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rea 2 nor rea 6-7 nor rea 9 nor ************ Topic 2 Wed Jul 22, 1992 C128.JBEE [* Sysop *] (Forwarded) Sub: Other networks, BBBs, & their software A place to discuss other types of networks, the programs needed to access them, and anything else you want. 36 message(s) total. ************ ------------ Category 8, Topic 2 Message 1 Wed Jul 22, 1992 C128.JBEE [* Sysop *] (Forwarded) Things about Usenet, QWK mail readers, text formats, or anything of that nature can be posted here. ------------ Category 8, Topic 2 Message 2 Thu Jul 23, 1992 B.ENNIS1 at 07:31 EDT I have a friend who is a sysop of a C-Net BBS and he is interested in how off- line readers for message bases operate. He would like to try to create one for C-Net 128 V6.0. ------------ Category 8, Topic 2 Message 3 Fri Jul 24, 1992 C128.JBEE [* Sysop *] at 01:58 EDT There was an offline reader for PC QWK mail uploaded to the C-128 telecom library earlier this month. Writing one isn't easy and requires the knowledge MS-DOS arc files. Making it part of a C= BBS system would probably be very tough. ------------ Category 8, Topic 2 Message 4 Sat Jul 25, 1992 CBM-ED [e.g.bell] at 12:16 EDT The way I understand things, the author of QWKK, the offline mail reader for the C128, used the LHX routine from CS-DOS somehow to dissolve the ARC'd packages. I haven't used the program, but after dissolving the packet I'd have to think the rest of the project would be a simple or elegant sequential file editor, right? But does your friend have some kind of hook that he can use to connect and call separate programs. ------------ Category 8, Topic 2 Message 5 Thu Jul 30, 1992 B.ENNIS1 at 23:45 EDT Not particularly. The C-Net software is always memory resident. It is not particularly easy to shut it down in favor of something else, and it uses most of the 128's free memory. /s ------------ Category 8, Topic 2 Message 6 Sat Aug 01, 1992 CBM-ED [e.g.bell] at 08:36 EDT I don't think you are going to be able to do anything with it then. At the very best, the dissolve routines are going to take up a lot of memory. ------------ Category 8, Topic 2 Message 7 Sat Aug 01, 1992 P.CATCHPOLE [Mike] at 09:53 EDT An offline reader for a commie, should probably use it's own format... for example, on a PC it's no sweat to run an archive program online. With the 64, it's really not possible, so the arc program has to be written internally.. LBR from greg pfoutz would probably work, since there is no compression.... If there is enough intrest, I might write an offline reader for color 64.... let me know if you would be intrested... it's a MAJOR task and not something I wish to attempt if nobody is going to use it. ------------ Category 8, Topic 2 Message 8 Sat Aug 01, 1992 C128.JBEE [* Sysop *] at 10:42 EDT Bellterm C-64 dissolves ARC files while it downloads them so it is possible to run a decompression program while online. ------------ Category 8, Topic 2 Message 9 Sat Aug 01, 1992 CBM-ED [e.g.bell] at 12:00 EDT A guy by the name of Andrew Malek has just released a program he is billing as an offline mail reader for the C64. I'm not sure of all the specifics but I'll report here as I get more information. In addition, a young man local to me has issued the first release of a BBS called Intelligentsia, now available on GEnie, that he says he has just about ready to support FIDO networking, so the use of mail readers is becoming more and more a topic of interest to users. You may want to consider doing one. You can no longer be the first, but then, DesTerm wasn't the first C128 telecommunications program, nor was Dialogue or Wizard 128 or GEOTerm, etc. In their way, each is best at something, or best overall, depending on a person's tastes/opinion. There is definitely interest and room for such a program, plus you get the satisfaction of doing it. ------------ Category 8, Topic 2 Message 10 Sat Aug 01, 1992 C128.JBEE [* Sysop *] at 18:31 EDT The last sentence and eight words are the best reasons. ------------ Category 8, Topic 2 Message 11 Sun Aug 02, 1992 P.CATCHPOLE [Mike] at 20:14 EDT Well, I tend to agree, but NOTHING is impossible. I don't know too much about CNET, since I ran color 64, but this should work with both... a LIBRARY file (.LBR) is made by strining all the files included together and putting a byte pointer at the top to tell how many bytes are in each file, and the filename/type. Something similar could be done to produce offline messages, as follows: 1. Create a file called "Messages" and appened to it the logon screen. Then send a control sequence ( something that the bbs editor can not enter.. control-n would be good for this in color 64, since that can not be typed--- it is used to seperate the email, and if it could be typed, it would be possible to forge email.... so you can't type it. ) 2. Add a control-n to the file, then append msg 1, with a header line, ie: #145 - AGeneral Discussions <msg> 3. seperate each message with a control-n, and imediately after the control-n, have info on replying to the message ( Topic / Message for Cnet ; Reply thread # for color 64) 4. bam. The file has been created, in a small amount of basic. Download it. 5. on the users end, the reader simply stops at each control-n and allows replies, quoted replies, etc. The problem with this format is that it will be incredibly slow to enter into the middle of a string of messages ( ie... if you download 100 messages, there WILL be a delay to start at message 50 of 100). This can be minimized by keeping the channel OPEN at all times the program is running. 6. The replies are stored in a similar format, only without header information. ***** There already exists a program for color 64 to do email offline. You need to download the entire mailbox file ( :private 2), read it, and then use the batch mail mod. It was designed for sysops, but with adaptation to public message bases would allow easy uploads of offline replies. It works like this: *2 Hi, user #2. This is a message to user 2. *55 Hi, user #55, this is a message to user #55. ==== the mod simply reads the thing into memory until it reachers a * line, sends the mail to that user, and keeps going. Something would need to be added to control the destination message area, but that wouldn't be difficult. ------------ Category 8, Topic 2 Message 12 Fri Dec 11, 1992 HOWIE-CBM at 00:16 EST I found the following which may be helpful: ------------------------------------------- Subject: QWKie/QMail fix From: bbs-artmoore@jwt.UUCP (arthur moore), The Matrix Date: Mon, 7 Dec 1992 04:03:07 GMT If you are using QWKie to read your QWK packets offline, you may have problems with Qmail doors. To remedy this problem, load the main program only, type POKE 3684,32. Now resave the main program (ame filename). Your Qmail problems should be history. ('Specially for you, MIKE!) ( ( Art Moore Usenet bbs-artmoore@jwt.uucp ) ) -or- bbs-artmoore@jwt.oau.org ( ( Fidonet CBM - Arthur Moore ) )__Ask me about the C64 qwk offline reader!__ ------------------------------------------- I have not tried this, so I'd suggest doing it only on a duplicate copy. Howie ------------ Category 8, Topic 2 Message 13 Wed Apr 21, 1993 G.NOGGLE [Greg] (Forwarded) Hmm I hope this is the right place for this. I am wondering if there was any fido net software ever written for the 64/128 If so where,who, and how much? Greg ------------ Category 8, Topic 2 Message 14 Wed Apr 21, 1993 HOWIE-CBM (Forwarded) Greg, Could you be referring to the QWKReaders? I think we have them here in the Library. Howie ------------ Category 8, Topic 2 Message 15 Thu Apr 22, 1993 G.NOGGLE [Greg] (Forwarded) Howie Could be,I know next to nothing about fidonet. I just found out that I had a node in the neigborhood and it got me curious! So a place to start looking is VERY welcome So I will take it a look. Thanks Greg ------------ Category 8, Topic 2 Message 16 Thu Apr 22, 1993 CBM-ED [e.g.bell] at 09:47 EDT Greg: Just to expand on Howie's message. You don't need special software to access FIDO. Any software you happen to use for GEnie can be used there. Some people like to call a FIDO board, download all the new messages, log off, and read and reply to them offline, then call back in, upload this reply packet, thus saving time on the phone. That is what the QWKRR and QWKIE (128 and 64 versions respectively) do. They are NOT telecomm programs per-se. They are more like file processors that let you create replies to messages. You will still need a terminal program, something to dissolve the packages once you get them (i.e. CS-DOS), and this prog. I personally use RTCMaster to dial in and read my mail. Many people also use DesTerm, Dialogue, NovaTerm, etc. ------------ Category 8, Topic 2 Message 17 Thu Apr 22, 1993 G.NOGGLE [Greg] at 20:30 EDT Ed: Perhaps I should have expanded on what I was looking for Although maybe I don't really know. I was wondering if there was a for the c= to access the different threads off a "backbone" or perhaps a better way to put can you run a fidonet board on a 64 or 128. Yes that is the way to put it Probally wishfull thinking seeing how I have given up of any reasonable way getting the commodore to handle a FTP feed. So I am greedy,sue me and see what you get :) Greg ------------ Category 8, Topic 2 Message 18 Thu Apr 22, 1993 CBM-ED [e.g.bell] at 23:25 EDT Yes, Greg... there is a program called VortexNet by Stephen Kunc that handles what you want. Don't have an address... it is like $25 for shareware to be a registered user I believe, and runs on a C128. ------------ Category 8, Topic 2 Message 19 Fri Apr 23, 1993 G.NOGGLE [Greg] at 00:09 EDT sounds like the ticket,thanks ED. Greg ------------ Category 8, Topic 2 Message 20 Fri Apr 23, 1993 HOWIE-CBM at 01:25 EDT I seem to recall seeing some good things (and a few minor probs) posted about VortexNet. In other words, the first release version seems to run quite nicely. Howie ------------ Category 8, Topic 2 Message 21 Fri Apr 23, 1993 CBM-ED [e.g.bell] at 02:24 EDT It is well beyond the first version release now Howie. Probably 3rd or 4th by now. ------------ Category 8, Topic 2 Message 22 Fri Apr 23, 1993 CMD-DOUG at 20:06 EDT Ed, have you seen the more recent release? Just wondering if he had ever gotten any partition support or high-speed modem support into the program. ------------ Category 8, Topic 2 Message 23 Sat Apr 24, 1993 B.ENNIS1 [Torby] at 17:39 EDT How can you get into contact with VortexNet author to see a demo of his program? ------------ Category 8, Topic 2 Message 24 Sat May 01, 1993 B.VRIELING1 [Bruce] at 18:43 EDT Stephen Kunc runs node 1:163/227, at phone number (613) 567-2128. This is in the Kingston/Ottawa area of Canada. ...Bruce GEnie: B.VRIELING1 Internet: bvrieling@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca Fido: Bruce Vrieling @ 1:229/15 ------------ Category 8, Topic 2 Message 25 Wed May 05, 1993 AMFORD at 22:13 EDT =-=-=-=-=-=-= From: Stephen Kunc Submitted: 03 Feb 93 13:51:00 Subject: VortexNet 128 Status: Public Received: No Group: COMMODORE COMPUTER CONFERENCE (35) I don't manage to get into this area very often, but I noticed your message and I've got a "Features" list here which is mostly sophistry and lies, but I'll import it to the end of the message anyway... VortexNet 4.7 Features List: ---------------------------- o full-featured BBS/Mailer package o FTS-0001 Network (Fidonet) compliant o supports 4 drives on-line with full sysop configuration o 80 column fast mode operation o 300/1200/2400 baud support o fast direct sector read/write message operation o provides 1398 messages on 2 dedicated 1581 disk drives o sysop-configured menus, opening, closing & bulletin screens o 3 individual access file-transfer directories w/ Xmodem-CRC o remote ANSI o 80K of cheesy documentation o 45 separate access-controlled message areas o includes off-line local Full Screen message editor o private e-mail mailbox section o fine-tuned individual message area options * optional quoting ability * seen-by & path line optional removal * anonymous features o CBM-ascii/ASCII text file importing w/ message exports o remote upload to message function o message 'crossposting' capability o Fidonet tested with echomail hubs using: * Binkley 2.4/2.5 * Frontdoor (all versions) * Opus (latest version) o routed netmail functions o receives file-attaches o accepts gated UUCPmail o full function userlog, message base and nodelist editors o supports user-written BBS modules (online & offline) o full editable new user application routines o on-line voting and trivia o on-line co-sysop editors o detailed system activity log o editable random quotes feature o includes two complete on-line games: * Chess: - supports entire userlog w/ 80 ongoing games * Citadel: - full featured 150 player 'real-time' economy/war game - 48x72 square full-terrain map - player controlled empire building - computer arbitrated alliances - full trade/warfare/marketplace economy o Fidonet dedicated support echo for direct help o continued software support and expansions planned o cute, single author prefers redheads The address is: VortexNet HQ 202-67 Cartier St., Ottawa, ON K2P 1J6 Canada Registered copies are $25, or 40 ounces of Wild Turkey. --- VortexNet v4.7a [1.1] * Origin: Nude Penguin Pictures On Sale Here ... (1:163/227) =-=-=-=-=-=-= ------------ Category 8, Topic 2 Message 26 Wed May 05, 1993 AMFORD at 22:19 EDT Well that did not format too badly... I asked on the Vortexnet bbs echo for some other bbs numbers, so hopefully that will be forth coming also. I don't think that he has yet done anything with CMD support, although he was encouraged to contact them to see if arrangments could be made. ------------ Category 8, Topic 2 Message 27 Fri May 07, 1993 C128.JBEE at 01:00 EDT Would be interesting to know if it has Swiftlink support. ------------ Category 8, Topic 2 Message 28 Fri May 07, 1993 CBM-ED [e.g.bell] at 03:06 EDT The last I corresponded w/Stephen Kunc (we are still talking about VortexNet, right) it did not, tho that could have changed since then. ------------ Category 8, Topic 2 Message 29 Thu May 13, 1993 AMFORD at 21:44 EDT Yep, VortexNet does not yet have swiftlink support. Nor does it support the REU, RamLink, or HD. The REU, RL and HD have all been used on it, emulating a 1541, 71, or 81, but the software does not take advantage of them. Just another poor software author supporting what equipment he has available. :) ------------ Category 8, Topic 2 Message 30 Sun May 30, 1993 R.MURPHY1 [Maharishi] at 12:43 EDT With regards to VortexNet, is there a demo copy available? I'm interested in seeing what this software has to offer but really don't care to spend $25 (even though that's minimal) on something I may not want to pursue. ------------ Category 8, Topic 2 Message 31 Sun May 30, 1993 CBM-ED [e.g.bell] at 20:08 EDT RM: RM> With regards to VortexNet, is there a demo copy available? RM> I'm interested in seeing what this software has to offer but RM> really don't care to spend $25 There was... the owners had a way they could scratch their config file and pass it along as demo ware, tho I don't know if that is still the case. I have a copy someone sent me like that, tho I'm not a user and don't know enough about it to do the same. Why don't you write to Stephen Kunc. I can try to dig up the address if you don't have it. ------------ Category 8, Topic 2 Message 32 Mon May 31, 1993 R.MURPHY1 [Maharishi] at 00:12 EDT Thanks! I'm running something right now but am always looking out for what's out there. Mostly this is for a frame of reference. Sound confusing? Nah. I just wanna know what's there. I pulled his address in Canada off of the description of VortexNet (Msg #25 I think) so I might just do that. ------------ Category 8, Topic 2 Message 34 Fri Nov 19, 1993 LLOYD at 01:45 EST I seem to be having problems with the Internet packets here on GEnie I can download the CBM files and un-zip them with no problems. But for subjects written on other computers, the files come out garbage. I've tried the QWKie utility, but it didn't help. Any ideas? Lloyd ------------ Category 8, Topic 2 Message 35 Fri Nov 19, 1993 H.HERMAN1 at 02:14 EST Lloyd, I am not sure I understand the nature of the problem from the description. I can only quess that the "other computer... files" you refer to are text, as opposed to the Commodore files which are program? If that is the case, be sure to issue an ASCII command before you do a GET. Howie ------------ Category 8, Topic 2 Message 36 Sun Nov 21, 1993 LLOYD at 13:32 EST I guess that I didn't make myself clear. I downloaded a few files from GEnie's Internet service, here. Their reffered to as packets passed around on different subjects. And there are several CBM packets. There are also packets on other subjects. Anything from business to astronomy, or Atari computers. I can dowload the CBM packets and read them fine. They are in real ASCII. They are un-zipped with the un-zipper available here. The packets on any other subject is the problem. They are un-readable. They have the appearance of being a compressed file. With these internet packets, you can send mail to your friends on CompuServe, or Prodogy, or elsewhere. You can receive them, too, if you can read them. That's not correct. When you get an internet message, it comes trough GEnie mail, I think. I know people on here use the internet service. What do I need to get going on this? Lloyd ------------ 8 ************ Topic 6 Sat Jan 08, 1994 D.KINING [deltar] at 20:19 EST Sub: programs in E-mail I've got the C= Hacking online magazine and it has programs in some sort of code that I know nothing about. What is it and how do I get the program out of the seq file? 7 message(s) total. ************ ------------ Category 8, Topic 6 Message 1 Sat Jan 08, 1994 D.KINING [deltar] at 20:23 EST I stated most everything in the description but here goes again. I have the C= Hacking issues that were available here and on Internet. Seems that there are programs in some wierd code that allows basic programs to be sent via E-mail. I have heard nothing about this coding before logging onto GEnie. What is it and how do I go about getting the programs in the C= Hacking seq files converted back into PRG files and is there a way to convert BASIC files to this code? I hope that there is something available on GEnie for the 64 but I have no idea what to look for in the directories. Deltar :) ------------ Category 8, Topic 6 Message 2 Sun Jan 09, 1994 H.HERMAN1 at 03:42 EST Deltar, UUXFER for the C64 and the latest version of ACE for the 64 and 128 will UUdecode those listings. I know that Fuzzy Fox's UUxfer is in the Library. I do not believe that the latest ACE is here though. Howie ------------ Category 8, Topic 6 Message 3 Sun Jan 09, 1994 D.KINING [deltar] at 22:08 EST Ok. I found the program. Works good for true ascii but not for PETASCII. I tried get the files out of the .SFX files that the first5 issues were in on here and all I got was end of file errors. The only file I was able to get any stuff out of was the issue # 6 that was 700+ blocks of true ascii. Does anyone have the original files in true ascii that they could upload? ------------ Category 8, Topic 6 Message 4 Mon Jan 10, 1994 C128.JBEE at 00:22 EST If you have a C-128, just load the Hacking files, delete everything but the program listings, rename the file, and then save back as ASCII CL text. Then use UU encode programs to extract the file. ------------ Category 8, Topic 6 Message 5 Mon Jan 10, 1994 C.TAYLOR37 [C=Hacking] at 21:59 EST Also, If you have a C-128 or C-64 for that matter - Do a library search for ACE written by Craig Bruce. It's a semi-unix-type environment and has a uudecoder that will handle either ASCII or PET-SCII uu-decodes... If it's not on here, lemme know and I'll arrange to get it uploaded... - Craig Taylor (editor) C= Hacking P.S. Issue 7 is coming out rsn (Real Soon Now...) prob. by end of the month. ------------ Category 8, Topic 6 Message 6 Tue Jan 11, 1994 H.HERMAN1 at 01:15 EST Craig, I am pretty sure that the latest ACE is not here. I have a copy of the original (ascii) somewhere, but I do not think that this is a suitable format for GEnie. Better to have everything already "programmed", and maybe bunched into some sfx's? Just my opinion... Deltar, After you convert the petascii to ascii, be sure to save each UUencoded file seperately. That is, save as many seperate files as there are UUencoded files. UUxfer will handle one UUencoded file at a time. ACE, on the other hand, as Craig notes will handle either ascii or petascii, and multiple UUencoded files, within one file. A major step up in enhancement. Howie ------------ Category 8, Topic 6 Message 7 Tue Jan 11, 1994 D.KINING [deltar] at 19:45 EST Well, I think that uuxfer can handle files with multiple uucoded programs in it cause it extracted all of the files in the issue #6 that was in true ascii.700 blocks long too. (got FD-2000 and C=64). I'll look to see if ACE is here as well. What I would like to see is the C= Hacking magazine in .ARC or.SFX format with each article seperated from the others and each program decoded into its runable program format. I may jusust do that with #6. Thanks for everyone's help though. I appreciate it. Deltar :) ------------ ************ Topic 7 Sat Nov 20, 1993 B.KIRKLAND (Forwarded) Sub: Modem Problem (1670 4dip) Could someone tell me what's going on? 5 message(s) total. ************ ------------ Category 8, Topic 7 Message 1 Sat Nov 20, 1993 B.KIRKLAND (Forwarded) For over two months now my modem would not connect to GEnie or any other BBS. It would give a lot of errors, as if I was pressing keys before pressing RETURN (I.e. after pressing return it would print a whole line of garbage and say it was in invalid response.) Anyway, I unplugged the modem for about 6 weeks, then today desided to try it again. It works without any problems so far. Is something wrong with my modem, computer, phoneline, or what? Bob. ------------ Category 8, Topic 7 Message 2 Sat Nov 20, 1993 CBM-ED [e.g.bell] (Forwarded) Bob: BK> as if I was pressing keys before pressing RETURN (I.e. after BK> pressing return it would print a whole line of garbage and say BK> it was in invalid response This sounds a lot like a noisy phone line. Maybe your phone company upgraded their equipment in the 6 week interim. Another thing that might have caused that, tho I doubt it would be at 1200 baud, would be inability of the modem to handle the baud rate. One sign of a modem going bad is when it starts sending a lot of UUUUUUUUUUUUUUU characters as I recall. ------------ Category 8, Topic 7 Message 3 Sun Nov 21, 1993 B.KIRKLAND (Forwarded) I forgot to mention: This also did not work: OPEN 1,2:PRINT#1,"ATDT" That should have made the dial tone sound in the speaker in the modem, but nothing happend. Like I said tho, everything works fine, for now. Bob. ------------ Category 8, Topic 7 Message 4 Sun Nov 21, 1993 CBM-ED [e.g.bell] (Forwarded) Bob: >>> This also did not work: OPEN 1,2:PRINT#1,"ATDT" >>> That should have made the dial tone sound in the speaker in the >>> modem, but nothing happend. The 1670 may not handle that without a delay between each of the characters. It has been a long time since I did any BASIC programming to send characters to the modem, but I kind of remember that the 1670 did require a delay after each character sent to the modem. ------------ Category 8, Topic 7 Message 5 Mon Nov 22, 1993 M.RANDALL2 [Maurice] (Forwarded) If this helps any, here is the basic loader I use when logging onto Q-Link. This first disables the speaker in the modem and then proceeds to load and run the QLink software. (I disable the speaker so that my wife can't tell when I'm running up the credit card bill) 10 open5,2,2,chr$(0)+chr$(0)+chr$(61)+chr$(1):forl=1to500:next 20 ms$="atm0":print#5,ms$+chr$(13) 30 for l=1to500:next:close5 40 %quantum Notice the delay after opening the channel to the modem, and then the next delay after sending the command to turn the speaker off. And then line 40 loads up QLink. I have JiffyDos, so the '%' works in my case to load 'quantum'. Where I placed the 'atm0', you could substitute the 'atdt' to initiate the dial tone. ------------ 8 ************ Topic 9 Sun Jun 20, 1993 W.WILEY2 (Forwarded) Sub: interface Supra 2400 modem? ideas? would like to use it with GEnie in C128; perhaps a kit or schematics? I just might forget Qlink if I get 2400 baud here... 15 message(s) total. ************ ------------ Category 8, Topic 9 Message 1 Sun Jun 20, 1993 CBM-ED [e.g.bell] (Forwarded) I use an Omnitronix interface with my Supra 2400 here on GEnie and have for YEARS. It is a good modem, and I'm sure any interface will make you a believer! ------------ Category 8, Topic 9 Message 2 Sun Jun 20, 1993 HOWIE-CBM (Forwarded) Well, I don't know how to build them. But you can buy them: (1) A SwiftLink from CMD, right here on GENie, or (2) An Omnitronix. I have no idea what is inside these interfaces. However both will let you use your Surpra quite nicely! Howie ------------ Category 8, Topic 9 Message 3 Sun Jun 20, 1993 M.NEUS [Neusoft] (Forwarded) If your on a budget, I've been using a device from Aprotek call the "Com- Modem" adaptor. Its not a true RS-232 interface, but it does the job very nicely. One drawback is you'll need a male to male straght cable (RS-232 ports on the computer are normally male, requireing a female to male cable). Anyway, they were about $20.00 three years ago, I'm sure the price has dropped substantially by now (I garentee they made a very very very very nice profit at $20, considering it probably cost about $5.00 to build). Mike ------------ Category 8, Topic 9 Message 4 Thu Jul 22, 1993 D.VIOLINO (Forwarded) Software Support has Aprotek Com-Modem adapters for $15.95. Also if you want to build one there is a file here that will tell you how. I don't remeber exact number but it should be between #10250-10254. These contain HACK4. A newsletter.I BELIEVE. Don't hold me to it. I thought about building 1 myself but the cost made it about the same as a Aprotek Com-Modem adapter. ------------ Category 8, Topic 9 Message 5 Thu Jul 22, 1993 W.WILEY2 (Forwarded) found old rs232 interface..can I use it? ------------ Category 8, Topic 9 Message 6 Thu Jul 22, 1993 W.WILEY2 (Forwarded) I found an old serial printer interface that is called "Data 20" from Data Corp. in So. Cal. In it's small manual it states that it is also used for interfacing non-commodore modems up to 2400 baud. Sure enough it does co- nnect up to both the user port AND the Supra 2400. But I guess I need some help in getting it to work still. As it is, no communication passes beyond the modem with any term s/w I have tried so far. Some defaults seem to have been set up on the modems 'non-volatile' RAM: 'HS' and 'AA' (-auto answer) are lit on power-up. Any ideas? Someone suggested I use Desterm for toggling some feature.*s ------------ Category 8, Topic 9 Message 7 Thu Jul 22, 1993 CBM-MARK (Forwarded) Well, the 'HS' being on means the modem is set to communicate at 2400 baud but I'm not sure how to turn off Auto-Answer other than through the software. You might try sending the modem AT&F which should write the factory default settings to the non-volatile ram and se if that turns off Auto- Answer. Mark ------------ Category 8, Topic 9 Message 8 Thu Jul 22, 1993 CBM-ED [e.g.bell] (Forwarded) I believe if you set register S0 to 0, you will disable auto-answer. That is the register that tells the modem what ring to answer on. ------------ Category 8, Topic 9 Message 9 Thu Jul 22, 1993 CBM-MARK (Forwarded) Ed, according to my modem's manual that's right ;) I missed reading that before. Thanks! ------------ Category 8, Topic 9 Message 10 Fri Jul 23, 1993 C128.JBEE (Forwarded) I think the main point of your message was that the modem is not receiving ANY commands from the computer, correct? Is so, I would like to point out generally any interface on the user port "should" be able to drive either a printer or modem. If by chance yours can not, we do have files in library #1 for building your own. ------------ Category 8, Topic 9 Message 11 Fri Jul 23, 1993 HOWIE-CBM (Forwarded) I have never heard of a "Data 20". However, if it is like any of the other dual purpose interfaces I've seen it will have either dip switches, or more likely, jumper switches internally that allow the user to switch its functions, between those of acting as a printer interface, and as one for a modem. Ostensibly, the jumpers will reverse many of the line input/output directions of various functions, affecting pins 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 12, 20 and 22. Follow your manual's instructions to set these jumpers (or dip switches) to their modem settings, and any Terminal program will then be able to communicate with your modem quite nicely. Howie ------------ Category 8, Topic 9 Message 12 Sun Sep 12, 1993 B.WALKER (Forwarded) I am new here, but have a commodore in the back room, I was so glad to see I can now download some great programs as soon as I get my hands on the com- modem adaptor. ------------ Category 8, Topic 9 Message 13 Sun Sep 12, 1993 C128.JBEE (Forwarded) There are some "build your own" plans in Library #1. If you own an IBM PC get the files uploaded by "JBEE". I believe "null-modem" as a search or "null" will pull them all up. ------------ Category 8, Topic 9 Message 14 Thu Oct 14, 1993 D.SCHWARTZ [FORBIN ONE] (Forwarded) Well, I don't know what happend but I tried one of those BUILD-IT- YOURSELF modem interface projects and it didn't work. I just kept my Supra-2400's Send and Receive lights on... I checked all solder points and tested the transistors and nothing was dead... Oh well... ------------ Category 8, Topic 9 Message 15 Mon Nov 01, 1993 W.WILEY2 (Forwarded) I ended up buying the Commodem adapter, since I can drive 30 min. from home to Software Support Int'l. It works GREAT! I just flip a switch to change from 1670 modem emulation to Hayes emulation, and all the work is done for me. I think I did need to use the Supras manual to set the defaults for its startup, but that took about 10 minutes. I thank you for the advice...it was perfect! -Will ------------ 8