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rea 8 1-40 nor ************ Topic 8 Sat Aug 12, 1989 N.ROSSI at 22:37 PDT Sub: Novaterm for the C-64 Any questions, comments, bugs, or other ramblings about Novaterm, I'm here to help! 96 message(s) total. ************ ------------ Category 8, Topic 8 Message 1 Fri Aug 26, 1994 WIRED at 15:45 EDT Is there anyway to make the chat buffer larger on nove 9.5? Its jus too small. ------------ Category 8, Topic 8 Message 2 Sat Aug 27, 1994 S.EYRSE [steve] at 02:07 EDT WIRED::bigger buffer..make your online responces shorter..and in that way perhaps better. I have noticed the more room WE ( I include my self ) get to type things the more talkey we get..Steve :) ------------ Category 8, Topic 8 Message 3 Sun Aug 28, 1994 N.ROSSI [Nick Rossi] at 05:05 EDT The chat buffer size is fixed at 160 characters. It would be possible to increase that sie in the future. ------------ Category 8, Topic 8 Message 4 Fri Sep 02, 1994 WIRED at 01:41 EDT I need the larger buffer for chat. An auto macs would be nice. So would a scroll back. :) ------------ Category 8, Topic 8 Message 5 Fri Sep 02, 1994 C128.JBEE at 02:51 EDT Ed would have to verify this for me, but I am pretty sure as long as you do not send GEnie a carriage return in a RTC, GEnie allows you to send up to 255 characters before sending your message to the room. ------------ Category 8, Topic 8 Message 6 Fri Sep 02, 1994 CBM-ED [e.g.bell] at 09:11 EDT Wired: WI> larger buffer for chat JB> as long as you do not send GEnie a carriage return in a RTC, JB> GEnie allows you to send up to 255 characters before sending JB> your message to the room I think it is even higher than that... may be up to 512 characters... But the thing is you should be able to send long messages with a buffer smaller than the total size of the message by using GEnie's buffer in this manner.... just type the first part of your message and press shift-return, then the next part, etc. When done, press RETURN. Now, keep in mind when you press SHFT-RTRN that your message is not going to be displayed by GEnie in chat.... you will only see the message when you finally press RETURN. The *only* snag in this scenario is if NovaTerm will not allow you to use a shift-return. The way I do it in RTCMaster: once my 160 character 'chat' buffer fills up, it is automatically sent to GEnie, but without a carriage return (or you can press shift-return at any time to do this also) and the buffer clears and you can resume typing... at the end you press RETURN. I suppose now you will have to wait to hear from Nick to see if this is possible, the shift-return that is. Even on local boards, this works for me nicely because their message editors format it correctly similar to the way chat does... ------------ Category 8, Topic 8 Message 7 Sat Sep 03, 1994 N.ROSSI [Nick Rossi] at 04:13 EDT Hmm. I think you will get a carriage return even if you press shift-return. I wasn't aware that shift-return had that effect. I'll keep that in mind. Perhaps I can post a simple fix here, so that if you press return, a return gets sent with the line, and if you press shift-return, everything EXCEPT the return is sent. ------------ Category 8, Topic 8 Message 8 Sat Sep 03, 1994 CBM-ED [e.g.bell] at 08:17 EDT That would do the trick if there is a simple fix. ------------ Category 8, Topic 8 Message 9 Sun Sep 25, 1994 B.MASSE [BIG BOB] at 22:52 EDT I have been waiting for an edited copy of the last Nick Rossi real time conference... is it in the library yet...? Usually I can find them about 2 days after the conference has happened. Bob ------------ Category 8, Topic 8 Message 10 Mon Sep 26, 1994 GEOS-TIM at 00:37 EDT Bob, Sorry, It's my fault, I got real busy at work and didn'T quite get finished with them. I should have them up in a couple of days as I get some light at the end of my "real" work tunnel. :) -Tim ------------ Category 8, Topic 8 Message 11 Tue Oct 04, 1994 D.PHELPS1 [Tim Phelps] at 00:02 EDT Nick, I found out one problem that I was having which was with the RTS/CTS problem when using disk commands. It seems that I set my baud rate too high. It was at 38.4k. But I've lowered it to 19.2k and I haven't had any problems since. I think you mentioned in your 9.5 manual to set the baud rates to 19.2k but when I received 9.5 I automatically switched to 9.5 from 9.4 without thinking of checking the manual just in case I have any difficulties. So if anyone reading thi had trouble getting a modem connection after doing a disk command with the flow control being set to RTS/CTS, be sure that your modem rate is set at no higher than 19.2k. However, I still have one problem which has to do with saving buffer files when using the scripts (although this could be the computer at fault). When the buffer saves a file to disk with a script running, the program will crash after incoming text is executed. Is there any way I could avoid this such as writing an extra script command? Thanks. ------------ Category 8, Topic 8 Message 12 Wed Nov 30, 1994 R.KIRK7 [Dick] at 18:54 EST I recently ran across a program titled 128 Novaterm on an out of town BBS and didn't get a chance to download it. Is it one of yours? If so what are some of its features and is it on GENIE by a different name by any chance? ------------ Category 8, Topic 8 Message 13 Wed Nov 30, 1994 THE.OUTLAW at 19:17 EST Dick, I think the 128 version your refering to is this: Number: 6717 Name: NOVATERM2.0.SDA Address: CHANTECLER Date: 890325 Approximate # of bytes: 52920 Number of Accesses: 230 Library: 26 Description: This is the final version of Novaterm. This version supports 2400 baud operation. It does not have multifile transfer. The 40 column mode has been changed to a RGB emulation mode. The buffer can now load and transmit a text file.Other improvements have been made. This release is FREEWARE. Keywords: novaterm,2400 baud,color graphics,punter,xmodem,terminal I looked at this quite some time ago. This is Not Nick Rossi's work. I do remember thinking after I looked at this, That Nick's was much better! And of course current! :> ------------ Category 8, Topic 8 Message 14 Sat Dec 17, 1994 D.PHELPS1 [Tim Phelps] at 21:13 EST Just read on Fido that Nick Rossi said on another network that he plans to release NT 9.6 which will be a shareware version of the program and NT 10.0, a commercial version. He has put in a lot of features in and the 9.6 upgrade should be available in about 90 days. This, in my opinion, is all fine and dandy but I have one question: Is true? And if it is, could you, Nick Rossi, confirm this? I hate to rely on second- hand sources, especially the first hand source is right here on GEnie. By the way, you are still there are you, Nick? I haven't seen a word from you in a couple of months. :( ------------ Category 8, Topic 8 Message 15 Sun Dec 18, 1994 R.NEAZER [Reub] at 00:57 EST This is not first hand, but I can tell you what I heard (with my own two eyes):)) If I heard what I think I saw, there will be a NT 10.0 out sometime before the end oof the first half of '95'. This will be a commercial pgm. 10.0 will be a complete re-write of NT. He wasn't sure whether he would implement all the changes at once or a little at a time. I can't see him writting a commercial pgm. then upgrading a little at a time. When he was asked about 9.6 he said there wouldn't be a 9.6, that the next release would be 10.0 (if I remember correctly). But I think something was said about some upgrades to 9.5. But if he's going to release a commercial pgm. I would imagine all the goodies going into it. Some of the goodies being the REU being used as buffer space and 'fax-send' capability. Tried getting a hold of the transcript to see exactly what was said but it wasn't available... .............Reub ------------ Category 8, Topic 8 Message 16 Sat Dec 24, 1994 N.ROSSI [Nick Rossi] at 15:08 EST First rule: Don't ever believe anyone who says something about a specific timeline like "90 days". :) The next version of NT will be 10.0, and I'm rewriting the remainder of the compiled-basic portion in assembly...and adding stuff from there. I have a nebulous time target of around mid-'95. Of course, progress depends on how busy I am with work :) It comes and goes... There hasn't been much to reply to here. Don't know if that means there are no questions or few users... ------------ Category 8, Topic 8 Message 17 Sat Dec 24, 1994 THE.OUTLAW at 15:28 EST What goodies do you have in store for version 10.0? ------------ Category 8, Topic 8 Message 18 Sat Dec 24, 1994 D.PHELPS1 [Tim Phelps] at 19:20 EST Maybe not too many questions. Not too many on Fido either. Ig guess ervverybody is satifsfied with your program. :) ------------ Category 8, Topic 8 Message 19 Sat Dec 24, 1994 B.FINKELSTEI [BradleyF] at 23:57 EST Well novaterm is one of the recommended term programs to use on the Phoenix BBS and those of use who use it there have few complaints :) ------------ Category 8, Topic 8 Message 20 Tue Dec 27, 1994 B.FINKELSTEI [BradleyF] at 22:28 EST Another user I know asked me to relay this question to Nick Rossi -- will there be another C128 version of Novaterm? Thanks ------------ Category 8, Topic 8 Message 22 Wed Dec 28, 1994 D.PHELPS1 [Tim Phelps] at 10:40 EST Bradley, you may want to read message number 13 for an answer to your question. :) ------------ Category 8, Topic 8 Message 23 Fri Dec 30, 1994 B.FINKELSTEI [BradleyF] at 22:27 EST Ok Tim, thanks :) ------------ Category 8, Topic 8 Message 24 Mon Jan 02, 1995 R.REEVES at 23:50 EST I have encountered a couple of problems when I use Novaterm. First, when using the break command (C= X), the message "sending a break ..." appears on the screen but GEnie will not reset itself to the menu screen. Second, I have my GEnie password in the autodial menu. When I connect to GEnie, I have to manually type in my password. Is there an easier way to send the password? Thanks :) ------------ Category 8, Topic 8 Message 25 Tue Jan 03, 1995 D.PHELPS1 [Tim Phelps] at 00:24 EST About the break command, do you mean GEnie doesn't reset after you issue a few breaks or just doesn't respond to a break. If it's the latter (another instance when GEnie won't respond to a break is when you try to halt the listing of text, such as a library listing. If it's that, then you have to go to the setup menu and adjust the break setting. I forgot what the number is for it though. Anyway, this would replace the disable the COntrol-C on your keyboard but will let you use Novaterm's break command (C= X). If it['s the former then what I THINK it is is GEnie itself. In that situation, you would have to hang up. When you say the password do you mean the HHH command or your password? If it's the former, then I don't know what to say since even I have had trouble there. If it's the latter, then I'm not really sure on what you mean. However, there is a better way to sign on to GEnie and that is using a script to call the service. Here's the script I use: .opt ansi check 1 "CONNECT" wait output "HHH" check 2 "U" wait output "<your password info>" output "^m" This is assuming you're calling GEnie using Novaterm's ANSI terminal mode. I've been meaning to upload some Novaterm scripts one of these days (if it's all right to Nick<G>). Oh, I almost forgot. The above script will take you to the opening menu. ------------ Category 8, Topic 8 Message 26 Tue Jan 03, 1995 THE.OUTLAW at 11:43 EST R.Reeves: Novaterm allows you to use the F1 key in the Autodial Menu for your ID & PW. After you get the Connect 2400 you will type the HHH and then press your F1 key to send your ID & PW. To correct your Break key, go to the SETTINGS page (Type SETTINGS at any main menu prompt) and follow the options. Set the break value to 3. This will be CONTROL C. DON'T forget to SAVE your settings! ------------ Category 8, Topic 8 Message 27 Tue Jan 03, 1995 R.NEAZER [Reub] at 17:24 EST You may need to go to Pg. 900 (think it's 900;3) and enter the ASC value of the key that you select as your break key. I use the pound key as my break key, so I enter The ASCII value (92) at that option. To send the password that you entered in the autodial menu press the 'F1' key. Your p/w is assoigned to that key. You can save a few keystrokes by assigning 'hhh' to your 'F2' key (or any other 'F' key) and pressing 'F2', 'F1' after dialing up..............Reub ------------ Category 8, Topic 8 Message 28 Tue Jan 03, 1995 D.PHELPS1 [Tim Phelps] at 22:13 EST I don't know what happened but it seems that there were no hard returns after each line of my script program. To avoid that, let me write it again but this time when you see a slash ("/"), that will signal you to press return and begin on a new line. Revised script: .opt ansi/check 1 "CONNECT"/wait/output "HHH"/check 2 "U"/wait/output "<your password info>"/output "^m"/end By the way, in message 25, it should be if it's alright with Nick. ------------ Category 8, Topic 8 Message 29 Wed Jan 04, 1995 N.ROSSI [Nick Rossi] at 03:18 EST By all means, post your scripts! It would be nice to have a GEnie login script available for download. I could include it in the next release. One thing people sometimes don't realize is that you have to COMPILE the script before trying to execute it. In older versions, you need to use the "Script compiler" program to compile the script into a form Novaterm can interpret. Starting with version 9.4 (is that right?) the script compiler is built into the text editor, so you can type in a script and compile it directly by pressing RUN/STOP in the editor. Is there a transcript of the last Novaterm conference available? I think I talked a little about new features. My rewrite in assembly is basic basically complete, I've been working on changes and features now. Nick ------------ Category 8, Topic 8 Message 30 Wed Jan 04, 1995 GEOS-TIM at 18:58 EST Nick, >>Is there a transcript of the last Novaterm conference available? If you are talking about the one in my RTC, the filenumber is #16573. It is in library 1. I'm not sure why it ended up in there, I must have been tired. LOL :) -Tim ------------ Category 8, Topic 8 Message 31 Wed Jan 04, 1995 CBM-MARK at 21:06 EST That conference transcript (file #16573) is now in Lib 33 ;D If you are set to 'All Libraries' (#61) you won't have any problems finding it. ~~Mark~~ ------------ Category 8, Topic 8 Message 32 Sat Jan 21, 1995 D.PHELPS1 [Tim Phelps] at 12:07 EST Someone in the RTC last night, I forget who he was now, said that when he saves the config. file in NT 9.5, the program would crash after a subsequent use. I personally haven't had this problem. Has anyone else? ------------ Category 8, Topic 8 Message 33 Sat Jan 21, 1995 D.PHELPS1 [Tim Phelps] at 20:16 EST Nick, I was thinking. As you may know by now, there's a new fax program that should be available by now, or later in the month, called, "geoFax." My question is this, will the "send fax" module you're thinking of implementing be compatible with Group III, class 1 faxes? ------------ Category 8, Topic 8 Message 34 Sat Jan 21, 1995 J.BARBER9 [Dan Barber] at 23:58 EST When the 9.5 buffer fills, does it leave a little space for over flow (to give the host a chance to stop)? Or the buffer fill up totally and dumps it to disk and when the host finally stops you might have lost a line or two? Thanks in advance. :) Dan ------------ Category 8, Topic 8 Message 35 Sun Jan 22, 1995 D.PHELPS1 [Tim Phelps] at 01:09 EST When the buffer fills up, NT stops the text from comming in. Then NT saves the buffer to disk. When it's done saving, NT resumes the text flow. I haven't noticed any loss of text. ------------ Category 8, Topic 8 Message 36 Sun Jan 22, 1995 R.NEAZER [Reub] at 21:31 EST Whenever my NT 9.5 buffer fills up and it dumps it to disk I lose 2-4 lines. Questioned Nick about it and he thinks the host is not recognizing the X-off soon enough. He suggested to use a hardware X-off if possible. He said he would look into issuing a series of X-off. With NT 9.4, using swiftlink would eliminate the problem. But with 9.5 and S/L I still had the problem. Only tried S/L with 9.5 once or twice cause my S/L died about that time. ------------ Category 8, Topic 8 Message 37 Mon Jan 23, 1995 D.PHELPS1 [Tim Phelps] at 22:26 EST ************ Topic 33 Mon Jan 23, 1995 R.HAMMERSTED at 19:13 EST Sub: HELP WITH NOVATERM I need help to set up NOVATERM 2 message(s) total. ************ ------------ Category 8, Topic 33 Message 1 Mon Jan 23, 1995 R.HAMMERSTED at 19:14 EST MONDAY 1/23 I need help to set up NOVATERM for my C64. Iam using RAMLINK and SWIFTLINK intrrface. I have D/L the docs on NOVATERM but there is so much there I dont know where to start. I have made up a work disk with all the needed files. I have entered the proper setting for SWIFTLINK. What are the script files and how do I set them up. Any help will be appreciated. I am now using WIZARD 64 with GENIE ------------ OK. From what I understand, you have Novaterm reconizing the SwiftLink cartridge but haven't chosen the modem driver. To chose the modem driver, to to the "Terminal params" selection of the Novaterm main menu and press return. Next, you will see a list of options headed by the title, "Terminal parameters." At the top of the list is "Modem type." Press return and scroll down to where it says, "Hayes 38.4k." Press return and then the modem driver will be installed into the program. To see if you've done this right, go into terminal mode. If you do not see a highlighted "C" at the top, then Novaterm is ready to telecommunicate. (By the way, on the second page of the "terminal parameters" menu, you will see the option "Flow control." Press return until you see "RTS/CTS" for best high speed performance. When done with the changes, select "save config file" in the "terminal param" and press return for a permanent configuration of Novaterm. (That is, making the default settings for Novaterm so everytime you load NT you won't have to worry about the settings again.) Script files are those that make your telecomm sessions easier. Recently, I've loaded a few NT GEnie scripts to the libraries. For example, I have a script that when executed signs onto GEnie, goes to the Commodore RT, and then comes into this BB, opens the buffer to capture new messages, closes the buffer, logs off GEnie and then saves the buffer. Before you execute a script file, it must be compiled. To do this, load the text of the script you want to use into NT's Text Editor. Now press the Run- stop key and at the top of the screen you should see the message "Compiling..." which last for about a couple of seconds. Next you will see the line "Object file:" Enter the name of the compiled script that you want to use. For example, I named the script I use to capture new messages from this BB as, "sc.commodore bb." Be sure to have the script as the same disk as your NT program disk. Press return and your script has been saved. Now go back to the Novaterm program. So you won't have to remember the name of the script program each time you want to sign on to GEnie, you might want to go to the autodial menu and type in the name of the script in the appropriate phone book entry (which is accessable from the autodial menu by pressing "f2"; when you do this, cursor down to whre it says script and press return; type in the name of the compiled script). For example, I have a seperate phone book for my GEnie entries (to seperate them from the BBSs I call). One entry I have is Commodore BB. To enter the script name, I press F2 at the Commodore BB entry, scroll down to "script" and type in the name of my compiled script. Some tips: At the C= BB menu, type pro non for no menus and go to the GEnie setup menu and type in 0 and the scroll/page lenght prompt for permanent no scrolling. ------------ Category 8, Topic 8 Message 38 Tue Jan 24, 1995 R.HAMMERSTED (Forwarded) TUES NITE TNX for reply to Topic 33 cat8 I am getting on to setting up the paremeters. However when I go to save the configuration with "SAVE CONFIGURATION" and the exit the menu and shut down I find that the NOVATERM 9.5 will load biut locks up after the first screen appears. It will not display the menu screen. What do you think I might have done wrong? Also I only have a 2400 baud modem. Should I still use the hayes 38.4K driver? TNX for any help. R.HAMMERSTED ------------ Category 8, Topic 8 Message 39 Wed Jan 25, 1995 D.PHELPS1 [Tim Phelps] at 02:16 EST About the lock up, I've heard some other people having the some problem. However, I haven't had this happen to me so I don't know what to say. I'll e- mail Nick and try to get his attention so he can see this and respond to you. :) About the driver, I assume you have your 2400 hooked up to the SwiftLink? [C If so, do you recall if the terminal mode had the highlighted "C" on the status bar? If so, then try, if you can, to see if changing to the Hayes 2400 will work to take the highlighted "C" off. If that still doesn't work, then try the Hayes24inv driver. But this is assuming you have the 38.4k driver installed but the highlighted "C" shows up. By the way, the "C" (which is the forth letter on the status bar from the left) should only be highlighted when you have a carrier present. That is, when you have have made a successful call from your computer to a hoost, such as GEnie, on the other end. ------------ Category 8, Topic 8 Message 40 Wed Jan 25, 1995 R.NEAZER [Reub] at 23:54 EST I also had the problem with Novaterm locking up on the first screen. Don't remember exactly what the problem was, but seem to remember it was with the 'nova data 9.5' file. Just out of curiousity, use a sequential file reader or printer and list that file. Counting from the first entry, which should be '9.5', to the entry just before the modem init string, there should be 47 entries (all numbers). I seem to remember a missing entry...... Reub ------------ 8 |