!) what advantages over Windows 98 does OS/2 offer?
Actually Microsoft helped IBM create OS/2. The legacy of the original
Windows
product design proved cumbersome for a real operating system. By that I
mean that the Intel 386 provided all the capabilities of any mainframe,
including
multiple programs and all the things today NT claims to provide. Its just a
consumer issue as to why it didn't affect the home users. Those that wanted
it were on Unix variants, OS/2, or thier own operating systems. Microsoft
focused on gamers and their UI.
>Will my preferred word-processing package, namely WordPerfect 9, work under
>OS/2? I know that WordPerfect 6.1 did.
I honestly don't know. Hopefully someone will chime in with an option for
you.
There are a number of MS Office-like products out there. Some of them read
WP and MS Word files. I'm into programming so word processors aren't
something
I use much.
>Your thoughts on any or all of these questions would be very much
>appreciated!
Have fun exploring!
>Regards,
>
>
>Adrian Davies
>
>adriandavies@clara.co.uk
David LaRue
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From: ihammes@suffolk.lib.ny.us 30-Nov-99 23:20:25
To: All 01-Dec-99 17:09:06
Subj: Re: XFREE86/OS2 install problem
From: ian hammes <ihammes@suffolk.lib.ny.us>
i think it has more to do with the EMX libraries not be installed right.
although after the third go around I think i'll put it to sleep for a
while. unless of course some gracious soul rescues me from some simple
mistake i am making!
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From: Trevor-Hemsley@dial.pipex.com 30-Nov-99 21:20:15
To: All 01-Dec-99 17:09:07
Subj: Re: RC5DES setup
From: "Trevor Hemsley" <Trevor-Hemsley@dial.pipex.com>
On Tue, 30 Nov 1999 14:57:50 +0000 (GMT), Roland Pinches wrote:
->Can anyone suggest how to setup InJoy and RC5DES so that after a couple of
->minutes idle time, the connection will close?
->
->Seems a shame to waste all this processing power...
RC5DES should close the connection after about 45 seconds (can't remember
the timeout value). Whatever it is that's doing this it isn't that.
Perhaps you should look at running a perproxy on your own machine.
Trevor Hemsley, London, UK
(Trevor-Hemsley@dial.pipex.com or 75704.2477@compuserve.com)
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From: rjlapham@infinet.com 01-Dec-99 00:23:26
To: All 01-Dec-99 17:09:07
Subj: Re: ea data sf file - a security problem
From: rjlapham@infinet.com (Jerry Lapham)
In <c1.2c.2T5Dh1$1XR@rhino_house.attglobal.net>, on 11/30/99
at 04:23 AM, nospam@savebandwidth.invalid (John Thompson) said:
> In <38432367.15598@news.netaccess.co.nz>, patrick.f@netaccess.co.nz
> (Patrick Fitzgerald) writes:
> >I just got a look at some of the things in the <ea data. sf> file. I
> >was horrified to see things deleted long ago in that file. This is an
> >obvious security problem.
> >
> >What can be done about that , the manuals tell me nothing.
> >
> >Is it safe to delete this file ?
> >
> >Does OS/2 have any other files that hide deleted stuff?
> "swapper.dat" probably does also. If you're seeing stuff from deleted
> files in your "ea data. sf" file you probably need to run chkdsk /f
> against the drive to purge the orphaned ea's. Usually OS/2 will do
> this itself; did you perhaps delete the files using a non-EA-aware
> utility (eg, DOS)?
> Yet another reason to use HPFS instead of FAT...
But it doesn't matter whether it's swapper.dat, ea data. sf, or just a
deleted file itself, the data is still there until you overwrite it with
something else. Try exploring a disk with a sector editor sometime.
-Jerry
--
============================================================
Jerry Lapham, Monroe, OH
E-Mail: rjlapham@infinet.com
Written Wednesday, December 01, 1999 - 12:23 AM (EST)
============================================================
MR/2 Ice tag: Bill Clinton deals in "virtual" truth.
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From: jdc0014@InfoNET.st-johns.nf.ca 01-Dec-99 08:45:20
To: All 01-Dec-99 17:09:07
Subj: Re: Advice sought!
From: jdc0014@InfoNET.st-johns.nf.ca (John Hong)
adrian davies (adriandavies@clara.co.uk) wrote:
: How easily can I partition my hard disk (which has an awful lot of spare
: capacity) to install OS/2?
It depends on how you have your partitions setup. If you have
just the one great big mother sized partition than you will need
Partition Magic in order to break this up a bit.
: What version of OS/2 do users recommend?
OS/2 Warp 4 mainly, though you can get by really good with just
Warp Connect (blue spine).
: Apart from greater stability, and not being made by Bill Gates, (sorry to
: swear in this newsgroup!) what advantages over Windows 98 does OS/2 offer?
Think of it this way, the only advantage that Windows 98 has over OS/2
is a wider variety of commericial and shareware applications. Take that
away, well, you get my point. In terms of freeware the difference is not
so great as I have seen. OS/2 does have most of the catagories filled in
style of programs such as WWW browsers, word processors, spreadsheets,
databases, financial software, etc.
: Will my preferred word-processing package, namely WordPerfect 9, work under
: OS/2? I know that WordPerfect 6.1 did.
Doubtful on WP9, even with Project Odin. However you can keep using WP
6.1. Most people probably don't realize that for the most part, WP 6/7/8
(not sure about 9) basically use the same file format which makes things
really convienent.
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From: dink@dontspamme.com 01-Dec-99 05:06:14
To: All 01-Dec-99 17:09:07
Subj: Re: Real Audio 5 and Matrox Drivers?
From: "dinkmeister" <dink@dontspamme.com>
On Tue, 30 Nov 1999 20:58:38 -0500 (EST), David McKenna wrote:
>On Tue, 30 Nov 1999 03:22:17 -0500 (EST), dinkmeister wrote:
>
>>Are you using Matrox drivers v2.31? RP works fine with both my mystique
>>and g200 using the 2.31 drivers and that dva=0 trick. also which fixpak
>>are you using? 12 here. lastly, try setting files=255 in the winos2
>>properties.
>>
>
> I'm currently using a Matrox G200 (16MB) with the ver. 2.23 drivers -
>the 2.31 drivers will not boot (trap e) on my machine. Warp 4 FP 12. The
>files=255 didn't help either - oh well...
>
> I have tried the GRADD drivers and they do let RP work! Unfortunately, the
>GRADD drivers seem to cause my machine to be unstable - frequent unexpected
>hangs and lockups. If it's not one thing , it's another.
>
> I also tried the SDD drivers, but they have an issue with my Kensington
>mouse so I'll have to wait for Scitech to clear it up ...
>
> Guess I'm SOL with Matrox for the time being...
try re-installing 2.31, but this time make sure there are no duplicate copies
of pmgax64.dll laying around (run dir /s pmgax64.dll from c:\) - also if
you're
using dialog enhancer, uninstall it before applying 2.31 then re-apply it
after
its installed.
- dink ( http://dink.org )
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From: jms%email.de%email.de%email.de@b... 01-Dec-99 10:46:01
To: All 01-Dec-99 17:09:07
Subj: Re: floppy streamer and IRQ problem
Message sender: jms%email.de%email.de%email.de@bromo.email.ch
From: jms%email.de%email.de%email.de@bromo.email.ch (Jens)
A floppy streamer is a tape machine attached at the floppy disk port.
Jens
> PEMI, but WTF is a floppy streamer??
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From: idawson@montupetuk.co.uk 01-Dec-99 11:50:05
To: All 01-Dec-99 17:09:07
Subj: OS2 Dual Boot Installation Problem
From: "Ian Dawson" <idawson@montupetuk.co.uk>
Hi,
I have a Toshiba Satellite S300CDT (with 2.1Gb - 80Mb RAM) currently
running
Win 98. I want to install OS2 as a dual boot option.
After inserting the OS2 Installation Disk, an OS2 symbol appears and after
about
30 seconds of disk churning, the machine reboots and starts the whole
process again.
Any Ideas on whats wrong and how to fix them....
Thanks.
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From: pvolsted@image.dk 01-Dec-99 11:38:26
To: All 01-Dec-99 17:09:08
Subj: Re: RC5DES setup
From: peter volsted <pvolsted@image.dk>
hi
> On Tue, 30 Nov 1999 14:57:50 +0000 (GMT), Roland Pinches wrote:
>
> ->Can anyone suggest how to setup InJoy and RC5DES so that after a couple of
> ->minutes idle time, the connection will close?
> ->
> ->Seems a shame to waste all this processing power...
>
I have made a 'manual' instance of InJoy thus:
Open InJoy. Click on New. Name for ex. Def Org and Save.
Open your DOD-InJoy and without making changes Save as Default.
Click on New. Name for ex. Manual - in the DOD-section remove the x's and then
Save.
When time to update, start your manual InJoy, then stop Rc5DES with Ctl-C, and
give the command: RC5DES -update. Then restart RC5DES and stop InJoy.
It usually lasts around 22 seconds in my case.
good luck
peter
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From: Trevor-Hemsley@dial.pipex.com 30-Nov-99 21:18:01
To: All 01-Dec-99 17:09:08
Subj: Re: OS2 boot disk
From: "Trevor Hemsley" <Trevor-Hemsley@dial.pipex.com>
On Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:25:30 -0000, Alan Paterson wrote:
->I recently tried to reinstall OS2 Warp v3 and found that my setup disk
->wouldn't boot. Can anyone help?
If you have the CD copy then running CDINST.BAT will make you new ones.
Trevor Hemsley, London, UK
(Trevor-Hemsley@dial.pipex.com or 75704.2477@compuserve.com)
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From: AsbjornPettersen@dualog.no 01-Dec-99 15:36:15
To: All 01-Dec-99 17:09:08
Subj: Re: OS2 Dual Boot Installation Problem
From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Asbj=F8rn?= Pettersen <AsbjornPettersen@dualog.no>
Ian Dawson wrote:
> Hi,
> I have a Toshiba Satellite S300CDT (with 2.1Gb - 80Mb RAM) currently
> running
> Win 98. I want to install OS2 as a dual boot option.
>
> After inserting the OS2 Installation Disk, an OS2 symbol appears and after
> about
> 30 seconds of disk churning, the machine reboots and starts the whole
> process again.
>
> Any Ideas on whats wrong and how to fix them....
>
> Thanks.
OS/2 work on my CDS300 with boot manager (OS/2 and linux)
I found a OS/2 FAQ for my laptop and i'm sure that there was one for 300CDT
too.
Try to search for it on web.
I'll guess that you problem is caused by the CDROM or "VGA card".
Good luck
Asbjoern
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From: lsunley@mb.sympatico.ca 01-Dec-99 14:49:20
To: All 01-Dec-99 17:09:08
Subj: Re: OS2 Dual Boot Installation Problem
From: lsunley@mb.sympatico.ca (Lorne Sunley)
On Wed, 1 Dec 1999 11:50:10, "Ian Dawson" <idawson@montupetuk.co.uk>
wrote:
> Hi,
> I have a Toshiba Satellite S300CDT (with 2.1Gb - 80Mb RAM) currently
> running
> Win 98. I want to install OS2 as a dual boot option.
>
> After inserting the OS2 Installation Disk, an OS2 symbol appears and after
> about
> 30 seconds of disk churning, the machine reboots and starts the whole
> process again.
>
> Any Ideas on whats wrong and how to fix them....
If you are trying to use "dual boot" meaning that the OS/2
code is in the same partition as Windows 98, this probably
won't work given that Win 98 is probably using a FAT32 or
FAT32X partition type which OS/2 cannot read.
The only reliable way is to use "boot manager" which
will require that you re-partition your disk drive to obtain
another partition that can be used to install OS/2
--
Lorne Sunley
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From: rgibson@ix.netcom.com 01-Dec-99 15:31:22
To: All 01-Dec-99 17:09:08
Subj: Re: Real Audio 5 and Matrox Drivers?
From: rgibson@ix.netcom.com (Ron Gibson)
On Wed, 1 Dec 1999 01:58:38, "David McKenna" <dmckenn@attglobal.net>
wrote:
> I have tried the GRADD drivers and they do let RP work! Unfortunately,
the
> GRADD drivers seem to cause my machine to be unstable - frequent unexpected
> hangs and lockups. If it's not one thing , it's another.
>
> I also tried the SDD drivers, but they have an issue with my Kensington
> mouse so I'll have to wait for Scitech to clear it up ...
>
> Guess I'm SOL with Matrox for the time being...
Hell I'm more out of luck than you. I use the GRADD drivers and real
player gives me a windoze type error every time. I've tried everthing I
can think of.
email: rgibson@ix.netcom.com
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From: bv@opera.no 01-Dec-99 16:28:15
To: All 01-Dec-99 17:09:08
Subj: Re: OS2, NT or Linux
From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Bj=F8rn?= Vermo <bv@opera.no>
Richard Steiner wrote:
>
>
> I'd advise you to take a serious look at a less extremist Linux desktop
> environment like KDE or WindowMaker before passing any sort of judgement
> on the general performance of the Linux desktop as a whole. What you
> are seeing is an extreme case, and it can be made MUCH faster.
>
I run KDE on it now - a very nice environment, but nowhere near the
functionality of WPS. Speed is fair, but not impressive.
>
> I do think that OS/2 is faster on the same hardware than Linux is, even
> if you boot the two into text-mode only.
That depends on whether you run any multithreaded software.
Linux programs are faster under Linux than when ported to OS/2 by
EMX.
Non-trivial native OS/2 VIO programs are far from easy to port to
Linux.
Comparing is not really easy. If you need real-time, QNX will beat
both anyway.
But whatever tests I managed to make demonstrated that the
performance
of Linux on weak hardware only is impressive if you compare to
Windows or
a heavy-duty UNIX like Solaris. OS/2 and Linux are in the same camp,
performance-wise.
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From: rgibson@ix.netcom.com 01-Dec-99 15:31:23
To: All 01-Dec-99 17:09:08
Subj: Re: Advice sought!
From: rgibson@ix.netcom.com (Ron Gibson)
On Wed, 1 Dec 1999 08:45:41, jdc0014@InfoNET.st-johns.nf.ca (John Hong)
wrote:
> : Apart from greater stability, and not being made by Bill Gates, (sorry to
> : swear in this newsgroup!) what advantages over Windows 98 does OS/2 offer?
>
> Think of it this way, the only advantage that Windows 98 has over OS/2
> is a wider variety of commericial and shareware applications. Take that
> away, well, you get my point. In terms of freeware the difference is not
> so great as I have seen. OS/2 does have most of the catagories filled in
> style of programs such as WWW browsers, word processors, spreadsheets,
> databases, financial software, etc.
There is one BIG gap that MS has an advantage in. Multimedia and games.
I refuse to have a state of the art system and not be allowed to use all
those "accessories". Yes, for the grunt work OS/2 is definitely
superior, but when you want a little fun, OS/2 starts showing it's
weaknesses. This drove me to finally upgrade my ancient W31 to W98 a
few months ago and I'm very glad I did. I won't go to extremes on this
point but will just say one thing, SoundBlaster Live.
But right now I'm in OS/2 using ProNews, IMO the best news reader
regardless of platform.
email: rgibson@ix.netcom.com
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From: rgibson@ix.netcom.com 01-Dec-99 15:31:22
To: All 01-Dec-99 17:09:08
Subj: Re: floppy streamer and IRQ problem
From: rgibson@ix.netcom.com (Ron Gibson)
On Wed, 1 Dec 1999 02:28:17, hunters@sapphire.indstate.edu wrote:
> > I have a floppy streamer and since a few month, the streamer does not
> PEMI, but WTF is a floppy streamer??
An undulating party ribbon that attaches to the floppy drive :-)
email: rgibson@ix.netcom.com
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From: doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net 01-Dec-99 17:10:25
To: All 01-Dec-99 20:38:00
Subj: Re: floppy streamer and IRQ problem
From: doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net (Doug Bissett)
On Tue, 30 Nov 1999 17:21:53,
jms%email.de%email.de%email.de@bromo.email.ch (Jens) wrote:
> I have a floppy streamer and since a few month, the streamer does not
> stream properly when there is movement on the screen (i.e. the tape
> goes back and forth).
>
> If I go to a fullscreen os/2 session, it works fine. If I let the PC
> alone and there are no changes on the screen, it works fine also.
>
> Any idea what this could be ? It seems like an interrupt from the
> video system fires so intensive that the floppy streamer cannot work
> correctly.
>
> Thanks for hints,
> Jens -> jms@email.de
>
> (I have got a pentium II 350, 128MB ram and a S3 video card)
>
What is happening, is that the streamer requires data at a constant
speed. If something slows that data down, the tape must be
repositioned to pick up where it runs out of data. Refreshing a screen
can take a considerable amount of time, and computer resources, which
could cut into the time that the streamer program gets to assemble the
data. Floppy streamers are NOT a very good option for any multitasking
operating system, since "other things" can interfere with their
operation.
I would suggest that you have two options:
1) Replace the floppy streamer with a real tape drive, and get some
real backup software to run it (Check out BackAgain/2000 at
http://www.cds-inc.com/ ).
2) Leave the system alone while you are using the streamer.
Hope this helps...
******************************
From the PC of Doug Bissett
doug.bissett at attglobal.net
The " at " must be changed to "@"
******************************
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From: hunters@sapphire.indstate.edu 01-Dec-99 17:39:20
To: All 01-Dec-99 20:38:00
Subj: Re: Advice sought!
From: hunters@sapphire.indstate.edu
In article <1j_04.1147$AD5.21584@nnrp4.clara.net>,
"adrian davies" <adriandavies@clara.co.uk> wrote:
> I'm a Windows user with some general interest in computers, and a
> desire to learn about alternative operating systems to Windows 98.
Howdy!
> I'm running a Pentium II with a 350 MHZ processor, 128 MB of RAM,
> and a large (12 gigabyte) hard disk.
>
> How easily can I partition my hard disk (which has an awful lot of
> spare capacity) to install OS/2?
You'll probably want to get a program like Partition Magic (I recomend
version 3, since it includes an OS/2 executable, and should be rather
cheap to pick up at places like egghead.com)
I suggest a partition mapping as follows:
Primary Partition0: BootManager (allows to choose between OS/2 and
Win98 at boot-up)
Primary Partition1: Win98 (8GB FAT32)
Primary Partition2: OS/2 Warp4 (5GB HPFS
Also, you need (unfortunatly) to download and install the >8.4GB
drivers for OS/2 in order to install on such a large drive.
> What version of OS/2 do users recommend?
Warp4. Available from many places like Indellible Blue
(http://www.indellible-blue.com) but is rather pricy, ~$200! Unless, of
course, you happen to be a student, and then it's a more reasonable
~$90.
I suggest monitoring comp.os.os2.marketplace and searching e-Bay
(search for the string: "OS/2, OS2", with the quotes). People may be
selling thier Warp4 copies for a lot less than retail.
Also an option is buying a copy of Warp3. There are several flavors of
Warp3, including: Connect (includes networking), Blue Spine (includes
WinOS/2), and Red Spine (requires a previous copy of Win3.x for
WinOS/2). The color here litterally refers to the color of the side of
the box.
There are, to date, 42 fixpacks for Warp3, and 12 for Warp4. You will
want to apply the latest (they are cumulative) ASAP.
> Apart from greater stability, and not being made by Bill Gates,
> (sorry to swear in this newsgroup!) what advantages over Windows 98
> does OS/2 offer?
The WorkPlace Shell mainly. Never was (nor probably will be) a better
GUI. It's difficult to describe how wonderfull it really is.
> Will my preferred word-processing package, namely WordPerfect 9, work
> under OS/2? I know that WordPerfect 6.1 did.
Probably not. I believe that WP9 is a Win32 (Windows9X/NT) program, and
won't work under OS/2... Yet. (http://www.netlabs.org/odin/)
> Your thoughts on any or all of these questions would be very much
> appreciated!
Good luck!
--
-Steven Hunter *OS/2 Warp 4 * |But on the other hand...|
hunters@sapphire.indstate.edu *AMD K6-2 400* |There's 5 more fingers. |
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.
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From: whistle@worldonline.nl 01-Dec-99 21:31:05
To: All 01-Dec-99 20:38:00
Subj: Stealth 3D 4000 Problems
From: whistle@worldonline.nl (Stephan van Loendersloot)
Hi,
I recently switched my working Jaton S3 Virge/DX graphics card for the problem
in the subject.
The standard drivers that come with OS/2 don't go for the high resolutions.
The Scitech drivers hang my system. Is there anyone that has (had) the same
problems?
The card is a Diamond Stealth 3D 4000 4MB SGRAM with Virge GX2 chipset. It's
an
AGP version, in use with Aurora. I can give more information if needed.
--Stephan
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From: Trevor-Hemsley@dial.pipex.com 01-Dec-99 20:21:21
To: All 01-Dec-99 21:37:12
Subj: Re: OS2 Dual Boot Installation Problem
From: "Trevor Hemsley" <Trevor-Hemsley@dial.pipex.com>
On Wed, 1 Dec 1999 11:50:10 -0000, Ian Dawson wrote:
->Hi,
-> I have a Toshiba Satellite S300CDT (with 2.1Gb - 80Mb RAM) currently
->running
->Win 98. I want to install OS2 as a dual boot option.
->
->After inserting the OS2 Installation Disk, an OS2 symbol appears and after
->about
->30 seconds of disk churning, the machine reboots and starts the whole
->process again.
->
->Any Ideas on whats wrong and how to fix them....
On the first diskette? Try making a new one from the CD using CDINST.BAT
and use that instead - maybe the disk is corrupt.
Trevor Hemsley, London, UK
(Trevor-Hemsley@dial.pipex.com or 75704.2477@compuserve.com)
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From: News@The-Net-4U.com 02-Dec-99 01:28:00
To: All 02-Dec-99 03:28:00
Subj: PMMerge
From: News@The-Net-4U.com (M.P. van Dobben de Bruijn)
Having had some troubles after installing FP12 (not
necessarily related, but just to be sure) I decided to get
that one out again and go back to FP11. Troubles did not
really vanish, so time to remove all artefacts from previous FP.
So I did a re-install from scratch (keeps the experience
up to date <g>) with Warp 4 CD no FP. Skipped FP5, 7, 8
and 10 I had installed over time and directly slapped 11 on it.
Of course I did put GRADD 8 onto it also, having an S3 AGP.
Now I still have problems with SYS3175 on PMMerge some-
times. Any advice on the best thing to do now to get rid of that?
Regards from Leeuwarden
Peter van Dobben de Bruijn
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From: jdparker@erols.com 01-Dec-99 22:51:27
To: All 02-Dec-99 03:28:00
Subj: Re: OS2 Dual Boot Installation Problem
From: Jim Parker <jdparker@erols.com>
Lorne Sunley wrote:
> On Wed, 1 Dec 1999 11:50:10, "Ian Dawson" <idawson@montupetuk.co.uk>
> wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> > I have a Toshiba Satellite S300CDT (with 2.1Gb - 80Mb RAM) currently
> > running
> > Win 98. I want to install OS2 as a dual boot option.
> >
> > After inserting the OS2 Installation Disk, an OS2 symbol appears and after
> > about
> > 30 seconds of disk churning, the machine reboots and starts the whole
> > process again.
> >
> > Any Ideas on whats wrong and how to fix them....
>
> If you are trying to use "dual boot" meaning that the OS/2
> code is in the same partition as Windows 98, this probably
> won't work given that Win 98 is probably using a FAT32 or
> FAT32X partition type which OS/2 cannot read.
>
> The only reliable way is to use "boot manager" which
> will require that you re-partition your disk drive to obtain
> another partition that can be used to install OS/2
>
> --
>
> Lorne Sunley
You need to be careful with Boot Manager and FAT32. I used the Boot Manager
that
came with Partition Magic 3.0 and which PowerQuest got from IBM. Later I
installed this Boot Manager on a machine that had Win98 preinstalled in a
FAT32
partition. It didn't handle it correctly. I went on a Partition Magic forum
and
found that PowerQuest had a fix for the problem which I downloaded and
installed
and this updated Boot Manager handled the FAT32 partition correctly. The issue
is that the Boot Manager that comes with Warp is probably the same one that
was
originally distributed with Partition Magic and thus probably suffers from the
same problem. I don't know if IBM ever distributed a fix for the problem.
The symptom of the problem was that, when I booted the FAT32 (Win98) primary
partition, the FAT primary partition (In which I had installed DOS) was
visible. The FAT32 partition was assigned C: and the FAT partition got
assigned
two drive letters. One of these "drives" appeared to Win98 to be of 0 length
and
inaccessable while the other appeared normal. The problem, of course, is that
there is supposed to be only one primary partition per physical drive visible
at
any one time. I only had two primary partitions on this drive (other than Boot
Manager itself) so I don't know how it would have dealt with more than two
primaries.
Jim
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From: jim.danvers@mindex.com 01-Dec-99 23:10:03
To: All 02-Dec-99 03:28:00
Subj: Re: Sound Cards and OS/2 (Creative PCI 128?)
From: Jim Danvers <jim.danvers@mindex.com>
Wow! Look what I started... (I kinda forgot about this thread - sorry
guys...) I have been "talking" with a few other people in the os/2 tcpip
group regarding getting a box attached to an NT network. (I finally managed
to get Warp v4 installed on one! <@work though... still can't get it to run
on my hardware here @home... :( )
In anycase though - since I did remember to re-visit this group (I ~thought~
that maybe I posted something in here...) I see that there has been some
banter regarding the original question about the sb drivers - the open source
thing looks promising - lets hope that someone does write some drivers for the
sb cards!
Anyway - sorry for not expressing my appreciation for the help guys - I just
forgot to check back... {shrug shoulders}
-=- J.D. -=-
Jim Danvers wrote:
> Hi guys...
>
> I just installed Warp 3 (blue spine) and am trying (hoping) to get audio
> running on this box - it has a Creative Labs Sound Blaster PCI 128 card in
> it and I have not been able to locate any info on getting it running as
> yet. I'm dual booting this box @present w/Win95 and the audio card works
> fine.
>
> Anyone have any pointers or suggestions?
>
> Thanks in advance....
>
> -=- J.D. -=-
>
> Doug Bissett wrote:
>
> > On Fri, 12 Nov 1999 15:35:20, rcrane@octa4.net.au (Richard A Crane)
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Can anyone comment on the working off/difficulties in
> > > getting working any of the following: ISA AW37-3D cyrstal
> > > chipset card: PCI AW230 4280 Cyrstal Chipset card; or Yamaha
> > > YME744 card or Aztech 368 DSP PCI card?
> > > Richard A Crane
> > > Barrister & Solicitor
> > > slightly altered email (anti-spamming) rcrane AT
> > > octa4.net.au
> > > OR rcrane AT attglobal.net
> >
> > I have used a few AW37 cards, with good success. Go to:
> > http://www.cirrus.com/drivers/audiodrv/
> > to get the OS/2 driver (Use the FM driver, it works better than the WT
> > driver).
> >
> > Hope this helps...
> > ******************************
> > From the PC of Doug Bissett
> > doug.bissett at attglobal.net
> > The " at " must be changed to "@"
> > ******************************
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From: nospam_n.saxon@mindspring.com 01-Dec-99 22:51:21
To: All 02-Dec-99 03:28:00
Subj: Re: Please Help with Yamaha SCSI CD-ReWritable Drive.
From: "Nick Saxon" <nospam_n.saxon@mindspring.com>
On Sun, 28 Nov 1999 17:25:24 GMT, hernsmodestil@technologist.com wrote:
>In <qpkdVVNoMoTk-pn2-BLqdLK1FNzyY@tcpserver>, on 11/28/99
> at 04:15 PM, lsunley@mb.sympatico.ca (Lorne Sunley) said:
>
>>Have fun...
>
>>--
>
>>Lorne Sunley
>
>Thank You Lorne, that did the trick.
>I was able to install the drivers, rebooted and confirmed OS/2 regonized
>the new drive.
>
>Next I will try to record an Audio CD.
How's it going?
I've just got my Yamaha CRW6416S and it refuses to work. This is the only
internal SCSI device (ID=3)
on my Adaptec 2940. It has two external devices, JAZZ(ID=2) and UMAX Astra
1220S(ID=5) working OK.
Terminator is on, parity is on.
Any ideas?
>
>Thanks again for your help.
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Thanks for any help,
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From: hernsmodestil@technologist.com 02-Dec-99 04:45:21
To: All 02-Dec-99 03:28:00
Subj: Re: Please Help with Yamaha SCSI CD-ReWritable Drive.
From: hernsmodestil@technologist.com
In <afnkbazvaqfcevatpbz.fm3he60.pminews@news.mindspring.com>, on 12/01/99
at 10:51 PM, "Nick Saxon" <nospam_n.saxon@mindspring.com> said:
>On Sun, 28 Nov 1999 17:25:24 GMT, hernsmodestil@technologist.com wrote:
>>In <qpkdVVNoMoTk-pn2-BLqdLK1FNzyY@tcpserver>, on 11/28/99
>> at 04:15 PM, lsunley@mb.sympatico.ca (Lorne Sunley) said:
>>
>>>Have fun...
>>
>>>--
>>
>>>Lorne Sunley
>>
>>Thank You Lorne, that did the trick.
>>I was able to install the drivers, rebooted and confirmed OS/2 regonized
>>the new drive.
>>
>>Next I will try to record an Audio CD.
>How's it going?
>I've just got my Yamaha CRW6416S and it refuses to work. This is the only
>internal SCSI device (ID=3)
>on my Adaptec 2940. It has two external devices, JAZZ(ID=2) and UMAX
>Astra 1220S(ID=5) working OK.
>Terminator is on, parity is on.
>Any ideas?
>Thanks for any help,
>Nick Saxon
Hi Nick, So for so good.
The installation went well and added just two lines in config.sys.
BASEDEV=FLASHPT.ADD
BASEDEV=OS2SCSI.DMD
I have a Mylex/Buslogic (SCSI-2 BT-930R), with auto termination enabled
and the Yamaha CDRW is the only device; is installed with the factory
settings.
I am not familiar with your card, but I think your card had to be
terminated since your previously installed devices were external ones.
Now that you've installed an internal device check that your card is no
longer terminated. That could be it.
Thanks.
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From: jdparker@erols.com 01-Dec-99 23:17:26
To: All 02-Dec-99 03:28:00
Subj: Re: Advice sought!
From: Jim Parker <jdparker@erols.com>
adrian davies wrote:
> I'm a Windows user with some general interest in computers, and a desire to
> learn about alternative operating systems to Windows 98.
>
> I'm running a Pentium II with a 350 MHZ processor, 128 MB of RAM, and a
> large (12 gigabyte) hard disk.
>
> How easily can I partition my hard disk (which has an awful lot of spare
> capacity) to install OS/2?
>
> What version of OS/2 do users recommend?
>
> Apart from greater stability, and not being made by Bill Gates, (sorry to
> swear in this newsgroup!) what advantages over Windows 98 does OS/2 offer?
>
> Will my preferred word-processing package, namely WordPerfect 9, work under
> OS/2? I know that WordPerfect 6.1 did.
>
> Your thoughts on any or all of these questions would be very much
> appreciated!
>
> Regards,
>
> Adrian Davies
>
> adriandavies@clara.co.uk
I just finished posting the following in response to another question on
another newsgroup but it applies to your situation as well.
You need to be careful with Boot Manager and FAT32. I used the Boot Manager
that came with Partition Magic 3.0 and which PowerQuest got from IBM. Later
I
installed this Boot Manager on a machine that had Win98 preinstalled in a
FAT32
partition. It didn't handle it correctly. I went on a Partition Magic forum
and
found that PowerQuest had a fix for the problem which I downloaded and
installed and this updated Boot Manager handled the FAT32 partition correctly.
The issue is that the Boot Manager that comes with Warp is probably the same
one that was originally distributed with Partition Magic and thus probably
suffers from the same problem. I don't know if IBM ever distributed a fix for
the problem.
The symptom of the problem was that, when I booted the FAT32 (Win98) primary
partition, the FAT primary partition (In which I had installed DOS) was
visible. The FAT32 partition was assigned C: and the FAT partition got
assigned
two drive letters. One of these "drives" appeared to Win98 to be of 0 length
and inaccessable while the other appeared normal. The problem, of course, is
that there is supposed to be only one primary partition per physical drive
visible at any one time. I only had two primary partitions on this drive
(other
than Boot Manager itself) so I don't know how it would have dealt with more
than two primaries.
Jim
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From: jscott@csolve.net 02-Dec-99 04:35:04
To: All 02-Dec-99 03:28:00
Subj: Re: Query re copy /(V)erify option and single byte errors.
From: JohnS <jscott@csolve.net>
Close, Jon.
But I do have FP6 installed and I'm using HPFS on the JAZ drive.
IBM1s506.add is at 1998-1-12 OS2scsi is at 98-1-6.
Maybe they put the bug back in? <g>
Cheers
John
Jon Saxton wrote:
>
> On Wed, 17 Nov 1999 06:08:54, JohnS <jscott@csolve.net> wrote:
>
> > I have a properly terminated SCSI 1G external JAZ drive
> > that appears to be generating it's own errors.
> >
> > If I copy large (200m) zip files from my IDE drive to the
> > JAZ drive using either XCOPY or COPY , with the /V switch
> > the copy appears to complete without errors.
> > However if I then do UNZIP -T on the copied file, errors
> > are detected in the same location each time (on the same file).
> > If I do a COMP between the original and copies, the errors
> > are in the same place each time.
> >
> > Questions:
> > Does FORMAT /L mark and hide bad sectors?
> >
> > When the verify switch is used, is the READ performed on the disk
> > or on the buffered WRITE data.
> >
> > Is there any way, regardless of how slow, that I can reliably copy
> > data between two media? (pen and paper won't do) <g>
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > JohnS
>
> Are you perchance running OS/2 4.0 with no fixpack -AND- using HPFS
> on the JAZ? If both of those conditions are fulfilled then you are
> probably running into a bug in the early release of HPFS which caused
> it to absorb all disk error conditions without reporting the errors.
> Format /L didn't lock out bad sectors and the /V switch on the copy
> commands was of no particular value. I ended up writing a REXX script
> to do copying and verifying to ensure the reliability of my data.
>
> It was all corrected in FP1.
>
> --
> Reply to: field is bogus. Respond to
> Jon Saxton <triton /at/ ibm /dot/ net> OS/2 software developer
> U.S. Agent for Triton Technologies International Ltd.
> http://www.triton.vg
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From: jdb@juliand.com 01-Dec-99 22:41:05
To: All 02-Dec-99 03:28:00
Subj: Re: Warp 4 FixPak install help needed
From: Julian Dominic <jdb@juliand.com>
All of the information below is great. I have done it this way. I now use
the IBM Remote Service
Utility (RSU). You still need the CSF tool and in addition the RSU tool.
The IBM page tells you how
to update your browser for the RSU tool. The really nice thing about the RSU
tool is that it make
backing out a FIXPAK painless. If you think getting one on is quirky, try
getting one off. The IBM
page is:
http://ps.boulder.ibm.com/pbin-usa-ps/getobj.pl?/pdocs-usa/softupd.html
Alex Taylor wrote:
> On 29 Nov 1999 01:29:30 GMT, EdB (remove .spamout when replying)
<edb@earthling.net.spamout> wrote:
> > I just downloaded the lastest FixPak for Warp 4. After hours of
> > reading and trying to install the FixPak, I'm left boggled.
> >
> > Can someone please tell me how to install this durn thing?
>
> There are many different ways. The default one described in IBM's
> CSF documentation (using diskettes) is probably the most painful one
> possible for large FixPaks.
>
> This is how I do it...
>
> First, download DSKXTRCT, which lets you extract the downloaded image
> files to a hard drive directory:
> ftp://hobbes.nmsu.edu/pub/os2/system/patches/fixpack/dskxtr12.zip
> Unzip this and place DSKXTRCT.EXE somewhere in your path.
>
> Place all the downloaded fixpak files (XR_M012.?DK) into one directory,
> e.g. C:\TEMP. Create an empty directory (e.g. C:\FIXPAKS) and run
> (assuming the above directories):
> DXKXTRCT /s:C:\TEMP\XR_M012* /t:C:\FIXPACKS
> Tell it to replace all files when prompted.
>
> Now the fixpak contents should be extracted under C:\FIXPAKS.
>
> Obtain CSF_141 from IBM's fixpak site if you haven't already, and
> unzip it into the same fixpak directory, e.g. C:\FIXPAKS. (Or you
> can unzip it somewhere in your PATH if you want.)
> Now you're ready to apply the fixpak. If you're willing to accept IBM's
> default settings for the archive directory and confirmations (probably
> best if this is your first time), just type the following command, from
> the directory where CSF 1.41 was unzipped:
>
> FSERVICE /R:RESPONSE.WP4 /S:<fixpak directory>
>
> Where <fixpak directory> is wherever you extracted the images, e.g.
> C:\FIXPAKS. Follow the prompts. Always choose to replace files when
> prompted (unless the fixpak README file explicitly says not to).
>
> Close all programs before doing this! It might be safer to do this
> step when booted to command prompt only, although I'm rarely so
> careful myself.
>
> Alternatively, you can use the graphical service tool, which makes you
> enter archive and backup directories yourself. To do this, say:
>
> SET CSFCDROMDIR=<fixpak directory> <-- very important!
> SERVICE.EXE
>
> and follow the prompts. Again, close all programs first (but you must be
> booted to the desktop to use this option).
>
> This sounds like a lengthy description, but it's actually a fairly simple
> procedure. The main complication is getting and using DSKXTRCT. This is
> necessary because IBM's image extraction utility only seems capable of
> extracting to floppies, not to the hard drive. Also, DSKXTRCT performs
> CRC checking on the image files; useful if you had a corrupt download.
>
> As for alternative methods... Some people swear by RSU, which lets you
> apply the fix right over the Web. I've never tried it myself, but you
> probably need a fast connection.
>
> Also, you can get FixPak CDs from a number of places, which do most of the
> above for you in advance, and even wrap it in a nice easy installation
> shell if you're lucky. IBM's technical connection provides them, for
> registered partners. You can also order similar things cheaply from
> BMT Micro, the OS/2 SuperSite, and Indelible Blue.
>
> --
> -----------------------------------------------------------------
> Alex Taylor BA - CIS - University of Guelph
> alex@eddie.cis.uoguelph.ca http://eddie.cis.uoguelph.ca/~alex
> -----------------------------------------------------------------
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From: 58emc1@concentric.net 02-Dec-99 02:07:14
To: All 02-Dec-99 03:28:01
Subj: Re: Please Help with Yamaha SCSI CD-ReWritable Drive.
From: Peter Hinckley <58emc1@concentric.net>
I have v4 fixpak 10 using an ASUS P2L97 motherboard with an ASUS PCI-SC200
card. I've had no problems using RSJ CDWriter with a Yamaha 4416 internal
SCSI CD-recorder. RSJ rems out IBMIDECD.FLT and substitutes is own
RSJIDECD.FLT. I did have to get a new CD drive (IDE, seondary master) in
order to transfer audio tracks because my older CD was an 8x TEAC drive, which
won't work transferring audio tracks. My new CD is an ACER 50x. On boot up,
the CD-recorder will be changed to "WORM".
Hope some of this helps.
hernsmodestil@technologist.com wrote:
> In <afnkbazvaqfcevatpbz.fm3he60.pminews@news.mindspring.com>, on 12/01/99
> at 10:51 PM, "Nick Saxon" <nospam_n.saxon@mindspring.com> said:
>
> >On Sun, 28 Nov 1999 17:25:24 GMT, hernsmodestil@technologist.com wrote:
>
> >>In <qpkdVVNoMoTk-pn2-BLqdLK1FNzyY@tcpserver>, on 11/28/99
> >> at 04:15 PM, lsunley@mb.sympatico.ca (Lorne Sunley) said:
> >>
> >>>Have fun...
> >>
> >>>--
> >>
> >>>Lorne Sunley
> >>
> >>Thank You Lorne, that did the trick.
> >>I was able to install the drivers, rebooted and confirmed OS/2 regonized
> >>the new drive.
> >>
> >>Next I will try to record an Audio CD.
>
> >How's it going?
>
> >I've just got my Yamaha CRW6416S and it refuses to work. This is the only
> >internal SCSI device (ID=3)
> >on my Adaptec 2940. It has two external devices, JAZZ(ID=2) and UMAX
> >Astra 1220S(ID=5) working OK.
>
> >Terminator is on, parity is on.
>
> >Any ideas?
>
> >Thanks for any help,
> >Nick Saxon
>
> Hi Nick, So for so good.
> The installation went well and added just two lines in config.sys.
>
> BASEDEV=FLASHPT.ADD
> BASEDEV=OS2SCSI.DMD
>
> I have a Mylex/Buslogic (SCSI-2 BT-930R), with auto termination enabled
> and the Yamaha CDRW is the only device; is installed with the factory
> settings.
>
> I am not familiar with your card, but I think your card had to be
> terminated since your previously installed devices were external ones.
> Now that you've installed an internal device check that your card is no
> longer terminated. That could be it.
>
> Thanks.
> --
> -----------------------------------------------------------
> HernsModestil@Technologist.com
>
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From: domi@kenavo.NOSPAM.fi 02-Dec-99 07:45:06
To: All 02-Dec-99 05:22:14
Subj: Problem with OS2PCARD.DMD (changes drive names)
From: domi@kenavo.NOSPAM.fi (Dominique Pivard)
I have a problem configuring an ATA drive (Delkin Device SmartMedia to
PCMCIA adapter). PCMCIA support is working OK (I have a 3COM network
card that is functioning, and the Delkin Device card is recognized as
"Hard Disk" by PC Card Director). However, whenever I try to load the
OS/2 PCMCIA ATA Device Manager (BASEDEV=OS2PCARD.DMD in CONFIG.SYS),
I'm unable to boot: I get an error message telling me that file
E:\OS2\SYSTEM\COUNTRY.SYS couldn't be found. If I rem out
OS2PCARD.DMD, I can boot, but I'm unable to use the mount utility
(ATAMNT2.EXE)
It seems OS2PCARD.DMD changes the drive names, so that my boot drive
is no longer E:. Is there a way to reserve a drive letter for the ATA
drive that is higher than the existing drives on the conventional hard
disk (C: to F: in my case)?
Thanks, Dominique
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From: luc.vanbogaert.nospam@pandora.be 02-Dec-99 11:28:06
To: All 02-Dec-99 12:07:28
Subj: Thinkpad 390E, fax works?
From: "Luc Van Bogaert" <luc.vanbogaert.nospam@pandora.be>
Hi,
Does anyone have a Thinkpad390E and the LT faxmodem operational with PMFax or
Faxworks? The
modem itself is operational, it's only the faxing that doesn't work (yet)...
Thanks,
Luc Van Bogaert
... Don't underestimate the power of OS/2
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From: Stefan.Pelz@orthogon.de 02-Dec-99 11:54:26
To: All 02-Dec-99 12:07:28
Subj: PCMCIA Setup
From: Stefan Pelz <Stefan.Pelz@orthogon.de>
Hi,
I'm trying to setup the PCMCIA support of OS/2 for a
SCSI card (Adaptec). I think the following drivers have
to be loaded:
* BASEDEV=PCMCIA.SYS - general PCMCIA support
* BASEDEV=IBM2SS014.SYS - PCMCIA socket driver
* BASEDEV=AHA152X.ADD - driver for Adaptec SCSI, came with the card
* OS2SCSI.DMD - SCSI support
The PCMCIA card is already inserted at boot time and a hard drive
is attached to the card. I would have expected an additional drive
icon, but there isn't. The card and the hard drive work under Win98.
Are there any toos which allow to debug what's going wrong. Currently
I have no idea if this is a problem with the socket driver, IRQs, etc.
The hardware manager shows a PCMCIA device and SOCKET_1 and SOCKET_2
but no ressources assigned to the. Don't they need an IRQ, some I/O
etc.?
Regards,
Stefan
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From: nospam@here.please 02-Dec-99 10:31:12
To: All 02-Dec-99 15:58:12
Subj: Re: QUESTION: OBJECTDESKTOP ON WSEB?
From: "Walter Metcalf" <nospam@here.please>
I suggest you try the OD Support Group at
news://news.Stardock.com/stardock.os2.support
Brad Wardell et. al. monitor this group.
Walter Metcalf
Focus on OS/2
http://os2.about.com
On Mon, 29 Nov 1999 08:51:05 +0000, filippo sartori wrote:
>HI
>I tried to install Object Desktop 2.0 on Workspace for e-business.
>I failed. Did anybody succeeded?
>Is it incompatible?
>
>Regards
>
>Filippo Sartori
>
>Please mail me also.
>
>Thanks
>
>
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From: pjfloyd@my-deja.com 02-Dec-99 14:32:28
To: All 02-Dec-99 15:58:12
Subj: Re: Please Help with Yamaha SCSI CD-ReWritable Drive.
From: pjfloyd@my-deja.com
In article <afnkbazvaqfcevatpbz.fm3he60.pminews@news.mindspring.com>,
"Nick Saxon" <nospam_n.saxon@mindspring.com> wrote:
> How's it going?
> I've just got my Yamaha CRW6416S and it refuses to work. This is
> the only internal SCSI device (ID=3) on my Adaptec 2940. It has
> two external devices, JAZZ(ID=2) and UMAX Astra 1220S(ID=5)
> working OK.
> Terminator is on, parity is on.
> Any ideas?
A few questions first.
When you boot, if you enter the Adaptec BIOS setup
(some magic key cmobination that gets shown on the
screen during boot) does it show the drive OK?
Since you have the scanner and Jazz working OK, then
you should be OK regarding the SCSI drivers.
Do you have os2cdrom.dmd in your comfig.sys? If so,
try it with the /V option (default is /Q), and watch
during boot up, it should show a copyright message and
a list of the CD devices it detects (manufaturer and
device identifier).
Do you have any other OSes on the machine? If you
do, are they able to see the drive?
Otherwise, as a previous poster, check the termination
is correct.
Regards
Paul
--
Paul Floyd
Is atrophy a shiny cup?
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.
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From: dennis@maserv.mathematik.uni-kar... 02-Dec-99 14:20:12
To: All 02-Dec-99 15:58:13
Subj: Re: Sound Cards and OS/2 (Creative PCI 128?)
Message sender: dennis@maserv.mathematik.uni-karlsruhe.de
From: Dennis Luemkemann <dennis@maserv.mathematik.uni-karlsruhe.de>
> > running on this box - it has a Creative Labs Sound Blaster PCI 128
have you tried the Ensoniq driver (ES1371) from DDPak?
Dennis
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From: @www.ecrix.com 02-Dec-99 16:32:14
To: All 02-Dec-99 15:58:13
Subj: Re: Mouse and Video problems with Xfree86
From: @www.ecrix.com
In <z6JhWWqvyRoy-pn2-BeFJJdXJO89K@localhost>, sk8ndude-nospam-@erols.com (John
Rodriguez) writes:
>See the thread above called XFree86/OS2 install problem. My install
>did the same thing until I installed the lates SciTech GRADD drivers.
>Fixed me right up!
>
>John
OK, I tried to install the NVidia video driver all three ways: NV, GENGRADD,
VGAGRADD. The first two cause the mouse not to work when switching back to
the Desktop. The last one traps (000e) when switching back to the desktop.
I also tried the VGA16 server, but I can only get 320x200. I don't understand
this -- I have 16 MB video ram and it only thinks I have 64K. This did not
cause the mouse to disappear when switching back to the Desktop.
What do I do now?
Jordan Krim
jkrim@ecrix.com
jkrim@mho.com
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From: djohnson@isomedia.com 02-Dec-99 09:49:19
To: All 02-Dec-99 15:58:13
Subj: Re: OS2 Dual Boot Installation Problem
From: "David T. Johnson" <djohnson@isomedia.com>
Jim Parker wrote:
>
> Lorne Sunley wrote:
>
> > On Wed, 1 Dec 1999 11:50:10, "Ian Dawson" <idawson@montupetuk.co.uk>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Hi,
> > > I have a Toshiba Satellite S300CDT (with 2.1Gb - 80Mb RAM) currently
> > > running
> > > Win 98. I want to install OS2 as a dual boot option.
> > >
> > > After inserting the OS2 Installation Disk, an OS2 symbol appears and
after
> > > about
> > > 30 seconds of disk churning, the machine reboots and starts the whole
> > > process again.
> > >
> > > Any Ideas on whats wrong and how to fix them....
> >
> > If you are trying to use "dual boot" meaning that the OS/2
> > code is in the same partition as Windows 98, this probably
> > won't work given that Win 98 is probably using a FAT32 or
> > FAT32X partition type which OS/2 cannot read.
> >
> > The only reliable way is to use "boot manager" which
> > will require that you re-partition your disk drive to obtain
> > another partition that can be used to install OS/2
> >
> > --
> >
> > Lorne Sunley
>
> You need to be careful with Boot Manager and FAT32. I used the Boot Manager
that
> came with Partition Magic 3.0 and which PowerQuest got from IBM. Later I
> installed this Boot Manager on a machine that had Win98 preinstalled in a
FAT32
> partition. It didn't handle it correctly. I went on a Partition Magic forum
and
> found that PowerQuest had a fix for the problem which I downloaded and
installed
> and this updated Boot Manager handled the FAT32 partition correctly. The
issue
> is that the Boot Manager that comes with Warp is probably the same one that
was
> originally distributed with Partition Magic and thus probably suffers from
the
> same problem. I don't know if IBM ever distributed a fix for the problem.
>
> The symptom of the problem was that, when I booted the FAT32 (Win98) primary
> partition, the FAT primary partition (In which I had installed DOS) was
> visible. The FAT32 partition was assigned C: and the FAT partition got
assigned
> two drive letters. One of these "drives" appeared to Win98 to be of 0 length
and
> inaccessable while the other appeared normal. The problem, of course, is
that
> there is supposed to be only one primary partition per physical drive
visible at
> any one time. I only had two primary partitions on this drive (other than
Boot
> Manager itself) so I don't know how it would have dealt with more than two
> primaries.
>
I have used Partition Magic 3.05 and the OS/2 v4 boot manager without
problems with FAT32 drives. The problem you describe really sounds more
like a Partition Magic problem than a boot manager problem. I have set
up systems with the Windows 9x on a FAT32 partition on the first
partition and OS/2 on a second logical partition. If Windows is already
installed on the C: FAT32 partion, OS/2 will not see the FAT32 partition
and so will think it is installing on the C: drive unless you create an
additional small partition ahead of OS/2 for the install. Then you
install OS/2 on what it thinks is now the D: partition and then install
Henk Kelder's FAT32 drivers into OS/2. Then boot with floppies and
delete the small partition (and reclaim the space to one of the other
two large partitions). If you've done everything correctly, OS/2 will
boot with the FAT32 drivers and will now recognize the FAT32 partition
as the C: drive and the OS/2 partition as the D: drive and OS/2 will
have read and write access to both the C and D partitions. Windows 9x
will only see the C: drive (unless you formatted the OS/2 partition to
be FAT16--a very unwise idea IMO).
> Jim
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From: alex@eddie.cis.uoguelph.ca 02-Dec-99 17:26:20
To: All 02-Dec-99 15:58:13
Subj: Re: Advice sought!
From: alex@eddie.cis.uoguelph.ca (Alex Taylor)
On Wed, 01 Dec 1999 17:39:41 GMT, hunters@sapphire.indstate.edu
<hunters@sapphire.indstate.edu> wrote:
> > I'm running a Pentium II with a 350 MHZ processor, 128 MB of RAM,
> > and a large (12 gigabyte) hard disk.
> >
> > How easily can I partition my hard disk (which has an awful lot of
> > spare capacity) to install OS/2?
>
> You'll probably want to get a program like Partition Magic (I recomend
> version 3, since it includes an OS/2 executable, and should be rather
> cheap to pick up at places like egghead.com)
>
> I suggest a partition mapping as follows:
>
> Primary Partition0: BootManager (allows to choose between OS/2 and
> Win98 at boot-up)
> Primary Partition1: Win98 (8GB FAT32)
> Primary Partition2: OS/2 Warp4 (5GB HPFS
Caveat: this probably will not work. See below.
> Also, you need (unfortunatly) to download and install the >8.4GB
> drivers for OS/2 in order to install on such a large drive.
Unfortunately, (last I checked) this does not allow _booting_ OS/2 from a
partition that extends past 8.4 Mb (1024 cylinders). So the above setup
is unlikely to allow booting OS/2.
What I would suggest myself is:
0 (primary): Boot Manager partition - 1 cylinder (~7-8Mb)
1 (primary): Win98 partition - 4 Gb
2 (primary): OS/2 partition - 4 Gb
3 (logical): Shared data partition - 4 Gb
You (original poster) could format your shared data partition FAT, or
possibly FAT32 if you want to try the third-party FAT32.IFS (I have no
experience with it myself).
> Warp4. Available from many places like Indellible Blue
> (http://www.indellible-blue.com) but is rather pricy, ~$200! Unless, of
> course, you happen to be a student, and then it's a more reasonable
> ~$90.
Or a professor, or teaching assistant, researcher, etc...
> Also an option is buying a copy of Warp3. There are several flavors of
> Warp3, including: Connect (includes networking), Blue Spine (includes
> WinOS/2), and Red Spine (requires a previous copy of Win3.x for
> WinOS/2). The color here litterally refers to the color of the side of
> the box.
Warp 3 red spine, Warp 3 blue spine, Warp Connect red spine, and Warp
Connect blue spine, to be precise. Personally, I'd recommend Warp Connect
(blue) - it's just that much more complete and up to date than base Warp
3.
Warp 4 would still be ideal, of course, if the price is acceptable.
> There are, to date, 42 fixpacks for Warp3, and 12 for Warp4. You will
> want to apply the latest (they are cumulative) ASAP.
That's 40 fixpaks for Warp 3 non-server. It's possible (with some
fudging) to install 41+ on Warp 3/Warp Connect, although IBM doesn't
encourage or support it.
> The WorkPlace Shell mainly. Never was (nor probably will be) a better
> GUI. It's difficult to describe how wonderfull it really is.
Another warning - if you're used to the Windows interface and way of doing
things, you will probably find OS/2's interface weird and frustrating for
the first few weeks. Once you get the hang of it, however, there's really
no turning back. :)
> > Will my preferred word-processing package, namely WordPerfect 9, work
> > under OS/2? I know that WordPerfect 6.1 did.
>
> Probably not. I believe that WP9 is a Win32 (Windows9X/NT) program, and
> won't work under OS/2... Yet. (http://www.netlabs.org/odin/)
Apparently, the latest version of WordPerfect that runs under OS/2 is
WordPerfect 7 for Windows 3.1. It's supposed to run really well,
though...
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From: nospam_n.saxon@mindspring.com 02-Dec-99 13:35:17
To: All 02-Dec-99 16:42:03
Subj: Re: Please Help with Yamaha SCSI CD-ReWritable Drive.
From: "Nick Saxon" <nospam_n.saxon@mindspring.com>
On Thu, 02 Dec 1999 14:32:57 GMT, pjfloyd@my-deja.com wrote:
>In article <afnkbazvaqfcevatpbz.fm3he60.pminews@news.mindspring.com>,
> "Nick Saxon" <nospam_n.saxon@mindspring.com> wrote:
>
>> How's it going?
>
>> I've just got my Yamaha CRW6416S and it refuses to work. This is
>> the only internal SCSI device (ID=3) on my Adaptec 2940. It has
>> two external devices, JAZZ(ID=2) and UMAX Astra 1220S(ID=5)
>> working OK.
>
>> Terminator is on, parity is on.
>
>> Any ideas?
>
>A few questions first.
>
>When you boot, if you enter the Adaptec BIOS setup
>(some magic key cmobination that gets shown on the
>screen during boot) does it show the drive OK?
Yep.
>
>Since you have the scanner and Jazz working OK, then
>you should be OK regarding the SCSI drivers.
Yep.
>
>Do you have os2cdrom.dmd in your comfig.sys? If so,
>try it with the /V option (default is /Q), and watch
>during boot up, it should show a copyright message and
>a list of the CD devices it detects (manufaturer and
>device identifier).
It does already.
>
>Do you have any other OSes on the machine? If you
>do, are they able to see the drive?
Win98. Same story. The drive is visible, but error messages pop up.
BTW, cdrecord -inq complains this way:
----------------------
Cdrecord release 1.8a31 Copyright (C) 1995-1999 J rg Schilling
scsidev: '3,0'
scsibus: 0 target: 3 lun: 0
Using libscg version 'schily-0.1'
cdrecord: Cannot do inquiry for CD/DVD-Recorder.
cdrecord: I/O error. test unit ready: scsi sendcmd: retryable error
CDB: 00 00 00 00 00 00
status: 0x0 (GOOD STATUS)
cmd finished after 0.000s timeout 40s
cdrecord: The unit seems to be hung and needs power cycling.
----------------------
It does not depend on CD, CD-R, CDRW media inserted.
>
>Otherwise, as a previous poster, check the termination
>is correct.
>
>Regards
>Paul
>--
>Paul Floyd
>Is atrophy a shiny cup?
>
>
>Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
>Before you buy.
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From: charette@writeme.com 02-Dec-99 19:28:07
To: All 02-Dec-99 16:42:03
Subj: HPFS and NTFS drivers?
From: Stephane Charette <charette@writeme.com>
I have to also use NT 4.0 on my OS/2 development
workstation at work. Is there a method by which I
can get NT 4.0 to read and write my HPFS partitions?
How about the other way around? Is there perhaps a
driver to get OS/2 to read and write NTFS partitions?
TIA,
Stephane Charette
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.
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From: Trevor-Hemsley@dial.pipex.com 02-Dec-99 20:30:06
To: All 02-Dec-99 16:42:03
Subj: Re: Problem with OS2PCARD.DMD (changes drive names)
From: "Trevor Hemsley" <Trevor-Hemsley@dial.pipex.com>
On 2 Dec 1999 07:45:12 GMT, Dominique Pivard wrote:
->It seems OS2PCARD.DMD changes the drive names, so that my boot drive
->is no longer E:. Is there a way to reserve a drive letter for the ATA
->drive that is higher than the existing drives on the conventional hard
->disk (C: to F: in my case)?
Don't put a primary partition on the drive. Just logical drives will
circumvent this problem.
Trevor Hemsley, London, UK
(Trevor-Hemsley@dial.pipex.com or 75704.2477@compuserve.com)
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From: osmo.vuorio@sonera.fi 02-Dec-99 20:09:23
To: All 02-Dec-99 16:42:03
Subj: Re: HPFS and NTFS drivers?
From: osmo.vuorio@sonera.fi (osmo vuorio)
In article <826h7o$npm$1@nnrp1.deja.com>, Stephane Charette
<charette@writeme.com> says:
>
>I have to also use NT 4.0 on my OS/2 development
>workstation at work. Is there a method by which I
>can get NT 4.0 to read and write my HPFS partitions?
Files found in hobbes-os2 archive as of Dec 12,1997:
hpfs_nt4.zip
file size: 104 K (106465 bytes)
file date: Jan 01,1997
path: util/diskutil/
Allows Windows NT 4 to read OS/2 HPFS drives
makes the NT4.0 registry works. You need hpfs support file
from NT3.51 package. There might be even some troubles.
>How about the other way around? Is there perhaps a
>driver to get OS/2 to read and write NTFS partitions?
Files found in hobbes-os2 archive as of Dec 12,1997:
ntfs_003.zip
file size: 306 K (313780 bytes)
file date: Nov 03,1997
path: system/drivers/filesys/
NTFS IFS (file system driver) for OS/2
gives limited access
Osmo
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From: OS2Guy@WarpCity.com 02-Dec-99 15:00:13
To: All 02-Dec-99 19:45:01
Subj: Re: Software Choice
From: Tim Martin <OS2Guy@WarpCity.com>
John Brock wrote:
> In article <38466B94.389536E1@canoemail.com>,
> James Stotz <jstotz@canoemail.com> wrote:
> >I know that Software Choice will become a pay for use for all new
> >updates and applications, but is IBM going to keep current versions of
> >Netscape/2 and Java avaliable for free. If not, new OS/2 buyers will
> >not be able to get any Netscape without forking out more money. Also,
> >We'd all better download everything and save it in a safe place.
>
> I am hoping for a refresh of NS 4.61 like there was with NS 2.02.
> (There seems to be a bug in NS 4.61 which causes CPU usage to shoot to
> 100 percent and download speed to slow to a crawl on many web pages).
> Would a refresh of a currently free product still be free?
> --
> John Brock
> jbrock@panix.com
Jeffrey Kobal of the IBM Netscape team reported in a public message
that a a fixpak for Communicator v4.61 will be released AFTER January
2000 but there is a slight chance it may be released in mid-December.
And it will be free!
He added, "you won't have to pay to get fixpacks even after the
new year. Software Choice distributes whole software packages,
not fixpacks...
The above was reported to all members of Warp City on Saturday,
November 13th. Just one of the many tidbits we keep track of
for our members.
Tim Martin
The OS/2 Guy
Warp City
http://warpcity.com
"1999 Members! Re-Up Today!"
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From: rgibson@ix.netcom.com 02-Dec-99 21:34:03
To: All 02-Dec-99 19:45:01
Subj: Netscape/Win version locks VDM session
From: rgibson@ix.netcom.com (Ron Gibson)
Well I finally found a version of Netscape/W31 that will run on my
system. Previously, every version had some sort of strange problem.
This is version 4.08 for W31, stand alone.
But there is still a problem. It opens, displays pages fine but after
I close it the WIN-OS/2 session freezes requiring me to kill it with
WatchCat. I'm trying to get some Win Plugins to work. Anybody got any
suggestions?
BTW, Warp 3, FP 40, Java RT 1.18, GRADD .8 drivers.
email: rgibson@ix.netcom.com
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From: OS2Guy@WarpCity.com 02-Dec-99 14:47:04
To: All 02-Dec-99 20:44:17
Subj: Re: PGP and Netscape mail
From: Tim Martin <OS2Guy@WarpCity.com>
"Roberto F. Salomon" wrote:
> I know this has been discussed before, but is there a way to have Netscape
> use PGP for encryption?
Yes. William H. Geiger III offers all the information, instructions
and guides for PGP 5.0i GA
You can download PGP 5.0i GA for OS/2 (International Version)
from his site (pgp50ios2.zip) or PGP 5.0 GA for OS/2 (USA Version
[uses RSAREF lib]) (pgp50os2.zip)
PGP for OS/2 requires the lattest EMX runtime be installed.
( emxrt.zip - available at Hobbes)
Bill's url is here:
http://www.openpgp.net/getpgp.html
Tim Martin
The OS/2 Guy
Warp City
http://warpcity.com
(1999 WC Members Need To ReUP Today)
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From: postmaster@[127.0.0.1] 02-Dec-99 18:33:15
To: All 02-Dec-99 20:44:17
Subj: Re: Software Choice
From: postmaster@[127.0.0.1]
In <3846FA0A.8B73BCAA@WarpCity.com>, on 12/02/99
at 03:00 PM, Tim Martin <OS2Guy@WarpCity.com> said:
>He added, "you won't have to pay to get fixpacks even after the new year.
>Software Choice distributes whole software packages, not fixpacks...
Good news. I'll be able to keep up with the fixpacks until I can swing a
Software Choice membership.
Is it really only $100 a year?
--
GK
FrodoJRR at Interaccess dot com
OS/2 Version 4.00 FixPack 12
There are 29 Processes with 118 Threads.
This machine's uptime is 0d 20h 20m 59s 398ms.
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From: domi@kenavo.NOSPAM.fi 02-Dec-99 17:00:26
To: All 02-Dec-99 20:44:17
Subj: Re: PCMCIA Setup
From: domi@kenavo.NOSPAM.fi (Dominique Pivard)
On Thu, 2 Dec 1999 10:54:53, Stefan Pelz <Stefan.Pelz@orthogon.de>
wrote:
> I'm trying to setup the PCMCIA support of OS/2 for a
> SCSI card (Adaptec). I think the following drivers have
> to be loaded:
>
> * BASEDEV=PCMCIA.SYS - general PCMCIA support
> * BASEDEV=IBM2SS014.SYS - PCMCIA socket driver
> * BASEDEV=AHA152X.ADD - driver for Adaptec SCSI, came with the card
> * OS2SCSI.DMD - SCSI support
OS2SCSI.DMD is needed only if you have non-disk SCSI devices (scanner,
tape etc.). I think you need to have BASEDEV=OS2DASD.DMD (I have it,
but I can't remember for what device it's needed).
For a good explanation about PCMCIA configuration under OS/2, there's
a pretty good IBM Red Book on the subject:
http://www.pc.ibm.com/us/support/thinkpad/uguide/600/c79ehm24.htm
HTH, Dominique
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From: donnelly@tampabay.rr.com 03-Dec-99 00:16:28
To: All 02-Dec-99 20:44:17
Subj: Re: PCMCIA Setup
From: donnelly@tampabay.rr.com (Buddy Donnelly)
On Thu, 2 Dec 1999 17:00:53, domi@kenavo.NOSPAM.fi (Dominique Pivard)
wrote:
> On Thu, 2 Dec 1999 10:54:53, Stefan Pelz <Stefan.Pelz@orthogon.de>
> wrote:
snip
> I think you need to have BASEDEV=OS2DASD.DMD (I have it,
> but I can't remember for what device it's needed).
Type HELP OS2DASD and you'll see that it is required, and
automatically installed in CONFIG.SYS
--
Good luck,
Buddy
Buddy Donnelly
donnelly@tampabay.rr.com
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From: sctvguy@yahoo.com 02-Dec-99 19:12:10
To: ziggy29@pacbell.net 02-Dec-99 20:44:17
Subj: Re: Fixpak 42 installation -- Warp 3
To: Tim Irvin <ziggy29@pacbell.net>
From: Bob Grimes <sctvguy@yahoo.com>
Tim Irvin wrote:
>
> I'm having trouble getting this to work.
>
> I'm trying to do an installation using the "SERVICE" command
> (not with disks or through RSU; RSU is not an option over a
> 33.6 modem connection, IMO).
>
> I have all of the .zip files (xr_w042*.zip); I have cs_141.exe
> as well.
>
> I'm trying to follow the instructions for
> "Download and unzip files manually" as listed in
> http://ps.boulder.ibm.com/pbin-usa-ps/getobj.pl?/pdocs-usa/softupd.html.
>
> I have extracted cs_141.exe to c:\csf141 by running
> "cs_141 c:\csf141". I created that directory before running it.
>
> I have unzipped all the FP42 zip files to c:\fp42. They all
> unzipped successfully and there were about 20 of them.
>
> I then issued the following commands:
>
> cd c:\csf141
> set csfutilpath=c:\csf141
> set csfcdromdir=c:\fp42
> service
>
> And the CSF utility comes back telling me that there is nothing
> serviceable to update. (There was no prior fixpak on this
> installation.)
>
> As far as I can tell, what I have done is exactly following the
> instructions to the letter (except for the location of the
> directories, which shouldn't matter).
>
> Any ideas?
>
> --
> Tim Irvin, ziggy29@pacbell.net
Go to Hobbes and get the file, b100.zip. I have Warp Connect Blue and
installed Fixpack 42 with no problems.
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From: jim.danvers@mindex.com 02-Dec-99 21:01:24
To: All 03-Dec-99 03:35:07
Subj: Re: OS2 Dual Boot Installation Problem
From: Jim Danvers <jim.danvers@mindex.com>
Dave...
I'd be interested in learning a little bit more about "... Henk Kelder's FAT32
drivers
into OS/2" (as taken from your post below). Can you provide a link to a web
page or
some other source of info regarding these drivers, and hopefully locations
where they
can be obtained from? Are they shareware / freeware, or commercial.
Obviously I'm
hoping for the freeware... but... if the price is right.
Thanks in advance...
-=- J.D. -=-
"David T. Johnson" wrote:
> Jim Parker wrote:
> >
> > Lorne Sunley wrote:
> >
> > > On Wed, 1 Dec 1999 11:50:10, "Ian Dawson" <idawson@montupetuk.co.uk>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi,
> > > > I have a Toshiba Satellite S300CDT (with 2.1Gb - 80Mb RAM)
currently
> > > > running
> > > > Win 98. I want to install OS2 as a dual boot option.
> > > >
> > > > After inserting the OS2 Installation Disk, an OS2 symbol appears and
after
> > > > about
> > > > 30 seconds of disk churning, the machine reboots and starts the whole
> > > > process again.
> > > >
> > > > Any Ideas on whats wrong and how to fix them....
> > >
> > > If you are trying to use "dual boot" meaning that the OS/2
> > > code is in the same partition as Windows 98, this probably
> > > won't work given that Win 98 is probably using a FAT32 or
> > > FAT32X partition type which OS/2 cannot read.
> > >
> > > The only reliable way is to use "boot manager" which
> > > will require that you re-partition your disk drive to obtain
> > > another partition that can be used to install OS/2
> > >
> > > --
> > >
> > > Lorne Sunley
> >
> > You need to be careful with Boot Manager and FAT32. I used the Boot
Manager that
> > came with Partition Magic 3.0 and which PowerQuest got from IBM. Later I
> > installed this Boot Manager on a machine that had Win98 preinstalled in a
FAT32
> > partition. It didn't handle it correctly. I went on a Partition Magic
forum and
> > found that PowerQuest had a fix for the problem which I downloaded and
installed
> > and this updated Boot Manager handled the FAT32 partition correctly. The
issue
> > is that the Boot Manager that comes with Warp is probably the same one
that was
> > originally distributed with Partition Magic and thus probably suffers from
the
> > same problem. I don't know if IBM ever distributed a fix for the problem.
> >
> > The symptom of the problem was that, when I booted the FAT32 (Win98)
primary
> > partition, the FAT primary partition (In which I had installed DOS) was
> > visible. The FAT32 partition was assigned C: and the FAT partition got
assigned
> > two drive letters. One of these "drives" appeared to Win98 to be of 0
length and
> > inaccessable while the other appeared normal. The problem, of course, is
that
> > there is supposed to be only one primary partition per physical drive
visible at
> > any one time. I only had two primary partitions on this drive (other than
Boot
> > Manager itself) so I don't know how it would have dealt with more than two
> > primaries.
> >
> I have used Partition Magic 3.05 and the OS/2 v4 boot manager without
> problems with FAT32 drives. The problem you describe really sounds more
> like a Partition Magic problem than a boot manager problem. I have set
> up systems with the Windows 9x on a FAT32 partition on the first
> partition and OS/2 on a second logical partition. If Windows is already
> installed on the C: FAT32 partion, OS/2 will not see the FAT32 partition
> and so will think it is installing on the C: drive unless you create an
> additional small partition ahead of OS/2 for the install. Then you
> install OS/2 on what it thinks is now the D: partition and then install
> Henk Kelder's FAT32 drivers into OS/2. Then boot with floppies and
> delete the small partition (and reclaim the space to one of the other
> two large partitions). If you've done everything correctly, OS/2 will
> boot with the FAT32 drivers and will now recognize the FAT32 partition
> as the C: drive and the OS/2 partition as the D: drive and OS/2 will
> have read and write access to both the C and D partitions. Windows 9x
> will only see the C: drive (unless you formatted the OS/2 partition to
> be FAT16--a very unwise idea IMO).
>
> > Jim
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From: lsunley@mb.sympatico.ca 03-Dec-99 03:04:21
To: All 03-Dec-99 03:35:07
Subj: Re: OS2 Dual Boot Installation Problem
From: lsunley@mb.sympatico.ca (Lorne Sunley)
On Fri, 3 Dec 1999 02:01:49, Jim Danvers <jim.danvers@mindex.com>
wrote:
> Dave...
>
> I'd be interested in learning a little bit more about "... Henk Kelder's
FAT32 drivers
> into OS/2" (as taken from your post below). Can you provide a link to a web
page or
> some other source of info regarding these drivers, and hopefully locations
where they
> can be obtained from? Are they shareware / freeware, or commercial.
Obviously I'm
> hoping for the freeware... but... if the price is right.
>
<lots of snip>
Henk's Homepage is
URL http://www.os2ss.com/information/kelder/
Don't forget to pick up the INVALUBLE WPTools
that includes the CHECKINI program.
--
Lorne Sunley
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From: jim.danvers@mindex.com 02-Dec-99 20:46:16
To: All 03-Dec-99 03:35:07
Subj: Re: Sound Cards and OS/2 (Creative PCI 128?)
From: Jim Danvers <jim.danvers@mindex.com>
Hi Dennis..
? No - where can I get DDPak? (what ~is~ DDPak?)
Thanks for the post and (hopefully) useful info!
-=- J.D. -=-
Dennis Luemkemann wrote:
> > > running on this box - it has a Creative Labs Sound Blaster PCI 128
>
> have you tried the Ensoniq driver (ES1371) from DDPak?
>
> Dennis
> --
> "In a world without fences, who needs Gates?" - Scott McNealy
>
> *PGP Public Key available*
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From: jim.danvers@mindex.com 02-Dec-99 20:53:17
To: All 03-Dec-99 03:35:07
Subj: Re: Creative Sound Card driver
From: Jim Danvers <jim.danvers@mindex.com>
Hey Phillip...
Could ya send that my way please?? Someone else suggested that I try that
with a Creative PCI 128 card that I have here.... dunno if it'll work, but
I gues it can't hurt to hope. :)
Thanks in advance...
-=- J.D. -=-
Philip Nicholls wrote:
> To me surprise - and glee- I found a driver for the Creative Ensoniq
> on the IBM ftp site. Don't know who put it there or if this will help.
>
> I think the file was just called "ensoniq.zip". If you can't find it
> let me know - I guess IBM won't mind if I e-mail it to you.
>
> PhilipN
> Hong Kong
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From: alberth@ibm.net 02-Dec-99 21:53:12
To: All 03-Dec-99 03:35:07
Subj: Re: cdrom changeover
From: "Albert O. Howard" <alberth@ibm.net>
Trevor Hemsley wrote:
> On Mon, 29 Nov 1999 19:33:36 -0500, Albert O. Howard wrote:
>
> ->Trevor Hemsley wrote:
> ->> Now add the /W switch to IBM1S506.ADD and see what it reports when you
> ->> boot up. The /W switch has it issue verbose messages and then stop after
> ->> each one to let you read it (only available with the copy from
idedasd.exe
> ->> or later). See if the CD is listed there or if it's missing completely.
> ->>
> ->> OK. Tried that. The output did not show any slave device on either ide
> ->> controller.
> ->
> ->The two pages of instructions that came with the cdrom drive do caution
one to
> ->select the non-listed ide cd-rom/dvd-rom to install atapi ide interface
'during
> ->system installation!' I really don't want to reinstall my system!
>
> Reinstalling wouldn't help anyway. The driver cannot find the CD now and
> it won't after (or during!) a reinstall either.
>
> How many versions of IBM1S506.ADD have you got? Try substituting older
> ones for the newer - if your hard disk is greater than 4GB in size then
> you can't go back any further than a copy dated about January 1998 or
> you'll hit the bug where it didn't understand the disk layout. You could
> also try DANIS506.ADD instead.
>
> The other possibility that I can think of is that some hard disks have
> several jumper positions, namely, single, master and slave. If set to
> single then they don't support having a slave device at all and that would
> explain what you see.
>
> Trevor Hemsley, London, UK
> (Trevor-Hemsley@dial.pipex.com or 75704.2477@compuserve.com)
Hi! We are making some progress.
I tried various older versions of the IBM1S506.ADD and every other
OS2CDROM.FLT and
IBMATAPI.FLT I could find. No luck.
Then I installed the cd-rom drive as slave on the second IDE controller where
the
master HDD is a Quantum Fireball 4.3SE. On the bootup, the bios and the
IBM1S506(latest) detect both hard drives and the cd-rom. The cd-rom drive is
detected as a atapi udma2 in bios and as atapi pio4 by IBM1S506. I tried
using /A:1
/U:1 /ATAPI -- THAT DIDN'T WORK. But with default IBM1S506.ADD /W, get
detection OK.
BUT, the drive doesn't show up on the desktop! Any ideas??
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From: jdparker@erols.com 02-Dec-99 23:11:25
To: djohnson@isomedia.com 03-Dec-99 03:35:08
Subj: Re: OS2 Dual Boot Installation Problem
To: "David T. Johnson" <djohnson@isomedia.com>
From: Jim Parker <jdparker@erols.com>
"David T. Johnson" wrote:
> Jim Parker wrote:
> >
> > Lorne Sunley wrote:
> >
> > > On Wed, 1 Dec 1999 11:50:10, "Ian Dawson" <idawson@montupetuk.co.uk>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi,
> > > > I have a Toshiba Satellite S300CDT (with 2.1Gb - 80Mb RAM)
currently
> > > > running
> > > > Win 98. I want to install OS2 as a dual boot option.
> > > >
> > > > After inserting the OS2 Installation Disk, an OS2 symbol appears and
after
> > > > about
> > > > 30 seconds of disk churning, the machine reboots and starts the whole
> > > > process again.
> > > >
> > > > Any Ideas on whats wrong and how to fix them....
> > >
> > > If you are trying to use "dual boot" meaning that the OS/2
> > > code is in the same partition as Windows 98, this probably
> > > won't work given that Win 98 is probably using a FAT32 or
> > > FAT32X partition type which OS/2 cannot read.
> > >
> > > The only reliable way is to use "boot manager" which
> > > will require that you re-partition your disk drive to obtain
> > > another partition that can be used to install OS/2
> > >
> > > --
> > >
> > > Lorne Sunley
> >
> > You need to be careful with Boot Manager and FAT32. I used the Boot
Manager that
> > came with Partition Magic 3.0 and which PowerQuest got from IBM. Later I
> > installed this Boot Manager on a machine that had Win98 preinstalled in a
FAT32
> > partition. It didn't handle it correctly. I went on a Partition Magic
forum and
> > found that PowerQuest had a fix for the problem which I downloaded and
installed
> > and this updated Boot Manager handled the FAT32 partition correctly. The
issue
> > is that the Boot Manager that comes with Warp is probably the same one
that was
> > originally distributed with Partition Magic and thus probably suffers from
the
> > same problem. I don't know if IBM ever distributed a fix for the problem.
> >
> > The symptom of the problem was that, when I booted the FAT32 (Win98)
primary
> > partition, the FAT primary partition (In which I had installed DOS) was
> > visible. The FAT32 partition was assigned C: and the FAT partition got
assigned
> > two drive letters. One of these "drives" appeared to Win98 to be of 0
length and
> > inaccessable while the other appeared normal. The problem, of course, is
that
> > there is supposed to be only one primary partition per physical drive
visible at
> > any one time. I only had two primary partitions on this drive (other than
Boot
> > Manager itself) so I don't know how it would have dealt with more than two
> > primaries.
> >
> I have used Partition Magic 3.05 and the OS/2 v4 boot manager without
> problems with FAT32 drives. The problem you describe really sounds more
> like a Partition Magic problem than a boot manager problem. I have set
> up systems with the Windows 9x on a FAT32 partition on the first
> partition and OS/2 on a second logical partition. If Windows is already
> installed on the C: FAT32 partion, OS/2 will not see the FAT32 partition
> and so will think it is installing on the C: drive unless you create an
> additional small partition ahead of OS/2 for the install. Then you
> install OS/2 on what it thinks is now the D: partition and then install
> Henk Kelder's FAT32 drivers into OS/2. Then boot with floppies and
> delete the small partition (and reclaim the space to one of the other
> two large partitions). If you've done everything correctly, OS/2 will
> boot with the FAT32 drivers and will now recognize the FAT32 partition
> as the C: drive and the OS/2 partition as the D: drive and OS/2 will
> have read and write access to both the C and D partitions. Windows 9x
> will only see the C: drive (unless you formatted the OS/2 partition to
> be FAT16--a very unwise idea IMO).
>
> > Jim
If you have Partition Magic 3.05 then you have the updated Boot Manager. You
may or
may not be using the updated Boot Manager. It doesn't matter to you because
the old
Boot Manager will handle the scenario you described. What I described was a
different
scenario and the old Boot Manager will not handle it correctly.
Jim
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From: lsunley@mb.sympatico.ca 03-Dec-99 03:27:19
To: All 03-Dec-99 03:35:08
Subj: Re: Sound Cards and OS/2 (Creative PCI 128?)
From: lsunley@mb.sympatico.ca (Lorne Sunley)
On Fri, 3 Dec 1999 01:46:32, Jim Danvers <jim.danvers@mindex.com>
wrote:
> Hi Dennis..
>
> ? No - where can I get DDPak? (what ~is~ DDPak?)
>
> Thanks for the post and (hopefully) useful info!
DDPak - short for Device Driver Pak, the web site
that IBM maintains for OS/2 drivers.
URL http://service.software.ibm.com/os2ddpak/
When you need a driver, look here first, after that
try the hardware manufacturer.
--
Lorne Sunley
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From: lsunley@mb.sympatico.ca 03-Dec-99 03:30:28
To: All 03-Dec-99 03:35:08
Subj: Re: cdrom changeover
From: lsunley@mb.sympatico.ca (Lorne Sunley)
On Fri, 3 Dec 1999 02:53:24, "Albert O. Howard" <alberth@ibm.net>
wrote:
>
>
> Trevor Hemsley wrote:
>
> > On Mon, 29 Nov 1999 19:33:36 -0500, Albert O. Howard wrote:
> >
> > ->Trevor Hemsley wrote:
> > ->> Now add the /W switch to IBM1S506.ADD and see what it reports when you
> > ->> boot up. The /W switch has it issue verbose messages and then stop
after
> > ->> each one to let you read it (only available with the copy from
idedasd.exe
> > ->> or later). See if the CD is listed there or if it's missing
completely.
> > ->>
> > ->> OK. Tried that. The output did not show any slave device on either
ide
> > ->> controller.
> > ->
> > ->The two pages of instructions that came with the cdrom drive do caution
one to
> > ->select the non-listed ide cd-rom/dvd-rom to install atapi ide interface
'during
> > ->system installation!' I really don't want to reinstall my system!
> >
> > Reinstalling wouldn't help anyway. The driver cannot find the CD now and
> > it won't after (or during!) a reinstall either.
> >
> > How many versions of IBM1S506.ADD have you got? Try substituting older
> > ones for the newer - if your hard disk is greater than 4GB in size then
> > you can't go back any further than a copy dated about January 1998 or
> > you'll hit the bug where it didn't understand the disk layout. You could
> > also try DANIS506.ADD instead.
> >
> > The other possibility that I can think of is that some hard disks have
> > several jumper positions, namely, single, master and slave. If set to
> > single then they don't support having a slave device at all and that would
> > explain what you see.
> >
> > Trevor Hemsley, London, UK
> > (Trevor-Hemsley@dial.pipex.com or 75704.2477@compuserve.com)
>
> Hi! We are making some progress.
> I tried various older versions of the IBM1S506.ADD and every other
OS2CDROM.FLT and
> IBMATAPI.FLT I could find. No luck.
> Then I installed the cd-rom drive as slave on the second IDE controller
where the
> master HDD is a Quantum Fireball 4.3SE. On the bootup, the bios and the
> IBM1S506(latest) detect both hard drives and the cd-rom. The cd-rom drive
is
> detected as a atapi udma2 in bios and as atapi pio4 by IBM1S506. I tried
using /A:1
> /U:1 /ATAPI -- THAT DIDN'T WORK. But with default IBM1S506.ADD /W, get
detection OK.
>
> BUT, the drive doesn't show up on the desktop! Any ideas??
>
If you open an OS/2 window and try a DIR X: (whatever driver letter
you think it should be - just after the last hard drive) with a CD
in the drive, do you actually see a directory of the CD?
--
Lorne Sunley
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From: mysql@bohr.core 02-Dec-99 22:35:05
To: All 03-Dec-99 03:35:08
Subj: fdisk does not recognize disk
From: mySQL Account <mysql@bohr.core>
Hi there,
I am trying to install os2warp 4.0 on
a pentium 133 MHz with a 4 GB harddrive.
The installation process goes through
all 3 floppies and when I choose to install
it tells me I have to partition the drive,
after that it sends me to the fdisk thing.
In there, I can delete partitions but
not create!
All the hardware is OK, I installed
linux (15 min) and windows just to check!
Could some kind soul help me please?
Many many many thanks,
Zac
--
| Ezequiel Panepucci (Zac) Molecular Biophysics & Biochemistry
| Scientific programmer Bass Center Room 437
| Office: 203-432-5066 266 Whitney Avenue
| FAX: 203-432-6946 Yale University
| mailto:zac@laplace.csb.yale.edu New Haven, CT 06511, USA.
| http://atb.csb.yale.edu/~zac
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From: lsunley@mb.sympatico.ca 03-Dec-99 04:44:05
To: All 03-Dec-99 03:35:08
Subj: Re: fdisk does not recognize disk
From: lsunley@mb.sympatico.ca (Lorne Sunley)
On Fri, 3 Dec 1999 03:35:10, mySQL Account <mysql@bohr.core> wrote:
> Hi there,
>
> I am trying to install os2warp 4.0 on
> a pentium 133 MHz with a 4 GB harddrive.
>
> The installation process goes through
> all 3 floppies and when I choose to install
> it tells me I have to partition the drive,
> after that it sends me to the fdisk thing.
>
> In there, I can delete partitions but
> not create!
>
> All the hardware is OK, I installed
> linux (15 min) and windows just to check!
>
> Could some kind soul help me please?
>
You have to update the installation floppies with
a new version of the IDE disk drivers. You can obtain
this from:
ftp://ftp.software.ibm.com/ps/products/os2/os2ddpak/idedasd.exe
This is a self expanding zip file. Follow the instructions
in the readme file for updating the diskettes.
--
Lorne Sunley
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From: sma.spam-not@rtd.com 03-Dec-99 06:19:16
To: All 03-Dec-99 03:35:08
Subj: Re: Software Choice
From: James Moe <sma.spam-not@rtd.com>
postmaster@[127.0.0.1] wrote:
>
> [ ... ]
>
> Is it really only $100 a year?
>
It's $250 for two years. There is no one year option.
--
sma at rtd dot com
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From: domi@kenavo.NOSPAM.fi 03-Dec-99 06:20:06
To: All 03-Dec-99 03:35:08
Subj: Re: Problem with OS2PCARD.DMD (changes drive names)
From: domi@kenavo.NOSPAM.fi (Dominique Pivard)
On Thu, 2 Dec 1999 20:30:13, "Trevor Hemsley"
<Trevor-Hemsley@dial.pipex.com> wrote:
>
> ->It seems OS2PCARD.DMD changes the drive names, so that my boot drive
> ->is no longer E:. Is there a way to reserve a drive letter for the ATA
> ->drive that is higher than the existing drives on the conventional hard
> ->disk (C: to F: in my case)?
>
> Don't put a primary partition on the drive. Just logical drives will
> circumvent this problem.
C is a primary partition (I think it is needed in order to boot
Windoze 95), D-E-F are logical. Actually, I found the solution to my
problem: all I had to do was moving BASEDEV=OS2PCARD.DMD to the very
end of my CONFIG.SYS.
I found the tip in
http://www.pc.ibm.com/us/support/thinkpad/uguide/600/c79ehm24.htm,
which is very helpful for anyone having trouble with PCMCIA
configuration under OS/2 (special thanks to James Himmel for pointing
me to it).
Dominique
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From: zique@altavista.net 03-Dec-99 14:37:29
To: All 03-Dec-99 10:46:24
Subj: fdisk troubled
From: Ezequiel HP <zique@altavista.net>
Hi there,
I am trying to install os2warp 4.0 on a pentium 133 MHz with a 4 GB
harddrive and a CDROM.
The installation process goes through all 3 floppies and when I choose
to install it tells me I have to partition the drive, after that it
sends me to the fdisk thing.
In there, I can delete partitions but not create!
I have already:
-formatted the drive on an NT (FAT 16)
-formatted the drive on with HPFS using partition magic 4.0
-partitioned the drive with linux
-partitioned and formatted with windows 95
and nothing works. fdisk on the OS2 install never gets it,
it complains that the partition table may be corrupted but
it is not capable of fixing it.
If I chose to go ahead (advanced install) with the disk
as it is, it gives an error (no useful messages of course).
All the hardware is OK, I installed linux (15 min) and windows just to
check!
Could some kind soul help me please?
Many many many thanks,
Zac
--
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| Scientific programmer Bass Center Room 437
| Office: 203-432-5066 266 Whitney Avenue
| FAX: 203-432-6946 Yale University
| mailto:zac@laplace.csb.yale.edu New Haven, CT 06511, USA.
| http://atb.csb.yale.edu/~zac
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From: c.k.christacopoulos.REMOVEME@dun... 03-Dec-99 16:34:12
To: All 03-Dec-99 14:33:06
Subj: Re: Software Choice
Message sender: c.k.christacopoulos.REMOVEME@dundee.ac.uk
From: Charles Christacopoulos <c.k.christacopoulos.REMOVEME@dundee.ac.uk>
Tim Martin wrote:
>
> John Brock wrote:
>
> > In article <38466B94.389536E1@canoemail.com>,
> > James Stotz <jstotz@canoemail.com> wrote:
> > >I know that Software Choice will become a pay for use for all new
> > >updates and applications, but is IBM going to keep current versions of
> > >Netscape/2 and Java avaliable for free. If not, new OS/2 buyers will
> > >not be able to get any Netscape without forking out more money. Also,
> > >We'd all better download everything and save it in a safe place.
Software choice has always been for complete packages and not fixes (or
fixes which in effect upgrade a package to a newer version). Fixes are
free if you can find them, However, if a fix results in a newer version
then you cannot buy the new version unless you are part of software
choice. Examples, newer version of tcpip for warp server, PSNS for warp
server and so on.
I am not sure they can get away with charging either for Java or
Netscape, remains to be seen.
From a business point of view it does make sence for IBM to know what is
the subscription rate as the income generated may indicate interest in
os/2. From this end, I have to buy licences for my OS/2 server(s), it
would make business sence for us too. However, buying licences for
clients can be an expensive recurrent cost (I guess financial
institutions can be happy to pay it and may even negotiate better
prices).
Charles
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Tel: +44+(0)1382-344891. Fax: +44+(0)1382-201604.
http://somis.ais.dundee.ac.uk/ (runs on OS/2)
Scottish Search Maestro http://somis2.ais.dundee.ac.uk/ (runs on OS/2
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From: lsunley@mb.sympatico.ca 03-Dec-99 15:40:14
To: All 03-Dec-99 14:33:06
Subj: Re: fdisk troubled
From: lsunley@mb.sympatico.ca (Lorne Sunley)
On Fri, 3 Dec 1999 14:37:59, Ezequiel HP <zique@altavista.net> wrote:
> Hi there,
>
> I am trying to install os2warp 4.0 on a pentium 133 MHz with a 4 GB
> harddrive and a CDROM.
>
> The installation process goes through all 3 floppies and when I choose
> to install it tells me I have to partition the drive, after that it
> sends me to the fdisk thing.
>
> In there, I can delete partitions but not create!
>
> I have already:
>
> -formatted the drive on an NT (FAT 16)
> -formatted the drive on with HPFS using partition magic 4.0
> -partitioned the drive with linux
> -partitioned and formatted with windows 95
>
> and nothing works. fdisk on the OS2 install never gets it,
> it complains that the partition table may be corrupted but
> it is not capable of fixing it.
>
> If I chose to go ahead (advanced install) with the disk
> as it is, it gives an error (no useful messages of course).
>
> All the hardware is OK, I installed linux (15 min) and windows just to
> check!
>
> Could some kind soul help me please?
>
Download the IDE disk driver update from the IBM
Device Driver Pak website.
URL ftp://ftp.software.ibm.com/ps/products/os2/os2ddpak/idedasd.exe
The file is self expanding (works in DOS). Follow the
directions in the readme file to update your installation
diskettes.
--
Lorne Sunley
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From: lifedata@xxvol.com 03-Dec-99 12:29:26
To: All 03-Dec-99 20:03:06
Subj: Re: Software Choice
From: lifedata@xxvol.com
James Moe <sma.spam-not@rtd.com> said:
>> Is it really only $100 a year?
>>
> It's $250 for two years. There is no one year option.
I wasn't sure about the actual figure, and remembered it as $200. But that
still comes out at $125 a year, even though you can't get it for one year
at a time. The reason I said anything at all was I knew some people must
still think it is a lot higher than it really is.
When you consider that there are a lot of things on SWC other than Netscape
and Java, you're not getting a bad deal at all.
That's my point.
Jim L
Remove XX from address to Email
Crooks and kooks will get guns regardless of laws.
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From: kenzur@swbell.net 03-Dec-99 13:28:05
To: All 03-Dec-99 20:03:07
Subj: ICQ for OS/2
From: "J. Ken Zur" <kenzur@swbell.net>
Does anyone know of an ICQ or equivalent for OS/2 Warp? Or how about an
AOL instant messenger (ICQ for AOL I think??) I was looking/hoping for
native OS/2 coded apps...
Just checking....
Ken
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From: pauncz@attglobal.net 03-Dec-99 14:48:17
To: All 03-Dec-99 20:03:07
Subj: Re: ICQ for OS/2
From: "Tom Pauncz" <pauncz@attglobal.net>
On Fri, 03 Dec 1999 13:28:10 -0500, J. Ken Zur wrote:
>Does anyone know of an ICQ or equivalent for OS/2 Warp? Or how about an
>AOL instant messenger (ICQ for AOL I think??) I was looking/hoping for
>native OS/2 coded apps...
>
>Just checking....
>
>Ken
>
In comp.os.os2.apps, I found the following ...
Hi,
You can go to:
http://members.home.com/momotek/icq2/
Cheers,
Tom Pauncz
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From: jms%email.de%email.de%email.de@b... 03-Dec-99 20:14:14
To: All 03-Dec-99 20:03:07
Subj: Re: floppy streamer and IRQ problem
Message sender: jms%email.de%email.de%email.de@bromo.email.ch
From: jms%email.de%email.de%email.de@bromo.email.ch (Jens)
> What is happening, is that the streamer requires data at a constant
> speed. If something slows that data down, the tape must be
> repositioned to pick up where it runs out of data. Refreshing a screen
> can take a considerable amount of time, and computer resources,
Hi Doug,
I think this is possible with a 486 or slow pentium, but with a
pentium II ?
A while ago it worked fine, with a normal pentium 133. I don't know
what changed. Ohh...just have an idea: I think I changed compression
to "ultra", maybe this is the reason and you are right, than its the
CPU.
Thanks,
Jens
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From: jkrim@ecrix.com 03-Dec-99 20:42:24
To: All 03-Dec-99 20:03:07
Subj: Re: Mouse and Video problems with Xfree86
From: jkrim@ecrix.com (Jordan Krim)
In <xax14.2459$P4.566968@den-news1.rmi.net>, @www.ecrix.com writes:
>In <z6JhWWqvyRoy-pn2-BeFJJdXJO89K@localhost>, sk8ndude-nospam-@erols.com
(John Rodriguez) writes:
>>See the thread above called XFree86/OS2 install problem. My install
>>did the same thing until I installed the lates SciTech GRADD drivers.
>>Fixed me right up!
>>
>>John
>
>OK, I tried to install the NVidia video driver all three ways: NV, GENGRADD,
>VGAGRADD. The first two cause the mouse not to work when switching back to
>the Desktop. The last one traps (000e) when switching back to the desktop.
>I also tried the VGA16 server, but I can only get 320x200. I don't
understand
>this -- I have 16 MB video ram and it only thinks I have 64K. This did not
>cause the mouse to disappear when switching back to the Desktop.
>What do I do now?
>
>Jordan Krim
>jkrim@ecrix.com
>jkrim@mho.com
>
Well, here's a kludgy fix:
1. After going back to the Desktop, use the keyboard to get to Launchpad.
2. Open an OS/2 window or Full screen.
3. Execute GAREPORT.EXE (from Scitech). Note that I did not install the
Scitech drivers. I am still using the NVidia driver.
4. Mouse magically comes back!
Jordan Krim
jkrim@ecrix.com
jkrim@mho.com
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From: SkidMARX@att.net 03-Dec-99 20:52:17
To: All 03-Dec-99 20:03:07
Subj: Re: fdisk troubled
From: SkidMARX@att.net
On Fri, 3 Dec 1999 15:40:29, lsunley@mb.sympatico.ca (Lorne Sunley)
wrote:
> On Fri, 3 Dec 1999 14:37:59, Ezequiel HP <zique@altavista.net> wrote:
>
> > Hi there,
> >
> > I am trying to install os2warp 4.0 on a pentium 133 MHz with a 4 GB
> > harddrive and a CDROM.
> >
> > The installation process goes through all 3 floppies and when I choose
> > to install it tells me I have to partition the drive, after that it
> > sends me to the fdisk thing.
> >
> > In there, I can delete partitions but not create!
> >
> > I have already:
> >
> > -formatted the drive on an NT (FAT 16)
> > -formatted the drive on with HPFS using partition magic 4.0
> > -partitioned the drive with linux
> > -partitioned and formatted with windows 95
> >
> > and nothing works. fdisk on the OS2 install never gets it,
> > it complains that the partition table may be corrupted but
> > it is not capable of fixing it.
> >
> > If I chose to go ahead (advanced install) with the disk
> > as it is, it gives an error (no useful messages of course).
> >
> > All the hardware is OK, I installed linux (15 min) and windows just to
> > check!
> >
> > Could some kind soul help me please?
> >
>
> Download the IDE disk driver update from the IBM
> Device Driver Pak website.
>
> URL ftp://ftp.software.ibm.com/ps/products/os2/os2ddpak/idedasd.exe
>
> The file is self expanding (works in DOS). Follow the
> directions in the readme file to update your installation
> diskettes.
>
>
And if that doesn't work download the DANIS506.zip package and update
your install disk.
I had to do this because even after upgrading the install disk with
the newer IBM package my system would crap out with a error message
that Warp "could not operate this drive ..."
This was on a Maxtor 13gig UDMA drive.
The DANIS506 package fixed it right up.
Good Luck !!!
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From: isaacl@sonics.ece.ubc.ca 03-Dec-99 20:21:11
To: All 03-Dec-99 20:03:07
Subj: Re: Software Choice
From: isaacl@sonics.ece.ubc.ca (e-frog)
lifedata@xxvol.com wrote:
: James Moe <sma.spam-not@rtd.com> said:
: >> Is it really only $100 a year?
: >>
: > It's $250 for two years. There is no one year option.
: I wasn't sure about the actual figure, and remembered it as $200. But that
: still comes out at $125 a year, even though you can't get it for one year
: at a time. The reason I said anything at all was I knew some people must
: still think it is a lot higher than it really is.
: When you consider that there are a lot of things on SWC other than Netscape
: and Java, you're not getting a bad deal at all.
There are other things, but delivery of items are not guaranteed. You get
what IBM decides to deliver during your subscription period
Netscape and Java are free for other platforms. You might get UDF for DVD
and TCPIP 4.x updates. That's not worth $125/year for me.
If they could provide a "real" client upgrade, or a specific list of
deliverables, then yes, $125/year is not too bad.
Isaac
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From: oliver.rick@oor.de 03-Dec-99 18:07:18
To: All 03-Dec-99 20:03:08
Subj: Re: Problem with OS2PCARD.DMD (changes drive names)
From: oliver.rick@oor.de (Oliver Rick)
On Thu, 02 Dec 1999 Dominique Pivard wrote:
> It seems OS2PCARD.DMD changes the drive names, so that my boot drive
> is no longer E:. Is there a way to reserve a drive letter for the ATA
> drive that is higher than the existing drives on the conventional hard
> disk (C: to F: in my case)?
Do not use any *primary* partition(s) on other harddisks than the first
(only an extended partition with logical drive(s), that applies to
removable media drives as well).
I don't know how OS2PCARD.DMD works, but is it located before OS2DASD.DMD
in the CONFIG.SYS?
You can reserve drive letters by adding RESERVEDRIVELETTER=<letter> to
your CONFIG.SYS, but that doesn't work for direct access devices like your
harddisk. It may work if OS2PCARD.DMD works a little different from
OS2DASD.DMD, but I don't think it does.
/Olli/
--
IBM OS/2 Warp Update Summary:
http://www.warpupdates.de/english/warpupdates.html
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From: Trevor-Hemsley@dial.pipex.com 03-Dec-99 18:00:24
To: All 03-Dec-99 21:12:25
Subj: Re: cdrom changeover
From: "Trevor Hemsley" <Trevor-Hemsley@dial.pipex.com>
On Thu, 02 Dec 1999 21:53:24 -0500, Albert O. Howard wrote:
->with default IBM1S506.ADD /W, get detection OK.
So now you need to make sure that you have the other lines I quoted
before.
Trevor Hemsley, Brighton, UK
(Trevor-Hemsley@dial.pipex.com or 75704.2477@compuserve.com)
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