This is the second part of the Nick Rossi conference. This is the dialogue that took place when the conference was officially over. The editing was done by Tim Hewelt (GEOS-TIM) and Sherry Freedline (C128-QT.PIE).
<D.WARD13> Nick, do you still use Aprotek's BBS. Do they still have one?
<[Nick Rossi] CBM-PRESS> Are those BBS's long distance for you?
<[Bill] G.GUNTER> Nite everyone
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<[Nick Rossi] CBM-PRESS> I haven't called Aprotek's BBS, but I think it's still up.
(GEOS-TIM) I'll be back in a minute......
<D.WARD13> I was just curious.
<S.EYRSE> Just Seattle..but I have a discount. And the term progam is fast.;)
<[Tim Phelps] D.PHELPS1> Or BRB, Tim. :)
<[Nick Rossi] CBM-PRESS> I have the number around here somewhere, if you'd like... Gee, what I wouldn't give for a long-distance discount... :-)
<D.WARD13> Don't need it. I have it in 9.3's DOCs
<S.EYRSE> PTI has a discount package..and Tacoma is local for Genie..bak
<[Nick Rossi] CBM-PRESS> By the way, I should have mentioned this before, with the address and such...
(GEOS-TIM) Go ahead, I'll get it in the transcripts
<[Nick Rossi] CBM-PRESS> I wrote the new address. My Q-Link account will be cancelled soon. The best place to reach me electronically is: "voyager@eskimo.com" on Internet
<[Nick Rossi] CBM-PRESS> I'll soon be setting up an FTP site for Novaterm on Eskimo North also.
<[Nick Rossi] CBM-PRESS> You'll FTP to "eskimo.com" and it'll be in a public directory...
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<[Nick Rossi] CBM-PRESS> But that hasn't been set up yet. :)
<[Nick Rossi] CBM-PRESS> There's a lot of C= activity on Internet.
<[Nick Rossi] CBM-PRESS> (Heck, there's a lot of every kind of activity on the Net)
<S.EYRSE> It's all the people dumping Q and suddenly finding a WHOLE new world.....
<[Tim Phelps] D.PHELPS1> :)
<[Tim Phelps] D.PHELPS1> Actually, :D
<[Nick Rossi] CBM-PRESS> Yeah, and I'm hoping Novaterm can open the Internet to many C-64 users.
<[Nick Rossi] CBM-PRESS> My own access to Internet is what drove the development of the ANSI and VT102 emulations.
<[Nick Rossi] CBM-PRESS> ...and the Kermit protocol, too.
<[Reub] R.NEAZER> Where is Internet?
<[Nick Rossi] CBM-PRESS> It's everywhere!! ;-)
(GEOS-TIM) You have internet access from GEnie.
<[Reub] R.NEAZER> Number??
<[Nick Rossi] CBM-PRESS> You need to find a local Internet access provider.
GEnie offers e-mail, and Delphi offers many Internet services (but menu-driven)
<[Tim Phelps] D.PHELPS1> I'm currently reading the Comp.sys.cbm Internet/Usenet newsgroup and will be
<[Nick Rossi] CBM-PRESS> But the best way is to have an account on a Unix system that provides full access.
<[Tim Phelps] D.PHELPS1> posting into the newsgroup as soon as a local BBS get a satellite feed.
<[Tim Phelps] D.PHELPS1> It also has Internet E-mail but that's only for subscribers, which I'm not
<[Nick Rossi] CBM-PRESS> Most large cities have systems like this. You do have to pay for it.
<S.EYRSE> I'll have to get the latest copy of the N.W. computer user to see if someone is close here
<[Tim Phelps] D.PHELPS1> one of. However, I am using that void here on GEnie.
<[Reub] R.NEAZER> Thanks nick
<[Nick Rossi] CBM-PRESS> Every college & university, most large corporations, many small ones, nonprofit organizations, etc...all over the world are all connected
<[Nick Rossi] CBM-PRESS> Eskimo North has a whole bunch of phone lines - they go at least as far south as Kent/Des Moines.
<[Tim Phelps] D.PHELPS1> Yes. The university I went to has Internet. I had a temporary account via a
<[Reub] R.NEAZER> You mean it's not FREE?? :)
<[Tim Phelps] D.PHELPS1> political science teacher.
<[Nick Rossi] CBM-PRESS> Tacoma: 927-3218
(GEOS-TIM) I have been thinking of having a night of Internet chat.
<[Tim Phelps] D.PHELPS1> Well, it depends. For example, some BBSs offer, like the one local to me that
<[Reub] R.NEAZER> That would be nice,Tim
(GEOS-TIM) It appears it is a topic that folks are interested in
<[Tim Phelps] D.PHELPS1> will be picking up the satellite feed, offers free access to the Internet/
<[Tim Phelps] D.PHELPS1> Usenet newsgroups but you have to be a subscriber to the BBS if you want to
<[Nick Rossi] CBM-PRESS> Personally, I think everyone should get Internet access...at least to newsgroups, e-mail, and IRC.
<[Tim Phelps] D.PHELPS1> use the Internet E-mail feature.
<[Nick Rossi] CBM-PRESS> It's a real step toward getting the whole world interacting and communicating.
<[Nick Rossi] CBM-PRESS> It's going to be the basis for whatever future system is developed (by government intervention, grumble grumble)
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** <[Chuck] C.GRIFOR> was <C.GRIFOR>.
(GEOS-TIM) Rehi Chuck
** <[Maurice] M.RANDALL2> was <M.RANDALL2>.
<[Maurice] M.RANDALL2> I forgot to change my name.
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9 Jamesburg,NJ 6 N [Reub] R.NEAZER
10 Charlotte,MI 6 N [Maurice] M.RANDALL2
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<[Nick Rossi] CBM-PRESS> I think communication is extremely important, and Internet is one of the most powerful tools for communicating with people all over the world. (Have I made my point yet? :-)
<[Reub] R.NEAZER> Like we didn't know who you were ....:)
(GEOS-TIM) LOL....Are you on a soap box?
<[Tim Phelps] D.PHELPS1> I try to get on as many BBS nets as possible. (I'm on three that supports
** <[Chuck] C.GRIFOR>, Job 3 hand is raised.
<[Nick Rossi] CBM-PRESS> I guess I am :-) But perhaps you can understand part of my motivation for writing Novaterm in the first place
<[Tim Phelps] D.PHELPS1> the Commodore computer.) :)
(GEOS-TIM) Chuck....you don't have to raise your hand....jump in
<S.EYRSE> I'm off for moments be back on. steve...
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<[Chuck] C.GRIFOR> OK, how do I get on internet without going through here?
(GEOS-TIM) Michigan Exchange
<[Chuck] C.GRIFOR> Is there a local number to use?
<[Chuck] C.GRIFOR> "It's National Gorilla Suit Day!"
(GEOS-TIM) I'll Email you the number....don't have it handy
<[Chuck] C.GRIFOR> OKey FDOkey Tim
(GEOS-TIM) We sure have covered a range of topics tonight.:D
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<[Chuck] C.GRIFOR> What's that drooling under your bed?
(GEOS-TIM) My Dog
<[Nick Rossi] CBM-PRESS> But many of them related to telecommunication, which is really the issue here...
(GEOS-TIM) Yes...Novaterm has put the 64 user in a good position to get use out of telecomm. sources
<[Nick Rossi] CBM-PRESS> That's the intent!
<[Nick Rossi] CBM-PRESS> BTW, how would I sent e-mail to GEnie from Internet?
<[Chuck] C.GRIFOR> I wish there were an 128 program with all the features of Nova Term.
(GEOS-TIM) And Swiftlink has helped edge up the baud ceiling
<[Tim Phelps] D.PHELPS1> Yes. Imagine all the people who have stopped using their C64's (say before '89
(GEOS-TIM) Just send to the persons internet address.
<[Nick Rossi] CBM-PRESS> At the risk of diverting users, I think Desterm does a good job for the 128.
(GEOS-TIM) Mine is geos-tim@genie.geis.com
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<[Chuck] C.GRIFOR> Desterm however has one very nasty little flaw for certain uses.
(GEOS-TIM) I really like Dialogue. The I/O buffer is real handy
<[Nick Rossi] CBM-PRESS> What's that?
<[Tim Phelps] D.PHELPS1> and are left out of the C64 telecommunications revolution.
(GEOS-TIM) A term for the 128
<[Chuck] C.GRIFOR> You mean the "flaw" Nick?
<[Reub] R.NEAZER> I use Desterm and dialogue somtimes. NT is the most user friendly of all..
<[Nick Rossi] CBM-PRESS> yes, what's the flaw?
<[Reub] R.NEAZER>
(GEOS-TIM) NT...What is NT? Oh...LOL Novaterm.
<[Tim Phelps] D.PHELPS1> In fact, I was talking to an IBM sysop, who was a former C64 user, and he
(GEOS-TIM) Boy...how soon I forget....They say the mind goes first.
<[Nick Rossi] CBM-PRESS> A lot of epeople just can't afford to upgrade from their old C-64...if they can spend $20 on Novaterm but can't spend $500 on a 386, then it's worth it to them...
<[Chuck] C.GRIFOR> It's in the "chat mode" the dialogue as writeen stays on the split screen after trasmission and has to be deleted--at least when I tried using it over here.
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<[Tim Phelps] D.PHELPS1> didn't know that the C64 can display ANSI, read mail offline, go as fast as 38,400 baud and so forth (and using Y-modem)
(GEOS-TIM) Amazing, isn'T it?
<[Nick Rossi] CBM-PRESS> All of those things have come in the last four or five years to the C-64
<[Nick Rossi] CBM-PRESS> Before that, there wasn't such a big need for it, or else someone would have done it, I suppose...
(GEOS-TIM) And folks like CMD keep coming up with new hardware.
<[Tim Phelps] D.PHELPS1> Yes, it impressed him so much that he wanted to get a copy of the C64 emulator
<[Tim Phelps] D.PHELPS1> that he heard about and try all of the new features.
<[Nick Rossi] CBM-PRESS> I only wish I could have done it all earlier...but back then, I was much younger and didn't really comprehend the size of the tele-world out there...
<[Maurice] M.RANDALL2> I've gotta run before my wife realizes how much I'm running up the phone bill.
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<[Chuck] C.GRIFOR> I recently have been attempting to use an A***a--if the C128 had been that difiicult I'd have never bothered to do this at all.
(GEOS-TIM) Night Maruice
(GEOS-TIM) Hi QT
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<[Nick Rossi] CBM-PRESS> (Well, not done ALL of it - just the things I did :)
<[Chuck] C.GRIFOR> Night Maurice.
<C128-QT.PIE> Re's Tim & All :)
<S.EYRSE> Well that makes my day. Turn you IBM into a Commodore for speed.
(GEOS-TIM) Night Maruice
<C128-QT.PIE> Bye Maurice!
<[Chuck] C.GRIFOR> Hi Hi QT Pi
<[Maurice] M.RANDALL2> See you all later, and I'll send you another disk Chuck.
<C128-QT.PIE> Hiya Chuck!
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<[Chuck] C.GRIFOR> Really--show me an IBM as fast as my RamLinked 128!!!
<[Nick Rossi] CBM-PRESS> people returning?
(GEOS-TIM) Yes.
<C128-QT.PIE> BRB
<[Tim Phelps] D.PHELPS1> Maybe at the computer for too long? :)
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<S.EYRSE> Nick people come and go a lot here due to all of the areas that are open..
(GEOS-TIM) QT is on an errand for me.
<S.EYRSE> Sure send someone out for a soda and don't ask if anyone else wanted anything.
(GEOS-TIM) Oh, I'm sorry...LOL
<[Chuck] C.GRIFOR> What A guy--and he doesn't even own a Gorialla Suit!!
(GEOS-TIM) So, Nick if you tackle some of those improvements, How long before we will see
<[Chuck] C.GRIFOR> Look its Captain Marvel!
(GEOS-TIM) them do you think?
<C128-QT.PIE> Hmmm...do I know how to quiet a crowd or what?
(GEOS-TIM) We were talking about you
<[Nick Rossi] CBM-PRESS> six months down the road, maybe...
<[Chuck] C.GRIFOR> David Letterman's wearing a Smoked Salmon jacket.
(GEOS-TIM) That soon? I'm impressed
<[Nick Rossi] CBM-PRESS> With the C-64 emulator in its final form (assembler, debugger, etc) it'll be a lot easier.
<[Nick Rossi] CBM-PRESS> I can do it all on my 386.
<C128-QT.PIE> I bet it smells, Chuck
<[Nick Rossi] CBM-PRESS> ...but I need registrations to continue...
<[Chuck] C.GRIFOR> Not from here--he just demonstarted the Tonyia Harding Nut Cracker.
<[Nick Rossi] CBM-PRESS> I work part-time so I can spend time on a big TV project, so Novaterm has to bring in something
<[Tim Phelps] D.PHELPS1> I'm going to try to spread the word on Fidonet, Rimenet and Comp.sys.cbm (the
<[Chuck] C.GRIFOR> That's enough, you all are getting serious--so I'll see you later Tim.
<[Tim Phelps] D.PHELPS1> latter when I have the option to post).
(GEOS-TIM) LOL....night Chuck
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<[Nick Rossi] CBM-PRESS> If I can get a hold of a C compiler on the PC that produces 6502 code, you may see a Novaterm 10.0 in all ML, hopefully faster than ever.
<[Nick Rossi] CBM-PRESS> Again, it all depends.
(GEOS-TIM) That would be great....You know, Nick, You might want to leave a message on the BB about that.
<[Nick Rossi] CBM-PRESS> I'm hoping the European translations will revive registrations. The 64 is still very popular there.
<S.EYRSE> well I got ta go folks.. Talk to you latter..Night..
<C128-QT.PIE> G'night Steve!
(GEOS-TIM) There is a Topic string in TElecommunications just for Novaterm
(GEOS-TIM) Night Steve
<[Nick Rossi] CBM-PRESS> Bye Steve...
(GEOS-TIM) Sevet
(GEOS-TIM) Steve
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<C128-QT.PIE> uggh, Tim :)
(GEOS-TIM) I seem to be having trouble moving my typing fingers. :D
<C128-QT.PIE> giggle
<[Nick Rossi] CBM-PRESS> I'll put together a short form message about possible future features, along with a request for registrations... if that sort of thing is allowed here.
(GEOS-TIM) I don'T think that would be a problem.
(GEOS-TIM) JBEE will be in shortly, you might want to ask him...
<[Nick Rossi] CBM-PRESS> I'll take the opportunity to browse the C-64 area here, answer questions...help me consider getting an account again :) There wasn't much activity when I used to be on GEnie, as far as Novaterm was concerned, but if that's changed..
<C128-QT.PIE> I think you may see that it has changed :)
<C128-QT.PIE> Our Bulletin Board area is quite active
(GEOS-TIM) GEnie Commodore area is in a growth spurt
<C128-QT.PIE> Along with our Libraries
<[Tim Phelps] D.PHELPS1> With the degrading of Qlink, I've heard that the C= Roundtable here on GEnie
<[Nick Rossi] CBM-PRESS> That makes sense
<[Tim Phelps] D.PHELPS1> has increased in activity tremendously.
<[Nick Rossi] CBM-PRESS> (about QLink)
<C128-QT.PIE> I think it has...I've been meeting quite a few new people
(GEOS-TIM) Yes.....
<[Nick Rossi] CBM-PRESS> And it's $1/month less?
<[Nick Rossi] CBM-PRESS> I mean, less!
<C128-QT.PIE> :)
<[Nick Rossi] CBM-PRESS> What kind of new stuff has been uploaded?
<[Tim Phelps] D.PHELPS1> Less than the $9.95 on Q, yes.
(GEOS-TIM) Yes...and if you use your buffers wisely, you can check boards, mail etc.
<[Nick Rossi] CBM-PRESS> Can I log in at high speed? Didn't you say 9600, Tim?
<C128-QT.PIE> well, in the last week I've released geoPaint clip art
(GEOS-TIM) really cheap...especially with 2400 baud
<C128-QT.PIE> some file compressors, a few demos, and etc
<[Tim Phelps] D.PHELPS1> Well, for one thing the .qwk mail readers, QWKIE and QWKRR.
(GEOS-TIM) Yes..
<[Nick Rossi] CBM-PRESS> What's 9600 cost? Any different?
(GEOS-TIM) Yes...the 9600 is more
<[Tim Phelps] D.PHELPS1> Yeah, but 9600 baud is only available in limited areas. Also, it does cost.
<[Tim Phelps] D.PHELPS1> I'm using 2400 here on GEnie.
<GEOS-TIM) but if you used it for buffering boards and DLs it would save you money in the long run
<[Nick Rossi] CBM-PRESS> If I'm just answering mail & uploading (Novaterm stuff) 2400 may be enough
<C128-QT.PIE> I capture all my e-mail and BB messages in my buffer and read them all off-line
<[Nick Rossi] CBM-PRESS> Hmmm...how much more is the monthly charge, and the hourly charge?
<[Tim Phelps] D.PHELPS1> bak
(GEOS-TIM) 9600 access is about $18 I think
<[Nick Rossi] CBM-PRESS> (I REALLY like my high-speed modem :)
<[Tim Phelps] D.PHELPS1> OK. The surcharge for 9600 baud is $6/hour.
(GEOS-TIM) Oh...I guess mine is a bit high. LOL
<[Tim Phelps] D.PHELPS1> The charge is $8.95 per month with four hours of "freetime" and $3/hour thereafter.
<C128-QT.PIE> hmmm...I'll go check that out...brb
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(GEOS-TIM) QT will give us the up to date info
<[Tim Phelps] D.PHELPS1> This of course excludes any surcharges that may apply.
<[Nick Rossi] CBM-PRESS> It's a tough choice, because I spend $8/month for my Internet account, which is 14.4kbps and everything else...I'll take a look though. Q-Link was worth it just to keep up with user questions, because I used to answer at least one question per month from someone who then registered.
(GEOS-TIM) I know you will probably get at least that here.
<[Nick Rossi] CBM-PRESS> I'd be nice to get back to that again. :)
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<[Tim Phelps] D.PHELPS1> (such as using Sprintnet, 800 service, extended network (some GEnie numbers
<C128-QT.PIE> It is indeed, $6/hr
<[Nick Rossi] CBM-PRESS> Does that $6/hr surcharge apply to those first four free hours?
<[Nick Rossi] CBM-PRESS> (Aren't I a stickler? I just want to know the scoop :)
<[Tim Phelps] D.PHELPS1> are free, though, such as the one I'm calling from) and the weekday daytime charges.
<[Tim Phelps] D.PHELPS1> Yes, I believe so.
<C128-QT.PIE> you are allotted 4 hrs of standard connect time charges
(GEOS-TIM) I know one thing, I really like some of the various areas that are available
<C128-QT.PIE> so I believe you'd be charged $2/hr
(GEOS-TIM) on GEnie...like Germany and Japan....
<C128-QT.PIE> for
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<[Nick Rossi] CBM-PRESS> There's still a single line for a chat buffer...some users said incoming text was overwriting it, but I couldn't get that to happen.
<[Nick Rossi] CBM-PRESS> At least with 9.5.
<C128.JBEE> yea, had it happen to me, maybe 9.5 will be different. Its C= Y for chat mode?
<[Nick Rossi] CBM-PRESS> C= Q, but it only works in "standard" terminal mode.
(GEOS-TIM) That's all you need for GEnie, though...
<[Nick Rossi] CBM-PRESS> Would be impractical with ANSI or VT102 because
<C128.JBEE> I knew it was in QWERTY somewhere ;>
<[Nick Rossi] CBM-PRESS> you usually get full-screen displays that would overwrite a chat line..
<[Nick Rossi] CBM-PRESS> But chat modes that use VT102 or ANSI (like Internet's IRC) provide you with a chat line at the bottom anyway, making the rest of the screen its own scrolling region.
<C128.JBEE> does your ANSI handle color?
<[Nick Rossi] CBM-PRESS> Sure does...you get the problem where adjacent characters have to be the same color, though - that's just a limitation of the 64 itself.
<[Nick Rossi] CBM-PRESS> Most people don't seem to mind.
<C128.JBEE> yes, understand about VT102 - use to use DEC machines
<C128.JBEE> you use 80 col bitmap characters for VT102 and ANSI?
<[Nick Rossi] CBM-PRESS> YEs.
<C128.JBEE> good :) Does it work with Swiftlink okay?
<C128.JBEE> BTW: what are you using now?
<[Nick Rossi] CBM-PRESS> Yes, there was a bug in 9.4 that wouldn't let you switch to the alternate addressing modes, but it's been fixed
<[Nick Rossi] CBM-PRESS> I'm on my 386 now...switched to Novaterm when users asked about the chat line, but I'm back now.
<[Nick Rossi] CBM-PRESS> I'm still having a problem with my 1541s...they are out of alignment and I wanted to capture this session...I can't save things on the 1541s without getting errors
<C128.JBEE> did you ever do the permanent alignment by putting the pin across the spindle?
<[Nick Rossi] CBM-PRESS> No, but I've heard about it. I basically know nothing about the drives. I do know someone who's going to fix them though.
<C128.JBEE> ditch them and get a 1581 :)
<[Nick Rossi] CBM-PRESS> Just to let you know...I've only got a couple minutes left, I promised the roommates I'd be off the phone at 10pm :-)
<[Nick Rossi] CBM-PRESS> How much are 1581s going for these days?
<[Tim Phelps] D.PHELPS1> Or a FDxxxx drive. :)
<C128.JBEE> about $60-80 used - $110 new
<[Tim Phelps] D.PHELPS1> (The FD 2000 go for $175, I think.)
<C128.JBEE> I understand ! I just wanted to get a drop on that chat mode thing :-)
<[Nick Rossi] CBM-PRESS> Sheesh...I wish C= stuff would get as cheap as PC stuff :)
<C128.JBEE> Tim, that sounds about right ...
<[Tim Phelps] D.PHELPS1> I think the FD4000 drive cost about $25 more.
<[Nick Rossi] CBM-PRESS> Any other questions before I have to get going?
<GEOS-TIM> I have the advertisement right here
<C128.JBEE> actually, FD-4000 tops about $300 :P I still got one though to back up my HD
<C128.JBEE> :D
<C128.JBEE> nope, I will read the transscript!
<C128.JBEE> LISSSP^
<C128-QT.PIE> :)
<GEOS-TIM> Thanks a lot for staying Nick.
<[Nick Rossi] CBM-PRESS> Okay, thanks for the guest pass, I'll be browsing later on...I think the conf went all right...?
<GEOS-TIM> Hold it for a minute Nick
<C128-QT.PIE> It went GREAT, Nick!!!
<[Nick Rossi] CBM-PRESS> :)
<C128-QT.PIE> Thank you very much for joining us tonight! :)
<GEOS-TIM> It has been great....
<[Nick Rossi] CBM-PRESS> No problem, I will talk to you all again, I'm sure!
