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- would go to your target drive. Implication is that you should make sure
- at the start of a session that your counter is zero. To assure this,
- press C=z to see what the counter is set at. It is prepended to the
- filename.
-
- Easy answer to your question.... when you have to save that last buffer,
- just press ^w and it will go to the next REU bank in the auto-save
- sequence.
-
- As for your script problem, I believe what has happened, judging by your
- sample, is that you have an expect string in your reply string area.
- It is you sending the DNAMMOC string to GEnie. Let me explain. The logon
- scripts are in this format. The 'expect' string is stored backwards
- followed by a zero, followed by the expect string. There is no compiling
- necessary. I have always felt this adds a step that is kind of unnecessary
- and would have required me to write yet another bit of code. So if you
- look at a script, you will see things that look like that... the first part
- spelled backward, a zero, and then something spelled 'correctly' so to
- speak. It looks to me like what I said above... your 'expect' string is
- being sent as a reply. How it is happening I can't say. I would recommend
- that you use Mark's ScriptMaker program to dump a copy of the script to
- paper and check for this condition carefully. I'm almost positive you will
- find this to be the case. If not, as always, you can upload it to me and
- I'll look at it. You could also use Mark's program to 'print' your script
- to disk, edit out your id/password, then upload that if you like.
-
- btw, you might find another feature of 3.00 interesting and useful. I
- forgot to mention that there is now a toggle to switch off screen display
- during buffering... It is also available through your logon scripts with
- use of a token that Mark has probably not documented yet, ^v, but I'm
- sure anyone who buffers stuff like you do will find this useful. The
- buffer counter will still increment so you can tell things are coming
- in... just that no time is wasted printing it. :)
- ------------
- Category 8, Topic 18
- Message 25 Sun Jan 15, 1995
- N.ONEIL [Nate] at 13:27 EST
-
- dan t. and e.g.bell. Referring back to msg.6 and the carrier detect problem.
- To make Dan's fix work, I had to add DCLEAR to line 9. And, Ed, the mailbb
- script doesn't terminate, smiley stays put on the status line after
- "exiting" and the flagship bb menu appear. Havn't tried any other autolog
- scripts yet Of course, "STOP" does terminate the script Regards. Nate
- ------------
- Category 8, Topic 18
- Message 26 Sun Jan 15, 1995
- E.GBELL [e.g.bell] at 16:56 EST
-
- Nate: How do you have your bb prompts set? Are they 'non', or 'bri'?
- Since that is the script I use every day, I assume something must be
- different from what I have mine set for. Also, I have my scroll set to
- zero at the main GEnie settings page, tho for the first couple of years
- I didn't do that.
-
- I don't even know what the 'DCLEAR' command does? close all files?
- Is he 'mailbb' script you are using unedited... as I originally uploaded
- it or did you make any changes? If you like upload it and I'll try it out
- on my system... tho I'm using version 3.00... shouldn't matter much cuz I'm
- using all of my scripts from several versions back virtually unchanged.
- And the new version will likewise be backward compatible with all the old
- scripts... and only one change required if desired to add the ALTernate
- drive setting to the dflt. files.
-
- Anyway, Nate, given that you are getting as far as you are with the script,
- I'm sure you can see that the stuff does work. :)
- ------------
- Category 8, Topic 18
- Message 27 Sun Jan 15, 1995
- E.GBELL [e.g.bell] at 16:57 EST
-
- Cam.... the test files I've been uploading can be deleted as soon as you
- find it convenient to do so. They were used because of their small size
- for my tests.
- ------------
- Category 8, Topic 18
- Message 28 Sun Jan 15, 1995
- THE.OUTLAW at 19:33 EST
-
- Ok, Ed. Will do :>
- ------------
- Category 8, Topic 18
- Message 29 Sun Jan 15, 1995
- R.KIRK7 [Dick] at 20:49 EST
-
- All- sorry about putting the prompt in my earlier messages and messing up some
- subsequent script users. Adding the CR to your script does solve the problem
- as I did it once before and got my script ruined also.
-
- I will try to do better next time- if i can only remember things.
-
- E.G. - You are right about the DNAMMOC coming from the script itself. It is
- strange- I have no idea how it came about. Neither listing nor printing the
- script reveals any problem. A look at it with Servant does show that the
- applicable line does not have the @@@@@@@@ in it. Now to figure out how to get
- them in as Scriptmaker doesn't solve the problem. It may take a sector editor.
-
- The Ctr B takes care of my paging request- thanks - a single key would be a
- lot easier. (I know - what do I want - egg in my beer too)
-
- I can live with the Cmd Z to find out what bank I am in.
-
- Thanks alot for the help.
- ------------
- Category 8, Topic 18
- Message 30 Sun Jan 15, 1995
- R.KIRK7 [Dick] at 22:26 EST
-
- E.G.- Regarding my script sending DNAMMOC
-
- The problem is Scriptmaker.
-
- When I enter: REA ALL NEW CAT=45 NOR as a Response String it is one character
- too long - consequrntly there are no @@@@ in the next Expect String so it gets
- sent with the response.
-
- How does one create the reverse @@@@ used anyway? i.e. what is its character
- code for instance?
-
- cha,6/consequrntly/consequently/
- ------------
- Category 8, Topic 18
- Message 31 Sun Jan 15, 1995
- C128.JBEE at 22:51 EST
-
- If it is one character too long try this
- 7 all new cat=45 nor
-
- that will save you two characters.
- ------------
- Category 8, Topic 18
- Message 32 Sun Jan 15, 1995
- E.GBELL [e.g.bell] at 23:25 EST
-
- RK: We ran into that some time back. There is a way to do it in
- the script, but as you surmise, it would take a sector editor and a
- lot of patience. Currently, the expect/response strings are 30 chars
- combined... including the delimiter between them, the <CR>/zero on the
- end of the response, etc. You *could* make them longer, tho not as
- ScriptMaker is written. You could only have one such string in any
- CASE, and it would have to be the last one in the case, and obviously
- could not be any higher than the 4th sub case. The trick would be to
- let the response string extend into the next subcase and have no
- 'LTR##' entry, which Mark will understand as he is familiar with my
- source code. All of that is more work than you need to do, I'm sure. :)
- ScriptMaker is not designed for such tinkering, and I don't blame Mark
- for doing it that way. It would have been kind of difficult... perhaps
- in the future. If I were going to do it, I think I'd move each cASE into
- 150 byte strings, which would allow a LOT of manipulation, etc. as a
- 25 element array... just use mid$, left$, and right$ to separate the
- component parts of the cases.
-
- back to your problem... try John's suggestion. I've never seen it done
- like that (w/o the 'REA') command, but if it works... :).... Kind of
- wonder how it happens that your command gets sent at all w/o a <CR> at
- the end even after the 'DNAMMOC' thing? That might be a viable way to
- get it done tho if you are willing to twiddle w/a sector editor...
- swap the long string into the higher subcase (no higher than 4 tho),
- then add a <cr> and a zero at the end of it. That should work.
- (Did that make sense? Sorry to be so long about coming up with it!)
- ------------
- Category 8, Topic 18
- Message 33 Tue Jan 17, 1995
- N.ONEIL [Nate] at 23:31 EST
-
- Ed Bell Ihave my prompts set to 'brief' I mad no modifications to mailbb other
- than inserting the phone # DCLEAR does close all files but applies only to Dev
- 8. Line 45 of EZ.BOOT Bloads from the device whose number it learned by
- peek(186). But after file 2 was opened in line 5 file 2 is the the device
- most recently addressed. BLOADing from device 2 aborts the program. Dclear
- makes the device most recently to be 8. Which works OK if the prog was loaded
- from device 8. Everything with mailbb works OK except it won't termiate. I
- marvel at all it can do. Nate
- ------------
- Category 8, Topic 18
- Message 34 Wed Jan 18, 1995
- E.GBELL [e.g.bell] at 06:03 EST
-
- Nate:
- I have my prompts set for 'none', but I just tried my copy of mailbb
- with prompts set for 'brief' and it worked ok.... what is the last
- thing yours does successfully? Here is what it is supposed to do...
-
- If starting offline, it is supposed to dial the number and log you
- on, then it goes to get your mail and buffer it. Then it goes to
- the bulletin board and browses all new messages without prompting
- for replies... buffering all of this. Then, it is supposed to exit
- the bulletin board, go to get a list of the new uploads, again buffering
- all of this, and finally, return to the bulletin board and end
- the script. What does yours not do of all of the above? That is the
- first one I wrote, and just about the only one I use. :) Seems odd that
- it would go through some of it and not the whole thing.
-
- btw, if starting online, the script picks up at the part after the
- logon.... nice work Mark. :)
- ------------
- Category 8, Topic 18
- Message 35 Wed Jan 18, 1995
- R.KIRK7 [Dick] at 18:02 EST
-
- C128.jbee- your 7 took care of my REA ALL NEW CAT=45 NOR being too long
- problem. Do you have anymore of those shortcuts?
-
- I got into this problem because I was getting- Unrecognized command from GENIE
- in response to my script sending M625;1 for example. To solve this I added an
- Unrecognized command as a case to every Expect String. I apparently don't
- understand as RTCm doesn't seem to be responding. Typically I have (for
- example without the prompt)
-
- Case # 4 EXPECT STRING RESPONSE STRIMG
- a: (prompt) M625;1[m]
- b: Unrecognizd command [k]3
-
- Case # 5 a: (prompt) RAM 1-50 NOR[m]
- b: Unrecognized command [k]4
-
- What is the correct way to handle this problem?
-
- Thanks agin for any help.
-
- ------------
- Category 8, Topic 18
- Message 36 Wed Jan 18, 1995
- E.GBELL [e.g.bell] at 20:12 EST
-
- RK: I've never used the 'unrecognized command' thing. Just for my
- own curiousity, why do you use upper case 'M' in the 'M625;1' thing?
- I always use lower case, tho I don't know that it matters at all.
- Is it just for demonstration?
-
- Maybe this weekend I'll give it a try by sending commands that do not
- exist... thereby forcing that situation. :)
- ------------
- Category 8, Topic 18
- Message 37 Thu Jan 19, 1995
- CBM-MARK at 00:01 EST
-
- Ah, yes, I forgot about that 30 character limit that ScriptMaker has for
- each CASE string. That was brought to my attention when I wrote
- the original version and neglected to fix that in the latest one. Shouldn't
- be too hard to fix that when I get to updating ScriptMaker. Just need to
- trap for a 31+ character string and have ScriptMaker move on to the next
- CASE string prompt. Forcing that extra long string as the last
- subcase in the CASE. A couple more things would have to trapped for
- but all easy enough to do ;)
-
- I see I have to check the current version, I *thought* I had trapped
- for string length and wouldn't allow anything over 30 :/
-
- Another way you could do 'REA ALL NEW CAT=45 NORm' is like this with
- imbedded carriage returns: 'SET 45mBRO NORm'
- I think that's about as short as you can get it ;>
-
- ~~Mark~~
- ------------
- Category 8, Topic 18
- Message 38 Thu Jan 19, 1995
- E.GBELL [e.g.bell] at 06:07 EST
-
- MD> need to trap for a 31+ character string and have ScriptMaker
- MD> move on to the next CASE string prompt. Forcing that extra
- MD> long string as the last subcase in the CASE
-
- Just remember to terminate everything w/zeroes. Each CASE structure
- follows the previous one immediately. I would also suggest moving the
- structures into their own array element, which would make it extremely
- easy to move them around, delete them, etc.
-
- ex:
- 995 for case = 1 to 25
- 1000 for x=. to 149
- 1010 : bank 0:case$(case)=case$(case)+chr$(peek(case#+x)):bank 15
- 1030 next
- 1020 next
-
- It would be a little more complicated than that because 'case#' would
- have to be a 25 element array also containing the start address of each
- case. But such an arrangement would be one way to include commonly
- used structures as insertion options.... for example, an option to
- add a 'read all new BB messages' case that is already made and would
- work in any RT. You would also have to account for the associated
- LTR, QUEUE, and TIMEOUT stuff, but your code already does that anyway
- making it an easy adjustment.
-
- There is one new token for 3.00 too, token 'v', which toggles screen
- display on/off during operation. :)
- ------------
- Category 8, Topic 18
- Message 39 Thu Jan 19, 1995
- C128.JBEE at 12:05 EST
-
- Would screen length make a different and stop the script while it waits at
- " <RETURN>, <S>croll, <Q>uit ?"
- ?
- ------------
- Category 8, Topic 18
- Message 40 Thu Jan 19, 1995
- C128.JBEE at 12:11 EST
-
- That is the only shortcut I can think of at the moment :)
-
- Though I use BRO NOR and just IGN PERM any category I am not interested
- in reading as long as I visit the BB every 60 days.
- ------------
- Category 8, Topic 18
- Message 41 Thu Jan 19, 1995
- R.KIRK7 [Dick] at 19:10 EST
-
- E.G.: The caps in my example were just for demo. I don't use them in the
- actual script. I get an 'Unrecognized command' from GENIE almost every call.
- It usually occurs about my third page change and RTCM sends out my second
- respnse string rather than executing the one for 'Unrecognized command' which
- makes me wonder if changing the order would make any difference?
-
- CBM-MARK: The actual response string I am using is:
- [a][d]rea all new cat=45 nor[m]
-
- When I add another Expect String to this case it gets sent (in reverse) with
- the response string. I believe because my response string uses up all the
- space and there isn't any nulls to identify a change.
-
- I use a [m] plus the GENIE prompt as the Expect String and didn't think I was
- up to the 30 limit. Anyway I like your example as another way to accomplish my
- task. Thanks. I didn't know I could chain the responses like that.
-
-
- ------------
- Category 8, Topic 18
- Message 42 Thu Jan 19, 1995
- N.ONEIL [Nate] at 22:27 EST
-
- EB> the bulletin board, go get a list of the new uploads Ed, My impatience
- was my trouble. Thought the script (mailbb) ended when all new messages were
- caputured and the script exited the Bulletin Board. Reran the script tonight
- anad waited patiently. These 3 system msgs displayed:
- Timeout Case #7 p625
- Timeout Case #8 Library
- Timeout Case #9 RETURN
- ***Script Terminated Successfully***
-
- If I remember correctly, each msg ended with a '?'
-
- I'M simulating the Quoter Overlay since I cou:dn't get it to work Loaded ur
- last msg into buffer. Hilited desired quote. Press 'Q'. Pressed CMDR-Q.
- Prssed ESC. Went on line to p625;1. Set 8. REA 18 34. Entered REP Pressed
- CTRL-F (prssed CTRL-left arrow on a retry). Instead o f the quote appearing on
- line I got '>End of Quoted Text<' :( ::groan:: Damn. It's a pwerful prog
- with damn useful functions. But the learning curve frustrates mE.
-
- BTW, when it gets the list of new uploads does it capture them in the buffer?
- THen it must be the descriptive text, right? Don't believe any was in my
- buffer after the las new BB msg. Thanks for you patience, Ed. really
- appreciate it. Nate.
- ------------
- Category 8, Topic 18
- Message 43 Fri Jan 20, 1995
- E.GBELL [e.g.bell] at 05:57 EST
-
- John:
- JB> Would screen length make a different and stop the script while
- JB> it waits
-
- Shouldn't. Before I set my scroll length to zero, I used to use the=
- script to navigate those very prompts. I went to scroll 0 to cut down
- the number of things the script had to worry about, but also to make sure
- that I got the same setting in all RTs.
-
- RK> I get an 'Unrecognized command' from GENIE almost every call.
- RK> It usually occurs about my third page change and RTCM sends
- RK> out my second respnse string rather than executing the one for
- RK> 'Unrecognized command' which makes me wonder if changing the
- RK> order would make any difference
-
- Good idea. I don't have an answer for you in either case. As always, if
- you want me to test the script upload it to my mailbox and I'll give it a
- try.
-
- RK> CBM-MARK: The actual response string I am using is:
- RK> [a][d]rea all new cat=45 nor[m]
-
- RK> When I add another Expect String to this case it gets sent (in
- RK> reverse) with the response string. I believe because my
- RK> response string uses up all the space and there isn't any
- RK> nulls to identify a change.
-
- You are exactly right as to what is happening. As to why, I'd have to
- see the script, but the response itself takes 25 characters. The
- expect could take a maximum of 3 for this reason... the expect string
- and the response string each have to be null terminated. Can't go with
- a carriage return because some responses get sent w/o one.
-
- Nate:
- NF> These 3 system msgs displayed:
- NF> Timeout Case #7 p625
- NF> Timeout Case #8 Library
- NF> Timeout Case #9 RETURN
- NF> ***Script Terminated Successfully***
-
- That is not really good, Nate. But I can see you are working with an
- older version. I believe it used to be that when a case timed out, it
- skipped to the next case, which should not have happened. I think what
- is happening is that your script is terminating successfully because of a
- bug in the version you are using. However, if you typed things
- faithfully as they appear, the p625 thing *may* be the problem for you.
- I use P_625?, which is the command mode prompt, though mailbb should also
- handle either mode. However it looks like you are timing out first
- while waithing for 'p625', which is never going to occur. Use Mark's
- program to dump a copy of the script to paper and see if this is in fact
- what the problem is. Alternately, you could use Mark's program to edit
- the script to end at case 6, before it 'EXIT's the bb to check the new
- uploads.
-
- NF> I'M simulating the Quoter Overlay since I cou:dn't get it to
- NF> work Loaded ur last msg into buffer. Hilited desired quote
-
- It takes some getting used to apparently. You are not the first person
- to have trouble learning it. It will not be released with version 3.00.
- The Editor has a quoter function built in that is more powerful than the
- original overlay, and you can go into split screen mode, where the text
- message, etc. you are quoting is in one window and the communications
- with the modem are in the other window. It is somewhat easier to use,
- IMO.
-
- NF> BTW, when it gets the list of new uploads does it capture them
- NF> in the buffer?
-
- Yes, but your script never got that far Nate. The timeouts were, as I
- said above, RTCMaster telling you it was not getting what it wanted.
- It never got to the point of getting that list.
- ------------
- Category 8, Topic 18
- Message 44 Fri Jan 20, 1995
- R.KIRK7 [Dick] at 18:02 EST
-
- Here is another suggested improvement for the next RTCM version - if it
- doesn't already exist that is.
-
- Have a capability to disable the sending of a carriage return with every
- response.
-
- To explain- I like to use RTCM on local BBS to capture messages. On those
- boards with Hot Key capability only the carriage return along with each
- command causes a skip to the next menue and makes it almost impossible to use
- the BBS.
-
-
- ------------
- Category 8, Topic 18
- Message 45 Fri Jan 20, 1995
- E.GBELL [e.g.bell] at 18:23 EST
-
- RK> Have a capability to disable the sending of a carriage return
- RK> with every response.
-
- I use RTCM everywhere too RK, and the ability you desire has been in
- the program since the beginning. Instead of pressing RETURN when you
- have typed your response, use SHIFT-RETURN. That will send the buffer
- but no carriage return.
-
- One of the benefits of using RTCM for other areas is that the Ymodem
- batch uploads work with all BBSs, including the Amiga ones which have
- given DesTerm problems (through no fault of DesTerm).
-
- Incidentally, you can use the same SHIFT-RETURN feature to send several
- lines of text in conferences if you like, instead of breaking long
- messages down into several separate sends. If your greeter is on, however,
- it will trigger GEnie to see the text buffered there waiting for your
- carriage return.
-
- It is nice to have something someone wants already in the program! :)
- ------------
- Category 8, Topic 18
- Message 46 Fri Jan 20, 1995
- R.KIRK7 [Dick] at 19:37 EST
-
- E.G. - Thanks for the offer to test my script. It is esently the same as one
- you have tested in the past so it would be a waste of your time.
-
- CBM-MARK - Ah ha- 'expect and response strings have to be null terminated'
-
- Does that mean one can really input only 28 characters? I used 25 in the
- response string and 4 in the expect string so that must be what caused me the
- trouble. (I thought 25 and 4 added up to 29 not 31)
-
-
- ------------
- Category 8, Topic 18
- Message 47 Fri Jan 20, 1995
- E.GBELL [e.g.bell] at 23:07 EST
-
- RK:
- RK> Does that mean one can really input only 28 characters? I used
- RK> 25 in the response string and 4 in the expect string
-
- Yes, RK, only 28 characters, and that must include the carriage return
- if one is desired. There is no other way to do it. The logon scripts
- are rather structured in terms of construction... there are 25 'CASE's
- each being made up of 5 'sub-cases'. Each sub-case is 30 characters
- long, making a CASE 150 characters. The expect string is not really
- limited in size otherwise, but must be null terminated. Same as the
- reply string, tho the 2 ideally should be 28 characters combined or
- less. It is possible to get around this limit with the proper coding,
- but I'm not sure the results would be useful to enough people to make
- it worth doing. :)
- ------------
- Category 8, Topic 18
- Message 48 Fri Jan 20, 1995
- CBM-MARK at 23:55 EST
-
- I think I know what is going wrong with ScriptMaker. Currently it will
- allow you to enter only a total of 28 characters for each expect-response
- string. This allows for the null termination of the expect string and the
- response string to use up the remaining 2 characters for a total of 30.
- The way I *think* I make sure that the 30 charater limit is not exceded
- is by using RIGHT$ string manipulation which I see now if that is the case
- it could be possible to cut off the null byte terminator of the response
- string. It's the "<CR>y/n" prompt that allows a 29th character to be
- entered. The 2 null bytes would added after that giving a total of 31
- characters.
-
- I'll have to take a closer look at my code and see if I'm correct in what
- I think I did wrong. That "<CR>y/n" prompt may have to go since an ALT-M
- will embed a carriage return.
-
- As for chaining a number of responses such as "SET 8^mBRO ALL^m", that only
- works in the BB's on GEnie as far as I know.
-
- ~~Mark~~
- ------------
- Category 8, Topic 18
- Message 49 Sat Jan 21, 1995
- E.GBELL [e.g.bell] at 09:26 EST
-
- That'd do it Mark. :) And is exactly the kind of thing I do all the
- time w/my programs too. Just takes someone to find it!
- There is a way to do it that would guarantee things were always right
- if you are interested... I would make a string consisting of 30
- chr$(0)'s. Then, after all creation is done, you could:
-
- subcase$=left$(left$(subcase$(x),29)+zstring$,30)
-
- I probably dropped a paren somewhere in that, but you probably see what
- is going on. The bad side of such a technique is that while you would
- trap entry errors, the user could be doing some serious head-scratching
- wondering why his stuff was losing 1 character. :)
- ------------
- Category 8, Topic 18
- Message 50 Sun Jan 22, 1995
- J.BARBER9 [Dan Barber] at 00:03 EST
-
- Is RTC m MAster ever going to be on a 64?
-
- Dan
- ------------
- Category 8, Topic 18
- Message 51 Sun Jan 22, 1995
- C128.JBEE at 09:51 EST
-
- There will be a newer GEnie terminal program for the C-64, but no RTCM128
- type program is planned. I really do not see where anyone can improve
- much on Novaterm and I rather see everyone send Nick his money instead
- of splitting the market.
- ------------
- Category 8, Topic 18
- Message 52 Sun Jan 22, 1995
- E.GBELL [e.g.bell] at 11:20 EST
-
- If everyone involved was willing to cooperate, I'd be willing to work
- with Nick if he was interested in doing an overlay or something for NT
- to emulate some of the stuff that RTCMaster does (like the greeters, etc)
- but that would presuppose Nick would even be interested in such a thing.
- Nick has a LOT of stuff crammed into NovaTerm. Even going to ML, the
- program does a lot and takes a lot of memory. But if there were interest
- and everyone was agreeable, I'd help as much as possible.
- ------------
- Category 8, Topic 18
- Message 53 Sun Jan 22, 1995
- CBM-MARK at 22:32 EST
-
- EB> if you are interested... I would make a string consisting of
- EB> 30 chr$(0)'s. Then, after all creation is done, you could:
- EB> subcase$=left$(left$(subcase$(x),29)+zstring$,30)
-
- I believe I *do* have a string of 30 chr$(0)'s set up and use
- something like this to, what I thought, would make things right:
- subcase$=left$(subcase$(x)+nu$,30)
-
- Soon as I get some time this week I'm going to look ScriptMaker over.
- Sheesh, here I thought I had it working 100% ;>
-
- Thanks all for pointing this problem out to me!
-
- ~~Mark~~
- ------------
- Category 8, Topic 18
- Message 54 Mon Jan 23, 1995
- E.GBELL [e.g.bell] at 05:27 EST
-
- Mark:
- MD> something like this to, what I thought, would make things
- MD> right: subcase$=left$(subcase$(x)+nu$,30)
-
- You probably already saw this, but the example above will correctly
- pad all strings except one that is 30 characters exactly to start
- with. Something like this would work, tho....
-
- subcase$=left$(subcase$(x)+nu$,29)+chr$(0)
-
- Since no case should be longer than 29 characters anyway.... the
- text stuff anyway. :)
- ------------
- Category 8, Topic 18
- Message 55 Mon Jan 23, 1995
- C128.JBEE at 07:13 EST
-
- The proper way to sign onto GEnie at 9600.
-
-
- Wait for the connect, do not send the HHH, look for either the 9600 or
- 9600 ARQ prompt, and only send your user ID at the U# prompt.
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- Message 56 Tue Jan 24, 1995
- C128.JBEE at 03:59 EST
-
- Nate,
- Regarding your fuzzy screen, there was a Magnavox monitor advertised as "CGA"
- which meant it worked in "CGA" 320x200 mode and it was not well suited for
- 80 column text and graphics since it had a maximum line resolution of
- 580 pixels, or somewhere around that figure, instead of 640 pixels per line.
- So 80 column screens looked fuzzy on that monitor. I just thought I would
- mention it in case you are banging your head against the wall trying to
- improve something that you can not.
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- Message 58 Tue Jan 24, 1995
- D.SMITH123 [doug] at 19:46 EST
-
- I I cant get it to work please email thansks
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- Message 59 Tue Jan 24, 1995
- CBM-MARK at 22:57 EST
-
- Ed, I made a couple of changes to ScriptMaker so now it will *refuse* to allow
- over 28 characters in an expect-response string, plus the 2 null bytes. Took
- me longer to fix than I thought it would. A misgiuded GOTO was messing it up
- for me ;>
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- Message 60 Thu Jan 26, 1995
- N.ONEIL [Nate] at 20:59 EST
-
- JB> Regarding your fuzzy screen, there was a Magnavox monitor
- JB> advertised as "CGA" JBEE, thanks for your suggestion. The problem
- wasn't the monitor but the screen font (Roman, with all the serifs). Screen
- is clear with CBM font
- or EASY READ font. BTW, my Magnovox is labeled 'RGB DIDSPLAY 80'. Thanks
- again. Nate
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- Message 61 Sun Feb 05, 1995
- C128.JBEE at 00:39 EST
-
- How do I implement 19.2 or 38.4 bps using a null modem adapter.
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- Message 62 Sun Feb 05, 1995
- E.GBELL [e.g.bell] at 07:35 EST
-
- John:
- JB> How do I implement 19.2 or 38.4 bps using a null modem
- JB> adapter.
-
- As written, you don't. I would have to modify the 'swift.obj' file to
- allow those options. I don't think it would be that much of a change,
- but it would have to be assembled.
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- Message 63 Sun Feb 05, 1995
- D.TUOMI [Doctor] at 07:42 EST
-
- I've had some luck with 19.2kbps and 38.4kbps using DesTerm and Dialogue.
- Although out of the two of them only DesTerm seems to achieve anything close
- to a full 38.4kbps. Dialogue seems stuck at 1100 cps.
-
- Doc.
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- Message 64 Mon Feb 06, 1995
- C128.JBEE at 00:50 EST
-
- Using RTCM128 via a null modem I get almost 1500 cps, using Dialogue 128
- at 9600 or 19.2 does not make much difference and I can not get it to go to
- 38.4 at all.
-
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- Message 65 Mon Feb 06, 1995
- C128.JBEE at 00:54 EST
-
- Is there anyone using RTCM128 with a 9600 modem? I seem to lose characters
- at the beginning of topics every once in a while. I have my modem set to
- both hardware and software flow control and I am wondering if that is the
- problem.
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- Message 66 Mon Feb 06, 1995
- G.NOGGLE [Greg] at 01:06 EST
-
- Yes I do,and Idon't believe swiftlink uses the hardware handshaking lines. Not
- sure if that would cause the problem though,I haven't notice that,but I don't
- use rtcm as reguaallary for the BB as you do. Pretty sure about the hardware
- shaking not being implemented though
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- Message 67 Thu Feb 09, 1995
- C128.JBEE at 03:36 EST
-
- I am trying GEnie using the > as the default prompt and also as the
- overlay prompt. My messages seem to be getting to GEnie okay but while
- they are being posted the screen fills with garbage characters.
-
- my text in the buffer looks like this:
- set 8
- reply 18
- Some text here ...
- and here.
- *sn
-
- It appears to work fine, but just looks wierd while it runs.
- I am using the editor (thank you Mark!) like so:
- Control M
- E
- control m (modem mode)
- control backarrow
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- Message 68 Thu Feb 09, 1995
- C128.JBEE at 03:59 EST
-
- Well, I found out the problem was the <HEL>p prompt and setting it to
- NONE works so I can automate the posting of all messages, except for
- starting a topic which gets a bit messed up from the <-------topic name----->
-
- Still, pretty cool and fast :)
-
- Now, at 9600, I am missing text and complete topics, but it seems to
- happen in the same place with the same topics when doing it with READ,
- but not at 2400. I think maybe the text is coming too quick and GEnie
- is not responding quick enough to the xon/off?
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- Message 69 Thu Feb 09, 1995
- E.GBELL [e.g.bell] at 05:55 EST
-
- John:
- JB> My messages seem to be getting to GEnie okay but while they
- JB> are being posted the screen fills with garbage characters.
-
- Do you have a delay after each character? And you might find it helpful
- to have the program switch into full duplex while sending to screen all but
- GEnie's messages.
-
- You might also, if you ever get to trying it out, try the script language
- to do this.
-
- As for the 9600 thing... I really have to work on the sl interface code
- so as to support RTS/CTS. Maybe I'll do that after I finish up what I'm
- working on right now. If I'm able to finish what I've started, it will be
- much more useful to more people anyway. :)
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- Message 70 Thu Feb 09, 1995
- C128.JBEE at 08:52 EST
-
- Yes,
- I am using the maximum delay (5) and a line delay of 60. I am going to
- give it another autopilot run later.
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- Message 71 Fri Feb 10, 1995
- E.GBELL [e.g.bell] at 06:07 EST
-
- Try toggline the echo too. That won't help w/lost characters, but it
- will cut down on the trash onscreen. As I said, I'm going to look into
- hardware flow control after I'm done w/the project I'm working on now.
- I am sure it is not that big of a project... but just have to figure
- out where all it needs to be tied in. :(
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- Message 72 Mon Feb 13, 1995
- H.HERMAN1 at 05:34 EST
-
- Ed,
-
- > I am sure it is not that big of a project... but just have to figure
- > out where all it needs to be tied in. :(
-
- ha! ha! ha!
-
- He's said THIS before... :)
-
- Howie
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- Message 73 Mon Feb 13, 1995
- E.GBELL [e.g.bell] at 07:28 EST
-
- :) Long as I keep saying it... :)
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- Category 8, Topic 18
- Message 74 Tue Feb 21, 1995
- E.GBELL [e.g.bell] at 18:28 EST
-
- I have just uploaded version 3.00 of RTCMaster. This has been in testing for
- awhile, and as 2.04, it is no longer available for just downloading. You
- have to make your arrangements w/Parsec to get it. I do want to say, tho,
- that there is a brand new overlay which is one of the most powerful I have
- written in terms of what it does and convenience it offers. I'm not going
- to tell you what it is just yet... just that I am extremely happy with it
- and what it does. :)
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- Message 75 Tue Feb 21, 1995
- C128-QT.PIE at 20:50 EST
- p